I'm pretty convinced that posting suggestions for resources on these forums doesn't really have the impact that we think it does. Logos's own recommendation is that we send them in to suggest (at) logos (dot) com. I would say the best way would be to post here first, get lots of supportive feedback from other users, then send an email to suggest (at) logos (dot) com, including a link to the thread here for corroborating evidence that this would be a good resource to add.

And no worries about the duplicate post. If they're not listening to this forum when we post once, posting a second time isn't going to hurt, but it probably won't make any difference either. Send it to suggest (at) logos (dot) com, and see if it has a better reception. I'm sure they get flooded with requests there (and here) and simply haven't got the staffing to handle them all and prioritize the ones we really want. And I'm sure there are other criteria that factor into it as well, such as publisher relationships. But I sure do hope they'll get around to offering these soon!

I'm pretty convinced that posting suggestions for resources on these forums doesn't really have the impact that we think it does. Logos's own recommendation is that we send them in to suggest (at) logos (dot) com. I would say the best way would be to post here first, get lots of supportive feedback from other users, then send an email to suggest (at) logos (dot) com, including a link to the thread here for corroborating evidence that this would be a good resource to add.

Yes good approach. What I'd love to see is a user voice set up solely for the purpose of resources ideas.

Edit Note: Kind of makes you wonder though what the purpose of suggestions group is if Logos is admitting they don't use it as a goto for our suggestions. Is it here just as a kind of group therapy room where we can feel as though someone's heard our pleas.

Edit Note: Kind of makes you wonder though what the purpose of suggestions group is if Logos is admitting they don't use it as a goto for our suggestions. Is it here just as a kind of group therapy room where we can feel as though someone's heard our pleas.

I can't find an initial "Welcome -- this is the purpose of this forum" kind of post on the Suggestions forum. Not that it isn't there, but it might not be on the first page or two of posts as it might have been added to more recently than that. So I don't know what their original vision for it was, or whether it has morphed since then. All I know is that I can't recall ever seeing a Logos employee chime in on any of the threads here, and yet it is one of the most popular forums, with over 11,000 posts. Maybe it is just to make us feel better. Or maybe it was initially conceived as a way for users to make suggestions to other users about how to use Logos better.

If they're not listening to this forum when we post once, posting a second time isn't going to hurt, but it probably won't make any difference either. Send it to suggest (at) logos (dot) com, and see if it has a better reception. I'm sure they get flooded with requests there (and here) and simply haven't got the staffing to handle them all and prioritize the ones we really want. And I'm sure there are other criteria that factor into it as well, such as publisher relationships. But I sure do hope they'll get around to offering these soon!

We're listening!

I'm the guy who gets all the books for Logos Bible Software. I talk to all the publishers and negotiate all of the licensing for every in-copyright book that is included in the software. I've been doing this job since 1997, so I know all the publishers personally. I lurk on these forums nearly every day, and I see all of the book requests. My assistant receives all of the suggest (at) logos (dot) com emails and logs them into spreadsheets by publisher. I see each one of these too. In almost every case, a book suggested in this forum is duplicated by a suggestion made by email. So, nothing is being missed.

When I visit with publishers, they see the spreadsheet data of user book request we receive. So, rest assured, every request is made known to them.

It is most convenient for me if people send requests to the suggest email box. When you send an email there, you'll get a nice polite auto-reply thanking you for your submission. I know that we are all trained to think that an auto-reply means no one actually reads the email. As I've stated, this is not the case. We see them, we record them, and (most importantly) the publisher sees them.

Keep letting me know what you want! I can't promise we'll get your favorite book quickly, but I think our track record shows that eventually it will show up on pre-pub.

I remember you chiming in on the suggestion newsgroups at times over the years. Appreciate you simply can't respond to our requests here... we'd much rather you be out with showing that spreadsheet to publishers.

Bill Nienhuis:

When I visit with publishers, they see the spreadsheet data of user book request we receive. So, rest assured, every request is made known to them.

Hi Bill, It has been more than two years since your helpful post on this thread. Can you tell us if there is any news on whether Kenneth Bailey's books will be available individually or as a Bailey collection? Thanks.