I'll admit, Obama had a rough night, even by his own debate standards. He was calm and cool, but left far too much slide unchallenged. Why? I'm not sure...perhaps it's part of a long-ball strategy? 0_o

That said though, watching Romney flail on HCR was hilarious: I'll repeal evil Obamacare, and have all 50 states setup individual Romneycares, which are designed to function just like Obamacare. The feds can't tell insurers what to do, but all 50 states can. you can't force them to cover people, but I did in my own state.

And his "rely on the market to decide tooffer coverage" schtick is straight out of the Ron Paul book, imo. Insurance firms are in business to make money, and will not go out of their way to cover people unless incentivized to do so by the government. Romneycare proves that point.

MaudlinMutantMollusk:GAT_00: snowjack: But Romney won anyway because "facts don't matter" in debates.

No, Romney won because the President didn't engage.

THIS^

/WTF Obama?//I'm truly baffled

I don't get it at all.What was Obama's goal? I doubt he underestimated Romney but - I admit that I did. Was Obama hoping to juxtapose his calmness to Romney's erratic and rude behavior? Because Romney just trampled our Commander in Chief. Yikes.

The admission directly contradicts the GOP candidate's claim during the debate that "pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan" - a contention Romney has repeated on the trail and that his campaign has repeatedly walked back.

That clause could be appended to 90% of what Romney says.

Tell 'em what they wanna hear, then have some nobody staffer correct you when even fewer people are paying attention. Lies on page A1, retractions/correction on F14 two days later.

And this round definitely goes to Romney. I doubt he moved anyone out of Obama's camp, but he probably picked up some undecideds. Hard to guesstimate how many, though, since anyone who is still undecided defies all logic.

logistic:GAT_00: snowjack: But Romney won anyway because "facts don't matter" in debates.

No, Romney won because the President didn't engage.

This.

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I SAID ENGAGE biatch DO YOU NEED A DICTIONARY

One of the things I've always bemoaned about this president is that he doesn't seem to get that Republicans are simply not going to play fair with him.

He went into this looking as if he expected Mitt Romney to be honest and own the crazy shiat he's been saying for the last 18 months. He looked as if he expected the debate to be a discussion of ideas. Bad plan.

It took Mr. Obama a loooong time to figure out what the Republicans in Congress were really about. I hope it doesn't take him as long to figure out Mr. Romney.

Romney did do a bunch of contradictions and BS. Already the PBS thing is just firestorming through the Internet. It was something he shouldn't have even said and it just showed him off as a dick in comparison to boring Obama.