Didn’t the U.S. make its own sex tapes of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib?

Some of our proud soldiers basically turned the prison into an gay S&M porn studio by tying men up in their underwear, having them simulate gay sex acts together, and forcing them to masturbate in front of one another. What could have been a hot setup for a Raging Stallions DVD ended up being used to torture men by violating their Islamic beliefs. I know the CIA couldn’t give a fuck about gay people or gay soldiers, but using same-sex sex (albeit pedophilic) as a way to humiliate a political leader only further highlights the homophobic Western military culture that breeds such attitudes. Remember: Once our gay antics at Abu Ghraib came to light, it only made the rest of the world really pissed off at us acting like homophobic fratboys.

If the army had more understanding of local culture, the video would have been of Saddam Hussein having sex with a grown man. That’s far more shocking to Arabs than having sex with a 16-year-old boy.

May 25, 2010 at 9:29 pm · @Reply ·

concernedcitizen

Obviously the bigger problem is the overwhelming homogenous composition of the military in particular higher level general schedule grade positions. It allows for this kind of linear thinking that is negligent of the inherent consequences.
This isn’t to say simple the problem is that DADT should be repealed although it most certainly should be, but that their need to be more “voices” in higher level position be it through the representation of women, minorities and miscellaneous others who could bring alternate ideas and add to the discussion within high ranking military officials.
Now let me attempt to speak with CRYSTALLINE clarity my attack is not on WHITE MALES but on homogeneity of ANY group… I would have the same criticism of an all black plutocracy or all GAY my point is there should always be a plethora of viewpoints this usually (not always) leads to the best solution or at least a situation in which more viewpoints are considered!!!!

May 25, 2010 at 10:37 pm · @Reply ·

Speck

Didn’t they do the same thing after Yassar Arafat’s death? Spread rumors that he died of AIDS, etc.

May 25, 2010 at 10:52 pm · @Reply ·

Henry Holland

Maybe the CIA should have thought about what they were unleashing in all the years they supported Sa-damn/helped him stay in power until he got inconvenient. Donald Rumsfeld wasn’t photographed shaking his hand because he ran in to Sa-damn in a restaurant.

remember the sultans? they had sex with kids all the time and it was OK. so if a leader like saddam would do it, it would probably seen as an instrument of power.

and: queerty, who told you saddam was hated in iraq? last time i checked people wanted the americans out of their country and a new saddam. imagine this: you have a civilized country, with universities, restaurants, shops, highways and wealth… all of a sudden this army comes and starting the next day there’s a bombing every day. hmm… let’s see – what do i choose?

May 26, 2010 at 2:58 am · @Reply ·

ossurworld

Ah, your government at work. I feel safer now.

May 26, 2010 at 7:46 am · @Reply ·

PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS

If you remember a thread a few weeks ago, in many of these “cultures” it is perfectley acceptable for a grown man to diddle a boy. Their so called “parents” actually barter the kids for goods. The Sadam Sodomy Series may have actually bolstered his standing………………….

May 26, 2010 at 8:57 am · @Reply ·

Robert, NYC

This only proves that homophobia is rampant in the CIA using the gay angle to smear a foreign leader, rogue or otherwise. Why would it think the middle east would have reacted to it, wasn’t Mohammed a pedophile?

No 6, Donkeytrot69….pedophilia is with pre-pubescent children,usually under 11, 11-14 year olds is termed as hebephilia (pubescent), 15 and up into adulthood is ephebophilia (post pubescent).

May 26, 2010 at 1:42 pm · @Reply ·

Robert, NYC

This only proves that homophobia is rampant in the CIA using the gay angle to smear a foreign leader, rogue or otherwise. Why would it think the middle east would have reacted to it, wasn’t Mohammed a pedophile?

No 6, Donkeytrot69….pedophilia is with pre-pubescent children,usually under 11, 11-14 year olds is termed as hebephilia (pubescent), 15 to 19 is ephebophilia (post pubescent).

May 26, 2010 at 1:43 pm · @Reply ·

PopSnap

Uh, am I the only one who is a bit concerned about the CIA- our major international spying arm- being ready & willing to have somebody rape a boy for the sake of an intelligence operation?

Please someone tell me I’m not the only one who is disturbed by this? Please, human race?

May 26, 2010 at 3:09 pm · @Reply ·

Brian

@PopSnap: That certainly was the first thing that came to my mind when reading the story, and was surprised as I scrolled through the comments that this didn’t seem to be an issue for anyone. The Washington Post blog didn’t mention this as an issue either, just the cost of producing the tape and the supposed “cultural differences” in the Middle East as reasons it didn’t go ahead. Very strange.

May 26, 2010 at 10:05 pm · @Reply ·

Menlo

Instead, they spent all their resources coming up with that wacky mobile germ warfare lab story. Those crazy kids.

@Ted C.: If the army wasn’t discharging gay interpreters, it may’ve understood the culture a little more. But then I assume that’s what you were already implying with your post. heh

May 27, 2010 at 12:09 am · @Reply ·

Leroy

@PopSnap & @Brian: Honestly I don’t think most people processed the story that much to even think about it in that manner. It was the first thing that popped into my mind. I mean how were they think about going through with it? Having some guy rape a child or have sex with a eighteen/nineteen year old who still looks like a child? At the end of the day it doesn’t matter how they were going to carryout this act, too even entertain this idea I find sick.