Re: JESUS is the SON of GOD.....NOT just a prophet or a great teacher.....

Quick Question for anyone (SERIOUS) answers only.

Suppose that all the Bibles of the world were to disappear, gone, vanished etc... Would true Christians be able to put it back into text form so that future generations can learn from it etc?

If yes, how will this be done,,,since no copies of written bibles are left....please advise.

JUST Saw the film "BOOK OF ELI"...very interesting thought here.

Looking forward to your responses

Peace be with you all.

Regards

Quoting: Truth 1307494

Here's the thing.. I know many Masons and I know many people that attend Church every single Sunday.. I talk with them on a regular basis.. I am not a church going person.. I am a believer of Christ.. And yet, when I quote scriptures from THEIR OWN Bible, they have to look it up for themselves.. And then when they do, they will look up 13 other scriptures to try and debunk the scripture I used to discredit their book..

It's a never ending battle.. So eventually one just says, "Fuck 'em" Let God sort them out..

Re: JESUS is the SON of GOD.....NOT just a prophet or a great teacher.....

Can someone explain this to me?

Psalm 137:9"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones."

Or this"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. She must be quiet." (1 Timothy 2:12)

(I dont see the women on here being quiet and listening because they try to teach as they see the bible. Which judging from many responses they dont understand much)

I believe in God. However... After years of bible stufy the contradictions are tugging at my mind. (and dont say its the devil.) As in, we are told we will be told we will be judged by our works. Yet, all through out the bible we are also told we will be judged by the works of our fathers.

The death of Judas. The Matthew version does not add up to the Acts version.

John 15:15For all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.

Then, shortly after we read:

John 16:12I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

Are beleivers supposed to fallow OT or not?

Malachi 4:4Remember ye the law of Moses.

Luke 16:17It is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

Re: JESUS is the SON of GOD.....NOT just a prophet or a great teacher.....

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true believers in Yeshua know that it is about a personal relationship with HIM....not a building made by human hands.

Quoting: AmazingGRACE

Then you should know that he is not returning. He is already here.. The second coming is MAN STANDING UP TO TYRANNY! The exact thing you see happening all across the globe.. How many Kings have fallen in the last 2 years?

HUMANITY is the spirit of Christ.. Humanity will RISE UP against the establishment.. All forms of control will be destroyed.

I AM CHRIST!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11229871

Big difference between Christ lives in me and I am Christ.Something about humility.

Quoting: Kirk

Well, Dear, facts speak for themselves.. And fact is, I AM Christ.. As are all of his TRUE followers.

Re: JESUS is the SON of GOD.....NOT just a prophet or a great teacher.....

Can someone explain this to me?

Psalm 137:9"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones."

Or this"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. She must be quiet." (1 Timothy 2:12)

(I dont see the women on here being quiet and listening because they try to teach as they see the bible. Which judging from many responses they dont understand much)

I believe in God. However... After years of bible stufy the contradictions are tugging at my mind. (and dont say its the devil.) As in, we are told we will be told we will be judged by our works. Yet, all through out the bible we are also told we will be judged by the works of our fathers.

The death of Judas. The Matthew version does not add up to the Acts version.

John 15:15For all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.

Then, shortly after we read:

John 16:12I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

Are beleivers supposed to fallow OT or not?

Malachi 4:4Remember ye the law of Moses.

Luke 16:17It is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

Galatians 3:13Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law.

I could go on and on really.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10903872

yes, that is quite easy to answer....

you are looking and trying to understand the WORD in the flesh because you're born just once....in the physical.

the WORD becomes unlocked to HIS believers who have been BORN AGAIN a second time....with GOD's SPIRIT

It is GOD's SPIRIT that will unlock the Scriptures not you yourself.

The WORD holds mysteries of the LORD. That is why JESUS talked in parables.

It is only for those who have ears to hear and eyes to see.

"And He said, "To you it has been given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest [it is given] in parables, that 'Seeing they may not see, And hearing they may not understand"

Luke 8:10

"Let a man so consider us, as servants of Christ and stewards of the mysteries of God."

Re: JESUS is the SON of GOD.....NOT just a prophet or a great teacher.....

Fucking Christards can't even agree on the basics. So what do you do? You interpret it in a way that suits you and you particular merry band of assholes. It's SOOOOO fucking apparent it's all made up bullshit. So 5000 years from now, will there still be religy-tards saying, "OOOOH the time is near? Jesus will be here really soon now.

Re: JESUS is the SON of GOD.....NOT just a prophet or a great teacher.....

Can someone explain this to me?

Psalm 137:9"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones."

Or this"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. She must be quiet." (1 Timothy 2:12)

(I dont see the women on here being quiet and listening because they try to teach as they see the bible. Which judging from many responses they dont understand much)

I believe in God. However... After years of bible stufy the contradictions are tugging at my mind. (and dont say its the devil.) As in, we are told we will be told we will be judged by our works. Yet, all through out the bible we are also told we will be judged by the works of our fathers.

The death of Judas. The Matthew version does not add up to the Acts version.

John 15:15For all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.

Then, shortly after we read:

John 16:12I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

Are beleivers supposed to fallow OT or not?

Malachi 4:4Remember ye the law of Moses.

Luke 16:17It is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

Galatians 3:13Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law.

I could go on and on really.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10903872

Jesus is from the order of Melchizedek: UNBLOODY SACRIFICES. He was sacrificed by the Levitical law unlawfully: no human sacrifices allowed. Yet they would not listen to Moses, the prophets, the Messiah.

The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John. Since that time, the good news of the kingdom of God is being preached, and everyone is forcing his way into it. Luke 16:16

Re: JESUS is the SON of GOD.....NOT just a prophet or a great teacher.....

Funny thing is that Religious folks think that Jesus never cursed.. They think that he never had sex.. They think that he was this boring asshole who had no life..

NO, WRONG!

Jesus was/is a Rebel who lives/lived against the systems of control set into place by the Kings who ruled them.. Any person today that resists the Tyrannical Kings is the spirit of JESUS! Any of you who can actually see through the controlling mechanisms of organized religion are the spirit Jesus!

Re: JESUS is the SON of GOD.....NOT just a prophet or a great teacher.....

Fucking Christards can't even agree on the basics. So what do you do? You interpret it in a way that suits you and you particular merry band of assholes. It's SOOOOO fucking apparent it's all made up bullshit. So 5000 years from now, will there still be religy-tards saying, "OOOOH the time is near? Jesus will be here really soon now.

Quoting: HangDawg

Your belligerent faith is made up you must have taken from the teevee. History confirms the biblical account, whether everyone agrees on the details of what is written or not.

Re: JESUS is the SON of GOD.....NOT just a prophet or a great teacher.....

I have a thought that Jesus was biologically speaking the son on the creator & that Mary was artificially inseminated with Jesus who was an alien hy-bred. I think the creator/God had to send someone to Earth to direct us or guide us & also someone who would be physically accepted as human or human in form. I mean with mindset of the religious nuts back in those days how long would Jesus has been alive if he arrived to us with 3 fingers on each hand and features like a grey alien? The miracles reportedly performed by Jesus I think were just advanced sciences that we are only now understanding how they were done.

Jesus stated he was not of this world, I believe that he also has a home-world/planet that is millions or billions of years more advanced. He did ascend and descend in beams of light like so many ppl who have been abducted by greys have recalled. The bible story of Jacobs ladder tells of how Jacob actually saw a real ladder with him with little understanding called "angels" climbing up and down on into a floating cloud, sound like aliens going up into a ship to me. Then we have Ezekiel who described in detail seeing UFO's and floating platforms with bright lights and fire.

So to someone who is technically behind like the ppl in the biblical tales trying to describe ppl coming down looking like they are flying or making things levitate would appear that only a divine person could do, today we know science can do all of those things.

A race billions of years more advanced than us has visited us and started life here on this planet. The Vatican has known this and spent millions on telescopes to see it's return. I hope that when Jesus returns we won't be shocked if he doesn't look like all the paintings we projected him to be.. The world needs to open it's mind and not take the bible literally.

Re: JESUS is the SON of GOD.....NOT just a prophet or a great teacher.....

Funny thing is that Religious folks think that Jesus never cursed.. They think that he never had sex.. They think that he was this boring asshole who had no life..

NO, WRONG!

Jesus was/is a Rebel who lives/lived against the systems of control set into place by the Kings who ruled them.. Any person today that resists the Tyrannical Kings is the spirit of JESUS! Any of you who can actually see through the controlling mechanisms of organized religion are the spirit Jesus!

Re: JESUS is the SON of GOD.....NOT just a prophet or a great teacher.....

I have a thought that Jesus was biologically speaking the son on the creator & that Mary was artificially inseminated with Jesus who was an alien hy-bred. I think the creator/God had to send someone to Earth to direct us or guide us & also someone who would be physically accepted as human or human in form. I mean with mindset of the religious nuts back in those days how long would Jesus has been alive if he arrived to us with 3 fingers on each hand and features like a grey alien? The miracles reportedly performed by Jesus I think were just advanced sciences that we are only now understanding how they were done.

Jesus stated he was not of this world, I believe that he also has a home-world/planet that is millions or billions of years more advanced. He did ascend and descend in beams of light like so many ppl who have been abducted by greys have recalled. The bible story of Jacobs ladder tells of how Jacob actually saw a real ladder with him with little understanding called "angels" climbing up and down on into a floating cloud, sound like aliens going up into a ship to me. Then we have Ezekiel who described in detail seeing UFO's and floating platforms with bright lights and fire.

So to someone who is technically behind like the ppl in the biblical tales trying to describe ppl coming down looking like they are flying or making things levitate would appear that only a divine person could do, today we know science can do all of those things.

A race billions of years more advanced than us has visited us and started life here on this planet. The Vatican has known this and spent millions on telescopes to see it's return. I hope that when Jesus returns we won't be shocked if he doesn't look like all the paintings we projected him to be.. The world needs to open it's mind and not take the bible literally.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 894510

cry out to JESUS and ask for HIS mercy and to be born of HIS SPIRIT....then you will KNOW THE TRUTH.... and the Scriptures will become unlocked for you.

Re: JESUS is the SON of GOD.....NOT just a prophet or a great teacher.....

Fucking Christards can't even agree on the basics. So what do you do? You interpret it in a way that suits you and you particular merry band of assholes. It's SOOOOO fucking apparent it's all made up bullshit. So 5000 years from now, will there still be religy-tards saying, "OOOOH the time is near? Jesus will be here really soon now.

Quoting: HangDawg

Your belligerent faith is made up you must have taken from the teevee. History confirms the biblical account, whether everyone agrees on the details of what is written or not.

Re: JESUS is the SON of GOD.....NOT just a prophet or a great teacher.....

I have a thought that Jesus was biologically speaking the son on the creator & that Mary was artificially inseminated with Jesus who was an alien hy-bred. I think the creator/God had to send someone to Earth to direct us or guide us & also someone who would be physically accepted as human or human in form. I mean with mindset of the religious nuts back in those days how long would Jesus has been alive if he arrived to us with 3 fingers on each hand and features like a grey alien? The miracles reportedly performed by Jesus I think were just advanced sciences that we are only now understanding how they were done.

Jesus stated he was not of this world, I believe that he also has a home-world/planet that is millions or billions of years more advanced. He did ascend and descend in beams of light like so many ppl who have been abducted by greys have recalled. The bible story of Jacobs ladder tells of how Jacob actually saw a real ladder with him with little understanding called "angels" climbing up and down on into a floating cloud, sound like aliens going up into a ship to me. Then we have Ezekiel who described in detail seeing UFO's and floating platforms with bright lights and fire.

So to someone who is technically behind like the ppl in the biblical tales trying to describe ppl coming down looking like they are flying or making things levitate would appear that only a divine person could do, today we know science can do all of those things.

A race billions of years more advanced than us has visited us and started life here on this planet. The Vatican has known this and spent millions on telescopes to see it's return. I hope that when Jesus returns we won't be shocked if he doesn't look like all the paintings we projected him to be.. The world needs to open it's mind and not take the bible literally.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 894510

cry out to JESUS and ask for HIS mercy and to be born of HIS SPIRIT....then you will KNOW THE TRUTH.... and the Scriptures will become unlocked for you.

Quoting: AmazingGRACE

I have unlocked the bible to my understanding. Can you be specific as to why my interpretation is incorrect or why your interpretation is correct?..

Re: JESUS is the SON of GOD.....NOT just a prophet or a great teacher.....

I have a thought that Jesus was biologically speaking the son on the creator & that Mary was artificially inseminated with Jesus who was an alien hy-bred. I think the creator/God had to send someone to Earth to direct us or guide us & also someone who would be physically accepted as human or human in form. I mean with mindset of the religious nuts back in those days how long would Jesus has been alive if he arrived to us with 3 fingers on each hand and features like a grey alien? The miracles reportedly performed by Jesus I think were just advanced sciences that we are only now understanding how they were done.

Jesus stated he was not of this world, I believe that he also has a home-world/planet that is millions or billions of years more advanced. He did ascend and descend in beams of light like so many ppl who have been abducted by greys have recalled. The bible story of Jacobs ladder tells of how Jacob actually saw a real ladder with him with little understanding called "angels" climbing up and down on into a floating cloud, sound like aliens going up into a ship to me. Then we have Ezekiel who described in detail seeing UFO's and floating platforms with bright lights and fire.

So to someone who is technically behind like the ppl in the biblical tales trying to describe ppl coming down looking like they are flying or making things levitate would appear that only a divine person could do, today we know science can do all of those things.

A race billions of years more advanced than us has visited us and started life here on this planet. The Vatican has known this and spent millions on telescopes to see it's return. I hope that when Jesus returns we won't be shocked if he doesn't look like all the paintings we projected him to be.. The world needs to open it's mind and not take the bible literally.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 894510

cry out to JESUS and ask for HIS mercy and to be born of HIS SPIRIT....then you will KNOW THE TRUTH.... and the Scriptures will become unlocked for you.

Quoting: AmazingGRACE

I did cry out to Jesus and he told me the truth. He said he was an alien here to teach us of the universe but we killed him and he's not coming back. This is the truth as told to me by Jesus. Amen

Re: JESUS is the SON of GOD.....NOT just a prophet or a great teacher.....

I have a thought that Jesus was biologically speaking the son on the creator & that Mary was artificially inseminated with Jesus who was an alien hy-bred. I think the creator/God had to send someone to Earth to direct us or guide us & also someone who would be physically accepted as human or human in form. I mean with mindset of the religious nuts back in those days how long would Jesus has been alive if he arrived to us with 3 fingers on each hand and features like a grey alien? The miracles reportedly performed by Jesus I think were just advanced sciences that we are only now understanding how they were done.

Jesus stated he was not of this world, I believe that he also has a home-world/planet that is millions or billions of years more advanced. He did ascend and descend in beams of light like so many ppl who have been abducted by greys have recalled. The bible story of Jacobs ladder tells of how Jacob actually saw a real ladder with him with little understanding called "angels" climbing up and down on into a floating cloud, sound like aliens going up into a ship to me. Then we have Ezekiel who described in detail seeing UFO's and floating platforms with bright lights and fire.

So to someone who is technically behind like the ppl in the biblical tales trying to describe ppl coming down looking like they are flying or making things levitate would appear that only a divine person could do, today we know science can do all of those things.

A race billions of years more advanced than us has visited us and started life here on this planet. The Vatican has known this and spent millions on telescopes to see it's return. I hope that when Jesus returns we won't be shocked if he doesn't look like all the paintings we projected him to be.. The world needs to open it's mind and not take the bible literally.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 894510

cry out to JESUS and ask for HIS mercy and to be born of HIS SPIRIT....then you will KNOW THE TRUTH.... and the Scriptures will become unlocked for you.

Quoting: AmazingGRACE

I did cry out to Jesus and he told me the truth. He said he was an alien here to teach us of the universe but we killed him and he's not coming back. This is the truth as told to me by Jesus. Amen

Re: JESUS is the SON of GOD.....NOT just a prophet or a great teacher.....

Fucking Christards can't even agree on the basics. So what do you do? You interpret it in a way that suits you and you particular merry band of assholes. It's SOOOOO fucking apparent it's all made up bullshit. So 5000 years from now, will there still be religy-tards saying, "OOOOH the time is near? Jesus will be here really soon now.

Quoting: HangDawg

Your belligerent faith is made up you must have taken from the teevee. History confirms the biblical account, whether everyone agrees on the details of what is written or not.

Re: JESUS is the SON of GOD.....NOT just a prophet or a great teacher.....

HE will be coming back in great glory and every eye will see....

"For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. "

Matthew 24:27

Then they all said, "Are You then the Son of God?" So He said to them, "You rightly say that I am."

Luke 22:70

"Whenever the evil spirits saw him, they fell down before him and cried out, "You are the Son of God."

Mark 3:11

"When Jesus heard [that], He said, "This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God may be glorified through it."

John 11:4

"Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."

Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed [this] to you, but My Father who is in heaven"

Mat. 16:16-17

Quoting: AmazingGRACE

Nope. Jesus is a son of God. Just like we can become sons and daughters of God. No different. Your bibles have been doctored and rewritten by the religious powers that be.

Why would Jesus say :

17 Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

John 20: 10-18 NIV

Let's take the words of Jesus Himself. John 14:12

12Verily, verily I say unto you, he that believeth in Me, the works that I do he shall do also; and greater works than these shall he do, because I go unto My Father.

This very clearly states that those of us that believe in Jesus, will be able to do the works/miracles that He did and greater. There is no way to disagree with these words of Jesus. This being the case, there is no way Jesus could have been the only Son of God, or part of the Trinity.

As Jesus himself said, we would be able to do greater works then he did. That cannot be possible if Jesus is God, as that means we would be able to do greater works then God.

The only conclusion any rational human being can make is:1)Jesus is not God2)Jesus actually never said these words, but maybe somebody added them to the bible3) the translation got screwed up

My own research proved that neither 2 or 3 is a possibility, as cross referencing all other bible passages confirms that Jesus actually did say these words.

My personal belief is that Jesus came down to earth to show us how to achieve Christhood or the Christ consciousness.

People are more than happy to accept the idea that Jesus Christ was the only son of God. Why is this so? Because this gives them the ultimate excuse for continuing their lifestyle. If Jesus was the only son of God, then they could not possibly follow in his footsteps. Therefore, they could do nothing to work out their own salvation. They simply had to wait for the outer savior, Jesus, to come and save them.

If Jesus was an example to follow, then people might have a responsibility to follow Him. In other words, if they had the potential to become Christed beings, and if doing so would require them to make an effort, they would have to change their ways.

Do you see how the idea that Jesus was the only son of God can become the ultimate excuse which gives people the perfect justification for continuing in their ways?

I pray that all Christians come to an understanding of the true purpose of Jesus' teachings: to tell us and show us how to achieve a state of Christhood in this current life stream. Namaste!

Quoting: ATONTRUTH

Interesting idea, and I appreciate all the research you have done too.

About this verse:

12Verily, verily I say unto you, he that believeth in Me, the works that I do he shall do also; and greater works than these shall he do, because I go unto My Father.

I have always thought that this verse pertained to miracles we may be able to do in the afterlife.