Give or take a few games because of injury, the Lions have had just two full-time kickers in the past 33 seasons - Eddie Murray 1980-91, then Hanson 1992-2012. Some teams have had more than that in one season.

I'd love to see us bring in woodson on a one year deal. He'd be able to compete with bentley and the other CBs for the spot across from Houston, He'd make a solid nickel CB, and could play safety if/when delmas gets hurt.

KVB for the minimum would be interesting. Hadn't really thought about it, but it might be worth a shot. He's still a good leader and while he got exposed last year, he might not in limited snaps. Same for Woodson, would like that move even more.

Good signing with Akers. Hopefully he gets healthy and returns to form, not like last year. I agree with bringing in a rookie to compete.

I was really hoping that they would sign him. Hopefully he can be a long term replacement for Jason Hanson.

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I don't get why they love Bartell so much. But they are pissed at the back 7 of the defense. They have been terrible in preseason. Carved up by Sanchez and Weeden.

They weren't really playing press or zone. Sanchez didn't carve the Lions up until Quin, Tulloch, Levy and Houston were off the field. It's not good but it's far from the end of times for this secondary. Plus Slay should play more over Bartell. We'll see on Delmas. Hope is low for that one though.

Carey/Quin/Bentley can play better. For Bentely they have Mathis at least now. Quin should step it up. Carey played well the last 5 last year, one preseason game coverage shouldn't define him. Weeden lit up the rams with Finnegan and Jenkins