From what I've seen so far, it's just Windows 7 with a giant windows phone panel that you can bring up.

[QUOTE=gparent;31125603]It's "terrible". Not "terribles". As in, "Ta grammaire est terrible."
And IE9 isn't that bad now![/QUOTE]
IE10 makes IE9 look bad though. Even if IE10's only on PP2.
Speaking of the Touch UI, I think it's best to use it before you make an opinion. It's the same as a desktop icon, only much larger with more information which is live. When I look at all the programs I use, very few I would actually need the old desktop. To launch a game, I could do it directly via the new UI. To browse the web, the same. WLM, Skype, etc I'm sure will have support for the new UI which I could use it there as well.
People keep complaining about the fact it's just a phone OS UI because all they're doing is seeing some screenshots. However if you look at it as a chrome-less desktop with more information, then it really seems to me that this UI could be amazing. Of course it would take a little time getting used to it, but that's true with any change like that.

I do have a feeling Windows 8 changelist will consist of this:
Changes to kernel: 5
Changes to UI: 4563

[QUOTE=Tobba;31127999]I do have a feeling Windows 8 changelist will consist of this:
Changes to kernel: 5
Changes to UI: 4563[/QUOTE]
I'm hoping that sense there's multiple groups working on Windows, MSX is working on the UI and another group is going through and doing what they did in Windows 7.

[QUOTE=Panda X;31127865]IE10 makes IE9 look bad though. Even if IE10's only on PP2.
Speaking of the Touch UI, I think it's best to use it before you make an opinion. It's the same as a desktop icon, only much larger with more information which is live. When I look at all the programs I use, very few I would actually need the old desktop. To launch a game, I could do it directly via the new UI. To browse the web, the same. WLM, Skype, etc I'm sure will have support for the new UI which I could use it there as well.[/QUOTE]
I don't even use the desktop. I just have shortcuts in my quick launch start menu. They could change it to a massive dildo that does Soulja Boy's Superman and I probably wouldn't notice.

[QUOTE=matt54;31084656]This is what happens when gates retires. Fuck.[/QUOTE]
He stepped down as CEO 11 years ago

[QUOTE=Sergeant Turtle;31142392]He stepped down as CEO 11 years ago[/QUOTE]
Also known as around the year of 2007.

[QUOTE=Wikipedia]Gates stepped down as chief executive officer of Microsoft in January 2000. He remained as chairman and created the position of chief software architect[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates[/url]

[QUOTE=Sergeant Turtle;31151728][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates[/url][/QUOTE]
I like how you conveniently ignored the part about how he still worked full time at Microsoft until, guess when, June 2006. Funnily enough Vista gets released a few months later :D

[QUOTE=gparent;31156453]I like how you conveniently ignored the part about how he still worked full time at Microsoft until, guess when, June 2006. Funnily enough Vista gets released a few months later :D[/QUOTE]
funnily enough vista was in the works for far more than a few months

[QUOTE=Van-man;30872365]The current UI in Windows 7 is fine goddammit, now deliver that revolutionary filesystem you keep on postponing :argh:[/QUOTE]
I wish they'd just add support for Ext4, Btrfs, or XFS or something so I can actually use my external hard drive in Windows.
[editline]16th July 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=photonManipul8r;30872579]It's all about what it looks like nowadays, it seems. :|
Need to be smooth, in design, but not in the core aspect!
(sarcasm obviously)[/QUOTE]
Yeah they keep on changing the UI, but the underlying ugliness of Windows stays mostly the same.
For Windows 9 they should just switch to a Unix core like OS X rather than pushing Win32/Win64

When I read the title: Hmmm, SMD, what kind of a feature is that...?

[QUOTE=Lazor;31159803]funnily enough vista was in the works for far more than a few months[/QUOTE]
And guess when most of the testing happens?

[QUOTE=gparent;31174967]And guess when most of the testing happens?[/QUOTE]
You can't blame Vista not being flawless on release because of Bill Gates not working full time. Bill Gates probably haven't much to do with the tiresome work of bug-testing.

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;31175383]You can't blame Vista not being flawless on release because of Bill Gates not working full time. Bill Gates probably haven't much to do with the tiresome work of bug-testing.[/QUOTE]
News flash: Gates didnt do anything on vista except green lighting things. Ballmer is doing the same thing.

Ray Ozzie (Chief Software Architect) and Jim Allchin (Co-President of Platform Products and Services Group) were the top people during Vista. Both of which are no longer at Microsoft (retired). Jim left the day Vista released, Ray Dec 31st of last year.
Either way you can't blame who ever's at the top. Jim bashed Vista prior to the reset (which lead to the reset most likely)
"I am not sure how the company lost sight of what matters to our customers (both business and home) the most, but in my view we lost our way. I think our teams lost sight of what bug-free means, what resilience means, what full scenarios mean, what security means, what performance means, how important current applications are, and really understanding what the most important problems [our] customers face are. I see lots of random features and some great vision, but that doesn&#8217;t translate into great products.
I would buy a Mac today if I was not working at Microsoft. ... Apple did not lose their way. ..."
No one person is to blame for Vista.

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;31175383]You can't blame Vista not being flawless on release because of Bill Gates not working full time. Bill Gates probably haven't much to do with the tiresome work of bug-testing.[/QUOTE]
I'm not blaming anyone, I'm sure it's a team effort. I just thought it was funny.