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Another way of comparing the milk subsidy/farm bill is through real estate taxes. Even if you do not have any kids in school you are subsidizing those who do because the greatest portion of your property taxes go to the schools.

Yep, husband was reading our county tax statement to me a few days back. Most of the money went to schools.

County General ( a little over 10% of total )
4 Mill
School General ( almost half of total, about 46% )
School Building
School Sinking ( a sizable amount also when compared to other things )
Voc Tech
Voc Building

charly

"To become competent in governing others, we must first learn to govern ourselves"
Waite Phillips

Foreign countries have bought up a lot of the maga mike producing farms. The expiration of the farm bill would have put the smaller farmers on more of a level playing field. This is because instead of their prices being fixed at a certain dollar per hundred pounds. It would be a little more like corn, wheat and soybeans. Farmers in my area this year made more, on a profit basis per acre, which they was able to turn into farm insurance at 3 to 7 bushel a acre on corn then on acreage they had a average of 150 bushel. It is call farming by mail.

What a clasic example of what can happen when the gov. regulates the market if the name of HELPING. It has so distorted the market for milk that if it suddenly removed influence, the price doubles. Gov. milk policy was initiated in the 1930's when farmers literally poured milk on the ground because of the low price. Today we have futures markets which gives producers a good idea of what they can get for their product and an idea of what their cost will be. A capitalist system that better allocates the means of production and produces products at the best possible price. A system much better than the old style Soviet 5 year programs with central planning. A system run by people that think they are smarter than the market. The fact is THEY ARE NOT SMARTER, and that makes them idiots.

Good discussion points from all, but let's be clear,Government representatives never truly try to help or do good, they only dowhatever they think will get them votes....follow the money back to where it isbeing sent and you will always find the true incentive of our electedofficials, be it Unions, Welfare recipients, etc.

At the heart of any society that is 'failing' or has failed, is corruptGovernments

Good discussion points from all, but let's be clear,Government representatives never truly try to help or do good, they only dowhatever they think will get them votes....follow the money back to where it isbeing sent and you will always find the true incentive of our electedofficials, be it Unions, Welfare recipients, etc.

At the heart of any society that is 'failing' or has failed, is corruptGovernments

I could not agree more. The more the gov. does, the more corrupt both the gov. and society becomes.