Looks pretty dead compared to the Hong Kong show. Are shows in mainland China dying a slow death like those in the US.

I apologize for the photo. Here is another that reflects the attendance better. It was not as crowded as the Hong Kong Show - which is half watches, by the way. China's customs duties are stiff enough to discourage foreign dealers from attending so that limits what kind of material is available. However, it doesn't keep Chinese collectors away and my experience is that recent shows in China were pretty well attended, or at least no worse than in many prior years. The average age of the attendees is also much lower than in the USA.

Of course, nothing matches the 2011 Beijing BICE where a milling crowd practically fought to get in and the line for ticket holders was hundreds deep, but that was near a major market peak. Arif, I suspect that you may have omitted a question mark and are actually asking about Chinese shows instead of making a statement. What do other people think? Can other Forum members can share their impressions? This could be a very worthwhile discussion. Thanks in advance to all.

Hi Peter, just note that there will be an "Inaugural Hong Kong Coin Show" in Aug this year (http://www.hongkongcoinshow.com/) - do you know how's this different from the usual one in Aug?

It's a new show that, I think, is connected to Stacks-Bowers. I heard that response from dealers is excellent and I look forward to attending. I may even share a table there with someone well-known. For me it will be part of a new China Pricepedia promotion, not to buy or sell coins.

You are correct I was asking the question, not making a statement. I have never attended a mainland show for the very reasons you mentioned and probably never will. Hong Kong is the ideal venue for commerce and you don't have to worry about customs arbitrarily taking your coins away or holding them ransom until you pay some duty.

It is nice to see young (under 50) attend the shows in China.

Agree with you R3 the US shows are a waste of time, I rarely bring any inventory to display and anything good is almost always sold before the show starts. I no longer view shows as a marketplace to do business, but rather socialize with dealer and collectors. Online auctions will take over the industry in the next 20 years, if it hasn't already.

It's a new show that, I think, is connected to Stacks-Bowers. I heard that response from dealers is excellent and I look forward to attending. I may even share a table there with someone well-known. For me it will be part of a new China Pricepedia promotion, not to buy or sell coins.

As the global ecnomic is not so good now, China numismatic is also not so good for 5 years. This is why I and team found Shouxi.com, and we also found China International Coin Expo in Macau 2014, Beijing and Guangzhou 2015, and HKCS 2016.

I think this industry can not be called industry in China, because every round is seperated, so we need build pladform to connect all parties together to do something. This is Shouxi's oportunity, a online and offline can be benifit this market, and also we will get the business model.

Back to your question, I believe China numismatic will wake up from modern coins, because all banks sell Panda gold coins, it means we can find more buyers in the future, even a small percent is also big number for us. How do you think?

As the global ecnomic is not so good now, China numismatic is also not so good for 5 years. This is why I and team found Shouxi.com, and we also found China International Coin Expo in Macau 2014, Beijing and Guangzhou 2015, and HKCS 2016.

I think this industry can not be called industry in China, because every round is seperated, so we need build pladform to connect all parties together to do something. This is Shouxi's oportunity, a online and offline can be benifit this market, and also we will get the business model.

Back to your question, I believe China numismatic will wake up from modern coins, because all banks sell Panda gold coins, it means we can find more buyers in the future, even a small percent is also big number for us. How do you think?

Oversea Chinese coin collectors and investors are always trying to figure out what is happening in China with respect to collection of similar coins. This is because of the belief that numismatic activity in China influences activities elsewhere.

Right now valuation of pre-2010 gold panda coins is rapidly rising in USA and Europe, ostensibly due to demands from panda coin set builders in China.

Hopefully you can logon from time to time to give us a first hand account of what is happening in China.

Thank you, now just Chinese version, but we can lauch a English version bbs column if a lot of friends need. Maybe it is a bridge between estern and western dealers and collectors. We just help Dennis finished the registration.

Oversea Chinese coin collectors and investors are always trying to figure out what is happening in China with respect to collection of similar coins. This is because of the belief that numismatic activity in China influences activities elsewhere.

Right now valuation of pre-2010 gold panda coins is rapidly rising in USA and Europe, ostensibly due to demands from panda coin set builders in China.

Hopefully you can logon from time to time to give us a first hand account of what is happening in China.

Thank you, now just Chinese version, but we can lauch a English version bbs column if a lot of friends need. Maybe it is a bridge between estern and western dealers and collectors. We just help Dennis finished the registration.

You are correct I was asking the question, not making a statement. I have never attended a mainland show for the very reasons you mentioned and probably never will. Hong Kong is the ideal venue for commerce and you don't have to worry about customs arbitrarily taking your coins away or holding them ransom until you pay some duty.

It is nice to see young (under 50) attend the shows in China.

Agree with you R3 the US shows are a waste of time, I rarely bring any inventory to display and anything good is almost always sold before the show starts. I no longer view shows as a marketplace to do business, but rather socialize with dealer and collectors. Online auctions will take over the industry in the next 20 years, if it hasn't already.

what about buying coins from collectors at shows? i've sold lots of coins for very cheap prices to dealers at the long beach show over the years. i should think i'm not the only person doing that.

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