Jackie Bourque is in the eye of a whirlwind of mixed emotions since discovering she and thousands of others in Atlantic Canada may have been misled over many centuries about their Acadian heritage.

“I had been led to believe I was a Cajun girl and that we had to maintain our French … and not mix with the English,” says the Bathurst, N.B. native who is currently living in Quebec.

“It took me several weeks to actually accept that I am Jewish more than I am Acadian,” says Jackie, who believes she has stumbled upon a little-known or little-discussed fact: that many of the familiar Acadian surnames are more likely of Jewish origin than of French.

“People will not generally accept this,” she says, “because they have been brainwashed.”

EVIDENCE CLINCHED IT

Jackie was finally convinced by the evidence of “a Semitic stain,” a birthmark common among Acadians and which proponents claim identifies them with their Sephardic Crypto-Jewish ancestors who fled to southern France from Spain during the Inquisition (1478-808).

The deal for the Jews fleeing to France was “change your name and convert” to the Roman Catholic faith, says Jackie.

Our so-called French ancestors who immigrated here during the 17th and 18th centuries have surnames found among census of Jews who were condemned and sought by the Inquisition, she claims.

NOTABLE NAMES

Bourque is one, as is LeBlanc, Bourgeois, Landry, Mallet, Doucet, Vienneau, Lamarche and many more.

“When the person has the name and the ‘stain’ to boot, then how can they deny their identity?” says Jackie, who has the birthmark.

“I’ve been doing my own personal research with all these names, just among the people I meet, or neighbours and, definitely, they all have either the pinkish dots in the neck at the hairline, or some browning/blackish splat on their back.

“Others have it at the waistline. I have also found some have it on their arm at the shoulder level.

“To prove my point, when I find out their names, I immediately tell them about the Semitic stain, otherwise, they could say, ‘Ah, you’re just making this up.’ ”

170 Comments

Can you say KOSHER POUTINE STANDS all over Jerusalem? Kosher tourtiere? A large influx of formerly Catholic French Canadians to Israel would bring new, bitterly ironic meaning to the phrase “cauliss tabarnac!”

Jackie, that comment was written 8 years ago! And I don’t think I was being mean or mocking you. At the time you hadn’t even shown up yet! That having been said, there is now a place in Jerusalem that sells poutine. No tourtiere yet but I’m pretty sure it would sell here like hot cakes. Israelis like meat. Me? I’m a vegetarian so it doesn’t help me much. I’m fascinated by how this post has taken on a life of it’s own and you are a valued member of our Jewlicious community.
🙂

Well, like my good Rabbi says: “Jackie, you’re more Jewish than a Rabbi”… I’ve returned to my roots and I am quite satisfied with my “return” to the Faith of my fathers.

I continuously have a flow of letters coming in especially from the US and some in Europe who are finding their J2 Haplo; they are just as shocked as I was. I’m sorry for the Acadian geneologists who fight this tooth and nail. However there is an Italian living in France who wrote and confirms that we, the Acadians are Jews from Spain. He and his father are writing a book on their findings.

My question is: Why is Israel not looking for the Jews who fled into France/Portugal and other European countries during the Inquisition? We are the chopped liver of the Jewish Community, but the fact remains, we are still Levites and GOD knows it.

Since this article first appeared, I spent time as a volunteer with the IDF and will return when the next war begins. I did this in the name of all lost Jews of Acadia who were persecuted just because of being Jewish.

I love being Jewish, I love observing the Law and all that surrounds the Shabbats and Holy Festivals.

I left tons of prayers at the KOTEL for my people to be awakened to this wonderful truth.
Am Israel Chai.

I’ve been studying the wanderings of the lost tribes of Israel since I was a teenager back in the ’70’s. The subject is fascinating and I am truly glad to have found this website!

Kate

12/19/2017 at 10:52 am

Hi Jackie,

If you’re still out there, I’m 100% a believer in this. I ended up with unexpected (and high!) amounts of “jewish” DNA (retested multiple times and it doesn’t change). I though it was in error until a year later when I traced many of my french ancestors back to Acadia and found some even older records citing them as “conversos”.

Would love to chat if you have the time!

Loving Life

1/26/2019 at 4:34 pm

I would not necessarily agree French Canadians are the chopped liver of the Jewish Community. We don’t know we’re Jewish…yet. After speaking with a Sephardic Rabbi in the U.S. (about 16 years ago) when I first realized there is something of a Jewish naming pattern in my tree with names and many of the surnames being Sephardic in origin. This rabbi said with French Canadians, if this is can be proven this would mean we were among the very 1st Jewish settlers to the Americas. French Canadian Jews are not secretive like the Secret Jews of the American Southwest (who conducted Jewish worship in private) With our history it’s been buried so deep, for us not to find. Our Ancestors after all, were always running scared. We’re not secretive, because we have no clue we’re Jewish to begin with. We as a people have not held onto Jewish customs and traditions like the American Southwest hidden Jews have.

I would say that the whole Crypto-Judaism conversation has continued to grow and evolve. It started in the American Southwest and the conversation has continued to grow because of the breast cancer rates and DNA testing, etc.

Are Sephardi considered to be 2nd class Jews? Some have said even in Israel there is a distinction between the groups of Jews, almost like social classes. Even with Sephardi being “Biblical Jews”

Technically Crypto-Jews are called ‘people of the double blessing’ The is the bigger question is how to change the French Canadian culture to even have some sense of understanding of this possible inclusion of Jewish lineage in our trees? When I have mentioned it to my own family it was not met with any type of interest, just straight denial. It was shutdown immediately, which is sad. The truth is the truth.

The only time we can even see this with some understanding is through studying at length our tree. Then they light goes off. Even our naming traditions for our children comes from Judaism.

How Jewish did your parents raise you? Some of the things we did as a family after speaking with a Jewish friend I learned are Jewish customs and ways of living.

1) Not eating the veins in meat
2) Placing a silver coin in a baby’s 1st bath
3) Combing your hair immediately after a bath
4) Taking out the blood spots in eggs
5) A deep respect for property lines
6) Naming your children after family members

I was reading the jewlicious sight about all the physical traits of the Cajuns that might have a Jewish ancestors. My dad, his father, me and my siblings and our kids all have the reddish spots at the hairline. My daughter also has the “stain” on her shoulder and a brown birth mark on her back. My maiden name is Guidry. I didn’t see it listed in the above column and didn’t know if this information applied to our family.

Eli

12/7/2017 at 3:35 pm

Dear Jackie Bourque, I’m always interested in unique things and this is one of those curiosities of mine hit me up on emailEliblu80@yahoo.com
Thanks Eli Kelahlyah

To add more fuel to my fire (Acadians are really Jewish), here is an excerpt taken from thegeneticscen...

What “Jewish” diseases are we talking about?
Tay-Sachs disease, Canavan disease, familial dysautonomia, Niemann-Pick (type A) disease, Fanconi anemia (group C), Bloom syndrome, Gaucher disease (the non-neuronopathic type), mucolipidosis type IV, and glycogen storage disease type 1. These are all uncommon conditions that are predominantly found in persons of Ashkenazi ancestry. [Tay-Sachs disease is also found in persons of French-Canadian (Acadian) ancestry and, rarely, in mixed Jewish/non Jewish couples.] Although not strictly a disorder of European Jews, cystic fibrosis is often included in an Ashkenazi heritage screening panel, since it occurs with the same frequency in European Jews as in members of the non-Jewish Caucasian population (approximately 1/3,000

Recently ordered the Family Finder genealogical test from Family Tree DNA.

Family Finder test examines all of one’s chromosomes in terms of their ethnic origins.

A few interesting and unexpected results: (1) Legally I am 5/32 (16%) Native American. However, since I actually only possess 6.52% Native American chromosomes, it seems my father’s Native American chromosomes, due to recombination in gametogenesis, were largely excluded from the sperm cell from which i originated. Hopefully the tribe will not revoke my membership card. Ha! Ha! (2) Now I know that many French Canadian families were descended of Sephardic Jews and it appears I got my fair share of Hebrew chromosomes. (3) Of course, the 71.83 % Finnish – Russian conection derives from my Scandinavian mother since Scandinavians are in large part descended of earlier Russian and Finnish ancestors. Afterall, only the Russians have more blondes than the Swedes.

Find attached charts from Family Tree.

The Population Finder program determines your biogeographical ancestry â€” the story of your personal genetic history â€” by comparing your autosomal DNA to that of our world DNA population database.

Your Population Finder results consist of up to four out of seven continental groups.* For each, the percentage of your genome that matches is shown. You may view your results as either a stacked bar or pie chart.

Where possible, we list specific subgroups such as Basque and Bedouin or subregions such as Western Europe. More Info.

* The seven continental groups are based on genetic similarity and do not precisely match geographical continents.

To: Dennis Tate
My understanding of the Family Finder DNA test is that 21.65% of my autosomal (non-sex) chromosomes match those of the Israeli reference population.
I think it interesting that my father was near total French Canadian ancestry and it follows that he would likely have had about twice the percentage of matches with the Israeli reference population. If he is a typical French Canadian, then it would seem to be the case that the typical French Canadian is approximately of 40% Jewish ancestry. Hopefully my thoughts on this subject are not too far from the truth.

Yes, Jackie. This ‘delta mutation’ that you’re talking about, is indeed common among the non-Jewish Caucasian population, and becomes magnified in a founder population, because there’s so little genetic drift. All this about the ‘stain’ is not just silly (so much can cause birthmarks) but also stigmatizing, to refer to this as a ‘stain’, ergo ‘Jewish’. I personally find that distressing.

From GENEALOGY, that is, proven traceable RECORDS of ancestors, how is there proof of Ashkenazi roots among the Acadians? What names specifically have been associated with Jewish ancestry in French Canada, when? And specifically among the Quebecois? And during what time period did the most of them come? I’d be much more interested in that, than all of this nonsense about stains and COMMON genes.

I’m not sure why you’re fighting this in such an aggressive way. I found this story interesting. But the reality behind it is a lost piece of Canadian history and many elements of it are in line with what I’ve found in my genealogical adventures which have included extensive research. I’ve taken the last four years to map out my ancestry. While it seemed far fetched at first, I have done DNA testing (multiple) and have also mapped many of my Acadian and Quebecois ancestors back to villages in France which were historically formed and inhabited by Jews fleeing the inquisition (and even 4 back to Jewish settlements in Portugal). There is no doubt in my mind that at least half of my french canadian and acadian ancestors were in fact descended from jews fleeing both the Spanish and Portuguese inquisitions. I even have records which refer to several of my ancestors directly as “conversos” and “murranos”. While I don’t personally consider myself jewish as a result, I do value the struggle of my ancestors these hundreds of years ago and consider that there is a historically jewish piece to my puzzle as a human being. Not sure why this would enrage you. Happy to chat.

Hi Kate
Guys like Ari are a dime a dozen.
As the Scripture saith: The Prodigal Son came Home to the Father and the “other guy”, like Ari, was JEALOUS. My first ancestor who came to CANADA in 1610 was called BOURG… 2 Centuries later, the Roman Church changed the G for a “Q”… I found that ANTOINE BOURG was named ABRAHAM BOURG but his name was changed to ANTOINE at baptism. This confirms that there was a conversion… and his Jewish name was changed!

All our French surnames are interchangeable to Hebrew surnames. Ex: My mom is a DOUCET… this means Sugar or Sweet. In Spain, it would have been ZUCKER.
Should you have other questions, you can reach me on FB under the name of JACKIE BOURG, Montreal

Wow Jackie. Thanks for keeping us updated on this really remarkable story. So now how about a good recipe for kosher tourtiere? A friend of my family, a French-Canadian woman who converted to Judaism, made us a kosher tourtiere once and it was delicious! Can you help? Tourtiere is this yummy meat pie for those of you who don’t know.

Acadians aren’t “poutine” eaters…
but we eat all the food we “sea”…
and by golly, even keep dairy Law on this one…
No milk or milk products with seafood….
Why we asked? Because you will surely die.
So at a low point in my life (few years ago),
I thought I’d give it a shot. Ate the kosher lobster
(well, I prayed over it!) and then drank a glass of
milk.

Lies my mother told me!

JB

ps: We do not make tourtieres either. When I first
saw one, it made news in N.B.: “Ma! These Quebecers
eat hamburg pies!” Nobody could believe this! Ha!
Vive le Quebec.

Thank you for your feedback; I am encouraged that you are seeking your Jewishness! I would also like to add that we now have a group of French people whom have had their DNA test completed and have been legally declared 100% Jewish. Just click above at geocities.com/... to contact the Webmaster for instructions.

This is fulfillment of prophecy according to Ezekiel 37:16 & 17: “The Word of Adonai came again unto me saying: …”Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, for JUDAH, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take ANOTHER stick, and write upon it, for Joseph, the stick of E’phraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions: And JOIN them one to another into ONE stick: and they shall become ONE in thine hand”…

This great event is not a man thing, but destiny with our G-d for such a time as this; Daniel the Prophet said: “Knowledge shall be increased in the end times”. Surely, this is a phenomena of all times!

My Family name is Vadeboncoeur this is a nom du guerre, the originally is Sulte and my other ancestor is Cournoyer am I of Askenazi or Sephardic Jewish descent? The reason I ask is because I have those spots that were mentioned and I can tell you that I look like Corey Haim’s twin! Please tell me if I am a Jew or not.

Being one of the many descendants of the Vezina family of North America I have developed a bit of interest in this subject of Sephardic ancestry of French Canadians. For a time I too was intrigued by the possibility of Tay Sachs and OPMD serving as indicators of Jewish ancestry. However, following a fair amount of internet research on the subject I have come to learn that the mutations for these diseases are different for Jews and French Canadians and will not serve as ancestral indicators.

I really thought this was another wannabe jew story. i am part french canadian and here are the cohen modal haplotypes and my dna results. i match 5 out of 6 of the most common cohen alleles. can anyone make anything out of this i really dont think it is correct. there must be more to this that i am mising. our ancestor came from the french spanish border area to new france in the 1650s. If anyone can email me or respond to this post i would greatly appreciate it.

Brandon
I hope you will get this little letter. I have not come on this forum in many years for many reasons, however, you can still contact me directly at the above email addresses.

French Canadians (Quebeccers) and Acadians/Cajuns are indeed from the priesthood of the Temple in Jerusalem. That is why we are basically all creative (singers, musicians, sculptors, designers, etc).
Write me! Shalom alechem.

I sing and dance but my grandad was an Irish tenor from west ireland and catholic and a scotsman too of celtic hereitage mixed with my french and german..think we are all mixed … so god bless the creative …..a La Crosse descendant from St. Lawrence area/St Mark’s
and Quebec City , Quebec..family immigrated to Carthage NY

Has been awhile, but if memory serves me then it has been my understanding that the Cohanim is determined by a distinctive alu-insertion (non genetic material imbedded in Y chromosome) and predates the Jews and can be found today amoungst a variety of different peoples such as Armenians, Arabs, Jews, Turks, Italians, etc. I believe that Family Tree DNA automatically tests for this Cohanim genetic trait and automatically advises test participants if they possess this genetic trait. As I recall the Cohanim genetic trait is limited to those individuals with Y chromosomes belonging to haplogroup J. In sum, although a possible association with a Jewish ancestry it is not a definitive Jewish trait.

This really freaked me out. Thanks for the info Jackie. When my son was born, an Israeli said to me “Is that baby crying in Hebrew?” I laughed, but the uncanny thing is that it may be true! Later when my son turned 4 he declared to me that he no longer wanted to be called by his given name, he wanted to be called “Judah”. I asked him where he had ever heard that name before and he didn’t know. Then my father, who was Cajun passed away. He knew that his grandmother was a German Jew. Recently I felt it important to find out more about my heritage. I have been floored by all of the information that seems to point to the Jewishness of my father and also my mother. But even more incredible is that now we are finding that my husband may also be. My son has the semitic stain you described in his hairline and lower spine. Something we are curious about is that all of my siblings and our children inherited this sort of skin rash from my Dad. It doesn’t itch or hurt at all, it just looks like rash on arms and sometimes the back. When I went to one of the sites Jackie mentioned, I found genetic information regarding diseases that affect my family, including the fact that my Dad died of colon cancer. I totally am in agreement that this must be a fulfillment of prophecy in process, because I have always felt “kin” to the Jewish people and in the years since my son was born have been trying to learn more about the traditions. We are participating in the DNA testing which at this point involves 4 different family lines. Wow! Susan

i have never read so much jokes in a day !
there is a little difference between someone WHO WANT TO BE JEWISH and a jew !
sorry but the facts are there !: the French Canadians are not of jewish descent this is a fact that can be easily verify and clearly proved.
There is a certain propaganda trying to denaturalize the catholic French Canadian identity (we all heards of the supposed (yes… supposed) Indian origin of the French Canadians wich many historians have proved to be a-b-s-o-l-u-t-e-l-y wrong !!
now you have pointed out that lots of French Canadians suffer from genetics diseases exactly like the jewish communities, the meaning of that point is that most of these diseases are CONGENITAL DISEASES, due to the fact that french canadian were living with 1- Indians 2-Anglo-saxon protestants (exaclty like jews had to suffer from the so horrible torture of living in stupid goyim’s country), they had to get married with catholics…..and only the little french canadians bastions were catholic in north america, that is the reason why cystic fibrosis is ( wich is nearly almost, but not only, a disease of the caucasian (white) race)frequent in French Canadians genes.
somes have pointed out that lots of french Canadians family names were from jewish origin,
let me remind you that: it is not french canadian names who descent from jewish origin but somes of the jewish names comes from french names exactly like the ashkenazi’s names came from the yiddish dialect wich is a kind of bastardized language derived from german language.

now i am not saying that no french canadian have jewish descent !!!! it is possible !
but making out of the french canadian community the 13th lost tribe is a kind of aberration !

but speaking of the “jewishness“ of the french canadians…..can we speak now , of the jewishness of the jews themselves…oh oh !!!
several JEWISH historians (like Arthur Koestler, Benjamin Freedman and many more…their studies have never been refuted, by the way)have pointed out that ashkenazims were not jewish but not even semite ! in fact it is fairly said that 90% of the world jewish community are not even semite, but originated from a turk-mongol descent from the old kingdom of Khazaria at the south of Russia,
and recent genealogycal studies have ended up to the conclusion that a large percentage of sephardic are no way jewish !( the famous americain history magazine, the Barnes Review, have pointed that one out, several times)
so that would mean that the zionist racket “the land of Israel belong to the(non)Jews“ is a total aberration to the truth, history and intelligence !!

You’re just one of those Kazaars who still want to get rid of Sephardic Jews. Get a life and get a brain.
Do you suppose that Hashem only has 15 million grains on sand laid upon all the oceans (and beaches) of this Planet? And how about the stars that He promised Aveinu Avraham.

Sorry F.hamelin but I haven’t gone out looking to be a Jew. I’m proud of my Cajun heritage, and irregardless of the outcome of this present situation, that is my heritage. What difference would it make for you or anyone else if my ancestors turned out to be Jewish? Does someone have the ultimate say over a bloodline for crying out loud? I have just as much right to know about my ancestors as you or anyone else has to know about theirs. By the way isn’t there a Jewish saying that a child born to a Jewish mother is Jewish? Well then my Grandfather was Jewish because his mother was Jewish. So if I want to jump on the “I’m a Jew” bandwagon there’s my chance. If I wanted to “convert” I could do that too, without bloodlines. The land of Israel is the Jews’ (children of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob) by decree of G-D irregardless of what people say. But from what you’ve written it would appear that you think there is no such thing as a JEW on this planet. So to clarify it, its possible that some people in this world may have descended from a group of non-existant people. Or from a fairy tale about some lost tribes which just burned themselves out.

Hope you’re still reading the threads Susan.
You can contact me any time by the address given.
I would be delighted sharing with you via SKYPE.

PS: An Italian author contacted me last year, saying that he lives in France
and had discovered he was a Levite…and his surname was BOURG.
Bourg is also found on yadvashem.org
This is Israel’s Holocaust Center. Luckily, my name is there, but for
most people, you have to translate your surnames, e.g. LeBlanc= WEISS
LeSage = WISE/WISEMAN
Doucet/Ladouceur/Ledoux = Zucker/Zuckerman
Petit = KLEIN….Etc Etc Etc

Also, you can check out: sephrdim.com and translate your surnames into Spanish ones. It is a work of passion which has not yet been given much thought.

here is some good links, there you will find out how “jews“, as you say it, are absolutely not “Yehuda“.
You are of Turk-Mongols descents not of Abraham’s descent, in these books, if you are honest and if you want to know the truth, you will find that Ashkenazim “jews“ are just “goyim“ as Inuits !

Because what’s in our heads and the facts…..are two extreme differences !

If you think that you can brake a tree with your head…. try it ! but, it is possible that the truth will be a “HARD“ truth ! (i am very sorry Susan)

Find me a geneologist who can supply us with information about our heritage in France beyond Year 1500…?
You have to use your head here…and link the dots…crossing over to Spain, over the Pyrenees.

I spent 2 months in Spain last year researching our surnames.
Results were positively excellent.

Go sell your story book to the hard cooked heathen religion.
You sound like a Jesuit in disguise while promoting your Constantinian story, the Crusades, Inquisition, Pogroms, Holocaust and continuous hate of Jews fueled by your contaminated evil Popes.

Anyway, the real problem is that people think in the wrong categories about what it means to be Jewish. The primary thing to remember is that being Jewish is primarily a spiritual condition. True Jewishness exists in the spiritual realm (ruchnius) and only incidentally in the physical realm (gashmius).

Gentiles think primarily in physical terms. So to them a Jew is somebody with “Jewish DNA” or “Jewish blood”. There is this physical aspect, yes, but Avraham became the father of the Jewish nation not because of his physical DNA but because he established a relationship with G-d, which changed his spiritual DNA, if you will. Avram became Avraham. He was a compleyel new and different person. This spiritual essence then became embodied in a physical nation, the Jewish nation.

The seed of Avraham is reckoned through Isaac, who could not have been born without G-d’s direct intervention. So Isaac, and through him the jewish people, exist on this spiritual plane. Ishmael, Avraham’s son through Haga the Egyptian was born in the normal way. he is Avraham’s physical descendent but not his spiritual descendent.

Since this heritage is primarily a spiritual one, this makes it possible for anyone to be a Jew if that person wants to have a Jewish relationship with G-d.

So even if the majority of Ashkenazim are descended from the Turkish-Mongol Khazars ( a dubious idea at best) it absoutely does not matter in the least. Yes, the Khazars did convert. But by doing so they became just as Jewish as anyone. Their “race” no longer mattered. This way is open to anyone.

It is this vital point that gentiles do not understand. They only think in physical terms. This is why they never can understand what being a Jew really means. Do not bother to listen to them.

Hi,
oh sorry i don’t want to offend anybody here !
i am a little bit nervous and i am just asking some questions here !
sorry for that again !

After all these years….i always think that a jews was by race only…(how stupid i am)… thank you so much for letting me know that a jew is by faith only !

can you just answer some question that a few gentiles (ashkenazim) have pointed out ?
(this is only for my well being)

1- what is the difference between B’nai B’rith and B’nai Noah ?
2-why a member of B’nai Noah cannot be a member of B’nai B’rith ?
3-you say that you would hardly take Koestler for a expert……excellent….so you will easily refute his work right now on this forum….since he is not a expert and he is wrong !
4-please refute Freedman on-line and right now too because he did the same studies.
5- why is there so much atheists“jews“ in Israel who claim that palestine is their land…since Israel belong to jews (by faith only)
6- so that would mean that if my mother was jewish by race only (but not by faith)then i am not a jew (so Susan…is the mother of your grand father was jewish by faith….because if she wasn’t…your grand father wasn’t too)
7-why “jewish“ authorities DO NOT encourage conversions ?
8-so the king of Israel may be a “jew by faith only“?
9-what does “anti-semite“ mean ?

My point is that it doesn’t matter if Koestler is right or wrong. Refuting him is meaningles because his argument and the categories he uses are, from a Jewish perspective, completely meaningless. The race/ethnicity/DNA/physical appearance of the Khazars is entirely irrelevant. Once they converted they became Jews. What they once may have been simply doesn’t matter.

A Jew who is born a Jew remains a Jew. There is no such thing as a Jew “by faith only” or “by race only”. These are gentile categories. If your mother is a Jew, you are a Jew. A Jew might apostasize and join another religion, which would make it impossible for him to participate in Jewish communal life, but he cannot erase what he is. If and when he repents, he can be welcomed back into the community.

However, since you are a gentile and think in gentile terms, I don’t expect you to understand this, of course. You simply must face the fact that there is at once a spiritual as well as a physical aspect of being Jewish. You must understand that we do not care what you think we are or should be, and the categories you use to try to define us don’t mean anything to us. We get to decide who and what we are and no one else. You’ll just have to live with it.

Personally, I think it is a shame that so many Jews, some Israelis included, are atheists who ignore the commandments. But the fact that they are this way does not invalidate their status as Jews. But, like I said, since you think in gentile categories, I do not expect you to understand that. G-d will decide if the faith of the Jewish people as a whole entitles them to continue to exercise their right to live in Israel. It may be, G-d forbid, that we may be found wanting in this category as we were before. But the covenant can never be annulled and even if there were not a single Jew living in israel it would still belong to the Jewish people.

B’nei Noach refers to non-Jews who keep the seven commandments of Noach. B’nei Brith is a Jewish political/cultural organization, but I suppose you are using it to refer to the Jewish people.

A B’nei Noach may become a Jew if he/she wants to. But Jews are required to obey many more sommandments than gentiles are. So, if a gentile eats pork or does not observe the Sabbath, it is not a sin for him. If a Jew does these things, however, it is a sin. So since gentiles are not required to observe the commandments that Jews are required to observe, they are perfectly fine as they are and they do not need to convert. Since converting a gentile carries a risk that the convert may not observe all of the commandments properly, rabbis discourage conversion, since it is simply not necessary. However, if a gentile truly wants to convert and undertakes to obey the commandments and the rabbis are convinced of his sincerity, he can become a Jew. The fact that there are Jews who do not observe the commandments properly has nothing to do with this.

Thanks Ephraim for your kind response. Your words are full of wisdom and greatly appreciated. Throughout history whether a “Jew” was defined by blood or by faith there has always been this desire to get rid of them… maybe now explaining them away is the new form of genocide? If you can’t eradicate them, just say they never existed? Ephraim you made more sense in a sentence than anything else I’ve read on the subject. Thanks and Shalom!

1-IS HE RIGHT OR WRONG ?(because if he is right….you are in big troubles !!!)
2-why is there laws who apply to jews and non-jews…..?
3-why non-jews have to obey to the 7 commandments of Noah ?
4-why cardinal August Bea was member of the B’nai B’rith and “catholic“ ?
5-no the word anti-semite doesn’t apply to someone who think that you are a clown….since you are not even a semite, but a khazar.
6-Semite is a word who describe peoples who descents from Sem by blood !(uuuuhhh…..physical….no…. stupid gentile i am) well you are thinking just like a goy right now because you refer to physical terms…
7- so you admit that ashkenazim are from Khazaria ?
8-do palestinians (the true ones) are semites ?
9-maybe you can be a semite by faith too ?
10-genocide ? what do you mean….(ohhh yes….the genocide).
Mr. Arthur Rupin who is jewish (by blood and by faith) estimated the EUROPEAN jewish population before 1940 to :5 710 000 and the Jewish documents center of Paris estimated the EUROPEAN jewish population before 1940 to :5 294 000 and even Dr. Korherr (who is jewish by blood and by faith) Estimated the EUROPEAN jewish population before 1940 to : 5 500 000…..how about 6 millions killed ?
11- why gentiles cannot understand what you are (not) answering ?
12-is it because non-jews are too stupid?
13- why “jews“ can understand all these things that you are (not) answering ?
14- is it because they are more intelligent?

i am glad…because i finally found a “jews“ who will explain things that goyim cannot understand !
by the way….every thing that i write here are not from gentiles…..but from “jews“ (khazars) !

thank you for answering these questions and please help me understand !

The term anti-Semitism was invented in the 19th century by Jew-haters who wanted a more scientific name. Somehow the usage spread and itÂ´s what weÂ´re stuck with to describe Jew-hatred. Since “Semitic” refers to a language group, some people insist that hatred of speakers of other Semitic languages, like Arabic, should be called anti-Semitism. Most people donÂ´t accept this, because of the long, undeniably unique history of Jew-hatred.

Hamelin, now youÂ´ve revealed youÂ´ve been reading some Holocaust-denial type literature. Are you still insisting youÂ´re not anti-Semitic? I encourage you to read some non-fringe scholarship about the Holocaust and keep an open mind. I hope you eventually realize that there are a lot of weird people out there, who also happen to hate Jews, who are willing to lie and distort and invent things to mislead people about Jews and the Holocaust.

The Jewish nation/religion has citizenship rules, like any nation. You are a member of the group if your mother was Jewish, or if you convert according to Jewish law.

My understanding is that DNA evidence suggests that the Khazars contributed relatively little to the gene pool of Ashkenazim. But as Ephraim explained, this is irrelevant, since itÂ´s the “citizenship” requirements, not blood, that make one Jewish. Even if these French-Canadians have some Jewish DNA, it doesnÂ´t make them Jewish, unless they know their entire maternal line has been Jewish, or unless they convert. Knowing you have some Jewish blood can be one motivation to convert, but it is not necessary at all, and tons of people have converted to Judaism just because they started learning about the religion and the people for some reason and came to believe in the religion and, despite the dangers of anti-Semitism, want to belong to the people. Some people have dreams or visions or strange recollections having to do with Judaism, and, despite having no genetic connection to Judaism, end up converting. As a side note, a Hassidic rabbi has a webpage and several books about people who he believes have reincarnated from Holocaust victims. pinenet.com/ro...

The Noahide commandments are the commandments given before Abraham, the first Jew, appears in the Bible. So Orthodox Jews believe that these commandments apply to all people. Now this may seem unreasonable to you. But keep in mind that unlike Islam, Christianity, Mormonism, and some other world religions, Judaism has never said that non-Jews are going to hell if they donÂ´t believe in Judaism.

You keep referring to Jews as Khazars. I hope you realize that Ashkenazim are only one group of Jews! Name-calling should at least make sense.

1-can a convert be the king of Israel ?
2-can a convert be a member of B’nai B’rith ?
3-can a convert be the prime minister of Israel ?
4-can a convert be a member of the “sanhedrin“?
5-can a convert be the head of the W.J.C.?
6-why 90 % of kosher taxes are paid by non-jews (gentiles)?
7-what is the percentage of ashkenazim jews in the world jewish community?
8-is it possible that YOUR messiah be a convert ?

semite i.e. (from Sem or Shem, eldest son of Noah.) A descendant of Shem; one of the semitic races; a Shemite -a Belonging to Shem or his descendants. -Semitic, se.mit’ik, a. Relating to Shem or his descendants; pertaining to the Hebrew race or any other Kindred to it.

please i am not anti-semite (since a large number of you guys are not semite), but anti-lies !
the problem is that all things that i write here…..was by ….Jews !!
Now if all these “anti-semite“ of anti-themselves jews are wrongs….(so the jewish document center of Paris are holocaust deniers ?)…..give me the proofs….not reincarnation stuffs…. i want to know the truth give it to me !
you are the “jews“ so you must understand thing easier than gentiles….please help me !

i want to convert to Judaism but there is some little things that i don’t understand (maybe it is because i am a….gentile) can somebody help me understanding these fabulous “passages“ of the Talmud and other judaism’s books ?

Rosch Haschanach(17a) — Non-Jews souls go down to hell.

Abhodah Zarah (22a) — Do not associate with gentiles, they shed blood.

Don’t be silly. Obeying the Seven Noahide laws given to all mankind after Noah’s Flood get absolutely anybody into Paradise. Relax. You will be fine.

Angels are not subject to temptation so they have no moral struggle; that is why men are better than angels when they make the right choices. Angels don’t have to do that and can’t do that.

We are required to pray for the government and to respect the law of any country we are in. “The law of the land is the law” is the phrase.

Of course, there are three things we must die rather than do: adultery, idolatry, murder.

Judaism is very liberal. More knowledge will help. What you are fighting with is not what we think or do anyway.

Yes, we had a very unhappy time with Christians, for quite a while. So?

It is useful if people of all kinds investigate their own heritages and not bother too much what other people think about their heritage. Keep your eyes on your own test paper, so to speak. Don’t worry about what the other guy is writing.

I did not have time to read everything. If you think you might be, or should be, a Jew, the nearest Chabad can look into that for you. They mean well and they know their stuff. It is not bad not to be a Jew if they say no. You can be fine either way, as a good Noahide or as a good Christian. God is not mean. He asks a lot but in a nice way. You can handle this.

Judaism is the ONLY thought-system, as far as I know, that says that people who are NOT IN IT, NOT members of it, can be completely fine people, just as good as its members, and go to Paradise, and sit in the front row with the best of the best.

Alas! Another sad victim of Nazi propoganda. F.Hamelin’s post is the copy of a Document of Lies being circulated and used by hate groups to promote Anti-semitism. If you really want to be educated, read the Jewish response to this junk. Dude don’t be so gullible as to believe everything you read second hand! Read the following if you are really “Seeking truth” as you say. If not why not spend your time at a Nazi website we’re this stupidity is welcomed.

“The anti-Semetic document â€œThe Talmud Exposedâ€ which has gained in popularity because of the Internet, claims to show the true nature and intentions of the Jewish people by quoting damning statements from the Talmud. The problem is not only are these alleged examples of nefarious Jewish tactics and bigotry taken wildly out of context but in many cases simply misquoted. But of course accuracy and good research are not the hallmarks of the bigot. As we at HateWatch say, don’t just believe what you read either from the bigot or from HateWatch, do the research yourself. We suggest that you the reader take a look at the citations of both the “Talmud Exposed” and this response and compare for yourself. In doing so, we are confident that you will come to the same conclusion that we have, that the disseminators of this anti-Semtic tract are trying to forment hatred against the Jewish people by lies and half-truths.
For examples of this text and information on the individuals reprinting this anti-Semetic tract online, please refer to these racist web sites; ex Klan leader, Don Black’s Stormfront and Holocaust denier Michael Hoffman’s, Campaign for Radical truth in history. For more information on these online bigots, please read the HateWatch’s biographies on Don Black and Michael Hoffman.”

-August Rohling-the talmudic jew-
a money reward have been offered to anybody who would give proofs that his translation of the talmud were false…..nobody showed up !

-chevalier Gougenot des Mousseaux-
who wrote several books on judaism !

it seems that the only “refute“ you guys have is…..“hey it’s not true !!“ or “well…dude…a rabbi wrote a book about “holocaust victims“ reincarnation“…or “you are a HOLOCAUST DENYER !!! ohhhh noooooooooooooo“ or the classical one “you are anti-semite“

it seem, to you guys, that denying the existence of a “holocaust“ is worst than denying the existence of God ! (or G-d)

now let get it back:
1-why a convert cannot be the king of the jews?
2-why a convert cannot be prime minister of Israel ?
3-why a convert cannot be a member of B’nai B’rith ?
4-why a convert cannot be a member of the “sanhedrin“?
5- why a convert cannot be at the head of the W.J.C. ?
6-why a convert cannot be your Messiah ?

Wait a minute, why are people debating with an idiot, because he’s taunting you? Hamelin, if you ask dumb questions, make stupid remarks and then retort to responses with meaningless idiocy, of course you’ll end up frustrated and cutting and pasting from your ridiculous sources.

By the way, before I insult you some more, how does it feel to know that the greatest historian among your folks – David Irving – is sitting in jail right because the crap he has published has been exposed as antisemitic claptrap?

And Hamelin, I do wonder, how does it feel to be stupid enough to cut and paste from sites that copy from other sites that copy from sources that got it wrong in the first place? 😆

1-the truth is i never read something of D.Irving and i didn’t know he was in jail ! (since when ?)

2-ohhh…sorry… i respond with idiocy…..well that is in your head, because not only YOU guys respond with idiocy but it is clear that YOU are idiots……i asked if someones had answers about my questions…..but YOU guys keep screaming about “holocaust denyer“ and “anti-semitism“…. can you answer the last questions i showed up ?
yes or no ?
if no shut up !
thanks

I am going to assume that Mr. Hamelin means well. I grew up in Quebec and while les Quebecois are fine and cosmopoltan people, sometimes older, outmoded ways of thinking continue to cling. Despite that, Quebecers are still warm and hospitable people. Now onto you questions – which you ought to probably address at a Rabbi or something …

1-why a convert cannot be the king of the jews?
King David was the great grandson of a convert (Ruth). Converts have, as far as I know, all the rights and obligations that born Jews have, except for some issues relating to the priesthood.

2-why a convert cannot be prime minister of Israel?

Again, never heard of that law. I know that anyone not born in the USA cannot be president of the US but I know of no similiar law in iSRAEL.

Ck, you know very well when people “mean well” and when they’re “outmoded thinkers.” Look at what he was saying, his sources and the general theme of his comments. Why the gentle and kind treatment?

I’m a little confused here, so bear with me. On the one hand, we now promote antisemitic websites with “website of the weak” with links and cutesy descriptions. The idea being that we fight them with this mockery. On the other hand, when a full-blooded attack on Jews using vile sources that are completely up to date and not outmoded in the least, and represent the most reprehensible side of hatred of Jews that can be found short of physical violence, suddenly we’re polite and answer graciously? Why? Why not treat people according to the treatment we are accorded? The idea is not to give the David Irvings an inch of room. They need to be treated with contempt, ignored and shunted aside.

Really, I’m more than confused and happy to hear what our purpose is over here. Are we now the website of the weak?

Indeed, Hamelin, I saw your profound maturity with the following “gentil” comments:

but speaking of the â€œjewishnessâ€œ of the french canadiansâ€¦..can we speak now , of the jewishness of the jews themselvesâ€¦oh oh !!!
several JEWISH historians (like Arthur Koestler, Benjamin Freedman and many moreâ€¦their studies have never been refuted, by the way)have pointed out that ashkenazims were not jewish but not even semite ! in fact it is fairly said that 90% of the world jewish community are not even semite, but originated from a turk-mongol descent from the old kingdom of Khazaria at the south of Russia,
and recent genealogycal studies have ended up to the conclusion that a large percentage of sephardic are no way jewish !( the famous americain history magazine, the Barnes Review, have pointed that one out, several times)
so that would mean that the zionist racket â€œthe land of Israel belong to the(non)Jewsâ€œ is a total aberration to the truth, history and intelligence !!

bye bye

Comment by F.Hamelin â€” 11/10/2005 @ 10:30 pm

Hi Susan,

here is some good links, there you will find out how â€œjewsâ€œ, as you say it, are absolutely not â€œYehudaâ€œ.
You are of Turk-Mongols descents not of Abrahamâ€™s descent, in these books, if you are honest and if you want to know the truth, you will find that Ashkenazim â€œjewsâ€œ are just â€œgoyimâ€œ as Inuits !

Because whatâ€™s in our heads and the factsâ€¦..are two extreme differences !

If you think that you can brake a tree with your headâ€¦. try it ! but, it is possible that the truth will be a â€œHARDâ€œ truth ! (i am very sorry Susan)

That is why i gave you adresses for on-line booksâ€¦ now go read the booksâ€¦.or shut up !

thanks

Comment by F.Hamelin â€” 11/21/2005 @ 10:17 pm

Hi,
oh sorry i donâ€™t want to offend anybody here !
i am a little bit nervous and i am just asking some questions here !
sorry for that again !

After all these yearsâ€¦.i always think that a jews was by race onlyâ€¦(how stupid i am)â€¦ thank you so much for letting me know that a jew is by faith only !

can you just answer some question that a few gentiles (ashkenazim) have pointed out ?
(this is only for my well being)

1- what is the difference between Bâ€™nai Bâ€™rith and Bâ€™nai Noah ?
2-why a member of Bâ€™nai Noah cannot be a member of Bâ€™nai Bâ€™rith ?
3-you say that you would hardly take Koestler for a expertâ€¦â€¦excellentâ€¦.so you will easily refute his work right now on this forumâ€¦.since he is not a expert and he is wrong !
4-please refute Freedman on-line and right now too because he did the same studies.
5- why is there so much atheistsâ€œjewsâ€œ in Israel who claim that palestine is their landâ€¦since Israel belong to jews (by faith only)
6- so that would mean that if my mother was jewish by race only (but not by faith)then i am not a jew (so Susanâ€¦is the mother of your grand father was jewish by faithâ€¦.because if she wasnâ€™tâ€¦your grand father wasnâ€™t too)
7-why â€œjewishâ€œ authorities DO NOT encourage conversions ?
8-so the king of Israel may be a â€œjew by faith onlyâ€œ?
9-what does â€œanti-semiteâ€œ mean ?

thank you and remember this is only for my well being !

Comment by F.Hamelin â€” 11/22/2005 @ 12:00 am

Hi there,

you are not answering one of the questionsâ€¦.
this is a pure joke!

again !

YOU SAY KOESTLER IS NOT A EXPERT !

1-IS HE RIGHT OR WRONG ?(because if he is rightâ€¦.you are in big troubles !!!)
2-why is there laws who apply to jews and non-jewsâ€¦..?
3-why non-jews have to obey to the 7 commandments of Noah ?
4-why cardinal August Bea was member of the Bâ€™nai Bâ€™rith and â€œcatholicâ€œ ?
5-no the word anti-semite doesnâ€™t apply to someone who think that you are a clownâ€¦.since you are not even a semite, but a khazar.
6-Semite is a word who describe peoples who descents from Sem by blood !(uuuuhhhâ€¦..physicalâ€¦.noâ€¦. stupid gentile i am) well you are thinking just like a goy right now because you refer to physical termsâ€¦
7- so you admit that ashkenazim are from Khazaria ?
8-do palestinians (the true ones) are semites ?
9-maybe you can be a semite by faith too ?
10-genocide ? what do you meanâ€¦.(ohhh yesâ€¦.the genocide).
Mr. Arthur Rupin who is jewish (by blood and by faith) estimated the EUROPEAN jewish population before 1940 to :5 710 000 and the Jewish documents center of Paris estimated the EUROPEAN jewish population before 1940 to :5 294 000 and even Dr. Korherr (who is jewish by blood and by faith) Estimated the EUROPEAN jewish population before 1940 to : 5 500 000â€¦..how about 6 millions killed ?
11- why gentiles cannot understand what you are (not) answering ?
12-is it because non-jews are too stupid?
13- why â€œjewsâ€œ can understand all these things that you are (not) answering ?
14- is it because they are more intelligent?

i am gladâ€¦because i finally found a â€œjewsâ€œ who will explain things that goyim cannot understand !
by the wayâ€¦.every thing that i write here are not from gentilesâ€¦..but from â€œjewsâ€œ (khazars) !

thank you for answering these questions and please help me understand !

Comment by F.Hamelin â€” 11/22/2005 @ 8:58 am

Hi there,

since you keep avoiding the true questions, iâ€™ll make it clear !

1-can a convert be the king of Israel ?
2-can a convert be a member of Bâ€™nai Bâ€™rith ?
3-can a convert be the prime minister of Israel ?
4-can a convert be a member of the â€œsanhedrinâ€œ?
5-can a convert be the head of the W.J.C.?
6-why 90 % of kosher taxes are paid by non-jews (gentiles)?
7-what is the percentage of ashkenazim jews in the world jewish community?
8-is it possible that YOUR messiah be a convert ?

semite i.e. (from Sem or Shem, eldest son of Noah.) A descendant of Shem; one of the semitic races; a Shemite -a Belonging to Shem or his descendants. -Semitic, se.mitâ€™ik, a. Relating to Shem or his descendants; pertaining to the Hebrew race or any other Kindred to it.

please i am not anti-semite (since a large number of you guys are not semite), but anti-lies !
the problem is that all things that i write hereâ€¦..was by â€¦.Jews !!
Now if all these â€œanti-semiteâ€œ of anti-themselves jews are wrongsâ€¦.(so the jewish document center of Paris are holocaust deniers ?)â€¦..give me the proofsâ€¦.not reincarnation stuffsâ€¦. i want to know the truth give it to me !
you are the â€œjewsâ€œ so you must understand thing easier than gentilesâ€¦.please help me !

Comment by F.Hamelin â€” 11/22/2005 @ 10:52 am

Hi,

i want to convert to Judaism but there is some little things that i donâ€™t understand (maybe it is because i am aâ€¦.gentile) can somebody help me understanding these fabulous â€œpassagesâ€œ of the Talmud and other judaismâ€™s books ?

Rosch Haschanach(17a) â€” Non-Jews souls go down to hell.

Abhodah Zarah (22a) â€” Do not associate with gentiles, they shed blood.

-August Rohling-the talmudic jew-
a money reward have been offered to anybody who would give proofs that his translation of the talmud were falseâ€¦..nobody showed up !

-chevalier Gougenot des Mousseaux-
who wrote several books on judaism !

it seems that the only â€œrefuteâ€œ you guys have isâ€¦..â€œhey itâ€™s not true !!â€œ or â€œwellâ€¦dudeâ€¦a rabbi wrote a book about â€œholocaust victimsâ€œ reincarnationâ€œâ€¦or â€œyou are a HOLOCAUST DENYER !!! ohhhh nooooooooooooooâ€œ or the classical one â€œyou are anti-semiteâ€œ

it seem, to you guys, that denying the existence of a â€œholocaustâ€œ is worst than denying the existence of God ! (or G-d)

now let get it back:
1-why a convert cannot be the king of the jews?
2-why a convert cannot be prime minister of Israel ?
3-why a convert cannot be a member of Bâ€™nai Bâ€™rith ?
4-why a convert cannot be a member of the â€œsanhedrinâ€œ?
5- why a convert cannot be at the head of the W.J.C. ?
6-why a convert cannot be your Messiah ?

Jewish mother i feel that you will convert me !!
please hurry !

Comment by F.Hamelin â€” 11/22/2005 @ 3:27 pm

AT THIS POINT, AFTER PEOPLE HAVE ATTEMPTED TO INTERACT POLITELY WITH ck’s NEW FRIEND, THE MIDDLE COMES IN:

Wait a minute, why are people debating with an idiot, because heâ€™s taunting you? Hamelin, if you ask dumb questions, make stupid remarks and then retort to responses with meaningless idiocy, of course youâ€™ll end up frustrated and cutting and pasting from your ridiculous sources.

By the way, before I insult you some more, how does it feel to know that the greatest historian among your folks – David Irving – is sitting in jail right because the crap he has published has been exposed as antisemitic claptrap?

And Hamelin, I do wonder, how does it feel to be stupid enough to cut and paste from sites that copy from other sites that copy from sources that got it wrong in the first place?

You are our newly annointed moron.

Comment by themiddle â€” 11/22/2005 @ 3:57 pm

Hi middle,

1-the truth is i never read something of D.Irving and i didnâ€™t know he was in jail ! (since when ?)

2-ohhhâ€¦sorryâ€¦ i respond with idiocyâ€¦..well that is in your head, because not only YOU guys respond with idiocy but it is clear that YOU are idiotsâ€¦â€¦i asked if someones had answers about my questionsâ€¦..but YOU guys keep screaming about â€œholocaust denyerâ€œ and â€œanti-semitismâ€œâ€¦. can you answer the last questions i showed up ?
yes or no ?
if no shut up !
thanks

Comment by F.Hamelin â€” 11/22/2005 @ 4:20 pm

is jews are illogical at this point ?
i canâ€™t believe that !

Comment by F.Hamelin â€” 11/22/2005 @ 4:22 pm

Hamelin, your comments are ignorant and idiotic. Sorry, thereâ€™s nothing I can do about that. Maybe itâ€™s your ancestry, I understand they may have come from the criminal element in France.

Comment by themiddle â€” 11/22/2005 @ 4:25 pm

â€œYou are our newly annointed moron.â€œ

you mean exactly like you did with Jesus-Christ ?
i take that as a complimentâ€¦.but i donâ€™t deserve to be compare with the King, because he is and by far superior to me and to gas chambers too !

Fhamelin, why not just save time and get to your point without posting your ridiculous questions that you have no desire to know the answers to? And why do you keep dragging Jesus into this, anyway? He surely wasn’t anything like you… by the way, he was a JEW… oh yeah I forgot you don’t think there is such a thing, so in that case, according to your own words, He never existed either. I guess he was just observing Passover and learning the Torah for kicks and giggles, eh? Once again, why don’t you just get to your frickin’ point and then shut up, (As you are so fond of telling everyone else to do). And while you’re at it, your English really stinks! Please speak in your native language so that we can just ignore you. By the way, to everyone else, this guy doesn’t represent Acadian/French people… he represents those who are obsessed with Hate and Lies… their skin color is YELLOW. The kind that have to go on a Jewish website to tell JEWS that they are evil and that they don’t exist. Hey, Hamelin let it go! You’re looking a little obsessed here! Take a deep breath and calm down before you make a faux pas or a tete ‘a tete or a menage a trois or some other French word. (uh-oh, I think that might have been offensive, sorry). How old do you guys think this child is anyway?

your parents get to tell you what religion you are? if your idea of parenthood is infallible tyranny, i guess i can see now why you push so hard for it. also if it were up to Mel Gibson there totally would be a war between the Catholics and the Jews. he’s a nut.

Let’s get back to the original subject, about being “French & Jewish”. I’m not sure about the French Canadians, but I do know you can trace the Dukes of Normandy back thru King Guillaume de Gellone of France, who’s parents were Makhir Bar Habibai & Aldane Carolingian. We are talking here about the Davidic & Carolingian Dynasties merging, the Jewish Exhilarchs of the Resh Galut.
Anybody related to French Royalty is most probably a descendant of Judah & Levi. Check out my website geneological links and my personal family tree. seiberspace.tr...
You can also trace the Dukes of Normandy thru the Scandinavian Royalty, directly thru the Trojans, Greeks, right into Zerah bar Yehudah & Electra of Troy. We are talking here about the son of Judah. Albeit these Jews married “outside” the tribe, the fact they can still be traced makes the law of return that much easier for French of Royal descent. The only problem they may run into is the lack of a “Jewish mother” B.S.. That law was originally created during the Holocaust, because many Jews did not know who their father was. But if the father’s lineage can be traced, I don’t believe the “Jewish mother” law should apply. Besides, when it comes to tribal affiliation during the Messianic Age, if only your mother was Jewish, you have a big handicap in which tribe to become part of. Your tribal affiliation is ONLY thru the father. But you can claim general Jewish identity thru either.
Shalom mein bruders, and quit yer kvetching!

Matrilineal descent as the basis for Jewish identity did not start with the Holocaust. It’s been around for at least 2,000 years (according to historian types), if not longer (the Orthodox argue, using the Talmud, that Matrilineal descent was operative in Biblical times). I’m not sure about this Messianic age stuff, but my general understanding is that Jewish law is not supposed to change when Moshiach comes. Keep in mind that conversion is always possible. Tons of people with Jewish fathers or some Jewish ancestry end up converting.

There seems to be some scholarly debate, among people who don’t believe this, about when matrilineality emerged, with the latest feasible time being (I think) in the Talmudic era. There are apparently some (false) urban myths that matrilineality came about later, because of such stressors as the middle ages, the Kossacks, or the Holocaust.

In Deuteronomy 7:1-5, in expressing the prohibition against intermarriage, G-d says “he [ie, the non-Jewish male spouse] will cause your child to turn away from Me and they will worship the gods of others.” No such concern is expressed about the child of a non-Jewish female spouse. From this, we infer that the child of a non-Jewish male spouse is Jewish (and can therefore be turned away from Judaism), but the child of a non-Jewish female spouse is not Jewish (and therefore turning away is not an issue).

Leviticus 24:10 speaks of the son of an Israelite woman and an Egyptian man as being “among the community of Israel” (ie, a Jew).

On the other hand, in Ezra 10:2-3, the Jews returning to Israel vowed to put aside their non-Jewish wives and the children born to those wives. They could not have put aside those children if those children were Jews.

All of my many Jewish ancestors are DNA proven of
North African and Middle Eastern descent. There is absolutely no question about that. A I Jewish, No, not yet. Because, It is a religion not a race. Did I have many Jewish ancestors, but, I have not decided to b “Jewish” yet.

“Mongolian spots are caused by entrapment of melanocytes in the dermis during their migration from the neural crest into the epidermis in fetal development. Microscopically dermal melanocytoses are seen in all newborn babies irrespective of race. Differences in the number of dermal melanocytes may cause the racial variation.”

I do know that many French Canadians are descended from Catherine Baillon, a Fille du Roi (Kings Daughters sent over to marry French men in Canada). Cathering Baillon came from a Noble family on the Ile de France and was a descendant of Charlesmagne whose mother was Jewish.

I do know that many French Canadians are descended from Catherine Baillon, a Fille du Roi (Kings Daughters sent over to marry French men in Canada). Catherine Baillon came from a Noble family on the Ile de France and was a descendant of Charlesmagne whose mother was Jewish.

I have read about the French Jews before & will cite one famous case I know about … Michel de Nostredame … more well known as the French prophet Nostrodamus … who described his psychic visions (example: KENNEDY assasinations) & published them cryptically in “quatrains” (4 line poems). One of the reasons he did this cryptically was so he would not suffer the consequeces of “heresy” against his new found (& forced) Catholic faith..

His family were Jews living in France who during the Inquisition had to “openly” convert to the Catholic faith for survival … though they & others may have continued to follow Jewish traditions in private.

Just as I have seen numerous French Canadian surnames get anglacized when they moved to the USA … Jewish names would have been made to sound more French when they moved to France.

Over the 250+ years descendants of these Jews living in France would surely have married people of French descent only (non-Jews), so I think French Canadians can safely assume that they DO still have a long heritage from France.

I think it is very interesting that some French people have a link to Jewish heritage … but just because someone has the LANDRY surname (for example) you cannot then assume that he is of Jewish descent.

The LANDRY surname may have been found in the Inquisition lists … but that does not mean that a descendant of the Jewish LANDRY was the ONE that emigrated to North-America. The ONE emigrant could also have been a LANDRY with only french heritage. Only thorough genealogical research will provide the necessary link.

I have learned this because I have seen many examples of Americans who mistakenly have linked to the wrong French Canadian tree … simply because the surname was the same.

This kind of research will be very difficult for a number of reasons. One is that very limited documents are existant for 1300-1700 period. I also think that the families involved would historically have kept quiet about their link to Jewish heritage, so that they would more easily be accepted in their French community. I base this on the historical examples I have come across where those of Native Indian ancestry displayed this behaviour so that they would more easily be accepted in the white man’s communities. There are also many examples among those of a mixed African-American descent who could pass as white, & would not disclose their mixed background to their descendants.

The “stain” is not enough proof of a Jewish heritage, given that it is also found in such high numbers among Asians, East-Africans, Hispanics, Native-Indian-Americans … & is even found in low numbers among Caucasians.

Alright I’m going to be truthful here. J2 dna is from neolithic farmers that came over from the middle east to europe about 10,000 years ago. Italians lots of med sea people are j2. just because it says j does not mean it is jewish dna. as for if europe is relted to a handful of jewish folks well just a few jews who left judaism 1000 years ago would make a very large portion of europe related to them. i wont get into how you do not understand 2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2 each generation minus area constraints but truly race does not matter. Who wants to be a part of a people who are members of a religious cult just like all other religions. spielberg created this wannabe jew mess with his movies which people cannot emotionally handle without breaking.

How in the world did you get this information about charlemagne having a jewish mother? it would be more widely known. i looked it up on google and didnt find anything.catherine baillon though there is a book connecting her to charlemagne but it could be similar to the tombs of the patriachs in israel just not real.

Came across this site doing my family tree and being of Acadian decent the subject here intrigues me. But some questions come to mind.

1)I’d like to know how do we go about finding out if there’s truth to it? (b)is there anybody doing some harcore reserch? Cuz so far all there is on the subject is a women with a perma rash.

2)(a)Can we trust DNA testing, (b) and if we can, what if i’m not of Levite ancestry can DNA still “prove” Hebrew lineage.

3)Are the Inquisition list accurate when they list people as jews or are they just labeling them Jews in order to persecute them?

4)(a)Who has this list and (b) how do I go about getting an authentic copy? Since two names in my family tree are on it (Leveque and Larocque)

5) Even if they hide that they were Jews would they not have keeped certain traditions like eating kosher foods and performing circumcision?

5)Would parents not share there secret with there children, in order for them to keep the faith(unless of course they were Masianic Jews)?

7)How about airloomes?

8) Did the website offering DNA test created this Ideal just to created buisness for themselve, Like Mormons trying to prove natives are of Jewish decent so they can create evidence to prove the stories in the Book of Mormons?

9) IF at all true how do I got about claimming my heritage.

What I do find interesting is the common deseases Safaric Jews and Acadians have in common. Well I think thats all.

Been digging deeper into this personally. I’m not out to try to prove this to anyone, just answering my own personal questions regarding my heritage. Things that I’ve always accepted as uniquely Cajun upon closer examination appear quite Jewish. A couple of examples: 1. The proximity in dates and the similarity in celebration between Mardi Gras and Purim 2. The proximity in dates and the similiarities between the Cajun Festival of Bonfires and Chanukkah. (The Cajun version used to also involve children going door to door with paper bags to collect candy). I have also found many shared superstitions and traditions between the two cultures. Such as not sweeping dirt out the door… (perhaps carried over from respect for the mezzuzah) emptying all water out of a house when a person dies, lighting candles on Friday nights, to name a couple. The Cajun culture, is unique with unique music, dance and language. Their French is a unique dialect, similar in its oddity to Ladino in comparision to Spanish. Interestingly, I have found many intersting similarities in the Sephardics in New Mexico, of whom many are finding that they are of Jewish descent. The two cultures also typically practise a very unique non-traditional form of Catholicism. Like any other case without concrete evidence, at this point, it can neither be proven beyond doubt nor dismissed altogether. Either the similarities are merely coincidental, or the Cajuns (after enduring repeated episodes of exile, persecution, fear and torment) went into hiding in plain site under cover of the Catholic religion. They found interesting ways to pass on some of the traditions. Fear would have motivated them to protect their families, as has happened throughout history with forced conversions. The Cajuns did much to preserve their unique culture through those years, many families from the exile marrying. This journey has been very exciting and insightful for me. The best things that I have learned are spiritual. Life is so much deeper than we know. Baruch Hashem!

Yes we are….Yest we are…Yes we are Jewish indeed. From the Tribe of Yehudah (Judah, House of David). Many of us are now doing their DNA through FamilyTree.com... … Do not go elshwhere as he is doing it for “us” Jews. Letters keep flowing in from all over the Americas, not only finding out they are Jewish, but that they are related to me…an Acadian from New Brunswick (these people are from Cuba, Puerto Rico, Mexico, etc etc) My cousin went elsewhere only to hit a dead end. Like I say…Do not go to an eye doctor for grastro intestinal problems.

I wrote this article almost 8 years ago and never came back to add to some of my findings. Some readers were just too plain ignorant and insulting, so I gave up….but never gave up being Jewish. That’s who we are and prophetically speaking, GOD of Israel is gathering back His people.

I was recently researching in Spain and my travel agent there was named Isabella Guitar. Such an Acadian surname. WOW! I kept her business card (Jambo Travel)

Should you join Family Tree, do ask to join the @bank of relatives@ and that’s how you will find out that you’re relatives are ALL Hispanics.

You can all write me at same e-mail address for more info. jackie.bourque at sympatico.ca

Landry is Landau in Hebrew;
Lemieux is Good or Goodman….it can also fall into the category of Labonte.

You must be “branded ” with the Semitic Stain?
I have found that only people from the House of David have this mark.
I have seen it on a Scottish/Irish lady called GAVIN.
Well, Gavin is Gauvin in French. I dont’t have the Hebrew translation on this one, like Drinkwine (in USA) is Boisvin.

My mother’s mother was an Acadian from New Brunswick. 100 years after she was born, I converted to Judaism. So some of her great-grandchildren and now great-great-grandchildren are Chassidim! Are the “holy sparks” returning to their Source?

Our background has Bourques, Gallants, Doucets, LeBlancs, and Landrys among many others.

Indeed, it is Hashem’s HOLY SPARK that is beckoning us to return to our roots. We are indeed related because I have all those surnames in my family tree. Doucet is the French version for Zucker or Zuckerman, or Sweet/Sweetman, Sugar/Sugarman.

I am also converted, but am Messianic (although I attend an Orthodox synagogue). I don’t prone Him around (you know the end result) but He is indeed our Jewish Messiah, soon to return to Yerushalayim.

Your surname Cardinal was one of the first families to arrive here on the “SACRIFICE D’ABRAHAM”…. You will need a brother or father (if poss) to have their DNA done at: FamilyTree.com...
Ask for the package to determine your J2 Hapo (meaning: Levite/Cohanim)
Don’t give up and do keep us informed.

hello jackie!!!….i have to say u r right…i have figured out the same thing totally independently ….i was searching for genetic medical info….kept finding all these jewish diseases in my french acadian background…i am writing a book on this…we must talk…i could not access your links re dna testing????…..thank u for this work!!!…:))kat

Shalom Kat…Sorry that I am 3 years late in answering your letter ;O( You did have my email address, and that is the best way to find me. Most people here are mockers and scoffers therefore I don’t write here anymore but I am pleased to see that many ar still searching for their Jewish roots.

Should you want to reach me by telephone or Skype, do write me at the addresses given above.

Regarding the relevancy of bloodlines,
Each and every Othodox I have encountered
has inquired as to my Mothers heritage. All
of them. Perhaps as many as 30 individuals.
Thus, Maternal Jewish heritage Is relevant
and acknowledged in Orthodox Judaism in any case.
(If you have been raised by an alpha-minded strong
willed Jewish mother, you are deserving of Some
recognition, you know who you are…)

I am not judging the appropriateness or
inappropriateness of this practice, just
providing an anecdotal reference. Through Kosher
dietary living, (at least abstaining from pork and
shellfish,) and honoring the ten commandments,
(as best as possible, even if Jewish parents
are not practicing Jews, not Kosher, and, as
often as not, Pagans…Non-practicing Jews tend to be
Pagans rather than Christians especially if they are not
practicing a Kosher diet and honoring A sabbat day…Preferably Saturday, but Saturday And Sunday is even better…)

Honoring Dad and Mom in this circumstance is difficult
at best, especially with pagan siblings of different
(gentile,) mothers…Anyway, Not Condemning parents,
helping when they have strong needs, and becoming
a better citizen are all ways to honor Dad and Mom,
even if they are deliberately dishonoring their ‘temple’
with ‘unclean’ foods and behavior, and others
with ‘unclean’ speech and behavior…One can evangelize
only so much to one’s own parents…

Better to simply
be an example of Godliness-Apart from them…Write a
letter once per year for Dad and Moms day…If they
are very unhealthy, return to help them…Give some
money if you have A Lot Extra and they are destitute…
Otherwise, allow the other siblings, who choose such
paganism, to provide for their wayward parent…Your
Relationship with G..d will suffer if you attempt to
be ‘friends’ because the parent is deliberatly disobeying
G..d, especially if you have provided an example to
the contrary and they continue to resist…Protect
yourself…Remember the incident under the shadow of
Mt. Sinai a few thousand years ago with Moses and the
hard hearted children of Israel and the Golden Calf…?
Quite an Uncivil War…Families fought families…
This was the Ultimate Litmus Test. And, unfortunately
necessary to re-establish the Covenant…

If you can identify with this profile, your conflict
is primarily of the spiritual, (and physical, you Will be judged for remaining Kosher among your siblings, (and non Kosher friends sometimes…) do not dispair, G..d
knows your heart, you Will have redemption…spiritually and Physically…It is So Much Healthier to Be Kosher…Thank
G..d for the Old Testament!!!

I still affirm that those
of Jewish blood have a Physical Allergy to Non-Kosher foods, such that they will not be as healthy or cognitively
flexible while consuming such foods…Though even gentiles
would benefit from abstainance of such products, if they so chose…It is Strange how some Christians and Pagans can become so incenced when confronted
with a dedicated Kosher practitioner, (not necessarily the rabbinic blessed requirements, either, just abstaining from pork and shellfish…) seriously, even Full On Vegetarians seem to recieve more tolerance, strange…Anyway, YWHA Blessings.

I got an ancestry by DNA test. I am Acadian. I originally dismissed this theory but not only did I come up with postive Jewish DNA, but also my uncle has the Y chromosome J-P58 which is the Kohanim marker.

BARUCH HASHEM forever…
You’re input is uplifting.
Can you please inscribe your surname here, along with ancesters?
I would strenghten my research and appease minds of those who are
adamantly anti-Jewish – thanks to the Roman church who made us hate
Jews and calling them Christ killers.

Once we find out who we really are, then we must do something about it.
GOD is bringing His FAMILY together in these Final Times we are in.
I find the Ashkenazi Jews are the ones giving us such difficulty. That’s just
my opinion. It’s jealousy – like the Prodical Son returning home, his brother
started being jealous because the father put a gold ring on his finger, gave
him the best dress and called for the best piece of meat to be put on the pit
for a dinner, inviting all the community to come and celebrate.

GOD of Avraham/Isaac/Jacob is doing the same today – calling us back into
His House. Be proud and return to the GOD of our ancestors. Become Kosher
is the ultimate – and observing the Appointed Times of the LORD (Festivals) is
most pleasing to the Father. Festivals give us the clear understanding that
Yeshua (Jesus is pseudonym given by Greeks haters) is fulfilling all those Festivals.
GOD IS GREAT, AND GREATLY TO BE PRAISED.

Just discovered a French-Canadian ancestor named Julia Marie Moses (married name Tromblay) whose father was Henri Moise. (Moise being French for Moses of course). Does this sound Jewish, or am I jumping to conclusions? I’ve suspected for a while cause my dad really looks like Jeff Goldblum or Lou Reed.

My name is Gary Bourque I am a first cousin of Jackie Bourque. I have had a paternal 46 marker dna test done by Ancestry in 2009. Jackie, I believe had an 11 marker maternal dna test completed by Family Tree.
When Jackie first told me about having dna that would show we were of Jewish ancestry, I set out to find the evidence that would prove this claim. I was not able to find anything that would suggest this. In fact I so far I have found that the very things I have heard since childhood would appear to be correct. My father and Uncles, including Jackieâ€™s father an Aunt and Great Uncles have told me and other family members, as long as I can remember that we were of a Germanic back ground. I have traced our pedigree back to Simon Bourg 1576 in Martaize, France. His son, the first settler Antoine Bourg came to Port Royal Acadia in 1634. The name through are line was changed from Bourg to Bourque by our Great, Great Grandfather Joseph Bourque in 1835. His fatherâ€™s name was Pierre Bourg.
The first place I confirmed what I have been told is written in our family coat of arms.
The link is: users.eastlink.ca/~bellneck/bourque/COAEnglish.html
If you care to, check it out.
Our name Bourque/Bourg was originally Burg. The Burgâ€™s are traced back to Northern Germany. Here is a document submitted to me by my Uncle Roger Bourque.
â€¢ The French surname Bourque is an orthographical variant of the more well-known Burg. The name Burg means â€œstronghold or castleâ€, thus the original bearer of the name lived in or near this particular feature. They were of ancient Teutonic people originally from Northern Germany who later migrated to Eastern France in the fifth century thereby settling on the fertile area of the Rhone Valley. They were converted to Christianity and adopted the Roman culture of the Gauls of that area. In the eleventh century, the name Burg was found in England as the result of the â€œNorman Invasionâ€ when France landed on English soil. There the name was spelled Burk. In France, they were followers of the â€œDuke of Burgundyâ€ and under the power of King Charles VII in the fifteenth century. Later, the name was also known as Bourg in France. Some migrated to Ireland where it was known as Burke. In the seventeenth century it changed from Bourg to Bourque when settled in Canada. P.S. Franceâ€™s famous wine, Burgundy was first produced by the Burg family.
I am always collecting info on our ancestry and will record anything I can substantiate.
I would like to add that I am a Christian who believes the Jewish people are a chosen people of God and God almighty will be glorified through the nation of Israel. I pray for the peace and blessing Israel daily. I am not out to criticize Jackieâ€™s findings. Perhaps itâ€™s in her maternal lineage from her mother. Iâ€™m not sure what a maternal dna test would reveal about your ancestry.
Thank you,
Gary Bourque

If the French-Canadians have some Ashkenazi Jewish heritage, that would not only be wonderfully interesting, it would also make the Tay-Sachs link simpler (my biology-class days simply explained it as something that developed in both groups because both are astonishingly “coherent” genetic groups, that rarely married out for a long time, and both were exposed to specific health issues.)

But, intellectually, it’s hard to imagine that ALL French Canadians are mostly Jewish, genetically. What we know of the great exodus (as well as geneology) doesn’t really support the idea.
My husband and I are both French Canadian (Quebecois, though he is partly Acadian) and our families have traced their geneology back well beyond the point of emmigration. Neither of us had ancestors from the South of France, as far as we can tell– it’s all very Northern. (In my case, around the year 900, they actually came into France from Finland. )
So for us, at least, any Jewish ethnicity is probably very remote.
(too bad. What fun!)

I’m also a little confused about the idea that Sephardic Jews fleeing the Inquisition would cover their tracks by changing their names AND converting to Catholicism…
after all, the main thing the Inquisition was doing to Jews was trying to forcibly convert them to Catholicism.
And if someone converted, the pressure was largely off…
Several famed Spanish Catholic saints, people who were highly regarded, well educated, of affluent families and very influential in their day, were the children, grandchildren or great-grandchildren of Jews who had converted.

So, why the fleeing AND conversion?
Wouldn’t the whole point of fleeing be an act of devotion to their Jewish faith and heritage?
If someone was going to abandon their Jewish identity and faith, to me it would seem safer and easier to at least stay in their home and maintain whatever roots and wealth they might have, rather than travel many miles and start over from scratch in a foreign country, especially at a time when travel was so dangerous.
Besides, France as a nation was scarely famous for being less antisemitic than Spain!! The Rabbi of Toulouse was burned at the stake for his association with a Christian convert! Around the year 1400, the French Jews were entirely deported, and when they began re-entering in the 1600’s there was a violent antisemitic reaction. The crown repeatedly used them as an exploitable resource with few rights.

Can someone please help me to understand?
Why would fleeing Sephardic Jews settle in France and convert?

Curious; Have you even bothered to question why we, the Acadians and French Québecois cannot go beyond Year 1500 regarding our genealogies? Does this ring a bell?

I find that you ask a question then give your own answers. Of course Jews were forced into conversion! That has always been the Roman Catholic issue. So then, if France was so lenient with our ancestors who all lived bordering Northern Spain (into Southern France), I invite you to read some history books about the Spanish Jews living in Southern France where our people were kept in ghettos, had difficulty finding jobs, and when they did work, were overtaxed because after all, we were dirty Jews.

You wonder why Jews were fleeing the INQUISITION? Sure looks like you know much about the tortures our people suffered, just for being Jewish. Google it.

Lastly, you can dare to have your DNA done through familytree.com... This Lab specializes in our DNA Jewish ID. I have found that people who do not want this truth are not accepting historical facts. For me personally, my uncle (Acadian maternal side) had his geneology done and found that the DeGrace family came from Majorca Spain. What a coincidence eh?

Women cannot prove their J2 Haplo, but men can. Also, I have a list of French Quebec surnames that came into Quebec that were hunted down by LE SAINT OFFICE (HOLY OFFICE OF ROME)… I also have a boat called LE SACRIFICE D’ABRAHAM that was filled with Jews arriving from France.

A French and English surname, Landry came from the Old German term of ‘landric’ which means a powerful land ruler. The spelling variations for Landry include Lendry, Lynderey, Landre, Landri, Landro and L’andre. In France the more common spelling forms are Landron and Landrin. In France the Landry family name is the second oldest surname in the country. The name is mostly concentrated in the province of Poitou. There are many with the Landry surname in Canada. In England the Landry family names is primarily in the city of London, Cornwall, Somerset, Hampshire, Essex, Kent, Middlesex, Cambridgeshire, Staffordshire and Lancashire counties. Within the United States the Landry family name is very popular in Louisiana and Massachusetts. It is found in most of the other states, but not in high numbers. Famous: Thomas Wade Landry (professional football player and later coach), Carl Landry (professional basketball), Ali Landry (actress and fashion model), Dan Landry (champion volleyball player), Bernard Landry (premier of Quebec, Canada) and LaRon Landry (professional football player).familytree.com...

Geoffrey IV de la Tour Landry (c. 1320 – 1391) was a nobleman of Anjou who compiled Livre pour l’enseignement de ses filles for the instruction of his daughters, in 1371–1372. A similar book he had previously written for his sons, according to his opening text, has disappeared. The work became the most popular educational treatise of the Late Middle Ages. It was translated into German, as Der Ritter vom Turn, and at least twice into English, once by William Caxton, who printed it as The Book of the Knight of the Tower in 1483.[1]en.wikipedia.o...

Landry of Sées (Landericus) was a French saint and bishop. The earliest record found of a person named Landry was in the 5th Century ca. 450 in the person of St. Landry, third Bishop of Sées who died on March 4, 480 and whose feast day is July 16.

Landry was the successor of Saint Sigibold, himself successor of Saint Latrium (Latuinus, Lain, or Latuin), first occupant of the episcopal see (from 400 to 440). He lived in great sanctity and was responsible for great progress of Christianity in his diocese.

It appears that this was done in spite of great resistance, because in his legend, it is said that he was placed in a barrel filled with flax combs and rolled from the top to the bottom of a mountain. Nevertheless, this fact is not ascertained and he died at a great age on March 4, 480, in the arms of Saint Contest, Bishop of Bayeux, who happened to be in Seez at the time.en.wikipedia.o...

BTW
I have French Louisianian/Canadian ancestry on my African American father’s side.
He was born in New Orleans, Louisiana.
Both his parents were born in Louisiana.

I genetically match with people with French Louisianian/Canadian ancestry.

I have a so-called Cryto-Jewish name and a so-called crypto-Jewish Y-chromosome. Am I a Jew? No. I am not of the Jewish faith nor am I of Jewish “race”, whatever that means in a world where Jews and Goyim have converted back and forth for 4,000 years or more. My so-called Jewish Y chromosome seems to have originated in North Africa roughly 5400 years ago, before the Jewish religion came together in the Holy Land. My French name originated in Paris in the early 1400s and refers to a trade (butchering) that is older than the first villages.

In short, Y chromosomes and surnames are very feeble evidence. The Inquisition may be looking for Bouchers but it isn’t necessarily looking for my ancestors because they were named boucher before Jews adopted the name as a cover.

As for “Jew marks”, this is medieval superstition of the same sort that misleads people into believing they have been abducted by aliens. Everybody has some sort of birthmarks, wounds, scars, or spots on their body somewhere. Witch hunters used to identify these as “witchmarks”, Jew-baiters as “Jew marks” and now they are alien abductee marks.

They are far too common to be anything but ordinary accidents of birth or skin damage. If they change colour and size see a doctor because then they are skin cancer marks.

I do have some Jewish ancestors, of course, and probably crypto-Jewish ancestors as well, not to mention crypto-Huguenots and even crypto-Muslims. My family tree is enormous. I have everything you can imagine from Saints to ax-murderers. Fortunately they are not close relations or direct ancestors.

As for Tay Sachs disease, I doubt if the prevelence in the French Canadian population is related to the prevalence in the Jewish populations. There are some small communities in Quebec where inbreeding has caused a number of rare conditions to pop up in greater than expected numbers. This is probably the proximate cause of this and other rare maladies. Of course the mutated genes may have passed through Jews in the last few thousands years. But that would be impossible to trace more than a ten or twenty generations back.

My Jewish great grandfather is 33 generations back and most of the rest of my known Jewish ancestors are even further back. In fact, some of them are mentioned by name in the Bible as well as contemporary historical records.

I am Gary Bourque first cousin to Jackie Bourque (Bourg). I have the family tree mapped out to 1576. I have had a 46 marker DNA test. Nothing in all of my research confirms my first cousins claims. As a matter of fact Jackie found out through my family tree study that our name was changed to Bourque from Bourg 1835 in which Jackie has changed her last name to. It’s the only part of an extensive family study including DNA the she will accept. According to her whole family her hypothesis is all fiction based on a birth mark. Oye Vey !!!!

Since the Jews have been pretending to be other people with fake names for centuries if not millennia, believing them about anything is risky business. Ashkenazi Jews are nothing more than people originally from Turkey who adopted a farcical religion. Sephardic Jews are from Spain. No tribe of Jews came from Palestine and the nation of Israel is a fraud. The only land they should have been given was in the Vatican since the Jews were from Rome, not the fantasy of Palestine.
I would definitely accept the French Acadians as being of Jewish origin especially with their secret language of Cajun French just like the secret Yiddish language. They always seem to have a need to be able to speak amongst themselves in a separate made up language.

I totally give up. this is the craziest thread.
You can’t base your research on “feelings” or “intuition”. Even if there’s a demonstrable proof of LINEAGE, meaning – RECORDS, what’s the meaning of a ‘jewish gene’ or ‘genes’? Such can even be argued as being racist in itself. Wouldn’t it be lovely for hate groups to be able to force their members to spit in cups to prove that none of them are ‘stained’ with the ‘jewish genes’???

Ugh. Judaism to me is a PRACTICE, a religious discipline, REGARDLESS of your bloody genetic ancestry. You’re not “more” or “less” Jewish because of your genes! Haplogroups, specific polymorphisms, although interesting, prove nothing. Founder populations around the world have a means of concentrating unusual mutations simply because they are restricted pools of genetic recombination. That’s all!

Ok – so after having done a DNA test a few years ago through Ancestry and it showing that I am of Acadian descent, I am a little embarrassed to say that I just started looking into what that really meant. What prompted me was that I am adopted and I was having DNA matches that would match people in both my maternal AND paternal side BOTH. Weird. Why? Because I am unique. I am the only one that has both my biological mom and dad. Everyone else is a half sibling. My bio parents weren’t married and the relationship was brief. I didn’t even know who my bio dad was until I really looked at my matches and realized that close match was really a half sister. So I couldn’t figure out where the cross over was. Come to find out, it is in my Acadian roots via Daniel LeBlanc. Just google him, he’s pretty well recorded. He had two sons (of many) and one son leads to a branch in my bio mom’s family and one leads to a branch in my bio dad’s family. Crazy! But helps explain why some of my distant cousins are a DNA match. Anyway, I say all of this because not any part of my DNA revealed that I have any Jewish in me whatsoever. Lots of Irish/Scottish/Wales and various parts of Europe mostly – . Some of my distant cousins have trace amounts of European Jews but nothing remarkable. I have several Acadian families in both sides as they married and had kids and their kids had kids and then they got kicked out and then went back. I even have 6 descendants from the Mayflower and prominent New England families (like families that started towns and have places and waterways named after them and entire books written about them along with the genealogy). It distresses me to no end that I perhaps have ancestors that booted my Acadian ancestors out of their homes and burned their homes and buildings. But no Jewish DNA. So I’m not sure I buy that the Acadians are from a lost tribe. Yes, there have to be some who ended up there fleeing persecution and converted to keep it a secret. That’s not a unique situation though. My biggest surprise was Europe South – 13%.

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