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This is the difference between the hard Left & hard Right: you can be a violent leftist radical and go on to live a pretty kickass life. This is especially true if you’re a leftist of the credentialed class …

(The whole article is strongly recommended, for topicality among other qualities.)

ADDED: Yeah: in 1971, you could get in a gunfight with cops, shoot a cop, be carrying a gun stolen during a different state’s double cop murder — and get out of prison in less than a year!

I guess you didn’t see the AntiFa Tweet this morning wailing “fuck you //pol” over their arrests, that they didn’t get away with it this time, that hundreds of them were arrested and now have court dates, that they’re facing 10 years for felony rioting….and most important that young people are walking away as now shit got real.

Wrong! He needs to feed the left a steady stream of pointless outrage. I’m waiting for the Protect American Hearing Act which makes suppressors (“silencers”) great again. I can’t wait for the lefty meltdown when that comes up for a vote. It should create enough cover to pass some hardcore executive orders.

And when the Supreme Court rules that he can’t fire them? And the media denounces Trump’s attempt as “criminal tyrrany”, and calls on the #NeverTrumpers and other cuckservatives in Congress to “cross the aisle” in using it as the grounds to impeach him?

Well, the only people who can impeach the Supreme Court are Congress (and they couldn’t get rid of Samuel Chase), so you’d need to reverse your order their and “bully Congress into submission”. Only, by what mechanism do you do that. And as for “presidential pardons”, are you familiar with Water Margin, especially Chai Jin and his red-inked iron certificate (danshu tiequan)? A presidential pardon, or more accurately the promise of one, does not make you immune to bullets, cruise missiles, or Predator drones. And what good is a promise to issue pardons from a president who gets impeached and removed before he can in fact issue them?

Erik Reply:January 27th, 2017 at 8:14 am

You bully Congress into submission with whatever tool is appropriate between mean Tweets and RWDS. Alternatively you go straight to having the RWDS remove dissenting judges and reporters, with pardons afterwards. I’m familiar with Chai Jin’s plate, but I don’t see how it comes into play – in this hypothetical Trump is the one with both the drones and the pardons.

I’m aware it’s an absurd scenario, but so I think is yours of Congress suddenly finding the spine to attempt to impeach Trump.

michael Reply:January 26th, 2017 at 7:44 pm

As fun as it is to anthropomorphize Trump I wish there were more evidence he has an IQ over 90 than my wishing it. So far I see some of the things he says and does interpreted very generously as him being a cross between Machiavelli and Schwarzenegger, But just as much of what he does in fact the stuff we know its actually him doing it tweets and speeches he comes off as the same buffoon I have known for 30 years. I suppose we shall know soon enough if hes being managed or rather not managed it will spill out. It would so great if its for real.

The Media justifying hits on the Right would have the effect of Baghdad Bob.

We’re waiting for the Left to start war. When you have numbers, veterans, The People Armed, shared values and loyalty to Trump of the Police and Military less Institutional Support isn’t a fatal handicap.

Although indeed the post reads as a to do list for the Right and his advice should be taken.

Not really, and not for much longer with demographic trends and all the Latin American helots they can import

“veterans,”

under surveillance by Homeland Security looking for the first sign of organization

“The People Armed,”

With weapons mostly useless in real modern warfare (“effective” only for proxies of the State Department in their war on the Pentagon). If semi-auto civilians arms really were effective against stealth bombers, tanks, cruise missiles, and Predator drones, if “2nd Amendment remedies” were really possible, then the Left wouldn’t have ceded the ground they have on gun control.

“shared values”

Does the Right really have as much common values and fanaticism about them as the left does in hating the “Badwhites”?

“and loyalty to Trump of the Police and Military”

I very much question this; the bottom rank-and-file may be “loyal” to Trump, but they’re ultimately order-followers, tools in the hands of their commanders. (No soldier ever advanced their career by defying an “unlawful” order.) It’s the officers whose loyalty matter, and it looks to me like anymore, they pretty much belong to the Left.

You should not be waiting for the Left to start war, because they’ll win it.

Not really, and not for much longer with demographic trends and all the Latin American helots they can import

white males are worth 10-20 muds

under surveillance by Homeland Security looking for the first sign of organization

not true and DHS is going to be purged.When a cop stops me and asks if Im armed and I say I am he asks me to stay in the car then thanks me for being armed.

With weapons mostly useless in real modern warfare (“effective” only for proxies of the State Department in their war on the Pentagon). If semi-auto civilians arms really were effective against stealth bombers, tanks, cruise missiles, and Predator drones, if “2nd Amendment remedies” were really possible, then the Left wouldn’t have ceded the ground they have on gun control.

youre thinking about this wrong Cathedral is terrified a war might start, unless they can extinguish it in hours as a criminal issue they are fucked.Not only is it illegal to use soldiers against citizens the soldiers simply would not obey. But its worse if they were stupid enough to use military personal and weapons the moment a innocent was killed you would have a nationwide uprising, Even in Iraq they can not contain a war imagine them trying to launch drone strikes on our highways

Does the Right really have as much common values and fanaticism about them as the left does in hating the “Badwhites”?

well we have the bad leftys. But this is actually another reason they dont want to risk a war once they let a situation spiral to what was perceived to be a civil war, which means they cant stop it immediately. then the fact that the joiners all will have different agendas works against the USG they are then fighting wack a moles who dont even know each other

I very much question this; the bottom rank-and-file may be “loyal” to Trump, but they’re ultimately order-followers, tools in the hands of their commanders. (No soldier ever advanced their career by defying an “unlawful” order.) It’s the officers whose loyalty matter, and it looks to me like anymore, they pretty much belong to the Left.

The article reads like revisionism to curry favour with the current ideological climate. Much of what is written about Davis is nonsense. She didn’t escape prison because of some left wing conspiracy. She was clearly innocent despite the full weight of the establishment attempting to impose the death sentence on her twice.
With such obvious false truths in the article, the polemic which may indeed have some redeemable attributes becomes unconvincing at best.
This is all integrated spectacular power. The left right divide is a dangerous and stupid trap where thought becomes merely ‘virtually perceived’ at the behest of what ideological perspective one us currently subscribed to

Its a mistake to retroactively lay rules over what was essentially chaos after the fact. I mean the 60s not what came before the 60s or afterwards.

1.Radicalism can come from anywhere. The Weathermen weren’t oppressed, or poor, or anything like that. They were hard leftists. That’s it.
2.Sustained political violence is dependent on the willing cooperation of admirers and accomplices. The Left has these. The Right does not.
3.Not a violent issue, but a political one: ethnic issues involving access to power can both empower and derail radical movements.

1.Radicalism can perhaps come from anywhere, whats important is under what conditions can it take root.
60s radicalism was planted by communist operatives sponsored by the soviet state. An intellectual and organizational framework had been built over the preceding 60 years. White cogelites flocking to Americas cities and Universities had for decades been met by mostly jewish or jewish influenced radicals communist intellectuals. By the 60s they practically owned the arts, media, academy, and democratic party. This radical left infrastructure had cleverly taken advantage of many sea changes in the social fabric. The rise of the great industrialists and the transition from agrarian to industrial models, that impact on labor. Massive immigration to the USA. The disintegration of slavery serfdom and colonialism and several massive wars fought to as a result. The rise of American hegemony, and the material wealth that went along with this, and this wealths softening of the generation by the 60s.The failure of blacks to rise to the occasion of their emancipation. The early radicals clearly were thinking much more strategically about fururism,the frame of these events,incrementalist march through institutions etc. They also were incredibly lucky, and had history on their side.

I should mention here post 60s the left went from having major influence in the halls of power sometime only surreptitiously to a march through ,being able to purge them and demand loyalty tests.This was because they then had the manpower.

In short the ground had been carefully prepared for decades, The seeds had been genetically engineered, it rained good and hard, and the farmers were careful.In a sense leftism was bound to happen, developments made keeping 95% of the worlds population in some form of bondage no longer possible nor preferable, and that was bound to have consequences. In hindsight it may be possible to imagine a better transition in reality we probably got off pretty lightly.

2. The left had co conspirators because they planned,The left started from slavery they had to move slow and carefully, by the time the 60s roll around middle class boomer kids were spoiled rotten looking for meaning and the left easilly radicalized these naive kids.But because the left had been at this for a couple hundred years by some measures they had an infrastructure built under harsh conditions, and they had a pretty horrible history of the world to contrast against these spoiled kids white privilege, in other words the left had the moral high ground. YES of course they were cherry picking history and using all sorts of rhetorical sleights of hand to make the case, but the right was doing all they could to bolster the lefts case that anyone not a radical leftist was a slaveholding babykiller. Success bred success, the lefts gains looked like vindications, again lots of sleight of hand very short track records and they controlled the frame with the cathedral but what the public thought they saw was things being put right by the left and they increasingly supported and trusted the left. It took decades for the reality to emerge, by then they owned the joint. There is no reason to think once the tables are turned the right will not enjoy similar advantages that go with the moral high ground and being on the side of history.

3.Yeah “Race is All” Whites had to give up on economic socialism it was a poor sale in wealthy western states and it had collapsed the economies of those that persisted spectacularly, meanwhile racial redistribution was selling well.Here we see how the left was also incredibly lucky, racial [and other victim class] redistributionism takes socialism from a self interest movement to an altruistic movement. A religion its much harder to fight a religion. self interested socialism can be combated with equally strong human instincts like, fairness, ones own interests. But a psuedo christian religion is hard to combat in an incredibly wealthy secure and religious nation. All that was need was a more sympathetic other than the common negro, or at least ways to diffuse the increasingly obvious hopelessness of the negro.

The problem for the left is we are no longer wealthy or secure, their early experiments are all well documented failures and the cause of our insecurity and debt.,And they have run out of new causes so use their propaganda machine for tranny toddlers,ethical pedophiles,terrorists, enforcement ever more bizarre shit tests,and ethnic suicide by truly massive third world immigration administered by increasingly evil carpet baggers and their wealthy jewish sponsors.This continues to ruin the brand of the cathedral propaganda outlets at the same time they are facing technical challenges to their hegemony. A few years ago they didnt care they were so close to a one world police state they could taste it, but their luck began to run out. China and Russia teamed up and took advantage of their rough triangles and roughshod methods. Events overtook their decreasing ability to maintain the frame, then the Donald emerged and was able to give voice to the white rage that had been bubbling under the surface.

Its impossible to know how things might go,The left if Clinton had one was moving to outlaw speech and control the internet. and was gearing up to exploit the imminent financial collapse to institute martial law. That all on hold now. We might not even collapse, Trump or someone in his camp might actually get the cathedral model the left threat and be orchestrating a carefully planned purge, or we could be reading too much into innocuous republican crap. The left may be going all in on a color revolution though that would be uncharacteristically stupid of them nothing could be better for the right than if they gave us the excuse to use force.But maybe the left cant control their Golem, or maybe they have decided as close as they were because history they are doomed unless they can pull of a coup.

only specifically applies to the United States Army and, as amended in 1956, the United States Air Force. While the Act does not explicitly mention the United States Navy and the United States Marine Corps, the Department of the Navy has prescribed regulations that are generally construed to give the Act force with respect to those services as well. The Act does not apply to the Army National Guard and the Air National Guard under state authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within its home state or in an adjacent state if invited by that state’s governor.

Secondly, it has exceptions in the Enforcement Acts:

In the mid-20th century, the administration of President Dwight D. Eisenhower used an exception to the Posse Comitatus Act, derived from the Enforcement Acts, to send federal troops into Little Rock, Arkansas, during the 1957 school desegregation crisis. The Arkansas governor had opposed desegregation after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 1954 in the Brown v. Board of Education that segregated public schools were unconstitutional. The Enforcement Acts, among other powers, allow the President to call up military forces when state authorities are either unable or unwilling to suppress violence that is in opposition to the constitutional rights of the people.

Most important, though, is the exception of the Insurrection Act of 1807, “the set of laws that govern the ability of the President of the United States to deploy troops within the United States to put down lawlessness, insurrection and rebellion.”

The Posse Comitatus Act reads:

“Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both”.

(emphasis added)

And so:

Accordingly, actions taken under the Insurrection Act, as an “Act of Congress”, have always been exempt from the Posse Comitatus Act.

So it remains perfectly legal to use soldiers against citizens, when those citizens are engaging in “insurrection” or “rebellion”. And who gets to declare whether or not the people are in “rebellion”?

And the “failure” of our troops to stop the “muds” in Iraq (who are only worth 1/10 of our guys, you say?) is a matter of internal issues, not the technologies or strategies of war. Just as how in Vietnam our armed forces lost not to the NVA nor the Viet Cong but to the State Department and the leftist news media. If the parts of the permanent government outside the Pentagon had wanted us to win in the Middle East, we’d gone after Iraq like we did Germany or Japan, treated Baghdad like Dresden or Tokyo, and won.

Read Max Boot’s “Invisible Armies: An Epic History of Guerrilla Warfare from Ancient Times to the Present.” Guerrilla warfare loses far more often than it wins, and is something people resort to only when conventional warfare is out of reach. And of the cases where it does win, there are certain common factors always present, namely, that it is:
1.) Against a clearly foreign occupier/invader
2.) Has folks sympathetic to it within the power structure of the enemy (ex. Edmund Burke and Lord Howe for the American Revolution, the communists and sympathizers in the State Dept. for Vietnam.)
3.) And has significant foreign aid.
And it has never worked in a civil war. The “Age of the Gun” has actually been over for some time.

WRONG WRONG as you pont out the national guard is under the states authority, these are essentially militias who are part time they are never going to be deployed against their neighbors by their own Governor. No thanks not reading jew neocons veiled threat against badwhites.
But if you follow the actually argument rather than your straw man no one is suggesting muh militia will take to the woods against blackhawk down, its suggested that anything that remotely rises beyond crime /terror law enforcement is by definition a wild fire out of control and the stupidest thing USG could do would be to use the armed forces. Because A] the armed forces even unleashed as they are in iraq cant get the job done, imagine what the collateral damage would play like in Ohio. B] the troops would simply refuse or if it got to the point of real war defect.You are obviously no military they absolutely would not fight american under any fucking circumstances. The only way it get put out is with law enforcement and propaganda and that is going to have to be done ever so carefully.

“But if you follow the actually[sic] argument rather than your straw man no one is suggesting muh militia will take to the woods against blackhawk down[sic]”

Then what are you suggesting?

“the armed forces even unleashed as they are in iraq[sic] cant[sic] get the job done”

Do you really, honestly think that the Armed Forces have been “unleashed” in Iraq? That our men are doing their absolute best and still can’t “get the job done” against poorly-armed, poorly-equipped, poorly-trained cousin-marrying camel-jockies? If so, then you paint a pretty sad picture of our military (and so much for your “white males are worth 10-20 muds”).

Or have our troops been anything but “unleashed”, and instead downright smothered under ridiculous RoEs practically designed to ensure they cannot truly win over an otherwise pathetic foe. And so restrained because there are large parts of our government who consider their real enemy to be not Muslim terrorists, but the Pentagon.

“the troops would simply refuse”

You mean like the troops under MacArthur refused to move against the veterans, women, and children of the “Bonus Army”?

“they absolutely would not fight american[sic] under any fucking circumstances.”

Again, like the troops under MacArthur would not fight their fellow Americans in the Bonus Army “under any fucking circumstances”?

Also, there’s this little punctuation mark called the “comma”. Look it up, you might want to learn how to use it. Not to mention brush up on grammar and the rules of capitalization in general, particularly such things as “proper nouns” and “run-on sentences” that it seems you might not have heard of before.

But in the 21st century, there is a good chance that most humans will lose, they are losing, their military and economic value. This is true for the military, it’s done, it’s over. The age of the masses is over. We are no longer in the First World War, where you take millions of soldiers, give each one a rifle and have them run forward.

And it’s like no one’s heard of the “Bonus Army“, “an assemblage of some 43,000 marchers—17,000 U.S. World War I veterans, their families, and affiliated groups—who gathered in Washington, D.C. in the summer of 1932 to demand cash-payment redemption of their service certificates.”

What happened to them?

President Herbert Hoover then ordered the Army to clear the veterans’ campsite. Army Chief of Staff General Douglas MacArthur commanded the infantry and cavalry supported by six tanks. The Bonus Army marchers with their wives and children were driven out, and their shelters and belongings burned.

Nobody here has brought forth another scenario: The so-called Cathedral or Left is not actually a vast, well-oiled, machine so much as a doddering mess that really rules through the apparent apathy of the productive citizenry as opposed to supreme force.

US been artificially kept on near equilibrium level for too long with natural resilience mechanisms washed away. your wish will be granted, soon we may see in real life how double transgression might looks like. this smelter smells like hell already.