291 Comments on this post:

"brrrk I have wonder why the GOP does not slap chief. He has an answer to everything."

If I did, I'd be slapped by the GOP AND the DNC as they make their living out of creating and then solving problems.

By:Blanketnazi2 on 9/4/09 at 12:13

"The Bible Belt is an article of clothing worn around one's neck, reducing much needed bloodflow to the brain cells."

By:gdiafante on 9/4/09 at 12:15

Here's an idea...teach the Bible in Church...where it belongs...unless you do want to study it as literature, in that case it would make a wonderful college elective.

By:Blanketnazi2 on 9/4/09 at 12:16

yeah, then you can get a BS in religion.

By:chiefpayne568 on 9/4/09 at 12:16

Gdia,

"Unfortunately, they're all wrong...or fortunately, depending on how you look at it."

Well, since you didn't think of them, you think they are all wrong.

Sorry to disappoint, but I am right.

By:chiefpayne568 on 9/4/09 at 12:19

Gdia,

"Here's an idea...teach the Bible in Church...where it belongs...unless you do want to study it as literature, in that case it would make a wonderful college elective."

Ok...cool. Then, leave the Koran in the mosque and the Torrah in the synagogue, and the theory of evolution with the Scientologists. All's fair.

By:Blanketnazi2 on 9/4/09 at 12:21

"the theory of evolution with the Scientologists."

wow, that's a really uninformed comment.

By:gdiafante on 9/4/09 at 12:22

Look at the source Blanket...lol

By:Blanketnazi2 on 9/4/09 at 12:24

By: gdiafante on 9/4/09 at 1:22
Look at the source Blanket...lol

yeah, seriously. i guess we shouldn't teach relativity or gravity either. heck, let's throw chemistry out the window too while we're at it.

By:gdiafante on 9/4/09 at 12:25

"Then, leave the Koran in the mosque and the Torrah in the synagogue, and the theory of evolution with the Scientologists. All's fair."

That's what it's really about...Christians are paranoid that children might reject their faith in favor of another.

And if they did, so what? Freedom of religion, right?

But keep all religion out of public schools. Done.

By:Blanketnazi2 on 9/4/09 at 12:25

those pesky scientists are always screwing everything up like telling kids the earth is round and has been around longer than 6,000 years. they still haven't figured out that it only took 7 days to make.

By:Kosh III on 9/4/09 at 12:27

chief said:
"I would like our country to go back to what we had in the beginning however...a more constitutionally correct country."

One with only white propertied males able to vote, the Indians and coloreds are only partially human and have little or no rights. Genocide of Indians is approved of and supported by Presidents(Jackson)
Great world there: now we know the real GOP agenda.

By:Blanketnazi2 on 9/4/09 at 12:33

In 1988, then-President Reagan spoke to students nationwide via C-SPAN telecast. Among other things, he talked about his positions on political issues of the day. Three years later, then-President Bush addressed school kids in a speech broadcast live to school classrooms nationwide. Among other things, he promoted his own administration's education policies.

President Obama wants to deliver a message to students next week emphasizing hard work, encouraging young people to do their best in school. The temper tantrum the right is throwing in response only helps reinforce how far gone 21st-century conservatives really are.

Afghanistan does not have oil, but it is crucial to the oil industry.
In June 2001 the Taliban government and Bush were prepared to agree on allowing Unocal to proceed with a pipeline from one of the "stan" countries to the north across Afghanistan to an ocean port.
Then the Taliban rejected the deal.
By October we had installed a puppet government and the first US Ambassador to Afghanistan was a former top executive with Unocal and one of the first things done was to start the pipeline.

Most 9/11 terrorists were Saudi Arabians. SA is one of the most oppressive dictatorships in the world, not bloody(usually) but there is little freedom there. Funny how the GOP never calls for it's overthrow even though it is far more repressive than Saddam was.

By:Blanketnazi2 on 9/4/09 at 12:34

whatever one's party registration, the idea that any child should be kept home from class purely so their parents can make a political statement about an apolitical speech is appalling. Is the idea that we should shelter children from any contact with or knowledge of any president we personally dislike? Maybe, during the years our preferred party is out of power, we should just pretend that the president doesn't exist. That's a healthy way to run a democracy.

I will agree with any President that attempts to teach children that intelligence and learning should be valued. We could use another "age of enlightenment" if you ask me...

By:Blanketnazi2 on 9/4/09 at 12:39

some conservative sites began calling for a "National Skip Day" on Sept. 8th to prevent children from being exposed to "Obama propaganda."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-dc-obama-schools,0,4944375.story

so, their response to Obama promoting education is to keep their kids home from school. truancy. makes sense - NOT.

By:Blanketnazi2 on 9/4/09 at 12:40

By: Funditto on 9/4/09 at 1:35
Blanket - wish I could loan you my hazmat snuggie. It's the latest thing.

Awesome! I feel like I need a hazmat snuggie right about now. *cough cough*

By:gdiafante on 9/4/09 at 12:40

Blanket, they've all lost their damn minds. I've never seen a group so paranoid in my life.

By:Blanketnazi2 on 9/4/09 at 12:42

well, you can't lose what you don't possess.

By:Kosh III on 9/4/09 at 12:44

Just to be clear:
Out of Iraq
Out of Afghanistan
End the occupation of Germany and the rest of Europe.
End the occupation of Korea and other places in the East
Bring home all the DEA forces in Latin America
Bring home ALL of our occupying forces, shrink the military to a size necessary for defense of our territory only.
End the Imperialism

By:slacker on 9/4/09 at 12:48

I think ''NASCHOCKEY'' will bring the country together.

By:gdiafante on 9/4/09 at 12:50

Sorry Kosh, I don't see strategic bases in Europe or the Far East as Imperialism. We have bases there, we are not occupying the countries.

Iraq...you have a point. Afghanistan...should have been over by now if we weren't in Iraq.

The military? Shrunk? No, expanded, if only to give the poor souls that have been stretched thinner than Chief's arguments a break. We tried Isolationism before, it didn't work too well either, but we can adopt a middle ground. Just need to stop invading countries for the hell of it, that's all.

By:Blanketnazi2 on 9/4/09 at 12:52

By: gdiafante on 9/4/09 at 1:50
if only to give the poor souls that have been stretched thinner than Chief's arguments a break.

*snicker*

By:gdiafante on 9/4/09 at 12:58

Slacker, you doing fantasy football this year? My draft is this afternoon.

By:dargent7 on 9/4/09 at 1:01

Hey; gd and Blanket...I'll have you both know I do have B.S. in Religion ( Religious Studies) from the University of Michigan. Now, doesn't that explain everything?

By:slacker on 9/4/09 at 1:02

gdiafante, I have never tried it.

By:gdiafante on 9/4/09 at 1:03

And you chose this degree willingly...my poor man, no wonder you're so angry...lol

By:slacker on 9/4/09 at 1:04

dargent, you B.S. on many things.

By:dargent7 on 9/4/09 at 1:11

Kosh III, et al;, As 15 of the 19 aboard the 9/11 airliners were Saudi, I'd say "that's a majority". If the flywheels and wing nuts that post here belive either we're "doing God's work" or "keeping America safe" 7 years after invasions of Iraq and now into Afghanistan....what can you say to them? The state of affairs in the USA is in the toilet and the bald headed morons who voted for Bush twice still scratch their collective noggins. I'm with that bitch who said, "Let them eat cake".

By:dargent7 on 9/4/09 at 1:12

Slack: True. But at least I'm accredited.

By:Kosh III on 9/4/09 at 1:14

Of course it's occupation. We are still in Germany because the rest of Europe does not want a re-militarized Germany. Ditto Japan.
Why are we in Korea? Can't the South, which is rich as Croesus, afford their own defense?
We would not be stretched if we were not in Iraq and Afghanistan and 100 other countries.
We have never truly practiced isolationism. In the 19th century we were on full-tilt Imperialism. We invaded Canada, Mexico, several other Caribbean and Latin American countries. How about that free Republic of Hawai'i? If the Japanese hadn't come along, we would still be trying to suppress Filipino rebels.

The Monroe Doctrine was not isolation, it was a declaration of American hegemony.

By:chiefpayne568 on 9/4/09 at 1:15

Blanket,

Gravity and chemistry are proven. The theory of relativity has been somewhat proven...sufficiently so as to be taken as a general truth worldwide.

The theory of evolution has yet to be proven.

By:dargent7 on 9/4/09 at 1:16

gd: Naw...I couldn't pass Organic Chemistry. Could you?

By:chiefpayne568 on 9/4/09 at 1:18

Kosh,

"One with only white propertied males able to vote, the Indians and coloreds are only partially human and have little or no rights. Genocide of Indians is approved of and supported by Presidents(Jackson)
Great world there: now we know the real GOP agenda."

Never happen given the AMENDMENTS to the Constitution. Want to try again?

By:chiefpayne568 on 9/4/09 at 1:22

The problem never was that the President was going to speak about children should learn. ORIGINALLY, the President was going to ask them to think and write about how they could help their President. It was only LATER that the President changed his wording of his speech. Now the problem is, the people of the US no longer fully trust their President (re: promises he made and never kept) and as such are not sure they can fully trust him to give the speech he says he will.

Personnally, I have no problem with it as I know my kids will come to me with anything they don't understand and I can explain it to them.

By:dargent7 on 9/4/09 at 1:22

Chief: I'm beginning to believe your posts are just meant to irritate the living among us. You cannot prove gravity.

By:chiefpayne568 on 9/4/09 at 1:23

Dargent,

I will say this for you, you are pretty consistent. And given your degree, it's understandable as well.

By:brrrrk on 9/4/09 at 1:26

Chief said

"Ok...cool. Then, leave the Koran in the mosque and the Torrah in the synagogue, and the theory of evolution with the Scientologists. All's fair."

Wow! Should we also hand the Theory of Gravity, the Theory of Plate tectonics, the Atomic theory, the Circuit theory, the Set theory, the Number theory, the Theory of relativity, the Quantum field theory, etc. etc. etc. over to the "Scientologists" too? Gosh, those Scientologists are way smarter than I thought they were!! Sorry Chief, but you put the id in idiot... Shoot! Can't say that, Psychoanalysis is a theory too.

By:chiefpayne568 on 9/4/09 at 1:29

brrrrk,

Point is, if you are going to teach evolution in class, why not creationism? Why not other theories? There's nothing wrong with teaching ALL theories, is there?

By:BenDover on 9/4/09 at 1:34

brrrk... teaching the Koran in American schools is as irrelevant as teaching Georgia history in Tennessee Schools.

Christianity is an integral part of our history and the effort to white-wash our history by purging reference to it in schools is a criminal propaganda effort.

By:gdiafante on 9/4/09 at 1:34

"Sorry Chief, but you put the id in idiot..."

LOL, line of the day!

By:gdiafante on 9/4/09 at 1:37

Hmmm...if Christianity is an integral part of American history, wouldn't the Koran be integral to World history? Yeah, now maybe you'll STFU about it.

gd: Seriously. Cannot we talk about "The Turtles" trivia or "Strawberry Alarm Clock" or something? Bend-o and Chief think GW Bush should be enshrined and entombed, and carved onto Mt. Rushmore. What the f**ck can you say to these people? I'd rather talk to 'Houses" ex-wife.

By:brrrrk on 9/4/09 at 1:44

Chief

"Point is, if you are going to teach evolution in class, why not creationism? Why not other theories? There's nothing wrong with teaching ALL theories, is there?"

Well for one thing, the Theory of Evolution has been incrementally proven in many ways but will never be proven to your satisfaction I suspect. For example, there have been a number of transitional species found. Evolution, unlike creationism, can be proven evidentially. Creationism, on the other hand, is based almost wholly on the non-existence of evidence; if something can't be proven scientifically, well then God MUST be the answer.

Well all I've got to say is thank goodness we don't use the same theory of proof in REAL science that creationism uses.... we'd still be bleeding with leaches, using the telegraph and thinking that going faster than 30 miles per hour will kill you.

By:dargent7 on 9/4/09 at 1:44

Chief: I'm still waiting for your proof of gravity.

By:Kosh III on 9/4/09 at 1:45

Chief
Did you not say you wanted to go back to the way the Constitution originally was?
There would have been no amendments other than the first 10 and therefore my point stands: you want a male supremacy world of WASPS.

By:BenDover on 9/4/09 at 1:47

I don't disagree, gd... but it's not on par with Christianity with respect to our history. You want to teach the loving peaceful Muhammad in world history, go right ahead. It’s a much smaller sliver of our whole pie though so my point still stands. Unless you want to make the point that Americans should not study American history or that Tennesseans should not study Tennessee history you are trapped by the fact that the history being taught is distorted by religion in schools being taboo.

By:gdiafante on 9/4/09 at 1:49

Kosh, don't try, Chief thought the Declaration of Independence was written in 1787...he's been lobotomized.

Dargent, ok...name the movie that was co-written by Roger Ebert and had an appearance by "Strawberry Alarmclock"...