they said it was just a temporary sugar-high from convention rhetoric. They said it would die down within a week. They said that Obama's record was so poor that Mitt Romney had it in the bag if he would just keep the conversation on the economy. What a resounding response from voters!

Obama is up 5% NATIONALLY among likely voters.His approval rating is 51%He's leading by 8% in the swing state of VirginiaHe's leading by 7% in the swing state of OhioHe's leading by 5% in the swing state of Colorado42% of Americans say that the economy is getting better (A record high for the last 4 years)39% of small business owners believe that Obama is more protective of their interests, versus Romney's 32%37% trust Obama with the economy vs. Romney's 34%http://www.reuters.com...http://www.bizjournals.com...http://firstread.nbcnews.com...http://www.pbs.org...

"A stupid despot may constrain his slaves with iron chains; but a true politician binds them even more strongly with the chain of their own ideas" - Michel Foucault

At 9/18/2012 6:54:59 PM, OberHerr wrote:Dude.....you sound like friggen MSNBC...and, give it a little while, it will die down. A week is a bit too short.

And, seriously, do you masturbate to this stuff? Cause the way you talk about it, it seems like you do.

yeah, just give it a few months, I'm sure it'll die down eventually. :P

A month I say. And, A LOT can happen between now and Nov. 6th. A LOT.

Who do you honestly think is more likely to slip? The incumbent or the power hungry obscenely wealthy flipflopping governor who is struggling to bring himself to the center after moving to the far right for the sake of his base, while simultaneously offending several global dignitaries and countries whom have sent angry and disgusted replies?

"A stupid despot may constrain his slaves with iron chains; but a true politician binds them even more strongly with the chain of their own ideas" - Michel Foucault

At 9/18/2012 6:54:59 PM, OberHerr wrote:Dude.....you sound like friggen MSNBC...and, give it a little while, it will die down. A week is a bit too short.

And, seriously, do you masturbate to this stuff? Cause the way you talk about it, it seems like you do.

yeah, just give it a few months, I'm sure it'll die down eventually. :P

A month I say. And, A LOT can happen between now and Nov. 6th. A LOT.

Who do you honestly think is more likely to slip? The incumbent or the power hungry obscenely wealthy flipflopping governor who is struggling to bring himself to the center after moving to the far right for the sake of his base, while simultaneously offending several global dignitaries and countries whom have sent angry and disgusted replies?

Haha

"Easy is the descent to Avernus, for the door to the Underworld lies upon both day and night. But to retrace your steps and return to the breezes above- that's the task, that's the toil."

At 9/18/2012 6:54:59 PM, OberHerr wrote:Dude.....you sound like friggen MSNBC...and, give it a little while, it will die down. A week is a bit too short.

And, seriously, do you masturbate to this stuff? Cause the way you talk about it, it seems like you do.

yeah, just give it a few months, I'm sure it'll die down eventually. :P

A month I say. And, A LOT can happen between now and Nov. 6th. A LOT.

Who do you honestly think is more likely to slip? The incumbent or the power hungry obscenely wealthy flipflopping governor who is struggling to bring himself to the center after moving to the far right for the sake of his base, while simultaneously offending several global dignitaries and countries whom have sent angry and disgusted replies?

Who do you honestly think is gonna slip? The successful business man, with a almost spotless record, and tons of experience fixing things, over the incumbent in power, who has failed to bump the economy up at all almost, and has yet to prove he is even competent for the job?

I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations.
A singular development of cat communications
That obviates your basic hedonistic predilection,
For a rhythmic stroking of your fur to demonstrate affection.

lol you can't bring it upon yourself to call it "immoral" like any normally minded person would?

You believe in objective morality now? Kewl.

Where did you get that from?

Moral nihilism or subjectivism may be true, but its normatively inapplicable. In a casual conversation that doesn't necessitate philosophical obscurities like the truth of morality, it would be odd and silly to argue that morality means nothing. It's clearly a necessary delusion, like freewill. Your response is even MORE irrelevant to this context because 16kadams is not a nihilist or a subjectivist, so I would expect de facto objective moral claims from him, so it's telling that in listing what's wrong with executing gays he couldn't mention morality.

"A stupid despot may constrain his slaves with iron chains; but a true politician binds them even more strongly with the chain of their own ideas" - Michel Foucault

'When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.' - John 16:13

lol you can't bring it upon yourself to call it "immoral" like any normally minded person would?

You believe in objective morality now? Kewl.

Where did you get that from?

Moral nihilism or subjectivism may be true, but its normatively inapplicable. In a casual conversation that doesn't necessitate philosophical obscurities like the truth of morality, it would be odd and silly to argue that morality means nothing. It's clearly a necessary delusion, like freewill. Your response is even MORE irrelevant to this context because 16kadams is not a nihilist or a subjectivist, so I would expect de facto objective moral claims from him, so it's telling that in listing what's wrong with executing gays he couldn't mention morality.

You can think it's weird for him and I understand that people usually aren't consistent with their nihilism but you made it a huge point to call him out for not thinking that executing gays is immoral. But obviously you don't think that's so so why care? In fact he was right. Executing gays is idiotic, unconstitutional, and illogical. Those seem like more than enough reason to be against such a practice (especially if you're a nihilist) so it seems weird that a nihilist would be the one trying to bring morality into the picture.

I have always followed the Iowa Electronic Markets, which is a real market where one can buy shares in a position on who is going to win. I has been extremely accurate in predictions, but I'm not certain at what timing. Here is the current chart showing Obama with a decent lead currently.

Romney seems like he alienates a good chunk of his supporters by lumping them all in as dead beats. Half of the 47% who he calls out in his latest speech have to be supporters of him, because the Democratic base has a huge constituency of well educated successful middle class who are in the 53% of tax payers. He almost deserves to loose just for not recognizing that.

At 9/18/2012 6:50:27 PM, 000ike wrote:they said it was just a temporary sugar-high from convention rhetoric. They said it would die down within a week. They said that Obama's record was so poor that Mitt Romney had it in the bag if he would just keep the conversation on the economy. What a resounding response from voters!

Obama is up 5% NATIONALLY among likely voters.His approval rating is 51%He's leading by 8% in the swing state of VirginiaHe's leading by 7% in the swing state of OhioHe's leading by 5% in the swing state of Colorado42% of Americans say that the economy is getting better (A record high for the last 4 years)39% of small business owners believe that Obama is more protective of their interests, versus Romney's 32%37% trust Obama with the economy vs. Romney's 34%http://www.reuters.com...http://www.bizjournals.com...http://firstread.nbcnews.com...http://www.pbs.org...

Obama will win this election. Write it down if you have to and know that Inferno speaks the truth.

At 9/18/2012 6:50:27 PM, 000ike wrote:they said it was just a temporary sugar-high from convention rhetoric. They said it would die down within a week. They said that Obama's record was so poor that Mitt Romney had it in the bag if he would just keep the conversation on the economy. What a resounding response from voters!

Obama is up 5% NATIONALLY among likely voters.His approval rating is 51%He's leading by 8% in the swing state of VirginiaHe's leading by 7% in the swing state of OhioHe's leading by 5% in the swing state of Colorado42% of Americans say that the economy is getting better (A record high for the last 4 years)39% of small business owners believe that Obama is more protective of their interests, versus Romney's 32%37% trust Obama with the economy vs. Romney's 34%http://www.reuters.com...http://www.bizjournals.com...http://firstread.nbcnews.com...http://www.pbs.org...

The gold standard in polling is the Rasmussen poll. They were the most accurate in predicting the last election. Currently, Romney is one point ahead of Obama. That's within the margin of error.

The polls are so important now that a lot of effort goes into making biased polls. To get Obama ahead, pollsters overweight Democrats, assume the turnout percentages of the last election in which Obama blocs turned out in record numbers, and use use registered voters rather than likely voters as the base.

It's currently neck-and-neck. We'll just have to go ahead and have election.

This may be the last real election for the Republic. Obama has said that if re-elected he will use executive orders to implement his agenda, bypassing Congress.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years."&#8213; Alexis de Tocqueville (c. 1840)