KrispyKritter:sendtodave: CeroX: It might not "deserve" it, but it's not more important than an 11 year old girl...

You seem to think that farkers have a higher opinion of children than of wild animals. You are mistaken.

I get the impression that many farkers would hunt small children for sport, if they could.

truth be told, i would give up all i possess to be able to hunt down children for sport. there are few things as horrible and insipid as children, and their numbers are way too high.

Are you....are you proposing a cull? Cause I'd be down with that. Only not of children, of stupid folk with wildly raging reproductive organs that continuously spit out tiny humans and subsequently corrupt them with their lunacy.

Tat'dGreaser:Heh, I love people who can't wrap their heads around humans hunting animals.

Im glad someone came up with the idea to do so. I like salad but as a side not as a main course. I see plenty of deer splattered all over the roads everyday, apparently there isn't enough hunting going on. It is sad to see all the meat get wasted when there are so many hungry people in this country. Pink slime for everyone!

blipponaut:AverageAmericanGuy: fiver5: She should get her meat at the grocery store in shrink wrapped packages like everyone else does. Because killing animals is wrong.

This is the dumbest comment I've ever read. You know that in order to make that meat that you buy at the grocery store, that someone has to kill the animal it comes from? Just because you're buying something at the store doesn't mean that that animal wasn't slaughtered. It most definitely was.

If I had my druthers, I'd put a stop to killing animals for food. Humans are an agricultural species and don't need meat to survive.

Wow... simply wow. You really missed the sarcasm? Honestly? I mea it was dripping off that statement like STDs off Paris Hilton's sloppy joe.

No, he got the sarcasm...he's trolling a troll. Or reverse trolling if you will. He got you to bite...now he sings his song..troll a la la la, la la la laahhhhh

Big Ramifications:Mate, I'm quite prepared to take the other side of the argument. "let's get out of town and abandon our houses coz the bears are running out of room and it's too dangerous to stick around." Seriously.

Wow.

But, what's the point in running the world of we have to give up our stuff? Nature only exists because we want it to.

I predict that in less than a thousand years, we will have six species of lesser animals left. Three for food, two for pets, and rats. Pesky, pesky rats.

Mental gymnastics. Give me strength.

I could have gone with 'rationalization (due to cognitive dissonance)' but, eh, it's good enough for government work.

HotWingConspiracy:abhorrent1: CeroX: because she's a human, and that thing is an animal

Exactly. That animals life has far more value.

/should have dropped her in the woods and hunted her.//she's dying anyway.

Exactly. Based on market forces alone, that bear is far more valuable than that kid. There are over 7 billion humans, we're essentially worthless. Bears being far more rare, are worth a mint.

False, actually.

A bear doesn't give any continued return on investment until you exploit it, and then it's gone. A child will grow up to be an adult that can be worked, and you can make decades of profit off of them. That's why a child, though more numerous than a bear, is more valuable from the perspective of market forces.

dittybopper:A bear doesn't give any continued return on investment until you exploit it, and then it's gone. A child will grow up to be an adult that can be worked, and you can make decades of profit off of them. That's why a child, though more numerous than a bear, is more valuable from the perspective of market forces.

What if you run a circus and put the bear on a unicycle with a funny hat?

dittybopper:A bear doesn't give any continued return on investment until you exploit it, and then it's gone. A child will grow up to be an adult that can be worked, and you can make decades of profit off of them. That's why a child, though more numerous than a bear, is more valuable from the perspective of market forces.

It's even simpler than that. Get yourself a live bear, and a live 11 year old girl and auction them off separately. Let me know which one goes for more money.

blipponaut:AverageAmericanGuy: fiver5: She should get her meat at the grocery store in shrink wrapped packages like everyone else does. Because killing animals is wrong.

This is the dumbest comment I've ever read. You know that in order to make that meat that you buy at the grocery store, that someone has to kill the animal it comes from? Just because you're buying something at the store doesn't mean that that animal wasn't slaughtered. It most definitely was.

If I had my druthers, I'd put a stop to killing animals for food. Humans are an agricultural species and don't need meat to survive.

Wow... simply wow. You really missed the sarcasm? Honestly? I mea it was dripping off that statement like STDs off Paris Hilton's sloppy joe.

dittybopper:HotWingConspiracy: abhorrent1: CeroX: because she's a human, and that thing is an animal

Exactly. That animals life has far more value.

/should have dropped her in the woods and hunted her.//she's dying anyway.

Exactly. Based on market forces alone, that bear is far more valuable than that kid. There are over 7 billion humans, we're essentially worthless. Bears being far more rare, are worth a mint.

False, actually.

A bear doesn't give any continued return on investment until you exploit it, and then it's gone. A child will grow up to be an adult that can be worked, and you can make decades of profit off of them. That's why a child, though more numerous than a bear, is more valuable from the perspective of market forces.

A dead bear in a dead bear thread. How will Farker gmoron101 ever cope?

....I just thought they were thought provoking pictures that peeps might have bin interested in. Sheesh.

So you are saying a bear is a bear and therefore a killer monster and because there is a chance that a bear will stumble into your town and eat some arsehole that you have to kill all the bears?

Who are the dumb farkers that built a town in the middle of bear territory? Who are the dumb farkers that go hiking in the woods? You have to kill the bears cause people (you) are stupid?

BTW putting that picture of a Grizzly was nor meant for thought provoking it was a direct response to my objection to killing this bear so I go "Oh... that probably is dangerous" like I don't know about bears

Hey Check this out, when I was in the Maldives the waters around the beaches where I swam are Shark infested; This is to STILL a Shark

Langdon_777:Tat'dGreaser: Heh, I love people who can't wrap their heads around humans hunting animals.

As ex-miltary I prefer real sport - hunting humans - but as its immoral and illegal I avoid such pleasures and play the playstation instead.

If you want real sport, hunt dangerous game like bears and wild boar with primitive equipment, and don't cheat by using things like tree stands.

I only hunt primitive (flintlock rifle for a gun, hickory flatbow for bow season). I'm not *QUITE* there yet, but eventually I'm going to go with arrowheads I knapped myself:

That head isn't big enough to be legal for deer or bear in NYS (though historically Indians used heads that size), but I plan on trying it out on a coyote or other medium sized critter if I happen to run across one this year.

HotWingConspiracy:Exactly. Based on market forces alone, that bear is far more valuable than that kid. There are over 7 billion humans, we're essentially worthless. Bears being far more rare, are worth a mint.

She's probably worth around $750-790k, according to humansforsale.com. Hard to say, with the whole dying thing. I substituted "High Blood Pressure," "Kidney Disease," and "AIDS" for the imminent organ failure.

Animatronik:You guys should read up on what happened to the deer population in the early 1900s when hunting wasnt allowed in many areas.

Then you should go frolic with the bears like the Bear Whisperer, so Darwin has a crack at controlling your population.

The point here, which you took the round-a-bout way in order to miss, is the irony in a kid dying taking joy in killing something else.

Not very many people are dumb enough to think that death isn't a natural and necessary part of our universe. That doesn't mean you have to go out of your way to cause it, and it certainly doesn't detract from the fact that if you think it's entertaining you're a sadistic twat.

Culling an animal population to prevent a more painful decline when it becomes prone to disease or starvation - a natural cull - is one thing. Getting all grinny and giggly over killing something, however, is sociopathic.

abhorrent1:dittybopper: A bear doesn't give any continued return on investment until you exploit it, and then it's gone. A child will grow up to be an adult that can be worked, and you can make decades of profit off of them. That's why a child, though more numerous than a bear, is more valuable from the perspective of market forces.

What if you run a circus and put the bear on a unicycle with a funny hat?

Average working lifetime of a bear: 15 yearsAverage working lifetime of a person: 40 years

Oh, and you can mistreat the person and no one will give a crap. Mistreat the animal, and you'll have people come down on you like a ton of bricks.

for good or for awesome:Good lord. I'm always surprised at the number of people on Fark that think killing an animal like this is a horrible tragedy. None of you need to eat meat. You do it because you like it. If killing this bear gives this little girl and her family some comfort good for them. As long as the animal is not endangered have at it.

So maybe someone can have at humans too, they are not endangered... if it makes someone happy, lets "just let em have at it"... right... you are so much better than animals... compared to you their lives mean nothing... lets just kill them all and point and laugh...dumbass...

gmoney101:BTW putting that picture of a Grizzly was nor meant for thought provoking it was a direct response to my objection to killing this bear so I go "Oh... that probably is dangerous" like I don't know about bears

Hey Check this out, when I was in the Maldives the waters around the beaches where I swam are Shark infested; This is to STILL a Shark

gmoney101:BTW putting that picture of a Grizzly was nor meant for thought provoking it was a direct response to my objection to killing this bear so I go "Oh... that probably is dangerous" like I don't know about bears

Hey Check this out, when I was in the Maldives the waters around the beaches where I swam are Shark infested; This is to STILL a Shark

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~~You're a f*ucking idiot, mate. I've got no idea if you're pulling my leg or not, but I ain't arguing with you any more.

sendtodave:HotWingConspiracy: Exactly. Based on market forces alone, that bear is far more valuable than that kid. There are over 7 billion humans, we're essentially worthless. Bears being far more rare, are worth a mint.

She's probably worth around $750-790k, according to humansforsale.com. Hard to say, with the whole dying thing. I substituted "High Blood Pressure," "Kidney Disease," and "AIDS" for the imminent organ failure.

Whereas big bear meat is only worth 45c.

You do the math.

I dunno man. That site can claim that, but you're not going to find anyone on this planet that would shell out 750k for a diseased kid.

Ask anyone if they'd rather have a bear, or a diseased, depressing child. She's a total money sink. The bear is just going to be out there doing bear stuff, pretty self-sufficient.

dittybopper:Langdon_777: Tat'dGreaser: Heh, I love people who can't wrap their heads around humans hunting animals.

As ex-miltary I prefer real sport - hunting humans - but as its immoral and illegal I avoid such pleasures and play the playstation instead.

If you want real sport, hunt dangerous game like bears and wild boar with primitive equipment, and don't cheat by using things like tree stands.

I only hunt primitive (flintlock rifle for a gun, hickory flatbow for bow season). I'm not *QUITE* there yet, but eventually I'm going to go with arrowheads I knapped myself:

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That head isn't big enough to be legal for deer or bear in NYS (though historically Indians used heads that size), but I plan on trying it out on a coyote or other medium sized critter if I happen to run across one this year.

You know, i still haven't gotten flintknapping down, even after we had that discussion a few months back or sometime last year...

natas6.0:I have no argument with hunting any animal for food.Even by the genetically inferior

this is pretty ridiculous

"look what someone helped me do! I could never have ended this life on my own"

Kinda hope she sees that same bear very soonand it showes her the same mercy for the next thousand years

Why? Of the three main kinds of hunting (market hunting, subsistence hunting, and sport hunting), only sport hunting has ever lead to an *INCREASE* in game populations. Hunting for food is bad for the environment, hunting for money is bad for the environment, but sport hunting is *GOOD* for it. That's because people who hunt for fun want to continue hunting for fun, and they voluntarily spend tens of millions of dollars every year for conservation efforts to do things like preserve habitat, which benefits all species, not just those targeted.

If you like wildlife, you should be encouraging sport hunting, not denigrating it.

I guess it just seems to me that someone coming face to face with their own impending mortality might look into the eyes of a beautiful, wild animal they're about to shoot and have a profound moment of realization that even though whether she lives or dies is out of her hands, whether this living being lives or dies is in her hands, and give it the very gift she wishes for herself - a second chance.

But nope, she shot it because killing things is fun. Well little girl, do you know who else seems to like to kill for the fun of it? God. And he's aiming down his little finger-gun at you as we speak.

NannyStatePark:I name my lobsters, so I must be really messed up. The waitstaff at Red Lobster think its hilariousplay along with my lame joke because they think they'll get a better tip then make fun of me after I leave.

dittybopper:natas6.0: I have no argument with hunting any animal for food.Even by the genetically inferior

this is pretty ridiculous

"look what someone helped me do! I could never have ended this life on my own"

Kinda hope she sees that same bear very soonand it showes her the same mercy for the next thousand years

Why? Of the three main kinds of hunting (market hunting, subsistence hunting, and sport hunting), only sport hunting has ever lead to an *INCREASE* in game populations. Hunting for food is bad for the environment, hunting for money is bad for the environment, but sport hunting is *GOOD* for it. That's because people who hunt for fun want to continue hunting for fun, and they voluntarily spend tens of millions of dollars every year for conservation efforts to do things like preserve habitat, which benefits all species, not just those targeted.

If you like wildlife, you should be encouraging sport hunting, not denigrating it.

for good or for awesome:Good lord. I'm always surprised at the number of people on Fark that think killing an animal like this is a horrible tragedy. None of you need to eat meat. You do it because you like it. If killing this bear gives this little girl and her family some comfort good for them. As long as the animal is not endangered have at it.

It's 1 animal for F- sake, and she hunted it, she didn't grow it with a half a billion others crammed into a factory barn, she got out there, in the wild, and hunted... Good on her!

And fark you retards and your bleeding sympathetic hearts to the "poor black bear who never hurt anyone"

Except the people that get mauled when they go into their back yard to investigate who the hell is rummaging through their trash and find a bear staring them in the face... or worse, a cub, who's mama is right behind them...

And it's not like they are endangered, or even threatened...

I say, let the dying 11 year old girl shoot the bear... hell let her slit it's throat... I'll send her flowers, because she's a human, and that thing is an animal. It might not "deserve" it, but it's not more important than an 11 year old girl...

If my babygirl was dying, and all she wanted was to kill a majestic woodland creature before she dies, we'd be on the first plane to canada or alaska, rifles in tow...

She's my baby girl, and no animal running around in the wild is worth the smile on her face

that might be because you are just as screwed up in the head. Your life, your child's life important. Anything else, who gives a shyt, right? m i right??? hahaha, lets kill em all... make idiots happy...

CeroX:You know, i still haven't gotten flintknapping down, even after we had that discussion a few months back or sometime last year...

Still use bone arrowheads...

The distaffbopper is getting her hip replaced in a bit more than a week. I asked the doctor if I could have the femoral ball they are cutting out because it would make a dandy tool for soft-hammer percussion knapping.

Vegan Meat Popsicle:Getting all grinny and giggly over killing something, however, is sociopathic.

Its wrong to feel a sense of accomplishment after putting in the work to achieve your goal?Hunting isn't exactly easy.

/Used to hunt rats at my grandfathers house./I feel alot better when I shoot them than when I find one in a trap with their eyes bulging out./Traps may be more efficient, but sniping the critters is certainly more fun.

sendtodave:HotWingConspiracy: Ask anyone if they'd rather have a bear, or a diseased, depressing child. She's a total money sink. The bear is just going to be out there doing bear stuff, pretty self-sufficient.

Fair point. And in some places you could put the bear in a cage, and have people pay to feed it peanuts or something. Easy money.

glassbottomboatcaptain:But nope, she shot it because killing things is fun. Well little girl, do you know who else seems to like to kill for the fun of it? God. And he's aiming down his little finger-gun at you as we speak.

So, in killing this animal, she was able to, for one brief moment, experience God? To feel what he must feel?