I think we should start encouraging people not to buy the paper for two days every time they behave like this.

[quote][p][bold]The Fish[/bold] wrote:
Really Echo - "Update with video" - show some respect![/p][/quote]I think we should start encouraging people not to buy the paper for two days every time they behave like this.JamesYoung

The Fish wrote…

Really Echo - "Update with video" - show some respect!

I think we should start encouraging people not to buy the paper for two days every time they behave like this.

Score: 24

The Fish
8:42am Fri 5 Sep 14

JamesYoung wrote…

The Fish wrote…

Really Echo - "Update with video" - show some respect!

I think we should start encouraging people not to buy the paper for two days every time they behave like this.

Totally agree, but the way its been going recently they would'nt sell many!

[quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]The Fish[/bold] wrote: Really Echo - "Update with video" - show some respect![/p][/quote]I think we should start encouraging people not to buy the paper for two days every time they behave like this.[/p][/quote]Totally agree, but the way its been going recently they would'nt sell many!The Fish

JamesYoung wrote…

The Fish wrote…

Really Echo - "Update with video" - show some respect!

I think we should start encouraging people not to buy the paper for two days every time they behave like this.

Totally agree, but the way its been going recently they would'nt sell many!

Score: 5

unexpected error
8:52am Fri 5 Sep 14

I think maybe its time for the Echo to rethink what their readers actually want. I think if asked most would prefer the Echo not to try and be a regional 'Sun' or 'Mirror' type of paper but one that delivers the news with respect. I think they are forgetting that their paper covers a relatively small communtity where people know each other and find this sort of journalism disrespectful.

I think maybe its time for the Echo to rethink what their readers actually want. I think if asked most would prefer the Echo not to try and be a regional 'Sun' or 'Mirror' type of paper but one that delivers the news with respect. I think they are forgetting that their paper covers a relatively small communtity where people know each other and find this sort of journalism disrespectful.unexpected error

I think maybe its time for the Echo to rethink what their readers actually want. I think if asked most would prefer the Echo not to try and be a regional 'Sun' or 'Mirror' type of paper but one that delivers the news with respect. I think they are forgetting that their paper covers a relatively small communtity where people know each other and find this sort of journalism disrespectful.

Score: 35

toyota777
9:05am Fri 5 Sep 14

A very tragic and horrible accident,I feel sorry for his family.

A very tragic and horrible accident,I feel sorry for his family.toyota777

A very tragic and horrible accident,I feel sorry for his family.

Score: 30

lakotasiouxwolf
10:26am Fri 5 Sep 14

I have emailed the editor and requested that they remove the video immediately. If this also upsets you, please could you also contact the editor and ask the same to be done. No one, but especially the family and friends, needs to see it. Thank you

I have emailed the editor and requested that they remove the video immediately. If this also upsets you, please could you also contact the editor and ask the same to be done. No one, but especially the family and friends, needs to see it. Thank youlakotasiouxwolf

I have emailed the editor and requested that they remove the video immediately. If this also upsets you, please could you also contact the editor and ask the same to be done. No one, but especially the family and friends, needs to see it. Thank you

Score: 20

Peter Arnold2
11:57am Fri 5 Sep 14

I can't imagine people complaining if the video was on Westcountry News? If they had known about it, they would have covered it and their video would have been on last night. The Echo does a great job at bringing news to the locality, good or bad. It is a very sad story but the video is part of the multi-media world we live in. My thoughts are with the family.

I can't imagine people complaining if the video was on Westcountry News? If they had known about it, they would have covered it and their video would have been on last night. The Echo does a great job at bringing news to the locality, good or bad. It is a very sad story but the video is part of the multi-media world we live in. My thoughts are with the family.Peter Arnold2

I can't imagine people complaining if the video was on Westcountry News? If they had known about it, they would have covered it and their video would have been on last night. The Echo does a great job at bringing news to the locality, good or bad. It is a very sad story but the video is part of the multi-media world we live in. My thoughts are with the family.

Score: 9

SovietMIRV6
11:55am Fri 5 Sep 14

Have they raided this poor guys Facebook page for comments yet?

Have they raided this poor guys Facebook page for comments yet?SovietMIRV6

Have they raided this poor guys Facebook page for comments yet?

Score: 0

unexpected error
3:44pm Fri 5 Sep 14

Peter Arnold2 wrote…

I can't imagine people complaining if the video was on Westcountry News? If they had known about it, they would have covered it and their video would have been on last night. The Echo does a great job at bringing news to the locality, good or bad. It is a very sad story but the video is part of the multi-media world we live in. My thoughts are with the family.

The point is the Echo are always over doing it trying to be sensational. Both the Wessex FM and BBC Dorset news sites have reported the story but without the need for 'video'.

Just because its 'part of the multi-media world we live in' does not mean we have to just accept it. I always think how would I feel it was one of my loved ones and I certainly wouldn't want a personal tragedy displayed in this way.

[quote][p][bold]Peter Arnold2[/bold] wrote:
I can't imagine people complaining if the video was on Westcountry News? If they had known about it, they would have covered it and their video would have been on last night. The Echo does a great job at bringing news to the locality, good or bad. It is a very sad story but the video is part of the multi-media world we live in. My thoughts are with the family.[/p][/quote]The point is the Echo are always over doing it trying to be sensational. Both the Wessex FM and BBC Dorset news sites have reported the story but without the need for 'video'.
Just because its 'part of the multi-media world we live in' does not mean we have to just accept it. I always think how would I feel it was one of my loved ones and I certainly wouldn't want a personal tragedy displayed in this way.unexpected error

Peter Arnold2 wrote…

I can't imagine people complaining if the video was on Westcountry News? If they had known about it, they would have covered it and their video would have been on last night. The Echo does a great job at bringing news to the locality, good or bad. It is a very sad story but the video is part of the multi-media world we live in. My thoughts are with the family.

The point is the Echo are always over doing it trying to be sensational. Both the Wessex FM and BBC Dorset news sites have reported the story but without the need for 'video'.

Just because its 'part of the multi-media world we live in' does not mean we have to just accept it. I always think how would I feel it was one of my loved ones and I certainly wouldn't want a personal tragedy displayed in this way.

Score: 11

lakotasiouxwolf
3:59pm Fri 5 Sep 14

Peter Arnold2 wrote…

I can't imagine people complaining if the video was on Westcountry News? If they had known about it, they would have covered it and their video would have been on last night. The Echo does a great job at bringing news to the locality, good or bad. It is a very sad story but the video is part of the multi-media world we live in. My thoughts are with the family.

My point is that when a family is grieving that such harrowing images are not required. By all means cover the events in words but please retain some decency and restrain yourselves from the use of upsetting photos or videos. What ever happened to responsible reporting?

[quote][p][bold]Peter Arnold2[/bold] wrote:
I can't imagine people complaining if the video was on Westcountry News? If they had known about it, they would have covered it and their video would have been on last night. The Echo does a great job at bringing news to the locality, good or bad. It is a very sad story but the video is part of the multi-media world we live in. My thoughts are with the family.[/p][/quote]My point is that when a family is grieving that such harrowing images are not required. By all means cover the events in words but please retain some decency and restrain yourselves from the use of upsetting photos or videos. What ever happened to responsible reporting?lakotasiouxwolf

Peter Arnold2 wrote…

I can't imagine people complaining if the video was on Westcountry News? If they had known about it, they would have covered it and their video would have been on last night. The Echo does a great job at bringing news to the locality, good or bad. It is a very sad story but the video is part of the multi-media world we live in. My thoughts are with the family.

My point is that when a family is grieving that such harrowing images are not required. By all means cover the events in words but please retain some decency and restrain yourselves from the use of upsetting photos or videos. What ever happened to responsible reporting?

Score: 13

Keill Randor
4:24pm Fri 5 Sep 14

lakotasiouxwolf wrote…

Peter Arnold2 wrote…

I can't imagine people complaining if the video was on Westcountry News? If they had known about it, they would have covered it and their video would have been on last night. The Echo does a great job at bringing news to the locality, good or bad. It is a very sad story but the video is part of the multi-media world we live in. My thoughts are with the family.

My point is that when a family is grieving that such harrowing images are not required. By all means cover the events in words but please retain some decency and restrain yourselves from the use of upsetting photos or videos. What ever happened to responsible reporting?

I highly doubt the family are going to be any more distraught because of there being a video on the internet of the site of the accident. There is nothing upsetting about this in the clip.

All these attempts at politically correctness are quite frankly laughable.

[quote][p][bold]lakotasiouxwolf[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Peter Arnold2[/bold] wrote:
I can't imagine people complaining if the video was on Westcountry News? If they had known about it, they would have covered it and their video would have been on last night. The Echo does a great job at bringing news to the locality, good or bad. It is a very sad story but the video is part of the multi-media world we live in. My thoughts are with the family.[/p][/quote]My point is that when a family is grieving that such harrowing images are not required. By all means cover the events in words but please retain some decency and restrain yourselves from the use of upsetting photos or videos. What ever happened to responsible reporting?[/p][/quote]I highly doubt the family are going to be any more distraught because of there being a video on the internet of the site of the accident. There is nothing upsetting about this in the clip.
All these attempts at politically correctness are quite frankly laughable.Keill Randor

lakotasiouxwolf wrote…

Peter Arnold2 wrote…

I can't imagine people complaining if the video was on Westcountry News? If they had known about it, they would have covered it and their video would have been on last night. The Echo does a great job at bringing news to the locality, good or bad. It is a very sad story but the video is part of the multi-media world we live in. My thoughts are with the family.

My point is that when a family is grieving that such harrowing images are not required. By all means cover the events in words but please retain some decency and restrain yourselves from the use of upsetting photos or videos. What ever happened to responsible reporting?

I highly doubt the family are going to be any more distraught because of there being a video on the internet of the site of the accident. There is nothing upsetting about this in the clip.

All these attempts at politically correctness are quite frankly laughable.

Score: -17

livid99
9:57pm Fri 5 Sep 14

lakotasiouxwolf wrote…

I have emailed the editor and requested that they remove the video immediately. If this also upsets you, please could you also contact the editor and ask the same to be done. No one, but especially the family and friends, needs to see it. Thank you

Good luck, but they do not reply to these sort of requests. The disgraceful way they reported the death of the man on a stag party and lifted all the personal comments from his facebook page, was reported to the head of news at the Echo. Nothing - not even an acknowledgement. A public apology would have helped, but they cant be bothered with that. The so called "journalists" at the Echo appear to be work experience kids looking for a bit of sensationalism but with no idea of sensitivity. There are other ways of describing them too.

[quote][p][bold]lakotasiouxwolf[/bold] wrote:
I have emailed the editor and requested that they remove the video immediately. If this also upsets you, please could you also contact the editor and ask the same to be done. No one, but especially the family and friends, needs to see it. Thank you[/p][/quote]Good luck, but they do not reply to these sort of requests. The disgraceful way they reported the death of the man on a stag party and lifted all the personal comments from his facebook page, was reported to the head of news at the Echo. Nothing - not even an acknowledgement. A public apology would have helped, but they cant be bothered with that. The so called "journalists" at the Echo appear to be work experience kids looking for a bit of sensationalism but with no idea of sensitivity. There are other ways of describing them too.livid99

lakotasiouxwolf wrote…

I have emailed the editor and requested that they remove the video immediately. If this also upsets you, please could you also contact the editor and ask the same to be done. No one, but especially the family and friends, needs to see it. Thank you

Good luck, but they do not reply to these sort of requests. The disgraceful way they reported the death of the man on a stag party and lifted all the personal comments from his facebook page, was reported to the head of news at the Echo. Nothing - not even an acknowledgement. A public apology would have helped, but they cant be bothered with that. The so called "journalists" at the Echo appear to be work experience kids looking for a bit of sensationalism but with no idea of sensitivity. There are other ways of describing them too.

Score: 8

jusphil
11:21pm Fri 5 Sep 14

Just don't buy the echo, this type of reporting is just like the sport .....bad news and a video of it as well. If you keep buying it the more they will do it. I will not be buying it until they change the style of reporting.

Just don't buy the echo, this type of reporting is just like the sport .....bad news and a video of it as well. If you keep buying it the more they will do it. I will not be buying it until they change the style of reporting.jusphil

Just don't buy the echo, this type of reporting is just like the sport .....bad news and a video of it as well. If you keep buying it the more they will do it. I will not be buying it until they change the style of reporting.

Score: 8

JackJohnson
6:46pm Sat 6 Sep 14

jusphil wrote…

Just don't buy the echo, this type of reporting is just like the sport .....bad news and a video of it as well. If you keep buying it the more they will do it. I will not be buying it until they change the style of reporting.

Does anybody actually buy it? Or do they (like me) just read it online? I've only bought 4 or 5 newspapers (even ones with a good pedigree) that I can think of in the last 30 years.

Perhaps the OHEC feels the need to sensationalise headlines and stories to turn them into click fodder in the hope users might click on an ad while they're there?

[quote][p][bold]jusphil[/bold] wrote:
Just don't buy the echo, this type of reporting is just like the sport .....bad news and a video of it as well. If you keep buying it the more they will do it. I will not be buying it until they change the style of reporting.[/p][/quote]Does anybody actually buy it? Or do they (like me) just read it online? I've only bought 4 or 5 newspapers (even ones with a good pedigree) that I can think of in the last 30 years.
Perhaps the OHEC feels the need to sensationalise headlines and stories to turn them into click fodder in the hope users might click on an ad while they're there?JackJohnson

jusphil wrote…

Just don't buy the echo, this type of reporting is just like the sport .....bad news and a video of it as well. If you keep buying it the more they will do it. I will not be buying it until they change the style of reporting.

Does anybody actually buy it? Or do they (like me) just read it online? I've only bought 4 or 5 newspapers (even ones with a good pedigree) that I can think of in the last 30 years.

Perhaps the OHEC feels the need to sensationalise headlines and stories to turn them into click fodder in the hope users might click on an ad while they're there?

Score: 0

lord god almighty
9:24pm Sat 6 Sep 14

I understand that water sports enthuiasts can take a miniature canister of oxygen with them that they can inhale if they get sucked down under a wave for a long time. Why dont workers in slurry pits have a similar tool ?

http://www.spareairx
treme.com/

I understand that water sports enthuiasts can take a miniature canister of oxygen with them that they can inhale if they get sucked down under a wave for a long time. Why dont workers in slurry pits have a similar tool ?
http://www.spareairx
treme.com/lord god almighty

I understand that water sports enthuiasts can take a miniature canister of oxygen with them that they can inhale if they get sucked down under a wave for a long time. Why dont workers in slurry pits have a similar tool ?

http://www.spareairx
treme.com/

Score: -6

JackJohnson
11:40am Sun 7 Sep 14

lord god almighty wrote…

I understand that water sports enthuiasts can take a miniature canister of oxygen with them that they can inhale if they get sucked down under a wave for a long time. Why dont workers in slurry pits have a similar tool ?

http://www.spareairx

treme.com/

It's a little more complicated than just having no air immediately available. Some of the gases in slurry are highly toxic, can be very fast acting and can mask the sense of smell. This accident involved a fall of heavy machinery so there's no way for anyone not directly involved in the investigation to know if the operator would have been able, or had time, to get to a cylinder of Spare Air. Even if he could have there's no way to know if he could have saved himself (or been rescued) before a cylinder of Spare Air ran out.

There are lots of health and safety rules to be followed including barriers, wearing of rescue harnesses/line, breathing apparatus and training for potential rescuers to prevent them from also becoming casualties - if not fatalities. The rules, and available training, should be enough to prevent this type of tragedy if followed adequately.

I'll leave it for the investigators to work out what went wrong this time, and what to change/improve to try to prevent it from happening to any other farm workers or their families.

Farms. So innocuous, yet unbelievably dangerous places.

[quote][p][bold]lord god almighty[/bold] wrote:
I understand that water sports enthuiasts can take a miniature canister of oxygen with them that they can inhale if they get sucked down under a wave for a long time. Why dont workers in slurry pits have a similar tool ?
http://www.spareairx
treme.com/[/p][/quote]It's a little more complicated than just having no air immediately available. Some of the gases in slurry are highly toxic, can be very fast acting and can mask the sense of smell. This accident involved a fall of heavy machinery so there's no way for anyone not directly involved in the investigation to know if the operator would have been able, or had time, to get to a cylinder of Spare Air. Even if he could have there's no way to know if he could have saved himself (or been rescued) before a cylinder of Spare Air ran out.
There are lots of health and safety rules to be followed including barriers, wearing of rescue harnesses/line, breathing apparatus and training for potential rescuers to prevent them from also becoming casualties - if not fatalities. The rules, and available training, should be enough to prevent this type of tragedy if followed adequately.
I'll leave it for the investigators to work out what went wrong this time, and what to change/improve to try to prevent it from happening to any other farm workers or their families.
Farms. So innocuous, yet unbelievably dangerous places.JackJohnson

lord god almighty wrote…

I understand that water sports enthuiasts can take a miniature canister of oxygen with them that they can inhale if they get sucked down under a wave for a long time. Why dont workers in slurry pits have a similar tool ?

http://www.spareairx

treme.com/

It's a little more complicated than just having no air immediately available. Some of the gases in slurry are highly toxic, can be very fast acting and can mask the sense of smell. This accident involved a fall of heavy machinery so there's no way for anyone not directly involved in the investigation to know if the operator would have been able, or had time, to get to a cylinder of Spare Air. Even if he could have there's no way to know if he could have saved himself (or been rescued) before a cylinder of Spare Air ran out.

There are lots of health and safety rules to be followed including barriers, wearing of rescue harnesses/line, breathing apparatus and training for potential rescuers to prevent them from also becoming casualties - if not fatalities. The rules, and available training, should be enough to prevent this type of tragedy if followed adequately.

I'll leave it for the investigators to work out what went wrong this time, and what to change/improve to try to prevent it from happening to any other farm workers or their families.

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