Doesn't mean it is moral or wise. Saturation bombing with strategic nukes would also calm the world. And to be fair to everybody, I've always thought that abortion should be mandatory and universal. It would be a great world-calmer, to say the least. It has to be universal, or otherwise, to quote Kryten in "Tikka to Ride", one of my favourite Red Dwarf episodes, "you're just picking on the chickens".

Well yeah, if people start talking shiat on the Arabs then we've got multiple semetic groups being insulted. Granted a significant proportion of Israeli Jews aren't actually ethnically semitic, so I think we should all settle on a more specific word.

The "death cult" of Islam has only existed since the fall of the Ottoman empire. Not nearly long enough to be the cause of all the world's problems. Racist nationalist pro-war farktards, however, have always existed, except before nation states when they were tribalists.

PonceAlyosha:PonceAlyosha: The "death cult" of Islam has only existed since the fall of the Ottoman empire.

Clarification: meaning the popularization of Wahhabism, and even that's mostly in the latter half of this century.

The barbary pirates would like a word...

"...Jefferson later wrote that the Tripoli ambassador told him, "It was written in their Koran that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman (Muslim) who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to Paradise."

Joe Blowme:"...Jefferson later wrote that the Tripoli ambassador told him, "It was written in their Koran that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman (Muslim) who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to Paradise."

"Next we headed for the land of Bashan, where King Og and his army attacked us at Edrei. But the LORD told me, 'Do not be afraid of him, for I have given you victory over Og and his army, giving you his entire land. Treat him just as you treated King Sihon of the Amorites, who ruled in Heshbon.' So the LORD our God handed King Og and all his people over to us, and we killed them all. We conquered all sixty of his towns, the entire Argob region in his kingdom of Bashan. These were all fortified cities with high walls and barred gates. We also took many unwalled villages at the same time. We completely destroyed the kingdom of Bashan, just as we had destroyed King Sihon of Heshbon. We destroyed all the people in every town we conquered - men, women, and children alike. But we kept all the livestock for ourselves and took plunder from all the towns." (Deuteronomy 3:1-7 NLT)

theorellior:Joe Blowme: "...Jefferson later wrote that the Tripoli ambassador told him, "It was written in their Koran that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman (Muslim) who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to Paradise."

"Next we headed for the land of Bashan, where King Og and his army attacked us at Edrei. But the LORD told me, 'Do not be afraid of him, for I have given you victory over Og and his army, giving you his entire land. Treat him just as you treated King Sihon of the Amorites, who ruled in Heshbon.' So the LORD our God handed King Og and all his people over to us, and we killed them all. We conquered all sixty of his towns, the entire Argob region in his kingdom of Bashan. These were all fortified cities with high walls and barred gates. We also took many unwalled villages at the same time. We completely destroyed the kingdom of Bashan, just as we had destroyed King Sihon of Heshbon. We destroyed all the people in every town we conquered - men, women, and children alike. But we kept all the livestock for ourselves and took plunder from all the towns." (Deuteronomy 3:1-7 NLT)

Sounds like another Semitic Death-Cult to me!

So i am sure you have citation of people quoting Deuteronomy as justification in killing non believers? Or even believers who happen to be women trying to get educated? Right? Trying to justify retardation by pointing at other retardation is just... well... retarded.

In this thread I learned that it's OK to make sweeping generalizations about entire ethnic groups (provided it's not the Jews).

Statements like these are about as useful as "the Europeans hate the Africans" or "North Americans have no love for Latin Americans". (Pop quiz: which regional country is the biggest supporter of the Arab country Syria?). Apart from anything else, there are dimensions of religion that cut across ethnicity, and even countries that are primarily of one branch often have large minorities of the other. And even the popular categorizations into Shia and Sunni ignore the fact that each has numerous schools within it -- it's about as insightful as saying that northern Europe is Protestant and southern Europe is Catholic.

Bottom line: joining the minority of Americans who have figured out that Iranians are not Arabs is a first step, but it's not a "position" on mid-east politics.

PonceAlyosha:The Barbars did us a goddamn favor by forcing us to build a navy. I don't see how they're remotely a root of "what's wrong with the world," unless you're against eventual American military supremacy.

And the rise of Nazi and communist aggression led to the creation of the United Nations. So "go Nazis"?

It probably would calm them down to get the whole war thing out of their system, going by past precedent.Problem is they will also turn to more asymmetrical tactics in the long run. Since it will be proven that they can't win wars.

You'd prevent a nuclear Iran, but increase the chances of Iranians giving a chemical shell to some insane zealot.