I finally got past the "hermit Vikas" glitch and was able to finish up the companions quests. Haven't decided whether to end the affliction or not.

Not sure what changed, but I went exploring up near the cave where he got stuck to see if it was there was anything worth seeing and then fast traveled to dragonsreach for a last attempt to get him to respawn and he was right there, going on about the quest. Didn't have to wait or anything. I had tried that just outside the cave and spent a few minutes shouting him closer to the entrance to see if that would help. Then I got frustrated and tried to get him killed, but he is invincible as your follower.

Just glad to be past that now and on to the next part of the main quest. I will now be saving before any cave with a follower present, especially ones who are quest related.

As for the patch, it loads a lot faster with the install and looks just as good. I think the resistance bug is affecting me though as I took down a frost dragon and was getting hurt a lot from his breath as a Nord. Last time I fought any frost using creatures I wasn't taking anywhere as much damage. I hope it doesn't affect potion buffs.

Just be aware that the game doesn't stop, when you finish the main quest, so go ahead. Frankly, I'd say most people are missing out on some great abilities and stories by not doing the main quest early on, which I know previous games taught us to do.

Thanks for mentioning this. I stopped playing while waiting for the patch (I wasn't even out of the first location when I stopped) and I restarted today. I'll stick to the main quest (or pretty much so) for now per your suggestion.

Dammit, I just can't do it. I come into town fully planning on just selling some stuff and moving on and first thing you know I'm looking for the Gilt Beaver Claw in some dirty dungeon that hasn't been pressure washed since Thor Finger-Wagger came back from The Great Northern Unpleasantness And BBQ. Haven't these people heard of mops?

OK, now this is just plain crazy. I get to a bigger town and they say "hey, we spotted a dragon, go with these guys and kill it". Are you nuts? Have you seen one of these things? I soiled my underwear, sorry, my "beneath-my-tunic-cotton-thingees" the last time I ran into one of these horrible creatures and I can't get a new pair till I get paid at the end of Last Semen. Now you want me to go out there and actually try to kill one?

OK, so they talked me into it. I follow Carl the House Maid, I think that's what they called her, and off we go to the middle of freaking nowhere. Suddenly someone spots the flying beast and I ran into the damn tower and hid inside. There was screeching and howling and also a lot of noise from outside too. Finally I peeked outside and the nasty was almost dead so I shot a couple of arrows into it from the safety of the doorway. When it was dead I ran out and looted all the good stuff while Carl was making some speech. Yeah, sunshine, keep talking; these dragon bones must be worth something on E-bay.

Then everyone starts looking at me and saying how I have bad breath or something and suddenly they tell me I'm now called "Dragging Pants" or some such nonsense. I didn't hang around to listen, I was off to try to pawn the bones.

Eventually they drag me back up to the main house, err, keep, or whatever the weird dude with the tiara calls it. He says that since I'm Dragging Pants I have to go visit ZZ Top at their studios in High Hoth. I try to explain to him that first, I'm not even wearing pants, and second, that Hoth place is damn cold and like I said, I don't have any pants. But his mind is settled and what with all the guards I figure I'll humor him and leave and go anywhere but where the Empire might be expecting me to go.

But bad news. After he gives me a little hatchet he tells me he's assigned me Carl the House Maid to keep an eye on me, only it's not the same Carl. She says her name is Lydia but I have my doubts when I start humming to the tune to "Lydia the Tattooed Lady" and see doesn't recognize the tune. And she scares me a bit.

So we're off to see ZZ Top and maybe when I explain the mix-up to them they will let me sit in and jam with them. I think I have this enchanted lyre in my bag somewhere... let me look...

I had a very terrible time today,i had missed an Unusual Gem(Side quest for Vex in the Thieves guild to collect 24 of them),and it was in the Thalmor Embassy which you visit at the start of Act II,well you can only enter the place during the main quest..so i was screwed

however,i read up online,and found this Video,which i copied,and thankfully i was able to glitch myself back into the embassy and pick up the Gem...but what a pain it was trying to do it,it took me ages

Can you join neither and still finish the main story? Both sides are unappealing to me. Racists vs the "Empire", which is the lesser evil?

That's what I did. I felt the same way too about both factions. After I finished the main story I did the Empire story line. It's a completely seperate story from all of the dragon stuff. I wasn't really impressed with the Empire quests and story. Many were repetitive, and not near the quality of the main quest line.

Can you join neither and still finish the main story? Both sides are unappealing to me. Racists vs the "Empire", which is the lesser evil?

That's what I did. I felt the same way too about both factions. After I finished the main story I did the Empire story line. It's a completely seperate story from all of the dragon stuff. I wasn't really impressed with the Empire quests and story. Many were repetitive, and not near the quality of the main quest line.

Sorry, this is completely off topic, but your post dredged up something from my past. It's "separate", not "seperate". I remember this from forty (holy crap, forty?) years ago, watching an old half-hour police show called "Adam-12". The scene, which has stuck with me since then, has one officer typing up a report while the other looks over his shoulder. The over-the-shoulder guy says "You spelled that wrong. Remember, there's 'a rat' in 'separate'". I can't remember the names of my relatives, but I can remember "a rat" in "separate"

Can you join neither and still finish the main story? Both sides are unappealing to me. Racists vs the "Empire", which is the lesser evil?

That's what I did. I felt the same way too about both factions. After I finished the main story I did the Empire story line. It's a completely seperate story from all of the dragon stuff. I wasn't really impressed with the Empire quests and story. Many were repetitive, and not near the quality of the main quest line.

Sorry, this is completely off topic, but your post dredged up something from my past. It's "separate", not "seperate". I remember this from forty (holy crap, forty?) years ago, watching an old half-hour police show called "Adam-12". The scene, which has stuck with me since then, has one officer typing up a report while the other looks over his shoulder. The over-the-shoulder guy says "You spelled that wrong. Remember, there's 'a rat' in 'separate'". I can't remember the names of my relatives, but I can remember "a rat" in "separate"

That's awesome. I will remember that now Separate is one of many words that I routinely screw up without a spell check.

Can you join neither and still finish the main story? Both sides are unappealing to me. Racists vs the "Empire", which is the lesser evil?

That's what I did. I felt the same way too about both factions. After I finished the main story I did the Empire story line. It's a completely seperate story from all of the dragon stuff. I wasn't really impressed with the Empire quests and story. Many were repetitive, and not near the quality of the main quest line.

Sorry, this is completely off topic, but your post dredged up something from my past. It's "separate", not "seperate". I remember this from forty (holy crap, forty?) years ago, watching an old half-hour police show called "Adam-12". The scene, which has stuck with me since then, has one officer typing up a report while the other looks over his shoulder. The over-the-shoulder guy says "You spelled that wrong. Remember, there's 'a rat' in 'separate'". I can't remember the names of my relatives, but I can remember "a rat" in "separate"

That's awesome. I will remember that now Separate is one of many words that I routinely screw up without a spell check.

shouldn't this be in a seperate topic?

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Can you join neither and still finish the main story? Both sides are unappealing to me. Racists vs the "Empire", which is the lesser evil?

That's what I did. I felt the same way too about both factions. After I finished the main story I did the Empire story line. It's a completely seperate story from all of the dragon stuff. I wasn't really impressed with the Empire quests and story. Many were repetitive, and not near the quality of the main quest line.

Sorry, this is completely off topic, but your post dredged up something from my past. It's "separate", not "seperate". I remember this from forty (holy crap, forty?) years ago, watching an old half-hour police show called "Adam-12". The scene, which has stuck with me since then, has one officer typing up a report while the other looks over his shoulder. The over-the-shoulder guy says "You spelled that wrong. Remember, there's 'a rat' in 'separate'". I can't remember the names of my relatives, but I can remember "a rat" in "separate"

That's awesome. I will remember that now Separate is one of many words that I routinely screw up without a spell check.

shouldn't this be in a seperate topic?

No. You should of known that its definately acceptible for them to have there discussion here

Anyway, I received the guide from Amazon today, and the thing is just crazy. Over 650 pages with small text and presumably everything you could ever want to know aobut the game. It's also filled with checklists so you can keep track of everything you've done in the game. I plan to explore on my own first, and then use the guide to make sure I didn't miss anything.

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Can you join neither and still finish the main story? Both sides are unappealing to me. Racists vs the "Empire", which is the lesser evil?

That's what I did. I felt the same way too about both factions. After I finished the main story I did the Empire story line. It's a completely seperate story from all of the dragon stuff. I wasn't really impressed with the Empire quests and story. Many were repetitive, and not near the quality of the main quest line.

Sorry, this is completely off topic, but your post dredged up something from my past. It's "separate", not "seperate". I remember this from forty (holy crap, forty?) years ago, watching an old half-hour police show called "Adam-12". The scene, which has stuck with me since then, has one officer typing up a report while the other looks over his shoulder. The over-the-shoulder guy says "You spelled that wrong. Remember, there's 'a rat' in 'separate'". I can't remember the names of my relatives, but I can remember "a rat" in "separate"

That's awesome. I will remember that now Separate is one of many words that I routinely screw up without a spell check.

shouldn't this be in a seperate topic?

No. You should of known that its definately acceptible for them to have there discussion here

After 48 hours of playing, I hit my first significant quest bug in the game tonight...one that has made it impossible for me to become the Thane of Riften and buy a house there. I'll give the details here so that maybe someone else can avoid the same problem. I don't think describing this problem really warrants spoiler tags as it doesn't really give away anything significant...

In order to become Thane of Riften, you have to complete a series of quests to stop the skooma trade in Riften. The third part of this quest line requires you to clear a group of dark elves from Cragslane Cave. Unfortunately, that location is along the road on your way to Riften, and if you stop there and clear the cave along the way to the town (prior to receiving the quest from the Jarl of Riften), it will irreversibly break the quest because the enemies you need to kill to accomplish the goal will no longer be there when the jarl sends you to kill them. If you want to become Thane of Riften and buy the house there, you have to avoid visiting Cragslane Cave until the appropriate time.

I did a little search to see if this was a common problem and it looks to be a very consistent bug that affects anyone who clears the cave too soon. A console command has been identified to fix the quest on PC, but those of us playing on a console are out of luck unless you go back to an earlier save. In my case, that would mean giving up about 8 hours of play...not something I'm willing to do just for another house

Me and Myto had a problem with the Thane of Riften status as well,but it wasn't that part,it was after that and was able to buy a house,if we went to look at the house straight away then it would bug,if we bought the house and then straight away decorated it,it was fine

I know some people on that Thane of Riften quest are having problems with the Skooma part

most of the quest bugs i have are because i have done the thing they wanted before i have got the actual quest,i know its a big game but i am sure Bethesda should of realised this would happen,i for one started the game and then just went exploring and found 250 locations before i carried on with the game(i am on 341 now)Glitched quests for me:

bigger yet still relatively small side questsRepairing the Phial-the guy wants a briar heart,and points you to where there is a place that is populated with Forsworn and their Briar Chief,i had already killed everyone,and the waypoint points me to the dead chief who is empty because i had already looted his heart,i have the heart on me but can't use it,or any other Briarheart i come across

Arniel's Endeavor-i need to place a warped Gem Stone into a few dwarven converters and heat the converter up with a spell Arniel teaches me,they are pointed out on the map,i do the first and then it tells me to go to another one,so i go to another one and use the spell,but nothing happens...i have tried going to the other locations but still nothing happens

Miscellaneous questsUse Ward while student attacks you-this was early on in the game and when someone came up to me in whiterun said to use ward i mistakenly thought i had the spell in my home so i went back though the door and then came back out when i realised i was mistaken,but he had gone,never saw him again,but still have it in my journal

Report Leifnarr's death to his family-this is another i should of got the quest first,but i found the body first in a dungeon,the quest still popped up in my journal when i found the body,when i find the family,they don't give me the correct line to respond,so this is another that is still in my journal

Kill the Dragon at Eldersblood Peak-damn thing flies all over the place and then stays just enough away so i can't touch him with either Dragonrend or my Bow,and it's all jerky when it does fly...first time i went to him he was one of the flying backwards kind,now he flies forward but not very smoothly and always fucks off when i come close,and i always get bad slow down/frame rate problems when i do go for him

Find helm of Winterhold in Yngol Barrow-this one is so fucking annoying as i think this is for Thane status in Winterhold,you go to Yngol Barrow and have these bright light blue balls following you about making an odd noise,eventually you come to a ring door that you need the coral claw,i have the coral claw and when i match up the symbols on the ring door,and then select the centre piece nothing happens,so i can't progress through the door,i have even gone back home and took the rest of my claws there and tried to use them instead,but it doesn't work

Kill the bandit leader at Uttering Hills Camp-no waypoint,so when i do find out where Uttering Hills camp is(which i have already cleared because it was part of the thieves guild questline) i go there and kill everyone and the bandit leader,nothing happens,and they are Sommerset Shadows not Bandits if that matters

not bad i suppose for how much time i have put in,but still it would be nice if i was able to clear these from my journal and the 'quest' items from my item list..i have had a few quests where i have needed to reload and it has fixed itself,and thankfully none of the main quests have problems

I finished the Companions questline last night,which was good but disappointing at how short it was,i started and finished it last night,took no more than 2-3 hrs,whereas the thieves for me was just as long as the main questline and the Mages was a decent length as well..not started Brotherhood yet

I would ask Aela for work at the Companions and she was babble on about some Totem we have to go and get,and my waypoint took us to Sunderstone Gorge

when we arrive there,we go through the cave mouth to a loading screen.....and my 360 locks up,this happened 3 times at the same point last night before i gave up and went to bed

as the place is random,i may try a autosave for before i get the quest and see if Aela gives us another place,and then at a later time i will check out Sunderstone Gorge and see if it crashes on me,on my own(it shouldn't do,i think i have cleared the place out in the past)

I managed to fix my problem,i just got to Aela quicker than last time and she gave me a completely different mission,so i did that and then she gave me the totem quest,and this time in a different location,so i did that last night

However...who was it who had the problem with the companions and the jailbreak guy?,well i have the same problem,no waypoint to find him,remembering what you said i reloaded a save before i asked him for a job,and will either experiment or hope that some patch in the future will fix it

so my main play thru took 204 hours,and an achievement didn't unlock 'Oblivion Walker' collect 15 daedric Artifacts,there are 16 so you are allowed to let one pass,i thought i did it right,but i heard differently...apparently the Skeleton Key even though listed(and listed for the achievement)does not count towarsd the deadric 15.....that means without the skeleton key,there are only 15,which is what you need,right at the beginning of the game i let the Skull of Corruption go thinking fine i will get the rest and still be cool...wrong

so after i failed to get that achievement,i finished up with everything else,getting the remaining achievements(which was what brought my total playtime to 204hrs)

Then i start the game again concentrating on getting Daedric Artfacts,i was now an Imperial hottie called Belinda,i played this time on very easy and went through the daedric artifacts one by one,Ill met by moonlight can be done so that you get both artifacts available to you instead of the one that is supposed to be(which i also missed out of taking advantage of on my first playthru),and they both add to your total

i got the achievement with still needing the Ebony Mail,and not even going for the Skeleton key

i unlocked the achievement after 19 and a half hours on this second playthru

so 1000/1000 baby!!!

so if anyone is in the same place i was having let one of the daedric artifacts go thinking you will still be cool,you wont be...unless you still have Ill met by moonlight to go,or if you did it and got the ring,then you can go back and get the skin

Favourite storyline i think is the Dark Brotherhood,followed by the Thieves guild...The Mages and The Companions were very short and shit,civil war was so-so as well

but with there plenty to do in the game it didn't stick in my mind that much

Still unable to start Blood on the Ice mission in both games,so i have still not done that(and not got the house in Windhelm either),and i have not maxed my level to 81 as i have not maxed out all my skills

I got married to Aela The Huntress from The Companions,i told her to wash her face for the wedding,i guess she didn't hear me,and she sets up a shop in your house,and i noticed in her things for sale were her wedding ring,LOL,so i guess the honeymoon is over

great game though,bring on The Elder Scrolls VI

actually the DLC should be good,if they are aiming for more shivering isles type DLC,as that is still my favourite DLC of all time

Once you get to "Dark Brotherhood Forever" (I think that's the name), where you are in Dawnstar Sanctuary and I am the official "Listener" do the quests get/stay interesting, or is it just a series of meet contact, kill victim repeated over and over? I'm getting a little tired of being an evil, murdering bastard, and if the quests are just going to be kill next victim over and over, I'm ready to move on. If, there is some more cool DB storyline to come by doing these, I would like to know that, without knowing the details.

I am at around 70 hrs in, level 26.8 or so. Still having fun. Done with main quest (fun, but anti-climactic and seems mostly pointless since Dragons continue to attack everywhere) and sided with the slightly less evil Nord rebels (they didn't try to execute me at the beginning of the game, so I went with them). Amazed at how compelling some of these side quests are, which has kept me playing, but I am getting a little fatigued now. By far and away the best TES/Bethesda game, and the only one I would rate highly.

Finally got some time in with this. Graphics are improved, the score is even better than I remember, each side quest, no matter how tangential to the story, are compelling and have that "I just have to see what happens" feel, and the dialogue shows true effort in its development, including accents, emotion, etc.

My biggest dislike is the compass. Locations will show up on the compass, but until you actually discover them you have no idea how close or how far they are, if they're worth visiting, what they might be, etc. If it starts to show up on your compass then it would be a huge help if those locations then showed up on the game's map. I spend a little too much time wandering after locations that appear on my compass. But overall the game is fantastic and at times overwhelming (do I learn to make potions, weapons, armor, do I help with farming to make some money, do I train as a mage, do I learn to cook?).

I'm going to get a lot of mileage out of this one.

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My biggest dislike is the compass. Locations will show up on the compass, but until you actually discover them you have no idea how close or how far they are, if they're worth visiting, what they might be, etc.

I think locations only show up on the compass if you're within a certain range of them and as you get closer the icons on the compass become bigger. I also believe that each location type has specific compass icon. For instance, a town or inn looks like a house, a ritual stone looks like a little stone, a dragon nest looks like a dragon head, etc.

My biggest dislike is the compass. Locations will show up on the compass, but until you actually discover them you have no idea how close or how far they are, if they're worth visiting, what they might be, etc.

I think locations only show up on the compass if you're within a certain range of them and as you get closer the icons on the compass become bigger. I also believe that each location type has specific compass icon. For instance, a town or inn looks like a house, a ritual stone looks like a little stone, a dragon nest looks like a dragon head, etc.

As I was typing my assessment I realized that this is probably the case, that you first have to be within range of a location for it to show up as an icon. It would be nice if they had some sort of map key, though, as some symbols aren't entirely intuitive when you first start out playing the game.

I also find myself reading every book I find. Some are fairly extensive and the stories entertaining and fun to read. To think that someone wrote these stories scattered throughout Skyrim without any guarantee that they'd even be found, read, or seen, is just unbelievable.

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