An employee DMed me on Twitter, seemed confused about Raspberry Pi's tweet about emails going out, and wanted to know whether I did actually receive the information in an email from them, or whether I just looked up the order.

My guess is that it's a comedy of errors at play. Hundreds of nerds are refrshing their Newark/e14 order status' many times a day (I'm one too, I admit) and thus quite a large handful noticed the (erronous) ETA change in short notice.

If I had to guess, some data entry monkey was to push the Apr 3rd ship date out a bit to Apr 16th. Instead, the monkey - who was using drop-down calendar entry, or something equally error-prone - accidentally hit 'A' twice and thus set it for August instead of April. Or at least it sounds plausible as I've been that monkey myself at least once over the years in various jobs.

And thus e14/newark customer service doesn't know what the gently caress, the rPi foundation doesn't know what the gently caress, and everyone's dodging blame and subtly pointing fingers while everyone sorts what from the gently caress.

ok apparently the latest issue is that farnell and element14 are refusing to ship until the rpi is CE certified. It's a little ridiculous that they're requiring that and even more ridiculous that nobody knew about it until now.

Eh I'm not totally surprised. Both RS and Farnell have been more than open about the fact that due to the sheer volume of rPi orders, their lawyers are making GBS threads bricks about distributing non-certified boards that may leak and/or be susceptible to interference, at that volume.

Its really just another sign of the rPi foundations naivete, as they didn't really grasp the demand for their product - nor the consequences of signing away distribution to RS/Farnell. Not really their fault, but still shows a lack of foresight.

edit - also, RS and Farnell have been bitching about / hinting at certification for a week now. So it's not a *huge* surprise.

quote:

Update, 6pm Mar 28: we have spoken with BIS this morning, and they have confirmed that, given the volumes involved and the demographic mix of likely users, any development board exemption is not applicable to us; as a result, even the first uncased developer units of Raspberry Pi will require a CE mark prior to sale in the EU

Jesus loving Christ. Couldn't you have contacted the UK Government a little earlier? Even a week ago when your manufacturers were disagreeing about CE compliance?

DNova posted:

ok apparently the latest issue is that farnell and element14 are refusing to ship until the rpi is CE certified. It's a little ridiculous that they're requiring that and even more ridiculous that nobody knew about it until now.

This isn't as uncommon as you think, I've worked for a few businesses that were close to final sign off when tradmark issues or design/compliance issues were found in the final days to sign off, just the right people were not informed at the right time

Philthy posted:

I'm thinking robotics. An entire platform in the palm of your hands. Today we have Arduino, PICAXE, etc which are faceless programmable microcontrollers that you hook up to your PC to upload your code, then test things out.

With the RPi, the entire thing is the dev environment, with the ability to run monitors and network connectivity right from brains. It's a totally contained environment in the palm of your hand. Be it for yourself, hobby, or students. The GPIO is going to allow this to interface pretty easily to everything that exists today. It sucks less than a watt using 1080p streaming, and far far far less doing simple path finding and adjusting motor speeds.

I was thinking the same thing.

How well do you suppose the Raspberry Pi could handle real-time image processing? It could be the perfect solution for playing with vision in a small robot. All we'd need is some Linux-based vision software that doesn't require any knowledge of the science of image processing.

Yes they are. I have no idea why they are, as both RS and Farnell have stated it's just the EU that concerns them re: shipping 'dev boards' without CE... but alas, many of us North Americans are also seeing the delay.

Lukano posted:

Yes they are. I have no idea why they are, as both RS and Farnell have stated it's just the EU that concerns them re: shipping 'dev boards' without CE... but alas, many of us North Americans are also seeing the delay.

Also sup Javid

Because FCC certification is also required.

frumpsnake fucked around with this message at Mar 31, 2012 around 18:35

This is still really loving stupid, everyone involved knew (I hope so anyways) that the product would need to go through compliance testing. It'll take even longer to ship the board(s) if they can't pass, and changes will need to be made to get them to the pass (component or artwork) if necessary.

Factory Factory posted:

Stupid question: because of the GPIO header, the Raspberry Pi can do anything an Arduino can? Or does the Arduino have some other additional features?

It can do quite a lot more, but it may not be as straightforward and simple to use as an arduino, depending on the task. Also, in case it matters to you, there are no headers on the board. If you want to bring out the GPIO you need to add your own headers.

Longinus00 posted:

I think they were counting on it falling into the same category as beagle/pandaboard. I bet the reason they're running into the issue is because the project is so popular.

Except that (recent) Beagleboards and Arduinos etc. are certified for this very same reason.

They're running into the issue because they're loving incompetent and didn't ask the actual government agencies and bodies like they should have rather than just googling Beagleboard reference manuals.

frumpsnake fucked around with this message at Apr 1, 2012 around 23:55

Only a bunch of angry manchildren would be angry at a group of people who develop a miraculously cheap computer for the poorest of the poor and children. You're seriously raging at a charity because they were not prepared for the tens of thousands of customers they never thought they would have. Think about that for a few minutes and grow the gently caress up, you'll get your toy in a few months.

angrytech posted:

It's incredible easy to suck my own dick. Turns out you don't need to remove a rib after all.

angrytech posted:

What's an atv3?

Based on Google I'm guessing apple TV 3. No idea otherwise. I'm one of those who wants a few rpis for ultra-cheap HTPCs, and apple TV isn't really comparable at all. I can't imagine anyone cross-shopping the two devices.

This is veering dangerously offtopic but what price premium? If there's another cheap box to run XBMC on then I'd love to know about it as the only options I know of are literally
-Raspberry Pi
-atv3 when a jailbreak is released.

~Coxy posted:

This is veering dangerously offtopic but what price premium? If there's another cheap box to run XBMC on then I'd love to know about it as the only options I know of are literally
-Raspberry Pi
-atv3 when a jailbreak is released.

Oh holy poo poo, I didn't realize they were as cheap as they are. $99 makes a lot more sense. Also, I realize that XBMC is probably an app on iOS and not an OS huh?
Together that makes a lot more sense. My apologies for the confusion.

angrytech posted:

Oh holy poo poo, I didn't realize they were as cheap as they are. $99 makes a lot more sense. Also, I realize that XBMC is probably an app on iOS and not an OS huh?
Together that makes a lot more sense. My apologies for the confusion.