I'll give you a hint on one of them, he's consistently made the playoffs

Belichick?

Don't mistake me. Jay Gruden is an upgrade over Mike and Kyle, especially if he turns the defense over to the right guy. But it's disappointing nonetheless. I was hoping BA was good for something more than bringing in his buddy's troubled little brother. Perception is reality, and I don't think Jay Gruden to Washingtion helps with any bad perceptions of the franchise. But, if it opens the door for Jon Gruden, maybe it becomes the right situation...

Don't mistake me. Jay Gruden is an upgrade over Mike and Kyle, especially if he turns the defense over to the right guy. But it's disappointing nonetheless. I was hoping BA was good for something more than bringing in his buddy's troubled little brother. Perception is reality, and I don't think Jay Gruden to Washingtion helps with any bad perceptions of the franchise. But, if it opens the door for Jon Gruden, maybe it becomes the right situation...

Incredible. Really, just amazing.

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Well I searched the internets for football coaches drunken driving. I got Sandusky jr (no surprise there) Adam Zimmer (related to mike Zimmer?) and our new HC Gruden. Looks like a pretty small group of lowlifes.

Who's the big name you're referring to SS? And why's he gotten a pass from the nfl?

Well I searched the internets for football coaches drunken driving. I got Sandusky jr (no surprise there) Adam Zimmer (related to mike Zimmer?) and our new HC Gruden. Looks like a pretty small group of lowlifes.

Who's the big name you're referring to SS? And why's he gotten a pass from the nfl?

I'll give you a hint: his team was one of the eight featured this weekend.

Well I searched the internets for football coaches drunken driving. I got Sandusky jr (no surprise there) Adam Zimmer (related to mike Zimmer?) and our new HC Gruden. Looks like a pretty small group of lowlifes.

Who's the big name you're referring to SS? And why's he gotten a pass from the nfl?

You know what? It's not even worth it. Your last post pretty much let me know you've made up your mind about Jay Gruden and anything he's accomplished you want to dismiss because of his last name and one mistake in his life.

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You know what? It's not even worth it. Your last post pretty much let me know you've made up your mind about Jay Gruden and anything he's accomplished you want to dismiss because of his last name and one mistake in his life.

You know what? It's not even worth it. Your last post pretty much let me know you've made up your mind about Jay Gruden and anything he's accomplished you want to dismiss because of his last name and one mistake in his life.

Do you really think that he only drove drunk once.... The time he got caught? Please. I actually like jay gruden, but it does call in question his maturity and leadership. It's definitely something for the CON column and it shouldn't be ignored. Still, I think he's one of the better options we have. We picked a bad year to fire an excellent hall of fame-worthy coach, so it's not like there are a lot of legitimately good options.

Well geez drunk driving actually makes you a better person. Who knew! Shame on the nfl allowing this kind of crap among HCs. Players are young and dumb enough to make bad decisions without the team leader doing it and actually justifying it in public. Unbelievable. I hope the niners get destroyed next wknd.

Don't mistake me. Jay Gruden is an upgrade over Mike and Kyle, especially if he turns the defense over to the right guy. But it's disappointing nonetheless. I was hoping BA was good for something more than bringing in his buddy's troubled little brother. Perception is reality, and I don't think Jay Gruden to Washingtion helps with any bad perceptions of the franchise. But, if it opens the door for Jon Gruden, maybe it becomes the right situation...

WTF? How is Jay Gruden "troubled"? By a DUI many years ago?

JG has done wonders with Dalton and the Bengals offense. And, although neither you nor I know him, professionals who do seem to think that he has the leadership qualities required of a HC beyond the X's and O's. This is why several teams, not just his "buddies" at the Skins, are considering him for HC.

I'm not lobbying for Jay Gruden - I don't have a favorite in the process. But to dismiss him the way that you have is not just disrespectful, it's football ignorant.