You know your desperate and wrong as police cheif when. Hey buddy check your chair you may notice it's a public chair.

BartSimpson
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:17 pm

CanadianJeff wrote:

You know your desperate and wrong as police cheif when. Hey buddy check your chair you may notice it's a public chair.

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"My faith is foundational to everything that I do," (Chief Clunis) said.

It's a public chair that's currently occupied by someone who believes in prayer. Unless your plan is to prohibit people of faith from serving in government then you have to accept that they come to their jobs with their faith.

PluggyRug
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:27 pm

Look at the other side.

Criminal "Dear God please help me to carry our this armed robbery without any repercussions to myself. Amen"

Think there will be anyone listening?

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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:40 pm

Wouldn't be the need to pray if pot were legal.

Gunnair
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:41 pm

CanadianJeff wrote:

You know your desperate and wrong as police cheif when. Hey buddy check your chair you may notice it's a public chair.

That's some black and white thinking you have going there.

ShepherdsDog
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:44 pm

He was the WPS chaplain before he was named Chief, and you're surprised that he believes in prayer??

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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:53 pm

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"No one chose him to be police of our souls," Schafer said.

"I think it's entirely inappropriate for a chief of police, in his role as chief of police, to be advocating prayer either to his colleagues on the police force or to the general public."

This

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But Clunis said faith informs every part of his being, and he doesn't think he should leave that part of himself behind when he goes to work.

I have to, and I am not in public office. So really? Yes you should, UNLESS your job is in church.

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He said all citizens, even those who do not believe in prayer, should think about what they can do to build a safer city.

Of course. But what does that have to do with religion? Which ever works best for you. "Even those who do not believe in prayer" Really? We, who do not believe in prayer, don't think about what we can do to build a safer city/country/community/family?

romanP
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:55 pm

I'm pretty sure the Dalai Lama said the same thing in slightly different words. His version was more like "if more people spent more time meditating every day, there would be a lot less violence in the world". It's probably true. Prayer is a form of meditation, and you don't have to be religious to do it.

Jughead
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:27 pm

We should be thankful that we all live in a country where we can enjoy our freedoms. One of those freedoms is "Freedom of Religion".

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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:42 pm

Jughead wrote:

We should be thankful that we all live in a country where we can enjoy our freedoms. One of those freedoms is "Freedom of Religion".

Sure. In your own time.

BartSimpson
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:50 pm

PluggyRug wrote:

Look at the other side.

Criminal "Dear God please help me to carry our this armed robbery without any repercussions to myself. Amen"

Think there will be anyone listening?

Always.

Prayers are always listened to and always answered.

And many times the answer is no.

Gunnair
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:50 pm

Brenda wrote:

Jughead wrote:

We should be thankful that we all live in a country where we can enjoy our freedoms. One of those freedoms is "Freedom of Religion".

Sure. In your own time.

As has been pointed out by some, secular humanism is close to Christianity but without the stories.

Will we put a hold on that to even the playing field?

Curtman

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:50 pm

This is hilarious.

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"If you're praying for your neighbour, I don't think you'll be out there hating your neighbour or fighting with your neighbour," he added.

That's all fine, except some kids are in the back lane burning down your garage while you're singing kumbaya with the neighbours.

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Schafer said there are many people in Winnipeg who don't hold any particular religious beliefs, and those individuals may take offence to Clunis's views.

Who cares, really? People get offended by lots of stupid things. They'll get over it.

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"People who hold public office and who also have deeply-held private religious convictions have got to learn to separate the two," he said.

But Clunis said faith informs every part of his being, and he doesn't think he should leave that part of himself behind when he goes to work.

I think if we have a police chief who believes in talking snakes, and miracles that's the bigger issue.

BartSimpson
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:52 pm

Brenda wrote:

Jughead wrote:

We should be thankful that we all live in a country where we can enjoy our freedoms. One of those freedoms is "Freedom of Religion".