126 any duties for the-First Lady Maggie Willias? Not knowledge. Any duties the Vice President? No. And this during your tenure. believe you stated earlier that while you were the Office Personnel Security Mr. Livingstone did some advance work. Hmm-hmm. Can you give any indication how often did advance work, how much time spent? think maybe three times did and the longest period .of time was tw6 weeks when went ' Normandy. your understanding that went Normandy toadvance work for the trip? Hmm-hmm. did.the D-Day celebration thing. Right. When did.you first meet Mr. Marceca? think stated previously the Presidential you know when Mr. Livingstone first met'Mr. Marceca, did ever tell you when first met Mr. Marceca? didn't tell specifically hen first met Mr. Marceca but did mention that met Marceca
his previous advance days the Mondale campaign.
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Tarver? Joseph Tarver? T-A-R-V-E-R. Not knowledge Hannah Bond, B-o-n-d?
1.0 don't know, dent think so.
1.1. Simon Kahn, K-A-H-N? 1.2 have idea.
1.3 Mark S-C-H-U-L-H-0-F? No. presume you dont know whether Craig Livingstone knew any those individuls? clue. you recall any convrsati6ns, discussions memos !egarding delays sending Mr. Livingstone's FBI report the Secret Service? Delays that took long get there the Secret Service? Yes. some point w9uld have been returned the White House and then some later point would have
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almost HIRSHLAND: think we're pretty close. MR. HIRSHLAND.: Has any request been made you that the White House the Department Justice pay your legal fee9 t.his
matter? wish they would, but, no.
MR. SRERE: Can off the record for just
moment?
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MR. SCHANZER: Before start just want say
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the question witnesses qbout their att..orney's fees. don't really believe appropriate angle this inquiry and it's been asked only selectively certain
witnesses. And just want note for the record that Mr. Dennis Sculirnbrerie--in parte interview before the--ex parte meaning majority only interview with the committee-7 was never asked who was paying his attorney's fees. And
s matter fact, here how the interview ended. says the transcript and want read this into the record: "Obviously your insights have been
extremely helpful us, appreciate you your counsel, wlfe, taking time out o-f your '.3i:::hedules come and share
-------yov,r thoughts. J:_you-hav-any clean--ups,-any-thoughts ia-----14 the middle the night you woulp like 'share with .s, certaily through Maggie, have any thoughts, hope you don't mind you will. try reach back and clarify things both ways before. appreciate your time. are
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MR. HIRSHLAND: I1d like reit'erate for the
that the exact same appreciation extended you.
MR. SCHANZER: Let finish statement.
man imply that didn't appreciate this witness. MR. HIRSHLAND: You did but do. MR. SCHANZER: What was trying imply that
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