Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 9th January 2013:Times are UTCToggle Colours

00:00:27 <Stablean> <V453000> you wont learn it if people constantly help you happy ;)
00:00:46 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok
00:00:53 <Stablean> <Dixon296> this is true
00:02:25 <Stablean> <Dixon296> best thing to do is try keep it as simple as you can and make sure all tracks can join all tracks
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00:02:37 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok
00:03:00 <Stablean> <Dixon296> you want to have another go ?
00:03:22 <Stablean> <Dixon296> then if you still need help i will help you
00:03:36 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok
00:04:22 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> if u can not doo the bbh i wlll try to finsh it to mor
00:04:26 <Stablean> <Dixon296> like V says you will never do it if we do it for you all the time
00:04:36 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
00:04:58 <Stablean> <Dixon296> i can do it but i want you to learn to do it aswell :)
00:05:44 <Stablean> <V453000> I will give you a hint
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00:05:48 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok i am redey to woch u
00:05:50 <Stablean> <V453000> whenever you are stuck
00:05:52 <Stablean> <V453000> make a scheme
00:06:04 <Stablean> <V453000> simple L_R scheme like that
00:06:07 <Stablean> <V453000> can help you orientate in the hub
00:06:10 <Stablean> <Dixon296> listen to V
00:06:17 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
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00:06:30 <Stablean> <V453000> try that
00:06:37 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok thanks
00:06:51 <Stablean> <Dixon296> what
00:07:26 <Stablean> <V453000> L_R scheme of the hub dixon
00:07:36 <Stablean> <V453000> just built aside
00:07:51 <Stablean> <Dixon296> missed it
00:08:44 <Stablean> <V453000> rather place just signs for happy
00:08:51 <Stablean> <V453000> instead of building it for him id say :)
00:08:57 <Stablean> <V453000> but that is up to you guys
00:09:15 <V453000> !auto
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00:09:51 <Stablean> <V453000> either way good night :)
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00:10:01 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> gn v
00:10:03 <Stablean> <Dixon296> im going to build my own
00:10:05 <Stablean> <Dixon296> nn
00:10:24 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> k
00:12:34 <Stablean> <Dixon296> right A and b
00:12:49 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep i see it
00:13:15 <Stablean> <Dixon296> need to go to all the other a,s
00:13:34 <Stablean> <Dixon296> and the same for all 3 sides
00:13:36 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok
00:15:46 <Stablean> <Dixon296> stop the trains away from the hub delete it and start again and i will sign the connection and you try connect it
00:16:44 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok bbh has no tran on it
00:19:07 <Stablean> <Dixon296> ok
00:19:34 <Stablean> <Dixon296> you got main lines
00:19:42 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
00:19:44 <Stablean> <Dixon296> 3 main lines
00:19:58 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
00:23:08 <Stablean> <Dixon296> right if we aim to connect them first then we can mix after
00:23:20 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok
00:26:00 <Stablean> <Dixon296> like that
00:26:06 <Stablean> <Dixon296> in sinc
00:26:16 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ar ok
00:26:31 <Stablean> <Dixon296> do those bridges need to be that long
00:27:27 <Stablean> <Dixon296> more room then
00:28:21 <Stablean> <Dixon296> see this
00:28:24 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
00:29:02 <Stablean> <Dixon296> they need spliting to go down
00:30:36 <Stablean> <Dixon296> thats what i mean by split
00:30:46 <Stablean> <Dixon296> simple easy :)
00:30:48 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ar ok
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00:34:14 <Stablean> <lucas> hi
00:34:18 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi
00:34:25 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi
00:34:40 <Stablean> <lucas> is it the same happy that was playing like half a year ago?
00:35:02 <Stablean> <Dixon296> yea but a different dixon :P
00:35:02 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
00:35:16 <Stablean> <lucas> another dixon?:P
00:35:34 <Stablean> <lucas> you have a jam btw
00:35:40 <Stablean> <Dixon296> yup there are many of me
00:35:42 <Stablean> <lucas> feningbury woods
00:35:49 <Stablean> <Dixon296> no we dont
00:35:59 <Stablean> <lucas> yes you do
00:36:07 <Stablean> <lucas> signal is stending the wrong way there
00:36:10 <Stablean> <lucas> feningbury woods
00:36:20 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yer we ar doing a hbb
00:36:30 <Stablean> <lucas> nvm -.-
00:36:36 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok dixon whonts nexs
00:36:54 <Stablean> <Dixon296> oh yea ty
00:37:16 <Stablean> <Dixon296> thought you was on about the stopped trains
00:37:34 <Stablean> <lucas> happy improved his building^^
00:37:48 <Stablean> <Dixon296> had help :)
00:37:55 <Stablean> <Dixon296> right happy
00:37:58 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
00:38:24 <Stablean> <lucas> yo do still have some bridges out of sync:P
00:38:36 <Stablean> <Dixon296> 1 goes to 2
00:39:34 <Stablean> <Dixon296> 3 has to go to 2 aswell
00:39:52 <Stablean> <Dixon296> with a split to 4
00:40:24 <Stablean> <Dixon296> you gotta get 3 to 2 first m8
00:40:42 <Stablean> <lucas> both:P
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00:41:29 <Stablean> <Dixon296> yea im trying to do it so he can just mirror for the other side
00:41:40 <Stablean> <Dixon296> happy
00:41:50 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
00:41:50 <Stablean> <Dixon296> 3 to 2 now:)
00:42:42 <Stablean> <Dixon296> that was wrong
00:42:48 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ar
00:43:11 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yer rone won
00:43:23 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :)
00:43:37 <Stablean> <Dixon296> thats it
00:44:05 <Stablean> <Dixon296> keep signaling so you dont confuse yourself like that :)
00:45:13 <Stablean> <Dixon296> so this is the hardest bit getting 3 cross to 2
00:45:31 <Stablean> <Dixon296> see?
00:45:41 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
00:45:59 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> tunall it
00:46:49 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> woops i spl that rone i thinke
00:46:55 <Stablean> <Dixon296> i would kill the bridges make the hard connection the redo the bridges
00:48:30 <Stablean> <Dixon296> think about it
00:51:08 <Stablean> <Dom> hello
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00:51:20 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi dom how things
00:51:26 <Stablean> <Dom> hello
00:51:28 <Stablean> <Dom> good and you
00:51:32 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> good
00:51:50 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi dom
00:52:08 <Stablean> <Dom> hello
00:52:14 <Stablean> <Dixon296> do your signals
00:52:41 <Stablean> <Dom> you may have a jam xD
00:53:03 <Stablean> <Dom> btw the thing you are building atm should be a bbh
00:53:19 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
00:53:21 <Stablean> <Dixon296> it will be
00:53:43 <Stablean> <Dixon296> happy is learning
00:53:45 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> wate sume thin not rite
00:53:53 <Stablean> <Dom> nice :)
00:54:11 <Stablean> <Dixon296> what not right
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00:55:09 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> nufing i for got whot side i am drive on
00:55:20 <Stablean> <Dixon296> kk
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00:55:28 <Stablean> <Dixon296> 2 splits to do
00:56:04 <Stablean> <Dixon296> i will signal for you
00:56:12 <Stablean> <Dixon296> you build :)
00:56:30 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok
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00:57:16 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :)
00:58:01 <Stablean> <Dixon296> split it back abit
00:59:28 <Stablean> <Dixon296> what about this
01:00:10 <Stablean> <Dixon296> ?
01:00:30 <Stablean> <Dixon296> happy wi that?
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01:00:57 <Stablean> <Dom> do not forgett the mergers :)
01:01:11 <Stablean> <Dixon296> right leave that for now and do the other split
01:01:33 <Stablean> <Dixon296> like i would forget that
01:01:51 <Stablean> <Dom> ofc ;)
01:02:25 <Stablean> <Dixon296> dont want to confuse him with that yet:)
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01:08:10 <Stablean> <V453000> moo
01:08:14 <Stablean> <Dom> miau
01:08:24 <Stablean> <Dom> i like the chameleon trains :D
01:08:26 <Stablean> <V453000> :)
01:08:44 <Stablean> <Dom> haven't tried them yet
01:08:51 <Stablean> <Dom> but maybe tomorrow if i find some time
01:09:15 <Stablean> <Dixon296> good for short TL
01:09:37 <Stablean> <V453000> the best for TL0.5-2
01:09:44 <Stablean> <Dixon296> right wait now happy
01:09:53 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok
01:10:24 <Stablean> <V453000> I think it would be nice if they changed colour more often
01:10:26 <Stablean> <V453000> like randomly
01:10:41 <Stablean> <V453000> just length is cute but ..
01:10:51 <Stablean> <V453000> perhaps some colour range random
01:10:51 <Stablean> <Dom> they change colour? :D
01:10:53 <Stablean> <V453000> yeah
01:10:59 <Stablean> <Dom> nice :D
01:11:01 <Stablean> <V453000> chameleon .. :)
01:11:07 <Stablean> <V453000> they change colour depending on length
01:11:29 <Stablean> <V453000> I think I will make a lot more colours and add randoms
01:11:53 <Stablean> <V453000> just to make them change colour MORE
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01:18:25 <Stablean> <Dixon296> looking good happy
01:18:36 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
01:19:02 <Stablean> <Dixon296> just 2 merges to do and you built your first BBH :)
01:19:40 <Stablean> <Dom> you just need to picture the thing in your head and remember which line goes where and the rest is easy :)
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01:23:14 <Stablean> <Dixon296> n
01:23:16 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> gn
01:23:42 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok i see your sign dixon
01:23:44 <Stablean> <Dixon296> ok we gonna make the 2 inners go to both outers
01:23:51 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok
01:24:09 <Stablean> <Dixon296> and give outers prio
01:24:24 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok
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01:25:08 <Stablean> <Dom> hmm
01:25:14 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> wb dom
01:25:21 <Stablean> <Dom> i have to see the finishing touches on your first bbh
01:25:23 <Stablean> <Dom> ty :)
01:25:28 <V453000> :D
01:25:31 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
01:26:13 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> be back i n a minte
01:26:24 <Stablean> <Dom> btw there is a unsynced bridge there
01:26:33 <Stablean> <Dixon296> i know
01:26:43 <Stablean> <Dixon296> but not botherd
01:26:49 <Stablean> <Dom> :D
01:27:13 <Stablean> <Dixon296> just want him to get the idea then he can sort that later
01:27:20 <Stablean> <Dom> yep
01:28:02 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> back
01:28:34 <Stablean> <Dom> no need for that Dixon296
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01:31:59 <Stablean> <Dom> for that line around the mine
01:32:37 <Stablean> <Dixon296> why is that
01:33:11 <Stablean> <Dom> im gonna show it to you with signs k?
01:33:29 <Stablean> <Dixon296> k
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01:35:37 <Stablean> <Dom> something like this
01:36:23 <Stablean> <Dixon296> yea but im not trying to do all - all
01:36:38 <Stablean> <Dom> it's not all to all
01:36:45 <Stablean> <Dom> take a closer look :)
01:36:55 <Stablean> <Dom> it's the same just more space saving
01:37:18 <Stablean> <Dixon296> fuck space
01:37:20 <Stablean> <Dom> :D
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01:38:25 <Stablean> <Dom> btw happy im only critisizing Dixon :)
01:38:47 <Stablean> <Dom> for the gaps i mean :)
01:39:05 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ar ok
01:39:42 <Stablean> <Dixon296> for a start 1 isnt a gap
01:40:20 <Stablean> <Dom> i know
01:40:30 <Stablean> <Dom> i didnt sign anything with 1 or?
01:40:33 <Stablean> <Dixon296> winding me up now
01:40:50 <Stablean> <Dom> :)
01:41:25 <Stablean> <Dom> measure it
01:41:30 <Stablean> <Dixon296> i have
01:41:46 <Stablean> <Dom> it
01:41:49 <Stablean> <Dom> is 2
01:42:16 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok won bit to doo
01:42:46 <Stablean> <Dixon296> auto signal wont place 1 between
01:43:37 <Stablean> <Dom> also there is a exit signal in that prio
01:43:53 <Stablean> <Dixon296> who put that there
01:43:59 <Stablean> <Dom> idk
01:44:17 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> wher
01:44:23 <Stablean> <Dixon296> wierd
01:46:03 <Stablean> <Dom> anyway gn8
01:46:06 <Stablean> <Dom> now im really going :D
01:46:14 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hn
01:46:17 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> gn
01:46:21 <Stablean> <Dom> btw the last merger is funny :)
01:46:23 <Stablean> <Dixon296> beleive it or not happy did most of that
01:46:31 <Stablean> <Dixon296> thats happy
01:46:41 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
01:46:45 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> np
01:46:51 <Stablean> <Dom> a big hurray for happy for his first proper bbh :D
01:47:05 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hip hip
01:47:11 <Stablean> <Dom> hurray
01:47:11 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks
01:47:14 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hip hip
01:47:17 <Stablean> <Dom> hurray
01:47:23 <Stablean> <Dixon296> thats enough
01:47:25 <Stablean> <Dom> :D
01:47:27 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :)
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01:49:25 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok all dun
01:49:39 <Stablean> <Dixon296> no that last merge
01:49:49 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ar
01:50:07 <Stablean> <Dixon296> look at the others
01:50:29 <Stablean> <Dixon296> whats the difference
01:50:51 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> no
01:51:09 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> that was grate
01:51:21 <Stablean> <Dixon296> what was
01:51:51 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> doing the hbb ferst time
01:52:09 <Stablean> <Dixon296> did you enjoy that
01:52:23 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> eney way gn i must go to bed i will doo the slh to mor
01:52:29 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yes i did
01:52:39 <Stablean> <Dixon296> sign it
01:53:01 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> dun
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01:54:51 <Stablean> <Dixon296> well done happy you did good there :)
01:55:13 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> now if keep doing the hbb1 i will get beter at it
01:55:31 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks dixon
01:55:37 <Stablean> <Dixon296> np m8
01:56:41 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> rite slh 1 to mor i dont no whont time i been on so bb for now
01:56:48 <Stablean> <Dixon296> bb
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01:58:09 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> some lack of signals slows it down though
01:58:39 <Stablean> <Dixon296> silly boy :)
01:58:43 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks for your hlep dixon
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02:01:39 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> is eney won a good shorter in shorting gams
02:01:58 <Stablean> <Dixon296> what?
02:02:12 <Stablean> <Dixon296> shooter ?
02:02:24 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
02:02:42 <Stablean> <Dixon296> what game
02:02:52 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> eeny game
02:03:34 <Stablean> <Dixon296> im ok
02:03:41 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i got the new halo 4
02:03:55 <Stablean> <Dixon296> nice
02:04:05 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> and it looks grate
02:04:15 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i am the best play er
02:04:38 <Stablean> <Dixon296> well done
02:05:17 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> my name for that is the sniper so no won can bet me he he
02:05:39 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> now u see me now u dont he he
02:05:46 <Stablean> <Dixon296> lol
02:07:48 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i am so qike no won can get a shot on me it taks me won short to kill eney player
02:08:58 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> eney way sniper go a way now u mite scer the players a way
02:09:16 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> sorrey a bout r
02:09:16 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hahaha
02:09:22 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> that
02:13:13 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> the sniper and happy say bb eney won thinks eney won is the best thinke a gen so get pratic and sho us
02:14:04 <Stablean> <Dixon296> bb happy
02:14:30 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> sniper redey 5 4 3 2 1 boom
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02:14:42 <Stablean> <Dixon296> silly boy
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02:20:46 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hey sylf :)
02:20:48 <Stablean> <Sylf> hi
02:24:26 <Stablean> <Dixon296> gn
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08:55:57 <V453000> :ú
08:56:00 <V453000> :)
08:56:06 <Stablean> <Muel> :)
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11:00:57 <Stablean> <V453000> hi
11:00:59 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> hellu
11:01:21 <Stablean> <V453000> you build pretty solid, do you follow the openttdcoop website and stuff?
11:01:31 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> i try :)
11:01:46 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> atleast the basic stuff like double bridges, cl etc
11:01:50 <Stablean> <V453000> if you want to learn, the public server is a lot more effective in that :)
11:02:30 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> it damages my brain enough to try build a l_r hub :p
11:02:46 <Stablean> <V453000> that is exactly what is happening there atm :)
11:02:56 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> massive brain damage?
11:02:59 <Stablean> <V453000> still, best learn by trying ;)
11:03:02 <Stablean> <V453000> no, LR hubs
11:03:16 <Stablean> <V453000> massive brain damage comes later :)
11:03:26 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> hehe
11:03:40 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> cargo game or pax?
11:03:46 <Stablean> <V453000> cargo, pax will probably be next
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11:04:06 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> ah good. cargo alot more fun than pax imo.
11:04:20 <Stablean> <V453000> I wouldnt compare it
11:04:34 <Stablean> <V453000> I think both are equally fun if you know how to play them
11:04:48 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> well ive guess it might be bacause ive never tried pax before
11:04:53 <Stablean> <V453000> growing a large ass city is fun too, not to mention pax networks is ~same as cargo ... or can be
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11:05:21 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> from what i can tell, the pax games tend to be much more
11:05:27 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> uhm how to say it
11:05:29 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> organized
11:05:49 <Stablean> <V453000> that is only because the network itself tends not to be as gigantic as with cargo
11:06:00 <Stablean> <V453000> the structure generally stays, you just replace industries with towns
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11:06:07 <Stablean> <V453000> generally, can differ ofc
11:06:11 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> yeah but what i meant was
11:06:18 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> the land is generally very flat
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11:06:33 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> and its very set in how to build etc
11:06:39 <Stablean> <V453000> well growing a town in the mountains is usually a real pain :)
11:06:46 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> pussies xD
11:07:00 <Stablean> <V453000> not really, actually building a town is 100% up to you
11:07:14 <Stablean> <V453000> creativity has no limits there, you just are tasked to service the town well
11:07:37 <Stablean> <V453000> it for sure isnt more limiting than cargo network standards
11:08:03 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> its more the aesthetics for me i think
11:08:21 <Stablean> <V453000> what, pax games arent aesthetical ? :D or?
11:08:35 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> i dont think so :)
11:08:38 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> prefer organized chaos
11:09:04 <Stablean> <V453000> well, build your city that way and you have organized chaos
11:09:08 <Stablean> <V453000> or even the network itself
11:09:10 <Stablean> <V453000> done :)
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11:09:23 <Stablean> <V453000> hi
11:09:23 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi
11:09:25 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> maybe i have to try it one day ^^
11:09:32 <Stablean> <V453000> perhaps next ps game :)
11:09:44 <Stablean> <V453000> NUTS gets new passenger trains, so that will be a good opportunity
11:09:52 <Stablean> <Dixon296> whats that
11:10:14 <Stablean> <V453000> discussing pax games on ps
11:10:22 <Stablean> <Dixon296> oh :)
11:10:24 <Stablean> <V453000> which in translation means that Dixon is a bitch
11:10:36 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> yeah thats what i understood from you aswell
11:10:38 <Stablean> <Dixon296> now now
11:10:48 <Stablean> <V453000> :)
11:11:11 <Stablean> <Dixon296> V is a slug hugger :P
11:11:31 <Stablean> <V453000> I would need WAY longer arms than I have
11:11:39 <Stablean> <Dixon296> true
11:11:46 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> ???
11:11:50 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> slugs are not small?
11:11:53 <Stablean> <Dixon296> they fat
11:12:11 <Stablean> <V453000> jazzabazz: THE SLUG is a special engine coming in 2070 :)
11:12:25 <Stablean> <V453000> some inconsiderate individuums consider it obese
11:12:36 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> aaaah ok :p
11:13:03 <Stablean> <V453000> which, coincidentally, translates into Dixon is a bitch
11:13:09 <Stablean> <V453000> what a surprise
11:13:11 <Stablean> <Dixon296> its allso a good ruler
11:13:21 <Stablean> <V453000> ruler?
11:13:31 <Stablean> <V453000> wtf would you use the slug to rule :D
11:13:50 <Stablean> <Dixon296> if you can fit a slug there you can build anything in that space
11:13:57 <Stablean> <V453000> :D
11:14:11 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :P
11:14:33 <Stablean> <Dixon296> brb need coffee just got up
11:14:57 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> is there any way to quickly replace all wagons with univervals btw?
11:15:04 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> or does it have to be manually?
11:15:11 <Stablean> <V453000> just tell them to do so in the autoreplace window
11:15:21 <Stablean> <V453000> bottom left is a button to switch between wagons and engines
11:15:35 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> on the train list right?
11:15:46 <Stablean> <V453000> train list - replace vehicles - there
11:15:56 <Stablean> <V453000> I would also consider using monorail if I were you
11:16:03 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> monorail looks ugly
11:16:05 <Stablean> <V453000> monorail medium should do nicely there
11:16:19 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> electric tracks>>>all
11:16:33 <Stablean> <V453000> you use which graphics
11:16:39 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> uhm
11:16:42 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> the opengfx thing?
11:17:10 <Stablean> <V453000> monorail looks different on this map then
11:17:32 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> i dont like the way it looks
11:17:42 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> but uhm i cant find the button to replace qqqq
11:17:52 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> aaaah
11:17:54 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> nvm
11:18:08 <Stablean> <V453000> less qq more pew pew :)
11:18:23 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> does it autorefit to the correct cargo aswell?
11:18:29 <Stablean> <V453000> of course
11:18:59 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> good shit :D
11:19:21 <Stablean> <V453000> the universal wagons are in general quite a great tool :)
11:19:39 <Stablean> <Dixon296> thats all i use now :)
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11:20:37 <Stablean> <V453000> your trains are beyond awesome regardless Dixon
11:20:57 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :)
11:21:18 <Stablean> <Dixon296> is there more after the natuaral born ?
11:21:28 <Stablean> <V453000> yes, the DoW
11:21:36 <Stablean> <Dixon296> year?
11:21:42 <Stablean> <V453000> 2028 I think
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11:22:17 <Stablean> <V453000> rather soon :) 2 hours
11:22:19 <Stablean> <V453000> +-
11:22:57 <Stablean> <Dixon296> gd gd :)
11:23:07 <Stablean> <V453000> also it isnt natural born, it is natural born CHAOS
11:23:09 <Stablean> <V453000> bitch
11:23:29 <Stablean> <V453000> :)
11:23:33 <Stablean> <Dixon296> oh soooooo sorry sir
11:23:43 <Stablean> <V453000> the most important word out of those 3 :P
11:24:29 <Stablean> <Dixon296> should of put full stop
11:24:47 <Stablean> <V453000> ?
11:24:49 <Stablean> <Dixon296> that would of been the best of the 3
11:25:03 <Stablean> <Dixon296> =the end
11:25:06 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :P
11:25:16 <Stablean> <V453000> I understand you mean "." but wtf :)
11:26:54 <Stablean> <Dixon296> not on about the train name btw :)
11:30:33 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> i think i shouldve been quicker with trying to keep industries alive
11:30:35 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> lesson learned -.-
11:31:14 <Stablean> <Dixon296> or do what i did
11:31:19 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> which is?
11:31:23 <Stablean> <V453000> the productions will skyrocket once you use faster trains
11:31:29 <Stablean> <Dixon296> chaningworth valley
11:31:57 <Stablean> <V453000> or just prospect more industries
11:31:59 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> aaah
11:32:05 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> that keeps it alive?
11:32:15 <Stablean> <Dixon296> yep
11:32:18 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> haxxx
11:32:20 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> ty :)
11:32:52 <Stablean> <Dixon296> i only do it on islands
11:33:14 <Stablean> <V453000> I just connect it instead ;)
11:33:36 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> how many days did it take to build rome?
11:33:43 <Stablean> <Dixon296> 2
11:33:53 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> ok -.-
11:34:03 <Stablean> <V453000> lol
11:34:10 <Stablean> <Dixon296> well is wasnt 1 so must be 2
11:34:26 <Stablean> <Dixon296> logic
11:34:32 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :)
11:34:40 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> flawless
11:34:46 <Stablean> <V453000> bunch of bastards got drunk first day, placed a Rome sign when drunk late in the night, found it next afternoon
11:34:48 <Stablean> <V453000> 2 days
11:35:06 <Stablean> <Dixon296> makes sense to me
11:35:20 <Stablean> <V453000> I doubt it was anyhow else
11:37:14 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> is electrodriving or reckoning the best train to use?
11:37:58 <Stablean> <V453000> all trains are best to use
11:38:04 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> ok :D
11:38:10 <Stablean> <Dixon296> reckoning
11:38:13 <Stablean> <V453000> you just need to know how to use them :)
11:38:24 <Stablean> <V453000> generally FAST class is trash
11:38:34 <Stablean> <V453000> unless you _really_ know how to utilize it
11:38:37 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> ooops
11:38:39 <Stablean> <V453000> medium/strong is generally good
11:38:59 <Stablean> <V453000> for your trains I think even strong would be best
11:39:05 <Stablean> <V453000> as you have one engine per train
11:39:15 <Stablean> <Dixon296> single engine aswell stay away from fast class
11:39:17 <Stablean> <V453000> but medium will do ok
11:39:36 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> reckoning is on its way
11:39:50 <Stablean> <V453000> there will be one more medium train rather soon
11:40:05 <Stablean> <V453000> ok well 2041
11:41:31 <Stablean> <Dixon296> natuaral born chaos would be even betterjazz:)
11:41:57 <Stablean> <V453000> they dont perform that well
11:41:57 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> say wha?
11:42:12 <Stablean> <V453000> great acceleration and speed but less capacity and more loading times
11:42:26 <Stablean> <V453000> also he hates monorail for some reason :D
11:42:34 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> yy
11:42:40 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> it is what it is
11:42:40 <Stablean> <Dixon296> mono looks good these days
11:43:24 <Stablean> <Dixon296> and less capasity = more trains :)
11:44:11 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> you can drive maglev+monorail on universal rails?
11:44:17 <Stablean> <Dixon296> yep
11:44:20 <Stablean> <V453000> mhm
11:44:33 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> ah ok
11:45:04 <Stablean> <Dixon296> creeper
11:45:11 <Stablean> <Dixon296> 32
11:45:14 <Stablean> <V453000> :)
11:45:25 <Stablean> <V453000> it has the same probability as pink elephants
11:46:37 <Stablean> <Dixon296> i need to start spending some cash now way too mutch
11:48:20 <Stablean> <Dixon296> train 33 V
11:48:38 <Stablean> <V453000> unbelievable
11:48:48 <Stablean> <V453000> but hm :)
11:48:50 <Stablean> <Dixon296> thats twice
11:49:33 <Stablean> <V453000> they should be like cargo for bonus money
11:49:51 <Stablean> <Dixon296> lol i was just typing that message :)
11:50:05 <Stablean> <V453000> that would actually be awesome
11:50:11 <Stablean> <V453000> I dont think I can do that however
11:50:25 <Stablean> <Dixon296> why not
11:50:39 <Stablean> <V453000> I would have to redefine livestock cargo
11:50:46 <Stablean> <V453000> which could collide with industry newgrfs
11:51:13 <Stablean> <V453000> the only thing I could probably do is reduce cargo decay rate to 0 for creepers
11:51:17 <Stablean> <V453000> that is prooobably possible
11:51:27 <Stablean> <Dixon296> what about as a seperate grf to be use only with nuts?
11:51:29 <Stablean> <V453000> though not atm as the random switch is broken
11:51:41 <Stablean> <V453000> separate grf combinations are ass
11:52:11 <Stablean> <Dixon296> ok nvm that idea then
11:52:33 <Stablean> <V453000> I might reconsider it later, but for now I dont think there is any reasonable way to code that
11:52:39 <Stablean> <V453000> or at least not that I know
11:52:45 <Stablean> <V453000> as cargo payment is property of the cargo
11:53:11 <Stablean> <Dixon296> k
11:53:25 <Stablean> <V453000> it would be just some dumb stuff anyway :)
11:53:27 <Stablean> <V453000> so ye
11:53:35 <Stablean> <V453000> $
11:54:30 <Stablean> <Dixon296> they arnt that rare V got another
11:54:52 <Stablean> <V453000> yes it isnt like a miracle or something :)
11:55:10 <Stablean> <V453000> I think the rate at which they appear is ok
11:58:09 <Stablean> <Dixon296> have you redone any toyland cargos V?
11:59:24 <Stablean> <V453000> guess :)
11:59:38 <Stablean> <Dixon296> er no ?
11:59:40 <Stablean> <V453000> you mean on the new trains ?
11:59:47 <Stablean> <Dixon296> any
11:59:55 <Stablean> <V453000> wtf do you mean now?
12:00:02 <Stablean> <V453000> all trains support toyland cargoes
12:00:06 <Stablean> <V453000> if that is what you ask about
12:01:24 <Stablean> <Dixon296> have you redrawn any cargo for new wagons
12:01:51 <Stablean> <V453000> new wagons = I drew new cargoes?
12:02:18 <Stablean> <V453000> the chameleon class has all cargoes newly drawn, including toyland
12:02:49 <Stablean> <Dixon296> thats whah i was asking
12:02:55 <Stablean> <Dixon296> sort of :)
12:03:22 <Stablean> <V453000> you mean if I drew new or just cloned them from other trains?
12:03:28 <Stablean> <V453000> other wagons
12:03:48 <Stablean> <Dixon296> if you drew new 1s
12:04:06 <Stablean> <V453000> new of course
12:04:13 <Stablean> <V453000> the new wagons have different size of the cargoes so it needs new
12:04:19 <Stablean> <V453000> also for example toys look wtf awesome
12:04:33 <Stablean> <Dixon296> cool so we need ttoyland next map now :D
12:05:35 <Stablean> <V453000> dont worry that is for sure happening :)
12:05:41 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :)
12:07:00 <Stablean> <Dixon296> gonna go TL next time
12:07:06 <Stablean> <Dixon296> TL2
12:07:20 <Stablean> <V453000> TL2 is probably their best configuration by far
12:07:30 <Stablean> <V453000> I am considering a special rail chameleon train actually
12:07:40 <Stablean> <V453000> just to allow TL0.5 from start
12:07:42 <Stablean> <Dixon296> nice
12:07:53 <Stablean> <V453000> would look similar to the strong 1
12:08:03 <Stablean> <V453000> just with an articulated wagon behind it
12:08:34 <Stablean> <V453000> idk about the rest of it though
12:08:48 <Stablean> <V453000> as it would have cargo capacity it could immediately become better than strong
12:09:10 <Stablean> <Dixon296> i think it should be mono only
12:09:29 <Stablean> <Dixon296> apart from the 0.5 thingy
12:09:32 <Stablean> <V453000> no that definitely not, I could already make one of them appear in 1920 if I wanted that
12:09:50 <Stablean> <V453000> and the logic would stay, you can compare trains between tracktypes too
12:10:17 <Stablean> <V453000> I could disallow it to haul any wagons
12:10:31 <Stablean> <V453000> that would work pretty well I guess
12:10:38 <Stablean> <Dixon296> for the rail one?
12:10:42 <Stablean> <V453000> yes
12:10:45 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :)
12:10:53 <Stablean> <V453000> just for the 1920-1960 for TL0.5
12:11:39 <Stablean> <Dixon296> sounds good
12:11:45 <Stablean> <Dixon296> brb
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12:12:08 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> new noob question: any stations that get visual effect when doing rubber, fruit and all those?
12:12:14 <Stablean> <V453000> n
12:12:24 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> ah ok
12:12:27 <Stablean> <V453000> rubber actually shows as barrels
12:12:37 <Stablean> <V453000> with the processed products - barrel platforms
12:12:51 <Stablean> <V453000> I dont think any stations show fruit though
12:12:57 <Stablean> <V453000> I could make a NUTS station set :>
12:13:04 <Stablean> <V453000> showing the same cargoes as on the wagons
12:13:07 <Stablean> <V453000> that would be easy
12:13:17 <Stablean> <V453000> anyone else could do that as well though, not just me
12:13:39 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> ok cool
12:13:50 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> mostly the FIRST then i guess
12:14:00 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> that lacks designated stations
12:14:08 <Stablean> <V453000> Chips works with that
12:14:15 <Stablean> <V453000> CHIPS to be more precise
12:14:29 <Stablean> <V453000> though most cargoes are just boxes :(
12:14:35 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> ah ok :(
12:14:42 <Stablean> <V453000> still, chips with firs is g ood
12:14:52 <Stablean> <V453000> it is made to work together after all
12:14:54 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> and which station shows diamonds and gold again?
12:15:04 <Stablean> <V453000> probably none
12:15:34 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> hey they do show barrels :D
12:15:36 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> cool
12:16:07 <Stablean> <V453000> nuts stations would actually be amazing
12:16:13 <Stablean> <V453000> but the time ..
12:16:27 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> should hire someone xD
12:16:37 <Stablean> <V453000> I have the cargoes but I dont have any station buildings etc
12:16:47 <Stablean> <V453000> well I could suggest the cargoes to andythenorth
12:16:49 <Stablean> <V453000> hmmm
12:17:08 <Stablean> <V453000> well hmm
12:17:13 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> hmm
12:17:23 <Stablean> <V453000> I dont think he would want to replace his cargoes with nuts cargoes
12:17:26 <Stablean> <V453000> just fill some in
12:17:32 <Stablean> <V453000> so ye
12:17:58 <Stablean> <V453000> well I dont have to include any buildings, just platforms for now .. :)
12:18:14 <Stablean> <V453000> yeah, it is an option .. :)
12:18:26 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> on the todo list then XD
12:18:33 <Stablean> <Dixon296> nuts would be amazing for all transport types,stations and industries
12:18:39 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hint hint
12:18:41 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :)
12:18:43 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> yeaup
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12:19:41 <Stablean> <V453000> pay my bills and it will be .. :)
12:19:57 <Stablean> <Dixon296> if could i would V
12:20:03 <Stablean> <V453000> :)
12:20:14 <Stablean> <V453000> but the "all transportation types" are kinda unlikely :P
12:20:21 <Stablean> <V453000> unless you want -no ships- newGRF :D
12:20:32 <Stablean> <Dixon296> and i would even help but dont have a clue about thats shit
12:20:52 <Stablean> <V453000> that is a lie Dixon, I didnt know a single shit when I started either
12:20:54 <Stablean> <Dixon296> ships are shit anyway
12:20:56 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> how much money would you need to make diagonal bridges?
12:21:02 <Stablean> <V453000> if you want, it is easy because I can already tell you waht
12:21:16 <Stablean> <V453000> none, I dont code openttd itself
12:21:20 <Stablean> <V453000> just newgrf :)
12:21:42 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> okok -.-
12:21:44 <Stablean> <Dixon296> how did you learn to do it
12:21:51 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> gonna go have a chat with sawyer then
12:22:14 <Stablean> <V453000> sawyer wont help you much
12:22:19 <Stablean> <V453000> OTTD dev team rather might ;)
12:22:25 <Stablean> <V453000> Dixon296: tt-wiki.net
12:22:29 <Stablean> <V453000> documentation of NML
12:22:39 <Stablean> <V453000> learning drawing is just ... patience really
12:22:55 <Stablean> <Dixon296> i will check it out later :d
12:23:01 <Stablean> <V453000> I somewhat do graphics for a living so I guess I have some tendencies to it, but still
12:23:15 <Stablean> <V453000> honestly checking it out is ... LONG and confusing as HELL on the first sight
12:23:17 <Stablean> <V453000> if you need something ask me
12:23:27 <Stablean> <V453000> I can at least point you to the right direction or something
12:23:37 <Stablean> <Dixon296> kk
12:23:39 <Stablean> <V453000> you need to understand how it generally works first
12:23:42 <Stablean> <V453000> which is what I can explain
12:23:54 <Stablean> <V453000> and then for specific features you can just read up on the tt wiki
12:24:08 <Stablean> <Dixon296> would love to do it at somepoint
12:24:14 <Stablean> <V453000> it is great :)
12:25:00 <Stablean> <V453000> the drawing is the hardest, longest, most time consuming, and takes a long time to learn though
12:25:22 <Stablean> <V453000> as you know, 90% of NUTS has gotten redrawn already
12:25:32 <Stablean> <V453000> the first tries just are worse :)
12:25:46 <Stablean> <V453000> but hell, progress :) worth it
12:25:53 <Stablean> <Dixon296> defo :)
12:26:15 <Stablean> <V453000> hm I could even extend ISR
12:26:17 <Stablean> <V453000> industrial station renewal
12:26:31 <Stablean> <V453000> but again that has cargoes already, I dont want to overwrite any
12:26:45 <Stablean> <V453000> nah probably a clean new newgrf would be best
12:26:55 <Stablean> <V453000> even if it adds just like 2 station tils
12:27:15 <Stablean> <Dixon296> yea then it can be added to when ever?
12:27:21 <Stablean> <V453000> yes
12:27:36 <Stablean> <V453000> actually if you want to start somewhere with newGRFs, the stations are probably the 100% easiest part
12:27:50 <Stablean> <V453000> vehicles are nicely small, but they have endless variations and rotations
12:28:01 <Stablean> <V453000> station is just one sprite, eventually enhanced for extra cargo waiting
12:28:19 <Stablean> <Dixon296> oh ok
12:28:33 <Stablean> <V453000> buildings are the same but those are large so they take longer to draw
12:28:51 <Stablean> <V453000> ships take forever to draw due to being large AND having rotations
12:29:09 <Stablean> <V453000> but stations, you would just need the ground tile and I can support you with all the nuts cargoes
12:29:16 <Stablean> <V453000> just moving pixels around and making base tile
12:29:35 <Stablean> <V453000> I could eventually even make the base tile for you ... I might in fact even have some aside
12:29:57 <Stablean> <Dixon296> right when i get abit of time i will try it
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12:30:17 <Stablean> <V453000> hurry before motivation takes me though :D
12:30:24 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :)
12:30:35 <Stablean> <V453000> well there will probably always be space to expand such a set :p
12:30:45 <Stablean> <BennyCZ> hi
12:30:48 <Stablean> <V453000> hi
12:30:50 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi
12:31:00 <Stablean> <V453000> and expanding is even easier when you see the structure how it is coded
12:31:06 <Stablean> <V453000> usually just copypaste
12:31:18 <Stablean> <Dixon296> thats more me :)
12:31:44 <Stablean> <V453000> I might give it a try duing the weekend
12:31:52 <Stablean> <V453000> maybe earlier, after I finish the maglev intercity
12:32:26 <Stablean> <Dixon296> what do use for drawing then?
12:32:32 <Stablean> <V453000> photoshop ofc
12:32:39 <Stablean> <V453000> but gimp works too I guess
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12:32:59 <Stablean> <V453000> I even draw in pure paletted png so I dont use many photoshop functions there really
12:33:21 <Stablean> <V453000> as png doesnt support layers
12:33:31 <Stablean> <V453000> which I hate anyway
12:34:09 <Stablean> <V453000> for you I would have mainly quests with moving cargo sprites onto platforms at first while I could try starting the code
12:34:15 <Stablean> <V453000> later you could code too :)
12:34:41 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :)
12:34:45 <Stablean> <V453000> he only thing which I am a bit afraid of is the cooperation between 2
12:34:51 <Stablean> <V453000> because I compile everything locally
12:35:17 <Stablean> <V453000> you *can* use the devzone but I have no experience with that and I kinda want to delay using that as long as feasiblypossible
12:35:31 <Stablean> <V453000> but tons of people trade source files over the forums so I dont think it is a huge issue
12:35:59 <Stablean> <V453000> well we could figure that out somehow
12:36:06 <Stablean> <Dixon296> yup
12:36:20 <Stablean> <V453000> sending sprites is obvious, adding things to the code a bit less, but ... easy
12:36:54 <Stablean> <V453000> quickly looking at stations, it looks trivial
12:36:54 <Stablean> <Dixon296> tbh i carnt see me getting the hang of it all but i will give it a go :)
12:37:08 <Stablean> <V453000> look at nuts 0.0.1
12:37:10 <Stablean> <V453000> see what it is now
12:37:16 <Stablean> <V453000> it is just about time
12:37:27 <Stablean> <Dixon296> true
12:37:45 <Stablean> <V453000> true that 0.0.1 is even after like 8 months of drawing
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12:37:57 <Stablean> <Muel> :)
12:37:59 <Stablean> <Muel> hi
12:38:01 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi
12:38:15 <Stablean> <V453000> it is actually very close to 1.5 years since I started as of now
12:38:17 <Stablean> <V453000> hi
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12:39:00 <Stablean> <Dixon296> is gimp anygood?
12:39:12 <Stablean> <V453000> I think it is complete trash but that could be just because I am used to photoshop
12:39:14 <Stablean> <ComLock> gimp the drawing program?
12:39:24 <Stablean> <Dixon296> yea
12:39:30 <Stablean> <ComLock> More powerful than it looks
12:39:42 <Stablean> <Dixon296> well V i never used any so
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12:39:54 <Stablean> <V453000> I could help you easier if you use the same software
12:40:00 <Stablean> <V453000> but that is up to you really
12:40:20 <Stablean> <Dixon296> kk
12:40:30 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi all
12:40:40 <Stablean> <Dixon296> wanna try both
12:40:43 <Stablean> <Muel> hi
12:40:46 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi
12:40:52 <Stablean> <V453000> then do :)
12:40:58 <Stablean> <Dixon296> i am
12:41:01 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :)
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12:41:11 <Stablean> <Dixon296> on it now
12:44:07 <Stablean> <Dixon296> do you have to pay for them V
12:45:01 <Stablean> <V453000> well, that depends how morally high you are
12:45:07 <Stablean> <V453000> I do have them bought as I use them for work, but ...
12:45:21 <Stablean> <V453000> also not a long time ago Adobe actually released CS2 for free
12:45:31 <Stablean> <V453000> it isnt as great as CS6 of course, but should do the job for our purpose
12:45:58 <V453000> http://www.adobe.com/downloads/cs2_downloads/index.html12:45:59 <Webster> Title: Adobe - CS2 Downloads (at www.adobe.com)
12:46:22 <Stablean> <V453000> you will probably need to register there though
12:46:29 <Stablean> <V453000> not like that is a problem
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12:48:04 <Stablean> <Dixon296> kk cheers
12:51:51 <Stablean> <Dixon296> downloading but going slow as fuck
12:52:17 <Stablean> <V453000> hm
12:52:27 <Stablean> <V453000> well drawing wont go much faster :P
12:52:53 <Stablean> <Dixon296> eta 30 mins :(
12:53:11 <Stablean> <V453000> oh you spoilt bitch
12:53:17 <Stablean> <V453000> 30 mins is fine
12:53:19 <Stablean> <Dixon296> lol
12:53:31 <Stablean> <Dixon296> i want i t now
12:53:34 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :P
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12:54:39 <V453000> join the irc in the meantime
12:54:53 <Stablean> <Dixon296> k hang on
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12:56:10 <V453000> type /join #nuts
12:56:37 <Dixon296> in this box?
12:56:41 <V453000> yes
12:56:47 <V453000> is there any other box? :D
13:09:44 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> my bbh1 werks grate
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13:12:12 <Stablean> <Dixon296> well done happy
13:12:22 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks
13:12:40 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok now i got sume slh to doo
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15:25:48 <Stablean> <Dixon296> were did they all go
15:26:07 <Stablean> <V453000> to hell
15:26:11 <Stablean> <V453000> apparently :)
15:27:03 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hehe
15:27:06 <Stablean> <Dixon296> brb
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15:46:46 <Stablean> <V453000> where are they
15:46:48 <Stablean> <V453000> DoW
15:46:51 <Stablean> <V453000> :)
15:49:26 <Stablean> <Dixon296> who?
15:49:36 <Stablean> * V453000 hints some new trains
15:49:51*** Dixon296 has quit IRC15:49:58 <Stablean> <Dixon296> oh
15:50:00 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :)
15:50:35 <Stablean> <Dixon296> destroyer of worlds wooop
15:50:53 <Stablean> <V453000> :)
15:51:15 <Stablean> <V453000> and it means business
15:51:57 <Stablean> <V453000> hm where do you replace the farm trains
15:51:59 <Stablean> <V453000> no depot?
15:52:05 <Stablean> <Dixon296> lol trying to replace trains i dont have
15:52:13 <Stablean> <Dixon296> i know
15:52:19 <Stablean> <Dixon296> creeper
15:53:13 <Stablean> <Dixon296> how to hide it there?
15:53:24 <Stablean> <V453000> reverser
15:53:26 <Stablean> <V453000> -> depot
15:55:12 <Stablean> <Dixon296> shit but :)
15:56:19 <Stablean> <Dixon296> oh yea now we are talking :D
15:56:31 <Stablean> <V453000> shit borkd?
15:56:45 <Stablean> <Dixon296> ?
15:56:47 <Stablean> <V453000> or? :)
15:57:18 <Stablean> <Dixon296> they are good
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15:58:18 <Stablean> <V453000> ah :) yeah they are a lot better than the previous ones
15:58:20 <Stablean> <Dom> hello
15:58:24 <Stablean> <V453000> hy
15:58:28 <Stablean> <Dixon296> well better:)
15:58:30 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi
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17:12:02 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> hey guys
17:12:05 <Stablean> <Dom> hello
17:12:11 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> happy new year to all i've not seen yet
17:12:22 <Stablean> <Dom> thanks and to you to :)
17:12:36 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> i got a question ... i was trying to figure out the "easiest" way to build a SLH
17:12:50 <Stablean> <Dom> i can show you if you want
17:12:50 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> ML 1 track each direction
17:12:56 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> sure would be nice
17:13:00 <Stablean> <Dom> 1 track?
17:13:06 <Stablean> <Dom> normal slh is LL RR
17:13:13 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> because the one i build is .. uhm how can i show you
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17:13:46 <Stablean> <Dom> see sign !here
17:14:00 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> yes
17:14:11 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> how can i sho you what i build real quick
17:14:21 <Stablean> <Dom> build it somewhere
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17:15:57 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> like this
17:16:20 <Stablean> <Dom> well its slowing down quite hard
17:16:30 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> a little bigger but it always slows down the trains leaving and entering becausse it's not 3-3-3-3
17:17:14 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> and i'm looking for a small and easy to build hub like this
17:18:13 <Stablean> <Dom> this a bit faster design
17:18:24 <Stablean> <Dom> it doesnt look quite good though
17:18:30 <Stablean> <Dom> as i build it really fast xD
17:18:43 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> all corners length 3 ?!
17:18:50 <Stablean> <Dom> no
17:18:56 <Stablean> <Dom> this one are cl 2
17:19:00 <Stablean> <Dom> most of them
17:19:04 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> ok i need 3 ;)
17:19:15 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> because my trains always have 3
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17:19:35 <Stablean> <Dom> ok i'll do a cl3
17:19:37 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> and i need double tunnel and double bridges correct?
17:19:51 <Stablean> <Dom> well if there is alot of traffic then yes
17:19:57 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> ok
17:21:36 <Stablean> <Dom> cl 3 single bridge
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17:21:52 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> ok
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17:22:20 <Stablean> <Dom> i hate the tf costs here -.-"
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17:22:31 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> lol
17:22:32 <Stablean> <Dom> so
17:22:34 <Stablean> <Dom> now i have some money
17:25:19 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> wtf .... lol
17:25:22 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> ?
17:25:39*** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable17:25:39*** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM17:27:01 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> what are you building?
17:27:07 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> MLH ?
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17:28:35 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> mhhh i'm LOST :D .... lol i know what the plan is but watching this i'm lost
17:29:02 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> which doesn'T matter cus i only need what i build there but "better for traffic" = no slowing down
17:29:24 <Stablean> <Dom> well this is a LL RR SLH
17:29:30 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> so your solution before should do it i think ...if i remember it :D
17:29:50 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> yes ... if the ML hast 2 tracks each direction
17:30:00 <Stablean> <Dom> yes
17:30:10 <Stablean> <Dom> its a bit huge because idc about size atm :)
17:30:28 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> i will get back to you on THIS one later (in 2-3 weeks maybe ^^)
17:30:30 <Stablean> <Dom> but you can see some nice pics about slh on the wiki.openttdcoop.org17:30:36 <Stablean> <Dom> also in the savegames
17:30:39 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> i looked at them
17:30:54 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> but it's easier to remember watching someone building it
17:30:56 <Stablean> <Dom> slh isn't that bad to build especially if you have space
17:31:22 <Stablean> <Dom> the problem is a bbh in a tight space where there are mountaisn and water and just a little tf :D
17:31:49 <Stablean> <Dom> you can see on blue companies island a bbh
17:31:55 <Stablean> <Dom> well a merger is missing
17:31:57 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> so the one you build before you would say is the best? cl3 and single bridge
17:32:19 <Stablean> <Dom> and i'll add the merger now
17:32:30 <Stablean> <Dom> well it depends on the trains and on the traffic
17:32:44 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> starting slow <---- ;)
17:32:51 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> and keeping it easy at the beginning
17:33:17 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> could you build the one from before once more?
17:34:10*** Jam35 has quit IRC17:38:03 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> like this?
17:38:17 <Stablean> <Dom> yes
17:38:35 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> ok and all tracks at leas 3 no matter if straight or diagonal
17:38:41 <Stablean> <Dom> yes
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17:39:54 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> but there is no way to make this smaler back at the sign?
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17:40:54 <Stablean> <Dom> this would be another possibility
17:41:04 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> that looks a lot better and smaler
17:41:32 <Stablean> <Dom> the thing is though that the ML is more important and so the bridges can jam
17:41:42 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> mhhh
17:42:30 <Stablean> <Dom> also the first thing oyu build there
17:42:32 <Stablean> <Dom> is wrong
17:42:36 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> what about back where i put my sign "this makes is big"
17:42:45 <Stablean> <Dom> because always split before join
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17:43:00 <Stablean> <Dom> well
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17:43:58 <Stablean> <Dom> yes
17:44:56 <Stablean> <Dom> so that trains do not need to drive the same track again
17:45:54 <Stablean> <Dom> anyway i gtgo
17:45:57 <Stablean> <Dom> cya later
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20:58:35 <Dixon296> ?
20:58:57 <V453000> we will most likely parasite on CHIPS and improve that
20:59:11 <V453000> eventually even giving cargo sprites to industrial stations renewal
20:59:18 <V453000> because NML doesnt support stations
20:59:26 <V453000> and we arent doing nfo, at least I am not :D
20:59:37 <Dixon296> ok
21:00:00 <V453000> nfo is ... this for example http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchstations/repository/entry/roofs.hnfo21:00:03 <V453000> true hell if you ask me
21:00:33 <V453000> from what I think we will be doing now, there are sources of chips on the devzone, which is basically templates of cargoes
21:00:40 <V453000> we can add more of those, and that should be it
21:00:42 <V453000> easy
21:01:08 <V453000> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/show/graphics_sources21:01:13 <V453000> grab one there
21:01:15 <V453000> for example alcohol
21:01:19 <V453000> and open it in photoshop
21:01:22 <Dixon296> nfo looks hard
21:01:23 <V453000> you will see then
21:01:32 <V453000> nfo is fucking batshit outright insane
21:05:44*** ODM has quit IRC21:06:35 <Dixon296> yea i see had to use gimp though
21:06:55 <Dixon296> downloaded the wrong photoshop :P
21:07:20 <V453000> the CS2 didnt work?
21:07:51 <Dixon296> i cliked that but the file was cs6
21:08:11 <V453000> :d
21:08:19 <Dixon296> think i can get a trial period on that though
21:09:54 <V453000> there might be something like when you register you get a full CS2 key
21:11:53 <Dixon296> hope so cos dont like gimp
21:13:58 <V453000> :D
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21:22:47 <V453000> I am currently setting up environment which communicates with the devzone
21:22:50 <V453000> will tell you later
21:23:02 <V453000> but the psd templates from the chips devzone is all you need for now
21:23:36 <Dixon296> k i think i found the right download now
21:26:21 <Dixon296> gtg out now back a few hours cya
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23:03:18 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi
23:03:33 <Stablean> <Player> hey
23:03:43 <Stablean> <Player> :0
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23:40:26 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi sentry and welcume to the game
23:40:48 <Stablean> <Sentry> hi
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23:54:20 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> player u mite whnt to port a password on your cumpany so no play can get in
23:54:34 <Stablean> <Sentry> ok
23:55:37 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> wher ar u taker that fram to
23:56:12 <Stablean> <Sentry> To the food factory near Grennford