Monday, August 17, 2015

SALTIRE - Exclusive Interview with Creator - John Ferguson

On
Friday, August 7, OHP sat down in an exclusive interview with the creative
genius behind the first Scottish Superhero, Saltire. OutlanderHomepage OriginalsBy D.Elisabeth Aymett

John Ferguson and Saltire

John Ferguson loves to talk all things big,
blue and ginger. (We’re verra fond of big gingers here at OHP, but we're still
pondering that blue thing…) John’s
lovely wife, Clare, assured me the main man would be very forthcoming and he
really was! Can’t say enough about how kind and generous John was with his time.

Clare
describes John as “a bletherer.” So
since this interview went a bit longer than anticipated, but was so thoroughly
enjoyable, we’re breaking it into two parts.
Don’t want our followers to miss a thing about John’s perspective on
Scottish history, mythology and what makes a great superhero. Hope you enjoy
reading about our chat as much as we enjoyed having it. (My second favorite answer was how John
described Black Jack Randall – you’ll see!)

OHP: It’s wonderful to be speaking with you. It’s fantastic the success you’ve been
having.

John: Yes, we’re very busy right now. The next book is coming out this month and
we’re just dotting the I’s and crossing the T’s. It’s been great and we’ve been really
overwhelmed. Our books are now, within
Scotland, outselling the X-Men. We
always thought we’d be successful but didn’t know we’d be that successful.

OHP: Well, that’s good kind of problem to have,
isn’t it?

John: Yes, now if we could just do that on your
side of the water, that would be the next step. If we can get the American
market interested in the same way the Scottish market is, that would be massive.

OHP: Well, we’ll do our part to try to help you
get there.

John: Fantastic!
Just relax and ask away and I’ll try and be honest (this was so sweet
because he knew I was nervous).

OHP: So many of us in the States are dying to come
and see your lovely country because of the Outlander phenomena. Your novels are deeply rooted in Scottish
history and I was wondering when your interest in history started?

John: I’m Scottish born and bred. I call it home. My kids are Scottish (this all said in that
wonderful Scottish accent!) I’ve always had a huge interest in Scottish
history, but even more interest in Scottish mythology because it is almost
unknown. People quite often know a bit
of Irish mythology like leprechauns and Banshee and all that kind of stuff but
when you mention Scottish mythology they don’t know anything about it. I found that odd because it’s a country
that’s very famous worldwide, has a lot of famous elements to it, but nobody
knows our mythology.

I’d written a couple of articles about Scottish mythology
and that created an interest, or should I say a passion. Then I read an article that said that
Scotland couldn’t have its own superhero because it was too boring and too
drab. Do you know what the word “dreich”
means?

OHP: No, I
don’t. (Not to worry, John is good at
explaining things.)

John: The word “dreich” means cloudy and rainy and
the kind of weather that makes you want to stay inside. That’s what we call dreich. And this article said Scotland is too dreich
and boring. And at the end said, “What
would you call a Scottish Superhero anyway? Drunk man?” And I found that quite offensive.

In my mind, superheroes are the same as mythological
characters. Whether it’s Spiderman,
Batman or Superman, they’re all mythological characters like Hercules, Achilles
or Beowulf. To me, superheroes and
mythological characters are all similar. So we took Scottish mythology and the
modern superhero dynamic that is so popular and put them together.

Then we wondered how to create a storyline and thought,
don’t reinvent the wheel, just tell the stories of history. Because Scotland has such a rich history, as
you know from reading the Outlander story!

OHP: Oh, yes!

John: And Scotland has a very long, fascinating
history, going back to the Romans and the Anglo-Saxons, and the Viking
invasions, then the English wars of independence. So we’ve had a number of tumultuous battles
with these empires. And that makes for
great comic books.

OHP: Yes, it does!

John: And you can’t just have the heroes, you have
to have the villains – give them a dastardly opponent. And Scotland’s story, as
I’m sure you know, is one of being the underdog. We’ve always been fighting for our freedom
against these invading powers. And we’ve
just wanted them to leave us alone! All
these stories have been told from the other side – you get the Roman
perspective, the Viking perspective, the English perspective, but never the Scottish
perspective. So that’s what we did and
that’s why we like Outlander so much because it tells the story of the period
in history where the British soldiers were very, emmm . . . unpleasant.

John: Instead of hearing our story from other
perspectives, we thought, we can make a great narrative by telling history from
our side. I have people tell me that our
books read like a legend that might’ve been told hundreds of years ago, like a tradition that’s been passed
down from generation to generation. And
that’s exactly the feel we were going for, like something that might actually
have happened, even though it didn’t, it might have. And we wanted to tell our side of history. That’s why we like Outlander so much because
it does the same thing!

OHP: Well, it seems a wonderful way to reach out
to younger people and get them interested in Scottish history. Was that a goal of yours?

John: We’ve got the books going into the Scottish
education system this year.

OHP: Wonderful!

John: They’re using the Saltire comic books to get
young people reading. You know I’m sure
it’s the same in America, particularly young boys have moved away from reading,
whether fact or fiction, because of the internet age. They’ve got game consoles
now, an Ipad or an Xbox, they’ve moved away from reading and one of the things
they want to use to bring that back is the visual appeal of comic books. Because they still have to read a comic book
but it has the visual element as well. It’s art.

OHP: It certainly is.

John: So
take something exciting like a superhero and ask a ten year old who maybe
doesn’t read very much and struggles with literacy and say, “try this”. Give him a superhero who’s from Scotland and
the interest level is there. So we’re
excited about getting people engaged with Scottish history, with aspects of
Scottish mythology, with aspects of learning.

And we’ve got the books being translated into the Scots
language and Gaelic. And that’s great for our culture. We’re trying to save these languages. You know Scotland doesn’t have just one
language, it has three.

OHP: You have three? I did not know that.

John: People say Gaelic is a dying language but we
don’t agree! Gaelic is a vibrant
language that just hasn’t been portrayed much. We try to put it into something
popular and promote that we have these other languages and it’s worked well so
far.

OHP: Well, Ahdamh O’Broin will be absolutely
thrilled to hear that!

John: Yeah!

OHP: I was wondering if you were told Scottish
Mythology stories by your parents or grandparents.

John: Well, yes.
You know it’s one of our things in Scotland. We are a very, very old country. You live in
California. To us, that’s the new world,
only about 200 years old, which we see as almost brand new. You guys are all about the future, new concepts
and ideas. In Scotland we tend to look
more at the past because we have such a long history and because of everything
that’s happened to us. Our family traditions are, like, “let me tell you the
story of…” and you get these great tales of Scottish mythology. Some of them you may be aware of, like the Loch Ness
Monster, which is world famous.

OHP: The Waterhorse!

John: Yeah!
And that’s a story that actually comes from the Dark Ages which is 1600
years ago. Most people think it’s a
modern thing but it’s a very ancient myth in Scotland as are the tales of
dragons in our country. The last dragon
was supposedly slain by a farmer in Scotland and died on the banks of the River
Tay, just next to where Clare and I live. And that’s the kind of story you get passed
down. You know, “here’s a story for you
before you go to bed.”, so that’s how I first heard the myths of Scotland and that’s
how they’ve been passed down for generations.

OHP: I thought you must’ve heard great stories as
a kid growing up.

John: Oh yeah. In Scotland we have fantastic myths.
But our myths are quite dark, they’re not all sweetness and light. Our fairies
are quite mysterious and dark. You know
Disney came along with Tinkerbell and people got the idea that fairies flew
around Christmas trees. But our fairies could be quite shady and do bad things
as well. You learnt when you got a bit
older the versions of Scottish fairy tales that make you realize it really
isn’t all sweetness and light and Barbie dolls!

OHP:
laughing – I’m not much of a Barbie fan myself.
So I notice in the origin story of Saltire, and please tell me how to
pronounce his name correctly.

John: Like
salt for your food and a tire on your car.
Saltire.

OHP: Thanks, I didn’t want to be mispronouncing
it. So the leaders of the various areas
of Scotland come and they’re consumed in the creation process of Saltire. He
absorbs the life from them and that is the sacrifice that forms this
character. What inspired you about the
various characteristics of those leaders?

John: Well, I’m quite well travelled throughout
Scotland and have many experiences of the different people from the regions.
It’s the same kind of thing as in America. You know if you meet someone from
Texas, they’re very different than the people from New York or Washington, or
California. So it’s the same in Scotland, people vary in the different areas of
the country.

You’ll get very different people in Glasgow than from
Edinburgh, who differ from those on the Islands or in the Highlands. The people of Glasgow are known for being
quite cheeky and funny, outgoing and everything is a joke with them. Where people from the Islands tend to be a
bit reserved and keep themselves to themselves. People from the Highlands also
tend to be quieter and like the solitude of the mountains and the peace.

So we thought we needed to have a representation
of the different areas. We wanted people
to be aware that Scotland has always had a clan culture and the clans have
these different personalities. But whenever Scotland has been in trouble, they
always band together for the greater good. And that wasn’t just me making it up
for the character of Saltire, it has always been the way of Scotland.

OHP: I was trying to read a good bit about
Scottish history this week to prepare for talking to you.

OHP: So here’s my super question for you. If you could choose just three battles in
Scottish history where Saltire could come and make a difference and change the
outcome of battle, which would be your top three?

John: Oh,
goodness. What a good question. (Significant pause from John where you can tell
he’s really thinking about this….)

Well, you know my go-to answer is the obvious number one,
has to be Culloden, which really sticks in everybody’s craw, as we say here in
Scotland. So we’ll stick that one in
there as the obvious one.

Emmm, now what else?
I think I would say the battle of Falkirk, which was the great battle
between Edward I, Longshanks who was known as the Hammer of Scots and William
Wallace, that great battle. You know the movie Braveheart, if you’ve ever seen
that movie.

OHP: I did.

John: So
you know that was very sad and everybody dies. So that would’ve been a nice
battle to stick Saltire in the middle, I think that would be quite cool.

So,
that’s two of the top three battles where John would have his superhero
Saltire come and change the outcome of battle and history. What do you think number three is? I’ll tell you, his answer was quite
surprising to me.

John
talks about how Scotland might be different if Saltire could’ve changed the
outcome of Culloden – like Jamie and Claire will try to do in Season 2 of
Outlander. His take on it is very interesting!
Come back and check out our blog next week to see that answer and read
more of our interesting chat with John.
Promise you’ll enjoy it!