He talks shit yet doesn't like it when he's challenged about his opinions. I don't think re-releasing the back catalogue is a sellout move yet I thought it was nice to see a journalist try to broach the topic of selling-out and Billy's own hypocrisies. Although the journalist should have picked a better example to call him on it.

Billy's still defending Zeitgeist though. ah, so he isn't 100% happy with it, not because the album kind of sucks ass, more because of the unasked-for expectation that we (the fans) put on it not being SD 2. however in this case Billy + Jimmy in a room is clearly not > 99% of music anymore. that kind of arrogant attitude is how we ended up with a bust like Zeitgeist. apparently, no-one except Billy can judge whether it was successful or not! and the album was apparently a sparse, metallic record, dark and lean: i'd like to hear him describe how this applies to most of it. Pomp, God + Country etc? it is slathered in production gimmickry. can one interviewer actually ask him, before i die, what the fuck is up with the horrible vocals? the studio engineer who posted on here before the album hit the stores called it right: good music, god-awful vocals. how can Billy not see this - with 5 years distance to add perspective?

worrying (for Oceania) that he's listening to GLOW and comparing it to MCIS and Machina. big surprise: it is on the list of potential live songs for the new tour. play Here is No Why, it is at least a billion times better than fucking GLOW, which pretty much no-one attending a show wants to hear. but of course Corgan doesn't want to be confined by fan expectations, so of course he won't play a great song that hasn't been heard live since '96 and will instead play a routine staple of recent tours. sigh.

bad effects it seemed like. or too many overdubs of a sort of guitar tone that didn't lend itself so well to that treatment, or...something.
i'd like to hear a 'less-produced' mix of it. way less effects or at least different effects on the vocals. but what really matters is getting a digital master [of the remaining machina 2 songs] from the master tape, and not from a fucking test record or whatever it was he pressed. while it didn't seem to help slow dawn all that much, i thought lucky 13 and real love sounded pretty good [rotten apples/judas 0]

i like the idea of having the machina album presented in the 2LP format it was suppose to come out. sadly i also feel this is so much DIE HARD fans thing that it will get smashed by press/non-fans either way and billy will moan and moan.

i like the idea of having the machina album presented in the 2LP format it was suppose to come out. sadly i also feel this is so much DIE HARD fans thing that it will get smashed by press/non-fans either way and billy will moan and moan.

Yeah, it really is going to be a diehard fan product. I just hope it actually comes to fruition... it was easily the coolest concept from the big "remasters are coming!" announcement a year or so ago.

I like Machina I & II a lot, but imagine how much better these records would have sounded with Butch Vig or someone else producing. Flood was clearly not the best as producing a rock band with heavy guitars and a monster drummer.

Flood was clearly not the best as producing a rock band with heavy guitars and a monster drummer.

yeah, flood's talent is mixing guitars and synths/programming (NIN, mute records, curve). most of his pure guitar records sound about as muffled as MCIS/machina (to bring you my love, nick cave, songs of faith and devotion). not a bad thing necessarily, but not his strongest efforts on the decks.