It's time for Misbun Sidek to work for Malaysian Badminton without BAM

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Looks like BAM have to kowtow to LCW + Misbun

Originally Posted by jimbo

Looks like BAM have to kowtow to LCW + Misbun formidable and indispensable pair... The most likely outcome is BAM has got to suck thumb and succumb to the pressure of missing out the OG GOLD... TAK BOLEH lah

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Wrong; there are 2 points here;
*1. BAM do have to kowtow to LCW + Misbun. BAM have other things to concentrate on.
*2. It is still possible for LCW + Misbun (if they go independent) to win the OG GOLD for Malaysia.
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The BAM though has a flaw which has never changed, it takes too long for young players to move up the ranks.

Probably because the team is too big in player numbers.

Look at how fast Thailand or Japan or Korea can move and produce youngsters.

Its like U students, some traditional Us take 4 years to produce Engineers but some can do the same in 2 years.

Maybe a change in thinking and an accelerated program is necessary.Players may not need to be kept so long until they grow roots there are so many alternatives open to them nowadays.

MS conflict with BAM is not new, Frost,Indra quit because of disagreement with management, even during Li Mao's time

he gave up after he could not get certain promising players to train and succeed LCW and that was ages ago and today the same problem is recurring. The system itself may be too traditional compared to others.

The best way I think is to allow Private Clubs to compete with BAM, just as in the 90s when Nusa competed with BAM

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Wrong; there are 2 points here;
*1. BAM do have to kowtow to LCW + Misbun. BAM have other things to concentrate on.
*2. It is still possible for LCW + Misbun (if they go independent) to win the OG GOLD for Malaysia.
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If that's the case, BAM should just let them go. Be independent and get the lucrative deal from Li Ning. Strike rich while the rod is still hot. It's a win-win, BOLEH?

23. Misbun arrested for "unpatriotic behaviour." LCW resigns and vows never to play badminton again. Revolts in the streets. Mid-term elections called for. LCW runs for PM of Malaysia by popular demand. Wins popular vote by landslide margin. His first declaration is to make badminton practise compulsory for all kids for 4 years. All gaming warehouses are converted into badminton clubs. Malaysia becomes the biggest baddy powerhouse in the world in 4 years. LCW elected PM for life. MS is special advisor for life. Every lives happily ever after. Oh, I almost forgot. Taufik becomes lifelong Indonesia Ambassador to Malaysia.

IF national singles coach Misbun Sidek wants to leave the BA of Malaysia ( BAM), he should be allowed to do so.

Misbun Sidek has already resigned. It's not that he wanted to resign.

Teng Chor was also surprised that Misbun refused to meet with BAM president Datuk Seri Nadzmi Salleh to thrash out the issue but agreed to discuss the matter with Sports Minister Datuk Seri Ahmad Shabery Cheek.

It shows that Kedah BA (KBA) president Teoh Teng Kor doesn't know what caused Misbun to resign. Where is the email that was sent to BAM? Hope that BAM can be more transparent; to release it for everyone to read.

Had Misbun met Nadzmi, Teng Chor feels the issue could have been resolved. "As far as I 'm concerned, Misbun made the decision to resign by himself and if he feels it's the right decision he should leave. Nobody is indispensable and we (BAM) didn't force him to leave," said Teng Chor.

'Nobody is indispensable and we (BAM) didn't force him to leave?' Then, why is BAM trying to get Misbun back. I just don't understand all this double-talk.

"The coaching and training committee decided that Hendrawan should train Misbun Ramdan . He still has some way to go before becoming a elite player . We are not against Misbun. " Terengganu BA ( TBA ) president Datuk Sayed Abu Bakar Abdullah said that the executive council ( Exco ) meeting tomorrow should be able to solve the matter.

"Let the Exco decide on the issue on Tuesday (tomorrow). By then, the president (Nadzmi) would have met the Sports Minister and Misbun and should be able to come up with a final decision ," said Sayed Abu Bakar.

It also shows that Terengganu BA (TBA) president Datuk Sayed Abu Bakar Abdullah is not thinking clearly either. I shall repeat "Misbun Sidek has already resigned. It's not that he wanted to resign."

BAM treasurer Datuk Lim Teong Kiat said the ball is on Misbun's court and he should be the one to decide.

"Resignation of coaches is normal. Life will go on if Misbun sticks to his decision . We still have Rashid (Sidek) and Tey Siu Bock and training will carry on," said Teong Kiat.

It shows that BAM treasurer Datuk Lim Teong Kiat is also not thinking clearly either. I shall repeat "Misbun Sidek has already resigned. It's not that he wanted to resign."

I would summarise things with these comments;

Misbun resigned because he did not find BAM appreciating his work. And even after he has resigned BAM committee members are still not commenting that they appreciated Misbun's work. They keep saying that it's up to Misbun to decide.

So, I shall repeat it the last time;
"Misbun Sidek has already resigned. It's not that he wanted to resign."

BAM needs to be thinking clearer.
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It is not as simple as what you have said. Yes, Misbun has tendered his resignation but it is not necessarily legally binding or final as there are procedures and channels for resignations to be formally followed before any resignation is binding. Also any resignation should be formally accepted by BAM to be final. BAM is a legal entity and it would have in place a procedure for resignations by players, coaches, and BAM staff and officials. There are such a thing as pre quit notice, certain period of advance information and other conditions including buy-out or early termination compensation, etc.
Therefore both BAM treasurer Lim Teong Kiat and Terengganu BA president Datuk Sayed Abu Bakar Abdullah are correct in their statements.

My take on this is that Misbun should go his own way and if LCW wants to go with him then let it be. This is the best solution as it will allow MS and LCW to go it alone and at the same time will not embarrass BAM if they are forced to accept Misbun's terms they deem not to be in the national interest in the long term or as a matter of principle.

If BAM have "INTEGRITY" Issues here. If they don't take their stand, no one will take them seriously.
If LCW quits and be a professional, is BAM going to "BAN" him from participating in international tournaments?

23. Misbun arrested for "unpatriotic behaviour." LCW resigns and vows never to play badminton again. Revolts in the streets. Mid-term elections called for. LCW runs for PM of Malaysia by popular demand. Wins popular vote by landslide margin. His first declaration is to make badminton practise compulsory for all kids for 4 years. All gaming warehouses are converted into badminton clubs. Malaysia becomes the biggest baddy powerhouse in the world in 4 years. LCW elected PM for life. MS is special advisor for life. Every lives happily ever after. Oh, I almost forgot. Taufik becomes lifelong Indonesia Ambassador to Malaysia.

It is not as simple as what you have said. Yes, Misbun has tendered his resignation but it is not necessarily legally binding or final as there are procedures and channels for resignations to be formally followed before any resignation is binding. Also any resignation should be formally accepted by BAM to be final. BAM is a legal entity and it would have in place a procedure for resignations by players, coaches, and BAM staff and officials. There are such a thing as pre quit notice, certain period of advance information and other conditions including buy-out or early termination compensation, etc.
Therefore both BAM treasurer Lim Teong Kiat and Terengganu BA president Datuk Sayed Abu Bakar Abdullah are correct in their statements.

My take on this is that Misbun should go his own way and if LCW wants to go with him then let it be. This is the best solution as it will allow MS and LCW to go it alone and at the same time will not embarrass BAM if they are forced to accept Misbun's terms they deem not to be in the national interest in the long term or as a matter of principle.

I think LCW holds the ace card. If LCW stays neutral and not declare he will move on with MS, or if LCW is just another TCS, then BAM will gladly bid MS sayonara. MS, without LCW, does not hold the bargaining chip. NSC and BAM needs LCW, the one player that can win for them. With so many Datuks involve in this carnival, it is getting hot politically.
I can't help but wonder, what if this saga occurs in CHN under LYB's watch? What would Mr. Li do?

Agak malang bagi Chong Wei dilahirkan sezaman dengan Lin Dan.
Lin Dan merupakan pemain badminton yang cukup ampuh yang pernah ditemui setakat ini.
Sekiranya Chong Wei bukan sezaman dengan Lin Dan, sudah tentu semua kejohanan dimonopolinya. It is unfortunate that LCW is born same era as LD. LD is a great player of all time, so far. If LCW is not same era as LD, he would have won more touranments.