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"My philosophy as a businessman has always been to take care of the people who make me successful. It has always been "we" in my business conversations with others. At a certain point in a successful business it behooves one to make sure those doing a good job of supporting you are not struggling to make ends meet."

Didn't watch, and don't plan on it. I'll vote in my best interest, even if that means raising taxes on those who are wealthier than me.

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Originally Posted by Lair

This.

Fvck Lee Doren.

Curious. Do you guys actually believe it is better to tax the wealthy and redistribute the wealth, or are you envious of their acquired wealth?

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"My philosophy as a businessman has always been to take care of the people who make me successful. It has always been "we" in my business conversations with others. At a certain point in a successful business it behooves one to make sure those doing a good job of supporting you are not struggling to make ends meet."

Did you believe it was approproate when the Bush administration presided over the largest shift of wealth (from the middle class to the 1%) in this nation's history?

I'm gonna need some sources for that...

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"My philosophy as a businessman has always been to take care of the people who make me successful. It has always been "we" in my business conversations with others. At a certain point in a successful business it behooves one to make sure those doing a good job of supporting you are not struggling to make ends meet."

“They have the guns and therefore we are for peace and for reformation through the ballot. When we have the guns then it will be through the bullet.” - Saul Alinsky, quoting Lenin

“I wanted [Jimmy] Carter in and I wanted [Ford] out,” comedian Chevy Chase would later admit of his mocking Ford impersonation on "Saturday Night Live", “and I figured look, we're reaching millions of people every weekend, why not do it."

Curious. Do you guys actually believe it is better to tax the wealthy and redistribute the wealth, or are you envious of their acquired wealth?

No, I don't care if someone has more money than me, though I wouldn't mind being in that position. Why should I NOT vote in my best interest, especially when it could be argued what is best for me, is best for the majority?

No, I don't care if someone has more money than me, though I wouldn't mind being in that position. Why should I NOT vote in my best interest, especially when it could be argued what is best for me, is best for the majority?

"My philosophy as a businessman has always been to take care of the people who make me successful. It has always been "we" in my business conversations with others. At a certain point in a successful business it behooves one to make sure those doing a good job of supporting you are not struggling to make ends meet."

I think, at this point, the most logical tax system is a progressive system. Taxes should eventually go up on everyone, but the timing of that is what's tricky.

IIRC we have the most progressive taxes in the world.

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“They have the guns and therefore we are for peace and for reformation through the ballot. When we have the guns then it will be through the bullet.” - Saul Alinsky, quoting Lenin

“I wanted [Jimmy] Carter in and I wanted [Ford] out,” comedian Chevy Chase would later admit of his mocking Ford impersonation on "Saturday Night Live", “and I figured look, we're reaching millions of people every weekend, why not do it."

I think that is what frustrates people. Our rich pay more than everyone else's rich, our poor pay less than everyone else's poor. Our corporate rates are among the highest. Our capital gains rates are globally high (Germany has 0%).

Yet, according to some it is never ever enough. There is no end game where people will say "ok everyone is paying enough", there will always be demands for more more more. Remember, back in the Clinton days it was a millionaire tax. Not even 20 years later we're down to 250k. Guess what's next? On top of that, 250k isn't even close to what it was when Clinton was President.

On top of that, spending just keeps outpacing revenue like Usain Bolt racing Stephen Hawking

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“They have the guns and therefore we are for peace and for reformation through the ballot. When we have the guns then it will be through the bullet.” - Saul Alinsky, quoting Lenin

“I wanted [Jimmy] Carter in and I wanted [Ford] out,” comedian Chevy Chase would later admit of his mocking Ford impersonation on "Saturday Night Live", “and I figured look, we're reaching millions of people every weekend, why not do it."

Why even give them 1%? Might as well just chain them to their desks and use them up like batteries!

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“They have the guns and therefore we are for peace and for reformation through the ballot. When we have the guns then it will be through the bullet.” - Saul Alinsky, quoting Lenin

“I wanted [Jimmy] Carter in and I wanted [Ford] out,” comedian Chevy Chase would later admit of his mocking Ford impersonation on "Saturday Night Live", “and I figured look, we're reaching millions of people every weekend, why not do it."

I think that is what frustrates people. Our rich pay more than everyone else's rich, our poor pay less than everyone else's poor. Our corporate rates are among the highest. Our capital gains rates are globally high (Germany has 0%).
Yet, according to some it is never ever enough. There is no end game where people will say "ok everyone is paying enough", there will always be demands for more more more. Remember, back in the Clinton days it was a millionaire tax. Not even 20 years later we're down to 250k. Guess what's next? On top of that, 250k isn't even close to what it was when Clinton was President.

On top of that, spending just keeps outpacing revenue like Usain Bolt racing Stephen Hawking

I don't believe that at all. I want to know what our effective rates are in comparison to other countries.