Yes, I know how Trijicon has been in the past; but this time, they supplied the military BEFORE giving a committment. What I intend to do is, if for some reason they don't make it by 01/01/03, e-mail all those holding a place in line and give them the option of keeping their place, or getting a refund via M.O. or Cashier's Check. But again, I have it from a very reliable source that they will be here by around that date. That's why the price is so low ($409.95 for ar15.com members who e-mail me directly!)...this is a pre-sale, from the first batch! Got one coming for myself as well!