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I was enjoying Altered Carbon, despite my misgivings about the trailer, but around episode 7(?) we seem to have taken a sharp left turn into Joss Whedon woo-woo-land. Which funnily enough has coincided with the arrival of Dollhouse chick doing the ninja routine and making a bunch of decisions that make no fucking sense.

Kinda lost interest now. Oh well.

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I actually stopped at that point as well, but in their defense the flashback episode made it clear that she was never in it for the cause and always pretty (brain-)damaged.

So I recently watched the (older) first season of Designated Survivor on Netflix, because a workmate recommended it to me. And although that genre isn't on my top Do-like-very-much list, I really enjoyed it and ended up more or less bing-watching it. It reminded me a lot of "24", which is no surprise considereing Keith is both the main actor and producer. I did like the portrayal of the people and more so how they changed their stance/opinion and it actually made sense to me. Too often, when characters flip their intentions (e.g. Morgan, The Walking Dead), I feel like the "reasoning" behind that is either not explained at all, or the "explanation" feels sooo artifical, that I have a really hard tie following it. To me surprise, Designated Surviror did work quite well for me in this regard.

There's a second season, which I intend to also watch, but I'm currently busy watching other stuff (Altered Carbon) and I'm having a blast with Subnautica.

I was enjoying Altered Carbon, despite my misgivings about the trailer, but around episode 7(?) we seem to have taken a sharp left turn into Joss Whedon woo-woo-land. Which funnily enough has coincided with the arrival of Dollhouse chick doing the ninja routine and making a bunch of decisions that make no fucking sense.

So I recently watched the (older) first season of Designated Survivor on Netflix, because a workmate recommended it to me. And although that genre isn't on my top Do-like-very-much list, I really enjoyed it and ended up more or less bing-watching it. It reminded me a lot of "24", which is no surprise considereing Keith is both the main actor and producer. I did like the portrayal of the people and more so how they changed their stance/opinion and it actually made sense to me. Too often, when characters flip their intentions (e.g. Morgan, The Walking Dead), I feel like the "reasoning" behind that is either not explained at all, or the "explanation" feels sooo artifical, that I have a really hard tie following it. To me surprise, Designated Surviror did work quite well for me in this regard.

There's a second season, which I intend to also watch, but I'm currently busy watching other stuff (Altered Carbon) and I'm having a blast with Subnautica.

Well, I also enjoyed the first season of Designated Survivor. Never saw the West Wing, so I have no idea if the characterization as "poor man's west wing" is correct.

I'd stop watching now. The second season is incredibly tacked on, with some terrible character decisions but very little in the way of a plot. E.g., in your opinion, how competent is the Indian communcations guy?

I was enjoying Altered Carbon, despite my misgivings about the trailer, but around episode 7(?) we seem to have taken a sharp left turn into Joss Whedon woo-woo-land. Which funnily enough has coincided with the arrival of Dollhouse chick doing the ninja routine and making a bunch of decisions that make no fucking sense.

Kinda lost interest now. Oh well.

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I actually stopped at that point as well, but in their defense the flashback episode made it clear that she was never in it for the cause and always pretty (brain-)damaged.

This was also the point where they diverged from the main plot of the book.

So I recently watched the (older) first season of Designated Survivor on Netflix, because a workmate recommended it to me. And although that genre isn't on my top Do-like-very-much list, I really enjoyed it and ended up more or less bing-watching it. It reminded me a lot of "24", which is no surprise considereing Keith is both the main actor and producer. I did like the portrayal of the people and more so how they changed their stance/opinion and it actually made sense to me. Too often, when characters flip their intentions (e.g. Morgan, The Walking Dead), I feel like the "reasoning" behind that is either not explained at all, or the "explanation" feels sooo artifical, that I have a really hard tie following it. To me surprise, Designated Surviror did work quite well for me in this regard.

There's a second season, which I intend to also watch, but I'm currently busy watching other stuff (Altered Carbon) and I'm having a blast with Subnautica.

Well, I also enjoyed the first season of Designated Survivor. Never saw the West Wing, so I have no idea if the characterization as "poor man's west wing" is correct.

I'd stop watching now. The second season is incredibly tacked on, with some terrible character decisions but very little in the way of a plot. E.g., in your opinion, how competent is the Indian communcations guy?

That charatcer had it's strong part in the beginning of the season, but became weaker later on, due to the story's development, I think. His personal advice to the president seemed sound and his first couple of press conferences were good. With the right balance of "can't comment" and being honest/transparent. The part where his naivity got abused by that reporter was also relatable.

But when that whole "we've got to keep this secret" stuff started and he naturally was excempt from most of the crucial infos, the character obviously got weaker. "I don't know" is not a phrase that has strong story potential most of the time. Especially if it's the truth.

I was enjoying Altered Carbon, despite my misgivings about the trailer, but around episode 7(?) we seem to have taken a sharp left turn into Joss Whedon woo-woo-land. Which funnily enough has coincided with the arrival of Dollhouse chick doing the ninja routine and making a bunch of decisions that make no fucking sense.

Kinda lost interest now. Oh well.

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I actually stopped at that point as well, but in their defense the flashback episode made it clear that she was never in it for the cause and always pretty (brain-)damaged.

This was also the point where they diverged from the main plot of the book.

And ommitting many clues along the way making the ending a "let's pull stuff out of the hat" type of solution to the murder mystery.

So I recently watched the (older) first season of Designated Survivor on Netflix, because a workmate recommended it to me. And although that genre isn't on my top Do-like-very-much list, I really enjoyed it and ended up more or less bing-watching it. It reminded me a lot of "24", which is no surprise considereing Keith is both the main actor and producer. I did like the portrayal of the people and more so how they changed their stance/opinion and it actually made sense to me. Too often, when characters flip their intentions (e.g. Morgan, The Walking Dead), I feel like the "reasoning" behind that is either not explained at all, or the "explanation" feels sooo artifical, that I have a really hard tie following it. To me surprise, Designated Surviror did work quite well for me in this regard.

There's a second season, which I intend to also watch, but I'm currently busy watching other stuff (Altered Carbon) and I'm having a blast with Subnautica.

Well, I also enjoyed the first season of Designated Survivor. Never saw the West Wing, so I have no idea if the characterization as "poor man's west wing" is correct.

I'd stop watching now. The second season is incredibly tacked on, with some terrible character decisions but very little in the way of a plot. E.g., in your opinion, how competent is the Indian communcations guy?

That charatcer had it's strong part in the beginning of the season, but became weaker later on, due to the story's development, I think. His personal advice to the president seemed sound and his first couple of press conferences were good. With the right balance of "can't comment" and being honest/transparent. The part where his naivity got abused by that reporter was also relatable.

But when that whole "we've got to keep this secret" stuff started and he naturally was excempt from most of the crucial infos, the character obviously got weaker. "I don't know" is not a phrase that has strong story potential most of the time. Especially if it's the truth.

I also haven't seen West Wing, BTW.

Well, minor spoilers, in the second season, he suddenly is glaringly incompetent. Sufficiently so that they end up hiring a supposedly hypercompetent sociopath to help him and others with their shortcomings. That guy may well be the most annoying and useless addition to any TV series ever.

What an example to choose... a remake would actually have some chance of improving certain matters, sacrilege non-withstanding.

What would you improve? Not claiming its a perfect series obviously.. but it was driven to be great by the performances of people like Andreas Katsulas, Peter Jurasik, Stephen Furst, etc. The storylines and writing weren't too bad for the first 4 series either.

Especially when you then think about the utter shit that followed like Crusade and rangers film etc.

It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.