To inform the baggy combat wearing, makeup free and greasy ponytail club

. . .who seem to think they are superior parents because of these attributions that they are in no way any better at parenting then i am with my make up on curled hair, slightly too tight jeans and a smile.

And announce that they probably do spend more time thinking about the way they look then putting ''that energy into playing with my children'' than they seem to think.

This is not a thread moaning about the people who dare to wear comfortable clothes and leave the house (i do too occasionally), or who are confident enough to go out without make up on because it matters not too them, but instead about those who declare it is ''because they are to busy to care and would rather play with the kids'' Passive aggressively or maybe those who roll there eyes and nudge there partner in there ribs with gusto if they see someone with a child in tow who fancied wearing high heels to Nandos.

anyone know what this is about?, doesn't the whole ''i'm so relaxed that i don't need to care what people think of me'' end up lost in the convincing everyone that they are doing there kids a favour by not wearing perfume and makeup.

Or is DS going to grow up sideways because of me for spending an extra ten minutes in the bedroom before DP goes to work?

I don't wear makeup. If you want to, go ahead. I don't see what difference it makes to parenting, although I hope people don't bring up kids to think that it is a crime or lazy to go out without makeup.

Today I went swimming and have spent the day by myself in the office, getting on with stuff. I am wearing 5yo trainers, jeans where the flies don't button up properly, and a tshirt I have owned since I was about 22.

Sometimes you cant win..Depends when and which day you see me as to how I look ...Weekends I dont tend to do lots, and like to layyyze in my pjs so look an absolute mess.

Days when I go out I do put eyeshadow liner and mascara on - they make me feel better about myself and make my eyes still visible behind my glasses. However if I've been too tired or during periods of down feeling I've not bothered. My hair depends which day it is... It generally looks better on days I've washed it as it curls attractively by itself. Very rarely do I bother to straighten it as standing knackers me atm (heavily pg)

On occassions where I've put full slap on and straightened my hair ive had it said that I look like snow white both as a positive and negative!

good on you special , truly i am happy for you. If you like you can follow me on all threads i post and correct my grammar, until you feel better about yourself.

I am sorry for the ramble that was a very disjointed post wasn't it?

basically, I tend to encounter sometimes on here and sometimes in real life the type of person who seems eager to say just how pathetic they find it that women spend so much time on their appearance and should spend that time instead on their children, and how they would rather play with their children or read to them than do that silly stuff.

Inferring that you can't do both therefore they are better.

It is not the actual wearing of the clothes of either type just the connection between that and parenting.

OP I've heard some parents bad mouthing a mum at our school who is always immaculately turned out. She's often last in the gates and there are comments about kids having to suffer for her vanity and they themselves would rather get DC to school on time than worry abut how they look. I think that's a bit mean and have made moves towards her (smiles, morning greeting, compliments on shoes/hair etc)

I'm guessing you've overheard some mean comments like these or worse had this PA crap spouted at you?

Each to their own. I'm not a make up fan usually and never do anything other than shove hair into a pony but your style or my lack of it can't really have much bearing on our parenting skills can it!

I am mixing my words oh dear, I mean basically what you have all said.

Including that i care too much what people thinking.

It bothers me in the sense that you could moan about it if it was the other way around though, ''Should io be judged for not washing my hair and wearing combats?'' should get a no and so should ''should i be judged for wearing makeup and curly hair''

My hair is clean. I don't wear make-up because I don't like the way it feels. I wear comfortable clothes because my comfort is more important to me than the way I look. I'm sure I save several minutes a day by not putting on make-up or straightening my hair, but I can assure you that I spend those extra minutes in bed or on MN, not doing worthy activities with my children. I don't make assumptions about the well-groomed, so don't presume that you know everything about me just because I look different to you.