Pacers please stop the showboating and crying to the referees its getting old

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Re: Pacers please stop the showboating and crying to the referees its getting old

I don't think anyone on here hates PG or wants to make him the "whipping boy." But it is a valid concern. If you spend all that effort on the refs you are losing your focus on the game itself.

Smash. Mouth. Does anyone remember it? I absolutely love the image this organization has crafted over the last couple years, and I think this kind of stuff does a lot to unravel it. I'm not even talking about the flashy plays because that does have purpose. But now it is pretty much a given that on any athletic play it will be capped off with either some chest-beating or whining to the refs - depending on the outcome. Don't get me wrong, because I'll still love 'em. I just want them to stay shiny and sparkly up on their pedestal in my mind.

Re: Pacers please stop the showboating and crying to the referees its getting old

There's a necessary evil to having such a great player, and a great team overall. Pretty much every great player flops, whines to the officials, can attempt to hero ball an occasion or two, and celebrates their great plays.

Just because it is the standard doesn't mean it has to be that way, or that it should be that way. It is the coaches job to complain to the refs. It is the players job to play through bad calls or no calls. So let Vogel do his job, and just play hard and try to win. The problem isn't that they complain as much as they would rather complain than get back on D.

Flops are unacceptable, always.

Celebrations are alright as long as it doesn't get in the way of getting back on defense, which happens sometimes with Paul.

Re: Pacers please stop the showboating and crying to the referees its getting old

Yea just a game when the players want to act like children but it is a huge business when they want that big payday. They want to consider themselves a corporation then. When you are a part of a billion dollar industry and you ask cities for arenas, bailouts or tax breaks its no longer just a game. Be professional act professional and get the job done. Blowing that game could cost you home court, home court could determine whether you win the whole thing. Hopefully it won't but it could. Be professional, take care of business and get the job done. If you don't relax and start fooling around you could bump that lead to 25, rest the starters for your back to back which we have been very average in and get your bench some real minutes to work on their conditioning and game. I like the flash once in awhile as much as the next guy but when it gets excessive there is no purpose to it. You may find this hard to believe but my favorite players on this team are Lance and Paul. I think they have unbelievable talent and upside if they keep their heads on straight. I say stop the nonsense now before it gets worse. Also I wonder how Hill and Watson felt on that last play when they both are wide open jumping up and down calling for the ball and their teammate ignores them and forces up a bad shot. What kind of confidence does that show in them.

Re: Pacers please stop the showboating and crying to the referees its getting old

Poor logic. We need to eliminate these problems before the playoffs. Hence the complaints.

But doesn't the regular season record indicate just how serious, or how many times the problems result in a loss? When a team has the best record in the NBA, I've got to conclude that their problems aren't that big, in terms of relativity looking at the problems other teams are facing.

Re: Pacers please stop the showboating and crying to the referees its getting old

But doesn't the regular season record indicate just how serious, or how many times the problems result in a loss? When a team has the best record in the NBA, I've got to conclude that their problems aren't that big, in terms of relativity looking at the problems other teams are facing.

Effort is an extremely easy thing to fix.

With our talent we should have more wins though. Where as teams like the Spurs, Thunder and Heat have had tons of injuries are right in there with us. This is a concern.

Looks like that's just from the 90's, regardless 64 wins would be better than the franchise record and 39-11 is pretty damn great, but there are areas of opportunity to improve on. But 11 loses and people are disappointed we have that many.... We are going to get the best of every team especially the ones we're suppose to beat. Just think back to when the pacers didn't have a chance at the powerhouses and the team yet played them the toughest and had wins over big time opponents.

Re: Pacers please stop the showboating and crying to the referees its getting old

Looks like that's just from the 90's, regardless 64 wins would be better than the franchise record and 39-11 is pretty damn great, but there are areas of opportunity to improve on. But 11 loses and people are disappointed we have that many.... We are going to get the best of every team especially the ones we're suppose to beat. Just think back to when the pacers didn't have a chance at the powerhouses and the team yet played them the toughest and had wins over big time opponents.

I think having the best record in the NBA shows you put forth a consistent effort when playing. Of course there is room for improvement, but when you have to completely dismiss their current record in order to argue a hypothetical, yeah......