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Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

Originally Posted by EnigmaO01

So what do purpose besides military action? Or are you just complaining again with no real solution?

How does this question even apply with Don's thread? How did you come up with Military action over what the US needs to spend for defense? Or to keep pace with what we do? Looks like you aren't up on those reading skills much either. Naturally this isn't surprising with a lefty such as yourself. But it is what it is.

Do you even try to come up with a thought other than trying to rant about what others think of the Democrats and or YOUR MAN BO peep!

Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

Originally Posted by Montecresto

So you mean to say its ok grabbing all the land you want as long as at some point you stop grabbing land. Face it. The US has annexed its fair share of land, and Russia and China don't give a **** what you think about it, but they've voiced their opinion, and they'll be doing just like the US and going after their interests.

Yep that's Right Monte. According to some we grew and became civilized and figured out we don't need to obliterate people and take their lands and make more states for the US.

Its those like China and Russia that think otherwise and that they can play bully. Step on the little people. Which says nothing about those Sunni and Shia that think they can impose their ways on people thru force, intimidation and terror.

Again it falls back to what one stands for.....and one thing that's for sure China, Russia, the Sunni and Shia, the N Koreans and the Pakistani. Do not stand for peace, justice, and liberty of freedom. They don't believe in giving respect.

But at least they know there is one country.....which is the US, that will make sure that they give us ours.

Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

Originally Posted by MMC

You got that Right. They are indeed and we even had a Russian Sub in the Gulf trying to get next to out Sub-base. I think we escorted them out or forced them out.

Russian nuclear bombers have flown into U.S. air space near Alaska multiple times in the last 10 days, several times causing the U.S. to deploy jet fighters. The strategic nuclear bombers have crossed into U.S. air defense zones 16 or more times, The Washington Free Beacon reported, which U.S. defense officials said is a significant increase over the usual number of times that occurs.

“Over the past week, NORAD has visually identified Russian aircraft operating in and around the U.S. air defense identification zones,” Maj. Beth Smith, spokeswoman for U.S. Northern Command and the North American Aerospace Defense Command, told the Free Beacon. Smith downplayed the potential threat, and said the incursions into U.S. air space were determined to be training missions or exercises. USA Today said this is the second spike in such activity seen since June and said the recent activity is tied to war exercises along eastern Ukraine. Gordeyev said that, along with patrols and searches for “foreign submarines,” the increased activity worked to ensure "the security of sea navigation and carrying out search and rescue, and scientific missions."

In April, a U.S. spy plane was approached by a Russian fighter jet in international airspace. In June, four Russian strategic bombers flew within 50 miles of the California coast as they did practice bombing runs near Alaska.

Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

Originally Posted by MMC

Moreover, the Russians have been testing us much more aggressively. Why do you think that is?

Because they know we are overextending our military resources, and are racking up one hell of a debt because of. The Russians know we have an expensive, confusing, and hypocritical foreign policy that has taxed our military for well over a decade now.

Put it in this perspective. The US spends more on our military than the next 8 to 10 nations combined (sources vary.) But even more disturbing, when you look at the entire planets spending on their respective nation's military might... US military spending accounts for some 38% of all military spending on this planet today. Yet our total population accounts for less than 5% of the world population. No one spends what we do on our military, no one is even close. The #2 spender, China, spends less than 30% of what we do. The #3 spender, Russia, spends less than 14% of what we do. The #4 spender, and down, are all in single digits.

I can appreciate a US admiral suggesting we be concerned about the Russian's tests of our resolve here and there. Our problem then is not liberals wanting to cut military spending, our clear problem is how we spend on our military to keep up with this expensive, confusing, and hypocritical foreign policy that all comes down to modern day imperial thinking.

We could cut our military spending by a third (perhaps even by half) and still spend far more than Russia and China does combined. At the same time we could handle Russia's tests here and there of our defensive resolve if we focused on domestic protections, instead of the present policy of running around the globe involved in way to many matters trying to instill our will to questionable results with one hell of a debt based expense.

But no one wants to hear these facts, they want to hear about how much more we can spend in a new round of Cold War with the adversary in full knowledge of our spending habits today. And worse, they are about to use that against us.

"Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people." - Penn Jillette.

Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

Originally Posted by MMC

Yep that's Right Monte. According to some we grew and became civilized and figured out we don't need to obliterate people and take their lands and make more states for the US.

Its those like China and Russia that think otherwise and that they can play bully. Step on the little people. Which says nothing about those Sunni and Shia that think they can impose their ways on people thru force, intimidation and terror.

Again it falls back to what one stands for.....and one thing that's for sure China, Russia, the Sunni and Shia, the N Koreans and the Pakistani. Do not stand for peace, justice, and liberty of freedom. They don't believe in giving respect.

But at least they know there is one country.....which is the US, that will make sure that they give us ours.

We grew out of our mischief, and now we are on parade as the righteous. Ok, I'll go with you.

Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

Originally Posted by OrphanSlug

Because they know we are overextending our military resources, and are racking up one hell of a debt because of. The Russians know we have an expensive, confusing, and hypocritical foreign policy that has taxed our military for well over a decade now.

Put it in this perspective. The US spends more on our military than the next 8 to 10 nations combined (sources vary.) But even more disturbing, when you look at the entire planets spending on their respective nation's military might... US military spending accounts for some 38% of all military spending on this planet today. Yet our total population accounts for less than 5% of the world population. No one spends what we do on our military, no one is even close. The #2 spender, China, spends less than 30% of what we do. The #3 spender, Russia, spends less than 14% of what we do. The #4 spender, and down, are all in single digits.

I can appreciate a US admiral suggesting we be concerned about the Russian's tests of our resolve here and there. Our problem then is not liberals wanting to cut military spending, our clear problem is how we spend on our military to keep up with this expensive, confusing, and hypocritical foreign policy that all comes down to modern day imperial thinking.

We could cut our military spending by a third (perhaps even by half) and still spend far more than Russia and China does combined. At the same time we could handle Russia's tests here and there of our defensive resolve if we focused on domestic protections, instead of the present policy of running around the globe involved in way to many matters around trying to instill our will to questionable results with one hell of a debt based expense.

But no one wants to hear these facts, they want to hear about how much more we can spend in a new round of Cold War with the adversary in full knowledge of our spending habits today. And worse, they are about to use that against us.

Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

Originally Posted by joG

Well, had Ukraine belonged to Nato with Nato troops on the Krim? You are right and the Europeans should have realized that, when they went about the association treaty with Ukraine. But I was thinking of a more intrusive mix of measures.

True. But it's that Putin had every reason to anticipate that that was the next step. Russia will prevent, or die trying, a Ukrainian NATO state.

Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

Originally Posted by Montecresto

True. But it's that Putin had every reason to anticipate that that was the next step. Russia will prevent, or die trying, a Ukrainian NATO state.

No he didn't. Ukraine had asked for membership and been turned down.
The trade agreement does have that title 2, article 7 that those idiots in Brussels and Berlin put in without securing the boarders.

Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

Originally Posted by OrphanSlug

Because they know we are overextending our military resources, and are racking up one hell of a debt because of. The Russians know we have an expensive, confusing, and hypocritical foreign policy that has taxed our military for well over a decade now.

Put it in this perspective. The US spends more on our military than the next 8 to 10 nations combined (sources vary.) But even more disturbing, when you look at the entire planets spending on their respective nation's military might... US military spending accounts for some 38% of all military spending on this planet today. Yet our total population accounts for less than 5% of the world population. No one spends what we do on our military, no one is even close. The #2 spender, China, spends less than 30% of what we do. The #3 spender, Russia, spends less than 14% of what we do. The #4 spender, and down, are all in single digits.

I can appreciate a US admiral suggesting we be concerned about the Russian's tests of our resolve here and there. Our problem then is not liberals wanting to cut military spending, our clear problem is how we spend on our military to keep up with this expensive, confusing, and hypocritical foreign policy that all comes down to modern day imperial thinking.

We could cut our military spending by a third (perhaps even by half) and still spend far more than Russia and China does combined. At the same time we could handle Russia's tests here and there of our defensive resolve if we focused on domestic protections, instead of the present policy of running around the globe involved in way to many matters trying to instill our will to questionable results with one hell of a debt based expense.

But no one wants to hear these facts, they want to hear about how much more we can spend in a new round of Cold War with the adversary in full knowledge of our spending habits today. And worse, they are about to use that against us.

Mornin OS. China has increased their Military spending.....Russia has increased theirs. Others are doing the same. Despite the economics for each's own perspective.