Currency Lad: Did you know that “George” means “sacrifice in the desert”?

If you missed it last night, I highly recommend the latest episode of Anh’s Brush With Fame.

The famous person featured was none other than Lindy Chamberlain. I’ve never seen or appreciated her like this. She is a strong, admirable woman, and a heroic Christian. It is testament to Anh Do’s sincerity and humane depth that he brought so much out of his subject – on this occasion, more memorably in conversation than on canvas. The story Lindy told that brought them both to tears was harrowingly sad. This was the best 27 minutes of television I’ve watched for a long time.

Here was a woman whose demeanor was disliked, who was a member of a vilified Christian sect, who was calumniated by malicious journalists and targeted by vengeful police officers, who was victimised by a disgracefully incompetent investigation, who was subjected to multiple trials and who was falsely imprisoned.

Stackja Who is GP and why use an acronym? Please don’t say to save you time because it did not save you much and now my query? Unless you are a public servant (Is any term more wrong) then of course I understand! Everyone knows all the joke about laziness, sloth and inefficiency.

I think you’ve got it.
Azaria was apparently named after King Azariah of Judah who reportedly reigned for 52 years during the 8th century BC and who according to Assyrian sources stood at the head of an anti-Assyrian alliance between 743 and 738 BC.
Biblical texts report that he was stricken with leprosy at the time and ruled through his son Jotham. Though he was regarded by biblical chroniclers as “a man who did what was right in the sight of the Lord” and was buried with honours, his affliction rendered hin “unclean” and consequently “his acts … were not written in the book of chronicles of the kings of Judah”.

The lynching of Lindy Chamberlain buy an incompetent police force, a screeching media, and the baying mob if public opinion as one of Australia’s great acts of shame. I would not have the heart to tell Lindy Chamberlain that her suffering was in vain because despite the changes in the law we still lynch innocent people without any corroborating much less forensic evidence.

I was quite young at the time but yes I believed Lindy ‘did it’. I had no prejudice against her. I believed she was guilty simply because the police said she did it and I still trusted them. I didn’t think they could be so incompetent or so vicious. They had such strong ‘evidence’. All that ‘blood’ in the car, the jacket that was cut by ‘scissors’, bloody handprints etc. etc. What disgrace.

The Justice system in Australia was designed by people and is carried out by people and people are far from perfect and all are prone to making mistakes and acting corruptly.
Only a fool would think our Justice system is fair and not ever corrupt.

Adelagado
#2997162, posted on April 25, 2019 at 3:19 pm
I was quite young at the time but yes I believed Lindy ‘did it’. I had no prejudice against her. I believed she was guilty simply because the police said she did it and I still trusted them. I didn’t think they could be so incompetent or so vicious. They had such strong ‘evidence’. All that ‘blood’ in the car, the jacket that was cut by ‘scissors’, bloody handprints etc. etc. What disgrace.

The “narrative” promoted at the time was unbelievable. One element was that the baby was killed and cut up in their car and hidden in a camera bag. They then later gave a district nurse a lift in the same car.

Any with police experience here care to comment on the practicality of cleaning the car adequately before letting the nurse sit in it?

I wonder if any of those who vilified Lindy Chamberlain and judged her to be guilty of killing her own child because she didn’t show “sufficient” emotion at her trial, had a thought for her when they read this week of a toddler being dragged away from a camper trailer by a dingo.

I don’t know what you mean.
I can’t remember the details. Just that there was something about an outer jacket that had cuts in it that the cops said was made by the murder weapon, not by the Dingo’s teeth. Years later, the other item, the jumpsuit I guess, was found at the base of rock where a tourist fell and died.

I wonder if any of those who vilified Lindy Chamberlain and judged her to be guilty of killing her own child because she didn’t show “sufficient” emotion at her trial, had a thought for her when they read this week of a toddler being dragged away from a camper trailer by a dingo.

One of the stupidest pieces of ‘evidence’ produced by police at her trial was forensic ‘science’ showing that multiple parts and areas of Michael Chamberlain’s Torana were covered in foetal haemoglobin. It was later shown to be a factory sound deadener spray.
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It was the matinee jacket that was found by chance during the search for the climber’s body.

Sfw is referencing one of the old phony-conundrums of the case; namely that the jumpsuit was found in one piece with a lot of blood around the neck. It was claimed the garment couldn’t be so in tact, with no remains of Azara in it, unless there was human involvement. The lead detective always insisted this was the case but the truth is he didn’t know what he was talking about. Dingoes, in fact, are now known to be precisely this deft if the meat they’re devouring is wrapped up in some way. Nobody in the NT police was at risk of being admitted to Mensa. They were lazy, gormless clowns.

I think the item was just folded, Mark. It had bloodstains around the collar.

She was exonerated at the first inquest. The police then involved an “expert” from the UK to come up with the right analysis. It was pure malice. They didn’t like her and neither did the press.

They hated that this grieving young mum would arrive at court composed and well groomed. She wore nice clothes from that haut couture designer, Katies. There was a ton of b/s swirling around about the Sevvies and their debbildebbil juju ways.

And it was chattered about around dinner tables across the country. Everyone had an opinion.

One of the stupidest pieces of ‘evidence’ produced by police at her trial was forensic ‘science’ showing that multiple parts and areas of Michael Chamberlain’s Torana were covered in foetal haemoglobin. It was later shown to be a factory sound deadener spray.

Dear lord. They may be both organic ligand-metal complexes but I’d say any decent anal. chemist could figure out the two are different.

Sfw
#2997179, posted on April 25, 2019 at 3:53 pm

Adelago how did the jumpsuit end in the condition it was in?

There was an Aboriginal eyewitness that countermanded the police and proseuction’s submitted evidence and probanda all along. She has always stuck to her story.

As an aside, I happened to hear a Radio National Law Report episode today regarding “evidence” and specifically mentioning the clothing of Azaria Chamberlain. Apparently after Lindy was cleared, the evidence was returned to her, and she and Michael then arranged to donate the evidence back to the nation, where it is now held in perpetuity, but unlikely to ever be displayed to the public. There is mention of the clothing being in very dirty condition, doesn’t sound like anything was washed.
I am eternally grateful that I lived overseas during this saga and was spared the nightmare of the eternal media controversy.

I recall being about early 20s. Just out of uni. To this day i am ashamed that we all thought she did it. The public wete sure she was guilty. We were mad.

But i am sure these sort of injustices will continue. I dont believe our legal system is corrupt but it can be swayed. Better than communist or nazi legal systems. Atcthe moment pellnos the worst example of bad justice.

If you read about the case the first conclusion was that a dingo took the baby but the Northern Territory Police do not want to accept it. So they searched high and low and even scoured the world for experts to produce the most stupid forensic evidence possible. I mean some of it was so stupid that it to find what we all have known for centuries like blood Drive within seconds or as they had sticky residue under dashboards for month. The stupidest piece of evidence was in fact that produced by so-called forensic scientist Joy Kuhl who allegedly found fetal hemoglobin all over the car. Such hemoglobin is present in babies ‘ blood up to 6 month old “The foetal haemoglobin in the Chamberlains’ car was later found to be a ‘sound deadener’ sprayed on during the manufacture of the car.”

As far as I understand it there are three appeal judge’s and first of all Pell has to be granted leave for an appeal before an appeal can be heard. I have such little faith in the Victorian justice system – actually I have zero faith in it – that if Pell was not granted leave to appeal it would not surprise me at all.

The thing that put Lindy Chamberlain behind bars was the egregious prejudice against her particular brand of religious belief.

Today, that same virulent Leftard hatred of Christians and Christian belief which once wrongly jailed Lindy Chamberlain, can even put innocent Cardinals behind bars despite the joke blind, deaf, dumb and bent Labor Police Farce “investigations” where the Keystone brigade call for auditions by any and all aspiring Jizzy Smellitts, Stormy Daniels and Christine Blatant Frauds, for the star acting role of lucrative potential compo-gouger and self-proclaimed “victim” – despite the utter absence of any means, motive, opportunity, witnesses, corroboration, evidence of any sort whatsoever, and also despite several reliable witnesses who testified that they were with G.P. during all of the time when the alleged “offence” was improbably gillarded to have occurred.

Had the crime for which G.P. was dubiously accused, been committed by a Musbyterian or by the Federal Leader of a certain large, virulently anti-Christian political Party of the Leftard persuasion, we would not have heard a peep from all these deafening Leftard foghorns of ‘Got Up’ faux moral outrage.

Remember the haven’t just jailed George Pell, they also attempted to jail Archbishop Wilson and actually did falsely imprison an a 80 year old Christian brother for nearly a year. The other day I recalled a conversation I had with a stranger at a tram stop when I was 16 and reflected that today such a conversation would not only be impossible, it will see me either dead or in jail.

The thing that put Lindy Chamberlain behind bars was the egregious prejudice against her particular brand of religious belief.

I was very solemnly assured that the child’s name, Azaria” meant “sacrifice in the wilderness” and, from “someone who had lived in the same street as the family,” that “they dressed that child, in black, all her life.”

supporting evidence;
2/. coz weird religious cult, and “Azaria” meant “Sacrifice in the Wilderness”
3/. the whole show smelled of King-sized rats, coz of jumpsuit found neatly folded & hidden in the bush.
4/. I knew no way would a Dingo ever come inside a camp.

When years later it transpired that there was no forensic evidence, and the coppers had made the whole thing up, right down to a fairy tale where Mrs. Chamberlain slunk away from a campfire yarn, viciously slashed the baby to death in the car, calmly and callously returned to the game of cribbage or whatever, then after starting the biggest manhunt, sorry Dingo hunt, Ayers Rock had ever seen, somehow dodging the spotlight that comes with being the frantically panicked young mother who’d just had a baby taken by wild animals, and sneaked off with the corpse under her arm to sling it into the scrub where it would magically not be found by the horde of searchers, well I wanted the coppers who’d railroaded her (and the “forensic” expert) to serve the rest of her term in her stead.

That nothing happened to those bastards, not even nasty words from her when she was let out, is a travesty.

Also to the eternal shame of the police prosecutors and the ignorant malicious journalists was the total disregard for facts presented by the Aboriginal and farming communities ,that dingos had been carrying off lambs from farms for decades and Aboriginal children had also been attacked and killed.
A Grandfather with Aboriginal connections was taught to call in the dingos that were killing his lambs and taking them back to their dens whilst sitting in a tree gun at the ready.

The thing that put Lindy Chamberlain behind bars was the egregious prejudice against her particular brand of religious belief.

I was very solemnly assured that the child’s name, Azaria” meant “sacrifice in the wilderness” and, from “someone who had lived in the same street as the family,” that “they dressed that child, in black, all her life.”

I was n high school at the time and remember this otherwise very nice girl assurring me that sevvies would sacrifice their first born. She was most offended when I laughed at her. The main difference as far as I can tell between sevvies and methodists was the sabbath thing. And so conservative back in the day that in childish reaction it produced the likes of Bob Ellis.

By coincidence rather than planning, I watched that episode. (I didn’t know that Anh Do could paint.)

Anyway, at the time of the child’s disappearance, I was in my early 20’s and like Adelagado upthread, I believed Lindy was guilty. It also wasn’t an anti-Lindy thing but like Adelagado, I accepted she was guilty simply because the police said she did it and I still trusted them. It never occurred to me that they would be so blindingly incompetent or vicious in their prosecution. Coupled with a baying media who peddled so many ‘truths’, it was not really a surprise that much of the public also thought she was guilty.

Not much later it became equally obvious that she wasn’t guilty and that an enormous perversion of the legal system had been perpetrated upon her and the rest of her family.

I was deeply shocked and in many respects it was also a turning point in my life. No longer would I merely accept the word of the Police and ‘experts’ without thoroughly satisfying myself that their assertions were reasonable and logical. My distrust of politicians had been set up a few years before and essentially, with the Chamberlain incident, my trust in the words of ‘authority’ had been extinguished.

The Chamberlain incident changed a great many things in this country. I’m sorry that she had to go through it, but many people, like myself, never forgot the travesty we witnessed and now question much of that told to us as ‘fact’ by our Government, the experts and the media. I hope that Lindy Chamberlain’s legacy will endure long after the actual cause of it is forgotten.

Hopefully all those dialect experts who’ve been saying Meryl Streep stuffed up the accent in “Evil Angels/Cry in the Dark”, I hope they were watching, or rather, that they were listening to Lindy speaking.

I was deeply shocked and in many respects it was also a turning point in my life. No longer would I merely accept the word of the Police and ‘experts’ without thoroughly satisfying myself that their assertions were reasonable and logical. My distrust of politicians had been set up a few years before and essentially, with the Chamberlain incident, my trust in the words of ‘authority’ had been extinguished.

Very similar to my experience – I have never trusted faceless bureaucracy since.

The Chamberlain case remains burned into my memory (and my wife’s) because our eldest son was about nine weeks during the trial period (same age as Azaria).

We were firm Christians even then and knew enough about the various sects of Christianity to know that the “sacrifice in the wilderness” stuff was rot, and we knew our Bibles well enough to know who the original Azariah was (masculine form of the name, see earlier post).

If you can find a copy of the book Evil Angels – companion to the film – read the part about the crew and actors finding it physically impossible to reconstruct the police version of events in the transcript of evidence. It needed a Rumpole character to bring that out in the trial, when it mattered – didn’t happen, of course.

We and many of our Christian friends were old enough to see through the media hysterics and the film brought the actual trial into sharp focus for me, so we have always, always believed Lindy should have been acquitted. But we understand how so many were swayed by the hype and the innocent trust in “the authorities.” As others above have said, it taught us to be cautious about media bias and anti-Christian sentiment within particular sections of the community.

Abednego, the new name given to Azariah who is the companion of Daniel, Hananiah, and Mishael in the Book of Daniel (Daniel 1:6-7)
Azariah (guardian angel), the subject of the “Book of Azariah” by Maria Valtorta; the name given Raphael as companion of Tobias in the book of Tobit
Azariah (prophet), a prophet (2 Chronicles 15:1-8)
Azariah (high priest) high priest of Israel (1 Kings 4:2)
Azariah II, another high priest, in the reign of Uzziah (2 Chronicles 26:17-20)
Eleazar ben Azariah, the Mishnaic sage
Uzziah, King of Judah, also known as Azariah

I put it to you that it is indeed quite a holy name for Christians and their spiritual ancestors.

Pro tip for Scomo: At press conferences, do not remind us that after Christchurch you in Canberra were ahead of the NZ security services & called it as “right-wing” terrorism, pausing only to in a choking voice tell us to “hug each other”

You wonder why people may wish to put Senator Anning #1
There’s your answer, Scomo, Senator Anning doesn’t wet his pants, he speaks accurately without caring what the sensitivities of the ROP may be.