Comments on: I’m voting for Bennetthttp://blogs.timesofisrael.com/im-voting-for-bennett/
The Marketplace of IdeasSun, 18 Feb 2018 03:07:41 +0200hourly1By: Varda Epsteinhttp://blogs.timesofisrael.com/im-voting-for-bennett/#comment-87574
Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:04:01 +0000http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=92032#comment-87574I don't know about that, but if it's true, Rav Lior did not appoint candidates to the Jewish Home. He appointed them to a party that after the fact, merged with Bennett's party. If it's important for you to run down the facts, I suggest you write to Jeremy Man Saltan, whose address is cited in my blog post.
]]>By: David Brookshttp://blogs.timesofisrael.com/im-voting-for-bennett/#comment-87572
Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:22:44 +0000http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=92032#comment-87572Again, since this is obviously tricky for you, Bennett will be the last person to change anything. His slip-ups reveal his true nature. He's Netanyahu 2.0 I'm sick and tired of people putting emotions ahead of facts when deciding elections! It's the end of democracy!
]]>By: Nehemia Sternhttp://blogs.timesofisrael.com/im-voting-for-bennett/#comment-87566
Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:07:20 +0000http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=92032#comment-87566"He is not aligned with or taking orders from Rav Dov Lior."

Isn't Rav Lior on the committee that appointed the candidates from Tkumah? Tkumah and Jewish Home formed an alliance. Jewish Home has primaries and Tkumah doesn't.

]]>By: יונתן קניקרבוקרhttp://blogs.timesofisrael.com/im-voting-for-bennett/#comment-87568
Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:41:38 +0000http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=92032#comment-87568It is a waste of time for me also. I'm afraid to abandon the truth because living a lie for my entire life the way you do is a stupid way to go. As far as shallow goes, that's rich coming from someone who has ZERO answers. You'll wake up one day…
]]>By: יונתן קניקרבוקרhttp://blogs.timesofisrael.com/im-voting-for-bennett/#comment-87570
Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:31:47 +0000http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=92032#comment-87570No, I would reserve that term for you. Putz.
]]>By: Ben Needlemanhttp://blogs.timesofisrael.com/im-voting-for-bennett/#comment-85300
Thu, 10 Jan 2013 02:10:56 +0000http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=92032#comment-85300Yonatan, discussing this with you is a waste of time. You are too afraid to abandon your blind faith because the thought of life having no meaning is too terrifying. Your responses to my argument were shallow-but I guess you dont see that.
]]>By: Ben Needlemanhttp://blogs.timesofisrael.com/im-voting-for-bennett/#comment-85302
Thu, 10 Jan 2013 01:47:21 +0000http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=92032#comment-85302lololol- I love it when people try and justify the slaughter of babies.

Your blind faith prevents you from acknowledging that if god exists he is a barstard like none other

]]>By: Yonatan Knickerbockerhttp://blogs.timesofisrael.com/im-voting-for-bennett/#comment-85140
Wed, 09 Jan 2013 17:05:18 +0000http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=92032#comment-85140A) You write "You are a hypocrit by believing one book and ignoring another." Really Ben? One book contains the truth and the other lies. I'm a hypocrite because I don't believe all books? You can do better than that.

B) Divine providence – what you see as happenstance, I see as the Hand of G-d directing things. People saved from direct rocket attacks that hit their car.

C) I have an answer which you cannot disprove, you have nothing. You don't like my answer so rather than admit that my answer is a possibility, you say "I don't know so I won't believe anything. " Nice. Very intellectually honest of you.

As far as your quoting of Shmuel, because you have no belief in G-d, there's no way for you to understand that G-d knows a bit better than you what is good or bad. You have a basic knowledge which is tied to what you can see or know. But there are things that you cannot see or know that come into play. You base your judgements on incomplete evidence and as such you will be wrong in your judgement from time to time. Had Shmuel listened to G-g and destroyed the Amalekites, Haman wouldn't have been born. There's much more to learn from this, but I don't want to spend my time giving lessons to someone that doesn't believe or care.

]]>By: Varda Epsteinhttp://blogs.timesofisrael.com/im-voting-for-bennett/#comment-85130
Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:53:09 +0000http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=92032#comment-85130You writing something doesn't make it true and my son is an adult. His views are his own. If you plan on following my blogs just to issue hypothetical challenges, it might be better for you to follow someone else. I'm probably going to lose interest and stop responding. I'm funny that way. Note that I never brought up God or religion. That would be YOU.
]]>By: Ben Needlemanhttp://blogs.timesofisrael.com/im-voting-for-bennett/#comment-85138
Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:58:47 +0000http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=92032#comment-85138Your whole 1st paragraph is a joke. I cant imagine you being a good talmudic scholar. I acknowledged that I can never disprove god, just like I can never ever disprove the toothfairy. I will treat both as equaly valid until I see more proof.

But finally you have progressed this debate, you try and bring 'évidence'.
a)Holy Books- Why are your holy books correct? Thousands of people were supposedly witnesses to Jesus performing miracles and being resurrected. You are a hypocrit by believing one book and ignoring another.
b) What does it mean to see divine providence in stuff? I assume this is the worn out: things in nature are so beautiful that there must have been some creator argument. Just because a flower is beautiful or nature works so perfectly does not in and of itself prove anything. Things are the way they are today because of millions of years of evolution. This leads to the next question of where did this all come from?
c) Yes I cannot explain how the universe started, but it is immature to immediately then conclude that god exists. How is it more intellectually respectable to say: I do not know how the universe came into being therefore there is a great all powerful all knowing deity who created this world and wants me to behave in a certain way, than, I dont know how the world was created and thus will not believe in anything until I have evidence to back up my assertion. If I ask you, where did god come from, you will either say 'i dont know' or 'he always existed'. Both of these are unsatisfying arguments which boggle the imagination. This made up god is now so infinitely complex that I cannot fathom how trusting in that hypothesis is more rational than at the very least agnosticism.

Go read/watch some richard dawkins or christopher hitchens, you need some exposure to alternate thinking. Dont rely on 'feelings' they are not good guides.

]]>By: Ben Needlemanhttp://blogs.timesofisrael.com/im-voting-for-bennett/#comment-85148
Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:45:01 +0000http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=92032#comment-85148Yonatan Knickerbocker, if you have any understanding of contemporary internet culture, then this is for you:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY

Although, I am interested in what you think about this:

In the book of Samuel (1 Samuel 15:3 to be precise), God says 'Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys'. In other words, your 'morality' is based on a god who directly orders the slaughter of innocents. He ordered the genocide of an entire people, for a crime they committed generations earlier, and even if there were sinners amongst them, surely the babes sucking at the teat, too young to crawl, talk or even possess a heretical thought were innocent of any crime-but no-your god seeks their murder too, for the crime of their forefathers.

is that moral? No. Its genocidal mania. Im glad however that that helps guide your morality.

what the heck is wrong with you? I provide you with analysis and argument and you time and time again return to the same simplistic rhetoric without engaging with my material.

You and your homophic son (http://oi48.tinypic.com/oielnq.jpg) are exhibit A and B for how religion can seriously retard. Your belief that some deity gave the jews this land (and all of it) means you are willing to forgo all reality on the ground to obtain your aim of obtaining land land land.

Land is worthless. Life, love, friends and family is worth everything. Doing good for others is worth everything. You piss on the lives and freedoms of others to obtain more land. You will be blessed if one day you realise your folly.

Bye Varda. I look forward to your next blog update.

It would even be nice if you dedicated your next blog to your sons comment that the torah thinks that all gays are sinners and the democracy comes second to god. Lets see what your opinion is on that. There, Ive made your job easy by providing you with your next topic.

]]>By: Yonatan Knickerbockerhttp://blogs.timesofisrael.com/im-voting-for-bennett/#comment-85136
Wed, 09 Jan 2013 13:54:00 +0000http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=92032#comment-85136No, you don't get it. To distill this down to your ridiculous statement that you should "Go believe in something because it cannot be disproven" is a childish way of thinking. You made a statement : "The fact that something cannot be disproven does not prove its existence." I simply showed you the reverse is also true: "The fact that something cannot be proven does not disprove its existence." So your logic is faulty and without meaning.

My belief is tied to holy books, history and an innate connection to the Creator. Where I see divine providence in all things, you see as mere happenstance. Your idea that there is no Creator leaves you without any answer to how the universe started. Something cannot come from nothing. Who believes in fairies in the sky now?

]]>By: Varda Epsteinhttp://blogs.timesofisrael.com/im-voting-for-bennett/#comment-85126
Wed, 09 Jan 2013 13:48:15 +0000http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=92032#comment-85126They can build their own infrastructure instead of depending upon Israel. That is part of self-government. They certainly have lots of funding to do so, should they so choose. The only thing we can control is entry and exit points. If there were peace, I imagine these would be relaxed, just as we do elsewhere. As long as they insist on wielding terror, they cannot expect to have free movement into and out of Israel.
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