I'd have had a good stare but not grabbed her tail.The world has gone mad ! Can't fart without offending some people.He's a young lad, he'll learn that you can't do that sort of thing to a woman but they can to a bloke and it'll be ok and funny then !

RonK wrote:I watched the presentation with my wife, and neither of us noticed Sagan was actually groping the podium girl. Seems by his own admission we were unobservant. Impressive self-righteousness though.

So if some guy on the street came up to one of the women who are important to you (wife/sister/daughter) and uninvited grabbed them on the ass you'd do nothing for fear of being labelled self-righteous?

Dude, in a civilised society, grabbing other people's butts is not cool. He is lucky it happened in Belgium and not in US, UK or Australia (common law countries). He would be looking for a lawyer right now instead of training. There's battery tort right there (just to start with)

RonK wrote:I watched the presentation with my wife, and neither of us noticed Sagan was actually groping the podium girl. Seems by his own admission we were unobservant. Impressive self-righteousness though.

The telecast was zoomed in on Cancellara at the time, but it was noticed by people at the time, including both the photographer & Ms Leye. As for being self righteous, "I was just joking" is a tired and lame excuse that is regularly offered up as the excuse for harassment. I noticed you edited out the quote from Ms Leye. At least you had the good sense not to offer up what you think is the "correct" conclusion.

Well, she had a good laugh, and here is my wife's message to you: blokes commenting about blokes behaviour comes across as shallow and disingenuous. Women can speak for themselves...

Interesting that there have been no comments from female forum members. But she gave me the distillation of the responses to this beatup from her female cycling friends:

He's 23 and a Slovak, probably some cultural differences and def some growing up to do. He could have done better, I'm sure he won't do it again. Fantastic rider to watch though. Can't wait to see him in Le Tour

warthog1 wrote:He's 23 and a Slovak, probably some cultural differences and def some growing up to do. He could have done better, I'm sure he won't do it again. Fantastic rider to watch though. Can't wait to see him in Le Tour

I said cultural differences, how that transfers to hillbillies I am unsure. We are judging him through our societal values not Slovakian ones, which I am sure aren't identical. Not trying to excuse his behaviour just put a different perspective on it.

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