tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post8804766201990374768..comments2015-03-30T20:06:16.342-07:00Comments on Quark Soup by David Appell: Fashionable ApocalypsesDavid Appellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03318269033139447591noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-2629133622222319512012-11-06T15:47:30.608-08:002012-11-06T15:47:30.608-08:00Carl: I provided global graphs, here:
http://david...Carl: I provided global graphs, here:<br />http://davidappell.blogspot.com/2012/10/about-sandy-and-ultimate-in-cherry.html<br /><br />I don&#39;t see the trends there. Am I wrong?<br /><br />David Appellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03318269033139447591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-53856508657934171412012-11-05T09:37:12.228-08:002012-11-05T09:37:12.228-08:00@Carl Safina
Here is a look at global hurricane d...@Carl Safina<br /><br />Here is a look at global hurricane data: http://policlimate.com/tropical/global_major_freq.png<br /><br />Here is a look a Roger Pielke Jr. graph where he has normalized US hurricane damage: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-a33CrrOCDHA/UJLqAWbm6aI/AAAAAAAACIY/CWVIhnDF7QE/s1600/normdam2012.jpgPantsOnFirehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17175999630090589442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-87721495023529483722012-11-04T16:21:01.886-08:002012-11-04T16:21:01.886-08:00What matters is not the convenient labels so easil...What matters is not the convenient labels so easily put on people, &quot;activists&quot; or whatever, and what those many different groups may choose to do.<br /><br />What matters is the human toll. 110 Americans, at least, died with this storm. Something like 100,000 homes and businesses have been destroyed so the death toll could have been far worse. The vast majority who died were killed by rising flood-waters in areas that were under orders to evacuate. They did not. They ignored government authorities telling them to leave, or waited too late. Why did this happen? How can we avoid it in future? Are you proposing anything that would actually make that situation better?Arthurhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06249922708053689717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-43575092709088788212012-11-04T05:53:40.322-08:002012-11-04T05:53:40.322-08:00Good point, Dave, and as you can tell from the com...Good point, Dave, and as you can tell from the comments, a point that will be ignored. Warmists have relentlessly used the same ineffective techniques for years now and never seem to notice how badly served they are. Why is that, in your opinion?Mike Manganhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13416235741182138217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-9707425940084849732012-11-04T04:32:05.858-08:002012-11-04T04:32:05.858-08:00More air blowing here. How about some analysis. A ...More air blowing here. How about some analysis. A graph of hurricane frequency, storm diameter, and max category strength for all named Atlantic coast storms of the last 50 years would help.Carl Safinahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17797865624556060459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-87006617417919771662012-11-03T23:20:46.656-07:002012-11-03T23:20:46.656-07:00GET ME REWRITE: &quot;I am not saying climate chan...GET ME REWRITE: &quot;I am not saying climate change will come to be seen as obsolete and trivial. IT won&#39;t. It&#39;s real and we need to pay attention. The very existence of the human species is at stake. In fact, -- it&#39;s a potential calamity of a unique order, though we&#39;re in the beginning of it -- it&#39;s the projections which are scary, which is why so many scientists are so deeply concerned about it in a different sense than any previous threat .....But climate denialists like David Appell can become an hysterical, too, ....using it for his particular rightwing denialist purposes. Blaming everything on climate change is as misleading as ignoring or denying it completely. Clearly &#39;&#39;some&#39;&#39; climate activists like Danny Bloom and climate denialists like Anthony Watts have calculated that their PR message is worth the risk to their trustworthiness.&#39;&#39;<br /><br />taiwan77http://www.blogger.com/profile/03772680391560547991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-25331895854682409742012-11-03T22:33:13.639-07:002012-11-03T22:33:13.639-07:00david
you rushed to judgment. in fact, most climat...david<br />you rushed to judgment. in fact, most climate activists said that Climate change and Global warming had nothing do with what i call &quot;northeastercaine Sandy&quot; ...and i am deep climate acitivsit polar city man, and I also say CC and AGW had nothing to do with the storm. I remember one like this in 1955 in western mass. and 1938 my dad told me. and there are always storms. So to conclude, CC and AGW had nothing to do with the storm. BUT surely david, climate chaos is coming down the road, in around 300 to 500 years and the images from Sandy will help and serve as a wake up call for what is coming down ThE ROAD, 30 generations from now. if you do not believe me google POLAR CITY RED by Jim Laughter, written based on my work that Andy Revkin wrote about in NYT in 2008. google &quot;polar cities + danny bloom&quot; to see. We are indeed headed to near extinction of human species by 1000 years from now due to climate chaos. So Sandy is good and important media wake up call. Yes no?Unknownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11513127607008053048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-3352072081517592552012-11-03T20:35:43.424-07:002012-11-03T20:35:43.424-07:00on CNN, Christine AMANPOUR interviews several pro...on CNN, Christine AMANPOUR interviews several professors and experst who talked about how climat echange was part of SANDY story, <br /><br />ask ,m,e DAN BLOOM reproter iN taiwan<br /><br />http://pcillu101.blogspot.comdanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05130493903696077379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-31446880388252330392012-11-03T20:13:18.536-07:002012-11-03T20:13:18.536-07:00Each of those &quot;fashionable apocalypses&quot; ...Each of those &quot;fashionable apocalypses&quot; were squashed (or managed in the case of nukes and bio-warfare) with huge legislation and treaties. <br /><br />Distaste is not a strong enough argument against eminent danger. mikehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07359645114418634631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-34055415988638756752012-11-03T13:21:05.226-07:002012-11-03T13:21:05.226-07:00I am not part of the blog-o-sphere that long, but ...I am not part of the blog-o-sphere that long, but what strikes me is the climate of fear among the &quot;sceptics&quot; since Sandy. WUWT alone has 21 posts on <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/?s=sandy" rel="nofollow">Sandy</a>. Have people with more experience seen a larger extreme?<br /><br />Even if it is not fair to blame Sandy on climate change, I would not like to be in their shoes. It was also not fair to blame the Italian earthquake on the scientists that said it was not more likely to occur. <br /><br />Warning too much damages your credibility. Warning too little can cost lives and make you mighty unpopular. Poor &quot;sceptics&quot;.Victor Venemahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02842816166712285801noreply@blogger.com