Thanks for the sites, yep, those are the web-things I mean. They're good, but as several of the posts have shown, not everyone seems to mean quite the same thing, even when they use the same words (this post a case in point) - just wondering whether a more thesaurus-style reference with more than one contributor would help the hapless like myself. (and yes, I'm essentially lazy - or to put it another way, trying to get my {forum} uke to do my work for me)