‘Double standards’ over Russia’s missile sale to Turkey

The contract between Turkey and Russia for the sale of the S-400s has yet to be signed

Cyprus should issue a demarche to Russia over the latter’s plans to sell Turkey its S-400 anti-aircraft missile system, former House speaker Yiannakis Omirou said on Monday.

Earlier this year, Turkey and Russia reached a preliminary deal for the sale to Ankara of S-400 missile interceptor batteries.

The contract has yet to be signed.

In a statement, Omirou cited the intense pressure brought to bear on Cyprus from international players to cancel the acquisition of S-300 missiles from Moscow in the late 1990s.

But now, he added, no such reactions were forthcoming concerning Turkey’s intentions to procure the upgraded S-400 system.

It was therefore up to Nicosia to point out to the international community that it “there should be no double standards.”

Omirou served as defence minister in 1998, under the administration of Glafcos Clerides, at the height of the S-300 ‘missile crisis’.

“In 1998…I was being constantly visited by the ambassadors of Great Britain, the United States and EU member states. Their message was the same: that the missile system must not be installed in Cyprus because this would create tensions in the region and would undermine, supposedly, the prospects for a peaceful resolution of the Cyprus problem and would pose difficulties to the fulfilment of Cyprus’ EU ambitions.

“Of course, behind these arguments lay the concern, mostly of Britain and the United States, over the capability of the Russian missile system to end the exclusive monitoring of the region by British radars.”

In January 1997, Cyprus announced the purchase of the Russian missile system S-300 for an undisclosed amount, with subsequent estimates ranging from €200 to €300 million. Less than a week later came a warning for pre-emptive military action by Turkey.

In November 1998, in a meeting between Clerides and Greece’s then Prime Minister Costas Simitis, it was agreed that the missiles would be transferred to Crete, with Cyprus receiving shorter-range missiles and other military equipment.

The author has lost the plot. The Russian system has a range of up to 300KM and has 3 types of missiles. So what does this do to the Greek Airforce which is superior to the Turkish airforce. Answer it neutralises it giving the Turks air superiority over the Aegean and the islands making a land invasion easy when combined with the new aircraft carriers they are building.So how does this effect Cyprus, well Cyprus does not have an effective airforce and those S 300 missiles Cyprus bought from the Russians well they are on Crete. The aircraft carrier the Turks are building is there to bully a gas deal from Cyprus and there is nothing Cyprus can do about this. Erdogan is expanding the borders of Turkey through words first and in 2020 by force.

MisterSamsung Galaxy

Equality (even in this day and age) is for the powerful. From the microcosm of Cypriot society to the macrocosm of nation states, might is right.
Cyprus needs to emulate Singapore or Israel. Having the law on your side is insufficient without military might.

Roger Thecabinboy

This probably more about Turkey trying to prove a point to NATO and the Orange Fart with small hands rather than Cyprus, and as is usual Russia is hoping to stoke up a good blaze…in the days of the USSR they were quite happy to use Cyprus to this end,..and in 1974 it was the relative importance of Turkey to NATO as opposed to that of Cyprus which was why the USA and UK did not use military force to stop the Invasion as it would push Turkey to Russia (who privately gave Turkey a commitment they would not intervene to stop the Invasion ). The Coup was the work of the Greek Government of the time, the Junta in its final death throes, and their traitorous Cypriot supporters, not (contrary to many conspiracy theories) the work of the USA.

Dave The Impaler

Actually this is more about the US/NATO blocking turkey from buying state of the art long range (made in the USA) SAM systems and turkey settling for 3rd best. Congress even blocked turkey from using US funds to buy missile systems from blacklisted Chinese firms.

ROC

Well said I was not aware of that, but I knew there was some sort of hidden agenda behind this, Its seems that Nato does not trust Turkey anymore,

HighTide

A decisive factor for this deal was Russia’s agreement to have the second two units manufactured in Turkey with the resulting technology transfer. Well done.

Paranam Kid

1.The world relies heavily on double standards
2. The missiles are defensive, so how do they threaten Cyprus?
3. Turkey does not need to buy advanced technology to keep little Cyprus in check.

Is Omirou just looking for publicity?

oratis

your’e right, the missiles are defensive, if so how did they threaten Turkey back in 1997 when ROC was going to have some?
it is double stsandards that Turkey and her allies didn’t want us to have them back in 1997 but nothing is said about Turkey having them.
one rule for one and one for the other then eh.

Paranam Kid

Like I said, the world relies on double standards, and a guy like Omirou knows that, so there is no point to bring it up knowing full well nothing will change. But he is probably after publicity, remember, 18th Feb is the election.

Dave The Impaler

It’s a good thing this missile system doesn’t work

oratis

what do you mean they don’t work?
do you think countries would spend millions on them if they didn’t work? also if they didn’t work the people making them would soon be out of business.

Dave The Impaler

actually yes countries do spend millions, even billions on military tech that doesn’t work. Libya, Syria and Iraq were Russians biggest clients. Even the T80 tanks that Cyprus purchased were described by one Russian General as the worst tank ever built. The s400 has issues with its guidance system. The turks should hold out for the vastly improved s500 or purchase the tried and tested s300. Anyway this is all academic, Cyprus doesn’t even have an air force

oratis

thanks for telling me, I didn’t know all that, we should be wary then of what we buy in future.
I agree with you that its academic since we don’t have an airforce .

oratis

I don’t know what his motives are but he is telling the truth, if the shoe was on the other foot and it was Turkey that was prevented from having S400 where we were allowed to have them, I’m sure quite a few Turkish politicians would scream double standards.

Paranam Kid

Turkey is dealing with slightly different issues on the global scene than Cyprus is.

lazarous

Is a lot better bring it up than saying nothing at all don’t you think. Unless you are one of those who keep quiet even if you know that the strongest is wrong.

Paranam Kid

Except when it is brought up for disingenuous reasons, which is more than likely the case here.

HighTide

The strongest is never wrong.

lazarous

Let me remind you, while you lying back thinking “I just threw the best words I could”..

Iraq and the fake WMD, I guess this one let them slip.
Vietnam, Libya is worse than ever, Garcia island, South Africa, Ireland (UK), India (UK), the whole west side of Africa and the seven sisters collaborators and many more. So in your coney head all the above was correct decisions. I mean the mighty British empire was never wrong. Get a grip.
The only thing I would agree on is when Mosri was taken down, even thought it was wrong taking down the first democratically elected president in Egypt’s history. That’s not very nice for the democracy we are trying to impose on other countries. But hey that was Turkey’s allie the Muslim brotherhood so for the survivor of the Jews anything is possible.

HighTide

You did not get it. In realpolitik, the strongest is never wrong, even if he is.

lazarous

Ok my bad!

Toni

This is called commerce .you have to learn..politics equals to Buisness..now south Cyprus can only do what EU says .if other countries decide what you could do or dont then where is democracy….

Toni

Well said…..

ROC

That makes you feel big and patriotic does it?

HighTide

Troll.

ROC

Need to zipp it sometimes your only a Ultra Nationalist follower

HighTide

“your only a Ultra Nationalist” – yourself?

ROC

Least I do not pretend to love my fellow compatriots then stab them in the back like you do as expendable to the greater Turkey , True Turkish Cypriots must despised your kind of folk

HighTide

Despise you? What else?

ROC

Stick to the rant will you

HighTide

Despise you? Yes.

Toni

No lm not big .a little patriotic maybe..your haterage against Turkey is quite clear..which makes you patristic and uneducated prat..so be nice little. Don’t forget pre 60s and Earley 70 .that greek cypriots had double standards against TC..even got greedy and try to take and unite the island with greece. Peace been in the island since 1974 and that’s a good reason for me to be a little patriotic.

ROC

You took the words right of my mouth in your Number 1 rant, Turkey is a double standards country,they sell themselves to the highest bidder, I wont tell you what other form of business sells sells themselves but I but you got a pretty good guess.

HighTide

“business sells sells themselves”
What is this supposed to mean?

ROC

Aways thought you knew, that a lady of the night and Turkey have a lot in conman.

HighTide

A lot lot in “conman” ? You?

Γιώργος Γκίλσον

If I got it right the S400s as the S300s that Clerides once boaught have enormously powerful radars that offer a major military advantage in the air.

mustafa balci

That’s why need peace in cyprus and between turkey and greece in the egean. who benefits from arms sale to these countries Russia and western countries especially usa sell arms to both countries that money can be spent much better developing these countries

SuzieQ

“There must be no double standards”—- I’ve just finished reading the article about Mr. Phedonas exposing the property acquisitions by various ineligible crooks….

oratis

stick to the subject of the article, this article is about double standards involving defence.

HighTide

To be fair, oratis – more than half of all posts are not sticking to the subject. Your compatriots love to deviate to Turkey and the Kurds when the issue is Cyprus, in this case including the property scam.

oratis

true some GC’s don’t stick to the subject on other threads and are propmptly told off by others, therefore others should be told off if they do the same, same standards.

HighTide

But your compatriots and everyone else is not “told off”,
yours is quite unique.

oratis

I don’t know what you mean, but I’ve seen lots of my compatriots been told to stick to the subject, maybe I’ve even said that myself to them in the past I really can’t remember, also maybe I’ve wandered of the subject on other threads in the past, a lot of people do it to a certain degree.
anyway we are getting carried away about some observation I made to Suzie Q ,and getting off the subject, I didn’t realise you cared about her so much.

HighTide

I don’t know her, but to pick out this comment is rather extravagant.

Mist

Didn’t Vladimir get our billet-doux?

Veritas

This must be disturbing news for all Russian disciples in Cyprus, who can’t realize that RoC is used by Russia (and in the past USSR), as a tool for their own agenda.

ROC

This is a case of the Russians playing NATO and the USA, and Turkey playing a dangerous game with NATO and the USA, Am sure their is more to this than meets the eye.

hh faris

ROC the question you should be asking IS why isn’t US/NATO providing the weapons Turkey needs!……… But you know the answer.

ROC

These weapons were bought for a political objective, it could be a way of Turkey making up with Russian of the shooting down of the Russian jet as a form of compensation, they have no advantage to aim them at Greece or Cyprus as they have weapons for those objectives so they only other reason would be to target them at Iran and Syria.

The political advantage to buy them from Russian would that if they were used on the Countries I mentioned, then Nato and USA can stand back and say when never supplied them

Plus if the above is wrong, then it only proves that Turkey loves to play two sides and that won’t please Mr Trump

hh faris

ROC, “These weapons were bought for a political objective, it could be a way of Turkey making up with Russian of the shooting down of the Russian jet as a form of compensation”….. You really are an idiot!!! Do you think IF for one moment Russians are so stupid they would not only provide the s400 but the rights for Turkey to build the s400??? If they did not know the shooting down of the Russian plane and the assignation of Russian ambassador to Turkey was the work of US/Pentagon there is only one other country that has managed to purchase the s400 and that is China, so stop your stupid remarks for once and TRY to see the big picture American plans for the middle east and Turkey.

ROC

Your talk as if your stuck in a can going around in circles

“big picture American plans for the middle east and Turkey.” YEAH SO WHY IS NATO ALLOWING THEM TO BUY FROM THE ENEMY ???????????

“shooting down of the Russian plane and the assignation of Russian ambassador to Turkey was the work of US/Pentagon”
THE ABOVE STATEMENT

BS YOU BEEN WATCHING TOO MUCH 24hrs

None of what you said makes sense its BS that you only you believe in , as I have no proof either.

HighTide

NATO has no decision power on arms purchases of its members. Turkey is much too important for NATO to expect more than a few hick-ups.

disqus_8q00vR7rLQ

Plenty of hicks in Turkey, and here, you are a prime example.

hh faris

ROC; How can NATO stop an INDEPENDENT country buying the weapons of her choice??? S400 will not be integrated with the NATO weapons system!!! “Shooting down of the Russian plane and the assignation of Russian ambassador to Turkey was the work of US/Pentagon” all the evidence gathered by Turkey points to Gullen, Gullen is US, believe what you want to believe this is my opinion, if you want to believe Russians are so naive that they would sale this advance weapon to an enemy and teach them how to build it them self? How naive you are.

disqus_8q00vR7rLQ

they stopped Cyprus buying one

hh faris

disqus_8q00vR7rLQ, Learn to read, I wrote INDEPENDENT country, we the Turkish Cypriots are co-owners of Cyprus, we did not want you to have the S300, so you did not get to keep them.

disqus_8q00vR7rLQ

Since when?

hh faris

disqus_8q00vR7rLQ, I would guess right about when your grandma gave birth to your father. Lol

disqus_8q00vR7rLQ

As usual you are full of sh!t.

Eric

“all the evidence gathered by Turkey points to Gullen”
buls-hit. If you had followed the developement of the Turkish-Russian row
about the downed airplane, then you certainly noticed there was many versions
around perhaps 3 or 4, none were convincing enough. (the first version was
Davutoglu who had gived the orders to down it, he even said it himself)
Gulen version was the last one the turkish governement was fine with, and it happened strangely after the coup.
And more surprisingly this last version convinced everyone from Turkey and Russia.

Louis

Russia must be stupid!!
Turkey is a member of NATO
So the likelihood is, that these s400s would be used against…..RUSSIA!

Barry White

There is confusion and concern down in the AKEL canteens over this Russian missiles for the Terrible Turk caper.

Fortunately, once the Chocolate Soldier Ambassador works out the right message for the sheep, the party faithful will be calmed.

A bit of a bump in the election messaging that’s all.

HighTide

Do you understand the NATO charter? Only if Russia attacks a NATO member state will it be the duty of other members to assist. What NATO state do you have in mind that is to expect such an attack by Putin?

oratis

it wouldn’t have made a difference because Turkey would have bought similar ones from the U.S. so it was wiser for Russia to just accept the money.

disqus_8q00vR7rLQ

The stupid Turks don’t realise the the S400 has a “kill” switch, that can be operated remotely.

HighTide

To compare the needs of a major military power such as Turkey with those of a tiny irrelevant half island is a joke. Better get new equipment for the Larnaca Fire Brigade.

ROC

Turkey will be its own downfall it need no pushing as it’s pushing itself, and if you get hot under the collar when it happens come to Larnaca and I hose you down with fire brigades hoses.

HighTide

Start saving for your new hoses. The pressure is gone.

hh faris

HighTide That was funny!!! Lol.

Douglas

Readings many of the comments in here I’m beginning to wonder if the locals like any of other Nationalities living in Cyprus ?

ROC

why would you say that?

Douglas

I formed the opinion by reading the forum comments ?

schrodinger’s cat

S400 aren’t a threat to cyprus, we don’t have any long range missiles or fighters

ROC

Spot on, there is an underhand political deal going on here.Russian are not stupid to sell these to a member of Nato ,knowingly they could be used against them, its a ploy of some sort we not aware about.

oratis

I reckon its more about the money, S400 are expensive and Russia will make a handsome profit out of them, if they refused to sell them to Turkey , Turkey would have just bought something similar from a U.S., company.

oratis

true

Parthenon

Cyprus should immediately severe all diplomatic and economic relations with the evil Russians.
All Russians citizens living in the RoC should be rounded up and expelled with immediate effect.
The Russians always have been and always will be the traitors of orthodox Christianity. They are souless heathens.
Greece should also seize all Russian monasteries in Mt Athos and give them to Ukraine.

HighTide

By now, you are known for your lunatic comments. This one is at the height of them. If you are serious, you should look for help, presto!

Parthenon

Nothing is more lunatic than thinking that your illegal criminal entity will ever be recognised. Not even Azerbaijan will recognise you.

HighTide

Not a good response to your loonie proposal, just deviating.

disqus_8q00vR7rLQ

troll..

mustafa balci

You forget mention to put greek army on alarm my friend you need your head examined

hh faris

mustafa balci, Mustafa, Head examination would show he is beyond help.

TC Alkan Volkan

The S400 that Turkey is buying from Russia will never be a threat to Southern Cyprus. If Greek Cypriots one day misbehave Turkey has got so much military power so there is no need for using the S400s

schrodinger’s cat

turkey has so much military power they had to wait for a US backed coup to remove all the weapons from cyprus before they invaded. I’d f*ck them all

HighTide

And 9/11 was self inflicted by the US government too! LOL!

ROC

What you do not know you should butt out of making statements.

HighTide

Suggest you adhere to this.

Neroli

That’s a conspiracy theory!! ???

Roger Thecabinboy

read “Dismantling the Cyprus Conspiracy: The US role in the Cypriot Crises of 1963, 1967, and 1974” by Caroline Wenzke and Dan Lindley, which challenges the myths you have just promoted.

ROC

” If Greek Cypriots one day misbehave ” This shows how much of a backward idiot you are and your mentality as a Turk,

HighTide

Done it before, may do it again.

ROC

As it stands, the implosion of Turkey is all I am waiting for, the signs have come and they wont go way. Gullen is marching to Turkey very soon.

hh faris

ROC, The “implosion” of Turkey and the world will happen one day, not, the aliens are waiting, … but please don’t hold your breath it will not happen in our lifetime, US/CIA/Gullen is “marching” in 170 countries, f#%k your luck if your country is one of the 170 and that is a no bull shit.

ROC

You as Turk I know how much it hurts you to believe your Country is in the Mire

Hated By EU
Had two Fingers stuck up by the USA, refusing to extradite Gullen
Had the Coup
Hated by all its neighbors and now further afield
A dictor runing your country LOL

BTW: I taken offence of the profanities you have written, because you might just get a ban

hh faris

ROC why thank you for calling me A Turk, but I am a Turkish Cypriot you s#/t for brains and don’t ever forget that but I am very proud of Turkey and her might, so please stop your copy and paste propaganda 24/7 we all understand by now your hatred against Turks and Turkey please, please take a break!!!! Stop repeating same s#/t.

Eric

Turks, turkish cypriot, it is the same sh-it, a turk stay a turk.

Roger Thecabinboy

There is a school of thought says the Coup is an inside Job by Erdo to cement his grip. I am not holding my breath for the collapse of Turkey, to the extent N Cyprus will be abandoned.

HighTide

Only behind you and your slingshot.

ROC

Is Turkey in good standing in the World??????
Is the North of Cyprus in good standing in the World????

Thank god all I can say to the above is NO ,NO, NO.

HighTide

What do you about the “world”? You would not find your home in London without GPS.

disqus_8q00vR7rLQ

troll.

Roger Thecabinboy

correct – ’63 and ’74…

Neroli

??? when will Cyprus realise Russia has never been a friend !

Vladimir

How come, we can’t let them befriend us, miserable nation, always lurking around and pretending our friends, especially when licking our asses to get a few euros for a humiliation… pathetic!

Parthenon

We do now. Scum.

Naci Rizaoglu

Do not get excited. It is just a business..

Parthenon

Betrayal is betrayal.

Neroli

A bit late, you still owe them a few € billion to bailout the country!

disqus_8q00vR7rLQ

…just like the Brits.

Neroli

I love your jokes Arty!

SuzieQ

I didn’t realise it was Farty!

Neroli

You can tell by his stupid comments!

HighTide

It’s either Wlop Hop or Arty, but makes no difference, same rubbish.

hh faris

HighTide, Both are junior members of ELAM.

disqus_8q00vR7rLQ

You are a hypocrite. What’s the difference between Russia selling arms to the Turks, and the Brits selling arms to the Turks?

Neroli

I didn’t say there was a difference!! Everyone sells arms to each other, Germany sells arms to Turkey I think Greece does too, Russia sells them to Cyprus

disqus_8q00vR7rLQ

So why did you make that specific comment, you just like having a little dig at Greeks. The brits should be more concerned about the S400 than Cyprus,

ROC

And you think Russian is a friend of Turkey, hahahahhahah Turkey has no friends

Vladimir

Turks are our neighbor and we stay shoulder-to-shoulder. Buying S400 is a smart move. In Russia, we nicknamed it ‘clear sky’ for its ability to take down anything that flies, literally anything: all types of rockets, satellites, planes, even birds if you want. It can also be used for attacking and it is so powerful that a single rocket would suffice to ruin this island.
Please let us know in advance if you decide to… I will take a vacation and go to Moscow to watch the news)

Eric

Yep Russia siding with islamists, how low they have fallen, it’s impressive.
At this rate, it wil be a matter of time before Russia turn Islamic too.

hh faris

Eric do you really believe Russians are that stupid/ignorant to the facts what the American/pentagons plans/intentions are??? Or that they would sale the S-400 PLUS the technical now how for Turkey to build them herself IF they did not have the information that it was US/NATO/GULEN who shot down the Russian plane and assisted the Russian ambassador in Turkey??? You people must be very blind to what is happening in the world or your hatred towards Turkey is so strong you refuse to see it, there is an ongoing asymmetric war which will eventually even destroy EU if US/Pentagon is successful!!!

disqus_8q00vR7rLQ

Why would anyone hate turkey?

hh faris

disqus_8q00vR7rLQ, Ask your priest!!! I am certain he will give you the answer you want.

disqus_8q00vR7rLQ

I’m asking you, nothing to do with priests.

HighTide

Since your are one of the haters, Wlop Hop, you should know best.

disqus_8q00vR7rLQ

Keep your snout out of my posts.

HighTide

Wlop Hop, don’t start dreaming too, hating suits you well.

Eric

“IF they did not have the information that it was US/NATO/GULEN who shot down the Russian plane”.
I followed the developement of the Turkish-russian row over the downed airplane, there were 3-4 versions from the beginning, none of which were convincing. the first version was Davutoglu who ordered to shoot the plane, he mentionned it himself) the last version was the Gulen-US conspiracy, this version was released by turkish governement and it came, surprinsgly, just after the coup in Turkey.
Turkish people and russian people all swallowed this version, and were fine with.
I suggest you read back some old articles about the row, you will see how the old versions differ from the version you have now. Anyway, if you buy this nonsense,
that’s fine, but in my case I don’t.

Vladimir

Your problem is that you view everything through the prism of religion. While nobody would deny its importance, we must not forget that this is very private choice of each of us and shouldn’t be used as the tool to separate people.
People living in Russia (note I say people and not Russians) have very important human quality – tolerance. Tolerance lets people live together in peace. We have Muslims, Orthodox, Catholics, Buddhists, Jews, atheists, and many other kinds of religions, and we have never had any problems because Religion is a private choice and you shouldn’t use it to separate people.

David Wilson

Why are Russians killing innocent people in Ukraine and Syria – tolerance?

Vladimir

You don’t lose the hope to bring military conflict to Russian borders, that’s why we have to defend ourselves. It’s like cause and effect situation: you are cause, we are effect. Don’t touch us and don’t try to teach us how to live. Then everyone will be well.

hh faris

Vladimir Well said !!!

Neroli

Can it be used to attack illegal bird hunters? ?

costaskarseras

Cypriots should not see the S400 as a threat against Cyprus as Turkey remains a NATO member, the “protector” of human rights. We can always count on our “reliable guarantor” Britain for protection. She did so in 1974 which resulted in the NATO-Turkish invasion when 200 000 Cypriots were expelled from their land and the town of Varosha, with her permission, has been allowed to become a ghost town. These are no mean achievements.

These arms will not provide security for the Turkish people but they will be called to pay for them at a time when the economy is not in a good shape. In addition, Erdogan instead of stopping the hemorrhage caused by the Kurdish conflict has driven the country to new bloody adventures in Syria.

Sonar

Same old regurgitated bile , say some thing constructive so WE on this island live in peace and security, just thank NATO for providing an environment so you can have free speech so keep your bile flowing, its you right ,you are welcome from an ex service man

peemdubya

Costas, I don’t think it is a case of “a threat”, it is more like “why did we have to get rid of the S300s to defend ourselves when they can have something better and they are the aggressor???”. As for Turkey being a NATO member, what does NATO rule they must do? Diddly-squat, I presume, as North Cyprus is still occupied.

HighTide

NATO has nothing to do with political matters of nations, particularly not with a non-member like Cyprus. It is a defense alliance and nothing more.

Neroli

As you live in UK you certainly have the protection of Britain ??

ROC

Your ego and fascination of how you admire the military might of Turkey reminds me of how people like you buy big cars to make up for their small parts

Neroli

Who said I admire the military might of Turkey?? You have a strange imagination, along with your conspiracy theories, you along with Costas The Red in London

HighTide

You must own a stretch limousine.

Roger Thecabinboy

I just look at all the big cars driven here in Cyprus by Cypriots…badly, too.!

HighTide

…and Moscow !

Neroli

I forgot that!

Roger Thecabinboy

You may wish to read the following dissertations: “Dismantling the Cyprus Conspiracy: The US role in the Cypriot Crises of 1963, 1967, and 1974” by Caroline Wenzke and Dan Lindley and “British Non-Intervention in the Cyprus Crisis of 1974” by Stephen Woodward, both which very clearly set an alternative opinion to that which you (and others spout) spout about the involvement of the USA and the non intervention of Britain, contradicting the commonly held views that the USA was behind the coup, and about the obligations of Britain to intervene when the situation directly involved the other two guarantor powers both acting in breach of the treaties.

There was no legal obligation on Britain to take military action – the only obligation under the treaty of guarantee was to consult with the other guarantor powers, which she did.

That is against the background that 11 years before the Cyprus Government had already contended that the Treaty of Guarantee was invalid as being inconsistent with the independence and sovereignty of the Republic of Cyprus and that, at least to the extent that it envisaged forcible intervention in Cypriot affairs without the consent of the Cyprus Government, was contrary to Article 2.4 of the UN Charter and the treaty was therefore overridden by Article 103 of the UN Charter.

costaskarseras

Thank you for you comment which I found very interesting but not surpriced. I don’t think anyone would believe that the Greek junta would had dared to act alone and carry out the coup against the wishes of the US. The Greek junta was the CIA’s baby and suported by them and compelled President Clinton, when visiting Greece, to appologise for supporting it. Also Turkey would not have carried out the invasion without the US and Britain’s agreement.

Concerning Britain’s responsibilities they are typical double-crossing colonial obligations without any value. One of the guarantors, Turkey has the right to intervene and the the other guarantor, Britain pretending to be an innocent bystander watching an ethnic cleansing and a war crime taking place. Of course, the military bases remain British.

Roger Thecabinboy

You are entitled to think what you think but I think you are wrong: State department papers indicate that the USA sent a number of messages advising against the coup. For what ever reason (and there are several) they were ignored. The USA gave up on the Junta once Ioannades was in charge: that was because he was a loose canon, involved in events like the brutal suppression of the protests at the Athens Polytechnic.

By many accounts Britain wanted to intervene but needed US support which they did not get. In the background of the Cold war the USA did NOT want to risk a break with Turkey, that such intervention would likely have caused.

I otherwise suggest you read the articles and then the treaty of guarantee: there is however nothing that obliged Britain to military intervene, and you forget that in 63 or so Big Mak had effectively stated Britain had no right to intervene. Blame the Greek Junta and the Cypriot traitors for the invasion.

Sonar

Come on you cypriot hero’s turn on Russia like you turned on the UN are you all hiding in your bunkers counting your brown envelops

You’re just a slave of our money – will do everything we want. I look down on you:)

Barry White

Spinners !!!!! Very soon it’s Billy NO Mates. Not even a very principled one.

You really can’t make it up.

almostbroke

But Barry – Russia is our ‘friend ‘ and cannot do anything wrong ‘ ! , when will the ‘pygmies ‘ get the message , the ‘big boys ‘ are at work , ‘business is business ‘ , especially when it comes to arms sales . No one better than the Cypriots should know , arms sales is a lucrative ‘brown envelope ‘ enterprise !!

Barry White

But… But…. But…. almostbroke.

Brown envelopes for others and above all for Turks is bad.. bad..bad. Brown envelopes for me is good…good…good.

Russian Missiles are the least of the problem. There are the Russian nucleur reactors being built in Turkey just across from Cyprus, hello Chernobyl! And then there is the pipelayer in the Black Sea steaming from Russia to Turkey to bring billions to Turkey and as a warm up for the Israel to Turkey gas pipeline.

It’s enough to make the pseudo Elite to miss a meal.

disqus_8q00vR7rLQ

Barry White is an expert on brown envelopes, as he is from the most corrupt country in the world, Great Britain.

Barry White

Another silly sausage is heard from. Knows nothing, all his ‘facts’ are wrong, and makes it up as he goes along. Just like the Cyprob myths he keeps repeating.

But brown seems to be his favourite colour in times of peace and in war.

Time to change your knickers, disqus_8q00vR7rLQ. You are getting a bit whiffy and it is best to stand upwind from you.

peemdubya

It’s most probably one of the previous idiots afraid to make themselves known.

Neroli

Don’t worry we all know who it is, it’s Arty!!

disqus_8q00vR7rLQ

Oh dear, still pining for those title deeds?

SuzieQ

Hilarious! You’ve cheered me up–keep it coming!

Sonar

I thinking you hit a raw nerve Barry good man

disqus_8q00vR7rLQ

Barry not a good man, he has no title deeds, therefore he hates anyone or anything Greek.

David Wilson

Barry is Greek. Look at his name!

disqus_8q00vR7rLQ

David Wilson wants his name back.

David Wilson

Arty I dont hide behind a silly fake id like you

Barry White

My goodness, and Barry is a good man, you got it all wrong once again, disqusLQ. When are you going to get anything right?

disqus_8q00vR7rLQ

The day you get your title deeds.

Barry White

I got mine, 10’s of thousands haven’t. What is needed is a Title Guarantor. Works in other countries but will have to be a foreign entity as it is the only way a Guarantor works here.

almostbroke

‘Greek ‘ ???????

Roger Thecabinboy

Greek or Cypriot? This is Cyprus not Greece!

disqus_8q00vR7rLQ

Stop trolling me with you ridiculous comments.

Roger Thecabinboy

I have stated a fact. The fact that this fact does not conform to your (imo distorted) world view of the place of Cyprus in the world does not make it Trollish. Rather I think the way you readily label those who promote alternative views to yours is I think a form of transference, being a bit Trollish itself. Ie pots and kettles…

Cypriots?? Don’t you mean the brits?
This anti missile system isn’t being bought, because of the Cyprus airforce, as we dont have one, it’s being bought because of the RAF.

almostbroke

Cypriots ! There is a cadre of people perpetuating ‘the enemy at the gate ‘in Cyprus ! A ‘few ‘ have made a lucrative living particularly in the ‘arms business ‘ where the ‘rewards ‘ are great provided ‘palms are greased ‘ are you familiar with an ‘end users certificate ‘ ?

Sonar

Realy? Nice try, below the surface NATO forces work together, take it from someone that knows

disqus_8q00vR7rLQ

So NATO don’t mind the Turks buying from their number one enemy?

Vladimir

This ‘demarche’ which you should issue to Russia, as per article above, please issue it and put it into your mom’s anus. That’s how much we care about your opinion or opinion of your f*cking NATO.

Barry White

On behalf of the Russian people, Vladimir, Be Afraid, very Afraid of the incoming ‘demarche’ from Nicosia.

David Wilson

Yeah they want to work out why some nations are flogging old clapped out analogue weapons

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