“Okay, he needs to name his next album Seven and like lighten up on the kids situation,” Pippen cracks. “Seven kids is crazy!”

“That’s crazy. I could never, especially in like the world we live in,” says Kardashian, admitting that the onslaught of recent school shootings made her wary of bringing more lives into the world.

“I’ve been kind of hesitant about having more kids just because it literally keeps me up at night, thinking about how my kids will survive in a crazy world like this,” she says.

“I hear you. And people have been trying to kidnap, rob, take you, so that plays into all that,” Pippen says, referencing her friend’s harrowing experience being robbed at gunpoint in Paris in October 2016.