I Guys, another question for you. A model with an ability like hardened will, or another skill (or subfaction ability, or other tactis) wich negate fear/horror test, must do a fear test against Obsidian nightmare?
Otherwise, is the Abissal Shade ability similar to Dreaded ability of Einherjer (so would not work against models with rules which negate Fear/Horror tests)?

Both of them have "normally not required" in the ability's description, but some players tell me that obsidian cause fear to all, even to models with hardened will, non living or similar... So, if a unit of einherjer fight against an Obsidian Knightmare, who causes fear?

(06-01-2014 03:48 PM)Jakail Wrote: I Guys, another question for you. A model with an ability like hardened will, or another skill (or subfaction ability, or other tactis) wich negate fear/horror test, must do a fear test against Obsidian nightmare?YES
Otherwise, is the Abissal Shade ability similar to Dreaded ability of Einherjer (so would not work against models with rules which negate Fear/Horror tests)?

Both of them have "normally not required" in the ability's description, but some players tell me that obsidian cause fear to all, even to models with hardened will, non living or similar... So, if a unit of einherjer fight against an Obsidian Knightmare, who causes fear?The Obsidian Nighmare would cause Fear on Einherjer, and this would NOT be negated by their Hardened Will.

The Einherjer would cause Horror on the Obsidian Nightmare because he causes Fear but this would be negated by his Hardened Will.

There will be an official errata soon about Dreaded, but for the moment, play it like this.