But conservative news outlets and Republicans are screaming this is social engineering. Here's one reply to the Republican complaints:

“The most profound form of social engineering was the creation and maintenance of segregated suburbs,” says Craig Gurian, a civil rights lawyer and the executive director of the Anti-Discrimination Center. “That is social engineering.”

If I had my way, metropolitan government or city-county government like Indianapolis and Jacksonville would be the nationwide norm. Urban growth boundaries would also be a nationwide norm. Political fragmentation is very unhealthy for urban regions and for state governments.

Art_Deco saidBut conservative news outlets and Republicans are screaming this is social engineering. Here's one reply to the Republican complaints:

“The most profound form of social engineering was the creation and maintenance of segregated suburbs,” says Craig Gurian, a civil rights lawyer and the executive director of the Anti-Discrimination Center. “That is social engineering.”

Amen

Consider the sources, two left wingers, one of whom makes his living as one, though at least he got his tense right. And if you want to see what that "beautiful melting pot" looks like, spend a few hours in Detroit, Newark, Chicago, or any other product of Democrat social programs, engineered or happenstance.

Art_Deco saidBut conservative news outlets and Republicans are screaming this is social engineering. Here's one reply to the Republican complaints:

“The most profound form of social engineering was the creation and maintenance of segregated suburbs,” says Craig Gurian, a civil rights lawyer and the executive director of the Anti-Discrimination Center. “That is social engineering.”

Amen

Consider the sources, two left wingers, one of whom makes his living as one, though at least he got his tense right. And if you want to see what that "beautiful melting pot" looks like, spend a few hours in Detroit, Newark, Chicago, or any other product of Democrat social programs, engineered or happenstance.

Sometimes I pity you, because people find you noxious and abrasive, even though you try so hard to get attention. But maybe you deserve it for your extreme antisocial, racist views. Sorry, not sorry to say that your white only world isn't going to exist in the USA. You'll have to move to the north pole now. Bye-bye.

Art_Deco saidBut conservative news outlets and Republicans are screaming this is social engineering. Here's one reply to the Republican complaints:

“The most profound form of social engineering was the creation and maintenance of segregated suburbs,” says Craig Gurian, a civil rights lawyer and the executive director of the Anti-Discrimination Center. “That is social engineering.”

Amen

Consider the sources, two left wingers, one of whom makes his living as one, though at least he got his tense right. And if you want to see what that "beautiful melting pot" looks like, spend a few hours in Detroit, Newark, Chicago, or any other product of Democrat social programs, engineered or happenstance.

Sometimes I pity you, because people find you noxious and abrasive, even though you try so hard to get attention. But maybe you deserve it for your extreme antisocial, racist views. Sorry, not sorry to say that your white only world isn't going to exist in the USA. You'll have to move to the north pole now. Bye-bye.

Yes, you're so right. I probably shouldn't be allowed to walk the face of the earth. But until my "rapture," I'm here, queer, and not going to move to the rear.

Art_Deco saidBut conservative news outlets and Republicans are screaming this is social engineering. Here's one reply to the Republican complaints:

“The most profound form of social engineering was the creation and maintenance of segregated suburbs,” says Craig Gurian, a civil rights lawyer and the executive director of the Anti-Discrimination Center. “That is social engineering.”

Amen

Consider the sources, two left wingers, one of whom makes his living as one, though at least he got his tense right. And if you want to see what that "beautiful melting pot" looks like, spend a few hours in Detroit, Newark, Chicago, or any other product of Democrat social programs, engineered or happenstance.

Sometimes I pity you, because people find you noxious and abrasive, even though you try so hard to get attention. But maybe you deserve it for your extreme antisocial, racist views. Sorry, not sorry to say that your white only world isn't going to exist in the USA. You'll have to move to the north pole now. Bye-bye.

Yes, you're so right. I probably shouldn't be allowed to walk the face of the earth. But until my "rapture," I'm here, queer, and not going to move to the rear.

But you will support the homophobic party that panders to a religious ideology obsessed with shaming gay people into committing suicide?

I'm not pushing you to the rear. You're voting to have all of us pushed to the rear, and then right off the back of the bus.

HUD going to build a housing project next door to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave? Section 8 housing on Park Avenue? I bet the head of HUD lives nowhere near a place like Ferguson, MO. All these high level govt. bureaucrats need to put their money where their mouths are. Does anyone look at the racial makeup of our congressmen's neighborhoods where they live? Federal judges? Their kids don't go to substandard public schools. They go to private schools. Their kids aren't integrated with the likes of the fine upstanding citizens of Ferguson, MO or Baltimore.

UndercoverMan saidHUD going to build a housing project next door to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave? Section 8 housing on Park Avenue? I bet the head of HUD lives nowhere near a place like Ferguson, MO. All these high level govt. bureaucrats need to put their money where their mouths are. Does anyone look at the racial makeup of our congressmen's neighborhoods where they live? Federal judges? Their kids don't go to substandard public schools. They go to private schools. Their kids aren't integrated with the likes of the fine upstanding citizens of Ferguson, MO or Baltimore.

Ostensibly they want people to rise out of poverty and to improve schools. But you're right, where the rubber meets the road they're disturbingly like those who advocate fracking... In someone else's backyard.

I think if the country is going to desegregate once and for all, it has to happen because of a cultural revolution in the middle class.

Perhaps a redistribution of wealth is in order? Maybe give new meaning to trickle down economics??

UndercoverMan saidHUD going to build a housing project next door to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave? Section 8 housing on Park Avenue? I bet the head of HUD lives nowhere near a place like Ferguson, MO. All these high level govt. bureaucrats need to put their money where their mouths are. Does anyone look at the racial makeup of our congressmen's neighborhoods where they live? Federal judges? Their kids don't go to substandard public schools. They go to private schools. Their kids aren't integrated with the likes of the fine upstanding citizens of Ferguson, MO or Baltimore.

Ostensibly they want people to rise out of poverty and to improve schools. But you're right, where the rubber meets the road they're disturbingly like those who advocate fracking... In someone else's backyard.

I think if the country is going to desegregate once and for all, it has to happen because of a cultural revolution in the middle class.

Perhaps a redistribution of wealth is in order? Maybe give new meaning to trickle down economics??

A cultural revolution of the middle class?! They want to destroy the middle class. You don't raise the poor out of poverty by subsidizing their housing in middle class neighborhoods. I've seen first hand what happens to schools and neighborhoods in solid middle class neighborhoods when that happens.

UndercoverMan saidHUD going to build a housing project next door to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave? Section 8 housing on Park Avenue? I bet the head of HUD lives nowhere near a place like Ferguson, MO. All these high level govt. bureaucrats need to put their money where their mouths are. Does anyone look at the racial makeup of our congressmen's neighborhoods where they live? Federal judges? Their kids don't go to substandard public schools. They go to private schools. Their kids aren't integrated with the likes of the fine upstanding citizens of Ferguson, MO or Baltimore.

Ostensibly they want people to rise out of poverty and to improve schools. But you're right, where the rubber meets the road they're disturbingly like those who advocate fracking... In someone else's backyard.

I think if the country is going to desegregate once and for all, it has to happen because of a cultural revolution in the middle class.

Perhaps a redistribution of wealth is in order? Maybe give new meaning to trickle down economics??

A cultural revolution of the middle class?! They want to destroy the middle class. You don't raise the poor out of poverty by subsidizing their housing in middle class neighborhoods. I've seen first hand what happens to schools and neighborhoods in solid middle class neighborhoods when that happens.

The middle class that most white Americans grew up in was established through subsidized housing after WWII. What you're saying can't work is precisely what created the middle class, before the civil rights movement. Really the government just used to only look out for white people, and our segregated society is the result of that.

UndercoverMan saidHUD going to build a housing project next door to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave? Section 8 housing on Park Avenue? I bet the head of HUD lives nowhere near a place like Ferguson, MO. All these high level govt. bureaucrats need to put their money where their mouths are. Does anyone look at the racial makeup of our congressmen's neighborhoods where they live? Federal judges? Their kids don't go to substandard public schools. They go to private schools. Their kids aren't integrated with the likes of the fine upstanding citizens of Ferguson, MO or Baltimore.

Ostensibly they want people to rise out of poverty and to improve schools. But you're right, where the rubber meets the road they're disturbingly like those who advocate fracking... In someone else's backyard.

I think if the country is going to desegregate once and for all, it has to happen because of a cultural revolution in the middle class.

Perhaps a redistribution of wealth is in order? Maybe give new meaning to trickle down economics??

A cultural revolution of the middle class?! They want to destroy the middle class. You don't raise the poor out of poverty by subsidizing their housing in middle class neighborhoods. I've seen first hand what happens to schools and neighborhoods in solid middle class neighborhoods when that happens.

The middle class that most white Americans grew up in was established through subsidized housing after WWII. What you're saying can't work is precisely what created the middle class, before the civil rights movement. Really the government just used to only look out for white people, and our segregated society is the result of that.

"Used to?" Until when? I'd say around 1863, at the latest, over a century and a half ago, long before "subsidized housing," which has been part of our economic system since the first mortgage was written on some plot of land in the colonies.

UndercoverMan saidHUD going to build a housing project next door to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave? Section 8 housing on Park Avenue? I bet the head of HUD lives nowhere near a place like Ferguson, MO. All these high level govt. bureaucrats need to put their money where their mouths are. Does anyone look at the racial makeup of our congressmen's neighborhoods where they live? Federal judges? Their kids don't go to substandard public schools. They go to private schools. Their kids aren't integrated with the likes of the fine upstanding citizens of Ferguson, MO or Baltimore.

Ostensibly they want people to rise out of poverty and to improve schools. But you're right, where the rubber meets the road they're disturbingly like those who advocate fracking... In someone else's backyard.

I think if the country is going to desegregate once and for all, it has to happen because of a cultural revolution in the middle class.

Perhaps a redistribution of wealth is in order? Maybe give new meaning to trickle down economics??

A cultural revolution of the middle class?! They want to destroy the middle class. You don't raise the poor out of poverty by subsidizing their housing in middle class neighborhoods. I've seen first hand what happens to schools and neighborhoods in solid middle class neighborhoods when that happens.

The middle class that most white Americans grew up in was established through subsidized housing after WWII. What you're saying can't work is precisely what created the middle class, before the civil rights movement. Really the government just used to only look out for white people, and our segregated society is the result of that.

"Used to?" Until when? I'd say around 1863, at the latest, over a century and a half ago, long before "subsidized housing," which has been part of our economic system since the first mortgage was written on some plot of land in the colonies.