Wow. Clark is often floated as a Clinton-supporter-for-Obama's veep. (Bad idea; other topic.) For him to be saying it's Sebelius says a lot about how likely he feels the Obama-Clinton ticket, or Obama-Clintonite ticket, is.
Good on you, Wes.

I'm sorry, but an Obama/Hillary "Unity" ticket simply isn't going to happen in light of comments and events of the last two weeks. Hillary's RFK comments were extremely inartful, but god forbid something were to happen to a President Obama, you better believe that a Vice President Hillary would be suspected of being involved (think I'm wrong? Look how many 9/11 conspiracy theories popped up while the buildings were still on power). The racist comments of some of the Hillary protesters at the DNC meeting have yet to be repudiated by team Hillary as well. Frankly, there wouldn't be any modicum of trust on that ticket, and there's no guarantee that Bill wouldn't be a bull in a china shop. Hillary should get a cabinet position to get her health care bill put into place, but not the VP slot.

Tyrone - Lots of reasons. Because Sebelius has 24 years of elected experience to Hillary's 7. Because Sebelius never said "doesn't meet the threshold". Because Sebelius never said "as far as I know". Because Sebelius has never run a campaign into debt. Because Sebelius never voted for the Iraq War (and thus isn't still unapologetic about it).

Sibelius does indeed bring some interesting geographic strength. Not only is she the governor of a red state, her father was governor of swing-state Ohio, where she has deep roots. And her State of the Union response was pitch-perfect for Obama's vision of how to govern.
It's curious that many Hillary supporters would consider another female candidate "a slap in the face," but might be okay with a man as VP.

Sebelius blew her chance with her Democratic response to the State of the Union address. She was dull as dishwater. If Obama chooses a woman other than Hillary, I, for one, will view it as insulting tokenism. To make a nod to women with an incredibly weak second-bencher when Hillary Clinton has raised record amounts, received record numbers of votes, and prepared herself for leadership over 35 years would be the final straw for me. If not Hillary, then a well-known, experienced, credible white man.

Sebelius would be a horrible pick for multiple, glaring reasons. First, she has little national recognition among the vast majority of Dems (save the netroots). Furthermore, the national spotlight she received via the Democratic response to Bush's State of the Union was disasterous. People who actually lived in Kansas know Sebelius is where she is because of the rupture b/t the moderates and hardliners of the Kansas Republican Party.

Didn't clinton do a mockup once on with them as the Sopranos at the beginning at this campaign? Then they come out with "wouldn't it be ashame if something happened to obama?" If something did happen to him people would think she would be the first person to have him wacked.

Harley.....if McCain wins I hope your kids and grandkids get sent/stop-lossed to Iraq for 100 years to suffer their fate. You are an idiot and a disgrace to the DEM party. We don't need you. Get the hell out. You are probably a racist too.

It will be great to go from Clinton's campaign over to McCain. The McCain supporters have been incredibly nice during this primary. What a laugh and how clueless are the Obama people. They think putting a female on the ticket will win over Hillary's people. Ha ha ha - How utterly clueless.

Sebelius is only governor because she is a centrist Democrat. With wacko republicans across the state and neo-hippies in Lawrence, the state always phones in the governor choice with a centrist from either party. Most of Kansas doesn't care for her, and the rest of the Midwest barely notices her -- the only reason she has a semi-nation profile is because Obama has elevated her. Obama needs someone with national and foreign policy credentials if he wants to have a chance at winning in the Electoral College. Bill Richardson has held just about every job in govt and helps Obama win more votes in a semi-progressive Wesst. John Edwards is a good way to win back the racist Clinton supporters with a nice, white Southern man, but it's a matter of getting him to take the job. I'd love to see Biden as VP but I think he's let his mouth run a bit too loosely as of late -- might be a liability beyond the fact he's a New England liberal who the GOP can paint as another John Kerry.

She would be a great VP choice. Hugely competent, efficient, popular 2 term governor of a bright red state. She would be a great first female President. Hillary supporters, I know you wanted Clinton but Sebelius is a picture-perfect female leader who is post-feminist in the same way Obama is post-racial. She destroys without ever invoking her gender as a selling point.

For as much as Sebelius is a great choice, I couldn't help but notice this campaign season that Obama competed against 3 formidable candidates. Hillary, John McCain and Bill Clinton. And for those, like myself who didn't vote for Hillary for who she is, not what she is, I can't help be amazed by the strength of her campaign.... like the tactics or not.

Bill Clinton may have been a media nightmare for the campaign, but he drew crowds as large as Hillary did. He got her (and his) message in the faces of countless people. Obama was constantly putting out fires in three directions since February. Can you imagine the McCain campaign having to fight Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton, spread out over the map for the next 4 months with one talking national security, one talking economy and one talking say health care and each drawing huge crowds? I think the republicans heads will explode trying to keep up. Besides, with Hillary on the ticket, Obama/Clinton will certainly be the media darling story until the GE. Remember, it's all about winning. I don't think there is anyway Hillary or Bill campaign with the intensity of the Presidential spot unless she is on the ticket.

That said, Sebelius is still a great choice, but not the best tactical choice to beat McCain.

Bullsh!t Harley, Clinton with her "I win white voters and they're more important so I should be the nominee even though I'm losing" and Terry McAuliffe with his "Obama has a Latino problem" talk, and the worst of the all, Geraldine Ferraro with her "he's only winning because he's black (the same thing she said about Jesse Jackson, apparently she thinks blacks have some sort of special Presidential powers) and he's been "terribly sexist" are the biggest race baitors of them all. Hillary's whole argument on why she should be chosen as the nominee is based on race baiting. She openly courts bigoted voters and says that she should be chosen because she's their preferred candidate.

This would be a complete insult to Hillary supporters, and it will be taken as such. A female knock-off won't do. Only the real thing is acceptable. If Hillary were the nominee, she would be expected to pick Obama as VP. The same expectation should hold for Obama.

Posted by Hanna:
"It will be great to go from Clinton's campaign over to McCain. The McCain supporters have been incredibly nice during this primary. What a laugh and how clueless are the Obama people. They think putting a female on the ticket will win over Hillary's people. Ha ha ha - How utterly clueless."
"Ha ha ha", this is a game for you? That is just so very sad.
Let me ask you a question Hanna: There are good men and women working in politics, and if they (the obama campaign) pick a woman because they really thinks she's the best for the job, you would see it as some sort of pandering to the women clinton supporters?
Isn't that very sexist of you? He is now disqualified to pick a woman?

Personally, my pick for VP is Wes Clark himself. He gives a very cogent speech about how this administration, and by extension McCain, have no strategy at all in the Middle East or anywhere else. He would also lend a certain national defense gravitas to the ticket which would be very effective against McCain's bloviating.
To the commenter who said if Obama is the nominee one less Democratic vote (meaning the commenter?)... Obama and Clinton are about 3% at most apart on issues, while McCain is about 70%, and increasingly ditching his "maverick" stances in favor of Bush redux. The only basis to switch from Clinton to McCain is... let's call it what it is... racism.

Reasons for Hillary Clinton Supporters to Vote for McCain
1) Health Care
The McCain Health Care Plan provides a $2500 tax credit for singles and a $5000 tax credit for families. It also removes tax incentives for businesses to provide medical insurance.
If you believe that telling people to ?go get your own insurance? is a better plan than Obama?s plan, you should vote for McCain. If you believe that a family, with or without preexisting medical conditions, can get quality health care insurance for $5000 a year, you should vote for McCain. If you believe that a family, that does not have a tax bill of $5000 to be credited, can get quality medical insurance for even less than $5000, you should vote for McCain.
2) Social Security
The McCain Social Security plan is basically a rehash of Bush?s Privatization, while denying that it is privatization. It calls for ?younger? workers to pay less Social Security and Medicare taxes and to put that into ?Private Accounts?.
If you believe that telling people to ?go get your own retirement? is a better plan, you should vote for McCain. If you believe that the American workers would be better off if Bush?s plan had been implemented six years ago, you should vote for McCain.
3) War
The McCain plan for Iraq is continuing war. The McCain plan for Iran is ?bomb, bomb, bomb??. The McCain plan is to continuing killing Iraqis and having our military continue dying until we achieve (an undefined) win.
If you believe that war is peace, you should vote for McCain.
If you believe that ?the only good ******* is a dead *******?, you should vote for McCain.
If you believe that war should be the first option, rather than diplomacy, you should vote for McCain.
War has been credited in the past with bringing the U.S. economy out of recessions and depressions. If you believe this could happen again, you should vote for McCain.
4) The Economy
McCain?s plan for the economy is basically Bush tax cuts for the wealthy on steroids.
If you believe that the problem with our economy is that the rich do not have enough money, you should vote for McCain.
5) Women?s Reproductive Rights
McCain has proclaimed that his ideas of quality nominees to the Supreme Court are Scalia, Alito, and Roberts.
If you believe that men should decide on what medical care options are available for women, you should vote for McCain.
If you want to see Griswold vs. Connecticut (the real goal of the hardcore Right-To-Lifers) overturned, you should vote for McCain.

You can tell so much about a nominee by the behavior of their surrogates & supporters (Saturday was just so emabarrassing) - the switch from voting for Democrates to Republican's if Clinton's don't win is just a sign of how emotionally retarded and completely irrational these "voters" are - good ridance!
Let's hope common sense & dignity prevails and we get Bush 3rd
out!!!

You can tell so much about a nominee by the behavior of their surrogates & supporters (Saturday was just so emabarrassing) - the switch from voting for Democrates to Republican's if Clinton's don't win is just a sign of how emotionally retarded and completely irrational these "voters" are - good ridance!
Let's hope common sense & dignity prevails and we get Bush 3rd
out!!!

this is to peter in kansas how could anybody even think of app a liar,a panderer and someone with the public think s is so untruthful to the supreme court would never happen she would never be approved

Did someone say Bill Richardson? Quick, name one of the many positions he held for the Clintons. Times up. Give him a cabinet position, but VP no. And to those who ask why a woman if not Hillary, did you not witness the 100% negative and racist campaign she ran? She did it to herself. You don't reward a child for being nasty and beligerent. Her beahavior, lies, selfishness, and inability to control herself during periods of stress have set the women's movement back at least 8 years (or 2 presidential cycles) at a minimum.

Obama did not go this far - not to win the GE. Because of the possibility that McCain could select a women as VP - the only choice that Obama has is to select HRC (like it or not)
The idea is to win!!!!

Harley...Let me guess...West Virginia???
Look Obama wasn't counting on the racist vote anyway so go ahead and check the box for McCain and help support overturning RvW.
I bet you think he's a Muslim too?

You missed the big piture. This is one of Clintons biggest supporters. We see a srat to pave the wave for other candidates. What we see is that Clinton has no lock on the VP slot. Good Gor Wes Clark!!!

I cannot think of anything more idiotic and self-defeating than Clinton's supporters not voting Democrat simply because their candidate didn't win. What a crock. What a childish short-sighted set of sore losers. What are you? Eight?
They will bring up the popular vote, which isn't accurate since the it ignores the caucus states. They will whine about Florida and Michigan, ignoring the fact that Hillary supported it until she realized she needed it.
Hillary is not VP material. You cannot have two strong personalities in charge like that. Her and Bill would become a distraction without a doubt.
When you throw your votes away out of spite, I hope you relish the additional conservative judges it brings to your women's causes.
Hillary lost. Fair and square. She has nobody to blame but herself.

Good for Wesley Clark. Yes, I would like to see a female Vice President---(good way for us to get our foot in the door) but NOT Hillary Clinton! She's dragging around a great deal of baggage, and the 6'4" item is the worst of all. Obama would be stuck with TWO vice presidents, both of them bent on his eventual destruction. Dear God, no.

"I'd love to see Biden as VP but I think he's let his mouth run a bit too loosely as of late -- might be a liability beyond the fact he's a New England liberal who the GOP can paint as another John Kerry."
Posted By: denverdan
Delaware is not in New England.

Hillary on the ticket would be poison. First it wouldn't be a Obama-Clinton ticket, it would be a Obama-Clinton-Clinton ticket. Second having her on the ticket runs counter to his "Turning the Page" campaign which energized the younger vote. Lastly, to much bad blood now. Even today, knowing that she is not going to win, she refuses to concede. Obama-Sebelius is a great idea even tho I prefered Obama-Webb because of Jim Webbs military experience to slap back the republicans, and because VA is trending blue.

That would be such a great pick. I love that lady! She brings quality I seek from a woman. She is a true original woman leader that has not been palorized that would give many women hope that a women can become the top person in this country.

Sebelius is a great speaker. The SOTU night was not her most dynamic moment.
I heartily support her for VP. She is the woman many women hoped Hillary would be. She will repair the damage Hillary has done to the women's movement by behaving despicably.

i thinksebelius has already been identified as someone who could not win but lose states for the dems. sounds like a good choice for obama to me. an inexperienced guy and a VP who can pull her own state.

Posted By: Tyrone | June 03, 2008 at 09:50 AM
'NOT POSSIBLE!! Why her other than Hillary. Some would see this as a slap in the face. What ever happen to all the UNITY talk. This would not bring UNITY to the party. This would bring CHAOS!'
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Oh please... how can you talk about unity in such an inaccurate way? How can you expect Obama to choose Hillary when SHE has been the one who has been dividing the party; as well as bringing chaos to this country.
And who cares if this is a slap in the face for Hillary? That's just the tip of the iceberg for her slimy behavior. She deserves so much more for the way she has been.
That's the way it is with all you Clintonites: you expect special treatment, especially when things don't go your way; and when they don't you have a hissy fit.
Well, forget that.
That is why your candidate is a real loser.

Obama/Clark! is my first choice. Sebelius would do though her response to the state of the union lacked mightily. Clark, on the other hand, has learned a great deal about the big stage since he ran in '04..

Harley-- I'm sorry that you feel so strongly about this as to use Jesus and profanity in the same breath. That's a lot of hate to carry around. I pray you get some inner peace and relief-- Jesus will help if you ask Him, to come into your heart...

THIS IS THE BEST IDEA ANYONE HAS HAD IN THIS WHOLE CAMPAIGN-PLEASE DO NOT OFFER CLINTON V P MY GOD THIS WOULD BE AWFULL, SINCE BILL OPENED HIS BIG MOUTH AGAIN-WHINGING BECAUSE HIS WIFE DID NOT HAVE THE MANAGEMENT SKILLS TO RUN A CAMPAIGN.
GO OBAMA AND FAMILY

It is interesting to see the ?happenings? in these so called final days of the Democratic Primary. Senator Clinton and President Clinton do not seem to be willing to allow a ?small thing? like delegate count to stop their quest for the White House. Looking on it seems like a battle: Clintons vs The Democratic party. The Democratic Party seems to want to unite and move towards building and presenting their argument against the Republican Party and to the Nation. The Clintons seem to want to fight, even past the convention if they have to, in order to win. Two different plains. I see Senator Clinton, just searching for enough support, just trying to build enough steam, just searching for enough encouragement and the tenacity to go to the Convention, to slug it out on the floor. She is not ready to look at unity or reconciliation if there is the slightest chance of taking it to the brawl. Then she might have a chance to win. They know what they are good at??????. and the Democratic Party seems to be afraid of them. Why ? Perhaps because of the influence and hold that they seem to have over some American people ? Is it respect or is it fear ?
The Clintons have set up a situation with many of the American people, where she in my opinion, cast in the role of the victim, the disadvantaged and the disenfranchised. I will not go to the sexist or race issues?? but, if we were to examine the statements and insinuations etc, etc. (history will tell). Someday people on the inside of both campaigns will write books and perhaps we will get greater insight on what was real.
To me it is not just Rules, but when you are willing to change your principles as you go along, even when it is blatantly obvious, how can I trust you. Then it is not about the good of a nation or its people it becomes about you and your desire for power. Thin line, both things look alike, but they are not the same.
Are the Democratic Party and the American people owned by the Clintons. Are they so great that, only they know what is good for America and the answer is them? Only they know who can win in November and it is them ? They know that only they can win, because they would have inflicted enough damage to make that so?
I HOPE I AM WRONG. Help me understand.

I think Sebelius would be a great choice. Some are smacking her down for her SOTU address, but I liked it. It said what needed to be said. She is someone on which Obama could rely without worrying about being stabbed in the back. She is strong without having to make a scene. She is someone that the women of this could really look up to. She has effectively worked across party lines in KS. She is catholic and raised in OH where her father was a gov. She could definitely help change the electoral map.

My two favorite:
Sebelius
Lugar (I'm not kidding - he would be GREAT too and balance the foreign policy experience. Plus they've worked together before. Plus, Lugar's from my state and an Eagle Scout. --)

Harley,
If that is how you feel (that you won't vote for democrat if Obama win nom.) then I will say that you are NOT a true democrat in the first place. This is basically how I feel about those emotional irrational Hillary supporters who would rather throw their vote away (as if they can afford to) by voting for someone who doesn't even pretend to care about democratic values, just because their favorite is not the one representing them. Do you understand that decisions like that will hurt the American people the most...i.e. YOU?

Clinton's so-called popular vote count includes the Republicans who have been urged to vote for her, 'cos she is a hands-down loser, the bag of scandals and unethical activities that the GOP hopes to gain for. The Clintons are a mere trailer-trash. McCain.

No to Hillary as VP. Afterall, she indicated early on that Obama had NO EXPERIENCE AND she supported McCain, who like her had experience. This indicates that she wants to be McCain's VP. Obama needs someone like Chris Dodd,Daschle, Jim Webb, or Tim Kane. They would bring experience and LOYALTY to the ticket.

I thought she'd be a good pick too until I googled her last name.
Her son invented and sells an adult game called "Don't Drop the Soap" about life in prison.
I can just imagine what the Repubs would make of that one.
Obama needs another family image person - like Mark Warren. So that when the soccer moms and family values folks look at the Democratic convention - they see two nice families and when they look at Repubs they see an old man with a trophy wife. Stuff like that shouldn't matter but it does.

I don't know why people make such a big about Gov. Sebelius state of the union respones, it was good to go. I
think she'd make a great choice but you need hil to be supportive of it.
I'm talkin cheerleader uniform supportive, cartwheels and everything.

After Senator Clinton's behavior during the campaign, I don't think we should worry about hurting her feelings. Anyway, why would she accept the VP spot on somebody's ticket who "has no experience, can't win, isn't electible, brings nothing to the office of the president except a speech" and who she prefers less than McCain!! I suggest Jim Webb for VP on the Obama ticket. Let John McCain have Hillary.

It kills me how alot of Hillary supporters are so against Obama they will vote for McCain as if he is the next best alternative. I know her supporters only have a HS diploma but they can't be that dumb?!?!?! Can they?!?!?!

I like George Mitchell as VP. Comes out of retirement for one term to make sure this ships gets sailing in the right direction from the get-go. Mitchell is one of the most well-respected politicians of the last 20 years (both dems and reps agree). He's helped make peace in Northern Ireland through negotiation (fits Obama's message). He'd bring incredible gravitas to the administration. People will feel more comfortable with an elder statesman/stateswoman in there. Will help to get stuff done since he's absolutely loved in the Senate. In a sense he'd do for Obama what Cheney did for Bush, but without the divisiveness. Thoughts?

"It kills me how alot of Hillary supporters are so against Obama they will vote for McCain"--there are not that many. They are merely vocal. For the moment.
Makes me think of people settling a suit. Before the court date is nigh, people can say with significant conviction that they would never settle for less than a million bucks. But nothing like having a check in hand or having to show up in court to make that number more flexible.
People who have ever cared about abortion rights will not vote for McCain. And I think the vast majority of Hillary's real support have some concern in that respect.

responding to kim at 9:43 am.
I will think of you with each new death in Iraq and McCain's Iran. Please don't
continue the war. Please help us find a
job and a doctor we can afford. We need to be united now. Please.

Good choice - Kathleeen has CLASS, just like OBAMA has class. They get more done with wisdom. Neither has to cheat, steal or threaten. They are honorable and have integrity. Now that is a 16 year winning streak.

Excellent choice, as long as she can show toughness and consistency, and a good match for his values and temperament. She needs to be tough but not bellicose to match up in a debate w whoever McCain picks. She also needs to look credible if something should happen to Obama. She needs to be ready for prime time. I am hearing nothing but good stuff about Sebelius.

Ok - Obama IS the nominee and I hope all the Clinton people will rally behind him (as SHE would want you to do). He did nothing to stop her from winning, those were her own mistakes. They share many common policies and goals. Anyone who votes for McCain (BombIran) McCain can regret it just the way the people that voted for Bush did (do you want more blood on your hands??. If you are a woman, think about it for a minute....do you want to lose your right to choose, because you will if McCain gets to fill vacancies on the Supreme Court. Think before you keep complaining!
Kathleen Sebelius has been my pick all along, she stopped by our campaign HQ in Biloxi and was just wonderful.
Obama/Sebelius!

Picking Hillary would totally negate the themes of "change" that Obama ran on.THE CLINTON'S ARE TRYING TO PUT OBAMA IN A BOX BY LEAKING THAT SHE WOULD GO FOR VP. Her negatives are astounding with core Democrats, Independents, and wingnuts (who might not vote if she is not onthe ticket). I feel sorry for Obama having to put up with the hubris of the Clinton's.

After watching Charlie Rose last night w two AIPAC types on I had the feeling he must be a charter member (Bilderbergers) and that they may be feeling their control over everything and everyone melting away..
Anyone else catch it?

You know, I think that the Clintons aren't that honest when it comes to getting elected, or they surround themselves with sleazy types and fight like Republicans, but I remember Bill Clinton's presidency, and he seemed to honestly care about the average person. His morals and conduct were atrocious and he made serious mistakes, but I could tolerate him because I could tell he was competent and actually was working hard at being President. Bush/Cheney have together singlehandly destroyed the credibility of the Republican party and of US reputation abroad, while lying almost daily. Bush's macho arrogant attitude stinks, and his work ethic is terrible, and he doesn't even have a minimal competency. Sometimes I don't know if he is comprehending what is going on. Cheney is a bigger criminal than Martha Stewart, yet he is still running around.

I was never a fan of Bill Clinton. His strategy of selling out traditional Democratic party values to co-opt Republican positions was great gamesmanship, but sad. He's the man who watched a mentally handicapped man be executed, as Governor in 1992, rather than look "soft" on crime (google Ricky Ray Rector).
Hillary seems more of the same. Her lies about sniper fire and the distorted popular vote numbers are pretty disgusting, but nothing compared to her caving on Iraq for political expediency. She didn't complain about the Florida and Michigan delegates being seated until she desperately needed those votes. In fact her surrogates on the rules committee at the time were all for punishing those two states.
We need change, not more of the same shameless Clinton politics and lies.
I also hope the Obama campaign does not spend a cent towards the Clinton campaign debt.

if she were to get elected i would have no more faith in that administration adhering to the constitution and not being corrupt as i do the current one. she has done plenty of good "photo ops" in Kansas, and sadly not much else.

Please God Obama/Sebelius...Please God Obama/Sebelius
Please don't let the Hillary trolls come anywhere near this guy. I feel she would sabotage the ticket and run again in 2012. And even if she didn't I dont want to have to even have such suspicion about the vp.

Now Wes Clark wouldn't be a bad pick himself. Knows how to run a presidental campaign. Has extensive military experience. Won the war in Kosovo without any U.S. troop losses, is a Clinton loyalist, and is very smart on his feet.

Great choice for Vice President! Bill Richardson would be best as Secretary of State, not Vice President. He's already talked to almost everyone and could bring us back into the community of Civilized nations. And, since I'm waxing wishful, how about Edwards as Attorney General? Hillary should be exiled as Secretary of HHS if she's that interested in Universal Health care, or an associate justice on the Supreme Court?

In last night's dull and rambling speech to supporters and donors, Sen. Hillary Clinton did not even acknowledge Sen. Barack Obama as the presumptive Democratic Party nominee for President of the United States. Therefore, on what basis should Sen. Obama meet with her to discuss the VP running mate position? Sen. Clinton's words and actions throughout this campaign season have been demeaning and insulting to Sen. Obama. Her "no-decision" speech did not put my concerns to rest. I expected grace and humility especially from someone who wants to become the next Vice President, but all I heard was a "better-than-thou" rant. This is a sign of trouble to come should Sen. Obama choose her as his running mate. Given what happened or did not happen last night, I cast my lot with Gov. Sebelius as the VP running mate! She strikes me as a level-headed, calm, and humble public servant, and not a Queen-in-Waiting!

Hillary Clinton is a deeply flawed, corrupt, faux feminist fraud who has engaged in the worst kind of politics during this election cycle and illustrated that the highest calling in life for a Clinton is their blind political ambition. No Presidential Nominee should ever have to consider placing on the ticket someone who has suggested some of the most disturbing things that she has during this process.

YES...YES. She IS the one! I have thought for a long time that Governor Kathleen Sebelius would be an ideal, complimentary (with ideas and charisma) VP candidate for Senator Obama.
She is a party loyal, charismatic, beautiful, intelligent and smart. She also has been a loyal supporter of Sentor Obama. She is not devisive, inherently evil and envious like someone else I am thinking of. Let's encourage this!

If Hillary had won the primary the rigt wing republicans would be galvanized...if she is on the ticket, they will be doubley galvanized. The republicans and the religious right hate the clintons! So, has everyone forgotten these facts?