Ron Paul: “I have received several calls and visits from constituents who, in spite of the heavy investment in their training, have been forced out of the military simply because they were discovered to be homosexual. To me, this seems like an awful waste. Personal behavior that is disruptive should be subject to military discipline regardless of whether the individual is heterosexual or homosexual. But to discharge an otherwise well-trained, professional, and highly skilled member of the military for these reasons is unfortunate and makes no financial sense.” (Source)

Of the 13,500 members of the military who have been discharged under “don’t ask, don’t tell” more than 1,000 filled critical occupations, such as engineers and interpreters.

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It is fact that men have always despised ‘sissies’, and women can barely tolerate their presence.

CaseyBro

Being a homosexual has no affect on a person’s personality or ability to do his or her job. If there are thousands of homosexuals already in the military and their coworkers have not had a problem with it, then what would be the harm? Combat situations rely solely on trust in your fellow armsmen; if you have been working with the people in your unit you come to trust them and know them. Being gay has nothing to do with that. Homosexuals are the same people you have worked with your whole career. What they do in the bedroom has no affect on how they perform and do their duty.

DanielGuyewski

Dear Mr. Paul,

I am a military veteran of 6 years in the Airforce, and I am shocked and outaged and appaled by your voting to allow homosexuals into the military, you opnely voted with the establishment to promote what God calls sin, I voted for you in previous primaries but I can no longer intrust you with my vote, shame on you sir and my God forgive you, you say your a Christian promote this garbage, read the Bible Mr. Paul!

Allan

For everybody making this a civil rights or libertarian issue, you should consider that the military is a special situation. In combat, nothing must be allowed to interfere with morale and the cohesiveness of the group. That is one reason women are not allowed in combat. As soon as you are discussing the military, liberty is out – it is necessarily an organized system of tight discipline and almost absolute authority. The reason homosexuals were excluded from the military is that it is a potential threat to the safety of personnel and the security of the forces. For the same reason homosexuals were previously excluded from the U.S. government. Homosexuals in government are a security risk because (1) closeted homosexuals can be blackmailed with threat of outing and (2) homosexuals, being ostracized by society, have some tendency to become traitors to their own society. Many of the well-known spies for the Soviets in Western governments and intelligence organizations were homosexuals.

Ron Paul is still an excellent candidate, simply because he adheres to the constitution. You just don’t need to know anything more about the guy. All the people here thumbing their nose at him over this issue are ignoring the primary reason for which he deserves support. I disagree with him about a number of things myself, including this issue (at least until he explains his position further). Even so, he does have a point.

And remember, DADT was introduced by Clinton, as a compromise policy for his proposal to remove the ban on homosexuals in the military altogether. Repealing this effectively lifts the ban as Clinton originally wished, but DADT was still Clinton’s band-aid policy. Perhaps having homosexuals in the military unknown to other personnel is worse than having them there openly? Even without DADT, as Paul points out, homosexual practices can still be disciplined as any other misconduct is. The real problem then would be the civilian gay advocates intervening in the military, not homosexuals themselves, and Paul is definitely still opposed to their agenda, because it is essentially a non-libertarian one.

The people here saying he is a “confused liberal” are probably just those who have become confused by decades of Republican Party propaganda about what being a real American conservative really is. They can’t pigeon-hole it in their own framework of conservative, so they class it as liberal, not so much because it is similar to the liberal stance, but because it doesn’t fit their personal conservative stance. In that way they are playing into the dialectic strategy both parties are employing to divide the people into two camps which support one or the other party, both of whom ultimately stand for the same things and are controlled by the same people.

When an issue is so broad that it divides a Nation,
Attention must be directed to its resolve.
For:
Every kingdom divided against itself
Will be laid waste … … … and if the Republicans
Drive out the Democrats,
Satan would be divided against Himself;
How, then, would his kingdom stand?”
~
Capitalism:
Is a hangover from Feudalism.
Even today many corporations
Hold dead peasant insurance policies
On their employees,
Naming themselves as the beneficiary.

That ruling power elite does indeed control the U.S. government behind the scenes has been attested to by many Americans in a position to know. Felix Frankfurter, Justice of the Supreme Court (1939-1962), said: “The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes.” In a letter to an associate dated November 21, 1933, President Franklin Roosevelt wrote, “The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson.” February 23, 1954
The CFR is the promotional arm of the Ruling Elite in the United States of America. Most influential politicians, academics and media personalities are members, and it uses its influence to infiltrate the New World Order into American life. Its’ “experts” write scholarly pieces to be used in decision making, the academics expound on the wisdom of a united world, and the media members disseminate the message.
These Corporate elite control the media, government, and all that supports their means of gaining power and wealth.

Are we really to believe that our Founding Fathers, with all their wit and deliberation, concluded that to be born in this country and having reached the age of thirty-five were ample qualification to be President? Or did they place an ambiguity in the twelfth amendment of the US Constitution as a failsafe?

As a preacher and as a Christian, I beg you please, take a stand against the gay agenda and reverse your position on allowing gays in our military, this absurd social experimenting and re-engineering of our military will cause great harm to our servicemen and our country as a whole, you say your a Christian Mr. Paul so let’ you put your monye where your mouth is, I as a pastor and a Christian, and a veteran cannot give you my support or my vote as long as you are both supporting and promoting thay gay agenda.

Ron Paul Sold us out people! s i vet i don’t think that i will be able to vote for him ever again because he voted to allow these sodomites to serve opnely in the military, Christian chaplains who oppose homosexuality are being told to either face courtmartial or leave the service, you will now not have any free speech rights or religious freedoms in the military, thanks alot Mr. Paul!

A virus (such as HIV) must invade a living cell such as a church, the US congress, the military or other social origination, in order to reproduce and spread its toxin.

States Rights?

Sorcery:
Because by thy sorcery have all nations been seduced signifies that by their wicked arts and persuasions they have compelled all the well disposed to believe and to do those things from which they have gained dominion and wealth. This is evident from the signification of “sorcery,” as being arts and persuasions,also from the signification of “nations” as being those who are in good, thus the well disposed; also from the signification of “to be seduced,” as meaning to be deceived by such arts and persuasions into believing and doing those things from which they have gained dominion and wealth. “Sorcery” has nearly the same signification in the Word as “enchantment,” and “enchantment” signifies such persuasion as causes a man to have no other perception than that a thing is so..

You can look at all of the studies that man has made about homosexuality, but I would rather read the Bible and see what our creator thinks about it:

RO 1:27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

“Our Founding Fathers predicted the inevitable demise of their republican form of government, which is presently upon us: ‘It takes time, observed John Jay, to make Sovereigns of Subjects and for them to realize that the government is their own.’
‘The Republic will degenerate into a democracy with the politicians promising largess and the people voting their own self-interest,’ quipped Madison.
‘The lawyers will get into Congress to manage the Constitution, license paper money and pillage the treasury,’ remarked Amos Singletary.
‘The Supreme Court judges, ignorant of its historical setting, will be unable to interpret the Constitution and the original intent of its provisions; and there will arise a two-party system, divided along economic interests, leading to deadlock as the public good is disregarded in the conflict of rival parties,” opined Madison. Re: The Federalist Papers, en essentia

Apocalypse Explained; Sorcery:
Because by thy sorcery have all nations been seduced signifies that by their wicked arts and persuasions they have compelled all the well disposed to believe and to do those things from which they have gained dominion and wealth. This is evident from the signification of “sorcery,” as being arts and persuasions,also from the signification of “nations” as being those who are in good, thus the well disposed; also from the signification of “to be seduced,” as meaning to be deceived by such arts and persuasions into believing and doing those things from which they have gained dominion and wealth. “Sorcery” has nearly the same signification in the Word as “enchantment,” and “enchantment” signifies such persuasion as causes a man to have no other perception than that a thing is so..

Well as a veteran I can say personally that I can no longer, in good conscience, support Ron Paul if this is the direction he is going to go, what’s next? will he vote for gay marrige? gay adoptions of childen? He is spposed to be a good christian and yet he votes for pervision of the highest magnitude! he sold us out man, I will will support whoever the constitution pary nominates a candidates which I hope will be Chuck baldwin again- Chuck Baldwin for Preident in 2012!

9:14 am: "ooo wow nice attempt at a ad hom! Did the reds steal the election from you? Where is McCarthy when you need him? Am I right?" - JBrown

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