I don't think you did get my point. My point is that saying metalcore isn't hardcore because it doesn't sound the same as the old stuff is just as ******ed as saying '80s hardcore isn't punk because it didn't sound like the older stuff.

Is fingering an emo chick that likes yoy and that has fallen in love with you is it wrong to you to finger her during lunch outside in front of everyone at the high school? would you not care or lol even wish it was you?

You should check out Irish hardcore punk band only fumes & corpses (myspace.com/onlyfumesandcorpses). They just signed to lockjaw records and are releasing a new album 'who really cares? what really lasts?' on the net in September.