tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post3656951904477849424..comments2019-03-01T04:18:38.501-08:00Comments on Catholic Bibles: My Top 5 Catholic Bible TranslationsTimothyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12530713931306188305noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post-30502355768791737992017-12-30T17:09:42.877-08:002017-12-30T17:09:42.877-08:00Dear Anonymous:
(1) To put it in &quot;modern&quo...Dear Anonymous:<br /><br />(1) To put it in &quot;modern&quot; terms, Faith is a choice moved by an impulse of the mind. You choose to believe in God and what He has revealed, because He is God. He is truthful, and not deceptive. But, it <i>is</i> a choice. On some things, this choice can be made easily (like, God exists); on others, the choice can be hard and may have to be made constantly (like, believing the bread and wine actually become Christ in the Eucharist). Doubt <i>per se</i> is not sinful. Doubt could become sinful if, when knowing God’s revelation, one simply chooses not to believe it. There is a huge difference, morally speaking, between having difficulty in faith, yet trying to believe, and saying, &quot;I will not believe this.&quot;<br /><br />(2) The Jerusalem Bible is an English translation of a French translation of the Bible. I do not like the English translation: The translators chose quirky, odd phrasings that did little to clarify the text. Seemingly, they just wanted to be different. Scholars love the JB’s notes on the original text. The JB was re-done as the &quot;New Jerusalem Bible.&quot; It still has some truly peculiar phrasings (which is why I still don’t use it), but it’s much better than before.<br /><br />(3) As for &quot;the right way&quot;: Friend, <b>NONE</b> of us comes before the Lord &quot;the right way.&quot; If you think your creaturely “way” is going to impress God -- it’s not! Also, we are sinners in need of God’s mercy and love. So, it’s normal to feel uncomfortable (or, “un-right”) coming into God&#39;s presence, because you sense that something is not right to begin with. Realize, however, that <i>God does not see you that way</i>! Rather, He sees you as someone called to be with Him happily forever: a “saint.” This is the whole point of Christmas and what follows: <i>&quot;[I]t is proof of God&#39;s own love for us, that Christ died for us while we were still sinners&quot;</i> (Rom 5:8, NJB).<br /><br />(4) As for dress at Holy Mass: You know already <i>where</i> you are going. You know <i>What</i> will be going on while you’re there. You know <i>Who</i> will become present when you go. Dress accordingly! Clothes don’t just jump onto one’s body. You choose to wear them. Participating in the offering of Christ&#39;s Sacrifice of the Cross, receiving His Flesh and Blood sacramentally, hearing the Word of God proclaimed -- do these warrant wearing more than jeans and a tee-shirt?<br /><br />The Catechism of the Catholic Church states this regarding the faithfuls&#39; participation in Holy Mass: <b>&quot;Bodily demeanor (gestures, clothing) ought to convey the respect, solemnity, and joy of this moment when Christ becomes our guest&quot; (para. 1387).</b> Therefore, I neither can nor will tell you otherwise. I’m certainly not going to justify it, saying dressing up “doesn’t matter.”<br /><br /><b>BUT</b>, if the above is going to keep you from going to Mass in the first place, then: leave it aside for now. Not everything needs to be adjudicated first. Otherwise, you end up doing nothing (or, much less). Instead, <b>JUST GO!</b> Run to the Lord with whatever you’re wearing and in whatever state you are! He will help you to sort out the other.<br />mwidunnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05865753469746747533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post-42020528692951423922017-12-30T07:39:18.506-08:002017-12-30T07:39:18.506-08:00The English Standard Version, it is not as good as...The English Standard Version, it is not as good as it might seem. <br />In this I agree with you that there are also better texts :)Dawidhttp://topaz.info.pl/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post-91949498959542452852017-12-27T04:40:45.225-08:002017-12-27T04:40:45.225-08:00Anon,
Thanks for the comment. I’ll do my best to...Anon,<br /><br />Thanks for the comment. I’ll do my best to answer your questions:<br />Your Jerusalem Bible is perfectly fine. It is a little old, but if you like reading it then go ahead and use it. If you want something that is a bit closer to what you will hear at Mass, perhaps consider getting an NABRE (New American Bible revised Edition). It has been recently updated, contains annotations, and can be found in various editions that you might find helpful. <br /><br />As for clothing, you should be fine with jeans. A lot of that depends on the parish you attend. I live in a suburban setting, so it is not uncommon for people to wear anything from jeans to being more dressed up. I can’t say if that would be the same in yours. It very well might. Worse comes to worse, just see how they are dressed when you attend and adjust if you need to when you go back.<br /><br />Let me also say that it is perfectly fine to struggle with religious faith. I believe that if someone finds it too easy to believe in God, it might not be God they are actually believing in (somewhat a paraphrase from a favorite author of mine, Thomas Merton). So feel free to struggle with this. I certainly do, even to this day. <br /><br />If you want to chat via email, you are welcome to do so. mccorm45(at)yahoo(dot)com<br /><br />Best wishes and blessings on your journey.Timothyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12530713931306188305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post-58962671364908991932017-12-27T01:52:36.309-08:002017-12-27T01:52:36.309-08:00Hello Timothy,
How are you? I have struggled wit...Hello Timothy, <br /><br />How are you? I have struggled with the concept of religious faith for a long time. I have relatives who are Methodist and go to church every Sunday, but I live way out in the country in a different state and, although I love and respect them, I don&#39;t agree with many of their political viewpoints. I have seen what narrow-mindedness due to religion can do, and I really don&#39;t like that. I know that not all religious people are like this, and that it is not religion that causes this issues but human nature. Anyhow, I have been to Catholic mass a few times, and I felt very connected to the religion and as if I believed most of the values being taught. I have a lot of doubt sometimes, and have trouble getting over this. Also, many of my friends are not religious, and I often feel judged if I tell them I am, which makes me feel very self conscious, and a bit guilty, even though I know I shouldn&#39;t be. Long story short, I am planning to start going to mass again and be more consistent this time, but I want to do it the right way, and I have little experience with Catholicism. I have an old copy of the Jerusalem Bible at home and want to start studying a Catholic edition of the bible, but am not sure if that would be the one to start with or not? It is a very old edition as well. So, which version would you recommend for personal study for someone who is very new to the religion? Also, I get very self conscious about what to wear to mass when I do go. I live in a very remote area and I am not used to dressing up. What do people generally wear when they go? Are jeans acceptable if they are nice ones? Thank you in advance!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post-5719917395066171992017-04-29T03:58:15.932-07:002017-04-29T03:58:15.932-07:00Hi Judy,
There are a couple options:
1)Oxford NRS...Hi Judy,<br /><br />There are a couple options:<br />1)Oxford NRSV Notetskers bible. Out of print but still can get it used.<br /><br />2)New Jerusalem Bible Standard Edition<br /><br />3) The Message CatholicTimothyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12530713931306188305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post-80104382433170983882017-04-29T00:25:17.723-07:002017-04-29T00:25:17.723-07:00I am looking for a Catholic bible with extra wide ...I am looking for a Catholic bible with extra wide margins for note taking or bible journaling. There are numerous Protestant bibles for this purpose. Is there a Catholic one?Judy Lindstromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09978863407722607778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post-27612912473237262712016-12-09T05:38:49.579-08:002016-12-09T05:38:49.579-08:00Very,
Search the website. There are numerous pos...Very,<br /><br />Search the website. There are numerous posts on the NABRE. God bless.Timothyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12530713931306188305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post-67151021181941318722016-12-09T05:36:59.022-08:002016-12-09T05:36:59.022-08:00Have you reviewed the NABRE yet? I think that the ...Have you reviewed the NABRE yet? I think that the OT translation, especially the Psalms have been vastly improved. I would love to hear your take on it.Bert McCollumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14250455816224800996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post-68973112527171905142016-11-26T01:12:57.398-08:002016-11-26T01:12:57.398-08:00Another thing:
The English Standard Version, an E...Another thing:<br /><br />The English Standard Version, an Evangelical Protestant-supported version I saw and liked many years ago, has finally &quot;bit the bullet&quot; and (oh, the horror!) put out an edition of their translation with the so-called &quot;Deutero-canonicals&quot; included . . . in the back, of course ;-)<br /><br />It can be found at:<br /><br />https://www.amazon.com/English-Standard-Version-Bible-Apocrypha/dp/0195289102mwidunnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05865753469746747533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post-81590352746251984362016-11-25T18:59:58.733-08:002016-11-25T18:59:58.733-08:00Regarding the Douay-Rheims, it really should be ca...Regarding the Douay-Rheims, it really should be called, the &quot;Challoner.&quot; What many call the &quot;Douay-Rheims Bible&quot; (D. R. B.) is actually Bishop&#39;s Challoner&#39;s fullscale revision of same back in the 1700&#39;s. The original D. R. B. -- which, incidentally, even as a translation from the Latin Vulgate is <i>still</i> based on a better manuscript tradition than the King James although derived from original Greek texts -- is quite different from Challoner&#39;s revision, which attempted (for some unknown and befuddling reason) to bring the D. R. B.&#39;s text into more accord with that of the K. J. V. This might explain why some converts from Protestantism feel a kind of subliminal liking for the readings found in the D. R. B.mwidunnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05865753469746747533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post-26528618765813315882016-04-23T15:22:35.328-07:002016-04-23T15:22:35.328-07:00The Church existed for nearly 1600 years before th...The Church existed for nearly 1600 years before the King James Bible. And when it was published, it would have been considered a &#39;modern translation&#39;! I have nothing against the KJV, just KJV onlyism!rolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00950594541531178789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post-20663195458488993282016-04-23T13:40:29.650-07:002016-04-23T13:40:29.650-07:00Hi! I think you might benefit from watching the f...Hi! I think you might benefit from watching the film New World Order: Bible Versions. It&#39;s available on YouTube. After watching this, I am convinced there is a perfect English translation of the Bible. Also, earlier manuscripts do not mean better. God bless you on your journey. Jessicanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post-83147396708840495422016-04-07T08:09:40.892-07:002016-04-07T08:09:40.892-07:00Crystal,
Greetings and welcome to this site. If ...Crystal,<br /><br />Greetings and welcome to this site. If you search a bit you will find numerous reviews about the many bible options you have. In your case, I would recommend either the Little Rock Catholic Study Bible or the Ignatius Catholic Study Bible New Testament. Both provide a ton of information, particularly for those who are just getting started. God bless!Timothyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12530713931306188305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post-22777964611893439982016-04-06T21:54:05.644-07:002016-04-06T21:54:05.644-07:00I am of catholic faith, but sadly have never read ...I am of catholic faith, but sadly have never read the bible. I enjoy mass, but the homily has always been my favorite because I can easily relate to the messages or the interpretation of the readings. I would really like a version of the bible I can understand, perhaps with notes or study material. Can anyone recommend a suitable version?crystalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01568202223083856319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post-86238238117091426922015-02-13T22:02:24.100-08:002015-02-13T22:02:24.100-08:00I am in the process of converting to the Church, I...I am in the process of converting to the Church, I&#39;ll be baptized, confirmed, and receive first communion on Easter. I bought the NABRE, but sadly, I didn&#39;t like it at all. Then I got the Ignatius Bible, and it&#39;s good, but not for me. I bought the Douay-Rheims from Amazon, published bounded leather Loreto press. It is my favorite, and only Bible I like to study. It&#39;s so beautifully done, and I love the more archaic language in it<br /> Travis Perkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05731934292403310428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post-59699595749794918362014-06-20T09:48:02.437-07:002014-06-20T09:48:02.437-07:00Kim,
Why don&#39;t you email me: mccorm45(at)yaho...Kim,<br /><br />Why don&#39;t you email me: mccorm45(at)yahoo(dot)com. Let me know if you are looking for a study bible or one that is a plain text edition.Timothyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12530713931306188305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post-14374311932111408392014-06-18T19:07:12.276-07:002014-06-18T19:07:12.276-07:00Hi, Fr this is an interesting article. I am on the...Hi, Fr this is an interesting article. I am on the look out for a bible and my Mgr told me either NRSV Catholic or Jerusalem is appropriate. I have just got back into the faith and would love a great bible to read each day. I am confused and not sure which bible is best. I was thinking about the Harpers NRSV Standard but the front looks a bit ugly. Do you have any recommendations? God bless, Kim - Australia.~ Kim ~https://www.blogger.com/profile/17341653362616566495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post-54052965312061102442013-12-18T11:20:09.684-08:002013-12-18T11:20:09.684-08:00Maria,
I&#39;d be happy to help. What are looking...Maria,<br />I&#39;d be happy to help. What are looking for in a translation? What kind of Bible, hardcover, leather, paperback?Timothyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12530713931306188305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post-23623122581674813492013-12-18T11:09:57.623-08:002013-12-18T11:09:57.623-08:00I am looking for a Catholic bible. I don&#39;t. Kn...I am looking for a Catholic bible. I don&#39;t. Know how to go about finding the one I need. Can someone please help me? I see many bibles but I thought there was only one and translated to all these different languages. But I see theres many versions. Help please!Maria Perezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14688137653761927158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post-26706496401624035622013-03-22T03:39:17.986-07:002013-03-22T03:39:17.986-07:00I know this post is old, but I have a question. Wa...I know this post is old, but I have a question. Was the Catholic Living Bible ever popular? I found a copy of the Catholic One Year Bible in a secondhand bookstore a while back. The book was published in the 80s. The Bible is divided into 366 chunks and the Deuterocanonicals are in the back of the book. It has the Imprimatur and Nihil Obstat from the Bishops. Interestedly the Bishops&#39; approval was for the Deuterocanonicals only and not the rest of the book.hoshienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post-38060476856134068272012-04-06T22:07:27.610-07:002012-04-06T22:07:27.610-07:00I know it&#39;s been years since you posted this, ...I know it&#39;s been years since you posted this, but I just found it -- and I wanted to mention, there are quite a few study helps keyed to the NAB from Liturgical Press. In addition, if one is using any modern &quot;respectable&quot; translation, most reference materials can be used across translations. So, for instance, if a commentary is based on NRSV or NIV, it can be used with the NAB without many problems. I think the lack of study materials you mention for many of these translations is more a function of the general low-volume of Catholic Bible study materials for ALL translations, as compared to the vast amount of such materials available from evangelical sources (which are usually keyed to KJV, NIV, ESV, NASB and NKJV).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post-61449837290504651802009-11-19T17:35:30.917-08:002009-11-19T17:35:30.917-08:00Both a complete bible and a Latin-English New Test...Both a complete bible and a Latin-English New Testament with Psalms are available at http://www.lulu.com/ex_fontibusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post-10882385040705486062008-09-12T18:52:00.000-07:002008-09-12T18:52:00.000-07:00Jeremy,Thanks for stopping by. Was that Latin tra...Jeremy,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for stopping by. Was that Latin translation you were thinking about the Knox translation? I think Baronius Press is putting out a new edition of that this year. Also, there is the Confraternity NT which was done in the US in the 40's I think. They never did the OT because of the Vatican't directives to translate from the original languages after the Pius XII encyclical Divino Afflante Spiritu.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12530713931306188305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post-83247259697360750172008-09-11T22:49:00.000-07:002008-09-11T22:49:00.000-07:00I think we both have the same pleasure and frustra...I think we both have the same pleasure and frustration with the NRSV translation. I recently did an exegesis of John 2:23-3:21 and it was incredibly obscured by the NRSV. In 2:25-3:1 the word man (anthropos) is used three times in Greek and four times in the RSV translation: “because he knew all <B>men</B> and needed no one to bear witness of <B>man</B>; for he himself knew what was in <B>man</B>. Now there was a <B>man</B> of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus.” In John’s simple style he is pointing us to the function of the following dialogue with Nicodemus where Nicodemus stands for every human person. <BR/><BR/>Now it's there in the NRSV, but you have to dig really deep to find it. I fail to see how the reader is served by obscuring this meaning that most commentators see as very clear. <BR/><BR/>Also, there was a good revision to the Douay-Rheims this past century that was similar to the revision done to create the RSV-Second Catholic Edition. I don't remember the name of the revision, but I'd like to get my hands on it. I have the Baronius Press edition and I like it, but the language is a bit tough. Although, the Psalms are quite beautiful and really capture the "earthiness" of the Hebrew.Jeremy Priesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09474886113396100056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5272296692697032264.post-56765616984545147762008-09-10T11:47:00.000-07:002008-09-10T11:47:00.000-07:00Esteban,Well, that is just wonderful to hear. I w...Esteban,<BR/><BR/>Well, that is just wonderful to hear. I will make sure to let Fr. Jorgenson know....I know he will be very delighted! Thanks for stopping by my new blog!Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12530713931306188305noreply@blogger.com