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chrism56

Following on from the main post yesterday, people are realizing that namecalling your opponents is counterproductive as it alienates the undecided and doesn’t sway the target. Like the habit of the left calling everyone against them a fascist or racist. Nowhere was this more evident in the UK than Brexit, though the US with anti-Trump isn’t far behind.https://unherd.com/2018/03/britain-not-run-fascists-racists-bigots-many-enlightened-liberals-hate-debate/?=refinnar
“That’s the script. But here’s the rub: unsurprisingly, people don’t like being branded as these things. And if you’re one of those doing the branding, you’re unlikely to win hearts and minds. On the contrary, this kind of abuse does nothing to foster unity or build a common good in communities which are already alienated and atomised – the kind of communities which voted Leave in such huge numbers because they were sick and tired of being held in contempt by a tin-eared establishment that did so little to gainsay the pernicious notion that their attitudes were in some way repugnant.
The unintended coalition, spawned by Brexit, that now exists between these working-class communities, once the bedrock of Labour support, and the Tory shires will not easily be put asunder. And the deepening estrangement between these millions and the rest of the country – including the army of well-heeled, hectoring liberals and their allies among the political class – will not be overcome without an end to the deployment of extreme and hysterical language which has the sole purpose of suffocating debate and snuffing out unfashionable opinions.”

lurcher1948

High Flying Duck

The racist call is made by leftists who want to stifle arguments.
That’s why Southern, Moyneux, Brash, Hooten etc are all called “racists” ad nauseum.
Feel free to correct me with the litany of poor dissaffected leftists who have been tarred with the racist brush by the right?

Blazer

Corky

Oh, dear. I did warn President Trumpy yesterday. He should read this blog to receive my sage advice. Little things like this can ultimately have devastating consequences downstream. This is something his core supporters may take notice of.

Corky

Kitty Catkin

Not at all. You have been singing the praises of gun owning and your Islamaphobia is no secret. I wondered how you would justify the right to own a gun in cases like this. The shooter is a woman-hating gun-owner, a killing spree looking for somewhere to happen. Had this man been Muslim. we would never have heard the end of it.

Corky

”You have been singing the praises of gun owning and your Islamophobia is no secret. ”

No, I have been supporting the right to bear arms for defence. There’s little to sing about regarding guns.

I don’t suffer from Islamophobia. A phobia is an irrational fear. My problems with Islam are based on facts. I have posted enough for you to understand that. Muslims telling you in their own words how it is and will be. It’s people like you have the problem..not me.

Had this man been Muslim. we would never have heard the end of it.

Probably. Because no Muslims should be in any Western country given the incompatibility of their religion with Western values. The shooter in this case is Western. Born in the West. We have no choice. He’s ours.

Now, for people who have a problem processing reality, this smug Muslim women spells it out for you. At 0.36.

However, some people do ‘get it.” I don’t agree with ripping up the Koran though. That was unnecessary.

Corky

You must remember, Lurchy…President Trumpy isn’t a patriot..isn’t a politician..he’s a
wealthy businessman. That’s why he has no perception of the national importance of John McCains passing. That’s ultimately what makes him so good, and ultimately what will lead to his demise.

Blazer

sorethumb

The distinctive feature of the New Zealand economy is that land is an important input into the productive process. This is obvious with the agricultural,fishing and forestry sectors but it also applies to international tourism. In a simple model of the New Zealand economy where the supply of land is fixed, and New Zealand’s isolation means it is not a ‘natural’ location for the production of a broad range of internationally traded goods and services, then an increase in the labour supply through large scale immigration will reduce the
marginal product of labour. As a result:

Real wages will fall

Owners of land will benefit

There will be an outflow of ‘native’ labour in search of higher wages in Australia

The economy will be bigger, but average incomes will fall

Resources will flow into low value service production.

This conventional model of the impact of an increase in labour supply is obviously a simplification of a complex reality, but we think that the fixed factor effect is important enough to be considered in any discussion or analysis of the impact of immigration in New Zealand. The official analysis, however, almost entirely omits it. There is a tendency to follow the international literature, where omitting the impact of fixed factors of production is a simplification that doesn’t matter very much, without thinking at all about how New Zealand could be different.http://www.tailrisk.co.nz/documents/TheSuperdiversityMyth.pdf

Alan Wilkinson

sorethumb

The National Party/NZ First need to hold academics to account for what they spout in the nation’s madrasas.

eco maori 5
26 August 2018 at 9:51 am
Good morning The hui Mihi these people who denie racism in Aotearoa don’t want to face reality because they sit at the top of there ladders of life that this system has dished up for them as well as being national supporter’s .
Locking OUR young men up in vast number’s has a few side effects like diluting the tangata whenua culture ie OUR wahine end up in relationship ships with non Maori
also with the stigerma and the hype around anything bad about Maori is haled throught a microphone this putt’s our Maori wahine off maori men there are a lot of good maori men it’s just that we are carrying around the tar and feathers that this system has plastered on Maori Eco Maori see this every day Ka kite anohttps://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-25-08-2018/

lurcher1948

lurcher1948

YOUR heroes America, what a stressful hole to live in
You go to school- you’re shot and killed
You go to church- you’re shot and killed
You go to a concert- you’re shot and killed
You go to the movies- you’re shot and killed
You go to a video game tournament- you’re shot and killed

When is enough enough? i will tell you when
When the right evolve
love FREE SPEECH

Kitty Catkin

Corky

lurcher1948

I’m listening to Andrew Dickins, and hes ranting FIX THE ROADS UP NORTH, LABOR well Andrew they would have been fixed if Sir Key got of his RICH ARSE and done something but NZME ZB is NATIONALS English/Sir Key/Bridges fan base and WHO is the tempory leader of the opposition Simon Bridges SHRILL
if i was labor i would nudge NZME and check their business model TAX wise, they sound facist

lurcher1948

I laugh,the new NZME shrill replacing larry williams tonight says be cautious labor over rental rules,as airbnb might take over,who will throw out tenants, well airbnb might go the same way the national party went,DOWN THE GURGLAR, the right are SO thick.