The top 3 "truthers" Tsarion, Icke, Maxwell full of baloney?

I think these guys are mixing truth with lies. There in it for the mula. Also something to remember is when a conspiracy theorist is too popular it
probably means his a disinfo agent. If these guys were less mainstream I would be more inclined to believe them.

I think some of the bs of T and M is astrotheology, I may be wrong though..

Gotta use your own discretion and intuition my friend. I read icke sometimes, half truths or not its up to you to seek out the full truth, because -no
one- tells the whole truth and nothing but the truth, never.

Icke and others like that may not know they are lying, they may perfectly believe what they say, doesn't mean they are not spreading false
information though, it happens all the time. Intuition is your best friend, its usually right.

They're making a living out of it, If they do tell you one truth and it attracts you to them, then they have to add 99 lies to it just to re-attract
you so that they may make a living out of you. And it's impossible that they know what they're speaking off, as if they have superhuman abilities to
detect "truth".

Originally posted by AzureSky
Gotta use your own discretion and intuition my friend. I read icke sometimes, half truths or not its up to you to seek out the full truth, because -no
one- tells the whole truth and nothing but the truth, never.

Icke and others like that may not know they are lying, they may perfectly believe what they say, doesn't mean they are not spreading false
information though, it happens all the time. Intuition is your best friend, its usually right.

I agree this is where you need to use your own logic and reason and see where this rings true with you.

Most people dismiss Icke because of the Reptillian thing. That makes him an easy target regardless of the veracity of that particular subject.
However, it is folly and also a strawman to say that becuase of that, all the rest he discusses and highlights is outright lies.

The best way to get someone ignored is to ridicule them. "Oh look, here's the man who claimed he was the Son of God and believes in a Reptillian
agenda". To me he makes a lot of sense on many subjects and I can't see him or anyone else making a career like the people you have mentioned out of
downright lies.

I'm sure Jesus was ridiculed (to give possibly a bad example) in his day by many of those in power at the time. 2000 years later...?

I know virtually nothing about Jordan Maxwell, to be honest; haven't really seen any of his material at all.

They do make money, however; but I don't have any particular objection to them doing that, especially since as far as I know, they aren't
billionaires. Tsarion generally dresses well, if in a heavily Plutonian style that resembles that of an undertaker.

I consider Icke's signal to noise ratio to usually be around 50%, to be honest; which doesn't really bother me either. I consider his perspective on
the economic system to be very insightful, and if he wants to combine that with the occasional straight jacket stuff about Reptilians and the Moon,
I'm not going to hold it against him. I'll just smile with a fair degree of deliberate indulgence and condescension, and then go back to whatever
else I was doing, until the next time he feels like saying something lucid. I've taken '___' before.

In other words, if you want to go digging, you have to be prepared to run into loads of fecal matter, as well as buried treasure. It doesn't mean
that they're con artists, necessarily; it just goes with the territory.

Originally posted by AzureSky
Gotta use your own discretion and intuition my friend.

This.

As for the OP, I haven't read/watched any of Maxwell or Icke, but I've watched a few of Tsarion's videos... and I noticed that, although I agreed
with a lot of what he had to say, some of it was BS (at least, in my experience). And it's only a problem when he based his conclusions on the facts
that I didn't agree with.

For example, I watched Tsarion's video on... The future of mankind or something like that. And he made a point about something he called the
Consensus Theory. Now, I agree with the theory, but I DON'T agree with his examples.
The theory is that, people will believe mainstream media. If something is in the media, it happened. If it's not in the media, it didn't happen. But
his example was how the moon landing never happened (despite being in the news). Now, I believe that the moon landing DID happen, so I couldn't agree
with his example proving his point, but I still agreed with his point.

So, listening to those conspiracy theorists is like that... just an exercise in discretion.

well Tsarion is a real dim with his take on history is worse than the stuff mainstream histors shoves down your neck, he actualy said tthe druids were
a race, I mean the moment he said that I just switched off to him, at least get your facts right before you distort them,

Originally posted by 0thetrooth0
I think these guys are mixing truth with lies. There in it for the mula. Also something to remember is when a conspiracy theorist is too popular it
probably means his a disinfo agent. If these guys were less mainstream I would be more inclined to believe them.

I think some of the bs of T and M is astrotheology, I may be wrong though..

i too had this feeling so i checked them out, i found that they follow the teachings of alice ann bailey ,who started lucis trust(im sure we all know
what that is) a theosophist who studied under helena petrovna blavatsky whos writings profoundly influenced the nazis and is the root of the new age
movement. in my humble christian opinion they are devieved at best if not decievers themselves.

Ive learned and actually began researching based on those three men. We are not supposed to take absolutes from anyone, but they are stepping
stones as far as I'm concerned.

No matter who you read, listen to or view their videos, whatever interests you, should just be the first step to further investigation. If your
looking for the "Messiah of Research and or Conspiracy" you will never fully learn the way that you were intended too.

Originally posted by 0thetrooth0
If these guys were less mainstream I would be more inclined to believe them.

This is illogical on the basis of that's the whole point for people in the underground; to become mainstream so their ideas, opinions and beliefs
eventually become mainstream. You can't hold success against them.

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