ochopika

Wow, thanks everyone for the votes so far! It makes the pains of climbing the gigantic Mt.Katahdin a little better (that is what I did earlier this weekend instead of wooting). It even hurts to draw...I don't even know why.

j5

polluxoil wrote:However, Snow White herself looks funny to me. I can't pinpoint exactly why (possibly her choice of skin color makes her stand out against the muted clockwork) but it makes the design seem slightly off since she's the centerpiece.

It might be because she's not depicted as a waifish, naive, 16 year old fallen princess, but instead as a rubinesque, mature, dominatrix.
Kudos for the design, gents. I will be sad when the proletariat voters overlook this for something....less.

wugsby

This is one of the best designs I've seen on Woot in a while! Whereas most shirts serve only to portray a visual punchline, this shirt portrays so much more with just one image. Masterfully done! I hope you stay around the shirt.woot derbies

Jackemmenjaser

tgentry wrote:And we could make the exact same argument and list similar quotes for Star Wars as mythology. People refer to it as American Mythology, Lucas drew directly from mythology just as Baum did fairy tales, it has familiar elements from mythology, and there have been exhibitions and books written about it as such. But we wouldn't (and didn't) want Star Wars in a mythology derby (or LOTR and similar 'modern mythologies') and we don't want Wizard of Oz in a Fairy Tale derby....
"In my review of A New Hope I called Star Wars "the quintessential American mythology," an American take on King Arthur, Tolkien, and the samurai / wuxia epics of the East, dressed in the space-opera trappings of Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon and festooned with a variety of nostalgic Hollywood influences — serial-adventure swashbuckling, WWII movie dogfights, movie-Need more history channel. villains, saloon shootouts."

"Lucas has been described as the first mass media mythologist. His inspiration for these mythical themes originated from a personal friendship with the late Joseph Campbell, perhaps the best-known expert in the field."

""Star Wars: The Magic of Myth" was on display at the National Air and Space Museum from October 31, 1997 to January 31, 1999. This online tour represents the exhibition as it was originally displayed at the National Air and Space Museum."

"Lucas had already written two drafts of Star Wars when he rediscovered Joseph Campbell's The Hero With a Thousand Faces in 1975 (having read it years before in college). This blueprint for "The Hero's Journey" gave Lucas the focus he needed to draw his sprawling imaginary universe into a single story."

And about a thousand other pages and books. We understand that people can consider Wizard of Oz an American fairy tale. For the purposes of this derby we don't, just like we accept that some people consider Star Wars to be American mythology, but we still don't want it in a mythology derby. Likewise we wouldn't want Pan's Labyrinth or Stardust references in this derby even though they could be considered modern fairy tales. Hopefully this is clear, I think we feel comfortable with this decision, however had we had the foresight to know someone would use the Wizard of Oz we might have known to included it in the "do not use" list. Hindsight is 20/20, so lesson learned on our part.

Negative on where George Lucas got the idea for Star Wars. It was actually a direct interpretation of Carl Jung's ideas on The Archetypes and Collective Unconscious.

This isn't really an argument for either side (Though I do feel Woot has its head up its own ass on this one), I just like to point out that Star Wars is not original whenever I get the chance. It's just another stolen idea that made it farther than the original. (Read: George Lucas was Steve Jobs before Steve Jobs was Steve Jobs)

DoublEE

A fairy tale is a type of short narrative that typically features such folkloric characters, such as fairies, goblins, elves, trolls, dwarves, giants or gnomes, and usually magic or enchantments. The Wizard of Oz does not apply to that definition.

The term mythology can refer to either the study of myths, or to a body of myths. Star Wars could apply.

The decision was not rash. We consulted on Friday on this one and on the Alice and Wonderland entry. In fact we took much more time in deliberating on this one. The call is that it's not what we're looking for in a fairy tale derby for the same reason Lord of the Rings or Star Wars is not what we're looking for in a mythology derby.

dedl0ck

I personally agree with most of the legs comments. They just appear to be a bit long. I understand that anime influence now and days, where the midsection is super tiny, but the legs are a bit meater,and longer then the correct anatomy (My thighs are not longer than my mid-section, but I am 5'5"). Either way, I find I don't appreciate the type of skirt you chose or it's length. It distracts me. It looks to be a just me thing- but I personally don't want my shirts to show more skin then I would. As a mens shirt it'll probably do great. I love the wolf, and it's design. The entire concept is good, but I don't think I'd buy it all in all considering.

dedl0ck

I liked the colors you used for both the design and the shirt color. And they go well together. I like the idea of the hands holding open a book, but I don't think I would've understood the concept without the title. One thing I've been working on is trying to make concepts clearer so when someones out and about, a person can see it, and be able to get the original idea straight off. I've recently been reading the discussion blogs and I've seen some people post there their sketches of their ideas, and the group communicates which one they like best. I'm planning on doing it from now on, and if you're new I think you'll benefit from it too. Good luck!

sunaness

paigeg

You all do see the deer, no? I think the artist was honestly referring to Bambi, and didn't just shoehorn this. Of course, I've been wrong before. It is a novel/film though, and not a fairy tale per se. But then, neither is Alice in Wonderland. The rejectionator is definitely having some agida this week.

taternuggets

paigeg wrote:You all do see the deer, no? I think the artist was honestly referring to Bambi, and didn't just shoehorn this. Of course, I've been wrong before. It is a novel/film though, and not a fairy tale per se. But then, neither is Alice in Wonderland. The rejectionator is definitely having some agida this week.

That was my point, that Bambi should fall in the same category as The Wizard of Oz and Alice in Wonderland....

Since that has been cause for rejection on a couple of shirts, it should be cause for them all to go... it certainly isn't fair to allow some shirts based on those titles to stand....

I like this submission and I hate to see it go.... Bambi just doesn't say "fairy tale" to me. It's just a matter of equally enforcing standards.

There is at least one or two other "Alice" shirts that need to meet the same fate.

DoublEE

Jackemmenjaser wrote:Negative on where George Lucas got the idea for Star Wars. It was actually a direct interpretation of Carl Jung's ideas on The Archetypes and Collective Unconscious.

This isn't really an argument for either side (Though I do feel Woot has its head up its own ass on this one), I just like to point out that Star Wars is not original whenever I get the chance. It's just another stolen idea that made it farther than the original. (Read: George Lucas was Steve Jobs before Steve Jobs was Steve Jobs)

Somewhere L.Frank Baum is spinning is his grave.

Here's the Introduction to The Wonderful Wizard of Oz word for word:

Introduction

Folklore, legends, myths and fairy tales have followed childhood through the ages, for every healthy youngster has a wholesome and instinctive love for stories fantastic, marvelous and manifestly unreal. The winged fairies of Grimm and Andersen have brought more happiness to childish hearts than all other human creations.

Yet the old time fairy tale, having served for generations, may now be classed as "historical" in the children's library; for the time has come for a series of newer "wonder tales" in which the stereotyped genie, dwarf and fairy are eliminated, together with all the horrible and blood-curdling incidents devised by their authors to point a fearsome moral to each tale. Modern education includes morality; therefore the modern child seeks only entertainment in its wonder tales and gladly dispenses with all disagreeable incident.

Having this thought in mind, the story of "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" was written solely to please children of today. It aspires to being a modernized fairy tale, in which the wonderment and joy are retained and the heartaches and nightmares are left out.

L. Frank Baum

Chicago, April, 1900.

I guess woot doesn't want modern fairy tales. It may have been a good idea to state this in the rules.

Spiritgreen

blinddog3d

I know this is a more simple design than usual, for me, but that's what I was going for. This doesn't have the lavish halftone work, but I did most of it in Illustrator9 (I'm not as fluent as I am in Photoshop). I'm not proud, but I am very pleased.

I didn't have the time, this weekend, because of Jr. Olympics but I think this will sell in Judo circles. Girls doing Judo sell really well at tournaments. Gotta get back to work, see ya next time.
BlindDog3D

tgentry

I left the mystery icon picture at the office this weekend, so it's late going up, but congrats! You won this week's Mystery Icon monkey prize, and by a narrow margin as the very next entry also featured a giant. Make sure your address is up to date and we'll send you your very own annoying screaming woot monkey!

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