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Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

Originally Posted by Travis007

Mexico and Cuba want to go nuclear since the USA has the bomb..

Yeah, and thanks to Israel's bull**** and hush-hush nature, we'd be bluffing our way through any sanctions too. Again Travis, you've ignored that Israel's deliberate ambiguity (that's their actual policy, not flowery language) while pushing for everyone else to abide with standards it doesn't follow on nuclear power is the problem.

Peace is a lie. There is only Passion. Through Passion I gain Strength. Through Strength I gain Power. Through Power I gain Victory. Through Victory my chains are Broken. The Force shall free me.

Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

and you post again reflect your lack of understranding of these adult subjects and the consequences of Obamas ignorance

Obama "sold out an ally" in the obscene dangerous way Ive seen in decades

Sold out? Lol. This isn't high school Travis. Israel tried to force everyone to abide by standards it didn't follow itself. If every country in the world decided to get nuclear weapons after this, it'd be Israel's fault for avoiding following the standards it wanted for everyone else.

Peace is a lie. There is only Passion. Through Passion I gain Strength. Through Strength I gain Power. Through Power I gain Victory. Through Victory my chains are Broken. The Force shall free me.

Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

For a guy who post so much in Foreign Policy discusssions you sure do have a backwards understanding of how things work.

Democracies arent " forced " but they sure can be torn asunder by irresponsible and purely political foreign policy decisions.

That much is evident as ISIS tears accross that Country murdering innocent Iraqi's and Kurds and Coptic Christians.

The facts are there were elections in Iraq and even Iraqi Women were allowed to vote.

Now the entire region is destabilized and its directly related to Obama's decision to remove all remnants of American militarily assets.

Your assertion that Democracy can't be " forced " is a twisted analysis of what actually happened in Iraq an is based on twisted comprehension of freedom and liberty.

No one " forces " Democracy. ( unless you mandate voting....) Democracy survives on its own when people are given the freedom to select their representives without the threat of retribution.

Dictatorships are FORCED, Tyrants and Kings force their minions into subjugation under the threat of persecution.

Right now freedom is being challenged by a group of extreme Islamo-fascist and it not the fault of " Democracy " nor is it the fault of the policies that sougt to Liberate a Nation of people who lived under a barbaric Tyrant for decades.

Casting a vote means dick, hear? The US policies to remove Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad, have created a vacuum of power being exploited by the Islamic state, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt as well as two rival sects eager to settle ancient scores and the mouth breathers here want more US interference. Insanity.

Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

Originally Posted by Montecresto

Casting a vote means dick, hear? The US policies to remove Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad, have created a vacuum of power being exploited by the Islamic state, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt as well as two rival sects eager to settle ancient scores and the mouth breathers here want more US interference. Insanity.

What... does this have to do with my post?

Peace is a lie. There is only Passion. Through Passion I gain Strength. Through Strength I gain Power. Through Power I gain Victory. Through Victory my chains are Broken. The Force shall free me.

Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

Originally Posted by Hatuey

Say what you want about Israel playing the US for a ****ing fool while calling itself our ally? I bet you're the type of guy who would find out that his best friend is ****ing his wife and takes it out on the woman. That's exactly what is happening here. You're ignoring the fact that Obama has been in the picture for 6 years, while Israel has been pretending to be our ally for 28. While Obama doesn't get off lightly because he's agreed to keep this quiet for 7 years which is far too long for my like. Not once in 28 years did Israel even consider the possibility of what would happen if it encouraged us to deny others nuclear weapons, while the US turned a blind eye to Israel's own actions.

Obama played himself as the Fool. He only has himself to blame.

The typical narcissist thought his influence extended out past the borders of his own inflated self worth when he tried to interfere in the IsraelI elections.

When the Israeli people basically told him to pound sand he reacted by acting like a wounded insolent child and undermined not only the safety of the Conservative Israeli but ALL ISRAELIS.

And why would Israel be concerned about a decades old closely held secret between them and their No# 1 Ally ?

I'm sure they THOUGHT they were dealing with a adult, with a leader, with someone who was mature enough not to allow his wounded pride to dictate his decisions.

Well now they know what Conservatives have known fot the last 6 years.

Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

Originally Posted by Hatuey

Yeah, and thanks to Israel's bull**** and hush-hush nature, we'd be bluffing our way through any sanctions too. Again Travis, you've ignored that Israel's deliberate ambiguity (that's their actual policy, not flowery language) while pushing for everyone else to abide with standards it doesn't follow on nuclear power is the problem.

Israel isn't a part of the NPT. It doesn't have to follow those guidelines. However it has every right to make sure that others that ARE signatory to the NPT DO follow it.

I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer. ~ Kal'Stang

Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

Originally Posted by Montecresto

Casting a vote means dick, hear? The US policies to remove Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad, have created a vacuum of power being exploited by the Islamic state, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt as well as two rival sects eager to settle ancient scores and the mouth breathers here want more US interference. Insanity.

wrong.. removing Saddam did NOT leave a vacuum....

Obama left a vacuum by leaving without a SOFA..we had won the war.. but Obama was not happy with that victory so he made sure to turn into a nightmare