Rod_outbak wrote: dont really have a problem with Cat D weapons being heavily restricted; most people dont need the rapid-fire capability.[And I would be able to justify being eligible to possess a CatD if I wanted one]It's not like a semi-auto centre-fire rifle is useful on the range for target work,

At the risk of hijacking the thread, I do disagree with you on the above Rod. There are a number of practical shooting disciplines for which semi autos are useful if not required (3-gun being probably the most popular).

I disagree further in that I can't see any reason to restrict them from people that want nothing more than to enjoy owning and shooting them, just like we used to.

The question of 3-Gun always makes me wonder something.If every gun shop and range in Australia had a petition on the counter, would we have more than 100,000 shooters signing up to demand access to Cat C/D for sporting use?Something like: Semi-auto centrefire rifles with ten-round mag restrictions held under the same requirements as handguns, only allowed to be used at approved ranges. I personally have zero interest in 3-Gun but I would certainly sign such a petition so others can enjoy it.

i'm not trying to rain on your parade or put ya down ecobogan, but why are you thinking of this type of action ? me personally i think 22 lr semi auto's should be available to those who want them. i'm also of the belief that you make the first shot count. i know it's not a perfect world, sometimes you do get a bad shot, and need a quick follow up. maybe i'm a fudd, but unless your on the land culling large numbers, or a professional , their isn't a real need for semi auto's . except to say it's fun. pre port arthur a mate of mine had a m1 carbine and sks and it was fun having a blast. a well trained enfeild shooter or a slick old lever gun could probably place accurate shots just as quickly anyway JMHO

bigrich wrote:i'm not trying to rain on your parade or put ya down ecobogan, but why are you thinking of this type of action ? me personally i think 22 lr semi auto's should be available to those who want them. i'm also of the belief that you make the first shot count. i know it's not a perfect world, sometimes you do get a bad shot, and need a quick follow up. maybe i'm a fudd, but unless your on the land culling large numbers, or a professional , their isn't a real need for semi auto's . except to say it's fun. pre port arthur a mate of mine had a m1 carbine and sks and it was fun having a blast. a well trained enfeild shooter or a slick old lever gun could probably place accurate shots just as quickly anyway JMHO

It's nothing to do with whether you need a second shot, it's about having the ability to take an immediate follow-up shot if it's required.Semi-auto is the most humane way to hunt for that reason.If somebody finds they actually hunt differently because they have a semi-auto that's their personal problem, it does not automatically apply to everybody else.And it should never be about "need". We need air, we need water, and we need an occasional feed. Everything else is just stuff we want.There is nothing wrong with somebody simply wanting to own and use a semi-auto if they wish to.

bigrich wrote:i'm not trying to rain on your parade or put ya down ecobogan, but why are you thinking of this type of action ? me personally i think 22 lr semi auto's should be available to those who want them. i'm also of the belief that you make the first shot count. i know it's not a perfect world, sometimes you do get a bad shot, and need a quick follow up. maybe i'm a fudd, but unless your on the land culling large numbers, or a professional , their isn't a real need for semi auto's . except to say it's fun. pre port arthur a mate of mine had a m1 carbine and sks and it was fun having a blast. a well trained enfeild shooter or a slick old lever gun could probably place accurate shots just as quickly anyway JMHO

It's nothing to do with whether you need a second shot, it's about having the ability to take an immediate follow-up shot if it's required.Semi-auto is the most humane way to hunt for that reason.If somebody finds they actually hunt differently because they have a semi-auto that's their personal problem, it does not automatically apply to everybody else.And it should never be about "need". We need air, we need water, and we need an occasional feed. Everything else is just stuff we want.There is nothing wrong with somebody simply wanting to own and use a semi-auto if they wish to.

hey blade, just trying to get my head around it i suppose. need and want are two different things yeh. i just rationalise it differently i guess. that;s not to say i wouldn't mind a browning BLR

bigrich wrote: hey blade, just trying to get my head around it i suppose. need and want are two different things yeh. i just rationalise it differently i guess. that;s not to say i wouldn't mind a browning BLR

I am touchy on the "need" clause after having to write to firearms explaining why their definitions of "need" are focused purely on the end result of the bullet, and totally ignore the simple pleasure of the shooting of the firearm