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Topic: Buying for the frame? (Read 1318 times)

In the thread on Davidson glass bowls, Mr Vaseline Glass said he had considerewd bidding on the bowls in question -

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Primarily to get the nice frame.

:shock: which set me wondering :?

At Dagfields last weekend I saw a lovely vaseline single epergne flute in a silver-coloured (but not silver, I think) frame. I snatched it up, but was sorry to see the flute had been broken and glued below the rigaree, just above the frame :cry: It still looked very beautiful from a distance, and I was tempted, but felt (sadly) that it was too damaged, even for me! :roll:

However, it was only £10, and following Mr Vaseline Glass's comment I am wondering if I should have bought it anyway and looked around for a replacement flute! I do often look at single flutes when they appear on ebay and think how nice they would look if one could get an appropriate frame to hold them.

What do people think? Should I have bought it? Would £10 be a reasonable price for the frame? Even though it wasn't silver? :?

I am always on the lookout for frames for marmalades, brides baskets, pickle castors, etc. A lot of times they are chromium nickle, not even old silverplate. seldom, if ever, find silver. However, consider this:A $10 marmalade frame, married to a nice colored glass victorian marmalade bowl ($50-70) can be put together and sold for $125-150, depending on how good the "marriage" looks. I have bought a $30 pickle castor jar and a frame for $50, and sold it for $150-300. I have even bought a pickle castor with a clear jar for $75 and replaced the jar with a colored jar. Brides basket frames are a bit more expensive, even silverplate. Old victorian ones usually go for $100-150, but marry a nice ornate bowl to it, and it will almost double in value. I don't have enough access to epergne flutes to try to assemble one that all horns match, so have never tried to do it. Whenever I can marry a piece of metal to a piece of glass (and the combination looks good together), it always increases the value over what I have in the individual parts. Sometimes they are too nice to sell, sometimes I let them go to a new home.Mr. Vaseline Glass

LeniToday, I got a bowl in the mail that I bought specifically because I thought it would fit nice in a silverplate bowl that I bought 3 weeks ago. The glass bowl is unmarked, but has a long ping ring to it, has a polished pontil on the underside, and closely matches a picture in the reference books of the pattern shapes made by Steuben as blanks for Hawkes (the cutting firm). If it is not Steuben, it is Pairpoint. The frame is James Tufts, a very popular name in silverplate. The glass fits almost perfectly, sitting about 1/4" off the bottom. http://www.vaselineglass.org/marriage1.jpgHere is the completed marriage:http://www.vaselineglass.org/marriage2.jpg

This last one is not really a marriage, but just a stand that I built for a frigger salt spoon I bought at the Glass Faire in May, 2004.The stand is purple heart wood. The spoon is 4" long.As you can see from the blacklight photo, the entire shaft is vaseline/uranium, with non-reactive blue and red threaded glass over the outside of the shaft. It is topped with a milk glass ball. I think it sets off the spoon as a nice display.http://www.vaselineglass.org/marriage7.jpg

Christine, do you remember this? Well, you'll never believe it! You went and looked for me but didn't find it, I went again and didn't find it - twice! And then last weekend when I was up there again I just popped in for a quick look around, and - http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2396

It's been cleaned up and re-glued and looks as good as new. You don't notice the break now it's been properly repaired, as it's just under the rigaree. And I think the frame really is silver. It has hallmarks, but they are too worn to read.