I dunno if it's a bug or what, but there is nearly no difference between any of the tone stack amps.

Does anyone else have this issue?

Nick

Jan 21 2015, 11:53 AM

QUOTE (LejonBrames @ Jan 18 2015, 09:48 PM)

I dunno if it's a bug or what, but there is nearly no difference between any of the tone stack amps.

Does anyone else have this issue?

Hello LejonBrames,

I appreciate that the difference could be a bit subtle, but if one had the amps in question lined up to play with, I think the differences would be about the same.

The 'Prince tone' and 'AC-30' are quite different to the 'Twin Verb and Bass-man' which model two amps from the same family.

Same thing with the 'JMC-800' and the '2000 lead' who share the same heritage.

You can customise the tones of each by switching the cabinets and adding contour to the sound as well as dealing in as much bass, middle and high end you want.

Best Regards,

Nick

LejonBrames

Feb 2 2015, 11:08 PM

QUOTE (Nick@DontCrack @ Jan 21 2015, 11:53 AM)

Hello LejonBrames,

I appreciate that the difference could be a bit subtle, but if one had the amps in question lined up to play with, I think the differences would be about the same.

The 'Prince tone' and 'AC-30' are quite different to the 'Twin Verb and Bass-man' which model two amps from the same family.

Same thing with the 'JMC-800' and the '2000 lead' who share the same heritage.

You can customise the tones of each by switching the cabinets and adding contour to the sound as well as dealing in as much bass, middle and high end you want.

Best Regards,

Nick

What does the 'contour' switch do, and what does 'OFF' do?

OFF is still distorting the signal, and my harmonic analyzer shows no harmonic difference between the models, and only the EQ curve changes.

Nick

Feb 3 2015, 11:51 AM

QUOTE (LejonBrames @ Feb 2 2015, 11:08 PM)

What does the 'contour' switch do, and what does 'OFF' do?

OFF is still distorting the signal, and my harmonic analyzer shows no harmonic difference between the models, and only the EQ curve changes.

Hello LejonBrames,

CONTOUR - Switches on extra tone-shaping for added control. ( basically it switches in a different response curve that adds different frequencies )

Your harmonic analyzer shows no harmonic difference between the models, but your ears should tell you a different story. As I said there are subtle differences between the models selected that you can further change with the bass, middle, and treble to get the tone that suits your song.

That harmonic analyzer would show something very similar if you had all the amps at your disposition to test out as the heads and cabinets would show different EQ responses.

OFF means the tonestack is not active, like a bypass, but you can still play with the tone controls. If it distorts maybe the incoming level is too high?

Best Regards,

Nick

LejonBrames

Feb 11 2015, 08:13 AM

QUOTE (Nick@DontCrack @ Feb 3 2015, 11:51 AM)

Hello LejonBrames,

CONTOUR - Switches on extra tone-shaping for added control. ( basically it switches in a different response curve that adds different frequencies )

Your harmonic analyzer shows no harmonic difference between the models, but your ears should tell you a different story. As I said there are subtle differences between the models selected that you can further change with the bass, middle, and treble to get the tone that suits your song.

That harmonic analyzer would show something very similar if you had all the amps at your disposition to test out as the heads and cabinets would show different EQ responses.

OFF means the tonestack is not active, like a bypass, but you can still play with the tone controls. If it distorts maybe the incoming level is too high?

Best Regards,

Nick

Nope, I follow proper gain-staging procedure. The Off sounds like an amp.

This plugin seems to have some bugs. As I said, my ears really tell me no difference between these amps.

LejonBrames

Sep 8 2015, 07:07 AM

I'm gonna go ahead and bump this, both for the sake of potential customers and for the developers.

For potential customers, this specific amp is the most useless of all the P&M amps. You can get more tones out the of the 4 other amps despite this one claiming to have 6 or whatever models. Move along to the Magic Queen or British tone, because this specific amp will completely disappoint you. There is MINIMAL variation between the alleged 'models'

For the Devs, The 'OFF' position is still adding in distortion. THIS PLUGIN DOES NOT WORK. There are clearly LOTS of things wrong with it, as described above, and by the fact that the OFF position is also an amp. Please fix this, and add some damn variation between the models.

lawkmlaw

Jan 13 2016, 09:40 AM

QUOTE (LejonBrames @ Jan 18 2015, 10:48 PM)

I dunno if it's a bug or what, but there is nearly no difference between any of the tone stack amps.

Does anyone else have this issue?

yeah, same

LejonBrames

Jan 17 2016, 08:53 PM

QUOTE (lawkmlaw @ Jan 13 2016, 09:40 AM)

yeah, same

Thank you. Hopefully this particular plug will get some much needed attention, and can match upto the rest of this great suite of plugs

StateOfEpicicity

Feb 4 2016, 03:42 PM

I've found the same problem, where the different models were completely identical. The only way I've found to access the different tones was to scroll through the factory presets then alter the settings to taste. I'm running Plug & Mix VSTs through Reaper 64-bit on a Windows 10 PC, if that helps. I must say that all of the Plug & Mix amp models are really enjoyable to my ears, especially the American Tweed, for my two cents.

LejonBrames

Mar 26 2016, 08:44 PM

QUOTE (StateOfEpicicity @ Feb 4 2016, 04:42 PM)

I've found the same problem, where the different models were completely identical. The only way I've found to access the different tones was to scroll through the factory presets then alter the settings to taste. I'm running Plug & Mix VSTs through Reaper 64-bit on a Windows 10 PC, if that helps. I must say that all of the Plug & Mix amp models are really enjoyable to my ears, especially the American Tweed, for my two cents.

Thanks for the tip! I will try it!

cosmonaut

Dec 7 2016, 06:30 AM

Tonestack is working fine for me, all the amps sound as they should. Using 64bit VST / Reaper 64bit / Win 7 Pro 64bit. Maybe they've fixed the bug?

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