hello all,i have not posted in a long time because I stopped doing the blood type diet. I am an O non secretor and I have been drinking coffee, milk and all the grains I want for the last year. Amazingly enough, I really don't feel bad at all.

I have decided that probably I need to go back to doing D'Adamo's diet again for various reasons - basically because it seems to make sense.

I have a real problem with very very dark circles under my eyes - way darker than I should have at my age of 36. I am hoping that taking out the wheat/coffee and dairy will help. Has anyone seen improvement with the diet? I know it is vain but I hate wearing make up and want to stop. Also - my skin is sort of blotchy too - with occasional acne but not too bad.

nope this is a sign of bad detox..cytochrom 450 is layed into your tissues; therefore your idea to come back to Peters' great gift is more than resonable.I'd like to ask you to take a good aminoacid supp.ther's a goodone of Solgar's called aminos'75then some milkthistle , or fucus and or stingingnettle, and of course some dandelion leaf extract.Please cut back all the grains as much as you are able to and go for your normal O-nonnie diet and loads of water ....good luck and please let us know your improvements

I remember when I gave up dairy and coffee and wheat that my under eye circles really started to go away. I had a sneaky suscpicion that I should go back to doing D'Adamo's diet. The problem I have with the diet is that it is so restrictive and it makes food such an issue. I have finally allowed myself to enjoy sugars etc. again and I have to say that I don't have any side affects - just the under eye circles. I have good energy in the day, i work out alot and I eat whatever I want. But in the back of my mind, i wonder if Dr. D holds the secret to good health.

Can you tell me more about the detoxing or lack of that my body is not doing? It might help motivate me to do the diet again

The dark circles are an indication the the elimination system is overloaded... If you continue to maintain this condition, the body will store the extra garbage anywhere else it can, choosing the least problematic areas first, but then putting it into joints, fat, bones, etc... The adage "You are what you eat" is really true... If you eat things that you shouldn't, the body will become overwhelmed and deteriorate. You may not feel it for some time, but then the recovery will be much more difficult and time consuming. You can be as compliant as you deem necessary, but your body is asking you to be more compliant. It will continue to ask more aggressively if you don't act soon.

for most it is a sign of intolerances toward avoids and allergies, too.

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the life-long dark circles under my eyes went away after a change in diet! As an 0+ secretor I had eliminated wheat when I started the Blood Type Diet five years ago. When I eliminated all grains and starches last March the dark circles went away miraculously.

You can do it - but then again I think part of it is that you mentally have to be ready to follow this BTD lifestyle. I have times when I stray away and go back to my old ways of eating - but my body always tells me to get back to what it needs. And if I'm in a good mental state about it and ok with the fact that I need to plan for extra time for my meals and I just do it along with excercising then everything really is just fine. And my husband doesn't really follow much of the BTD at all - but it's interesting because he knows what I should avoid and will gently get after me when I reach for comfort foods with wheat or corn or whatever he knows I shouldn't eat. So, it's interesting - even though he's not into the diet for himself like I wish he would be he knows what foods I do and don't do well with and will remind me sometimes.

wow - very interesting. I had not thought of the body in this way. I think alot of physical effects are from stress and the attitude of a person to life.

How on earth do you guys do this diet without serious difficulties? Also - I think my family members think it is mad.

I am going to ease in slowly and see how I feel.

The gritty details actually really help motivate me.

Hello suzedgar-I remember you and have wondered what happened and now I know. Welcome back.

How do we do this diet without difficulties? Baby steps...one meal at a time...one day at a time...one week at a time...one month at a time...until it becomes a way of life. Only you can make yourself as healthy as you yourself want to be.

Lots of reading of testimonials on here and loads of good information.

Family thinks it is mad...mine too. I just plug away though and remember how I felt and looked before BTD which is over 4 years ago now. When you were on I didn't know my secretor status. Tougher for us royalties.

This forum is a godsend for any of us on BTD. It has kept me going and I have made many friends(family) on here. Do not hesitate to ask questions as someone is always willing to give a helping hand or lend an ear.

Hoping to hear more from you on here more often.

Debra

"Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves." C.G. Jung"

How on earth do you guys do this diet without serious difficulties? Also - I think my family members think it is mad.

Pain is a powerful motivator... My body was screaming at me for 20 years, but I couldn't find a doctor (medical practitioner) that was able to help significantly. Finally, I got in contact with someone who helped and from there someone recommended this diet. My body still screams too much, but I am getting healthier and learning sooo much.

My family first thought I was totally nuts. Now that they see the difference, and my mother-in-law's ND recommended that she follow it, the facade is cracking. I would like them to follow it, but if they don't, it is their loss...

suze... welcome back home I just wanted to ask you to have an eye onto my rrrooostersis Debra she also is an O-nonnie and it's fun to see and smell her bruzeling even early in the morning, when my AB stomach gets cramps only from the smell of meat ..... but she is soooo right, dont' hear of the comments of others, Debra is one of themost interessants O nonnies because she stays almost compliant to herselve; so far I think she might help you lots ....

Joe, know that from myselve too, but see one thingy too, the AB's are prone to get musclespasmes by themselves, why...because we arent' aware at that moment how contracted we are, the fear of not getting all in our minds, or just getting lost anywhere because of overloadings with too much of...is it that interesting...must that be accumulated too if we loose the fear in not being capable to know or act in whatsoever..., we'll automatically relax instantly

btw... about cytochrom 450...please gooooooogle it ....I guess it would be too much in teutonic language or even french

wow - very interesting. I had not thought of the body in this way. I think alot of physical effects are from stress and the attitude of a person to life.

How on earth do you guys do this diet without serious difficulties? Also - I think my family members think it is mad.

I agree with your first statement, Suze, about a lot of physical effects are from stress and our attitudes to life. However, without the optimal raw materials for healing and building healthy bodies, no amount of right attitude will build health.

How do we do this without serious difficulties? In my case it was because the Serious Difficulties came when I was not eating for my blood type. Major reality check for me, developing a life threatening illness! Once I started eating, not just for my blood type, but especially for my Non-secretor bloodtype, the improvements were miraculous.

It may be that you are still young enough that you haven't had a major health breakdown yet. I was the kind of person who didn't make changes in my diet until I was forced to, and I WAS forced to, or die.

We do this without serious difficulties in the same way that you drive a car or balance your checkbook. When we learn to do it through practice, it becomes easy and natural, and for those of us who have been given another chance at life because of it, it becomes thrilling, exciting and wonderful. I love the BTD! It's no sacrifice or limitation at all for me. Feeling healthy is awesome!

Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.Let me not pass you by in quest of some rare and perfect tomorrow.~Mary Jean Irion

You are all so nice and helpful - I really appreciate all the support.

I guess - this is my problem and forgive me - I feel like a bit awful posting this here but am very very open to be corrected. I started the blood type diet many years ago when I was suffering from chronic fatigue and terrible muscle pain. I had immediate relief from the diet but it did not last. The pain continued until I found Dr. John Sarno 2 years ago who completely healed me from all the back pain. If anyone is suffering from fibromyalgia or any kind of pain in legs/back etc. - Sarno is your man. I discovered that the pain comes from a distraction created by the brain. Sarno's theory(and I am proof it works) is that the brain will use any part of the body to distract you away from uncomfortable emotions. His "cure" involves retraining the brain to stop doing it. I no longer have any fatigue/any pain of any sort and even my digestive problems/constipation and skin break outs have gone away.

Sarno believes that all diets act as very poweful placebos - they work for a while but then the pain/allergies/asthma/digestive issues eventually come back - why - because they are caused by the brain.

So - this leaves me in a quandary with the blood type diet. I have read numerous messages where people talk about their allergies/asthma or back pain etc. being helped by the diet - but I know for a fact that these have been totally cured by Sarno's work.

I feel awful posting this - because a small part of me still thinks there must be something in the blood type diet. Dr D is a very smart man and is an expert in biochemistry.

I also find it difficult to believe the entire theory of how blood types changed - why didn't the O people who became As die off completely?

I wonder how many people just accept the theory blindly and barely question it. It is quite an extreme theory. Have you guys looked into the details and are you totally comfortable that this isn't just an enormous placebo affect? Do you really know?

This is my dilemma really. I certainly don't want to offend anyone but would love to know your thoughts.

The other issue I have is that following this stringent diet makes one really very strange about food and eating. It is not supposed to be an obssession and I remember when i did the diet before it was very obsessive - examing every single thing one eats is very odd. What about all those thousands of people who eat eveyrthing and dont' seem to have any of these health problems?

I wonder if everyone who does this diet is quite a highly strung person who worries alot. I know I fit that description. According to Sarno, this is the kind of person who has the health problems - all created by an overload of emotions in the brain

A lot of people on this Forum swear by Sarno. His approach to mind/body connection makes sense! It doesn't have to be an either/or kind of choice. Why not give the body the very best nutrition for your own bloodtype, and still take responsibility for healing your own emotional/mental traps that lock you into your pain and suffering.

Sounds like a great combo to me!

Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.Let me not pass you by in quest of some rare and perfect tomorrow.~Mary Jean Irion

Victoria,I like that suggestion - and that is sort of where I am going. However, i just have this awful sneaky suspicion that this could all be conditioning of the body. If you think you are going to react to a food, you will.

6 months ago, I decided to start eating everything again. At the beginning, my body reacted and then it stopped after a while. The hives went away, the gas and constipation etc. went away. How could that be?

WE, the nonnies do have a bit another chemistry as the secretors....that means we arereally a bit sur les bords because you, as being an O nonnie, stress and emotional thingies are going directly onto your body, creating pains;we, the AB's are similar, but we have the ability to go for those pains and releasing them by our toughy mental forces; and here I am not alone with this suggestion similar to our consoeur and frères the B's.... that won't mean that autosuggestions won'twork for you too, but very often the sp/sj style found in the O's, works different from the nt-nf-style. There are some compounds we call them hysterical processes going against their own personality (hope I am able to explain it right ) and nope...sorry here is another freudian incorrectness because, as Sarno writes in his books, there is no second gain effect or similar; because everybody is suffering his/her pains until !!!! But we do have problems, as before to, to admit that there's unconsciousness feelings because we have been trained that we arent' allowed to have such feelings!!!Almost the bad and agressive feelings are under that option to *delete* !!!If we become more and more conscious, that we are alltimes manipulated or invited to play roles, and if we give that try to stop playing those roles in form of a non-identifications to such inviters we get more and more safe and healthy inremembering who we are.....and what we are not!But at first I've to admit and give my accordance to such suggestions.That is the very first step to get healthier.....In the book *the devided mind* he writes that clearly about " mind over pains"what is also clearly admitted since decades here in psychotherapies and even psychatric disorders.If you try to get this in a manifest form, for example op's, it means: the person mostly needs to feel her/himself by this act....nothing else.....instead of recognizing it, it becomes merely the outlook for a healthprotecting act; but in truth it is a form ofviolating the body.I don't speak here from op's wich are saving lifes or similar: the best example here am I myselve: I wrote once from *frozy's kiss* my left shoulder became frozen...the physioth. tried to make me believe that I've to go for an op to get off this verypainful situation...hmmm didn't believed him, didnt' go for ( I know this poor guy missed his recompense of the shnipple-doc ) but infact my private situation was that desolate, instead of acting wisely and solving those problems, I somatisized that with my left frozen shoulder...the leftside stands for our feelings....isn't that obvious ... pppffftttt... I see the rotten tomatoes coming ;)

truly yours Isa

pst..pst...page 104 in *the devided mind*....the pressures of life yep...yep..yep....!!!!!!

Isa,From my understanding, you are a supporter of Sarno's work. So - how do you reconcile his theories with D'Adamos. How have you improved from doing the diet? What have you seen get better?thanks v. much

yup..I just love Sarnos' books; but in several statements I do find the enneagram..but all in one person and it's true, depends on what is lived at this moment...but foods are capable to trigger certain psychic disorders and here it should be done (knittings ) a pond to that thema !!

It is sometimes very difficult to detect the right point; is it a foodreaction or is it a psychosomatic response to ... or even both..... I'd like to tell you...mostly it might be both.(viva that I can work with my Vegatester )

Me, I improved lots because after my *breakdown* in 1999 as described a burn out, I found myselve with massive pains, and yesss a part of them were done by my supressed anger on my ex-partner,but at the other hand, nowbody knew that I was (am) a non-secretor and also blessed with several foodintolerances, even named as beneficial foods, I can't tolerate f.ex. lactose,nor gluten or gliadin....so my so called *hyserical bla-bla's* werent' at all hysterical but foodintolerances!!! But nobody did anytests' with me, just labering a diagnose out for fun....thanks again those bloody ignorants!!Since I am eating mostly compliant for my bloodtype, no pains anymore, no moodswings, no panicattacs, no diarrhes, no cramps, and since I stopped drinking café, no hypoglycemia anymore ooo what a wunneful feeling , hey Madl I feel newborn But must be honest, the BTD is my second wheel...normally I am at home also in psychotherapies and I know how it *should* work; but when being selfconcerned, you might see all in another light Thatswhy I begun a profunder work with and on BTD, because not all is psychosomatic, it might be also somatopsychic ....or just a somatic reaction on.....I don't think that BTD is only a tool to go against psychosomatic disorders, for me it is bloodtypespecifique nutrition with all of its compounds to maintain a healthy life

they can eat all that is available and not get sick! (or at least think they re very healthy and can get away with anything)

you might just fit into that lucky category, even if thanks to Dr D s work you now know you re a nonnie!!pray tell me how else you would have found out about secretor status, had it not been for Dr Ds amazing work?

''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98DNA mt/Haplo H; Y-chrom/J2(M172);ESTJThe harder you are on yourself, the easier life will be on you!

yup, the same for me, I can eat sugar but my reaction comes timereleased .....it depends of the amounts and the time when you eat those foods; and then baddabangg, the reaction appears.....I see that sometimes in my work with this tester, when the *normal* outbursts of otherreaction are appearing (as described in LR4YT or the encyclop), the so called *very individual* symptomes, or even no-symtomes but see also this form of eating should also be concidered to bea preventive work....

I always must smile when hearing from colleagues that allergies might be zapped or whatsoever therapied just away...no way, even when trying to desensibilize, it won't work for the whole life, it will come out onto another point.... ....the so called allergies are the impossibilities from your bodystructure to work with the given stuff. So better not to introduce such foods to often.

For me it was sacrosanct to have my potty of café every day....I didn't acknowledged that this stuff seems a real no-no- for us, never ever I'd give up this fine drink he-he-heee since some weeks not one cup of this stuff and dearle I feel great, no more pains on my left side (I couln't agree that it blocks the pancreatic activities) and a bit of weightloss too.OmG...I am just knitting the gloriole for our doc

sorry forgot to mention something, you won't see or remark it now, but please go once in your life to a therapist wich works with a similar tester like Vega, I think it's named Scio in your country, and see the results...it is more than amazing how Peteris right with his suggestions in LR4YT....and that it was what convinced my accordingness to that form of eating ......