Paleo Magazine Radio

Paleo Magazine Radio brings you Paleo nutrition, exercise, and lifestyle perspectives from both the experts and the everyday. PMR is brought to you by Paleo Magazine, the only print magazine dedicated to the Paleo lifestyle, and is hosted by Ashleigh VanHouten.

On today's episode we're joined by three esteemed Paleo cookbook authors, who are also health and wellness experts: Mickey Trescott, author of The Autoimmune Paleo Cookbook, Angie Alt, author of The Alternative Autoimmune Cookbook, as well as co-author, along with Mickey, of The Autoimmune Wellness Handbook, and Melissa Joulwan, author of Well Fed, Well Fed 2, and the recently released Well Fed Weeknights.

To get to know them better, we wanted to find out three key pieces of information: the last thing they cooked, the last way they moved, and the last book they read. These questions lead to discussion of bacon beef liver pate, beast deadlifts, getting bucked off horses, secret agents in Prague, and suicidal Mennonites.

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Battling an autoimmune disease is almost always a difficult and frustrating situation.

From mysterious symptoms, to difficulties getting a diagnosis, to treatment plans that offer little hope for a cure, it's no wonder people end up feeling broken and discouraged by the process.

But with five autoimmune disease between the two of them, Nutritional Therapy Practitioners and cookbook authors Mickey Trescott and Angie Alt have developed a plan for not only overcoming autoimmune disease, but for creating a lifestyle that is centered on total wellness of the body, mind, and spirit.

On today's show we're joined by both Mickey and Angie to discuss:

Their own personal battles with autoimmune disease.

How the appearance of health can be misleading.

Transitioning out of veganism.

Sneaky symptoms of autoimmune disfunction.

The basics of the Autoimmune protocol.

Their favorite AIP recipes.

Sharpening your intuition.

The supplement graveyard.

Why anyone with an interest in health will benefit from reading their new book, The Autoimmune Wellness Handbook.

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The fact that gluten is bad is one of the pillars of Paleo and any Paleo person worth their sea salt knows that hunter gatherers didn't eat grains and that of all the grains, gluten containing ones, like wheat and rye, are the worst.

But what if grain brain and wheat belly got it wrong? What if Paleo man did consume cereal grasses and what if there were actually benefits to eating grains?

If you're feeling skeptical right now, we don't blame you, when our Editor in Chief Cain Credicott forwarded the contact information for Dr. John Douillard, author of Eat Wheat, we thought that this had to be a hoax, but after talking to Dr. John, we realized that his approach towards consuming grains has a lot more in common with Paleo than we initially thought, and that it might not be a crazy idea after all.

In our conversation we discuss:

The 400 billion pounds of toxic chemicals that might be the root cause of our digestive health issues.

How to reboot your digestive system.

How digestive irritants like lectins may actually help to detoxify your digestive system.

The right time of year to eat wheat.

Which ancient grains are the best.

What you can do to bring bread back into your life without compromising your health.

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When Doctor Polina Sayess attended the 2012 Ancestral Health Symposium in Boston Massachusetts, she immediately wondered how many other physicians were in attendance.

She reached out to the event organizers who helped set up an informal meet and greet outside the conference hall and in that moment, the Physicians for Ancestral Health organization was formed.

The group, made up of practicing physicians, medical students, and residents from a wide range of specialties, share information online through their Physicians for Ancestral Health Facebook group and in person at their very own annual conference.

This year's event will be held Thursday, January 19th through Saturday, January 21st in Miami Florida, and Tony will be there covering the show for Paleo Magazine as well as presenting on the subject of media and content creation for Health professionals.

On today's Paleo Radio Bite, we talk to Dr. Sayess about:

Her experiences working as a family physician.

How Ancestral Health has informed her practice.

The limited education in nutrition most practitioners receive.

How both patients and practitioners benefit from having a physician who is Ancestrally minded.

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It is thought that Hippocrates, the father of modern medicine once said that "all disease begins in the gut" and while we can't exactly prove that Hippocrates actually said that, modern science has begun to discover that whoever said it was right!

When we take in food, or the evolutionarily novel food-like substances sold at most restaurants and grocery stores, an entire cascade of reactions, absorptions, and outcomes occur. If we are eating biologically appropriate foods, our body will break then down, separate essential nutrients, feed the microbiome, nourish, rebuild, and repair our body, and eventually eliminate the waste products. But, If we go for the food-like substances,we disrupt vital tissues, irritate the immune system, and ultimately create disease.

On today's episode of Paleo Magazine Radio, we have an incredible conversation with someone who works on the front lines of this battle between our bodies and the ersatz foodstuffs that make up much of our diet, his name is Dr. Chad Larson and he's a trained chiropractor who also works for Cyrex labs, a clinical testing laboratory that provides high quality testing services for clinicians.

Cyrex labs assays can help detect leaky gut, gluten and other protein sensitivities, autoimmune and pathogen reactivity, and even blood-brain barrier permeability.

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In the Outside Magazine article "The Workout Time Forgot", world-renowned movement expert Erwan Le Corre said that "We live like zoo animals!" and that we are essentially wild creatures ill-suited to desk jobs and processed foods.

He says that "We have become divorced from nature, trapped in colorless boxes,"and that "We have lost our adaptability, and it's threatening our health and longevity."

We all spend more than enough time in boxes, sedentary, motionless, but even when we know the benefit of getting up, going outside, and moving our bodies, getting out of the box can be difficult and potentially fraught if you are stiff, tight, imbalanced, and out of shape.

This is where Personal trainers, or more specifically, movement coaches come in.

On today's Paleo Radio Bite we talk to movement coach Jenn Pilotti, owner of a private training studio in Carmel, California.

In our conversation we discuss:

Her favorite functional movements.

Overcoming movement fears.

The difference between kick-ups, frogger's, and other handstand progressions.

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Imagine that you haven't been feeling well. Imagine that you go to the doctor, and after they review your symptoms they tell you that there is some very bad news. Imagine that you are told that you have an incurable illness.

What do you do?

Frankly, we don't think there is any "right" response to this kind of news. It's presumptuous and disrespectful to assume that we know what is good and right for someone else. Nevertheless, it’s hard not to be inspired by stories that suggest we have a choice.

A choice to give in or fight on

A choice to face darkness in the search of light

A choice to live, or die.

After being diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis, an autoimmune condition in which the immune system attacks nerve cells causing pain and other debilitating symptoms, Natalie Shultz was ready to make her choice, and in our conversation we discuss:

How she discovered that she had MS.

What MS is, what causes it, and how it can be controlled.

The limitations of conventional treatment options.

How the Wahl's protocol changed her life.

Why cheating on her diet isn't an option and how she channeled her desire to help others into the creation of the world's healthiest cups and water bottles.

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Life might give us lemons, but we don't always get to making lemonade right away. This is because, unlike lemonade, adding sugar to bitter events only provides a temporary salve with long term consequences.

This was the case for Michael Tamez, who after a devastating series of personal tragedies found that his coping mechanism of eating junk food caused him to rapidly become overweight and gave him severe sleep apnea, high blood pressure, and gum disease too.

On today's Paleo Radio Bite, we talk to Michael about how he turned all of this around and transformed the dysfunctional relationship he had to food, and transformed his lifestyle, health, and body in the process.

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One thing we've noticed working in the health and wellness industry is that people often assume that we've always had it all together.

They assume we've always eaten Paleo, they assume we've always worked out, and they assume that we never struggled with staying fit. Of course, nothing could be further from the truth. We do this work because of the challenges we faced, not because we lacked them.

That's why it was so exciting to finally talk to Melissa Joulwan. Fashionable, fit, and successful, Mel looks like she's always "had it all together" too, but as you'll soon find out, her early struggles, numerous as they were, were the very things that forged her into the person she is today.

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Do you ever feel like you're doing all the right things but you're still not getting results?

We've seen many people working out hard, eating clean, and still having trouble shaking excess body fat. Other times they are tired and lack energy, but in either case, everything looks good, that is until you look under the hood.

As a functional diagnostic nutrition practitioner Mike Ritter does just that, and in our conversation today, we discuss the things he finds, and how he fixes them.

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Matt is widely known in the Paleo community as one half of the dynamic Paleo Parent's duo, but after writing multiple best-selling books, creating an uber popular blog, and producing blockbuster podcasts, he and his wife Stacy decided they wanted to get Real.

Their new website, RealEverything.com, is dedicated to real talk, real food, and real life, and for Matt, this meant exploring his boundless search for knowledge. Matt's new podcast, Thirsty Brain with Matt McCary, explores everything from the history of zombies and Julius Caesar to medieval surgical masks and the sleeping habits of ducks.

On today's episode of PMR, Matt joins us for a Paleo-centric preview of Thirsty Brain where we dive deep into the controversial question, "How long did cavemen actually live?"

In our conversation we discuss:

The important differences between lifespan and life expectancy

What all-cause mortality means

Why wheat made us shorter

How our modern lives have been extended despite our crappy diets

and the reasons why our hunter gatherer ancestors really did die young, but spoiler alert, it had nothing to do with diet.

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Growing up, Ben Phelps turned to food to deal with stress, depression, and anxiety. He wanted to get healthy for his family and their future, but he lacked confidence because all of his previous efforts to lose weight resulted in failure.

When Ben discovered the book The Primal Blueprint however, his hope returned as he saw the simple, practical, and primal approach as something he could literally and figuratively sink his teeth into.

Eating delicious primal foods and working out with a movement-centered approach, Ben lost over 120 pounds and is now following his dream of competing in mixed martial arts and is even studying to be a personal trainer.

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We usually start this show talking about our guests, but before we do that, Tony has a story to share, about himself, that you might not know.

It's a story that starts almost twenty years ago, back to the summer of 1998, the summer before Tony started his freshman year of high school. It was only a few weeks before the start of the school year, and, as is often the case, he had to get a physical before he could complete the enrollment process.

"During the exam, the doctor noticed a lump on my throat and after further investigation, it was determined that I had a potentially cancerous cyst on my thyroid gland. I was only 14 at the time, so I really had no idea what was going on but nevertheless it was decided between my doctor and parents that a partial thyroidectomy to remove the half of my thyroid gland that had the cyst on it, was the ideal course of treatment. I don't remember being scared as much as I felt like I was on a ride that I had no control over. The train had left the station and I was a passenger who had no choice but to go on to the next stop.

I remember going into the hospital and being prepped for surgery, getting the anesthesia, and then everything going black. The next thing I knew I was awake, but I couldn't lift my head and everything above my shoulders was in pain. What felt like seconds to me was actually more than five hours, during which the doctors had my throat completely opened up while they debated what to do.

When they initially opened me up, they sampled a piece of the cyst, but it didn't check out with any known cancers. This uncertainty led to fear and this fear led to them deciding that instead of removing half my thyroid gland, they would remove the whole thing. As lab tests would later prove, I did not in fact have cancer, but once your thyroid gland is gone, it doesn't come back and from that moment on my life was dependent on thyroid replacement medication.

The medication I was given is one of the most commonly prescribed medications in America, it goes by the generic name levothyroxine, or the brand name Synthroid. Every six months I would get blood tests, visit my endocrinologist, and get my prescription renewed. They always tested for TSH, thyroid stimulating hormone, a signaling hormone produced by the pituitary gland that supposedly indicates whether you have too little, too much, or just the right amount of thyroid hormone in your body.

As it was, my TSH levels were on a perpetual roller coaster, and my Synthroid dosage was constantly being changed. I had bags under my eyes, would fall asleep in the middle of the day, and never felt really energetic, but my TSH levels were good and so I soldiered on.

I started working out, began to eat healthy, got into the fitness business, and began my career, always assuming that everyone felt the way that I did. But, when I cured my chronic knee pain with barefoot running and resolved years of binge eating with a paleo diet I started to question the conventional wisdom. I started to wonder what was really going on with my thyroid and began to investigate whether or not synthroid was the best way to treat it.

As I looked deeper into the issue, I discovered that there were entire websites, books, and communities of people online who had many of the issues I did. I learned that natural thyroid replacement made from desiccated pig thyroids used to be the gold standard, but when synthetic thyroid, ie synthroid, was discovered and marketed, the pharmaceutical company that made synthroid went on a mission to discredit natural thyroid replacement, convincing doctors that it was unreliable, inconsistent, and unsafe.

With this knowledge, I demanded that my doctor switch me to a modern natural thyroid replacement called Armour thyroid. He wasn't an endocrinologist and didn't really seem to care too much about what I did, so he wrote me the prescription without resistance and I got my natural thryoid hormone.

On Armour thyroid I began to come back to life again. The bags under my eyes began to go away, the mid afternoon crashes disappeared, and I realized that I didn't have to do cardio for hours a day to maintain my weight.

The realization slowly began to creep into my brain that for all those years I had been a victim and didn't even know it. I wasn't a victim of any single person, doctor, or drug, I was the victim of an entire system that puts profits before people. That's why I was so excited to meet Elle Russ."

Elle found out who Tony was through his work with Paleo Magazine and she reached out to tell us about a book she was working on that dove into the subject of thryoid health, but from a Paleo perspective. She is a thyroid health advocate who had herself suffered from years of medical mismanagement and she too had to learn the hard way.

We had a great conversation about the proper ways to dose natural thryoid hormone the nuances of t3 and t4, and how TSH alone is not a good indicator of thryoid function. We didn't record this conversation, but when Elle's book, the Paleo Thyroid Solution, was finished, we invited her to come on to Paleo Magazine Radio to share her story with you. Little did we realize that she was about to change Tony’s life in a very significant way, but we’ll let you listen to find out how.

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We first saw Jamie Lynn Brazie on Instagram. At the time, Tony was editing Paleo Fitness Magazine (all 6 issues are now available in an ebook compendium btw) and we were promoting the #paleofitnessarmy hashtag. We occasionally searched the hashtag to see what people were posting and on this particular day one of Jamie's photos came up.

She was sitting on the beach in the lotus position, and as a lifelong Floridian, Tony immediately recognized the scenery. They both hailed from a similar part of the state, so when it came time to scout for a cover model for our fourth issue, Tony thought it would be cool to feature a local girl.

Jamie and her husband are now living out in the Pacific Northwest, but she is still bringing that Florida sunshine and sharing the message of health out west.

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After the Ancestral Health Symposium ended, one of the show organizers, J. Brett Smith approached us and said he had organized an impromptu meeting outside the conference hall and he wanted us to bring the audio recorder because what was about to be said was going to rock the Paleo world.

Brett assured us that the assembled group represented a rare gathering of thinkers on the subject of plants. Despite the conventional wisdom that we need to eat a wide variety of fruits and vegetables, this group's controversial position is that fruit's and vegetables are overrated, unnecessary, and maybe even toxic!

According to the eclectic group of PhDs, authors, self-experimenters, and more, plants have been engaging in chemical warfare, which of course sounds like dirty tactics until you consider that they lack the ability to scurry away or fight back with tooth and claw like animals do. So, without these things they've had to develop an entire arsenal of insidious chemicals to ward off predators like us.

We've never really questioned the benefits of eating fruits and vegetables but the evidence presented by this panel was compelling and certainly dims the health halo surrounding plant based diets.

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Today we're continuing our coverage of the 2016 Ancestral Health Symposium with a conversation with Chris Masterjohn of the Daily Lipid, Darryl Edwards, the Fitness Explorer, and Dr. Terry Wahls, creator of the Wahls protocol.

This interview was originally featured as a Facebook live video on the Ancestral Health Foundation's Facebook page, but we wanted to make sure that you, our dedicated PMR audience, got a chance to listen in as well. And since we weren't about to cut any of these interviewees off, today's show is a bit longer than a typical Paleo Radio Bite, so we'll get right to the chase.

It's not often you get three heavy hitters like this all in one show, and I think you're going to learn a lot from hearing what they have to say. Enjoy.

In our conversation we cover a broad range of questions, like:

What is Ancestral health?

What's the best dietary sources of vitamin K?

And whether or not there are any studies to back up our intuitions about organic produce and grass fed meat.

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Last week on the podcast you heard Tony's 2016 Ancestral Health Symposium talk, "Get Up Stand Up: A brief history of sedentarism and why movement is good medicine," and if you didn't, we encourage you to go back and check it out.

If you did, we hope it motivated you to get up out of your chair, to move around, and to start getting healthier by giving your body more of the movement nutrients that it needs. But, as passionate as we are about exercise, we know that it is only one piece of the Paleo, Ancestral health puzzle.

That's why we were so pleased to be able to attend AHS this year and to see such diversity in the talks and poster presentations which covered everything from mind-controlling microbes to adrenal fatigue, and everything in between.

We left the conference feeling informed and inspired, but also a little sad because coming home meant leaving the amazing AHS tribe of attendees, presenters, vendors, and volunteers behind.

We really can't think of a better group of people to spend a weekend with and think it's the people that really make these events so special. And to celebrate those people, we made sure to record conversations with as many of them as we could.

On Today's episode of Paleo Magazine Radio:

We share an uber ride from Denver International Airport into Boulder with AHS co-founder Aaron Blaisdell.

We dive deep into conversations on the show floor.

We stop by the movement sessions

We even take some time to appreciate the beautiful scenery in Boulder, Colorado.

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Tony just got back from the 2016 Ancestral Health Society symposium and has some great audio for you.

During the conference, which was held on the beautiful, Rocky Mountain surrounded, University of Colorado Boulder Campus, Tony recorded a Facebook Live conversation with Dr. Terry Wahls, Chris Masterjohn, and Darryl Edwards. He got a one on one interview with the Paleo Mom Dr. Sarah Ballantyne that reveals her latest fitness hack and also listened in as a group of Plant experts called into question one of the bedrock beliefs of Paleo. And, throughout the conference, captured numerous mini-interviews with a diversity of entrepreneurs, academics, and medical specialists that will give you a chance to really experience what it's like at AHS.

Getting all this audio together is going to require a little bit of editing, so we're going to kick things off with Tony's Ancestral Health Symposium presentation "Get Up, Stand Up: A Brief History of Sedentarism and Why Movement is Good Medicine."

In "Get Up, Stand Up", Tony shares his own personal experience with chronic low back pain, and how it opened his eyes to the dangers of sitting down. If you are interested in finding out the relationship between our movement environment and chronic disease, when chairs were invented, and how sitting might not be the new smoking, but it might be the new McDonald's, stand up, or even better, walk, and give it a listen.

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The 2016 Ancestral Health Symposium is happening right now and in just a couple days Tony's going to be giving a talk called "Get Up, Stand Up: A Brief History of Sedentarism and Why Movement is Good Medicine." If you're at AHS, we'd love for you to check it out, and if you do, be sure to say "Hi", but if not, we've brought you the next best thing.

Today's episode of PMR is the 2nd half of a two part series dedicated to the movement movement.The last episode featured Mobility Wod's Kelly Starrett and today we're featuring Katy Bowman of NutritiousMovement.com for her second PMR appearance.

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Harrison Levy was a fan of the Paleo lifestyle, and ate, moved, and lived as closely as he could to Paleo principles. However, there was one area of his life that avoided the ancestral health approach.

He was an avid exerciser and would routinely take pre-workout supplements prior to lifting weights. The boost of energy was welcome, but the artificial colors, flavors, and ingredients were not. In a fit of inspiration, Harrison decided that he could do it better, and went to work creating his own, all-natural, paleo friendly pre-workout.

On today's Paleo Radio bite, we talk to Harrison about this initial moment of inspiration, what his original recipe looked like, and how he grew his company with Instagram.

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Most of us spend our days in front of computers, on the phone, or in our cars, working, stressing, succeeding, and striving all while remaining seated and stationary.

This wouldn't be a problem if our ancestors were a sedentary species like pine trees, but unfortunately for us, our lineage comes from a dynamic group of animals who made their way through the world by employing a broad scope of movement patterns. Squatting, lunging, gripping, hanging, pressing, pulling, twisting, and sprinting, we are meant to be on the move and our biological machinery demands more than just a daily dose of gym time. To truly thrive, we need to reintroduce movement into our daily lives.

Today's show is part one of a two part series dedicated to the idea that movement is more than just exercise and features a conversation with world renowned movement expert Dr. Kelly Starrett.

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Stephanie Dodier spent fifteen years climbing the corporate ladder and while she projected an image of success on the outside, on the inside, trouble was brewing.

One day, while Stephanie was giving a presentation, an alarming sensation came over her, her heart raced, she felt lightheaded, and she thought she was having a heart attack. Her co-workers rushed her to the hospital and after being thoroughly examined, the prognosis was that she had experienced a panic attack brought on by stress. Instead of talking to her about her diet and lifestyle however, the doctor simply wrote a prescription for anti-anxiety and antidepressant medications and sent her on her way.

Intuitively, Stephanie knew that this was the wrong approach and in that moment decided to take a different path. The journey that she began on that fateful day has not only resulted in health, it has also reinvigorated Stephanie's spirit, her sense of connection, and ignited her purpose.

On today's show, she tells her story and shares the lessons she learned along the way.

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When we found out that we'd be talking to Brad Kearns, former pro triathlete, host of the Primal Endurance Podcast, and co-author of Mark Sisson's new book Primal Endurance, we thought it would be a straightforward conversation about athletic performance, the mechanics of the cardiorespiratory system, and why chronic cardio is a bad idea.

The conversation we actually had was much different, and much more interesting in my opinion, covering a much broader scope of subjects and diving deep into the areas of mindset, intuition, and awareness.

Brad has been working alongside Mark Sisson for many years, but he has his own unique and valuable voice within the Paleo/Primal space. His experience as a professional athlete, a parent, and educator have given him valuable insights into his own mind, and by extension, the human condition as a whole. We really enjoyed this interview and think you will too.

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Every once in awhile you come across someone who just has "it", that difficult to quantify quality of energy, enthusiasm, confidence, and presence that makes other people pay attention and take notice.

While at Paleo f(x) this past year we met someone who has "it", teenage Paleo blogger Sadie Radinsky.

She wowed Paleo f(x) founder Michelle Norris, chatted up Robb Wolf, and definitely made a mark on us as well. You might remember her from our 2016 Paleo f(x) wrap up episode, but we wanted to bring her back to tell a little more about her story, her Paleo mission, and to share with you some of the magic that she brings to this world.

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One of Tony's first assignments for Paleo Magazine was to cover the original Paleo f(x) conference and the first person he met in Austin was a fellow Paleo fan named Charissa Talbot.

At the time, Charissa had just taken a job working as a virtual assistant for Diane Sanfilippo, whose Balance Bites blog and 21 Day Sugar Detox program had just started to become a little too much for her to handle on her own.

They became fast friends and spent much of that weekend fanboying and fangirling over the talks, presentations, workshops, and experiences that defined the original Paleo f(x) event.

Fast forward several years later and Tony's still working for Paleo Magazine and Charissa too is still heavily involved in the Paleo community.

Her current role as COO for ThePaleoMom.com involves overseeing an entire team of coaches, writers, editors, and social media specialists. She's Dr. Sarah Ballantyne's right hand woman, working behind the scenes to ensure that all the book projects, blog posts, programs, and podcasts featured on ThePaleoMom.com arrive on time, in shape, and ready to rock.

We are thrilled to have the opportunity to interview our friend Charissa and to share her story with all of you.

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