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J. Les: Just a comment. apparently, we're not that far o in having complete details on all of the budget issues around the olympics, which, by the way, were very successful.

i look forward to that full accounting, as i'm sure every member of this committee does. So at the earliest opportunity i would welcome a meeting where we could examine the nancial results of the entire olympic ex- perience. i don't think a rhetorical exercise today is necessary.

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Chandra Herbert: i guess, just jumping o of the

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c. arts council report in terms of grants and the

auditor's discussion around other grants, i just won- der whether i could take an opportunity to suggest or request or put out the idea that we might also be inter- ested in looking at the B.c. gaming grants and money that ows from gambling to charities and non-prots.

J. Doyle: i have received correspondence in regard to that matter, and it's currently under consideration.

R. Sultan: i had a question on recommendation 4 on the arts council. it was just to understand more fully the gist of the recommendation. "e scores, rankings and funding allocations resulting from each panel are signed o by members of the panel and are stored on line" — from which i might assume that they would be available on line to the world.

if that is indeed your recommendation, i would just suggest a little bit of sensitivity. harkening to my own experience as honorary patron of an amateur orches- tra — largely staed, but not entirely, by seniors in West Vancouver — that applied for some money from one of the north Shore municipalities and got back a rather tart critique saying that it wasn't quite up to snu…. i don't know whether it was the string section or the tubas that were out of whack.

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is earnest, quite talented and very successful ama-

teur group was quite crushed by this. it would have been so easy to say: "i'm sorry. We just don't have money for you this year, but we'll try to consider it more carefully next year."

i'm not quite sure if it would be like a professor put- ting all the grades on line and the attendance records. i don't think they do that.

S. Durno: ank you for that question. e term "on line," i believe, refers to the fact that it's stored on our server. it's not actually on the website. e comments that the peer adjudication panel came up with and the rankings are available to us internally.

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Durno: Yes.

R.

Lee: along the same lines are the criteria for choos-

ing those projects. i understand that probably 50 percent of the projects are rejected because of the…. last year you had 2,030 requests for nancial assistance, and only 1,069 organizations and individuals got the funding, so it's about 50 percent rejection.

my question is: for those rejected projects, do you see a trend in the communities, and do you encourage them to change, for example, their programs or whatever — the composition of the members for the project and that kind of thing — in order for them to be successful in the future?

S. Durno: Yes, we certainly do. Just to clarify, that statistic — the 2,030, with a 50 percent success rate — includes organizations as well as individuals as well as scholarships. at's for post-secondary arts students or arts administration students who are applying for very small grants towards their tuition.

i think, especially when you're looking at our oper- ating programs, that the statistics are much higher. But certainly, if people do apply to programs and it's deemed by the peer adjudication panel that perhaps the nature of the work they're doing would be better served by one of our other programs, then the sta would be in contact with those clients to encourage them to apply to a range of other programs that we oer.

R.

Lee: chair, if i may, a following question is….

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ere are many cultural communities in B.c., and some

of them, i am sure, are not aware of the opportunity to apply for grants. are you making any eorts in the council to reach out to the communities so that you get more quality applicants from a community, so that those projects that have the merit to be funded, have the opportunity to be funded?

S. Durno: absolutely. We encourage other applicants that we do have to let other members of the commun- ity know that these programs are available. in terms of a formal Pr strategy, we are working on that constantly and getting the word out and having as many people apply who are eligible for our programs as possible.

b. Ralston (Chair): Shane, and then that's it.

S. Simpson: Just a quick question. is relates to the olympic question. as has been noted, Vanoc will be reporting out nal budget numbers sometime in the coming weeks or the next month or so. e auditor general has reported on this twice already.

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e question i have is: considering the work that's al-

ready been done — as John says, hopefully we'll get a chance to talk about this when we have that full infor-