What Guys Said 17

If not, I tend to think it's quite sexy. I don't mind if a woman has some hair on her arms, for example, but I wouldn't mind if she waxed even her arms.

In particular, when girls wax down there, it's incredibly sexy to me -- not just visually, even more that it's so much easier to go down on those girls, and touch that raw and bare skin.

It might seem prepubescent, dunno -- I try not to go there. What I think instead is that it's more like, say, a Barbie doll. Those things don't have body hair, and a lot of those kinds of aesthetics we have in society don't include hair in stylized figures, art, etc.

I don't find them attractive either -- but think of all drawings of women as another example. Body hair is often a detail omitted in art, and even in more realistic styles. Combine that with a prepubescent teenager developing all these sexual urges (more intense than men twice his age) and then kind of building his ideas of sexuality at that point. I think that's why the hairless body on a woman starts to become an aesthetic ingrained in us.

I don't think so -- at least that wouldn't be the case with me. Youthfulness tends to take on a kind of synthetic aesthetic, however -- being free of wrinkles, blemishes, scars, stretch marks, body hair, etc. In a society with cosmetics, and the female canon in art lacking these features, we start to get our ideas of beauty from this kind of synthetic form.

And likewise all kinds of classical art from various cultures -- the tapered hourglass waist and elongated limbs and torso popular in Egyptian art, e. g. I think all of these kind of influence and reinforce our ideas of beauty, though they might also reflect what nature kind of programmed into us the whole time. It's kind of hard to separate nature vs. nurture here.

Yeah, they were all surprisingly small back then. The females also tended to be kind of oval in shape, very prominent nose bridge, etc. Not all of these ideas are so popular today, but I think society still values a kind of synthetic figure. Very organic features like blemishes tend to be kind of something real people have, but not something valued so much in terms of canon.

No, in my case even 18-year olds are starting to get borderline "little girls" to me. I must admit if they dress in a very sexy way, I might have a thought or two here, but I don't think I could ever date and fall in love with one so young -- too much of a maturity gap.

"But you want a completely hairless "woman", free of wrinkles and blemishes."

Visually yes, but attraction isn't a purely visual affair for me. A young girl will often lack the kind of character traits I find appealing as well, which comes across even in terms of how she carries herself, how she dresses, her voice, maturity, etc.

No, that's not true. Perhaps you have some kind of resentment towards this aesthetic. I'm trying to explain it to you why society favors this kind of aesthetic and why it exists. However, you seem generally fixated on this idea that, say, disliking armpit hair on a woman must equate to pedophilia.

Perhaps it would help to understand if we reverse the genders. Why do some women like a man's face to be clean-shaven? Are they pedophiles? They could simply find such boys in a junior high school. I don't know what draws a woman to this aesthetic, but I wouldn't presume it to have anything to do with an attraction to underage boys.

Yes, kind of a similar reason. But humans in their most natural and organic state are quite different from the aesthetics we value today. A grow man would often have a beard that reaches his abdomen, his finger and toenails would be extremely long and curling, he'd have horrible body odor, horrible breath, etc. etc. When we start deviating from this aesthetic, often the polar opposite does have a lot of characteristics in common with underage boys. But a woman is only a pedophile if she's actually attracted to underage boys. It's not quite the same thing to seek to dislike some of these organic qualities in a grown man as it is to actually like a 10-year old boy.

I hope that makes some sense! I might be explaining this poorly. I would also generally agree that the amount of cosmetics, grooming, styling, cleaning that we do as humans to try to give off a youthful appearance and one that lines up with society's canons might be excessive and sometimes borderline insane.

I also personally like some blemishes on a woman. I think it's because I took figure drawing and got used to drawing the nude figure (both male and female). The imperfections often add some degree of humanity to the subject.

But it seems like society is still reaching for that ever-unrealistic synthetic figure.

@Azara To some degree, yes. Though I must admit I have some double standards here if we're talking about men in general.

For my body type, I don't have very big muscles. I'm cut from an active youth, but not so thick in the chest, e. g. As a result, if I was covered in hair on my chest and abdomen, but example, it would cover a lot of the definition of my torso. That said, I actually don't grow much hair around that area, I'm just generally lacking hair there.

In terms of pubic hair and armpit hair, there I tend to grow a lot. If I never shaved or trimmed there, I would grow this kind of huge curly bush. So I tend to trim and shave around those areas in a way that I think complements a certain kind of aesthetic that works well for me.

I feel like men who grow a lot of body hair have a masculine thing going, but I think it works best for men who are kind of big (like a bear).

I do admit this is not entirely fair to both genders. I do wish I was open-minded enough to like a girl [...]

[...] with very hair legs and armpits with a huge pubic bush, for example, but I must admit I'm still heavily biased towards women who do shave their legs and armpits (to me this is visually more important than shaving their pubic hair -- my preference towards a general lack of pubic hair is more for cunnilingus than visual appeal). I just hope this preference is not perceived as pedophilia, as I am not attracted to underage girls whatsoever.

I sense a hint of sarcasm, but I'm very difficult to provoke. :-D Consider again though that even the male body in a most organic, "natural" kind of state from unkempt long hair to epic beards and body odor is also generally unappealing to women, and the polar opposite of that tends to swing towards youthfulness if we're totally a wholly natural kind of state. It's not fair to claim it's the same thing since women definitely do have the more difficult standards of beauty applied on them, but both could be seen in the same light if you want to start associating these aesthetics with an attraction towards children.

You're still so adamantly associating a lack of body hair with prepubescence. One could say the same about some of the male aesthetics worshiped by society. I think it would actually help strengthen your argument if you replaced pedophilia with superficiality.

That said, do you avoid any grooming of body hair, letting your armpits and leg hairs grow? I'm not in the extreme category of favoring women without any body hair whatsoever (ex: arms, legs, chest, abdomen, back of palm, etc. -- don't care), and would agree that a completely hairless body would probably look quite odd.

To me a completely hairless woman would look kind of like a creature from a different planet. There might be some characteristics of her body in common with prepubescence, but I think it'd be rather obvious by a slew of other features that she's an adult.

I'm reminded a bit of my friends teasing me about my fondness for women with smaller breasts. For that I've been called everything from gay to pedophile, "Real women have big boobs." What they're missing out on are all the subtle features that make a woman look her age beyond just gigantic boobs and gigantic butts.

If issues with the idea of beauty in society are a point of contention with you, then we're actually on the same page. I'm coming at this from a visual arts angle and one who has studied anatomy, classical canons of beauty, etc. In general I do think our ideas of beauty have narrowed too much towards very unnatural kind of forms, and some completely unattainable for many. That said, I can't help but admit I'm influenced by those aesthetics -- but you are as well. I think you just need to try to take an honest look at the problem.

Lmfao wow. Just because some dude likes the visual lf a clean shaven women it doesn't make him a pedophile. She can still look lile a grown women with a grown face and body. Its just lile I prefer a guy without hair on his face. Its not a deal breaker but its just i notice the guys i like when they grow out their beards... It doesn't really suit there face. That being said i myself prefer to be shaven. I dont like having hair on my legs which i had even as a little kid (it ain't just puberty that gives it to you) and hair on my armpits. Besides I have really bad bo so besides deodorant and frequent washing, shaving the suffocating hairs in the summer helps a lot

And look I aimt saying there is anythimg wrong with not shaving. There isn't and its actually more natural. But that being said there are too many pros of me shaving and plus I just dont like seeing the hairs. Puberty made the hairs more prominent but I always was hairy even as a 7 year old and I hit puberty at 10.

Oh and have you ever thought perhaps a guy just wants to see the skin with no hair in the way? I know guys who prefer a clean shaven pussy but that is because they just want to see it without hair blocking the view so its more visually stimulating and plus easier to go down on her

Lol i know guys that wouldn't ever get with a woman that is even 3 years younger then them yet they do have that preference. Its a hassle to give a woman a blow job when she has a big bush. Who wants hair in their mouth

I mean I think its kind of weird if people are completely hairless but not like its bad or that they look like children because some women just dont get hairy. Women on my Dads side dont get hairy usually and dont have hair to shave. But honestly , when guys prefer to see no hair they dont mean everywhere unless he's weird. But it makes it much more enjoyable for a guy to give you a blow job when you are not full of hair down there that will only poke his face and get in his mouth

Well I wouldn't say that because I prefer to be shaven anyways. Plus its not just men that like it. some men dont care. And also in my experience when you go swimming people prefer you to be shaven, even women. Also in lots of jobs people are required to shave, including men because its deemed more professional. And I domt see not wanting to feel hair when giving a blow job unmanly. If i were a lesbo i wouldn't want hair in my face either

@Grungenoreos It's worth ignoring this one. Reason and logic are not strong with her, she's the type that wants to project her ideas of beauty onto society through sensationalist accusations of pedophilia towards a man with a 35-year old wife for the simple reason that she shaves her legs, armpits, and occasionally get a Brazilian wax.

Yes, it's creepy. Why I more or less quit dating and having sex since it reminds me of pedophilia. No pubes on women is just too weird for me. That's important enough to me it's actually a criteria for screening potential dates. As an example down the street I was propositioned by a hooker once a few years ago (before the neighborhood was cleaned up). I asked if it was shaved and she said yes it was. I said "sorry, not interested then".

hawt :) i love the little fuzz on their arms and the hair on their head of course ;P but otherwise i have known a few full blown waxed/creamed omg its so amazing. now for me as a guy, i have a person interest in making sure the girl is not interupted during her fun times, so i shave most of my body besides my arms, and legs *head and armpits default... right*. this gives u a clean look and actually makes u "bigger" looking for those who care, and nothing to get stuck in her teeth while she enjoys herself. also mine always seem to enjoy licking me. like my chest. i imagine if i did allow my hair to grow that would be awkward? licking a carpet lol same effect as below i would assume. anyway thats my 2cents.

It's hard to make a comment why someone would get it removed. But on pubic hair I get tired some times of the shaved look. Those girls who get it laser removed. I hope the hair look never comes back in style.

What Girls Said 11

no i love it. i think its beautiful graceful enhances the physic... I think its hot as long as they have head and eye brow hair. its perfect in my opinion. wish people were naturally body hairless. we dont need it anymore. we got clothing.

Really? wow but you doesn't need to go in an institut you can just buy a special laser. You can find it everywhere even where you buy groceries. It's like this where I live and it's less expensive. Around 100 or 300 for the expensive one.