March 22, 2014

MICHAEL BARONE: Hispanics souring on Obamacare — and Democrats too? “I think that Obamacare may be discrediting Big Government generally among Hispanic voters. They may have assumed that government in the United States was competent and functional. They have been finding out that Obamacare has been about as competent and functional as government in Mexico.”

Maybe they’ll become less enthusiastic Democrats, but I’d be surprised if they went Republican in large numbers.

These people come from countries where anyone who has anything, has probably stolen it via corrupt government. They see it as wonderful that the government here is giving them things as opposed to letting them die in the streets. Democrats to the core.

This is complete BS. The Democrat Party's solid gold base (beside blacks) - which it hopes to increase exponentially by conferring citizenship on the entire population of Mexico - is the very poor recent Hispanic immigrant who depends on welfare for much or all of his or her living. To think that these voters (for voting is what the whole amnesty program is about), who have come from desperate poverty to a nation that will shower them with unimaginable wealth in the form of cash payments as well as subsidized or even totally free healthcare, lodging, education and cell phone service, would ever consider not voting for Democrats as the party which promises them that these benefits will be theirs forever, is a pipe dream.

"They have been finding out that Obamacare has been about as competent and functional as government in Mexico.”

In other words, they still love the idea of government provided healthcare and other government provided services, they're just unhappy with the way Obamacare has been implemented.

Hispanics are simply not receptive to the small-government message. Back when Ronald Reagan was winning in landslides and getting the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts to vote for him, he was still losing the Hispanic vote by a huge margin.

The boss of our grounds crew made exactly this point to me two weeks ago. The trigger was his efforts with zerocare, just as Barone mentions. He even put it together with Democratic Party. I told him I sympathized and suggested he vote Republican. Wish I could have suggested Constitution Freedom Party or Libertarian Conservative Party but there is not one.

Maybe they’ll become less enthusiastic Democrats, but I’d be surprised if they went Republican in large numbers.

Perhaps this is because you don't have all that many Hispanic immigrants in Tennessee. From what I see in Southern California, they are among the most hard-working and stridently self-supporting folks you'd ever want to see. Especially the ones who've picked up stakes to come here. If they weren't all Catholic, one would call them Calvinist.

There are a lot of beggars here, but not one of them is Hispanic. Why shouldn't they vote Republican? They even like the SoCon positions.

I was just about to say the same thing. These "hard working, stridently self supporting soCons" vote overwhelmingly for Democrats. Why should they be beggars when the California government puts them first on the list for handouts? I don't know why so many conservatives and libertarians have trouble adding 2 plus 2. But huge majority support for the statism does not future GOP voters make.

People used to argue that all those damn Catholics (Irish, Italian, Polish, Czech, Hungarian, Slovak, whatever) could never be Americanized and would always be tools of the big city democratic machines. Now the 3rd and 4th generation are the heart and soul of the tea party movement. Go figure.

The Democratic of old were a different beast from what they became after the sixties. And it was five or six generations before the groups you mention were fully assimilated. In other words, we're looking at another hundred years of Democrat dominance before the descendants of todays Hispanics possibly become Republicans.

And that's a best case scenario of assuming they follow the path of Irish and Italians rather than the path of blacks and Jews.

I have lived and worked with Mexicans, legal and illegal, all my life. It appears to me that new immigrants tend toward the Democrats because they believe the propaganda about them being champions of the disenfranchised. However, the second and later generations are a different story. Mexican cultural values are typical conservative values, celebrating hard work and family. As the second generation grows up they will identify more and more with conservatism. Let us hope that as time goes by Republicans still merit the name "conservative."

Statistics on second and later generations disagrees. The longer the immigrant family is in the US the less the work ethic is exhibited, the less conservative they are.

Why is it logical to grant amnesty to law breakers? Why should those who 'stand in line' and wait years be punished by the system for obeying our laws? Why should the lawbreaker deserve ANY special treatment?

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