Protesters living in a bubble

Looking at the news last week, I watched the story about the five wonderful young men who were missing after being out fishing in the middle of winter.

Those young men were like all poor people, young and old, who work regardless of conditions to pay taxes in this beautiful country, for roads, hospitals and all the good things we have.

There is no justice when you see all those protesters, such as those who oppose the pipelines and everything that keeps the economy of this country going.

Most of the protesters are people who work or have worked for the government and have good pensions paid for by taxpayers. The rest are those who never worked and never will, but get their goodies from the poor worker and taxpayer.

Well, I am 71 now. I guess I’ll get ready for Fort McMurray, to make more tax money.

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Ehman Lynk CD

March 03, 2013 - 16:29

Protesters living in a bubble! 20 Comments Wow! While I agree with some of the writers, there are a few comments I would like to put forth: 1. Canada produces TWO PERCENT of the Global Pollution. 2. I also worked in Sask. on the pipeline patch, (with a great pay!), There is a big difference in laying a pipeline of six inch or ten inch. or laying a pipeline of twenty or thirty inch. There has been, as far as I know no small pipeline ruptures, and if so, it could be contained easily. Not so with the big ones. Protests work if you are a certain group, but, a word to protesters who do not belong: Be careful, Our Supreme Court has just come down with a decision that if one protests against someone or a body and they ,the body feel it is discrimitory, you may be headed for the cells.
Forget about things that may happen in the future, lets get the protests against dictitorial government in Ottawa and the Politicians in general.
Further: If you feel as a comment writer and are too ashamed to use your name then I feel your comment should be ignored. To send this email to the Post, I have to give my name, email address. You do not have to do that why?

I don't think that Walter is that far off. Those of you who think he is will maybe get it when the transfer payment program is modified as some Canadians have decided to landlock Alberta's resources. Albert will just not have any money to contribute to this revised plan. They are now borrowing to pay for infrastructure. It is what it is. As for Not Poor Men's comment, jealousy can be as damaging as greed. Your creepy comments are most undignified and disrespectful at a time of mourning five young hard working men. I can't imagine any job out there more difficult than the one they took on in winter conditions. RIP young giants.

She was far from being disrespectful, but trying to make a point. How does Walter know that these fishermen were poor? he was trying to belay a point that was not founded in the reality most of us know about fishermen to pull at people's heartstrings. The use of melodrama does more damage to these men than the truth. Walter has stirred up things with a bunch of stupid comments that were not really worthy of the written word, and an abuse of free speech. If you're trying to say something at least make sense when you are saying it.

FYI

February 25, 2013 - 10:27

FYI Walter, from May to June 2012 as many as 1,500,000 litres of oil leaked from pipelines in Alberta, 500,000 litres spilled into the Red Deer River and tainted a reservoir that provides drinking water to thousands of people. I don't know about you, but that concerns me.

Gee, I wonder how many cups that would translate into. So you really think that the computer you're typing on is not made out of something that ran through one of those pipelines? It's just not a perfect world just as your lack of sewage treatment in CB is not perfect for the environment. The big picture takes a little more focus than your giving it.

FYI

February 26, 2013 - 08:05

Blueberry misty, do you see anywhere in my statement that says I don't use oil, or that we should close down the oil sands? Oil companies are making billions from this oil, they should take some of the dough and use it to make sure these things don't leak, and if you think the amount is not significant, how about we bottle some of that Red Dear River drinking water and have your family drink from it. I know you are going to say, what dream world do you live in to think they can build a pipeline that doesn't leak, well, if I had an oil tank in my yard, and it leaked, the cost for me to re-mediate that spill in relation to my income would be huge, maybe we should do the same for the oil companies.

Blueberry Mist

February 26, 2013 - 12:17

I do know about pipelines as I worked years ago making a living in the pipeline construction business. If you knew how many tens of thousands of miles of pipe are already under the ground and compare that to the number of leaks that occur you would realize how good the record actually is. Is it perfect? heck no. Is anything perfect?heck no. Does that mean that gas and oil companies don't care...of course not. They hire fixed wing and helicopters to patrol these lines with infra red locators every day of the year. This is why most leaks are found quite early. To say or think that these companies don't care is absolutely ludicrous and false. Do yoiu not drive a car because you might crash? Pipeline right of ways are returned to their original topography. They actually create new grazing areas for the animals and they love it. There has to be a balance between business and environment and the oil and gas industry does take this very seriously. Every economic forcast says that resources are what will pull us through this world recession. Where is one's life if you can't feed your family and make a living. As for the protesters...google Vivian Crouse and see where the money trail supporting these protests leads to. Now that's an interesting read.

Blueberry Mist

February 26, 2013 - 20:12

Sorry guy, that;s Vivian Krause with a K. Please google her and learn about what she has uncovered. It shows how a lot of people are being snowed.

FYI

February 27, 2013 - 08:24

BBM, so you think 1.5 litres of oil in two months in one province is acceptable? Again, I am no expert, but I think that seems high regardless of how many miles of pipeline are there. Yes, I do drive my car in spite of the fact that I may crash, but the government makes sure I am driving a safe vehicle by making me get the car inspected every two years, and if I don't do that, I get a fine. Do I think oil companies care? Yes I do, I think they care about money, and lots of it, and I think they care about the environment as much as the government makes them, and no more. They probably care about it as much as Sydney Steel did back in the day when they were dumping chemicals into a little pond on their property, which by the way, was cleaned up using tax dollars from you and I . I know there are protesters doing it for the wrong reasons, but I also know this country needs an opposing voice, because if we let these big companies do whatever they want with no fight, we are in trouble, big trouble.

Blueberry Mist

February 27, 2013 - 10:01

FYI,, what is your take on dumping raw sweage and medical waste into harbours and oceans? Better still, why are you still doing it in Nova Scotia? The Sydney Steel plant dumped chemicals because there was no technology or knowledge to do anything different. Drilling and extraction technology is improving each year. What exactly are you saying? Are you saying we should shut down the oil and gas industry completely? Do you have an alternative method to guarantee never a leak and are keeping it secret? Something beyond x-raying welds and cutting the bad ones out until they are right, sending smart pigs through to check on carrosion, constantly improving on pipe coatings and wraps, using aerial patrol to visually inspect the ground surface over these pipes? I'm assuming you just want to shut er down eh? Are you prepared to cut your Provincial budget by what, mabe in half.....and shut up about the cuts? What exactly are YOU doing to prevent the excrement of all the diseased and sickly CBers from being dumped into your beautiful, used to be pristine waters. You world is pure fantasy!!!!!!!

FYI

February 27, 2013 - 13:51

Blue Mistsy, here is my final note, as it appears you are good at writing, but your reading comprehension is terrible. You know those wonderful methods you state for making sure they don't leak, lets ramp em up, lets hire more x-raying welders, lets send more smart pigs through to check on corrosion, lets send even more aerial patrols to visually inspect the ground surface over these pipes? They have the billions in the bank, so spend it, and all the while creating even more jobs!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, and that was a good one about Sydney Steel not knowing that dumping toxic chemicals into the water was bad, I got a nice kick out of that one, I guess they didn't have scientists back then. As for the sewage, I think it is terrible, I think the CBRM should use the billions of dollars they have in the bank to remedy that situation!

Jim H.

February 25, 2013 - 09:40

To Walter Fraser...You say "Most of the protesters are people who work or have worked for the government " ? You continue to say "The rest are those who never worked and never will" ?
C'mon , where do you get your information ?
There are hundreds of thousands of people worldwide who protest the potential of Pollution and Environmental Disaster.
To name one organization would be Greenpeace.
Please, you should get the facts straight and do some homework as to who these Protesters are .
It's one thing to write a letter to the editor and have your opinion printed but it's a whole different thing to have the Facts first.

Some concepts where it involves democracy and freedom of speech would have it that people simply keep their mouths shut. Justice then becomes whatever is handed down by corporate governance from their lofty bought and paid for perches. Nine centuries after the Magna Carta, and we are still being entertained by the routine of court jesters going on about citizen rights.

It'd be nice if this letter had some relation to reality. The writer is just pulling ideas out of the air and putting them down. He reminds me of the many trolls on the internet who just want to spark a reponse. The fishermen were poor? How does he know this. All these protesters work for government and have big pensions. Unlikely. But where did this idea come from? Lay some foundation in backing up such nutty statements.

Trolling can't entirely be discounted as a motivation, but many people in fact actually believe it to be a nuisance for citizens to exercise their right to voice an opinion. In this they are going against the very system they say they're defending, because as many of us know, the state actually prefers it when people complain so as to better catalogue their activities and words into a security profile. People who tell other people to shut up are actually going against the master's wishes.

I guess I stand corrected BM. It does appear Walter's usage of the word poor seemed to imply financial worth. But you apparently knew what was in Walter's mind when he used it, and that it meant something else. I'll have to retract all my statements and make some mea culpas.

Not Poor Men

February 25, 2013 - 08:20

I sympathize with the families of the five young men who lost their lives at sea, Contrary to this letter, most fishermen in this part of Nova Scotia are not poor fishermen but very well of financially. Many of them are very wealthy owning huge summer homes which are larger than most family homes. These millionaire fishermen do not have to risk their lives to make a living. Inexperience on the part of the young Captain and greed cost them their lives not poverty. Hopefully, the fishermen will learn from their mistakes, but I doubt it. The mighty dollar always comes first over safety.

i agree with sam hogan i also beleive people support these protesters because they have their own personal agenda if there is a good reason to protest i am all for it but some of the people out there protesting they are there for every protest and half of them dont know what they are protesting but are paid to do so cash under the table and never pay a cent in taxes just my opinion