Is a Dino considered a Ferrari ?

I can't believe he said that! Was it Luigino Barp and are you sure you didn't misunderstand him?

The gorgeous Dino, although not a Ferrari, was most certainly built by Ferrari, alongside Ferraris, and is one of the most important cars in Ferrari's history.

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I have his card, I'll find it... Maybe he misunderstood me?? I mentioned the car and what the process would be to start a Classiche inspection of the car and he smiled and said "Classiche is for the important Ferrari models such as..." and began talking about some of the very rare sports racers that were in the room. Very strange, to be sure.

You have to admit, it’s confusing and not definitive. If you get a letter from VW, it’s on VW letterhead,. No confusion. If it’s from Porsche, it’s on Porsche letterhead, if it’s Bentley....and so on. No confusion. There is no differentiation in Red Books, format etc. says issued by Ferrari etc. As far as I know, Ferrari has never made any official statement in the past decades about what is a Dino and what is a Ferrari. Almost as though they don’t want to address it.

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They don't want to adress it, because it is much better this way: this ambiguity adds some mystery or mystique to the car; it is actually part of its incredible seduction.

"on ne sort de l'ambiguité qu'à son détriment" (Cardinal de Retz)
(more or less: "one gets out of ambiguity only to his own loss")

Freeman,
They realize that denial is futile! This has always been about semantics (mixed with a modicum of snob appeal on the part of owners of "real" Ferraris), and in today's market (with FIAT in total control), it makes less sense than it ever did. Fred

Freeman,
They realize that denial is futile! This has always been about semantics (mixed with a modicum of snob appeal on the part of owners of "real" Ferraris), and in today's market (with FIAT in total control), it makes less sense than it ever did. Fred

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Looking at the official Ferrari website, seems Ferrari is now “officially” calling the Dino 206GT/246GT/246GTS, “Ferrari Dino” or?

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That is a photo of my car - 03050 - that they have used for the section on the engine.

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with your permission hopefully?

lets also not forget that the dino was an important car for Ferrari to produce, imo it saved them from a collapse in sales. it was also the first mid engined car they produced and set the benchmark for the 3*8 series cars using pretty much the same chassis.

lets also not forget that the dino was an important car for Ferrari to produce, imo it saved them from a collapse in sales. it was also the first mid engined car they produced and set the benchmark for the 3*8 series cars using pretty much the same chassis.

Tony

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The photo was one taken by their photographer in a shoot I took part in for the Official Ferrari Magazine back in 2014 and they have the copyright Tony so didn't ring to ask me first. My car must be worth considerably more now that it has the official seal of approval on their website though The article it featured in was about the various different engine configurations Ferrari have designed and built over the years and they were keen enough to promote the V6 engine in the Dino as being an important part of that lineage.

About 15 years ago, I randomly sent a letter to “Arnold Liebelman” at the address on the original Chinetti documents. I did this on several cars, and surprisingly, got responses from many, as they still lived at the same address. This really shocked me. I never would have expected the people would still live there.

Arnold “Liebelman” called me. His first cousin is/was currently running for Vice-President (Joe Lieberman) and his name was not correct, but he was the one one that bought the Dino new. His last name was actually “ Lieberman”.

I don’t care about the political relationships, as no one would, but it confirmed the spelling error.

In speaking to Arnold, the best story was how he came to buy the Dino.

He later became a Real Estate person, working from a property broker, to a developer, to a development expert and transacting many deals.

None of this history is super important.

The thing I found most interesting from our conversation was how he came to own the Dino.

Arnold had had a good pay from regular land deals. He went to the Bahamas, and was a Craps guy. He ended up on that trip winning $18k. Upon the boat ride back to Miami, he went and paid cash for the Dino.

Arnold would have it for several years, until trading it for a Maserati.