Considering that tickets are all SOLD OUT, does it make any sense to even have a tickets wanted forum this year? I can't see any worthwhile purpose for it other than cluttering the board and providing a perverse sort of entertainment to the old timers reading and commenting on the pathetic and hopeless post therein.

JKhttp://www.mudskippercafe.comWhen I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle.Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me

If I had an extra ticket to get rid of and none of my close friends/family/camp-mates needed it, my next go-to place for getting rid of it would be Eplaya.

Out of all the Eplaya members, I'd look for a person whose personality (from what I can gauge online) and posts I liked and enjoyed. If I saw one of those people asking for a ticket in this forum, I'd definitely offer it to them over a random stranger or STEP.

"gonna give this a bump over to [open discussion/ticket discussion/policy discussion]"

This appears to be related to "tickets wanted"......and YES it makes sense to post tickets wanted here. If someone is in need of a ticket, they would need to keep all the feelers out now. People cancel their plans for various reason, and unless you let people know you want one, then it will never happen.

I'm glad that JK asked the question, "does it make sense" as it actually does make sense!

The plus of the "tickets wanted" section is at least the other areas of eplaya aren't filled with people talking about how they deserve tickets and how they will bring plursparklemagictarothealinghandsrawfoodcookingetcetcetc.

haolegolucky wrote:The plus of the "tickets wanted" section is at least the other areas of eplaya aren't filled with people talking about how they deserve tickets and how they will bring plursparklemagictarothealinghandsrawfoodcookingetcetcetc.

Well that's one possible argument that makes sense to me. Sort of like fly paper for the ticketless.

JKhttp://www.mudskippercafe.comWhen I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle.Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me

Speaking of issues which may or may not make sense, did anyone else see the Associated Press article regarding BM on probation by the BLM for exceeding the population cap last year? I was on the BLM's page earlier this month; not sure why this article was the first I've heard about a "probation." Is this the BLM holding out for more money or do we the community have a real problem here? Might just be a tempest in a tea cup; honestly just putting out feelers to see what the score is here.

ApolloPan wrote:Speaking of issues which may or may not make sense, did anyone else see the Associated Press article regarding BM on probation by the BLM for exceeding the population cap last year? I was on the BLM's page earlier this month; not sure why this article was the first I've heard about a "probation." Is this the BLM holding out for more money or do we the community have a real problem here? Might just be a tempest in a tea cup; honestly just putting out feelers to see what the score is here.

So 35 seconds ago.

JKhttp://www.mudskippercafe.comWhen I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle.Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me

As several replies have mentioned, it serves several purposes:1. It allows folks to make public their need for a ticket - particularly those of us who have not whined about it non stop for months.2. Allows those with a spare ticket to pick who to sell it to rather than being inundated with PM's by posting in the offered thread or giving it to a random stranger through STEP. I'm sure you have noticed the crickets chirping in the tickets offered forum.3. Gives those of us excluded from STEP yet another option.4. Just because it is sold out, doesn't mean many tickets won't change hands before ttitd.5. Any hope, regardless of how small a chance is better than just wallowing in despair and giving up.6. Condensing them all into one forum area also makes sense on several levels.

Although this year I am on the needing side, next year I might have a spare - it is impossible to predict. If I had a ticket to spare and none of my family, friends, or campmates needed it I would much prefer to offer it to someone I know from eplaya (and by extension may even have met at the Meet & Greet) and I'm fairly sure many eplayans feel the same about that.

jkisha wrote:Ya, it makes sense. Except it should have been titled "Snark Fest 2012". Have you read some of the responses to pleas for tickets? Really?

Well if you notice, the ticket requests that have drawn the snark are very similar to the ones that drew a lot of snark last Summer. I'm kinda surprised no one has ressurected the ticket begging scoring system thread yet (or started a new one).

Savannah: I don't know what it is, but no thread here escapes alive. You'll get 1 or 2 real answers at minimum, occasionally 10 or 12, and then we flog it until it's unrecognizable and you can't get your deposit back.

delle wrote:Until they try hugging you. I did that ONCE (I swear, my reasoning was overpowered by the excitement of the event. I'd been warned, dammit!!!). I PROMISE never to do it again.

I'm probably going to get myself in trouble here, but your comment resonated with me from my first meeting with Fishy. We met, of course, at the meet-n-greet. I was excited to meet her and gave her a hug. I thought she was a bit stand-offish and really didn't understand why. I actually thought about that meeting several times over the next year. (I never got any hug warnings) so, the next year I just went over and hugged her again, and I hugged her again when I met her in camp this last year too. I'm pretty sure she hugged me back! I think she just takes awhile to warm up to some people. Plus she's sort of mysterious (maybe just guarded or private). I think she's the only person I have met, shared time and conversation with in person and here and on Facebook and I still don't know her real name!

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JKhttp://www.mudskippercafe.comWhen I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle.Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me

tamarakay wrote: Made me fall in love with these snarky bastards all over again. Even that asshole cook got points.

Ain't that the truth?

I get discouraged when newbies start to cry about how mean they are. It's like half the flavour of the place is lost to them.

The only real mean usually happens between longstanding members with issues. The rest is mostly just humour. Sick humour, yes, but humour nonetheless. It only really turns sour when it's not understood.

Worry is a misuse of imagination“She hadblue skin, And so didhe. He kept it hid And so did she.They searched for blueTheir whole life through, Then passed right by- And never knew.” Shel Silverstein

Was there ever any real point to the "tickets wanted" forum other than entertainment? It's not like sellers are clamoring over buyers to get the best price on something that doesn't even exceed face value.

"The essence of tyranny is not iron law. It is capricious law." -- Christopher Hitchens

Moving this over to the Tickets Discussion thread, since that's a better fit.

To answer the question, yes it does. Last year's event sold out too, and after the sellout many people were able to make ticket connections on ePlaya. One of the things we determined after last year's event was that there would be great value in having separate boards for tickets wanted and tickets offered.

Why? No matter what we said, whether in an announcement or in responses to public threads, would stop (or even slow people down) with the ticket begging posts and threads. With just a single board for tickets, that effectively flooded that board and made it next to useless for everyone else. By breaking out discussions, wanted, and offered into their own boards, it's now easy to see the content you're interested in without seeing the content you're not interested. If you're not interested in the tickets wanted posts, don't surf that board. If you run across posts with ticket pleas elsewhere on the board, please flag the post and a moderator will get on it.

Are peoples' chances good? No, of course not. While there were a few exceptions, I believe that the vast majority of sellers will not look at the tickets wanted boards at all. Last year, sellers posted that they had tickets available and within hours had over a hundred PM responses as well as replies in their thread. I expect that will be the case this year too.

Why did we open the boards up now and not wait until June? The ticket team has started processing ticket order transfers. That means people who want to sell their tickets to specific people (instead of putting them into STEP) can now complete that sale.

If I had an extra ticket to get rid of and none of my close friends/family/camp-mates needed it, my next go-to place for getting rid of it would be Eplaya.

Out of all the Eplaya members, I'd look for a person whose personality (from what I can gauge online) and posts I liked and enjoyed. If I saw one of those people asking for a ticket in this forum, I'd definitely offer it to them over a random stranger or STEP.

trilobyte wrote:Why? No matter what we said, whether in an announcement or in responses to public threads, would stop (or even slow people down) with the ticket begging posts and threads. With just a single board for tickets, that effectively flooded that board and made it next to useless for everyone else. By breaking out discussions, wanted, and offered into their own boards, it's now easy to see the content you're interested in without seeing the content you're not interested.

So Trylobyte, basically what you're saying is-

jkisha wrote: Sort of like fly paper for the ticketless.

Why don't ya stick your head in that hole and find out? ~pieholePlan for the worst, expect the best. Make the most out of it under any conditions. If you cannot do that you will never enjoy yourself. ~CrispyDave