vendredi 25 juillet 2014

Blog: MH 17 & missiles Info [eng]

Note to article:

It is probably best to reserve judgment until all the publicly
results from the investigation are released.There is a big IF to all of this as there will be some data that will never
released to the general public as the sources will be highly classified. Other
information presented to the investigation may be changed, distorted or
elements hidden.

The actual wreckage of the aircraft, in particular the
front, will reveal the origin of the downing.Ballistics & chemical analyses will strong evidence of what
happened.This brings us to the main
point being discussed at length in all 4 corners of the globe, as who downed MH
17?

There is a lot of information circulating on the net. As
with any type of OPEN source information, it is unsubstantiated by government
authorities. Russia &
the US
have both provided information too. Update: 28 July More videos have surfaced on the Internet with the truck and a Buk TELAR on a trailer. Once more certain pieces of infos are misleading.

RUSSIA

Lieutenant-General Andrey Kartopolov speaking at a media
conference in Moscow
on Monday 23rd July, stated that “A Ukraine Air Force military jet
was detected gaining height, its distance from the Malaysian Boeing was 3 to
5km. He did not elaborate further as how
they knew that it was a military nor the fact that it was ascending. He did
mention that the presence was logged by the Rostov monitoring center & some video
shots of the radar images were shown.

The Russian military also claimed that video footage of only
a BUK TELAR launcher was taken in Krasnoarmeysk which is under Ukrainian
control since 11th May. They merely repeated the claims made on the internet,
and it seems that they did fully check the location of the video footage. The video still was shown at the briefing as
there are various accounts of Buk launchers moving towards Russia, or in Russia itself.One of these accounts is the video in
question.

It can be clearly seen from geographical images, that the
location is indeed in Lugansk. Although
this cannot be 100% confirmed, the evidence points to the junction of Korolenka St and Nechuya Levyks’koho St.
There is no date stamp or other evidence
of the time when the video was taken, but it strongly seems to be dawn. You can see that it is on hill and there is a
wide road with probable wires for lights. The advertising hoarding is on the
right of the main road. (Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX443-MBWbY).
Geolocation: https://www.google.com/maps/@48.5447808,39.2651895,659m/data=!3m1!1e3

Another issue raised in relation to this particular is the
fact it was released by the Ukrainian Minister of Interior, who initially
claimed it was taken in Krasnodon. Later
he corrects himself in a comment to Lugansk.Was this an oversight or just dud information? (https://www.facebook.com/arsen.avakov.1/posts/670837696339673)

Here is the sun calculator for 18th July, 4:50 am approx:

The
Head of the SBU, Vitaliy Nayda, claimed in a press conference on the 19th
July, that there were 3 BUK systems in the hands of the pro-Donbas militia. The
photo released only shows one vehicle, the TELAR unit. There are no photos of
the command or the radar vehicles, which logically also should form part of the
battery.The SBU claims that the
location was in Torez. (http://uacrisis.org/v-sbu-eh-dokazi-bezposeredno%D1%97-priche/).

The second image that has been geolocated is the one at
Torez, at a road junction. Once more
there is no verified date stamp, however the time can just before noon, on a
clear sunny day.

(sun calculator app).The location is Gagarin St,
next to a petrol station & a shop called “Stroydom”, which appears to confirms the location.

Significantly, this puts a BUK TELAR unit in Torez, an area
controlled by the pro-Donbass NAF; it also puts the unit in range of the crash
site of MH 17. More significantly, this
image reveals that the trailer & trucker appear to be the same, since there
is a blue stenciling line on the side of the white cab. At the rear of the trailer
are reddish loading ramps.On the side
of the trailer, there is a yellow board of some kind.

These 2 images have geolocated, through internet " crowdsourcing" efforts. Other images released by the SBU also have been scrutinised and cannot be verified as being part of same set of images in Torez & Lugansk. Indeed they strongly appear to be some of kind of hoax. This muddles the whole affair even more.

What
is indeed odd is that after the downing of MH 17, the Ukrainian Prosecutor
General spoke to an Ukranian newspaper, "Ukrainskaya Pravda" and
stated that the pro- Donbas fighters had not
seized Buks or S-300 missiles. (http://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/article...07/18/7032354/).
This really starts to muddle the whole
affair even more, especially, taking into consideration the medley of ad hoc
images released by the SBU.

The
SBU also showed another video still of a TELAR vehicle, this time at night, as
reported on the site, Euromaidenpress, clearly marked with the latin numeral
“312”.The problem with this is that there
video footage taken in March, of the same unit in Kiev
government controlled territory, to the north of Donetsk, in Soledar. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj-VZB0ZdEA).So how is it possible for a government
missile launcher in March to suddenly become a militia / Russian launcher in
July?Here we have the SBU supposedly
producing photos of one of its own launchers, claiming that they are in fact
Russian.The original night shot of
TELAR unit 312 was uploaded on Facebook, by pro-Maidan deputy Egor Firsov.