(human) learning

Session 119.07.16

P!, New York City

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just for a while
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what they taste great
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where to think of ideas
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hey its value that we're better able to
get to it tonight
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since then we be so do you guys all have
a great beauty
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what we want to do dinner very serious
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yeah town very you know
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let's see what or even want to hear what
all of you to say equal to X or things
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that you see or hear or know or whatever
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that's the way to be Eric session is the
different things that I invited usually
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doing the sides of a I sides of
aesthetics
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picture picture so that way we want to
keep it
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Labour's for them because most of us are
practitioners that have something to do
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with this
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so that's our feel something that we can
think off very closely
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or what
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science fiction writing services are
speculating educated imaginary space
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that we create our heads
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I mean we
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and within the threatening to have this
conversation right now
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and first I love technology
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oil fields that were a different fields
to integrate technology and humans
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no way breaking with each other and
biotechnology the rating a go
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computer in science we sell those like
future governments in particular we you
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know like the machine learning networks
and bring all these things and there's
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also quite not happening we were kinda
like valuable imagine happening between
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the humans and machines and then like
directing we threw all the devices and
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wearable computing your video and black
holes and hourly you know the reality
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devices and so on
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so we think that all these things are
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very fast please especially because of
the huge great investments in these and
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research areas and we also computers
gain we fast and financially
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yeah so I possible these things raises
questions in my service our way out of
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town
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I really hard to be with you
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it just started fighting
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I it so there's all sorts of things
raises questions you can , vol I'm a
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like a model
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and he shall cause it to be discussed
people solving confidential and things
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that we want and think about a special
time of the day or at least that yeah
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for us and probably for this group is
important
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so yes these things in all seriousness I
my way to some degree but the most reach
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for e may be enjoyable or sloppy for
this will is to like entertain me
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- cases to experience and I think the
animal find fascinating organizations
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such as master speculating about their
computer like there's that formally
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speaking about things that were going to
the sequel's an area of switches
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I can follow me or a
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more people parallel universes or
struggle for life and things like that
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so just think about this piece of
fiction and reality is harder than I
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wish and I that super super cool and
just which the old so we'll think of
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this course so that's also why were
bearing theory and feature angels with
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more both like a state Theory include
sweet and and again
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yeah I don't know what it's like my yeah
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- friends - you're ready to do this yeah
i'm sorry i'm not going to remember
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three
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say hi
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we go then I go
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thank you yeah well that may be a really
world of the former i think being a
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professional my personal thoughts too
kind of way
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moderate in a way conversation of course
I like the way it should be selected for
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possible in the next sessions
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I mean I really don't belong here
through the process of the day what that
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means
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and
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we also have in mind invited song mix
that help people to comprehend things
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that are working on that weird and we
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this is where we remember what we're
like this and use a starting point for
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some people this procession starts at
some point and this temple or not this
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time Fletcher's like mortifying come and
its purchase and wait
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great yeah we talked about people's
backgrounds that now
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I don't know
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logical side of the issues we making out
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curator we're interested in connection
with the design and
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what
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yeah
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isn't it I security right now i work as
a fellowship director and curator
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but here's my god
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so I'm done I'm not going to do with
arts at all for front
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I
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the Balkans industry started off the
developer and they do like big data
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systems and stop it up that we love my
job i choose every time to sustain it
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I try to move for line one market to
another angle jobs few years
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the technology state last 18 you
something
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so like to do
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yeah thinking now about money
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the next next steps and I want to find
something just think I'm going to like
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you know to use what i use some bring
you industry that science in the last
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few years and then display advertising
in the web and places like that
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enterprises
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it's time to go
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where markets designs and I love science
fiction
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also what are commonly nice small
changes old
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there
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design practice as a graphic designer
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but I'm also have an active writer
filmmaker their kind of almost anything
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that you
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currently working
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speculative tech stuff
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that's the thing
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cultural institute worked for in
universities just graduated from school
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well so kind
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fresh faces but just really electric
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a lot of different
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and
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amazing
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that's how we know from we just met hi
I'm from chains of so like I'm also a
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graphic designer past five years working
branding branding because i always enjoy
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the tactical executional elements of
design
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I kind of like thinking about design a
higher level system dictates have the
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form of communication
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so interested in system structures
particularly those that engage people
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are emotional level
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psychological level beautiful cycle
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i also got my background in design
school but I fired my heart was a
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temporary arts
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I got what I have a particular interest
in art or so a lot of my colleagues and
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often try and fuse
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you know I interesting art into design
and also by myself looking at a meeting
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about our more so in design so I think
that provides a way but i also like less
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and less interested but I understand
less than technology like I'm going to
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do then maybe some other people the
rules i'm also interested to see how
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that conversation could augment the way
I think about what I do in this
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increasingly digital and I also trained
and as I
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I work a 34 you were color constitutions
and schools
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well and working video too bad
installation work things like and
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and breathe carolina you grab for
l-lauren integration of aerial like and
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models
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so yeah the the technology elastic
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I'm all for longer like I'm going for us
is that I'm just like really kind of
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like a curious to see what's going to
happen in the world
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mix a couple of decades so yeah I have
right here on our gravity and I public
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our platform
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well we really decided that warning
warning about the last year we started a
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member of fun but it isn't working
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emerging technology is more than that
i'm not an expert but I part of that but
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also related to art design a study
politics and money and I'm like in your
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host pretty things and my site at this
moment the intersection between alien
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technologies as a button computing
education intelligence and the art is
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going to be interesting
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from just from the red from the
hypothesis that this kind of thing
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started
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keeps us human right and different from
the from this conversation so at least
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exploring from different sites keep me
entertained
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Stacy
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I come from a curatorial background as
well
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contemporary art and cultural theory I
have a background in our history and
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also social justice for an organization
particularly with youth
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so right now current research interests
are social reproduction emotionally burr
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disability studies but i'm really
interested in having all these kind of a
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lot more so just interested in how
people work live and community
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particularly from the intersectional
feminist perspective
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so you know i mean i think that this
study group is so great because i'm
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really interested in the way that
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systems of oppression and oppression are
imagine into the creation of seasons
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whether you like cities or software
programs for exhibitions
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you know that actual design from so
hundreds of years these systems is like
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you know a great
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this is that
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yeah
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ok so i had a way i can prepare a
summary of the disconnection pieces of
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David :
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and that's okay with you I'm gonna be
true
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and afterwards having a pretty science
or kind of like going forward a couple
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of notions that i found interesting
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let's circle around and Roxanna later on
or we'll see how it goes and she will
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talk about resigning
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grab it
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okay so it says building up from various
features single idea hypothesis being
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influenced ready rowland articulates on
the treatment of analyzing of the
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capacity to weigh the consequences of
our technological TV
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he claims that even in very large of our
super intelligences
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not possible or even is reasonable for
things that are constants in technology
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and my generator parts of life
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multiple systems will be significantly
significantly and flowers
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he refers to these analyses to be the
analysis of these are all possibilities
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speculative schemas rollin argues in
favor of that machine argument running
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when considering the human aspect
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he suggests and essentially flat
oncology at the basis for his business
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recognizing not have no tire between
natural or artificial beings
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furthermore peace he's careful and
speaks of technical alteration of oil
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firms such as enhancement or
organization as implants for human life
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does not necessarily imply more
intelligence or record see improvement
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he's just the most humans will be
descendants
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however is with the couple sorry for
humans will be human Sanders
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however we should not be thought out
from our only problem
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logical point of view but from a wider
perspective as a complex construction
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interdependent parts including
biological cultural technological
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manifestations
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he called these the white mine he is
that that distinction between humans and
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humans humans should be been conceived
as concrete information rather than
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struck differentiation between chance
for us and our properties
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therefore ceasing to be human consists
in parts of this construction being
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capable of assuming independent of
generals in CC the functional functional
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component to white man
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the essay races the recent past and
ethical line the first to face and where
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we either asset allocations are
contributing to the development of human
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life or we stand for such possibility
and only consider the implications that
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technology telling me has to pour in
forms of life
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the file consists of violence concedes
in the in the human consequences might
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go beyond our moral compass had however
it's possible it is facing the white see
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the difference is not one between kinds
but between concrete cases of this
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connection
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we cannot specify its nature priority
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story the way beyond wait wait wait
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formation will be witnesses and
therefore there's no escape . pursuing
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and so and why
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first I want to kind of looking there
yeah
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call out to bring forward the idea of
generating and body atrocity watching
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what he calls a flat and oncology and
the second note from that I think is
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really interesting and it's causing
quite the money i think is interesting
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the expansion of me on the therm can let
to the expansion of the mall conference
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so I kind of like these just like
Captain flex language noura flex our
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wave thinking about about these issues
and the third probably but the one that
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I workers to keep her thoughts on is the
ideal for all the
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the moral basis of human face whereas we
know we're and losing our capacity to
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and track and every way
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algorithms and understand kind of like
the technology but we're developing so
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Chris here why are your thoughts in
terms of how to how to what we should
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moderate and even shut down the
technology that we are not able to
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control anymore
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and also we're eating a vehicle
questions how and any legs we are we
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that we have to develop this new and big
black 20 where people like thinking on
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from kind of weapon ethical here
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so and yeah I don't you are like my
thoughts and yeah maybe i can maybe go
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back to one of the questions and someone
has a love so i'm working with more
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great lighting is the 21
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the way we need to kind of like money
for these technologies that we're losing
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control
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hi
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did you respond to something i read
about tied into this very kind of minor
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way to jump away from the press was just
kind of kids that are i was reading the
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blog
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gentlemen the main things like kings or
something like that but the good kind of
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documents like that kind of intersection
of Technology humans and slowly gaining
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consciousness world and other one story
needed
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posted which I thought was fascinating
not you might have google but i can't
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remember exactly what somebody was
developed algorithms like facial
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recognition algorithm
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it was like software or whatever just
get it people's faces and then after so
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they just kind of let this thing run
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of course it wasn't like a constant have
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working and at a certain point when you
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Machine doing doing all of a sudden had
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printer models in one of the backgrounds
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understanding like this is the
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models of a different printer so not
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the face but identifying weapons forms
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discreet compartmentalize for
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unique models and designers have no idea
how to do that so you don't like it will
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be a very minor stuff with a plan
something very shocking like you and
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starting real life was being discussed
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you know pivotal point where we need to
start thinking about these implications
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because particular maybe just started so
we started applying kind of the facial
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recognition features of how it is now
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guess the form of the standard of the
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started kind of categorizing like in the
background photos of people so it
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started kind of organizing you know how
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paper like my photos of the same person
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it started a grouping photos like the
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well i don't know how i was able to do
you like you just learn
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so yeah we had teachers
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exactly exactly look at me i had
recognized for more information check
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the option itself was so I was just like
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doing more elements like doing it but I
don't go but I think the more questions
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is it is a really interesting long
because i'm not quite sure like you know
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as species are we are we actually not
the kind of dominant race throughout all
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of existence and like are we just kind
of this this temporary conduit meant to
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create that release over here
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you know like for your call
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like that actually is that to be the
names of God like influence on you know
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our Barbara you
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and back are harvested create just
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yeah yeah yeah I have invested hours for
default is increasing responsibility to
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there's a little as possible and then I
like the document online through still
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supports things that are like small
micro viruses and bacteria they're all
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over the place that are not saying
playing this
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about to walk around
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the question is it gets difficult part
but as you go to be brings that also
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like is their ability to actually trace
everything to target and I was really
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curious about a text
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the and he brings up something out of
the ability to - no interest no silly we
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haven't we haven't had a real effort to
excuse when the terminology and
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definitions perfectly well but there has
been no like perfect posting it or not
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my gosh
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but something else right the nonhuman
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postman is beyond haven't yet but I'm
also thinking like well what do you know
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we're talking about our ability to
understand or predict or react when it
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is
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yeah so these are other types of things
like our limits of ontological
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disability or access
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commander I get it
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to suggest many ways in others and
management
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there's a lamentable you and then
there's a comparative to what we think
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we can do it
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is that a lot of theoretical
postulations about fitness and about and
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if you can relate to the thickness or
non things which which lack of
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subjectivity
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I think we should talk about that is on
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so great
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yeah
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and I'm something that someone something
to have to consider is that we are
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thinking of all tracking these evolution
and now I'm how we see the world way and
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what we have to use runes consideration
is that for example everything that is
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needed to create a super intelligence
might be already here and we're waiting
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for the singularity just . so probably
like the network internet that
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everything is going to be there
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so if at some point that you turn that
point the point is going to go meet up
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so you won't have time and they have
that intelligence may be there
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immediately
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you want to have to be like nine months
you were gonna be like that
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so yes so is more practicing what is
happening because
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the second two different enemies not get
to be ready for that
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similar to the one that we don't know
it's going to expansion
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I think about it was different
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so I read a lot about technologies and
terms of science fiction this pacifica
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our old remind meal then Simmons books
and then stands for growth . which is
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based on another video get a former we
wrote a little that is based on that in
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science fiction where we said that the
gods are actually for students on the
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future came back and they're actually
humans everything they're like
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scientific I think everything
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ecology awesome no books that love them
as another series of all time . which
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also talks about sort of all students
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- so i can think about these four years
and the more I think about it I got to
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tell you that i personally think that
way before we have artificial
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intelligence or consciousness in the
machine
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I think the way we interact with the
child will think it's going to change
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dramatically I mean think about the way
we interact today because of cell phones
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and the internet and completely change
from 20 years ago
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our parents can barely understand the
hell are you doing with all this
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technology and I'm sure we'll have the
same thing with our kids
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so two generations I don't think
personally but I know
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computer science stuff i find it hard to
believe that extend 20-30 years of
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consciousness and computer
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of course the many things that usually
organizations or governments to the
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wheel
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indiana might be wrong but right now the
open market
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it's not even close to that and close
you can change the way before that
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I think our brain works different
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I mean the fact that I used to be really
good navigating had a great sense of
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obligation
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he was throwing in forest anywhere i
know exactly when or face your final now
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a few years of using google maps that
part of my brain is not working
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just doesn't exist and i'm not the only
one it's just my example of me
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I think they now I played in we had a
protein work week boiling for that
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virtual reality this thing on a place
for 15 minutes and I was standing on
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task after five minutes in this thing I
was completely sure that was standing on
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a castle in open air i was in the room
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and office but I don't like my brain was
sure that I will cast a line is shooting
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darts some things that are running
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I took up for 15 minutes on just took
those things off and I was shocked for
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like two minutes in order
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yeah so virtual reality
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I think or something like that like you
know multiple advances that are like
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more that are just coming on the corner
in the next 10 years
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I'm going to change compared to the way
we think and interact with each other
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and I think that goes
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that's where it's going and not
intelligent
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yay and technology that's like that's
our that happens once in 20 years
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I think that's why i rolled in that
black is it is the battery and like all
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the back from a little too much wine and
is looking for
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speaking of damage
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and mother true the way that we think
why damages means that the cavities
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again expecting more like a baby or a
can be really really need to let
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something but it's like it's you know
that these measures that we already work
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we are like intelligent something green
and so many people is not complete -
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stations
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we got weekend
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and I
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- so boring
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science
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I hope yet
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personally I believe the intelligence
connect with whatever full of the same
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sort of emotional capacities that we
have investors going to be
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and my other thing I was thinking about
reading this in my special care of you
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both speaking about how the way in which
we might come across or recognize or the
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way you might engage with the like this
other intelligence version of
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intelligence way to recognize
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remind me to the Fermi or burning power
. this looks really really cannot be
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interesting but a bit of the central
power of unity of the car that in states
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there are essentially billion billion
billion opportunities where advanced
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like four should exist
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just look at the numbers the probability
and the paradox is if Sony why not come
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to any contact with with existing
advanced life form anywhere else right
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now we're going to just kind of brings
down the multiple ways which that kind
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of reality has manifested itself but
then one of the one option of the back
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reality is that effectively advanced
life-forms do exist and are everywhere
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and in fact live on her
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potentially but we just don't have the
the cognition ability to recognize them
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any gate
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it goes like this example that you know
like and to be living a completely
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content like in this far then all of a
sudden there's a demarcation builds a
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super hydrating and then and we'll have
no recognition understanding what
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backseat driver is done
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function but they continue living a life
completely no limits to like the box
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thing and I was thinking about how like
you know hold my computer which does a
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lot for me but I cast have absolutely no
7 or understanding of what the computer
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is that when they live perfectly -
please together
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I'm going so I think there's something
interesting that there could be an ass
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like that we need to ask emily perhaps
even created but we're just going to
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have the mental capacity to recognize or
understand what the function is or what
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its house because it could be just
invisible
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the way you see if we could be seeing if
you just offer stands
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you know maybe gravity actually has a
separate function don't understand yet
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you know things like that so I think
that something is really interesting to
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me already around us and just don't have
the capacity to recognize it
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I think that every intelligence and
consciousness are all super ready
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yeah but good that I try to think of it
as like organization
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so for me like like the market is like
organizing body
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yeah it was like existed by itself 400
years and maybe I was getting like more
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complicated than working with it is
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let me be living called intelligent but
none of those terms actually speak to
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like the reality of being
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some are being nice until all these
things and this this existence that we
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don't understand and to like that the
question of organization and question
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especially mapping with I think it's
directly like the whole a super having a
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baby and can't understand gravitated to
understand the path like we're between
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types of organizations where we're
really like where this article uses macs
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live like humans like the mass flow is
an absolute sense to take the
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organizational things that like we don't
have a potential capacity to like
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understanding them to to the central
classes and you lose something there
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there's there's always something lost
there for me that's where is less Valley
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tracing the development is like
happening around us more about just
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mapping
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just like taking the things that are
already have been going
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admitting can actually trace them but
just trying to understand how somebody
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like you know if you're curious like she
doesn't really don't understand your
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charm but you don't understand complex
cold weather systems still like you
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there's a lot of ways
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releasing the different layers and
that's why it's
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the breakdown yeah
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it seems like it
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nationally colored labels response
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you know so i guess maybe I'm valley is
it again in these organizations or
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systems if they are able to function
like the qualities are able to function
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about our governance of them that's kind
of was so concerned
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wait can this actually is so many
different systems like deciding the
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market or just like when
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well to other server economics that they
have their own ecosystem
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I
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yeah
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work
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yeah but i guess this is the part of
like being able to respond or that you
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can have a hand in hand but i guess that
question of the government for me is the
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one that's the tricky and more than
moral ethical imperative that back
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thanks to the station with that and any
first were fired for this is a very
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difficult to catch from the season but
if we're back to where we are now and
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how we look for me on the market would
likely
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of course one
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that anything well there is a why that
that that that if that will be more
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important
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- laughs where do you think it's
interesting where media effect however
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because it's not doable
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anyway relationship collectives so there
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that's what the other end we're always
all the time
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projecting our fears of how the future
will look like but probably the future
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they have the most part of the machine
we will probably never know to help i
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will have other types of ability that
don't
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maybe they're so
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I think my recent lab in there are so
racist
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so she dances where they are or
definitely not so project our that's
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where this comes in because they want to
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yeah
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materials were the means for watching
and its place
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Angeles yeah yeah because like yeah i
mean if we can think of
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concepts of man
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I really love Sylvia went to his
breakdown of man
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- she's amazing
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this one
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man 1 run
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illogical understanding man -
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so we're going to you
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pull that into essentialism need to sing
about how the the binaries are and do
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what I feel for me to pursue the at
pursuing a college or non-binary way of
477
00:41:59,830 --> 00:42:06,910
perceiving intraspecies people something
about the weather with school for saying
478
00:42:06,910 --> 00:42:13,810
all over on doing that reality for that
consciousness and
479
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,110
it yeah
480
00:42:18,110 --> 00:42:25,370
flies to modify our out more often
481
00:42:27,930 --> 00:42:37,169
because we and that is the question that
I was trying to as that we pursue and
482
00:42:37,170 --> 00:42:45,810
leaving the decider of understanding and
controlling these logics and let them be
483
00:42:45,810 --> 00:42:52,170
in a way and because we're not working
we can like constantly angels are these
484
00:42:52,170 --> 00:42:59,790
our and onto land and definitely very
social
485
00:43:00,580 --> 00:43:04,750
organizational issues so much
486
00:43:04,750 --> 00:43:11,110
it's really flattering to think about
the tongue binary and my apology or
487
00:43:11,110 --> 00:43:11,740
something
488
00:43:11,740 --> 00:43:14,890
cyborg yeah exactly
489
00:43:14,890 --> 00:43:23,410
a ball and that's that's for literally
we keep seeing all these biases me
490
00:43:23,410 --> 00:43:32,410
worried however our our our our words
like help with these our bodies yeah I
491
00:43:32,410 --> 00:43:33,940
started
492
00:43:33,940 --> 00:43:39,160
yeah how would you guys feel to expect
493
00:43:42,250 --> 00:43:45,250
the next story
494
00:43:46,990 --> 00:43:51,520
just recently robbed XX
495
00:43:52,90 --> 00:43:59,350
basically we went to me any more water
496
00:43:59,950 --> 00:44:11,859
when I stumbled over here you wanted to
me back to what you were saying sorry
497
00:44:12,550 --> 00:44:32,20
you know how the tools that we have our
actually thinking right where we're
498
00:44:32,20 --> 00:44:39,100
heading to Paris Pollux to develop a
system for these new systems that were
499
00:44:39,100 --> 00:44:45,279
to think with the tools that we have we
already have available we're using fully
500
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:55,390
because we're building something that
whole about the whole day . age and I
501
00:44:55,390 --> 00:45:00,980
think that that was an interesting day
for school
502
00:45:00,980 --> 00:45:05,810
for this session to drive a ring
503
00:45:08,180 --> 00:45:11,299
you know actually grass
504
00:45:11,300 --> 00:45:21,740
so from here there are three main
elements that I where the strip nice old
505
00:45:21,740 --> 00:45:30,200
for me but she says that the grass - you
know also inevitable media is very last
506
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:35,419
minute of the future even all that
always comes up
507
00:45:35,420 --> 00:45:39,980
everybody always thinks we're a little
behind
508
00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:44,400
a hundred times but i guess it was class
509
00:45:45,29 --> 00:45:49,360
yes very last you want all that we think
it was
510
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,130
please
511
00:45:51,130 --> 00:45:54,910
already epic the way we relate job
512
00:45:55,480 --> 00:46:00,970
cover what I was like yeah
513
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:07,540
extra slush supposed to pop our 24 hour
514
00:46:08,110 --> 00:46:23,20
no way he'll be like whoa you're so
there there there are forms so that
515
00:46:23,20 --> 00:46:30,80
already our goals where the creation of
them
516
00:46:30,80 --> 00:46:40,970
that will impact far beyond the rave x
recognizes the different things that we
517
00:46:40,970 --> 00:46:50,270
need to a soul in order to create those
firefighters and I mean to put me out of
518
00:46:50,270 --> 00:46:52,30
work
519
00:46:52,30 --> 00:46:55,30
back
520
00:46:55,780 --> 00:47:07,390
I take it everywhere because I will
forever change that for anything because
521
00:47:07,390 --> 00:47:11,710
that's a simulation of college for you
everywhere
522
00:47:11,710 --> 00:47:23,530
so that's something that I find here and
the first thing that she recognizes that
523
00:47:23,530 --> 00:47:26,350
once we start
524
00:47:26,350 --> 00:47:31,660
static write something put it on hold
and use the resources on social media
525
00:47:31,660 --> 00:47:37,569
after a while but now researchers are
changing all the time
526
00:47:37,570 --> 00:47:40,690
it's crazy sorry
527
00:47:40,690 --> 00:47:46,120
tomorrow will be different than
yesterday what's resource officers like
528
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:54,880
you or you look searching google with
the same values here today
529
00:47:54,880 --> 00:48:05,680
that's different so what you read the
matter of the month so that she says
530
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,980
your resources responsibly
531
00:48:09,730 --> 00:48:11,430
I things are changing
532
00:48:11,430 --> 00:48:23,640
so anymore so we don't have the rate of
certain we have here so when you read
533
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:24,89
this
534
00:48:24,89 --> 00:48:32,640
fluoro not have that luxury anymore so
we don't want to be sure that a are the
535
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:41,40
invitation that we created was is my
work tomorrow or either was going to it
536
00:48:41,40 --> 00:48:44,369
so that Jesse and me
537
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:51,190
interesting also very interesting for us
as humans because we want to understand
538
00:48:51,190 --> 00:48:56,830
that no way all the time be sure but
that's not the case
539
00:48:57,340 --> 00:49:00,550
that's that why more sense to me
540
00:49:01,90 --> 00:49:13,690
old ideas so be sure to review the
second thing that that's also very
541
00:49:13,690 --> 00:49:21,820
interesting a facial offers be writing
by collecting writing that information
542
00:49:21,820 --> 00:49:22,450
with me
543
00:49:22,450 --> 00:49:32,950
just boarded don't want to be I that
mean that means that you know where your
544
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:39,759
humans using a voice with things and
your we're using the information that we
545
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:45,190
require or like this or that there's a
new blackberry
546
00:49:46,70 --> 00:49:50,270
standard features and how we know things
that we did you know we wanted to know
547
00:49:50,270 --> 00:49:57,680
but you can use it so so so that they
know you have offers they first actually
548
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:05,870
writing this thing and one people one
single that we recognize that's also not
549
00:50:05,870 --> 00:50:18,620
the case so we got the framework and
there's a third space that these screens
550
00:50:18,620 --> 00:50:27,589
are not they're playing they're endless
their spatial can navigate finger always
551
00:50:27,590 --> 00:50:33,230
evaluate the beautiful
552
00:50:33,230 --> 00:50:40,369
what you are saying so this is end of
that
553
00:50:40,369 --> 00:50:48,200
and dimensional and that was fast losing
the duration space
554
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:56,899
what that means doesn't anyone like
everywhere so that these silly things
555
00:50:56,900 --> 00:51:01,490
are spaced offered number
556
00:51:02,540 --> 00:51:05,810
the agency yeah
557
00:51:06,500 --> 00:51:19,520
so the children angel gave me I gave it
to really collaborate way how every you
558
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:20,630
know when he was a baby
559
00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:29,630
those world every one of you spotted
that you can be other author is because
560
00:51:29,630 --> 00:51:37,670
we share a sort of cases of water with
the other players and how that goes
561
00:51:37,670 --> 00:51:49,160
users or interpreters or other thinkers
anything that everything going for us to
562
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:56,930
start like what will be the art but we
know how would I know
563
00:51:56,930 --> 00:51:59,578
look like the finger
564
00:51:59,579 --> 00:52:08,670
everything here is broken everything
about five
565
00:52:08,670 --> 00:52:17,579
it's not certain so everything that no
one is the author very difficult than I
566
00:52:17,579 --> 00:52:21,390
ever asked you think it's great
567
00:52:21,390 --> 00:52:24,390
like yeah single
568
00:52:24,900 --> 00:52:37,469
yes I also last story
569
00:52:37,469 --> 00:52:39,980
how would you know
570
00:52:39,980 --> 00:52:46,490
we do how we go to somebody else house
571
00:52:47,60 --> 00:52:54,859
we have they with the egg to believe
that that pretty special potions and all
572
00:52:54,859 --> 00:52:57,980
that enjoy going to the trails and
573
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:09,830
we like it or not they would be good
574
00:53:12,410 --> 00:53:16,370
heart and aware of what
575
00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:23,270
yeah it was really great
576
00:53:24,290 --> 00:53:35,630
I don't know if you've ever getting so
fast tax that but it's that the text may
577
00:53:35,630 --> 00:53:37,370
be the last to be
578
00:53:37,370 --> 00:53:41,990
the ones of what i said earlier about
just like how spaces kind of carry with
579
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:50,60
it was sort of a material effect
experience sort of blues on but it also
580
00:53:50,60 --> 00:53:56,000
was making me think about like just how
like the ideas of scared to be a
581
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:00,930
cultural and social level from the
capital
582
00:54:00,930 --> 00:54:06,118
- really effective how we see it in the
way that they went to different houses
583
00:54:06,119 --> 00:54:11,730
and they were just kind of like I can't
carry this page of this may go on to the
584
00:54:11,730 --> 00:54:15,480
next people to that other people too you
know
585
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:20,790
oh yeah so we're just like this happens
to be the one for me
586
00:54:22,530 --> 00:54:27,270
that was an exciting
587
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:28,790
and it was really
588
00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:31,740
yeah
589
00:54:31,740 --> 00:54:38,339
putting spaces makes me think of believe
this reference in the bottom piece and
590
00:54:38,340 --> 00:54:46,50
start back but this idea that perhaps
there will be exponential degree of
591
00:54:46,50 --> 00:54:53,730
communication have one which is not
mobile media but also bring it back to
592
00:54:53,730 --> 00:54:58,950
the spaces idea and also i'll just leave
it at that
593
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:05,610
we think of other research and then
probably involving extensive station
594
00:55:05,610 --> 00:55:06,570
buildings
595
00:55:06,570 --> 00:55:10,770
we're all very familiar like so people
in stations and little portions but it's
596
00:55:10,770 --> 00:55:13,770
like this
597
00:55:14,270 --> 00:55:17,270
places people are already happening
598
00:55:18,370 --> 00:55:19,880
yeah
599
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,70
ok
600
00:55:22,70 --> 00:55:25,70
like where
601
00:55:25,930 --> 00:55:34,118
the day into it but it's intuitive and
please
602
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,480
but also that you're talking about
603
00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:43,839
this
604
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,90
or
605
00:55:45,90 --> 00:55:46,170
yeah
606
00:55:46,170 --> 00:55:52,320
but also it's not just time-based but
it's a good person and also for the
607
00:55:52,320 --> 00:56:00,000
dislodges these realities which means
they open up possibilities and fluidity
608
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,140
of opportunities and many more
609
00:56:02,140 --> 00:56:08,440
they also dislodge a lot of core
realities which can be very dangerous as
610
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:09,619
well as always
611
00:56:09,619 --> 00:56:15,230
as much as I want the idea was to cast
me as many meaning this is great also
612
00:56:15,230 --> 00:56:18,859
very cooperative
613
00:56:18,859 --> 00:56:23,480
obviously and so as much as there's
various reasons
614
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:33,380
yeah i'm reading that text was almost
immoral are excited by the top in this
615
00:56:33,380 --> 00:56:43,130
graphic is just as a visual thinker and
desire to be responsible for
616
00:56:43,130 --> 00:56:49,190
participating in this world seven eight
information and I want to call it love
617
00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:56,119
it but I was really interested also
concerned that the way to the increasing
618
00:56:56,119 --> 00:56:59,749
offered like the most holy of
opportunities for communication like the
619
00:56:59,749 --> 00:57:05,240
ways people get with it weighs really us
is kind of warning to me
620
00:57:05,240 --> 00:57:10,129
I'm thinking about your example about
using google maps lost that buildings
621
00:57:10,130 --> 00:57:13,789
kind of have that kind of just internal
compass for you
622
00:57:14,809 --> 00:57:18,200
what kind of documents with that in turn
apply
623
00:57:18,740 --> 00:57:25,279
you know I was thinking kind of like the
way in which is what kind of developed I
624
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:31,160
believe alongside line with itself and
so it's kind of the linearity of reading
625
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:40,129
w internalized to it was with codify
systematize the same language bill and
626
00:57:40,130 --> 00:57:43,310
now it seems like with this you know
where to turn
627
00:57:43,970 --> 00:57:49,40
it almost seems like need to reevaluate
Andrey systematize way to understanding
628
00:57:49,40 --> 00:57:53,660
criminalize the various degrees in ways
which will relate to all of this
629
00:57:53,660 --> 00:57:58,250
information because I'm very afraid that
if it starts happening in decentralized
630
00:57:58,250 --> 00:58:04,790
piecemeal hard way then all of a sudden
the kind of communal central Language
631
00:58:04,790 --> 00:58:11,690
share will be broken down into smaller
set of actions in which people need a
632
00:58:11,690 --> 00:58:14,869
certain technologies or something and
then almost would break down the
633
00:58:14,869 --> 00:58:19,220
universal language of the kind of you
know you all with
634
00:58:19,220 --> 00:58:24,109
and so i have been reading some things
really fascinate but I don't feel like I
635
00:58:24,109 --> 00:58:25,500
need to go back and
636
00:58:25,500 --> 00:58:31,440
metal visit maybe how we systematize or
understand you know the end dimension
637
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:37,380
the ways in which you relate a navigator
that the kind of the various ways in
638
00:58:37,380 --> 00:58:39,420
which information kind of present itself
639
00:58:39,420 --> 00:58:45,330
so it's is still digestible and you
don't have a higher self so the average
640
00:58:45,330 --> 00:58:48,840
of of narrow so please -
641
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:53,820
but you know allowing the opportunity to
kind of approach it more structural way
642
00:58:53,820 --> 00:58:58,140
so we don't lose sight of ourselves
which we can all
643
00:58:58,140 --> 00:59:06,450
yeah well I'm going to do the idea of
being able to communicate universally is
644
00:59:06,450 --> 00:59:13,740
tough for me to fully I mean thinking
more self about article being about
645
00:59:13,740 --> 00:59:17,250
knowledge production and so I got it
646
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:24,900
but that as a yes finally this
attribution a proper citation benefits
647
00:59:24,900 --> 00:59:31,530
on margins and even that's totally be
centered and it's hard to to read or
648
00:59:31,530 --> 00:59:38,460
make electrical and it can be or there
can be like multiple sourcing you know
649
00:59:38,460 --> 00:59:45,210
and finally like so much wanted from
like especially you know black women and
650
00:59:45,210 --> 00:59:48,450
there are sort of activist work can
finally be traced
651
00:59:48,450 --> 00:59:53,939
you know and then this new level
accountability will have to happen so
652
00:59:53,940 --> 00:59:58,119
that you know that you just can't
totally you know
653
00:59:58,119 --> 01:00:04,509
pull off something good like the system
structural entangled system for a
654
01:00:04,509 --> 01:00:07,630
semi-planned i love it
655
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,670
yeah I just taking one step beyond that
656
01:00:12,670 --> 01:00:17,259
get me something that I can understand
annotations things like that but I
657
01:00:17,259 --> 01:00:21,249
completely agree more but I I just had
the biggest going one step further
658
01:00:21,789 --> 01:00:26,680
more like a library of Babel is an area
where there's like every piece of
659
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,339
information constantly available to all
of us to everyone at all times
660
01:00:30,339 --> 01:00:34,119
how do we just how to be longer you have
to be approached in home system
661
01:00:34,119 --> 01:00:39,69
I think you can understand i set and
other wise and kind of just lost her
662
01:00:39,69 --> 01:00:48,38
acid of all knowledge ever-present help
you construct that adjustable because
663
01:00:48,39 --> 01:00:49,740
it's easily
664
01:00:49,740 --> 01:00:56,40
a lot of the effects of regulation
information actually
665
01:00:58,220 --> 01:00:59,470
reverting to
666
01:00:59,470 --> 01:01:05,80
we're with your research
667
01:01:05,80 --> 01:01:08,950
past the book is printed and distributed
hologram
668
01:01:08,950 --> 01:01:13,330
no matter where you run the country you
have that so like objectively as we can
669
01:01:13,330 --> 01:01:16,40
kind of coded into the structure of the
670
01:01:16,40 --> 01:01:22,279
operations where it is now all the
resulting objectivity
671
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:23,859
not necessarily
672
01:01:23,859 --> 01:01:24,799
and
673
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:31,400
commission investors and so it almost as
a weird like cycle of the information
674
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:36,620
you access is immediately colored by
your like you as an individual which is
675
01:01:36,620 --> 01:01:43,430
like your physical location and like as
like the first tire of this like I was
676
01:01:43,430 --> 01:01:48,379
like super super excited about the
proposition of like not having static
677
01:01:48,380 --> 01:01:53,300
resources because i'm going to think of
like objectivity as communicative
678
01:01:57,210 --> 01:02:03,90
like to do is just like that because
that's the best technology we have time
679
01:02:03,90 --> 01:02:05,160
for printing press
680
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:09,899
mass distribution of information and how
it's like starting
681
01:02:10,500 --> 01:02:11,940
hair
682
01:02:11,940 --> 01:02:21,750
set to you and it's like it's it's
really really difficult to wear that
683
01:02:21,750 --> 01:02:24,750
where - it seems like a lot of times
actually
684
01:02:25,710 --> 01:02:31,680
with figures of people you've been
around me seems like backwards and we're
685
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:39,540
like the whole thing about the
correctness of you for me it was
686
01:02:39,540 --> 01:02:41,730
anything
687
01:02:41,730 --> 01:02:46,920
breakfast is served like a value like
that want to throw it out the window
688
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,920
like a lot during me
689
01:02:51,330 --> 01:02:57,750
you mean like respectability or the
right way to do something or just like
690
01:02:57,750 --> 01:02:58,680
objective
691
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:05,890
that's true yeah but my family about it
692
01:03:05,890 --> 01:03:15,430
suggesting that transition from a from
our obsession of
693
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:21,150
seeking truth or knowledge or
experiential
694
01:03:22,789 --> 01:03:34,819
in some ways to bring those and
knowledge knowledge we experience and I
695
01:03:34,819 --> 01:03:43,819
think that's already happening to find
such as public like that and let me
696
01:03:43,819 --> 01:03:46,699
operate is like nonverbal communication
697
01:03:46,699 --> 01:03:50,29
fire is kind of a fire station
698
01:03:51,19 --> 01:03:55,129
we also speak about Fred made to play
699
01:03:55,130 --> 01:04:05,959
what is it has two and three and four me
with you
700
01:04:05,959 --> 01:04:12,410
and now we have no meaning or less is
awesome
701
01:04:12,930 --> 01:04:21,270
and that's great but the question is how
we a certain how we
702
01:04:21,839 --> 01:04:32,940
yeah perform these devices or technology
to be able to the complexity and and so
703
01:04:32,940 --> 01:04:34,740
on
704
01:04:34,740 --> 01:04:43,290
yeah I don't like you were going back to
the future reality and I'm the city of
705
01:04:43,290 --> 01:04:51,660
possibilities really i was i was able to
form you obviously brought inspiration
706
01:04:51,660 --> 01:04:57,899
can speak my name is also being able to
experience reality
707
01:04:58,490 --> 01:05:01,700
more features and we have two devices
708
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:08,330
I kind of like mad and acts like I want
to make a motion will stay calm percent
709
01:05:08,330 --> 01:05:10,9
was like all the supposed to be pleased
710
01:05:10,10 --> 01:05:17,840
so let me kind of like leaving happiness
through a financial advisor we each
711
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:26,390
other and experience like yeah like
feature reality both your emails now we
712
01:05:26,390 --> 01:05:27,890
have the right
713
01:05:27,890 --> 01:05:33,259
yeah not whatever guess not whatever
714
01:05:33,260 --> 01:05:45,500
however there yeah and so going to the
bus again
715
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:54,140
questionable a propositional the English
looks like i won't we
716
01:05:54,140 --> 01:05:57,170
we have my all these social position
717
01:05:57,170 --> 01:06:00,290
technologies are basically goes flood
718
01:06:00,290 --> 01:06:08,119
we mom minority languages and the fire
recreational and muscle started being
719
01:06:08,119 --> 01:06:15,619
more and more credit length though you
want to smile day we cannot we have now
720
01:06:15,619 --> 01:06:19,99
we have to all beautifully broken
721
01:06:19,99 --> 01:06:28,579
we stop we need to work in general we
need to not in themselves and not speak
722
01:06:28,579 --> 01:06:40,430
words but not necessarily you know
that's like a witch be modified
723
01:06:40,990 --> 01:06:46,680
yeah I was actually just going in that
you're saying specifically about general
724
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:53,850
instead of the predictive analysis is
doing with your tinder or something like
725
01:06:53,850 --> 01:06:56,339
that
726
01:06:56,340 --> 01:07:00,900
I don't know some other more dynamic way
he interacted with
727
01:07:01,470 --> 01:07:07,169
we're like it's always movies firming
around account or something that it's
728
01:07:07,170 --> 01:07:14,370
not like the biggest I think that flurry
of things
729
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:27,300
the thing is when I think that our
730
01:07:29,500 --> 01:07:36,820
there's office now they want to buy the
sometimes be very the
731
01:07:39,730 --> 01:07:42,420
one of what yeah
732
01:07:42,420 --> 01:07:43,579
that
733
01:07:43,579 --> 01:07:48,859
back at you
734
01:07:49,460 --> 01:07:53,359
for you are that we disappear
735
01:07:56,590 --> 01:07:57,799
beer
736
01:07:57,799 --> 01:08:04,640
but I think they're there might be
737
01:08:08,970 --> 01:08:13,9
to me they anything stop you
738
01:08:13,10 --> 01:08:18,710
thank you very much
739
01:08:20,609 --> 01:08:26,250
and I'm talking about this is
interesting when we have gender into the
740
01:08:26,250 --> 01:08:30,430
conversation because you
741
01:08:30,430 --> 01:08:34,570
you're communicating over seeing
something visually or really
742
01:08:34,569 --> 01:08:42,519
we have preconceptions of everything
that we are they put into a way for
743
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:47,950
example something that is interesting is
now that you mention eliminating some
744
01:08:47,950 --> 01:08:52,000
horse or gender from our language
745
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:58,510
imagine just a our phones that for
example when it vibrates right
746
01:08:58,510 --> 01:09:02,680
it's a device that we have with us and
someone is calling
747
01:09:03,220 --> 01:09:08,20
we know it's always varies and even if I
have what's up
748
01:09:08,20 --> 01:09:16,30
read twice so I'm getting condition to
the central experience and it is
749
01:09:16,29 --> 01:09:20,620
communicator and receiving and probably
if you don't have that additional
750
01:09:20,620 --> 01:09:26,559
reinforcements or worse the general i
think someone sent me a message
751
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:32,320
remember it's the same way so so that
maybe another level of communicating is
752
01:09:32,319 --> 01:09:35,319
essentially the same central is that
753
01:09:35,908 --> 01:09:42,929
we call that bias that officially with
us or we can even being insufficient
754
01:09:42,929 --> 01:09:47,69
because we have the worst working from
for man
755
01:09:47,69 --> 01:09:50,219
so these giants during this is
756
01:09:52,830 --> 01:09:55,830
something that
757
01:10:07,380 --> 01:10:09,780
Wow
758
01:10:09,780 --> 01:10:10,790
as well
759
01:10:10,790 --> 01:10:14,300
is everything all right
760
01:10:15,119 --> 01:10:18,299
why fire
761
01:10:18,300 --> 01:10:20,510
ok
762
01:10:20,510 --> 01:10:22,840
refresh
763
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,840
in the eyes of all
764
01:10:30,110 --> 01:10:35,719
so that the vibration as I platform like
what's happening
765
01:10:35,719 --> 01:10:38,719
messaging I think the annex
766
01:10:40,370 --> 01:10:40,989
also
767
01:10:40,989 --> 01:10:42,669
show
768
01:10:42,670 --> 01:10:45,360
relationships with people like that
769
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:51,360
the platform is based on politics body
parts
770
01:10:53,110 --> 01:10:55,570
the platform is
771
01:10:55,570 --> 01:10:59,199
yeah that's that's kind of like that
772
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:16,400
the brakes don't work better for them
and act just have to continue because
773
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:17,388
we're talking about this
774
01:11:17,389 --> 01:11:19,20
they actually downloaded
775
01:11:19,20 --> 01:11:23,910
both . tracking apps to with them
partners and now thinking about
776
01:11:23,910 --> 01:11:27,000
different things automatically
downloaded
777
01:11:27,810 --> 01:11:30,870
yeah very strange
778
01:11:30,870 --> 01:11:35,670
so she does now no but like finding
779
01:11:35,670 --> 01:11:39,300
yeah there's there's lots of different
things and people are wrong
780
01:11:39,300 --> 01:11:56,130
you know to some definitely do you rate
we have it
781
01:11:56,130 --> 01:12:02,940
thinking about ways of finding is always
to or not to code the code bodies record
782
01:12:02,940 --> 01:12:03,870
identities
783
01:12:03,870 --> 01:12:08,70
I go back and forth between the ideas
about going to be liberated from santa
784
01:12:08,70 --> 01:12:16,290
fe we're at between myself and want to
stand by the kind of college I yeah sure
785
01:12:16,290 --> 01:12:19,290
but I think about
786
01:12:19,290 --> 01:12:26,340
there are many ways of trying to track
Dale doesn't track and female are you
787
01:12:26,340 --> 01:12:31,260
know age but the chocolate or tendencies
towards these groups which are also
788
01:12:31,260 --> 01:12:32,159
rotating
789
01:12:32,159 --> 01:12:41,549
I think that was necessary binary
breakdowns of identity but multiple ones
790
01:12:41,550 --> 01:12:42,860
are
791
01:12:42,860 --> 01:12:51,589
tracking also that is where things end
up going also thinking about not not a
792
01:12:51,590 --> 01:12:53,810
liberated since awesome tracking time
793
01:12:53,810 --> 01:12:56,810
- predictive
794
01:13:01,700 --> 01:13:05,120
yeah i mean i'm going to want to do you
think it actually is practical or
795
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:08,120
possible to eliminate parts of language
796
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:12,590
I think it's happening anything happens
the way
797
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:21,710
yeah i mean so what are you going to
look but it's possible that we over but
798
01:13:21,710 --> 01:13:25,850
it's not me but we all over the words
just like you
799
01:13:25,850 --> 01:13:37,640
the network being a long time and many
much more so being a forgotten and I do
800
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:42,290
from the words that are fundamental at
ads like that
801
01:13:42,290 --> 01:13:47,600
princeton step we have long associated
certain connotations to it
802
01:13:49,710 --> 01:13:57,60
motion for so I don't know explosive run
out of school for me as a person for
803
01:13:57,60 --> 01:14:03,900
example a in the last couple of months
has been useful to not and you have to
804
01:14:03,900 --> 01:14:07,920
be to exercise not find it or not
805
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:17,130
speaking of those those those ways just
because it allows for a kind of like a
806
01:14:17,130 --> 01:14:22,950
more flexible a perception space because
otherwise
807
01:14:22,950 --> 01:14:30,90
yeah you like the moment that you speak
it out do you like now we're going to
808
01:14:30,90 --> 01:14:34,830
see it yeah for that to anyone
809
01:14:34,830 --> 01:14:41,190
don't start to shape the language like
it is your responsibility to secure a
810
01:14:41,190 --> 01:14:43,80
better work
811
01:14:43,80 --> 01:14:47,670
may I ask this because i thought your
point was interesting in terms of an
812
01:14:47,670 --> 01:14:50,790
opportunity to neutralize the way
813
01:14:50,790 --> 01:14:55,350
text text you you have the same
vibration as well maybe it's not so much
814
01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:00,989
we don't need to worry about removing
words but just adding new layers of
815
01:15:00,989 --> 01:15:05,370
strategy in order to neutralize or
become what he wants in the way
816
01:15:05,370 --> 01:15:10,170
we are in rather than I understand
817
01:15:10,170 --> 01:15:16,770
eliminating certain things that maybe
the the top 10 gender having more sounds
818
01:15:16,770 --> 01:15:19,220
yeah thank you
819
01:15:19,220 --> 01:15:24,860
they have to be these clones have to be
a little more much more complex things
820
01:15:24,860 --> 01:15:32,210
will have to be more like compounds or
even play much like why
821
01:15:32,210 --> 01:15:38,270
like what descriptive care about
concepts and and and i think that's
822
01:15:38,270 --> 01:15:42,260
quite what stuff for our kind of like a
political science and language
823
01:15:43,670 --> 01:15:44,790
the Lord
824
01:15:44,790 --> 01:15:49,000
speed something that the same kind of
computer and a friend or
825
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:56,260
bottom line for whatever those things
are actually more and more selective
826
01:15:56,260 --> 01:16:00,400
important to each other all the way and
that's what i was saying that but I
827
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,790
think that both he and languages than
that because we're going to have
828
01:16:03,790 --> 01:16:08,800
speaking more than much more like a
descriptive way and and young yes
829
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:12,980
anything but i dont no more letting
these and then
830
01:16:12,980 --> 01:16:18,49
based on the Supreme policy changes that
are much more much more open for
831
01:16:18,50 --> 01:16:18,770
interpretation
832
01:16:18,770 --> 01:16:23,000
that's the mat , morning westerns
833
01:16:30,50 --> 01:16:35,750
specifically and then that transgender
aesthetic thing that's certain to be
834
01:16:35,750 --> 01:16:38,750
understood it as like seven signs
835
01:16:40,670 --> 01:16:43,860
so that's interesting to think
836
01:16:43,860 --> 01:16:44,880
yeah
837
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:46,369
never plug -
838
01:16:46,369 --> 01:16:51,139
system illegibility which is so
839
01:16:53,330 --> 01:17:01,250
it's really play this right and yeah so
it's like you you gauge your experience
840
01:17:01,250 --> 01:17:03,920
like oh yeah that's great
841
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:08,30
and like all these relations that I like
emotional and
842
01:17:08,700 --> 01:17:18,179
necessarily try to like equally until
things that I just think that it's going
843
01:17:18,180 --> 01:17:24,990
to happen in other places where the
reading takes place you know
844
01:17:25,870 --> 01:17:26,550
yeah
845
01:17:26,550 --> 01:17:32,219
and this is something that can just not
but for example we're thinking about the
846
01:17:32,219 --> 01:17:36,809
devices and evaluation on the agenda and
everything but this thing that we are
847
01:17:36,809 --> 01:17:43,860
some years we we create a relationship
with with with the profits at some point
848
01:17:43,860 --> 01:17:51,210
and the most human thing to do is to
replicate a robot Sub manager so we know
849
01:17:51,210 --> 01:17:55,889
what if we're going to replicate that we
communicate with some something that
850
01:17:55,889 --> 01:17:57,960
class and gender
851
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:03,420
probably the voice is gonna because of
our preconceptions is going to tell us
852
01:18:03,420 --> 01:18:04,469
the gender
853
01:18:04,469 --> 01:18:10,920
however we made a name and if possible
but it's just like something that has no
854
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:15,480
gender right and probably roll it may be
something that will happen together a
855
01:18:15,480 --> 01:18:22,468
few months said not to feel this issue
and their minds right now probably not
856
01:18:22,469 --> 01:18:26,730
and that's importance of not using
products as humans because that will
857
01:18:26,730 --> 01:18:33,119
just trying to replicate they heated a
human human body and
858
01:18:34,260 --> 01:18:42,000
and a conversation and everything so
that means that the robot still
859
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:47,579
interested they just have quality
prescribed checker middle section are
860
01:18:47,579 --> 01:18:57,780
generalists Dennis folks one of us
someone i'm sure i just read about
861
01:18:57,780 --> 01:19:04,440
recently there was a plan with jingles
humans so they're both they're called
862
01:19:04,440 --> 01:19:15,239
sort of all religious you know we
produce results described it so well you
863
01:19:15,239 --> 01:19:18,718
could actually believe it's possible the
house the house
864
01:19:18,719 --> 01:19:23,409
x is between and
865
01:19:23,409 --> 01:19:31,329
the blue and the male and female that is
like it just like with makes gender
866
01:19:31,329 --> 01:19:33,159
single
867
01:19:33,159 --> 01:19:35,969
yeah the absorption
868
01:19:35,969 --> 01:19:40,499
attention it will be coming
869
01:19:40,499 --> 01:19:47,670
yeah there's one thing that just kind of
putting on the way into the current
870
01:19:47,670 --> 01:19:52,380
conversation I want to throw a
relationship to the text was interesting
871
01:19:52,380 --> 01:19:59,849
was that I going back from an artistic
standpoint of visual design creator your
872
01:19:59,849 --> 01:20:05,519
remaining in terms of my fear or anxiety
about the opportunities reminded of this
873
01:20:05,519 --> 01:20:07,710
quote from my car
874
01:20:07,710 --> 01:20:17,610
really defined so it was good it was the
quote is I think from electric game
875
01:20:17,610 --> 01:20:24,839
saying that there's nothing as
exhaustive or immediately exhausted as
876
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:26,280
endless possibility
877
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:32,70
so you don't have my heart obviously the
person who had built a career you know
878
01:20:32,70 --> 01:20:33,540
very delicate
879
01:20:33,540 --> 01:20:40,560
careful repetitive you know for making
you have this idea of bringing all of a
880
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:49,440
sudden this vast open bar is arrives at
once like is that Caroline and we lose
881
01:20:49,440 --> 01:20:56,519
the nuances of possible between a to be
if all of a sudden you know very very
882
01:20:56,520 --> 01:21:00,660
restricted by linear book production for
instance and there's still a tremendous
883
01:21:00,660 --> 01:21:05,639
amount of innovation is happening in the
books and all of a sudden he introduces
884
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:11,580
tired paradigm which of course is happy
now with kind of exciting technology but
885
01:21:11,580 --> 01:21:17,40
like how much nuance opportunities are
we missing in kind of bleep driving some
886
01:21:17,40 --> 01:21:19,170
of these advances
887
01:21:19,170 --> 01:21:26,250
I don't do this and that to you
888
01:21:26,250 --> 01:21:27,100
please
889
01:21:27,100 --> 01:21:30,100
sword
890
01:21:30,699 --> 01:21:34,59
what really
891
01:21:34,60 --> 01:21:35,460
the end
892
01:21:35,460 --> 01:21:44,400
well as the way they are specifically
was that all perspective or equal that
893
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,400
we need to accept that all perspective
894
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:51,890
that the others all right
895
01:21:53,150 --> 01:21:57,170
I valued that people and back
896
01:21:58,969 --> 01:22:01,969
there's one very
897
01:22:06,780 --> 01:22:09,70
yeah
898
01:22:09,70 --> 01:22:13,630
there's many examples that but they
can't we
899
01:22:14,199 --> 01:22:16,790
otherwise the holidays
900
01:22:16,790 --> 01:22:17,820
yeah
901
01:22:17,820 --> 01:22:18,710
all
902
01:22:18,710 --> 01:22:19,300
how
903
01:22:19,300 --> 01:22:23,739
that was the fishes of true
904
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:27,400
so
905
01:22:29,199 --> 01:22:32,199
don't have to
906
01:22:34,239 --> 01:22:38,49
the other side of this way we always
wear
907
01:22:40,510 --> 01:22:49,59
so I that the way they have this play
action
908
01:22:49,59 --> 01:23:00,849
where where every day care to see
probably gathered wasn't there where the
909
01:23:00,849 --> 01:23:04,719
train already have to understand this
910
01:23:04,719 --> 01:23:10,150
yeah you can have the desire to do that
911
01:23:10,150 --> 01:23:11,660
yeah
912
01:23:11,660 --> 01:23:14,720
three days off yeah
913
01:23:16,70 --> 01:23:26,840
if we go back for like but I started to
work place but like projecting our years
914
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:34,430
of tradition and they're going to work
915
01:23:34,430 --> 01:23:49,930
where's that or whatever it may be will
be
916
01:23:49,930 --> 01:24:05,680
she was just put the pursue or consider
yourself a creator and
917
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:19,720
so horrible that we all have a notion of
creation of the motion of the more kind
918
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:24,250
of way and entry boy
919
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:28,270
here's our only goal
920
01:24:28,810 --> 01:24:39,40
we're gonna make a creative way but I
don't know what other colors that are
921
01:24:39,40 --> 01:24:40,330
like there Ron
922
01:24:40,330 --> 01:24:47,860
Tiki studios you know the genius cool
spring organized the first old ways
923
01:24:49,300 --> 01:24:55,480
take you there
924
01:24:56,79 --> 01:25:04,269
that's where they're called for example
you can use it
925
01:25:04,900 --> 01:25:05,659
ok
926
01:25:05,659 --> 01:25:15,739
but the way that image copyright or
927
01:25:16,500 --> 01:25:30,120
image around thank you friends of the
use of the other words from the old and
928
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,610
is considered the
929
01:25:32,610 --> 01:25:34,159
fall back
930
01:25:34,159 --> 01:25:37,429
property entire open source world
931
01:25:40,699 --> 01:25:48,650
I have addressed city to city that I did
not mean to startle it's very hard for
932
01:25:48,650 --> 01:25:52,909
me to read post variables understands me
very hard
933
01:25:52,909 --> 01:25:58,159
my brain works differently but I got to
say that i had to delete this emotional
934
01:25:58,159 --> 01:26:00,919
lots of versions of the truth
935
01:26:00,919 --> 01:26:05,749
so true there's only one way to
interpret it differently because of
936
01:26:05,749 --> 01:26:11,90
misinterpretation are different kinds of
information or understanding the entire
937
01:26:11,90 --> 01:26:16,639
vast amount of information that is on
one and the more you learn you see
938
01:26:16,639 --> 01:26:20,150
different truth but it's only because
the information to conduct different
939
01:26:20,150 --> 01:26:23,570
things with it and the library
940
01:26:23,570 --> 01:26:33,409
so it's actually just everything and
more even own thing with your personal
941
01:26:33,409 --> 01:26:37,369
point of view of all truth and a half
942
01:26:38,300 --> 01:26:45,739
it's always possible so you can say he's
like that because this dude in the world
943
01:26:45,739 --> 01:26:49,610
through but this is different to my true
and that is the next
944
01:26:49,610 --> 01:26:53,869
it makes through something really
subjective knowledge
945
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:57,909
yeah it's like yeah but I guess I
expected
946
01:26:59,20 --> 01:27:06,940
yeah it's always played the role at work
the way you are describing your a
947
01:27:06,940 --> 01:27:16,269
perception of like actual quality and
movement is squeeze it
948
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:24,769
we that educational later
949
01:27:24,770 --> 01:27:35,810
true yeah but just being so like same so
strong that there's one food ready in
950
01:27:35,810 --> 01:27:42,410
many possibilities if you think about it
951
01:27:43,170 --> 01:27:59,520
speech that we all want language to
language instruction we receive me think
952
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:07,110
that the example I have many reporters
before it just now because they
953
01:28:07,110 --> 01:28:16,110
understand - no way you punish its
factories rest different so we need to
954
01:28:16,110 --> 01:28:21,330
wait because that's the way we construct
the area around things so that's also
955
01:28:21,330 --> 01:28:25,830
the language effectively you see truth
956
01:28:25,830 --> 01:28:30,780
yeah also i have parents and
mathematician
957
01:28:30,780 --> 01:28:35,849
was telling me about this experience
when she first realized that one doesn't
958
01:28:35,849 --> 01:28:43,110
actually exist but just objects that
have the same qualities as one that make
959
01:28:43,110 --> 01:28:43,769
up one
960
01:28:43,770 --> 01:28:46,139
you know and so this is a really
profound
961
01:28:46,139 --> 01:28:52,649
her also true that would be the number
the number one with the really going to
962
01:28:52,649 --> 01:28:55,769
be cheaper
963
01:28:55,769 --> 01:29:00,899
she's really billion just like total
math lover in terms of practice and
964
01:29:00,899 --> 01:29:03,360
theory one is an extract
965
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:09,119
yeah all the way at all so if something
as soon as the quality of one that we
966
01:29:09,119 --> 01:29:12,119
call it 11
967
01:29:12,809 --> 01:29:18,780
yeah so I mean music playing at the
moment she realized that she was reading
968
01:29:18,780 --> 01:29:20,999
something just a normal day
969
01:29:20,999 --> 01:29:27,119
library and just like oh my god damn it
doesn't actually this but are you know
970
01:29:27,119 --> 01:29:31,380
how we understand our camera so you just
about that
971
01:29:32,250 --> 01:29:35,490
one true two and to think about that
972
01:29:36,30 --> 01:29:39,179
I mean also my mind because you so nasty
973
01:29:39,180 --> 01:29:42,420
gender gender
974
01:29:42,420 --> 01:29:45,990
we describe certain qualities for sure
975
01:29:45,990 --> 01:29:52,110
yeah i'm curious to hear . there is one
true you do you think that truth is
976
01:29:52,110 --> 01:29:56,370
ultimately attainable like if we're
constantly working to get closer to do
977
01:29:56,370 --> 01:30:01,740
you think any one person could attain
that true or is it possibly table
978
01:30:01,740 --> 01:30:08,250
because they're all your facts you have
to change the natural ready you're
979
01:30:08,250 --> 01:30:16,710
saying you want to so excited facts are
facts then you know the difference
980
01:30:16,710 --> 01:30:19,710
this material reality
981
01:30:23,260 --> 01:30:24,600
ok
982
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:27,680
you know like I touch this group
983
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:31,250
like yeah yeah true
984
01:30:31,250 --> 01:30:35,480
like Barack Obama is President a little
more
985
01:30:35,990 --> 01:30:43,280
yeah so yeah so you know social
structures and many people believing the
986
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:47,389
same truth which is not still be true
right course
987
01:30:47,390 --> 01:31:02,120
so the line art interesting to say the
president as well . reaction much to
988
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:08,510
grab something something happens to
crash into the ocean
989
01:31:09,50 --> 01:31:12,50
the truth in Russia is difficult
990
01:31:13,99 --> 01:31:20,119
what I generally believe in personal
force is the physical truth of the
991
01:31:20,119 --> 01:31:26,570
ground but then things like Bobby the
president are truths that come from
992
01:31:26,570 --> 01:31:29,599
people believing something which is very
different
993
01:31:30,199 --> 01:31:37,398
yes yes yes yeah right about that about
those troops Ernest is that right those
994
01:31:37,399 --> 01:31:42,439
schools are necessary to build these
social groups and keep like he literally
995
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:48,50
when was the border for example for our
country starts are and he's just a man
996
01:31:48,50 --> 01:31:52,340
in every inning like that some one step
at these
997
01:31:52,340 --> 01:31:56,389
this is the length and you cannot cross
from here existence of countries
998
01:31:56,389 --> 01:32:04,399
yeah yeah that's great
999
01:32:05,59 --> 01:32:11,489
what's the glad you mentioned that
1000
01:32:11,489 --> 01:32:15,329
and I just it's a great movie with
recommended
1001
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:24,960
I have to watch your game and the guys I
work is only a little truth and stuff
1002
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:35,440
and just when one scene where and talk
about you should watch it
1003
01:32:35,440 --> 01:32:39,910
and get a hard to grasp
1004
01:32:39,910 --> 01:32:52,000
also there is a small and opportunity
and this will be the temp drop to change
1005
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:55,300
different reds and he goes
1006
01:32:55,960 --> 01:33:00,790
hang on the same line because we
deciding reality and what true
1007
01:33:00,790 --> 01:33:04,449
you need to change but you they make me
different changes in different centuries
1008
01:33:05,50 --> 01:33:08,770
so we have like this report thanks but
it's just more change change the whole
1009
01:33:08,770 --> 01:33:14,620
thing and it's interesting because you
mentioned the gas model and just like
1010
01:33:14,620 --> 01:33:15,429
that
1011
01:33:15,429 --> 01:33:18,429
is this is a pic of them in the roads
around
1012
01:33:19,209 --> 01:33:23,179
it's really interesting to me
1013
01:33:23,180 --> 01:33:33,450
certain sort of like to keep your mother
to marry me
1014
01:33:33,450 --> 01:33:37,410
we do it and whether terms by which we
can hear something
1015
01:33:40,230 --> 01:33:44,489
practice what we can do with those two
1016
01:33:44,489 --> 01:33:51,388
all of this communication its
transmission very similar like it's
1017
01:33:51,389 --> 01:33:52,469
super great
1018
01:33:52,469 --> 01:33:55,469
I just think we're reading
1019
01:33:56,429 --> 01:34:00,809
back to these core issues of me giving
an understanding
1020
01:34:01,430 --> 01:34:06,239
but I really interested
1021
01:34:06,239 --> 01:34:15,449
small-scale methodology but just really
you know even just down to this area
1022
01:34:16,60 --> 01:34:20,380
instance the best interacting with each
other like what happens in the moment or
1023
01:34:20,380 --> 01:34:31,150
something more tangible like pokemon you
know taking too many already interested
1024
01:34:31,150 --> 01:34:36,280
in everything that I brought up and also
that it was like either people are
1025
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:37,599
talking about black lives matter
1026
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:40,870
pokemon same time I want a big one
1027
01:34:40,870 --> 01:34:44,90
what it is . oh yeah I don't know
1028
01:34:44,90 --> 01:34:49,280
so much about it but I mean with the one
thing what I want to say that everybody
1029
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:51,130
was not about moving around
1030
01:34:51,130 --> 01:34:57,100
interacting and he's like new forms of
encounter certain but then you started
1031
01:34:57,100 --> 01:35:02,500
it becomes apparent everybody that I'm
not able to move around and have access
1032
01:35:02,500 --> 01:35:04,80
to
1033
01:35:04,80 --> 01:35:12,120
and then the ways in which i immediately
you can place this little and then you
1034
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:12,570
place
1035
01:35:12,570 --> 01:35:18,299
yeah you can place them in different
spots and there are you know children
1036
01:35:18,300 --> 01:35:20,910
that have to model is that you can
actually bring a little
1037
01:35:20,910 --> 01:35:25,830
come on and they didn't have to leave
you know your and they can still
1038
01:35:25,830 --> 01:35:30,210
participate this thing that also like
has a social value and I connectivity
1039
01:35:30,210 --> 01:35:32,340
that from ya
1040
01:35:32,340 --> 01:35:38,370
so much more tangible for me the way
that we respond to something that kind
1041
01:35:38,370 --> 01:35:42,330
of like sweets up everybody or seems
like all seven it's here
1042
01:35:43,260 --> 01:35:47,580
yeah i think it's super us a little bit
more
1043
01:35:48,210 --> 01:35:53,760
you want to just bring something and so
there's like two options many you can
1044
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:54,450
have
1045
01:35:54,450 --> 01:35:59,940
sorry for getting you don't like the way
you have the opportunity to place of
1046
01:35:59,940 --> 01:36:02,669
work which is where people with a moron
1047
01:36:02,670 --> 01:36:05,760
okie stop whether call and then that
sense
1048
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:11,489
what track pokemon for anyone to to kind
of catch or you can use incense which is
1049
01:36:11,489 --> 01:36:16,259
a personal device that will surround you
and you local track ok so there's
1050
01:36:16,260 --> 01:36:21,239
interesting dynamics in terms of like do
you because you don't miss you don't
1051
01:36:21,239 --> 01:36:25,919
necessarily our community by a lot of
other people too useful or play the
1052
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:30,119
whore is like something a dollar to you
might be sent over the dollars and get
1053
01:36:30,119 --> 01:36:30,420
it
1054
01:36:30,420 --> 01:36:36,270
fucking sense something crew deleted and
free including and so this is like
1055
01:36:36,270 --> 01:36:41,520
question like do you spend a dollar per
second and capable works a lot of people
1056
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:46,590
condemn it from your charity or you use
the individual insects just you know
1057
01:36:46,590 --> 01:36:47,880
track
1058
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:56,250
there's no one but that the same person
1059
01:36:56,969 --> 01:36:59,480
he said his imperfections that make it
1060
01:36:59,480 --> 01:37:08,570
the same music videos in time for the
same face the same place so they're
1061
01:37:08,570 --> 01:37:15,200
waiting for their environment in some
way and the phones are communicating
1062
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:16,309
with someone else
1063
01:37:16,310 --> 01:37:26,750
another so there are yeah but also think
that once I learned is that they're
1064
01:37:26,750 --> 01:37:29,900
probably like a problem
1065
01:37:29,900 --> 01:37:39,650
yeah they're like for left their wanted
in my daily life and select download the
1066
01:37:39,650 --> 01:37:47,299
app that's a look at those apples right
and then you can see this other reality
1067
01:37:47,300 --> 01:37:52,550
based around your finger if you plan to
go to see it
1068
01:37:53,350 --> 01:37:57,700
it's still there even if I never
download the app there could be all
1069
01:37:57,700 --> 01:38:00,700
right there from the best
1070
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:15,750
yeah the next all the facts and really
go for it
1071
01:38:15,750 --> 01:38:20,160
I think it's super interesting
1072
01:38:20,910 --> 01:38:27,960
the first of all we're developing all
these really fast way like a really
1073
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:34,800
complex athletics for these things and
so that's something that is really
1074
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:46,950
strange and important think about me
handle any corporation is getting
1075
01:38:46,950 --> 01:38:56,580
economical political power that we get
so for me the past like the red
1076
01:38:56,580 --> 01:39:04,110
implications in economics is really
going on were having
1077
01:39:04,110 --> 01:39:10,740
but where is virtually like it's a
matter of reality was that
1078
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:15,590
step forward for these way we're going
to be leaving through what you would
1079
01:39:15,590 --> 01:39:22,310
spend before three idea and so on so
it's just a step forward to but I think
1080
01:39:22,310 --> 01:39:30,440
that's probably like the record level
probably should be able to recognize the
1081
01:39:30,440 --> 01:39:37,40
true Ally and sea bass and things like
that in the same higher level of
1082
01:39:37,40 --> 01:39:41,960
physicality and i have never personally
like white people get upset by things on
1083
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:47,90
my mind being in front of them because
they are communicating with you just
1084
01:39:47,90 --> 01:39:53,240
because I indicated to me that like
difficult you're something beautiful or
1085
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:59,000
that they're like a valuable service but
look at different ways of interacting
1086
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:05,30
with reality bc teams are neutral things
are digital exist they are digital
1087
01:40:05,30 --> 01:40:09,830
visual colder air my physical self and
self and they're here then we also have
1088
01:40:09,830 --> 01:40:10,90
to
1089
01:40:10,90 --> 01:40:15,580
I think that just because they're not
terrible but we should regard and more
1090
01:40:15,580 --> 01:40:18,580
women are different and lower
1091
01:40:19,330 --> 01:40:27,70
so I think the question things it's
really great that we're letting
1092
01:40:27,70 --> 01:40:33,880
themselves and experience reality such
an emotional and then that those worlds
1093
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:42,310
that like after effects such strong
social consoles and then finger pointed
1094
01:40:42,310 --> 01:40:48,10
out in 10 market share so rapidly can
also be applied to the you know
1095
01:40:48,10 --> 01:40:54,310
rapid evaluation of and ceiling of
starts like Instagram or snapchat and
1096
01:40:54,310 --> 01:40:59,380
evaluation is complete and speculative
artificial and just like suspect that in
1097
01:40:59,380 --> 01:41:00,99
the future
1098
01:41:00,99 --> 01:41:06,130
these programs are absolutely available
1 billion dollars because of some reason
1099
01:41:06,130 --> 01:41:08,270
we don't know we just have receded
1100
01:41:08,270 --> 01:41:13,10
me and it's great how your money in
politics and power is throwing around so
1101
01:41:13,10 --> 01:41:19,10
um so we wait and almost you know
clearly to the degree that this today
1102
01:41:19,10 --> 01:41:23,330
kind of one more . father was really
interesting about having additional and
1103
01:41:23,330 --> 01:41:29,540
place the do invisible use the same
thing you reminded me of this project
1104
01:41:29,540 --> 01:41:32,930
that this designer are probably familiar
with
1105
01:41:32,930 --> 01:41:37,250
did you know that you know I used to eat
a lot of research about platforms and
1106
01:41:37,250 --> 01:41:42,140
our official it could be could interact
with one another and he created this
1107
01:41:42,140 --> 01:41:48,500
really simple app which essentially took
a video of a total horizontal shot of
1108
01:41:48,500 --> 01:41:51,320
somebody walking down the block the
sidewalk
1109
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:57,139
no the locks like the sidewalk and the
video was a girlfriend for and I and the
1110
01:41:57,140 --> 01:42:01,880
video we only play if you're actually
walking back same distance and then you
1111
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:03,770
stop watching the video stop playing
1112
01:42:03,770 --> 01:42:07,490
so very latest in a string tied to the
physical additional and the digital
1113
01:42:07,490 --> 01:42:11,750
didn't really exist unless the fiscal be
activated there's this really
1114
01:42:11,750 --> 01:42:15,650
interesting possibilities in that I mean
we can just see the power go over the
1115
01:42:15,650 --> 01:42:16,490
place
1116
01:42:16,490 --> 01:42:19,929
men of yourself physically in the
state's passing
1117
01:42:19,930 --> 01:42:27,310
digital reality and so you're thinking
about the opportunities explanation
1118
01:42:28,740 --> 01:42:30,610
this
1119
01:42:30,610 --> 01:42:38,230
like what my girl is particularly
political ideology it's like something
1120
01:42:38,230 --> 01:42:38,870
the children
1121
01:42:38,870 --> 01:42:41,180
the world you can easily imagine
1122
01:42:41,180 --> 01:42:45,530
where everyone has been built into
1123
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:54,920
receiving system to make sure the
world's only whatever your is like like
1124
01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:57,320
like the same material world
1125
01:42:57,320 --> 01:43:02,719
the description of . the same material
world is perceived differently
1126
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:08,360
three years three verses are like the
box
1127
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:11,360
like
1128
01:43:16,579 --> 01:43:22,39
the fraction like the ability of the
specific Lydia augmented reality like
1129
01:43:22,39 --> 01:43:29,629
fracture and ideologies and like how you
interpret as economy is super super like
1130
01:43:29,629 --> 01:43:34,339
yeah right now school like they're
everywhere but like I systematically
1131
01:43:34,339 --> 01:43:38,809
always going to be the biggest anybody
1132
01:43:38,809 --> 01:43:48,649
it attacks of the grant anyone anyone
anyone can make a half the girl is your
1133
01:43:48,649 --> 01:43:49,600
reality
1134
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:52,880
yeah
1135
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:55,880
specific towards sitting yeah
1136
01:43:57,139 --> 01:44:01,790
history is needed in a trade in the
floor
1137
01:44:02,510 --> 01:44:19,340
yeah i'm going to be very very pretty
much the whole it's a security sort of
1138
01:44:19,340 --> 01:44:25,489
game preventing for people 14 for
example like a lead on a security and
1139
01:44:25,489 --> 01:44:30,349
again so if that we as popular as it
will be actually political or whatever
1140
01:44:30,350 --> 01:44:33,350
situation
1141
01:44:39,500 --> 01:44:41,350
I'm just thinking that sound
1142
01:44:41,350 --> 01:44:44,890
people can take the goggles and some
people can't write
1143
01:44:48,180 --> 01:44:51,880
yeah and if you can't believe it
1144
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:54,100
between the lines here to stay in
1145
01:44:54,100 --> 01:45:01,510
that's it
1146
01:45:02,500 --> 01:45:05,500
yeah
1147
01:45:07,130 --> 01:45:17,870
ok we're going here
1148
01:45:19,340 --> 01:45:29,810
are you my doctor and I can have a
machine play the disorder it's avoid
1149
01:45:29,810 --> 01:45:31,580
attacks and it's a sexy voice
1150
01:45:31,580 --> 01:45:40,250
it's a voice of X way now and wait -
what we want what is the world your
1151
01:45:40,250 --> 01:45:46,639
network that will be comparing sounds
versus science words like these men and
1152
01:45:46,639 --> 01:45:47,900
worse
1153
01:45:47,900 --> 01:45:52,219
- images google searches also label
1154
01:45:52,219 --> 01:45:58,219
I'm so hopefully in the nearish future
will be activating our conversation
1155
01:45:58,219 --> 01:46:08,300
images google search a little bit so we
can record a song recorded somebody the
1156
01:46:08,300 --> 01:46:10,699
but I i love it
1157
01:46:10,699 --> 01:46:14,360
audio is true i hope not
1158
01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:21,620
yeah first I really think the police
about it is
1159
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:27,679
haha because anything is going to school
for something later
1160
01:46:28,310 --> 01:46:31,430
yeah for this little program
1161
01:46:31,430 --> 01:46:37,910
so I don't I didn't develop I don't know
how it works and can probably get like
1162
01:46:37,910 --> 01:46:43,670
545
1163
01:46:44,210 --> 01:46:47,210
yeah that's what we're going to do in
this game
1164
01:46:47,750 --> 01:46:49,699
I next time
1165
01:46:49,699 --> 01:46:57,949
I hope we have a better version of it
and the ideas of these we know the
1166
01:46:57,949 --> 01:47:01,940
window in the website will be constantly
it will be like it's like an experiment
1167
01:47:02,690 --> 01:47:08,209
John space for the google web Commission
other developers and something happened
1168
01:47:08,209 --> 01:47:14,30
myself with the code and and and yes
just like we do
1169
01:47:14,869 --> 01:47:19,940
definitely a speech in through in making
sense you know I wanted what we are
1170
01:47:19,940 --> 01:47:21,379
learning so beautiful already
1171
01:47:21,380 --> 01:47:43,10
oh yes we will use up include a week
including doesn't really translate like
1172
01:47:43,10 --> 01:47:47,630
that like i would try interpret a sound
effect as as a word clink-clunk
1173
01:47:51,130 --> 01:47:56,800
I don't think so because on the sun
splash oh when I say spanish and english
1174
01:47:56,800 --> 01:48:05,860
english teacher what is prompted u.s. to
the idea of those fruit it goes
1175
01:48:05,860 --> 01:48:11,230
but but this is all that you and I are
you going
1176
01:48:11,230 --> 01:48:15,879
you're gonna curse and I don't know way
that you are feeling any better
1177
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:21,100
why you could it could be first I think
we throw away that the electric wire leg
1178
01:48:21,100 --> 01:48:27,40
raise half of the field in order but
they don't dig in already
1179
01:48:27,670 --> 01:48:31,60
yeah so we're building it all the way
through
1180
01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:47,590
yeah it doesn't this holy place you have
to program all again for the yeah
1181
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:57,239
but look like an open source - it's for
a to make some things but it's a crease
1182
01:48:57,239 --> 01:49:00,388
and Adam and Josh and dial
1183
01:49:08,340 --> 01:49:20,10
ok next time we're meeting next time
we're meeting on the second the almost
1184
01:49:20,10 --> 01:49:21,360
here
1185
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:26,820
here that's a vm with will email you
anyone
1186
01:49:27,869 --> 01:49:34,380
there's already one morning really make
it today wants to keep the percent of
1187
01:49:34,380 --> 01:49:35,159
lacks tact
1188
01:49:35,159 --> 01:49:36,138
bye
1189
01:49:36,139 --> 01:49:41,959
your brother and so that might be one of
the readings we have enough we have I
1190
01:49:41,959 --> 01:49:48,229
mean it's called that but you guys have
a wonderful here and look at where I'm
1191
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really want to present that section
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01:50:03,79 --> 01:50:09,648
yeah yeah if you want to share a great
one but it might be worth texas
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why don't we open a lock we share it and
we should have a framework in a couple
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of sentences and then we finally , there
are things and and we figure out how
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what yeah
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ok down curious and not think about this
text but maybe I can prompt or sounds no
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music or cold
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is that like a special so types of
things directly related to do you think
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this program have a projector and
actually
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01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:09,760
ok
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everything that we share everything and
more
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01:51:30,480 --> 01:51:41,549
yeah the one that is already settled for
an exception for you
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yeah yes