At that point of the game, I needed to eliminate REDS. (Later I needed to eliminate villagers and MR25) but there was a lot if discussion ( I think started by PB) that Factorial was just a dumb noob villager. I had to change that perception so that Factorial would become more of a suspect.

I never would have outted your relationship though, I hope you know that.

I had to keep PB alive there. The only way I'd win was to kill the Angel (MR25) with a day vote. My biggest risk was that PB would see how obvious his being a RED was and use that to wonder what the hell I was up to.

Obviously sideline thoughts here, but yeah, PB was obviously red. It made no sense that MR wasn't the angel. EPP, I thought you were either really, really bad at the game or must have had some sort of side role since you refused to vote for PB. You played Peckey well.

MWB wrote:Obviously sideline thoughts here, but yeah, PB was obviously red. It made no sense that MR wasn't the angel. EPP, I thought you were either really, really bad at the game or must have had some sort of side role since you refused to vote for PB. You played Peckey well.

NOTES:- No vigilante. Thought the game would be unbalanced with one. The Stig kinda replaced it.- Don't know why MRandall didn't switch his vote to EPP on Day 7. That would have tied it up and resulted in no kill that day.

I don't think I'll do an independent again. columbia won as Rasputin and now EPP wins (with even fewer powers) as The Stig. Indpendents aren't suppose to win, yet they've won both times I put them in ...

- Pavel wins if he kills EPP and EPP kills Pecky- Pavel also wins if both he and EPP kill Pecky (EPP would be out of saves and kills)- Pecky wins if Pavel and EPP kill each other- If Pavel kills Pecky and EPP doesn't kill, then presumably they'd kill each other the following night and everything would be laid waste

- Pavel wins if he kills EPP and EPP kills Pecky- Pavel also wins if both he and EPP kill Pecky (EPP would be out of saves and kills)- Pecky wins if Pavel and EPP kill each other- If Pavel kills Pecky and EPP doesn't kill, then presumably they'd kill each other the following night and everything would be laid waste

Yeah, when I got down to having all the reds but PB killed AND all the villagers but Pecky, and the Angel, there was only one way I could win. I had to convince Pavel to join me in day killing the Angel (MR25) AND make Pavel Bure think that Pecky was a bigger threat to him than I was.

CBear3 wrote:MWB is a wasted vote. As rel said, he's really good for the village and WK knows it, that's why he threw him under the bus on his way out the door. It's his attempt to take a good villager out of the picture so his own (WK's) death isn't in vain.

And in a particularly fine bit of irony, you ended up making it SO much less in vain by exposing yourself here.

CBear3 wrote:MWB is a wasted vote. As rel said, he's really good for the village and WK knows it, that's why he threw him under the bus on his way out the door. It's his attempt to take a good villager out of the picture so his own (WK's) death isn't in vain.

And in a particularly fine bit of irony, you ended up making it SO much less in vain by exposing yourself here.

I know, I hoped MRandall would see that and save me, but he didn't catch on.The guys I had seen kept dying, so instead of narrowing my choices I was right back at square one. I suppose, knowing now that my suspicions were right, I should have kept my mouth shut, but at the time I was frustrated that all my sees were wasted.