So i am getting ready to sell my 2011 azodin blitz due to it being a piece of junk and me becoming a woodsball player. What is a good woodsball gun that you recommend i get? Around 150 - 200 range and good upgrades for them.

I have been looking at the Tippman A5 due to all the upgrades you can get for tippmans. I really like the x7 aswell its just out of my price range.

Both of those are awful, the Phenom is worse than the G1 in just about ever way, and the A5 is total dogshit compared to any paintball gun you can buy, the RAP4 T68 is the only gun I can think of thats worse than it.

The G1 is the best milsim gun unless you have $1000 for the Bob Long MTAC.

While the G1 is a really nice marker, it's not a "milsim" marker (tactical rails do not make it "milsim) as it does not actually "simulate" any real world gun.

Tippman A5's are actually quite nice, but in a different way than how speedball markers are judged. They are solid markers, handle a huge amount of abuse and even some neglect, have more upgrades (cosmetic and some performance) available than any 10 other markers combined, and have been around awhile, so they're a proven design.

What A5's are not, is just about everything that a speedballer looks for in a marker (which is why they get so much hate here on Techpb). They're not light, they're not "smooth" shooting, they're not "fast" (ie can fire 30+bps reliably), not easy on paint (cannot handle thin shelled tourny paint... only thicker shelled woodsball paint), they're not quiet (possibly the loudest damn marker in existence), and they're not small in profile (you'll get hit in the cyclone on occasion).

If none of those things matter to you, they're awesome markers to own. You can dress them up any way you like, they really make you feel badass (try carrying around one done up like a Barett .50cal sniper rifle, and you'll feel like a bad MOFO), and they'll keep firing with a minimum of maintenance. A5's are more for shiggles than anything else... when having fun is more important that "performance".

The G1, on the other hand, is basically a speedball marker with a bunch of useless rails mounted all over it. Will "outperform" an A5 any day of the week, by speedballer standards, but they're not really in the same catagory as milsim markers like the Tippys.

I would check out the BT TM7 or TM15 if you're looking for a mil-sim "tacticool" marker.

Another good one to look at if you don't mind using a mech would be the Tiberius T9 Ranger. What's cool about this one is it can be a pistol or a rifle, and can be hopper fed or mag fed. And if it's a T9.1, you can also use First Strike rounds.

While the G1 is a really nice marker, it's not a "milsim" marker (tactical rails do not make it "milsim) as it does not actually "simulate" any real world gun.

Tippman A5's are actually quite nice, but in a different way than how speedball markers are judged. They are solid markers, handle a huge amount of abuse and even some neglect, have more upgrades (cosmetic and some performance) available than any 10 other markers combined, and have been around awhile, so they're a proven design.

What A5's are not, is just about everything that a speedballer looks for in a marker (which is why they get so much hate here on Techpb). They're not light, they're not "smooth" shooting, they're not "fast" (ie can fire 30+bps reliably), not easy on paint (cannot handle thin shelled tourny paint... only thicker shelled woodsball paint), they're not quiet (possibly the loudest damn marker in existence), and they're not small in profile (you'll get hit in the cyclone on occasion).

If none of those things matter to you, they're awesome markers to own. You can dress them up any way you like, they really make you feel badass (try carrying around one done up like a Barett .50cal sniper rifle, and you'll feel like a bad MOFO), and they'll keep firing with a minimum of maintenance. A5's are more for shiggles than anything else... when having fun is more important that "performance".

The G1, on the other hand, is basically a speedball marker with a bunch of useless rails mounted all over it. Will "outperform" an A5 any day of the week, by speedballer standards, but they're not really in the same catagory as milsim markers like the Tippys.

Wow, I can almost smell the speedball haterade oozing out of this post.

I've shot a buddy's A5, and your synopsis of it is pretty much correct. Heavy as hell, very slow ROF, shoots like crap, can't handle all types of paint, loud as hell. The only redeeming feature is that "you can make it look like a real rifle"!!! Then a month or two later after the novelty of how "real" it looks wears off, what are you left with? A really crappy, loud as hell gun that gets out-shot by pretty much everything else on the field (except for the aforementioned Rap4 pieces of garbage).

IMO, get a speedball marker and use it for woodsball. Having a gun that has "the look" is satisfying until you're getting shot out early every game. The GOG G1 would be a good middle-of-the-road between these two extremes. Do hardcore MilSim players really not care about having a high ROF and a quiet gun? Seems like those two attributes would be a great asset in woodsball: Power & Stealth.

And you said a bad marker would handicap the player severely? That's wrong, look at pump players, their markers aren't bad, but they handicap themselves and I see them doing more than people with electric markers.

I've shot a Tippy 98, like we all did when we first started out renting. The accuracy on that gun is horrible, paint flies around everywhere. That's a pretty big handicap, even for the most seasoned player.

I've shot a Tippy 98, like we all did when we first started out renting. The accuracy on that gun is horrible, paint flies around everywhere. That's a pretty big handicap, even for the most seasoned player.

I've shot a Tippy 98, like we all did when we first started out renting. The accuracy on that gun is horrible, paint flies around everywhere. That's a pretty big handicap, even for the most seasoned player.

At least a good pump gun is accurate.

As long as you take care of it and make sure the barrel stays clean, a 98 will work just fine. The last few times I've played I've used my mag fed project Salvon (98 internals) and that's been plenty accurate.

I've shot a Tippy 98, like we all did when we first started out renting. The accuracy on that gun is horrible, paint flies around everywhere. That's a pretty big handicap, even for the most seasoned player.

At least a good pump gun is accurate.

That's why they sucked for you.Using a gun that's been hardly maintained and tossed from person to person more than a village whore is hardly a fair way to compare the marker.Cheap paint and lack of proper maintenance are what would lead to the inaccuracy of the gun, not the design itself.

Back when I had my A5, it shot just as straight as my Shocker and Vibe Blackheart. Yes, Tippy's are inefficient and bulky, but if you get free air and have arms bigger than a pencil, that's not a problem.

Using a gun that's been hardly maintained and tossed from person to person more than a village whore is hardly a fair way to compare the marker.

I would not recommend a gun that has any exposed moving parts (egos or anything with a bolt pin) simply because dirt and sand could get into the bolt and scratch the hell out of the inside or if dirt gets in there some how.

With a spool valve or inline poppet, you wont have any issues if you drop it in mud, sand, water, etc etc as long as it didnt get into your hopper. and fed into the breech.

Also take note that not all current markers can handle co2 so if you're looking into a speedball marker type of deal, look into the ones that can handle co2 because co2 is sometimes more easily accessible compared to HPA.

I would recommend the G1/SP1. They are very reliable, lighter than a tippy, and shoots buttery smooth. A lot of people like to shoot tippy or any type of blowback marker because it kicks and makes loud noises. The advantage with using a spool like the G1/SP1 is that it's quiet and shoots very smoothly. This allows you to take a few shots before you're noticed vs a tippy where it would give your position away. Sure the spool valve type markers don't kick and isn't as realistic as real guns but that's a purely personal preference. If you want loud and kicky rambo style marker, tippys are the way to go, if you want to be effective on the battle field with a lot of features that cost hundreds more on a tippmann, look into an SP1.

But if you like tippmanns so much, then by all means go a head, We're here to give you information and options, it's inevitably your decision on what you want to do.

So you want a gun you can throw a bunch of cosmetic upgrades on? How about browsing B/S/T for something you think looks cool. Everybody's got modded out Tippy's, just make them an offer and be on your way.

I'm speaking from my own experience, Tippman 98's are shit. If you've had better experiences with them, good for you.

Like I said: if you love the 98 so much, sell your gun and just rent. You'll have a lot more money for paint!

You probably used a 98 that wasn't well kept, I'm getting an axe but not because my 98 doesn't shoot perfect, I just want faster lighter gun, but if you truly beleive that a 98 can't shoot well your only decivion yourself. I play against people who are shooting way better guns but my 98 shoots on target all day, it's stock but I have people asking me all day if I put a e trigger on it because of how fast I can shoot it. Put probably four cases through it not one break, and I mean zero. I clean it after every day of play.

I've shot a Tippy 98, like we all did when we first started out renting. The accuracy on that gun is horrible, paint flies around everywhere. That's a pretty big handicap, even for the most seasoned player.

At least a good pump gun is accurate.

Using a gun that's been hardly maintained and tossed from person to person more than a village whore is hardly a fair way to compare the marker.