"We were at Thanksgiving a couple of years ago, and my grandpa's this very tough guy. He started grilling Michael -- what is your family like, what are your job aspirations, what are your goals in life -- and I think Michael kind of started to squirm."

"So we finished dinner and we went to the kitchen to have dessert. There was a pumpkin pie and a pecan pie out, and my grandpa said, 'Ellie, what kind of pie are you gonna have?' and I said, 'I don't know, grandpa. They both look really good. I think I'll have pecan.' He said, 'Are you sure, Ellie, because it's okay to keep your options open. You don't have to settle on a pie right now.'"

"He was like, 'Who knows what other pies might present themselves? Maybe your mom has a blueberry crumple in the back. Maybe Mrs. Burke will stop by with an apple crisp,'" Kemper recalled. "I looked at over at Michael who's stricken, because obviously, he thinks he's talking about Michael."