I wonder, did anyone get banned for it? can they actually detect it? how can they suddenly enforce it now when it's been a problem for years now?

Well, technically speaking, the only way to be completely sure you're using pedal/macro is to catch a video of you showing it (e.g. your own pk video) or by collecting an evidence where you admit using it.

NTTGame can't tell what your USB mouse does for you (same thing applies on a pedal) but they can detect which softwares you have running in the background.

For instance, Logitech Gaming Software, which is not necessarily meant for macro but you can also set macros for your gaming keyboard/mice (as long as it's supported and compatible), they can only assume you're using it for setting macro, they can't see your actual settings.

With that being said, based on my experience, many of these blockages/punishments are based on the acting GM's discretion.

On one hand, a GM could give you the benefit of the doubt and don't act unless he has a solid proof of you using it and on another hand, he could be throwing users to jail / block them just because he's "sure" you're using it.

Well, technically speaking, the only way to be completely sure you're using pedal/macro is to catch a video of you showing it (e.g. your own pk video) or by collecting an evidence where you admit using it.

NTTGame can't tell what your USB mouse does for you (same thing applies on a pedal) but they can detect which softwares you have running in the background.

For instance, Logitech Gaming Software, which is not necessarily meant for macro but you can also set macros for your gaming keyboard/mice (as long as it's supported and compatible), they can only assume you're using it for setting macro, they can't see your actual settings.

With that being said, based on my experience, many of these blockages/punishments are based on the acting GM's discretion.

On one hand, a GM could give you the benefit of the doubt and don't act unless he has a solid proof of you using it and on another hand, he could be throwing users to jail / block them just because he's "sure" you're using it.

so let me get this straight, they can simply ban someone just because they believe he's using it?

basically, i might or might not be using it but can get banned or tped to jail just because some gm believe I use it?

so let me get this straight, they can simply ban someone just because they believe he's using it?

basically, i might or might not be using it but can get banned or tped to jail just because some gm believe I use it?

Well, I'm no longer lurking around official forums as much so I have no idea whether this topic should be taken seriously or not, but, usually, there's at least one staff member who would get involved in such punishments when there's no evidence behind it.

Speaking from experience, it's not always easy to reach the right person but I don't think you should be worried about getting banned if you're not using it, or if you are but there's no way to prove that you're actually using it.

From my understanding they can actually monitor your key presses in real time. So, it’s pretty obvious at that point.

14 minutes ago, HenkaN said:

Not impossble at all, same as they probably log what hardware you’re on. Making the true pedal/boxes/custom ko mouse turks manifacture for KO harder to use.

However it’s not 1998 anymore, those systems can be outsmarted with software quite easily now depending on how much time they put in thir ’detection of kepress’ software.

It's true that technically speaking it's most likely possible but you'd be surprised how powerless GMs at official versions are when it comes to such subjects, not much they can do without an actual evidence.

Xigncode might be able to detect what software you have running but when it comes to hardware, I think only in SteamKO it's possible to somewhat do something against it.

For instance, when TPT users get blocked at STKO they don't just get blocked, their mac address get blocked as well but it's network's card mac address, meaning it could be easily changed.

I don't recall someone getting blocked through MAC address at USKO, with that being said, I did a small research and couldn't find anything that would actually backup that topic, they say they will punish users who use it but without any evidence, not much they can do, or at least, should do.

so here is the thing, I know when it comes to enforcing such subjects ko never been good unless a solid evidence was provided.

but i also remember many players getting banned in the past just because someone "thought" they're cheating.

that is what concerns me, whether i'm using it or not, doesn't matter, question is if I can be banned for not using it because someone (when I say someone I refer to GMs) believes I'm using it.

i was told many players are being punished rightfully these days though, just unsure how they're going to enforce the macro / pedal part, other subjects like koxp i understand but this.. especially when you say they can't exactly do much themselves without an actual evidence..

so here is the thing, I know when it comes to enforcing such subjects ko never been good unless a solid evidence was provided.

but i also remember many players getting banned in the past just because someone "thought" they're cheating.

that is what concerns me, whether i'm using it or not, doesn't matter, question is if I can be banned for not using it because someone (when I say someone I refer to GMs) believes I'm using it.

i was told many players are being punished rightfully these days though, just unsure how they're going to enforce the macro / pedal part, other subjects like koxp i understand but this.. especially when you say they can't exactly do much themselves without an actual evidence..

Well, as I said earlier, as long as there's no solid proof of you using a pedal or macro of some sort, there's nothing to be worried about.

Worst case scenario, you get blocked and then unblocked due to lack of evidence, but I highly doubt it'll happen anyway.

With that being said, it's true that many players were blocked wrongfully, I've been a witness of a few cases myself but at the end of the day, they all got unblocked so I wouldn't worry too much as long as there's nothing that would indicate that you're indeed using it.