Hi. Now the 4th attempt was dissapointing too and after hours of trying this and that. It seems that this device is a waste of time. I've tried everything and read just about every post on this website and still I get nowhere.

Maybe I don't have the bits the rest of you do ? ! Or maybe you are all employees of HIH? Who knows?

What ever it is or where I'm going wrong it still feel llke a rock up my ass that does no good at all.

I'll give it one more go. If nothing happens I'll consider my Helix to be a rip off and try to get my money back.Bob

You are experiencing the same frustration shared by many of us. I have also tried the Helix several times without any success whatsoever, not a single pleasurable sensation. I chuckled when you called it a rock up your ass because I had always thought it felt like a "log up my ass." The more experienced users just keep saying we should be patient, but even if this thing ever does start working for me at some point, it will have been far more work than the advertising lets on. Most of the testimonials I have read (on this website and others) indicate I can expect a very pleasurable experience almost immediately with little to no effort. I'm sure this varies somewhat from person to person, but after trying this damn thing about a dozen times with no positive results, I'm about ready to conclude I was sold a bill of goods. I may get blasted by some of the other users for saying that, but what the hell, it's the truth. I truly hope that others are able to have a better experience than I, but this thing just doesn't seem to work for some of us.

I agree totally. Great marketing. I think the people this succeeds for are the same people that ejaculate in their pants just thinking about sex.I think this works for some just out of pure erotica more than biological reasons.

Bobby, let me save you some time...don't bother trying this one more time. It will NEVER work for you with your present mindset. You tried this 4 times and it didn't work! I guess, you never learned how to ride a bicycle!! Sorry, I don't mean to sound harsh, but really, you guys aren't giving this a fair shake. Tal, you stated that you tried it a dozen times with no success. I guess you're a lurker like me because I've never seen you seeking help or advice that might have made a difference.

My own success with this came after 4 months of effort. Was it frustrating at times..sure. At a particular point though, I kind of made a leap of faith (I trusted that the users in this forum were not a bunch of shills, as you've alleged*) and figured that I'd postpone my expectation,..become open ended with my patience and just see what happened. Did it happen the next day? No. But within several weeks of that I did start to observe some new things happening. Sensations occurring on a very subtle level at first, certainly not orgasmic, but very interesting nonetheless. Within the weeks that followed these subtle sensations seemed to increase in magnitude such that I would say they were downright pleasurable. And so it went for almost a month until, wham...I exploded with one of the most intense orgasmic experiences of my life.

With regard to this all being some sort of hoax, let's be clear here, not to take anything away from the manufacturers of the Aneros, but the concept of the whole body-non-ejaculatory orgasm is hardly new! In reality it goes back centuries with Taoist and Tantra teachings.

What you guys have brought to light, is the reason that Western societies have been so slow to catch on to this. That is, we all want it now! We have been geared to immediacy. The thinking goes.. if it can't be had immediately, then it is of little intrinsic value. This is particularly the case when it comes to sexual gratification...with men specifically. This is reinforced by the fact that OUR primary means of obtaining orgasm (an ejaculation) is all too easy to achieve.

If anything is clear to me now, it's that this alternate path simply can't be viewed in the same terms. It's far too different. BH, your evaluation of the users around here couldn't be farther from the truth. The guys around here aren't just a bunch of hair-triggers, who become orgasmic with a handshake. By in large they're a group of people exploring their sexuality, searching for a new experience.

In conclusion, contrary to my original statement, I hope you guys can turn your heads around a bit and open yourselves up, and stick with it. It is worth it, regardless of how much time it takes. If the notion of working with this for continued sessions offends you, consider working with this in a smaller way. Don't place as much importance on achievement here. See it as sensual exploration! Drag it out occasionally, and give it a whirl..the idea being, to keep it in play. If you've got a great deal of preconceived notions going into this, (and you're not able to clear that stuff upfront, like I've suggested), then you're going to have to be caught unawares. Yes, I've seen posts from some who reported this happening. The tag line being....I'd just about given up or I really never thought this would work for me, then one day...

Keeping good thoughts for you guys,

Jim

* With respect to the advanced users being confederates of the company, I should mention that many have listed their email addresses here. From personal experience I can tell you that these people seem to be concerned with nothing other than enabling the successes of others.

I am sorry to hear that you are unhappy with your Aneros and that you feel that you are subject to misleading claims and information propagated by contributors to the Aneros forum. I write to reassure you that I (and for sure many others) am/are independent autonomous Aneros purchasers/users and not connected in any way to Aneros' marketing effort and that we offer the support to new users entirely in good faith and without prejudice. What we offer is a supportive community based on our (many) very personal and differing experiences. The principle of the use of an Aneros device is based on well established physiological responses to stimulation of the prostate and perineal area - responses not the subject of 'magic' or deceit. My apologies for my adoption of (for me) a stronger tone than is usual but am concerned for your cynicism regarding the Aneros. Clearly, if your experiences are as you each relate, then you may need to take stock of where you are amongst all this. If you are failing to receive any form of stimulation from the device and if you are committed to continue - and still fail to make progress - you may want to address this issue with your health professional.Please be assured of my (and others') sincerity in the belief of what the Aneros can offer. We have 'lived' it! It does work and is not the subject of any sort of 'hype'.

Hmmm interesting.. I have had my Aneros a few months now and belive me I have tried everything but to no avail. I have loads of spare time and have even slept with it in. I do however find it interesting that some members "seem" to be able to have an orgasm with it. I am not narrow minded at all. I have to say I am Sceptical though. That said, after using the Aneros I decided to buy my wife something to stimulate my prostate..... Sorry but it was 10X better than the Aneros

Guys - stick with it! As Jimbo says - till the Aneros came along we (in the main) are conditioned through experience (in a solo context) to delight in the penile masturbatory ejaculatory orgasm. Your body and importantly your mind is being asked to deal with a very similar (and yet dissimilar) - but not yet 'learned' kind of stimulation that has a somewhat different set of outcomes. This can take time.

I've experimented with my wife also (she using a variety of devices on me anally). Although I enjoy these things, they are distinctly different from the type of experience that the Aneros has afforded me. Again, they in effect enhance the penile ejaculatory experience. All of it's good, but it isn't the Super O. As Calton has said, this does take time, and a committment to generating an orgasmic experience that IS NOT penile in origin.

Jim

P.S. Calton, I've been reading your posts with interest, you should think about adding your email so users can coorespond with you. It's clear that you have a lot to offer.

Firstly. thank you all for replying. Let me assure you that I am approaching the Aneros with an open mind, body and ass hole! Just a joke!

I have no reason to not want to succeed with the device. But what are we (those without success) to think. The instructions on the package do make light work of using the Aneros. I am following the advice posted here and have made every effort to follow and take heed of the experts.

I do really find it hard to understand why I will achieve so much more success next month or next year or next week. What changes? My body? Really, nothing. In fact I would think that the longer one tries and fails the more likely it is to totally loose heart, become despondent and just give up.

I just don't see how I can work my body any differently, or how much more I can do to make this thing work.

I have no sex issues at all and I can assure you all that my bits work very well. Having always had anal play rejected by my small minded and selfish wife I unfortunately have no prior experience to pin my efforts and internal feelings on. I've tried to reach my prostrate but could never reach it.

I've even Googled for medical images to be sure I understand the terminology and know where the zones and muscle groups are that I am supposed to be working.

So really there is nothing more I can do but continue to drive this rock up my ass and pull and push on it until the day cums or does not cum that I either give up or am blissfully happy.

This isn’t about the money for the device, it’s about the will to archive something special and new, but it does seem very illusive as does the chance of me winning the national lottery. It’s all about winning numbers. Right?

Your scepticism persists! What more can I (we) say here. In physical terms, as you relate, prostate stimulation is new to you and wonder if this is a case of your body needing an element of training to assimilate the new sensations. One wouldn't (hopefully) contemplate a marathon - or sprint - without developing the body to an appropriate standard in advance to confront the task in hand. The other thing to remember is that one would need to mentally prepare and engage the mind all the while, too. It wouldn't (I certainly understand!) be good enough to turn up with the running shoes on - then suitably acquit yourself in the race! Silly analogy I know and I don't mean to belittle your efforts or your lack of success but I feel that you should persist. I commend B F Mayfield's many postings to you if you are serious in your commitment to pursuing success here. I can't make it any clearer that it is not a question of lubing up,'sticking the thing in', pulling a few contractions, then sitting back and waiting for a subliminal experience to drop on you from the sky! I would be extremely surprised if that was to happen. Again, let me reassure you that I do mean to be supportive here - so please do not misinterpret my very direct words for anything other than concern for your success.

BobbyG,I was in your position when I first purchased and used my aneros as well. And at this point, although I have not yet reached the super-o, I most certainly have made continued progress throughout each session I spend with the device, so I certainly remain hopeful. I have been making a dedicated effort for myself, as well as other users to share as much as I can about what has/hasn't worked in hopes of helping others, and receiving help myself with this. If you care to hear more about my experiences, please feel free to read my thread here:

Hi. If I can ask one thing to better understand if I'm doing this right?

Those of you that have success with this device.

Do you...

1)Lie still in your favorite position and just work you muscles. Totally internally.

OR

2)Move around with you buttocks - still "hands free" but rotate perhaps in a circular motion. Push down on the bed to gain movement of the Aneros to achive stimulation to your internals?

I am trying to get a grip on the methology here.

If I just lay very still and push, squeeze, wrench, tighten and lossen up, I get nowhere. OK, I do get a mild feeling that I want to pee, but that I just ignore.

If I move around, then in turn, this moves the device and at least I get some feedback from it and can steer it around my body. Left, right, round and round, up and down.

Dunno if I would ever get me off tho, but I did give me a very hard, hard on. So am I on my way to that big "O" in the sky or just doing it all wrong?

I feel quite sure if I am supposed to just lay still then I don't think I'll ever get anywhere with this because there is altogether too little movement of the device no matter how soft or hard I go through the motions.

The Aneros is designed to work without any kind of manipulation other than muscular contractions and in conjunction with controlled breathing. You should not have to move around as you describe - because of the sensitivity of the particular area this will probably inhibit rather than support the likelihood of provoking a Super O. I do however arch my back and raise and lower my hips which does create extra sensation but I don't generally move around in any other way. It is unlikely to happen too, if you imagine that you can somehow 'flick' a switch and there it is. You have to generate a high level of sexual awareness and create a 'sensate focus' to your body's responses.Trail through some of the many threads to understand what you can expect. These offer much friendly user guidance. B F Mayfield has compiled an abridged version of his experiences and wisdom - you will find it in and other advice under his name and along with some from 'support', all in the Bee Lines.

Hmm. Interesting. I wonder if there are more ways to skin a cat as they say.

Because by moving around I get a nice kick out of it. True, to say that I don't know where that in it's self may take me. The thing is I don't think that I'm ever going to get that finite feel that you seem to have for this device. It just don't happen. Not that I'm not trying because I am.

But just laying there like a 4 by 2 plank of MDF doesn't do it for me.Perhaps I'm in a hurry. that's been said enuf times here, but having no prior experiance I'm stuck. All I know is that it feels real nice if I move around.

For now I think I'll keep doing both. Maybe one day your version will work, but all my attempts so far have got me nowhere at all except fustrated. Not even a drop of precum.

For the record I have read Mayfields suff. But it works for him and not for me - so far - so good luck to him.

The reason my techniques have worked for me, and others I might add, is that they have been applied consistently over a period of time. One or two sessions are insufficient to develop any kind of results. As with so many worthwhile things in life...this too requires a certain amount of discipline to achieve. Applying a technique or series of techniques over an extended period of time is the only way that one can reliably evaluate a method.

That said, although I personally didn't have any success with the more physically active approach, I am aware that there are others who have. Consequently, I wouldn't necessarily discourage you from doing some exploration with this (so long as you avoid ANY penile contact or pressure of any sort). Again, it is essential that you begin to develop sensation from within. I would also encourage you to return to the more passive mode from time to time. Furthermore, it is also possible to incorporate some of my ideas on visualization, breathing and different kinds of contractions within the context of the more physically active approach. Explore with all of it!

Above and beyond that, it is too early to get frustrated with this. Get over it! Really, it is critical that you turn yourself around on this. Impatience and frustration are deal breakers. Commit yourself to a more long term approach now, and be pleasantly surprised if something clicks for you sooner.

Just to add a word of encouragement from a non-Super-O, but happy, user:

I've had the Helix for several months, and an older model from before that. I've never reached the Super-O, but I've come close several times. I'm generally an analytic/scientific person, so I when I first started using the Aneros I was probably like you BobbyG -- thinking that it was just a matter of understanding the physiology and finding/holding the right pressure point. As we all know, it isn't that simple...

The way I've been able to make progress is by thinking less and not trying so hard to make something happen. It's not purely physical, it's also psychological and/or chemical -- hence the emphasis on relaxation, breathing, visualization. Your brain is going to cause a lot of the sensations, so that requires a different approach from the old familiar masturbation.

People talk about exploring new sensations with the Aneros -- my advice would be to watch some good porn or read some erotica during your sessions. You need to be "turned on" and that can be difficult if you're just lying there waiting for the Aneros to work its magic, wondering what you're doing wrong, getting frustrated, etc. Get part of your mind off the Aneros itself with some stimulating distractions. It will take time (perhaps weeks/months) but it's a process of adjusting and becoming aware of new sensations.

Good luck!

p.s. In terms of my own approach, I lie on my back with knees drawn up at about 10 and 2, pillows under my head/neck/upper back so I can watch porn at the same time. You may need to use pillows to support your lower back and keep the handle from making contact with the bed. I try to just hold a moderate contraction in both the PC and sphincter muscles. No other large motions that would affect the Aneros.

Well it's good to see you guys have calmed down a bit. Most of the initial emotional reactions missed the point of my original post. Jimbo, how nice that these techniques have been around for centuries, and I'm happy for you that you've finally achieved some level of satisfaction, but neither of these address my points, which were:

1) The advertising gives a false impression that success will be achieved quickly. Whether or not success can be achieved eventually, with enough work and patience, is completely beside the point. This is a no-brainer....read the testimonials, then read the forum. Compare the success rates described in each and you will notice a major discrepancy. Jimbo, before you purchased your first bike, I doubt the manufacturer gave you any assurances you would be able to learn to ride it on your first or second try. You bought the bike knowing up front it could take many, many trials. And whether we, as a society, want immediate gratification is also beside the point. The question is, were we led to believe we could expect immediate gratification by Aneros? If you’re going to tell me I should have read the forums before purchasing, may I respectfully point out the Aneros line is distributed through several different outlets, most of which give no indication this forum even exists.

2) The possibility the Helix may not work for all men. This seems to be a possibility you guys simply cannot bear to come to grips with. I'm sure most of you advanced users are well aware of the fact the MGX has undergone some changes to make it more effective. Could it be that the Helix might also benefit from some changes to make it more effective for a wider range of physiques? The manufacturers will never know there are any dissatisfied users if they aren't allowed to share their disappointment in this forum without getting bashed. Also, bear in mind that for every user who has the guts to post their dissatisfaction, there many be several other “lurkers” out there who don’t speak up because they just don’t want to take this kind of crap from you guys.

I hope the steam is not blowing out of your kettles over this because I have never accused any of you of being a “shill” or of not being willing to help when asked. My reference to being “sold a bill of goods” was clearly directed at the manufacturer for the reasons stated above.

The reason my techniques have worked for me, and others I might add, is that they have been applied consistently over a period of time. One or two sessions are insufficient to develop any kind of results. As with so many worthwhile things in life...this too requires a certain amount of discipline to achieve. Applying a technique or series of techniques over an extended period of time is the only way that one can reliably evaluate a method.

That said, although I personally didn't have any success with the more physically active approach, I am aware that there are others who have. Consequently, I wouldn't necessarily discourage you from doing some exploration with this (so long as you avoid ANY penile contact or pressure of any sort). Again, it is essential that you begin to develop sensation from within. I would also encourage you to return to the more passive mode from time to time. Furthermore, it is also possible to incorporate some of my ideas on visualization, breathing and different kinds of contractions within the context of the more physically active approach. Explore with all of it!

Above and beyond that, it is too early to get frustrated with this. Get over it! Really, it is critical that you turn yourself around on this. Impatience and frustration are deal breakers. Commit yourself to a more long term approach now, and be pleasantly surprised if something clicks for you sooner.

Stay with it!

BF Mayfield

Hi BF. I've read just about all you've written and do hear you. But to be honest I have the impression that for you just about anything will get you off. You could probably get off by shaking your leg while standing up drinking a beer in a bar which is great for you. Wish I could!

Maybe you were just blessed with an ass made for anal. You evidentially have the mental and physical control needed. Which is great for you. We aren’t all like that though.

You write that you feel your points were not addressed but also misunderstood. I will stand up and speak on behalf (as I believe I am one) of those at whom you point your finger!

First, there is no steam and certainly no acrimony! Don't confuse the good intentions of those who want to share their journeys - some successful - others still travelling (with hope and commitment) - with smugness! Our intentions are I'm sure clear, our sincerity not in question. Moreover, I am not aware of anyone in these threads being responsible for possibly subjecting more reluctant and unsuccessful users (and fearful of posting) to what you describe as 'this kind of crap'. At the same time as suggesting this you acknowledge that we are not 'shilling' - rather your stab is at the manufacturers of (or those marketing) the Aneros. Only you can answer the question you raise. Were you promised 'immediate gratification' by Aneros?

Second - the matter regarding individual advantages of one model over another is addressed within the Aneros range but there is obviously (as you obliquely observe) a programme that makes changes to develop the product. Whether this is as a result of new (research) information becoming available or feedback in response to user experience, perhaps Aneros can tell you. Clearly they take action with the intention of bringing an improved product to the marketplace.

So - no steam! No crap! If you remain unsatisfied, why not try contacting Aneros themselves. These are my personal observations - as I stated in a previous post I have no connection with Aneros at any level.Steam free ... and goodnaturedly, my (our) defence rests.

I would have to admit; you are correct, ....it takes very little to get me started these days. As a matter of fact, I don't require any anal stimulation at all. Yes, I am able to make myself come from mental focus and a few choice contractions or some creative breathing alone (albeit, not as intensely as with the Aneros). But if you’re under the impression that this has all come easily to me, you are very much mistaken. I should tell you that I've been involved in my own journey for over 3 years now, and that there were a great many months of this journey that were characterized by abject failure.

If you read some of my earliest comments, you'd find out that I had one initial success that was followed by many months of frustration. The truth is, that I found out about frustration and its stunting effects because I had to work through it myself. Most of the techniques and observations that I've described are the result of my own evolution. So you see, when I say that success requires time and patience and the proper attitude, I know this from personal experience. I've had a great ride with all of this though, and frankly I don't regret that it took me some time to develop my own consistency. The truth is, I believe that I learned a lot about myself (and the Super O) in the process.

Most of what I've written about thus far has been offered in an effort to provide a shorter track for others. If my advice has seemed glib from time to time, it is unintentional. It's just that very often, I've observed users getting bogged down with a lot of stuff that obscures the path for them. And my way at that point is to attempt to redirect them.

The one thing that I am certain of now is that there is not one single path that will hold the key for everyone. Rather it is a series of strategies that must be quietly and subtly applied over a period of time. Likewise, it is essential that one is really open to this experience, because the experience and the process go hand and hand. And by the way, simply wanting the experience does not constitute being open to it. As I’ve stated so many times, frustration, impatience and self-doubt work against ones success in a major way. Persevering over these obstacles and continuing to explore while maintaining a level of interest and curiosity is what being open is all about. It’s a Zen thing!

I assure you that the results ARE worth the effort. Stay with it!

BF Mayfield

P.S. I'll have to get back to ya on that beerbar, leg shaking technique :-)

The one thing that I am certain of now is that there is not one single path that will hold the key for everyone. Rather it is a series of strategies that must be quietly and subtly applied over a period of time. Likewise, it is essential that one is really open to this experience, because the experience and the process go hand and hand. And by the way, simply wanting the experience does not constitute being open to it. As I’ve stated so many times, frustration, impatience and self-doubt work against ones success in a major way. Persevering over these obstacles and continuing to explore while maintaining a level of interest and curiosity is what being open is all about. It’s a Zen thing!

I assure you that the results ARE worth the effort. Stay with it!

BF Mayfield

Well expressed BFM. I share and endorse your sentiments. I will now resume my 'seiza' posture!

I've not had the time to tackle the Aneros properly even though I've owned it for some time. I thought I'd been ripped off. Well, one time for the heck of it I greased it up, popped it in and went to sleep, just to see what would happen.

Now I have wanked with it and the results have been very pleasurable clenching orgasms, but not the toes to eyebrows stuff. Otherwise it just sits there. Well, I woke in the middle of the night with a massive tremour. My waking stopped the event. I replicated it on another weekend while asleep, waking with a lightning strike to the balls. It felt like my penis had been plugged into a 110 extension cord.

So, while it's not an ideal result, I know it can happen I just need the time to tackle it.

I've not had the time to tackle the Aneros properly even though I've owned it for some time. I thought I'd been ripped off. Well, one time for the heck of it I greased it up, popped it in and went to sleep, just to see what would happen.

Now I have wanked with it and the results have been very pleasurable clenching orgasms, but not the toes to eyebrows stuff. Otherwise it just sits there. Well, I woke in the middle of the night with a massive tremour. My waking stopped the event. I replicated it on another weekend while asleep, waking with a lightning strike to the balls. It felt like my penis had been plugged into a 110 extension cord.

So, while it's not an ideal result, I know it can happen I just need the time to tackle it.

you are right it takes time to learn your bodies reaction to the prosses don't give up you are on the right trial . sleeping with it lead me to learn alot of things and I believe conditioned my prostate to the stimulation .

search for my other posts. My ways are different. I always have a hand on my penis. I always start by stroking myself and getting very excited. Then my body hungers for the aneros insertion. Sometimes I press the abj tab gently against my p spot. It starts to involuntarily move the aneros in/out. Once I am going I stop stroking my penis and continue contracting in/out. This works well for me although it is against the hands free philosophy of the other users. I am usually in extasy within 10 minutes. I have had more than 10 orgasms in a session. The internal involutary anal orgasms are strong and can last for 10 minutes. I get tired, rest and start again by stroking my unit, get it hard and then stop stroking and just move the aneros!

Sometimes it is very nice to use a syringe with lubricant, insert a soft smal jelly butt plug. Stoke myself without ejaculation, remove the plug and then insert the aneros! I'm off to the moon. I lay on my back and I broke off my handle helps with movement.