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Open-Face Chinese poker has become very popular over the past 1-2 years or so. Barry Greenstein is relatively new to the game and recently played it online using a popular App for iPhone/iPad.
"I was told then by some people that many were playing Open-Face Chinese on an app that's available for iPhones and the iPad. So when I got home I downloaded the app, and I started playing just for fun agai[...] Read more » Barry Greenstein's Warning: "Don't get cheated on the Open-Face Chinese app"

If one of us would tell this RIGGED story we would be blasted of this forum.I mean this is the type of stuff the "rigged people" talk about all the time.I mean he talks about getting f u cked on the river everyu time....classwic rigged story..only difference ...its Barry..

Wow. How can Barry Greenstein have a nephew that knows about programming and this guy, in half an hour, realizes that app's got lots of mistakes which allow people to use it in a non honest way? We're not talking about a programming pro, and he got those mistakes, that app should be full of mistakes for sure!

Posted by remco2504:If one of us would tell this RIGGED story we would be blasted of this forum.I mean this is the type of stuff the "rigged people" talk about all the time.I mean he talks about getting f u cked on the river everyu time....classwic rigged story..only difference ...its Barry..

Actually no. This is a shortened version of the story. If you read Greensein's blog on stars you'll see the full account.

Here's an extract:

"He said he could see all the cards and do whatever he wanted. I asked him if he could give me a demo, and we played a game and he sent me three kings on top, a flush in the middle, and a straight flush in the back. He explained that anyone who was a programmer or who had a friend who was a programmer could cheat me at the game, no problem."

"Using a proxy server, with the current version of the app, you can see all thirteen cards of yours and your opponents when each deal is begun. Most cheaters wouldn't spend the time to change the cards as my nephew did. They would know whether their flushes and full houses were going to come in, which allows them to play efficiently like normal Chinese poker."

Greenstein has at no point said it is rigged or that he has been cheated. He says he suspects he's been cheated and he has then gone on to show how this could be done.

A rigtard claims that it definitely is rigged but offers no evidence or method.

how can this be news, ofcourse yoo and cheat in an application if you a programer.. just like if you are skilled enough in programing¶hacking you can get the software og pokerstars to give you faouverable hands ect. nothing new in the sun in my opionen

Posted by remco2504:If one of us would tell this RIGGED story we would be blasted of this forum.I mean this is the type of stuff the "rigged people" talk about all the time.I mean he talks about getting f u cked on the river everyu time....classwic rigged story..only difference ...its Barry..

Actually no. This is a shortened version of the story. If you read Greensein's blog on stars you'll see the full account.

Here's an extract:

"He said he could see all the cards and do whatever he wanted. I asked him if he could give me a demo, and we played a game and he sent me three kings on top, a flush in the middle, and a straight flush in the back. He explained that anyone who was a programmer or who had a friend who was a programmer could cheat me at the game, no problem."

"Using a proxy server, with the current version of the app, you can see all thirteen cards of yours and your opponents when each deal is begun. Most cheaters wouldn't spend the time to change the cards as my nephew did. They would know whether their flushes and full houses were going to come in, which allows them to play efficiently like normal Chinese poker."

Greenstein has at no point said it is rigged or that he has been cheated. He says he suspects he's been cheated and he has then gone on to show how this could be done.

A rigtard claims that it definitely is rigged but offers no evidence or method.

There's a world of difference.

Well i didnt read the whole story on his blog ...this does make a difference

But the thing that every rigtard claims its definitely rigged is not true.Most of the time they make thread with a question or a suspicion about it beeing rigged.And then they get blasted most of the time for even sucjesting it.

Of course some people come here who have played 50 tourneys in their life and claim for sertain its rigged...those are the real tards in my opinion..

But the thing that every rigtard claims its definitely rigged is not true.Most of the time they make thread with a question or a suspicion about it beeing rigged.And then they get blasted most of the time for even sucjesting it.

Posted by remco2504:If one of us would tell this RIGGED story we would be blasted of this forum.I mean this is the type of stuff the "rigged people" talk about all the time.I mean he talks about getting f u cked on the river everyu time....classwic rigged story..only difference ...its Barry..

Actually no. This is a shortened version of the story. If you read Greensein's blog on stars you'll see the full account.Here's an extract:"He said he could see all the cards and do whatever he wanted. I asked him if he could give me a demo, and we played a game and he sent me three kings on top, a flush in the middle, and a straight flush in the back. He explained that anyone who was a programmer or who had a friend who was a programmer could cheat me at the game, no problem.""Using a proxy server, with the current version of the app, you can see all thirteen cards of yours and your opponents when each deal is begun. Most cheaters wouldn't spend the time to change the cards as my nephew did. They would know whether their flushes and full houses were going to come in, which allows them to play efficiently like normal Chinese poker."Greenstein has at no point said it is rigged or that he has been cheated. He says he suspects he's been cheated and he has then gone on to show how this could be done.A rigtard claims that it definitely is rigged but offers no evidence or method.There's a world of difference.

It’s not just because of being Greenstein talking about it that is relevant, it’s because of his justification. It was good that he talked about this in public, this way he’s preventing the world online poker community from attacks from those who already knew about the weaknesses of the application but preferred to abuse of them while they could instead of telling the owner of the application about its problems.

Wow, this sounds JUST like the stories the rigtards spew. "So I had pocket aces, I limped in to act weak and slow-played the flop and turn, only to have him suckout on the river". Followed by the ever popular "My cousin is a programmer and he said..." or the "My friend is a math teacher and he said...." blah blah blah.

I don't think he got ripped off, especially when he even said in his own words "he didn't hit every time". I'm really shocked and appalled that a pro would openly whine like this, especially over such small stakes compared to what they play for.

do you come on here to vent out your frustration or something? NO ONE LIKES TO BE CHEATED. millionaire or not.

and actually if u go look at barry greensteins twitter he just posted he played the new version and now the data is encrypted so you dont gotta be a programmer to understand how easy it was to cheat before...