Gay conservatives GOProud want to meet Michele Bachmann

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It is clear where Bachmann stands – she considers us as lesser human beings. GOProud are your standard republican GLBTQ people – part Uncle Tom, part victim of cognitive dissonance. Bachmann speaks out against our innate selves in the same way that a grand high wizard of the KKK speaks out against people of colour. The sickening thing is that her bigotry is acceptable and by facilitating that, GOProud just become her brown shirts.

I completely agree about Log party style GOP gay lobbying… it’s the old Groucho Marx line again about “I wouldn’t join any club that would have me as a member”. How these guys don’t implode under their own cognative dissonance escapes me. It’s a complete exercise in futility. Vote with your feet, if the party you’re in doesn’t represent your interests find one that does. That’s how democracy is supposed to work.
The other line I’m reminded of is Leonard Cohen: “They sentanced me to 20 years of boredom; for trying to change the system from within”.

With respect Flapjack the Democrats don’t represent their views either. They could join the Libertarian Party but if they want a say in who controls government and the legislature then they have to join a party that seriously disagrees with some of their views. Besides if gay rights are going to be permanent, someone on the inside needs to stop the Republicans repealing them.

I wish I shared your optimism, but to be honest they’re far more likely to be steamrolled or swept under the carpet than have any real clout with the GOP.
The Democrats have their flaws but at least they’re prepared to push some equality measures through. For the Republicans gay rights are a non-starter, as they have to square it with their voter-base of evangelist zealots.

People who truely believe in the 2nd amendment, that health care reform was a massive over-reach by the federal government, that the budget for the federal government needs to be slashed, etc. aren’t going to carry weight within the Democratic Party either. I would not regard myself as optimistic, I just don’t think a one-party solution will work. I suspect that it will be the much more gay-friendly views of the generation of would-be Republican voters now coming of voting age, rather than gay Republicans, that inhibits the actions of the Republican Party. But on the other hand I wouldn’t put all my eggs in one basket.

Juan Williams wrote:”Whenever the press attacks her, Minnesota congresswoman gets a flood of support and money. She becomes ‘Every Woman,’ a misunderstood Tea Party mother of five facing down an elitist, arrogant, Obama-leaning press corps.”
“The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.”
7/13/11 Magellan released a poll: Bachmann had 29 percent of likely Republican caucus-goers. Romney received 16 percent of the Iowa vote.
7/17/11 Mason Dixon national poll: Bachmann 32 percent to Romney 29 percent, and all the other candidates in single digits.

It is nearly always possible to have dialogue with others. I have seen for myself how people’s views can be changed. I would rather that than retreating to my safety area and allowing ignorance to flourish.

Notice the utter hypocrisy of the ultra conservatives: it’s always “less government involvement, smaller government” until they find an issue they want to push, and then it’s all sorts of new federal law that are required, new federal involvement in state jurisdiction.. in fact, MUCH larger federal government involved in matters that are completely outside the fed’s purview.

Michele Bachmann has discovered that it is politically and financially lucrative to denigrate, villify, discriminate and dehumanise gay people, she’s made a career out of it, a campaign of hate.

GOProud’s Chris Barron recently married his partner in Washington, DC yet….marriage equality isn’t part of its agenda. Gay republicans which include Civil Libertarians actually believe they can change their party from within. Yet, when they’re asked which candidates will introduce legislation in regard to equality issues for LGBT people, they can’t name one. Marriage equality isn’t high on their list of things to do, it has more to do with their portfolios, first and foremost.