I've been watching some music video things, just for giggles. There's a Korean pop one that kind of lifts my spirits at the end of a long day. I think it's called M Pop or something.

Fuse is good, and the Cool Channel (ack! well, I didn't pick the name) is light pop stuff, but it's okay once in a while. I can't wait until I get a new place and I can order all the overseas channels. Boy, is that going to be great!

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He will come again with glory to judge the living and the dead. His kingdom will have no end.

"The unholy doubt, not because they are ostensibly more rational, but because they are unholy. The holier man is always the more rational, for in the clear mirror of his heart he sees the truth." -- St. Nicholai of Ohrid

I liked Shane, but I don't think Rick had any other choice. It was this or looking over his back for the rest of his life.

I suspected it when they found those two zombie guards at the school board with no bites, but last night confirmed that they are keeping with the comics in that dying for any reason (except traumatic head injury) results in a walker. Walker bites don't transmit zombification per se; they are simply 100% fatal.

I liked Shane, but I don't think Rick had any other choice. It was this or looking over his back for the rest of his life.

I suspected it when they found those two zombie guards at the school board with no bites, but last night confirmed that they are keeping with the comics in that dying for any reason (except traumatic head injury) results in a walker. Walker bites don't transmit zombification per se; they are simply 100% fatal.

Im glad they're going a different direction than the comics (killing the girl, and Dale, adding chars. etc) it really makes the series stadn on its own and not have to constantly be held in light of the comics (like the LOTR movies constantly were)

PP

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"I confidently affirm that whoever calls himself Universal Bishop is the precursor of Antichrist"Gregory the Great

"Never, never, never let anyone tell you that, in order to be Orthodox, you must also be eastern." St. John Maximovitch, The Wonderworker

I liked Shane, but I don't think Rick had any other choice. It was this or looking over his back for the rest of his life.

I suspected it when they found those two zombie guards at the school board with no bites, but last night confirmed that they are keeping with the comics in that dying for any reason (except traumatic head injury) results in a walker. Walker bites don't transmit zombification per se; they are simply 100% fatal.

A few of us have been discussing the medical aspects of zombiism in the show. We were discussing the absence of bites on Randall (death by broken neck) followed by Shane's zombification this morning. The discussion ended with - holy feces, batman, I need to be to work in 15 minutes!!!!! I still wonder what causes it in the show. I wonder if the nature of the disease will ever be discussed?

I liked Shane, but I don't think Rick had any other choice. It was this or looking over his back for the rest of his life.

I suspected it when they found those two zombie guards at the school board with no bites, but last night confirmed that they are keeping with the comics in that dying for any reason (except traumatic head injury) results in a walker. Walker bites don't transmit zombification per se; they are simply 100% fatal.

A few of us have been discussing the medical aspects of zombiism in the show. We were discussing the absence of bites on Randall (death by broken neck) followed by Shane's zombification this morning. The discussion ended with - holy feces, batman, I need to be to work in 15 minutes!!!!! I still wonder what causes it in the show. I wonder if the nature of the disease will ever be discussed?

I liked Shane, but I don't think Rick had any other choice. It was this or looking over his back for the rest of his life.

I suspected it when they found those two zombie guards at the school board with no bites, but last night confirmed that they are keeping with the comics in that dying for any reason (except traumatic head injury) results in a walker. Walker bites don't transmit zombification per se; they are simply 100% fatal.

A few of us have been discussing the medical aspects of zombiism in the show. We were discussing the absence of bites on Randall (death by broken neck) followed by Shane's zombification this morning. The discussion ended with - holy feces, batman, I need to be to work in 15 minutes!!!!! I still wonder what causes it in the show. I wonder if the nature of the disease will ever be discussed?

The episodes at the CDC explained that it is a virus.

But it didn't really explain how it was transmitted other than the obvious biting. The unbitten security guards add that it might be transmitted through just a scratch. With Shane there is the possibility that there was still infected fluids on the knife (which would indicate that the virus has a relatively long life outside of the host). The problem is with Randall. He died of a broken neck. It did not appear to Daryl and the Asian kid that he had been gnawed upon or had had any contact with lamebrains of any kind. Unless Shane somehow purposefully infected him after killing him we have no idea how he was turned.

I liked Shane, but I don't think Rick had any other choice. It was this or looking over his back for the rest of his life.

I suspected it when they found those two zombie guards at the school board with no bites, but last night confirmed that they are keeping with the comics in that dying for any reason (except traumatic head injury) results in a walker. Walker bites don't transmit zombification per se; they are simply 100% fatal.

A few of us have been discussing the medical aspects of zombiism in the show. We were discussing the absence of bites on Randall (death by broken neck) followed by Shane's zombification this morning. The discussion ended with - holy feces, batman, I need to be to work in 15 minutes!!!!! I still wonder what causes it in the show. I wonder if the nature of the disease will ever be discussed?

The episodes at the CDC explained that it is a virus.

But it didn't really explain how it was transmitted other than the obvious biting. The unbitten security guards add that it might be transmitted through just a scratch. With Shane there is the possibility that there was still infected fluids on the knife (which would indicate that the virus has a relatively long life outside of the host). The problem is with Randall. He died of a broken neck. It did not appear to Daryl and the Asian kid that he had been gnawed upon or had had any contact with lamebrains of any kind. Unless Shane somehow purposefully infected him after killing him we have no idea how he was turned.

It is not transmitted by biting. Everyone is already infected. The bites are merely fatal. The virus is no more transmitted by biting than by stabbing.

I liked Shane, but I don't think Rick had any other choice. It was this or looking over his back for the rest of his life.

I suspected it when they found those two zombie guards at the school board with no bites, but last night confirmed that they are keeping with the comics in that dying for any reason (except traumatic head injury) results in a walker. Walker bites don't transmit zombification per se; they are simply 100% fatal.

A few of us have been discussing the medical aspects of zombiism in the show. We were discussing the absence of bites on Randall (death by broken neck) followed by Shane's zombification this morning. The discussion ended with - holy feces, batman, I need to be to work in 15 minutes!!!!! I still wonder what causes it in the show. I wonder if the nature of the disease will ever be discussed?

The episodes at the CDC explained that it is a virus.

But it didn't really explain how it was transmitted other than the obvious biting. The unbitten security guards add that it might be transmitted through just a scratch. With Shane there is the possibility that there was still infected fluids on the knife (which would indicate that the virus has a relatively long life outside of the host). The problem is with Randall. He died of a broken neck. It did not appear to Daryl and the Asian kid that he had been gnawed upon or had had any contact with lamebrains of any kind. Unless Shane somehow purposefully infected him after killing him we have no idea how he was turned.

It is not transmitted by biting. Everyone is already infected. The bites are merely fatal. The virus is no more transmitted by biting than by stabbing.

Which episode was that explained?

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"The unholy doubt, not because they are ostensibly more rational, but because they are unholy. The holier man is always the more rational, for in the clear mirror of his heart he sees the truth." -- St. Nicholai of Ohrid

I liked Shane, but I don't think Rick had any other choice. It was this or looking over his back for the rest of his life.

I suspected it when they found those two zombie guards at the school board with no bites, but last night confirmed that they are keeping with the comics in that dying for any reason (except traumatic head injury) results in a walker. Walker bites don't transmit zombification per se; they are simply 100% fatal.

A few of us have been discussing the medical aspects of zombiism in the show. We were discussing the absence of bites on Randall (death by broken neck) followed by Shane's zombification this morning. The discussion ended with - holy feces, batman, I need to be to work in 15 minutes!!!!! I still wonder what causes it in the show. I wonder if the nature of the disease will ever be discussed?

The episodes at the CDC explained that it is a virus.

But it didn't really explain how it was transmitted other than the obvious biting. The unbitten security guards add that it might be transmitted through just a scratch. With Shane there is the possibility that there was still infected fluids on the knife (which would indicate that the virus has a relatively long life outside of the host). The problem is with Randall. He died of a broken neck. It did not appear to Daryl and the Asian kid that he had been gnawed upon or had had any contact with lamebrains of any kind. Unless Shane somehow purposefully infected him after killing him we have no idea how he was turned.

It is not transmitted by biting. Everyone is already infected. The bites are merely fatal. The virus is no more transmitted by biting than by stabbing.

So basically everyone is infected, it's just that the body has to die before the symptoms ensue? Theoretically, if someone was bitten by a zombie, they could have the area patched up and cleaned, and so longs as they lived they would be otherwise unaffected?

So basically everyone is infected, it's just that the body has to die before the symptoms ensue? Theoretically, if someone was bitten by a zombie, they could have the area patched up and cleaned, and so longs as they lived they would be otherwise unaffected?

We haven't see a case of that yet, but it is possible. I imagine that zombie bites are 100% fatal, however.

I liked Shane, but I don't think Rick had any other choice. It was this or looking over his back for the rest of his life.

I suspected it when they found those two zombie guards at the school board with no bites, but last night confirmed that they are keeping with the comics in that dying for any reason (except traumatic head injury) results in a walker. Walker bites don't transmit zombification per se; they are simply 100% fatal.

A few of us have been discussing the medical aspects of zombiism in the show. We were discussing the absence of bites on Randall (death by broken neck) followed by Shane's zombification this morning. The discussion ended with - holy feces, batman, I need to be to work in 15 minutes!!!!! I still wonder what causes it in the show. I wonder if the nature of the disease will ever be discussed?

The episodes at the CDC explained that it is a virus.

But it didn't really explain how it was transmitted other than the obvious biting. The unbitten security guards add that it might be transmitted through just a scratch. With Shane there is the possibility that there was still infected fluids on the knife (which would indicate that the virus has a relatively long life outside of the host). The problem is with Randall. He died of a broken neck. It did not appear to Daryl and the Asian kid that he had been gnawed upon or had had any contact with lamebrains of any kind. Unless Shane somehow purposefully infected him after killing him we have no idea how he was turned.

It is not transmitted by biting. Everyone is already infected. The bites are merely fatal. The virus is no more transmitted by biting than by stabbing.

Which episode was that explained?

It hasn't been (AFAIR). But given the speed with which it apparently infected the entire world, including areas that should have basic infection control/ability to use force to drive off walkers, it's been obvious for a while that direct physical transmission (blood/infected bite) could not be the only vector. I've been assuming for awhile that everybody was infected (via air or water) and the survivors are just those who happen to have some level of natural resistance.

For it were better to suffer everything, rather than divide the Church of God. Even martyrdom for the sake of preventing division would not be less glorious than for refusing to worship idols. - St. Dionysius the Great

In most other show's that Asian kid would have been long dead. Ensign expendable.

How would you like to be the actor that played Shane? The series takes off like a rocket, youre one of the leading men, and they off you.

He needs a new Agent.

"Marty, this is Sam. He look, you cant kill off my guy. His numbers are through the roof with 14 to 30 year old females. And he trends up with men in all age groups."

" I know the script is already written. Un f..ing write it !!"

"Well what about that scrawny Asian kid? Do you really mean to tell me you're keeping him but getting rid of my guy?? You cant be serious?"

" He played Hamlet you know.. In London"

There is something to be said about killing off a character when they are still liked. It makes it hit the audience harder. If about half the characters on that show died I would probably yawn, or else cheer in the case of the brat kid. Dale and Shane were two that I liked and their deaths were largely unexpected...well, I expected Dale, but that's PP's fault!

And I like the Asian kid. He's one of the one's I can relate to the most since he seems to be one of the least retarded!

I liked Shane, but I don't think Rick had any other choice. It was this or looking over his back for the rest of his life.

I suspected it when they found those two zombie guards at the school board with no bites, but last night confirmed that they are keeping with the comics in that dying for any reason (except traumatic head injury) results in a walker. Walker bites don't transmit zombification per se; they are simply 100% fatal.

A few of us have been discussing the medical aspects of zombiism in the show. We were discussing the absence of bites on Randall (death by broken neck) followed by Shane's zombification this morning. The discussion ended with - holy feces, batman, I need to be to work in 15 minutes!!!!! I still wonder what causes it in the show. I wonder if the nature of the disease will ever be discussed?

The episodes at the CDC explained that it is a virus.

But it didn't really explain how it was transmitted other than the obvious biting. The unbitten security guards add that it might be transmitted through just a scratch. With Shane there is the possibility that there was still infected fluids on the knife (which would indicate that the virus has a relatively long life outside of the host). The problem is with Randall. He died of a broken neck. It did not appear to Daryl and the Asian kid that he had been gnawed upon or had had any contact with lamebrains of any kind. Unless Shane somehow purposefully infected him after killing him we have no idea how he was turned.

It is not transmitted by biting. Everyone is already infected. The bites are merely fatal. The virus is no more transmitted by biting than by stabbing.

Which episode was that explained?

It hasn't been (AFAIR). But given the speed with which it apparently infected the entire world, including areas that should have basic infection control/ability to use force to drive off walkers, it's been obvious for a while that direct physical transmission (blood/infected bite) could not be the only vector. I've been assuming for awhile that everybody was infected (via air or water) and the survivors are just those who happen to have some level of natural resistance.

In Shaun of the Dead, the Military shows up and mows them down. I don't know why a few good chain guns didnt do the same this time.

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Your idea has been debunked 1000 times already.. Maybe 1001 will be the charm

I liked Shane, but I don't think Rick had any other choice. It was this or looking over his back for the rest of his life.

I suspected it when they found those two zombie guards at the school board with no bites, but last night confirmed that they are keeping with the comics in that dying for any reason (except traumatic head injury) results in a walker. Walker bites don't transmit zombification per se; they are simply 100% fatal.

A few of us have been discussing the medical aspects of zombiism in the show. We were discussing the absence of bites on Randall (death by broken neck) followed by Shane's zombification this morning. The discussion ended with - holy feces, batman, I need to be to work in 15 minutes!!!!! I still wonder what causes it in the show. I wonder if the nature of the disease will ever be discussed?

The episodes at the CDC explained that it is a virus.

But it didn't really explain how it was transmitted other than the obvious biting. The unbitten security guards add that it might be transmitted through just a scratch. With Shane there is the possibility that there was still infected fluids on the knife (which would indicate that the virus has a relatively long life outside of the host). The problem is with Randall. He died of a broken neck. It did not appear to Daryl and the Asian kid that he had been gnawed upon or had had any contact with lamebrains of any kind. Unless Shane somehow purposefully infected him after killing him we have no idea how he was turned.

It is not transmitted by biting. Everyone is already infected. The bites are merely fatal. The virus is no more transmitted by biting than by stabbing.

Which episode was that explained?

It hasn't been (AFAIR). But given the speed with which it apparently infected the entire world, including areas that should have basic infection control/ability to use force to drive off walkers, it's been obvious for a while that direct physical transmission (blood/infected bite) could not be the only vector. I've been assuming for awhile that everybody was infected (via air or water) and the survivors are just those who happen to have some level of natural resistance.

In Shaun of the Dead, the Military shows up and mows them down. I don't know why a few good chain guns didnt do the same this time.

Wondering the same thing. How did the braindead zombies manage to overrun the military barricades in Atlanta and the CDC place? Much less tanks? Okay they have high amounts of stamina but they are still essentially animated human corpses, one bullet to the head and they're finished.

"The unholy doubt, not because they are ostensibly more rational, but because they are unholy. The holier man is always the more rational, for in the clear mirror of his heart he sees the truth." -- St. Nicholai of Ohrid

I liked Shane, but I don't think Rick had any other choice. It was this or looking over his back for the rest of his life.

I suspected it when they found those two zombie guards at the school board with no bites, but last night confirmed that they are keeping with the comics in that dying for any reason (except traumatic head injury) results in a walker. Walker bites don't transmit zombification per se; they are simply 100% fatal.

A few of us have been discussing the medical aspects of zombiism in the show. We were discussing the absence of bites on Randall (death by broken neck) followed by Shane's zombification this morning. The discussion ended with - holy feces, batman, I need to be to work in 15 minutes!!!!! I still wonder what causes it in the show. I wonder if the nature of the disease will ever be discussed?

The episodes at the CDC explained that it is a virus.

But it didn't really explain how it was transmitted other than the obvious biting. The unbitten security guards add that it might be transmitted through just a scratch. With Shane there is the possibility that there was still infected fluids on the knife (which would indicate that the virus has a relatively long life outside of the host). The problem is with Randall. He died of a broken neck. It did not appear to Daryl and the Asian kid that he had been gnawed upon or had had any contact with lamebrains of any kind. Unless Shane somehow purposefully infected him after killing him we have no idea how he was turned.

It is not transmitted by biting. Everyone is already infected. The bites are merely fatal. The virus is no more transmitted by biting than by stabbing.

Which episode was that explained?

It hasn't been (AFAIR). But given the speed with which it apparently infected the entire world, including areas that should have basic infection control/ability to use force to drive off walkers, it's been obvious for a while that direct physical transmission (blood/infected bite) could not be the only vector. I've been assuming for awhile that everybody was infected (via air or water) and the survivors are just those who happen to have some level of natural resistance.

In Shaun of the Dead, the Military shows up and mows them down. I don't know why a few good chain guns didnt do the same this time.

Wondering the same thing. How did the braindead zombies manage to overrun the military barricades in Atlanta and the CDC place? Much less tanks? Okay they have high amounts of stamina but they are still essentially animated human corpses, one bullet to the head and they're finished.

1- What percentage of military personnel were infected? If a large portion were compromised that would cut down effectiveness considerable. Remember, 20% casualties is often considered 'combat ineffective'.2- Tanks. I am assuming the Abrams MBT in the first season was not taken out of action by the zombies but rather by lack of fuel and expended ammo. The gas turbine engines in those are fuel hogs.3- One bullet to the head is a lot harder than it looks on TV. I can reliably put most shots into the head at a stationary target in unstressed situations at about 10-15' nearly 100% of the time. At 20' it really depends on the pistol. With a rifle I can go a bit further, but I'm no William Tell. Make the targets moving and stress me out and the percentages will drop astronomically. Take a look at police hit ratios. These are usually considered trained professionals. I don't have the numbers on hand but they are pretty abysmal. And I am talking about hitting the target in general, not a precise shot to the head.

The main advantage the military would have would be artillery strikes against conglomerations of them. Military fire bases with large stockpiles of ammunition would probably be the way to go. The problem is, ammo is always finite and arty is loud...

Even assuming finite ammo, how about setting up walls, electric fences, reinforced perimeters...? Surely there's room for innovation, there aren't thousands of engineers working in the military for no reason. The main advantage of the military probably wouldn't be artillery strikes but the ability to strategically outmaneuver an enemy that's completely incapacitated mentally. I was pretty surprised to see them using rocks to break down the department store windows in Season 1.

I liked Shane, but I don't think Rick had any other choice. It was this or looking over his back for the rest of his life.

I suspected it when they found those two zombie guards at the school board with no bites, but last night confirmed that they are keeping with the comics in that dying for any reason (except traumatic head injury) results in a walker. Walker bites don't transmit zombification per se; they are simply 100% fatal.

A few of us have been discussing the medical aspects of zombiism in the show. We were discussing the absence of bites on Randall (death by broken neck) followed by Shane's zombification this morning. The discussion ended with - holy feces, batman, I need to be to work in 15 minutes!!!!! I still wonder what causes it in the show. I wonder if the nature of the disease will ever be discussed?

The episodes at the CDC explained that it is a virus.

But it didn't really explain how it was transmitted other than the obvious biting. The unbitten security guards add that it might be transmitted through just a scratch. With Shane there is the possibility that there was still infected fluids on the knife (which would indicate that the virus has a relatively long life outside of the host). The problem is with Randall. He died of a broken neck. It did not appear to Daryl and the Asian kid that he had been gnawed upon or had had any contact with lamebrains of any kind. Unless Shane somehow purposefully infected him after killing him we have no idea how he was turned.

It is not transmitted by biting. Everyone is already infected. The bites are merely fatal. The virus is no more transmitted by biting than by stabbing.

Which episode was that explained?

It hasn't been (AFAIR). But given the speed with which it apparently infected the entire world, including areas that should have basic infection control/ability to use force to drive off walkers, it's been obvious for a while that direct physical transmission (blood/infected bite) could not be the only vector. I've been assuming for awhile that everybody was infected (via air or water) and the survivors are just those who happen to have some level of natural resistance.

In Shaun of the Dead, the Military shows up and mows them down. I don't know why a few good chain guns didnt do the same this time.

Wondering the same thing. How did the braindead zombies manage to overrun the military barricades in Atlanta and the CDC place? Much less tanks? Okay they have high amounts of stamina but they are still essentially animated human corpses, one bullet to the head and they're finished.

Hence my assumption that actually getting bitten by a zombie was not the only vector. If half the military base spontaneously manifested the disease, then it would be relatively easy for them to get to and bite most of the remaining half, who wouldn't really be able to use area-effect weapons while still thinking some non-diseased were present--as opposed to the ability of a hardened military structure to lock down and simply mow down incoming waves before they got close enough to infect anyone.

For it were better to suffer everything, rather than divide the Church of God. Even martyrdom for the sake of preventing division would not be less glorious than for refusing to worship idols. - St. Dionysius the Great

Hence my assumption that actually getting bitten by a zombie was not the only vector. If half the military base spontaneously manifested the disease, then it would be relatively easy for them to get to and bite most of the remaining half, who wouldn't really be able to use area-effect weapons while still thinking some non-diseased were present--as opposed to the ability of a hardened military structure to lock down and simply mow down incoming waves before they got close enough to infect anyone.

I liked Shane, but I don't think Rick had any other choice. It was this or looking over his back for the rest of his life.

I suspected it when they found those two zombie guards at the school board with no bites, but last night confirmed that they are keeping with the comics in that dying for any reason (except traumatic head injury) results in a walker. Walker bites don't transmit zombification per se; they are simply 100% fatal.

A few of us have been discussing the medical aspects of zombiism in the show. We were discussing the absence of bites on Randall (death by broken neck) followed by Shane's zombification this morning. The discussion ended with - holy feces, batman, I need to be to work in 15 minutes!!!!! I still wonder what causes it in the show. I wonder if the nature of the disease will ever be discussed?

The episodes at the CDC explained that it is a virus.

But it didn't really explain how it was transmitted other than the obvious biting. The unbitten security guards add that it might be transmitted through just a scratch. With Shane there is the possibility that there was still infected fluids on the knife (which would indicate that the virus has a relatively long life outside of the host). The problem is with Randall. He died of a broken neck. It did not appear to Daryl and the Asian kid that he had been gnawed upon or had had any contact with lamebrains of any kind. Unless Shane somehow purposefully infected him after killing him we have no idea how he was turned.

It is not transmitted by biting. Everyone is already infected. The bites are merely fatal. The virus is no more transmitted by biting than by stabbing.

Which episode was that explained?

It hasn't been (AFAIR). But given the speed with which it apparently infected the entire world, including areas that should have basic infection control/ability to use force to drive off walkers, it's been obvious for a while that direct physical transmission (blood/infected bite) could not be the only vector. I've been assuming for awhile that everybody was infected (via air or water) and the survivors are just those who happen to have some level of natural resistance.

In Shaun of the Dead, the Military shows up and mows them down. I don't know why a few good chain guns didnt do the same this time.

Wondering the same thing. How did the braindead zombies manage to overrun the military barricades in Atlanta and the CDC place? Much less tanks? Okay they have high amounts of stamina but they are still essentially animated human corpses, one bullet to the head and they're finished.

1- What percentage of military personnel were infected? If a large portion were compromised that would cut down effectiveness considerable. Remember, 20% casualties is often considered 'combat ineffective'.2- Tanks. I am assuming the Abrams MBT in the first season was not taken out of action by the zombies but rather by lack of fuel and expended ammo. The gas turbine engines in those are fuel hogs.3- One bullet to the head is a lot harder than it looks on TV. I can reliably put most shots into the head at a stationary target in unstressed situations at about 10-15' nearly 100% of the time. At 20' it really depends on the pistol. With a rifle I can go a bit further, but I'm no William Tell. Make the targets moving and stress me out and the percentages will drop astronomically. Take a look at police hit ratios. These are usually considered trained professionals. I don't have the numbers on hand but they are pretty abysmal. And I am talking about hitting the target in general, not a precise shot to the head.

The main advantage the military would have would be artillery strikes against conglomerations of them. Military fire bases with large stockpiles of ammunition would probably be the way to go. The problem is, ammo is always finite and arty is loud...