guys....i have no idea how anybody in his right mind like or not the PUMAS or RONCERO could even begin to question this players rugby credentials on the pitch....in France or for Argentina he starts EVERY GAME juggernauter....ask Ayersa....really....your personal dislike is distorting an amazing performer throughout the years even in his twilight years....and not just his scrummaging but his damn tackling....just the sheer volume of tackles this first rower gets per game should already be one indication of how unusual and talented this beast of a player is....Cheers everyone....great site