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Re: Cross clinchers- what is the latest thoughts?

I'm a fan of the WTB cross boss. Good all around tread, thats fast on pavement to get too and from. A little more volume to make up for the fact that they are not tubulars too. PDX front, MXP rear has always worked well for me, But I find it too aggressive for what I need most the time. And they end up wearing too fast. I have a 20 mile round trip to and from practice, and often just leave them on for road/mixed terrain rides. I also use the Challenge gravel grinders (38mm) as practice for chicane use. Plus I dont hate them for hill repeats on the road. Helps you get used to how useless they are for breaking in a straight line I suppose.

The vittoria Terreno Dry and Mix look like they could do it all though. If I try a UCI legal tubeless setup this year, it will be them.

Re: Cross clinchers- what is the latest thoughts?

Sort of interested in this topic as well. I'm not restricted to UCI regulations and have been planning on running tires in the 35mm range for this season.

My research has landed me on the WTB CrossBoss 35 which I plan on running for most of the early-to-mid season when courses tend to be dry, or at worst, wet-grass. For late season when things get sloppy, I'll probably switch over to Kenda Kommando X. Both will be run tubeless.

Re: Cross clinchers- what is the latest thoughts?

My only concern with the PDX's, while they do hold up better than the MXP's, is the squirmyness on road, if you want to use them for anything other than cross. Also, they are some of the slowest tires ever in thick grass (most cross practice)

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Re: Cross clinchers- what is the latest thoughts?

I did some cross last year on the Schwalbe X-One tubeless. They were decent but from my experience, a 33 tubeless tire doesn't have the volume to compete with a 33 tubular. I haven't raced on them but I have the Compass Steilacoom's now. I've used them for some single track and some heavy gravel and been very impressed with them. The additional volume and handling characteristics of the tires is much more confidence inspiring than the Schwalbe's.

Re: Cross clinchers- what is the latest thoughts?

I am curious about the IRCs. Heard a lot of great things about the "sand" as a file tread, but what about their mud and all-around tires? Wondering how they roll because I'd like to put my wife on tubeless. She likes the security of an aggressive tread but I know she doesn't have a ton of power to spare.

Re: Cross clinchers- what is the latest thoughts?

What're you using now?

I saw the Riddler 37 in person on Sunday. When my 40c rambler's die I'll likely look to these. I like my 40C Nanos just not on the road. Something of a do everything... some gravel, some CX, some trails...

Re: Cross clinchers- what is the latest thoughts?

Used those at a HoH one year, it was a down right Cadillac Brougham like ride.

It it were me, I'd get a Rambler/Riddler esque tire that's capable of some Cross and the NYC Velo adventure rides as well. Then again, I'm not racing CX, save a local race or two when handups matter more than results, so YMMV.

I've got some Nano's you could try... I'm off the bike for a bit and wouldn't need them until a CX race came up... so not for a good long while.

Re: Cross clinchers- what is the latest thoughts?

Got in my first hard session on Terreno Wet 40s last night. One tire to rule them all for me. Obviously if you need UCI compliance, the 33 or the 31 on a wider rim is where you need to be. But I really liked the grip on all surfaces so far. The only thing we didn't encounter was wet :)

I started at 22 psi set up tubeless on Belgium Plus rims. Too hard. Got down to about 17 and started to feel some squirm. I think 19-20 will be my window. FYI, they measured at 40.8 mm.

Re: Cross clinchers- what is the latest thoughts?

Sorry Thomas. I disagree.

Nick, I generally prefer square knobs to arrow patterns. I prefer grip in corners to perceived lower rolling resistance. I really like what Vittoria is doing with siping on a lot of their newer off road treads.

I have a set of the Terreno Dry in 33 tubular that I'll probably mount up for early season. But I have a feeling they will come off quick in favor of Wet 33s.