Sydguy wrote:they are adamant $3,999 is the price.If anyone knows where to get a good deal on a 2013 Giant TCR Adv0 in NSW do tell! JM

They are too new to market to be able to get a deal. I suspect the only way you'd get the price lower is if you had a really good relationship with the dealer concerned and they were willing to cut their margin because of that (5-10% discount?). Giant might do a 'factory backed sale' sometime after Christmas but maybe not until March. By then you've already lost 3-6 riding months....

Factory backed sale is usually for the month of February all current models 20% off.

Absolutely torn between the 12 and 13 model - found a 12 in my size, can I live with the colour for a $821 discount?

The other side of the coin is I won't be 100%% happy if I pay full retail, I think this crazy sales environment since GFC has conditioned me to getting a great deal, when a TCR with Di2 for $4k is a great deal.

Sydguy wrote: found a 12 in my size, can I live with the colour for a $821 discount?

Am I the only one here who thinks that the 2012 TCRs look good? I think they look much better in the flesh, the pictures on the giant website look horrible, is there a marketing technique where you make something look bad on the net so the buyer is surprised when they see it in the flesh?

Sydguy wrote: found a 12 in my size, can I live with the colour for a $821 discount?

Am I the only one here who thinks that the 2012 TCRs look good? I think they look much better in the flesh, the pictures on the giant website look horrible, is there a marketing technique where you make something look bad on the net so the buyer is surprised when they see it in the flesh?

The shop built it but I did not have the time for a full fit, which would of been free. They give 6 months free adjustments and initial service free.

So I can drop in and get things adjusted. All you need is a torque wrench and you can do it on a mag trainer if you know what to look for.

They would put any bar tape on free, I was going to get black. However because the seat is white/blue they would not swap it out. It just would not suit any other bike with that same seat. They used to end up with Frankenstein bikes that no one purchased.

So I will stick with white bars and white seat for now, I think it looks fine. Eventually I will swap them for black, I'll be watching seats on eBay.

There have been a couple of reports elsewhere of riders experiencing the Di2 cable/s inside the frame rattling/slapping on bumps and also the shift levers rattling.Don't seem widespread issues (so far).

I really like the upgrade from aluminium to carbon frame. Lighter, slightly smoother, feels more responsive to handling. The internal cable routing is very pleasant to the eyes. So far I haven't had any rattling problems some posters have mentioned before. Integrated speed/cadence sensor in the seatstay is a great idea.

Ultegra Di2 is great. That is when everything works as intended. The shifts are crisp, fast and smooth. Even on full load, standing on hills, the di2 shifts wonderfully. The auto trimming feature means only one press of the gear lever is needed. No more adjusting the front derailleur. Allows me to focus more on the pedalling part if bike riding.Dont forget to regularly charge the battery, regardless of the battery level indicator. Mine went from 50% to flat on a ride. Lucky it was as the end of the ride. I was stuck in whatever gear it was at the front. I could still shift the rear derailleur.During the BUPA AtB, I hit a pothole really hard on a descent and the rear derailleur went into crash protection mode and would not shift. So I finished the 60 remaining km on a dualie (front gears only). I am going to take the bike to the shop this week and see what the problem is. I tried resetting the system as described in the manual. The gears shift in all the cogs during the self test but still does not respond to presses on the shifter.

i had a shifting problem when mine was new, it was the cables not pushed into the shifters all the way, just peel back the hood and check they are pushed home all the way and not being pulled out by the bar tape. i pushed them back in hard and then used some electrical tape to hold them in and then put the bar tape back over the top..

i charge my battery every 600-700km which is around once a month at the moment

Not the Advanced but the Defy Advanced 2013 here... I get a knocking type sound, I am riding a M and don't have massive legs with the seat post sittign at ~130. I have worked out that the knocking is the seat post knocking around a little at the bottom inside the bike. I will trim it down with a carbon saw at some point.

Sydguy wrote:Anyone getting any 'rattling' noise out of their TCR 0? I bounce the bike with 120 psi and I get nothing.

Hit a bump at speed, say 40 km/h, something does rattle. In case it is cable slap I have put little covers on the cables.

Also stopped twice on commute to see if I could detect anything loose - nothing. The battery is on firmly, locked in.

Could it just be the chain/rear mec? Maybe it will be gone tomorrow and it was cable...

If anyone has experienced this let me know. I'd rather not have something come flying off at speed!

Set two PR's on the way to work, that was taking it easy with the new rig. It is heavier than the non Di2 Ultegra TCR but damn it feels fast!

You can fly up and down gears at full pelt with no issues.

JM

I get the same rattle sometimes and I think its a combination of the rear deraileur and the chain due to not having a cable with tension to hold it tight. Never caused any ghost shifts or any problems though.

dude18 wrote:Updates after a little more than one month with the bike:

I really like the upgrade from aluminium to carbon frame. Lighter, slightly smoother, feels more responsive to handling. The internal cable routing is very pleasant to the eyes. So far I haven't had any rattling problems some posters have mentioned before. Integrated speed/cadence sensor in the seatstay is a great idea.

Ultegra Di2 is great. That is when everything works as intended. The shifts are crisp, fast and smooth. Even on full load, standing on hills, the di2 shifts wonderfully. The auto trimming feature means only one press of the gear lever is needed. No more adjusting the front derailleur. Allows me to focus more on the pedalling part if bike riding.Dont forget to regularly charge the battery, regardless of the battery level indicator. Mine went from 50% to flat on a ride. Lucky it was as the end of the ride. I was stuck in whatever gear it was at the front. I could still shift the rear derailleur.During the BUPA AtB, I hit a pothole really hard on a descent and the rear derailleur went into crash protection mode and would not shift. So I finished the 60 remaining km on a dualie (front gears only). I am going to take the bike to the shop this week and see what the problem is. I tried resetting the system as described in the manual. The gears shift in all the cogs during the self test but still does not respond to presses on the shifter.

I think a light stays on on the junction box when it goes to crash protection. I've dropped my bike on the derailleur side and bent the hanger and it still didnt go into crash mode.

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