http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/36767/the-sad-allegations-false-417553/
Irelands Owen2012-05-24http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/36767/the-sad-allegations-false-417553/The sad thing is that most of the allegations are false. Priests are no more likely to abuse children than any man.
]]><p>The sad thing is that most of the allegations are false. Priests are no more likely to abuse children than any man.</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38688/ok-its-someone-asked-question-child-abuse-deliberate-417557/
Gearoid Ryan2012-05-24http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38688/ok-its-someone-asked-question-child-abuse-deliberate-417557/ok, its about time someone asked this question: “is child abuse a deliberate policy of the catholic church?”
]]><p>ok, its about time someone asked this question: “is child abuse a deliberate policy of the catholic church?”</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38687/too-late-417554/
Chrissy Beanz2012-05-24http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38687/too-late-417554/Too little, too late. AND, how can we be sure we are hearing the truth?
]]><p>Too little, too late. AND, how can we be sure we are hearing the truth?</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/36884/rottenjust-rotten-its-decline-shame-abuse-never-abolished-417565/
somethingodd2012-05-24http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/36884/rottenjust-rotten-its-decline-shame-abuse-never-abolished-417565/rotten…just rotten! only good is that its in decline, shame abuse will never be abolished
]]><p>rotten…just rotten! only good is that its in decline, shame abuse will never be abolished</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/16/just-i-thought-i-couldnt-shocked-again-monsters-417572/
Fergus O'Neill2012-05-24http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/16/just-i-thought-i-couldnt-shocked-again-monsters-417572/Just when I thought I couldn’t get shocked again by these monsters, this report appears to say:
The archdiocese STILL knows of three men who it describes as “serial abusers” and who haven’t been convicted.
I mean, seriously. Words fail me that they would STILL be extending protection (or “supervision” as they call it) to any ‘person’ like this.
]]><p>Just when I thought I couldn’t get shocked again by these monsters, this report appears to say:<br />
The archdiocese STILL knows of three men who it describes as “serial abusers” and who haven’t been convicted.<br />
I mean, seriously. Words fail me that they would STILL be extending protection (or “supervision” as they call it) to any ‘person’ like this.</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/24909/only-417567/
gingerman2012-05-24http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/24909/only-417567/Only 1 in 14?
]]><p>Only 1 in 14?</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/8297/thats-caught-mean-417604/
Marko Burns2012-05-24http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/8297/thats-caught-mean-417604/That’s 1 in 14 that got caught you mean.
And 1 in 14 that are still alive. What about all the dirty auld priests that died – or the victims that did.

Don’t forget that for pedophiles the priesthood was seen as the route to pursue. It just means now they are elsewhere. It’s not the priesthood itself that is the cause – it is how it provides an attractive avenue for pedophiles to live their lives.
It just means you will find more now in other areas with a weak spot.

]]><p>That’s 1 in 14 that got caught you mean.<br />
And 1 in 14 that are still alive. What about all the dirty auld priests that died – or the victims that did. </p>
<p>Don’t forget that for pedophiles the priesthood was seen as the route to pursue. It just means now they are elsewhere. It’s not the priesthood itself that is the cause – it is how it provides an attractive avenue for pedophiles to live their lives.<br />
It just means you will find more now in other areas with a weak spot.</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38118/a-close-relation-shot-himself-father-brendan-fortune-417851/
Stephen Boland2012-05-24http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38118/a-close-relation-shot-himself-father-brendan-fortune-417851/A close relation to me, shot himself because of Father Brendan Fortune. look that bastard up and educate yourself.
]]><p>A close relation to me, shot himself because of Father Brendan Fortune. look that bastard up and educate yourself.</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/23696/the-church-failed-its-people-clergy-needs-torn-417579/
HUGH O'BRIEN2012-05-24http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/23696/the-church-failed-its-people-clergy-needs-torn-417579/The church has failed its people and the good clergy, it needs to be torn down and rebuilt parish by parish, and women should be priests.
]]><p>The church has failed its people and the good clergy, it needs to be torn down and rebuilt parish by parish, and women should be priests.</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/5224/just-dublin-what-country-417578/
Oskar Fritsche2012-05-24http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/5224/just-dublin-what-country-417578/Just Dublin, What about the country?
]]><p>Just Dublin, What about the country?</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38539/the-difference-between-plausible-true-evidence-417571/
Conor Buckley2012-05-24http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38539/the-difference-between-plausible-true-evidence-417571/The difference between “plausible” and “true” is “evidence”. “Since the mid-1980s, insurance companies have offered sexual misconduct coverage as a rider on liability insurance, and their own studies indicate that Catholic churches are not higher risk than other congregations. “
]]><p>The difference between “plausible” and “true” is “evidence”. “Since the mid-1980s, insurance companies have offered sexual misconduct coverage as a rider on liability insurance, and their own studies indicate that Catholic churches are not higher risk than other congregations. “</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/945/priests-typically-sexually-dysfunctional-men-ireland-417973/
Seán Ó Loingsigh2012-05-25http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/945/priests-typically-sexually-dysfunctional-men-ireland-417973/Priests are typically the most sexually dysfunctional men in Ireland. Bunch of irrational deluded virgins. Grow up, grow a pair and stop believing every little thing you’re told. There is no life after death, so STFU and enjoy it without having to compensate your meaningless existence for a cosmic Jewish zombie that never existed with the innocence of little boys.
]]><p>Priests are typically the most sexually dysfunctional men in Ireland. Bunch of irrational deluded virgins. Grow up, grow a pair and stop believing every little thing you’re told. There is no life after death, so STFU and enjoy it without having to compensate your meaningless existence for a cosmic Jewish zombie that never existed with the innocence of little boys.</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/36942/so-fr-417625/
Sean Hickey2012-05-24http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/36942/so-fr-417625/So Fr. Peter Mc Verry is the notable exception? Oh and Fr. Kevin Reynolds whose innocence you would not be aware of but for the fact that this hysteria also crept in to journism where supposedly credible journalists sat around a table as in the Fr. Kevin Reynolds case saying things like ‘the girl even looks like him, he’s guilty’.
It’s is easy to attack the generic but when a name is put forward one is accused of highlighting the exception.
The FACTS are that we will never be sure of the statistics. The FACT remains that many priests were guilty of heinous abuse. The FACT remains that many many more were never guilty of such things.
5000 posts on the journal slating every priest that ever lived may distort the facts but it will never alter them. Pardon the unintentional pun.
]]><p>So Fr. Peter Mc Verry is the notable exception? Oh and Fr. Kevin Reynolds whose innocence you would not be aware of but for the fact that this hysteria also crept in to journism where supposedly credible journalists sat around a table as in the Fr. Kevin Reynolds case saying things like ‘the girl even looks like him, he’s guilty’.<br />
It’s is easy to attack the generic but when a name is put forward one is accused of highlighting the exception.<br />
The FACTS are that we will never be sure of the statistics. The FACT remains that many priests were guilty of heinous abuse. The FACT remains that many many more were never guilty of such things.<br />
5000 posts on the journal slating every priest that ever lived may distort the facts but it will never alter them. Pardon the unintentional pun.</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/7033/get-religious-education-417859/
Adam Magari2012-05-24http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/7033/get-religious-education-417859/Get the religious out of education. Might give kids abetted chance. Quinn has been a total letdown on church-state separation.
]]><p>Get the religious out of education. Might give kids abetted chance. Quinn has been a total letdown on church-state separation.</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/36942/everybody-entitled-own-opinion-417661/
Sean Hickey2012-05-24http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/36942/everybody-entitled-own-opinion-417661/Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. They are not entitled to their own facts.
]]><p>Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. They are not entitled to their own facts.</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38118/the-majority-rc-priests-abuse-fair-seem-share-417845/
Stephen Boland2012-05-24http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38118/the-majority-rc-priests-abuse-fair-seem-share-417845/The majority of RC priests did not abuse, fair enough but, we seem to have our share of the ones who did. Remember also; the Bishops, Cardinals and Popes were priests before they were given the pointed hats so how many of those have slipped nicely through the net of time. Makes you think!
]]><p>The majority of RC priests did not abuse, fair enough but, we seem to have our share of the ones who did. Remember also; the Bishops, Cardinals and Popes were priests before they were given the pointed hats so how many of those have slipped nicely through the net of time. Makes you think!</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/16506/there-may-maybe-less-percentage-quoted-417726/
Tom O'Connor2012-05-24http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/16506/there-may-maybe-less-percentage-quoted-417726/There may be more or maybe less than the percentage quoted. However there is a culture of claim in Ireland that encourages kids to go for what they can get. I’m sure a lot of claims are unfounded and have ruined the lives of innocent hard working priests and teachers. In no way am I condoning anything but I would be careful of a witch hunt. And apart from all of that anyone who thinks all gay men are peadophiles is a total idiot.
]]><p>There may be more or maybe less than the percentage quoted. However there is a culture of claim in Ireland that encourages kids to go for what they can get. I’m sure a lot of claims are unfounded and have ruined the lives of innocent hard working priests and teachers. In no way am I condoning anything but I would be careful of a witch hunt. And apart from all of that anyone who thinks all gay men are peadophiles is a total idiot.</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38694/abusing-children-awful-sin-stop-pearly-gates-im-417622/
Luke Stevens2012-05-24http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38694/abusing-children-awful-sin-stop-pearly-gates-im-417622/Abusing children is an awful ‘sin’, if they stop me at the pearly gates I’m going use what these priests did as an argument to gain entrance.
]]><p>Abusing children is an awful ‘sin’, if they stop me at the pearly gates I’m going use what these priests did as an argument to gain entrance.</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/26631/second-trying-post-comment-418014/
Dhakina's Sword2012-05-25http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/26631/second-trying-post-comment-418014/Second time trying to post this comment. I’ll keep it short and hope for the best. Ireland has over one hundred thousand psychopaths living here. Other countries are pretty similar, but vary regarding their percentages. In Ireland, it’s estimated at between two,to three per cent of the population. That means that there are over one hundred thousand psychopaths in Ireland. I think that the vast majority of pedophiles priests, were actually psychopaths masquerading as priests. Bear in mind that psychopaths perceive people as objects, and that they would see no difference between seeing a child being murdered and seeing a bin falling over. They feel nothing. They can’t feel anything because that part of their brain does not work. The scary thing is that all other parts of their brains work normally, to such a degree, that it leads us into a false sense of security, regarding their trustworthiness. They are not to be trusted under any circumstances. You have been warned.
]]><p>Second time trying to post this comment. I’ll keep it short and hope for the best. Ireland has over one hundred thousand psychopaths living here. Other countries are pretty similar, but vary regarding their percentages. In Ireland, it’s estimated at between two,to three per cent of the population. That means that there are over one hundred thousand psychopaths in Ireland. I think that the vast majority of pedophiles priests, were actually psychopaths masquerading as priests. Bear in mind that psychopaths perceive people as objects, and that they would see no difference between seeing a child being murdered and seeing a bin falling over. They feel nothing. They can’t feel anything because that part of their brain does not work. The scary thing is that all other parts of their brains work normally, to such a degree, that it leads us into a false sense of security, regarding their trustworthiness. They are not to be trusted under any circumstances. You have been warned.</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/31724/i-dont-disagree-priests-getting-married-i-its-417619/
Nick Beard2012-05-24http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/31724/i-dont-disagree-priests-getting-married-i-its-417619/I don’t disagree with you on priests getting married, but I do think it’s important to note that the vast majority of those who perpetrate childhood sexual abuse are heterosexual men against young girls. Equating paedophilia with gay men is just not totally accurate.

It’s important to develop good safeguarding procedures for all children to be protected from any kind of abuse from figures like priests and teachers.

]]><p>I don’t disagree with you on priests getting married, but I do think it’s important to note that the vast majority of those who perpetrate childhood sexual abuse are heterosexual men against young girls. Equating paedophilia with gay men is just not totally accurate.</p>
<p>It’s important to develop good safeguarding procedures for all children to be protected from any kind of abuse from figures like priests and teachers.</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38692/derek-mooneys-favorite-bridge-dublin-butt-bridge-417616/
Haywood Jablowme2012-05-24http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38692/derek-mooneys-favorite-bridge-dublin-butt-bridge-417616/Derek Mooney’s favorite bridge in Dublin is Butt Bridge….FACT
]]><p>Derek Mooney’s favorite bridge in Dublin is Butt Bridge….FACT</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/36942/there-afterlifelifes-great-mystery-answered-what-atheism-blind-418062/
Sean Hickey2012-05-25http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/36942/there-afterlifelifes-great-mystery-answered-what-atheism-blind-418062/There is no afterlife?
Life’s great mystery answered here first? What then is atheism but another blind faith. I believe there is an afterlife and it is not a Catholic issue. The mystics and teachings from thousands across all religions have recorded great and some experiences at death.
A profound statement like there is no afterlife and all the priests know it to is an example of where your pen is quicker than your mind.
]]><p>There is no afterlife?<br />
Life’s great mystery answered here first? What then is atheism but another blind faith. I believe there is an afterlife and it is not a Catholic issue. The mystics and teachings from thousands across all religions have recorded great and some experiences at death.<br />
A profound statement like there is no afterlife and all the priests know it to is an example of where your pen is quicker than your mind.</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/26631/yes-seamus-indeed-referred-sociopaths-opposed-psychopaths-nowadays-418036/
Dhakina's Sword2012-05-25http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/26631/yes-seamus-indeed-referred-sociopaths-opposed-psychopaths-nowadays-418036/Yes Seamus, they are indeed referred to as sociopaths, as opposed to psychopaths, nowadays. The old verification deemed psychopaths as having no ability to feel remorse empathy etc. , regardless of circumstance. The difference with sociopaths was that they could feel remorse, compassion etc. within their own environment but nowhere else. An important difference, I think.
]]><p>Yes Seamus, they are indeed referred to as sociopaths, as opposed to psychopaths, nowadays. The old verification deemed psychopaths as having no ability to feel remorse empathy etc. , regardless of circumstance. The difference with sociopaths was that they could feel remorse, compassion etc. within their own environment but nowhere else. An important difference, I think.</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/36942/sorry-john-417829/
Sean Hickey2012-05-24http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/36942/sorry-john-417829/Sorry John.
I simply don’t accept your statistic that every 2nd child was been felt up.
It makes for a great tale but I don’t accept it’s true anymore than summers were warmer when I was a kid.
It’s all nostalgic nonsense.
The only point I am trying to make is that the vast majority in the religious orders did not abuse. You can call them weird, creepy, anything you want but don’t brand them all abusers.
]]><p>Sorry John.<br />
I simply don’t accept your statistic that every 2nd child was been felt up.<br />
It makes for a great tale but I don’t accept it’s true anymore than summers were warmer when I was a kid.<br />
It’s all nostalgic nonsense.<br />
The only point I am trying to make is that the vast majority in the religious orders did not abuse. You can call them weird, creepy, anything you want but don’t brand them all abusers.</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/21551/quiet-low-percentage-i-expecting-higher-bishops-per-418708/
Glyko Symoritis2012-05-25http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/21551/quiet-low-percentage-i-expecting-higher-bishops-per-418708/Quiet low percentage, I was expecting a higher number, how many bishops per 100? How many in jail so far, I’m asking cause I know a couple of inmates in the joy that will be very happy to be introduced to these holly man, so they can treat them right…
]]><p>Quiet low percentage, I was expecting a higher number, how many bishops per 100? How many in jail so far, I’m asking cause I know a couple of inmates in the joy that will be very happy to be introduced to these holly man, so they can treat them right…</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38118/john-f-418179/
Stephen Boland2012-05-25http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38118/john-f-418179/John F. You are right “Legacy” But you do not exist, except in the minds of those who are left behind and as time moves on and they too will expire so too will any memory of you until you are completely forgotten. So whether you are remembered or not, it will not affect you because you won’t exist. However this is not as depressing a thought as the one where you could be going to some place called hell unless you repeat some ridiculous lines made up by some monk with a pointed hat. As for the alternative …believing in your local magic man who’s main trick is turning biscuits into body parts and wine into blood, surely he would be a great asset down at the blood transfusion unit.
]]><p>John F. You are right “Legacy” But you do not exist, except in the minds of those who are left behind and as time moves on and they too will expire so too will any memory of you until you are completely forgotten. So whether you are remembered or not, it will not affect you because you won’t exist. However this is not as depressing a thought as the one where you could be going to some place called hell unless you repeat some ridiculous lines made up by some monk with a pointed hat. As for the alternative …believing in your local magic man who’s main trick is turning biscuits into body parts and wine into blood, surely he would be a great asset down at the blood transfusion unit.</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/22515/look-crybaby-archbishop-637611/
Robert Tobin2012-09-30http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/22515/look-crybaby-archbishop-637611/Look at that Crybaby Archbishop. He must resign and the Evil Roman Catholic Church must pay decent compensation to it’s victims then get the hell out of Ireland.
]]><p>Look at that Crybaby Archbishop. He must resign and the Evil Roman Catholic Church must pay decent compensation to it’s victims then get the hell out of Ireland.</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/87150/organization-harbored-supervising-963838/
Patty Gallagher2013-02-23http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/87150/organization-harbored-supervising-963838/so the organization that harbored them is now “supervising them.” and is to paraphrase, more effective at it then the government???? wake up ireland.
]]><p>so the organization that harbored them is now “supervising them.” and is to paraphrase, more effective at it then the government???? wake up ireland.</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/73067/if-accused-actually-raped-children-811389/
Neil Allen2012-12-24http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/73067/if-accused-actually-raped-children-811389/If 1 in 14 was accused, then 5 or 6 out of 14 actually raped children. In the US, it was 4,392 out of 104,000 from the Cahtolic church’s own report.

THis is the world’s largest child rape cult, and the world’s largest hoarder of huge wealth.

God has made it so clear that this isn’t God’s church, and those who follow it will pay the price for eternity.

]]><p>If 1 in 14 was accused, then 5 or 6 out of 14 actually raped children. In the US, it was 4,392 out of 104,000 from the Cahtolic church’s own report.</p>
<p>THis is the world’s largest child rape cult, and the world’s largest hoarder of huge wealth.</p>
<p>God has made it so clear that this isn’t God’s church, and those who follow it will pay the price for eternity.</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38118/the-pen-quick-mind-rather-silly-statement-pen-418084/
Stephen Boland2012-05-25http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38118/the-pen-quick-mind-rather-silly-statement-pen-418084/The pen is more quick than the mind? rather a silly statement, as the pen, being an inanimate object, relys totally on the mind of the user.
]]><p>The pen is more quick than the mind? rather a silly statement, as the pen, being an inanimate object, relys totally on the mind of the user.</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38118/another-adjustment-reply-i-mention-atheism-ism-mine-418069/
Stephen Boland2012-05-25http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38118/another-adjustment-reply-i-mention-atheism-ism-mine-418069/Another small adjustment to your reply; I did not mention Atheism or any other “ism” mine is not a belief but more an acceptance of The Reality that we are no different to any other life form on this planet and nothing is repeated or duplicated.
]]><p>Another small adjustment to your reply; I did not mention Atheism or any other “ism” mine is not a belief but more an acceptance of The Reality that we are no different to any other life form on this planet and nothing is repeated or duplicated.</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/33734/is-ones-caught-418109/
Dexter Gordon2012-05-25http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/33734/is-ones-caught-418109/Is this just the ones that have been caught?
]]><p>Is this just the ones that have been caught?</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38118/john-f-sorry-truth-never-lets-once-accept-418152/
Stephen Boland2012-05-25http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38118/john-f-sorry-truth-never-lets-once-accept-418152/John F, Sorry but the truth never lets you down and once you accept it’s value, you start to adjust your thinking so that life becomes even more precious.
]]><p>John F, Sorry but the truth never lets you down and once you accept it’s value, you start to adjust your thinking so that life becomes even more precious.</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38018/protestant-clergy-ireland-abuse-children-teens-984852/
Jack Colleton2013-03-03http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38018/protestant-clergy-ireland-abuse-children-teens-984852/protestant clergy in Ireland abuse children and teens too
]]><p>protestant clergy in Ireland abuse children and teens too</p>
http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38128/you-leave-ponies-418029/
seamus mcdermott2012-05-25http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/38128/you-leave-ponies-418029/You leave the ponies out of this!
]]><p>You leave the ponies out of this!</p>