Re: Are there any mistakes that bug you?

Originally Posted by Bot of Badassness

Any at all, like the Punch in the glass at the party, tire marks, scenes not cut properly, Dev's balls etc

I have 3:

1. The Smithsonian to Airforce Graveyard2. Wheelie's disappearence3. Proberly the one that bugs me the most. The midget guy guarding the border in Egypt. He let BB and Wheelie through because of what Simmons said about Sam, Leo, and Megan being his kids. So how did Mudflap and Skids get through? Wouldn't it be better if Sam and Leo were in them or something, cos' what are their holograms going to do?

you got any? The film has tons of them, the critics can't stop about them, but just the ones that creep into your mind everytime.

I think this thread should be renamed to "Editing or Artistic Liberties Taken That I Do Not Like."

Re: Are there any mistakes that bug you?

Originally Posted by nelson

I think this thread should be renamed to "Editing or Artistic Liberties Taken That I Do Not Like."

Instantly going from the East Coast to Tucson is a mistake, not an artistic liberty. Miscounting bots at the bottom of the ocean is not an editing choice. And I CERTAINLY don't think trying to assume we are geographically ignorant is a valid reason for the completely ridiculous middle east romp. Let's not make excuses for what happened, Nelson. I WOULD like to hear Michael's comments about these errors, though.

I still liked the movie, but not for any sense of cohesive plot or sensible writing. I'd even wager to say that MB's creativity and excellent direction was the only thing that saved the movie from a godawful writing job. I'm glad we're picking up some new writers this time around.

Re: Are there any mistakes that bug you?

Originally Posted by Drake

Instantly going from the East Coast to Tucson is a mistake, not an artistic liberty. Miscounting bots at the bottom of the ocean is not an editing choice. And I CERTAINLY don't think trying to assume we are geographically ignorant is a valid reason for the completely ridiculous middle east romp. Let's not make excuses for what happened, Nelson. I WOULD like to hear Michael's comments about these errors, though.

I still liked the movie, but not for any sense of cohesive plot or sensible writing. I'd even wager to say that MB's creativity and excellent direction was the only thing that saved the movie from a godawful writing job. I'm glad we're picking up some new writers this time around.

AFAIK TF3 only has one writer and it's one of the writers of ROTF, and he's also the one rumored(as far as I've read elsewhere) to be the one who added a lot of the immature jokes, ala farting.

Re: Are there any mistakes that bug you?

Originally Posted by Drake

I don't know about Egypt, but the stuff in Iraq is like talc, and all the jumping about probably kept any of it from sticking..

I don't know, I remember watching ROTF saturday and somebody pointed out that her pants don't get dirty, so I looked to see if they did. I noticed that as soon as they got out of the space bridge and they hit the groud they were dirty.....

Re: Are there any mistakes that bug you?

Originally Posted by Drake

Instantly going from the East Coast to Tucson is a mistake, not an artistic liberty.

As much as you may not like it, it is artistic license. It was a conscious decision done by Bay, He even talks about it on the commentary. It's not like Bay didn't know Virginia and Arizona weren't next to each other.

And I CERTAINLY don't think trying to assume we are geographically ignorant is a valid reason for the completely ridiculous middle east romp.

Again, artistic license. I'm sure Bay knows the middle east. He just isn't going to be showing you each location's geographical relevance to the other. You should have gotten the hint with the Air Museum/Arizona thing.

Re: Are there any mistakes that bug you?

i know that hes the one that was shooting his wheel, but i dont remember anyone saying "ooohh"..hmm...well, another thing is that ironhide bearly does anything in the desert..the only ppl that do stuff there are op, jetfire, and a little bit of bumblebee

Re: Are there any mistakes that bug you?

These aren't really mistakes but they are kind of inaccuracies.

1. Optimus flip/switch scene at the end when he looks up, then looks down.
2. Mikaela flying out to get Sam. She arrived way too quickly. It would have taken at least 7 hours, if she found a flight at that exact time.
3. The pretender scene would have earned a lot of attention from police, the swat team, fire department, and eventually military.

Re: Are there any mistakes that bug you?

I think Ive finally accepted the "mistakes" after many viewings. Initially they bothered me greatly. I think it came down to my personal expectations thats were never realized. The mistakes and continuity issues didnt appear to be difficult ones to over come and fix so I got the feeling that the powers that be either ran out of time or were lazy. (doesnt matter anymore)

The Ironhide flighting Demolisher is a perfect example of the other issue I had with the movie. You have these incredible robots beautifully rendered and with amazing personalities and characteristics and they rarely get any screen time or play a relevent part. If they do its so fast you have no idea what happened.

Ironhide: 5 seconds initial transofrmation. 2 seconds fighting Demolisher. A couple driving scenes. 2 seconds evacuating Sam after forest fight. Most screen time was arguing with military about their deportation. 3 seconds in desert in final battle taking on Bonecrusher look alike.

Ratchet: A couple driving scenes. 2 seconds evacuating Sam after forest fight. Most screen time was arguing with military about their deportation. 2 seconds seeing him cock the gun on his arm in the final desert battle. 2 seconds telling Jolt to hook up Jetfire and OP.

Sideswipe: 7 seconds to kill Sideways. A couple driving scenes. 2 seconds evacuating Sam after forest fight. 3 seconds arguing with military about their deportation. 2 seconds shooting in the final desert battle.

Jolt: A couple driving scenes. 3 seconds while others argued about deportation. 3 seconds to hook up Jetfire and OP.

It wasnt until I got the BluRay and watched about 20 min of the movie in Slo Mo could I finally understand and appriciate a little more of the movie. This isnt a bad thing as I appriciate the extreme detail but I also feel that as a viewer I shouldnt have to watch a movie in slo mo to understand who is doing what and where.

Again just my opinion and I like the movie more everytime I watch it since Im always seeing new things. I am only critical because I like what Bay has done for the Transformers series so much and as a result I have probably unrealistic expectations. "Shoot for perfection!!"

Re: Are there any mistakes that bug you?

Wow... Thanks for those stats man! You see people, the only robots that got decent screen time were bee, op, m/s,wheelie, jetfire, megs, and starscream.... Ypu dont even see much of the fallen!! all the rest u see are for a few minutes TOTAL fighting, driving, etc... That's sad....a robot movie barely any robots doing real stuff..

Re: Are there any mistakes that bug you?

Originally Posted by Mech_1000

2. Mikaela flying out to get Sam. She arrived way too quickly. It would have taken at least 7 hours, if she found a flight at that exact time.

When I first saw this part in the movie I thought it was the next day, since Mikaela does change her outfit. We don't really know what time the class was and what time Mikaela got there. Sam's class could have been early and when Alice went to his room could have been later. Remember she had to finish the class Sam got kicked out of. Mikaela just pulled into work when Sam called so it could have been 7-8 her time which is 10-11 his time....

Re: Are there any mistakes that bug you?

Originally Posted by littleman794

Wow... Thanks for those stats man! You see people, the only robots that got decent screen time were bee, op, m/s,wheelie, jetfire, megs, and starscream.... Ypu dont even see much of the fallen!! all the rest u see are for a few minutes TOTAL fighting, driving, etc... That's sad....a robot movie barely any robots doing real stuff..

The times are just me guessing based on my memory. So dont quote my exact screen times

To be honest this is were my dislike of the twins originates. I think adding the twins at the expense of less screen time for Ironhide, Ratchet, Sideswipe and Jolt was not a good choice. As Nelson stated this is an artistic choice and mearly just my opinion.

As Ive stated before I was hoping for an epic battle between Ironhide, Ratchet and Sideswipe vs Devastator. Once of my favorite scenes from TF1 was when Jazz, Ironhide, and Ratchet took on (ironically enough) Devastator but really Brawl. Although it wasnt long enough either.