Looking at it on eBay, most of them are going for slightly over market value. And when I say that, I mean "what they appear to be selling for", not "what people are asking for it". Not really the kind of margin worth taking a chance on 300-dollar hardware.

Mike_LowELL:Looking at it on eBay, most of them are going for slightly over market value. And when I say that, I mean "what they appear to be selling for", not "what people are asking for it". Not really the kind of margin worth taking a chance on 300-dollar hardware.

Especially when you consider the fact that ebay takes ten percent of the final sale value, plus listing fees, plus paypal fees.

miniflea:Especially when you consider the fact that ebay takes ten percent of the final sale value, plus listing fees, plus paypal fees.

Forgot to mention that, and yeah, it pretty much destroys the "Buy Wii U Get Rich Quick" scheme. As somebody who is genuinely interested in a device, the lack of a manic panic rush to purchase the console slightly concerns me, but we all knew this was going to happen.

I saw earlier today that there's a day one patch that checks in at 5 GB. So if you get the non-premium version of the console, you get to lose nearly half of your console storage. Also, if you manage to lose power to the device during the 5 GB download, you now own a very attractive brick.

NeoCortex42:I saw earlier today that there's a day one patch that checks in at 5 GB. So if you get the non-premium version of the console, you get to lose nearly half of your console storage. Also, if you manage to lose power to the device during the 5 GB download, you now own a very attractive brick.

I'm sure Nintendo would service any bricked WiiU... unless you did so trying to jailbreak it. But losing your new WiiU for a couple of weeks would still suck.

Nintendo is still behind with small storage sizes, a lack of achievement system and online profiles.

Jedekai:styckx: Britney Spear's Speculum: Yes, this totally is worth the 349.99 + 69.99 for the game.

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Whoops one of those images is from the old wii game. Guess which one?

Oh and no online multiplayer. Awesome.

Why are you posting pictures of Gamecube?

Because it's a Nintendo system. Technicolor vomit and crippled hardware for all!

/Oh; and a new Metroid game featuring Shameless Aryan and developed by... oh, who farking cares. It isn't Metroid anymore.

I agree.. Nintendo has been dead since the N64.. Ever since then they went full Apple and EA sports.. The ut-most minimal hardware upgrades, then repackage the the same shiat in a new case w/ one over priced feature.

I'm willing to be there are still lines of code in the Wii-U firmware dating back to 1996

NeoCortex42:I saw earlier today that there's a day one patch that checks in at 5 GB. So if you get the non-premium version of the console, you get to lose nearly half of your console storage.

Patches rarely add their entire size to the OS. Unless the patch is actually new content, what's more likely is that those 5 gigs will replace existing files. So you'll need 5 gigs of free space to perform the patch, but then that space will be freed when it's done. Apple does similar stuff with their major iOS releases.

This crap where they only let console units trickle in little-by-little to extend the hype is why I never got a Wii. I wasn't about to spend my free-time running down stores or camping out early so I have a shot at getting one, then having to do the same to get another controller. By the time the hype was over and the console was easy to get like anything else that's for sale in a modern economy, I lost interest in the idea of having one.

If you are an adult, you can register online no problem. If you are a minor, you have to enter a credit card and be charged $0.50 to prove you have your parents' permission. Unless you lie and say you're an adult, in which case you can register online with no problem.

styckx:I agree.. Nintendo has been dead since the N64.. Ever since then they went full Apple and EA sports.. The ut-most minimal hardware upgrades, then repackage the the same shiat in a new case w/ one over priced feature.

animal900:NeoCortex42: I saw earlier today that there's a day one patch that checks in at 5 GB. So if you get the non-premium version of the console, you get to lose nearly half of your console storage.

Patches rarely add their entire size to the OS. Unless the patch is actually new content, what's more likely is that those 5 gigs will replace existing files. So you'll need 5 gigs of free space to perform the patch, but then that space will be freed when it's done. Apple does similar stuff with their major iOS releases.

A lot of the patch is adding new content/functionality, though. It is eating into the available memory a bit, and just goes to show how uselessly small the basic system model is.

I'm going to pass on this one. My Wii was fun and all, when I had a party. Otherwise it just sits under the TV, unused.

It's the lack of processing capability that proved its undoing with me. The Wii had lame specs on its hardware, so the graphics were lackluster. Graphics aren't everything - we definitely had a lot of fun playing tennis and bowling during parties - but they do matter. For my regular gaming the eye candy just wasn't enough to compete.

So from what I understand this one doesn't seem like it's going to be any match for the graphics power of the next Xbox and Playstation - hobbling the Wii U games in the long run as well. Really was hoping Nintendo would have done better on the specs this time around...

If you are an adult, you can register online no problem. If you are a minor, you have to enter a credit card and be charged $0.50 to prove you have your parents' permission. Unless you lie and say you're an adult, in which case you can register online with no problem.

Why does Nintendo have such a problem with online functionality?

That's not actually intended to be effective. That's what you might call a "cover your bases" move that will protect Nintendo from accusations that their online consoles are unsafe for kids/allow pedos to find them/whatever else Fox News finds to be scared about.

In short, it looks like you're doing something when in reality it's meaningless.

mongbiohazard:I'm going to pass on this one. My Wii was fun and all, when I had a party. Otherwise it just sits under the TV, unused.

It's the lack of processing capability that proved its undoing with me. The Wii had lame specs on its hardware, so the graphics were lackluster. Graphics aren't everything - we definitely had a lot of fun playing tennis and bowling during parties - but they do matter. For my regular gaming the eye candy just wasn't enough to compete.

So from what I understand this one doesn't seem like it's going to be any match for the graphics power of the next Xbox and Playstation - hobbling the Wii U games in the long run as well. Really was hoping Nintendo would have done better on the specs this time around...

I don't think the biggest problem of the Wii was graphics (although it was a weak point). Nintendo managed to make some great looking games with Super Mario Galaxy, for instance.

The biggest weakness of the Wii was the software support. There was very little good third-party software. All of the great games were produced by Nintendo.

I will say this, I have a release day wii that I hacked with the HBC and what-have-you. I have the NES, snes and N64 emulators so it pretty much allows me to have every nintendo title from my childhood in one system.

Mike_LowELL:miniflea: Especially when you consider the fact that ebay takes ten percent of the final sale value, plus listing fees, plus paypal fees.

Forgot to mention that, and yeah, it pretty much destroys the "Buy Wii U Get Rich Quick" scheme. As somebody who is genuinely interested in a device, the lack of a manic panic rush to purchase the console slightly concerns me, but we all knew this was going to happen.

Jedekai: Nintendo decided to join the party a decade late.

If I get a catalog of games roughly on-par with the Nintendo GameCube, then I'll be perfectly happy with it.

Don't worry, you'll get the Game Cube catalog with one additional board each and use of the tablet thingee mandatory and tacked on

Wii.Tard:styckx: I agree.. Nintendo has been dead since the N64.. Ever since then they went full Apple and EA sports.. The ut-most minimal hardware upgrades, then repackage the the same shiat in a new case w/ one over priced feature.

In other words, Apple.

Only Apple as seen by farkers. iPhone 5 benchmarks completely show that it's the fatest smartphone, hardly an "minimal hardware upgrade". But please, feel free to ignore reality.

If you are an adult, you can register online no problem. If you are a minor, you have to enter a credit card and be charged $0.50 to prove you have your parents' permission. Unless you lie and say you're an adult, in which case you can register online with no problem.

Why does Nintendo have such a problem with online functionality?

Having known people who worked for Nintendo, their whole motto is protecting children because they know/think their bread is buttered by the child/family market. So they will never put themselves into a situation where they could be perceived to be corrupting children or allowing some sort of situation where a child/parent might be offended by something related to their product. Every single thing they make is carefully chosen and must be checked by lots of different people to make sure it falls inline with the Nintendo brand and to make sure it doesn't offend anyone including animations, art, themes, story plots, etc. They avoid online interactions as much as possible due to this issue since it is completely unpredictable (other than the fact that they can predict people will be jerks and inappropriate). Anyway, this is mostly just to protect their asses legally.

OriginalGamer:Wii.Tard: styckx: I agree.. Nintendo has been dead since the N64.. Ever since then they went full Apple and EA sports.. The ut-most minimal hardware upgrades, then repackage the the same shiat in a new case w/ one over priced feature.

In other words, Apple.

Only Apple as seen by farkers. iPhone 5 benchmarks completely show that it's the fatest smartphone, hardly an "minimal hardware upgrade". But please, feel free to ignore reality.

I don't get WiiU. How is it different than a Wii, except for the DS controller (which I don't particularly see the appeal for)?

I'm not being snarky, I am really interested to find out what is new about it. Is it supposed to actually be powerful enough to handle more hardcore games? Or is it just that you can run it with a controller with a mini screen?

burndtdan:I don't get WiiU. How is it different than a Wii, except for the DS controller (which I don't particularly see the appeal for)?

I'm not being snarky, I am really interested to find out what is new about it. Is it supposed to actually be powerful enough to handle more hardcore games? Or is it just that you can run it with a controller with a mini screen?

It can actually output 1080p content and has an HDMI port. The big selling point is the tablet controller. As far as raw power, I think it ranks above the 360/PS3, but will probably end up being well behind the 720/PS4 when those eventually release.

It's completely backwards compatible with the Wii. In fact, it requires some Wii hardware like the remotes and nunchucks for multiplayer games. However,it does drop Gamecube support entirely.

burndtdan:I don't get WiiU. How is it different than a Wii, except for the DS controller (which I don't particularly see the appeal for)?

I'm not being snarky, I am really interested to find out what is new about it. Is it supposed to actually be powerful enough to handle more hardcore games? Or is it just that you can run it with a controller with a mini screen?

It does HD and supports an Xbox-like wireless controller. Most of the launch games are ports, like Assassins Creed, Arkham, and Black Ops.

They're also pushing remote-control functionality for your tv, with channel guides and such. At the very least, the touchscreen will make it easier to type shiat in. Can't count the number of times PS3 wants me to enter my netflix email and password.

OriginalGamer:Wii.Tard: styckx: I agree.. Nintendo has been dead since the N64.. Ever since then they went full Apple and EA sports.. The ut-most minimal hardware upgrades, then repackage the the same shiat in a new case w/ one over priced feature.

In other words, Apple.

Only Apple as seen by farkers. iPhone 5 benchmarks completely show that it's the fatest smartphone, hardly an "minimal hardware upgrade". But please, feel free to ignore reality.

Finally got LTE after everyone and their grandmother had it, the 5 also has horrible battery life unless you throttle it back to 3g, not to mention the unitended data use on Verizon and ATT, that they had too patch, and horrible maps.

I have one and my Galaxy S2 has a bigger screen and is just a better phone.

The mhz wars are over on cell phones, being faster really doesnt matter, when there is nothing really to showcase the speed of the phone but a benchmark.

And 90% of all iphone users barely use any of the features on the phone, and have them as a status symbol.

/customer service mgr at one of the largest carriers, and I speak to entitled iphone users every day.

If that's true then I may get one. Me and the GF were talking about it and decided we weren't going to get it since we don't play the Wii enough to warrant getting a new system AND trashing out old games... I may know what to get her for Christmas now.

Do you know if I can transfer over games we bought and DL'd to the Wii? or are those lost? (we have some classic Nintendo games like Super Mario 3)

why are there still side scroller games? seriously. hasnt video game play advanced since 1984?

does anyone have one? what is your impression of it? I had a wii and loved it immensely for about 2 months, before never touching it again, and eventually selling it when i realized it had collected so much dust. im not terribly excited to get a wiiu, sadly.

mongbiohazard : It's the lack of processing capability that proved its undoing with me. The Wii had lame specs on its hardware, so the graphics were lackluster. Graphics aren't everything - we definitely had a lot of fun playing tennis and bowling during parties - but they do matter. For my regular gaming the eye candy just wasn't enough to compete.

I was a big Nintendo fan, back in the SNES days, then I discovered desktop gaming, and by the time I went back to consoles, it was xbox time for me.

The Wii's lack of processing power doesn't just show in graphics.

You also need horsepower to crunch physics and enemy AI (either having a few "smart" enemies, or hundreds of "dumb" enemies). EX, look at what Dead Rising turned into on the Wii.

If that's true then I may get one. Me and the GF were talking about it and decided we weren't going to get it since we don't play the Wii enough to warrant getting a new system AND trashing out old games... I may know what to get her for Christmas now.

Do you know if I can transfer over games we bought and DL'd to the Wii? or are those lost? (we have some classic Nintendo games like Super Mario 3)

Yes, you can transfer everything from a Wii. It's a one-time operation that carries over most of your WiiWare and Virtual console games as well as any gamesaves (except Gamecube) on the system. It's done by swapping an SD card back and forth between the Wii and the Wii U.

All of the Wii peripherals are compatible with the Wii U. Any game with more than one play will require at least a Wii remote. So those will definitely be around for a while.

thisiszombocom:why are there still side scroller games? seriously. hasnt video game play advanced since 1984?

Because 2D games can focus on design and mechanics over adding another layer of texture to some rocks? Some of the best 2D games came out in the 90's, and there have been amazing ones released in just the last year. You don't have to like them, but that comment is retarded.

OK, we get it. People buy stuff to resell it on Ebay and then after Christmas return it to the store when it doesn't sell. Can't stores charge a restocking fee on anything returned after Christmas that was bought more than 30 days before?

thisiszombocom:Britney Spear's Speculum: Yes, this totally is worth the 349.99 + 69.99 for the game.

why are there still side scroller games? seriously. hasnt video game play advanced since 1984?

Why are there still FPS games? Jeez... I played my first FPS in the mid-80s on my Commodore 64, and the first one was developed in the late 1970s.Why are there still RPGs? Hasn't video game play advanced since the mid 1970s?Why are there still puzzle games? Hasn't video game play advanced since the late 1960s?Why are there still books? Hasn't reading evolved since the 5th century?