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How do you know how long it took him to make this?? Were you there at his side minute to minute when he was making it??
It very easily could have taken him that long if he took his time and did not rush. And seeing the quality job he did, i would say he did not rush.

And if for some reason you did not notice, he did create a name for it, "the Fearsome Frame"

People.. Nitro spent a good deal of time on this, whether you like to admit it or not.

And even IF he spent lets say.. all 30 minutes on making this flash vid? He still deserves a little credit for being original (in comparison to the other posts in the contest, before someone picks this post apart). He had the additional insight to make his entrance that much more noticiable and the credit is his.

Now this doesn't mean he will automatically win the contest. Did Tom name the winner yet? Nope.

At the end of the day Tom and his team will be the ones deciding the winner of this show.

People forget something, no one said I won, no one said I haven't. Lets wait till Sunday to see what happens.

No matter what happens, even if Tom decides that the name should be the barney frame or the tom kaye frame , you're going to have to realize that Tom Kaye made the equipment we're using today. We should all trust Tom's decision when he makes it, not before he has!

<font face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by irbodden:errr... why should you win? that movie can't be placed on the top of the packages, tom asked for new names. and, considering that video couldn't have taken 15 hours, this is getting a bit crazy. dude, all you used were basic effects that designsbymark outlines. and to top it off, you play with an autococker.

i am sorry if i am acting a little angry, i held back form posting this earlier, but when someone claims a movie took 15 hours, when it really could have been done in under 2 and fooling the general people of ao is pretty crazy. ask chaos how long something like that would take, he infact uses flash as well.

would you like to see me back a flash movie? btw you dont need to tween the letters alone, you could tween an entire slogan if you wanted. if i find my self with an idle hour or two, i could make a movie just to back up my statement on time.

You probabally could do it in a hour , but i can't. I'm not the greatest at flash , and atleast i TRIED , i tried to do something nice for AGD and the contest , but you're really actin crappy about it. Why do you have to bash me , my movie and my name?

First off, I have used a Mag for almost 2 years. Some (or most) of the people on the forum do not realize 2 people post under this name (my brother and I), I own a Cocker, and my brother owns a Mag. We both came up with the name "Fearsome Frame". I think that other people came up with very good names as well, but I did the flash movie just to make my name more origonal, and show AGD a few slogans if they should pick my name. Some names are great, but if they can't figure out a slogan, it'll never sell. It's called marketing.

As for the 15 hours. I spent 2 hours ALONE on editing the music. I spent nearly a hour on creating the animations for the "A" in AGD. Whether you realize it or not, I had to make 50 unique frames without animation tweens.

And in all honesty, I think it's sad that someone would flame another persons idea and have the reason that they own a cocker. If that made a few of our ideas non-valid, I am sure that more than half of the people here would be disqualified because they own other guns! I don't only own a cocker and mag as well, I also own a trracer and getting a angel. Does that make me less of a AGD fan? Is my name offencive to some that I use a different brand nitrogen system? All I know is I shoot what I like and I stand behind AGD's products 100% even though I dont use all of them for one reason or another.

ok I only read the first half. Nitroduck - good video, I see areas of improvement such as how to properly import a picture into flash so its not all pixelated, and other things, but I must say its a great effort. Very original, had I thought of it I would have done the same style thing.

Now, I'm not bashing, but the contest IS for the name, not a movie. If you wanted to do a movie contest, I know I could bust something out with a lot of effort for a chance to win an RT pro or even a warp, it doesn't seem fair to me you win for creating a movie. I'd say for the originality and effort, you deserve something, but to win the contest, I think it should be based on the name and not the movie.

Oh and on another note, people dont understand how easy flash is. All it is is motion and shape tweens. You put in point A and point B, and the program does the rest of the pretty changing and such. Creating something like that wouldn't be the hardest thing to do, just takes time to get it to flow properly. I'm not saying it didn't take hime 15hrs, I'll take his word that it took something like that, and thats a great effort and he deserves a new blade frame or something.

This gets me thinking, do I get brownie points if I make a nice flash movie with the usage of one of the names i suggested?

When I said 15 hours, I meant 15 hours on everything, not just the flash. I spent about 6 hours on the movie, and the 9 hours was spent on thinking up the next part on the movie (I did all this without forethough).

As for the pixelated images, the origonal images I used was 50x30 pixels in a thumbnail image from AGDs site. I couldn't find anything better.

Oh also, if you're still wondering about the other 3-5 hours that I haven't accounted for......I spent thoes working on the song. please listen to Ozzy Osbourne's "Perry Mason" I had to remix it with a program that's almost like windows audio player.

As for all the people saying I shouldn't win because I made a moive. The only reason I did the movie was to provide a origonal way to promote my idea for the Fearsome Frame. My logic was
" Why make a 10 character text slogan for something great when you can use flash to get your point accross for the frame much better" . I just made it because I had far to many slogans and ideas for the Fearsome frame than a text-baised forum could hold.

When I said 15 hours, I meant 15 hours on everything, not just the flash. I spent about 6 hours on the movie, and the 9 hours was spent on thinking up the next part on the movie (I did all this without forethough).

As for the pixelated images, the origonal images I used was 50x30 pixels in a thumbnail image from AGDs site. I couldn't find anything better.

Oh also, if you're still wondering about the other 3-5 hours that I haven't accounted for......I spent thoes working on the song. please listen to Ozzy Osbourne's "Perry Mason" I had to remix it with a program that's almost like windows audio player.

As for all the people saying I shouldn't win because I made a moive. The only reason I did the movie was to provide a origonal way to promote my idea for the Fearsome Frame. My logic was
" Why make a 10 character text slogan for something great when you can use flash to get your point accross for the frame much better" . I just made it because I had far to many slogans and ideas for the Fearsome frame than a text-baised forum could hold.

<font face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by XspyX:Why should nitroduck win because he made a little flash animation? It is a "NAME" contest.

If his name gets it, great. But I don't think his movie should take the chances away from others who thought up great names.

Just my $.07

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My thoughts exactly. Some people took time to think up very good names. Many(most)of these same people do not have the skills necessary to make a video advertising the product. I think in no way should the skills of one person unfairly take an advantage over all of the others who participated.

nitro- yes i have talked to you in the chats, i never said you shouldn't win either, but that flash work didn't take 15 hours, and in some ways you admitted that. You may have "thought" of making the video for 9 hours, but it really only took 6 hours. Chaos, who also uses flash even said it straight out. You tween the whole slogan not just letters. I just dont like when people lie about the amount of work they put into something so they look better. I could think about what show on tv i wanna watch for 5 hours, and than watch is for an hour. That doesn't mean it took me 6 hours to watch tv. i am lucky chaos came and saw it the same way as me.

nice movie but like others have said, you creating the movie should not make your chances of winning the contest better. Nothing against the "Fearsome Frame", but IMHO, there are MANY better names in that thread...lol dont take it the wrong way, Please!

All in all I spent 14 hours. I am sure you could do it in 2 hours, but I am NOT lying that it took me 14 hours. Why would I want to lie about the hours? Even if I put 2 hours into it, would it have changed peoples thoughts about the movie at all? I am sure that some people can do it faster/better than I can, but my job doesn't lie 100% in creating flash, I dont get paid often for flash, and I use a very crappy laptop to make any flash I've done.

I know it took me every bit of 14 hours to do everything, from start to finish. Now if you can do it quicker, lets leave it at that because I can't. If you look at stickballmovies.com and have seen the site before you KNOW it's taken me 5 months to do just ONE 15 minute movie!

It's a good animation man, but it IS a naming contest, therefor, I'll voice my opinion that one of the random prizes should be un-randomized and pointed in nitroducks direction, or just give him something else entirely (a classic s/f for his brother maybe?) just my $0.02

No offense man, it was good, but I don't think it's worth an RT pro, but I don't do flash, it might be harder than I thought, I'm just going by what people are saying. Good luck at winning the whole thing though man.