Tata 207 VS Mahindra Maxx

This is a discussion on Tata 207 VS Mahindra Maxx within Commercial Vehicles, part of the BHP India category; With Tata coming up with new pickups thought I should share this with team-bhp.
A recent survey conducted by M&M ...

With Tata coming up with new pickups thought I should share this with team-bhp.

A recent survey conducted by M&M with LCV drivers and following is what the findings are.The following survey was done in Maharashtra state.

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Majority of the drivers prefer The mahindra over the tata 207 for the following ,TATA engine is lasting only for 2 years,and after that requires lot of replacements ,compared to which the mahindra last's longer and requires less replacements.Mileage wise again the mahindra is the winner.Pickupof the mahindra is very superior compared to the 207.Drivers prefer driving the maxx pickup over the 207.

I dont have much more details since this report is supposed to be an internal report by M&M.What I can say is in Maharashtra the Mahindra MAxx Pickup seems to be doing quite well,and I find more of them than the 207's on the road, off late.Regarding the engine lasting only two years,I dont have any idea of that in kilometer terms nor how long lasting the mahindra engines are.

The Tata 207 has the same engine as the 407.

PS: Kindly note,I have just passed on the information as it is from the M&M report and have not taken account possibility of bias on the part of M&M.

Dunno anything else but the part of the report that says the engine last for just 2 years is hardly believeable. THe engine in 207 is the same as the LCV 407 and its known to last a lifetime (even more than that).
As for pick up again, the TATA engine is bigger, makes more power and has better torque output... no reason why it should be slower than Mahindra.
Besides i find 207 more civilized compared to Mahindra.
I think they are feeling the heat from TATA, and have resorted to these cheap tactics.

The 207 is more urban of the two. I may be wrong, but the bed of the Maxx seems slightly larger than the 207. Besides, the MAXX offers an optional low bed facility (something like the ACE), which makes it a boon for those loading heavy stuff onto it. Doesnt the MAXX come with OE Radial tyres compared to 207 which comes with tall cross-ply ones ?
And as I have noticed a few times, a 207 is prone to breaking into half (http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/street...into-half.html)
But the larger engine of the 207 with its 280Nm (isnt it?) of torque makes it a great hauler. BTW, I am surprised at the number of MAXXs being used as chicken transporters here in Pune.

And if the more urban siblings of these two are considered (the Bolero Camper and TL), which one would you prefer?

well Tata Tl has better looks, better dashboard than Mahindra Pick up and also refined engine. also Tata Tl has Image. you can convert Tata Tl into macho pick up by adding Alloys, Bull-Bar's, Fog laps....

If the survey is authentic, it may show actual perceptions but not facts. For e.g. the 407 engine has a warranty of 3,00,000 kms and there is no chance of a failure within 2 years. Its a true long-termer.

However, the Mahindras are more popular because Spare parts are much cheaper than Tatas. The Maxx is also far simpler to repair than the 207 and can take far more abuse than the Maxx.

well Tata Tl has better looks, better dashboard than Mahindra Pick up and also refined engine. also Tata Tl has Image. you can convert Tata Tl into macho pick up by adding Alloys, Bull-Bar's, Fog laps....

But the TL is also much more expensive than the Bolero Camper even. It costs too much, IMHO.

BTW, I dont think the either MAXx or the 207 comes with 4 wheel drive. If that would have happened, then it would be a true workhorse terrain muncher.

While discussing engine life, drivers always refer to kilometers, not to the number of years the engine lasts. In 2 years, a 207 may do 3 lac KMs or it may do only 30,000.

Also, drivers of CVs (as opposed to CV owners) give importance to things like comfort, ergonomics and looks and in all these parameters, the 207 wins hands down over the Mahindra.

Also the claim about 207's engine life does not appear to be true. There wouldn't be so many 407s plying all over the country if that were true. Remember, 407 (with the same engine as 207) has a GVW of over 5 tonnes whereas 207 has a GVW of little over 2 tonnes. So, in 207, with lesser load and strain, the engine should be lasting even longer.

As I see it, Mahindra pick up could score over the 207 on the following fronts:

Doesn't the 207 DI bharat stage II have the same engine and peripherals as the spacio gold. If so, there is no truth in these claims by Mahindra, they are Mahindra internal anyway, looks like someone wants to impress the internal management or is due for promotion.

The Spacio Gold has come a long way from the way the 407 engine started in the Spacio. The Spacio gold is much more refined and has better pulling power than the Bolero DI (according to users here), hence the same comparison should hold for the 207 DI vs Maxx.