Fighting ISIS; DHS Funding Battle; Vaccine Politics

WSJ Washington Bureau Chief Jerry Seib discusses the most important topics of the day with reporters Dion Nissenbaum, Laura Meckler, and Janet Adamy. Photo:AP

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... said I and another hard week an Islamic state with the video of the ... journey of ... literally apparently being burned alive ... the question they came out of that was what will the effect be on the international coalition will people be scared off high least ... closed out the week with the thought that the fact they actually be the opposite as partners on ... the Chartres audio unit in the dollar was in Washington when the video came out in his meeting with lawmakers and ... apparently he put in place without on forgiven ... and said you know basically ... we're gonna go we're going to kill these people were going to the now ... destroyed and the main image watch airstrikes that killed a couple of people ... but the Arab ... partners in this are only for their carrying out air strikes in Syria I've only done he strikes out ... more than two thousand ... and everybody says that this is not ... a war that's gonna be one with airstrikes and you gotta have people on the ground and we don't have that in Syria ... and were still building that ... in Iraq ... so he's got a long way to go before you any of this happened so even if Jordan steps and and does more airstrikes is gonna be a small ... impact ... and there's no indication that it's really can ... resume that much more probably in the Arab world ... we do there is a question about who provides the base on the grandest or any prospect of war era purchase patient making that happen as result of this I think it's it's certainly a question that people are gonna be asking the interesting thing about Jordan is that it wanted us to do more for now to talk about buffer zones in southern Syria ... and they've been quietly providing more ... support but ... I don't think your Tennessee anytime that you know Arab League co ... no boots on the ground going in there nobody wants to sit to get into this mess ... in this bizarre situation in which the PPP is increasingly that we want to defeat Islamic State in Iraq and Syria but not ... is not necessarily defeat the Syrian government's years because the screens more chaos that is really tricky equation ... all in one of the inner one of the complications for this'll ... all lot and spend that they're bad people in the U S ministrations the kind of thought quietly and pushed quietly this notion that ... the fighting in Syria kind of helps us because you've got ... you're on ... fighting there in that it's softening there and maybe all these people are fighting in Syria it's contained and that's good for us but it's created this chaos ... and now nobody knows how to deal with it comes to some people are thinking well maybe we're better off just having this on the list ... and and and Jordan feels like a very unstable place the middle of all that is you know ... um not online now in ... a pushback from the Islamic State you've got hundreds of thousands of refugees from Syria in Iraq fleeing this chaos you just both of ... us and very severe water crisis and this is a tough place to keep under control ... yet he's he's got a lot of pressures and certainly the refugees are a bit harder than it is that ... all kinds of Palestinian refugees from past wars ... they don't have the water they don't have the oil that other countries have ... so they need our help ... and that if the King Abdullah was here asking for more dough base that's why he was your first budget for a few radiant heat is getting out certainly ... but not so far the military health that he's asked for from us the US has ... rebuffed amounts of the efforts to create these offers analysts say sounds which is one of the things that the US military is not ... willing to take time to get some emo on the domestic front and rear this morning the dreaded Washington were shut down ... while but this is just a shutdown of the Department Homeland Security but the fight is about ... immigration and eighty six when a little bit and and ... it's about what the prospects of it will have to pop again ... shutdowns in the next few weeks be on the other ... was all goes back to prison Obama is executive actions on immigration which of course are ... wildly opposed by Republicans and where he worked at sunset in the face of ... who you know ... that saw action on immigration he asked us and to protect it ... a total of five million illegal immigrants living in the last hour or ... so ... so in very about this that they're essentially holding the funding for the Department Homeland Security hostage until the sisters all its aspects and well ... um ... there's just no ... no prospect for resolution right now so the Senate tried twice this week that a funding bill failed both times ... they predict that that that the housing credit all the nullification of Obama as an indication of the ... funding bill the department is only find it to the end of this month ... the Senate that brought that the law to Democrats that no we're not to consider this phone is he said twice are going to ... try again ... the ... problem that they have a visit to the problem then that Senate leaders over many many years and it's a word that says that he did not just the seat majority in the Senate does not mean he ran the Senate need sixty votes to get most things ... that they did Republicans have sex exceed those in frankly even if they did ... Obama has made it very quickly the beat of this bell so that leaves the question of how is the department going to be funded ... once we get past this and ... on and that we don't get past this and it's not clear because what's in it ... what Democrats are to be ending is essentially went public rebounding just straight up on the department and in the really isn't much to speak about the underlying finding an agency ... another little hairy deal talk said is that if the fighting were to expire ... eighty five percent of the department's functions would still go on because the essential government functions of ... border security would continue TSA would continue ... all of these things would continue in the immigration piece would continue because it's funded with ... is this are funded with regular general appropriations dollars ... so the symbolism within similar and basically others recover and get paid until ... the other doesn't it says ... the optics are still preventing it from worry about the Islamic State threat that time ... yes and the shutdown woman stated that they will that's what's happened is that is that I aam ... and and frankly the Republican leadership is not one to suspect on an ... honest it made very clear that it will not shut down the departments of the places where celebrities and the Republicans is really didn't run a Republican I think that what you need is that they promise not to shut it down ... the votes to stop the immigration policy I think most people think weighed this week that the end of the day is that the immigration of because I'm in the army get funded by how we get from here to there ... this is seen Conard Musa scuba weeks ago we had this new Congress and the latter were to get Eli were togetherness Supreme or not this is ... essentially becoming a symbolic thing I wonder which party do you think has more to lose the last ... Republicans and when these frankly in the sense that ... it's become very clear that ... Democrats are not going to go along with nullifying this policy so they're especially when Republicans will probably try to say that oh this is the Democrat shutting down the department I don't think it's going to be read that way I think it's can be read as ... than trying to essentially ... aam get their way by using this funding Bell and so I think there's a lot of risk in the twenty first of ... its McConnell literally the day after the elections that there will be no government shutdown things didn't go very well for them when they tried to shut it down in the health care a lot of people investments at this and says well people get all the while about the president acting this ... to change immigration policy that led to reach but on the substance of what he did ... the answer to support the idea that women's event deportations and pray that they don't have the people and he has even created after falling down as the servant Efraim Ester and that the house I think also the little one to offer themselves they went ... the UN just said hello eyeing the stuff that these people maybe a little bit and for what he did note that retweet acid not I did in ... two thousand on action to protect young people were brought to the US is children the so-called tree restore ... very into helping them is a very politically popular thing in that bill would also ... is the essence to make all the people eligible for deportation ... so agendas and costly to the end of this week that ended in a ... vaccination ... you know this into their stores to say we could see that coming this is not ... I guess he'd be having a giant ... vaccination today but it starts with nice ... is that there's a measles outbreak that I've Disney theme park in California ... and another hundred people and sickened by it I'm very serious disease and died from measles ... and Chris Christie when units were in a pharmaceutical ... factory in in the UK was asked about vaccines ... of couple days ago and in his response was unique I threaded the needle T-shirts and found that the for ... parents may not want to vaccinate certainly more so than any Democrat would sound ... and then after that marks him out ... Rand Paul Kentucky came out and took a quite a bit further and suggests he knew he was aware of instances where ... children have been harmed after vaccines and ... suddenly you have the Republican Party looking as if it was ... a bit as it was an anti Vaccino very quickly the next day ... I'm number of top Republicans made clear that the sport vaccines printed every Republican potential presidential candidate was asked what he just yet and I see the danger in not something ... you think you would be good people being forced to stand on but it was it was ... illustrated release and has struck an era but the public ... um you know today ... I'm a disease like measles had been since a white dot U S and the fact that this is coming back ... as result of some pockets country not vaccinating ... their children as it is worrisome to public health officials LOS and is creating a word for parents to do about it ... so ... what is that they did this this this whole vaccinations Garrett was of recently chase to read an article in Journal article very small case the purported to show a bit too hot to send a vaccine made ... which has since been completely has ... been discredited is right and ... it could lead to on by the journal that published it has been so much scientific evidence showing that there is no need to see these things ... and it felt like that that's for the SNX aviation movement was on the wane what I do think that it's coming ... and he ... now I think some people claim you know these days a lot of moms and times parent spend time chatrooms ... people still talk about these things I think that there are we still don't understand what is responsible entirely for the increase in off the boxes and cases and another ... in a rare diseases that come up ... onto any parent knows you go to the day your child checkups and to think of peace and there's ... two or three vaccinations or the other child ... as with the kids and I think even though ... this the sciences really did want this idea that it's hard to tear down the field once it starts with the continues to circle a pockets of the internet it's apparent all right thank you ... units in its core issue right this is Mike and I want to decide what happens to my child in our Penta cover and that's kind of what Republicans ... for the departed and what that Christie issued situation because you you ... I remember ... several months ago when the ball outbreak is happening that was the nurse who went through the airport in New Jersey ... he called for mandatory quarantine of her and he really heavily criticized for she did not end in a bowl of ... you know I think that the general thinking was that she came out looking good and he did not come out looking so good for you now looking like ... he was stepping on her rights you have to wonder was keeping some of that not ... that he won and say you know ... the way individual rights will that war with these Russia or possibly ... he was really thinking through but it patients see ... my knee and it really clear view it as a final note here that the public policy and this is change at all as result of this country's use because as you are the ones they was considering a law that would loosen up ... it's the parents vaccinate their children Mississippi in a live action went down so ... that probably Guinea will just end up exactly where we were before the saucer ... and I think there is um and Number House and Senate leaders after it's all about national on the national teams that will be ... going a lot further than it wants to ... you know John Beinner said no we don't ... so I don't think people are expecting to see its ... policy that ... is certainly hear people talking about it so ... vaccinations and that we cannot wait comeback will probably be targeted integration and Islamic State in other venues in Washington hope you'll join us on the capital Journal round table be sunny and in the conversation Twitter at hashtag ... doubly SJ lie on Jerry side ...