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Thursday, April 26, 2012

And Now, From The Florida Dept. of Motor Vehicles Department of State Security ... a real and true story by gimleteye

After a number of automatic, online renewals of my drivers license, The Florida Department of Motor Vehicles sent me a notice, requiring me in person to present three categories of proof of identity to renew my license. Mine is set to expire in one month. I though this was a little excessive, but hey: you can't be too careful these days. So I signed up online for an appointment-- a few clicks. So far, so good. I collected various proof of identity (a passport, bank statements, tax bills, health insurance card). That took half an hour or so. I appeared at the duly appointed time and day having braved nearly an hour of traffic.

At the door, the Florida Department of Motor Vehicles refused to accept documentation I provided to renew my license because I did not have my social security card. A passport, bank statements, health care card, tax bills were insufficient proof of identity according to the three categories, nor living in the same house for twenty five years. The DMV sent me to the Social Security Administration for a replacement of my social security card so I could prove identity to renew my drivers license. That took an additional hour of driving and an hour in the wait room.

15 comments:

I didn't believe you when you told me this story...as you said you had your passport. I went to the motor vehicle website and, by gosh, you didn't get inaccurate information:

"Beginning January 1, 2010, Florida has new documentation requirements for residents renewing or obtaining a new driver license or identification card. For office visits, you must bring original documents that prove your identity, social security number and residential address."

I think this ORIGINAL Social Security requirement is anti immigration/voter suppression rolled into one.

If you don't have a social security number here is what you need:

If you do not have a Social Security number

If you do not have a social security number, you must bring a letter from the Social Security Administration indicating that you were never issued one. In addition, you will need to present at least one proof of ID from the following list:

• A driver license from the District of Columbia, U.S. Territories, or one of our 50 states. • School record stating date of birth, which must contain the registrar’s signature. • Transcript of the birth record filed with a public officer charged with the duty of recording certificates. • Baptism certificate, which shows date of birth and the place of baptism. • Family Bible record or birth announcement in a baby book • An insurance policy on the customer’s life which has been in force for at least two years and has the month, day and year of birth. • United States military or military dependent identification card. • An identification card from the District of Columbia, U.S. Territories, or one of our 50 states. • Florida license record or identification card record. • Selective Service Registration (Draft Card). • Florida Vehicle Registration certificate (HSMV 83399, owner’s copy) obtained from the tax collector’s office where the customer’s vehicle was registered, Florida, or out-of-state registration certificate, if name and date of birth are shown. • Receipt copy of your last Florida driver license issuance. Immigration form I-571. • Federal form DD-214 (military record). Marriage certificate. • Court order, which includes legal name. • A Florida voter registration card, which was issued at least 3 months previously. • Parent consent form of minor, signed by the parent or legal guardian •Government issued out-of-country passport, driver license, or identification card • Concealed Weapons Permit

SB 220 was introduced this past session to correct this mess. Obviously the Driver's License folks have everyone's picture and signature on file, so they shouldn't require a friggin DNA test to renew you.

SB 200 died in the Republican-dominated Senate Transportation Committee in March. They were too busy making NASCAR "the official sport of Florida."

Why am I feeling so old, and I haven't even hit 50 yet! Remember when we were the go to place for Tennis, Swimming & Diving? And, of course the Natural Parks/resourses, before they were paved over or tainted?

Just went to the DMV website.It does NOT say you have to have the original social security card.It says you have to be able to prove you have a social security number.You need 3 things:1. ID: passport works for this2. Proof of SS #.You can prove this by the card, a W-2, a paycheck stub, SSA-1099 or a 1099 form. You don't need the original card.3. Proof of residential address. That's where your bank statements and tax bills come in. If none of those things you brought had your SS # on it, then you fail under #2.

"Beginning January 1, 2010, Florida has new documentation requirements for residents renewing or obtaining a new driver license or identification card.( Note this part )For office visits, you must bring ORIGINAL documents that prove your identity, social security number and residential address."

Continue on the DMV website and it gives you the list of original documents that can prove your social security number:

"Proof of Social Security Number

Gather one original of the following documents that show your complete name and social security number:

-Social Security cardmust be an original in your current full name-W-2 form (not handwritten)-Pay check/stub-SSA-1099-Any 1099 (not handwritten)-None - see note below I don't have a Social Security Number "

There are several choices for someone who doesn't have the actual card itself.

With regard to the reason for this being anti-immigration, I agree you're spot on. But I don't see what happened in this case being anything more about the documents that gimleteye brought or didn't bring to the appt to show proof of ss #.

Quotes hall of fame - worth another look:

Jonathon Dunlop of Australia about the Miami Airport:"This is the most disorganized shambles of an airport that exists on this earth.''April 01, 2007 Eye on Miami Comment on Post__________________________________On "Colony Collapse Disorder":Anonymous said...I say lets wait till the last tree is going to be cut down, the last bit of oil used, the last lowland coastal areas flooded before we make any rash decisions that might effect the economy.April 21, 2007 Eye on Miami Comment_________________________________On Bee “Colony Collapse Disorder” being blamed on cell phones:Anonymous said...Hmmm. What are bees doing with cell phones, anyhow?April 20, 2007 Eye on Miami Comment_________________________________On South Florida Water Supply:Ron Littlepage said...Unfortunately, we know who would win when it comes to allowing development to run amok and it's not the wildlife.April 20, 2007 Eye on Miami Comment Post_________________________________Lesley Blackner said:In Florida, the sad reality is that government exists to serve the development machine, not the citizenry. That's why it's proper to say that in Florida we have government of the developer, by the developer and for the developer.April 22, 2007 Eye on Miami Post_________________________________On City of Miami and Miami Dade County giving $1,000,000 each to Jorge Perez’s Related Group (The Group's 2005 revenues were $3.25 billion.):"It makes as much sense as me donating half my paycheck to Warren Buffett.”May 6, 2007 Miami Herald Columnist Ana Menendez_________________________________On the FCAT Test:"'Florida is a serial mis-user of test scores.''Bob Schaeffer, director for Massachusetts-based FairTest.May 25, 2007 Miami Herald_________________________________Clifford Schulman (Greenberg Traurig Lobbyist):"This is the first time in 33 years that any one has accused me of fraud." June 28, 2007 Miami HeraldI say: hmm.__________________________________Max Rameau, Homeless Activist:"I respect Ron Book for his work with the Homeless Trust, but the Liberty City community and others have given broad support to this idea. I don't know that a big-time millionaire lobbyist can tell us what is best for Liberty City and the black community.'' July 28, 2007 Miami Herald__________________________________"After years of mismanagement under a board of political appointees and neighborhood activists, Miami-Dade County administrators have proposed a new way to run the troubled empowerment zone program. The plan: Bring in new political appointees and neighborhood activists."November 6, 2007 Miami Herald: Reporter Scott Hiaasen______________________________________"Saying "Greater Everglades" and "Northern Everglades" is not saying Everglades -- other places are deserving of being protected too, but there is only one Everglades. The main thing is to keep the 'Main Thing' the main thing -- which, lately, has not been the main thing." Bob Mooney - on Listserve "Everglades Commons"________________________________________"Does anyone in their right mind believe that Florida could conduct postal balloting without a major screw-up or scandal? Heavens, no! The whole country is keenly aware that our state is a sump hole of incompetence and corruption."Carl Hiaasen - March 16, 2008 Miami Herald_______________________________________On the Charter Review: "Commissioners want us to vote on their own pet changes, ideas the review team explicitly rejected. And, they're throwing their blatantly self-serving ballot questions at us at the same time. What a slap in the face to the charter review team — and to all of us!" Michael Lewis of Miami Today - April 10, 2008______________________________________On the Miami Dade County Commission:''Unfortunately, this is a commission that would build a cyanide factory next to a playground if you hired the right 12 lobbyists,'' Miami Lakes Councilman Michael Pizzi - May 14, 2008______________________________________"The days where we’re just building sprawl forever, those days are over. I think that Republicans, Democrats, everybody recognizes that that’s not a smart way to build communities." President Barack Obama in Fort Meyers - February 10, 2009______________________________________"So."Dick Cheney's response when told that two thirds of Americans did not support the war in Iraq. - Time Magazine 2008______________________________________"It seems like a bad idea can always find a home in the Florida Legislature." - Howard Simon - Executive Director of Florida ACLU - March 24, 2010

______________________________________Complete this sentence: South Florida really needs a..."Regional plan for controlled growth (before it becomes a concrete jungle similar to Houston), and a completely new set of elected officials that make decisions based on what's good for the future of South Florida instead of what's good for their wallets. - Jack McCabe, Real Estate expert who predicted the housing boom's end. - August 29, 2011 Miami Herald