yea i was gonna go test drive them all. But since its a test drive you won't find faults and such from such a short ride. i was wondering if any of you had those cars and or heard of existing problems.

And no im not the guy who gets suckered into deals. Im trying my best to budget things from alot of aspects. decrepiation value, fuel,insurance,maintainance fees, mod/upgradgability.

Oh as for sound systems what would you recommend also?

oh yea i forgot about subaru. i went through like 14 different car sites to check out cars. for about about subaru

the wrx sti is my dream car to get. but i don't want to eat noodles and go to the dfac everyday

Both Hondas and Subarus in general hold their value quite well, ESPECIALLY SUBARUS. I've still seen Subaru Impreza 2.5RS's over $10,000 used!

When I said WRX, I meant the WRX, not the STI. If you wanna push it a bit and get some better straight-line performance with Subaru's AWD grip, the WRX hatch should fit.

But THE BEST choice for you is the Honda Fit. It's not boring to drive (just go look at Car and Driver's reviews), it swallows unbelievable amounts of cargo, and it sips gas as you'd expect. According to Car and Driver, it can outcorner both a Ferrari F430 and a Corvette Z06!!! But really, the Fit is the most logical choice.....

fixing wise, Honda fits are easy to fix, also barely brakes down or has any Major problems, other than it being so damn ugly without the sport kit and sometimes after 120,000km its Tranny might screw around. Just get some new Rims and tires(can't trust the factory made ones.). I am not a Subaru fan due to its known to have a Fault in some electrical crap in the transmission.

What I recommend, buy yourself a nice FIT. If you don't have the money to get your car fixed at dealerships, thats the way to go. Get some rims and tires and be on your merry way.

yea i was gonna go test drive them all. But since its a test drive you won't find faults and such from such a short ride. i was wondering if any of you had those cars and or heard of existing problems.

And no im not the guy who gets suckered into deals. Im trying my best to budget things from alot of aspects. decrepiation value, fuel,insurance,maintainance fees, mod/upgradgability.

Oh as for sound systems what would you recommend also?

oh yea i forgot about subaru. i went through like 14 different car sites to check out cars. for about about subaru

the wrx sti is my dream car to get. but i don't want to eat noodles and go to the dfac everyday

Both Hondas and Subarus in general hold their value quite well, ESPECIALLY SUBARUS. I've still seen Subaru Impreza 2.5RS's over $10,000 used!

When I said WRX, I meant the WRX, not the STI. If you wanna push it a bit and get some better straight-line performance with Subaru's AWD grip, the WRX hatch should fit.

But THE BEST choice for you is the Honda Fit. It's not boring to drive (just go look at Car and Driver's reviews), it swallows unbelievable amounts of cargo, and it sips gas as you'd expect. According to Car and Driver, it can outcorner both a Ferrari F430 and a Corvette Z06!!! But really, the Fit is the most logical choice.....

No kidding Subies hold their value. Couple years ago, I was looking at a 98 2.5RS with 180k miles and faded paint you couldn't believe for $8,000.

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/tsb/tsbsearch.cfm
Here's Technical Service Bulletins. Any common problem between cars usually gets a bulletin. You can get the general gist of what problems you may face. If it's a huge problem, like 98-02 Accord V6 transmissions TSB, it may not happen as I've never heard of a V6 tranny problem yet.

yea i was gonna go test drive them all. But since its a test drive you won't find faults and such from such a short ride. i was wondering if any of you had those cars and or heard of existing problems.

And no im not the guy who gets suckered into deals. Im trying my best to budget things from alot of aspects. decrepiation value, fuel,insurance,maintainance fees, mod/upgradgability.

Oh as for sound systems what would you recommend also?

oh yea i forgot about subaru. i went through like 14 different car sites to check out cars. for about about subaru

the wrx sti is my dream car to get. but i don't want to eat noodles and go to the dfac everyday

I recommend the Subaru WRX Wagon.

Reason 1: Good mpg. Even if a car like the prius or something has high mpg rating, that mpg suffers drastically if you carry alot of equipment or you're going up steep grades because you need to floor teh gas pedal to keep your speed constant (nevermind, even not-so-steep ones will hurt it). So really, a balance of mild horsepower with decent mpg is usually the best recipe.

Reason 2: Insurance. Sportscars will cost you the most, then others follow like suvs and trucks. smaller cars that aren't known to be sporty are usually the best, and that especially includes wagons. Also, insurance plans vary, but mainly if you're over 25 and have a good driving record, you won't be paying much. You may also want to contact your current insurance provider (if you own a home) and talk to them about multiple-plan discounts. If you're a student in college with good grades, this definitely helps anywhere from 5 to 20% savings. type of car, assumed mileage you'll be driving it, etc., all factor in to the costs.

Reason 3: Maintenance. Subarus are very reliable and are always in top marks if you look at Consumer Reports test standards.
ConsRep isn't funded by anyone so they do independent tests on everything from cars to refrigerators to cell phones. Plus keep in mind the Impreza line, particularly the WRX and STi, are Subaru's flagship vehicles. Either of those and the Legacy GT would be superb and you'll rarely if ever get a lemon unless someone else has tinkered with it without you knowing.

Reason 4: Modability. Wagons also have several upgrades that can be added, and if you look into the Legacy GT series, they're only about 50hp shy of being the same hp as an STi, but all you need to do is transplant ECU's and BAM! you have the same hp.
regular WRX's are modified left and right, and the only difference between the wrx sedan and wagon is body style. You could always swap an STi motor into your car for real cheap, and the Board of Automotive Repair and Dept of Transportation will NOT cite you on it because you are in fact upgrading an existing trim-line engine into the car, so you won't have problems with smog either. So really, you have countless options.

Reason 5: Room. Tons of space, and the wagon only weighs about 80lbs. heavier than the sedan. totally worth it.

For sound systems, it depends on what you're going for.

There's two categories i consider sound systems with: SPL and SQL

SPL = hard-hitting bass.

SQL = quality of sound overall.

Setups vary, but i'll just tell you straight up right now if you want something extremely badass for a low price, it's not gonna happen.

www.crutchfield.com is a good starting point for referencing sound system prices so you can tell if a shop is trying to rip you off or not. (keep the hell away from places like bestbuy and circuit city, because they can't get you any high end stuff and the installation techs are usually n00bs. otherwise, they'd be working at better shops lol.)

Also, it's not just about the company or brands or power output. it also depends on the enclosure.

Certain subs and setups need a specific cubic inch space as well as overall enclosure designs to get the optimum performance out of it. otherwise even the best setup will sound like shit.

if you just want near-stock styling so everything fits fine, but want better sound, there's BOSE. they're in a lot of cars and are pretty hard to beat. and Infinity. they're good too. Both are being used stock in alot of higher-end cars.

My personal setup i'm working on right now (box is being fabricated) is a set of Memphis M3 subs, memphis speakers for the fronts, Memphis D-class Belle amp to connect to the subs, and an AB amp for the reg. speakers. enclosure is custom and everything is Dynamatted.

...let's just say i had to practically sell a kidney to get this underway.

yea i was gonna go test drive them all. But since its a test drive you won't find faults and such from such a short ride. i was wondering if any of you had those cars and or heard of existing problems.

And no im not the guy who gets suckered into deals. Im trying my best to budget things from alot of aspects. decrepiation value, fuel,insurance,maintainance fees, mod/upgradgability.

Oh as for sound systems what would you recommend also?

oh yea i forgot about subaru. i went through like 14 different car sites to check out cars. for about about subaru

the wrx sti is my dream car to get. but i don't want to eat noodles and go to the dfac everyday

Both Hondas and Subarus in general hold their value quite well, ESPECIALLY SUBARUS. I've still seen Subaru Impreza 2.5RS's over $10,000 used!

When I said WRX, I meant the WRX, not the STI. If you wanna push it a bit and get some better straight-line performance with Subaru's AWD grip, the WRX hatch should fit.

But THE BEST choice for you is the Honda Fit. It's not boring to drive (just go look at Car and Driver's reviews), it swallows unbelievable amounts of cargo, and it sips gas as you'd expect. According to Car and Driver, it can outcorner both a Ferrari F430 and a Corvette Z06!!! But really, the Fit is the most logical choice.....

and to add to modability, various companies now do mass-production of the motor mount conversions for K20 swaps.

so in the event someone doesn't want to have a gas-sipping car that ricer hondas gauge their 'pimp-ness' with trying to street race them, there's always a surprise K20.

I'd also have to go with the Honda Fit. I'd recommend a black Honda Fit Sport with the HFP (Honda Factory Performance) rims. By the way, there's also a new 09 Honda Fit coming out in Fall which I think it looks ugly. It looks just like a Toyota Prius.

I'd also have to go with the Honda Fit. I'd recommend a black Honda Fit Sport with the HFP (Honda Factory Performance) rims. By the way, there's also a new 09 Honda Fit coming out in Fall which I think it looks ugly. It looks just like a Toyota Prius.

The 09 fit's interior is several steps up though, which is one thing i like. and as for looking like a prius, maybe the front (esp. the hood) but if you look at the new japanese magazines that feature the tuning aspects of the new fits, you can already find a few companies putting out aggressive kits and parts that really make it stand out even more.

I'd also have to go with the Honda Fit. I'd recommend a black Honda Fit Sport with the HFP (Honda Factory Performance) rims. By the way, there's also a new 09 Honda Fit coming out in Fall which I think it looks ugly. It looks just like a Toyota Prius.

The 09 fit's interior is several steps up though, which is one thing i like. and as for looking like a prius, maybe the front (esp. the hood) but if you look at the new japanese magazines that feature the tuning aspects of the new fits, you can already find a few companies putting out aggressive kits and parts that really make it stand out even more.

I guess I could agree with that. The one thing I dislike about the new Fit is the steering wheel. It looks exactly like the new Civic steering wheels. Otherwise the interior is nicely done

I'd also have to go with the Honda Fit. I'd recommend a black Honda Fit Sport with the HFP (Honda Factory Performance) rims. By the way, there's also a new 09 Honda Fit coming out in Fall which I think it looks ugly. It looks just like a Toyota Prius.

The 09 fit's interior is several steps up though, which is one thing i like. and as for looking like a prius, maybe the front (esp. the hood) but if you look at the new japanese magazines that feature the tuning aspects of the new fits, you can already find a few companies putting out aggressive kits and parts that really make it stand out even more.

I guess I could agree with that. The one thing I dislike about the new Fit is the steering wheel. It looks exactly like the new Civic steering wheels. Otherwise the interior is nicely done

My friend hated the steering wheel on his 06 Civic, so he switched it out for a Nardi. looks a lot better.

again, anything you dislike about the car can more than likely be modified tastefully esp. if it's a japanese vehicle.

Thanks for the tip guys. I just needed some feed back since i looked at alot of places. But sometimes the best feedback is from the drivers themselves.

Anyways yea i won't be able to test drive any of the cars till i get back stateside which is in july. Oh man can't wait to try out all these spiffy new cars.

The way i learned about tuning aftermarket vehicles was to go to car shows like Hot Import Nights (especially in California) and to wait til the awards ceremonies and to see which car crews and vehicles came out with top awards. Just because there are expensive parts on a car doesn't mean they're worth the time and effort. Look at cars that are very successful (esp front covers in magazines) and try to emulate it.

Mini&smart you cant drive fast and not much people mod those 2 cars.
Toyota Prius if you're getting the 08 u cant do much for inside because its hybrid right? i dont know..
and GTI i think that car is okay... my sister's bf drives that..he didnt modded it..
yea just test drive any car u named up there.. and see which one you like the best.. i would choose GTI from the 4 u listed..
if you want hatchback.. you can get Honda Fit.some people have that car and modded it too and it looks nice..
yea ^^ sorry i dont know much about cars -- ;;