New Moderator: Welcome IMPress Polly. She will do a great job as a moderator at tPF!

ADMIN

04-26-2014, 06:30 PM

Welcome Polly! We appreciate you agreeing to take on this added responsibility for the betterment of tPF.

Dr. Who

04-26-2014, 06:31 PM

We look forward to having her in the squad. Welcome Polly!

Kalkin

04-26-2014, 06:39 PM

So it begins. ;)

The Xl

04-26-2014, 06:55 PM

Nice choice.

I don't always(Usually, lol) agree with her, but she seems up for any sort of open discussion, and certainly puts thought and time into her posts.

Captain Obvious

04-26-2014, 07:11 PM

You'll do great, Polly!

IMPress Polly

04-26-2014, 07:56 PM

Thanks so much everyone. I appreciate the warm welcome. :smiley:

GrassrootsConservative

04-26-2014, 11:11 PM

Ugh. All I can say.

Dr. Who

04-26-2014, 11:17 PM

Ugh. All I can say.

Moderation has nothing to do with politics, it has to do with the ability to be dispassionate and apply the same rules to all members regardless of personal feelings. Polly has demonstrable skills in that respect.

Matty

04-26-2014, 11:24 PM

Ugh. All I can say.

I think you should give her a chance. I was said the same on a different board and the moderator I said ugh to turned out to be the best one on the board!

GrassrootsConservative

04-26-2014, 11:33 PM

Moderation has nothing to do with politics, it has to do with the ability to be dispassionate and apply the same rules to all members regardless of personal feelings. Polly has demonstrable skills in that respect.

How come all the mods are Progressives? With the exception of Peter, that is, all of you are to the left.

It really does appear pretty biased, even if it's unintentional.

I think you should give her a chance. I was said the same on a different board and the moderator I said ugh to turned out to be the best one on the board!

Yeah I gave her a chance awhile back, admittedly as a common poster, not a mod, but she wouldn't engage me in a discussion or anything on topics like the left's reversal of MLKjr's ideas of "content of character over color of skin" when they do things like Affirmative Action (Or "positive" discrimination) and the Obama administration hiring people based on gender or skin color.

She's just really flaky and I don't think making a flake a mod looks good on our forum.

If you're going to get someone from that side of the spectrum (again) why not have it be someone like @Chloe (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=565) who isn't a flake and is actually (and it's sad how rare this is) a Progressive with respect and common decency. She even debates her points really well and seems very consistent.

Kabuki Joe

04-26-2014, 11:39 PM

Nice choice.

I don't always(Usually, lol) agree with her, but she seems up for any sort of open discussion, and certainly puts thought and time into her posts.

...well I'm sold!...

Bob

04-27-2014, 12:02 AM

Moderation has nothing to do with politics, it has to do with the ability to be dispassionate and apply the same rules to all members regardless of personal feelings. Polly has demonstrable skills in that respect.

What courses have any of the moderators taken so they do understand what their actual role is to be?

I have never met the human whose heart is not biased. It is easy to fire off on a poster over what only that particular moderator would not like.

I have seen it happen.

nic34

04-27-2014, 12:38 AM

Good luck Polly, looks like you'll need it....:wink:

Peter1469

04-27-2014, 07:15 AM

I am so anti-progressive that I can balance things out. You will be safe.

How come all the mods are Progressives? With the exception of Peter, that is, all of you are to the left.

It really does appear pretty biased, even if it's unintentional.

Yeah I gave her a chance awhile back, admittedly as a common poster, not a mod, but she wouldn't engage me in a discussion or anything on topics like the left's reversal of MLKjr's ideas of "content of character over color of skin" when they do things like Affirmative Action (Or "positive" discrimination) and the Obama administration hiring people based on gender or skin color.

She's just really flaky and I don't think making a flake a mod looks good on our forum.

If you're going to get someone from that side of the spectrum (again) why not have it be someone like @Chloe (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=565) who isn't a flake and is actually (and it's sad how rare this is) a Progressive with respect and common decency. She even debates her points really well and seems very consistent.

IMPress Polly

04-27-2014, 07:36 AM

Just to briefly answer those who think there's some kind of left wing conspiracy going on here, I was invited to this message board by a rightist in the first place and basically pressured into accepting mod status by Peter (another rightist), who can verify the latter point. I'm sorry to see that some don't feel I'm qualified. I'm more than willing to step down at any time, including right now.

Mister D

04-27-2014, 07:44 AM

Oh stop, people. There is no bias on this board. never has been.

Peter1469

04-27-2014, 07:46 AM

Just to briefly answer those who think there's some kind of left wing conspiracy going on here, I was invited to this message board by a rightist in the first place and basically pressured into accepting mod status by Peter (another rightist), who can verify the latter point. I'm sorry to see that some don't feel I'm qualified. I'm more than willing to step down at any time, including right now.

Don't bother Polly. Just pass them the KY. :ky::ky:

Captain Obvious

04-27-2014, 07:54 AM

Just to briefly answer those who think there's some kind of left wing conspiracy going on here, I was invited to this message board by a rightist in the first place and basically pressured into accepting mod status by Peter (another rightist), who can verify the latter point. I'm sorry to see that some don't feel I'm qualified. I'm more than willing to step down at any time, including right now.

Every time a mod gets appointed someone whines, it's the nature of the beast.

Ask any mod.

junie

04-27-2014, 07:58 AM

Just to briefly answer those who think there's some kind of left wing conspiracy going on here, I was invited to this message board by a rightist in the first place and basically pressured into accepting mod status by Peter (another rightist), who can verify the latter point. I'm sorry to see that some don't feel I'm qualified. I'm more than willing to step down at any time, including right now.

you'll do fine polly, don't worry about the idiots...

just be yourself and please don't buy into any of the anti junie and ravi propaganda! :grin:

IMPress Polly

04-27-2014, 08:15 AM

Awesome, I'm a mod! Now to use my powers recklessly and...no wait, this is a public post, isn't it? :wink::wink:

Peter wrote:
Don't bother Polly. Just pass them the KY. :ky::ky:

Blah blah blah, when do I get my graft? :tongue:

junie wrote:
you'll do fine polly, don't worry about the idiots...

just be yourself and please don't buy into any of the anti junie and ravi propaganda! :grin:

I will do my very best to act minimally and objectively. Seriously. :smiley:

Chloe

04-27-2014, 08:24 AM

congratulations IMPress Polly! I'm happy for you and i'm sure you'll do well.

Mainecoons

04-27-2014, 08:57 AM

Awesome, I'm a mod! Now to use my powers recklessly and...no wait, this is a public post, isn't it? :wink::wink:

Blah blah blah, when do I get my graft? :tongue:

I will do my very best to act minimally and objectively. Seriously. :smiley:

If you don't, we'll have to cut your pay!

Chris

04-27-2014, 09:18 AM

Good choice! Good luck, it's a thankless job.

Akula

04-27-2014, 10:51 AM

Moderation has nothing to do with politics, it has to do with the ability to be dispassionate and apply the same rules to all members regardless of personal feelings.
Apparently, that's what keeps getting the old ones kicked out. They use their "position" as a way to settle old grudges. ..but we'll see with this one.

Polly has demonstrable skills in that respect.

She does avoid the silly cartoons and empty, juvenile cursing that many in here use as a substitute for intelligent discussion.

Dr. Who

04-27-2014, 10:58 AM

Apparently, that's what keeps getting the old ones kicked out. They use their "position" as a way to settle old grudges. ..but we'll see with this one.

She does avoid the silly cartoons and empty, juvenile cursing that many in here use as a substitute for intelligent discussion.

FYI - there have been no mods who have been kicked out. Those who have left have done so for their own personal reasons.

Akula

04-27-2014, 11:03 AM

FYI - there have been no mods who have been kicked out. Those who have left have done so for their own personal reasons.

Sure...whatever you say. I'm not going to play word games about WHY they were banned/fired/replaced.

Akula

04-27-2014, 11:09 AM

Oh stop, people. There is no bias on this board. never has been.

/sarcasm

Captain Obvious

04-27-2014, 12:02 PM

Who's not a mod anymore?

Chloe

04-27-2014, 12:09 PM

How come all the mods are Progressives? With the exception of Peter, that is, all of you are to the left.

It really does appear pretty biased, even if it's unintentional.

Yeah I gave her a chance awhile back, admittedly as a common poster, not a mod, but she wouldn't engage me in a discussion or anything on topics like the left's reversal of MLKjr's ideas of "content of character over color of skin" when they do things like Affirmative Action (Or "positive" discrimination) and the Obama administration hiring people based on gender or skin color.

She's just really flaky and I don't think making a flake a mod looks good on our forum.

If you're going to get someone from that side of the spectrum (again) why not have it be someone like @Chloe (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=565) who isn't a flake and is actually (and it's sad how rare this is) a Progressive with respect and common decency. She even debates her points really well and seems very consistent.

Thanks, but Polly is nice, respectful, decent, never gets personal with people, and will do a good job as a moderator too in my opinion. Try to give her a chance please.

Bob

04-27-2014, 12:18 PM

Good luck Polly, looks like you'll need it....:wink:

Some us fret it is not her, but WE that need the good luck.

I prefer those who do the rulings, have training. Peter for instance has law training.

Is the power of the Moderator unlimited? Who provides checks and balances?

Captain Obvious

04-27-2014, 12:21 PM

Good fucking grief...

Chris

04-27-2014, 12:21 PM

Some us fret it is not her, but WE that need the good luck.

I prefer those who do the rulings, have training. Peter for instance has law training.

Is the power of the Moderator unlimited? Who provides checks and balances?

Back when I was a mod any action beyond a warning required mod team consensus as admin demanded. I don't think that has changed.

Captain Obvious

04-27-2014, 12:23 PM

That was/is a mod team policy.

ADMIN is hands off for the most part.

Akula

04-27-2014, 12:25 PM

Good fucking grief...

Typical.

Well thought out and eloquently presented by a master linguist. :rollseyes:

Chris

04-27-2014, 12:26 PM

That was/is a mod team policy.

ADMIN is hands off for the most part.

No, that has been admin's one and only requirement ever since he created the moderation role. Maybe you're thinking of the early days when VIPs were mods, but that didn't work out.

Captain Obvious

04-27-2014, 12:27 PM

No, I'm not.

Akula

04-27-2014, 12:28 PM

Why wouldn't voting for candidates work?

...never mind..couldn't stack the deck if people were allowed to choose..I get it.

Dr. Who

04-27-2014, 12:28 PM

Back when I was a mod any action beyond a warning required mod team consensus as admin demanded. I don't think that has changed.
It hasn't changed. We still confer on anything beyond a warning. We even confer on warnings if other mods are present. On very rare occasions when a Mod is alone and a situation cannot wait, unilateral action may be required, but that almost never happens.

Captain Obvious

04-27-2014, 12:29 PM

When I was a mod ADMIN pretty much let us run the show. If that changed it was after me.

Chris

04-27-2014, 12:30 PM

When I was a mod ADMIN pretty much let us run the show. If that changed it was after me.

Right, but by consensus. He would never decide on any issue, always said, work it out amongst you.

Akula

04-27-2014, 12:30 PM

When I was a mod ADMIN pretty much let us run the show.
That's part of the problem. Unilateral control....Didn't work out very well, did it?

Chris

04-27-2014, 12:31 PM

It hasn't changed. We still confer on anything beyond a warning. We even confer on warnings if other mods are present. On very rare occasions when a Mod is alone and a situation cannot wait, unilateral action may be required, but that almost never happens.

Then there should be absolutely no concern about any particular mod. Political, personal, doesn't matter.

Captain Obvious

04-27-2014, 12:35 PM

That's part of the problem. Unilateral control....Didn't work out very well, did it?

You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, jackass.

Bob

04-27-2014, 12:37 PM

http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by IMPress Polly http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=590976#post590976)
Just to briefly answer those who think there's some kind of left wing conspiracy going on here, I was invited to this message board by a rightist in the first place and basically pressured into accepting mod status by Peter (another rightist), who can verify the latter point. I'm sorry to see that some don't feel I'm qualified. I'm more than willing to step down at any time, including right now.

Don't bother Polly. Just pass them the KY. :ky::ky:

I am not saying Polly is the problem.

FTR, I get zero flack from this forum. I appreciate this a lot. Some forums are so biased, that one can get banned for nothing more than this.

Example

A Left winger was debating me on my beliefs.

I told the person that my point is easy to understand. The ruling by the USSC on that particular issue lined up with my belief.

I felt harassed by the same person then demanding I fully explain it. I replied, check up the decision and named it.

Suddenly. I was banned.

No shit.

So, on this forum, my questions involve process. Training to moderate should be paramount. Peter in my view has such a background because I like him took enough law to see that a process can be followed. My law training spans some courses, not all of law. I did not aim for a law degree but wanted a good schooling not only in real estate law, but business law. Along with that, I got some tax law.

I have been part of committees that meted out discipline. We were trained in the right way vs the wrong way.

My questions are directed to process as I have outlined here and in other posts.

As to Polly, I have no bias either way on her. She ought not to be attacked by any of us. She will have tasks we won't have to do. I thank all great moderators and realize they put forth additional effort.

Mister D

04-27-2014, 12:39 PM

/sarcasm

no, I really haven't seen political bias on the part of the mods here and I've been here since day 1. now personal bs I don't know.

I think Polly will do well. Who and Ade certainly does.

Kalkin

04-27-2014, 12:39 PM

Back when I was a mod any action beyond a warning required mod team consensus as admin demanded. I don't think that has changed.
That consensus thing tends to be viewed with suspicion when the mods are predominantly from one end of the political spectrum. Just an observation from my years of posting.

Mister D

04-27-2014, 12:40 PM

Who's not a mod anymore?

Oceanlover.

Captain Obvious

04-27-2014, 12:42 PM

Oceanlover.

I knew that, did someone else leave recently?

Mister D

04-27-2014, 12:42 PM

That consensus thing tends to be viewed with suspicion when the mods are predominantly from one end of the political spectrum. Just an observation from my years of posting.

That's understandable.

Mister D

04-27-2014, 12:42 PM

I knew that, did someone else leave recently?

I don't think so.

Mister D

04-27-2014, 12:43 PM

Oh wait, KC resigned.

Dr. Who

04-27-2014, 12:46 PM

That's part of the problem. Unilateral control....Didn't work out very well, did it?

Admin has mods to ensure that he doesn't have to babysit the forum. Consensus is required for most actions taken, save for warnings. We have a fairly detailed set of rules and instructions that we must abide by. That is hardly the definition of unilateral control. We also put in place moderator reps to ensure that if the members had an issue with any mod or mod action, they would have recourse. I can't imagine that any other board tries any harder than we do to be fair and unbiased.

Dr. Who

04-27-2014, 12:48 PM

Oh wait, KC resigned.
Blad resigned more recently.

Dr. Who

04-27-2014, 12:55 PM

I am not saying Polly is the problem.

FTR, I get zero flack from this forum. I appreciate this a lot. Some forums are so biased, that one can get banned for nothing more than this.

Example

A Left winger was debating me on my beliefs.

I told the person that my point is easy to understand. The ruling by the USSC on that particular issue lined up with my belief.

I felt harassed by the same person then demanding I fully explain it. I replied, check up the decision and named it.

Suddenly. I was banned.

No shit.

So, on this forum, my questions involve process. Training to moderate should be paramount. Peter in my view has such a background because I like him took enough law to see that a process can be followed. My law training spans some courses, not all of law. I did not aim for a law degree but wanted a good schooling not only in real estate law, but business law. Along with that, I got some tax law.

I have been part of committees that meted out discipline. We were trained in the right way vs the wrong way.

My questions are directed to process as I have outlined here and in other posts.

As to Polly, I have no bias either way on her. She ought not to be attacked by any of us. She will have tasks we won't have to do. I thank all great moderators and realize they put forth additional effort.

We don't ban members for frivolous reasons. As you can see we are fairly tolerant by comparison to other forums, but we do have rules and if a member flagrantly disregards them, despite repeated moderator actions, we will ban a member for the good of the forum.

Chris

04-27-2014, 12:57 PM

That consensus thing tends to be viewed with suspicion when the mods are predominantly from one end of the political spectrum. Just an observation from my years of posting.

Right, but the spectrum is pretty well represented, I think. There's even an anarchist, no, two!!

Bob

04-27-2014, 12:59 PM

Just to briefly answer those who think there's some kind of left wing conspiracy going on here, I was invited to this message board by a rightist in the first place and basically pressured into accepting mod status by Peter (another rightist), who can verify the latter point. I'm sorry to see that some don't feel I'm qualified. I'm more than willing to step down at any time, including right now.

I don't want to push this topic to 500 posts so I confined my comments not to you as a person, but to the process used.

But is that your real head shot photograph?

You selected a very pretty woman.

Kalkin

04-27-2014, 01:02 PM

Right, but the spectrum is pretty well represented, I think. There's even an anarchist, no, two!!
Well, tbh, I don't know the lot of you enough to pass judgement. I do know that two young female socialists being in positions of power makes my spidey-sense tingle a bit, though, and not in the good way.... :)

Bob

04-27-2014, 01:05 PM

We don't ban members for frivolous reasons. As you can see we are fairly tolerant by comparison to other forums, but we do have rules and if a member flagrantly disregards them, despite repeated moderator actions, we will ban a member for the good of the forum.

Some forums are ban happy. Generally you will be a left winger and safe, or a right winger and be harassed.

As I said in my OP, I thank this forum for putting up with some of us, enjoying some of us and if one gets very obnoxious, and can't change, getting rid of those types.

My problem with a poster on a different forum was he abused his posting yet I got banned.

By trying to badger me over a court decision, over and over and over, if anybody were banned, it should have been him. I am trying to recall the specifics. I believe he was one of the moderators but very decidedly a strict left winger. There were not any warnings. It was sudden.

Admin has mods to ensure that he doesn't have to babysit the forum. Consensus is required for most actions taken, save for warnings. We have a fairly detailed set of rules and instructions that we must abide by. That is hardly the definition of unilateral control. We also put in place moderator reps to ensure that if the members had an issue with any mod or mod action, they would have recourse. I can't imagine that any other board tries any harder than we do to be fair and unbiased.

That answers most of my questions. And I will not bring up my other questions since the process seems to me to be very reasonable and well thought out. I did not realize a complaint over things like warnings can be discussed with mod representatives.

Isn't it though, the very natural inclination of said mod representative to 999999 percent take the side of his or her fellow moderators?

Matty

04-27-2014, 01:13 PM

Some forums are ban happy. Generally you will be a left winger and safe, or a right winger and be harassed.

As I said in my OP, I thank this forum for putting up with some of us, enjoying some of us and if one gets very obnoxious, and can't change, getting rid of those types.

My problem with a poster on a different forum was he abused his posting yet I got banned.

By trying to badger me over a court decision, over and over and over, if anybody were banned, it should have been him. I am trying to recall the specifics. I believe he was one of the moderators but very decidedly a strict left winger. There were not any warnings. It was sudden.

Then you are better off away from there!

Bob

04-27-2014, 01:13 PM

Typical.

Well thought out and eloquently presented by a master linguist. :rollseyes:

Isn't he a cunning linguist?

Captain Obvious

04-27-2014, 01:16 PM

Isn't he a cunning linguist?

Yes I am, and I'm fucking great at it.

Bob

04-27-2014, 01:20 PM

Then you are better off away from there!

The AOL boards were pretty much shut down and AOL started a new system that people did not like. I think it cost AOL $$$ so it was no skin off their noses for us to all leave.

This one forum looked to me to be fine. I don't think I kept the link.

There will always be some sort of passion at some point. Some end up getting far to rough on others than is warranted. It makes it hard on those who actually contribute to the topic.

I want to say right now, at times it is easy to drift off topic. If you look at threads posts 1 to infinity, you note how the final post does not resemble what is said in post 1. IT is like a new world. But that is normal.

I have participated in sessions where a person at the end of a line is told X. This person tells his adjacent person X. By the time 20 people have participated, the final person hears gibberish.

It amazes me that people have poor listening skills. But worse, they read something in print and they will prove over and over, they just did not understand. They assume a person that does not agree with them is personally insulting them so start acting as if the alleged insult is the topic. Sad to see how this works in real time, in real life.

Bob

04-27-2014, 01:22 PM

http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Bob http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=591170#post591170)
Isn't he a cunning linguist?

Yes I am, and I'm fucking great at it.

Aha, back from the dead file I see. LOL

This ought to prove that something short is all that is needed and the idea it is all in the depths is wrong. That she approves surface stimulation most.

Chris

04-27-2014, 01:24 PM

Well, tbh, I don't know the lot of you enough to pass judgement. I do know that two young female socialists being in positions of power makes my spidey-sense tingle a bit, though, and not in the good way.... :)

But they not partisans, and it's partisanship where the political turns personal tit for tat off topic BS of I'm right, you're wrong so there's something wrong with you.

Captain Obvious

04-27-2014, 01:27 PM

Aha, back from the dead file I see. LOL

This ought to prove that something short is all that is needed and the idea it is all in the depths is wrong. That she approves surface stimulation most.

Spoken like a true cock blocker.

Kalkin

04-27-2014, 01:33 PM

But they not partisans, and it's partisanship where the political turns personal tit for tat off topic BS of I'm right, you're wrong so there's something wrong with you.
I've been burned by touching a hot iron before, forgive me if I'm wary of hot irons. They still have the potential to burn, even of they have yet to do so. Young idealists with power are not always the arbiters of equal justice that we'd like them to be, regardless of how benign they appear at the outset. I hope you realize I'm speaking in general, and not casting aspersions at anyone in particular here. If you want any further reasoning from me, send me a PM and I'll tell you exactly why I'm concerned.

That being said, congrats to IMP, cute and smart goes a long way in my book.

Green Arrow

04-27-2014, 01:33 PM

Some us fret it is not her, but WE that need the good luck.

I prefer those who do the rulings, have training. Peter for instance has law training.

Is the power of the Moderator unlimited? Who provides checks and balances?

This is a forum, not the federal government. We are the checks and balances on each other. No mod can act on their own, we have to have consensus from the others.

Captain Obvious

04-27-2014, 01:36 PM

People take this shit too seriously.

Way too much douchebaggery over a fucking message forum.

KC

04-27-2014, 01:36 PM

This is a forum, not the federal government. We are the checks and balances on each other. No mod can act on their own, we have to have consensus from the others.

In a way we do have checks and balances though. Mods don't unilaterally make the rules and enforce them, rules are only made with the input of VIPs.

Dr. Who

04-27-2014, 01:37 PM

That answers most of my questions. And I will not bring up my other questions since the process seems to me to be very reasonable and well thought out. I did not realize a complaint over things like warnings can be discussed with mod representatives.

Isn't it though, the very natural inclination of said mod representative to 999999 percent take the side of his or her fellow moderators?
It is their job to be objective about the issue. They must consider both the forum rules and mod guidelines and determine whether the action was or was not consistent with protocol. Taking sides doesn't come into it.

Green Arrow

04-27-2014, 01:38 PM

In a way we do have checks and balances though. Mods don't unilaterally make the rules and enforce them, rules are only made with the input of VIPs.

Right, which was a policy developed by the mods, was it not?

Green Arrow

04-27-2014, 01:39 PM

At any rate, welcome to the ranks, IMPress Polly! Though I wasn't there for the discussion and confirmation, I support your appointment completely.

Kalkin

04-27-2014, 01:41 PM

It would be interesting if a site established a filibuster rule for appointments (not that I'd filibuster IMP, btw).

KC

04-27-2014, 01:42 PM

Right, which was a policy developed by the mods, was it not?

Along with input from Admin and the VIPs themselves, I think.

IMPress Polly

04-27-2014, 01:45 PM

GrassrootsConservative wrote:
If you're going to get someone from that side of the spectrum (again) why not have it be someone like @Chloe (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=565) who isn't a flake and is actually (and it's sad how rare this is) a Progressive with respect and common decency. She even debates her points really well and seems very consistent.

You're entitled to your opinion of me. Just know that I have no intention of persecuting rightists like yourself or anything like that if that's what you're worried about. But anyway, whether as a substitute for me or not, I actually agree with you when you say that Chloe would make a great mod precisely for the reasons you point to!

Chloe wrote:
Thanks, but Polly is nice, respectful, decent, never gets personal with people, and will do a good job as a moderator too in my opinion. Try to give her a chance please.

It's all about presenting your ideas in a respectful way...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91h-2pdU-ik

...:wink:

Green Arrow

04-27-2014, 01:54 PM

You're entitled to your opinion of me. Just know that I have no intention of persecuting rightists like yourself or anything like that if that's what you're worried about. But anyway, whether as a substitute for me or not, I actually agree with you when you say that Chloe would make a great mod precisely for the reasons you point to!

It's all about presenting your ideas in a respectful way...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91h-2pdU-ik

...:wink:

She's right. We actually hired her to take my old job of Impartial Mod Everyone Thinks Is Biased. I was given a new position, Right-Wing Executioner :cool:

KC

04-27-2014, 01:55 PM

She's right. We actually hired her to take my old job of Impartial Mod Everyone Thinks Is Biased. I was given a new position, Right-Wing Executioner :cool:

Dude, that's like every mod at one point or another :laugh:.

Chris

04-27-2014, 02:00 PM

Along with input from Admin and the VIPs themselves, I think.

Yep, admin very much encouraged to greater consensus.

Green Arrow

04-27-2014, 02:17 PM

Dude, that's like every mod at one point or another :laugh:.

I think it's hilarious :tongue: Any time I get accused of bias, I just say the folks on the other side also think I'm biased, and they can't both be right :tongue:

Captain Obvious

04-27-2014, 02:19 PM

I think it's hilarious :tongue: Any time I get accused of bias, I just say the folks on the other side also think I'm biased, and they can't both be right :tongue:

You're bi-political.

;)

Green Arrow

04-27-2014, 02:22 PM

You're bi-political.

;)

LOL, I like that!

KC

04-27-2014, 02:24 PM

I think it's hilarious :tongue: Any time I get accused of bias, I just say the folks on the other side also think I'm biased, and they can't both be right :tongue:

...That doesn't actually work, does it? Logic?

Captain Obvious

04-27-2014, 02:26 PM

...That doesn't actually work, does it? Logic?

Don't ask Chris

Germanicus

04-27-2014, 02:26 PM

You're entitled to your opinion of me. Just know that I have no intention of persecuting rightists like yourself or anything like that if that's what you're worried about. But anyway, whether as a substitute for me or not, I actually agree with you when you say that Chloe would make a great mod precisely for the reasons you point to!

It's all about presenting your ideas in a respectful way...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91h-2pdU-ik

...:wink:

......hh

Im just happy that IMPress Polly has to read my posts now. I think that is awesome. (: I post a great deal of questionable stuff and all of it needs to be checked. Every word. So Im glad IMPress Polly will be moderating my posts.

And IMPRess Polly is a forum we can trust. And her authority is already causing me to remember to present my ideas respectfully.

IMPress Polly will be an awesome Mod.

Chris

04-27-2014, 02:32 PM

I think it's hilarious :tongue: Any time I get accused of bias, I just say the folks on the other side also think I'm biased, and they can't both be right :tongue:

...That doesn't actually work, does it? Logic?

No, the folks on the other side are left. Logic's got nothing to do with it.

Green Arrow

04-27-2014, 02:34 PM

...That doesn't actually work, does it? Logic?

How can I be biased in favor of a leftist and against a rightist, and also be biased in favor of a rightist and against a leftist? :tongue:

Chris

04-27-2014, 02:36 PM

How can I be biased in favor of a leftist and against a rightist, and also be biased in favor of a rightist and against a leftist? :tongue:

If those you're in favor of were anarchists and those you were against were statists. Or vice versa.

KC

04-27-2014, 02:39 PM

How can I be biased in favor of a leftist and against a rightist, and also be biased in favor of a rightist and against a leftist? :tongue:

No I mean I agree with you and everything, but using logic todefend yourself... wouldn't that require logical thinking on the part of others?

Green Arrow

04-27-2014, 02:46 PM

No I mean I agree with you and everything, but using logic todefend yourself... wouldn't that require logical thinking on the part of others?

Arrow's Law of Stupidity :tongue:

Max Rockatansky

04-27-2014, 03:07 PM

Ugh. All I can say.
Not "ugh". I'd yell "Better you than me, SUCKER!" then do my victory dance: http://www.glitterglobe.com/glitter-graphics/animations/11.gif

Have fun, Polly. Better you than me! :D

Kabuki Joe

04-27-2014, 03:25 PM

New Moderator: Welcome @IMPress Polly (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=399). She will do a great job as a moderator at tPF!

...that's pretty much how I take it, she's a mod, no need to turn this into a name calling debate...jesus...

Adelaide

04-27-2014, 03:45 PM

Welcome to the team.

As for some of the comments; whether you like her or her positions on topics is irrelevant. Just give her a chance - who does or doesn't make a good moderator rarely has to do with political opinion, specifically, and sometimes people can truly surprise you.

How many mods does this joint have?
What's a supermod? Did they kill all the lesser mods?

Peter1469

04-27-2014, 05:12 PM

What's a supermod? Did they kill all the lesser mods?

I don't know who added the word super...

sachem

04-27-2014, 05:14 PM

What's a supermod? Did they kill all the lesser mods?I guess they are like supermodels. They get the big bucks.

Matty

04-27-2014, 05:15 PM

I don't know who added the word super...

Who cares? Just add duper! And be done wit it! :grin:

Dr. Who

04-27-2014, 05:19 PM

What's a supermod? Did they kill all the lesser mods?

Yes, there was a bloody coup a couple of years back and the regular mods were all killed by the genetically enhanced mods. We have a nursery where we grow new super mods as required, when the old mods go off to take over other forums. Diabolical isn't it?

http://michaelgraham.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/fat-guy-speedo.jpg
At least you don't look like this guy!:

7014

Perianne

04-28-2014, 01:37 AM

At least you don't look like this guy!:

7014

Max, that is terrible, lol.

Akula

04-28-2014, 03:55 AM

Yes I am, and I'm fucking great at it.

More profound wisdom and intelligence from the capt! Doing the best you can with such limited capacity, I suppose.

Vulgar and juvenile. So predictable.

Max Rockatansky

04-28-2014, 07:01 AM

Max, that is terrible, lol.

Further showing life is relative. :D

Max Rockatansky

04-28-2014, 07:06 AM

Oh man. Looks we got someone in the running for sexiest mod of 2014!

The sad thing is he's likely to win. :(

The Sage of Main Street

04-28-2014, 08:57 AM

She's right. We actually hired her to take my old job of Impartial Mod Everyone Thinks Is Biased, :cool:

Now you've condemned her to an obligation to read my posts. Poor girl.

Bob

04-28-2014, 12:53 PM

http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Bob http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=591175#post591175)
Aha, back from the dead file I see. LOL

This ought to prove that something short is all that is needed and the idea it is all in the depths is wrong. That she approves surface stimulation most.

Spoken like a true cock blocker.

I am sure that other than me, the forum would love to learn what that statement means.

Peter1469

04-28-2014, 01:03 PM

I am sure that other than me, the forum would love to learn what that statement means.

The concept is well known in my generation, although I have to think it was misapplied here.

MrJimmyDale

04-28-2014, 01:07 PM

I am sure that other than me, the forum would love to learn what that statement means. I think that the rest of us know

Peter1469

04-28-2014, 01:14 PM

The concept is well known in my generation, although I have to think it was misapplied here.

The best that I ever saw: boy dancing with girl. Another boy says, hey dude, how did that STD test turn out.

Lame, yes. But girl's eyes went wide and girl walked away. I am an ass.....

Peter1469

04-28-2014, 01:27 PM

The best that I ever saw: boy dancing with girl. Another boy says, hey dude, how did that STD test turn out.

Lame, yes. But girl's eyes went wide and girl walked away. I am an ass.....

It was especially funny because my friend was / is a male model. He couldn't believe she walked away. He is still in shock.

Bob

04-28-2014, 01:32 PM

http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Peter1469 http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=592185#post592185)
The best that I ever saw: boy dancing with girl. Another boy says, hey dude, how did that STD test turn out.

Lame, yes. But girl's eyes went wide and girl walked away. I am an ass.....

It was especially funny because my friend was / is a male model. He couldn't believe she walked away. He is still in shock.

Well, end the story. Did you end up with the girl?

A good one is to fart loudly in a movie with friends with you. This is good for teens since I do not go to movies with teens.
Leap to your feet and proclaim loudly, I would never pull such a stunt with my friends with me and walk to another seat.

sachem

04-28-2014, 01:33 PM

It was especially funny because my friend was / is a male model. He couldn't believe she walked away. He is still in shock.Doesn't matter how cute the delivery system. No one wants an STD. :p

You were an ass. :D

Captain Obvious

04-28-2014, 01:33 PM

Yep, cock blocker.

Cigar

04-28-2014, 01:34 PM

Yep, cock blocker.

http://datingconfidential.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/cock-block.jpg

Peter1469

04-28-2014, 01:36 PM

Well, end the story. Did you end up with the girl?

A good one is to fart loudly in a movie with friends with you. This is good for teens since I do not go to movies with teens.
Leap to your feet and proclaim loudly, I would never pull such a stunt with my friends with me and walk to another seat.

Absolutely.

Bob

04-28-2014, 01:45 PM

http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Bob http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=592140#post592140)
I am sure that other than me, the forum would love to learn what that statement means.

The concept is well known in my generation, although I have to think it was misapplied here.

Did you give an example in your story about the VD test results?

As you say, if that was his intent, he missed his mark.

Bob

04-28-2014, 01:47 PM

http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Bob http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=592204#post592204)
Well, end the story. Did you end up with the girl?

A good one is to fart loudly in a movie with friends with you. This is good for teens since I do not go to movies with teens.
Leap to your feet and proclaim loudly, I would never pull such a stunt with my friends with me and walk to another seat.

Absolutely.

Great. How did your STD test results turn out? :grin:

Captain Obvious

04-28-2014, 01:48 PM

Bob's here.

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m521bk1WBz1rv82rjo1_500.gif

Peter1469

04-28-2014, 02:00 PM

Great. How did your STD test results turn out? :grin:

Surprisingly I have been lucky.

In the army once I did have to get a blood test just to make sure. This very, very pretty PFC called my name in the waiting room- "Captain peter1469- syphilis test- come this way." Everyone in the waiting room looked at me. I said, good job. She blushed. The test was negative, but the doc was a friend of mine and he jabbed me with two penicillin shots and I couldn't sit down for days.

Bob

04-28-2014, 02:03 PM

http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Peter1469 http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=592200#post592200)
It was especially funny because my friend was / is a male model. He couldn't believe she walked away. He is still in shock.

In the army once I did have to get a blood test just to make sure. This very, very pretty PFC called my name in the waiting room- "Captain peter1469- syphilis test- come this way." Everyone in the waiting room looked at me. I said, good job. She blushed. The test was negative, but the doc was a friend of mine and he jabbed me with two penicillin shots and I couldn't sit down for days.

When I was a youth, VD was not an issue. Once in Germany, it became an issue. I know what you mean. If you are tight with the medics, you can get shots on the QT. I am reading between the lines, yet say no more.

I don't know if the current crop of military know that at one time, getting VD could get a soldier court martialed.

Bob

04-28-2014, 02:09 PM

Bob's here.

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m521bk1WBz1rv82rjo1_500.gif

Your junk is definitely ugly.

BTW, how long have you planned to ruin this thread?

Captain Obvious

04-28-2014, 02:15 PM

Surprisingly I have been lucky.

In the army once I did have to get a blood test just to make sure. This very, very pretty PFC called my name in the waiting room- "Captain peter1469- syphilis test- come this way." Everyone in the waiting room looked at me. I said, good job. She blushed. The test was negative, but the doc was a friend of mine and he jabbed me with two penicillin shots and I couldn't sit down for days.

It was an amusing story. Don't fret so much.I'm not fretting. Bob. I have a great sense of humor. It's the only way to get through life with men. ;)

Peter1469

04-28-2014, 02:33 PM

I'm not fretting. Bob. I have a great sense of humor. It's the only way to get through life with men. ;)

We are impossible some times!

sachem

04-28-2014, 02:35 PM

We are impossible some times!Tell me about it.

Captain Obvious

04-28-2014, 02:37 PM

Are you kidding me?

Eat, sleep, beer, fuck, shit.

That's all we need.

sachem

04-28-2014, 02:42 PM

Are you kidding me?

Eat, sleep, beer, fuck, shit.

That's all we need.I know, dear. You boys are such simple creatures.

Mister D

04-28-2014, 02:43 PM

I know, dear. You boys are such simple creatures.

Some of us are a little more bookish than the Captain.

Kalkin

04-28-2014, 03:16 PM

I know, dear. You boys are such simple creatures.
And your day isn't made by a new pair of shoes? Please... :)

sachem

04-28-2014, 03:26 PM

And your day isn't made by a new pair of shoes? Please... :)No. I have big feet. And I am tall. Don't wear heels. Shoes are not my thing.

Peter1469

04-28-2014, 03:30 PM

No. I have big feet. And I am tall. Don't wear heels. Shoes are not my thing.

How tall?

sachem

04-28-2014, 03:35 PM

How tall?Six feet.

Boris The Animal

04-28-2014, 03:37 PM

All I can say is can't you do better?

Kalkin

04-28-2014, 03:50 PM

No. I have big feet. And I am tall. Don't wear heels. Shoes are not my thing.
Perhaps you are the exception that proves the rule. 9 out of 10 women I know have dozens of pairs of shoes and are constantly on the prowl for more...

sachem

04-28-2014, 03:55 PM

Perhaps you are the exception that proves the rule. 9 out of 10 women I know have dozens of pairs of shoes and are constantly on the prowl for more...Damn right I am the exception! :D

MrJimmyDale

04-28-2014, 03:56 PM

Damn right I am the exception! :D That's what is says on the bathroom wall........:)

sachem

04-28-2014, 04:00 PM

That's what is says on the bathroom wall........:)lol..........I had a hell of a time getting in there.

Captain Obvious

04-28-2014, 04:33 PM

Can you slam dunk a basketball?

Mainecoons

04-28-2014, 04:51 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Polly, watch out for this guy! He's a mods worst nightmare. :rofl:

sachem

04-28-2014, 05:08 PM

Can you slam dunk a basketball?Me? No, I'm white.

Green Arrow

04-28-2014, 08:09 PM

All I can say is can't you do better?

Yep, which is why she got the job. We found her better, and best :)

Captain Obvious

04-28-2014, 08:10 PM

Me? No, I'm white.

Thought you were injun.

Max Rockatansky

04-28-2014, 08:14 PM

Are you kidding me?

Eat, sleep, beer, fuck, shit.

That's all we need.Texas heaven.

sachem

04-28-2014, 08:21 PM

Thought you were injun.One great grandma was NA. The rest are pasty white Irish folks.

Injuns can't dunk either

Boris The Animal

04-28-2014, 08:46 PM

Yep, which is why she got the job. We found her better, and best :)I bet it's because like you, she's a Communist.

Captain Obvious

04-28-2014, 08:47 PM

Injuns can't dunk either

Where's Spike Lee when you need him?

Mister D

04-28-2014, 08:48 PM

Where's Spike Lee when you need him?

right here. :wink:

Green Arrow

04-28-2014, 09:01 PM

I bet it's because like you, she's a Communist.

I'm a socialist, not a communist. IMPress Polly and I have a lot of disagreement there.

No, unlike you, I do not make character judgements based on political affiliation.

nic34

04-28-2014, 09:05 PM

Green, how's your weather? Riding it out OK? :huh:

Green Arrow

04-28-2014, 09:13 PM

Green, how's your weather? Riding it out OK? :huh:

We're under a tornado watch at the moment. Massive thunder storm. I've got the family down in the basement and my father and grandmother work downtown, which is safe from tornadoes. We'll be okay. Thanks for asking :)

Green Arrow

04-29-2014, 05:56 AM

Alright, the storm has broken and there's no more concern about a tornado. So, bedtime for me :tongue:

Captain Obvious

04-29-2014, 07:57 AM

Wasn't this thread about Polly or someone?

Chris

04-29-2014, 08:10 AM

That's blown over too with little damage done.

Boris The Animal

04-29-2014, 03:20 PM

I'm a socialist, not a communist. @IMPress Polly (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=399) and I have a lot of disagreement there.

No, unlike you, I do not make character judgements based on political affiliation.Same old shit, different flies. All the same it means total dependence on big daddy government.

Peter1469

04-29-2014, 03:21 PM

Same old shit, different flies. All the same it means total dependence on big daddy government.

And it doesn't have anything to do with moderation.

Green Arrow

04-29-2014, 05:41 PM

Same old shit, different flies. All the same it means total dependence on big daddy government.

Well, again, political affiliation has nothing to do with moderation.

KC

04-29-2014, 05:55 PM

Same old shit, different flies. All the same it means total dependence on big daddy government.
Green Arrow, aren't you an anarcho-socialist.

Well, again, political affiliation has nothing to do with moderation.
At least that's how it's supposed to roll. Sometimes theory and reality chart different courses.

KC

04-29-2014, 08:07 PM

At least that's how it's supposed to roll. Sometimes theory and reality chart different courses.

You'd be hard pressed to find an example of political ideology influencing the current mod team's moderation. Again, the fact that mods generally don't act unilaterally helps.

Captain Obvious

04-29-2014, 08:09 PM

IP needs to fucking ban someone in this thread, good way to get her feet wet.

:biglaugh:

Kalkin

04-29-2014, 08:10 PM

You'd be hard pressed to find an example of political ideology influencing the current mod team's moderation. Again, the fact that mods generally don't act unilaterally helps.
I was speaking in general. The honeymoons are always nice and of varying duration. I've seen nothing untoward from the staff here. Christ, I haven't even gotten a warning, much less a threadban or infraction. If anything, they may be too lenient. Don't you people know who I am!?!?!

Dr. Who

04-29-2014, 08:16 PM

At least that's how it's supposed to roll. Sometimes theory and reality chart different courses.
Perhaps on some forums, but not on this one. I'm an equal opportunity enforcer and so are all the other mods. If I want to argue with you about politics, I do so. If you are making bad faith remarks to anyone, whether I agree with your "opinion" in the matter or not, how you present it is all that is important in moderation. Break the rules, and you could be my best friend and I will infract you. That's just how we roll.

KC

04-29-2014, 08:18 PM

I was speaking in general. The honeymoons are always nice and of varying duration. I've seen nothing untoward from the staff here. Christ, I haven't even gotten a warning, much less a threadban or infraction. If anything, they may be too lenient. Don't you people know who I am!?!?!

Light moderation is what tPF strives for. Except for when things get out of hand.

Kalkin

04-29-2014, 08:18 PM

Perhaps on some forums, but not on this one. I'm an equal opportunity enforcer and so are all the other mods. If I want to argue with you about politics, I do so. If you are making bad faith remarks to anyone, whether I agree with your "opinion" in the matter or not, how you present it is all that is important in moderation. Break the rules, and you could be my best friend and I will infract you. That's just how we roll.
Damn. I'm gonna need some dirt on you guys.

Dr. Who

04-29-2014, 08:24 PM

Damn. I'm gonna need some dirt on you guys.
:laugh:

Mister D

04-29-2014, 08:33 PM

I was speaking in general. The honeymoons are always nice and of varying duration. I've seen nothing untoward from the staff here. Christ, I haven't even gotten a warning, much less a threadban or infraction. If anything, they may be too lenient. Don't you people know who I am!?!?!

What I especially like is that the 1001 accusations of racism accomplish nothing. That must have disappointed Davocrat. :grin:

Green Arrow

04-29-2014, 08:38 PM

I was speaking in general. The honeymoons are always nice and of varying duration. I've seen nothing untoward from the staff here. Christ, I haven't even gotten a warning, much less a threadban or infraction. If anything, they may be too lenient. Don't you people know who I am!?!?!

I demand ritual sacrifices, if this is to remain so :tongue:

Captain Obvious

04-29-2014, 08:38 PM

I demand ritual sacrifices, if this is to remain so :tongue:

Get a consensus and bang! Done!

Akula

05-15-2014, 01:50 PM

Who nominates candidates?
Who determines suitability? Based on what?

Is it number of posts?
Date joined?
Who they're friends with?
What is the criteria?

Captain Obvious

05-15-2014, 01:54 PM

Basically whoever the mod team things would make a good candidate.

No, you don't get any input.

Green Arrow

05-15-2014, 01:57 PM

Who nominates candidates?
Who determines suitability? Based on what?

Is it number of posts?
Date joined?
Who they're friends with?
What is the criteria?

Moderators, moderators, and based on a number of factors.

Akula

05-15-2014, 02:11 PM

Moderators, moderators, and based on a number of factors.

ahhh.No wonder....I think I see the problem.

A closed inbred clique with no input from others allowed. Yeah...that should work great. Like North Korea.

Green Arrow

05-15-2014, 02:15 PM

ahhh.No wonder....I think I see the problem.

A closed inbred clique with no input from others allowed. Yeah...that should work great. Like North Korea.

As I said, you are free to take it up with ADMIN.

Captain Obvious

05-15-2014, 02:16 PM

As I said, you are free to take it up with ADMIN.

AKA "The Grand Wizard of tPF"

Akula

05-15-2014, 02:20 PM

As I said, you are free to take it up with ADMIN.

I trust him a lot more than you guys...As you can see..despite some of your best efforts..I'm still here.....Ask capt obvious. LMAO...or peter
hahahahahahahAAAAAAhhhaahahahaha...

rattle cage-get bitten

Common Sense

05-15-2014, 02:21 PM

ahhh.No wonder....I think I see the problem.

A closed inbred clique with no input from others allowed. Yeah...that should work great. Like North Korea.

Except it's not a government...I wonder how your average company hires executives. I'm guessing they don't have employees vote on it.

Captain Obvious

05-15-2014, 02:21 PM

I trust him a lot more than you guys...As you can see..despite some of your best efforts..I'm still here.....Ask capt obvious. LMAO...or peter
hahahahahahahAAAAAAhhhaahahahaha...

rattle cage-get bitten

There are some on the mod team who believe to this day that ADMIN and me are the same person.

Isn't that right?

Green Arrow

05-15-2014, 02:21 PM

I trust him a lot more than you guys...As you can see..despite some of your best efforts..I'm still here.....Ask capt obvious. LMAO...or peter
hahahahahahahAAAAAAhhhaahahahaha...

rattle cage-get bitten

That's nice. I agree, I like ADMIN. He is very kind, and respectable.

Captain Obvious

05-15-2014, 02:22 PM

Wouldn't that just shit up your bowl of cheerios, eh?

:biglaugh:

The Sage of Main Street

05-15-2014, 02:34 PM

Except it's not a government...I wonder how your average company hires executives. I'm guessing they don't have employees vote on it. That's exactly why Capitalism, like Socialism, is the enemy of democracy. We are not of a lower order than the business management. That is stagnant feudalism. The New World was supposed to change that.

Akula

05-15-2014, 02:43 PM

Except it's not a government...

It isn't? really?
Go on!

I wonder how your average company hires executives. I'm guessing they don't have employees vote on it.

poor analogy.

We aren't "employees"...The site isn't our "boss"...we're the members..SOME of us have CONTRIBUTED money to the site...

It's best if the members are happy and not being jacked around by moderators...wouldn't you think?

Akula

05-15-2014, 02:44 PM

That's nice. I agree, I like ADMIN. He is very kind, and respectable.

too bad it isn't contagious

Akula

05-15-2014, 02:45 PM

There are some on the mod team who believe to this day that ADMIN and me are the same person.

Isn't that right?

there's no way.

I'll kiss a dog on television if that's true.

Green Arrow

05-15-2014, 02:46 PM

too bad it isn't contagious

You are free to your opinion, of course.

Akula

05-15-2014, 02:49 PM

You are free to your opinion, of course.

..or i could eat runny birdshit and shove a cock up my own ass..I believe that's what one of your "moderators" got away with saying to me the other day...real classy...keep up the good work! Lookin' sharp!

Captain Obvious

05-15-2014, 02:50 PM

..or i could eat runny birdshit and shove a cock up my own ass..I believe that's what one of your "moderators" got away with saying to me the other day...real classy...keep up the good work! Lookin' sharp!

Another satisfied customer!

:biglaugh:

Green Arrow

05-15-2014, 02:55 PM

..or i could eat runny birdshit and shove a cock up my own ass..I believe that's what one of your "moderators" got away with saying to me the other day...real classy...keep up the good work! Lookin' sharp!

We are aiming to reduce the vulgarity.

bladimz

05-15-2014, 02:55 PM

IMPress Polly, at the risk of being repetitious, i'm glad to see you on the team. You'll be a great addition; and... it'll change your life.

7420

Akula

05-15-2014, 02:56 PM

We are aiming to reduce the vulgarity.

but not moderators who violate rules...I got it...

Green Arrow

05-15-2014, 02:58 PM

but not moderators who violate rules...I got it...

If a mod goes against our new push against senseless vulgarity, action will be taken.

Akula

05-15-2014, 03:00 PM

If a mod goes against our new push against senseless vulgarity, action will be taken.

as opposed to what? "sensible" vulgarity?

Green Arrow

05-15-2014, 03:02 PM

as opposed to what? "sensible" vulgarity?

As opposed to minor vulgarity.

Akula

05-15-2014, 03:03 PM

As opposed to minor vulgarity.

Give me an example of both so I can know how to recognize them.

Green Arrow

05-15-2014, 03:08 PM

Give me an example of both so I can know how to recognize them.

Nope, not gonna do that. You're an adult, I shouldn't have to explain what is and is not proper behavior for adults.

Akula

05-15-2014, 03:13 PM

Nope, not gonna do that. You're an adult, I shouldn't have to explain what is and is not proper behavior for adults.

I want to know the difference between "minor" vulgarity (which you will allow) and "senseless" vulgarity (which you won't.)
Since our posts have to be judged and evaluated by the mods to see who gets infracted, I need to know the guidelines that are in place.
Vague, inconclusive definitions will only backfire on you...be careful.

What if I mistakenly said a "senselessly" vulgar word but I only thought it was a "minor" vulgarity.

There's too much confusion...

Exactly which words are minor and which words are senseless.

Green Arrow

05-15-2014, 03:15 PM

I want to know the difference between "minor" vulgarity (which you will allow) and "senseless" vulgarity (which you won't.)
Since our posts have to be judged and evaluated by the mods to see who gets infracted, I need to know the guidelines that are in place.
Vague, inconclusive definitions will only backfire on you...be careful.

What if I mistakenly said a "senselessly" vulgar word but I only thought it was a "minor" vulgarity.

There's too much confusion...

Exactly which words are minor and which words are senseless.

If you mistakenly say something senselessly vulgar, you will receive a warning and thus have an idea what not to say.

Matty

05-15-2014, 03:19 PM

I have a headache. Off topic discussions are allowed today. As in tobacco in the Rush Limbaugh thread. Get over it Akula.

Alyosha

05-15-2014, 03:19 PM

I hate to sound like a lawyer, but you can't tell someone "you're an adult, I shouldn't have to explain..." because that's simply not the case. Adults have different sensibilities as to what is vulgar and what is not vulgar.

For example, I don't mind the word "bitch" but other people do.

This is where things will get sticky. You are headed for trouble with these ambiguous terms. You should define which terms will get someone banned or else don't ban them. To quote Sir Thomas Moore in "Utopia", you would first make thieves, and then punish them.

There should be a list of words that cannot be used or those words should just be crossed out. That is fair. Personally, I think when mods invite the subject matter which you've done with Polly's thread and this one in a way, they can't then back out and choose not to respond. That leaves the impression that you wish to have your cake and eat it, too.

I say this gently to you because you are my friend. If I am making Akula my bedfellow you know I am seriously concerned about the principle.

Akula

05-15-2014, 03:21 PM

If you mistakenly say something senselessly vulgar, you will receive a warning and thus have an idea what not to say.

No.I doubt you'll get away with that tactic....You don't get to make up rules as you go depending on who you want to infract.
It's already been tried and didn't work.

People getting banned and reinstated and "infractions" levied and then reversed...know what I mean? ;)

Akula

05-15-2014, 03:23 PM

I have a headache.

aspirin?

Off topic discussions are allowed today. As in tobacco in the Rush Limbaugh thread. Get over it Akula.

Not sure what your complaint is. Hope you resolve it.

Green Arrow

05-15-2014, 03:23 PM

I hate to sound like a lawyer, but you can't tell someone "you're an adult, I shouldn't have to explain..." because that's simply not the case. Adults have different sensibilities as to what is vulgar and what is not vulgar.

For example, I don't mind the word "bitch" but other people do.

This is where things will get sticky. You are headed for trouble with these ambiguous terms. You should define which terms will get someone banned or else don't ban them. To quote Sir Thomas Moore in "Utopia", you would first make thieves, and then punish them.

There should be a list of words that cannot be used or those words should just be crossed out. That is fair. Personally, I think when mods invite the subject matter which you've done with Polly's thread and this one in a way, they can't then back out and choose not to respond. That leaves the impression that you wish to have your cake and eat it, too.

I say this gently to you because you are my friend. If I am making Akula my bedfellow you know I am seriously concerned about the principle.
Peter1469 made a valid point about this that Akula's behavior only confirms. All getting into specifics of every word not to say will do is give them a line they can stomp all over. It allows bad faith posting without breaking rules, which will only serve to run the forum into the ground.

If anyone else asked these questions, I'd be inclined to answer them, but not Akula. I know what he's up to and I'm frankly sick of putting up with it.

Alyosha

05-15-2014, 03:23 PM

No.I doubt you'll get away with that tactic....You don't get to make up rules as you go depending on who you want to infract.
It's already been tried and didn't work.

People getting banned and reinstated and "infractions" levied and then reversed...know what I mean? ;)

I submit to the moderation staff that there be a new rule called: No flogging dead horses.

If for no other reason than all our sanity's sake.

Alyosha

05-15-2014, 03:27 PM

@Peter1469 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=10) made a valid point about this that Akula's behavior only confirms. All getting into specifics of every word not to say will do is give them a line they can stomp all over. It allows bad faith posting without breaking rules, which will only serve to run the forum into the ground.

If anyone else asked these questions, I'd be inclined to answer them, but not Akula. I know what he's up to and I'm frankly sick of putting up with it.

While I love Peter1469 to death I think he's wrong here. :)

Respectfully, I say that there are things that you can and must define and "vulgarity" is one of them. Bad faith posting is one of those judgment calls that moderators must make, and you can make that in a caucus or straight democratic vote. However you do it is not my concern.

Saying vulgarity is not allowed and yet refusing to define it is unfair to the posters on this forum when it is easy enough to provide a list of words that are considered vulgar.

Matty

05-15-2014, 03:28 PM

aspirin?

Not sure what your complaint is. Hope you resolve it.
You should go read the Rush Limbaugh thread, you'll see what I mean. Rules are made to be broken.

Matty

05-15-2014, 03:30 PM

@Peter1469 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=10) made a valid point about this that Akula's behavior only confirms. All getting into specifics of every word not to say will do is give them a line they can stomp all over. It allows bad faith posting without breaking rules, which will only serve to run the forum into the ground.

If anyone else asked these questions, I'd be inclined to answer them, but not Akula. I know what he's up to and I'm frankly sick of putting up with it.
You broke the rules by going off topic in the Rush Limbaugh thread. Pipe tobacco, chewing tobacco, snuff etc, rules are made to be broken right?

Akula

05-15-2014, 03:31 PM

You should go read the Rush Limbaugh thread, you'll see what I mean. Rules are made to be broken.

See..you don't understand...quite a number of rules have been broken by moderators in just the past couple of days...I've had enough of their rule breaking and arrogance. That's exactly the point.

Matty

05-15-2014, 03:32 PM

See..you don't understand...quite a number of rules have been broken by moderators in just the past couple of days...I've had enough of their rule breaking and arrogance. That's exactly the point.
Well you have to decide not to let it bother you. That's all.

Akula

05-15-2014, 03:35 PM

@Peter1469 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=10) made a valid point about this that Akula's behavior only confirms. All getting into specifics of every word not to say will do is give them a line they can stomp all over. It allows bad faith posting without breaking rules, which will only serve to run the forum into the ground.

If anyone else asked these questions, I'd be inclined to answer them, but not Akula. I know what he's up to and I'm frankly sick of putting up with it.

You broke a rule the other day about reporting posts and you know it.Right?....not to mention what peter or code did...in violation of the rules.
Don't try to make this about me...you want rules but you don't want to abide by them. You guys want vague rules that leave you free to interpret them depending on who you intend to infract...

Now chill, little man.

Green Arrow

05-15-2014, 03:38 PM

You broke a rule the other day about reporting posts and you know it.Right?....not to mention what peter or code did...in violation of the rules.
Don't try to make this about me...you want rules but you don't want to abide by them. You guys want vague rules that leave you free to interpret them depending on who you intend to infract...

Now chill, little man.

What rule did I break, exactly? I looked at the list of rules and I don't see it.

Captain Obvious

05-15-2014, 03:38 PM

You broke the rules by going off topic in the Rush Limbaugh thread. Pipe tobacco, chewing tobacco, snuff etc, rules are made to be broken right?

This is why you can't go overboard with rules and regulations because members will be pissants and question everything.

Which is why there should be a basic set of rules and the discretion of the Mod team should be the final ruling - like it or not.

Captain Obvious

05-15-2014, 03:39 PM

Nope, not gonna do that. You're an adult, I shouldn't have to explain what is and is not proper behavior for adults.

Bingo!

Captain Obvious

05-15-2014, 03:40 PM

I submit to the moderation staff that there be a new rule called: No flogging dead horses.

If for no other reason than all our sanity's sake.

Monkey's are safe, no?

Matty

05-15-2014, 03:40 PM

What rule did I break, exactly? I looked at the list of rules and I don't see it.
Rule number ten exactly.

Matty

05-15-2014, 03:41 PM

This is why you can't go overboard with rules and regulations because members will be pissants and question everything.

Which is why there should be a basic set of rules and the discretion of the Mod team should be the final ruling - like it or not.
Make rules and break them. Right?

Don't let common sense and rationality get in the way. Threads evolve/devolve and if it's your thread and you want it un-hijacked, is simply PMing a mod asking him/her to step in and get the thread back on topic too much trouble?

But that's not the issue, whiners will ultimately find some way to whine and/or make it seem like some kind of Mod team conspiracy.

Peter1469

05-15-2014, 03:44 PM

Most, if not all, sorts of "extreme vulgarity" that has resulted in anything other than a warning or a thread ban (neither serious) were based on patterns. If someone continually tosses around extremely vulgar content, I would think few would be sorry to see that member move on. And this is a recent concern to the Forum. We have gone a long time with members who never thought to over completely overboard.

Then you get to the other problem. If it isn't reported don't assume a moderator saw it. There are some members I never read absent a report (Or PM of course). Also reporting it after the fact well after the offended member fights back does not help his or her case.

We are not saying the f'bomb is actionable in and of itself. Or bitch. The mods haven't had too much trouble knowing when something goes too far, and by that time at least one warning has been issued.

I know you think that I am wrong Alyosha, but you are a defense attorney. :smiley:

While I love @Peter1469 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=10) to death I think he's wrong here. :)

Respectfully, I say that there are things that you can and must define and "vulgarity" is one of them. Bad faith posting is one of those judgment calls that moderators must make, and you can make that in a caucus or straight democratic vote. However you do it is not my concern.

Saying vulgarity is not allowed and yet refusing to define it is unfair to the posters on this forum when it is easy enough to provide a list of words that are considered vulgar.

Matty

05-15-2014, 03:47 PM

Most, if not all, sorts of "extreme vulgarity" that has resulted in anything other than a warning or a thread ban (neither serious) were based on patterns. If someone continually tosses around extremely vulgar content, I would think few would be sorry to see that member move on. And this is a recent concern to the Forum. We have gone a long time with members who never thought to over completely overboard.

Then you get to the other problem. If it isn't reported don't assume a moderator saw it. There are some members I never read absent a report (Or PM of course). Also reporting it after the fact well after the offended member fights back does not help his or her case.

We are not saying the f'bomb is actionable in and of itself. Or bitch. The mods haven't had too much trouble knowing when something goes too far, and by that time at least one warning has been issued.

I know you think that I am wrong @Alyosha (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=863), but you are a defense attorney. :smiley:

May I ask a question?. If a member does make such a report should they expect a response or not?

Peter1469

05-15-2014, 03:50 PM

May I ask a question?. If a member does make such a report should they expect a response or not?

In a perfect world all reports would be followed up with a response. Sometimes we have to wait to discuss with other mods and the response falls through the cracks. And if we issue a warning or TB because of a report, I would hope the member reporting would notice it.

I will try to do better at that.

Captain Obvious

05-15-2014, 03:51 PM

May I ask a question?. If a member does make such a report should they expect a response or not?

As far as I'm aware it's always been the policy of the Mod team to react to reported posts.

React/respond - doesn't always mean reported posts are actionable, a lot of people use the report function as a tool for petty vindication.

Akula

05-15-2014, 03:53 PM

I submit to the moderation staff that there be a new rule called: No flogging dead horses.

If for no other reason than all our sanity's sake.

Sure..except it hasn't been you that has been banned...and reinstated..and had my sig deleted and then restored and had infractions levied and reversed..had it announced in the open forum when I reported a post for insults....all illegally..or in "violation of the rules"..

I've played this bias game with these guys before. I know they don't like me because I frustrate them when they play their power games...and to be fair, it's not just the current group..there are some former mods involved in this misconduct. It happens in every forum when the mods get too arrogant..nothing new.

Like I say..if they didn't rattle the cage, they wouldn't keep getting bitten.

..and that is the entire gist of it.

Akula

05-15-2014, 03:54 PM

What rule did I break, exactly? I looked at the list of rules and I don't see it.

Want me to get the PM where you admitted it and post it here?..or are you going to continue to act innocent?

Alyosha

05-15-2014, 03:56 PM

Peter1469

if I may be so bold, but the subject was raised and having someone, even a dear someone, tell me that adults should understand what vulgarity is does not inspire confidence that the term will be applied evenly. I would rather eschew the rule of vulgarity entirely than to make it a judgment call based on the whims of staff, albeit dear and respectable staff.

One man's term of disgust is another man's term of endearment. To reference Kierkegaard in his fine work, Concluding Unscientific Postscripts, a word is defined by the context and the speaker both in accord. If Paperback Writer were to call me a shrew it would have an entirely different meaning than if libhater were to do so, though truthfully I'd be hurt by neither.

To understand that fully enough to moderate one would have to be personally acquainted, or the recipient of a "Report Post".

But you are a prosecutor so perhaps you choose to wiggle around the legal language in order to vex the wicked, wicked posters such as myself who haunt these hallowed forums.

Alyosha

05-15-2014, 03:57 PM

Sure..except it hasn't been you that has been banned...and reinstated..and had my sig deleted and then restored and had infractions levied and reversed..had it announced in the open forum when I reported a post for insults....all illegally..or in "violation of the rules"..

Why do you think I haven't been banned? Do you read none of my posts? Of course I have! Ask Ransom. :D

Don't let common sense and rationality get in the way. Threads evolve/devolve and if it's your thread and you want it un-hijacked, is simply PMing a mod asking him/her to step in and get the thread back on topic too much trouble?

But that's not the issue, whiners will ultimately find some way to whine and/or make it seem like some kind of Mod team conspiracy.

Correct. Only the mod was the high jacker along with yourself. So yes when a mod is engaged in the high jacking it is too much to ask. Akula needs to roll with it because it's a fact of life. Life isn't fair. Some get away with rule breaking and some don't. That's life. Even o n a message board. Now smile behind your teeth why don't you?

Green Arrow

05-15-2014, 04:00 PM

Rule number ten exactly.

"...in such a way that is not the natural evolution of the thread." I'd argue that it was the natural evolution, and I still maintained topical discussion in addition to that.