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Re: ONE PIECE MEGA CONVO THREAD

‎"I hear that in this world everything turns out the way you think. Because for instance, in a case where a person thinks that in this world nothing turns out the way he thinks, what he thinks turns out to be real for him, therefore, everything turns out the way you think." -Eiichiro Oda, Author of One Piece from One Piece Volume 32 'Author's Note'

Re: ONE PIECE MEGA CONVO THREAD

so guys... i thought about a nice prediction...

madame shirley did say that a man with a strawhat will destroy fishman island... just because we already passed FI for now doesnt mean that this prediction will not come true after all(even said by camie), but what does that mean?

i think it will start with:

- Luffy giving Shanks his strawhat back or luffy will loose his strawhat to one of the emperors, who then will destroy FI for punishing luffy and to state "dont fuck with me boy"

so or so, i think FI will be destroyed in the future and that the men who does this is not luffy, but wears his strawhat

Re: ONE PIECE MEGA CONVO THREAD

Why such a literal interpretation? The idiom "by his hands" conveys responsibility for an action, nothing more. It does not have to mean Luffy (or another pirate with a straw hat) is directly involved in the destruction of Fishman Island, only that his actions are responsible (directly, or indirectly) for the island's destruction. For example:

Eavesdropping on Neptune, Caribou discovered Shirahoshi's true identity was the ancient weapon Poseidon. He has since escaped Fishman Island. If Caribou sells this information to the wrong person, it could lead to the invasion of Fishman Island. Even if the invasion is repulsed, much of the island could be left in ruins. Luffy was responsible for bringing Caribou to Fishman Island in the first place, thus his arrival instated a chain of events that led to the destruction of Fishman Island.

Caribou is now on the Winter Island Drake attacked, the one favored by Kaido. Kaido is the Yonkou Luffy and Law are planning to defeat. More than a coincidence, maybe?

Re: ONE PIECE MEGA CONVO THREAD

Sorry if this is the wrong place for this but, I have a question about Thatch and the Yami Yami no Mi; was it ever implicitly stated in the manga that Blackbeard killed Thatch before he ate the Yami Yami no Mi? I'm trying to figure out if Oda may have been foreshadowing Blackbeard's ability to absorb a DF from a dead body. It could explain why the one of the Whitebeard commanders didn't seem super surprised by Blackbeard absorbing Whitebeard's fruit. I think it was Marco who said something about Blackbeard's weird body during the Marineford War.

Re: ONE PIECE MEGA CONVO THREAD

Originally Posted by Tonix

Sorry if this is the wrong place for this but, I have a question about Thatch and the Yami Yami no Mi; was it ever implicitly stated in the manga that Blackbeard killed Thatch before he ate the Yami Yami no Mi? I'm trying to figure out if Oda may have been foreshadowing Blackbeard's ability to absorb a DF from a dead body. It could explain why the one of the Whitebeard commanders didn't seem super surprised by Blackbeard absorbing Whitebeard's fruit. I think it was Marco who said something about Blackbeard's weird body during the Marineford War.

Hmmm now that you said it, no... But Ace did say this : " And then, you killed him and took it? ", personally, I believe he took it before Thatch ate it, because I think the way BB got his hand on the Gura Gura no Mi was thanks to the Yami Yami no Mi, I don't think he wanted that DF purely for his ability to negate other DFs, but that's just my opinion on the matter

Re: ONE PIECE MEGA CONVO THREAD

Originally Posted by Kaiten

Why such a literal interpretation? The idiom "by his hands" conveys responsibility for an action, nothing more. It does not have to mean Luffy (or another pirate with a straw hat) is directly involved in the destruction of Fishman Island, only that his actions are responsible (directly, or indirectly) for the island's destruction.

There was an ample discussion about that back than. Fukaboshi plead to Luffy to bring FI back to zero and he actually did. He destroyed the old circle of hate between humans and fishman, while also enabling a change through the upcoming reverie. That lead to the stop of the old segregation of Fishman and Mareman, Neptune forced them to abandon the Fishmen District, all in all that's a literal destruction of the old to enable them to create a new Fishman Island.

Re: ONE PIECE MEGA CONVO THREAD

Originally Posted by Schabrak

There was an ample discussion about that back than. Fukaboshi plead to Luffy to bring FI back to zero and he actually did. He destroyed the old circle of hate between humans and fishman, while also enabling a change through the upcoming reverie. That lead to the stop of the old segregation of Fishman and Mareman, Neptune forced them to abandon the Fishmen District, all in all that's a literal destruction of the old to enable them to create a new Fishman Island.

I like that explanation. Even if it does not come true, I think it will be better than whatever shounentastic explanation we do get. Destruction in the societal sense, rather than physical, would also fit into the whole true history dynamic.

Re: ONE PIECE MEGA CONVO THREAD

Originally Posted by Schabrak

There was an ample discussion about that back than. Fukaboshi plead to Luffy to bring FI back to zero and he actually did. He destroyed the old circle of hate between humans and fishman, while also enabling a change through the upcoming reverie. That lead to the stop of the old segregation of Fishman and Mareman, Neptune forced them to abandon the Fishmen District, all in all that's a literal destruction of the old to enable them to create a new Fishman Island.

But there's still the possibility that BM will be pissed off enough to destroy FI, if she opens the Tamatebako
Shit the reason everything is confusing me at this point is because of that single point...

Re: ONE PIECE MEGA CONVO THREAD

I forgot about that. Luffy sent her the Tamatebako with his treasure. The Tamatebako blows up, Mam attacks Fishman Island. Another way Luffy could be responsible for the destruction of Fishman Island. A little roundabout, but possible. Eating all that candy in the first place, and angering Mam, also could be how he destroyed Fishman Island with his own hands.