Yes, we do. Actually, he's not a moron, he's very very smart, in an evil genius way. It's all a bit of a game for him, the reward is power. It's the only thing he really gives a fuck about.

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"If Prime Minister Howard truly believes what he says, perhaps his country should find its way to contribute more than just 1,400 troops so some American troops can come home," [Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs] said. "It's easy to talk tough when it's not your country or your troops making the sacrifices."

Originally posted by yolland IMHO, it's a little silly to treat an online forum as some foolproof barometer of what people "really" stand for, for good or for bad.

I'm one of those fools who think that colour and gender shouldn't matter, but it's so intriguing that these elements are now being discussed openly and debated. Interesting, as well, how both are still seen as threatening to the establishment.

In the midst of all the personal attacks, there is some sort of progress happening that's pretty refreshing.

Originally posted by angelordevil I'm one of those fools who think that colour and gender shouldn't matter, but it's so intriguing that these elements are now being discussed openly and debated. Interesting, as well, how both are still seen as threatening to the establishment.

They do still matter, though, and maybe more progress will be made with the discussions taking place about the coming election.

What strikes me most about the comments is that Howard has put his relationship with GWB ahead of Australia's national interest in the alliance with the USA; perhaps it does tip that he isn't expecting to be PM by the time that there is a Democrat in the White House.