Comments on: Fighting Global Warming: Artificial Trees and Slime-Covered Buildingshttp://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/08/27/fighting-global-warming-artificial-trees-and-slime-covered-buildings/
Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:34:00 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.5By: Paulhttp://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/08/27/fighting-global-warming-artificial-trees-and-slime-covered-buildings/#comment-11193
Thu, 18 Aug 2011 20:37:53 +0000http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/08/27/fighting-global-warming-artificial-trees-and-slime-covered-buildings/#comment-11193I find it very hard to believe these are the “most practical and immediate” steps that can be taken. In particular, reducing coal use, or capturing CO2 from large stationary sources, are likely to be much cheaper per unit of CO2.
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Thu, 18 Aug 2011 15:51:21 +0000http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/08/27/fighting-global-warming-artificial-trees-and-slime-covered-buildings/#comment-11192Undeniably believe that which you said. Your favorite reason appeared to be on the web the simplest thing to be aware of. I say to you, I definitely get annoyed while people think about worries that they plainly do not know about. You managed to hit the nail upon the top and also defined out the whole thing without having side effect , people can take a signal. Will likely be back to get more. Thanks
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Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:51:29 +0000http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/08/27/fighting-global-warming-artificial-trees-and-slime-covered-buildings/#comment-11191With the threat of global warming looming, i am a huge advocate of artificial trees, but i’m not sure i 100% agree with this article. Having said that, i think some of the points are valid and i would personally like to see more research on this subject.

Citing clearly biased websites and blogs is hardly a convincing mode of debate.

In addition – there is plenty of counter evidence to global warming. Neither side is conclusive, certainly, but your mentality that everyone who’s skeptical is a loony is just as concerning as you seem to think theirs is. In the last century or so, sea levels and temperatures have been rising, but, put in perspective, it could easily be part of a reoccurring cycle that has been observed throughout natural history by scientists.

Debates are fun and all, but referencing sources that would be considered invalid in a middle school research paper is not a good place to start.

The point about 85 billion tons of carbon is that it is in balance. The global ecosystem does indeed produce 85 billion tons of carbon but it also absorbs 85 billion tones of carbon. The system is therefore has no net gain. We now release 30 billion tones of carbon into the atmosphere, there is a net increase in carbon which is also increasing each year. This carbon dioxide changes the net radiative balance in the atmosphere and temperatures/climates change.

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Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:03:06 +0000http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/08/27/fighting-global-warming-artificial-trees-and-slime-covered-buildings/#comment-11187Interesting ideas. I don’t think I’d like to cover my house with algae though if that’s what was called for. I think we’ll get the most bang for the buck right now with more efficiency of the structures and businesses that are already there.
]]>By: Matthttp://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/08/27/fighting-global-warming-artificial-trees-and-slime-covered-buildings/#comment-11186
Sat, 29 Aug 2009 02:46:16 +0000http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/08/27/fighting-global-warming-artificial-trees-and-slime-covered-buildings/#comment-11186I’m all for trying to find different sources of energy, but according to my biology textbook for college, natural recycling of CO2 puts at least 85 billion tons of carbon into the atmosphere, and has been doing so for the past 250 million years or so. Wikipedia says that all the human activities in the world combine to about 30 billion tons of carbon released into the atmosphere a year. So basically, I’m supposed to believe that 250 million years of 85 billion tons a year didn’t destroy the earth, but 50 years of 30 billion tons is going to. Doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.
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Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:21:38 +0000http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/08/27/fighting-global-warming-artificial-trees-and-slime-covered-buildings/#comment-11185Who is behind the propaganda: Scientists and Journalists with grants and bonuses to produce propaganda.(Sensationalism sells papers too)
Who pays: The tax payer, you and me via governmental sponsors to ensure a nice carbon meter earner for as long as this scam will last.

300 years of coal under our feet, tons of rubbish that could be burned as fuel instead of methane leaking land fill we pay tax on and locally produced biomas we produce so little of.
Instead we import windmills…So much for the carbon footprint but just think about that green energy and the green high tax that goes with it.
The choice for the future: Poor and cold or well off and warm!

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Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:11:20 +0000http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/08/27/fighting-global-warming-artificial-trees-and-slime-covered-buildings/#comment-11184Indeed Neil, there is propaganda and you’ve swallowed it hook, line and sinker. Check out what real climatologists are saying with the “Start Here” section of realclimate.org (http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/05/start-here/). You can also go to http://scienceblogs.com/illconsidered/2008/07/how_to_talk_to_a_sceptic.php which lists the most common myths/lies/misunderstandings. This site is recommended by climatologists.

You imply you know the difference between weather and climate, but if you really did you wouldn’t used the BBQ summer comment. So check http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0JsdSDa_bM where Peter Sinclair gives explains the difference between climate and weather.

If you’re not a troll and are seriously interested in what the science actually says (i.e. not in what some political ideologue on either side says), then check those links above. They try and link to the original work/data so you can see for yourself. Also Sinclair has a number of youtube videos now and those are a good place to get basics as well (he also references original sources where possible). The good news is that even a basic amount of education on the topic is enough to show you that most of the denier memes are lies.

If you still have questions come on over to the comment sections in realclimate, ill-considered, or greenfyre, or tamino open mind and ask there (don’t ask here as you’ll not likely get the responses you need to learn). Come in with an open mind, do not make claims that you can’t back up with evidence (like you did here), and knowledgeable commenters will be happy to help you. Happy researching.