Zimm you could add an amp to your 3808 and your right your speakers would not sound a bit different, base management, detail, and imaging would all be the same, because it is the same control unit. That amp would get you closer to getting some seperates. The one thing that you would have to change is to put that amp on it's own electrical circuit. Like I said sorry that I opened up them worms. Happy hunting PSpee.

I beg to differ, I added the A1400-8 to my 3808 and my speakers sounded much better, better bass, imaging, just better everything. I question whether or not a seperate pre/pro would make as much a difference as just adding the amp did to my system. My $1000USD 3808 is good bang for the buck when paired with better amps, IMO, as seperate Pre/Pros appear to cost much more than this, even the Outlaw 997 is expected to cost a few hundred more than this.

Thats cool jakewash, I'm glad to hear that it was an improvement for you. I just know when I purchased my rotel-1075 amp and put it on my Integra I was disapointed. I thought there would be a huge improvement, sounded the same to me. Thats good to know that you had success with the Denon.

I rest comfortably knowing there should be little improvement, if any.

You just keep believing that

Now that's just cruel .

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I beg to differ, I added the A1400-8 to my 3808 and my speakers sounded much better, better bass, imaging, just better everything.

That's a lie. Not listening...nana nanoona noooonaao. My system is as good as it can be. My system is as good as it can be...probably. My system is as good as...well, as good as it is. Need new amp. Want new amp. Get new amp. Damn chanting.