johnkerry. eightyears later, not one gay question came up. the gay issue never came up as a wedge issue, eight years later. i think that's also a great sign of progress how far this country has come on the issue of -- on the issue of gay rights in to toe, not just same sex marriage, but should gays and lesbians be treated equally under the law, as the president said in this is inaugural address and to add on something joe just said, i'm not sure in 2014 democrats in swing districts will be running away from the president's inaugural address, i'll be curious what the president says in his state of the union address, that's where he gets down to the nitty-gritty of policy descriptions for the country. >> one of the other quick moments, i was thinking about the defense of marriage act, the fact it's coming up before the supreme court and the president gave stonewall unprecedent ed mention in the inaugural address. you had story the other day in the "new york times" about a gay couple, two women soldiers in afghanistan, who needed post-trauma counseling and went -- their chaplains tol