I'm struggling with the notion of one person being subjected to this consistently unwanted behavior from 4 or 5 different guys (simultaneously??) and doing nothing about it. I don't say that to question her veracity - I 100% believe her that she received all of these messages- there's just something odd. That's an awful lot to just "put up with" for a long period of time.

As for McNabb, I'd heard similar second hand stories about him years ago. This didn't really surprise me, unfortunately.

Victims go through a lot of different emotions. In no particular order, they try to ignore it. They try to treat it as just "locker room talk" and try to be tough in the face of it. They feel shamed by it. They feel like they deserve it, or that the way they dress or act has legitimized it. And they bottle it up for long periods sometimes due to all these internally conflicting feelings. It can ruin a woman's life.

Victims go through a lot of different emotions. In no particular order, they try to ignore it. They try to treat it as just "locker room talk" and try to be tough in the face of it. They feel shamed by it. They feel like they deserve it, or that the way they dress or act has legitimized it. And they bottle it up for long periods sometimes due to all these internally conflicting feelings. It can ruin a woman's life.

Hell we have a President who has admitted to sexual abuse.

I guess it doen't matter. Apparently it is ok forUS male politicians. Lets not go into the guy with a lifetime appointment on the
Supreme Court.

Those last two paragraphs were not mine. How did they end up in my post?

...whether each of these guys knew the other guys were hitting on her this way or whether they thought it was their own special misogynist thing they had going. And if the latter, whether there's gonna be some guys jealous of each other.

I think it's become pretty apparent that it can be difficult for a woman to find a job where she's not going to be harassed.

Plenty of people (of all genders) put up with some form of abuse (sexual or otherwise) because they don't want to lose their job The "why didn't she leave" argument blames the victim for being a victim.

Sometimes the difference between harassment and flattery is whether the dude is ugly or not. If a girl thinks you are ugly asking for her number feels like harassment. If you are desirable she will be flattered at flirtations.

Not talking about this particular case, but it seems this metoo movement has morphed from calling out serious crimes like what Harvey Weinstein committed to now include any woman that was once winked at by quasimoto on a subway in the 80ís

Sometimes the difference between harassment and flattery is whether the dude is ugly or not. If a girl thinks you are ugly asking for her number feels like harassment. If you are desirable she will be flattered at flirtations.

Not talking about this particular case, but it seems this metoo movement has morphed from calling out serious crimes like what Harvey Weinstein committed to now include any woman that was once winked at by quasimoto on a subway in the 80ís

That's what this is all about? Flirtations? I haven't seen any accusations of a woman claiming sexual harassment for being asked for her phone number and then claiming #metoo.

Sometimes the difference between harassment and flattery is whether the dude is ugly or not. If a girl thinks you are ugly asking for her number feels like harassment. If you are desirable she will be flattered at flirtations.

Not talking about this particular case, but it seems this metoo movement has morphed from calling out serious crimes like what Harvey Weinstein committed to now include any woman that was once winked at by quasimoto on a subway in the 80ís

Do you send dick pics without permission and make unwanted physical advances? If you think that's acceptable flirtation you're part of the problem.

I'm not blaming her for anything. I was hesitant to post that because I figured it would come across that way. There's just something bizarre to me about 5 dudes simultaneously sending pictures to and harassing the same person. It's crazy.

I'm not blaming her for anything. I was hesitant to post that because I figured it would come across that way. There's just something bizarre to me about 5 dudes simultaneously sending pictures to and harassing the same person. It's crazy.

I'm just saying it's complicated for women in this position. Some of them swallow it for years (no pun intended) and try to forget about it and it fucks them up Big Time.

PS on Archie Ball: The team doesn't suck. They could make a run to be 5-7 in the Big Ten. Some of the pieces are there and I like the inside game they're trying to play. They seem on the edge of getting it. They could be a factor if they recruit well in the coming years.

I think it's become pretty apparent that it can be difficult for a woman to find a job where she's not going to be harassed.

Plenty of people (of all genders) put up with some form of abuse (sexual or otherwise) because they don't want to lose their job The "why didn't she leave" argument blames the victim for being a victim.

Jesus Christ if this is all true these guys have major fucking issues and deserve everything they have coming to them including a beating.. if that happened to my daughter i know i would be there with a baseball bat..again assuming she had no involvement at all i hate to say presumed innocent till proven guilty but this looks pretty guilty