Kevin Hall has led a volatile life with more ups and downs than Beethoven's best, which he actually wrote a thesis on. Do you think you know who you are and where your place is in the universe? Probably not. Are you smart enough to figure it out? Nobody is. Kevin is about as smart as it gets, racking up accomplishments from college sailing to America's Cup coaching and data collection all while kicking cancer....twice. Oh yeah, there's the whole Manic-Depression part that makes you wonder....is that even possible? Yes it is...in his new book Black Sails White Rabbits:; Cancer Was The Easy Part.JC's self-diagnosed ADD doesn't stop there though, listen as they go way farther down the rabbit hole!

Grant 'Fuzz' Spanhake is a highly technical and successful New Zealand born sailor who has competed in four round-the-world races spanning all the way back to 1985. He's been involved in six America's Cups, winning the Cup in 1992 as a coach for America³. Fuzz is also on his fourth Olympic cycle as a sail designer and trim coach. His medal record is excellent with two Golds, three Silvers and a Bronze medal over three different classes. He is currently the Technical Director for the US Sailing Team and a pro sailor who just last year added a Farr 40 World Championship to his resumé. Fuzz is also working with the US Development Team and he talks about some of the new tech they've been using. His wealth of knowledge is unsurpassed and JC had the opportunity to discuss some of his many adventures, including seeing Halley's Comet and the Aurora Australis in the Southern Ocean while Fuzz imparted his technical knowledge regarding sail design and rig tuning.