I've known grown adults who believe that young earth / dinosaur shiat. They were otherwise educated, one I would go so far as to say he is brilliant, but he believes this shiat. I don't farking understand it.

violentsalvation:I've known grown adults who believe that young earth / dinosaur shiat. They were otherwise educated, one I would go so far as to say he is brilliant, but he believes this shiat. I don't farking understand it.

I know a nuclear engineer (by training, not by profession any longer) who believes this crap. He's a religious nutball, of course. He was posting on Facebook about how it's likely that God put fossils on the Earth for his own purposes, or something. Oy.

Well that's probably true, but I'm willing to take a salary hit to live in a better world.

What the hell does that even mean? Imagine you're a low-skilled worker in the US. Illegal immigration has decimated the market for your skills, because people are willing to work for less than minimum wage to do your job.

Now extrapolate that out to whatever market you work in. Someone with an H1B visa is willing to work for half your rate, so they get hired. Then companies lobby congress for more H1B visas so they can replace everyone with less expensive workers. More importantly, those workers are defined as temporary, so even if you're willing to work for that lower rate, you can't get hired, because you're an actual employee.

Well that's probably true, but I'm willing to take a salary hit to live in a better world.

What the hell does that even mean? Imagine you're a low-skilled worker in the US. Illegal immigration has decimated the market for your skills, because people are willing to work for less than minimum wage to do your job.

Now extrapolate that out to whatever market you work in. Someone with an H1B visa is willing to work for half your rate, so they get hired. Then companies lobby congress for more H1B visas so they can replace everyone with less expensive workers. More importantly, those workers are defined as temporary, so even if you're willing to work for that lower rate, you can't get hired, because you're an actual employee.

Lsherm:Now extrapolate that out to whatever market you work in. Someone with an H1B visa is willing to work for half your rate, so they get hired. Then companies lobby congress for more H1B visas so they can replace everyone with less expensive workers. More importantly, those workers are defined as temporary, so even if you're willing to work for that lower rate, you can't get hired, because you're an actual employee.

The idea that one-size-fits-all education isn't feasible because it doesn't take into consideration the peculiarities of the various localities around America is wrongheaded and leads to crap like this. There should absolutely be national standards that schools should be forced to teach.

I think the thing that hits me most is the "were you there" refutation, which would single-handedly nullify most of history.

Seriously though, I would tell them that I would much rather dinosaurs have lived millions of years ago rather than having to accept that God planted millions of fossils with the express purpose of trying to dick with scientists and test the true faith of believers.

/I mean really, do you WANT your deity to have the mentality of a psychotic child?

Well that's probably true, but I'm willing to take a salary hit to live in a better world.

What the hell does that even mean? Imagine you're a low-skilled worker in the US. Illegal immigration has decimated the market for your skills, because people are willing to work for less than minimum wage to do your job.

Now extrapolate that out to whatever market you work in. Someone with an H1B visa is willing to work for half your rate, so they get hired. Then companies lobby congress for more H1B visas so they can replace everyone with less expensive workers. More importantly, those workers are defined as temporary, so even if you're willing to work for that lower rate, you can't get hired, because you're an actual employee.

What "better world" is this? How do you think you win?

It's not winning and losing. It's about stopping exploitation. it's staring us in the face. The currently exploited workers in India and China will rise up. In the next 3 decades the playing field will be leveled and Americans will have to strive even harder to find good jobs. Simultaneously, all of our outsourcing will go to even poorer countries in Africa and the Middle East. And we'll exploit those people as long as we can.

Strolpol:/I mean really, do you WANT your deity to have the mentality of a psychotic child?

Clearly they do. I think it's something like in the Matrix, where Agent Smith says something like they tried to give humans a paradise to live in, but they kept dying or waking up. They had to give us this sh*t world to make us believe it.

FAKE! I went to a catholic school; even there they fit evolution to genesis. It wasn't six calendar days, no, it was six metaphorical days that stretched back from the moment god created the earth, till he created man.

/ but, then again, that was right around the time that rocks were invented