You can be sure if he is not legit, it will be discovered. They are many people working day and night to proof he's not, and when the smoking gun is
found, or that 1 piece of evidence is discovered, you will see his fellow dems turn on him like a pit bull. He will be escorted out by security and
arrested, it will be huge news and news that will carry America down a very hard road.

I believe Obama is hiding something, I am not sure if it is the whole birth thing, however, I am sure he has something serious to hide. Maybe a paper
he wrote in college, maybe another serious radical friend from his past, but the guys just not right.

He could end all of this birth issue by presenting the original document, instead he pays hundres of thousands of dollars to continue to fight the
birthers in court. This is his right, but I believe anybody else would just present the original document and say now stfu, and its time to move on.
Doesn't that make sense?

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I can't prove how much he has spent to sequester all of his records, if any, but I do know that his records are sealed from public scrutiny. Were
this not the case, there would be no basis for questions of eligibility or anything else. What is he afraid of? He has had an enviable college career.
Why not show it off? If he was born in Hawaii, then lay it out, put the argument to rest. My daughter has a birth document nearly identical to what
has been presented on Obama's behalf on the net and elsewhere. I just had to file for the actual Birth Certificate.

Originally posted by mrbarber
I can't prove how much he has spent to sequester all of his records

then why claim he has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars? Why do birthers make lies up?

If he was born in Hawaii, then lay it out, put the argument to rest.

He has laid it out, his birth certificate is available for anyone to see, yet birthers refuse to accept it. It is actually not about the birth
certificate, or any other documentation, it is about the colour of the man.

It having pleased the Divine Providence to dispose the hearts of the most serene and most potent Prince George the Third, by the grace of God,
king of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, defender of the faith, duke of Brunswick and Lunebourg, arch- treasurer and prince elector of the Holy
Roman Empire etc., and of the United States of America, to forget all past misunderstandings and differences that have unhappily interrupted the
good correspondence and friendship which they mutually wish to restore, and to establish such a beneficial and satisfactory intercourse , between the
two countries upon the ground of reciprocal advantages and mutual convenience as may promote and secure to both perpetual peace and harmony;

While English is the official language of ATS and most of us speak, write it and even went to school to learn to do so in reality few of us seem to
have any grasp of the English language.

Above is the opening paragraph from the Treaty of Paris which is the peace treaty that concluded the Revolutionary War here in America.

Clearly the English King who derived his greatest power not as being the King of England but by being a prince of the Holy Roman Empire, it’s Arch
Treasurer and prince elector also reserved the right in perpetuity to be the United State’s Arch Treasurer and to be the United State’s prince
elector.

What does that mean? It means for the English language challenged that the Monarch of Great Brittan has a contractual and legal right to choose the
President of the United States of America. Oh and also to control our money.

While clearly Obama is not who he claims to be, the reality is that Orly is wasting the U.S. Court’s time because this is something that would have
to be taken up with the Queen of England since it is actually the British Monarch that chooses who will be President of the United States.

The United States that was, is and likely will forever be just an incorporated State of the Roman Empire.

I really wish people learned how to read.

I have by the way vigorously argued in the past that Obama is not eligible and should go, but hey if his mom was a porn star? That’s cool he can
stay!

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
I have by the way vigorously argued in the past that Obama is not eligible

You have argued, but you have yet to bring evidence into your arguments. For the most part you have argued "speculation" and unfortunatly that does
not do sufficiently to prove the president is ineligible.

Its a mockery to the justice system in this country that birthers feel their "personal gut feelings" should count as evidence enough.

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