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Talk up your teams guys and gals. Trash talking encouraged, but let's not get shut down by the mods.

I'll start..

My Gmen beat the Birds, but not because they played that well as the Eagles were about as sharp as a sack of wet mice. The Giants are decimated by injuries, but they harassed Vick and knocked him out of the game (with a bruised non-throwing hand - what a man), and were able to capatilize on Eagles mistakes. The Birds $15M cornerback triumverate made 1 pick but allowed 4 TD passes.

Look, here's the deal - Vick has been figured out by the league. The Eagles offensive line is not good enough to protect him from the schemes that defenses are throwing at him. Last year he took opposing defenses by surprise, but that's over.

As for the Gmen, sometimes I'm glad that Manning is not a superstar, because he flies under the radar. Defensive coordinators don't really get their backs up when he comes to town. But his offensive line is solid, and his RBs are healthy. If they can get healthy overall, I see 11-5 this season.

I don't expect San Fran to do anything this year. I've suffered for almost a decade as a 49er fan. The Yorks need to go. Bring back DeBartolo and Policy. If we can clone them, bring back a new set of Rice, Taylor, Montana, Craig, Rathman, Lott, Norton Jr, Stubblefield, Young (Bryant and Steve), Jones, Hanks, Waters, Haley. Oh the good old days....

San Fran is in the crappiest division in football. 7-9 may be enough to win it.

With any luck hopefully the Raiders may finally be out of mediocrity. JC actually finally looks like a legit game manager, DMC is an early candidate for MVP if he can stay healthy, and Moore could be Rookie of the Year if he keeps this up. The D needs to play better though. I'm afraid Brady may throw for 600+ this week.

I wish they could figure out how to pack more commercials into a game. Maybe if they gave each team 10 challenges?

Is it just me or does everyone love to see the bogus pass interference, holding, illegal touching the QB, etc. calls? Makes the game so interesting. If there is a game that is more in the hands of the refs, I'm not sure what it is. Oh wait, that would be NBA "basketball".

Commercials take way too much time. A one hour game takes over three hours thanks to commercials and TV timeouts. Even worse in college football games. Just air fewer commercials and jack up the advertising costs. I won't miss the military, sodas, cars, insurance, banking ads.

Um, yeah I think the Pats are gonna be really pissed after a whole week of Belicheck treatment.

Any Cowgirls or Foreskins fans out there want to explain what the hell that was last night? That was pure fugly football is what that was...

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Didn't watch the game but apparently Romo's center couldn't hear him call the signals (?) Was really sad to see my 'phins lose by one @#$%ing point, but hearing that the Patriots lost made me feel better.

lolololololololol. terrible o-line but please, there is no way the iggles win anything less than 11

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11 wins isn't going to happen in that division, and I think they play the AFC East (Pats, Jets, Bills) out of division as well. And if Vick keeps getting hurt due to that weak o-line then 7-9 is very possible.

Um, that means they only get 3 losses for the rest of the year! JBF#1 called it right - NFC E has a tough schedule and Vick is going to get pounded, plus Reed doesn't run the ball, plus the Beagles are horrible in the red zone. I'm looking forward to this..

Watching the end of the MLB regular season brings up one more thing I hate about the NFL. At the end of the season, teams tank (especially the ones already in the playoffs).....they actually announce they will tank, and the fans / media, everyone is 100% fine with it.

They could learn a little something about respecting the game from MLB.

Watching the end of the MLB regular season brings up one more thing I hate about the NFL. At the end of the season, teams tank (especially the ones already in the playoffs).....they actually announce they will tank, and the fans / media, everyone is 100% fine with it.

They could learn a little something about respecting the game from MLB.

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Respecting the game?Like Jose Reyes?

MLB teams rest stars too. Yankees used 11 pitchers to not burn out for the playoffs. Boston and especially Atlanta just choked badly.

There's no perfect solution. NFL added all divisional games for Week 17 which helps somewhat, but moot if the division is already decided.

Amen that. There is no lead too big that he can't throw away. Does he know that throwing the ball to the other team is not a good thing?

Niners GOATing. Alex Smith is the chosen one.

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Not sure about chosen one, but he stayed patient and came through in the second half for sure. Where was that vaunted Beagles defensive backfield? No picks I believe. I so hope the Eagles go into a tailspin this year.

The Vikings are well on their way to a #1 pick with McNabb at the helm. When McNabb was at Philly I could never understand the acclaim that the local media used to shower on him. His lack of skills were obscured by having a great catching running back and good recievers. They would somehow catch a good number of those passes thrown 3 yds behind them. At the Redskins he didn't have that support and his lack of skill was revealed.

Looks like Harbaugh won't need Andrew Luck next year. BTW where do you guys think Luck will wind up? I say he's a Viking next year.

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Vikings already have Ponder, even though I'm not sold on him as being that good, they did take a 1st round pick on him. Then again, that didn't stop Carolina the year after they drafted Claussen to take Newton.

Don't for get about Miami, or as I've seen them referred to, the LOLphins. Miami, Indy, KC are the frontrunners. I refuse to think Minnesota can be that bad w/ a guy as good as Adrian Peterson.

Don't look now, but Buffalo has a shot at the division. NYJ are gagging big time, and they already beat NE once. If only they could play all of their games at home, they seem to be invincible in Buffalo. And they only have 7 'home' games since one of their games will be in Toronto.

This is the year of the laughing stocks - Buffalo, San Fran, Detroit, Washington, and Oakland all look solid, while Philly, Indy, NYJ, Minnesota and Dallas are all, as Drunk Joe Namath would say, STRUGG-A-LING.

Don't look now, but Buffalo has a shot at the division. NYJ are gagging big time, and they already beat NE once. If only they could play all of their games at home, they seem to be invincible in Buffalo. And they only have 7 'home' games since one of their games will be in Toronto.

This is the year of the laughing stocks - Buffalo, San Fran, Detroit, Washington, and Oakland all look solid, while Philly, Indy, NYJ, Minnesota and Dallas are all, as Drunk Joe Namath would say, STRUGG-A-LING.

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I'm loving it. Always good to see Philly and Dallas doing badly. Love what I'm seeing from Detroit and Buffalo.

If the season ended today (which of course it doesn't), all 8 divisions would have different division champs from last year. NE and BUF are tied, but Buffalo holds the TB since they beat NE. KC, Indy, and Pittsburgh aren't leading, and Philly, Chicago, Atlanta, and Seattle are the others not leading who won their division last year.

I'm loving it. Always good to see Philly and Dallas doing badly. Love what I'm seeing from Detroit and Buffalo.

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Yup, I like to see the Beagles and Cowgirls suck almost as much as the Gmen winning. Big Blue might take the NFC E by attrition.

The Lions looked great against Da Bears last night. Calvin Johnson is a stud. Their D line is a 9-headed monster. You could plainly see that they got the mojo going. Let's see if they can keep it going when the going gets tough.

Been a 49er's fan since the mid '50's, suffering thru endless years of frustration, then in the mid '80's, some jubilation, then more frustration.
Don't need playoffs to be happy, just need a competitive team, a chance in most games, and some skill and coaching.
Looks close this year, and every team that wins the shebang goes thru fits and starts, hoping to peak near the end of the regular season with momentum going into the playoffs.
Starting strong is great, but finishing strong is much more important.

Get ready for Touchdown Timmy Tebow. New starting QB for the Broncs. Can't wait to see this. He's already a hero in Denver and all of that based on a 4-of-10, 79-yard passing, 2 TD's. But he was screaming & yelling all the way!
Where's my Cheeto's and Beer? This is gonna be fun.

Get ready for Touchdown Timmy Tebow. New starting QB for the Broncs. Can't wait to see this. He's already a hero in Denver and all of that based on a 4-of-10, 79-yard passing, 2 TD's. But he was screaming & yelling all the way!
Where's my Cheeto's and Beer? This is gonna be fun.

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They used a 1st round pick on him, so they might as well see what he's got. I don't get why Tebow is so hated by so many football fans. He's never seemed like a cocky guy to me. The media does hype him up, but it is what it is.

They used a 1st round pick on him, so they might as well see what he's got. I don't get why Tebow is so hated by so many football fans. He's never seemed like a cocky guy to me. The media does hype him up, but it is what it is.

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I just like the Pete Sampras, John Stockton, Jerry Rice types better. Just quietly get it done on the field.

Fed Kennedy, thanks for the Joe Montana picture (I had a major crush on him when I was in middle school!!!). I'll have to watch this Tebow kid play. Not sure if we should start comparing him to John Elway..... JB fan-sorry to hear about Al Davis' death.

Anybody good at making picks? I'm just picking them randomly against the spread and doing terribly in my pool. SOSSSSSSS

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Wait, you're picking AGAINST the spread? If this is a straight-up pool the spread is a good starting point as to who to choose. If there is a 14 pt spread on a game, even if you loose the game in an unbelievable underdog win, so will most of the others in your pool. The key is picking the low spread winners, and one or two underdogs. Spread, movement in spread, injuries, play styles, recent W/L trends, strengths/weaknesses on both sides of the ball, and recent performances of key personnel (game changers), are all variable to look at.

Wait, you're picking AGAINST the spread? If this is a straight-up pool the spread is a good starting point as to who to choose. If there is a 14 pt spread on a game, even if you loose the game in an unbelievable underdog win, so will most of the others in your pool. The key is picking the low spread winners, and one or two underdogs. Spread, movement in spread, injuries, play styles, recent W/L trends, strengths/weaknesses on both sides of the ball, and recent performances of key personnel (game changers), are all variable to look at.

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I mean I have to take into consideration the spread, it's not a straight pick em. For example if a very good team is playing a bad team, they are often favoured by 14 points or more, in which case if you pick the favourite they have to win by at least that many points. That really makes every game almost 50-50, which is of course how Vegas makes its money.

Tebow has good mobility, a decent runner, a passable arm, and very smart.
Vick has the first 3 in spades, and the opposition is crushing him week after week until he really get's injured.
Don't want Tebow to go thru the crushing. I'd think running from a 250 lbs linebacker who's as fast as a DB would discourage running.

Tebow has good mobility, a decent runner, a passable arm, and very smart.
Vick has the first 3 in spades, and the opposition is crushing him week after week until he really get's injured.
Don't want Tebow to go thru the crushing. I'd think running from a 250 lbs linebacker who's as fast as a DB would discourage running.

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Vick's offensive line is horrible this year, that has more to do with him getting crushed. Don't know how Denver's O-Line is though, but the Eagles have one of the worse in the NFL.

Pretty acknowledged that the Colts have the worst O line.
When you have bad pass protection, you don't run around in the pocket looking for 4th and 5th alternatives.
Part of the reason for the 49'ers success is that Smith gets rid of the ball ala Peyton.
When Smith tries to make something happens, he get's hit and fumbles, throw IT's, or misses by a mile.
You know, the classic 3 step drop and THROW THE BALL. Slants, outs, and fly's give the receivers a fair chance to catch a bad throw.

When you have bad pass protection, you don't run around in the pocket looking for 4th and 5th alternatives.
Part of the reason for the 49'ers success is that Smith gets rid of the ball ala Peyton.
When Smith tries to make something happens, he get's hit and fumbles, throw IT's, or misses by a mile.
You know, the classic 3 step drop and THROW THE BALL. Slants, outs, and fly's give the receivers a fair chance to catch a bad throw.

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When you have bad pass protection, sometimes the defenders are still on you after 3 steps. Do you know how fast some of these D-linemen are? It's not as simple as you make it sound, or else anyone could play QB in the NFL. Even after Vick's getting rid of the ball he's getting crushed because of the weak o-line.

I sorta DO know what it's like playing QB.
JV, I was OLB, blindside, desinated pass rusher.
Both years Varsity, strong side LB, QB's face, and once again, my only responsibility was to rush the passer and contain sweeps my side.

And they also have Kerry Collins. I suffered through 5 brutal years with him.

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Hey, don't remind me of how horrible Kerry Collins is. At least he didn't leave your team and then decide to be good all of a sudden - leaves Oakland after sucking and then leads Tennessee to the playoffs.

Raiders have a history of that - Moss stunk here then decides he wants to play in NE (granted when you have Tom Brady throwing to you instead of the aforementioned Collins, it's understandable); Charles Woodson was good here, then looked like he was losing a step, but goes to GB and helps lead them to a SB title; DeAngelo Hall was garbage, then goes to Wash and is still garbage, but at least contributes from time to time.