On a table or seat,I think the real issue is that children don't belong every single place that adults do.I can remember having my grandma watch my
sister and I due to my parents going out to eat and kids weren't allowed there.Our society has become one that thinks that if its okay for me to go
there its okay for my kids no matter they're age to go as well.I see people drag kids into malls,restaurants,movies, even parties acting like it
should be no big deal that they're small children are there. You can't seem to go anywhere anymore without someones child screaming at the top of
they're lungs acting up.

When my mom had to change my younger siblings she took them out to the car and did so in the seat there.I too have raised two kids and I know that
sometimes your kids can leave you in a dilemma,but thats what your supposed to have common sense for.To weigh things out and think of the 'best'
solution.Not the easiest for you.

And I guess by they're further actions show that they were inconsiderate people to begin with anyway.Pouring coffee on the floor because something
was said to you? comon how childish.If anything the parents should have apologized to the people around them for the smell.

Then take the 3 dollar chocolate milk and other 'kids menu' items off. It's Starbucks not a 5 star restaurant. If I am dropping 200 bucks on a nice
dinner I would rather not have a baby screaming but would it ruin my meal..no.

Throwing coffee on the ground, a bit dumb, but better customer service would have gone a lot farther.

Again, poor judgment on the parents but if one of those skinny jean wearing 'tough guy' baristas said something to my wife he would have
'accidentally' worn the coffee.

You mean to say that if your wife is clearly in the wrong and somebody calls her out, you will chimp out and physically assault them? Guess who sets
the rules in a place of business; the proprietor, and if at any time you disobey the rules any shop owner has the right to refuse you service and ask
you to leave. Use your head, man, not some bogus machismo.

Look, I don't agree with changing your kid in the dining room, but acting like kids shouldn't be allowed in Starbucks is just stupid. It's
Starbucks not the freaking Stockyard people. We aren't talking fine dining, we are talking generic coffee drink pitstops.

I always carried a small mat in my diaper bag just in case I ran into a place without a changing station. Just pop the mat down on the floor in the
bathroom and you are good to go.

You say throwing coffee on the ground is a bit dumb, yet you wanna be macho and say if one of the workers doing their job said something to your wife,
the " tough guy" would be wearing it? Alright "tough guy", the employees aren't paid to clean your kids fecal matter off the booth/table. Tough
guy, if your wife and yourself came to my restaurant and changed your kids nasty ### on my table/booth, I'd do the same thing. You should try it,
throwing a hot coffee on a employee who didn't do ####. I'd like to know just how tough you are.

How do all you fools even know there WAS # in the diaper?or that she didnt put a change pad/towel down on the seat first?
What if it was just a pissy diaper?
Would THAT soothe your delicate sensibilities?
Give a MOM a break...........you have no sense of reality....

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Dont you realise a whole lot of arseholes are constantly just a piece of cloth away from the seat?
People fart !

It's poor form resulting from poor judgement, case closed. And believe it or not, city health inspectors issue fines for things like this. You think
it's unreasonable that a cafe has an "Everyone keeps their pants on in the service room" rule?

Movies are the absolute worst. Can't tell you how many good horror movies I've been to where a child ruined my experience. Who takes children to a
movie meant to scare the pants off an adult anyways! Haha

1. It is not the best choice to change a diaper in a fast food coffee shop. (It is not a restaurant). but sometimes you have too. Personally I have
changed my kids by holding them on my upper thigh and changing them with one arm in a bathroom stall. Not that hard for a guy with basic coordination.
That is why I would have done or go to our car.
2. throwing coffee is childish. Kind of like 'threatening' someone. If you are going to do it, just do it. Don't play games.
3. If someone said something to my wife and she felt uncomfortable about there would be a problem because I am not afraid to say something to anyone.
This is not being macho or a tough guy. I would have said you did not have to throw it at her in this instance and ask to see a manager. If one of the
workers acted like a fool, well, who knows what would happen but I can assure you I am not afraid to hit first and ask questions later. Just how I
grew up. Nothing macho.
4. If Throwing a rag at someone is acceptable in your restaurant than you fit the same class of crummy customer service establishments and your
clientele will show that.

Is that clear enough for you? I would not throw coffee on the floor but if I felt they were being inconsiderate to my wife I would say something and
where it went it would. Again, there is nothing macho about that, it is called being a man and not allowing people to treat your family like garbage
no matter the situation.

So, please tell me where your restaurant is, I travel quite a bit and would love to stop by and discuss your feelings as well as your 'tough guy'
internet attitude. I will even come alone without a #ty diaper

Frequent restaurants that are not kid friendly if you like. You call ahead for reservation so ask. My wife and I do. Like I said, if I went out to
eat, I am enjoying the meal and the company not concerned with what is around me. A crying baby in a nice restaurant is not pleasant but everyone is
entilted to eat where they want. Eating out is not a privilege or a right...it is a choice. Like flying.

Which is why we do not eat out with our little kids if I go to a nice restaurant. You cannot enjoy the meal. You want to enjoy the company and the
food and not the glares from people while your child screams.

This thread is about a Starbucks though. A fast food coffee shop that has a kids menu. That is basically how, if you do not want to eat around
children, should filter where you eat. If they have a kids menu, expect kids. If not, then you should not have kids there. I have been in wine bars
that offer tapas and people have screaming infants. Annoying, yes, but not enough to ruin my meal and evening.

as a parent i say boo boo to multibillion dollar coffee franchise that is too bloody cheap to install a diaper changing table in their restrooms come
on you charge 6 bucks a cup of 35 cent cup of coffee but can't afford a 40 dolloar changing table for each store.

1. Congrats! I commend your parenting skills and taking your kid to the bathroom! Problem solved, had the woman had the common sense to do the same,
her issue would be non existent.

2. Its childish? I do recall you just saying something about throwing coffee on a tough guy, no? So, therefore your childish? Clearly, I can smell the
macho essence over here in NC.

3. Your not afraid to say something? Me either! Saying something is fine, assaulting someone with hot coffee isn't. The self preservation mechanism
trigger on said assaulted person, would be perfectly fine. However, speaking to a manager would be the responsible grown up thing to do, but alas,
your much to mach for that, thus your need to say you wanna throw coffee at the guy. How Neanderthal-ish.

4. I don't own a restaurant bub, hypothetical situation, comprehend?

Explain to me, how tossing a rag at someone telling them to clean up is treating them like garbage? You clean your kids dirty butt when im enjoying my
meal? Well sir, I feel you just treated me and every other patron like garbage imo. Should I be a man and instigate a fight in front of your family? I
think not, I'm no Neanderthal

I'd like to point out what you said, "kind of like threatening someone, just do it, dont play games" Care to take your own advice? I can smell the
loathing you have for me because I challenged your machoism.

There is one difference between us for sure. I don't "hit first ask questions later" I was raised, and trained better. I only defend myself, and I
do it however is needed. That's how I was raised.

It used to be you, or another adult, could smack your kid in public for badmouthing. You could yell at a kid in public. Force the kid via dragging him
by the ears out of the store. It was normal. It was what a parent had to do that was necessary. So we should all decide to band against this mother
for doing what all mothers need to do to care for their kid. Changing the feces out of a diaper is as normal as feeding and burping the baby but
America has become the free-est and least free country of the world at the same time. We live in the country where mothers with babies should be
discouraged from entering any public place whatsoever and god-forbid the baby need to be changed. BUt we are free enough to videotape a pronstar
blowing an audience member on the steps of a Jerry Springer show.

Well, I'm glad we can agree here! I would like to do a grown up thing here. After getting quite frustrated myself, I calmed down as I wrote. I
attacked you with my first post as well as the last ( though it felt more justified) over a difference of opinion. I regret my attitude as I don't
know you, but anger seeps through us all from time to time.

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