They set the rules of the game and we all play by that rules. If they were not Gods they would not last long. There is alot of evidence that they are Gods. If you knew that you are God and that everyone elso is the same as you would you tell them? It makes sense to keep people in ignorance because if they don't search for truth they do not deserve to know anyway.

Quoting: eScrew

They don't "set" the rules. They IMPOSE the rules.

If you don't follow it, they jail you. Or MURDER you.

While having "laws" against MURDER.

They are hypocrites.

Murderers.

No wonder they are into SCAT so much.

SCAT EATING "GODS".

You can worship them shill.

Train your "role playing" ROLE in this pathetic theater that is GLP...

I know it is hard to find dignified work in such system, so you must give in.

I am a Mason. All the Masons I know are good hardworking people that are trying to be beneficial to the community.I also don't bad-mouth other peoples chosen belief systems.

Quoting: 5th Generation Mason 224590

And your probably a great guy, honest, I believe you.

My friend, you've been hoodwinked by a band of professional liars, who's legacy has been carried for generations upon generations, and originates from the father of the lie.

The higher-uppers screwed you. Wake up. There's no "left" or "right" hand path, Nazis and Jews are just heads or tails of the Orobouros- Satan's system. You have been delphied by these liars to percieve polarised entities that force you into making a dialectically driven decisions between which one of them is the "good" and which one is "bad" side.

Like white and black magic, the Bible denounces both, and both have the same source.

"All this was inspired by the principle--which is quite true in itself--that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotionalnature than consciously or voluntarily, and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they are more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in tha art of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest purposes."

After reading a lot of far-out conspiracies recently the question popped into my head 'What if the Illuminati are actually the good guys?' They can be traced back to the knights templar who were nearly wiped out by the catholic churchs lust for power. Now I have come to the conclusion that the catholic church (and pretty much all organised religion) are the bad guys who exercise a huge amount of control over us. History shows they have been responsible for some pretty horrendous acts in the past eg, the crusades, the inquistion, i've never been able to understand killing people in the name of god!?!

Sovereign states, politics & religion have been responsible for untold misery throughout history and more so today than ever. So IS getting rid of these systems really a bad thing?

After reading a lot of far-out conspiracies recently the question popped into my head 'What if the Illuminati are actually the good guys?' They can be traced back to the knights templar who were nearly wiped out by the catholic churchs lust for power. Now I have come to the conclusion that the catholic church (and pretty much all organised religion) are the bad guys who exercise a huge amount of control over us. History shows they have been responsible for some pretty horrendous acts in the past eg, the crusades, the inquistion, i've never been able to understand killing people in the name of god!?!

Sovereign states, politics & religion have been responsible for untold misery throughout history and more so today than ever. So IS getting rid of these systems really a bad thing?

i think the higher level masons and illuminati are aware of the ancient knowledge that most of the worlds religious myths are based upon. i think the reason many church leaders incite the ignorant masses' fears is because if the ignorant masses became aware they were being "sheep-herded and fleeched" in the name of God, then the priests rabbi, and shieks would lose their control and source of income and support.

while the ignorant masses celebrate the mythological, the masons and illuminati celebrate the ancient science.

the term "occult" has a different meaning to the "illuminated" mind than it has for the ignorant, fundamentalist mind.

as above, so below.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 128475

I agree with you.My father was a high level Mason, from a long line of dedicated, practicing Freemasons, and he was an extraordinary man who lived a very ordinary life. After reading a lot of the conspiracy theories concerning Masons, I cannot see any resemblance between the genuine Masons I have known and those who would participate in any of the weirdness talked about here.

I suspect, as with organized religion today, the Masonic Lodge is rife with self-serving members simply using the fraternity as a "good old boy" network to promote their own agendas. Those dedicated to knowledge (as opposed to those seeking personal power), who do the most good in the world, rarely seek the spotlight of recognition. Nor do they waste their time trying to correct the misconceptions of those speaking out of fear and ignorance.

MOST freemasons do NOT know and are not enlightened in regards to what is REALLLLY going on. However, having said this..THE ILLUMINATI are good. THe fact is the most of the people in the world are not willing to be responsible. Call them sheeple or whatever..but all they want to do is sit back and do nothing and expect to get everything in regards. You know, the whole free lunch thing. We the people Willingly give our power over to the illuminati and therefore are slaves to them. We are not willing to go out and hunt for ourselves...and nature says that you need to do something to survive. We take out loans and feel so high and mighty, instead of working and working and saving up. So we are slaves to them because they understand the basic laws of nature. That is why so many people have to die. because we would not survive if it was not for them. Very simple stuff. lots of info on this now on the net. We complain but secretly know and love the fact that they give us our homes, our food, etc.... Make no mistake about it...they are not evil or bad. They are the REASON why you and so comfy in your own home. and they TELL you and GIVE you Warnings about what they are going to do and YET you NEVER get it..or better yet you get it but DONT WANT to admit that you understand. DEEP down inside you love being slaves because you are not wiling to go out and take care of yourself. So you give your power over to the state, the illuminati, give up your rights, guns, so on... The illuminati are good. MOst people are greedy and lazy. They only survive because the illuminati FEED them.

I've always wondered this exact same thing. My grandpa was a mason and he was a good man and helped alot in his community. Now, thats not to say that there might be some bad apples in their ranks, but nonetheless it could very well be the opposite of what the majority think. And thats usually how it is. Remember, supposably there will be a great deception... The conventional belief about the masons/etc. could be one element in this deception.

Masons started out as a good brotherhood of humans looking for the mysteries of humankind. But soon degenerated in a reunion of dark souls looking for profit and elitism and slavery of themselves first and the others after.

Just now they are deceived in their own dreams and worshipping invented and non-existent gods.

I’ve begun worshipping the sun for a number of reasons. First of all, unlike some other gods I could mention, I can see the sun. It’s there for me every day, and the things it brings me are quite apparent all the time: heat, light, food, a lovely day. There’s no mystery, no one asks for money, I don’t have to dress up, and there’s no boring pageantry. And interestingly enough, I have found that the prayers I offer to the sun and the prayers I formerly offered to “God” are all answered at about the same 50-percent rate.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 132725

you did a good job of fucking up this quote from goerge carlins comedy actbut good point

If they were the good guys, they wouldn't need to operate in the background.

Quoting: yankees

They're the hero the World deserves, but not the one it needs right now…and so we'll hunt them…because they can take it…because they're not our hero… they're our silent guardians, our watchful protectors… Our Dark Knights.

If they were the good guys, they wouldn't need to operate in the background.

Quoting: yankees

well... they say satan is the ruler of this world... so one who wishes to work against him would be best kept hidden

I WILL NOT let consequences dictate my course of action!

A.K.A - Aresh, Awakened Me, An Ominous Coward (Howard), The Goddess Pandora, Aumon Haht Fith Ashai, Within The Flower and a few others...------------------------------------

In all things, i am flowing back thru and in and out, within and without and beyond them.

This is the Cosm. This is both I and You.

I am the Truth, and I am the Lie - I am the very spark of the Divine!

------------------as soon as you even go near these things your ego knows what it is.. its all like "what ya gonna do with that?" "Hope you not gonna take it" "cause i will throw myself down on the floor and scratch, claw and bite and tantrum" - Kyuubi

"the gift of love makes much more sense than frankincense gold and myrhh" - Only Me

Masons stand for brotherhood, liberty, and equal rights. They were supposedly instrumental in the French Revolution as well as the American Rev. They value courage and integrity and except for renegades are working for Light and Truth.

If they were the good guys, they wouldn't need to operate in the background.

They have knowledge which can not be revealed to those who are not ready for it. Thus they have the right for secrecy.

Quoting: eScrew

I agree with you. Very few has understanding to accept higher information. Secrecy is good until humanity is ready to accept information, but people are not ready for it yet. I also understand, without TPTB world could be in bigger mess than it is.

Without TPTB(illuminati) power struggle could destroy this planet, it is good someone is in control and taking care of things and doesnt let planet earth get destroyed. Good example what could happen without TPTB is Roman empire, every second year emperor was assassinated. Without TPTB everyone were free to get piece of power and kill whoever they wanted to.

Lis of fate of emperors. As you can see, without permanent power hierarchy, power struggle will cause lot of chaos and mess.....but people are unable to see things from this point of view and I cannot blame them. Everything has a purpose...and few are chosen to control herd...