I have been thinking of getting a rimfire purely to be used as a survival rifle (could be pistol also but it would have less effective range)... what would you all recommend?

So far I own a Kimber 22LR Super Varmint, Ruger Single Six hunter and a old LR snuby.. the Kimber is to "pretty" to be used as a survival rifle, but t he ruger is all stainless steel and built like a TANK (and really accurate too), there is no question it could be used in survival situations BUT I would rather a rifle.

By far the most important feature to be is reliability, it should be able to function under harsh conditions... what do you all think of the AR6 that springfield sells? Looks real ungly but it's a tool and I don't care about looks, I want to know that it works!

May 11th, 2009, 02:17 PM

SIXTO

The AR7 is a neat little gun, but it has soome issues IMO for a survival tool. First, its a semi auto. It requires a magazine and will not function well with all ammo. (thats not a AR7 issue, its a semi auto issue) It has more breakable and moving parts.
If it were me, I'd very much prefer a bolt action rifle like a Marlin offering. It can shoot any 22LR ammo you scrounge and is not prone to jamming with dirty or out of spec ammo. The down side is size, not much can beat the compact storage of the AR7.

Savage makes a nifty gun, 22LR and shotgun combo... but its heavy.

May 11th, 2009, 03:12 PM

First Sgt

Do some research on a Remington Nylon 66. I think you might be surprised at the comments on this lil rifle. Very light, minimal to NO maintenance required. Very dependable. Eats any and all ammo like it's starving to death. As a survival rifle would be ideal. Do I have one....YES! Do I like it...YES! Do I have other .22 rifles...YES! But the other rifles are all heavier, require cleaning materials, and have wood stocks. Remington Nylon 66 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia or try this one as well http://www.americanrifleman.org/rifl...cal_Rem66.html

May 11th, 2009, 03:48 PM

cphilip

The gun I chose as the survival rifle is both. A Shotgun and a Rifle. One of the Stevens or Savage over under combo's makes a great dependable survival rifle.

May 11th, 2009, 04:18 PM

Tom G

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Originally Posted by cphilip

The gun I chose as the survival rifle is both. A Shotgun and a Rifle. One of the Stevens or Savage over under combo's makes a great dependable survival rifle.

I owned one of these and they are great little guns. It's nice to have the option of a rifle or a shot gun on the same frame.:smile:

Actually, if you have checked the going prices on a vintage Remington NYLON 66 these days they are quite collectible and desirable and are not the "inexpensive" lightweight rifle that they used to be.
The stock is hollow Nylon. Carrying one is like walking around with a feather.

A fantastic little Survival .22 though if you are lucky enough to have one. :yup:

In an austere environment, my 1st choice would be a bolt action with a fixed internal mag and a double action revolver. (pump would be the next choice, o/u next, lever last) I would not choose a semi-auto for this purpose, period.

You may not be able to clean stuff much, and need something that will run dirty, but if you can clean it, you want something easy to clean. Secondly, you don't want a magazine or mag tube rod that can get lost, leaving you with a single shot.

Revolvers are easy to maintain as well, and again, you can't lose the mag if you aint got one.

JMO-YMMV.

BTW: My Dad keeps a Savage O/U (22/20ga) with him at all times behind the seat of his truck. It has a space in the stock for spare ammo, with a little trap door that opens. It would certainly do as well, but the disadvange is that it's only a two shooter.

May 11th, 2009, 10:16 PM

TWO GUNS

I would go for a Winchester 9422.

May 11th, 2009, 11:02 PM

jhh3rd

Seems like the Thompson/Center would give you many options. Being a breech loader, it would eliminate magazines, tubes and what-not and feed problems would be a non-starter issue.

May 11th, 2009, 11:39 PM

CR2008

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Originally Posted by sgtD

In an austere environment, my 1st choice would be a bolt action with a fixed internal mag and a double action revolver. (pump would be the next choice, o/u next, lever last) I would not choose a semi-auto for this purpose, period.

You may not be able to clean stuff much, and need something that will run dirty, but if you can clean it, you want something easy to clean. Secondly, you don't want a magazine or mag tube rod that can get lost, leaving you with a single shot.

Revolvers are easy to maintain as well, and again, you can't lose the mag if you aint got one.

JMO-YMMV.

BTW: My Dad keeps a Savage O/U (22/20ga) with him at all times behind the seat of his truck. It has a space in the stock for spare ammo, with a little trap door that opens. It would certainly do as well, but the disadvantage is that it's only a two shooter.

That's why I was thinking I already have something that could be used in such a situation, the Ruger Single six in stainless steel... and it's accuracy can actually rival some rimfire rifles... but it would be harder to shoot because of no shoulder stock (but is so compact that it could be used as a 2nd gun to a survival rifle)

THe double shotgun/rimfire seems to be the most useful but concerned about the size of it overall... what about a TC contender or encore, how about that as a survival gun? (interchangeable barrels and it compact)

May 11th, 2009, 11:41 PM

CR2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhh3rd

Seems like the Thompson/Center would give you many options. Being a breech loader, it would eliminate magazines, tubes and what-not and feed problems would be a non-starter issue.

I came to that conclusion myself... I saw one and it was very accurate and versatile... I may just look for one in the weeks to come.

May 11th, 2009, 11:49 PM

PcMakr

I would have to vote for the Nylon 66 also. I've had mine since they came out and have never had a lick of trouble with it. Still an accurate little rifle. Would also think the Marlin 39A is a very dependable rifle and can be broken down into a smaller package. Marlin also makes or used to make a rifle called the Papoose, that was designed for backpacking, etc., and the case was designed to keep the gun afloat if it went into the water.

May 11th, 2009, 11:49 PM

Thumper

Of all the .22 rifles I have owned, the Ruger 10/22 was without a doubt the best. (I need to replace that!) My favorite choice for a .22 pistol is a S&W Model 617 4". Shoots like a dream. :smile:

May 12th, 2009, 08:41 AM

simon

I have a Rossi pump action...standard model.Really a tuff little rifle...breaks apart for easy cleaning,good shooter!Been with me for over 30 years,my firewood-cutting gun if you will...my choice,my .02