<quoted text>CO2 is only one half of the greenhouse emissions to be concerned about that cause global warming.Methane (CH4) and the oxides of Nitrogen (NO, NO2, N20) are the other half as well.The basic problem is the liberation of carbon from the long term pool. I.E. the burning of fossil fuels.Storing carbon is a short term pool - plantlife - doesnt solve the problem obviously because of the relatively rapid turnoverIronically, we have discussed the carbon cycle on this very forum before - including the C3, C4 stuff and the ability of plant to grow more - so Volunteerist CANT claim this is a NEW idea.

yada yada yada the earth was warmer in the past than it is now, this is just another means of control by the liberal freaks.

<quoted text>standard fundamentalist argumentHughbe blames it all on satanequal amount of data for either of those explanations

rabbee: well call me what you want about it, frijoles crazy insane or fundamentalist. but i have spoken, to G-D about it. so i have HaShem G-D'S Input about it all.

and how can you blame anything on hasatan, when G-D gave hasatan all his instructions? who is in charge of his enemies, as well as baal hamolech, and halooseefer. who all also receive their instructions from HaShem.

but if you look long enough, if you measure a sufficient number of attributes, and if you are highly selective, you can eventually find statistical evidence to prove or disprove any claim.

so do not ask of me, to represent any of you liars against G-D. here in TheTorah Accounting, all happening again.

rabbee: well pissing off G-D, certainly is of no help to this world. and it ain't going to get, any of us into GanEden either. as G-D has a greater influence on this world here in TheTorah than you could ever imagine.

The madness that was Iraq War, listen from the Horse' Mouth Now Part-2

Update: The Iraq War Ledger

A Look at the War’s Human, Financial, and Strategic Costs

Matthew Duss and Peter Juul December 2011

10. Before turning to those tables and charts, however, we would like to make two additional points

.11. First, it is critical to remember the shifting justifications for the U.S. intervention in Iraq.

12. The Iraq invasion was sold to the American public on the basis of Saddam Hussein’s supposed possession of weapons of mass destruction and his alleged relationship with Al Qaeda.

13. When both claims turned out to be false, the Bush administration justified the intervention on the idea that a democratic Iraq would be an ally in the “war on terror” and an inspiration for democratic reform in the Middle East. These arguments remain, at best, highly questionable.

14. Second, the authors would like to make clear that this analysis of the costs of the Iraq war in no way diminishes the sacrifice, courage, and honor displayed by the U.S. military in Iraq.

15. Americans troops have served and died in Iraq at the behest of the American people and two of their commanders-in-chief. This is why it is important to draw the correct lessons from our nation’s invasion of Iraq. In order to do that, its costs must be examined honestly and rigorously.

CO2 & Temperature (also see Temperature Record)The ice-core data is frequently cited as principal evidence toargue that CO2 is the earth’s main climate driver. It is, in away, the jewel in the crown of the theory of man made globalwarming. But the ice-core data does not show that CO2 drivesclimate. It shows, very clearly, that variations in temperatureprecede rises in atmospheric CO2 – not the other way round.The two phenomena are divided by a time lag of severalhundred years.There is no evidence that CO2 has ever ‘driven’ the climate inthe past, nor is there any compelling evidence that it is doingso now.According to global warming theory, if an enhancedgreenhouse effect (from increased levels of CO2 or indeed anyother greenhouse gas) is responsible for warming the earth,then the rate of temperature rise should be greatest in that partof the earth’s atmosphere known as the troposphere,specifically in the tropics. And yet the observations, fromweather balloons and satellites have consistently shown thatnot to be the case. I urge readers to look at the Christy et alpapers below. The latest one was recently published in theJournal of Geophysical Research (2007). This may seem like arather technical issue, but it strikes at the very heart of thetheory of man made global warming.The Myth of Dangerous Human-Caused Climate ChangeRead MoreTropospheric temperature change since 1979 from tropicalradiosonde and satellite measurements”– John R. Chirsty,William B.Norris, Roy W. Spencer, Justin J. Hnilo Journal ofGeophysical Research, VOL. 112, D06102Read Morehttp://www.greatglobalwarmingswindle.co.uk/co...

<quoted text>CO2 & Temperature (also see Temperature Record)The ice-core data is frequently cited as principal evidence toargue that CO2 is the earth’s main climate driver. It is, in away, the jewel in the crown of the theory of man made globalwarming. But the ice-core data does not show that CO2 drivesclimate. It shows, very clearly, that variations in temperatureprecede rises in atmospheric CO2 – not the other way round.The two phenomena are divided by a time lag of severalhundred years.There is no evidence that CO2 has ever ‘driven’ the climate inthe past, nor is there any compelling evidence that it is doingso now.According to global warming theory, if an enhancedgreenhouse effect (from increased levels of CO2 or indeed anyother greenhouse gas) is responsible for warming the earth,then the rate of temperature rise should be greatest in that partof the earth’s atmosphere known as the troposphere,specifically in the tropics. And yet the observations, fromweather balloons and satellites have consistently shown thatnot to be the case. I urge readers to look at the Christy et alpapers below. The latest one was recently published in theJournal of Geophysical Research (2007). This may seem like arather technical issue, but it strikes at the very heart of thetheory of man made global warming.The Myth of Dangerous Human-Caused Climate ChangeRead MoreTropospheric temperature change since 1979 from tropicalradiosonde and satellite measurements”– John R. Chirsty,William B.Norris, Roy W. Spencer, Justin J. Hnilo Journal ofGeophysical Research, VOL. 112, D06102Read Morehttp://www.greatglobalwarmingswindle.co.uk/co...

In other words you didnt read my post

I will be happy to respond if you read my post and address it accordingly

http://www.scribd.com/doc/7560 6978The madness that was Iraq War, listen from the Horse' Mouth Now Part-2Update: The Iraq War LedgerA Look at the War’s Human, Financial, and Strategic CostsMatthew Duss and Peter Juul December 201110. Before turning to those tables and charts, however, we would like to make two additional points.11. First, it is critical to remember the shifting justifications for the U.S. intervention in Iraq.12. The Iraq invasion was sold to the American public on the basis of Saddam Hussein’s supposed possession of weapons of mass destruction and his alleged relationship with Al Qaeda.13. When both claims turned out to be false, the Bush administration justified the intervention on the idea that a democratic Iraq would be an ally in the “war on terror” and an inspiration for democratic reform in the Middle East. These arguments remain, at best, highly questionable.14. Second, the authors would like to make clear that this analysis of the costs of the Iraq war in no way diminishes the sacrifice, courage, and honor displayed by the U.S. military in Iraq.15. Americans troops have served and died in Iraq at the behest of the American people and two of their commanders-in-chief. This is why it is important to draw the correct lessons from our nation’s invasion of Iraq. In order to do that, its costs must be examined honestly and rigorously.(Contd.)

What is your objective with this series?

The majority of Americans already know that the Iraqi war was a fiasco. And the minority that do not believe this will never be convinced.

The author of The Yoga Vashishta asserts that the world is relative to the mind and must therefore be mental in basal character if the possibility of its being known is to be achieved:

"The subject cannot be aware of the object unless they are related. And there cannot exist any relation between two heterogeneous things. Relation implies identity, for it cannot be possible between two utterly different objects. The cognition of the object by the subject therefore establishes their substantial identity. If they were utterly different from each other, knowledge would not have been possible; the subject would ever remain unaware of the object as a stone of the taste of sugar. The whole world is merely ideal. It does not exist except in thought. It arises and exists in the mind. The whole universe is the self-expansion of the Mind Force. It is a huge dream arisen within the mind. It is Mind alone that has assumed the forms of time, space and movement."

<quoted text>standard fundamentalist argumentHughbe blames it all on satanequal amount of data for either of those explanations

rabbee: how can i blame anything, on hasatan? when even hasatan, is doing as commanded by G-D. if anyone is under the influence, of hasatan, baal hamolech, or halooseefer. they only have themselves to blame, for not being actually true to HaShem G-D.

i do not even have the right to kill, the more subtle than any other beast of the fields. since he too, is made and fashioned by G-D. and even if i did, he would just pop back up like a daisy.

MIND-MATTER - YOGA VASHISHTA:The author of The Yoga Vashishta asserts that the world is relative to the mind and must therefore be mental in basal character if the possibility of its being known is to be achieved:"The subject cannot be aware of the object unless they are related. And there cannot exist any relation between two heterogeneous things. Relation implies identity, for it cannot be possible between two utterly different objects. The cognition of the object by the subject therefore establishes their substantial identity. If they were utterly different from each other, knowledge would not have been possible; the subject would ever remain unaware of the object as a stone of the taste of sugar. The whole world is merely ideal. It does not exist except in thought. It arises and exists in the mind. The whole universe is the self-expansion of the Mind Force. It is a huge dream arisen within the mind. It is Mind alone that has assumed the forms of time, space and movement."- YOGA VASHISHTAWOW!

Why do you feel the necessity of triple spamming (at least) three forums simultaneously?

Broke: Stockton GoesBankrupt:“Precedent-Setting Implications”Mac SlavoSHTFPlan.comApril 2, 2013One of the most dangerous cities inAmerica has just declared bankruptcy,leaving creditors out hundreds ofmillions of dollars.U.S. Bankruptcy Judge ChristopherKlein said the bankruptcy declarationwas needed to allow the city tocontinue to provide basic services.“It’s apparent to me the city would notbe able to perform its obligations to itscitizens on fundamental public safetyas well as other basic governmentservices without the ability to have themuscle of the contract-impairingpower of federal bankruptcy law,”Klein said.The city of nearly 300,000 people hasbecome emblematic of governmentexcess and the financial calamity thatresulted when the nation’s housingbubble burst.Its salaries, benefits and borrowingwere based on anticipated long-termdeveloper fees and increasingproperty tax revenue. But those werelost in a flurry of foreclosuresbeginning in the mid-2000s and a 70percent decline in the city’s tax base.…Attorneys for the city said the city’sbudget and services had been cut tothe bone.“There’s nothing to celebrate aboutbankruptcy,” said Bob Deis, Stockton’scity manager.“But it is a vindication ofwhat we’ve been saying for ninemonths.”The Chapter 9 bankruptcy caseis being closely watched nationallyfor potential precedent-settingimplications.The $900 million that Stockton owesto the California Public Employees’Retirement System to cover pensionpromises is its biggest debt. So farStockton has kept up with pensionpayments while it has reneged onother debts, maintaining that it needsa strong pension plan to retain itspared-down workforce.…By 2009 Stockton had accumulatednearly $1 billion in debt on civicimprovements, money owed to paypension contributions, and the mostgenerous health care benefit in thestate—coverage for life for all retireesplus a dependent, no matter how longthey had worked for the city.CNBCCreditors, who invested tens ofmillions of dollars into city bonds tohelp cover pension payment shortageshave been left holding the bag. Andnow, with the city officially bankrupt,even those pensions are under threat.Stockton is the first of many largecities that will soon declarebankruptcy, with more troubled localcity councils likely to seek bankruptcyprotection in the near future.

<quoted text>If majority of Americans KNOW that Iraq war was a fiasco...then why no action has been initiated against GWB the Great and his cronies?Why they killed a million of Iraqis and get thousands of their own soldiers killed?Why they wasted trillions of Tax payers money?Where is the accountability in your system?Why these people are not behind bars?The fact is very few Americans realize what damage this GWB and his cronies did to USA.You are just faking.

Are you blind? Havent you noticed that the Republicans have been voted out of the office TWICE?

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