quote:Originally posted by Gary
At the most basic level we are designed to fight/kill anyone who is a threat.

Many of us have evolved to use our brains instead.

Its called evolution Steven.

so your argument suggests that if this is down to evolution we will all end up gays

the very nature of that theory is flawed in that if we evolve more and more into gays we wont be able to repoduce and evolution will take a backwards step

and further to that, suggests that gayness is a backwards step in evolution

i reckon in the future we will find a definitive medical reason why gays are gay, a missing chromosome or something, then if found at birth we will be given a drug or some other treatment and that will be that, the end of gays

[Edited on 14-05-2011 by Steve]

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14th May 11 at 14:49

quote:Originally posted by Partyvan

quote:Originally posted by Gary
I'd still like to hear these Homophobes thoughts on Lesbians......

Well it's still not normal from an evolutionary or biological perspective, the only differences IMO are that it's not grotesque like the male act, it can be loving and sensual. There's also less risk of transmitting things like AIDS than two gay men having sex.

Answer me this folks - The spread of AIDS has been proved to be centred around the gay male community. It's also known to have caused millions of deaths worldwide ( 30 million according to http://www.avert.org/worldstats.htm ). So in other words, if gay men had sought help instead of giving in to their selfish, dangerous and offensive desires... we'd have a far lower number of dead people and orphans in the world (18 million orphaned children).

If you look at it on a death-for-death comparison, gay people are on a par with the Nazis behind the holocaust.

[Edited on 14-05-2011 by Partyvan]

Shut you you tool.

This gays and AIDS thing is shit. Straight prople could spread it just as fast.

and the very nature of these replies, just shows my original point of that if you share any sort of alternative view then you are a racist, homophobic delete as per appropriate.

which couldnt be any further then the truth, i really dont feel offended or angered in anyway by anyone who decides they are gay, nor do i wish to prevent them being so. Im saying that it isnt a natural trait of a human being

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14th May 11 at 14:53

quote:Originally posted by Steve

quote:Originally posted by Gary
At the most basic level we are designed to fight/kill anyone who is a threat.

Many of us have evolved to use our brains instead.

Its called evolution Steven.

so your argument suggests that if this is down to evolution we will all end up gays

the very nature of that theory is flawed in that if we evolve more and more into gays we wont be able to repoduce and evolution will take a backwards step

and further to that, suggests that gayness is a backwards step in evolution

i reckon in the future we will find a definitive medial reason why gays are gay, a missing chromosome or something, then if found at birth we will be given a drug or some other treatment and that will be that, the end of gays

[Edited on 14-05-2011 by Steve]

No we arnt all gonna end up gay. thats impossible.

What is your big problem with it? How does someone been gay affect you? It dosent. Its fuck all to do with a 'missing chromosome' imo. its just someones mind thinking differently.

quote:Originally posted by Steve
and the very nature of these replies, just shows my original point of that if you share any sort of alternative view then you are a racist, homophobic delete as per appropriate.

which couldnt be any further then the truth, i really dont feel offended or angered in anyway by anyone who decides they are gay, nor do i wish to prevent them being so. Im saying that it isnt a natural trait of a human being

quote:Originally posted by Steve
and the very nature of these replies, just shows my original point of that if you share any sort of alternative view then you are a racist, homophobic delete as per appropriate.

which couldnt be any further then the truth, i really dont feel offended or angered in anyway by anyone who decides they are gay, nor do i wish to prevent them being so. Im saying that it isnt a natural trait of a human being

quote:Originally posted by Partyvan
Well it's still not normal from an evolutionary or biological perspective, the only differences IMO are that it's not grotesque like the male act, it can be loving and sensual. There's also less risk of transmitting things like AIDS than two gay men having sex.

Answer me this folks - The spread of AIDS has been proved to be centred around the gay male community. It's also known to have caused millions of deaths worldwide ( 30 million according to http://www.avert.org/worldstats.htm ). So in other words, if gay men had sought help instead of giving in to their selfish, dangerous and offensive desires... we'd have a far lower number of dead people and orphans in the world (18 million orphaned children).

If you look at it on a death-for-death comparison, gay people are on a par with the Nazis behind the holocaust.

[Edited on 14-05-2011 by Partyvan]

1. Since we're throwing around statistics here, show me where "The spread of AIDS has been proved to be centred around the gay male community".

2. How are "gay people on a par with the Nazis"? Do all gay people have Jewish murderous tendencies?

3. Do you even know ANYTHING about HIV or how it is mainly passed on to people?

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14th May 11 at 14:58

quote:Originally posted by Steve
yes he is

Your mrs aint right crackin' imo, you think differently. Is that wrong? No.

no, but then that is perfectly natural for humans, to compete for the best mate, thats perfectly inline with Darwins survival of the fittest, which ties in with normal human reproduction, which ties in with roughly nothing to do with gayness

quote:1. Since we're throwing around statistics here, show me where "The spread of AIDS has been proved to be centred around the gay male community".

2. How are "gay people on a par with the Nazis"? Do all gay people have Jewish murderous tendencies?

3. Do you even know ANYTHING about HIV or how it is mainly passed on to people?

1. Anyone with basic knowledge on AIDS knows the most likely sources of infection are gay, black men. I didn't want to pull the race card as well but there you go. Seriously just do some research on the subject and you'll see im right.

2. They are causing deaths through their belief. If they didn't enjoy playing "hide the sausage" so much, the spread of AIDS would have been greatly retarded.

3. More than you, evidently.

In fact, the FIRST google hit I got for "HIV risk factors" says this

"African Americans were disproportionately affected by HIV infection, accounting for 55% of all HIV infections reported among persons aged 13Ė24"

and

"Young men who have sex with men (MSM), especially those of minority races or ethnicities, were at high risk for HIV infection. In the 7 cities that participated in CDCís Young Menís Survey during 1994Ė1998, 14% of African American MSM and 7% of Hispanic"

No because you are still talking about male to female interaction, and trying to compare it to male to male interaction

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14th May 11 at 15:10

Its getting silly now.

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14th May 11 at 15:12

quote:Originally posted by Steve
No because you are still talking about male to female interaction, and trying to compare it to male to male interaction

tbh i was just trying to dumb it down for you.

There is nothing wrong with you who are attracted to, its just how someone is. Its not something wrong with them!

Yeah, fair do's it goes againsts the basics. But we havent lived by our basic instincts alone for a long time now.

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14th May 11 at 15:13

quote:Originally posted by Nath
Its getting silly now.

Agreed.

Will someone please volounteer to go play hide the sausage with Steve so he can get rid of all this built up homosexual frustration!

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14th May 11 at 15:15

quote:Originally posted by Partyvan
1. Anyone with basic knowledge on AIDS knows the most likely sources of infection are gay, black men. I didn't want to pull the race card as well but there you go. Seriously just do some research on the subject and you'll see im right.

2. They are causing deaths through their belief. If they didn't enjoy playing "hide the sausage" so much, the spread of AIDS would have been greatly retarded.

3. More than you, evidently.

In fact, the FIRST google hit I got for "HIV risk factors" says this

"African Americans were disproportionately affected by HIV infection, accounting for 55% of all HIV infections reported among persons aged 13Ė24"

and

"Young men who have sex with men (MSM), especially those of minority races or ethnicities, were at high risk for HIV infection. In the 7 cities that participated in CDCís Young Menís Survey during 1994Ė1998, 14% of African American MSM and 7% of Hispanic"