The problem with the FIFA players is that they don't bother learning the controls. They are quite a far part from FIFA. As I have learnt. They don't give it chance and learn the controls, it's as if they play one game, get thrashed and say it's shit because the player isn't making a run. I'm loving the Demo currently. Elano is just sheer class from long range. Ronaldinho is awesome also. Will try and sign him on ML.

What a disgusting stereotype.

Ever thought it might just be that they don't like this style of game?

No, they must be doing something wrong, everybody must like this game.

And yes, the same goes for Fifa nubs who blindly defend the game to death.

Woah! Calm down....

I prefer FIFA myself, that wasn't at all directed at you. I was watching some of the reviews and they all talked about FIFA being better because of this and that. I just forgot to mention that part.... Geez!

I know it wasn't, I just hate it when snide comments are thrown around instead of actually discussing the points raised (as Cashis and Chelskiman have done) and seeing where preferences differ.

Idk Cashis, better than last year by a country mile but I found the CPU tended to parry it a bit too much with shots from range. Tbh though that was mostly Neuer (lifelike) from long shots with Ronaldo.

The problem with the FIFA players is that they don't bother learning the controls. They are quite a far part from FIFA. As I have learnt. They don't give it chance and learn the controls, it's as if they play one game, get thrashed and say it's shit because the player isn't making a run. I'm loving the Demo currently. Elano is just sheer class from long range. Ronaldinho is awesome also. Will try and sign him on ML.

What a disgusting stereotype.

Ever thought it might just be that they don't like this style of game?

No, they must be doing something wrong, everybody must like this game.

And yes, the same goes for Fifa nubs who blindly defend the game to death.

I've played FIFA since 08 and I'm certain most of what he says is true 95% of the time. FIFA is full of idiots who care about having the latest boots and green hair whilst winning as easily as possible.

I'm sure you've given it a chance and given an honest assessments on your thoughts but I cam guarantee you're an exception to the rule.

Idk Cashis, better than last year by a country mile but I found the CPU tended to parry it a bit too much with shots from range. Tbh though that was mostly Neuer (lifelike) from long shots with Ronaldo.

I've played FIFA since 08 and I'm certain most of what he says is true 95% of the time. FIFA is full of idiots who care about having the latest boots and green hair whilst winning as easily as possible.

And PES is full of idiots who care more about how good an edit mode is rather than if any flaws in the game will actually be fixed.

Both games have their *bleep* userbases, if anything the majority of the sensible ones are found on the games respective forums on here.

Which is absolutely futile to bring up if you now go and look at the Fifa 12 forum

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I'm sure you've given it a chance and given an honest assessments on your thoughts but I cam guarantee you're an exception to the rule.

Myself, Scott and Jones are all 100% Fifa and we've given it fair shouts. Most people who post on these sort of websites are likely to be fair in their assessments too given they tend to come onto places like this to rant about the things wrong with each game so they're willing to try the competition.

PES will never get close to catching up with Fifa because EA are a marketing machine, so many people I know went out and bought Fifa on launch night because they're told, either by the media or word of mouth, that Fifa is better and they believe it. None of which matters as the sensible people on here will pick whichever game they prefer. Just find it a bit pointless throwing insults at people on either sides fanbase when I've seen little on here to suggest anyone is like that

I didn't think he was talking about on here, my bad. I thought he just meant in general. Yeah I agree on here is where you're going to get honest opinions but usually I spend a fair bit of time on EAs FIFA forum before the new game comes out, you wouldn't believe what most of them look for in a game.

Then speaking to lots of FIFA players during matches or after matches, most of them are absolute nobs. I don't get that so much with PES.

One reason could be the average age of players seems to be a lot lower on FIFA.