FWIW, I went up with Mark Bailey (ScaldedDog, who owns the nice silver 4Runner originally SASed by Scott Wilson, one of the early SASes, and that now sits on Diamond full width axles and 38s) and a friend of his, Ken, in a TJ last Saturday very early. I wasn't gonna do the wall (first obstacle), but before I knew it Ken had led us to its base.

Oh well.

That thing is way different than it used to be, erosion will pretty much slow down now as it is down to rock in lots of places. The line now zags right against the tree stump (you know, where there used to be a tree before some bonehead cut it down a few years ago??? ). You'd better have some lean tolerance, or very low gears, or both.... I have the latter at least. It wasn't so bad, but Ken in the TJ had some serious spooky bounce and we ended up winching him - I can certainly see why the XJ flopped there. I cut a finger on some of the glass shards from that 4Runner in the Colo4x4 thread- not too bad though.

Mark walked right up it.

The tippy obstacle from Father'sDay was now impassible for me. A boulder shifted, that's it.

Good day all in all, finally got moisture happening in the mountains...