Still won't sticky this or lock the other one until the regulars decide to do so... I kinda feel awkward changing things around here esp from being absent for so long.

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11/18/2009 - 01:31 PM PST

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Brick Layer for 36,000 tacos.

Hot Dog Hero for 18,000 plates of nachos with cheese and jalapenos.

Give them to the crowd at one of the home games, in reparation for all the suffering they have caused.

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11/18/2009 - 01:47 PM PST

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^ Hot Dog Hero has more potential than the Brick Layer or Larry Bird II, Cuckoo.

Well, I'd love to have Thabo Sefolosha in P&G. Just last night, he held Wade to 22 points and helped the Thunder blow out Miami AT Miami. He's probably untouchable, so that kinda sucks for us.

How about Kapono? The team adds a pure shooter, and a guy who will contest every shot. Idk how tough it'd be to get him though.

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12/11/2009 - 03:49 PM PST

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Thought I'd bump this thread after seeing over 3,000 posts and over 93,000 views on the original Trade Ideas Thread. I do think we should lock the other one and use this one now. But since its your thread Warren, its your call.

Trade Idea: Ryan Gomes

Good versatile defender, can shoot the long ball, good rebounder, can play 3 positions, knows the triangle.

In the arena of trading, the Lakers are in teh worst shape of any NBA team.
They are way over the cap, in the 8-9 man rotation the Lakers are solid and have great chemistry, and the scrubs are pretty scrubby.
But that is good.
How many guys at this point can the Lakers trade with out breaking up the chemistry.
Farmar is playing better. Turn overs down, and he's playing well with Shannon brown as duel PG.
Shannon is a keeper.
Powell is playing decent, but not exactly a headline player.
While he's not the strongest link on the team, he's holding his own, and who can the Lakers get to replace him and do a better job than what he's already doing? In their situation nobody.
Walton is injured so he's a no trader, but even if he was healthy, his contract is too long, no body wants it. But even if that wasn't the case.
Walton is a glue guy. He might not perform perfect, but he understands the game and is a great team mate. Those kind of guys are important to chemistry.
Sasha, How does he help a team he might go to? I can;t think of one team he could help.
Morrison, Looks lost on the court. Is afraid to shoot, and looks like he just can't wait to finish his contract and leave the NBA. he has some value in that he's an expiring contract. But, he's at just over $5,000,000. I couldn;t find any players of any value that match his contract. The Lakers aren't going to want to give up an expiring contract for someone just as useless but with a longer contract.
So why trade him?
When you look at what we have to trade, what do we really have that anyone would want?
I have one idea. And it's a stretch.....

Mike Miller is out of the question for me. I remember about 2 years ago, Memphis wanted Odom for him. He'd be an awesome fit for the team solely because of his shooting, but judging how the Wiz arent exactly out of the hunt yet, I dont see this happening. Defensively, he lacks physicality, and has been labeled soft throughout his career.

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Quick question: I know it is off topic, but is the hot dog hero farmar?

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ReliveThe3PEAT wrote:

^ Good analysis Randy.

Mike Miller is out of the question for me. I remember about 2 years ago, Memphis wanted Odom for him. He'd be an awesome fit for the team solely because of his shooting, but judging how the Wiz arent exactly out of the hunt yet, I dont see this happening. Defensively, he lacks physicality, and has been labeled soft throughout his career.

I'd take Miller in that trade scenario, without a doubt. He's an exceptional shooter, experienced player, good teammate and has a head for the game.

Defensively, he's not a major liability. Definitely as good as, or better than, what we'd be giving up. I think it'd work perfectly with him as the one spelling Kobe.

On that note, however, I don't see it happening. It's a much higher upside for the Lakers than for the Wiz.

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12/12/2009 - 12:18 AM PST

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Die!celtics.Die! wrote:

Quick question: I know it is off topic, but is the hot dog hero farmar?

Yup. But lately, he hasnt played like the Hot Dog Hero. Lets wait and see if he keeps up the good play.

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ReliveThe3PEAT wrote:

Die!celtics.Die! wrote:

Quick question: I know it is off topic, but is the hot dog hero farmar?

Yup. But lately, he hasnt played like the Hot Dog Hero. Lets wait and see if he keeps up the good play.

Thanks, I had been wondering for some time now. Yes, let's hope his play remains consistent...

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12/25/2009 - 08:40 PM PST

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Well Hot Dog Hero needs to go.

I'll leave it up to you guys to make the suggestions.

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12/25/2009 - 08:59 PM PST

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Ha! Funny! I had a feeling this thread would pop up again after yet another DISMAL performance from the bench.

Stating the obvious here, the Lakers offense (especially coming from the bench) has been sputtering most of the season so far. We just don't look as sharp or as crisp as last year, nor as deep. Again, our starting five is fine, but when the bench come in, there is a SERIOUS drop off.

I really honestly do feel it is time to move Fisher to the bench. I don't know of any other points guards his age who are starting for NBA teams who aren't all stars. Fish would really stabilize the bench and take a lot of pressure off of him.

As most of you have stated, our only real movable piece is Adam Morrison, and I'm sorry but at 5.2 million a season there HAS to be a team out there willing to part with one of their young players who they know they can't afford to re-sign to gain his expiring contract.

The Lakers front office needs to be looking at a Shooting Guard that they can convert into a point guard, much like they did with Ron Harper. I LOVE the Ryan Gomes idea. He is exactly the type of player I'm talking about.

The one thing I am proud to say is that Mitch Kupchack really has done a great job at addressing the Lakers weaknesses and needs over the past few seasons, and after seeing the look on his face late in the fourth quarter in today's game, I would not be surprised if his wheels are now turning. These teams (like the Cavs) are the measuring stick, and I just don't see us repeating without a move of some kind.

So, what I would love to hear is a list of some other players you guys think might be available in a trade for Morrision. Big guards like Gomes I'm talking about, because..well....that's what we REALLY need right now.

you know i love the simmons idea of calderon for farmar/morrison or sasha/morrison. i think once we get luke back our bench will also improve. mitch does need to make a move for a legit pg though

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12/25/2009 - 10:29 PM PST

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Well Rashard Mcants is a free agent. He can fill it up and right now thats what we need off the bench. Someone who can just come off the bench, give Kobe a rest and be explosive.

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Hey guys, as disappointing as this game was - and believe me - I had a sour face all night - it is just one game that a very decent team came in and played extremely well and very, very hard. We have been sleepwalking for the last couple of games to start and this time it was against a foe that was all pumped up.

The bench is horrible - but as strange as it sounds to me to write - I think having Luke back is going to really help the second unit. It will help Odom and all the rest get the ball in the right spots at the right time and we will improve in that category.

As bad as the bench was - only Kobe showed up this game and even he had an off night. Artest did a fine job on defense against Lebron, but it is not enough. Pau, Bynum, Odom and the bench didn't show up at all. It really surprised me that Pau was so out of it all night - he is usually rock solid 99.9% of the time.

I'm glad there is a game tomorrow.

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12/25/2009 - 10:52 PM PST

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Drewballer93 wrote:

Well Rashard Mcants is a free agent. He can fill it up and right now thats what we need off the bench. Someone who can just come off the bench, give Kobe a rest and be explosive.

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12/25/2009 - 11:15 PM PST

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That's to funny. That's exactly what I was thinking relive.

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12/25/2009 - 11:40 PM PST

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one thing to think about is it was christmas 4 mitch and buss too so i know it peed them off to spend all that money and put all these great players together n they play like this they need some veteran guys wit heart and energy that are hungry to win like we were last year this bench flat out cant score can neone say nate robinson

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12/26/2009 - 02:28 AM PST

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Trade the entire Zombie Squad for a milk cow. At least it gives milk. At least it is useful.

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12/26/2009 - 02:54 AM PST

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well lets think what we really need that this team is lacking. 1. A true pg. 2. A good physical Sf. we need to sit AB and push gasol to the center and bring odom back as a starter playing PF. remeber wen AB wen down and odom started playing really good again its because he started. now for the bench euro chick has to go! farmar and brown are doing their part. mbenga. powell, luke and morrison dont even get to play so lets package them some how and get them out of here. lets get josh smith from ATL. we can have fish, kobe, odom, smith, and gasol. trade farmar sasha and morrison for smith

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12/26/2009 - 07:13 AM PST

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Atlanta trading Smith? No way. Not the way they are gelling right now. We have to go to the bottom feeders and try to find an outside scoring threat. That's mostly what's lacking imo and has been for a long time. Steve Smith comes off the bench for Denver and drains 9 3's and gets 41 points...off the bench! Not sure who it is, but we need that guy, Odom does his job off the bench, the others who are decent do theirs, but we do not have a good outside scoring threat, other than Kobe and occasionally RonRon, who shouldn't be in the position of being relied on for 3's. Can't really be a starter coz then who would sit? We need a Ginoblie/Smith, whoever. Hungry and hot shooter.

I for one don't think Luke returning will help much. He always takes time to get back in game shape when he comes back from his latest injuries, and was a mistake to sign in the first place. Who cares if he's a nice guy. Nice guys finish last, or haven't we learned that by now. He'd be a great neighbor and a good teammate, but has no game.

Also don't think sitting 'Drew is a bad idea. Tho he's been scoring well he's not there for scoring. His D is not getting any better against top forwards. Maybe he needs a little humble pie. Couldn't hurt to see how Odumb performs as a starter once again and bring in Drew off the bench.

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after yesterday debacle ... i couldnt just lurk in threads any more ... lol ... the lakers need to do one thing ... and it is obvious .. sorry lakers fans .. but we need to trade bynum for our pg of the future ... dude is obviously unmotivated and less productive when gasol is getting touches .. and it almost isnt really his fault ... the lakers have weapons ... and the best player in the league ...

lakers need to swing for da fences ... get 2-3 players for bynum .... it can be done ... and needs to be done before his production really slips .....

like a bynum and expiring to new jersey for devin harris boone and a bad contract ( najera .. but they hate yi so much .. who knows ... ) ... boone would give us a solid big off the bench .. which they dont have .... harris is da type of point the lakers need ... feisty on d ... athletic .. nice j ... and will also dunk on you ......

if farmar and / or morrison gotta be traded ( two most attractive laker trade pieces ) .. so be it ... the lakers obviously overpaid for a guy that does not mesh well consitently with a guy they just gave 57 mil ( gasol ) .. while odom meshes much better .....

harris / fish / brown

kobe/brown/sasha

artest/ free agent ? / kobe

lo/ boone /powell

gasol / boone / powell

see you guys around in da threads

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12/26/2009 - 01:50 PM PST

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I doubt NJ goes for that. They already have a great, young (younger than Bynum) Center in Brook Lopez. There's really no need for them to give up Harris for Bynum.

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VujacicSlovenia wrote:

I doubt NJ goes for that. They already have a great, young (younger than Bynum) Center in Brook Lopez. There's really no need for them to give up Harris for Bynum.

and in my opinion .. the only way the lakers can get a championship caliber starting pg ...is to trade bynum .... plus .... odom plays more in the stretch than bynum .....

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what is with these ideas of going for a franchise PG? Ridiculous. We just need a guy who can make occasional cuts and spot up for 3. Oh yeah, and he needs to be smart and consistent. If Fisher were any younger he would be perfect, and we are in a situation that calls for replenishment not overhaul.

Los Angeles Lakers Recieve:

PG Luke Ridnour

Milwaukee Bucks Recieve:

PG Jordan Farmar

SF Adam Morrison

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12/26/2009 - 03:19 PM PST

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^ Big no.

Luke Ridnour is like a clone of Farmar.

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I did this trade on trade machine, and it worked Farmar and Sasha, for Stephen curry and Turiaf. I mean it works both ways, they get another shooter in Sasha and a run and gun PG in Farmar, and for us curry gives us good defense and 3point shooting and passing, and we get our beloved energetic bench player in Turiaf!

It also worked if we added josh powell to the trade so it would be 3 of our players for 2 of their players, this would work to clear up big man space and get ronny Playing time

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Theblakmamba wrote:

I did this trade on trade machine, and it worked Farmar and Sasha, for Stephen curry and Turiaf. I mean it works both ways, they get another shooter in Sasha and a run and gun PG in Farmar, and for us curry gives us good defense and 3point shooting and passing, and we get our beloved energetic bench player in Turiaf!

It also worked if we added josh powell to the trade so it would be 3 of our players for 2 of their players, this would work to clear up big man space and get ronny Playing time

no way in hell that the warriors would accept that

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Jethro wrote:

Theblakmamba wrote:

I did this trade on trade machine, and it worked Farmar and Sasha, for Stephen curry and Turiaf. I mean it works both ways, they get another shooter in Sasha and a run and gun PG in Farmar, and for us curry gives us good defense and 3point shooting and passing, and we get our beloved energetic bench player in Turiaf!

It also worked if we added josh powell to the trade so it would be 3 of our players for 2 of their players, this would work to clear up big man space and get ronny Playing time

no way in hell that the warriors would accept that

Never say never! look at how we got Gasol. The only reason that could stop this trade is Nelsons love for Currys game, i mean they have alot of big men on their squad and josh powell can fill Turiafs place

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I like it, we don't lose anything that's fo shizzle lol

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Theblakmamba wrote:

I did this trade on trade machine, and it worked Farmar and Sasha, for Stephen curry and Turiaf. I mean it works both ways, they get another shooter in Sasha and a run and gun PG in Farmar, and for us curry gives us good defense and 3point shooting and passing, and we get our beloved energetic bench player in Turiaf!

It also worked if we added josh powell to the trade so it would be 3 of our players for 2 of their players, this would work to clear up big man space and get ronny Playing time

Stephen Curry has potential. The Warriors are not willing to trade potential for proven crap. They wouldn't take Amare Stoudemire for Curry!

The Gasol grand slam was all about giving the Grizzlies a potentially balanced platter in 1st Rounders, Marc Gasol, and Javaris Crittenton. We don't have any potential to offer, unless we give them a high impact player like Bynum.

Just because the Warriors are putting everyone up for trade doesn't mean they will accept crap in return. Their roster is stacked with 16 players. No way they accept a bundle of crap in return for 1 or 2 guys. They want franchise players and/or potential.

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12/26/2009 - 05:04 PM PST

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I'm still praying for the Calderon trade but I'd rather have Anthony Randolph over Ronny Turiaf.

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Watch_the_Sky_Fall_24 wrote:

I'm still praying for the Calderon trade but I'd rather have Anthony Randolph over Ronny Turiaf.

calderon would be a godsend. he's absolutely the type of player that would blend into the mix we got. if we pull off that trade there would be no doubt about back to back

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12/26/2009 - 05:44 PM PST

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Why anthony randolph? The guy is a crybaby, lakers don't need any crybabies on the team. Give me Turiaf in a trade and I'll be happy. At least you know he is gonna give it his all every second he is in the game.

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yes this mite be a 2k10 trade but wat do u guys think about a bynum morrison farmar package for monta ellis morrow n turiaf. it gives us a big point guard who can create a pure shooter to spread the floor n a scrappy guy comin off the bench and the warriors get there tandem of the future wit bynum n curry n the cap space to add a wing player in da offseason

ellis,kobe,ron,odom,pau

2.farmar,curry,maggette.randolph and bynum

ithink it makes since

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12/26/2009 - 07:29 PM PST

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makes since? okkkkkk

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Some of my proposals:

Farmar + Morrison

Jason Kapono

Sasha Vujacic + Adam Morrison

Eddy Curry

Luke Walton + 2010 1st round pick + Sasha Vujacic + Farmar

Hughes

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12/26/2009 - 08:53 PM PST

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EDIT: http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/2307/tradet.png

This would be a dream come true.

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what would? Anyways I just read Curry wants out of NY. SO there's an option, but as a bench player?

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Shepherd wrote:

what would? Anyways I just read Curry wants out of NY. SO there's an option, but as a bench player?

to get an impact player we would have to get rid of Bynum. He's probably the most attractive trade piece we have. I think the Warriors may go for a Bynum for Stephen Curry and filler because they need size. That'd be a pretty killer back court of fish/Kobe/Curry/Shannon Brown. I think Bynum would flourish in an uptempo offense like they run up in Oakland.

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I know it's a crazy idea, but what if the hornets come out and say they are shopping chris paul like people were saying could happen. Do you think the lakers could swing bringing paul to LA? I was thinking like giving up andrew bynum along with adam morrison, jordan farmar, all the first round picks they can give up, for like chris paul and peja. The hornets would get a real promising young center with all the potential in the world. They also get cap relief with the expiring contracts of farmar and morrison and getting rid of peja's big contract. It won't happen but that would be amazing if it did.

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12/27/2009 - 04:22 PM PST

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^if that happened the rest of NBA fans would be hating the Lakers and probably stop caring.

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I would trade Farmar for a Red Bull and a pack of cigarettes. That's how bad I want him gone.

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I know it's a crazy idea, but what if the hornets come out and say they are shopping chris paul like people were saying could happen. Do you think the lakers could swing bringing paul to LA? I was thinking like giving up andrew bynum along with adam morrison, jordan farmar, all the first round picks they can give up, for like chris paul and peja. The hornets would get a real promising young center with all the potential in the world. They also get cap relief with the expiring contracts of farmar and morrison and getting rid of peja's big contract. It won't happen but that would be amazing if it did.

If that happened I think we'd be unbeatable. We already have the big men in Odom and Gasol and adding CP3 into that would be nuts. But no way that happens. Chris Paul is like the energy to that city it feels like. The salaries seem like they match up. Bynum has a big deal as does CP3

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12/27/2009 - 11:40 PM PST

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Most of you are putting together intrawest deals. No one in the west is going to trade with the Lakers unless we are offering Lamar, Kobe, Pau or Drew. There may be someone in the East dumb enough to help us but even there we need to be very lucky. The only thing we have to offer is expiring contracts. No one will want the contracts of Sasha or Walton

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The only thing we need is a physical, quick, defensive minded guard that can knock down a few jumpers. We don't need a true PG. The triangle offense dictates that. A younger version of Derek Fisher would have been perfect. So follow that imprint and just try to trade for that type of player. In most of the losses thus far, our weakest link is in the PG position. So there you go. Once that happens, we'll be set for consecutive titles and will definitely beat the Leprechauns in title count.