Dr.Mxyzptlk.:Funny thing, it's actually the religion of progressivismthat Hillary, and her fellow travelers follow that will keep these women under the thumb and cover of the hajib. Also under the mullahs too.

During the Soviet era, the armed forces wore dress uniform hats tghat were quite large. You can see the same style echoed in the North Korean military still, today.I therefore conclude that big hats are an essential and indispensible feature of Communist philosophy, and that communism can't be communism without big hats.

EmmaLou:While on vacation, I watched a story on AlJazeera about two Afghan women who had been attacked by their husbands. One had her lips and nose cut and was severely beaten, the other was killed and chopped into pieces. The police and everyone knew who committed the crimes, but both husbands are still free. They will likely never face punishment.

WTF? I don't even know what to say about how sick and wrong that is.

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Starting your argument with a buzz-word meant to create negativity based on nothing other than the buzz-word is not going to get you very far. It's like using the word "denier" in a climate change thread... you lose all credibility the second you say it.

I agree we've created a rabid dog in multiple points the world over, but letting it run free isn't a solution.

Umm... we ARE the rabid dog.

Caging it, paying off its offspring with food and then killing the older generation is the only thing that's going to let us move forward.

If you let the offended run things, they're correctly going to bite that which attacked them. That dog has to be put down, but the next generation can learn that there's good to be had by cooperating.

Would that work if a foreign country did to us what we've done to them? Would YOU cooperate with them? Me, I'd learn how to build a remote-controlled bomb and set it by the side of the road, waiting for them to drive by. And I'd also kill any Americans who cooperated with them. Unlike hubiestubert, I think that their terrorism and attempts at terrorism is totally justified... how else can you fight an enemy that is 100 years more technologically advanced and has 10,000 times the money to wage war with? You wouldn't box by the rules if you fought Joe Frazier in his prime, would you?

So it's ok to blow up people who you feel have slighted you? I'm just trying to understand the way the left thinks.

Bslim:Son of Thunder: Bslim: Lee451: jchic: When was the last time religion actually improved a country?

I think the Soviet Union is excellent example of what atheism does to a country. Or China under Mao. Cambodia under Pol Pot?

Yeah cause it was all about the atheism.

Funny, your use of the word "all". No, those regimes were not ALL about atheism, any more than (as has been pointed out in this thread) the situation in Afghanistan is ALL about Islam. But it takes a special kind of willful myopia combined with all-or-nothing simplemindedness to pretend that the existence of one factor means that we can ignore another factor when explaining a situation.

Okay, why don't you explain it, chief.

Shall I teach you the entire Torah while you stand on one foot while I'm at it?

FarkQued:EmmaLou: While on vacation, I watched a story on AlJazeera about two Afghan women who had been attacked by their husbands. One had her lips and nose cut and was severely beaten, the other was killed and chopped into pieces. The police and everyone knew who committed the crimes, but both husbands are still free. They will likely never face punishment.

WTF? I don't even know what to say about how sick and wrong that is.

That is Farked up, however so is watchin aj aka terrorist.tv.

AlJazeera, from what I've seen, is less biased that most American "journalism". It's more like watching an Arabian BBC than an Arabian FOX News.

/of course, you probably think the BBC is part of an evil liberal media conspiracy so I guess I'm not helping

ghare:Prophet of Loss: Progressive Afghanistan was never a majority which is made of warring fanatical tribes. Sure they saw some progress in major cities, but the majority of the population was never on board.

The smart people always live in the cities, wherever you are.

Most of them do.So do most of the left-handed people, and most of the tall people, as well as a vast majority of the redheads.What's your point?

LewDux:Bslim: Lee451: jchic: When was the last time religion actually improved a country?

I think the Soviet Union is excellent example of what atheism does to a country. Or China under Mao. Cambodia under Pol Pot?

So, you are saying that if, over time, Americans were to abandon religion, we would end up living like the Soviets in the thirties? Merely by virtue of having abandoned religion? Interesting theory - I'd be fascinated to hear you attempt to support it.But I'll bet I won't.

BMFPitt:ghare: Prophet of Loss: Progressive Afghanistan was never a majority which is made of warring fanatical tribes. Sure they saw some progress in major cities, but the majority of the population was never on board.

ghare:Prophet of Loss: Progressive Afghanistan was never a majority which is made of warring fanatical tribes. Sure they saw some progress in major cities, but the majority of the population was never on board.

weltallica:NOW LOOK AT AMERICA, and tell yourselves right-wing conservative religious zealots could never do that here.

Meh, right wing zealots tend to be old, hoverround riding farts. A real right wing uprising would probably take the Country Kitchen Buffet before being blown to hell by the Air Force./Still, it wouldn't hurt to own a gun and know how to use it.//As well as supplies, a radio, and an evacuation route.///Just in case.

Throughout 1978 and 1979, the communists in charge of Afghanistan tried to extend the idea of women's rights out into the countryside and set up literacy schools for rural Afghan women. This is what really freaked out the Mujahadeen and the mullahs, who attacked the schools and killed many of the students and teachers. That's when the government in Kabul called in the Soviets, who sent in their military to quell the fundamentalists at the end of December 1979.

"The Communists were trying to change the law of God. They wanted to destroy Islamic traditions -- to rid Afghanistan of poverty and make everyone equal. This is against the law of Islam -- God has decided who is rich and who is poor. It can't be changed by Communists. It's beyond imagination." Sahar Gul, Mullah Laghman Province (CNN Cold War: Soldiers of God, 1998)

I was opposed to the Soviet attempt to colonize Afghanistan because it was equivalent to the US "presence" in Vietnam. Back then it was hard to imagine anything like the Taliban happening anywhere; indeed it was hard to foresee what the Twelvers would get up to next door, which is bad enough.

Of course when you look at photos like these you've got to understand such "Westernized" people comprised the richest few percent of Afghans, the upper-middles who ran things for them, and their clerical help; such people who could took off when the Stalinists took over, long before there was any real need to.

Outside the biggest metro areas it was always medieval, full of mullahs farking goats.