Alright, I got too late a start on the process this past year, not this time! This is a list of players I've compiled from a variety of sites and it's about 350 guys. It's all the notable seniors that I could find (top 15-25 at their respective positions) and then underclassmen who are projected in the top 2 or 3 rounds. What I want from the forward looking gurus here is additional guys that I should include so as we lead up to the college football season we have as many guys on our radar as possible. For the casual guys I'm sure you can use this to help you key on certain players throughout the process and hopefully I get some input so I can build this up over the upcoming years.

EDIT: Mods feel free to move this to the draft forum...put it in the wrong place.

I would do whatever is necessary to trade up and get Amari Cooper and kick Mike Wallace to the curb.

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We dont really save much from cutting him next year though if I recall. Cooper is a damn fine player though. After seeing another year of this linebacker crew though I might be looking for one of those

How far into the process have you gotten? I watch 5 games on each prospect. Finished RB, and OL, working on WR now. I'm saving QB for last, and so far I have 4 first round grades on the OL and 2 on RB's.

How far into the process have you gotten? I watch 5 games on each prospect. Finished RB, and OL, working on WR now. I'm saving QB for last, and so far I have 4 first round grades on the OL and 2 on RB's.

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Hahaha well...I've made a list... I've got a busy week so just looked at a couple of guys to get a feel for who I like. I watched a lot of Ogbeuhi before he decided to return to school and he probably would've been my #2 tackle this year. Watched Cameron Erving a fair bit too, really needs to clean up his technique but if he does that he could be a top 10 pick. Schreff I've heard great things about and I'm sure he'll get a first round grade out of me. Peat I'll have to wait and see on. I make criteria for each position so I'm always tweaking the grading and the traits I'm grading, so it takes me a fair bit of time to get it right, especially for position groups that I don't have a set system for yet. Ideally I'll have a top 50 together in a couple months, top 32 at the very least.

I hate saying anything too early in the process because as I watch more guys I tend to get a better feel for them and reassess, but my initial impressions of the 1 game I've watched of each of them is I really like Melvin Gordon, Andrus Peat was unimpressive, USC DT Leonard Williams could be in the top 5 mix with a solid year, Vic Beasley who I watched before last draft was thoroughly unimpressive (albeit this was me watching early in the process) and look like solely a pass rush specialist, like the physicallity of Denzel Perryman. That's all I got from some brief watching, very likely to change.

Hahaha well...I've made a list... I've got a busy week so just looked at a couple of guys to get a feel for who I like. I watched a lot of Ogbeuhi before he decided to return to school and he probably would've been my #2 tackle this year. Watched Cameron Erving a fair bit too, really needs to clean up his technique but if he does that he could be a top 10 pick. Schreff I've heard great things about and I'm sure he'll get a first round grade out of me. Peat I'll have to wait and see on. I make criteria for each position so I'm always tweaking the grading and the traits I'm grading, so it takes me a fair bit of time to get it right, especially for position groups that I don't have a set system for yet. Ideally I'll have a top 50 together in a couple months, top 32 at the very least.

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Hate to burst your bubble, but I gave Ogbuehi a 3rd round grade. Out of 5 games, I can count on one hand how many times he got inside hands in the run or pass. He's a pretty good athlete but terrible with his hands. Soft. No movement in the run game. Lacks any nastiness whatsoever. Lacks the hand use to protect the edge, lacks the size/strength to anchor against bull rushers, and oversets too often. A few games (notably LSU) he went against a mush rush so he basically did nothing. And they run the ball about 2 times a game. I look at him as a swing tackle with added value that he can play all 4 positions (started at RG in 2012). Will be overdrafted.

Peat received a top 5 grade for me. Not the best feet in the world, but makes up for it with outstanding length. In five games I saw him give up only two pressures, both for sacks, when he overset and gave up the inside shoulder. Also lost on 1 bull rush vs Tuitt when he got up high and didn't keep inside hands. But he still anchored enough not to give up the pressure. My only concern is his balance. He spends wayyyyyy to much time on the ground in the run game. Especially vs USC in 2013. He is not a good 2nd level blocker because of this. But you're drafting him to be a pass protector, not a 2nd level blocker. He has the potential to be an All-Pro Left Tackle for a very long time.

I don't think Erving is a Franchise Left Tackle. He oversets way too often, and doesn't anchor well. He still got a 1st round grade but not top 10. I like Scherff more, but he is exclusively a right tackle. Lacks the feet to mirror speed rushers at the NFL. But he's a nasty son of a ***** in the run game. You want him at Right Tackle to generate movement. He'll also overset and give a two way go as well.

Hate to burst your bubble, but I gave Ogbuehi a 3rd round grade. Out of 5 games, I can count on one hand how many times he got inside hands in the run or pass. He's a pretty good athlete but terrible with his hands. Soft. No movement in the run game. Lacks any nastiness whatsoever. Lacks the hand use to protect the edge, lacks the size/strength to anchor against bull rushers, and oversets too often. A few games (notably LSU) he went against a mush rush so he basically did nothing. And they run the ball about 2 times a game. I look at him as a swing tackle with added value that he can play all 4 positions (started at RG in 2012). Will be overdrafted.

Peat received a top 5 grade for me. Not the best feet in the world, but makes up for it with outstanding length. In five games I saw him give up only two pressures, both for sacks, when he overset and gave up the inside shoulder. Also lost on 1 bull rush vs Tuitt when he got up high and didn't keep inside hands. But he still anchored enough not to give up the pressure. My only concern is his balance. He spends wayyyyyy to much time on the ground in the run game. Especially vs USC in 2013. He is not a good 2nd level blocker because of this. But you're drafting him to be a pass protector, not a 2nd level blocker. He has the potential to be an All-Pro Left Tackle for a very long time.

I don't think Erving is a Franchise Left Tackle. He oversets way too often, and doesn't anchor well. He still got a 1st round grade but not top 10. I like Scherff more, but he is exclusively a right tackle. Lacks the feet to mirror speed rushers at the NFL. But he's a nasty son of a ***** in the run game. You want him at Right Tackle to generate movement. He'll also overset and give a two way go as well.

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You're not bursting any bubble haha...I don't have anything I watched in writing yet and it's a learning process. But I recall that I really like how Ogbuehi uses his length and he's a very quality athlete. Chances are I'll disagree with you on him, but not until I get a fresh look at everyone.

You're not bursting any bubble haha...I don't have anything I watched in writing yet and it's a learning process. But I recall that I really like how Ogbuehi uses his length and he's a very quality athlete. Chances are I'll disagree with you on him, but not until I get a fresh look at everyone.

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No disputing his athleticism, I just don't really like the player. He gets abused by Dee Ford as well, ended up costing A&M the game. I'm hoping to have a top 25 done by the end of the week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLWYpqYAt3U
Particularly the back to back plays at 1:55...hadn't seen him look that bad until I saw that one. But ya, opinion will come at a later date haha...playing some serious patty cake in that game tho.

Pretty sure he's only a sophomore but when you watch Notre Dame, keep an eye on Jaylon Smith. I think he will be pretty good. He played high school fb very very close to me and I got to see him destroy our towns team in sectionals (I believe) he did it all for them, god mode against our little hick town lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLWYpqYAt3U
Particularly the back to back plays at 1:55...hadn't seen him look that bad until I saw that one. But ya, opinion will come at a later date haha...playing some serious patty cake in that game tho.

Like with Erving I think this year is big for their development.

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If you think that's bad make sure you watch the last two plays of the game.

If you think that's bad make sure you watch the last two plays of the game.

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This is absolutely correct. It's why I don't subscribe to the theory that Ja'Wuan James was this tremendous reach at #19 while in the same breath a kid like Ogbuehi is a top 10 pick. Dee Ford devastated Cedric Ogbuehi... while Ja'Wuan James completely neutralized Ford one-on-one. I hear a lot of folks talk about a kid like Joel Bitonio as if he's somehow in the same class as Ja'Wuan James in pass protection, but he's just not. This was made clear at the Senior Bowl. You're talking about a kid who's even built like a guard and moves like a guard rather than an offensive tackle.

Brandon Scherff is the head of the class in my opinion for the 2015 class of offensive tackles. Love the way this kid plays.

By the way, this is a nice thread but there's quite a few players that can be added. Specifically outstanding JUCO players that are ready to explode this year make a name for themselves and probably be one and done type players. As far as Alabama goes, I think Jarran Reed is one. He put us all on notice at Alabama's spring game that he's ready. Unblockable.

Also WR Chris Black. He's ready to explode. Black is just as talented and just as highly recruited as Amari Cooper was coming out of high school. Actually, he even edged out Amari Cooper for the top spot at WR in Alabama's 2012 class. He was ready to break out as a freshman until he took a hit from Ryan Anderson in fall practice, suffered and injury that forced him to redshirt. Instead, it was Cooper that broke out as a freshman. Chris has worked hard, perservered, and is ready. Mark my words, he'll establish himself early in the season and earn that name back. Shooting up the boards of draftniks everywhere in the process.

How far into the process have you gotten? I watch 5 games on each prospect. Finished RB, and OL, working on WR now. I'm saving QB for last, and so far I have 4 first round grades on the OL and 2 on RB's.

ekpro olomu and amari cooper would have been top 20 picks had they come out in this class...olomu shut down marquise lee even had him so frustrated with the physicality he was crying to the officials most of the game...you wanna talk about a tackling corner that is the guy...antoine winfield like tackler and physical player...only question there is he needs to come in at 5 ft 10 plus to validate a potential top 10 grade...can man the slot and play the boundary...

would have been the top corner on my board had he come out...coops special also

agree that sherff is the top tackle of iowa...they got a special corner coming up also but he's only a sophomore...a year away but he's a stud...

jake mcgee is a tight end i've been pimping for a while he's transferring to florida the gators are getting a good one i would love to see lazor target him in 2015 given they have worked together...red zone and flex mismatch not much of a blocker but will be surprised if it's still on the board after day 2 next year

the wisconsin back melvin gordon is like a cross between chris johnson and jamaal charles...special kid there...no doubt there's gonna be some first round pick rbs in next years class

i dont see it with dorian green backham...looks slow i see the size and all but i dont see the separation...plays high 4.6's imo...large catch radius likely will get overdrafted

i think the miami tight end walford is interesting but it's in an hback kind of way...still he's a pro and the most interesting prospect of the canes outside of duke johnson...walfords underrated...you couldnt talk me into a pick on denzel perryman

ekpro olomu and amari cooper would have been top 20 picks had they come out in this class...olomu shut down marquise lee even had him so frustrated with the physicality he was crying to the officials most of the game...you wanna talk about a tackling corner that is the guy...antoine winfield like tackler and physical player...only question there is he needs to come in at 5 ft 10 plus to validate a potential top 10 grade...can man the slot and play the boundary...

would have been the top corner on my board had he come out...coops special also

agree that sherff is the top tackle of iowa...they got a special corner coming up also but he's only a sophomore...a year away but he's a stud...

jake mcgee is a tight end i've been pimping for a while he's transferring to florida the gators are getting a good one i would love to see lazor target him in 2015 given they have worked together...red zone and flex mismatch not much of a blocker but will be surprised if it's still on the board after day 2 next year

the wisconsin back melvin gordon is like a cross between chris johnson and jamaal charles...special kid there...no doubt there's gonna be some first round pick rbs in next years class

i dont see it with dorian green backham...looks slow i see the size and all but i dont see the separation...plays high 4.6's imo...large catch radius likely will get overdrafted

i think the miami tight end walford is interesting but it's in an hback kind of way...still he's a pro and the most interesting prospect of the canes outside of duke johnson...walfords underrated...you couldnt talk me into a pick on denzel perryman

This is absolutely correct. It's why I don't subscribe to the theory that Ja'Wuan James was this tremendous reach at #19 while in the same breath a kid like Ogbuehi is a top 10 pick. Dee Ford devastated Cedric Ogbuehi... while Ja'Wuan James completely neutralized Ford one-on-one. I hear a lot of folks talk about a kid like Joel Bitonio as if he's somehow in the same class as Ja'Wuan James in pass protection, but he's just not. This was made clear at the Senior Bowl. You're talking about a kid who's even built like a guard and moves like a guard rather than an offensive tackle.

Brandon Scherff is the head of the class in my opinion for the 2015 class of offensive tackles. Love the way this kid plays.

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I had James #24 overall, and currently have a 3rd round grade on Ogbuehi. He looks like a swing tackle to me, with added versatility to play both guard spots.

I love Brandon Scherff, just not on the left side. He's a mauling run blocker. Drove Shazier into the sideline on back to back plays to open the game. He oversets to often, and lacks the foot quickness to mirror top of the line edge rushers on the left side. But I like him a lot on the right.

Andrus Peat is my clear cut #1 tackle. He spends way to much time on the ground in the run game, especially vs USC. Over extends and not a fluid 2nd level blocker. But as a pass protector, I only charted two sacks and no other pressures in 5 games. Both times he overset and gave up the inside rush lane. Doesn't have elite foot quickness, but mirrors extremely well and does a great job utilizing his outstanding length.

I'm about half way through a list of top 25 players for next draft. It's extremely fluid, because there will be a player come out of nowhere and be a top 10 pick, which happens almost every year. But it's a good way to kick start the next draft.

ekpro olomu and amari cooper would have been top 20 picks had they come out in this class...olomu shut down marquise lee even had him so frustrated with the physicality he was crying to the officials most of the game...you wanna talk about a tackling corner that is the guy...antoine winfield like tackler and physical player...only question there is he needs to come in at 5 ft 10 plus to validate a potential top 10 grade...can man the slot and play the boundary...

would have been the top corner on my board had he come out...coops special also

agree that sherff is the top tackle of iowa...they got a special corner coming up also but he's only a sophomore...a year away but he's a stud...

jake mcgee is a tight end i've been pimping for a while he's transferring to florida the gators are getting a good one i would love to see lazor target him in 2015 given they have worked together...red zone and flex mismatch not much of a blocker but will be surprised if it's still on the board after day 2 next year

the wisconsin back melvin gordon is like a cross between chris johnson and jamaal charles...special kid there...no doubt there's gonna be some first round pick rbs in next years class

i dont see it with dorian green backham...looks slow i see the size and all but i dont see the separation...plays high 4.6's imo...large catch radius likely will get overdrafted

i think the miami tight end walford is interesting but it's in an hback kind of way...still he's a pro and the most interesting prospect of the canes outside of duke johnson...walfords underrated...you couldnt talk me into a pick on denzel perryman

the ogbuehi grades around here were always inflated...

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Ogbuehi sucks. Walford has poor ball skills. Started to break him down mid season last year, but stopped after charting too many drops. I got a top 25 list in the works as we speak. Just have QB's WR's DE's and DB's to get too, and there is a lot of them at each position to break down this year.

ekpro olomu and amari cooper would have been top 20 picks had they come out in this class...olomu shut down marquise lee even had him so frustrated with the physicality he was crying to the officials most of the game...you wanna talk about a tackling corner that is the guy...antoine winfield like tackler and physical player...only question there is he needs to come in at 5 ft 10 plus to validate a potential top 10 grade...can man the slot and play the boundary...

would have been the top corner on my board had he come out...coops special also

agree that sherff is the top tackle of iowa...they got a special corner coming up also but he's only a sophomore...a year away but he's a stud...

jake mcgee is a tight end i've been pimping for a while he's transferring to florida the gators are getting a good one i would love to see lazor target him in 2015 given they have worked together...red zone and flex mismatch not much of a blocker but will be surprised if it's still on the board after day 2 next year

the wisconsin back melvin gordon is like a cross between chris johnson and jamaal charles...special kid there...no doubt there's gonna be some first round pick rbs in next years class

i dont see it with dorian green backham...looks slow i see the size and all but i dont see the separation...plays high 4.6's imo...large catch radius likely will get overdrafted

i think the miami tight end walford is interesting but it's in an hback kind of way...still he's a pro and the most interesting prospect of the canes outside of duke johnson...walfords underrated...you couldnt talk me into a pick on denzel perryman

Is that after a trade up? I think Smith will improve at least a little, and the returning team is more or less the same - with some decent additions. I'm missing how this looks at all like a 4-12 (or worse) team. And to pick Mariota over Winston . . . I'll give them a couple months to change it. No way that stands. Winston's instincts and intelligence are in another galaxy compared to Mariota - whose instincts look shaky to me. The concerns for moving him down are valid, but if you're talking about these two QB's, I'd rather bet on Winston keeping his nose clean than Martiota as a QB. Slimm called it in the draft forum, but I completely agree that Hundley is a better prospect than Mariota. He makes more mistakes than you'd like, but he's the much more instinctual QB, and he has much better physical traits. If anyone's jumping Winston, I think it's Hundley.

Is that after a trade up? I think Smith will improve at least a little, and the returning team is more or less the same - with some decent additions. I'm missing how this looks at all like a 4-12 (or worse) team. And to pick Mariota over Winston . . . I'll give them a couple months to change it. No way that stands. Winston's instincts and intelligence are in another galaxy compared to Mariota - whose instincts look shaky to me. The concerns for moving him down are valid, but if you're talking about these two QB's, I'd rather bet on Winston keeping his nose clean than Martiota as a QB. Slimm called it in the draft forum, but I completely agree that Hundley is a better prospect than Mariota. He makes more mistakes than you'd like, but he's the much more instinctual QB, and he has much better physical traits. If anyone's jumping Winston, I think it's Hundley.

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They have Jameis Winston going 2nd overall to the Raiders. I don't think the Jets will be so bad that they get the first overall pick. No, they don't have the Jets trading up to #1, Walter just feels Vick and Chris Johnson will be a cancer on the Jets. I also doubt the Phins would take a RB with the 10th overall pick, even though I like Gurley.

Ogbuehi sucks. Walford has poor ball skills. Started to break him down mid season last year, but stopped after charting too many drops. I got a top 25 list in the works as we speak. Just have QB's WR's DE's and DB's to get too, and there is a lot of them at each position to break down this year.

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Walford looks the part from a move athlete aspect but I will take your word on the ball skills...sounds like he fights the football...agreed on sherff mauling run blocker...I like what I see but it's probably more ideally suited for the right side...

Mariota as the top qb baffles me...unless you are gonna run some gimmick nfl offense I just don't see it...I could care less if he can run in college for 70 yard tds...

Walford looks the part from a move athlete aspect but I will take your word on the ball skills...sounds like he fights the football...agreed on sherff mauling run blocker...I like what I see but it's probably more ideally suited for the right side...

Mariota as the top qb baffles me...unless you are gonna run some gimmick nfl offense I just don't see it...I could care less if he can run in college for 70 yard tds...

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Jameis. Best player in college football the past two years. Anyone who passes him up that needs a QB is a fool. Also Leonard Williams is the best non QB by far. I think he will be the best 5 technique in the league after JJ Watt.

Randy Gregory is completely overrated also. He's 6'6 with athleticism but has no clue how to rush the passer. Lewan stoned him countless times. He just runs down the middle of people and he gets his sacks off of hustle plays, or when they move him around.

Vic Beasley is by far the best edge rusher as of now. He is undersized (listed at around 235) but does EVERYTHING as a rusher. The most complete rusher I've seen in college since Von Miller. Von is on a different level athletically, but Beasley will do everything you want. Can dip and bend around the edge, convert speed to power, and counter inside. If you wanna see all that come into fruition watch this cut up..

Jameis. Best player in college football the past two years. Anyone who passes him up that needs a QB is a fool. Also Leonard Williams is the best non QB by far. I think he will be the best 5 technique in the league after JJ Watt.

Randy Gregory is completely overrated also. He's 6'6 with athleticism but has no clue how to rush the passer. Lewan stoned him countless times. He just runs down the middle of people and he gets his sacks off of hustle plays, or when they move him around.

Vic Beasley is by far the best edge rusher as of now. He is undersized (listed at around 235) but does EVERYTHING as a rusher. The most complete rusher I've seen in college since Von Miller. Von is on a different level athletically, but Beasley will do everything you want. Can dip and bend around the edge, convert speed to power, and counter inside. If you wanna see all that come into fruition watch this cut up..

By the way, this is a nice thread but there's quite a few players that can be added. Specifically outstanding JUCO players that are ready to explode this year make a name for themselves and probably be one and done type players. As far as Alabama goes, I think Jarran Reed is one. He put us all on notice at Alabama's spring game that he's ready. Unblockable.

Also WR Chris Black. He's ready to explode. Black is just as talented and just as highly recruited as Amari Cooper was coming out of high school. Actually, he even edged out Amari Cooper for the top spot at WR in Alabama's 2012 class. He was ready to break out as a freshman until he took a hit from Ryan Anderson in fall practice, suffered and injury that forced him to redshirt. Instead, it was Cooper that broke out as a freshman. Chris has worked hard, perservered, and is ready. Mark my words, he'll establish himself early in the season and earn that name back. Shooting up the boards of draftniks everywhere in the process.

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Honestly I'd love you to share a few if you can, I got some from your prospect lists too but really I'm just trying to populate it as best I can right now.

Jameis. Best player in college football the past two years. Anyone who passes him up that needs a QB is a fool. Also Leonard Williams is the best non QB by far. I think he will be the best 5 technique in the league after JJ Watt.

Randy Gregory is completely overrated also. He's 6'6 with athleticism but has no clue how to rush the passer. Lewan stoned him countless times. He just runs down the middle of people and he gets his sacks off of hustle plays, or when they move him around.

Vic Beasley is by far the best edge rusher as of now. He is undersized (listed at around 235) but does EVERYTHING as a rusher. The most complete rusher I've seen in college since Von Miller. Von is on a different level athletically, but Beasley will do everything you want. Can dip and bend around the edge, convert speed to power, and counter inside. If you wanna see all that come into fruition watch this cut up..

Yeah I have seen Plenty of Beasley he has edge rush tools for sure...run d leaves a lot to be desired...situational rusher pro IMO from the jump...better overall rush talents than dee ford but in a lighter package