Kissinger was no hero and he is one of the first examples of why the Nobel peace prize is bogus.

The man was instrumental in non peaceful takeovers (along with the CIA) to fund rebellions to "elect" leaders that were more likely to be economical
best buddies with the US when it came to the "election."

What I find hilarious is that people say men like him will burn in hell!!! No not really... They know about Karma and natural law. That is why they
get order followers to actually carry out the deed, thus diverting the karmic load off of them. There would not be a single mass genocide or holocaust
without order followers. So in ways yes he is correct, although due more out of ignorance than being truly stupid.

1. Soviet Jews: “The emigration of Jews from the Soviet Union is not an objective of American foreign policy. And if they put Jews into gas chambers
in the Soviet Union, it is not an American concern. Maybe a humanitarian concern.” (link)

2. Bombing Cambodia: “[Nixon] wants a massive bombing campaign in Cambodia. He doesn't want to hear anything about it. It's an order, to be done.
Anything that flies or anything that moves.” (link)
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3. Bombing Vietnam: "It's wave after wave of planes. You see, they can't see the B-52 and they dropped a million pounds of bombs ... I bet you we will
have had more planes over there in one day than Johnson had in a month ... each plane can carry about 10 times the load of World War II plane could
carry." (link)

4. Khmer Rouge: “How many people did (Khmer Rouge Foreign Minister Ieng Sary) kill? Tens of thousands? You should tell the Cambodians (i.e., Khmer
Rouge) that we will be friends with them. They are murderous thugs, but we won’t let that stand in the way. We are prepared to improve relations
with them. Tell them the latter part, but don’t tell them what I said before.” (Nov. 26, 1975 meeting with Thai foreign minister)

5. Dan Ellsberg: “Because that son-of-a-bitch—First of all, I would expect—I know him well—I am sure he has some more information---I would
bet that he has more information that he’s saving for the trial. Examples of American war crimes that triggered him into it…It’s the way he’d
operate….Because he is a despicable bastard.” (Oval Office tape, July 27, 1971)

7. Assassination: “It is an act of insanity and national humiliation to have a law prohibiting the President from ordering assassination.”
(Statement at a National Security Council meeting, 1975)

8. Chile: “I don't see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist due to the irresponsibility of its people. The issues are much too
important for the Chilean voters to be left to decide for themselves.” (link)

10. On His Own Character: “Americans like the cowboy … who rides all alone into the town, the village, with his horse and nothing else … This
amazing, romantic character suits me precisely because to be alone has always been part of my style or, if you like, my technique.” (November 1972
interview with Oriana Fallaci) The Top 10 Most Inhuman Henry Kissinger Quotes

Do you really think this reality is designed that way in regards to responsibility? This reality seems pretty impressive and something like offloading
karmic consequences for decisions and orders onto others seems pretty far fetched. I would bet that he received the greatest amount of karmic
consequences, if indeed the order originated with him and he wasn't just a simple mouthpiece passing along the directives from above.

Interesting thought on karma though. I wonder, do the troops that provide logistics and support share in the karma of killing another human even when
it was from the actions of the troops on the front?

I have some problems with judging Kissinger on this quote. First of all, Kissinger served in the Army, so he, himself, was a "military man."
Secondly. this quote came out of the Woodward & Bernstein book "The Final Days" and the context around the quote was simply that Kissinger was
throwing insulting comments at WH Chief of Staff Alexander Haig... the two men hated each other by all accounts and were perpetually slinging insults
and beef at each other. In that context, which fits perfectly within what we know of the two men, Kissinger was making a statement he likely didn't
personally believe purely because he knew it would sting Haig.

For those who hate Kissinger, remember... Henry Kissinger is probably the only reason Nixon didn't use nukes in Vietnam. The Nixon tapes confirm that
Nixon was infatuated with the idea and, everytime he raised it as a strategy, Kissinger told him it was a bad idea that would result in a massive
public and international backlash. Halderman and later Haig were not vocal proponents against that idea.

That makes a lot of sense. However, I will take a military person over a politician any day of the week. Pols are the scum of the earth and I pray
they all have a special place in the deepest depth of Hates to rot away for eternity.

Oh, I agree with you there. Although you take someone like John McCain... is he a military guy or a politician? The military portion was heroic
while the political career has been one act of cowardice and doublecross after another. It's possible Kissinger was cut from a similar cloth and left
all the bravery he had as an Army man long behind him once he traded in the uniform for a drab suit and tie... I don't know.

Do you really think this reality is designed that way in regards to responsibility? This reality seems pretty impressive and something like offloading
karmic consequences for decisions and orders onto others seems pretty far fetched. I would bet that he received the greatest amount of karmic
consequences, if indeed the order originated with him and he wasn't just a simple mouthpiece passing along the directives from above.

Interesting thought on karma though. I wonder, do the troops that provide logistics and support share in the karma of killing another human even when
it was from the actions of the troops on the front?

Well, the way I believe it works, yes. Even the taxpayer at home watching The Voice who's taxes helped pay for everything from the gas in the vehicle
that got the soldier to the war zone, to the uniform he wears, to the bullet he puts in someone's head... that tax payer has some share in Any harm
caused by the military they support financially. So, it IS divided amongst over 350million people, but, it's also a LOT of Bad Karma.

Especially if even a fraction of the rumors are true about our CIA, Mind Control experiments, PizzaGate, Franklin Cover-up, Black Projects, Horrifying
AI torture-learning chambers in deep underground militarybases..

We may even be paying for the death, destruction, enslavement, etc, of beings on other worlds if our secret space program is anywhere near the levels
I've read about.

You voted these people in and you allow a portion of every penny you earn to be given to these people to decide what to spend Your Money, OUR MONEY,
on.

For example:

If you didnt agree with the iraq/Afghanistan wars, you should have protested, organized an impeachment and prosecution for war crimes of Bush and
Cheney, and stopped paying all taxes except where Absolutely necessary for your survival, and if none of that worked, you should have either A) tried
harder to stop/prevent the war to the point you ended up in prison(but not hurt anyone or rack up more bad karma), or B) left the country or went off
grid in our wilderness so your actions do not support crimes against humanity.

Otherwise you're complicit and have a lot of karma to work off so I hope you are a really, really, really ridiculously good, kind, helpful, generous,
loving caring person...

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
I have some problems with judging Kissinger on this quote. First of all, Kissinger served in the Army, so he, himself, was a "military man."
Secondly. this quote came out of the Woodward & Bernstein book "The Final Days" and the context around the quote was simply that Kissinger was
throwing insulting comments at WH Chief of Staff Alexander Haig... the two men hated each other by all accounts and were perpetually slinging insults
and beef at each other. In that context, which fits perfectly within what we know of the two men, Kissinger was making a statement he likely didn't
personally believe purely because he knew it would sting Haig.

For those who hate Kissinger, remember... Henry Kissinger is probably the only reason Nixon didn't use nukes in Vietnam. The Nixon tapes confirm that
Nixon was infatuated with the idea and, everytime he raised it as a strategy, Kissinger told him it was a bad idea that would result in a massive
public and international backlash. Halderman and later Haig were not vocal proponents against that idea.

I wonder. .if we were to hop over to the timeline where he ignored Kissinger and used nukes... and that public and international backlash
happened...

Wow, this is pretty cold. If this is how he feels about our service men can you imagine what he thinks about the American people!

Putting your appeal to emotion aside, I'd say he is correct.

Ever read the book written by General Smedley Butler, "War is a racket"?

I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big
Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe
for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in
the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of
Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the
American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have
given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents

Of course, there is no proof that Kissinger actually said what you quoted. It came from a claim made in a Woodward and Bernstein book. But if he did,
he would be correct.

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