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I bit perplexed as having a hard time matching up what look like signatures, but sort of looks like multiple artists painted and signed..

I bet you will have have answers form the pros before I have a can even decipher this in part..

Most glass that was used by these Shandong students was purchased from the Boshan glass shops. As you must have noticed, a different feel than most glass. If your correct on the possible date, then between the 1868 and 1928 choices, it makes more sense at 1928.. I am having a bit of a hard time with this to Marcos. But am searching ...

That is an interesting Shandong bottle. It looks like it could almost be 1868, but I'm not sure the Shandong artists were painting that early. I could have seen 1890s, but based on the cyclical date it has to be either 1868 or 1928, so it must be the latter.

George's comment that it looks like multiple artists and signatures, sounds interesting, and indeed it looks like a scroll done as a joint effort by a number of artists.

I'm not an expert on Shandong. Better Steven, Charll, or Pat. But I will be waiting to see how they weigh in.Best,Joey

What if it is a really good fake, done in the 1980s in a late 19th C. bottle to fool collectors. It could be faded by being put in direct sunlight. Just a wild guess. I also thought it could be earlier. How early do we find Shandong work?Best,Joey

Yes, George did make out the date, my question is that will you make out the date range of the glass bottle itself , not the date the bottle being painted. If the glass bottle is dated before early period , then this painting can be a early bottle.

Sorry. I did not understand what you wanted before. And I'm also sorry, but I don't collect Shandong bottles. The best to ask are Charll, George, Pat, Pin, or yourself. I thought the bottle looked ca.1880-1920.But I'm not an expert on Shandong. It is very funny - we know more and more about less and less, until we know everything about nothing! (I did not make this up; someone else did!).Best,Joey

This is a genuine 1928 bottle like many in my collection ... Remember the Shandong artists never stopped painting even during the war and occupation years. This is likely Wen Quan, Ru Ting or Zhang Wentang based on date.

my question is that how a early period artist paint it on a late 19th glass bottle?

I don't think it wrong. If Early Period painting is 1800 to 1870, then it would be correct for an Early artist ( 19th century ) painting in a 19th glass bottle. What am I missing in your question Steven ?

Marcos, a little more about Boshan/Po Shan glass..

This is from an article, Inside Painted Snuff Bottles of the Shantung School", A Stempel, Arts Of Asia, December, 1976.

( Also for Joey ) "The art in Shandong/Shantung area goes back to 1890, with at least one known bottle bearing that date, but the top quality referred to dates from only the 1970's. To fully understand the origin of this school, it must be realized that Po Shan has been and still is one of the three major glass manufacturing areas in China. Po Shan has been a glass center for about 400 years, certainly well back into the Ming dynasty, and when a continuing source was needed to fill the ever increasing demand in Peking, not so far away, for bottles which the resurrected art of painting could be carried out, it was the obvious choice. ( I ( the author ) use the term "resurrected" because inside painted bottles were produced in China much earlier in the nineteenth century, during a period known as the "Early School", but in much smaller numbers than at the end of the century. It is not certain if Peking was the only center of this earlier painting, but there is little reason to doubt that Po Shan was the source of the glass bottles even then.)"

On a side note Marcos. In my previous post where I tell of Boshan being the source, here it is spelled Po Shan. I can not recall where I picked up my Boshan spelling from.

This is a genuine 1928 bottle like many in my collection ... Remember the Shandong artists never stopped painting even during the war and occupation years. This is likely Wen Quan, Ru Ting or Zhang Wentang based on date.

I agreed with Pat and many others on the 20th assumption.The overlay glass quality does not look 19th, moreover most of the early works are not painted on glass especially overlay. I have bottles from DuSong JuShi, YiRu JuShi and Gan XuanWen which are all crystals.