The throwing of a spiral has more to do with the grip on a football than the size of the hand.

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Originally Posted by infantrycak

I didn't say anything about not big enough and Texian it has nothing to do with "in relation to football." Bortles as a much bigger guy has marginally larger hands. That is not a comment that either is too small. It is more an observation on the commentary to date. Their hand size is insignificantly different to the eye and yet the larger Bortles was never questioned about it, i.e. this has all been created controversy over the glove or just people repeating things about TB.

It has everything to do with "The Football". The whole reason they measure "Hand Size" is to know how it fits to the circumference of the football. Basic physics. A BIGGER throwing hand is advantageous in bad weather and in general ball security.

I didn't say anything about not big enough and Texian it has nothing to do with "in relation to football." Bortles as a much bigger guy has marginally larger hands. That is not a comment that either is too small. It is more an observation on the commentary to date. Their hand size is insignificantly different to the eye and yet the larger Bortles was never questioned about it, i.e. this has all been created controversy over the glove or just people repeating things about TB.

You mess with Bortles you mess with Texian , you've be n warned . Kinda like Renfield and Dracula , Tom and Jerry , Abbott and Costello , Mustard and Ketchup , and peas and carrots .

Not necessarily, if Bortles shows he can't throw the ball 40 yds HE'S OUT. Unlike the Teddy Fanatics I'm not married to Bortles. In fact over the course of the season I have changed opinions a couple of times. Unlike Teddy Fanatics who have been all-in on Teddy since the 2013 Sugar Bowl. Until I see another QB who can WIN games in the last 2 minutes as well or better than Bortles has proved he can do, Bortles is the man.

Part of the reason many of the armchair pretend scouts in the media are 100% committed to Teddy is because they were neck deep in their affirmation and coronation of Teddy before the 2013 season even started. One of the big flaws in the human character is the inability to admit one is wrong or admitting a mistake as is the case with many armchair pretend scouts in the media. When Teddy turns out to be Sam Bradford the Teddy Fanatics will say they knew it all along.

Not necessarily, if Bortles shows he can't throw the ball 40 yds HE'S OUT. Unlike the Teddy Fanatics I'm not married to Bortles. In fact over the course of the season I have changed opinions a couple of times. Unlike Teddy Fanatics who have been all-in on Teddy since the 2013 Sugar Bowl. Until I see another QB who can WIN games in the last 2 minutes as well or better than Bortles has proved he can do, Bortles is the man.

Part of the reason many of the armchair pretend scouts in the media are 100% committed to Teddy is because they were neck deep in their affirmation and coronation of Teddy before the 2013 season even started. One of the big flaws in the human character is the inability to admit one is wrong or admitting a mistake as is the case with many armchair pretend scouts in the media. When Teddy turns out to be Sam Bradford the Teddy Fanatics will say they knew it all along.

What if Teddy turns out to be Rogers ? You gonna say you were wrong ?

I don't know anyone on this board who is set in stone about their QB choice except about three posters . Their QB choices are Bortles , Manziel , and McCarron . Now name that poster .

The throwing of a spiral has more to do with the grip on a football than the size of the hand.

It has everything to do with "The Football". The whole reason they measure "Hand Size" is to know how it fits to the circumference of the football. Basic physics. A BIGGER throwing hand is advantageous in bad weather and in general ball security.

The throwing of a spiral has more to do with the grip on a football than the size of the hand.

Do you even read some of the stuff you type? The grip on a football most often times is a direct result of the size of the hand genius. Most guys with small hands can't grip the ball well b/c it's too large around the area where the threads are. Their hands just don't have a large enough surface area to rest the ball on. This limits the amount of the ball the index finger can wrap around the smaller part of the ball..and since the index is the main contributor in creating spin on the ball and it's the last finger off the ball...........

If the Texans select Bridgewater I'm giddy about that weight. The only reason I questioned it was because he was listed at 205 two years ago & 195 last year. He looked every bit of 195. However his proponents argued he lost weight due to off season surgery.

He had plenty of time to put weight on during the season. Not doing so would lead me to believe he's naturally thin & a hard gainer.

214 tells me he did add weight during y get season & probably played between 205~210. I'm disappointed he isn't a true 6'3" but what I've seen makes that negligible.

Not necessarily, if Bortles shows he can't throw the ball 40 yds HE'S OUT. Unlike the Teddy Fanatics I'm not married to Bortles. In fact over the course of the season I have changed opinions a couple of times. Unlike Teddy Fanatics who have been all-in on Teddy since the 2013 Sugar Bowl. Until I see another QB who can WIN games in the last 2 minutes as well or better than Bortles has proved he can do, Bortles is the man.

Part of the reason many of the armchair pretend scouts in the media are 100% committed to Teddy is because they were neck deep in their affirmation and coronation of Teddy before the 2013 season even started. One of the big flaws in the human character is the inability to admit one is wrong or admitting a mistake as is the case with many armchair pretend scouts in the media. When Teddy turns out to be Sam Bradford the Teddy Fanatics will say they knew it all along.

If you're a Teddy Fanatic this is a slap in the face, which it definitely is not. It is only a perceived negative because of a presumed BIAS. Gil only stated the obvious that many people thought Teddy would've BIGGER hands, Gil NEVER said that Teddy's hands were to small, only that they were expected to be BIGGER. Because Gil didn't express a positive or adoration, of course now he has an agenda, which he doesn't. It's only perceived in the minds of Teddy fans.

If the Texans select Bridgewater I'm giddy about that weight. The only reason I questioned it was because he was listed at 205 two years ago & 195 last year. He looked every bit of 195. However his proponents argued he lost weight due to off season surgery.

That's because he did. He lost probably about 10 lbs because of it.

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss

He had plenty of time to put weight on during the season. Not doing so would lead me to believe he's naturally thin & a hard gainer.

Not exactly true. It's really hard to put on weight during a season. You're always doing conditioning to stay in shape. You put on weight during the offseason.

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss

214 tells me he did add weight during y get season & probably played between 205~210. I'm disappointed he isn't a true 6'3" but what I've seen makes that negligible.

IMO, he got up to about 205 for this season and then recently added 10 lbs between the end of the season and the combine because his agent told him to. 6'2 or 6'3 doesn't really matter to me. They're basically the same. Sure he's not 6'5, but he's also not 5'11.