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Interesting, I Was Wathching Bb Press Conference After The Moss Trade, And He Stated He Learned More From Gabriel Than Anybody About Moss, So He Must Of Put The Godd Words In For Him, Funny How Things Work Out

What Gabriel was probably able to impart to BB that he would have found of interest, was his "teammate" qualities. If I recall correctly, Gabriel said that Moss was an excellent mentor and very encouraging to him. In other words, NOT a locker room cancer.

If you read the latest Tomase article, BB was contacted by Moss during the Deion Branch fiasco. Moss told Belichick that he would love to play for the Pats. The Pats didn't trade for him at that time probably because the Raiders would've wanted a 1st round pick.

If you read the latest Tomase article, BB was contacted by Moss during the Deion Branch fiasco. Moss told Belichick that he would love to play for the Pats. The Pats didn't trade for him at that time probably because the Raiders would've wanted a 1st round pick.

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Note well, it was all done through intermediaries. Otherwise it could be grounds for tampering. BB made that very clear a few days ago. Yes, it's semantics, but it seems that all involved are being very very careful re: the wording of that story.

Somewhat overlooked in this discussion - Gabriel must have also had very good things to tell Moss about the Pats and the organization, despite his unceremonious mid-season dumping.

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Completely agree. Unless Gabriel was thinking to himself "How am I sure to make this squad? If I get rid of Moss by telling him good things about the Pat's and he goes there, I can take plays off all by myself."

Note well, it was all done through intermediaries. Otherwise it could be grounds for tampering. BB made that very clear a few days ago. Yes, it's semantics, but it seems that all involved are being very very careful re: the wording of that story.

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I'm pretty sure that any contact between a player under contract and another team even if it is done through intermediaries can be considered tampering. Not that the league will do anything about it.

I'm pretty sure that any contact between a player under contract and another team even if it is done through intermediaries can be considered tampering. Not that the league will do anything about it.

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I'm pretty sure it's only tampering if the team initiates the contact. Moss telling a friend to tell the Pats that he would love to play for them, isn't tampering on the Patriots part. I'm not sure what kind of rules there are governing player tampering, but there isn't anything in that scenario that can get the team in trouble.

I'm pretty sure it's only tampering if the team initiates the contact. Moss telling a friend to tell the Pats that he would love to play for them, isn't tampering on the Patriots part. I'm not sure what kind of rules there are governing player tampering, but there isn't anything in that scenario that can get the team in trouble.

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We don't know how the Patriots responded to Moss' contact, so they could be completely innocent. I think this gives a little insight into it.

HERALD HINTS AT MOSS TAMPERING

John Tomase of the Boston Herald has penned a couple of compelling pieces regarding the Patriots' latest acquisition, receiver Randy Moss.

In one item, Tomase talks about the high school incident that might have directly contributed to the cautious, mistrusting demeanor that Moss has projected for more than a decade.

In the other, Tomase suggests that the Patriots might have tampered with Moss while he was a Raider.

Tomase mentions the "T" word in connection with a report from ESPN that Pats coach Bill Belichick worked Moss out during the offseason and came away convinced that Moss still has it. But if the workout occurred after Moss received permission from the Raiders to seek a trade partner, it's not tampering.

The potentially stronger evidence of tampering is the revelation in Tomase's article that Moss reached out to Belichick through an intermediary during the 2006 season. If the Raiders had not given Moss permission to shop himself at the time, and if the New England response was anything more than "by rule, we cannot speak with you or anyone on your behalf," then that could constitute tampering.

But none of it matters. The NFL won't do anything about it, even if the Raiders were to complain. The anti-tampering provision does not stop tampering, because violations of it are never penalized; we're starting to think that the rule remains on the books simply to keep the tampering from being more blatant.

If you read the latest Tomase article, BB was contacted by Moss during the Deion Branch fiasco. Moss told Belichick that he would love to play for the Pats. The Pats didn't trade for him at that time probably because the Raiders would've wanted a 1st round pick.

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Did you read about the tampering rumors going on? I think it was on ProFootbalTalk.com.