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What planet are these young thugs being raised, on that they think it's OK to assault a 50 year-old women? It's high time we looked far deeper into the background of such individuals and understood exactly why they are growing up so devoid of any reasonable moral boundaries. I'd also like to see their parents called to account, because there is clearly something lacking in their upbringing.

What planet are these young thugs being raised, on that they think it's OK to assault a 50 year-old women? It's high time we looked far deeper into the background of such individuals and understood exactly why they are growing up so devoid of any reasonable moral boundaries. I'd also like to see their parents called to account, because there is clearly something lacking in their upbringing.Sir Prised

Sir Prised wrote:
What planet are these young thugs being raised, on that they think it's OK to assault a 50 year-old women? It's high time we looked far deeper into the background of such individuals and understood exactly why they are growing up so devoid of any reasonable moral boundaries. I'd also like to see their parents called to account, because there is clearly something lacking in their upbringing.

Scummy people produce scummy children who produce scummy children.......the issue has to be tackled at some point.

The problem is .....how?

We have seen that 'being nice' to offenders isn't working, we have seen that prison makes most of them worse. We have seen how parents react adversely to any criticism of their children's actions.

So what do we do? Stick them away for 30 years minimum? How about castrating everyone over 16 who gets an ASBO? That would certainly remove them from the gene pool.

[quote][p][bold]Sir Prised[/bold] wrote:
What planet are these young thugs being raised, on that they think it's OK to assault a 50 year-old women? It's high time we looked far deeper into the background of such individuals and understood exactly why they are growing up so devoid of any reasonable moral boundaries. I'd also like to see their parents called to account, because there is clearly something lacking in their upbringing.[/p][/quote]Scummy people produce scummy children who produce scummy children.......the issue has to be tackled at some point.
The problem is .....how?
We have seen that 'being nice' to offenders isn't working, we have seen that prison makes most of them worse. We have seen how parents react adversely to any criticism of their children's actions.
So what do we do? Stick them away for 30 years minimum? How about castrating everyone over 16 who gets an ASBO? That would certainly remove them from the gene pool.stevo!!

Sir Prised wrote:
What planet are these young thugs being raised, on that they think it's OK to assault a 50 year-old women? It's high time we looked far deeper into the background of such individuals and understood exactly why they are growing up so devoid of any reasonable moral boundaries. I'd also like to see their parents called to account, because there is clearly something lacking in their upbringing.

Scummy people produce scummy children who produce scummy children.......the issue has to be tackled at some point.

The problem is .....how?

We have seen that 'being nice' to offenders isn't working, we have seen that prison makes most of them worse. We have seen how parents react adversely to any criticism of their children's actions.

So what do we do? Stick them away for 30 years minimum? How about castrating everyone over 16 who gets an ASBO? That would certainly remove them from the gene pool.

Well one thing which needs to be done is to talk about responsibilities instead of rights. It's that wrong emphasis which gives people a false sense of entitlement. Add to that the divorcing of the decision to have a child from the responsibility of paying for it ! It has to be re-established that having and providing, both materially and emotionally is not something to be embarked on lightly. The reality is, that like it or not, earlier morality came via religious teaching and with it's demise, nothing has been put in it's place. We are in a moral free-for-all where society matters, not one jot ! Here endeth the rant !! ;-)

[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Sir Prised[/bold] wrote:
What planet are these young thugs being raised, on that they think it's OK to assault a 50 year-old women? It's high time we looked far deeper into the background of such individuals and understood exactly why they are growing up so devoid of any reasonable moral boundaries. I'd also like to see their parents called to account, because there is clearly something lacking in their upbringing.[/p][/quote]Scummy people produce scummy children who produce scummy children.......the issue has to be tackled at some point.
The problem is .....how?
We have seen that 'being nice' to offenders isn't working, we have seen that prison makes most of them worse. We have seen how parents react adversely to any criticism of their children's actions.
So what do we do? Stick them away for 30 years minimum? How about castrating everyone over 16 who gets an ASBO? That would certainly remove them from the gene pool.[/p][/quote]Well one thing which needs to be done is to talk about responsibilities instead of rights. It's that wrong emphasis which gives people a false sense of entitlement. Add to that the divorcing of the decision to have a child from the responsibility of paying for it ! It has to be re-established that having and providing, both materially and emotionally is not something to be embarked on lightly. The reality is, that like it or not, earlier morality came via religious teaching and with it's demise, nothing has been put in it's place. We are in a moral free-for-all where society matters, not one jot ! Here endeth the rant !! ;-)Sir Prised

Sir Prised wrote:
What planet are these young thugs being raised, on that they think it's OK to assault a 50 year-old women? It's high time we looked far deeper into the background of such individuals and understood exactly why they are growing up so devoid of any reasonable moral boundaries. I'd also like to see their parents called to account, because there is clearly something lacking in their upbringing.

Scummy people produce scummy children who produce scummy children.......the issue has to be tackled at some point.

The problem is .....how?

We have seen that 'being nice' to offenders isn't working, we have seen that prison makes most of them worse. We have seen how parents react adversely to any criticism of their children's actions.

So what do we do? Stick them away for 30 years minimum? How about castrating everyone over 16 who gets an ASBO? That would certainly remove them from the gene pool.

Well one thing which needs to be done is to talk about responsibilities instead of rights. It's that wrong emphasis which gives people a false sense of entitlement. Add to that the divorcing of the decision to have a child from the responsibility of paying for it ! It has to be re-established that having and providing, both materially and emotionally is not something to be embarked on lightly. The reality is, that like it or not, earlier morality came via religious teaching and with it's demise, nothing has been put in it's place. We are in a moral free-for-all where society matters, not one jot ! Here endeth the rant !! ;-)

You made three brilliant points:

1) Responsibilities and rights/entitlements are linked - so lose one, you lose the other.

2) Those who feel that others should be responsible for their children are leaving those kids with no moral guidance.

3) An absence of spiritual guidance has led to a moral-free society. I'm not claiming that atheists don't have morals - I'm talking about those who don't even know what atheism is.

[quote][p][bold]Sir Prised[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Sir Prised[/bold] wrote:
What planet are these young thugs being raised, on that they think it's OK to assault a 50 year-old women? It's high time we looked far deeper into the background of such individuals and understood exactly why they are growing up so devoid of any reasonable moral boundaries. I'd also like to see their parents called to account, because there is clearly something lacking in their upbringing.[/p][/quote]Scummy people produce scummy children who produce scummy children.......the issue has to be tackled at some point.
The problem is .....how?
We have seen that 'being nice' to offenders isn't working, we have seen that prison makes most of them worse. We have seen how parents react adversely to any criticism of their children's actions.
So what do we do? Stick them away for 30 years minimum? How about castrating everyone over 16 who gets an ASBO? That would certainly remove them from the gene pool.[/p][/quote]Well one thing which needs to be done is to talk about responsibilities instead of rights. It's that wrong emphasis which gives people a false sense of entitlement. Add to that the divorcing of the decision to have a child from the responsibility of paying for it ! It has to be re-established that having and providing, both materially and emotionally is not something to be embarked on lightly. The reality is, that like it or not, earlier morality came via religious teaching and with it's demise, nothing has been put in it's place. We are in a moral free-for-all where society matters, not one jot ! Here endeth the rant !! ;-)[/p][/quote]You made three brilliant points:
1) Responsibilities and rights/entitlements are linked - so lose one, you lose the other.
2) Those who feel that others should be responsible for their children are leaving those kids with no moral guidance.
3) An absence of spiritual guidance has led to a moral-free society. I'm not claiming that atheists don't have morals - I'm talking about those who don't even know what atheism is.stevo!!

Sir Prised wrote:
What planet are these young thugs being raised, on that they think it's OK to assault a 50 year-old women? It's high time we looked far deeper into the background of such individuals and understood exactly why they are growing up so devoid of any reasonable moral boundaries. I'd also like to see their parents called to account, because there is clearly something lacking in their upbringing.

Scummy people produce scummy children who produce scummy children.......the issue has to be tackled at some point.

The problem is .....how?

We have seen that 'being nice' to offenders isn't working, we have seen that prison makes most of them worse. We have seen how parents react adversely to any criticism of their children's actions.

So what do we do? Stick them away for 30 years minimum? How about castrating everyone over 16 who gets an ASBO? That would certainly remove them from the gene pool.

what we do is catch the children first,then look at the parents and if they are struggling to bring up their off spring in a suitable way then bring the whole family together for weekly educational and parenting groups.on a family by family basis for a 6 month coure.putting to many familes together makes them compete to see whos the worst.only my opinion but it would be a start.

[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Sir Prised[/bold] wrote:
What planet are these young thugs being raised, on that they think it's OK to assault a 50 year-old women? It's high time we looked far deeper into the background of such individuals and understood exactly why they are growing up so devoid of any reasonable moral boundaries. I'd also like to see their parents called to account, because there is clearly something lacking in their upbringing.[/p][/quote]Scummy people produce scummy children who produce scummy children.......the issue has to be tackled at some point.
The problem is .....how?
We have seen that 'being nice' to offenders isn't working, we have seen that prison makes most of them worse. We have seen how parents react adversely to any criticism of their children's actions.
So what do we do? Stick them away for 30 years minimum? How about castrating everyone over 16 who gets an ASBO? That would certainly remove them from the gene pool.[/p][/quote]what we do is catch the children first,then look at the parents and if they are struggling to bring up their off spring in a suitable way then bring the whole family together for weekly educational and parenting groups.on a family by family basis for a 6 month coure.putting to many familes together makes them compete to see whos the worst.only my opinion but it would be a start.nissancars

Sir Prised wrote:
What planet are these young thugs being raised, on that they think it's OK to assault a 50 year-old women? It's high time we looked far deeper into the background of such individuals and understood exactly why they are growing up so devoid of any reasonable moral boundaries. I'd also like to see their parents called to account, because there is clearly something lacking in their upbringing.

Scummy people produce scummy children who produce scummy children.......the issue has to be tackled at some point.

The problem is .....how?

We have seen that 'being nice' to offenders isn't working, we have seen that prison makes most of them worse. We have seen how parents react adversely to any criticism of their children's actions.

So what do we do? Stick them away for 30 years minimum? How about castrating everyone over 16 who gets an ASBO? That would certainly remove them from the gene pool.

And talking of helmets stevo......

[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Sir Prised[/bold] wrote:
What planet are these young thugs being raised, on that they think it's OK to assault a 50 year-old women? It's high time we looked far deeper into the background of such individuals and understood exactly why they are growing up so devoid of any reasonable moral boundaries. I'd also like to see their parents called to account, because there is clearly something lacking in their upbringing.[/p][/quote]Scummy people produce scummy children who produce scummy children.......the issue has to be tackled at some point.
The problem is .....how?
We have seen that 'being nice' to offenders isn't working, we have seen that prison makes most of them worse. We have seen how parents react adversely to any criticism of their children's actions.
So what do we do? Stick them away for 30 years minimum? How about castrating everyone over 16 who gets an ASBO? That would certainly remove them from the gene pool.[/p][/quote]And talking of helmets stevo......Nikski

Sir Prised wrote:
What planet are these young thugs being raised, on that they think it's OK to assault a 50 year-old women? It's high time we looked far deeper into the background of such individuals and understood exactly why they are growing up so devoid of any reasonable moral boundaries. I'd also like to see their parents called to account, because there is clearly something lacking in their upbringing.

Scummy people produce scummy children who produce scummy children.......the issue has to be tackled at some point.

The problem is .....how?

We have seen that 'being nice' to offenders isn't working, we have seen that prison makes most of them worse. We have seen how parents react adversely to any criticism of their children's actions.

So what do we do? Stick them away for 30 years minimum? How about castrating everyone over 16 who gets an ASBO? That would certainly remove them from the gene pool.

Well one thing which needs to be done is to talk about responsibilities instead of rights. It's that wrong emphasis which gives people a false sense of entitlement. Add to that the divorcing of the decision to have a child from the responsibility of paying for it ! It has to be re-established that having and providing, both materially and emotionally is not something to be embarked on lightly. The reality is, that like it or not, earlier morality came via religious teaching and with it's demise, nothing has been put in it's place. We are in a moral free-for-all where society matters, not one jot ! Here endeth the rant !! ;-)

You made three brilliant points:

1) Responsibilities and rights/entitlements are linked - so lose one, you lose the other.

2) Those who feel that others should be responsible for their children are leaving those kids with no moral guidance.

3) An absence of spiritual guidance has led to a moral-free society. I'm not claiming that atheists don't have morals - I'm talking about those who don't even know what atheism is.

Hey stevo what's atheism?

[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Sir Prised[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Sir Prised[/bold] wrote:
What planet are these young thugs being raised, on that they think it's OK to assault a 50 year-old women? It's high time we looked far deeper into the background of such individuals and understood exactly why they are growing up so devoid of any reasonable moral boundaries. I'd also like to see their parents called to account, because there is clearly something lacking in their upbringing.[/p][/quote]Scummy people produce scummy children who produce scummy children.......the issue has to be tackled at some point.
The problem is .....how?
We have seen that 'being nice' to offenders isn't working, we have seen that prison makes most of them worse. We have seen how parents react adversely to any criticism of their children's actions.
So what do we do? Stick them away for 30 years minimum? How about castrating everyone over 16 who gets an ASBO? That would certainly remove them from the gene pool.[/p][/quote]Well one thing which needs to be done is to talk about responsibilities instead of rights. It's that wrong emphasis which gives people a false sense of entitlement. Add to that the divorcing of the decision to have a child from the responsibility of paying for it ! It has to be re-established that having and providing, both materially and emotionally is not something to be embarked on lightly. The reality is, that like it or not, earlier morality came via religious teaching and with it's demise, nothing has been put in it's place. We are in a moral free-for-all where society matters, not one jot ! Here endeth the rant !! ;-)[/p][/quote]You made three brilliant points:
1) Responsibilities and rights/entitlements are linked - so lose one, you lose the other.
2) Those who feel that others should be responsible for their children are leaving those kids with no moral guidance.
3) An absence of spiritual guidance has led to a moral-free society. I'm not claiming that atheists don't have morals - I'm talking about those who don't even know what atheism is.[/p][/quote]Hey stevo what's atheism?Nikski