The best player to never win the FO twice? Federer
The best player to never win 18 majors or more? Federer
The best player to never win Monte Carlo/Rome/Acapulco/Barcelona/the challenger in Sopot? Federer
The best player to never like Djokovic's camp? Federer
The best player to never shave his chest? A toss-up between Sampras and Federer.

Dumb selections in OP. How can Sampras be the best player not to win FO, if he didnt make a finals in countless attempts ? Same with Murray. someone who until last month who loses to Chardy, Young, Bogomolov , Janowicz does not yet to deserve to be No 1.

Dumb selections in OP. How can Sampras be the best player not to win FO, if he didnt make a finals in countless attempts ? Same with Murray. someone who until last month who loses to Chardy, Young, Bogomolov , Janowicz does not yet to deserve to be No 1.

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I think his criteria for this would be players with excellent records in events other than the one being referred to. In this case, player with the most number of slams outside of RG (Sampras) takes it.

Dumb selections in OP. How can Sampras be the best player not to win FO, if he didnt make a finals in countless attempts ? Same with Murray. someone who until last month who loses to Chardy, Young, Bogomolov , Janowicz does not yet to deserve to be No 1.

AO-Murray as of now. Still can't believe he hasn't won there yet. The surface you would figure would suit his game style PERFECTLY

French-Sampras

Wimbledon- Rafter (the old grass suited his game very well)

USO- Borg

Davis Cup-Federer

YEC- Tough one.

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You are doing something different here. Rafter is not a better player than Lendl. His game was more suited for the surface so he 'should have won it' maybe just as much, but that Lendl is a more accomplished player than Rafter is a given.

But that was poorly done. I would expect someone like a brat(Bernard Tomic) but not a grown man like Toni. And it wasn't funny at all. Had Federer or Murray made the same terrible joke, they get crushed by the media and the fans.

But that was poorly done. I would expect someone like a brat(Bernard Tomic) but not a grown man like Toni. And it wasn't funny at all. Had Federer or Murray made the same terrible joke, they get crushed by the media and the fans.

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I didn't say it was a good joke mate, I just said it was a joke. I personally think it's mildly amusing but you are of course at liberty to say you didn't find it funny. Not everyone finds the same things to be funny - it would be a pretty dull world if we did.

The point is though, it was said as a joke - not as a serious point. Whether or not it is a good or funny joke isn't hugely relevant; what's relevant is the intent - and I think Toni intended to make people smile. The fact that you didn't find it funny doesn't alter this intent.

About Vilas, it depends the way of thinking.
If we are just looking ATP ranking, Vilas was never n°1, so, of course, he's the best player who's never been n°1 (better than Murray of course).
If we say : "ok, he was never n°1 at the ATP ranking, but he was of course the world champion in 1977 and everybody knows that", we can say that Murray is the best player who's never been n°1.

I think his criteria for this would be players with excellent records in events other than the one being referred to. In this case, player with the most number of slams outside of RG (Sampras) takes it.

You can't win it if you don't take part in it, As far as I can recall, Borg hardly entered the Australian Open. During those days, it was held in December rather than January, and quite a number of top players stayed away.

While it is true Connors never won on red clay, he still has titles on clay, the US Open being one of them. And if they were to break it into red/green clay categories, then they'd have to start breaking it into different speed hard courts as well.

I know this has been discussed ad nauseum, but are you saying Coria was better than Sampras? Because Sampras never won the French, and I may be going out on a limb here, but I'm fairly certain he was better than Coria...

You can't win it if you don't take part in it, As far as I can recall, Borg hardly entered the Australian Open. During those days, it was held in December rather than January, and quite a number of top players stayed away.