Greybeards or Blades?

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.. ya but here comes the, "What if that co-worker murdered thousands and thousands of humans thousands of thousands of years ago (and they will completely ignore the fact that said co-worker taught the other co-workers how to overthrow the boss that does not pay overtime(Alduin) and then proceed to train the Assistant Managers(Dragonborns).

Analogies don't work with these guys... but this should distract them.... *throws ball into busy street*

I'm a little unclear why you guys are claiming that the Blades didn't help you at all.

They led you to Alduin's Wall, for crying out loud. I'm not saying the Greybeards didn't also help, of course, but you're trying to make it sound like the Blades did nothing when in fact they were just as instrumental as the Greybeards.

If you're complaining that the Blades didn't "help" you enough when you went into the Thalmor Embassy and stuff.... well... welcome to video games. And even then, it's not like the Greybeards helped you when you had to go get the Horn of Jurgen Windcaller.

If you're complaining that the Blades didn't "help" you enough when you went into the Thalmor Embassy and stuff.... well... welcome to video games. And even then, it's not like the Greybeards helped you when you had to go get the Horn of Jurgen Windcaller.

The Greybeards didn't help you get the horn because it was YOUR test. But I bet that flew over your head too eh?

I'm a little unclear why you guys are claiming that the Blades didn't help you at all.

They led you to Alduin's Wall, for crying out loud. I'm not saying the Greybeards didn't also help, of course, but you're trying to make it sound like the Blades did nothing when in fact they were just as instrumental as the Greybeards.

If you're complaining that the Blades didn't "help" you enough when you went into the Thalmor Embassy and stuff.... well... welcome to video games. And even then, it's not like the Greybeards helped you when you had to go get the Horn of Jurgen Windcaller.

Delphine had ME go to the embassy and find out what they knew, then she had ME go to Riften and get Esbern. Oh, and she has YOU go out and recruit for her hypocritical cult, and god forbid you don't go out and kill Paarthy who helped you tons and asked for practically nothing in return, she basically kicks you out of the temple that they were only able to enter thanks to YOUR blood. Far as I'm concerned, she can go **** herself.

Esbern on the other hand was pretty helpful, he was the one who found Sky Haven Temple, HE was the one who read about the shout to call Odahviin. Granted, he seems like he's just following Delphine's lead on the whole Paarthy thing, but I am a bit more sympathetic to him, Delphine is definitely the one wearing the pants in that relationship after all.

As for Paarthy and the Greybeards, well they taught you several shouts, helped you find a way to learn dragonrend, helped put a temporary stop to the civil war.

Again, putting history aside, the dragonborn has no reason to go after Paarthy, except to satisfy Delphine's bloodlust.

I'm a little unclear why you guys are claiming that the Blades didn't help you at all.

They led you to Alduin's Wall, for crying out loud. I'm not saying the Greybeards didn't also help, of course, but you're trying to make it sound like the Blades did nothing when in fact they were just as instrumental as the Greybeards.

If you're complaining that the Blades didn't "help" you enough when you went into the Thalmor Embassy and stuff.... well... welcome to video games. And even then, it's not like the Greybeards helped you when you had to go get the Horn of Jurgen Windcaller.

I'm starting get the feeling Kixx just likes killing dragons and devouring their souls or he would have at least agreed to disagree by now. Instead he ignores any of the logic we point out and states the only good dragon (or closest you can find to a good one, since even Paarthurnax says he is still mastering his control over his darker nature) must die because of what he did thousands of years ago.