Re: Opportunities for female MCSE's?

Sadly, you may find that women make less than men in the IT industry. I hope
I am wrong; I am a male. What the hell do I know? Ask other women in the IT
industry.

For women in computers, I think it's an even split between network
administration (MCSE) and software development (MCSD). I think women in
computers is cool. The MCSE certification title is something that can
enhance one's career by (slightly) helping you land in a new job or get you
a better pay raise at review time. The MCSD title carries a little more
weight because less people have it; many developers simply don't care about
getting certified.

MCSEs get more exercise. They are the people that are wiring computers,
running all over the company campus, installing hardware/software here and
there, calling people and pulling their hair out. MCSDs earn more money but
get fat because they sit at a desk, cut code and follow tight deadlines with
ample debugging. Neither group is less stressed.

Both groups must keep up with the latest technology. This means continuous
reading, experimentation, and computer certification.

This is really a tough time to break into the IT industry. It can be done
though, if you're willing to swallow your pride (low pay, crappy job) to get
your foot in the door somewhere.

Good luck to you. I love this stuff.

(I welcome other comments from anyone else.)

Sincerely,
Davin Mickelson, MCSD.NET, MCSA

"Missy" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> I've decided to change careers from publishing to computers. In general,
do
> more females work in networking or on the development end of IT? In
> addition, what advice would you give to a person switching careers into
the
> MCSE profession?
>
>
>

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you are not wrong, they are paid far less then the males. unless you are as
good as say, laura robinson.

"Davin Mickelson" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Warning: this is all my opinion, which is often wrong.
>
> Sadly, you may find that women make less than men in the IT industry. I
hope
> I am wrong; I am a male. What the hell do I know? Ask other women in the
IT
> industry.
>
> For women in computers, I think it's an even split between network
> administration (MCSE) and software development (MCSD). I think women in
> computers is cool. The MCSE certification title is something that can
> enhance one's career by (slightly) helping you land in a new job or get
you
> a better pay raise at review time. The MCSD title carries a little more
> weight because less people have it; many developers simply don't care
about
> getting certified.
>
> MCSEs get more exercise. They are the people that are wiring computers,
> running all over the company campus, installing hardware/software here and
> there, calling people and pulling their hair out. MCSDs earn more money
but
> get fat because they sit at a desk, cut code and follow tight deadlines
with
> ample debugging. Neither group is less stressed.
>
> Both groups must keep up with the latest technology. This means continuous
> reading, experimentation, and computer certification.
>
> This is really a tough time to break into the IT industry. It can be done
> though, if you're willing to swallow your pride (low pay, crappy job) to
get
> your foot in the door somewhere.
>
> Good luck to you. I love this stuff.
>
> (I welcome other comments from anyone else.)
>
> Sincerely,
> Davin Mickelson, MCSD.NET, MCSA
>
>
> "Missy" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
> > I've decided to change careers from publishing to computers. In
general,
> do
> > more females work in networking or on the development end of IT? In
> > addition, what advice would you give to a person switching careers into
> the
> > MCSE profession?
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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circa Thu, 4 Sep 2003 00:51:54 -0500, in
microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Davin Mickelson
() said,
> Warning: this is all my opinion, which is often wrong.
>
> Sadly, you may find that women make less than men in the IT industry. I hope
> I am wrong; I am a male. What the hell do I know? Ask other women in the IT
> industry.

I suspect that I make more than a lot of men in the IT industry.
>
> For women in computers, I think it's an even split between network
> administration (MCSE) and software development (MCSD). I think women in
> computers is cool. The MCSE certification title is something that can
> enhance one's career by (slightly) helping you land in a new job or get you
> a better pay raise at review time. The MCSD title carries a little more
> weight because less people have it; many developers simply don't care about
> getting certified.

Don't bet on that one. MCSDs have as much to fight in terms of the
"paper certification" tag as MCSA/Es do. Sometimes more. "Real"
coders often view MCSDs as dilletantes or worse.
>
> MCSEs get more exercise. They are the people that are wiring computers,
> running all over the company campus, installing hardware/software here and
> there, calling people and pulling their hair out. MCSDs earn more money but
> get fat because they sit at a desk, cut code and follow tight deadlines with
> ample debugging. Neither group is less stressed.

Definitely a bit of overgeneralization here, IMO.
>
> Both groups must keep up with the latest technology. This means continuous
> reading, experimentation, and computer certification.

Yup.
>
> This is really a tough time to break into the IT industry.

That's an understatement.
> It can be done
> though, if you're willing to swallow your pride (low pay, crappy job) to get
> your foot in the door somewhere.

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Systems Administrator
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"Consultant" <> wrote in message
news:...
> you are not wrong, they are paid far less then the males. unless you are
as
> good as say, laura robinson.
>
>
> "Davin Mickelson" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > Warning: this is all my opinion, which is often wrong.
> >
> > Sadly, you may find that women make less than men in the IT industry. I
> hope
> > I am wrong; I am a male. What the hell do I know? Ask other women in the
> IT
> > industry.
> >
> > For women in computers, I think it's an even split between network
> > administration (MCSE) and software development (MCSD). I think women in
> > computers is cool. The MCSE certification title is something that can
> > enhance one's career by (slightly) helping you land in a new job or get
> you
> > a better pay raise at review time. The MCSD title carries a little more
> > weight because less people have it; many developers simply don't care
> about
> > getting certified.
> >
> > MCSEs get more exercise. They are the people that are wiring computers,
> > running all over the company campus, installing hardware/software here
and
> > there, calling people and pulling their hair out. MCSDs earn more money
> but
> > get fat because they sit at a desk, cut code and follow tight deadlines
> with
> > ample debugging. Neither group is less stressed.
> >
> > Both groups must keep up with the latest technology. This means
continuous
> > reading, experimentation, and computer certification.
> >
> > This is really a tough time to break into the IT industry. It can be
done
> > though, if you're willing to swallow your pride (low pay, crappy job) to
> get
> > your foot in the door somewhere.
> >
> > Good luck to you. I love this stuff.
> >
> > (I welcome other comments from anyone else.)
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Davin Mickelson, MCSD.NET, MCSA
> >
> >
> > "Missy" <> wrote in message
> > news:%...
> > > I've decided to change careers from publishing to computers. In
> general,
> > do
> > > more females work in networking or on the development end of IT? In
> > > addition, what advice would you give to a person switching careers
into
> > the
> > > MCSE profession?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

circa Thu, 4 Sep 2003 07:05:01 -0700, in
microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Consultant
() said,
> you are not wrong, they are paid far less then the males. unless you are as
> good as say, laura robinson.
>
While I'm flattered, if it really is true that women are paid less on
the whole, then women need to start kicking some butts. ;-)

i would actually like to hire a couple women. any interested ladies, feel
free to send me your pics and a short bio

"Laura A. Robinson" <> wrote in message
news:...
> circa Thu, 4 Sep 2003 07:05:01 -0700, in
> microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Consultant
> () said,
> > you are not wrong, they are paid far less then the males. unless you are
as
> > good as say, laura robinson.
> >
> While I'm flattered, if it really is true that women are paid less on
> the whole, then women need to start kicking some butts. ;-)
>
> Laura

circa Thu, 4 Sep 2003 07:45:01 -0700, in
microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Consultant
() said,
> i would actually like to hire a couple women. any interested ladies, feel
> free to send me your pics and a short bio
>
>
Yes, but you're not looking to hire them for IT.

"Jtyc" <> wrote in message
news:...
> > i would actually like to hire a couple women. any interested ladies,
feel
> > free to send me your pics and a short bio
>
> What if I know someone who isn't a woman but does have a ponytail and
likes
> to wear leather chaps? Does that qualify?
>
>
>

"Jtyc" <> wrote in message
news:...
> > i would actually like to hire a couple women. any interested ladies,
feel
> > free to send me your pics and a short bio
>
> What if I know someone who isn't a woman but does have a ponytail and
likes
> to wear leather chaps? Does that qualify?
>
>
>

circa Thu, 4 Sep 2003 07:51:00 -0700, in
microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Jtyc ()
said,
>
> > I suspect that I make more than a lot of men in the IT industry.
>
> I'm still looking for someone to adopt me... ;-)
>
I still don't want kids.

"Jtyc" <> wrote in message
news:ub%...
> > properly chastized and obeys too! lol do I have to start calling you
> puppy
> > like billy too?
>
> As long as you give me the details you can call me what you like.
>
>
>
haha nice try though... cant blame the boy for tryin though

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