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Peer pressure has LITTLE to do with it. WILL has everything to do with it.First, rehab is for those who have the will to quit,want to quit, will work to quit.Being sent to rehab by the court or family only results in a "go along, get along" approach to rehab.These are the people who run out and get a fix upon release from the facility. They don't really want to quit. They enjoy their lifestyle, they are predisposed to the pleasure the drug brings and that is the way they want to live their life. The doctors

researchers at the University of Houston's Graduate School of Social Work are building hyper-realistic virtual worlds

I'm not sure about "hyper-realistic".:) Sprite characters which say a pre-recorded line when you trigger them? Whoopy. Actually, looking at the video [youtube.com], it resembles a lot the game Under a Killing Moon [youtube.com] from 1994.

Despite the slightly crusty appearance, I do not want to completely stomp the idea though.

that this is really stupid. Maybe it will help the non real addicts that people think need help, but those of us who are true addicts it's about our will power, nothing less. Back when I was strung out on heroin, it didn't matter if I went to rehab, got clean, i would be strung out again within 1 week once I got left to my own ends.

What got me to quit was getting help for some of my mental issues, and me getting completely sick of the junky scene. I hated being dope sick. I hated the crap I did to stay well. I learned to remember all the bad shit associated with being a heroin addict, and I left that as a reminder in my mind on what the path leads to.

On top of that, I got as far away from other users as possible. I don't want to associate with them, hang with them, even talk to them. Fuck that. If you think you can still be friends with addicts/users, you are mistaken. If they can't get clean, screw them, they will only pull you down.

There is plenty to do without hanging around people who use/abuse drugs. If you really want to stay clean, you accept that as reality and change your life, otherwise you are just setting yourself up to fail on purpose.

Well said! I know it's not the same, but I had serious problems with alcoholism years ago and got the same impression that you did from reading this article. After-school special peer pressure users or drinkers are not suffering from a real addiction. My addiction was a very personal thing for me that no one else who knew me would understand or approve of which is why I had to keep it secret.
I felt OK and was able to cope only when I was under the influence, or knew that I was not far removed from being able to achieve that state. I lacked the mental toughness and tools to fix the problems that the sober me could not reconcile and turned to liquor to define me because I just could not be bothered with it. After coming face to face with the fact that I had irrevocably altered my life in a profoundly negative way, I made the choice to live life sober and take control.

On top of that, I got as far away from other users as possible. I don't want to associate with them, hang with them, even talk to them.

Isn't that kind of the point of this, though, to simulate a party with those people, and immerse you in it while you're sober, and reinforce that preference to stay away from users of your drug? I mean, I don't think it's a cure-all, and it sounds like the project is too young for clinical trials or to produce statistics about relapse rates or anything, but isn't it worth

I think that what Nyder means is pretty much that once you fix the underlying problems in your head and with your life, there is no longer a need to hang out with people that have yet to even acknowledge that there is a problem in the first place. What could you possibly gain by that other than depressing the heck out of yourself? And what he was talking about is not what they are reproducing with the treatment because the focus of the treatment is the substance and some common situations where the substanc

In the case of most drugs, not only is it a chemical effect, but it's possible to point to the exact chemical receptors. Morphine, for example, binds to -opioid receptors - causing analgesic and euphoric effects. This causes the receptors to desensitise - which both means the morphine doesn't work so well and the dosage must be increased, and that the subject feels like crap any time they don't have enough morphine in them to counter the desensitisation to the point of physical symptoms. That's why opioids

If you think you can still be friends with addicts/users, you are mistaken. If they can't get clean, screw them, they will only pull you down.

I suppose it can work with hard drugs or alcohol - I am not, and never was, a user or either, so I'm no specialist though.

However, I AM a nicotine addict. I say nicotine and not tobacco, because I have switched to vaping as a risk mitigation strategy (and quit smoking for good as a result).

One thing I can tell you as a former smoker is, when you're hooked on tobacco, there's no escaping it. You can't avoid being with other smokers, because the smell of cigarette is everywhere. When I quit smoking, it'd only take some random guy who had just smoked outside, walking past me, reeking of cold cigarette smoke, to send me craving like there was no tomorrow.

Random guys who smell of tobacco are everywhere. You just can't escape the smell. You're constantly bombarded with reminders that, yes, you'd really REALLY want to smoke one just right now.

I quit smoking cold turkey a few years ago before vaping really took off. There are a lot of factors that go into whether someone can finally quit or not, but I will say that the pleasant, tempting odor of cigarettes went away eventually. Sometimes a light tobacco scent on the air will smell good in an abstract sense but when I am around other smokers it's a pretty disgusting odor.
The hardest part for me about quitting was being left out socially every time there was a smoke break. It was actually when I

One thing I can tell you as a former smoker is, when you're hooked on cigarettes, there's no escaping it. You can't avoid being with other smokers, because the smell of cigarette is everywhere. When I quit smoking, it'd only take some random guy who had just smoked outside, walking past me, reeking of cold cigarette smoke, to send me craving like there was no tomorrow.

Random guys who smell of tobacco are everywhere. You just can't escape the smell. You're constantly bombarded with reminders that, yes, you'd really REALLY want to smoke one just right now.

FTFY.

I switched from cigarettes to a pipe about 2.5 years ago, and now I can't stand the chemical reek of coffin nails. "random guy who smells like cigarettes" grosses me out just as much as he does a non-smoker, maybe even more so. Conversely, I get complements about the smell of pipe smoke all the time, and people actually tell me, "it's cool, you can smoke in here, I like the way that smells." I still won't smoke indoors out of principle, though.

I quit smoking lots of times... I only quit smoking for good, once... As such, I only have one data point. I've been clean for 9 years.

My overriding reason to quit was that I didn't want my son to know me as a smoker.

What helped me along the way, encountering the situations you describe, were the negative aspects of what it was like as a smoker. The disgusting cough in the morning, the stench on my clothes, the blandness of my food... If I walked past a smoker, I just brought forth the memory of those neg

Yeah, a real addict will just fake his/her way through the VR to get back outside the program and to the drugs again. Addicted people tend to spend all their energy manipulating their environment to be able to do drugs freely anyway. Someone has to find their own motivation and reasons for quitting.

I wouldn't be so fast to marginalize one habit over another. Marijuana might not be physically harmful, but I do think its a fair assessment to say that some people use it to excess and struggle controlling their use. This also can be applied to video games, internet browsing, food, and so on, but it doesn't make the issue any less severe for those who seek help.

Marijuana, for me at least, is harder to quit than meth, herioin, or cigarettes. All of those things have very noticeable downsides that you can't really avoid. They give you a lot of incentive to quit. Marijuana just makes you look a little tired and therefore unprofessional, or maybe not too serious about life. I get a nervous, sick feeling in my stomach even thinking about hard drug or alcohol use, but marijuana will probably always have a draw and many good associations. I think of it like coffee. It ma

I think the entire approach is wrong-headed. Why would it be acceptable for someone who's attempting to recover from addiction hang out with people who are still using - people who would encourage them to use again, in spite of the typically massive damage to their so-called "friend's" life that landed them in rehab in the first place?