I'm your host, Jester. I've been an EVE Online player for about six years. One of my four mains is Ripard Teg, pictured at left. Sadly, I've succumbed to "bittervet" disease, but I'm wandering the New Eden landscape (and from time to time, the MMO landscape) in search of a cure.You can follow along, if you want...

Saturday, May 3, 2014

That didn't take long...

Party at the Top of the World was excellent! And it included the live version of HTFU! I got to mingle with a lot of EVE players and devs and had a great time.

Needless to say, the Rouge Wedding came up several times in talking to both. And yeah, I know I need to get off the DUST 514 Project Legion announcement. And tomorrow, I will -- promise. But it's the one huge blemish on what has otherwise been an absolutely flawless Fanfest from start to finish.

And besides, what follows makes it worth it. The "Hitler finds out about X" meme is very over-used, but when it's done right the results can be vicious, biting, and absolutely hysterical:

Yes, I know DUST is developed in Shanghai, not in Reykjavik but still, it's funny as hell. Go give it a watch:

I promise to spend tomorrow 100% on EVE Online and Valkyrie and to cover all of the positives I experienced at Fanfest 2014, and they were many! But first, I need a few hours of sleep.

Even funnier will be the video that comes out when the EVE players finally realize that they have been beta testers for 10+ years of the prototype of Star Citizen.... the *real* sandbox of sci-fi space opera MMOs, which we've all been waiting for.

You are not far wrong. Chris (Roberts) has said that he has had people looking at EVE, incl. following the forums and reading the blogs, in order to avoid CCP's mistakes. They also get a lot of supportive email from disgruntled EVE players (so much for brand loyalty), with plenty of detail of what does and does not work in EVE.

If Jester looks around closely, he might even see some of the SC folks at Fanfest....

The last time Roberts produced a game worth a shit was WC Privateer. That was a looooooong time ago. Star Citizen has not shown me much to make it feel like it even competes with EvE thus far. Maybe ultimately it will, but honestly he should probably get right back up in the Wing Commander wheelhouse where he belongs, find his groove again, then come back to going after EvE. We'll see though.

Every time someone says SC is the sandbox game we all want I have to go check to see if the laws of physics have changed. Unfortunately light is still the speed limit, relativity is still in effect, and thermodynamics still says we'll never get anywhere close to perfect efficiency.

So we're not going to get 1000+ player battles with real time control in my lifetime.

FWIW you can talk about the DUST-up every day for a week as far as I'm concerned. At the end of the day the DUST news and how it was delivered are more momentous than anything strictly EVE-related that came out of fanfest. The meta is fast catching up with CCP. As the game gets more stagnant the conversation turns away from EVE the game and more towards CCP as a company and how they treat their loyal paying customers. So have at it by all means!

From what I understand, with Eve Online a credit card chargeback (for any reason whatsoever) gets you on CCP's shitlist big time. You get banned for life and there is no appeal. The fact that DUST players are going down this road en masse says a lot. First and foremost it says they don't give a shit that CCP will ban them for life and refuse to accept them as customers in the future. Chargebacks are a big deal. I hope CCP enjoys the taste of the chargeback shit sandwiches coming their way. They deserve to eat them and savor every pungent bite. Will CCP learn from this fiasco? Hell no!

CCP is losing money on DUST anyways. They would have closed it down last year, if they were not liable to Sony to keep it up and running. DUST on PS3 was the dumbest deal they ever made (well, maybe not - the White Wolf deal was not too smart).

I comfirm, a chargeback even if accidental puts you in a banlist that makes all other banlists look like Disneyland. A friend lost his main that way after he forgot both that his main's sub was re-directed to Paypal and it had become recurrent. He saw a strange movement and cancelled it before checking further, and had to kiss g-bye 6 years worth of account.

BTW, chargebacks are quite costly to companies. If you're an angry DUST player and don't mind being denied to be a customer of CCP ever again, just chargeback them... that's the closest you'll get to kicking their nuts.

CCP Shanghai put all their cards on an pre-alpha.The VP even dared to compare (in the Polygon interview) the Legion reveal with how EVEVR was revealed (which he cannot be more wrong about) and told us he didn't know how many players Dust has currently.Seems like all the managers coming from EA are still living on a different planet than Earth or maybe just in a different dimension...

CCP dicks over the casual players who do industry and they are unsubbing accounts. CCP caters to the null sec players to buff null self-sufficiency, and they are unsubbing high sec alt accounts. CCP dicks over the Dust players and they are calling their credit card companies to demand chargebacks.

And, yet CCP is talking about spending more money - which they don't have - on Unreal Engine 4 for Valkyrie and EVE Legion for the PC. lololololo!

Who the hell is running the sinking business ship at CCP anyways? How many more financial icebergs can they afford to hit before they go down for good?

$20 per month *per user*, where "user" is defined as an individual person, not a company or other legal entity. So, if you have 10 developers using it, you pay $200 per month. You cannot share accounts, even with employees in same company.

aaaaaaaahahahaha! Beta! Every new group needs their Incarna debacle. New...oh wait. It is coming full circle. CCP stop it now! Just stop it! Star Wars Galaxies we don't need. Wonder where Eve would be by now with 18 months + almost 3 years of concentrated development? Blood, sweat, tears, agony, elation, not to mention tremendous amounts of time, money, and sleepless nights have gone into your game. That is just from fellow subscribers. We don't want that same feeling those SWG players got when the servers shut down on 15 December 2011. Please wake up! -Andy

yeah cuz pissing off f2p dust bunnies is going to cause a loss of subs on eve. you know that massive spike of subs we got when dust started.......oh wait.....yeah its totally not gonna be far more profitable to have the game on a platform that ppl that play eve actually wanted on. No No you are right throwing money and dev cycles at a game no one wants is far better for CCP. Console players emotions should be CCPs top priority. /sarcasm

Been saying it would be a PC port since b4 it launched. Not at all shocked waiting for my aur dropsuit skill book. Why would anyone buy a console ne way? And who the hell considers money they send to a f2p game an investment? Id consider it a donation......ne way thanks for the alpha testing dust bunnies.

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