‘Israel Gets a Pass’

Posted on Jun 22, 2008

Mosaic’s Jamal Dajani points out that while President Bush recently likened diplomacy to “appeasement,” the government of Israel has been cutting deals with two of its sworn enemies: Hezbollah and Hamas.

People like Howard doesn’t want to know that things have changed dramatically both regionally and internationally, since the coercive imposition of Israel in Palestine. The time when Israel used to provide her own sequence of events while blocking any other version that may dispute her accounts,has gone, and people can reach truth beyond Israel and its surrogates.This is what Howard should understand, that one faced coin doesn’t make a coin.

I love how Howard is still in denial about the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. I also love that he gives us a link for an opinion published in the Jerusalem Post by no less than someone who had worked for the Israeli Prime Minister…right!

Yeah, and what’s also really funny is that, although when Howard writes to us in his real voice he shows himself  as you say  to be a simpleton, he’s very fond of lecturing us about the superior wit of the Master Race.

By Arabian Thoroughbred
This was great about the 2-versions of Howard. You guys are making me laugh a lot this evening. I mean, I cant help it, because its just so apropos. The spontaneous simpleton who keeps repeating himself like a broken record, and the other well edited version that also keeps repeating, but more articulately.

The first is the real Howard, and the other is the plagiarizing cut n paste Howard. The plagiarizing version has a tendency to REALLY annoy some posters here, who take that sort of disingenuously corrupt behavior as the epitome of scumbagness.

I pretty much agree. After so long, its really difficult to tell if Howard actually believes this shit himself or not.

Yeah, Cyrena, the fact that Israel’s past peace overtures were phony is a clue.

Another clue is Israel’s intensified belligerence toward Iran that accompanies these olive branches to Syria and Hamas.

I mean, if the Israelis were really having a general change of heart about talking peaceably toward their ‘enemies’, then they would be showing the same willingness to talk to Iran. But no; they are MORE fanatically belligerent toward Iran with each passing day. So it’s obvious: they want relations with Hamas and Syria to be temporarily pacific, and they will return to their old ways as soon as they and the US have “taken care of”  i.e., destroyed  Iran. It’s nauseating.

Hamas does not want a state along side Israel; their charter calls for the elimination of Israel.

Pappe’s book, which I’ve read, is so full of misinformation that it defies imagination. It was a contentious time in 1948, even more than now, when the UN and nations decided to satisfy the inhabitants, land for each would be established. The Arabs said no, no, no,to partition and then, waged a war, and still have not made peace with Israel. Could have had a land next to the nascent Israel 60 years ago and since then on other opportunities, but they are on an agenda to destroy Israel. At least any leaders they have are.

Howard: Hamas’ charter does not speak of such a thing. It calls for liberating Palestine and establishing a Muslim State jus as Jews wanting to establish a Jewish state. They are no differnt than the settlers who want to expel the Palestinians to Jordan. Regardless, read Illan Pappe’s book…he is not an ousider or a stranger to Israeli politics.For the past sixty years Israel has been and is still engaged in ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from their towns and villages.

Ever consider that if there is a ‘god’ he does not give a shit about the bricks & mortars left over from millenia ago? and may find it actaully aMortal sin to kill for these ‘Holy’ relics,foresaking all the ‘teachings’ just to control this patch of dirt? What other ‘valuable’commodity lies in Isreal? What benefit has it brought to man -Really?
The original battle beween Cain & Able was a sin Right. So this continued death machine called the ‘Middle East Crisis’ must be no less.Then add the blood thirsty ‘soldiers’ of the power hungry Peter into the mix and you have a world hell bent on possessing the Idolic ‘Holy Land’. It appears all three ‘Relgions’ have missed the Morals of the Stories in their ‘Holy’ books.Of course All three were subjected to editing and embellishments by men who only sought their own fame and Power anyway, so how ‘holy’ can they truely be. Seems to me their efforts only appease the evil which lurks in the heart of men,more then any deity.
But it appears only an Act of God -the obliteration of these Coveted pieces of real estate will be the only thng to convince them their efforts have been misguided and Heretical

We have grown to undestand Israeli peaceful overtures,none of which has produced tangible result.Although,a growing fear among Israeli intelligecia regarding the future of Israel,some stubborn politicians continue with their Apartheid policies as if nothing has changed since Israeli war of 1967.Western governments were accustomed to unquestionably accept Israeli argument regardless of the grievous outcome that may befall the Arabs from such policies.We still remember the Israeli war of 2006 against Lebanon and the young Israelis who were brought by the Israeli Army to engrave their names on the rockets positioned to be sent to the Lebanese villages.The list of crimes committed by Israel against the Palestinians is so lengthy that it will take decades to be sorted out after the liberation of Palestine.Experience has taught us not to trust this entity and what will come through our own efforts shouldn’t be begged for.

Israel wants peace much more than Hamas or Hezballah and all the oher Arab countries which deny its existence and wiil not offer peace…even yet after all these years since 1948 when they waged war upon Israel and then put the Pal’s into refugee camps.

What expansionism and dominance? Lake Michigan is larger than Israel. Israel left Gaza, eg; and rockets and missles, thoussands of them started up to agitate and kill indiscrimately civilans.

I say that because there isn’t a single documented time that Israel has EVER honored any ‘peace’ agreements, and I KNOW they don’t want peace at the price of their continued power, expansion and dominance of their neighbors. Sixty years has proven that.

The Israeli peace overtures to Hamas and Syria are probably tactical and temporary.

Israel expects very soon that the US (with perhaps some little Israeli help) will be launching major warfare against Iran. In preparation for this, it makes sense that Israel would wish to launch some “promising negotiations” with Syria and Hamas. Thus, Israel hopes, Syria and Hamas will keep quiet (not wanting to compromise those “promising negotiations”) while the US and Israel go about their slaughter and destruction in Iran.

Once Iran is in ruins, Israel is likely to renege on these peace offers. Israel does not want peace. Israel wants only power, expansion, and domination of its neighbors.