so he wasn't born in south africa, doesn't have south african parentage, not even entitled to a south african passport. Remind me again, how is he south african?

Did he have a pint of fosters at any time, perhaps you claim him to be australian?

You're just moving away from the fact that you're claiming an athlete as being British when he's Kenyan, and begun his professional career in South Africa. Does it make him South African? No. Apparently makes him British though.

You're just moving away from the fact that you're claiming an athlete as being British when he's Kenyan, and begun his professional career in South Africa. Does it make him South African? No. Apparently makes him British though.

so he wasn't born in south africa, doesn't have south african parentage, not even entitled to a south african passport. Remind me again, how is he south african?

Did he have a pint of fosters at any time, perhaps you claim him to be australian?

You're just moving away from the fact that you're claiming an athlete as being British when he's Kenyan, and begun his professional career in South Africa. Does it make him South African? No. Apparently makes him British though.

English father - pretty obvious how that makes him English.

how is he south african?

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West Adelaide Soccer Club president Alex Alexandrou said the club was still in a position to be playing and training at the new ground either by the end of the 2015 season or in 2016.

You're just moving away from the fact that you're claiming an athlete as being British when he's Kenyan, and begun his professional career in South Africa. Does it make him South African? No. Apparently makes him British though.

Does that make Tim Cahill English?

Well he's more English than he is australian. 25% English, 25% irish, 50% samoan but with a birth right to represent australia.

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West Adelaide Soccer Club president Alex Alexandrou said the club was still in a position to be playing and training at the new ground either by the end of the 2015 season or in 2016.

More than happy to back track where I am technically wrong. I'm a big boy.

A very watered down Pom then in my opinion. My opinion only. Then again, most countries will cling to anything where success is involved.

Dual nationality is a horse's ass. You are from where you were born in my opinion, but I don't make the rules I guess!

For me, parentage is far more important than the location of birth. Being born in England doesn't even guarantee you a passport. You have to be born in England to parents with the right of abode in England to get one.

Froome has an English father and that's perfectly English in my mind. He was entitled to a British passport at birth, so again - that's good enough for me.

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West Adelaide Soccer Club president Alex Alexandrou said the club was still in a position to be playing and training at the new ground either by the end of the 2015 season or in 2016.

More than happy to back track where I am technically wrong. I'm a big boy.

A very watered down Pom then in my opinion. My opinion only. Then again, most countries will cling to anything where success is involved.

Dual nationality is a horse's ass. You are from where you were born in my opinion, but I don't make the rules I guess!

For me, parentage is far more important than the location of birth. Being born in England doesn't even guarantee you a passport. You have to be born in England to parents with the right of abode in England to get one.

Froome has an English father and that's perfectly English in my mind. He was entitled to a British passport at birth, so again - that's good enough for me.

Despite the fact the England had very little to do with his beginnings and development in the Sport? A bit hard to fathom, seems like convenience to me.

More than happy to back track where I am technically wrong. I'm a big boy.

A very watered down Pom then in my opinion. My opinion only. Then again, most countries will cling to anything where success is involved.

Dual nationality is a horse's ass. You are from where you were born in my opinion, but I don't make the rules I guess!

For me, parentage is far more important than the location of birth. Being born in England doesn't even guarantee you a passport. You have to be born in England to parents with the right of abode in England to get one.

Froome has an English father and that's perfectly English in my mind. He was entitled to a British passport at birth, so again - that's good enough for me.

Despite the fact the England had very little to do with his beginnings and development in the Sport? A bit hard to fathom, seems like convenience to me.

blood is ticker than paper, the guy has English blood. Don't see how you can deny that someone with an English father (and grand parents) is English.

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West Adelaide Soccer Club president Alex Alexandrou said the club was still in a position to be playing and training at the new ground either by the end of the 2015 season or in 2016.

So, someone comes from afghanistan on a tourist visa and gives birth when here and now can stay because their child is australian. Could be a way of avoiding immigration hassles.

they do already - what's your point?![/quote]

that it's wrong and should be allowed. eg. in England they would not be entitled to stay as they are not considered English. So under your theory of place of birth only mattering, an English person wouldn't be allowed to live in England.

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West Adelaide Soccer Club president Alex Alexandrou said the club was still in a position to be playing and training at the new ground either by the end of the 2015 season or in 2016.

So, someone comes from afghanistan on a tourist visa and gives birth when here and now can stay because their child is australian. Could be a way of avoiding immigration hassles.

they do already - what's your point?!

that it's wrong and should be allowed. eg. in England they would not be entitled to stay as they are not considered English. So under your theory of place of birth only mattering, an English person wouldn't be allowed to live in England.[/quote]

should be allowed eh?

that is england's problem and the individual in question's. i don't care!

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