So I planned on getting into this game about 2 years ago, so I bought some stuff to get started and I'm curious if it's still decent to start with! Mind you I never really learned the game properly since it was a small group of folks starting up in my town and I ended up moving before I could get into it. So I bought on recommendation.

>Not mat 6 so likely mat 4. Mat 7 'is never going to happen' >Stats more or less the same as the Mountain King but I wasn't given any real details>Animus Frozen Ground is just like the IKRPG version but within 2 inches

Lol only thing worth fucking buying is Winter Guard and every fucking Khador player in the world has them. Why did you even bother to list the auction?

Just fucking put it on Barter Town and pray someone wants the WG, otherwise good luck. Maybe you can "accidentally" leave them on the table at your LGS and some idiot who doesn't know how horrible Manowars are will pick it up and play it 1 time before they're stuck with the curse of having so many terrible models.

>>40521554Against Legion you only really have a number of options. Kaya2 can do okay but not great, Baldur2 does okay into a number of Legion lists but outside of his feat turn most of the time the Naga ruins your fun, pMorv works against anything that isn't Vayl2, and our best all around drop into Legion and generally the most favored one is Krueger2. Stormwall is a huge boon to the matchup, druids allow you to trade somewhat favorably and counter magic is a big deal in several legion matchups, TK is TK and lets you threat to deal with their threat ranges a bit better, and best of all is his feat can sometimes let you get one to two beasts scott free with a feat turn and even be used to trade feats with Saeryn. But then everything dies to Lylyth 2

The sad thing was, I was only yesterday thinking that Morghoul2 would be way better if he had Garyles feat. Stealth for your whole army is actually pretty decent for Skorne. The other part of his feat is just a bonus for some stuff like Molik or the Artchadon who can kill something and fatewalker/Sprint away with the +3." Plus is gives Morghoul an extra 3" on his threat for an assassination.

Well a lot of things would be silly in other factions. Like Grayle's feat would be amazing in Cryx, Khador, or even Gators. His feat is the niftiest part about him though. What drags Grayle down the most is his spell list. Also funnily enough Morghoul2's feat would be damn near broke in any other faction as well. A larger control area could help too.

>>40525509Dude, easy easy, that said. Man O Wars are subprime but frankly I adore em they're a great meat wall in the right hands like Irusk2 as always, slow is smooth. Khador takes hits and truck forwards. WGIDS with man o wars, Kovnik joe and A Iron fang pike men or even just under Irusk2 are fucking fun as shit to run.

>>40526367No, PP fucked it up. They half assedly thought that assassination is not a fun game to play so they nerfed the shit out of in-your face casters or casters with high personal offense potential. That's why Thyra, Kara Sloan, Strakhov, Venethrax are so all fucking underwhelming while Morghoul 2, Rhyas got gutted.

Then E Caine was allowed to happen and PP realized that people don't really give a shit about assassination loss, and Butcher 3 happened.

Morghoul2's feat would actually be pretty decent in Circle. Still, not great though. Maybe better for Legion actually. +2 Def to your beasts and the ability to walk back 2" if the enemy tries to shoot you and miss is pretty good in an all ranged beast faction with relatively high def.

Still strictly worse than Mordikaars feat unfortunately.

Grayle was obviously designed to try and be a "super solo." They obviously wanted him to be charging up, killing shit and side step/sprinting away. Unfortunately he just isn't quite strong enough or survivable enough for that to happen.

I still don't understand giving him Awareness. I know the idea was that he uses it to let shit charge thorough forests or whatever but, damn, just so pointless.

For being a stabby weapon master chick, Thyra really isn't much of an "assassin." None of her spells are all that assassination oriented. Her spells are more geared towards supporting infantry attrition than trying to slingshot stuff in for a kill like, say, Strakov. She is pretty decent support caster who I think is mistaken for an assassin. She's not bad at all.

>>40526470I remember at one point in testing, Grevious Wound and Arcane Assassin were switched, but a vocal minority was upset because they didn't like having to cast Arcane Assassin on eMorg, so PP changed it.