* This is my pet Land Shark, Cuddles, who gives me kisses every morning and makes me scrambled eggs just the way i like them* Punish the deed, not the breed -- which is gentle and kind and sweet as gummi bears dipped in whipped cream* But here's a pitbull identity chart -- so there's no such breed* Other dogs kill people, too. Like that Pomeranian and the baby the one time* Anyway ... bad owner, not bad dog* And if the breed exists -- and i'm not saying it does -- breed specific legislation doesn't work* Again, a picture of Cuddles, whom i rescued from an animal shelter and who just loves children and kittens and plays the cello* If cats were bigger they'd be illegal ... so, there ...* If you ban one breed the next worst breed will be next until no dogs will exist anywhere, ever, you monsters* CSB - one time Cuddles ate my neighbour's cat and we laughed and laughed and laughed* Here's Cuddles doing trigonometry and serving soup to the homeless

Yogimus:Saborlas: I'd like to know more about the animal RAISING these dogs. Dogs tend to have to be trained to attack people without provocation, and most animals put up with a fair amount of provocation from small children due to instinctively knowing that they're little kids.

Saborlas:I'd like to know more about the animal RAISING these dogs. Dogs tend to have to be trained to attack people without provocation, and most animals put up with a fair amount of provocation from small children due to instinctively knowing that they're little kids.

Vodka Zombie:We don't let retarded people fly fighter jets for the same reason we shouldn't let idiots own pit bulls.

They aren't easy dogs to raise unless you know what the hell you're doing. Seriously. If you've never owned a dog in your life, and you're thinking of getting a pit bull to keep you company in your tiny apartment, do yourself a favor and get a fish.

Carousel Beast:Saborlas: I'd like to know more about the animal RAISING these dogs. Dogs tend to have to be trained to attack people without provocation, and most animals put up with a fair amount of provocation from small children due to instinctively knowing that they're little kids.

Friction8r:stonelotus: Friction8r: A pitbull attacked my Akita once...bad mistake. My Akita reversed the hold, put the pitbull down and had him by the throat when I got there. I grabbed the pitbull by the collar and launched him like a discus about 30 feet. The owner biatched until everyone at the dog park told her to get her stupid dog out of the park. VERY satisfying!/screw pitbulls//and their ghetto owners

/CSB

Thanks. Here's another: concert in city park. Crowds flock to tent due to rain. Couple bring their pitbulls into tent near children. Lightning strikes. Dogs get upset and lunge at children. Entire crowd tells owners to leave NOW and take their psycho dogs with them or die. Again...VERY satisfying!/screw pitbulls//and their ghetto owners

Here's one for you... This guy I knew used to always take his pitbull with him in his old 70's customized van whenever he would go fishing. He'd always stop at McDonald's and get his dog a happy meal. The dog LOVED happy meals but he usually tore the toys to shreds LOL. Anyway, this one day it was really rainy but my friend decided to go fishing anyway. It was thundering something fierce and it was one of those days that looked like nighttime in the middle of the day. You could smell a faint hint of ozone from the lightning strikes. If you've never gone fishing in the rain I highly recommend it. Something about the raindrops hitting the water brings out the lunkers. Like they think it's bugs landing on the water or something. My buddy and his dog were cruising along like they always did, the dog's window rolled down so he could stick his snout out the window, rain coming in the window, Led Zeppelin IVcranked up on the stereo.

They had both just finished their lunch from McDonalds and were almost to the creek when a mother squirrel and her brood of baby squirrels made an attempt to cross the slick road in front of the van. My friend instinctively hit the brakes and wrenched the steering wheel to avoid splattering the little squirrel family all over hell and creation. When he did, he just narrowly avoided the squirrels but his van went into a sideways slide. The wheels hit a dry spot of road that had been shielded from the rain by a big elm tree, grabbed hold of the asphalt, and highsided the van. The van rolled once down the wet grassy embankment on the side of the road and came to an abrupt stop. The pitbull was flung free of the van through the half open window but Paul was still inside. He was knocked out cold but still held in place by his seatbelt. The pit loyally stayed by his master's side until a passing driver stopped when he saw the van pitched in the ditch. The driver approached the van but my friend's dog made no aggressive moves toward the driver. He seemed to sense this guy was here to help.

When the EMT/Fire Rescue showed up they had to use the Jaws Of Life to pry the driver's side door open. When they got the door open and stuck their heads inside to check on my friend, Stairway to Heaven was still playing on the stereo! Oh, and when the passerby stopped? The dog chased down and ate those farking squirrels.

As the owner holds on to his collar, juuuuussst in case Bacchus goes nuts.

If by goes nuts you mean accidentally knocks her over with overly enthusiastic licking, then yes.

He's got 30 lbs on her and she only has 2 legs.

Yeah she only has 2 legs NOW, but after the pitbull goes nuts she may only have one leg. Good job!

Or three!

Maybe she gets so excited by meeting a nice doggy and she turns to her mother but trips and puts a hand out to catch herself but wedges it in a big crack in the sidewalk and breaks it. Then it turns out that the ER doctor is a mad scientist.

gunther_bumpass:towatchoverme: gunther_bumpass: Seriously though.. do you really think that one or two incidents a year represent an entire breed? Even half a dozen? Out of the (very conservatively) hundreds of thousands of examples of that breed that are out there? You might be a fool.

shiat, I don't even have a dog and I know better.

"32 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2013. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 700 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 78% (25) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6% of the total U.S. dog population."

Yeah, you really schooled me.

That means nothing without a survey of owner traits. Try again, balloon head.

We can't have contextual information that would run contrary to the narrative! That would be rational!

evilmousse:if we're going to be species-ist, i know of a mammal that walks upright and inflicts uncomparably more suffering on others, let's get all them caged up and euthanized before moving on to the dogs

yeah. look three posts above this one, sport. That pit bull gave the baby a kiss the mom will never forget, anyway.

You're right. Pit Bulls are uncontrollable killers that can SNAP at any second for no reason. They can't help it, it's in their blood.

Just like black people.

false equivalency is false.

The sad thing is it is a completely accurate comparison, and you can't/won't get it. It was quite enlightening when I first had someone cross to the other side of the street when I was walking Bacchus. I really understood something I only thought I did before.

But it's ok, you pants wetters are losing credibility and influence because of people like me, and so many others who properly raise, care for, socialize and train pit bulls. Breed specific legislation is being overturned where it was knee jerked into place, and rejected where introduced now. You can forget ever outlawing Pits, it ain't gonna happen now.

I didn't even want a pit when I decided to get a dog. I specifically wanted a non-pit because of all of the prejudice and ignorance. My mom and I went to 3 different shelters and "interviewed" 8 different dogs of many different breeds. Bacchus was so sweet, so good natured that I took him home 2 days later. He has gone from being found wandering the streets in a shiatty city to a home where he is loved, and he has proven himself to be a wonderful, good boy. :)

GoldSpider:moothemagiccow: I doubt it, but either way, dogs are assholes of the highest degree. It's pretty much "I demand you stop ignoring me!" which has all the charm of a stalker or rapist.

A friend has two Labs about a year and a half old. They are sweet dogs and are hysterical to watch play/wrestle together. However as friendly as they may be, they are tiresome to deal with and because of that I don't visit nearly as often as I used to. They bark, they jump, they rake, they beg, they mouth things and leave drool all over them, and almost constantly demand attention... things that a non-dog-owner isn't accustomed to dealing with, and frankly (at least in my case) find REALLY irritating REALLY fast, and a lot of dog owners don't seem to understand that.

Dogs are like anything else, really. You get out of it what you put in. If you enjoy being outside, throwing a ball, frisbee, whatever, if you enjoy having a trained dog, you'll love it. It can be rewarding. If you don't want to be bothered with all the walking, get a cat and a litter box, everyone will be better off. And if that's too much, get a hamster and a good stiff terlet paper tube.

evilmousse:if we're going to be species-ist, i know of a mammal that walks upright and inflicts uncomparably more suffering on others, let's get all them caged up and euthanized before moving on to the dogs

The baby was in a swing when Lucky, a golden retriever-Labrador mix, bit the child several times and tore off his legs, authorities said.The child's father, Quintin, was in the home at the time, police said. He was in another room asleep with the family's 3-year-old and their other dog.

Something doesn't add up

The other dog was a pit, but it obviously didn't do it as it was found licking blood off the child's legs in an attempt to heal him. The lab mix was in the corner with a guilty look on its face.

kindms:theknuckler_33: Logan was left alone, eating ice cream, while his mother, a teenage cousin and the other adults were talking in another room.

And by 'talking' they mean 'getting high'.

The same thought came in to my head as soon as I read the article. What other reason are you leaving the young impressionable one alone in a room. And maybe they concocted the story of them being crated AFTER the kid was found mauled.

Maybe they just wanted to do away with the little brat, and they knew leaving him locked in a hot car would look suspicious.

Stick him in with Uncle Jed's crazy dogs, and let him cover himself in ice cream to sweeten the deal. The dogs take all the heat, an the humans get off scot-free. The only way this would have looked more suspicious is if they'd given the kid some raw meat to play with instead of ice cream.

* This is my pet Land Shark, Cuddles, who gives me kisses every morning and makes me scrambled eggs just the way i like them* Punish the deed, not the breed -- which is gentle and kind and sweet as gummi bears dipped in whipped cream* But here's a pitbull identity chart -- so there's no such breed* Other dogs kill people, too. Like that Pomeranian and the baby the one time* Anyway ... bad owner, not bad dog* And if the breed exists -- and i'm not saying it does -- breed specific legislation doesn't work* Again, a picture of Cuddles, whom i rescued from an animal shelter and who just loves children and kittens and plays the cello* If cats were bigger they'd be illegal ... so, there ...* If you ban one breed the next worst breed will be next until no dogs will exist anywhere, ever, you monsters* CSB - one time Cuddles ate my neighbour's cat and we laughed and laughed and laughed* Here's Cuddles doing trigonometry and serving soup to the homeless

Csb

When I was a kid, my step dad (who was a real piece of work) bought us a huge pit bull as a pet. It was all white except for a brown spot over its eye, so we called it Pete after the little rascals dog.

Anyway, it was a complete land shark. We used to have stray cats that walked the back fence, but Pete would charge the fence, jump and slam into it hard enough to knock the cat off, and into our yard. You could always tell when Pete had eaten a cat, because she would poop fur for the next few days./end csb

And when I look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States , you will see that yes, recently the number of pitt attacks has increased drastically over time.

But is that because people now report "pitt bull" when an animal attacks, because there are suddenly MORE pitt bulls than ever before, or because they are suddenly now attacking at a much larger percentage of the time?

AntonChigger:How many attacks were there overall? Its an important piece of information because part of the reason pit bulls make up a large portion of the fatalities is due to how strong they are. It could be that they attack less often than some other breeds, but due to how strong they are when they attack it results in far more serious injury.

evilmousse:if we're going to be species-ist, i know of a mammal that walks upright and inflicts uncomparably more suffering on others, let's get all them caged up and euthanized before moving on to the dogs

Saborlas:I'd like to know more about the animal RAISING these dogs. Dogs tend to have to be trained to attack people without provocation, and most animals put up with a fair amount of provocation from small children due to instinctively knowing that they're little kids.