Police now say that the former marine accused of killing the countrys best sniper and another man at a shooting range now says that he threatened to kill himself and his family back in September and he was hospitalized.

A police report from the September 2 incident states they were alerted to the threat when they received a call about 25-year-old Eddie Ray Routh, who is now in jail on two murder counts for allegedly killing Chris Kyle and Chad Littlefield.

Eddie stated he was hurting and that his family does not understand what he has been through, the police report says.

The Dallas Morning News reports that when officers arrived on the scene they found Eddie walking outside the family home without shoes or a shirt, and smelling like alcohol.

His mother said that the argument started when his father said that they were going to take away his gun.

She stated Eddie began arguing and stated that he was going to blow his brains out, the report stated.

As it has been previously reported, Routh allegedly told police at the scene that he has post traumatic stress disorder.

He was arrested on Saturday evening following the afternoon shooting at the gun range, and while he was reportedly calm during the arrest, his time in jail has not been as smooth.

A police report from the September 2 incident states they were alerted to the threat when they received a call about 25-year-old Eddie Ray Routh, who is now in jail on two murder counts for allegedly killing Chris Kyle and Chad Littlefield

He allegedly made a threat or he "made" a threat?

He's accused of allegedly shooting two men standing next to him. Hope they caught the right guy.

A police report from the September 2 incident states they were alerted to the threat when they received a call about 25-year-old Eddie Ray Routh, who is now in jail on two murder counts for allegedly killing Chris Kyle and Chad Littlefield

He allegedly made a threat or he "made" a threat?

He's accused of allegedly shooting two men standing next to him. Hope they caught the right guy.

I don’t know how anyone could give you flak for that. I think that’s the main argument for our side in this whole manuafactured debate. We need to get nutty people out of common society, and especially away from places like gun ranges.

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posted on 02/04/2013 5:13:13 PM PST
by ilgipper
(Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)

In case you haven't picked up on it yet, the new liberal MEME on guns is that people with PTSD should not be allowed guns.

All veterans suffer from PTSD in some form or other. (Soon you will see many professionals putting forth this particular meme to set the stage.)

Why? Because a high majority of veterans support the 2nd Amendment AND own guns. And if you make it illegal for anyone suffering PTSD from owning a gun you take out a major portion of private gun ownership in one fell swoop!

Something about all this just does not sound right.Chris Kyle was a very saavy man, and if Routh was so dysfunctional that he was having impulsive episodes of p[ost traumatic stress, Kyle would have likely known of it.

Roth murdered two men and then proceeded to act rationally, stealing a truck, running from having done what he knew was wrong. If he was so debilitated or hallucinating, he would have collapsed in emotional distress and shot himslef or injured himself.Some things just do not fit.

This has elements of a planned hit, accomplished with some kind of rationality. We do not know what the motive could be, but there are a surprising number of highly effective leaders in the conservative/libertarian field who have been joining the Obama dead pool, from Bloomberg on. I’d say that NRA president Wayne LaPierre has something to worry about.

WHO would have told Kyle about this nut’s psychiatric record? Or his arrests? I don’t think they are allowed to divulge that information to nonfamily members.
It’s highly likely that Chris Kyle had no idea how deranged this guy was.
WHO initiated the contact between Kyle and the shooter? Was he assigned to Kyle by whatever org was monitoring him? If so, who assigned him? Did THEY know about his extreme episodes?

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posted on 02/04/2013 5:38:18 PM PST
by MestaMachine
(Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)

I doubt if Kyle and Littlefield knew about the incident. He evidently was allowed to keep his gun even though he was supposedly hospitalized for threatening people. So they would have no reason to know about the incident in September.

Sounds to me the professionals had a duty to make sure he he could no longer possess a gun.

Im sure ill catch a lot of flak on here for saying this but, why would you take someone that unstable to the shooting range?

This incident has me thinking. I have made a point over the last several years to get involved with local vets. Many are members at my gun club ... before they went to war. I like to hunt, fish, shoot and watch sports. So do some vets around here. Maybe it is culture thing. It is just as acceptable as playing a round of golf. Unstable people can be found on golf courses and gun ranges. The trick is recognizing that they are unstable. You can get whacked over the head with a 3-iron and be just as dead as being shot.

This has elements of a planned hit, accomplished with some kind of rationality. We do not know what the motive could be, but there are a surprising number of highly effective leaders in the conservative/libertarian field who have been joining the Obama dead pool, from Bloomberg on. Id say that NRA president Wayne LaPierre has something to worry about.

I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I'm betting you have a good point. If I were investigating this I'd be looking for to see if this guy had any offshore bank accounts. Look for any deposits from any place that ends in stan. On the other hand if the terrorist were behind it you would expect them to claim credit, but then you never know.

What is more clear is that a lot of people are getting suckered in by assuming that we need more laws against the mentally ill. I'm no prophet, but watch more rules against guns in the hands of the mentally unstable will be the ‘compromise’ solution. And based on what Ann Coulter and others have written and said the moderates that the plague the conservative movement will swallow it hook line and sinker. I don't know what the answer is, but I know that more government control on our kids or disarming veterans is not the answer. Now you can't say you were warned.

Not only that, but it is just as likely, possibly much more likely that the suspect’s symptoms were from serious mental illness (the biochemical kind like bi-polar or schizophrenia) than they were from PTSD.

He’s the perfect age (25) for onset, has suicidal/homicidal ideation, reports severe mental distress, all of which could easily be more symptomatic of a developing psychosis as PTSD, especially if he’s been self medicating with alcohol or drugs.

But the media isn’t going to look at the mental illness angle, they instead focus on the “vets are trained killers and dangerous to society / military service is bad for mental health” meme.

Not only that, but it is just as likely, possibly much more likely that the suspect’s symptoms were from serious mental illness (the biochemical kind like bi-polar or schizophrenia) than they were from PTSD.

He’s the perfect age (25) for onset, has suicidal/homicidal ideation, reports severe mental distress, all of which could easily be more symptomatic of a developing psychosis as PTSD, especially if he’s been self medicating with alcohol or drugs.

But the media isn’t going to look at the mental illness angle, they instead focus on the “vets are trained killers and dangerous to society / military service is bad for mental health” meme.

What is more clear is that a lot of people are getting suckered in by assuming that we need more laws against the mentally ill.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I would be surprised if they actually find exception to keeping patient records secure under HIPPA with a duty of physicians to report a “no gun allowed” mental patient.

The doctors will just go on a liberal rampage, deciding that any one under their care should not have a high health risk “gun.” Why should doctors just be able to remove a right without due process? There needs to be a process.
Or they need to forget about it and allow people to protect themselves through having their own arms.Freedom is the answer, not arcane, tyrannical supervision.

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