However, many businesses have consumers who are connected to them in order to do business, which calls into question the original idea of the ‘perimeter’ or at least raises the question of where the perimeter now is. If I’m connected to my bank I am part of their network, and unknowingly have as much potential to introduce risks onto the bank network as one of their employees. My interaction with the bank could, inadvertently, create a problem for the bank in the same way that an employee could.

Maybe it’s time for organisations to consider the fact that the perimeter has gone and to treat customers who connect to them in the same way as they treat their staff, in terms of education and making them aware of the risks.

Banks seemed to do well in terms of trust online, with 63% of respondents trusting their bank with online transactions. Why do you think that is?Despite what has happened recently, banks have historically been trusted and, in an online sense, banks do better at educating their customers. In my experience banks lead the way in communicating with customers in terms of which attacks they may be vulnerable to. They are also good at educating customers in what they can do to protect themselves, which in turn helps protect the bank from risks borne by online users.

Banks have also been proactive in terms of security measures like two factor authentication. That seems to be a conscious decision from the banks, who see their customers are part of their network and are therefore extending this level of authentication to them too.

Social networks came out bottom in terms of trust online – but that lack of trust doesn’t seem to stop people from using them.Social networks top the overall usage charts, but rank bottom in terms of trust. It seems that in the online world people behave totally differently, and convenience overweighs any risks.

Turning to the RANT conference – these stats should worry attendees, if the vast majority of people simply don’t trust online businesses with their data.The message to attendees is about how you start to bring trust into your risk or information security strategy. If the focus is just on the perimeter and not on the access consumers have to the network, then it is likely that your data is at greater risk, and that your users don’t trust you as much as you perhaps would like.

What is the message Integralis wants to deliver to the event?The title of the discussion we’re running is ‘In banks we trust and in trust we bank’. Our message to CISOs is to start considering your customers as part of your network, and educate them and provide the tools to protect themselves just as you would with staff. In this way not only will your business be more secure, but your customers may even start to invest their trust – which must be worthwhile.

Let’s start by hearing a sneak preview of the talk you’ll be giving at RANT?It will be on the subject of cyber war. The way some people talk about it annoys me, so that makes me passionate. It annoys me when people use phrases like “Digital Pearl Harbour” and compare the proliferation of cyber weapons with nuclear weapons. The way we overegg some of the threats, and make them sound like significant problems when they are not that important at all, does us no favours. I think we’d be better off being more realistic about the threats and benefits.

I’ll be saying that what’s happening now isn’t war and draw some parallels between what war is and isn’t like. But I’ll also talk about what it would look like if we did have a cyber war. I don’t think cyber war is impossible or all made up but I think the use of the phrase is wrong.

Using the word “war” and describing what’s happening now in that way normalises war, which I think is a terrible thing. Cyber war is only likely if we keep making it more and more normal.

And what about the panel you’ll be part of?I hope that will be a little more light-hearted! The other talk is more about “You’re all doing it wrong, stop it,” and this is a bit more humorous. We’ve assembled a panel of people that have never sought to be security rock stars, but given them a platform to discuss how they became security rock stars and what the benefits are. They will also be offering advice to aspiring security rock stars! It’s firmly tongue-in-cheek, though.

With such an experienced panel the audience will be hanging on your every word. What’s the message you want them to take away from that and your talk?To enjoy it would be my advice. With my talk, it’s very much about getting people to stand up and challenge people who throw around terrifying expression when they don’t match. It’s also about changing the message around cyber war and getting people to think about the definition of war, the Geneva Convention and so on. I think people perhaps aren’t properly preparing: people should be working harder to make war less likely and also working to reduce the consequences of it.

If phrases such as cyber war and Digital Pearl Harbour are wrong, what should we be calling it?It’s just crime and theft. It’s still bad and can damage organisations and people, but it’s a crime, not war. And the proper response to crime is law enforcement, not intelligence agencies and the military. The more we position simple crimes as military actions the more comfortable people will be with taking military action.

I’m going to talk a bit about the features we see at the very high end in terms of espionage work and compare that to war. There are not very many stealth wars; once you’ve invaded you have to stand up and say hello. Mostly what we’re seeing is crime with a bit of espionage thrown in. A denial of service (DoS) is not war, it’s a protest, a riot. You stop protests and riots by arresting and prosecuting people, not by cluster bombing. There is a line and we need to be very clear about it.

You have been involved with The RANT Events for many years now. What do you think sets it apart from other security events?It has an authenticity; it’s people talking about what they are passionate about rather than what they are told to be passionate about. There is an element of truth to the event; it’s a way to cut through some of the hype that can dominate the security industry. There are no keynotes where a DLP vendor tells you how important DLP is, or an antivirus vendor telling you how important that is.

RANT feels very much like a community, with people engaging and being honest about the things they like and dislike. I think that’s powerful and an important step towards being a more mature industry.

Posted onMay 16, 2013byAcumin|Comments Off on Top industry professionals set to flock to London for the upcoming RANT Conference

June’s RANT conference will see a selection of top IT Security industry professionals take to the stage.

The RANT Conference in St Paul’s London is a little under a month away now and anticipation amongst information security professionals is growing by the day.

On June 11th 2013 a full day of enlightening, informative and engaging presentations and interactive debate panels conducted by a selection of of the IT security industry’s most influential thought leaders, Rockstars, Futurologists, Innovators, and Ranters has been scheduled.

Acumin has been running the monthly Risk and Network Threat Forum (RANT) since 2007. It serves as an end user only, informal networking, discussion and debate event for senior professionals working within the information security and risk management market.

Every month a new speaker attends to start a rant about a particular hot topic within the industry and actively encourages the audience to pitch in with their points of view, opinions and suggestions in a relaxed and informal atmosphere.

The first RANT Conference in June will see well known speakers Stephen Bonner of KPMG and Mark Stevenson of Futurologist take to the stage amongst plenty of other top industry professionals to talk about the biggest issues the sector is currently wrestling with.

Some of these topics include bring your own device – which serves up the notoriously well known acronym BYOD – mobile device management, secure outsourcing, and the major threats currently facing cyber security.

Mark Stevenson, founder of The League of Pragmatic Optimists, will also be attending to give a keynote speech on ‘The Big Shift’, highlighting the major role the security industry has to play in helping shape the future.

State sponsored espionage and the pressing issue of mobile security will also be explored later in the day by a selection of top industry RANT’ers.

The RANT Conference is designed for information security managers, directors, chief information security officers and other senior information security and risk professionals who work within end user organisations.

June 11th really is an essential date for the 2013 IT security calendar and the event is not to be missed by industry professionals!

The conference has seen a high number of registrations already, places are going fast so be sure to register ASAP to secure your spot. Discount codes are available, email Gemma on gemma@rantconference.co.uk to see how you can get one.