California wants 21 more Billion Dollars from Broke American Tax payers So as to pay thier bills and thus keep thier standard of living up.

California wants 21 more Billion Dollars from Broke American Tax payers So as to pay thier bills and thus keep thier standard of living up.

seems California by now would slash all Goverment over head across the state so as to have the funds to start supporting thier own State bills now. Since things are not getting better..other States slashed State and city wide Goverment expenses and payrolls at once to meet the new economic challanges that they faced .. California has been giv en close to one hundred billion in the last 18 months . Should americas tax payers across america continue pay califorias lavish up keep, While it continues it foolish fiscal policies that not and have not substainable for years now , any way ., i think they need to live on supe slim state wide budget like other states have to do now..

Ephesians 5:23_(King James Version)"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body."

Re: California wants 21 more Billion Dollars from Broke American Tax payers So as to pay thier bills and thus keep thier standard of living up.

Looks like the initial steps towards the federalization of US states. More money means more control. Another step in the process towards National Socialism. The question is can the PTB time everything to maximize the benefits of possible civil unrest due to a fast falling standard of living.

Re: California wants 21 more Billion Dollars from Broke American Tax payers So as to pay thier bills and thus keep thier standard of living up.

Just remember folks that Sacramento has gone rogue.

Down here in San Diego, we've cut everything left and right, with more cuts to come. Our mayor announced about two months ago that the free ride was over, it was time to cut everything back down to a reasonable size. We're seeing all sorts of services get cut, government office furloughs, assistance program cuts, transportation, emergency response, everything (aside from fire response). While we've been doing that, Sacramento keeps trying to steal whatever money we have readily available. San Diego has a couple of lawsuits against Sacramento over this.

I don't know what LA's situation is, but more and more I suspect San Diegans would rather we were no longer required to answer to Sacramento. SD has become strongly conservative (not counting the college kids) in the last few years, we aren't really willing to put up with too much more of this BS.

Re: California wants 21 more Billion Dollars from Broke American Tax payers So as to pay thier bills and thus keep thier standard of living up.

Just remember folks that Sacramento has gone rogue.

Down here in San Diego, we've cut everything left and right, with more cuts to come. Our mayor announced about two months ago that the free ride was over, it was time to cut everything back down to a reasonable size. We're seeing all sorts of services get cut, government office furloughs, assistance program cuts, transportation, emergency response, everything (aside from fire response). While we've been doing that, Sacramento keeps trying to steal whatever money we have readily available. San Diego has a couple of lawsuits against Sacramento over this.

I don't know what LA's situation is, but more and more I suspect San Diegans would rather we were no longer required to answer to Sacramento. SD has become strongly conservative (not counting the college kids) in the last few years, we aren't really willing to put up with too much more of this BS.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 538386

Good post.

With San Diego and Orange County becoming predominately conservative, it's creating a nice So. Cal base of fiscal responsibility, that will hopefully seep into Los Angeles.

Ephesians 5:23_(King James Version)"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body."

Ephesians 5:23_(King James Version)"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body."

Re: California wants 21 more Billion Dollars from Broke American Tax payers So as to pay thier bills and thus keep thier standard of living up.

the Govenor must tell selfish california to cut budgets to bare bones .cause americas broke tax payers no longer want to hear lazy califorian whine any more ., california is still trying to keep workers employeed but at americas own broke tax payer expense . , well that makes no damm common sense .. out of work tax payer in america in other states are homes and forclosed on.. cal must stop leaning on americas broke tax payers .

Re: California wants 21 more Billion Dollars from Broke American Tax payers So as to pay thier bills and thus keep thier standard of living up.

the Govenor must tell selfish california to cut budgets to bare bones .cause americas broke tax payers no longer want to hear lazy califorian whine any more ., california is still trying to keep workers employeed but at americas own broke tax payer expense . , well that makes no damm common sense .. out of work tax payer in america in other states are homes and forclosed on.. cal must stop leaning on americas broke tax payers .

Quoting: anonymous 856010

You're not quite getting my point. The cities need to tell Arnie to cut the budget, not the other way around. The cities are already trying to do this on their own, and Arnie keeps trying to steal money from us as well as you.

If you are just trying to troll, fine. I'll just ignore this thread now.

GLORIA PENNER (Host): Early this morning the California State Senate voted to approve bills that would close to state's $26 billion budget gap, as we taped this program the assembly is still voting, the state has a long way to go to get back on it's sound fiscal ground. But local governments are also wondering how they'll shoulder the burden of the state's budget problems on their already crippled backs. Joining me to talk about the local impact of the state budget deal are Tony Perry, San Diego Bureau Chief for the Los Angeles Times and Tom York, editor of the San Diego Business Journal. Tom let me start with you, what kind of impact will the state budget deal have on San Diego?

TOM YORK (San Diego Business Journal): Well it looks like the state government is going to take up to a $105,000 from the City of San Diego and this is after the city has spent the last couple of years severely cutting it's budget to match the reduced revenues because of the down economy, so this is going to put a severe burden on the city although there is some talk that the city can go out and borrow the money but then that's a cost benefit ratio; if they borrow the money will they get repaid --which the state has promised to do.

PENNER: So he said severe, severe impact on the city but what are we talking about? What are the services? Or what are the programs that are going to take the hit?

TONY PERRY (Los Angeles Times): Well Jerry Sanders has pointed towards street repair which is dear to all of our tires but he has also warned that we can have police and fire cut-backs. Remember police and fire are the major part of the city budget and you can't cut too much, too far without going to public safety. Sanders and a whole bunch of other mayors and supervisors state-wide, are talking about litigating with the state Legislature to stop what Ron Roberts, a supervisor here in San Diego, what he calls theft, he says what they are doing is stealing our money.

PENNER: $100 million is what Jerry Sanders predicts could come out from redevelopment agencies, property gas tax, but one councilman said that this would seriously impact San Diego quality of life. Was that an exaggeration or will we actually feel it?

PERRY: I think we will feel it. I think we've cut all the frills -- now will we feel it so we can no longer survive and we move to Idaho? I don't think so. But if your firefighter is slower getting to your house, if there isn't a cop on the beat, if we have to shut down some parks, we have to knick library hours even more, if we leave those potholes to grow and grow, we're going to feel this. Will it make it catastrophic? No.

PENNER: It won't?

PERRY: It'll still San Diego with wonderful weather and a lot of amenities but it won't be what it is now.

Penner: So you're not planning to move to Idaho either?

PERRY: No, I'm not.

PENNER: No. But he's saying, you know, it's not going to be catastrophic, agree?

YORK: Well, you know I think there's a lot of question marks. First of all there's this unfunded liability issue with the city pension plans, and the city has been trying to make up putting more money into the pension plans to make up for the fact that there's a shortfall down the line. This could have an impact. So it could impact more than just the current crop of employees, but employees that will be retiring in the future.

PENNER: So I don't know whether our local officials are just sort of saying the right thing, but they say they're going to fight it. How are they going to fight this?

YORK: Well I don't think it's going to work. They're going to be fighting it after the fact. It might take months if not years to litigate this in the courts, and it's just a full employment plan for lawyers.

PENNER: How can they fight this? How can we even brace for these cuts?

PERRY: Well I think the theory is that that is not Sacramento's money, that's local money that somehow got to Sacramento because of the sainted Prop 13. We fought this before. The San Diego County government litigated for years with Sacramento after Prop 13, claiming San Diego was getting shorted. I don't remember that being particularly successful. I don't see litigation. If there's anything worse than government by ballot measure, it's government by litigation.

PENNER: Feels like a band aid though. Tom York, it feels like a band aid, is it bound to get worse next year?

YORK: It depends on where the economy goes. As I have described it in past columns, this whole budget is set up on a wing and a prayer and the wing and a prayer is that the economy is going to get better next year. There's no certainty of that.