It is exactly as I told you. Russiagate is a conspiracy between the FBI, the DOJ, and the Hillary campaign to overturn Donald Trump’s election. We have treason committed at the highest levels of the FBI and Department of Justice and the Democratic National Committee.

If you believed one word of Russiagate, you now must laugh or cry at your incredible gullibility.

This scandal should also bring down the presstitute media who have done the dirty work for the conspiracy against Trump.

riskllama wrote:maybe wait a bit until someone other than fox runs it, armati...

It's not just anybody at Fox News. It's Hannity, the looniest looney to ever hold a prime time show. Major, major Trump fanboy -- not some ordinary, garden variety fanboy, but a true, fully committed, lick-his-boot-and-don't-even-wipe-your-tongue fanboy. Birther, climate change denier, professional homophobe, big fan of Roy Moore, promoter of the "death panels" nonsense, etc., etc. Basically karel's soulmate. You just can't get any crazier than Hannity without actually having a suite at the Rubber Castle.

The cited quote is from Paul Craig Roberts. Basically more of the same, but less famous. (Only has a website instead of a TV show.)

The guests in the video are Jim Jordan (about as hard-right as Congressmen come, major enemy of environmental protection, major enemy of birth control, major fan of increasing the military budget so even more countries can get blown up) Matt Gaetz (somewhat milder version of the same) and Sara Carter (basically a Kellyanne Conway clone but with brown hair.)

To get any farther right than these guys, you'd have to start digging through the Nationalist Front.

armati wrote:so, the cc crew actually thinks a foreign government chooses the U.S. president.

You could make an argument Israel chooses the U.S. pres but any other country?

Do you guys think Putin runs the U.S. military? postal service? the city fire departments?

Fixes the U.S. elections? unreal........... hey I know, they fix all the baseball games right? oops my bad, that was Arnold Rothstein. sure sounds Russian tho. Ya, hadda be Russia.

No, actually I don't think the Russians had as much influence as most people give them credit for.

I think it is overwhelmingly likely that people in the Trump campaign asked for and got Russian assistance. It's pretty well documented that agencies tied to the Russian government conducted misinformation campaigns on Trump's behalf.

How much influence those campaigns actually had is highly debatable. 1% of the vote? 3% of the vote? 5% maybe? I doubt if it was even 5% -- I think it was a fairly small percentage, but in a relatively close election, a small percentage may have been exactly what was needed.

Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson, who chairs the Senate Homeland Security Committee, revealed in a Jan. 20 letter that the FBI’s technical system failed to preserve texts that were exchanged between Lisa Page, a lawyer, and Peter Strzok, an agent, between mid-December 2016 through mid-May of 2017.

A spokesman for the FBI and a spokeswoman for the Justice Department declined to comment.

Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson, who chairs the Senate Homeland Security Committee, revealed in a Jan. 20 letter that the FBI’s technical system failed to preserve texts that were exchanged between Lisa Page, a lawyer, and Peter Strzok, an agent, between mid-December 2016 through mid-May of 2017.

A spokesman for the FBI and a spokeswoman for the Justice Department declined to comment.

armati wrote:Dukasaur wrote: I don't think the Russians had as much influence as most people give them credit for.Trump campaign asked for and got Russian assistance

O'RLY?

What assistance did he get. Assange has constantly stated he did not get his leak from Russia. While his official position is to never reveal sources he has almost but said that the leaker was the Democratic party staffer who was mysteriously killed in Washington DC as a "robbery" in which nothing was actuallyt stolen.

Offhanded remarks are not the same as a serious attempt at contact. Clinton's team had more contact with Putin than Trump; just saying.