and to think, there was nothing wrong with it in the beginning, it just made a little bit of noise for 2-3 minutes when cold which you could barely hear over the modified exhaust. hardly any excuse to tear the engine apart,

the cost of putting in a new engine in his car is negligible, but i drive a duramax, bone stock and heard horror storys of guys that had a performance box but took it off before going in to the dealer, the dealer said the on board computer ratted out the trucks owner that it did have a performance box on it at one time..no warranty work.

it's not common practice nor necessary to "drain the block" An oil change is required and the coolant would be drained from the oil pan. I won't get too deep into this as there are far too many keyboard engineers on this forum.

as i mentioned before, you should allow them to make it right.

I've been getting the run around from this dealer since this started. I agree with you to a point but GM saying they won't replace the motor when the pistons obviously took a hit? Then they say it's because the dealer told them that the car is heavily modified? They are both full of shit.

The dent is cosmetic right now maybe, but once heat is applied (cylinder firing) it's a whole new ballgame. I don't feel you are entitled to a replacement engine. however, the pistons should at least be thoroughly inspected and the ones with extremely minor cosmetic damage could be disregarded but the ones that have a full dent or "extra valve relief" i think should be pushed to be replaced. I wish you luck in a fair resolution, the cool head will always come out ahead. so keep to your facts and push for getting your car back the way it came in, minus the lifter issue.

Right on, man. We all have our opinions and I can respect yours. I'm not going irate with with the dealer or the District Rep. I spoke to them very calmly and matter-of-fact.

I still think the pistons AT THE LEAST need to be replaced.

I think if you were in my shoes, you'd have a slightly different opinion. It's easy to armchair QB it when it isn't your car, time or property.

i also had a bad experience with this dealership when i had the noise coming from the rear end. took several trips before they could hear it then when they finally got the parts in they didnt get all the parts needed. took over a week before i got my car back. never been back since. hope everything works out.

Seriously...it looks worse than it is. The pistons, rods and bearings are fine. The valves need replaced, and guides checked. Really, it's a basic repair, in the scheme of things. Let them fix the car before you make an irrational decision. I had a bad incident with NOS on my 5.0. Same result as you. I broke it in the morning, had it running by late afternoon. Did the work in my apartment garage.

i also had a bad experience with this dealership when i had the noise coming from the rear end. took several trips before they could hear it then when they finally got the parts in they didnt get all the parts needed. took over a week before i got my car back. never been back since. hope everything works out.

That sucks, man. I actually really like Larry over there in Service, too. I get all of my parts from Richard in the parts dept as well. Oh well, I guess I'll find another dealer after all of this.

this blows with out a doubt, i would go for a new motor but dont expect it to happen. i would settle on a set of all new valves and pistons. as was mentioned when heat is applied cosmetic issues become something more. especially as i believe there are hypereutectic pistons (not positive) any heavy knock and your ****ed. personally i feel this would be a reasonable fix. i would be very un trusting of a dealership that was dumb enough to say the tech was unhappy about fixing it. after it is all said and done i would write a letter to gm about your total experience. never underestimate what a hand written letter will do!

i also had a bad experience with this dealership when i had the noise coming from the rear end. took several trips before they could hear it then when they finally got the parts in they didnt get all the parts needed. took over a week before i got my car back. never been back since. hope everything works out.

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That sucks, man. I actually really like Larry over there in Service, too. I get all of my parts from Richard in the parts dept as well. Oh well, I guess I'll find another dealer after all of this.

It would be helpful if you would share your situation in this thread: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=297724 so others have a point of reference when they're looking for service in the Austin/San Marcos, TX area. It's stickied at the top of this sub-forum.

I took my car to the dealer for the lifter noises. The dealer decided to install a new cam and lifters. The moron mechanic did not install the cam correctly I guess. They have been VERY vague with the reason this happened and not very forthcoming at all with details.

I just got a call from the service manager and he said:

"The tip of the cam sensor broke and that caused the motor to lose timing. When it lost timing, the valve might have contacted the piston. We ordered new valves and are having them overnighted to us so we can get the car fixed."

He kept mentioning how HARD and DILIGENTLY they are working on my car for a favorable outcome.

I told him I wanted a new motor and if not, they can keep the car and GM can buy me out of it.

I am SO friggin pissed and upset. I DO NOT want a "repaired" motor.

If the guy can't install a damn camshaft, how in the bloody hell do they expect to "rebuild" the heads? No way.