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Yes I do. And at the time, it still benefited the Horde. We didn't lose ground, but gained it in Azeroth with the beginning of the Burning Crusade, and even if Draenor did end up becoming Outland in the end because of it, we still regained much of the terrain, and knew it better than the Alliance's troops that got stuck there with us. In the end, we still gained a great foothold in the new world of Outland, and the Alliance lost yet again another bastion of their troops because they rush in terrain they didn't bother learning about. In the end, after the death of the first Lich King, Arthas answered its treacherous call, decimating Lorderan, killing Menethil, accidentally spawned the Forsaken, and gave us two new allies; The Forsaken and The Blood Elves. The Scourge may have started with the Horde, but we once again learned from that mistake unlike Arthas who continued its terrible power rather than just let it die.

Dude you are talking out of your ass. Spamming "we learned from the mistake" doesn't mean shit. How the fuck did the Horde "learn from their mistakes" when apparently, all they are doing is mistakes?!

>we didn't lose ground, it still benefited the Horde.

Nigga you assploded your world, got your ass kicked so hard that most orcs ended up in POW camps and in the end, the only reason the horde still exists is because of the mercy of the Alliance.

And grats on "gaining a great foothold" on a half of a half of a world that ain't good for shit. BTW, we're 2 mins from that great foothold. The blood fags are irrelevant, the forsaken are a problem but might prove to be a problem for both factions, but what happened with the scourge is not the fault of the alliance, it's an outside enemy that no one was prepared for and, as always, the alliance took the burden of overcoming that enemy. All that the horde did was dunno, delay the demons for a bit or something?

Your Alliance Prince brought back an evil that change Draenor into Outland, which still became most of the Hordes in the end, the Horde are still better Tacticians in war because their methods constantly change over time because of gains, mistakes, and losses, most Orcs did not stay in POW camps (though I admit that a good number of them were there), There were the Orcs in the Black Rock Mountains, and the Orcs still in Outland, which ended up kicking a lot of Alliance and Demon ass. Plus, how did the POW camps work for ya? Ya know, where Thrall came from and reformed a new Horde, which beat the hell out of the Alliance...again! Took the Continent next door, and made a permanent nation of the Horde. Once again, the Alliance never learns. You vanquish a foe, you end the line of that foe's existance. You didn't kill the Orcs, so we raised up again, and kicked your ass with a leader, Thrall that knows all your tricks and weaknesses now. The Horde learned from that and became better at what we do. The Alliance on the other hand, made terrible mistakes that nearly end Azeroth as we know it. Arthas being the pinnacle of that. "The Alliance took the burden" To me that translates to "We fuck up alot, but don't want to admit it." Your "burdens" reassembled agents of chaos and nearly destroyed worlds. If it wasn't for the Horde in Northrend holding massive fronts on both sides, the scourge would be all over us. The Alliance might have been involved with the take down of the new scourge, but they needed a lot of help from the Horde, who had to clean up the mess their shining prince made.

Garrosh actually helped gain ground for the Horde despite his war crimes, and hasn't cost us any allies or terrain. As a matter of fact, we gain half of the Pandaren's favor as a silver lining, and gained more terrain due to more opportunities because of the Cataclysm, which was resolved with the help of Thrall I might add. Despite Garrosh's insanity, he actually helped the Horde in a strange way. So Arthas is still on top as biggest faction traitor on the Alliance side. Garrosh was nothing compared to that.

Yes I do. And at the time, it still benefited the Horde. We didn't lose ground, but gained it in Azeroth with the beginning of the Burning Crusade, and even if Draenor did end up becoming Outland in the end because of it, we still regained much of the terrain, and knew it better than the Alliance's troops that got stuck there with us. In the end, we still gained a great foothold in the new world of Outland, and the Alliance lost yet again another bastion of their troops because they rush in terrain they didn't bother learning about. In the end, after the death of the first Lich King, Arthas answered its treacherous call, decimating Lorderan, killing Menethil, accidentally spawned the Forsaken, and gave us two new allies; The Forsaken and The Blood Elves. The Scourge may have started with the Horde, but we once again learned from that mistake unlike Arthas who continued its terrible power rather than just let it die.

Dude you are talking out of your ass. Spamming "we learned from the mistake" doesn't mean shit. How the fuck did the Horde "learn from their mistakes" when apparently, all they are doing is mistakes?!

>we didn't lose ground, it still benefited the Horde.

Nigga you assploded your world, got your ass kicked so hard that most orcs ended up in POW camps and in the end, the only reason the horde still exists is because of the mercy of the Alliance.

And grats on "gaining a great foothold" on a half of a half of a world that ain't good for shit. BTW, we're 2 mins from that great foothold. The blood fags are irrelevant, the forsaken are a problem but might prove to be a problem for both factions, but what happened with the scourge is not the fault of the alliance, it's an outside enemy that no one was prepared for and, as always, the alliance took the burden of overcoming that enemy. All that the horde did was dunno, delay the demons for a bit or something?

Your Alliance Prince brought back an evil that change Draenor into Outland, which still became most of the Hordes in the end, the Horde are still better Tacticians in war because their methods constantly change over time because of gains, mistakes, and losses, most Orcs did not stay in POW camps (though I admit that a good number of them were there), There were the Orcs in the Black Rock Mountains, and the Orcs still in Outland, which ended up kicking a lot of Alliance and Demon ass. Plus, how did the POW camps work for ya? Ya know, where Thrall came from and reformed a new Horde, which beat the hell out of the Alliance...again! Took the Continent next door, and made a permanent nation of the Horde. Once again, the Alliance never learns. You vanquish a foe, you end the line of that foe's existance. You didn't kill the Orcs, so we raised up again, and kicked your ass with a leader, Thrall that knows all your tricks and weaknesses now. The Horde learned from that and became better at what we do. The Alliance on the other hand, made terrible mistakes that nearly end Azeroth as we know it. Arthas being the pinnacle of that. "The Alliance took the burden" To me that translates to "We fuck up alot, but don't want to admit it." Your "burdens" reassembled agents of chaos and nearly destroyed worlds. If it wasn't for the Horde in Northrend holding massive fronts on both sides, the scourge would be all over us. The Alliance might have been involved with the take down of the new scourge, but they needed a lot of help from the Horde, who had to clean up the mess their shining prince made.

Which we learned from that mistake, regained much of Outland, and built a better Horde doing so. Even with a whole world as a price, we still gained and regained ground because we learned from our own mistakes. Alliance seems to keep making the same mistakes, which made you potentially lose a lot of land, allies, and opportunities. With every mistake the Horde makes, they come out on top to make sure they never make the same mistake. Alliance....not so much. There's another enemy? Storm them head on! Crap we lost. Another enemy? Storm them head on! Crap we lost. and so on. You guys lost more people than the Horde ever will.

Garrosh actually helped gain ground for the Horde despite his war crimes, and hasn't cost us any allies or terrain. As a matter of fact, we gain half of the Pandaren's favor as a silver lining, and gained more terrain due to more opportunities because of the Cataclysm, which was resolved with the help of Thrall I might add. Despite Garrosh's insanity, he actually helped the Horde in a strange way. So Arthas is still on top as biggest faction traitor on the Alliance side. Garrosh was nothing compared to that.

Yes I do. And at the time, it still benefited the Horde. We didn't lose ground, but gained it in Azeroth with the beginning of the Burning Crusade, and even if Draenor did end up becoming Outland in the end because of it, we still regained much of the terrain, and knew it better than the Alliance's troops that got stuck there with us. In the end, we still gained a great foothold in the new world of Outland, and the Alliance lost yet again another bastion of their troops because they rush in terrain they didn't bother learning about. In the end, after the death of the first Lich King, Arthas answered its treacherous call, decimating Lorderan, killing Menethil, accidentally spawned the Forsaken, and gave us two new allies; The Forsaken and The Blood Elves. The Scourge may have started with the Horde, but we once again learned from that mistake unlike Arthas who continued its terrible power rather than just let it die.

Dude you are talking out of your ass. Spamming "we learned from the mistake" doesn't mean shit. How the fuck did the Horde "learn from their mistakes" when apparently, all they are doing is mistakes?!

>we didn't lose ground, it still benefited the Horde.

Nigga you assploded your world, got your ass kicked so hard that most orcs ended up in POW camps and in the end, the only reason the horde still exists is because of the mercy of the Alliance.

And grats on "gaining a great foothold" on a half of a half of a world that ain't good for shit. BTW, we're 2 mins from that great foothold. The blood fags are irrelevant, the forsaken are a problem but might prove to be a problem for both factions, but what happened with the scourge is not the fault of the alliance, it's an outside enemy that no one was prepared for and, as always, the alliance took the burden of overcoming that enemy. All that the horde did was dunno, delay the demons for a bit or something?

Your Alliance Prince brought back an evil that change Draenor into Outland, which still became most of the Hordes in the end, the Horde are still better Tacticians in war because their methods constantly change over time because of gains, mistakes, and losses, most Orcs did not stay in POW camps (though I admit that a good number of them were there), There were the Orcs in the Black Rock Mountains, and the Orcs still in Outland, which ended up kicking a lot of Alliance and Demon ass. Plus, how did the POW camps work for ya? Ya know, where Thrall came from and reformed a new Horde, which beat the hell out of the Alliance...again! Took the Continent next door, and made a permanent nation of the Horde. Once again, the Alliance never learns. You vanquish a foe, you end the line of that foe's existance. You didn't kill the Orcs, so we raised up again, and kicked your ass with a leader, Thrall that knows all your tricks and weaknesses now. The Horde learned from that and became better at what we do. The Alliance on the other hand, made terrible mistakes that nearly end Azeroth as we know it. Arthas being the pinnacle of that. "The Alliance took the burden" To me that translates to "We fuck up alot, but don't want to admit it." Your "burdens" reassembled agents of chaos and nearly destroyed worlds. If it wasn't for the Horde in Northrend holding massive fronts on both sides, the scourge would be all over us. The Alliance might have been involved with the take down of the new scourge, but they needed a lot of help from the Horde, who had to clean up the mess their shining prince made.