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My vote goes to Joe Gibbs. He won 3 SB's, 1 with Joe Theisman, 1 with Mark Rypien and one with Doug Williams. None of those 3 will ever make HOF, and 2 of them were out and out bums. He also revolutionized the league by inventing the single featured back offense. In 1986, the defending Superbowl shuffling Bears finished the season 14-2. Then Gibbs strolled into Soldiers Field and dumped them in the first round of the playoffs-no dynasty for the Bears.

Hard to argue much here. I already stated Gibbs should be higher. Cant argue Lombardi; 5 chamionchips in 7 years...whatever. I contest 2 should be lower: 1. Belichek: If he was so great, how come he sucked for the browns. Take away Vinateri and he wins 0 rings. He went 17-0 and couldn't seal the deal. He lost 2 SB's to lil' brudder. Finally, he's a documented cheater.2. Chuck Knoll: The guy had a HOF roster. How could he not win? I know I know, I just would like to seeGibbs and Parcells ahead of Knoll and Belichek.

Why? You could just as easily argue that Favre would not have been the player he was w/o Holmgren. Look how his play (esp. postseason) declined after Holmgren left. There is no debate Starr was a far better postseason QB, which is, of course, the true test of greatness.

Joe Gibbs was underrated IMO (obviously not in Reilly's). He went to 4 SBs in 10 years with I believe 3 different QBs and 3 different RBs. (Which proves if you have a good O-line it doesn't matter who your RB is). I wonder where Marv Levy would be if he won all 4 Super Bowls(the Bills went to 4 STRAIGHT SBs!) Lastly, Holmgren deserves mentioning, three SBs (one win), two different teams.

Interesting comment on Marv Levy. I was living in the Bay Area while he was coaching Cal, and went to most of their home games. He was absolutely awful. Then a few years later he sets the NFL on fire. Go figure.

Come on Herb, Tony Dungy? That fact that after left TB they won the SB should eliminate him from the top 20 list, great coach just not top 20. And Vermiel, Shottenheimer and Allen over Jimmy J. Lastly, you almost lost me with Halas first.