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<p>I'm sorry,&nbsp;I'm trying to think of a time in which Greenpeace was relevant. But I can't because I, nor do many others, do not give two shiats when it comes to them. A bunch of whiny ass hippies and hipsters who think they are so self-important but honestly don't know shiat about anything</p><p>/Enviromentalist</p><p>//Hates Environmentalist Douchebags and Hipsters.</p>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 19:42:49 +0000Snipzorcomment 207748 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Greenpeace: Nintendo Stills Ranks Worst on Environmentalhttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/04/01/greenpeace-nintendo-stills-ranks-worst-environmental-issues#comment-207707
<p>The rules don't apply to Greenpeace, just like they don't apply to PETA.</p>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 16:17:10 +0000Austin_Lewiscomment 207707 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Greenpeace: Nintendo Stills Ranks Worst on Environmentalhttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/04/01/greenpeace-nintendo-stills-ranks-worst-environmental-issues#comment-207699
<p>Cause you know, the Greenpeace boat is a hydrogen fuel cell powered boat so they have no contribution to hurting the environment with CO2 emmissions.</p><p>Oh SNAP!!... its just a regular old boat with just as many emmissions as any other boat.</p><p>Here is an article on the hypocritical Greenpeace boat the &quot;<em>MV Esperanza&quot; </em>a Soviet-era ship that relies on diesel to power its engine: <a href="http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/mining-chief-blasts-hypocritical-greenpeace/2008/07/19/1216163216734.html" title="http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/mining-chief-blasts-hypocritical-greenpeace/2008/07/19/1216163216734.html">http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/mining-chief-blasts-hypo...</a></p>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 15:09:10 +0000axiomaticcomment 207699 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Greenpeace: Nintendo Stills Ranks Worst on Environmentalhttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/04/01/greenpeace-nintendo-stills-ranks-worst-environmental-issues#comment-207664
<p>Any organization that pays for a boat used to ram fishing vessels sounds like a terrorist organization to me. &nbsp;Of course, if someone were to ram MY&nbsp;sailboat, I'd probably board their vessel and kick the shit out of the captain.&nbsp; Nevermind that it's okay for Greenpeace to have a big-ass freighter that runs off of diesel, the rest of us should use sailboats, because we're less important.</p><p>Here's a quick tip on how to identify greenpeace being full of shit; they refuse to release any hard statistics on anything, instead spouting anti-corporate slogans. &nbsp;It's not even about 'helping the planet' anymore, its about being anti-capitalism.&nbsp; That's why one of the founders left.</p><p>Plus, global warming is bullshit. &nbsp;That's why they changed the name to climate change; it hedges their bets.&nbsp; The world gets warmer, they were right. &nbsp;The world gets colder, they were right.&nbsp; The whole thing is based on some of the flimsiest science and statistical analysis I have ever seen, and it's all about making certain groups rich while attempting to further kneecap real corporations. &nbsp;Which, in all fairness, they don't need; Obama's already trying his hardest to do that.</p>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 11:25:17 +0000Austin_Lewiscomment 207664 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Greenpeace: Nintendo Stills Ranks Worst on Environmentalhttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/04/01/greenpeace-nintendo-stills-ranks-worst-environmental-issues#comment-207654
<p>Plus it is not Nintendo's fault that the have had to bost production.</p><p>At least they are not dumping waste into the environment...</p><p>Perhaps we should need to look at the facts and not look too much into the sensationalism that fuels the debate.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 04:20:18 +0000TBoneTonycomment 207654 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Greenpeace: Nintendo Stills Ranks Worst on Environmentalhttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/04/01/greenpeace-nintendo-stills-ranks-worst-environmental-issues#comment-207653
<p>Nintendo is doing well at the moment, so Greenpeace has someone to attack.</p><p>It is because of things like those people is the reason why I don't bother with mainstreem news at all.</p><p>These people are only digging their own graves by trying to attack businesses who only just want to entertain people and the Greenpeace guys are also been attacking whale boats which does not do them any good even though they believe they are fighting for the right cause.</p><p>Kinda like a contradiction of a few other things that we gamers have known about for a long time.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 04:15:39 +0000TBoneTonycomment 207653 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Greenpeace: Nintendo Stills Ranks Worst on Environmentalhttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/04/01/greenpeace-nintendo-stills-ranks-worst-environmental-issues#comment-207645
<p>I understand what you're getting at, and you're right, that in many regards, one should consider the message before shooting the messenger. But, and this is a fairly large but, when the messenger has proven on many occassions to be deceptive in its methods and at other times outright wrong in its statements, one tends to shoot that particular messenger on sight.</p><p>I'd agree with you that mass consumerism is bad for the environment, but that's what the modern economy is based off of. You can't exactly blame a company for being sucessful, that's what it's intended to be, correct? Nintendo themselves have stated that they are working in reducing co2 emissions, but increased business has raised those emissions (in the year 2006, who knows about other years) We also don't know the rate of production compared to the co2 increase. It could've been that had Nintendo now had such a large increase in business it would've lowered its CO2 production signifigantly. We don't have the numbers at hand, so we don't really know. On the other hand, Greenpeace as usual goes out half-cocked and gives out reports like this without the full information.</p><p>As to your comments about gamepolitics, it still is a good idea. Yes there are several immature people on here who lash out against anyone who says anything bad about games, there are many on the other side who lash out against our hobby for seemingly no particular reason and they call themselves researchers, lawyers, and politicians. The latest study posted here on GP seems like it will be worth looking at, but several of the other &quot;research&quot; papers that have been published looking for correlation between video games and &quot;aggression&quot; have more holes than the ones I had to review as a TA back in high school. There are, and always will be, reactionaries on both sides of the fence, and the GP forum is not immune to them either. You just have to ignore them and look to the calmer voices of reason. Like Mark Shurtleff :)</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>P.S. Using immature doesn't make you a narc. It just means you're getting older. Welcome to the club.</p><p>P.S.S. You might want to look into some of the things that greenpeace has done. I wouldn't call the entire organization terrorists, but there are a few members that the label seems to fit.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I hate broccoli/ and think it totally sucks/ Why isn't it meat?</p>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 02:07:02 +0000The Hangd Mancomment 207645 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Greenpeace: Nintendo Stills Ranks Worst on Environmentalhttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/04/01/greenpeace-nintendo-stills-ranks-worst-environmental-issues#comment-207641
<p>Wow.</p><p>Although im no greenpeace fan boy I can't beleive how instantly dismissive everyone is about a fairly serious issue...... calling them terrorists? I must be missing something.<span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><br /></span></p><p>Despite how misleading these figures may be, at the end of the day mass consumerism IS bad for the environment, and as a conseuqence Nintendo's increasing unit sales are not good for the interests of the worlds population (apart from the console being fuck fun to play.) I love video games as much as the next person here, but we need to be self critical at times and recognise the braoder implications of our hobbie and ways to lessen any harmful side-effects.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I used to think the idea of game politics was a really good idea.... debate and discussion about the wider world around gamming, and ways to improve the hobbie as a whole. Instead it's begining to look like a conservative hive, for people so in love with their hobbie they can never even concede that MAYBE there are some bad things about it, and drill whoever suggests so in a largley immature way like&nbsp; this thread is turning out to.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>God, I can't believe I actually said immature........ turning into a narc.</p>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 01:17:03 +0000Im_Bluecomment 207641 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Greenpeace: Nintendo Stills Ranks Worst on ...http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/04/01/greenpeace-nintendo-stills-ranks-worst-environmental-issues#comment-207632
<p>Greenpeace and all other terrorist organizations can suck a dick.</p><p>Here are we -- and yonder yawns the universe.</p>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:31:07 +0000Conejocomment 207632 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Greenpeace: Nintendo Stills Ranks Worst on Environmentalhttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/04/01/greenpeace-nintendo-stills-ranks-worst-environmental-issues#comment-207629
<p>Greenpeace&nbsp;:&nbsp;&quot;Waaaah, you don't cave into our ridiculous demands. We rate you poorly!&quot;</p><p>Nintendo :&nbsp;Our console is the greenest one in existence. Go shaft yourself.</p><p>GP&nbsp;should really stop publishing articles from domestic terrorist organizations. (Oh, I used a buzzword!&nbsp;But it's true. They're just idealogical terrorists that don't believe in suicide bombings, no differant than the ones in the middle east.)</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I will not buy securom games. <a href="http://www.wolvenmoon.com/sharedfiles/message1.jpg" title="http://www.wolvenmoon.com/sharedfiles/message1.jpg">http://www.wolvenmoon.com/sharedfiles/message1.jpg</a> and <a href="http://www.wolvenmoon.com/sharedfiles/message2.jpg" title="http://www.wolvenmoon.com/sharedfiles/message2.jpg">http://www.wolvenmoon.com/sharedfiles/message2.jpg</a></p>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:21:35 +0000Wolvenmooncomment 207629 at http://www.gamepolitics.com