Citrate1007:HotWingConspiracy: The 4chan Psychiatrist: As a country, we're sick and tired of listening to the totalitarian bullshiat being spewed forth from idiots like Feinstein, Schumer, Bloomberg, et al.

We're sicker over gun massacres every few months.

In all fairness, untreated mental illness as a result from inadequate healthcare coverage and a society that still stigmatizes such illness is far more to blame that guns.

This is one of those laws that should be left up to cities and towns and counties. If you live in a rural area like me having a gun is useful and even if I was very unsafe with it chances are I won't shoot anyone. Densely populated cities need to make laws based on their population so if the people in those cities feel safer outlawing guns they should be allowed to.

The 4chan Psychiatrist:HotWingConspiracy: The 4chan Psychiatrist: As a country, we're sick and tired of listening to the totalitarian bullshiat being spewed forth from idiots like Feinstein, Schumer, Bloomberg, et al.

We're sicker over gun massacres every few months.

bigbadideasinaction: Lost Thought 00: This is the result of working from a "no restrictions ever, under any circumstances" position and then bargaining from there.

It's very simple. The NRA spent decades fighting for the right for untracked, unlicensed, untraceable and unrestricted guns to go into the hands of whoever wanted them.

Now, the line is "you can't restrict our guns, look at how many untracked, unlicensed, untraceable and unrestricted guns are in the hands of minorities God-knows-who!?".

Congrats America, you're dumb enough to follow the words of a group claiming to deal with a problem they themselves created.

All you guys fully support the TSA, and the Patriot Act, right?

I mean, gutting the Fourth Amendment is a small price to pay for the perceived safety that it would provide. After all, the blood of every dead American in 9/11 is smeared all over the hands of every single member of the ACLU.

Amish Tech Support:I have no problem with people owning guns. However the NRA has become a nee-jerk reactionary organization that uses fear and half truths to scare it's members into sending it checks.

"Remember Susie, humans are quite nimble but they have some major weak spots. For instance, if you get one in the femoral artery, then they can bleed out in under three minutes. Personally, I practice shooting them around the forehead or behind the ears - you know, in case I encounter a particularly violent one in those wild, disenfranchised neighborhoods."

If you really, genuinely want to know who has no interest in preserving anybody's rights in this debate, just listen for the use of the phrase "assault weapons." Pure and utter ignorance is the primary tool these people will use to further their agenda.

coeyagi:Fart_Machine: coeyagi: Fart_Machine: Turn the volume down from 11 guys. The guy was a nutbag. This is about as stupid as blaming the victims because they didn't have a shoot out in a dark crowded theater filled with tear gas.

And you have no problem with a society turning its head as it allows this nutbag to start a small war in Aurora if he wanted to?

6000 rounds of ammo. The Nazis (yes, Poe in under 10!) tried to conserve bullets, but not in America!

As much as I have disagreements with the NRA this is a case where neither more or less gun laws wouldn't have made a difference since this guy had no criminal record.

Yes, which is why maybe buying 6000 rounds of ammo itself should have raised questions.

I mean, if the Right Wingers think everyone should have voter IDs even though voter fraud is WAY less than 30,000 cases per year, why not have a little control over firearms which are used in 30,000 deaths per year?

Hey conservatives, just want to make sure I have your priorities right:

Sanctity of Fetus life > Sanctity of voting > Sanctity of human life

FYI: We have approximately 1000 rounds in our gun safe - all purchased legally.

Citrate1007:HotWingConspiracy: The 4chan Psychiatrist: As a country, we're sick and tired of listening to the totalitarian bullshiat being spewed forth from idiots like Feinstein, Schumer, Bloomberg, et al.

We're sicker over gun massacres every few months.

In all fairness, untreated mental illness as a result from inadequate healthcare coverage and a society that still stigmatizes such illness is far more to blame that guns.

When it comes to guns: We should not restrict anyone who wants a gun's rights to having a gun just because of the occasional psychopath who just coincidentally managed to wound or kill over a dozen people with a gun. Come on, we have this conversation every year when something like this happens with stunning regularity.

When it comes to Muslims: We should restrict everyone who is a Muslim's rights to religious expression and practice just because of the occasional psychopaths who just coincidentally happened to be Muslim when they killed several thousand people. Come on, we've had this conversation for over 11 years since that one incident happened.

The 4chan Psychiatrist:Citrate1007: HotWingConspiracy: The 4chan Psychiatrist: As a country, we're sick and tired of listening to the totalitarian bullshiat being spewed forth from idiots like Feinstein, Schumer, Bloomberg, et al.

We're sicker over gun massacres every few months.

In all fairness, untreated mental illness as a result from inadequate healthcare coverage and a society that still stigmatizes such illness is far more to blame that guns.

QFT

People who are crazy, don't think of themselves as crazy. They think they themselves are totally sane.

I mean, gutting the Fourth Amendment is a small price to pay for the perceived safety that it would provide. After all, the blood of every dead American in 9/11 is smeared all over the hands of every single member of the ACLU.

Scerpes:El Freak: Nobody is saying this. Nobody. It's rather hard to kill dozens of people at a time with a knife, ax, baseball bat, etc, and guns are easier than building a bomb or getting chemical weapons or whatever. I'm not anti-gun ownership, but to pretend that easy availability of guns don't make it easier for nutjobs to do shiat like this is stupid.

It's pretty easy to kill a dozen people with a car...not to mention all the pollution. It's time for at least a 15 day waiting period. We should also outlaw the Prius. They're silent and can sneak up on you.

When cars are designed specifically to kill, you will have a point.

Or, even better - maybe we should use guns for everyday activities - use one to drive nails, put a smartphone in the grip...then they'll have a use other than killing.

"As Massachusetts governor in 2004, Romney signed into law an assault weapons ban that was backed by gun owners and gun control advocates. The Massachusetts law banned the AR-15, one of the weapons that police say was used inside the Colorado theater on Friday."

Where one massacre has occurred in the past few decades, as opposed to...what's our number now?

We also have higher knife crime and a greater incidence of unarmed assault than Norway, statistically pretty much along the same line. Not sure how you're blaming a general trend of higher crime that may or may not involve guns on guns, but I guess idiots will be idiots.

Scerpes:So then I can buy whatever firearms I want in California, Chicago, DC or NYC? The left hasn't given up on gun control, even if it's been relegated to the backseat for the moment.

Ah yes. "The left isn't talking about gun control anymore because they are waiting to lull you into a false sense of security and then BLAMMO! Right when you least expect it, THAT'S when they will come to take away all your guns! Now please make that check payable to the NRA."

Headso:This is one of those laws that should be left up to cities and towns and counties. If you live in a rural area like me having a gun is useful and even if I was very unsafe with it chances are I won't shoot anyone. Densely populated cities need to make laws based on their population so if the people in those cities feel safer outlawing guns they should be allowed to.

This is where the Supreme Court's decision in the McDonald case failed. Historically, local jurisdictions had broad discretion to regulate firearms within their borders, and I think that's exactly what the militia clause of the Second Amendment was intended to recognize. There was no textual or historical basis for finding that the Second Amendment was properly subject to incorporation through the Fourteenth.

Seems to work quite well in the UK and other countries with strict gun-control laws.

Yes, but those are not 'Murka! They don't have free swinging giant penises and are God's chosen people of liberty and exceptionalism! We're too individualistic to be tied down by such tyranny! We'd rather keep getting killed en masse!