EMERGENCY! If you ever read one political thread, this has to be the one. Read NOW!

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Well after specifically saying that he wouldnt, Warbama is cracking down on medical marijuana in California. As much as this might piss of the stoners(and me), there is a bigger issue. This guy breaks every promise. The only one he held was catching Osama, and lets be honest, that was the military. They would have caught him by now even if idiot Bush had a third term.

It seems like what ever president we elect that belongs to either political party is just going to kiss the asses of the people they work for. they wont stand up for the people. They wont stand up for morales. They wont stand up for anything. Lets face it, kiss asses rise to power and thats what's ruining our country.

Say what you whant about Ron Paul, we need to get that guy elected. He seems like the only perso who will stand up for anything. Start the movement! Tell your friends! If you have Facebook or Twitter then spread the word! Ron Paul 2012!

As far as I know the attorney general has said the federal government would not prosecute individuals or peruse them as long as they are abiding by their states local laws regarding the use of medicinal marijuana

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance." - Socrates

He's cracking down on the dispensaries, which is still something that was specifically said wasnt going to happen. and since dispensary wont sere you without a card anyway, this is still basically him sticking it to patients.

And more power to ya, but this is so much bigger than wether or not you support him cracking down on dispinseries. I dont expect to change your mind, but please go back to my OP, read each sentence and consider the details. This is so much larger than wether your a weed fan or not.

Nothing would change under him. Hell, we have a president that admitted he smoked weed and look what happens. I can easily say now that I can smoke weed and be president because I have proof. Paul would walk into office and walk out, without changing anything to do with marijuana.

He's cracking down on the dispensaries, which is still something that was specifically said wasnt going to happen. and since dispensary wont sere you without a card anyway, this is still basically him sticking it to patients.

Nothing would change under him. Hell, we have a president that admitted he smoked weed and look what happens. I can easily say now that I can smoke weed and be president because I have proof. Paul would walk into office and walk out, without changing anything to do with marijuana.

Like I said though man, its in the details. This is so much bigger than a marijuana issue.

Nothing would change under him. Hell, we have a president that admitted he smoked weed and look what happens. I can easily say now that I can smoke weed and be president because I have proof. Paul would walk into office and walk out, without changing anything to do with marijuana.

against marijuana dealers and suppliers who use California’s 15-year-old medical marijuana law as legal cover for running sophisticated drug trafficking ventures in plain sight...... Not all of the thousands of storefront pot dispensaries thought to be operating in the state are being targeted in the crackdown

It has always been said they are fine as long as they abide by the states laws. The targets of the crackdown were not operating in compliance with their state laws. Money laundering and selling drugs are still illegal. The medicinal marijuana law was not intended for people to get high for fun but to provide treatment for the ill. Now if you think marijuana should be sold for recreational purposes than that is a whole other conversation but as of now it is still illegal and the law is the law. Now dont get me wrong, I am pro cannibus and think it should be legalized but the fact is it isnt. Why fault someone for enforcing the laws?

Furthermore you claims to "vote GOP screw the dems" again is unfounded. In the same article you posted it states these crackdown actions are being criticized by democrats as wrong.

lastly I have a question for you... You say Screw Obama because of this recent event and in the same post also say he didn't kill Osama the military did. How does he not get credit for killing Osama but is to blame for the actions of the attorney generals? Obama didn't shut down any smoke shops did he? But yet you blame him because it was under his command right? Well while Obama might not have personally killed Osama but it was under his command was it not? I am pretty sure as commander and chief of the military the death of Osama was under his orders. So how is it he gets the blame for something he influenced but gets no credit for something he ordered?

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance." - Socrates

I know he supports the legalization and wants to end the War on Drugs, but there is more than one deciding factor on those issues. You got not just Congress to really go through with those thing, Democrats will stand against the end of War on Drugs while Republicans will stand firm against legalization of marijuana, but also the states. Numerous lawsuits will be filled by states run by majority Republicans, take Florida. And numerous local governments will have more financial burden on them cracking down on meth and other drugs operations. If there is one thing I have found about campaign promises and positions, don't put much trust in them.

Yep. I've been told by both sides that voting for ____ or ______ is voting for the lesser of the two evils. First off, you're acknowledging your candidate isn't really that good in the first place. And second, why does my choice have to between that? Why can't I vote for a candidate that I can put my trust in at least? Guess this what true democracy looks like...

Yep. I've been told by both sides that voting for ____ or ______ is voting for the lesser of the two evils. First off, you're acknowledging your candidate isn't really that good in the first place. And second, why does my choice have to between that? Why can't I vote for a candidate that I can put my trust in at least? Guess this what true democracy looks like...

Its really not voting for the lesser of 2 evils, they are the same evil in regards to Democrats and Republicans (most of them, and not referring to the voters).

They can create a democracy tomorrow in China. They split the communist party into China Red, and China Blue. Everybody votes the same crooks back in power and they have an illusion of competition in a democratic system, when really they are the same thing.

The ways governments survive long-term is to create competition within itself (aka duopoly.) Its kind of like choosing between Coke and Pepsi.

It has always been said they are fine as long as they abide by the states laws. The targets of the crackdown were not operating in compliance with their state laws. Money laundering and selling drugs are still illegal. The medicinal marijuana law was not intended for people to get high for fun but to provide treatment for the ill. Now if you think marijuana should be sold for recreational purposes than that is a whole other conversation but as of now it is still illegal and the law is the law. Now dont get me wrong, I am pro cannibus and think it should be legalized but the fact is it isnt. Why fault someone for enforcing the laws?

Furthermore you claims to "vote GOP screw the dems" again is unfounded. In the same article you posted it states these crackdown actions are being criticized by democrats as wrong.

lastly I have a question for you... You say Screw Obama because of this recent event and in the same post also say he didn't kill Osama the military did. How does he not get credit for killing Osama but is to blame for the actions of the attorney generals? Obama didn't shut down any smoke shops did he? But yet you blame him because it was under his command right? Well while Obama might not have personally killed Osama but it was under his command was it not? I am pretty sure as commander and chief of the military the death of Osama was under his orders. So how is it he gets the blame for something he influenced but gets no credit for something he ordered?

Well, I can agree on the money laundering part. If their money laundering then yes, they should be penalized. Haveing said that, there is still something I dont understand. Are some of these places handing out weed to people without weed cards? If not, then I really dont think he should be stepping in to make it harder for patients to get their stuff. Is it really his buisiness to narrow the group of people who can get medicine? It sounds (correct me if Im wrong) like they whant people who are unhealthy to get this stuff. If a doctor can perscribe this stuff to someone with some minor complaint, why is it the governments buisiness tocome in and say "Your not sick enough". Personally, I get depressed because my friends are drunks and I dont like to drink. I wish I lived in a state that could perscribe me something for that depression. Maby Id have the motivation to go out more.

And I didnt say screw the democrats. I said screw both of the big dogs. I convinced that when either of those parties get elected, their conformist personalities will just give in to big pharma and big everything else, and the people suffer.

Obama: drastically loseing approval
Bush: terrible president
Clinton: really whanted to trust him. However many people, myself included, beleave he got us involved in a war we shouldnt have been in to destract from the oral sex scandal.

Elect a conformist, and you get a president who cant handle pressure well.

Yep. I've been told by both sides that voting for ____ or ______ is voting for the lesser of the two evils. First off, you're acknowledging your candidate isn't really that good in the first place. And second, why does my choice have to between that? Why can't I vote for a candidate that I can put my trust in at least? Guess this what true democracy looks like...

This actually backs up my belief that a Libertarian should be given a chance.

This actually backs up my belief that a Libertarian should be given a chance.

I don't know, the party didn't really do well of a job picking a nominee in 2008. Look at Barr, pretty much flipped on everything he wants supported or opposed. Voted for the Patriot Act, not regrets it. Voted for the Defense of Marriage Act, no regrets that. Supported the War on Drugs and opposed Medical Marijuana, now the opposite on that. There is a time where I can see where you coming from changing opinion on one or two things, but hell that man did a lot of changing.

The basic morals of following through and not doing that which you said you wouldnt.

Originally Posted by Grumpy

I don't know, the party didn't really do well of a job picking a nominee in 2008. Look at Barr, pretty much flipped on everything he wants supported or opposed. Voted for the Patriot Act, not regrets it. Voted for the Defense of Marriage Act, no regrets that. Supported the War on Drugs and opposed Medical Marijuana, now the opposite on that. There is a time where I can see where you coming from changing opinion on one or two things, but hell that man did a lot of changing.

Good luck.
Give me a proven competent and capable businessman to run the business of running our country.

Well weve had good presidents before. Id like to think it could happen again.

Originally Posted by HondaV65

Having Ron Paul as president wouldn't do a damn thing for us.

People - even here ... in the 21st Century - when the Constitution is NO NEW THING (been around awhile) ... though some still think we elect a dictator as President.

If Ron Paul were President he'd be a lonely one - because neither party in Congress would listen to him. And - without Congress ... the President is about as useful as nipples on men.

That actually is a good point, but from what I hear, they already debate until nothing gets done. Maby a guy who just acted as a midiator and not loyal to either side is what we need. Could end terribly, but its worth a shot at this point.

Well weve had good presidents before. Id like to think it could happen again.

That actually is a good point, but from what I hear, they already debate until nothing gets done. Maby a guy who just acted as a midiator and not loyal to either side is what we need. Could end terribly, but its worth a shot at this point.

Haha never will happen. Take Charlie Crist down here in Good 'Ole Florida. Him shaking the Obama's hand was pretty much like the touch of death. Republican Party pretty much kicked him out of the party after that. Reason why we got Marco Rubio over Charlie Crist for Senator. And even the people who once was affiliated with him and are running for office are having trouble, no matter how much they try to distant their selves from Crist.

It's like watching two groups of girls really. You talk with the other side, you're done and no excuses about it.

But we already have that drama with the two big parties. The other party views them as the enemy and gets in the way. Maby someone of neither party woud be viewed as less of an enemy. I personally think its worth a shot, because ive given up hope on the big two.

Well after specifically saying that he wouldnt, Warbama is cracking down on medical marijuana in California. As much as this might piss of the stoners(and me), there is a bigger issue. This guy breaks every promise. The only one he held was catching Osama, and lets be honest, that was the military. They would have caught him by now even if idiot Bush had a third term.

It seems like what ever president we elect that belongs to either political party is just going to kiss the asses of the people they work for. they wont stand up for the people. They wont stand up for morales. They wont stand up for anything. Lets face it, kiss asses rise to power and thats what's ruining our country.

Say what you whant about Ron Paul, we need to get that guy elected. He seems like the only perso who will stand up for anything. Start the movement! Tell your friends! If you have Facebook or Twitter then spread the word! Ron Paul 2012!

Whoa buddy let's chill out a little bit huh?

First. A lot of people here like Ron Paul, but we don't need you chanting like a lunatic.

2nd. The dispensaries targeted by the Feds were only those that violated state and federal law. The feds were targeting the criminally organized dispensaries (and dont you dare say those dont exist) and used lame laws like they were operating too close to parks or schools, etc. Those same laws exist for liquor shops in some states. Do i have a problem with smart crackdowns on criminal organizations breaking both state and fed law? NOPE! Good job feds.

The IRS has been sending out insane bills to these dispensaries i.e. 1 million dollar fines because according to California state law all dispensaries are non-profits but these companies are making millions in profit so the govt is taking their cut. hey, times are hard.

Thanks for reading from your more than likely republican leaning news sources about what is sooooo completely not important compared to the American Jobs Act. Don't let the shiny things distract you primate.

Instead of worrying about a guy that will never get the seat, I suggest you use your energy to promote the AJA and get the economy moving again huh? After all the election isnt for quite some time.

Flatter me, and I may not believe you. Criticize me, and I may not like you. Ignore me, and I may not forgive you. Encourage me, and I will not forget you.

He's cracking down on the dispensaries, which is still something that was specifically said wasnt going to happen. and since dispensary wont sere you without a card anyway, this is still basically him sticking it to patients.

Honestly, whoever you guys vote for, just dont vote for Obama. His biggest accomplishment was takeing credit for something our military did.

Honestly whoever you vote for, it doesn't matter if he ran his state into the dirt, is shes crazy, if they just want the glamour, if he or she is disinterested...just dont vote for obama.

according to you

bachman > obama
perry > obama
santorum > obama

you are a fool.

Flatter me, and I may not believe you. Criticize me, and I may not like you. Ignore me, and I may not forgive you. Encourage me, and I will not forget you.