I compared the prices and the integrations of the difference cloud storage services. I really enjoy search for text inside files and seems like just google drive supports this.

It sounds like you should give Google Drive a try and see how you like it. If you run out of free space, it’s $20/year, which is less than iCloud Drive and Dropbox, for 100 GB.

EagleFiler1337:

I think this is one reason why Someone in this forum (including me) looking forward to an EagleFiler iOS App with a lot of Cloud Services included and search option etc

Understood.

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Fri, 05 Jun 2020 18:25:22 +0000forum.c-command.com-post-29550Thoughts about Online Storage - What do you use?Thank you for the quick answer. Atm I have all my documents. Like 5-10 years of bills, taxes paper and other stuff in some folders. At the moment I have a bit more time and want to invest this to go full digital with all my paper work. Atm I can’t tell
You how much storage I need but min >50GB would be nice I think.

I compared the prices and the integrations of the difference cloud storage services. I really enjoy search for text inside files and seems like just google drive supports this. Mega and Amazon don’t Supports this Feature. Kind of sad

For sure I can start to scan all my paper and choose a cloud storage later, this is not an showstopper for me but I want to have access to this even when I am at my phone. I think this is one reason why Someone in this forum (including me) looking forward to an EagleFiler iOS App with a lot of Cloud Services included and search option etc

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Fri, 05 Jun 2020 18:08:25 +0000forum.c-command.com-post-29549Thoughts about Online Storage - What do you use?Google Drive is fine if you don’t need support for creation dates or colored labels.

I’ve not tested with Mega or heard of anyone using it.

How much storage do you need?

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Fri, 05 Jun 2020 17:29:46 +0000forum.c-command.com-post-29548Thoughts about Online Storage - What do you use?I have one additional question. What do you think about Mega as an online storage? Does it work well with EagleFiler and does it support File Tags etc? ]]>https://forum.c-command.com/t/thoughts-about-online-storage-what-do-you-use/12864/2
Fri, 05 Jun 2020 17:21:57 +0000forum.c-command.com-post-29547Thoughts about Online Storage - What do you use?A wonderful good evening dear community. I have been working my way through the product description of EagleFiler over the last few days and now I have some questions about CloudStorage.

Which service do you use? There is a nice overview here which services are supported and which services have certain restrictions, but I am not sure which service is best for me.Overview from EagleFiler

Dropbox is a bit too expensive for me. I also find the price of Apple’s own online storage massively overdone.

For me, Amazon Drive and Google Drive would be possible.

Unfortunately the Amazon Drive app on the mobile phone is everything but nice. I think it’s sad that Amazon doesn’t invest in a useful user experience anymore. A nice user interface looks different.

For me it is important that I can search data on my mobile phone and that I have fully indexed files. This does not seem to work that well with Dropbox. With Google Drive, however, the whole thing works. But according to the documentation no metadata should be taken over.

Which online storage did you use? I want to access my data via my Mac and via my iPhone.

Thanks a lot for your help and have a nice day.

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Fri, 05 Jun 2020 16:21:39 +0000forum.c-command.com-post-29546Archiving "on my mac" mailboxes in foldersGreat, thanks for the follow-up. Yes, if an import of a certain mailbox doesn’t complete, EagleFiler will not show it (or store it) at all. So anything that you see should be a complete import. If you import the exact same mailbox that had already finished importing, it will see it as a duplicate and skip it. ]]>https://forum.c-command.com/t/archiving-on-my-mac-mailboxes-in-folders/12842/7
Fri, 05 Jun 2020 00:22:43 +0000forum.c-command.com-post-29542Archiving "on my mac" mailboxes in foldersFor unknown reasons, it now works! Before acting on of your advice, I thought I’d look again at what I had gotten when I force-quit, and it was actually quite a lot of stuff, though less than a third of what I’d tried to capture, and this time I could open the mailboxes and see mail! So I thought I’d try adding a relatively small amount to what was already there, and I “captured” one more mailbox that should have downloaded before, and it worked quickly. Then in increments I captured everything else that was missing, and watched EF rebuild and index the mailboxes. And now I have what seem to be full versions of all the mailboxes I want in there, even ones whose import looked stalled at an early stage in the Activities window of the screen shot I posted here, and which I did not re-import! So thanks, I think I’m set! ]]>https://forum.c-command.com/t/archiving-on-my-mac-mailboxes-in-folders/12842/6
Thu, 04 Jun 2020 22:44:55 +0000forum.c-command.com-post-29541ToothFairy 2.6.2So glad to see this handy utility still getting improvements! ]]>https://forum.c-command.com/t/toothfairy-2-6-2/12858/2
Wed, 03 Jun 2020 03:28:47 +0000forum.c-command.com-post-29538Outlook - Filter Mailboxes disappearsThank you

I thought the SpamSieve rules were supposed to go at the very top of the filter list, so they were processed first. I can move my “Spam Returns” higher up, but I’d also appreciate it if I could get some background on the reasoning for having SpamSieve first and why this would be different?

Yes, the instructions say to put the SpamSieve rule at the top. The exception, as discussed in Processing Messages Before SpamSieve, is rules that are themselves deleting messages or identifying them as spam. Putting those at the top prevents SpamSieve from examining messages that it doesn’t make sense for it to try to filter, and this also relieves you of the responsibility of correcting any mistakes which might be hard to detect given that the other rule had moved the messages.

Tango:

I tried replacing “Every Message” in the first rule to address only ones not in my recipient list.

The conditions should be the same for all the SpamSieve […] rules or you will get unexpected behavior.

Tango:

I can post the images of my rules, in case I mis-copied them, if that could help?

Let’s see how the action changes work first.

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Tue, 02 Jun 2020 23:44:54 +0000forum.c-command.com-post-29536Filters Not Working Properly on Apple MailI get the reason for not allowing newcomers to post multiple pictures. I’ve been on forums before where, suddenly, a post shows up with a dozen gross pictures because someone is trolling or spamming. Not complaining, I get it. If I had more time, this afternoon, I would have tried messaging an admin to get help on that issue.

I thought the SpamSieve rules were supposed to go at the very top of the filter list, so they were processed first. I can move my “Spam Returns” higher up, but I’d also appreciate it if I could get some background on the reasoning for having SpamSieve first and why this would be different? Is that possible or is it a real long explanation.

I can try the “Move Message” as the only rule.

After I posted this, I had an odd experience. I tried replacing “Every Message” in the first rule to address only ones not in my recipient list. Checked later, and spam was in the Junk folder, BUT I was still getting blue and gray in my Spam folder. Just weird.

I can post the images of my rules, in case I mis-copied them, if that could help?

Note that the “Spam Returns” filter is my own, and not from SpamSieve. I set that up because I still get emails bounced back to my email from when I dealt with an issue with someone using my email as a "From: " in spam.

That rule should probably be above the SpamSieve rules.

Tango:

But now all spam goes into Spam and stays and stays marked as unread. (I’m not sure if this is a new issue with Apple Mail, since I’m finding other filters seem to perform one action and not do the others in that step. I do NOT mean that it stops at the end of a particular filter because I check “Stop Evaluating Rules.” I mean it stops in the middle of a rule, right after Step 1 and not performing the other steps.)

Your SpamSieve rules look OK as described, so I’m not sure why you’re seeing this behavior (that other users apparently aren’t). Does it help if you remove the other rule actions so that the color rules only say Move Message?

Tango:

Here’s my rules for the first Spamsieve filter (sorry, forum only lets me post one image!)

Adjusted the icons so that if you have a keyboard next to a trackpad, they line up.

The offset disconnected AirPods icon no longer looks uncentered.

Added Czech and Dutch localizations.

Fixed a bug where the Preferences window could be inappropriately shown at launch due to an interaction between macOS state restoration and the login item.

Tried to fix a crash due to a macOS bug after adding a new Bluetooth device.

ToothFairy 2.6.2 works with macOS 10.11 through 10.15 and requires a Bluetooth device. For information about previous releases of ToothFairy, please see the version history.

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Tue, 02 Jun 2020 20:09:13 +0000forum.c-command.com-post-29533Filters Not Working Properly on Apple MailI’ve been using SpamSieve for a few years, but I’m dealing with an issue now that is getting frustrating. I can’t remember how long it’s been this way, so I can’t pin down what change would have impacted SpamSieve. Here’s my Rules window, or part of it, below:

Note that the “Spam Returns” filter is my own, and not from SpamSieve. I set that up because I still get emails bounced back to my email from when I dealt with an issue with someone using my email as a "From: " in spam.

Here’s what’s happening: ALL my filtered spam email is going into my Spam box, and NONE of it is going into Junk. I started with all my filtered spam going into Spam, until I could check things over and verify it was doing a good job. Then I started moving the highest spam count categories into Junk. Over time, as I was sure the next level was working and not picking up false positives, I’d change the next lower category to dump it’s results in Junk.

As of now, only the last one, Yellow, is supposed to deposit spam into my Spam folder. The rest is supposed to dump it in Junk.

Seeing as I get up to 500-1,000 pieces of spam in a day (I am NOT exaggerating!), this is critical to me to be able to dump as much spam directly into Junk AND mark it as read as I can.

But now all spam goes into Spam and stays and stays marked as unread. (I’m not sure if this is a new issue with Apple Mail, since I’m finding other filters seem to perform one action and not do the others in that step. I do NOT mean that it stops at the end of a particular filter because I check “Stop Evaluating Rules.” I mean it stops in the middle of a rule, right after Step 1 and not performing the other steps.)

Here’s my rules for the first Spamsieve filter (sorry, forum only lets me post one image!):
If any of Every Message Move Message to mailbox: Spam

This is the SpamSieve [Score] filter:
If any of Every Message Move Message to mailbox: Spam

And for the SpamSieve [Blue] filter:
If any of Every Message Move Message to mailbox: Junk
Mark as Read
Mark as Flagged Gray

Note that the Gray, Purple, Red, and Orange filters are the same, other than the flag they are to use. (And, yes, these filters are completely finished - the emails are flagged as they should be.)

My SpamSieve [Yellow] filter:
If any of Every Message Move Message to mailbox: Spam
Mark as Read
Mark as Flagged Orange

And my Spamsieve [Spam] filter:
If any of Every Message Move Message to mailbox: Spam
Mark as Read

It looks to me like it should dump everything but the Yellow rated spam into Junk, but it’s dumping it all into Spam and leaving it marked unread, so I end up, in a few days, with thousands of emails in that folder.

I have checked the Show Script Menu preference and it is now working. Don’t know why it suddenly stopped. You say it could be something in the OS?

Yes, sometimes the preferences doesn’t get saved, or it gets reset somehow. Please let me know if that happens again.

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Tue, 02 Jun 2020 12:56:43 +0000forum.c-command.com-post-29529Add a trash and junk folderYes, you can create a Trash or Junk mailbox in Apple Mail and then go to Preferences ‣ Accounts ‣ Mailbox Behaviors to designate those mailboxes as the special Trash and Junk mailboxes.

(It doesn’t matter to SpamSieve whether you have such mailboxes or not.)

Many thanks for your prompt reply. Yes, the problem was the script editor preferences, where the Show script menu in menu bar was unchecked.

SpamSieve and Outlook filter Mailboxes are set to start at login, and they do, and show up in the Dock. The only problem was the Menu bar. I have checked the Show Script Menu preference and it is now working. Don’t know why it suddenly stopped. You say it could be something in the OS?

Best regards,

Chaim Mehlman

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Tue, 02 Jun 2020 01:24:17 +0000forum.c-command.com-post-29526Add a trash and junk folderI have four accounts running SpamSieve and one of them, an Outlook account does not have a Trash or a Junk folder.
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Tue, 02 Jun 2020 00:11:29 +0000forum.c-command.com-post-29525Archiving "on my mac" mailboxes in folders

paul-bklyn:

I can’t sample in Activity Monitor because Sample Process is grayed out.

You need to select EagleFiler in the list before you can Sample Process.

paul-bklyn:

In Activity Monitor’s list EagleFiler is using 0% of CPU and shows up red, not responding.

I’ve seen a few users run into a threading deadlock that can cause that. It may help (after you restart EagleFiler) to click this link to reduce the number of threads that EagleFiler uses when importing.

paul-bklyn:

Could it be doing its thing and I’m trying to make it do too much too soon?

No, if it’s doing it’s thing the app would be responding.

paul-bklyn:

Maybe it’s significant that one of the nine mailboxes that did show up in the EagleFiler window (out of a total of 42 that were in the two folders I selected) has a little pencil icon next to the blue dot. Yesterday several had that pencil.

That icon means there’s a note, which you can view in the Info window. Typically, EagleFiler will add a note during import to let you know of any duplicates that it removed.

paul-bklyn:

And I’m thinking that the progress bars may actually have stopped in the same places for the same mailboxes as yesterday. So I’m wondering if there might be one or more messages with corruption that is stopping EagleFiler.

It is possible that a damaged file could cause the app to hang if the file system gets stuck reading it. A sample would let us see whether that’s what’s happening here.

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Mon, 01 Jun 2020 23:40:56 +0000forum.c-command.com-post-29524EagleFiler iOS appHopefully there will be some news here soon. A standalone app would definitely make EagleFiler even more attractive. ]]>https://forum.c-command.com/t/eaglefiler-ios-app/11723/5
Mon, 01 Jun 2020 23:34:36 +0000forum.c-command.com-post-29522Archiving "on my mac" mailboxes in foldersI wanted to edit the above post but was too late. One thing I see that I hadn’t noticed yesterday is that in the Activities window, where the top two items are import-folder icons, the second one representing the one folder some of whose mailboxes showed up in the Records window, under that second icon it says “89,403 of 102,528” and “About 10 seconds.” And that isn’t changing. And I’m thinking that the progress bars may actually have stopped in the same places for the same mailboxes as yesterday. So I’m wondering if there might be one or more messages with corruption that is stopping EagleFiler. (It didn’t stop Mail from working, though). ]]>https://forum.c-command.com/t/archiving-on-my-mac-mailboxes-in-folders/12842/4
Mon, 01 Jun 2020 21:54:46 +0000forum.c-command.com-post-29521Archiving "on my mac" mailboxes in foldersWhen I woke my computer up in the morning it was just like the evening before, still with the spinning spokes on the lower left corner of the EagleFiler window saying “Importing Files,” and it showed no more progress as time went on. I forget the reason it gave for refusing to quit but I Force-quit, deleted the new library and tried again.

And now it’s the same exact thing, though the progress bars aren’t in the same places. I can’t sample in Activity Monitor because Sample Process is grayed out. In Activity Monitor’s list EagleFiler is using 0% of CPU and shows up red, not responding. EagleFiler doesn’t come to the front when selected in the Dock, but it does if I can find one of its windows to click. Even then, it has the spinning beach ball and won’t do anything I ask it to, including cancel any of the activities in the Activity window. Could it be doing its thing and I’m trying to make it do too much too soon?

I rebuilt all of the mailboxes before redoing it today, thinking there may have been some trouble there. So now there shouldn’t be that. Maybe it’s significant that one of the nine mailboxes that did show up in the EagleFiler window (out of a total of 42 that were in the two folders I selected) has a little pencil icon next to the blue dot. Yesterday several had that pencil.

It is working except that an icon for Outlook - FIlter mailboxes is supposed to appear in the menu bar, but it keeps disappearing.

Outlook Filter Mailboxes is supposed to appear in the Dock, like this:

As discussed in the instructions, you can set it to open at login. Then it should always be there unless you quit it.

WideScreenWiz:

So does the option in Outlook that lets you “Train as Spam, Train as Good” etc, which is one of the indispensable features of this software. I can’t see any way of restoring it. First time it happened I had to reinstall everything, then it started working again, but now it has spontaneously disappeared again.

The training commands are in the macOS Script menu:

Is the problem that you didn’t see the menu or that you didn’t see the commands in it?

The Script menu can be enabled in the preferences for the Script Editor app. This is a system preference, not anything to do with SpamSieve, so reinstalling SpamSieve won’t affect this. If you find that macOS is forgetting the Show Script menu in menu bar preference, please let me know. There may be a file permissions problem or something on your Mac that needs to be fixed.

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Mon, 01 Jun 2020 14:16:43 +0000forum.c-command.com-post-29516Outlook - Filter Mailboxes disappearsI’m using SpamSieve with Outlook for Mac, (Microsoft 365). It is working except that an icon for Outlook - FIlter mailboxes is supposed to appear in the menu bar, but it keeps disappearing. So does the option in Outlook that lets you “Train as Spam, Train as Good” etc, which is one of the indispensable features of this software. I can’t see any way of restoring it. First time it happened I had to reinstall everything, then it started working again, but now it has spontaneously disappeared again. I have not made any changes. This is incredibly frustrating and if it’s not solved I will be seeking other solutions. ]]>https://forum.c-command.com/t/outlook-filter-mailboxes-disappears/12847/1
Mon, 01 Jun 2020 07:15:30 +0000forum.c-command.com-post-29514Archiving "on my mac" mailboxes in foldersIf you are trying to import the complete mailboxes (and their submailboxes), it’s important not to select any messages in Mail. Otherwise, EagleFiler will only import the messages that you had selected. That may be why the ones that completed are smaller than you expected.

I don’t see anything obviously wrong in the screenshot, except that you say it got stuck without the progress advancing. If that’s still the case, please use Activity Monitor to record a sample.

If you run out of disk space, EagleFiler will report that as an error and abort the import.

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Sun, 31 May 2020 23:50:08 +0000forum.c-command.com-post-29510Archiving "on my mac" mailboxes in foldersI have a lot of emails in Mac Mail that were originally Eudora emails, converted to Mac format and now they are in nested folders in the “On my Mac” sidebar of Mail. I want to put all of those emails in a new library, and either I’ve been doing it wrong, or it hasn’t been working, or I’m stopping it before it’s done. Perhaps this screen shot tells the story? In Mail I selected the Older Ins and older Outs folders, then pressed F-1 to capture it to a new library. Pretty quickly it reached the state shown in the screen shot,

and Eaglefiler’s Activity window hasn’t advanced at all in over an hour. When I look in Finder at the new library, the individual mailboxes that have shown up in it (about half of the mailboxes in the “Older Ins” folder are there) are small files like 24 MB, and nothing like the big collections of emails that they are. An “importing files” wheel at the bottom of the Eaglefiler window is still spinning, but there is no sign of anything happening.

If I didn’t have enough space in my computer to hold all of this, would Eaglefiler tell me? I’m going to have to sleep the computer for the night, and see what it looks like tomorrow.

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Sun, 31 May 2020 22:27:48 +0000forum.c-command.com-post-29508Can I select an email as spam?Thanks for sending the diagnostic report. It appears that MailMate has not asked SpamSieve to filter any messages since April. Messages that SpamSieve has examined will have a value in the SpamSieve Score column in MailMate. So the problem has nothing to do with SpamSieve’s training or blocklist. Could you please check the MailMate setup? ]]>https://forum.c-command.com/t/can-i-select-an-email-as-spam/12838/3
Sun, 31 May 2020 14:48:44 +0000forum.c-command.com-post-29506Can I select an email as spam?

PhilipD:

What I’d like to be able to do is highlight or click on a spam email, mark it as spam to be filtered out and thus not receive any more mails from that sender or organisation landing in my inbox.

Since SpamSieve automatically learns recognize spam, it should be as simple as clicking on the spam message in your inbox and training the message as spam (i.e. clicking Move to Junk if you’re using MailMate). Over time it will learn that that organization always sends you spam.

Or, if you want, you could create a blocklist rule to instantly make sure that messages from that company are always treated as spam. This is described in Blocklisting Domains and Countries.

PhilipD:

Even with SS my mailbox gets continuous spam and a junk mail folder full of rubbish.