Japan's likely next prime minister, Shinzo Abe, who is leading in opinion polls ahead of an election on December 16 and who made his name as a North Korea hawk, called on the United Nations to adopt a resolution "strongly criticizing" Pyongyang.

/Yes, a strongly worded letter from the UN should turn things right around. Thanks mate.

So how many years til North Korea or Iran have a nuclear weapon capable of hitting the continental US? One of these articles was saying Iran was several years away at least, probably closer to a decade, from actually having a working nuke.

Pretty scary, but from the fear mongering earlier this year you'd think these people were just days from having a nuke.

Bit'O'Gristle:Japan's likely next prime minister, Shinzo Abe, who is leading in opinion polls ahead of an election on December 16 and who made his name as a North Korea hawk, called on the United Nations to adopt a resolution "strongly criticizing" Pyongyang.

/Yes, a strongly worded letter from the UN should turn things right around. Thanks mate.

Interestingly, this could be the catalyst for Japan changing their pacifist constitution to rebuild their military. That and the increasing Chinese aggression surrounding tiny rocks in the ocean.

Hell, even the Chinese are angry at the North Koreans. There are rumours that the starvation and economic ruin in the DPRK is much, much worse than anyone suspects- that even the army is stealing food because the soldiers are going hungry. This could be the straw that breaks support for them.

"The rocket, which North Korea says was designed to put a weather satellite into orbit, has been labeled by the United States, South Korea and Japan as a test of technology that could one day deliver a nuclear warhead capable of hitting targets as far as the continental the United States."

I don't see why the "international community" is getting so bothered by this. North Korea might not be the most responsible of nations, but they're still a sovereign nation. They can still launch their own damn sats if they want.

D_Evans45:So how many years til North Korea or Iran have a nuclear weapon capable of hitting the continental US? One of these articles was saying Iran was several years away at least, probably closer to a decade, from actually having a working nuke.

Pretty scary, but from the fear mongering earlier this year you'd think these people were just days from having a nuke.

Imagine how scary it must be for them to know that we can already do this. We can attack them from anywhere in the world at any time we want and there is nothing they can do about it.

Ego edo infantia cattus:"The rocket, which North Korea says was designed to put a weather satellite into orbit, has been labeled by the United States, South Korea and Japan as a test of technology that could one day deliver a nuclear warhead capable of hitting targets as far as the continental the United States."

D_Evans45:So how many years til North Korea or Iran have a nuclear weapon capable of hitting the continental US? One of these articles was saying Iran was several years away at least, probably closer to a decade, from actually having a working nuke.

Pretty scary, but from the fear mongering earlier this year you'd think these people were just days from having a nuke.

If the DPRK manages to make a test-nuke, it'll consume every ounce of fissile resources they can muster for more than a decade. They've got less wealth than your mom.

D_Evans45:So how many years til North Korea or Iran have a nuclear weapon capable of hitting the continental US? One of these articles was saying Iran was several years away at least, probably closer to a decade, from actually having a working nuke.

Pretty scary, but from the fear mongering earlier this year you'd think these people were just days from having a nuke.

Well, ICBM's aren't easy to make. Launching anything into orbit is hard enough, but to get a nuke on a target the size of a city you basically need a spacecraft that can survive reentry. First it is launched into space, then its boosted around the earth to its individual target and then reenters like any spacecraft to fall without power onto a target and explode of course.

US sort of went a bit extreme in the 80's and came up with the Peacekeeper missile that could have up to 10 warheads.

This. When people say that these weapons can be built using 1960's tech, they're fundamentally misunderstanding the huge technical difficulties inherent in developing these weapons and the vast resources and infrastructure it takes to actually build them.

/it's more honest to say that the two biggest, wealthiest countries on Earth were able to develop them in the 1960's, but only by utilizing the best minds in the world in physics and engineering and throwing huge amounts of resources behind their development.

Christ, how much does this shiat cost? Where do they get the cash for the fuel and oxidizers? Where do they get the uranium? How do they pay for the centrifuges? How does a country full of starving brainwashed retards produce the scientists capable of doing this shiat?

bbfreak:D_Evans45: So how many years til North Korea or Iran have a nuclear weapon capable of hitting the continental US? One of these articles was saying Iran was several years away at least, probably closer to a decade, from actually having a working nuke.

Pretty scary, but from the fear mongering earlier this year you'd think these people were just days from having a nuke.

Well, ICBM's aren't easy to make. Launching anything into orbit is hard enough, but to get a nuke on a target the size of a city you basically need a spacecraft that can survive reentry. First it is launched into space, then its boosted around the earth to its individual target and then reenters like any spacecraft to fall without power onto a target and explode of course.

US sort of went a bit extreme in the 80's and came up with the Peacekeeper missile that could have up to 10 warheads.

omnibus_necanda_sunt:Christ, how much does this shiat cost? Where do they get the cash for the fuel and oxidizers? Where do they get the uranium? How do they pay for the centrifuges get the centrifuges to spin even faster? How does a country full of starving brainwashed retards produce the scientists capable of doing this shiat?