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<p>I know from last year of what was supposed to happen with that proposed discussion paper that there is no way Australia is EVER going to have an R18+ rating, and most Australian's would rather laugh at us gamers and all gamers over the world feel sorry for people like me.</p><p>It will be even more worse if Australia had their internet censored, therefore not even I could even buy games outside from Australia at all via the internet if it is blocked.</p><p>So in order to change things, I&nbsp;am just going to have to move country.</p><p>Australia has never been a free country and all this talk of Australia being a lucky country is nothing but bull shit that politicians use to make us aussies feel lucky.</p><p>Sure I have Centrelink to help me when I am unemployed, and I have Australian Rules Football. But I will trade all that just so I can buy the Videogames I&nbsp;want and the internet that is free so I can get all the Hentai I&nbsp;want.</p><p>I plan to go to Ballarat University to study IT (Computer Games), then get a job in the Videogame Industry of Australia, and if the internet gets fucked up by the government I will just move to Canada where my freedoms of speech ARE protected.</p><p>That is my plan.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I will miss my family and all my friends, but I have to trade all those things just so I&nbsp;can feel safe to live as a free man.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:24:23 +0000TBoneTonycomment 235845 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Australian AG’s Divided on Adding Adult Ratinghttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/09/28/australian-ag%E2%80%99s-divided-adding-adult-rating#comment-235829
<p>&nbsp;<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 13px; ">The required edits would require no more than a month of dev time usually. &nbsp;It's a significantly smaller amount of money than what goes into developing the title. &nbsp;With the potential of hundreds of thousands more in sales. &nbsp;The only other cost being time.</span><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 13px; background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-size: 13px; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; background-position: initial initial; "><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; ">So unfortunately, it makes perfect business sense to placate the governments in return for profit. &nbsp;Of course the perfect scenario is to have the governments overturn the laws. &nbsp;And refusing to release the games in those countries would definitely help that. &nbsp;But CEOs and MBAs who run the business only care that the games are selling - NOT the principle of it. &nbsp;Although we gamers and developers care about the integrity of the game we are making. &nbsp;The people running the show do not.</p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; ">&nbsp;</p></div></span></p>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:19:02 +0000vellocetcomment 235829 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Australian AG’s Divided on Adding Adult Ratinghttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/09/28/australian-ag%E2%80%99s-divided-adding-adult-rating#comment-235828
<p>Edit: put comment in the wrong place... Michael Atkinson is still an idiot though...</p>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:17:19 +0000vellocetcomment 235828 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Australian AG’s Divided on Adding Adult Ratinghttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/09/28/australian-ag%E2%80%99s-divided-adding-adult-rating#comment-235817
<p>unfortunately less than 1% of us get to vote directly on Atkinson</p>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:58:03 +0000fetidchimpcomment 235817 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Australian AG’s Divided on Adding Adult Ratinghttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/09/28/australian-ag%E2%80%99s-divided-adding-adult-rating#comment-235809
<p>As I see the votes at the moment, 91% of Australian's DO want a R18+ rating for Videogames.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:37:12 +0000TBoneTonycomment 235809 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Australian AG’s Divided on Adding Adult Ratinghttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/09/28/australian-ag%E2%80%99s-divided-adding-adult-rating#comment-235803
<p>I think those comments were posted last year when the discussion paper was on the cards, but Atkinson just refused to commit to the entire discussion after promissing to do so.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>He knew he was going to lose so he just refused to discuss anything unless things went his way, as it turned out because of his arguments not having any real truth to it he knew he would lose the discussion and just dropped out all together.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>It is sad that there are some politicians who seem to be good at hearing different topics, but when it comes to videogames they look like the complete opposite, like little kids fighting over one cookie. However there have been some other issues where politicians have behaved like little kids.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I hope Rob Hulls is still there next year in the same position, and also that AG from the ACT who are both for the R18+ rating for Videogames, we need all the support we can get at the moment as it currently is.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:26:14 +0000TBoneTonycomment 235803 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Australian AG’s Divided on Adding Adult Ratinghttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/09/28/australian-ag%E2%80%99s-divided-adding-adult-rating#comment-235801
<p>An australian AG is appointed by the leader of the state to that position, but they must be first elected to the seat that they are running for.....So he can be thrown out by not winning his seat.&nbsp; However his electorate contains probably around 50 000 voters, so the other 16 million or so of us or so that can vote, have absolutely no say in it.</p><p>He has been the sitting member of that electorate since 1989.</p><p>One thing though is his main focus is on anti bike gang laws, which just got crushed and thrown out in court....so we will see if anyone was paying attention on that one, as he has carried on about that for many years now and would be more likely to be viewed in the mainstream as a fuck up over that than the R18 debate, as i can tell you right now that outside gaming circles it is either a non issue or they haven't even noticed, except for the week before a mad world or a gta comes out <img alt="" src="http://www.gamepolitics.com/sites/all/modules/fckeditor/fckeditor/editor/images/smiley/msn/thumbs_down.gif" />.&nbsp;</p>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:13:39 +0000fetidchimpcomment 235801 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Australian AG’s Divided on Adding Adult Ratinghttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/09/28/australian-ag%E2%80%99s-divided-adding-adult-rating#comment-235792
<p>Probably not that old. Actually, he's more like a record player, playing the same old, broken&nbsp;&quot;Think of The Children&quot; tune all &quot;moral&quot; people play through he ages.</p><p>------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p>Game on, brothers and sisters.</p>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:10:57 +0000Leet Gamer Jargoncomment 235792 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Australian AG’s Divided on Adding Adult Ratinghttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/09/28/australian-ag%E2%80%99s-divided-adding-adult-rating#comment-235791
<p>.....All?! All! You need ALL of the AGs to agree! Not &quot;the majority of&quot;; not &quot;6 out of 10&quot;; you need ALL! Are you f**king kidding me?! Do you know how ineffectual of a voting system that is?!</p><p>If the United States needed all of the popular vote and/or the electoral vote for a president to be elected, we'd never get one! Further more, if Congress needed all of the Senators/Representatives to vote for or against a bill for it to be considered for signing it into law (instead of pushing it through with the majority vote, like we sometimes do), they'd be in complete deadlock <em>all the goddamn time!</em></p><p>Jesus Christ! Someone, for the love of God and all that is holy, <em>please</em> give Atkinson the swine flu! Or ambush him, nail him in a box, and send his &quot;moral&quot; ass to freakin' Siberia! Let him tell the wolves not to show their cubs how to kill, for fear of damaging their <em>precious little minds!</em></p><p>P.S. Hey, Australian GPers, what's the process for someone to become AG, how long is their term, and when the hell do you think this jackass can be (finally!) taken out of office?</p><p>------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p>Game on, brothers and sisters.</p>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:08:59 +0000Leet Gamer Jargoncomment 235791 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Australian AG’s Divided on Adding Adult Ratinghttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/09/28/australian-ag%E2%80%99s-divided-adding-adult-rating#comment-235780
<p>&quot;<span class="body"><font size="2">Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.&quot; -&nbsp;Ben Franklin</font></span></p><p><span class="body"><font size="2">I don't know about in Austrailia but I always get carded when buying an M rated game, even though I'm obviously old enough. But I can buy any R rated movie with no questions asked.</font></span></p>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:26:37 +0000gamegod25comment 235780 at http://www.gamepolitics.com