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Talk about a guy who is utterly outside the fact-based community. Shocking that Anderson Cooper actually laid the wood to him. On the other hand, why did AC have to honor this guy’s “service” to his country? The reality is that birthers hate this country and its democratic values. They are causing harm to this country by continually raising this lunatic nonsense; this guy even seems to support the soldier who defied an order because he doesn’t believe Obama is a legitimate president because he was supposedly born elsewhere. Boy, that supports the military, doesn’t it? Whatever service to the country this idiot may have performed at some time is most assuredly wiped out to the disservice to this country that he is currently performing.

@1 I dont think these people hate this country. I think they just hate Obama and refuse to accept the fact they are wrong. If you say birthers hate this country by weakening the president, then that means that people that went against Bush hated this country too. Do you hate this country?

Chris @ 12 Birthers are lunatics. No question about it. I did not say that these freaks are harmful for weakening the presidency–read my words. They are wasting governmental resources defending against this insane allegation, that has been disproved time and time again, and, I said this Republican from Texas promotes a soldier who defies a military order because he thinks the president is illegitimate. Do you think that is a healthy position to take? Birthers hate this country’s democratic values. Those who defied Bush love this country’s democratic values. Sorry, Chris, there is not the slightest correlation between your comparisons.

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Puddybud identifying useless Moonbat!s since 2005 and identifying rujax as an arschloch and zotz as a fool!spews:

Pud, Bush/Cheney hated democracy. Executive orders, secrecy, flip-offs to treaties, etc. Those of us who said no to the most disastrous presidential administration (in terms of harm done, both domestically and internationally) in the history of this country did so because we love this country’s beaten-down, dishonored, forgotten democratic values. You don’t like democracy, Pud. So, it be.

Yes, Puddy, shame. What else could be expected of a man who gives a pass to the rank perversion displayed by his party’s leadership? What else could be expected of a black man who cavorts with racists and bigots? Yes, Puddy, shame. Please understand that you don’t have to believe in progressivism in order to denounce the foul racist, perverted stench emanating from the likes of the KLOWN, Troll and mot. You’d just have to be a man for once in your miserable life. But I don’t believe that you have it in you. No, you’ve already fulfilled your destiny. You did that when you became the KLOWN’s self-loathing bitch.

16 One of the best speeches I ever heard was delivered by Julian Bond (Puddy probably doesn’t even know who he is), the great civil rights activist. Bond said that with regard to politics for African-Americans, there is a short line (he was referring at the time to Clarence Thomas) and a long line. He said that if you want to stand in the short line and make your way straight to–well, not quite the top, because your skin color would never permit you to get to the top–a place of prominence, then be a black person in the Republican Party. Bond said merit doesn’t matter, just spew the line and have brown skin. The Rs will promote you, despite their racism, because pragmatism requires that the party have some people who are not white. Then, Bond said, there is the long line, the line in the Democratic Party for African-Americans, the party in which you must earn your way, through merit, because skin color doesn’t give you a pass. Puddy, how the hell do you so closely identify with a political party that fundamentally hates you?

@13 The correlation is opposition to the president. They are excercising their First Amendment rights. We dont need a First Amendment for non offensive speech. While Obama was certainly born in Hawaii, if he had not been, it would be good to stop him from being president because of what is in the constitution (while I, personally think that clause is stupid and we should NOT bar foreign born people from being president, if its in the constitution it has to be enforced to keep the constitution’s legitimacy). Therefore, while the birthers are factually wrong and are idiots, anyone who truly believes obama was born in kenya, indonesia or mars SHOULD say something. I stand by the idea of “I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”

Yeah, that way we know who the psychos and stupid people are. Such folks can be dismissed outright, as they aren’t really capable of understanding anything.

@ Puddy

Sigh.

Bush openly stated in public many many times, his open disdain and contempt for Democracy and the Constitution. His entire being during his tenure was dedicated to eliminating law enforcement efforts against his friends in the banking industry. He transferred the entire contingent of relevant investigators in the FBI over to anti-terrorism efforts after 9/11. The corruption of that administration will probably never be measured.

Once upon a time, no-bid contracts to cronies and financial supporters brought a President down. In fact, several times.

Andrew Johnson, who WAS impeached.

Woodrow Wilson ignored the antics of the Bankers, allowing them to run the farm economy into the ground and openly courted the Ku Klux Klan during his campaigns, and there were thousands of lynchings during his period in office, mostly around people efforts to vote. but much of that was to facilitate the theft of black farmers land.

Warren Harding had late night poker parties in the White House, fueled with lots of booze and oversaw the transfer of the US Federal oil reserve to the Department of the Interior, and his buddies there handed the reserve to Hardings buddies in the oil business, no bids, open bribery and the scandal brought the President down.

Calvin Coolidge also ignored the bankers antics, and his refusal to bring them to heel caused the Great Depression.

Spuddy, I know you have mental health issues, but please try to understand. The conservatives in this country look back to the days before the States War, and long for them. They oppose efforts by black folks to vote, stripping entire neighborhoods of voter registrations and polling places. They oppose efforts by the black community leaders to educate people.

Your support for the GOP is only pointing a gun at your own head.

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Puddybud identifying useless Moonbat!s since 2005 and identifying rujax as an arschloch and zotz as a fool!spews:

Pud, Bush/Cheney hated democracy. Executive orders, secrecy, flip-offs to treaties, etc. Those of us who said no to the most disastrous presidential administration (in terms of harm done, both domestically and internationally) in the history of this country did so because we love this country’s beaten-down, dishonored, forgotten democratic values. You don’t like democracy, Pud. So, it be.

This is all written wrong…

Proud Leftist, Obama/Biden hate democracy. Executive orders, secrecy of the health care bill, lying about taking ideas from Conservatives on health care, lying about Cap and Trade before admitting the bill will “necessary raise electricity rates” by an average $1700 a family, saying cameras in congress while no cameras in congress, The Hate America Tours, trying terrorists in courts, etc. Those of us who are saying no to the most disastrous presidential administration (in terms of harm done, high unemployment rate, creating money out of thin air with quantitative easing, creating stimulus bills that failed, lying to us about their CZARS and their whack-job support for Death Panels, damaging the US both domestically and internationally with the UN Spy Gate, allowing Bradley Manning to gather info to make us look bad) in the history of this country do so because we love this country’s beaten-down, dishonored, forgotten democratic values. You don’t like democracy, Proud Leftist. So, let it be known you hate America.

Fixed with the latest.

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Puddybud identifying useless Moonbat!s since 2005 and identifying rujax as an arschloch and zotz as a fool!spews:

One of the best speeches I ever heard was delivered by Julian Bond (Puddy probably doesn’t even know who he is), the great civil rights activist.

Another stupid venture into conjecture. Puddy met Julian years ago when he was more level headed. Now Julian is whack.

Then, Bond said, there is the long line, the line in the Democratic Party for African-Americans, the party in which you must earn your way, through merit, because skin color doesn’t give you a pass.

Puddy takes that comment back above. This is the biggest bouquet of bullshit delivered. Puddy gives you two examples: Harold Ford Jr and H Carl McCall, two blacks who “came through and earned they way” only to be thrown to the curb by white DUMBOCRATS when the big election came around. This so called racism was buried when the Tea Party placed 14 black men into congressional elections, many in the south. Two won in the deep south. The rest were kicked to the curb by black DUMBOCRATS. This is the reason when a black man actually reviews the past of the black man in the DUMBOCRAT Party, they leave.

Where is Julian’s call for DUMBOCRATS to help the inner city poor? No where. It’s missing in action.

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Puddybud identifying useless Moonbat!s since 2005 and identifying rujax as an arschloch and zotz as a fool!spews:

Spuddy, I know you have mental health issues, but please try to understand. The conservatives in this country look back to the days before the States War, and long for them. They oppose efforts by black folks to vote, stripping entire neighborhoods of voter registrations and polling places. They oppose efforts by the black community leaders to educate people.

Looks like Corrections Corporation of America is getting some bad press, and they don’t like it. Video was released of some guy in an Idaho prison getting assaulted while the guards watched. The guy manages to get to the guard cage and plead for help, but they ignore him. The assailant actually sits down for a while to take a break, then returns to beat the guy into unconsciousness. Only after it is all over, and the assailant leaves the scene, do the guards go out to check on the victim.

The CCA tried to block release of the video, claiming that it “unnecessarily put corrections workers at risk”. Bullshit. It just puts CCA profits at risk.

@24 I hadn’t seen that story. Man, if I could do this blogging thing full time, I’d devote much of that extra time to digging into what CCA is up to. They’re a shady group. They’re like a Blackwater that few people know about.

Already done last year, when they changed my account type (without asking me or giving notice) to one that enabled them to charge me $.50 per check written, and $37.00 per month for “maintenance fees”.

They sent me into overdraft 5 times in a year, then charged me $55.00 per overdraft, against my account. They’re excuse was that I didn’t keep a minimum of $300 in my checking at all times, even as my hours had been reduced and my Rent had gone up by $120, insurance on my car, and health insurance from my employer had nearly doubled in the same 2 month period.

But that never showed up until my account statement at the end of the month. I had to PAY THEM $75.00 to close the account, after they had ripped off my account for about $450 over a period of about 2 years.

BoA can choke. It’s too bad we don’t have an actual law enforcement organization for the banks. I hope the entire institution collapses.

Proud Leftist, Obama/Biden hate democracy. Executive orders, secrecy of the health care bill, lying about taking ideas from Conservatives on health care, lying about Cap and Trade before admitting the bill will “necessary raise electricity rates” by an average $1700 a family, saying cameras in congress while no cameras in congress, The Hate America Tours, trying terrorists in courts, etc. Those of us who are saying no to the most disastrous presidential administration (in terms of harm done, high unemployment rate, creating money out of thin air with quantitative easing, creating stimulus bills that failed, lying to us about their CZARS and their whack-job support for Death Panels, damaging the US both domestically and internationally with the UN Spy Gate, allowing Bradley Manning to gather info to make us look bad) in the history of this country do so because we love this country’s beaten-down, dishonored, forgotten democratic values. You don’t like democracy, Proud Leftist. So, let it be known you hate America.

Not going to address most of this as they are self-refuting or rambling, but before you accuse the President of ignoring Republican health care ideas, you really ought to read Richard Nixon’s 1974 State of the Union address.

Final thoughts on democracy. When Democrats won Congressional elections in 2006 and 2008, Republicans screamed about how Democrats stole the elections. When Republicans won big this year, Democrats accepted it as the result of an angry nation. Democrats think elections should be funded by individuals. Republicans think that elections should be bought and paid for by corporate donations. Democrats think that they should go to Washington to fix the economy and create jobs. Republicans think their highest priority over the next two years is making sure the President isn’t re-elected in 2012. The Administration talked yesterday about working together with Congressional Republicans. (Minority) Republicans in the Senate published a letter today saying that they’re not willing to compromise on anything until the Democrats do exactly what they want. Who actually respects and supports democracy as the will of the people?

Deathfrogg@30– I hate B of A as well. I have never paid 1 cent of interest or late fees ever on my Credit Card. I sent in my payment as usual 1 week before the due date. They showed it credited 2 days late. I called and said reverse the charge & late fee or I will cancel the card (which I’ve had for at least 15 years). It was like I was asking for their left nut! Finally they reversed it after about an hour of hassle. It was important to me because I have preached to our kids…no credit card interest or late fees OR Bank Charges..only irresponsible idiots pay those things! I was 50% successful (2 out of 4 listened). Credit card debt==buying shit you can’t afford.

I saw the interview with this guy on AC360, and it reminded me of Larry King intewviewing Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinijad. Ahmajinidad clearly isn’t functioning in reality, with the grandiose assertions he makes and the answers he gives to very straightforward questions. This guy from Texas is exactly the same.

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Puddybud identifying useless Moonbat!s since 2005 and identifying rujax as an arschloch and zotz as a fool!spews:

xar @ 31 Responding to Puddy with reason is like tacking Jello to the wall. He moves before you can find the tack. Good luck with it. I don’t want to discourage you, but this brand of “conservatives” doesn’t respond to reason.

Yeah, I’ve fallen for that, too. I have really tried to be earnest and rational (and speak slowly and use small words). It really doesn’t get you anywhere.

My last go-round with him involved the mythical MSM attack on Palin about her minor North Korea gaffe. He actually posted what appeared to be a cogent and researched response with hyperliks and everything. Unfortunately, that response didn’t survive even passing scrutiny – when I looked at the first link, it said nothing like what Pud claimed it said (and in fact affiratively contradicted him). It also stongly suggested that Pud merely googled “Palin” and “Korea” and threw up every link he found – without reading them.

My last go-round with him involved the mythical MSM attack on Palin about her minor North Korea gaffe.

This attack was proven true by using his Media Morons link and displaying seven of their references were Media Moron lies. Roger Rabbit sez just use one to prove them wrong. Puddy used seven, YEP, 7 of their links to destroy poor poor poor Liberal Scientist.

Since there were 7 links and when you claimed to go to the first link as you wrote above, you prove to all you are a historical revisionist. BTW historical revisionist here is what was said…

And, then, when you look at her statements, the tweets, all the stuff that comes out of camp Palin, it has to do with the media or her slashing back at the media for this or that insult, not so much about government.

Such an amazing abomination of a historical revisionist.

Soon you’ll join the HA pantheon of chronological idiots.

Sucks to be you Liberal Scientist.

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