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Jane Hamsher — Are You NUTS???

This is, without a doubt, the stupidest fucking post I have ever read on a left wing blog. I left it intact, and added my comments, which are in bright red. If Hamsher objects, she knows how to contact me.

For the record I don’t think it’s a big deal if Obama has to take sole responsibility for raising the debt limit. But he does.

It undermines his intention to run in 2012 as the “fiscally responsible” guy who closed the deficit, and that’s why he is cussing mad. Well, that and the fact that he has to undergo ritual humiliation at the hands of the GOP every 2 months to get what he wants.

One truly has to wonder if Jane ever even reads actual news. Her approach to “punditry” (if you can call it that) seems to be to try and figure out what sort of bullshit her loon following with accept as fact this time. I read this and I swear I felt like I was reading Ann Coulter.

Here’s the thing. Everyone but the teabaggers knows that the debt ceiling is a non-issue. It has nothing to do with the debt, it has to do with paying the bills. There is no way the economy of the United States should hang on something that has no actual bearing on anything important.

It is simply NOT “fiscally responsible” to allow default. In fact, it’s the opposite, even though the Republicans will take the hit politically if it happens.

But that last sentence cracks me up. What “humiliation” is she talking about? Obama has shown them up at every turn. Christ; the “budget deal” had a grand total of $38 billion in cuts, and most of those were accounting tricks. The Bush tax cuts were going to extend; he got a deal for the 99ers in return. So far, the only ones crying over the last six months are Boner (sp?) and Miss McConnell.

The irony is that the Obamabots are so out of touch with who Obama is and what he wants they don’t realize that by cheering for the McConnell deal, and his prowess in making McConnell “blink,” it amounts to twisting the knife for him. It makes it impossible for him to reject the deal the end — which empowers the GOP to hold out.

I don’t know anyone “cheering” for the McConnell deal. That seems to be a conclusion she has simply jumped to, based on zero evidence. I’m as strong an Obama supporter as there is, but even I’m a little wary of it. I’d have to see more details. But the fact is, both Boehner and McConnell blinked.

Obama put unspecified Social Security cuts on the table, precisely because the GOP had asked for them for six months, and he decided to call their bluff. They’ve already been tagged for actively trying to kill Medicare; you think Republicans also want to be tagged with cutting Gramma’s Social Security? Can you say “bloodbath”? He called their bluff, and THEY BLINKED.

First, Boehner, who is without a doubt the least prepared Speaker of the House in US history, called for a much SMALLER package of spending cuts. I’d REALLY like for Jane to explain to us all how putting Social Security on the table causes the Speaker to demand a SMALLER package of tax cuts, if OBAMA is the one who’s “humiliated.”

Then, there’s McConnell. For those with short memories, Miss McConnell is the Republican leader who stated that the number one goal of his party would be to make Obama a one-term president. Not fix the economy and make lives better, but to destroy Obama. He has spent the last 2 ½ years suggesting that Obama can’t be trusted with anything regarding the government.

Yet McConnell crafted this plan, in which he plans to give the “untrustworthy” Obama total control of the debt ceiling, in return for basically promising to provide Congress with some major spending cuts, which he all but promised to kill when they got there.

Jane thinks McConnell’s the smart one? Really?

BOTH Republicans demanded Social Security cuts for months. They’ve goaded and goaded, but the second Obama offered to entertain some, they BOTH essentially took Social Security back off the table. You have to be insane to think Republicans won this round. They’ve been bested by him every goddamn time they’d challenged him, and they’ve walked away looking like complete fools.

Cantor offered a temporary extension three times last night, and by both Democratic and GOP accounts, that’s what made Obama snap. He wouldn’t be rejecting it “even if it brings my presidency down,” and taking his case to the American people, if he thought he had scored some big victory.

For someone with a journalism backround, Jane doesn’t seem to pay attention to much news. The August 2 drop dead date is the THIRD extension for this year. We actually ran out of money in April, and it’s been stretched to August 2 because they’ve been able to move money around.

So, here’s the question; what would be the significance of a 90-day extension, exactly? The last 90-day extension has led us to this point, where Obama finally had to tell Boner and Missy to shit or get off the pot. They bluffed, he called it, and they immediately folded.

Apparently, Jane doesn’t play poker, because Obama won the pot, not the Republicans.

You gotta feel sorry for the guy. His most ardent supporters are the dumbest motherfuckers in the world, and they don’t realize he thinks they are digging his political grave.

Guess what, Jane; this particular “dumbest motherfucker in the world” just showed where not one actual fact was used in this post, and your analysis of the situation is, well, let’s just say the root word “anal” is appropriate in this case.

If the “dumbest motherfucker in the world” shows you as full of shit, I’m pretty sure that makes you a loon.

Firedoglake becomes more like FreeRepublic every day. That’s not a good thing.

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Jane Hamsher — Are You NUTS??? — 9 Comments

Jane Hamsher in my opinion have really lost her way and it reminds me of Lucifer who was banished and managed take a handful dunce angels he could convince with him. The only difference is she wasn’t thrown out she chose to leave. Progressive/liberals are supposed to be the ones with the brains instead Hamsher comes off like the knee-jerk reactionaries of the right. Someone with such a little understanding of politics and the process of really shouldn’t be granted such the large forum she has beyond FDL.

Oh Milty…….
“Making the Right Wingers Toast one Rant at a Time…”
Well, aren’t we full of ourselves.
Allow me to fix the verbiage which describes your twit account for you:
“Making My Credibility Toast one Ignored Mistake at a Time…”
My only hope is that you become a 99er and eat shit like the rest of us.
Fuck you.

Milt, I enjoyed reading your reply to Jane Hamsher’s article. I agree that President Obama is making big gains through compromise and subtle negotiation. I’ve appreciated his “trapping” of the Republicans if I may use a no-limit hold’em poker tactic. His handling of the aggressive Republican charge into the administration has been adroit. He will take heat, because many do not see the game, the strategy, the sublte manipulation of his opponents. The process is messy, confusing, and frankly obscures the objective; but President Obama has the objective in his mind’s eye in my opinion. I have proudly assumed the identity as an “Obamabot” in honor of Ms Hamsher’s ankle chewing overreaction to Obama’s negotiating stance.
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Milt, that’s not the point. Your assertion was the the President got a deal for the 99ers. He did not.
He got a deal those of us who were unemployed, but who could still qualify for unemployment benefits for up to 99 weeks. Those are not the 99ers.
Did he get a deal for the unemployed? Yes, he absolutely did, and I’m glad he did. Was it better than the GOP’s offer? Without a doubt.
But from the perspective of the 2 million Americans who have exhausted benefits, and for the estimated 4 million who will join them this year, the deal offered nothing.
It’s one thing to say that the 99ers are politically invisible to the GOP – that’s almost a foregone conclusion based on GOP statements. To say that progressives are overlooking these men and women who used to be part of the middle class… that’s a serious deficiency that we need to address now.

Really. So, if he hadn’t done the deal ALL Bush tax cuts would have expired, not just those for the rich. That means, when the GOP took the House, they would have taken them up again, with pretty much 80% of the country looking at a tax increase. Do you think they would have had ANY trouble extending them? Of course not.
Now, I want you to imagine the Republicans in Congress right now tacking on even 13 months of unemployment insurance, let alone the health insurance help and other assistance Obama got for them. Good luck with that.

Milt, I take your larger point, but you did swing and miss when you said that the President “got a deal for the 99ers.”
He didn’t.
He got a deal to continue the EUC and EB programs, but that was only for 13 months (in exchange for 24 months of Bush tax cuts) and only then for a maximum of 99 weeks of unemployment benefits.
The 99ers, people who have been out of work for 99 weeks or more, who are facing a job market like we’ve never seen before in our lifetimes, and who have exhausted state and federal benefits, have been rendered politically invisible.

“The GOP can’t understand that they’re being herded by President Obama, not just painted into a corner. Obama is playing three dimensional chess while the hapless Repubs are having a tough time with tiddlywinks. They look worse and worse everyday, not just to the partisans, but to the undecided, independent voters.”
That’s from a commenter at “The Caucus” in the NYT. Thought you might enjoy it!

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