Exorcism killing: 6 granted bail

Port Elizabeth - The six people accused of killing a child during a violent exorcism were granted bail by the Humansdorp Magistrate's Court, Eastern Cape police said on Thursday.

Lieutenant Colonel Priscilla Naidu said a priest and five of his congregants were granted bail on Wednesday, and would appear in court again on December 9.

Pastor Lonwabo Hamilton Tanda was granted R3 000 bail on condition he left Humansdorp and stayed with his family in Motherwell.

Naidu said Tanda was also not allowed to conduct any "deliverance" prayers.

Four congregants were also granted R3 000 bail and were not allowed to exorcise anybody during that time.

A sixth person was granted R1 000 bail on the same conditions.

The church members are accused of killing a 7-year-old girl while praying for her two weeks ago.

Naidu said the parents and the church members believed the child was possessed and had to be prayed for.

During the exorcism, they realised the girl needed medical attention and tried to take her to hospital, but she died on her way there.

On the night of the girl's death, police found bruises on her body and had noted that her eyes were swollen.

A post mortem showed that the child had sustained internal injuries.

Comments

arno.west - 2011-11-24 11:52

Killing like always in the name of the lord, when will the human race realize there is no gods or demons, the child maybe had a medical condition, but keep on killing as long if you have a scape goat!!!!!!!

jody.beggs - 2011-11-24 12:09

Its just a modern witch hunt !
Anything that goes against the bible or Quran is just raped , killed , burnt at the stake or treated with anger. (watch this space)
If you actually read the bible is scary how vengeful he was and loved smiting (killing) but we do it and we rot in hell...
It doesn't make sense !
And I don't get why people pray to a God that is going to destroy the earth!
My god is better than that !

arno.west - 2011-11-24 12:13

I'm my own god, who is yours?

Fred - 2011-11-24 12:25

Hello Jody
Is this a no true Scotsman God that you believe in?

jody.beggs - 2011-11-24 12:36

I control my own universe and am my own god !
Soft headed people need a crutch !

arno.west - 2011-11-24 12:42

Like your style Jody!

jody.beggs - 2011-11-24 15:22

@ServaasD .
I don't like the fact you drop GOD into everything.
If you stop using a imagined GOD as your safe all , I'm sure more people would stop criticizing religion !
Damn the Men of Religion , save the Earth from Armageddon.

jody.beggs - 2011-11-24 15:46

@@ServaasD what happened to your comment !
This is shocking.
Damn News24 , Save the Comment left in earnest !

Fred - 2011-11-24 11:53

Religious belief is the most pernicious form of self-deluding mental illness to inflict the human race.
Religion's just what we thought before we understood what mental illness was and should come with a health warning like cigarettes: ‘religion kills.’

arno.west - 2011-11-24 11:59

I agree, but the nutters will try and state otherwise, i cant believe grown people can believe and consider gods as fact without any proof, almost like little children believing in Santa and make belief friends!!!

arno.west - 2011-11-24 12:01

and here on the internet aka the new world there is no place for religion, for we are legion!

jody.beggs - 2011-11-24 15:27

@ServaasD wow as a christian you harbor so much hate.
Look closely at your life and if not anything like Jeebus you are a hypocrite sir and should be put down !
World religions are a corner stone for sexual predators and money grabbers ?
Do you want me to start quoting on all the things commited in the name of God or Allah ?
People are allowed an opinion , even you as long as its based on reality.
Damn the Man , Save the Atheist !

jody.beggs - 2011-11-24 15:47

@ServaasD wow now it looks like I just rant !
Did you delete your own comments ?

Jacques - 2011-11-24 12:00

I think what this country needs is a BIG BIG dose of education. I think that should be this countries number aim with regards to budgets and what have you. These people are acting like people did in the medieval ages! Complete lack of information and knowledge.

leigh.ridgway - 2011-11-24 12:05

I'm surprised they never drilled a hole directly into her skull to 'allow the demons out'! FFS people is there really an excuse for this? It's not like these people don't have access to media and other forms of education!

Merle - 2011-11-24 12:32

And they say that the crime rate has been reduced. Who they hell are they fooling.

Jacovdmerwe82 - 2011-11-24 12:43

New world... REALLY! Bwahahaha!! Wake up.. This is a tragedy I agree..

arno.west - 2011-11-24 12:48

The internet is the New World, it has no face, no race, no religion, it is just a collectedness of thoughts and ideas, those who are superior will embrace it those who does not know the power will be denied the right of use.

Jacovdmerwe82 - 2011-11-24 12:59

And that is Your belief.. ;-)

arno.west - 2011-11-24 13:04

no its a fact

arno.west - 2011-11-24 13:06

Or how would you define the internet?

Jacovdmerwe82 - 2011-11-24 13:21

I'll bet you sit in front of a computer every day thinking up things like this.. The point here is that we are not talking about the internet dude, we are talking about a Child's Life, one which was lost.. You can blame religion but never in my LIFE have my beliefs told me to do something, I do things because I CHOOSE to do them. Have you actually EVER read the Bible or are you basing your comments on what you read on the NET?

arno.west - 2011-11-24 13:38

My dad is a preacher in one of those happy clappy Churches, I grew up forced to study the bible, it's meanings and part take in something that I could not accept as real, for no one could give me proof I could agree with.
So when i turned 16 i left and never looked back since and that's almost 14 years ago.
But I do get what you are saying, but I have a question. What if your religion asked you, as you state has not yet asked you, to take the life of another, what will you do then?

Jacovdmerwe82 - 2011-11-24 13:41

My religion would not ask that of me ;-)

arno.west - 2011-11-24 13:53

But if it one day does, will you do it?

Jacovdmerwe82 - 2011-11-24 13:56

Whats the point to this question, no person would give you an answer on this.. I'm assuming you are trying to discredit my comments? LOL

arno.west - 2011-11-24 14:03

No just asking the what if question, nothing do discredit you, but in the past it was it was regularly used too justify killings and rampages.

dsmaartens - 2011-11-24 14:48

There is a God and He's not hard to find if you actually want to find Him. There is more than enough evidence of that ! Most people don't want to believe in Him because it convicts them.

jody.beggs - 2011-11-24 15:30

@Jacovdmerwe82 at least its tangible and based on fact !
Can you really say that about all world religions ?
Damn the indoctrination by the bigotry of religion , save the Empire !

jody.beggs - 2011-11-24 17:41

@dsmaartens really , not hard to find .
Interesting , then why do you need a priest or the church or the bible to find god , if he is easy to find ?
The church uses basic human needs and fears to intimidate ! Just go and see heavens flames and hell's gates and you'll see what I'm talking about !
Every single person has some kind of fears and phobia when it comes to death! They are not difficult to tap into and religion has had more than enough time and tortured enough people to know what these are !
To know your God is to see how he was represented in the past ! And if you look close enough today you can still see the sexism and hatred in its ranks , against same sex relationships , other religions , atheists , pagans , woman in leadership roles , blacks (weird because Jeebus wasn't white) , scientific information and the truth ?
The church needs sheeple to survive and the are plenty of those , just look at the cANCer followers.
Damn religious hypocrisy , save everyone else for a change (don't be so selfish ).

Breinlekkasie - 2011-11-24 12:50

That is what happens if people do things based on their faith rather than looking for evidence first.

abraham.page - 2011-11-24 13:36

Why did the family just not call the Winchester brothers from supernatural?

arno.west - 2011-11-24 13:41

lol

jody.beggs - 2011-11-24 17:42

Would have sorted that daemon out , quickly.
Awesome !

Lynn - 2011-11-24 13:45

I am so sorry for this poor child. Where were her parents while this was happening. I left my church because of this nonsense. The pastor was obsessed with demons. They even tried to tell me that menstrual pains were as a result of a demon.

christina.engela - 2011-11-24 14:19

Conclusive proof which shows that to some people, "prayer" involves physical violence. Christianity? no thanks - they can keep it.

Derick - 2011-11-24 15:04

The sad thing for those that believe in "nothing" is, when you dont want to find God, you wont..The Bible has been proven plenty of times, and God will not force you to believe in Him even though the proof is there. The only sad thing is, when someone gets killed like here, they associate it with God! That is not God...When people do things and say God told them to do that, well that wasn't God...If you don't recognise the voice of God, dont blame God, then YOU didn't listen often enough when He spoke to you...

arno.west - 2011-11-24 15:39

Where was the bible ever proven to be a work of fact? if you can provide proof from some source who has no ties with it, then I will accept that as true not when it was made proof by some or other believer.

jody.beggs - 2011-11-24 17:50

Never , ever trust anything that declares itself to to the one and only truth , the truth doesn't declare itself , it just makes itself visible to those who know where to look !
How many Christian live like Jeebus ? None all want there car , house , money , fine cloths and usually only help people they care about or in the community ?
Any Christians hang out with prostitutes lately or washed a beggars feet ?
If more Christian took it upon themselves to literally live like Jeebus then I might be inclined to follow , but everything I see in Christianity is lost in translation !
And I don't think for one second Jeebus didn't have sex and procreate ! If he didn't it was against the bible which states , "goes forth and multiply" !?!
Damn the untruth in the Bible , save the right heir to the Kingdom of heaven in Jeebus's bloodline !

Derick - 2011-11-25 08:30

To prove the bible as factual, you have to use something within the bible, and prove that as a fact. Now there are more than enough examples, but prophecy is a good example, as that entails history, which no one can disagree with…
If we take the prophecy in Daniel 2, which dates back to at least 150 B.C (proven by the dead sea scrolls found between 1947 and 1956 to mention one) in which a prophecy (and the future) is explained, it corresponds a 100% to history before it happened between 609 B.C and 476 A.D
The “truth” of the bible is as visible as it gets, but if you’re not interested in actually opening the bible and finding the truth, then you can’t just close your eyes and say it doesn’t exist.
And Jody, by NOT having sex, you’re going against the bible? What about the poor guy that is mentally ill and will never be able to get married and have sex? His for sure lost for ever cause he went against the bible….Doesn’t make sense….

Homemissionary - 2011-11-24 15:08

Yes.because this is how Jesus did it...When people claim to be Christian but don't actually READ and PRACTICE true Christianity..things are bound to go wrong.