Filmmaker Joel Gilbert has mailed 2.7 million copies of his full-length documentary DVD, Dreams from My Real Father, to households in key swing states, with 1.5 million going to Florida, 700,000 to Colorado and 500,000 to Iowa.

This follows an earlier mailing last month, in which Gilbert sent 1.38 million DVDs of Dreams from My Real Father to households in swing state Ohio and an additional 100,000 to New Hampshire and 80,000 to Nevada.

Joel Gilberts Dreams from My Real Father is available at WNDs Superstore

Gilbert told WND the direct mail program is aimed at bypassing the mainstream media blackout on his film.

Its shocking that in the land of the First Amendment, in the information age no less, a state of censorship exists on so many levels in the American media today, Gilbert said.

By mailing millions of DVDs to households in swing states, Gilbert aims to get his message heard despite the media blackout: As long as the major media refuse to cover my film, we are going to continue this publicity campaign by shipping DVDs ....

By mailing millions of DVDs to households in swing states, Gilbert aims to get his message heard despite the media blackout: As long as the major media refuse to cover my film, we are going to continue this publicity campaign by shipping DVDs

I expect unsolicited political mailings generally go straight into the trash; waste of money and effort.

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posted on 10/07/2012 5:58:33 PM PDT
by af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)

I really worry that this could backfire. Think about how well the Lefties have marginalized doubts about Obama’s birthplace. They’ve been so successful labeling and deriding people as “birthers” that the average voter out there thinks it’s simply ridiculous that Obama might not be eligible and anyone who thinks otherwise is some tin foil hat crazy.

If the Obama campaign can do the same with this film it might just make people roll their eyes and get annoyed at best.

Here’s hoping that won’t happen...

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posted on 10/07/2012 5:59:20 PM PDT
by verum ago
(Some people must truly be in love, for only love can be so blind.)

A good bit of the film is about his mother, as well as speculation on her morality. Truthfully, I think many could feel sympathy for Barack Obama because of his lonely and dysfunctional childhood. If I didn’t despise him so much, I know I would feel sadness.

I really worry that this could backfire. Think about how well the Lefties have marginalized doubts about Obamas birthplace. Theyve been so successful labeling and deriding people as birthers that the average voter out there thinks its simply ridiculous that Obama might not be eligible and anyone who thinks otherwise is some tin foil hat crazy.

If the Obama campaign can do the same with this film it might just make people roll their eyes and get annoyed at best.

Heres hoping that wont happen....

Heck, some of the GOP Media (Hannity, Levin, Ann Coulter, etc) have been as bad attacking and trying to marginalize “Birthers”...they have been as bad on the issue as the Liberal media has.

The problem with this “Frank Marshall Davis is Obama’s Father” stuff is that Barack, Jr., and his half-bro, George look so much alike...there is no way other than Barack Sr is Barack Jrs father

Also, these FM Davis-Obama father people are usually quite anti-Birther and also try to marginalize and attack “Birthers”....however, you still need a copy of Obama’s real Hawaii Birth Cert to prove that FM Davis was Obama’s father

Obama’s Eligibility should have been a main issue from day one...and not doing so may see Obama win a 2d term

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posted on 10/07/2012 6:20:02 PM PDT
by SeminoleCounty
(Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")

I can’t think of a better way to go around the MSM and expose the radical socialist from Chicago. People will discard junk mail but a FREE MOVIE DVD? I bet at least 50% will watch it. That is more than enough in a SWING state to make the difference. Bravo to the guy who can afford to carry out this expensive maneuver.

I really worry that this could backfire. Think about how well the Lefties have marginalized doubts about Obamas birthplace. Theyve been so successful labeling and deriding people as birthers that the average voter out there thinks its simply ridiculous that Obama might not be eligible and anyone who thinks otherwise is some tin foil hat crazy.

If the Obama campaign can do the same with this film it might just make people roll their eyes and get annoyed at best.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Agreed. We don’t need this right now.

“It’s the economy, stupid.”

We need to focus on objective issues. If we put this out there, the Left says it makes us look mean, and desperate, and THAT becomes the issue, our meanness and our desperation.

Stick to money issues, IMHO.

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posted on 10/07/2012 6:24:48 PM PDT
by Eccl 10:2
(Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")

It's just another example of a lie travelling halfway 'round the world before truth can get its pants on. Like all the mockumentary productions from this scumbag Gilbert, this one hangs on the identification of a namesless girl whose images were discovered on an exotic images website which has now been removed from the Net. He has no facts to support his contentions. Gilbert is the poor man's Michael Moore, making a name for himself. What I find difficult to understand is why WND would appear to be supportive. This is Jerome Corsi not making any sense imo; mind you, he does say claims - he's not in agreement and can reverse his stance at any time I guess.

Maybe it's nothing but a fall-back position, a desperate attempt to turn the foreign, unidentified zero into a US citizen with two US citizen parents.

The fact remains, no one knows who his parents were or where he came from.

Yes. It puts a lot of the pieces of the puzzle regarding his background, his alliances, ties to the Communist Party and Muslim Brotherhood. After watching it you will understand that he was placed in his current position by radical elements and that it was years in the making and why they’ve done it.

The only thing I disliked about it was the narrator posing as Obama himself, however it’s obvious that an awful lot of research was one to put the film together.

I thought it was very interesting especially 30 minutes on in. Fascinating - It is easily proved with DNA analysis. Frank Marshall Davis still has living relatives. There is also footage and pictures that I have never seen before. It is like anything else, review the material and weigh the evidence. There is a striking resemblance to Frank Marshall Davis but I am no expert.

The problem with this Frank Marshall Davis is Obamas Father stuff is that Barack, Jr., and his half-bro, George look so much alike...there is no way other than Barack Sr is Barack Jrs father

Really? George looks like Obama Senior, Obama looks like Uncle Frank. Look at the shape and distinctive details of each ones lips, George and Sr are a match, Barak and Frank are a match. There are other resemblences. Even if you can't believe Uncle Frank is Obama's biological father, he is his ideological father. You have to ask yourself why would a divorced African American man take such an interest in young Obama age 10-18, while the Kenyan couldn't have cared less. Frank Marshall Davis connection to Obama is just part of the information covered up to protect the greatest con ever perpetuated on the American people. It's mind boggling that the White House Facebook photo album has obvious doctored photos. Don't get me wrong, I think Romney is on his way to defeating Obama in spite of the unprecedented media cover up. I doubt this video mailing will hurt Romney though.

I believe this film can play both ways. A young child is never responsible for a parents behavior. The film portrays him as a fatherless little boy, treated as a pawn, raised in an adult world by grandparents and a mother who occasionally drops in to his life. Not to mention the man who was bribed to be his father of record.

WND is not the most authoritative site, by any means. They have printed claims by sketchy people about Obama with no evidence whatsoever. They have some good content, but then they allow some stuff that I consider just speculation, and treat it as news.

You’re right...but I guess it is NEWS when someone makes a movie that claims the father of the POTUS was a chinless wonder with a barrel chest and communist party membership, and that his mother posed for photographs that ended up in numerous exotic magazines...so it’s wise for Corsi to use the term CLAIMS - because Gilbert hasn’t any proof for either.
The girl in the photographs hasn’t been identified and the resemblance between Frank and zero is nothing but a figment of his imagination.

With nothing but a forged BC to go by, no one knows for certain who has parents are or where he was born, or what his real birthdate is...

On a somewhat related note, I just watched “Hope and The Change” on Hulu (Free). It is 40 dems who voted for him remarking on their disappointment etc. It’s actually somewhat annoying because I got the impression that, based on their responses to some questions, I was hearing the self congratulatory attitude I always suspected drove the gushing over how good people felt when they voted for him (one person said”I was so proud that I helped”). But, it does document their growing dissatisfaction with him (vacations, spending, repetitive empty promises).
Here’s the link but I am mostly just remarking on the fact that it is indeed a different election this time- I can’t imagine Hulu making this available prior to the 08 election.http://www.hulu.com/watch/409925

At the center of Gilbert's theory that Frank Marshall Davis is Obama's father is a series of nude and fetish photographs. They were the focus of his second promotional video for the DVD. They're featured prominently on his website, and he consistently references them in radio interviews. Radio host Peter Boyles has called them the "Rosetta Stone" that will unlock Obama's secret past, and Alex Jones declared "It's her in these photos."

The "her" to which Jones refers is Obama's mother Ann Dunham, who Gilbert claims is the woman depicted in these photos. Three of the photos were originally posted on the website of The Astute Bloggers in October 2008, where it was claimed that they had been forwarded by a reader. Even though one photo plainly bore a watermark of "free-vintage-porn.com", some people were convinced that the photos were of Ann Dunham. Over time, the claim evolved so that it was Frank Marshall Davis who was said to have taken the photos as well (perhaps an unsurprising development, as The Astute Bloggers website was also responsible for starting the rumor that Frank was Obama's father).

Here's what the narrator of Dreams From My Real Father has to say on the matter:

"At some point, she agreed to pose. These photos were taken a few weeks before Christmas 1960, when Mom was about five weeks pregnant with me. There's no mistaking: this is MY mama."

Gilbert has further elaborated on the photos outside the film itself. In his website Q&A:

I also obtained seven indecent photos of Ann Dunham, Obama’s mother, taken at Frank Marshall Davis’ house, suggesting an intimate connection between Dunham and Davis...

What new revelations are in Dreams from My Real Father? First, I make the case that Barack Obama’s real father was Communist Frank Marshall Davis. Next, the relationship between Davis and Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham, is illustrated with seven indecent photographs of Dunham, some including other women, taken at Frank Marshall Davis’ house in Honolulu.

Racy photos of Barack Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, have recently surfaced in vintage fetish and bondage magazines. The photos, taken at Frank Marshall Davis' house in Honolulu, appeared in Bizarre Life, Exotique, Secret Pleasures, and Battling Babes.

But if you look at the many, many photos of Ann Dunham and the naked girl in the pictures -- especially you can see her teeth; she has some recessed teeth on the left side -- it's very obviously Ann Dunham.

Most people didn't take the photo claim very seriously, because the woman in the pictures doesn't really look all that much like Ann Dunham. Sure, she bears a passing resemblance, in the same sense that as a bespectacled young white guy, I bear a passing resemblance to Daniel Radcliffe. Frankly, the woman in the photos looks a lot more like Joan Collins than Ann Dunham.

Since their original appearance in 2008, some have attempted to debunk the photos by identifying the model. This has proven fruitless, and unsurprisingly so; many mid-century nude and fetish models were nameless faces, anonymous to the world at large.

To his credit, Gilbert did somehow locate additional photos of the mystery woman he claims is Ann. And as noted above, he named several magazines where he claims they appeared. Both on his website and in Dreams, he shows the covers of six specific issues, and the website (on the right) flatly states "Frank Marshall Davis' photos of Ann Dunham appear in these vintage men's magazines." The magazines Gilbert shows are:

The last three magazines were published in 1958, 1957, and 1969, respectively. Exotique was published between 1955 and 1959.

Curiously, though, the pictures Gilbert shows appear in NONE of the issues he identifies. I consulted with the owner of a fansite for these magazines, who checked and confirmed that Gilbert's photos are nowhere to be seen in these issues. I personally reviewed copies of Exotique #14, Battling Babes and Secret Pleasures, and they included NO pictures of the mystery model.

What Secret Pleasures DID feature, on page 26, was this photo:

Who is the woman? I have no idea. But look at the chair she's seated on. At the pillow in the chair. At the window behind her. At the record player to her right, and the records peeking out below her leg. At the cabinet behind her, and at the floor beneath her. Look familiar?

That's right, it's the exact same setting as the 'Ann' photos. Published in a 1958 men's magazine. And it's not the only one. From Exotique #25, pages 7 and 40, respectively:

Now granted, these photos alone don't prove that the mystery model couldn't be Ann. Perhaps Davis took these in 1958, and he didn't change the arrangement of his room for two years. That's odd, and hardly the most compelling explanation, but it's not impossible. (Even though Gilbert himself would likely concede that these are from the same photoshoot.)

Unfortunately for Gilbert, that's not all. Further up this post, there's a screenshot of Gilbert's own website, with a video still that shows the woman he claims is 'Ann' sitting on a couch, pulling a black opera glove onto her left arm. That image appears in Gilbert's Dreams and in his promotional videos as well, but he's never released a full-size copy of that photo.

I found one, however:

This picture appeared in Exotique #23, on page 22. In 1958. When Ann Dunham was only 15 years old. Two years before Ann Dunham even moved to Hawaii.

We may never know who the mystery model is. But the Dunham family didn't move to Hawaii until the summer of 1960. Unless Ann Dunham had access to a time machine in the 1960s, it simply cannot be her.

Moreover, Joel Gilbert knows this. He found that opera glove photo; it was not circulating the web as an 'Ann' photo prior to his videos. He knows it came from Exotique, a magazine that ceased publication in 1959. From WND: "Gilbert found that several of the photos in the collection appeared in a magazine called Exotique, published by pin-up photographer Leonard Burtman, who worked in New York City."

Thus he knows this picture was published two years before Ann first stepped foot in Hawaii, years before she could have met Frank Marshall Davis. And yet he explicitly claims, multiple times, that the photo was TAKEN at Christmastime 1960. This is not a lie of ignorance or mistake; it is a lie of pure, fully-informed malice.

And that's the BEST-case scenario for Gilbert. Gilbert knows that Ann was born in 1942, and he knows he found these pictures in 1958 magazines. If Gilbert truly believes that these ARE somehow pictures of a 15-year-old Ann, then he's been distributing hundreds of thousands of DVDs featuring nude and erotic pictures of someone he believes to be an underage girl.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, Gilbert has thus far refused to disclose the actual sources of the erotic photos he put in his videos. He identified six issues, none of which checked out, and five of which contradict his 1960 date anyway. As shown above, to disclose the true issues would be to destroy his own claim that the photos are of Ann, and to let his audience know that he's lying to them. And so he refuses to cite his sources, even when they're just magazine issue numbers.

So there you have it. The people who've said 'Frank Davis took naked pictures of Stanley Ann Dunham in December of 1960' are provably wrong. The woman they claim is Ann was having her photographs from this very shoot published at least as early as 1958. When Ann was a 15-year-old in Washington, years before she ever stepped foot on Hawaii or could have conceivably even met Frank Marshall Davis. Joel Gilbert has unnecessarily obscured the actual publication dates of the pictures he found, because he knows those simple facts will prove to everyone that he's lying about them being taken in 1960, and lying about Frank Marshall Davis taking them of Ann, and lying about them being evidence of an intimate relationship between Frank and Ann.

As I wrote in my first post in this series, "I can't promise that I'll convince everyone that Joel Gilbert is a charlatan and his film is a joke, but I think by this time next week, anyone who continues to trust Gilbert has some depressingly low standards for what they'll believe." I'm sure some people will still prefer to believe in him and his photos, and nothing will convince them otherwise. To them, I can only say this: just as Joel Gilbert has known for months, you now know that his photos were being published in 1958. Possibly even earlier. So if you still want to believe that the woman in those photos is Ann Dunham, that means you also have to believe that the woman in those photos is no more than 15 years old. Keep that in mind as you talk about them, and post them online, and save them on your computer. I know you're not doing anything illegal or morally disgusting (because it's not Ann), but what are you telling yourselves?

Finally, even though I've reached #1 in this series and I think I've solidly proven my case, I had two more research developments on Monday that I'll be typing up in the next few days. So be sure to keep an eye out for those to come.

Until someone posts O’s alleged mother’s photographs with the actual covers of the magazines with the dates that proves they ere taken prior to the time she was living in Hawaii the debunker could just as well be paid by Obama to forge another lie to make it look like Gilbert is lying on this matter. What the debunker “forgot” or omitted was that there were some albums in those photos that were also seen in photos taken in FMD’s residence. He didn’t mention that.

Says a lot about us and our society that the most powerful man in government is non-verifiable, his past hidden and covered up with two "auto"biographies and the tireless efforts of a relentless obama mainlining media.

I do my best not to hate him and I'm almost successful sometimes, but for the rest of his enablers and supporters I can't find many reasons to hold it back, not for what they've done to me and my country.

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posted on 10/08/2012 9:06:54 AM PDT
by GBA
(The line is drawn, two choices left: We must pull back from the line or be forced to cross it.)

WND is not the most authoritative site, by any means. They have printed claims by sketchy people about Obama with no evidence whatsoever. They have some good content, but then they allow some stuff that I consider just speculation, and treat it as news.

I agree. WND has become like the "National Enquirer" of conservative directed news. You need to take their stories with a grain of salt.

A crease line under someone's nose doesn't make FMD who was born in 1905 and was 55 years old in 1960 anyone's father - just as a photograph of Stanley Ann Dunham photographed with zero when he was two years old doesn't make her his mother.

The only one who resembles Frank Marshall Davis is his son, Mark:

Just as Mark Ndesandjo is the son of the kenyan student and Ruth Beatrice Baker:

It's patently obvious the comparisons commonly used only work if the same images are trotted out over and over. Once you look at a number of them closely, the theory falls down.

Using black and white images of George - who had two black native kenyan parents just doesn't impress me. George might or might not be a son of the kenyan. And as for the lines under the nose, I think everyone has them.

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