Battle for Darkshore - Horde Introduction Questline (8.1 Spoilers)

The 8.1 PTR was updated with the introduction questline for the Battle for Darkshore Warfront on the Horde side. Below, we went through the questline, as well as possible implications for the aftermath of this questline.

WARNING: Heavy 8.1 Story Spoilers ahead! Do not continue if you don't want to be spoiled!

Darkshore Questline

We start this questline at the Banshee's Veil, by talking to Nathanos and accepting Trouble in Darkshore. We must investigate what is going on in the former Night Elf zone, and talk to Dread Admiral Tattersail to go there.

When you arrive in Darkshore, the zone looks much different than the chaos left by the Burning of Teldrassil. An unnatural night, bathed in a giant dark moon, permeates the zone. The remains of Teldrassil are no longer visible, hidden by the thick fog by Azeroth's ocean. You will immediately notice that the area around Lor'danel has been turned into a Goblin lumber mill. You will also have a debuff, 猎物. The quest map is also closer to Lor'danel, but the overworld map has not changed. Thanks mrpeach774 for the picture!

On 黑月当空, 黑暗游侠扩军 and 清除藤蔓！, we attempt to discover what is causing the unnatural night, as well as free goblin shredders and raise Night Elf forces as Dark Rangers. The lieutenants we defeat are part of a seemingly new force, the Army of the Black Moon.

With each lieutenant we slay, Sira Moonwarden warns us. She's close.

Sira Moonwarden says: You will not win. We follow your every step.Sira Moonwarden says: The end is close now.Sira Moonwarden says: Scamper back to your Banshee Queen. We are coming for you.

After defeating all Army of the Black Moon lieutenants, a lost wisp starts following you. We bring it back to Nathanos on 我们还没有摆脱危机, as it might have the information we require.

After this quest, we go to retrieve the body of Delaryn Summermoon in 希望湮灭之地, in an area aptly named Delaryn's Demise.

Nathanos Blightcaller says: There is one more asset to acquire. One who resisted... and failed. The Dark Lady was very... specific in her wishes.

After finding Delaryn's corpse, you're spotted by Sira Moonwarden, leader of the Wardens. You're forced to fight with her, and after defeating the Warden, Nathanos appears. You can then choose to kill the Night Elf, or let Nathanos do the dirty job for you.

Sira Moonwarden says: This is where it ends. You have nowhere else to run.Sira Moonwarden says: Ash'al theradas!Sira Moonwarden says: Spare me the trouble and die!Sira Moonwarden says: Soon she will be here, and she will tear you to pieces.

After Sira is defeated, standing at 1 health:Nathanos Blightcaller says: My my, look what we have here. The hunter has become the prey. It's almost a cliché, when you think about it.Nathanos Blightcaller says: What are you waiting for? Finish her.Sira Moonwarden says: Where... is she...?

On 遗忘者的暗夜, we need to protect the two Val'kyr sent by Sylvanas as they attempt to raise both Delaryn and Sira. However, the Night Warrior herself, Tyrande Whisperwind, arrives! While the ritual happens, Malfurion Stormrage also shows up. Fortunately, the Val'kyr manage to raise both Delaryn and Sira, who turn against Tyrande. This is not without a complete loss for the Alliance - Brynja, one of Sylvanas' Val'kyr, die in the process.

Tyrande Whisperwind says: You will not see another sunrise, monster.Nathanos Blightcaller says: How uncouth for the... Queen of the Tree Elves, is it? No, I suppose that won't do... What exactly do you rule over these days?Tyrande Whisperwind says: I am no queen. I am the kaldorei's vengeance!Nathanos Blightcaller says: You are nothing. Raise them!Brynja says: Rise! In the name of Sylvanas, the Banshee Queen, I bestow this gift upon you!

After we hurt Tyrande a bit, she gets mind controlled by Brynja, one of the Val'kyr.Nathanos Blightcaller says: Enough! Any last words, priestess?Nathanos Blightcaller says: Soon you will share the faith of your dear friend Sira... and the noble Delaryn. Reunions can be so... heartwarming.Tyrande Whisperwind says: Shal'karath!

Sira and Delaryn are then raised as forsaken.Tyrande Whisperwind says: You must fight the shadow in your hearts, sisters!Sira Moonwarden says: We placed our faith in you.Delaryn Summermoon says: And you abandoned us. Elune abandoned us!Delaryn Summermoon says: We have nothing left. We are forsaken.Tyrande Whisperwind says: Never again. Ash thoribas!

After we return to Lor'danel Landing, we see both Sira and Delaryn as forsaken. In 战后余波, we talk to Nathanos. There is another cinematic, also disabled on the PTR.

After talking to Nathanos, we return to Zuldazar on Warfront Preparations, and prepare for the Battle for Darkshore.

Delaryn's Death

In the short story Elegy, the death of Delaryn Summermoon is explored in great detail. We get to experience much greater sorrow than what we've seen of her during the Warbringers: Sylvanas cinematic, with her calling out for Elune in her last moments. This might help explain Delaryn's sudden attitude shift after being raised as forsaken, openly denouncing Elune.

However, this does not fully explain how Delaryn would suddenly go from being a fervent Elune follower to openly following Sylvanas, so mind control can also be at play. After all, Tyrande herself gets mind-controlled for a short duration so the Val'kyr can finish raising both elves.

The parallels between Sylvanas and Arthas also continue - Sylvanas was very specific in wanting to raise Delaryn and Delaryn alone, and once raised, she's turned into a Dark Ranger Captain. When Arthas raised Sylvanas as a banshee, he specifically sought her out - while stripping the former High Elf of her free will.

This could also explain why Sira also went from taunting Nathanos not long before her death to abandoning Tyrande on her revival as Forsaken.

Sylvanas Windrunner had turned Delaryn's head so the dying kaldorei had a perfect view of the incineration of all she loved--all she had fought for, believed in, bled for. All she had lived for...and was about to die for.

The tree of life was now a deathtrap, and soon would be the site of the greatest mass incremation Azeroth had ever known.

"Close your eyes," Ferryn said. He stretched out in front of her, trying to shield her from the inferno's tortured brightness. But his ghostly form was translucent. He blurred, but did not block, the sight.

I cannot close my eyes. Though she couldn't say it. She was long past speaking. Her breaths had numbers. I have to see this.

If there were any mercy, the excruciating sight would burn her eyes to blindness, but cruelly that solace was denied her. Her senses were at their peak, screaming. She shouldn't be able to hear the crackling groans of the World Tree's burning limbs, yet the sound mingled with the shrieks of those left on Darkshore.

With a strange perversity, Delaryn felt only coldness in the face of the scorching heat.

Death is cold, she thought. Even for those who burn.

Those whom I failed.

"Release your hatred and your fear," Ferryn said, so softly, so gently. "You are past all of it now. Come with me."

You are not real, Delaryn thought with both anger and anguish. You are only wistful shadows, promising peace.

There will be no peace. Not for me.

The ghostly form of the night elf druid disappeared--but of course, it had never been there.

Above the canopy, above the burning tree, above all the trials and torments of this world, hung two moons, the White Lady and the Blue Child, Mother and infant, Elune and her people. The night skies once offered such comfort and balm. Now they were cold, the stars as hard as the diamonds they resembled.

Where are you, Elune? How could you abandon your children to fire? We gave all we had. For what?

She was lucky. Arrows would claim her life. But the children whose cradle had been the boughs of the World Tree would die in agony and, worse, in utter innocense.

Turn your face from Azeroth in shame, Elune. Her thoughts were daggers. You have abandoned us. We tried so hard...We believed in your love, in your protection...

Her mouth was too dry, her body too weak, to even spit in contempt.

Her pain grew, even as the coldness seeped into her heart.

Soon, it will not hurt at all, the ghostly shape of her beloved had assured her. Would it still hurt when she passed into oblivion?

There was no Ferryn to ask.

Sylvanas' True Objective

The quest Dark Ranger Round-Up, the quest objective becomes very interesting as Sylvanas seemingly has plans for the Sentinels she wants to raise as Forsaken.

These night elf incursions have left us undermanned. We need reinforcements to hold this ground until our army arrives.

Brynja, one of the Dark Lady's val'kyr, will be nearby. Slay the night elves and command Brynja to raise them into our ranks as Dark Rangers.

Did I not make myself clear? It is possible. The Dark Lady has plans.

Through the A Good War short story, there were hints that Sylvanas would have a ulterior motive between all of her actions, being more clearly described near the end of the story:

Elune had intervened. Perhaps she had even stayed Saurfang’s killing blow. And she wouldn’t be the only force beyond the Alliance to oppose Sylvanas’s true objective.

Sylvanas’s anger grew cold.

She had known this would happen. It had simply come sooner than expected. That was all.

What would be this ulterior motive? After Sylvanas' failure to capture and use Eyir as a means to create new Forsaken (亡灵新生), she could be using the faction war as a mere excuse to raise more Forsaken. There are many parallels to Arthas in Sylvanas’ recent behavior, so perhaps she ultimately wants to raise an army of Forsaken to rival the Lich King’s army of Scourge in size.

Sylvanas and the Val'kyr

In the short story "Edge of Night," Sylvanas enters into a pact with the Lich King's nine remaining Val'kyr.

"We are bound to the will of the dormant Lich King. Imprisoned atop Icecrown, possibly for eternity. We hunger for our freedom, as you once hungered for yours." Annhylde knelt beside Sylvanas, the other Val'kyr clustering around the pair of them, arms linked. "We need a vessel. One like us. A sister of war. Strong. Who understands life and death. Who has seen the light and the dark. Someone worthy—worthy of power over life and death."

"My sisters will be free, free of the Lich King forever, but their souls will be bound to yours," Annhylde continued. "Sylvanas Windrunner, Dark Lady, queen of the Forsaken… you may walk with the living again through the sisterhood of the Val'kyr. As long as they live, so too shall you. Freedom, life… and power over death. This is our pact. Do you accept our gift?"

Sylvanas answered, but not right away. The lurking oblivion filled her with terror. Even now, she felt the tempest rage around her. This was her only way out. But she didn't want to give her assent out of fear. She waited until she felt something more. A fellowship. A sisterhood. Sisters. Separate, they were all trapped. But together, they were free… and with them, she could postpone her fate.

"Yes," she said. "We have a pact."

Annhylde nodded grimly, then rose up, her features blurred and ghostly. "The pact is made, Sylvanas Windrunner," she said. "My sisters are yours, and you hold sway over life and death." A long pause, and then: "I shall take your place."

The light was blinding.

Then Sylvanas awoke, her body twisted but whole, the enormous column of Icecrown Citadel looming above her like a tombstone.

Annhylde was gone. Sylvanas was surrounded by the eight remaining Val'kyr.

As long as they lived, so too would she.

As part of the pact, one Val'kyr (召唤者安海尔德) took Sylvanas' place in the endless void, leaving her with eight remaining val'kyr.

In Cataclysm, Sylvanas lost four more Val'kyr--three after her death in 死灰之城 (阿加莎, 阿尔苏拉 and 达丝琪拉) and one killed by the Alliance in the Battle for Andorhal (阿娜德尼).

Sylvanas started Battle for Azeroth off with four remaining Val'kyr, and now with Tyrande killing Brynja in the Patch 8.1 storyline, Sylvanas is left with three Val'kyr: Signe and two unnamed Val'kyr (possibly 基尔莉芙 and 战斗召唤者奥尔伦, two Val'kyr that did appear during Wrath of the Lich King but their status after Arthas' demise is unknown). This was the exact number needed to resurrect Sylvanas in Cataclysm, so if she wants to attempt to reviver herself once more, she can't afford to lose any more. Although Sylvanas has other lesser val'kyr into her service, only the original 9 from the pact in Icecrown are strong enough to be able to resurrect her.

After The Dead of the Night, Signe, the other Val'kyr sent into this mission, also notice this.

List of Quests

Darkshore was never particularly well-lit, but something has happened. The moon has turned black and everything is cast in shadow. Any scouts I send into the forest don't come back. The night elves have done something. And I need to know what. Their rank-and-file won't have the information we need. Seek out their lieutenants and question them by any means necessary.

Slay Vindicative Sentinels and Archers and command the Val'kyr to raise them as Dark Rangers.

These night elf incursions have left us undermanned. We need reinforcements to hold this ground until our army arrives. Brynja, one of the Dark Lady's val'kyr, will be nearby. Slay the night elves and command Brynja to raise them into our ranks as Dark Rangers. Did I not make myself clear? It is possible. The Dark Lady has plans.

Chaos! Chaos and misery! We got shredders that ain't shreddin'! We've been hard at work getting all these trees chopped down, but something keeps messing with our machines! They get all tangled up in vines out of nowhere! I don't dare send any of my goons in with all these night elves stalkin' around. See if you can get in there and free up my machines from those vines!

It appears that these night elves won't give up the information easily, but you have brought us something that might. See if you can get the wisp to reveal what happened here in Darkshore. I don't care how you do it. Father Norlath will take care of it from there.

We must accelerate the Dark Lady's plans before we are overrun. There is one night elf that must be found. You may remember her from our last venture here in Darkshore. Don't worry, she is already dead. So she shouldn't give you as much trouble as the living ones. Find her body and signal me.

We all have our reasons for accepting the val'kyr's gift of undeath. Now is not the time to discuss them. A heavy blow has been dealt to Sylvanas today. There is no time to rest. Nathanos has summoned you. There is something you must see.

评论

评论来自 Kelras

made a pact with Bwonsamdi thus making himself ready to eternal servitude to the Loa of Death.That's also a factor. Who knows what will end up happening to him after his physical body is killed.

评论来自 Earlinwe

on 2018-10-05T04:53:08-05:00

Kyra is one of the remaining Val'kyrs: she's located behind the Banshee's Wail, in Zuldazar. She's the one who raised Stone and Zelling as Forsaken during the Horde war campain.

Unfortunately, the Val'kyr manage to raise both Delaryn and Sira, who turn against Tyrande. This is not without a complete loss for the Alliance - Brynja, one of Sylvanas' Val'kyr, die in the process.

You probably mean "Fortunately" (since the story is told from the point of view of Sylvanas' followers -- granted, the majority of players don't agree with them, but still ^^) and the second sentence is quite hard to understand... do you mean that it is "not a complete loss for the Alliance", or "not without a loss for the Horde"? Or did I miss something?

评论来自 Lostelf

on 2018-10-05T04:58:30-05:00

I like that they give us a choice whether or not to kill Sira ourselves. Hopefully, we also get a choice when we deal with Saurfang.

评论来自 Asturinah

on 2018-10-05T05:09:32-05:00

I'm making it a challenge to find a positive comment in these posts. You all can be VERY negative- get gone or shut up.

评论来自 Alixie

on 2018-10-05T05:14:19-05:00

I hate you for not saving our people! So I'm going to kill our people!

The hell is this logic? You cant be simultaneously angry that your people were massacred, then make it your mission to finish killing off the survivors. Not even Sylvanas was humiliated this badly; she was forced against her will to help Arthas attack her homeland.

What do the Night Elves get after years of being the Horde's punching bag and losing so much territory? A @#$%ty skin that's actually a leftover from the Demon Hunter skins. Certain head pieces reveal that they have black eyes when the glow is removed. The Blood Elves didnt have to lose anything to get gold eye customizations, why do the Night Elves have to lose even more?

What does the Horde lose? One Valkyr, but who cares because Sylvanas still has a couple more, and Nathanos survives with his smart mouth intact. He even escapes with his mission competed. Raising a bunch of new forsaken Night Elves (how?), jobbing Tyrande and Malfurion, and humiliating a Warden and specifically, Delaryn.

What do the Night Elves lose? Darkshore will forever be a smoldering mess with goblin machinery and forsaken blight, that will be occupied by the Horde. Teldrassil is now a tourist attraction for popcorn selfies and the butt of many jokes about fire. Seriously, every npc in the game is cracking a joke about the tree; it's one of the Dark Iron's punchlines. Elune will probably be revealed to be an old god or something stupid, and is now the target of a lot of scorn, even if they rehash the plot with Ysera and "cleanse the corruption" from the undead Night Elves. Worst of all are interesting and new Night Elf characters being turned into Horde loyalists, who will probably spearhead the assault on their own home in the new Warfront. It's beyond bull!@#$ that Night Elf players will have to fight their own people, as if losing their home and undergoing a genocide wasn't bad enough.

For anyone who thinks this is funny or "Alliance whining", the game has been hemorrhaging players for years, and crapping on the lore isnt doing the game any favors after the bad press BfA has gotten. I dont want the game to die, but damn these are some really stupid story choices.

Edit: It's especially cruel and petty of Sylvanas to want to raise Delaryn to serve her, after her defiance was paid with by setting Teldrassil on fire.

评论来自 Alechs777

on 2018-10-05T05:18:22-05:00

I'm throwing up...

评论来自 AlunariasAvenue

on 2018-10-05T05:18:42-05:00

That cinematic, we cannot see yet, will obviously show both Sira and Delaryn in the spotlight, revealing that they are only "pretending" to be mindcontrolled, and soon will get make things right.

...I want to be naive. I wish I could keep this charade up...

The "GOTCHA!" moment should have happened already. It's been too long. A good story is not one, that raises more questions than answers, and it is not one that isn't good, until the very last page of the book.

评论来自 Iceman3317

on 2018-10-05T05:29:32-05:00

"This woman burned everything and everyone I've ever loved, but hell with it, let's join up with her to kill more of my people! Cause that makes sense!"

It is likely Sylvanis has stripped them of their free will which is why the are following her. She knows if she doesn't they will turn. And they possibly still could turn like Derek who still has his free will currently. Sylvanis can give them free will or not. She has that power just like the Lich King. If she wants to give them free will, she will, if she doesn't, she'll take it away or kill them. That is how Sylvanis has been since after Cata,

评论来自 Murden

on 2018-10-05T06:01:04-05:00

Another hit to the night elf punching bag

评论来自 Samym23

on 2018-10-05T06:03:38-05:00

I'm so bored of Sylvanas raises NPC... For real.

And i have the feeling that, once again, the Horde is likely to win that war AGAIN...

I mean, who cares about a random Val'kyr when it trades for Delaryn and a Warden, and again Horde is not punished.

I really side with the Alliance on this expension, they did nothing wrong from the start, and i really hope "Tides of VENGEANCE" is not a joke, i want the Horde feels AT LEAST equal to what Alliance felt during prepatch and 8.0, come on.

评论来自 Derajalen

评论来自 carriebot

on 2018-10-05T06:07:29-05:00

I hate to agree with the negativity...but this is actually insulting it's so bad.

评论来自 BadVaal

on 2018-10-05T06:09:00-05:00

I wanted to be positive about this expac. I overcame my anger about the shaft the Alliance is getting all the time. Losing Theramore one of my favorite cities ever, then followed up by "updated" zones in Cataclysm which butcher the elven lands, drain resources and even show Horde corrupting Heart of the Forest in Ashenvale for their gain.

The genocide of the Gilneans at the hands of the Forsaken, the fact that Nightborne joined the Horde after my Night elf druid helped them for 2 years and cured their addiction and despite the fact that most of the Nightborne from Suramar are directly related with the Night elves we have today, heck they might even share family ties but sure, let them butcher their kin in the name of the Horde.

Then the Teldrassil burning and the whole atrocity the questline leading to it was. Malfurion and Tyrande slowly being turned to joke memes for the sake of simple writing. Tyrande groweling at Anduin's feet and Shandris, general of the Sentinel Army turned to simple "rogue" like npc who cannot even take down properly one Shan'layn.

But Sira and Delaryn are the last straw which broke the camel's back. I will have no more of this cheap lore butchering which looks like it came out of a pen of 15yo fanfic writer with edgelord syndrome. Nothing can excuse the fact that Alliance has been spat on and showed as weak for years now.

Even the storyline of BFA is atrocious in that regard. While the Alliance has to sneak left and right, cowering from the "might of Zandalari fleet" despite getting the Kul Tiran fleet back, they make covert infiltration and nothing more. Then we have the Horde which magically pulls the soldier and vehicle numbers out of their peons apparently. They establish several strongholds on Kul Tiras, manage to fly in mini zeppelins to assault helpless villagers and top it off with resurrecting Jaina's brother. And somehow all these new "Forsaken" serve their Lichqueen without a second thought.

Well Im out. I will not have my night elf druid tarnished by this lore lol any longer. It was a good ride of 13 years but BFA has done it for me. Lorewise and also systemwise.

评论来自 tupolew519

on 2018-10-05T06:09:35-05:00

How could they do this to delaryn?

评论来自 Derajalen

on 2018-10-05T06:13:16-05:00

I'm so bored of Sylvanas raises NPC... For real.

And i have the feeling that, once again, the Horde is likely to win that war AGAIN...

I mean, who cares about a random Val'kyr when it trades for Delaryn and a Warden, and again Horde is not punished.

I really side with the Alliance on this expension, they did nothing wrong from the start, and i really hope "Tides of VENGEANCE" is not a joke, i want the Horde feels AT LEAST equal to what Alliance felt during prepatch and 8.0, come on.

We have, it's called Garrosh.......... Vol'jin................. Oh yeah let's NOT forget about your King's little kill all the forsaken in Undercity sacking. But you just gloss "RIGHT OVER ALL OF THAT!"

Here you are crying over a city that is *cough* still there talk to a... and some unnamed npcs... &%#&ing really?

Any and every change you alliance get to do something do us, "UNPREVOKED", you have. Now you get a small taste of the same and you roll around like a baby crying in the street like democreeps after nov. 2016.

评论来自 RobNajjar

on 2018-10-05T06:16:33-05:00

If this is how they are going with the night warrior story, they may as well dump it. What was the point of becoming Elune's wrath incarnate if Tyrande cant handle a couple of people. Even Rastakhan could deal with Zul as the "champion of Bwonsamdi", though he couldnt stop the release of G'huun. Would be nice if the night elves, and by extension the alliance, aren't continuously made to look and be bad to cover up the fact they could easily deal with the horde, and to make the horde look good.

to be fair, he didn't become important in game until legion. Not to say he didn't exist, but Nathanos went from "guy that alliance want to kill for turning on them" to "one of Sylvanas' many but seemingly unimportant lieutenants" (in cata)to "Sylvanas' right hand man/ maybe boyfriend" inlegion. He is basically like Maraad, he existed for a while but became more mainstream recently.

I'm so bored of Sylvanas raises NPC... For real.

And i have the feeling that, once again, the Horde is likely to win that war AGAIN...

I mean, who cares about a random Val'kyr when it trades for Delaryn and a Warden, and again Horde is not punished.

I really side with the Alliance on this expension, they did nothing wrong from the start, and i really hope "Tides of VENGEANCE" is not a joke, i want the Horde feels AT LEAST equal to what Alliance felt during prepatch and 8.0, come on.

We have, it's called Garrosh.......... Vol'jin................. Oh yeah let's NOT forget about your King's little kill all the forsaken in Undercity sacking. But you just gloss "RIGHT OVER ALL OF THAT!"

Here you are crying over a city that is *cough* still there talk to a... and some unnamed npcs... &%#&ing really?

Any and ever change you alliance get to do something do us, "UNPREVOKED" you have. Now you get a small taste of the same and you roll around like a baby crying in the street like democreeps after nov. 2016.

Garrosh was the hordes problem to solve, yet the alliance solved it and was nice enough to let the horde get away with everything they did under him. Even then, Thrall kills him so the horde killed their former warchief anyway.Also orgrimmar got its second update in as many expansions thanks to SoO. Ill give you vol'jin but he was always a background character (thanks to blizzards writing) so his death was stupid regardless. As for SoL, the undead left UC and Sylvanas bombed it, so there was nothing to "sack" (you may want to look up the word if you think UC was "sackable").

The alliance has had to suffer time and time again to make the horde happy, and the horde has never been punished or told off about anything they do. The second the alliance does anything, they get told off for doing anything, like a victim standing up to their victimizer. The fact the horde hasn't been wiped out, or actually punished, is proof enough that blizzard defends the horde because at this point, the horde is becoming a bigger threat to Azeroth than anything else. The horde is a faction of people who either committed heinous acts (like orcs and forsaken), or are there because they feel honorbound to be there, so if you don't like it, you have 2 options (alliance or leave) because this isn't new and has been so since the beginning of WoW.

As for alliance crying over minor characters, maybe they wouldn't have to be annoyed about it if blizzard didn't make the alliance a punching bag for the horde. At this point, alliance characters are there make be beaten up by the horde to make horde players feel warm and fuzzy about their faction, so they can deal with their meme characters (gamon, saurfang, whatever zappyboi's real name is), crazy ones and the ones who get treated like crap for some reason (theron), and the fact they plan a faction with a history of bad acts, and one that cant win a faction war if blizzard ever did a proper one. I mean the horde lost the first war they started and they are about to lose the second, yet the horde are the ones who look good

评论来自 cruelmoon

on 2018-10-05T06:21:53-05:00

Isn't that great when the Horde has a victory, Night Elves are brought near extinction, but the best thing Night Elves get to win is... lose some more by having their people turned into undead and... killing one pathetic Val'kyr.

By Blizzard's standards, any miserable thing the Alliance takes from the Horde is considered a massive achievement, considering how dumb Ian believe the Night Elves are.

评论来自 Asturinah

on 2018-10-05T06:27:34-05:00

Just why, people? Why...This is PTR.This isn't even COMPLETED yet.Some of this will CHANGE.Why are you guys so toxic? Please, just stop this. I...have no words. And I don't want to be cruel.

评论来自 OrferVan

on 2018-10-05T06:36:05-05:00

Just why, people? Why...This is PTR.This isn't even COMPLETED yet.Some of this will CHANGE.Why are you guys so toxic? Please, just stop this. I...have no words. And I don't want to be cruel.

Come on, I don't even care about what happens in the questline, but saying that it will change is a lieWe have been fed this stuff since beta and not a single word has been changed, so don't try to pull this &*!@ here

评论来自 Derajalen

on 2018-10-05T06:36:33-05:00

Garrosh was the hordes problem to solve, yet the alliance solved it and was nice enough to let the horde get away with everything they did under him. Even then, Thrall kills him so the horde killed their former warchief anyway.Also orgrimmar got its second update in as many expansions thanks to SoO. Ill give you vol'jin but he was always a background character (thanks to blizzards writing) so his death was stupid regardless. As for SoL, the undead left UC and Sylvanas bombed it, so there was nothing to "sack" (you may want to look up the word if you think UC was "sackable").