star_topology:Of the sophomore QBs to regress this season--I just have a feeling that it's going to be Wilson.

Weird thing was his progression DURING the last season. He didn't explode on the scene or anything, he just kept getting better. I think he will be less likely to slump than any other (except maybe tannehil)

Read this before you flaunt your ignorance again. And notice the picture halfway down, the shot from the back of the endzone, an angle nobody in the nation but those receiving Seattle's network feed saw: two feet on the ground, possession of the ball while Jennings is still in the air. Touchdown.

The same questions could be asked of any team, but I still feel somewhat confident. Here's why:

1) most of the team has returned, except for some of the one-year contract role players like Branch2) the rest of the NFC West seemed to lose players (Rams, 49ers) and didn't really add anybody too surprising3) everyone is worked up over Harvin's injury, but Seattle did fine without him previously4) Wilson is too focused and aware to allow a slump; even Cam Newton acknowledged much of his slump was caused by the adulation going to his head. The team believes in him, and he has brought a passion to the team that's been missing for ... almost ten years now. Wilson, this year, is just learning some of the basics in the playbook.

If there's something to worry about, it's the TE. Miller can't handle the load on his own, and losing McCoy is awful. Willson is a capable backup, but he's a rookie, and seems unpolished.

whizbangthedirtfarmer:3) everyone is worked up over Harvin's injury, but Seattle did fine without him previously

I'm still kinda worked up about it, I guess because "fine" isn't the standard I'm setting for this team now. Harvin was going to be the player to put them over the top. The offense was good and at times great in the second half of last season but in a competent, moving-the-chains kind of way. Harvin was going to be that guy who changes games and makes the team win games they otherwise have no business winning, like Victor Cruz... the difference between 11-5 with a wild card berth and 13-3 with home field through the playoffs.

star_topology:Of the sophomore QBs to regress this season--I just have a feeling that it's going to be Wilson.

I realize I'm completely biased and not to be trusted on this, but I just don't see it. The guy is already a legend for his work ethic, on a level with people like Peyton Manning. Yeah, other teams are scouting him and trying to figure him out... and Wilson is scouting those other teams and trying to figure them out, too, and he's proven to be damn good at it so far. His week-by-week improvement last season was really remarkable to watch.

TacitusProximus:rufus-t-firefly: Subby's right, especially considering these refs won't be calling any of their games.

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Read this before you flaunt your ignorance again. And notice the picture halfway down, the shot from the back of the endzone, an angle nobody in the nation but those receiving Seattle's network feed saw: two feet on the ground, possession of the ball while Jennings is still in the air. Touchdown.

Look. That was a touchdown in the same way that Tom Brady was tucking the ball back in 2001.

Seattle got a gift. The refs got it wrong. They do that from time to time (more frequently when they are replacement refs). But pretending that there is any sort of serious argument for that to be an actual TD is silly.

Lolz. This line must be repeated on air sirens throughout Seattle 24/7, because no matter where you go (fark, other message boards, anywhere), Seadderall fans are repeating this line ad nauseum. He's already a "legend," huh? So, if he were to die or retire suddenly, we'd still be talking about his "legendary" work ethic 30 years from now? Has it been immoratilized in a song by Bob Dylan? Will Obama talk about it in his state of the union address?

Legend. That word. I don't think it means what Seadderall fans think it means.

TacitusProximus:rufus-t-firefly: Subby's right, especially considering these refs won't be calling any of their games.

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Read this before you flaunt your ignorance again. And notice the picture halfway down, the shot from the back of the endzone, an angle nobody in the nation but those receiving Seattle's network feed saw: two feet on the ground, possession of the ball while Jennings is still in the air. Touchdown.

I've seen that site before and, as a Seahawks fan, I really don't agree with their interpretation of the rules. "Possession" isn't the same thing as a completed catch -- it's just one element of a completed catch. Under the rulebook, possession + both feet on the ground + maintaining after the catch = completion. What this shows, if anything, is that Tate had something that would be deemed a completed catch before Jennings did, but that's not what the tiebreaker rule refers to; it's about who has possession first. The fact that Tate had his feet on the ground first is thus something of a strawman. And as I see it, Jennings had possession a fraction of a second before Tate did. Of course, as I always point out, the Packers also got their only TD in the game from a phantom PI call (to say nothing of all the blatant holding in the second half after giving up eight sacks in the first), so it evened out over the course of the game. The better team won. But hey, if that moment helped hasten the return of the regular refs, then I'm all for it.

Lolz. This line must be repeated on air sirens throughout Seattle 24/7, because no matter where you go (fark, other message boards, anywhere), Seadderall fans are repeating this line ad nauseum. He's already a "legend," huh? So, if he were to die or retire suddenly, we'd still be talking about his "legendary" work ethic 30 years from now? Has it been immoratilized in a song by Bob Dylan? Will Obama talk about it in his state of the union address?

Legend. That word. I don't think it means what Seadderall fans think it means.

Yes, because people whose careers are tragically cut short are never thought of again. That's why nobody ever talks about Herb Score, Tony Conigliaro, Bo Jackson, Len Bias, John F. Kennedy, Greta Garbo, Janis Joplin or Kurt Cobain... all swept into the dustbin of history. How right you are.

Super Chronic:Why Would I Read the Article: Super Chronic: The guy is already a legend for his work ethic,

Lolz. This line must be repeated on air sirens throughout Seattle 24/7, because no matter where you go (fark, other message boards, anywhere), Seadderall fans are repeating this line ad nauseum. He's already a "legend," huh? So, if he were to die or retire suddenly, we'd still be talking about his "legendary" work ethic 30 years from now? Has it been immoratilized in a song by Bob Dylan? Will Obama talk about it in his state of the union address?

Legend. That word. I don't think it means what Seadderall fans think it means.

Yes, because people whose careers are tragically cut short are never thought of again. That's why nobody ever talks about Herb Score, Tony Conigliaro, Bo Jackson, Len Bias, John F. Kennedy, Greta Garbo, Janis Joplin or Kurt Cobain... all swept into the dustbin of history. How right you are.

KFBR392:TacitusProximus: rufus-t-firefly: Subby's right, especially considering these refs won't be calling any of their games.

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http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/shame-the-angry-mob-gol de n-tates-touchdown-was-legit/17706/

Read this before you flaunt your ignorance again. And notice the picture halfway down, the shot from the back of the endzone, an angle nobody in the nation but those receiving Seattle's network feed saw: two feet on the ground, possession of the ball while Jennings is still in the air. Touchdown.

Look. That was a touchdown in the same way that Tom Brady was tucking the ball back in 2001.

Seattle got a gift. The refs got it wrong. They do that from time to time (more frequently when they are replacement refs). But pretending that there is any sort of serious argument for that to be an actual TD is silly.

Lolz. This line must be repeated on air sirens throughout Seattle 24/7, because no matter where you go (fark, other message boards, anywhere), Seadderall fans are repeating this line ad nauseum. He's already a "legend," huh? So, if he were to die or retire suddenly, we'd still be talking about his "legendary" work ethic 30 years from now? Has it been immoratilized in a song by Bob Dylan? Will Obama talk about it in his state of the union address?

Legend. That word. I don't think it means what Seadderall fans think it means.

justtray:KFBR392: TacitusProximus: rufus-t-firefly: Subby's right, especially considering these refs won't be calling any of their games.

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http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/shame-the-angry-mob-gol de n-tates-touchdown-was-legit/17706/

Read this before you flaunt your ignorance again. And notice the picture halfway down, the shot from the back of the endzone, an angle nobody in the nation but those receiving Seattle's network feed saw: two feet on the ground, possession of the ball while Jennings is still in the air. Touchdown.

Look. That was a touchdown in the same way that Tom Brady was tucking the ball back in 2001.

Seattle got a gift. The refs got it wrong. They do that from time to time (more frequently when they are replacement refs). But pretending that there is any sort of serious argument for that to be an actual TD is silly.

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/shame-the-angry-mob-gol de n-tates-touchdown-was-legit/17706/

Read this before you flaunt your ignorance again. And notice the picture halfway down, the shot from the back of the endzone, an angle nobody in the nation but those receiving Seattle's network feed saw: two feet on the ground, possession of the ball while Jennings is still in the air. Touchdown.

Look. That was a touchdown in the same way that Tom Brady was tucking the ball back in 2001.

Seattle got a gift. The refs got it wrong. They do that from time to time (more frequently when they are replacement refs). But pretending that there is any sort of serious argument for that to be an actual TD is silly.

homarjr:star_topology: Of the sophomore QBs to regress this season--I just have a feeling that it's going to be Wilson.

I can't stand Wilson. There's something about him. And I agree, I think he's going to regress.

I think Kaepernick will regress too, and it will be more drastic because of how well he did last season, but I still think the 49ers take the division, and CK has the better year than Wilson.

/That barely made sense

I hate how he's really good at football, visits the children's hospital every tuesday, hosts children's football camps, never gets in any kind of trouble and always says the right things in the media (when he's available, because y'know, he's always in the film room trying to get better) while winning games too.

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/shame-the-angry-mob-gol de n-tates-touchdown-was-legit/17706/

Read this before you flaunt your ignorance again. And notice the picture halfway down, the shot from the back of the endzone, an angle nobody in the nation but those receiving Seattle's network feed saw: two feet on the ground, possession of the ball while Jennings is still in the air. Touchdown.

Look. That was a touchdown in the same way that Tom Brady was tucking the ball back in 2001.

Seattle got a gift. The refs got it wrong. They do that from time to time (more frequently when they are replacement refs). But pretending that there is any sort of serious argument for that to be an actual TD is silly.

Super Chronic:whizbangthedirtfarmer: 3) everyone is worked up over Harvin's injury, but Seattle did fine without him previously

I'm still kinda worked up about it, I guess because "fine" isn't the standard I'm setting for this team now. Harvin was going to be the player to put them over the top. The offense was good and at times great in the second half of last season but in a competent, moving-the-chains kind of way. Harvin was going to be that guy who changes games and makes the team win games they otherwise have no business winning, like Victor Cruz... the difference between 11-5 with a wild card berth and 13-3 with home field through the playoffs.

They scored 150 pts over 3 games, including 42 against SF. Wilson tied Peyton Manning's record for most TDs passes by a rookie QB.

The Seahawks should have been 13-3 at least last season. Braylon Edwards dropped the game-winning TD in AZ Week 1 and the defense didn't hold on the final drive in Detroit or Miami. With the additions made outside of Harvin this offseason (Winfield, Avril, Bennett) and the progression of a ton of young players (Lane, Thurmond, Wilson, Wagner, Wright, Irvin, etc.) I'd bet this team is still extremely capable of a season that would put them in the #1 or #2 seed.

Why Would I Read the Article: Super Chronic: The guy is already a legend for his work ethic,

Lolz. This line must be repeated on air sirens throughout Seattle 24/7, because no matter where you go (fark, other message boards, anywhere), Seadderall fans are repeating this line ad nauseum. He's already a "legend," huh? So, if he were to die or retire suddenly, we'd still be talking about his "legendary" work ethic 30 years from now? Has it been immoratilized in a song by Bob Dylan? Will Obama talk about it in his state of the union address?

Legend. That word. I don't think it means what Seadderall fans think it means.

Yes, because people whose careers are tragically cut short are never thought of again. That's why nobody ever talks about Herb Score, Tony Conigliaro, Bo Jackson, Len Bias, John F. Kennedy, Greta Garbo, Janis Joplin or Kurt Cobain... all swept into the dustbin of history. How right you are.

LMAO. So Russell Wilson is now Bo Jackson, JFK and Kurt Cobain in one? And you completely missed the point, too. I'm not saying Wilson wouldn't be remembered, period, if he were to die young, I'm saying he wouldn't be remembered for having a "legendary" work ethic. And you still haven't explained what makes it so "legendary." But if you didn't understand that in the first go round, you probably won't understand it now, and it probably can't be explained to you. So we'll move on.

Shame Us:Super Chronic: whizbangthedirtfarmer: 3) everyone is worked up over Harvin's injury, but Seattle did fine without him previously

I'm still kinda worked up about it, I guess because "fine" isn't the standard I'm setting for this team now. Harvin was going to be the player to put them over the top. The offense was good and at times great in the second half of last season but in a competent, moving-the-chains kind of way. Harvin was going to be that guy who changes games and makes the team win games they otherwise have no business winning, like Victor Cruz... the difference between 11-5 with a wild card berth and 13-3 with home field through the playoffs.

They scored 150 pts over 3 games, including 42 against SF. Wilson tied Peyton Manning's record for most TDs passes by a rookie QB.

The Seahawks should have been 13-3 at least last season. Braylon Edwards dropped the game-winning TD in AZ Week 1 and the defense didn't hold on the final drive in Detroit or Miami. With the additions made outside of Harvin this offseason (Winfield, Avril, Bennett) and the progression of a ton of young players (Lane, Thurmond, Wilson, Wagner, Wright, Irvin, etc.) I'd bet this team is still extremely capable of a season that would put them in the #1 or #2 seed.

You "what if" scenario is hilarious for not including the Green Bay game.

homarjr:Shame Us: Super Chronic: whizbangthedirtfarmer: 3) everyone is worked up over Harvin's injury, but Seattle did fine without him previously

I'm still kinda worked up about it, I guess because "fine" isn't the standard I'm setting for this team now. Harvin was going to be the player to put them over the top. The offense was good and at times great in the second half of last season but in a competent, moving-the-chains kind of way. Harvin was going to be that guy who changes games and makes the team win games they otherwise have no business winning, like Victor Cruz... the difference between 11-5 with a wild card berth and 13-3 with home field through the playoffs.

They scored 150 pts over 3 games, including 42 against SF. Wilson tied Peyton Manning's record for most TDs passes by a rookie QB.

The Seahawks should have been 13-3 at least last season. Braylon Edwards dropped the game-winning TD in AZ Week 1 and the defense didn't hold on the final drive in Detroit or Miami. With the additions made outside of Harvin this offseason (Winfield, Avril, Bennett) and the progression of a ton of young players (Lane, Thurmond, Wilson, Wagner, Wright, Irvin, etc.) I'd bet this team is still extremely capable of a season that would put them in the #1 or #2 seed.

You "what if" scenario is hilarious for not including the Green Bay game.

Went 11-5, should have easily won 3 more (14-2). If we include the GB game (13-3) if you concede that GBs TD drive was any better officiated than the Seahawks winning TD. The Packers were gifted a 1st on 3rd and long by a phantom PI call. Not to mention the blatant holds that went uncalled on that drive. The entire 2nd half of that game was an officiating abortion. All we know for sure is that Seattle was ahead 7-6 before the ref's brains started leaking out their ears. Either way, you're wrong.

Shame Us:homarjr: star_topology: Of the sophomore QBs to regress this season--I just have a feeling that it's going to be Wilson.

I can't stand Wilson. There's something about him. And I agree, I think he's going to regress.

I think Kaepernick will regress too, and it will be more drastic because of how well he did last season, but I still think the 49ers take the division, and CK has the better year than Wilson.

/That barely made sense

I hate how he's really good at football, visits the children's hospital every tuesday, hosts children's football camps, never gets in any kind of trouble and always says the right things in the media (when he's available, because y'know, he's always in the film room trying to get better) while winning games too.

I couldn't care less what kind of person he is off the field. Same goes for guys like Michael Vick and Aaron Hernandez.

I just don't think Wilson is as good at football as a lot of people are making him out to be, and I see a regression coming. It makes me not like him. That's all.

Shame Us:Went 11-5, should have easily won 3 more (14-2). If we include the GB game (13-3) if you concede that GBs TD drive was any better officiated than the Seahawks winning TD. The Packers were gifted a 1st on 3rd and long by a phantom PI call. Not to mention the blatant holds that went uncalled on that drive. The entire 2nd half of that game was an officiating abortion. All we know for sure is that Seattle was ahead 7-6 before the ref's brains started leaking out their ears. Either way, you're wrong.

homarjr:Shame Us: homarjr: star_topology: Of the sophomore QBs to regress this season--I just have a feeling that it's going to be Wilson.

I can't stand Wilson. There's something about him. And I agree, I think he's going to regress.

I think Kaepernick will regress too, and it will be more drastic because of how well he did last season, but I still think the 49ers take the division, and CK has the better year than Wilson.

/That barely made sense

I hate how he's really good at football, visits the children's hospital every tuesday, hosts children's football camps, never gets in any kind of trouble and always says the right things in the media (when he's available, because y'know, he's always in the film room trying to get better) while winning games too.

I couldn't care less what kind of person he is off the field. Same goes for guys like Michael Vick and Aaron Hernandez.

I just don't think Wilson is as good at football as a lot of people are making him out to be, and I see a regression coming. It makes me not like him. That's all.

Shame Us:homarjr: Shame Us: Super Chronic: whizbangthedirtfarmer: 3) everyone is worked up over Harvin's injury, but Seattle did fine without him previously

I'm still kinda worked up about it, I guess because "fine" isn't the standard I'm setting for this team now. Harvin was going to be the player to put them over the top. The offense was good and at times great in the second half of last season but in a competent, moving-the-chains kind of way. Harvin was going to be that guy who changes games and makes the team win games they otherwise have no business winning, like Victor Cruz... the difference between 11-5 with a wild card berth and 13-3 with home field through the playoffs.

They scored 150 pts over 3 games, including 42 against SF. Wilson tied Peyton Manning's record for most TDs passes by a rookie QB.

The Seahawks should have been 13-3 at least last season. Braylon Edwards dropped the game-winning TD in AZ Week 1 and the defense didn't hold on the final drive in Detroit or Miami. With the additions made outside of Harvin this offseason (Winfield, Avril, Bennett) and the progression of a ton of young players (Lane, Thurmond, Wilson, Wagner, Wright, Irvin, etc.) I'd bet this team is still extremely capable of a season that would put them in the #1 or #2 seed.

You "what if" scenario is hilarious for not including the Green Bay game.

Went 11-5, should have easily won 3 more (14-2). If we include the GB game (13-3) if you concede that GBs TD drive was any better officiated than the Seahawks winning TD. The Packers were gifted a 1st on 3rd and long by a phantom PI call. Not to mention the blatant holds that went uncalled on that drive. The entire 2nd half of that game was an officiating abortion. All we know for sure is that Seattle was ahead 7-6 before the ref's brains started leaking out their ears. Either way, you're wrong.

I'm wrong and you're saying they should have easily won games that they didn't actually win? I don't follow the team that closely but I'm sure if i dug deep, I could find scenarios where they lose 5 or 6 games with a couple changes here and there.

And we don't know "for sure" when they refs became complete idiots. Quit making things up to suit your own ridiculous story.

Why Would I Read the Article:LMAO. So Russell Wilson is now Bo Jackson, JFK and Kurt Cobain in one? And you completely missed the point, too. I'm not saying Wilson wouldn't be remembered, period, if he were to die young, I'm saying he wouldn't be remembered for having a "legendary" work ethic. And you still haven't explained what makes it so "legendary." But if you didn't understand that in the first go round, you probably won't understand it now, and it probably can't be explained to you. So we'll move on.

Don't take it from me, take it from the veteran players, coaches and scouts who have all been around the block and swear, to a man, that his preparation is unlike that of anyone else they've ever played with. Look, I'm real sorry you root for a team whose QB is an unlikeable bro-douche with chin pubes and Jesus tats who will never live up to Wilson's magnetism; he's pretty good too, though, and maybe he can use that dickweed thing to his advantage by making the rest of the league dislike him so much they lose focus.

Shame Us:homarjr: Shame Us: Super Chronic: whizbangthedirtfarmer: 3) everyone is worked up over Harvin's injury, but Seattle did fine without him previously

I'm still kinda worked up about it, I guess because "fine" isn't the standard I'm setting for this team now. Harvin was going to be the player to put them over the top. The offense was good and at times great in the second half of last season but in a competent, moving-the-chains kind of way. Harvin was going to be that guy who changes games and makes the team win games they otherwise have no business winning, like Victor Cruz... the difference between 11-5 with a wild card berth and 13-3 with home field through the playoffs.

They scored 150 pts over 3 games, including 42 against SF. Wilson tied Peyton Manning's record for most TDs passes by a rookie QB.

The Seahawks should have been 13-3 at least last season. Braylon Edwards dropped the game-winning TD in AZ Week 1 and the defense didn't hold on the final drive in Detroit or Miami. With the additions made outside of Harvin this offseason (Winfield, Avril, Bennett) and the progression of a ton of young players (Lane, Thurmond, Wilson, Wagner, Wright, Irvin, etc.) I'd bet this team is still extremely capable of a season that would put them in the #1 or #2 seed.

You "what if" scenario is hilarious for not including the Green Bay game.

Went 11-5, should have easily won 3 more (14-2). If we include the GB game (13-3) if you concede that GBs TD drive was any better officiated than the Seahawks winning TD. The Packers were gifted a 1st on 3rd and long by a phantom PI call. Not to mention the blatant holds that went uncalled on that drive. The entire 2nd half of that game was an officiating abortion. All we know for sure is that Seattle was ahead 7-6 before the ref's brains started leaking out their ears. Either way, you're wrong.

They should have easily been 16-0. Those other teams had a lot of nerve interrupting the Seahawks' perfect season. They would have won all their games if things went differently in all the games they lost but exactly the same in all the games they won.

And since they should have been 16-0 last season, obviously they're going 16-0 this year. Put their names on the trophy, season over.

/phew long post, good thing I've got that prescription to keep me focused

Super Chronic:Don't take it from me, take it from the veteran players, coaches and scouts who have all been around the block and swear, to a man, that his preparation is unlike that of anyone else they've ever played with. Look, I'm real sorry you root for a team whose QB is an unlikeable bro-douche with chin pubes and Jesus tats who will never live up to Wilson's magnetism; he's pretty good too, though, and maybe he can use that dickweed thing to his advantage by making the rest of the league dislike him so much they lose focus.

homarjr:Shame Us: The Seahawks should have been 13-3 at least last season. Braylon Edwards dropped the game-winning TD in AZ Week 1 and the defense didn't hold on the final drive in Detroit or Miami. With the additions made outside of Harvin this offseason (Winfield, Avril, Bennett) and the progression of a ton of young players (Lane, Thurmond, Wilson, Wagner, Wright, Irvin, etc.) I'd bet this team is still extremely capable of a season that would put them in the #1 or #2 seed.

You "what if" scenario is hilarious for not including the Green Bay game.

Went 11-5, should have easily won 3 more (14-2). If we include the GB game (13-3) if you concede that GBs TD drive was any better officiated than the Seahawks winning TD. The Packers were gifted a 1st on 3rd and long by a phantom PI call. Not to mention the blatant holds that went uncalled on that drive. The entire 2nd half of that game was an officiating abortion. All we know for sure is that Seattle was ahead 7-6 before the ref's brains started leaking out their ears. Either way, you're wrong.

I'm wrong and you're saying they should have easily won games that they didn't actually win?

I don't follow the team that closely but I'm sure if i dug deep, I could find scenarios where they lose 5 or 6 games with a couple changes here and there. And we don't know "for sure" when they refs became complete idiots. Quit making things up to suit your own ridiculous story.

I know exactly when the refs lost their minds - halftime. Go watch the game again. Your myopic desire to only look at one play is ridiculous.

My point in bringing up the 3 games that were in the grasp of flipping an L to a W was simply to prove that before Percy Harvin was traded for, the Seahawks were poised to be better than 11-5 (they were 2 defensive stands and a dropped TD, all inside 2 minutes of the final tick, from being 14-2). Now that he's injured, there's no reason to change that widely-held opinion. Outside of the Harvin deal, the Seahawks picked up 3 solid defensive veterans and lost only a few role players. I never claimed that the Seahawks deserved to win those games or anything like that, just that had they been slightly better, 14-2 was there for the taking. The additions of Avril, Bennett & Winfield alone could be that difference considering that at least 2 of the losses were directly the result of a bad defensive drive. Is Harvin a dynamic, game-changer kind of player? Definitely. Is he alone the difference between a potential SB run and not making the playoffs? Not even close. The 'Hawks still have Wilson, Lynch, Miller, Rice, Tate, Sherman, Thomas, Okung, Unger, Chancellor, Clemons, Wagner, Winfield, Avril, Bennett, Bryant, Browner, etc.

js34603:Shame Us: homarjr: Shame Us: Super Chronic: whizbangthedirtfarmer: 3) everyone is worked up over Harvin's injury, but Seattle did fine without him previously

I'm still kinda worked up about it, I guess because "fine" isn't the standard I'm setting for this team now. Harvin was going to be the player to put them over the top. The offense was good and at times great in the second half of last season but in a competent, moving-the-chains kind of way. Harvin was going to be that guy who changes games and makes the team win games they otherwise have no business winning, like Victor Cruz... the difference between 11-5 with a wild card berth and 13-3 with home field through the playoffs.

They scored 150 pts over 3 games, including 42 against SF. Wilson tied Peyton Manning's record for most TDs passes by a rookie QB.

The Seahawks should have been 13-3 at least last season. Braylon Edwards dropped the game-winning TD in AZ Week 1 and the defense didn't hold on the final drive in Detroit or Miami. With the additions made outside of Harvin this offseason (Winfield, Avril, Bennett) and the progression of a ton of young players (Lane, Thurmond, Wilson, Wagner, Wright, Irvin, etc.) I'd bet this team is still extremely capable of a season that would put them in the #1 or #2 seed.

You "what if" scenario is hilarious for not including the Green Bay game.

Went 11-5, should have easily won 3 more (14-2). If we include the GB game (13-3) if you concede that GBs TD drive was any better officiated than the Seahawks winning TD. The Packers were gifted a 1st on 3rd and long by a phantom PI call. Not to mention the blatant holds that went uncalled on that drive. The entire 2nd half of that game was an officiating abortion. All we know for sure is that Seattle was ahead 7-6 before the ref's brains started leaking out their ears. Either way, you're wrong.

They should have easily been 16-0. Those other teams had a lot of nerve interrupting the Seahawks' perfect season. They would have ...

Shame Us:js34603: Shame Us: homarjr: Shame Us: Super Chronic: whizbangthedirtfarmer: 3) everyone is worked up over Harvin's injury, but Seattle did fine without him previously

I'm still kinda worked up about it, I guess because "fine" isn't the standard I'm setting for this team now. Harvin was going to be the player to put them over the top. The offense was good and at times great in the second half of last season but in a competent, moving-the-chains kind of way. Harvin was going to be that guy who changes games and makes the team win games they otherwise have no business winning, like Victor Cruz... the difference between 11-5 with a wild card berth and 13-3 with home field through the playoffs.

They scored 150 pts over 3 games, including 42 against SF. Wilson tied Peyton Manning's record for most TDs passes by a rookie QB.

The Seahawks should have been 13-3 at least last season. Braylon Edwards dropped the game-winning TD in AZ Week 1 and the defense didn't hold on the final drive in Detroit or Miami. With the additions made outside of Harvin this offseason (Winfield, Avril, Bennett) and the progression of a ton of young players (Lane, Thurmond, Wilson, Wagner, Wright, Irvin, etc.) I'd bet this team is still extremely capable of a season that would put them in the #1 or #2 seed.

You "what if" scenario is hilarious for not including the Green Bay game.

Went 11-5, should have easily won 3 more (14-2). If we include the GB game (13-3) if you concede that GBs TD drive was any better officiated than the Seahawks winning TD. The Packers were gifted a 1st on 3rd and long by a phantom PI call. Not to mention the blatant holds that went uncalled on that drive. The entire 2nd half of that game was an officiating abortion. All we know for sure is that Seattle was ahead 7-6 before the ref's brains started leaking out their ears. Either way, you're wrong.

They should have easily been 16-0. Those other teams had a lot of nerve interrupting the Seahawks' perfect season. They would have ...

Comprehension is hard.

What's easy is talking about how many games you totally would have won if things had just gone a different way. Every team easily would have won more games if things went different. Seattle isn't special in that, unless you count having fans so delusional as to think that actually matters.