Because Allah Almighty created every human being unique and different, our
physical bodies vary. Yet, in regards to the minimum physical requirements
or age for marriage, for both males and females, Allah Almighty had laid it out
beautifully for us in the Holy Quran.

1-
Children must reach ashuddah (full strength and growth) and adulthood:

Ashuddah in Arabic is derived from the root word shadeed, which means mighty
and powerful. Allah Almighty referred to iron as shadeed
(having mighty power) in
Noble Verse 57:25. Let us look at what Allah Almighty Said
regarding children reaching their full strength and growth:

Noble Verse(s) 22:5

Yusuf
Ali:

[022:005] O mankind! if ye have a doubt about the
Resurrection, (consider) that We created you out of dust, then out of
sperm, then out of a leech-like clot, then out of a morsel of flesh,
partly formed and partly unformed, in order that We may manifest (our
power) to you; and We cause whom We will to rest in the wombs for an
appointed term, then do We bring you out as babes, then
(foster you) that ye may reach your age of full strength;
and some of you are called to die, and some are sent back to the
feeblest old age, so that they know nothing after having known (much),
and (further), thou seest the earth barren and lifeless, but when We
pour down rain on it, it is stirred (to life), it swells, and it puts
forth every kind of beautiful growth (in pairs).

[040:067] It is He Who has created you from dust then from a
sperm-drop, then from a leech-like clot; then does he get you out (into
the light) as a child:
then lets you (grow and) reach your age of full strength;
then lets you become old,- though of you there are some who die before;-
and lets you reach a Term appointed; in order that ye may learn wisdom.

[006:152] And come not nigh to the orphan's property, except
to improve it, until he attain the age of full
strength; give measure and weight with (full)
justice;- no burden do We place on any soul, but that which it can
bear;- whenever ye speak, speak justly, even if a near relative is
concerned; and fulfil the covenant of God: thus doth He command you,
that ye may remember.

[017:034] Come not nigh to the orphan's property except to
improve it, until he attains the age of full
strength; and fulfil (every) engagement, for (every)
engagement will be enquired into (on the Day of Reckoning).

[046:015] We have enjoined on man kindness to his parents:
In pain did his mother bear him, and in pain did she give him birth. The
carrying of the (child) to his weaning is (a period of) thirty months.
At length, when he reaches the age of full
strength and attains forty years, he says, "O my Lord!
Grant me that I may be grateful for Thy favour which Thou has bestowed
upon me, and upon both my parents, and that I may work righteousness
such as Thou mayest approve; and be gracious to me in my issue. Truly
have I turned to Thee and truly do I bow (to Thee) in Islam."

So here we clearly and indisputably see Allah Almighty distinguishing between
a helpless child
and a growing human who reaches his full strength.

2-
Children reaching the "age of marriage" in Noble Verse 4:6:

Noble Verse(s) 4:6

Yusuf
Ali:

[004:006] Make trial of orphans until they
reach the age of marriage; if then ye find
sound
judgment in them, release their property to them;
but consume it not wastefully, nor in haste against their growing up. If
the guardian is well-off, Let him claim no remuneration, but if he is
poor, let him have for himself what is just and reasonable. When ye
release their property to them, take witnesses in their presence: But
all-sufficient is God in taking account.

[004:025] If any of you have not the means wherewith to wed
free believing women, they
may wed believing girls from among those whom your right
hands possess: And God hath full knowledge about your faith. Ye are one
from another: Wed them with the leave of their owners, and give them
their dowers, according to what is reasonable: They should be chaste,
not lustful, nor taking paramours: when they are taken in wedlock, if
they fall into shame, their punishment is half that for free women. This
(permission) is for those among you who fear sin; but it is better for
you that ye practise self-restraint. And God is Oft-Forgiving, Most
Merciful.

A girl starts out being a child طفلة.
This is further proven in Noble Verses 22:5 and
40:67 above (طفلا
child). Then she becomes a fataat فتاة
, which is what فتياتكم
(your young ladies) is derived from in Noble Verse 4:25.

Clearly, Allah Almighty never allowed
marriage with a طفلة
child!

Furthermore, Allah Almighty Said:

Noble Verse(s) 24:59

Yusuf
Ali:

[024:059] But when the children among you
come of age, let them (also) ask for permission, as do
those senior to them (in age): Thus does God make clear His Signs to
you: for God is full of knowledge and wisdom.

الاطفال (children) is a plural, and it is derived from
طفل (child), which is singular.
الحلم,
which is translated as "come of age", literally
means when the child knows about sex. For boys, it also means that when he
experiences his first ejaculation either in his sleep or through masturbation.

So clearly again, Allah Almighty differentiated between the children and
the teenagers.

4-
Wisdom and Knowledge from Allah Almighty came after ashuddah:

Noble Verse(s) 12:22

Yusuf
Ali:

[012:022] When Joseph attained His full
manhood, We gave him power and knowledge: thus do We
reward those who do right.

Arabic (from right to left):

‏12:22ولما بلغ اشده اتيناه حكما وعلما
وكذلك نجزي المحسنين

Noble Verse(s) 28:14

Yusuf
Ali:

[028:014] When he reached full age, and
was firmly established (in life), We bestowed on him wisdom and
knowledge: for thus do We reward those who do good.

Arabic (from right to left):

‏28:14ولما
بلغ اشده واستوى اتيناه حكما وعلما وكذلك نجزي المحسنين

So here again, wisdom and knowledge, which are essential for survival in
life, start coming after the child reaches his/her age of strength and growth to a point
where he/she can now start looking towards becoming independent and take
responsibility for him/herself. Now of course, the best age for having the
best Wisdom is the age of 40:

"We have enjoined on man kindness to his parents: In
pain did his mother bear him, and in pain did she give him birth. The carrying
of the (child) to his weaning is (a period of) thirty months. At length,
when he reaches the age of full strength and
attains forty years,
he says, 'O my Lord! Grant me that I may be grateful for Thy favour which Thou
has bestowed upon me, and upon both my parents, and that I may work
righteousness such as Thou mayest approve; and be gracious to me in my issue.
Truly have I turned to Thee and truly do I bow (to Thee) in Islam.' (The Noble Quran, 46:15)"

And of course, there are always those who are cursed by Allah Almighty and
never receive neither Guidance nor Wisdom:

"Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not
return (to the path). (The Noble Quran, 2:18)"

"The parable of those who reject Faith is as if one
were to shout Like a goat- herd, to things that listen to nothing but calls and
cries: Deaf, dumb, and blind, they are void of wisdom.
(The Noble Quran, 2:171)"

"It is he whom God guides, that is on true Guidance;
but he whom He leaves astray - for such wilt thou find no protector besides Him.
On the Day of Judgment We shall gather, them together, prone on their faces, blind, dumb, and deaf: their abode will be Hell: every time it shows
abatement, We shall increase from them the fierceness of the Fire. (The Noble Quran, 17:97)"

5-
What about Prophet Muhammad's marriage with 9-year old Aisha?

Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, is said to have been 53 years old
when he married our mother in Islam Aisha, who is said to have been 6 years
old before consummation of marriage, and 9 years old after the
consummation. This shouldn't be surprising because:

1- It was culturally acceptable back then and
even today in also non-Muslim countries, and it was Aisha's parents who
married her to our Prophet.

But still, how is Aisha's age in agreement with the
Noble Quran above?

Many practices and laws were abrogated by the Holy Quran. It is quite
possible that the Holy Quran mentioned these Laws after the marriage of Prophet
Muhammad to our mother in Islam, Aisha, peace be upon him and her. This
shouldn't be a surprise because the marriage happened
during the early days of Islam.

So certainly, when one wishes to either marry his daughter to a man or when a
man wishes to marry a young girl, then in both cases, the father and/or the
husband must take into consideration the Noble Verses that I mentioned above,
because these are Laws that Allah Almighty had put.

6-
What about Noble Verse 65:4? Does it not allow marriage with children?

I was asked the following question by a Christian named
Sepher Shalom:

He wrote:

Osama,

Since you have very clearly quoted numerous verses from the Quran, and thus
appealed to it as your source for rules about marriage [as I would expect any
good Muslim to do], please comment on the following that you may have overlooked
before:

65:4 - Hilali-Khan trans. - "And those of your women as have passed the age of
monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubts
(about their periods), is three months, and for those who have no courses (i.e. they are still immature)
their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise, except in case of
death]. And for those who are pregnant (whether they are divorced or their
husbands are dead), their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is until they deliver
(their burdens), and whosoever fears Allâh and keeps his duty to Him, He will
make his matter easy for him."

"Therefore, making mention of the waiting-period for girls
who have not yet menstruated,
clearly proves that it is not only permissible to give away the girl at
this age but it is permissible for the
husband to consummate marriage with her. Now, obviously no Muslim
has the right to forbid a thing which the Qur’an has held as permissible."
(Maududi vol.5 p.620)

Considering all of the above information, Osama, I have one simple question for
you and wonder if you will answer: Do you believe it is your right as a
Muslim to marry a prepubescent girl?

My response:

Sepher,

Here are what Noble Verses 65:1,4 say in English
and Arabic:

(The Name of the Surah (Chapter) is "THE DIVORCE")

Noble Verse(s) 65:1

Yusuf
Ali:

[065:001] O Prophet! When ye do divorce women,
divorce them at their prescribed periods, and count
(accurately), their prescribed periods: And fear God your Lord: and turn
them not out of their houses, nor shall they (themselves) leave, except
in case they are guilty of some open lewdness, those are limits set by
God: and any who transgresses the limits of God, does verily wrong his
(own) soul: thou knowest not if perchance God will bring about
thereafter some new situation.

[065:004] Such of your women as have passed the age of
monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts,
is three months, and for those who have no
courses (it is the same): for those who carry (life within their
wombs), their period is until they deliver their burdens: and
for those who fear God, He will make their path easy.

The Noble Verses are clearly speaking about divorce of women, and
there are three categories of
those women:

1- Women who are very old.

2- Women who have not had their monthly period at
the time of the divorce.

3- Women who are pregnant at the time of the
divorce.

For point #2, it doesn't necessarily have to mean that the woman was a young
girl. To me, it is clearly talking about the wife not having her period
yet when the divorce happened. Women on average have 10 days of
menstruation each month. Point #2 is speaking about the
20 other days.

As to my opinion, the scholars' interpretations are sometimes partial.
They do not cover the latter Laws that came to abrogate the current Laws that
they're commenting on. This
misleads the reader.

As to the menstruation and the minimum age for marriage, I am not sure if the girl having her first period is the
line that determines when she can get married or not. The ample
Holy Verses that I quoted in this article are clear about:

1- INFANTS
2- BABIES
3- AND CHILDREN
4- And even incapable teenagers who are not fully grown up based on what the
current life requires

not being allowed to get married. The Holy Quran spells it out, and I
challenge anyone to disprove it (Muslim or none).

Osama said: "For point #2, it doesn't necessarily
have to mean that the woman was a young girl. To me, it is clearly talking about
the wife not having her period yet when the divorce happened."Maududi said:
""Therefore, making mention of the waiting-period for girls who have not yet
menstruated, clearly proves that it is not only permissible to give away the
girl at this age but it is permissible for the husband to consummate marriage
with her. Now, obviously no Muslim has the right to forbid a thing which the
Qur’an has held as permissible." (Maududi vol.5 p.620)

Al-Jalalayn said: "And [as for] those of your women who (read allā’ī or
allā’i in both instances) no longer expect to menstruate, if you have any
doubts, about their waiting period, their prescribed [waiting] period shall be
three months, and [also for] those who have not yet menstruated,
because of their young age,
their period shall [also] be three months — both cases apply to other than those
whose spouses have died; for these [latter] their period is prescribed in the
verse: they shall wait by themselves for four months and ten [days] [Q. 2:234].
"Ibn Abbas said: "(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation)
because of old age, (if ye doubt) about their waiting period, (their period (of
waiting) shall be three months) upon which another man asked: “O Messenger of
Allah! What about the waiting period
of those who do not have menstruation because they are too young?”
(along with those who have it not) because of young age, their waiting period
is three months."Al Wahidi said: "Abu Ishaq al-Muqri’ informed us>
Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allah ibn Hamdun> Makki ibn ‘Abdan> Abu’l-Azhar> Asbat ibn
Muhammad> Mutarrif> Abu ‘Uthman ‘Amr ibn Salim who said: “When the waiting
period for divorced and widowed women was mentioned in Surah al-Baqarah, Ubayy
ibn Ka‘b said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, some women of Medina are saying: there are
other women who have not been mentioned!’ He asked him: ‘And who are they?’
He said: ‘Those who are too young
[such that they have not started menstruating yet], those who are too
old [whose menstruation has stopped] and those who are pregnant’. And so this
verse (And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) was
revealed”Ibn Kathir said: "Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting
period of the woman in menopause. And that is the one whose menstruation has
stopped due to her older age. Her `Iddah is three months instead of the three
monthly cycles for those who menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in (Surat)
Al-Baqarah. [see 2:228] The same for the young, who have not reached the
years of menstruation. Their `Iddah is three months like those in menopause.
This is the meaning of His saying;(and for those who have no courses...)"Let's
see.... Al-Jalalayn, Ibn Abbas, Maududi, Al-Wahidi, Ibn Kathir, all agree
that this Ayah is talking about the waiting period for girls taken as wives that
do not yet menstruate.

Osama, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say confidently that you are
not correct :-D

My response:

Sepher,

Like I said, I am not sure if the girl having her first period makes her
legitimate for marriage or not. It is not clearly defined in Islam. Some
girls do get their first periods later than others. So the period is not
the issue. It is rather the physical and mental capabilities of the girl
that Allah Almighty clearly talked about in the Holy Quran. I've provided TONS
OF NOBLE VERSES and points that prove this in this article.
So even if the girl gets her first period, she still may
not be qualified for marriage.

As to the tafaseer (interpretations) that you provided, they remain limited
to their authors. They are not part of the Noble Quran. They are
only interpretations and personal opinions of the Mufassireen (interpreters),
and the Hadiths therein are either:

1- Fabrications and lies that were put on the
mouths of the companions and the Prophet as many false hadiths were exposed.
Notice the long chain of narrators that your source presented:

Another important point that I did also address in the article is that
my Noble Verses seem to have abrogated the Hadiths (Sayings of Prophet Muhammad)
and Sunnah (Ways of Prophet Muhammad) that you have just mentioned, Sepher.
Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, married our Mother in Islam, Aisha, during
the EARLY DAYS OF ISLAM.
The Noble Verses that I gave came much much later. So even if the
interpretations that you gave are valid, they're still abrogated.

First of all, I have spent a great deal of time being "critical" of the Bible. I
was an agnostic/borderline atheist for a number of years. Secondly, as a
Nazarene Jew I am critical of a number of issues with mainstream
Christianity and some of the inconsistencies therein.

Thirdly, it your sexually obsessed mind that has created the interpretation of
the verses you mention. There is nothing in that passage that suggests the girls
are for sexual pleasure. One not need to look any further than this blog in order to ascertain that you
have perverse leanings in your thinking. Fourthly, as usual you liberally season
your post with off-topic attacks in order to divert the subject of discussion,
which I am not interested in entertaining.

Now as to your question about Biblical marriage, the parable given in Ezekiel 16
makes it very clear that full physical maturity is the appropriate age for
marriage. Not only that, the parable can only be functional because it
presupposes that the audience was easily familiar with proper customs of
marriage age. The same is illustrated in Song of Songs ch. 8 [as Hogan already
mentioned]. And again, Biblical marriage condemns the practice of giving a girl
in marriage and then waiting for her to mature, like Muhammad did with Aisha.
Rather, the marriage is to take place when the wife is physically mature.
Consummation and the legal aspect of taking in marriage occur together. Marriage
is where a man and woman leave their parents and become echad in the
great mystery of physical union. This is not properly expressed by the duality
of a "contract" and then consummation some years later. And as I mentioned
previously, in Biblical Hebraic culture giving a young virgin to a much older
man is considered a shameful act, so Muhammad and Aisha's parents are seen as
shameful on that account. On top of that, the Brit Chadasha ("New Testament")
commands us to abide by the secular laws where we live. Hence, the proper
Halachic ruling for me is that I can marry a woman who is 18. What you fail to
understand, Osama, is that when Yeshua and His Talmidim gave us Halacha, it was
given into a world that was run by a foreign secular government. Not only that,
but Yeshua [and the testimony of the Tanach prophets] reveals in no uncertain
terms that the reign of the Gentiles will persist until Mashiyach return to
earth and establishes His Kingdom. Much of what you see as "Christians having no
law or guidance" is because the Messiah was directing us in a manner by which we
could be salt spread amongst all the governments of the earth, to proclaim the
Gospel without becoming some sort of political revolutionary force seeking to
overthrow secular governments [Gee, does anyone here know an example of a
religion that is designed to overthrow and supplant existing
governments?].

The main issue is, however, that you are either accidentally or intentionally
mischaracterizing my position. I am not attempting to prove the Biblical
standard is superior to the Islamic [although I believe it is]. Rather, I am
simply demonstrating that a Biblical view of marriage not only condemns the
marriage of Muhammad to Aisha, but it condemns the whole Sunnah practice of
Muslim men copying his behavior in this matter today. I assert this position
because it seems quite clear that you have this idea in your head that there is
no limitation on age based on the Bible.

As has also been shown by your own Islamic scholars,
the Islamic Sunnah
tradition allows for marriage before puberty. I have sufficiently demonstrated
that a number of the greatest and most respected early Islamic exegetes disagree
with your position and support mine. You have stated your Tafseer of the
Ayah I posted, I provided Tafseers of; Al Jalalayn, Ibn Abbas, Maududi, and Ibn
Kathir whom all disagree with you and agree with me.

When it comes to Islam I trust their scholarship over and above that of Osama
Abdallah any day.

My response:

"Thirdly, it your sexually obsessed mind that has created the interpretation of
the verses you mention."

My response:

Quoting your Bible's commands about killing all of the boys and all of the
non-virgin girls and killing all of the men, and keeping the virgin girls for
sexual pleasure does not make me sexually obsessed. Let's keep the worthless
cheap shots out and stick to facts:

"Now as to your question about Biblical marriage, the parable given in Ezekiel
16 makes it very clear that full physical maturity is the appropriate age for
marriage. Not only that, the parable can only be functional because it
presupposes that the audience was easily familiar with proper customs of
marriage age. The same is illustrated in Song of Songs ch. 8 [as Hogan already
mentioned]."

Song of Songs 8:1,2,81 If only you were to me like a brother, who was nursed at my mother's breasts!
Then, if I found you outside, I would kiss you, and no one would despise me.
2 I would lead you and bring you to my mother's house— she who has taught me. I
would give you spiced wine to drink, the nectar of my pomegranates.
8 We have a young sister, and her breasts are not yet grown. What shall we do
for our sister for the day she is spoken for?

As to verse 8, not only it doesn't say anything and it further exposes
your desperation, but it is also not a Law.

Another important point to note is that both Ezekiel and Song of Songs
CAME
1000S OF YEARS AFTER THE MOSAIC LAW. So what law are you talking about??

"And as I mentioned previously, in Biblical Hebraic culture giving a young
virgin to a much older man is considered a shameful act, so Muhammad and Aisha's
parents are seen as shameful on that account."

My response:

That couldn't be any more absurd and false. In the Mosaic Law and throughout the
Bible, A FATHER CAN EVEN SELL HIS DAUGHTER AS A SLAVE GIRL to any man, even men
as old as her grandfather:

Exodus 21:7-117. "If a man sells his daughter as a female slave, she is not to go free as the
male slaves do.
8. "If she is displeasing in the eyes of her master who designated her for
himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He does not have authority to sell
her to a foreign people because of his unfairness to her.
9. "If he designates her for his son [Note: "his son" means that the master is
either her father's age or even much older!], he shall deal with her according
to the custom of daughters.
10. "If he takes to himself another woman, he may not reduce her food, her
clothing, or her conjugal rights.
11. "If he will not do these three things for her, then she shall go out for
nothing, without payment of money.

"The main issue is, however, that you are either accidentally or intentionally
mischaracterizing my position. I am not attempting to prove the Biblical
standard is superior to the Islamic [although I believe it is]."

My response:

Is selling your daughter as a slave girl, and raping virgin girls and killing
all of the non-virgin girls, boys and men morally higher to you?

"As has also been shown by your own Islamic scholars, the Islamic Sunnah
tradition allows for marriage before puberty. I have sufficiently demonstrated
that a number of the greatest and most respected early Islamic exegetes disagree
with your position and support mine. You have stated your Tafseer of the Ayah I
posted, I provided Tafseers of; Al Jalalayn, Ibn Abbas, Maududi, and Ibn Kathir
whom all disagree with you and agree with me.

When it comes to Islam I trust their scholarship over and above that of Osama
Abdallah any day."

My response:

A scholar could comment all he wants on a Hadith. But if he doesn't take into
account the development of newer Laws that came to replace it, then his
explanation is partial.

Prophet Muhammad's, peace be upon him, marriage with our Mother Aisha, peace
be upon her, happened
during the early days of Islam. The Noble Verses that I provided were Revealed
much much later. The Noble Verses clearly state:

1- INFANTS
2- BABIES
3- CHILDREN
4- And even incapable teenagers who are not fully grown up based on what the
current life requires

ARE NOT PERMITTED TO MARRY.

Marriage is not
a joke in Islam! It is very sacred; so sacred that even the
mature male adult is forbidden from marrying multiple women
if he knows that
he won't be able to be just with them or if the judge sees that he
won't be fair and that he has evil intentions that are displeasing to Allah
Almighty and are violating to the Islamic Law (Ex: Marrying with the
fixed intention of divorce prior to the marriage).
Islam does not permit carelessness and irresponsibility in
marriage, because through marriage the Muslim society's new generation is
made. And marriage itself is not an easy burden for an individual to bear.
Plus, it is a lifetime commitment. And as you know, polygamy is allowed in
Islam, but for some cases, it is not. And the same thing with
any of the children that I just mentioned above. You can't just marry
them off! They're too helpless! Sin would then be upon you if
you do, because you would then be both careless and irresponsible, along with
perhaps being a brainless robot who proclaims to be following the "Sunnah" of
Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, while violating the Commands of Allah
Almighty in the Noble Quran.

Also, it is important to mention that there is strong evidence that proves
that our Mother Aisha, may Allah Almighty be pleased with her,
was much older
than 9 when she married our Prophet! I personally favor this
evidence NOT BECAUSE I am ashamed. No, I am not ashamed of
anything my Beloved and Blessed Prophet did. But since Aisha is recorded
to have narrated 1000s upon 1000s of Hadiths
on the Prophet of Islam, peace be upon him, then this clearly suggests to me
that the lady was far older than any child or teenager! Or, she simply was
much older than her actual age. Either way:

1- Her marriage to the Prophet
happened during the early days of Islam while the Noble Verses that I gave came much much later.

2- Her marriage does not justify
marrying off helpless children today, unless one chooses to be a brainless robot
and a violator of the Direct Commands of Allah Almighty in the ample Noble
Verses that I provided in this article.

3-Even if she was 9, she was still married
to the Prophet! The Prophet was known to have Blessing Powers
and Miracles that were given to him by Allah Almighty. Assuming that Aisha
was 9, her overwhelming ability to remember and narrate 1000s upon 1000s of the Prophet's Sayings
testifies to this. Children today, on the other hand, would be married off
to ordinary people. So it is still not fair at all to the helpless
children, nor is it allowed in the ample Noble Verses that I gave in this
article.

The fact that you continue to avoid addressing the Noble Verses that I
provided shows clearly that you have lost this debate.

Another important point to mention is that:
The overwhelming majority of all Muslims along with many many Muslim scholars,
world-wide, all agree that marriage with any of the children that I just
mentioned above is forbidden in
Islam. And again, the Noble Verses that I gave in this article
clearly prove that our position is absolutely right.

Even IF she was 18, Muhammad was still 53 years old when they married. That's
STILL 35 YEARS!

But it is overwhelmingly obvious that Aisha was 9 years old. As you know this is
SAHEEH, SAHEEH, SAHEEH. I
and any reasonable Muslim accept the words of Bukhari, Muslim, and others, and
so should you.

My response:

Note: SAHEEH means authentic in Arabic.

Faktb,

Bukhari is not the Holy Quran. Like the Bible, it contains
falsehood in it. It also contains ample and ample Truth in it.
But there are absurdities in Bukhari that clearly prove that the volume does
contains falsehood in it. For example, the narration about the
she-monkey who
committed adultery and the monkeys were stoning her and the guy
who narrated it said that he helped them in stoning her. This is not a
Hadith. It is a narration by someone; a story by him, and he must've
BEEN DRUNK when he said it! Yet, we find it in Bukhari.

Similarly, the narrations about Aisha being 6 and then 9 are narrations and
not Hadiths (Sayings of Prophet Muhammad). Therefore, there is always a
possibility of them being false. And even if they were Hadiths, the
possibility is still there.

Anyway, in this article I have addressed both possibilities and still proved
beyond the shadow of a doubt that:

1- INFANTS
2- BABIES
3- CHILDREN
4- Even teenagers who are not fully grown up yet and aren't ready to take on
life

ARE NOT PERMITTED TO MARRY.
I've provided ample Noble Verses that prove this, and these Noble Verses came
much much later.

So far no one dared to address the Noble Verses that I gave in this article.
Why is that??

Osama said: ”The Noble Quran is crystal clear about
it. Girls who have not become "fatayat"
(young ladies) and ready to be "wed" (4:25) and have not "reached the age of
marriage" (4:6) to enable them to take on life are not permitted to
get married. Other Noble Verses that clearly prohibit for infants and babies and
little boys and girls to get married are: 22:5, 40:67, 6:152, 17:34, 46:15,
4:6, 4:25, 24:59, 12:22, 28:14.”

Osama said: ” SO FAR NO ONE DARED TO ADDRESS THE
NOBLE VERSES THAT I GAVE! Why is that??”

Never fear. The time is at hand. Well Osama, since the
topic we are disputing is the proper age of marriage for females in Islam, let’s
unpack these verses that you claim are some sort of undeniable proof and see
what they say. I hope David nor Nabeel nor any of the other blog readers are
off-put by the number of posts this will require.

4:6 “Make trial of orphans until they reach the age of
marriage; if then ye find sound judgment in them, release their property to
them; but consume it not wastefully, nor in haste against their growing up. If
the guardian is well-off, Let him claim no remuneration, but if he is poor, let
him have for himself what is just and reasonable. When ye release their property
to them, take witnesses in their presence: But all-sufficient is Allah in taking
account.”

As you can plainly see this verse is about orphans.
It mentions the “age of marriage” but it does not describe when this is, or
give any criteria for determining how to know this age has been reached. Here is
the really funny thing. This verse is
about MALES not females, and how the male orphans are to be given
wealth. Al Wahidi tells exactly why this verse was revealed in his Tafseer:

“(Prove orphans…) [4:6]. This was revealed
about Thabit ibn Rifa‘ah and his uncle. Rifa‘ah died when his son Thabit was
very young. The uncle of Thabit went to the Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him
and give him peace, and said: “The son of my brother is an orphan under my care,
what is lawful for me from his wealth? And when should I give him back his
wealth?” And so Allah, exalted is He, revealed this verse.” - Tafseer of Al
Wahidi

There is
nothing at all about females nor the rules about when they can be
given in marriage in this verse. Both the plain reading of the verse and Tafseer
prove this.

My response:

This has got to be the most absurd and ridiculous argument you have
presented thus far! First of all, Al-Wahidi never said that this verse is
about males only. Maybe one of the reasons why this Noble Verse came down
was to address a certain issue for a certain male among other social reasons.
But this, by no means, limits the Noble Verse to males only.

The Arabic word
اليتامى is plural, and even the least
speakers of Arabic would tell you that it includes both males and females.
The fact that we are even arguing this point proves that you are indeed
bankrupt and refuted!

Furthermore, the "reach the age of marriage"
here is not limited to the orphans alone. The orphans are the case that
the Noble Verse is addressing, but anyone with the least brain would easily see
that "reach the age of marriage" is speaking about
the age that when the orphans reach.

Moreover, what you utterly missed from the point in
Noble Verse 4:6 above is:

1- When the orphans finally reach the age of
marriage.

2- And you see good judgment in them.

3- Then release to them their inheritance that
you have kept.

Does this sound like a Noble Verse that allows for

1- INFANTS
2- BABIES
3- CHILDREN
4- And even teenagers who are not fully grown up yet and aren't ready to take on
life

to be allowed to get married?
To a bankrupted and desperate person like you, yes it does.

Does this Noble Verse sound like it referred to any of the children that I
just mentioned when It Said "reach the age of marriage"?
Again, to a bankrupted and desperate person like you, yes it does.

He wrote:

4:25 “If any of you have not the means wherewith to wed
free believing women, they may wed
believing girls (fatayatikum فتياتكم)
from among those whom your right hands possess:
And Allah hath full knowledge about your faith. Ye are one from another: Wed
them with the leave of their owners, and give them their dowers, according to
what is reasonable: They should be chaste, not lustful, nor taking paramours:
when they are taken in wedlock, if they fall into shame, their punishment is
half that for free women. This (permission) is for those among you who fear sin;
but it is better for you that ye practise self-restraint. And Allah is
Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.”

This verse gives Muslim permission to take wives from
amongst their slaves, or the slaves of other Muslims [but it seems to restrict
them to “believing” slaves]. Not one
single Tafseer I could find says anything about this verse describing age or any
physical trait that determines when a female becomes legal for marriage.
Here is what Ibn Abbas had to say:

“(And whoso is not able to afford to marry free,
believing women, let them marry from the believing maids whom your right hands
possess) who are in the hands of the believers. (Allah knoweth best (concerning)
your faith) He knows best that your hearts are firm in faith. (Ye (proceed) one
from another) You are all the children of Adam; it is also said that this means:
some of you follow the religion of others; and it is also said that this means:
you are strengthened by one another; (so wed them) marry the maids (by
permission of their folk) their owners, (and give unto them) the maids (their
portions) their dowry (in kindness) on top of the price given to the prostitute
for providing sex,….” [Ibn Abbas]

Once again, this verse has absolutely nothing to do
with the topic at hand.

My response:

Again, like your bankrupted arguments above, the Arabic word for
"girls" is فتياتكم . In the first section
above, I provided the Noble Verses where Allah Almighty talked about when we are
children (طفلا), and then when we grow
up and reach our strength (يبلغاشده)
. The fact that Allah Almighty Commanded in Noble
Verse 4:25 to marry from the (فتيا),
young ladies or teenage girls, who are much older than the
(طفلا)
, clearly proves that Allah Almighty clearly and indesputably Commanded the
Muslims to marry at the very least (فتيا)
from the females, and not children (طفلا).

This again and again proves that:

1- INFANTS
2- BABIES
3- CHILDREN
4- Even teenagers who are not fully grown up yet and aren't ready to take on
life

ARE NOT PERMITTED TO MARRY,
especially when we read this Noble Verse in the Light of the other ample Noble
Verses that I gave in this article.

Point refuted.

He wrote:

22:5 “O mankind! if ye are in doubt concerning the
Resurrection, then lo! We have created you from dust, then from a drop of seed,
then from a clot, then from a little lump of flesh shapely and shapeless, that
We may make (it) clean for you. And We cause what We will to remain in the wombs
for an appointed time, and afterward We bring you forth as infants (طفلا),
then (give you growth) that ye attain your full strength. And
among you there is he who dieth (young), and among you there is he who is
brought back to the most abject time of life, so that, after knowledge, he
knoweth naught. And thou (Muhammad) seest the earth barren, but when We send
down water thereon, it doth thrill and swell and put forth every lovely kind (of
growth).”

This verse is about the formation of a human, growth
into adulthood, and death. I don’t even think anyone needs to see a Tafseer to
know that this verse has nothing to do with marriage age for females in Islam.
Nevertheless, here is what Al Jalalayn had to say:

“O mankind, in other words, [O] people of Mecca, if you
are in doubt about the Resurrection, then lo! [consider that] We have created
you, that is, [We have created] your origin — Adam — from dust then, We created
his progeny, from a drop, a sperm-drop, then from a clot, congealed blood, then
from a [little] lump of flesh (mudgha), a piece of flesh, the size of what one
would [be able to] chew (mā yumdagh), ….then We bring you forth, from the
bellies of your mothers, as infants, and then, We extend your life, that you may
come of age (ashuddakum), that is to say, [your] prime and strength, which is
[that age] between thirty and forty years. And there are some of you who are
taken away, by death…”

40:67 “He it is Who created you from dust, then from a
drop (of seed) then from a clot, then
bringeth you forth as a child (طفلا),
then (ordaineth) that ye attain full strength and afterward that ye become old
men though some among you die before and that ye reach an appointed term, that
haply ye may understand.”

This verse is basically a restating of 22:5. It’s about
formation of a human, growth into adulthood, and death. The Tafseer is also
pretty much a repetition. Here it is:

“He it is Who created you from dust, by having created
your father Adam from it, then from a drop [of sperm], then from a blood-clot,
congealed blood, then He brings you forth as infants, then, He sustains you,
that you may come of age, [until you have attained] your full strength — [this
being] from the age of thirty to forty — then that you may become aged (read
shuyūkhan or shiyūkhan)— though there are some of you who die earlier….” [Al
Jalalayn]

My response:

I understand that the Holy Verses are about the formation of man in the womb.
But what you entirely and miserably missed is that the
(طفلا),
infants, was never used in the Holy Quran for allowing marriage. I
used it to bring out and distinguish between the Key Words in the Holy Verses
that I gave above and to further prove to the reader that the Noble Quran does
indeed distinguish between the different "children". Today, an 18-year
old minus 1 day is still a child and is the same as a 1-day old child!
The Noble Quran rejects this faulty and unjust equality in age and status.

Again, point soundly refuted.

He wrote:

6:152 “And approach not the wealth of the orphan save
with that which is better;till he reach maturity (يبلغ
اشده).
Give full measure and full weight, in justice. We task not any soul beyond its
scope. And if ye give your word, do justice thereunto, even though it be
(against) a kinsman; and fulfil the covenant of Allah. This He commandeth you
that haply ye may remember.”

This verse is a near repetition of 4:6, and is about
orphans and monetary endowments. It has nothing to do with the age in which
a female can be given in marriage. On top of that, this verse is about male
orphans.

Tafseer Ibn Abbas – “(And approach not the wealth of
the orphan save with that which is better) through protecting it and making it
grow; (till HE reach maturity) legal age and shows righteousness
in HIS character…..”

Tafseer Al Jalalayn – “And that you do not approach the
property of the orphan save with that, approach, which is fairer, namely, the
one wherein lie HIS best interests, until HE is of
age…”

My response:

The Noble Verse is not talking about males only. The Tafseers that you
quoted above are not saying that the Noble Verse is about males only. The
reference to the orphan (singular) is
done in a masculine form. Similar references by the 1000s exist
virtually in all of earth's languages, including English! Here are few
examples:

1- When I want to speak to someone, I usually
greet him first.

2- When you speak to someone on the phone,
speak to him with respect!

3- Sepher is an extremely dumb person!

Ok, #3 may not be accurate, but HIM in the other two examples refers to both males and females. Only a bankrupted and desperate person like yourself would play this silly
game.

Point again soundly refuted.

He wrote:

46:15 “And
We have commended unto man (ووصينا
الانسان)
kindness toward parents. His mother beareth him with reluctance, and bringeth
him forth with reluctance, and the bearing of him and the weaning of him is
thirty months, till, when he attaineth full strength and reacheth forty years,
he saith: My Lord! Arouse me that I may give thanks for the favor wherewith Thou
hast favored me and my parents, and that I may do right acceptable unto Thee.
And be gracious unto me In the matter of my seed. Lo! I have turned unto Thee
repentant, and lo! I am of those who surrender (unto Thee).”

This verse is about a MALE growing to be 40
years of age and reaching “full strength”. It has nothing to do with women or
marriage age. This is nonsense Osama.

Tafseer Al Jalalayn – “His mother carries him in
travail, and gives birth to him in travail, that is to say, with
suffering; and his gestation and his weaning, from suckling, take thirty months,
six months being the minimum period for gestation, the remainder being the
maximum period of suckling; it is also said that, regardless of whether she bore
him for six or nine months, she should suckle him for the remainder. So that (hattā
is a [particle of] purpose for an implied sentence, that is to say, wa-‘āsha
hattā, ‘and he lived on so that …’) when he is mature, namely, at his prime in
terms of his strength, intellect and reasoning, the minimum [age] for which is
thirty or thirty three years, and reaches forty years, that is, exactly [forty
years], which is the maximum for [attaining] maturity”

Tafseer Ibn Abbas – “(And We have commended unto man)
We have commanded 'Abd al-Rahman Ibn Abi Bakr in the Qur'an (kindness towards
parents) Abu Bakr Ibn Abi Quhafah and his wife. (His mother beareth him) in her
womb (with reluctance) with hardship, (and bringeth him forth with reluctance)
and delivers him in hardship, (and the bearing of him) in the womb of his mother
(and the weaning of him is thirty months, till, when he attaineth full strength)
between the age of 18 to the age of 30 (and reacheth forty years, he saith) Abu
Bakr says:…”

While it seem Al Jalalayn and Ibn Abbas have a
different way of explaining the years that “full strength” means,
they are in complete agreement that
it is about a MAN.Another verse bites the dust Osama.

24:59 “And
when the children (الاطفال)
among you come to puberty (حلم)
then let them ask leave even as those before them used to ask it. Thus Allah
maketh clear His revelations for you. Allah is knower, Wise.”

Nothing about marriage here either. This is getting old
Osama. At this point I will let Ibn Abbas and Al Jalalayn refute you yet again:

Tafseer Ibn Abbas – “Allah then mentioned only older
children and slaves, saying: (And when the children among you come to puberty)
whether they are your own children or your slaves (then let them ask leave) at
all times (even as those before them) of their brothers who were mentioned
before (used to ask it. Thus Allah maketh clear His revelations) His commands
and prohibitions as He explained this (for you. Allah is knower) He knows what
is good for you, (Wise) He decreed that older people must ask permission at all
times.”

Tafseer Al Jalalayn – “And when the children among you,
O free men, reach puberty, let them seek permission, at all times, just as
those, [now] older free men, sought permission before them. So God clarifies His
signs for you, and God is Knower, Wise.”

12:22 “And when he reached his prime We gave him wisdom
and knowledge. Thus We reward the good.”

Another
verse about a MAN. This one says he gets wisdom and knowledge in his
“prime”. No marriage here. How about some Tafseer:

Tafseer Al Jalalayn – “Send
HIM forth with us tomorrow, to the desert, to frolic and play
(read [first person plural] narta‘ wa-nal‘ab, ‘that we might frolic and play’,
or [third person plural] yarta‘ wa-yal‘ab, ‘that he might frolic and play’), in
other words, so that we might be spirited and roam freely. Surely we shall take
good care of HIM’.”

Interesting discussion of Arabic grammar, but nothing
about women or marriage here either.

28:14 “And when HE reached his full strength and
was ripe, We gave HIM wisdom and knowledge. Thus do We reward the good.”

It’s a restating of 12:22, and once again no mention of
marriage, and certain nothing about the age of which females can be married.

Tafseer Al Jalalayn – “And when HE came of age,
namely, at 30 or 33, and [then] was [fully] mature, that is, when HE
reached the age of 40, We gave him judgement, wisdom, and knowledge,
comprehension of religious matters before he was sent as a prophet. And so, just
as We rewarded HIM, do We reward those are virtuous, to their own souls.”

Once again this is all about a MAN. Osama, I wish I
could resurrect Ibn Abbas, Al Jalalayn, Al Wahidi, etc, and just let them refute
you. It would cut out the middle-man.

So once again, we are left with either the Tafseer of
Osama Abdallah, or the Tafseer of the greatest scholars in the history of Islam
that all refute Osama. It seems that
you have just as much trouble making sense out of your Quran as you do the
Bible, Osama. Maybe this is some sort of condition? Or maybe you know
you are being dishonest? One thing that is very clear is that Osama has a hard
time telling when his god is talking about men or women.

My response:

Wrong again. Man (الانسان)
refers to mankind. Even the least speakers of Arabic would tell you that.
الانسان
is again masuculine, and
it includes both the males and females.

What's the matter here?? Have you not ever heard in your entire life
about masculine and feminine forms
in languages??

Responses to some of your nonsense above:

"Another verse bites the dust Osama"

Only in your wildest dreams!

"It seems that you have just as much trouble
making sense out of your Quran as you do the Bible, Osama. Maybe this is
some sort of condition?"

The only mental case and condition here is you for being ridiculously
ignorant about many many things in linguistics, and yet insist on your
foolishness and excessive ignorance.

"One thing that is very clear is that Osama
has a hard time telling when his god is talking about men or women."

As to Noble Verse 24:59, Allah Almighty again made
it CRYSTAL CLEAR that babies ((الاطفال))
are different from teenagers who reach their (حلم),
puberty.

Point again soundly refuted.

To the reader:

I am
ending all future exchanges with the
clown. He has no respect to GOD Almighty's Holy Name, and he is full of extreme stupidity, deep
ignorance and hate.

I used
him to only demonstrate that my points above are indeed SOLID
and Islamically SOUND beyond any
doubt.
This should further silence those who say that my views are heretical!
They are not but Orthodox!

Narrated 'Alqama: "While I was with Abdullah, 'Uthman
met him at Mina and said, "O Abu 'Abdur-Rahman ! I have something to say to
you." So both of them went aside and 'Uthman said, "O Abu 'Abdur-Rah. man! Shall
we marry you to a virgin who will make you remember your past days?" When
'Abdullah felt that he was not in need of that, he beckoned me (to join him)
saying, "O 'Alqama!" Then I heard him saying (in reply to 'Uthman), "As you have
said that, (I tell you that) the Prophet once said to us, 'O young people
(يا معشر الشباب)!
Whoever among you is able to marry,
should marry, and whoever is not able to marry, is recommended to fast, as
fasting diminishes his sexual power.
(Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, BOOK 62: Wedlock, Marriage (Nikaah),
Number 3)"

شباب is
a plural of both شاب,
which means "young man" or a "young grown-up man", and
شابة, which
means a "young woman" or a "young grown-up woman". شباب
is a masculine plural, and in Arabic, these plurals include both the males and
females as long as both the males and females are included. They could
also refer to only males, but they could never refer to only females.
شابات would
be the females-only plural of شابة.

Since شباب
could definitely be referring to both the males and the females from
among the Muslims, and since the context is about marriage, then obviously, the
Prophet, peace be upon him, addressed both the men and women, even if the
context seems to be pointing mainly at the men (fast to diminish your sexual
power). It doesn't exclude the women and the requirement of them being
also able to marry, because marriage is a serious lifetime commitment.

Notice how the Prophet of Islam, peace be upon him, talked with the young
grown-ups and not to children. A young grown-up can not marry unless
he/she is ready:

Physically

Mentally

Emotionally

Psychologically

Financially (especially for the men)

Socially

Notice how the Prophet said: "Whoever
among you is able to marry,". He only urged those
who are able to marry to go ahead and get married as soon as possible, so that
they would fulfill their lives, desires, and remove all loneliness and voids in
their lives. Also, in the areas of harvesting, herding cattle, constantly
moving for new supplies of water (in the desert), marriage brings a big
advantage to both the man and female, because they often work together to
harvest, take care of the cattle (sheeps, cows, camels, goats, etc...), and
other livestock such as chickens, and protect each others. Plus, they
strengthen the society by bringing more children. Waiting for too long
to get married, as we do today, was pointless back then, and is also
pointless today in these areas and conditions.

8-
Conclusion:

We have clearly seen in the preceding Noble Verses that Allah Almighty:

1- Distinguished between helpless
children and older ones, such as teenagers.

2- Forbade even allowing for the
child to take on his/her responsibilities in life without being fully ready to
engage them. For instance, in the case of the boy, perhaps he wouldn't
even be allowed to carry the sword
until his muscles and endurance are fully grown. Or, for instance, he
wouldn't be allowed to take the piece of land that he inherited from his
deceased father until he is physically able to plow it.

It takes a lot to physically grow up, especially in the old days where
life was 100% physical, and
quite challenging and dangerous.

3- In Noble Verse
4:6 (section #2) above, Allah Almighty clearly made
the age of marriage be a much older one, because through it, He, the Almighty, Gave
the determination on when to give the orphan his/her inheritance; when
"they reach the age of marriage" (4:6).

There is no question that marriage with infant babies and young children is
forbidden in Islam. Allah Almighty made this quite clear for us in the
Noble Verses that I presented above. Please visit: