Of course I do, but the thing is we are already extremists, racists, haters and etc.

Oh God.

If we ever write the 10 commandments of WNism, I hope to God one of them reads "thou shalt not conflate thine enemy's propaganda with thine own actions, nor take it as inevitable opinion."

This isn't directed only at you Darwinism - a depressingly large number of SFers don't seem to grasp that there is an huge, enormous, vast, galaxy-wide gulf between enemy propaganda, and living up to that propaganda. If we live up to that propaganda, or use it as an excuse, we reinforce it and make it true. If we refuse to let our enemies' propaganda influence us, we have a chance to show them for the liars they are.

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You and I know that there is not a chance in hell that jews will ever vote for the BNP, and why compromise ?

Of course they won't, and further, I think we both know that the "Jewish vote" is even less a real factor in politics in Britain than in the U.S.A. (Jewish money is another matter) It isn't about the Jewish vote, it's about the lemming vote. Lemmings are sympathetic towards Jews, they've been trained to be so from birth. Furthermore, they are incapable of identifying the distinction between Jews and White people - they see no distinction. Thus the issue merits the most careful handling.

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What I'm saying is, that the jew has intentions to end principal BNP stances on issues on race, and they are not worth the possible outcome.

She's clearly stated (if the story is true) that she is directly opposed to the stated purpose of the BNP. For that she should get the boot, ASAP. This isn't the same as excluding Jews for being Jews.

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What I base my opinion is the course that other European parties who started out the like BNP took, turning into Kosher Nationalists. Notably, Vlams Blok, Front National, National Alliance of Italy, SVP are perfect examples of this trend. They start out pro-white, then they allow jews, and wollah they become opposed to racism and anti-semitism.

Look, you know that excluding Jews is a good idea, and I know it, but all the lemmings out there don't, and they are why I suggest extreme caution in how Jews are handled with regards to public policy. It isn't a good idea to publicly state that Jews are verboten. I think it's best to find a slicker way to deal with them, as they have with us. Do Jews state publicly that their interest is in the dissolution of the White race? Yet somehow they always find a way to work toward that interest, don't they?

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"In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." -Thomas Jefferson

In a way, this supports my argument. On the surface, go with the flow, in reality, do what is necessary.

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Re: What jewess BNP councillor said at a barbecue

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This isn't directed only at you Darwinism - a depressingly large number of SFers don't seem to grasp that there is an huge, enormous, vast, galaxy-wide gulf between enemy propaganda, and living up to that propaganda.

I don't think you understand my position, I try not to live up to enemy propaganda and I don't parade around with Nazi uniforms. I'm stating that the BNP today is viewed by the mass as extremist, racist, and bigot, no matter how respectable it has made itself appear. It will remain so, until we gain power. I just realize that the false facade the BNP throws up to garner the sympathetic victimized judeo-vote is a compromise that threatens the very foundations of the BNP itself. Just why risk it with the success that the BNP has achieved without it ? In the long run it is going to damage us more.

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Furthermore, they are incapable of identifying the distinction between Jews and White people - they see no distinction.

I think you are underestimating the intelligence of the lemming. The jew is largely ethnocentric, therefore it will do the work of distinction for us. Whenever they feel threatened they unite. I think in Europe the realization of the jew is much more higher then America.

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This isn't the same as excluding Jews for being Jews.

I realize that, but this is what jews typically do. I mean my prediction came true. Surely we must learn from history.

By the way my statement was also in relation to the overall direction the BNP under Griffin began to take.

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I think it's best to find a slicker way to deal with them, as they have with us.

In today's world I don't think this is possible. The jews stick together with their own kind, and with the recent revivals of anti-semitism they will always fear and scam the gentile. The jews have used us goyim, but I don't think with the power the jews have today there is no way we can now reverse the role. The jews are higly ethnocentric people.

Svyatoslav_Igorevich, this is the principal point that I disagree with you. The jews will always prefer jews over gentiles, and there is no way in these times with their tremendous power, can we pull a goyim on them. So instead of wasting our time for a short term goal, we should concentrate on the over all picture without compromises.

"Keep in mind, our enemies never ever compromise." -John Tyndall

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in reality, do what is necessary.

Look I understand your point, but your idea has failed to work with many of the pro-white Nationalist parties that began in Europe. I gave you all those examples. We don't have plenty of time to try experiments. The time is ticking and this is one gamble we can't afford to lose. Especially in our ancestral lands of Britain.

I don't know whether we should discuss what is said at private events like barbeques, as I am sure we have all heard hair raising comments from fellow White Nationalists!!!!!!

However we CAN discuss what has been said in the public domain by Mrs Richardson, through her comments to a radio station in which she proclaimed that she was proud of the fact that her ancestors had fought Mosley's Blackshirts!!!!

The installing of Mrs Richardson was a clever move by those who want to force ethnics into the party, as the action of chucking Mrs Richardson out would be presented by our enemies as extreme, when of course we all know that it is not.

To diabloblanco14 and Darwinism I would say to you that there are indeed people who would prefer if we had ethnics in the party, but I would also say that there are many people who don't, people should not give up on the BNP.

People on this thread have asked members who are unhappy about the current direction of the party to contact the leadership. I myself wrote to Nick Griffin, Martin Wingfield, and John Bean. Only John Bean had the good manners to reply to my letter.

People on this thread have asked members who are unhappy about the current direction of the party to contact the leadership. I myself wrote to Nick Griffin, Martin Wingfield, and John Bean. Only John Bean had the good manners to reply to my letter.