Fort Worth cops raid a gay bar and put one customer in intensive care. Seven men were arrested. The police chief says that the violence of the cops was because - wait for it - the cops were hit on:

"You're touched and advanced in certain ways by people inside the bar, that's offensive," he said. "I'm happy with the restraint used when they were contacted like that."

This is simply incredible. Does anyone honestly believe that a bunch of cops entering a gay bar armed with plastic cuffs to check for drunkenness would be cruised and hit on by the customers? I mean: seriously. Only a pathological homophobe would think such a thing - and the police chief needs to withdraw this absurd statement, which is denied by all the eye-witnesses. Dan Savage has the best summary of this blast from the brutal past:

Allow me to translate the chief's comments: "Them faggots in that thar bar touched mah officers and now they're complainin' about some rough stuff and one little ol' faggot with a brain injury? Those perverts should be grateful they're alive."

One of the customers is in intensive care with a blood clot in the brain from the assault by the cops. The cops claim he fell later outside the bar and hit his head. They have subsequently conceded that his injuries occurred under police custody. But there are eye-witness accounts and cell-phone photos that say something different:

"[Gibson] was taken down hard," said Camp, with "four or five" officers wrestling him to the floor inside the club. Cellphone photos shot by patrons and posted to blogs show a person being held facedown by officers in a short hallway inside the club, then show a dent in the wall where his head was apparently banged.

Another eye-witness:

I saw a cop walk up behind a guy who was sitting at a table. The cop told him to stand up, and when the guy asked what for, the cop said, Youre intoxicated, Addicks said. Then there was that guy getting the crap beat out of him there in the back.

Another:

Justin McCarty said he was working security for the Rainbow Lounge at the time of the raid early Sunday morning. He said an officer approached him and asked how much he had had to drink.

I told him I was working and hadnt had anything to drink, and thats when he told me, Then you need to make yourself scarce. So I did. I went to the back out of the way. I took that as a threat that if I didnt, I would be arrested, too, McCarty said. McCarty said that he saw officers throw Chad Gibson to the floor, adding that, There were people standing there watching it happen and crying. They were scared. It was just brutal.

And another:

Egert also said she didnt see anyone make sexual advances toward any of the officers and that she didnt see anyone grope any of the officers. The people in there were scared. They were all getting out of their [police officers] way, she said. No one resisted arrest. They were singling out specific people, the men who seemed more effeminate. It just seems like it was a deliberate jab at the community.

Gibson may die from his injuries or suffer permanent brain damage. Pray that he makes a full recovery which is still possible. He is 26 years old, and weighs 160 pounds. It took four or five officers to take him down because he allegedly groped them and yet he was never charged with assault.

We should call this what it is: a violent, homophobic raid to persecute and physically assault gay men, with some witnesses saying that they targeted the smaller and more effeminate men. We need a full investigation and in the meantime the police chief and all those cops who launched this raid need to be suspended until this is cleared up. No police chief should remain in his position after offering the gay panic defense for brutal beatings by cops.

Jeezus fucking Christ!!! Does society ever evolve beyond the same leve of early civilization, or does it just take a really fucking long time? How long did it take to abolish slavery? Thousands of years? Oh, wait. There's still slavery in the world... So homosexuals are just going to be beaten, killed, harassed, etc. and that's just the way of the world, huh...? God forbid anyone try and change the world! I mean, Jesus tried, MLK, Gandhi, et al, but you just end up getting killed and nothing really changes.

Jeezus fucking Christ!!! Does society ever evolve beyond the same leve of early civilization, or does it just take a really fucking long time? How long did it take to abolish slavery? Thousands of years? Oh, wait. There's still slavery in the world... So homosexuals are just going to be beaten, killed, harassed, etc. and that's just the way of the world, huh...? God forbid anyone try and change the world! I mean, Jesus tried, MLK, Gandhi, et al, but you just end up getting killed and nothing really changes.

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Again... the premise is that the very function that these people were sexual misfits; abnormal entities who are unable to control their base sexual instincts, that this somehow establishes them as 'innocent'...

Re-read this member's position and examine it for just that perspective...

They were beaten PURELY BECAUSE they are queers... NOT because they failed to follow the unambiguous lawful orders of police who were there for reasons OTHER THAN THEM BEING QUEER...

The premise sets the stage for the rationalization, common to the race-agitators that any contest of anyONE who exists within this protected status, is a function of 'sexism'... or HATE born of the contempt for the lifestyle which THEY CHOOSE! Thus, where a queer is found with his arm up the ass of a ten year old, or hitting up the highschool... the crime is set aside; the victims converted to the agressor and the notion of justice turned on it's head by the deceitful; the hateful and the addle-minded fools advocating for such.

Jeezus fucking Christ!!! Does society ever evolve beyond the same leve of early civilization, or does it just take a really fucking long time? How long did it take to abolish slavery? Thousands of years? Oh, wait. There's still slavery in the world... So homosexuals are just going to be beaten, killed, harassed, etc. and that's just the way of the world, huh...? God forbid anyone try and change the world! I mean, Jesus tried, MLK, Gandhi, et al, but you just end up getting killed and nothing really changes.

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Again... the premise is that the very function that these people were sexual misfits; abnormal entities who are unable to control their base sexual instincts, that this somehow establishes them as 'innocent'...

Re-read this member's position and examine it for just that perspective...

They were beaten PURELY BECAUSE they are queers... NOT because they failed to follow the unambiguous lawful orders of police who were there for reasons OTHER THAN THEM BEING QUEER...

The premise sets the stage for the rationalization, common to the race-agitators that any contest of anyONE who exists within this protected status, is a function of 'sexism'... or HATE born of the contempt for the lifestyle which THEY CHOOSE! Thus, where a queer is found with his arm up the ass of a ten year old, or hitting up the highschool... the crime is set aside; the victims converted to the agressor and the notion of justice turned on it's head by the deceitful; the hateful and the addle-minded fools advocating for such.

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Lets postulate, just for the sake of it, that your right. They were beaten because they refused a lawful order.

Do you still agree with the beating so severe it put a kid into the hospital?

Fort Worth cops raid a gay bar and put one customer in intensive care. Seven men were arrested. The police chief says that the violence of the cops was because - wait for it - the cops were hit on:

"You're touched and advanced in certain ways by people inside the bar, that's offensive," he said. "I'm happy with the restraint used when they were contacted like that."

This is simply incredible. Does anyone honestly believe that a bunch of cops entering a gay bar armed with plastic cuffs to check for drunkenness would be cruised and hit on by the customers? I mean: seriously. Only a pathological homophobe would think such a thing - and the police chief needs to withdraw this absurd statement, which is denied by all the eye-witnesses. Dan Savage has the best summary of this blast from the brutal past:

Allow me to translate the chief's comments: "Them faggots in that thar bar touched mah officers and now they're complainin' about some rough stuff and one little ol' faggot with a brain injury? Those perverts should be grateful they're alive."

One of the customers is in intensive care with a blood clot in the brain from the assault by the cops. The cops claim he fell later outside the bar and hit his head. They have subsequently conceded that his injuries occurred under police custody. But there are eye-witness accounts and cell-phone photos that say something different:

"[Gibson] was taken down hard," said Camp, with "four or five" officers wrestling him to the floor inside the club. Cellphone photos shot by patrons and posted to blogs show a person being held facedown by officers in a short hallway inside the club, then show a dent in the wall where his head was apparently banged.

Another eye-witness:

I saw a cop walk up behind a guy who was sitting at a table. The cop told him to stand up, and when the guy asked what for, the cop said, Youre intoxicated, Addicks said. Then there was that guy getting the crap beat out of him there in the back.

Another:

Justin McCarty said he was working security for the Rainbow Lounge at the time of the raid early Sunday morning. He said an officer approached him and asked how much he had had to drink.

I told him I was working and hadnt had anything to drink, and thats when he told me, Then you need to make yourself scarce. So I did. I went to the back out of the way. I took that as a threat that if I didnt, I would be arrested, too, McCarty said. McCarty said that he saw officers throw Chad Gibson to the floor, adding that, There were people standing there watching it happen and crying. They were scared. It was just brutal.

And another:

Egert also said she didnt see anyone make sexual advances toward any of the officers and that she didnt see anyone grope any of the officers. The people in there were scared. They were all getting out of their [police officers] way, she said. No one resisted arrest. They were singling out specific people, the men who seemed more effeminate. It just seems like it was a deliberate jab at the community.

Gibson may die from his injuries or suffer permanent brain damage. Pray that he makes a full recovery which is still possible. He is 26 years old, and weighs 160 pounds. It took four or five officers to take him down because he allegedly groped them and yet he was never charged with assault.

We should call this what it is: a violent, homophobic raid to persecute and physically assault gay men, with some witnesses saying that they targeted the smaller and more effeminate men. We need a full investigation and in the meantime the police chief and all those cops who launched this raid need to be suspended until this is cleared up. No police chief should remain in his position after offering the gay panic defense for brutal beatings by cops.

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Now friends, this entire screed is just one long lie... The entire argument appeals to not a single fact; but a long list of emotional appeals from that of sympathy, to ignorance to the tired attack upon those who simply bring the message.

What ya have here, is little more than the queers inside that lobby getting up in the grill of law enforcement; and who now come to lament the ramifications of the foolishness.

I've no DOUBT that those pathetic sexual deviants were shoving their 'lifestyle' choice in the faces of those officers and they did so upon the erroneous premise that their quasi-publically protected status as 'homosexuals' would somehow protect them...

Looks like they've succumbed to YET ANOTHER POORLY THOUGHT OUT CONCLUSION...

And with that I'd like to offer a round of applause to the good men of Texas Law Enforcement...

Well done Lads... and I hope that in so doing, you haven't subjected yourself to the lethal virus common to these sexual misfits.

Again... the premise is that the very function that these people were sexual misfits; abnormal entities who are unable to control their base sexual instincts, that this somehow establishes them as 'innocent'...

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Evidently your premise is that they are more comfortable with their sexuality than you are, they are automatically guilty of any offense necessary to justify the beating?

Fort Worth cops raid a gay bar and put one customer in intensive care. Seven men were arrested. The police chief says that the violence of the cops was because - wait for it - the cops were hit on:

"You're touched and advanced in certain ways by people inside the bar, that's offensive," he said. "I'm happy with the restraint used when they were contacted like that."

This is simply incredible. Does anyone honestly believe that a bunch of cops entering a gay bar armed with plastic cuffs to check for drunkenness would be cruised and hit on by the customers? I mean: seriously. Only a pathological homophobe would think such a thing - and the police chief needs to withdraw this absurd statement, which is denied by all the eye-witnesses. Dan Savage has the best summary of this blast from the brutal past:

Allow me to translate the chief's comments: "Them faggots in that thar bar touched mah officers and now they're complainin' about some rough stuff and one little ol' faggot with a brain injury? Those perverts should be grateful they're alive."

One of the customers is in intensive care with a blood clot in the brain from the assault by the cops. The cops claim he fell later outside the bar and hit his head. They have subsequently conceded that his injuries occurred under police custody. But there are eye-witness accounts and cell-phone photos that say something different:

"[Gibson] was taken down hard," said Camp, with "four or five" officers wrestling him to the floor inside the club. Cellphone photos shot by patrons and posted to blogs show a person being held facedown by officers in a short hallway inside the club, then show a dent in the wall where his head was apparently banged.

Another eye-witness:

I saw a cop walk up behind a guy who was sitting at a table. The cop told him to stand up, and when the guy asked what for, the cop said, Youre intoxicated, Addicks said. Then there was that guy getting the crap beat out of him there in the back.

Another:

Justin McCarty said he was working security for the Rainbow Lounge at the time of the raid early Sunday morning. He said an officer approached him and asked how much he had had to drink.

I told him I was working and hadnt had anything to drink, and thats when he told me, Then you need to make yourself scarce. So I did. I went to the back out of the way. I took that as a threat that if I didnt, I would be arrested, too, McCarty said. McCarty said that he saw officers throw Chad Gibson to the floor, adding that, There were people standing there watching it happen and crying. They were scared. It was just brutal.

And another:

Egert also said she didnt see anyone make sexual advances toward any of the officers and that she didnt see anyone grope any of the officers. The people in there were scared. They were all getting out of their [police officers] way, she said. No one resisted arrest. They were singling out specific people, the men who seemed more effeminate. It just seems like it was a deliberate jab at the community.

Gibson may die from his injuries or suffer permanent brain damage. Pray that he makes a full recovery which is still possible. He is 26 years old, and weighs 160 pounds. It took four or five officers to take him down because he allegedly groped them and yet he was never charged with assault.

We should call this what it is: a violent, homophobic raid to persecute and physically assault gay men, with some witnesses saying that they targeted the smaller and more effeminate men. We need a full investigation and in the meantime the police chief and all those cops who launched this raid need to be suspended until this is cleared up. No police chief should remain in his position after offering the gay panic defense for brutal beatings by cops.

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Now friends, this entire screed is just one long lie... The entire argument appeals to not a single fact; but a long list of emotional appeals from that of sympathy, to ignorance to the tired attack upon those who simply bring the message.

What ya have here, is little more than the queers inside that lobby getting up in the grill of law enforcement; and who now come to lament the ramifications of the foolishness.

I've no DOUBT that those pathetic sexual deviants were shoving their 'lifestyle' choice in the faces of those officers and they did so upon the erroneous premise that their quasi-publically protected status as 'homosexuals' would somehow protect them...

Looks like they've succumbed to YET ANOTHER POORLY THOUGHT OUT CONCLUSION...

And with that I'd like to offer a round of applause to the good men of Texas Law Enforcement...

Well done Lads... and I hope that in so doing, you haven't subjected yourself to the lethal virus common to these sexual misfits.

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Maybe the cops can come round your area and beat the shit out of some local doms, eh?

Fort Worth cops raid a gay bar and put one customer in intensive care. Seven men were arrested. The police chief says that the violence of the cops was because - wait for it - the cops were hit on:

"You're touched and advanced in certain ways by people inside the bar, that's offensive," he said. "I'm happy with the restraint used when they were contacted like that."

This is simply incredible. Does anyone honestly believe that a bunch of cops entering a gay bar armed with plastic cuffs to check for drunkenness would be cruised and hit on by the customers? I mean: seriously. Only a pathological homophobe would think such a thing - and the police chief needs to withdraw this absurd statement, which is denied by all the eye-witnesses. Dan Savage has the best summary of this blast from the brutal past:

Allow me to translate the chief's comments: "Them faggots in that thar bar touched mah officers and now they're complainin' about some rough stuff and one little ol' faggot with a brain injury? Those perverts should be grateful they're alive."

One of the customers is in intensive care with a blood clot in the brain from the assault by the cops. The cops claim he fell later outside the bar and hit his head. They have subsequently conceded that his injuries occurred under police custody. But there are eye-witness accounts and cell-phone photos that say something different:

"[Gibson] was taken down hard," said Camp, with "four or five" officers wrestling him to the floor inside the club. Cellphone photos shot by patrons and posted to blogs show a person being held facedown by officers in a short hallway inside the club, then show a dent in the wall where his head was apparently banged.

Another eye-witness:

I saw a cop walk up behind a guy who was sitting at a table. The cop told him to stand up, and when the guy asked what for, the cop said, Youre intoxicated, Addicks said. Then there was that guy getting the crap beat out of him there in the back.

Another:

Justin McCarty said he was working security for the Rainbow Lounge at the time of the raid early Sunday morning. He said an officer approached him and asked how much he had had to drink.

I told him I was working and hadnt had anything to drink, and thats when he told me, Then you need to make yourself scarce. So I did. I went to the back out of the way. I took that as a threat that if I didnt, I would be arrested, too, McCarty said. McCarty said that he saw officers throw Chad Gibson to the floor, adding that, There were people standing there watching it happen and crying. They were scared. It was just brutal.

And another:

Egert also said she didnt see anyone make sexual advances toward any of the officers and that she didnt see anyone grope any of the officers. The people in there were scared. They were all getting out of their [police officers] way, she said. No one resisted arrest. They were singling out specific people, the men who seemed more effeminate. It just seems like it was a deliberate jab at the community.

Gibson may die from his injuries or suffer permanent brain damage. Pray that he makes a full recovery which is still possible. He is 26 years old, and weighs 160 pounds. It took four or five officers to take him down because he allegedly groped them and yet he was never charged with assault.

We should call this what it is: a violent, homophobic raid to persecute and physically assault gay men, with some witnesses saying that they targeted the smaller and more effeminate men. We need a full investigation and in the meantime the police chief and all those cops who launched this raid need to be suspended until this is cleared up. No police chief should remain in his position after offering the gay panic defense for brutal beatings by cops.

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Now friends, this entire screed is just one long lie... The entire argument appeals to not a single fact; but a long list of emotional appeals from that of sympathy, to ignorance to the tired attack upon those who simply bring the message.

What ya have here, is little more than the queers inside that lobby getting up in the grill of law enforcement; and who now come to lament the ramifications of the foolishness.

I've no DOUBT that those pathetic sexual deviants were shoving their 'lifestyle' choice in the faces of those officers and they did so upon the erroneous premise that their quasi-publically protected status as 'homosexuals' would somehow protect them...

Looks like they've succumbed to YET ANOTHER POORLY THOUGHT OUT CONCLUSION...

And with that I'd like to offer a round of applause to the good men of Texas Law Enforcement...

Well done Lads... and I hope that in so doing, you haven't subjected yourself to the lethal virus common to these sexual misfits.

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Lovely...and here I thought we were all in the same time continuim rather than some, like your post, indicating people stuck in the mid-20th century...ante Stonewall.

Now friends, this entire screed is just one long lie... The entire argument appeals to not a single fact; but a long list of emotional appeals from that of sympathy, to ignorance to the tired attack upon those who simply bring the message.

What ya have here, is little more than the queers inside that lobby getting up in the grill of law enforcement; and who now come to lament the ramifications of the foolishness.

I've no DOUBT that those pathetic sexual deviants were shoving their 'lifestyle' choice in the faces of those officers and they did so upon the erroneous premise that their quasi-publically protected status as 'homosexuals' would somehow protect them...

Looks like they've succumbed to YET ANOTHER POORLY THOUGHT OUT CONCLUSION...

And with that I'd like to offer a round of applause to the good men of Texas Law Enforcement...

Well done Lads... and I hope that in so doing, you haven't subjected yourself to the lethal virus common to these sexual misfits.

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Lovely...and here I thought we were all in the same time continuim rather than some, like your post, indicating people stuck in the mid-20th century...ante Stonewall.

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