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Still better then pre U6 moors, U9 was great just needed a couple tweaks. The fate/will changes and new jewelry are just ridiculous.

Couple that with freep BFPs and the all around brand/insignia nerfs and it's just a... winning update. Too many creeps jumped ship to freep side, highlighting and exacerbating the problem further. Each one of these, on their own and properly balanced probably would have been fine, but all at once was an avalanche that has all but wiped out Ark PvP, at the very least.

Lieutenant Sersi Niflhel· Retired"I will give you no quarter, and I will take none."

U9 was as balanced as I've seen things since I've been playing. There were some things that needed tweaking (OP buffs for example) and the MBs drove me nuts (was all in favor of creeps having better CC removal/avoidance, though). However, u10 with the FAs, jewelry like you wouldn't believe, BFPs, changes to fate, will and crit mechanics....... just wrong if you want anything close to balance!

Easy fix...keep the bfp's. Make it so freeps can only use moors gear/weapons and jewlery in the moors and pve gear/weapons and jewlery in pve land. Throw some 3rd/2nd agers on the class barters and a slight update to the jewlery(don't go nuts).

Easy fix...keep the bfp's. Make it so freeps can only use moors gear/weapons and jewlery in the moors and pve gear/weapons and jewlery in pve land. Throw some 3rd/2nd agers on the class barters and a slight update to the jewlery(don't go nuts).

I don't think that would work well for new freeps that don't have any pvmp gear though.

Think they just should have removed or nerfed the MBs and left my rank brand alone so I could run screaming solo into TR once in a while.

It didn't seem too terrible on Sunday, except I forgot my brand doesn't give immunity any more and I ran into TR to catch Casino afk. He wasn't afk and I wasn't stun immune so it didn't go the way I planned. I died a few times but i also killed a couple solo and I had some fun fights against wardens, fun like shoveling snow in a blizzard fun. But I don't RvR any more at all, so maybe that's bad and I just don't know it.

I see it more as an issue that the creeps who were used to being ridiculous OP now are not. Its disheartening when this happens but put on your big boy pants and cope. I had to when my champ wasnt nearly so OP at the start of the last update.

lol bet that pissed a bunch of people off enjoy....

Formerly Derlan of Arkenstone, Thistlebeard of Crickhollow, Thistlehair of Brandywine. Once again Derlan of Arkenstone. Your Welcome for the $75 WB.

I see it more as an issue that the creeps who were used to being ridiculous OP now are not. Its disheartening when this happens but put on your big boy pants and cope. I had to when my champ wasnt nearly so OP at the start of the last update.

Last update was probably the closest to balance it's been with just a couple of issues (Mordi brands and numbers imbalance). So it's not a matter of "creeps were used to being op", but a real issue now and all the things I mentioned in my above post touch on these. But especially the numbers; Ark unfortunately tends to have a lot of fair weather players... on both sides. We saw it last update with creeps and we're seeing it this update with freeps, it's sadly how our community seems to swing anymore. We lack the consistent creep and freep power houses that we used to have to off set the swingers.

Would taking away the dual comms stop the flipping? As in, force players to choose which toon to develop?

RUNNINGAWAYANDHIDINGNOW

What, you mean having creep only comms and freep only comms? If only this had been implimented when the comms system first came out...

It might not entirely stop flipping, but it'd make it more difficult to run with max audacity toons on both sides and encourage people to choose one and stick with it. However, most people already have full audacity, so it'd be too little too late if they added in something like this now.

Glad to hear things are still the same, albeit (by the look of the comments here) a population shift occurred between the factions again. Thank god WoW pvp is still awesome.

Wish I had the motivation to bother logging to help out creepside, but then again it will probably just be the same martyrs there who played freep when the balance was shifted the other way, and vice versa.

Why wouldn't a better-scaled ON buff that does a better job of tying renown/infamy rewards to risks work? If it worked right, it might encourage peeps to switch to the outnumbered side instead of the way things work now where the side w/ the most peeps typically gets the lion's share of the infamy/renown and mastery buffs, and then steamrolls the other side w/ their buffs and numbers. Reward mechanics that favor the dominating side do nothing but encourage the type of flip flopping that makes things so dang zergy.

just play what makes you happy. same complaints have been occurring in the moors for YEARS re: one side op, not enough on one side, too much pve, yadda yadda yadda. it's never gonna change. just play what makes ya happy, even if it ain't lotro.

for example, here's me playing wii bowling this morning with my friends:

What, you mean having creep only comms and freep only comms? If only this had been implimented when the comms system first came out...

It might not entirely stop flipping, but it'd make it more difficult to run with max audacity toons on both sides and encourage people to choose one and stick with it. However, most people already have full audacity, so it'd be too little too late if they added in something like this now.

Originally Posted by Nouri

Why wouldn't a better-scaled ON buff that does a better job of tying renown/infamy rewards to risks work? If it worked right, it might encourage peeps to switch to the outnumbered side instead of the way things work now where the side w/ the most peeps typically gets the lion's share of the infamy/renown and mastery buffs, and then steamrolls the other side w/ their buffs and numbers. Reward mechanics that favor the dominating side do nothing but encourage the type of flip flopping that makes things so dang zergy.

I like the idea of changing the incentives AND the mechanics to try to get a more even playing experience regardless which side you choose to log in on. I like the idea of fixing the ON buffs to actually benefit the outnumbered side instead of creating more imbalance when all the OPs flip to one color.

Even if "everyone" has their audacity now, that's not what I meant to prevent. I meant to prevent flipping to the easy side to earn comms to deck out your toons. Rolling greenie creeps so you can afford to buy something for your freep. Maybe keep it shared on either side so all your creep alts or freep alts can benefit, but not creep/freep freep/creep.

just play what makes you happy. same complaints have been occurring in the moors for YEARS re: one side op, not enough on one side, too much pve, yadda yadda yadda. it's never gonna change. just play what makes ya happy, even if it ain't lotro.

for example, here's me playing wii bowling this morning with my friends:

scored a spare!

I know I am a strange person and notice things that most people never will but anyone else see the old guy in the blue shirt scoping out Gassy's ummm form from the back.

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So......anyone else up for letting this thread die and from now on just having nothing but grat's threads for those who rank? It would at least stop giving the impression that we have active PVP or any sort of interesting drama so that poor people like, The Dauntless don't waste their money transferring here.

B.) Good Fight's Thread: Good fight XYZ group, we took great pleasure slaughtering YOUR group with poor class composition and only 75% of the people didn't know how-to-play their class! Hope to see you tomorrow night when OUR group has no healers and not a single rank above 6!!!!