Really? 2x Pro Bowl, 1x All Pro and in 5 of the past 7 years he has hauled in ~70-80 rec for 700-800 yards, all with nothing to speak of at QB. You and I must have different definitions of 'he sucks.' You dont think a QB like PFM who loves the TE could use him?

Now the 2 times he didnt hit those numbers, he was injured so I buy the injury concern. BUT, If the report is true that his release wasnt about injury, and that is a big if, then absolutely he can compete with Tamme and Dressen, neither of whom have had a pro bowl year yet.

We all know that 24 other teams get to take players that are waived before we get to get them. So all the better cuts are going to wind up on NON playoff winning teams.

Just one more reason to lose that PIT playoff game instead of win it.

Hard to tell if you are joking or not. I don't think you are being serious. What Broncos fan, or any fan for that matter, hopes his team loses a playoff game, or any game for that matter. The ONLY game you could even think about wishing to lose is if you were 1-13 or something and a loss would give your the 1st overall pick and somebody like Andrew Luck was sitting there waiting for you. But you're talking about losing a playoff game. That's insane dude. The only way you get one of these......
.......is to WIN playoff games to reach the Superbowl. Cmon dude.

Really? 2x Pro Bowl, 1x All Pro and in 5 of the past 7 years he has hauled in ~70-80 rec for 700-800 yards, all with nothing to speak of at QB. You and I must have different definitions of 'he sucks.' You dont think a QB like PFM who loves the TE could use him?

Now the 2 times he didnt hit those numbers, he was injured so I buy the injury concern. BUT, If the report is true that his release wasnt about injury, and that is a big if, then absolutely he can compete with Tamme and Dressen, neither of whom have had a pro bowl year yet.

Hey Smart guy, you do realize that he actually had an arguably better year in 2010 than in his last pro-bowl year, just didn't win the annual popularity contest. Beyond being a complete tight-end, he is considered a fantastic leader, teammate, and is incredible with the fans.

Educate yourself on a player before you make such in-depth analysis as "He sucks"

Hey Smart guy, you do realize that he actually had an arguably better year in 2010 than in his last pro-bowl year, just didn't win the annual popularity contest. Beyond being a complete tight-end, he is considered a fantastic leader, teammate, and is incredible with the fans.

Educate yourself on a player before you make such in-depth analysis as "He sucks"

Sure thing bud. You left out that he only played 7 games in 09 and 5 games in 2011. 6 TDs in the last 4 years WOW(!)

Too old, too expensive, and not needed

And he also sucks

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Reason: Dreessen had 6 TDs LAST SEASON

Sure thing bud. You left out that he only played 7 games in 09 and 5 games in 2011. 6 TDs in the last 4 years WOW(!)

Too old, too expensive, and not needed

And he also sucks

Too expensive? He doesn't have a freakin contract!

Too old? Aren't you the guy you freaked out about getting MJD because we are in win now mode? Because we have an All-pro QB who is Old, expensive, and was injured all of last year? Cooley is better than Tamme right now, Who has 5 CAREER TD's by the way. Dreesseen and Cooley are the same age and Dreesseen has never shown half the ability of Cooley.

Now....do you happen to have a rebuttal that involves facts or analysis?

Or are you going to stick with, he was hurt twice, and despite being a superior football player to both of our tight ends...he sucks?

His last contract was for $3.8m. We just locked up Tamme and Dreessen for far less than that, but if you really think an oft-injured 30yo TE is needed for Peyton to run an efficient offense, then be my guest.

I don't think we need him, I don't want him. And in typical orange mane fashion, let's add some scrub but pass on truly elite talent at the RB position (because we're so stacked in that area too!)

Tamme lines up in the slot constantly and has history/rapport with Peyton, Dreessen is the inline blocker, and whoever the third TE we keep is, they'll be far cheaper than Cooley.

His last contract was for $3.8m. We just locked up Tamme and Dreessen for far less than that, but if you really think an oft-injured 30yo TE is needed for Peyton to run an efficient offense, then be my guest.

I don't think we need him, I don't want him. And in typical orange mane fashion, let's add some scrub but pass on truly elite talent at the RB position (because we're so stacked in that area too!)

and he got cut, you really think he is going to make 3.8 million?

If you can't see the difference between signing a probowl talent on the cheap (with no cost in draft picks or players) and trading away valuable resources for a top tier player that will want a top tier contract extension as well, not to mention based on the career spans of the 2 positions likely has the same number of effective years left in his career.... Then I don't know how to help you.

There has been no indication the broncos are even interested in Cooley, so it doesn't really matter what any of us think

Not in the grand scheme, but someone thought they would like to share that they thought Cooley would be a great cheap upgrade for us.

and then somebody apparently took offense and decided to dump on that player, yet without reasoned discussion.

They could have said....I would like to see how they guys we have perform. It's late in the preseason at this point, Cooley may not be a big enough upgrade to thrust him into the lineup without knowing the offense. Our current guys have a relationship with Manning now, I'd rather just stand pat.

If this board wasnt so damn predictable about wanting subpar players added to the team maybe I would have chosen my words better. Next time I'll be sure to be more politically correct when dumping on a washed up TE who was cut by a crappy team with a rookie QB, lest everyone get their panties in a bunch

I think Cooley would be a waste. The injuries have slowed him down alot. The guy isn't a scrub though. He's accomplished alot more than every TE on our roster but I think we are pretty set at the position.

If we lost a guy due to injury I'd def say sign him but I'm betting Cooley retires. Dude looked pretty hurt in his press conference that he won't be a Redskin anymore.

I think Cooley would be a waste. The injuries have slowed him down alot. The guy isn't a scrub though. He's accomplished alot more than every TE on our roster but I think we are pretty set at the position.

If we lost a guy due to injury I'd def say sign him but I'm betting Cooley retires. Dude looked pretty hurt in his press conference that he won't be a Redskin anymore.

He would probably come to Denver because it's closer to his hometown and where he went to College. He could probably be a cheap bandaid. I'm surprised NE didnt' sign him yet.

He would probably come to Denver because it's closer to his hometown and where he went to College. He could probably be a cheap bandaid. I'm surprised NE didnt' sign him yet.

NE is stacked at that position, I don't see the draw for Cooley. I don't think he is a ring chaser. Honestly Swaiy may be right, Cooley was a Diehard Redskin, I could honestly see him retiring and working as a broadcaster locally.

NE is stacked at that position, I don't see the draw for Cooley. I don't think he is a ring chaser. Honestly Swaiy may be right, Cooley was a Diehard Redskin, I could honestly see him retiring and working as a broadcaster locally.

Hard to tell if you are joking or not. I don't think you are being serious. What Broncos fan, or any fan for that matter, hopes his team loses a playoff game, or any game for that matter. The ONLY game you could even think about wishing to lose is if you were 1-13 or something and a loss would give your the 1st overall pick and somebody like Andrew Luck was sitting there waiting for you. But you're talking about losing a playoff game. That's insane dude. The only way you get one of these......
.......is to WIN playoff games to reach the Superbowl. Cmon dude.

Where were you when so called fans wanted to lose against the Vikings so we would end up 7-9 (we didnt know what subpar 8-8 was before this in a long time) and get a better Top 10 draft pick? Well, we ended up winning that game and picked #12. Instead of top 10 quality, we get that scrub Clady.

He was being serious. Our whole season was saved by that big victory. He is an idiot.

If this board wasnt so damn predictable about wanting subpar players added to the team maybe I would have chosen my words better. Next time I'll be sure to be more politically correct when dumping on a washed up TE who was cut by a crappy team with a rookie QB, lest everyone get their panties in a bunch

Not posting like **** isn't being politically correct. It just requires using that lump of soft tissue positioned between your ears a bit more.

When you arguments against a guy are:
1. "he sucks" when in fact the guy has made a couple pro-bowls and when healthy has still been an effective all around TE.
2. "too old" at 30 years of age when all we need is one season out of him.
3. "too expensive" when he doesn't have a contract and is likely to sign for the vet minimum.

You aren't being politically incorrect. You're just incorrect, which is entirely a product of your own ignorance.

Tamme hasn't looked very good this pre-season at catching the ball and he's never been a good blocker. Virgil Green is out for 4 games to start the year due to his suspension. By most all accounts both Thomas and Ingram have looked like dog **** all camp and pre-season. So that leaves us Dreessen as the only healthy and well rounded TE we can even put on the field.

We need a 3rd TE while we wait for Green to get healthy anyway, why let Thomas or Ingram get the job by default when a vet FA signing has higher upside AND a higher floor?

I wasn't too sure about Cooley however I have to say that Drek and 2Kback have swayed me on this, I actually wouldn't be opposed to it and think it has more upside then down.

As for will it happen? Well probably not but there's also a 21 page thread about the unlikely possibility that MJD signs here. Is it the typical Mane? Yes, absolutely. And that's not a bad thing. I come here to read and write about football. This whole Cooley conversation has actually made some good points about how weak our Denver Broncos, the team we come here to discuss, may actually be at TE.