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Re: Conrad Brunner to be on JMV at 4:30 today

A disagreement on pronunciation of Sara's last name. An agreement that Runi would be the chosen nickname, and a cryptic implication that DW always has something going on and somebody unthought of might be the one chosen for Tax Cutting purposes. (Bruno said that DW doesn't think on the same plain as the rest of us, he thinks much wider and longer-term that fans or soprtswriters.)

OH yeah...and that Saras was gonna see a TON of minutes. He wsn't brought here for 10-12 minutes/game.

If you get to thinkiní youíre a person of some influence, try orderiní somebody elseís dog around..

Re: Conrad Brunner to be on JMV at 4:30 today

"The bottom line is no, the Pacers aren't done making moves this offseason. In fact, they're just getting started."

Yikes... I take that as just about anyone outside of JO, Ronnie, Granger, possibly Harrison are tradable commodities.

Well, lets speculate on who will be traded.

Can't be traded
Granger - just signed, can't be traded in the off season.

Won't be traded
Saras - not signed yet and they plan for him to play.
JO - Named as part of Pacers core by Bird
Ron - Named as part of Pacers core by Bird
Harrison - Pacers are to high on him to trade him

Very unlikely to be traded
Tinsley - Named as part of Pacers core by Bird
Jax - Named as part of Pacers core by Bird
jj - would have to be in a sign and trade
Cro - to big of a contract
Foster - only if the Pacers recieve another center in return

Re: Conrad Brunner to be on JMV at 4:30 today

Can't be traded
Granger - just signed, can't be traded in the off season.

Won't be traded
Saras - not signed yet and they plan for him to play.
JO - Named as part of Pacers core by Bird
Ron - Named as part of Pacers core by Bird
Harrison - Pacers are to high on him to trade him

Very unlikely to be traded
Tinsley - Named as part of Pacers core by Bird
Jax - Named as part of Pacers core by Bird
jj - would have to be in a sign and trade
Cro - to big of a contract
Foster - only if the Pacers recieve another center in return

Could be traded
Bender - why not?
Pollard -
AJ -
Gill -
Fred -

I think your list is pretty accurate Will. I'm just not utterly convinced that a trade will occur. The "championship move" Summer is too fresh in my mind to consider something inevitable. You always need a second and sometimes third party for the trade and we have no idea what our player's value to other team's are. I think if something big happens it will likely involve Bender. He and Fred are the only two in the "could be" category that I would think would bring us much value. AJ's value IMO is higher to us than I would imagine it would be to others outside of Cleveland. While I find Bruno to be a good writer and shows a good understanding of the NBA and Pacer's, I often view he and Pacers.com as pumping up interest with innuendo as a marketing ploy (See Bender, last 5 Summers)

Re: Conrad Brunner to be on JMV at 4:30 today

Can't be traded
Granger - just signed, can't be traded in the off season.

Won't be traded
Saras - not signed yet and they plan for him to play.
JO - Named as part of Pacers core by Bird
Ron - Named as part of Pacers core by Bird
Harrison - Pacers are to high on him to trade him

Very unlikely to be traded
Tinsley - Named as part of Pacers core by Bird
Jax - Named as part of Pacers core by Bird
jj - would have to be in a sign and trade
Cro - to big of a contract
Foster - only if the Pacers recieve another center in return

Could be traded
Bender - why not?
Pollard -
AJ -
Gill -
Fred -

I don't think Bird is as enamored of JO and Tinsley as some of you want to believe. There are doubts...

Tinsley fits his category more due to his trade status than Bird saying he is part of the core.

I think you could drop JO to the same list as Tinsley. The holdup there is salary and projected role on the team. I don't think the team would or could move JO for anything less than a stellar target.

BUT if one of the upper echelon PF's or C's would find their way to the market I believe talks would get serious on our end. Tinsley then could be the butter on the bread to make an all-star type trade work.

I'm not necessarily advocating this but I am telling you not to get too tied into thinking management thinks JO walks on water and smells like a rose. Tinsley either.

Re-reading your list... I think all of your 'won't be traded' guys could be traded (except Saras and I agree with his status). Maybe not traded en-masse but there are question marks with all of them.

-Bball

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