Xplora wrote:I'd get the Brac's just to support our man Jack, honestly. No one has been unhappy with them anywhere, that's got to count for something!

+1 on both counts. Never heard anyone complain about them at all, plus Deon (aka Jack[some numbers]) is an all round good bloke deserving of our love. [Disclosure: I have a pro-lite bike and two sets of pro-lite wheels]

If its worth anything to you, the hub geometry on the RS80 and the RS10 should be the same, so if you often need to switch wheels then you shouldn't need to tune your gears. The RS80 use some very light rims, but heavy hubs and spokes bump up the overall weight. IIRC, the RS80 can build to a 1300g wheelset with light hubs and spokes (like the DA model).

I have Aksiums as my spare wheels and they are OK but don't set my world on fire. I have ridden RS80's and loved them, would buy these if I were in your shoes.

usernameforme wrote:If its worth anything to you, the hub geometry on the RS80 and the RS10 should be the same, so if you often need to switch wheels then you shouldn't need to tune your gears. The RS80 use some very light rims, but heavy hubs and spokes bump up the overall weight. IIRC, the RS80 can build to a 1300g wheelset with light hubs and spokes (like the DA model).

Thanks to both of you, makes my decision a whole lot easier... Now just hunting to find them $400 or under, which will be quite a task from the looks of it! Put some 25c GP4000s on them and I reckon I'll be good for upgrades on my 105 CAAD10 for a while I think

I don't have too much personal experience with the RS80, but I see the DA version alot, They seem to hold up quite nicely. There's nothing that suggests to me that it won't hold up your weight. Just make sure there is plenty of grease in the hub, seen quite a few complaints that sound like the owner hasn't greased the hubs. Being cup and cone style bearings, they require some attention to keep them smooth. The ammount of attention required varies, but IME its a set and forget thing.

I've done about 8k on rs80 c24s and have found them bomb proof, I Jump kerbs and ride on rough roads.I was concerned about rim wear but they seem ok, I weigh 85kgs. Go for it I say,all my cartridge Hubs I've worn out bearings these are great. I agree with the above re grease from new and check the bearing tension mine were tight off the shelf.

Girlfriends RS80's are about three year old and never had an issueI have 7850 DA C24's with 10,000 km on my old bike never had aspanner on them that still spin true with no bearing adjustmentmy current bike has 7900 DA C24's that have done 15,000 kmI do not treat them gently either, was concerned at first theymay be a fragile wheel being so light,not now wont hessitate buying 9000 C24's for the next bike80kg rider BTW

I've used a pair if the RS80 (c24) clinchers as my 'do everything' wheelset for almost 18 months. Commuting, training & racing. They are awesome, strong & stiff as all heck, and roll beautifully. I would highly recommend them...

I have Aksiums as my spare wheels and they are OK but don't set my world on fire. I have ridden RS80's and loved them, would buy these if I were in your shoes.

The OP was asking about Bracciano, not Stelvio which are a discontinued and different product. That being said, if you care to elaborate on your issue. Where did you buy your wheels, how old are they, how many kms have they done, how heavy are you.

I have Aksiums as my spare wheels and they are OK but don't set my world on fire. I have ridden RS80's and loved them, would buy these if I were in your shoes.

The OP was asking about Bracciano, not Stelvio which are a discontinued and different product. That being said, if you care to elaborate on your issue. Where did you buy your wheels, how old are they, how many kms have they done, how heavy are you.

I'm sure we can help you out with whatever your issue is/was.

Similar/different product, same manufacturer........I bought them from yourself. I offloaded them sometime ago, not much scope to assist unfortunately.

I'm another happy Bracciano owner. I've only had them a couple of months and they "felt" faster (than the mavic cpx22 they replaced) when I go them and my Strava times did improve a bit. But the real eye opener was when I did the recent Fitz's challenge - riding with 430 other cyclists over many hills I noticed how much faster I was coasting down the hills, compared with the other cyclists. When in a group I was constantly braking otherwise I found myself overtaking others with ease, often with them pedalling and me simply coasting. Sure, a lot of people have poor aero technique but I have no doubt the wheels were the major factor.

nickdos wrote:I'm another happy Bracciano owner. I've only had them a couple of months and they "felt" faster (than the mavic cpx22 they replaced) when I go them and my Strava times did improve a bit. But the real eye opener was when I did the recent Fitz's challenge - riding with 430 other cyclists over many hills I noticed how much faster I was coasting down the hills, compared with the other cyclists. When in a group I was constantly braking otherwise I found myself overtaking others with ease, often with them pedalling and me simply coasting. Sure, a lot of people have poor aero technique but I have no doubt the wheels were the major factor.

That's a very interesting observation.

My Felt F75 currently has the CXP22's, running Conti GP4000S's (and I'm co-incidentally currently contemplating an upgrade to some Bracciano's myself)...however I find that with the CXP22's, I too seem to coast downhill on them whilst those around me seem to be riding with a parachute (and I'm constantly on the brakes).On a recent club ride I had two riders pedalling down the descent and I coasted past them without pedaling and at the bottom they asked me how on earth I passed them by without pedaling once.

If upgrading to the Bracciano's means my downhill coasting will improve even further then I may need to invest in some company shares of the brake pad manufacturers...or try and seek sponsorship from them....LOL

-----------"Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or a day, or a year, but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever" Lance Armstrong

nickdos wrote:I'm another happy Bracciano owner. I've only had them a couple of months and they "felt" faster (than the mavic cpx22 they replaced) when I go them and my Strava times did improve a bit. But the real eye opener was when I did the recent Fitz's challenge - riding with 430 other cyclists over many hills I noticed how much faster I was coasting down the hills, compared with the other cyclists. When in a group I was constantly braking otherwise I found myself overtaking others with ease, often with them pedalling and me simply coasting. Sure, a lot of people have poor aero technique but I have no doubt the wheels were the major factor.

Same here. Had the Bracciano's for 1 month & I coast a lot in group rides. Maybe I'm getting fitter as well but since the wheel upgrade I can keep up & doesn't get dropped behind.

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