tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post4449308485406622941..comments2016-12-07T01:46:17.403-08:00Comments on HARDCORE ZEN: In Which I Am Criticized by the Master of Antaiji TempleBrad Warnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13273179722564495744noreply@blogger.comBlogger271125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-65253247393115355502015-03-18T02:43:47.637-07:002015-03-18T02:43:47.637-07:00Hi Brad,
Although your post is four years old. I ...Hi Brad, <br />Although your post is four years old. I have to say that you are Brad centric in the motto of &#39;&#39;me, myself and I&#39;&#39; <br />Alternative views are removed or censored as I can see above. Not the way of Zen as I understand. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-76177518217390846262011-01-08T20:11:03.267-08:002011-01-08T20:11:03.267-08:00holy crap 269 comments! do you actually read all t...holy crap 269 comments! do you actually read all this shit? no wonder you don&#39;t have time to lead a group.koji from austinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-68953026735305999582011-01-08T00:30:56.268-08:002011-01-08T00:30:56.268-08:00one says something, the other says something else....one says something, the other says something else. and we already have a fight. because this is better, and that is better than the other thing.why do we always take everything so personally? -- aaargh damnit, my mötley crüe cd in the record player just ended :-( so, let&#39;s start it again: shout at the devil!!!!!! :-)Flavienhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03384922416819202416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-51394594695122488712011-01-07T16:27:06.497-08:002011-01-07T16:27:06.497-08:00bizarro seagal: you wish.bizarro seagal: you wish.john e mumbleshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08768421376288655378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-39715124090174067162011-01-07T14:43:44.692-08:002011-01-07T14:43:44.692-08:00Re (James Ford and) the Shimano Roshi business -
...Re (James Ford and) the Shimano Roshi business -<br /><br />Moral outrage...public condemnation...written constitutions...ethics committees... <br /><br />And so it begins.<br /><br /><br />If you are inappropriately handled by anyone - Zen Master or passing pervert - kick him in the bollocks (or her in the wherever) and/or go to the police and/or LEAVE.<br /><br /><br />...but nobody asked my opinion, did they?<br /><br />captcha = swinesanon #108http://www.blogger.com/profile/11399370114175682139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-78607052654499882612011-01-07T12:02:02.831-08:002011-01-07T12:02:02.831-08:00I&#39;m no hillbilly singer.I&#39;m no hillbilly singer.bizarro seagalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04879461706416255904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-20959833168186689932011-01-07T11:14:41.146-08:002011-01-07T11:14:41.146-08:00Let me hope that it&#39;s the inclusion of the htm...Let me hope that it&#39;s the inclusion of the html tags on the link, and I&#39;ll try without them:<br /><br />I watched Issho Fujita demonstrate the stretches involved in the sitting posture up at Sonoma Mountain the other day, and I was very impressed. Afterward I commented that while he spoke of stretches in two directions, in my experience it&#39;s more like three directions (pitch, yaw, and roll). He was very accepting of my comments, even when I went on to mention that in my perspective, the pulmonary and cranial-sacral respirations place consciousness to open feeling. In this I find myself strangely in accord with Gudo&#39;s SNS and PNS. <br /><br />The Pali Cannon is unique in the literature of the world, in my opinion; someone on Tao Bums asked &quot;at some point within Buddhism, do you use lose the structure?&quot;, and the Cannon made sense to me, like this:<br /><br />http://www.zenmudra.com/zazen-notes/blog_detail.php?post_id=42Mark Footehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05443417871666702857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-89132267374769534492011-01-07T10:50:56.155-08:002011-01-07T10:50:56.155-08:00Anybody else find their comments not appearing her...Anybody else find their comments not appearing here?- I got an email stating that my comment had been added, and there was nothing offensive about it. <br /><br />Vanished, as will we all!Mark Footehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05443417871666702857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-63763842373564611432011-01-07T09:57:45.736-08:002011-01-07T09:57:45.736-08:00In the midst of movement and chaos, keep stillness...In the midst of movement and chaos, keep stillness inside of you.Seagal Rinpochehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16469367742833021363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-14088343561349352802011-01-07T09:23:28.587-08:002011-01-07T09:23:28.587-08:00Hi Puzzle,
It wasn&#39;t the authors&#39; intenti...Hi Puzzle,<br /><br />It wasn&#39;t the authors&#39; intention to negate religion or philosophy, or what we think and what values we ourselves hold. Master Dogen was indicating a way, and a specific method, by which we can understand what we think and feel for what &#39;they&#39; really are (us real-ising them, them real-ising us).<br /><br />Dogen&#39;s approach is very positive in this regard; it doesn&#39;t need to philosophically negate things as was/is often the case in Buddhist theory.<br /><br />I think Nishijima Sensei considers that the theory of the ANS takes Buddhism out of the realm of mystery/ blind faith/ religion and brings it into the area of philosophy in that it is possible (as some see it) to understand and explain it holistically.<br /><br />I think it can be said that Buddhism is a philosophy, but not one based in idealism (as much of Western philosophy is), because it&#39;s fundamental value is our own real practice/conduct/actions, which are not confined to a philosophy or any other thought.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Harry.Harryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05168631752214481563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-91647445556329558462011-01-07T08:58:38.204-08:002011-01-07T08:58:38.204-08:00Nishijima Roshi said Buddhism is no longer a relig...Nishijima Roshi said Buddhism is no longer a religion but has evolved into a state in which it is now a philosophy.<br /><br />- Now how do you accommodate this reasonably with the last quote H supplied?<br /><br />- I mean - without reducing yourself to the attitude introduced in the last quote supplied by mumbles Rinpoche.<br /><br /><br />- Ai?<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />- I’d dare say: - Admitting ignorance is always more fruitful than self deceit.Puzzlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-49104744500444476132011-01-07T08:03:17.393-08:002011-01-07T08:03:17.393-08:00Brad,
This is off topic but I do hope it gets your...Brad,<br />This is off topic but I do hope it gets your attention and a response.<br />Regarding the Shimano Roshi business, I look at the Monkey Mind blog where there is an ongoing post of letters by Zen teachers and Roshis expressing their support of for the removal of ESR by the board of directors at ZSS....<br />why the hell did it take decades for any of this to surface. Reading these posts it is obvious top leaders and teachers in the Zen world knew about this for years and years?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-29751626883364452372011-01-07T06:35:46.556-08:002011-01-07T06:35:46.556-08:00Oh, Anon 108 I meant to address that to...Oh, Anon 108 I meant to address that to...Harryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05168631752214481563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-82195431920590886952011-01-07T06:34:16.628-08:002011-01-07T06:34:16.628-08:00Hi Anon,
I think the context of Dogen&#39;s &#39;...Hi Anon,<br /><br />I think the context of Dogen&#39;s &#39;philosophy&#39; is really not an either/or, or either+or, matter. I think his rationale &#39;leaps free from abundance or lack&#39; (or any mix of the two).<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />H.Harryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05168631752214481563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-60051499389277131562011-01-07T06:11:04.236-08:002011-01-07T06:11:04.236-08:00Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradi...Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes.<br /><br />-Walt Whitmanjohn e mumbleshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08768421376288655378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-80866185740576414362011-01-07T05:27:26.301-08:002011-01-07T05:27:26.301-08:00Okumura/Leighton may be right, Harry. And I know w...Okumura/Leighton may be right, Harry. And I know what you mean...<br /><br />There again, there is much of what Dogen wrote which, I believe, clearly demonstrates that he did have a (non-static?) &#39;philosophy&#39; - which included and transcended specific, local issues like lay versus monastic practice. <br /><br />I believe that Dogen was very much aware of/consciously desirous of producing a body of writing which would be read by people long after the talks had been talked and he and his audience had shuffled off this mortal coil (his likely intention to revise the whole Shobogenzo is evidence, I think).<br /><br />So - not just one or the other...probably ;)anon #108http://www.blogger.com/profile/11399370114175682139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-24894296663410408502011-01-07T04:58:40.760-08:002011-01-07T04:58:40.760-08:00It seems to me that there certainly is a &#39;hier...It seems to me that there certainly is a &#39;hierarchy of wisdom&#39; in that some people act more wise than others at any given moment... this is a moment-to-moment situation of course and the person who was wise one moment may be the ass the next and vice-versa; so maybe I should be careful in drawing conclusions even if there are noticeable general trends.<br /><br />...And on reifying &#39;Dogen&#39;s View/Philosophy&#39; on whatever: Here&#39;s an interesting point that hopped out of the intro to Okumura&#39;s and Leighton&#39;s trans. of the Eihei Shingi:<br /><br /><i>&quot;While some of Dogen&#39;s writing have rightfully earned him the modern reputation as a great philosopher, he was never concerned with producing a new, dogmatically consistent, philosophical doctrine along the lines of Western philosophical theories. Rather, his philosophy was always at the service of his main purpose: that of religious practitioner and spiritual guide.<br /><br />The meaning of Dogen&#39;s words must be realized in their context of practical teachings for particular students. From the viewpoint of sincere spiritual practice, rather than the intellectual calculations and limited conceptualizations of consistency that are sharply criticized throughout Zen literature, Dogen&#39;s work can be seen as simply the natural unfolding of one person&#39;s awakened mind/heart.&quot;</i><br /><br />Where we see Dogen as &#39;contradicting himself&#39; (from the particular perspective indicated above) maybe we should rather see fluidity and responsivity to the current situation, and an absence of philosophical/intellectual stasis.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Harry.Harryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05168631752214481563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-80926589168129480482011-01-07T04:31:56.044-08:002011-01-07T04:31:56.044-08:00I look forward to it, Roman.
For the record - I ...I look forward to it, Roman. <br /><br />For the record - I get the impression that some folk(s) might have got the impression I was advocating, or approving of either lay practice or monastic practice...or that I believe Dogen was...or that he simply changed his mind...or that Brad is right and Muho wrong or vice versa.<br /><br />I wasn&#39;t. I&#39;m not. I never said so. <br /><br />As I wrote yesterday @3.27am, <i>&quot;Either view</i> [whether Dogen was encouraging his audience or changed his mind about lay/monastic practice] <i>is fine with me. I didn&#39;t say, or mean to suggest that one or other was right. I did mean to say that the attitude Dogen expresses in Raihai Tokuzui [quoted by Roman on the first page] works for me</i> [I am not a monk].&quot; <br /><br />Other than to make known that Dogen said different things at different times about lay/monk practice, and so can be quoted by either &#39;camp&#39; to support their view (if they&#39;re so inclined), and to point out that there are no right answers to these questions, I had no other purpose or agenda.anon #108http://www.blogger.com/profile/11399370114175682139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-77352289169994520072011-01-07T03:20:22.283-08:002011-01-07T03:20:22.283-08:00I think most of us here have made the mistake of s...I think most of us here have made the mistake of supposing there is some kind of &quot;hierarchy of wisdom&quot;. Malcolm, I am going to write a text about this problem at my blog.romanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03183650998043209540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-4674834151442875482011-01-07T01:38:51.583-08:002011-01-07T01:38:51.583-08:00Fascinating.Fascinating.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-9493150589787398102011-01-06T22:58:07.358-08:002011-01-06T22:58:07.358-08:00Brit English: mate = friend
US English: mate = gay...Brit English: mate = friend<br />US English: mate = gay partner<br /><br />Are all Brits gays or are all Americans? Can&#39;t figure it out.<br /><br />Hot SusanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-37991709339491681262011-01-06T18:28:16.752-08:002011-01-06T18:28:16.752-08:00250!250!Sestercentennialnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-1324157905404850702011-01-06T18:22:56.351-08:002011-01-06T18:22:56.351-08:00I became brain dead
makin&#39; all the bread
sprea...I became brain dead<br />makin&#39; all the bread<br />spread out on the bed<br />don&#39;t know what she said<br />I got the street cred<br />an now I&#39;m gettin&#39; head<br />and she&#39;s been fed<br />but I&#39;m not gettin&#39; a-head<br />with these feet of lead<br />seems like the more I sped<br />I wound up naked<br />then I got dressed instead<br />and fu*king dropped dead.Mysteryrhymennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-68547319018712723142011-01-06T17:07:09.458-08:002011-01-06T17:07:09.458-08:00Where are ya, Colly-anon?
Gimme a hug!Where are ya, Colly-anon?<br />Gimme a hug!anon #108http://www.blogger.com/profile/11399370114175682139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-48340219102548450702011-01-06T17:04:54.136-08:002011-01-06T17:04:54.136-08:00Hmmnnn... Is &quot;back pages&quot; some homo code...Hmmnnn... Is &quot;back pages&quot; some homo code for shagging male interns in the anterooms of the nation&#39;s capitol?Knobby Dnoreply@blogger.com