I get yelled at for pointing out ppl afking or doing like 10k dps on bosses, why am i the bad guy in this scenario.
And i keep seeing ilvl 500+ people afking, and when i call em out on it they become super defensive, its sad.
At least when i tank im like. kick the leechers or im out, most of the times they get kicked :>

Sure, but back in 4.3 they could chain run the 3 5-mans, get 378 gear, then do LFR, and then start another alt because that's what they could do.
While I am not a fan of not having a catch-up system, instant catch-up is not the best for a lot of people.

I think that they need to get 5.0 VP items moved to JP and/or their rep removed in 5.4, otherwise it will take way too long.

I get yelled at for pointing out ppl afking or doing like 10k dps on bosses, why am i the bad guy in this scenario.
And i keep seeing ilvl 500+ people afking, and when i call em out on it they become super defensive, its sad.
At least when i tank im like. kick the leechers or im out, most of the times they get kicked :>

Depends on how you do it. Being unfriendly and condenscending or a prat or having an attitude will basically affect everyone negatively. If you give off an aura of disapproval in what you write, bordering to unfriendliness, everyone will feel that even if it's only aimed at the AFK guy - the atmosphere will change, it's just not desirable, that's why people come down on you and not the AFK guy.

Just point it out in a neutral way and leave it at that. "Superdruidxxboy has been afk since start" and leave it at that, don't engage in discussion, just, that's it, you state how it is and that's that. Initiate a kick if you so desire and see if other people can be bothered to kick him too (which is usually the case).

You can't get through an LFR encounter with half the DPS team doing autoattacks.

So, what you're engaging in here is a literary device called "hyperbole."

Hyperbole is the literary equivalent of being AFK, by the way.

Originally Posted by melodramocracy

You really need to learn how to exaggerate more.

Yes you can. Actually correct device used here is "understatement". You can get through LFR with 4/5 of your team doing 0 DPS lying drooling on the floor after first Durumu's disintegration beam. Yes, I've participated in such kills.

Sure, but back in 4.3 they could chain run the 3 5-mans, get 378 gear, then do LFR, and then start another alt because that's what they could do.
While I am not a fan of not having a catch-up system, instant catch-up is not the best for a lot of people.

I think that they need to get 5.0 VP items moved to JP and/or their rep removed in 5.4, otherwise it will take way too long.

ToT is not a raid tuned for 489 gear. You will still need to run LFR to catch up. It's not instant and it's not fast enough either. It's still to fucking slow.

---------- Post added 2013-04-30 at 01:19 AM ----------

Originally Posted by Lemonpartyfan

These things happened in LFR even when 4.3 was current, WITH the catch-up feature you mentioned.

No not really. Of course I had the choice to opt out of the thing and catch up with quick and easy painless dungeons and the gear I could buy from them. Not so much anymore.

The hammer comes down:

Originally Posted by Osmeric

Normal should be reduced in difficulty. Heroic should be reduced in difficulty.
And the tiny fraction for whom heroic raids are currently well tuned? Too bad,so sad! With the arterial bleed of subs the fastest it's ever been, the vanity development that gives you guys your own content is no longer supportable.

I don't know why they don't just disable /follow in LFR like they did in BGs. What complaint could people have besides "but now I can't AFK!" LFR =/= low lvl dungeons, where multiboxers can /follow and the group will be ok.

Yes, there was still bads and plenty of wiping, with the 4.3 horrible catch up implemented.

And I didn't need to deal with a single fucking one of them when I bought raid level gear from instant catch up. Enjoy reaping what you've sown.

The hammer comes down:

Originally Posted by Osmeric

Normal should be reduced in difficulty. Heroic should be reduced in difficulty.
And the tiny fraction for whom heroic raids are currently well tuned? Too bad,so sad! With the arterial bleed of subs the fastest it's ever been, the vanity development that gives you guys your own content is no longer supportable.

I get yelled at for pointing out ppl afking or doing like 10k dps on bosses, why am i the bad guy in this scenario.
And i keep seeing ilvl 500+ people afking, and when i call em out on it they become super defensive, its sad.
At least when i tank im like. kick the leechers or im out, most of the times they get kicked :>

if there are enough baddies in the group you will find yourself the one kicked. saddly the current mentality with dps is that there are 2 tanks and 16 of them so you are easily replaced.

---------- Post added 2013-04-30 at 11:13 AM ----------

Originally Posted by rowaasr13

Yes you can. Actually correct device used here is "understatement". You can get through LFR with 4/5 of your team doing 0 DPS lying drooling on the floor after first Durumu's disintegration beam. Yes, I've participated in such kills.

Same. My first Durumo raid finder kill consisted of myself as tank and a couple healers and one dps standing and killing him after the first maze.

Shitty lfr as a catch up mechanic. Instant catch up was to good and you all whined about how much it left with little to do (even though their was a ton of crap left for you) and making gearing harder again was supposed to save this fucking game. You all wanted tiered raiding back. You got it. It's called LFR assholes. Enjoy.

The hammer comes down:

Originally Posted by Osmeric

Normal should be reduced in difficulty. Heroic should be reduced in difficulty.
And the tiny fraction for whom heroic raids are currently well tuned? Too bad,so sad! With the arterial bleed of subs the fastest it's ever been, the vanity development that gives you guys your own content is no longer supportable.

Shitty lfr as a catch up mechanic. Instant catch up was to good and you all whined about how much it left with little to do (even though their was a ton of crap left for you) and making gearing harder again was supposed to save this fucking game. You all wanted tiered raiding back. You got it. It's called LFR assholes. Enjoy.

You actually don't know what I whined about lmao. Instant or quicck catch ups shouldn't be in the game as far as I'm concerned. You should have to actually play your character to get end game.

And no, LFR is a difficulty, and isn't purely a tiered raiding feature. Tiered raiding existed before LFR.

Shitty lfr as a catch up mechanic. Instant catch up was to good and you all whined about how much it left with little to do (even though their was a ton of crap left for you) and making gearing harder again was supposed to save this fucking game. You all wanted tiered raiding back. You got it. It's called LFR assholes. Enjoy.

to all elitists, dont worry, soon the heroic scenarios will come out and there will no longer be any reason to do lfr.
just hold on and soon we can laugh knowing that lfr grps will wipe cuz no1 is carrying them anymore

to all elitists, dont worry, soon the heroic scenarios will come out and there will no longer be any reason to do lfr.
just hold on and soon we can laugh knowing that lfr grps will wipe cuz no1 is carrying them anymore

Until they nerf those, because everyone should be able to easily complete anything in this game.