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Another thing I noticed were the comparisons to C Palmer. Word is that CP is no longer "elite", and that he tends to choke (basically what I've been saying). I know I said I wouldn't post there for the fall, but I'm seriously tempted to post this in the Bengals smack forum just to get a reaction.

Another thing I noticed were the comparisons to C Palmer. Word is that CP is no longer "elite", and that he tends to choke (basically what I've been saying). I know I said I wouldn't post there for the fall, but I'm seriously tempted to post this in the Bengals smack forum just to get a reaction.

Eh, message boards are all about people's opinions, so it won't go very far on the Bungles smack forum. That being said, I think it's clear that Ben is the better quarterback between him and Palmer.

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Re: Big Ben getting props on CHFF

I don't know about that. Bengals fans tend to be very protective of their QB, regardless of where the criticism comes from. It's bound to get at least a few angry responses.

I'm not getting into the whole "who's better" debate, but there's still a strong notion going on among many Bengals fans (and even a couple Steelers fans) tha Ben Roethlisberger is a game manager and Carson Palmer is "elite". I and many other people tend to disagree.

I just found this forum amusing because some are saying exactly what I've been saying.

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Re: Big Ben getting props on CHFF

I got a chuckle out of the Packers fan who said Ben throws too many picks to be considered elite.

First off, Favre holds the interceptions record. Secondly, do the math and you'll see there's not much difference. Favre has 8,758 attempts and 288 picks. Ben has 1,436 attempts and 54 picks. I'm not much of a math person, but just by eyeballing it I can see the percentage isn't that much different.

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Re: Big Ben getting props on CHFF

I don't know about that. Bengals fans tend to be very protective of their QB, regardless of where the criticism comes from. It's bound to get at least a few angry responses.

I'm not getting into the whole "who's better" debate, but there's still a strong notion going on among many Bengals fans (and even a couple Steelers fans) tha Ben Roethlisberger is a game manager and Carson Palmer is "elite". I and many other people tend to disagree.

I just found this forum amusing because some are saying exactly what I've been saying.

Oh no, I didn't mean that they wouln'd get their panties in a bunch, but that they will just dismiss it right away being only a message board. Right now, Ben Roethlisberger is the better QB.

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Re: Big Ben getting props on CHFF

Originally Posted by stlrz d

I got a chuckle out of the Packers fan who said Ben throws too many picks to be considered elite.

First off, Favre holds the interceptions record. Secondly, do the math and you'll see there's not much difference. Favre has 8,758 attempts and 288 picks. Ben has 1,436 attempts and 54 picks. I'm not much of a math person, but just by eyeballing it I can see the percentage isn't that much different.

Ben has 54 picks in 55 starts. Carson has 63 picks in 61 starts.

Of Ben's picks, he had 23 picks in the season coming off the motorcycle accident, appendectomy, concusssion, etc. He's averaged about 10 INT's per year for the other 3 years.

Forced patriotism is an oxymoron.

A government leader proclaiming that citizens have to stand proudly for the National Anthem or else they shouldn't be in the country sounds more like a mandated decree from a totalitarian dictator like Kim Jong Un rather than the leader of the Free World.

Our ability to peacefully protest is a fundamental American right, and any attempt by our government to squash this freedom is what is truly dishonoring the liberty that our Star Spangled Banner symbolizes.