There were several people there, a few of the old regulars and a couple I didn't know... When I started knocking on that 150 yard steel with a Glock it got everybody's attention.

Sorta took me by surprise that everybody was so shocked... One of them has a G20 he's been trying to sell, said he can't hit the broad side of a barn with it.

I must have answered 100 questions regarding what all I had done to it... Which, as you all know, isn't much... Just the 7" KKM barrel and a 25 cent trigger job.

I put the lighter load that I have worked up on paper at 50 yards, from a solid rest... Several groups... I averaged 2.5 inches... Another guy shot it, one of the old regulars, and someone with far more pistol experience than me produced a group just under 2".

I got asked to see if I could hit the 300 yard steel (36" x 36", hard to miss really)... Ran the shot through the Applied Ballistics app to get the drop, held 8.5 feet over the center of the target.... And nailed it on the first try.

Did that without any kind of secondary rest ... I used one of Elmer Keith's shooting positions.... Sitting, back against the concrete bench, pistol clamped between my knees for extra support.... That is a pretty solid shooting position.

Going to be trying these high dollar bullets, 190 grain Cutting Edge solid (copper)...hoping I can get them to around 1,350 fps from the 7" barrel.

They are a long bullet at .725", so the load will likely be compressed using #9, maybe not though...just have to see.

If compression becomes an issue, I'll switch to magnum primers.

Why these bullets?I tried cast bullets (Beartooth and my own castings) once before in 45-70 and had barrel leading issues with everything but reduced loads, just didn't come away with a positive attitude towards lead bullets even though I had good instruction on it (Veral Smith, Ranch Dog, and some others...if you know those guys)...sold my casting equipment, almost all my lead, and everything...won't be doing any more casting.

But, these copper bullets have a good meplat on them, should behave just like a lead slug as far as terminal performance goes....CEB claims they went over 50" in clear ballistics gel.

These are expensive, but I won't be using many of them, maybe 20 per year after initial load development and sight in.

I keep reading all this about meplats and penetration, decided since pistols are weak anyway I wanted the best bullet I could find... And no lead... I'm not the tree hugger type where lead is concerned, the reasons I won't use it have nothing to do with condors or water fowl...

It's just the eccentricities of loading it that I don't like or have time for... Oversize bullets and not swaging them when seating, balancing that with enough neck tension to not set back in a semi auto, etc.

In a wheel gun, I'd just buy Beartooth.... But in the Glock, I'm rolling with copper.

I've been emailing back and forth with Cutting Edge Bullets, concerning load data... They gave me some QuickLoad data that I had already come up with myself, calibrated to their bullet specs.

That's all they had, but they are adamant that any reputable load data for a similar weight bullet can be used as long as the bullet is seated per the loading instructions... That is .266" sticking out of the case, which should work fine in most any pistol with proper length brass.... It will come out to 1.25" to 1.26" overall length.

The bullets arrived today but it will be a little bit before I get there to do anything with them.

Decided to try a 20# spring in the G40...the factory RSA has been working fine, no issues at all, but as I got used to shooting the pistol I noticed I can feel the slide bottoming out on the frame pretty hard.

Didn't notice it at first, but as I got accustomed to the feel and sound of shooting it...I noticed it quite handily.

Did some crude math and decided that for my slide/barrel weight (slide, 7" barrel, and a Leupold Deltapoint Pro) a 20 pound spring was more or less equal to a 24# spring on a bare topped G20 slide.

I got the Glockmeister version...I've always used Wolff springs but since they're behind the curve on the Gen 4 Glock assemblies I guess I'll see what ISMI is all about.

I wish someone would get some dual captured setups on the market in increased spring weights...I like the dual spring concept myself.

I'm tired of waiting on Hornady to make a run of the 200 XTP.... I called them months ago, they said they'd have them by the end of October... But they don't.

Tired of messing with them... So Nosler it is, I'd prefer a little tougher bullet than the Nosler... I wish they'd make their 10mm bullets in bonded form... Same bullet, just bonded.

On the bright side... I don't expect any issues with expansion at 100 yards (~1,075 fps)... From 25 - 100 yards I believe they'll be ok....it's that shot at 50 feet that worries me, from the videos and pictures I've seen, this bullet isn't quite tough enough for 1,300+ fps in every situation.

I'm a shoulder shooter, don't like tracking much... Not that I cannot do it (I have a really good blood trailing dog now too)... I'd just prefer to anchor them with a shoulder shot.... But with the Nosler bullets, I'm staying off the shoulder in all cases.

Loaded a few of the Nosler bullets tonight, they do load easier than the XTP's... The Noslers can be seated with a flat seater plug without crushing the nose, at least as long as you don't try to stuff more than 12.6 grains of AA9 under it.

Tomorrow is the G40's first day hunting, I'll be using the 200 grain XTP's to hunt with, I have 18 loaded and left over from the last range trip.... Those are what its sighted in with.

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