I was that way with the collectors tins for ages. I bought over 20 of them without ever pulling an ultra, but then it all evened out and I opened a good ten in a row with one or more ultras each; no exceptions.

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Oof. Reading your comment about prices.I remember spending $85 for a DoP box trying to complete the set and get a Maxxor/Chaor after they had moved on to MI. Luckily, I never had much money so I was able to limit myself (God knows how much I would have spent otherwise).Since prices have plummeted though, I think it's safe to say I've invested $400 in post downfall Chaotic. Maybe more here and there.

Before Chaotic fell, I would spend my $10 a week allowance on cards. Local card shop was friendly and they gave us a deal 3/$10 which helped. Probably spent $450 in solid boxes and $50 in Premium Packs to try and improve odds of Ultras. Chaotic was around for about 2 years so my $10 a week would be about $1000, but I imagine I had a few other things I spent $$$ on. So say I saved/spent $400 on other stuff that I can't remember, 14 y/o me had $600 worth of cards? I always told myself it was an investment. Getting a UR Creature would pay for a box if you sold it (which I always told myself I would do but never did) and SR Creatures would run about $20 average so buying a box for $50 could easily break even. I wanted to start an empire, but little me couldn't part with my cards. Still can't. I'm a hoarder. I love little cheap things that I can buy en masse just to see the piles sitting somewhere. :p

I don't know where this spending puts me on the map in terms of investment then/now, but I'm interested to see other people's estimates.

cromax123456 wrote:Anyone remember if there's a guaranteed holo card out of the 4 cards in a starter deck? I'm planning on buying a bunch of them in order to hit generic creatures and past creature upgrades

Every starter deck, regardless of type, has a guaranteed super or ultra. The ultra rare comes at a 1:3 chance though.

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ketac123 wrote:wait 1 in 3? i always thought it was 1 in 10 for all starters

I am possibly mixing the ratios on secondary cards in tins with starter decks, but I'm not entirely sure at the moment. Hmm... It's been years and years since those ratios were available anywhere officially.

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