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Official Marbury Banned from Knicks Thread

The following statement was released this afternoon by Donnie Walsh, President, Basketball Operations of the New York Knicks:

“After meeting with Stephon and his representative this afternoon, we have directed Stephon not to participate in practice or attend games until further notice. We want to continue to meet with him to discuss a long-term resolution.”

It's a shame it had to come down to this, for both parties. At least now the players and coaching staff can focus 100% on the Knicks gameplan and not be distracted by this media frenzy.

I feel bad for Steph, his time on the Knicks is over and the past is the past, a talented player like him should have been smarter and got himself into position to play for a contender, instead he's gonna be rotting for god knows how long and fast losing his foothold in the NBA.

Mabury should snuff these hoes, for trying to to blame him for not doing Eddy Curry and Jerome James' job. I'd like to see where Houston, Starks, or any other respected Knick, would have been, if they had to deal with Curry as their starting center.

Give Steph a chance to play on a quality team, with a real center, and you'll see what he can do. I'm not a Steph fan, but I understand how a player can be unlucky, in that he can wind up on crappy teams, where success is not possible. Anyone who actually has played organized ball, or has coached, knows that it's not about one or two players, when it comes to success. You need a team of competent players, in order to win, especially at the center position.

Mabury should snuff these hoes, for trying to to blame him for not doing Eddy Curry and Jerome James' job. I'd like to see where Houston, Starks, or any other respected Knick, would have been, if they had to deal with Curry as their starting center.

Give Steph a chance to play on a quality team, with a real center, and you'll see what he can do. I'm not a Steph fan, but I understand how a player can be unlucky, in that he can wind up on crappy teams.

I don't think any good teams would want him. Mike Monroe of San Antonio Express News fame says the Spurs don't want him. Where do you see him possibly going?

I'll post this again cuz I thought it was pretty funny

"I'd rather start Nick Van Exel pulling the perpetually wounded body of Speedy Claxton up and down the court in a rickshaw than have Marbury coming off the bench for the vet minimum."

Watch this video for the story behind the beef between Marbury and his teamates.

Apparently a few seasons ago when Q-Rich's family member died, Stephon said some offensive things that had 2 Knicks having to restrain Q. Then Q was waiting outside the parking lot for Marbs, the Knicks had to call Q's sister to calm him down and convince him to go home.

That scene right there is a probably a big reason why no one on the team wants steph around.

I hope this is temporary, because it's bad for both parties. We waste a roster spot on Marbury, and Marbury doesn't get to play. They need to negotiate a buyout quickly.

I agree 100%.

I actually wish Marbury the best of luck wherever he eventually winds up, but it has been clear for a long time his time was up here. He wasn't wanted by his teamates, coach, and more than half the fans (and probably 3/4ths of the NBA).

The faster this resolves itself the better for both sides. The Knicks can bring in a player to fill out their depleted roster and Marbury can try to salvage his career and reputation.

Watch this video for the story behind the beef between Marbury and his teamates.

Apparently a few seasons ago when Q-Rich's family member died, Stephon said some offensive things that had 2 Knicks having to restrain Q. Then Q was waiting outside the parking lot for Marbs, the Knicks had to call Q's sister to calm him down and convince him to go home.

That scene right there is a probably a big reason why no one on the team wants steph around.

Wow, that was a great interview with Stephen A Smith. I think he touched on all the important facts.

Well as the video says there seems to be people (outside of this forum :P) who sympathise with Marbury, and if there is a place for him on another team where we can bring in someone and their contract is expiring too there could be a really good resolution for the Knicks franchise. We can only hope.

And lol at the Qrich vs Steph carpark incident, would have loved to see that on pay-per-view

Stephen A. Smith never said that Q said anything about Richardson's dead family member, which seems to be what you imply in your post.

People continually bring up Q, as if he has any right to talk about anything, but Q is a bum, with no talent. Nothing he's done has made the Knicks better, he shouldn't even be getting minutes, let alone starting. If you watch his behavior, he's clearly a smug, egotistical *******. He also has proven to be a snitch, along with Malik Rose, who constantly talks to the press about his teammates, on an off the record basis.

San Antonio might not want him, but I don't think that means no other team wants him. I think lots of good teams are going to look at Marbury, long and hard, because a guy like him could be the missing piece they need, the difference between winning and advancing in the post season.

This is one of the comments underneath the video posted above...I don't know the guy who wrote it or anything like that, but I thought what he said speaks volumes:

"Bugchaser21 (Mon Dec 01 2008 18:49:03 GMT-0500 (EST))
I'm sick of these spoiled people (not athletes) getting paid millions to play a game....... I really take it personal when a person who has never spent one night in a foxhole with lead showering down on them use this excuse for his team's behavior about him. I'm a 18 year active duty member who has 4 combat tours of duty and I make less than 50,000 a year after taxes and I've never looked over at Mr. Marbury in my foxhole and seen him by my side. Much less had the taxpayers by out my contract for 21 million, yes military personel sign a contract."

I don't know, I'm not in the military but I kind of agree, to be calling himself a soldier in a foxhole...I don't know it seems kind of offensive.

Edit: Yeah OG it doesn't say he said anything about the family member but the point is we kind of know where this hostility is coming from. The point is Marbury said SOMETHING after Q's cousin died that set him off, we might never know what it was, whether a reasonable person would have felt angered in Q's situation or not but that's where it's coming from...I had never heard anything about that (not sure if you had) but I think Q feels that Steph is not a good teammate and even less respectful of people's personal lives and Q obviously took exception to that (whether he was right or wrong).

Confusion

I am a little confused as to what the Knicks can or can not do about Marbury. Hahn, and I believe other reporters, have suggested that, without his agreement, the Knicks can not simply send Marbury home and away from the team even though they continue to pay him under his contract and he occupies a roster spot. Smith's report and Walsh's press release suggest otherwise.

I took a look at the Collective Bargaining Agreement. I did not read the whole thing, but with the hlp of the Index I read a good portion. I could not find anything directly on point -- i.e., suggesting that the Knicks needed Marbury's agreement to exile him from the team.

There is a No Lock-Out provision -- Article XXX, Section 2 --- that says that during the term of the agreement "neither the NBA or its Teams shall engage in any lockouts, cessation or stoppages of work or any other similar interference with the employment of NBA players by NBA Teams. . . ." Perhaps this covers it.

Does anyone know whether the Knicks need his agreement to send him off with pay?

im neutral with this whole steph debate, but it is sad to see him end his career in new york like this, from the moment D'Antoni stepped into MSG we all knew steph was on a short leash, but who knew it wud be so short that he wudnt even get to play lol? i dont like steph's attitude, but in this instance, if i was in steph's shoes what would i say? he did get disrespected, and walsh did the wrong thing by keeping him here and giving him and knicks fans false hope that he had a chance 2 play. i wish him well 2 what ever team he goes 2 next, but until he has the pride to understand that he will never win a championship as the number one option, and be WILLING TO ACCEPT A LESSER ROLE(which i think he can) he'll neva get any rings