This "new" chip was identified as a re-work of an existing Xeon processor already on the market. So showing off an overclocked currently available chip using custom closed loop chiller is "new"? Sure seems like Intel is throwing whatever they can into the news stream to get attention again.

This "new" chip was identified as a re-work of an existing Xeon processor already on the market. So showing off an overclocked currently available chip using custom closed loop chiller is "new"? Sure seems like Intel is throwing whatever they can into the news stream to get attention again.

Not trying to get attention in general, but trying to steal AMD's thunder on their 32 core Threadripper announcement.

Any word on when the hell Intel will finally come out with 10nm desktop chips? Last I heard it was some time in 2019? It's been pushed back so many times I wouldn't be surprised if it was pushed to 2020 at this point.

This "new" chip was identified as a re-work of an existing Xeon processor already on the market. So showing off an overclocked currently available chip using custom closed loop chiller is "new"? Sure seems like Intel is throwing whatever they can into the news stream to get attention again.

Not trying to get attention in general, but trying to steal AMD's thunder on their 32 core Threadripper announcement.

Any word on when the hell Intel will finally come out with 10nm desktop chips? Last I heard it was some time in 2019? It's been pushed back so many times I wouldn't be surprised if it was pushed to 2020 at this point.

Scuttlebutt seems to say that Intel made a fundamental error in their choice of materials for the 10nm process and that it is still broken, needing a total re-do from start. Might as well swallow the pill and move to 7nm, IMO.

Any word on when the hell Intel will finally come out with 10nm desktop chips? Last I heard it was some time in 2019? It's been pushed back so many times I wouldn't be surprised if it was pushed to 2020 at this point.

Scuttlebutt seems to say that Intel made a fundamental error in their choice of materials for the 10nm process and that it is still broken, needing a total re-do from start. Might as well swallow the pill and move to 7nm, IMO.

If they do that they can't sell you the same processor twice. First at 10nm and then again 100 Mhz faster at 7nm. Won't someone think of the shareholders?

Any word on when the hell Intel will finally come out with 10nm desktop chips? Last I heard it was some time in 2019? It's been pushed back so many times I wouldn't be surprised if it was pushed to 2020 at this point.

Scuttlebutt seems to say that Intel made a fundamental error in their choice of materials for the 10nm process and that it is still broken, needing a total re-do from start. Might as well swallow the pill and move to 7nm, IMO.

If they do that they can't sell you the same processor twice. First at 10nm and then again 100 Mhz faster at 7nm. Won't someone think of the shareholders?

If their 10nm process arrives at the same time as competitor's 7nm process, Intel won't be able to sell 10nm chips just the same.

Any word on when the hell Intel will finally come out with 10nm desktop chips? Last I heard it was some time in 2019? It's been pushed back so many times I wouldn't be surprised if it was pushed to 2020 at this point.

Scuttlebutt seems to say that Intel made a fundamental error in their choice of materials for the 10nm process and that it is still broken, needing a total re-do from start. Might as well swallow the pill and move to 7nm, IMO.

If they do that they can't sell you the same processor twice. First at 10nm and then again 100 Mhz faster at 7nm. Won't someone think of the shareholders?

If their 10nm process arrives at the same time as competitor's 7nm process, Intel won't be able to sell 10nm chips just the same.

Since when has Intel needed to be competitive to sell processors? Also with the diminishing returns between die shrinks I really doubt a 7nm processor is going to be some legendary leap in performance over the same design at 10nm.

If Intel had no intention of misleading the press, they would have issued a correction within minutes or hours of the demo, not several days later in the wake of competitive announcements.

I'm surprised they didn't wait until 4:59pm Pacific to make the "correction". Bury it in the weekend news.

I don't think Intel ever owned up to it. The story was broken the next day by Tom's Hardware and Anandtech. Immediately afterwards, Intel went to the Gigabyte and Asus booths that were demo-ing systems with this chip and took the chips back.

Wow, so Intel teases a HEDT chip with 28 cores, AMD one-ups them with a 32 core Threadripper, and then Intel forgets to mention that the motherboards don't exist yet, the socket for that motherboard has never been released on a consumer board and is massive, the 5 GHz they reached might as well have been one of those unattainable extreme overclocks, AND it's going to cost some ungodly amount of money?

So AMD comes off looking really good out of this, because it's feasible that some Threadripper boards already out will be fine for Threadripper 2 and they didn't lie about the top frequencies. Intel basically pied themselves and boosted AMD in the process. Just... stunning.

Any word on when the hell Intel will finally come out with 10nm desktop chips? Last I heard it was some time in 2019? It's been pushed back so many times I wouldn't be surprised if it was pushed to 2020 at this point.

Scuttlebutt seems to say that Intel made a fundamental error in their choice of materials for the 10nm process and that it is still broken, needing a total re-do from start. Might as well swallow the pill and move to 7nm, IMO.

There's no evidence it's cobalt.

The origin of the cobalt hypothesis seems to be- Oh, intel has swtiched to cobalt for the 2 lower metal layers.- Oh, I wonder if cobal is giving them trouble....- Oh, cobalt must be the cause for the 10 nm delays!- (people start to come up with reason's why it must be cobalt).

Any word on when the hell Intel will finally come out with 10nm desktop chips? Last I heard it was some time in 2019? It's been pushed back so many times I wouldn't be surprised if it was pushed to 2020 at this point.

Scuttlebutt seems to say that Intel made a fundamental error in their choice of materials for the 10nm process and that it is still broken, needing a total re-do from start. Might as well swallow the pill and move to 7nm, IMO.

There's no evidence it's cobalt.

The origin of the cobalt hypothesis seems to be- Oh, intel has swtiched to cobalt for the 2 lower metal layers.- Oh, I wonder if cobal is giving them trouble....- Oh, cobalt must be the cause for the 10 nm delays!- (people start to come up with reason's why it must be cobalt).

IMHO, more likely candidate it's the quadruple patterning.

Thanks. I miss the days where that kind of information would've come to me as an article on Ars.