Hillary’s Secret Letter and the Whole Matter of Endless War and the Almost Complete Corruption of America’s Government (UPDATED!)

Foreword by the Saker: to be honest, I have not been following the latest presidential race in the USA. Simply put, I have long lost any hope to see any change come from any election in the USA. Changing the puppet makes no difference as long as the puppeteer remains the same one. Still, I think that there are at least two main puppeteers in the USA: what I call the “Old Anglo” guard and the Neocons. And while these two agree on a lot, there are some real differences between them. For all my loathing for Obama, I have to admit that he generally has kept the Neocons in check, at least one some crucial matters such as the deal with Iran or the war on Syria. It is because of this awareness of the difference between extremely bad and absolutely unspeakably horrible that I make any difference at all, however minor, between the current presidential candidates. And when I speak of “absolutely unspeakably horrible” I, of course, mean that thoroughly evil and maniacal bitch Hillary Clinton who, frankly, outright frightens me. Of all the people seriously thinking that that Russia will not dare to stand up to the AngloZionist Empire, she is, in my opinion, by far the most dangerous and thus the most likely to test that hypothesis. So while “thoroughly evil and maniacal bitch” might sound harsh, I quite literally mean that she is breathing evil and hubris and that she is a “bitch” in the colloquial sense of the word. God help us all and have mercy on us if she becomes the next President. If that happens I would consider the risks of a nuclear war with Russia as high.

When I saw the following article at our friends at the Greanville Post I knew that I had to repost it here. While hardly a proof of anything in the sense of legal evidentiary rules, this article offers a fascinating insight into the depraved and wicked mind of Hillary Clinton. It also fits perfectly with her infamous “we came, we saw, he died”:

So yes, at this point, I would prefer *anybody* to this “thoroughly evil and maniacal bitch”. If she gets elected my last hope will be for a coup by the JCS.

An almost perfect measure of the decay of democratic values in American politics is found in a letter from Hillary Clinton to Haim Saban, a wealthy American-Israeli and a major contributor to the Democrats. It is a letter whose only purpose is to elicit funds, ingratiating its author to the recipient by condemning the perfectly legitimate right of free people to choose boycotting Israel over its appalling behaviors. The letter is disturbing in some of its views and characterizations, but it has been reviewed and remarked upon by many, as here.

We were not supposed to know this, but there are actually two letters. The first letter was released by its recipient, but the second letter was intended only for its recipient’s eyes. Somehow, it managed to be leaked to The Guardian, although in searching the Internet to discover just what happened it seems Google has done a pretty good job of sweeping over the trail.

It is the second letter, the one we were not supposed to see, which goes beyond being disturbing.

I am not exaggerating when I characterize it as something comparable to words which might have been written by… well, choose the name of any grisly dictator, but Adolph Hitler’s would have to be the one jumping to the minds of most people. This second letter’s words are absolutely chilling. If you think I’m exaggerating, here are Hillary’s words:

“As president, I will give the Jewish state all the necessary military, diplomatic, economic and moral support it needs to truly vanquish Hamas – and if that means killing 200,000 Gazans, then so be it.

“We realist Democrats understand that collateral damage is an unavoidable by-product of the War on Terror, and me being a mother, grandmother and tireless children’s rights advocate does not mean that I will flinch even one iota in allowing Israel to obliterate every last school-cum-rocket launching pad in Gaza. Those who allow their children to be used as human shields for terrorists deserve to see them buried under one-ton bombs.”

Let’s just analyze a few of the more unacceptable and repugnant statements in this letter.

“Israel didn’t teach Hamas a harsh enough lesson…”

In 2014, Israel killed over 500 children plus another 1,700 adults in Gaza, and that came after another invasion, 2008, and a series of operations beginning in 2006, which saw Israel kill more than another 1,500 Palestinians. It should be noted that the Palestinian population is a young one, so a disproportion of children is always at risk in any attack. We had reliable reports that Israeli soldiers grabbed Palestinian children to hold in front of them in a number of instances. We also had first-hand reports of families being targeted.

Over this period, Israel has maintained a brutal blockade of Gaza, which in its first inception included an actual calorie count for the amount of food which could just keep a person alive, an idea we might want to credit to Himmler. International pressure brought an end to that aspect of the blockade, but even today the Palestinians cannot get cement to repair their sanitation and homes. Israel also launched its infamous Gaza flotilla raid in 2010, seizing half a dozen ships attempting to bring aid to Gaza and killing 10 crew members, all of them unarmed.

I remind readers just what Gaza is. It is essentially a huge refugee camp, a place where Palestinians huddled for protection from Israel’s 1948 terror campaign against residents of ancient villages long since bulldozed out of existence. Today, surrounded by fences and guards and towers with automated, radar-operated machine-guns, Gaza resembles a vast outdoor prison, or, if you will, a Bantustan or concentration camp. Even its fishermen are allowed to go only a short distance into the sea before being attacked by Israeli gun boats. Periodically, Israel does dirty work like cut its power or foul its water. Recently, a huge swath of land around its perimeter was sprayed with herbicides, cutting food supplies and insuring future malformation of children, just as we see in Vietnam as a result of America’s use of Agent Orange.

“…our democratic ally…”

Israel is certainly one of the world’s strangest “democracies.” About half the people living under its rule do not want to live under its rule, have no votes, have absolutely no rights, and are treated in the most abusive manner. Even their homes are not their own with Israel periodically seizing them for its own purposes.

Then we have the fact that only Jews are supposed to live in “the Jewish state.” Only Jews are welcomed. Indeed only Jews are accepted. Other kinds of refugees are turned away. There is a government program underway right now to clean out the Knesset, Israel’s legislature, of its few Arab members. These are the representatives of Arabs trapped in what became Israel in 1948 and reluctantly granted citizenship, although in daily practice and in many laws, Arab citizens are not deemed as full citizens, identity papers are stamped and they are subjected to hearing regular demagogic demands that they all be pushed across the Jordan River and out of the country.

If you consider Israel a genuine democracy, then you must also view the American Confederacy or South Africa under the National Party as democracies. They both held elections and had legislatures and the dress-up appearances of democracy. It was just that huge numbers of those countries’ people could not vote and could not own certain property and had no rights.

Israel’s so-called democracy has other serious impairments, including a structure for the role of money in politics that much resembles America’s. It is at best a plutocracy. Millions pour in to favored candidates like Netanyahu from sources like American billionaire Sheldon Adelson.

Israel has another highly undemocratic characteristic, and that is its aversion to democracy in countries or groups anywhere near it. It always has supported happily tyrants like Mubarak in Egypt and has worked assiduously to get what was a democratic organization like Hamas declared and treated as some kind of terrorists.

If Israel is, as Israelis like to say, the Middle East’s only democracy, I think we can be glad there are not more such democracies.

“…our Islamofascist foe…”

Since when are the Palestinians – who, as is often ignored, include both Islamic and Christian people – “our foe”? I don’t recall them threatening or attacking anyone? Women and children and hard-working men on farms and in shops are our foe? People without even the semblance of a military?

Since when are they “Islamofascists”? They are just people driven out of their own ancient homes and farms by groups of well-armed newcomers from Europe and America. And what is an “Islamofascist,” beyond a slur term coined in Israel for people who are resented, hated, and abused merely for the fact of their very existence? We did briefly see in the last assault on Gaza how ugly things get in Israel, something generally kept from our eyes, with video of Israelis in lawn chairs on the heights watching homes being bombed and cheering as though it were the home team scoring a goal at a football match.

“I will give the Jewish state all the necessary military, diplomatic, economic and moral support it needs to truly vanquish Hamas…”

What in God’s name does that mean? America literally pours military, security, and technical assistance into Israel. There is continuous typhoon of it hitting Israel’s shores. And how would more help “truly vanquish Hamas”? What would be the shape of that? A couple of thermonuclear weapons lobbed into Gaza? But Israel already has its own thermonuclear weapons, albeit through lying and deceit and even theft and against the intent of all international law and organization, although with the secret contrivance and acceptance of a couple of generations of politicians like Hillary.

Why should Hamas be vanquished? It was elected to office in a clean election, likely cleaner than most American and Israeli elections. But I forget, Israel hates having democracies anywhere near its borders. It prefers dealing with – when it deigns even to speak to its neighbors – men like Mahmoud Abbas, who last legally held office in 2009 and has unilaterally extended his own term as President ever since, and who is completely ineffectual in his relations with Israel.

We shouldn’t forget that after Hamas’s internationally-supervised election, Israeli troops raced into Gaza and illegally arrested many of its elected officials. It also publicly threatened the leader’s assassination. Funny, but I don’t recall things going the other way from this supposedly terrorist organization. After all, it earned the “official” designation as terrorist from politicians like Hillary Clinton or Newt Gingrich or Dick Armey working to keep those pro-Israeli campaign funds flowing in.

All of the horrors of invasions, bombardments, and blockades came after that simple election. Israel hates Hamas because it does not do exactly as it is ordered to do. Always the excuse is used that Hamas won’t recognize Israel as “the Jewish state,” but that view deliberately hides many legitimate issues. In conflict or disagreement, countries typically do not extend formal recognition. The United States has done this countless times, including for the last half century with Cuba. It did it for years with the Soviet Union.

But Israel’s case is not just a matter of formal recognition. There is a subtle but immensely important difference. It wants recognition as “the Jewish state.” What would happen to those million or so Palestinians who hold Israeli passports and are now at least nominally Israelis? Forced marches across the Jordan River? What happens to the many important Palestinian claims on Israel? What claims do you think a non-Jew can have in “a Jewish state” under purely Jewish courts and laws? What happens to the entire West Bank, which exists under Israeli occupation and is regularly predated by sudden demands for non-Jewish properties? This is no simple issue as Israel repeatedly and tiresomely insists that it is.

You are not a terrorist because you refuse to accept Israel’s terms: you are a people looking out for your own interests, something all people have the right and need to do. Israel always insists that this acceptance come before any other matters can be dealt with, and it then turns to the press and says, “See, I told you, they are terrorists.” Simply absurd, expecting people to just lie down and let you do whatever you want to them!

“…and if that means killing 200,000 Gazans, then so be it…”

Only a person so exceedingly biased towards Israel as to be effectively blind would fail to recognize the tone of those words. They could easily have been written by Adolph Hitler or one his charming goons such as Heinrich Himmler or Joseph Goebbels.

In the churches and schools where I was brought up, such speech could never be countenanced, yet here it is, written by a woman who was Secretary of State now wants to be President. She obviously knows enough to keep this morally-filthy language secret, hence her method of the second letter. So, even in her, maybe there is some little remaining sense of shame? But I doubt it because she is writing these ghastly words for what purpose? To ask for a large amount of money.

Now, if you wrote words like that in Israel or in a number of countries, only changing the name of who are to be killed in mass, you would most certainly go to prison, besides being labelled a terrorist for life. Apparently, when Hillary learned that this letter leaked, she made the excuse that there had been a typo, that it should have read “20,000.” Her moral and ethical organs are so charred and twisted that she actually thinks 20,000 people killed sounds okay, just fine, maybe ten times as good as killing 200,000?

But of course, Hillary is grotesquely lying even in this excuse, as she has lied innumerable times over her adult life, an ongoing stage play we have all enjoyed in the news: watching her defend her predatory husband for the sake of future political success, watching her politically-motivated statement of being shot at in Bosnia in 1996, a claim almost instantly proved fraudulent by the press, watching her squirm and lie about what really happened during the murderous events at Benghazi, and watching her lie as she is investigated about using her private server for top secret material as Secretary of State.

“Those who allow their children to be used as human shields for terrorists deserve to see them buried under one-ton bombs”

This statement is so sick and twisted, it is frightening. It begs the whole genuine issue of whether any Palestinian ever did this, while we know from witnesses that Israeli soldiers did. Just what is it here that we are talking about where children are said to have been used as shields? A full-fledged invasion by heavily-armed troops, supported with tanks and artillery and fighter planes into a densely-crowded civilian area, often aptly described as an open-air prison for a million and a half souls. How could children avoid becoming targets? In the poor places of the Middle East with their high birth rates, children are a greater portion of the population than in advanced countries. Only a genuine monster would launch such an invasion, and only an equal monster would defend it.

To my mind, this damnable behavior of Israel’s could be compared to, say, the Detroit Police Department, supported by the Michigan National Guard, invading the ghettos of Detroit to capture a few criminals and killing literally thousands of innocent people in the process and leaving the place a pile of rubble. The whole world would be appalled. But even that comparison is inadequate. Israel was not chasing criminals. What Israel was really hoping to do was murder the leaders of Hamas, a legitimate political party. But even if Hamas were not a legitimate party, Israel’s act is comparable to Detroit’s police and National Guard killing thousands to try getting a few members of the Black Panther Party in the 1970s.

We’ve surmised that things like this letter go on in private because we see our politicians countenancing mass murder and we see the entire Middle East in flames owing to the same cause. But having the paper in hand is another matter. For instance, we know Newt Gingrich received the best part of $20 million for his last nomination campaign from billionaire Sheldon Adelson and proceeded to make campaign speeches about there being “no such thing as a Palestinian.”

We know former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, a man whose career was well financed by special interests, actually said in the late part of his career that Israel should just sweep all the Palestinians out of the country.

We know that former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright said in response to a question about 500,000 deaths of children in Iraq, “We think the price is worth it,” and does anyone wonder why Albright not only strongly supports Hillary but recently spoke of “a special place in hell for women” who didn’t support Hillary?

It tells us a great deal of the lengths to which an American politician will go to secure large sources of funds. It tells us too something about her relationship with the recipient that Hillary believed she could freely address him in such an appalling fashion. Finally, it confirms everyone’s worst fears about the Israel Lobby and the extremes to which its supporters are prepared to go.

We all know there is a huge amount of behind-the-scenes, dirty dealing in American politics, but not just in politics, in foreign affairs. There is no other explanation for the murky, bloody swamp into which America’s government has towed the country. America has been continuously at war for a quarter century. It has killed great numbers of people and destroyed whole societies. And none of those people threatened the United States, not even the Taleban who were arbitrarily and without proof held responsible for the events of 9/11.

Virtually all of it relates directly or indirectly to Israel and making the Middle East comfortable for a state which itself never hesitates to threaten, attack, kill, imprison, torture to gain its objectives, its objectives being to enlarge itself far beyond its original accepted boundaries, to reduce the native Palestinian population of millions to such miserable discomfort that they flee their homes, and to assure itself of hegemony throughout the region, seeing independent-minded leaders like Assad or Gadhafi literally murdered and their countries torn apart.

It is a program which parallels closely historical examples which none of us has been taught to admire or approve, historical examples which have caused great wars and massive human misery. We have established some of our greatest international institutions precisely out of the wreckage of history with the aim of not letting it happen again, but today every one of these institutions is compromised by American pressure on Israel’s behalf, the work of corrupt politicians like Hillary Clinton.

So it is happening again, although on a smaller scale – though I wouldn’t want the job of explaining to the people of Syria, Iraq, Libya, Egypt, and a number of other places that their desolation and misery are on a smaller scale.

The present Secretary General doesn’t even peep at America’s many appalling acts. Past Secretaries General who managed to get elected despite their opposition to American imperialism – an example was Boutros Boutros-Ghali – were removed in behind-the-scenes plots. Madeleine Albright for example won her State Department spurs arranging just that kind of thing. Combinations of threats and bribes do the job nicely, and, of course, the UN hasn’t forgotten the long period of time the United States simply refused to pay its treaty-required dues, a quarter of the institution’s budget.

But ordinary Americans and others rarely get even a peek at any of the details going into the shaping of their world. Here is one small instance where they do, and it is a telling one.

Bill Clinton and Haim Saban (Ynet)
Editor’s Note. Hillary is not the only one friendly with Saban.

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Didn’t read your analysis, but the “letter” is clearly fake. Reminds me of alleged statements by Hitler that were in our history textbooks in Germany, pulled from Gespräche mit Hitler by Hermann Rauschning, or other fake protocols that were sold as authentic documents after the war. But then, you also believe his first name may be spelt Adolph.

I agree, Lumi, but who do you think faked it? I’d bet on someone in the Saban apparatus. Shortly it will be blamed on ‘antisemites’ and the BDS movement, increasing the pressure to ban and criminalise that movement. I would be quite certain, however, that these are Clinton’s true opinions.

Saker, when I first read this article, I found it not credible because it did not indicate a proper source.
The second paragraph offers the lame excuse that “Google has done a pretty good job of sweeping over the trail”. This does not pass muster. There are other search engines besides Google. E.g., Bing, which has no record of this being published at the Guardian.

I came back to post a comment about this, and now I find indication that the letter is possibly a hoax.

To preserve the credibility of your own site, this probably needs an update of the update.

Being a person with an open mind who believes stories that are shared at for example Websites such as Dissident Voice an The Saker’s vineyard, I first believed the story to be true, but started to have doubts when I read that Hillary was saying things between brackets (you can only write between brackets and not speak between brackets).

Anyway, I believe these so called satirical Websites should be ashamed of themselves and are only made to make excellent Websites , such as the Saker’s (and dissident voice) less credible. It is also not good satire, like satirists such as Voltaire an Swift used to write. The big difference between those Websites and Swift/Voltaire is that the later satirized the ruling class, while these satirical Websites satirize the wretched and the dead. That is worth a thought or two and I agree with the previous speaker that it would be a good idea if the Saker could update his update, perhaps with some of the thoughts which are shared here in the comment section.

These aren’t ‘satire’ sites. I’d best they are infested with Zionazis and Clintonites. This is an obvious set-up to smear others with the discredit, and I’d bet that in the end the Zionazi hate-machine will be turned on the BDS movement, which these ruthlessly aggressive and belligerent thugs are DETERMINED to destroy.

“As president, I will give the Jewish state all the necessary military, diplomatic, economic and moral support it needs to truly vanquish Hamas – and if that means killing 200,000 Gazans, then so be it.”

You focus on Hilary Clinton as being totally evil for writing this. The other side of the coin is that Haim Saban and Israel would actually do this. Clinton writes in the expecatation that this proposal and its consequence would not be unacceptable to Israel and its supporters.

I’ve read that those supposed quotes from hillary’s second letter are fake. The main source from them is a satire website. Is this true? Can somebody confirm…? I’m all for the Hillary hate, and I do think she is the epitome of evil. But did she really say the quote about killing 200,000 gazans? It seems like it may be a fake quote.

The Protocols of Zion were declared to be a ‘forgery’. A ‘forgery’ is a fraudulent ‘copy’ of an original.

But in the end it matters not whether it is real – it’s message is the point – a message that rings true in every way, just a true today as it was at the turn of the 20th century, and even more so. ‘1094’ is also a fictional work, but the message it imparts about the end result of government control over our lives rings true even more so today, so we consider such a work, ‘prophetic’ for the truths it communicates to the reader.

That the Protocols are forgeries or not is, then, entirely irrelevant.

I would encourage all the read an incredibly valuable history of Jewish Talmudism throughout as presented in the book, The Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed, a popular investigative reporter during the war years in the mid-twentieth century, who sacrificed his prolific career to tell the truth. After reading that book, you will surely understand the real message of the Protocols and its implications for the world.

That is not what a forgery is. If I am carrying a forged German visa, it is almost certainly not a fraudulent ‘copy’ of my real German visa. Rather, it is a document made to look as if the German government did something they did not, in this case issue me a visa.
A forged painting, for instance, can be a faked duplicate of a real existing painting, but it can also be a painting in the style of a famous painter, with said painter’s signature and so forth, purporting to be a new undiscovered painting by that artist. The Protocols is something in this latter sense–but doubly so, in that not only is it a fiction attributing to a group something they never said, it is in fact a fiction which fakes the existence of a group supposedly doing the writing which never, in fact, existed.

There is a human tendency that, once you’ve decided to oppose someone (eg the government of Israel, well worthy of opposition) you become willing to believe any damn bullshit about them or anyone associated with them, as long as it makes them easier to hate in some way. It is one of the least attractive, most despicable human traits. Resist it.

Anyone interested in the Protocols should have a look at the work done by Peter Myers. His work is extraordinary in its professionalism, objectivity and persuasiveness. As for the Protocols themselves, they are a remarkable document. My personal fascination with them lies in the financial plan put forth. A document of profound depth to those familiar with the finance industry both from the standpoint of the use of financial strategies for the sake of control as well as how those same strategies can be thwarted. Very relevant for modern Russia.

Henry Ford said of the Protocols that he had no idea about their authenticity, but they described precisely the behaviour that he had personally witnessed and experienced. I suspect they were ‘faked’ to discredit the underlying truth of Jewish economic and particularly financial behaviour, and the ends that behaviour sought to achieve. Behaviour and ends that we see in even greater clarity today.

It’s because of the letters like these Hillary Clinton has been appointed to be a President of the US. It’s almost like she thinks that everyone who is not Jewish and not serving to the Jewish interests is a terrorist. That makes 99% of people living on this planet.

On February 28, 2016 a body of Sergei Mitrofanov was found near Perm in a small town in Russia that never in the history of its existence had a car crash, or a murder. Sergei Mitrofanov was the Deputy Speaker of the Legislative Assembly of the Permski Krai.

What makes this a political murder is the fact that the Israeli media immediately came out with several articles linking the death of the Legislative Assembly deputy to the fact that he was against construction in Perm of “Chabad Lubavitch” synagogue and religious center, and against the free provision of municipal land for this construction.

The Palestinians of the West Bank fled their homes during the 6 day war in 1967 under the impression that they would soon return, and as such, locked their doors and went to Jordan. All they took with them was their “keys”. The “key” has now taken on a symbolic meaning as it is passed down through the family as a reminder that their homes have long been taken and occupied by the Jewish immigrants into the middle east.

It was the Palestinians of Palestine that fled their homes or were expelled to the West Bank in 1948. These are the people that make up the populations of Gaza and the refugee camps in the West Bank. Denied the right of return.

While I fully agree with the sentiments expressed here, I’ve been unable to find a solid provenance for this second email.
It could be a satirical hoax. For example, I can’t find the Guardian article. Any ideas?

Wow,one of the best articles I have ever read on Hitlerry Clinton and Israhell. Thank you very much.

Its a tragedy of my live, that all that life has been spend, having to chose the “lessor of two evils” to vote for in the US. Not ever having a candidate that I could fully support for their ideas and plans. Only voting for them because their opponent was “so much worse”. That is I believe, true of almost every country in the World today. And its why when you see a man like Putin,people are so in awe of him,and support him. To see a leader “actually” working for his country, is so rare its like finding a real unicorn in today’s world.

Today’s choice of evils in the US couldn’t be clearer. Its clearer than at anytime I can remember. On the one side are Trump and Sanders (the lessor evils).And on the other Clinton and Cruz,(the spawn of Satan type evil). If it comes down to either set facing each other (and I don’t care which set it is). I’ll be voting,once again,for the lessor evil.

@”Its a tragedy of my live, that all that life has been spend, having to chose the “lessor of two evils” to vote for in the US. Not ever having a candidate that I could fully support for their ideas and plans. Only voting for them because their opponent was “so much worse”.

Yes, that is the AMerican experience of “democracy” in this country. Our two-party system stinks.
So many people—on the left and right and inbetween—can’t find a candidate to vote for, a candidate who represents their interests and their beliefs. Even if I don’t hold teh same beliefs, I share the frustration.

I am dead set against Hillary. I’ll vote for Trump instead.
Or, I’ll vote for Jill Stein, truly a superior candidate who clearly understands the dementia of the Ameicain political system and the fatal waekness of someone like Sanders trlying to work “within” the Democratic party. You cannot work “within” this party now. Iti has been hollowed out by the Clintons and Obama. The election of Hillary would be the coup de grace. In that case no one would ever dare criticize her, being the first woman president. Just as Obama’s ielection blunted all criticism of him becuase he was the first African Ameircan pres. I really t hink the “third way” people (mainy, the Clintons) had this all figured out.

I dont want to spend my WHOLE life pretending to be happy to grasp the shitty end of a stick because the other end is even more shitty. I’d rather vote for a loser who is the real deal as a potential leader of courage and vision than for a total cynic. Trump certainly is cynical,—I am not sure what to make of the “fascism” charges. Certainly lif he really tries to change the war modus operandi he would probably get wiped out. But the U.S. military now seems to be an increasingly unknown quantity. Are there true patriots left anywhere in the upper reaches of the US hierarchy?
Katherine

Again I ask why do you participate? A quick comment on the Green Party and Ms. Stein. Their lack of ability to organize into a true movement says it all. The Green’s are nothing more than a group of mostly white, intellectuals who spend more time patting their own backs than broadcasting their message, organizing and attacking the regime. They will never have an impact.

I once voted for an amazing African American woman for president, who ran as a Green Party candidate; Cynthia McKinney. Charles, you may want to consider that any party who really challenges the empire, or any facet thereof, will be on the receiving end of full blown COINTERPRO operations. Just ignore the kerfuffles, and keep your eye on the ball. That being the issues and programs proposed. So much to love, to work for!
We Greens will be there when the duopoly drowns in its own shit. Composting, and regenerating a new society.

Wow. Jill Stein.
First I heard of her.
I checked out her campaign site.
As much as I enjoy watching the elites squirm (I voted for Trump in the primary), I’ll vote for Stein in the general.
Of course it is not realpolitik, but it counts in God’s reckoning. I cannot condone torture, as does Mr. Trump.
Thank you.

C’mon Bob, then why do you continue to participate in an obviouly fraudulent system? Do you not believe that by doing so you are complicit in the fraud, that you are complicit in what results when the criminals who are chosen by the most evil among us come into office. Do you believe they serve your interests in any way. Do you think hope and change candidates could realistically accomplish what they preach. How did hope and change barry work out for you. If one did their due diligence one would have known in advance what was coming. I know I did.
The fool did not fool me. Let me clue you in, voting for the lesser of two evils is as worse as voting in the first place. Elections do not a democracy make, Bob. Especially when they are rigged, stolen (remember W?), and criminal in nature and intent.
I can honestly state I have not voted or participated in an election for any federal office position since George McGovern ran for president. When anyone awake saw a public hugely anti-war have the candidate that represented those views soundly trounced by billionaires and the MIC’s intervention.
It’s simple those who participate in a criminal system are criminal as well. Those who believe elections equate with democratic governance are blind. I apologize for being very harsh but compromizing on principles is a sinful act to me.

The reason to participate in voting, it seems to me, is the same reason that Putin participates in the attempt to restore international law processes to their rightful position, knowing very well the forces arrayed against such an attempt.

We in the United States who will continue to vote for Jill Stein even while seeing as far as we are able to see the forces arrayed against that legitimate expression of conscience do so each out of our own personal integrity, as does Putin out of his as a statesman.

I am personally proud to be a member of that community whether we prevail or not.

Juliana, in reply to your comment I have to say I disagree with you. President Putin implacably stresses and tries to underpin the importance of international law in our world because he knows very well the world has no other choice.
Without international law to regulate and govern relations between sovereign states the entire world would plunge into anarchy and it would turn into a dog eat dog world which is what the western powers desprrately want as they figure (falsely) that they have the biggest stick with wich to club other nations with.
People like you on the other hand who are relatively enlightened to what is going on and knowing what you know and still keep participating in a fraudulent system are clearly still feeding that system and upholding the illusion which keeps the psychopaths in power.

Charles Fasola you took the words right out of my mouth well said. It never ceases to amaze me how for some reason the sheeple (even those supposedly awake to the machinations of the AZ empire) cannot bring themselves to admitt the patently obvious and keep falling for variations of the same trick over and over again, like a dying man clutching at straws.
If these bozos running for lresident are where they are, they are part of the system, and the system is out to screw and subjugate the common man.
When will that proverbial flashbulb ho off in the collective concsciousness of humanity and people finally realise their governments are their enemies ?
Everywhere you look now in the west its chaos and unrest, with harsh “Austerity” measures pushing ever more people into poverty and a massive influx of refugees who have been displaced from their own countries because of the diabolical and satanic policies of our “elected representatives” giving a breath of fresh air to all the white supremacist and neo nazi morons and setting people at each others throats. And then you have the western governments ever tightening the security state and taking ever more freedoms away from their people all in the name of “national security”.
They have no money to spend at home on their own people but plenty of money to spend on their cut throat jihadi proxies to destabilize ever more countries abroad and their brain dead citizens still refuse to see who their real enemies are. This is why I keep saying there is no hope for us as a race.

If you think your democracy is rigged (it clearly is) and that your government is taking way too many decisions against the will of most citizens, you have two tasks left:

1. Vote but call out the fraud: make with a big red cross across the ballot.
2. Stop paying taxes and stop working for appalling government activities; work against them instead.

If you still set some hope in a candidate, elect him/her regardless of public opinion. The “regardless of public opinion” part should be observed all times, because without disregarding polls, democracy is hollow by definition.

“And its why when you see a man like Putin,people are so in awe of him,and support him. To see a leader “actually” working for his country, is so rare its like finding a real unicorn in today’s world.”

“Its a tragedy of my live, that all that life has been spend, having to chose the “lessor of two evils” to vote for in the US. Not ever having a candidate that I could fully support for their ideas and plans. Only voting for them because their opponent was “so much worse”.”

Now that makes me wonder what you did to support the nomination of Ron Paul when he ran? Or didn’t you?

So Clinton can advocate for the murder of 200,000+ children and not be arrested for it; but if I advocate for her no longer being allowed to draw breath, I’ll get arrested toot-sweet by the SS. Plus, she’s already has very bloody hands and should be arrested for those crimes, too. The FBI has more than enough evidence to arrest her for her email security transgressions but hasn’t, and of course her felonious activity isn’t broadcast in the same manner as Trump’s racism. And the reason Republicans aren’t attacking her for her crimes is they want to commit them too.

Regardless of the authenticity of the 200K letter, knowing what we do know about her personality, she was likely cheerleading the Genocidal Sanctions on Iraq that killed over a million, including the infamous 500K child deaths Albright said was “worth it.” I bet the two High Fived offstage. Her stance on “Trade Deals” and jobs has always favored further immiseration of US workers while expanding corporate profits–murderous policy choices–and oh so much more. When I see people cheering for Clinton, I get sick and wonder if they are educated at all, or if they have morals and ethics; how do they excuse themselves from supporting a known psychopathic killer and serial prevaricator! I’d ask her what difference is there between Snyder’s choice to poison Flint and her husband’s choice to poison millions of Iraqis.

Outlaw Historian . . . I agree the reason Republicans aren’t attacking her for her crimes — that anyone else would have long ago been indicted for — is because they want to commit them too. IMO, it’s more clear to say because they ARE committing them. There seems to be an agreement that incoming Administrations do not really prosecute prior criminals, even war criminals, so they themselves aren’t similarly prosecuted for any of their crimes when the other party re-takes power.

But I actually believe Clinton is the pure personification of evil incarnate.

Outlaw, you know how she has treated the secret service officers…what do you know, maybe they have a pool on her themselves?
And, the FBI knows, their case against her can’t be air-tight, it has to be hermetically sealed. They know what a witch she is too. But here’s another way of looking at it…Maybe they want to add sweetness to the take down with careful timing…like AFTER she becomes President-elect, but before she’s sworn in. Would the chaos that’d cause be worth it to see the look on her jowly mug when they slap the cuffs on? As Yoda says, “for it you must wait!”

Is there any evidence showing that the letter is genuine and not an elaborate hoax to catch the unwary? I can quite believe it of the monster Clinton, but it would help if there were a reliable source for the letter itself.

It seems like next November we are asked to choose between the clown and the devil.
With the clown, we don’t know what to expect; it’s just how clowns are.
With the devil, we can expect Hell like Hellary !

I am reminded of a disinformation tactic. Plant factual information and allow it to be found by persons whom you wish to discredit. The information should appear genuine and actually is factually true but the source must be readily shown to be fraudulent. May not be the case here, but it wouldn’t be the first time.

Whether the email is real or not is a red herring. Everyone who’s done the slightest bit of research on the Clintons knows they (both of them) are clearly capable of not only saying things like this but _doing_ things like this. “Partners in Power” is the authoritative tome on this frightening political couple; it’s from 1996, therefore twenty years old! It was a New York Times bestseller, but curiously was not reviewed therein, AFAIK. The chapter on Mena alone should be enough to convince anyone that these people have no business holding public office, and are morally and spiritually completely bankrupt. Huffington Post crusaders can’t be bothered to pick up a book from two decades ago that has hundreds of examples of, at best, sleazy and dishonorable behavior that should have sunk the Clinton Titanic for any sane person. One can tell the essential validity of an argument when the other side doesn’t even try to contest an assertion or defend itself. Instead, they clam up and hope that silence will make the real issues fade away. Where to start? From Little Rock to Whitewater to a bunch of suspicious deaths and mountains of booze and coke and sleaze, to defenses of revolting misogynist behavior, to Mena and the White House, this is late imperial power-junkie syndrome, Emperor Caracalla-level stuff. It’s been documented for years and the contortions that the “Left” goes through to promote this First Woman President are depressing and insane.

Yeah! But you see we are dealing with a ‘reality’ i.e a white elderly women,well dressed ,speaking good American english,apparently well off,well educated,articulate, and supported by her party and smart looking peeps in three piece suits and the chicks in pravada shoes.,and heh !,hold on a minute she was the former Sec.St of AMERICA!and in all TVs!

Get out of here pls,she aint this sweet lady wouldn’t hurt a fly not by what i see with mine own eyes in tvs and Washington post!get out of here and just take a good look at her husband and their daughter,come on even her son in law is apparently a Jewish banker! Ill be praying and hoping this lady in the tv will win and become our president to put away all them bad musleemtterrorist!

Peeps should just shut up and let ordinary folks just choose from the way ,they really look like,talk,and behave in front of our own eyes!for heaven sake why must peeps produce utter nonsense,do they not read the Bible?..bear no false witness..may the lord forgive you!

I agree that it’s good to be familiar with the Bible. I also recommend another book which has more ref’s than I could name. The author, Roger Morris, is no flaming radical. He’s just an honest reporter and a great writer who probably had no clue he was diving into the deep end of a dark pool. There is no false witness to give; the stuff is a matter of public record now (a lot of it, anyway). Some people spoke off the record, why? Fear. It’s as simple as that. Simple yet complex. Somehow the Democratic Party doesn’t do simple or complex very well, nor do they realize how many of their “base” cannot stand this woman just on an instinctual level. And of course, no one can shut up about this topic — I would love for Hillary to just go away and leave the country alone but she is in fact shoved in our faces 24/7. Cheers.

No kidding? Wow. Hard to imagine ten years ago when suckers (I was one of them) took the Onion seriously, i.e., thought they had wit. A couple of cheap shots at disabled kids and I decided, f*ck this, this is frat boy humor, and yes, they’re from Madison. Cool town, but really? Guys like Saban don’t mess around with their sacred $$$, and I would imagine these days it’s just another hasbara screen, made to order. One wonders how much was paid, because the internet being what it is these days, the Onion is not the sacred coolitude organ it considers itself to be. No way around that. Thanks for posting and any more details would be welcome, I have friends who used to write for the damned thing.

When the US collapses, Israel will collapse. The CIA doesn’t even think that Israel will last 15 years more, only the CIA does not seem to want to analyze for how much longer the US itself will exist.

The Palestinians, with their high birth rate, can survive anything. They survived a few hundred years of the crusades, so they can survive a hundred year’s of the Zionists. Its been 68 years so far. The most common name given to new born’s in Israel at present is Mohammed.

Remember, China, when weak, gave Hong Kong to the British on a 99 year lease, when asked why 99 years, they said because in 99 years time they’ll be able to take out the British. And that is the case, right now China can annihilate Britain.

You’re right — actually, the “select few” seem really lousy at it. The Chinese are quite the opposite. TCM, the martial arts, philosophy, Taoism, on and on, ancient systems of observation of nature and the physical world. Asian people often play Go, which depends on long-term thinking, it seems to me. Like chess, only weirder. If you don’t have strategy into the future you literally can’t win the game. And here in America, we are playing Monopoly, or maybe Grand Theft Auto.

First of all, Thank you, Saker, for providing an alternative source of news to bbc, cnn and the rest.

Hillary Clintons first letter to Saban was abject and servile enough, like a submissive to a master in a bdsm relationship. She was intelligent enough to have a bit of a mind of her own earlier. Becoming senator of newyork probably requires kowtowing to the israeli lobby, given newyorks demographics. Cognitive dissonance may done the rest. Once you have sold out, its probably just easier to change your mind and your principles. The pity is that once you have lost your integrity, it is not easy to get it back.

However the second letter may be fake. it does not quite ring true , in english-linguistic terms.. it is important that those who believe in pursuing the truth, not be stampeded by emotions, and consider the veracity of the evidence carefully.

I had seen this document a few days ago. As soon as I saw the word ‘islamofascist’ I knew that the thing was a fiction.

This term, a made up word, would not, in my opinion be used by anyone seriously involved in foreign affairs and especially not in private correspondence. The term is a thought reducing code word, not an objective description. I simply can not imagine a lawyer, writing a serious note, using such a word.

The woman may be evil, but commentators who compromise their objectivity but choosing to ignore red flags in the evidence they present serve only their supposed enemies or targets.

But I have no problem agreeing the pure evil of the woman. It’s knowing it that makes accepting such satire as fact so easy. I have no trouble at all in believing that she is quite capable of expressing and meaning precisely the words attributed to her in that piece.

I am not Gordon Duff’s greatest fan, but at least he is occasionally honest and openly admits, that about 30% of the stuff written on Veterans Today – is made up (not true) and to read between the lines.

However his observation of the current US political system is well worth reading, and most of it is quite obviously true (though he goes a bit easy on the evil witch).

“Let’s also face a truth long forgotten, the GOP is entirely run by Sheldon Adelson, a Macao gambling boss with a history we can’t begin to discuss and still hope to get into a car without the help of the bomb squad. Aiding them are the evil twins, the Koch brothers, indescribable monsters. They run the Republican Party and only escape being called “organized crime” because they are bigger and more powerful than organized crime and far more dangerous.

The mob shakes down candy stores, these creatures and the politicians they own, 350 members of congress and 22 state governors, whose strings they share with the drug cartels, oil companies and Wall Street, are the real terrorists, they are ISIS, they are al Qaeda, they are war incarnate.

While pointing the finger at Hillary or George Soros, easy targets I admit, they are the planners of Libya, Benghazi, the backers of Boko Harum, of Al Qaeda and ISIS. When you want to grow up and ask hard questions, ask yourself why the bloated neocon princess, wife of the Kagan brothers, was anointed by Hillary Clinton to destroy Ukraine.

The rats are picking Ukraine clean while their fascist politics, with the help of a carefully orchestrated refugee crisis, is taking down Europe. Take the 6 minutes and 27 seconds and sit through the South Front video. Begin to think about the state of the world when while we are bankrupting Russia and pushing China into war, our “allies” are this pack of clowns”

Saker. I am (as you) pessimistic about the outcome of the presidential race in the US, whatever it could be. The system behind those guys is simply too strong with deep ramifications that no one knows for sure. Hilary as we know is tottally corrupted, deep in the sh..could be a really bad choice but Donald Trump, if he proves to be a really independeant candidate, should the “system” allowe him to win? I honestly doubt it. The US has shown time and again that the only language it understands is raw power not diplomacy.

The fact that the Saker community was taken in by this blatant hoax confirms yet again that when you allow rabidly left-wing (and racist) ideologues to take over your community, they stop giving a damn about facts and everything becomes about serving the Left-wing ideology. Its so sad to watch the Saker community devolve in this way.

Dunno, it is the nature of the beast in these matters that few or none have first hand experience. Even the facts don’t always hold up at later analysis. In this world we are often left with convincing or unconvincing.

It was an obvious fake, and the obvious next step was for ‘commenters’ like you to appear and begin vilifying the Saker crowd for being sucked in, because of the evil ‘Leftwing ideology’ (boo, hiss!). No doubt elsewhere anyone also sucked in will be reviled as ‘antisemites’, ‘friends of terrorists’ etc. It’s all so transparent.

The Guardian is a gatekeeping shill of a rag — this means that every so often it will publish a story that is actually true. This is to reassure the brainf**ked that they are not, in fact, being brainf**ked. Even though they are being…well…you know what I mean.

However, the benefit of the Guardian posting a true story once in a while, means we can confront the brainmushed with said article. However, normally I would discourage even mentioning that paper’s name.

The USA will only start to become a peaceful/ethical/moral state after Israel sells it. But both these countries births were from war/theft/death&destruction so require a fundamental mind shift to a new way….as does humanity in general.

The letter linked at http://www.themideastbeast.com is not a hoax, it’s satire. The author’s name is “Boaz Bulbulovits”. Ri-i-ght. In the “Trending Right Now” column, we some some amusing titles, e.g., “Syrian Kurdish Women Fighters Release Exotic Lesbian Orgy Video on Pornhub”, “With Death of 80-Year-Old Marty Greenberg, Bernie Sanders Becomes Eldest Elder of Zion”.

Lest you still be in doubt, read this on THE MIDEAST BEAST’s About page: “The Mideast Beast (TMB) is an openly known satire and (dark) comedy news site that produces spoof articles about or connected to the entire Middle East for comedic and entertainment purposes. … “

So, who is behind the ‘Mideast Beast’? If, as I strongly suspect, they are the sort of Zionazis who would find the call for 200,000 Gazan deaths ‘satirical’, then they are still disinformationists and smearers, because they know that this unfunny ‘satire’ will circulate throughout the Interweb until it becomes accepted as truth, then as a smear, then as a device to slander and vilify.

Thesaker opens this article with an appeal to the much maligned and discredited (yet always wheeled-out) “lesser of two evils” argument. Firstly, Obama carried out neocon policies all over SouthEast Asia and beyond; secondly, the Iran deal is just another variant of the tactics outlined in the “Which Path to Persia” document.

Thesaker is an astute observer of the world and, just as important, provides us with a superb vocabulary to express this viewpoint, e.g. “the Anglo Zionist Empire”. Such words open up entire vistas of understanding. However, dishing out “hopium” is one of his weaknesses (I think :P).

Well, we all have to make judgments when writing, especially when writing on explosive topics which almost never are covered by the mainline press.

I do not subscribe to your notion of a possible satirical origin.

First, this would be satire only for pretty sick minds.

Second, anyone who has an ear for such things knows that the “tone” is absolutely right for Hillary.

Third, Hillary, as we know from other events, including the horrors of Libya (“We came, we saw, he died”) is a remarkably bloodthirsty woman. She was the “pointman’ for that entire set of bloodthirsty events. She was also an advocate of the war on Serbia. She voted for the war crime of invading Iraq. She also is said to have been the real force behind the massacre at Waco, pushing strongly for the standoff to be pushed off the front pages.

I fear that you may be correct. Something about the text of the purported “satirical” letter doesn’t seem quite right to me. Aside from an absence of humor, the 200.000 number bothers me. Why that number?

Suppose we consider a hypothetical scenario. Suppose Israel has planned large scale punitive operations against Gaza for which they predict a high death toll, say 200.000. Suppose the Israelis make a deal with the Clinton campaign to supply the assistance of Saban and other assets for her election to the Presidency. In exchange for which, president Clinton will agree to look the other way as well as deflect criticism, sanctions or other reactions, domestic or international, to those operations when they commence. Obviously, information about such an agreement would be highly damaging to both parties. So what would one do to protect oneself?

Well, again hypothetically, one strategy would be to employ a disinformation campaign, a “sting” if you will. Draft a mock letter which actually reflects reality and post it on a website claiming to be dedicated to satire and humor. At the same time, seed the mock letter separately on-line together with the information that it was “leaked” to the Guardian. Then one sits back and see who takes the bait. The “fish” would be primarily critics of US and Israeli policy such as Iran, possibly Russia and certainly anyone connected to the BDS movement.

Critics taking the bait would be identified and run the risk of being discredited when the source is identified as “satire”. Intelligence on information pathways used by critics could be gleaned. Perhaps most importantly, a background noise level of disinformation would be created on-line making it difficult to determine fact from fiction going forward.

Lets face it Team Chaos will make sure she will be the next prez!Nobody else has done more for the Team than her look at Libya,Syria,Daesh so she is pure gold for them.The chineze have a saying ,”there’s 365 ways to cook a chicken”.The plot is hatched and the broth is cooking!……Lady clingy is indicated for the same thing as former Team player betrayas fined or pardoned ,there’s a huge sympathies for a women charged and blackened ‘unfairly’..she is hailed as a mother,wife,woman,grandma and a though decision maker by presstitute .Don is trampled as a a chick chasing diminute prick with highly paid former sleeping partners,and as a future water boarder to be!
Or else they fix vote..whichever way she wins….well there’s a saying ,”win a battle lose a war”
By election time R7 would have become R+world! And TEAM CHAOS face chaos:-)

Looking at a lot of alternative, anti-imperialist websites I find an astounding number of them keep peddling the notion that Donald Trump is the ultimate evil against whom “anyone but him” were an apt formula to go with on election day. You are the one most coherent proponent of the exact opposite thesis, which governs in my mind:

If “anyone-but-this or that” at all, than “anyone but Clinton”!

Actually, I find the flaw in all those well-meaning anti-imperialists’ reasoning leading them to that misapprehension able to prove disastrous, nay calamitous for the world, to be related to that persistent idea of a “military-industrial” complex being the ultimate evil and a “class conflict” driving it all.

The diabolic dimension of the cryptocracy ruling firmly over the West, is all but universalle misunderstood, and indeed belittled by these genuine, post- or pseudo-Marexist anylses. It is, however, well present in your perception, dear Saker.
Thanks and keep on!

I am crossing my fingers that Clinton gets indicted over the email scandal. I think the letter is a hoax, but Chuckman’s essay is worth reading in any case. He does a great job discussing Western hypocrisy about Palestine.

This smells like a Zionazi trap to me. I agree that Clinton is Evil incarnate and totally owned by the Zionazi Fifth Column, and would think exactly like this, but I cannot see how she would put such, as you observe, Hitlerite hatred and murderousness, in writing. I suspect that this will circulate then be ‘revealed’ to be fake, and those sucked in spewed upon as ‘antisemites’. If the Zionazis can link any BDS groups to disseminating it, they can use it to increase the pressure to ban, even criminalise BDS, and relegate the US First Amendment to the rubbish-bin of history. I think a similar scam lies behind the ‘The Protocols of the Elders of Zion’ ‘forgery’.

The most horrific thing I have watched in my life (and I’m not young and I’ve witnessed on video violent acts) was the murder of Gaddafi. I prayed the “Our Father” and begged God many nights after, to have Gaddafi’s soul in peace. I could not sleep well for weeks. Such was the impact on my very soul. It was THAT! horrific for me. I kept remembering when I did not want to remember! and I cried and cried for a man I never knew much about and never met. In fact, there is NO money you can pay me to witness that again.
Just that once, I promise you, will last me for the rest of my life, may that be short or long.

When afterwards, I watched Hell-iry laughing at the atrocity I shuddered. If she would had been my mother ( God forbid! my mother was such a gentle woman) or a child of mine, I can too promise any of you I’d never would had spoken to her again.
At my old age, I am still completely stunned a human being could laugh at such an un-Godly act. Perhaps, I’m stupid and naive but I had no idea such depravity existed.

God help all the innocents wherever they are and protect them from Devil incarnates such as the murderers of Gaddaffi, Hell-iry, Zionists and Isra-Hell.

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