Got my DK alt through all the LFRs. HoF part 2 was hairy at first - two wipes and then almost everyone left, only two tanks, one healer and a few dps left. I started to think my DK could not tank. Luckily it was not too ungoldly an hour, so we were quickly replenished and then we one shot every other boss.

ToES was pretty lively too (although I find that even on my tankadin main - the Tsulong and Lei Shi magic damage swops in LFR can be tense). I absolutely love DK tanking - it feels so much more engaging than paladin tanking - but it also seems much more frightening to raid in. It's like raiding as a healer - your health keeps dropping and you have to heal yourself back up. Whereas with a shield tank, you feel like you are shrugging off the blows.

I was rewarded with the Sha weapon for my endeavours, although averaging only 471 ilevel, I can't see hitting 480 before the patch. I guess I will have to buy some more 496 shieldwall stuff after the patch when it is discounted, unless the new VP "consolation" gear GC mentioned providing to non-raiders is more attractive.

none of those look like the spear though...i wasnt saying there were no archy items that will help a mage, i was just saying the agil polearm wouldnt

gratz on the ony mountand we ended up going in and finishing MSV, and got repeat kills on will and the first boss in HoF3 pulls on the second boss and we were able to get him to 7%

Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPSAmirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego. Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.Sagara:You see, you need to *spread* the bun before you insert the hot dog.

It's not really enough, but it's already an improvement from not being considered at all

theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

halabar wrote:Noo.. you don't realize the problem. Worldie was to negative guild breaking energy like Bolvar is to the Scourge. If Worldie is removed, than someone must pick up that mantle, otherwise that negative guild breaking energy will run rampant, destroying all the servers.

econ21 wrote:I was rewarded with the Sha weapon for my endeavours, although averaging only 471 ilevel, I can't see hitting 480 before the patch. I guess I will have to buy some more 496 shieldwall stuff after the patch when it is discounted, unless the new VP "consolation" gear GC mentioned providing to non-raiders is more attractive.

May be worth going for the higher ilevel Neutral rep valor gear from Shado-Pan Assault. (The non-raider gear is at Revered on the new faction, again, and only ilevel 496.)

But that with the buffs to single spells should be good enough currently.

Also, yay for MM buffs, not sure SV needed them, though it could be prudent (from a design standpoint) to not have the 50/50 dps split spec be the top spec, when tuning raid encounters, and have the more hunterfocused spec be at least as good. (Though honestly I don't think SV really needed a buff, though it was lower than BM it was within the margin, MM did need a buff though)

It's not really enough, but it's already an improvement from not being considered at all

You keep saying that, but unless raidbots is completely broken, which is completely possible since the two options are Top 100 and everyone, it simply isn't the case that shadow is not competitive especially when compared to some other specs, like all specs of hunter.

KysenMurrin wrote:May be worth going for the higher ilevel Neutral rep valor gear from Shado-Pan Assault. (The non-raider gear is at Revered on the new faction, again, and only ilevel 496.)

Did they completely nuke the 476s for gold? Wont get you to 480 but might help.

We live in a society where people born on third base constantly try to steal second, yet we expect people born with two strikes against them to hit a homerun on the first pitch.

It's not really enough, but it's already an improvement from not being considered at all

You keep saying that, but unless raidbots is completely broken, which is completely possible since the two options are Top 100 and everyone, it simply isn't the case that shadow is not competitive especially when compared to some other specs, like all specs of hunter.

Link me this please as I've not seen it and would be interested in it.

theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

halabar wrote:Noo.. you don't realize the problem. Worldie was to negative guild breaking energy like Bolvar is to the Scourge. If Worldie is removed, than someone must pick up that mantle, otherwise that negative guild breaking energy will run rampant, destroying all the servers.

It's not really enough, but it's already an improvement from not being considered at all

You keep saying that, but unless raidbots is completely broken, which is completely possible since the two options are Top 100 and everyone, it simply isn't the case that shadow is not competitive especially when compared to some other specs, like all specs of hunter.

Link me this please as I've not seen it and would be interested in it.

theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

halabar wrote:Noo.. you don't realize the problem. Worldie was to negative guild breaking energy like Bolvar is to the Scourge. If Worldie is removed, than someone must pick up that mantle, otherwise that negative guild breaking energy will run rampant, destroying all the servers.

Yeah. Live SPriest is showing consistently middle of the pack among casters on overall, and 3rd best caster on the top 100. And on the overall chart Warlocks and Arcane seem to be something of an outlier.

2 new bossess down in Heart of Fear (frist 2) in about an hour ^^ Mage had to leave a bit early so we called it and I managed to get my paladin to 90 (finally). Ran trough Arena of Annialation and got a new weapon, bought a 463 shield for 200gold and got the tank necklace from the event boss ^^

Andurin wrote:2 new bossess down in Heart of Fear (frist 2) in about an hour ^^ Mage had to leave a bit early so we called it and I managed to get my paladin to 90 (finally). Ran trough Arena of Annialation and got a new weapon, bought a 463 shield for 200gold and got the tank necklace from the event boss ^^

Tonight i`ll be exalted with the August Celestials on my priest

Gratz! Best of luck with Garalon - he's kind of a bitch.

When that day comes, seek all the light and wonder of this world, and fight.

Andurin wrote:2 new bossess down in Heart of Fear (frist 2) in about an hour ^^ Mage had to leave a bit early so we called it and I managed to get my paladin to 90 (finally). Ran trough Arena of Annialation and got a new weapon, bought a 463 shield for 200gold and got the tank necklace from the event boss ^^

Tonight i`ll be exalted with the August Celestials on my priest

Gratz! Best of luck with Garalon - he's kind of a bitch.

Noticed that in the 2 tries we had... I was supposed to kite, but he targetted 2 diffrent random players twice I think its just a matter of getting the chaos down to a manageable level and kill him after that ^^