Andrew: Great stuff! I love to see the system being developed and the features you and your company are working on!

Thom: No sympathy. How about you work with the rest of those that are developing it rather than just whining?

J.

thats kind of a fucked up thing to say since i can personally vouch for thom helping people understand the internals to try and create things / improve. And thats besides the tons of improvements to LinuxMCE itself. Most of this development stuff is over my head, as anyone can determine from the evolution of my forum posts. But seriously? Work with the rest of us? That just doesn't compute imo. Not interested in a flame war hence me biting my tongue but thats a pretty fucking clueless statement.

Am i seeing this right?1 part of the screen will still be made by the proxy-orbiter and 1 part by the native os of the device?Wil your new Orbiter be faster then your web/proxy-orbiter 2.0?

br,Raymond

Hi Raymond,

The new proxy_orbiter will generate XML and this is what the new Touch Orbiter will render. Think of it like a Web server sending HTML to a web browser. We hope that the Orbiters will be faster than today's Touch Orbiters.

The code is all available on http://svn.charonmedia.org/trac.cgi/browser/people/darrenmason/AndroidTouchOrbiter which I plan to use as a base. As you will see it is quite basic but the general design will still work with XML from the server as well - it will just need to map the elements received to more Android UI objects, rather than just the ImageView. As soon as we know what elemnts are being passed then it can be done.

Phenigma has just under 500 forum posts (Granted that could all be spam or questions that are completely unhelpful to the community, I haven't gone through them all by hand).

I believe that participating in this community IS a form of contribution, and I find it offensive that you seem to suggest otherwise.

... must... not... troll... ... counterproductive...

tschak909 has just under 4400 posts, and has written more lines than most have read... Does he not get to be offended that it is suggesting he isn't "helping"?

Nahh... that's crazy talk. I am kind of a tschak stalker, so my position is probably a little biased... but I like phenigma (outside of this odd outburst). I think phenigma was out of line and off base, and had to know it would provoke a reaction. However lots of chatting and no doing is not contributing in the larger sense. I mean, sticking a support bumper sticker on the back of your SUV isn't exactly the same as fighting the war. Can only fix so much stuff and make so much forward progress with fewer devs than I have fingers. Major changes in methodology mean more work on an overstressed team... which is not to in any way disparage totallymaxed's team's tremendous contributions. They don't OWE anybody anything that I know of. Not keeping it to themselves I see as a gift, however I see why the guys in the trenches might have appreciated some collaboration.

Andrew, i like the idea and looking forward to the new Orbiter!I would love to see a screenshot on how you think an Orbiter should look like. This could also be a draft painting or whatever but i guess/hope you'll include that into the post in 10 days?!

Andrew, i like the idea and looking forward to the new Orbiter!I would love to see a screenshot on how you think an Orbiter should look like. This could also be a draft painting or whatever but i guess/hope you'll include that into the post in 10 days?!

So long,Nicolai

I will certainly post some screen shots here when I have some that are usefully complete. Safe to say that I would expect the UI to be closely linked to the platform the device in question is running. Having said that I think that we will maintain a close similarity between the iOS and Android versions.