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"It's a matter of time,'' Marbury added. "It's a countdown now. He put a countdown on his head. Now (the fans) know we're never going to win a championship like this.''

'He doesn’t teach defense,'' Marbury said. "He teaches offense. (Jeff) Van Gundy teaches defense. (The D'Antoni system) doesn't work in New York. Not in the East. You have to have a team that dives for balls and takes the 3 when nobody expects you to take the 3. You have to be inside the fans' minds and that's what they want. There's knowledgeable people in the arena. They're talking to you while you're shooting a jump shot.''

I might despise him as a person but as a coach, he does deserve between 20 and 40 games before I can say fire him. Part of me wants to hop on that bandwagon right now but it would be unfair.

I do believe his defensing coaching skills are questionable, but if the team takes it upon themselves to dive for loose balls (no homo), fight through screens instead of going under them, and keep their opponents infront of them, then that might not matter. Turiaf is back tonight and I think our defense is much better when hes on the floor.

Bad timing... you should wait til' we at least go on a three game winning streak.

We all from NY... since when do make excuses? Since when do we not just look at the results as the barometer? It's sad. I'm starting to think many KOL posters aren't real NY'ers. Cause the NY'ers I know care about the bottom line- not the reasons why it looks so bleek. N*ggas have some f*cking standards for crying out loud... its ok to admit if he isn't a good fit.

Bad timing... you should wait til' we at least go on a three game winning streak.

We all from NY... since when do make excuses? Since when do we not just look at the results as the barometer? It's sad. I'm starting to think many KOL posters aren't real NY'ers. Cause the NY'ers I know care about the bottom line- not the reasons why it looks so bleek. N*ggas have some f*cking standards for crying out loud... its ok to admit if he isn't a good fit.

Don't get emotional, Ron. You're just a little misguided at times. If Mike turns it around, I'll be first to congratulate him and admit I was wrong. I just don't see that happening because of his unbudging MO.

We'll see what happens. I voted in another thread to give him 20 games to turn it around. I don't think that's unreasonable.

I don't think you need between 20 and 40 games to tell dudes to stop chucking shots late in the game when you're trailing. Especially with everyone in the Garden screaming their asses off in anger at every perimeter shot that goes up.

Unless you guys are willing to bet that our shots will start falling consistently in 20-40 games, then ok...I guess.

But we're going to remain a "win one lose tons" team until we start utilizing more off-ball movement, down screens, back door cuts, etc. and the age old basketball 101 premise of move your body and move the ball. Swinging the ball around the perimeter for a 3 pointer, and standing around while STAT goes one on 3 in the middle of a zone defense isn't going to win anything...and I don't see why it would take any coach 20 to 40 games to just say "let's try something else." It took the fans the preseason and 10 games to say "what the **** is this?"

Don't get emotional, Ron. You're just a little misguided at times. If Mike turns it around, I'll be first to congratulate him and admit I was wrong. I just don't see that happening because of his unbudging MO.

We'll see what happens. I voted in another thread to give him 20 games to turn it around. I don't think that's unreasonable.

lol, well played sir.. right on w re: to giving him time. sadly, i'm beginning to think this is going to be learning SEASON tho !!! 30- 40 games might me more like it. hate to say it..