[THIN] Re: OT? WSH Logon Scripts

From: "Braebaum, Neil" <Neil.Braebaum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 16:23:43 +0100

Don't get me wrong - I see nothing wrong in expanding your scripting
knowledge - it can only be a good thing.
I honestly just think on all counts, Kix is more optimal for login script
stuff - especially as you know it already.
I just think - given your scenario - it's the better choice for what you're
doing, and I think the rationale behind the change isn't suggestive that the
solution will fix.
As a general example, I mainly use Kix for login scripts - both for terminal
server environments, and normal desktops (PCs). However, for certain things,
I'll use WSH / ADSI - for example, my printing rational is based around
using the location field on the computer object, to point to an OU where the
PC's printer objects are.
So I use WSH / ADSI for that. Although later versions of Kix include a lot
of the ADSI stuff, which weren't then in Kix when I first wrote this printer
mapping script, some of the tricks I use to help this rationale work, I
suspect wouldn't work in Kix - so that's the sort of thing I would use WSH /
ADSI for in the login environment.
It just seems that for the normal type of things that login scripts do - eg
map network drives, evaluate group membership(s), map printers, copy files,
read / write to the registry - all those things are substantially easier,
and less cumbersome in Kix, than WSH / ADSI.
I'm not intending this to be an advocacy against WSH / ADSI - merely an
appropriateness thing - using it for what it's most suited for, and not
binning something that's pretty darned good for what it does (Kix).
Neil
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Derek J. Lambert [mailto:dlambert@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 09 May 2003 15:42
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OT? WSH Logon Scripts
>
> Currently I have the script and kix32.exe in the netlogon
> share. Everytime one of the systems across the wan login they
> are running the kix32.exe from the server, which is taking a
> couple extra seconds. I know there are numerous ways around
> this, but I would like to further my scripting knowledge and
> do some work with WSH, since most all my scripting work until
> this point has been in perl and kix.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Braebaum, Neil [mailto:Neil.Braebaum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 9:20 AM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OT? WSH Logon Scripts
>
>
>
> Just out of interest, why is it you wish to get away from
> Kixtart - you've mentioned the WAN thing, is it the Kixtart
> caching functionality that's causing issues, or have you
> genuinely found performance differences in WAN environments
> between the two scripting technologies?
>
> I honestly think, for much of login script activity, that
> Kixtart can't be beat. And anyways, nearly always the best
> choice is the tool you're most familiar with.
>
> Personally I use Kixtart, WSH / ADSI / vbscript, and normal
> command files for various things - but I honestly think that
> for login processing stuff, Kixtart is the optimal choice -
> especially if you know it already.
>
> I would have thought you'll have plenty of opportuinity to
> use and learn WSH / ADSI / WMI stuff, from lots of other
> admin tasks you'll no doubt find.
>
> Neil
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Derek J. Lambert [mailto:dlambert@xxxxxxxxxx]
> >Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 8:44 AM
> >To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >This may be a little OT, but I was wondering if anyone had
> some WSH=20
> >logon scripts they could send my way. I am currently using
> kixstart,=20
> >but would like to migrate our scripts to VBScript & WSH to
> improve=20
> >execution time across our WAN. If you have something
> that's=20 not too
> >too=20 complex (I'm interested in mapping/deleting shares, checking
> >group=20 membership,
> >etc.) that you could share it would be greatly appreciated!
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