Black object doesn't move with the sun, but stays stationary in the picture. You get an illusion that it is moving over the sun, but it is the sun
that rotates, and the object stays still. Methinks more dust somewhere in the optical path of the instrument.

Nonsense like this "Gigantic Mothership" is not evidence of aliens. It is evidence of an image artifact. The scientists who know how their
instruments work know this. Fools (and frauds) who have no idea of how the instruments work don't deserve the attention they get and they certainly
don't help your "cause".

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Of course it's not Phage. I'm not even saying this WAS a craft of some sort. But I am equally cognizant of saying what it's NOT though. And no, I
don't know how NASA or Helio instruments work. So what? Duplicate this then. Show me how it's done.

I'm not even saying this WAS a craft of some sort. But I am equally cognizant of saying what it's NOT though.

Ok...what is it NOT? Not an image artifact? You're positive of that? Why?
If it isn't an image artifact it must be an object. If it's an object, how can it not be there then 12 seconds later be there then 12 seconds later be
gone, never to reappear? Doesn't that mean it must have been a hyperdimensional gigantic craft near the Sun?

I don't know how NASA or Helio instruments work

And you have no intention of learning anything about them whatsoever, do you?

Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE
Here are some new shots of the image processed through some different filters:

Why do you keep posting this junk from Hannard? Need I remind you what you said here?

Sorry, I only believe the raw original feeds from NASA. It has been shown that they have tampered with thousands of images. If you are using possibly
tampered with NASA images you are only going to convince the truly gullible.

And can ANYONE support this statement from Hannard in this video's description?

This object is only visible for three frames, this indicates the object was travelling at a tremendous velocity, far exceeding light
speed.

What three frames? This is only said to appear in one.

Do you really think SDO could capture an image this defined of a craft "far exceeding light speed"? Please.

at light speed, the object will have a length of exactly 0.0m (Lorentz contraction). Furthermore, a CCD needs some exposure time, so at a high speed,
the object will travel so fast, that no camera will capture enough light on a single pixel to even image it, so it will be impossible to image....

So, the answer is NO, the object was not travelling near light speed, and faster than light speed???? Well, we all know how possible that is

You might be 100% correct. But I can't help but recall, cavemen were positive the sound of thunder was a god getting angry because they were
as smart as they believed. I'm sure if they had an ATS board, they'd get a bunch of stars for saying so too.

Being aware of time and history.....I am POSITIVE in 500 years from now we will have gotten a LOT of things incorrect. And I don't mean a little
things. So I think it's best to remain humble.

Eh, that's life.
And ego.
And arrogance all wrapped up in the modern day person. We think we have great deduction and reasoning skills because we can create things

Besides....if it's been widely considered that UFOs reside in a different unfamiliar dimension then..... how is it we remotely know their functions,
their behaviors or capabilities?

Just amazing.

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Yes, whenever I challenge the rigor of evidence -- I do have in the back of my mind the question; "how much can we truly know?"

I'm absolutely sure you are right -- in 500 years we will know we got THE BIG THINGS WRONG.

Maybe some 3rd level aliens are adjusting our star -- who knows? While I'm sure that some advanced beings have already discovered us, I'm pretty
sure we'll only get evidence of creatures that much further evolved than us when they want to be discovered. It's up to humanity to act like this is
our only life and we are our only salvation -- depending upon myths, Gods and aliens is an unhealthy co-dependence and perhaps it's also the very way
that we fail their test.

Up to 115 flags now? And judging by where the stars are going, it's clear which camp has settled down. Funny how even though I am a believer, having
seen things myself, I feel like pulling my hair out and sit with the debunkers. Human_A, it's your fault for that. You completely ignore logic and
replace it with obnoxious tabloid tales feeding ufo nutters into a frenzy.

First post, hello there. Forgive me I just skimmed through the thread.

So even a newbie like myself that knows very little on the subject can see holes in the argument of this being a mother ship

Couple the sizes of Jupiter? Surely something of that mass would have a significant gravitational pull? Ok so a bit of guess work here, Kepler? Not
sure but a device that is used to look at stars and watch for wobble to determine orbiting planets, many have been found of Jupiter size (I think), I
could google all this but I am fat and lazy, and im probably like 70-80% correct so far (Maybe more, give myself some credit, maybe Kepler looks for
Transit vans, who cares)

Right so my main concern is that if we can currently detect planets orbiting distant stars basically by looking at the wobble caused by the planets
mass/gravity, then how da # can we not see such a huge object that is literally in our back yard in terms of the size of the galaxy?

With any luck a huge mother ship does pull up to the sun and wobble it enough to give Ireland a decent summer, because so far its depressing

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