Take the poll: Are these guys Constitutionalists, Conservatives, or establishment Republicans?

by Wilson

Wednesday, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:57 AM EST

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Today on radio, Glenn kicked off the show discussing where several Congressmen fell on the scale between anarchy and totalitarianism. Some, he argued fell close to the Constitution and believe that when push comes to shove they stand fast to what the Founders put on paper? Some he said would compromise on some issues, but still stood for conservative principles. And some are just members of the Republican establishment.

Interesting survey there, and I wonder how close to the truth I gauged each of them. I hope the results of the survey are published in short order after it is completed.

In the case of Obama. Pelosi and Reid the four choices would be:

Extremists
Radicals
Racists
Completely insane

Anonymous

How could you pick one category for those three? You would need a fifth category – “All of the above”.

Anonymous

In the case of snowleopard, the choices would be

Nucking Futz
Fucking Nuts

http://youtu.be/R7MC2wu49Cw Sam Fisher

But your party started the KKK.

Anonymous

If you mean the Democrats you are correct. For a real eye opening and serious read on Democrats, I suggest “Battle Cry of Freedom” by McPherson (before and through the Civil War). Excellent history book that should shake even the hardest core Democrat. The party of Racism isn’t a strong enough name. You have to remember that the Democrats didn’t change much until the 1960’s and it came as opportunism more than caring about race. Into the 70’s against busing and still trying today to pass racist gun laws (look at Federal legislative and State histories all the way from 1860’s through the 1970’s when they went underground).

http://profile.yahoo.com/RFRZSYTYEEEG7JFEUM62VEQEDI jerry

Thank you calditz!!!!!! Now if the TRUTH is not enough then I feel very sorry for Sam Fisher.

http://www.facebook.com/william.vining.3 William Vining

Pretty simlistic view of history. The wing of the Demncratic Party that supported segregation and racism was called “the Dixiecrats”. They pretty much left the GOP en mass during the Civil Rights Era in the ’60s when Richard Nixon swung the GOP’s position on Civil Rights to their liking, Democratic politicians became GOP politicians all over the South, and blacks utterly deserted the GOP. There is a reason 90% of blacks vote for the Democrats, I’m surprised you thing black people are so stupid they would belong to a party that you claim is raciakly biased towards them.

http://www.facebook.com/ed.johnstun Ed Johnstun

The Demncratic Party is still racist

greywolfrs

In the case of critter, the choices would be

Moron
Idiot
All of the above

http://youtu.be/R7MC2wu49Cw Sam Fisher

And then there is Joe Biden the biggest racist to come to their party since the KKK.

Draxx

I still question whether or not he is with the KKK…

http://youtu.be/R7MC2wu49Cw Sam Fisher

I would to but he said some racist things. I mean could you imagine the hell Bush would have got if he said that you never see a will dressed black man or only Indians run seven/elevens. People like him would be demanding his head but since it is good old crazy Uncle Joe and they ignore it.

Some I’m not familiar enough with to say..I will need to learn more about them.

Anonymous

They all want to dictate to you what you can do with your body.

http://youtu.be/R7MC2wu49Cw Sam Fisher

Oh poor critter only makes up 20% of the country.

greywolfrs

Tyhere are no Democraps on the list…

http://twitter.com/Horace_Kent Horace Kent

Glenn, where are the Neo-Cons?

Why are they off-limits?

They have control of the GOP.

http://twitter.com/BrandonKing15 Brandon King

Rubio is a constitutionalist!

Anonymous

No, Rubio is a plain old Republican, which is why he gave the GOP SOTU response.

Tony Castronovo

Rubio is a Republican. That is why he gave the SOTU response!!

http://twitter.com/BrandonKing15 Brandon King

Yes, as in he is part of the Republican party, along with everyone on this list… But – he is also a constitutionalist. He has repeatedly voted against the Republican party in the name of the constitution. I don’t consider myself a Republican but if I was given the opportunity to give the SOTU response I sure as hell would. You can’t demonize him for acting upon the opportunity to speak to millions of people for free.

Anonymous

In the case of “That Guy”, you should allow people to vote from the following:
A.) A-Hole
B.) Muslim
C.) Terrorist
D.) Liar
E.) Corrupt
F.) S.O.B.
G.) All Of The Above

My vote would be G.

http://twitter.com/FelineBengal Jane Ellison

Agree, 100% He’s a well-rounded “G”

http://www.facebook.com/gloria.payne.35 Gloria Payne

I wonder who you are talking about ……NOT I KNOW WHO IT IS and you are correct

Anonymous

I like “Second Term POTUS” way more and I could not be more Proud of him

Anonymous

.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H3FKWX5SAT4RBBNEEW7PV7XDWY B

America is dead, too many stupid American people.

Anonymous

I really think you should get in contact with these congressmen as I believe there are in the Constitutionalist/Conservative category: Justin Amash (3-MI) and Thomas Massie (4-KY) first and foremost, both Rand Paul endorsed if I’m not mistaken. Also, Steve Stockman (36-TX) and Kerry Bentivolio (11-MI). All of these are very Constitutional candidates.

Anonymous

I agree with your suggestions – it would also be cool if Glenn could talk to Paul Broun (GA-10) who is running for Senate in Georgia and is definitely a Constitutionalist.

Tony Castronovo

Rand Paul voted yesterday to confirm Hagel as defense secretary. In my eyes he is a real disappoinment and now I consider him and untrusting RINO.

http://youtu.be/R7MC2wu49Cw Sam Fisher

What the hell. I wish I read that before I voted.

Anonymous

He’s going to be on Beck tomorrow to talk about it. In my humble opinion one vote to confirm some weirdo does not a RINO make. Rand has his reasons and will explain tomorrow on the radio show. Don’t get too excited yet. Rand is doing more for our freedoms than any other Senator I know.

Anonymous

And almost every other one of his votes over the last 2 years have been excellent. Rand made a bad mistake here, but he should be forgiven, providing he puts up a good fight against the Brennan nomination.

Anonymous

Do you even realize that Hagel is a republican with a reasonably conservative voting record? Complaining about his appointment is tantamount to demanding that Obama appoint a hardcore leftist to the position, as that would certainly be his next choice. The only reason most republicans voted against him is because Obama made the nomination. This argument is nothing more than political theater, and you’re completely falling for it.

Besides, he has a history of non-interventionist rhetoric, which is right in line with Rand Paul’s stated beliefs. The only thing people see as a sticking point is that he puts the US before Israel (he is a US politician, after all) which apparently makes him anti-semitic in some eyes.

http://www.facebook.com/andrew.frazer.35 Andrew Frazer

Hagel is the biggest RINO on the planet. It actually should be criminal for him pose as a republican. Look at his record if you don’t believe me.

Tony Castronovo

“FREEDOM AND AMERICA DIED 11/06/2012″

Tony Castronovo

QUOTE:

“This year will go down in history. This is he first time a civilization has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the world will follow our lead into the future”. ADOLPH HITLER, 1935
END QUOTE:

Matt Driscoll

THIS IS A FAKE QUOTE YOU MORON!!!! Do some research.

Tony Castronovo

In regards to the survey i really don’t know who is what!!!! They all lie and deceive so much that I cannot distinguish the true patriots!!!!!! One day they are patriots, the next day they are RINOS!!! Do a survey of the Governors in each state and their past statements on fighting Obamacare and then changing course and accepting medical Exchanges, i.e. Rick Scott – FL, Jan Brewer-AZ, Mike Beebe-AR, etc. I consider each of them RINOS and have sent them emails regarding my feelings.

http://youtu.be/R7MC2wu49Cw Sam Fisher

We need more constitutional minded people.

http://youtu.be/R7MC2wu49Cw Sam Fisher

Why in the hell is Joe Scarborough on the survey?

http://www.facebook.com/vicki.martineau.14 Vicki Martineau

To get a truer result on the survey, need a “don’t know this person” category. Otherwise, you force an answer that may be totally uninformed.

http://www.facebook.com/vicki.martineau.14 Vicki Martineau

Need a category of “don’t know this person” in the survey in order to get a true picture. This forces an answer about someone that may not be known and therefore, an inaccurate label.

Anonymous

hmm… i kinda figured that the poll would include options other than the ones provided. a better poll in my opinion would be a scale of 1-10, anarchist – statist. or even one that is anarchists, democratic (not the party), statist.

however, most of the above would most accurately labeled “corporatists” – with most politicians from both parties serving the corporate state.

http://www.facebook.com/dickbivin Richard Bivin

Add some more names to your poll.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000624033471 Lois King

RAND PAUL HAS BECOME , A SELF-CENTERED IDIOT

Anonymous

Some of these guys are actually Demo’s. It is time to
separate the wheat from the chaff.

Anonymous

I think Bibi should be our president….None of these people work for me….just sayin..:)

Anonymous

Please add “Wingnut” to the poll so i can take it. Actually I don’t always agree with my Governor here in NJ Chris Christie who way to conservative for my taste but at least he in not a Wingnut like the rest of those names. And you forgot to add Comrade to Ted Cruz’s name

greywolfrs

Maybe we should add “idiot” to the poll and your name…

http://www.facebook.com/ed.johnstun Ed Johnstun

and your name!

http://www.facebook.com/randycaryn.rose Randy Caryn Rose

I think the problem is that we have lost sight of what America is, There are no longer any leaders left our congress and senate on both side have fallen into the sewer of greed.

http://www.facebook.com/robert.b.binder Robert Bryan Binder

LOL, conservatives closer to anarchy? Give me a break. While they may talk a good game when it comes to domestic fiscal matters, they are completely for centralized state-controlled military adventurism as well as coercive civil liberty violating policies set and enforced by the state. Yeah, such crazy anarchists (absence of government). Lefties are the flip side of this generally. They talk a good game regarding civil liberties, but they are all for centralized state-controlled economic planning. They even used to be anti-war, but Obama is an even bigger warmonger than Bush.

I’m sure Glenn got most of this from the book the 5000 Year Leap. It’s a useful heuristic device, but only if the ideologies are located correctly on the spectrum. Historically, classical liberals were on the very far left (like Bastiat), while conservatives (those who wanted to conserve or maintain existing political structure – monarchy, mercantilism, etc…) were on the far right. The language began to change when the old school conservatives began adopting the language of the classical liberals in order to deceive, similar to what liberals/progressives have done most recently.

Murray Rothbard’s The Betrayal of the American Right is an insightful read that covers changes within the political right in the 20th century:

Whatever he is, Marco Rubio is not a “natural born citizen” and therefore, not “Constitutionally elibigle” to be President or VP. It might be good to get that point settled legally before proceeding to the nomination… .not that anyone seems to really care. Damn the Constitution!! Full steam ahead!

Sen. Ted Cruz is the true Constitutionist and very conservative and would be a great president. Rand Paul is a sell out and I will no longer donate to the Tea Party Express because they back him. I expected him to not be the loon his father is but as the saying goes “The Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree!”

jgbrite

I don’t know what thier faith is. I think you would need to be Christian conservative to be a Constitutionalist.

I had a real problem with Newt Gingrich. He’s a progressive, and there was no category for progressives!

ken.

rino’s are progressives

jgbrite

If you look at what the Republican party has become, I think the Conservatives, Christians, and Constitutionalists are the Rino’s now.Republicans tolerate us when they have to, but they really don’t like us.

Vae Victis

Beck should have included himself in his poll.

A Conservative, among other things, believes in conserving the principles of the Constitution with all it’s limited enumerated powers. There are many who claim the title of a Conservative but are nothing of the sort, most of the names in Beck’s Conservative category are a joke. He hasn’t a clue of what he is talking about (which would explain his need for the poll).

Ron Paul and Penn Jillette are not Conservatives, Ron Paul believes in Voluntarism which is nothing but an anarchist’s dream of a Utopia. It is unachievable and creates more problems then what it claims to solve, in that aspect, Voluntarism is no different than Marxism.

What is not shown on his blackboard is that the two political ends of the spectrum are connected into a circle because Anarchy (Chaos) leads to Tyranny (Authoritarianism) and vice-versa. Not Good.

History has proven the wisdom of the US Constitution and the abuses it can endure. But as is evident, it cannot endure them forever. The best balance and defense against Chaos and Authoritarianism is the Constitution of the United States and the principles behind it.

‘When once a republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of
the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost
principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.’
— Montesquieu’s Spirit of the Laws, VIII,c.12

Anonymous

Congressman Justin Amash (3rd District-MI) would be a great starting choice in the House.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1023963614 Randolph Hepp

It’s plane to see how we feel about these guys. Now Glen, keep a close eye on my man Vern Bochanan, from Florida. He does town halls and listens to the people.He seems like a great American to me, how about you guys?

greywolfrs

OK, first one must understand that your spectrum is wrong.

First, the far right wing concept is not anarchy, it’s Fascism. Fascism is a strong national pride, amoung other things.

Second, Communism/Socialism is the far left wing concept and is a collectivist idea. The opposite side of the coin to Fascism.

Both can be seen leading to Totalitarianism by different dictators, but are opposite ends of the spectrum.

Third, Anarchy is a complete LACK of government, therefore is neither right nor left.

Fourth, Libertarians are not for Anarchy. We understand that government has its place. The problem we have is an over-reaching government, such as the US government is NOW. We are for personal freedom, as the founders intended. No one is saying that one person’s personal freedom negates another person’s personal freedom, that is why we have laws. Let’s take the “drugs” issue, since you menioned it. Prohibition is not within the power of the Federal Government. The Constitution grants the Feds certain powers and that falls outside of those powers, therefore it is reserved for the states and people, respectively. Where Libertarians are not willing to compromise is on following the Constitution. We either DO follow it or not. One can not say that prohibition on pot is wrong without realizing that ALL prohibition is wrong. One can not say that prohibition on alcohol is wrong without realizing that ALL prohibition is wrong. That is why you believe we are all or nothing on that subject.

As to where these guys fall on the political spectrum, I am sure that is debatable. In most cases, one can point out things that show them on the Conservative side, Republican side and being RINOs. I will not take the poll because the choices are far too limited.

http://www.facebook.com/ed.johnstun Ed Johnstun

You could not be more wrong. You need to watch agenda grinding america down http://vimeo.com/52009124. The far left is Communism/Socialism/Fascism/Democrat/all forms of Totalitarianism. The far right is Anarchy. The Democrats were just left of center. The Republicans were just right of center. Now the Democrats have joined the far left and the Republicans ate just left of center.

greywolfrs

So, anarchy, which is a complete lack of government, is far right? As I stated before, you do not get to make up the definition of words to fit into your stupidity. Anarchy is neither left nor right, it is a COMPLETE LACK OF GOVERNMENT. Your little video doesn’t change the definition of the words…

http://www.facebook.com/ed.johnstun Ed Johnstun

Think about it. If one end of the spectrum is total control the other end is no control. It can not be total control at one end and a
different type of total control at the other end. It is obvious that you received a liberal
lack of education at a public re-education center and drank all the Kool-Aid.

greywolfrs

Actually, looking at the definition of the words, not making up definitions tells one this. You are looking at things from a very narrow point of view. The spectrum should look like a diamond with a cross through the center, not a straight line. Fascism should be on the far right, socialism/communism should be on the far left, totalitarianism should be at the top and anarchy should be at the bottom.
Totalitarianism is absolute government control, therefore the opposite of that is anarchy. Socialism/Communism is a collectivist mentality, where Fascism touts individualism and a strong national pride.
It’s OK, keep thinking you know something and being stupid. That seems to be working great for you. Talk about lacking critical thinking skills, there you are.

http://www.facebook.com/ed.johnstun Ed Johnstun

Calling names just shows how little you know. I do like some of what you say. However your attempt to widen
your view distorts the problem. Socialism/Communism/Fascism=Totalitarianism. They are the same damm thing! Your view is the Kool-aid that the Communist
have been shoving down everyone’s gullet for the last 100 years. It started with Stalin’s no the Nazis are
evil and we are the good guys. Meanwhile
killing off his own people. Through
today with people who equate conservatives with Hitler. The biggest problem with libertarians is that
they go too far it’s your all or nothing mentality. We didn’t get here overnight and we can’t get
our country back with one election. If libertarians
would vote for people McCain in 2008 or Romney in 2012. We would not have obama today. When you don’t vote for the lesser of two
evils you choose the worst evil. So I
blame the short sighted pig headed libertarians for where we are today stuck
with the man who hates our country and will do anything to bring America
to and end. THANK YOU MR, AZZHAT.

http://www.facebook.com/ed.johnstun Ed Johnstun

You call me stupid yet you are unable to even understand how little you know in your attempt to widen
your view you distort the true problem. Socialism/Communism/Fascism=Totalitarianism. They are the same damm thing! Your view is the Kool-aid that the Communist
have been shoving down everyone’s gullet for the last 100 years. It started with Stalin’s no the Nazis are
evil and we are the good guys. Meanwhile
killing off his own people. Through
today with people who equate conservatives with Hitler. The biggest problem with libertarians is that
they go too far it’s your all or nothing mentality. We didn’t get here overnight and we can’t get
our country back with one election. If libertarians
would vote for people McCain in 2008 or Romney in 2012. We would not have obama today. When you don’t vote for the lesser of two
evils you choose the worst evil. So I
blame the short sighted pig headed libertarians for where we are today stuck
with the man who hates our country and will do anything to bring America
to and end. THANK YOU MR, AZZHAT.

http://suzeraining.wordpress.com/ suz

i have no idea who/what any of these men really are.

http://twitter.com/matrixdefector Linda Pratt

You need to keep a watch on Tim Scott of South Carolina – very positive so far.

most are conservatives,some rinos. If McCain had been included, I’d call him a D.I.D.

Americanfirst

Maybe you should have a democrat choice. Some of these pple may say they are republicans but they have even left RINO status. Anyone who outright votes against the Constitution is a democrat. This is the party of Lincoln, the party that freed the slaves. We are the only country in the world with a republican party. What a shame they have trashed it so.
Why Isn’t Palin on this list? She has worked very hard to get people elected – Deb Fischer just to name one. Palin is a relentless defender of our constitution, that is why the liberals hate her. If you are going to Penn up there, why not Rush? Levin? Why are we only looking at Government? I don’t think government is the end all to be all. Why not Beck? Why not have more choices and don’t box pple in. Alan West, Anne Marie Buerkle – she lost her seat defending the constitution.

Anonymous

You are missing Jim Jordan of Ohio…Constitutionalist

Frank Livingston

I suggest you list a simple definition for each one so we can get a feel for voting. Also, I wonder what Sen. Paul and others would do if Obama started appointing Muslim Brotherhood members to his cabinet, staff and judgeships? Why no discussion on the Rep. Bachmann letter to the Muslim Brotherhood’s on congressional representative, Rep. Ellison? http://shoebat.com/2012/07/15/michele-bachmann-fires-off-a-16-page-bombshell-to-muslim-congressman-keith-ellison
What about the response to her and the other five Congressmen that asked five IG officers the extent their organizations had been infiltrated by the Muslim Brotherhood? They had a September suspense date but they have failed to respond. http://bachmann.house.gov/press-release/house-members-seek-national-security-answers-inspectors-general
Will you follow up on this with an article?
Here is a discussion item: Is Obama using the Muslim Brotherhood to form a global Caliphate or is the Muslim Brotherhood using Obama to form one? Why do discussion on UN Resolution 16/18 and the YouTube briefing: Stephen Coughlin, Part 5: The Role of the OIC in Enforcing Islamic Law
Stephen Coughlin, Part 5: The Role of the OIC in Enforcing Islamic Law

http://www.facebook.com/andrew.frazer.35 Andrew Frazer

From my point of view…

Paul and Lee, are far right.
Cruz, Flake, Toomey and DeMint, are at the happy medium point.