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Re: Luck so far

You guys are not going to get anywhere, but requesting OlBlu to get banned. It plays exactly into his hands. If you want him gone, reply to his posts with thought out sane responses and watch him continue to descend into his own madness. It's much more fun this way anyway.

But to continue to call for his head, you are giving him his best defense. Which is that everyone here is just "against" him, just let it play out, we've seen this 100 times on PD. Yes, I like to play with trolls as much as anyone, but continuing to ask for him to get banned does nothing but tick the admins off and give OlBlu the ammo he needs to defend himself. If you respond to him with logic and thought our responses, no matter how far out of left field his views may be, eventually he will either get bored and tone it down or leave, or he will slip up so much trying to draw attention to himself, that he will get banned. But continually asking for him to be banned is going to accomplish absolutely nothing, that has never been how this board has worked.

Re: Luck so far

Hey, I have admitted that I was wrong about this week. The Colts have already accomplished everything I expected for the season. I think Reggie Wayne had the game of his life. Thanks for understanding that I am not a troll. I don't pick on posters. I am still not sold on Luck and still think the Colts made a ten year mistake on him and when that proves to be wrong, I will certainly step up and admit it. Some folks here just can't stand to hear a word other than how wonderful Luck is and the Colts management is. I still don't believe in either one of them but I am sure happy they won even if it did cost me a fantasy league win. I had the Packers defense. I haven't been happy with that all year but my back up defense is Buffalo and that isn't any better... ...

A ten year mistake? Please explain to me how this is going to be a ten year mistake. Even if he never gets better than he is right now, he's already a more than serviceable NFL QB.

Re: Luck so far

Hey, I have admitted that I was wrong about this week. The Colts have already accomplished everything I expected for the season. I think Reggie Wayne had the game of his life. Thanks for understanding that I am not a troll. I don't pick on posters. I am still not sold on Luck and still think the Colts made a ten year mistake on him and when that proves to be wrong, I will certainly step up and admit it. Some folks here just can't stand to hear a word other than how wonderful Luck is and the Colts management is. I still don't believe in either one of them but I am sure happy they won even if it did cost me a fantasy league win. I had the Packers defense. I haven't been happy with that all year but my back up defense is Buffalo and that isn't any better... ...

Ten year mistake? I guess you mean a mistake for every other team in the league since Luck will kick their asses for the next 20 years

Re: Luck so far

This quote from Indystar is why Luck is already so smart, great understanding of how a game works and flows.

On third-and-7 at the Packers 14 with 47 seconds remaining, Luck took off. He scrambled up the middle, diving for 7 yards and a first down. Luck described his mad dash as understanding "situational football.""I realized we needed a first," he said.Had he gone into a QB's slide, he likely would have come up short of the sticks."In a crucial situation," Luck said, "you duck your head and get (it). You'd better duck your head. You owe it to your teammates. You owe it to coach Pagano, the coaching staff, the fans, everybody who loves this organization."

Re: Luck so far

You guys are not going to get anywhere, but requesting OlBlu to get banned. It plays exactly into his hands. If you want him gone, reply to his posts with thought out sane responses and watch him continue to descend into his own madness. It's much more fun this way anyway.

But to continue to call for his head, you are giving him his best defense. Which is that everyone here is just "against" him, just let it play out, we've seen this 100 times on PD. Yes, I like to play with trolls as much as anyone, but continuing to ask for him to get banned does nothing but tick the admins off and give OlBlu the ammo he needs to defend himself. If you respond to him with logic and thought our responses, no matter how far out of left field his views may be, eventually he will either get bored and tone it down or leave, or he will slip up so much trying to draw attention to himself, that he will get banned. But continually asking for him to be banned is going to accomplish absolutely nothing, that has never been how this board has worked.

This, or just plain IGNORE him.

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Re: Luck so far

Rivers, RGIII, Cutler (on a good day) are at least able to make an argument. Though the last greatly two benefit from having good teams/receivers around them.

Alex Smith, Andy Dalton, and Matt Schaub are hard to gauge due to the talent and depth within their respected teams.

Vick, Romo, Stafford, and Newton, have all had tremendous ups and downs. (You could put Cutler in this group as well) they've all struggled to put up W's at one point or another--some in spite of having talented teams around them.

Re: Luck so far

He's way better SOONER than I expected, to be quite honest. I expected him to eventually get to where he was yesterday, perhaps a year from now (as a non Colts fan & a dispassionate observer).

The earlier assessment of him being behind only Rodgers, Brady, PManning, EManning, Brees, Ryan, and Rothlisberger is probably accurate. In five years you likely are concerned only with Rogers and Ryan among those, and Luck will get better. RGIII, Shaub, and Dalton (and just maybe, to my astonishment, Tannehill) could be the ones to fend off. Plus Ryan Mallett.

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Re: Luck so far

If you don't like my posting about it, just ignore them. See, it doesn't work like that because other people respond to it, the entire topic at hand gets derailed, and the thread no longer has any bearing on what it originally did. I don't give a **** if I am "playing into his hand" or not, it's bull **** that he's even allowed around here.

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Re: Luck so far

It's important to note that the rough Bears game still has a significant impact on Luck's overall statistics. He had a 52.9 passer rating that day. He was 23-45 with 309 yards, 1TD, 3 INT. But let's look at how other QBs have fared against Chicago this season:

Rodgers: 22-32, 1 TD, 1 INT, 219 yards, 85.3 rating

Bradford: 18-35, 0 TD, 2INT, 152 yards, 39.2 rating

Romo: 31-43, 1 TD, 5 INT, 307 yds, 60.1 rating

Gabbert: 17-33, 0TD, 2 INT, 142 yds, 37.7 rating.

So to put it into context, Luck played the very first game of his career on the road against a very solid team that has made life difficult for every QB it has faced this season. The Chicago game still has a significant impact on his stats as there have only been four games. The only QB that has looked OK against Chicago is Rodgers, but even he didn't have a great performance by his standards. Romo, Gabbert, and Bradford all looked awful against Chicago.

Re: Luck so far

Running game? Defense? Right now Kevin Kolb's team is 4-1 not a whole lot worse than one Mr. Schaub's.

Record wise they aren't a whole lot worse. Perception wise--different story. Houston is widely regarded as one of the two best teams in football. Arizona is a feel good story who just got curb stomped by the mighty Rams. Schaub was good before he had a running game. He's been a solid quarterback for years. He's a step below elite, whereas Kolb is a step above atrocious.