You are flippin with AK , AQ-. Lose to 10 10+ , so i dont see the polint calling here. For 10-20bb i would definitely call but for 50 not.
BTW what oponent had?

#4

4th September 2013, 9:31 PM

skrsh76 [993]

Poker at: pokerstars

Game: holdem

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshimiii

No I fold if he's an unknown, racing at best usually.

Even if he has a premium hand why would anybody go almost 90BB. Does the villan play this good.

What did he have?

#5

4th September 2013, 9:33 PM

jcdagenius [297]

Online Poker at: bovada.lv

Game: holdem

re: Poker & $5 NLHE 6-max: 99 vs 50BB shove

I wouldn't call...to deep to call shove and we could be dominated

#6

4th September 2013, 9:35 PM

Speedexas [276]

Poker at: Pokerstars

Game: ZOOM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skrsh76

Even if he has a premium hand why would anybody go almost 90BB.

What did he have?

Where did you got that number? Its NL4 and clearly written 46bb. He can have a lot of hands but usually they will have AJ+ so its 50/50.

#7

4th September 2013, 9:47 PM

sillymunchie [554]

Online Poker at: PKR

Game: HOLD EM

yeah lol they aint dominating you, would be rather stupid for them to shove AA or KK, cus no value in it, The only point i would make is, if your going to raise that huge pre with pocket 9s then surely your bleeding money? your inflating the pot way too much for no reason,

#8

4th September 2013, 9:53 PM

igySK [228]

Poker at: ipoker

Game: NLH

i was iso-raising to 5BB after CO limped so that's pretty standard and not huge. As far as calling the shove goes, he shouldn't have QQ+ in his range so that's why I decided to call.

#9

4th September 2013, 9:54 PM

skrsh76 [993]

Online Poker at: pokerstars

Game: holdem

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedexas

Where did you got that number? Its NL4 and clearly written 46bb. He can have a lot of hands but usually they will have AJ+ so its 50/50.

my bad. thought .01/.02

#10

4th September 2013, 10:59 PM

jackaoliver [377]

Poker at: Pokerstars,

Game: Hold'em

re: Poker & $5 NLHE 6-max: 99 vs 50BB shove

If you have no information then assume he is a donkey and is doing this with QQ+, dont risk 50bb on a flip, there will be better spots to take his money

#11

4th September 2013, 11:03 PM

ScottishMatt [2,311]

It's not just a shove. It's a limp/shove. The most kind of nutted shove within an idiot's arsenal.

Iso/folding is good. If he just open shoved I would have a harder time folding.

#12

5th September 2013, 12:25 AM

Yoshimiii [1,058]

Poker at: Pokerstars

Game: Hold'em

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishMatt

It's not just a shove. It's a limp/shove. The most kind of nutted shove within an idiot's arsenal.

Iso/folding is good. If he just open shoved I would have a harder time folding.

No it wasn't, re read post.

#13

5th September 2013, 12:33 AM

ScottishMatt [2,311]

That is what happens when I reply at this time of night.

Hand is kinda meh. I probably just fold cause I'm a nit.

#14

5th September 2013, 6:53 PM

jaworek1405 [306]

Poker at: PS & FTP

Game: holdem

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedexas

You are flippin with AK , AQ-. Lose to 10 10+ , so i dont see the polint calling here. For 10-20bb i would definitely call but for 50 not.
BTW what oponent had?

I agree. IMO it is bad call. Almost 50bb is too much for 99. It is a half of your stack. Often you will have a flipa, here often TT+ is possible. You are brave with that a call.

An unknown's range doesn't really include many hands you beat. You say he shouldn't have QQ+ in his range but I could easily flip that and say he 'shouldn't' have <88 in his range either. I don't think it's particularly more likely villain is a bad player shoving aces than it is that he's a bad player shoving something like 77 or a weakish Ax hand.

#16

5th September 2013, 8:16 PM

micromoi [286]

for me iuts an easy fold you are behind or fliping, thats not a winner play.