Katie Orr updates us on efforts by some California counties to secede from the state. Auburn attorney writes book chronicling the lives of local homeless people. CATS offers up some unique ghost stories and Capital Stage takes on "MacBeth."

Capitol Chat: State of Jefferson In this week’s Capitol Chat, Capital Public Radio’s State Government Reporter Katie Orr talks about some Northern California counties’ continuing efforts to secede and form a new state with Southern Oregon called the State of Jefferson. You can hear Katie’s reporting Monday from the area that could one day be known as the State of Jefferson in Morning Edition and All Things Considered. But today she joins us in studio to tell about what she's learned.

"Until They Have Faces" You may find it hard to empathize with homeless people, and part of that may be because they’re kind of a faceless underclass in America. But Auburn attorney Bob Litchfield’s theory is that if you knew the story behind a homeless person’s circumstances you’d be more inclined to sympathize with their plight. He began interviewing less than a dozen homeless people as part of a short documentary project and got hooked on their stories. Now, he’s collected the stories of more than 100 homeless people living in the Auburn area and has compiled them into a book titled “Until They Have Faces.” Litchfield joins us to explain what he discovered in his book.

"MacBeth"Capital Stage is producing an original adaptation of Shakespeare’s “MacBeth” starring Scott Coopwood and Janis Stevens, both of whom have portrayed these title roles in the past. It's also the first time Capital Stage has taken on Shakespeare. We'll talk with director Stephanie Gularte about what makes this production different and we'll hear from Coopwood and Stevens about their respective roles.