Well took my own advice and got a differnet answer today than any that I had gotten in the past , which would make Duffster correct ! The trooper said as long as the gcwr is not over 26k the trailer can weight more than 10,000 lbs. I must say I have asked this question a hundred times and this is the first time that it was put this way. So hats off to Duffster

That is true. That wasnt where the disagreement was though. It was whether you can tow those trailers with a vehicle that is inadequate to tow it. And you cant. Your still talking in terms of cdl laws only. And before that it was weather trailer manufacturers could add tongue weight into the GVWR. And they can.