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Comentado por ra2phoenix

This faction appears in the list after talking to the dragon just inside Caverns of Time to begin the chain of quests there, which is required to access the CoT instances. The quests must be completed for each instance to unlock the next one. The first CoT instance is Escape from Durnholde, then the Dark Portal, after which the Hyjal raid is unlocked. I do not know the method of gaining rep with Keepers of Time other than doing the quests and possibly slaying bosses in the instances, but the rewards for rep are very nice.

Comentado por StringAnomaly

To add on a tiny bit, the meeting stone outside says you must be level 64 - 70. Once inside there are wandering 70 elites and a slew of vendors selling alchohol to reagents. There is also a provisioner from which you can buy food, water, arrows, and bullets for level 70s.

At the end of the caverns there are three different instance entrances to different time periods, but none are open at this time.

The entrance to the caverns is 65, 49.

Comentado por dreichwein

You get alot of rep from doing the quests to free Thrall and ensure Medivh opens the Dark Portal. For example, I have done three Durnholde runs, one Black Morass, and the quests to complete these instances and have went from starting rep to 800 away from revered. You also get rep from trash mobs and boss kills, more on bosses of course. I am not sure how much, but I'll try to document the rep better next time I run Durnholde or Black Morass.

Comentado por Cubituss

+8 rep for trash mob+80 rep for bossCan't say how much rep for finishing the instance (Durnholde). In one run I went straight to 3400/6000 friendly, never done anything for the keepers. I checked before entering and I was neutral.

Comentado por Bethek

The quests are non-repeatable. Cashing in the final part of breaking Thrall out of jail and saving him, rewarded me with 3000 rep.

Comentado por Grael

Comentado por Sapilas

Confirmed. After finishing the Black Morass I got just over 8k rep for handing in the quest.

Comentado por Urahara

I just did a complete Durnholde run to get some of my friends through. I earned exactly 917 points of reputation with the Keepers of Time. So, you can count on getting just a shade under 1k rep for a full run, assuming you have already done all the associated quests.

Comentado por Simple

You receive a minimum of 1110 rep per Black Morass run (15x normal min-boss mobs which reward 50 rep, 3x bosses which reward 120 rep). You will also get a few single points of rep randomly throughout the instance from some of the 'adds'.

This will give you rep all the way through to exalted with Keepers of Time.

The quickest run of Black Morass I have experienced was 35 minutes. It was done with a paladin tank, holy/disc priest healer, and 3 mutilate specced rogues. I was one of the rogues, and had to handle adds. To do a run in approx 35 mins you will want to be dps heavy like we were :)

Comentado por imbalimba

I did it in 26min with a group of: Druid(tank)Mage,rogue,shadow priest and me, paladin.

Comentado por Kathucka

No reputation-based rewards for hunters, and nothing for an alchemist who already has flasks from pre-expansion drops or auction house purchases.

However....

Tarren Mill Defender's Cinch (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29319) is a reward for freeing Thrall, and has great MP/5 without wasting item points on spell damage or healing. Hunters need mana from somewhere, and this is a great place to get it. It also has two red sockets, so put in red gems for better physical damage, or blue gems (losing the socket bonus) for even better mana restoration.

Letting Medivh open the Dark Portal rewards the Time Bending Gem (a ring, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29321) with stamina, dodge, and attack power. That's good for hunters who PvP.

There are some decent hunter drops, as well. Captain Skarloc in the Old Hillsbrad Foothills drops a one-handed axe (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27424) with crit, attack power, and stamina, and also the magnificent Scaled Greaves of Patience (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27430) with agility, stamina, intellect, attack power, MP/5, and three sockets.

Comentado por Linnia

I'd like to mention you also get "Brood of Nozdormu" rep when you get Keepers of time rep and possibly Scale of the sand rep. Have not gained any rep with them to deterimine this but my brood rep has definitely gone up from doing old hillsbrad.

Comentado por Linnia

ffs. this is WRONG. I guess i got crosseyed and looked at my other hated rep. the bloodsails.

I don't know WHY you don't get rep though.

Comentado por Zenrei

To be honest though, especially with low population servers and (not to be discriminatory) Horde, BM runs are extremely hard to pull together. Normally, even if I do get a decent group, it takes half an hour to get even at peak times, another 20 to set everyone up, and then another 10 just because some people are stupid or the alliance decides to camp us while we summon.

Durnholde, however, doesn't require 70s, and isn't that long, maybe half an hour longer than BM. However, I'd take the extra half hour knowing it's a high rate of success and that I can grab a group of 67s in 10 min and down the last boss.

In my server in particular, all the geared Horde are in servers that only run with each other, so Durnholde is the best choice for me, and I can squeeze out 1008 rep from it.

Comentado por Handorion

Does anyone know how much rep one would get by running both Old Hillsbrad and Black Morass in Heroic mode?

Comentado por Zandranas

There is no rep bonus for running the instance in heroic mode and both will give rep all the way to exalted - so if that's what you are aiming for it's faster to run BM back to back until you're there...

Comentado por torani

You can also get rep randomly by releasing prisoners using the Ethereum Prison Key in Netherstorm. I got 500 Caverns of Time rep while I was trying to get Consortium rep. Not a good way to farm rep, but it is out there as a possiblity to earn some random reputation.

Comentado por shakaama

why is the list of items by the quartermaster much shorter than the list above? where are the other items?

Comentado por andyliu1210

i got a question:

when i'm honored with Keepers, do i still get rep from doing normal Durnhold?

Comentado por Ampoliros

Yes, you will recieve reputation from Black Morass/Durnholde up to exalted, even on regular.

Comentado por laerhof

*EDIT (Wrath)*

From now on it is possible to teleport to the CoT by using the portal in Violet Citadel in Dalaran.It sits on the 2nd floor to the left.

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Actually, the requirement to teleport to the CoT (from Shattrath) is Revered.

Comentado por Heenk

There is indeed a rep bonus on heroic. All the mobs and bosses give more rep. A clear of Heroic Durnholde will give approximately 2300 rep (versus 900 from the nonheroic version), and a clear of Heroic Black Morass will give approximately 1725 rep (versus 1110 from the nonheroic version).

Comentado por killmurlocs

what rep do u start with?

Comentado por Gilidor

is there a way to do quests outside a dungeon for rep with them? at least until honored?

Comentado por Evandar

The reputation reward from killing of mobs in Black Morass on Heroic Mod is 65 each rift lord and 250 each boss. Very easy to get exalted with this faction. ''Completing the Black Morass gives you 8500 rep total.'' -->Confirmed

EDIT: For Gilidor: if you mean that is there a way to farm reputation by quests without doing instances, no. There are some quests but you can complete them by doing the instances.

No comment about my english. I know I suck.

Comentado por VanCleef

I just want to add that you only get 8500 reputation the first time you do the instance (with the quests), after that you will get under 2000 per run.

Comentado por Buuuz

Yeah Круто!

Comentado por arsin29

I tank this with my pally (non-heroic) and found that as a paladin tank, it's easier just to hold adds, dps boss down fast and then have everyone pick off the adds. If you can DPS the rift keepers/lords down fast enough, you only get a few adds.

Comentado por yorcie1

an instance faction

Comentado por tigereye

Ok I saw this video on Youtube. And yes i know this doesnt really happen.

The qiraj are ordered by C'thun to attack the caverns of time. The twin emporer gather up the army of the Qiraj and does his will. The qiraj put up a good fight and are eventually defeated... But not before Prophet Skeram uses the magic of the Caverns of Time to go back in time and bring back the old gods.

Comentado por Trollometer

I can't understand why there is an instance in tanaris with 70 elites in it im like =o wtf so i go looking for this place but i cain't find it ok so yeah its weird because its just weird ok cya lata =)

Comentado por Trollometer

I still don't understand why there is a 70 elite raid in tanaris =0 I was freaked out when i saw on wowhead.

Comentado por Wiglif

It is noteworthy that at lvl 80 all reputation gains for this faction from killing mobs in instances is halved.

Comentado por homeric

Regarding the CoT portal in Dalaran:

I just used it with a level 44 shaman without any Keepers of Time reputation (i.e., the faction isn't even listed on my reputation tab).

My guess is that the portal has no level or reputation requirements. Finally, an easy way to access southern Kalimdor!

Comentado por Raxiel

Update, As of 3.0.8 as a level 80 human I got

1176 rep for normal Old Hillsbrad1225 rep for normal Black Morass1624 for Heroic DurnholdeDon't know about Heroic BM because I hit Exalted while running it.

Comentado por Biggrim

I will attempt to solo Heroic Durnholde this evening, Naxx 25 geared Feral Druid, I'll let you all know the results.

Edit: Trash that patrols the instance is suprisingly easy. On single mob or 2 mob fights I finish with 95~100% hp. The wardens down in the pit are a problem, I don't have enough interrupts to really get them down efficiently. If you get more than one in a fight, you won't be able to down them. Definitely soloable.

Comentado por Lake8888

My KoT rep has been stuck at 6000/21000 since TBC, so i decided to farm the rest.

Most of it was grinded by clearing Normal Durnholde Keep up to 2nd boss, reset and start over. As a prot pally, its about 600 rep in 25 mins. very, very slow. but since its normal mode, its hard to die. I can also engage ard 3 packs of mobs at a time, compared to only 1 pack in heroic mode.

Now that i think about it, it may be faster if you farm the mobs between 1st and 2nd boss over and over again. Clear HEROIC durn up to first boss only. After that, release thrall, clear the 4 packs spawn. Let the 2nd boss kill thrall so that he ends up in jail again. That should take around 7 mins. Each mob gives 15 rep, so clearing 4 x 4 = 16 mobs will be 240. 21 mins and you'd already have 720 rep...

Haven't really tried it though. Its a pain for a Prot to kill those groups with 2 wardens when its in heroic mode

Comentado por Tyristrasz

Alternatively, you can use the Waygate in Sholozar Basin to get to Marshal's Refuge.

Comentado por reloader

I became honored with KoT after runnind old hillsbrad and BM and completing quests there =)

Comentado por Alleymonkey

I would also like to add you can get 500 rep with KoT if you use a http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29460 and it frees a member of this faction. Although the % chance to free a KoT npc is far too low to be farmed, it could be a nice bonus if you were farming consortium rep and happened to free a KoT npc as well.

Comentado por Kaosu

Soiling normal Black Morass as moonkin. It's not too hard, grants approx 1116 reputation per run and one run take slightly less than 20 minutes (from Medivh to last boss' death), making it up to around 3330 reputation per hour.

//So, last run took 17 minutes, so lets say it's 20min per run.

Comentado por Titansteelsword

If you wanted to farm rep fast, and could solo heroic black morass, just let the last boss kill Medivh... The instance resets and you get to farm rep all over again :)

Comentado por Gojka

Or just take the portal in dalaran to caverns of time?

Comentado por swoopy

Very easy as a Arms Warrior at 85, both Black Morass and Old Hilsbrad heroic (letting Thrall die twice before exiting keep) got me 4782 reputation... That includes the extra reputation from the guild perk that gives extra 10%.

P.S. to get there buy a portal to Theramore, or take free portal to Uldum from Stormwind/Ogrimmar (if you did the quests).

Comentado por SCViper

As far as I can tell the most efficient way to grid this rep is in heroic Durnholde and you get roughly 4500-5000/hour (as a level 85).Here's how you do it:

1) Clear every single trash mob, kill the first boss.2) Free Thrall3) As thrall is running to get his armor go out and kill the 4 mobs by the bridge. If you're a ranged class just nuke them from up high, if you're mellee use any ranged ability to pull them to you.4) As soon as the 4 mobs in the doorway of the castle spawn nuke them immediately.5) As soon as all of these are dead jump down and kill the 4 mobs at the end of the bridge and run back to Thrall.Thrall should be in battle with the last 4 mobs (the second pack in the normal sequence) that spawn at the bottom of the ramp. Let them get him to 25% and then quickly nuke them 1 by one but leaving one to kill Thrall. If you're REALLY skilled you can time it perfectly so you kill the last mob just as Thrall dies, but this has a high chance of failure and if you do fail you have to wait for Thrall to run out of the castle walls and get killed by the second boss which wastes time.6) As soon as Thrall is dead run back in to his cage inside the castle, wait for the respawn and do all of this again.

This whole cycle lasts roughly 3 minutes and as far as I can tell can be repeated indefinitely (later edit: there is a limit to this, I managed to get about 7K rep before I was warned this was the last time Thrall could die). The faster you kill the spawning pack in the doorway (first pack in the normal order) the better. The better you time Thrall's death so as he dies as soon as you kill the third mob from the back the more efficient this is.Every cycle should award you ~250 rep (15 mobs x 16.5 rep each = 247.5) so that's almost 5000 per hour, and running normal black morass should net you ~3650 per hour. Both calculations include having the guild perk and be non-humans.

Since I hate running through all those trees in black morass I'll stick to this option :D.

Comentado por Skie

Comentado por Mydge

Great idea! I played with the plan a little and ended up running to option B in the end (after Thrall died a couple of times on Option A)

In a Normal Escape from Durnholde, after 17 Thrall deaths in 1.5 hours before I got the warning, I got1500 rep.

Option A

Activate Thrall's escape.

Run straight out of the keep, over the cliff and onto the bridge. Tap a mob in the first group and keep running to the far side of the bridge. Destroy all the mobs.

Run back, Swipe to get all the aggro back off Thrall (he is at 25-50% by this time).

Run down the ramp, let the 4 mobs attack Thrall. At 50% take out the mage. Then slowly take out each mob, leaving him with one to kill him.

Rinse and repeat.

Option B

Activate Thrall's escape.

Run straight out of the keep, over the cliff and onto the bridge. Tap a mob in the first group and keep running to the far side of the bridge. After aggroing the other side of the bridge, run back to Thrall.

Run back to where Thrall will be, and start killing all the bridge mobs. The other mobs should spawn on top of you (keep those off Thrall). I usually leave the mages to shoot at me while I loot. Thrall will occupy himself getting sheeped by the mages.

Run down the ramp, let the 4 mobs attack Thrall. At 50% take out the mage. Then slowly take out each mob, leaving him with one to kill him.

Rinse and repeat.

Of all the possible ways to farm KoT reputation, this would have to be the easiest. Not to mention having vendors available in the instance! (Southshore pub).

By the time I left, Thrall was weeping in the foetal position under a cold shower, muttering "I feel so used".

Comentado por aphixx

Successfully employed this strategy as a lvl 85 mage.

Interesting to note what happened when I actually killed all the mobs. Thrall ran out to the boss that rides up with two adds. I let them beat Thrall down to 30% then killed the boss. The two adds took Thrall down to zero health but he doesnt go down. I kited the two adds all the way back to the keep and upstairs (top floor) to aggro the group of four along with the adds.

As I write this the six adds are still beating on Thrall and have been for about 10 mins. His health is zero and hes not going down.

So, if you kill the last mob using the farming strategy there is no hope to return!

EDITCorrection. After writing the initial post I returned to WoW to discover that Thrall and the mob had de-spawned. I ran down to the jail cell and Thrall was ready for another farming cycle. So it appears that you can get away with getting all the way to the boss and pulling back to the farming cycle if you accidentally kill all the mobs. I can also confirm I received 300 rep for the boss kill in this scenario, and after a few more farming cycles got 300 for killing him the second time. On the second kill he had no loot however.

Comentado por tobindax

That's not very fast. That's not very fast rep at all.

Comentado por tobindax

That's not very fast. That's not very fast rep at all.

Comentado por tobindax

Sorry but that method is not fast at all. It appears to give only up to around 250 rep every few minutes. It appears to be more convenient to do BM which gives the same rep for the trash + the same rep for the mini bosses + the same rep for the final boss. Its main disadvantage is the 1.5 minute wait between phases, however, if you browse the web at the same time, it's convenient. I guess it depends on how you view it. If you 'zerg' the game, you may want to do thrall but never ever stop. .

It's one of those cases people are impressed because it's a 'hack-ish' method. But that doesn't mean it's so amazing.

Comentado por tobindax

Problem is, those are heroic numbers and can be done once a day.

The rep is slow. Even with the 'Thrall hack' discussed here it's not that great.

Comentado por tobindax

On Cataclysm,

Unfortunately, even with the "Thrall hack" discussed here it's slow. It's only about 250+perks every few minutes. Theoretically you would be faster with Black Morass but since it has to be done in heroic mode to be competitive, it can only be done once a day.

Comentado por tobindax

On Cataclysm,

The rep is slow even with the "Thrall hack" discussed in here . However, it might be your best bet because while theoretically Black Morass might be faster it can only be done once in heroic mode a day. It has also a 1.5 minute waiting time between phases, making its normal mode most probably much worse than "Thrall".

If I were to make an estimation, it's probably ideal to start the day with Black Morass heroic, then continue with "Thrall" heroic.

Comentado por tobindax

If you kill Thrall's boss and let Thrall try to die from the boss' ads, the ads will eventually die from his attacks because he remains immortal at health 1. This will bring him to the normal position of waiting for you to talk to him and progress to the next boss. However, if you let the instance soft-rest by not being in it for some time - I haven't tried an explicit reset from outside the instance - you can then repeat the cycle. The non-dynamic trash respawn as well. It also requires the 4 bombs routine but the 1st boss does not respawn.

i.e. Long story short, you might want to kill the boss and leave the instance if you want to continue your route a few hours later (if an explicit rest from outside the instance does the same it wouldn't be worth it due to the travelling time).

Comentado por tobindax

85 zerg Method:

1. Black Morass heroic X 1 (you're now saved)2. Thrall "Hack" heroic (look in here in comments) X as many times as it gets for it to stop working (there is a limit)3. Black Morass normal X oo

Repeat routine the next day.

Comentado por yrch69

The easiest way I found was to farm trash in Heroic Old Hillsbrad. Zone in, clear all of the camp and keep NPCs, but don't set the fires. Once everything is dead, run out, reset, repeat.

With guild perks (non-human), I got ~1300 rep per reset. As a prot pally, it took me about 15 minutes, including running time. High rep per hour (5000 or so), no time limits or gimmicks, and no risk of getting locked out of the heroic. If you want to go Neutral to Exalted in one day, this was the best method I found. Took about 8 hours total from 0/3000 Neutral to Exalted (this is including the first two clears of normal OH and BM to get to Honored).

Comentado por yrch69

The easiest way I found was to farm trash in Heroic Old Hillsbrad. High rep per hour (I got about ~5000 / hour, but this is 6500 potentially before you hit the hourly zone cap), no time limits or gimmicks, and no risk of getting locked out of the heroic.

Just zone in, clear all of the camp and keep NPCs, but don't set the fires. Once everything is dead, run out, reset, repeat.

With guild perks (non-human), I got ~1300 rep per reset. As a prot pally, it took me about 15 minutes, including running time. If you want to go Neutral to Exalted in one day, this was the best method I found. Took about 8 hours total from 0/3000 Neutral to Exalted (this is including the first two clears of normal OH and BM to get to Honored).

Comentado por jdurand1970

To get seemingly unlimited rep (I've done this several times in a row now), though it is a little time consuming, simply clear the first 5 mini-bosses of the Black Morass then leave the instance and reset. That get's you 390 rep each time (78 rep per mini-boss).

It's quick (less that 3 minutes, I believe) and you can do this as much as you want. As long as you don't kill one of the mini-bosses, you can do it all day long.

I have gone from low-level Honored to almost Exalted in less than two days (less than 3 hours of time invested).

Sure, run the full Escape from Durnholde and Opening the Dark Portal, but save that until you're at a point where you are almost ready to stop for the day. Theoretically, I suppose it's possible to go from no rep to Exalted in one day using this method (I haven't done the actual math).

I hope this helps.

EDIT: One point to be aware of. You may receive the "You have entered too many instances recently" message. That should go away after an hour or you can log off for about 15-20 minutes and then try again. I have heard you can only enter 5 instances an hour, but I think this may not always be true as I have gone in and reset instances a whole lot more than that).

Comentado por MizKitteh

Just soloed BM..Seems to me, that even with the human Diplomacy and Mr Popularity, I totaled 1332 rep in one clear (regular). This is minus any adds..I got 60 per rift keeper/lord (5 per wave) and 144 per boss (3).

Comentado por bountyhuntbe

Keepers of time is certainly one of the more predictable rep farms. - Don't think we can call it a grind just because it's boring!

At 85 you can clear the areas faster than you can move on to the next areas meaning you are actually shut into the scripted events timing. This makes the process of rep farming long and incredibly boring. This applies to both the Black Morass and Escape From Durnholde.

It certainly seems worth the grind however, especially with the introduction of Transmogrification to the game! As a warlock who sometimes uses daggers - if they're decent at least the exalted dagger Fendedor looks pretty nice, especially if you plan on using the Tier 5 set!

Comentado por Psycho944

At 85 as a human in a level 25 guild all I did was clear 17 waves on Heroic BM and the 18th let the end boss kill Medivh, wait until he respawned, and do it again. I got 1170 per run after about 20 minutes or so.

Comentado por zaheer12a

The Thrall loop does not work anymore. After a couple of times the Image of Erozion shows up saying: "I have set back the flow of time just once more. If you fail to prevent Thrall's death, then all is lost." After this Thrall does not respawn anymore. You cannot reset this by leaving the instance and going back inside.

Comentado por Mulockt

Just ran Both Heroic and normal modes in Escape from Durn, and Black Morass.. (level 85 Kitty Druid)

I just sold all items that were picked up, except for skinned leather and cloth.

Along with 8 stacks of netherweave cloth and 6 stacks of Knothide leather..

Should be exalted tomorrow..

Edit: After selling the cloth and leather, it brought the total of gold made to 662 gold.. Nice to spend on vanity pets. =)

Comentado por kenny447

If you don't want to mess around with any of the bs just keep running Old Hillsbrad Foothills over and over and over. Do the heroic one once. I had it down to a science and i still never hit the instance cap per hour. There aren't many shortcuts your in for a grind.

Comentado por Rizzi35

Being lazy, and looking through these comments, my head hurt a little so I kept it simple.

Heroics aside, I did a run on OHF and BM, and looted each mob.

BM easily beat out OHF in terms of reputation per minute.

Pulling 10-10.5k in each run, regular BM took 13 minutes from the moment I entered to the moment I was out, yielding 1221 reputation with guild perk of an extra 10%. This was an average of 94 reputation per minute.

regular OHF took 21 mins and only yielded 1062, for an average of 51 reputation per minute.

Comentado por Syndi23

Not sure if it's already been posted, if it has, think of this as confirmation. The Pit Spectators give no rep. Hoping they would, I killed a few, and nothing. So don't waste time clearing them!

Comentado por Spacingangel

I'm running Opening the Dark Portal/Black Morass as a 85 paladin and it seems that after the first time you let Aeonus kill Medivh you dont get any rep anymore from the 2 bosses from the 6th and 12th rift. Both the Rift Keeper and Lord give 71-72 rep with Mr. Popularity. This is in patch 4.3.

I can confirm that the bosses don't give anymore rep or drops after you killed them once. Also after Aeonus killed Medivh you'll have to wait around 4-5 minutes before the dungeon resets.

Overall you get around 1000-1010 rep per run without the boss rep. With the first 2 bosses you should get around 1550 rep, the bosses give 275 rep each.

Note: Some over the add's spawning from the rifts tent to give 4 rep, although this is so random it's not worth waiting for them to spawn everytime.

Comentado por Deuren

When running HC:Durnholde, clear whole building then start Thrall's escort and run out from the building. Put your Estandarte de Batalha da Coordenação near the building entrance, wait for trash group to spawn at entrance and kill it. Then run down the hill to bridge, kill trashpack at both ends of bridge and go back up to the hill. You will see 4 mobs fighting Thrall. Wait till Thrall has like 30% hp, kill three of them and let Thrall die. In like 30 secs he will respawn where you start the escort. Repeat until elf holograph tells you you have the last chance. After that don't let him die and finish whole dungeon.

Comentado por Jessia

I have found it a bit faster to grind out this brutal slog by simply killing all the trash and not killing the boss. With the guild perk and a Estandarte de Batalha da Coordenação you get 4500 in 40 minutes. If you run in the front gate, hang an immediate left and drop down into the prison barracks roof, you can check for the patrol pat. Grab it, both sets of barracks guards and head for the bridge. Once you grab the middle group, drop your banner and kill them all. With a strategic placement, you can get the bonus rep on all but three mobs, essentially the upstairs keep mobs and the extreme left side pair of guards under the watch tower. Each clear nets slightly over 1100 rep and with a speed boost from crusader aura or hunter/dk movement bonus you can kill every thing, run out, reset and run back just as your banner comes off cool down. After you hit your hourly instance limit, go do ogri'la or Skyguard rep or work your loremaster quests. Come back in an hour, repeat. It cuts the monotony and you can get 20k rep easily in one days time, more if you want to spend a whole damn day doing it.

Since I cant link a screenie, you basically want to put your banner just past the bridge on the south side nearer the stairs. Placing it against the east wall right near the pillar means you get extra rep.

Comentado por Treebloom

Due to some of the videos on here explaining it rather ambiguously, I created a video tutorial on how to do this:

Comentado por Beltane

Black Morass is actually a very good way of farming rep: put your Estandarte de Batalha da Coordenação down right in the middle and just kill all of the waves. The banner lasts for 15 minutes and has a 10 minute cooldown, I cleared the whole thing in 12 minutes (you have to wait for 2 minutes after each boss before the next wave spawns...) and got 2182 rep, or 182 rep per minute.

On normal, doing the same thing, I cleared it in 11 minutes and got 1404 rep, or 128 rep/min. Assuming it will take on average 12 minutes to get out and back in, you can do 1 heroic and 4 normal runs in 1 hour, totalling approximately 7800 rep. This means just by farming Black Morass for one hour a day, you can get from revered to exalted in 3 hours spread over 3 days.

Comentado por skuggfax

Farming Black Morass is absoulutely the best way of earning reputation, in one full run of BM on normal using Estandarte de Batalha da Coordenação in the middle to get the 15% extra reputation ALL the time I got 1407 reputation, doing this in HC will get you about 2100-2200 reputation, this is by far faster than doing the escape from durnholde!

Edit: one run in BM take me as a shadow priest about 12 minutes

Comentado por ElicaQT

I ran through both dungeons, normal and heroic, incl tried the farming tactics. Amount of reputation gained and tactics;I had the Guild Perk 10% extra reputation.

Black Morass Heroic (a simple clear) - 1897Black Morass Heroic farming - 1073 for each "bonus run", meaning 1st-17th rift. (Bosses only give rep first time they are killed)Farm tactic - Complete all rifts but let the 3rd boss (18th rift) kill Medivh and restart the whole thing. Last boss gave me 275 rep. I dont know how many times you can do this before it tells you off, maybe someone can fill that in if someone wants to try it. Run out, change difficulty to normal, then heroic, then run back in. Didnt work for me to just choose "reset".It takes at least about 11 minutes to complete a BM run, you cant hurry up because you need to wait for the rifts.Black Morass Normal - 1221

Escape from Durnholde Heroic (a simple clear) - 2811Escape from Durnholde Heroic farming - 297 for each "bonus run", meaning from Thrall's basement til his death at 2nd boss.Remember to pick up the bombs from Erozion at the start, next to the dragon.Farm tactic - IMPORTANT! Clear Tarren Mill from trash, they will despawn after last boss' death and you might not have time to kill them while Thrall is running around. Then, kill the first boss at the keep (set the houses on fire and he'll spawn) and clear all the trash. Free Thrall (he's in the basement), kill all packs and you will reach 2nd boss. Do NOT kill the boss! Let them get take down Thrall's health a bit, kill the Warden and the Veteran, and make sure Thrall has the aggro from the boss and let the boss kill Thrall. It will reset and you can do this Thrall run again (run back to the basement and free him, kill the packs again and let 2nd boss kill him. If you kill the boss, the 2 boss followers cant kill Thrall. You can let the last pack of trash (before 2nd boss) on the bridge do this instead to save time, but you'll lose about 50 rep per bonus run if you do so and you need to make sure that the last target in the last pack kills Thrall. I find it easier to let 2nd boss kill Thrall instead of trash.Escape from Durnholde Normal - 1327

Comentado por Iwap

Not sure if they fixed this or not. But I let Aeonus get his shield to 0% and nothing happened. He just kept channeling and Medivh's shield was still there. I waited for about five minutes and nothing happened.

Comentado por Ardinur

My farming method: I go to Durnholde HC and run and kill every guard in Tarren Mill. Then I rush to Durnhold Keep and kill every guard over there. This nets me about 1100 rep total. When I'm done I just run out and force a instance reset, and start the whole thing over. Each run takes about 6-7 minutes, and is really easy. Note that I do not kill any bosses.

Comentado por Abacrab

This rep was a pain in the backside to get up for me. I tried the Escape 'trick' on heroic, but that instance is a terrible bore. I later had much better success in heroic Black Morass. In EFD you get a paultry 18 per enemy and there is too much traveling. I was getting 78 for each rift keeper (300+ when you get the bosses).

I was level 90 at this time. This is what I found more enjoyable:

I would just jump in, kill the first gate guys.Queue for a random BG, kill the rest up to the first boss. By the time I killed gate #5 I would be in a bg.After the BG I am outside the instance again, just hop back in...rinse and repeat.

I would also suggest having some of the new darkmoon faire hats for rep gains as you grind, and Keepers of Time was a pain!

Comentado por bljames2

In Heroic Escape from Durmholde you can let the Epoch Hunter kill Thrall and a guardian will reset the last battle. You have to wait until he does, then go back upstairs in the house to talk with Taretha to restart the final battle. You will still get 18 rep for each of the 10 kills again each time you let Thrall die. it takes about 5 minutes total to kill all 10 and go back upstairs to wait for Thrall to die. but it is an extra 180 rep for 5 minutes time... Bonus: if you are a Skinner you can skin all 10 of the mobs outside while waiting for Epoch Hunter to finish off Thrall.

Comentado por Eekwibble

As great as SCViper's method is, it is actually wasteful of both time and valuable rep points.

If you follow this method you can maximize your rep gain for just a few minutes more overall, and I'll show you why you should at the bottom of the post.

At the start collect the incendiary bombs from the guy next to the draggy then run to Tarren Mill. Clear Tarren Mill of its 19 mobs (360.525 rep), but don't waste a battle standard cooldown on them (313.5 rep), the reason being that you can't kite them to Durnholde - they'll reset about 100 yards out of the mill, and you'll want a battle standard for the big pull, next.

Run to Durnholde and pull everything outside of the keep. All of it. There are 44 mobs and 5 hounds. Pull them all up to the keep, drop a battle standard and kill them all (853.875 rep).

Light the huts and kite the 1st boss towards the keep and kill him (316.25 rep). Pull the 2 guys asleep in the NW room of the keep as well as all the others downstairs, run up to the top room and pull those 4 as well, run back down to the keep entrance and kill everything. That's another 11 mobs and 1 hound (212.52 rep).

From this point you will have to keep an eye on your battle standard cd. Keep it active at all times and make especially sure it is up when you do the final event loop of the 20.

Once you start the event run out of the keep, mount up and jump over the fence, ride/fall down the bank and go right over the bridge;

Pull all the adds back to the keep and LoS them inside the doorway. When they all come in AoE/speed-kill them all down - grps 1,3 and 4 - then run down the hill and AoE/speed-kill grp 2;

Run to Captain Skarloc's spawn, wait for the short rp to finish, kite his 2 adds most of the way back to the keep and kill them. Wait just outside the keep for Thrall to die - it takes less time for Skarloc to kill him than it does for 4 mobs - and for Skarloc to despawn, then go down to Thrall's cell and rinse/repeat.

Each run takes approx 2.20 - 2.40 - depending on whether or not Thrall decides to be a f%$&ing t&%t noob ignore your LoS and run straight out of the keep, stalling the mages, which is highly irritating - and nets you 341.55 rep per loop, as averse to 247.5 rep per loop from SCViper's similarly timed runs, over 94 more rep per run.

On the 20th loop make sure your battle standard has long enough left to affect Skarloc and after the rp pull him along with his adds back towards the keep to make sure you get the buff for the extra rep. All-in-all that's 360 mobs and 1 boss (7147.25 rep).

Speak to Thrall and head back to Tarren Mill, kill any patrols on the way. They don't give rep but they often attack Thrall and slow things up so it's easier to just wipe them out.

Once there, speak to Thrall again as soon as you have your battle standard available (or only 30 secs to go on the cd should be enough time). Run to the barn and wait outside for the mobs to spawn. When they become attackable, aggro them and run to the 2nd spawn point at the chapel and drop one last battle standard. Kill them and the 2nd group (which takes a while because Thrall runs back to the barn then back to you again, the scrub'a'nub) then go into the house and kill the 3rd group (you will get the rep buff killing them where they spawn). That's 12 more mobs (227.7 rep).

Speak to Taretha and head outside for the final boss fight which I have no need to tell you anything about except that it's 10 mobs and 1 boss (506 rep).

This strategy aims to maximize rep gain and is very time-effective. Rep-per-hour is pointless calculating as it takes as long as it takes and the idea is just to maximize rep, albeit in the fastest way possible.

For the escape event alone this strategy grants over 1830 more rep than SCViper's; 6831 for this strategy compared to 4999.5 for SCViper's, and that's without Skarloc's rep. Bear in mind that regardless of how long each individual event run takes it is better to maximize the rep gained than to waste rep for the sake of a few seconds.

Even including looting time (which you should definitely take, just do it on the return from Skarloc, while he's still fighting Thrall, not during your precious kill time) you can do it in well under an hour which still makes it one of the best time-managed rep grinds for KoT.

Taking into account every available rep-giving mob and every kill made, you should get 9577 rep for the full clear.

Not a bad result considering you will likely be well into Friendly, if not Honored, from levelling runs and quests, so you may be able to hit Exalted in just 2 days - yeah, get that: TWO DAYS! From just FOUR HOURS grinding! Bargain. Never mind getting 5k rep and coming back the following day, then the day after that, then the day after that, ad nauseum. You can get it done in what has got to be one of the shortest grinds of any faction in-game ------- Fendedor & Fórmula: Encantamento Superior de Agilidade - Luvas make it a very worthwhile 4 hours to spend.

I hope you find this useful. =)

Comentado por andrei1127

SC viper's ideea is good but i found an improvement after you do everything he said you can kill the second group as well,and at the exit the second boss will came kill the adds,let boss kill thrall:D and repet(i ve tried to hit boss and let him go low hp to kill right after he kills thrall but it doesent work only the additional adds the boss will disapear after killing thrall:D

Comentado por PanzersSkywall

Patch 5.3 / Aug 1st 2013 / 90 NE Hunter (no rep bonus)

Here's my math:Durnholde keep (from hopping on the dragon until last boss killed)

Normal1024 rep in 11 mins5585 rep / hour

Heroic2365 rep in 12 mins11825 rep / hour----Black Morass

Normal1221 in 10:21 mins7175 rep / hour

Heroic1898 in 10:26 mins11099 rep / hour

Comentado por Seagoon

Heroic Black Morass: ~1900 reputation. Note: this instance can be farmed on heroic by letting the last boss kill Medivh and repeating the first 17 waves.

Be aware that though Aeonus breaks Medivh's shield fairly quickly, it takes about 5 minutes for him to kill Medivh and reset, and during that time, it appears that Medivh is taking no damage. I was about to give up on this method as having been "fixed" before he finally went down. It then takes another 5 minutes or so to reset the portals.

Add to that the 2 minutes break between each boss death and the start of the new portal phase, and this method gets very boring very quickly.

With the time it takes, I'm not convinced that it's worth it.

Comentado por wschlichtman

It may be obvious to most but it wasn't for me. Make sure you pick up the incendiary bombs at the start. If Thrall does not have the option to break out of his cell, you forgot to get the bombs and/or burn the buildings.

Comentado por zybero

Heroic Black Morass: ~1900 reputation. Note: this instance can be farmed on heroic by letting the last boss kill Medivh and repeating the first 17 waves.

At level 90 a clear of the first 17 waves results in 1551 rep assuming you have the Mr. Popularity perk from your guild.

Comentado por Kammeyer25

If you are that type of person that wants to clear the whole heroic dungeon instead of farming it for hours, here's what to do:

I found this to be the most effecient way of getting the most reputation possible.

1. You pick up the Pack of Incendiary Bombs and fly to Durnholde Keep as you enter the dungeon.2. Pull everything around the pit using your ground mount. do not dismount!3. Once everything around the pit is pulled, go to the bridge in the middle.4. place down your banner of cooperation / banner of coordination on the middle of the bridge and kill the mobs. The banner lasts 15 minutes and has a 10 minute CD. 5. Jump down in the pit and pull everything from every single house. Once everything is pulled move toward the bridge. This will allow you to gain bonus reputation from these mobs as well. 6. Once everything is cleared, bombs the houses and kill the 1st boss nearby the banner as well.7. Move upwards toward the Durnholde Keep8. Pull everything inside the Durnholde Keep, and run outside in range of the banner and kill them.9. Talk to Thrall and kill the mobs that spawns. These mobs should be in range of the banner regardless of where they spawn.10. The 2nd boss is also in range of the banner, just kill him where he stands.11. Talk to Thrall again, and move towards Tarren Mill. 12. The only group you won't get bonus reputation from, is the group outside the stables. Kill them regardless.13. Once Thrall and you move towards the church, place your banner in the middle of all the houses. At this point, the banner should be off CD!14. Kill everything surrounding the Tarren Mill - there's a few groups patrolling in the back.15. Kill the rest that spawns, and voila!

I hope this helps you :))

Comentado por Opticallusion

It would seem that letting the last boss in Heroic Black Morass kill Medivh no longer lets you keep farming it, since killing one boss locks you to the instance.

Comentado por nirv

I completely disagree with everybody's opinions on what the best strategy for farming rep is. I tried Black Morass farming, and I tried the letting Thrall die farming which people have made guides for on YouTube. Some say the Thrall resetting is the mathematically superior way but I don't think that's the case. I'm thinking of making a video for what I just did to reach exalted, but I could be wrong, so feel free to disprove me.

I set it to Heroic and then just killed all the mobs at Tarren Mill and then Durnholde Keep. With the instance reset limit per hour raised to 10 from 5, this method meant that you'd never reach the maximum because each run took about 7 minutes.

-Used all 3 reputation banners: Estandarte da Colaboração, Estandarte da Unidade, and Estandarte de Batalha da Coordenação (They don't stack. I used all 3 so I'd have one ready to use as often as possible, saving the best one (15%) for Durnholde Keep.)-Reset instance macro: /Run ResetInstances()-Used the help -> Character stuck! -> Teleport to graveyard trick after clearing since that only took 1 minute to get back as opposed to 1:40 if I ran on foot. (Put your hearth in your bank to make this trick work or else you won't be teleported to a graveyard.)-In a group with a one-button disenchant button so I never had to mess with inventory and bag space while looting:/run RollOnLoot(GroupLootFrame1.rollID, 3)/run RollOnLoot(GroupLootFrame2.rollID, 3)/run RollOnLoot(GroupLootFrame3.rollID, 3)/run RollOnLoot(GroupLootFrame4.rollID, 3)/click StaticPopup1Button1-lots of other little tricks I won't type because nobody wants to read a novel.

Here were my results as I was trying different things and eventually settled on the above method:

Some people were saying they get around 7k per hour with their methods but it seems I was making a bit more than that. I'm an Orc so this was without any rep bonus except for the banners. If it is indeed the best method, maybe I'll make a tutorial for people (with commentary of course) that gets straight to the point. No fuss, no muss.

Comentado por Ashirin

6.2 Update on Black Morass:

Crocodiles, Spiders and Panthers no longer give reputation - if they ever gave some...

you will get the following reputation as a "raw" amount. Use a calculator to apply bonuses:normal:50 per trash mob x 15 = 750120 per boss x 3 = 3601110 total

heroic:65 per trash mob x 15 = 975250 per boss x 3 = 7501725 total

you need 7 minutes 20 seconds for a regular farm with one shot gear. This means you kill monsters on sight and you dont have any mechanics drag out the time. It also includes riding in and out of the dungeon.so that is: 9,081 rep per hour on normal and 14,113 rep per hour on heroic BUT the heroic per hour is actually not usable now. You can no longer reset the fight at the last boss. So you can play one heroic ID a day and that is that.

I am going to make a Durnholde run and compare. but honestly I think doing normal runs on Black Morass is the fastest way to revered. And after that you will just have to do the daily port from Dalaran to Caverns of time and do Durnholde Keep and Black Morass until you get the 21,000 down. Which translates to 6 days.

Your brain just has to get over the fact that the waiting in Black Morass IS annoying. But the riding around in Durnholde Keep is probably worse and should result in less XP per hour

Comentado por IzolM4n

Okay,

from an enhancements perspective i found out that Lamaçal Negro is the better option, since we have no aoe that would immediately kill the stacked group of mobs in Antigo Contraforte de Eira dos Montes. What i would do is just, plant the Estandarte de Batalha da Coordenação somewhere in the middle of the 4 rifts and wait for mobs to come out. I should also add that at this time darkmoon was going on so i added another 20% rep bonus with IUPI! (it says its 10% but i guess its a tooltip bug). Over a couple of hours running BM normal i went straight to exalted averaging 1500~1600 per run, a run lasting approx. 7 mins.

Normal BM without buffs:-50 per mob-120 per boss

Normal BM with both buffs:-68/9 per mob-145/6 per boss

So if you like me decide to grind this while darkmoon is up, be sure add the carousel buff to the banner. It sure speeds up the process.

Comentado por negs

I thought I'd like to point out that most of the mobs respawn (like the ones on the bridge when you come up to the Keep itself). There's also plenty of trash mobs inside and upstairs in the Keep and many patrolling around. The pit spectators don't give you rep, though!

Comentado por PumkinKing

Do not kill Dom Ramón if you are farming rep in heroic durnholde. You will be unable to reset the instance if you do.

Comentado por xDUMPWEEDx

This is a really easy faction to farm to Exalted, but may take a week or two. The easiest way is to just run Heroic Black Morass and Heroic Escape from Durnholde once per day. If you want to get a little bit more rep each day just run Normal Black Morass and reset it a few times.

The rewards for being exalted with Keepers of Time aren't great. You get a couple of transmog pieces and a low-res tabard. For someone that is currently neutral with Keepers of Time, I would not recommend putting in the time & effort of getting exalted with this faction.

Comentado por Geor3gy

Just gave this a shot, did the suggested let Thrall die at the bridge and reset.Managed to get to Revered from Honored in an hour.Thrall will be reset 20 times before you can't reset him anymore.

Comentado por pjrulez

Lessons learned: Get DMF WHEE! and take portal to CoT.Order: heroic Escape from Durnholde, heroic Black Morass and 3 more times Black Morass normal for a sum of ~9967 reputation in an hour (human).Do this every day during DMF week. And never do normal Escape from Durnholde. (it's a major waste of time, just sayin')

Details in my comments to Vlad's post.Also, the guy who with strategy to let Thrall die over and over again suggested a much less effective and more peculiar approach than for example simply farming Black Morass on normal difficulty, which nets about 1465 reputation (+20%) per 8-10 minutes, which easily nets above 8000 reputation an hour.

P.S.: There's Don Carlos walking the path in Escape from Durnholde (you can see him when you enter just don't take a ride with the drake). Kill him for his famous hat.