Good number actually as well. There was speculation he'd only be happy with 2/$28-30M.

And ya, that Rotation is SICK, WICKED and NASTY.

As I keep trying to tell the excuse makers - "wahh! No one will sign in Toronto! Waaah! No one will come to Toronto cause it's Canadian! Waaaah" - if you actually build a good team you can get guys to sign and.... they won't even charge a premium.

I'd wager a hefty sum Dickey says he made the deal at $25 cause he wants to win. Novel idea.

EDIT: Also, this is how you WIN NOW! Not by doing small, isolated deals and trying to nurture young players at the same time. Doesn't work. You are either rebuilding or you go for it. Colangelo, take notes....

The two teams came to terms over the weekend, but the deal was contingent on the Blue Jays and Dickey being able to agree to an extension. That happened Monday morning, when Toronto tore up the final year of Dickey's contract and signed him to a three-year contract valued at $29 million plus a club option worth $12 million in 2016.

WOW ... Well he was set to make $5M this year, but they "tore up the final year of his deal, and signed him to a 3-year $29M" ... If I understand everything correctly, which I think I do, thats actually LESS than the reported $25M .. technically. The $25M plus the $5M he's set to make would earn him $30M over 3 years.
AA you've done it again.

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"That was Nasty right? Cocked that Joint back and banged on 'em." -James Johnson

Yeah I think it's a good deal for AA but I don't necessarily think he should make the money Halladay makes because he's older and he's only had 3 good years so far, I'm not saying he won't keep it up but I think that's a pretty good reason not to give him 15M+ a year which is why I think he accepted less.

Yeah I think it's a good deal for AA but I don't necessarily think he should make the money Halladay makes because he's older and he's only had 3 good years so far, I'm not saying he won't keep it up but I think that's a pretty good reason not to give him 15M+ a year which is why I think he accepted less.

I guess he's really content with just wanting to win because even though he is a knuckle baller. This three year deal could be his swan song.

So funny how ESPN is now spinning the trade as a "No-Brainer" for the Mets.

Experts widely label the trade a no-brainer for Alderson -- similar to Carlos Beltran for right-hander Zack Wheeler in July 2011. The Mets likely are to finish in fourth or fifth place with or without Dickey next season. And they obtained d'Arnaud and the Class A right-hander Syndergaard -- both highly regarded prospects, whom the organization will control for six full years apiece in the majors.

"If you polled the 30 current GMs and asked them if they would trade Carlos Beltran and R.A. Dickey for the three players the Mets received, it's safe to say all 30 would agree with the Mets' strategy," an NL executive said.Source

And yes .. they compare D'Arnaud to Piazza in this article.
Guess New York fans need to be happy about it before anyone else can be.

"That was Nasty right? Cocked that Joint back and banged on 'em." -James Johnson

I disagree. It's not every day that you get to trade for a Cy Young winner in the MLB, especially one making relatively little like Dickey. AA had his window of opportunity and he took advantage of it, even if he did overpay a little.

This guy is a class act. I wish more athletes reacted as normal human beings would:"I think it's important for me to grieve leaving New York," he said Tuesday. "I had a proverbial home there. I had a home among fans. I had a home in an organization. I had a lot of success there, and I think it's important for me to be sad about that for a moment before I move on to the next feeling."

Or on how he felt regret over discussing the situation with the media:"I must admit to you and repent the timing because I feel badly about using a time such as that to become emotional, and I want to apologize for that because that wasn't the venue necessarily to do that," he said.

"That was Nasty right? Cocked that Joint back and banged on 'em." -James Johnson

The usually frugal Alex allowed himself to get ripped off 'cause it was worth it. An absolute no-brainer for the Mets.

Disagree. Not sure how you figure getting the reigning Cy Young winner for a Prospect is "ripped off".
Proven talent over Unproven talent any day of the week for me. Not to mention D'Arnauds recent Injuries to his knees. For a catcher that could be devestating.

"That was Nasty right? Cocked that Joint back and banged on 'em." -James Johnson

Disagree. Not sure how you figure getting the reigning Cy Young winner for a Prospect is "ripped off".

Hickey for a prospect, even though he's the top catching prospect is not a rip-off. Hickey for two prospects, both very good ones is a rip-off. Don't get me wrong cause I agree with the trade. AA who I admire a lot, always deals for good value while being very careful about what he gives up. He didn't mind giving up more than he'd normally give up 'cause he see's good reason for it which of course is a possible championship. IMO.

The guy just won the Cy fucking Young! His market value is 15 million a fucking year, we got him for far less.

How the fuck you figure that giving up two minor-leaguers for the cy young winner is getting ripped off is beyond.

You know what youre getting with Dickey and youre getting it immediately. You dont know what youre getting from these prospects and it's likely going to be shit for half the season, if not longer.

Plus, the chances of the prospects being hurt is higher than a veteran, who knows how to maintain from the wear n tear of the season.

Also, there is nowhere to play them. The syndergaard guy isnt going to be on the mound much and D'Arnaud would not be catching over Arencibia and Thole. He'd be battling for the backup 1st basemen.

The likeliness of them seeing significant time was slim. They had to be moved. It's unfair to keep them.

Plus,when you make a move like the miami trade. There is no looking back, you can't hesitate to pull the trigger on a deal that helps your team in the now. No prospect is off limits,no up and comer is off limits.

If you see a trade that can significantly improve your team, there can be no hesitation on your part.

The guy just won the Cy fucking Young! His market value is 15 million a fucking year, we got him for far less.

How the fuck you figure that giving up two minor-leaguers for the cy young winner is getting ripped off is beyond.

You know what youre getting with Dickey and youre getting it immediately. You dont know what youre getting from these prospects and it's likely going to be shit for half the season, if not longer.

Plus, the chances of the prospects being hurt is higher than a veteran, who knows how to maintain from the wear n tear of the season.

Also, there is nowhere to play them. The syndergaard guy isnt going to be on the mound much and D'Arnaud would not be catching over Arencibia and Thole. He'd be battling for the backup 1st basemen.

The likeliness of them seeing significant time was slim. They had to be moved. It's unfair to keep them.

Plus,when you make a move like the miami trade. There is no looking back, you can't hesitate to pull the trigger on a deal that helps your team in the now. No prospect is off limits,no up and comer is off limits.

If you see a trade that can significantly improve your team, there can be no hesitation on your part.

No guts, no glory!

I'll sign off on this. Completely agree.
I may not have used the F-word quite so enthusiastically, but I can't disagree with a single word in this.

"That was Nasty right? Cocked that Joint back and banged on 'em." -James Johnson

I like that line. If that was Alex' position, sure I agree. I just call it a 'gamble that was worth taking'.

The reason I call it a rip-off is 'cause under normal circumstances Travis D'Anaud and N Syndergaard for R A Dickey is a trade that a GM would not even consider leave alone make. For example, around this time last year AA would not have even considered making this trade even if Dickey was a Cy Young winner(hypothetically). This year though and FOR GOOD REASON, he sees Dickey as the missing piece who can help take us over the hump, so to speak.

I like that line. If that was Alex' position, sure I agree. I just call it a 'gamble that was worth taking'.

The reason I call it a rip-off is 'cause under normal circumstances Travis D'Anaud and N Syndergaard for R A Dickey is a trade that a GM would not even consider leave alone make. For example, around this time last year AA would not have even considered making this trade even if Dickey was a Cy Young winner(hypothetically). This year though and FOR GOOD REASON, he sees Dickey as the missing piece who can help take us over the hump, so to speak.

In isolation, the Dickey deal would not have happened. It looks like KC trading for Shields.

In the Jays case, however, it makes sense cause Dickey (even a Dickey that regresses) is worth 3-4 wins and those 3-4 wins take a 90-win team to 93-94, which probably gets you in the playoffs. If you get Cy Young Dickey, you can add a couple more wins.

I think we are so used to seeing AA get great value in his deals (e.g. the Marlins trade), that when he has to give up equal value, we are all stunned.