Seeker wrote:i wonder what is going to happen when people can't just avoid him anymore becuase WT3 is back and they can't just pass it on Tru?

Then they're just gonna run the ball all over us, based on the last few games.

let's hope Russell runs the score up early.

Don't be silly, run it all over us? We gave up less than 90 yards to the Jet's on Sunday, how is that horrible? Adrian Peterson is the best back in the league, we won't face another back like him all year.

Seeker wrote:i wonder what is going to happen when people can't just avoid him anymore becuase WT3 is back and they can't just pass it on Tru?

Someone please show me a stat that shows how horribly Tru is playing

Agreed.

Tru is our 3rd CB which means he's rotating between the slot, 1st or 2nd TE, RB/FB, or a WR in motion. Trufant is still a solid tackler and while he's far from his Pro-Bowl peak, he's hardly the problem with our secondary.

Seeker wrote:i wonder what is going to happen when people can't just avoid him anymore becuase WT3 is back and they can't just pass it on Tru?

Someone please show me a stat that shows how horribly Tru is playing

Agreed.

Tru is our 3rd CB which means he's rotating between the slot, 1st or 2nd TE, RB/FB, or a WR in motion. Trufant is still a solid tackler and while he's far from his Pro-Bowl peak, he's hardly the problem with our secondary.

I'd say overall our secondary dosn't have a problem but if you had to point to a weakness it's got to be Tru, he is just not as qucik as he use to be and he doesn't look as comfortable in the slot but I'm sure his leadership is valuable and makes up for his lack of speed/quickness with experience

Seeker wrote:i wonder what is going to happen when people can't just avoid him anymore becuase WT3 is back and they can't just pass it on Tru?

Someone please show me a stat that shows how horribly Tru is playing

Agreed.

Tru is our 3rd CB which means he's rotating between the slot, 1st or 2nd TE, RB/FB, or a WR in motion. Trufant is still a solid tackler and while he's far from his Pro-Bowl peak, he's hardly the problem with our secondary.

Have you all forgotten our terrible 3rd-down rate on Defense? They've played great the past few games but to say that it wasn't a problem when teams like Detroit were converting their 3rd and Longs all day was a problem.

sammyc521 wrote:Have you all forgotten our terrible 3rd-down rate on Defense? They've played great the past few games but to say that it wasn't a problem when teams like Detroit were converting their 3rd and Longs all day was a problem.

I hope the pro-bowl voters get the memo. I realize that it's easy to be overlooked up here, but jeez. Sherman isn't just one of the very best corners in the league- he's trolling Tom Brady and poking fun at Calvin Johnson. He's getting interviews left and right. And yet Tony Cornheiser said "who?" regarding Sherman a few weeks ago. And this is after he was the one member of our secondary not to make the pro-bowl last year despite beng the best member of it. Frankly, I'm amazed how under the radar Sherman has remained.

So good for Jaws. He may seem like an idiot to some (my brother hates him), but at least he isn't blind to Sherman's productivity.

sammyc521 wrote:Have you all forgotten our terrible 3rd-down rate on Defense? They've played great the past few games but to say that it wasn't a problem when teams like Detroit were converting their 3rd and Longs all day was a problem.

Well, it might have been a fixable problem, and Pete's a fixer. Let's see how things look the rest of the way.

sammyc521 wrote:Have you all forgotten our terrible 3rd-down rate on Defense? They've played great the past few games but to say that it wasn't a problem when teams like Detroit were converting their 3rd and Longs all day was a problem.

Jason Jones being out was a big reason we were having problems with our D-line during that period.Scruggs as well.

I hope Thurmond plays the nickel CB against Miami. Bess vs. Trufant looks like a bad matchup for us on the inside. We don't know how Thurmond's agility and game speed/conditioning will be coming off of all of his leg injuries, however.

Sherman was drafted in 2011, so doesn't that mean he falls under the new rookie CBA signed in 2011?

Either way, Schneider and Carroll have preached cap management so they could have a healthy balance sheet in order to re-sign players when it's time. At least that's what was explained to us when they let Winslow Jr. go, too much of a cap hit.

Tru is our 3rd CB which means he's rotating between the slot, 1st or 2nd TE, RB/FB, or a WR in motion. Trufant is still a solid tackler and while he's far from his Pro-Bowl peak, he's hardly the problem with our secondary.[/quote]

he's the weakest link in our secondary , period... and yes i must know of these secondary problems as well... as far as the short passes , and third downs, you can credit those to the defensive schemes and our linebackers who are not good in coverage, not the secondary... i'll take thurmond as the nickle over trufant every day fo the week, and twice on sunday.