If this is your first visit, be sure to
check out the FAQ by clicking the
link above. You may have to register
before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages,
select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Why are we trying to compare players that have played and completed their entire careers with guys like Mike Adams who is one year removed from college?

People will say whatever they like, construe the argument in a fashion to suit their argument, and label it the truth.

Is Pouncey a better OC than Dawson? Is Cortez Allen better than Rod Woodson? Is DeCastro better than Faneca? Some of the comparisons given are seasoned vets vs 1st year NFL players.

Could Tomlin draft better? Sure. But that same argument must be levelled at Cowher too. Cowher also had several years with Tom Donahue assisting in the personnel decisions before Colbert came on. How much influence did Donahue have over some of Cowhers great players?

Why does Cowher and Tomlin take all the heat or praise for players? I thought head coaches worked with the rest of the FO to pick/add players. General mangers like Donahoe and Colbert have how much say Vs the head coach? Some of these players are I feel Colbert players Vs Colbert players. I understand the Coach has input. But how much I question. Also the cap does come into effect with all these players from differnt years some how.

Valid and has always been a bit of unkown. It's always been said that Cowher had or wanted quite a bit of 'say' in the draft. Tomlin is an influential personality and I think he's always had more say than what most people think even in his first draft. What I don't get is that most blame Cowher for his picks and don't praise him for his ability to build teams and Tomlin gets the credit for the good picks and it's Colbert's fault for the bad picks. Slim to none objective analysis.

and haggans was average at best on the other side. we even saw james play in his spot and do well when he was hurt, so im not buying that excuse. why wasnt he starting in place of clark

I completely agree. I don't think you saw my previous post. I never got that either. Haggans was decent but I thought it was Harrison time at that point. I would have liked to see Harrison / Porter for a year or two.

He's almost as bad as Lloyddroid. I wouldn't continue to waste your time, just as I'm not going to bother responding to his post to me. When people have their mind made up about someone or some thing and are too ignorant to admit they're making a ridiculous string of arguments it's not worth your time, my time or anyone elses time. We have some truly ridiculous people on this message board. I'm just glad for the most part they are few and far between.

I was coming to the "why waste my time" conclusion... I know better... it's actually why i dissappear for long spells at a time off the msg boards -- it's often when ignorance dominates the posts...