I want to state this again. I also want to share something that I saw on TV that let's just sat chapped my hide. I saw a commercial for I Robot. First they show a cop throwing the robot into a warehouse that you assume has bad guys in it or a bomb. Then they show a soldier using one to approach a car that one can assume has an IED it it. Then finally they show some lady in a luxury apartment sipping her coffee while the robot cleans her floor.

Now who in there right mind thought it was a good idea to group brave police officers in a crisis situation, our heroic soldiers in a life or death situation and some rich lady who is to lazy to clean her own damn floors. Good job i robot I for one will continue to not make use of your services.

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$!&@ man, at 195 I couldn't run worth a shi+ ... But I'm only 5'8". My goal is to be like 180 with 9-10% bf when I go to ALO selection. Enough weight that I won't put too much stress on joints rucking but not too much.

Any suggestions are welcomed!

I can't believe that God put us on this earth to be ordinary.- Lou Holtz

$!&@ man, at 195 I couldn't run worth a shi+ ... But I'm only 5'8". My goal is to be like 180 with 9-10% bf when I go to ALO selection. Enough weight that I won't put too much stress on joints rucking but not too much.

Any suggestions are welcomed!

Rucking at 200 for me was easier than when I was 180. I'm 68" as well brother. To each their own I suppose...

Rucking at 200 for me was easier than when I was 180. I'm 68" as well brother. To each their own I suppose...

I guess my body wasn't used to 195.. I got to 188 naturally and fairly lean then used havoc/katanadrol and hit 195 on PH. I think my sweet spot is about 180-185. I'm a little light now. Actually going to get a hormone panels done bc I don't think i ever came back fully from that PH cycle. But that's another story in itself.

My worries with selection are the long runs followed by cals. I can ruck alright...in a weird way I actually enjoy long rucks to clear my mind--even with 40 lbs in my pack-- but I have never been a distance runner and that's why 195 was rough for me.

Do you feel like the added body weight kept you more stable? Why was it easier for you? How much of that 20lb gain do you think was muscle? J/w.

Thanks for the help guys. The threads derailed but eh, the promo is over anyways right?

I can't believe that God put us on this earth to be ordinary.- Lou Holtz

I guess my body wasn't used to 195.. I got to 188 naturally and fairly lean then used havoc/katanadrol and hit 195 on PH. I think my sweet spot is about 180-185. I'm a little light now. Actually going to get a hormone panels done bc I don't think i ever came back fully from that PH cycle. But that's another story in itself.

My worries with selection are the long runs followed by cals. I can ruck alright...in a weird way I actually enjoy long rucks to clear my mind--even with 40 lbs in my pack-- but I have never been a distance runner and that's why 195 was rough for me.

Do you feel like the added body weight kept you more stable? Why was it easier for you? How much of that 20lb gain do you think was muscle? J/w.

Thanks for the help guys. The threads derailed but eh, the promo is over anyways right?

Yeah the promo is long gone. As for myself being heavier and stronger just made the weight seem negligible. Now that also depends on if its weight from natural gains or from a PH cycle. When I was ~200 all natural I could handle the range runs and plain old humping all day long. When I'm at 200 on cycle the humps are fine but the runs are killer, more like a jog, say 9-10 minute miles with lower back pumps that would stop a lesser man in his tracks. The times I've trained for distance running I naturally shed to around 175-185. It's all just purpose dependent for me but yeah I way prefer being closer to 200 cuz it seriously makes it feel like I have nothing on my back and I can go for days