Always puzzled me that Samsung (and others) think that they get sales due to to software differentiation. They get sales because they are cool ANDROID phones. The software differentiation costs them a bunch to develop and the majority of users use it once then simply don't care and mostly ignore it. The rest just don't like it. Tizen is as much a waste of time as Touchwiz or whatever it's called. Sure, some hardware features require custom software - but apart from the cameras, all the other rubbish they add is just that - rubbish for the vast majority of users. My next phone will likely be another Samsung becuase I love the screens - but the Google Play edition

I think you are wrong and here is why...nobody LIKES Android, they TOLERATE it. It suffers from slowdowns, you have to reboot it, in a way it reminds me of Win9X in that we all put up with it frankly because the alternatives were worse.

Now if someone can come up with a mobile OS that is sleek, runs great on even entry smartphones, and more importantly give us the ease of use and reliability that our desktops give us now? It could really take off.

Smartphones really are still in their infancy and there is still a LOT of room for improvement. This is coming from somebody with an Android phone (in fact several in the family) but I'd be happy to switch to a better OS when one comes along....as long as it isn't an iPhone, I really don't like Apple's "We know better than you" attitude.

I think you are wrong and here is why...nobody LIKES Android, they TOLERATE it. It suffers from slowdowns, you have to reboot it, in a way it reminds me of Win9X in that we all put up with it frankly because the alternatives were worse.

That's odd I am pretty sure I actually like Android and not just tolerate it. I have access to 3 Android devices two of which are mine and I haven't noticed slow downs or had the need to reboot.

Maybe you just buy cheap and crappy android devices? If you are not willing to spend money on decent hardware than don't complain about the OS.

I think you are wrong and here is why...nobody LIKES Android, they TOLERATE it. It suffers from slowdowns, you have to reboot it, in a way it reminds me of Win9X in that we all put up with it frankly because the alternatives were worse.

Get an iPhone then.

Now if someone can come up with a mobile OS that is sleek, runs great on even entry smartphones, and more importantly give us the ease of use and reliability that our desktops give us now? It could really take off.

Try AOSP, or the Google Play edition, or CyanogenMod, or of course, just get an iPhone.

I'd be happy to switch to a better OS when one comes along....as long as it isn't an iPhone, I really don't like Apple's "We know better than you" attitude.

I don't understand this "better than you" attitude. Are you talking about the hipster "i had an iPhone before it was cool" sort of "better than you", or the "$600 for a mid-range phone performance-wise" sort of "better than you"

To me, you look like a stereotypical Apple-basher. There's nothing wrong with bashing Apple, and i've done it a lot,, but IMHO Apple's software and hardware offerings are superior to any other manufacturers offerings available today.

you can make 100% android compatible distro from tizen, you can't make half assed linux distro out of android.

maybe i'm wrong here, but...
- binder is in kernel, no need to extra work
- you could make surface flinger as wayland compositor
- slapping dalvik on it should not be a problem either since it was already done few times now
- multi seat support already allows you to do different sessions at the same time
- adjust session loading as part of systemd

and yeah, one of posts before me said it really awesome with android not being liked, but rather tolerated.

you would get exact same android, just without crippling other ecosystem

I feel like I "tolerate" Windows more than i like it nowadays. Back in the 90's, it felt rad and hip, but nowadays it feels old, dated and clunky. I'm not saying it is, but the UI feel comes off that way. It just seems like if you peeled of the Luna/Aero/Windows8ExperienceMetroThemeThing, Windows would still look and feel identical to Windows 95.

You don't need surface flinger to run Android applications. Sailfish ships Alien Dalvik which works with Wayland. As you said, one can enable Android runtime in a normal distro, but to turn Android into normal glibc Linux would be hard. Android is crippled by design.

Tolerating Android now is necessary only because of the drivers lock-in. But there are normal Linux mobile distros around.