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Re: Should lance calm down with the theatrics?

If it was too much, then don't you think that Vogel, Bird, and his highly respected teammates would have told him to tone it down by now? They clearly haven't. They understand that's part of who Born Ready is. He's proven so far that he can do it without taking it too far. The team understands that he's just a better player when he does that kind of stuff, just like Reggie as Ace mentioned above. He's helping the Pacers win a lot of games, so let him continue to do the things that fuel him.

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Personally i love it. You can tell it gives him a ton of confidence. But Vogel should probably hammer it down a bit, just to show the other players that nobody is getting any special treatment, and that its not okay to act like a knucklehead on the reg.

Re: Should lance calm down with the theatrics?

If it was too much, then don't you think that Vogel, Bird, and his highly respected teammates would have told him to tone it down by now? They clearly haven't. They understand that's part of who Born Ready is. He's proven so far that he can do it without taking it too far. The team understands that he's just a better player when he does that kind of stuff, just like Reggie as Ace mentioned above. He's helping the Pacers win a lot of games, so let him continue to do the things that fuel him.

I could have sworn a read a post game comment from Frank where he didn't come right out and say he didn't like it, but more that we could do without some of it. Or maybe he was talking more about getting back on defense.

I would guess Frank would rather Lance not.

Bird stopped Mark Jackson from doing his shimmy, so I would guess he'd rather lance stop also.

Re: Should lance calm down with the theatrics?

in one of the last interviews with Bird he says Lance should drop it pretty quick and Vogel has indeed said that he does not "appreciate" it and he don't want to see it anymore, he did pipe down but last night was a resurrection

i prefer him to leave the antics out of it, he WILL run into a player who will take a 3 game suspension toi drive the message home and we may be without him for a while, no one likes to be shown up that way, certainly not ball players who's rep is their income.

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Re: Should lance calm down with the theatrics?

While we are all watching the Lance Show, Lance is too...starring, directing and watching with glee. It's part of the total package. I'd be afraid to make him stop for fear of losing the sheer brilliance of the game.

If you fear failure, you may not accomplish much. Perennial assist leader John Stockton's turnover numbers were consistently higher than Lance's, at this point.

Lance said the dance was taught to him and his whole family by his grandmother. He is obviously not (in his mind) air humping. What we see, on the other hand, gets filtered through our brains. Middle America may not be ready for grandma's dance. Elvis had the same problem.

Re: Should lance calm down with the theatrics?

Lance said the dance was taught to him and his whole family by his grandmother. He is obviously not (in his mind) air humping. What we see, on the other hand, gets filtered through our brains. Middle America may not be ready for grandma's dance. Elvis had the same problem.

Um... yeah, right. I have a funny feeling he did it with a little more ... enthusiasm

BillS

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...

Re: Should lance calm down with the theatrics?

I like the swagger. This team is badass and he lets everyone know it. I thought the dougie tease last night was hilarious. He was about to bust out some serious dance moves after that and 1 and he appeared to change his mind. Maybe he thought that's just a bit too much.

Re: Should lance calm down with the theatrics?

My concern is that some of the theatrics can lead to bad ballplaying. I've commented about the one-handed ball fakes, but the no-look passes often don't take into account changes in coverage, the driving into 3 guys at the rim and leaping to make a flashy pass could get him into a lot of trouble (as we've seen from other ballhandlers).

Re: Should lance calm down with the theatrics?

I like that he's having fun and that it gets the team hyped, but if there's one thing I'm afraid of it's Lance's theatrics getting some superstar pissed and he ends up dropping 35 in the second half and winning the game for the opposition. Other than that, I love it.

Re: Should lance calm down with the theatrics?

A couple things came to mind for me. First off, some of the plays I almost want to fail in the regular season so he doesn't try them in the playoffs, mainly the one where he was dribbling a ton and threw the crazy pass to George for a dunk. It's not a play you can use in the playoffs that's an easy turnover and fast break against the Heat. Second thing is, the Pacers are in the perfect situation for Lance; he's kind of the knucklehead on the team, the on the edge of crazy guy, it's ok and almost needed to have 1 of those guys, you can't have more than 1 though, we all know that from the Brawl.

Lance is a little crazy with the dribbling sometimes when it isn't necessary but I guess that's a part of Lance when he's on. I could see post-all star break the refs calling traveling or carrying calls on Lance if he continues some of the stuff.

"It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."

Re: Should lance calm down with the theatrics?

I am one of the minority that doesn't like the theatrics....I understand enthusiasm when Lance completes a play and he does whatever he does....what I don't like is the fancy and flashly stuff that BillS highlighted.

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Re: Should lance calm down with the theatrics?

I wish I had time to go through a game film, pull out all the things that make me crazy when Lance does them even when they work, and post the resulting video to a thread asking people to help me get over them making me crazy (or else help me articulate why they aren't necessarily the right thing to do). I admit I am a fundamental play-within-yourself-and-the-team typical old-school Indiana basketball fan, and I need to understand if these things make me nuts just because they are flashy and the exact opposite of old-school rather than breaking fundamentals, or if I am correct in thinking they create flaws.

BillS

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...

Re: Should lance calm down with the theatrics?

said this before and gonna say it again. i don't like that kind of behaviour on other teams, don't like it on mine either.

stay classy when you lose. stay classy when you win. this is my opinion.

and from a player's point of view you are playing for a contender now and clearly enjoying it. this is nba. you can be on one of those awful teams may be just in a couple of years. i doubt he would be fine with it if someone from the winning team disrespect him like that.

Re: Should lance calm down with the theatrics?

I wish I had time to go through a game film, pull out all the things that make me crazy when Lance does them even when they work, and post the resulting video to a thread asking people to help me get over them making me crazy (or else help me articulate why they aren't necessarily the right thing to do). I admit I am a fundamental play-within-yourself-and-the-team typical old-school Indiana basketball fan, and I need to understand if these things make me nuts just because they are flashy and the exact opposite of old-school rather than breaking fundamentals, or if I am correct in thinking they create flaws.

Conan is sitting here with me right now, and he approves of the Lance Dance. He says the lamentation of the women should come from the enemy's baggage train, not our own.

On a more serious note, what did you think of the 'Showtime Lakers', Bill?