True, but that doesn't change the fact that Ubaldo gave up a scorched triple and a double and also walked a guy.

He has to settle down and limit the damage.

I still have no idea how that play with Victor wasn't ruled an error..... the ball hit Santana in the glove and he dropped it.... how do you call that a hit?!

the scorer thought it was out of his reach and thus there was nothing Santana could've done

But it would've been within his reach if he stretched to his right instead of stretching straight towards Asdrubal. First basemen should wait until the throw is almost at them to stretch so they know which way to reach. Santana doesn't understand that, apparently. He reached way too early and couldn't adjust when the throw wasn't right at him.

British_Pharaoh wrote:Best thing about this is getting into that already over worked bullpen.

From the Tigers perspective, that probably doesn't bother them that much since they know they're not going to need a bullpen tomorrow!

I don't know it's usualy feast or famine for us when we face Verlander (11-11 with an ERA near 5 in his career vs Cleveland.) We have mixed success against him. We either get 2 hit or we smack him around like a piñata

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British_Pharaoh wrote:Best thing about this is getting into that already over worked bullpen.

From the Tigers perspective, that probably doesn't bother them that much since they know they're not going to need a bullpen tomorrow!

I don't know it's usualy feast or famine for us when we face Verlander (11-11 with an ERA near 5 in his career vs Cleveland.) We have mixed success against him. We either get 2 hit or we smack him around like a piñata

I haven't looked up the stats but, I'd hazard a guess that if you broke it down into his last 10 starts Vs the Tribe and all the starts before that, they'd look very different.

Bury them tonight. Create a buzz around tomorrow's game. This group of youngsters is suddenly playing with confidence. Reminds me of that burgeoning 2004 team when they made that mid-summer run. Same sort of composition to this roster as that club. But thos team has a tandem of FOR starters to go with it.

British_Pharaoh wrote:Best thing about this is getting into that already over worked bullpen.

From the Tigers perspective, that probably doesn't bother them that much since they know they're not going to need a bullpen tomorrow!

I don't know it's usualy feast or famine for us when we face Verlander (11-11 with an ERA near 5 in his career vs Cleveland.) We have mixed success against him. We either get 2 hit or we smack him around like a piñata

I haven't looked up the stats but, I'd hazard a guess that if you broke it down into his last 10 starts Vs the Tribe and all the starts before that, they'd look very different.

He's dominated us the last few years.

Much needed quick inning for Ubaldo!

Even if you just look at the last 3 seasons Verlander has a 4.19ERA against Cleveland which is the second highest ERA against AL opposition for him and he is just 7-6 in that time frame. He also has trouble at The Jake (4.89ERA) where he is 3-4 since 2008.

However he is having a superhuman season.

"There is but one thing of real value: to cultivate truth and justice and to live without anger in the midst of lying and unjust men"

British_Pharaoh wrote:Best thing about this is getting into that already over worked bullpen.

From the Tigers perspective, that probably doesn't bother them that much since they know they're not going to need a bullpen tomorrow!

I don't know it's usualy feast or famine for us when we face Verlander (11-11 with an ERA near 5 in his career vs Cleveland.) We have mixed success against him. We either get 2 hit or we smack him around like a piñata

I haven't looked up the stats but, I'd hazard a guess that if you broke it down into his last 10 starts Vs the Tribe and all the starts before that, they'd look very different.

British_Pharaoh wrote:Best thing about this is getting into that already over worked bullpen.

From the Tigers perspective, that probably doesn't bother them that much since they know they're not going to need a bullpen tomorrow!

I don't know it's usualy feast or famine for us when we face Verlander (11-11 with an ERA near 5 in his career vs Cleveland.) We have mixed success against him. We either get 2 hit or we smack him around like a piñata

I haven't looked up the stats but, I'd hazard a guess that if you broke it down into his last 10 starts Vs the Tribe and all the starts before that, they'd look very different.

He's dominated us the last few years.

Much needed quick inning for Ubaldo!

Just looked it up.

In Verlanders last 10 starts Vs the Indians: -

7-1, 71IP, 47H, 20R/ER, 26BB, 92K, 2.54ERA

And this as well.

"There is but one thing of real value: to cultivate truth and justice and to live without anger in the midst of lying and unjust men"