With absolutely no disrespect intended to the clans named below, I find it absolutely ridiculous that the entry rules for the Newcomers Cup have been relaxed so that old and experienced clans such as: VDLL, TNC, TFFS, The Legion etc etc are now eligible.

Imho entry should be restricted to clans who are less than a year old - Period.

The goal of the competition posted in Benga's opening post says:This Cup's purpose is to establish new and lower ranked clans,give them a chance to win something and gather valuable experienceas a base for further growth and rise in ranks.

Well will someone tell me what chance to clans like: Random Heroes, The Ultim8tes, RotS, NBK, Team Fiso have against the clans listed in my previous post.

I don't dissagree with your statement Keefie. I just ment I dont think theres enough new clans entering to make up the numbers for a tourney. Plus Opti is a new clan and those guys would have a hard time against the likes of them. I guess there will always be a grey area..

If you look at it from a slightly different point of view this is the only tourney i'm aware of where these sorts of new clans can get involved and not play the likes of Empire/pack/IA etc etc. I know there are some good clans in here but i guess you have to lose a few to better opposition before you get better yourself. I think you stand a better chance of learning something playing clans in the bottom half of the rankings than losing 38-3 at the hands of KORT.

Oh I knew we were in, I wouldn't miss it for the world. Maybe it is the name that needs changing. Afterall exactly how long have VDLL been around Here's a picture of them at their very first planning meeting'

well benga,maybe you can split bracket, where in one side of bracket play experience teams,and in other side of bracket play new clans, then you will have reserved place in final for less experience team. In this way, new clans will play against new clans,and experience clans will play against same quality clans.

qwert wrote:well benga,maybe you can split bracket, where in one side of bracket play experience teams,and in other side of bracket play new clans, then you will have reserved place in final for less experience team. In this way, new clans will play against new clans,and experience clans will play against same quality clans.

I thought of it too, but how would that look like, 6 old clans and 3 new...

qwert wrote:well benga,maybe you can split bracket, where in one side of bracket play experience teams,and in other side of bracket play new clans, then you will have reserved place in final for less experience team. In this way, new clans will play against new clans,and experience clans will play against same quality clans.

I thought of it too, but how would that look like, 6 old clans and 3 new...

I want to winner win that 3 wars

Take ranking and best 4 of old put in one side of bracket and 2 worst ranked put with 3 new in other side of ranking.

If I was just to organize a pure Newcomers Cup, every clan would get only one time to play in it.

There's no more newcomer anything in most of those clans.

Also I would have to ban any clan that was started by experienced players or former clan leaders.

I had to draw the line somewhere and this is best I could come up.

Also during the whole time I also invited all of those clans and only those that really wanted to participate truly did so, others were not interested.

And as a last thing, I am trying to give birth here to some new clan that can do something relevantin the future and not just be a punching bag.

The come out as a winner you must show more then just appear on the battlefield.

hmm,i dont know why you answer to me? I give you only a suggestion how to help new clans ,to have some decent start in some competition.If some of new clan play against Otpisani( who have large number of former Nemesis), then they have chance for disaster result, and this its a way to be punching bag. Look this like Uefa Champion League qualification, they have two road of qualification-road of champion, and road of non champion.Every experience clan will be like i sugested on road of champion,and new clan will be on road of non champion, and in end the winner will play in finale. Then you will give chance to new clans to show something. Its only sugestion , you do how you want

But any new clans will be punching bag against Otpisani in first round, and this will be demoralised for this clan, so i put mine money on Otpisani against any new clan

benga wrote:Yes but you added two clans to non champion route make their way easier to the finals.

I have already made my ruling.

Bracket will be random.

I think having the random bracket is a great idea for this tournament, especially since most of the new clans you would have a tough time placing into the right ranks.

I really think most of the new clans can take each other out pretty easily, and the end be very close in score. I know NC2 had all the wars within like 5 games or so, except for 1 incident was outside that.