Me and STU were observing Lordsting for quite some time I believe he has the demos but I can tell you for certain this guy is either HMing or extremly lucky with his shots... Every time I would watch Lordsting raid a base he would Prenade and Phase every corner that had a person behind it. If not he wouldnt and just continue his way through. And as for Tailygo I repeatedly watched him attempt to shoot me through the middle hill on Broadside, but only as I would start to aproach the top of the hill. I believe these people deserve right and just bans.

"cheaters kicked" demo:LordSting throws grenades at me as I come up the ramp at 22:29There's no way he could have known I was coming.

At 21:33 he runs past the door and starts shooting exactly where I'm standing..BEFORE he even rounds the corner.Shortly afterward he flame-thrower spams exactly where I'm standing... without being able to see me.

Vince, I now see where you questioned me. It happens at 23:26I knew someone was there because I was hearing "hit clicks" from the flame-thrower. You were also a victim of bad timing.

"LordSting HMs" demo:Observing LordSting thru most of it..I say in the chat when I saw suspicious kills.

<!>bo'sdad - May 23, 2011 02:37 AM (GMT)

stu without waiting 1.6 minutes for a down load and for the page to approve me, do you have a differnt posting we could see ? also, without seeing the demo it hard to say, but if you were walking up a ramp, isnt it possible he was just useing his hud to see where you were at ? I would really like to see these demo's but after waiting 5 min I gave up.

I looked at the screens shots, did you guys alert lunatichick to what was going on ? it also looks like vincent was there , I see he may have been afk or obsing someone.

ok, I tried again and got threw this time. please post a vid and not a zip file. upload to youtube or something please

Stank - May 23, 2011 06:44 AM (GMT)

QUOTE (<!>bo'sdad @ May 22 2011, 10:37 PM)

please post a vid and not a zip file.

...

that is all

S']['U - May 23, 2011 07:01 AM (GMT)

QUOTE (Stank @ May 23 2011, 06:44 AM)

QUOTE (<!>bo'sdad @ May 22 2011, 10:37 PM)

please post a vid and not a zip file.

...that is all

Why don't you just shut the fuck up until you actually have something meaningful to say.

THAT IS ALL.

Bongwater - May 23, 2011 09:06 AM (GMT)

id prefer the recordings cause i can turn on and off hm to get the view from both points of view.

the hosting u use sucks ass though.

ill have to check it out when i get home from work.

Shadowraith - May 23, 2011 02:23 PM (GMT)

STU, try megaupload, it's a lot faster. :P

S']['U - May 23, 2011 02:33 PM (GMT)

QUOTE (Shadowraith @ May 23 2011, 02:23 PM)

STU, try megaupload, it's a lot faster. :P

acknowledged.

perrinoia - May 23, 2011 05:53 PM (GMT)

Definitely an HMer... Played against him today... No matter where I was hiding, his grenades were sliding over hilltops and shocking me to death. I was staying out of his team's sensor coverage and he always knew where I was.

<!>bo'sdad - May 24, 2011 04:12 AM (GMT)

isnt it true that there's no definate proof for hm ?

perrinoia - May 24, 2011 04:30 AM (GMT)

Yup... It is my opinion that he is an HMer. I could be wrong.

I apologize for neglecting to add a disclaimer to the first post. I've been trained by numerous English teachers to avoid writing the phrase, "In my opinion..."

S']['U - May 24, 2011 03:18 PM (GMT)

QUOTE (<!>bo'sdad @ May 24 2011, 04:12 AM)

isnt it true that there's no definate proof for hm ?

What would you call this?

Shadowraith - May 24, 2011 03:22 PM (GMT)

one hell of a fart, that's what.

Stank - May 24, 2011 03:27 PM (GMT)

An extremely slow loading GIF.

S']['U - May 24, 2011 03:38 PM (GMT)

QUOTE (Stank @ May 24 2011, 03:27 PM)

An extremely slow loading GIF.

1.25 MegYou fail at teh internets.

Stank - May 24, 2011 03:56 PM (GMT)

QUOTE (S']['U @ May 24 2011, 11:38 AM)

QUOTE (Stank @ May 24 2011, 03:27 PM)

An extremely slow loading GIF.

1.25 MegYou fail at teh internets.

*Nods slowly and sadly*

perrinoia - May 24, 2011 04:20 PM (GMT)

QUOTE (S']['U @ May 24 2011, 03:18 PM)

QUOTE (<!>bo'sdad @ May 24 2011, 04:12 AM)

isnt it true that there's no definate proof for hm ?

What would you call this?

If he's got stereo head phones jacked up really loud, he could have been tracking the foot step sounds.

I'm losing my hearing in my right ear, but I can still hear foot steps around a corner.

I know it's a loose defense at best, but you've gotta admit that there is a fraction of a chance that the player aiming at what he can't see is a coincidence.

Shadowraith - May 24, 2011 05:33 PM (GMT)

no way, he looks up when stu steps up. no way on earth that is not HM. :lol:

[df]Ninetails - May 24, 2011 06:16 PM (GMT)

BugDS is a national security agent, he prolly has agents in the van telling him someone's coming from the front....

<!>bo'sdad - May 24, 2011 07:24 PM (GMT)

QUOTE (perrinoia @ May 24 2011, 10:20 AM)

QUOTE (S')

['U,May 24 2011, 03:18 PM]

QUOTE (<!>bo'sdad @ May 24 2011, 04:12 AM)

isnt it true that there's no definate proof for hm ?

What would you call this?

If he's got stereo head phones jacked up really loud, he could have been tracking the foot step sounds.

I'm losing my hearing in my right ear, but I can still hear foot steps around a corner.

I know it's a loose defense at best, but you've gotta admit that there is a fraction of a chance that the player aiming at what he can't see is a coincidence.

I call that useing your radar , OR, simply useing third person to view the corners.

S']['U - May 24, 2011 11:32 PM (GMT)

QUOTE (<!>bo'sdad @ May 24 2011, 07:24 PM)

I call that useing your radar , OR, simply useing third person to view the corners.

Seriously?? :blink:

[NHOP] lil Tigga - May 24, 2011 11:43 PM (GMT)

QUOTE (<!>bo'sdad @ May 24 2011, 07:24 PM)

QUOTE (perrinoia @ May 24 2011, 10:20 AM)

QUOTE (S')

['U,May 24 2011, 03:18 PM]

QUOTE (<!>bo'sdad @ May 24 2011, 04:12 AM)

isnt it true that there's no definate proof for hm ?

What would you call this?

If he's got stereo head phones jacked up really loud, he could have been tracking the foot step sounds.

I'm losing my hearing in my right ear, but I can still hear foot steps around a corner.

I know it's a loose defense at best, but you've gotta admit that there is a fraction of a chance that the player aiming at what he can't see is a coincidence.

I call that useing your radar , OR, simply useing third person to view the corners.

i doubt that

Stank - May 25, 2011 12:57 AM (GMT)

QUOTE (S']['U @ May 24 2011, 11:18 AM)

QUOTE (<!>bo'sdad @ May 24 2011, 04:12 AM)

isnt it true that there's no definate proof for hm ?

What would you call this?

I would call it the "hokey pokey," more specifically the part where you put your whole self in and put your whole self out.

<!>bo'sdad - May 25, 2011 04:22 AM (GMT)

I was just repeating what I once herd from perra and another player, long ago.

perrinoia - May 25, 2011 05:19 AM (GMT)

Oh yeah, I did say that, didn't I?

I've come up with like 4 or 5 excuses for that guy... hahaha

kang ishigo - May 26, 2011 07:58 AM (GMT)

Never seen Tailygo, but I also consider Lord Sting to be using HM. I also believe {TMX} Th!nk uses the bypass. Today I was smurfing as Riverside (I am at my friend's house and I don't play as well on his computer) and saw Jesus gathering evidence on Lord Sting by observing, but eventually he ended up playing on Sting's team: not to observe, just to play.

JeSuS{OZ} - May 26, 2011 10:20 AM (GMT)

ya i couldnt get anything on him, someone messaged me and told me to get on and i was drunk anyway so i decided wat the hell. But i wish i got video evidence of him. I wasnt demoing at first and everything i needed was there. Once i came back in i couldnt get anything for proof...

perrinoia - May 27, 2011 03:41 AM (GMT)

That guy was sniping the shit out of me earlier today, so I decided to observe him for awhile... I was recording a demo, but definitely didn't see anything substantial.

He appeared to be a complete noob, while I was observing him... In fact, I don't think he got a single kill WHILE I was observing...

I figure that he either sucks balls, and got a lot of lucky shots on me, or he pretends to be a noob when people he's shot past the fog distance switch to observer.

Either way, the map sucked balls, so I decided to quit and play some worms reloaded instead of continuing to play.

Shadowraith - May 27, 2011 03:59 AM (GMT)

I can tell you right now perrin that he 'acts' noob. I was playing him in a spawn map today, and he was not bad, but not good, but he was definitely puttin on a show for you.

perrinoia - May 27, 2011 04:50 AM (GMT)

That's definitely the scenario I was leaning toward. I just posted the other one for the sake of arguing with myself, because I was sick of winning arguments.

JeSuS{OZ} - May 27, 2011 06:42 AM (GMT)

he comes from the SKB ren armor server just a fyi to anyone who doesnt know

EvilTree{OZ} - May 27, 2011 01:20 PM (GMT)

QUOTE (kang ishigo @ May 26 2011, 07:58 AM)

Never seen Tailygo, but I also consider Lord Sting to be using HM. I also believe {TMX} Th!nk uses the bypass. Today I was smurfing as Riverside (I am at my friend's house and I don't play as well on his computer) and saw Jesus gathering evidence on Lord Sting by observing, but eventually he ended up playing on Sting's team: not to observe, just to play.

Think is from TROC where they use the bypass and shit he must not have known u cant come in there with it. i will speak to him

Erowid - July 17, 2011 09:43 PM (GMT)

Rec file of Lordsting HMingwww.tribeslasthope.com/downloads/Lordsting.zipI tried to make a video of it, but there just weren't that many parts to cut out, so I'm just uploading the whole .rec. Watch he recording with HM, it's pretty clear that he sees around corners.

If he's got stereo head phones jacked up really loud, he could have been tracking the foot step sounds.

I'm losing my hearing in my right ear, but I can still hear foot steps around a corner.

I know it's a loose defense at best, but you've gotta admit that there is a fraction of a chance that the player aiming at what he can't see is a coincidence.

I call that useing your radar , OR, simply useing third person to view the corners.

that is most definetly not third view, that is infact blatant hm use. if it where third view you wouldn't be tracking the player dirrectly. infact when ever I use third to view around a corner I have to make sure its the very edge so my armor doesn't clip. he wouldn't have been looking at stu through the wall he would be starting at the wall looking past the edge.

<!>Sabin- - July 22, 2011 02:33 PM (GMT)

Yeah that is pretty obvious. S_hift said it dead on with having to stare at the wall to see around the edge when using third person. I've caught Lord Sting HMing a few times, but I figure it will just be like usual where you guys let shitty players HM.

Stank - July 22, 2011 07:28 PM (GMT)

You have to be 90 degrees or more to a wall to see around the edge, he is acute