So you’d rather have people die because of a complete lack of care, then?

triple on December 16, 2012 at 3:44 AM

When the money runs out completely (after the looters have crushed all free enterprise) everyone will die. Congrats.

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Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:42:57 +0000http://hotair.com/headlines/?p=233043#comment-2218913I’d accept a millionaire’s income tax surcharge if it accompanied real entitlement reform. This of course assumes we keep the sequestration spending cuts or substitute them with other cuts.
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Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:34:48 +0000http://hotair.com/headlines/?p=233043#comment-2218904Good move by Boehner if it’s true. Now all he has to do is hold a press conference stating that Obama rejected a proposal by Republicans to raise tax rates on incomes over $250k.

Everybody complains that the Democrats play chess while the Republicans play checkers. Well, this is what chess looks like.

Right, because forcing everyone’s taxes to go up, automatic cuts to take place, and a recession that will likely follow because you couldn’t protect the tax rates for the wealthy who benefitted the most from the Bush tax cuts and needed it the least, is gonna work out to a great election campaign season for us.

Sounds like solid reasoning to me. /

Genuine on December 16, 2012 at 10:05 AM

You seem to be working from the assumption that the Republicans somehow deserve electoral success. If you really do believe that, make your case; it’s not axiomatic.

I still think we should just go over the cliff. It’s the only way we’re ever going to get any kind of spending cuts out of these jokers. Let the taxes go up on everyone and people can see what it is they voted for. Maybe they’ll get angry enough then to vote them OUT. And marginal tax rates go up and down all the time depending who is in office. It will be painful for awhile, but Obama and the Dems will have to own the sh!tty economy that will come with it, which should bode well for us in 2014 and 2016, and when we finally have some actual conservatives running things again, the marginal rates can be lowered again. That’s a whole lot easier to accomplish than massive spending cuts. If we have a chance to get some here — even if just a little bit — I’d be willing to punt for now on the taxes to do it.
Of course, we’ve seen this deal promised before circa early 1980s. So I don’t know how we ensure they actually make good on the spending cuts.
NoLeftTurn on December 16, 2012 at 9:53 AM

Right, because forcing everyone’s taxes to go up, automatic cuts to take place, and a recession that will likely follow because you couldn’t protect the tax rates for the wealthy who benefitted the most from the Bush tax cuts and needed it the least, is gonna work out to a great election campaign season for us.

I still think we should just go over the cliff. It’s the only way we’re ever going to get any kind of spending cuts out of these jokers. Let the taxes go up on everyone and people can see what it is they voted for. Maybe they’ll get angry enough then to vote them OUT. And marginal tax rates go up and down all the time depending who is in office. It will be painful for awhile, but Obama and the Dems will have to own the sh!tty economy that will come with it, which should bode well for us in 2014 and 2016, and when we finally have some actual conservatives running things again, the marginal rates can be lowered again. That’s a whole lot easier to accomplish than massive spending cuts. If we have a chance to get some here — even if just a little bit — I’d be willing to punt for now on the taxes to do it.

Of course, we’ve seen this deal promised before circa early 1980s. So I don’t know how we ensure they actually make good on the spending cuts.

NoLeftTurn on December 16, 2012 at 9:53 AM

Really simple way to approach this: assume that they won’t make good on the cuts. It goes without saying that we can’t continue down this path forever, but bracing for the worst (LiB, baby!) will at least blunt the worst of the effects. Somewhat. For some people.

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Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:53:13 +0000http://hotair.com/headlines/?p=233043#comment-2218851I still think we should just go over the cliff. It’s the only way we’re ever going to get any kind of spending cuts out of these jokers. Let the taxes go up on everyone and people can see what it is they voted for. Maybe they’ll get angry enough then to vote them OUT. And marginal tax rates go up and down all the time depending who is in office. It will be painful for awhile, but Obama and the Dems will have to own the sh!tty economy that will come with it, which should bode well for us in 2014 and 2016, and when we finally have some actual conservatives running things again, the marginal rates can be lowered again. That’s a whole lot easier to accomplish than massive spending cuts. If we have a chance to get some here — even if just a little bit — I’d be willing to punt for now on the taxes to do it.

Of course, we’ve seen this deal promised before circa early 1980s. So I don’t know how we ensure they actually make good on the spending cuts.

The 2012 election clearly demonstrated a link between the right-wing and corporatism, and that was a major reason why Romney lost to the worst president in history.
FloatingRock on December 16, 2012 at 4:16 AM

Not usually on board for your posts, but that particular thought is one of the most cogent a viable assessments that I’ve come across.