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Car and Driver released their Lightning Lap video for the LL3 class (cars in a $60,000-$119,999 price range) cars. Eight cars competed in this class including the Ford Shelby GT500, Porsche Boxster S, Audi RS5, Audi S6, BMW M5, Porsche 911 Carrera S, BMW M6, and Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Black Series. Some very impressive hardware in this category and the comparison was done at VIR (Virginia International Raceway).

The new F10 M5 did not impress with its driving characteristics. Car and Driver stated the vehicle was very heavy in the 4400 pound range which quickly overwhelmed the tires. The steering was said to be numb but the car did post a respectable laptime which Car and Driver attributed to the power.

The F13 M6 was stated be incredibly similar to the F10 M5 although it is 206 pounds lighter. Car and Driver did not really like the M6 either complaining about the heft and rear end instability.

The Audi RS5 actually outlapped both of the previously mentioned BMW M cars despite the large power disparity. It even improved upon a V8 R8 previously tested.

The full laptime list and video for the LL3 class is below. Congratulations to Mercedes-Benz who had the fastest laptime of the class courtesy of the C63 AMG Black Series Coupe, very impressive:

It really is amazing. Based on everything so far seen, I would have never guessed that the ZL1 would have been at the top. Beating a Black Series? I would have never believed it. Especially after seeing it get smoked in roll racing by tons of other cars less powerful...

Shocking to be honest. Put a lot of cars to shame - although it's hard for each driver to be consistent in every car, so who knows what the true variances are.

The ZL1 is an impressive car, probably best bang for your buck on the market. The regualr SS Camaro was no slouch either. It beat the M5 and M5 as well.

They also won ALMS two years in a row and it takes a $100k+ Mercedes with far more power to beat the M3 around the track because the standard C63 can't...

AMG is getting better but let's not get carried away.

....excuses, excuses let me know when any of the current and available BMW's on the market can touch anything the AMG has out there right now by any guys on this forum. BMW's are untuneable, does any tuner have an M5 that can compete with the latest E63 5.5tt offereing from renntech or Weistec?

AMG keeps introducing cars with greater technology and more HP while BMW waters down their M cars. I can not wait to see a head to head of a 2014 E63 S vs an M5....somebody better give BMW engineers the toll free number to the rape crisis line.

....excuses, excuses let me know when any of the current and available BMW's on the market can touch anything the AMG has out there right now by any guys on this forum. BMW's are untuneable, does any tuner have an M5 that can compete with the latest E63 5.5tt offereing from renntech or Weistec?

AMG keeps introducing cars with greater technology and more HP while BMW waters down their M cars. I can not wait to see a head to head of a 2014 E63 S vs an M5....somebody better give BMW engineers the toll free number to the rape crisis line.

....excuses, excuses let me know when any of the current and available BMW's on the market can touch anything the AMG has out there right now by any guys on this forum. BMW's are untuneable, does any tuner have an M5 that can compete with the latest E63 5.5tt offereing from renntech or Weistec?

AMG keeps introducing cars with greater technology and more HP while BMW waters down their M cars. I can not wait to see a head to head of a 2014 E63 S vs an M5....somebody better give BMW engineers the toll free number to the rape crisis line.

I think BMW has fallen off but the new M5/M6 are superior to cars they actually compete against as in the E63/CLS63. Mercedes doesn't even have an M6 competitor.