No blanket statements on PF - clarification

delphiandomine:A very sensible ruling - and one that I totally support. You'll get the backing from quite a few posters here - we're all sick to death of reading crap like "the racist nation of Israel" and whacko conspiracy theories involving Jews.

I agree with you that most of it is rubbish, but there is apartheid - based on race - in Israel, saying that is not racist.

And that is in essence what the Polonia on this forum are about. Sheer racism, anti-Semitism, anti-European.They have no clue how this country ticks - nor do the mods as I see, because one asks about guidance on Polish history -.

But they are always and ever ready to steer the country (where they do not live, have not lived, will not live and think it should be similar to the Kresy).

Btw: I do not always agree with Jeremy Clarkson, but in his opinion about the Yanks...I have to agree 150%.

It is no good that the Polonians have taken over this forum. Even less so that the admin and mods kowtow to their fanacitism.

I am part of Polonia, whether I like it or not. I live in Toronto. I am not associated with any Polonia organization or Catholic Church. I occasionally take part in some Polonia events - mainly concerts. I have never voted in Poland's election and I will never do it - as long as I stay here. I have a group of good friends - some Polish-Canadian, many more from other ethnic groups, including Canadian-Canadian. I am a professional, and all my friends are professionals too.

I wonder if you include me in your sweeping statement "the Polonians" here. Have you ever read my posts, with the exception of the one where I got fed up by insulting and harassing of NA Polonia as a whole? (Oh, you must have read it since you were congratulating me in one such thread.) Have you ever noticed me posting anything remotely similar to Polonius messages? Did you not notice that few times I was actually jokingly reminding him of similarity of his prose to communist propaganda? Did not you see that many of my messages are just jokes about the political right in Poland? Have you not noticed how many times I agreed with Pawian, Delphi, or both? Do you think I am fanatic and if yes - in what field?

Admin,if some one doesn't like to be called that,then they should let others know.I myself am not offended by that.It's when someone puts dumb in front of it and an s after the k that I find it offensive.

Exactly. It's like going back to kinder garden. If you REACT to what a bully says, you are a victim. Then it's easy to control you. If you don't react or take it as a joke (most 'racist comments' are actually used in a joking way), YOU are in control. It's simple as that. I don't know why most people are so easily manipulated by bullies using meaningless words.

Admin,if some one doesn't like to be called that,then they should let others know.I myself am not offended by that.It's when someone puts dumb in front of it and an s after the k that I find it offensive.

It's exactly the same how many of us find comments like "limeys" offensive - or also "bitter expats". All equally offensive as dumb Polacks.

Admin - there is no joking with some of the racism on this site, particularly the stuff aimed towards Jews.

Sobieski,I'm only speaking to what is said here.I don't know what makes Poland tick.You say that this is what Polonia is about,this is a blanket statement.You will not find any of my posts that fit that criteria or as boletus,just pointed out in his.So you need to refrain from making those kinds of statement about the whole of us.

Delphiandomine,I agree that I have seen some nasty statements about Jews on this site.Those 911 messages that kept coming in one right after the other.I can tell you as soon as we saw them they were removed.I don't refer to British in any other way than that or English..

But you are of Russian decent, are you not? Both of you are obsessed about race and especially Judaism.

That matters because there is official Israel government policy to suppress criticism of Israel, online. This is exactly what the pair of you are doing.

According the Jerusalem Post, Amir Gissin, head of the Public Affairs Department of the Foreign Ministry of Israel, has expressed support for the tool's use. "The Foreign Ministry itself is now pushing the idea, urging supporters of Israel everywhere to become cyberspace soldiers in the new battleground for Israel's image." it reports.[11] Computing website The Register has described use of the software as "highly organised mass manipulation of technologies which are supposed to be democratising" and claimed Megaphone is "effectively a high-tech exercise in ballot-stuffing"[12] The Register also reported that the BBC History magazine website "noticed an upsurge in voting on whether holocaust denial should be a criminal offence in Britain.

Could it be because we have no tolerance for racist fckwits, especially racist fckwit Americans who post all sorts of rubbish about Jews despite Poland having a long and proud association with them? Thankfully, they're a tiny minority - but a very vocal minority.

That matters because there is official Israel government policy to suppress criticism of Israel, online. This is exactly what the pair of you are doing.

especially racist f*ckwit Americans who post all sorts of rubbish about Jews

not true, DDI'm an American and I don't do it and I personally don't know anyone here in the US who does it. Of course, you'll always find some moron that does it but it's not very common, so much is for sure.

Did I put the word 'dumb' near the word 'Polacks'? No. You used it in a derogatory way and that's what we won't tolerate. If you only used the word 'Polack' it would be fine. Same with the word 'Jew' or 'Paki.' What makes the difference is putting dumb words like you did in front of them. Playing games won't rescue you from getting banned.

I'm an American and I don't do it and I personally don't know anyone here in the US who does it. Of course, you'll always find some moron that does it but it's not very common, so much is for sure.

That's why I don't understand why it's allowed here - America is so sensitive about this sort of thing, after all.

Did I put the word 'dumb' near the word 'Polacks'? No. You used it in a derogatory way and that's what we won't tolerate. If you only used the word 'Polack' it would be fine. Same with the word 'Jew' or 'Paki.' What makes the difference is putting dumb words like you did in front of them. Playing games won't rescue you from getting banned.

Admin - would it really be fine to say "Polacks don't have a clue about Poland" in your opinion?

(no - not planning to say it, not since P3 said that enough is enough)

Someone mentioned something like: this forum being run and controlled by and for PolAms or Polonia..

Is this a joke? From the whole time I was hear it seems like its Brits running the show. It seems to be more balanced with the addition of P3. And yes I have even been warned by P3 so im not playing favorites.

Because he likes to frustrate people. That's how he gets his kicks.You are dealing with him for a few months now. Try couple of years and you will be looking for a straitjacket.

Legend,rybnik,I don't want it to be different camps and I shouldn't have to be balancing things out,I don't dislike anyone here,I really don't.I just want the nonsense to stop.I said it in my introductory and I'm saying it now;the only thing I'll come heavily down on are the crude insults and I don't care where the member comes from or who it's directed at.

p3undone, this might be pie-in-the-sky thinking. This is human nature to group yourself with like-minded thinkers. It's a good thing and it's what makes this forum as vibrant and lively as it is. The mud-slinging, on the other hand, it surely can do without because it detracts from the core argument at hand and exasperates its participants.