Interesting read in the DO today regarding Oklahoma Baptists. Is this a little damage control? It seems in order to keep up with the ever changing world and to keep the de-conversion rates down they now pledge to be compassionate towards gays BUT, dammit, they will stand against homosexuality!

First of all...why can't they just choose to NOT stand against homosexuality if they want to be compassionate towards homosexuals? You know... the logical way to think. I think we all know the answer to that.

I find it embarrassing for the religious to try and bend their rules versus just de-converting and burying their archaic morally challenged religion altogether.

(12-11-2014 09:34 AM)dirtstar Wrote: Interesting read in the DO today regarding Oklahoma Baptists. Is this a little damage control? It seems in order to keep up with the ever changing world and to keep the de-conversion rates down they now pledge to be compassionate towards gays BUT, dammit, they will stand against homosexuality!

First of all...why can't they just choose to NOT stand against homosexuality if they want to be compassionate towards homosexuals? You know... the logical way to think. I think we all know the answer to that.

I find it embarrassing for the religious to try and bend their rules versus just de-converting and burying their archaic morally challenged religion altogether.

If homophobia hadn't become socially unpopular, there'd be no way that these Baptists would suddenly, magically be becoming "compassionate".

Honestly, I feel for them. A bit. They've painted themselves into a metaphysical corner. They believe they've got to keep denegrating gays on account of this passage and that passage in the book they've convinced themselves is supernatural and they'll go to hell if they don't obey it, but deep down they're starting to feel kinda not-right about it because they're part of a society that's waking up to how that's a really shitty way to behave towards other human beings. The two positions are contradictory and logically impossible to resolve with each other, but because of their faith they're stuck trying to square the circle, and so out of their own imagined eternal self-interest they have to explain to other people that those other people are broken when it's really them that are broken but they really still love them even when they don't and...

... wait.... out of their own self-interest...

Yeah, okay, I don't feel for them any more.

OMG I just realized! Religion is full of spiritual playas! This is spiritual negging!

1.Slavery
2.Killing people for working on the Sabbath
3.Killing people for using the Lord's name in vain
4.Killing people for adultery
5.Forbidding people from wearing polyester/cotton blends
6.Declaring anyone unclean after sitting in a chair after a menstruating woman
7.Not eating anything "un-kosher"
8.Not having square beards
9.Animal sacrifice
10.Women not teaching men
11.Men with wounded penises or no testicles not being allowed in church
12.Cutting appendages off or plucking them out if they offend you
13.Giving a thief your belongings

And so on, but it is all divinely inspired after all.......

Gods derive their power from post-hoc rationalizations. -The Inquisition

Using the supernatural to explain events in your life is a failure of the intellect to comprehend the world around you. -The Inquisition