RE: Will Trump fire Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller, just because he can?

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IsabellaWrote: (06-13-2017 01:16 AM)

He ManWrote: (06-13-2017 01:00 AM)

Thanks so much for adding that!

You're welcome.

I like how she laid it out, articulate and easy to understand, not that any Trump supporters will read it.

no, we wont. we checked out of anything coming from anti trumpers. period.

the Left isn't Fing around..... we cant either.

they have treated our President with such disrespect, with such anger, and with such a low opinion of the people who voted for him, Trumpers aren't listening anymore....

its a war. Just watch CNN MSNBC WASHPO NYT and the rest of the left. Just look at what the DEMS have been pushing...

Nauhhh....... were not trying to "reach across that isle" and were not listening...f*#k YOU PEOPLE...

need more proof? How about a free play in central park NYC that depicts killing Trump .... its showed every night.... imagine, imagine just for one second.....if that were Obama....or Hillary.....or any other President of the United States.... Trump goes down, there will be hell to pay..... I wouldn't want to be Fareed Zakarhia or Snoop or kathy Griffin or Don Lemon, if that happens...

RE: Will Trump fire Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller, just because he can?

LoP GuestWrote: (06-13-2017 01:47 AM)

Comey admitted in open testimony that he leaked about his meetings with Trump to trigger an independent counsel. Mueller is Comey's butt buddy. It looks to me like there is a conflict of interest.

Trump holds all the cards. You have nothing on him because he did nothing wrong. Furthermore, most people understand all this is being done as payback for losing the election and politicos having their pork feast in DC threatened by this "outsider". They realize that when this is played out, you'll just find another route to "get him". Trump holds all the cards. And what you dont realize is people's capacity to get pissed off because they have had a gut full of this bullshit. You're not going to like what happens when you keep taunting the bull.

right. if trump did nothing wrong then why won't he testify to congress? you're full of sh*t.

RE: Will Trump fire Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller, just because he can?

LoP GuestWrote: (06-13-2017 01:48 AM)

LoP GuestWrote: (06-13-2017 01:47 AM)

Comey admitted in open testimony that he leaked about his meetings with Trump to trigger an independent counsel. Mueller is Comey's butt buddy. It looks to me like there is a conflict of interest.

Trump holds all the cards. You have nothing on him because he did nothing wrong. Furthermore, most people understand all this is being done as payback for losing the election and politicos having their pork feast in DC threatened by this "outsider". They realize that when this is played out, you'll just find another route to "get him". Trump holds all the cards. And what you dont realize is people's capacity to get pissed off because they have had a gut full of this bullshit. You're not going to like what happens when you keep taunting the bull.

right. if trump did nothing wrong then why won't he testify to congress? you're full of sh*t.

RE: Will Trump fire Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller, just because he can?

He ManWrote: (06-13-2017 01:00 AM)

[quote='Isabella' pid='14408027' dateline='1497307829']"What will happen if President Trump fires the special prosecutor, Robert Mueller?"

"Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein had every right to appoint a special prosecutor, but the president has every legal right to fire him. What would be the consequences?"

"JC Mitchell, Author, journalist, political essayist"
Answered May 19

"If Trump fires the special counsel, Mueller, that Rosenstein has appointed, it will just delay the inevitable. Trump can fire Rosenstein if he refuses to fire Mueller because the ethics laws that we had in place lapsed in 1999, after the Clinton impeachment proceedings. He can fire successively down the line until he gets what he wants…the special prosecutor removed. Congress needs to bipartisanly agree to institute the ethics laws that prevent a president from firing a special (or independent) prosecutor. There is much legal debate about this. After the Clinton impeachment, most of Congress thought that the independent prosecution process had too broad of powers and they feared it worked too well. So they allowed the laws to lapse. The legal debate about presidential immunity could be decided by the Supreme Court, but again that would take a great deal of time. Legal scholars debate whether it is a true separation of powers, and if the president is immune from criminal prosecution by someone like a US attorney or district attorney. Presidents can be charged after leaving office, but only after impeachment, removal of office, or resignation.

So will Trump fire the special counsel? It depends. We know he wants to, as evidenced by his Tweets already. However, would this also be evidence of obstruction of justice, “endeavor to influence, obstruct, impede…” as noted under 18 USC Section 1505? It well could be, since the investigation of former National Security Advisor Flynn is a pending proceeding. If Trump truly asked Comey to step away from the investigation as Comey has allegedly said, it is definitely obstruction of justice, because he knew of the investigation of Flynn before approaching Comey.

Trump could also directly fire Mueller if he repeals special counsel regulations. Read about this here: Perspective | Trump or Congress can still block Robert Mueller. I know. I wrote the rules.

Trump doesn't listen to wise advice, and has been known to overreact to mild incidents, so I would not be surprised if he makes an attempt to stall the investigation, or if he orders Rosenstein to fire Mueller ultimately. If Rosenstein refuses, Trump could fire him, and anyone else down the line until they obey his order to fire Mueller.

If Trump ultimately does succeed in firing Mueller, the media will go bonkers and fallout of epic proportions will ensue. Everyone will speculate that Trump is in fact guilty, because there would no real reason to fire a special counsel/prosecutor unless you had something ugly to hide. At that point I think even Ryan may pull his support because the backlash for the party would set them back significantly in the next primary election. The pressure from media, the opposing party and the outcry would be stupendous. Trump should just settle back in his chair and pray that Mueller uses discretion, because the special counsel has quite of bit of it when informing the Department of Justice of his findings. If he does fire Mueller, it will ultimately trigger a new investigation and a possible lawsuit of whether Mueller was fired for just cause. It will be an hellacious firestorm for Trump, and if he feels pressured now, just wait."
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It will be an hellacious firestorm for Trump, and if he feels pressured now, just wait."

RE: Will Trump fire Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller, just because he can?

Dems At Their Weakest Electoral Position Since the Civil War!
In the time since Hillary Clinton’s election loss, the Democratic Party has been desperately trying to convey a sense of unity and has cited various outside forces as the reason why Donald Trump won. Though Democrats lost the presidency and suffered drastic losses nationwide during Obama’s administration, Democrats have yet to realize how badly the party has been run into the ground.

Since 2008, Democrats went from 58 seats in the Senate to 48 seats, 257 seats in the House to 194 seats, 29 governors to 16 governors, and 4,082 state legislative seats to 3,129. At the state level, Democrats are at their weakest point since 1920. Across the board, Democrats are at their weakest electoral position since the Civil War.

RE: Will Trump fire Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller, just because he can?

I hope he does. It'll be his crossing of the Rubicon.

Get this f*cking clown outta here. We need a POTUS that takes his job seriously. That isn't always going on and on about himself. Everything is about Trump to Trump. We don't need a narcissist as a potus, people.

RE: Will Trump fire Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller, just because he can?

LoP GuestWrote: (06-13-2017 02:21 AM)

LoP GuestWrote: (06-13-2017 02:01 AM)

Testify is the shill narrative of the day. Shills gotta earn a living somehow.

What are you talking about? Trump stated he would testify!

People holding someone their WORD = shills?

Are you mentally retarded?

Nobody thinks Trump will keep his word. He rarely does.
Even his lawyers are telling him to break his promise to testify under oath. If he does it Trump will be the first president after Ford to actually do it.

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RE: Will Trump fire Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller, just because he can?

President Donald J. Trump should reassign Mueller to investigating and prosecuting Mrs Hillary Clinton for abuse of office, deliberate mishandling and leaking of classified information, criminal negligence in the Benghazi affair, and especially, corruption and espionage related to facilitating the sale of 25% of American uranium resources to the Russians.

RE: Will Trump fire Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller, just because he can?

LoP GuestWrote: (06-13-2017 01:48 AM)

IsabellaWrote: (06-13-2017 01:16 AM)

You're welcome.

I like how she laid it out, articulate and easy to understand, not that any Trump supporters will read it.

no, we wont. we checked out of anything coming from anti trumpers. period.

the Left isn't Fing around..... we cant either.

they have treated our President with such disrespect, with such anger, and with such a low opinion of the people who voted for him, Trumpers aren't listening anymore....

its a war. Just watch CNN MSNBC WASHPO NYT and the rest of the left. Just look at what the DEMS have been pushing...

Nauhhh....... were not trying to "reach across that isle" and were not listening...f*#k YOU PEOPLE...

need more proof? How about a free play in central park NYC that depicts killing Trump .... its showed every night.... imagine, imagine just for one second.....if that were Obama....or Hillary.....or any other President of the United States.... Trump goes down, there will be hell to pay..... I wouldn't want to be Fareed Zakarhia or Snoop or kathy Griffin or Don Lemon, if that happens...

Agreed but they ARE f-ing around. This is the side that is supposed to be about social justice and pro-minorities and pro freedom of speech but at every juncture they deeply divide, cast fear and doubt among those they purport to champion and block freedom of speech "by any means necessary" because even the dumbest ass on this planet, when shown the true nature of communism with resist it. That is the truth.

Be actual liberals for once and dump this f*cking antifa bullshit and black bloc tactics that have gotten you nothing but beat downs and pepper spray since Occupy and be the real change you allegedly seek.

RE: Will Trump fire Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller, just because he can?

LoP GuestWrote: (06-13-2017 02:40 AM)

LoP GuestWrote: (06-13-2017 01:48 AM)

no, we wont. we checked out of anything coming from anti trumpers. period.

the Left isn't Fing around..... we cant either.

they have treated our President with such disrespect, with such anger, and with such a low opinion of the people who voted for him, Trumpers aren't listening anymore....

its a war. Just watch CNN MSNBC WASHPO NYT and the rest of the left. Just look at what the DEMS have been pushing...

Nauhhh....... were not trying to "reach across that isle" and were not listening...f*#k YOU PEOPLE...

need more proof? How about a free play in central park NYC that depicts killing Trump .... its showed every night.... imagine, imagine just for one second.....if that were Obama....or Hillary.....or any other President of the United States.... Trump goes down, there will be hell to pay..... I wouldn't want to be Fareed Zakarhia or Snoop or kathy Griffin or Don Lemon, if that happens...

Agreed but they ARE f-ing around. This is the side that is supposed to be about social justice and pro-minorities and pro freedom of speech but at every juncture they deeply divide, cast fear and doubt among those they purport to champion and block freedom of speech "by any means necessary" because even the dumbest ass on this planet, when shown the true nature of communism with resist it. That is the truth.

Be actual liberals for once and dump this f*cking antifa bullshit and black bloc tactics that have gotten you nothing but beat downs and pepper spray since Occupy and be the real change you allegedly seek.

RE: Will Trump fire Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller, just because he can?

Natura NaturansWrote: (06-13-2017 02:13 AM)

Dems At Their Weakest Electoral Position Since the Civil War!
In the time since Hillary Clinton’s election loss, the Democratic Party has been desperately trying to convey a sense of unity and has cited various outside forces as the reason why Donald Trump won. Though Democrats lost the presidency and suffered drastic losses nationwide during Obama’s administration, Democrats have yet to realize how badly the party has been run into the ground.

Since 2008, Democrats went from 58 seats in the Senate to 48 seats, 257 seats in the House to 194 seats, 29 governors to 16 governors, and 4,082 state legislative seats to 3,129. At the state level, Democrats are at their weakest point since 1920. Across the board, Democrats are at their weakest electoral position since the Civil War.

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