I mean that considering their age group, if she grew up with these guys, they probably are socially awkward enough that this was the only girl they were exposed to in any more than passing, and thus they all view her as "one of the guys". Which is probably a bummer for her because as they grew from children to adolescents and finally adults (the picture says they are seniors) and the divide between boys and girls grows until it's the divide between men and women, she probably started crushing on one of them or something.

It's like a sitcom trope :( But the guy is too awkward to see her as anything other than one of the boys.

If your comment is some sort of holier than thou social commentary about how men and women shouldn't/aren't/can't be treated different based on their gender, that's fine. I appreciate what you're trying to do, but it's not realistic or applicable for grown ups. Men and women are different, period. You can accept that as true for 99.9% of the population and still love and respect and care for the very rare outliers.

Sorry if it comes across holier than thou but I guess I feel like I treat people differently more on my general impression of them than whether they're a guy or a girl. Just never really thought of 'treating someone like a girl'.

Which I understand, and there isn't anything wrong with that. But it is human nature to treat men and women differently.

I was specifically speaking to attraction in this circumstance, that she was handicapped in that field due to her always being "one of the guys" and no one in the group would see her "as a woman", so they wouldn't ask her out or anything. It was an offhand comment.

I feel you got a point with this. On one hand you got treating someone like a girl. Or you got treating someone like a boy. Which really just means treating them for who they are. Doesn't sound like you're treating someone like a girl in the sense that it's derogatory just approaching them differently than you would a boy.

In my total over analysis of everything men and women are easier to engage on different types of topics. Woman want different things from your stories than men. It's nothing objectively worse just different way to approach people. Obviously people are different and all that so it doesn't represent all people but when you get people who were socialized in the way the average person socializes growing up people aren't too hard to predict and people of different genders are easy to predict.

You've got a minority of people who feel that treating people a certain way based on their gender is heresy punished by death. And you've got a minority of people who feel that accepting people who break gender norms destroys the very fabric of humanity.

Both of these small, divergent groups of thinkers are not the norm. They are both wrong. The majority of people are in the middle, as is the way of the world, and can recognize that there are defined genders, and that most, and I mean, a huge majority, fit into and behave in a way that conforms with society's view of their gender. They also can show humanity, respect, and grace to treat the rare individuals who are different with dignity.

The world isn't black and white. You can accept the facts of majority while being open to a different line of thinking at the same time. It's critical thinking.

It's probably more how she acts compared to other girls that would lead to her being treated "like a guy" rather than "like a girl." You never knew any tomboys growing up? Or as an adult knew a girl who "acts like one of the bros"? To put it another way, this girl probably doesn't have as much in common with the cheerleaders or popular girls or whoever as she does with these guys. If I had to guess, these guys aren't having much interaction with those kinds of girls either, and would be nervous or awkward if they did, whereas they seem pretty comfortable in this picture. So in this context I think "treating someone like a girl" is just opposed to being able to have a natural, comfortable conversation ie how one would "treat a guy." If you've never gotten sweaty palms around the opposite gender and can't even understand how someone could, I envy you.

That makes sense romantically and stuff, but I still don't understand treating people "differently" in other contexts exactly... do most people consciously think about a person's gender while talking to them ("would this word be appropriate to say to a girl/guy")? Because that's.. strange to me, I guess.

You don't have to think about it consciously, it's imprinted on us socially from birth. There are differences between the genders both biologically and sociologically. The only people who don't engage with each other based on these societal norms are people who make a conscious decision not to.

As I typed this out I thought someone would say something like that...

Out of all of them, I'd probably wish I was the guy at about 8 o'clock, because he has a pretty good high school beard and I've never been able to grow one (I'm almost 30 and native american, no facial hair).

Realistically I'm probably the dorkier guy in the square pattern shirt to his right, though.

The problem is schools are so overzealous with punishments now. They'll prevent graduation because of senior skip day. These kids care about their future. They're not risking losing their spot in college or scholarships or even graduation because administrators are dicks. Even when I graduated in 07 things were getting pretty abysmal, but I never realized just how shitty and restrictive they were until I dated a guy with two high school daughters (graduated last year and this year). They can't even breathe funny if they don't want their whole life fucked.

We had a pretty good skip day. Went to the park, had a cookout, played volleyball and shit. The people who tried to pull a prank didn't get to walk at graduation. I don't even remember what the prank was, but it was stupid and administrators overreacted.

My high school has a traditional senior prank. Every year a couple seniors get up early and court off the main parking lot and only let in other seniors to park, forcing all underclassmen to fight over the other minimal parking areas or get dropped off by parents. It wasn't that bad because we only had a little more than 400 students in my high school.

God damn, this pic has everything a stereotypical "weirdos" group needs.

1) the most obvious: the token oddball female. 100% of the dudes think they have a chance with her if they play the long game long enough.

2) couple dudes in the front left who actually aren't that dweeby and with better fitting clothes would look pretty good. They'll figure it out in college.

3) casual fill in friend on the front right: floats around friend groups. Wasn't in on the "dress up" gag and so wasn't prepared. Has borrowed the Fedora from one of the other fine chaps. Hat-donator will never forget this missed opportunity to look smashing.

4) Asian Keanu on the right. What group doesn't want an Asian John Wick.

5) bunch of oddballs in the back wearing fedoras. These are your 'bread and butter' outcasts that give the whole group it's general "off" vibe. One of them (or all) probably think they're the leader of the group.

I was token oddball female. There were many of us, but I was the only one who wasn't fat or riddled with acne. Got one of them to drive me to prom (I made it clear I just wanted a ride and that I would pay for gas) and the guy refused to take my money for gas or food, bought me a corsage and tried to get me to have sex with him on the way home. 10/10 would not hang out with those guys again.

The one that's actually pretty hot. Usually mainstream as fuck, and only in it for the validation. She constantly leads the dudes on because she knows she's going to get showered in love and affection as long as the poor sods think they have a chance.

Nerdy girl that just feels comfortable hanging out with guys who share her interest in Lord of the Rings, Heavy Metal or video games. Usually not eaxctly conventionally attractive, but still enough for the dudes to fall heads over heels in love with her, because she's a girl after all. She's actually a bit annoyed by that, because she just wants to hang out without being put on a pedestal. May or may not get together with one or two of the guys over the years, if they get their shit together.

100% female equivalent of bowtie-fedora-"I've never heard of shampoo"-guy in the back. Ticks at least two of the following boxes: weeaboo, fugly, slightly overweight, die hard Doctor Who fan, mild to moderate mental illness. Generally a weird person either way. The guys don't really see her as a female and more as "one of the guys". Usually silently falls in love with at least one of the guys because, unlike most others, they treat her like an actual human being; on the other hand, she's somewhat hurt that they don't put her on a pedestal like they seem to do with most other girls.

You know they do have a chance right lol? That's why the weird girls join these groups, 9 guys who are all to herself where she's suddenly the pretty girl for once, and they'll usually all get with her at some point.

There are girls like that, but not this one. You can tell because she's actually pretty attractive. She can and will get a hot piece of ass anytime she wants - the only reason she's hanging out with these dudes is because they desperately shower her in love and validation.

Eh, as a highschooler, I've noticed there are lots of pretty girls who are still socially labelled "weird shy girl" because of their vibe or personality or whatever, and they tend to hang out in groups like these.

The people in this thread man... LOL
Like it's not crazy or anything, but I think it was nice. And I feel like the purpose of this subreddit isn't to insult people, but for it to be funny or just like a wow haha this is dumb. Not man, these kids need a life or w/e.

I've never seen any of these people in my life but I recognize every one of them.... Guy who always wears shorts, baby face, guy who can grow facial hair and refuses to shave when it becomes pubey, the fat one, the weird girl, the one who could totally fit in with another group, the one that's just sort of there, the one who never washes his hair, and the asians.

This is semi-funny. This subreddit is more of just a group of people who get pissed about other people having harmless fun. I would guess mostly people who have never had enough friends to do something like a "nice sit down meal" at a table full of people in a high school cafeteria.

This is the type of stuff my school did for senior prank. They threw old shoes off the bride that connects the educational buildings together, picked 'em all up and donated them to charity. Don't know why they call it a senior prank these days when its really just a publicity stunt (they got on the news for pulling a kind hearted prank)

I feel like this is going a little too far. I mean I get it, it's a prank but these days people just say "it's just a prank" after any heinous action they do. Someone needs to let them know that this kind of thing is not okay.