Asimina angustifolia is the name it goes by now. The photos in the DB all by the same person show four petals? Not right for Asimina that have three sepals and three petals. But it certainly looks similar. Someone will surely come along and clear up my confusion.

HamiltonSquare said:Asimina angustifolia is the name it goes by now. The photos in the DB all by the same person show four petals? Not right for Asimina that have three sepals and three petals. But it certainly looks similar. Someone will surely come along and clear up my confusion.

Both plants look so similar except of the flower. Browsing internet resulting Asimina tetramera which can produse flowers in threemerous or fourmereous hence the nama tetramera. But the leaves looks different from the plant that we are talking about.

Is the pics in database are Asimina spatulata/angustifolia with rare variation in flower ?

The A. angustifolia (Raf.)1848 name is the oldest and the most recent review (Kral)1960 A. longifolia is what it's called now? I don't quite get it. Ambiguous synonym is a new one to me. Throw in A. spatulata and where did this end up? Some have one name or another under review. I was just happy to know the genus and am surprised it's a PawPaw. Tiffany has seen quite a few interesting plants of late. So I think i'll have a look at Asimina tetramera. Edit: The names were lectotypified by Karl in 1960.

You need to click on the IPNI link to get the dates they were updated. There's two links " View Record history" and "View this record in TCS-RDF format" where it tells you the dates.

The Catalogues of Life has 2006 as the last updates, it's linked on the Plant List and will take you to the same entries which are now outdated on the Caalogue of Life. If you search on the C of L for Asimina you will get all species but these are "apparently" giving the accepted names and synonyms the wrong way around.

A search on The Plant List for Asimina longifolia brings up two results, where it is now a synonym of both Asimina angustifolia Raf. and Asimina spatulata (Kral) D.B.Ward. Click through to both entries, then to the current entries, then the respective IPNI links where you will find updates occurred in 2014 for Asimina spatulata and 2011 for Asimina angustifolia.

What do we make of all that?! It appears that as Asimina angustifolia was first in time, 1840, and the entry on The Plant List was modified in 2011 where the C of L entry is 2006, then Asimina angustifolia must be correct?

I don't know where that leaves us with Asimina spatulata though! It was modified on The PL later than on the C of L.

The entries here on ATP/NGA were likely made before the changes on The Plant List. The Catalogue of Life is used here for some reason, but these official sites use the same sources and are all linked to The Plant List.

The C of L hasn't been updated, there is every reason to take the records of the latest updates on The Plant List.

The IPNI (International Plant Names Index) appears to be the ultimate resource and that should always be checked on every 'accepted' entry searched on The Plant List as well as cross checking the entries on the C of L. I imagine the C of L might at times have been updated when The Plant List hasn't but somehow I doubt that. The C of L doesn't link to the IPNI, it does quote the same resources from the IPNI though.

The resource used on the C of L for example, for Asimina spatulata is:

The last entry on the IPNI under Record History which states "Barker: (A) Linked to BHL made on 2014-06-07 02:39:27.0 " I noted brought up a different entry when you click on it to the other two entries in the Record History, it comes up near the top and states "Novon 11(3): 360. 2001 [Read the protologue in BHL]."

Hey y'all, I just stumbled across this thread. I am the one with the photos in the db of A. longifolia. Are you saying mine is a freak of nature? If you decide I need to move it let me know please.

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I found this. It might help. It says in part:
Asimina longifolia var. longifolia hybridizes with A . incana (= A . × nashii Kral) to produce spectacular, fragrant flowers with red or pink inner petals, and the hybrid is frequent over their nearly identical ranges. Asimina longifolia var. longifolia crosses with A . pygmaea , particularly along the Suwannee-Okefenokee axis, ultimately to form swarms, the individuals varying in height, degree of arching of branches, flower sizes, pigments, and fragrances. Some of those hybrids were noted by W. Bartram.

Specimens of Asimina longifolia var. spatulata and info.http://www.madrean.org/symbflora/taxa/index.php?taxon=Asimin...
Because A . longifolia var. spatulata much resembles the hybrids between A . longifolia var. longifolia and A . pygmaea , it is not unlikely that it originated as such a hybrid and has extended west and north from the early swarms, these presumably along the Suwannee-Okefenokee drainage.
Tiffany, note the location they have posted on the map. Is this near where you found the one you photographed?

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