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Re: Mother, Husband of Judge Joan Lefkow Found Dead

If you think logically about this, any judge at any given time will have created a long series of enemies through the natural course of his/her career and this judge is no exception. If the legal profession was more about fairness on all sides instead of the govn't holding all the cards and railroading eveyone in sight, this would not be the case; alas such is currently fantasy, what with our "lock-'em-up" "justice" system that is little more than a business of incarceration.

I think the feds are merely jumping to conclusions about this being the responsibility of any Creators; the only people who pull off assassinations of federal judges or their families are mafioso-type figures, which Creators certainly aren't. ZOG would do well to look towards some people involved in Leftcow-induced bust-ups of Russian mafia rings instead.

This is just more agitprop and the featuring of Matt as somehow “tied” to this is just the grasping of straws.

I, for one, am eager to hear the full explanation once the investigation is concluded.

Tell you what, this murder sounds like the FBI was behind it. It would fit the MO since they definately need to make it seem like there is a well organized group of WN who could pull such off. My own sentiments are no WN is capible of such because the FBI keeps close tabs on all of them and Lefkow was obviously being monitored by the FBI. ..................... Something tells me there is something WAY bigger than what is being reported behind this or ever will be. God what a thing to wake up to hearing.

I'm definately going to be watching the wires on this one, something tells me a scrificial lamb is going to be dragged infront of another Kangaroo court.

Syth, I agree with you the most. No way in the world would the feds allow anyone to get close to the judge's family, UNLESS they wanted it to happen. Who else could they get to perform such a monstrous deed except someone on their side? I am saddened by this act of cowardice & wickedness. I do not think any WN would be so stupid as to do this. In light of how MH was steamrolled, all of his followers should expect the same, if they did this deed. Therefore, I believe they DIDN'T do it for now their heads are on the block.

I bet there is little sign of forced entry into the house. I think maybe they were invited into the house. I think clever ones are about.

Its like KS says; the media is used to manipulate the masses & I suspect the powers are alarmed at the growing strength of the WN movement & want to turn it into a pariah, so all the sheeple will stay in the pen.

It might have been blacks commiting a home invasion or to be honest a judge makes enemies with every decision. There are many possibilities.
Where was the judge when the crime happened? Strange that she wasn't at home. Does she have an ironclad alibi? Did she stand to gain a lot of money from their deaths? Think of it lots of money a new place as a martyr
with movie deals and books to be written possibly even a young virile lover. You can bet that the lifetime channel has already been in touch. And to top it off a very convenient scape goat those evil white supremacist. Let's not rush to judgement especially when the enemy is the one giving us the facts.

This is an awful thing to have happen and I hope and pray that the creators have had nothing to do with this. It is quite possible that the judge has had past quarrels with other people, my outlooks are that this is the case.
Im very appalled that this has happened, I do not wish anyone to die as I am against violence in every way. I just really hope that this wasnt related to the creators in any way. Im sure this story will be continued, and i do hope for the best for all parties. I still believe Mr. Hale has had no part in any of the case involvement of this judge, this outlook on the case will never die, as i see a lot of good, honest and intellegent things in Mr. Hale and his group. I wish only that Mr. Hale will receive the fairest treatment and everything will be handled in a legal and professional manner.

It is all about selling newspapers and advertising. They have to cover actual events for these reasons. People want to feel like they are being sensible on the surface when they read the news. Some papers have found a niche, however, in dispensing entirely with the factual in many stories -- such as the national enquirer. We should always remember this -- which is why I love science so much... just like Sherlock holmes loves facts, because they let you see reality -- even hidden reality-- to make the right decisions.

Why are they withholding the cause of death? Why are there whole sensational articles about Matt Hale (Pavlov-conditioning style) paired with these things without a shred of evidence. The whole Matt Hale trial was not so much to remove Matt Hale from activism as to pair a high-profile white supremacist with violent intentions in the mind of the public. You know -- like in Monty python and the Holy Grail where the townspeople dress a poor lady up as a witch complete with tethered-on bumpy nose to support their ridiculous notions.

They worked hard to get Matt Hale very very upset, then had an informant egging him on for 2 years before they got what they wanted. Some scrap of a statement to make a media circus out of. Maybe that is why they are withholding the cause of death, and not saying murder or not yet -- to give the press time to do their thing. Who knows, I would not put it past them. They do keep luridly mentioning pools of blood -- which I do not think in any way appropriate... The family must be hearing those things too.

Maybe they found some Jack-Ruby-esque fall guy to do this with leverage like they used on that Evola guy. Whether they did or not, people should know it never pays to follow people without principles because you can always become the next pawn or object of their lack of principles.

Ha! Not this time, JTT! J/k
I must, of course, agree with your position on this though. Acts such as these will only set us back, both in our freedoms according to the law and in public opinion. And it is most unfortunate that any WN would view things in such a short-sighted manner as to not realize the consequences of incidents such as these and the impact it makes on the movement as a whole.
Please, fellow WN's, always keep our long-term interests in mind at all times.....

The moderator expressed the view that saying these deaths were a good thing, was inappropriate. You mistakenly extrapolated from that and felt obliged to say that these occurrences were misguided. Saying that these events were unfortunate, in public, is also unnecessary/inappropriate, IMO.

Well, I can't get into a debate here about what constitues a crime--I'll get moderated. I guess I'll just say that if this does make things more difficult for WNs, I am of the opinion that worse is better. Oppression can make people stronger.