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Please keep all sigpic-free discussion of tonight's episode and the Golden Power Of James (Or Anyone Else Whose Name Stars With J) on this thread until midnight EDT, by which time the stupid thing will have been won by Jessica. Or Jen. Or Justin, Janielle, Jick, Jeric, or Jach, with an outside chance at Jail. In fact, the only thing we can be absolutely sure of with this veto is that it will have nothing to do with another J-word, because she can only be bothered to show up for one hour a week. Unlike the super-blingie, which can be counted on to wreak havoc for one to three days every week, of which we generally get to see about twenty minutes.

If only we could say the same thing for Julie.

Who might be saved? Who might be nominated in their place? Who will insist this is actually Episode #14? Find out tonight, only on -- oh, who cares...

If the hamsters actually punt out Eric this week, how sick would it be if they announced to the remaining hamsters: Since we were using the proceeds of the "America's Player" twist to fund the prize money this year, and since you got rid of him sooner than it was possible to collect the full amount, the winner will now only get $(some amount less than 500K)? (This will get factored in if Jen or Kail, who are rumored to now be playing already for a cut in half prize......)

Four people in bunny suits for five days.Five people getting gunk dumped on them every hour for a day.Kail and Jen on slop for a month.Kail and Jameka barred from HoH competition for five weeks.Jen giving up half the grand prize (should she win), for a new jackpot of $250,000.And no one got a penny of the 10k, contrary to early live feed reports.

That may have just been the single worst veto competition ever -- and while other shows have had smaller prizes, I think we can still count this season's BB as a contender for the cheapest reality show of all time.

I was disgusted too. I didn't have a problem with the competition until the very end. Giving up half of your prize money to stay in the game? What's up with that, BB?? I give kudos to Jen for doing whatever it takes to remain in the game, but I just think it would be so unfair if she makes it to the end only to receive half of the award money. Of course, you know that BB will now do everything in their power to get Jen to the Final 2. This might be the cheapest BB season yet.

I think it was on TV clubhouse that I read that Eric knew what the poll was -- and in anticipation he went to Jessica and told her he wanted to take her to the final two -- but as a joke/strategy he was thinking of telling other people that as well -- so if she heard about that, she should know in advance he was only saying it to others as strategy - but that SHE was the one he really meant.

This might explain why he was telling this to Jessica before the poll closed (and also why he should have waited for the poll to close before acting).

However, I think he is beginning to see that America is willing to fvck with him and not necessarily pick the person that would be the best for him to tell that to -- but America ended up picking Jessica anyway (I am sure, much to his relief).

Why is everyone so upset with Danielle? D!ck is D!ck and thats that...he says whats on his mind and what people are thinking. He is not afraid to play the game and is not into making "friends". But still, back to my question...why is everyone so upset with Danielle? I don't mean the houseguests, they are just stupid and don't think on their own...I mean all you people who read this?Thanks

Just the way she interacts with people. Rubs me the wrong way. things like:

She never ever does anything wrong in her mind and can't understand why others are treating her so badly. She didn't do anything, everything is everyone else's fault. She is the one and only victim in all situations all the time. She should not be blamed for anything ever.

How could Jen say she was cheating on her boyfriend with Nick, etc.

She is perfect, she does nothing wrong. Everything wrong in the relationship with Dad is Dad's fault even when we see her treat him like carp. Even when she is called on something all she can say is she didn't do that bad thing.

At least I think Jen is playing the sociopath as game play, I'm not sure about Danielle.

I know she is young, but.

Your mileage may vary.

ETA: I'm really not "upset" about her, I just don't like her. She isn't cute enough or blonde enough for me to overlook her way of interacting with other people.

AND, I can understand how she got that way because of the family dynamic with a Dad like that. Doesn't mean I have to like her or her behavior.

{whiney Danielle voice} It's sooooo fruuuussstraating. Even though I voted Nick out it's everyone elses' fault. It suuuuuccckkkkks. He was my best friend. It suuuucccckkkks. Jen is so mean to me because she actually defends herself when I am rude to her. How dare she. It's sooooo fruuuuusstraaaating.

GAG! I am praying Kail gets voted out on Thursday just to see the look on Dick's and her face.

Am I the only person who finds themselves cheering for D!ck and Danielle? Sorry guys, I just dont understand the animosity towards them. I thought most of us here on the message boards appreciated game play. From where I sit I find that D and D are the only ones in the house this year with ANY gameplay. Dr Will and Janelle they are not, but I find no one in the house worthy of my time other than them. I give them credit that they are at least suspect of Eric...We have to remember that they dont have our info...YEAH YEAH YEAH whatever....I understand D!ck gets carried away and behaves like a moron at times and Dani can be whiny.....But please, if I am not aligning myself with them WHO, please tell me, should I cheer for?

I like your thinking 2thDr. They are the only ones giving us some sort of game play while the others who think they are playing are doing ummm nothing......Yes D!ck is a moron but so far what i see is that he knows there is something up with Eric..he obviously doesn't know what Eric is doing and why but he is on the right track that something is up with Eric... his daughter is a brat but she is still playing the game and trying to save her ##### . Those others are so busy trying to make nice they have no idea how to play the game and will be heart broken when they go home because their friends sold them out to win after they expect them not to win nothing for themselves ... so stuuuuuuuuuupid...sorry but i would of taken that $10,000 today , just because hey i would at least have $10,000 more than when i came into the show with...the hell with splitting my winnings with anyone...Jameka was good only to want to give $10,000 out of the 250,000 .... good job god.! i mean jameka

Am I the only person who finds themselves cheering for D!ck and Danielle? Sorry guys, I just dont understand the animosity towards them.

I guess you haven't been watching the live feeds. Danielle is a whiney brat who only just started thinking about the game since she helped to evict her bedmate Nick-- which she is trying to blame on one person yet all 7 of them agreed to do it.

Dick is an angry bully who is verbally abusive. He considers himself to be a BB expert yet he is playing a seriously stupid game. He wholeheartedly jumped on the Evict Nick train even though Nick would have stayed loyal to Danielle (and by default loyal to him) until the end. He had a solid 7 person alliance that he is now trying to tear apart. This has only made him and his daughter the biggest targets of the house when they had a probable three week buffer before the LNC had to turn on themselves--if the order of the next three evictions was Kail, Jen, Zach. If he thinks Jen will stay loyal to those two he's mistaken. She is not an idiot.

AND! He's taking credit for figuring out Eric's votes when it was Danielle only after the help of the banner. What a putz. I hate to admit I was a big fan of his but that ended with his nonstop abuse of Kail and Jen.

Danielle's problem is she is 20 and just needs to grow up some. I'm sure I was a whiney brat at 20 myself. Dick? The man needs some serious anger management therapy. I bet if he wasn't part of this stupid "twist" and had his daughter in the house he would have been tossed by CBS a few weeks ago. The things he has said to Kail and Jen are beyond excusable.

Nope,2thDr, you're not the only one who is rooting for the "Evil Duo". I'm right there with you. Yeah, maybe it's a bad move that they are going against their own group, but either way they were going to be the 1st ones to be targeted from the LNC. The one thing that I wish that they would have done differently is to have put 2 members of the LNC on the block and then use Eric as a replacement. That way you secured the votes. Yes, I know that Evil is mean and that Dani is whiney, but I like them anyway. Atleast their trying to play the game.

At a personal level, D!ck and Daniele are annoying. Daniele is a whinny, self-centered, spoiled b!tch! She never takes any responsibility for her actions and is quite comfortable playing the victim role, when she's the one who brings chaos into her life with her own dysfunctional behavior. D!ck is even worse than her. Being rude and abrasive is not the same as being honest or straight-forward. The fact that he's on a reality show trying to sort out his estranged relationship with Daniele speaks volumes about his priorities and parenting skills. And before anyone defends D!ck by stating that he didn't know that Daniele would be on the show, keep in mind that D!ck and Daniele admitted that they were finalists for Season 6 (as secret partners). No matter how strained their relationship might be, I refuse to believe that they were both completelly oblivious to the fact that both were auditioning for Season 8.

As far as their gameplay is concerned, it's erratic and random at best. Last week, they got rid of Nick, someone who was clearly a very close ally to them. I can see how that benefits the rest of the LNC. But I fail to see how getting rid of Nick benefits either D!ck or Daniele. This week, they discover that Eric is a liar. Instead of laying low and keeping an eye on Eric, they decide to target him and effectivelly alienate the rest of the LNC. This could have been an easy week for Daniele (just like it should have been an easy week for D!ck when he was HOH). All they needed to do was get Jen/Kail out of the house. Instead, D!ck and Daniele continue to let Jen/Kail slide by week after week, while increasing the target on their backs at exponential levels. That's not strategy. It's just sloppy gameplay.

Clearly you do not watch the live feeds or read the live feed threads/websites. Dick IS a bully and there ain't no trying about it. Plain and simple the man is blustering, quarrelsome, and overbearing and he DOES badger and intimidate the other houseguests.

I actually liked Dickk when he first called out Kail for her sneakiness. I thought that would be a hoot, if someone exposed people everytime they tried to pull a secret move. However, he is still blustering about other's sneaky gameplay when he's indulging in it full tilt himself, so it isn't charming anymore.

They edited that segment so well...I was LMAO! Organ music while Jameka was all serious about praying and then cut to Jen making random comment (was it about her belt?)...organ music resumes and Jameka is going all out with her praying to Jesus and then Jen "Now, I will hide the eggs". Couldn't stop laughing!

MM Not mocking Jameka...I do think she is trying to play the game as "morally" as she can. Smart game play? Prolly not. But I doubt she will be ashamed of herself when she leaves the house.

Jammmmeka bent in prayer: "Please God, give me strength to forgive those who prosecute me...Please God, give me..."In the same camera shot, Jen in full Bunny regalia, saying: "Could I please get a white belt to go with this."

I want to get inside that suit with Jen. What aplomb. Doesn't mind the poop shower, 30 days of slop, gives up Prize money ($250,000) with a 'who cares' smile, is seemingly immune to Dickk's crap. What a woman.

Inside that suit.

(Still, I can't put the Bunny-Jen with the picture freakout Jen. Is she an alien, or something?)

I vote that Eric should flatter Dickk, just to P-Off Eric and confuse Dickk.

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