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So, today I had a freak out over boxes. Just could not make myself hot any even though I've done them quite a number of times before. Maybe just because last time I tried on my new snowboard I gave myself whiplash. Not quite as forgiving as my other hybrid.

Si just focused on jumps. Def going backwards with my progression, worried about Roxy camp and not performing well.
I cut my speed too much and still find it impossibly to pop from two feet. I find myself launching with the front of my board higher than back, but then landing evenly.
I don't get why this is such an issue. Managed to convince someone to come with me but I'm worried I'll lose my temper!! Haha.

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02-04-2013 12:58 AM

Soggysnow

So, today I had a freak out over boxes. Just could not make myself hot any even though I've done them quite a number of times before. Maybe just because last time I tried on my new snowboard I gave myself whiplash. Not quite as forgiving as my other hybrid.

Si just focused on jumps. Def going backwards with my progression, worried about Roxy camp and not performing well.
I cut my speed too much and still find it impossibly to pop from two feet. I find myself launching with the front of my board higher than back, but then landing evenly.
I don't get why this is such an issue. Managed to convince someone to come with me but I'm worried I'll lose my temper!! Haha.

We don't really have enough specifics to diagnose the issue properly, but on the surface it sounds like an alignment issue. You seem to be getting unwanted rotation while in the air. A very common problem for early park riders or anyone just starting jumping while free riding is landing on the heel edge with the board at least pertly across the hill. In almost every case, the rider opens up and faces forward once in the air. Any, even slight, twist of the upper body in the air, will rotate the board. So you have to be totally, aligned with your board; hips and shoulders.

Now, if you are not rotating in the air and landing straight, but on edge, this is caused by lean while in the air. If you hunch over even slightly in the air, you will land on the toe edge of the board. Any slight lean back will cause you to land on the heel edge. Its all about eliminating all rotation and staying stacked vertically over your board.

When doing any freestyle maneuver whether in or out of the mark, break it down to ATML:

This standa for Approach, Takeoff, Maneuver and Landing. Right now the two big things you want to focus on is your Approach and Takeoff; if you get these right, the other two pretty much will take care of themselves for simple straight airs! Most important is a stable approach. This means that you get speed and trajectory set early in the approach; long before you hit the kicker. No last minute speed checks or direction changes. You should feel like you are just riding along waiting for the takeoff to happen.

On the takeoff, you need to just really focus on being totally aligned with your board; no hip, shoulder or head rotation at all. Make sure you go off of the ramp totally flat based and completely stacked over your board vertically. This means no bending at the waist or leaning back. Once in the air (Maneuver) all you need to do is stay quiet and don`t lean or rotate ANYTHING and get ready to land.

On the landing, if you have done everything else right, this should be a non event. Just engage the board with the snow and ride away. One big mistake many riders (and all of us once did) is to get spooked by the speed and try to brake check immediately. This can be a horrible thing to do because often, the rider does it before the board has really reengaged with the snow and they loose control in a big way. Allow a second or two to pass, before slamming on the brakes. This time allows you to go from air, to ground riding again.

It takes time to get this all dialed in and you are not going through anything we all did`nt go through. Just keep at it and keep it small until you get it worked out to stay safe....

As someone who has just been starting to jump, this is awesome advice - some of which I'd been taught and some of which I hadn't. Thanks man.

As you hit the transition, crouch. As you come up the ramp on the jump, gradually straighten up, timed so that as you hit the lip you'll be extended as much as you want to be (not necessarily standing straight). You don't even have to put a lot of effort into it. It just seems to send you into a higher orbit.

Sounds like a timing issue. You need to pop as your coming off the lip at the last second, like when the lip is between your bindings you should be extended almost completely. Do it too early and your going to go dead in the air for sure. You need to ollie off rollers though but again wait til the last second, popping early is how you get over things with no air and gain speed like in boardercross.

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Tough to know without a video, but you could very well be trying to pop too early. Off rollers are you getting air already just riding over? If so, next time over it just jump right as you're leaving the ground... It should feel natural, if not something's wrong.

Donutz,-yeh i read that too and have been trying it with no luck. This is why I think Im trying to pop too early? or Simply ollie-ing off so I am not going off two feel evenly. I know I am trying to bring my legs up, but not having much luck with that either, seem to be bending at the waist (I think)

Casual & Poutanen- If I had someone to film or even to ride park with, I could probably fix this problem myself based on what I was seeing, not having that person to help is doing me no favours. My friends are more fond of riding warp speed laps (which I am also not very good at)
You could pop rather than ollie off some rollers, or do you need to use ollie-ing only for rollers?
No not getting air off the rollers just riding, they are fairly small on Whistler and on Blackcomb even riding fairly fast in the terrain garden I still don't get air naturally.

I am kicking myself that I find other things fairly easy but the simple stuff like straight jumps... I don't see anyone else struggling with it and that makes me even more angry haha!

I seem to have a lot of issue with pop. NO idea why and its driving me nuts. I dont know if I am trying to just ollie (I can ollie fine) off or and just starting too early. I dont get any pop but I do feel like a dead weight.
Same issue off rollers. I am getting really mad at myself here.

Try this (I tried it last weekend, worked great):

As you hit the transition, crouch. As you come up the ramp on the jump, gradually straighten up, timed so that as you hit the lip you'll be extended as much as you want to be (not necessarily standing straight). You don't even have to put a lot of effort into it. It just seems to send you into a higher orbit.

I seem to have a lot of issue with pop. NO idea why and its driving me nuts. I dont know if I am trying to just ollie (I can ollie fine) off or and just starting too early. I dont get any pop but I do feel like a dead weight.
Same issue off rollers. I am getting really mad at myself here.

Sounds like a timing issue. You need to pop as your coming off the lip at the last second, like when the lip is between your bindings you should be extended almost completely. Do it too early and your going to go dead in the air for sure. You need to ollie off rollers though but again wait til the last second, popping early is how you get over things with no air and gain speed like in boardercross.

I seem to have a lot of issue with pop. NO idea why and its driving me nuts. I dont know if I am trying to just ollie (I can ollie fine) off or and just starting too early. I dont get any pop but I do feel like a dead weight.
Same issue off rollers. I am getting really mad at myself here.

Tough to know without a video, but you could very well be trying to pop too early. Off rollers are you getting air already just riding over? If so, next time over it just jump right as you're leaving the ground... It should feel natural, if not something's wrong.

01-31-2013 05:04 PM

Soggysnow

I seem to have a lot of issue with pop. NO idea why and its driving me nuts. I dont know if I am trying to just ollie (I can ollie fine) off or and just starting too early. I dont get any pop but I do feel like a dead weight.
Same issue off rollers. I am getting really mad at myself here.