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I think users on this thread have quickly forgotten my note that still applies :
I wished to not take such measures but I'm forced as I see nothing but toxic discussion, accusations and vile remarks. This is my last warning, anyone who does not pay any heed and violates my note will receive a formal warning.

In regards to my last post/ warning, I've received some PMs requesting for clarifications. I'm going to reply here so that everything will be clear for everybody and fan fights won't reproduce again. Of course, soompi allows discussions but doesn't allow heated ones or arguments. The ones that that happened made some leave or express their desire to leave this thread lately because according to their statements, it was too tiring for them. When someone says this, a reassessment should be made .... Therefore instead of letting all emotions out, I advice to re-read your posts to make sure they don't contain words that could hurt someone else's feelings and lead to fanwars. For instance calling another user " blind ", " ignorant", " a fangirl" ( it implies the reason they root for a character is shallow or they are superficial fans) or that his/ her views are irrelevant is an attack/argument ad hominem. Arguments ad hominem are arguments that attack someone's character instead of adressing the point that they are trying to make. If EC's supporters don't agree or understand the views of DM's supporters, it is unfair to call them out. And EC's supporters should not call out too. Using the words highlighted above could hurt both parties.
Concerning DM, I think KES will laugh if she sees how serious fans can become over supporting characters. I think she clearly knew that creating such a character would cause controversies and debates. In her previous dramas we haven't seen a character like DM. Instead of arguing about if AS will like DM or which pair has chemistry, it would be wiser to analyze the characters from the writer's perspective. For example, did she intend to make DM a villain ? I mean a villain like Wan Ik or the baldy japanese army man. DM is certainly a very flawed character and I understand why EC's supporters can't sympathize with him ( he is too brutal, he kills for money or hate), he certainly has some villainish traits but the writer made him to have some weaknesses ( his obsessive love for AS, his unusual friendship with the geisha, a lack of support or moral compass that EC had). This is why he gets the support of DM's sympathizers. Thus, he is a very grey character that hides within himself very contradicting emotions and his development throughout the serie should be looked forward to. He can easily become a complete villain like Wan Ik or redeems himself and fights against Japan alongside AS. He is one of the keys ( with EC and HS) of the resistence against the illegal occupation and Japan's colonization.

Eugene is the current consul, so he should write/create a marriage certificate and arrange wedding rings (or they are only enaged?). This should look realistically shown, because they would let her out of the country like that? There are restrictions on taking a woman on board.

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RA must have prepared the way back from Japan to Joseon. Just how is Aeshin intends to go back when there are restrictions and Eugene will go further?

1. It would be interesting if Eun San told her that she should go to US (order? her time is over?) or he started working with Eugene or take his side and send her to a safe place - US. Eun San give Eugene the missionary under care so the situation may look similar.

2. Unless Eugene will be a deserter and come back to her and follow her to Joseon. They can die in Joseon or be saved by Americans chased by Musin Society or Japanese soldiers thanks to Kyle (he send telegram to US and explain sytuation and they forgive Eugene for the former merit and Aeshin officialy become American citizen and both must go US). Kyle save both of them in Japan and there must also be American soldiers - US legation.

3. They can either die in Japan (together holding hands like heroes and lovers? such a romantic version) or go to US together (her decision after mission in Japan) .

4. She die for country and he stay alone?

Something else? More or less realistic

The possibilities are so many and I wonder what writers will choose. I'm waiting now - the question is whether I will be satisfied or disappointed by the finale. I am losing certainty in writers (after ep 19-20 and synopsis ep 21) and this may be my last post maybe I will not have anything to comment on... maybe they'll fix something in episode 21-22 and the inspiration will come back.

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Does anyone here know if/when tvN will release the synopsis for E21? @mistymorning , you are the one who usually posts the synposes, so could you please be on the lookout for the E21 synopsis and post it here if it gets released tomorrow? Thanks in advance.

AS tries to get to Japan using Eugene(KTR). Eugene takes her hands even though he knows her intention. Arriving Japan, Eugene has a premonition of sad parting with AS...

Ooh! thanks. Wasn't expecting it to be posted until tomorrow.

You know, I can't decide what is more depressing - the gloomy synopsis or the fact that I am a little bit happy that Eugene and Ae Shin at least get to spend some time together, albeit under such sad circumstances..

SPECULATION TIME:

AS tries to get to Japan using Eugene(KTR). Eugene takes her hands even though he knows her intention.

Poor Eugene - He knows what's up but he he is too noble a character to call her out on it. He would rather sacrifice and suffer.

Anyways, previously, I have found the synopses of Mr. Sunshine to be too literal and matter of fact - so Eugene taking Ae Shin's hands may literally mean just that - he takes her hands in his and agrees to go with her. OR it could mean a fake marriage and the whole shebang of fake certificate and fake rings. I will safely go with the former option.

Arriving in Japan, Eugene has a premonition of sad parting with AS...

Hmm. She will definitely part with him once they reach Japan but I don't think she will straight up say it to him but rather give him the slip and disappear. It is another matter if Eugene will let her go away like that - from the preview we see him on the rooftop in a mask, following someone - he is definitely on to her.

I wonder when and where the other parts of the preview take place - does AS run into Dong Mae in Japan? Possible, no? Or maybe she first goes to him in Joseon to gather information on the Mushin Society HQ in Japan.

About AS's clothes - there are some sequences of scenes in the preview where she is in Western clothes (red hat and blue coat) running with Eugene and alone too, in a bid to escape from people chasing them/her. There are also scenes in which she is in her RA attire of dark suit, pointing a gun from a rooftop and later getting attacked by some men - now, which of these events come first - the events where she is in a Western dress or the events when she is in her RA attire suit? What do you guys think?

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ARGH!!!! So we have to wait until the 29th and 30th to watch the final two episodes? *violently flips imaginary table*

*Picks up table to be flipped again*

Well.. we could see it this way.. the drama doesn't end too soon on the 22-23/9 weekend. It's unavoidable because on Chuseok, there'll be special festive programs and movies screened on tv. MR.SUNSHINE wasn't affected by the Asian Games before, unlike other dramas, it was not postponed although ratings dropped a bit. So.. this the time to test the 'patience' of viewers.. in the cruelest way possible.

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Episode 21 preview on Netflix has English subs differ slightly from the ones subbed by others. In Netflix preview, Eugene asked how far would Ae Shin go in exploiting him? Very heartbreaking to see this. Sigh...

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Episode 21 preview on Netflix has English subs differ slightly from the ones subbed by others. In Netflix preview, Eugene asked how far would Ae Shin go in exploiting him? Very heartbreaking to see this. Sigh...

That wording is indeed all kinds of heartbreaking. I wonder what her response will be to that question.

Also, even though this is a very high quality promo, I am still unable to understand what's exactly happening in the scene where Ae Shin is being attacked by a bunch of sword wielding men. She is resting her hand on someone as she tries to avoid the blows and the question has been nagging me all week - who is it? Eugene? Dong Mae? Mystery person? Also in that scene, one of the men who comes in last, attacks/pushes away one of the men attacking her. Who is he?

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@mistergenie I try not to pay too much attention to the previews after being repeatedly fooled previously .. they're either misleading or simply showing sad ending all the way. But what you wrote just reminded me of something.. Ae Shin will reunite with someone from her past, the person who saved her as a baby(?).. or something to that effect.

Humbly hoping @mistymorning could enlighten us on this. With 4 episodes left, seems like there will be a 'new character' appearing in the drama.

That actor is for the character RA member Song Young, who's working in Shanghai. We saw him first in Joseon court, discussing fate of Joseon people who were captured by US (from the attack on Gangwha island) in the episode 1(or 2? sorry my failing memory), and then one of 2 friends who came back with baby Aeshin from failed assassination attempt on WI from Japan.

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@rubie So, looks like the mystery person with whom she reunites will be Song Yeong, her father's friend. Last we heard of him, he was set up in Shanghai - so, this means that Ae Shin will successfully reach Shanghai from Japan. I have a feeling though that she won't be able to rescue LJM - he may die in Japan. Most of all, I wonder if Eugene also accompanies her to Shanghai. Or does he help her in Japan and parts ways to go back to America? That would explain why she is probably alone when she is being attacked.

ARGH! At this point, another separation would be just sadistic on the writer's part. Kicking us while we are down.