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[quote=’Mr.Kumarbhai’ pid=’44933′ dateline=’1450522874′]
I have given what i am getting… if Amatan or MJ gets some more updates then they will surely post here .. afterall we come here to do the same only…
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Thank You so much sir. Surely, u all have been great contributors to so many forums, i am not like others who use someone’s service and then discard them and start calling them bad names. No matter what others say i will always respect people who help others and no one can make me entangled in their selfish motives.

[quote=’Mr.Kumarbhai’ pid=’44931′ dateline=’1450522513′]
LoOk dear… U should understand y i told to ask Amatan itself bcoz we r having differant gadgets for sat related purpose.. if he gets some updates then i may not get .. .. still there may be many PIDs found in Amatan Gadget .. so how can i reply for his findings unless me too got them ?
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Totally understand ur point of view sir. Hope Amantan bro comes online and gives us a clear picture about this

LoOk dear… U should understand y i told to ask Amatan itself bcoz we r having differant gadgets for sat related purpose.. if he gets some updates then i may not get .. .. still there may be many PIDs found in Amatan Gadget .. so how can i reply for his findings unless me too got them ?

[quote=’Mr.Kumarbhai’ pid=’44929′ dateline=’1450521359′]
Leaving or staying is ur choice … but take care of words while writing…
Posting updates r my wish and no one can blame me for not replying surely .. same apply to u too .. i can ask u but replying is ur wish .
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Sir, i had also requested u many times but its okay sir, i understand that u would not have got much time to scan PID’ s as it takes more like u told me right now which i didn’t knew earlier . Had u told me earlier about it then i would have understood it then itself. I was confused as u were posting other updates but not giving answers about PID’s.

I can only request sir, i am no one to force anyone. U r much more experienced and have vast knowledge, people like me can only learn from u.

Sorry for using the term “deliberately” in my earlier post as i misunderstood the reality

Leaving or staying is ur choice … but take care of words while writing…
Posting updates r my wish and no one can blame me for not replying surely .. same apply to u too .. i can ask u but replying is ur wish .

[quote=’Mr.Kumarbhai’ pid=’44926′ dateline=’1450520408′]
Yes i was not able at that time… i have my own personal work and coming here only when i am getting free time only.. i am doing all these thing when i get free time for passion of sat tracking .. to check these technical things it takes lot of time and patiance .. its not like scan .. just click and get the result .. how u know all about this ?
So dont try to make allegations on me… be happy when u to get updates ….
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Sir, i respect u a lot and my words were not meant to be taken in a negative way. I am always thankful and grateful to u for the hard work u have put in to give us exclusive updates. U have been the reason to give us smiles always.

Sir, if u always take my words in a negative way then it hurts me too. I would be happy to leave this forum if u think that i am causing hurt and being wrong to u. That’s not my intention anytime

Yes i was not able at that time… i have my own personal work and coming here only when i am getting free time only.. i am doing all these thing when i get free time for passion of sat tracking .. to check these technical things it takes lot of time and patiance .. its not like scan .. just click and get the result .. how u know all about this ?
So dont try to make allegations on me… be happy when u to get updates ….

[quote=’Mr.Kumarbhai’ pid=’44920′ dateline=’1450518840′]
A small update from me…
All 6 Vertical Transponders each r having 1 PID..
Also there r few additional PIDs in Horizontal Transponders too.. few r reserve for SOS and very few r for new channels .. they r not much but presently very few for new channels..
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But Amantan bro told few days back that V tp’s have many PID’s. Have they removed some of them sir?

A small update from me…
All 6 Vertical Transponders each r having 1 PID..
Also there r few additional PIDs in Horizontal Transponders too.. few r reserve for SOS and very few r for new channels .. they r not much but presently very few for new channels..

Where i said u have issues in watching ? i have replied about signals issues only untill u bring the watching … 🙂 i never faced any issues in watching in any Transponders unless its raining or heavy clouds .. nothing like issues from backend V TP work done by tatasky ..

[quote=’Mr.Kumarbhai’ pid=’44876′ dateline=’1450429336′]
U R telling the same again and again .. i dont accept that its bcoz of V Pol surely.. if so every one has to get them but not.. there is no issue for watching even if the signal quality is 2% .. unless the audio and video is not freezing we can watch … the quality has to be good only to counter the signal variations like in Rainy season ..
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I never said that i m having issues in watching chs on 11510 H. Faced issues in 11550 H on secondary stb but tata sky has stabilized signals from their back end

U R telling the same again and again .. i dont accept that its bcoz of V Pol surely.. if so every one has to get them but not.. there is no issue for watching even if the signal quality is 2% .. unless the audio and video is not freezing we can watch … the quality has to be good only to counter the signal variations like in Rainy season ..

[quote=’Mr.Kumarbhai’ pid=’44869′ dateline=’1450427275′]
I have written straight and clear in the words… if u think those r for fun then its not my issue but urs only… I have made fun of myself only …
I still remember few years back some issues in LNB for u as i remember [may be other issue] .. u never accepted my words and told what u now telling .. finally one day ur issue was solved and then only u accepted what i told..
Y cant u think in simple .. if any signal issues from Tatasky end then every user means all users including me has to get the problem in signals but its not happening .. only very few including mainly u r getting them.. i am not getting .. if its from TS end then me too has to get but didnt … those r not facts surely ..
Every time any issues u face regarding signals u confirm as its from TS End only but not thinking as atleast me too has to get them … thats y wrote and made fun of myself as TS is delivering full signals to me ..
R U accepting anything unless urself satisfied about others comments ? no na ? .. so then others too will not accept if they too satisfy what u or others told..
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Sir, I am not facing any issue in watching channels from 11510 H. Its just that due to V polarity activation, signals r sometimes dropping or increasing. This has nothing to do with set up at my end, its happening due to back end at tata sky end.

I have written straight and clear in the words… if u think those r for fun then its not my issue but urs only… I have made fun of myself only …
I still remember few years back some issues in LNB for u as i remember [may be other issue] .. u never accepted my words and told what u now telling .. finally one day ur issue was solved and then only u accepted what i told..
Y cant u think in simple .. if any signal issues from Tatasky end then every user means all users including me has to get the problem in signals but its not happening .. only very few including mainly u r getting them.. i am not getting .. if its from TS end then me too has to get but didnt … those r not facts surely ..
Every time any issues u face regarding signals u confirm as its from TS End only but not thinking as atleast me too has to get them … thats y wrote and made fun of myself as TS is delivering full signals to me ..
R U accepting anything unless urself satisfied about others comments ? no na ? .. so then others too will not accept if they too satisfy what u or others told..

[quote=’Mr.Kumarbhai’ pid=’44859′ dateline=’1450406540′]
Really ! u r getting many variations in signals one way or other …. u never agree about the issues in ur Dish Settings .. 😛 u say its 100% perfect but still getting issues in signals ..
I didnt faced any issues in any Transponders… I think tatasky is delivering full signals to my Dish only … 😀
BTW Which Brand Dish and LNB u r having for Tatasky ?
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So sir u want me to just admit that issue is with my dish and lnb when i have told u that many times before too it is not the case. Tata Sky is doing backend work and that is what is affecting signals. 11510 H earlier had 40% signals but now has 30% signal quality. Also plz be clear i am not talking about signal variations due to day/night, weather or problem in wire/lnb/dish at my end, there is no such issue. I am not that much of a noob that u time and again make fun of me . i would have appreciated a civilized discussion based on facts but despite telling the facts u r time and again poking fun at me. Sorry Sir, i respect ur experience and knowledge but the least i expect is humility in coversations from ur end, u always treat me as if i am lying or making up stories. Once and for all, i am not interested in that

Really ! u r getting many variations in signals one way or other …. u never agree about the issues in ur Dish Settings .. 😛 u say its 100% perfect but still getting issues in signals ..
I didnt faced any issues in any Transponders… I think tatasky is delivering full signals to my Dish only … 😀
BTW Which Brand Dish and LNB u r having for Tatasky ?

Locking means transponder is bcoming active with Parameters … that can get scanned by all gadgets likes of FTA Recievers .. but they cant get the active positions in those Mhz place ….
As Amatan already said They have added few PID s in those V Transponders .. that means some slots allocated for Channels either new or existing ..

Usually we r not posting scan result or screen shots of those secret informations .. actually members need informations but no need of any proof for our info specially in this forum… 🙂 Every info from those Transponders findings and informations posted by us proven as correct that too many times,everytimes…
Bro… hope u believe our informations regarding Transponders and not ask for any scan result .. 🙂

[quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’44345′ dateline=’1448872498′]
Sir, i also have knowledge about this which is why i m telling u. Let someone other post pics
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Bro… how can that be confirmed .. Every one has differant alignments and setup … there r many aspects that can effect the signals… also i am not reffering the signal quality or signal strength.. it will differ in differant gadgets even we connect the same Dish signals..
I am reffering only for stability of signals … for me there is no unstabilty or variations in signals even now…

MAC: Medium Access and Control. The link layer header of the
Ethernet IEEE 802 standard of protocols, consisting of a 6B
destination address, 6B source address, and 2B type field (see also
NPA).

MPE: Multiprotocol Encapsulation [ETSI-DAT, ATSC-DAT, ATSC-DATG]. A
scheme that encapsulates PDUs, forming a DSM-CC Table Section. Each
Section is sent in a series of TS Packets using a single TS Logical
Channel.

PID: Packet Identifier [ISO-MPEG]. A 13 bit field carried in the
header of TS Packets. This is used to identify the TS Logical
Channel to which a TS Packet belongs [ISO-MPEG]. The TS Packets
forming the parts of a Table Section, PES, or other Payload Unit must
all carry the same PID value. The all 1s PID value indicates a Null
TS Packet introduced to maintain a constant bit rate of a TS
Multiplex. There is no required relationship between the PID values
used for TS Logical Channels transmitted using different TS
Multiplexes.

[quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’44342′ dateline=’1448871732′]
Signal Quality info is precise in all tata sky stb’s. Signal Strength is what varies in diff tata sky stb’s according to software. Sir ii know these things which is why i m telling u. I have 3 diff stb’s, HD/Hd+/SD and have checked signal quality of each tp on every stb type. Readings rsame for quality, strengths differ
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Signal Quality info is precise in all tata sky stb’s. Signal Strength is what varies in diff tata sky stb’s according to software. Sir ii know these things which is why i m telling u. I have 3 diff stb’s, HD/Hd+/SD and have checked signal quality of each tp on every stb type. Readings rsame for quality, strengths differ

Ur FTA stb is showing 100% signal quality on 1150 V and H which is false reading. The actual signal quality is between 20 to 40%
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Please dont argue with me on any sat related things … ::P i am using Tatasky or DTH STB from 2004, using FTA recievers from 1987, PCI Cards from 2009…
Now u even dont know the signal level i showed is not from FTA STB… ::P
FYKI Tatasky STB or any DTH STB s is showing Signal levels according to the SW versions… so leave it…

[quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’44329′ dateline=’1448870144′]
Wow! That’s great news. So 7 V Tp’s r now active. Let’s see when and what they do. Seems that they r preparing for a bog surprise close to new year
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We all know very well that Tatasky have only 8-12 Tp’s on Gssat-10 but Aumnanonarayan in his ivory world believes dey r having 24 Tp’s. Also he is Arguing continuously without Facts in most Bizzare manner as always.

Well We all Contribute to this Forum in d Productive manner except Aumnanonarayan who contributes to each n every forum in d Most Bizzare Manner n i.e. Speculative. Whatever bizzare things comes to his mind he just posts in forums saying he has proof.

No such things surely… Either in C Band or in KU band there will not be same signals whole day… it differs according to weather .. it applies to all Sats in the whole world… i am not telling according to my calculations but experiance and the actual fact..

[quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’43759′ dateline=’1446448108′]
I never doubted ur knowledge sir. I shared what i know and told to wait n watch. I never said even once that u r wrong. I may not have all the experience u have but i certainly know the things i am commenting about.
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Well what Tatasky does is upto them and i am not talking about it… i am still in mystery of the Reuse method in KU Band Transponders.. we still dint get any info regarding ku band transponder reusing related .. u r not providing them but saying its there.. then how can we blindly believe ?

I never doubted ur knowledge sir. I shared what i know and told to wait n watch. I never said even once that u r wrong. I may not have all the experience u have but i certainly know the things i am commenting about.

Not atall .. I have already said as i am not defaming but u challanged my sat tracking knowledge.. so i have to reply … can u see any bad words used in my any posts ?
We know something about sat related things.. so u have to answer our doubts with solid proof and not like in other forums follow/believe what others say without confirming…
Posting or not posting is urs choice.. we dont follow/believe like other forums whatever u/any one post regarding sat related contents/info..

Okay Sir. You all think that i am idiot and i sm fine with it. Time will eventually tell what tata sky is upto. I don’t want arguments and fights over such pity things. Tata Sky is not Life and vice versa.

I came here for productive discussion but u all r hellbent in defaming and putting me down on all fronts. So i will not post anymore on this forum.

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[quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’43734′ dateline=’1446436426′]
Also it changes for same satellite in different regions. I also know what i am writing about and have enough knowledge
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What Kumarbhai told is correct. You can check with any satellite. Skew has to be changed for some tps. In Dish TV even alignment has to be adjusted to get good signals for all its tps just from NSS 6. Measat as he already mentioned skew has to be adjusted. In Insat also similar. Thaico, Intelsat etc., on C band even worse where we won’t even get half the tps not even hint of signal on them and full signal on other tps!

It is more like compromise of getting all tps with acceptable signal vs full signal of a particular tp.
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Those Skew changes r not written in articles,books or in any google searches.. we ourself has to find and suffer to get the correct signal.. 😛

[quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’43745′ dateline=’1446441780′]
Also kumar sir’s scanning stb is giving wrong reading. 11550 H does not have 100% signal quality or 78% strength. It has just 40% signal quality in normal situation and 20% quality when 11550 v is on
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I am not checking in STB .. its bcoz the signal level, quality is not perfect in any STB .. Those r depanding on the SW of provider.. Its in all DTH STB.. even u can see the differance in differant FTA Recievers, DTH STB, PCI Cards .. all depands on the SW of certain gadget.. I have seen this in many STB,FTA Recievers.. even if u didnt get 60% in fta Rciever or PCI card the STB will show it 100% .. Anil can confirm in RDTV STB… its always stable @100% in a SW Version/STB. differs in another SW/Model..

Dear i am tracking Sats from many years and know a bit on this surely… there r many things to get perfect signals even in KU band Dish too… Getting 100% signal in Home TP is not enough surely..Home Transponder is always the strongest …
For example in RDTV we can get 100% signal in Home TP but its most of the time we r not getting signals in HD TP or full signals .. so we have to align according to the HD TP signals..
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yes 100% true kumarsir , i as know rdtv even u get 100 % in home tp the last tp and the hd tp will some times no signal
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Yes.. He is just following the knowledge of the contents written in Sites, books and articles.. actually he have no exact practical experiance.. we r in sat tracking from many years and actually we dont need of those articles,books to align any Dish.. but its good if we read them and improve our knowledge..

[quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’43734′ dateline=’1446436426′]
Also it changes for same satellite in different regions. I also know what i am writing about and have enough knowledge
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From how many years u r tracking sats ? how many sats u have tracked in ur life ? how many dish u have aligned in ur life ? u might have read articles,books, searched google but they only Helps.. remember Helps ur tracking.. without any practical experiance no one could get the exact knowledge .. those written in books r only theory but not always works in Practical..
we in our language Kannada says always .. ಪುಸ್ತಕದ ಬದನೇಕಾಯಿ .. translate and search google for understanding .. ::P so leave about what knowledge i have in Sat tracking..

[quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’43742′ dateline=’1446439318′]
Both H and V tp’s we r getting currently r from GSat. As tata sky activates dual polarity so load increases and signals drop as power is divided
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Even after clearly explaining your mindless reply proves the point that you are never ever going to learn anything. Live in your dream land.

[quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’43713′ dateline=’1446433656′]
Let us see if they will switch off H tp’s or not. If they switch it off after activating all V tp’s then i guess that will be bcoz they were waiting for all dishes to be aligned properly as V tp’s require proper lnb skew while H tp’s still work even if its little off
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H or V is just the way signal propagates. It does not mean that H has more tolerance to error in skew than V. What Kumarbhai is telling as it is not exactly 90 degrees phase between H & V as per theory. There will be difference even if it was from same satellite. But now it is from another satellite Gsat, the phase might be different even more.

So unless we skew the LNB for V we will not be knowing the exact signal level of that tp. Also generally not all satellites gives same power.

[quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’43734′ dateline=’1446436426′]
Also it changes for same satellite in different regions. I also know what i am writing about and have enough knowledge
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What Kumarbhai told is correct. You can check with any satellite. Skew has to be changed for some tps. In Dish TV even alignment has to be adjusted to get good signals for all its tps just from NSS 6. Measat as he already mentioned skew has to be adjusted. In Insat also similar. Thaico, Intelsat etc., on C band even worse where we won’t even get half the tps not even hint of signal on them and full signal on other tps!

It is more like compromise of getting all tps with acceptable signal vs full signal of a particular tp.

[quote=’Mr.Kumarbhai’ pid=’43731′ dateline=’1446436171′]
[quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’43730′ dateline=’1446435944′]
Once u get highest signal quality in home tp then u will get max signal in other tp’s too. My dish alignment and lnb skew r perfect.

LNB Skew is at -10.9.
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Dear i am tracking Sats from many years and know a bit on this surely… there r many things to get perfect signals even in KU band Dish too… Getting 100% signal in Home TP is not enough surely..Home Transponder is always the strongest …
For example in RDTV we can get 100% signal in Home TP but its most of the time we r not getting signals in HD TP or full signals .. so we have to align according to the HD TP signals..
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yes 100% true kumarsir , i as know rdtv even u get 100 % in home tp the last tp and the hd tp will some times no signal

[quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’43730′ dateline=’1446435944′]
Once u get highest signal quality in home tp then u will get max signal in other tp’s too. My dish alignment and lnb skew r perfect.

LNB Skew is at -10.9.
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Dear i am tracking Sats from many years and know a bit on this surely… there r many things to get perfect signals even in KU band Dish too… Getting 100% signal in Home TP is not enough surely..Home Transponder is always the strongest …
For example in RDTV we can get 100% signal in Home TP but its most of the time we r not getting signals in HD TP or full signals .. so we have to align according to the HD TP signals..

Getting 100% signal in Home TP is not to be treated as perfect alignment.. the Signal must be heighest in the Low signaled Trasnponder.. which is mostly 11130 H ,11470 H, 11550 H ..
I am not degrading u bro… but we didnt get any solid proof for Transponder related facts u have given… we also know something about Transponder related things u know .. :P..

[quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’43718′ dateline=’1446434263′]
Sir, notice on tata sky stb. For example, in colors infinity hd which is on 11550 H, currently signal quality is 20% as 11550 V tp is also active. When V tp is off or its signal is low then H signal jumps to 30 or 40%.

Similar occurences/differences in other such tp’s too where v tp’s r active
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just check the signal levels i have posted… Surely no such issues for me … its bcoz of the Skew/Dish Alignment/or some alignment issues only if u r having problems.. I have posted the signals of 11550 TP itself..

Sir, notice on tata sky stb. For example, in colors infinity hd which is on 11550 H, currently signal quality is 20% as 11550 V tp is also active. When V tp is off or its signal is low then H signal jumps to 30 or 40%.

Similar occurences/differences in other such tp’s too where v tp’s r active

[quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’43713′ dateline=’1446433656′]
Let us see if they will switch off H tp’s or not. If they switch it off after activating all V tp’s then i guess that will be bcoz they were waiting for all dishes to be aligned properly as V tp’s require proper lnb skew while H tp’s still work even if its little off
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No way… its confirmed if they switch off… they have already done the Dish alignment.. so they will not invest more surely…

Let us see if they will switch off H tp’s or not. If they switch it off after activating all V tp’s then i guess that will be bcoz they were waiting for all dishes to be aligned properly as V tp’s require proper lnb skew while H tp’s still work even if its little off

Presently 6 Vertical Transponders having signals.. as compared to Horizontal Transponders about 10% less signals in Vertical TPs.. its almost normal .. bcoz usually we r not getting the same signal quality in Both Polarity and if we align the LNB Correctly Horizontal Transponders r giving more percent signals than Vertical but it depands on how we align the skew..
Verdict is Normal signal level in Both Polarity..

[quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’43626′ dateline=’1446195317′]
Now it is confirmed that these V tp’s and H tp’s both r from GSat 10. Signal has been stabilized on 10970 H, 11130 H, 11510 H, 11550 H and 11630 H so in corresponding H tp’s, the signals have dropped by 20%
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You still haven’t answered about the transponder reuse. Please give some link or explain more regarding the same as you claim you have done good research.

they can add/remove any names in their SW.. it will not confirm surely.. if its real then not any one site in this Net world got signals or posted a update in any site by any one.. there r many great sat experts in the world.. they can get any info from their gadgets[not like us] ..even i got signals in those TPs in the STB but thats in and from Insat 4A Direction .. this says as they r dupe only…

I Think there is no such migrations to Asiasat.. it was rumoured specially from TS side to make a fool of people… they spread the rumour to dealers and other officials.. they too got confirmations by recieving aligning tools.. actually it was to fine tune the existing Dish for Gsat Vertical Transponders.. Hungry of channel addition TS Subscribers got more than Happy .. Still people believe as Asiasat is on the way but no concrete confirmations from any one…

I think after Tatasky shifts to Gsat 10 Insat 4A will concentrate on C Band channels only.. this might help to increase the life of sat.. now a days many channels r migrating to Insat 4A .. also can see very very few C band channels in Gsat ..

OK no problem bhai.. i know u from years.. 😛
we r getting most rumours but not facts.. its not like ur MPEG4 migration/channel addition infos.. these r not be confirmed easyly.. we r getting the minute changes in our gadgets.. but no such changes about Horizontal Transponders as off now ..

I am writing the facts only with solid/valid proofs… not a single rumour or confirmation by guess .. i didnt said as H TPs r from Gsat 10 bcoz i didnt get any proof.. i said Vertical Transponders r from Gsat 10 bcoz gsat has got V TP only… no Horizontal Transponders..u have give proof not me ..

[quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’43629′ dateline=’1446197492′]
They r not same on those H tp’s whose corresponding V tp signals have increased. It is not a guess, i monitor all facts and readings carefully
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can u give me some info regarding the change of parameters of existing Horizontal Transponders… actually we MJ,Amatan and myself didnt found/get any changes in parameters..
please dont guess bro… just give some valid proof.. we all watching those transponders every day ..

[quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’43626′ dateline=’1446195317′]
Now it is confirmed that these V tp’s and H tp’s both r from GSat 10. Signal has been stabilized on 10970 H, 11130 H, 11510 H, 11550 H and 11630 H so in corresponding H tp’s, the signals have dropped by 20%
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Vertical signals increased but Horizontal signals r same as earlier.. usually in noon time signals may be less during bright hot sunshine..
How can this be confirmed by reading signals ? its a guess only by u .. not a solid proof surely …

Now it is confirmed that these V tp’s and H tp’s both r from GSat 10. Signal has been stabilized on 10970 H, 11130 H, 11510 H, 11550 H and 11630 H so in corresponding H tp’s, the signals have dropped by 20%

[quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’43604′ dateline=’1446106892′]
Sir, i have told all these things after thorough research and based on facts. Wait n Watch after Diwali (frequency reuse on GSat) and one next 2 years (AS migration or may be new sat from ISRO) u will see the reality
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Please provide few links where there is anything like Transponder reuse. The present problem is about lack of transponders and not about lack of frequencies.

[quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’43604′ dateline=’1446106892′]
Sir, i have told all these things after thorough research and based on facts. Wait n Watch after Diwali (frequency reuse on GSat) and one next 2 years (AS migration or may be new sat from ISRO) u will see the reality
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Here i got a odd reply from u dear…
1. According to u they r reusing GSAT 10 transponders… then they will leave Insat 4A .. Bcoz GSAT have only Vertical Pol Transponders.. according to ur facts, research they r reusing Gsat Transponders of Horizontal Pol ..
didnt get ..
2. as per ur statements they still didnt get 24 Transponders from Asiasa7/8 … if so y u say as maybe from Isro ?
Didnt get this too .. and i am right as there is no solid proof for AS TP s.. Its a rumour only..

Sir, i have told all these things after thorough research and based on facts. Wait n Watch after Diwali (frequency reuse on GSat) and one next 2 years (AS migration or may be new sat from ISRO) u will see the reality

[quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’43601′ dateline=’1446106270′]
Without MPEG4 migration they would have faced bandwidth crunch even with 24 tp’s so both steps were rightly taken and u will see the outcome
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Thats the only alternative they have got .. untill they get new Transponders from New Sat mostly from upcoming Insat Sats..

[quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’43600′ dateline=’1446106193′]
Sir, when they started migration then they had no option. Asiasat or GSat came later in the picture when they drew a plan. In the short period, only Mpeg4 migration was a way out else they would have been stuck unable to add chs.

Regarding 24 tp’s, it is much needed. 12 tp’s will be full in a jiffy as they r adding so many chs specially HD and wait n watch they will add more than 100 chs in next few months including HD and 4K
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Bro.. i am talking about the same time itself.. if there was a option/method of reusing the Transponders then y they didnt used them .. ? the insat 4A still having good life and no such major issues as i know..
demands r never ending .. so every one needs space..

Sir, when they started migration then they had no option. Asiasat or GSat came later in the picture when they drew a plan. In the short period, only Mpeg4 migration was a way out else they would have been stuck unable to add chs.

Regarding 24 tp’s, it is much needed. 12 tp’s will be full in a jiffy as they r adding so many chs specially HD and wait n watch they will add more than 100 chs in next few months including HD and 4K

I have read every threads but nothing prooves .. 🙂
On that note … They would have used the so called reused [nothing like that but assuming] method instead of migrations to MPEG4 by investing thousands of crores .. Even if they get 24 Transponders then too y migrations of MPEG4 ? Surely even if there is a method which can help the space they would have used them.. No such method ..thats y Tatasky migrated to MPEG4..the only alternative .. now they might got GSAT 10 so shifting the channels ..
even i didnt get a solid proof for 24 Transponders from Asiasat..

Very simple. Had u read previous threads then u would have understood.

Earlier- Insat 4A could not take load so they could not use frequency reuse and ISRO had told that they would get GSat as additional sat and not a replacement sat so they waited. Later in 2013 they started MPEG4 migration as they were bein given GSat as replacement sat which they disagreed too.

Right Now- Still i guess they will move to Asiasat and as they have 24 tp’s booked there, till the time they migrate there which would take more than 2 years they will use GSat as ISRO had to give them GSat under contract as back up due to expiry of Insat 4A life

Even if we assume then Still the question remains y they didnt used till now as they 1stly migrated to MPEG4 by investing many crores .. there r many questions arrives .. they might have added many channels years bfore ..

[quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’43570′ dateline=’1446083897′]
Strange, really strange. Amantan bro and Kumar Sir , both of u rr sat experts and still do not know about frequency reuse concept. Request u to search on google about ” frequency reuse in satellitetransponders” instead of poking fun.

I am not interested in increasing post count to increase traffic in this forum, that is a failed technique which other forums have already tried on me
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We know about frequency reuse concept and that is why telling you are getting confused with it. You are talking about Transponder reuse by which you claim that Tata sky can use same transponder for V & H. In this case, Insat or Gsat or AmatanSat are not scarce for frequency. But these satellites don’t have transponders in it, to send more data which Tata Sky or other dth wants.

Now tell how come frequency reuse is = Transponder reuse?

Lets assume transponder reuse is possible in that case why will Tata Sky wait these many years? All the DTH operators would have first reused their same transponder on both H & V and then only would have taken additional TPs right? Why they are not doing that?

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No more discussions. Plz research and then comment
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If i have no doubt then no need search bfore commenting .. for Amatan too the same.. U Know bro.. Amatan knows very much about sat related things.. he is the one who knows better above all of us .. if he confirms then no need to search those google contents.. i am also learned a bit about sat related things from many years.. so thats true what we said..

[quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’43581′ dateline=’1446087586′]
I read it with relation to “KU Band DTH”
I am writing based on my reading and it was me who first told about this in various forums. So the “expert” u r referring to is me 🙂
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No issues bro…
They r related to mobile signals frequency itself .. The word frequency says it all .. There is a lot differance between Frequency and Transponders but so called experts always combine them..and treat as same ..

I am not interested in increasing post count to increase traffic in this forum, that is a failed technique which other forums have already tried on me
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we r not at all intrested in increasing traffic by spamming contents of fights .. we r just sharing here..
BTW that link clearly says >>
[quote]frequency reuse patterns used in GSM network deployment.
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U R mistaken bro.. have u found any thing making fun of u by me or us in any of posts ? i am always ignoring those surely..unless if some one try us to make fun ..
On the reusing Frequency .. see its already said as frequency in ur quote too .. In Ku band no such things of reusing.. there r certain counts of transponders in Sats that is not been changed… yes if any TPs of other beams like they did in Measat for Sun Direct can be changed to another beam if spare Transponder available..
I said the same will be in C Band . u can see the same Frequency in 2 polarities .. like … 3750 V and 3750 H .. most likely people r calling this as Reusing the frequency..

Strange, really strange. Amantan bro and Kumar Sir , both of u rr sat experts and still do not know about frequency reuse concept. Request u to search on google about ” frequency reuse in satellitetransponders” instead of poking fun.

I am not interested in increasing post count to increase traffic in this forum, that is a failed technique which other forums have already tried on me

[quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’43544′ dateline=’1446027489′]
They r using frequency re-use method. So GSat10 has H and V Tp’s now. Even TS cust care is confirming that they have 24 Tp’s and migrated ti GSat in may
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What is frequency reuse you are mentioning? I have heard the same from some other forums were some purported this new theory of finding space in a transponder when there is none!

Nothing like that surely as per my findings.. I never faced such issues during earlier Vertical Transponders testing too.. There r many things will disturb the signals .. if any one part of dish,LNB, Cable, f connectors and others is not perfect then the signals will be effected one way or other.. the most effect is while recieving Both Pol signals.. there might be less effect in single pol signals..

I have made a simple calculation ..thats all .. can u give me any one instance of activating many Transponders for additions by any DTH ? if they activate few then its for migrations or shifting done .. i think this was done by ADTV and Sun Direct while shifting sats..