So there are some people who are ruling stuff out, namely: Biden, WSJ and Poroshenko.

And about 2 hours after the plane was shot down, that filthy evil zionist israyhell launches its latest genocidal wave of blitzkrieg against the people of Gaza.

No surprises for what the BBC gives priority too.

Was MH370 ‘disappeared’ to hyper-sensitize the Malaysian and other peoples to this latest awful fate?I really believe Malaysia’s strings are being pulled and Malaysia with so little experience of the dirty evil of Zionism and it’s chief defenders, the US and UK, that really it’s helpless.

The political implications of this are massive.

Now more than ever does zionism need crushing. I think the only way to do that is to attack it financially. That means people of good conscious must NOT use the financial “services” of western banks and other smart moves like this.

The wording appears at first sight to be open as to what happened to it, BUT look at the very clever wording. It doesn’t say

“Its still not clear ifthe plane WAS shot down but IF it was, who did it?” as almost everyone capable in English language would say. The wording is surely deliberately wrong so so that it pumps out a statement assertion “the plane WAS shot down”

Also, the BBC is playing “conspiracy theorist” because in this case the conspiracy theory fits the establishment. Just imagine ofg a BBC news story said “It’s still not clear if the London bombings on 7/7 were the acts of Muslims. So if it wasn’t them, who was it”.

This is not the first time the BBC peddles conspiracy theories when it suits them but go to great lengths and even involve themselves in reporting conspiracies before they happen (Jane Standley on WTC 7 collapse-cum-takedown)

PETALING JAYA: New allegations that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by militants have surfaced, with a recording of an alleged conversation between Russian military intelligence officers and members of terrorist groups serving as “proof”, a Ukraine English daily reports.

In the conversation allegedly intercepted and released by the Ukraine’s security agency (SBU), a militant notes the plane is “100% civilian”.

The “conversation” translated by Ukraine’sThe Kyiv Post has one Igor Bezler – a commander of the self-styled separatist Donetsk People’s Republic – conversing with someone believed to be a colonel with the Russian Armed Forces, Vasili Geranin.

Bezler says, “We have just shot down a plane,” and Vasili responds “Pilots, where are the pilots?”

Later two militants are heard discussing the attack, with one saying the aircraft “fell apart in the air”.

“We have found the first fatality,” he says later, “a civilian.

“In short, it was a 100% passenger aircraft.”

He notes the debris fell “right into the yards of homes”, and says there was nothing left except bodies, seats, civilian items like “medical stuff, towels, toilet paper”.

The militant later says, “Regarding the plane shot down in the area of Snizhne-Torez. “It’s a civilian one. Fell down near Grabove. There are lots of corpses of women and children. The Cossacks are out there looking at all this.

“They say on TV it’s an AN-26 transport plane, but they say it’s written Malaysia Airlines on the plane. What was it doing on Ukraine’s territory?
A man alleged to be a militant commander responds, “That means they were carrying spies. They shouldn’t be flying. There is a war going on.”

no plane was shot down. just another boring psy-op.Do the photos show anything provable? No Just piles of wreckage from some junkyard no doubt and some undated 9/11Shanksville quality smoke plume. All brought to you by the world’s lying, despicable media.

I can understand why people may believe this is a psy-op but personally I find that very hard to believe. Perhaps the psy-op possibility would be plausible if it was in U(S)Kranian controlled territory. Also the number of people who will now have to pretend it was shot down is enormous. You can bet your life the Russians are heavily monitoring that part of the world and if no plane actually traversed that path, you just know the Russians would say so.

In general, I don’t subscribe to illusory psy-ops, but rather things happen but who was involved, how it happened, why it happened and the implications of it happening are where my default stance lies. I would imagine it is much much easier to do a false flag rather than a psy-op (Gulf of Tonken excepted).

I believe a plane’s been downed (as my friend who will likely mention their missing cabin-crew colleagues will confirm) but who did it and why is the key issue for me. It is interesting to see the Malaysian side of things spinning out… it leans heavily towards the USUK spin that pro-Russian rebels shot it down. Obomber visited Malaysia no so long ago. Since then two 777’s and almost 500 people have gone missing likely killed. It’s possible Obomber came here so that his visit would ‘cover’ up any question of US involvement. I haven’t seen anyone trying to get Russian opinion / commentary on this. Malaysian media is saturated with western ‘outrage’.