This is the opinion (from a speech) of Mas Oyama, maybe the greatest karateka of all the time and the man that challenged everyone from all styles and was never defeated. Refearing here.

and a video:
(after the video)

This is the opinion for the subject. I agree and boost it (greek expression) and i will analyse it in the next article.
(Oyama's text begins)

It seemed weird to me. Does shooting count in for judo? Also, some wrestlers are big but there are also the 60kilo (120ib) that are strong and fast.

I will try to find the dudes 'next article'.

5/19/2010 5:27pm,

Lindz

tl;dr

5/19/2010 5:33pm,

karma2343

For people who don't want to read the whole thing, the excerpt:

"”Before when foreigners met Japanese in their countries, they imagined Judo. However, if you practice Judo you develop a bad figure, you injure you face and scars and your walking becomes very slow. Judo-Ka cannot handle street-fights. I think you have seen Popeye cartoons before, haven’t you? In these stories, Brutus, who has a big body always loses against the little Popeye. In the USA I saw many people like Brutus. They were very powerful and strong, they could even break cola bottles between their arms. If you are caught by this kind of person, you will surely lose, but their movements are slow and in their fighting they always try to catch and hold. Maybe they can work in Pro-wrestling, but they are useless in street fighting."

So basically all Judoka are big, strong, yet slow and unable to fight on the streets because of this.

5/19/2010 5:41pm,

Lindz

MA practitioner thinks their art > other arts news at 11.

5/19/2010 5:44pm,

MMAMickey

that makes absolutely no sense.. I would think the requisite of clothing in public places and the lower emphasis on double leg takedowns would mean judo players should do pretty well, at least as well as wrestlers.. maybe not on the level of _ing _un though

5/19/2010 5:50pm,

DKJr

Ju-don't know what you're talking about..

5/19/2010 6:18pm,

twisted mind

trying to grasp those concepts just caused me to go cross eyed............thanks guys!

5/19/2010 6:24pm,

Brazzzuka

Ju-don't know if I have a gun for the Deadly St33t...

5/19/2010 6:50pm,

Lysol

Quote:

Originally Posted by The fucking "article"

Before when foreigners met Japanese in their countries, they imagined Judo. However, if you practice Judo you develop a bad figure, you injure you face and scars and your walking becomes very slow. Judo-Ka cannot handle street-fights. I think you have seen Popeye cartoons before, havenít you? In these stories, Brutus, who has a big body always loses against the little Popeye. In the USA I saw many people like Brutus. They were very powerful and strong, they could even break cola bottles between their arms. If you are caught by this kind of person, you will surely lose, but their movements are slow and in their fighting they always try to catch and hold. Maybe they can work in Pro-wrestling, but they are useless in street fighting.

Let's take all the logical fallacies present in this argument and build a shelter for the homeless, so this guy's mother will have a place to stay. And his sister, too. I want his mother and his sister out of my place immediately!

5/19/2010 6:51pm,

Matt Phillips

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMAMickey

that makes absolutely no sense.. I would think the requisite of clothing in public places and the lower emphasis on double leg takedowns would mean judo players should do pretty well, at least as well as wrestlers