For the iOS app when you hit the reply button at the top right you will then see a "+" sign at the top right. Click on it and more options will be brought up and you can choose to upload a pic. You can either upload one from your photo album or take a new one. Sometimes it loads slow or I have to try a couple times. Or even upload a 2nd copy and then for some reason the 1st will load and then delete the 2nd. Not sure about Android. If you are using AM through your browser it should be the same as on a desktop.

With your goals in mind cycle number 1. You have to approach those 4 weeks very aggressively with diet and training though.

Yes, i want it all and i want it know . Ok, i also thought of cycle 1. But what is if i dont fear suppression and buy 2 bottles of Mass? Would you run them for 9 caps/day and 6 weeks or stretch the run for 2 more weeks but only 6 caps? When you read the PP Androseries logs all people claim that gains start at week 4/5 and that a 4-week run would be a waste.

Yes, i want it all and i want it know . Ok, i also thought of cycle 1. But what is if i dont fear suppression and buy 2 bottles of Mass? Would you run them for 9 caps/day and 6 weeks or stretch the run for 2 more weeks but only 6 caps? When you read the PP Androseries logs all people claim that gains start at week 4/5 and that a 4-week run would be a waste.

The thing we have seen with the 1-DHEA/4-DHEA predecessors is that they actually lose some effectiveness overtime. The only way to overcome that issue would be to increase the dose at some point during the cycle (usually around week 4-5). You might be best off by running it at 6 caps for 4 weeks, then bumping it up to 9 or more for another couple of weeks. How much do you weigh?

The thing we have seen with the 1-DHEA/4-DHEA predecessors is that they actually lose some effectiveness overtime. The only way to overcome that issue would be to increase the dose at some point during the cycle (usually around week 4-5). You might be best off by running it at 6 caps for 4 weeks, then bumping it up to 9 or more for another couple of weeks. How much do you weigh?

esuch short cycles really? is that just for gaining or would the same hold true for a cut?

i was planning on running 6 bulk 6 mass and 4 AMS 4AD daily...

do you think this would lose its effectiveness in a cut after 4 weeks?

Depends on the individual.

Originally Posted by uubiduu

Thank you for this dosing scheme. Do you think OTC PCT would be sufficient for 2 bottles of Andromass? Or would it be better to go the serm route then?

I'm not really sure for AndroMass....what's in Andromass now? I thought it has changed a few times.

Originally Posted by uubiduu

I think they propose such short cycles

a)to avoid the necessity of a SERM PCT
b)effectiveness of the stuff diminishes after 4-6 weeks because of the enzymes...

Primordial alsways propose 8 week cycles what makes me wonder

Sell more maybe? :P I don't know, but the PH research suggests the begin to lose effectiveness at around 5 weeks. The only way to overcome this is to increase dose, or start with a higher dose (which likely isn't as efficient).

You could get by with OTC. But be fairly aggressive about it and use some good things like a quality AI, and DAA. You may also want to wait about 2-4 days after your last dose of Alpha Mass or Bulk to begin your PCT.

PA says that ALL orals lose this effectiveness after 6 weeks and the paradigm shifts heavily in favor of muscle preservation instead of gaining. Is this what we are talking about? Or are we saying that alphabulk at 6 caps is rendered useless after 5 weeks unless you up the dose? If the latter does that mean that in week7 the first 6 caps are wasted and you only get the effect of 3 caps? Or do you get the same effect from 9 caps as you would have from 6 in week 2?

I have seen primordial logs.. users who stopped at 4 weeks were not happy. Users who stopped at 8 weeks were like holy ****

One guy showed test levels of over 1000ng/dl during his 8 week cycle.. should i not expect this from alphabulk?

PA says that ALL orals lose this effectiveness after 6 weeks and the paradigm shifts heavily in favor of muscle preservation instead of gaining. Is this what we are talking about?

No, it's not.

Or are we saying that alphabulk at 6 caps is rendered useless after 5 weeks unless you up the dose?

We are not saying this either. The answer is not known. We only know what the existing research suggests. Nothing more. Nothing less.

[QUOTE]]If the latter does that mean that in week7 the first 6 caps are wasted and you only get the effect of 3 caps? Or do you get the same effect from 9 caps as you would have from 6 in week 2?[QUOTE]

Yes, no, maybe, probably not, probably yes.

I have seen primordial logs.. users who stopped at 4 weeks were not happy. Users who stopped at 8 weeks were like holy ****

One guy showed test levels of over 1000ng/dl during his 8 week cycle.. should i not expect this from alphabulk?

I don't read the PP logs, so I have no idea. Your expectation should be that Alpha Bulk can maintain 50-100% of your natural testosterone levels, which is more than enough to mitigate side effects and keep your lady happy. Anything in excess of that should be celebrated. Outside of that I'm not comfortable saying that it's equivalent to "x amount of testosterone injections" or whatever it is you're hoping to hear.

i dont understand the short dhea isomer cycles. 4wks and your just starting to see bodycomp changes. i enjoy using these compounds, but i cant see anyone making gains with low dose 4-6wk cycles no matter how you try to overcomplicate the dosing staggering compunds and tapering up and down and all around. on a cut run them at rec dossage the entire lenghth of cycle. on a bulk run them 9-12caps a day for 8-12wks. wtf are you gona gain in 4wks, that you will actually keep. i ran 4dhea+androsterone for 10wks. nothing ever slowed. was great cycle looked better after pct than while on.

Wasnt expecting anything, just know what mentdione can do and wanted to compare.. not to injectable amount but to actual test levels.

Why do you suspect am users prefering 8 week cycles? Same actives you have to wonder what the competition is doing

How is mentdione increasing test exactly? You sure it's not just a metabolite fawking up the test results? This was common with pro-dienelone products all the time.

Originally Posted by pasamoto

i dont understand the short dhea isomer cycles. 4wks and your just starting to see bodycomp changes. i enjoy using these compounds, but i cant see anyone making gains with low dose 4-6wk cycles no matter how you try to overcomplicate the dosing staggering compunds and tapering up and down and all around. on a cut run them at rec dossage the entire lenghth of cycle. on a bulk run them 9-12caps a day for 8-12wks. wtf are you gona gain in 4wks, that you will actually keep. i ran 4dhea+androsterone for 10wks. nothing ever slowed. was great cycle looked better after pct than while on.

That's true for 4 weeks of anything. You think that that tapering up the dose of an anabolic as a cycle length grows is "overcomplicated"?

I'm glad a standard flat dosing scheme worked for you. However I do not recommend that, and my goal is to get these to work for everyone.

I would have to agree with passamoto. Nodoby tapers up and down dbol anavar or tbol.. why should anything else be different?

I have always seen experiences steroid users recommend flat dosing..

I am going to do an honest log for you high dosed and 12 weeks. But i still dont see g
How you plan to compete with pp in the 4dhea market. I even feel the 450mg is low dosed in andromass.. people reporg stellar results with 9 caps.. i will probably run 6-9 caps alphabulk with 4 tabs 4ad rd. 1200mg stano.. and high dose of alpha mass for 4-6 weeks... I may even add a methyl after andromass

I would have to agree with passamoto. Nodoby tapers up and down dbol anavar or tbol.. why should anything else be different?

I have always seen experiences steroid users recommend flat dosing..

I am going to do an honest log for you high dosed and 12 weeks. But i still dont see g
How you plan to compete with pp in the 4dhea market. I even feel the 450mg is low dosed in andromass.. people reporg stellar results with 9 caps.. i will probably run 6-9 caps alphabulk with 4 tabs 4ad rd. 1200mg stano.. and high dose of alpha mass for 4-6 weeks... I may even add a methyl after andromass

Because dbol, anavar, and tbol are not pro hormones. They are steroids, active as is. Experienced AAS users do not use pro hormones because they have access to illegal oral anabolics and do not fear the consequences of purchasing them should they be caught.