Batman shooter already showed classic signs of MKUltra program, now the Wisconsin shooter is also tied to psy-ops. There are reports of 4 shooters in black in Wisconsin, and someone called the...

mrveggieman

08-06-2012, 02:29 PM

Link please.

jessejordan419

08-06-2012, 02:44 PM

It's a mobile article. If you want the link, Google the cbs article title I posted below.

Wickabee

08-06-2012, 02:55 PM

Yeah, why should he let you be lazy when you can let him be lazy. Just because he posted the article doesn't mean he has to prove where it came from or if it even exists anywhere but here. He doesn't have to prove he didn't write that himself and then post it as if it were actual news...

#inbeforethe"ignore"

JustAlex

08-06-2012, 02:55 PM

Both shooters are patsies, as was Oswald and RFK's shooter. These are the stooges used by the CIA to carry out acts designed to bring about legislation necessary to institute the final stages of NWO in America. The repeal of the 2nd amendment is ultimately needed to accomplish the final transition, as American arms must be confiscated to allow this.
You're kidding right?

This is clearly a joke thread, right?

You can't honestly believe this!

pghin08

08-06-2012, 02:59 PM

Yeah the whole JFK, MLK and RFK assassination thing really did a whole lot in regards to gun control in the US.

*censored*

08-06-2012, 03:38 PM

*pat on head*

Get some help, son.

tpeichel

08-06-2012, 03:58 PM

I was skeptical after the first shooting. Now a few weeks later and both shooters were involved with military psycholigical operations? Skepticism should still be the order of the day, but it's not like the military hasn't contemplated mind control.

Okay, here's what I don't understand about some people on here. So the government is too inept to do anything right (like add veggies to school lunches, etc), yet they're shrewd and cunning enough to pull-off mind control? You can't think the federal government is too stupid to do stuff, and then claim they're smart enough to control people's minds. It just doesn't work like that.

Wickabee

08-06-2012, 04:17 PM

Okay, here's what I don't understand about some people on here. So the government is too inept to do anything right (like add veggies to school lunches, etc), yet they're shrewd and cunning enough to pull-off mind control? You can't think the federal government is too stupid to do stuff, and then claim they're smart enough to control people's minds. It just doesn't work like that.

Yes. There's also a segment here and all over the US who simultaneously think America is the greatest nation on Earth AND they've let an outsider take over in Obama.

It's one or the other, guys.

pghin08

08-07-2012, 08:48 AM

Yes. There's also a segment here and all over the US who simultaneously think America is the greatest nation on Earth AND they've let an outsider take over in Obama.

It's one or the other, guys.

I love my country, I just don't understand it all the time.

duane1969

08-07-2012, 09:07 AM

Okay, here's what I don't understand about some people on here. So the government is too inept to do anything right (like add veggies to school lunches, etc), yet they're shrewd and cunning enough to pull-off mind control? You can't think the federal government is too stupid to do stuff, and then claim they're smart enough to control people's minds. It just doesn't work like that.

Not saying this is or isn't a government action, but we have plenty of evidence that it does work like that. Look at the Manson murders, Heaven's Gate, Jonestown...and those brainwashings were accomplished without advanced techniques or psycho-semantic drugs.

I don't think that it is that much of a stretch that a weak-minded person could be manipulated and controlled into killing.

pghin08

08-07-2012, 09:34 AM

Not saying this is or isn't a government action, but we have plenty of evidence that it does work like that. Look at the Manson murders, Heaven's Gate, Jonestown...and those brainwashings were accomplished without advanced techniques or psycho-semantic drugs.

I don't think that it is that much of a stretch that a weak-minded person could be manipulated and controlled into killing.

I'm definitely not saying mind-conrol isn't possible, I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense to think that the government is both incompetent and hyper-competent at the same time. Plus, the motivation (to ban guns) is totally stupid to me, and hasn't come close to being achieved.

tpeichel

08-07-2012, 10:45 AM

I'm definitely not saying mind-conrol isn't possible, I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense to think that the government is both incompetent and hyper-competent at the same time. Plus, the motivation (to ban guns) is totally stupid to me, and hasn't come close to being achieved.

The government is massive with a budget in the trillions. Is it really that hard to believe that a small, well-funded group within the government could work independently to forward an agenda?

pghin08

08-07-2012, 10:50 AM

The government is massive with a budget in the trillions. Is it really that hard to believe that a small, well-funded group within the government could work independently to forward an agenda?

When that agenda is to kill either famous citizens or massive amounts of them in order to try to get guns banned? Yes. And like I said, if by some infinitesimal chance that is the motivation, then it's failed on a massive scale, and has done so for decades.

tpeichel

08-07-2012, 10:59 AM

When that agenda is to kill either famous citizens or massive amounts of them in order to try to get guns banned? Yes. And like I said, if by some infinitesimal chance that is the motivation, then it's failed on a massive scale, and has done so for decades.

I tend to agree with you, but I'm still open to the possibility.

Tivo32

08-07-2012, 11:01 AM

Where's Jason Bourne when we need him?

tpeichel

08-07-2012, 11:07 AM

Operation Northwoods was a series of false-flag (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag) proposals that originated in 1962 within the United States government (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_government), and which the Kennedy administration rejected. [2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods#cite_note-1) The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Intelligence_Agency) (CIA), or other operatives, to commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities and elsewhere. These acts of terrorism were to be blamed on Cuba (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba) in order to create public support for a war against that nation, which had recently become communist under Fidel Castro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fidel_Castro).[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods#cite_note-2) One part of Operation Northwoods was to "develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington."

Operation Northwoods proposals included hijackings and bombings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bomb) followed by the introduction of phony evidence that would implicate the Cuban government. It stated:

"The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere."

Several other proposals were included within Operation Northwoods, including real or simulated actions against various U.S. military (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._military) and civilian targets. The plan was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Chiefs_of_Staff), signed by Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyman_Lemnitzer) and sent to the Secretary of Defense (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_of_Defense). Although part of the U.S. government's Cuban Project (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Project) anti-communist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-communist) initiative, Operation Northwoods was never officially accepted; it was authorized by the Joint Chiefs of Staff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Chiefs_of_Staff), but then rejected by President John F. Kennedy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy).

According to currently released documentation, none of the operations became active under the auspices of the Operation Northwoods proposals.

habsheaven

08-07-2012, 11:11 AM

I tend to agree with you, but I'm still open to the possibility.

I must be missing something here. Are you implying that both Republican and Democratic presidencies are using this well-funded group to promote the same agenda over decades? I thought Republicans were against gun control.

pghin08

08-07-2012, 11:18 AM

Operation Northwoods was a series of false-flag (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag) proposals that originated in 1962 within the United States government (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_government), and which the Kennedy administration rejected. [2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods#cite_note-1) The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Intelligence_Agency) (CIA), or other operatives, to commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities and elsewhere. These acts of terrorism were to be blamed on Cuba (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba) in order to create public support for a war against that nation, which had recently become communist under Fidel Castro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fidel_Castro).[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods#cite_note-2) One part of Operation Northwoods was to "develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington."

Operation Northwoods proposals included hijackings and bombings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bomb) followed by the introduction of phony evidence that would implicate the Cuban government. It stated:

"The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere."

Several other proposals were included within Operation Northwoods, including real or simulated actions against various U.S. military (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._military) and civilian targets. The plan was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Chiefs_of_Staff), signed by Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyman_Lemnitzer) and sent to the Secretary of Defense (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_of_Defense). Although part of the U.S. government's Cuban Project (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Project) anti-communist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-communist) initiative, Operation Northwoods was never officially accepted; it was authorized by the Joint Chiefs of Staff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Chiefs_of_Staff), but then rejected by President John F. Kennedy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy).

According to currently released documentation, none of the operations became active under the auspices of the Operation Northwoods proposals.

People ALWAYS point to Northwoods as a basis for a 9/11 conspiracy.

mrveggieman

08-07-2012, 11:28 AM

I must be missing something here. Are you implying that both Republican and Democratic presidencies are using this well-funded group to promote the same agenda over decades? I thought Republicans were against gun control.

That's what they say they are in order to cater to their voters but on the cool when it's all said and done the ultra rich couldn't give a damn if billy bob on the farm can keep his shot gun or not.

tpeichel

08-07-2012, 11:32 AM

I must be missing something here. Are you implying that both Republican and Democratic presidencies are using this well-funded group to promote the same agenda over decades? I thought Republicans were against gun control.

No, just posting information to show that the government had detailed, high-level false flag plans presented to a sitting President in the past, which only became public 50 years after it occurred. It is not unprecedented so the possibly that the mass shootings were false flag operations should not be dismissed out of hand (though I believe it is most likely a coincidence that both shooters were involved with military psychological operations).

pspstatus

08-07-2012, 05:46 PM

I believe our government is perfectly capable of doing something like this. I believe they are capable of and have done even worse things. But I do think that to say these two attacks were a coordinated effort to outlaw guns for the NWO is just nonsense.

Our guns will never be taken away without a fight. Plain and simple. If guns ever do become outlawed then it will mean there has been a war and we lost.

Wickabee

08-07-2012, 05:51 PM

I believe our government is perfectly capable of doing something like this. I believe they are capable of and have done even worse things. But I do think that to say these two attacks were a coordinated effort to outlaw guns for the NWO is just nonsense.

Our guns will never be taken away without a fight. Plain and simple. If guns ever do become outlawed then it will mean there has been a war and we lost.

I think it's kind of funny that a government who apparently can't even get school lunches right is capable of mind control.

As for guns not going without a fight, no kidding. You have guns, the other side, quite obviously, doesn't. That's going to be a very short fight.

pspstatus

08-07-2012, 11:20 PM

I think it's kind of funny that a government who apparently can't even get school lunches right is capable of mind control.

As for guns not going without a fight, no kidding. You have guns, the other side, quite obviously, doesn't. That's going to be a very short fight.

I never said our government couldn't get school lunches right. Our government is capable of anything that's humanly possible to do, invent, find, and screw up.

I'm not sure what you're getting at with your second sentence. What I meant by my statement was that if the government tried to outlaw guns there would be an uprising. If the end result was guns being outlawed that means we lost.