Not what I meant. I mean why ask in both places when you are a two year member over there? Are you studying Uchi-Ryu? You didn't even mention it.

I studied it briefly many years ago. Its pretty cool. But its just an offshoot of the chinese ancestral animal styles. However. I wouldnt pick a fight with a uechi karateka. I dont know how they would do against boxers/mma

For many years I wasted my life trying to be an afro haitian cuban styled conguero or mandink djembefola. people that excel at this type of music are initiated into african religions and secret societies since the age of, for example 8.. so i have squandered some of my 20s trying to play like them and get initiated into their ceremonies.

So have any white people been initiated into these ceremonies ever?

I mean I like getting high and banging a drum as much as the next guy but I never thought I'd be initiated into the culture.