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russia. ingermany, you are looking at two serious security threats, challenges to european order, with not a lot of clarity at this point on how you deal with them. dan: picking up on walter's point, how big a factor is the russian "threat" to europe in all of this? how much are these european leaders deeply concerned about where russia fits in? >> i think they are deeply concerned. i think we have all been paying attention over the last year to russia's role in potentially destabilizing what we have seen as democracy and a coherent international order in the western hemisphere. i think there is not a politician that is not somewhat amazed by the resurgence in power by that country. i think the u.n. -- i think there's all kinds of discussion about how that is unfolding. dan: and russia meddling in elections in europe? >> the presence of russia on all levels. whether you are talking about cybersecurity -- dan: everything. >> exactly. the real question raised here is we are at an inflection point. i have been thinking with the marshall scholars who benefited from the special relati

russia. in germany, you are looking at two serious security threats, challenges to european order, with not a lot of clarity at this point on how you deal with them. dan: picking up on walter's point, how big a factor is the russian "threat" to europe in all of this? how much are these european leaders deeply concerned about where russia fits in? >> i think they are deeply concerned. i think we have all been paying attention over the last year to russia's role in potentially...

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our continuing coverage of the investigationintorussia'smeddlingin the u.s. presidential election. the senate intelligence committee held its first opening session today. democratic and republican leaders promised a thorough inquiry as doubts them out what happened in the house investigation. meanwhile, the new york times reported two white house officials helped to revive -- provide the chairman of the house committee with reports indicating surveillance of president trump's associates. joining me from capitol hill is senator mark warner. the is the ranking democrat and vice chairman of the senate intelligence committee. have askedt -- chairman richard burr to join the program and hope he will do so soon. let me begin with the question of today's testimony. what is the take away from what you heard today? sen. warner: today's testimony focused on the foundation, what did the russians do, why did they do it. this is part of russian doctrine that goes back to the soviet era of spreading misinformation. they have now taken it to a much more modern space in terms of using cy

our continuing coverage of the investigation into russia's meddling in the u.s. presidential election. the senate intelligence committee held its first opening session today. democratic and republican leaders promised a thorough inquiry as doubts them out what happened in the house investigation. meanwhile, the new york times reported two white house officials helped to revive -- provide the chairman of the house committee with reports indicating surveillance of president trump's associates....

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is the relationshipwithrussiaandvladimir putin stand in your view? david: to me the crucial fact is what does russia have on him? why are we talking about russia so much? russia is a significant country, but it has not dominated american foreign-policy for the last 15 years. suddenly, everything is russia, russia. paul manafort was a guy, formulae a figure in the republican party with strong russia ties. suddenly he becomes chief staff of the trump campaign. how did that happen? bob: and they changed the platform to make it more pro-russia. david: why is russia so dominant? i want to know why. it could be at a time when he was post bankruptcy, he couldn't find anyone to invest, and there were a lot of russian tires. we just don't know because we don't know the tax returns. it's hard to know what the foreign policy toward russia is until we know the source of the of session -- of the obsession with russia. ♪ ♪ bob: who are the moral arbiters within the republican party right now? if the president in your view is de-legitimizing worldviews, who can counter this? one column that

is the relationship with russia and vladimir putin stand in your view? david: to me the crucial fact is what does russia have on him? why are we talking about russia so much? russia is a significant country, but it has not dominated american foreign-policy for the last 15 years. suddenly, everything is russia, russia. paul manafort was a guy, formulae a figure in the republican party with strong russia ties. suddenly he becomes chief staff of the trump campaign. how did that happen? bob: and...

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, sided wikileaks over the c.i.a., in terms ofwhetherrussiawastheft of those democratic emails. roger: do you think he'll still wikileaks after this? do you think he'll say anything? greg: well, he hasn't so far and secretary has been utterly silent on this which i think tells you that the u.s. trying to is really sort out what's happened here, was really caught off guard by this. i don't see any indication yet that the c.i.a. saw this coming had prepared the white house or anyone else. you expect president trump to react? i know he's unpredictable. greg: it's almost in his nature to react to something like this, right? think i do., i how he will react to this is hard to know. is -- the c.i.a. is trump'sby mike pompeo, pick for that job. will trump enjoy seeing the of itssquirm as some most sensitive and valuable espionage tools are exposed? i don't know. roger: how damaging is this to our national security? greg: you know, that's a question we're really trying to sort out. i think that it's -- i think is -- it is significantly damaging but not will, youent that it know, make t

, sided wikileaks over the c.i.a., in terms of whether russia was theft of those democratic emails. roger: do you think he'll still wikileaks after this? do you think he'll say anything? greg: well, he hasn't so far and secretary has been utterly silent on this which i think tells you that the u.s. trying to is really sort out what's happened here, was really caught off guard by this. i don't see any indication yet that the c.i.a. saw this coming had prepared the white house or anyone else. you...

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the administration either. dan: right. i want to come back totherussiapieceof this. one other issue, today the administration, secretary kelly, announced a new order relating to the travel ban. i'm somewhat sympathetic. we can debate the rollout of the initial travel ban, but the argument the initial administration made, that in those countries where individuals are traveling from, you have basically failed states, collapsed vetting processes -- shouldn't there be a case for at least tightening up the process by which we make decisions about who comes in and out of the country? michael: i understand. it took the not so failed state, theck -- iraq, out of order. i would say we have a far better implementation plan, but i disagree with the premise. it's not because these aren't that places. they are. but i do think the campaign rhetoric has gotten ahead of our skis here, and how much a threat this really represents. the second thing is the campaign continually says, and we have no idea who these people are -- that is not true. we do have vetting. let me go out on a limb here and

the administration either. dan: right. i want to come back to the russia piece of this. one other issue, today the administration, secretary kelly, announced a new order relating to the travel ban. i'm somewhat sympathetic. we can debate the rollout of the initial travel ban, but the argument the initial administration made, that in those countries where individuals are traveling from, you have basically failed states, collapsed vetting processes -- shouldn't there be a case for at least...

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russia, bruceghani in italy, erdogan in turkey. now she is dealing with donald trump in the united states. the u.s. is such a major trading partner and ally of the u.s. that she has to figure out how to work with the new american president. i think that is what you saw today whenever she may make of him and it would be wonderful to know what her inside thoughts are, she was going to make this relationship work. she came to washington to try to find common ground. i think the news conference they held together was an illustration of two people literally poles apart on crucial issues. but at least from her perspective, trying very hard to find a way to work together. john: i got the sense that she expressed, suddenly if you will -- subtly if you will, to donald trump that she will take care of this part of the relationship and he can take part of this relationship. she set out domains she thought germany would be better to handle and other aspects of the migrant crisis trump to deal with on his own and that would build into a kind of bifurcated relationship that might function very w

russia, bruce ghani in italy, erdogan in turkey. now she is dealing with donald trump in the united states. the u.s. is such a major trading partner and ally of the u.s. that she has to figure out how to work with the new american president. i think that is what you saw today whenever she may make of him and it would be wonderful to know what her inside thoughts are, she was going to make this relationship work. she came to washington to try to find common ground. i think the news conference...

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sessions recused himself from any investigation intochargesrussiameddledin the 2016 election. this followed new revelations sessions met with the russian investment the u.s. in the lead up to the election. sessions addressed the situation at a news conference late yesterday afternoon. >> i have decided to recuse myself from any existing or future investigation of any matter relating in any way with the campaigns for president of united states. this announcement should not be interpreted as confirmation of the existence of any ofestigation or suggestive the scope of any such investigation. jeff: several top democrats have called for sessions to resign. president trump has remained stoutly behind him. joining us from washington is eric lichtblau and karen tumulty. thank you for joining us. what is next on the sessions' front? is whatnk what is next has been going on along, which is the sort of drip of more and more reports of contacts of people in the president's circle with the russians or russian officials. what is surprising at this point and perhaps it is a reflection of the fact

sessions recused himself from any investigation into charges russia meddled in the 2016 election. this followed new revelations sessions met with the russian investment the u.s. in the lead up to the election. sessions addressed the situation at a news conference late yesterday afternoon. >> i have decided to recuse myself from any existing or future investigation of any matter relating in any way with the campaigns for president of united states. this announcement should not be...

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ongoing investigationintorussia'smeddling,including possible collusion between president russiancampaign and officials. director comey also testified is no evidence support the president's claims that former president obama wiretapped him. lawmakers also heard from nsa director mike rogers. he rejected sean spicer's allegations that the british intelligence agency conducted surveillance of president trump. >> i have been authorized by the department of justice to confirm that the fbi, as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the russian government's efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election. that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the trump campaign and the russian government, and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and russia's efforts. with respect to the president's tweets about alleged wiretapping directed at him by the prior administration, i have no information that supports those tweets. >> did you ever request that your counterparts should wiretapped mr. trump on b

ongoing investigation into russia's meddling, including possible collusion between president russiancampaign and officials. director comey also testified is no evidence support the president's claims that former president obama wiretapped him. lawmakers also heard from nsa director mike rogers. he rejected sean spicer's allegations that the british intelligence agency conducted surveillance of president trump. >> i have been authorized by the department of justice to confirm that the...

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mercurial sort of test australian style man, if you will. she dealt with vladimir putininrussiaandberlusconi in italy, erdogan in turkey, and now donald trump in the u.s. the u.s. and germany are such major trading allies that merkel has to figure out how to work with the new president. i think that's what you saw. him,ver she may make of and it would be wonderful to know what her inside thoughts are, she was going to make this relationship work. she came to washington to try and find common ground. i think the news conference they held was an illustration of two people who are literally holes apart on crucial issues, but at least on her perspective, trying hard to find a way to work together. john: i got the sense that she expects -- expressed subtly the donald trump that she will take care of this part of the relationship, and he can take care of this part. domains thatet out she thought germany was going to be better to handle and that other aspects of the migrant could deal trump with on his own, and that would build into a kind of bifurcated relationship that might function v

mercurial sort of test australian style man, if you will. she dealt with vladimir putin in russia and berlusconi in italy, erdogan in turkey, and now donald trump in the u.s. the u.s. and germany are such major trading allies that merkel has to figure out how to work with the new president. i think that's what you saw. him,ver she may make of and it would be wonderful to know what her inside thoughts are, she was going to make this relationship work. she came to washington to try and find...

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talking to each other. make it a foreign minister of china and foreign ministerofrussiatalkingto each other. in their conversation, they talk about a u.s. person. that is incidental collection on that u.s. person. that is one type. there is another type of incidental collection which is where you have a legitimate foreign intelligence target in a conversation you collect, but in that conversation they are talking to a u.s. person. foreign intelligence target on one end of the phone and a u.s. person on the other end of the phone. that is also considered incidental collection. incidental collection happens all the time. obviously, foreign officials in their conversations are talking about americans. charlie: is that what we think happened with michael flynn? michael: i think michael flynn was the second type. charlie: right, that is what i mean. michael: incidental collection happens all the time. the first question, and there are really three agencies where this happens. it happens at n.s.a. most frequently. it happens with the f.b.i. in their intelligence collections and sometim

talking to each other. make it a foreign minister of china and foreign minister of russia talking to each other. in their conversation, they talk about a u.s. person. that is incidental collection on that u.s. person. that is one type. there is another type of incidental collection which is where you have a legitimate foreign intelligence target in a conversation you collect, but in that conversation they are talking to a u.s. person. foreign intelligence target on one end of the phone and a...

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russia. whereverhe's going, it's hard to make a case there is a more important priority than the nat o. >> we wish we could ask questions. covering the state department is like covering a black box. he brought one reporter on his trip to asia and he's not really communicating with the press at all since the coming secretary of state. -- and: and show is shows no inclination that he feels it necessary. he doesn't feel like it's necessary for him at this time. >> it is somewhat stunning. secretary of state is, communicating a message and talking with reporters, it's unusual. charlie: what is your evaluation of the job he did on his most recent trip to asia? >> there's a lot of chatter in the white house about possible action against north korea or how to handle north korea as it becomes more bellicose in its weapons development. charlie: these are all things he said. >> that rex tillerson talked about. he hasn't been out there in a full way. >> and don't think we have a real fix. what were his meetings really like in beijing? did they make any progress there, or north korea or other ma

russia. wherever he's going, it's hard to make a case there is a more important priority than the nat o. >> we wish we could ask questions. covering the state department is like covering a black box. he brought one reporter on his trip to asia and he's not really communicating with the press at all since the coming secretary of state. -- and: and show is shows no inclination that he feels it necessary. he doesn't feel like it's necessary for him at this time. >> it is somewhat...

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investigation because of concerns about their contactswithrussia. collusion,we know according to 17, 18 intelligence agencies, that russian intelligence services carried out a deliberate effort to disrupt the 2016 election. charlie: the argument is made they have evidence it was intended to benefit one candidate more than the other? steve: step back in american history. tell me where in the first 100 days of a new presidency you've had a situation where the fbi is investigating people close to the president for colluding with a foreign government that is taking hostile action against the united states to affect the outcome of its election. it is been a while since we've had the constitutional scenario like this, nevermind the travel ban, the courts trying to intervene in the president's immigration policy, the president calling them so-called judges. we cannot normalize the situation. this is a real series of departures in our postwar experience. charlie: then there is secretary of state, rex tillerson. you wrote the book about exxon mobil, he is not going to the nato conference, i assu

investigation because of concerns about their contacts with russia. collusion, we know according to 17, 18 intelligence agencies, that russian intelligence services carried out a deliberate effort to disrupt the 2016 election. charlie: the argument is made they have evidence it was intended to benefit one candidate more than the other? steve: step back in american history. tell me where in the first 100 days of a new presidency you've had a situation where the fbi is investigating people close...

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be? >> i do not know. he could beinrussia. whereverhe is going, it is hard to make the case that it is more important then nato. ask questions, but the state department is like a black box. he sees no inclination that it is necessary. he doesn't feel like it is necessary for him, at this time will stop >> -- at this time. >> it is somewhat stunning he has no interest in communicating and talking with reporters. it is unusual. charlie: what did he do in his trip to asia? about actionalk against north korea and how to handle the bellicose north korea. >> these are things he has said. >> these are things he has talked about will stop >> substantively, -- talked about. >> substantively, what were the meetings like in beijing? did he make progress there? normally, you spent time with the chinese and it takes a while before the story emerges. are secretary of state, you need to make sure that you have a good relationship with the president. >> certainly. charlie: this is a big week in washington. we have a confirmation of a supreme court justice and the testimony of the fbi director. w

be? >> i do not know. he could be in russia. wherever he is going, it is hard to make the case that it is more important then nato. ask questions, but the state department is like a black box. he sees no inclination that it is necessary. he doesn't feel like it is necessary for him, at this time will stop >> -- at this time. >> it is somewhat stunning he has no interest in communicating and talking with reporters. it is unusual. charlie: what did he do in his trip to asia?...

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united arab emiratesperrussia. thisconsists of a letter of personal correspondences to his voice forng to find a modern islam in this world. i am pleased to have him at this table. what was the origin of the on?ters to your s >> it goes back to when i was going through a phase of asking many questions and not finding answers in our culture and you couldn't pose them. when i noticed was that the situation had not changed and that the process was happening in my older son and my younger wouldd i decided that i make a best effort to sort of put up a framework to explain how those answers could come about. >> was there a literary example in your mind? that my initial original marks and the version was much longer. they said, you should think about addressing concerns here and i thought that this was everything began read this andd i i am pleased with the way the language has broken down. >> is this the way that you talked to him? >> yes. i think that it is important to explain things in a fairly simple manner and i was taught things and the presentation should be easy. -- >> now, i a

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of congressional intelligence committeesinvestigatingrussiatoview materials found by the national security council after reports officials showed intel committee chair devin nunes information links to trump associates. president trump is shaking up his west wing staff. deputy chief of staff katie walsh is leaving the white house after the house health care repeal failed. she will join a nonprofit group.

of congressional intelligence committees investigating russia to view materials found by the national security council after reports officials showed intel committee chair devin nunes information links to trump associates. president trump is shaking up his west wing staff. deputy chief of staff katie walsh is leaving the white house after the house health care repeal failed. she will join a nonprofit group.

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province in libya. one in afghanistanandrussia. thisis not where they exercise control. but they are still a going concern in terms of international jihadism. people are still lining up to join them. we are finding what looked to be a stray dog -- stray dog attacks are in fact agents of isis being run by someone sitting in raqqa. they are just being run remotely through the internet and being linked up with other people cultivated and recruited. >> what comes next does not look very pretty. michael weiss, thanks so much. ♪ ♪ growers in california and alabama may be worried about the shortage of undocumented immigrants to work airfields. but one group stands to been a fit, the private prison industry. the department of homeland security has been asked by the white house to find 80,000 beds for detainees. that would double its current capacity. as tensions go up, so do the prison industry's profits. here to discuss the what the aggressive new policies mean is the professor that has the research clinic at northwestern university's institute. welcome to the show. let's talk about

province in libya. one in afghanistan and russia. this is not where they exercise control. but they are still a going concern in terms of international jihadism. people are still lining up to join them. we are finding what looked to be a stray dog -- stray dog attacks are in fact agents of isis being run by someone sitting in raqqa. they are just being run remotely through the internet and being linked up with other people cultivated and recruited. >> what comes next does not look very...

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allies. in termsofrussia, itis one of the many areas where it is not that donald trump has controversies he wants to wish away, was the fascinating thing about this 40 days of rollout is that the open question, does donald trump enjoy the hard grind of government and detail? or is that not his comfort zone? that is one of the unanswered questions. >> i think it is clear that the hard ground of governing is not something that he considers his strong suit. last night's address was pretty much a, here is what i want in terms of overarching promises and let's get the details worked out. please come together insensitive magical way. i think david is right. what he has shown over the first few weeks is that is always going to be a mountain with this administration in general. they do not have the -- faration and so for the internal discipline to push these challenges through in the end. like getting anything done needing votes from the democratic side. >> one of the things i heard was donald trump is an interesting entity unto himself. he is not a traditional republican. you hear

allies. in terms of russia, it is one of the many areas where it is not that donald trump has controversies he wants to wish away, was the fascinating thing about this 40 days of rollout is that the open question, does donald trump enjoy the hard grind of government and detail? or is that not his comfort zone? that is one of the unanswered questions. >> i think it is clear that the hard ground of governing is not something that he considers his strong suit. last night's address was...

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, filling in for charlie rose. our guest is the ambassador to emiratestorabrussia. hisnew book is a series of personal correspondences to his older son. it seeks to answer the question of how moderate muslims can find a voice that is true to islam while engaging in the modern world. i am pleased to welcome the ambassador at this table. welcome, sir. >> thank you very much. john: what was the origin to the letters to your son? >> the idea of connecting a set of articles and concepts goes back quite a long way to a time when i was 13, 14, and i was myself going through a phase of asking many different questions and not finding the answers in our culture. there was a sense in which it could not pose those questions. i noticed that when time went by the situation had not changed ,, and i noticed the same process was happening in my older son and also my younger son. i decided if nobody else would have done it, i should make my best effort to sort of put a kind of framework around those questions and try to explain how optimal answers might come about. john: was there any literary exampl

, filling in for charlie rose. our guest is the ambassador to emirates torab russia. his new book is a series of personal correspondences to his older son. it seeks to answer the question of how moderate muslims can find a voice that is true to islam while engaging in the modern world. i am pleased to welcome the ambassador at this table. welcome, sir. >> thank you very much. john: what was the origin to the letters to your son? >> the idea of connecting a set of articles and...