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Finally someone who dont trust the hype and the fake news on this forum
Also this thread is about Goffins racquet, which some find it hard to believe its basically an old Wilson blade in stock form. Lol

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I teach tennis at an academy and have been weighting and matching racquets for the players with the usage of an RDC. The difference a properly weighted racquet makes for a top junior player is immediate and pretty amazing. Depth, directional control, and ability to play offense are impacted right away.

It comes down to this:

Elite pros must customize their racquets to compete at the highest level. There are pros that don't know any better playing around the 1000s (former college players, Operation Liftoff Alex Donski). They are LIMITED by the racquet they use. I've played tennis long enough to see the difference--former division 1 player. Swingweight is the most important factor, and it must must must be at least 335+. Stock racquets are 320s.

The pros do this by getting an MRT, an outside company like Ring Roll or P1, or a representative from their racquet company (i.e. Wilson Pro Room), to add weight under the bumper and in the handle.

It doesn't matter how incredibly fit, or strong, or how good your hand eye coordination is. Stock racquets cap off your level of play at a certain level--for many academy players, that means a big college. The insane talents can make it to around the 1000s with stock racquets. It's simply too difficult to play higher than that level with a stock racquet.

Stock racquets are made with the average consumer in mind and perform as such.

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I teach tennis at an academy and have been weighting and matching racquets for the players with the usage of an RDC. The difference a properly weighted racquet makes for a top junior player is immediate and pretty amazing. Depth, directional control, and ability to play offense are impacted right away.

It comes down to this:

Elite pros must customize their racquets to compete at the highest level. There are pros that don't know any better playing around the 1000s (former college players, Operation Liftoff Alex Donski). They are LIMITED by the racquet they use. I've played tennis long enough to see the difference--former division 1 player. Swingweight is the most important factor, and it must must must be at least 335+. Stock racquets are 320s.

The pros do this by getting an MRT, an outside company like Ring Roll or P1, or a representative from their racquet company (i.e. Wilson Pro Room), to add weight under the bumper and in the handle.

It doesn't matter how incredibly fit, or strong, or how good your hand eye coordination is. Stock racquets cap off your level of play at a certain level--for many academy players, that means a big college. The insane talents can make it to around the 1000s with stock racquets. It's simply too difficult to play higher than that level with a stock racquet.

Stock racquets are made with the average consumer in mind and perform as such.

I agree with everything, except my experience in the retail world leads me to believe it's a bit more nefarious than simply being light for rec players to have easy to use frames. I think they undermine the weight discussion so that they can help "technologies" appear to be worth buying, and actually responsible for performance. Most technologies also coincide with specific weight changes (changing of sweet spot location, changing of twist weight or swing weight, changing of static weight), and the weight changes coincide with most of the marketing claims attached to the "technologies" being sold.

I can come up with several examples of that. And I can find several examples of higher swing weight frames that players don't find difficult to use in the slightest but enjoy quite a lot. I think companies don't want people to understand the effect swing weight really has as it can really hurt the marketability of their products.

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I teach tennis at an academy and have been weighting and matching racquets for the players with the usage of an RDC. The difference a properly weighted racquet makes for a top junior player is immediate and pretty amazing. Depth, directional control, and ability to play offense are impacted right away.

It comes down to this:

Elite pros must customize their racquets to compete at the highest level. There are pros that don't know any better playing around the 1000s (former college players, Operation Liftoff Alex Donski). They are LIMITED by the racquet they use. I've played tennis long enough to see the difference--former division 1 player. Swingweight is the most important factor, and it must must must be at least 335+. Stock racquets are 320s.

The pros do this by getting an MRT, an outside company like Ring Roll or P1, or a representative from their racquet company (i.e. Wilson Pro Room), to add weight under the bumper and in the handle.

It doesn't matter how incredibly fit, or strong, or how good your hand eye coordination is. Stock racquets cap off your level of play at a certain level--for many academy players, that means a big college. The insane talents can make it to around the 1000s with stock racquets. It's simply too difficult to play higher than that level with a stock racquet.

Stock racquets are made with the average consumer in mind and perform as such.

I dont contest your teaching or other capabilities, but this thread is abouit Goffins racquet, who still plays with an normal older type wilson blade without even tuning. Confirmed by dozens but not believed by ranchdresser because it doesnt fit in his theory. Furthermore Thiem used an analtered stock Babolat pure strike which brought him, like Goffin with his light stock frame, to the TOP 10 ATP!
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also why do you call Donski a college player? This Russian player has been top 100 with his Babolat Pure drive roddick.

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You can make jokes about my English which is not my mother tongue, but this obsession with heavy pro stock racquets make a lot of youblind what a talent like Goffin can do with light of the shelf racquets. Now thats funny

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That’s not his current setup. Look at this video from about 1h29. He does say that he tries different weights but not how heavy his racket is. His current setup is 16/19 strings with 23/22kg which isn’t surprising coming from 18/20 at 22/21 ofcourse.

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Well interestingly he’s back to 18x20. It’s unclear whether it’s because he’s made amends to reduce or eliminate his complaints on the arm issue, or to return just for performance/familiararity. Probably a little of both.