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I have posted on this before. I thought maybe it was something new…Richard Two Elk the man who wrote the forward to AMERICAN INDIAN MAFIA also makes videos. This is being put up again for SNAPPLE who runs the THE LEGEND OF PINE RIDGE blog. After watching it again I still have the same opinion….after the video…

I have several problems with this video…Richard Two Elks supposedly owns and produces videos yet he doesn’t know not to wear a hat on camera…indoors either as far as I am concerned. I was raised that it is disrespectful. Another thing that bothers me is that Richard Two Elks never speaks confidently into the camera…he hides his face and is always looking down at a prepared statement he also mumbles and slurs. It was a bizarre video the first time I watched it and still is. Richard Two Elks was at Wounded Knee II he knows who everyone is and the history….I still get names confused…but I can tell you what I know and believe….looking you in the eye confident that I am true to my feelings and in my beliefs based on what I know…But as I said this might be a difference between whites and Indians?? I am not trying to be mean but the video lacks passion and conviction for the subject never mind that I do not agree with all that is in the video….

Because I have read many other things by Richard Two Elk….I have a hard time believing that these are his words…this is how Richard Two Elks usually writes in some weird voice. This is a comment to me for posting the SNAPPLE post on alt.native

so…why da hill ya postin it hear?…

not nuff room onyer Clog, i meanz…blog…?

please refrain from redundant posting of content which may be read
elsewhere, in it’s entirety, IF anyone should want…

Like I said it may be a difference between whites and Indians…but Monica Charles doesn’t speak like that…its weird like he has to create another personality for???

I could be wrong but I was raised in a very conservative home and while I am quite liberal in my political views…I mostly carry quite conservative values and this man really bothers me…

One of the other things that bothers me about Richard Two Elks is that he admits to hanging a man on a cross and beating him…I know he was young but he was never charged by the FBI and speaks of the incident in the forward he wrote(?) to Special Agent Joseph Trimabach’s book AMERICAN INDIAN MAFIA. I am a huge believer that all laws should be for all people….while I may not be happy with the prison system in the United States…I believe that run correctly it should be a place where people are held accountable for their actions…I think it is a necessary step to healing all parties involved.I think that people either rise to the occasion or remain unable to confront the horror of what they have done and thus are never able to be totally free. I do not believe that informers involved in crimes should get lesser sentences than those they have informed on…I do think that it should be a consideration after remorseful behavior and parole is being considered. Richard Two Elk reminds me of someone who is not proud of who he has become.

There are a lot of accusations flung about on alt.native and I try not to pay attention to the ones that are just insults being flung around…there are a lot….one of the accusations being hurled around for awhile was that the “real victims” of Wounded Knees were those whose homes were destroyed and that the occupiers of Wounded Knee should sew blankets. Some write like the people are living in cardboard boxes not with no blankets or food….Wounded Knee seems to be a very emotional and sacred site, there was a movement of Indians who were being repressed by the government State and Federal….they thought quite mistakenly that a group of individuals with a few rifles were a match for for the United States government…and like Japan-they were wrong.

The appropriate response after Wounded Knee would have been for the governor at the time to declare an emergency ask for Federal money in order for the owners to rebuild….if this was not done? Shame should be on our government.

The video is very one sided and while Richard Two Elk claims PBS neglected to tell the death of a black supporter at Wounded Knee.. he fails to mention that he hung someone on a cross and beat them to death…this person has disappeared and apparently he changes his story…AIM took him….the FBI took him…??? This is a man who the FBI has chosen as their spokes person on AIM and Wounded Knee. Further more this video fails to mention the abuse and murder of Indian children on Pine Ridge…a little girls eye was shot out. Houses and cars were routinely shot up….even some of the lawyers for the occupiers were beaten. A young woman named Jancita Eagle Deer was raped by the future Governor…He was disbarred by the tribal courts…but the FBI was so racist against Indians that they did not consider the tribal judge to be legitamate….because he was Indian?? There are so many twists and turns to this story I encourage all of you who are interested to read THE UNQUIET GRAVE by Steve Hendricks. He seems to be unbiased and often criticizes or praises both the FBI and AIM.

The fact of the matter is PBS could do a five part series on Wounded Knee II and never be able to cover all of the finger pointing and accusations. The murder of Anna Mae Aquash alone has more whodunnit theories than CARTERS HAS LIVER PILLS!

My solution to all of this is to either let it drop or to put every single person under sodium penethol or hook them up to lie detector tests…every FBI agent, BIA workers…all of the major characters on Pine Ridge…in AIM…FBI informants…even with all of that peoples faulty memories probably still wouldn’t be enough to find out what really happened.

Richard Two Elk has made a video that describes some things that happened when the AIM attacked the people at Wounded Knee.

I think you should hear his side instead of just listening to a woman who may be closely associated with the people who conspired in some crimes.

I have a number of posts about Two Elk, but you might want to see his new video.

The introduction of the Trimbach’s book is written by Mr. Two Elk. He writes about child abuse and alcoholism in the introduction. This book is based on Indian sources because it is Indians who witnessed the crimes or who were the victims.

I think you are believing the lies that the criminals who killed Indians, FBI agents, and some young women and men at Wounded Knee told.

You write about abuse of women and children, but young women and girls were sexually assaulted and murdered during the take-over.

The lawyer for the AIM, Mark Lane, got money from the KGB. He was also the lawyer for the 900 people at Jonestown who were murdered. Mark Lane says he managed to escape that day. Only a few people weren’t poisoned or shot. Then Mark Lane–the AIMster lawyer who got money from the KGB–wrote a book that claimed the CIA killed those people.

Mark Lane got money from the Soviet KGB to make trouble and to discredit American security agencies like the FBI and CIA. We know this because a KGB archivist defected to the British with many years of notes he took on the documents in the KGB foreign intelligence archives.

Snapple,

You must not have read my posts or comments to James Simon very well. I do not just listen to Monica Charles…she merely suggested a book to read….I have been reading THE UNQUIET GRAVE by Steve Hendricks. I got hung up on the Jancita Eagle Deer story and wrote several posts about her. What do you think about Jancita Eagle Deer? Do you see her as just another lying drunk Indian woman who “got” what she asked for?

I in no way, shape or form support ANYONE who has raped or abused women or children…David Seals has spoken out against AIM leaders who treated women poorly…as has Monica Charles. (look up my posts on Bernard Red Cherries. I have a victims statement from his step daughter on my blog. A fellow blogger was threatened by Autonomous AIM Where is the FBI??) The point is Snapple, you and James Simon unconditionaly support those who who have either ignored or partaken in the abuse of women. As Monica Charles once wrote I see the law enforcement as public servants sworn to uphold the laws of the United States(she just plain mistrusts them). The FBI should have been protecting the rights of Native Americans and not just those of the colonizers.

I am not mired in opinion of one side over the other. I do not blindly support the AIM or the FBI. The only people I blindly support are the victims…and not the ones crying over the loss of their material possesions at Wounded KneeII

My sympathies and prayers go to the children like MaryAnn Little Bear and Jancita Eagle Deer…and the countless others who did not seem to warrant the FBI’s attention in the terms of a thorough investigation. That bothers me more than the Anna Mae Aquash murder…Anna Mae Aquash was a woman who made it to adulthood and made her decision to be involved in activities that may or may not get her killed…she felt that what she was doing was right and good. I do not agree with nor do I condemn her actions…She was caught up in something that became beyond her control. However I do not hold AIM to higher standards than I hold the FBI.The only law enforcement agent that looks to be a hero in all of this is U.S.Marshal Colburn…he’s good looking too!

My concept of my history has been pulled out from under me with this Indian stuff…totally blows me away at 43? My attitudes toward law enforcement and the government has changed considerably not because they made mistakes or did stupid things or even because they plotted to exterminate Indians but because they continue to support the wrong minded thinking in 2009. 2009! ! ! (kind of like the racism we are seeing with the election of Obama) They refuse to recognize, take responsibility and hold accountable those who did not enforce the laws that they were sworn to uphold. AIM was a group of protestors that got out of hand…the FBI is a government agency who only investigated crimes on Pine Ridge and other reservations when it suited their racist, paranoid beliefs.

As for Richard ‘Two Elks….have you ever read alt.native??? This is what the FBI supports??? Seriously???? All any jury would have to read is a copy of him making fun of a woman who was sexually abused by her father that pretty much negates what he claims to be consern and support for Native women. I own a copy of AMERICAN INDIAN MAFIA and I will get around to reading it. But being endorsed by Richard Two Elks and Bill Janklow….you guys are starting off on the wrong foot with me.

I am trying to finish THE UNQUIET GRAVE and it is difficult…they are in Oregon traveling with dynamite….It’s hard to read but this is not something that I can even discuss with you because you are 100 percent in support of genocide. I can’t even get James Simon to acknowledge that the government was stearilizing Indian women in the sixties. His avoidance of the topic makes me believe that he thinks that these were the right actions…that Indian women are less than human. What about you SNAPPLE….do you unconditionally support all actions by the United States???

A few more things why do you hide behind the name SNAPPLE?

Why are the FBI supporters so concerned about Monica Charles sex life? That really bothers me..why is that thrown around? Do you hold women to differnet standards? Is there any proof of her having sex with Dennis Banks? She says she didn’t….and if she did why bring it up like she is a whore? How many women or men have you been with??? Why aren’t the sex lives of the FBI agents under attack or investigated or commented about?

Get that video of Richard Two Elks on youtube and I will put it on my blog and make it a whole post!

Oh and I haven’t heard of any young women being murdered at Wounded Knee….but with all I have been stuffing in my head…did I gloss over it?

This is something that I posted on alt.native. It will probably be my one and only post. I don’t want to argue with people and hope that this is not inflammatory.

After many months of reading alt.native I am submitting a comment. I do it with caution and with the utmost respect towards Runningwolf.

It is ludicrous to suggest that Monica or Guardian( I am no fan of Guardian) had anything to do with the death of Runningwolf’s husband. What and how Runningwolf chooses to vent is her own prerogative…she is in pain,grieving and in mourning. There are many people praying for her and they have only best wishes and healing thoughts for her. I think she has the support of most who have encountered her.

I have never seen any comment from Monica where she encouraged Guardian to go after Runningwolf. What I did see was Monica encouraging her to go after other people at alt.native…I will not get involved in this because there is a history much longer than I have been reading alt.native.(I have learned that lesson) Monica is not responsible for Guardian’s behavior…Guardian is. My personal feelings about Guardian is that she shows her true self by “outing” a harmless old (sorry runningwolf) woman while ignoring an abuser. Guardian for all of her proclamations about Runningwolf attacking a tribal member…who gives a shit? So do I… she doesn’t come after me though… Sal Serbin’s tribal status in no way interferes with my belief that he is wrong in disparaging and lying about Martha Alvarez….nor does Bernard Redcherries! In addition Guardian herself attacked tribal member Martha Alvarez and tribal members Shusli and Eugene Johnson. ..and offered no apologies.(It is best not to feed her and I no longer will.)

What I did see was someone pestering Monica to answer a question that Monica clearly answered by her silence. What Monica believes is not uncommon for many Indians. My own opinions differ but I am not an Indian and do not know what it feels like to be anything but a mutt. (Forgive me Monica) In private e-mails Monica has never had anything negative or derogatory to say about Runningwolf she has only expressed admiration. In fact when I e-mailed Monica to tell her that Runningwolf had come on my blog and apologized to me. Monica quickly wrote back a congratulations. Runningwolf and I have had a good many conversations and I have a developed a deep admiration and respect for her. She is a new friend and I hope that our friendship continues to grow. I speak neither for Monica or Runningwolf.

If people were inclined to kill them selves over posts there would be a lot of dead people from the hatred spread on discussion groups and chat rooms that such hate spreads across the world in a few seconds fascinates and horrifies me. (I have spread it myself and for that I am greatly apologetic. I have written extensive apologies for my own behavior on my blog and luckily put a stop to it rather quickly…although I still get carried away with the FBI)

The problems of depression, alcohol and suicide are very complex issues and some people simply cannot overcome them. Any addiction is a daily struggle..some people refuse 12 step programs, counseling and medication unable to release their pain they hold on to their pain so tightly as if the very act of loosening its grip would end their self identity. It is a hard thing to do… releasing your pain and asking for help. It fucking hurts to release pain..it kills us to hold on to it but for some reason it hurts unbearably to let it go. I release things all of the time and it hurts and hurts as it leaves…it feels good when it has finally passed away but it hurts unbearably on its way out that sometimes I keep it inside where I think I can control it. Of course this control is just an illusion. I consider myself lucky that I am able to imagine an end result and brave enough to make that journey. For many the damage is too much and for whatever reason they are unable to move through it.

Because of the controversy and arguing on alt.native I made the decision not to post…and have at times found it so toxic and myself becoming toxic that I had to ban myself from even reading it for weeks at a time. But there is also so many good people with such good advice. Monica and Runningwolf are forces to be reckoned with…they have their issues but that is between them. Their opinions run strong and deep but not so deep that they can’t change course they certainly haven’t given up on life! For those of you who think that Monica is all about racial hate you should see her facebook page and the multitudes of multiracial friends she has on it…and none of them argue! She does not mind people who disagree with her…we disagree but do it respectfully.. Well maybe if you were gungho and pro FBI she would have a problem…

Contrary to popular belief Runningwolf has been a greater influence on the ANNA MAE posts than Monica has ever been. Monica got the ball rolling but it was James Simon coming on my blog that started the posts. When Runningwolf commented that I was disrespecting a dead woman…I went back and read the posts through her eyes…and saw what she saw and changed the nature of them. Monica never says anything about the posts. Ever. Our relationship is one where like a good stereotypical colonist I ask a ton of questions invade her space and she either ignores me or replies with one sentence!! Then out of the blue will come an eloquent thought provoking e-mail. I emplore her to write more….

Jumpybird has been quite an influence just by being…his grace, respect and humble nature are what I strive for in myself and when I would get caught up on what was happening on alt.native he was the silent reminder of how I really want to be. His absence is a great loss to alt.native. That young man Basenji has the best nutrition advice…Having weight problems the last five years…he has information that makes more sense than most of the crap I have read

Richard, thank you for supporting Martha Alvarez. I have a tremendous amount of respect for my elders but the younger generation fill me with inspiration.

It has occured to me that the majority of people tearing each other apart have been the victims of abuse. I’m not sure if there is anything to that.

I am only now awakening to the History of this country. I think that one of the traits that colonizers naturally have is that we think we are right. We never automatically assume that someone else might be right. Rarely is that the first thing that pops in our heads and we want to win. At all costs. We don’t even want to try to see a problem through our enemies eyes. I see that on alt.native that the people who argue the most do not consider that there might be another way. For a few centuries colonizers have imposed our version of truth and ways on Native Americans (believe me it comes very easy) and I think that it is time to do more listening….When I listen to Monica Charles I hear some one in a lot of pain…but at the same time I hear a song from her heart loud and clear she has definite goals and works tirelessly for her tribe. There have been several references towards Monica about her being an Elder and what Elders do…it seems like another instance of projecting the white image of what an Indian Elder should be…it seems that everyone holds Monica to a higher set of standards than they do themselves. Monica doesn’t fake her emotions….there should be no surprises. As long as I have been reading Monica she has never pretended to be forgiving and loving towards whites. I can deal with that. Also there seems to be a misconception that writing paragraph after paragraph and post after post of hate and then putting a smiley emoticon at the end somehow is more honorable than Monica who comes right out and says what is on her mind in a short sentence or two…. That three pages of hate that does not use the word fuck or bitch or white butt is somehow above a few four letter words??? not in my book. And for white people to turn the screws in an Indian is probably a lot easier than the reverse….whites have had enormous power over Indians for quite sometime. I see a lot of similarities in the way the Vatican treats victims of sexual abuse by their own priests. Do we expect those victims to embrace priests that had nothing to do with the abuse??? No we are all wary of priests or should be.

On a final note why do white people allow themselves to be so disrespected? And on a native group??? Why not start a group somewhere else? Why abuse yourself? Monica does not seem interested in posting on other issues. It seems to be a colonizer issue…for all I know I will incur her wrath for posting this. But then again Monica has never shown me anything but patience…she was not the reason I stayed away from alt.native. I am not native and there was much controversy about whites.

I truly hope that no one thinks that I am being disrespectful or insulting or am out of line. And my apologies in advance for those who believe I am. I just think that I have something to say from the white point of view that isn’t being said. I don’t want to argue with anyone….I don’t like how I feel when I do.

I have been avoiding these posts because of this chapter on Bill Janklow and Jancita Eagle Deer. It’s like I want to crawl out of my skin….turn myself inside out rip my heart out. It drives me crazy.. I wish I could copy and paste this part of the story because I want it to be over…but I have to read and type because I can’t find a good version of what happened.

I wrote the above early yesterday morning and had to quit…the story of Jancita Eagle Deer is so sad and filled with despair…one of the many reasons that Joseph Trimbach and his FBI colleagues should be in jail along with some goons, Bill Janklow, probably half of the United States government…Monica probably thinks it should be more! (finally I made myself laugh this morning)

There seems to be little support or concern for Indian women…the men of AIM beat their chests and congratulate themselves….they seem to be more concerned with a power struggle and prestige…titles. Things the white government has taught. It is the same for all women…we have lost much of the ground during the eight years of the Bush administration…but in America today it seems that Indian women are so strong and the most abused and looked down upon.

I think the two stories have been merging on me as of late…injustice for women continues. You can read more about Anatomy of a Threat on THE ABUSE PAPERS

Strong women

Here is a picture of Jancita Eagle Deer and a link to her story here and here and here.

Other strong and beautiful women I have encountered surrounding this and the issue of abuse are

Martha Alvarez a young woman who speaks with such conviction against her abuser…she has inspired bloggers to confront the issue.

Anna Mae Aquash who through her spirit is working tirelessly as ever.(There are no sites that I know of that are non-biased about Anna Mae Aquash…they all seem to have an agenda. Everyone has an opinion and everyone thinks that they are right. While I am reading The Unquiet Grave, I have formed no opinion on who did it. I do have a strong opinion that the FBI was grossly negligent and incompetent in their duties to American citizens.

Shusli of Spring Thunder blog who was one of the original supporters of Martha Alvarez’s right to speak against her abuser.

Mary Ann Little Bear a little girl who had her eye shot out and the FBI and BIA police couldn’t be bothered to investigate. I truly hope she is doing well now.

I have encountered some good men, the most graceful and humble Jumpybird on alt.native he probably does not know that his example does have a profound effect on some.Then there is brave Eugene Johnson from Pudgy Indian 2….Having a hard time coming up with more will add them later if I can think of any.

Peace to all..

and my prayers to Runningwolf in this difficult time she is experiencing.

Much love to Ordinary Sparrow who is a constant reminder that there is another way.

I must confess that with all of the sorid business surrounding Bernard Red Cherries; I don’t have a high opinion of Indian chiefs. I do not mean to offend anyone especially since I have all of the colonizer guilt weighing upon me. But in my opinion victims rights in any country by any color for any type of abuse by far outweighs the need to “protect” the image of an Indian chief. In fact it seem mighty white to me…sort of like how police officers always cover for one another. Not a damn Indian chief has stood up for what is right and honorable.
This fucking thing goes from Oregon to Montana to Oklahoma and as far as Florida…it involves the groups THE RED BROTHERHOOD, PORTLAND AIM, AND OKLAHOMA AIM….And the only man who has stood for victims rights is Eugene Johnson of PUDGY INDIAN2. And of course cjames who has put up THE ABUSE PAPERS who may or may not be Indian. Seriously what exactly is the point of being an Indian chief or in a group like AIM if you don’t have the courage or don’t know better than to support a young woman courageous enough to tell her story? What is the fucking point of your existence?

There is a Portuguese word for people WHO DON’T EVEN KNOW TO HAVE SHAME ON THEIR FACE!…if only I could remember it!!

Getting back to Indian chiefs…Martha Alvarez wrote a new comment on alt.native

My grandfather is a Chief and claimed by his people, which is more
than I can say about you. He is to be respected; he is a great man,
unlike you! He is the son of Mary Jim, where he gets his title. My
grandmother is Carrie Jim Schuster, his sister, both well know for
their work in bringing down a dam on the Columbia River, which is
still an ongoing project to bring the remaining dams on the Columbia/
Snake River down. My great-grandmother also was one of the main
person’s interviewed for the book “Renegade Tribe: The Palouse Indians
and the Invasion of the Inland Pacific Northwest” By Clifford E.
Trazfer, look it up it’s a good book.As an Indian I think Eugene is a credit to us all for bringing this
forward, it takes a lot of courage to stand against any person in
power. He and his wife Shusli are still taking the heat for this and I
appreciate and respect them greatly, it really is unfair.

You talk about sacredness when you yourself drink and use drugs. I
think a person in a leadership position should set an example and put
their standards higher than anyone else’s. A Chief is a leader of his
people and a person who represents them, so if he is a drunk/addict
what does that say to world about his people. He is misrepreseneting
them. It is only because of people like you we have negative views of
our way of life. The misuse and abuse of your position. Practice what
you preach is the expression that comes to mind.

So how many children do you have? How many of them are still in
contact with you? From my understanding your daughter Lori is in
Mexico, and your son Bernard Redcherries the III is in prison, and
your niece Lori Redcherries doesn’t talk to you, you know why, well
that side of the family for that fact. I know you were not even wanted
at Monica’s funeral. So why would such a great father and leader be so
distant from his own blood? Or not wanted by them?

You once called me obsessive, I think it was, so my thought was you’re
on here a great deal more than I am attacking anyone who lets their
opinion be known. What does that make you, Psychotic? And if you are
this Lisa person, as you have stated, why would you use so many names?
You posted as Lori Redcherries, Eaglewingwomen, Fox, Judy, Wilbur
Hawk, Beverly H., friend of the Redcherries family, all from the same
IP address’ supporting the great Chief Redcherries.
If anyone is laughing it’s us at your expense. This is a war you’re
going to lose eventually.
Martha F. Alvarez

So I did as Martha suggested and I ordered the book off of Amazon but being the poverty stricken person I am I bought the used copy for 1.45. Once again the book is called RENEGADE TRIBE they have more used copies still available!!! I have been wanting to read more about the real history of the state I grew up in….although it sounds like it took place more in Washington. And anyone who has a hand in getting rid of those damn dams is a hero in my book!!! But as a typical colonizer I forget there didn’t used to be states….doh!!!

It better be a good book because I broke my vow that I wouldn’t buy any more books from Amazon until I finished reading 10 more!!!

And here is a National Geographic page that says the Appaloosa horse is named after the Palouse Indians. How cool is that?

And to end this post here is the quote from Martha’s profile:

“I do not want people to be agreeable, as it saves me the trouble of liking them.”