Postby rebnavy1862 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:00 pm Driven, are you sure you are from Kalifornia? You make a lot of sense.Reb"Then call us Rebels if you will, we glory in the name, for bending under unjust laws and swearing faith to an unjust cause, we count as greater shame". Richmond Daily Dispatch May 12 1862Semper Fi, Sic Semper Tyrannis, Remember The Alamo, and Aide'toi et Dieu T'aidera!

Greetings Murby and welcome to APN. First off, A big hat tip to Illini Warrior to his links. I will be down loading these PDFs for days!

Murby did not provide a definition of common chemicals in his OP. As a chemist in the oilfield, my list of common and yours may differ...YUK YUK YUK!

The links you provided are purty good shortform references with a few errors. I have slow download through 6 inches of snow on my satellite antenna ATM so i have only reviewed the first PDF that you linked. A glaring error that i saw was that dextrose was confused with glucose. Both are useful sugars but ARE NOT THE SAME! Particularly if mixing IV solutions. Another caution that i will add is that OTS "chemicals" are not likely to be the same formulation as the same branded products from the 70s or 80s due to proliferation of use in the illicit drug trade, restriction by a fedgov agency for no good reason or too many accidents by stupid people.

I do not know your experience or education but strongly suggest acquiring, at very least, an introductory education in chemistry at the local trade school or Jr college. Knowledge is a powerful thing but a little knowledge is a dangerous tool and a fearful master.

One more thing...just inquiring about about availability of some very useful chemicals can flag you as a ner do well...no matter whether you are preventing a fungus in horse hooves or cooking methamphetamine...same compound...vastly dissipate uses.

pW

“It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change that survives.” Charles DarwinIמנא ,מנא, תקל, ופרסיאלוהים

Pedro wyoming wrote: Knowledge is a powerful thing but a little knowledge is a dangerous tool and a fearful master.

pW

Oooooo.....Me likey.

Thanks for the links Murby

In honor of RebNavy...RIP buddy. You made me smile.

Postby rebnavy1862 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:00 pm Driven, are you sure you are from Kalifornia? You make a lot of sense.Reb"Then call us Rebels if you will, we glory in the name, for bending under unjust laws and swearing faith to an unjust cause, we count as greater shame". Richmond Daily Dispatch May 12 1862Semper Fi, Sic Semper Tyrannis, Remember The Alamo, and Aide'toi et Dieu T'aidera!

Pedro wyoming wrote: Knowledge is a powerful thing but a little knowledge is a dangerous tool and a fearful master.

pW

Oooooo.....Me likey.

Thanks for the links Murby

You're welcome!This all started several years ago.. We're on well water and we get rust stains in the shower. One hot summer day, my wife was busy trying to remove them all.. she tried every store bought product she could find.. all claiming to remove the stains but none worked so well. She was there for two hours scrubbing her rear end off on those shower tiles.

I got to thinking that instead of attacking the problem with manual labor, the mind is mightier than the sword and there had to be a better way.. Then it hit me... In my days of designing metal plating systems, I remember that phosphoric acid turned iron oxide into iron phosphate.. Hmm.. its not like I have a 55 gallon drum of phosphoric acid laying around.. But then I remembered when I was a kid rebuilding my hot rod Z28, I used a product called "Rust Mort" that was pretty much just phosphoric acid.. Sure enough, the local hardware store had it in stock.. (even though it had a different name). Brought it home, mixed it 1 part to 4 parts water, put it in the spray bottle, and it took me less than 5 minutes (and zero elbow grease) to clean the shower spotless.. then the dishwasher.. then the toilets, kitchen sink, laundry sink.. There was barely a rusty water stain left in the house by the time I was done.

And all for a $3 bottle of the stuff that I didn't even use half of.

Knowing what chemicals are in different consumer products can go a long way.. Even better is knowing how to react these products together to make new chemicals..