Santería, also known as Regla de Ocha, La Regla Lucumi or Lukumi,[1][2] is a syncretic religion of West African and Caribbean origin influenced
by Roman Catholic Christianity. en.wikipedia.org...

The Santarians I know are Catholic latinos and from Mexico and Cuba. I knew them through my 1st husband, a musician from Bogota. You meet all kinds
of people married to a traveling Latin musician. Good times, those days.

I wonder if an X-Satanist/warlock/Santarian believes in vampires, 'cuz you know, crosses stave of vampires too! The guy said that he was raised in
Santaria. All the Santarian folk I know are Catholic Christians.

Or by that did you mean that the Roman Catholic Church is like a blood-sucking vampire anti-Christ, and if so that the house of Christ is a house
divided?

I don't think so, that doesn't wash, because the individual relationships that people have with Christ or in some cases perhaps imagine that they have
(you KNOW it though, when you fall in love with Jesus), are each within the sanctity of their own heart and soul, where the real treasure is, and
nothing, not even a religious institution, nor any power or principality, can take that away or misdirect it from the presence and the knowledge of
God, who, if there is a devil, is always one step ahead anyway, in case anyone hasn't noticed, yet.

Blessed are those who find the humor, and the love.

Pretty simple stuff really, an essence, something recieved and shared, eaten and drank with spiritual mouths, and you either have it or you don't, and
don't need it from the hand of a priest if his hiearchy has become corrupted with magic arts and the like.. and it's only an allegory, since Jesus
wanted us to have him in mind when we take communion, and it's in the communion, if there is a power to the RCC, but it's koinonia that Christ
really shares with us, which is an intimate participatory communion, more like a marriage than anything, yet married only to Christ, never
anti-Christ, and Christ of all "people" (trust me he's still a person) I think is quite capable of making the distinction no matter what's taking
place in the bowels of the Vatican in Rome.

See, there it is again, you see he leaves nothing wherever he goes and he goes everywhere and he sees everything and is with God the everlasting and
eternal light and love, the very reason and the purpose (alpha and oemga) of existence as an evolutionary principal of life meeting life. It's SOOOO
much better than what any devil has to offer, who even needs such a choice?!

I was answering your enthusiasm to his dream. Because, in his dream, there was a cross in his hand, and he wondered why. I say that it's no
surprise, as he had been attending a Christian church and it is a familiar symbol in Santaria as well.

OK, sorry. But what'd'ya mean by vampires, what was that about, that these people believe in vampires too, thus negating their belief in Christ as
equally falacious by comparison, or simply an observation, that crosses stave off any percieved spiritual threat.

My point was that from HIS perspective, he was surprised to find himself with a cross in his hand I just thought it was ironic and amuzing that's all.

No freaky satanic stuff.. Nothing out of the orginary. Nothing odd about it and definatly nothing scary. The wost thing Ive encountered in a
Catholic Church was the mothball smell from where our robes were kept. Yuk!

I can believe that today, considering that the Vatican is sitting ontop of the Temple of Cybele and it is still accessible. Human sacrifice was part
of Cybele worship. The Vatican and "St. Peter's Basilica" are just pagan temples that were renamed to "christianize" the pagan faith. In fact every
cathedral in Rome and across Europe were just pagan temples taken over, they didn't destroy them. The Church of the "Holy Sepulchre" is not Christ's
tomb, it is another pagan temple.

Oh dear. Lonewolf, I had respected your posts untill now.

I am no acting Catholic, but your words burden me to be shameful of some Christians.

There was always a profound hatred between christians and catholic christians. To see it continue like this, saddens me. And to actually see you say
that you believe that the pope and priests would actually do something so gruesome based on some lunatics words?

(sigh)

Lonewolf, I thought you better than this, sir.

Thats as silly as saying Jews use the blood of islamic kids to make their cookies.

Seriously? Me thinks everyone needs to step away from ATS a bit and get some sunshine. All this basement writing is getting you youz people.

I am quite against the Catholic church, but this is rediculous. Pure garbage, no truth whatsoever. Holy water is nothing more than water "blessed"
by the priest. The whole idea is stupid enough without making stuff up. Think of how many churches there are in the world, how many bodies would that
requires? Like I said, pure garbage.

classic. You start by admitting being against the church. Then denounce, and state as fact that the op
is wrong. Without any evidence. There is "special" holy water blessed by the pope. So, so far, the story has credance. Churches do just bless
water, but there is "better" "blessed" water. And I noticed at the end you asked, "how many bodies?". Well theres over 7 billion people. And I
havent seen what 7 billion people actually looks like, so I wouldnt notice if even a million went missing. Instead of as

so instead of ignorantly calling something false without any knowledge or proof, or evidence.. Try and prove it wrong. I dnt believe the story. But
im not gonna claim its fake because I dont understand it.. Think

Though I do believe there are Luciferians who practice within the catholic church, and many have advanced to high places, I really think this op is
very exaggerated.

First off, I have read svali's works, and not once does she go into detail such as this, so I would like to see your sources that she wrote this.

Yes , I believe there are sacrifices made in the tombs of the Vatican by the small percentage of Luciferians, but I know for a fact that what the op
says happens, actually does not happen on that scale.

How does one go about proving that the Vatican ISN"T performing human sacrifice? How does one go about proving that the folks of the Vatican follow
a religious rigor that is antipathetic to the religious principles it promotes?

Teenage son : "Mum whatcha reading?"
Me :"It's all about Holy water being made from freshly squeezed human sacrifices son instead of plain old but blessed tap water"
Teenage son : " Tap water...that's a bit of a cheat, I always thought it was the Popes piss"

Sounds like the Fremen on Dune. The water belonged to everyone on that desert planet. When they died, their water was extracted and went into a
holding pool or tank...people were rationed it out. They wore suits that made the water of their body recycle...their sweat, urine, tears (crying was
seen as quite a sensation...what a waste!), all got "purified" and returned to the hydration suit, and the people sipped at it to stay alive.

My God, people.... It doesn't say this is where all holy water comes from! Just the stuff known as "holy water blessed BY THE POPE". I don't think
every church uses that kind, so, LEARN HOW TO READ!!!!!!!!!

Well enlighten me. If every other poor blighter has to make do with tap water and we know what happens with that, (I also pointed out to my son that
he should be thankful I didn't get him baptised as a baby if he thought holy water was Popes piss) then what does the Vatican in crowd do with the
freshly squeezed orang er I mean people. I'm not particularly up on Catholicism and all that.

i couldnt tell ya how to prove it. Which is why you shouldnt claim fact and truth of the matter without backing it up. All you could and should do is
stress doubt. Dont hint just cause ur an enemy of said establishment, that you know whats fact or not about said establishment. Just making a point..
Nothing else.

Is there footage of the line of trucks at the Vatican hauling out all this water and ashes? Manifests for the freight containers shipping it out to
all the Catholic churches? Missing persons reports? If this is happening and has been happening for years you think more than just this person would
have spilled the beans by now. The more people involved in anything the greater the chance of getting caught. I am not buying it.

Hasn't the Catholic church done enough heinous stuff over the years do we really need to make things up to make them look bad? I think they have been
doing a pretty good job all by themselves.

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