Am I the only one who doesn't want the Sox to face the Cubs in the WS?

No. I don't want the Sox to face the Cubs either. Even if we beat the Cubs, we'll hear a ton about is how the poor old lovable Cubbies won the pennant but fell just short.....and no doubt there will be some close or questionable call that people will jump all over as evidence of how the bad old Sox beat the good old lovable Cubs.

Daver

07-16-2008, 05:37 PM

Two teams that finished as also rans in their league will be in the playoffs because Bud Selig felt it necessary to use the wildcard as a shameless ploy to increase revenue.

Cuck the Fubs

07-16-2008, 05:39 PM

Even if the Sox lost to the Cubs.........

Would it matter.

We can just tell them 24 hours post victory to stop living in the past.

asindc

07-16-2008, 08:01 PM

Two teams that finished as also rans in their league will be in the playoffs because Bud Selig felt it necessary to use the wildcard as a shameless ploy to increase revenue.

I like the wild card. I prefer seeing a 2nd place team with a better record than a division winner also get a playoff berth than not. Also, the % of teams making the playoffs now is probably about the same as just before division play started.

Anyway, my predictions:

AL:

East: Boston
Central: SOX
West: LAA
WC: Twins

ALDS:

SOX @ LAA- SOX
Twins @ Boston- Boston

ALCS:

SOX @ Boston- Boston (As much as I hate typing this, I see it this way as of now)

Am I a bad White Sox fan if I don't see the Sox getting past any of those other 3 AL teams in the playoffs?

Remember 2005?

When it came to the "experts".

The Sox weren't going to beat the Carmines.

They weren't going to beat the Angels.

They weren't going to beat the Houston.

But you know what happened.

That being said, it's the All-Star break and it's way too early to make playoff predictions.

For reference, see the 1977 Cubs and Sox, and last year's Mets and Rockies.

Railsplitter

07-16-2008, 08:54 PM

We'll miss a great moment involving a cermonial first pitch be Fox is showing talking pinheads in a studio.

STRETCH!!!

07-16-2008, 11:00 PM

No. I don't want the Sox to face the Cubs either. Even if we beat the Cubs, we'll hear a ton about is how the poor old lovable Cubbies won the pennant but fell just short.....and no doubt there will be some close or questionable call that people will jump all over as evidence of how the bad old Sox beat the good old lovable Cubs.

Sure, there would be some nuts who go overboard and some sad things would happen, but it would be an event like no other. If it only comes around once in every two lifetimes, I want to happen in my lifetime. I think the energy level in the city would be electric and it would be incredibly exciting. 99.999999% of us would survive, no matter what the outcome.

Bring it on!

chisoxfanatic

07-17-2008, 12:58 AM

No. A White Sox-Cubs World Series and the accompanying riots (regardless of who wins) could cost thousands of lives.

Maybe not. But it would get very ugly.
I posted the exact same idea at another board I frequent. A Cubs fan quoted me in agreement.
Sure, there would be some nuts who go overboard and some sad things would happen, but it would be an event like no other. If it only comes around once in every two lifetimes, I want to happen in my lifetime. I think the energy level in the city would be electric and it would be incredibly exciting. 99.999999% of us would survive, no matter what the outcome.

Bring it on!
I could not take that week to week-and-a-half! I STILL get a more uncomfortable feeling when watching Sox/Cubs games than any other games during the season, even post-2005, which gave us the current trump card that we all hold as Sox fans! I'd be able to eat less than the small amounts I was able to right before the '05 World Series! I'm sure a ton of other fans would have similar experiences of uneasy feelings.

My children and grandchildren can experience it...Just let me be six feet under before it happens.

TDog

07-17-2008, 01:51 AM

...

I could not take that week to week-and-a-half! I STILL get a more uncomfortable feeling when watching Sox/Cubs games than any other games during the season, even post-2005, which gave us the current trump card that we all hold as Sox fans! I'd be able to eat less than the small amounts I was able to right before the '05 World Series! I'm sure a ton of other fans would have similar experiences of uneasy feelings.

My children and grandchildren can experience it...Just let me be six feet under before it happens.

In what you quoted, I like the part about how ALMOST everyone would survive.

If the Cubs went to the World Series and won, there would be rioting without question. If the Cubs went to the World Series and lost to the White Sox, there would be rioting, without question. But I don't believe the Cubs will go to the World Series. Something goes wrong. Something always goes wrong. It's not about curses, it's about the fact that getting to the World Series isn't easy.

The only prediction I have, however, is that the Rays will finish no better than third.

chisoxfanatic

07-17-2008, 02:23 AM

If the Cubs went to the World Series and won, there would be rioting without question.
Yep, I can agree with you on that. And, apparently, it's White Sox fans who are savages, even though we had a very well-mannered celebration in 2005 with not a single riot on the "unsafe" south side! :rolleyes:

WSox597

07-17-2008, 07:01 AM

Actually, I'd like to see the White Sox win it all wthout participation by the team 8 miles north.

In the 100th year of their futility, I'd like to see them not even make the playoffs, while the Sox win it all.

That would be so sweet. :D:

pythons007

07-17-2008, 10:39 AM

I actually see the Brewers in the World Series, not the Cubs this year. As for the AL, I want to believe the White Sox are there. However, I believe in jinxes and I will not put them there until they are there.

turners56

07-17-2008, 10:47 AM

Am I a bad White Sox fan if I don't see the Sox getting past any of those other 3 AL teams in the playoffs?

No, just a pessimistic realist.

turners56

07-17-2008, 10:48 AM

I actually see the Brewers in the World Series, not the Cubs this year. As for the AL, I want to believe the White Sox are there. However, I believe in jinxes and I will not put them there until they are there.

Bad bullpens don't get anywhere. Unless the Brewers slug their way to the series (which most likely won't happen), they aren't getting there. With the Mets getting hot, I have a hard time believing that the Brewers can even win the Wild Card now.

turners56

07-17-2008, 10:49 AM

Am I the only one who doesn't want the Sox to face the Cubs in the WS?

I wouldn't want one. The city will go mad.

PaleHoser

07-17-2008, 10:57 AM

My father was a life-long Cub fan. I learned from his pain and became a Sox fan very early in life, much to his chagrin.

But he did leave me with this pearl of wisdom. "Son, it's not a matter of if the Cubs will lose, it's a matter of how."

The Cubs may make the post-season. If they do, they will lose. It's a certain as the sun rising tomorrow.

turners56

07-17-2008, 11:01 AM

My father was a life-long Cub fan. I learned from his pain and became a Sox fan very early in life, much to his chagrin.

But he did leave me with this pearl of wisdom. "Son, it's not a matter of if the Cubs will lose, it's a matter of how."

The Cubs may make the post-season. If they do, they will lose. It's a certain as the sun rising tomorrow.

So, who's to blame this year? It'll be fun to watch. :-).

aryzner

07-17-2008, 11:01 AM

No...just please explain. The Sox have the best pitching of all of them.
I am just so skeptical of this streaky offense that I can't be sure they'll have it at that time. I don't know, it just worries me.

But hey anything can happen and lord knows I'll be rooting for them to go all the way. :smile:

southside rocks

07-17-2008, 11:36 AM

Am I the only one who doesn't want the Sox to face the Cubs in the WS?

You are not alone. I shudder at the very thought of that.

palehozenychicty

07-17-2008, 12:41 PM

Am I the only one who doesn't want the Sox to face the Cubs in the WS?

No.

chaerulez

07-17-2008, 12:46 PM

My father was a life-long Cub fan. I learned from his pain and became a Sox fan very early in life, much to his chagrin.

But he did leave me with this pearl of wisdom. "Son, it's not a matter of if the Cubs will lose, it's a matter of how."

The Cubs may make the post-season. If they do, they will lose. It's a certain as the sun rising tomorrow.

Curses are just an excuse for failure.

The whole lovable loser thing is just a marketing gimmick, don't fall into that trap.

downstairs

07-17-2008, 12:59 PM

ALE: Tampa
ALC: White Sox
ALW: LAA
ALWC: Minnesota

NLE: Philly
NLC: Cubs
NLW: Dodgers
NLWC: Milwaukee

ALCS: White Sox over Minnesota
NLCS: Milwaukee over Cubs

WS: White Sox over Milwaukee

All-midwest playoffs!

It's Time

07-17-2008, 01:12 PM

Even if the Sox lost to the Cubs.........

Would it matter.

We can just tell them 24 hours post victory to stop living in the past.

IMO, any WS champion has bragging rights until the NEXT champion is crowned. After the final out of 05 right until the Cardinals won the WS in 06, bragging rights stayed with the White Sox, as it should with any champion.

flubs. i hate to say it:angry:. i just fear we get inconsistent at some time in the postseason....altho the city of chicago and outlaying suburbs may riot if the ws played the cubs...

Kittle'sNeighbor

07-17-2008, 03:20 PM

AL E: Red Sox
AL C: White Sox
AL W: Angels
AL WC: Yankees

NL E: Mets
NL C: Brewers
NL W: Dodgers
NL WC: Cubs

ALDS:

NYY @ CHW
LAA @ BOS

NLDS:

CHC @ NYM
LAD @ MIL

ALCS:

BOS @ CHW

NLCS:

CHC @ MIL

World Series:

MIL @ CHW

White Sox in 7

:gulp::gulp::gulp::gulp::gulp:

getonbckthr

07-17-2008, 03:30 PM

AL
e- TB
c- CWS
w- LAA
wc- MIN
NL
e- PHI
c- CHC
w- LAD
wc-STL

1st round
CWS over TB
MIN over LAA
CHC over LAD
PHI over STL

ALCS
CWS over MIN
PHI over CHC

World Series
CHW over Philly (thank you all star game)

I would love to see an all-chicago series. 1 of 2 scenarios play out. 1) We are champions 2) we lose to the Cubs and Kenny and Jerry are so irate that the "cheap" moniker is forever lost.

TDog

07-17-2008, 04:15 PM

...

I would love to see an all-chicago series. 1 of 2 scenarios play out. 1) We are champions 2) we lose to the Cubs and Kenny and Jerry are so irate that the "cheap" moniker is forever lost.

If this were 1967, when the Sox hit the All-Star break in first place two games ahead of the Tigers despite a doubleheader loss (after being in first place since May 17, the date in 2008 the Sox would take over first with a win in San Francisco) and the Cubs in second were just 3.5 games behind the Cardinals, I wouldn't mind both the Sox and Cubs finishing first. If you finished first, you went to the World Series. That changed in 1969. If the Cubs and Sox make it to the postseason, the Sox coverage would take on the aura of an afterthought. They would be the "in other news" team in the national media. In the Chicago media, the Sox would only get attention as it pertained to the Cubs. From what I read, that was the way it was in 1906. The media in the city would openly pull for the Cubs because the Sox just won the World Series a few years ago.

Part of what made winning the World Series so great was seeing pictures of the Sox cap atop the Picasso and seeing the buildings in the Chicago skyline light up to root for the Sox.

The big problem with both teams finishing first, which hasn't happened in 102 years, is that even if they do, the chances are that there won't be a city series. While I would love to see the Sox make the World Series and play the team that beat the Cubs in the division or championship series, I wouldn't want to see the Cubs get to the series after the Sox were eliminated. September and October 2005 had so many emotional highs and lows (with the greatest collapse in baseball history that I read about). I can't imagine what it would have been like if the Sox hadn't clinched in Detroit and if they had played every postseason series to the limit.

And I can't imagine the intensity of an October with both the Sox and the Cubs driving toward a World Series. Diehard Cubs fans would have similar problems. It would be great for the casual fan, I guess. Real Chicago baseball fans might not survive.

And on another topic, I am surprised to see so many people predicting the Rays to win the East. That has to reflect wishful thinking more than prognostication.

NLC: Brewers, the Cubs will choke
NLE: Philles
NLW: Giants - I have a feeling that they are this year's Rockies.
WC: Braves - They will have a huge 2nd half.

ALDS:
W.Sox over Yankees
Red Sox over Angels

NLDS:
Phillies over Giants
Braves over Brewers

ALCS:
W.Sox over R.Sox in 6

NLCS:
Braves over Phillies in 7

WS:
White Sox over Braves in 4

ondafarm

07-18-2008, 12:22 PM

ALE - BOS
ALC - CWS
ALW - LAA
WC - TBR

NLE - NYM
NLC - Cubs
NLW - AZ
WC - Milwaukee

ALDS: TBR over LAA, CWS over BOS
ALCS: CWS over TBR

NLDS: Cubs over AZ, NYM over Milwaukee
NLCS: Cubs over NYM

WS: CWS over Cubs

palehozenychicty

07-18-2008, 02:00 PM

ALE - BOS
ALC - CWS
ALW - LAA
WC - TBR

NLE - NYM
NLC - Cubs
NLW - AZ
WC - Milwaukee

ALDS: TBR over LAA, CWS over BOS
ALCS: CWS over TBR

NLDS: Cubs over AZ, NYM over Milwaukee
NLCS: Cubs over NYM

WS: CWS over Cubs

If this happens, then we won't hear from the Cubune and its dorktastic fans for a little while. The dream is too nice! :D:

ondafarm

07-18-2008, 02:19 PM

If this happens, then we won't hear from the Cubune and its dorktastic fans for a little while. The dream is too nice! :D:

Kind of like what happened in Chain Reaction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_Reaction_%28film%29) when the whole south side gets obliterated?

the1tab

07-18-2008, 03:46 PM

I am not saying the Cubs don't have the ability to beat Boston, but I doubt they do it in five games. They're still the Cubs, dammit! :D:

In a 2-3-2 format, I think the Cubs have the ability to beat Boston or anybody else in 5 for the following reasons:

Look at the teams possibly headed to October and tell me one, other than the White Sox, that can survive w/out their DH in the lineup? Boston w/out Ortiz might be the only exception... and that's debatable.

If you are putting the Cubs in the World Series you are also assuming that Rich Harden has stayed healthy and pitched well and Dempster doesn't wake up at some point. That gives the Cubs 3 starting pitchers who can win... which, in a short series and after watching Zambrano embarass Manny in the All Star game and Dempster look really good as well, I think the Cubs could do.

Finally, the Cubs have been nearly impossible to beat at Wrigley this year. If you add up the karma of 100 years plus the way they're playing at Wrigley, it would have to be the same as Cleveland last year - if it goes back to Boston, the Red Sox are winning it.

palehozenychicty

07-18-2008, 04:58 PM

In a 2-3-2 format, I think the Cubs have the ability to beat Boston or anybody else in 5 for the following reasons:

Look at the teams possibly headed to October and tell me one, other than the White Sox, that can survive w/out their DH in the lineup? Boston w/out Ortiz might be the only exception... and that's debatable.

If you are putting the Cubs in the World Series you are also assuming that Rich Harden has stayed healthy and pitched well and Dempster doesn't wake up at some point. That gives the Cubs 3 starting pitchers who can win... which, in a short series and after watching Zambrano embarass Manny in the All Star game and Dempster look really good as well, I think the Cubs could do.

Finally, the Cubs have been nearly impossible to beat at Wrigley this year. If you add up the karma of 100 years plus the way they're playing at Wrigley, it would have to be the same as Cleveland last year - if it goes back to Boston, the Red Sox are winning it.