Also with illumined reticle ? 4 clicks per inch is just to much clicking to keep up with. I love my Nightforce NPR2 I can shoot to 1000 or more and never touch the scope adjustments. I would love to have that, but at less than the 1650.00 it sells for. How is the mil dot is it easy to use as hold over points. I have the Perry systems program and I can run it in mil dots. Just how hard is it to hold 6 7/8 mils for example ? I don't need it for range finding only hold over,

If you want to use Mills for hold over,get the turrets that adjust in .1 of a mill and on the sixth mill and dial the rest....
Why would you count all of the MOA 1/4 clicks anyway..Why not turn the 11 MOA ( instead of counting 44 clicks) and then go from 1/4 to 3/4 MOA and only count 3 clicks

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I've got a NF and wish it had 1/8 moa clicks instead of 1/4 moa clicks. My software is set to show MOA not total clicks and when dialing I just ignore the clicks and count the MOA increments and then worry about the 1/4 moa clicks when I get to the end of the dialing. But.......to each his own. I'd think though, that there would be times at 1000 or more when having to move a minimum of 1 moa would be a pain in the butt. But, I guess whatever makes you happy is what you should have.

That is why it's called .25 MOA scope and it sucks. I want a 1 MOA scope. If you shoot 600 then 7 then 4 then 3, I am stupid so I get lost. Then I have to turn the scope all the way down and count 133 or 33.25 turns still to much counting to get back on zero. M3 Leupold or Nightforce NPR2 is the way to go. How about a list of scopes that have M3 type adjustment meaning 1 MOA per click,

Anyway, I'm not following what your problem is or how you're getting lost. Just dial to the number. Or are you saying once the dial has made more than one full revolution you loose track of which turn it's on? If that's the case a big knob like the EREK or new IOR where you can stay on a single turn might help.