Will, those are great. I actually picked up another 16. I now finally have a tractor just for the tiller to stay on. My other 16 has a 3 point and the 14 I got from Gabriel is still in pieces. This should help a bunch. Seems the belly pan could be made with a sheet metal break. I have a 1/2" thick lift arm I use on my Case' for the sleeve hitch that looks awfully close to the same specs as the massey one. Let's hope so. Save some work.