I picked up a 450 last fall and have yet to mount any optics on it because I just don't know what to do. I'm used to longer range shooting but we've recently switched from shooting prairie dogs to hogs. Where we hunt I'd guess a "long shot" might be 150 yards but that would be pushing it. I do have a couple of Eotechs that I could put one on there, but I think I'd like a little magnification. Would you think a 2 or 2.5 power scope be too much if the shot was closer to 25-30 yards? I don't want to spend the money and mount a scope that isn't as versatile as the rifle but I don't want to mount something that doesn't work for close shots either. Thanks for any help you can offer.

You could easily get away with a 1-4 or 2-7ish range and not have your close shots compromised by too much magnification. I use a 2-7 Redfield on mine. I'm happy with it. Plenty of glass for 150 yard shooting but I can turn down to two power and shoot both eyes open in the brush.

B.

Warriors don't shoot bull's-eyes.

” Blessed are those, who in the face of death, focus on the front sight.”-Col.. Jeff Cooper

I have Leopold CQB 1x4, which is several years old and was very pricey at the time. But I think that any quality red dot in the 1x4 range would be a good choice. The 450 is very good out to 200 yards in my opinion, and with the proper support and practice can reach out to 300 yards. But it really comes into its own in the ranges you expect to encounter.

But when the ranges are close and you're hunting something dangerous (Moose, Bear, Pigs, etc) and it charges, and-and it's got murder on its mine. Low power is the trick.

So far, I like this scope on many fronts.

Here goes...

1). I shoot military High-Power. We use Zero-Mark1x-0 power eyeballs and Iron-Sights at 1000yds.2). This scope is 1-4x. Walk around with it on 1x. Reserving the 4x for judging antler and such.3). The 36 MOA Ghost ring is GREAT for quick kills on close range, from charging dangerous game.4). The 1.8 MOA Dot works well on my 200yd range, for finer work at range.5). Has an MSRP of $150.. Which means you'll pick it up at a discount house for $100 +-?? and comes with rings!!6). Has better than average Glass (optics quality). Actually tremendous Quality.7). Though it uses batteries to light the reticle and it is a lighted reticle with a huge of color schemes available. The battery life is "Tremendous"! Some may look at batteries as a weak link, but I for one don't. Especially with the long battery life and the fact this thing is designed for a spring gun.8). Best of all, the scope and reticle, are designed for Spring Guns (pellet gun). Which, as we all know, are the worst type of guns for reticle survivability, meaning if it survives on a spring gun, then a shoulder fired 20mm ain't no trick! For the uninitiated the spring gun goes pong-pong, in opposing directions, which accounts for the bad effects of torsional stresses, meaning because it springs back and forth, the wear and tear on the reticles, far exceeds what a 450b or any other caliber will inflect on them!

So far, I like this scope allot. There are other features, at are well pronounced on this scope, but these are the main ones. And for dangerous game, and for money, will be hard to beat..

..t

PS..Don't be put-off with a 36MOA ghost ring, especially when something is trying to crawl up your leg and it 10yds away and you need a "QUICK" On-Target shot before it's too late!! ..t