No more DMAA so......

Been out of DMAA for a bit and really missing it but anyway here's a stack of raw materials i was going to stack together as a pre workout stim / fat burner. I've done a bit of research but i would love some opinions as well.

also a good GDA with meals.
iForce has one in the pipeline im excited to see.

While i like the addition of Forskolin and Rasp ketones i think he was just looking for critique on his current plan, not additions.

Hordenine and octopamine are useless IMO and PEA will be short lived. The rest will work but they wont come close to any type of DMAA feel. Have that big cup of coffee and some chocamine with the doses outlined above and i think you will be good.

While i like the addition of Forskolin and Rasp ketones i think he was just looking for critique on his current plan, not additions.

Hordenine and octopamine are useless IMO and PEA will be short lived. The rest will work but they wont come close to any type of DMAA feel. Have that big cup of coffee and some chocamine and i think you will be set.

My thoughts as well hordenine is pretty useless. PEA not worth the dosages you would need and short lived.

While i like the addition of Forskolin and Rasp ketones i think he was just looking for critique on his current plan, not additions.

Hordenine and octopamine are useless IMO and PEA will be short lived. The rest will work but they wont come close to any type of DMAA feel. Have that big cup of coffee and some chocamine with the doses outlined above and i think you will be good.

Acacia I agree does absolutely nothing. Dendrobium did a bit in addition to other stims, but again not anywhere near what DMAA is.

Never used Isopropyloctomine in isolation. Worth a shot? I need to grab more MethylSynephrine while I still can.

Yeah isopropyloctopamine hits hard (but its not compliant). Right now, the best alternative IMO is a stimulant blend that uses additive or synergistic pathways. Two that come to mind are that in Enhanced/Alphamine or Dexaprine/Conquer