when I’m asking you to listen to me
and you start giving me advice
then you’re not doing what I’m asking you to

when I’m asking you to listen to me
and you tell me
why I shouldn’t feel this way
when I feel this way
then you’re not taking my feelings seriously

when I’m asking you to listen to me
and you think you need to do something
to solve my problems
then you’re really letting me down
how ever strange this might be

maybe that’s why
for some people, praying works, or being out in nature
because God or nature
don’t give you advice
or try to make things work for you
they just listen and trust that you’ll manage on your own

so please, just listen to me
and try to understand me

and if you want to say something
wait a minute/ a little and i promise you
in return, I’ll listen to you…

Reflections last movie night

– discussion was great

– some people said they would like to come again and participate in planning meetings

Updates on Occupation

– new army tents are pretty strong, even against the extreme weather

– bought 4 tents themselves, 2 more are donated

– can all have discussions there at camp

– stable number of participants, but more tents – one specifically for information

– ‘information phase rather than sleeping phase’

– Wednesday GA will decide on a proposal for Sunday 2-4pm coffee for neighborhood – writing letter to build community – the more people come, the better

***Birthe to announce on fb after decision on Wednesday GA

– have the big tent prepared

– have translation possibilities

Next Movie Night

Friday, Dec 16 – 8pm

> movie: Inside Job, discussion afterwards

– Rob made proposal to Gemeente Groningen – with access to Beamer and Projection

– for 100 euros or less

– keep option for next events (Post-pone until January)

– Birthe to ask Eddie for room for this Friday

// alternative: Han will ask the hospital squat for possible use of the movie theatre

– Maria to do flyers

Christmas Break

-postponed for discussion on Tuesday

Proposal from Rob

– form working groups to investigate certain things about the crisis

– Real Democracy has something like that already, let’s join forces

Proposal from RD

– have meeting together, after coming back in January

– discuss further on Tuesday

Google groups

– need people to respond to emails!

– re-activating the ‘main-occupy-mailing-list’ for general occupy info, agendas and minutes