Red Bull RB9 Launch

Are we going to see some pictures of the real car instead of the current anti RB glory fest?

you're talking as if the users here have a responsibility towards you to post some pictures. there are but a couple of pictures released by red bull, for whatever reason, paranoia or being secretive, that's it. journalists were forbidden as much as possible to take photos of the car.

What rubbish, those affiliated with the Ferrari, McLaren and Williams fan base thought RBR was a cool team considering they didn't let people of Jaguar fall to the kerb. It all changed when they started winning, which has nothing to do with the team but more to do with Tall Poppy's.

People who really appreciate Redbull probabably don't hang out here anyway plenty of better more informed forums without the demographic bias and the Lewis worship rubbish.

In what way can an expression of my own opinion be rubbish? I disliked Red Bull, tried to move past that, they pulled this 'launch', I am confirmed in my opinion that I intensely dislike the way they go about doing things and hence will continue to root for the silver cars, the Lotuses,the underdogs and even the red cars ahead of them. This 'launch' wasted my time and that of many journalists. You ate quite right red bull aren't obliged to show off their IP, but this launch stunk and i think deep down you know that?

Re: suggesting all Red Bull fans were glory hunters - apologies, I expressed myself poorly, I'd like to amend that to say some very deserving long term fans and a larger number of Johnny come latelies.

In what way can an expression of my own opinion be rubbish? I disliked Red Bull, tried to move past that, they pulled this 'launch', I am confirmed in my opinion that I intensely dislike the way they go about doing things and hence will continue to root for the silver cars, the Lotuses,the underdogs and even the red cars ahead of them. This 'launch' wasted my time and that of many journalists. You ate quite right red bull aren't obliged to show off their IP, but this launch stunk and i think deep down you know that?

Re: suggesting all Red Bull fans were glory hunters - apologies, I expressed myself poorly, I'd like to amend that to say some very deserving long term fans and a larger number of Johnny come latelies.

I actually went to the launch and enjoyed it. Grow up and get past your Lewis worship. I agree with the previous poster, for an RB fan this forum is getting horrific. Even PlanetF1 is better.

Err no, it was his immediate suggestion of rooting for the 'silver' cars first, ahead of RB, of which lewis has driven for both. Please read posts in future. Red bull has nothing to blame anyone for, the launch went well. I know, I was there, unlike you.

Err no, it was his immediate suggestion of rooting for the 'silver' cars first, ahead of RB, of which lewis has driven for both. Please read posts in future. Red bull has nothing to blame anyone for, the launch went well. I know, I was there, unlike you.

Did you even read what I wrote? Absolute hypocrite. I never implied everyone, JUST YOU. Remind me again why them having technical difficulties makes you dislike them?

1. Get over the Lewis thing, it won't stick to me.2. When I wrote the comments I was not aware of the tech difficulties. I stick to my opinion, however, as some journos were clearly upset and clearly the launch did stink if you were trying to watch at home.

On the subject of the car i quiet like the livery, if it was all that pearlescent purple colour i think it'd look great but its still looks alright. The backend is extremely small, i wonder if they shrank the gearbox ala the Williams FW33 because there's nothing there!

On the subject of the car i quiet like the livery, if it was all that pearlescent purple colour i think it'd look great but its still looks alright. The backend is extremely small, i wonder if they shrank the gearbox ala the Williams FW33 because there's nothing there!

Could they move it elswhere, more towards the engine, or would that present too many difficulties

On the subject of the car i quiet like the livery, if it was all that pearlescent purple colour i think it'd look great but its still looks alright. The backend is extremely small, i wonder if they shrank the gearbox ala the Williams FW33 because there's nothing there!

Note sure why, but I think there is bodywork missing around the gearbox, its been darkened down in the photos to hide this. The gearbox area of the floor looks messy and very non-newey.

Bar a few minor tweaks the car is clearly a carry over from the RB8 but then every Red Bull car since 09's RB5 has been an evolution. Here's my technical analysis - http://somersf1.blog...-rb9-lauch.html

Could they move it elswhere, more towards the engine, or would that present too many difficulties

I'm not an engineer but I don't see how they would do that.Now there are some photos, I am just blown away by that rear end. The Williams gearbox was very, very small. This one just isn't there. Staggering. Till just now I thought McClaren were favourites for 2013. Now I must revise my opinion.

Err no, it was his immediate suggestion of rooting for the 'silver' cars first, ahead of RB, of which lewis has driven for both. Please read posts in future. Red bull has nothing to blame anyone for, the launch went well. I know, I was there, unlike you.

So given the studio lighting how do you think the thing will look in ambient light?

Now that there are images doing the rounds, looks very much like a refined RB8 - something odd going on at the rear around the gearbox however. The sidepods aren't as narrow as some here seem to think, they flare out quite a lot after the initial raditor inlets, its quite deceptive.

Its very pretty, and the colour is great, not quite the huge leap visually that the RB6, RB7 and RB8 were however - perhaps the long running championship last year took some work away from this car as seems to have been the case with this years Ferrari.

Bar a few minor tweaks the car is clearly a carry over from the RB8 but then every Red Bull car since 09's RB5 has been an evolution. Here's my technical analysis - http://somersf1.blog...-rb9-lauch.html

Because they aren't really a drinks company, they are a marketing company foremost, and they are really, really good at it.

That's true. I wish McLaren, Ferrari, and others did more videos like this, they can afford to. Maybe FOM should set aside a small budget to do things like this - should help tremendously with engaging new fans, especially if the quality is this good. Show this video to Mechanical Engineering undergraduates and we'll have a whole new set of F1 fans on board.

rb are just the masters of creating tight asses, why ferrari and mclaren can not do them like that, car looks amazing as always, just hope its not to fast

A Red Bull packaged gearbox/diffuser doesn't work unless the air hitting it is worked in a certain way. So, in order to make such a design work, first you have to understand why it works, and secondly work the air leading up to it in the same fashion Red Bull does. Not a simple task. Also, the engine/fuel cell/gearbox Red Bull use differs to McLaren and Ferrari. This allows them a shorter car, narrower sidepods and a great angle of waisting leading up to the gearbox.

That's true. I wish McLaren, Ferrari, and others did more videos like this, they can afford to. Maybe FOM should set aside a small budget to do things like this - should help tremendously with engaging new fans, especially if the quality is this good. Show this video to Mechanical Engineering undergraduates and we'll have a whole new set of F1 fans on board.

I don't know about Ferrari but Mclaren do a little more than produce a slick video when it comes to getting young folks interested in engineering -