I didn't say being rich, just that empty pursuit of fame/popularity. Your life is in such dissection, it's impossible to be normal.

I can agree with you when it comes to folks like Kim K and the "real housewives," et al. But Johannson is a very talented actress, at least in my opinion. She does have talent and skill, so I wouldn't call her career an "empty pursuit of fame/popularity."

She was married already; she feels this way now and I find nothing wrong with her expression of her experience. Marriage is great for some, and awful for others (Ric Romero moment).

I didn't say being rich, just that empty pursuit of fame/popularity. Your life is in such dissection, it's impossible to be normal.

I can agree with you when it comes to folks like Kim K and the "real housewives," et al. But Johannson is a very talented actress, at least in my opinion. She does have talent and skill, so I wouldn't call her career an "empty pursuit of fame/popularity."

She was married already; she feels this way now and I find nothing wrong with her expression of her experience. Marriage is great for some, and awful for others (Ric Romero moment).

I guess that's true actually, SJ isn't one of the airheads that's for sure.

Just the thought of being so in the spotlight makes me shudder. I just can't imagine someone wanting to do that. Money I guess.

HotIgneous Intruder:She's pretty much an uneducated person.That's fine for a while, but would grow thin after a time.

Example:Me: "Kurt Vonnegut died."Her: "Who's that?"

/This actually happened to me.

While I've enjoyed Vonnegut, principally Cat's Cradle, I'm not so sure that's a big deal. What is the relevence of being well read when so much of our culture is spread across so many forms of other media. Is a familiarity with Vonnegut so much more valuable than a familiarity with surrealists like Breton? It's closer in time, but is the expression of the post WWII/cold war culture that much more valuable than the post WWI expressions. There are so many good things to experience, it's hard for me to think less of a person for missing one. It's an artifact of the rich period we had the good fortune to be born in. Sure, it's a reason to be suspicious of a librarian, but the pedegree or character of a movie star?

Are most men honestly this opposed to marriage? From what I can tell, a man's quality of life is generally greatly enhanced by marriage (assuming it's a happy one). Women these days tend to have more education than their male counterparts, and while we certainly don't earn money on par with men, why on Earth do men think that women are trying to "trap" them into marriage, only to take half "their" stuff? In many marriages, it's still the women who do the heavy lifting; working, the physical toll of pregnancy and childbirth, child-rearing, keeping the household running and maintaining the family's social connections. Frankly, it's often women who get the short end of the stick, so to speak.

A fantastic NSA fark is really not that hard to come by for nearly any woman...if Scarlett Johansson had said (contrary to her publicist's advice) that she really hoped to get married and have a family, would she suddenly become that much less appealing to men? I swear, sometimes you guys are so easily played.

Tickle Mittens:HotIgneous Intruder: She's pretty much an uneducated person.That's fine for a while, but would grow thin after a time.

Example:Me: "Kurt Vonnegut died."Her: "Who's that?"

/This actually happened to me.

While I've enjoyed Vonnegut, principally Cat's Cradle, I'm not so sure that's a big deal. What is the relevence of being well read when so much of our culture is spread across so many forms of other media. Is a familiarity with Vonnegut so much more valuable than a familiarity with surrealists like Breton? It's closer in time, but is the expression of the post WWII/cold war culture that much more valuable than the post WWI expressions. There are so many good things to experience, it's hard for me to think less of a person for missing one. It's an artifact of the rich period we had the good fortune to be born in. Sure, it's a reason to be suspicious of a librarian, but the pedegree or character of a movie star?

NateAsbestos:Tickle Mittens: HotIgneous Intruder: She's pretty much an uneducated person.That's fine for a while, but would grow thin after a time.

Example:Me: "Kurt Vonnegut died."Her: "Who's that?"

/This actually happened to me.

While I've enjoyed Vonnegut, principally Cat's Cradle, I'm not so sure that's a big deal. What is the relevence of being well read when so much of our culture is spread across so many forms of other media. Is a familiarity with Vonnegut so much more valuable than a familiarity with surrealists like Breton? It's closer in time, but is the expression of the post WWII/cold war culture that much more valuable than the post WWI expressions. There are so many good things to experience, it's hard for me to think less of a person for missing one. It's an artifact of the rich period we had the good fortune to be born in. Sure, it's a reason to be suspicious of a librarian, but the pedegree or character of a movie star?

mmagdalene:Are most men honestly this opposed to marriage? From what I can tell, a man's quality of life is generally greatly enhanced by marriage (assuming it's a happy one). Women these days tend to have more education than their male counterparts, and while we certainly don't earn money on par with men, why on Earth do men think that women are trying to "trap" them into marriage, only to take half "their" stuff? In many marriages, it's still the women who do the heavy lifting; working, the physical toll of pregnancy and childbirth, child-rearing, keeping the household running and maintaining the family's social connections. Frankly, it's often women who get the short end of the stick, so to speak.

A fantastic NSA fark is really not that hard to come by for nearly any woman...if Scarlett Johansson had said (contrary to her publicist's advice) that she really hoped to get married and have a family, would she suddenly become that much less appealing to men? I swear, sometimes you guys are so easily played.

I don't go into relationships with a ticking clock that provides a timetable for relationship growth.

Many women seem to.

Make any excuse or justifications (or denial) you like, but that is my experience.

mmagdalene:Are most men honestly this opposed to marriage? From what I can tell, a man's quality of life is generally greatly enhanced by marriage (assuming it's a happy one). Women these days tend to have more education than their male counterparts, and while we certainly don't earn money on par with men, why on Earth do men think that women are trying to "trap" them into marriage, only to take half "their" stuff? In many marriages, it's still the women who do the heavy lifting; working, the physical toll of pregnancy and childbirth, child-rearing, keeping the household running and maintaining the family's social connections. Frankly, it's often women who get the short end of the stick, so to speak.

A fantastic NSA fark is really not that hard to come by for nearly any woman...if Scarlett Johansson had said (contrary to her publicist's advice) that she really hoped to get married and have a family, would she suddenly become that much less appealing to men? I swear, sometimes you guys are so easily played.

Generally speaking, not getting married means a man has more freedom (no wife or kids to worry about), plenty of opportunity for sex, more money to spend on themselves, and more time to hang out with friends.

Smackledorfer:mmagdalene: Are most men honestly this opposed to marriage? From what I can tell, a man's quality of life is generally greatly enhanced by marriage (assuming it's a happy one). Women these days tend to have more education than their male counterparts, and while we certainly don't earn money on par with men, why on Earth do men think that women are trying to "trap" them into marriage, only to take half "their" stuff? In many marriages, it's still the women who do the heavy lifting; working, the physical toll of pregnancy and childbirth, child-rearing, keeping the household running and maintaining the family's social connections. Frankly, it's often women who get the short end of the stick, so to speak.

A fantastic NSA fark is really not that hard to come by for nearly any woman...if Scarlett Johansson had said (contrary to her publicist's advice) that she really hoped to get married and have a family, would she suddenly become that much less appealing to men? I swear, sometimes you guys are so easily played.

I don't go into relationships with a ticking clock that provides a timetable for relationship growth.

Many women seem to.

Make any excuse or justifications (or denial) you like, but that is my experience.

Shame, that over 1 in 2 marriages ends in a messy divorce within a short time.

mmagdalene:Are most men honestly this opposed to marriage? From what I can tell, a man's quality of life is generally greatly enhanced by marriage (assuming it's a happy one). Women these days tend to have more education than their male counterparts, and while we certainly don't earn money on par with men, why on Earth do men think that women are trying to "trap" them into marriage, only to take half "their" stuff?

If I were to venture a guess... it's because men are typically content with simply cohabiting, while women feel a relationship should be "going somewhere". Many women I've been with were overly concerned about what label the relationship had while I was still just getting used to the idea of them being around all the time.

mmagdalene:Are most men honestly this opposed to marriage? From what I can tell, a man's quality of life is generally greatly enhanced by marriage (assuming it's a happy one). Women these days tend to have more education than their male counterparts, and while we certainly don't earn money on par with men, why on Earth do men think that women are trying to "trap" them into marriage, only to take half "their" stuff? In many marriages, it's still the women who do the heavy lifting; working, the physical toll of pregnancy and childbirth, child-rearing, keeping the household running and maintaining the family's social connections. Frankly, it's often women who get the short end of the stick, so to speak.

A fantastic NSA fark is really not that hard to come by for nearly any woman...if Scarlett Johansson had said (contrary to her publicist's advice) that she really hoped to get married and have a family, would she suddenly become that much less appealing to men? I swear, sometimes you guys are so easily played.

There's just no real purpose for making a relationship legally binding. It's a useless construct.

Tickle Mittens:NateAsbestos: As a huge Vonnegut fan.... what the hell is wrong with you people?

Tits? No, GTFO. Anne Hathaway, Jennifer Connelly, they may stay. If Scarlett wishes to be taken seriously, she knows what to do. Get naked; crying optional.

I watched 'Love and Other Drugs' in the other night and Hathaway is SERIOUSLY nekkid in it; funny that after showing 90% of her bod in a movie that she would get upset having a pic of a few pubes snapped, especially considering she was going out in public to an event where she HAD TO KNOW that the scuzzie papparazzi would be intentionally trying to get such pictures.

NetOwl:Some people actually like the idea of falling in love with someone and sharing a lifetime of memories and family.

You'll understand when you're 30. If not, I feel sorry for you.

I'm 27 and married to a lovely woman with two great kids. I'm content. I also harbor no delusions that I wouldn't run around in a hedonistic frenzy if I had the money/power to pull it off. My wife's cool, she'd probably come along for the ride. Honestly, I hope that epiphany hits within the next three years because the settled life is terribly dull. Not unhappy, just kind of boring.

HotIgneous Intruder:She's pretty much an uneducated person.That's fine for a while, but would grow thin after a time.

Example:Me: "Kurt Vonnegut died."Her: "Who's that?"

/This actually happened to me.

Not sure knowing about Kurt Vonnegut is a litmus test for education, but I will one-up you...

I went to a respected private college with supposedly high academic standards. In our senior year attended a "Capstone" course which was intended to, well, capstone/complete your education. The class I chose was Courage and Evil in the 20th Century which unsurprisingly spent a good deal of time on Nazi Germany. There were several coeds in the class who had never even heard of the Holocaust.

At this point in my life, I'm set in my ways. No children, no boyfriend, no husband. I do what I want, when I want. Sure it would be nice to have someone along for the ride, but I'm not going to sit idle waiting for them. Men I've been running into have a problem with that. Whatever, move along.

Occam's Disposable Razor:NetOwl: Some people actually like the idea of falling in love with someone and sharing a lifetime of memories and family.

You'll understand when you're 30. If not, I feel sorry for you.

I'm 27 and married to a lovely woman with two great kids. I'm content. I also harbor no delusions that I wouldn't run around in a hedonistic frenzy if I had the money/power to pull it off. My wife's cool, she'd probably come along for the ride. Honestly, I hope that epiphany hits within the next three years because the settled life is terribly dull. Not unhappy, just kind of boring.

You should try swinging. And by swinging, fark other married people. Tell your wife to get a boyfriend, a boy toy. Tell her to get wild and crazy. Then fark her boyfriends wife. In the ass.

I'm sorry to disappoint you Miss Johansson, but I am saving myself for marriage. Sure we could have hot tawdry sex lasting hours or days even and you could even invite other actresses like Kate Mara, Jessica Alba, Jessica Biel or some Supermodels like Gisele Bündchen, Heidi Klum or Kate Upton for a hot three, four or more some. But what would that get us beyond massive physical ecstasy and a sweat soaked bed; I'll tell you what marriage less sex with hot actress gets you, nothing and defiantly not me. So maybe you need to think about the value of marriage a bit more before you come to my house.

cheap_thoughts:Occam's Disposable Razor: NetOwl: Some people actually like the idea of falling in love with someone and sharing a lifetime of memories and family.

You'll understand when you're 30. If not, I feel sorry for you.

I'm 27 and married to a lovely woman with two great kids. I'm content. I also harbor no delusions that I wouldn't run around in a hedonistic frenzy if I had the money/power to pull it off. My wife's cool, she'd probably come along for the ride. Honestly, I hope that epiphany hits within the next three years because the settled life is terribly dull. Not unhappy, just kind of boring.

You should try swinging. And by swinging, fark other married people. Tell your wife to get a boyfriend, a boy toy. Tell her to get wild and crazy. Then fark her boyfriends wife. In the ass.

She's more into girls, but fears losing me to one. We've tried that, got kind of ugly. It's also different now with the kids and a job that's supposed to be respected in the community, in a deeply religious part of the country. Blah, blah, blah...

The excitement of meeting someone new is hard for me let go of. To get back on topic (Fark not being my personal erotica site and all), if you've got the means to pull it off a la Scarlett, why not go for it?