what's the big deal. even if it is forced it can't hurt. unless hiv/aids test can hurt human beings then i'm all for it. it's better to know for sure if we have hiv/aids than to not know. now if it were something like a forced microchip.. then there would be issues because that is something that could hurt human beings.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35114722

Depends on how they would spin the propaganda to get the microchip to you. First it would be given to criminals and dementia patients.Then it would be vital to know where your children are 24/7.Then it may even be linked into a method of monitoring your physical health, all for your own good, of course.Then the only terrorists in the world are those who do not want to be tracked where ever they go, so unchipped people must be hunted out and either accept a chip or be put in prison.It is all done in stages. Most people would accept it.

Why do we need this? We've already had major breakthroughs to curing AIDS and cancer. A lot of this stuff is getting road blocked by the FDA. A year ago, we've developed a method to inhibit the HIV virus and cheaply and yet again, the FDA road blocks it.

you title screams about HIV testing, but the your post talks about logging DNA. I stopped reaading right there, so don't know if you ever got around to naming a credible source

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42326624

You really need to read the disaster of legislation that, when compiled, is what we call Obama Care. It phases in a requirement for HIV/AIDS testing to "help protect workers". I have friends who are nurses and they've never yet had an HIV/AIDS positive person NOT tell them they tested positive and to be careful with the needle.

Perhaps you're not understanding the uses a government would have by putting your DNA on file? If you think PRISM is a serious deal, even though it's been around a LOT longer than most people know, imagine what they have had in the works since then? They've been honing their skills and they seriously think you - we - are all cattle to be corralled and controlled. I used to work there. My clearances only went as high as Top Secret military equipment and "Need to Know" on certain programs, but it was enough.

Quoting: Éireann

Good point, Eireann!

I just read the executive order. Sounds innocuous enough on the surface, right? But, there's this phrase that keeps getting repeated that concerns me. "other evidence-based strategies to combat HIV". This is open ended and not defined. I just don't trust anything coming out of D.C., and especially from "O".

More government employees hired to run and oversee another executive order. I'm still reeling over Obamacare.

its simple, they get yur blood and dna . if you are positive they stick you in a camp a kill you. if your not, they have tour dna and tamper with it to make it positive and then THEY KILL YOU. pretty simple. its all for the betterment of the nazi fuckers.

While turning in your fire arms..They'll be multi tasking Wonder who's getting the contracted for all that?

While here, go a head about the experience had month or so ago.. went into this huge hospital with someone for testing, same place i saw the elderly man who 'fell out' if anyone caught that.

any how the racial makeup was bizarre, in the blood room they were all black females..maybe 10 of them for the six testing stations plus office people and acting like a bunch of fat hens in a hen house, talking about social things, home life, kids, lunch... one even broke off into singing out loud everyone could hear her..really just a pitiful spectacle of carrying on.Guessing these could be the new testers...

you title screams about HIV testing, but the your post talks about logging DNA. I stopped reaading right there, so don't know if you ever got around to naming a credible source

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42326624

You really need to read the disaster of legislation that, when compiled, is what we call Obama Care. It phases in a requirement for HIV/AIDS testing to "help protect workers". I have friends who are nurses and they've never yet had an HIV/AIDS positive person NOT tell them they tested positive and to be careful with the needle.

Perhaps you're not understanding the uses a government would have by putting your DNA on file? If you think PRISM is a serious deal, even though it's been around a LOT longer than most people know, imagine what they have had in the works since then? They've been honing their skills and they seriously think you - we - are all cattle to be corralled and controlled. I used to work there. My clearances only went as high as Top Secret military equipment and "Need to Know" on certain programs, but it was enough.

Quoting: Éireann

Good point, Eireann!

I just read the executive order. Sounds innocuous enough on the surface, right? But, there's this phrase that keeps getting repeated that concerns me. "other evidence-based strategies to combat HIV". This is open ended and not defined. I just don't trust anything coming out of D.C., and especially from "O".

More government employees hired to run and oversee another executive order. I'm still reeling over Obamacare.

Quoting: LADY ENIGMA

Another thought.

Are we going to believe or trust D.C., the people who know all about Chemtrails and refused to do anything about this disaster in the making?

you title screams about HIV testing, but the your post talks about logging DNA. I stopped reaading right there, so don't know if you ever got around to naming a credible source

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42326624

You really need to read the disaster of legislation that, when compiled, is what we call Obama Care. It phases in a requirement for HIV/AIDS testing to "help protect workers". I have friends who are nurses and they've never yet had an HIV/AIDS positive person NOT tell them they tested positive and to be careful with the needle.

Perhaps you're not understanding the uses a government would have by putting your DNA on file? If you think PRISM is a serious deal, even though it's been around a LOT longer than most people know, imagine what they have had in the works since then? They've been honing their skills and they seriously think you - we - are all cattle to be corralled and controlled. I used to work there. My clearances only went as high as Top Secret military equipment and "Need to Know" on certain programs, but it was enough.

Quoting: Éireann

Good point, Eireann!

I just read the executive order. Sounds innocuous enough on the surface, right? But, there's this phrase that keeps getting repeated that concerns me. "other evidence-based strategies to combat HIV". This is open ended and not defined. I just don't trust anything coming out of D.C., and especially from "O".

More government employees hired to run and oversee another executive order. I'm still reeling over Obamacare.

Quoting: LADY ENIGMA

We get it, but some people who are thinking that "mandatory testing" is a good thing don't understand the far reaching implications of FORCED upon your person by law. What else will they be forcing upon our persons by law?

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Im not an Obama fan but 2 of my uncles died of aids. Its a good thing.

Or you can think more nets can prevent mosquito aids death. Its you or them. They spread it radically in Africa.

Quoting: Tallafornian

Where did your uncles contract the virus? Are they gay?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1048618

Drugs. Sharing needles. Very sad to see someone die of it. Former shadow of themselves for years. The test is a positive thing. I would give a sample yearly to prevent another being affected and going through it.

Quoting: Tallafornian

Drugs are illegal and that didnt stop your uncles. An executive order would have made them get tested?

Its dangerous for america to give up personal responsibility and depend on nanny state govt. How can people not see that?

And it is not for HIv, ultimate goal is DNA database on everyone for obamacare rationing.

Any sexually active man or woman who has had more than one partner and failed to use a condom should be tested.

I was tested annually at my physical until I was no longer "sexually active". Should that change, I'd go back to testing again. And were I to enter into a LTR with anyone I would insist that we both be tested initially and then again six months later. Any breach of fidelity and we'd both be facing testing again for a year or so (assuming the breach didn't end the relationship itself.)

HIV prevalence among African Americans is ten times greater than the prevalence among whites. This racial disparity in HIV prevalence has persisted in the face of both governmental and private actions, involving many billions of dollars, to combat HIV.

Every woman that becomes pregnant in my state of Texas is tested for aids/hiv. That is for the health of both mom and baby. Forcing every citizen in the country is just bizarre. He doesn't understand our laws. He's TRASH YES OBAMA IS FILTHY FILTHY FILTHY SCUM HE IS HATED NATIONWIDE!!!

HIV prevalence among African Americans is ten times greater than the prevalence among whites. This racial disparity in HIV prevalence has persisted in the face of both governmental and private actions, involving many billions of dollars, to combat HIV.

Quoting: zenobiaphobia

It's what not said in the Executive Order that may apply:

"other evidence-based strategies to combat HIV".

This phrase was repeated at least 3 times in the order. The word "evidence" & "strategies" is a red flag.

i have never met any person with aids and i have met a lot of people in 43 yrs. been around heroine addicts they never got aids. aids is a vague term . it is a week immune system which in africa is caused by unclean and lack of clean water and food. people who are on drugs where themselves out. they don't take care of themselves so there immune system is overloaded and finally can't keep up.