CIA and Pentagon Plan for Worse Case in Mexico

CIA and Pentagon Plan for Worse Case in Mexico

The American CIA and Pentagon planners wonder if Mexico will implode and lose the country to drug cartels. We face the possibility of having
the 11th largest country in the world being ruled by vicious drug cartels next door to our country. This will have catastrophic effects on the United
States in terms of crime, massive US military commitment, millions of people fleeing the war and violence in Mexico and humanitarian aid of enormous
proportions.

I listen to my friends living in Arizona talk and it's not in the future tense for them. They use those terms of failed state and cartel Government
south of the line as current tense or even fond past tense comments. Fond...because that suggested there was at least SOME Government still funtioning
in a reliable way. When we have cops and politicians literally running across our border at El Paso to HIDE on the American side just to stay
alive...I submit there isn't a working Government in Mexico now.......in many areas outside Mexico City and the Yucatan.

The Zetas, which is a cartel of ex and rogue Mexican special forces have their tendrils in the Mexican military and law enforcement. Zetas are also
merging with street gangs and supplying them with military training. So, I guess the FBI and ATF supply them with arms, ( as well as the Zeta rivaled
Sinaloa cartel) to help the CIA expedite the smuggling of drugs. Meanwhile the pentagon has everyone in their cross hairs. The border is a warzone,
but southern Mexico is virtually untouched of the violence.

I hesitate to post here and lend creedence to your "news source" but it would appear from our vantage point down here in central Mexico that the CIA
and perhaps the Pentagon are doing their darndest to foment the worst possible scenario here. From your source:

This will have catastrophic effects on the United States in terms of crime, massive US military commitment, millions of people fleeing the war and
violence in Mexico and humanitarian aid of enormous proportions.

Yes, one knows how desperately and to what extent the US goes to avoid conflict and that such an undertaking would have disasterous effects on the US
economy, especially if they find it necessary, for our protection, to sieze control of Mexico's nationalized petroleum industry and its other
resources. I am sure, though, that if the US decided to drive across the border with its tanks and heavy armament there would indeed be millions
fleeing the war and violence they would bring us.

Let's just hope the summit of heads of state planned in Cartegena, Colombia is productive and can spare the US its efforts and catastrophic
consequences we all would experience. If Americans are truly concerned about illicit drug cartels and their growing capital and influence the advice I
would offer them is, Just Say No.

The illegal drug industry is very lucrative, and represents for many nations a way to employ their poorest citizens, hence it is a stabilizing factor.
The war on drugs is a pseudo-farce, because the CIA did help and may still help countries to transport illegal drugs:

This is one of the many contradictions, at first the drug trade was used to finance a guerrilla war in Nicaragua. Then it transformed into a
stabilizing factor. In order to economically stabilize certain countries, illegal drugs must be produced, though officially they must be opposed with
a drug-war, in order to drive up the sell price and assuage the morals of the public. This is a war that is NOT meant to end or to be won, it's
purpose is to raise the price of a product and to employ people.

We could get rid of illegal plant-based drugs tomorrow, molecular biologists can create a selective pathogen that can kill only illegal drug
plants. The pathogen could be a virus, bacteria, or fungi. It could be spread by spraying, insects, birds, animals, native weeds, put into fertilizer
and water, etc.

We could get rid of illegal plant-based drugs tomorrow, molecular biologists can create a selective pathogen that can kill only illegal drug
plants. The pathogen could be a virus, bacteria, or fungi. It could be spread by spraying, insects, birds, animals, native weeds, put into fertilizer
and water, etc.

That is a valid question, we could use fungi and bacteria instead of viruses to reduce the amount of mutation. Now, even if the virus does mutate, it
does not mean that it will be harmful to humans or other plants. Most mutations don't result in a viable pathogen, and molecular biology is
sufficiently advanced that they can create a vaccine that can address a broad range of mutations. Such a program should be closely monitored.

This is a question that molecular biologists are better able to answer.

Originally posted by Erongaricuaro
I hesitate to post here and lend creedence to your "news source" ....

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This problem must be looked at differently. It begins with the USA declaring certain living organisms LEGAL or ILLEGAL. This makes a new commodity.
These plants and organisms that are ILLEGAL to the USA are not illegal in other parts of the world. The parts of the world that allow the growth of
illegal drugs, and other natural living organisms of this earth, are harvested and sent to places such as the USA. Because they are illegal, they
fetch a MUCH HIGHER price. This is nothing but another money scheme, only its monstrous. The money "drugs" bring in is through the roof.

Keep in mind, for every natural growing "drug", aka living organism or plant, that is made illegal.... big pharmaceuticals have already made a
synthetic version that you CAN BUY if you go though their process of using their doctors and more or less stimulating their economy in a specific
way.

Making drugs illegal only hurts the people. Nobody should dictate the lives of anything or anyone, period.

In the notorious drug producing countries, possession of less than a certain amount is legal, though cultivation is not.

In addition, the United States does have the means and power to "persuade" other nations to eliminate certain unwanted elements, we have seen clear
evidence of this in the last 10 years. If we really wanted to eliminate certain illegal plant based drugs, we could do it. No physical violence is
necessary, just a good, sustained, and careful program of selective pathogens.

Originally posted by chadderson
This problem must be looked at differently. It begins with the USA declaring certain living organisms LEGAL or ILLEGAL. This makes a new commodity.
These plants and organisms that are ILLEGAL to the USA are not illegal in other parts of the world. The parts of the world that allow the growth of
illegal drugs, and other natural living organisms of this earth, are harvested and sent to places such as the USA. Because they are illegal, they
fetch a MUCH HIGHER price. This is nothing but another money scheme, only its monstrous. The money "drugs" bring in is through the roof.

Keep in mind, for every natural growing "drug", aka living organism or plant, that is made illegal.... big pharmaceuticals have already made a
synthetic version that you CAN BUY if you go though their process of using their doctors and more or less stimulating their economy in a specific
way.

Making drugs illegal only hurts the people. Nobody should dictate the lives of anything or anyone, period.

Very good. "We" are losing Mexico to drug cartels due to "our" war on drugs, which is really just a scheme to make money off of prohibition. There
is some pretty good anecdotal evidence that our own government is involved in the hard drugs trade, and what about that plant-that-can-not-be-named?
It is considered, so it seems, the worst drug of all (forget RX drugs which kill more people than heroin and coc aine combined), but it will
never be made legal. Why? Anyone can grow it, therefore, it can never be controlled or...monopolized.

Yeah, and as to the post after mine; I will not reply directly to it since it was not a direct reply to me, but what about those industrial uses for
hemp? "Marijuana" (OHHHH!) Tax Act 1937. Good ol' "Citizen Kane" W.R. Hearst was a strong and influential advocate for that, because he owned all
the papers, and papers can be made out of hemp (easily renewable resource) or trees (Hearst had buds in the timber industry: ha ha, "Buds," I made a
funny!)

Trees: non-renewable, or at least it takes a long time. Price can be manipulated and goes up as the resource is depleted. Hemp? Grow as much as
you want, pretty much anywhere, no limits. You can make money on it, but price stays relatively stable.

We could get rid of illegal plant-based drugs tomorrow, molecular biologists can create a selective pathogen that can kill only illegal drug plants.
The pathogen could be a virus, bacteria, or fungi. It could be spread by spraying, insects, birds, animals, native weeds, put into fertilizer and
water, etc.

Sure, why not? It's not like the hemp plant has any beneficial uses whatsoever. [/sarcasm] And the coca plant chewed by the Andean people to help
them cope with living at high altitudes. I suppose they can just suffer instead. But this crosses the line when we are speaking of Coca-Cola who still
uses the coca plant in its flavor formula, minus the drug which is extracted and has long since been removed from the formula. No way I would favor
any plan that would put New Coke back on the shelves.

I'm sure Monsanto would find your plan an easy sell. Many industries would back a plan to permanently eradicate the hemp plant.

CIA and Pentagon Plan for Worse Case in Mexico

The American CIA and Pentagon planners wonder if Mexico will implode and lose the country to drug cartels. We face the possibility of having
the 11th largest country in the world being ruled by vicious drug cartels next door to our country. This will have catastrophic effects on the United
States in terms of crime, massive US military commitment, millions of people fleeing the war and violence in Mexico and humanitarian aid of enormous
proportions.

(visit the link for the full news article)

Of course "they" are planning for that scenario since THEY ARE CREATING EXACTLY THAT. The war on drugs isn't a "failed war", its their favorite
vector to initiate war for global demonization. Or did I mean domination?

Whatever happened to all those ak-47s covertly given to the mexican drug cartels?

How assinine can you possibly be to arm drug lords in mexico, so that one drug cartel takes out another drug cartel, citizens and cops in mexico get
killed, then the violence spreads to the inner cities in america.

Of course it is a setup. It made the mainstream news about a year ago but the investigation failed due to national security bullcrap. Do anything
you want and when you get caught play the NS card!!

Originally posted by Erongaricuaro
I hesitate to post here and lend creedence to your "news source" but it would appear from our vantage point down here in central Mexico that the CIA
and perhaps the Pentagon are doing their darndest to foment the worst possible scenario here. From your source:

This will have catastrophic effects on the United States in terms of crime, massive US military commitment, millions of people fleeing the war and
violence in Mexico and humanitarian aid of enormous proportions.

Yes, one knows how desperately and to what extent the US goes to avoid conflict and that such an undertaking would have disasterous effects on the US
economy, especially if they find it necessary, for our protection, to sieze control of Mexico's nationalized petroleum industry and its other
resources. I am sure, though, that if the US decided to drive across the border with its tanks and heavy armament there would indeed be millions
fleeing the war and violence they would bring us.

Let's just hope the summit of heads of state planned in Cartegena, Colombia is productive and can spare the US its efforts and catastrophic
consequences we all would experience. If Americans are truly concerned about illicit drug cartels and their growing capital and influence the advice I
would offer them is, Just Say No.

Star for AnimositisominA's post.

edit on 8-4-2012 by Erongaricuaro because: (no reason given)

Your country too? HA, perhaps we conduct a poll asking people of various countries if they believe their country has a US puppet government in place,
and if not, do they believe their country has US war drums beating for them, and if those war drums which are beating are in the CIA divide and
conquer policy.

I wonder if there is any nation on this planet at current which is safe from the plots of US, and if so where are they? (and who are they)

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