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Re: I'm watching the inauguration. My thoughts. Your thoughts?

You mean you've never heard of a back person? LOL. Yeah, I guess my right ring finger is getting weaker by the day.

Don't worry. Everything on the right is getting weaker by the day.

Originally Posted by animalius

The point remains. After the long open struggle for equal rights, you'd think that the black community should be on the forefront of lgbt rights issues, not lagging behind everyone else.

Everyone has their own biases. Many in the black community are highly religious and some people find it hard to reconcile the idea of equality and their deeply held faith in religion. There are advances being made. Here in Maryland, where we just had a vote on marriage equality, we had a number of high profile preachers and religious figures as well as people in the black community speak out in favor of equality likening it to the civil rights movement in the 60's.

The ideas of equality are moving forward, but it is hard to overcome both deep seated bias against certain behaviors as well as well ingrained religious ideas and practices.

Re: I'm watching the inauguration. My thoughts. Your thoughts?

I'm watching it now. Civil Rights icon woman giving a speech right now. At some point, she pointed out that the goal is for equality for all.

I'm thinking to myself. How ironic it is that half if not most former civil rights advocates in the back community are now against gay rights. What a bunch of hypocrites.

I dont know where you get your numbers from. There are Black activists that fight for Gay Rights. A good deal of them are in the NAACP. Al Sharpton included, he marched with Dr. King.Remember, just because someone is apart of a disenfranchised group, doesn't mean that they will be for every disenfranchised group. Are you out there fighting for women's rights and the rights of the handicapable ? Why are there racist gays?

Re: I'm watching the inauguration. My thoughts. Your thoughts?

Originally Posted by loki81

JUB... where thinking Obama hasn't gone far enough on gay rights and is kinda bad when it comes to civil liberties turns me into a bitter conservative.

No, just violently intellectually dishonest Obama has done more for gay rights than any other President in US history. And not a little bit more, not kinda sorta more, but vast oceans of more. That it isn't enough for you would be only slightly embarrassing if you were not defending a party that isn't just doing less, but is in fact ACTIVELY fighting our equality.

So yes, you really have no ground to stand on to accuse Obama of not doing "enough" for us. He is doing all that he could do in the current political environment. The list is huge, and if you think that's not enough, how did you feel during Bush?

That we are capable only of being what we are, remains our unforgivable sin.
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