@Doctor now I am 100% sure that u have lost your senses , if you think that the terrorist tola is black mailing the people than why dont you go teh courts to prove your point , accept the fact that MQM has now won through a democratic movement . ALLAH says in the Holy Quran " HUM JESA CHAE AIZAT DE DA AUR JESA CHAE ZILAT DE DA" so my dear brother GOD has given this honour and victory to the HAQ PARAST people who are sons and daughters of the founders of pakistan ,

I will disagree with doctor here that MQM will not get a single vote without rigging. This is also reality that MQM was involved in rigging. It’s true that many genuine mohajirs(not kachra party which started favoring MQM after 2000 ) don’t support MQM anymore that’s why if you take a look on turn out of this election and previous election then you would find a visible difference. MQM knew that their image have got screwed up a lot after 12th May that’s why MQM goons were already present on many poling stations. Now if it’s not rigging then we should change meaning of rigging in dictionary.

Congrats to MQM for not only reinvigorating their voters which stayed away during 2002, but also diversifying their vote bank to get more success than ever. There was a record turn out even in constituencies like Gulshan, where Haider Rizvi won an impressive victory on a contentious seat. Thanks to Teetho just compared the vote count with that of 2002. MQM also snatched a seat from the Marwat clan, so great job; keep up the good work and never mind the eminent possibility of sitting on the opposition benches.

To the whiners, how many Jaali vote a party can manage in a constituency 1000, 2000, 5000 ……10,000? MQM has now secured more votes than 1988 and margin of victory on a great majority of seats is in excess of 50,0000 to 100,000. So that throws all of your theories out of the window.

Its now evident that JI and PTI made a stupid choice by boycotting the elections, and even if they had participated they would have made no impact in Sindh, however their participation in Punjab would have helped PPP to get a few more seats, and that’s my take on it.

Psuedo reality check: time is coming when MQM is going to shake hands with those who screwed up their goons back in 90s so much that were hiding in interior sind’s shrines and in London. yes same PPP is coming again and I am sure the way MQM shook hand with dictator(an Army guy whom they always hated), they would shake hand with PPP too so in reality biggest whiner here is MQM. MQM’s state is no different than a vulgar pUnjabi song "Menu note dekha mera mood banay". And same pro MQM people who used to curse PPPP/BIBI all the time would be seen saying "Zinda hay BiBi Zinda hay". What a political party! I hope pro MQM wil not cry if PPP "resume" 90s operation in 21st century because it’s quite clear that Sindhis and Mohajirs can’t get along at all.

Mullah involvement goes way beyond KHAKI, in fact when Moulana Shukat Ali & Co. joined Muslim League, Saeed-uz-Zaman was the first to point out that, "You are inviting Mullahs into politics, but once they are in, it will be almost impossible to get them out". And the Moulvi’s never looked back. Later on, at the height of cold war, they became first line of defence against spread of communism in Muslim countries, and thus were beneficiaries of some serious $’s. After the collapse of Soviet Union when every body went home, some of the Mullahs remained benign but some grew very sharp teeth. It seems that the democratic process has finally dealt them another blow viz a viz politics. They got a chance but were found wanting, our Pathan brothers endured them for four years, until finally it became too much. They should now consider revising their curriculum to include some civic courses it they hope to get a taste of governance in the distant future.

So ADNAN it has come down to incitement and talk of SINDHI, MOHAJIR, PATHAN and PUNJABI etc. I can very well understand your frustration but remain calm there is no need to panic it will wear off in couple of days. The situation is not as dire as you project it to be. If PPP can form the govt without any bodies help then good for them, MQM should sit in opposition and do their job. After all it is not written that a party will always remain in power. As for the talk of another 91 style operation, PPP or for that matter any other party is not foolish/strong enough to travel that road, especially when there is absolutely no ground to even think of such an undertaking, my dear people are lot smarter than you take them to be. However, Baitullah Mahsood and his allies better watch out, bad days ahead for them.

Guys MQM did a lot of rigging. It was witnessed by many who went late for castiong their votes. After 2 to 3 o clock they closed polling in many stations and didn’t let voters in. Some who got inside those stations by agitating witnessed the SATHIS of MQM filling ballot papers in the ballot boxes. This is fact that MQM hasn’t got much votes in Karachi due to many reasons such as 12th May incident. The only reason they got so many votes and seats of their rivals was that the absence of JAMATIS.This MQM are nothing more than racist fascist group.

so can you educate this blog reader about the background of 90s operation by PPP? what was the "Genuine" reason which provoked PPP to screw up all MQM goons? Do remember that MQM haqiqi was brainchild of ISI[Pakistani Army] rather Nawaz Sharif. Yes the same army which is treated as God by same MQM. Your attitude actually reflecting that MQM supporters are now looking towards PPP which is quite understanable.

on a side note, for all pro Musharraf who now have came up with lame argument that Muhsarraf is good who arranged fair election, the BBC article came up with an interesting analogy.

ADNAN you are the one that remains rooted in history rather than learning from it. Just to remind you that the Army today is not the same one in the past, there is a huge difference. PPP is not the same PPP and there is only Naseer left off Naseer-ullah Babar. True that Nawaz Sharif hosted Haqiqi guys, but will he even attempt something like that again? No way, right now he is more eager to show US that he has nothing to do with Osama any more and will never take his money. Furthermore, it’s a different Pakistan than 90’s and the 90’s Pakiistan was much different than the 80’s. So the political manoeuvring of 2008 will not be the same too. It could very well turn out to be much worse, but it will not be the same.

*Mullah involvement goes way beyond KHAKI, in fact when Moulana Shukat Ali & Co. joined Muslim League, Saeed-uz-Zaman was the first to point out that

*** Hey Reality_Check, what is going on here?

Maulana Shaukat Ali, Maulana Muhamamad Ali Jauhar were not Mullahs in the sense we use the word today. Both these brothers, were Aligarh Univ educated, cricket players, and at least Muhammad Ali was an Oxford Masters degree holder.
And they were both in politics, and even perhaps in Muslim League, way before jinnah joined Muslim League (I am not 100 percent sure of this point). Reality_check, watching too much PK election news on TV these days? and can’t distinguish between idiot mullahs like fazlur-rahman and the educated people like Shaukat Ali, Hasrat Mohani etc? Maulana Hasrat Mohani was also an Aligrh Univ graduate. Allama Iqbal was CAmbridge Univ PHD, and Allam Inayat Hussain Mashriqi was a Math graduate from Cambridge. These guys were called Maulana / allama as sign of respect, not because they had spend 6 years of total education at some stupid madrassa in akoRah khattak!
oh, and you guys never though I would defend Maulanas:-)

The best thing that happened in this election was the complete routing of the MMA by the ANP !!! congrats to my pushtoon brothers for showing us all true pukhtoonwari!

and as for mqm they will always win big in karachi just as pml-ganja will always win big in punjab and ppp will always win rural sind.

However kudos to PPP AND PML -Q for being the only two party’s which can win all over the map not just in ethnic enclaves. PML -Q has lost the big fight for now but after 2 years of zardari people will happily vote in a blind donkey and the geographic success of the pml -q will make it a stong contender if the lota party manages to survive the next two months.

BALMA its absolutely irrelevant and out of context here, but since you ask, I will quote something even more controversial, mind you these are not my words;

"The Khilafat movement brought about shifts in the
Muslim League leadership. Secularists like Jinnah and Wazir Hasan were driven out of the League and second rank leaders like Maulana Shaukat Ali moved into the first rank. Mahatma Gandhi, however, was the true leader of the Khilafat Movement ñ in his own words he had become the dictator of the movement. With him were fanatical mullahs like Maulana Abdul Bari of Firangi Mahal.
But at every stage they asked Gandhi to tell them what to do……."

Its not 90s friend its 2008, world much more open and MQM more organized. Still one thing is common that NO compromise on self respect. Why should there be another operation Adnan, you are trying to be too prophetic. Mohajirs are always ready to face any thing that is imposed on them for not compromising on the dignity and self respect. We are ready to face any operation if that is going to happen again. Adnan dont get happy with any one’s win or any ones loss, instead think about the growth and proposeprity of the city and the country. Believe me the idealogy has further strengthened after 27 December that TOGETHER WE STAND.

ADNAN you are the one that remains rooted in history rather than learning from i

Reality Darling,I learnt from past that’s why I don’t support MQM otherwise I was MQM’s supporter in 1st two elections after Zia. ON other hand you belief on MQM is more than a religion. Time for reality check, NO? *grin*

Ammar, as I already said that MQM newbies have no idea about their party hence they keep repeating same stuff again and again. Go and make a study of MQM. It might hurt you that your Altaf bai was very active IJI(Islami Jamiat Taliba) member in KU days and creation of MQM is nothing but blessing of ISI on basis of Bai’s anger against Jamatis who beatem Altaf like when he was a student. Now go ,make study and then come here to sing praises of MQM.

Hmmm you will teach us to study. Yes that basically reinforce what i said earlier that you are the first person who got education in any of your geenrations.
As for Altaf Hussain to be the a IJT worker, every one was in one or the other party as there was no Mohajir Party at that time. You can only feel when taste and IJT was using mohajirs hence a new party for Mohajirs. This doest effect what we feel about MQM.

I think that the NW has suffered a lot and even though the army may have acted out of neccessity they also created a humanitarian disaster in the north west. ANP is totally right in opposing those actions while simultaneously opposing mullah tyranny. Unlike you i am not a unidimensional fascist and i can see both sides of an argument.
That being said the rest of the country is now being ruled once again by outright criminals like asif zardari and altaf hussein and petty theives like nawaz sharif which in my opinion is nothing to crow about.
Like all societies pakistan just needs a facelift change every 7 years or so, in another seven years there will likely be another martial law to end another useless and corrupt democracy and pakistani’s will be seen dancing in the streets once again and distributing meethai.
If anything good has come out of the last 7 years it is freedom of the press (thank you Musharraf) and perhaps freedom of the judiciary (thank you Iftikhar Salahuddin). Two good outcomes from two sworn enemies.

and as for totally wiped out i suggest you take a long look at the georgraphical distribution of PML-Q’s victory. As much as i dont support the PML-Q (mainly made up of rag tag feudals) they are the only party in pakistan except for PPP which can win from every province even in a backlash year.

Musharaf can not stay in power forever, he mostly did a good job and under very difficult circumstances he saved pakistan from being bombed into the stone age or sanctioned into starvation. Lets see if the next govt. can do any better. I hope they will but i would not bet any money on it.

@AMMAR: i already stated fact, Altaf was member of IJT. If you don’t believe then ask any elder in your family who was student of KU in 70s. ;)

Musharaf can not stay in power forever, he mostly did a good job

yes by signing NRO to save his darling BiBi :-)

he saved pakistan from being bombed into the stone age or sanctioned into starvation

keep these fairy tales to yourself now which you used to hear in Army mess about miraculous power of so called Pak Army. This is the fact that Musharraf screwed Pakistan Army up so much that now poor Kiyani has been struggling hard to rebuild Army image and calling his officers back to mess who currently are busy in looting in different organizations .

I think around the time of Khilafat Movement, Jinnah himself was not a big deal. Ali brothers wre more famous at that time, i believe. I do think Khilafat movement was misguided and Muslims suffered a lot due to it…like talking children off the colleges…etc.
I do think there were other Muslim leaders who were more sincere to Indian Muslims than Jinnah.
And, I don’t beleive that farangi mehlees were fanatics. Deoband was fanatic, farangi mehel wasn’t. In fact they closed their famous school after realizing it was not useful for Muslims anymore to have that kind of education.
Well, we can discuss history another time…

Tu nahee sudhrai gaa bachai..dont get tired man..you know that people are not listening to your stupid baseless arguments then why you waste energy? MQM won the election thats the reality..screaming, claiming,yeiling about the bogus voting wont change the fact so accept the reality or keep living in your fantacy land but please dont write in these blogs.we are all getting tired of reading your same rant against MQM. MQM will be representing Karachi for next 5 yrs and will again in next election to represent another 5 yrs so you better learn to live with this fact.
let karachi celebrate the victory of its own people and if you cannot participate then stay inside your madrasa and keep chewing paan.

who can ever expect mqm to be honest? people from karachi always knew what kind of party mqm was, we always knew that mqm only won by rigging. finally so many people are speaking out against it. type rigging in karachi on google and so many results will show up with mqm’s name. fianlly people are starting to speak up against them, there are several videos clearly showing rigging online, some of them are posted on youtube: http://youtube.com/results?uploaded=d&search_query=mqm+rigging

the quality is not that great, but you can tell whats going on, there are several other videos over the internet along with people sharing their persona experiences on elections day in online blogs. on the 26th of feb, ppp is taking mqm to court to the sindh high court for rigging these elections. honestly, enough of living in fear from these thugs, they should go and let us karachi people live in peace.

Is it a Karachi Met Blog or an anti MQM blog. The problem is that on these blogs most of the readers and the writers belong to the posh areas of Karachi, and most of them are from different provinces especially from Punjab. I am not all that supporter of MQM and talking about Altaf Hussain he sucks, but in the recent elections I have voted for MQM not because I am a mohajir or urdu speaking bla bla bla…. The reason of my vote for MQM is Mustafa Kamal. I have met this guy when he was in UK, he is a MBA and the best thing about him is the passion he is filled up with. Just take an example of Gulistan-e-Johar, the place use to suck around 8 months ago because of Traffic jam and shitty roads. But because of CDGK irrespective of what kind of interest they have from G-Johar the place is now in peace no more traffic hazards nothing… (Keeping in mind that this place falls under fucking CBF umbrella… Cantonment Board Faisal….) so the votes MQM got is not because of Waseem Akhtar , Babar Ghauri, Haider Abbas and others….. The votes they got are because of CDGK’s performance in recent years.
Now lets talk about MQM itself… people use to curse MQM because of Altaf Hussain… I think its wrong to some extent …reason … all the political parties in Pakistan use to work like this.. just take PPP, its not Pakistan’s People Party its the party of Bhutto only… his family members that’s it. same is the case with ANP Wali Khan’s family have the right to decide what has to be done …. same is the case with PML(N)… or even worse cause this party holds the name of Nawaz Shareef… just imagine what will be the case with this party if Nawaz Shareef leave it or sidelined due to some reason …the party actually has to change its name … no Nawaz Shareef means no PML-N … and one of the most celebrated person of this blog Mr. Imran Khan…. oh my God what a player he was …. The personality charisma that attracted not only Asians but also the whites into this game…. A worldcup winner and so on…. I agree he is undoubtdly the most eligible cricket player sub-continent have produced but this thing doesn’t work in politics… shaking hands and sitting with people who use to his rivals when he started his politics… i remember him saying that Nawaz and Benazir as corrupt and so many things… and Nawaz Shareef is the person who plotted a scandal of Seeta White against him…. somebody should ask Imran where have you developed this habbit of saying no to something and after some time you got agree with that..(News published on BBC that Imran has visited US to meet his daughter) , so cut it short MQM is just like all the political parties of Pakistan… if they are called terrorist tolla’s then same name goes with PPP also like what they have done to KARACHI and PESHAWAR on 27th December, if you called them that they use to cash the 94 Karachi operation to earn the votes same with PPP, as the sympathy vote earner first from Zulfiqar ali bhutto now from his daughter Miss World of Corruption Late Benazir bhutto,if you called them as LISANI jamat same goes with ANP and PML-N … so all you out their if you just see them a little in detail they are actually all the same… they love themselves only and hate any thing that hurt their own interests. Just imagine the biggest delima of Pakistan … The biggest S O B , the Mr.10% the man behind every corruption Zardari is in commanding position to decide who will be our nest PM…. what else you can expect…
We all dream of being ASIAN TIGER. ahaaan old joke come up with a new one…….
Thanks.

Lot of people in karachi vote for MQM only cuz they are full of hatred. They know that MQM is bad n everything but they still vote MQM cuz they have hatred for other communties, which MQM has mastered in buy givin a ethnic touch.

I think MQM,s politics is based on only one thing, HATRED. Problems of common people in pakistan are the same…be it punjab, sind, karachi, balochistan, phuktuankwa or anywhere but MQM spreads hatred by blaming other communities. In reality all communities and all common people living in pakistan are faced with same problems.I hope people understand what i am saying.

I myself belong to a urdu speaking community. We are the most educated people in pakistan n we should understand this.