Alright guys, try not to mock me too much, is this setup turning bike carbs into throttle bodies? As in using the cars injectors and engine mangement? If so is this only possible with GSXR 1000 carbs or could you use my cbr 900 honda fireblade carbs? Im starting to get mega confused?!?

OK JUST FIGURED IT OUT I THINK!!!! Sorry for being so dumb they arnt carbs!?! they are throttle bodies I feel a twat if thats the case!!!!!!!!!! So will i get a better power gain from sandys set up then slapping the bike carbs on? I should think its way more efficient. Would this kit fit a tu5jp4?

It's using the throttle bodies from the fuel injection GSXR, with programmable management, rather than carbs.

Time will tell if it makes good power! But we gone to a great deal of trouble to make sure it's got good tract designs and resolving all the fiddly issues that should make them nice to use, reliable etc.

Yeah im really intrested, this must be a way better way to do it the just slapping on bike carbs. Im going to flog my carbs and find me some gsxr bodies this setuplooks sunning. will it fit a tu5jp4 though?

We haven't made a JP4 flange specifically yet (although we plan to), but you can re-drill the JP4 head for the J4 flange quite easily.
Don't forget to bear in mind the cost of a programmable ECU, loom and mapping.

Colin's been working on the final details, such as making the GTI injectors fit, which is a bit of a mission on its own! I think that might have to be optional, because it's quite laborious.
Once I've got the first set up running, I'll be able to verify how suitable the GSXR injectors are and we'll take it from there.

Making the Pico injectors fit will have to be extra, simply because of the work involved. The simplest (and hence cheapest) solution of course will be to use the GSXR injectors, but I haven't established their flow rate or how well they work yet.

also the injectors use a different plug which would mean pulling my wiring loom apart again.... hmmm, ive already sent mine down to colin aswell, il wait and see what he comes up with then, cheers for the updates mate

You'll need the throttle position sensor, they are specific to the bodies more or less. If you have the loom for the GSXR injectors, it's essential if you want to use those injectors.

Getting the injectors to fit isn't as simple as it looks on these bodies and it's important to get it right, for safety and good fuel mixing. Colin's making a heap of adapters later this week, but the bodies themselves still need fettling.

what do you mean by the gsxr loom? all the bits and plugs coming from the injectors ect? i think im gona stop playing and send em to you lol. i took out the second set of butterflys if thats any help lol.

so just to clear things in my head when i recieve them back from you and colin will there be all new plugs to fit in all of my plugs ect? and what happens about the pipe that comes from the brake servo

colins just finished my set, and they look mint! very high standard of fabrication has gone into it judging by the pictures he sent me, il have them fitted asap and il report back with engine bay pics ect

i think mine was the prototype one, yer i will, i was running gsxr 600 bodies on a silicone tube connection manifold before hand, so il see how this compares and get it on the rollers to compare the graphs, shud be interesting

We'll be fitting some soon and probably the best idea is to detail/report the process, costs and what's involved to the last nut and bolt, so that people can see clearly what it takes and give you a clear idea of what you're getting into.

What we set out to do is take make a bike TB set up that we could confidently use on a race engine or a fussy road engine, knowing that it would work well, without the compromises usually associated with bike TB set ups. Quality is the priority.

There is a connection provided in the manifold for the brake servo pipe connection.

Its really not as simple as plugging everything in, its simply won't run on the standard ecu either, if it was that easy everyone would be doing it! Do to a proper job you NEED standalone management (£400 - £700) and new loom which you'll have to build yourself (£100 ish for parts) and have it mapped by someone who know what they are doing. I get the feeling you haven't thought this though!

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and again what happens to the pipe from the brake servo?

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There is a vacuum take of provided for the servo connection.

Bodies look great guys, I like the throttle linkage alterations, can't wait to get mine back

The trumpets are 42mm bore. It's about 220mm from the head face, which is a bit shorter than I'd like, but necessitated by most people asking for room for a proper filter. We will be making longer trumpets in due course that can be swapped easily.