Comments on: Presenting the Iron Man 3 trailer, in which Tony Stark is having a hard time dealing with himselfhttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html
Brain candy for Happy MutantsMon, 15 Sep 2014 23:11:17 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.1By: chadmulliganhttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1566577
Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:57:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1566577If I recall correctly, Dark Knight Returns frames Bane as a student of Ras al’ Ghul, so I might still be in the ballpark. :)
]]>By: chadmulliganhttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1566575
Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:55:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1566575Additionally, the sentence could parse well if the Mandarin is referring to “heroes” as a concept rather than a group of people.
]]>By: euansmithhttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1565382
Thu, 25 Oct 2012 15:58:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1565382I have a friend who rates movies almost entirely on the quality of the uniforms on display; allowing for the stated date of the film, the date of introduction of the uniform and a guestimated propagation rate for the uniform to peculate through the force’s logistical train. 8th Cavalry movies are a particular bug-bear of him.

Also a friend to his concert musician girlfiend watch Master & Commander, where she proceeded to criticise the instruments used by the Captain and Doctor in their duets as being inappropriate for the period.

Knowledge is great :D

]]>By: Ian Anthonyhttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1565168
Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:11:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1565168Huh. Thanks for the stats and the link, and I see where you’re coming from.
]]>By: Snighttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1564849
Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:25:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1564849If it gets too over the top silly, he just laughs or takes a nap.
]]>By: Florian Böschhttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1564806
Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:48:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1564806I get annoyed when a German plays a Swiss.
]]>By: euansmithhttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1564792
Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:37:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1564792 I get annoyed when Colin Farrell plays “American”.
]]>By: euansmithhttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1564791
Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:34:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1564791 What did he say about the authenticity of 300’s war-rhino?
]]>By: mikelipinohttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1564353
Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:28:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1564353Not to go too off-topic from Iron Man, but this is an valid point.

You’re right, it is an interesting distinction; racism of any kind should avoided equally. However this assumes that the movie industry operates in a “post-race” vacuum where the playing field is equal. It’s unilaterally not.

Something on the order of 81% of lead roles in American movies go to white actors (75% to white male). This leaves 19% for everyone else.* When roles are given to white male actors that are either written as ethnically diverse in the source material (The Mandarin, The Cloud Atlas, Avatar:TLA), or even based on real people who are non-white (The Social Network, 21), it drives the number of roles available to actors of color even further down.

Casting people of color in traditionally white roles, like Heimdall above, is more novelty and has never made a young… Asgardian feel excluded. Casting a white actor in a non-white role, either by rewriting the character as white or using blackface / yellowface, exacerbates a historical inequality that was present as Hollywood began and continues to this day. I don’t think that Hollywood should be held to some sort of quota, but you can almost hear ethnic communities throw their hands up in disgust when the year starts with a 2— and we still have Hugo Weaving and Jim Sturgess playing Asian with their eyes taped back.

* Compared to the demographics of the US, while one-sided it isn’t dramatically so, with 72% of people white, 13% black, and 5% Asian. However thinking about where many movies are made, CA, the variance from the demographic makeup is much more pronounced, at 40% white, 6.2% black, and 13% Asian.

]]>By: Dlo Burnshttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1564211
Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:21:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1564211He could entirely be playing dumb. That seems like something that’d piss of Tony.
]]>By: Dlo Burnshttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1564208
Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:20:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1564208Sir, the entire world has ‘dropped the bass’ so to speak. It might be time to go on your hermit pilgrimage.
]]>By: Dlo Burnshttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1564207
Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:18:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1564207Plot twist: it was sent back from the year 3004
]]>By: Dlo Burnshttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1564204
Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:12:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1564204I’d say Mandarin is more like Ra’s Al Ghul
]]>By: purple-staterhttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1564130
Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:45:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1564130Looking like a pass for me, or at least not the theatre release anyways. Unlike the author, I don’t want reminders that superheroes are people too. Well, at least not too many reminders. I like my heroes to be heroic, and my superhero movies to be about superheroes, not some people dealing with their emotional issues. There are enough reminders in daily life that it’s all too easy for life to suck.
]]>By: ocker3http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1564084
Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:03:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1564084 awesome Dad :)

Although, remember, they made a big thing about the movie being based off of the comic book, and neither of them really tried to be historically accurate.

]]>By: ocker3http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1564083
Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:01:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1564083 Adding one black guy to play a nominally white character (in a movie otherwise filled with white characters) doesn’t significantly reduce opportunities for white actors. The movie that shall not be spoken of by the director who shall not be spoken of was poorly cast overall, not just the lead roll.

Not sure about Kingsley as a Chinese character, but since he’s at least part Indian, at least that’s something. Honestly, in this case, some actors just transcend race. Denzel Washington in The Pelican Brief wasn’t a black character, it was just a guy being played by a good actor.

I haven’t read the comic books, but they’re doing a Lot of rewriting of events, backgrounds, etc., in this movie series, so perhaps they’re changing this character’s background too.

]]>By: ocker3http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1564081
Wed, 24 Oct 2012 06:55:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1564081 But is that the character in the comic books/movie?
]]>By: Ian Anthonyhttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1564072
Wed, 24 Oct 2012 06:28:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1564072Ah, but a man in a suit of power armor never fought anything in Zodiac.
]]>By: Ian Anthonyhttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1564070
Wed, 24 Oct 2012 06:24:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1564070I’ve found it curious that when the racists made a hubbub about a black guy playing Heimdall, everyone told them to shut the hell up, because screw racist people. And rightly so, because racists are jerks. But when, say, there weren’t enough Asian actors cast in that awful Avatar: The Last Airbender movie, or Kingsley shows up as Mandarin, we’re allowed to get upset. I’m seriously not trying to start a flame war, this is something I honestly find fascinating.
]]>By: Sign Aheadhttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1564064
Wed, 24 Oct 2012 06:16:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1564064I’m not sure about the Mandarin. He’s a big reason why I never really followed the Iron Man comics. But I have to admit that I’m intrigued by the idea of a Mandarin who uses cultural appropriation as part of his villainy. It makes him evil in a very special way.
]]>By: LogrusZedhttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1563929
Wed, 24 Oct 2012 01:21:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1563929 Oh I know it’s not Osborne, but that color scheme (admittedly something that no non-comic reader will even notice) is just so out of place and it leads to all kinds of really bad thoughts about “why”.
]]>By: AwesomeRobothttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1563912
Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:50:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1563912It’s not the Iron Patriot, they just grabbed the Iron Patriot color scheme and used it on War Machine — in some of the promo photos you can see that the armor says Rhodes on it.
]]>By: Conrad Constantinehttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1563821
Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:58:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1563821Anyone else bothered by the Mandarin’s poor grammar? “Heroes, there IS no such THING” .. I would have figured our villain to be a touch more classically educated.
]]>By: enterthestoryhttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1563791
Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:26:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1563791Agreed. Ben was great in Thunderbirds.
]]>By: Repurposedhttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1563776
Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:10:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1563776The character is essentially a racist stereotype. If you want to avoid offending anyone, don’t use him. If you use him, embrace his ethnicity – but give him a more racially sympathetic portrayal. As a Chinese person, this is all I ask.
]]>By: Snighttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1563749
Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:40:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1563749That’s the sort of thing my Dad (retired Army) would know and mention. He doesn’t really like this genre, and I don’t think he’s going to see this one, so thanks for channeling him, I appreciate it. We were watching “300”, and a horseman rode off, and he whispered “anachronism, no stirrups back then”, wikipedia agreed with him.
]]>By: Antinous / Moderatorhttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1563713
Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:05:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1563713His birth name is Krishna Pandit Bhanji. His grandfather was from India and his father was born in Kenya. Does your computer not connect to Google?
]]>By: LogrusZedhttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1563701
Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:57:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1563701I don’t know why Iron Patriot is even in this. They could have gone with the Armor Wars (IM 225-231) for a good source and a story that works perfectly with his previously established film cannon; Tony Stark found out his Stark-Tech has leaked and goes about trying to shut it all down. This, as a concept, is easily understood by both the existing film audience and new viewers and does not require overlooking things like Mandarins ten rings which will almost certainly end up in the film as a jewelry fetish and not the propulsion system for an alien space ship that crashed in China that was piloted by a giant shape-shifting dragon.
]]>By: Antinous / Moderatorhttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1563697
Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:56:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1563697There are loads of Chinese actors in Hollywood. Just look at the cast of any film set in Japan.
]]>By: LogrusZedhttp://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/iron-man-3-trailer.html#comment-1563686
Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:48:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=189264#comment-1563686The Chinese put up money for the film and insisted some of it be filmed in China and that the Chinese not be a villain.
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