My 89 year old Mother in law (a conservative) is spending Thanksgiving with me and my family. My wife has requested that her looney left wing grandchildren be allowed to visit with "Granny" on Saturday. They voted Obama and are in their 20's and are actually very nice people. However, I've made it clear that I can not tolerate Obama voters in my house. Nice or not, family or otherwise. I'm still on the fence because I do love my Mother in law. What do you think? Also, are there others with similar problems?

My family voted for Romney in 2012, McCain in 2008, Bush in 200,2004 and Bush in 1992. And Conservatives in the State races. And so did I. If that is voting to destroy the Country, so be it. I plead guilty. You got me.

Have the kids over. They're young and dumb. Use the opportunity to inflict your own conservative propaganda on them. Just smile when they say something idiotic and correct them. But always smile.

I've got a very lib step-daughter who never shies away from voicing her liberal convictions. But I have to bite my tongue, because if I get into an argument i.e. friendly discussion about politics, she gets perturbed and has shut out other family members (like her mother-in-law) for trivialities. I wouldn't want to be responsbible for my wife not being able to see her grandchildren. So I smile and say nothing when she says stupid things.

My parents are conservatives, they were even friends of the Reagans, however, my siblings, not so much. All are Obama voters even though they talk a good game about not being Obama voters. Interestingly, all of them also rely on my parents for free money to some degree. I don’t and never have.

Am I loney? Nope. I could live in a cave all by myself. Not having those freeloaders in my life has been great. I cut them off about six years ago and things couldn’t be better in that department.

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posted on 11/20/2012 2:33:11 PM PST
by CodeToad
(Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)

I've read the entire thread (to post 113, IIRC), and I find myself at times agreeing with those on both sides of the issue. In the last ten or so years, most of our family has moved to Florida and Texas and since we live in Massachusetts, that's quite a distance to travel "over the river and through the woods", so we are spared having to make your difficult decision.

Best wishes and God bless you. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving, whatever you choose to do!

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posted on 11/20/2012 2:45:17 PM PST
by trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)

No, Obemba voters are NOT nice people. If they voted for Obemba then they are ENEMIES and should be treated thusly.

I have a stepson who is a liberal/Obemba voter. He knows the he is not to bring up politics while he will be here this weekend. His mother has already informed him that if he does, I’ll run him the hell out of my house.

My entire family will tell you quickly that I am a hardheaded a-hole. Once I draw the line, that's it. My mother would not be allowed on my property if she supported obama and she knows it. We have parted ways for several years before over less.

This is WAR for the survival of the Republic which equals freedom and liberty for all.

I have a sister, in fact, my only sister,that I haven’t spoken to in years because of her liberal political views. I don’t care if they are family or not, I have drawn the line, you are either with us or you are against us.

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posted on 11/20/2012 3:00:40 PM PST
by Quickgun
(I came here screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)

I don’t know about how many of them flirted with communism. You mean the Progressives? The thirties were just not ever covered when I was in school. They used to end the history with WWI, saying that WWII was not far enough in the past to evaluate either the run up to it, the war itself or the aftermath. Heck they barely even covered the depression, except to say that it happened as a result of traders buying on margin.

That’s part of the reason that I was so interested in reading the book, In the Garden of the Beasts. It was written from actual journals of the ambassador to Germany during the thirties.

You can be cordial. Cordial is non-commital, changes the subject when the awkward and contriverisal is raised. Cordial does not particularly like the person, but embraces the situation or the holiday and stands above the pettiness of disagreements.

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posted on 11/20/2012 3:13:56 PM PST
by Chickensoup
(Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)

Treat them the way they think. After they fill their plates and sit down, confiscate half the food and tell them you are donating it to the homeless.

If they complain, tell them they are greedy evil bastards that don’t want to pay their fair share.

Buy or rent tents for them to stay in outside the house and call it “Occupy My Lawn” and inform them if they complain they are nothing but 1% greedy evil bastards that hate the poor and want college kids to have to pay back their school loans.

Put a TAX on everything in the house they’ll use like toilet paper and ice and water, etc. Tell them you run a “progressive house”.

If they whine, call them evil Republicans.

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posted on 11/20/2012 3:23:17 PM PST
by Fledermaus
(The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)

If pettiness of disagreement is how you define voting for Obama, you are totally clueless as to the dire situation the nation is in. Totally. Tootalu.

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Yes I consider voting for Hussein a mortal sin. Yes, I understand that the country is in dire straits. This is a short holiday meal with lifelong family members, not the Committee of Correspondence. Politics can be checked at the door.

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posted on 11/20/2012 3:27:26 PM PST
by Chickensoup
(Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)

Personally I think you are doing your 89 yr old MIL a favor by not inviting her liberal grandkids over. How depressing to know that your GKs voted for Obama. My mom was VERY conservative and it would have killed her during her last years to find out that any of her family was stupid enough to vote for Obama. Fortunately everyone in the immediate family is conservative so we don’t need to deal with any liberals during the holidays. Legacy is important to people in the twilight of their life and I think it is important that your MIL be surrounded with family who will reflect her conservative values and won’t cause her distress. Just remember those Grand kids knowingly voted for a guy who would give their grandma a pill instead of medical treatment so they can have free birth control and student debt relief.

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posted on 11/20/2012 3:28:34 PM PST
by happyhomemaker
(Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer. Rom 12:12)

The election may be over but we now are stuck with dealing with the consequences of that election brought about by the liberal dopes that voted for Obama. I doubt I would be able to sit at the same table with any of them.

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posted on 11/20/2012 3:28:34 PM PST
by heylady
(Sometimes I wish I could be a Democrat and then I remember I have a soul.( Deb))

Again, if you think politics can be checked at the door, I still say you are clueless as to the dire situation the country is in. Nothing is petty, and nothing can be “checked at the door” in a nation that is falling apart. That is my point. You don’t get it. You think it’s bad, but you don’t understand how serious it is.

Have them over and rip the bark off their backsides.This bullshit of being nice to family who are idiots is plain stupid.Just remember your immediate family will suffer because of their stupidity.Got the right frame of mind yet?I have a stupid brother that I plan to rip the bark off during Christmas in Texas.I suffer no liberals and that includes supposed family.

Again, if you think politics can be checked at the door, I still say you are clueless as to the dire situation the country is in. Nothing is petty, and nothing can be checked at the door in a nation that is falling apart. That is my point. You dont get it. You think its bad, but you dont understand how serious it is.

Thats fine. You will soon enough.
__________________

I understand how bad it is. I am not a drama queen about it but I understand. CWII will make CWI look like a walk in the park.

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posted on 11/20/2012 3:33:31 PM PST
by Chickensoup
(Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)

You could always invite them over to visit while making crystal clear to them (not her) that you are only doing it as a concession to your regard for her. I see lots of talk about family, but I don’t think “family” votes to use the state to steal your wealth and liberty.

“However, I’ve made it clear that I can not tolerate Obama voters in my house.”
They can meet her out in the front yard, the barn, or a handy tool shed. Perhaps a car port. Sophistry, but it allows you to keep your word and still act in an accommodating way towards the Bolshevists.

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posted on 11/20/2012 3:45:02 PM PST
by GenXteacher
(You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)

Hypothetical: You’re a 20-something conservative. You want to visit your 89-year-old grandmother, whom you love even though she’s a liberal. Alas, she’s spending the holiday at the home of your uncle or stepfather, who’s a diehard leftist and who refuses to allow into his house anyone who didn’t vote for Obama.

Would this experience cause you, as a young conservative, to see the error of your ways, and realize that there were bad consequences to your conservatism, and have a conversion? Would you ask the family liberals where you can send a donation to help re-elect Al Franken?

Or would you just think that the Obama partisan was being a jerk?

Most of us would go with “jerk.” You should figure that, with the shoe on the other foot, the grandkids would answer the same way. You can believe that the country is in mortal danger and yet also believe that excluding these relatives from your house would do no practical good whatsoever.

Now that I think about it, my own grandfather was accused of being a communist and was reported to the HUAC and was investigated by the FBI for years. It was all a lie, though. It was the CIO that reported him.

My grandfather had been elected the first president of the Electrical Workers and Machinists at RCA and the CIO officials were not pleased. They tried to get him moved to management so that he couldn’t serve, but my grandfather refused. So, he was run down by a hit and run driver before he could take office, but he didn’t die.

RCA responded by closing the plant and moving to Indiana and the people of Camden County responded by electing my grandfather to the NJ State Assembly. He only served one term before the CIO accused him of being a communist. It was a particularly serious charge because my grandfather was the model maker for RCA and had a top security clearance. It just about ruined his life. I bet if he had been a communist, he would have been the only communist that was also an elder of the Methodist Church.

My wife is a Democrat. We manage to get along just fine. I don’t tell her how to vote, she doesn’t tell me how to vote, we agree to disagree about the things we disagree on and we always remember that at the end of the day our marriage means more to us then our politics.

Everybody is different I guess. Me, I think family is more important then politics. As somebody else on this thread pointed out, in a few years Obama will be ancient history, but your family will always be your family.

With due respect, this is not merely politics. If you think that is the case, you do not understand what is going on at all. If you think Obama will ever be ancient history, you do not know what is going on. I can only assume you have a job or an income stream that is temporarily immune to the destruction.

When an Obama Care bureaucrat pulls the plug on you, I wonder what you will think “politics” is about then?

I didn’t say everything was fine and dandy, and I’m painfully aware of the consequences of elections.

People can be civil for one day. I will be civil when I go to my MIL’s house for Thanksgiving with my idiot liberal brother-in-law. If I refuse to go, the state of the country will not change one iota and my MIL will be the one hurt. I choose not to do that to her.

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