Welcome to the MSGKnickz33 Pregame show, Im your host the Gold Mac 10 and I would like to welcome you to the show. The Knicks are coming off a bad loss to Cleveland. The final score was 119 to 101, but the Cavs were up by 29 at the end of the 3rd quarter so the loss is worse then it looks. At the same time, it only counts as one loss and the Knicks need to move on. Al Harrington struggled in his Knicks debut, shooting 5 for 16 but he did score 13 points and he also had 9 rebounds. Quentin Richardson led the Knicks with 22 points on 8 for 19 shooting. Tim Thomas didn't waste any time getting back to what he did a couple of years ago under with the Suns, when he was coached by Mike D'antoni. He scored 16 points in 24 minutes, and had 6 rebounds to go along with 4 assists. I expect the Knicks offense to get better game by game. This was a rough game for them but tomorrow they got an old opponent (the Pistons), and I can see them winning.

The three newly acquired players will give the knicks more offense and defense, but they lose alot of rebounding. Zach Randolph was doing a great job on the boards, averaging 12.5 rebounds per game. The 2nd best scoring team in the NBA will have to step it up even more to make up for their lack of rebounding. Tim Thomas, Al Harrington, and Cuttino Mobley are all capable of knocking down open jumpshots. Harrington is the most versatile and the best all around of the three, but I believe Mobley will have a bigger impact then most Knicks fans are expecting. More to come on Mobley later in the show.

The Detroit Pistons had a great run, but its over now. Their 21st in points scored per game, and 14th in points allowed per game. They're still a top 5 team in the east, but they no longer have what it takes to compete with Cleveland, Boston, Atlanta, Toronto, and Orlando. Like I said, its over for Detroit. On Sunday night they took one of the worst beatings they've taken since....last year on the night of the super bowl, when the Knicks put a beating on them. The Minnesota Timberwolves beat the Pistons 106-80. The only player on Detroit thats worth mentioning is Tayshaun Prince, who scored 20 points (8-13). In my opinion, at this point hes the best player on the Pistons with Rip Hamilton in 2nd.

Q-Rich is off to a better start this year. All of his numbers are up and hes shooting better. Richardson was chose by default, because the starting lineup is not certain for the Knicks. Q-rich vs Prince is better then Duhon vs Iverson, and Kwame vs Lee.

What I wanna see from Richardson is defense. Prince is the 3rd best scorer on Detroit, but his field goal percentage is higher then every starter except Kwame Brown, whos a bum and doesn't count. Prince has a nice short range hook shot and he can knock down the open jumper. Richardson is much stronger, and will use his strength to keep Prince out of the paint. Last year against Detroit, Q-Rich was terrible.

3 Games vs Detroit (last Year)

22mpg
3.3ppg
3.3rpg
50fg&#37;
0% 3PT

He wasn't much of a factor on offense at all. He can and will do better Wednesday night in Detroit (Its not like that will be difficult).

Tayshaun Prince

Tayshaun Prince, as i already stated is the best player on Detroit in my opinion. Hes a good scorer, rebounder, passer, team player, and defender. At age 28, hes in his prime but unfortunately the rest of the team is past their prime :lol:

4 Games vs Knicks (Last Year)

31mpg
13ppg
5.5rpg
37.3fg%
28.6% 3PT

Prince's numbers were also below his averages against the Knicks last year. Richardson vs Prince will be a fun matchup to watch defensively, but it doesn't show promise of being a good matchup offensively. Defense is a very important part of the game and a player doesn't have to average 20 points a game to be a good player. If I'm building a team, I'm looking to build around defense first. It is defense that wins championships. Thats how Detroit won back in 2004 and thats also how the Smelltics won the championship last year.

The Official MSG33 Pregame Strategy:

Ball movement!!!

Run!!! Old Pistons cant keep up

Contest every shot from Rip Hamilton. Hes a great shooter, especially from mid-range

Watch out for Stuckey and Maxiell off the bench. They can quickly change the momentum

I keep saying that i think Cuttino Mobley will prove people wrong. Hes a better shooter, rebounder, and defender then Crawford. I believe that Mike D'antoni's system will be a great fit for him. Hes a good shooter, and at age 33 he still has some hops. He can get to the rim and throw it down over the defense. Hes gotten off to a slow start with the Clippers, who aren't far at all from the bottom of the Western Conference. It's impossible to be at the bottom. That would mean that you would have to be worse then the D-League Oklahoma Thunder.

Like I said, hes still got game. In the last video, after hitting a 3 pointer he stripped the ball from his opponent and then hit another 3 pointer from the corner to win the game. I don't think it will be long before Knicks fans start to like him and forget about Crawford.

I was going to ask for you to wait to make this til late tonight.. but since the game is so terrible why bother

Nov 25, 2008, 20:03

MSGKnickz33

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Originally Posted by jpz17

I was going to ask for you to wait to make this til late tonight.. but since the game is so terrible why bother

its not done yet....still got pics of zbo :lol:

Im goin to bed after the game...long day @ work tomorrow. I was gonna have someone else make it but since were doing so bad i chose to make it now

Nov 25, 2008, 20:10

jpz17

yeah.. I claimed this game back a month ago.. but in the pm I told you to make it, probably why you made it.. but yeah, I'm real glad I didn't make it, every time I make one they LOSE! tuner is 1-0 so far

Nov 25, 2008, 20:34

KING~POETIQ

It was a good thread until I saw tim duncan and jamal crawford. Wats up with that? Putting up the cheerleaders is a plus. But that kid looks like he's rubbing one out.

Nov 25, 2008, 20:51

abcd

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpz17

yeah.. I claimed this game back a month ago.. but in the pm I told you to make it, probably why you made it.. but yeah, I'm real glad I didn't make it, every time I make one they LOSE! tuner is 1-0 so far

I'm 1-0, too. The Knicks beat the D-League Thunder. :lol:

Nov 25, 2008, 20:55

abcd

The Pistons should beat the Knicks tomorrow. They got too much talent for the Knicks to handle. Allen Iverson, Rip Hamilton, Tayshaun Pince, Rasheed Wallace...

Nov 25, 2008, 21:16

MSGKnickz33

game thread complete....except for the highlights of tonights game which will be added tomorrow morning. Sly1984 cant read :lol:

For some reason i think the knicks will win. The Pistons are on the decline. If we run alot, and make our shots this is a game i see us winning. Were 7-7 right now, so if we wanna stay above 500 its a must win.

Nov 25, 2008, 21:19

DaTPRiNCE

nice thread MSG great to have you back at it...and thanks for making the tread quickly we gotta move past that horrible showing vs the cavs....and highlights?what highlights were there any vs. the Cav's if so lemme know

Nov 25, 2008, 21:20

JayJ44

The game thread is looking really good, MSG. I'm loving that one hit wonder pic, lmao.

I'm expecting Iverson to have a high scoring night. With his ability to get to the basket, and our crappy defense he should pretty much be able to do whatever he wants. Hopefully, Duhon can defend him well, but he should still score well, not many people can guard Iverson one-on-one. Plus, we don't have anyone who can guard Rasheed Wallace. He's taller than all of our team (I think) so he should score a lot too. This will be a very difficult game for us, and I'm expecting the Pistons to dominate.

Nov 25, 2008, 21:22

TunerAddict

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpz17

yeah.. I claimed this game back a month ago.. but in the pm I told you to make it, probably why you made it.. but yeah, I'm real glad I didn't make it, every time I make one they LOSE! tuner is 1-0 so far

Man I know...Secret is to be negative. Then they read that we think they're crap and get motivated lol

Nov 25, 2008, 21:26

jpz17

Quote:

Originally Posted by TunerAddict

Man I know...Secret is to be negative. Then they read that we think they're crap and get motivated lol

if that were the case we would have went undefeated last year.. msg made all of them

Nov 25, 2008, 21:29

MSGKnickz33

Somehow, i was positive with most of my game threads. I dont know how....But thats what we needed with the team being as bad as it was. This year, i thought some of my earlier game threads were too negative. I tried to sh!t on the pistons with this one instead of the knicks, even after the beating we just took. And that pic of the pistons is hilarious, the one i got at the end of the thread :lol:

Thats one of my favorites :lol:

Nov 25, 2008, 21:38

DaTPRiNCE

Mobley is very underrated and i already am past Crawford...Mobley is a great outside shooter and could defense so our defense is getting better slowly but we lack some serious size...Jeffries wont make a huge difference....lets just try and limit them on the perimeter and actually sync together on offense

Nov 25, 2008, 23:19

abcd

Jamal Crawford was playing real good this season. I doubt Cuttino Mobley will be able to play at that level. Crawford is better than 33 year old Mobley, in my opinion. Mobley at his best is better than Crawford, but he's not at his best. I do like the fact that Mobley can play defense, though. Maybe that'll help the Knicks win some games.