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H_JUD_2018A 04/24/2018 12:03:13 PM Committee Summary

PUBLICSTAFF SUMMARY OF MEETINGHOUSECOMMITTEE ONJUDICIARY

Date

04/24/2018

Attendance

Benavidez

X

Carver

X

Herod

X

Lundeen

X

Melton

X

Roberts

X

Weissman

X

Willett

X

Wist

X

Salazar

X

Lee

X

Time

12:03:13 PM to 04:40:57 PM

Place

HCR 0112

This Meeting was called to order by

Lee

This Report was prepared by

Bo Pogue

Hearing Items

Action Taken

hSB18-031

Referred to House Legislative Council

hHB18-1404

Amended, referred to the Committee of the Whole

hHB18-1230

Committee Discussion Only

hSB18-123

Postponed Indefinitely

SB18-031 - Referred to House Legislative Council

12:04:23 PM

The committee was called to order. All members were present. Representative Foote, prime sponsor, presented Senate Bill 18-031, concerning an extension of the title 12 recodification study being conducted by the Office of Legislative Legal Services. The committee discussed the need for the legislation. No one testified regarding the bill, and no amendments were offered.

12:19:59 PM

Representative Willett explained his position on SB 18-031. Representative Foote provided closing remarks in support of the bill.

The committee returned to order. Representative Coleman, prime sponsor, presented House Bill 18-1404, concerning public disclosure of a completed peace officer internal investigation file. Representative Coleman discussed the need for transparency in law enforcement investigations, and discussed the merits of the legislation. He also explained the effect of the bill, and discussed the stakeholder process that crafted the bill. Representative Williams joined Representative Coleman in support of the bill.

12:42:00 PM

Mr. Don Sisson, representing the Fraternal Order of Police, testified in opposition to the bill. Mr. Sisson explained that law enforcement investigations are already subject to public investigation, and discussed the methods by which the evidence becomes public. Mr. Sisson discussed some cases involving law enforcement investigations, and explained how current law protects privacy and balances transparency. Discussion ensued regarding the cases that Mr. Sisson referenced, and certain court rulings that bear on the issue.

12:55:46 PM

Mr. Sisson responded to questions regarding court opinion concerning the right of privacy for police officers, and the process involved when an officer is charged with a crime, particularly the internal investigation. He responded to further questions regarding the types of information that law enforcement seeks to protect from public view during internal investigations. Discussion returned to jurisprudence associated with the issues addressed by HB 18-1404.

01:12:35 PM

Mr. Sisson responded to questions regarding the types of information that would be subject to public release under HB 18-1404, and safeguards against groundless or frivolous information requests associated with law enforcement internal investigations.

01:25:23 PM

Chief Michael Phibbs, representing the Colorado Association of Chiefs of Police, Chief Ed Brady, representing the Colorado Municipal League and the City of Arvada, and Mr. Ron Sloan, representing the Colorado Association of Chiefs of Police, testified in opposition to the bill. Chief Phibbs explained why the bill is overly broad, and noted certain abuses that might take place under the bill. He also addressed questions raised during earlier testimony. Chief Brady discussed the administrative and economic burdens that HB 18-1404 would place on law enforcement. Mr. Sloan explained how the bill will have a deterrent effect on conducting quality internal investigations, and result in lack of cooperation from law enforcement. He responded to questions regarding potential solutions to the problems addressed by the bill. Discussion ensued regarding the mechanics of law enforcement internal investigations, and police non-cooperation with investigations.

01:48:27 PM

Mr. Matt Hader, representing Commerce City and the Colorado Municipal League, testified in opposition to HB 18-1404. He discussed the merits of current law concerning disclosure of law enforcement internal investigations, and explained how the bill abrogates due process. Mr. Hader responded to questions regarding safeguards in the bill, and who has access to internal investigation reports without a court order.

01:58:40 PM

Ms. Denise Maes, and Ms. Rebecca Wallace, representing the ACLU, testified in support of HB 18-1404. Ms. Maes explained that revealing the findings and evidence of an internal affairs investigation currently requires a lawsuit, and addressed assertions made by the opposition. She spoke in support of transparency. Ms. Wallace discussed the problems that HB 18-1404 seeks to address. Committee members received a fact sheet about jurisprudence associated with internal affairs investigation disclosure (Attachment A), and a report from the University of Denver entitled "Access Denied" (Attachment B). Ms. Wallace responded to questions regarding policies in place in other jurisdictions similar to those put in place by the bill. Discussion ensued regarding implementing the processes created by the bill at the municipal level rather than the state level. Discussion followed regarding transparency, and the denial of access to law enforcement internal investigations.

02:18:09 PM

Mr. Dan Montgomery, representing himself, testified in support of the bill. He discussed law enforcement's aversion to negative publicity and lawsuits, and explained the optimum way to conduct an internal affairs investigation. Mr. Montgomery responded to questions regarding difficulties that police departments may face in abiding by HB 18-1404, and the benefits that law enforcement may experience as a result of the bill. Mr. Montgomery responded to further questions regarding internal recommendations.

02:32:53 PM

Mr. Vic Ament, representing himself, testified in support of HB 18-1404. Mr. Ament explained the benefits of creating transparency for internal investigations by the bill. Ms. Susan Green, representing the Colorado Independent, testified in support of the bill. She discussed the disclosure policies in place for internal affairs investigations in Denver, and the events that led to the adoption of these policies. Ms. Elizabeth Steele, representing Common Cause, testified in support of the bill. She discussed the benefits of transparency in police matters, and suggested that there are privacy safeguards in place in the bill. Mr. Jeff Roberts, representing the Colorado Freedom of Information Act Association, testified in support of the bill. He discussed the transparency and integrity aspects of the bill.

02:46:50 PM

Mr. Steve Zansberg, representing the Colorado Independent, testified in support of HB 18-1404. Mr. Zansberg discussed the need for law enforcement to maintain the public trust, and explained how the bill will assist in this regard. Mr. Zansberg responded to questions regarding a police officer's expectation of privacy.

HB18-1230 - Committee Discussion Only

02:56:22 PM

Representative Pabon, prime sponsor, presented House Bill 18-1230, concerning the creation of a purple card program to allow persons who came to the United States without legal documentation to apply for legal work status in Colorado. Representative Pabon explained the effect of the bill and discussed its need. Discussion ensued regarding the interplay between federal law and state law on the issues addressed by the bill. Representative Pabon responded to questions regarding the qualifications that one must meet to attain a "purple card" under the bill.

03:15:38 PM

Mr. Omar Gomez, representing Purple Card, testified in support of the bill. Mr. Gomez explained that he can pay taxes to the federal government for working, but cannot legally work. Reverend Kelly Dignan, representing the Unitarian Universalist Church, testified in support of the bill. She discussed the impact of the bill on communities. Mr. Jesus Medrano, representing himself, testified in support of HB 18-1230. He discussed his business, which employs about 250 people, and explained that he has been unable to hire certain people.

03:22:57 PM

Mr. Stan Garnett, representing himself, testified in support of HB 18-1230. Mr. Garnett discussed certain initiatives he championed in Boulder County for undocumented immigrants, and the genesis of the purple card idea. He addressed questions raised during earlier conversation. Reverend Barbara Mulfese, representing herself, testified in support of the bill. She discussed the need for immigration action at the federal level, and the benefits of addressing certain associated issues more locally. Mr. John Martin, representing himself, testified in support of the bill. Mr. Martin discussed difficulties he faces in attracting employees to his farm. Discussion ensued regarding the ability to attract legally documented residents to certain trades and professions. Discussion ensued about federal laws surrounding access to green cards, and issues of federalism. Representative Lee laid over HB 18-1230 to a later date.

Mr. Phil Goldberg, representing the U.S. Chamber's Institute for Legal Reform, testified in support of the bill. Mr. Goldberg discussed the lack of transparency in asbestos litigation, and certain tactics used in this litigation. Committee members received a form used for proof of claim in an asbestos suit (Attachment D). Mr. Goldberg responded to questions regarding why certain disclosures cannot be made under the current judicial process.

04:00:11 PM

Senator Sonny Borrelli, Arizona State Senator representing himself, testified in support of SB 18-123. Senator Borrelli discussed his reasons for sponsoring legislation similar to the bill in Arizona. Senator Borrelli responded to questions regarding the opinion of the military community on asbestos litigation and legislation similar to SB 18-123.

04:09:20 PM

Mr. Mark Hillman, representing the Colorado Civil Justice League, testified in support of the bill. Discussion ensued regarding how losses are determined in asbestos cases.

04:15:14 PM

Mr. Kevin Hannon, representing the Colorado Trial Lawyers Association, testified in opposition to the bill. He rebutted earlier testimony on transparency and certain allegations about asbestos litigation. Mr. Hannon also discussed certain tactics used by the defense in asbestos litigation. Mr. Jason Wardrip, representing the Colorado Building Trades Council, testified in opposition to the bill. Mr. Wardrip discussed his experience with asbestos exposure, and spoke against allegations of "double-dipping." Mr. Hannon responded to questions regarding tactics used to delay court cases, and having all parties present in court.