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bencooper on "Petition to remove Michael Gove from Office.. please sign"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/petition-to-remove-michael-gove-from-office-please-sign/page/2#post-5663773
Thu, 09 Jan 2014 11:17:20 +0000bencooper5663773@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p><blockquote>My voting form didn't have a Tory box nor a Conservative box, nor a ConDem box, and I'd wager the same was true for every other person on here that put an X in a box.</blockquote></p>
<p>Yes, yes, yes, you vote for a local MP not a party - that's a lovely story. But when MPs almost always follow the party whip, when the party leaders set all policy and the MPs are just there to vote it through, any idea of MPs being independent is a nonsense.</p>
<p>MPs do what they're told - and the people doing the telling aren't their constituents.
</p>andytherocketeer on "Petition to remove Michael Gove from Office.. please sign"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/petition-to-remove-michael-gove-from-office-please-sign/page/2#post-5663403
Thu, 09 Jan 2014 09:32:35 +0000andytherocketeer5663403@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p><blockquote>Did anyone vote for a ConDem coalition?</blockquote><br />
No, because everyone voted for a member to represent the fellow constituents of their constituency.<br />
<blockquote>We've effectively got a Tory government that we didn't vote for.</blockquote><br />
No, you got a ConDem coalition, because that's the way the country as a whole voted, and because no other coalition or minority government could be formed.<br />
My voting form didn't have a Tory box nor a Conservative box, nor a ConDem box, and I'd wager the same was true for every other person on here that put an X in a box.<br />
<blockquote>Tony Blair, in his most popular years, still only managed to get 1 in 5 of the voting age population to vote for him.</blockquote><br />
Not sure of the actual number of people that voted for him but it was much less than 20% of the voting population (edit: it was about 33,000 in 1997 - similar number to those that voted for Gove last time). It might have been more than 50% of the eligible voters in his constituency. One of the few MPs that actually do achieve a proper majority.
</p>robdixon on "Petition to remove Michael Gove from Office.. please sign"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/petition-to-remove-michael-gove-from-office-please-sign/page/2#post-5663398
Thu, 09 Jan 2014 09:31:35 +0000robdixon5663398@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>I'm interested - for those that think he should be removed, who is better placed to take on the role, and what policy changes should be made to drive significant improvements in the performance of our children in Maths, Literacy and Verbal Reasoning?</p>
<p>Given that the performance of children in the UK has been sliding on many international comparators for the last 15 years, what is the root cause and what is the solution?
</p>piemonster on "Petition to remove Michael Gove from Office.. please sign"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/petition-to-remove-michael-gove-from-office-please-sign/page/2#post-5663381
Thu, 09 Jan 2014 09:27:46 +0000piemonster5663381@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>Wot Ben said</p>
<p>And I can't really be bothered to respond to the numerous assumptions that have already occurred in this thread.
</p>bencooper on "Petition to remove Michael Gove from Office.. please sign"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/petition-to-remove-michael-gove-from-office-please-sign/page/2#post-5663365
Thu, 09 Jan 2014 09:23:09 +0000bencooper5663365@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>Voting in general elections doesn't work. Did anyone vote for a ConDem coalition? We've effectively got a Tory government that we didn't vote for.</p>
<p>Tony Blair, in his most popular years, still only managed to get 1 in 5 of the voting age population to vote for him.</p>
<p>The votes of most people don't matter - most people live in safe seats. Elections are decided by a few marginal seats where all the parties concentrate their attention - that's why all three main parties are basically identical.
</p>pdw on "Petition to remove Michael Gove from Office.. please sign"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/petition-to-remove-michael-gove-from-office-please-sign/page/2#post-5663361
Thu, 09 Jan 2014 09:22:14 +0000pdw5663361@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p><blockquote>I wonder how many of you boring whiny moaners ever get involved in politics so you can change things yourself?</blockquote></p>
<p>+1... but who on earth would go into politics when you've got attitudes like:</p>
<p><blockquote>I've done it simply cos he's a politician.</blockquote></p>
<p>You get the politicians you deserve.
</p>GaryLake on "Petition to remove Michael Gove from Office.. please sign"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/petition-to-remove-michael-gove-from-office-please-sign/page/2#post-5663307
Thu, 09 Jan 2014 08:58:00 +0000GaryLake5663307@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>There's a difference between him being an MP and a cabinet minister though – my MP is Liam Fox but he was removed from being defence minister.</p>
<p>I think the petition is a little vague, we don't need him being removed as an MP, just as education minister and that is entirely possible.</p>
<p>Not that I'd have any hope for his successor being any different.
</p>kimbers on "Petition to remove Michael Gove from Office.. please sign"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/petition-to-remove-michael-gove-from-office-please-sign/page/2#post-5663305
Thu, 09 Jan 2014 08:56:58 +0000kimbers5663305@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>the problem is hes got a big majority amongst the legions of (generational) Torry voters in surrey, so youll have spent an awfull lot of money on a tiny house and have arseholes for nieghbours and he'll still get re-elected (coz they all send their kids to private school anyway)
</p>andytherocketeer on "Petition to remove Michael Gove from Office.. please sign"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/petition-to-remove-michael-gove-from-office-please-sign/page/2#post-5663297
Thu, 09 Jan 2014 08:52:19 +0000andytherocketeer5663297@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>What Robdob said.<br />
Most of those signing probably voted for party XYZ* because that's who their dad voted for all his life.</p>
<p>(* even though you don't vote for a party in Westminster elections, you vote for a member to represent you in parliament)</p>
<p><blockquote>Move to Surrey or have Gove in parliament. Bloody hell that's a tough one.</blockquote><br />
There's a trail centre nearby. Might be in a neighbouring constituency, but it's near enough. <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_wink.gif" title=";)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p>rogerthecat on "Petition to remove Michael Gove from Office.. please sign"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/petition-to-remove-michael-gove-from-office-please-sign#post-5663277
Thu, 09 Jan 2014 08:46:59 +0000rogerthecat5663277@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>Pointless guff, if you think they will take notice of 25k+ people signing an online petition when they ignored close to1m people demonstrating against a war then you are sadly deluded.</p>
<p>If it's just a cathartic exercise, knock yourselves out. But as has been said ^^^, if you are really bothered, get organised and use the system in place to remove him.
</p>cloudnine on "Petition to remove Michael Gove from Office.. please sign"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/petition-to-remove-michael-gove-from-office-please-sign#post-5663266
Thu, 09 Jan 2014 08:45:15 +0000cloudnine5663266@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>Dobbie.. it's a petition against a vile twunt of a politician. Sign it and stop trolling.<br />
Most here are too human to get involved in politics.
</p>robdob on "Petition to remove Michael Gove from Office.. please sign"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/petition-to-remove-michael-gove-from-office-please-sign#post-5663237
Thu, 09 Jan 2014 08:30:22 +0000robdob5663237@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>I wonder how many of you boring whiny moaners ever get involved in politics so you can change things yourself? You seem to know a lot more than the people doing things at the moment so you should have no problem getting voted in.
</p>crankboy on "Petition to remove Michael Gove from Office.. please sign"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/petition-to-remove-michael-gove-from-office-please-sign#post-5663228
Thu, 09 Jan 2014 08:24:30 +0000crankboy5663228@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>A general election is where I select a specific individual who I wish to represent me in Parliament . I do not get to vote for a party nor do I get a say in who is in cabinet or what department they run. This petition is more Democratic. Than the once every 4 years musical chairs competition.
</p>jag61 on "Petition to remove Michael Gove from Office.. please sign"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/petition-to-remove-michael-gove-from-office-please-sign#post-5663215
Thu, 09 Jan 2014 08:18:14 +0000jag615663215@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>well that felt good , never felt as strongly about something, what a complete tw@ sadly he/they wont listen to this petition either
</p>matt_outandabout on "Petition to remove Michael Gove from Office.. please sign"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/petition-to-remove-michael-gove-from-office-please-sign#post-5663211
Thu, 09 Jan 2014 08:15:58 +0000matt_outandabout5663211@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>Gove did not have enough hugs as a kid IMO.</p>
<p>I also have a list of the next changes and suggestions he has in mind -they are the ones that Hattie researched as least effective in improving learning - see the bottom 10 <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_wink.gif" title=";)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p>
<p><a href="http://tmsydney.wikispaces.com/file/view/Hattie’s+visible+learning+in+7+minutes.pptx" rel="nofollow">http://tmsydney.wikispaces.com/file/view/Hattie’s+visible+learning+in+7+minutes.pptx</a>
</p>Drac on "Petition to remove Michael Gove from Office.. please sign"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/petition-to-remove-michael-gove-from-office-please-sign#post-5663199
Thu, 09 Jan 2014 08:03:03 +0000Drac5663199@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p><blockquote>Move to Surrey, then you can vote against him next year.</blockquote></p>
<p>Move to Surrey or have Gove in parliament. Bloody hell that's a tough one.
</p>allthepies on "Petition to remove Michael Gove from Office.. please sign"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/petition-to-remove-michael-gove-from-office-please-sign#post-5663191
Thu, 09 Jan 2014 07:56:50 +0000allthepies5663191@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>He's my MP, decent chap <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p>igm on "Petition to remove Michael Gove from Office.. please sign"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/petition-to-remove-michael-gove-from-office-please-sign#post-5663189
Thu, 09 Jan 2014 07:55:42 +0000igm5663189@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>Guys, a general election is a way of removing him from the House of Commons, not from government office. Obviously not all MPs are ministers, but equally you don't need to be an MP to hold a ministerial position - plenty have been Lords in the past and Lords (last time I checked) aren't elected by us. </p>
<p>Now as for removing Gove, I'd happily have him deported from the planet. Can he take George "don't call me Gideon 'cos people might think I'm posh" Osbourne with him?
</p>onehundredthidiot on "Petition to remove Michael Gove from Office.. please sign"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/petition-to-remove-michael-gove-from-office-please-sign#post-5663161
Thu, 09 Jan 2014 07:36:30 +0000onehundredthidiot5663161@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>Surely this is increased democracy?</p>
<p>In a true democracy we would vote for individuals for each post (obviously not possible) not political parties that place whichever greasy pole climber will aid the leaders aims in that position.</p>
<p>Something like this lets the politicians know that the electorate at large do not agree with a particular stand point.
</p>kimbers on "Petition to remove Michael Gove from Office.. please sign"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/petition-to-remove-michael-gove-from-office-please-sign#post-5663137
Thu, 09 Jan 2014 07:04:05 +0000kimbers5663137@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>His recent petty attempts to politicize the world war I centenary were disgraceful
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