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Sep 24 10 4:17 PM

Here is some information I just receive from AFPC concerning CRSC.

1. No action until 60 days (1 Nov)2. Must wait for DOD to approve the payout/funds.3. The CRSC is paid out by VA Rating Codes that reference IHD.4 The furthest the retro pay goes back for CRSC is 6 years.5. They have a 7 month backlog of records. They figure the average wait time for CRSC approval is 6 months.6. They hope to publicize more details if they get approval/funding to do so.

Hope this is informative. If anyone else comes up with more current/better info or contradictory info I would hope they share.

retiredatlast wrote:Here is some information I just receive from AFPC concerning CRSC.

1. No action until 60 days (1 Nov)2. Must wait for DOD to approve the payout/funds.3. The CRSC is paid out by VA Rating Codes that reference IHD.4 The furthest the retro pay goes back for CRSC is 6 years.5. They have a 7 month backlog of records. They figure the average wait time for CRSC approval is 6 months.6. They hope to publicize more details if they get approval/funding to do so.

Hope this is informative. If anyone else comes up with more current/better info or contradictory info I would hope they share

Wow, it been a while since I've posted. Are we any clearer on CRSC for IHD. The most that you can get for retro is 6 years. Wow, that do not help me. If they would have approved this mess, I could go back to June 2003 for Code 7005. I was rated at 100% in May 2000 for CAD under 7005. I applied in 2007 and was turned down. Thanks for the update

Just out of curiosity, if you don't mind telling. What was your actual condition that gave you your first rating. I had an MI in 1979 and the VA did not give me a numeric rating code (7xxx) but only called it an MI. Somewhere along the way they changed it to 7006 (probably when I had a CABG 7017 in 1996) Just wondering how this will all work out for me if I do not have the magical rating code (7005 or something else). Any idea what the code could be to include all the new cardio presumptives

retiredatlast wrote:Just out of curiosity, if you don't mind telling. What was your actual condition that gave you your first rating. I had an MI in 1979 and the VA did not give me a numeric rating code (7xxx) but only called it an MI. Somewhere along the way they changed it to 7006 (probably when I had a CABG 7017 in 1996) Just wondering how this will all work out for me if I do not have the magical rating code (7005 or something else). Any idea what the code could be to include all the new cardio presumptives

I am rated CAD under 7005, that the VA listed as secondary to hypertension. I had a heart attack in 1997 and the VA rated me 100 under 7005. Hope the VA grant my request and list my 7005 as presumptive to AO. I think the AF CRSC is still looking for my 7005 to tied to AO and not secondary to hypertension. Just have to wait and see what the outcome will be.

af2543 wrote:
I feel you and i will get Retro back to June, 2003. I was rated 30% for CAD /AHD on Jan 1, 1990. Will we get paid anything prior to June, 2003? Have to see how the VA/AF rules.

Do you have anything in writing that we will be retro back to June 2003?

Even though they told me they would only go back 6 years, depending on the "cheat sheet" they were using to answer question, I would guess it could easily go back to the inception of the CRSC program. As you said we just have to wait to see the outcome.

All of my ratings for CAD/AHD have been coded 7005 from Jan. 1990 to my latest rating increase to 60% in Jan., 2010. The C&P DR. gave me a mets of 4. I have my doubts if we will get any Retro prior to 2003 because up until then our retirement pay was reduced one dollar for every dollar we got from the VA. The only thing we got was a tax deduction. That's why CRDP was started in 2004. but we are still paying our own disability pay until 2014 unless we are rated 100 %, then we get it all.

Got this from the DFAS website. "CRSC Benefits before January 2004 are based on the VA compensation rate for a " veteran alone" and applicable to only those disabilities determined as combat related". It also said they use the rating % as compensated for the CURRENT month by the VA. In my case, 60%. After January, 2004, DFAS and VA would have to figure in CRDP for a total Retro. For me it should mean 168 months x 60% veteran alone + 84 x 60% with Spouse of CRDP for a total 252 months. My combined rating is 80% as of Jan. 2010. 60% CAD/AHD/IHD. I'll have to see it to believe it! Too much to comprehend. Should be very, very, interesting. Stay tuned for the final outcome of this adventure.

retiredatlast wrote:Just out of curiosity, if you don't mind telling. What was your actual condition that gave you your first rating. I had an MI in 1979 and the VA did not give me a numeric rating code (7xxx) but only called it an MI. Somewhere along the way they changed it to 7006 (probably when I had a CABG 7017 in 1996) Just wondering how this will all work out for me if I do not have the magical rating code (7005 or something else). Any idea what the code could be to include all the new cardio presumptives

Did you get another letter and also did you asked for reconsideration?

JDI did not receive a letter from AFDP/CRSC. I had submitted a reconsideration package on 10 Sept and I called them to find out if they had received it. The clerk at CRSC verified it was in my file and the info I post came from her. I wanted to find out how they would cover the new cardio presumptives that were posted in the new AO reg. Without listing each one under the CAD rating code 7005, I think a lot of people will fall thru the cracks, as I would even though I had an MI and CABG. That is when she told me they had to wait for DOD to tell them what to do and they would only rate by the codes they were given. I think it going to be a long road for many qualifiers but some will not be around to receive their just compensation.

Here is a reply from AFCRSC that I received when I queried the status of their responses to CRSC requests.

"Good Afternoon -- the VA has not yet given the Services implementationinstructions for these new presumptive so at this point we are unable toapprove any of them as combat-related. Once the VA has published the new guidelines, they will be posted totheir website at http://www.va.gov/".

Here is a reply from AFCRSC that I received when I queried the status of their responses to CRSC requests.

"Good Afternoon -- the VA has not yet given the Services implementationinstructions for these new presumptive so at this point we are unable toapprove any of them as combat-related. Once the VA has published the new guidelines, they will be posted totheir website at http://www.va.gov/".

Hope this additional information is helpful.

Do you expect to get anything from the VA in order to provide to CRSC? From the above, it look like VA will notify CRSC on the final guidelines. Just guessing

That's the way I see it. I should not have to provide anything else to CRSC unless they ask for it. I have already provided all the required paper work. There response indicate acceptance/declination of request will begin when they have their final marching orders from the VA. If they decline my request, I will resubmit my paperwork to the VRO so, hopefully, they can get it straightened out.

The VA does has something to do with all this................but my experience with the AF to date has been to pass the buck and delay what we are owed as long as possible! Why don't the AF contact the VA for guidance and let us know what's going on? The CRSC office is not on our side.............. worse than the VA 20 years ago. Ready to go to my congressman. The AF web site hasn't been updated in 2 years!

When I was awarded CRSC for DB2, as a presumptive, I had no problem with AFCRSC. The VA awarded me 20% disability and I sent that award letter along with my DD Form 2860 to Randolph and received my compensation in short order (don't remember the specific time frame). I have to expect the same kind of efficiency for IHD, but a bit slower due to the number of possible claims. Just my opinion.

af2543 wrote:The VA does has something to do with all this................but my experience with the AF to date has been to pass the buck and delay what we are owed as long as possible! Why don't the AF contact the VA for guidance and let us know what's going on? The CRSC office is not on our side.............. worse than the VA 20 years ago. Ready to go to my congressman. The AF web site hasn't been updated in 2 years!

I am in complete agreement with you. It will not surprise me if the AF CRSC drop the ball on this. This don't look good to me. Too much wavering

I completely agree! I have called AF CRSC and they are always full of excuses...........the latest being they are 4 to 6 months behind. That means we are looking at April or May, 2011. If they would just keep us updated we wouldn't feel like Mushrooms!

af2543 wrote:I completely agree! I have called AF CRSC and they are always full of excuses...........the latest being they are 4 to 6 months behind. That means we are looking at April or May, 2011. If they would just keep us updated we wouldn't feel like Mushrooms!

Mr xxxxxxxxxx, We are really close to getting something from OSD (Office of
Secretary of Defense) regarding the new presumptive conditions. I hope
that we can resolve this in your claim that we are soon approaching
working. I will ask OSD when I talk to them this week, how soon we
should receive guidance. Hope all is well. I know this has been a long
and painfully waiting situation but hope you understand the situation we
(the services) are in.
Well this is the latest update - We will see

af2543 wrote:
I completely agree! I have called AF CRSC and they are always full of excuses...........the latest being they are 4 to 6 months behind. That means we are looking at April or May, 2011. If they would just keep us updated we wouldn't feel like Mushrooms!

Mr xxxxxxxxxx, We are really close to getting something from OSD (Office of
Secretary of Defense) regarding the new presumptive conditions. I hope
that we can resolve this in your claim that we are soon approaching
working. I will ask OSD when I talk to them this week, how soon we
should receive guidance. Hope all is well. I know this has been a long
and painfully waiting situation but hope you understand the situation we
(the services) are in.
Well this is the latest update - We will see

This pretty much coincides with what I was told in Sept. Thanks for the update.