I question whether anyone in this show can really be classified as a Hypercompetent Sidekick. While there are those who take sidekicky roles, and they are indeed very competent, so are their corresponding main characters. Take for example Phineas (he has both Ferb and Isabella listed as these to him on their character pages).

I thought it was supposed to be for situations where the whole thing would fall apart if the sidekick wasn't there (like Shego -> Drakken in Kim Possible). In all of the examples for this show, that is simply not the case.

Awhile ago, I noticed that Ferb, Isabella, Baljeet, and Buford all seem to be in some way based off of Phineas, with Ferb having all the intelligence and creativity but not the ambition, Isabella having all the creativity and ambition but not the intelligence, Baljeet having all the intelligence and ambition but not the creativity, and Buford serving as Phineas's polar opposite.

I had to hack through the Radar page with a heated machete because it was such a mess. You may contest specific items either here or on the Forums; I've got a thread for this specific page in the Special Efforts subforum and I'll be happy to talk it out with you here, there or by PM (although I prefer to do so where other tropers can see and have input.)

Before you contest something's removal, however, ask the following questions:

Is this something that would even run afoul of censorship guidelines?

Is there any possible way the censors could have missed this or misunderstood its intent?

As far as I can tell, there never has been one. There is an entry for it on the YMMV tab.

albertonykus

06:58:17 AM Jul 10th 2012

There actually was one (see the page history); I've edited it myself. It was cutlisted during the site-wide purging of Nightmare Fuel pages. But given that Nightmare Fuel pages have been restored for quite a few works, perhaps it could be reinstated.

Two times in the series, as long as I know, was showd what would happen if they were caught, and one of those times it had dramatic conseguences.
I think the second one was made for those people who where sympatethic with Candece.
Good thing that in both cases there was a reset button

I don't know about you, but a lot of what's shown on the show is actually fesable in real life. Case in point, The Song Mix And Mingle Machine. And here's how:

The Verses

Now, we all know how each line of the verses are all sung by different people. Here's how to get that chatroulette-like effect. First, you get five cameras (I'll call ours Camera 1, Camera 2, Camera 3, Camera 4, and Camera C ('C' for Candace)). Next, you designate a certain number of people for each camera. Then you put them in order from right to left that the camera would film them in. In the case of this number, it would be rounded out like so:

Here's how you film the whole shebang. When filming begins, Camera 1 will be on the Guy in Red Shirt, Camera 2 will be on the Guy in Orange Hat, Camera 3 will be on the Teenage restaraunt employee, Camera 4 will be on the Twins, and Camera C will, of course, be on Candace. Camera C is immobile. Camera's 1-4 are not. They'll be on tracks paralell to the singers. Once the director says 'Action', the lyrics will be said in order, but here's where the trick comes in. As soon as the Guy in Red Shirt is done, and the Guy in Orange Hat says his line, Camera 1 will move from the Guy in Red Shirt to the Raker. As soon as the Guy in Orange Hat is done, Camera 2 will move to the Maracas Guy. Camera 3 will move to Guy who takes off pants after the Teenage restaraunt employee, and so on. This will continue until Igor's done at which point, the director will yell 'Cut' and the lyrics will have been filmed.

The segues between people will be used by carefully editing the footage from the waiting cameras in a way that looks like quick movement.

And as for the rooster, since he talks, he'll be animated seperately, either with stop motion animation or CGI.

Chorus

This part's easier to understand. 49 people are used to sing the chorus. Each person will be recorded seperately and the whole thing will be edited together in post-production, their lines having already be prerecorded. Phineas and Ferb will likewise be recorded on the set and against a greenscreen depending on where ever they happen to be at that moment.

I removed it because I don't think it adds to the page at all. I don't think it's a big deal in removing it, but I just put this here just in case someone REALLY feels the need to keep it, and explain how it adds to the main page other than "it's a meme"!

I will be going through the entire P&F page over the next few nights to clean up a lot of the tropes and moving the YMMV from the character page. I will do this as thoroughly and quickly as I can, and I do apologize in advance if you try to edit something and see that the page is checked out by me. I'll try to do it at night so less traffic will be coming through.

Arctimon

10:01:39 PM May 2nd 2011edited by Arctimon

UPDATE: I've finished moving all of the YMMV from the character page to the YMMV tab.

As a side note, if anyone want to add an example to either Ensemble Darkhorse or The Woobie, please, please, please think twice about it. I tried condensing everything that was already on the YMMV page and the character page and had to cut some of it in the process. Those two are too long as it is; I sincerely think we have enough there.

It's been like this for a while, but I'm just getting around to putting it here. All of the Crowning Moment tabs and the new YMMV tab are not showing up when loading the main page. I don't think that they were ptitles when they all got nuked. Do they show up to anyone else, or is it just me?

FossilsDaDaDa

11:48:11 AM Mar 15th 2011

I noticed that too. Can somebody who knows how please fix it?

Arctimon

01:19:11 PM Mar 19th 2011edited by Arctimon

I would if I knew how. All of the Crowning Moments and YMMV links are working; for whatever reason they're just not showing.

Am I the only one who finds it a little strange that the upcoming "Rollercoaster: The Musical!" is the only episode officially labeled a Musical Episode. Even after "Dude, We're Getting the Band Back Together" and "Wizard of Odd". Not that it's not going to be awesome, but still.

We're just saying it's kind of weird. I mean EVERY episode has a song and this is the only one with the official The Musical label. But I found the whole thing on YouTube. I counted nine, maybe ten, songs. That's a new record.

Arctimon

09:10:55 PM Jan 23rd 2011

It's the episode that the characters themselves are calling a musical. It just seems to me that they're properly lampshading it this time.

Can someone explain to me how the upcoming movie should warrant an entirely new trope entry on here? We've had at least two other movies before, and unless this one will be in theaters, I don't see how it's anything special.

WackyMeetsPractical

08:23:54 AM Sep 6th 2010

What other movies? The only other thing I can think of that comes close is the hour long "Summer Belongs To You", but that was more of a special than a movie. This new movie will actually be a full-length movie and will be advertised as a movie the same as all the other Disney Channel Original Movies.

I had the misfortune of seeing the film (having not known who the directors were until after I saw it), and rest assured if the film parodied Phineas and Ferb, it was damn near impossible for me to see it. Either it didn't happen, or the jab was so subtle that it was lost in the sea of bad, obvious jokes.

Could we please stop with the Fan Wank about Ferb/Gretchen? I understand that it's a popular pairing, but immense detail about why they're shipped doesn't seem necessary. As well, the edit war that has just begun is only going to get worse.

OrchidbreezeofFireClan

01:59:57 PM Jun 29th 2010

Yes, please. I'd like to suggest a protocol here: if it's purely objective, it's good, but cut any justification and/or criticism of the ship.

'Many fans ship Ferb/Gretchen' can stay, 'Ferb/Gretchen would probably make a good couple because of such-and-such-reason' would be cut. If a reader can't discern the editor's opinion, it's probably good.

If worst comes to worst, we may cut mentions of non-canon ships altogether.

Turtleducks

04:14:38 PM Jun 29th 2010

That is exactly what I thought. Like, I would do it if it was any other non-canon ship, but no other pairing has been unobjectively described.

Maybe I just don't understand, but is the entry for Tuckerisation trying to Meaningful Name a real person? And do so by calling him gay? Please explain if it's not, otherwise I'm nuking it.

Turtleducks

01:30:31 PM Jun 29th 2010

Well, it's Meaningful Name by way ofTuckerization, as the character is named after writer Bobby Gaylor. The "Gay" in his last name possibly being the part that led to the character's last name of Fabulous, because "fabulous" tends to mean "gay".

The fact that Bobbi is spelled with an i just further accentuates that.

OrchidbreezeofFireClan

01:55:28 PM Jun 29th 2010

Understood. At the time of the comment, however, the entry did pothole Gaylor's name with Meaningful Name. It's since been fixed. Sorry for any confusion.

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