Hi, I've noticed that a couple of movies that have Ukrainian language as
the original audio of the dialogue are listed incorrectly in IMDb. I've
submitted request to those titles a couple of months ago and recently
learned that couple of my submissions were unfortunately declined citing
"Unable to verify.". Please help me with the following submissions:

This
film (Storozhova zastava (2017)) was shot in Ukrainian and ALL credits
at the end of the film were in Ukrainian. Therefore, in order to create
English credits you need to provide correct transliteration of Ukrainian
names into English (which I did). So then why was this correction
rejected twice?

The
main title is wrong (original was in Ukrainian, so transliteration
should also be from Ukrainian, e.g., title should be "Krynyzia dlia
sprahlyh" instead of current "Rodnik dlya zhazhdushchikh" (1987)

This cartoon was originally voiced into English. I clarified that voice actors on imdb are for Ukrainian version, but for some reason this clarfication got rejectedoriginal ID: #180117-013930-769000 (rejected)

Romaninho Nabaidyzhiy, are you talking to yourself?If not, if it's a dialogue, so please think of what you read - there are not so much words in the 2 statements.

For the first one. I'm not discussing the language matters. I only ask you to provide the list of voice actors and characters if those in the base are not correct as you think. Please provide them.

For the second one. The movie is created in two languages intentionally. I wonder how it could be found so important to place this or that language at first or second place. It's a rare example when this does not matter at all. So, if you are so concerned to bother others with this, please calculate the minutes to compare which language lasting more in this concrete movie.

Hi MAthePA, apolgoies I might have misunderstood your original request.

* For the first one => see Ukrainian wiki article, it has a detaield section with all voice actors for both English original and Ukrainain dubbing. http://bit.ly/2Gdic4w . The actors for Ukrainina dubbing are already listed on wiki, I was just asking to approve the submission where I clarified that that is indeed actors for Ukrainian version (and not some other one). E.g., see:

Romaninho Nabaidyzhiy, thanks for caring about the original titles, but unfortunately you are doing this not correct. And editors have already accepted the wrong variants of yours. You should never mention any other sources for rules of transliteration, because IMDb follows their own rules, and such rules are the same as in Google (at least, for Ukrainian transliteration).

Here is how the correct variant may be checked when you don't know the IMDb rules of transliteration:

The titles for above two movies should be spelled in Ukrainian (that is original) this way:"Століття Якова""Криниця для спраглих"those can be checked by editors against the original pictures (posters).

Then you take those original titles and input them into Google translator:

As you see now, the correct variants for the two movies are:Stolittya YakovaKrynytsya dlya sprahlykh

In view of all the above, please submit anew the correct variants for both to improve your own efforts. Thanks in advance.

Hi MAthePA, I didn't realize IMDb uses Google Translate transliteration as the "official" transliteration. I'm happy to modify my submission, but I just honestly surprised that Google Translate transliteration from Ukrainina->English is considered "the norm" aka "gold standard". I don't say that Google Transliteration is wrong, it's jsut not the only way to transliterated Ukrainian -> English (see for example "Довідка:Англо-українська практична транскрипція" on Ukrainain Wikipedia http://bit.ly/2KCvblC)

I wouldn't characterize Google Translate as IMDb's standard language translation tool. However, many users on IMDb Get Satisfaction use this tool. Bing Translator also works well and it is the only large scale translator tools that translates Klingon.

Section 5: Various pending submissions, where I corrected language, etc. ==* https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055635/This film was shot originally shot in Ukrainian in 1961. The original version was thought as lost for many years and was only rediscovered in 2013. This is a well-documented fact:* see news coverage for when the original UKrainian audio was found: * see original Ukrainian version on Yotube #190414-044522-177000 (pending)

Will, could you pleae PM regarding abovementioned submissions (from part 2 of
my post)? I just checked my "re-submissions' (after I addded detailed
description to each re-submission, plus detailed descriptions here, on
this board), I still got rejections on all submissions. It doesn't seem
like IMDb staff read either detailed description for each submission or
the this post I made here.

I'm not certain of where "Part 2" of your previous post begins, if there are still outstanding submissions that have not been approved, can you post those submission reference numbers and if possible, also include any online links/sources to help verify the update you are trying to make regarding the submission?

3)
#190503-225632-455000
=> film language should be changed from Ukranian to Russian. Watch news episode about this movie, which also includes film trailer (where you can here all dialogues in Russian). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb46HjTRChw

4) #190503-223438-341000 => this is a silent movie (as correctly indicated in "Sound mix" section)
with no dialogue or sounds in it. It did have Russian intertitles, like
all movies shot in 1920-s at Odesa Film Studio division of VUFKU. See
details here https://vufku.org/lost/ochi-iaki-bachyly/

5) #190503-203327-028000 => This
is a silent movie (as correctly indicated in "Sound mix" section) with
no dialogue or sounds in it. It did have Russian intertitles, like all
movies shot in 1920-s at Yalta Film Studio division of VUFKU. See
details here https://vufku.org/found/test1/

7)
#190505-193718-849000
=> tv-series language should be changed from Russian to Ukranian. This
is a 7 episode mini-series with dialogues all in Ukranian. See 1st
episode on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGdfE1W6oK0

12) #190505-205658-618000 Remove Ukranian as 2nd langauge -> film is fully shot in Russian with no Ukranian dialogue. Watch lip movement, that clearly shows dialgoue is originally spoken in Russian, in this clip from the movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi3jqgoFfS0

14) #190505-211625-879000 Majority of dialogues are in Russian (hence #1 language), there are also a couple of sentences spoken in Ukrainian (hence # 2 langugae with attribute "a few sentences"). See the film here https://sweet.tv/uk/movie/16627-donbas

Hi MAthePA, for #8, I think we already discussed this in the other thread -> as you correctly indicated both Ukrainian (original audio) and Russian (dubbed version) are available here https://megogo.net/ua/view/17930-shum-vitru.html . I watched segments of the film, and lip movement correspond to Ukrainian.

ps. For 11-12 -> reviewed your original response, what does "A few words imprinted" mean. Have never heard that terminology before

Hi piznajko, for #8 we already discussed it for sure, and I correctly indicated that Russian is original, but Ukrainian is dubbed version. I don't understand why and what for you need to reverse my statements here.

Hi MAthePA. If I ask director himself, and he confirms Ukrainian was the original Audio for "Shum vitru" (2002) - would you change your mind? Movie director, Serhiy Masloboyshchykov, has an email address listed on his official website (http://maslobo.info/)- masloboyshchykov@yahoo.co.uk . I'll email him now and ask and will copy-paste his repsponse here.

Nope. The correct way is to see him claiming his personal page on IMDb and then posting with the same name here on GS. Then his words would be interesting re-read after I prove the opposite for this and only for this movie. I'm not going to do the same for the movie produced by Zelensky that is also dubbed into Ukrainian.

MAthePA
I think nobody is trying to deny that Zelenskiy's latest movie, Ya, ty,
vin, vona (2018) was shot in Russian (original audio) and dubbed into
Ukrainian in post-production. Because when you watch Zelenskiy's movie -
it's crystal clear that lips of all characters move in Russian.

ps. Also, my reply to Michelle just disappared :( Do you know what's going on?pps. Never mind - it was jsut "hidden"!