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I don't know what's true and what isnt... but I do believe that say if he really died then even than considering the current situation in middle east and the high probability of disagreement over sucessor, they will most likely keep the news a secret, and that's what the hadith says anyways...

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Considering the recent events in Egypt it wouldnt surprise me if they are trying to hide his death in order to keep stability in the country... however the truth will always unveil itself.. Opressing regimes are bound to fail and collaps.. Allah (SWT) has made numerus examples in the quran mentioning this..

If indeed the Saudi king is dead this is what will most likely happen very soon!

Prince Bandahar will become the king for A SHORT TIME, the Obama will step up to the plate and take his place as the mahdi!

Kings of Saudi Arabia (1932-Present)

House of Saud

Name Date of birth King From King Until Date of death

1. FALLEN Abdul Aziz (Ibn Saud)

15 January 1876 22 September 1932 9 November 1953

2. FALLEN Saud

12 January 1902 9 November 1953 2 November 1964

(deposed) 23 February 1969

3. FALLEN Faisal

1904 2 November 1964 25 March 1975

(assassinated)

4. FALLEN Khalid

1912 25 March 1975 13 June 1982

5. FALLEN Fahd

16 March 1921 13 June 1982 1 August 2005

6. is! FALLEN?

The one who is! Abdullah

1 August 1924 1 August 2005 Present

7. Prince Bandahar to be for a short time? I wonder what will happen to him?

8. Barrack Hussein Obama, The BEAST!

First they take over the USA and now the whole earth!

And now comes the NWO and the new monetary system and islam all under the control of BHO!

We all best get prepared to meet Jesus Christ face to face! Christ is coming deal with sin NOW!

REVELATION 17

7 But the angel said to me, “Why did you marvel? I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her, which has the seven heads and the ten horns. 8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition. And those who dwell on the earth will marvel, whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world, when they see the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.[c]

9 “Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. 10 There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time. 11 The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition.

12 “The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast. 13 These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the beast. 14 These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him are called, chosen, and faithful.”

15 Then he said to me, “The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues. 16 And the ten horns which you saw on[d] the beast, these will hate the harlot, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17 For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled. 18 And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.”

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The already-ailing Saudi Arabian King's health condition has reportedly deteriorated seriously due to his efforts to prevent the ouster of former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak.

Abdullah Ibn Abdulaziz Al Saud tried to rally the United States support for Mubarak's continued stay in power despite a popular Revolution in Egypt, urging the removal of the 30-year-long Egyptian leader's regime.

"These efforts certainly didn't help his health and probably harmed recovery," the US daily World Tribune citing an intelligence source as saying on Friday.

"He has suffered a major medical setback," the source said. The 86-year-old monarch, who is reportedly a close friend of Mubarak's, has been recovering from two operations in the US in late 2010.

Mubarak handed power over to the Supreme Council of the Egyptian Armed Forces on Friday, giving in to 18 straight days of pro-democracy demonstrations.

The protests were fiercely confronted by Egyptian security forces. More than 300 people have lost their lives since the popular movements began on January 25, reports say.

Abdullah called Mubarak late last month to ensure him of his support, describing the popular movements as "tampering with Egypt's security and stability in the name of freedom of expression,” AFP reported.

The king branded the protesters as "intruders" and said, “Saudi Arabia stands with all its power with the government and people of Egypt."

The Friday victory was followed by countrywide jubilation in Egypt and Yemen as well as international congratulatory messages, namely from Iran and the Lebanese resistance movement of Hezbollah.

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Although what I'm about to share with you is NOT a "definite sign", but since so many people have asked about it, and since it seems to be coming true in the real world, I will outline what narrations we have regarding King Abdullah and his death and the appearance of Imam Mahdi (pbuhaf).

Hijaz (Saudi Arabia) will be ruled by a man whose name is the name of an animal, when you see him from a distance, you would think he has a lazy eye, and if you get close to him, you do not see anything (wrong) in his eyes. He will be succeeded by a brother of his, named Abdullah. Woe to our Shia (followers) from him! Woe to our Shia (followers) from him! Woe to our Shia (followers) from him! - he repeated it three times - Give me the good news of his death, and I shall give you the good news of the appearance of the hujjah (Imam Mahdi).

Reference: Two Hundred and Fifty Signs, sign number 122

Hijaz (Saudi Arabia) will be ruled by a man whose name is the name of an animal

The king with the name of animal - is King Fahad (Cheetah/Leopard).

when you see him from a distance, you would think he has a lazy eye, and if you get close to him, you do not see anything (wrong) in his eyes.

Indeed:

He will be succeeded by a brother of his, named Abdullah.

After his death - his brother Abdullah became king (he is the current king).

Give me the good news of his death, and I shall give you the good news of the appearance of the hujjah (Imam Mahdi).

His death is GOOD NEWS!

King Abdullah's death = Appearance of Imam Mahdi (in a very short amount of time).

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This is a Sunni narration. The author of the book copied it from Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal - but now it cannot be found in Musnad Ahmad.

Some have argued that since the author of the 250 Signs book is a very reliable scholar, then the hadith must have been dropped from the new prints of Musnad Ahmad due to influence from the Saudis.

Others say the hadith does not exist - so it's false.

This can be checked if someone has a very very old copy of Musnad Ahmad - perhaps an ancient copy in a library.

Some have argued that since it was written before these kings existed, then the hadith MUST be authentic because it has spoken of future events which seem to have come true.

Whoever guarantees for me the death of Abdullah, I will guarantee for him the Qa'im (Imam Mahdi).

When Abdullah dies, then people will not gather/agree on anyone after him, and this matter will not except for your companion (Imam Mahdi) inshallah, and the kingdom of years will be over, and it will become the kingdom of months and days.

So I asked: Will that be prolonged? He said: No.

Biharul Anwar, Volume 52, page 21

Whoever guarantees for me the death of Abdullah, I will guarantee for him the Qa'im (Imam Mahdi).

King Abdullah's death = Appearance of Imam Mahdi - guaranteed!

When Abdullah dies, then people will not gather/agree on anyone after him

Self explanatory. The people will not agree on who is to be king - meaning there will be trouble.

and this matter will not except for your companion (Imam Mahdi) inshallah

After Abdullah, the kingdom/ruler ship will be for Imam Mahdi (pbuhaf) inshallah.

and the kingdom of years will be over, and it will become the kingdom of months and days.

After Abdullah's death, and before Imam Mahdi finally takes control, there will be a period of chaos in which rulers come and go - ruling only months or weeks or days!

So I asked: Will that be prolonged? He said: No.

The period of chaos will be short, and Imam Mahdi's appearance will be very soon after the death of Abdullah!

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This is a Shia narration. The scholars who say that Hadith 1 does not exist, would also say that we do not know who this Abdullah is that Imam Sadiq is referring to. It could be any king/ruler of any country called Abdullah. For example, it could be the Jordanian King Abdullah, or a ruler in the future.

Those who say Hadith 1 is correct, say this is the same Abdullah as Hadith 1.

When the Sufyani rises against Al-Abqa', and Al-Mansour, and Al-Kindy, and the Turks, and the Romans, he will leave and go to Iraq, then the horn of (or the century of) healing will come out, and at that point will be the death of Abdullah.

Al-Mo'jam Al-Mawthou'i Le Ahadith Imam Mahdi by Al-Kourani p. 553

The wording and names used in this hadith are mysterious.

If the Abdullah in this hadith is the SAME Abdullah as Hadith 1 and/or Hadith 2, then a large portion of the battles of the Sufyani and developments prior to Imam Mahdi's appearance will be DURING the life of Abdullah.

His death will be after the Sufyani enters Iraq.

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The scholars who say that Hadith 1 does not exist, would also say that we do not know who this Abdullah is that Imam Baqir is referring to. It could be ANYONE called Abdullah.

While the people are staying in Arafat (for Hajj), a rider on a light and fast camel comes to them, and gives them news of the death of the Khalifah (king). At his death is the faraj (relief) of the family of Mohammad and the faraj (relief) of all the people.

Biharul Anwar volume 52, page 240

It appears that this "Khalifah" is the same king Abdullah. IF this is true, then it appears that his death will be on the day of Arafat or very shortly before it.

Apparently, "light and fast camel" is a reference for something like a motorbike.

At the death of this khalifah is the relief of the Ahlulbayt of Mohammad and all the people - which is a clear reference to the rise of Imam Mahdi (pbuhaf).

There is another hadith which says they will kill the man riding the "light and fast camel" when he gives the news. Obviously the Saudi authorities will not be pleased that he is giving this GOOD news, and will kill him.

The reason for his death is that he will have intercourse with one of his (male) servants, so he will rise and kill him, and his death will be concealed for 40 days. When the riders go to seek the servant, the first of those who left will not return untill their kingdom is over.

Kamalul Deen P.655

This hadith explains the REASON for his death - if it's the same Abdullah.

He - like the people of Lut - is gay. Like his grandson (who was convicted in London for raping and murdering his male servant) - will abuse his servant, but this time, instead of the master killing the servant, the servant kills his master.

The death of the king will be concealed for 40 days.

It appears that the servant who kills Abdullah flees and runs away from the country. Some of the Saudis will go after him trying to find him and arrest/kill him. By the time the first of them comes back - the kingdom will be in turmoil.

CONCLUSION

As I mentioned earlier, this is NOT a definite sign. The first hadith cannot be found in it's reference. There is a difference of oppinion on the other ahadith, and whether or not they are the same king Abdullah of Saudi Arabia or someone else. IF all these ahadith are true, then:

- After king Fahad, king Abdullah will succeed

- Woe to the Muslims from him

- During his time, the Sufyani will wage wars and enter Iraq

- Abdullah has gay intercourse with his servant

- The servant kills him and flees the country

- The Saudis will run after him trying to catch him

- His death will be concealed for 40 days

- A man will give the news on the day of Arafat (40 days after his death?) and will be killed

- After the death of Abdullah, the kingdom will be in turmoil

- None will survive more than months or days on the throne - until it is taken by Imam Mahdi

- The relief - the appearance of Imam Mahdi - is very soon after the death of Abdullah

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Saudi Arabia's ailing monarch has reportedly experienced a major setback in his recovery process, showing signs of mental deterioration.

Citing Western intelligence sources, the US daily World Tribune said on Friday that the 86-year-old Abdullah Ibn Abdulaziz Al Saud was suffering from back and heart ailments as well as signs of dementia.

The king has been recovering from two operations in the United States in late 2010.

The news came after last Thursday's rumors about his death, which was only followed by an increase in the price of oil.

Saudi opposition sources announced that Abdullah has died on February 9 at his home in Morocco. Saudi Foreign Minister Saud Al Faisal, however, said on the following day that the monarch was in 'excellent shape.'

The intelligence sources said Abdullah's medical condition had deteriorated sharply over the last few days. "He has suffered a major medical setback," said one intelligence source, stressing that he was not in danger of imminent death.

King Abdullah tried to rally US support for former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak's continued stay in power despite a popular Revolution in Egypt, urging the removal of the 30-year-long Egyptian leader's regime.

There are unconfirmed reports that he began fitting while talking on the phone with US President Barack Obama regarding the fate of Mubarak, who is a close friend of King Abdullah.

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Islam Time’s received this information from a reliable anonymous source that has asked not to be named and has reported that the royal family is working hard to keep this information secret due to the sensitive political circumstances amongst the royal family

We have received information that King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia is dead. He passed away yesterday apparently after a heated discussion with Obama related to Egypt. Abdullah was highly agitated and suffered a stroke. Saudi Arabian officials are of course rejecting the claim but have changed his status to "critical", apparently in an attempt to stage the political fallout.

Islam Times was the first to report this news and claims to have inside information from the Saudi royal family. Our own sources suggest the same. Other independent sources are also echoing these views. There are now also reports that an unusual amount of high level personages are visiting Abdullah's hotel in Morocco. These latter reports are from Jadidnet.com.

It appears that the impact of Egypt and Tunisia is snowballing in many ways yet unforeseen. Thus goes another puppet of America. May he not rest in peace.

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Hmmmm.......there's definitely some story here. Maybe severe illness or actual death. I remain skeptical - given the obscurity of the sources - but i'll be following this pretty closely. Thanks for the links.

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It is impossible to have a solar eclipse in the middle of the month or a lunar eclipse at the end of the month together, thus you can't calculate when it may happen. Hence it being a miracle. Also, I believe that the call from the sky will take place in the same month, same year.

As for the King's ill health, I wish not to will anyone bad health and I wish that he lives a good life in imaan, remember we must never will something bad to happen on anyone. So is health condition is irrelevant, that and the fact that hadiths hint that a particular Abdullah is likely to be assassinated....

(salam)

Are you sure about this? Because it has already happened according to wikipedia and a random Ramadhan calendar from google:

Start = Nov 28, 2000

Lunar = N/A - none

Solar = Dec 25, 2000 (partial)

Eid = Dec 27/28, 2000

Start = Nov 17, 2001

Lunar = N/A - none

Solar = Dec 14, 2001 (annular)

Eid = Dec 17, 2001

Start = Nov 6, 2002

Lunar = Nov 20, 2002 (penumbral)

Solar = Dec 4, 2002 (total)

Eid = Dec 6, 2002

Start = Oct 27, 2003

Lunar = Nov 9, 2003 (total)

Solar = Nov 23, 2003 (total)

Eid = Nov 25/26, 2003

Start = Oct 16, 2004

Solar = Oct 14, 2004 (partial)

Lunar = Oct 28, 2004 (total)

Eid = Nov 14, 2004

Start = Oct 5, 2005

Solar = N/A - Oct 3, 2005 (annular)

Lunar = Oct 17, 2005 (partial)

Eid = Nov 3/4, 2005

Start = Sept 23/4, 2006

Lunar = N/A - Sept 6, 2006 (partial)

Solar = N/A - Sept 22, 2006 (annular)

Eid = Oct 22, 2006

ps. I wonder what a salafi would be thinking reading this thread, lol...

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Islam Times reported last week that King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia passed away in Morocco. This report incurred various responses. This report was widely spread throughout the media of the region and the international world. Some Saudi Arabian officials also reacted to it.

The first claim that this report was false was published by Reuters who narrated from a counselor of the Saudi family. This claim was weak and only confirmed the Islam Times report. The report of his death is so important that official members of the Saudi Arabian government would falsify it, not a family counselor.

It is interesting that the name of this counselor was also not published. This also hurts the authenticity of the claim. Then a few hours later, another claim which stated that this report was false was issued by the Saudi Arabian foreign minister. He reported that the King was in great health.

But, a few hours before this claim, Saud al-Faisal, cancelled his trip to Algeria and instead, without prior notice, entered Morocco. This shady trip also confirms the Islam Times report. Then, Reuters announced that the false claims of King Abdullah’s death have made the price of oil rise in the region.

In conclusion, Islam Times is certain of its report; the King is dead! But, the Saudi Arabian officials have decided, due to the conditions of the region and their own country, to delay the announcement of his death. Therefore, they are trying to issue reports about him being alive and in good health.

If they insist that his health is good they can present evidence of this. He can deliver a short speech or a video of him can be released. But, Islam Times still stands firm and supports its report. The King is dead!

RIYADH Feb 18 (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah bin Abdul-Aziz will return home within days after undergoing medical treatment abroad for three months, a government official said on Friday as unrest hit Gulf Arab neighbour Bahrain.

Abdullah, who is around 87, left the top OPEC oil exporter on Nov. 22 to undergo surgery in New York after a blood clot complicated a slipped disc. He has been recuperating in Morocco for the past four weeks.

"We know he is coming some time next week," said a spokesman for the foreign ministry. In the capital Riyadh, workers were putting up flags and posters welcoming the king back home.

Analysts say Abdullah might announce some reforms to address dissent in the Gulf Arab state. Diplomats do not expect unrest like that in Egypt or Tunisia but the kingdom faces challenges such as high youth unemployment and a massive housing shortage.

The U.S. ally fears that unrest in Bahrain, where majority Shi'ites have been protesting against the Sunni-led government, might spread to its own Shi'ite community, a minority concentrated in the eastern oil-producing area.

Political stability in Saudi Arabia is of global concern because the kingdom controls more than a fifth of the world's oil reserves, and is a vital U.S. ally as well as a major holder of dollar assets and home to the biggest Arab bourse.

The king's medical troubles have aroused concern over whether a reformist like himself or a conservative will succeed him. Continued...

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you guys should fear Allah and stop wishing anyone's death.if he is dead,then so be it.if he is not,then a day will come when everyone has to go.and whatever prophecies are there,they will be fulfilled sooner or later.but please,refrain from wishing bad for anyone.lets just discuss the news and events happening without wishing anyone ill.

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you guys should fear Allah and stop wishing anyone's death.if he is dead,then so be it.if he is not,then a day will come when everyone has to go.and whatever prophecies are there,they will be fulfilled sooner or later.but please,refrain from wishing bad for anyone.lets just discuss the news and events happening without wishing anyone ill.

Don't enforce your views on anyone. Even the Prophets used to ask for the curse of Allah to fall upon their enemies and the ones who fought them.

This munafiq is a present day Muawiya. I sure will wish it upon him.

Please don't imply we don't fear Allah swt. There is no one but Him, He is the ONLY one we fear.

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Don't enforce your views on anyone. Even the Prophets used to ask for the curse of Allah to fall upon their enemies and the ones who fought them.

This munafiq is a present day Muawiya. I sure will wish it upon him.

Please don't imply we don't fear Allah swt. There is no one but Him, He is the ONLY one we fear.

first i am not "enforcing" my views on anyone.it is a sincere piece of advice.i do no support the saudi royals and i detest them and may Allah's curse be upon them.yet still i wish death for no one because it will come to me as well and to you too.

i did not imply that you dont fear Allah.

and dont ever try to attack me or verbally assault me.i know you should have understood well what i meant.but i just feel your recent anymosity towards me is because i severely criticized the iranian approach in the case of Imam Musa al-Sadr in the Imam Sadr thread.that ofcourse did not please you and when i openly said (the truth) that either Sayyed Khamanei or Ayatollah Khomeini are not greater than Imam Sadr,and if either of those would have being kidnapped Iran would have declared war,must have really upset you.

let me make it clear to you that i worship Allah and believe in islam and love the 14 infallibles.i dont worship any sayyed or ayatollah.i respect those who deserve respect and i speak the truth when i have to even if it be Iran,a country i respect and love so much,both its people and leadership.

if that does not go down well with you and you are not pleased by my approach,there is a lebanese saying for you:"go tile the sea"!!!!

Looks like "later" is not a problem for you but it is for a lot of ppl...

that is not within our power.it is in Allah's hand.the reappearance of the Imam (ajtfs) or death is in Allah's hand.when it comes it will not be delayed or hasten by a second.i wish it (the faraj) is today but that is not in my hands.

if you have any way than sitting at home behind your useless keyboard wishing for people's death,then tell us.or better still you can offer your service and get down to libya to free Imam Sadr.

it is really amazing how we shia pray day and night for faraj of Imam Mehdi (as) with our empty mouths,but here in our physical world we have an imam and a leader and a sayyed who has been kidnapped for 33 years that we cannot free.if it was Imam Mehdi (as) who was kidnapped or imprisoned like his forefathers were,is that how we will fold our hands and sit back???shame indeed!i would stop short of calling us hypocrites.

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first i am not "enforcing" my views on anyone.it is a sincere piece of advice.i do no support the saudi royals and i detest them and may Allah's curse be upon them.yet still i wish death for no one because it will come to me as well and to you too.

i did not imply that you dont fear Allah.

and dont ever try to attack me or verbally assault me.i know you should have understood well what i meant.but i just feel your recent anymosity towards me is because i severely criticized the iranian approach in the case of Imam Musa al-Sadr in the Imam Sadr thread.that ofcourse did not please you and when i openly said (the truth) that either Sayyed Khamanei or Ayatollah Khomeini are not greater than Imam Sadr,and if either of those would have being kidnapped Iran would have declared war,must have really upset you.

let me make it clear to you that i worship Allah and believe in islam and love the 14 infallibles.i dont worship any sayyed or ayatollah.i respect those who deserve respect and i speak the truth when i have to even if it be Iran,a country i respect and love so much,both its people and leadership.

if that does not go down well with you and you are not pleased by my approach,there is a lebanese saying for you:"go tile the sea"!!!!

Hey, that's not nice man. I honestly don't mind what your opinion is of Iranian approach towards the matter, because everyone else knows the reality of it instead, since it's already been properly addressed numerous times, but for some reason you still insist otherwise. Just because I responded to what you said doesn't mean I have animosity towards you personally. You're free to believe whatever you like.