Sunday, August 14, 2016

I was drawn to look into this for myself after Snopes tried to dismiss a meme that was going around comparing Hiroshima to Detroit on the basis of
some rather spurious grounds, so I thought I'd have a look at the evidence myself.

Now, some have argued that because Detroit's core downtown is still intact, this proves that the decay of the city surrounding it is irrelevant. But a city is more than its downtown, as the comparative population figures demonstrate the same contrast that the pictures do.

Detroit population
1950: 1.8 million
2016: 680,000Hiroshima population
1945: 260,000
2015: 1.2 million

Note that this is the most favorable possible comparison for Detroit, as the 1945 Hiroshima population is post-bombing and is based upon the smallest reported casualty count. Moreover, Detroit filed for bankruptcy in 2013, which was the largest municipal bankruptcy filing in US history.

The claim that the pictures are misleading is a dishonest and knowingly deceitful response. The fact that the downtown still exists merely indicates the destructive process is not yet entirely complete, as that downtown is now "a tiny urban island" in a grass-covered, depopulated sea.

In 1950, Detroit was America's fifth largest city and one of the most prosperous on the back of its booming motor industry. It prompted the construction of skyscrapers on the banks of the river and the development of vast suburban housing projects in the surrounding areas.

But almost 55 years on, a dwindling motor industry and a dramatic fall in blue collar jobs has caused people to leave the Michigan city, abandoning their homes and businesses. These aerial photos reveal the tiny urban island that is left - a clutter of high-rises surrounded by empty housing plots now covered in grass. There are vast areas of open spaces dotted with crumbling industrial buildings and barely-standing Victorian homes until you reach the upmarket suburbs.

The fact that these facts may be uncomfortable or make you feel bad is irrelevant. The evidence is very clear that a black population in excess of an as-yet-undetermined percentage of the overall population renders the continuation of Western civilization impossible. This has been observed everywhere from Capetown to Detroit, and the comparison with Hiroshima only underlines the cultural, economic, and physical devastation that an excessively black population is likely to wreak on a society.

The cuckservative response is that it is Democrat rule, or socialist governing principles, not blacks, who are responsible. This omits two important facts. One, blacks vote for Democrats more solidly than any other group. Two, for most of the post-war years for which I've been able to find the relevant data, Hiroshima has been governed by members of the Japan Social Democratic Party, "a political party that advocates the establishment of a socialist Japan."

What should be done about it? I don't know. But since my people were forcibly put on reservations, I'm not terribly inclined to pay much attention to any appeals to equality or the rhetorical hysterics of dyscivilizationists protesting that nothing can, or should, be done to avert the collapse of civilization throughout the West.

51 Comments:

The evidence is very clear that a black population in excess of an as-yet-undetermined percentage of the overall population...

Gonna go with 0%.

BTW note of course that this only examines from a material perspective. Also ask yourself... which city would you feel safer in, Hiroshima or Detroit? Which city has people you would rather live with as neighbors, Hiroshima or Detroit?

I'm not disputing the meme, but that Detroit 2015 picture is not a good representation. One can find similar swatches in any major city. It's obviously an industrial section with warehouses and an electrical substation.

Where are the pictures showing street after street of abandoned and decaying commercial and residential areas? I'll have to see what I can dig up.

I'm not disputing the meme, but that Detroit 2015 picture is not a good representation. One can find similar swatches in any major city. It's obviously an industrial section with warehouses and an electrical substation.

Actually, it is. That's ALL you find outside of the downtown.

Where are the pictures showing street after street of abandoned and decaying commercial and residential areas? I'll have to see what I can dig up.

Exceptional individuals aside, a fact that has been observed pretty much all over the world and all through history, with almost unmatched consistency, is that as a group, be it swiftly or over time, Blacks will destroy civilization like clockwork.
The blunt reality is, a choice must be made between Blacks or civilization; We cannot have both.

I'm going to suggest an alternate interpretation. Simply that, in olden times (i.e. pre-1960s), black families were intact, they developed professionals (other than preachers). Black families were strong and productive,

But with the rise of welfare, and the disappearance of fathers in black families as a result, breeding selected increasingly for aggressive males, and has now gone 3-4 generations into that selection.

And, to no surprise, we now have a far larger number of aggressive black males, in respect to the population as a whole. Because selective breeding WORKS.

I first noticed in the 1980s that any business comprised of a large proportion of afro/ams seemed to fail.I finally came to the conclusion that this is due to the manner in which blacks interact with one another in the context of their culture. I believe that it is very difficult for a black person to hold another black person to the benchmark standard of the alien European culture. I have read that so many positions in the Washington D.C.subway system are now held by afro/ams that it violates racial discrimination standards, and at the same time, the subway maintenance is so poor, that there is talk of shutting the whole system down for a month.

There are many mill, mine, steel towns where the same level of abandonement without a black within 100 miles.

The real problem imho is that the current population doesnt have the skills to build something on the wreckage of detroit... thats the real issue .... for you readers here who work in a stem field, how many black engineers do you know .? Why is this. ? Who is going to rebuild detroit ?. If every 50 something white engineeer said .. i done, no more work, the planet woild come to a halt in 60 days, and you will have detroit all over the world...

His final verdict is he's glad his ancestors got on that slave ship
quite right

New Guinea would have prospered if it had have remained under Australian governance. Most of Africa would have been better off had they remained colonial dominions.

Robert Mugabe raped Rhodesia. Repeat the story all over
Africa.

But what to do about now. Have a quick think about Fiji. A very British experience. Yes it's third world with a tourist industry but it isn't Mogadishu.

Fiji was converted by Methodist/ Presbyterian/ Lutheran missionaries. They form queues and go to church, even now.

The difference is God. The actual One. When victimhood entered the Detroit hive mind victimhood is what they got. Victimhood begets perpetual victims. That economy is the mindset. Trailer parks can be black or white. Gospel economics isn't like others.

Way lower than 10% Josh. Would you live in a 10% black neighborhood? At 1-2% they are the token blacks and no one cares. When 1/10 houses have cars parked in the yard, trash everywhere, cars blaring bass, whites move.

Tombstone, AZ. Very few blacks. Peak was 14,000 residents, mostly white men. Now 1380 population. Obviously white men are a problem.

Commerce/Nauvoo, IL. in 1844 had 12,000 white Mormon inhabitants. It was the second largest city in IL behind Chicago. Most were English, German, and Scandinavian. Today population is 1108. Obviously it was caused by their white race or their religion.

The fact that the US government incentivized building of cars and car parts overseas and in other states, along with improvements in bulk transportation may be a much greater factors than race. Population drops when the reason for the boom ends because of international politics, rising water in silver mines (Tombstone), or a religious exodus due to persecution (Commerce/Nauvoo).

Populations also leave under threat of outside instigated war, outside disruption of government, and rapacious greed for abundant petroleum, diamonds, silver, and gold. Am I talking about the middle east? Yes. Also Central and South America in the 1500's and today. Also the gold and diamond fields of Africa 200 years ago and today.

There are tons of cities with similar racial demographics to detroit. memphis TN for example has historically had a much greater black population than Detroit. Atlanta has been a majority black city since 1970. And in 1990 it almost 70% black. Back in 1970 detroit was still majority white.

Now the spike was more sudden for detroit... but in looking at what's happened to Detroit... it appears to me that there was a large influx of blacks. Again... Detroit's population peak was 1950 at over 1.8 million. In 1950 Detroit was only 16% black... and that is the beginning of the population decline. By 1960 detroit had lost 10% of its population but blacks were still only 28% of the population. It lost another 10% between 1960 and 1970... but in 1970 blacks were still only 44% of the population. Between 1970 to 1980... Detroit lost 20% of its population.. and the black population went from 44% to 63%.

This isn't a to many black people problem. The black population in detoit actually doesn't appear to have grown that much.

All the white people just left.

And they didn't leave because of the black people. They left because the jobs all left.

Between 1950 and 1980 Detroit lost almost 40% of its population. And for most of that time it was majority white.

There are many mill, mine, steel towns where the same level of abandonement without a black within 100 miles."

This. I have personally see the towns with the old brick buildings that are abandoned without a black to be found. The problem is one of competition. Blacks in general can't compete for jobs with whites or Hispanics. It is not surprising that they wind up dealing in vice crimes.

I agree that in general blacks do not escape culpability for the situation devolving faster than it would in their absence; however, if they had the choice of working for $15/hour in a factory or dealing drugs I think they would choose the factory. The problem is that that free trade combined with inflation has destroyed their ability to compete in the market place.

Thanks, Vox. I'm actually somewhat impressed that the city is making progress demolishing and returning areas to "nature".

Detroit is a great case study. So many factors contributed to the decay it's difficult to attribute it directly to the black population and politicians, although that is certainly a huge factor.

Like so many cities as the population diminishes they went into a financial and taxation death spiral. It was accelerated in Detroit due to the almost overnight loss of their industrial base. However we're told many other US cities have looming financial crisis' with underfunded pensions, over-promised services and aging infrastructures. At some point these cities won't be able to keep kicking the can.

The evidence is very clear that a black population in excess of an as-yet-undetermined percentage of the overall population renders the continuation of Western civilization impossible.

There obviously is a breaking point, but I believe dispersal plays a large role, too. This is to say that if a black population is, say, thirty percent but widely spread and not congregated into a few areas, it is less problematic than a thirty percent black population congregated in several areas.

What should be done about it?

You have previously suggested high-crime inner city precincts be treated as no-go zones for police. To some degree that already is happening naturally. Once blacks control city politics, the elected officials likely will face hostile constituents as police boycott neighborhoods but it will be hard to retain non-sociopaths as cops if they are forced to go into death traps. The no-go zone treatment can be expanded to county and state police.

1. the pics understate things. Out my window (I was in a suburban high rise) you'd see plumes of smoke daily. Driving through, you'd see the wrecks, not empty lots.

2. The responsible blacks moved to the suburbs, mostly Southfield. There was some shock as Southfield enforced codes.

3. It wasn't just being black, but the heavy single mother r-selection starting in the 1970's, and the loss of blue collar factory jobs so welfare was their best alternative. Compare Appalachia and other white rural towns where there are no jobs. In 1960, the k-selection was still there and families were stable, but the moral pressure with the blue collar jobs kept things that way.

"Where are the pictures showing street after street of abandoned and decaying commercial and residential areas?"

Just go to Google Maps, choose the satellite view of Detroit, then swoop down and start your tour. It's not hard to spot the derelict sections from the sky. Then you can go to the "street view" option to take a virtual drive through those sections.

There are tons of cities with similar racial demographics to detroit. memphis TN for example has historically had a much greater black population than Detroit. Atlanta has been a majority black city since 1970. And in 1990 it almost 70% black. Back in 1970 detroit was still majority white.

How very strange that the same process is currently at work in Cape Town. Must be their auto industry.

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