Does this mean Quick Capture or Quick Deploy (image upload or image download)? Sending an image the wrong way could destroy hard work, so I have avoided an option that maybe can be useful. “Deploy on demand” would be clearer for me then “Quick image”.

Also when you choose the menu option: Full inventory (and something) at the end of many questions is asked “do you want to image now?” Again image upload (capture), or image download (deploy)? Please stay true to Fog terminology to not confuse stupid users like me.

I realize this posting is a bad example of things. But it must be noted. All I personally care about with fog is that the main elements operate.

E.g. Capturing/Deploying images is working, (not the text behind it), the server is sending and working properly with the FOG Client (both legacy and new), and the like. Text that has NO impact on these elements don’t matter to me. What was coded there before I even started developing for this project is likely what was/is used.

Now that FOG is on GIT, it doesn’t have to me ONLY me making changes. If I disagree with changing the text, it’s not likely anything I’m going to disregard if a pull request is made for it. This is what really got me. I don’t care what the text is, and why – especially if there’s real issues to take care – do I have to be the one to make these changes?

Yes, I agree text should be common. The only reason Deploy/Download Capture/Upload were used interchangeably around the place is because a while back somebody said Upload and Download made no sense, that it would be clearer to use Deploy/Capture. So I made the change(s) after a very similar discussion here.

So all of my posts regarding this (while admittedly a bit on the “heated” side) are not about how simple (or not) it is to change the text so a single user (Yes I know it can help many more) can understand it, but rather about something called “precedent”.

Because I made this change the first time around, it set the precedent that I would make the change ANY time somebody makes a suggestion. I agree the descriptions should’ve been updated and for that I’m sorry, but those changes would not have had to have been made if we left the original labels as Upload/Download. Making the change to the Quick Image and init’s would’ve likely been more understandable under that light.

That all said, I’ve made ALL of the requested changes. Registration will now ask:Would you like to deploy image to this computer now?
Rather than:Would you like to image this computer now?

I have to disagree with this. When you use “image” as a verb, it implies that you are downloading the image to the computer.

In the past I have tried and/or worked with (but i prefer Fog over them):

Symantec Ghost Solution Suite

Acronis Snap Deploy

Clonezilla

Trinity Rescue Kit

CloneDeploy

WDS: Windows Deployment Services

In those systems “making an image” or imaging means copying all the data from a (client) hard disk to a file (on a server or somewhere). Bringing the data back to a client system is called deploy, send, push, download or restore. I do not care how it is called in Fog, just keep it the same in the console, the boot menu and the wiki. Capture/Deploy works fine for me.

@Tom-Elliott Don’t get mad, I was making this remark to help future newcomers, not to troll you. I know how it works now, just trying to help in making it better, not only for the hardcore/oldschool users but for newcomers also.

Note that English is not my native language, I am not trying to be a grammar professor here. In the wiki the word image is mostly used as a thing (an image), not a process (to image).

General Tasks
The general/common Tasks in FOG include unicast image upload, and unicast image send, as well as a multicast image send. In FOG, sending an image to the server is considered an image upload, and deploying an image to the client is called a send. Both of these tasks can be started directly from the search, list all hosts, and list all groups pages.

In the wiki the terms upload and send are used and explained, but in the web console (GUI) it’s called capture and deploy in the menu and tooltip. So the wiki and GUI and boot menu are not in sync.

From a usability perspective I would suggest that you choose 2 words (like capture and deploy) and then use the same terms in the wiki, the UI and the client boot menu. One line of text describing if it goes from client to server or from server to client, would not hurt. When you are standing before a client, that just PXE booted, the wiki is not at hand.

To clarify in the english language would require more along the lines of:

Place existing file from FOG Server after another master system had its data copied to the server by means of placing the bits copied from the originating file onto the this system.

Like I said, I understand the confusion, but I’m not changing it. This value is already changeable. As for the init’s, making an entire build of a file simply for changing around a few words (not even spelled incorrectly) is moot to me. It can be done yes, but now that we all know what it means, we can inform others as they ask. There shouldn’t be the rant about something that literally has no impact on how a system works at all.

If you take “Image this host now” as to upload and image and ruin your “master” system, when this is already clearly documented not only in our own wiki, but other tutorials on how to properly create a master image, I’m sorry. I didn’t know we had to make the entire system self documenting, which means the point of a manual is what?

@Junkhacker That’s fair, but perhaps it would be useful for the long run to have consistent terminology accross all of FOG, that is to say if “Quick image” represents “Deploy image to this host” from the WebGUI ( sort of ), then that should be named something similar.

@Tom-Elliott I agree that at the end of the day there’s almost so much you can do and that a well documented wiki is far more important than any of this, but I see little harm in trying to minimize ambiguity.

@Quazz i have never heard anyone say to image a drive and mean to create an image. I’ve heard “capture an image,” “create an image,” “pull an image,” “make a backup image” but never “image the drive” the only way to completely eliminate confusion would be to make the description ridiculously verbose.

^ working off that logic, having just “Quick image” makes no sense at all.

At the end of the day I care very little about this, just playing devil’s advocate I guess.

@Quazz I see where you’re headed, but that’s just it. You’re saying the exact wording doesn’t matter, but that’s exactly what this post is about. It’s about the exact phrasing being expressed clearly, where anybody can misinterpret any text however they see fit.