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Or it could be like me, they have had to have their neck fused with metal plates and artificial discs and that can seriously limit range of motion.

Very true. I learned on large vans with trailers a long time ago to navigate almost entirely with side mirrors, so that's my habit, but I do turn around sometimes to check distance, and I can imagine how helpful a backup camera would be if that were uncomfortable or impossible.

I agree, however. They could have stuck it in the gosh darn navigation/connect/armrest package with no problem. I also want the passenger side mirror to dip in reverse so my antrhacite wheels don't become a nasty two-toned mess.

On the question on backup-camera I´ll agree that its a bit overkill.
My last car was a Volvo V70 and that did also only had parking sensors, and I newer had any problems whit parking it.
... well that at least my opinion

That's why I didn't buy a CM Cooper S, my Cooper D stopped the clock at 64,000 USD. Makes me sad that the Norwegian taxpayers are ****ing timid bastards and follow whatever the propaganda the govt feeds them, Norwegians are like sheep being led to slaughter.

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Originally Posted by ViperX35

On the question on backup-camera I´ll agree that its a bit overkill.
My last car was a Volvo V70 and that did also only had parking sensors, and I newer had any problems whit parking it.
... well that at least my opinion

Mine to, my wife's car is a 2010 V70, she has no problems with parking either.

wow, i just learn the edges of my car and dont worry about it. i think people are getting to lazy about there cars. people want all these damn things, park assist, rear view cameras bla bla. give me a car with HP, a good seat and good handling

I agree that the use of the passenger side mirror...and moving it down helps with backing up...and I having the parking assist in the Countryman. The difference it seems, is that compared to my 08 MCS, the passenger side mirror placement doesn't provide as much visibility. I notice I don't get as much up/down movement as the drivers side mirror.

So far, it hasn't really been a problem... but it just takes a little longer to park.

Mostly, I'm looking forward to the rain easing up here in NYC so I can put more forward motion in gear...

wow, i just learn the edges of my car and dont worry about it. i think people are getting to lazy about there cars. people want all these damn things, park assist, rear view cameras bla bla. give me a car with HP, a good seat and good handling

Agreed. Why on earth would you need a camera in a MINI? I couldn't imagine an easier car to park.

Agreed. Why on earth would you need a camera in a MINI? I couldn't imagine an easier car to park.

Jeeze, Louise! Y'all need to lighten up and get a grip. Did it ever occur to anyone that parking conditions are different by location? You may have it easy in your (relatively) small town, but on the mean streets of the big city, things are different. If your area is known for high curbs, trash and garbage on the apron, a fondness for huge vehicles, tight parallel parking, cramped parking garages, deteriorated road surface, ect, ect, - - - well, you need all the help you can get. People who say they want a camera aren't any less of a MINI driver, they just want the tools that can assist in keeping their MINI safe and happy.

Well handled and well said Mr. Sealy. As a NYC driver, I concur.
Suffice to say as well, when all is said and done, many of us still
would not give up the overall pleasures of Mini ownership, despite our
desire for Mini to address various issues that keep
The Countryman from perfection.