Pennington played like utter garbage today. He couldn't hit anybody that was more than 5 yards away and even then he missed a lot. I'm getting very close to calling for Clemens.

The Bears did not play well at all, we had a chance to win it.

I agree, its Clemens time. Pennington has been so inconsistent this year. We should try clemens in late game scenarios where we need to go deep, or where we are losing big.

Were 5-5 right now with still a chance to make the playoffs beacuse of our schedule. Starting a rookie will not, I repeat, will not give us the best chance to make the playoffs. Pennington, even though inconsistent, gives us the best chance to make it to the post season.

You're right, that's probably true.

However, over the last 6 games, Pennington sucks. It's the only to describe it. He physically can't throw the ball more than 10 yards. And throughout this entire game we NEVER threw the ball more than 20 yards. And once again it isn't just this game, Chad has gotten progressively worse as the year goes on.

And the only things that he has had going for him are his accuracy and decision making. They don't exist anymore. He has more interceptions than he does touchdowns. That's not how Chad Pennington is supposed to play.

Chad isn't the future, there's no way that this team could possibly win the super bowl with him on the team. Not when the five yard dump off is the only thing our offense can do.

I'm not definately sold on throwing Clemens in there now; it is probably too early, but Chad is making it hard not to.

I don't think throwing Clemens in there is going to do much, but I don't see why we can't put him in the game if we need to throw a deep ball at the end of the game or let him play some garbage time to see what we've got. Pennington gives us the best shot to make the playoffs, but in reality against playoff defenses his arm just doesn't cut it, and when they bring pressure he makes bad decisions.

Pennington played like utter garbage today. He couldn't hit anybody that was more than 5 yards away and even then he missed a lot. I'm getting very close to calling for Clemens.

The Bears did not play well at all, we had a chance to win it.

We didn't play well? Hmm I guess I missed the boat on that one. Sure we didn't play great but we played very well in the 2nd Half.

Btw, I honestly thought Chad a stronger arm then what I saw today. But my god. Talk about a flutter ball on the deep throws.

Chad doesn't have an arm at all. In the first half I think we outplayed you, in the second half we were probably outplayed but not by a ton. One big play by Bradley and a stupid onsides kick call basically was your scoring. In general outside of those two plays you guys were better but not that much better over the course of the half. Rex did settle down a bit though.

Positives:
-Kerry Rhodes is an absolute beast, best Jets safety i've seen in a while
-Oline was really good again today, even the right side is improving
-Dewayne Robertson follows up last weeks big week with another good game; i think we have to see how this season plays out before we throw him out of town
-Ced Houston with a good comeback this week
-Tim Dwight has clearly developed as the team's #3 receiver and is a nice punt returner also

Negatives:
-Chad obviously has to step up his game for the Jets to make the playoffs
-Drew Coleman sucks
-I think the coaching staff had their first bad game of the season- called many plays (like the inside handoff out of shotgun) that weren't working, and the onside kick was not smart. Also it is clear that Mangini has NO confidence in Nugent from over 50 yds.- the coaches will be fine though
-Kevan Barlow did nothing to follow up his stellar week last week, even though he had few opportunities

Overall, not the worst loss for the Jets, we can still make the playoffs, but I am a little worried about the Bills and Dolphins who are right on our tail and are playing well. The best cure for this loss would to be for us to hand a nice 14 point loss to the Texans next week.

Pennington played like utter garbage today. He couldn't hit anybody that was more than 5 yards away and even then he missed a lot. I'm getting very close to calling for Clemens.

The Bears did not play well at all, we had a chance to win it.

We didn't play well? Hmm I guess I missed the boat on that one. Sure we didn't play great but we played very well in the 2nd Half.

Btw, I honestly thought Chad a stronger arm then what I saw today. But my god. Talk about a flutter ball on the deep throws.

The Bears had -1 passing yards in the first half. -1!! How on Earth is that playing well? The Bears gave the Jets every chance to win this game.

Which is why you play 2 halfs in Football, not one. And TJ ripped you guys for about 70 yards in the first half; and Benson had about 30. Rex actually had about 20 yards in the first half (not counting the sack yardage).

The first half was a stalemate, you guys may have had a little bit of an edge in play but not much, both teams were pretty stagnant. The 2nd Half we won which is why we won the game.

We took advantages of our opportunities and you didn't. We made the plays to win the game and you didn't. It was that simple.

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Pennington played like utter garbage today. He couldn't hit anybody that was more than 5 yards away and even then he missed a lot. I'm getting very close to calling for Clemens.

The Bears did not play well at all, we had a chance to win it.

We didn't play well? Hmm I guess I missed the boat on that one. Sure we didn't play great but we played very well in the 2nd Half.

Btw, I honestly thought Chad a stronger arm then what I saw today. But my god. Talk about a flutter ball on the deep throws.

The Bears had -1 passing yards in the first half. -1!! How on Earth is that playing well? The Bears gave the Jets every chance to win this game.

Which is why you play 2 halfs in Football, not one. And TJ ripped you guys for about 70 yards in the first half; and Benson had about 30. Rex actually had about 20 yards in the first half (not counting the sack yardage).

The first half was a stalemate, you guys may have had a little bit of an edge in play but not much, both teams were pretty stagnant. The 2nd Half we won which is why we won the game.

We took advantages of our opportunities and you didn't. We made the plays to win the game and you didn't. It was that simple.

I hate agreeing with a fan of the team that just beat us, but its that simple. The Bears did what they needed to win, we did not. In the first half they played poorly, we couldn't execute. In the second half, they didn't play their best game, but they played well enough to beat us, they made just enough plays.

Well, with our schedule the way it looks, our record should at least be 8-8 and at the most 11-5 obviously. I think we will go 9-7 probably with losses to either the Packers, Dolphins or Vikings. If we win out we can probably take the 5th spot in the conference or if the Pats lose to 3 teams we could take the division. If the Dolphins finish as strong as they did last year it is very possible that we take the division with the Pats losing to the Dolphins, Jaguars and Bears being their losable games. The only way I see us making the playoffs is the Dolphins beat the Pats in week 14 and then we beat them in week 16. If we lose one more game, especially if it is to the Dolphins, the playoffs aren't much of an option. The only way we make it is if we finish 5-1 in the division at 11-5 and the Pats go 11-5 and have a 4-2 divisional record with a loss vs. the Dolphins. Lets hope.

Pennington played like utter garbage today. He couldn't hit anybody that was more than 5 yards away and even then he missed a lot. I'm getting very close to calling for Clemens.

The Bears did not play well at all, we had a chance to win it.

We didn't play well? Hmm I guess I missed the boat on that one. Sure we didn't play great but we played very well in the 2nd Half.

Btw, I honestly thought Chad a stronger arm then what I saw today. But my god. Talk about a flutter ball on the deep throws.

The Bears had -1 passing yards in the first half. -1!! How on Earth is that playing well? The Bears gave the Jets every chance to win this game.

Which is why you play 2 halfs in Football, not one. And TJ ripped you guys for about 70 yards in the first half; and Benson had about 30. Rex actually had about 20 yards in the first half (not counting the sack yardage).

The first half was a stalemate, you guys may have had a little bit of an edge in play but not much, both teams were pretty stagnant. The 2nd Half we won which is why we won the game.

We took advantages of our opportunities and you didn't. We made the plays to win the game and you didn't. It was that simple.

Jones "ripped" us for 55 in the first half, not 70, which is still very good but not amazing and not like he completely tore us to shreds. Plus 17 of those came on his third and long run with the fumble review, which meant nothing since you just punted the next play. Benson had 26. We definitely had the edge in the first half, in total yards of offense we had a 81 yard edge at 141-60, more than double what you had. We actually put a few drives together. It's frustrating because we really did outplay you in the first half and then handed you the momentum after halftime and you got 10 points and the win. We got outplayed in the second half because you had the momentum on your side, and plus you could just sit back and hand it off and milk the clock because we can't stop the run. Grossman did better in the second half, but he only completed 50% of his passes! Plus he got about 1/3 of his yards because Bradley made a nice play after the catch because we can't tackle. If we took an early lead like we should have and forced you to throw the ball things may have been different and at least the game would have been more respectable, and if we didn't turn the ball over who knows.

As far as the playoffs go, I know Pennington gives us our best shot to win but I just don't see us going to the playoffs right now with him playing quarterback with the lack of consistency he has shown.

i tried calling this comment into WFAN during my luch period but couldn't get through. When the score is 0-0 how can you not trust your kicker, who was consistant from that range in college, from 52 yards and later i think from 50. If he was taken in the 2nd round i hope he's capable of making one.

i tried calling this comment into WFAN during my luch period but couldn't get through. When the score is 0-0 how can you not trust your kicker, who was consistant from that range in college, from 52 yards and later i think from 50. If he was taken in the 2nd round i hope he's capable of making one.

He's been a disappointment for me. His career long is like 49...I thought he was supposed to be a lock to solidify a team's kicking game for a decade and he certainly hasn't done that at all.

I would just feel bad benching Chad because of what he has done for the Jets. Anyone have actual footage of Clemens playing?

Merril Hodge was on record as saying Leinart was at best a 2nd rounder because of arm strength and VY was a late round developmental....WR at best. Its just because they weren't "factor backs". Basically on ESPN's 2007 draft coverage Merril will be plugging Brian Leonard for the entire first round.