re: How did this idiot we call the President con America?Posted by GoBigOrange86 on 4/26/13 at 6:46 pm to Alahunter

quote:You don't wish to discuss or debate anything

This is one of the biggest problems in political discourse today, and the President has simply fanned the flames. People are uninterested in actually talking about these issues. Instead, they divide people into neat little camps, paint everything as black-and-white, and view "the other" as not just someone who disagrees, but someone who is downright malevolent.

Reasonable people can believe liberal policies work. Reasonable people can believe conservative policies work. But we certainly don't talk that way, nor does Washington govern that way.

re: How did this idiot we call the President con America?Posted by real on 4/26/13 at 7:51 pm to Godfather1

Reading through this tread I knew it wouldn't be long before an Obama supporter would label the OP a racist. But then it comes out that ,the same name caller doesn't like America. Well I tell you what Ethan,pack you and your family up and get the frick out. We will never let the likes of Barak Hussien Ovama destroy this country. frick Obama and frick his wife,they sat in a Black liberation church for over 20 years, and yet dumbass white people went out and voted for that weak arse puss. His legacy will go down as the worst President in modern day history. And the idiots who are so supportive are the very ones that he is destroying. Ethan your people's unemployment rate is at historical highs. And going to go higher. Your people's family structure has been all but destroyed because of the democratic party, but I guess their to stupid to figure that out . Me and my people are thriving.

re: How did this idiot we call the President con America?Posted by cajunangelle on 4/26/13 at 9:06 pm to ClydeFrog

Skip the commercial and slide it to 2:30

Holder sent a magistrate judge to give the terrorist miranda and trumped the FBI with his DOJ rank. They were just getting good intel (without even using torture) and as soon as the judge Holder sent, got there; the terrorist lawyered up and shut up.

quote:The guy is an American citizen, and has rights enumerated in the Constitution. You guys bitch about Obama's drone strikes running roughshod over the Constitution, then bitch about this guy getting Mirandized. Pick a side of the argument and stick with it.

We have terrorists living on our soil, infiltrating our military that are in sleeper cells and are trained to mix in. (Don't believe me? See the Fort Hood shooter) While this is all unprecedented. I don't think it would be a far stretch to call terrorists enemy combatants.

Obama and the progressives despise torture. The FBI agents were getting excellent intel from this terrorist without using torture; that could very well possibly save a town near you or times square from being bombed. So, would you care to tell me why Holder trumped the FBI and got the DOJ involved to end vital questioning? I will tell you why, because Holder nor Obama wanted America hearing or discussing this terrorist and his supposedly 'on the run,' terrorist ties. The proof is in the media right now. That is trying to humanize these terrorists and give them every excuse in the book; while glorifying the terrorists so-called radical religion. The media went so far as to say the terrorist did all of this randomly because of head injuries boxing.

This is national security we are discussing not Obama's campaign and ideals. Or left V. Right. Both Holder and Obama showed in F&F and Benghazi they are derelict of their duties to protect their politics and ideals. They are doing it again. Obama is not above the law.

re: How did this idiot we call the President con America?Posted by WDE24 on 4/26/13 at 10:03 pm to Alahunter

quote:I think your overzealous effort to "call out" folks for their beliefs has reached an unhealthy level. You don't wish to discuss or debate anything

I agreed with a lot of what the op said. I merely pointed out where I thought he was wrong or went overboard.

quote:, as evidenced by your continual statements that you don't wish to research anything yourself, and rely solely on snippets.

Actually, I provide more research on this board than anyone I have debated. I have to because many on here take unreliable propaganda and pass it of as fact.

quote:If you truly had a desire to know why folks think things they do, you'd at least put forth an effort to try to understand.

I think if you read through this thread and try for once to read what I actually say instead of assuming more you would realize how wrong you are. There are too many here that assume if one doesn't believe every piece of unverified propaganda about the media or liberals then they are a liberal. A bunch of people here doing the exact same shite they get mad at the liberals and msm for doing to them.

quote:you don't even offer anything to counter the arguments given you, other than to attempt to set yourself up as some type of intellectual, with the silly comments. It's a shame.

This is just the most complete BS statement imaginable. The post history speaks for itself.

re: How did this idiot we call the President con America?Posted by cajunangelle on 4/26/13 at 10:25 pm to WDE24

quote:Actually, I provide more research on this board than anyone I have debated. I have to because many on here take unreliable propaganda and pass it of as fact.

You are a reasonable poster that tries to actually discuss and not defend *anything Obama.*

Care to discuss what exactly propaganda is? Because I could argue it is any alphabet channel in the MSM. Or are you speaking of the wacko infowars kind of stuff?

Care to discuss how good intel was coming from a terrorist without any interrogation torture tactics and a DOJ appointed magistrate ends it? Only Obama and Holder can order this in the chain of command.