Bear in mind when buying.... it's 30Hz on HDMI and 60Hz on display port

9th Apr 2014

Ooh.. Apple had better up their game with the next version of Thunderbolt Display! This is hot!!

9th Apr 2014

What's the refresh rate and so important?

9th Apr 2014

wakkaday

What's the refresh rate and so important?

Refresh rate is the amount of times the screen can display a new image every second. This is measured in Hertz (Hz).So a screen with 30Hz will refresh 30 times every second which is fine for videos/movies but may not be enough for browsing due to eye strain.60Hz is considered the sweet spot for PC gaming so you'll want to connect this thing via Display Port to get the full 60Hz (a single HDMI cable can't handle it).

9th Apr 2014

Just posted this, didn't realise it was a dupe. Heat added

Honestly thought this would end up going freezing! So good to see it's almost gotten to the front page.

Amazing value seeing as I paid pretty much the same as this for a Hazro monitor two years ago that ended up being probably my worst purchase ever - dust building up under glass, loose glass, virtually no warranty support after year one... at least with this you know it's made by a good company and you'll be properly covered with the warranty.

The only thing putting me off 4K at the moment is (apart from the obvious GPU requirements) is the UI problems... text is just right on 27/28" at 1440p, so on 4K it's going to be pretty damn tough to read...

Edited by: "mamboboy" 10th Apr 2014

9th Apr 2014

How would this fare as a main monitor for my main setup (Mac mini 2012)?

Would OSX look OK?

Are there any disadvantages to the monitor for normal use, browsing the web and maybe doing some photoshopping but nothing that needs proper colour accuracy

Currently using an iMac so will the TN panel be a massive downgrade to the IPS display in the iMac?

Cheers

9th Apr 2014

yus786

How would this fare as a main monitor for my main setup (Mac mini … How would this fare as a main monitor for my main setup (Mac mini 2012)?Would OSX look OK?Are there any disadvantages to the monitor for normal use, browsing the web and maybe doing some photoshopping but nothing that needs proper colour accuracyCurrently using an iMac so will the TN panel be a massive downgrade to the IPS display in the iMac?Cheers

I've run a 4K desktop screenshot [here] full screen on my 1440p monitor and the regular text is very hard to read. People with 4K monitors have to up the font sizes in everything, which obviously skews layouts in the browser for example.

Looks good but I'm not tech savvie but how much difference is this to a … Looks good but I'm not tech savvie but how much difference is this to a sub £150 monitor?

Much, much higher resolution basically. It's like cramming 4x1080p screens into a single monitor.

10th Apr 2014

ORDERED - Cheers for posting

10th Apr 2014

yus786

Hmm, interesting, might hold off for a bit till that's released and then … Hmm, interesting, might hold off for a bit till that's released and then decide whether to get a 30" dell 1440p or a 4K monitor for the mac miniCheers

I wouldn't hold out - Check out some of the You tube videos - picture looks amazing

10th Apr 2014

UHD at monitor distances tends to be fine, really, though I can only say this from sitting *very* far back from my 27" 2560x1440 monitor, idk about you but the windows 7 clock text is still readable to me at 5 feet, so UHD will be fine.

That said, I'm slightly more excited for the AOC monitor using the same panel, £500 instead of £480 but it has a VESA mount while this one doesn't, the default stand has height adjustment and where this one doesn't. Other than that there are a few extras like a USB hub, speakers etc. The only unknowns are input lag and additional features like PiP.

Hmm, interesting, might hold off for a bit till that's released and then … Hmm, interesting, might hold off for a bit till that's released and then decide whether to get a 30" dell 1440p or a 4K monitor for the mac miniCheers

the 30" dell is 1600p

10th Apr 2014

still feel like 4k is in its hype stage of its life cycle. I won't buy until the price is reasonable

10th Apr 2014

Is this not pretty pointless with only being 28"? Or am I missing something? Is it not the whole hd ready/full hd BS all over again?

10th Apr 2014

bo9dster007

Is this not pretty pointless with only being 28"? Or am I missing … Is this not pretty pointless with only being 28"? Or am I missing something? Is it not the whole hd ready/full hd BS all over again?

Depends on where you're sat. From across the room? Yeah this is pointless, but it's a monitor, it's much more in-your-face than a TV. The best comparison is probably a 14" 1080p laptop, if you can set that on the desk in front of you and read the text, then UHD on a 28" screen is fine. Go down to PC World and test that, because for some people it is actually a strain, for others it's totally fine (I'm in the lucky camp of being able to just about read small text at native on a macbook retina, and I wear glasses for this, wheeee, at the same time I know some friends with really unusual eye issues that can't read things on a 15" 1080p laptop)

10th Apr 2014

Display Port??? What's that? I've got a 2013 Mac Pro. Is there a way to connect this to the Mac Pro with 60HZ refresh??

Original Poster10th Apr 2014

ressoosnowdon

Display Port??? What's that? I've got a 2013 Mac Pro. Is there a way to … Display Port??? What's that? I've got a 2013 Mac Pro. Is there a way to connect this to the Mac Pro with 60HZ refresh??

U can connect via your Thunderbolt port on your mac

10th Apr 2014

I bought a 2560x1440 not too long ago, infact still recently enough for me to admire everything on the screen, so I'll hold fire until 4k is a little more affordable.

Display Port??? What's that? I've got a 2013 Mac Pro. Is there a way to … Display Port??? What's that? I've got a 2013 Mac Pro. Is there a way to connect this to the Mac Pro with 60HZ refresh??

It should work, because Thunderbolt uses the same connector as Mini DisplayPort, so you would need a Mini DisplayPort to DisplayPort cable.

I have a 27" 1440p monitor and I'm not going to go any higher than that yet. For gaming, you need a REALLY beefy GPU setup to get decent framerates at 4K. A 500 quid 780 TI will only get ~30 FPS in some games.

There's not enough 4K video out there to make it worthwhile yet and for other uses, I just don't need the screen real estate. 1440p is fine and allows me to have 2 apps running side by side comfortably.

I'll probably jump on this bandwagon in a couple of year's time, when there's more 4K content out there, GPUs that can handle 4K are more powerful, so a single one will do for gaming, and when there's some decent IPS (or other panel tech) options. I'm not a big fan of TN panels after using an IPS for so long.

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10th Apr 2014

skullx546

I bought a 2560x1440 not too long ago, infact still recently enough for … I bought a 2560x1440 not too long ago, infact still recently enough for me to admire everything on the screen, so I'll hold fire until 4k is a little more affordable.Not done any research, but my monitor won't output natively unless it's connected via DL-DVI, is displayport equal to, or better than that? I know HDMI isn't, my PS3 looks naff after playing anything on my PC.

DL-DVI, display port and HDMI are all digital connections so offer an identical image quality. Only difference is the refresh rates and resolution they support.

The reason your PS3 looks naff is not because of HDMI but because it's a 6 year old console.

10th Apr 2014

All of you that seem to cite small text as a disadvantage, why don't you

a. Change the dpi ?b. Change the resolution to say 1080p while browsing and typing, then when you want to watch a movie or do graphics work, you change it back?

I don't really see a down to this to be honest, 'cept the price but this is pretty good value for a 4k device at the moment.

10th Apr 2014

1ms response time and 60hz is awesome. You must use display port to get the most out of this monitor!

10th Apr 2014

I have the Asus 32-inch 4K display and even there the desktop is unusable at standard DPI settings. It'll be even worse on a 28-inch screen - everything will be smaller still!

I have that screen right next to a Dell 2560x1440 display and I still use the Dell more than the 4K screen for desktop work. I'd still rate 2560x1440 at 28-inches as pretty much the ideal.

But 4K in all its glory during gaming is a thing of beauty - if you have a high-end SLI or CrossFire set-up.

10th Apr 2014

computerjunkie

still feel like 4k is in its hype stage of its life cycle. I won't buy … still feel like 4k is in its hype stage of its life cycle. I won't buy until the price is reasonable

How is a higher resolution hype?

More pixels is brilliant. Clearer images, more screen real estate, better looking games if you can power them; if not then turn down the resolution.I wouldn't buy a 4K TV yet as there is next to zero video content out there.

Now I have to try and patiently wait for a Dell 4K IPS monitor.

10th Apr 2014

computerjunkie

still feel like 4k is in its hype stage of its life cycle.

4K TV is in the hype stage of its life cycle. 4K video recording for consumers is in the hype stage of its life cycle.

4K monitors have immediate, practical gains. There's little hype about them. However, this is still the early-adoptor period for 4K monitors, and I'm a little wary that we'll all discover little caveats over the coming months.

I'm not going to touch anything 4K unless it has HDMI 2.0 on it. This doesn't.

10th Apr 2014

oooo nice, Now to convince the wife I "need" one

10th Apr 2014

display port is the way to go, hdmi is looking more and more crappy by each revision

10th Apr 2014

alababaju

All of you that seem to cite small text as a disadvantage, why don't … All of you that seem to cite small text as a disadvantage, why don't youa. Change the dpi ?b. Change the resolution to say 1080p while browsing and typing, then when you want to watch a movie or do graphics work, you change it back?

a. Windows itself and many applications don't handle that well.b. That depends on how well it handles running non native resolutions. Some are so poor that it's not practical.