I took a really good photo of an Android phone on my iPhone once. Then I used a photo editor app on my iPhone to make it look like the Android phone was engulfed in flame.

It was glorious.

Then I cried because Steve Jobs is dead.

LOL That is great!

My wife uses her camera phone all of the time, but usually they are duplicates of photos we take on the DSLR so that she can easily have a copy to show the ladies at work, etc... Outside of uploading a few snapshots for Facebook, I don't use my camera phone much either. Just like when people use cell phones to make videos and upload them to YouTube. Gotta love all of the 8 fps videos out there. Can't stand to watch those...

One last retort on the camera phone thing... one of the main reasons i upgraded to the 4s was actually the optics, as well as the sensor.. The camera has a lens with a F2.4! i have taken several photos with it, as well as a couple short videos..

I would feel comfortable printing up to 8X10 with this camera... and MP isn't everything... Thats why i got the 5D. for the full frame sensor, rather than a different body with a smaller sensor.. I would venture to say that the camera in the 4S is the first "quality" camera in a phone... The sensor is a Sony sensor, so other brands will surely have the same sensor in the near future, but will those manufactures spend the same money on the lens? maybe/maybe not..

Alright, it has been a DUSTY morning. While only 40F outside, I was out there in my shorts and t-shirt cutting MDF for my backer boxes for my can lights and another box that will be a recessed outlet with space for a small "wall-wart" (Wart not Mart) and the fiber optic light box for my star panel. This time the panel will mount snug to the ceiling, unlike last time where it hung below it.

Anyway, here are a couple of pictures... Sorry for the picture quality, I had to reduce the 8 MP down to something more internet/forum friendly.

I used about three and a half 48"x48" sheets of .5" MDF. Here they are all marked up for cutting...

And here is the small stack of pieces that I got from using almost 100% of three of the sheets (very little waste)...

I not have 6 of the 12 light backer boxes and the one outlet box put together and sealant applied to the inside edges.

I have 6 more to go, but I am taking a break for lunch. I haven't decided if I need (or want) to put a layer of 1/4" cement board on the inside as well. I am sure that the extra mass will be helpful for sound proofing, but I should have more than enough clearance for heat from the little 3" can lights and enough air in there to prevent overheating...

For the boxes, which will be hidden anyway, I used a circular saw and free-handed it. Cuts weren't perfect, but very much good enough, and I didn't have to mess with setting all of the widths on my table saw.

If I was doing externally visible work, I would have used something more accurate, or at least attached a rigid straight edge to my material I am cutting.