What did YOU think of INDIANA JONES? Was it everything you thought you would be an then some? Was it your worst nightmare? What are your favorite parts? Your least favorite parts? Go absolutely crazy in the Strike Backs with all your thoughts on the KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL. This thread is for people who've seen the movie so no need to worry about spoilers.

INDY IS BACK, BABY!

Indiana Jones And The Coolness Of The Fourth Movie is what it should be called, because after a long time I could just sit back and relax and enjoy myself at a cinema. Yes, I am a TDK fan, which means my tastes go for the dark and gritty, but sometimes, I love to watch a casual movie, and Indy is just what the doc ordered. Cool, casual, charming, and comedic, Indy 4 is a perfect installment into the series, and does the titular character justice. Yeah, so "inter-dimensional" beings were

Indiana Jones And The Coolness Of The Fourth Movie is what it should be called, because after a long time I could just sit back and relax and enjoy myself at a cinema. Yes, I am a TDK fan, which means my tastes go for the dark and gritty, but sometimes, I love to watch a casual movie, and Indy is just what the doc ordered. Cool, casual, charming, and comedic, Indy 4 is a perfect installment into the series, and does the titular character justice. Yeah, so "inter-dimensional" beings were involved from other galaxies blah blah...who cares?! Leave logic and science out the door and just have a good time, people. Coz the man with the bullwhip is back!
P.S : Shia did awesomely well too!

Enjoyed it myself!

Can't believe there are so many haters already for this film, when I felt this was just as on par with the other films. Sure the CGI could've used some more polish, and some moments were rather cheesy with the random shots of gophers and monkey armies. But it's still the Indy we know and love. It's too bad the "die-hard fans" can't seem to accept that.

Can't believe there are so many haters already for this film, when I felt this was just as on par with the other films. Sure the CGI could've used some more polish, and some moments were rather cheesy with the random shots of gophers and monkey armies. But it's still the Indy we know and love. It's too bad the "die-hard fans" can't seem to accept that.

A tamer Indy..but its still Indy!

Saw it last night and well, I liked it! It had a lot of inside jokes for Indy fans, it had a lot of old characters back, and some interesting new ones.

I have to admit that John Hurt was my favorite new character. His absent mindedness was funny, and convincing as well.

Indy as a whole, felt a little restrained. I know this could have to do with the fact that everyone is a lot older now and all that, it felt to me like the movie was missing some of that extreme excitement we get in all

Saw it last night and well, I liked it! It had a lot of inside jokes for Indy fans, it had a lot of old characters back, and some interesting new ones.

I have to admit that John Hurt was my favorite new character. His absent mindedness was funny, and convincing as well.

Indy as a whole, felt a little restrained. I know this could have to do with the fact that everyone is a lot older now and all that, it felt to me like the movie was missing some of that extreme excitement we get in all three previous installments. This one was tame when compared to the old ones.

I did like the twists with Shia and Marion, that was cool. And overall it just felt like I was going back to visit some old friends.

I didnt think it was too "over the top" as some reviewers have been bitching about, Indy has always been this way. Indy is about being as over the top as possible, always has and always will be.

The alien plot line didnt upset me or anything, but it did feel like it was unresolved. What exactly did Kate Blanchetts character want to know? What exactly happened in the end of the film? It felt like it wasnt completely answered.

Shia was a good addition, and I liked the little nods towards him maybe becoming the future Indy? Hmm..

All in all, not a bad sequel. It just felt tamer in a way. Fun times in deed!

Certainly up to par with 2 & 3.
A great installment to the series. Don't listen to the word on the street, this flick owns!
Only warning: watch out for the scene with Shia and the Monkeys. But every Jones movie has a cheese scene.

Certainly up to par with 2 & 3.
A great installment to the series. Don't listen to the word on the street, this flick owns!
Only warning: watch out for the scene with Shia and the Monkeys. But every Jones movie has a cheese scene.

Bad *SPOILERS*

Not Phantom Menace bad, but bad. It was like they'd done such a cut-and-paste job with taking all the moments they wanted from the various drafts, that what they ended up with was essentially a first draft again. It needed a real, REAL polish, because what we ended up with were a bunch of sequences that had no through line of narrative reason (going over the three waterfalls, for example. There just wasn't any point, reason or consequence to it). Indy escapes a nuclear blast? Sure, why not? But

Not Phantom Menace bad, but bad. It was like they'd done such a cut-and-paste job with taking all the moments they wanted from the various drafts, that what they ended up with was essentially a first draft again. It needed a real, REAL polish, because what we ended up with were a bunch of sequences that had no through line of narrative reason (going over the three waterfalls, for example. There just wasn't any point, reason or consequence to it). Indy escapes a nuclear blast? Sure, why not? But in the context of what was happening at that point in the film, it wasn't involved with the plot line. There WERE some great sequences that felt like good Indy again - the most accomplished probably being the motorbike chase - but apart from that example, the potentially great action sequences that there were (say, the jeep chase) were hampered by either bad CGI or just going way to far into ridiculousness, and not in a 'fun' way - the tarzan swing with CGI monkeys, etc. I thought this film wasn't meant to be using CGI extensively? It was all over the place! If you're going to say in press statements that you want this film to do it all 'old school', don't have your first shot be centred around a CGI gopher. There were way to many extraneous characters - the point of the film that captured the 'old magic' the best was that first bit where Indy and Mutt were in the cave with the mummies - that dynamic worked great and Shia certainly wasn't the film's false note. They should've done away with Hurt, Marion, Winstone, and the 'Indy's Son' device and just kept it a streamlined Indy-and-new-sidekick verses Blanchett dynamic. And the entire third act just beggared belief - the 'aliens' thing might have worked better if they'd kept it a bit more subtle, eerie and mysterious, but by the time you get a full on CGI-alien frowning at them and Indy watching a flying saucer fly off? And then the redundant wedding sequence? Fuck that. I'm sorry to be negative, as I really, really came into the cinema wanting to like this. But I left disappointed. I know the above might read like nitpicking, but I really wanted to quantify my opinion rather than just writing 'I thought it sucked.' It's the worst of the series by a long way.

Not The Best, By Far, But...

For a guy who takes not only his screen name, but company name from the Indy film series, I have to be real about this... there I things I was privy to from having been on the set for a short time which lead me to believe that Lucas exerted a large amount of control over the film. Clearly, the script was firmly in his grasp and the cheesy scenes (monkeys, etc) were of the amazing, patented George Lucas Phantom Menace school of screenwriting. Lucas was indeed, as far as anyone working on the

For a guy who takes not only his screen name, but company name from the Indy film series, I have to be real about this... there I things I was privy to from having been on the set for a short time which lead me to believe that Lucas exerted a large amount of control over the film. Clearly, the script was firmly in his grasp and the cheesy scenes (monkeys, etc) were of the amazing, patented George Lucas Phantom Menace school of screenwriting. Lucas was indeed, as far as anyone working on the film could tell, The Phantom Menace on that set. He wasn't around much, but when he was you could feel the pressure.

Of course, I never talked to SS about it, but anyone could see that he wasn't pleased when George was around. All of this is to say that, if you loved certain things, well, that was all Steven and Harrison... If you hated things, that was George and Koepp.

Anyway. Overall, it was fun. It was more Theme Park ride with little rhyme or reason than full-on Indy film, but I enjoyed it none the less. Shia was pretty good, and Harrison had the sparkle in his eyes again. Williams score was great as usual (I got goosebumps at the start), and the whole thing was a good time.

For me, I guess they'll live in the order they were released in.

Ford recently said he'd do another in a New York minute (again), so... Steven? After you knock Lincoln out of the park, let's see another Indy... WITH Mr. Ford, not Mutt Jones as the lead. And hey, for old times sake, ask Lawrence Kasdan to write it. Maybe he'll put some words in Marion's mouth.

It's a shame...

The film relied too much on digital locations, with the other films, you felt like you were taking a trip around the world visually on actual locations. The action sequences, besides the motorcycle sequence, were rehashed, and again relied on CGI too much for any impact what so ever, and quite dull, a feeling which should NEVER happen in an Indy action sequence. The script, and about 60% of the dialogue was extremely embarasing. The return of Marianne's character, oh my god she looked like

The film relied too much on digital locations, with the other films, you felt like you were taking a trip around the world visually on actual locations. The action sequences, besides the motorcycle sequence, were rehashed, and again relied on CGI too much for any impact what so ever, and quite dull, a feeling which should NEVER happen in an Indy action sequence. The script, and about 60% of the dialogue was extremely embarasing. The return of Marianne's character, oh my god she looked like sh*t, and her acting was like she was making a guest appearence on an 80's television show. Harrison did what he could, what he had to work with anyway, cuz' they totally dumbed, and pussyfied his character. Shia seemed to be happy he was just part of the production. There was no sense of danger, no solid adventure, the filmaking was terrible, really, study the editing, and this is coming from two masters of film that we all know that KNOW BETTER! It played like a National Treasure or Mummy film after the first 30 minutes. I wanted to love this movie, and ended up feeling raped by George Lucas's massive ego, because that's what the movie played like, the Star Wars prequels. There is no doubt in my mind that Speilberg is ashamed of himself, and if he's not, he should be. For me, The Last Crusade is the last Indy movie, Crystal Skull will never be in my collection, because, you can't put a pile of monkey sh*t next to movie magic. Honest to say, I wish I never seen this garbage. This one will hurt your soul, and when all the hype, and the high is over from you seeing 'The Man with the Hat' on the big screen one more time you too will agree that this is a sad, and almost heartbreaking 4th movie. All in all this just an attempt for George to lengthen the franchise, this film is just business. No heart, no soul, little magic, all ego. It shows through it all.
This was a shame, and should have never been made.

Deeply dissapointed

About half way through the movie last night, I was feeling pretty good... by the end of it, I turned to my best friend and asked, "What the hell did I just see?"

This isn't a bad movie, per se... just hugely dissapointing, and largely forgetable.

I knew what Indiana Jones was before I knew what Star Wars was (I was 13 when I discovered Star Wars). I can remember conversations I had about friggin' Last Crusade with my 1st grade teacher. So needless to say, I've been waiting.

What I was

About half way through the movie last night, I was feeling pretty good... by the end of it, I turned to my best friend and asked, "What the hell did I just see?"

This isn't a bad movie, per se... just hugely dissapointing, and largely forgetable.

I knew what Indiana Jones was before I knew what Star Wars was (I was 13 when I discovered Star Wars). I can remember conversations I had about friggin' Last Crusade with my 1st grade teacher. So needless to say, I've been waiting.

What I was NOT waiting for was the return of Marion Ravenwood. So that's what was supposedly missing these last 20 years, eh? Marion friggin' Ravenwood?! Please.

Oh, looks like I've been missing out on CGI aliens too... and really bad head explosions... CGI monkeys... Tarzan... and three drop waterfalls!

Now, I'm not trying to say what they shouldn't put into an Indy movie or not. That's not my place. Aliens can be cool, no problem. The tomb sequence with just good ol' Shia and Harrison was magic. The skulls themselves pretty sweet.

But the whole second half of the movie just a massive let down.

You know what, too? George Lucas warned us this was going to be like this! He said the fans were probably going to hate it, Steven disagreed, but George was right!

Also, if it's any indicator, this film dissapointed me more than any of the prequals did... by a large margin.

This all being said though... it's STILL better than National Treasure and any other crap out there like it.

Pretty good

It was pretty good. It's not exactly the Indy of old, but I wasn't expecting it to be. It has its weak points--too much talking, some really cheesy scenes--but it was a good Indy adventure. The alien/psychic storyline fits with the time period, and the action scenes were pretty awesome. And I didn't mind or even notice the CGI that much. The haters went in either wanting to hate this movie or wanting it to be Raiders. But if you go in just looking for a fun time, this movie delivers.
And, by

It was pretty good. It's not exactly the Indy of old, but I wasn't expecting it to be. It has its weak points--too much talking, some really cheesy scenes--but it was a good Indy adventure. The alien/psychic storyline fits with the time period, and the action scenes were pretty awesome. And I didn't mind or even notice the CGI that much. The haters went in either wanting to hate this movie or wanting it to be Raiders. But if you go in just looking for a fun time, this movie delivers.
And, by the way Lionetti--It's MARION, not "Marianne." Look this shit up if you don't know it.

This may not be Raiders of the Lost Arc but...

I really had a good time watching this movie. I went yesterday and sat in anticipation for what promised to be the return of the only man I have ever had a crush on in my entire life, and I could not wait. I tried to keep my expectations in check because I knew in my heart of hearts that it could never equal the quality of the 1st and third films, but after watching the flick it most definitely lived up to and maybe surpassed the Temple of Doom and allowed me to relive a little bit of my

I really had a good time watching this movie. I went yesterday and sat in anticipation for what promised to be the return of the only man I have ever had a crush on in my entire life, and I could not wait. I tried to keep my expectations in check because I knew in my heart of hearts that it could never equal the quality of the 1st and third films, but after watching the flick it most definitely lived up to and maybe surpassed the Temple of Doom and allowed me to relive a little bit of my childhood and hear that classic John Williams score one more time. But my one complaint would have to be the lack of personal character building moments between the whole clan and I could have used a little less camp and a little more sarcasm. All in all it was a good time at the theater and thats all that matters!

I'm back for a little more then no more

As for the crew I was with... my friend too was very dissapointed. His wife thought it was, quote, "Just Horrible."

My girlfriend enjoyed it, as did her friend.

But in the end, here's what we all deserve and should demand to know, listed in no particular order:

1. We deserve to know what was the amazing Frank Darabont script, vetoed by George Lucas, but apparently 'perect', and the most amazing script ever read by Steven.

2. We deserve to know why the character development was so

As for the crew I was with... my friend too was very dissapointed. His wife thought it was, quote, "Just Horrible."

My girlfriend enjoyed it, as did her friend.

But in the end, here's what we all deserve and should demand to know, listed in no particular order:

1. We deserve to know what was the amazing Frank Darabont script, vetoed by George Lucas, but apparently 'perect', and the most amazing script ever read by Steven.

2. We deserve to know why the character development was so awful compared to the rest of the Indy characters. Even the boat captain in "Raiders" had more character to him than Winstone, Hurt, and Broadbent combined in this one.

3. Seriously, why waste time on the "Red Scare". We know Hollywood types hate it... but come on! The anti-Reds thing is nowhere on the same level of Nazi-bashing. Moving on...

4. The marriage of Indy and Ravenwood. Just stupid, lame, and uncalled for. If their romance would have been redeveloped, fine, great... do it. But it wasn't... Indy says one stupid pick up line, and boom... he's shagging her for the next five years until they both have a heart attack or stroke or something. Why even bring this into play?

5. The bastard son idea. Stupid, but not entirely unacceptable. Again, character development. Focus on that, not Winstone, or Hurt. Why was it a great idea to make Indy a bad father?

6. CGI. I'm shaking my head right now. Why?

7. I saw the Hellboy trailer before this film. You know what. Puppets (or muppets) are the bomb-diggity. I want more puppets back. Puppets are amazing. I want alien puppets causing Cate Blanchett's skull to explode. Enough said. Can I get an amen?! Where are our puppets?

WHAT GETS ME...

..besides all the CGI and talking and vinemonkeys, what really gets me is from day one people doubted Harrison was up to the task, he was too old, too cranky but the man delivered.. he was fast furious and funny and when the 'script' permitted he kicked some ass. Of the three people who needed to step up to make this happen (although including Lucas is pushing it) Ford came at us with his A game. The fight in the warehouse/ snake in the quicksand stuff was five star.

the reason this turd

..besides all the CGI and talking and vinemonkeys, what really gets me is from day one people doubted Harrison was up to the task, he was too old, too cranky but the man delivered.. he was fast furious and funny and when the 'script' permitted he kicked some ass. Of the three people who needed to step up to make this happen (although including Lucas is pushing it) Ford came at us with his A game. The fight in the warehouse/ snake in the quicksand stuff was five star.

the reason this turd took so long to make is because Ford cares about the character, wants him back on screen but wasn't prepared to do it with a bad script, unfortunately legendary though he is.. he is only mortal, he doesn't have another 19 year wait in him, so he caved.

so Ford, you come out of this mess unscathed, but don't relax quite yet.. Spielberg YOU owe us an Indy movie, call Darabont for help or even Robert Rodriguez if you have to (at least he knows how to use CGI as a tool not for Shrek-lite gophers) and Lucas- you can make as many action figures, books, and games out of it as you like but stay the hell out of the clubhouse, you blew it again.

Sure there were a few disappointing aspects (it seems like a no-brainer to me that the McGuffin in this one should have been the gold idol Indy tries to get in the very first sequence of Raiders) and I think everyone can agree that the CG was not up to par at all. Still though, it was fun as hell and great for what it was. I'm trying not to think of what the movie could have been, but just trying to appreciate it for what it was. No way was this a complete disaster and yes, I believe they

Sure there were a few disappointing aspects (it seems like a no-brainer to me that the McGuffin in this one should have been the gold idol Indy tries to get in the very first sequence of Raiders) and I think everyone can agree that the CG was not up to par at all. Still though, it was fun as hell and great for what it was. I'm trying not to think of what the movie could have been, but just trying to appreciate it for what it was. No way was this a complete disaster and yes, I believe they should have still made this film after seeing it. Just take all of your expectations out of it and you have a great Indy movie.

Letter to Lucas:

Dear George,

Please stop ruining my favorite movie legends. I had the chance to see Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (should have known from the title) by way of a sponsored sneak preview Tuesday night. I took my father and the two of us thankfully had a great dinner before the show.

**Spoiler** Now I normally wouldn't do this but I feel obligated to let my friends know, and hopefully save a lasting memory of one of our heroes. For months Indy 4 has been "shrouded

Dear George,

Please stop ruining my favorite movie legends. I had the chance to see Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (should have known from the title) by way of a sponsored sneak preview Tuesday night. I took my father and the two of us thankfully had a great dinner before the show.

**Spoiler** Now I normally wouldn't do this but I feel obligated to let my friends know, and hopefully save a lasting memory of one of our heroes. For months Indy 4 has been "shrouded in secrecy" so feverishly and I understand why. Anyone in their right mind who would want to sit through 2+ hours watching Indiana Jones and a bunch of sloppily acquainted friends run around South America carrying the crystal skull of an alien life form with certain magnetic powers that will lead it to an ancient resting place to be reunited with it's crystal skeleton and 12 other complete crystal skeletons that will then magically combine into one single alien life form in the flesh (special shout out to Spielberg for bringing back the Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind alien being...again) that will then fry the bad guys before turning the burial ground into a giant flying saucer that disappears into another dimension is more patient than I am.

I'll leave out the other ridiculous stunts, plot points, and special effects in case my friends find themselves up at 3am not able to sleep and catch this masterpiece on the Disney Channel in 2 years. Apparently that's your audience now George...Disney viewers under the age of 7 and insomniacs. Personally I have chosen to lock this movie away in the file with Episodes 1-3 classified as movies that don't really exist...right next to Greedo shooting first. My Indiana Jones chapter ends with Han Solo and James Bond riding off in the sunset.

P.S. I do feel obligated to let you know that my father did enjoy the movie...but he also feels Payback with Ben Affleck was a triumph in Science Fiction.

Enjoyable Indy adventure

A problem with some of the hate the new Indy movie is getting is that a lot of people are setting their expectations too high going in. It's certainly the fourth best in the series, but it is still quite enjoyable. Harrison Ford was back in his element and Karen Allen and Shia did an awesome job is well. The banter is funny and the action, while lacking a little compared to the others, was still pretty thrilling. My only major complaints would be that there was a little too much talk and the

A problem with some of the hate the new Indy movie is getting is that a lot of people are setting their expectations too high going in. It's certainly the fourth best in the series, but it is still quite enjoyable. Harrison Ford was back in his element and Karen Allen and Shia did an awesome job is well. The banter is funny and the action, while lacking a little compared to the others, was still pretty thrilling. My only major complaints would be that there was a little too much talk and the two scenes involving a refrigerator and monkeys was a little too goofy.
I didn't mind the (SPOILER!!!) alien connection because artistically, it fit the time period because that's the kind of B-movies that were popular in the late '50s. Let's not forget that the first three Indy's were also Spielberg's and Lucas' homage to the kind of B-movies that were popular in the '30s.
Plus if Indy can live in a world where a magic box from God can melt Nazis and rocks with diamonds have powers ( and beating hearts can be magically pulled from chests,) then WHY can't there be aliens?!
Overall, a very enjoyable Indy adventure!

I hated this movie. I really wanted to love it too. I was in denial of it's suckiness for about 3/4ths of it. It started off bad, got weirder, had some good moments, got bad again, got good, and then got really really stupid.

The drops three times thing killed me. But not more than the combining of the skeletons to create one large alien who flies away in his spaceship; it was that that made me turn to my friend and say, "God this is such a stupid movie."

It did not feel like and Indiana

I hated this movie. I really wanted to love it too. I was in denial of it's suckiness for about 3/4ths of it. It started off bad, got weirder, had some good moments, got bad again, got good, and then got really really stupid.

The drops three times thing killed me. But not more than the combining of the skeletons to create one large alien who flies away in his spaceship; it was that that made me turn to my friend and say, "God this is such a stupid movie."

It did not feel like and Indiana Jones movie at all. It didn't feel like a Speilberg movie either. Though, as much as I hated it, there were some thing in it that I really liked. My favorite would have to be..."I'm sure there were lots of women." "Yeah, but they all had one problem, they weren't you baby." That was the only spoken exchange that sounded good. This script was pretty much shit.

I really want to read Darabont's draft, it can't possibly be worse than this was. So I mean, if any one know where to find it...

Jasonicus

I would be insane if my points weren't valid.

Unfortunately, all my points are valid.

Btw, if you chose to read ALL what I wrote, you would see I didn't hate the movie but instead dissapointed, and as well, I didn't ever really say what was supposed to be in the movie... just what shouldn't have been in it.

Also note, that I say that having seen the movie... not before. After you see a movie, you can then say what works and doesn't.

Like I said, not a horrible film, just a

I would be insane if my points weren't valid.

Unfortunately, all my points are valid.

Btw, if you chose to read ALL what I wrote, you would see I didn't hate the movie but instead dissapointed, and as well, I didn't ever really say what was supposed to be in the movie... just what shouldn't have been in it.

Also note, that I say that having seen the movie... not before. After you see a movie, you can then say what works and doesn't.

Like I said, not a horrible film, just a dissapointment. And as we can see, at least half the people in here agree. SO are they insane too?

Awesome

Ok, so judging the movie on it's own merits (so not comparing it to the orignals), this is an action-adventure flick that far surpassed more recent fare, a la the National Treasure series (one of the most god awful film series EVER!), Sahara, and even certain fantasies. It moved quickly, was thrilling, and grat fun. All the actors were fine in their roles, even if the roles were oddly written (Blanchett's charactr was misplaced from another film I feel). Most of the visuals were quite good, and

Ok, so judging the movie on it's own merits (so not comparing it to the orignals), this is an action-adventure flick that far surpassed more recent fare, a la the National Treasure series (one of the most god awful film series EVER!), Sahara, and even certain fantasies. It moved quickly, was thrilling, and grat fun. All the actors were fine in their roles, even if the roles were oddly written (Blanchett's charactr was misplaced from another film I feel). Most of the visuals were quite good, and vine swinging made me laugh immensely, which I enjoyed.

There were a few moments that could've been better, but on it's own, it's the best action-adventure flick since 'The Phantom' (damn straight, I love that movie.

Now, comparing it the others, it's no 'Raiders' (easily the best in the series and one of the best adventure films of all time), but it's on par with 'Temple of Doom', with a better romantic subplot. It's fun, with cool action, if entirely unneccessary.

WELL ...

... what can I say: a steaming pile of c***. Lucas is to blame. It's pointless to waste words on this s*** (Tip said almost everything that needed to be said), but I'll say one thing: if they showed in trailer (or cellphone game which I played) what the movie was about, at least half of people wouldn't see the movie. This way, you can expect box office records.

... what can I say: a steaming pile of c***. Lucas is to blame. It's pointless to waste words on this s*** (Tip said almost everything that needed to be said), but I'll say one thing: if they showed in trailer (or cellphone game which I played) what the movie was about, at least half of people wouldn't see the movie. This way, you can expect box office records.

BOOOORING!

Just way too boring for my taste. Lame, Lame and Lame! They could have done much more and I thought that the Kate Blanchet character looked more like a Nazi than a Russian. I still found her quite attractive in an evil sort of way!

Just way too boring for my taste. Lame, Lame and Lame! They could have done much more and I thought that the Kate Blanchet character looked more like a Nazi than a Russian. I still found her quite attractive in an evil sort of way!

Terrible.

Absolutely, totally, soul-crushingly terrible. A friend and I went to the midnight premier on Wednesday, and sat in silence as the two hours rolled by and we sunk slowly but gradually into anger, annoyance, and disappointment.

This movie was not only terrible as an Indy movie, but terrible as an adventure movie, period. The Aliens were stupid and didn't belong in the world. The plot made no sense whatsoever. The waterfall was stupid. The monkeys were stupid. The Russians were stupid. The

Absolutely, totally, soul-crushingly terrible. A friend and I went to the midnight premier on Wednesday, and sat in silence as the two hours rolled by and we sunk slowly but gradually into anger, annoyance, and disappointment.

This movie was not only terrible as an Indy movie, but terrible as an adventure movie, period. The Aliens were stupid and didn't belong in the world. The plot made no sense whatsoever. The waterfall was stupid. The monkeys were stupid. The Russians were stupid. The Nuke-Fridge sequence was stupid. And the crystal skull was stupid.

They turned Indy into a feeble, emotional old man. They turned Marion into a MOM. But not a cool mom. A boring, smiles-too much Mom.

After the movie ended, we spent an hour yelling in the parking lot about how let down we were.

STOP IT!

I HATE it when people say "you have to go in with low expectations"... Its INDIANA FUCKING JONES, and its been almost 20 years since we see him. Yea i went in with HIGH expectations because you would think that in the BIG span of years they would do something right. But instead we get an anti-climatic movie with the same chase scenes OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER again. Thats why this movie is a dissapointment. SO please refrain from the "dont expect much" its an INDY film, we should've

I HATE it when people say "you have to go in with low expectations"... Its INDIANA FUCKING JONES, and its been almost 20 years since we see him. Yea i went in with HIGH expectations because you would think that in the BIG span of years they would do something right. But instead we get an anti-climatic movie with the same chase scenes OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER again. Thats why this movie is a dissapointment. SO please refrain from the "dont expect much" its an INDY film, we should've gotten a better story or something. And the WHIP was only used TWICE...TWICE!!! SO yea, it is boring movie with a boring anti-climatic storyline and just as the credits rolled i was just shaking my head. Not ONE person clapped in a full auditorium. Sure its gonna be a HIGH grossing film but the downfall is gonna be BIG.

Oh man, it was bad

After the movie ended, my theater clapped. I said out loud "Are you kidding me?" What a horrible way to revive one of the greatest franchises in film history. Stupid, childish, cartoony, and totally NOT an Indy film. Anybody else think the pacing was really poor as well? I know I love my adventure movies with 55 minutes of plot devices smack in the middle. Saw it last night, and I am still SO PISSED!!!!

After the movie ended, my theater clapped. I said out loud "Are you kidding me?" What a horrible way to revive one of the greatest franchises in film history. Stupid, childish, cartoony, and totally NOT an Indy film. Anybody else think the pacing was really poor as well? I know I love my adventure movies with 55 minutes of plot devices smack in the middle. Saw it last night, and I am still SO PISSED!!!!

Awesome, but not perfect

I thought IJ4 ws great. I saw it at a midnight showing and at first thought it was just okay, kinda weirded out by the aliens. But I saw it again tonight and I thought it was spectacular!! It had its faults (Shia's Tarzan stunt), but overall it was a great experience. Sure it isnt as great as 'Raiders' or 'Crusade', but it was as good a final Indiana Jones we could get from Ford and Spielberg. I would most definately rank this third

TLC>RotLA>KotCS>ToD

I never was a big Temple of

I thought IJ4 ws great. I saw it at a midnight showing and at first thought it was just okay, kinda weirded out by the aliens. But I saw it again tonight and I thought it was spectacular!! It had its faults (Shia's Tarzan stunt), but overall it was a great experience. Sure it isnt as great as 'Raiders' or 'Crusade', but it was as good a final Indiana Jones we could get from Ford and Spielberg. I would most definately rank this third

TLC>RotLA>KotCS>ToD

I never was a big Temple of Doom fan, and I enjoyed this one more than it!

Just a question...I have been talking to people about this movie to a bunch of people and they kept saying this was as bad as Temple of Doom. What exactly is wrong with Temple of Doom? That was always one of my favorites.

...And not even close to being as bad as this was.

Just a question...I have been talking to people about this movie to a bunch of people and they kept saying this was as bad as Temple of Doom. What exactly is wrong with Temple of Doom? That was always one of my favorites.

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I honestly need to see this film a 2nd time to fully critique it and compare it to the previous films. There was a lot to take in in one viewing and overall I enjoyed it, but not as much as I thought I would.

I was really intrigued by the story and I thought it was a more interesting plot and better MaGuffin then 'TOD'. I did a lot of research on the crystal skulls leading up to the film and I think its a great mythology. Me and a friend agreed that it might of been better if IJ4 followed

I honestly need to see this film a 2nd time to fully critique it and compare it to the previous films. There was a lot to take in in one viewing and overall I enjoyed it, but not as much as I thought I would.

I was really intrigued by the story and I thought it was a more interesting plot and better MaGuffin then 'TOD'. I did a lot of research on the crystal skulls leading up to the film and I think its a great mythology. Me and a friend agreed that it might of been better if IJ4 followed the 'real life' mythos and had the characters trying to collect all the skulls across the world...I think it would of been more suspensful...but o well. I really dig the 50's setting and the sci-fi element, but the villians did not stick out at all. Blanchett was good, but she had no memorable henchman and little screen time herself. I never thought she was much of a threat. The new side characters were also forgettable and paled in comparison to the likes of Marcus Brody + Sallah. Marion Ravenwood was not the same ol' Marion, Prof. Oxley would of been better if he wasn't outta his mind most of the film, the CG in the first half sucked, but was great later in the film (i.e. waterfalls, temple scenes), I wish there was more action with the awesome looking natives..they were definitely under used and I would of loved to have seen more of Area 51 (I thought it was one of the best scenes in the film) and this movie def has some of the most over the top Indy moments, but the only one I found too cartoonish and laughable was the 'fridge' sequence. That was more looney tunes than pulp. Still..I think too many ppl are being too harsh on this film..it may grow on you over time and after repeat viewings and I cant wait to see it again very soon!

After my first view, I would sum things up by saying KOTCS is not as perfectly balanced as Raiders, not as consistently action packed as Doom and not as funny and emotional as Crusade, but it is indeed its own film and one of the better adventure movies of the past decade.

I hate to admit this, but I think The Mummy 3 has the potential to be a better adventure movie than KOTCS, but that doesn't have to be a bad thing...I mean why can't there be adventure films that are better than an Indy movie...I would hope adventure films keep getting getting better and not worse.

I have to mention how awesome Ford was, Shia was great, but its not his time to take the hat and whip just yet (I loved when Indy took the fedora at the end right before Mutt put it on) and I don't care what anyone thinks, but seeing that classic flying saucer at the end was an excellent moment (though I'm not sold on the whole 'inter-dimensional' stuff. I prefer 'aliens' from plain ol' outer space.) So much is running through my mind...I really need to digest this film some more...

Two days ago, the most beautiful woman I have ever met dumped me after 6 months, then tells me she thinks she's already fallen for her flat mate. I never thought I could feel so low... but then yesterday I saw Indy 4. Now I definately feel cheated on. Spielberg & Lucas are whores.

Two days ago, the most beautiful woman I have ever met dumped me after 6 months, then tells me she thinks she's already fallen for her flat mate. I never thought I could feel so low... but then yesterday I saw Indy 4. Now I definately feel cheated on. Spielberg & Lucas are whores.

I typically like to wait a while after seeing a movie to write a review on it. But i had to talk about this one. The jury is still out, but overall i was not entirely impressed. I think Ford did great getting the "old indiana" idea across and i think it worked well introducing his son. But aliens? really? I think ancient inca gods or something would have worked just fine, and would have stayed closer to the true essence of the IJ movies. While the action in it was really good. It saddens

I typically like to wait a while after seeing a movie to write a review on it. But i had to talk about this one. The jury is still out, but overall i was not entirely impressed. I think Ford did great getting the "old indiana" idea across and i think it worked well introducing his son. But aliens? really? I think ancient inca gods or something would have worked just fine, and would have stayed closer to the true essence of the IJ movies. While the action in it was really good. It saddens me how much we have to rely on computer graphics these days. I think i speak for most people when i say that i would be just fine with seeing some action that could actually happen. We dont need him being shot into the air in a lead lined frige after a nuclear explosion. then simply rolling out, dusting off, and watching a mushroom cloud. or watching LeBeuff suddenly join his monkey brethren in swinging through the trees. little bogus.

I rank this a solid third among the IJ movies. And i would like to see another with Shia finally taking over. You can bet i'd go see it

It was aright.

People need to enjoy this film for what it is. It's a movie, not the second coming of Christ.

It's also self-evident to me that a lot of moviegoers didn't really enjoy this flick because they were so focus on criticizing every little detail of the movie instead of just relaxing, sit back, and enjoy the movie.
In this age of Internet movie blogging people over-criticize too much, it just goes in circles and it really doesn't go anywhere simply because it's pointless.

I think this movie

People need to enjoy this film for what it is. It's a movie, not the second coming of Christ.

It's also self-evident to me that a lot of moviegoers didn't really enjoy this flick because they were so focus on criticizing every little detail of the movie instead of just relaxing, sit back, and enjoy the movie.
In this age of Internet movie blogging people over-criticize too much, it just goes in circles and it really doesn't go anywhere simply because it's pointless.

I think this movie delivered. It had everything you can expect of an Indiana Jones movie and a little more. It was a fun flick and I enjoyed it...sure the film wasn't "perfect" but which film is?I really don't see why the big anal fuzz is about...The more I read and the more I laugh at the reasons people didn't like this movie. Those people should shut up and make their own fucking movie to see if they can walk the talk.

I'll see...

it tomorrow (today: Deux jours à tuer, aka Two days to kill, with one of best actors in the world: Albert Dupontel, also a great director: check out the cult Bernie, Le créateur and his latest, Enfermés dehors).
I don't expect a lot, since The last crusade was already a big disappointment. I hope there will be a little Spielberg in an ocean full of Luca$$.

it tomorrow (today: Deux jours à tuer, aka Two days to kill, with one of best actors in the world: Albert Dupontel, also a great director: check out the cult Bernie, Le créateur and his latest, Enfermés dehors).
I don't expect a lot, since The last crusade was already a big disappointment. I hope there will be a little Spielberg in an ocean full of Luca$$.

yeah...

while it had it's problems, I liked the movie. Story could of been a LITTLE more in depth, but overall it had me entertained. At least they had the guts to take a dip into the blue. though, if they did not use Lucas, then it would of been better. lol.

while it had it's problems, I liked the movie. Story could of been a LITTLE more in depth, but overall it had me entertained. At least they had the guts to take a dip into the blue. though, if they did not use Lucas, then it would of been better. lol.

New Title

I think they should rename it 'Indiana Jones and the why are the **** are there aliens!'. Makes you wonder what was in Frank Darabont script. Either that or Lucas read it and went "I like it Frank but i think it really lacks Aliens", Franks reply "What!". For the record this is the first negative post i've ever posted, i even let X3 go without bashing it, only cos i and the rest of the world knew it what suck tho, this should have been a lot better

I think they should rename it 'Indiana Jones and the why are the **** are there aliens!'. Makes you wonder what was in Frank Darabont script. Either that or Lucas read it and went "I like it Frank but i think it really lacks Aliens", Franks reply "What!". For the record this is the first negative post i've ever posted, i even let X3 go without bashing it, only cos i and the rest of the world knew it what suck tho, this should have been a lot better

Ok honestly...

Honestly I understand where a lot of you are comin from as far as the "take it for what it is" stuff but guys.....the movie wasnt good. was...not...good. Die Hard 4 was ten times better than this. And yes DH4 got ridiculous at times but it ewas still great...this movie sucked. Harrison Ford, Shia Lebouf and Blanchett were all good in it...but i blame this on the writers and [link] would mean you steven spielberg. I love The Beards work but this looked like Uwe Boll directed it.

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Honestly I understand where a lot of you are comin from as far as the "take it for what it is" stuff but guys.....the movie wasnt good. was...not...good. Die Hard 4 was ten times better than this. And yes DH4 got ridiculous at times but it ewas still great...this movie sucked. Harrison Ford, Shia Lebouf and Blanchett were all good in it...but i blame this on the writers and [link] would mean you steven spielberg. I love The Beards work but this looked like Uwe Boll directed it.

this felt more like a tribute to an Indiana Jones movie, rather than an actual Indiana Jones movie.

there were too many CGI special effects, too many "hey, look at what's happening now" moments, not nearly enough of bad ass Indy getting pissed and kicking ass, and way too much Shitty Labouff, or whatever his name is.

i don't know if it was Lucas or Spielberg or whoever, but someone dropped the ball on this one. it might not have been the worst movie ever, but it was no where near as

this felt more like a tribute to an Indiana Jones movie, rather than an actual Indiana Jones movie.

there were too many CGI special effects, too many "hey, look at what's happening now" moments, not nearly enough of bad ass Indy getting pissed and kicking ass, and way too much Shitty Labouff, or whatever his name is.

i don't know if it was Lucas or Spielberg or whoever, but someone dropped the ball on this one. it might not have been the worst movie ever, but it was no where near as good as the first 3.

GREAT

I'll admit it had some minor flaws but I loved it. All the classic stuff you expect from an Indy film is there (except aliens) and the cinematography fit the film well (there are some complaints about the guy). Also, I think that the youngsters who watched the movie will be just as entertained as those who watched Raiders all those years ago.

The one bad thing was yes, hinting Shia will take over.

I'll admit it had some minor flaws but I loved it. All the classic stuff you expect from an Indy film is there (except aliens) and the cinematography fit the film well (there are some complaints about the guy). Also, I think that the youngsters who watched the movie will be just as entertained as those who watched Raiders all those years ago.

"CLASSIC"

This movie was awesome! a classic indiana jones adventure, the action was great, the music score, the comedy, plus it kept the same look which was great. the story was original and very different, we been waiting a long time for a new indy film and i dont think we could have asked for better!

This movie was awesome! a classic indiana jones adventure, the action was great, the music score, the comedy, plus it kept the same look which was great. the story was original and very different, we been waiting a long time for a new indy film and i dont think we could have asked for better!

lost all faith in the big 3

Don't get old if you can help it because this is what happens to you, you lose your edge, what made you YOU. Case in point Harrison Ford, George Lucas and Steven Spielberg would never have screwed over a classic like "Raiders of the lost ark" by following it up with this stinker. This is what happens when you work for just a paycheck and follow very bad advise.

Don't get old if you can help it because this is what happens to you, you lose your edge, what made you YOU. Case in point Harrison Ford, George Lucas and Steven Spielberg would never have screwed over a classic like "Raiders of the lost ark" by following it up with this stinker. This is what happens when you work for just a paycheck and follow very bad advise.

Mummy Returns

That ant sequence was terrific ... when i saw it in Mummy Returns , and it was more effective . And the set design was mildly effective ... when i saw it in National Treasure . And the alien mystery was intriguing ... when i saw it on the X files .... The vine swinging was cool ..... when i saw it in Jungle Hunt ... should i go on ....

That ant sequence was terrific ... when i saw it in Mummy Returns , and it was more effective . And the set design was mildly effective ... when i saw it in National Treasure . And the alien mystery was intriguing ... when i saw it on the X files .... The vine swinging was cool ..... when i saw it in Jungle Hunt ... should i go on ....

Although i enjoyed the movie overall, it definitely didnt feel like an Indy film. It felt more like a side story or something in my opinion, Spalko wasnt a very good villian, Winestones character seemed pretty pointless overall, and Oxely was just annoying. I was hoping to see more fight scenes between Indiana and some unfortunate bad guys, but i think i might have only seen one or two. Its scenes are pretty easy to forget as well. I also hate the fact that they used aliens, every other movie

Although i enjoyed the movie overall, it definitely didnt feel like an Indy film. It felt more like a side story or something in my opinion, Spalko wasnt a very good villian, Winestones character seemed pretty pointless overall, and Oxely was just annoying. I was hoping to see more fight scenes between Indiana and some unfortunate bad guys, but i think i might have only seen one or two. Its scenes are pretty easy to forget as well. I also hate the fact that they used aliens, every other movie had something to do with God or a god. I think they could have done a lot better than this. Im very disappointed. If Lucas knew this was going to suck, he shouldnt have agreed upon this shady script. Oh well, hopefully the new Indiana Jones game will make up for it whenever it comes out, not the lego one.

Really had a fun time...

Yeah, there were problems with the movie but I gotta say I really enjoyed myself. Everybody in the theater last night had a great time, and that's all I look for in an Indy movie, to be entertained. And I was sure as hell entertained by Indy 4.

Yeah, there were problems with the movie but I gotta say I really enjoyed myself. Everybody in the theater last night had a great time, and that's all I look for in an Indy movie, to be entertained. And I was sure as hell entertained by Indy 4.

The Indy trilogy had it's own defined style of an Action/Adventure.
Lucas and folks seemed like they pretty much.....looked at current blockbusters.....POTC and added ridiculous scenes that just doesn't fit with the first three. All the action scenes in the first three are possible and not that ridiculous...but come on..swinging on vines...driving your car on a fucking tree...? and many more.
still...made for a very fun movie and Ford is still is badass.

The Indy trilogy had it's own defined style of an Action/Adventure.
Lucas and folks seemed like they pretty much.....looked at current blockbusters.....POTC and added ridiculous scenes that just doesn't fit with the first three. All the action scenes in the first three are possible and not that ridiculous...but come on..swinging on vines...driving your car on a fucking tree...? and many more.
still...made for a very fun movie and Ford is still is badass.

The man in the hat is back

I just saw this Yesterday and I loved it. Even though it could've done without seeing the actual aliens and the saucer. But all in all it felt like an Indy film. The chase scene in Boston reminded me of the chase scene in Venice from Last crusade. The original had the old western serial feel and this one took on the sci-fi feel of the 50's. it was weird though seeing cgi effects in the film when the original solely depended on miniatures and such. But all in all Harrison has still got it and it

I just saw this Yesterday and I loved it. Even though it could've done without seeing the actual aliens and the saucer. But all in all it felt like an Indy film. The chase scene in Boston reminded me of the chase scene in Venice from Last crusade. The original had the old western serial feel and this one took on the sci-fi feel of the 50's. it was weird though seeing cgi effects in the film when the original solely depended on miniatures and such. But all in all Harrison has still got it and it was fun to watch. can't wait for the dvd/blu-ray. Congrats on another great Indy story.

I've seen the light..

Okay.. I'm 24, and i've realised i'm an old fart. I just watched this flick for the 2nd time,saturday matinee showing.. usually i dread these for the screaming obnoxious kids but this time.. hoboy was it different.. these 8 year olds were glued to the screen, wincing at bugs laughing at the gags riding along..

For all us old cynics who moaned about the 'incredible unrealistic stuff' i've got news for you..

yes Shia swings with monkeys, it looks fake and it lasts for two seconds..
IN

Okay.. I'm 24, and i've realised i'm an old fart. I just watched this flick for the 2nd time,saturday matinee showing.. usually i dread these for the screaming obnoxious kids but this time.. hoboy was it different.. these 8 year olds were glued to the screen, wincing at bugs laughing at the gags riding along..

For all us old cynics who moaned about the 'incredible unrealistic stuff' i've got news for you..

yes Shia swings with monkeys, it looks fake and it lasts for two seconds..
IN last Crusade Sean blew up a German fighter plane with an umbrella and some seagulls!!!!!! THAT was rubbish but we still love it!!

So.. Indy escapes a nuclear blast in a lead lined fridge... so? in RAIDERS he toppled a fifty foot STONE statue with his feet to escape a temple!!! that looks fake!
Marion drives a car onto a branch (that she checked out ahead of time) to escape, in TEMPLE Indy jumps out of a PLANE in a RUBBER BOAT and lives.

You hate the ending of crystal? I remember EVERYONE bitching about the knight in the last crusade. You have to put these things into perspective.. Remember how you accepted the ropey matte lines, jumping minecarts and planes driving into tunnels on saturday evenings (probably while your folks laughed at how unrealistic it is) and realise you will own and re-view this on DVD and love it.

Pretty derivative

Coming from an originally trend-setting guy like Lucas this is pretty pathetic attempt at recreating lightning in a bottle. But then Lucas already demonstrated he had lost whatever credibility he clung to when he made Episode 1.

Raiders and Last Crusade were classics in every sense of the word, and the reason was they managed to effectively blur the lines between reality and fantasy. They didn't even attempt that with this film. When a movie starts off with Indiana Jones riding a rocket car

Coming from an originally trend-setting guy like Lucas this is pretty pathetic attempt at recreating lightning in a bottle. But then Lucas already demonstrated he had lost whatever credibility he clung to when he made Episode 1.

Raiders and Last Crusade were classics in every sense of the word, and the reason was they managed to effectively blur the lines between reality and fantasy. They didn't even attempt that with this film. When a movie starts off with Indiana Jones riding a rocket car to a town only to escape being blown up by an atomic bomb by climbing into a refrigerator, it goes without saying that they're just not trying.

Hopefully a day will come when we see what Frank Darabont's script for this movie looked like (though at the very least it won't have one of those stupid subtitles that Lucas has been so fond of lately). Ironically enough Lucas turned down that script saying it just wasn't a real Indiana Jones movie. Sorry to tell you this, Lucas, but neither was the script you chose.

This movie, in addition to making fun of the earlier films (and not homaging them or trying to recreate what made the earlier films work) succeeds in only being derivative. The premise is a mash-up of 'The Final Sacrifice', 'Vibes' and 'Stargate'. The ending, which has to be seen to be believed (bad FX and lame speech that rips off (badly) from Last Crusade) is the final nail in this franchise's coffin. To add insult to injury Lucas has now said that he wants to make a fifth film starring Shia LaBoeuf with a brief cameo from Harrison Ford (how do you make a movie with a title character only making a cameo?). Since its release Harrison Ford has gone on record to say he will not return for a fifth movie at all.

The peripheral characters (or side-kicks, whatever) are not characters at all but plot devices used (crudely) to move the premise along. The so-called twists only succeed in making you less interesting in what's going on. The dynamic between Marion and Indiana is gone, whatever potential there may have been for a dynamic (father-and-son) between Indiana and Mudd (yes, that's his nickname) have been wasted and Shia (I guess in Speilberg's hope that his feeling empathy for Oxley for also endear us to the one-dimensional character) cries in the background of scenes when he has nothing better to do.

Long story-short, this is a mess. Just go see Iron Man for a second or third time instead.

My heart hurts...

This one will hurt your soul, and when all the hype, and the high is over from you seeing 'The Man with the Hat' on the big screen one more time you too will agree that this is a sad, and almost heartbreaking 4th movie. All in all this just an attempt for George to lengthen the franchise, this film is just business. No heart, no soul, little magic, all ego. It shows through it all.
I've never been so embarrassed seeing a film like this before. This was a shame, and should have never been made.

This one will hurt your soul, and when all the hype, and the high is over from you seeing 'The Man with the Hat' on the big screen one more time you too will agree that this is a sad, and almost heartbreaking 4th movie. All in all this just an attempt for George to lengthen the franchise, this film is just business. No heart, no soul, little magic, all ego. It shows through it all.
I've never been so embarrassed seeing a film like this before. This was a shame, and should have never been made.

Meh...

Kind of a let down. Some of the action scenes were far too over-the-top for an Indy movie. I felt like I was watching the next Tomb Raider movie. Too much CGI, too many useless characters. It was entertaining, though. I was glad to see Indy back, but it could have been better.

Kind of a let down. Some of the action scenes were far too over-the-top for an Indy movie. I felt like I was watching the next Tomb Raider movie. Too much CGI, too many useless characters. It was entertaining, though. I was glad to see Indy back, but it could have been better.

I just want to figure out whats with all the hate. I just saw Crystal Skull for the second time and it was just a great as it was the first time. I even watched Raiders and Temple when I got home from the theater and heres the part that a lot of people aren't getting, they all feel like they go together. I think that you people are reluctant to enjoy this new Indy because the originals have been with us so long that they

I've already given my review on this flick and it rocks pretty hard.

I just want to figure out whats with all the hate. I just saw Crystal Skull for the second time and it was just a great as it was the first time. I even watched Raiders and Temple when I got home from the theater and heres the part that a lot of people aren't getting, they all feel like they go together. I think that you people are reluctant to enjoy this new Indy because the originals have been with us so long that they are "golden movies", and they are! But really, take a look at this new film along side the original three and you'll see that it is put together the same way. Everything that I've heard people complain about; Silly scenes, over-the-top action, and shallow sub-character, etc. All these things are in the originals and in Temple and Crusade these things happen much more than in Crystal Skull. I'm just saying that this film is just like the originals and people need to realize that. The three original Indy films were awesome, but they were awesome because of their flaws, the same flaws that this new edition has. Just go back and watch the originals after seeing Crystal Skull and you'll see for your self.

Oh ya, also the kids name is Mutt (like a dog, get it. Indiana/Mutt) It's not Mudd like everyone thinks. Check IMDB.
Stop the Hate!

I'm on the fence with Indy 4. I really wanted to like it, but, like others, could have done without the nuclear blast scene and monkey swinging scene. I think what I liked about the other action scenes in the previous movies is that they still retained a strain of probability; you could believe that someone who's been through as many adventures as Indiana Jones has can pull off some crazy stunts. I also felt that they showed "too much" with the ending. I liked how the other films retained a

I'm on the fence with Indy 4. I really wanted to like it, but, like others, could have done without the nuclear blast scene and monkey swinging scene. I think what I liked about the other action scenes in the previous movies is that they still retained a strain of probability; you could believe that someone who's been through as many adventures as Indiana Jones has can pull off some crazy stunts. I also felt that they showed "too much" with the ending. I liked how the other films retained a kind of mysticism, and allowed you to imagine more. The final climatic scene was just too much.

I did like the film, but not as much as I would have liked. Maybe I'll change my mind in time.

It was just lazy filmmaking

Spielberg is a liar. A shameless liar. He said with a straight face that this Indy wouldn't rely on CGI, then the very first shot is a CGI Caddyshack gopher (or some such rodent). And every following shot proceeds to be CGI as well. The jungle car chase was a disaster. It's a sad day when Spielberg starts stealing ideas from Stephen Sommers "The Mummy"... and "The X-Files"... and "X-Men: The Last Stand." And why bring Marion back if you're going to give her nothing to do? Why introduce

Spielberg is a liar. A shameless liar. He said with a straight face that this Indy wouldn't rely on CGI, then the very first shot is a CGI Caddyshack gopher (or some such rodent). And every following shot proceeds to be CGI as well. The jungle car chase was a disaster. It's a sad day when Spielberg starts stealing ideas from Stephen Sommers "The Mummy"... and "The X-Files"... and "X-Men: The Last Stand." And why bring Marion back if you're going to give her nothing to do? Why introduce Mutt Williams just to have him virtually disappear near the end of the movie? Why have the Oxley character in it at all when his role could have easily been rewritten for Marion? Why the hell have the character of Mac? He just takes up space.

Just sad.

This is what they waited 19 years for? This is without a doubt the laziest script of the entire Indiana Jones movie. Lucas, please stop making movies. It's obvious you have no idea what made your films popular and exciting in the first place.

ummmm wow...

This KINDA sucked and blew chunks... Ok so we all know it wasn't a real "Indy" film. It lacked the actual essence of THEE Indiana Jones that made the original 3 classics. I read somewhere that it was less Indy and more Harrison and you know what? I think they were absolutely right! I wish I knew what they were thinking during this one I really do. I remember in the behind the scenes on the boxed set how Spielberg hated Temple and blah blah blah how he doesn't know what he was thinking blah blah

This KINDA sucked and blew chunks... Ok so we all know it wasn't a real "Indy" film. It lacked the actual essence of THEE Indiana Jones that made the original 3 classics. I read somewhere that it was less Indy and more Harrison and you know what? I think they were absolutely right! I wish I knew what they were thinking during this one I really do. I remember in the behind the scenes on the boxed set how Spielberg hated Temple and blah blah blah how he doesn't know what he was thinking blah blah blah but what I'd like to ask him, IS WHAT THE FUCK WAS HE THINKING HERE?! Like I wanna meet him and punch em' in the FUCKIN' throat for this one and then thank him for the classics he gave us in the past. But all in all I have come to EXCEPT and UNDERSTAND why. It isn't an Indiana Jones performance like the others but rather, an ENCORE for US... for the PEOPLE... the FANS. Sure, they could have done better and done some justice to the franchise but they're just money hungry. They have lost their sight, they have lost what made them great. They don't CARE about us anymore... :-( Hey by the way remember that South Park episode with George Lucas?[link]

Not going to say it is bad, but it is not a classic

I have to agree with some of the people that felt the new movie was lacking something. As I watched the movie it just seemed like something was missing. Also what the hell was up with Karen Allen? She was missing the spunk that she had in the first Indy movie. Her lines seemed forced and her role in general rather pointless other than to tell Indy that he has a ***. While it was slightly entertaining there were a lot of low points. I actually have to right a longer review of the film so I

I have to agree with some of the people that felt the new movie was lacking something. As I watched the movie it just seemed like something was missing. Also what the hell was up with Karen Allen? She was missing the spunk that she had in the first Indy movie. Her lines seemed forced and her role in general rather pointless other than to tell Indy that he has a ***. While it was slightly entertaining there were a lot of low points. I actually have to right a longer review of the film so I am just going to say here that I agree with a 5/10. Decent but not classic.

Awesome

I don't get why everyone hates this one.I think it's a good movie and fits well into the seris. Yes a lot of things will never happen in real life but that's Indy live with it. I think everybody hates it because they don't want to leave the old ones. And by the way the monky scean with Mutt, it lasted for like 5 seconds and it wasn't a big deal.

I don't get why everyone hates this one.I think it's a good movie and fits well into the seris. Yes a lot of things will never happen in real life but that's Indy live with it. I think everybody hates it because they don't want to leave the old ones. And by the way the monky scean with Mutt, it lasted for like 5 seconds and it wasn't a big deal.

Temple of Doom remains the worst of the trilogy. The key word there is trilogy. Crystal Skull was more like a bad summer action movie mash up with the Indiana Jones name tacked on for good measure. Not a bad popcorn movie, something to waste some time with on a Friday night, but nowhere near the level of the originals.

Also, to all the hardcore haters... Just don't go see it. If you don't like it, don't give them money for it. That only encourages them. Ignore it, don't buy the merch, leave

Temple of Doom remains the worst of the trilogy. The key word there is trilogy. Crystal Skull was more like a bad summer action movie mash up with the Indiana Jones name tacked on for good measure. Not a bad popcorn movie, something to waste some time with on a Friday night, but nowhere near the level of the originals.

Also, to all the hardcore haters... Just don't go see it. If you don't like it, don't give them money for it. That only encourages them. Ignore it, don't buy the merch, leave it be.

Respect!

Dear lord... the guy came UP with the entire franchise and you don't shimmy with one of his ideas so now you know better?

I'm not gonna get into the finer points of what makes ewoks cool, or at the very least acceptable (force of nature, aliens, et cetera), but I will just put it all under a quaint category titled "Shit people take too seriously".

Dear lord... the guy came UP with the entire franchise and you don't shimmy with one of his ideas so now you know better?

I'm not gonna get into the finer points of what makes ewoks cool, or at the very least acceptable (force of nature, aliens, et cetera), but I will just put it all under a quaint category titled "Shit people take too seriously".

Even Jar Jar was fine as an quirky alien race... and even with that the fans bitched so much Lucas put in the ironic development that he was basically RESPONSIBLE for the creation of the Empire *cue 'wah waaaaah' sound*

Same thing is happening with Indy IV.

The movie was AWESOME. It was fun as hell, and overall it FELT like Dr. Jones to me. And the more the characters talked the more I got an idea of what Indy had been through during his hiatus and the more he became just... a GOD of an action hero in my head, moreso than before.

I heard someone review it and complain that aliens were involved, and not the "power of a god". Well... that WAS their god. It's a clever play on all that speculation behind the mayas and I thought it was great.

The ONLY downside to this movie is that Spalko wasn't as great a villainess as I thought she'd be... that and the monkey vines. But those are two MINOR blemishes on an otherwise great movie experience.

Anybody who thinks otherwise is simply stating the obvious: "This movie isn't Raiders"... and that isn't Spielberg's fault. It's because the only way this movie would please fans is if they went back in time and made it in 1980.

For geeks, old stuff is great, new stuff sucks, and these arguments are never gonna change.

I think Roger Ebert said it best in HIS review of Indy IV, comparing the quadrilogy two four pounds of delicious sausage: "I can also say that a critic trying to place it into a hierarchy with the others would probably keep a straight face while recommending the second pound of sausage

SHOVE IT HATERS

To all you little fanboys and nerds alike. GEORGE, STEVEN, AND EVEN HARRISON HIMSELF, have said there would be NO WAY, NO WAY, NO WAY!!!!!. that any new Indy movie would stand with the others. Think of it this way, even if Crystal Skull was first in the series, and Raiders was this weekends release, all you little sucky babies would still be complaining. Just like Stars Wars, or you could probably even throw any triligy in there, by the time you get further into it, the anticipation for each

To all you little fanboys and nerds alike. GEORGE, STEVEN, AND EVEN HARRISON HIMSELF, have said there would be NO WAY, NO WAY, NO WAY!!!!!. that any new Indy movie would stand with the others. Think of it this way, even if Crystal Skull was first in the series, and Raiders was this weekends release, all you little sucky babies would still be complaining. Just like Stars Wars, or you could probably even throw any triligy in there, by the time you get further into it, the anticipation for each movie gets bigger and greater for which no matter how good the movie is people just won't have the same expectations. So for you so called fanboys or just people would wanted to watch the movie, heres a tip, go to the movies to be entertained, not to be blown away. Keep your expectations to a minimum and enjoy yourself. There is a difference between Fanboys, and fanatics.

PS. If you happen to see any Fanatics, do me a favor and kick them in the nuts.

WHAT THE...?

Did I just watch an Indiana Jones movie?
Because the Indiana Jones movies I remember watching were actually good.
Not that this movie was horrible, as it definitely had some good moments; Indy and Mutt in the burial chamber in South America, and again at the Lost City of Gold where there are secret passages and traps that were regular fixtures in the first 3 movies. Also, some of the action sequences were sustainable, as well as most of the acting.
However, this movie has major flaws that

Did I just watch an Indiana Jones movie?
Because the Indiana Jones movies I remember watching were actually good.
Not that this movie was horrible, as it definitely had some good moments; Indy and Mutt in the burial chamber in South America, and again at the Lost City of Gold where there are secret passages and traps that were regular fixtures in the first 3 movies. Also, some of the action sequences were sustainable, as well as most of the acting.
However, this movie has major flaws that enable this movie as being a classic in film like the others. And despite how much ppl like it, THEY even admit it had its downsides. Why would you love a movie when you have to sit through rediculous scene after scene just to get to 1 good one. If a movie has any (or more)bad parts to it, that makes it a lousy movie. Remember good film making that made the first trilogy awesome?

Someone else here said it best that Speilberg has lost his movie making magic-and I could'nt agree more!!!!
And Lucas, well we all know he's an egotistical no-talent dips*** since the Star Wars prequels.
I should mention that I am well aware that this movie isn't real life or anything, and unrealistic things happen in the Indy world, but this time round I felt like my intelligence was being insulted.
In my opinion, the flaws in the film were abundant.
CGI was all over the place, after I thought I read Spielberg saying they were going to keep it 'old school'. CGI gophers and monkeys? Let me guess, for the kids right? Real wild animals would'nt stare at you 2 feet away and make a cutesy face-it would either bolt in the other direction or attack! Seemed so much like the Star Wars prequels where all of a sudden there'd be this cute alien out of nowhere that makes cute noises just to appeal to the soccer moms and kids out there. F***, get some balls and make a movie YOU want to make and stay consistant for christ sake, because if you try to please everyone it turns into a big pile of clown barf. By the way how did Mutt and those monkeys bond so damned quickly anyway? KILL MY PRETTY MONKEYS, KILL!
And crap those pesky human eating ants are pretty loud and fast arnt they? They can eat you in less than a minute unless you hear them from a mile away. Pfff so realistic!
As for the most far fetched action sequences, ie. the fight between Spalko and Mutt on top of both those cars blasting through a jungle on an amazingly smooth ground without falling off, was absolutely absurd, as was Marion driving that car off the ledge only to land safely in a tree as if she had planned it all along- not to mention the whole atomic blast/fridge escape scene which I hope they remove from the movie entirely upon DVD release simply because it was the worst idea EVER! Good thing that fridge door hung in there!

Too much alien mumbo jumbo (which I was surprisingly cool with)didn't have the same Indy feel either, as well as the UFO ship sailing into the sunset as Indy says "Their treasure was knowledge."-F***IN' PLEASE! What a cheap after-school special line!
John Williams didn't have much of an overcoming feel here with his music as he did in the others; the lighting, and scenes seemed like an entirely different franchise and not the 'glowy' feel you got from the others, except for some basic Spielbergesque cinematography.
Marion was too smiley and seemed to not really care too much about her predicament-also shes turned into a soccer mom. Ray Winstones' character could've been cut entirely and it wouldn't have made a difference. And Harrison Ford was pretty much playing himself as it seemed like he forgot how to play Indiana Jones.
There were too many times when it would just jump from scene to scene without a bridge or segue scene; I mean how did they climb up that waterfall so fast, (not to mention how did they survive not 1 but 3 huge waterfall drops the size of Niagara Falls);and also they'd be talking about Peru and all of a sudden the big map pops up and they're already going there on a plane or ship. Ok that was fast. Give me some time to catch up here!
And lastly, plot elements were thrown in just to either propel the story or make it 'interesting' like Indy getting fired from his job, and the marriage at the end.

Overall, it was worth watching, but definitely shouldn't be reveered as a classic like the others...or even a good movie, and if they make two more featuring Indy's new son, Mutt Jones and the Palace of the Golden-Monkeys or somes***, give it a second thought because Spielberg and Lucas don't need to ever be encouraged again.

And for the record TEMPLE OF DOOM rocks!! for all you TOD haters-"Sounds like we're stepping on fortune cookies!"

4) Some of the action (warehouse chase scene, motorcycle chase, and even the atomic bomb scene)

5) Harrison Ford... I'm 29 and he's in better shape than I am! He and Indy are still my all-time favorite Hollywood heroes...

What I didn't like:
1) Too much Lucas involvement in the story (Spielberg wasn't good enough to cover for him this time); it got kind of convoluted for my tastes, and a little too ambiguous at the climax

2) The rest of the action: too CGI dependent, over-the-top, silly (e.g., the oft-mentioned Tarzan stuff, the car in the tree, the drawn-out waterfall scene)

3) Most of the last 15-20 mins.

4) The characters seemed to be going through the motions for much of the movie, with Indy as more of an entourage character than the star. It became The Beef's show at some points... meh. The characters just aren't as engaging (or necessary, in Ray Winstone's and John Hurt's case) this time around.

All in all, I feel a little better about it now after a good night's sleep. If you look at it as one more chapter in the on-going adventures of Indy (including the Young Indy adventures, ROTLA, TOD, and LC), it's acceptable and occaisionally fun. I'd give it a C+

A Solid Entry in the INDY Franchise

I didn't like the monkey scene, when Shia almost put on the hat, some of the weak dialog, and the overusage of CGI in the Jungle Chase, but other than that...

AWESOME.

A solid Indy flick that isn't as good as the others mainly because they are classics and this one is too new.

Great action sequences (opening, motorcycle chase, graveyard, and jungle chase all live up to the old fims) , a real fun 50s vibe (loved the Cold War and Greaser bits), and good sidekicks and villains (Splatko

I didn't like the monkey scene, when Shia almost put on the hat, some of the weak dialog, and the overusage of CGI in the Jungle Chase, but other than that...

AWESOME.

A solid Indy flick that isn't as good as the others mainly because they are classics and this one is too new.

Great action sequences (opening, motorcycle chase, graveyard, and jungle chase all live up to the old fims) , a real fun 50s vibe (loved the Cold War and Greaser bits), and good sidekicks and villains (Splatko and Mac were great) made this an ACTUAL Indy film.

I loved the nuke scene (even though it was over the top), the ants were the best creep-out scene since the snakes in Raiders, and Aliens are no more ridiculous to me than the power of God.

The interaction of Indy and Marion was even almost as good as in Raiders.

Really, I doubt that anyone who doesn't like this film would even like the old films if they were to go back and watch them (in other words, THE HATERS AREN'T REAL INDY FANS AT ALL). Crystal Skull captures the tone and feel of the classics perfectly.

Still, could do without the monkey scene... but I could also do without the whole "Indy is Evil" scene in Temple of Doom as well.

Awsom

The movie really blew my mind away, I was humming the theme while walking out of the cinema :-). The movie was just as i remember Indy to be. i will answer something, why show people getting on an airplane when they are already aboard, it saves screen time. same with the water fall (crying eyes) Got it? and for the others you figure it out.

The movie really blew my mind away, I was humming the theme while walking out of the cinema :-). The movie was just as i remember Indy to be. i will answer something, why show people getting on an airplane when they are already aboard, it saves screen time. same with the water fall (crying eyes) Got it? and for the others you figure it out.

Awsom

The movie really blew my mind away, I was humming the theme while walking out of the cinema :-). The movie was just as i remember Indy to be. i will answer something, why show people getting on an airplane when they are already aboard, it saves screen time. same with the water fall (crying eyes) Got it? and for the others you figure it out.

The movie really blew my mind away, I was humming the theme while walking out of the cinema :-). The movie was just as i remember Indy to be. i will answer something, why show people getting on an airplane when they are already aboard, it saves screen time. same with the water fall (crying eyes) Got it? and for the others you figure it out.

Overall, I think the movie was weak. Not bad, but weak. It was peaks and valleys the entire time. Once it would pick up steam, it would diminish. A lot of people are saying Lucas and Spielberg have lost that touch. I just think they're different filmmakers now. Spielberg anyway. They've got nothing to worry about, there's no risk for them to make a new one because it's gonna be a sure thing. Spielberg directed Raiders after flopping big time with 1941, so he had to step up his game, grace

Overall, I think the movie was weak. Not bad, but weak. It was peaks and valleys the entire time. Once it would pick up steam, it would diminish. A lot of people are saying Lucas and Spielberg have lost that touch. I just think they're different filmmakers now. Spielberg anyway. They've got nothing to worry about, there's no risk for them to make a new one because it's gonna be a sure thing. Spielberg directed Raiders after flopping big time with 1941, so he had to step up his game, grace under pressure. I think that's the case with a lot of filmmakers now. I'm not saying he wasn't trying with this, but I think there just wasn't anything to worry about. Lucas seems like the only bitter one.
Though, I still can't imagine looking at the Shia/Tarzan scene in the editing bay and thinking, "Yeah, this works."

classic indy

just finish watching the movie and i thought it was very good not my favorite indy the last crusade is the best, but this is next. i loved harrison and karen being back together and throw in shia and you have a good company throughtout the movie.some of it was corny but good the action was classic indy but the scifi effect was not what i hope for but you have steven and george doing the movie i was hoping for anicent stuff not scifi stuff. but i don't care i love the movie want more and

just finish watching the movie and i thought it was very good not my favorite indy the last crusade is the best, but this is next. i loved harrison and karen being back together and throw in shia and you have a good company throughtout the movie.some of it was corny but good the action was classic indy but the scifi effect was not what i hope for but you have steven and george doing the movie i was hoping for anicent stuff not scifi stuff. but i don't care i love the movie want more and SPOILER ALERT
i think shia is passed the hat to him

Just got back from watchin the movie and overall I enjoyed it. It's definitely a fun movie and the acting was great across the board. However, I didn't like Ray Winstone's and John Hurt's characters. They just annoyed me and I thought to myself "man if they just wern't on the screen I would like it better" I don't get why everyone is hating on this and why is everyone outraged at the over the top scenes? Yes the Tarzan monkey scene was kinda weird and dumb. But every Indy movie has over the

Just got back from watchin the movie and overall I enjoyed it. It's definitely a fun movie and the acting was great across the board. However, I didn't like Ray Winstone's and John Hurt's characters. They just annoyed me and I thought to myself "man if they just wern't on the screen I would like it better" I don't get why everyone is hating on this and why is everyone outraged at the over the top scenes? Yes the Tarzan monkey scene was kinda weird and dumb. But every Indy movie has over the top, cheesy stuff. Remember in Temple of Doom when they fell out of a plane with an inflatable raft, landed on a snow mountain then fell like 1000 feet into a river without anyone getting hurt. That was ridiculous. I was expecting something like that to happen in this one too. It's Indy..not to be taken too seriously, just have fun with it!

good

I liked everything but the ending(when i say ending. I thought it was stupid. Overall the movie was fun and i enjoyed it. But in my opinion the ending sucked. I dont think shia should be the next indy but i do think they should make a sequel.

I liked everything but the ending(when i say ending. I thought it was stupid. Overall the movie was fun and i enjoyed it. But in my opinion the ending sucked. I dont think shia should be the next indy but i do think they should make a sequel.

Disappointment and Depression

I am just depressed after seeing this. I can't believe that's what they came up with after 19 freakin' years. I love Indian Jones. I have some great memories with Indy. This was just... wow... so disapponting.

It was way too unrealistic (even for Indy movies). Indy, jump in that "lead-lined" fridge so that the nuclear blast can send you flying through the air, bouncing thru the desert, landing you safely away from the blast radius. Yeah Mutt, swing thru the jungle with monkeys like

I am just depressed after seeing this. I can't believe that's what they came up with after 19 freakin' years. I love Indian Jones. I have some great memories with Indy. This was just... wow... so disapponting.

It was way too unrealistic (even for Indy movies). Indy, jump in that "lead-lined" fridge so that the nuclear blast can send you flying through the air, bouncing thru the desert, landing you safely away from the blast radius. Yeah Mutt, swing thru the jungle with monkeys like Tarzan to catch up to the action.. WTF? Go ahead Marion, drive that truck off the 200' cliff, land on the tree, and let it gently lower you down to the river... at this point I knew there was no hope. And I was right. It just plugged right along into the ridiculous ending. And I was ok with the Aliens. They can be scary if done right, but they were totally screwed over by that stupid CGI shot at the end. And then the UFO raising from under the ground... Cool, but again, in an Indiana Jones movie?? There was too much CGI, especially in the last half, and some of it didn't even look half-way real! This is Indiana Jones, it shouldn't have alot of CGI. But if it does, by God at least make it all look finished!!

It just didn't feel like an Idiana Jones movie. Where's the memorable villians? Where's the sense of danger and supsense (by the way I never once felt worried for any character's life). Where's the smart Indiana Jones? He's old now, you'd think he couldn't beat these young russians up and would have to outsmart them, but no! Just swing and punch until you finally knock them out. Sadly, I'm getting more depressed as I write this.

There were a few things I did like about it. My favorite part was the motorcycle/car chase thru the school campus. When Indy got pulled into the car off the bike, fights his way around, then crawls out the other window back onto the bike, I thought "Now THAT'S Indiana Jones." I also liked when he was stuck in the dry quicksand and he says "Say 'Grab the rope!'" These were really the only 2 parts that felt like classic Indy... besides that, I just didn't feel it. And I tried to like it, I really did. I wanted to like it. But I just couldn't do it. This DVD will have no place in my collection, much less sitting next to my Indiana Jones DVD trilogy.

I'm not bashing on anyone that liked it. And I'm not saying you're not an Indy fan if you liked it. I wish I would've liked it, but I didn't. Ok, I've said my peace. I'm going to watch Raiders now...

Where to begin?

I hate to say it....but I belong to the "Indy 4 sucked and was perhaps the biggest disappointment ever" team. I'm just baffle gasted at how terrible it turned out. I had heard mixed things, and before going in I knew of the monkey scene...which I convinced myself, I could let pass. I figured there's no way it could ever be as good as Raiders, but hopefully it will fall well into place with Last Crusade and Temple of Doom...both of which I loved. Hell, even if it were the worst of the

I hate to say it....but I belong to the "Indy 4 sucked and was perhaps the biggest disappointment ever" team. I'm just baffle gasted at how terrible it turned out. I had heard mixed things, and before going in I knew of the monkey scene...which I convinced myself, I could let pass. I figured there's no way it could ever be as good as Raiders, but hopefully it will fall well into place with Last Crusade and Temple of Doom...both of which I loved. Hell, even if it were the worst of the "quadrilogy" it could still stand the chance of kickin butt.

No...I was wrong. It was pretty god awful from the start.

What, the, hell.....is up with those opening credits? First, a shitty cgi groundhog for the kids. Someone put it best with "shrek lite". Then 50's bopper kids wanting to race and have a good time.

Just friggin play music that makes you sense impending doom and have the russians show up at the gates to shoot. Seriously.

Then, we get Indy getting rocket carted by.....some groundhogs.

Then, getting blasted by a nuclear bomb in a fridge, to escape fully unscathed...and greeted by a groundhog making a funny noise. *groan*

There was a guy earlier who posted that the only two good scenes were some of the stuff on the motorcycle chase (in one door..out the other) and the snake scene getting pulled out of the quicksand. Couldnt agree more. THOSE are Indy moments. Good stuff.

Where was the sense of peril? Where was the funny stuff that happened against bad guys. I dont want non-stop relationship banter between ma, pa, and kid.

I know this movie is PG-13 but they cant get away with ANYTHING nowadays. Raiders had face meltings, Temple had heart removings, and Last Crusade had "wrong cup" get old fast and die. This movie had Cate Blanchett given the stink eye by a crap cgi alien and turning into star dust. Lame. Hella lame.

Monkeys on [link] on vines dropping in on the truck and starting to help the "good guys" by layin a beat down on some russians? Unforgivable.

Giant tree chopping truck getting blown up, only to have 50 miles of "road" laid out ahead for the upcoming car chase? Weak sauce.

Driving off cliff onto tree which gently puts you into river? AWESOME!!!!!![link]

Wedding scene, lame.

Y'know, I cant even go on. I could justify this more but.......this movie just straight up sucked.

Meh ...

What a colossal disappointment! The first three Indys are near perfect and it's sad that this turgid mess of a blockbuster is now part of that series. I can't believe that a $185 million, Spielberg-directed, Lucas-produced movie would have such shoddy effects - the monkeys in Jumanji were more convincing. Was it me - or was Ford's acting in the opening scenes a bit stilted? He got better as the film went on though. I liked his interaction with Marion and Mutt though - The ending was atrocious,

What a colossal disappointment! The first three Indys are near perfect and it's sad that this turgid mess of a blockbuster is now part of that series. I can't believe that a $185 million, Spielberg-directed, Lucas-produced movie would have such shoddy effects - the monkeys in Jumanji were more convincing. Was it me - or was Ford's acting in the opening scenes a bit stilted? He got better as the film went on though. I liked his interaction with Marion and Mutt though - The ending was atrocious, when that pathetic CGI alien vaporised Cate Blanchett I was about ready to walk out - talk about a letdown! John Hurt was unbelievably annoying in his role, and why waste a great talent like Ray Winstone in such a pointless supporting role. I also thought the fight scenes looked unbelievably staged - Indy's fight with Dovchenko at the beginning and in the jungle during the ant attack scene looked really awkward. i agree with the other posters that the only two true Indy scenes were the motorcycle chase and the quicksand scene, they had the magic that the series is famous for - I never thought I'd say this, but this is possibly the worst film Spielberg has ever directed - I'm still trying to work out how it turned out so badly ...

Great film.....

Before I went and saw Indy IV at midnight on the 21st I re-watched all the other Indy films again, much like everyone else did I imagine.

As I watched all the movies I came to the realization that this new entry to the Indy franchise couldn't possibly top any of these films, and why should it!? I left my house that night with a group of friends and as we all sat in the theater waiting for the lights to go down we mulled over a lot of the negative stuff we had read on the net.

The

Before I went and saw Indy IV at midnight on the 21st I re-watched all the other Indy films again, much like everyone else did I imagine.

As I watched all the movies I came to the realization that this new entry to the Indy franchise couldn't possibly top any of these films, and why should it!? I left my house that night with a group of friends and as we all sat in the theater waiting for the lights to go down we mulled over a lot of the negative stuff we had read on the net.

The conclusion we all came to was, we weren't going to judge Indy IV on the basis of the other films, but merely as an action/adventure film made for two very different audiences. Where the other Indy films were made to feel well-paced and intelligent, this one was almost quite the opposite.

This films history segments weren't as heavy, and the pacing of this film was practically nonstop. The only reason I can find is that Spielberg/Lucas made a film that has to cater to 2 audiences now; the adults who grew up with Indy, and the young people who are now accustomed to CGI laden Superhero extravaganzas.

In that sense, they pulled it off and made a very kinetic Indy film. This is where the film begins to feel foreign and at times nothing like the previous installments, but minor gripes aside this movie rightfully earns its place next to the other installments. Indiana Jones is the American James Bond, each one of his adventures is an isolated experience that should not be compared to the last, in my honest opinion.

Yes, certain themes and aspects from the other movies should carry over, and they did in Crystal Skull, but that doesn't mean this fourth film had to be exactly like the other flicks. If anything, besides the gnarly SciFi route they took this time around, the rest of the movie was pretty formulaic and matched up perfectly with the other movies. You had bugs, a chase scene, a few climatic fight sequences and the inevitable self-destruction of the main villain.....IT WAS ALL THERE!

Any way you cut it, this film is either going to turn off a lot of old fans, or really please a bunch of people. I'm only 22, I don't proclaim to be a film connoisseur, but I did grow up watching all the Indy films on VHS and they definitely earned a spot in my heart.

Kingdom of The Crystal Skull may not be better then any of the other films, but it for damn sure earns its spot next to them. Completely unnecessary film....possibly, but that doesn't mean it wasn't one hell of a ride.

Thank you JOHN B! Great Film!

People really have to stop hating! You can't compare this to the Indy adventures of old. As said before, minor gripes aside (that I would have had with any movie like this - what's with the groundhogs?), it was a great and enjoyable flick. Not the best Indy for sure, but almost 20 years after the last adventure I don't expect it to be in the same realm. That said, it stands on it's own as a great adventure flick which should please fans and newcomers alike.

Of course, everyone's

People really have to stop hating! You can't compare this to the Indy adventures of old. As said before, minor gripes aside (that I would have had with any movie like this - what's with the groundhogs?), it was a great and enjoyable flick. Not the best Indy for sure, but almost 20 years after the last adventure I don't expect it to be in the same realm. That said, it stands on it's own as a great adventure flick which should please fans and newcomers alike.

Of course, everyone's entitled to their opinion... but I thought it was great. Just nix the stupid Tarzan scene - or at least let Indy reference Tarzan as a joke. But really, how many people just know how to swing on vines? He looked like he knew exactly how to do it and did it like a pro. I'm pretty sure a greaser from the city knows how to swing on vines like an ape. Yep.

What it is...

IT never ceases to amaze me the quantity of folks who watch a movie for what it ISN'T, rather than watching it for what is IS. I am 38 years old and had the distinct pleasure of watching each INDY film when they were released in theaters. These films were fun, exciting, and at times creepy, but overall, were great movies where the suspension of disbelief was expected because of the nature of the genre. Cliffhangers anyone?
I mean, how could you expect to take movie like this seriously, or

IT never ceases to amaze me the quantity of folks who watch a movie for what it ISN'T, rather than watching it for what is IS. I am 38 years old and had the distinct pleasure of watching each INDY film when they were released in theaters. These films were fun, exciting, and at times creepy, but overall, were great movies where the suspension of disbelief was expected because of the nature of the genre. Cliffhangers anyone?
I mean, how could you expect to take movie like this seriously, or even look for something remotely realistic in it?

Fast forward to 2008: INDY 4 was fantastic! What's not to love? There were outrageous escapes, nail-biting chase scenes, crazy, off-the-wall insects, aliens, great jokes, a nuclear bomb - holy crud! The only thing missing was chemical warfare, but this movie was set in 1957, not 1987. I also loved the way Indy's hat was treated almost like a character in itself, as if that was where his luck came from.

It's my opinion that if you go to see a movie of this type and expect it to be intelligent, well-paced, REALISTIC, with or without CGI, and the like, you've probably lost what makes people go to the movies in the first place - a genuine desire to have some fun and forget about life for a while.

Go watch INDY 4 for what it is, not for what it isn't. I had a great time, my 8 year old son had a great time, the entire audience had a great time...and when Shia picked up Indy's hat and tried to put it on during the final scene, I almost passed out with excitement, because I can already smell a sequel coming!

Relax People

I think everyone needs to quit bellyachin and just relax when it comes to Indy 4. Yes, there were some plot issues that I disagreed with, but overall, it was one hell of a flick. The old magic was there in abundance, with cliffhangers and chases just like in the old days. For the most part, it was an old-fashioned movie experience, the kind you don't really see anymore. Yes, there were ILM fingerprints all over it, but the majority of it looked like the other three films. And it felt like the

I think everyone needs to quit bellyachin and just relax when it comes to Indy 4. Yes, there were some plot issues that I disagreed with, but overall, it was one hell of a flick. The old magic was there in abundance, with cliffhangers and chases just like in the old days. For the most part, it was an old-fashioned movie experience, the kind you don't really see anymore. Yes, there were ILM fingerprints all over it, but the majority of it looked like the other three films. And it felt like the other three films. All around, it was a fun-filled popcorn flick with everything you expect from Indiana Jones.

THUMBS DOWN

Didn't like it. The only things that I liked were the sly references to Brody and Henry Sr. The painting on the wall, the pictures on the desk and the statue in the park. The use of shadows was a throw back to all of the other films. Shia did a good a job...not a great job. Marion was a waste of time, Mac was out of place and Ox was a character that I could've done without.

One of the biggest plot points I didn't like, and don't see anyone else talking about ( I didn't read all of the

Didn't like it. The only things that I liked were the sly references to Brody and Henry Sr. The painting on the wall, the pictures on the desk and the statue in the park. The use of shadows was a throw back to all of the other films. Shia did a good a job...not a great job. Marion was a waste of time, Mac was out of place and Ox was a character that I could've done without.

One of the biggest plot points I didn't like, and don't see anyone else talking about ( I didn't read all of the posts), was that they made Indy some kind of international spy for the last 20 years. Running around the globe working with the CIA and MI6 to combat the Russians. Give me a break.

Like I told my Dad over the phone after I saw it..."It makes Temple of Doom look like Citizen Kane."

To paraphrase what someone else said in another post, "George Lucas rapes another childhood memory."

However, I do feel for those who like them movie. I for one LOVE The Last Crusade, and it kills me to see people bash it as one of the worst.

fun times. cool adventure.

First, my childhood has remained a virgin. Second the film was fun the action old school. A little bit too cgied at times. But still I enjoyed it. Hoping there will be a few more films too. Go Indy Go!

First, my childhood has remained a virgin. Second the film was fun the action old school. A little bit too cgied at times. But still I enjoyed it. Hoping there will be a few more films too. Go Indy Go!

Thrill Ride

It was no "Raiders of the Lost Ark," but neither were the two previous sequels. I was entertained as was the rest of the audience (based on the applause). It was a fun roller coaster ride and that is exactly what I was hoping for...not Shakespeare.

It was no "Raiders of the Lost Ark," but neither were the two previous sequels. I was entertained as was the rest of the audience (based on the applause). It was a fun roller coaster ride and that is exactly what I was hoping for...not Shakespeare.

Worst Movie Ever?

How can people say this is the "worst movie ever?" Really? So Meet the Spartans and Epic Movie are better movies than this movie? Since this movie is the "worst EVER"? I can understand people being disappointed but it shouldn't be considered bad let alone the "worst movie EVER."

How can people say this is the "worst movie ever?" Really? So Meet the Spartans and Epic Movie are better movies than this movie? Since this movie is the "worst EVER"? I can understand people being disappointed but it shouldn't be considered bad let alone the "worst movie EVER."

Good

First of all, we shouldn't have expected this to oust the originals. While it wasn't great, it was a purely entertaining ride, and at times even had that Indy feel. Shia didn't dissapoint, and Harrison Ford was the man as always. While i didnt really like the alien thing very much, or some of the cgi effects, the rest of the movie made up for it.

While Crystal Skull wasnt as good as many people hoped, including myself, it must be looked at realistically. It is far better than tons of

First of all, we shouldn't have expected this to oust the originals. While it wasn't great, it was a purely entertaining ride, and at times even had that Indy feel. Shia didn't dissapoint, and Harrison Ford was the man as always. While i didnt really like the alien thing very much, or some of the cgi effects, the rest of the movie made up for it.

While Crystal Skull wasnt as good as many people hoped, including myself, it must be looked at realistically. It is far better than tons of shitty movies released nowadays, and it really was great seein Indy back on the big screen

GOOD STUFF

I don't get how some can just condemn this movie just like that. Albeit, yes, the monkey vine swinging scene was meh, and the final 1/4th gets kinda hectic and kinda crazy. But everything else was great! Seeing Ford back as Indy once again on the big screen was fantastic, and was as good as ever as Indy. Shia held his own nicely in the movie. Blanchett was good and a bit odd as Spalko. And seeing Marion back was great too.

While it is different than other Indy movies, I don't take it as a

I don't get how some can just condemn this movie just like that. Albeit, yes, the monkey vine swinging scene was meh, and the final 1/4th gets kinda hectic and kinda crazy. But everything else was great! Seeing Ford back as Indy once again on the big screen was fantastic, and was as good as ever as Indy. Shia held his own nicely in the movie. Blanchett was good and a bit odd as Spalko. And seeing Marion back was great too.

While it is different than other Indy movies, I don't take it as a bad thing. They say the same thing as Temple of Doom, and I loved Temple of Doom, it's my 2nd fav Indy after Raiders. Maybe it's just the types of Indy movies. What Raiders is to Last Crusade, Temple of Doom is to Crystal Skull. And yet, I love them all.

for OkCracker

your telling me you dont buy Indy's fill in story. Joe DiMaggio was pulled into the war, lots of people were pulled into the war. Read "The Archaeologist was Spy", not so unbelievable. It was during the World War's that our gov. starting using Scholars, professor, and Linguists with distinct knowledge of foreign countries as spies. Thats my story. Movie was alot of fun by the way!

your telling me you dont buy Indy's fill in story. Joe DiMaggio was pulled into the war, lots of people were pulled into the war. Read "The Archaeologist was Spy", not so unbelievable. It was during the World War's that our gov. starting using Scholars, professor, and Linguists with distinct knowledge of foreign countries as spies. Thats my story. Movie was alot of fun by the way!

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU GUYS?!

ARE YOU FUCKIN' SERIOUS?! "This wasn't a BAD movie."... "It stands well with the others."... "This was and felt like an Indiana Jones movie." ? ..... WHAT?!?!?! lol Like what FUCKIN' movie were YOU guys watching?! Seriously! Because I want to watch whatever exclusive version of Indy IV you saw... So I'm assuming YOU thought Phantom Menace just KICKED ASS and ROCKED!!! Right?! PLEASE!!! Give me a fuckin' break! If you thought this movie had that ESSENCE of Indiana Jones you are SERIOUSLY,

ARE YOU FUCKIN' SERIOUS?! "This wasn't a BAD movie."... "It stands well with the others."... "This was and felt like an Indiana Jones movie." ? ..... WHAT?!?!?! lol Like what FUCKIN' movie were YOU guys watching?! Seriously! Because I want to watch whatever exclusive version of Indy IV you saw... So I'm assuming YOU thought Phantom Menace just KICKED ASS and ROCKED!!! Right?! PLEASE!!! Give me a fuckin' break! If you thought this movie had that ESSENCE of Indiana Jones you are SERIOUSLY, TERRIBLY mistaken! AN INDY FILM WOULD NOT HAVE (I REPEAT WOULD NOT HAVE) LITTLE FUCKIN' CADDYSHACK GOPHERS RUNNING AROUND! OR A WHOLE 3 SECONDS OF A MAIN CHARACTER SWINGIN ON VINES WITH A BUNCH OF MONKEYS LIKE A SCENE OUT OF THE JUNGLE BOOK OR SOMETHING!!! You know I could forgive the wedding, the atomic blast, the "Indy being a spy" thing, the crappy CGI... AT TIMES!!! and even the whole little green men from mars plot device but don't fuckin' insult my intelligence with shit like vine swinging and little furry gophers making noises and Mutt combing his hair every couple seconds even when he is in the deepest of peril! And Ox just saying like 3 words OVER AND OVER AGAIN throughout the whole movie. And wasn't Indy supposed to be hypnotized or something?! He was like totally normal and nobody made em' snap out of it with a torch... "I love you Indy." Short Round style.

CASE IN POINT:
vdtdcut5145 on May 25 2008, 6:13:34 PM writes:
"What Raiders is to Last Crusade, Temple of Doom is to Crystal Skull. And yet, I love them all."

WHAT?!?!?! LMAO

OKCracker on May 25 2008, 12:03:18 PM writes:
"Like I told my Dad over the phone after I saw it..."It makes Temple of Doom look like Citizen Kane." "

Dude... KUDOS I couldn't have said it better myself! I don't think ANYONE could have!

This movie cannot even stand close to being "as bad" as any other Indy movie.

P.S. I am one of the rare chosen few who thought Temple kicked ass!!! ...

my two cents

Personally, I love all the original films just about equally. Raiders has the advantage of being the very first, and therefore the freshest because it was a brand new idea.

Now I gotta say, my meter of expectations was completely fried between the professionals on metacritic and all my fellow fanboys and schmoes here on joblo.

I didn't want to know so many spoilers, but like many of you, I'm a compulsive net surfer who cant help but read every tidbit I come across.
By the time I went to

Personally, I love all the original films just about equally. Raiders has the advantage of being the very first, and therefore the freshest because it was a brand new idea.

Now I gotta say, my meter of expectations was completely fried between the professionals on metacritic and all my fellow fanboys and schmoes here on joblo.

I didn't want to know so many spoilers, but like many of you, I'm a compulsive net surfer who cant help but read every tidbit I come across.
By the time I went to see the movie on sat afternoon, I already knew all the major stuff but I actually think that helped.

No, this movie was not the Indiana Jones I loved and remembered but I enjoyed it just the same. Yes there were a few over-the-top scenes(Indy in the fridge, the jeep in the tree), but overall I enjoyed the well suited and classic Indy elements which were fully in tact (Indy's escape from the warehouse, Indy and Mutt's cave diving). I think I'll have to see it more then once to make up my mind but overall I could deal with the cheese because enough of the movie was really good. I wasn't thrilled to see a movie so relaint on cgi, but I knew what to be prepared for thanks to all you schmoes.

I think the worst possibility is that they make another one. Harrison playing this rols at his age is a stretch to begin with. I certainly do not want to see,"Old Ass Indy VI", "Adventures of Indy jr", Indy played by another actor like James Bond, or an Indy directed by someone other then Spielberg. Unfortunatley, right now all of those are very strong possibilities.

I think people who say "its not suppose to be better then the originals" are naive.

Why have a sequel then?..Why continue the story if its not gonna be better? why bother really?.. You have a sequel to continue a great story and to make it better. Not make it worse.

Your suppose to compare any movie to its predecessors. Thats like having a shitty Guinness and saying, "oh its alright, because my last glass about an hour ago was better- i'm not gonna compare it; ill just drink this shitty

I think people who say "its not suppose to be better then the originals" are naive.

Why have a sequel then?..Why continue the story if its not gonna be better? why bother really?.. You have a sequel to continue a great story and to make it better. Not make it worse.

Your suppose to compare any movie to its predecessors. Thats like having a shitty Guinness and saying, "oh its alright, because my last glass about an hour ago was better- i'm not gonna compare it; ill just drink this shitty beer and pretend its the first one I drank today"

Indy 4 ? Was O.k Not great NOT speilberg

I went to see the movie. the start of it indys voice was a bit off. I dont know could have just been me hearing it. the bit with the fridge ? sorry but how was that part of he story. it was a good film. but you could feel by watchin it compared too the others which I watched up until this. that there was something off. Im thinkin the problem. was the script and that darabonts was a better script I mean shawshank and green mile where amazing can you imagine our hearts if we watched a film with

I went to see the movie. the start of it indys voice was a bit off. I dont know could have just been me hearing it. the bit with the fridge ? sorry but how was that part of he story. it was a good film. but you could feel by watchin it compared too the others which I watched up until this. that there was something off. Im thinkin the problem. was the script and that darabonts was a better script I mean shawshank and green mile where amazing can you imagine our hearts if we watched a film with him doin the script just like mile and andy durene we would have something left in my hearts forever that we can always remember. as for indy 5. let darabot do it please please please do the script. the kid is not rip enough to to take over yet I thinl.

Both The Years AND Mileage Have Been Kind To Indiana Jones

"Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" is a fun, energetic popcorn film the whole family can enjoy. While lacking the edge-of-your-seat action scenes found in the previous installments, and relying far too heavily on CGI (Shame on Mr. Spielberg for not staying true to the more believable and entertaining practical effects used to create the action of the first 3 films), the entire production crew succeeded in returning the famed, swashbuckling archeologist to the silver screen.

"Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" is a fun, energetic popcorn film the whole family can enjoy. While lacking the edge-of-your-seat action scenes found in the previous installments, and relying far too heavily on CGI (Shame on Mr. Spielberg for not staying true to the more believable and entertaining practical effects used to create the action of the first 3 films), the entire production crew succeeded in returning the famed, swashbuckling archeologist to the silver screen. Harrison Ford delivers on all levels, and while much has been made about his age, I could not tell any difference in the character when things got physical. In fact, from what Ford gave on screen, I think he easily has a few more 'Indy' installments left in him. This point cannot be stressed enough- Harrison Ford looked, sounded, and moved like the Indiana Jones everyone remembers from the 80’s. Shia LaBeouf and Karen Allen also entertain in the film, though it is clear Indy, not Mutt, should be center-stage should an 'Indiana Jones V' come to pass. Many hard-core Indy fans (of which I consider myself one of the biggest) will undoubtedly compare this film to its predecessors, and in doing so, find it sorely lacking in tone, dialogue, and cinematography. But, to the casual Indy fan and average movie-goer, KOTCS gets the job done and even stands tall among the myriad of stand-ins that have crashed into theaters since the man with the hat took audiences on his 'Last Crusade' in 1989. Nice to see you again, Indiana, and I hope you take us on a fifth adventure soon!

Terrible

I agree with everyone here who thought this movie was terrible. I wanted to get up and leave but felt compelled to sit through it just to see how things worked out.
In the previous films Indy did things because he really had no choice and they had a way of working out for him. In this movie it felt like everything would work out so there was no fear about anything, fight this guy, jump onto that car, etc, so it felt so silly when he's telling other characters to "not do that again" like the

I agree with everyone here who thought this movie was terrible. I wanted to get up and leave but felt compelled to sit through it just to see how things worked out.
In the previous films Indy did things because he really had no choice and they had a way of working out for him. In this movie it felt like everything would work out so there was no fear about anything, fight this guy, jump onto that car, etc, so it felt so silly when he's telling other characters to "not do that again" like the stupid waterfall scene.
Scene after scene were just ridiculous and this started right from the beginning. It wasn't just the monkeys, or the gophers, or car on the tree, the swinging on the vines, it was everything, from the opening motorbike scene which Indy looked like a stuntman to every other scene.
Nothing even felt real in this movie. In the others you always felt they were in a real setting be it a desert, cave or whatever. In this one, none of it felt real. You knew they weren't in South America, you knew they weren't in a jungle. It felt like an amusement park ride and a poor one at that.
Bringing back the old love interest was a bad idea as well like how Lucas was trying to connect the earlier Star Wars prequels. She was just too old looking now. No offense.

Terrible

NOT THAT BAD

I had long been suspicious back when they were just in the talking stages of an Indy 4. Unlike Star Wars, Indiana Jones never had an epic continuation or serial story (although it was inspired in part by old serials). However, once the trailers went up I started to get juiced about this thing. I don't think I have a more favorite hero in all of movie history than that man, as played by Harrison Ford.

I heard some bad word when it first opened this weekend, before going in, so my

I had long been suspicious back when they were just in the talking stages of an Indy 4. Unlike Star Wars, Indiana Jones never had an epic continuation or serial story (although it was inspired in part by old serials). However, once the trailers went up I started to get juiced about this thing. I don't think I have a more favorite hero in all of movie history than that man, as played by Harrison Ford.

I heard some bad word when it first opened this weekend, before going in, so my expectations, though they had grown quite high, had already shifted down a bit.

I was pleased to find that the negative reviews were basically a bunch of people expecting this thing to reinvent the wheel when all it was was a good time.

That's not to say it was as good as its predecessors. More like a reunion movie made just for the hell of it. Which is exactly what it was gonna be anyway.

We get Indiana back, this time as an old man, which is appropriate. Brody and Henry Sr. are dead, and the Soviets want something hidden in the same top-secret warehouse as the Ark of the Covenant.

The best scenes are the ones that refer to the past. Henry Jr. reminiscing with Jim Broadbent as the new Dean about the passing of his friends. His reunion with Marion Ravenwood, etc. The first half is also superior, with him jumping inside a refrigerator at a test sight for a nuclear bomb.

The cast seemed for the most part very capable. I kept wanting Ray Winstone to be like a Sallah or Brody, but he turned out to be like Alfred Molina in the first one, if Molina played a Cockney thug. That's not a bad thing except the script has the man bouncing back and forth in allegiances so much it gets a little tiresome. John Hurt is always fun to watch, even as goofy as he is here. Again, it is great Karen Allen returned as Indy's true love. And Shia LaBeouf is essentially Sallah-meets-Short Round as his illegitimate son.

The action was sub-par though. Indiana Jones is supposed to be able to kick some serious ass, and at least he tries. But most of the Russians end up getting killed accidentally. He under-uses his whip and his pistol. I guess after you get old you stop trying to be the hero all the time, but with the exception of the hat thing, there was much to be desired. Most of the action scenes are actually faintly reminiscent of other, better-staged action sequences from the original three, and the bad guy here (Cate Blanchett) seems to die exactly the same way as Rene Belloch did in Raiders. Also one scene with swarming ants reminded me of, actually, the "Mummy" series, although admittedly, Spielberg does it better. The film is ultimately a lot campier than its predecessors, because before even if what happened was outlandish, it wasn't usually quite so cartoonish. In the long run though, it's okay. And they did a nice touch with the snake, too.