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Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Honey these men are NOT STRAIGHT.Please get rid of the notion that a gay man can seduce a straight man. I do not care how much pussy one man can get,but the moment he lets another man touch him in any sexual way he is no longer straight, but GAY. And no longer into women because women are not into him once he do the deed.They are GAY.

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Originally Posted by Medusa

Honey these men are NOT STRAIGHT.Please get rid of the notion that a gay man can seduce a straight man. I do not care how much pussy one man can get,but the moment he lets another man touch him in any sexual way he is no longer straight, but GAY. And no longer into women because women are not into him once he do the deed.They are GAY.

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Originally Posted by Medusa

Honey these men are NOT STRAIGHT.Please get rid of the notion that a gay man can seduce a straight man. I do not care how much pussy one man can get,but the moment he lets another man touch him in any sexual way he is no longer straight, but GAY. And no longer into women because women are not into him once he do the deed.They are GAY.

That's not only false but ridiculous. That's like saying I'm automatically straight if I get drunk and kiss a girl. Nice try though.

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Originally Posted by innocentbychoice

That's not only false but ridiculous. That's like saying I'm automatically straight if I get drunk and kiss a girl. Nice try though.

No darling.You are gay for life.You can never be straight, so that theory is redundant. I however believe, that no 100% straight man hat loves pussy will not fuck another man,EVER.The guys you speak of or either curious,getting tired of getting pussy,because deep down inside they are really gay,or just a latent homosexual.Why does it piss you off that I am merely saying what these guys truly are?They are GAY,just like you, except they lie about it.

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

A lot of those guys in the vids are straight, or at least not open about being bi cur. They don't look at the guy blowing them, they're awkward, they're not talkative, most seem to be looking at what I'm assuming to be straight porn. One or two are clearly more comfortable with things. The guys in the pics, def not straight.

As far as my own experience with straight guys, there's a lot of them out there looking for cock, married ones in particular.

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Medusa:
You seem to have an either/or mentality about sexuality. That may be your opinion, but it's only that: an opinion. There are many guys, who, now that the atmosphere - and acceptance - of men being with men is no longer cause for being burned at the stake, allow themselves to be curious about what it would be like.
In psychology, there's a saying: once, coincidence. Twice, maybe. Three times: a definite character trait.
I don't know what city you live in, but I'm from San Francisco. I've known "straight" guys who go into bathhouses to get sucked off by a guy, because, they say, "guys do it better." But that's all they do. COULD they be gay? Sure, they could be gay, but that's about as absolute as saying that a man who was unfaithful once in a marriage will absolutely be unfaithful again. Your argument allows no room for enlightenment or growth. And it does not indicate an open mind, either. Sexuality is not what it was in say, 1960 (when I was around and in my teens). I've seen the world change in ways I couldn't imagine back then (like having a Black president: never, EVER would have occurred to me that in my lifetime that would happen [I thought around 2040 or so, the US would change, mainly due to the minority population being greater in number than the White population]).
Men in the old days wouldn't even allow themselves to be curious about being with a guy. Now, with all the media stuff (John Trovolta's gay, Tom Cruise is gay, GOD is gay), some men just think, "Wow, if those dudes can be with other dudes and still hang with women , maybe I should give it a try. Hey, I only live once." (and I'm not commenting on whether or not anyone is gay or straight based on what the media says: I KNOW Hollywood, so I don't need the media to tell me what's going on.)

Passing off an opinion as an absolute is what creates stereotypes. As a Black man, I know better than most, esPECIALLY in the United States, what stereotypes lead to: ignorance and hatred. Try expanding your consciousness a bit here. Men are sexual, and many of their wives won't go down on them, and by now, nearly every man has heard, at one time or another, "guys give better head." That in itself is enough to make some of them want to know what it's like to have an orgasm that will blow their mind (no pun intended) and that is frequently enough to push them into trying it out. It's no different than trying out cocaine or smoking grass or drinking. Maybe it's just fun, but maybe it turns into an addiction.Or maybe it leads them to realize, "Fuck, I AM gay." (Which is a good thing, because to come out at 50 or 60 is really, really tough: you're no longer some hot young thing with a wide pool of men to choose from. And you no longer have the chance to sample guys like a smorgasbord. So, you get limited experience and limited insights because you came to the "game" in the bottom of the 9th inning. You missed your life and you're just finding it now.)
I don't see what you see. At All. I see curiosity, fear, interest, desire. That's not enough to make a man gay.

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Originally Posted by mcbrion

Medusa:You seem to have an either/or mentality about sexuality. That may be your opinion, but it's only that: an opinion. There are many guys, who, now that the atmosphere - and acceptance - of men being with men is no longer cause for being burned at the stake, allow themselves to be curious about what it would be like.
In psychology, there's a saying: once, coincidence. Twice, maybe. Three times: a definite character trait.
I don't know what city you live in, but I'm from San Francisco. I've known "straight" guys who go into bathhouses to get sucked off by a guy, because, they say, "guys do it better." But that's all they do. COULD they be gay? Sure, they could be gay, but that's about as absolute as saying that a man who was unfaithful once in a marriage will absolutely be unfaithful again. Your argument allows no room for enlightenment or growth. And it does not indicate an open mind, either. Sexuality is not what it was in say, 1960 (when I was around and in my teens). I've seen the world change in ways I couldn't imagine back then (like having a Black president: never, EVER would have occurred to me that in my lifetime that would happen [I thought around 2040 or so, the US would change, mainly due to the minority population being greater in number than the White population]).
Men in the old days wouldn't even allow themselves to be curious about being with a guy. Now, with all the media stuff (John Trovolta's gay, Tom Cruise is gay, GOD is gay), some men just think, "Wow, if those dudes can be with other dudes and still hang with women , maybe I should give it a try. Hey, I only live once." (and I'm not commenting on whether or not anyone is gay or straight based on what the media says: I KNOW Hollywood, so I don't need the media to tell me what's going on.)

Passing off an opinion as an absolute is what creates stereotypes. As a Black man, I know better than most, esPECIALLY in the United States, what stereotypes lead to: ignorance and hatred. Try expanding your consciousness a bit here. Men are sexual, and many of their wives won't go down on them, and by now, nearly every man has heard, at one time or another, "guys give better head." That in itself is enough to make some of them want to know what it's like to have an orgasm that will blow their mind (no pun intended) and that is frequently enough to push them into trying it out. It's no different than trying out cocaine or smoking grass or drinking. Maybe it's just fun, but maybe it turns into an addiction.Or maybe it leads them to realize, "Fuck, I AM gay." (Which is a good thing, because to come out at 50 or 60 is really, really tough: you're no longer some hot young thing with a wide pool of men to choose from. And you no longer have the chance to sample guys like a smorgasbord. So, you get limited experience and limited insights because you came to the "game" in the bottom of the 9th inning. You missed your life and you're just finding it now.)
I don't see what you see. At All. I see curiosity, fear, interest, desire. That's not enough to make a man gay.

Look there is nothing wrong with being GAY,so please do not make me out to be a bigot. All I am saying is there is no such thing as a straight man who fucks other men, the same can be said with Gay men fucking women.If a man like another man sexual, he is GAY. There is nothing wrong with being gay,but I believe you cannot say one thing, and do the other.I do have a problem with gay men, who sleep with men but yet,want to hide behind a woman.And I personally feel like if a man wants to get head from another man because men know how to suck better,then he needs to be with a man permanently,why go bother a woman? I hate to sound so bigoted or narrow minded,but why people try to complicate sexuality when it comes to men,but in reality very simple, is fucking baffling. BTW if that you in your avatar you are a very good looking man.

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

And btw, If you know Hollywood like you say you do. What are all the good gossip floating around? Whose secretly gay, and whose not? Whose is really running Hollywood?Do most celebs practice satanism like some of the conspiracy theorist folks,say they do? Who is a secret racist? Is the media out to get black women? I have many more questions,but I think these few questions will do for now.

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Medusa et al,

Why is it so important for the labels to read Straight...or Gay?
Have we all become so 'anal' that everything has to be just so
and no room for anything else?

Medusa, if I understand your point of view, you say sexuality
like religion, one is either a believer or an atheist. Agnostics
do not exist. Bi married says the glass is half full/ half empty
depending on the imbibers mood or thirst level at the time.

Mcb espouses an opinion that is closer to my experience and
thus my opinion. Right or wrong we're all entitled to our own
opinion and eligible to modify as experience dictates.

My preference in analogy is: Sexuality = Peppers

Both ends of the chart are total sexuality. Look at the variations.
One end total hetero, one end total homo. So many options here.
{For sake of simplicity, asexuality is not included in this analogy}

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Originally Posted by Medusa

No darling.You are gay for life.You can never be straight, so that theory is redundant. I however believe, that no 100% straight man hat loves pussy will not fuck another man,EVER.The guys you speak of or either curious,getting tired of getting pussy,because deep down inside they are really gay,or just a latent homosexual.Why does it piss you off that I am merely saying what these guys truly are?They are GAY,just like you, except they lie about it.

I'm not pissed off, your argument just doesn't make any sense. This answer isn't helping either.

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Originally Posted by innocentbychoice

I'm not pissed off, your argument just doesn't make any sense. This answer isn't helping either.

I am saying once a man fucks another he is gay for LIFE. Gayness always trumps straightness. Any man that willing sleeps with another man is GAY. POINT.BLANK.PERIOD. It will not matter how much pussy he gets afterwards, or how much he loves women, the simple fact remains he fucked another man.I mean you should be agreeing with me. You are the one that wants relationship with a man who allegedly 'thinks' he might like women.

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Originally Posted by innocentbychoice

I'm not pissed off, your argument just doesn't make any sense. This answer isn't helping either.

I am saying once a man fucks another he is gay for LIFE. Gayness always trumps straightness. Any man that willing sleeps with another man is GAY. POINT.BLANK.PERIOD. It will not matter how much pussy he gets afterwards, or how much he loves women, the simple fact remains he fucked another man.I mean you should be agreeing with me. You are the one that wants relationship with a man who allegedly 'thinks' he might like women.

It's like the "one drop rule" when it comes to race, although both cannot compare, but the "one drop rule" is a good example.I hope that helps

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Originally Posted by Medusa

I am saying once a man fucks another he is gay for LIFE. Gayness always trumps straightness. Any man that willing sleeps with another man is GAY. POINT.BLANK.PERIOD. It will not matter how much pussy he gets afterwards, or how much he loves women, the simple fact remains he fucked another man.I mean you should be agreeing with me. You are the one that wants relationship with a man who allegedly 'thinks' he might like women.

It's like the "one drop rule" when it comes to race, although both cannot compare, but the "one drop rule" is a good example.I hope that helps

Sure. They also say that if you sleep with a black person you turn black as well, regardless of your race. African American roots always trumps everything else.

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Originally Posted by innocentbychoice

You're trying so hard.

HEY, you are the one that started this mess, not me. I know what I said you know what I said. But let me be clear. Once a man who proclaims that he is straight fucks another man he is GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY.There is no turning back to women, it does not matter how many female partners he had, he is GAY. You try to bring in that race argument like it's valid when it's not. You cannot help the skin you are born in.But you can help the people you fuck. Stop trying to hold on too that 'straight' label for the men you fuck.

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Originally Posted by Medusa

HEY, you are the one that started this mess, not me. I know what I said you know what I said. But let me be clear. Once a man who proclaims that he is straight fucks another man he is GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY.There is no turning back to women, it does not matter how many female partners he had, he is GAY. You try to bring in that race argument like it's valid when it's not. You cannot help the skin you are born in.But you can help the people you fuck. Stop trying to hold on too that 'straight' label for the men you fuck.

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Originally Posted by innocentbychoice

It's not valid???? Reaaaaally?

Can you wake you one morning, and be a different race? Can you wake up one morning and choose not too fuck someone?Can you wake up one morning, and not showcase the mere fact that you are gay? People can see skin color,people cannot see sexuality or the fact that you are a gay men unless, you were a big sign ass that says "HEY I AM GAY."

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Originally Posted by Medusa

No darling.You are gay for life.You can never be straight, so that theory is redundant. I however believe, that no 100% straight man hat loves pussy will not fuck another man,EVER.The guys you speak of or either curious,getting tired of getting pussy,because deep down inside they are really gay,or just a latent homosexual.Why does it piss you off that I am merely saying what these guys truly are?They are GAY,just like you, except they lie about it.

You don't see how ridiculous that double standard is? Your whole logic stems from homophobia.

From what you say:

A gay man can have sex with a woman but he's still gay no matter what.

If a straight man has one gay experience with another man, he is gay for the rest of his life and there is no changing that?

You sound so fucking stupid. Did a husband or boyfriend leave you for a man or something? I've noticed this trend with lots of your posts and it's very irritating.

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

You don't see how ridiculous that double standard is? Your whole logic stems from homophobia.

From what you say:

A gay man can have sex with a woman but he's still gay no matter what.

If a straight man has one gay experience with another man, he is gay for the rest of his life and there is no changing that?

You sound so fucking stupid. Did a husband or boyfriend leave you for a man or something? I've noticed this trend with lots of your posts and it's very irritating.

Let's just say fuck it and change all the rules:

Everyone is either fat or skinny. No in between.

You are either black or white.

Short or tall.

Young or old.

Rich or poor.

You live in a very simple world.

Why do gay men always say that stupid shit? No, my boyfriend did not leave for another man, and I am not married yet. I am still 24, but don't you worry, that day will come, and you will have first row seats to my wedding. People on purpose choose to complicate things, when it comes to sexuality.Just fuck who you want.

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Sultan and Lefty....I applaud both of your replies! =D:

Duza.... What about the straight guy who might get raped in prison or anyplace and while being anally penetrated gets a hard cock because that can happen like it or not. He may even get a hard cock by forced oral against his will from a man. That guy may never have sex with a man again for the rest of his life. Does that make the guy gay? just saying.

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Originally Posted by Medusa

Why do gay men always say that stupid shit? No, my boyfriend did not leave for another man, and I am not married yet. .

Gee.. I wonder why.

If one person tells you that you're wrong, maybe it's them. If two people do, maybe it's a coincidence. When it turns into 6, 7, 9, 10, you've got a problem. Your perspective doesn't equal reality. If you want to remain ignorant, that's on you.

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Originally Posted by Sultan

Gee.. I wonder why.

If one person tells you that you're wrong, maybe it's them. If two people do, maybe it's a coincidence. When it turns into 6, 7, 9, 10, you've got a problem. Your perspective doesn't equal reality. If you want to remain ignorant, that's on you.

It's better to be ignorant than, delusional. If some of these gay guys, want to hang on to the fact that 'straight men' enjoys having sex with them that's fine.I just wanted help these men realize something,and I hope some of these will get out of the self hate they have for themselves, and others like them. But of course you guys will be bias, and think I am the one in the wrong.

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Originally Posted by Medusa

Can you wake you one morning, and be a different race? Can you wake up one morning and choose not too fuck someone?Can you wake up one morning, and not showcase the mere fact that you are gay? People can see skin color,people cannot see sexuality or the fact that you are a gay men unless, you were a big sign ass that says "HEY I AM GAY."

LOL you must be trolling us...you can't be for real. You didn't even realize that when I said that about black skin I was making fun of your stupid ass assumption about sexuality and everything you've posted here, I was making a ridiculous argument as a response to your nonsense. You are either a troll or you're extremely stupid and can't even understand sarcasm.

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Originally Posted by Sultan

Gee.. I wonder why.

If one person tells you that you're wrong, maybe it's them. If two people do, maybe it's a coincidence. When it turns into 6, 7, 9, 10, you've got a problem. Your perspective doesn't equal reality. If you want to remain ignorant, that's on you.

Sultan don't try to knock some sense on the senseless, it's a lost battle. Just make fun of them like I do .

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Originally Posted by innocentbychoice

LOL you must be trolling us...you can't be for real. You didn't even realize that when I said that about black skin I was making fun of your stupid ass assumption about sexuality and everything you've posted here, I was making a ridiculous argument as a response to your nonsense. You are either a troll or you're extremely stupid and can't even understand sarcasm.

LOL.honey I am not a troll. You just don't like the fact the guys you are having sex with are really actually GAY.

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Originally Posted by innocentbychoice

Sultan don't try to knock some sense on the senseless, it's a lost battle. Just make fun of them like I do .

OH wow, now you hurt my feelings.. Now I am sitting drying my poor little tears. Sorry,darling. Like that one poster said it's my opinion, not yours get over it. I mean it's logic. But hey, I understand if you want to be in a relationship with a 100% 'STRAIGHT MAN,' then by all means do it.

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Originally Posted by Bi Married Male

Sultan and Lefty....I applaud both of your replies! =D:

Duza.... What about the straight guy who might get raped in prison or anyplace and while being anally penetrated gets a hard cock because that can happen like it or not. He may even get a hard cock by forced oral against his will from a man. That guy may never have sex with a man again for the rest of his life. Does that make the guy gay? just saying.

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Originally Posted by Bi Married Male

I feel privledged...My question to Duza was ignored.

Why do you want to know so damn bad? And I think I answer your question already. I did not bring in rape at all. I simply mention those who willing, let another man touch him.stop trying to live to society's standards, and just be gay.Label yourself GAY, so that way, women will know not to fool with you.

Re: When straight guys let you do them ...(pics)

Originally Posted by Medusa

LOL.honey I am not a troll. You just don't like the fact the guys you are having sex with are really actually GAY.

Originally Posted by Medusa

OH wow, now you hurt my feelings.. Now I am sitting drying my poor little tears. Sorry,darling. Like that one poster said it's my opinion, not yours get over it. I mean it's logic. But hey, I understand if you want to be in a relationship with a 100% 'STRAIGHT MAN,' then by all means do it.

LOL you really are dumb. When did I say that I'm sleeping or in a relationship with a straight man? I'm just pointing out every flaw in your argument. Yes yours is just an opinion, a stupid one at best, and I'm giving you my opinion about your incoherent childish remarks. It has nothing to do with my personal life. Does it have to do with yours though? Cuz you seem so pressed about this whole subject .