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The so called pro was a joke and ruined more dogs than he ever trained. Kelly has trained some nice dogs and I would t hesitate to purchase a dog from him. Some of us would rather train our dogs than get wrapped up in spending entire weekends hurrying up to wait. MMT would be the last place on earth I would go for dog advise also.

Yes sir, that is why I asked for advice on here! Thanks to those you have replied and given their advice.

For years I have been told that an old rule of thumb for the pricing (or establishing the value) of a Derby dog has been $1,000. for each Derby point.

It takes 10 Derby points to get on the National Derby list. Are all those 10 pt. Derby dogs worth $10,000.? Some maybe, some maybe not. There are Derby dogs who do not make it through the Qual to become all-age contenders. It is a big leap from being a good Derby dog to being an all-age competitor.

The reverse is true. There are some dogs who are late bloomers. They may not have made the Derby list, but they matured later and obtained their FC and AFC titles.