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Re: New Dragonball Super Series

So, 17 committed suicide with his self-destruction bomb Gero put inside him to prevent Jiren from knocking everyone off the ring. The self-destruction bomb he had removed. Back in Z after the Cell arc. The one that Super itself revisited in the manga, recapping how he noticed how he feels lighter now with it gone.

My condolences to Toyotaro removing 17 from play when he gets to this point. Presuming his removal here will play into 18 demanding Goku to rez everyone once he wins.

Well, beyond the stand-out issue, I liked the little Jiren flashback, if it can really be trusted from a God of Destruction deliberately modeled after The Joker, but he doesn't have much reason to lie so sure, why not. Curious that the big guy's state of zen display thus-far has been tossed out for a literal raging fire. I could foresee that coming into play later on when Ultra Instinct Goku has to take him on, Jiren slipping further giving Goku the upper hand he needs.

Frieza continuing his surprise casting as the Krillin of this team. Would have thought that the Zenos would do something over his spout about ditching the rules and going to kill Jiren, considering their swift response to Frost, but they are kids and this is much more entertaining to them now.

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I'm still impressed with how much power Vegeta's gained especially plowing right through Toppo like he did. shattering Hakai energy is as much of a surprise as Goku going Ultra Instinct the first time. He's stepped up his game.

Re: New Dragonball Super Series

So, 17 committed suicide with his self-destruction bomb Gero put inside him to prevent Jiren from knocking everyone off the ring. The self-destruction bomb he had removed. Back in Z after the Cell arc. The one that Super itself revisited in the manga, recapping how he noticed how he feels lighter now with it gone.

My condolences to Toyotaro removing 17 from play when he gets to this point. Presuming his removal here will play into 18 demanding Goku to rez everyone once he wins.

Well, beyond the stand-out issue, I liked the little Jiren flashback, if it can really be trusted from a God of Destruction deliberately modeled after The Joker, but he doesn't have much reason to lie so sure, why not. Curious that the big guy's state of zen display thus-far has been tossed out for a literal raging fire. I could foresee that coming into play later on when Ultra Instinct Goku has to take him on, Jiren slipping further giving Goku the upper hand he needs.

Frieza continuing his surprise casting as the Krillin of this team. Would have thought that the Zenos would do something over his spout about ditching the rules and going to kill Jiren, considering their swift response to Frost, but they are kids and this is much more entertaining to them now.

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17 don't necessarily needs his Bomb for self-destruction, he could just have done something similar to Vegetas Final Explosion.

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In all likelihood, that's what they're going to say if needed to explain this scene in any further detail, but it completely negates the point of having the bomb to begin with, and it's a total misdirection because it was one of the few things we can say we know for certain about Android 17 and 18.

I've thought about it since Saturday, and we know for sure in Super they addressed that he had the bomb removed via Krillin's wish back when Cell was defeated. So perhaps in the time since we've not seen him, he had his own reasons to install a new one? This falls apart of course at the fact that for whatever reason he would consider suicide as a self-sacrifice, the bomb that would at least be a planet cracker, and he'd just be destroying the very thing he's trying to protect by accident. Also, what the hell kind of conflict would he be getting caught in outside the Z Warriors' radar that's above poachers that would demand reinstalling a bomb that was one of the handful of alterations they despised Gero for?

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The bomb was a self destruct device for Gero to activate if #17 and #18 turned against him, not something they were meant to use for themselves. #16 was fully under Gero's orders, being an actual robot and all, so the bomb was just one of his weapons. 17 and 18 were a threat to Gero, so the bomb wasn't something they were supposed to use.The scene didn't seem to even bring it up at all anyway. It's not something that seemed worth thinking too hard about IMO, it's just something he could do. I didn't feel it had to be connected to that particular bomb.

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It's unbelievable how much they FUCKED with one of the few best things of DBS. Goku with the "unperfected" UI would brings the memories from the classic DB from the Piccolo Jr arc.. Classic Goku black hair, without Super Saiyan thing, pure classic style, a good reference from the Mushin martial art[Mu no ken and all] and etc..

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Meh. They had their opportunity for silver hair back when Super Saiyan God was announced, seeing in appearance that's all this is, this just feels silly to alter the Ultra Instinct form even further and add it now. I'll ditto ShinZankuro here and vouch that it looked better with the base black hair too. Besides, why would it change hair color, it's not tied to Super Saiyan and others who tap into a similar power don't alter themselves? And yeah, I know the answer to that is "It's Dragon Ball after Z" and "Merchandising", but still.

Eh, I guess if Vegeta's got to change his hair to a deeper shade of blue, Goku's gotta do something. Oh well.