lithography decal

Hello
I want to know if there is a kind of ceramic offset lithography ink that can print ceramic decals by offset machine instead of current methods?
Now there is two methods that you can see below. http://en.wikipedia....i/Ceramic_decal
1-silk screen printing
2- lothography printing
but in my point of view in litho printing still there is no ink that can print directly like screen printing and now
with ceramic litho prints. instead of using ceramic inks. litho varnish is used for each colour. After passing through the litho press. the decal paper is dusted with pigment ...

can anyone give me some information in which a company had invented this ink before and if not can it be used in industry? or it is a Wild-goose chase and zero scoring effort and it is better i dont wast my time on this ?

Farzad,
If you're looking for commercial grade solutions to a manufacturing question, chances are you're barking up the wrong tree. A ceramic engineer might be the person to talk to, or someone with a materials science background with an emphasis in ceramics. Most of us here are potters who are not working on the scale or with the equipment you're talking about and can probably offer you information that is speculative and incomplete at best.

Farzad,If you're looking for commercial grade solutions to a manufacturing question, chances are you're barking up the wrong tree. A ceramic engineer might be the person to talk to, or someone with a materials science background with an emphasis in ceramics. Most of us here are potters who are not working on the scale or with the equipment you're talking about and can probably offer you information that is speculative and incomplete at best.

Good Luck,Michael

Thank you michael my problem is that i dont know any engineer or anybody that work in this field those who know about offset machine and printing media dont know about ceramic industry and those who know about ceramic dont know about offset printing.

Hello I want to know if there is a kind of ceramic offset lithography ink that can print ceramic decals by offset machine instead of current methods?

That is an interesting question. I would ask Atlas Ink in Dallas, Texas if they could make an offset ink that could print ceramic decals. Atlas is a very good ink company. We use that ink for the Paragon catalog and manuals.

My question is after you print 15,000 litho decals per hour then what-can you fire 15,000 decals per hour-lets say an 8 hour day with 120,000. decals.
What is the end use of decals to be fired on in mass amounts?
Mark

Hello I want to know if there is a kind of ceramic offset lithography ink that can print ceramic decals by offset machine instead of current methods?

That is an interesting question. I would ask Atlas Ink in Dallas, Texas if they could make an offset ink that could print ceramic decals. Atlas is a very good ink company. We use that ink for the Paragon catalog and manuals.

I wasn't clear. Sorry. I meant that if I were you, I would ask Atlas Ink. You can contact them on their website. They are very knowledgeable. They may have already produced ceramic decal ink or know if it is feasible. Silk screening can lay down a much thicker layer of ink than is possible with offset printing. Bumper stickers are generally printed by silk screen, because the thicker the layer of ink, the longer it tends to last in sunlight. A thick layer of silk screen ink would probably also fire better than a thin layer of offset ink.

My question is after you print 15,000 litho decals per hour then what-can you fire 15,000 decals per hour-lets say an 8 hour day with 120,000. decals.What is the end use of decals to be fired on in mass amounts?Mark

we will sale it to big ware factories ! No need to produce 15000 pcs decal papers ,with this method we can produce the same amount in 1 hour,while it takes 4 days with silk screen. this method increases the speed specially in mass production so can reduce the costs too.

I wasn't clear. Sorry. I meant that if I were you, I would ask Atlas Ink. You can contact them on their website. They are very knowledgeable. They may have already produced ceramic decal ink or know if it is feasible. Silk screening can lay down a much thicker layer of ink than is possible with offset printing. Bumper stickers are generally printed by silk screen, because the thicker the layer of ink, the longer it tends to last in sunlight. A thick layer of silk screen ink would probably also fire better than a thin layer of offset ink.