Q: It is reported that all necessary materials for the deployment of THAAD have been delivered to the golf course in Seongju region in the southeast of the ROK. The ROK military suggested that THAAD would be deployed soon to counter the threat posed by DPRK’s nuclear and missile programs. What’s China’s comment on this?

A: China has been consistent and clear in opposing THAAD. The deployment of THAAD by the US and the ROK in the ROK is not conducive to denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula nor peace and stability on the Peninsula. It seriously undermines the strategic and security interests of China and other countries in the region and breaks the strategic balance of the region.

It is obvious to all that since the US and the ROK decided to deploy THAAD, the situation on the Peninsula, instead of cooling down, has become more intense; the ROK, instead of becoming more secure, has been faced with greater threat and challenge.

We strongly urge the US and the ROK to put an end to relevant process of deployment. And I want to reiterate that China is prepared to take necessary measures to preserve its national security interests and regional strategic balance.

BRICS Special Envoys on Middle East expressed their concern about internal crises that have emerged in a number of states in the region in recent years. They firmly advocated that these crises should be resolved in accordance with the international law and UN Charter, without resorting to force or external interference and through establishing broad national dialogue with due respect for independence, territorial integrity and sovereignty of the countries of the region. The participants emphasized the legitimacy of the aspirations of the peoples of the region to enjoy full political and social freedoms and for respect to human rights.

They strongly condemned recent several attacks, against some BRICS countries, including that in the Russian Federation. BRICS members stand for consolidating international efforts to combat the global threat of terrorism. They stressed that counter-terrorism measures should be undertaken on the firm basis of international law under the aegis of the UN and its Security Council.

In the course of the meeting, the role of the UN Security Council as the international body bearing the primary responsibility for maintaining international peace and security was underlined. It was also stressed that military interventions that have not been authorized by the Security Council are incompatible with the UN Charter and unacceptable.

BRICS Special Envoys expressed their deep concern with regard to the continuing violence in Syria, deterioration of humanitarian situation and growing threat of international terrorism and extremism in that country.

The participants confirmed their strong support for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Syria and the need for a peaceful solution, led by the Syrians, to the conflict. They supported all efforts towards a political and diplomatic solution in Syria through talks based on Resolution 2254 of the United Nations Security Council. They welcomed the three rounds of talks held in Astana and the outcome of fifth round of talks in Geneva. They acknowledged that Astana talks paved the way for resumption of Geneva talks. They expressed resolve for renewed and committed efforts to find a political and diplomatic solution in Syria. In this regard, the efforts of the Special Envoy of the UN Secretary General Staffan de Mistura aimed at resumption of Geneva process were welcomed. The efforts of BRICS countries in providing humanitarian aid to Syria were welcomed. They called for continuing humanitarian assistance to Syria by BRICS countries and collaborating in the reconstruction of Syria.

While strongly condemning terrorism in all its forms and manifestations, they called upon all Syrians to join hands in the face of this dangerous threat and urged the international community to strictly abide by all the obligations pursuant to various relevant UNSC resolutions.

While strongly condemning the use of chemical weapons by anyone under any circumstances, they called upon the international community to remain united while addressing any use or threat of use of chemical weapons and stressed the importance of continued cooperation between OPCW Technical Secretariat, OPCW-UN Joint Investigative Mechanism with the Syrian authorities.

They expressed serious concern about the political and security situation and escalation of the armed conflict in Libya, highlighting its extremely negative consequences for the Middle East (West Asia) and North Africa and the Sahel region. It was noted that the military intervention into this country in 2011 led to the collapse of integrated state institutions, which in turn resulted in the rise of activities of terrorist and extremist groups.

They stressed their commitment to the unity, sovereignty, and territorial integrity of Libya. They expressed their support for the steps undertaken by Libyan authorities in combating the terrorist threats. They reaffirmed the need to overcome the dissensions between Libyan political forces and to achieve consensus in functioning of the Government by all stakeholders in pursuance of the Libya Political Agreement (LPA), In this context, they expressed their support for the efforts by the Special Representative of the UN Secretary General for Libya Martin Kobler, neighboring countries and by the African Union. The global efforts to defeat Islamic State (IS) in Sirte, Libya were welcomed.

They expressed concern over the continuing presence of terrorist formations including ISIS in other regions of the country and they supported the UN-sponsored international efforts aimed at inter-Libyan dialogue destined to achieve creation of unified authorities based on the recognition of interests of Libyan political forces, regions and tribal groups.

BRICS Special Envoys expressed their full respect for the independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity of Iraq. They supported the efforts by the Iraqi government to combat terrorism and restore control over the territories taken by the so called Islamic State of Iraq and Levant. They stressed their concern for the humanitarian impact of the ongoing military operation for the liberation of Mosul. The participants of the meeting expressed hope that all ethnic and confessional parties in Iraq enhance national reconciliation as the only way to overcome ongoing turmoil, bring long-awaited peace and economic recovery for the Iraqi people. In this regard they called on all parties to support all-inclusive national reconciliation process in Iraq taking into account the interests of all segments of the Iraqi society. They referred to the importance of an Iraqi-led national dialogue able to strengthen the country’s stability, territorial integrity and democratic institutions. They also urged the International community to provide continued assistance and humanitarian support for Iraqi refugees and internally displaced people.

They expressed their concern over the continuing armed conflict in the Yemen Republic which led to the killing of thousands of civilians, including women and children, and to the destruction of a significant part of vital civilian infrastructure, bringing the situation in Yemen to a humanitarian catastrophe. They called for urgent measures by the international community in order to ease social and economic situation in this country, unlimited access to humanitarian aid to all parts of the Yemen Republic.

In this regard the Special Envoys called for immediate ceasefire in Yemen, urging all parties to the conflict to resume the nation-wide dialogue in which representatives of Yemeni political forces and different groups of Yemeni population could participate in discussing the future of their country. The participants supported efforts taken by Mr. Ismail Ould Cheikh Ahmed in this regard.

BRICS members declared their readiness to provide relevant humanitarian aid and diplomatic assistance in resolving the situation in Yemen.

They were unanimous that the period of the fundamental transformations that is taking place in the Middle East (West Asia) and North African states should not be used as pretext to delaying resolution of long-standing conflicts, in particular the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. In this regard they confirmed their commitment to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting settlement of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict on the basis of the universally recognized international legal framework including respective UN Security Council resolutions, the Madrid principles and the Arab Peace Initiative.

They called for an early resumption of the Palestinian-Israeli negotiations aiming at establishing an independent, viable and territorially contiguous Palestinian State within the borders based on June 4, 1967 lines and with East Jerusalem as its capital. They supported the Russian role in the Middle East Quartet aimed at achieving these ends as soon as possible. They expressed their readiness to contribute on a bigger scale towards a just and lasting resolution of the Middle East conflict.

The participants of the meeting appealed to the Palestinians and Israelis to undertake positive steps towards each other to restore mutual trust and create favorable conditions for restarting talks, avoiding unilateral steps, that endanger the two-state solution, in particular illegal Israeli settlement activity in the Occupied Palestinian Territories. They stood for overcoming the inter-Palestinian split based on the PLO political platform and the Arab Peace Initiative.

They expressed the intention to convene next consultations at the level of Deputy Foreign Ministers of BRICS countries in China in 2017.

The participants of the meeting also agreed on the advisability of holding regular consultations on the Middle East (West Asia) and North Africa topics at various venues, including the UN, and confirmed their support for holding informal meetings of their representatives.

After bombing the CIA facilities in Afghanistan, Pentagon has started their usual anti-Russia propaganda trying to poison relations between Russia and Afghanistan by lying about Russian military advisers in Afghanistan. VOA reporting Urdu/Pashtun hearsay that female Russians are vacationing alongside Russian generals in Taliban territory, because why not? [from the Kulak]

Would be interesting to look at their photos. Why didn’t they take picture to prove?

Remember that from Russia’s point of view there are two Talibans, good and bad.

Ramzan Kadyrov, who is a guardian of Prophet Muhammad’s relic and a respectable voice in the Islamic world, is working with good Taliban and with the government of Afghanistan. They recently asked Russia to rebuilt infrastructure and 170 objects built by the Soviet Union, a power station, a university, schools, and some manufacturing plans.When former vice president of Afghanistan Rashid Dostum came to visit Chechnya in 2015 he was so impressed by the high standards of living there, that he started crying in public. He said that would want the same for his people who were in war for the past 40 years and lost at least 2 million dead.

“We reaffirm our commitment to the UN-approved principles for a Palestinian-Israeli settlement, which include the status of East Jerusalem as the capital of the future Palestinian state. At the same time, we must state that in this context we view West Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.”

For now only Russia is fighting terrorism, while the rest are merely looking at us puzzled, not understanding, as if wondering: “Are they simply out of the loop or do they in fact want to destroy American terrorism? What’s going on?” And Donald Trump, captured by the neocons is like all the rest trying to understand what’s going on. His question is, first of all, what to do with the terrorist networks created by Washington with the support of American intelligence; secondly, what to do with Russia, who is fighting terrorism, really destroying it, and not just for fun like all the “normal” civilized countries;

The upgrade will bring the aircraft up to the same standard as Russian ‘Fencers’ that have been modernized under the ‘Gefest’ and ‘Sukhoi’ programmes, which began in 1999 and 2000, and completed in 2009.

The upgrade will significantly enhance the capabilities of the Syrian Su-24s, and promises to improve availability and maintainability, as well as combat effectiveness.

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Despair. Look at all those sons of mothers. The infant once cradled in loving arms is now lining up – literally – to kill someone else’s son.
For what?
Cui bono?

2/. The last “Cold War” confrontation was “stood down” when USSR placed nukes in Cuba. The US has its version of how this was “resolved”, but others know the US also removed itself from Turkey….
So, maybe, RF and PRC should do a deal with Mexico and put a million men on the border with the US…. Might motivate the mighty “Deal-Maker in Chief” to negotiate+ “stand down”.

“Once a war really happens, the result will be nothing but loss all around,” Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Friday, emphasizing that “no one will be a winner.”

“Tensions have risen,” Wang said in Friday’s joint news conference with French Minister of Foreign Affairs Jean-Marc Ayrault. “One has the feeling that a conflict could break out at any moment,” he added.

His tone made it sounded like chaos – potentially nuclear chaos – in the Korean Peninsula is more a matter of fate than of chance.

As tensions mount in the Korean Peninsula amidst speculation that North Korea could launch its sixth nuclear test at any time, Beijing is standing firm in its posture to the West and other non-North Korean allies that whoever triggers regional mayhem will have to pay the price.

Further, when Trump and Xi spoke via phone this week, the Chinese leader called for a peaceful resolution, the South China Morning Post added. Trump says Washington will “solve” the North Korea problem whether Beijing is onboard or not. During a news conference with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, Trump styled his position in an unmistakably Trump fashion: The US will “go it alone, but going it alone means going it with other nations.”

I bet China is pissed and the phone line between Beijing and Moscow are melting. Trump will need a big steak when this gets going. Seriously if this has to be done then China and SK have to initiate it, because they are the one’s who have to live with the fall out. I predict NK holds more parades China and Russia start slow walking this and the US goes home.

I dont get the point of amassing Chinese and Russian troops near NK border unless they are going to attack NK.

1. USA is bombing NK with nukes and their orange gay bomb, with the usual “accidents” killing Russians and Chinese troops while China and Russia invade NK?
2. Russian and Chinese troops are there to keep the population inside NK while USA bomb them with nukes and their orange gay bomb?
3. Russian and Chinese troops are there to secure SK/US/Japan troops do not “take over” NK after bombing it?
4. Russian and Chinese troops are there to support NK troops to invade and kick SK lapdog Government and US troops and US bases out from the peninsula.

Its really pathetic to see all Western Governments except Hungary having such a lapdog mentality to obvious rotten low lives on the Hill.

Democracy Now reported today that Donald Trump is threatening a missile attack against North Korea if they perform another test. Trump is playing chicken. This is a reprise of a similar crisis in the 1990’s when Clinton was threatening N. Korea with war if they didn’t end their nuclear program. The only reason a war was avoided was the unwanted intervention of Jimmy Carter, who was able to negotiate an agreement to end that program, which the U.S. later reneged on. Who will negotiate an agreement this time?

“According to some media reports, the ongoing US military buildup close to North Korean waters may go far beyond an ordinary show of force. On Thursday, American intelligence officials told NBC that the US has sent two destroyers capable of launching Tomahawk cruise missiles in the region, with one just 300 miles (some 480 km) from the North Korean nuclear test site.

American long-range bombers have also been positioned in Guam to hit North Korean targets. In turn, North Korea warned on Tuesday it would retaliate to any sign of American aggression with all means available.

“If the US dares opt for a military action, crying out for ‘pre-emptive attack’, [Pyongyang] is ready to react. We will hold the US wholly accountable for the catastrophic consequences to be entailed by its outrageous actions,” North Korea’s deputy foreign minister said in an interview with AP.

“The US introduces into the Korean Peninsula, the world’s biggest hotspot, huge nuclear strategic assets, seriously threatening peace and security of the peninsula and pushing the situation there to the brink of a war,” the North’s General Staff said in a statement carried by KCNA.”

Starting an aggressive war over the Easter Holiday, one can’t get much more zionazi Jewish than that.

MegaTrump, a Master Persuader, seems to be playing China to act against North Korea while taking the whole wider region in nuclear hostage. He’s been observing China and Russia for years in the background and now is his show time.

When the heat is turned up with trillions of economic $$ at stake, will China choose $$ and short term self interest over the long term collective security of Eurasia? MegaTrump probably is bluffing regarding going for a nuclear and large military war, but this seems to be an important stare-down contest with serious consequences for China and Russia.

For me if China fails to back NK and even goes along with Trump’s verbal taunts into confronting NK, Trump would have scored a huge geopolitical victory the likes of which will shadow those of Zhuge Liang in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms, by only using a few tweets, the usual ships, a few dozens of missiles and a oversized bomb. Yes, I believe he is of this caliber, and not a idiot/controlled/blackmailed person. Scott Adams explained it and is still explaining.

I don’t know what should be done but if those photos of military convoys are really air defense equipments, I think China and Russia are responding appropriately. Stay calm, move appropriate assets around and make MegaTrump hit water in the even he lost his mind/control over the military.

‘He has been observing China and Russia in the background and now is his show time.’

You are kidding right? I bet it would take him at least a minute to find North Korea on the map.
You are giving way too much credit to person swallowed by the ‘swamp’ in less than 2 months.
I can only imagine how all those people he lied to and who voted for him feel.
Man is a clown.

I’m not kidding, unfortunately. I think Clinton is a clown. But that man is not a clown. He’ll like to make you think he is a clown while he plots and play a long game. It is folly to underestimate your opponent. He is already started fund raising for 2020 elections…

He appeared to have been stopped by Russia and Iran in Syria as of now, and seems to be chickening out of the NK standoff which a strangely convenient ” NK missile failed immediately after launch- HaHA” claim. When he fails at something, you can be sure of at least 2 things (follow Scott Adams on this):
1) He will persuade you to reframe and focus the failure to be on NK’s/Russia’s/China’s part. Note he already reframed the NK issue to be entirely China’s problem.
2) He will keep trying to achieve what the administrative system he created is designed and staffed for. He is not a goal-oriented president. He is a system-oriented president. Meaning any initial failures does not matter or deter him, it only improves him over time. Think of him like the Terminator robot- it will only learn and improve till it succeeds or destroyed. Maybe we can think of the Anglo-american empire not as a group of like-minded powerful folks running the show, but more as a power hungry system of dominance set in place.

Even more alarming to me is this:

The missiles strike against Syria was met with large disapproval among his support base. However, after the deployment of the MOAB and the drone recording of the explosion being made public, you can easily see suggestions of using MOAB on North Korea in the same twitter/youtube audience, especially on yesterday’s NK military parade and celebrations.

As of now, the platform owners- Stefan Molyneux, Paul Joseph Watson, Mike Cernovich in particular, don’t seem to mind such thoughts coming from some of their followers. Remember the fuss about some MSM shill exclaiming the launch of the tomahawks as “beautiful? Its already starting to infect the anti-war/conservative base.

Cybernetics theories tend to rest on four basic pillars: circularity, variety, process and observation. Circularity occurs in its earliest theories of circular causation or feedback, later in theories of recursion and of iteration in computing and now involving self-reference in cognitive organization and in autonomous systems of production. This circular form enables Cybernetics to explain systems from within, making no recurse to higher principles or a priori purposes, expressing no preferences for hierarchy.Variety is fundamental to its communication, information and control theories and emphasises multiplicity, alternatives, differences, choices, networks, and intelligence rather than force and singular necessity. Almost all Cybernetic theories involve process and change, from its notion of information, as the difference between two states of uncertainty, to theories of adaptation, evolution and growth processes. A feature of Cybernetics is that it explains such processes in terms of the organization of the system manifesting it, e.g., the circular causality of feedback loops is taken to account for processes of regulation and a system’s effort to maintain equilibrium or to reach a goal. Observation including decision making is the process underlying Cybernetic theories of information processing and computing.”

It says “no recurse to higher principles or a priori purposes” but purpose, even if not a higher purpose or fixed, is necessary for evaluation, making decisions (based on what?), and with “to maintain equilibrium or to reach a goal” goal is explicit but even equilibrium is a purpose, albeit fugitive in the face of external interactions. (Stability is itself destabilizing in Minsky’s economics theory).

Presidents, and businesses, etc., issue ‘vision statements, and we’ve seen those from Trump — MAGA, for instance. ‘Failures’ is defined as failing to meet a goal of some sort, and improvement means more able to reach goals. You can say something has failures along the way to meeting a long term goal, but then there is a long term goal.

In such a case one needs to evaluate actions and processes in terms of the long term or strategic goal, but I don’t see this happening, say in terms of a better US economy, reduction of inequality and more social stability, better relations with other countries and better security, more efficiency in politics and administration, or redirecting resources to better ends. What I see is these things getting worse, headed in the wrong — the opposite — directions.

When people voted for him they had definite goals in mind, and he was supposed to make achievements in those, not run some stagnant system where nothing changed, or got worse.

Hi blue, yes you are right about the purpose of the system. I left that out because I don’t know what is Trump’s intended system purpose regarding foreign policies, apart from the current war-mongering foreign policy it is operating along. Is he simply AB testing and to pace and lead the whole MIC to a slightly different direction? To revitalize the MIC towards a technological leap that will secure the US’s dominance further?

Quite possibly it is still too early to know, or that it can only be judged at the end of his term/terms.

There you go J quoting from a Pakistani paper (Dawn) on an issue concerning North Korea: can you drop the pretence that you’re Chinese?

why not gives the readers here original material in mandarin from a real Chinese publication? SCMP is only used by English speaking foreigners and non Chinese speaking overseas Chinese “patriots”. if you’re really Chinese you can give the readers here a gist of each Chinese “paragraph” in English.

LOL. An India pretend to be Chinese! Do you even understand what your name mean? No one has a name like that.

No Chinese would complain a Pakistan news site. Dawn happen to be much more balanced, open mind, and factual than any of English speaking Indian MSM, they at times even openly disagree with their government which even Indian commentator commented that no MSM dare disagree with BJP in India without facing sanction or mob justice. However, It is not surprising that Indians full of the comment section, much like Global times. They are good exhibit of q(removed MOD)
Hong Kong people happen to speak English, and I am sure as (removed MOD), you must know the reason why.

(There was one sarcastic line to you in the comment you replied to. So I left one sarcastic one in your comment. You and those you are arguing with are behaving just like the US and North Korea are.Insulting each other and thinking that advances your arguments. It doesn’t,and needs to stop.And if continued will end in all the comments going to Saker for review.MOD)

Well Mod, it looks like 3 cents very afraid of Pakistan, or any neutral news outfit.

Any reasonable people would have welcome a good site regardless the religion, or nationality. For instance, I love to read Mr. M K Bhadrakumar’s http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/, even I do not agree with him all the time.

I read news from Russia, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, India, Philippines, thetelegraph, millitary.com and etc. They all have their bias, that is nature of life. Why would any one complain about a news site, especially a exceptional good news site? In most cases, From their comments section, you usually can gauge their so called elite and have a feeling of how reasonable they are. However, rt.com comments are un-usable.

There is no reason for any one to suppress a web site. Their accuracy is fair game. He can always discredit it with facts, but he is not doing that.

One more thing, 3 cents has been comment here for quite some time. He know who is regular commenting here. It is bizarre for him to insist on I am Pakistani. I am a Pakistani or not has no bearing on most of my comments.

I think 3 cents is very afraid of Pakistan, and Pakistanis who would point out atrocities they committed in Kashmir and against their minorities. Most people who does not follow Indian news would have not know that.

Basically, it says Wang Yi, at the joint press conference after the Wang-Lavrov meeting, expressed concern on the Korean Peninsula situation. It is described as “US/ROK versus NK are flashing swords and pulling bows; storm is imminent”. It further says Wang warned that, whoever starts the fracas would bear the historical responsibilities of consequences, and WOULD PAY THE PRICE. Wang urge negotiations to defuse the tension.

I see that this communique came out of visakhapatnam, an Indian City. Why is that? I thought all BRICS institutional infrastructure was located in Shanghai China. How could it be that statements out India could be so supportive of Syria, Russia and Iran and contrary to everything the US, Israel, F/UK and salafist Arabians have been trumpeting?

100,000 North Korean labourers work in Siberia on permit basis per year.

Russia and China have been instrumental in opening North Korea up to market economy principles and have been making huge strides.

In a way Trump is trying to steal thier thunder ae North Kirea is a nut all but cracked.

By striking North Korea and ending up with half a dozen unregulated Chernobyls spinnimg out of control for months ir even years on end US gets to damage for generations the capacities pf its biggest rival in the Pacific….an Asian Axis including a unified Korea, a free Japan, and PRC.

SK has always had socialist cooperative tradition, and that was the aim of the people when faced with the rebuilding of its state and society after the war started by the US until the US decided to place its boot in the middle and put in charge a puppet pro-US dictator with a burocratic corps formed by the collaboracionist SK aristocracy and Japanese occupiers who were managing the country before the war. So, the defeated were raised to power and the winners, SK people, submissed.

After the falling of the former pro-US president under the weight of its wide corruption, there are many possibilities that the next goverment coming out from the May elections will be socialist, as the natural evolution of a society who is socialist in its ancient cultural tradition.
This could well be the reason of the US´s hurry.
The US is in the Korean peninsula the foreign parasite to eliminate as the only source of damage, sickness and menace to peace and development and the very exsitence of he Korean people.

An early study examined the allegations of the use by the United States of bacteriological and chemical weapons in Korea. The Commission of International Association of Democratic Lawyers’ Report on U.S. Crimes in Korea, March 31, 1952, concluded that the U.S. used both germ (“deliberate dispersion of flies and other insects artificially infected with bacteria, with the intention of spreading death and disease”) and chemical (“use of poison gas bombs and other chemical substances”) warfare against both civilians and combatants in North Korea. Established at the September 1951 Berlin Congress of the Association, the Commission consisted of eight lawyers, one each from Austria, Italy, Great Britain, France, China, Belgium, Brazil, and Poland. The Association had been prompted by a Report of the Committee of the Women’s International Democratic Federation in Korea, May 16-27, 1951, an international commission of 22 women from 18 countries (including Canada and 7 Western European nations) that found systematic war crimes by a number of means were being committed by U.S. forces and South Korean forces under the command of the U.S., though it did not specifically discuss use of bacteriological or chemical weapons.

China convened its own international study, Report of the International Scientific Commission for the Investigation of the Facts Concerning Bacteriological Warfare in Korea and China, issued in Peking in 1952, finding significant use by the U.S. of germ warfare.

In all, thirty-six U.S. officers, mostly pilots, most from the Fifth Air Force, as well as some from the 1st Marine Air Wing under direction of the Fifth Air Force, gave their Chinese jailers statements admitting their participation in biological (germ) warfare. Most captured flyers acknowledged that tho they were subject to stress and duress, they were neither physically beaten nor provided information to include in their statements. The most exhaustive study of extent of US collaboration in the POW camps conducted by the US Army concluded that in fact there was no brainwashing nor beatings nor torture, but that the US prisoners were from a cultural background that failed to provide them with political insight and emotional maturity for dealing with such adverse experiences. Shortly after the confessing US prisoners were released in 1953, they were placed under strict control and the US government presented recantations signed by one-quarter of those who confessed. The majority did not recant, at least in public.

Trigger a conflict and be prepared to pay the price, China’s foreign minister warns

Way I see it China’s statement is aimed at both belligerents and not just the US. Xi doesn’t need a Korean war any more than Mao did during grandpa Kim’s time. Could China be dropping a hint to NK to drop the game now that Kim’s got Trumps’s attention?

China’s in the loop as far as this latest display of gunboat diplomacy is concerned. Yes, she’s moved troops to the border, but so has Russia in the far east. We would not expect otherwise, it is after all a time of tension and in a world full of mistrust, hedging is a no-brainer.

What is NK’s value to China? It is a buffer state that is almost 100% dependent on China economically and politically. China would like to keep it that way although how much real sway China has over NK following Kim’s ascendancy is now being questioned (albeit not by Trump) –Kim has yet to travel to Beijing to pay homage to the Son of Heaven; he has removed Beijing’s usual contacts in Pyongyang, leftovers from his father’s rule, and his previous nuclear tests have complicated things for China by providing the US a pretext to deploy THAAD on the Korean peninsula.

So China is telling NK: look, we have too much to lose if you take on the Americans. We are working on a deal with the Americans to let us be the Regional Hegemon. No, the Inner and Outer Barbarians don’t have to send tribute, just deference will do. So drop your tiresome game or we’ll step aside if you get into a shooting war. Yeah, we’ll lose a buffer state if you reunify with SK. That is something we’ll have to deal with but you won’t be around to see it.

I don’t live in SK or Japan, both countries who have received direct threats from NK (Kim threatening to bomb the SK presidential palace, etc). To an outsider, they seem to be strangely nonchalant about the whole thing. I’ve been scouring SK and Japanese news sites to get some sense of their reaction. Granted my search was not exhaustive but all I got are assurances by SK + Japanese govt/military about being consulted before any US action. Basically telling the SK and Japanese public that it’s alright, no need to worry. One SK newspaper even featured NK’s celebration of the ‘Day of the Sun’, grandpa Kim’s birthday.

Scanning Chinese Sina, there is very little talk of the Korea war. 3 items caught my eye:
1. Japanese bloggers are saying if Japan get bombed, they will not need to go to work next day…:-) Of cause, someone else are wandering if they going to have to work more if they were bombed.
2. NK show off three type submarine missiles.
3. NK will not waiting for death to come to them… this one has 548 comments.

There is really not much interest. Not many people think there will be a war. So may be everything is for show.

I think they see North Korea like a pesky little brother who gets into mischief all the time and they just wish he’d knock it off. All that self-imposed isolation, obvious misery of the people having to endure the regime. “How long,” they think, “Can he really hold his breath without turning blue and falling over?”

If he should actually use a nuke on South Korea or Japan, they’ll beat the holy living crap out of him, and he knows it.

Patricia – I strongly recommend a read of the attached article it contains facts about NK which might surprise you since most of what gets written about the country is based on ignorance.
I’d just make 2 points re your post
1) the isolation is not self imposed it has been forced on the country by a near 70 year long western led siege.
2) the type of government NK has is none of our business. Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela, North Korea have widely differing types of governments and this is a matter for them and their people.
What we should be concerning ourselves with – as we do in the case of Syria and Russia, countries under western aggression – is the right of this small and terrified sovereign country to live in peace free from terror and threats of annihilation.
North Korea does not want to attack anyone.
You are aware that North Korea has been seeking a peace deal with the US for years and have said they will give up their nuclear weapons if they get a non-aggression pact and if the US takes it’s military away from their doorstep. China supports this offer.
The Us refuses to even discuss the matter.

Well, with Pence visiting US troops in SK it looks like it’s more posturing, at least for the moment. No war-mongering politician would want to get in the line of fire. No, he was elected to direct the war from afar, with all “the bravery of being out of range” (apologies to Roger Waters). Also, Russian navy ships were recently in Busan. I’m not sure if they’re still there but the visit would surely signal to Kim that Russia is not interested in his game.

For the sake of humanity, let’s hope we’re right this time and it’s all a show.

On another note, what Kim really wants with his shenanigans is a one-on-one meeting with US ‘leaders’. For what purpose? Status and ‘face’. To the Asian mind, ‘face’ (respect, esteem, public standing, honour and all of the above) is important. So far the Americans have declined to indulge him.

And it’s unlikely that they will because I think Kim is, perversely, an important tool in the bigger and infinitely more important Sino-US relationship. They can use him to indirectly threaten China as they have shown with THAAD; they can also use him to keep SK and Japan, both with a nuclear Sword of Damocles hanging over their heads, on-side with US dealings with China.

‘We are working on a deal with Americans to let us be the Regional Hegemon’.
If this is what you think is really hapening, than I have to say it is extremely naive.
Letting China be a ‘Regional Hegemon’ is the last thing on Washington lunatics’ mind.

Apologies for the late reply. I’m not sure if you’ll read this but let me put it up here as a matter of record of my take on China.

Making China the Regional Hegemon appears naive if we only look at Sino-US relations in isolation. It appears less so when we take into account the US’s desire for global primacy. Ceding the regional hegemon spot does not necessarily mean complete displacement or US’s complete absence in Asian affairs. There is some give of course — it simply means it (US) will play a smaller but still significant role in the Asia Pacific.

We assume that China aspires to be a global No. 1 state, displacing the US in the process. Being a global power does not equate to being the global hegemon. Throughout its long history China has shown that it is insular. Unlike the Europeans, it has not left any legacy of Chinese rule is far away places as Africa, the Middle East, the Americas, or indeed, a region populated by the Outer Barbarians, South-East Asia. All we have are Chinese communities who have remained in regions where their ancestors came to trade, work or prospect for precious metals. China watchers are still debating whether modern China is influenced by its history ie it is not interested in territorial expansion. It seems to me the majority of them think, yes that is the case and China may be satisfied with being a Regional Hegemon. China’s claims to the South China Sea
may point to it being expansionist but it is willing to negotiate its position, meaning its ‘sovereignty’ over the SCS is not set in stone. Indeed its assertiveness in the SCS may even be defensive, building on the ‘island chain’ strategy.

Of course the US won’t let China go unchecked — it will ‘delegate’ the primary task of ‘containing’ China to its allies, Japan and Korea, and its new found friend (albeit one with an independent foreign policy), India. All three have their own anxieties about China. They may be unwilling to do it but if the US decides to re-pivot to Eurasia, they may well have no choice.

Now on to the big picture. All this will enable the US to tackle the biggest obstacle to its ability to maintain its primacy: Eurasia, specifically Russia. Break up Russia and you’ll continue to be top dog. The strategy may look a bit dated at first glance, but I think Zbig Brzezinski’s thoughts about Russia still resonates in DC. Recent events bear this out, you will agree. These kinds of strategies are expounded in the full knowledge that they take decades to come to fruition.

I am rooting for Russia but I’m afraid Russia will stand alone if push comes to shove. In actuality Russia and China are two rivals who’ve only come together because of a common interest. This may change as soon as one party (Beijing, most likely) gets an offer it can’t refuse. The old adage of ‘divide and rule’ is still valid but I’m sure В В Путин is aware of this.

I agree ,I think that is what the US wants. But I also think its “past time” for China and Russia to stop caring about what the US and the UN thinks and will “say”. They need to start doing what “needs” to be done for their security.

“The only way for China to avoid this, is to go into NK before US does but they will not do so, ….”

No, there are other ways for China to avoid this. China can “clear out” the Yanks even after they go into NK. They did that in 1950, with only 1/100th the military strength of what they have today. On the Korean Peninsula, the Yanks have no hope of winning the war against China today.

I think the US is goading NKorea to make their move first. The want Pyongyang to take a preemptive strike. That would give them a reason to attack. NK shud just chill and wait for Trump to strike first after that they should go straight for American bases in Japan. And on the Pacific. America would not dare go nuclear esp if NK doesnt go nuclear coz all eyes would be on em. In fact me thinks NK can inflict conventional pain on the US PACOM without going nuclear.

“Ramzan Kadyrov, who is a guardian of Prophet Muhammad’s relic and a respectable voice in the Islamic world, is working with good Taliban and with the government of Afghanistan. They recently asked Russia to rebuilt infrastructure and 170 objects built by the Soviet Union, a power station, a university, schools, and some manufacturing plans.”

good Taliban? I am no fan of their draconian, brutal ways, and am wondering if this was meant tongue in cheek?

Which is not to assert myself as in any way positive towards the failed and still failing attempts by the brits and yankees to destabilise that country, it is more simply to question any support for a crowd who have appeared very consistently to enforce a twisted, ultra vicious rendition of Islamic Law.

I am no fan of the Guardian, yet this report has done the rounds far more widely, touching upon realms I close to believe on occasion. Though still narrow my eyes, suspiciously.

Is Chechnya so horridly anti-gays? Are they brutalising gay folk or anyone even suspected of homosexuality? I would very much appreciate some response on this matter. And before any backlash of my conditioning erupts, which confirms the conditioning of others, which they are blind to, I have no major LGBT posture, I respect anyone who respects the choices of me and everyone else, gay, transexual, non binary whatever. Yet I do baulk and find opposition towards any crowd which seeks to infringe upon the rights of a man or woman solely due to their sexual preference, which hurts nobody, and is their choice, in any enlightened society. I do not judge people on their sexuality, I judge them on their sincerity, knowledge, heart, soul and spirit.

The young Winston Churchill wrote about the hill-billy tribesmen of which we now speak as “taliban”, more or less. I believe he wrote “[that they were] illiterate and poverty-stricken tribesmen possessed of the finest martini-Henry rifles…” And “All were content to bask in the warm glow [brought by the Swat road and postal fort system] of prosperity – all except the priests – who then preached jihad…”

It’s their country. It was then. It is now. But they’ve never been stupid – everything’s smashed, maybe they did ask for some help. It’s a cinch they’re not going to ask the Americans…so it makes sense that they would approach a known reliable state.

“Good”, “Bad” – these depend on who asks, not so much what is.

The gay stuff is politics of identity – which diffuses the left and makes it helpless. Private life is private. Laws must guarantee this, after that, nobody’s business. I pay no attention to politics of id.

JN
From what I read, Taliban are now pro development an d regret restriction of women under their previous rule.

We all once backward country. Abe Lincoln’s sister was married at 12 or 13. I know for fact, old China had plenty of child marriage, and good share of honor killings. The reason Chinese is more open mind today, very heavily own to China is not religious society, and Mao sent city elite to live a peasant life and bring peasant children to the city to be doctors, and academics.

The middle east now seems backwards, because the so called forward looking society bombed them to stone age, and they hate ideals associated with the so called advanced world.

The very isolated area are backwards because the tradition, and the environment and want to make sure their tribes survival in the isolation.

When road are build, information are freely changes, people are living in peace, if anyone can not adapt, then their tribe/civilization will cease to exist. We have plenty of lost civilization in history.

IMHO, we should reserve the judgment today, and understand why things happen in certain way, until we stop bring war, and start to bring peace, and development to them.

No matter what the faults we may see in the Communist system of the past.If we look at the countries they influenced,at least in the so-called “Third World” they left a social legacy far superior to what others have left.The education for all,health care for all,equality of the sexes and ethnic groups,national infrastructure,etc. They left a “base” that its taken the new pro-Western groups until today to squander away.

You are right, Bob. Communism is obviously a good influence, as well as Confucianism. If you pay attention, the Confucius countries, communist or not, are have much easier time adapting to change, and usually more equal.

I’m not really an expect on that. But if I remember correctly the little I’ve heard about Confucianism. Its a not a hide bound religious or ideological system. Which is why it was able to co-exit with various other systems in history.

Even for me, it is hard to tell where Confucius starts, where tradition ends.

When I was in elementary school, I (and every pupil) learned one of most beautiful, and inspiring writing in Chinese history. It was studied not only for the beautiful writing, but also for the message it convey. It is 岳陽樓記 ( Yueyang Lou Ji ) written by Fan Zhongyan (范仲淹)https://zh.wikisource.org/wiki/%E5%B2%B3%E9%99%BD%E6%A8%93%E8%A8%98

The writing is 1000 years old from north song dynastic. Here is a English version of what it is about, and back ground of the writer. I can tell you no one can translate it properly into English.http://www.mountainsongs.net/poet_.php?id=392

The essence of it is this sentence:
「先天下之憂而憂，後天下之樂而樂」according to above translation, it should be:
a Confucian-esque admonition:
“One should be the first to bear hardships and the last to enjoy comforts.”

However there are a few more phases of last paragraph that can give you glimpse of currently Chinese thinking, or why I and other Chinese would disagree with westerner’s assertion of Chinese would abandon principle for material gain, and perspective of Chinese government:

不以物喜，Don’t be overjoyed with material (gain),
不以己悲，Don’t feel sorry for yourself,
居廟堂之高，則憂其民；If you are in government, worry and care about civilians,
處江湖之遠，則憂其君。If you are an average citizen, worry and care about government ( or the country)
是進亦憂，退亦憂；然則何時而樂耶？If one always worry , when should I be happy?
其必曰：I believe (I say)
「先天下之憂而憂，後天下之樂而樂」”One should be the first (of the citizens) to bear hardships and the last (of the citizens) to enjoy comforts.”

Before this last paragraph, the author was writing about beauty of Yueyang Lou and Dongting Lake, and hinting at sadness over his demotion.

You can only experience the beauty of this writing if you know Chinese.

Confucius lived at end of Spring Fall Warring period, many of his ideas were learned lesson from history. So it was hard to tell IMHO that if an ancient events inspired Confucius, or if a latter event was influence by Confucius and/or history.

Oh I see, so according to you the cultural revolution was a good thing. Wow!

The Taliban regret whipping women and preventing them from getting an education. Yeah sure.

Mid East is backwards because of bombs, not because Saudis export nihilist backward oriented Wahabism and Salafism (along with their running dog mercenaries regimes in Turkey & Pakistan). Yeah sure. So the terrorists in Syria are not Salafist & Wahabist crazies and they did not destroy much of Syria?

The afghans were not as backwards as they are today were it not for interference in their culture by Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, two detestable Empire client states.

The afghans have slipped backwards due directly to the stupidity of the Reagan regime to fall for the Pakistani ISI con-job that it would be a good idea to radicalize the Afghan resistance along Islamic lines in order to fight the Soviets. The Chinese and every other major power told the idiot reaganites that this was long term mistake, but they went ahead anyway.

Even then, after the US & soviets left, afghans were not so medieval and barbaric like the Taliban. Thanks to the evil designs of the Pakistanis, Saudis and later Anglo-intelligence agencies, the afghans were subjected to Pakistan orchestrated talibanization.

You have to wonder about the credibility of people that try to put revisionist spin on the barbarism of Salafism and Wahabism.

Well, Like I said:
“When road are build, information are freely changes, people are living in peace, if anyone can not adapt, then their tribe/civilization will cease to exist. We have plenty of lost civilization in history.”

“IMHO, we should “withhold” (not reserve) the judgment today, and understand why things happen in certain way, until we stop bring war, and start to bring peace, and development to them.”

I am aware Taliban was not up to other’s standards. If Taliban can not adapt, and the Afghanistan people do not like Taliban, they can run away, so the country die off, or over threw it. It is obvious Russian and US both can not do anything about it, Pakistan is feed up, and Chinese will not interfere.

You’re right Pakistan feed the Afghan Taliban up even now. So why won’t the Chinese interfere and apply pressure on their vassal state, Pakistan, to stop feeding the Taliban bombs and guns? If the Taliban regain control of Afghanistan, the region will once again be used as a safe haven and training ground for anti-Russian Islamic terrorists and anti-China insurgents, Uighurs.

China must stop Pakistan to stop feeding up the afghan Taliban and then Russia & the Afghan government Intelligence can stop feeding-up the Pakistan Taliban (which gives lots of terrorism to Pakistan).

Yes you are right it is not healthy to be obsessed with hatred of nation or religion. In particular the hatred of religion is a disease of the discredited communist mind; the cruelty of the Maoists in this regard is unequaled. Intolerance and contempt for religion is why tolerance of minority religions in Communist lead China is paper thin and they engage in such vicious and cruel oppression of harmless religious practices such as banning face veil and long beards (as well forcing muslim government workers to break fast on Ramadan). The Uighurs are not immigrants in their own homeland, it is the Han that are immigrants into the land of the Uighurs, so it is doubly immoral for the Han to impose these restrictions on the Uighurs (i.e. these traditions are native to the uighurs in their own land, this not equivalent to the French ban which is applied on a culture foreign to France).

Ironically this same hatred of religion (all other religions) is also a disease of the Salafist and wahabist mindset that infests the laws and governments of such regimes as Pakistan, Erdogan’s turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Sudan, and now Libya. Propping up and supporting such terrorist sponsoring and spreading regimes is immoral. China should not “feed-up” regimes such as Sudan, Pakistan or even think of building a partnership with Erdogan’s Turkey when that snakish crook funds uighur and chechen/dagestani terrorism (and the salafist crazies in Syria) and will compulsively backstab anyone he deals with.

Also I am not sure what your obsession with the term 3 cents is, is it some kind of cultural symbol?

Part of that might be true. Usually there are a few nuggets in propaganda stories put out to attack Russia. But the facts are that Chechen society is not supportive of gays. That’s just a fact. And just as we hear about honor killings among Muslim society (even in the West). Its possible that goes on there as well.But Russian law doesn’t discriminate against people. So it appears those people aren’t going to the courts.The courts would be different than “complaining to the authorities”.And with all the “liberal” media in Russia. One would think there would be a lot of stories about that if it was as widespread as the Russophobe’s at the Guardian portray it to be.In most Muslim states its a criminal offense to be gay. In some its a capital crime. Chechnya while a Muslim republic inside the Russian Federation is still bound by Russian law. So they aren’t able to pass laws like that there.The Guardian Russia-haters would be better served if they cried their crocodile tears over the killing of gays in pro-Western Muslim states.Where I have little doubt the numbers would be much higher than in Chechnya.But if they did that they wouldn’t be able to spend their time 24/7 bashing Russia over anything and everything they can think of or make up.

Brilliant response of a fair few welcome words delivered above from others, UB. And I concur. At least to some degree. For I am already acquainted enough with the horrors of the KSA regime. And have known them as both an ally of the worst of the world’s overseers an enemy of the people, even their own people. They are also clearly the most overt sponsor of global terrorism on the planet, only trumped by the slightly more covert sponsors of the same in Israel and the US. However, I am interested here in Chechnyna…which I would like to consider as a friend, to me and its people, as I do Russia (where I have a loose understanding of the laws regarding sexuality and find them fine and dandy, perhaps not liberal enough for some, but behind closed doors is between consenting adults, that is my marker of basic respect for one’s choices and freedoms).

And so, to take on board the Chechyn leaders and overseers picking on minorities in their society, makes me far less keen on Kadyrov. Regardless of what other countries are doing…

I cannot look past such a thing, because other regimes are doing the same, if not worse for I do not wish to find respect for the others, yet I do for Chechnya.

And yes yes, of course, I am well aware of the mass media, broad sheet or tabloid, proving more often than not when it comes to the enemies of their paymasters, nothing more than a grisly mass deceit machine which spouts lie after terrible lie in order to garner public support in their direction…

A little odd to find that advice as I cannot for the life of me find even a hint of my civility lessening, I was in fact very much enjoying the discussions which had taken on several other paths I had not expected. Confucious for one! yet perhaps you were referring to the posts of others I have not seen…

I had attempted to respond to your question, but apparently one of the previous mods felt you were too fragile to be confronted with my response and needed protection of the politically correct kind. Apparently the subject we’re disagreeing on is too delicate and politically incorrect. I guess LGBT lifestyle advocates are a special category of humans that need special consideration (like zionists): hypocrisy of the worst kind. You make sarcastic illusions to the claim that “people in the West are suffering from conditioning that makes them react to certain trigger subjects, precluding rational debate”, as if it’s a myth or doesn’t affect you and your world view. Saker just submitted an article on “the elephant in the room” referring repeatedly to just this sort of conditioning and how this leads to reflexive reactions & reflexive mental block: he doesn’t think that such conditioning is a myth but a reality, as do I: I broke this conditioning (in me) in many areas prior to my exposure to this site and in one very important area only after exposure to this website.

Here was the example you requested: Putin supported a Russian law that banned exposing children to gay and alternative sexuality propaganda. For this “crime” the LGBT banshees in the AZ empire went crazy on Putin and Russia during the Sochi Olympics.

I ask you again, what is your opinion on the foisting gay materials and propaganda onto children?

Your previous non answer tells me that you feel your point of view is not on solid grounds.

Prosecutors in Chechnya launch probe into reports of ‘abductions of gay men’

Prosecutors and other law enforcement agencies have launched an investigation into media reports on the alleged abductions of gay men in the North Caucasus republic of Chechnya, the press service of Russia’s Prosecutor-General’s Office said on Monday. The prosecutors had received requests from Russian human rights commissioner Tatyana Moskalkova and the management of Novaya Gazeta daily to investigate the “alleged mass abductions” in Chechnya, TASS said. The Chechen authorities earlier denied the reports.

When we look at the facts surrounding the siege of North Korea and what the people have had to endure at the hands of the US regime it becomes clear where the problem lies.
Worth noting that the US has wanted to destroy NK for far longer than NK has had nuclear weapons (only since 2006) and for far longer than Kim has been in power so for the gangsters to say it’s all about NK’s nuclear weapons and the character of it’s leader is a lie. It’s about destroying a sovereign state which the Rothschilds don’t yet own and moving NATO right up to China and Russia’s borders with North Korea.

“The moral compass is wildly askew here. For instance, “we could simply back off fighting territorial ISIS in Syria and make it entirely a problem for Iran, Russia, Hezbollah, and Assad. After all, they’re the ones overextended in Syria, not us,” Friedman claims. “Make them fight a two-front war — the moderate rebels on one side and ISIS on the other. If we defeat territorial ISIS in Syria now, we will only reduce the pressure on Assad, Iran, Russia and Hezbollah and enable them to devote all their resources to crushing the last moderate rebels in Idlib, not sharing power with them.”

P.S. In Friedman’s defense, ORB International (an American research firm) revealed in 2015 how 85 percent of Iraqis and 82 percent of Syrians believe the US created ISIS. With The New York Times publishing columns like this, it’s no wonder.”

“The Trump administration doesn’t want Americans to access the truth about what’s happening in Syria or North Korea, that’s why the CIA is trying to demonize WikiLeaks which consistently brings truth to the people, says Arvin Vohra of the Libertarian Party.

RT: What do you think about the CIA chief’s statement about WikiLeaks?

Arvin Vohra: Mike Pompeo has said WikiLeaks is acting as a hostile intelligence agency, which is complete nonsense. Instead of taking state secrets and giving it to a foreign military, they are taking things that should be public knowledge and bringing it to the American people. If WikiLeaks is, in fact, a hostile intelligence agency – think about who they are sharing it with. They are sharing that information with the American people which suggest that Mike Pompeo thinks that the American people are his enemy.”

Well, when one represents israeli’s colonial occupational regime, the american people are then considered the enemy. That’s how colonialism works.

1.Russia confirms hotline with US military in Syria remains suspended as Kremlin refuses to publish summary of meeting between Putin and Tillerson suggesting a fraught and difficult meeting with hard words exchanged.

2. The subject of the reinstatement of the hotline was undoubtedly a primary topic of the discussions between Russian President Putin and US Secretary of State Tillerson in Moscow a few days ago.

3. the Kremlin has failed to publish an account or summary of a meeting.
This suggests that the discussions between Putin and Tillerson – which are said to have lasted for an extraordinary 2 hours – were especially sensitive and tough, with hard words exchanged, and that Putin said things to Tillerson which he does not want the world to know about, presumably in order to avoid escalating what is already a very fraught international situation.

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