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re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate

Did all that you quote about women change them into something other than the gender they were? They were still marrying the opposite gender, men... so, marriage didn't change, women changed a bit, but they were sill women marrying men... no biggie.

Yes, well, truthfully I have seen some of your astute analyses prior. I think I'll just comfortably wait for the real decision, thank you very much.

Of course not...we are still women...but with equal rights in marriage.

SSM doesnt change gay men or gay women....it just gives them equal rights in marriage.

And I can only gloat over your waiting...and eventual realization, lolololol.

Originally Posted by Bucky

I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.

Originally Posted by applejuicefool

A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate

No to your first question, In a free society I do not think it is possible, plausibly optimal but probably not possible...but if a SS couple have them one takes ones chances and gets what one gets in custody battles... one cannot complain and besides, no sympathy, not my/our problem.

I would certainly not allow for SS adoption. Toleration is one thing, condoning, acceptance or promotion is simply out of the question.

I truly might care about your opinion on that if I cared at all about your opinion. We have crossed swords enough for me to have a fairly accurate assessment, your expressed ideology is not compatible with those of the people I might desire to impress.

Meh. If you are the fruit of your ideology, then I think you do us all a service by making posts like these so we know how to judge it.

I have worked in social services long enough to understand the realities of this world. I have seen opposite sex couples who neglect and abuse children. Just being an opposite sex couple does not imbue people with the natural ability to parent or act responsibly in the best interest of children. There are same sex couples who are responsible and very capable parents. Even in this case, the state of Michigan argued that these two women are excellent parents. Somehow your ideology blinds you so deftly that you ignore reality and choose to believe that same sex couples who could be excellent parents should be denied that opportunity based on nothing more than because they are same sex couples, and even if that puts children in less qualified homes or as continued wards of the state. Truly, you represent your ideology well, where you care so little for children as to put your own selfish interest ahead of what is in the best interest of kids who need good and stable homes.

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re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

Originally Posted by Deuce

They are the highest court in the land. If they say same-sex marriage is a constitutional right and must be legal nation-wide, that's the law. Precisely zero people are going to do anything about it. Nobody is going to war over this, and that's what it would take to reject a Supreme Court decision: toppling the US government.

You have been told numerous times that nobody is suggesting that everything goes under the 14th. Maybe this will help you realize it finally, because either you are missing these posts or you're literally not smart enough to understand them. Nobody says equal protection fits everything. You've been told what the test is. Not everything passes that test.

Nobody is going to war over same-sex marriage. That's just fantasy.

So do it already and quit talking about it. I am so tired of all these whiny right-wingers ranting for years about tyranny, socialism, communism, "2nd amendment remedies," and all that internet tough guy bull****. It's all talk, you are never going to do a thing. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it. So step up or quit embarrassing yourselves. If you really thought this was tyranny, you'd have been fighting already.

Oh, dang, you're so knowledgeable about...well, everything...so yes, I will just drop all thought and unhesitatingly follow what you say...good lord almighty, what farcical comedy we have right here.

So, you right, you right... nothing to worry about here, look the other way.

Hey, guessing you must be Mister I am following everything but I just can't seem to keep it straight, huh? lots of people have said lots of things here in these posts to me... most of it wishful thinking and prognosticating based on liberal ideas on how things ought to, will and must go based on certain criteria locked into by the SC... and I am saying if they overstep their bounds, and I don't think they will, but if the SC tries to change society, a society that is not so desirous of this change, well, especially with all the other crap hitting the fan, not just tea party groups, not just conservatives, not just republicans, not just independents, now even democrats are running from this train wreck, the boobama express railroading us with his liberal socialism, his inability to lead, all the corruption, coverups, all the spying, the attempted suppression of the opposition... all the things you folks ignore are simmering on a stove that's heating up... and this kinda full out bull crap right here on SSM is adding real fuel to that fire.

But... I am fairly certain the SC will understand its place in history...

Oh, and...

Bless your heart, here comes the whiny ass complaints about perceived whiny right wingers, too too funny... Ahhhh...poor little thang, somebody hurt your feelings did they? Just won't go along, be convinced by the sweet emptiness of your rhetoric, eh? Maddening for sure when you just know deep in your heart you are right...yeah, right. Might just be time to take a rest... or at least give it a rest. You got nothing except emotions on your side of the debate, emotions coupled with a lot of tinkering with the system making it somewhat unworkable.

BTW, we try to work things out, bend over backwards, then when we have finally had enough, we kick butt.

We have had enough.

"...But resist we much, we must and we will much, about that be committed..." --- the right Reverend Alfred Charles "Al" Shaprton, Jr.

re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

Oh, dang, you're so knowledgeable about...well, everything...so yes, I will just drop all thought and unhesitatingly follow what you say...good lord almighty, what farcical comedy we have right here.

So, you right, you right... nothing to worry about here, look the other way.

Hey, guessing you must be Mister I am following everything but I just can't seem to keep it straight, huh? lots of people have said lots of things here in these posts to me... most of it wishful thinking and prognosticating based on liberal ideas on how things ought to, will and must go based on certain criteria locked into by the SC... and I am saying if they overstep their bounds, and I don't think they will, but if the SC tries to change society, a society that is not so desirous of this change, well, especially with all the other crap hitting the fan, not just tea party groups, not just conservatives, not just republicans, not just independents, now even democrats are running from this train wreck, the boobama express railroading us with his liberal socialism, his inability to lead, all the corruption, coverups, all the spying, the attempted suppression of the opposition... all the things you folks ignore are simmering on a stove that's heating up... and this kinda full out bull crap right here on SSM is adding real fuel to that fire.

But... I am fairly certain the SC will understand its place in history...

Oh, and...

Bless your heart, here comes the whiny ass complaints about perceived whiny right wingers, too too funny... Ahhhh...poor little thang, somebody hurt your feelings did they? Just won't go along, be convinced by the sweet emptiness of your rhetoric, eh? Maddening for sure when you just know deep in your heart you are right...yeah, right. Might just be time to take a rest... or at least give it a rest. You got nothing except emotions on your side of the debate, emotions coupled with a lot of tinkering with the system making it somewhat unworkable.

BTW, we try to work things out, bend over backwards, then when we have finally had enough, we kick butt.

We have had enough.

again, do you have anything besides deflections?
all we need is you to provide one argument that can be support with anything logical, accurate, factual or reality based. We have been waiting page after pager after page.

heck you still have yet to provide one reason equal rights harms you.

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re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate

When marriage becomes a farce nobody will marry any longer... who would want to be part of a joke? Without marriage among heterosexuals you have rising poverty rates among single parents and children, besides which they do not get the benefit of training, parenting and a critical understanding of both sexes growing up. Kinda like learning math with only addition and no subtraction.

no reason has been given or can be given that show same sex marriage to make marriage a farce

if the benefits of marriage are what you mention hear it never can be one

im sure gay people marrying wont make more people pore might help with gay people who are raising kids

can you tell me what training your talking about and how preventing same sex marge will give it to more kids?

re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate

YOu know really, if you are an adult, some of this stuff you can figure out on your own. Just sit and think about it outside of your preconditioned, public school propagandized, media influenced box... there, answered and instructed at the same time, killing two birds with the one stone.