Tuesday, March 25, 2008

Pak Lah to seek audience with Agong

updateDirty Dozen. Pasquale says HERE that 12 of the 22 Umno Aduns who've pledged support for Idris Jusoh have today given their support to the Palace.

Original postingFinally! When I told Capt Yusof about what the PM reportedly said this morning - that he would seek an audience with the Agong to end the Terengganu MB "kemelut" - the Ancient Mariner barked: "He should have done that from the start!"

The Sleepy Head should first apologise to His Majesty for failing to seek out the Sultan's opinion and feelings about his proposed appointment of Idris.

Pak Lah knew there was bad feelings on Idris by the palace and there were many, many signs of this. Yet he persisted in nominating Idris. This guy is just trying to impose Idris on the Sultan.

If The Sleepy Head can seek the Sultan of Johor's opinions and feelings about that state's Mentri Besar before allowing Othman Ghani to continue, why can't he do the same for Terengganu who supplies the current King? Why have double standards? See what his stubbornness has led to?

A muddling PM is no good for the country. Time for him to step down. But I guess he just cannot read the signs. He relies too much on bad advisers. At this rate, he won't last a 100 days.

What do you expect from a sleepy head? He need time to warm up and wait for his stupid adviser. Why can't he think for himself,to be a leader you have to think and move fast... I agree with chow kit cowboy he won't last a 100 days

It is almost difficult for the Sultan of Terengganu [now Agong] to tell his side of the story.

Put simply, the non-Muslims have show great disrespect to the vast Majority of Muslim in Terengganu.

They are making use of Corrupt and secular Malays to develop the State without regards to the History of Terengganu.

Terengganu used to be administered by the Syariah in the good old days of the previous Sultans [18th-19-early 19th Centuries].

The CORRUPT Malays think that by becoming more developed and "westernised" "liberal" and "progressive" the Terengganu people will become people human beings.

And they readily import Monsoon and the vulgar aspects of development .... they cannot imagine that the greater Muslim cities of Cordova and elsewhere,can do without the Hedonistic banalities typical of Western cities.

The Sultan must be feeling guilty for abdandoning the legacies of his great great grandfathers ...

On TV just now pak lah mumbling don't know what.Come on MT UMNO save the president from further embarrassment.Can't you people see he's drowning.Have a little bit of compassion for the idiot PM. Force him to resign!

It is not that Pak Lah has not thought about it.He just refusing to the right thing until now. Even send the AG to talk to the Agong. He has met Johor Sultan when there was issues there. But in Tgganu, he really wants Idris and the palace is adamant about not having Idris. Why can't Pak Lah compromise? That is the big question? Is there nobody other than Idris? or Idris is so indispensable for Pak Lah? There is alot of money in Tgganu compared to Johor.

Guys he is seeking an audience with His Majesty the Agung to advise His Highness that unless Idris is appointed MB of Terengganu forthwith, he(Dollah) will resign forthwith as Prime Minister but then again I must be daydreaming after today's heavy lunch.

he should have resign. but some people, their face are too thick and cannot be rub with the ordinary slap.

there are two ways looking whos fault is this.

the advisors. and he himself.

blame the advisors would look an escape route, but not so fast old man. they are known stupid and kurang ajar, then u urself give them the jobs and still not firing them (after all things that had happened!) that means, u are double stupid.

blaming urself would sound quite honourable. but then by taking the bullet, u have no choice but to step down.

Its like dejavu innit! wait wait wait then when something major happens then they try to figure out the next course of action! one would think they would have learnt from the political tsunami.....on top of all this, he wants to be finance minister as well!! Amazing.....

You really wondered why it took the PM so long to seek an audience with the King.Maybe he just woke up.He is definitely wrong to try and tirade against the King in the public. He should also know that the King commanded the highest respect from all races, not to mention his own Malays in Umno. As a non Malay, I am also very displeased with his actions so far. He must pay the proper respects to the King. He must go and see the King and listen to the King's reasons instead of seeing things his way.You really wondered do they teach students about respect, culture and humbleness in Oxford? So far, the arrogances reflected poorly on the 4th floor boys, and I really mean 'boys' as they have not makan enough "cili padi" to warrant calling them "men".

Never mind who the advisers are, just shoot them! They causing more harm alive.

And while he's in the mood now, Pak Lah should also seek an audience with DYMM Raja Perlis and apologise for the earlier fiasco!

All UMNO members involved in Perlis and Trengganu should hold a gathering to publicly apologise to the Raja and The King. If they can demonstrate over the flimsiest of causes, they can jolly well demonstrate their remorse. That is, if they have any.

A good leader do not advice but can act spontaneously on his own.To be spoon-fed and diapered cannot make a good leader.A Great leader will not have put himself into such a dumb position as what has happened.He would have appointed a good suitable person.However he himself should be such a person himself to begin with.

Menantu more focused on duties as FAM deputy president and Malaysian Super League CEO these days. He's got some rear end lickers to write about it, so why not? What the heck, he flew in 'living legend' Ian Rush to conduct 3-day clinic for strikers. How perihatin he is.. WOW..I suspect he will fly in Gloria Macapagal Arroyo or/and Joe Estrada next to conduct leadership clinics for the rest of UMNO.

wei guys..come on lah, give the poor man a break. I almost had heart attack laughing like hell reading all those comments. The best part is he said the Sultan'sdecision is unconstituional. Hope he had read that :Under Article 10 of the constitution of Terengganu (first part), the Sultan appoints a menteri besar who fulfils the following criteria: ‘He is of the Malay race and professes the Muslim religion’ and ‘who in his judgment is likely to command the confidence of the majority of members of the assembly’ [Article 14 (2) (a)] and if he chooses to disagree he can use article 14 (4) as it states: ‘In appointing a mentri besar, His Royal Highness may, in his discretion, dispense with any provision in Article 10 restricting his choice of a mentri besar, if, in his opinion, it is necessary to do so in order to comply with the provisions of this article’.Now cant wait the outcome of the royal audience that Pak Lah is seeking.

It is obvious by now that the PM's desperation in wanting to retain the former MB by all means implies that there are several items and past transactions in Trengganu that he wants to keep confidential.

The PM's advisers know very well if these transactions blow out in the open,its the end of the Advisers.

Even so, he should have approached the problem differently, as all the commentators here have said.

By the way, as reported in the Singapore Straits Times, it quoted him as saying "I will meet the Sultan". Don't you think it should be "I will seek an audience with the Sultan"?

(2) Yang di-Pertuan Agong boleh bertindak menurut budi bicaranya pada melaksanakan fungsi yang berikut, iaitu: (a) melantik seorang Perdana Menteri; (This means that the Agong has full discretionary powers to appoint the PM. If he appoints then he can also strip him of his post. This is made clear by the earlier provisions which spelt out the fact that the Agong has to follow the advice of the PM and his cabinet but here clearly states that he has discretion over the appointment of PM. This means that he has to be comfortable and happy with the PM and be confident that the man can do the job and has the support of the majority in parliament but it is certainly within his realm to call someone to the palace to form a Government. Further on The Constitution also says that Cabinet members are also appointed at his Majesty’s pleasure and even if the PM is stripped of his job or he loses a no-confidence vote, the ministers can stay on if the Agong says they can. If the cabinet is appointed at his leisure then it is also his to remove them, although Therefore the PM had better choose his words carefully when it comes to Terengganu because it is well within the Agong’s powers to strip him of his post)(b) tidak memperkenankan permintaan bagi pembubaran Parlimen; (c) meminta diadakan mesyuarat Majlis Raja-Raja yang semata-mata berkenaan dengan keistimewaan, kedudukan, kemuliaan dan kebesaran Duli-Duli Yang Maha Mulia Raja-Raja, dan apa-apa tindakan pada mesyuarat itu, dan dalam apa-apa hal lain yang disebut dalam Perlembagaan ini.

Dolah should have spoken to the Agong first, not to the press!! Dont you think the Agong is already slighted? Compounded with Ghani Patail's reminding the Agong on His constitutional rights!! I would script the scenerio of Dollah and Deris having the audience with the Agong.Deris: "I say sori le...Takkan you marah sangak.."Agong: "Natang siape ni?"Dollah: "Ampun Tuanku,..bekas MB Tganu!!"Agong: "Huh..eloklah,..tak reti bahasa!!"

In a pc today, Idris had said that he was willing to accept any decision on the mentri besar post for the good of the people. He had also said that he would accept a directive from the Prime Minister or the King to step aside. (pls go star/nst online or Malaysiakini for full story)

Either he is stupid (like his boss in Putrajaya) or arrogant (also like his another boss, Patrick Lim).

The Agong, in appointing Ahmad Said as MB, wanted Idris to "step aside."

Agong, in declining to meet Idris on March 9, wanted Idris to "step aside."

Tak paham2 jugak si Idris ni. Can somebody gimme his mobile number so that I can ask my 7-yr-old kid to explain to him that Agong wants to "step aside."

His supporters pun sama, arrogant (like his another boss, whose plate number KJ10Q). They heckled reporters during the PC. So much for Kepimpinan Melalui Tauladan.

Banners insulting Agong all over KT, including on the fence of Idris' house - what is this? tak sekolah ka these people?

No manners, arrogant bastards. I wonder what their fathers and mothers had taught them.

All three were contentious issues which had a great impact on the public, and invariably, placed the Agong in a very tight political spot.

(On a side note, in early 2007, on being asked regarding the VVIP plane bought by the government, AAB replied that the Agong is also privileged to use it knowing full well that the present Agong ascended to the throne barely a few months earlier while the plane was ordered in 2005. Seriously, folks, name dropping do not get you anywhere).

10Eleven was a momentous day when the rakyat turned to the Agong for remedy against the administration.

When asked when he will seek an audience with Agung, Pak Lah said "secepat mungkin"! Meaning what? 1 day, 2 days or another week!! Why can't he move fast, he didn't waste a second to rub Michelle Yeoh shoulder...I hope Agung will refuse to see AAB. Serve him right