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We’ve always had a disproportionate number of flammers in the church. BYU is the worst for it. The only bigger gay Mecca is Frisco. That's probably what polygamy was all about. Mormonism disproportionally breeds gay males, and the reduced number of lucky straights had to pick up the slack with the ladies. That's why there are so many bitter single sisters today, victims of a shortage of straight men in the church.

I was hoping you'd have posted a screen-shot of both M* and TS being down.

Steve EM: Are they actually homosexual or are they effeminate heteros?

The closest link that [any type of] science has found as to what "makes" a homosexual is/was the theory that boys of a certain age (4 to 7?) failed to bond properly with their fathers, and part of their personality never grew beyond age 7. An arrested development thing.

At the time the American Psychiatry Association dropped homosexuality as an abnormality (against the wishes/beliefs of most of their members) back in the 70's, most of their members subscribed to the arrested development/failure to bond with a father figure theory.

There has also been strong scientific evidence (can't find the refs at the moment) of links between effeminate personality in men and the level of female hormones in the mother during gestation. It was a high correlation if I remember.

But my real questions to Steve EM are whether the correlation between effeminism and homosexuality is as high in the church as it is in the general population? Or does the church just have a higher percentage of effeminate heterosexuals? Could there be something in the diet or lifestyle of Mormon mommies that is giving them higher levels of female hormones, especially during pregnancy? Or does the church actually nurture or promote effeminism in boys?

I don’t know, Booksliger. I'd say most flamboyant men are gay. If not, they'd tone it down to avoid getting hit on by gays and so as not to discourage interested women from flirting with them. And given that many gays aren’t effeminate, it's probably safe to take 90% of the number of effeminate men, multiply by two and have an approximate number of gay males in any population. The LDS church has a lot of them.

What causes homosexuality? Nature or nurture? Hell if I know, but it's obvious most homosexuals have no choice in their orientation. It’s good the church no longer pressures them to marry straight women; that puts a burden on two people that no one should have to bear. I don’t know about the gestational female hormone hypothesis. My wife works closely with a lot of gay men and she has said for years they tend to be a bit more endowed on average vs. straight men. Dihydrotestosterone (and the receptors thereof) influences penile growth in the womb, during childhood and puberty. Perhaps a certain common homosexual activity enhances endowment somewhat, but I doubt it. What ever the root causes of homosexuality, I’m sure it’s a complex phenomenon.