It has been quite a while since I launched a similar thread and I must say that the responses from the antis last time truly under impressed me. Just absolute rubbish! Perhaps there are some newer and wiser antis who wish to take a swing at the same fundamental question. So let’s try again shall we?

To the opposition:

It can be observed that many antis come here to Opposing Views pushing a product; this product is called Cultural Diversity or more accurately, Cultural and Racial Diversification, defined as moving more and more non-white people and non-white culture into historically White Territories. Fair enough?

In the last 40 years alone Diversity has already been purchased, or rather imposed and installed in nearly all of the former White nations on a scale not seen since the Moors invaded Europe. Naturally, it is producing quite a number of effects globally, but I diverge.

My question is simple:

How has this unprecedented flood of Diversity significantly benefited the Average White Person be it technically, culturally, economically, spiritually, etc. In short, what major benefits does Diversity give Whites they cannot get without it?

Please list only concrete tangible benefits that Whites COULD NOT or HAVE NOT already accomplished ourselves on our own or gained, or could gain by interacting remotely with non-whites, through foreign travel or study, visiting foreign tourists, etc. but WITHOUT permenantly importing masses of non-whites into our lands.

Please do not post answers like cheap labor, Indian food or revenge. These answers have already been thoroughly addressed ad nauseum.

• Cheap labor only benefits the bank accounts of company owners, stockholders and the immigrant himself otherwise he would stay home, but not the White Population in general, quite the opposite actually. There are already many threads on this very subject with links all over the web explaining it.

• Exotic foods, music, architecture, etc. don’t count either because we don’t need you all here in mass learn about, practice or experience any of these. It’s just simple common sense.

• Finally, I remind you all that revenge, payback, etc. for past Imperialism, Slavery, or what ever you believe our ancestors did against your ancestors and other such motives are NOT net-benefits to today’s Whites.

If you antis truly want us to buy into your product then please tell us what we Whites actually gain from it. The floor is yours.

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Re: How does Diversity benefit Whites? Round #2

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Originally Posted by Daddy Wolf

It has been quite a while since I launched a similar thread and I must say that the responses from the antis last time truly under impressed me. Just absolute rubbish! Perhaps there are some newer and wiser antis who wish to take a swing at the same fundamental question. So let’s try again shall we?

To the opposition:

It can be observed that many antis come here to Opposing Views pushing a product; this product is called Cultural Diversity or more accurately, Cultural and Racial Diversification, defined as moving more and more non-white people and non-white culture into historically White Territories. Fair enough?

In the last 40 years alone Diversity has already been purchased, or rather imposed and installed in nearly all of the former White nations on a scale not seen since the Moors invaded Europe. Naturally, it is producing quite a number of effects globally, but I diverge.

My question is simple:

How has this unprecedented flood of Diversity significantly benefited the Average White Person be it technically, culturally, economically, spiritually, etc. In short, what major benefits does Diversity give Whites they cannot get without it?

Please list only concrete tangible benefits that Whites COULD NOT or HAVE NOT already accomplished ourselves on our own or gained, or could gain by interacting with remotely but not importing masses of non-whites into our lands.

Please do not post answers like cheap labor, Indian food or revenge. These answers have already been thoroughly addressed ad nauseum.

• Cheap labor only benefits the bank accounts of company owners, stockholders and the immigrant himself, but not the White Population in general, quite the opposite actually. There are already many threads on this very subject with links all over the web explaining it.

• Exotic foods, music, architecture, etc. don’t count either because we don’t need you all here in mass learn about, practice or experience any of these. It’s just simple common sense.

• Finally, I remind you all that revenge, payback, etc. for past Imperialism, Slavery, or what ever you believe our ancestors did against your ancestors and other such motives are NOT net-benefits to today’s Whites.

If you antis truly want us to buy into your product then please tell us what we Whites actually gain from it. The floor is yours.

DW

Just how does homogeneity benefit us? answer to your question: it doesn't benefit or negate, either way. most of the current "negatives" are based on current societal mores, that won't exist in the next 100 years (maybe even 50), as you got to remember--Romans once considered anyone a Roman citizen a Roman, regardless of race and skin color. it was only with the 1500's and colonization that racial theories of superiority really begun to take off, as colonizers needed justification for capturing lands and such.

ALSO, many people simply like diversity. need proof? (and you can't say that whites don't account for much numbers--since we still are 2 for every 1 non-white, a significant number of those polled who responded positively have to be white)

As long as white nationalists do not see any benefit from capitalist interests said above then you are a true nationalist. The biggest hypocrisy of WN is thinking that white people can still maintain a capitalist society once gotten rid of multiculturalism. World capitalism is built on colonial style of economic and political infiltration into world nations in order to gain profit as much as possible. The strategy of infiltration includes promoting race-mixing, liberal propagandas, all kinds of insdious cowardly plots.

(i) Diversity is an attack on racism and nationalism. Racism and nationalism have caused some of the most destructive wars in history. Think of how many White people would have been alive if different races and nations didn't feel the need to fight each other.

(ii) The ability to form relationships and friendships with a more wide spectre of people. I think that's very important for many people.

The argument could be made that recruiting the smartest from other countries (Im thinking of doctors) benefits us. And its a lot easier to recruit the smartest non-whites because they have the most to gain from moving to a first world country.

Thats all I could think of off the top of my head, will try to think of others.

The argument could be made that recruiting the smartest from other countries (Im thinking of doctors) benefits us. And its a lot easier to recruit the smartest non-whites because they have the most to gain from moving to a first world country.

Thats all I could think of off the top of my head, will try to think of others.

How is importing non-white doctors to compete with Whites for a White nation's best paid jobs any kind of net benefit to Whites? It is cleary not.

Whites already have our own doctors, many brilliant ones too. Moreover, we can train our own White people to fill any new positon in our health care sectors and already do this. We do not need non-whites to treat us in our own countries.

Finally, a few brilliant non-whites taking jobs from Whites is no justification at all for forced Diversity as defined and mass non-white immigration.

Please re-read my question because I don't think you understood it at all.

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Re: How does Diversity benefit Whites? Round #2

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Originally Posted by Daddy Wolf

How is importing non-white doctors to compete with Whites for a White nation's best paid jobs any kind of net benefit to Whites? It is cleary not.

Whites already have our own doctors, many brilliant ones too. Moreover, we can train our own White people to fill any new positon in our health care sectors and already do this. We do not need non-whites to treat us in our own countries.

Finally, a few brilliant non-whites taking jobs from Whites is no justification at all for forced Diversity as defined and mass non-white immigration.

Please re-read my question because I don't think you understood it at all.

How does it NOT benefit us? truth is, the overwhelmingly vast majority of white people just don't care about race as much as you do.

How does it NOT benefit us? truth is, the overwhelmingly vast majority of white people just don't care about race as much as you do.

I beg to differ. What is the basis for organizations such as The NAACP, The National Council of La Raza (The Race), The Anti Defamation League (ADL) and others? It seems that race and/or ethnicity is extremely important.

Moreover, the above-mentioned organizations are hardly fringe organizations. In fact, they all have extensive followings among those they represent and wield a tremendous amount of political clout. The above-mentioned organizations also show that non-whites work towards what serves in their particular best interests and their best interest alone.

If diversity was a natural source of strength as so many "anti-racist" ideologues assert, anti-racism would cease to exist. Anti-racism is the ultimate admission that diversity is a failed social experiment.

Let me take things a step further and pose the following questions: How is diversity benefiting impoverished blacks living in ghettos? How is diversity benefiting illegal aliens? How is diversity benefiting whites who are being displaced in their own nations as a result of mass non-white immigration? Who is really benefiting from diversity other than those with self-serving political and/or political agendas? Who is really benefiting from policies like NAFTA and GATT?

Just how does homogeneity benefit us? answer to your question: it doesn't benefit or negate, either way. most of the current "negatives" are based on current societal mores, that won't exist in the next 100 years (maybe even 50), as you got to remember--Romans once considered anyone a Roman citizen a Roman, regardless of race and skin color. it was only with the 1500's and colonization that racial theories of superiority really begun to take off, as colonizers needed justification for capturing lands and such.

ALSO, many people simply like diversity. need proof? (and you can't say that whites don't account for much numbers--since we still are 2 for every 1 non-white, a significant number of those polled who responded positively have to be white)

It's safe to say that the future of White Nationalism is quite dim, and dimming more and more every day. sorry buddy, but history has it's winners and losers, and this is the part where you guys lose.

Thinking it benefits us and actually doing so (as the question was posed) are not the same. How DOESit benefit us. Answer the question.

You say it is quite dim, yet the amount of people on this one site has tripled in what, 3 years? People are seeing the changes of Diversity and multiculturalism, yet, not fast enough.

Having friends of another race is not obscene. I would say some of us here have non-white friends or have in the past. We do not hate every black like you want to say we do.

Only 41% would notMIND living in a multi cultural neighborhood. I wish THAT question was expanded out a bit. How many of THOSE have lived in one before. That seems to be the norm here, that most of us have lived in Multi Cultural neighborhoods, perhaps that is why we are here?

It is funny how whites talk about non-whites (non WNs) when they are only talking to other whites, and they think it is 'safe' to say it without being PCd into oblivion.

I see it, they say one thing to me in the office, and then when there is some blacks around, they are all PC. It is very cute to watch the two sides, and then I have to ask "which one is the real side".

Just how does homogeneity benefit us? answer to your question: it doesn't benefit or negate, either way. most of the current "negatives" are based on current societal mores, that won't exist in the next 100 years (maybe even 50), as you got to remember--Romans once considered anyone a Roman citizen a Roman, regardless of race and skin color. it was only with the 1500's and colonization that racial theories of superiority really begun to take off, as colonizers needed justification for capturing lands and such.

ALSO, many people simply like diversity. need proof? (and you can't say that whites don't account for much numbers--since we still are 2 for every 1 non-white, a significant number of those polled who responded positively have to be white)