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X DARPA Director & Google Exec Pushes Microchipping Human Beings

An ex DARPA director and Google exec want to start putting implants into people, good idea? You might not be able to draw money or grocery shop without authentication and identification.

I think we all could see this coming with technology and gov't control increasing. Is it time to Microchip the human race? Though, I can already see the hackers finding ways of changing the identities. Where there's a lock, there's always a thief.

With the recent revelations by NSA whistle blower Edward Snowden, it’s no secret that we live on a planet characterized by mass surveillance and virtually zero privacy. We live in a world where we are constantly bombarded with the idea that we face threats, that a high level of national security is needed in order to keep us safe. Think about it, the United States pumps a large majority of their money into the Department of Defense. A state of fear, war and terror is needed to keep those funds flowing in that direction.

It doesn’t stop there, remember when credit and debit cards changed into one with a chip? That could be you in a few years as multiple corporations are pushing to microchip the human race. In fact, microchip implants in humans are already on the market. For example, an American company called Applied Digital Solutions (ADS) has developed one approximately the size of a grain of rice, and has already had it approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for distribution and implementation.

Einstein, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

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"God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."-C G Jung

Re: X DARPA Director & Google Exec Pushes Microchipping Human Beings

An ex DARPA director and Google exec want to start putting implants into people, good idea? You might not be able to draw money or grocery shop without authentication and identification.

I think we all could see this coming with technology and gov't control increasing. Is it time to Microchip the human race? Though, I can already see the hackers finding ways of changing the identities. Where there's a lock, there's always a thief.

Before going down that road we had better get much more robust control of our government personnel.

Re: X DARPA Director & Google Exec Pushes Microchipping Human Beings

An ex DARPA director and Google exec want to start putting implants into people, good idea? You might not be able to draw money or grocery shop without authentication and identification.

I think we all could see this coming with technology and gov't control increasing. Is it time to Microchip the human race? Though, I can already see the hackers finding ways of changing the identities. Where there's a lock, there's always a thief.

How about these pieces of **** who suggest that people ought to be microchipped be the first ones to volunteer and then supply everyone else with a app that can track their ass and see how long those people think its a good idea to microchip people?

"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

Re: X DARPA Director & Google Exec Pushes Microchipping Human Beings

An ex DARPA director and Google exec want to start putting implants into people, good idea? You might not be able to draw money or grocery shop without authentication and identification.

I think we all could see this coming with technology and gov't control increasing. Is it time to Microchip the human race? Though, I can already see the hackers finding ways of changing the identities. Where there's a lock, there's always a thief.

There's no way this becomes mandatory; but that said it's not a bad idea. A passive RFID tag could give you secure access to everything. ID theft would become much harder, you wouldn't need keys for your house or car. You wouldn't even need to carry your wallet and ID. You're already tracked everywhere you go with your cell phone. And you need to carry all of these credentials everywhere you go. And they have a limited range, which means that it would be pretty tough to be scanned without your knowledge.

So you could carry keys, wallet, credit cards, and ids... or get a rice sized implant which does the work of all of them.

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And that is the foot in the door that they use a crock of **** excuse to chip people. No thank you.

"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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Originally Posted by joG

Before going down that road we had better get much more robust control of our government personnel.

Originally Posted by jamesrage

How about these pieces of **** who suggest that people ought to be microchipped be the first ones to volunteer and then supply everyone else with a app that can track their ass and see how long those people think its a good idea to microchip people?

Originally Posted by Mithros

There's no way this becomes mandatory; but that said it's not a bad idea. A passive RFID tag could give you secure access to everything. ID theft would become much harder, you wouldn't need keys for your house or car. You wouldn't even need to carry your wallet and ID. You're already tracked everywhere you go with your cell phone. And you need to carry all of these credentials everywhere you go. And they have a limited range, which means that it would be pretty tough to be scanned without your knowledge.

So you could carry keys, wallet, credit cards, and ids... or get a rice sized implant which does the work of all of them.

I don't think they'll sell this tech very easily. At first it will be optional to show how beneficial it is, then as people see they can't hardly function in modern society without it, they'll push it hard.

Of course we can be tracked already to some degree, but I fear any ability to manipulate this tech for nefarious purposes will be the real hurdle. And yes it could be both a positive and negative, like most things of impact.

The thing I don't like is the treatment of humans like cattle or herds. And a chip could hold all your records, including medical, financial, education/employment, criminal etc.

Einstein, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

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Originally Posted by Mithros

There's no way this becomes mandatory; but that said it's not a bad idea. A passive RFID tag could give you secure access to everything. ID theft would become much harder, you wouldn't need keys for your house or car. You wouldn't even need to carry your wallet and ID. You're already tracked everywhere you go with your cell phone. And you need to carry all of these credentials everywhere you go. And they have a limited range, which means that it would be pretty tough to be scanned without your knowledge.

So you could carry keys, wallet, credit cards, and ids... or get a rice sized implant which does the work of all of them.

Anything can be hacked and used for malicious purposes, or could experience failure. If the perception is that the RFID chip "tells no lies" about who did what, you have some pretty bad situations that can occur.

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Originally Posted by Mithros

There's no way this becomes mandatory; but that said it's not a bad idea. A passive RFID tag could give you secure access to everything. ID theft would become much harder, you wouldn't need keys for your house or car. You wouldn't even need to carry your wallet and ID. You're already tracked everywhere you go with your cell phone. And you need to carry all of these credentials everywhere you go. And they have a limited range, which means that it would be pretty tough to be scanned without your knowledge.

So you could carry keys, wallet, credit cards, and ids... or get a rice sized implant which does the work of all of them.

ID theft becomes simpler, there is only one lock to bypass, RFID cypher. Good security requires defense in depth each layer different from the others and independent from the others. Time is the enemy of the thief. Soak up the thief's time and efforts. Nothing is one hundred percent, but with good security the likelihood of you being target and your id stolen successfully is far less.

Semper Fidelis, Semper Liber.

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