I am so proud of our squadron's website, I feel everyone should see it!

It is very informative and shows a lot of hard work the Public Affairs Officer put into it!

And don't worry, all the information on it is with the consent of those involved including the use of the pictures of cadets (which has been in discussion for a while on other sites of possibly becoming regulation)

I am so proud of our squadron's website, I feel everyone should see it!

It is very informative and shows a lot of hard work the Public Affairs Officer put into it!

And don't worry, all the information on it is with the consent of those involved including the use of the pictures of cadets (which has been in discussion for a while on other sites of possibly becoming regulation)

I'd say it was great if you hadn't taken WIWG'sJoin CAP "hover" graphic for your own...

Kinda goes against your "And don't worry, all the information on it is with the consent of those involved" bit, doesn't it?[/quote]

It wasn't taken without permission from someone in Wisconsin or Wisconsin "borrowed" it from someone else. Like I said, everything on the site is with consent of the person who is responsible for the site.

Are you responsible for that site? Are there any other members responsible for that site also? Doesn't seem to make a big deal anyways considering how Wisconsin's site looks.

I take things personally when it comes to the squadron. You make it no different when you try to compare my squadron's site to a poor wing site.

I'd say it was great if you hadn't taken WIWG'sJoin CAP "hover" graphic for your own...

Kinda goes against your "And don't worry, all the information on it is with the consent of those involved" bit, doesn't it?

It wasn't taken without permission from someone in Wisconsin or Wisconsin "borrowed" it from someone else. Like I said, everything on the site is with consent of the person who is responsible for the site.

Are you responsible for that site? Are there any other members responsible for that site also? Doesn't seem to make a big deal anyways considering how Wisconsin's site looks.

I take things personally when it comes to the squadron. You make it no different when you try to compare my squadron's site to a poor wing site.

Gee, you do take things personally. A great trait for a squadron commander to have.

From a non-personally-taken stance, if I was notified I was using something without permission, I'd pony up an apology most riki-tiki and politely ask the person who made it if they'd mind sharing. And yes, I am responsible for the site, as well as creator of that graphic. Many people here would attest to that.

It's rather odd that you trash the appearance of another website when you (or your staff) have taken the liberty of an online five-finger discount to procure its contents, don't you think?

And while you're at it, there's another poor site called www.civilairportal that you seem to be frequenting that's also mine. Feel free to bash that one all you want too, just don't steal from it.

Mmmkay?

PS... I found this funny too:

Quote from: CAPEAGLE on Civilairportal.com

How do I go about getting an avatar in my sig? Whoever thought those up were a genius!

Thanks

Again, me. Sorry to burst your bubble that this so called genius that I am can't even make a decent wing website.

I think you do an excellent job on all the sites (except Wisconsin's site, sorry, but its true). Anyways, this site was originally called andersoncompositesquadron.com and was moved to a .org site after I took command. Most of the information was carried over from that site (including your little handy-work) and was authorized to use on that site.

It doesn't matter what you think. You can take your little "piece of property" and keep it for yourself.

By the way...If anyone wants to use any of the ideas on our website, feel free to do so without argument. We're non-profit and we must stick together on ideas. Too bad others on here can't figure that out!

Oh...by the way...permission was given a little over a year ago for that little "piece of property". If you wish to contact me personally, D'Nall, I will be happy to provide the information of the person you gave permission to and you can discuss it with them (I know you have my information so it isn't a problem. Or is it?). I wonder how much you're making on that little thing. Oh, yeah, NOTHING!!!!

I guess this will be my last posting on here anyways since the "boss" wants to make a big stink out of nothing. So I do want to say to most that I enjoyed the discussions and learned alot but I don't think this is helping CAP any by having an administrator want to argue over stupid stuff. Especially someone who goes back on their word. There's helping each other out! So thanks for the fun but you can keep it!

Major Hornbuckle, I don't know whether you had permission or not but, theft of internet property is a big deal amongst those of us who create and maintain websites so I'm sure that is what upset Citizen Airman.

Now unless you have some sort or communications offline with D'Nall then you've fingered the wrong person in your previous post as I do not see where he has posted in this thread. I believe (been wrong before) that D'Nall lives in Texas and has nothing to do with the WIWG.

My sincerest apologies to D'nall for that remark. It was an error on my part and will not happen again. I was thinking about something else and just hit the wrong button ("post" instead of "preview"...still a rookie!) without previewing it first. However, I will say that if Citizen Airman wants proof of the permission, he can feel free to contact me at anytime.

Thank you for noting the mistake mawr, I do appreciate it.

I do understand the fact that members work hard on their websites and creations. That's why permission is always obtained (mostly as a courtesy, but it is obtained). There is nothing on our site that would prove otherwise. The little thing has been removed and will not be on there again, regardless of permission. Just for the sake of keeping peace. We are more civilized than that, at least.

Gentlemen, please. I'm new to this discussion board. However, I must say, this lack of professionalism is the reason CAP is often viewed as simply a place for grown men to play GI-Joe.

We're all responsible for the image of Civil Air Patrol. This impolite tit-for-tat is anything but the image that I would like to see portrayed in Civil Air Patrol. Our websites are simply a tool to build the organization and deploy the mission.

It is my personal opinion that we should all encourage each unit's success and betterment whenever possible. I would hate for our cadets to see our 'grown-ups' behaving this way.

Gentlemen, please. I'm new to this discussion board. However, I must say, this lack of professionalism is the reason CAP is often viewed as simply a place for grown men to play GI-Joe.

We're all responsible for the image of Civil Air Patrol. This impolite tit-for-tat is anything but the image that I would like to see portrayed in Civil Air Patrol. Our websites are simply a tool to build the organization and deploy the mission.

It is my personal opinion that we should all encourage each unit's success and betterment whenever possible. I would hate for our cadets to see our 'grown-ups' behaving this way.

My take is that there is nothing wrong with a good argument, but I do agree that to the layman, a misunderstanding such as this can be mis-interpreted. The airing of 'dirty laundry' should be done out of the eye of the general public IMHO.

Viewing of the forum should be restricted to active CAP members and not every Tom, Dick and Sally. Even more importantly our cadets should not be privy to discussions such as this, but that could be hard to manage in a thread that started innocently enough.

Bickering about who's website is better than who's is just a tad juvenile. But I certainly agree with CA being upset about graphics he designed, I know I would be. Not everyone can be a graphic and web design genius.

You're right, mlcurtis69 and I apologize also for what was said about the Wisconsin Website. There is nothing wrong with it. It's an argument that wasn't worth anything, just a little frustration going out. The one thing I won't apologize about is the fact that we did not "steal" that pic! My staff has assured me that they have the permission available and I believe them! It was obtained June of 2005 by a female. Other information is available to CA if he wishes to contact me.

Anyone who wishes to use pics or information off our site is more than welcome to if it is used for Civil Air Patrol or non-profit purposes. I would like to have a courtesy letter sent to us just to let us know you're using it. More updates are on the way too!

I've been banned from civilairportal.com. I guess my input isn't welcome there, although I never made any comments on that site regarding this discussion.

If you would look at my original posting on here, I want us all to learn from each other on how our sites look and work. This also gives us a chance to show off our sites to others. That was my only purpose for the posting anyways.

But for informational purposes, the picture in question has been removed. If you notice, it has been replaced on here with our squadron patch.

My apologies to all and I feel that we are all here to do one thing, make CAP a better organization for everyone. Argument or not, things got out of hand. I do take things too personally when it comes to my squadron (as any commander should). And being called a liar makes it even worse!

You're right, mlcurtis69 and I apologize also for what was said about the Wisconsin Website. There is nothing wrong with it. It's an argument that wasn't worth anything, just a little frustration going out. The one thing I won't apologize about is the fact that we did not "steal" that pic! My staff has assured me that they have the permission available and I believe them! It was obtained June of 2005 by a female. Other information is available to CA if he wishes to contact me.

In hindsight, ideally, the conversation should have been taken offline the minute there was a question of impropriety.

Anyone who wishes to use pics or information off our site is more than welcome to if it is used for Civil Air Patrol or non-profit purposes. I would like to have a courtesy letter sent to us just to let us know you're using it. More updates are on the way too!

I've been banned from civilairportal.com. I guess my input isn't welcome there, although I never made any comments on that site regarding this discussion.

A generous offer indeed, but also a standard point of order to request of the webmaster a desire to use elements from a website.

Of course I can't really comment on the fact that CA banned you from his site, but alas, it is his personal site.

If you would look at my original posting on here, I want us all to learn from each other on how our sites look and work. This also gives us a chance to show off our sites to others. That was my only purpose for the posting anyways.

Yes, your original intention was a valid one, pride in your website is a good feeling. But I'm sure you can see it from the other side of the coin if someone was 'showing off' something they were a part of and some element of it was something you created.

But for informational purposes, the picture in question has been removed. If you notice, it has been replaced on here with our squadron patch.

My apologies to all and I feel that we are all here to do one thing, make CAP a better organization for everyone. Argument or not, things got out of hand. I do take things too personally when it comes to my squadron (as any commander should). And being called a liar makes it even worse!

Your right, we should be making CAP a better organization for everyone. That's what makes forums like this such a valuable tool.

Aside from all of that. Regarding web design. As far as I'm concerned as an IT professional, NHQ should develop design standards for the websites expressing the missions of the organization. It would maintain a very professional image for CAP and relief each squadron/wing/region from having to come up with a design of their own, also allowing a speedy implementation of said site.

Any further discussion should be how we can improve our image on the internet. 'nuff said.