Obama Admin Announces Military Pay Cuts, Gives $102 Million To Foreign Terror Group

So we are giving another $102 million to the Syrian Rebels (who are in cahoots with Al-Qaeda), and insinuate that we'll be giving more .... but at
the same time we are so strapped for money that we have 'take a look' at what amounts to military pay cuts (benefits cuts) and personnel cuts? Is
this story correct??

Our Blue Angels are grounded ... 'The People's House' is closed to the people ... but Obama sends hundreds of millions of dollars over to the
Syrian Rebels who are holding hands with Al Qaeda??? INSANE.

Despite the organization being linked to Al-Qaeda and after having several pictures surface online of fighters grilling a decapitated human head,
the United States pledged to give Syrian opposition forces $123 million in new defense aid – doubling the aid previously pledged by the Obama
Administration. ...

Critics, however, are quick to point to a speech made earlier this month by Secretary of Defense, Chuck Hagel, where he cautioned that due to
financial governmental strains, the Obama administration may soon be forced to consider Department of Defense layoffs and pay cuts for military
personnel. ...

So now the rebels are a terror group? And how many people will really get upset with this? Remember how they cheered when Romney said he would arm the
rebels even after the ties with Al-Qaeda had been shown. We need to cut off everyone over there and bring our people home.

He WANTS the military weakened. he stated before the '08 election that he didn't trust them, and wanted a "civilian security force. He also
stated he would "stand with" the Muslims.

S&F.

Seeing how the military has been acting lately I really don't trust them that much either. The rape and murders of innocent people over there has
been inexcusable. What's wrong with him saying he stands with Muslims? Are you saying that almost two billion Muslims should be viewed as the enemy
because of the actions of a few? If that is the case then we should be at war with every religion but the moonies and the Amish.

Giving a hundred million to the free syrian people to help themselves fight the HumanSlayer ASSAD with their own blood and sacrifice is better than to
do NOTHING at all, allow the situation to get even worse till a regional conflict erupts, and then the US military will HAVE TO step in, as that
HumanSlayer ASSAD HAS and ADMITTED to possessing WMDs which can affect us all if it falls to the wrong hands.

Such intervention by US will cost billions, if not trillions and worse, will not even be appreciated by anyone for those who needed such intervention
will say it was too late and those who loses will use the victim card and cry foul to the world.

At least right now, the Free Syrian People are ready and willing to fight by themselves and not asking for boots on ground. They only ask for help
and, as the UN security is divided, thanks to Putin who had turned his eyes to the slaughters done by the HumanSlayer Assad, UN air support is not
possible, unless Putin is forced to open his eyes to the tragedy happening in Syria for the past 2 years to now, and will continue on if the syrian
people is not given better help to end the bloodshed once and for all.

Let us all keep our fingers crossed that the WMDs are not unleashed by the animal Assad or by the Jihadists, and that the Free Syrian People can
topple the beast alone. If the Free Syrian People failed as they had no military support, or the WMDs are unleashed - even trillions of dollars CANNOT
buy back precious human lives, as each human life is precious and means something special to another.......

How the hell can they openly admit that terrorists are operating in Syria yet send them all this money at the same time after everything the US have
been through over the last decade or so? This should be an insult to every Westerner and all this proves is that when Assad was crying about terrorism
in his country, he was 100% right. This is against international law and how the rest of the world can sit back and do nothing is beyond me. 80-90,000
dead and counting and all we can do is keep pumping up the terrorists while the likes of the UN sit quietly? Zero credibility and they should be
dismantled as one of the biggest political failures in history.

As for you get some common sense. This Humanslayer bs isn't working anymore. Terrorists by the admission of most world leaders are operating in
Syria. You should be disgusted with what your government is doing and what they have contributed to over the last 2 years. Without out support, this
would of been quashed long ago. All we have done is fuel the fire.

Giving a hundred million to the free syrian people to help themselves fight the HumanSlayer ASSAD with their own blood and sacrifice is better than to
do NOTHING at all, allow the situation to get even worse till a regional conflict erupts, and then the US military will HAVE TO step in, as that
HumanSlayer ASSAD HAS and ADMITTED to possessing WMDs which can affect us all if it falls to the wrong hands.

America doesn't HAVE to do a damn thing and really has no right to do anything. Syria has not attacked America and it isn't Americas place to get
involved in the internal affairs of another country. And it has been shown that quite a few of the killings blamed on the "HumanSlayer" was in fact
committed by the rebels. And the if they fall into the wrong hands BS is same kind of crap we heard for the war on terror.

Such intervention by US will cost billions, if not trillions and worse, will not even be appreciated by anyone for those who needed such intervention
will say it was too late and those who loses will use the victim card and cry foul to the world.

If we mind our own business we save even more money.

At least right now, the Free Syrian People are ready and willing to fight by themselves and not asking for boots on ground. They only ask for help
and, as the UN security is divided, thanks to Putin who had turned his eyes to the slaughters done by the HumanSlayer Assad, UN air support is not
possible, unless Putin is forced to open his eyes to the tragedy happening in Syria for the past 2 years to now, and will continue on if the syrian
people is not given better help to end the bloodshed once and for all.

Terrorist groups usually do want to work alone. It's kind of hard to kill your own people and make it look like military did it with foreigners
around isn't it? Why should Putin be forced to open his eyes to whats going on in Syria? America has had it's eyes closed to what's been happening
in Palestine for six decades now and no one has complained about that.

Let us all keep our fingers crossed that the WMDs are not unleashed by the animal Assad or by the Jihadists, and that the Free Syrian People can
topple the beast alone. If the Free Syrian People failed as they had no military support, or the WMDs are unleashed - even trillions of dollars CANNOT
buy back precious human lives, as each human life is precious and means something special to another.......

Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
He WANTS the military weakened. he stated before the '08 election that he didn't trust them, and wanted a "civilian security force. He also
stated he would "stand with" the Muslims.

S&F.

The only way to stop US military adventures* (AKA state-sponsored-terrorism) is to turn off the empire. We need to shut down our foreign bases, bring
our troops home and cut funding for the military AND military-industrial complex by 95%. Then we need to cut funding for DHS by 100%.

History has provided us with clear lessons for what happens when the military and "secret police" types get out of control. We are almost out of
time.

* across many, many types of battlefields -- US political, NATO, UN, IMF, World Bank and others

Originally posted by buster2010
So now the rebels are a terror group? And how many people will really get upset with this? Remember how they cheered when Romney said he would arm the
rebels even after the ties with Al-Qaeda had been shown. We need to cut off everyone over there and bring our people home.

Everything goes haywire when president
Black Panther 1* does the very thing the republicans cheered for the day before.

Shifty shady unfounded thread titles, like this one, are read & accepted as fact.
Then those in the bubble move on, satisfied that Obama is a terrorist & kitten drowning president.
Why? because it said so right there.
Makes me CRAZY....

*Black Panther 1 will also be the new name for Air-Force 1...
after Obama's secret plan is hatched and he's into a term less dictatorship.

Can you all admit your full of **it and just personally hate him?
It would make actual history so much easier to follow.

Originally posted by DarknStormy
How the hell can they openly admit that terrorists are operating in Syria yet send them all this money at the same time after everything the US have
been through over the last decade or so? This should be an insult to every Westerner and all this proves is that when Assad was crying about terrorism
in his country, he was 100% right. This is against international law and how the rest of the world can sit back and do nothing is beyond me. 80-90,000
dead and counting and all we can do is keep pumping up the terrorists while the likes of the UN sit quietly? Zero credibility and they should be
dismantled as one of the biggest political failures in history.

Yes their are terrorist operatiing in Syria. They want to take out Assad and the Syria Rebels. The West does not want the terrorist to take out the
Rebels and take over the country when Assad falls. It is really very simple. If the West does nothing to support the Rebels more Syrians will be
angry with the West and back the radicals. Of course the Islamist did not come along until a good chuck of the Syrian Army had gone over to the
rebels. When it was Assad having his guy shoot unarmed protesters they were no where to be found. They do however know how to try and take advantage
of a situation.

As for the money? Well we all know the sequester spelled out in detail where money was to be cut. It was done this way and agreed to by both parties
so they would be so painful it would never hapoen. The money set aside for foreign aid going to the rebels can not go to the military according the
law both parties agreed on.

Originally posted by buster2010
Seeing how the military has been acting lately I really don't trust them that much either.

Interesting...

Originally posted by buster2010
The rape and murders of innocent people over there has been inexcusable.

I am intrigued - perhaps you should make a thread on this? In fact as I understand it there were more rapes in New York, LA, Detroit, New Orleans and
Chicago last night in America than have been committed by American Servicemen since the conflict in Afghanistan began.

As for "murder" same thing. There are crimes and Soldiers (Marines, Airmen and Sailors too) commit them sure. The military is a cross section and
representation of American society. In fact having been involved in recruiting and retention at a very high level I know that the Army for one
mirrors statistically (almost identically) the demographic make-up of our society as a whole.

One would think that while the above is true being staffed with a disproportionate mix of men in the 18-23 year old age group who have the highest
crime rates in America that given all the rules and regulation in the military there would be a larger proportion of "crimes" committed by this
subset of the population.

Even if you count non-judicial charges and actions for all offences (ranging from being late to work and other minor infractions) along with actual
court martial offences up to and including murder and rape the military "crime" rate is lower than that of American society.

This is shocking to me considering that this subset of people are highly armed, very well trained (to be aggressive) and usually under a great deal of
family and professional stress along with their daily risk of life and limb. This combination of factors might tend to push these people (young men
mostly) who are either close to or on the edge - right over it....

I would be interested to see what facts you have that indicate that US military personnel have a high (or even close to) incidence of violent crime
charges than American society in general.

Originally posted by buster2010
What's wrong with him saying he stands with Muslims? Are you saying that almost two billion Muslims should be viewed as the enemy because of the
actions of a few?

It is poor choice of wording by a leader who represents 310 million Americans who happen to associate the supposed "religion of peace" with the
radical element who commits terrorism against our citizens. He could have said it more clearly to make it sound less inclusive of the entire
religion - excluded the radical elements who embrace Jihad and terrorism against the US.

He has no problem attacking all gun owners for the actions of a few irresponsible ones…why does Islam get a pass in this regard?

Seems to me that if he believes the common theme in gun crime is guns and that the guns therefore need to be registered, monitored, regulated and
controlled then the with the most common theme of terrorism being the “religion of peace” then perhaps we should register, monitor, regulate and
control those who practice it?

You know if we could do something, anything – to save one life we must do it. I say limiting/restricting the immigration of men of fighting age
from nations associated with radical Islamic fundamentalism it would go far to saving lives. At least they should be subjected to a very thorough
background check – I mean who could be against background checks. If they have nothing to hide?

Through action taken by the General Assembly and the Security Council, Member States are not only creating and strengthening the legal foundations
of the fight against terrorism but also taking practical measures of cooperation to restrict terrorists in their actions by denying them the financial
means for their actions, denying them their freedom to move about to commit their acts and denying them the weapons to use in committing terrorist
acts.

The International Convention for Suppression of Terrorist Financing requests all countries ratifying the convention to deny all financial
possibilities to potential terrorists. Security Council resolution 1373 makes it mandatory for all states to eliminate the financing of terrorism,
while resolution 1267 along with subsequent related resolutions freeze all the financial assets of Al Qaida and Taliban associates. Both those
resolutions call for strict travel bans against potential terrorists.

Subsequent Security Council resolutions also place Al Qaida and Taliban members under a strict arms embargo. The recently concluded International
Convention for the Suppression of Nuclear Terrorism aims to prevent potential terrorists from acquiring nuclear weapons while resolution 1540 of the
Security Council creates a mandatory set of measures for countries to implement in order to prevent terrorists from acquiring weapons of mass
destruction.

Though I understand the USA are not sending terrorists into Syria, they are funding them and it doesn't matter whether the money is going to what some
would call the "FSA", it will still reach the extremists. Now this doesn't just apply to the USA sending money to fighters in Syria, this works with
everyone who have contributed in one way or another. Who has opened their borders to allow these murderers to invade? The UN is a joke. If the UN and
their members cannot help when it comes to terrorism in Syria, they need to stay away fullstop and let the country work itself out.

If this was Iran sending money and fighters to the Gulf States, there would be international outrage. What, because Syria are an independant country
who can take care of themselves they don't deserve the security of the United nations and the international community? Give me a break... There are
worse dictatorships in the Middle East who have protesters getting beaten and killed even now and where is our support to those people? We are nothing
but hypocrites and people need to wake up to themselves. We are funding a genocide (Another one).

I am intrigued - perhaps you should make a thread on this? In fact as I understand it there were more rapes in New York, LA, Detroit, New Orleans and
Chicago last night in America than have been committed by American Servicemen since the conflict in Afghanistan began.

When did we forcibly invade New York, LA, Detroit, New Orleans and Chicago? Because there were more rapes here in America that makes it ok for it to
happen over there?

As for "murder" same thing. There are crimes and Soldiers (Marines, Airmen and Sailors too) commit them sure. The military is a cross section and
representation of American society. In fact having been involved in recruiting and retention at a very high level I know that the Army for one mirrors
statistically (almost identically) the demographic make-up of our society as a whole.

And you are full of it. Our military is mainly made up of middle class and poor. Sorry but that doesn't mirror our statistics of a nation as a
whole.

Even if you count non-judicial charges and actions for all offenses (ranging from being late to work and other minor infractions) along with actual
court martial offenses up to and including murder and rape the military "crime" rate is lower than that of American society.

Yes because rape has always been swept under the carpet in the military.

This is shocking to me considering that this subset of people are highly armed, very well trained (to be aggressive) and usually under a great deal of
family and professional stress along with their daily risk of life and limb. This combination of factors might tend to push these people (young men
mostly) who are either close to or on the edge - right over it....

I don't care what kind of stress they are under. Nothing excuses the rape or murder of innocent people.

I would be interested to see what facts you have that indicate that US military personnel have a high (or even close to) incidence of violent crime
charges than American society in general.

Crime is swept under the carpet in the military so much it's not even funny. And if the real stats were to get out it would make the military look
bad can't have that now.

He has no problem attacking all gun owners for the actions of a few irresponsible ones…why does Islam get a pass in this regard?

One is a religion the other is a government given right. Can you tell the difference between the two?

Seems to me that if he believes the common theme in gun crime is guns and that the guns therefore need to be registered, monitored, regulated and
controlled then the with the most common theme of terrorism being the “religion of peace” then perhaps we should register, monitor, regulate and
control those who practice it?

You buy a gun you don't buy a belief.

You know if we could do something, anything – to save one life we must do it. I say limiting/restricting the immigration of men of fighting age from
nations associated with radical Islamic fundamentalism it would go far to saving lives. At least they should be subjected to a very thorough
background check – I mean who could be against background checks. If they have nothing to hide?

We should do checks on everyone not just certain people because of where they come from. The only people who would accept that are racist. Just as if
you had someone from another nation coming to visit you then you wouldn't mind a background check on you would you?

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