Thinkpad-Samsung or Lenovo-Samsung NVMe SSD? What is this?

Q:Thinkpad-Samsung or Lenovo-Samsung NVMe SSD? What is this?

In this discussion, Amy from Lenovo recommends that we purchase Lenovo SSDs if we want thermal management: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-P-and-W-Series-Mobile/Can-I-add-a-Samsung-950-Pro-NVMe-SSD-to-... The link no longer directs us to a particular model. So I perform a search on the Lenovo site and see (among others) this model: ThinkPad 256GB SAMSUNG PCIe NVME TLC OPAL M.2 SSD http://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/accessories-and-monitors/memory-and-storage/storage/HDD-BO-ThinkPad-M-2... What is this? A Samsung SSD rebranded as a Lenovo SSD? Would I gain in compatibility with such a drive or not, and specifically regarding thermal management? Also, is there a misprint below concerning the read speed? "ThinkPad 256GB SAMSUNG PCIe NVME TLC OPAL M.2 SSD supporting PCIe 3.0 interface standard up to 4 lanes shows much faster performance than previous SATA SSDs. It's sequential performance is up to 300MB/s for read operation and 1700MB/s for write operation by 4 lanes. Test-Prove 100% Compatible with ThinkPad machines. " That has to be 3000MB/S, right?

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Thinkpad-Samsung or Lenovo-Samsung NVMe SSD? What is this?

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Hello I have already tried yo add an Samsung 970 Evo (NVMe) but is failed with error 2104. When I talked with helpdesk on Lenovo they told me that wasn´t compatible. I wonder if the Samsung 970 Evo Pro. Or should I use a older model for example Samsung 960 Evo Pro.

I have two Samsung NVMe 950 Pro (MZVKV512) that came preinstalled in a Lenovo ThinkPad P50 running Windows 10 x64. The Samsung Magician (latest v4.9.6) software does not detect the drives as Samsung Brand SSDs and therefore OS Optimization is unavailable (the only option is to run a benchmark). Samsung Magician supports this SSD as I can see users in other forums using the software on their systems (not necessarily Lenovo). I have also installed the Samsung NVMe Controller driver and this is showing in Device Manager. There are no system updates available and UEFI BIOS is up to date (version from the 4th May). Any ideas?

Hello, I will get a new laptop ThinkPad L570 from my company. It will have a standard SATA3 256GB SSD installed.I want to upgrade the laptop and want to install a "Samsung 960 EVO MZ-V6E1T0BW NVMe SSD (1TB)". Question 1: How does the SATA connector of the 2,5'' main storage tray looks like? Is it a SATA Express (SATAe) connector? Does it look like this?Does the SATA Express connector look like this? With this nose/nibble in the middle?Question 2: Will it be possible to run a Samsung 960 EVO NVMe SSD 1TB in the L570? I know it will not have the full speed, because the L570 only provides 2 lanes PCIe 3.0, but this would be okay for me. Question 3: Where can I get the Lenovo adapter/converter/tray (SATA Express to M.2 NVMe), if this adapter was missing in my delivered L570, because there was installed only a standard 2,5'' SATA SSD? I searched the whole internet for it, no luck. Question 4: DeLock has some adpaters for M.2/NVMe (http://www.delock.de/produkte/1097_SATA-Express/62786/merkmale.html?setLanguage=en), but I don't know if the adapter would fit into the L570. There is a little "block" (red arrows in the below picture) in the middle of the adapter connector which doesn't fit to the connector image from the top. And furthermore this Delock adapter is 9,5mm in height instead of 7mm:This litle "block" will not fit into the SATA Express connector of the L570, or?Can I use this DeLock adapter in my L570 and will the Samsung 860 EVO run via... Read more

I am attempting to upgrade my L570 with the subject M.2 drive. I have the tray and cable necessary. When I put it all together, no hard drive shows up in the computer. Tech support won't help since the 960 EVO isn't on the Lenovo parts list. The support agent didn't say they were incompatible, but he did intimate that. Any ideas on how to make this work?

Hi guys,I just bought the T580 with their cheapest SATA HDD so that I can upgrade myself, but I realise that there's not an M.2 slot available for the upgrade drive (Samsung 960 Pro).I did a little bit of research, and I found these FRU's:01YR457 Tachi-2(20L9/20LA/20LB/20LC) M.2 Adapter ASM for Tachi,TC-201YR466 Tachi-2(20L9/20LA/20LB/20LC) M.2 Adapter Cable,TC-2I can't find a place where to source these. Can anybody point me in the right direction?Thank you in advance.

Hi guys, I bought the T570 with their cheapest SATA HDD so that I can clone it and upgrade myself, but once I popped open the back, I found that there's not an M.2 slot available for the upgrade drive (Samsung 960 Pro). According to the manual, https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1240407/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T570.html?page=139#manual, I need a converter of some sort, which I presume replaces the SATA cable and the mount for the much smaller form factor drive. I found this http://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/accessories/memory-and-storage/storage/HDD-BO-ThinkPad-M-2-SSD-Tray/p/4..., but it has 0 information on whether it's compatible with the T570, and whether this is what I need in the first place. Can someone help? Has anyone done this already? Can I pick it up somewhere so that I don't have to wait 5-7 days for it to arrive? I also have a 3-year NBD support contract, but after calling support, I am told they can't just come bring the part. Thank you in advance.

For several months, I have had Samsung Magician 4.97 installed on my P70's Windows 7 and Windows 10 boot drives -- both are original Lenovo-suppled and installed 512 GB Samsung NVMe drives. This utility offered limited functionality, simply recognizing the drives and allowing them to be benchmarked, tested and described but nothing else. No ability to update firmware, adjust caching or over-provision the drives. Moreover, Lenovo has previously not responded to my posted queries regarding how to update the firmware on these units, as they are out of sync -- one of the devices has a much older rev. level than the other and I dare not try to set-up a RAID array under these conditions. I was hoping the newly released Ver. 5.00 of Magician would remedy this. However, circumstances have become worse, as the utility does not even "see" the two NVMe drives. Does anyone else have experience with 5.00 or a potential fix to the firmware update issue? Any insights or opinions would be appreciated.

I got a Samsung 960 EVO 250Gb SSD and after I set it on my Lenovo V330 and try to install windows 10 pro. System doesn´t recognize that hard disk. After I put the older SSD also from Samsung I didn´t have problems to be recognized and continue using windows.Somebody can help me how to set that SSD on that Laptop? or how to recognize that SSD has a problem. Unfortunately I don´t have and cable adapter to set and install windows 10 from usb

Hello Friends. I successfully installed a Samsung 950 Pro M.2 SSD as a boot drive just fine. However, it looks like the Windows 10 NVME driver is being used in place of the Samsung NVME driver. I saw this post here where it says: "Windows is indicating it is using the NVMe driver for this drive." https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Hardware-and-Upgrade-Questions/Envy-750se-capable-of-M-2-NVMe-... However I do not know how to determine this myself. I am using a utility called "AIDA64 Extreme" and it's telling me the driver provider for the 950 is Micrososft and the driver version is 10.0.14393.0. So, how do I get the 950 to use the Samsung driver instead? Thanks for any help.

A:How to tell if Samsung 950 Pro is using Samsung NVME driver ...

Hi, From Samsung tool (Samsung Magician), it shows my machine uses Samsung firmware, no information about driver. It uses Microsoft driver. The tool allows use to check and update firmware but not driver. Regards.

I have just purchased a new Dell XPS 8920 that comes configured with a 250GB NVMe M2 drive as the boot drive and I?d like to replace this with a Samsung 1TB 960 Pro MVMe M2 drive however I can find no way to load the Dell OS Recovery in a way that it can see the new disk and load Windows 10. BIOS sees the drive, but not the recovery tool. Has anyone got any suggestions or tried to do this?

Microsoft has released NVMe Hotfixes 2990941 & 3087873 that add native NVMe drivers to Windows 7.
However if I am say installing Windows 7 SP1 on say Samsung NVme drive and Samsung has released suitable drivers in the form of INF, SYS and CAT files, do I really need to integrate these MS Hotfixes in Windows 7?
Can Windows 7 SP1 supplied with Samsung NVMe drivers (Either slip streamed or during install) be able to detect Samsung NVMe drive and install itself on to it?
As the title says are those MS Hotfixes a must (sort of pre-requsite) to get NVMe drive detected during installation, apart from any vendor provided drivers?
Thanks.

I have problem with new SDD Samsung 850 Pro 500 GB in my Yoga P40. My computer has all drivers, new Windows 10 pro with all updates and latest firmware SDD but transfer is slow (ca. 250 MB/s). Program SAMSUNG MAGICIAL show information Sata 3 is available! but mode RAPID can't start. Whan I have tried this disk in diffent computer (normal PC,not laptop) everything is ok (transfer ca. 500 MB/s). Old SSD in my laptop (Plextor PX-128M6Pro) has normal transfer. Where is the problem?

I want to upgrade my Lenovo ThinkPad to the Sanmsung 860 EVO M.2 SATA but I am not sure if it's compitable or if it's the best SSD that would offer me 500GB to 1TB. Would I need to upgrade other parts of the ThinkPad when I install the 860 EVO, or would this be just fine. Thank you for your time

Hi, When i tried to install the above-specified Samsung RAM in T430, the system gets restarted automatically before the completion of switch on process. I checked the sam RAM with 2 systems, Both were T430 (one was windows 7 and the other one was windows 10) Please help me with this. Thank you in advance

I own a Lavie Z 360, model 20FF0022US with a 5th gen i7. I came with a 250GB, but I would like to upgrade to a Samsung 960 EVO Series - 1TB PCIe NVMe - M.2 Internal SSD (MZ-V6E1T0BW). Will this laptop work, or am I limied to m.2 non-NVMe drives? Thanls,Dave

I have a samsung 950 pro I am trying to install into my brand new Inspiron 15 7000 (7559) laptop. There was a 128gb M2 in the slot, but it is too small for my programs. I thought the greater speed of the 950 would be nice along with more storage.The computer does not recognize the drive at all and I have searched and read until my eyes bleed and can't find any reason it should not (or should) work on this machine.This is the Skylake version, the specs from Speccy say the PCIe lanes is x16. Here is a screenshot of my mobo.Has anyone had success with this in the Inspiron? I have updated the Bios to 1.0.3. What am I missing? No matter what I read and try this drive is not showing in bios, computer management, nowhere. Is the drive defective??

A:Samsung 950 Pro M2 NVMe not found

I tried the same with similar results using a Samsung 951 NVMe PCIe 3.0, expecting the Skylake Chipset that support it (checked Intel HM170 before buying) to work..In fact I found out later is that only SATA III is supported on this machine, so no PCIe NVMe! Unbelievable as chipset should be able to and PCIe is way forward, hope it can be fixed with bios update still somehow. Can't keep my hopes up so I am selling my 951 PCIe!

I recently installed a Samsung 960 Pro M.2 NVMe on the motherboard and migrated the OS from the existing HHD. I disconnected the HHD and the computer booted up and was operating normally with the M.2. However, when I went to install the Samsung M.2 NVMe controller and the Samsung Magician software, both programs indicated that the Samsung M.2 was not connected. I called Samsung and the technician informed me that the only time the system won't recognize the M.2 is if the BIOS is set to RAID. He informed me that the computer would probably not boot up if I reset the BIOS to AHCI and I would have to perform a clean install of the OS. Both circumstances were true. Dell ships their computers with the BIOS set to RAID if it has a conventional hard drive!

A:Adding Samsung M.2 NVMe SSD

There are ways to switch from RAID to AHCI without reinstalling -- that said DO NOT try without a complete backup of the system (or that fallback image -- you can always revert to RAID if it fails to work).triplescomputers.com/.../

Hello guys,I need some help.. I'm planning to buy Samsung SSD Pro 960 M.2 NVMe. Is it usable on my HP Z820 /the BIOS is J63 v03.91/ ?I know that there is no M.2 slot on the motherboard, so I would need to use some adapter like Asus Hyper M.2 x4 Mini.I've read here that some people succeeded with adding Samsung Pro 950 via Asus Hyper M.2 x4 Mini on HP Z620.I won't use the SSD as OS boot drive. Just I have heavy projects and need much faster loading.Thank you in advance, folks!

I have read about 100 different explanations of this process all fraught with scary changes to BIOS and difficulties installing windows from scratch on the card from a sd card. I have a Dell xps 8910 with built in m.2 slot in mb. Currently using slow hdd.

I wanted to ask if this procedure would work.. Please correct my errors

1 Boot into safe mode from MSCONFIG. Hit f2 and go into bios and change from RAID to AHCI. Continue to boot into safe mode. run MSCONFIG again and set to normal boot. Now reboot computer. It should now be AHCI ready for ssd.

2 Shut off everything and unplug all peripherals then install the M.2 card in the empty M.2 slot. (BTW, is there already a screw in the hole on the MB so I can screw down the card after installation) Will I have to open the interior metal "cage" to access the m.2 slot)?

3 Boot back into Windows using the HDD as the boot disk. Will the SSD be recognized as present and empty? I hope.

4. Use the free Intel data migration tool to clone the ssd from the HDD. Shut down.

5 Open up the computer again and unplug the HDD leaving it in place but unplugged from power and sata.

6 Boot up computer. The SSD should be recognized as the boot disk right? or do I have to do something in Bios?

Before I start, is this a Samsung M2 or a Intel M2 ? I looked at step 10 and said ? Since I've never used the Intel tool, but I do know its from Acronis, Intel may lock out any other none Intel M2 drives. And this could be a problem that you want to avoid. If its an Intel M2 no problem.

In step 6 - You probably will need to change the boot sequence so that the M2 drive is first in line otherwise the system will want to boot from your HDD which is not installed. NOTE: This needs to be done before you replace your HDD.

Then you should be happy.

PS: I have not seen a USB to M2 external connection. If you where installing a standard SATA attached SSD, they do make them for that configuration.

Hello guys,I need some help.. I'm planning to buy Samsung SSD Pro 960 M.2 NVMe. Is it usable on my HP Z820 /the BIOS is J63 v03.91/ ?I know that there is no M.2 slot on the motherboard, so I would need to use some adapter like Asus Hyper M.2 x4 Mini.I've read here that some people succeeded with adding Samsung Pro 950 via Asus Hyper M.2 x4 Mini on HP Z620.I won't use the SSD as OS boot drive. Just I have heavy projects and need much faster loading.Thank you in advance, folks!

I couldn't find any information in the manuals or only product information but from other people on forums on the internet it seemed they were able to get the Samsung NVMe M.2 SSD to work. Mine is 500Gb. I can't seem to get the BIOS to recognize it at all. Any Help?

Yoga 3 Pro can i installing Samsung 979 or 960 NVMe M.2 SSD (2280) ??? is there support in this notebook (Yoga3Pro) in motherboard have M-key Slot so i was try but its not show in bios (Bios is Last A6CN58WW) M-Key SSD

I'm trying exactly what you're describing with no luck so far. Windows installation sees the drive and installs without error. However, when I reboot the machine will not see the drive to boot from. This thread seems to indicate it should be possible, but three of the last four entries describe the same situation Im in where the machine simply won't boot.

I want to install a Samsung 960 EVO - 500GB PCIe NVMe - M.2 SSD as the primary boot drive of my P70. Can someone please confirm this newly released SSD from Samsung is compatible with the P70. Seems like Amazon is sold out so I'll need to finnd this drive elsewhere to order. https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-960-PRO-Internal-MZ-V6P1T0BW/dp/B01LXS4TYB/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qi...

While I found many posts for other products for this brand I can't seem to find any reliable information regarding nvme ssd support for V5-591G. Currently I'm using a Samsung 850 PRO 512GB with my operating systems and my data on it and I've been using 500GB external USB 3.0 HDDs for persistent storage. Since my USB 3.0 data transfer rates are extremely low - as it seems of a windows driver issue - I'm looking for alternatives. Lately I've been thinking of getting an NVME drive and have both my win 10 and fedora installed on it while leaving my storage for my 2.5" ssd and the external drives only as backups, copied onto them regularly.So, can I safely buy a 950 PRO nvme SSD from samsung and boot from it in UEFI mode without major issues? I found a similar question but that was for VN7 and a bit older (1.5Gbps capped). Thanks for your helps!Cheers and happy weeked for you!

A:V5-591G nvme support (Samsung 950 pro)

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2899351/everything-you-need-to-know-about-nvme.htmlHere's a thread on nvme support on VN7-592G-71ZL in Nov. http://community.acer.com/t5/V-and-VN-Series-Laptops/Why-is-the-M2-PCIE-slot-speed-capped-to-1-5GBs-...No new bios for V5-591G since Oct.

Yoga 3 Pro can i installing Samsung 970 or 960 NVMe M.2 SSD (2280) ??? is there support in this notebook (Yoga3Pro) in motherboard have M-key Slot so i was try but its not show in bios (Bios is Last A6CN58WW) M-Key SSD

I have a new 7710 that came with a 256GB NVMe SSD. I have upgraded it to a Samsung 950 Pro 512. I am using Windows 10 UEFI.I have a question on the bios setting. Should it be AHCI or RAID. The machine came default with RAID On and came with Win 10 Pro pre-installed.Currently I switched it to ACHI, used the MS Download and installed Win 10 Pro. Once in windows, I installed all the dell drivers and also the Samsung NVMe driver.I have read on different forums that the bios setting should be RAID, but also read it should be AHCI. Question: Which should it be. Is one better than the other? Or is it just that if in AHCI, it will use the MS NVMe Driver (or Samsung NVMe Driver) and if in RAID, it will use the Intel IRST drivers?I assume if AHCI like I have it, then I can use the Samsung NVMe Driver. I have read if not in AHCI, the Samsung NVMe Driver will not install. If I switch to RAID, then I would need to use the Intel Rapid Storage Tech (IRST) Driver and not the samsung driver (I read samsung driver will not install if AHCI).So I am confused if one is better than the other (AHCI or Raid).FYI, I have been using for around 10 days and no BSOD due to the PCIe NVMe drive.

A:Precision 7710 and Samsung NVMe 950 Pro

I own a Precision 7510 and am in the same situation. I did exactly the same except that I left the BIOS setting to Raid ON. When in Raid ON the Samsung Magician can only do the following:

Disk drive information for all installed disks. Particularly with the NVMe drive S.M.A.R.T. is not functioning even though it should be. All other drives display S.M.A.R.T. correctly.Performance Benchmark. Only this function is selectable. All other functions are not available. Probably because the Intel Rapid Storage Techonlogy driver is loaded and not the Samsung NVMe

From performance view it seems pretty fast. Today I am going to change the BIOS setting to AHCI and I will share my results.

Hello, I bought my P50 in October 2016. It has a SAMSUNG 961 OEM NVMe SSD (SAMSUNG MZVKW1T0HMLH-0000). The Firmware version is CXA7100Q (the drive shipped with this firmware). Since a few weeks I'm experiencing slow performance issues (Windows 10 Pro, 1803). Reinstalling didn't help. There have been some throttling issues as well which is a known bug of the firmware my drive has:https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/samsung-sm961-ssd,4608-5.html. This issue has been resolved in a later firmware version. There are newer firmware versions out (the latest at the time of this writing seems to be 7L6QCXA7) but the P50 NVMe Firmware update utility does not include this firmware for the 1 TB version of this drive (only for models up to 512 MB). Is there any way to obtain the latest firmware for the 1TB version/are there any plans to include the 1 TB model firmware in one of the upcoming FWNVxx firmware update utility versions for the P50 model? Regards, Marcel

I possess both the Intel 750 400gb NVMe and the Samsung 950 Pro. Both of them can install Win 8.1 and 10 without problems, but I would need to use Windows 7.

What I tried so far:
-Created a bootable USB drive with Rufus.
-Created another usb with the Samsung NVMe drivers on it.
-Removed all the other drives from the system.
-Removed the "secure boot" option from the bios.

The problems are the following:
-My Win 7 iso is x64, but when I try to create a bootable usb with Rufus in GPT, it says that the ISO file is Larger than 4Gb so I cannot select FAT32.
-If I use MBR partition scheme the installation does not even load when I reboot, saying "insert media disk".
-If I create a bootable usb with the Windows 7 USB DVD tool, the installation starts but fails to accept the NVMe drivers, saying "they are not signed".

I read several threads and don't know exactly what I am missing here. I know there is the possibility to install Win 7 onto a standard ssd (I also have a 850 Pro so I could use that one) and then clone it to the 950, but if possible would prefer sticking with a normal installati... Read more

A:Installing Win7 x64 on Samsung 950 Pro NVMe

The fact that the drivers are refused as unsigned is concerning. Where did you get them?

Best guess is that you need to integrate certain updates (in particular there is an NVMe update, and some driver framework updates) into the install images.

Hi Tech Geeks, I just purchased Thinkpad workstation P50. Here is my Custom configuration from Lenovo website:Processor: Intel Xeon E3-1505M v5 Processor (8MB Cache, up to 3.70GHz)Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64Memory: 64GB(16x4) DDR4 2133MHz SoDIMMGraphic Card: NVIDIA Quadro M2000M 4GBM.2 slot Storage 0: 256GB SSD SATA3 OPAL2.0 M.2 slot Storage 1: Nothing2.5 Inch Sata Drive slot: Nothing<I will upgrade all the storage with faster and larger capacity ssd's> I read somewhere that to be able ro configure my P50 in raid-0 , I should order it in lenovo for the RAIDCARD to be added on motherboard if not RAID-0 is not possible for my laptop. Is this information legit? ( I really hope this is not true)I ordered my P50 not in RAID 0 to save money, since I am planning to upgrade it with the upcoming Samsung 960 PRO. My Question 2nd Question is, If RAID-0 is possible Can I configure the 2xM.2 slots in RAID-0 using 2x1TB Samsung 960 PRO PCIE SSD? Is there will be compatibility issue with the connecting ports/motherboard? I read somewhere that P50 does not support Samsung NVME SSD and recommended to use their own NVME. I saw some users that install Samsung P50 in their machines, but other users says that it is not recommended since it will cause harm with the samsung SSD since it is not supported by the motherboard? I just configured and ordered my P50 in lenovo US website last friday (Nov 25) and will be ship on D... Read more

I've seen from previous Dell-site that xps 8920 has been sold with 256 GB ssd pcie x4 dysk?!What does "dysk" mean?What type of ssd has that been?Where has it been installed?Is there a different bios-version for these PCs vs ones without ssd and only having a 32GB ssd cache onboard?

If successfully able ti install Samsung 960 (with OS and other programs onboard it) is there any use of still having the 32GB ssd cache to remain on the motherboards m2-place? Hence to still be directed to speed up the hdd as is now? Or can the ssd cache only function as intended if the OS is also on the drive to which the ssd-drive is directed to?

On the motherboard there are an m2-slot but Ive heard that this only supports sata-format and is not applicable for the nvme/pcie format?!