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Ash has USED the field to his advatage before. Like Grovyle at Winona's Gym and on Drake's boat. Honestly, he's forgotten a strategy he used himself. Tell me Ash hasn't gotten brain damage from being zapped one too many times.

Some people don't think it's funny that Exit 69 gets off on Big Beaver.

It didn't evolve. Serebii has the pics up, and they definitively confirm what most of us already know. Or are you saying it might evolve soon. But not next episode, because we know what happens in that one.

Soon of course...LOL! I don't want my butt to be flamed already, ha ha!
But hopefully soon for a Corphy evo!

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I loved Corphish v Crawdaunt!
near the end when Crawdaunt looked happy could that be the end of the Crawdaunt sterio type team Aqua created?

Dragonair needed to be shown more, otherwise the title should have been something like 'The Green Lake of Crawdaunt'......

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I could just picture Yamato-san getting ready to shoot himself if it is Hydro Pump. Still, the blasted terapin is as bad as that Paras way back when. One victory and suddenly it's a super hero.

Oh please, kill myself? Yeah right.

[***** a rifle and aims it forward.]

I'd just hunt me down a few writers.

[Sets the rifle down.]

Fortunately, that thing didn't learn Hydro P.... Waaaaait a minute!

[Picks up the rifle.]

This episode still displeases me.

[***** rifle again.]

How the f*** does that damn thing, which played like no role in the episode up to the Rocket Dan battle (unless you consider stopping to sniff a flower to be an important scene), suddenly becomes more of a hero against Rocket Dan than Heigani, a Pokemon that this episode mostly focused around and whom you'd expect to have more of a beef against Rocket Dan for kidnapping his opponent? And it gets off learning a new technique on top of it all.

[Sets rifle down.]

Lousy bas****s.... I'm letting them off this time since it only learned a rather weak technique in its natural movepool. Should it have pulled another very powerful TM out of its a**..... heh heh heh heeeeh, you do not wanna know what hells I'd unleash. It's also a bit relieving that Rocket Dan was defeated with a combination of Zenigame, Heigani, and Numacraw's attacks rather than just Zenigame. But, if learning a new technique is an indication that it's, once again, gonna appear in a contest soon, I'm gonna be p***ed.

I thought this episode would've been great simply for Hakuryuu making an appearance, but I was wrong. They shoved it to like 5 seconds near the end, in somewhat of a rehash of the Safari Zone warden's plot no less (a dragon that the filler character recognizes as a child rescues someone from drowning). And are you guys serious? Satoshi was trying to learn about using the field to his advantage? OK, I'm also getting sick of this crap being done to Satoshi during some fillers. Speaking of Satoshi looking like a n00b, did anyone else find it a little off that he sends Heigani against its evolved form, and his strategy only consisted of countering the opponent using the same attack as them? Considering how much more powerful the evolution would be expected to be, you'd think Satoshi would come up with a more clever plan to take it down, wouldn't you?

Originally Posted by Gravy

I wasn't really too fond of this episode for some reason. I mean, the fighting was ok and it was nice to see a CG attack that actually looks pretty decent (Acid Armour) but there was something lacking. I'm not sure what it was exactly, but it wasn't there, thats for sure~

You thought Acid Armor looked good too, eh?

Speaking of the Showers that used Acid Armor, I found it a bit interesting how they gave it a trait to walk on water (isn't there an entry mentioning something like that in one of the games?). However.... did anyone notice that Scissoriger was standing on the water surface at some point? What the hell, did all water-types suddenly gain this ability, or is it still a trait exclusive to Showers and someone just made an error with Scissoriger?

Last edited by Yamato-san; 21st November 2005 at 9:13 PM.

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I forgot about Corphish. The little guy, upstaged by a uber n00b. I swear. The writer who developed May should have been fired for making such a spotlight hogging ditz who seems to have everything go her way.

Some people don't think it's funny that Exit 69 gets off on Big Beaver.

You got that right, Big Al. I just can't stand the way Haruka got everything way to easy. They shoul have the mutant turtle into a turtle soup when Haruka first got it, then poisoned Haruka and bury her. Just Kidding about Haruka, but I do hate the that mutant squirtle.

I'd get confirmation on Satoshi's actual words before condemning the writers for having him be naive about using the battlefield to one's advantage. More often than not the times he's seemed to have forgotten something important it is only because of bad dubbing, while the original made more sense. Therefore I will await what was really said.

One question though, what was with the Dragonair rescuing scenes? Why did the old woman go down to help both times? There just didn't seem to be much point to her being down there.

And why did the old man think that chasing away other Pokemon would cause Dragonair to appear?

I really don't get the Squirtle hate here. It uses a fairly weak move (did it really say in the episode it just learned it, or was this just the first time it was used? ) that fails to stop TR, thus showing a still has a good deal of growing to do. Then it, Marshstomp and Corphish make a cool combo to deal a more powerful blow. Corphish is still the star of the episode.

But Corphish should have been the one to do a Superman through TR's mech. Instead it's the blasted turtle. It should just disappear for a dozen episodes or more because I've about had it (which is saying a lot because Squirtle is one of my favorite Pokemon lines). And as Yamato-san said, it's a sign that evil terapin will one again darken a contest battle with its presence.

Some people don't think it's funny that Exit 69 gets off on Big Beaver.

there's also the fact that Zenigame was the one who consulted Heigani about the idea of hurling it up to Rocket Dan. Yup, just eeeeeverything is that turtle's doing. Like The Big Al said, aside from hating Zenigame due to previous incidents involving it, it p***es us all off that it suddenly started to turn into the big, show-offey hero and upstage everyone, despite the episode not having any previous focus towards it.

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Not a bad episode if I do say so. I'm still annoyed at the writers for making these titles sound so damn much like they're referring to the first season, but that has nothing to do with the episode itself, so... yeah.

Anyway, yay for Heigani. Aside from Heracross, and maybe Fushigidane, he's probably my favorite of Satoshi's pokémon, so it was great to see him get some decent spotlight. On the flip side, I wish Zenigame would just die already.

It's pretty cool to see Hakuryuu again, since iirc the last time it was featured was all the way back in the Fusube Gym arc. And I thought the use of music from the fourth movie was nice.

I also don't completely see the reasoning behind all this Squritle-hate going on...it's a little random that it came outta nowhere this episode and stole the spotlight during the TR battle, but Corphish still got the focus for the entire rest of the episode...the episode was very water Pokemon based in general (Crawdaunt, Vaporeon, Marshtomp, Corphish, all the wild water Poke cameos..and hell, "Lake" was in the title), so Squirtle going all heroic wasn't totally uncalled for

I'm glad to see Squirtle learning more attacks and growing useful...when May first got it I was afraid it would remain all weak and crybaby-ish all season, but no, May's training it to become a decent fighter and formidable contest Pokemon....playing hero this time around and offering a useful attack suggestion against TR should gain it some respect among the other Pokemon and the viewing audience, for that matter

...but yea, Marshtomp showing up was definitely a highlight for me here...I was def terrified that thing would stay in its Pokeball forever once it evolved (a la Brock's Ludicolo...which had maybe 2-3 post-evolution appearances)

The thing is Haruka hasn't done any real training with it at all. She's used it in two battles prior to this episode (three if you count it pulling ice beam out of its ass and blasting off the Rocket-dan). Now, if she had actually spent time with it developing its attacks and really training it, as Satoshi did with Yukiwarashi, then I wouldn't mind as much. It's the fact that it just pulls this crap out of nowhere that irritates me.

The thing is Haruka hasn't done any real training with it at all. She's used it in two battles prior to this episode (three if you count it pulling ice beam out of its ass and blasting off the Rocket-dan). Now, if she had actually spent time with it developing its attacks and really training it, as Satoshi did with Yukiwarashi, then I wouldn't mind as much. It's the fact that it just pulls this crap out of nowhere that irritates me.

But do we really know that she hasn't been training it? All that would be required would for her to utter one brief line in an episode where she mentions how hard she's been training with Squirtle and that would be enough. But since we don't know the Japanese episodes line for line that is rather hard to do.

Heck, it would look like her Bulbasaur learned Petal Dance in one day if she hadn't mentioned she had been training it to learn the move for a while.

This should be a good episode.Im not just saying that because of my username ^^.

um... I suggest reading through this thread, first. Hakuryuu only showed up at the very end, and its storyline was pretty much a rehash of the Safari Zone episode. To make things worse, Haruka's Zenigame killed this episode by stealing Heigani's chance to shine. Hakuryuu may be my favorite Pokemon as well, but even its presence couldn't save this episode from sucking.

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Just saw this in the US. This episode was cool. Corphish has a terrible new voice. Don't remember Ash's Corphish knowing Vicegrip. That salesman was very annoying. It was awesome to see Dragonair again.

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