Every year on September 16th, Mexicans across the globe celebrate Mexico’s War of Independence against Spain. This year is a particularly special anniversary—the bicentennial of Mexico’s independence. Mexico is also approaching the centennial celebration of the Revolution. In Mexico City, throughout the country’s thirty-one states, and throughout the world, a wide variety of celebrations are planned; parades, rallies, concerts.

Paco Ignacio Taibo II is one of Mexico’s most esteemed writers. He’s been steeped in the tradition of Mexican history and culture for years, and he has something of a cult following. He sat down with Maria this week to talk about Mexico’s bicentenario, what it means for people living in Mexico, and Mexicans living abroad. Here’s an extended version of their conversation. It runs a little over a half-hour.