They’re here! Add More Things to Your Reward for Even More Possibilities

Just click "Manage My Pledge" and add multiples of $25 or $35 to your total depending on how many extra Things you want with your reward. You don’t have to change your reward tier or specify the exact types of Things you want now, just the total dollar amount.

Imagine the possibilities! Here's just one more example of how you can make your world smarter with SmartThings:

@Peter V - The initial price of things will be $35/$25. The main benefit of adding them now will be that you will be first inline to get them before general public - as we have no current timetable for general orders and shipping. We have our hands full with our Backers :)

We do have plans to include more Things that can be used in security-type scenarios. Cameras, audible alarms, panic buttons, etc are all being considered. In addition, SmartThings will work with many 3rd party products already in market so you will be able to get them.

@Daniel Carter - I think you figured this out but the Amazon page and charge supplants (voids) the previous pledge. We agree it is daunting the first time you see it.

@Marco Huiskamp - increasing your pledge in $35/$25 increments is the best way to ensure you get your Things in the quickest time. As mentioned above we do not yet have a timetable for ordering additional hubs and Things after the campaign ends.

@Stanton McCandlish - Any of your Things can be setup to work with either hub. The SmartTag will have accelerometer, thermometer, and presence sensing in it. They will cost the same as the stand alone sensors. But even if we do not have a sensor you want right out of the gate - you can always find ZigBee or Z-Wave devices and use them with the system.

I've opted for a $323 Double Pack (so I can use this stuff at two locations), and have now added four $25 items and three $35 ones. I'd like all of the added-on Things to work with one hub, and have the other hub just use it's "stock" 3 Things.

Also, Update #9 suggests that the thermometer and accelerometer Things will not be available at ship date, but I would like some of these "Thing credits" I'm pre-ordering to be applied to those when available (i.e., I would not want a extra presence sensors or whatever that I I don't need just because the thermo. and accelero. Things were not yet available.

I am fairly certain from the note on the manage my pledge page that I should go with $209, it was just the Amazon page that threw me, since it says will charge me $209 but it does not say anything about voiding the payment I previously authorized.

I was going to add $35 to my $174 pledge for an extra outlet, but I got slightly confused when I got to the Amazon checkout page... Do I enter $209 (in which case it would 'void' my initial $174 pledge?) Or do I just enter $35?

@Rick Devrin - The Early Adopter Special and Pre-Order levels are the Exact same other than dollar value and quantity limits. People have been backing the $199 level for some reason - most likely confusion about the language change. (we cannot fix the language to be clearer per Kickstarter rules)

All $199 pledge supporters should move to the $174 pledge level. $199 level is for when $174's run out. Period.

It's my impression (correct me if I am wrong) that the "EARLY ADOPTER SPECIAL" $174 and "PRE-ORDER" $199 backings are the same; except you are adding $25 more money for "extra things".. a "credit if you will to the $199 "PRE-ORDER" backing level? Yes/No?

"No Monthly Fees" and "Free service on their package forever" mean the same thing between those two backing levels, correct?

@Maxim - Yes, that is how to add more Things. The current list of Things is provided in the graphic in the update above, and the combinations of useful scenarios given the SmartApps technology are significant. With respect to your international question, yes on the free service. That is true for all Kickstater backers. We do not yet have details on shipping internationally but will plan to update our backers before the end of the campaign such that they can cancel if they wish. And of course even after the campaign we can refund your pledge if you no longer want your reward because the shipping is too expensive.

Am I correct? I have pledge for 174$, so I will 1 SmartThings Hub and 3 Things. If I want some more things I should add multipletime of $25 or $35? (174+25=199$ -> 1 Hub+4 things).
What Things I will get for 25$ or 35$?
What about international users? I will get everything by post and free service?

We need a GPIO Thing. Take a zigbee tranceiver, strap it to a cheap microcontroller like the M0, and throw in just enough software for us to access the broken-out GPIO pins through our SmartThings hub. This could be a very inexpensive way to get a LOT of stuff automated.

I have several questions and ideas:
1. Does SmartOutlet works with European AC without any adapters? Or I have to use additional adapter to use it, am i?
2. I want to use SmartOutlet with airc-onditioner, but after it plugged in the AC it doesn't turn on, you have to turn it in using remote control. So how I should be able to use it with such air-conditioner?
3. How me wires should be organized if I want to use SmartThing to turn on the light on some event, but without loosing ability to turn it on/off using the switch. Also what Smart stuff do I need to turn the light on/off?
4. How I can lock/unlock the front door using SmartThings? I mean, for example using, presence tag, When I'm close to the door, system can unlock apartment.
5. How I can control curtains using SmartThings? For example if I want to close them if temperature rises in apartment or open them in the morning.

Ideas:
1. It would be awesome if you'll create a Light Sensor, so it can react how much light there is, so I can set some level of light to trigger some event.
2. Also you can create programming IR remove control module, so it can be programmer using existing IR remote control, and then when it's needed it can send IR signals to different stuff (e.g. Apple TV, TV, DVD, Blue-ray, fan, conditioner etc.)
3. You can create some kind of smart microphone, so it can be used to give voice commands or al least recognize clapping (:

I want my extra thing! Thanks! And i have a question:
I just have to conect the HUB to my router and the Things will conect to the network correct? I do not need any kind of home automation, is that correct?
Thanks guys!

Let me rephrase:
Wouldnt it be smart if my iPhone (with the App installed) acted as a "Presence tag" and triggered automations, one the hub senses that I am within range?

Or will I still need a presence tag for location-based automations? And if so, ho big is a presence tag? Your descriptions suggest it is small enough for a dog collar, so I assume it would also be keychain-sized? Some approximate sizes of these yet-to-be-released SmartThings would be helpful. Exciting stuff!

Is $25 and $35 going to be the price of the Things after Smart Things officially launches or will the price change? I hope not. I think it is a great price. Low enough I can slowly fill my house with them, high enough you all can do your thing!

- we make a family whiteboard app (runs on a tablet that hangs around the house)
- we give everyone in the family presence tags
- the WB app then builds a chatter stream of who's been in and out of the house all day, and when
- so you get a single view right away when you come home on who's here, and who's been in/out through the day

Can I just ask whether all these (amazing) rewards, such as the additional things (I think I have four or five now) will still apply to the poor International/UK people when you eventually ship to us? Early backer here, and am absolutely *dying* with impatience!

Wouldn't it be great if the SmartOutlet had a plug and socket end on a short wire with the controller box in the middle - rather than all-in-one box?

The benefits would be:
1/ Plug would not cover a double wall socket.
2/ Easier to plug in the SmartOutlet behind cupboards and tight spaces
3/ Easier to Internationalize the SmartOutlet by just changing the plug/socket ends - assuming the internal voltage rating of the circuitry handles 110v-240v.

i like that sensors can communicate back to the hub through other sensors. This allows not only for the mesh network to be extended, but also to solidify the entire network when the placement of a specific sensor in a difficult environment causes a weak signal directly back to the hub.

@Nate - We've definitely thought about the concept of 'Shared Hubs', for instance in an apartment complex. In such a model it would be the Things that are tied to your account, which would support your scenario. That may not be available at launch, so hopefully your brother will hop in regardless. He can always gift his hub in the future!

Is there going to be options for someone just to pledge for a Thing pack?

For my household, we'll only need 1 Hub, but my brother would like to purchase additional things to add for himself. Any way to segregate and have separate users for the Hub and segregate the Things as well?

I am in for Enthusiast! I can't wait to develop for this platform and watch it grow. I have been developing on microcontrollers( arduino included) for years and can't wait to apply this to smart things.

You guys have done a fantastic job and I can't wait to be a part of it. Thanks for the clarification on the levels.

@Andrew Enthusiasts can have 11 Things, which can include as many outlets as desired, developer and Maker tools including the Thing Modules and Shield for Arduino and early SDK access (for those who want it), a chance to vote on our roadmap for new Things, and will be the first shipments to go out the door.

@Jason for many of the Things you will be able to use rechargable standard batteries. However, some will use readily available coin cell batteries instead because the Thing is simply too small to fit a larger AA or AAA or even 1/2 AA. In all cases, the devices should operate for more than a year on a single battery (in some cases many years) and will notify you via the SmartThings app when their batteries start getting low.

So here's something to think about, with regard to the Enthusiast level reward. If you were, instead, an Early Bird at $150, replied to this update in the first 48 hours, and then added six more of the most expensive Things (the Outlets) at $35 each...you would have a hub and 10 things for $360, $140 less than the Enthusiast.

Does this mean that my pledge comes with my choice of 3 things? If so, how do you balance the cost of the different things? As I am unsure at this time exactly what things I might want, I added $100 to my pledge to cover 4 more of the $25 things thinking that I could use my 3 (possibly 4) covered in my "...and 3 things..." for any outlets I might want (and I'm debating between 1 or 2 of those, so I'm not trying to scam here.)

But I just read the comment above about the adding $10 and now I'm wondering exactly what 3 "things" I can select for the initial 3 (or 4) that came with the base pledge.

Can you please clarify what exactly the Makers will be getting? It's clear that developers get 3 Things but it's not at all clear what Thing Modules or Thing Shields are? Give us some specs! Are the modules the same as the shields? So if you're an Enthusiast do you get 2 shields/modules and then 8 more things of your choice, plus the extra Thing? I could go on forever. Explain, post pics etc. You're leaving us Makers in the dark!

I for one would prefer these things be powered with rechargeable double or triple a batteries. I'm sitting here in New Orleans without power right now and would like to still have them recording temperature and other data.

These comments about batteries brought up questions.Can someone confirm that the Smart Hub and all the Smart Things are powered by electricity except maybe the Presence Tag ? Are the batteries just for back up (except on the Presence Tag) ? I certainly hope. If not this stuff should be powered by electricity.

Thank you SmartThings for replying the backers questions. The only thing I'll might ask you, is to show us better how all the devices you showed us. And, I suppose you'll send us an email asking what "things" you want on our pack.

Won't my iPhone with the App installed act as a "Presence tag" and trigger automations? Or will I still need a presence tag for location-based automations? And if so, ho big is a presence tag? Your descriptions suggest it is small enough for a dog collar, so I assume it would also be keychain-sized? Some approximate sizes of these yet-to-be-released SmartThings would be helpful. Exciting stuff!

Dan: indeed. But I do not really need something that is medically dependent...my seizures are 'frequent enough to not be able to drive, but not debilitating'. the thing I initially thought of was simply that after a seizure, for a day or two, it is hard for me to bend over or sit, so I spend time in bed, sleeping and reading. Being able to turn on lights, let people in the front door without hobbling to the front, etc., would be a great boon. And then I started hacking in my head... ;-)