No problem, it's all good... Unless you were born and raised in an English-speaking country--in which case, shame on your teachers! =)

I like the High Evolutionary idea, especially since it's actually part of QS/SW's origin story in the comics and an entity known as The Other already exists in the MCU. It brings in a neat villain and it also ties to Thanos.

Making them actual Inhumans would have a huge effect on that future movie, and a pretty sharp change from their characters in the comics.

Exactly. I'm on board with High Evolutionary. I think he'll be the most visible "villain" in TA2, and he's creating an army (well, at least a small team) of "supervillains" to attack the Avengers. Probably a team called The Masters (of evil). And Hi-Ev is working with Thanos via some kind of telepathic linkage, just as Thanos used Loki in TA1.

Oh My God, Avengers 2 will be a disaster!
Joss has no idea what he's doing, so after The Avengers, now he's an idiot!
Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch is HUGE mistake!
He has no idea how to make this work!
And Chris Evans will be way too small!

And, in case you don't know, I'm joking.

I have complete and utter faith in Joss. He IS THE MAN!

Let him do his thing, which he is great at, and let us all enjoy it.

He's earned our trust. He says he's got some great ideas for A2, and I can't wait to see it, but let's trust his vision.

you're not getting me. of course they can take shooting arrows without looking. there's nothing science fiction-y about a bow and arrow. a marksman's skill doesn't need explanation unless the projectiles are defying the laws of gravity; like in Wanted.

super-soldier serum is an explanation. they spent a good chunk of the movie introducing it. why? because they couldn't just have Steve walk into a room and out with powers. they even set it up in the incredible hulk movie.

and Thor didn't just pop out of nowhere. they introduced his realm. they explained that he's a "god." that's why he can do what he does.

Okay, you obviously care about power origins far more than I do. Are you suggesting that movies should spend precious screentime explaining how every characters' powers came about? The Incredibles must have killed you.

What has Peter Parker got to do with the Extremis or anything else in the Marvel Cinematic Universe? There is no connection at all. His origin is explained in his own movies, produced by Sony. And if you missed the last one, the radioactive spider bite wasn't even the cause of his powers. They changed it to some muddled BS about his father's experiments at Oscorp.

__________________"It’s something that’s easy to take for granted, growing up in the United States as a white male, that my cinematic heroes look like me...It’s something that over the course of these ten years, having a certain amount of power over what type of movies are made and what type of actors we hire, I want everybody to have that feeling. We don’t take it for granted that people want to see themselves reflected in our heroes and our characters." ~ Kevin Feige

Okay, you obviously care about power origins far more than I do. Are you suggesting that movies should spend precious screentime explaining how every characters' powers came about? The Incredibles must have killed you.

this isn't as hard as you're making it. the Incredibles started mid-action. right out the gate, they established the Incredibles universe as one in which having superpowers is not that strange. the world was littered with supeheroes; none of whom were given much of a spotlight or origin.

the Avengers takes place in a universe similar to our own. people having super powers is weird to your average marvel civilian. they've only now learned that they aren't alone in the universe. and they've put some effort into introducing the individual players and their origins. no one has just come out nowhere. it has nothing but comic books in common with the Incredibles. and, yes, i think how a character becomes something greater than human is precious information. it can be as simple as "product of a black market super soldier project." but it needs to be there.

What has Peter Parker got to do with the Extremis or anything else in the Marvel Cinematic Universe? There is no connection at all. His origin is explained in his own movies, produced by Sony. And if you missed the last one, the radioactive spider bite wasn't even the cause of his powers. They changed it to some muddled BS about his father's experiments at Oscorp.

am i speaking over your head? i brought up spider-man because the poster i was replying to is a very obvious Spider-man fan. he/she didn't seem to understand why Pietro or Wanda's origins mattered. i countered with the spider bite. his/her response was "it's part of his origin." why doesn't this make sense to you? you all are saying that it's not important to explain why they have powers. i'm demonstrating that it's what is expected. they explained why Peter has powers. it doesn't matter if some of the facts were altered. they still explained it!

being the children of a mutant terrorist and/or being former mutant terrorists in need of redemption is a part of their characters. there's a lot of wiggle room on how they present it. but it would be stupid to just have them appear without any explanation, imo.

am i speaking over your head? i brought up spider-man because the poster i was replying to is a very obvious Spider-man fan. he/she didn't seem to understand why Pietro or Wanda's origins mattered. i countered with the spider bite. his/her response was "it's part of his origin." why doesn't this make sense to you? you all are saying that it's not important to explain why they have powers. i'm demonstrating that it's what is expected. they explained why Peter has powers. it doesn't matter if some of the facts were altered. they still explained it!

This is the film universe, not the comics universe. Whedon will obviously have to change some things that were in the comics in order to adapt the characters for the films. Marvel cannot use the mutant angle or Magneto as Wanda & Pietro's father, a fact that has been repeated in this thread ad nauseam. Do you understand the concept of adaptation, or has that gone completely over your head? I'm curious because you appear to expect the films to slavishly follow the comics when that has never been the case.

__________________"It’s something that’s easy to take for granted, growing up in the United States as a white male, that my cinematic heroes look like me...It’s something that over the course of these ten years, having a certain amount of power over what type of movies are made and what type of actors we hire, I want everybody to have that feeling. We don’t take it for granted that people want to see themselves reflected in our heroes and our characters." ~ Kevin Feige

This is the film universe, not the comics universe. Whedon will obviously have to change some things that were in the comics in order to adapt the characters for the films. Marvel cannot use the mutant angle or Magneto as Wanda & Pietro's father, a fact that has been repeated in this thread ad nauseam. Do you understand the concept of adaptation, or has that gone completely over your head? I'm curious because you appear to expect the films to slavishly follow the comics when that has never been the case.

Personally, I'm wondering how Whedon is going to juggle 8 main Avengers with a main villain and other supporting characters.

One way could be to cut back the level of interaction with SHIELD. They're already going to be prominent in Cap 2, and they'll have a network TV Show. This sequel can just focus on the Avengers for the most part.

__________________"There is a difference between you and me. We both looked into the abyss, but when it looked back at us... you blinked."

Yeah I can see Shield kind of folding under after Cap2, seems like they might be heavily disrupted and probably out of action for Avengers2. Which brings up the question of who or what brings the team together this time.

__________________
"1983: I was 14 years old and I still have a nanny.. that was weird!"

I also likes me some High Evolutionary! That would work great as well.
They could go as far as having them being the Frank's kids, yet one way or another ending up at the mercy of the High Evo. at an early age.
Y'know, summer camp on Wungador Mt. Something.

Yeah I can see Shield kind of folding under after Cap2, seems like they might be heavily disrupted and probably out of action for Avengers2. Which brings up the question of who or what brings the team together this time.

No clue on what might bring them together, but I'd love to see Cap be the one to do the "assembling" this time.

__________________

"They say: sufferings are misfortunes...Once we're thrown off our habitual paths, we think all is lost; but it's only here that the new and good begins.

As long as there's life, there's happiness. There's much, much still to come."

Personally, I'm wondering how Whedon is going to juggle 8 main Avengers with a main villain and other supporting characters.

One way could be to cut back the level of interaction with SHIELD. They're already going to be prominent in Cap 2, and they'll have a network TV Show. This sequel can just focus on the Avengers for the most part.

The Lord of the Rings does it with more characters than that.

__________________

Quote:

"I knew there was something wrong. It just took a while to dawn on me, or maybe I was just afraid to think it, but... you survived the destruction because you caused it. Raina wasn't the only one changed in there, and I'm pretty sure the DNA results that I'm running right now will confirm that there's nothing wrong with the data in my head Skye. There's something wrong with you." - Leo Fitz

I have no doubt it'll be an event on Earth that is far too big for any of the Avengers to ignore. It'll have to be something serious enough for Thor to return to Earth and something that will force Tony into building a new suit and getting Stark Tower/Avengers Mansion up and running. I think we need to ask ourselves how Thor gets back into the game?