That was a very interesting article and it highlighted a few things I hadn't thought of.

I agree that music has been devalued. The feeling when you bought a new LP (or even CD) and went home for that first listen while you read all the sleeve notes (even the copyright notice - or is that just me) has disappeared. I don't even listen to albums anymore because everything is on shuffle.

yes thats interesting about the cd buyer being over 30.
Ive noticed that my son is only interested in buying a certain tune
(mind you he is 9) but i do force him in to the Blind Vynil Stackpicker game.
where you have to pick out a vynil album at random ,think of a number from 1 to 10 and then sit through that track till the end..this has widened his I pod up a bit.(also makes a good compilation of rubbish,which you can listen to in a fresh way ,I like to shred it all in Pro tools and make like a Vynil Salad))

From an Artist point of view - I tunes is the worst payer in terms of royalties
(ie your slice of the pie) it seems with evry new format you get less which is ironic seeing it costs naff all to put it up.
I was trying to find out why Skam s distributer had nt got My new one in the
major stores(well not in MCR) ,but it seems that the sub genres of electronica etc are the first to suffer in terms of what those shops buy in.
(Is electronica a dirty word?)

Other things ive noticed is record companys scrapping stock because its cheaper to do that than ware housing it ..hence all those permnant SAles in megastores and those cheaper stores (Music Zone)just doing main catalogue stuff.

I know its up to artists to adapt to the change ,but i do like the album format -its so ingrained in me - I also like sleeve notes etc (as im shure you ve noticed- i even still think in terms of side a and b which i know is
pointless... but i get the feeling even with long term mates that attention spans are smaller these days and music product may be need to be smaller (less tracks) (not 13 or 14 like mine)
How do you explain a B side to a downloader? is nt it just an inferior track?
Is contextualising the music my responsability (i should care less)
Any way best get on and make some more...in a bit

graham wrote:From an Artist point of view - I tunes is the worst payer in terms of royalties(ie your slice of the pie) it seems with evry new format you get less which is ironic seeing it costs naff all to put it up.

Yes, artists only receive 4.5p out of a 79p track (about half the rate of a physical single), which probably means the rest goes to record companies and Apple...

It does look like download will be the main format pretty soon. Which is sad, as I too belong to those people who love browsing stores for vinyl (and CD) treasures. Let's hope those specialist and second-hand stores will remain in business. I would find it extremely amusing if one day vinyl sales overtook CD sales again.

I love the Blind Vinyl Stackpicker game Graham, I immediately introduced it to my kids and they loved the idea. It's great that they can't fast forward or skip like with CD or mp3. Today's picks were: 808 State - Chisler (Bond 12" b-side), Timzone with Afrika Bambaataa: The Wildstyle (12" a side). Anybody else with kids and vinyl out there?

Yeah, I'll sometime give a report on how the Blind Vinyl Stackpicker game went down with my two daughters,
aged 5 and 3 (my son will soon be 15 months, so I don't know how fun this'll be for him, though!)

But on the other hand, why leave the development of his musical taste left to chance?

d.

P.S. I tried this once with my oldest daughter, BTW; but that was with CD's - would this still count?

Hmm, they keep on picking 12"s, today's picks: A Guy Called Gerald: Hot Lemonade and Dead Or Alive: Brand New Lover (ahem, blush). "Daddy, there is a woman on the sleeve, but I can only hear a man singing." "Ahem, that is supposed to be a man on the sleeve son."

@ Dee, I guess CD's are OK, as long as you don't let you daughter skip or fast forward

No ,it just relates to the stackpicker game..where you force your self to listen to obscure album tracks blindfolded... i supose you could just put your I pod on random,but the main thing is your not allowed to skip youve got to listen intently even if you dont like it.
today
1 nucleus -bedrock deadlock ( early british jazz rock )
2. robert prince-statics ( new york ballet music from 60s)
3 don cherry -chenrezig (farther of Nehna Cherry and king of the Pocket trumpet)
4.carl craig -a wonderful life (well carl craig,well good techno)
5.jon liefs -landsyn (Icelandic classical)
6 crispy ambulance-green light white shirt (factory records super post punk bizniz)
7.Kong Ling -Ciao Ciao Bambino-(hong kong night club singer does italian 60s pop with a latin off beat)