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my friend has a windows 7 ultimate computer which lost the activation (i had used kms pico or other activation tools, maybe ms toolkit or something)
i tried to use the activation tools again but none is working, they all say this version is not supported
i remember this happening before but i don't know how i activated it,...

my friend had installed windows 10 (with the legit upgrade stuff) but he had to roll back because the start bar was malfunctioning... and i didnt really enjoy windows 10, so got back to windows 7 and after some time (i think after an update) this problem appeared...

i thought "heh, we will install windows 10 and you will get used to it"
but the upgrade tool says i need an activated copy of windows 7 to upgrade to windows 10...

If you're trying to upgrade to Windows 10 using the assistive devices workaround, not even Daz's Windows Loader will help. The upgrade tool sends your key to Microsoft to ensure it is valid, and invalidates your computer if you try.

I think there's an update that hunts down and disables illegitimate activation methods, but it can be uninstalled. However, Microsoft is moving to cumulative updates on Windows 7 and Vista, and I expect that update will be embedded into the updates. You will either have to work with an unpatched unsecure computer or pony up for a license.

What I did was buy a Windows 7 OEM license for $60, activated it over the phone (it actually sent me a text to a mobile page I could enter the code - much more convenient), then used the assistive devices loophole to upgrade to a valid Windows 10 license. I'd recommend that.

If you're trying to upgrade to Windows 10 using the assistive devices workaround, not even Daz's Windows Loader will help. The upgrade tool sends your key to Microsoft to ensure it is valid, and invalidates your computer if you try.

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the thing is..
i installed and setup the windows 7 with microsoft toolkit IRRC before to my friend...
when the "upgrade to windows 10" bullshit appeared, my friend "accidentally" upgraded it, however when booting windows 10, the start menu was not working propertly
my friend asked me to fix it, what i did was press the "revert back to windows 7 button" now he is back to windows 7...

i now just wanted windows 7 activated, don't care about the windows 10 at all. but i could be able to upgrade again to 10 in order to fix this, either way was fine.
i just don't want the black screen with the "activate" prompt at boot (and automatically shut down the computer)

the thing is..
i installed and setup the windows 7 with microsoft toolkit IRRC before to my friend...
when the "upgrade to windows 10" bullshit appeared, my friend "accidentally" upgraded it, however when booting windows 10, the start menu was not working propertly
my friend asked me to fix it, what i did was press the "revert back to windows 7 button" now he is back to windows 7...

i now just wanted windows 7 activated, don't care about the windows 10 at all. but i could be able to upgrade again to 10 in order to fix this, either way was fine.
i just don't want the black screen with the "activate" prompt at boot (and automatically shut down the computer)

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...Hold on, your friend upgraded when? In the beginning the upgrade tool didn't have activation validation and would upgrade and activate any system as long as it reported itself as valid. If your friend upgraded early enough, he may still have a valid Windows 10 hash, and can perform a clean install (or upgrade using installation media) and have a valid key.

LOL. You got me! Anyway, as long as you use any loaders to activation it and it is still illegal, right ?

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Pretty much. The only legal way is to buy a valid license. My Windows 7 OEM upgrade to 10 is technically a grey area because a) The license was used on a computer I'm not reselling and b) I don't use any assistive devices. a) used to be allowed, but then Microsoft retroactively changed their TOC which may not be enforceable and b) relied on the honor system anyways. But the end result is my system is fully valid according to Microsoft's servers, and if there's any question I can rattle off the COA key on the sticker on the back of my system. I still save a lot by only spending $60.

Pretty much. The only legal way is to buy a valid license. My Windows 7 OEM upgrade to 10 is technically a grey area because a) The license was used on a computer I'm not reselling and b) I don't use any assistive devices. a) used to be allowed, but then Microsoft retroactively changed their TOC which may not be enforceable and b) relied on the honor system anyways. But the end result is my system is fully valid according to Microsoft's servers, and if there's any question I can rattle off the COA key on the sticker on the back of my system. I still save a lot by only spending $60.

...Hold on, your friend upgraded when? In the beginning the upgrade tool didn't have activation validation and would upgrade and activate any system as long as it reported itself as valid. If your friend upgraded early enough, he may still have a valid Windows 10 hash, and can perform a clean install (or upgrade using installation media) and have a valid key.

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he updated when windows 10 was still being offered for free..
i tried to use the upgrade tool some weeks ago, but it says it can't upgrade because windows 7 is not activated (windows 7 even does have the black screen)

he updated when windows 10 was still being offered for free..
i tried to use the upgrade tool some weeks ago, but it says it can't upgrade because windows 7 is not activated (windows 7 even does have the black screen)

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Again, when? Which month of which year?

Don't use the upgrade tool. Download the clean install iso, burn it to a disk (or USB), bnoot from it, then do an upgrade install. If you did the previous upgrade early enough ("when windows 10 was still being offered for free" is too vague to be helpful) then you should be automatically activated once the upgrade is completed.

I had nothing but trouble with Windows 10 activation with real licenses from several of my PC's (each having their own license). My media PC still shows that Windows 10 is not activated even though I did a clean install using DVD (early) and it will not accept my license from Windows 7 that was activated. It may not be your license.. it may still be Microsoft that is messed up. I know countless others had same issue.