REPORT: Sarah Palin no longer a Fox News contributor

I guess this explains why we haven’t seen much of the Governor on Fox News as of late:

REAL CLEAR POLITICS – After a three-year run as a paid contributor to the nation’s highest-rated cable news channel, Sarah Palin and FOX News have cut ties, according to a source close to the former Alaska governor.

“It’s my understanding that Gov. Palin was offered a contract by FOX, and she decided not to renew the arrangement,” the source close to Palin told RCP. “She remains focused on broadening her message of common-sense conservatism across the country and will be expanding her voice in the national discussion.”

The source declined to say whether Palin would pursue a television contract with another news network, such as CNN.

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Stehekin912

…or PJMedia or TheBlaze…

marketcomp

The article implied CNN.

martha chandler

Palin on CNN?? I don’t watch TV, so I don’t see CNN. A lot of conservatives and Republicans I know don’t watch mainstream media.

marketcomp

But, that’s the point! If she is there then I will go and would others. You know, kinda like “if you build it they will come”.

martha chandler

I can’t speak for others, but I can honestly say, I won’t watch CNN no matter who is on. Even if I had a TV. I still would not support mainstream media. I refuse to contribute to their viewership, on any basis.

Stehekin912

I will not watch CNN either. That will remain in effect until it becomes Conservative Network News.

hachie1

I wouldn’t insist it be purely conservative, even tho’ I am one by nature. If they’d just make the news genuinely truthful, good news or bad, they’d have all the dedicated fans they could handle just amongst us honest Americans. Hope that concept isn’t way too far ‘outside the box’.

Stehekin912

Good point. In my mind I have been equating Conservative with Truth because right now, media is so tainted, that is what the relationship seems to be. But yes. True and accurate and responsible.

SiennaP

Conservatives are needed at other networks to make their case to an audience that only listens to one point of view. Staying at Fox has less impact because she’s preaching to the choir. So, if this is what she’s doing that would be awesome!

RighteousCrow_JustCaws

The point is to expose CNN watchers to Sarah’s “…message of common-sense conservatism…” – we don’t need it and will get plenty of Sarah here, I suspect.

martha chandler

I see your point, but don’t you think she’ll constantly be exposed to ridicule?

StandProudNow

Of course she would. Some people can never be reached, no matter what. But her message will resonate in people’s BONES. Those are people we can reach. Forget the far left, they are not rational ever.

Susanna958

It’s not just the far left, the GOP fears her too. They all know she will put the corrupt in jail, so they all have a reason to fear her. If the everyday common person, Dem or Repub. realized that, she would be a shoo-in in the next election.

1endtimes2020

If she can quit FOX, I doubt she’d want anything to do with CNN….the netwok of one-sided, biased ‘news’.

donalddt

You mean that CNN and all the others are one sided? You want every outlet sound the same as MSNBC, NBC, cbs, abc, and the rest which slobbers all over the president. Is this what you mean?

I don’t even watch Fox. I just read blogs anymore. I simply cannot stand the drama on those shows.

1endtimes2020

Yes, and the tons of commercials at all costs. “we will continue with the presentation of this crisis in our schools after a message from our sponsor” is what they mean when they continue to say “after the break’ and ‘stay with us’. I can’t stand that montonous unimaginative talk anymore.

How do you expect them to pay salaries and stay on the air, then? Government? By contributions from “viewers like you”?

1endtimes2020

Of course not. But there are way, way too many commercials. It’s good for them, but I’m fed up with filling my brain with thousands of messages I don’t need or want. It isn’t worth it. It’s like seeing people with their heads down all the time as they text, text and text, and hardly look at anyone anymore. It’s too much, that’s all.
If you don’t mind, good for you.
Did you see Jay Leno interview a woman who was 103, and still very articulate? He asked her about what she thought of life today, comparing to when she was young. She said texting was something she thought was one thing, but overdone. Jay asked her what she thought would happen? She had the audience in stitches when she replied. When those young people get married and have children, they all will be born with big thumbs”.

SiennaP

Wow! How insightful.

donalddt

I am almost up to that point too,,, I get tired of Oreilley calling every guest by their last name while they refer to him as his first ‘bill”. The rest are ok but like you say the drama and arguments drive me crazy

I used to watch Fox if I was going to watch commentary, but Fox has changed like poiliticians do and are becoming more shallow as time goes by. Rarely watch it now, but on the other hand wouldn’t watch MSNBC or CNN at gun point. Not a Palin for President person,but she makes more sense than anything the mainstream media regurgitates.

Susanna958

” Not a Palin for President person,but she makes more sense than anything the mainstream media regurgitates.”

The mainstream media is nothing but a cheap propaganda tool for the progressive movement. They exist because the majority of the Americqn people allow them to by paying attention to the lies and deceptions they constantly regurgitate. Palin is who she is and that is definitely a huge plus over those dedicated to “transforming” the greatest nation in history. A small problem is she is a galvanizing figure who would only continue to polarize our nation. Would I prefer her over Obama, of course.

Nukeman60

The only reason Palin is a person who polarizes our nation is because the LameStream painted her that way. Once the liberal regurgitation is exposed for what it is, she is no longer that polarizing figure.

It’s not Palin we should focus on as the problem, it’s the media. Their goal is always to misdirect.

Not really. The “source close to the former Alaska governor” was asked about CNN and the asker (I guess Scott Conroy) recieved an effective “no comment” reply.

So we’ll have to wait and see. You have to assume that she’s only going to do something that continues the income stream. So it will probably involve some contract elsewhere, and not just her, retiring into a think-tank situation, or just being the head of a PAC. That would represent a loss of millions of bucks income.

Of course, maybe she’s really frugal, and has decided to cut out the income stream and do something more directly hands on with her political activities. 2014 races are already being worked on, so who knows.

1endtimes2020

She would be better off to have her own show, like Rush Limbaugh.

cabensg

It would be good but that’s still preaching to the choir at least on Fox she may have gotten a few who forgot to turn Fox off and accidentally heard something truthful.

1endtimes2020

Preaching to the choir. I suppose you could say that is what Rush Limbaugh is doing. A lot of information is funneled to him, which his audience can be informed about. I’m sure Sarah Palin would speak volumes about things she knows. When she appeared on TV shows, or on radio, she only has a certain amount of time. You know, the ‘running out of time’ thing. With her own show, no one will cut her off. This is important. People like Sarah don’t have to be running for President to be very useful and informative to the public.
Preaching to the choir. Even the choir can be informed, so they can better inform others.

Nukeman60

‘Preaching to the choir. Even the choir can be informed, so they can better inform others.’ – 1endtimes2020

I like that. Teach the disciples, and the disciples will teach the world.

Plus I think it would have a bigger impact, Sunday eve’s would most likely reach a large audience.

DavidRobertson

If she had issues with Fox turning the screws on her scheduled interviews, she is smart enough to assume that another network will be just as unfair. I don’t think Palin is going to jump on any news bandwagons. I think she is going to take a “Beck” turn and continue her message through new media. Just my opinion.

Sober_Thinking

That would be a much better match.

kong1967

Ok, if she wants to broaden her message, why would she decline the contract offer? I’m confused. FOX is a huge microphone. Sad to see her go.

3seven77

FOX didn’t like the fact that she went on Mark Levin’s show to announce she was not running for President. Roger Ailes was very, very “unhappy” about that. I think that’s why she got fewer and fewer on-air appearances. Punished by banishment.

FOX’s loss, not Sarah’s.

kong1967

That’s kinda what I thought. Not in specific, but that maybe FOX didn’t want to renew and they are letting her “quit” to save face. She doesn’t need to save face because she’s great.

Susanna958

Do ya think it was because his twit, I mean daughter, was jealous?

kong1967

Lol, I prefer twit. I think it’s because he had no respect for her and didn’t want her looking better than him. I don’t know why he picked her other than the fact she was female in order to get us behind him. However, his true feelings about her were obvious and I hate him. I love Palin.

Nukeman60

My philosophy on why McCain picked Palin was this: McCain was so narrow minded that he thought picking a woman would garner him the Hillary female vote, who were very angry at Obama at the time for what he did to Hillary.

Even though Palin was awesome and drew her own large crowds (bigger by far than McCain), the media made sure with their smear campaign that the Hillary vote would not swing to Palin and the rest is history, as they say.

kong1967

Yes, I totally agree with that.

1endtimes2020

Stiflers, stiflers, stiflers. There are always people who wnat to deny other persons freedom to express themselves. That’s what happened to the press, and then television and radio. Freedom of the press became freedom only for the press. They became too big for their britches, thinking of themselves as all knowing about everything. Heck, they don’t even have to verify or confirm their pronouncements anymore..assuming is good enough, as long as it doesn’t affect their liberal-leftist agendas.
I stopped buying newspapers at least 10 years ago, and sure don’t miss them. I predict a lot of good people are going to get fed up with movies and television, enough to only subscribe to the basic channels, and eventually just stick to internet and hand held technology. No business is indispensable. At this time, if people would contact advertisers about their sponsoring of immoral shows, there could be a change in programming, especially if advewrtisers don’t renew a contract. If people wrote to their representatives in government, the same could happen. As long as people do nothing, and think no one else writes, governments think people don’tcare what they do. They get bolder and bolder with their own agendas.
Individual action counts, and we just need to “Just Do It.”

Me too. And every time they try to hand me a free paper at the Mall or the supermarket or whatever, I say: Excuse me, do I LOOK like a half-wit socialist?

1endtimes2020

That’s funny. I say “You couldn’t pay me enough to bring that leftwing propaganda into my home” If someone persists and says “But it’s free, and for 13 weeks”, I reply “That’s fine, but that paper is not interested in what I have to say; they’re only interested in giving out their views.” That usually ends it.

This is proof that Fox is no different than any other major network. They want to control the message and the messenger; just another source of corporate, controlled media. Have you ever noticed that they won’t give Michael Savage the time of day even though is one of the top 5 “talkers”? He was banned from Britain yet nobody on Fox would even do a story on it. Don’t think for a minute that there is anything “fair and balanced” about Fox.

Orangeone

Judge Pirro is on Fox and she let’s it rip! But I agree, Fox is too left of center for me and they won’t fire Juannie

Lippenheimer

I don’t know if FOX is left of center or not. I think they merely suffer the same delusions that our RINO leadership does. You know? They’re trying to play the angles, because they have no vision of their own, even as the Golden Goose (and American herself) is being strangled in broad daylight.

Orangeone

You have a great point. I cannot stand they have libtards on their shows and allow them to talk, talk, talk and our side is way under represented.

SiennaP

This is simply not true. Libs get to talk and then they are rebuked by conservatives who make a better point than if they only talked amongst themselves. In fact, I think their liberals are very weak and therefore they don’t allow us to make our points more forcefully. Juan is a sweet guy but he’s not that smart. Bob Beckel? Goodness, he can’t even articulate a good sentence but Kirsten Powers, for example is excellent and fair. She’s a liberal but she’s not blinded by her politics. She’s the only one I have EVER heard buck her own party. All of this is good for conservatism.

Was that recent? I was wondering if she quit to pursue political office again!

StandProudNow

She had their permission to do so.

Patriot077

I’m sorry she is gone from FOX but she’s savvy enough to know when to move on. Any network that hires Dennis Kucinich and still has Juan Williams on the roster makes me doubt their “conservative” creds even more … Sarah will land on her feet and she won’t have to wallow with the fanatics.

crosshr

don’t forget Beckle ,Comes & horatio( heraldo)

MLCBLOG

Where do you get this info? Is it true, or conjecture stated as fact?

BostonBruin

Her Fox contract did not permit her to do interviews with other TV networks. She couldn’t even go on Mark Levin’s show without their permission.

kong1967

3seven77 mentioned that, but in the sense that it pi**ed off FOX. But now I can see how it would make her quit. She doesn’t want to be limited to FOX.

Ok, I got it now.

StandProudNow

Yes. She AND we are better off with her free to say and do whatever she wants. IMO.

She cancelled a contract that was quite lucrative…

And how many hours per month did she work to make this handsome sum of money? Who’d cancel this unless you have other plans, or unless you feel you would compromise yourself staying with Fox…

The future all of a sudden looks a LOT brighter!!

kong1967

I hope so. I’d like to see her do something big.

AmericanDream12

Amen StandProudNow!!! And I agree with others here – now she can go on all other network and pass her message – she is FREE to talk about conservatism on CNN, MSNBC and everywhere where nobody else can do it like her. Her ratings will always be huge, does not matter where she goes.

What a GREAT news!!!

Conniption Fitz

Silenced. Alinsky-style.

PAWatcher

Alinsky tactics have definitely been used on Sarah as soon as she bounded on stage and garnered the attention of millions of conservatives. But, silenced conniption? Oh wow, I hope not. I’m hoping this is a sign Sarah is going to be more vocal. Her facebook comments and tweets have been very straight forward conservative views as usual. IMHO she will find a wide conservative audience through a new media outlet. I’ll keep following her messages……..they are the most optimistic ones I can find.

Just imagine the screaming in 2016 if she decides to run. You will not be hearing “what difference does it make” then., by then we better invest in to earplugs, and hide the kids.

marketcomp

Yes! Sarah unleashed. I knew that when Rupert Murdoch’s son came to New York that FOX news would change and that is exactly what is happening with the addition of Dennis Kucinich. I can definitely see that once respected network losing it’s credibility. I guess Sean Hannity will be next in a few more years.

sDee

I remember that. Murdoch is a globlaist. His kids are extreme left wing state capitalists.

Global media is controlled by a handful of elites.

Nothing from Fox News can be trusted.

marketcomp

Yeap, sDee! I can definitely see Roger Ailes leaving the network also and it becoming a shell of itself.

mark1955

You just Hit the nail on the head! Agree 100%!

ApplePie101

The change took place a long time back, when Fox actively promoted the 2011 debt ceiling increase. One could tell which way they were tacking as far back as 2008, though, when O’Reilly kept insisting that Obama was ‘brilliant’.

1endtimes2020

I just want to tell you how I like your ‘ApplePie101’ name. It’s making me very hungry. Ahh, apple pie. Still America’s favorite.
Isn’t tradition wonderful?

I think with Santorum, he knows how to get out there and meet the people in the grassroots.

sybilll

AbiC, just the thought of that gave me chills. My only criticism would be that PJTV needs a better social media coordinator, and not to tweet out a link to a fabulous video only to find it is *members only*.

I agree sybilll. That annoys me too as I’m not a member 😉 Are you on twitter too? If you are- look me up @ABiCduckie !!! And if you’re interested in the Constitutional Freedom Party we’re on there too @CFP4US

tshtsh

I joined a few years ago just to hear Bill Whittle the least expensive membership (Basic) was $5.

cabensg

Yeh! Whittle is pure genius. He gave a speech in front of a Tea Party crowd that was as founding father smart as you can get. Some people just have the spark and gift with words that inspires.

Nukeman60

Her message will get out, whether it’s through Fox or some other medium. Fox has decided to renew Juan Williams, Bob Beckel, and Karl Rove, so why would she want to be associated with a network that pretty much wants you to say what they tell you to say. She’s not like that. I’m sure there were many disagreements while she was there and it’s the reason you mainly saw her only on Greta.

Let’s face it, if people REALLY knew Gov. Palin and her record, her popularity would expl0de. She DOES appeal to people on both sides of the isle, even though she is a conservative. Her honesty, integrity and servant heart along with her willingness to go up against those who scr3w us, We The People, goes across party lines.

IF she were to appear on, or have a contract with, a liberal outlet, she could reach a LOT of people who would never watch Fox.

Anyway, she is smart as a fox, so whatever she does I’ll be supporting her 387%.

VIVA Sarah!!

waytngtym

Sarah Palin, someone said to me, lives more life in five months than most people live in a lifetime.

Such a wonder that femlibs are so threatened by her, when she already has accomplished more, and can competently do more, than many of them put together.

poljunkie

I try to keep up.

Unfortunately we dont have the cash to do the things she and her hubby does on short notice, but we try to have as much fun.

Hey guys, she is just a chick from the past, born and raised with common sense, and didn’t sell out to the PC crowd. Millions of chicks like her were born with those traits, but most of them became sellouts. A prime example is the LSM. And that’s not the only place, just to see what’s happening to our culture says enough, and a lot of the man folks should take a hard look at them selves in the mirror as well.

waytngtym

“Liked” this by accident…would follow Sarah there to support her, and watch how her brave soul would handle the battle on the front line–again!!!

Terrenceor

Free at last, God almighty free at last. I look forward to a book and book tour Maybe. Will listen to Levin tonight to see if she shows up there, now that she doesn’t have to ask permission.

3seven77

Expect to see the leftist nitwits cheering that Sarah got “canned by FOX” in …. well, it’s probably already started.

Fox stinks just like the rest of the communist LSM. If Hannity has any credibility left, he’d leave that pathetic network and act like the conservative he claims to be.

BHliberty

I agree Martin! Now it’s just a bunch of watered down news. I can catch informative and detailed breaking news on the internet by just a click!

c4pfan

I am looking forward to what Sarah does next! I knew that Sarah wouldn’t be back, because what is the use to being on for 2 mins when you want to affect things more?

c4pfan

Wasn’t Sanford supposed to be working for Fox News or did he decide to run for the Congress seat in SC instead?

BostonBruin

He is running for Congress for the open seat left by Tim Scott.

stevenbiot

Fox is a mixed political network. They are definitely not conservatives over there. Screw em!

daisy_mae

Love my rogue for all the right reasons Governor Palin! Brilliant!! Unshackled and free to speak!!!

Sense_n_Sensibility

Faux News has enough credibility problems … but it sounds like they make have alleviated themselves of one.

c4pfan

Sarah brought them creditility and had great interviews.

stevenbiot

You getting trigger happy with that post button, or is it tardive dyskinesia?

BHliberty

LOL!

Sense_n_Sensibility

LOL —- Tourette!

sDee

Ah a Sarah Palin story on TRS – here we go. The fear of Sarah Palin burns like a coal.

What they have “alleviated themselves of” is one last bit of annoying truth. But if you still foolishly cling to the notion that any print, cable or broadcast news is “credible”, than carry on in your delusion and I hope this news gives you comfort.

Sense_n_Sensibility

Couldn’t really care less …. I’m not a regular Faux viewer …
I only watch Faux during election returns …. I like to be in the enemy camp to gauge reactions…. the smell of desperation this last time was undeniable. That’s how I knew early on in the evening that Romney had lost the election, it was very quiet at campaign headquarters & the commentators back at the studio had that look of fear in their eyes. It was really quite fascinating.

I find it interesting that you only watch “Faux” news during election returns, but yet you know they are “fake”. Does that come from too much MSLSD koolaid? You wonder why people disagree with your assessments? It’s interesting to see that the one-sided points of view on that network usually come from one side only. Why is that do you think? Or isn’t that in your wheelhouse?

Faux News already has a lot of credibility problems …. sounds like they were just alleviated of one.

c4pfan

That is a flat out lie. Fox News never had any problems letting both sides have their say. You just didn’t like that people that think differently than you voiced theirs.

Sense_n_Sensibility

Yup, that’s it. I hate anyone “having their say,” I hate America, I hate Democracy and I hate people having opinions. NOT. I’m a liberal voter, “both sides” is my wheel house!

Martin2717

You’re right about you hating America, democracy and people having different opinions. That’s the communist left’s way.

Sense_n_Sensibility

Sorry … guess I didn’t realize I was dealing with cardboard cut-outs who can’t recognize sarcasm ….
Here is it: I love my country, I wish our president & our lawmakers the best in trying to straighten out this Gordian Knot we call a government, I’ll continue to vote for the people I think have ALL of our best interests at heart and I still think (after extensive travel in this old world of ours) this is the best place to live in the entire world.

Martin2717

If you love the country, then why are you voting for people like Obama who want to fundamentally change it for the worse?

Nukeman60

When you create an account to specifically comment on this thread, and no one has heard you before, the written word doesn’t scream out ‘sarcasm’ unless you state it as such. For a well read person who has ‘both sides’ as their wheel house, you should know that. But, it appears you seem to think that conservatism is the ‘enemy camp’. So, expect our responses as such.

Stating Fox news is Faux news is a red flag that gives you away every time.

Sense_n_Sensibility

Oh, I have no doubt about your last statement. But last time I checked, it’s ok to have an opinion even though it doesn’t agree with my neighbor.
I may have only joined this “forum” today, but that doesn’t make my statements any less valid.
As for political affiliation, I have none to either predominant party. I vote one way for some things, and “the other way” for other things. To me, that’s true freedom which is what’s guaranteed to me in our “Constitutional Republic,” or, as I like to call it, The United States of America.
Although I don’t really feel it warrants an answer, I think the “enemy camp” is the one of the candidate I do not support … regardless of affiliation. And, to answer the “flagging” comments, I have not “flagged” anyone, simply responded to comments.
If you want to control all comments homogeneously, you may want to put that in the membership requirements so those of us who have a different opinion know we’re not welcome.

Nukeman60

I’ll have to call you on not flagging anyone. It’s not nice to attempt to fool mother nature (or mother duckie, as the case may be). Opposite opinions are accepted on this site, but it appears you don’t like opposite opinions. Too bad. You didn’t really expect to not be called on your points of view, did you?

You haven’t been banned because you haven’t violated the comments policies, but you certainly will get called out. If it’s too hot for you, you know what you can do, don’t you? (wrong answer: flagging everyone that responds to you, including the moderator, wasn’t the right answer).

Sense_n_Sensibility

Guess I’m not familiar with the “flagging” procedure here … if that’s what I am doing, sorry. Just clicking “reply” to specific commentary — if that results in a “flag,” I wasn’t aware, as this is not how it’s done on other websites.

As for the temp. here, it’s not too hot …. I’m just getting bored with the same ol’ same ol’ ….. “I’m a troll,” and “I’m not too bright because no one could say what I’m saying & have an intellect,” etc. etc.

I like a good old-fashioned discussion, but I think this may be the wrong place for that. It seems more like a “fan site.”

I AM enjoying some of the later posts with objective analysis of Palin, Fox & the subject of the article, pro and con. Now THERE are some people who have their ducks in a row.

Nukeman60

Nice, now that you know people see you ‘flagging’, I’m sure the flagging will diminish from every time you get a reply to virtually ‘never’, then. You know full well what it takes to flag. It’s too obvious to a person of your self-declared intellect to think that hitting reply only is what causes it. Nice try.

So starting a comment on a conservative site with Fox news being ‘fake’ news is having good old-fashioned’ discussions. Hmmm, I’m old fashioned and that doesn’t equate the same to me. Try that again, then.

Lastly, if you don’t know what the comments policy is, perhaps you should read it before starting battles with the locals. There are many ways to get banned (for all of us) and it would be wise to know them – if you plan on having more ‘discussions’ with us, that is. If you plan on merely hit and run, then I guess it’s a waste of time.

Hmmm — guess it’s NOT me. Sounds like I’M not the one doing the flagging, but THIS guy ….. is he one of the moderators? I didn’t THINK I’d said anything abusive …….. guess I didn’t.

“Bob Scoop Just now in reply to AmericanborninCanada
ABIC- You may want to compare the IP addresses and you will see that Sense N Sense is NOT the one flagging. I am flagging because according to the rules he is allowed to post his opinion as long as he isn’t attacking anyone on this board which he is not, but YOU and others are attacking him which is BREAKING the rules. So, duck do you think rules only apply to others or do they apply for everyone?”

Nukeman60

‘Hmmm — guess it’s NOT me’ – SnS

Quite frankly, I really don’t care. You can flag me all day. It’s up to the moderators to decide what is in violation. But declaring another poster (BoB Scoop – interesting choice for a name) who has created an account solely to flag everyone talking to you is a bit of a stretch for believability – even for you liberals (oops, there was an insult, liberal. sorry).

Talk away, create as many accounts as you need (I saw one person make 7 extra accounts just to ‘like’ himself that many times. Ego is a tough thing to combat, I guess). It really doesn’t matter. Try to make reasonable comments about the topic if you want, or tell people that they are ignorant and stupid (without actually saying the words, of course – gotta remember Alinsky). Either way, I couldn’t care, one way or the other. I will voice my opinion just like you will voice yours.

waytngtym

good work. you have the perfect moniker…

wodiej

Joining a forum just to post opposition on a Sarah Palin thread does indeed make your opinion invalid. Not rocket science.

RUexperienced

We have heard for years that the reason Sarah Palin would not let herself be interviewed by any other networks was because of her Fox News contract.

Now that she is free of her contract, let’s see if she can withstand interviewers who are less friendly that her coworkers at Fox.

Interesting that all the flags appearing are those responding to you. You’re welcome here to comment, we have no problems with different opinions, but like Nukeman said, it’s hard to welcome someone who comes in swinging. Read the comment rules up top, be civil and folks will respond in kind. Deal? Or you’re welcome to go visit Mother Jones.

ABIC- You may want to compare the IP addresses and you will see that Sense N Sense is NOT the one flagging. I am flagging because according to the rules he is allowed to post his opinion as long as he isn’t attacking anyone on this board which he is not, but YOU and others are attacking him which is BREAKING the rules. So, duck do you think rules only apply to others or do they apply for everyone?

Sense_n_Sensibility

THANK you, Bob Scoop! For a while there, I thought I was in the “Twilight Zone!!!!”

Fine. Flag away. I didn’t see any personal attacks from the others which is why I let them all stand. I’ll apologize for my mistake to Sense for accusing him.

Orangeone

Looks like both identities were just created!

Nukeman60

Hello, Bob. I CAN call you Bob, can’t I? (Scoop just doesn’t seem right, since you’re not him). Anyway, we look forward to your many posts here at TRScoop and I’m personally interested in your viewpoints of many topics down the road (unless, of course, you’re only here to flag and in that case, it’s hard to talk to you).

But anyway, be advised that Sense did indeed attack the people on this site as much as they attacked him, merely with his insinuations of Fox, Palin, Conservatives in general, and our intelligence overall. But, hey, they’re only words. Let’s share some down the road, shall we?

Again, I’m just clicking “reply” and making comments …. no “flag” is coming up on my end. If that’s what I gotta do to make a comment or a reply, then I guess that’s what I gotta do. It may be a problem with my particular account.

I hear you about the “coming in swinging,” but, in my first comment, I just said there was already a credibility problem with the network (which from reading all the other comments seems to be a popular opinion) and basically, I didn’t think Palin was a credible personality (which is NOT a popular opinion here). ALL the vitriol came from THAT …..

As for “Mother Jones,” it’s fine …. but I find just as much fiction there.

While you didn’t break the comment rules your comment did come off as judgmental. If you don’t think Palin is credible- say why. As for fox, the only time I ever see a clip of it is on here- so I can’t judge it one way or another except that they give a heck of a lot more voice to liberals than any of the alphabet stations who are related to the present administration by marriage or funding. As for the flags, I have no idea. I just find it interesting that the only ones flagged were those who commented back to you- and now all of a sudden when you were called out on that, they stopped coming in.
You’ll notice you haven’t been kicked off. Scoop is a fair site. Just explain your points and give reasons. You’ll most likely still have a lot of folks arguing with you, but at least you’ll have given them reason 😉

Sense_n_Sensibility

Wellll…. I’m getting a little tired, sorry for the delay —got a phone call —but I will answer your one question …. I don’t consider myself “highly educated,” but I do value intellect & reasonable connections from theory to evidence & intellect. Yeah, I know …. that sounds liberal …. some of my VERY conservative Christian acquaintances say you learn a LOT of liberal, wrong-headed, anti-Christian values in college. Maybe so. Maybe the ultimate liberal is really moderate, which is what I consider myself.

While the idea of Palin’s candidacy was fresh & exciting at first, I really didn’t know much about her actual platform (and really, still don’t in a lot of areas), but found her unable to “keep up” intellectually with some of the other candidates.
One thing that made a huge impression was when she couldn’t name any “in print” periodicals or newspapers she claimed to read. Seriously? You can’t even come up with the “Washington Post?” I would’ve been more satisfied if she had even named local, Alaskan printed media.

I remember when Clinton was running the first time & the big criticism was “oh, he’s just an intellectual.” And I, with my tendency to sarcasm, was spurred to think, “right, and we certainly wouldn’t want a SMART man as president!” I really don’t know YOUR particular affiliations (except that you seem to think they’re opposite mine), so I don’t know if or why you DO support her.

For me, it just comes down to her not being prepared too many times. That whole “Paul Revere” thing was another thing …. I know it wasn’t really any kind of political platform issue, but if you don’t know the history, don’t pretend that you do …. I think if she’d said she’d have to “bone up” on the exact order of events & get back to them I’d have been more supportive. It’s just an indication of thought process & problem solving …. hers doesn’t jibe with what I want from competent politicians.

Nukeman60

‘One thing that made a huge impression was when she couldn’t name any “in print” periodicals or newspapers she claimed to read.’ – SnS

When she was initially asked, she was trying not to endorse any particular one. When pressed, she decided to name a few of the many that she did does read. The LameStream made a big deal of it, she did not ‘claim’ to read any.

‘That whole “Paul Revere” thing was another thing – SnS

Do you claim to know the true story of what she said and do you believe she didn’t know what she was talking about? Perhaps more study is in order. Be careful that the history you learn in your school system may not be the real deal. For example, the schools teach the Declaration of Independence as saying “…endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights…” when in fact it is “unalienable”. So beware what you learn, for it may not be the correct truth (MSNBC teachs the truth, but it is the truth of their own making).

Sense_n_Sensibility

Uhhhhh…..that wasn’t the discussion (Declaration Of Independence), but if you want to believe Sarah Palin’s account of what is a very well-known event in American history …. have at it:

As for endorsement of printed media …. actually she didn’t say she was trying not to endorse any particular publications, but that she felt she was being made to look unintelligent – her statement afterward was:

“My response to her, I guess it was kind of filtered. But, I was sort of taken aback, like, the suggestion was, you’re way up there in a far away place in Alaska. You know, that there are publications in the rest of the world that are read by many. And I was taken aback by that because I don’t know, the suggestion that this was a little bit of perhaps we’re not in tune with the rest of the world.”

Have you ever seen the entire Katie Couric interviews? Not just what they spliced together to show the American people, but the entire set of interviews. It is an obvious attempt to smear her. They do show entire interviews on MSNBC sometimes, don’t they. I doubt if you can find it on Wikipedia, either.

I’m curious as to what was wrong with Palin’s voice in that second You-tube video. Seems like she was coming down with something.

Edit: btw, the DoI point was exactly to prove to you that something that is supposedly well-known in the culture isn’t always true. You keep helping us prove our points. Thanks.

Sorry I have to respond up here because the thread is wearing thin and there was no response button below. Have you ever seen or read any of her stuff? I’m not the most knowledgeable one about her- I’m sure others know a lot more than I do- but I know she did get a lot of unwarranted flack from the media. Her Paul Revere statement was actually correct. It was the media which got it wrong. You can read this- seems objective enough: http://www.newser.com/story/120316/historians-say-sarah-palin-was-right-about-paul-revere.html
The thing is too, that everyone made fun of her for saying things like “I can see Russia from my house” But they fail to understand, it wasn’t her who said that. It was Tina Fey on Saturday Night Live as Sarah saying that.
She’s actually a very intelligent woman. She may have not had the best speeches back when she was running with McCain, but actually when the handlers left her alone, she did better.
As for my affiliations, I’m not a citizen yet, so I can’t vote. I’m not a Republican, definitely not a democrat. I’m a Constitutional Conservative. I believe in the Constitution as it was intended by the Founders, and I don’t see much of that goin’ on in the Republican party and definitely not in the democrat party.
I don’t mind a good heated discussion- I’ve had plenty. I’m not too wild with Intellect because some folks get carried away in mighty words, but short on common sense. I like to stick to the K.I.S.S. rule- Keep it simple silly. 😉

Her seeing Russia comment actually was: “They’re our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.”

People need to do their OWN research rather than believe things they read on Facebook or in those cute little cartoons & memes everyone thinks are so clever. Generally, if it’s been said or done, you can find a first-hand source somewhere or it’s on YouTube ….

williamm

People on here are simply responding to your comments. No one wants you banned. Quit your whining like a little baby. Would someone please give him his pacifier?

Orangeone

Not in Barky’s world it isn’t, off to Gitmo for those that disagree with the fraud-in-chief.

white531

Good luck.

Nukeman60

Yep, a liberal voter. You own it now. Welcome to reality. Just watch how it all comes crashing down around you. Pray that there is a conservative next door with weapons to protect you when your society hits the fan. Then again, I doubt that you will even see it coming.

Orangeone

Well some of us conservatives have chosen not to defend liberal neighbors…after all, they are the ones that want us disarmed….so Sense better hope not located in my neighborhood.

No fear of that. Liberals have a herd mentality and that herd wouldn’t come close to you or me, lol. 🙂

Orangeone

I feel sorry for the children of libs, at risk because their parents won’t take reasonable steps to protect them at home or at school.

Orangeone

Sense is backkkkkk, accused me of saying I wanted her kids shot….

Nukeman60

Yeah, I saw that. It’s just her way of saying she wants an “old fashioned discussion”, but then we won’t let her. You might as well flag yourself.

Orangeone

Hee hee

Nukeman60

Her answer to my gun question gave away that she knows absolutely nothing about guns. That is why liberals are so afraid of them. Guns scare liberals and they don’t want to learn anything.

Orangeone

LOL

Nukeman60

She’s gone now, btw. I don’t know if she left to research her next answers to me or just because she had nothing more that she could dance around. But at any rate, she’s temporarily off to never-never-land (she went to College in California and in DC, so God only knows where that land is).

Orangeone

I heard there is an upcoming NASA launch to Mars to look for life and the latest iPhone version, perhaps she’s on that flight 🙂

Nukeman60

According to her, she is on her third book and I think she is observing that creature poisonous to liberals called “the conservative”. It appears to have distressed her to no end to be forced to be among them, but I suspect after a dose of medication (from Obamacare, I sense, but not sure if it is an abortifacient or not), then, like Ahhnold, she will be back.

Orangeone

ROTFLMBO today! She really only needs to read one book but clinging to that would make her appear conservative! I smell a large individual mandate ObamaTax going her direction too!

Nukeman60

I’m looking forward to further discussions with her. Every time we talk, she reveals a bit more of herself. I’ll have it all before we’re done – the fact that she got government aid through Obama to go to College, the fact that they are using the same social security number, that she’s probably not even a US citizen after living on a boat most of her life, etc. This “old-fashioned discussion” that she claims to desire is very informative. 🙂

I’ll bet, though, when she comes back, she will know the first rule of gun safety. She probably has spent the entire afternoon making calls, searching the internet, and desperately asking around for the solution – just so she can come back here and say, “ah ha, I do know guns”.

Orangeone

Another great spit alert post oh wise Nukeman! Be sure to ping me when she returns so I too can learn….

Not entirely accurate. Our forefathers used the words Democracy and Republic interchangeably. Even in a Republic representatives must be elected. This is why we are a Democratic Republic. Unfortunately, today too many people have bought into the Frank Luntz nonsense that we are a “Constitutional Republic”. And as we can see from history, that particular phrase was never used by our﻿ forefathers. This new phrase is just the GOP’s way of delegitimizing the Democratic party.

Orangeone

Ignorance is bliss. The United States of America is a Constitutional Republic. You might want to have a chat with those public school unionbot teachers you had….

Really. Is that why the terms democratic, democracy, or democrat appear nowhere in the Declaration of Independence? How about section 4,article 4 of the Constitution which sets up each State to be a Republic?

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!”
Benjamin Franklin

“Hold on, my friends, to the Constitution and to the Republic for which it stands. Miracles do not cluster, and what has happened once in 6000 years, may not happen again. Hold on to the Constitution, for if the American Constitution should fail, there will be anarchy throughout the world.”
Daniel Webster

“If it be asked what is to restrain the House of Representatives from making legal discriminations in favor of themselves and a particular class of the society? I answer, the genius of the whole system, the nature of just and constitutional laws, and above all the vigilant and manly spirit which actuates the people of America, a spirit which nourishes freedom, and in return is nourished by it.”
James Madison

We are a Republican Government Bound by the Constitution. The founders intended for this nation to be a Constitutional Republic.

Nukeman60

Okay, there were no smears, no slams, no derogatory comments. There were no right-wing fanaticism, no Tea Party racism, no Conservative bigotry. There were only quotes from the founding fathers and statements of fact only. So what will they do now, when they can’t really flag you.

I’ll tell you what they will do. Nothing. They will not respond (and I say ‘they’ loosely, ’cause I believe, even though you apologized, that those two were one in the same person).

May god bless our AMERICA built by wise forefathers. May the wisdom of our days generation both young and old take a close look at the original Blue Print the Constitution one more time during the midst of this stormy night at sea.

Without the Constitution, we may as well have a 40 years wondering around in the wilderness and many may miss the promised destiny after we were brought out from where we were all at from the start of our individual life’s long journey

The United States was founded as a Republic, not a Democratic Republic. The German Democratic Republic, a communist state commonly known as East Germany, and the Democratic Republic of the Congo which in 2011 was rated by Freedom House as a “not free” country having a rating of 6.0 (1.0 being completely free and 7.0 being completely unfree), were both examples of “Democratic Republics”. Hmmm…

We are slowly being fundamentally transformed into a Democratic Republic, soon to be a Dictatorship, and that is why we are fighting to turn it around. Throw your ‘advanced’ American History books away and watch history in the making.

white531

This is just me, but I don’t want anyone like you, anywhere near a voting place. Because I don’t think you are qualified to make that judgement, that I have to then live with.

TheGuestHere

Hee Hee. I just saw this. Nice “voter suppression” attitude. I believe there are a couple of amendments in that big, bad, old Constitution that guarantee me the right to vote. And I did! And I worked HARD to rock the vote for our President. Even in a usually red state, people like me got a majority for the reelection. I’m proud of it. You can tell me I have to “live with my choice” until the cows come home. I know it. And I don’t have any problems with that. Palin wasn’t the game changer, Obama is. And we win the game. Palin isn’t the problem, she just panders to try and expand her fifteen minutes. Don’t you wish you were famous? At least Palin has charisma. And great legs.
edited for spelling, but I probably still spelled something wrong. It’s bound to happen when you are a human like me and not a god like you.

white531

Well, I can see you’re intelligent, because it only took two days for you to respond to a comment I made on a thread that is already dead.

What that means is, your comment was probably only seen by me. And I’m not the least impressed.

Trolls fall into different categories. The category you fall into, is those who scour all the Conservative sites and pick comments to respond to that are too old to mean anything anymore. Because we have all moved on to more current topics.

It is obvious why you do it. A six year old could tell you. By replying to a comment that is already two days old, you insure yourself from having to deal with the entire Scoop membership.

The only bell your comment rang was mine, and I don’t really care what you happen to think. To me, you’re just another Liberal Idiot.

Nukeman60

Not to worry, White. Nuke is always prowling somewhere. You might want to check out what Bruce Jaquith wrote about you on this thread. Seems you’re a racist ’cause you don’t like illegal immigrants flooding this country. I responded at the time, though, so he left for MediaMatters. 🙂

white531

Nuke, I have so many good friends on this site. My first impulse would be to say you are the best. Ten seconds later, I would have to retract that, because if I started to list then all here, I wouldn’t get to bed before midnight.

Let me just say you and I think alike. If that forms the basis of a friendship, then so be it. Regardless, I just enjoy your presence here. Best way I can put it.

Nukeman60

Ditto, my friend. I’ll have your back when you’re not around. When you are around, I don’t need to, ’cause you take care of it yourself quite nicely, lol. 🙂

white531

I don’t know who Bruce Jaquith is, nor do I really care. It may matter to him, but it does not matter to me.

PAWatcher

Sarah Palin does not have a credibility problem…….she has been vetted more than any person in the nation……..her credibility can be banked on.

sDee

Ah a Sarah Palin story on TRS – here we go. The fear of Sarah Palin burns like a coal.

What they have “alleviated themselves of” is one last bit of annoying truth. But if you still foolishly cling to the notion that any print, cable or broadcast news is “credible”, than carry on in your delusion and I hope this news gives you comfort.

Betsey_Ross

The trolls have come out of the woodwork on this bit of Sarah Palin news. They are everywhere there is a Sarah Palin story. Snarky, stupid, wrong, etc, etc. It’s all there. It’s been quiet here, but they are out in full force all over the internet tonight. Gee, I wonder why?

My comment on this story: Hot Dog! Sarah’s free to move about the country.

Orangeone

And I have a list of 2014 Senate seats for her to vet candidates for!

sDee

Ah a Sarah Palin story on TRS – here we go. The fear of Sarah Palin burns like a coal.

What they have “alleviated themselves of” is one last bit of annoying truth. But if you still foolishly cling to the notion that any print, cable or broadcast news is “credible”, than carry on in your delusion and I hope this news gives you comfort.

oregonproud

Actually, I enjoy going on Huffpuke and interjecting “Sarah Palin” a couple of times and watching their heads explode for the next 20 minutes. Hey, I”m retired, I get my fun where and when I can..

And ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, PBS and major newspapers/magazines do? Communist leftist trolls like you can watch Fox now and who cares about the GOP? They’re irrelevant just like yourself.

Sense_n_Sensibility

I don’t consider a voting citizen with an intellect who obviously reads & views various sources a “troll,” but if that’s your definition, fine.
Last time I heard, we all have a right to voice an opinion as long as it’s not abusive or illegal.

Martin2717

If that’s your point of view then you better tell that to the rest of your leftist pals because they definitely don’t share the same opinion as you do.

JRD1

You are the typical non informed voter who resides on the Democrat plantation. You don’t think and allow the Center for American Oppression to think for you and tell you what to do.

c4pfan

How lame.

Orangeone

Well enjoy it while you can, Barky’s going after the 1st Amendment now that his attack on the 2nd has failed.

You’re hilarious. You come on here start complaining about people only watching one side of news, then flag everyone you don’t agree with. Way to show the tolerance. Typical.

Nukeman60

I bet he thought he wouldn’t get caught. Definitely watches MSNBC, that’s too obvious. Not to mention, lefties always like to name things just the opposite of what they are – “Affordable Care Act” that no one can afford, “Gun Control laws” that can’t control guns, “Sense_n_Sensibility” that gets his common sense from common MSNBC or Jon Stewart, and uses talking-point words like “Faux News”. Yeah, that’s sensible.

Good, because Fox was using her as a conservative prop. She’s better off staying away from that GOPe mouthpiece.

DeeDEEthree

This is great news this is the best part of the article. the source close to Palin told RCP. “She remains focused on broadening her message of common-sense conservatism across the country and will be expanding her voice in the national discussion.”

StandProudNow

Woo-Hoo!!

sjmom

Its a bad sign for Fox; hiring Kucinich and Sarah leaving. Shows what we’ve been saying; they’ve made a left turn. We need a new conservative network.

Landscaper

If I may. TV’s are best turned off with few exceptions at our house. Sports and the weather.
The internet for visits to TRS, a few others and emails.

oregonproud

Thanks for the comment . I too, don’t even try TV anymore except when trapped in motel rooms. I even get the weather on the ‘puter. My SO, on the other hand, is addicted to the nightly “news”” and we sometimes have heated discussions about what she is seeing. As she proclaims to be a con, I can only hope that some disbelief takes place. :-))

Linky1

That’s why I stopped watching FOX a while ago. If you don’t like what you see, turn it off. There’s plenty of good sites on the Internet for real news.

SUN News in Canada is my alternative-they are what FOX once was-fearless, unafraid of the truth, with enough cheek to make the news enjoyable.

Sense_n_Sensibility

So glad I could give haters a united purpose today …. Goodness forbid anyone offer a differing opinion without first offering a disclaimer.
I’ve listened to ALL sides here today, but really only heard one: I’m wrong & how dare I come here & “Flag” anyone (actually, I didn’t “flag” anyone, just answered or responded by clicking “reply.”) or offer my thoughts.
Obviously no one here is interested in discussion, only a validation of beliefs. Sorry, can’t do that. Not for you, not for the extreme liberal “Left,” not for anyone. People have complicated brains (for the most part) and, thankfully, some of them use those brains to learn, not just to search for validation so they can feel “right.”
Oh, gosh! I made a pun!

You must be the first person ever in the world to use the ploy of dropping into a thread to insult everyone’s intelligence, and then complain about the responses you get. Why, you could open a school for trolling with that credential established.

Pretty much everyone here has heard it all and frankly no one wants to hear it anymore. Don’t act so sanctimonious. You are not messenger of some new tidbits of information on Sarah. Everyone here knows all there is to know about Sarah and believe me we all love her.

Linky1

“Anyway, my beliefs were mocked, no one offered up any discussion (only called me a troll and basically asked “how dare I?”) or had any evidence to offer & back up their beliefs. ”

So, you’re taking your toys and going home, is that what you’re trying to say??

Sense_n_Sensibility

Not exactly, but it IS getting boring …. all the “Mother Jones” & “Media Matters” (I’ve never heard of that one) references …. CNN, “Communism Weekly,” whatever else.

Some of you have one strategy and it’s NOT fact-based, but a tear down campaign. He who says the nastiest things or yells the loudest isn’t ALWAYS
right. Sometimes …. but not always. It just reinforces your “don’t confuse me with the facts” brand of politicism.

If I want to have a serious discussion about political candidates, looks like I might have to go find some grade school children. They are still interested in learning, finding good evidence & clever methods for supporting their claims and most of them still believe America to be a good place with lots of opportunities.

Nukeman60

‘If I want to have a serious discussion about political candidates, looks like I might have to go find some grade school children.’ – SnS

They are much easier to brainwash, aren’t they. Don’t get any homeschoolers, though. They might leave your ‘advanced degree’ in the dust. 🙁

Sense_n_Sensibility

Ok — you got me. Just for your personal satisfaction, I’ll cop to it. I WAS home schooled up to my teens. Then I attended a pretty good (not great) Christian private school.
I was raised on a sailboat for most of my childhood, exploring the world by sea. A great way to grow up (my dad is a Reagan wanna-be, ex-TV actor who starred in a couple of 1950s cowboy series & my mom is a “peace & love,” crunch granola, everybody love each other liberal) and although unconventional, it certainly instills a sense of family being raised in such close quarters, but can be somewhat insular.
I went to Pepperdine as an undergrad.
I did my MA @ American U. in D.C.
I teach on the college level. I’m currently on sabbatical (“Thank you, Big Pharma) to write my 3rd book … my other 2 sold … ok, but not as good as I’d have liked. Good reviews though.
My publisher thinks this one is going to be popular. It’s a “happy romp” about women in politics and an exploration of the qualities required for success during various prevailing political climates …. I know you can’t wait to read it… Online discussion groups like this one give me a LOT of insight about the fringe elements, subversive influences & downright crazies “out there in Internetland” so I like to drop in temporarily and gauge the weather. It’s hot as Hades in this one! Some people around here are REALLY heated up!
I have a whole chapter about Sarah Palin. However, not the most compelling person in the book, by far.
So, you see, whatever Mrs. Palin does, it’s just cake for me. I look forward to her “next move,” even if it’s just being a mother and riding snow machines with her hubby into the sunset.

Nukeman60

Hello, Bobette. Nice to see you back. I knew you couldn’t stay away. I see you’ve started with your “old-fashioned discussion” trend that you desire so much. So let’s begin.

You were home-schooled through your teens, but yet you think it is better to talk to public school kids for your political edification. Interesting. Do you feel they learned more than you?

I see you admitted that you’ve been “out to sea” for a long time now. Then you went to Pepperdine. I would have guessed Cornell. Did you get your ‘advanced degree” in American History at Pepperdine. Hmmm, seems like the wrong venue for that. No, I guess that would be American University, where you could hobknob with the DC elite. Very fine.

So your on your third book. Fascinating. I would love to read your first two. What are they titled? I’m always interested in reading liberal works. I’ve got Alinsky’s ‘Rules for Radicals’ and Lakoff’s ‘The Little Blue Book’, both of which it appears you have read and familiarized yourself with.

So you have an entire chapter on Sarah Palin in your third book, and yet you claimed last night that you knew little about her. Well, that sounds typical of the left – writing about something you know little about. I’m sure you will be spot on, then.

Unlike what you have said today to others (accusing someone of going after your kids when all they said was they had a concern for them – very poor taste on your part, I must say. Not very becoming of a lady), you at least have a story to tell me. I wish you all the luck with your new book. Not sure that us ‘fringe element types’ can help you, but then like you said, the first two books didn’t sell very well, so we won’t expect too much from the third. So surprising.

Enjoy your stay.

Garym

Do you actually think you are fooling anyone here with your moronic “ignorance” that you are feigning. We as Palin supporters have seen and heard it all from the likes of you.
As K-Bob said above, your real purpose here is to insult our intelligence and act like you can’t get an argument out of us.

Sense_n_Sensibility

It ain’t tough! Losers (of elections) are always itchin’ for a fight. I guess they think it’s their only recourse at this point. Four years is a LONG time. Eight years is even longer.

Steven

Let’s face it, Sarah Palin is done. Her time came and went. She blew it when she resigned as governor and didn’t follow up by running for the GOP nomination. She squandered whatever political capital she had by going after being a celebrity and making her millions. The choice was hers through and through, but now she has painted herself in a corner and frankly she will never rise to the level John McCain put her in 2008. It’s time for the bitter clinging Palinistas to let go. I am sad to say it, but it has to be said because it was always there in front of us.

To be honest I let go as a Palinista when she decided not to run in 2012, though I should have let go when she resigned the governorship. I knew that that move was ridiculous, but for whatever reason I just wanted to believe she had something up her sleeve and that she would outsmart the Left and the elites yet! Boy, that was foolish! Fundamentals are what they are. You can’t defy gravity for long and in politics, Palin couldn’t continue to do the things she and her family were doing the past few years and still come out smelling like roses!

When FOX doesn’t want to have anything to do with you, then you know that your prominent spot on the conservative pecking has diminished. I wish Palin good luck in her private life and if she has political aspiration again, she will have to regain the trust of Alaskans again, but I doubt they’ll give her another chance. Sad day, especially because she is one of the few genuine articles in politics. But the country will get on and there are others who can lead and I am sure she’ll be there to support them in the future. I just hope now people will stop wasting their lives in hope that Palin will somehow become president of the United States. Ha! She’ll be lucky to ever be Mayor of Wasilla again!

wodiej

You were never a Palin supporter ever. Didn’t you read the article? Fox wanted her, SHE didn’t want FOX.

Sense_n_Sensibility

Actually, I WAS …. for a VERY brief time until she opened her mouth on some issues and I didn’t agree with her.
On paper, she seemed pretty good …. I don’t know if it was the lack of political experience or other shortcomings, but I quickly decided I had been wrong & could not vote for her.

wodiej

You said you wanted a serious discussion so what issues did you not agree w her on? You already admitted you were a liberal and if you ever considered voting for her in the first place, you were one of very few.

Sense_n_Sensibility

Dangerous to make generalizations like that … my VERY liberal spouse was initially dazzled by Sarah Palin’s “unspoiled” quality … but quickly decided a more “seasoned” team was what was needed.

JRD1

Typical non informed voter. Refuses to answer.

c4pfan

What the heck are you talking about? Sarah didn’t know how many would buy her book? She was given opportunities that were great and I don’t know of anything where she didn’t treat others with respect.

Orangeone

And Barky Boy was only “seasoned” with grilling dog for dinner with a few spices on top.

“Let’s face it, Sarah Palin is done. Her time came and went. She blew it when she resigned as governor ”
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Sarah Palin served 32 out of 48 months; the same percentage that Obama served of his Senate term (not including the two-year break he spent campaigning) and Sarah Palin accomplished everything she set out to do in 2/3 of the time.

Upon her return to Alaska to resume her duties as Governor, Palin was plagued with one trumped up ethics charge after another which cost her staff dearly.

Sarah Palin resigned because she recognized the cost that the frivolous ethics complaints were having on her state , and she saw how much of her staff’s time and her own time were forced to deal with those issues.

That entire campaign of BS lawsuits was meant to do nothing but hamstring the governor’s office and bankrupt Sarah Palin.

She saw that if she stayed on as Governor it would continue to cost the state millions of dollars in wasted time and resources to defend against false and maliciously ethics complaints and doom it to gridlock.
Those frivolous lawsuits had already cost the state of AK close to $2 million; Sarah Palin had over $500,000 dollars in legal fees.

Sarah Palin knew that for the sake of her state, her country, her family, and her political voice, it would be best if she stepped aside from the governorship.

In an article Sarah Palin said:

“I said, ‘Enough. Political adversaries and their political friends in the media will not destroy my State, my administration, nor my family. Enough.’ I knew if I didn’t play their game any longer, they could not win. I would not retreat, I would instead reload, and I would fight for what is right from a different plane.”

She promised to keep the frivolous anti-Palin law suits away from the Alaskan people and to be more effective on the stump ( supporting candidates , fundraising, etc)

Sarah Palin was truthful on both accounts!!

After the 2008 election Sarah Palin helped lead Republicans to the greatest congressional victory in several generations during the 2010 election;she has endorsed 73 candidates for the US House of Representatives and Senate; state governors and attorney generals. Her success rate is at 69%.
18 out of 20 targets in her Take Back the 20 campaign ; this is a 90% success rate!

Sarah Palin also had a very strong hand in the party’s few successes during this election . Sarah Palin campaigned for constitutional conservatives llike Ted Cruz, Deb Fischer, Jeff Flake, Paul Gosar, resulting in 5 conservatives being elected to the Senate and 32 conservatives to the House.

In 2010, Sarah Palin backed South Carolina’s Tim Scott. He won in 2010 and he won the re-election. She backed other African Americans like Allen West and Mia Love. Both of those candidates narrowly lost their races by 2,000 votes in the case of Love and 1,000 votes in the case of West.

Sarah Palin has also penned commentary on such topics as the unrest in Libya, the protests in Wisconsin, Obama’s 2012 budget proposal and State of the Union address, getting tough with Iran and standing with Iranians who seek democracy, challenging the specifics of President Obama’s energy policy, the omnibus spending bill, defeating the New START, opposition to state bailouts, tax policy, a message to Republican freshmen in Congress, opposition to quantitative easing, and more.

She has repeatedly been a leading voice—via television appearances and speaking engagements—against the dangers of ObamaCare and the risks of President Obama’s approach to energy.

Sarah Palin worked tirelessly to forward the commonsense conservative agenda she had always articulated and campaigned with and for those she believed best represented the values she believes are needed in government. And she continues her work to help put government back on the side of the people.

Just an fyi, Palin declined to renew her FOX contract, FOX did not cancel her contract or fail to offer the renewal.

white531

And you no doubt have so much experience in the political process, that your words are law, and your immense wisdom lays out a path for our future. I’m glad I tuned in tonight.

Up until now, I was worried, but now I feel safe. I always knew Sarah was a loser.

PhillyCon

Well said. It’s indicative of why our side loses, isn’t it? We are so quick to declare people that we supposedly agree with and “like” as “has beens.”

Meanwhile, the other side circles the wagons to promote the true “has beens.” (read: Biden, Reid, Pelosi). Yet, we continue to navel gaze and analyze “what’s wrong with the Republican Party/conservative/fill in the blank.

Maybe, the problem is with ourselves.

wodiej

This will give her time to pursue more ambitious goals, whatever they may be. God bless you Gov. Palin

Orangeone

I’d like to place my order for 2014:

1. Ted Cruz pt II for MN
2. Ted Cruz pt III for Boehner’s district
3. Ted Cruz pt III through xxx for all the other 2014 US Senate Seats currently held by Dems and RINOs

Oh dear …. more accusation & sarcasm.
I’ll answer you clearly & honestly however.
I DO generally only watch Fox on certain occasions, but I find them to be wholly one-sided. I prefer only to watch news presented without commentary when I’m watching “news.” That is rarely something I can find on Fox. That is why I refer to them as “Faux,” because they insist on using “News” in their title. As far as unbiased news, that’s hard to find. I’m looking for — and have yet to find — a “Dragnet” style “just the facts, ma’m” kind of news network …. but alas, it’s not profitable to JUST report the news. Sad.

c4pfan

That’s another lie, because ABC, CBS and NBC have been shown to fall for a fake girlfriend, fake documents on a sitting President, etc. Don’t give me the BS of only telling one side.

Nukeman60

Dragnet was a fake Hollywood show, you realize.

Sense_n_Sensibility

Huh …..I could’a SWORN it was a documentary!
Thanks for settin’ me straight.
Or………AM I ………..?

Nukeman60

‘Or………AM I ………..?’ – SnS

Or are you what? Are you straight? Your sexual preference is your own business. You aren’t making sense.

BTW, have you studied up on Paul Revere yet, or do you need a night watching Maddow first?

Sense_n_Sensibility

Please take your mind out of the gutter. Sexuality was never mentioned.
The response was “or AM I set straight?”
I hope that clears it up.

BTW, I have an advanced degree in American History. Paul Revere is one of the things covered there.

Maddow? Only seen her a few times … but she DOES seem intelligent. From what I understand she’s a Rhodes Scholar. Just like Clinton. And Kris Kristofferson. But from what I understand, he doesn’t have a show.

Nukeman60

Like I said, your sexuality is your own business. I could care less. The setting is what you said I did. The straight is what you said you were. Hence, the question about “am I” was for clarity.

And Obama has a Nobel Peace Prize. What’s your point? Oh, I know. You’re all from acedamia. That puts you right in the same group as them. Should we bow? No, it’s Obama who does the bowing. So if you’re like Obama, do you bow too?

An advanced degree? Would that be a High School, an Associate’s, a Bachelor’s, a Master’s, or something advanced that we are not privy to yet?

Sense_n_Sensibility

Bow ….now!
Brown cow.

I’m done interacting with you in particular. It’s a round robin to nowhere.
Wouldn’t want to confuse YOU with the facts or any sensible thinking.

As for us, in the “intelligencia,” I wish to offer a VERY sincere “thank you” for not supporting any cause I support. I’m not a genius, but it doesn’t take one to see talking to you is a losing game. I’ve had fun with THIS game, but sounds like I’ve gotten you worked up enough to fuel you through several more sarcastic, pedantic rants. I’m pretty satisfied with that.

Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m off to participate in a joint “No Nukes/Repeal the 2nd Amendment” rally and make sure my committee to appropriate your tax dollars for cat abortions has their posters made.

Hasta, Baby!

Nukeman60

Yawn, I was getting bored anyway. Thanks for the entertainment.

Btw, it was academia, not ‘intelligencia’. In spite of your ego, they are nowhere near the same. You should have learned that, but I’m not surprised you didn’t, with your ‘advanced’ degree and all.

Come on over anytime. If you ever need the assistance of us gun-totin’ conservatives after you realize you have no 2nd amendment rights anymore. I’m sure we will be able to find someone to come to your aid…someone…I’m sure…

One last thing. I love it the way you, and your alter-ego Bob, went from crying about personal comments about you to attempting to throw whatever barbs you thought might hurt at us. I did find it humorous and for that I thank you. Maybe next time you will be able to answer at least one of the points made against you. Ciao.

Oh, btw, since you like Wikipedia so much (must be your advanced degree and how you arrived at it), intelligencia has more than one meaning. So let me get you out of the comics for a little while, may I:

Oy — were I interested in such things — it’s like shootin’ fish in a barrel!
Now ….. let’s talk about Hillary Clinton’s presidential win!

Nukeman60

It looked like Obama to me, but hey, if you think it was Hillary, then by all means, celebrate away. The next few years are going to be very interesting. Let’s hope Hillary doesn’t fall and hit her head – oh, that’s right, no vital organs. She’s okay.

I thought you were bored, btw. Piers Morgan not on yet?

white531

Sense, I really have to tell you I enjoyed that immensely.

Freedom is not for everyone. It is only for those individuals among us who don’t believe in a massive Federal Government telling us how we should live.

I thought your comment was funny beyond belief. But then, anything Liberals do, is immensely amusing to me, you included.

In case you missed this minor point, the Nukeman, and everything he posts on this site, represents everything we believe in.

So, when you try to make fun of Nuke, you are really trying to make fun of Scoop. Because Nuke IS Scoop.

I don’t think I can make it any more plain than that. I hope you come back often, because you are really fun! I always thought Liberals were boring. You just gave me a new perspective!

Nukeman60

Wow, White. I’m flattered (although, you may have to apologize to Scoop for the comparison). I was wondering why you had ‘liked’ the last comment. I thought I missed something, lol.

white531

Nuke, I ‘liked it,” because I enjoy Liberal contributors who come here. I, “like” them, because I want to keep them here as long as possible. To make fun of them and expose them for what they are. Forgive me, it is a personal perversion.

The comments I made in your direction, were legitimate.

Nukeman60

Yeah, I suspected as much from your ‘like’. Your comments are always appreciated and enjoyed, no matter the topic.

lol. I have to admit, I’ve been smiling like an idiot for the last half hour reading these. 😉

Sense_n_Sensibility

Thanks ….. nice to know you have one little place in our Democratically-led country that makes you feel comfortable.
Just happy I could be there for you.

white531

I “sense” that you are giving up on us, no pun intended. Well, maybe a little. 🙂

Still, if you want to stay here and participate in the Conservative dialogue that permeates this site, I think it might be good for you. We’re always here to educate you on what personal freedom really means.

Here’s a thought. Why don’t you run out all the possible futures America faces, based on the number of choices she has, relative to the options for our future Obama has given us. Decide which one of those futures you are are comfortable with.

You seem to be an intelligent man. Take a moment in your busy life and tell me what you think this Messiah is going to do for us.

All we believe in, is personal Freedom. Limited Government.

What is there, about that concept, that so enrages Liberals?

Nukeman60

Just checked in 11 hours later and all I hear is —–> crickets. Hmmm…

Perhaps, she’s gone back to her American History books and is formulating a plan. Watch out for the counterattack in 3…2…1……..

Orangeone

Enjoy the latest Unconstitutional finding on your fraudster-in-chief today. Impeach shall soon begin. Please pop extra popcorn because you won’t be able to afford much else as employer continue to identify and layoff the liberals.

Sense_n_Sensibility

Can’t win ’em all.
And I LOVE popcorn.

Orangeone

Please post a “Gun Free Zone” sign in your front yard so conservatives in your neighborhood know who never to defend. And if you have underage children, Child Protective Services should be knocking on your door.

Sense_n_Sensibility

Yeeee-Haw, way to go after my kids. You must have NRA leadership aspirations to call parenting abilities and “I hope someone shoots you” rhetoric into a political description. To reference someone’s children like that … just like the NRA “used” the president’s daughters in their ad and just like MSNBC went after Trig. It’s just in bad taste no matter your agenda. I’ve heard an expression: “all of her taste is in her mouth.” I’m thinking that may apply here.
I say go for it! If you are already a member of the NRA (that’s a slam dunk, from reading your comment), you need to let them know how eager you are to help run the joint. They already have a few of you, but I’m sure they can use more, the way they’re accidentally shooting each other at gun shows! That’s pretty sad & ironic. Shalom.

Orangeone

You made the decision to be a gun-free zone and place your children at risk of harm by pedophiles, kidnappers, rapists and murderers, not me. I never said that I hope someone shoots you, but LET ME BE CLEAR (dear leader’s language) I shall not defend you, your spouse, your child if in harm’s way nor shall I defend anyone else that does not support and uphold the Constitution of the United States. Give the cops a call because they are only minutes away when your perp is within reaching distance.
Typical libtard, push the blame of their stupid decisions onto others, failure to take responsibility.

Nukeman60

I just realized she is a child of Hollywood, raised on a boat (probably because her liberal Hollywood parents were evicted from their Malibu retreat ’cause Daddy couldn’t get anymore TV western spots), then moved on to the DC bubble where she found a comfy atmosphere within the liberal elites.

All this tells me she probably doesn’t even have kids. The profile doesn’t fit her (another good reason why she would feign outrage at you “attacking” her “kids”).

Orangeone

Keen observations! And let’s remember, children are a burden to liberal women…maybe she has one of those old plastic dolls that doesn’t even take a bottle or piddle out the bottom end, totally work-free

crosshr

sorta noticed a self made so called expert on almost everything although extended only to your keyboard where you spew your nonsensical BS on an hourly basis.

your attitude is so much of an expensive call guy one spend huge amount upon only to find out, dude you were castrated !(pardon my construction mouth)

Orangeone

Gigglesnort my Nuke friend 🙂

Orangeone

Dragnet is actually back on the air here and they are true events!

Nukeman60

Yeah, I knew that when I replied to her. I used to watch the original, back in the day, and they were somewhat based on actual stories as well. The show is still a fake Hollywood drama (Jack Webb hated guns, btw) and I was having fun.

I was disappointed that she didn’t claim that “just the facts, ma’am” was actually said, because like Palin’s non-quote of “seeing Russia from my front porch”, neither phrase was actually said in reality.

Orangeone

It’s the original Dragnet that we have on. I didn’t know that about Jack Webb, disappointing. I just replied to one of the posts at the bottom that had religion has no place in discussions. Well clearly it does, 1st Amendment…..Love it when you and White double-team….

Nukeman60

I’ve seen White go in initially as a friendly and when the time was right, just cut their legs out from under them. It’s usually pretty funny and he’s very good.

Looks like the troll army is out in force around the internet, tying their idiot best to make people think this is the result of her being fired, or in a stunning display of delusion, claims that she’s been somehow defeated by the left.

I can’t recall a time when someone “defeated” by the left was the target of so many desperate trolls. One way to get traffic up on any site is to put up a post about Palin. It’s as predictable as the sunrise.

Orangeone

They have to detract somehow from the mileage we’ve obtained from Barky’s unconstitutional power grab (Levin’s lingo) as ruled by the very liberal DC Circuit Court of Appeals! And yes I am still doing the dancing….

white531

There is nothing about a post that has Sarah’s name in it, that doesn’t generate two hundred posts almost immediately. I don’t know what you want to call that. A freak of nature, a freak of Politics, a freak of Conservatism on the right path towards Freedom.

I myself believe the mention of Sarah’s name goes right to our roots, right to what we all believe in fiercely. Because we believe what Sarah believes. She just has a better way of putting it in words.

Lord only knows how many of our Conservative leaders have claimed to represent us. The list is so long, that if I posted it here you would go to sleep before you finished reading it.

Go ahead and find a soft pillow. Sarah’s words are all we need. They always have the same effect. They always make me believe this nation has a future after the Obama nightmare we are living.

sDee

“I myself believe the mention of Sarah’s name goes right to our roots”

Hence why the political class in America and the media homed in on her like a laser. They knew it well. It had to be snuffed. West too.

white531

Pay close attention to those among us who
they attack repeatedly, like Sarah. Like Allen West. Like Mia Love. Like the Rands, both Father and Son. Because these people we are going up against right now, hate Freedom. They hate everything about it.

They want total control of your life. Individual Freedom gets in the way of their goal.

Forgive me, but Republicans are stupid in war. They haven’t the first clue about how to defeat the enemy. And this is war, make no mistake that it is anything else.

The large majority of our population are drinking the magic Kool-aid that the Progressives offer them.

Individual Freedom used to be something that was understood. It was a gift from the Founders. All we had to do, was respect it, protect it, and keep it alive.

A lot of things get lost in the passing of two hundred years. Individual Freedom was sadly one of those things. Because we didn’t respect it, we didn’t protect it, and we didn’t keep it alive.

We now have a massive Federal Government led by a maniac who is laughing in your face, at the very idea of Individual Freedom.

Aren’t you glad now, that everyone paid attention to what The Founders tried to tell us?

They did their best to protect our future. We did our best to ignore everything they said.

GetWhatYouPayFor

Right on target, as usual. The “political class” is the enemy. An enemy fortified with teams of behavioral psychologists. They are adept at herding the uninformed and shaping the news. Very dangerous people and tactics.

poljunkie

I don’t know much about the Govs day-to-day operations and interactions at FOX But I can speculate this… for her to give up at gig that paid a cool million dollars a year for semi foot loose and fancy free sound off…Well, either she has big plans for the future on the horizon, or she really is happy to hang out with her family and enjoy the great state of Alaska …

MissMyGuy

Sarah has never hesitated to give up the money for a different calling. She took pay cut as Mayor, resigned as Oil and Gas Commission when she saw corruption, resigned as Gov when she was driven into bankruptcy. Her and Todd were never wealthy when she did that. It had to be tight.

poljunkie

The old adage that money can’t buy happiness…(well, it sure doesn’t hurt)…
🙂

waytngtym

She stepped out and trusted God, everytime.

c4pfan

The comment from her rep said she wants to focus on other ways to spread her message. Fox News just wasn’t doing that. They would have her on for a few minutes to talk about what they wanted her to talk about.

TravelinThru

Maybe she’ll join DeMint at Heritage Foundation?

Godisright

She may be feeling the call to go into the highways and byways of the left. I don’t watch CNN, but the libs do.

white531

Expand on that Godisright.

Godisright

A commission of Conservative ideals. I think she is a person who feels that she is accomplishing something when the antagonists are listening. If CNN has a captivated audience of left minded followers, I think Palin feels her time is best spent pounding her message and hopefully changing a heart or two. She has a good head on her shoulders and I see her message affecting the heart of people.
Eg: The pro choice crowd are people who’s hearts have been hardened to the miracle of life and the respect for that life. I pray that I may be able to effect a change of the heart everyday in people I meet.
In summary, the liberal agenda is heartless, disrespectful and senseless. Take almost any position they support and the equation is there. Ignore God and things fall apart and become chaotic.

white531

We all have a certain amount of respect for the Conservative leaders among us
who are not afraid to speak out on the issue of us becoming a Communist nation, or at the very least, a Socialist model of Europe.

I am beginning to take an interest in Rand Paul. His interrogation of Queen Hillary showed he was willing to go against the rules, and go after the real truth of Benghazi.

I found it amusing, that most of the major news networks printed the story that this stupid woman made it through the Benghazi interrogations and came out the other side even stronger than she was before. Don’t you just love Obama’s media?

Wouldn’t you like to have something like that on the Conservative side of things?

Actually, that’s probably a bad idea. Because we don’t believe in cheating, lying, making false comments against our adversaries.

Maybe that’s why we are losing this war.

c4pfan

Sarah was an early supporter of Rand when many wouldn’t. Sarah is very good at finding those who should run. I’m not claiming 100%, but she’s very, very good at it to me.

white531

I would agree.

waytngtym

Serious question–why is no one asking Obama questions, or asking Hillary questions, about Obama’s role in Benghazi? Am I missing something? He said himself, “Come after ME.”

white531

Because they are doing what they always do. They are covering it up. Nefarious activities cannot stand the light of day.

waytngtym

I wrote to Rand Paul today–one of the few that lets someone outside their state write to them, I think? I want to know when Congress/Senate are going to question Obama.

Orangeone

Ted Cruz tweeted on support for defense of 2nd Amendment and is accepting people on his site from the nation.

Try again. I have no idea who BobScoop is … I’m a newbie .. thought he was a moderator (or she…).
However, if they’ve been banned & I haven’t, I think the moderators of this forum could shed light on this ….
When all else fails, fall back on paranoia.
I know you have no reason to believe me, but I just came here thru a link from a friend and made a couple of comments about Palin and then talked about why I don’t really care for her.
Many here (not all) don’t seem to be interested in anything but providing unsubstantiated praise for Ms. Palin OR shouting me down as a liberal troll.
Even when I’ve provided personal insight, links & discussion.
Damn fine debate skills, damn fine.

Nukeman60

You haven’t said anything to be banned for. Didn’t you read the comments policy when I offered it to you. I’m brokenhearted. 🙁

Sense_n_Sensibility

Sorry …. I scanned it, but didn’t read it in depth. But I figured if I got banned … c’est la vie ….

Nukeman60

Okay – la vie.

waytngtym

Your ears are plugged. You have been on a tirade since hours ago, saying the same thing over and over. You haven’t heard one other thing about other points of view presented here.

Seriously, do you pray? If you prayed about it you might begin to have open ears, which are needed before having an open mind.

Sense_n_Sensibility

Hey, the first religious reference so far!
You’re not gonna like this, but “freedom of religion” also means “freedom FROM religion” and it really has no place in hashing out governmental matters.

I do have a substantial background in Christian spirituality, but tend not to employ it in political discussion save to influence me in making decisions based on personal morality.
Religion is a very personal thing. The most spiritual people I know, who seem the most “at peace” with their faith are some Presbyterian ministers with multiple doctorates in Religious Studies (one actually has 4 from universities in America & Europe). They don’t constantly proselytize or make judgements, but are always willing to offer support & wisdom when asked. I’ve heard them give some wonderful sermons. However, I’ve never heard them use religion as a tool to put anyone down or prove a political point. You may not admire this kind of behavior, but I do.

As for open ears, I believe most of us have some degree of “blocked ear” syndrome. I am really TRYING to listen, ears open, but all I’ve heard is (mostly) “you are wrong,” “troll,” or allegations disputing my personal assertions (such as political affiliation, education, intelligence, etc.) and credentials.

If YOU have any feelings, opinions or objective date as to why you may prefer Sarah Palin or regarding opinions as to her departure from Fox, I’ll listen.

I’ll even start:

Sarah Palin was NOT fired from Fox, but I believe she may have been “pushed” out. Many of her pieces were cut from air, they were using her less & less and they offered her a contract that obviously she felt compelled to refuse. It may have to do with Fox no longer wanting her on staff but due to contract terms, not being able to “fire” her without substantial recompense. I really have no idea what goes on there or what kind of network they are “evolving” into.
I think it may be a case of when the cheerleaders stop asking you to sit with them during lunch, you know you’re not in the group anymore. By treating Palin that way, Fox seemed to send a message she really wasn’t wanted.

I’ll be interested to see what becomes of her. I don’t like her politically, but she IS entertaining.

waytngtym

Ok then. I’ll leave it out.

I think Palin left voluntarily, simply to do something more creative and effective for the ideals she holds dear. I think all of her life activites to date have been shown to be motivated this way. But that is speculation, and in time we will see what she wants to do next.

I believe in her for many reasons. But I cannot start at this late hour, actually. I am long overdue getting offline tonight. So, I have to stop at my one speculation.

I hope you find the answers you are looking for from others here tonight.

Blessings.

Orangeone

“You’re not gonna like this, but “freedom of religion” also means “freedom FROM religion” and it really has no place in hashing out governmental matters.”

Actually, the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States is Freedom of Religion. And yes the Constitution is the foundation for our country and our gov’t so religion most certainly does play a vital role.

white531

Regardless of your so-called debate skills, you haven’t addressed even one of my comments.

I love it when someone like you finally stumbles on to The Right Scoop, and thinks he has found Paradise.

You haven’t found anything close to Paradise, Sense. What you have found, is your worst nightmare.

Please don’t even think of going to bed early this evening.

Sense_n_Sensibility

Just so you won’t feel left out (ok, stop salivatin’)

G’night!

white531

Sense, I am not so stupid as to believe you are not still reading this dialogue. I wasn’t born yesterday, and neither were you.

You are just a Liberal who came here to have some fun, and found a few people who were actually willing to engage with you on the issues we both face, and now you are sleepy and looking for a soft pillow. How convenient for you.

If you are the best thing the Progressives among us can put forth, then what we are facing, is a slam dunk.

I am not so naive to believe that. Because you are not the best that they can produce.

This is a serious war. It is a war for Freedom.
That’s a funny statement, I know. Because this nation was founded on Freedom.

There is absolutely nothing in the current political climate of America, that is anything close to resembling Freedom.

That is the war we are fighting. It has nothing to do with you. The war we are fighting, is the war of Mexicans just walking across our Southern border faced with no opposition whatsoever. The war of Muslims taking over entire cities in America, like Dearborn, Michigan.

I live in a pretty upscale town home neighborhood in Tucson, Arizona. Because of the cool temperatures this evening, I have my front door open. What would you guess were the sounds coming through my open door?

If you guessed Mexicans rattling Spanish, you would be correct. The Mexicans own this city I live in. Soon, they will own half of America, and you won’t realize it, until the job is complete.

I was born on a farm in Tennessee. Cotton country. Little town called Bells, south of Memphis.

Last time I went back for a visit, I couldn’t find anything that looked familiar. All the stores had Spanish names. All the churches were Catholic and Spanish only. The ice cream shop where my brother and I used to spend our Saturdays before taking in a movie, no longer exists.

It looked like a ghost town.

It looked like Mexico.

Most Americans who have always lived in our big cities have no idea what illegal immigration is doing to this country.

The takeover of Illegals of this country is so massive and so overwhelming, I don’t even want to talk about it anymore. Because no one understands it like those of us who live near the border.

Everyone thinks that illegal immigration only affects the border states.

How can the American people be so stupid? Arizona, and Texas, and California, just provide the gate way, to the entire country.

Do you realize that there are radio stations in Minnesota, that only broadcast in Spanish?

There are Mexican Illegals living in Brooklyn, for God’s sake.

I no longer have any faith in the Federal Government to protect this country.

i’m tired of all of them naming who would be a candidate for 2016 – never mentioning Sarah.

Joengima

Has anyone ever considered perhaps Sarah Palin is thinking about running for political office again? This is around the time I believe Newt and Santorum both withdrew from their Fox News Contract to run for president.

In 2014 the Alaskin Democratic Senator, who won Ted Steven’s seat in 2008, is up for re-election perhaps Sarah Palin is going to run for that seat.

Betsey_Ross

I would be shocked if Sarah ran for either the House or Senate. Sarah hates Washington, DC. Like Fox News the shackles would be not be tolerable for her. The only way she goes to DC is by way of the WH.

Or she could decide that would be the way to serve her country. However she is big on being able to serve without a title.

TaimeAgair

Smart move Sarah. Fox’s loss. Maybe she’ll go to The Blaze.

Lippenheimer

Godspeed, Governor. I still have your RWB moose emblem on my car, and proudly so.

Lippenheimer

I still can’t believe the hatchet-job that the MSM and their affiliates in the Entertainment Industry were allowed to get away with, scot-free. (But who’s to stop them, really?) What a bunch of soul-less, brain-dead A holes. I mean, they even went after little Trig. Can you imagine??? How low can these leftist-millionaire hypocrites go? I guess as low as their boney haunches will take them.

BruceJaquith

I found this discussion through Facebook. I see there is some good commentary regarding Governor Palin and this most recent development, but there are a few very extreme people here who only seem interested in flexing their crazy bone. As a card carrying member of the GOP I hate to see this kind of conservatism gone bad. If I’m not extreme enough for some of you I wonder if you’d prefer to let the dems keep beating the crap out of us. I think we need to support each other and come up with a really good candidate. Mitt Romney wasn’t it. I don’t think Governor Palin is up to it. Who is the best fit?

Lippenheimer

I’m sorry. Could you at least give us a CLUE of what you want to agree with you about? You smell like a troll (and sound like Katie Couric) with your gratuitous Palin not being “up to it” comment. Up to WHAT? What *role* would put Palin in? Hmmm? Speak, dog, lest I slap thee across the face as you so richly deserve.

BruceJaquith

Hey dog, I am not a political strategist. I don’t know what she’s going to do. Only she knows. I really like Bobby Jindal. But I really doubt she would want to go on another ticket as second banana. I have a feeling she will end up trying more media from her statement to Breitbart News where she said she wasn’t done sharing the message of the beauty of freedom and the imperative
of defending our republic.
I don’t listen to Katie Couric and she is just an afternoon talk show hack.

BruceJaquith

I have to say that the person who calls himself White something seems especially angry and unable to stay on topic. From reading his posts it seems ‘white’ is the proper description. I find his racism very offensive. But I’m sure he doesn’t care since I’m not 100% white myself. He sounds very scared of Mexicans. I know lots of different kinds of people. From what I can see it’s not race that is threatening. It is ignorance. Being afraid of a race of people because things aren’t just the same way they always were is pretty ignorant. I don’t think God wants us to discriminate. But maybe some people don’t care what God wants.

Nukeman60

Yeah, a man should not be judged by the color of his skin – unless that color is white, of course.

Methinks your own bigotry is showing through. Try reading a few threads before coming up with your condescending viewpoints. I have not seen racism in White’s comments, but then I’m 100% white, so I’m apparently not qualified to declare racism every time some other race is mentioned, like you are.

You sound like the typical person trolling Palin threads and only enter here when she shows up. It’s no wonder you had to respond to yourself. How’s the conversation up there in the stratosphere? If you hope the race-baiting will affect anyone here, just remember we have heard it for four long years and personally, I’m not affected by you crying wolf anymore.

Tell us, oh great minority hope, what is it that makes Palin unqualified to do what she has already done better than anybody so far? She was supposedly not qualified to be President, but a man who had less qualifications than her was voted in twice on Hope and Change and the color of his skin. Then she went on to promote many successful Tea Party candidates in the next elections. She even draws people like you into any website that puts her name in the title post.

Interesting.

Sense_n_Sensibility

Doesn’t he? I find the best strategy to deal with those who have such lofty aspirations is to ignore them. Let them spew. He (she?) DOES seem threatened by our changing world …. it reminds me of the old SNL sketch “Caveman Lawyer.” I picture them saying “I’m just a simple caveman, your world frightens & confuses me.” Those with the most bluster are the most frightened. His world is changing & he doesn’t like it — heck, no one does (do humans REALLY like change unless it’s change in their favor?) — but there you have it …. change is a fact of life. Maybe even ….. HOPE and change. Sorry, couldn’t resist.

Nukeman60

Wow, just doesn’t sound like good old fashioned discussions here now does it?

BruceJaquith

I don’t know that Caveman thing and I tried to look it up but I have a bad internet connection.

Sense_n_Sensibility

Bruce …. I PM’d you with the “secret handshake” for one of the forums/discussion sites I think you’ll really enjoy. Let me know if you don’t get it.
Cheers!

Is it just me or does Fox seem to be drifting to the left lately? Not overtly but just by what they’re not saying.

jimmie smith

Ms. Palin is a true conservative, her message is more than likely better served even if it’s on CNN, than too be held to one news venue with a narrow margin of exposure. How else can you get the word out? My hope is that she hits all the major networks.

I wouldn’t associate with a network that has Shemp Smith, a crying liberal. Sarah should hold out for more money. I would like to see her be a fill-in for Rush, Levin, or Hannity ocasionally.
I also like Mark Bellin, but can’t stand Mark Steyn, although I agree with him politically.

TimeForAnarchy

Shep is Fox’s token Twinkie.

mediaaccess1

I only watch fox if it is posted here or theblaze. I hope she got wind of their un-conservative-pro-liberal agenda too.

They didn’t fire her, she was offered a Contract and she refused. It was her choice. I agree I watch less and less of Fox. Just think if he goes to CNN a True Conservative reaching many who never hear a word about conservatives.

Frank Luntz left Fox and Went to CBS. Jake Tapper left ABC and went to CNN. Major Garrett left Fox and Went to CBS. Times and people are shifting all over the place. They know that Us Conservatives make or break them.

Also we did make a difference in the Inauguration when we didn’t watch. CNN won the ratings race.

I’ll bet you she joins Glenn Beck and his crew. They always got along well together while she was at FOX, so she may see this as an opportunity to reach a wider audience, especially among liberterians. I hope she does join Glenn Beck. It would certainly drive the liberals insane, which is always a good thing.

MissMyGuy

I dont think you have been paying attention. Beck is disrespectful towards Palin and has mocked her every time she turns her back. She is done with him, without a harsh word. As for him, I cant say the same. I stopped listening to Beck because of his treatment of Sarah.

bobemakk

Sometimes I can’t blame people like Palin. Fox lately is disappointing me. They have broadcasted some old stories that have been going on for months and that is not current news to me.

RUexperienced

The article says Fox offered her a contract- but it does not say anything about the details. Sarah might have simply gotten her feelings hurt because FOX was going to cut her pay.

RUexperienced

I knew it.

FOX was reducing her pay, so she quit.

The new contract offered by Fox, say people familiar with the situation, would have provided only a fraction of the million-dollar-a-year salary. It was then, they say, that Palin turned it down and both sides agreed to call it quits.

Sarah has never hesitated to give up the money for a different calling. She took pay cut as Mayor, resigned as Oil and Gas Commission when she saw corruption, resigned as Gov when she was driven into bankruptcy. Her and Todd were never wealthy when she did that. It had to be tight.

That’s funny.

Palin did not resign because she was driven into bankruptcy. Public disclosure records show that two months before she resigned, Palin took a million dollar advance on her book deal. Plus she was commanding $100,000 per speech. She quit so that she could pursue the money.

MissMyGuy

She wouldnt have had to resign if she weren’t being financially destroyed. 2 months before she resigned she was in dire financial straits. $500,000 in debt with a combined income between her and Todd of less than $200,000 annually. Purposely driving a middle class couple with 5 kids, one disabled, into personal bankruptcy because you don’t like her politics is evil. Case closed. She was wise to make sure that can never happen again.

BruceJaquith

I don’t think she resigned I think they gave her a bad contract and forced her out. They weren’t using her anyway if you read her facebook page. They must have some kind of new strategy at Fox News but I can’t for the life of me figure out how it can represent conservatives.

MissMyGuy

” Public disclosure records show that two months before she resigned, Palin took a million dollar advance on her book deal.”

To cover the debt she was incurring because of political haters and with no end in sight. What was she supposed to do, sell her house? She did what they didnt expect her to do. Gave up her TITLE and moved on. They thought they were destroying her, all they did was release her. Major backfire.

sDee

Have you wondered how long you would stay solvent when George Soros sends a jet full of attorneys to file a volley of lawsuits against you.

Then imagine that you even had the courage and fortitude to beat them all, and Soros then sends in his “mechanics” to set you and your family up on charges you can never beat.

Then imagine you are left with the choice of jail or death, vs resigning and taking a book deal.

Imagine.

Former Alaska Senator Ted Stevens Killed in Plane Crash

Nine people were aboard the plane, a single-engine DeHavilland DHC-3T capable of landing on water. Many of them had deep connections to government and Mr. Stevens’s long service in the Senate.

First of all, I agree that the ethics complaints were bogus. But that is politics.

Secondly, Palin proudly stated in her resignation speech that all of the ethics complaints had been resolved….. they were over.

Lastly, you are aware that the RNC paid over $250,000 of her legal bills, aren’t you?

So Palin gets $1 million dollar advance on a reportedly $7 million book deal. She commands $100,000 per speech. How could she not afford her $250,000 legal bill?

MissMyGuy

oh gee, whats a mear $250k afterall. it was the principle. evil. no one should be financially punished because others disagree politically with them. then what decent middle class citizens would want that job.

ps. just this past month or so, 2 more ethics complaints were dismissed and in one case the judge made the lunatic complaintant pay sarahs legal fees. as it should have been all along

MissMyGuy

the money that the rnc paid was to cover the cost of her vetting and all the research and tax returns etc.. was sarah supposed to pay that? how in the world could sarah and todd( again, a middle class couple) come up with that mo ey. the rnc should have paid it! otherwise, the only people that can rise to the top politically will be the rich and crony connected.

RUexperienced

Not true.

The RNC paid $250,000 directly to Palin’s lawyers in exchange for fundraising for them.

Of the $250,000 that was left Palin could pay out of her $7 million book deal or her $100,000 speech fee. (two and a half speeches and her legal bills are paid)

MissMyGuy

You are missing the point. She never should have paid a PENNY. You dont Pay Off evil. Evil is evil. You fight it.

MissMyGuy

the rnc could not legally pay for her personal lawsuits as governor. read the facts . during the 2008 campaign, way before any ethics complaints, palin received bills from her lawyers for the cost of vetting and background research. all that goes into selecting a vp. that it what she asked the rnc to reimburse since of course a middle class couple making less than 200k per year could never afford.

of course this only matters to you since it is palin. anyone else getting wealthy because of their chosen profession is fine Im sure

kssturgis62

Get the Facts straight. You Palin Haters really have to get a life. At least when it comes to Obama we have fact based reasons to hate his policies. All of you hate a woman who did nothing wrong to anyone, except make sure the Alaska Checkbook was seen online for all Residents, Except get into the Corruption of the Oil Industry and made sure all Alaskans got paid a check every year for allowing them to drill in Alaska, and she decided the Life of her child was more important than killing a baby the Lord gave her.

First off, she didn’t get her Book Deal till AFTER SHE LEFT THE GOVERNOR’S OFFICE.

Secondly She didn’t get any of her Legal Bills paid for Until AFTER SHE LEFT THE GOVERNOR’S OFFICE – So What if she gets 100,000 dollars a speech. TEA PARTY ASSOCIATIONS Get Together pool their money, with Americans For Prosperity or Tea Party Express and that is how she is paid. Also, Anytime she has gone and spoken for anything to do with the MILITARY she has DONATED HER TIME AND GIVEN THE MONEY SHE WOULD HAVE MADE TO CHARITY. SHE HAS DONE MANY SPEECHES FOR LIFE AND DISABLED CHILDREN AND NEVER MADE A DIME.

I think it is a little hard for Liberals to accept that PEOPLE actually give from their heart and like to do things for others. It only makes a Liberal feel good when the Government does it for them – then they can say that is what I pay Taxes for, HMMM SCROOGE !!

The Republican National Committee is paying off SOME of former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s sizable legal fees dating back to the 2008 presidential campaign in exchange for HER HELP raising money for the financially strapped RNC during the campaign season, The Washington Times has learned.

The Times obtained a copy of a check for $128,518.85 that was made out to Anchorage law firm Clapp, Peterson, Van Flein, Tiemessen & Thorsness, which Mrs. Palin hired after a string of ethics charges were lodged against her when she was Alaska’s governor and the GOP’s nominee for vice president.

On Her SPEAKING FEES IT IS 100,000 Dollars Dick Morris Charges 10,000, Judge Napolitano Charges 25,000, – BUT HEY THE RAPIST BILL CLINTON MADE 13.4 MILLION DOLLARS in 2011 and exceeded his previous year by 25%.

YEAH SARAH ALSO WROTE A BOOK, ACTUALLY SHE WROTE TWO BOOKS, she is working on a THIRD ABOUT FITNESS !!! SO WHAT. THE THING YOU CANNOT HANDLE IS SHE HAD THOUSANDS SHOW UP TO GET IT AUTOGRAPHED, and I HAPPEN TO HAVE ONE !!! SHE RECEIVED 1.25 MILLION DOLLARS AS A RETAINER, AND THEN SHE MADE MONEY OFF THE SALES, BUT DOESN’T EVERYONE WHO WRITES A BOOK !!!

SO BEFORE SPOUTING OFF ABOUT SARAH NEXT TIME GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. THE ONLY THING YOU TRULY KNOW ABOUT HER, IS THAT HER DAUGHTER BRISTOL WAS PREGNANT WHEN SHE RAN FOR OFFICE AS VP WITH JOHN MCCAIN AND THAT SHE WAS A WOMAN WHO KEPT HER BABY. READ THIS AND WEEP.

Palin received a $1.25 million advance on her book while still in office. Who said so? Sarah Palin did in the public disclosure statement she filed with the State of Alaska.

Former GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin reported that she has received at least $1.25 million for her hugely anticipated upcoming memoir “Going Rogue.”

A disclosure statement released Tuesday discusses Palin’s finances from Jan. 1 to July 27, when she resigned as Alaska governor. Palin says she received the money from publisher HarperCollins for the book.

Secondly, she was not run out of office because of her legal bills. When Palin quit, she said, “Every one – all 15 of the ethics complaints have been dismissed. We’ve won!”

So her legal troubles were over. She just received $1.25 million. She was getting $100,000 per speech. And thus had the means to pay her legal bills. AND THEN she quit.

BTW I don’t begrudge her for getting rich.

kssturgis62

BY THE WAY YOU OBVIOUSLY DO NOT READ !!! I SAID SHE GOT THE 1.25 MILLION !! I ALSO GAVE YOU THE CBS LINK YOU USED ON ME.

You do begrudge her for being rich, You begrudge everything about her. SHE WAS RUN OUT OF OFFICE and you have NO PROOF OTHERWISE, I GAVE YOU PROOF, but you would rather bash and trash her than actually dig for facts. Are you like this with everything, or if THE MSM says it, it has to be true. She is not a Quitter, and I provided you with the proof, you just chose to hate her. Also I would rather go to the people that KNOW HER BEST, you obviously don’t listen to her, or to the people that speak for her.

I bet you even think Julianne Moore did a great job at Game Change.

rjcylon

If she’s going to get back into politics, she goes straight to the top, or not at all. She could be in the WH right now. Conservatives wanted her. RNC had different plans. Water under the bridge–but if she wants it, she gets another chance in 4 years. She would probably get, I don’t know, maybe 99% of the conservative vote? Something like that?

Most of us got behind Romney eventually and meant it. With Romney it was “well, we need Obama out of there. Romney is much better.” With Palin it’s “Please please run for President, please. Please.”

poljunkie

It’s what Gov Palin does now, or in the near future thats important.

rjcylon

Heck maybe she’s going to get the groundwork going on starting a new party.

Most here started to despise the GOP for how they treated Palin, Gingrich… people we really wanted just to give us someone who was a good man but not really the first choice. But what could you do? You no longer consider yourself a republican but it’s still the party of Lincoln and Reagan, so you vote “just one more time.”

But that was forever ago. Lincoln and Reagan are long gone, but Palin is here now. Reading the breitbart story about “boomtown”. Crony capitalism. She could flip everything upside down.

Rambling post but Palin never does anything “just because”.

Sense_n_Sensibility

Hmmmm, do you REALLY think it’s appropriate to use terms like “libtard?” In my mind, and that of most sensitive, empathetic humans, the use of the suffix “tard” as a pejorative does a real disservice to those with developmental disabilities.
Just something to think about.
Oh, by the way …. nice “reach,” you have no idea how many or what kinds of weapons I may have. I don’t need you to defend me, I do ok.

Nukeman60

‘I don’t need you to defend me, I do ok.’ – SnS

Really? I suspect you have never handled a gun in your life. What is the first rule?

Besides, THAT’s what you choose to “call” me on? I gave you TONS of other ammo in the reply I made to you a little while ago regarding my education & credentials …. keep up, it’s not that tough.

Nukeman60

That’s what I thought. No knowledge whatsoever.

How is asking you a pertinent question about the safety of your children a negative response? I guess you better flag me again, then.

Edit: I suggest you try to keep up. I already responded to your post to me. Try not to look too foolish. It’s Saturday.

Sense_n_Sensibility

Thanks to the Pukeman …. I believe it was you who turned me on to a couple of the other sites where people are interested in discussion (even when they don’t agree), not just slapping each other on the back for putting “liberals” in their place.

Oh — BTW— (edit) I don’t even know why I’m dignifying your obvious intellect baiting with a reply, but any idiot with an internet connection can Google the answer to any question (especially firearms agenda & information) you can ask.

I’d urge anyone who wants to have legitimate discourse on ideology to check out some of the “mainstream media,” as well as some of the “discussion groups” on liberal sites. You’ve gotta know your enemy, if nothing else. Civilized exchange is what has made this country the greatest country in the world and I sincerely hope we start electing people with real experience, knowledge of history and the ability to work things out even when they disagree rather than eye doctors, TV personalities & recipients of nepotism. It only benefits all of us.

Your hate-filled rants aside, I’ve learned a lot from you …. good luck with your “new political party,” (perused it, Constitution, seriously? You may read it, but I doubt you comprehend.

“Time and changes in the condition and constitution of society may require occasional and corresponding modifications.” –Thomas Jefferson to Edward Livingston, 1825. Hope you find some country to test it ….just not this one ….with the resources & influence of the two current predominant parties, I’ll be watching for you … but I won’t hold my breath.

Sarah Palin is still a Republican, unless she’s changed her affiliation in the last few hrs, so even she is aware, thought they may pander to fringe elements, politicians who don’t play ball with one or the other of the “big boys” doesn’t have a chance.
For that, I give her a lot of credit. She’s learned a lot since the GOP thrust her, unprepared, into the national spotlight & then treated her so shabbily.

Sense_n_Sensibility

Forum won’t allow me to “edit,” so I’ll “reply” to my own post …. I just wanted to add that BTW any idiot with an internet connection who can enter “Google” into their browser could answer most ANY of the questions you can pose, particularly “firearms etiquette.” It’s not a real big secret, any of us who’ve ever owned firearms know there is info everywhere.
I DO have a website you might find humorous …. created & orchestrated by an Alaskan & a veteran, I think he should “go on the road” as a social commentary comic. I find him brilliant: http://www.stonekettle.com/2011/06/if-constitution-was-written-today.html

Nukeman60

‘Paranoid much?’ – SnS

Yeah, it sure looks like it. I’d suggest you spend a little quality time here (try to read and learn) and that may just be the ticket for you.

Nukeman60

‘I’d urge anyone who wants to have legitimate discourse on ideology to check out some of the “mainstream media,” as well as some of the “discussion groups” on liberal sites.’ – SnS

You see, that’s one place that you fell short. You just assume we don’t know them, don’t visit them, and just live in an echo chamber. It’s why you fail in many observations. That’s okay. We’re still here to help you.

‘Your hate-filled rants aside…’ – SnS

Hmmm, and yet you call me Pukeman. There’s no hatred in my statements, only pity. Try not to mistake sarcasm with hatred (just because someone has a differing view than you doesn’t make it hate. If you believe so, then I’m not surprised you found a home at MediaMatters. I’m also not surprised in the massive number of flags you left behind. They don’t work if people haven’t violated the comments policy. They just cause the moderators to be overworked and a bit perturbed at you).

You wonder why people on this site insulted you with the liberal label? You were pegged from the first comment. If you had actually wanted to come in here for honest and open discussion, you could have – and would have found plenty of open discourse. We have people of all persuasions posting here. We don’t all walk in lockstep, like those at MediaMatters do. You set the stage, and I’m surprised that you were surprised at the outcome.

‘any idiot with an internet connection who can enter “Google” into their browser could answer most ANY of the questions you can pose, particularly “firearms etiquette.”‘ – SnS

And yet you failed to do so. Wasn’t it in Wikipedia? It was an honest question and whether or not you like it, I got an honest answer (albeit, between the lines and one you didn’t want me to know).

Btw, editing your comments 1 day later after someone has already responded to you, when you think you have an answer and a clever response, is a bit disingenuous, don’t you think?

At any rate, you are not lending any more info to my book on liberals, so I’ve gotten quite bored. See you later. Oh, wait, no I won’t.

I’m still waiting for the titles to your two books. I’d really love to read them. But I suspect, like with everything else you said, it’s just another story. Obama seems to live in that same fantasyland when writing his books (insert flag here, lol).

Sense_n_Sensibility

Hahahahahaha …..

“That’s what I thought. No knowledge whatsoever.”

You just go on thinkin,’ my little pigeon pie, it’s adorable.

Nukeman60

‘Gun “rules?” Check the NRA website or ………anywhere.’ – SnS

(Since you’re adding to your post, I thought I’d respond) That’s the whole point. You don’t have to check the internet (as I’m sure you did to no avail). Every responsible gun owner knows it from day one. You liberals fear guns because you refuse to learn. Doesn’t all that sand get stuck to the earwax?

Nukeman60

‘In my mind, and that of most sensitive, empathetic humans, the use of the suffix “tard” as a pejorative does a real disservice to those with developmental disabilities.’ – SnS

Libtard is short for liberal retard, both legitimate words (a combination of two words, not a word with a suffix).

People with developmental disabilities are not, and should not be, considered ‘retards’, such as you inferred. I find it offensive for you to view them as such and then attempt to reflect that on others. Your bigotry is showing. That’s not nice.

Just something to think about.

jane643

I have been reading, but did not feel compelled to speak to anyone until now. I have created an account just for the purpose to speak on something I think I may know something about. I know this may be considered off topic, but I feel I must say something. As the mother and the sister of persons with developmental disabilities, what you call the “legitimate word,” “tard” IS offensive. It is considered hate speech in most compassionate and informed communities.
Popular usage, as defined in most dictionaries (as in http://www.dictionary.com) defines it as such:

“Slang Dictionary
tard definition
n. a person who behaves as if retarded. (See also retard. Derogatory and potentially cruel.) : You tard! Why did you do that?”

“Libtard” is not recognized as a legitimate word by official sources and those sources that do recognize and sanction it deserve to be called on it. There is a nationwide campaign to educate the public on the offensive nature of “The R Word.” “Tard” is a portion of that word. Personally, I find the use of such words extremely offensive whether you call someone a “f***tard” or any other variation. You may say it’s all legitimate, neat and tidy, but that is an easy out. I am sorry if you are offended but if you can look at my beautiful child and my wonderful brother and feel good about using such words, you have no soul.http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libtard?s=t

Nukeman60

Okay, Bobette, I’ll play. I don’t know why you call your child retarded. I don’t, I didn’t, and I never would. You call ‘tard’ a legitimate word and yet ‘libtard’ is not. Retard has many meanings and you can’t confiscate the word just for your own purposes – those purposes being to call your own child one – shameful. I don’t know how you live with it.

And, btw, I never called anyone tard or libtard, so get over it.

Libtard is not tard, no matter which dictionary you choose to use or how you choose to close your eyes. It is derogatory, but not toward people with developmental disabilities:

You may have a campaign to ban words, but that is an easy out. Eventually you will end up with your own language filled with single letters only. How wonderful communication will be for you then.

Now, back to those books you wrote…

Nukeman60

Btw, I have to add one more thing. Sorry, I forgot to add this before. I said liberal was a legitimate word and I said retard was a legitimate word. I never used the word ‘tard’ nor did I say that was a legitimate word, either.

I also said libtard was a combination of 2 words, not a word and a suffix. If you can find somewhere in your personal online dictionary where it says ‘tard’ is a suffix, please let me know.

So try to argue the proper points, will you? My time is valuable. I’d hate to have you be forced to make a fourth identity. You’re going to get a complex, if you don’t already have one. Have a Blessed day.

TMZ2

Libtard n. Portmanteu of “liberal” and “retard”. A liberal retard–a person who depends on public assistance for support, who is a leech on society, who breeds huge numbers of children he/she cannot support, who almost always votes for Democrats, and who votes for a living instead of working for one.http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=libtard

jrt1031

I would like to see Palin and Gingrich team up. She so much as endorsed him in the primaries with Todd endorsement. They would make a great team

TMZ2

I would be happy with a Palin/Bachmann or Palin/West team up. I would also be OK with Palin/Rubio, but not the other way around because Rubio wants to pass immigration reform. If Palin were on top of the ticket she would close the borders and pass her own plan to reform the immigration system from corruption. Then Rubio wouldn’t have his plans pass. It is his main problem. Take it out and Marco Rubio is pretty good. Better than Paul Ryan. I could also be OK with a West/DeMint ticket or Rand Paul/Allen West ticket.

Sense_n_Sensibility

Haven’t EVER flagged you, won’t do it now. Sorry. Well, not unless you make a threat to hurt someone or yourself.
But gee, I DO want to know …. do you have a LIFE? Or do you just hover around here waiting to make pithy comments?
I’ve got Saturday stuff to do & I’ve wasted enough time baiting you.
Have a wonderful life. It gives me very little satisfaction, but I suspect you don’t. God Bless You.

Nukeman60

You haven’t answered any questions yet. I still want to know what books you’ve written. I’m curious to read into the mind of a liberal elite. Seriously. Don’t you want the income? And, btw, a sabbatical for a liberal is just techno-babble for unemployed. We know that, so be careful what you say around here. You might divulge too much info.

BruceJaquith

SnS are you there? My freaking internet went out again & I couldn’t return your msg. Go to the chat room I have that research for you. thankyoumuch

chatterbox365

Palin is awesome!!! All you haters can go fly a kite. If she is so “stupid” and “useless” as you haters say, why are you even talking about her?? Palin is one of the best things to happen to our party.

I suspect there may have been conditions to her contract that would interfere with her ability to do other work. She needs to be a free agent or move on to bigger and better things. Many conservatives were not (and are still not) happy with Fox News so she needs to distance herself from that network.

TMZ2

Palin’s great. But so is Allen West, Rand Paul, Michele Bachmann, Rick Santorum and Scott Walker to name a few. You should admit Bachmann should have done a lot better in the Iowa last year, but the voters got brainwashed against her. Then Santorum took her momentum and won in all conservative and republican states. But the deck was stacked against him with Mitt Romney being the elites choice and both Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich being hard-headed and not dropping out in time. Palin has her worked cut out if she runs in 2016. It will be the same thing thrown at her as Bachmann and Santorum. Plus I have a feeling Rand, Santorum, West and others may contemplate a run as well. Technically Santorum is next in line. I wish Palin well in whatever she does next. If she ran and won that would be great for the country.

chatterbox365

Are you for real? The deck was stacked against Santorum regardless if Gingrich or Paul dropped out or not.

Sense_n_Sensibility

Bruce Ja…. I PM’d you with the “secret handshake” for one of the forums/discussion sites I think you’ll really enjoy. Let me know if you don’t get it.
Cheers!

BruceJaquith

Thankyou.

Sense_n_Sensibility

Hahahahahahha!!!!!! You be so hilarious, I love you …. let’s get married!

I can’t give you any titles or private information, you silly goose, that’s JUST what I need ….. having you in my “real life.”

Of course you know, Wiki isn’t ALWAYS right and I guess I’m just stubborn like that, but I can’t make myself play your game. Guns, guns, guns ….. I’m responsible with mine, are you? Ok … here’s where you rant about your prowess……
I can’t WAIT to hear how you cut me to ribbons …. I’m shaking in my liberal, “unemployed,” heavily mortgaged, patent leather boots!

One little confession … I HAVEN’T been entirely honest with you. I AM on sabbatical with a lovely grant from one of the drug companies (what can I say, they like to promote “social agenda” by giving stipends to us “literary” types), and I do teach, currently on the U level, but I have taught (History, Public Policy, Sociology … ok … you’d say “Socialism,” and various other subjects across the grade spectrum. If you have kids and if you’ve ever sent them to ANY kind of traditional educational institutions, I COULD be/may have been/might be their teacher! That’s kind of a scary thought.

As for “insert flag here,” just WHERE were you pointing? Again: …..Hahahahahahhaa! Have you ever considered a career in comedy? You do make me laugh.

Nukeman60

‘I can’t give you any titles…’ – SnS

Just as I thought.

‘I HAVEN’T been entirely honest with you.’ – SnS

I know.

‘I COULD be/may have been/might be their teacher!’ – SnS

Not possible. They would have set you straight by now.

‘As for “insert flag here,” just WHERE were you pointing?’ – SnS

Is this like where you admitted you couldn’t find the edit button?

Sense_n_Sensibility

Ahhhhh, cut to the quick, I am. Don’t you love me anymore?

I am having SO much fun …. I really do wish I could give you personal information so we could have this kind of meaningful dialogue when I feel down & need to build myself up!

However, though I don’t agree with (duh!!!!) many of the ideologies & opinions espoused on this here den of rattlers, I know we are violating the terms & conditions of service by engaging in person-to-person communique in the public forum. I’m pretty sure they want us to discuss the topic at the top of the page, and we’re not doing that. I have respect for the moderators and the forum, no matter HOW perverse the participants’ various offerings.

I GOTTA get off now …. “60 Minutes” is showing an interview with our President and our outgoing Secretary of State! I like the President, but I LOVE me some Hilllllz!

Bye, Sugar!

Nukeman60

‘I know we are violating the terms & conditions of service by engaging in person-to-person communique in the public forum.’ – SnS

Ahhh, that’s why you flag every person responding to you – it’s a lack of knowledge of the comments policies. Okay. But, know this. If you can’t prove something in a blog, don’t say it in the first place, because that is no more than pretending you are something you aren’t. It’s as simple as that. You can call yourself the Queen of Sheba, but it doesn’t make it true, no matter how outraged you may appear when someone calls you on it.

It appears, however, that you violate what you think are the rules whenever you feel the need, but hide under the false umbrella when you need to backtrack. I had already figured that.

This site, unlike MediaMatters and it’s ilk, is a family of sorts, with dialogue back and forth from all it’s members. The conversation is civil and only gets nasty if someone comes in like you did with the agenda you had. If you had read more and spewed less, you may have understood that.

I’m happy that you are getting something out of this. We find the more time a liberal spends here, the more the ice melts around them and they come closer to the truth. I feel we are close with you. Please keep coming back. There is hope.

Sense_n_Sensibility

Love, love LOVE you, Pukey! I might ask, however, if you’re gonna QUOTE me (how flattering) you don’t use the time honored conservative tradition of picking & choosing just to make your point and use the WHOLE quote. It’s only fair. IF you know “fair.” Rewriting history is something anyone CAN do, but it’s really not according to Hoyle and frankly, it’s beneath you.

Sorry, again, to break the rules of the forum, if this response is doing that. Just felt a little clarification might be called for, because, as an author, plagiarism and using people’s writing out of context is a real problem. Again, flattering, but it is a no-no!

Don’t worry, my time spent here, in your family space, has only galvanized my belief I’m on the RIGHT path … and I don’t mean the far right!!!!! C’mon ….. give it to me … that was funny stuff!!!!!

I heard someone say the other day, “I’m off like a prom dress.” I could stay & chat, but I see by your thousands & thousands of posts, that you find it your duty to shout down any opposing ideas and spend SO much time here with your “family.”

I like it here. Hilarious. Nope … no hope, sorry (not really). Still ICY as heck!
If I could fist bump you right now it would make me so happy …. but I fear what you need is a warm hug from a liberal because we DO give the best hugs. Just sending one through the interwebs isn’t very satisfying for you, I’m sure, but just know, my sweetness, I’m sending one. Go to YouTube & find a nice version of the Beatles’ “All You Need Is Love,” play it & think of me …. true brotherhood & the purest platonic love from me to you, SugarPie!

BTW — The Barack/Hillary interview was FAB-U-LUSSSSSS!!!!! Maybe you can catch it online if you didn’t get to see it. Makes me proud to be an American.

Well, you used a lot of words, but didn’t say anything. I’ll pass that off to the fact you just listened to Obama and Hillary. It happens.

So – ‘I know we are violating the terms & conditions of service by engaging in person-to-person communique in the public forum.’ – this isn’t what you said and it was taken out of context? Enlighten me as to what more context you needed.

Sense_n_Sensibility

It’s all personal with you, isn’t it? You DO adore me! Awesome. But, this isn’t a dating site. Can’t you say anything about your “new political party” or the great Jefferson quote? Even Sarah Palin?

Hey, guess what? I DID flag you (yesterday?) on your post to that woman with the special needs child defending your use of a certain word. So, as I said before, guess I found it “threatening” and flagged it. BTW ….how do you know when you’re flagged, do they send you a message or something? I haven’t gotten any. Have you flagged me?

Hey, you’ll appreciate this: on one of the other pages to which you pointed me, a commenter said he went on Governor Palin’s Facebook page & asked her “how am I failing as a parent considering my 17-year old daughter hasn’t yet gone out & gotten pregnant?” (yeah, just a little tacky), but I did find it pretty funny when he said, “they wasted no time, minutes, in trampling on MY first amendment rights & removing my comment from the page.”

You may speak RINOs, but I see HIPPOcrites, not dead people.

Nukeman60

I am merely responding to your comments, which are all personal. Tough to talk about other topics.

As I said before, I knew you flagged me. You made the mistake twice now in claiming that I used a ‘certain word’ (libtard, btw). I never used that word against anyone. I did nothing more than inform and clarify, as you attempted to do as “jane”. I found it interesting that, as ‘jane’, you said nothing to the person who actually used that word, but felt it important enough to attack me. So be it.

Btw, as to the word hatred. Hmmm. I challenge you to show me one comment I made to you, just one, that is filled with hatred. I don’t feel hatred toward you, I feel pity. My comments are a combination of humor and sarcasm, and they might be biting to you as they hit close to home, but there is never an ounce of hatred in it. That is the liberal mistake. They hate with all their hearts and then declare that those who oppose them are filled with hatred. Interesting.

Now, I don’t blame you. It’s not your fault. You have been surrounded by it all your life, while you were growing up as a child, when you went to College, and even now in your adulthood. But it’s not too late. You CAN walk away from it, although it will be hard. You took the first step coming here. Even though your initial purpose was to bash Palin and Conservatives in general, you stayed and by staying it shows that you have a desire inside of you to learn. That’s a good thing. Reach for that, embrace it. You CAN walk away from the dark.

I find it interesting, also, that it is bugging the heck out of you that we know you are flagging. I’ll keep that technique secret, as it appears you’re desperate to know.

As to banning on any website – That is the preference of the website owner, not a 1st amendment violation. You would know that if you had read the comments policy on that “Stonekettle” website you gave me. He agrees with me on that issue.

(there, I responded without the appropriate quotes. Does that make you feel a little more secure?)

Sense_n_Sensibility

“Humor” ………….really? You think you’re THAT funny? I’m not sure you understood, when I said you were funny, I was mocking you. Just want to say that, in the spirit of “disclosure.”

I’m just a little bored with your Palin-style word salad type of discourse, don’cha know. I DO find it interesting you MUST respond to everything I, a known troll with 7 or 8 alter egos here (did I get the number right?), allegedly posts. Personally, I think YOU may be Jane and White and maybe even OrangeOne …. you DO love to stir it up! As for Stonekettle, he’s really talented. If YOU have a similar website where you display your “humor & sarcasm,” I’d love to check it out … or are you still “on the road in previews?” Don’t worry, someday you’ll get your chance on “Broadway!” Well…..maybe not.

Guess I’ll have to (again) be the better person & leave it as it lies, since I know you’ll rush to respond to my “liberal drivel.” Can’t seem to let go of the “last word,” can ya? My yoga teachin’ mama always says: “they can’t argue if you don’t. Namaste” She may be right, but I’m sure you’ll try! Don’t sprain your fingers on the keyboard!

I still love you —- but I’m afraid our “romance” has come to an end. I love you like I love the sand that gets into my sandals on the beaches of Malibu (isn’t that where you placed me?) and irritates my adorable manicured tootsies. If there wasn’t “YOU” in the world, victories like BHO’s wouldn’t feel NEARLY as sweet. It’s schadenfreude, really, it may be wrong, but it’s oh so human! One of those little joys of life.

Cheers …. my honey has decanted an excellent pinot & it’s time for a glass & a great old Hitchcock film.

Nukeman60

You still haven’t answered the question.

Nukeman60

‘…you find it your duty to shout down any opposing ideas and spend SO much time here with your “family.”‘ – SnS

Btw, just like you exposed yourself when you didn’t know anything about the flagging process (oh, how embarrassing), you apparently don’t know anything about how replies on this site work. Methinks you were ‘out to sea’ way too long. Anyway, just to help you out, replies to me go to my e-mail and I can receive my e-mail anywhere in the world. A proficient world traveler like yourself should have known that. It appears your little ‘story’ to me is breaking down piece by piece, as all liberal lies eventually do. Take Obama, for example. Ahh, but I digress.

Now, back to getting me those book titles so that I can further your bank account and expand my reading expertise…oh, that’s right. You can’t do that.

And, one more thing. When I quote you, I’m taking the pertinent part of a statement that is right in front of the reader. It isn’t misleading, it only points out to you the part I’m referring to. But, then, you knew that. You simply don’t like being called out on what you say. That’s okay. We will have that turned around the more you stay here.

I feel it now, as your calling out for hugs. I knew you needed them.

Sense_n_Sensibility

Ahhhh, therein lies the crux of the problem regarding forum usage. I guess I jumped the gun & deleted my email notifications from this forum. I actually have to HUNT on the webpage for posts & replies, cumbersome ….. guess I could go into my account & reactivate notifications ….but …. nah.

Nukeman60

I’m so glad to be helpful. But don’t tell your liberal friends you learned something from a Conservative. It would ruin your relationship with them. 🙂