EDIT: I don't like the way they've portrayed St. Monica; she does not look or seem to act as humble and meek as she is known to be. Also, I concede on my previous point; St. Monica is actually the greatest saint ever.

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EDIT: I don't like the way they've portrayed St. Monica; she does not look or seem to act as humble and meek as she is known to be. Also, I concede on my previous point; St. Monica is actually the greatest saint ever.

Where do you get this idea that St. Monica is portrayed in such a way? She has one line in the trailer and the only other time we see her is when she's embracing her son at the end.

This certainly looks worthwhile.

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I look forward to seeing it, even though I am a bit ashamed to say that I know little about St. Augustine.

Start reading more. He is an incredible saint and my appreciation and respect for him increased even more by reading his biography and his works. Don't believe the hype about the negative light the Orthodox Church sheds on him.

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I look forward to seeing it, even though I am a bit ashamed to say that I know little about St. Augustine.

Start reading more. He is an incredible saint and my appreciation and respect for him increased even more by reading his biography and his works. Don't believe the hype about the negative light the Orthodox Church sheds on him.

I'm not advocating ignoring his works; by all means read him. However, the Orthodox Church has condemned some of his theology and, therefore, one has to be careful. I think it's telling when the Reformers love reading and quoting him. I think if you're an Eastern Orthodox Christian, you need to seriouly consider how and why the Church arrived at it's conclusions.

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Augustinianism didn't become much of an issue until the Franks, but to solely focus on that rather than say his Confessions is disingenuous to say the least. The latter is one of the greatest Christian writings ever made and it's influence has hardly diminished.

But seriously I've never understood why the Orthodox Church has been so unfairly harsh towards St. Augustine. St. Jerome did alot more damage than him, yet he hardly gets a bad rap.

However then again the Orthodox Church would rather glorify saints like Nichols II and Justinian so...

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“There is your brother, naked, crying, and you stand there confused over the choice of an attractive floor covering.”

I look forward to seeing it, even though I am a bit ashamed to say that I know little about St. Augustine.

Start reading more. He is an incredible saint and my appreciation and respect for him increased even more by reading his biography and his works. Don't believe the hype about the negative light the Orthodox Church sheds on him.

I don't think it's possible for me to read anymore than I already do. But I thank you for the recommendation and think I'd better get a copy of Confessions. It's been on my to-read list for too long.

Third- Blessed Augustin isn't accepted as a Saint throughout all of Eastern Orthodoxy. Some say 'yes', some say 'no.'

They can choose to not accept his Sainthood all they want but the fact that an Ecumenical Council clearly stated that he is Saint would like to have a word with them. Plus, why do we blame Augustine for everything? He corrected many of the errors he made in his 'Retractions' and most of the heretical 'Augustinian' notions came not directly from St. Augustine but from Anselm's interpretation of the works of St. Augustine.

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As a recovering alcoholic I identify with Augustine very much, whether he is a saint or not. I'm almost happy that he's not recognized as a saint by the OC. It makes him that much more special to me and even easier to identify with.

As a recovering alcoholic I identify with Augustine very much, whether he is a saint or not. I'm almost happy that he's not recognized as a saint by the OC. It makes him that much more special to me and even easier to identify with.

I also admire his mother. Isn't she the patron saint of alcoholics?

Well he was considered a Father of the Church at the 5th Ecumenical Council, but the system of canonization wasn't done until later. However the Fathers in that decree are saints so if the shoe fits.

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I'm afraid I agree with you. I'll probably still watch it, but it doesn't look very well done to me. Why does every religious movie portray Africans as European? Bizarre.

The Romans inhabiting North Africa were generally of European descent.

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But it had not been in Tess's power - nor is it in anybody's power - to feel the whole truth of golden opinions while it is possible to profit by them. She - and how many more - might have ironically said to God with Saint Augustine, "Thou hast counselled a better course than thou hast permitted."

Blessed Augustin isn't accepted as a Saint throughout all of Eastern Orthodoxy. Some say 'yes', some say 'no.'

To everyone who matters, it's a "yes." Can you find a "no" from before the 20th century?

Also, "Blessed" and "Saint" are synonymous. The used of the title "Blessed" to mean "not-quite-a-saint" is a Roman Catholic practice (DUN DUN DUN!).

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But it had not been in Tess's power - nor is it in anybody's power - to feel the whole truth of golden opinions while it is possible to profit by them. She - and how many more - might have ironically said to God with Saint Augustine, "Thou hast counselled a better course than thou hast permitted."