DAVEMcC, and I are on different sides of the fence on this issue. I have never understood the need to refurbish a gun after the first shot. For me, beauty isnt in a refurbished gun but instead is in a gun that has history. Honest working guns with dents and dings have always help a special place in my heart. This world is full of shiny new guns with no caractor. Once referbished all history this gun has aquired is forever erased.