IDS and Priti Patel have been loud this morning, not heard much from the others... bluster on Friday, from all sides, it all went quite quiet yesterday, lots of pundits reporting who had said what, Nicola Sturgeon was very loud but that is about it!

Oh, forgot, all the resignations, they have been quite loud, and the calls for resignations... and the let's leave it tl November, it can then be an SEP... lots of ex cabinet ministers talking, some sounding quite reasonable...

He saw Brexit as his chance to oust Cameron, go for the Tory leadership and then sweep into No. 10. The problem is, he banked on Remain having narrowly won the referendum, so that he would not need an exit plan.

It backfired. He was looking so shocked and scared at his "victory" speech because this was not how it was meant to pan out. There is no exit strategy.

This isn't a surprise, if they had an actual plan they would have detailed it before the vote rather than just putting out negative claims (true or otherwise) about the EU and things that people thought might be linked to the EU.

Dominic Cummings, the Leave Campaign manager discussed possible No vote campaign strategies on his blog last year. He argues for not having an exit strategy, and using the cushion of second referendum.

3) Does NO need to have a unified plan for exit? A Government trying to leave the EU obviously needs an exit plan. The SNP needed an exit plan. But the NO campaign is neither a political party nor a government. It has no locus to negotiate a new deal. Does it need an exit plan, or does that simply provide an undefendable target and open an unwinnable debate for a non-government entity?

A. Creating an exit plan that makes sense and which all reasonable people could unite around seems an almost insuperable task. Eurosceptic groups have been divided for years about many of the basic policy and political questions. An interesting attempt at such a plan is FLEXCIT based on using the EEA as a transition phase – remaining in the Single Market and retaining a (modified) version of free movement – while a better deal, inevitably taking years, is negotiated. This is an attempt to take the Single Market out of the referendum debate. I will discuss the merits of this idea another time when I’ve studied it more.

B. Even if one succeeded, the sheer complexity of leaving would involve endless questions of detail that cannot be answered in such a plan even were it to be 20,000 pages long, and the longer it is the more errors are likely. On top of the extremely complex policy issues is a feedback loop – constructing such a plan depends partly on inherently uncertain assumptions about what is politically sellable in a referendum, making it even harder to rally support behind a plan. Further, in market research I have done it is clear that 15 years after the euro debate the general public know nothing more about the EU institutions than they did then. Less than 1% have heard of the EEA. Few MPs know the difference between the EEA and EFTA or the intricacies of the WTO rules. The idea that the public could be effectively educated about such things in the time we have seems unlikely."

Ah, no I wasn't really following the threads before the vote so probably wouldn't recognise, but it's interesting as when Gove was Education Secretary and Cummings was his advisor we had the occasional Cummingsesque poster stridently posting on the Education threads in favour of Gove and all his works. Clearly infiltrating MN is one of his tactics. We should probably keep an eye on where he moves next.

You could not make it up! How the hell do we have such calculating but incompetent self centred politicians? Playing with our country and 65million lives for what? This is making me more and more angry - who the hell do they think they are?