thanks! any experience with the ax lightness rims that are the other contender? i agree that enve rims are great, but i'm wondering if the ax rims are equally great for a rider my weight--as well as being lighter.

One of the tune hubs seems to ustilize the exact same system as dt BUT it actually looks like some precision machining has been performed. Whereas the dts looks like they cast the internals or maybe fabricated them with a hacksaw or something.

I'm currently using the Hyperrear for my 29er. This was initially built for my WW hardtail but I loved it so much, I'm using it for my Full Sus All Mountain now. Took it apart for cleaning once. Very minor amount of dirt and water. No idea how does it compare to the Hypercamber but I am looking to buy a new hub pretty soon.

The engagement mechanisms are the same for both, so I think it says it all in the link above... "healthier and stiffer wheel build comapred to the already optimized HyperRear because of the 10% gain in spoke angle on the drive side."
But since you're not that heavy, I am not sure if you would feel the difference in stiffness especially on a rear wheel and with a carbon rim.

i decided to go with tune cannonball SL and prince hubs. i am confident both extralite and tune would be fine, so it came down to availability and price for me.

i also decided to go with enve rims instead of AX-Lightness. i have heard good things about the AX rims (though mixed comments about warranty support), but in the end i was saving 25g per rim. i KNOW that enve will give good support if there ever is an issue.

further, the enve rims are available in a 28h configuration, which given their stiffness and my weight seems to be a fine option. there is a small weight savings there (~16g/wheel), so that offsets the slightly heavier rim.

i'm hopeful i made the right call, but truthfully i think any permutation of extralite / tune hub and ax / enve rim would likely be just fine.

i plan to use this for a light hardtail build, but i also may run it in a FS on occasion (i'm buying the 12x142 conversion kit, too).

thanks. i know the tune hubs come with QR135 as standard and one can replace with a 12x142 (or 12x135) axle, but my question is really whether i can use standard tune (or extralite) rear QR 135 hub with some type of 10mm thru-bolt or thru-axle.

would i be able to do this with the same hub axle and drop outs?

if i convert to, say, 12x135, the width is correct but does that mean that standard dropouts would no longer work?

I would choose dt hubs and enve rims. tune + ax, means lighter setup but more issues. with this in mind it's up to you if you want maximum lightness, or a lot of lightness + durability and no issues.

i would go for the second choice: enve+dt240's.

thanks for answering. i made a decision already: to go with the enve rims and tune hubs.

i felt the enve rims would be a better bet for me, particularly with my location in the US with respect to proximity to enve. also, i could build them up in a 28h configuration and save most of the weight difference between the enve and ax lightness rims.

i decided to go with tune hubs because i was not able to find anything bad about the new generations of hubs. i agree that DT hubs are bomber. i opted to save ~100g on the wheelset by doing so. it may seem insignificant, but i thought it was a good opportunity to lose weight on a light build i am doing; if the tune hubs were rated poorly, i would not have gone that route.

i'll be able to follow up after a season of riding on them, but i'm afraid i won't know much before then.

thanks for answering. i made a decision already: to go with the enve rims and tune hubs.

i felt the enve rims would be a better bet for me, particularly with my location in the US with respect to proximity to enve. also, i could build them up in a 28h configuration and save most of the weight difference between the enve and ax lightness rims.

i decided to go with tune hubs because i was not able to find anything bad about the new generations of hubs. i agree that DT hubs are bomber. i opted to save ~100g on the wheelset by doing so. it may seem insignificant, but i thought it was a good opportunity to lose weight on a light build i am doing; if the tune hubs were rated poorly, i would not have gone that route.

i'll be able to follow up after a season of riding on them, but i'm afraid i won't know much before then.

Hi,

I'm currently having almost the exact same conundrum as you have had with this thread. Do you have any updates about the ENVE / Tune combo? I'm thinking about buying an uber light race day wheelset (AX Rims w/ Extralite Hubs) and a carbon all mountain wheelset (ENVE AM Rims w/ Tune Hubs) for my Tallboy LTc. What have your experiences been with the tubular rims and the ENVE / Tune combo?

The ENVE DT 240 has been flawless. Beat the shh out of them and still nothing to say. Neglect them even. On the other hand, the Reynolds carbon wheelset with Reynolds branded hubs, the rims went out of true prematurely.