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Comments Are Welcome, Bigots and Trolls Are Not

DarthCorleone

After discussion yesterday with some other Whovians, I have good reason to believe that the sourcing on that story is completely dubious. So don't go assuming this is the real Nine and it's all about the Time War yet.

koko temur

I cant belive how sexy joannas voice is. I develop a girl crush on her every week anew.

F'mal DeHyde

She just sounds young. There's nothing terribly distinctive or sexy about her voice that I can hear. I don't notice her 'ugly accent' either since I'm from the same part of the country and I guess I probably sound the same.

k op

It's difficult to hear if you are in the middle of it. The young American ugly accent started in California and spread. The "r" aren't just rhotic, they are HARD rhotic with almost every word ending in -aaair or eeeer through the nose. Think of the flat, hideous, voices of the Kardashians. That's spreading every where and sounds just as ugly on girls in NYC or Savannah who push all their syllables into their noses.

When I'm overseas, it's particularly obvious and foreigners have a lot of fun mocking young US girls these days.

JoannaRobinson

How lovely of you to have this conversation as if you're not talking about an actual person.

k op

How would you prefer it?

Mrs. Julien

I don't know about Joanna, but I'd prefer it if you kept your comments to your damn self, you supercilious ass.

Deidra

There's no ugly accent, just many many "UMMMMMMM"s and "like"s.

k op

Really? She has a terrible flat accent that strangles vowels. All I hear is "eerrrrrurrrrorrrerrrr". Granted, that's how young American girls talk these days, but it's one of the ugliest accents I've ever heard anywhere.

koko temur

Well, i wasnt speaking about her accent, whatever that is you speaking about. Her tone tickles my ear in a pleasant way.

Also, fuck off.

Garferty

I agree entirely, Joanna. Externalising the Doctor's Time War actions goes directly against who the character has been since 2005. It undoes everything he's learned, and come to terms with.

Of course it's never been entirely consistent: we learned in The End Of Time that the Time Lords, particularly Rassilon, ultimately forced his hand. But he's always been responsible, and he's always been guilty.

On the plus side, we still don't know for sure that that's what John Hurt is playing, or that his character is derived purely from the absence of Christopher Eccleston. We know Eccleston was originally meant to be involved; we *don't* know that John Hurt only came on board because he said no. There may have been three Doctors, plus Hurt.

"Moffat does not have a good record for doing something great with things". Too right!

DarthCorleone

I don't think it would make much sense to have Eccleston playing the role that Hurt presumably would play for the very reason of Joanna's potential complaint. We've already seen Eccleston deal with what we did. If Hurt is Time War Doctor, I would hope that this is a self that does things we have not yet seen or heard about (hence the "secret"). Having Smith and Tennant bitter at Eccleston just wouldn't jibe well with what we've seen.

I am going to be irked, though, if Hurt turns out simply to be older McGann.

vic

I think it will be older McGann. Eccleston was supposed to be freshly regenerated. Unless the Time Lords are such that renouncing your name or something changes your body. That could be...interesting.

Joe Grunenwald

SPOILERS FOR DOCTOR WHO:

Are we sure that John Hurt is playing The Doctor who fought in the Time War? Eleven says that this part of himself is his "secret". If it's a secret that The Doctor destroyed Gallifrey in the Time War, he's not done a very good job keeping it. Could he be a pre-William Hartnell version of The Doctor? Forgive me if this has been discussed elsewhere - Dustin mentioned the spoilery John Hurt interview, which I've not read.

Also, my biggest burning mystery from this half-season of WHO is this: When Clara calls The Doctor in "The Bells of St. John," he asks where she got the number, and Clara says 'the girl in the shop gave it to me.' So who's the girl in the shop?

DarthCorleone

Sounds like their certainty springs from official spoilers. Sort of wish I didn't know this, but that's my own fault. Ergh. Yeah, I don't like that choice.