there a rumours sliding in some forums (warseer included, from Harry) that GW will soon mold their heroes and HQ in resine instead of metal, making metal totally desapearing from GW.2 facts could re-inforce this rumour :1/ there's no possibility for the retail and the associated sellers of GW product to command metal references since a month and a half ago (in France anyway).2/ the big boss of GW, Mr West (not Herbert, nor James ) forbid all his staff to go on vacation on May, because he has an "important annoncement to do"What do you think guys ??imho this is true ! (and a shame, even if i like resine too)Aubec

"We are no longer going to run this company purely for profit, and start trying to really build our community and create a balanced game"

LOL! Good luck with that one Brother!!! This maight be true.........FW is really uping their production these days and troops are being produced through them as well, not just HQs/characters.......Not sure why no one would be allowed to take a vacation during this time though .....riot control?

_________________+++"There is nothing in the arcane and blasphemous arsenal of the forces of Chaos that can compare to faith. With the power of faith, our weapons become shining instruments of deliverance that can cleave the mightiest daemon in twain. With the power of faith, our minds appear as slivers of pure agony to the daemon, driving into the wretched forms of those who would dare stand before us. With the power of faith, our words become commands that cause the daemon to cower and cringe in terror. I could meet my enemies unarmed without a shred of fear in my chest, for I know that the Emperor watches over me and guides my hand. So let them come. We shall show them what the power of faith can do."+++ (Brother Captain Stern)

Its just sad the fact its cheaper doesn't get passed back to us!GWS Products here in Australia are seriously overpriced already, and they aren't cutting us any slack, its a total joke. I think a squad of 5 PAGK are $55, while GKT are $74.I can get them delivered to my door for half that from the UK!

I dunno if they will make the move to resin or not... I guess we'll have to see. There is a whole of speculation out there, as there always is...

I like resin in general, so if they do go for it, cool. The only problems I have with resin is the small/thin stuff... swords, antenna, etc... they always seem to break off.

Zealadin wrote:"We are no longer going to run this company purely for profit, and start trying to really build our community and create a balanced game"

If we lived in a perfect world where money didn't matter, I'd be sure to agree with that one. Unfortunately, they have to make money in order for them to keep making the game. <sigh>

Zealadin wrote:Its just sad the fact its cheaper doesn't get passed back to us!GWS Products here in Australia are seriously overpriced already, and they aren't cutting us any slack, its a total joke. I think a squad of 5 PAGK are $55, while GKT are $74.I can get them delivered to my door for half that from the UK!

I can't say I know the conversion rates, or how the rest of the economy is working down there... but one thing I have noticed, being right across the border from Canada in the US, is there is still a lot of Canadians coming over to buy stuff because prices there didn't adjust with the drop of the US dollar. Before the economic crash, it was around $1.50 Canadian to $1 US... right now, the dollars are, for the most part on par. I work in an electronics store and have people coming in all the time complaining that the same thing in the US is a lot more expensive in Canada. One person was buying a $350 vaccum cleaner that was nearly $700 in Canada (plus 16% tax in Canada vs. 9% here). It just seems to me that the different countries aren't making the adjustment... which may be the case with Australia and other nations as well... at least with companies that are based outside of the nation they are selling in.

Yep thats pretty much happened here.The pound was worth about 3 AUD a few years ago, and now its barely worth 1.5-1.6 and the price of models etc has probably doubled across the entire GWS range in the last 10 years. (Well it feels like it anyway).

A friend and I did a combined order a while back that was about 800 AUD, and I think the actual store value over here was somewhere in the region of 1550 AUD.

Then the GWS store people say its the taxes and stuff.... total bollux if you ask me since the US gets it almost on par with British prices!

I can vouch for the Canadian difference. For a box of GK's here it's $39.50 compared to $33 in the US and our dollar has been on par for quite awhile now. I don't mind paying the bucks for my hobbies but what pisses me off is if the Canadian dollar took a dump right now there would be an immediate price increase to compensate for this. And I mean immediate. Nothing ever changes when it involves prices that should be coming down. Even if plastics are cheaper to make, don't ever expect GW to pass on the savings. It just ain't happening.

_________________+++"There is nothing in the arcane and blasphemous arsenal of the forces of Chaos that can compare to faith. With the power of faith, our weapons become shining instruments of deliverance that can cleave the mightiest daemon in twain. With the power of faith, our minds appear as slivers of pure agony to the daemon, driving into the wretched forms of those who would dare stand before us. With the power of faith, our words become commands that cause the daemon to cower and cringe in terror. I could meet my enemies unarmed without a shred of fear in my chest, for I know that the Emperor watches over me and guides my hand. So let them come. We shall show them what the power of faith can do."+++ (Brother Captain Stern)

Yep... They are going to explain us that minies are better and sharper than they were and so on... blablabla....In fact GW is just deleting a step of production... They are going to sell us green stuff 28mm 3ups.................... They are overall more expensive!

I won't be buying any more stuff from GW anytime soon. This is indeed something very serious. I too live overseas (south america) and buying online gets us a good discount, even when shipping costs are very high and it takes months for the package to arrive. But I have an alternative.However I feel personally agravated when GW tries to tell me where and how I can buy their stuff. I honestly have the money to buy their products, but telling me I cannot choose to buy at a discounted price, wherever the H*** I want to spend my money, is something I cannot tolerate from anyone. This isn't a monopoly, and certainly isn't the only game out there. Perhaps they don't understand one very important thing: Their company lives from our money. They miss behave and we'll have to stop buying their products, we (the customers) are in control, they aren't.

everything of this stuff is making me sick and about to vomit ... i love metal, and always did it's not a secret ...and i'm a geek too, so i can accept lots of things from GW (price rising every 6 months, total lack of attentions and respect with the veterans of the hobby...), but here ... there's no respect at all !! in changing the old metal models in resin models, more expensive and without tell anybody... it' so unrespectful !! i'll still collecting GW minis (cause i'm a collector) but i don't know if i'll buy something new from GW again ... Aubec

Metal seemed to make a solid character model for an acceptable price, but in comes a cheaper way to produce, less expensive material and faster turn around in production but for a bit more. All financial gain but of little use to us... I call it in relation to economy and 40k points, the "Castellian Crowe" effect.

I really don't like how GW is handling things. I just started the hobby and if that wasn't expensive already. Now I have to shell out more money to pay for something thats cheaper for them to produce! I'm with brother Aubec on this one I love the old metal models. GW could have at least sold the resin models for the same price as the old metals and could still make a profit. I am not going to be buying any new products from GW anytime soon thats for sure.

I agree, I snipe on Ebay for the cheapest price possible. I lost a bid on Mephiston due to forgetting that I was in the running. I would have got him for $11.50 with free shipping compared to $19.99 + tax, both still in the shelf packaging. Almost every person who wants to play 40k hits the first obstacle and that's expensive models. Some people take years to finish their army. GW should focus on a kids perspective(no income but lots of enthusiasm). The only time they can buy a GW model is on their Bday, Christmas/ gift giving holiday or save up from allowance. If young players start out they carry it on to when their older and introduce, pass on or if not play with their kids.

I split my purchases between a local store and Wayland games (I save literally 50%) to try and be fair on the local shop and to myself (not made of money).If I can't get my models from Wayland games I'll be complaining to GWS Australia, I'll be contacting the authorities here to see what their perspective is about this kind of uncompetitive action by GWS (and whether GWS is breaking any laws), and I'll probably have a look at Privateer Press to decide whether I'll finish what I have now but eventually move onto their products.

GWS seem to be utterly useless at any kind of marketing and it shows constantly via their pricing and how they do releases.Do they not realise that if the hobby was actually affordable (here in Aus we pay double the UK/US price after conversion to AUD) they could actually attract new players!?!?!

I have looked at their yearly releases for the last few years and Australia/NZ has always been a market with increasing profits, and we are the countries most being bent over and screwed by GWS, day after day after day.

I'm with you on this Brother Zeal, prices down there are really unbeliavable. I too am affected by that ridiculous ban on foreign sales. I had one order from wayland coming and that's my last until GW lower the prices or goes bankrupt.

wow ... it seems a revolution is going on here ... that i understand very well ! but ebay is always an alternative ... you can find some good deal (and in metal) ... but i agree with a brother (can't remember who) when he says that we will see a big increase of prices of metal models on ebay very soon !! so check before that increaseAubec

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It looks like GWS stand is "let them eat cake" ............ Last words by Marie Antoinette. I'm with Aubec's Revolution,It's Time to sharpen the old guillotine,And I say off with there heads Oh and prices have already began to creep up,Lord Kaidor Draigo is 35.00 U.S. and higher on Ebay and other sites. Friggin price whores