""Love is a dangerous thing. It will crush you if you trust it. But without it you can never be whole. Love crucifies, but love saves. We will either be saved together with love, or damned alone without it." Selam, +GMK+

""Love is a dangerous thing. It will crush you if you trust it. But without it you can never be whole. Love crucifies, but love saves. We will either be saved together with love, or damned alone without it." Selam, +GMK+

It appears to be Black men on the left (except maybe the middle one?) and White men on the right...

If I'm wrong please forgive me. I was wrong once before!

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Yes, you have misconstrued my intentions. I initially intended to put T.D. Jakes on the right, but I thought that would be a bit too "straw man." John McArthur and R.C. Sproul are considered to be theological intellectuals by their followers. And yes, of course, St. Athanasius was African but not "Black."

And, BTW, I have been wrong twice before, so don't feel bad.

Selam

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""Love is a dangerous thing. It will crush you if you trust it. But without it you can never be whole. Love crucifies, but love saves. We will either be saved together with love, or damned alone without it." Selam, +GMK+

Yes, you have misconstrued my intentions. I initially intended to put T.D. Jakes on the right, but I thought that would be a bit too "straw man." John McArthur and R.C. Sproul are considered to be theological intellectuals by their followers. And yes, of course, St. Athanasius was African but not "Black."

And, BTW, I have been wrong twice before, so don't feel bad.

Selam

Right on...

Thanks man. You've been a kind voice I needed right now.

So St. Athanasius wasn't a Black man? I honestly thought he was - was he Arab then or Berber or?

Yes, you have misconstrued my intentions. I initially intended to put T.D. Jakes on the right, but I thought that would be a bit too "straw man." John McArthur and R.C. Sproul are considered to be theological intellectuals by their followers. And yes, of course, St. Athanasius was African but not "Black."

And, BTW, I have been wrong twice before, so don't feel bad.

Selam

Right on...

Thanks man. You've been a kind voice I needed right now.

So St. Athanasius wasn't a Black man? I honestly thought he was - was he Arab then or Berber or?

FWIW, Wikipedia states that Athanasius was an Egyptian born Greek.

Selam

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""Love is a dangerous thing. It will crush you if you trust it. But without it you can never be whole. Love crucifies, but love saves. We will either be saved together with love, or damned alone without it." Selam, +GMK+

Yes, you have misconstrued my intentions. I initially intended to put T.D. Jakes on the right, but I thought that would be a bit too "straw man." John McArthur and R.C. Sproul are considered to be theological intellectuals by their followers. And yes, of course, St. Athanasius was African but not "Black."

And, BTW, I have been wrong twice before, so don't feel bad.

Selam

Right on...

Thanks man. You've been a kind voice I needed right now.

So St. Athanasius wasn't a Black man? I honestly thought he was - was he Arab then or Berber or?

↑ ↑ Although I'm sure that was not the intention, that could possibly be construed as racism. ↑ ↑

†IC XC††NI KA†

Another Nice One.....

There a Whole story onThe Holy Father St.Sava and the Church on My desktop Computer ill post it later I'm on My Laptop at the moment ...The Church was Build supposedly On the same Spot Were the Albanian Pasha burned the Body Of St.Sava......

Nationalism in Construction: The Memorial Church of St. Sava on Vračar Hill in Belgrade

Bojan Aleksov

p. 47-72

Résumé | Plan | Texte | Notes | Citation | Auteur

Résumé

The role of St. Sava, whom the late Serbian Patriarch German praised as the “Sun of Serbian heaven” in Serbian oral tradition during medieval and Ottoman period was to al-ways watch over Serbian people. In the age of nationalism however, the Serbian cult of St. Sava acquired different tasks representing and reproducing, depending on circumstances, powerful images of national golden age, national reconciliation and unification and/or martyrdom for the Church and the nation. For more than a century now, a church dedicated to this saint is being built in Belgrade, aimed to epitomize and monumentalize these images. After years of oblivion the Serbian Church in mid-1990s drew attention back to the St. Sava Church and began holding services on the plateau in front of the construction site or recently even inside the unfinished church. In the atmosphere of the complete breakdown of the Serbian society, where basic economic and political security could not be provided, not to mention spiritual or cultural revival, “Serbian National Cathedral” was again hailed as a celebration of “victory over the enemy” and the segment of its role as the act of societal repentance for the communist era was lost. In the year 2000, after the overthrow of Milošević and almost a ten-years break, the work has begun again. More than a century after its construction was initiated, the Church on Vračar Hill is still awaiting completion and to assume the monumental and memorial role it was assigned.continues here......http://balkanologie.revues.org/index494.html#tocto1n1

Yes, you have misconstrued my intentions. I initially intended to put T.D. Jakes on the right, but I thought that would be a bit too "straw man." John McArthur and R.C. Sproul are considered to be theological intellectuals by their followers. And yes, of course, St. Athanasius was African but not "Black."

And, BTW, I have been wrong twice before, so don't feel bad.

Selam

Right on...

Thanks man. You've been a kind voice I needed right now.

So St. Athanasius wasn't a Black man? I honestly thought he was - was he Arab then or Berber or?

FWIW, Wikipedia states that Athanasius was an Egyptian born Greek.

Selam

Then Wikipedia is wrong: he was a Greek speaking Egyptian, i.e. Copt.

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Question a friend, perhaps he did not do it; but if he did anything so that he may do it no more.A hasty quarrel kindles fire,and urgent strife sheds blood.If you blow on a spark, it will glow;if you spit on it, it will be put out; and both come out of your mouth

Conquer evil men by your gentle kindness, and make zealous men wonder at your goodness. Put the lover of legality to shame by your compassion. With the afflicted be afflicted in mind. Love all men, but keep distant from all men.—St. Isaac of Syria

According to legend in the place of the lake there had been the Switez city, a very beautiful one. Once invaders came to Navahrudak land. Old and young men went to fight and in the city only helpless wives and daughters left. When the invaders found themselves in front of the gate to the city and the Stitez women were already ready to die in the flames, but not to surrender to the enemies, a miracle occurred. The earth parted and swallowed up the town. In its place an extremely beautiful lake spilled.

According to legend in the place of the lake there had been the Switez city, a very beautiful one. Once invaders came to Navahrudak land. Old and young men went to fight and in the city only helpless wives and daughters left. When the invaders found themselves in front of the gate to the city and the Stitez women were already ready to die in the flames, but not to surrender to the enemies, a miracle occurred. The earth parted and swallowed up the town. In its place an extremely beautiful lake spilled.

Thanks Michal for the explanation. Were the invaders Mongols? Did the city, like Kitezh, continue to exist, albeit invisibly? I am fascinated by these legends...