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Safeties coach Jackson retained by Shanahan

Longtime safeties coach Steve Jackson has been retained on new Coach Mike Shanahan's first staff.

"Yes, I'm back," Jackson said in a phone interview. "He [Shanahan] told me this morning, just about an hour ago. He really didn't go into too much detail about" Jackson's role on the reconfigured staff.

"There were other people that he had to speak with and give some information to. We just talked briefly and he said, 'Welcome aboard.' I told him whatever he needed me to do, in whatever capacity, I'm here and ready."

Offensive assistant Chris Meidt, the Redskins' de facto quarterbacks coach the last two seasons, and Scott Wachenheim, who just completed his first season as tight ends coach, were not retained, two people with knowledge of the makeup of Shanahan's completed staff said.

Of former coach Jim Zorn's assistant coaches, only Jackson, special teams coordinator Danny Smith and linebackers coach Kirk Olivadotti were retained. Shanahan still plans to announce the hiring of other coaches.

Whenever there is a new coaching staff and a general concensus that a major roster overhaul is needed, inevitably there are players moved that individual fans hate to see go...feeling that the new staff never had a sense of what the player's strenghts/upside were. This is probably a silly notion as the new staff has all the film and incentive to find them...but it's January and we're out of it. Who fits this bill for you?

Well as much as I am scratching my head about this. I am more confused by the Bills hire of Chan Gailey... over Russ Grimm or Jim Fassel or hell Mike Tice, there are probably what 20 guys more qualified to be a head coach just hanging out there right now

I hope not, especially if the Skins use the 3-4 with more regularity. Wilson started to look much better at LB towards the end of the year. He could be an effective contributor as a rush LB in 3-4 and situational DE in 4-3. Also Wilson was very solid on teams this year as well. I'm sure K.O and Smith will chat him up to Shanahan and Haslett.

Well as much as I am scratching my head about this. I am more confused by the Bills hire of Chan Gailey... over Russ Grimm or Jim Fassel or hell Mike Tice, there are probably what 20 guys more qualified to be a head coach just hanging out there right now

Gailey has never considered an egotists.. Pretty much a "company man" reputation.. ..
Maybe the Bills think, if Chan is struggling in 2010.. He would concede to Cowher coming in, in 2011.? Sorta hiring Cowher's staff, first.. Just a wild thought.. because I agree with your point... Why? When there are so many more qualified out there?
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Well as much as I am scratching my head about this. I am more confused by the Bills hire of Chan Gailey... over Russ Grimm or Jim Fassel or hell Mike Tice, there are probably what 20 guys more qualified to be a head coach just hanging out there right now

Posted by: alex35332 | January 19, 2010 11:41 AM

Well as much as I am scratching my head about this. I am more confused by the Bills hire of Chan Gailey... over Russ Grimm or Jim Fassel or hell Mike Tice, there are probably what 20 guys more qualified to be a head coach just hanging out there right now

I think they way this has gone down is another sign that things are different at Redskins Park. if this were 5 years ago, Snyder would have hired a new head coach and fired everyone else. Here Shanny picks and chooses who to keep and the rest are gone according this his wants and needs. a much better way of doing business...

i kno this is off subject but if the redskins past on sam bradford im going toooooooo lose my mind this kid will be great trust me. i also think he can start right away

Posted by: Felz2o2 | January 19, 2010 11:47 AM |

take your crazy talk elsewhere. we don't need some gimp shouldered, weak-armed Big 12 quarterback when we need linemen. we shouldn't draft a QB for 3 years. build the wall around a QB, then fill the position.

SKINSneedaGM;JC didn't kill anything that Zorn hadn't already done by being in over his head as a head coach, you'll see a huge difference in Campbell as soon as they get him "NFL" type pass protection. Jim Zorn had no business being a head coach period he,along with Synderatto damn near got Jason killed, what JC accomplished (stat wise) is a minor miracle so i don't want to read anymore BS about JC this or JC that I'll tell all of you this the kid will win if Shannahan and Bruce Allen have a clue.

take your crazy talk elsewhere. we don't need some gimp shouldered, weak-armed Big 12 quarterback when we need linemen. we shouldn't draft a QB for 3 years. build the wall around a QB, then fill the position.

Posted by: DreamOutLoud | January 19, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

I will not accept another QB who played most his ball below the snow line!

DC football ain't supposed to be pretty, I want my QB to be almost as bad@$$ as the olinemen.

take your crazy talk elsewhere. we don't need some gimp shouldered, weak-armed Big 12 quarterback when we need linemen. we shouldn't draft a QB for 3 years. build the wall around a QB, then fill the position.

Posted by: DreamOutLoud | January 19, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

I will not accept another QB who played most his ball below the snow line!

DC football ain't supposed to be pretty, I want my QB to be almost as bad@$$ as the olinemen.

take your crazy talk elsewhere. we don't need some gimp shouldered, weak-armed Big 12 quarterback when we need linemen. we shouldn't draft a QB for 3 years. build the wall around a QB, then fill the position.

Posted by: DreamOutLoud | January 19, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

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You bring in linemen AND A QB, and they all learn to work the offense together in 2010. You don't sit on your hands until 2011 to add the QB, thereby delaying progress/chemistry for yet another year.

Say goodbye to your buddy Campbell; he isn't going to be here in 2010.

I would have been sorry to see K.O. go. His first few years, he was equivalent to an intern. He will continue to do well, IMO. But how the heck does Danny Smith stay on? This guy should have been replaced years ago.

Great news on Jackson. Maybe w/a competent DC, our safeties will be put in their correct positions.

Sorry to see Chris Meidt leave though. He made playcalling understandable to JC when Sherm started calling the plays and JC seemed to relate well to him. Wonder if that says anything about JC's status.

Oh well, I have already thrown my support for MS experience and expertise on all football related decisions.

I don't get peoples objection to Danny Smith. I mean I stopped blaming him once I realized that Jim Zorn was forcing his personnel down his throat, and the time that Danny Smith started yelling at Zorn.

I don't get peoples objection to Danny Smith. I mean I stopped blaming him once I realized that Jim Zorn was forcing his personnel down his throat, and the time that Danny Smith started yelling at Zorn.

When have we had good special teams under his watch, though? We haven't had good kickers, punters, returns, coverage, nothing. And we drafted a punter. That's a big phase of the game, and we just don't get anything out of it. This goes back to the Gibbs days, so I think it's time to try someone else out.

I don't get the great reputation of Danny Smith and his retention. Our special teams have been abysmal for 5 years and any coach trotting ARE out there continuously on punt returns out to be summarily executed, not retained.

I don't get peoples objection to Danny Smith. I mean I stopped blaming him once I realized that Jim Zorn was forcing his personnel down his throat, and the time that Danny Smith started yelling at Zorn.

When have we had good special teams under his watch, though? We haven't had good kickers, punters, returns, coverage, nothing. And we drafted a punter. That's a big phase of the game, and we just don't get anything out of it. This goes back to the Gibbs days, so I think it's time to try someone else out.

Posted by: mattsoundworld

I'm neutral on Danny Smith. Not sure how much he is responsible for in terms of personnel. If it was his call to keep ARE returning punts, then I have no idea why he is still around. But I'm not convinced that Zorn gave Smith a lot of choices.

When have we had good special teams under his watch, though? We haven't had good kickers, punters, returns, coverage, nothing. And we drafted a punter. That's a big phase of the game, and we just don't get anything out of it. This goes back to the Gibbs days, so I think it's time to try someone else out.

Posted by: mattsoundworld

Look I am not going to disagree that we don't get much out of Special Teams and I agree to that it is as important as O and D. But I get the feeling that Smith was given jack s*** to work with, do we even know if he suggested them selecting a punter in the draft? I mean I would never do it myself, but I have to wonder if he made the recommendation.

I mean its not a game ender to me to keep Danny Smith on, or if we had replaced him. I just wonder how much say he had.

* Depending on what Brett Favre does (we might not know until August, mind you), the Vikings might need a QB, given the Tarvaris Jackson-Sage Rosenfels tandem as an alternative.
* The Bills could use a veteran passer while they draft and develop their next franchise gunslinger. Same goes for the Rams (who might actually want Donovan's teammate).
* Jason Campbell might be back in D.C., but if not, it's a similar situation to Buffalo: The Redskins need a veteran as a stopgap while they develop the future franchise QB.
* The Browns have two unstable QBs, and their new GM was in Philly for most of McNabb's career.
* The Jaguars and Panthers both have some pieces in place but could use an upgrade at QB.

Have we seen the last game for Donovan McNabb in Philly? Howard Eskin of WIP in Philadelphia has reported that during the 2009 season, younger members of the Eagles' roster would go to Kevin Kolb for guidance instead of McNabb. This could be a sign that there is an internal sense that McNabb's time is running out with the franchise.

As we know, one possible trade partner is the Browns because czar Holmgren and GM Tom Heckert (until recently the Eagles GM) both prefer a West Coast Offense scheme. As Tony Grossi of the Cleveland Plain Dealer has noted, both McNabb and Kolb have contracts that expire after 2010, and Kolb is the cheaper option for the Eagles, which could mean McNabb will be the one who's traded.

No matter what, the McNabb speculation has been captivating given that he's provided identity to the Eagles' offense for so many seasons. While most trades are carried out with draft picks involved, speculation on McNabb could last beyond the draft according to NFL Insider Adam Schefter. On "Sunday NFL Countdown", Schefter said that McNabb has a roster bonus of $6.2 million that takes effect on May 5 (i.e. 05/05, which is apparently a coincidence), which means the Eagles could wait to shop him until after other teams have sorted out their situation a bit more in the draft.

Adam Schefter

McNabb trade rumors won't die until May 5

"Nobody can say where it is that McNabb will land, or even if the Eagles will trade him, but the timing of his roster bonus means that the issue will be debated from now through the draft."

Landry made some comments that sounded a little Portis-esque at points this season, which made me believe Landry was walking all over his coach. Maybe this isn't on Jackson, but it didn't seem like he did much to correct Landry's deficiencies. I never really understood the relationship between Gray and Jackson. I think most teams have one secondary coach and they don't split the safeties and corners. Maybe Gray had the final say on players back there, and Jackson just had to go along with it. Don't know, but I wonder what they saw in Jackson that made them want to keep him.

First question: What's Jackson going to do that he hasn't already done to bring out the best in Laron Landry?

Posted by: League-Source | January 19, 2010 11:17 AM
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Hopefully with the new regime in place, he'll cut his a$$ and tell him that since he wants to hit something so badly, start with the pavement.

Off topic but its the offseason anyway, everyone should see Avatar. I just saw it yesterday. Granted the story won't surprise you, but the visuals will blow your mind. It's revolutionary. See it in imax or you'll regret it when it's gone.

Landry made some comments that sounded a little Portis-esque at points this season, which made me believe Landry was walking all over his coach. Maybe this isn't on Jackson, but it didn't seem like he did much to correct Landry's deficiencies. I never really understood the relationship between Gray and Jackson. I think most teams have one secondary coach and they don't split the safeties and corners. Maybe Gray had the final say on players back there, and Jackson just had to go along with it. Don't know, but I wonder what they saw in Jackson that made them want to keep him.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2010 12:37 PM |

What gives you the idea that either Jacson or Gray have any real say on who plays and how? Head coaches and coordinators choose the system, how it's run and who plays. All those other coaches do is teach the players how to run the system and plays that the HC and coords call. Stop thinking that cushions and such are position coaches fault.

"Well as much as I am scratching my head about this. I am more confused by the Bills hire of Chan Gailey... over Russ Grimm or Jim Fassel or hell Mike Tice ..."

Thought I saw an item yesterday that Grimm wouldn't schedule an interview . There's too many unknowns about what happens when Ralph Wilson is gone - where will the team play, who's going to be in charge - that makes it an unappealing prospect.

Landry made some comments that sounded a little Portis-esque at points this season, which made me believe Landry was walking all over his coach. Maybe this isn't on Jackson, but it didn't seem like he did much to correct Landry's deficiencies. I never really understood the relationship between Gray and Jackson. I think most teams have one secondary coach and they don't split the safeties and corners. Maybe Gray had the final say on players back there, and Jackson just had to go along with it. Don't know, but I wonder what they saw in Jackson that made them want to keep him.

Posted by: RedSkinHead

As much as Campbell regressed, Landry was the one who went backwards the most. So how do you retain the coach who can't get thru to the player?

Laron never should have been positioned at Free Safety. His natural talent is at strong safety, where he was drafted to play. I'm sure Steve Jackson will want to move him back. He should be one of the best strong safeties in the league next year. While we can never replace Sean, we do need to find a real free safety. Maybe Carlos can hold on to a few more INTs if he get's a better look at the balls as free safety...

Campbell, whom the team has tried to replace this offseason, has publicly taken the high road throughout Washington's pursuit of other players to potentially take his job, saying he is focused on leading the Redskins in the upcoming season. The presence of another young, starting-caliber quarterback such as Sanchez on Washington's roster, however, would spur Campbell's representative, Joel Segal, to contact the team in an effort to find a better situation for the four-year veteran, league sources said.

What gives you the idea that either Jacson or Gray have any real say on who plays and how? Head coaches and coordinators choose the system, how it's run and who plays. All those other coaches do is teach the players how to run the system and plays that the HC and coords call. Stop thinking that cushions and such are position coaches fault.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 19, 2010 12:47 PM
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I agree with scheme being the culprit for some of the secondary's deficiencies, but I recall a heck of a lot of bad angles, poor tackling, free-lancing and bites on double fakes. I don't think that had anything to do with scheme. Neither Jackson or Gray spent enough time working on the fundamentals with their players. I recall distinctly that Gray said they don't spend a lot of time on the fundamentals during the regular season. Again, I don't know if that was Gray's call or Jackson's call, but it was a bad call.

As much as Campbell regressed, Landry was the one who went backwards the most. So how do you retain the coach who can't get thru to the player?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 19, 2010 12:54 PM
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I don't understand it. Must be something to it that we don't know about. That's why I questioned whether Gray was calling most of the shots...

As much as Campbell regressed, Landry was the one who went backwards the most. So how do you retain the coach who can't get thru to the player?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 19, 2010 12:54 PM
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I don't understand it. Must be something to it that we don't know about. That's why I questioned whether Gray was calling most of the shots...

Posted by: RedSkinHead

Look at the group and ask, who got better in '09?

Landry
Rogers
Hall
Horton
-- those are your 4 starters and its a 'NO' for all those guys. In fact, all 4 regressed.

Now look at the other guys
Smoot
Moore
Westbrook
Doughty
Tryon

Some guys did improve in there (Doughty and Tryon), but overall, not much.

So why retain any of the coaches when most of the players are regressing?

granted the women from these areas can be beautiful.. (been there). But, they also reminded me of my cat... If I was dying on the floor, my cat would most likely just step over me and start looking for the next person that can open her cat food.
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Globally speaking I would just like to point at Russia and Norway and Iceland.

Jason's QB Ratings by Quarter from NFL.COM.
Also, consider how weak the 2009 schedule was the first 6 weeks.
(first two Quarters speak volumes as they are not including "mop up" stat padding when the opposing team is in prevent D.
(btw, according to NFL.Com Jason has never, in his career, had a come from behind victory in the 4th Qtr??)

of note, there were lots of chances for 4th quarter comebacks in '09. Campbell attempted 1 more pass in '09 than in '08. Though some may argue the point, I think its pretty clear the Skins played an easier schedule in '09.

First question: What's Jackson going to do that he hasn't already done to bring out the best in Laron Landry?

Posted by: League-Source | January 19, 2010 11:17 AM
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Hopefully with the new regime in place, he'll cut his a$$ and tell him that since he wants to hit something so badly, start with the pavement.

I don't get peoples objection to Danny Smith. I mean I stopped blaming him once I realized that Jim Zorn was forcing his personnel down his throat, and the time that Danny Smith started yelling at Zorn.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 19, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Concur, endorse, cosign. The most egregious special teams play in the NFL.. perhaps ever... the famous Swinging Gategate, was ALL on JZ. Smith bailed out Zorn on several occasions, saving him from attempted clock mismanagement. Perhaps Zorn's most moronic quote...and i admit that is a tough contest to judge what with so many stellar candidates... "I wanted Randle El out there".

Detractors: There are still question marks on his effectiveness. He could conceivably rise above... could...

Praisers: The man has shot himself and this team in the foot on MANY occasions. He could remain mediocre at best.

These are the facts. Lump 'em.
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Yes, but are these things true during the last 7 minutes of a game in a blinding hailstorm with the defense playing a two deep cover, the tight end in motion, and Zorn busy drawing up the next swinging gate play?

strange regression..
JC's 1st Qtr QB Rating for the last 4 years??
To give JC the benefit of the doubt.. wonder if it is more reflective of the playcalling? Or, has the League just figured him out. Thus, this year the high percentage of attempts/ completions 10 yards of less (78%).

Thought I would try to change the subject from the typical JC bashing/defending chatter and ask about any of the few UFA coming into this year. If the Cards don't use the fran. tag on Danby's this year, which is expected because third year of doing that would cost them $12 mil, do the skins try to pick him up? He plays in a hybrid 3-4, 4-3 defense. Does he come in with Rocky, London, wilson, orakpo and save a draft pick for O-line, CB, and maybe a DT? Just thinking

and if/when we draft a qb, i wouldn't mind taking McCoy in the 3rd round. One of the most important thing for a QB in WCO is accuracy. Colt had over a 70% comp. percentage last year. Take this year with JC at the helm, rebuild the Oline starting with Okung as pick, give the kid a year to learn the off., then put him in 2011 and let him get his feet wet

Campbell appeared out of sorts with Zorn's West Coast attack in a 16-7 loss to the Giants, but he went 24-for-36 with no interceptions against the Saints. He completed his last eight passes as the Redskins (1-1) overcame a nine-point deficit with two touchdowns in the final 6½ minutes.

and if/when we draft a qb, i wouldn't mind taking McCoy in the 3rd round. One of the most important thing for a QB in WCO is accuracy. Colt had over a 70% comp. percentage last year. Take this year with JC at the helm, rebuild the Oline starting with Okung as pick, give the kid a year to learn the off., then put him in 2011 and let him get his feet wet

Posted by: PanteraCFH | January 19, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Great Point. Too bad we are no longer going to be running a West Coast offense.

Here is something for the stat geeks to ponder. These are the career stats of a HOF QB. JC has a higher rating, and yet he'll never be a HOF QB even as some of his most ardent supporters have stated. He's good enough et al.

I really need to invest more time and money in adding in sarkmarks to my comments, too bad they are PC only. As most people seem to take that southern QB thing really seriously. Let me explain to those of you who cant figure it out.

cant find the contradiction ref the saints game.. I do recall, though, the Saints had one day of practice and two thirds of their secondary were on IR.
Still a good game for JC.
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(btw, according to NFL.Com Jason has never, in his career, had a come from behind victory in the 4th Qtr??)

Team sport. Howmany times did he engineer a score in 4th Q, only to have other team drive for winning score.

It's not enough to just compare some of JC's QB ratings side by side for 2008, 2009 or for any year. In order to make a point using those numbers, you would further have to break them down to also talk about whether the skins were behind, ahead, tied, etc. To say because he slipped in the fourth quarter in QB rating over a year, depending on the situation and play calling, his rating could be affected dramatically... Not saying it is, but also just pointing out they also could be.

Part of my thinking on use of #4 pick. Look back at the last two years... samuels was hurt in game #5 this season, Game #12 last year. I remember a lot of stats last year showing how the O went all to he11 when CS got hurt, same thing this season. And assuming that CS retires, the LT selection becomes crucial to O. If we can get someone who might be in Cs's league, I think we have to commit our #4 pick as the best chance we will have to replace him.

Question... Who would be considered the best QB in football playing on an average or less NFL team?
Eli?
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It's not enough to just compare some of JC's QB ratings side by side for 2008, 2009 or for any year. In order to make a point using those numbers, you would further have to break them down to also talk about whether the skins were behind, ahead, tied, etc. To say because he slipped in the fourth quarter in QB rating over a year, depending on the situation and play calling, his rating could be affected dramatically... Not saying it is, but also just pointing out they also could be.

Part of my thinking on use of #4 pick. Look back at the last two years... samuels was hurt in game #5 this season, Game #12 last year. I remember a lot of stats last year showing how the O went all to he11 when CS got hurt, same thing this season. And assuming that CS retires, the LT selection becomes crucial to O. If we can get someone who might be in Cs's league, I think we have to commit our #4 pick as the best chance we will have to replace him.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 19, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Consider the 9-7 record that equals out to with CS and the 3-13 with out him.

soups inability to consistently read a D and throw the ball on time have greatly contributed to DC winning 35% of the 51 games he has stared. Since the QB's under contract are Colt and TC, perhaps the QB discussion should focus on which one of them will start until someone else is signed....

Shout out to zcezcest1 for submitting the Campbell post that broke the blog's back.

When I'm not being tickled by his rating in the fourth quarter with seven minutes or less remaining and how it compares to other QBs, I'm always an ol' bama ass sucker for his "35%" career winning percentage....

But that sh*t doesn't get me going anywhere near as an old "Todd Ball" debate.

No doubt that JC will benefit from the new coaching staff, their scheme and play calling.

What makes it hard for me to get behind JC are plays like the pump and go to Moss that he checked down and threw behind ARE; throwing away a 4th down pass; throwing a hail mary out of bounds; throwing a lateral to a wide open receiver into the stands.

These types of plays are hard to explain away IMO and make it hard to believe that JC w/the new coaching staff will be better.

Having said that, I will fall back on my new mantra, In Shanny I Trust!

No doubt that JC will benefit from the new coaching staff, their scheme and play calling.

What makes it hard for me to get behind JC are plays like the pump and go to Moss that he checked down and threw behind ARE; throwing away a 4th down pass; throwing a hail mary out of bounds; throwing a lateral to a wide open receiver into the stands.

These types of plays are hard to explain away IMO and make it hard to believe that JC w/the new coaching staff will be better.

Having said that, I will fall back on my new mantra, In Shanny I Trust!

Posted by: Skins930 | January 19, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Perfectly said and what I've been saying since Shanny got hired. IMO if JC wasn't a first round pick by Saint Joe he would have gone the way of Patrick Ramsey (a first round pick by idiot Steve) two years ago. The frequency of bonehead plays and just terrible decision making by JC is alarming, especially considering 50+ starts under his belt at this point. But like I've said, in Shanny I trust and I'm on board with whatever he decides.

If you look at QB ratings, Jason Campbell is 15th in the league. Of the 14 guys with higher ratings, four played for teams that didn't make the playoffs: Rothlisberger, Schaub, Eli Manning, and Orton. Jason's team was 4-12. The worst record of the other four teams was 8-8, Giants and Broncos.

If you look at teams with worse QB ratings, only two made the playoffs -- Cincinnati (Carson Palmer was right behind JC) and NY Jets (Sanchez was 28th).

I conclude that it wasn't JC's fault that we didn't make the playoffs. I put it on coaching -- I'm sticking with "Skins would have gone 10-6 with this roster and Shanahan as coach last year."

Are you saying that Vinny was right and that he put together a playoff roster?

Posted by: Skins930 | January 19, 2010 2:52 PM

That isn't what Vinny said. He made a stronger claim -- that he put together a Super Bowl roster. I think it was a playoff roster, and I don't think Vinny was right. But it definitely wasn't a playoff caliber coaching staff.

Campbell, or no Campbell? I don't care anymore. Shanahan will do what it takes to win and he has already said he cannot win without an offensive line and running game, so he'll start the reconstruction there. Campbell can win in a run first offense. More than half of the QB's in the league can win with a run first offense, so this is not an endorsement of Campbell, but rather an endorsement of Shanahan's system. Now, who will be the offensive line coach???

alex..thanks for the data.. I would agree campbell and garrard stand out as "best on the worst". JAX does have better OLine talent than Skins.
When GMs consider how poor Campbell's OLine was/is, he may surprise everyone by getting a better RFA offer than Orton even though they have been ranked the other way around on most RFA analysis boards.
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So here are where all the QB's rank by QBR vs where their teams rank by W/L. Note I used the top 32 guys on the NFL's site which ends up being 1 starter per team.

The worst QB on the best teams would be arguably, Carson Palmer, Matt Ryan or Mark Sanchez.

On the question of who the best QB on a Average team was the answer would be Big Ben the no 5 QB in the league and a 8-8 team.

The Best QB on the worst team would be a tight race between Jason Campbell or David Garrard.

That isn't what Vinny said. He made a stronger claim -- that he put together a Super Bowl roster. I think it was a playoff roster, and I don't think Vinny was right. But it definitely wasn't a playoff caliber coaching staff.

Posted by: League-Source | January 19, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

It may have been a playoff roster if everyone stayed healthy, but when your start 6 different right guards, cycle through 5 tackles, 4 running backs, and have Jason Campbell as your QB you aren't a playoff caliber roster no matter who the coaches are. Healthy it was a maybe 9 win roster, but even with the injuries it should have been a 7 win team.