I want to add a spinaker to my wave that currently has a jib with Jib kit hardware. Do I need any extra hardware for the spinaker?

Rick

Uh....yeah

Jack

How does your set up perform? Did you modify a hooter from Rick White or come up with your own plan? I know you said the sail was custom made for your specs. Just curios, Rick's hooter is giving me about 25% over stock but I have to be careful with the sheets as they are right under me.

How does your set up perform? Did you modify a hooter from Rick White or come up with your own plan? I know you said the sail was custom made for your specs. Just curios, Rick's hooter is giving me about 25% over stock but I have to be careful with the sheets as they are right under me.

I worked with my sailmaker (Joe Waters, Waters Sails, Columbia, SC) to come up with a design that had less overlap and could be sheeted to the shroud. We also decided that the pole needed to be 10' long for the best amount of separation from the mainsail.

Rigging the pole was a big concern because there is a lot of lift generated by the sail. I ended up with a small dolphin striker so as to induce prebend in the pole. I also have end pole and mid pole bridles (Spectra).

The performance is awesome and I am surprised at how easy to control it is.

I haven't tested boat for boat with Rick, but will do so in a few weeks at Put-In-Bay.

I have heard that Rick has gone to a longer (9') pole on his rig now.

If you are interested in a similar sail, I would highly recommend Joe Waters (803) 238-5638. It can be scaled to whatever pole length you deem appropriate.

How does your set up perform? Did you modify a hooter from Rick White or come up with your own plan? I know you said the sail was custom made for your specs. Just curios, Rick's hooter is giving me about 25% over stock but I have to be careful with the sheets as they are right under me.

I worked with my sailmaker (Joe Waters, Waters Sails, Columbia, SC) to come up with a design that had less overlap and could be sheeted to the shroud. We also decided that the pole needed to be 10' long for the best amount of separation from the mainsail.

Rigging the pole was a big concern because there is a lot of lift generated by the sail. I ended up with a small dolphin striker so as to induce prebend in the pole. I also have end pole and mid pole bridles (Spectra).

The performance is awesome and I am surprised at how easy to control it is.

I haven't tested boat for boat with Rick, but will do so in a few weeks at Put-In-Bay.

I have heard that Rick has gone to a longer (9') pole on his rig now.

If you are interested in a similar sail, I would highly recommend Joe Waters (803) 238-5638. It can be scaled to whatever pole length you deem appropriate.

Pictures from yesterday's test at Pt-In-Bay.

Rick White and Jack Woehrle

Rick and I at Put-In-Bay yesterday ready to go "mono on mono".

However, Rick is still in the developing stages of his new rig and had trouble getting enough luff tension on the hooter.

He needs to lower the pole and I think it will be fine.

Mine has a shorter luff so I can get it pretty tight. That is needed to get it to furl properly.

Someone asked if you can sail with it partly unfurled and the answer is NO...absolutely not. It is either all in or all out. That is because the top tends to roll out more material than the bottom which is restrained but the furler drum. Trust me, it doesn't work well partly unfurled.

After Rick came back in to reconsider his design, I went out in 8-12 knots and sailed for several hours.

It is really amazing the speed that develops on a beam to broad reach. The boat literally leaps out of the water and skips over the waves. Note that this is in the famous Lake Erie chop.

There is no hope to gain an advantage upwind compared to a uni-rig Wave, in my opinion.

I want to add a spinaker to my wave that currently has a jib with Jib kit hardware. Do I need any extra hardware for the spinaker?

Rick

Uh....yeah

Jack

How does your set up perform? Did you modify a hooter from Rick White or come up with your own plan? I know you said the sail was custom made for your specs. Just curios, Rick's hooter is giving me about 25% over stock but I have to be careful with the sheets as they are right under me.

Jack, you guys may want to consider starting a new thread: Taking it all the way...and beyond. One of my intense interests is Hovercrafts: This is one that would be amazing @$27k.

Based on the simple idea of economic return for your investments, would it not make more sense to buy a Hobie Wild Cat and consider other means of 'flying' as simple as looking at a pilot's license and leave the 'toy boats' on the beginner's circle?RegardsTri

Based on the simple idea of economic return for your investments, would it not make more sense to buy a Hobie Wild Cat and consider other means of 'flying' as simple as looking at a pilot's license and leave the 'toy boats' on the beginner's circle?RegardsTri

Both Rick and I have been sailing high performance cats for 40 years...Sharks, Tornados, Hobies, Nacras, etc.

We are not interested in faster and more complex boats anymore.

We are Wave sailors and we race them..several times a week, in fact.

How many folks that read this forum really race Waves in one-design fleets?

Jack Thank you for your reply.I respect what you have done with these boats. I also appreciate the fact that it is obvious that you both have the required experience to use these highly modified boats as you have. Well done!! However, in reality, most people use these boats in their unmodified version; some have added a few additions to increase their own level of satisfaction for better performance. As having over 40 years of experience in various recreational crafts both in the mono, dual, and triple hull versions, I simply offer my own opinion as to what is suitable to the majority of rec. sailors. As to my consideration of this craft as a 'Toy', it is as well as your own boat. The last time I checked, Hobie Inc. sells toys in various forms.

If I was not interested in toys, I would have 'grown up' and spent my money to buy shares in the banking system. Looks like my money went to the right place due to far better dividends from my 'toys'!