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Well... you know... non-fiction. Books on history, philosophy, psychology... Like the books on my nightstand at home right now are This is Your Brain on Music, Generation Debt, Foucault's The History of Sexuality, and Beware the Talking Cure.

oh.

Oh yeah you're right about what you were saying earlier then. I misunderstood entirely. But I would argue still though, that say the short story Brokeback mountain would affect me more than a non fiction essay (is that what you call it?) book about how dreadful it is to be gay in the midwest.

Anytime a female offers to get naked it just takes the challenge out of the whole deal.

So, I !pass, on naked passerby

Nah, not offering. Being forced to by Mike.

He's such a misogynist.

Well, MikeMan is totally Heinleinian. Fucker loves him some Robert Heinlein. If you're a woman and you're not walking around naked offering blowjobs to every man in sight, then you're just not liberated enough.

Anytime a female offers to get naked it just takes the challenge out of the whole deal.

So, I !pass, on naked passerby

Nah, not offering. Being forced to by Mike.

He's such a misogynist.

Well, MikeMan is totally Heinleinian. Fucker loves him some Robert Heinlein. If you're a woman and you're not walking around naked offering blowjobs to every man in sight, then you're just not liberated enough.

Anytime a female offers to get naked it just takes the challenge out of the whole deal.

So, I !pass, on naked passerby

Nah, not offering. Being forced to by Mike.

He's such a misogynist.

Well, MikeMan is totally Heinleinian. Fucker loves him some Robert Heinlein. If you're a woman and you're not walking around naked offering blowjobs to every man in sight, then you're just not liberated enough.

So I decided to try out Baldur's Gate after all this time owning a copy...created a mage and...I only get to use Magic Missile once? WTF?

Uhm, you have never played or read over the basic rules of Dungeons & Dragons before?

Spells and special abilities are not as common as in most fantasy games, especially at lower levels you will have to depend on your common weapons a lot more. As you progress you'll get to learn more spells, but you still won't be able to just spam them. That's not how magic works in D&D.

I didn't mean to suggest earlier that the method is to replace their religious faith with the secular optimism I elaborated on in the post you quoted. That "faith" is what I recommend to otherwise faithless people who have a hard time identifying with people of religious faith, and who tend towards a negative or overly pessimistic view of people in general.

With regard to what you're talking about, your optimism and open-mindedness re: their conservative beliefs will earn you some trust, which you can then use to help explain why your secular morality and their religious beliefs are not incompatible. Once you get to the point where you can both agree that intelligent adults can have otherwise conflicting views on certain issues, and yet still agree that the other is a "good person," you can begin to use that common ground to broaden their world view.

Most religious conservatives think that the secular world is openly hostile to them. You need to show them otherwise, but you can't do that if you don't trust them first. Believe it or not, even the most dour fundamentalist tends to think of themselves as being "optimistic," because they believe that God will solve their problems in the end. You need to show them that you can be optimistic too, because you believe that mankind, as children of God, have the ability to recognize and choose the right path. You can co-opt their own logic, use their faith to help convince them, so long as you're sincere and they don't think you're just trying to manipulate their beliefs to your advantage.

Zimmydoom, Zimmydoom
Flew away in a balloon
Had sex with polar bears
While sitting in a reclining chair
Now there are Zim-Bear hybrids
Running around and clawing eyelids
Watch out, a Zim-Bear is about to have sex with yooooooou!

Anytime a female offers to get naked it just takes the challenge out of the whole deal.

So, I !pass, on naked passerby

Nah, not offering. Being forced to by Mike.

He's such a misogynist.

Well, MikeMan is totally Heinleinian. Fucker loves him some Robert Heinlein. If you're a woman and you're not walking around naked offering blowjobs to every man in sight, then you're just not liberated enough.

Ironic then, since I'm clothed, but he's the one offering blowjobs. Guess that means he's a confused misogynist. 'Cause you never run into people like that.

So I decided to try out Baldur's Gate after all this time owning a copy...created a mage and...I only get to use Magic Missile once? WTF?

Uhm, you have never played or read over the basic rules of Dungeons & Dragons before?

Spells and special abilities are not as common as in most fantasy games, especially at lower levels you will have to depend on your common weapons a lot more. As you progress you'll get to learn more spells, but you still won't be able to just spam them. That's not how magic works in D&D.

Magic often doesn't work in D&D.

Cloak of Spell Reflect: oh yes, the spell worked...and then it pulled a U-turn.

Anytime a female offers to get naked it just takes the challenge out of the whole deal.

So, I !pass, on naked passerby

Nah, not offering. Being forced to by Mike.

He's such a misogynist.

Well, MikeMan is totally Heinleinian. Fucker loves him some Robert Heinlein. If you're a woman and you're not walking around naked offering blowjobs to every man in sight, then you're just not liberated enough.

Ironic then, since I'm clothed, but he's the one offering blowjobs. Guess that means he's a confused misogynist. 'Cause you never run into people like that.

Zimmydoom, Zimmydoom
Flew away in a balloon
Had sex with polar bears
While sitting in a reclining chair
Now there are Zim-Bear hybrids
Running around and clawing eyelids
Watch out, a Zim-Bear is about to have sex with yooooooou!

So I decided to try out Baldur's Gate after all this time owning a copy...created a mage and...I only get to use Magic Missile once? WTF?

Uhm, you have never played or read over the basic rules of Dungeons & Dragons before?

Spells and special abilities are not as common as in most fantasy games, especially at lower levels you will have to depend on your common weapons a lot more. As you progress you'll get to learn more spells, but you still won't be able to just spam them. That's not how magic works in D&D.

Magic often doesn't work in D&D.

Cloak of Spell Reflect: oh yes, the spell worked...and then it pulled a U-turn.

Zimmydoom, Zimmydoom
Flew away in a balloon
Had sex with polar bears
While sitting in a reclining chair
Now there are Zim-Bear hybrids
Running around and clawing eyelids
Watch out, a Zim-Bear is about to have sex with yooooooou!

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Zimmydoom, Zimmydoom
Flew away in a balloon
Had sex with polar bears
While sitting in a reclining chair
Now there are Zim-Bear hybrids
Running around and clawing eyelids
Watch out, a Zim-Bear is about to have sex with yooooooou!