you all have to look at this area too
Microsoft Live shows all angles...
I did not check GOOGLE live...
thanks for the map...

xoinnocent831

08-06-2008, 09:32 PM

3935 Sutton Place Apartments
Winter Park,Fl 32792

you all have to look at this area too
Microsoft Live shows all angles...
I did not check GOOGLE live...
thanks for the map...

what does sutton place/the fullsail area have to do with anything?

websurfer

08-07-2008, 10:10 AM

what does sutton place/the fullsail area have to do with anything?

I would think any area Casey stayed at or visited would have something to do with the case.

Just because Tony says the last time he saw Caylee was
in the apartment pool when she was saying ' look at me!Look at me' while playing with plastic plates that day doesn't mean his area is off limits for important locations.
I was thinking she made trips to that area too.
If you look on the map the route to TONY'S is on
GOLDENROD which if followed comes to the intersection she left the car...
so that including the waterways there ans trees and all...
that is why I asked to have it also included on the map....

follow GOLDENROD up to Tony's & you will see it would be easy to travel to and from that area as easily as any route she seems to have taken.

Since Goldenrod & Colonial is where the car was located in that Amscot lot,well logical to me she made some sort of circle?

Plus I see several bridges which are passing over water.

FLbeachdawg

08-08-2008, 12:35 PM

what does sutton place/the fullsail area have to do with anything?

It's where Tony lives

IntriguedMind

08-08-2008, 01:42 PM

What proximity does JP Chatts place have to the sawgrass apartments?
Has anyone Mapped that?
I believe I read somewhere that they were across the street from eachother?

Thanks

xoinnocent831

08-08-2008, 04:29 PM

I would think any area Casey stayed at or visited would have something to do with the case.

Just because Tony says the last time he saw Caylee was
in the apartment pool when she was saying ' look at me!Look at me' while playing with plastic plates that day doesn't mean his area is off limits for important locations.
I was thinking she made trips to that area too.
If you look on the map the route to TONY'S is on
GOLDENROD which if followed comes to the intersection she left the car...
so that including the waterways there ans trees and all...
that is why I asked to have it also included on the map....

follow GOLDENROD up to Tony's & you will see it would be easy to travel to and from that area as easily as any route she seems to have taken.

Since Goldenrod & Colonial is where the car was located in that Amscot lot,well logical to me she made some sort of circle?

Plus I see several bridges which are passing over water.

sorry, im behind on things and i didnt ever catch anything about him living here. i live there. ha.

TripleA

08-08-2008, 05:48 PM

On that google map, it is missing the 3rd address that Casey took the police to when she took them on that goose chase. It is listed in the warrant as The Crossings at Conway condos/townhomes and it was where Casey said that ZG's mother lived before (as well as the address across from Glenwood).

Reality Orlando

08-09-2008, 03:33 PM

I'd like to know what other businesses are there...
And what is behind Amscot?

Also...When Casey says they went to the beach...
Any ideas where? TIA

Directly across the street in one direction is a CVS Pharmacy. Across from that and diagonal to the Amscot is a Veterinary clinic. Directly across the street is another Check Cashing business and next to that an insurance agency. Next door to the Amscot is a Burger King.

The closest beach to there I would think would be Cocoa Beach. Daytona Beach is north of Cocoa and south of Cocoa the next large area is pretty much Melbourne with lots of small towns in between such as Titusville.

Has anyone heard whether LE has taken any tracking (scent) dogs out to the apartment complex on Conway (Sawgrass Apts.) and surrounding area? Also, Lake Tennessee is right across the street from the apt. complex. What about using a sonar scanner and/or divers to check this lake as well as cadaver and tracking dogs? It looks like a fairly large area. Any websluethers been to this lake who can tell us how secluded it might be at night?

That's what I thought too - He has several friends with last names fernandez or Gonsolaz (or however that is spelled!)as well

Amberjack

08-10-2008, 11:46 AM

I'm beginning to think JP is the father of Caylee

Could Casey...who needed money....been trying to blackmail him?

Casey would blame anyone for this tragedy
A stranger named ZG
or even JP

It was right after Father's Day.........

TripleA

08-10-2008, 12:10 PM

ricardo & jp lived across from the sawgrass apts?

Jp & family could be the ny-nc-pr reference.....

jp does not live across from the sawgrass apartments!

Sparky

08-10-2008, 12:27 PM

jp does not live across from the sawgrass apartments!

Thank you TripleA for posting this. I kept seeing it and was trying to figure why it kept coming up. IIRC None of them live across from Sawgrass.

servingothers

08-21-2008, 12:44 PM

Hi, I have been reading a lot of different things with several clues from most being different or separate from others. One in particular that caught my attention was Hill Street in Eustis. Well I checked and there is a Hill Ave. in Orlando not far from the Orlando Airport, Blanchard Park, Winter Park. It is Between 417 and 4 (two numbers I remember being mentioned). There are a lot of things similar in some of these clues. Maybe someone out there who knows the vicinity needs to put all the clues together and then map them.

Molly B

Truth Seeker

09-08-2008, 02:26 PM

I came across this map with all the places and locations that have been searched for Caylee. You can zoom in and see any of these places.

I keep getting error on page. Is it just me? Everyone else can see the map? I get to google with a blank page.

Ginny

09-08-2008, 02:53 PM

Very nice map! Thank you!

marmar

09-08-2008, 02:53 PM

Very interesting, thank you for sharing. I've never seen this before. And I also find it very interesting that according to the map, no search has been done at or near Oviedo. Wasn't that the place that was mentioned that was a future potential place for her to be living? If so, it would seem that would be within her "comfort zone" as Tim put it. If she were planning on moving there eventually (and I could be totally wrong about that), it might make sense that she might be there, since KC stated that she felt she was "close".

I am off to search where Oviedo came up. I thought it was in conversations with her and Amy and a house there, which is also where GA said he was going to "search" that one day, with his billboard in tow.

addyM3

09-08-2008, 02:54 PM

Nice job! Bravo!!

princess

09-08-2008, 02:58 PM

:clap::clap::clap:

Nice....

Secretsolver

09-08-2008, 03:06 PM

This is a great post with the map!! For those of us that live here in Orlando, it is a great reference point on where we can help in the search when it resumes.
I believe the area of the Greeneway (aka 417) and the Boggy Creek exit was also searched. This area is a lot of brush and further out is Lake Toho where there could be a number
of places she could be.

Samijeansg

09-08-2008, 03:13 PM

Very cool to see all the places on the map! I know I and our team was at a few of them!

BondJamesBond

09-08-2008, 03:13 PM

I thought posting locations that had been searched was a serious no-no!

Read it in a sticky on the forum (sorry - can't find it @ the moment).

Gist of 'why' is that it would help someone w/ intent and opportunity to re-locate evidence to a location that has already been searched!

Spangle

09-08-2008, 03:30 PM

I thought they were searching off Weterbee Rd. This doesn't show a search near there at all. It does show 'interesting Names' and that Gales's Team work that area. Found something on 8/30.

Spangle

09-08-2008, 03:34 PM

I thought posting locations that had been searched was a serious no-no!

Read it in a sticky on the forum (sorry - can't find it @ the moment).

Gist of 'why' is that it would help someone w/ intent and opportunity to re-locate evidence to a location that has already been searched!

That makes sense. I was thinking the other way. So folks were go look where others havent'.

Also, I would be hard for the Anthonys to do anything, without someone watching them do it. But it would be the same with all cases that come up.

BondJamesBond

09-08-2008, 03:50 PM

That makes sense. I was thinking the other way. So folks were go look where others havent'.

Also, I would be hard for the Anthonys to do anything, without someone watching them do it. But it would be the same with all cases that come up.

Don't get me wrong, its as interesting to me as the next guy (so to speak).

Also - I don't think there's enough evidence to rule out accomplice(s) outside the family.

...personally, didn't see the spots on my short list on this map (e.g. Anthony home, Lake Underhill, or Central Winds park. :whistle:

truthsleuth

09-08-2008, 03:53 PM

Thank you so much, Truth Seeker! I was hoping to find such a map.

And Intrigued Mind? Good job! Interesting star pattern ... Is there some meaning to that?

IntriguedMind

09-08-2008, 04:01 PM

What is fireworks? Looks cool...I'll have to try to find it (unless you post back soon)!
Fireworks is just a photo editing software from Macromedia/Adobe! :)

And Intrigued Mind? Good job! Interesting star pattern ... Is there some meaning to that?
Not that I know of.. I tried googling but am at a loss of how to search if theres any meaning at all!

I would love a map with the cell pings on them. Anyone know if it is posted somewhere? I've done a lot of map searching and I posted a map of all the addresses in the 431-page document last month on this site. When doing that, I noticed that a lot of the expressways have toll booths. What kind of records do they keep if any? Could Casey be tracked using those records?

Laneymae

09-09-2008, 01:47 AM

I came across this map with all the places and locations that have been searched for Caylee. You can zoom in and see any of these places.

I would love a map with the cell pings on them. Anyone know if it is posted somewhere? I've done a lot of map searching and I posted a map of all the addresses in the 431-page document last month on this site. When doing that, I noticed that a lot of the expressways have toll booths. What kind of records do they keep if any? Could Casey be tracked using those records?

OOH, great sleuth thought! Oooh, me likey!

Not sure down there, but where I live, as you get on & off toll expressways, your license plate is caught on camera. Anyone know if technology like that is used in FL?

Baznme

09-09-2008, 09:20 PM

OOH, great sleuth thought! Oooh, me likey!

Not sure down there, but where I live, as you get on & off toll expressways, your license plate is caught on camera. Anyone know if technology like that is used in FL?

Yes, I know they do have video that takes pictures of the cars, drivers and plates to minimize the number of toll runners. If you don't pay, you get a ticket. Trouble is I don't know how long they keep them before re-recording.

Shavaun

09-09-2008, 09:43 PM

neatttttttt

TrailDog

09-09-2008, 10:09 PM

Yes, I know they do have video that takes pictures of the cars, drivers and plates to minimize the number of toll runners. If you don't pay, you get a ticket. Trouble is I don't know how long they keep them before re-recording.

Unfortunately, in my experience, I've found most toll cameras are either A)not functioning or B) dont even record the photos they take. That's not to say this is the case here, but it's likely with the E-pass system in place. (hopefull people don't start running tolls because of that! lol)

ThoughtElf

09-09-2008, 11:04 PM

Thanks for the feedback, Baz & TrailDog.

This idea interests me, so I really appreciate the input. I think QuietStorm is on to a good idea for further investigation.

seagull65

09-10-2008, 06:13 PM

I know a lot of websleuthers can clarify the locations and places involved with the players in this case for others like me: Who lived where and when? Where are the places in relation to each other, etc. Maybe we can put it together here in one place. If there is another thread already please let me know so I can delete this. I didn't want to put too many questions or discussion on the "players" thread. Thanks!

Also, if anyone knows of any outside-of-Orlando locations that are or might be connected with any of the players, OR where you wish investigators would search for (a living) Caylee, you can post them here. ONLY post information here which is already public record (for example, available in public records on the internet.) Thanks!

Obviously, in NO case should anyone bother anyone at any of these locations or trespass on any property. It is not implied that any person mentioned has been involved in any wrongdoing, all are thought to be innocent.

I think there are other threads regarding searching for a body so let's NOT discuss that topic on this thread. Thanks!

princess

09-10-2008, 06:21 PM

I believe this thread should help you out..poster has posted a awesome map with addresses of main places/players as well as areas known to have been searched...

Edited to add..There is also another similar type of map here with just the addresses of the players known..I can not remember the name of thread. Do a search you should be able to find it somewhere here..maybe a fellow WS knows were it is located on here..If so your thread can be merged with one or the other.. KWIM?

:)

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70624

seagull65

09-10-2008, 06:35 PM

I came up with the address 232 N. Glenwood Ave, Apt 5, Orlando, listed under the name of JP's father, can someone tell me, is this address within the Sawgrass complex? Thanks

Also, which Sawgrass apartments were occupied by players?

I think if we can first list the locations, then we can make a side note of who lived or worked at which location during what time frame, including CMA, kind of like on the players thread but listing it by place and date. Thanks!

seagull65

09-10-2008, 06:36 PM

That map is nice for seeing where some of the main places are on the map, thanks Princess! And that answers my question about where Glenwood Ave address and Sawgrass Apts are in relation to each other. Thanks

Hopefully on this thread we can add a little more about who was living where during which time frame, any other places connected with players, any locations in reported sightings, etc. Thanks!

seagull65

09-10-2008, 07:00 PM

Just getting started here, please list away knowledgeable people!

Sawgrass vacant apartment, identified to police by CMA as where she dropped Caylee off with sitter.

Wow! This should make it easier for George and Cindy.....since they are actively searching.....to know which places to check off their lists.

seagull65

09-10-2008, 07:54 PM

OK, this is a little confusing I had just started a thread as described above, and someone bumped up this old thread and merged the two, this older thread includes where they've searched for a body, etc. Now my new thread is embedded in this one. The new thread I started was supposed to not include anything about searches for a body. It was to make a list, kind of like the "PLAYERS" list, but by location, where we could add info about each location, who was at each location on what dates, etc, and include any areas where players have other addresses, places indicated in reported sightings, etc, all places in the case. Mine was to be mainly a quick reference list by place, no TES or searching for a body info since that exists elsewhere. Princess had added the link for this older thread and map on my thread so people could see the map etc. Should I split my own thread off again and continue compiling the list? Or is there some reason I can't do that? This is a great thread too, I don't see why they couldn't run at the same time.

Has anyone heard whether LE has taken any tracking (scent) dogs out to the apartment complex on Conway (Sawgrass Apts.) and surrounding area? Also, Lake Tennessee is right across the street from the apt. complex. What about using a sonar scanner and/or divers to check this lake as well as cadaver and tracking dogs? It looks like a fairly large area. Any websluethers been to this lake who can tell us how secluded it might be at night?

This was asked a while ago but I figured I would answer it anyways- Lake Tennessee is located in a well populated area almost right next to Conway Rd. The lake is completely surrounded by a large chain link fence at access areas. I would not suspect that it would have anything to do with this case just due to the fact that it would be so difficult to get into without being seen or being able to get over the fence.

princess

09-13-2008, 11:11 AM

Just a bump since there are searchers today..

Theonly1

09-14-2008, 08:08 AM

I really think this area needs to be combed, if it has not been done already. MUD LAKE. See map

http://www.cityoforlando.net/gis/pdf/nbhd/OrlandoIntAirport.pdf.

Mud Lake is the southernmost lake on the map.

Theonly1

09-14-2008, 08:14 AM

This was asked a while ago but I figured I would answer it anyways- Lake Tennessee is located in a well populated area almost right next to Conway Rd. The lake is completely surrounded by a large chain link fence at access areas. I would not suspect that it would have anything to do with this case just due to the fact that it would be so difficult to get into without being seen or being able to get over the fence.

I just wanted to bump up that I was incorrect when I stated a few weeks ago that the lake across from Sawgrass apartments had a chain-link fence the entire way along the street. It does have a chain link, but there is a good 150 feet or more of frontage right to the lake. Mind you, it can kind of be seen from busy Conway road, but what caught my eye was I saw someone had a car pulled up to the lake last week in this very spot. So I wanted to note that correction :).

Amberjack

09-14-2008, 11:36 AM

Sawgrass: Lake Vaj Apt (who else stayed here?)

I don't think "Lake Vaj" is at Sawgrass Apts.
It seems to be a private home....Where?

Sawgrass Plantation?

Pink Panther

09-14-2008, 11:54 AM

Someone mentioned the Sawgrass Plantation elsewhere and I can't find it!!! They also mentioned that there was a Buona Vista/Vida near to it. Does anyone else remember seeing this post???

Also, there is a "Sawgrass" in Mt. Dora as well. I don't know how to link the google map but it comes up right away when you type in "Sawgrass Mt. Dora".

That's where KC's grandparents are, I think.

Amberjack

09-14-2008, 12:09 PM

Just below the airport is a new community built by M/I Homes called Sawgrass Plantation...One of the home designs is: Bella Vida. This area has been searched IIRC. There is also a Bella Vida Blvd. in this community.

For "some reason" Casey believed she was coming into money.........
Inheritance, life insurance, or payoff.....

princess

09-26-2008, 09:45 PM

bumping

Reality Orlando

09-30-2008, 01:18 AM

Don't get me wrong, its as interesting to me as the next guy (so to speak).

Also - I don't think there's enough evidence to rule out accomplice(s) outside the family.

...personally, didn't see the spots on my short list on this map (e.g. Anthony home, Lake Underhill, or Central Winds park. :whistle:

I would seriously doubt Lake Underhill. It's in walking distance from me and there is a lot of construction there. It's a very small park and it can be seen from a fairly busy road. It's also a "meet up" place for a certain group and so it's often "in use" day and night.

There is a place that a local psychic pointed out to me that she felt had a strong presence for her to Caylee. It's a batting cage and driving range not far from the airport. It's just off Woodgate Rd. There are lots of woods there and I would imagine you could pull far enough into the back to not be seen at night. I did give this as a tip to TES just when they were calling everything off and it's not noted as having been searched on the map. Might be worth a look for anyone trying to come up with areas to search. It's off Goldenrod which is one route that would tie the airport to the Anthony's house.

celebraion

09-30-2008, 06:42 AM

The work that WSers are doing on maps is amazing. I wish I had time to plot and analyze and study, but I just started graduate school and I'm already taking too much time away from my school studies.

I wish I had time to go to Orlando and search. I want to know, who is searching for Caylee? Are people still searching? How can the Anthony's stand by idly? I think I would be out there roaming the streets, checking every nook and cranny, every single day. Is the case just "open" or is LE still actively searching for Caylee, as in making calls, going door to door, and taking out the dogs to sniff around?

Like I said, all the maps are great, but what good are they if the places have gone cold and no one is out there looking?

Sorry...I guess I am feeling helpless this morning.

cocoamom

09-30-2008, 08:56 AM

The work that WSers are doing on maps is amazing. I wish I had time to plot and analyze and study, but I just started graduate school and I'm already taking too much time away from my school studies.

I wish I had time to go to Orlando and search. I want to know, who is searching for Caylee? Are people still searching? How can the Anthony's stand by idly? I think I would be out there roaming the streets, checking every nook and cranny, every single day. Is the case just "open" or is LE still actively searching for Caylee, as in making calls, going door to door, and taking out the dogs to sniff around?

Like I said, all the maps are great, but what good are they if the places have gone cold and no one is out there looking?

Sorry...I guess I am feeling helpless this morning.

I live in Brevard County - neighboring Orlando. I am going to Orlando this weekend and am looking in some areas I have been collecting off of this site. I lived in Orlando for 15 years - Oviedo, Chuluota, by UCF, Winter Park, and yes, in an apartment on Econ Trail right by Blanchard Park. I know the area and am going myself to look on Saturday until I find something, answer all our questions or get so creeped out I can't do it anymore. I agree with the Sawgrass Plantation area too and plan to go down there even though it's a ways. I also am going to check out a sort of park on Seminole Ave. off of Conway Rd (almost at the intersection of Conway Rd and 528) the park is on a huge lake...any more places you all want me to go? I am taking my camera too so you all can see what I see. Will that help?

chelle70

09-30-2008, 10:59 AM

Thank you for doing that Cocoa!:) Can't wait to see the pics....I am from Florida and have been in the Carolinas for about 5 years now. I miss it down there. Good luck and keep in touch w/ any findings.
Thanks again for your efforts!

BondJamesBond

09-30-2008, 11:42 AM

I live in Brevard County - neighboring Orlando. I am going to Orlando this weekend and am looking in some areas I have been collecting off of this site. I lived in Orlando for 15 years - Oviedo, Chuluota, by UCF, Winter Park, and yes, in an apartment on Econ Trail right by Blanchard Park. I know the area and am going myself to look on Saturday until I find something, answer all our questions or get so creeped out I can't do it anymore. I agree with the Sawgrass Plantation area too and plan to go down there even though it's a ways. I also am going to check out a sort of park on Seminole Ave. off of Conway Rd (almost at the intersection of Conway Rd and 528) the park is on a huge lake...any more places you all want me to go? I am taking my camera too so you all can see what I see. Will that help?

Cocoamom:

1) Central Winds Park: esp. along the Lake Jessup waterfront (walking trail?) and add'l lake/pond located there (east side IIRC).

2) Lake Underhill: (a) off small docks that jut out into lake, (b) along waters edge on east side of lake from south edge of expressway to edge of occluded view just south of parking lot, (c) waters edge behind landscaping on west side of lake next to south side of expressway (d) depot area on west side of lake, just over on the north side of expressway if accessible. This appears to be adjacent to Orlando Execute Airport property and may be inaccessible. Depot appears to be full of loose-dirt/gravel, empty traffic/construction barrels, and along waters edge.

3) Wooded area on (south) side of 895 N Lake Jessup Road property.

You may want to PM WS'rs VickiInLongwood and UCFMommy who are also locals that have been searching.

Good luck & above all...BE CAREFUL!!!

TexasLil

09-30-2008, 12:10 PM

I live in Brevard County - neighboring Orlando. I am going to Orlando this weekend and am looking in some areas I have been collecting off of this site. I lived in Orlando for 15 years - Oviedo, Chuluota, by UCF, Winter Park, and yes, in an apartment on Econ Trail right by Blanchard Park. I know the area and am going myself to look on Saturday until I find something, answer all our questions or get so creeped out I can't do it anymore. I agree with the Sawgrass Plantation area too and plan to go down there even though it's a ways. I also am going to check out a sort of park on Seminole Ave. off of Conway Rd (almost at the intersection of Conway Rd and 528) the park is on a huge lake...any more places you all want me to go? I am taking my camera too so you all can see what I see. Will that help?

Bless you Cocoa. I only wish I could jump on a plane and come help you search. My heart has been torn to pieces wanting to find this little girl. It sounds like your heart is in the same place. I wish you the best and will be praying for your safety and that Caylee is found.

I spotten an area on the map when looking at the cell phone pings. It seems very secluded and there appears to be a small building next to the pond on the North Side.

1) Central Winds Park: esp. along the Lake Jessup waterfront (walking trail?) and add'l lake/pond located there (east side IIRC).

2) Lake Underhill: (a) off small docks that jut out into lake, (b) along waters edge on east side of lake from south edge of expressway to edge of occluded view just south of parking lot, (c) waters edge behind landscaping on west side of lake next to south side of expressway (d) depot area on west side of lake, just over on the north side of expressway if accessible. This appears to be adjacent to Orlando Execute Airport property and may be inaccessible. Depot appears to be full of loose-dirt/gravel, empty traffic/construction barrels, and along waters edge.

3) Wooded area on (south) side of 895 N Lake Jessup Road property.

You may want to PM WS'rs VickiInLongwood and UCFMommy who are also locals that have been searching.

Good luck & above all...BE CAREFUL!!!

OK, got it - I got a PM from VickiInLongwood and responded so hopefully I can meet up with them so we don't waste efforts searching where we already have. 3 people / 6 eyes are better than 1/2!!!

JMCDAD

09-30-2008, 12:41 PM

Doesn't look like there have been any searches near Fusion
any idea why
is it just because the landscape

VickiInLongwood

09-30-2008, 01:27 PM

ok, got it - i got a pm from vickiinlongwood and responded so hopefully i can meet up with them so we don't waste efforts searching where we already have. 3 people / 6 eyes are better than 1/2!!!

central winds park has been cleared...all along the trail (in the park) along the lake. This lake is huge however and is still in some places 1-2 miles beyond it's banks...on the north side.

websurfer

09-30-2008, 07:21 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Buena_Vista

:confused:

isn't it?

Baznme

09-30-2008, 08:00 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Buena_Vista

:confused:

isn't it?

"Bella Vida"

Tracy1

09-30-2008, 08:28 PM

I don't know where to ask this....but what about the Bithlo area, including lake Pickett and Chuluota Rd.? It was memtioned in a few of the interviews.

Also, I believe it was Ricardo who said KC used to date someone out "that way" near 50 and Afalaya, near Lake Pickett??

THEN to find handwritten directions in Tony's jeep refering a street out there called Chuluota Rd.

Tracy1

09-30-2008, 08:31 PM

I'm just curious if it's important. It sees out of her comfort zone. Also, LE were adament when asking Ricardo if he knew anyone who lived out there.

And it seems to be a little remote? And Lake Pickett is large.

Baznme

09-30-2008, 09:37 PM

OK, got it - I got a PM from VickiInLongwood and responded so hopefully I can meet up with them so we don't waste efforts searching where we already have. 3 people / 6 eyes are better than 1/2!!!

cocoamom: Although I think it's admirable that you are brave enough to do this on your own with a small group, I urge you to take extra care when searching around these lakes, especially Lake Jessup. It's my understanding that there are many thousand gators in Lake Jessup alone.

Pink Panther

09-30-2008, 09:51 PM

I don't know where to ask this....but what about the Bithlo area, including lake Pickett and Chuluota Rd.? It was memtioned in a few of the interviews.

Also, I believe it was Ricardo who said KC used to date someone out "that way" near 50 and Afalaya, near Lake Pickett??

THEN to find handwritten directions in Tony's jeep refering a street out there called Chuluota Rd.
Tracy - Where are these handwritten directions mentioned??? I seem to have completely missed those and would love to read/see them! Can you tell me which document/interview to look in??? :)

momtective

09-30-2008, 10:01 PM

I worked June 16thcell phone pings from KC’s cell yesterday, identified most of the ph numbers and took screen shots of each map. I focused on the 16th because we know that Caylee was alive on the 15th and Casey began to live with TL on the 16th...no Caylee at TL's. I’ve uploaded the doc to docstoc June 16th cell pings with maps http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1655021/detailed-cell-calls

I didn't repeat the maps for multiple same areas...like if there were 4 calls from the same area I only applied one map of that area...most of the time anyway.

cocoamom

09-30-2008, 10:04 PM

cocoamom: Although I think it's admirable that you are brave enough to do this on your own with a small group, I urge you to take extra care when searching around these lakes, especially Lake Jessup. It's my understanding that there are many thousand gators in Lake Jessup alone.

Don't worry, I have a lot of experience in watching for and being around the gators. We practically lived on an airboat for fun when we dated and through the first half of our marriage. I know gators are sometimes almost impossible to see and you can even come darned close to stepping on one they blend into the mud and grasses so well. A baby alligator only a couple of days old can take off your finger! I don't go anywhere near that kind of environment!!! I will have binoculars with me too and will do the best I can without getting near any danger. I am invited with a group but would still like to check out a couple of areas that I don't think they have on the agenda and will have to do so with the hubby (reluctant hubby) and a friend. I still plan on searching with their group too though!

I lived on Willingham Rd in Chuluota. Willingham spurs off of "Old Chuluota Rd" which turns into Snowhill Road - known party area for generations...there is also just "Chuluota Road" which goes all the way to Hwy 50. This is miles and miles of road. If you google map you will see. The homes in some areas are like mansions on Lake Pickett with acreage and gated communities, other areas are really run down old houses. No uniformity to much of the whole road. TONS AND TONS of woods, trails, four-wheeler trails, etc. Gotta be much more specific than road name. Look within 1 mile of the pinged towers - that should help.

Don't worry guys, I have my head on straight and won't be stupid! Thanks for the support everyone. I have learned a lot from some other searchers who have contacted me and there are some things that just can't be posted. I totally agree and understand that and why - for the safety of the searchers and the integrity of the case - it's that simple. I will do what I can to keep you all in the loop without breaking rules/laws, etc.!

momtective

09-30-2008, 10:30 PM

I live in Brevard County - neighboring Orlando. I am going to Orlando this weekend and am looking in some areas I have been collecting off of this site. I lived in Orlando for 15 years - Oviedo, Chuluota, by UCF, Winter Park, and yes, in an apartment on Econ Trail right by Blanchard Park. I know the area and am going myself to look on Saturday until I find something, answer all our questions or get so creeped out I can't do it anymore. I agree with the Sawgrass Plantation area too and plan to go down there even though it's a ways. I also am going to check out a sort of park on Seminole Ave. off of Conway Rd (almost at the intersection of Conway Rd and 528) the park is on a huge lake...any more places you all want me to go? I am taking my camera too so you all can see what I see. Will that help?

This area gives me the woolies...Casey's phone pinged from this area on June 16 @ 4:53pm...We know Caylee was alive on June 15th...Casey left the Anthony home with her on the 16th...Casey spent the night of the 16th at Tony L's and Caylee was not with her.
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr260/momtective/2008-06-16-165333.jpg

I worked June 16thcell phone pings from KCís cell yesterday, identified most of the ph numbers and took screen shots of each map. I focused on the 16th because we know that Caylee was alive on the 15th and Casey began to live with TL on the 16th...no Caylee at TL's. Iíve uploaded the doc to docstoc June 16th cell pings with maps http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1655021/detailed-cell-calls

I didn't repeat the maps for multiple same areas...like if there were 4 calls from the same area I only applied one map of that area...most of the time anyway.

momtective: Bravo for putting this together!! Great work! I'm wondering though, is there a way to make the maps larger in docstoc so I can read the names of the roads? Old eyes can't see as good as they used to.

mysterycat

09-30-2008, 11:15 PM

I worked June 16thcell phone pings from KCís cell yesterday, identified most of the ph numbers and took screen shots of each map. I focused on the 16th because we know that Caylee was alive on the 15th and Casey began to live with TL on the 16th...no Caylee at TL's. Iíve uploaded the doc to docstoc June 16th cell pings with maps http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1655021/detailed-cell-calls

I didn't repeat the maps for multiple same areas...like if there were 4 calls from the same area I only applied one map of that area...most of the time anyway.

Wow mom detective - you are working hard on this! Thank you. Do you live in Orlando.

momtective

09-30-2008, 11:21 PM

Wow mom detective - you are working hard on this! Thank you. Do you live in Orlando.

If I lived in Orlando I would not sleep until this baby was found! This case is heart wrenching...I just want this sweet baby found!
I really do wish I was there so I could search for her but I'm in Texas so my contribution will have to be via the internet,

Pink Panther

09-30-2008, 11:27 PM

WOW Momtective! That's a lot of work! Very interesting...I am having trouble really understanding the maps but I will definitely be looking this over with a clearer head tomorrow! Thanks for sharing. :)

mysterycat

09-30-2008, 11:36 PM

If I lived in Orlando I would not sleep until this baby was found! This case is heart wrenching...I just want this sweet baby found!
I really do wish I was there so I could search for her but I'm in Texas so my contribution will have to be via the internet,

Was wondering if you could put words in a post that match the map. If not I understand, you have done so much already. It would be easier for the rest of us to follow it I guess, those of us who are good with maps.
Anyways excellent job

momtective

09-30-2008, 11:37 PM

momtective: Bravo for putting this together!! Great work! I'm wondering though, is there a way to make the maps larger in docstoc so I can read the names of the roads? Old eyes can't see as good as they used to.

WOW Momtective! That's a lot of work! Very interesting...I am having trouble really understanding the maps but I will definitely be looking this over with a clearer head tomorrow! Thanks for sharing. :)

The maps only show the location of the cell pings. There will be a little icon on the map showing the location.

celebraion

10-01-2008, 05:59 AM

Don't worry, I have a lot of experience in watching for and being around the gators. We practically lived on an airboat for fun when we dated and through the first half of our marriage. I know gators are sometimes almost impossible to see and you can even come darned close to stepping on one they blend into the mud and grasses so well. A baby alligator only a couple of days old can take off your finger! I don't go anywhere near that kind of environment!!! I will have binoculars with me too and will do the best I can without getting near any danger. I am invited with a group but would still like to check out a couple of areas that I don't think they have on the agenda and will have to do so with the hubby (reluctant hubby) and a friend. I still plan on searching with their group too though!

I lived on Willingham Rd in Chuluota. Willingham spurs off of "Old Chuluota Rd" which turns into Snowhill Road - known party area for generations...there is also just "Chuluota Road" which goes all the way to Hwy 50. This is miles and miles of road. If you google map you will see. The homes in some areas are like mansions on Lake Pickett with acreage and gated communities, other areas are really run down old houses. No uniformity to much of the whole road. TONS AND TONS of woods, trails, four-wheeler trails, etc. Gotta be much more specific than road name. Look within 1 mile of the pinged towers - that should help.

Don't worry guys, I have my head on straight and won't be stupid! Thanks for the support everyone. I have learned a lot from some other searchers who have contacted me and there are some things that just can't be posted. I totally agree and understand that and why - for the safety of the searchers and the integrity of the case - it's that simple. I will do what I can to keep you all in the loop without breaking rules/laws, etc.!
Thank you, Cocoamom. Your efforts bring tears to my eyes. Please know that you will be in my prayers this weekend!

Reality Orlando

10-02-2008, 09:40 AM

Thank you, Cocoamom. Your efforts bring tears to my eyes. Please know that you will be in my prayers this weekend!

The one cell ping on the night in question is right near Woodgate Rd., which I mentioned before. There is also a small white utilitiy house right there, which was mentioned by another psychic. I know it's a stretch, but for a young woman on her own at night, this would seem like an easily accessable area, still wooded, but not too far out in the middle of no where. It's just off Goldenrod and not far from either the Airport or the Amscot. I hope if someone is looking for an area to search, this would be one.

websurfer

10-02-2008, 10:43 AM

I work right down the street from the Amscot and drove by there yesterday. If anyone has any questions regarding the area, I can probably help out there.

You could post?
She says she ran out of gas where on 50? And Goldenrod?

Amberjack

10-02-2008, 10:43 AM

Not sure if this is the place for this.....

IMO Oviedo is most likely the place. I wonder if they asked Amy
if Casey picked up her car info/mail from the house?

Car was seen at 7am in Amscot parking area
IMO She drove back from Oviedo on nearby #417
Got a car wash somewhere
Could have popped open the trunk as it went thru the wash
Disposed of any items at car wash trash recepticals
Casey calls TonE at 11am for a ride

Investigators should find out which car wash she pointed out to TonE
on another day.

Pink Panther

10-02-2008, 10:45 AM

Not sure if this is the place for this.....

IMO Oviedo is most likely the place. I wonder if they asked Amy
if Casey picked up her car info/mail from the house?

Car was seen at 7am in Amscot parking area
IMO She drove back from Oviedo on nearby #417
Got a car wash somewhere
Could have popped open the trunk as it went thru the wash
Disposed of any items at car wash trash recepticals
Casey calls TonE at 11am for a ride

Investigators should find out which car wash she pointed out to TonE
on another day.

She left a pizza to rot and other garbage in the trunk.

realist

10-02-2008, 10:46 AM

Not sure if this is the place for this.....

IMO Oviedo is most likely the place. I wonder if they asked Amy
if Casey picked up her car info/mail from the house?

Car was seen at 7am in Amscot parking area
IMO She drove back from Oviedo on nearby #417
Got a car wash somewhere
Could have popped open the trunk as it went thru the wash
Disposed of any items at car wash trash recepticals
Casey calls TonE at 11am for a ride

Investigators should find out which car wash she pointed out to TonE
on another day.

The car wash she pointed out is on 436 and Lk. Margaret. Aprox. 2 miles north of OIA.

realist

10-02-2008, 10:50 AM

The one cell ping on the night in question is right near Woodgate Rd., which I mentioned before. There is also a small white utilitiy house right there, which was mentioned by another psychic. I know it's a stretch, but for a young woman on her own at night, this would seem like an easily accessable area, still wooded, but not too far out in the middle of no where. It's just off Goldenrod and not far from either the Airport or the Amscot. I hope if someone is looking for an area to search, this would be one.

I am still working the pings at night (as well as searching by day).

When did she hit the Woodgate tower???????

She knows someone who lives very close to that tower.

Amberjack

10-02-2008, 11:15 AM

re: Casey's car after taking Caylee out

Is there a car wash between 417 & Goldenrod? TIA!

Celt1997

10-02-2008, 11:41 AM

I am still working the pings at night (as well as searching by day).

When did she hit the Woodgate tower???????

She knows someone who lives very close to that tower.

Which towers is the Woodgate tower? What is the closest intersection, or the lat/long?

realist

10-02-2008, 12:14 PM

Which towers is the Woodgate tower? What is the closest intersection, or the lat/long?

Curry Ford and Goldenrod.

cocoamom

10-02-2008, 03:25 PM

Could someone help me so I don't have to search the world here? I would like to know the places that her phone pinged on the 24th. Caught my eye that she made a 1 min call to mom from the A home and mom called her right back at 19:0610 for 12 minutes.

Did she maybe not have her cell with her or it was off/battery removed? Where did it ping at that time? This is the date that she cussed GA and gave him the gas cans from the trunk. I suspect the body was in there, not just the smell...more later, just need the ping locations for that time on the 24th of June...

Thanks so much!

Celt1997

10-02-2008, 03:38 PM

Could someone help me so I don't have to search the world here? I would like to know the places that her phone pinged on the 24th. Caught my eye that she made a 1 min call to mom from the A home and mom called her right back at 19:0610 for 12 minutes.

Did she maybe not have her cell with her or it was off/battery removed? Where did it ping at that time? This is the date that she cussed GA and gave him the gas cans from the trunk. I suspect the body was in there, not just the smell...more later, just need the ping locations for that time on the 24th of June...

Thanks so much!

The ping data for that time is within the area of TL's apartment.

I also noticed she had two VERY long calls with Amy H. that day. She had plenty of calls that were pretty long on the 24th (JG, AH, CA).

cocoamom

10-03-2008, 10:03 AM

The ping data for that time is within the area of TL's apartment.

I also noticed she had two VERY long calls with Amy H. that day. She had plenty of calls that were pretty long on the 24th (JG, AH, CA).

So how could her phone ping at AL's apt if she was at home talking to mom on the landline phone??? Hmmmm