Comments on: Irsay’s plea deal puts him in line for suspensionhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/31/irsays-plea-deal-puts-him-in-line-for-suspension/
ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.comFri, 09 Dec 2016 13:30:16 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: duwaynebairdhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/31/irsays-plea-deal-puts-him-in-line-for-suspension/#comment-3592420
Tue, 02 Sep 2014 03:54:21 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3592420You can’t penalize the team by reducing the salary cap because that changes the amount of spending that would be going to the players, which maybe doesn’t literally violate the CBA but certainly goes against the spirit of dividing up the money between players and owners. To my mind, a fine doesn’t hurt as much as it should, and a suspension is absurdly meaningless. I think the teeth of whatever punishment the league hands down has to include forfeiting a 3rd or 4th round pick. It hurts, but not to an extreme like a 1st round pick would. I think you have to hold higher standards for ownership than those for players. Owners (and their league-employed minion) are the ones who pushed for a Personal Conduct and Substance Abuse policy to be in place, and for that reason should absolutely not be above the “law” when it comes to reaping what they have sown.
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Mon, 01 Sep 2014 15:12:07 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3590758Of course draft picks and salary cap hurt the team. Just as losing a starting pro bowl defensive player for nine games hurts the team, even though the behavior was from an individual. Should be no different here. He represents the shield as much as any players, probably more considering he’ll be around for the team for 40+ years. He broke the law, tarnished the shield and will be punished in a manner that hurts his team. Just like aldon smith and ray rice and the rest of them…
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Mon, 01 Sep 2014 14:51:40 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3590730Suspension, yeah right. Goodell has his head rotate between Kraft’s, Jones and Irsays asses so I expect as much punishment for Irsay as Jones is going to get for tampering with the leagues best running back. The Commish isn’t going to cut the lifeline to his wallet. The guy has no cajunas.
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Mon, 01 Sep 2014 13:42:37 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-35906031st round pick.. That will set the tone and get the attention of the owners
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Mon, 01 Sep 2014 12:46:31 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3590513When 2075?
]]>By: lawyermalloyhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/31/irsays-plea-deal-puts-him-in-line-for-suspension/#comment-3590470
Mon, 01 Sep 2014 11:24:50 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3590470“This much is clear and undeniable. Irsay’s alleged operation of a motor vehicle while under the influence of prescription medication posed a much greater threat than Josh Gordon smoking marijuana ever did”

I disagree and so do the courts. Regardless of the “substance” taken, Impairment is Impairment; there is no distinction or difference in penalty under the law between marijuana, alcohol or pain pills and no greater threat! You can kill someone on any of those substance.

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Mon, 01 Sep 2014 11:21:13 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3590466Sometimes I wonder why I even expect a logical post on this site. Comparing the punishment that any first time offender like Irsay to that of a third offense like Gordons is plain ignorant.
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Mon, 01 Sep 2014 09:40:26 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3590439The League cannot assign community service as a punishment.

Draft picks and Salary Cap assessments hurt the team, which was not involved with Irsay’s behavior. These suggestions are usually put forward by fans of other teams who would love to get an advantage over an opponent for no reason.

Irsay is not bound by the CBA in this regard, but it is likely that the CBA will be misapplied to his case. So he’ll probably get a near-maximum fine and suspension (half year to year), neither of which will really have an effect on him. Some of that may be ameliorated by the fact that he settled his case relatively quickly, rather than wait for his court date later this year.

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Mon, 01 Sep 2014 08:14:28 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3590428Irsay should get the same treatment as a player or coach would get for his offenses.
The guy has an addiction and he needs help to beat it, just like some players do.
I only hope this humbles him and he does what ever is necessary to never have this happen again.
He does have a responsibility to set an example as the owner of the Colts. It’s pretty hard for the league to be cracking down on the players for their off the field conduct if you have an owner doing the same crap.
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Mon, 01 Sep 2014 07:48:28 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3590421Wow! A lot of people obsessed with Irsay.

Idiots saying Colts should lose draft picks are simply delusional. If it were the head coach I would agree.

Irsay cuts the cheques, unlike that zombie looking dude that owns Dallas, Irsay hires football people to make football decisions.

Just because he is kinda a clown and does shady business, doesn’t give the NFL the right to kill what Indy Coaches/ G.M have been working on.

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Mon, 01 Sep 2014 07:18:20 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3590417smh @ all those suggesting draft picks be taken away. He broke a real law, not some NFL by-law. Even if he is suspended that is not going to change anything. One of his family members will operate the team with instructions from him. So he’ll still be around.
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Mon, 01 Sep 2014 06:01:01 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3590396This Fine/Suspension BS has got me totally disinterested in the NFL anymore, and I’m not the only one.
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Mon, 01 Sep 2014 04:33:26 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3590342Suspension???+ he needs the Donald STERLING treatment….
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Mon, 01 Sep 2014 01:59:58 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3590112Um. And when players are suspended that doesn’t hurt the team or the fans? Use your brain.
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Mon, 01 Sep 2014 01:48:07 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3590071They are not going to take draft pick or salary cap. Get real people. What he did was wrong, fine him and or suspend him from team activitys.

When you take picks and salary cap. You not only penalize the team, but the fans as well. What next force him to sell the team?

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Mon, 01 Sep 2014 01:40:05 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3590060No suspension unless he speaks racist comments for 20 years.
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Mon, 01 Sep 2014 01:35:10 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3590052Scarlett letter(s)? DUI everywhere he goes for say,,,,ever?
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Mon, 01 Sep 2014 01:31:37 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3590046drunkwino and eagleswin both have good points. The owners are held accountable to the policy and so are the players. How they are held accountable varies. You can compare two owners with the same infraction and two players with the same infraction but you cannot adequately compare an owner and a player that share similar infractions. The players are bound by what their union and the league agreed to in the CBA. Anything not specified falls into the commissioner’s discretion. He will also consider mitigating and aggravating factors from the incidents and personal histories. Nothing dealing with an owner is specified at all so it will go to Goodell’s discretion. His discretion will not be used in a vacuum. This is a fellow owner so I would bet that the rest of the owners would weigh in on the matter. They have not agreed to a specific set of punishments like in the CBA but I have to assume there are rules/standards that they all agree to prior to being allowed to operate an NFL franchise.
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Mon, 01 Sep 2014 01:21:31 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3590028What difference does it make? Big deal he can’t be around his team for two weeks. This is such a non story it’s ridiculous.
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Mon, 01 Sep 2014 01:11:39 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3590004Watch, he’ll get popped for driving drunk again…Remember you heard it here first. Alcoholics, which he is, always drive drunk over and again, especially after getting popped the first time. He’s got the skin signs of a serious alki…
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Mon, 01 Sep 2014 01:10:32 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3590001Draft picks make sense to me. Look for the league to detail the rules of punishment for owners after this case. (A la Ray Rice domestic abuse rules)
Still not sure how all these scenarios for punishment ‘snuck up’ on the league. They should’ve already had this crap detailed out. Morons.
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Mon, 01 Sep 2014 00:52:33 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3589970Take away their first round pick if he hasn’t stupidly traded it away yet and shave 5 million off of their cap next season. That should be good for starters. Also have him submit 3 random drug test per month for an entire year.
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Mon, 01 Sep 2014 00:51:23 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3589965I can read but you still haven’t told me what the specified punishment is. You keep circling back to “required to avoid”. I didn’t dispute that but that’s all you have
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That’s not all “I” have, it’s what the league has. And how should I know what that joke of a commissioner is gonna do. This is a guy who suspended a wife beating for two games and a weed smoker for a year. In fact, the inane dictatorial way he handles disciplinary actions is one of the biggest reason he’s considered the worst commissioner in pro sports.

But the precedent is fairly clear. For a player, it’s a fine that hurts the player and a suspension that hurts him and the team. What seems equivalent is a six figure fine (maybe between $300,000 and $800,000) and a loss of a second or third round pick. Or maybe instead of the laughable fine, it could be a salary cap penalty of that much.

That sounds like a fair deal…but since Ginger makes it up as he goes along, he’ll probably ban Isray from the owners box for half a quarter and not let him have chicken wings at the stadium for a game.

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Mon, 01 Sep 2014 00:49:08 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3589961Holy cow Florio, stop comparing him to Josh
Gordon. Here’s what we know: They are both dirtbags. Both should be out of the NFL for a long, long time. Irsay’s fine should be huge, since he will make big money as an owner, and judge should direct that fine go to drug prevention/abuse. Gordon should be mandated for 4X per week in rehab. This isn’t that hard.
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Mon, 01 Sep 2014 00:35:08 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3589924All will be forgotten in Indy if the Colts can bring home another Super Bowl to Indy.
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Mon, 01 Sep 2014 00:05:22 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3589888drunkwino says:
Aug 31, 2014 7:37 PM

Can’t read bro? The very first paragraph of the NFL Code of Conduct states owners are part of it. That wasn’t an interpretation, that’s word for word quote. It doesn’t say owners are encouraged to behave, it says point blank owners are “required to avoid “conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in the National Football League.”

As amazing as it sounds, rich people aren’t above the rules. Isray, and every other owner in football, agreed to be governed by this rule in the same way players are.

Granted, nobody believes the NFL actually has the ethics to actually DO anything. Doesn’t change the fact that their subject to rules. If they don’t like it, nobody’s forcing them to own a team.

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I can read but you still haven’t told me what the specified punishment is. You keep circling back to “required to avoid”. I didn’t dispute that but that’s all you have.

If it is cut and dried, according to the language, what is his required specified punishment? For a player it is specified.

]]>By: bostonbadasshttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/31/irsays-plea-deal-puts-him-in-line-for-suspension/#comment-3589886
Mon, 01 Sep 2014 00:03:27 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3589886A NON MEDICATED DETOX IN A NICE FILTHY CELL WOULD BE JUST WHAT THE DOCTOR ORDERED…
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Sun, 31 Aug 2014 23:59:03 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3589880Colts should be fined draft picks. That’s the only way to hurt an owner.
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Sun, 31 Aug 2014 23:56:50 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3589876Lol … Really suspended from what?
What position does he play?
]]>By: wisconsinhillfolkhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/31/irsays-plea-deal-puts-him-in-line-for-suspension/#comment-3589875
Sun, 31 Aug 2014 23:56:35 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2278149#comment-3589875What is astounding is that there are those who truly believe and encourage the concept that the very wealthy should be exempt from the Rule of Law or even standards by which they are contractually bound.
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