I thought it was a wonderful episode. This must be the one Andrew Lincoln was referring to, as he had mentioned his favorite of the season was one that he wasn't in. Now this might have just been me, but the entire episode I was kind of on edge because I thought Gov was gonna go whacko and kill everyone for some reason or another.

All in all it reminded me fondly of Lost's "The Other 48 Days" or whatever it was called when they introduced the storyline from the Tailie's point of view. Only problem was it didn't end up with the Governor at the prison, though perhaps that will happen next week? I don't know if devoting two episodes to non-main characters is really the best idea, but I guess it depends on what happens.

Now this might have just been me, but the entire episode I was kind of on edge because I thought Gov was gonna go whacko and kill everyone for some reason or another.

I was feeling the same thing. It seemed like in almost every scene his brain was processing whether to kill everyone. If that tension was intended, it worked on me. I kept saying to myself, "don't kill them, don't kill them, don't kill them". But by the end I was kind of hoping/expecting that noncop would meet her demise.

I thought I was watching a video game in the beginning of the episode when he kept getting rpg quests. He was doing those because they all somehow tied back to the girl. I felt like I was watching an episode of Fallout for awhile.

Interesting conclusion to "The Other XX Days"/Governor side quest. Nice to see he is as whacked out as ever. The promo for next week was kind of disappointing in an exciting way.

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I love big battles but didn't they already do this last season? And now he wants to do this after killing two of his best fighters, really? Michonne could probably wipe out that entire group on her own. Heck, Carl probably could too. I mean seriously all they have is Alvarez from Oz and a couple of hot lesbians. Seems kinda silly.

Interesting conclusion to "The Other XX Days"/Governor side quest. Nice to see he is as whacked out as ever. The promo for next week was kind of disappointing in an exciting way.

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I love big battles but didn't they already do this last season? And now he wants to do this after killing two of his best fighters, really? Michonne could probably wipe out that entire group on her own. Heck, Carl probably could too. I mean seriously all they have is Alvarez from Oz and a couple of hot lesbians. Seems kinda silly.

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And a tank. Don't forget the tank.

I'm glad the digression is over because I thought they spent too much time introducing disposable characters just to build the Guv back up. I'll reconsider if any of those throwaway characters actually survive to become regulars.

Oh good, he's still a murdering psychopath. I thought the writers might be trying to redeem him.

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The scarlet A tags on those dead guys ended up serving as a reminder to him of who he is, rather than a warning to scare him down the path of goodness.

Round 2 of the Gov versus Rick & The Prison Gang for the mid-season finale. Let's close this story arch and move on.

Sorry, this is a pet peeve of mine. It's "story arc" - not a big deal, just one that gets me, for some reason.

I also am glad this Gov stuff is almost over. The only thing I liked about it was seeing the guy from Fringe and the dude from Dollhouse as brothers. That was exciting. I was looking forward to them getting out from under the Gov and joining the group.

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Honestly, I realize as I'm watching that my personal bias against the Gov is tainting everything I see him do, but that knowledge doesn't help when he's still aiming his goddamned gun through his eyepatch. That's beyond making a bad choice as an actor.

I like the picture from last season of the Gov actor actually scoping in with his patched eye. I have a hard time accepting that the actor doesn't know what he's doing. It's like he's trolling the audience on purpose. Could an actor really be that unaware of something like that?

I like the picture from last season of the Gov actor actually scoping in with his patched eye. I have a hard time accepting that the actor doesn't know what he's doing. It's like he's trolling the audience on purpose. Could an actor really be that unaware of something like that?

I dunno,because if that is how you shoot a gun and have done for sometime,instincts and force of habit may still have you holding the gun up to shoot

However....Okay,something for you to do at homepretend to hold a rifle up to your eye now as though looking down the scope,close one eye...now open it and close the other,you hardly need to move the 'rifle',same with if you pretend its a hand gun with arm outstretched-this for me is an absolute non issue

also, not 100% sure the governor is dead. They did not show the actual headshot. She might have flinched at the end.

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After being run clean through with a sword and left in a field of zombies, I think the only question is whether the Gov is going to be eaten or zombified, or if he was spared both of those fates. While it's true that we didn't see the coup de grace, I'll be very surprised if he comes back after that.

Speaking of not seeing the body, though, are we sure that Little Asskicker is dead? We saw a bloody carseat, but no actual baby bits (unless I missed that). It's possible that Weird Girl or some other child got the baby onto the bus.

also, not 100% sure the governor is dead. They did not show the actual headshot. She might have flinched at the end.

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After being run clean through with a sword and left in a field of zombies, I think the only question is whether the Gov is going to be eaten or zombified, or if he was spared both of those fates. While it's true that we didn't see the coup de grace, I'll be very surprised if he comes back after that.

Speaking of not seeing the body, though, are we sure that Little Asskicker is dead? We saw a bloody carseat, but no actual baby bits (unless I missed that). It's possible that Weird Girl or some other child got the baby onto the bus.

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In the Talking Dead after show, the governor was included in the "in memorium" segment which confirms he is dead.

also, not 100% sure the governor is dead. They did not show the actual headshot. She might have flinched at the end.

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After being run clean through with a sword and left in a field of zombies, I think the only question is whether the Gov is going to be eaten or zombified, or if he was spared both of those fates. While it's true that we didn't see the coup de grace, I'll be very surprised if he comes back after that.

Speaking of not seeing the body, though, are we sure that Little Asskicker is dead? We saw a bloody carseat, but no actual baby bits (unless I missed that). It's possible that Weird Girl or some other child got the baby onto the bus.

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In the Talking Dead after show, the governor was included in the "in memorium" segment which confirms he is dead.

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I don't know if that really confirms it though. I am pretty sure the Talking Dead guys don't really have a lot of inside info, so they could be basing in memorium only on what they see on the show. That being said, I do admit it is a long shot for the Gov, but stranger things have happened on TV

also, not 100% sure the governor is dead. They did not show the actual headshot. She might have flinched at the end.

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After being run clean through with a sword and left in a field of zombies, I think the only question is whether the Gov is going to be eaten or zombified, or if he was spared both of those fates. While it's true that we didn't see the coup de grace, I'll be very surprised if he comes back after that.

Speaking of not seeing the body, though, are we sure that Little Asskicker is dead? We saw a bloody carseat, but no actual baby bits (unless I missed that). It's possible that Weird Girl or some other child got the baby onto the bus.

Good episode and a nice wrap up to the season and several plot lines, while laying the ground for some more.

Very sad if slightly predictable moments, as Ironrod says.

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Once they got to the prison, it was pretty clear that someone was going to die, and Hershel seemed the most likely candidate, sadly (I would have put Tyreese at #2). Didn't see the baby moment coming, though. Riggs did a really nice job with that. I agree that there's a good chance ass-kicker got picked up, though. Hershel's child of the damned was off the bus to find kids. Shortly after that, the bus left. I bet the baby is on the bus.

I was a little worried that the bit with Carol's KidzTM was going to stray into parable territory, but it just danced around the edges. If that's setting up something bigger, it could be cool. I like your idea, CeeKay. If it becomes a Message, then it's not. This show usually pointedly tries to avoid that, for the better.

I think Carol will have hooked up with Fistbump Noncop by the time the second half starts, and then will come upon a splinter group.

Surely, though, they have a meeting place ready to go, so I don't know how long they'll be apart.

Good episode and a nice wrap up to the season and several plot lines, while laying the ground for some more.

Very sad if slightly predictable moments, as Ironrod says.

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Hershel's child of the damned was off the bus to find kids. Shortly after that, the bus left. I bet the baby is on the bus.

about the bus

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I imagine she could have gotten Judith to Glenn, and that may be why the bus took off. Beth (I am assuming this is who you mean by Child of the Damned) was last seen running off with Daryl. I'm torn on the baby; in a way I wish they had stuck to the comics with her but I am not sure I can put up with another half season or more of whiny Rick.

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That was one crazy episode. I both loved and hated it. Loved because there was so much excitement, drama and crazy cool action. Hated because there were so many inane contrived moments that just made no sense. Not that it made me not enjoy the show, it just gets a little frustrating. I also got a bit screwed as a friend revealed one of the key deaths over a text message, grrr. I mean seriously, spoiler alert!!!!

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Nooo!! Herschel!! Actually I thought he was going to die a couple episodes back. He really lasted a lot longer than I thought he would but really grew on me over time.

Loved it:

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Crazy Carol Girls, yeah baby!!!! No lesbians in our house!!!

Bye Bye Prison, woohoo!!!

Hated it:

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- No Crazy Carl shot, was really hoping he'd get the drop on the Governor.

- Stupid bad guys, seriously the whole attack seemed stupid and ill-planned, and how is it the whole group suddenly turns into a bunch of psycho war-mongers after one lousy speech? And why did they leave the one chick behind all alone? And why wasn't she watching her daughter closely after she'd already almost got bitten multiple times? Sigh.

- Michonne rolling her way around a dozen bad guys just seemed a bit comical. Really the gov didn't notice his biggest enemy just rolling all over?!?!

- I don't know why our team didn't just go in and hide deep in the prison like they did when they set their trap the first time. Sure the Gov was familiar with the trick but what was his play? If he used the tank to keep blowing everything up, there'd be nothing to save. The plan just seemed screwy all around.

Wondering:

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- Were they hinting that maybe Crazy Girl was the actual killer of the two people as opposed to Carol herself? Could she have been covering? Maybe I just misread that whole thing. We never did find out who was feeding the rats to the zombies, did we?

- I heard producers wanted to eliminate the baby, but given that we didn't actually see it happen, maybe she's still alive?

- Were they hinting that maybe Crazy Girl was the actual killer of the two people as opposed to Carol herself? Could she have been covering? Maybe I just misread that whole thing. We never did find out who was feeding the rats to the zombies, did we?

- I heard producers wanted to eliminate the baby, but given that we didn't actually see it happen, maybe she's still alive?

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I wonder if they would actually show the death, or if they would just skip to the aftermath like they did.

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sad to see Hershel go like that. that's twice now that the old and wisened leader has died, but by far the worse of the two. really pissed that the governor went and did what he did. I figured that one of them would die, but up until he put the katana under his neck, I thought he'd have picked Michonne. I guess he still expected Rick to give up. It worked out though as leaving Michonne alive was his undoing. good that she kept her promise and was the one to finish off the gov.

I think that the baby lived, and that Carol's girls picked her up before they fled. I think Carol was close by and watching the prison and helped the girls escape. Michonne will likely rejoin with Tyreese, Sasha, Maggie and the Vet. I think Rick and Carl will wander alone for a while and eventually meet up with one of the other splinter groups.

suppose we'll see Lily as a zed next episode, or zed bait after killing herself.

sad to see Hershel go like that. that's twice now that the old and wisened leader has died, but by far the worse of the two. really pissed that the governor went and did what he did. I figured that one of them would die, but up until he put the katana under his neck, I thought he'd have picked Michonne. I guess he still expected Rick to give up. It worked out though as leaving Michonne alive was his undoing. good that she kept her promise and was the one to finish off the gov.

I think that the baby lived, and that Carol's girls picked her up before they fled. I think Carol was close by and watching the prison and helped the girls escape. Michonne will likely rejoin with Tyreese, Sasha, Maggie and the Vet. I think Rick and Carl will wander alone for a while and eventually meet up with one of the other splinter groups.

suppose we'll see Lily as a zed next episode, or zed bait after killing herself.

maybe

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Lily will blame the group for the death and track them down for revenge. she could become... the Governess!

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I think that was the finest episode of TWD yet. Finally we are getting to what I want! I want real threats, real consequences to the character's actions, I want more than endless supply runs. I realize that it's a long running series and there has to be a lot of filler and fan service but wow. That episode really put the fucking apocalypse into zombie-apocalypse. Well done. Bravo. Must watch again.