Why would an all loving god create dangerous animals/insects?

Why would an omnibenevolent god create scorpions, , great white sharks, black widows, bullet ants etc etc. If humans are the most important beings in the world, and animals don't go to "heaven", why on earth would an all loving "father" create creatures that really don't do anything other than negative things to humans? Does he get off on this? Did he not have control over evolution? I don't get it. I mean Asian Giant Hornets are 2" long and have venom that has the ability to dissolve human tissue. WTF??? I mean, really, is that necessary?

To me, the types of species we see in the world completely makes sense in light of the theory of evolution. These species don't make sense if there is some all knowing, all loving creator out there.

"If the data is overwhelmingly in favor of evolution, to deny that reality will make us a cult -- some odd group that is not really interacting with the world"- Evangelical Bible scholar Bruce Waltke

Why would an omnibenevolent god create scorpions, , great white sharks, black widows, bullet ants etc etc. If humans are the most important beings in the world, and animals don't go to "heaven", why on earth would an all loving "father" create creatures that really don't do anything other than negative things to humans? Does he get off on this? Did he not have control over evolution? I don't get it. I mean Asian Giant Hornets are 2" long and have venom that has the ability to dissolve human tissue. WTF??? I mean, really, is that necessary?

To me, the types of species we see in the world completely makes sense in light of the theory of evolution. These species don't make sense if there is some all knowing, all loving creator out there.

Before I bother answering, are you asking a real question or trying to start a fight? No lying either.

A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.

"Out of damp and gloomy days, out of solitude, out of loveless words directed at us, conclusions grow up in us like fungus: one morning they are there, we know not how, and they gaze upon us, morose and gray. Woe to the thinker who is not the gardener but only the soil of the plants that grow in him."
-Nietzsche

Evidently humans don't know what Satan has in store for us...So in this ingenious plan Satan is trying to cause as much pain possible. He's mysterious, he's evil. he's a ****ing lunatic!!! Repent now or forever be damned!!

Why would an omnibenevolent god create scorpions, , great white sharks, black widows, bullet ants etc etc. If humans are the most important beings in the world, and animals don't go to "heaven", why on earth would an all loving "father" create creatures that really don't do anything other than negative things to humans? Does he get off on this? Did he not have control over evolution? I don't get it. I mean Asian Giant Hornets are 2" long and have venom that has the ability to dissolve human tissue. WTF??? I mean, really, is that necessary?

To me, the types of species we see in the world completely makes sense in light of the theory of evolution. These species don't make sense if there is some all knowing, all loving creator out there.

I guess it means he is either omnipotent but not benevolent, benevolent but not omnipotent, or omnipotent and benevolent, but not omniscient.

Why would an omnibenevolent god create scorpions, , great white sharks, black widows, bullet ants etc etc. If humans are the most important beings in the world, and animals don't go to "heaven", why on earth would an all loving "father" create creatures that really don't do anything other than negative things to humans? Does he get off on this? Did he not have control over evolution? I don't get it. I mean Asian Giant Hornets are 2" long and have venom that has the ability to dissolve human tissue. WTF??? I mean, really, is that necessary?

To me, the types of species we see in the world completely makes sense in light of the theory of evolution. These species don't make sense if there is some all knowing, all loving creator out there.

Apparently "God" is a pretty smart fellow, I'm sure he could figure out something else to do other than creating a creature that if I go too far out in the ocean will rip me to shreds and swallow me whole...

"If the data is overwhelmingly in favor of evolution, to deny that reality will make us a cult -- some odd group that is not really interacting with the world"- Evangelical Bible scholar Bruce Waltke

You as a man of science would already know that science is only in its baby steps and there are many many many gaps and much knowledge that needs to be uncovered.

But I consider my self religious and try to act in a religious way in real life, I tend to believe that everything is created for a reason and everything happens for a reason.

I used to think in my younger years, Why did God create ants? they are so small and insignificant. But now I realize that these small insects have value in this life. That goes to everything and all of Gods creations.

You as a man of science would already know that science is only in its baby steps and there are many many many gaps and much knowledge that needs to be uncovered.

But I consider my self religious and try to act in a religious way in real life, I tend to believe that everything is created for a reason and everything happens for a reason.

I used to think in my younger years, Why did God create ants? they are so small and insignificant. But now I realize that these small insects have value in this life. That goes to everything and all of Gods creations.

Thanks for your comments. Now if you aren't going to add anything of value to the thread I'd suggest not posting. Thanks.

"If the data is overwhelmingly in favor of evolution, to deny that reality will make us a cult -- some odd group that is not really interacting with the world"- Evangelical Bible scholar Bruce Waltke

No I explicitly stated that these insects and animals existing IN LIGHT OF EVOLUTION make sense to me. It doesn't make sense if there is an all loving god who places human life above all others.

This is just an atheist "no God of the gaps" premise. Just because you don't understand why God does something doesn't mean there isn't a valid reason. Personally, I think God let's nature's laws work, and things evolved to where they are today. Bugs will be bugs.

A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.

"Out of damp and gloomy days, out of solitude, out of loveless words directed at us, conclusions grow up in us like fungus: one morning they are there, we know not how, and they gaze upon us, morose and gray. Woe to the thinker who is not the gardener but only the soil of the plants that grow in him."
-Nietzsche

This is just an atheist "no God of the gaps" premise. Just because you don't understand why God does something doesn't mean there isn't a valid reason. Personally, I think God let's nature's laws work, and things evolved to where they are today. Bugs will be bugs.

And I'm asking WHY! Did you miss that part? It seems like a fairly simple topic. "Bugs will be bugs"? Again, why would he want us to suffer and get hurt by these animals, or possibly killed? What is the value? There is no other explanation in my eyes other than...god doesn't exist...or god is entertained by seeing his crazy creations hurt humans. Im giving you an opportunity to explain logically why.

"If the data is overwhelmingly in favor of evolution, to deny that reality will make us a cult -- some odd group that is not really interacting with the world"- Evangelical Bible scholar Bruce Waltke

God created life, and lets nature run its course. EVERYTHING dies, and dying is not a bad thing, it's a part of life. You look at death as the end, but in reality it is not. So, to you death is this vastly important occurrence that ceases your existence and that God allows it to happen is some vast evil to you, but to God it's just another part of our existence. God lets nature run its course (including the bugs, which evolve into crazy scary super bugs every now and then), and when we die we move on to the next step of our existence. That's not very well written, I know. I'm playing with my kids while I write this, lol.

A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.

"Out of damp and gloomy days, out of solitude, out of loveless words directed at us, conclusions grow up in us like fungus: one morning they are there, we know not how, and they gaze upon us, morose and gray. Woe to the thinker who is not the gardener but only the soil of the plants that grow in him."
-Nietzsche

God created life, and lets nature run its course. EVERYTHING dies, and dying is not a bad thing, it's a part of life. You look at death as the end, but in reality it is not. So, to you death is this vastly important occurrence that ceases your existence and that God allows it to happen is some vast evil to you, but to God it's just another part of our existence. God lets nature run its course (including the bugs, which evolve into crazy scary super bugs every now and then), and when we die we move on to the next step of our existence. That's not very well written, I know. I'm playing with my kids while I write this, lol.

Again "god lets nature run its course" implies that God had no control or knowledge about what was going to happen. So just as Jean-Paul said...

Either god is omniscient but not omnipotent...he is omnipotent, but not omnibenevolent. Or... he doesn't exist.

"If the data is overwhelmingly in favor of evolution, to deny that reality will make us a cult -- some odd group that is not really interacting with the world"- Evangelical Bible scholar Bruce Waltke

And I'm asking WHY! Did you miss that part? It seems like a fairly simple topic. "Bugs will be bugs"? Again, why would he want us to suffer and get hurt by these animals, or possibly killed? What is the value? There is no other explanation in my eyes other than...god doesn't exist...or god is entertained by seeing his crazy creations hurt humans. Im giving you an opportunity to explain logically why.

Maybe the shark in the ocean does not do you any good. Actually this shark will probably eat you alive.

But I am sure that this same shark that will kill you serves a lot to preserve ocean life and a balance in the sea.

Im not an expert in this but this applies to the rest of these "dangerous creatures."

Mufasa in the Lion King explains it well in his circle of life theory that he was explaining to Simba. Where the lion eats the gazelle, the gazelle leftovers become soil fertilizer, grass grows to feed more gazelles etc etc.

God created life, and lets nature run its course. EVERYTHING dies, and dying is not a bad thing, it's a part of life. You look at death as the end, but in reality it is not. So, to you death is this vastly important occurrence that ceases your existence and that God allows it to happen is some vast evil to you, but to God it's just another part of our existence. God lets nature run its course (including the bugs, which evolve into crazy scary super bugs every now and then), and when we die we move on to the next step of our existence. That's not very well written, I know. I'm playing with my kids while I write this, lol.

Again "god lets nature run its course" implies that God had no control or knowledge about what was going to happen. So just as Jean-Paul said...

Either god is omniscient but not omnipotent...he is omnipotent, but not omnibenevolent. Or... he doesn't exist.

It doesn't mean that at all. If God sets the rules, creates the system, and then lets the system run its course how would that imply any such thing?

Originally Posted by MoGeaYuglay

but what about PAIN and SUFFERING???

What about them?

A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.

"Out of damp and gloomy days, out of solitude, out of loveless words directed at us, conclusions grow up in us like fungus: one morning they are there, we know not how, and they gaze upon us, morose and gray. Woe to the thinker who is not the gardener but only the soil of the plants that grow in him."
-Nietzsche

EXACTLY! So why did he set the "rules" that would allow these creatures that all they do is hurt us exist!! It makes ZERO sense unless we blame natural selection WITHOUT a god.

We're back to the "no God of the gaps" argument again. You don't understand God's intent, so He can't exist, which is a logical fallacy.

I don't claim to understand all of God's purposes either, but in this case I kind of assume it's something along the lines of letting children do things that you know may hurt them, because it's part of growing up. A large portion of our purpose in being here is to learn. Life experience, pain, suffering, all have the potential to teach us.

A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.

"Out of damp and gloomy days, out of solitude, out of loveless words directed at us, conclusions grow up in us like fungus: one morning they are there, we know not how, and they gaze upon us, morose and gray. Woe to the thinker who is not the gardener but only the soil of the plants that grow in him."
-Nietzsche