Yeah but some people just take it way too far. Guys with teams that exist of a maximum age of 25 (give or take) in their squad but why? it's so called building for the future as you call it but the players you build up for the future never get to actually become your future because you always offload them when they exceed a certain age. It's daft

The game clearly says that players can easily play at the very top of their abilitys until they reach late 30s early 40s. So the players currently in their late 20s and early 30s have just as much right as the teenagers and players in their early 20s to be labled the future of your club. Are you getting the logic here?

And lets be honest how many seasons do you really get through in a Pro game before the next Pro is released 3 or 4 seasons at the most? The players you have now will be the exact same (no better, no worse) in that time peroid so why all the panic of worrying about the future?

In real life i could expect maybe another 2 or 3 seasons at the most out of Downing and Defoe before they start to decline. But in Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 they can perform at their peak for another 7 or 8 seasons before begining to decline and that 7 or 8 seasons is way more than I'm ever gonna play through with Liverpool so there is absolutely no need to replace them with younger models and build for the future because they still are the future. The same logic applies for everyone who plays ML

PES is a simulation game, based on real life. People try and be like real managers and instead of going for 30 year olds who will only last so many years, they go for youngsters who they can develop and will be on a lower wage. There are only a few older players I would play over youngsters. Casillas being the prime example. I'd love to develop Adan more but I don't see that happening. Xabi Alonso is another. Then there are players like Carvalho who tactically is sound in defence but with Varane in the squad, Carvalho has no chance playing for me unless form/injury force me to choose him.

the second a player shows signs of decline, they're out the door, whether it is PES or FM. unless I have a real affinity for the player or they can still play at the very highest level for another 5 years. or if their replacement in team.

the second a player shows signs of decline, they're out the door, whether it is PES or FM. unless I have a real affinity for the player or they can still play at the very highest level for another 5 years. or if their replacement in team.

I agree and have the exact same policy, decliners are immediatly offloaded. but the majority of players on this game don't begin to decline until they are approaching 40. which means you can basically buy and use any player you want for your whole ML game and not worry at all about age unless you play like 10 seasons straight with the same team which nobody really does.

So in a nut shell there is no logical explanation for buying/selling, using/benching players strictly because of their age

I'm in my 2nd season of ML with Atalanta already. So sorry but no, I can't use any player I want to for the whole of my ML. If I bought someone like Pirlo, it would be a waste of money when I can get a younger player that will last a lot longer and in the long term, be more useful. Pirlo would only be a short term fix for us.

So logically, having a long term plan would include youth players, no?

Depends what you mean by long term. Most people get through an average of 5 or less seasons before getting bored and starting a fresh ML with a different side or playing a different game altogether instead of Pro or the next Pro game comes out and they buy that.

Pirlo will be at his peak for another 4 or 5 seasons if you decided to buy him so technically and truthfully is your current ML save gonna be played for over 5 seasons? if so then yes should buy a slightly younger player but any 30 year old would do fine just as fine as a younger player.

You should buy players based on who you personally like, stats wise and stuff like that not just age. I would splash out big money on a player aged 30 because he will play at his peak for my whole ML with that particular team

But anyway, I get where you're coming from but I don't find enjoyment from buying already proven players. I much prefer getting a player for like 1m and then develop him to be one of the best in the world.

To say the way we want to play the game is "illogical" is pretty stupid in my opinion. I could say that you just buying British players isn't logical because there are better foreign players in the game you could get for less money.

Anyone who plays 40 seasons without simming a single match on their ML is not be messed with hahaha. The most I've ever done is 3 and a half

And it is illogical because you all say build for the future blah blah blah but you never stick with that save long enough to witness that future you've built so you spend your entire ML lives needlessly building and never reeping the benefits. Wheres the logic in that?

I have only bought 2 British players Crouch and Whitehead and they were both cheap. Under £5m infact so hows that illogical?

Oh and Defoe of course but i bought him because i prefer him to Borini

Anyone who plays 40 seasons without simming a single match on their ML is not be messed with hahaha. The most I've ever done is 3 and a half

And it is illogical because you all say build for the future blah blah blah but you never stick with that save long enough to witness that future you've built so you spend your entire ML lives needlessly building and never reeping the benefits. Wheres the logic in that?

I have only bought 2 British players Crouch and Whitehead and they were both cheap. Under £5m infact so hows that illogical?

The young players physical stats are much better compared to the older players. And their technical ability will only increase. If they play well, it will only be a few seasons before they grow into world beaters.

It's illogical because you could have bought younger, better players who cost around the same.

I don't know why you're bothering. Nothing you say has even slightly tempted me to go for older players.

I'm not saying go out and buy old players am i? What i said was theres no need for everyone to go so overboard and flog all their players after they exceed a certain age as if they instantly catch a fatal life threatening disease on their 29th Birthday (lol it makes me laugh) Why have a squad thay consists only of players in their early 20s?

It means you miss out on 3/4 of the players on the game because you worry so much about age which means absolutely nothing unless they are approaching 40. What do you mean by physical stats? Like Top speed, explosive power, body balance? Thats aload of bullshit mate. players either have good physical stats or they don't, it's regardless of their age. How can that be true if players don't begin to decline until late 30s early 40s?

So what your tryna say is players get their peak in physical stats in their mid 20s but then it instantly drops in their late 20s and continues to decrease for the next 10-15 years of their career? Wow