It seems that the defender and the folding stock are out of stock on that website but they do have the marushin m500 in stock what do you think of those?

Well it sounds like he may have entirely destroyed the chamber on his M870, good luck on that one. Those are not easy to find anywhere, he'd basically have to buy another one as a parts gun.
However, he could buy one of Schaap's custom shell lifters to fix up his M1100. His extractor is probably worn, but with o-rings and the new lifter, it should be just fine.
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[QUOTE=Caboozer;34620083]It seems that the defender and the folding stock are out of stock on that website but they do have the marushin m500 in stock what do you think of those?[/QUOTE]
Defender I is gone everywhere, Defender II is in stock. [url]http://www.dentrinityshop.com/pr_list.jsp?cid=SHG&bid=MAR[/url]
The original Maruzen folding stock is gone everywhere. You'd need to buy a real steel ATI folding stock for it, and mod it onto the Maruzen pistol grip. However, you don't really need the stock at all, there is zero recoil and its a spread based weapon where aiming and accuracy doesn't apply.
I don't have an interest in the Marushin shotguns at all.
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Oh actually Floater, its possible that some lube/grease on the sliding tubes may fix the M870, and it might be possible to replace the o-rings in there. I've had no issues with my gas mechanism besides the gas line itself, so I try to leave it alone as much as possible.

Is there any way to get full size with a pistol grip? I don't really fancy the short barrel or small mag capacity.

If either of you guys need it, I do know of one store that does stock the extractor/shell door. I will not post it until someone needs it though, and only through PMs, I need to have a stock of these available for testing purposes.
I bought 2 already, so I'm comfortable with giving the site to another person or two who may need them.
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[QUOTE=Caboozer;34620366]Is there any way to get full size with a pistol grip? I don't really fancy the short barrel or small mag capacity.[/QUOTE]
No. that's been impossible for many years.
Only other way is to buy parts separately. I do know you can get a metal outer barrel in the full size, but the mag tube extension is very tough to find. Try to find a broken full size M1100/M870 that you can use for parts. There is a supreme amount of parts compatibility between the two. I can tell you off the top of my head just about any similar parts between the two.

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Basically, the way the whole deal works is that Maruzen made 2 kinds of outer barrels and two sizes of mag tubes. Short and medium. Then for the full size stuff they made a barrel extension that just pops into the main outer barrel and a mag tube extension that screws onto the end of the mag tube. Regardless of outer barrels, all M870's use the same inner barrel, and all M1100's use the same inner barrel. Both barrels are different, but are the same length and inner dimension.
I can take pictures later in the evening to show you in better detail.
If you can fashion a proper mag tube spring, you can use any magazine tube size you want, and outer barrels are all swappable.
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Also important, you can get a full size M1100 with the long barrel/mag tube if you want. Full stock M1100 has far more power than the full stock M870, due to differences in the design.
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Oh and for the record, a lot of externals made for the CA870 by G&P and the like will fit the M870, and some will fit the M1100 too. Ask me first, but you can throw a lot of those things on there.

so just get the gun and dont get the power upgrade?

Yeah, the power upgrade is totally unneeded for M1100's.
The pistol grip will boost power on both M1100's and M870's, but its not that important for M1100's either.
I could sling out full load shells with a full stock M1100 on green gas without issue, you just have to do everything in your power to keep it running.
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Oh yeah should I buy this when I have cash?:
[IMG]http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/kieren1984/IMG_2643.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=notrabies;34620692]Yeah, the power upgrade is totally unneeded for M1100's.
The pistol grip will boost power on both M1100's and M870's, but its not that important for M1100's either.
I could sling out full load shells with a full stock M1100 on green gas without issue, you just have to do everything in your power to keep it running.
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Oh yeah should I buy this when I have cash?:
[IMG]http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/kieren1984/IMG_2643.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I would say no, but it's your choice.

I think you should go for a muzzle break that is the same diameter as the barrel

that's a break for door breaching :3

Yeah, its a custom one off being sold for 40 pounds. I'm asking if it'll fit on Maruzen shotguns to begin with, as I think it looks fairly menacing.
I'd buy one that's the same size as the outer if they existed.

oh shit that's cheap. get it get it getit

No $$$ at the moment, I may later. Apparently its designed and was used on a real steel M870.

yeah, that way if you get a real 870 (they're pretty cheap) you can move it over. :3

I'm going crazy over further pimping me and my M4.
Silver barrel aside, how about these to further increase the epic of my gun/loadout?
[URL="http://www.ebairsoft.com/afghan-pakol-military-wool-camel-p-2866.html"]http://www.ebairsoft.com/afghan-pakol-military-wool-camel-p-2866.html[/URL]
[URL="http://www.ebairsoft.com/dboys-silencer-p-4515.html"]http://www.ebairsoft.com/dboys-silencer-p-4515.html[/URL]
[URL="http://www.ebairsoft.com/iron-airsoft-style-inconnel-flash-hider-black-p-3341.html"]http://www.ebairsoft.com/iron-airsoft-style-inconnel-flash-hider-black-p-3341.html[/URL]
Any other recommendations for what to throw on myself/gun are also welcome.

hey notraibies, always wondered but how do you skirmish with yuor shotties when shells go flying everywhere?
or do you use a brasscatcher?

doesnt seem like much of a problem if you're playing CQB games that don't last very long

Yeah, I only use them indoors. I plan on using them outdoors and stuff once it gets warmer, but I'll have to wait and see. I'll probably buy or create my own brasscatcher then.
As for now, I work by a rule that real soldiers use, you only shoot while stationary.
With a real rifle, even the slight movements from a controlled walk play hell with your accuracy at long range, but for my purposes, I just move and stop when I shoot to keep the shells in contained areas.
Also, team members and staff are more than happy to pick up shells for me while I hold down a corner. Lastly, I scan the area I'm in when I get shot to check for any shells, its not fun walking into an enemy guarded area to pick them up, people like to shoot you to be sure.
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Someone should loan me a helmetcam so I can film how its done. There's basically 0 cam footage of these in action.

[QUOTE=Psycoace2;34627191]What's a cheap, preferably OD chest rig? Integrated mag pouches are a plus, as I'd carry 8-9 mags, and gear website links would be awesome.[/QUOTE]
What type of mags are you carrying?

STANAG, sorry.

My maruzen Mac 11 is pretty much fucked and i have no idea where to start trying to figure out how to restore it to some state of functionality, besides maybe changing the seals and stuff. If i remember correctly it has a hard time holding gas in the mags and has trouble firing, but i'd have to try it out to find out fully.
It's 1am here so i'm not going to try it out right now, but any suggestions on what else i could try to improve it's functionality in general?
Also, where could i get cheaper, modern magazines compatible with it? I found somewhere selling original Maruzen magazines, but they're 40 pounds a peice.
Double also, where the could i find a new stock/front sight? I got this off my oldest brother long ago and it's never had a front sight in all the time i've owned it, or a stock.

This thing is probably worthless in its current state so it'd likely be cheaper to fix it.
Plus, i don't really want an SMG too badly, so it's more of a case of 'it'd be cool to fix this' than 'i wish i had an smg to use for ~smooth cqb combat~'
Might end up carrying it as a third backup gun.

[QUOTE=FloaterTWO;34627491]My maruzen Mac 11 is pretty much fucked and i have no idea where to start trying to figure out how to restore it to some state of functionality, besides maybe changing the seals and stuff. If i remember correctly it has a hard time holding gas in the mags and has trouble firing, but i'd have to try it out to find out fully.
It's 1am here so i'm not going to try it out right now, but any suggestions on what else i could try to improve it's functionality in general?
Also, where could i get cheaper, modern magazines compatible with it? I found somewhere selling original Maruzen magazines, but they're 40 pounds a peice.[/QUOTE]
P. much all gas SMG mags are gonna be in the $40 range. But you should go over all the seals just on principle and then check the loading nozzle and bolt assembly.
You might have to shim the routers on the tops of the mags if the loading nozzle is worn where the gas is routed into the nozzle

[QUOTE=Psycoace2;34627191]What's a cheap, preferably OD chest rig? Integrated mag pouches are a plus, as I'd carry 8-9 mags, and gear website links would be awesome.[/QUOTE]
Not exactly a chest rig, but I have this and I love it: [url]http://www.airsoftgi.com/mobile/product_info.php?products_id=4634[/url]

[QUOTE=Jenkem;34622104]I'm going crazy over further pimping me and my M4.
Silver barrel aside, how about these to further increase the epic of my gun/loadout?
[URL="http://www.ebairsoft.com/afghan-pakol-military-wool-camel-p-2866.html"]http://www.ebairsoft.com/afghan-pakol-military-wool-camel-p-2866.html[/URL]
[URL="http://www.ebairsoft.com/dboys-silencer-p-4515.html"]http://www.ebairsoft.com/dboys-silencer-p-4515.html[/URL]
[URL="http://www.ebairsoft.com/iron-airsoft-style-inconnel-flash-hider-black-p-3341.html"]http://www.ebairsoft.com/iron-airsoft-style-inconnel-flash-hider-black-p-3341.html[/URL]
Any other recommendations for what to throw on myself/gun are also welcome.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/s1qjY.jpg[/img]

The only thing in that list that isn't already being used in some form is the silencer, which is a simple thing to deal with if it becomes encumbering (quick detach is my friend). I run pretty light, weight isn't a huge concern.