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Where are the larger turbos? All I see is a modification from Garret to the existing turbos!
I need to pay 11k for this? Sorry, but no thank you. Renntech always love to inflate thier numbers using STD correction. Personally, I think it's pathetic. That automatically corresponds to 671whp SAE.

Weistec are are the real deal when it comes to a true turbo upgrade as far as I have seen.

Look carefully to the 691 pull against the 725 pull. How is it that the 691 produced more torque than the 725. When you produce more power, you produce less torque on the same exact engine?

Total BS

Portman, those are 2 different cars. 691whp it's a 2012 CL63pp & 725whp it's from a 2012 CLS63 non-PP w/our new RT Airbox. Both are running the same RT turbo upgrade & 93octane. In the end customer can confirm those power figures. BTW, we can control the TORQUE curve in the DME anyway we want & how it's delivered per gear.

A total FLUFF it's when you see 1 dyno queen number USING RACE GAS or Magic potion run without any benchmark results at the track. Where's your favorite AMG tuner dyno numbers & their consistent runs results? Perhaps you can name them too.

Check out this run in a very positive Middle East DA since you have missed it :
Now that car in Florida will sulrey tap a lower ET in the US. Now how is it that your "833" HP CLS is only 0.2 seconds away from this 740HP CLS?
Moscow Unlim 500+

Streer race against an SLS with Longtubes

Those my dear are all results and proof that they will be ready to run you anytime without any problems.

Nice run for PP-Performance! But, he's running on front skinnies & trapping 212kmh (133mph)??? I hope that was without PP-P turbo upgrades! Since he's not even breaking axles!

We are trapping 136-7mph (217.6-219.2kmh)on full weight, pump gas & stock front tires with rear slicks. Also, not the best 1/4 mile run we had yet since you can tell by the AMG63 biturbo 1/4 mile record had a bad 60' times. Otherwise, RT would have done a low 10.2'@137mph with this 833hp.

Nice run for PP-Performance! But, he's running on front skinnies & trapping 212kmh (133mph)??? I hope that was without PP-P turbo upgrades! Since he's not even breaking axles!

We are trapping 136-7mph (217.6-219.2kmh)on full weight, pump gas & stock front tires with rear slicks. Also, not the best 1/4 mile run we had yet since you can tell by the current record 1/4 mile with bad 60' times. Other wise, as RT done before low 10.2'@137mph with this 833hp.

And that CLS from PPP did not have upgraded turbos like you do. Here they are in the photos below. They certainly arent much bigger than the stock ones and dont give you 100HP more. Plus they certainly dont cost 12K

And that CLS from PPP did not have upgraded turbos like you do. Here they are in the photos below. They certainly arent much bigger than the stock ones and dont give you 100HP more. Plus they certainly dont cost 12K

have fun posting dynosheets in STD correction and poking at tuners like Weistec and PPP. lol

Well, dyno numbers are just that "numbers". What we care about it's DELTA gains on dyno & actual results. Upgrading turbo compressor blades only & gold coating CHRA stock housing.... IMHO, it's a waist of time & certainly does not cost 12k per your picture shown! Maybe, should sell this to AMG as well for a magical gold stock CHRA.

The day they can show me otherwise, big props to them. Oh also note, your dynoed MAHA dyno measured flywheel 736.1ps (metric Hp) it's 719.86bhp...so in reality you don't have a true PP-P Stage3 AMG63 biturbo with 740Bhp rather 720bhp at engine. Thanks for your dyno.

Where are the larger turbos? All I see is a modification from Garret to the existing turbos!
I need to pay 11k for this? Sorry, but no thank you. Renntech always love to inflate thier numbers using STD correction. Personally, I think it's pathetic. That automatically corresponds to 671whp SAE.

Weistec are are the real deal when it comes to a true turbo upgrade as far as I have seen.

You jump all over people pointlessly without having all the info.

Whenever Renntech sends me dynos, they send SAE, STD, and even uncorrected. No other tuner sends me as many runs. Go do a search and take a look if you like.

Secondly, everyone is modifying the stock housings at the moment. This is just the beginning. Over 700 whp on pump gas isn't impressive to you? Calling it pathetic? Um ok, whatever you say.

Portman, those are 2 different cars. 691whp it's a 2012 CL63pp & 725whp it's from a 2012 CLS63 non-PP w/our new RT Airbox. Both are running the same RT turbo upgrade & 93octane. In the end customer can confirm those power figures. BTW, we can control the TORQUE curve in the DME anyway we want & how it's delivered per gear.

A total FLUFF it's when you see 1 dyno queen number USING RACE GAS or Magic potion run without any benchmark results at the track. Where's your favorite AMG tuner dyno numbers & their consistent runs results? Perhaps you can name them too.

You were a lot nicer explaining it than I would have been after how he pointlessly just put you down.

It's becoming apparent he offers little value as a member here.

And yes, Renntech backs things up on the track frequently and practically instantly.

And that CLS from PPP did not have upgraded turbos like you do. Here they are in the photos below. They certainly arent much bigger than the stock ones and dont give you 100HP more. Plus they certainly dont cost 12K

The day they can show me otherwise, big props to them. Oh also note, your dynoed MAHA dyno measured flywheel 736.1ps (metric Hp) it's 719.86bhp...so in reality you don't have a true PP-P Stage3 AMG63 biturbo with 740Bhp rather 720bhp at engine. Thanks for your dyno.

A little misleading to call it a package when it seems like it is just the turbos, no? What is the cost for everything needed to make those numbers consistently which I imagine would include downpipes, intercooler, tune, etc?

Well, dyno numbers are just that "numbers". What we care about it's DELTA gains on dyno & actual results. Upgrading turbo compressor blades only & gold coating CHRA stock housing.... IMHO, it's a waist of time & certainly does not cost 12k per your picture shown! Maybe, should sell this to AMG as well for a magical gold stock CHRA..

Like I said, they arent really larger turbos. They were created to handle the power and heat dissapation. The car is basically a Tune + Exhust powered car, and it still tapped 10.8

Originally Posted by m54b25

The day they can show me otherwise, big props to them. Oh also note, your dynoed MAHA dyno measured flywheel 736.1ps (metric Hp) it's 719.86bhp...so in reality you don't have a true PP-P Stage3 AMG63 biturbo with 740Bhp rather 720bhp at engine. Thanks for your dyno.

Propabley. I wont disagree with you there, but can you explain how this "720hp" car is only 0.2 seconds away from your claimed "833hp" car which ran in a better condition in the USA

Oh, and we are coming out with larger turbos from a very well know Euro compnay, be patent and i'll make a thread soon!

Look Mark,
Not trying to cause a beef with you. Renntech are record holders and they currently have the fastes M157 on record. I dont like how you are poking at Weistec and PP-P. That is not proffesional. In addition,I dont think the 833hp rating is correct. thats all. Your turbos look good congrats. I hope you achieve better ET's in the near future

Amigos cant we just get along here, we are comparing cars from DIFFERENT sides of the world, I cant speak for the guys in DUBAI or Russia but, we here in the land of USA are strictly RESTRICTED in Modding cars as far as removing the CATS etc etc, I HIGHLY doubt RENNtech would be promoting FALSE claims, I for one am a RENNtech client for over 10 yrs and Harmut the owner is a straight forward guys read his RESUME what he used to do for MB Hello wasnt he the director of AMG once!! PP performance Im glad your product is doing great as well as the fello guys from DUBAI which I visited many times in my years in the NAVY. But thrashing/slandering is a BIG NO NO here and STICKY will not put up to it!!! Lets talk and give certain info to HELP each other instead of BIATCHING about what or not what ok!!!

Amigos cant we just get along here, we are comparing cars from DIFFERENT sides of the world, I cant speak for the guys in DUBAI or Russia but, we here in the land of USA are strictly RESTRICTED in Modding cars as far as removing the CATS etc etc, I HIGHLY doubt RENNtech would be promoting FALSE claims, I for one am a RENNtech client for over 10 yrs and Harmut the owner is a straight forward guys read his RESUME what he used to do for MB Hello wasnt he the director of AMG once!! PP performance Im glad your product is doing great as well as the fello guys from DUBAI which I visited many times in my years in the NAVY. But thrashing/slandering is a BIG NO NO here and STICKY will not put up to it!!! Lets talk and give certain info to HELP each other instead of BIATCHING about what or not what ok!!!

+1 nobody from our side was "biatching". I respect Renntech. Hey I also had thier tune on one of my cars. Check out the previous posts and look at who was poking who.