Thanks for the reply Neil, and for the welcome. I've done lots of reading here... so I thank everyone for contributing.

It's been so long since I used the maps I have (with Mapsource on an old Intel Windows box I haven't turned on in years, but still hang on to, just in case I need something), I'd forgotten about the restriction on the lock codes -- for one particular unit only as you said, and of course, it's not for the GW's navi system. Which of course, explains my situation to a 'T.' Fortunately, I was able to find a way to unlock the maps here on this forum, so I'm ahead of the game now.

Thanks again for the memory lesson.

Ron

Originally Posted by Neil

G'day gto49, welcome to GPSPower.

You haven't actually stated the history of the gmap version map's use and which unit it's unlock codes are for. You can only 'own' an unlock code for one unit. The two possible scenarios:

If the computer installed map was not purchased for the GW Navi and it has been unlocked for another Garmin unit then it won't be made available to any other unit even though it can be sent to a media card. That's because the unlock and gma codes are exclusively for the previous unit and so the map will not work if the card's used in a different unit.

If however you did unlock it in BaseCamp/MapInstall specifically for the GW Navi's UID then this may indicate that Garmin has tightened up control of using any other maps apart from those they supply on CF cards together with the firmware updates, completely regardless of the other maps being purchased legally. I think that's an unlikely possibility because of their legal responsibility to prominently warn of any such restriction, but if that's the case you may have grounds for a refund despite the length of time since purchase.

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No worries Ron, i thought that was probably the case [and hoping so, because the 2nd scenario wasn't a good one, lol]. No need to thank me for the memory lession, it's a bl**dy wonder i remembered at all.

You may be able to return the favour and test something for me. I don't have access to a GW so i'm unable to test a theory. On nuvi and similar units it's possible to have two different maps covering the same area but only one selected to use for navigation. However the POIs from both maps then will appear on the screen and therefore it's possible to select a poi from the deselected map and navigate to it on the active map. 'Unofficial' unlocked maps on GW Navi CF cannot be searched by POI because the keyboard greys out as you'd be aware from your reading. My theory is that perhaps having an 'official' map on the card with the unlocked map may just overcome this and allow search of a poi on the official map to then navigate to on the unlocked map.

If you're prepared to test, you'll need to combine a recent NT unlocked map with the old non-NT map which was on the CF card [hope you did a backup]. If you have gmap versions of both you can do that with MapInstall and select smaller areas only where you are [MB = Manitoba, maybe?] to send to a small CF card. If you have to combine the full images with [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] then you'll need a 4GB card. My StreetPilot 2610 needs to have one deselected manually, GW navi is loosely based on SP2610 so you'll probably have to uncheck the non-NT before testing.

If you're able to help but need some more assistance let me know.

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Sure Neil, I'm willing to experiment with the Wing's navi system. (I'm done with fighting with Garmin to get up-to-date maps on a more frequent basis and at a lower cost. Up here in Canada, they are charging $115 CAN +shipping for a 2013.40 map set & FW update. I have other issues with Garmin too, but that's another story.)

As I explained in the other thread (in reply to your post), I found the GW had trouble loading the 2015.10 map even though it seemed to load without any warnings. There was no street level detail no matter how much I zoomed in. I didn't try to locate any POIs though... I just reverted back to the old card. And yes and no on the backup... I kept my original card and used another 2GB card I had to update my FW to 4.70 and maps to the 2013.30 set I had already on my iMac (with an unlock code for another unit).

But that map is over a year old already and would like to get a newer one... thus the 2015.10 IMG unlocked trial, which didn't work because of the size (I'm assuming... 2.33 GB on a 4GB card).

I probably confused you in that previous post referring to a 4GB CF card, your Navi maybe still can't see a map image even if it's the under the 'FAT16 file size limit' of less than 2 GiB on a 4 GB card re-formatted to FAT16, but it certainly can't see an image 2GiB or over on a card formatted FAT32 which is what you tried, 'cos it cannot see that big an image file even if it can recognise the FAT 32 format [the related SP 2610 can't].

Therefore, simplest way to test would be to just use a 2GB or less card formatted in default FAT16. The image is then restrained to no more that 1.9 GiB [~2,047,541,000 bytes] which is well under the limit of 2,147,483,647 bytes anyway. So you will need a gmap folder of any NA NT map and your original locked non-NT image which came with the bike, That's probably either 2005 or 2006 NT North America. If you have a later non-NT up to 2009 you can use that as long as it's an official locked image purchased on a card.

So in MapInstall, from the NT gmap folder generate a small image where you are in MB. Even a single tile will do. Send it to any usb stick or media card, then copy the img to your PC. Unlock if necessary with gimgunlock, then combine it and the locked non-NT image using GMAPTool to create a single gmapsupp.img to try on a 2GB CF in your Navi.
Deselect the non-NT before testing the search function.

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Not confused... don't know enough about the intricacies of the hardware! One limitation is working with stuff target for MS systems on a Mac. Oh well.

This is my current status:
1. I have a 2GB CF card from Garmin with CN NA NT 2013.30 map which I created using Garmin's MapInstall and my own map for which I have an unlock code, but for another GPS unit (which I no longer own). That's in the bike right now, and works fine, albeit no POI search function (greyed out keyboard).
2. I have the CF card that came with the bike, which I don't want to touch... I put it in a safe place. As far as I can tell, it has CN 2008/2009 non-NT map, as reported by the navi INFO/SYSTEM (by the way, INFO/MAPSOURCE, as listed in the menu in the 2006 Navigation System manual, no longer appears on the menu. Using that menu option, it listed all the map segments that were installed and active, and you could deselect the areas where you weren't traveling to "speed up system performance." Can't do that anymore... You could even deselect the "Honda Dealers" so they wouldn't appear! I guess Honda didn't like that option...).
3. I have two 1GB Sandisk UltraII CF cards, and a 4GB ExtremeIV CF card. One of the 1GB cards is FAT16 (formatted by the camera I use), and the other is FAT32 (formatted by the Mac's DiskUtility). The 4GB is also FAT32 (default for >2GB cards).

So... to carry out the experiment as you suggest, I need to find another 2GB card and format it to FAT16. Would that be correct?

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