RyanDS wrote:
Getting rather annoyed now with Live. HAd the console 3 days and still can't play online due to server issues. XBox help say they are aware of the issue and looking into it.

Terrible on a bank holiday weekend, hell, I have my PS4 launch day and never had this sort of problem,

I've been online with no issues. Very odd.

Just been on chat with them again. It is a bug where trial gold doesn't work...
"Ryan, we apologize for the inconvenience this has caused you. We are fully aware that xbox live users who have free gold trials are not being able to access xbox live recently. "

I'm not having problems with XBL at the moment, but it's true that the service in these 8 months has been having problems more often than in 8 years of Xbox 360. Whatever MS is trying to sort out, hopefully they are gonna sort out soon.

Malek86 wrote:
I'm not having problems with XBL at the moment, but it's true that the service in these 8 months has been offline more often than in 8 years of Xbox 360. Whatever MS is trying to sort out, hopefully they are gonna sort out soon.

@DiddlerDo that's different. Suspending games while the console is turned on is generally easy to do nowadays, although the PS4 is a bit more limited than the X1 in this regard: it's a lot more seamless in the X1, like on a smartphone, and some programs still need to close the game on PS4, such as the video editing app, while on X1 you can multitask with literally everything that isn't another game (and even some games, if they have been programmed to load into side memory).

I think it's due to the memory management. The PS4 probably can't put anything into side memory unless the OS says so, and everything else needs to be in the main memory (thus requiring game closure). In order to change that, and tell the OS what can be loaded into side memory, I assume a firmware update is necessary.

The X1 is a bit more flexible: essentially, the OS is hard-wired so that everything that isn't a game gets loaded into side memory, including any future apps. This approach has good points (multitasking with literally everything, updating single apps without requiring a firmware update) but also bad points (the system is slower than a monolithical OS, since every app has to be loaded separately and has access to more limited resources).

Then again, it's just a hypothesis. We don't really know how the PS4 system works, because Sony has been coy on the matter. We know it's separated into main memory and side memory, like the X1, but not much else.

Malek86 wrote:
I'm not having problems with XBL at the moment, but it's true that the service in these 8 months has been offline more often than in 8 years of Xbox 360. Whatever MS is trying to sort out, hopefully they are gonna sort out soon.

True

Hope you get it sorted Ryan!

Have to say the X1 has given me more issues than the 360. It is trying to do more at once though. They haven't quite struck the balance of versatility and reliability yet.