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Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball.Sun, 02 Aug 2015 23:19:20 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: danglingfuryhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/24/blogger-murray-chass-attacks-me-for-bad-reporting-ignores-quotes-evidence-in-doing-so/comment-page-1/#comment-698418
Thu, 01 May 2014 19:54:13 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-698418No, the other way around.
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Sat, 26 Apr 2014 20:06:08 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-695158I have one major problem with this piece, which is otherwise excellent. Chass is NOT a Hall of Famer. Where did you get the idea that Spink or Frick Award winners were HOFers? Certainly not from the Hall of Fame, which makes it very clear on their website that the winners are NOT Hall of Fame inductees. It is an honor, definitely, but certainly does not make the recipient a Hall of Famer. Otherwise, kudos.
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Fri, 25 Apr 2014 19:09:08 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-694656I don’t even know how one discerns a liberal baseball blogger from a conservative baseball blogger. My only guess is believing in sabermetrics makes one an “ultra libtard”, while a conservative baseball blogger would go more for RBI, wins and batting average.
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Fri, 25 Apr 2014 04:15:05 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-694040Is plethora really a more valuable word than miasma?
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Fri, 25 Apr 2014 04:11:42 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-694039Eh, it’s more Simmons that’s anti-comments – he has been going back at least to Page 2. I know there are other authors that don’t allow comments, but the three I read most there – Zach Lowe, Jonah Keri and Andy Greenwald – all have comments enabled on their columns.
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Fri, 25 Apr 2014 02:07:20 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-694001Really? Chass is legitimizing Craig Calcaterra? Seriously?
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Fri, 25 Apr 2014 00:56:43 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-693964So many guys in the media have such thin skin. You guys sound like vindictive, sanctimonious little beotches.

You might be right, but Craig, you willl never be in the HOF.

That’s the “check mate” in this hissy fit.

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Fri, 25 Apr 2014 00:29:57 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-693952Just sit down together somewhere and have a beer and get it settled. Nothing’s more lame than publicizing a tiff between two people no one gives a s_it about.
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Thu, 24 Apr 2014 23:46:22 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-693933I’m sure I’ll get thumbs-downed for this, but…

@martywinn – College students?

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Thu, 24 Apr 2014 22:01:45 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-693896My enjoyment could also be termed as turnabout being fair play. Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals’ has been the standard playbook for the radical left for just about every election and issue. Unfortunately, it is now being used by a much wider spectrum to the point where truth is rarely publicly spoken in these circles. Disregard for facts and using twisted half-truths or downright lies are constantly used to denigrate someone with a different opinion. This is done to influence weak minds, on either side of an issue or the aisle. It is a main cause of the massive amount of discourse in this country, because people believe the propoganda and it fuels hate rather than honest discussion. It also carrries over to sport when certain individuals, several of whom are in the PFT family, try to impose their view on others. Many use the tactic without knowing where it came from, just because they have seen it being used effectively. As for Chass, I don’t believe he used it as a tactic, he more likely just has a shaky concept of reality. As for Craig, I could have said just said “How does it feel when it happens to you?”, but I couldn’t resist taking the dig. With a friend like me, who needs enemies?
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Thu, 24 Apr 2014 21:54:50 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-693891“In the hours before I wrote this column I was looking for something and found something else, one of the dumbest and most ignorant pieces of baseball writing I have read in years. It was a piece by Craig Calcaterra of NBCsports.com.”

He must be new to the site…

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Thu, 24 Apr 2014 21:09:04 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-693848“Bigdaddy”‘s comment….pretty much just summed up what the GOP has, unfortunately, become: “I don’t care if the facts are correct, but I enjoy watching you being attacked by them!’. I’ll give BigDaddy kudos for the unforeseen and rare honesty….and then chuckle a bit before I shake my head in disbelief for the ignorance on which he forms decisions.
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Thu, 24 Apr 2014 19:48:35 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-693779KenTremendous, aka Mike Schnurr, was interviewed before that segment too. His article on FJM about it is a must read:

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Thu, 24 Apr 2014 19:23:33 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-693744“Even though Chass has no leg to stand on, because your politics aren’t like mine, I think this is pretty awesome.”

#STRONGTAEK

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Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:53:02 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-693708This Blogger Murray Chass has got to be one of the worst Bloggers ever. He’s like the reason people think bloggers all live in their mothers’ basements. I’m tired of blogger Murray Chass giving sports and other bloggers a bad name. There are a lot of great baseball bloggers and real journalists who happen to blog, but this baseball blogger Murray Chass lacks any credibility and just really harms the stature of his fellow bloggers by association.
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Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:44:50 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-693699I’m surprised Murray Chase can use the Internet. Or as he calls it, “The World Wide Web.”
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Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:26:33 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-693663You sound upset.
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Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:19:11 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-693649Truth. See: Grantland.
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Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:17:55 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-693647Who do simplistic left wing positions appeal to?
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Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:11:48 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-693642Only “pretty sure”? It seems certain to me.
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Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:06:57 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-693638In all fairness, Gator, simplistic left wing positions also appeal to simple minds. Neither is right, but they’re easy.
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Thu, 24 Apr 2014 17:56:39 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-693625I don’t even need to read the article. Once the words “Murray” and “Chass” were uttered consecutively, I knew that verbal diarrhea was going to ensure (on his part, not yours, Craig).
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Thu, 24 Apr 2014 17:51:42 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-693617Good that you admit that you’re childish. Simplistic right wing positions always appeal to simple minds.
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Thu, 24 Apr 2014 17:44:25 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-693607I think what bothers Chass and most of his ilk is that the blogosphere has pulled back the curtain and exposed them. For decades, they thrived on the mythology that as sports writers they were keepers of the sacred flame of sports journalism, that their opinion mattered more than yours because only they were properly steeped and educated in the “game” and all of its intricacies and nuances. By advancing this mythology, they were able to make a great living and garner a rather respectable level of fame doing what they loved. Who wouldn’t want that?

Well, guess what? Turns out that given an outlet to do so, lots of people can write interestingly and compellingly about sports. Who knew? I’ll tell you who. Murray Chass knew all along. He, and all of his colleagues, knew that writing about sports was not, in fact, rocket science. They spent many decades building the myth, and it got torn down in less than one.

For a perfect example of what I am talking about, check out this article about a 2009 TV show called “Costas Now”, which featured an episode on bloggers. If you can find the episode online, I recommend you do it. Old guard sports journalist Buzz Bissinger’s head nearly explodes.

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Thu, 24 Apr 2014 17:32:11 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-693596Chass committed two comma splices in the same sentence in which he was lamenting bad grammar.
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Thu, 24 Apr 2014 17:31:44 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-693594I have got to admit, I enjoy when ultra libtards like you and Florio are attacked like this by anyone. It does not bother me if the attacker has no sense of reality. This is the exact M.O. that those with similar world views as yours on a broader spectrum outside of sport use to attack their enemies. Even though attacking someone with lies or misinformation is wrong and two wrongs don’t make a right, it is enjoyable seeing one of you squirm in my own childish mind. Don’t fret CC, I still love you and still owe you that $1.00 lobster dinner!
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Thu, 24 Apr 2014 17:09:31 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-693561Nice groin shot at the end there Craig.
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Thu, 24 Apr 2014 17:06:28 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-693558Actually, if we’re doing Old Style here, sports blogs should be about the freaking teams.
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Thu, 24 Apr 2014 17:04:27 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-693551I don’t understand it either, who doesn’t love a good cripple fight? What’s not to like?
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Thu, 24 Apr 2014 17:03:45 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=519155#comment-693550That’s the way for all self-loathing bloggers and shrill octogenarian scolds.
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