Nightowl wrote:She did tip the waitress, they had a big party and there was 8% tip already added into the bill. She just did not give any extra. I saw this story on the news this morning.

But either way she should not have put that on the bill and I am glad she was called out on it. The waitress should not have been fired.

I heard the update too. The main reason the server was fired was because she posted the bill with the person's legal signature at first. She has since blurred the signature, but that is how they (internet world detectives) found out who the 'pastor' was.

I think it is a sorry thing for the pastor to do, but the server should have known better. Private info that can id a person "must not' be disclosed even if the person is a real biotch.

Nightowl wrote:She did tip the waitress, they had a big party and there was 8% tip already added into the bill. She just did not give any extra. I saw this story on the news this morning.

But either way she should not have put that on the bill and I am glad she was called out on it. The waitress should not have been fired.

The waitress should not have been fired! Right! After seeing the picture of her.It all fit in.The devil got to talking to her about the tip!I don't believe in woman pastor anyway! Maybe someone should put a note like that the next time the collection plate is passed around at the church for her salary

Wild Irish Prose wrote:Sorry, Prop. I didn't see this before starting the other thread. Normally, I scroll down to be sure a news topic hasn't already been started by someone before posting it myself.

On the upside: the more people that see it the better!

It's very appropriate that more than one person gets so incensed at such behavior that they were compelled to post about. This way we can two separate discussions themes.

Mine is:

"The church began as a movement in Jerusalem. It became a philosophy in Greece, an institution in Rome, a culture in Europe and, when it came to America, it became a business... a highly profitable business."

Lifestyles of The Tele-Evangelist... Fleecing The Flock.

Most of the people on this page made their millions by preaching the Prosperity doctrine, which is the Word-Faith/Positive Confession movement applied to finances. It is centered around the idea that although Christians should keep one eye on Heaven, the good news is that God doesn't want His people to wait until then to inherit His blessings.

It is deeply alarming that most Christians seem to be blissfully unaware of the fact that the principles of the Word-Faith movement being trumpeted from pulpits across the land, stem from the same occult sources as the spiritual movement known as New Thought.

The non-believing world claims that there are spiritual “laws” which people can learn to use on their behalf. These laws, which will work for anyone regardless of their religious beliefs (or even lack of) are referred to in different terms, but both sides use exactly the same techniques. [See Comparing The Methodology/Technique]. Make absolutely NO mistake.. the secular world, by learning and applying certain principles, can and does match, or even exceed, the gain that "Christian" ministers promise. And we are to believe that this is from God?

However, since they claim to be Christians, the Word Faith group have to somehow “Christianize” the concepts, by adding God into the mixture. This in spite of the fact that a) there are no clear examples of Positive Confession in the Scriptures, b) The texts quoted over and over again by the Word of Faith teachers are usually taken way out of context and therefore do not prove their point, c) The Scriptures refute the general principles behind the beliefs and teachings of the Prosperity Doctrine camp and d) The teaching that believers are to confess rather than to pray for things which God has promised is contradicted by the Bible.

Paul and Jan Crouch founded TBN back in 1973 — God spoke to Paul as he was driving on MacArthur Boulevard, he has said on air — and he promised to put up his last dollars to make it work. As soon as he made that sacrifice, the donations poured in, he said — and the prosperity gospel TBN preaches has become more wildly successful than he ever imagined. Trinity brings in nearly $200 million a year and has amassed net assets of nearly $1 billion, according to its latest tax returns. It is ”Jesus’s only network,” Jan Crouch has said, and has employed extended members of the Crouch family clan.Until recently.

Brittany Koper, the granddaughter at the root of the current ruckus, is the daughter of Paul Crouch Jr. — the founder’s namesake. After becoming Trinity’s finance director last summer, she tried to correct what she saw as financial excesses, she said in a 180-page declaration filed in Orange County Superior Court — objecting to, among many other things, the free-spending ways of her uncle Matthew Crouch and his wife, Laurie.

Her attempts were not well-received by others in her family, by her account.

Ringling Bros property! I do believe she has black spiders glued on for eyelashes.Lord help these poor souls and please send them a new wardrobe ,makeup person,they have fallen into the trash barrel for clothes!

Nightowl wrote:She did tip the waitress, they had a big party and there was 8% tip already added into the bill. She just did not give any extra. I saw this story on the news this morning.

But either way she should not have put that on the bill and I am glad she was called out on it. The waitress should not have been fired.

I heard the update too. The main reason the server was fired was because she posted the bill with the person's legal signature at first. She has since blurred the signature, but that is how they (internet world detectives) found out who the 'pastor' was.

I think it is a sorry thing for the pastor to do, but the server should have known better. Private info that can id a person "must not' be disclosed even if the person is a real biotch.

What makes it "private?" She signed what she knew (or should have known) what was a circulating public document. The waitress was not a lawyer, doctor, or minister. There is no expectation of confidentiality with a restaurant bill.

“See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.”― George W. Bush

So many people use God , when indeed it is the devil playing out!Give the waitress back her job,when you a waitress YOU NEED the money are you would not be working. A nasty job ,but somebody has to do it!

Send the pastor a business note saying,God lead them to hiring her back or put it in the collection plate for her money!