This offense will be in great shape. The question is the defense. The need to get someone in here that will get the most out of these players. If so, this team will be unstoppable. Certainly will win the division.

If this defense allows less ppg you don’t even have to improve the offensive production and this team will win 10 games. That’s how close they are.\!

alex7

Exactly Terrapin. Get a car rental, do your family thing, leave quietly. If you miss your hood friends that much, fly them out to your current location. Plenty of things to do in California.

Kyle orton is way overrated. He is not clutch. Steve young and ron jaworski have stated you judge a qb by what he does on third down. I also look at the fourth quarter and orton is no great shakes in these areas.

Alex, you’re trying to paint a black & white picture, and we’ve just punched all kinds of holes in it, that’s all.

alex7

Macho,

you mean the Bengals that made the playoff teams twice in the last few years, including just LAST year?

Because they drafted a 1st round QB in Palmer?

Yup.

Also, you’re still not discussing percentages. You’re showing a few hand-picked examples and ignoring the rest.

RaiderDebo

KoolKell Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Alex

Stats without context make for shallow argument.
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I agree with this statement big time, especially when it comes to football. But Alex is right on this one. Why the hell are people on this board excited about mid-round QB prospects. The guys with the skills it takes to make it in this league are snatched up early. Anybody picked after round 2 has serious warts.

Macho, I don’t flap aimlessly here without running numbers first. I already did it a few weeks back.

The last 10 years, odds of a mid-to-late QB working out was about 16%.

Odds of a 1st round QB working out was about 70%.

Picking QBs late is a waste. Ask the Dolphins.

Just Fire Baby

Bernie Kosar was undrafted???

That can’t be right

alex7

“But Alex is right on this one. Why the hell are people on this board excited about mid-round QB prospects. The guys with the skills it takes to make it in this league are snatched up early. Anybody picked after round 2 has serious warts.”

Thanks Debo. All these posters have to do is set their egos aside for one nano-second (I know it’s hard for you all) and LOOK at the NFL and their QBs.

Most are 1st rounders for a reason.

Macho Man Randy Savage

sorry. Kosar was 1st round supplemental draft.

Just Fire Baby

Alex, how do you know McClain was in the hood? He might have been at a congresswoman’s rally. You don’t have to be in the hood anymore to get shot in America. Ask Judge John Roll.

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Only in the hood do you still have drive-bys though.

alex7

Learn from Kyle Boller.

Big arm, bad accuracy, weak #s in Pac-10 = BIG risk.

Aaron Rodgers had a similar cast around him at Cal (anyone remember his college WRs? No? Ok) but put up much better accuracy numbers.

Do you have something else that the draft revolves around besides stats and talent evaluation?
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His play?

M Lonetree

from what I just read
86 QBs have been taken as first-rounders since 1970.
15 1st round QBs are among the 28 who have won Super Bowls (including Dawson and Namath – pre 1970)
of those 15 only 9 won with the team that drafted them.

Just Fire Baby

I think it is about 50/50 on QB’s.

Half of them are top 15 picks it seems, and the other half come from all these crazy rounds and are undrafted like Romo.