Mary Kissel and Joe Rago discuss Veterans Administration chief Eric Shinseki's resignation and further reforms needed in the department. Also, what do Dr. Dre and Donald Sterling have in common? Photo: Getty Images.

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... I ... I ... the ... the ... the begun Ross Byron many people responsible including senior leaders at ... the Phoenix BA ... he's canceled any possible performance bonuses this year for the ha that senior executives ... a few minutes ago sector to sector are for me his own resignation ... with concert will ... accept ... welcome to Opinion Journal why Mary Kissel ... the bomb I except Eric Shinseki is resignation at the VA ... and appoint an acting chief is currently the deputy secretary ... but was personnel moves really change anything ... I've got editorial board member Joe rego joining me now Joe ... I it doesn't matter who runs the BA ... well ... look I think Shinseki had to go here this interim report the came out this week ... shows a systematic effort up possibly criminal ... to falsify these records ... so that this is a lot of people were talking about here are a culture of the fact that he presided over that ... and I think his resignation with the essential ... them to a question of ... the systemic change anything no I don't think you will hear your ... blocking off the head but leaving that cold sure to tell the president has some suggestions about how to change the VA what's have listened to that ... the challenge is getting veterans ... in to the door for tickle e for the first appointment in some cases ... and where they don't have an established relationship with a doctor ... and are not in the system ... the best of the technology ... part of that is management ... photo of the challenge is getting better reason than to war they need better technology later the president said that ... the VA just means more money right that the euro reaction to the buck stops with the I T department of the a ... Melanie the Buffett there are certain things you can do to ... improve the da in in in truth it's improved a lot ... on sat but but but that's from a very very low baseline PSAs since the Clinton ministrations VA ... has improved but but it still ... retains that bureaucratic culture and what they need to do ... singing to break it up ... I've exposed it to private competition ... and that's what's really contrived changes instead of just saying well will will ... push more money into a dysfunctional bureaucracy our editorial this morning called the BEA's bonus culture talked about ... the per person said is that pushing all this money if the da has created ... Joe are you saying that if we implemented with the president wants to do ... that anymore money and I the eye and putting new managers and ... the government just keep those incentives in place ... look the pink had this bonus culture because they said we wanna bring down the wait times that's going to be armature for the for the quality of care ... in the system is cannot do that of all systems that her health systems are run by the government ... ration care to wait ... so there was really no way ... I'd to do it so they started falsifying in to get these bonuses that again returns to kind of called troll point ... that that that the agents joke and ... have a point though blaming Congress because ... Congress know about these problems just as much as the executive branch did what everybody knew about this province their inherent in a system like the VA ... so what I think this is really a than ... anything any kind of reform plan comes ... in the wake of section seconds departure that does not ... really have a root and branch reform the system ... I do is is really not going to fix the problem and and the next president will probably of his own VA Scandal George W Bush did ... well look it's a great guy about how to think about these proposals as we see them in the coming days and weeks thank you ... editorial board member Joe rego thanks for joining ... coming up next what do Dr Gerais and Donald Sterling have in common states ... welcome back to Opinion Journal I'm Mary Kissel ... two businessmen stand to make two very big windfalls in the coming weeks ... L A Clippers owner Donald Sterling is reporting to be selling eighteen eight two billion dollars ... and a rapper and co-founder of Beats Electronics from Dr Gerais also make a boatload selling his company to Apple for three billion ... these guys have in common ... business World columnist Holman Jenkins Junior on the line home and ... with these guys together for me because I don't see it when they have in common will lead the yen Tuesday the windfalls or maybe these huge media appetite for content programming ... the Clippers or is the promise four time when any NBA team is ever so far into the numbers to the Nano and a been a ... perennial losers but you know that the cable TV companies and one final Netflix one when you're in it for months or so ... never mind the truth is probably the bomb or a post detection by selling a ... T Rex and a heavy handed out at the trees is selling its new streaming headphone business Apple ... Apple has big plans to play and media ... world who futures Ben Eisen to expand Apple TV ... and one thing in one stopper in this package is going to the Beats Music streaming service ... in which celebrities how to create a climate that's one of its unique selling shares ... to ponder ... the founder and a three billion dollars from Apple ... you also argue that these two have a certain kind of history and common well explain what you don't have home has no incentive to an intraday a doll sermons rant about how he doesn't want black celebrities ... accompanying his girlfriend to Clippers games ... nobody had heard not a single word ... mention of a Dr Gerais history even plan a founder's death row records in the ... nineties involved in gang warfare lots of the musicians that killed ... a doctor drink and so ... was convicted of beating the pantyhose woman ... because he didn't like the way she covered his former band and a new way ... that anybody who want to learn about the changes ... will name the bars receive ... her ... within the page for an account for Rolling Stone about what a wonder they arrive home I have read about that anywhere any of the major media coverage ... they also have a third thing in common however and that's where these deals are taking place ... namely California ... is the significance to the citizens I know that there's some kind of ... bubble going on there some kind of vibrancy out there that isn't happening in other parts of the country ... well there you know you sell it argues that look on Vale's are used to be bubbles going on a Silicom Valley ... you know of many businesses are going to through the net ... and the pieces are the that ... that is the sports franchise all goods and I said that he had always the cable operators and others competing for this very rare on programming that people have to consume wine making it from Netflix so ... the president of the room for sport franchise is the way doctors told two years ago virtually unknown ... which was in the day it's the ... biggest prize ever ... the Clippers of really ... great franchise on FF ... I guess it doesn't matter how you play this as long as you're able to watch the game ... as long as they can stay in a long enough to stay in the anti FA ... in a while ok ... Holman Jenkins Junior telling us that on sterling and the Kedron have in common ... thank you very much ... we say in California now because electric car company Tesla ... is trying to figure out where to build a five billion dollar battery factory ... in California isn't even on the list while ... I've got Business World columnist Holman Jenkins Junior staying with me now ... aam and so I mean that the original ... announcement the original decision one CEO yuan must not California on that list you are worth the listen now when you love one of them he said ... no one used ... permitting process in the name of environmental regulations and the ... litigation invariably follow you find from a new business there ... pieces when underwriting oh by the end of the decade later and he's pretty how would you be too slow ... but he is inherently anti California politicians you know me a ... direct subsidies to the buyers of its cars tax subsidies in this business ... issued revenues he gets from California's zero emission vehicles credit ... the ... political shenanigans that helps deliver a twenty oh is the ... Fremont plant in on very attractive terms ... so I ... went out for new housing starts adding up the attic California to list ... as the improbable but not impossible candidate to receive this plan couple this even happens at the zoo thing online or its part to ... steer the company of politicians who have been is the ... guardian angels for so long there it's a great play all Many la Masuzoe is painted as this innovative entrepreneur ... but these days he does an awful lot of taxpayer support ... where do you think ... the other options that he's considering NY ... Monday's visiting places like in ... taxes and the Nevada Arizona New Mexico basically because they're more business friendly states in the eighteen day as planned on running and are still close to California is the ... plan is to look out for when celebrities batteries to this plans of an unnamed source to it lately is the candidate if he Wiens following Solana has gotten explain that ... well it will ... take his ... assembly plant in California ... that he uses giant five billion dollars battery plant summer of ... heheh through because they absolutely Hillary it Toyota when it refused to continue propping up the GM slashed Toyota plant in Fremont California where Steve month with an app that bankruptcy court refused to use of ... its money losing plant ... in California politicians long ... led the charge ... against player for this state teamed up in electronic bug supposedly causing a runaway Toyotas the cost ... Twitter billions of dollars in fines and lawsuits settlements are basically say he's there ... and it was the California politicians always who led the campaign ... so companies look to put ... plants and factories where they're welcome imagine that ... business World columnist Ullman Dickens you here ... thank you so much for joining us ... as a new book out that sell some unsung heroes and their stories ... state in the opposite ... welcome back to Opinion Journal I'm Mary Kissel ... just how much do better in sacrifice for our country ... there are a lot of stories that we never did see here ... says my next guest author Mark will be green but new book out called valor ... the two histories of nine American heroes and what they did in Iraq Afghanistan in the home front ... what prompted you to write this book will be in two thousandseven in two thousand when two awards banquets where Dion or military heroes need to hold the stories of what these men and women were doing overseas ... and they were ... unbelievable Tier inspiring stories newspapers ... no one knows who these people are ... when they go home there can be lucky to be ... a bagging groceries if they get a job in the first place ... and so I sit someone's gonna be telling the stories and I just decided ... one night you ... was it hard to get these veterans to explain what they had done ... absolutely did there is one ... FA in that bed that night persists throughout all in all attorneys that they don't talk ... enough about themselves ... they deflect credit the talk of a point to someone else to say ... that's the real hero ... and that that was the hard part these men and women are done incredible things in so breaking through the head ... of was difficult ... the example of just one of the spheres it's a little bit of a taste of the book and ... and and really the theme of the incredible levels of terrorists in the YouView Chronicle shore Brian Welch was ... an army pilot ... and at this point a routine mission Over the triangle of death in Baghdad and he could have a distress call to other pilot crashed and survived the crash in the trial of debt ... and Ryan and his co pilot Austin Leonid their aircraft ... Brian got out across across this field ... found were the survivors were carried him back to the aircraft minute is in the ... triangle of death was there to be in certain working at any point ... and in the next in the rind it was really impressive really just amazing ... there's only room for one the guys in the in the Apache that he was fine the next week oh one of them in there and the knee strapped himself ... and the other injured pilot to be outside of the helicopter ... was co pilot I had any fights the Coppell was fine because all it flew flew them all ... to the hospital ... by the end of Brian literally saved their lives that night pretty incredible for inspiration to get the sense of what drives these guys to to to do these extraordinary things one of its yet one thing ... to emerge over no recap ... Brotherhood ... these guys are so committed to each other ... that ill do anything for them it's it's overwhelming and the country and the country absolutely but in that moment ... of when they're doing when they're putting their lives online it's the can not do it for their body ... I need in Ryan's case ... the it was to ... have to queue but the nature of the day wore ... on and he still did that but it's just that sense of brotherhood is just overwhelming of course featured isn't defending a country that that underlies everything but in that moment that stating that guy it's pretty amazing well what uplifting stories ... Mark Lee Green bought to offer a Ballard think you so much thank you for torrents ... you can follow us on Twitter or email us at Opinion Journal why the WS J dot com ... I'm Mary Kissel with The Wall Street Journal editorial board ... have a great weekend ... I ... I