It's been a prevalent notion. Fallen sparks. Fragments of vessels broken at the Creation. And someday, somehow, before the end, a gathering back to home. A messenger from the Kingdom, arriving at the last moment. But I tell you there is no such message, no such home -- only the millions of last moments . . . nothing more. Our history is an aggregate of last moments.

yes, in the 80s and 90s you had teams like Red Star Belgrade and Steaua (twice) reaching the CL final and even winning it, Gotteborg, Dundee, Videoton in UEFA Cup finals etc, not to mention semifinals and quarterfinals. nowadays if youre not a top club from the top 5 leagues, your best bet is passing the group in CL occasionally, or passing 2 rounds in the EL if you get an easy path

Steaua, Red Star, Club Brugge, Anderlecht , Feyenoord , PSV , Ajax (strong ajax like in 70s and 90s not what we see now) Panathinaikos , USSR teams and GDR teams who were very tough teams, you had a serious job to do to win v them , for example Carl Zeiss Jena (absolutely no name today ) beat a good side of Roma (sure not the best example to give) 4-0 in 1980 when they had a good team that was challenging mighty juve of trapatoni for scudetto , magdeburg even managed to win cup winners cup in 1974 after a final with milan beating them 2-0, we lost couple of times against those rdg teams also, most notable ch league in 1974 against dynamo dresden , also west germany championship was better than now in 70s ,80s and 90s , there were teams like Hamburg, Gladbach(beat 5-1 real madrid) , Koln (beat 4-0 barcelona on their stadium ) or Lautern who beat 5-0 real also , we had some apparently weird results also we lost to widzew lodz , otelul galati for example . All of these things are utopia in this football after 00s.

It's not Just a stadium - It's our Home. It's not just a kit - It's our Skin. We're not only Eleven - We're Millions. We're not just a crowd - We're a family. It's not just 90 minutes - It's a lifetime. It's not just a passion - It's an emotion. It's not just a game - It's our life. Juventus is not just a club - It's a lifestyle!

i like Labile but i dont want him to win trophies outside of Juve either

I know.

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Originally Posted by Juventus 1897

Steaua, Red Star, Club Brugge, Anderlecht , Feyenoord , PSV , Ajax (strong ajax like in 70s and 90s not what we see now) Panathinaikos , USSR teams and GDR teams who were very tough teams, you had a serious job to do to win v them , for example Carl Zeiss Jena (absolutely no name today ) beat a good side of Roma (sure not the best example to give) 4-0 in 1980 when they had a good team that was challenging mighty juve of trapatoni for scudetto , magdeburg even managed to win cup winners cup in 1974 after a final with milan beating them 2-0, we lost couple of times against those rdg teams also, most notable ch league in 1974 against dynamo dresden , also west germany championship was better than now in 70s ,80s and 90s , there were teams like Hamburg, Gladbach(beat 5-1 real madrid) , Koln (beat 4-0 barcelona on their stadium ) or Lautern who beat 5-0 real also , we had some apparently weird results also we lost to widzew lodz , otelul galati for example . All of these things are utopia in this football after 00s.