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Re: America land of the glutinous

Originally Posted by Paschendale

Part of it is inflation. Part of it is the rampant consumerism that started exactly from those 50's kids when they started making lots of money in the 70's and 80's. That's where the idea that greed is good came from. That's where Wall Street became more important than Main Street. That's where the idea that "he who dies with the most toys wins" came from.

Kids right now are not nearly as bad as you think, and the ones that are... they're merely emulating their parents.

Re: America land of the glutinous

Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon

When I was a kid in the 50s everyone except movie stars and Randolph Hearst lived in modest homes, drove modest cars and took modest vacations. Mom and dad loaded all 4 of us kids in the station wagon with the 16 ft Terry behind us and we went camping. Now you see people in 200K motor homes "camping". Houses are now huge and having a maid to clean it and a gardener to mow the lawn is common. Kids wear $200.00 tennis shoes, I wore PF Fliers. I could go on and on and give example after example but I think you get the point. IMO opinion Americans have become greedy, spoiled,voracious, rapacious consumers and I get sick of hearing people whine about not having enough. We have developed an entitlement mentality, "I am an American and I deserve to have everything I want". Makes me sick.

I get what you are saying, but I have a14 year old, we don't have a luxurious Terry trailer, we use a 70 dollar tent.

Re: America land of the glutinous

Originally Posted by Kal'Stang

And yet there are still millions of americans that work on farms.

You keep saying that but provide no sources. Farmers work on farms, their wives and kids work on farms but as far as farm labor goes I think their are very few Americans that do the circuit unless you mean recent LEGAL Mexican immigrants.

Re: America land of the glutinous

Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon

When I was a kid in the 50s everyone except movie stars and Randolph Hearst lived in modest homes, drove modest cars and took modest vacations. Mom and dad loaded all 4 of us kids in the station wagon with the 16 ft Terry behind us and we went camping. Now you see people in 200K motor homes "camping". Houses are now huge and having a maid to clean it and a gardener to mow the lawn is common. Kids wear $200.00 tennis shoes, I wore PF Fliers. I could go on and on and give example after example but I think you get the point. IMO opinion Americans have become greedy, spoiled,voracious, rapacious consumers and I get sick of hearing people whine about not having enough. We have developed an entitlement mentality, "I am an American and I deserve to have everything I want". Makes me sick.

My entitled mentality is "I am an American and I deserve to say everything I want," but as far as lifestyle, no way. Frankly, I know you're not big on the liberals, but have you noticed the massive amount of liberals transitioning to models of sustainable living? They actually base a big part of their lives on reducing human impact on the natural world, not to mention the historical bleeding-heart types who would give their last dollar to a family in need of a meal.

Conservatives donate more to charities than liberals, so it's not like one side cares and the other doesn't. Churches and shelters and many organizations run entirely or almost entirely from private donors, and even the website we're conversing via depends on human generosity to maintain itself. When I look around America, I see people who are working very hard, have taken on a lot of responsibility, and are trying the best they can. According to my Facebook page, I currently am friends with some 500 people (a vast overstatement) and aside from a handful I barely know, I'd say 1 or 2 of them is a spoiled rich person who thinks they deserve everything. You should look at all the people you know and see how many of them are spoiled and want to take, take take and never give back. And then if you don't know those people, what makes you so sure that everybody else does know them?

Re: America land of the glutinous

Originally Posted by Mustachio

My entitled mentality is "I am an American and I deserve to say everything I want," but as far as lifestyle, no way. Frankly, I know you're not big on the liberals, but have you noticed the massive amount of liberals transitioning to models of sustainable living? They actually base a big part of their lives on reducing human impact on the natural world, not to mention the historical bleeding-heart types who would give their last dollar to a family in need of a meal.

Conservatives donate more to charities than liberals, so it's not like one side cares and the other doesn't. Churches and shelters and many organizations run entirely or almost entirely from private donors, and even the website we're conversing via depends on human generosity to maintain itself. When I look around America, I see people who are working very hard, have taken on a lot of responsibility, and are trying the best they can. According to my Facebook page, I currently am friends with some 500 people (a vast overstatement) and aside from a handful I barely know, I'd say 1 or 2 of them is a spoiled rich person who thinks they deserve everything. You should look at all the people you know and see how many of them are spoiled and want to take, take take and never give back. And then if you don't know those people, what makes you so sure that everybody else does know them?

Unfortunately our last election proves there is a slight majority in this country that thinks they are owed something simply because they are Americans. They seem to believe that obama's plans for redistribution of wealth are laudable and are basically voting themselves money. It's all downhill from here.

Re: America land of the glutinous

Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon

You keep saying that but provide no sources. Farmers work on farms, their wives and kids work on farms but as far as farm labor goes I think their are very few Americans that do the circuit unless you mean recent LEGAL Mexican immigrants.

Re: America land of the glutinous

Personally, I think since about 1890, people have been spoiled. It all started to go downhill once they had Montgomery Ward distribution!

Yeah, the evil "Walmart" of its time.

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