^ from this image above. I see that Geomancy isn’t available ... well afaik a lama told me that Feng Shui was a real thing. So why can’t they make their lives out of geomancy? Also, a lot of things that were included in the picture were based on the magic aspect of life. I am a person who strongly places my best interests in magic and know that magic and other spells or magical knowledge of the Supernatural world can be of help to some people ( white magic of course ). I do not understand why this is unacceptable if it can prove so much help to people. How about the divinations in the Tibetan Traditions? ( though I am not sure if that is a livelihood )

The passage you shared comes from pali canon. The buddhism that the historical buddha taught in the pali canon is very different from the theravada and mahayana buddhism that we know.

Ummmmm... the Pali Canon is the scriptural basis for Theravada Buddhism.

"My religion is not deceiving myself."Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

More up-to-date examples might be: avoid working in the arms trade, liquor trade, gambling and wagering industries, and so on (not to mention any illicit businesses). The guidelines offered by ethical investment agencies might be useful. Also Lew Richmond wrote a great book a few years back:

There are also oral teachings, texts like the visuddhimagga, and tantric-like scriptures and practices, which are outside the Pali Canon.

I said: THE BASIS.

And what do you think the Visuddhimagga is based on?

Give an example of the "tantric-like scriptures" found in Theravada Buddhism please.

Also an example of the "oral teachings" not grounded in the Pali Canon would be nice.

Thank you.

"My religion is not deceiving myself."Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

Give an example of the "tantric-like scriptures" found in Theravada Buddhism please.

Also an example of the "oral teachings" not grounded in the Pali Canon would be nice.

Thank you.

The Visuddhimagga still contradicts the Suttas.

Prior to the 1700s it was widely believed in the Theravadin tradition that enlightenment was impossible in the current age. In pre-modern Sri Lanka, Thailand, Cambodia, and Laos, mainstream meditation practices were a primarily oral esoteric tradition called "borān kamaṭṭhāna", sometimes referred to by scholars as "Tantric Theravada". This tradition became heavily marginalized by the modern vipassana movement in Theravada. The Burmese have their own Esoteric tradition aswell, but it unknown if it is related to borān kamaṭṭhāna. The Thai "Dhammakaya movement" is also a modern iteration of that tradition.

The passage you shared comes from pali canon. The buddhism that the historical buddha taught in the pali canon is very different from the theravada and mahayana buddhism that we know.

Ummmmm... the Pali Canon is the scriptural basis for Theravada Buddhism.

That’s what they say.
Just like mahayanists like to say that mahayana accepts all the hinayana… How many commentaries on the agamas were written in china or tibet..?
As far as Theravada goes, like our friend pointed out:

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

It still is now. One can only reach the stage of Arhat, not Buddha, according to Theravada.

I mean liberation.

Was it a Theravada tradition or was it something that existed parallel to the orthodox tradition.

It was the only mainstream Theravada meditation tradition prior to the 1700s.

You mean the Goenka mob? They are also not part of the official orthodox hierarchy/tradition.

No. The vipassana revival movement that began in the 1700s, which includes Mahasi Sayadaw and all the other famous vipassana teachers. To be clear, vipassana ceased to be practiced by mainstream Theravadins prior to the 1700s, monks gave up practicing because they believed the dharma had degenerated to the point where liberation was impossible.

Ummmmmm... The Dhammakaya movement is not a part of the orthodox Theravada movement. Actually, it is opposed by the official hierarchy.

I am aware. The Dhammakaya movement draws from the borān kamaṭṭhāna tradition, but it is not equivalent to it.

It was the only mainstream Theravada meditation tradition prior to the 1700s.

I was unaware of this. Thanks for pointing it out.

borān kamaṭṭhāna: ancient discernment?

I am aware of all the cross-over stuff (especially with the Hindu Ramayana tradition and the pre-existing "animsim") in Thailand since I am a Muay Thai Kru. I was also aware of the post-colonial reformation of Theravada in general. But this is the first time I have heard of the boran kamatthana.

You learn something new every day.

"My religion is not deceiving myself."Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

I am aware of all the cross-over stuff (especially with the Hindu Ramayana tradition and the pre-existing "animsim") in Thailand since I am a Muay Thai Kru. I was also aware of the post-colonial reformation. But this is the first time I have heard of the boran kamatthana.

You learn something new every day.

Something like ancient or traditional meditation/practice, it's also called Yogāvacara.

I am aware of all the cross-over stuff (especially with the Hindu Ramayana tradition and the pre-existing "animsim") in Thailand since I am a Muay Thai Kru. I was also aware of the post-colonial reformation. But this is the first time I have heard of the boran kamatthana.

You learn something new every day.

Something like ancient or traditional meditation/practice, it's also called Yogāvacara.

Do you know of anybody in Bangkok, Thailand that teaches these techniques? I will be there in late May for a Vesak conference and would love to come into contact with somebody practicing in this tradition.

"My religion is not deceiving myself."Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

Do you know of anybody in Bangkok, Thailand that teaches these techniques? I will be there in late May for a Vesak conference and would love to come into contact with somebody practicing in this tradition.

Unfortunately I don't. You should try contacting Professor Kate Crosby who wrote the book I mentioned above, that is her field of expertise.

Do you know of anybody in Bangkok, Thailand that teaches these techniques? I will be there in late May for a Vesak conference and would love to come into contact with somebody practicing in this tradition.

歸命本覺心法身常住妙法心蓮臺本來莊嚴三身徳三十七尊住心
城遠離因果法然具普門塵數諸三昧無邊徳海本圓滿還我頂禮心諸佛In reverence for the root gnosis of the heart, the dharmakāya,
for the ever present good law of the heart, the lotus terrace,
for the inborn adornment of the trikāya, the thirty-seven sages dwelling in the heart,
for the that which is removed from seed and fruit, the upright key to the universal gate,
for all boundless concentrations, the sea of virtue, the root perfection,
I prostrate, bowing to the hearts of all Buddhas.胎藏金剛菩提心義略問答鈔, Treatise on the teaching of the gnostic heart of the womb and the diamond, T2397.1.470c5-8