Watched it a second time, and the incest level makes a little more sense in showing what sent Jimmy circling down the drain.

I want to see Nucky continue to be an unapologetically ruthless bastard.

I want to see Margret fed into a wood chipper. I don't hate her as much as I hate Betty Draper...but she's getting in the same ballpark.

Sadly, Richard Harrow's only possible story line is to go out in a blaze of fuckedup glory. I agree that taking out Eli would be an excellent way to go.

Van Alden going to Cicero, IL will be a factor. That's where Capone first came to real power.

According to Winter, Season 3 will pick up 18 months after the conclusion of Season 2. So that means that Nucky and Margaret have patched through whatever fallout came from her giving the pedophile...er...priest the dead to the land.

Manny is going nowhere, if they stick to history. The real Manny lived into the 40s or 50s.

BTW...with Jimmy being one of the few purely fictional characters, it's not really that surprising that he bought it.

DVR'd it last night, will try to watch tonight. Hoping Season 2 is essentially one Capone killing spree after another, but I'm realistic in the sense that there would need to be a ramp-up for that. Just hoping it doesn't take too long.

"Dammit you piss me off. I f#ckin hate you and I hope you f#cking get killed by a rabid polar bear you douche bag."

Interesting for me in one way. The girl playing Billie Kent, Meg Steedle, is a local girl from here in Greensboro, and there are a lot of people here that I used to do theater with who have worked with her, including a good friend who was her high school drama teacher.

She was pretty awesome in the first show...and a hell of a lot more interesting than Margaret (Kelly MacDonald) is now...but it's a little weird seeing someone you know from when she was 17 getting nekkid on HBO.

Outside of that, I love that they've made Nucky so badass now. I'm also hoping that Van Alden becomes a hood with O'Bannion, because I don't really like him as a sadsack loser.

And Harrow is still the moral center of this show. Love him blowing Manny's head off at the start of the season, after you could see how upset he still is from Angela's murder.

Another good episode last night. More of a table-setter for things to come, especially with Rosetti (who is going to be a great addition to the series). Glad to see the return of Chalky, although I do worry that the disconnect is growing with him in terms of the main storyline of the show. The further Nucky moves away from the political arena, the less reason we have to see Chalky flex his muscle.

"Dammit you piss me off. I f#ckin hate you and I hope you f#cking get killed by a rabid polar bear you douche bag."

Bayou Tribe wrote:Another good episode last night. More of a table-setter for things to come, especially with Rosetti (who is going to be a great addition to the series). Glad to see the return of Chalky, although I do worry that the disconnect is growing with him in terms of the main storyline of the show. The further Nucky moves away from the political arena, the less reason we have to see Chalky flex his muscle.

My hunch is they'll find a way to tie it all back in.

Speaking of Rosetti: "You got a gun. Hey, I got a gun. He's got a gun. Everybody's a got a gun."

Best line of the night. The only question now is if Rosetti is toast at the end of this season, or if they pull a Ralphie and whack him when you're least expecting it sometime in the fourth season. (I'm hoping on the latter)

After tonight, I think while Owen is still the main security guy...Nucky may think about hiring Harrow as an "Independent Contractor" to solve his Gyp problem.

/Agree with Swerb...it's reached great level. I haven't watched Breaking Bad, and I think GOT is also "great", but BE is fastest hour I spend each week. I find myself looking at the clock and going, "Shit...there's only 18 minutes left." And it's a nice way to reset my mood after spending the day pissed about SHUR.

My only problem with the show at the moment is the way the writers have handled Rosetti and "created" this new conflict for next week between Nucky and Rothstein.

Here's why:End of Season Two, Nucky goes "Full Gangster," which means Rosetti SHOULD have been taken care of last week, instead of just being bought off. This plotline would have worked a lot better prior to Nucky killing Darmody because he was only "half gangster."

Rothstein also should have had Lucky take out Rosetti by now. I understand the "nuts and bolts" of what they're doing, but from a storyline perspective, it has been problematic and feels a bit forced.

It almost feels like Nucky killed Rowland as an apology to the fans for not killing Rosetti. (I thought Owen was going to kill Rowland to "prove" something)

That being said, Rosetti is too freakin' fun to kill yet. My hunch is he becomes the Ralph Ciferetto character of this series where you believe he should be killed at least two or three times this season but he somehow lives before getting whacked in a completely unexpected way in Season Four.

Couldn't agree more on Harrow working for Nucky, it's the only logical move for his character at this point, otherwise there's nothing for him to do. Conversely, Jimmy's mom will be dead by the end of this season. There's just no point for her character anymore now that Jimmy and the Commodore are both dead. The few scenes she's been in all have felt "Forced."

Nucky killing Rowland to me was totally his guilt over the mistake of not killing Gyp when he had him in AC. Were several moments in that episode where they went out of the way to show that Nucky knew that their handshake agreement would never hold and that Gyp would continue to cause him problems. And also to show Owen that he means business. Nucky needs Owen more than ever now, and he knows it. Sending a message to him along those lines as well. Killing Rowland (who was looking like he was gonna end up a Nucky capo) also opens the door for him to bring Harrow in the mix to take care of Gyp.

This show right now is as good as anything ever in my opinion. Gripping TV with super rich characters. Led by the Rosetti character, which is a great character. I agree with justmebd ... this guy ain't going anywhere ... he is too good to kill off even at the end of this season.

Also saw this weekend, HBO just inked this show for a 4th season.

With this show and Homeland running at the same time, Sunday nights are back in a way they haven't been since the Sopranos/Wire days.

"It's like dating a woman who hates you so much she will never break up with you, even if you burn down the house every single autumn." ~ Chuck Klosterman on Browns fans relationship with the Browns

The realism of the paperboy getting blasted in the forehead at point blank range was crazy. Would love to know the mechanics of how they filmed that shot.

That whole scene was nuts. Gyp using the hooker as a human shield. The kid lighting up everyone but Gyp (how does that happen?). Gyp's half choked out shocked naked walk through the house after everything went down.

Great stuff.

"It's like dating a woman who hates you so much she will never break up with you, even if you burn down the house every single autumn." ~ Chuck Klosterman on Browns fans relationship with the Browns

swerb wrote:The realism of the paperboy getting blasted in the forehead at point blank range was crazy. Would love to know the mechanics of how they filmed that shot.

That whole scene was nuts. Gyp using the hooker as a human shield. The kid lighting up everyone but Gyp (how does that happen?). Gyp's half choked out shocked naked walk through the house after everything went down.

Great stuff.

Van Alden marrying a Freakin' Valkyrie. This followed by, "I need to dispose of a body."

I think it's been very good, but it's also gotten to the point that Nucky is so bad assed that he's not very sympathetic anymore...much less so than Tony Soprano ever was.

Hopefully, the new, nasty Nucky ends up shooting Margaret and getting her out of our misery (but spare Slater).

We need more Van Alden as a new hood...more Capone...more Chalky...and more Richard Harrow (looks like he may be getting a love interest; good move).

Not sure what's up with Gillian and her boinking the guy that has the same ugly haircut that Jimmy had. About 8 levels of "ick" on that one (somewhat made up for by seeing Gretchen Mol naked again). I'm thinking she has him whacked, and then passes him off as "Jimmy's Body" to allow her to get the house in her name.

I'm now starting to doubt Rosetti will survive the season. I'm running scenarios in my head, and none of them allow Rosetti to survive.

It does seem more unlikely. I see no scenario where Nucky doesn't take out one of the two paizans in these last three episodes. And I don't see it being Joe Masseria that gets offed.

The Gyp character is outstanding though. The clothes, the facial expressions, the sayings ... "I can be flexible." "Not for long ..."

I see Eli being the hero for Nucky to get him through this season. Be interesting to see which way Rothstein goes. Luciano, with the Italian heritage and the meeting from 3-4 episodes back with Joe M. Sides get divided up these next three episodes.

"It's like dating a woman who hates you so much she will never break up with you, even if you burn down the house every single autumn." ~ Chuck Klosterman on Browns fans relationship with the Browns

It is also possible that the series finally ties together east coast and midwest. Where else is Nucky gonna get the fire power? Remember? He got Mellon's distillery and was talking about new markets to the west. Didn't Remus supply capone? The last time we saw Capone I had a supsipcion him and Deaney were gonna scheme to take over Chicago from the old Don. Just a gut. History shows it has to happen some time.

On April 15, 1931, Joe Masseria was assassinated at one of his favorite restaurants, Nuova Villa Tammaro in Coney Island.[3][4]

Gangland legend has it that Masseria dined with Charles "Lucky" Luciano before his death.[4] While they played cards, Luciano excused himself to the bathroom, when Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegel, Vito Genovese, Albert Anastasia and Joe Adonis rushed in and shot Masseria to death, his four bodyguards having mysteriously disappeared. The New York Daily News reported that the boss died "with the ace of spades, the death card, clutched in a bejeweled paw."[4]

We're only in the 20's still, but maybe they take license?

Slater and Maggi seemingly busted in the previews. Ohhhhhhh!!!! Chilllleeeed!!!!!

It is also possible that the series finally ties together east coast and midwest. Where else is Nucky gonna get the fire power? Remember? He got Mellon's distillery and was talking about new markets to the west. Didn't Remus supply capone? The last time we saw Capone I had a supsipcion him and Deaney were gonna scheme to take over Chicago from the old Don. Just a gut. History shows it has to happen some time.

On April 15, 1931, Joe Masseria was assassinated at one of his favorite restaurants, Nuova Villa Tammaro in Coney Island.[3][4]

Gangland legend has it that Masseria dined with Charles "Lucky" Luciano before his death.[4] While they played cards, Luciano excused himself to the bathroom, when Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegel, Vito Genovese, Albert Anastasia and Joe Adonis rushed in and shot Masseria to death, his four bodyguards having mysteriously disappeared. The New York Daily News reported that the boss died "with the ace of spades, the death card, clutched in a bejeweled paw."[4]

We're only in the 20's still, but maybe they take license?

Slater and Maggi seemingly busted in the previews. Ohhhhhhh!!!! Chilllleeeed!!!!!

I doubt the show takes license with the real gangsters as far as their deaths are concerned. There's plenty going on right now with the "real life" events to keep the show occupied. I won't spoil, but one of the gangsters is due to get killed to match his real life execution, a certain major political figure also suffers his final fate, and Remus does continue to play into the current plotline.

It is also possible that the series finally ties together east coast and midwest. Where else is Nucky gonna get the fire power? Remember? He got Mellon's distillery and was talking about new markets to the west. Didn't Remus supply capone? The last time we saw Capone I had a supsipcion him and Deaney were gonna scheme to take over Chicago from the old Don. Just a gut. History shows it has to happen some time.

On April 15, 1931, Joe Masseria was assassinated at one of his favorite restaurants, Nuova Villa Tammaro in Coney Island.[3][4]

Gangland legend has it that Masseria dined with Charles "Lucky" Luciano before his death.[4] While they played cards, Luciano excused himself to the bathroom, when Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegel, Vito Genovese, Albert Anastasia and Joe Adonis rushed in and shot Masseria to death, his four bodyguards having mysteriously disappeared. The New York Daily News reported that the boss died "with the ace of spades, the death card, clutched in a bejeweled paw."[4]

We're only in the 20's still, but maybe they take license?

Slater and Maggi seemingly busted in the previews. Ohhhhhhh!!!! Chilllleeeed!!!!!

I doubt the show takes license with the real gangsters as far as their deaths are concerned. There's plenty going on right now with the "real life" events to keep the show occupied. I won't spoil, but one of the gangsters is due to get killed to match his real life execution, a certain major political figure also suffers his final fate, and Remus does continue to play into the current plotline.