How To Question A Woman’s Past

A.V. Yader flies jets for cash, writes at Return Of Kings for pleasure, and dates American women for pain. He's a stone-cold realist, but one who manages to keep a smile on his face despite the insanity that surrounds him. He's well traveled and aspires to start a family and live a quiet life abroad someday.

After a round of sex between a nonjudgmental man and his wonderful fiancé, a conversation ensues between the two as they lay in bed—cuddling in their post-coital bliss. Let’s observe their little chat…

Man: Wow sweetie, you’re so amazing and wild! So look, we’ve been together for almost two years now and have lived together for six months. Tell me, what’s the craziest thing you’ve ever done in bed?

Fiancé: Oh, I don’t know, I’m pretty shy about that stuff, I don’t want you to judge me either. Besides, nothing could ever compare to you big daddy, hehe…

Man: Aww shucks, don’t be that way sweetheart. We’re best friends! You know that you can tell me absolutely anything without fear of being judged.

Fiancé: Really baby? Are you sure?

Man: Absolutely, cupcake.

Fiancé: Okay! Hehehe [grabs iPhone from the nightstand]… Well, there was this one time where I let six guys take turns cumming inside my butthole and then drove to my ex-boyfriend’s place and sucked a booger out of his nose. Take a look, we’re still friends on Facebook—here’s his picture:

…God, he’s still so fucking hot… By the way, can I borrow 30 bucks?

Boyfriend: Wow… ummm… you know what, sweetheart? I love you and the past is the past, and yes—he seems like a great guy. You two should hang out again sometime and catch up. I’m sure the other six gentlemen that ejaculated into your rectum were quite charming as well. All that matters is that you’re with me now—that’s the only thing I care about. You’re my world. I’ll tell you what, here’s 50 dollars, keep the rest and buy yourself something extra. Don’t worry about paying me back either.

The man in the above story is such a great guy, isn’t he? I, for one, completely agree with him 100 percent. It wouldn’t bother me one bit to take sloppy seconds from the bastard in that picture. After all, the past is the past, and it takes a “real man” to overlook a woman’s dubious history, right?

Let’s cut the shit, right here and right now. There are only two types of people that subscribe to this whole “The past is the past” line of bullshit thinking: people with fucked-up pasts, and people that date people with fucked-up pasts.

Feminism has successfully brainwashed men into thinking that a woman’s history is somehow completely irrelevant. If you were to meet an attractive 23-year-old woman right now, it would be your obligation to ignore the first 23 years of her life as if they never happened. You’re supposed to pretend like she didn’t exist until the moment you met her, or to assume that she was a darling little angel throughout all of those previous years—what a crock of shit.

I’m one judgmental son of a bitch and I make no apologies for it. It’s incredibly important to me to know what kind of woman I’m dealing with, and I want to know as quickly as possible. There are basically three tiers of acceptability women can fall under as far as I’m concerned.

Tier One: Relationship

These types fall under my personal standards for a relationship-material woman. They have no tattoos, no slutting around in their past, and have pleasant and nurturing personalities. They will also answer any questions about their past without reticence. A good girl knows that she’s a good girl, and will speak freely of her experiences or lack thereof. Relationship material women tend to be on the demure, quiet, and shy side as well. It’s important to note that I’m basing my “good girl” experiences on foreign women here.

Tier Two: Fuck Buddy

These women are sluts, but they’re sluts that are enjoyable to be around. They have somewhat pleasant personalities and listening to them talk doesn’t make me fantasize about my own death. Their sexual prowess tends to be very good and they pull their own financial weight when we go out together as well.

I make decent coin and can easily afford all of our outings, but watching a woman pay for shit when she makes significantly less money than me makes me happier than a freshly-sucked dick. And while these women usually have tattoos, they can easily be covered up with normal clothing. This is important to me because I don’t like to feel embarrassed when I’m out in public.

Tier Three: Nail ‘N Bail

These sluts have the types of personalities and mannerisms that would make a trip to the cancer ward at a children’s hospital a pleasant experience in comparison… but if they have big titties that I wouldn’t mind playing with, I might tolerate their shit just long enough to get them into bed. After I nail this type once or twice, I will quickly remove them from my life. However, in the past couple of years, I’ve developed a low tolerance for these broads and have pretty much stopped messing with them altogether.

Now, in order to appropriately categorize a woman, she must be interrogated. American women have hit rock bottom and started digging, so for the most part, I don’t even have to ask anymore. Give me 10 minutes of uninterrupted conversation with the average woman and I’ll know what I’m dealing with pretty quickly from her mannerisms and the way she talks.

With roughly 80 percent of them, I can figure them out quite easily this way. This is the demographic of women that I draw my fuck buddies from. I know what they are and what they’re all about, and therefore I don’t have to question them about their pasts—the relationships will never get serious to the point that I care enough to find out. The problem lies with the remaining 20 percent, it’s these women that think they’re clever and slick that find themselves under the microscope.

Women are pretty good liars, but they’re not that good. They have the allure of their pussies and that’s it. If you’re a sucker for pussy, then you’ll be a sucker for their lies too. If you can maintain a level head and look at things objectively, then you’ll realize their attempts at subterfuge are amateur at best.

This is best handled by dating two women—or more, if you can handle it—at the same time. It would be easy to tell your current boss to go fuck himself on a Friday when you could have a new gig starting on the following Monday. It’s the same way with women. This is important because of the power it gives you. It makes walking away from a woman very easy when you’re not concerned about replacing her. With this in mind, let’s look at the first technique.

Directly Asking

This is the route I take nowadays simply because I don’t fucking care anymore. If a woman passes the initial screening process and presents herself as decent, then I’ll just ask her whatever I want to know. It’s my privilege to know who and what I’m dealing with. If I’m paying for dates or she’s coming into my home—then I want full disclosure. That’s the bottom line.

If you were engaged to a woman and asked for a prenuptial agreement, then “yes” would be the only answer you would find acceptable. It’s the same way when directly interrogating women about their pasts. If there’s any hesitation, or any dancing around the questions, then you have your answer.

If you’re going to take the direct path, then you need to be prepared for some return fire. The woman in question might be offended by your audacity. This is where the shaming language and emasculation attempts may come into play. Here are some common slut responses and how you should properly view their reactions.

“You’re so insecure!”

Yep, I’m so insecure that I will discard you like rotten fish guts and then swiftly replace your ass like a burnt out lightbulb if you think you’re too good to answer my fucking questions. Let’s get something straight here: there is nothing “insecure” about seeking answers to any questions you may have—absolutely nothing. Insecure would be sitting back and wondering what type of woman you’re involved with, but not asking uncomfortable questions because you’re a chicken shit that is afraid of what you might hear.

Repeat after me: “Looking out for my best interests does not make me insecure. Not settling for anything less than what I want does not make me insecure. Demanding to know the truth about someone I’ve been intimate with—or plan on being intimate with—does not make me insecure.”

If a police detective was conducting an interrogation, and the suspect said, “Oh my God, detective, you’re so insecure for asking me what I was doing at 3:00 AM last Thursday,” the detective would be like, “Lady, you’re a fucking idiot.” He’s just doing his job, and that’s exactly what you’re doing—your fucking job. The most important job you’ve ever had at that: the job of looking out for yourself first and foremost. Having the balls to ask tough questions and not being afraid of getting your hands dirty is the complete opposite of insecure.

“Why do you want to know? Don’t you trust me?”

Fuck no I don’t trust you. Why would I trust someone that’s choosing to blow smoke up my ass instead of answering some straightforward questions? And I want to know because there’s a certain caliber of woman that I’m looking for when it comes to a relationship. I get to choose the type of woman I spend my time with—that’s my choice and my choice alone. And if a woman has a problem with that? Well, tough shit, sweetheart—should’ve laid off the dick sauce and made some better decisions.

“All of the guys I dated before didn’t ask about my past!”

Well, all of the other guys you dated were either cowards, weirdos, or fucking idiots. Let’s examine these three types of men in detail.

1. Idiots

There are way too many men out there operating under the strong misapprehension that they are special. Their arrogance is cute—it would even be somewhat admirable if it wasn’t so misguided. They think all of the bad shit in life doesn’t apply to them. They think that no one can fuck better than them, provide better than them, or understand women better than them. They’re under the impression that divorce or being screwed over is something that happens to other guys, and not to such rock stars like themselves—they’re fucking fools.

I fully accept the fact that I’m a pissing, shitting human being. That’s all I am—I’m not special. Being cheated on, lied to, misled, and flaked on? Those things all have and still do apply to me. And being armed with this knowledge that I’m not exempt from all of the bullshit the world has to offer makes me a very discerning and calculating individual.

2. Cowards

These types of men are too afraid to ask hard questions because they only have a woman come along once every so often. Since they don’t want to fuck up their biennial vagina encounter, they keep their mouths shut so they don’t rock the boat and lose out on the trickle of tattered and torn pussy the that so seldom comes their way.

These are the guys that say, “I don’t care about her past.” Of course they don’t care about her past—they can’t fucking care. They don’t have the options at their disposal to care. Their only choice is the slut that’s sitting next to them—that’s all they’ve got. These men are like buzzards—they guard their rotten stinky-ass carcass of a woman like she’s a piece of prime rib. They have to do this because it’s the only God damn meal they’re going to get. These men are exactly like what they desire but can only sparsely obtain—pussies.

3. Weirdos

These are guys that actually like the idea of their women getting nailed by other men. Have you ever stumbled upon one of those amateur porn videos where some housewife is taking a jackhammer-style beast fucking by a group of men in a poorly lit living room? Oh, you have? Well, who do you think is holding the camera and directing that shit-show? The motherfucking weirdo husband—that’s who.

I’m not going to pretend like I know or understand the psychology of these men, but suffice it to say—I’m not into that shit, personally. I think any man that gets turned on by the thought of his woman taking dick from anyone other than himself—either in the past or present—has seriously tripped a brain wire somewhere along the line.

Here’s the bottom line—all of the “other guys” in a woman’s past weren’t me. As a result, I don’t give a fuck about them or what they thought of her. I care about me, what I want, and what I think. Just because some other joke of a man is cool with a past filled with drunken cock consumption and drug abuse doesn’t mean I have to be. I’m smarter than those other guys, and any man reading this right now—that doesn’t have his head up his ass—is smarter than them too.

“Just give me a chance! Let me prove to you that I’m not like that anymore, I was a different person back then!”

This is one of my favorites. Just how long is this “chance” supposed to last? How long will it take for you to “prove” to me that you’re “not like that” anymore? All the way up to the point where the novelty of our relationship wears off and you reveal exactly what I knew you were all along? I’m not thinking about six months down the road. I’m thinking six years down the road, or sixteen years down the road. You know, when you could take my kids, retirement, and other investments through a divorce, perhaps? Out of all the replies you’ll be faced with, this one will be one of the most difficult for you to walk away from.

When a woman says she’s “not like that anymore,” there’s a good chance that she’s being sincere. That’s why you might be tempted to give her a chance—she’s actually being honest when she says it. At that particular moment in time, she actually believes in her own bullshit, and that’s exactly why knowing her past is so important. All of the lip service about how she was “immature” or a “different person back then” is fucking nonsense. Her past is exactly who she is, and she can easily revert right back into being herself once her goals have been accomplished—at your expense, mind you.

Women never really change who they are, they just change what they do, and they only change what they do just long enough to get whatever they’re after. The only way people really change is through deep introspection, self discovery, and a very strong desire to overhaul themselves for the better. Have you met any women that possess those three qualities? Yeah, me neither.

I could write a book on all of the different shit women will say in response to questions about their pasts, but this will have to do in the interests of saving space. Now, directly asking a woman about her past means exactly that—you just ask. Here are some examples of how to take this approach.

Primer Questions

In part two of this article, I will talk about the easier approaches: Appearing Non-Judgmental and Clandestine Measures. For guys that may find what follows a bit out of their comfort zones, those techniques will be much more suited for them. Now, I generally like to preface my interrogation with a feeler question(s). This is to test the waters and see how she reacts—think of it as laying a foundation.

It’s very important to pay close attention to her responses here, and remember to trust your instincts. Remember, anything other than transparency and candid responses to your questions means she’s hiding something. This includes saying things like, “I don’t feel comfortable answering that,” or “Do we have to talk about that now,” and so on.

These lines are to be said “matter of factly” and with confidence. Don’t be timid with this shit. Say it like you’re telling a waiter what you’re ordering for dinner. Have an attitude that says, “I know what I want—you can either give it to me or fuck off.” When asking a woman about her past, you need to prepared for the fact that it could be your last interaction with one another—either by your choosing or hers. With that said, here are some ideas for you to use. I think it’s important to note that I’ve said variations of these lines in my own interactions…

“We’ve gone out a few times and it’s been great getting to know you, but if this is going to go anywhere—I’ll to need to know some things about you.”

“If this little relationship of ours is ever going to progress beyond where it is right now, then I’m going to need to know more about who you are.”

“I value my time and only want to spend it with the absolute best people possible. So far things are going fine, but I still don’t know you well enough to tell whether or not you’re the best. I need you to help me make that clear.”

“So, this good girl act of yours, is it legit or are you trying to charm me?”

If she seems pliable and willing to answer, then ask anything you want to know. How you ask is at your discretion—just be sure to pay attention to eye contact and body language. Another suggestion is to do this when you’ve had a couple of drinks at a bar or other public venue. She will be much more reluctant to cause a scene or act like an idiot when there are people around. It also gives you the chance to get up and leave if you hear something that disgusts you. As always, I recommend sticking her with the entire drink bill if that happens.

In Closing

In the aviation business—pilots specifically—it’s simply not enough to be a good aviator. If pilots hope to be hired by major airlines, major cargo carriers, or land a good corporate gig—then they can’t be fuck-ups in their personal lives. Pilots have a reputation for being drinkers, and this is a reputation prospective employers are well aware of.

As a result, if a pilot has a DUI in the past 10 years, then he’s pretty much screwed unless his daddy is a company executive or the director of flight operations. He also can’t have too many busted checkrides on his PRIA record (especially at the part 121 airline level); even too many speeding tickets can be a deal breaker.

Why do you think airlines, fractional operators, and cargo outfits are so hard on pilots for DUI’s? Easy answer—because drunk pilots are bad for business. Employers know this and act accordingly with their hiring practices. I’m sure many readers have noticed that it always makes the news whenever a flight crew member shows up to work intoxicated. Needless to say, it’s bad for public relations when that happens; not to mention highly illegal and dangerous. A DUI gives employers the impression that these pilots not only put their own lives at risk, but also the lives of others.

Pilots are aware that DUI’s can greatly impact their careers in a very negative way, so what does it say about them if they make the decision to drink and drive? Perhaps it shows that they don’t take their careers seriously, that they’re impetuous and lack foresight, or that they just flat-out have a drinking problem—none of which are good traits for an airman. An employer will ask themselves, “What kind of risks would these guys take with passengers on board?”

I’ve known some great guys that were excellent pilots throughout the years, but they have a DUI on their records. These guys didn’t just make a mistake—they made a decision, and a bad one at that. Their career progression has stalled due to their poor judgment. It’s a competitive market for good jobs in the industry, and there are plenty of pilots that don’t have any blemishes on their records. The ones that haven’t fucked up are the ones that get the good jobs, period.

I’ve also known some great women throughout the years, but their records revealed that they were poor decision-makers or sluts. So guess what? They don’t get the job of being with me. I only hire sluts for temporary positions such as blowjobs or doggy style. The more permanent and rewarding position—that of my commitment—is only open to the absolute best, period.

Airlines won’t hire pilots with checkered pasts, banks won’t give loans to people that are unemployed or have shitty credit, and DMV’s won’t issue driver’s licenses to people with vehicular manslaughter charges on their records. If all of these entities exercise strong judgment in their practices, then why would it be any different for a man and the women he dates?

The answer is simple: there is no fucking difference, and don’t let anyone—especially a woman—ever try to convince you otherwise. Stay tuned.

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“I am the Lord Godess of my own little universe, and I am the supreme deity waiting to enter into your world. No man, child, business, or other woman shall ever take my place. I reserve the right to judge you for every personal, petty, vindictive little thing. But if you ever, ever, so much as judge me for anything, so help me the actual God of the universe, I will destroy you with a false accusation or family court. Hail to the V fool, and buy me dinner now.”

I keep telling myself that these women are facing a peaceful insurrection of male apathy. But who am I fooling? We all know that scarcity mentality, white knight manginas who will lick the spittle of a woman who just 69ed the better man will fight you to their death to protect this little harpy’s right to destroy them, and you.

While in Korea, private snuffy looses his virginity to a Filipino hooker and asks her to marry him and come back to the US. He was willing to overlook everything right in front of his face. Lucky for him she said no.

bollocks to the past… women are whores and you’re the icy cold mother fucking pimp…. in your future is her serving your every need and whim… and hey… if you’re short for rent this month, her time flat on her back at $100 per 1/2 hour, is much better than your blisters from digging the roads at $10 per hour….. in the mean time she’s your private hoe, but it’s going to cost you about the same if not more than the going rate……. unless of course you let her hold down a job, in which case she’s essentially someone else’s whore….. that’s all you need to know….

Yes – good stuff. It also shows why men nowadays have so much trouble challenging those “ex-sluts”. It is a market where the thin even aging sluts are a hot commodity. No wonder that many guys decide to become MGTOWs, since you would either have to settle for an obese monster or a deluded slut – becoming a high-value man with Game takes lots of energy. And yes – it is better to know it all – and judge her to the hilt or you end up like this guy who calls his girlfriend who is just doing a porn-casting:

Whatever you tell yourself. I’m not really from this site, mainly. I just stopped by to improve the quality of some of the red pills here, because that’s what I do.

Neither I, nor any serious man worth anything, has any interest in sticking our dicks in whores. I never have and never will touch such creatures. There is only to be on wife and nothing outside of that, ever.

There’s plenty of men that follow this paradigm. I don’t really care what some arrogant self-described “player” says because I am also a professional warrior.

Perhaps you should think for yourself and put something of your own out there, instead of just complaining, like a woman, about how women are being judged, for being women. Because you sound silly.

What would you do without a government enforcing a whoredom System? It’s an interesting question. But I don’t care to associate with hookers, and no one’s going to make me.

See, this is how it works: Men have have to TRY to get laid. You, all you have to do is check your pulse, make sure it still ticks, and then summon up whatever schmuck you fancy and they’ll come running, The Horsemen arriving wouldn’t even stop them. Just dial-a-dick or point in any cardinal direction and some dork will take the carrot you’re dangling.

Hence, men can’t be sluts. We have to put forth effort, all you have to do is not die (until 40, then it gets really weird for you).

The questions are only relevant if you want kids and are therefore planning to spend the next 20 years with her. Otherwise, all I want is a girl who looks nice, feels nice, I can have fun with and is great in bed. I’m ready to dump her at a moments notice because I know I have choice.

I put women in 2 categories as quickly as possible, short term dating and long term potential. Yes the past matters. A man musts be able to trust a women with his money and his kids. Unfortunately in America, the reality is typical female starts having sex around age 15, and by age 25 had already done it with 25 men, and maybe 1 or 2 women. They are all going to lie if you ask. Or they turn the questions on you and say you have to answer first, then mirror your answers. And those are conservative numbers, that’s your boring sister that you wouldn’t fuck with someone else’s dick. Numbers could very easily be over 50 for a woman over age 30. I try to date foreign women as much as possible, I don’t expect virgins just a woman who didn’t grow up masturbating to radio disney.

Lol, “foreign.” No thanks. There will be no racemixing for me. That reinforces the System. I won’t be touching any whores, either. That means I’ve been by myself for a long time, but I’m not changing for this System.

“I’ve also known some great women throughout the years, but their records revealed that they were poor decision-makers or sluts. So guess what? They don’t get the job of being with me.”

VERY IMPORTANT. If I can summarize your article in two sentences it is that. Pook has said this before. YOU ARE THE PRIZE TO BE WON. Work on becoming that man. And you will be in control of your life by choosing the women who are good enough to be with you.

Pook was the best poster on Don Juan, aka “so suave” forum. This was like 10 years ago. Pick up has evolved since then, but there’s probably still some timeless nuggets to be gleamed from his old posts.

Dang, I had no idea. He was just a guy who posted stuff on a message board back then. His posts always made sense, but I hadn’t read him in years. Whatever happened to him? Did he change his name to Heartiste or something?

Glad you put it first on the list, because Blackened is pretty much my favorite song. Short, tight, and nasty. Like I like my women.

I needed to pick a user name for an account on Kaotic. The hapless bastard in the video had not had a good end to his life, Shortest Straw happened to be playing, and it just stuck. It also fits because I think a lot of men out there pulled the shortest straw.

Great article and enjoyable, this topic comes up with one of my friends at semi-regular intervals. He is of the ”Don’t care what happens in the past” persuasion and I just can’t seem to bring him around. I don’t think he’s fronting either, I think he just does not experience the visceral disgust I feel at the thought of pair bonding with a woman who has been ploughed by a dozen other guys. I figure, like you said, our brains are just wired differently. I’m fairly sure I’m the majority here, but it’s hard to tell with how so many guys will pay lip service to the don’t judge thing because it’s the herd approved correct-think nowadays.

Not by a long shot. In the West it seems they are all damaged goods, and a lot can be said for how it turns up a woman slut meter, but in truth, people are different. Always add the friends’s experiences and divide by the group amount. Solid gauge of a slut. Another thing to do is watch the language. A slut will do her best to avoid telling the truth. A slut will always conform the truth to paint herself the victim. Neither does you any good. If you aren’t talking to another girl or more experienced, you may ignore the signs and say, yeah, pussy. Don’t do it to yourself. But best believe, not all woman are the same. There is a wrong turn called Albuquerque in every woman’s life. Not all will reach it. Once they do, they can’t turn back.

Deshler: You have it right. It is more about you as a man keeping things under control. Any woman you meet has sexual past that you really do not want to know about. Assume that and control the relationship appropriately.

Excellent article. But I don’t know sometimes I like it when a woman tries to game with BS about her past. It tells me a lot about her. It tells me what kind of person she thinks I Am, in that I would want to know, and hear those particular type of lies. It tells me what she cares about, and for what she feels shame and guilt. It’s just part of the Game. I love it !

I think most women are doublethinkers. They hold two contradictory ideas in their minds and somehow reconcile them. Constantly trying to rationalize their slutty behavior while at the same time jingling their pocket full of quarters, tingling with excitement, for their next turn on the cock carousel.

Yes. To become passionate and outgoing, know few women are naturally such. Which increases the odds she is far more socialized than you, and far more sexual than you. You don’t gain command of social situation by reading books at home.

Not at all, it’s a fairly accurate sign of what her sexual temperament is. Most of the time, those kind of dolls will never use deceit, even if they are a “freak”, they”ll just let you know, and if you dig it, you’re on, if not they might friend you if they like you, and if hearing about their sexploits turn you on, they might tell you whatever you want to know.

Also, if you and some future girlfriend crave a 3sum with another broad, she (the extrovert) would probably go for it.

In my experience, this type will still want novel cock periodically, but at least will be upfront about it. They are probably more stable than the types who claim, even with a low n-count, that every bang was either “love” or an alcohol-related incident.

I really like the theme of this article, and agree that the past matters with LTRs. However, does anyone have tips to overcome what I predict will happen to most men that try this except for the few master frame holders…
If its too obvious you care too much, she will instantly slip into lying mode. That stern talking to provided above as an example, will be the time she uses to formulate her ideal past to present to you. By the time you finish with your 2 sentances of why you deserve/require to know, she will have calculated what she can say based on what her social media can not disprove.
Probe into her past in a nonjudgemental way, as early as possible, durring the fun feel good part of the relationship. After that, once she likes you, decided youre ltr material, most of this stuff will not work.
Better to be aware, eyes open, and pay attention to every bit you can.
And for the love of god, NEVER tell her what youre doing. Never tell her what you found out, or what you think of it. One slip and she will become the MASTER of hiding things. I ONE TIME commented on something mildly weird about a photo she liked on facebook. The chick did not like another non non female photo for the next year. Never tagged in any more photos. God damn how i would have preferred never saying anything and still getting access to that data.

That is simple. Field away from answering any questions phrased after your question. A lot of women will search for additional information to provide the most profitable answer. Don’t waver and offer assistance. Ask your question and STFU. If she doesn’t answer in 5 minutes except to ask a question, she is a slut and mining you for the appropriate answer. Walk away as soon as possible. Or date at your own peril.

The 5 minute thing makes me think you mean via text, which I wouldnt do. In person the tells are much more obvious. Heck, as the article says, even the slight hesitation to answer, IS your answer. After that moment, id expect mostly lies. OR, you have independent-womanTM and shell tell you proudly, at which case you can atleast thank feminism for helping that women reveal themselves.

From someone who has lived by this code, I meant in person. Never ask over the phone because now, you’ve given her chance to research. 5 minutes is perfect. If she avoids for five minutes, run, get tested and don’t look back. The first minute is a giveaway for honest and dishonest women. If they need a cover story, she will use the first minute. Don’t waver when you ask. Be as cold as a convict. No excuses and no pleasantries. Just facts. And keep a stern face. Also why I said, STFU.

I agree, in person, followed by silence. this may work because the silence is so uncomfortable for people they tend to do what you ask/speak their mind. Im in direct sales and the whole “ask and them stop talking, first one who talks loses” has proven itself true more times than not.

Yea, I was dating a girl that every time I’d probe her past, always face 2 face, she’d pretend she was busy all the sudden or forgot to do something like put clothes in dryer or had to piss, or you name it. Clearly to think up the best answer (lie) because no woman can lie about everything and get away with it all the time. When she was done pissing I’d restate the question and she’d have some bullshit answer, but it really should be automatic.. like 5-10 sec or less when the response begins. Otherwise its a fuckin lie. Guaranteed.

I sincerely doubt that you are getting any truthful answers. It is closely held lore in lady land that the correct answer to the question of how many men have you slept with is always three. Enough to show you have some experience and skill, not enough to appear loose. Over the age of 25 or so until death, a lady’s answer will be three unless she is 1) actually a tramp with no pretense (I.e. Dumber than a box) or 2) a religious zealot, in which case you are not likely to find her at a bar or club. Good luck to you, sir!

I think the ladies have loosened up to promote a safe five. In truth though, more women are revealing their numbers unprompted. In that regards, it is clear being a ‘lady’ holds little weight in way of equality. Especially when you can bully those who oppose what you’re saying.

I’ve heard, 5, 10, 3, and over 30, all from women under thirty. Maybe the ladies aren’t meeting with these women?

I had two young women, both under thirty give me an answer that was in the twenties. I had a twenty-something coworker tell me point blank that she was a slut before she got married. My answer is an honest two, but don’t men like experienced women who know how to get them off? Plus, won’t guys like you guys not believe us anyway? I have started to believe myself that promiscuous men are as damaged as their female counterparts. Both groups do not respect themselves as people, or their bodies or the sex act itself. If you believe in God, then you are also showing a lack of respect for Him. I learned the hard way that sex to me is sacred. I will not pursue it anymore. It has become corrupted.

” I had a twenty-something coworker tell me point blank that she was a slut before she got married.”

And the only reason she was honest was because she had a ring on her finger. If she was still trying to lock down some poor bastard I highly doubt she’d be admitting that to anyone, including the said poor bastard who was presumably unaware of her past.

“My answer is an honest two, but don’t men like experienced women who know how to get them off?”

That depends on the man’s purposes. Review the article above, and how it breaks women up into categories: (a) possible relationship material, (b) casual fucks, or (c) potential one or two-night stands.

In category (b) or (c), sexual experience is the main drawcard since the man’s never going to enter into a long term relationship with her and it’s about how good the fuck is. Little emotional investment arises.

In category (a), extensive prior sexual experience is a much less valuable pro — primarily because of all the other cons that invariably accompany the pro, from sexual diseases to prior children to, most importantly, a diseased if not mercenary attitude towards the man. Look up an article on ROK called “You can’t turn a whore into a wife” for more discussion on this concept.

In women, extensive sexual experience is always paid for with a concomitant erosion of worldview and personality. Hard as they try, the vast majority of women cannot separate their self-image and self-esteem from their promiscuity (or rare lack thereof). And most women who shout from atop mountains of “conquered” penises that they’re empowered, independent, and strong are generally anything but. It’s simply something they say to deal with the cognitive dissonance emanating from those psychological and biological parts of therm that are calling out to her to find a partner and be a mother.

Men are much better at dealing with it, but this site is not about trying to fuck men. (Indeed I find it consistently amusing that the first defence women seem to run to on these sorts of issues is “WHAT ABOUT THE MENZ?”)

If you are placing such value on those (men and women) who are not promiscuous, the question that remains is why do the male sluts feel they are worthy of a nonslutty woman? I mean the chances are pretty good that while you are carelessly exposing yourself and the women you hook up with to disease and other negative consequences , you too are also damaged goods. Why not just boink all the sluts and buy yourself a subservient virginal foreign bride who will be your servant or just get a blow up doll? Isn’t that sad? You can’t crap on a buffet table and then ask why the food is so shitty? I think the reason you have no respect for women that have slept around is because in sleeping around yourself you prove you have no respect for yourself but rationalize it by saying that there are reasons men should have a higher notch count than women before marriage …How many notches you have in your belt is not an indication of your being a real man. It is not even close to the top of the list. . Noone with any self respect likes their partner to have been a slut, male or female. Making excuses for slutty and irresponsible behavior by men or women is laughable at best and at the same time, sad.

EDIT………by YOU, i didn’t mean you, specifically, Shep, I mean you as in the men who feel this way.

Typical response right here. I’m going to assume you’re an older woman — one that hasn’t the foggiest fucking clue about what dating is like for millenials and younger gen X guys.

Here’s the deal, I’m a man and I need sex. Sure, there are guys out there that are content with snapping one off every night to porn and calling that a sex life – I’m not one of them.

So what are my choices, exactly, infadelicious? I assume this is where you’re going to come back and tell me that I should date “good girls” and seek those kind of women out, correct? I’ll save you the effort of that response and go ahead and give you my reply to that statement – go fuck yourself. Head over to the tattoo and piercing article and peruse the comment section for a while and see what’s out there – those broads are what we have.

My choices are to either get laid through my current means and through what’s available to me, or not get laid at all and become celibate while searching out some mythical American good girl – going years without sex in the process.

Here’s the deal lady. You’re not a fucking man. You don’t have a dick, and you don’t get to tell me what it’s like to have one. You don’t get to tell me what my options are because you have no idea.

yawn… you deserve the type of trashy women that you are getting. Enjoy. Don’t keep damaging yourself and more women and in doing so crapping on the buffet and wondering why your food selection is so shitty. I didn’t tell you what your options are, you are the one setting the low standards for your options and you are getting what is available in that category. Any snake hole will do for your type and that is indeed your choice. That wasn’t my point.. I am sorry you have issues with your inability to control your impulses. There are plenty of sluts out there to “satisfy” you, and hopefully you’ll not damage your “goods” too much with anything permanent, but have a good time, just don’t complain about there not being any “worthy” virtuous women out there to choose from when your body starts giving out and/or you want to settle down with a “good one”… You’ll be one of those sad, chubby balding men that has to buy a “good wife” ie: subservient foreign housekeeper/sex slave….. Save your insults, i was merely expressing my opinion that those slutty, possibly diseased damaged men really can’t expect to be considered a “prize” just as the same type of woman can’t. I am entitled to that even if you think it worthless. If it hit a nerve with you that’s your issue to deal with. Man up and admit that the pool of decent men out there is just as small as the one of decent women, but imo it’s sad that you can have sex with someone that you wouldn’t be seen with in public. And you can shove the whole I am a man and need sex bs, that’s more rationalizing behavior that you engage in but find repulsive when done by a woman.. Just as I won’t tell you how to feel as a man, don’t begin to tell me about how i as a woman, feel about sex or anything else.

Well for starters, a lot of the men posting here are trolling bars and other places looking to “hook up ” easily with no strings attached, which is cool, have at it, but at the same time they are complaining about the quality of the women they are screwing. Is it really a notch worth bragging about to have sex with someone who is just as loose as you are? Yikes. These are bottom of the barrel women (to NOT use their descriptions and put it politely instead) whores that they wouldn’t be seen with in daylight yet they would have sex with them putting themselves and future ‘scores” and maybe girlfriends/wives at risk for all manner of disease and dangers . Women they consider repugnant and nasty because they supposedly engage in the same type of behavior as the men do.

Please point out where I used “spotless, untarnished” — I didn’t. My point was pretty clear. I realize there are no spotless untarnished maidens but I was asking why tarnished spotted men felt they were worthy of the spotless untarnished maidens if they were to finally find one. It would seem they are getting exactly the type of women they are wanting and deserving of. Why complain then? Again,you can’t keep crapping in the buffet line and wonder why the food tastes shitty, yes? That is all. No big deal. My question was answered above. I thank you too, for your civil reply and question.

“If you are placing such value on those (men and women) who are not
promiscuous, the question that remains is why do the male sluts feel
they are worthy of a nonslutty woman?”

For alphas, I’d say it’s because they feel men don’t need to prove their worthiness to any woman. Or any man. They have sufficient self-esteem not to have to justify their choices to anyone except themselves.

For betas, it’s a different matter – but betas are basically society’s bitches right now and need every selection tool they can lay hands on to try and find a partner who will not fuck them over, 2 kids and a mortgage down the line.

I’m lost why this escapes women. Maybe it’s defensiveness: They are feeling shamed for something that is a natural impulse.

Men seek to pair bond. Less so than women do, but they have a strong urge to nonetheless, as the existence of this blog indicates.

One important criteria for a woman with whom we might pair bond is fidelity. After all, we don’t want to invest in raising children that are not our own. Promiscuity is a good indicator of future infidelity.

The woman, on the other hand, is less concerned with where else the man might leave his sperm than with whether he will stick around to protect and provide for her and her children. She is more concerned with whether he is pair bonding with someone else.

Male promiscuity is even a positive indicator, as it demonstrates sexual desirability, which the female is going to want for her sons.

The first principle in understanding all this stuff is to nothing – at least nothing that is pervasive – is a social construct. We’re wired to do the things we do. There is an obvious difference between the genders: Women make babies and men don’t. This is not a social construction, so why wouldn’t there be a whole slew of other innate differences? To argue that there aren’t just seems bizarrely naive.

Tip : next time a women with a brain ( clearly something you try to avoid) tells you something you don’t agree with just walk away because you clearly can’t agree to disagree like adults do and it’s embarrassing to see you have a hissy fit. : I am not one of your brainless notches. I get you loud and clear though. If you can’t force your view on someone they are put into your ‘thinks like a child ‘ category. Sorry but again I am not a notch and can think for myself. I don’t fall to pieces if insulted by someone who can’t handle another person who has a different view on things. We’re all entitled to our own opinion. You just don’t like mine and have to attempt to silence me with insults. As for men not liking to talk to me? You don’t even know me. I asked one little question and a very classless author got his panties in a twist and assaulted me with a vulgar, knuckle dragging blast of bs. I expected it from him. Then you come on, seeming reasonable at first but then started acting all butt hurt merely because I didn’t buy your rationalization. Wow ! For two guys that are so secure in your sexuality and promiscuity you sure are defensive. I didn’t condemn you for it I just asked the question. It was answered already. Let it go. Sheesh. Laters –

You never have to qualify your writing for me.
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After I was divorced I obtained a few too many notches myself. To this day I am amazed that as dark and consumed as I was, women were still interested and even pursuing me.
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After I calmed down I realized that I could obtain as many notches as I wanted. There came a point where it was kind of a nuisance to go out and get another notch.
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We’ve talked before about my deliberate decision to find a wife. That is when I began my search. Once I knew what I wanted it took a couple hundred first dates to find the right woman. The ‘Boss’ never threw up a red flag while we were dating, and I have never asked her about her past.

Sometimes I forget the huge difference in those who have become men like you and those who are in between boyhood and what they will become as they try to sort out what makes a man. They are whining about the whore-ible selection of women while they are trolling the dregs of society which kind of makes them the dregs as well. Their goal right now is to find easy skanks and nail as many as they can. That’s fine and dandy for a while and hopefully they escape it unscathed, but clearly they are admitting it is lacking something or why do they always end up talking about finally getting someone “worthy” of them. They will never meet anyone of quality in the places they are looking. They are looking for easy hookups with no strings attached and there are plenty of them out there, If they’re just out to get laid, they should quit bitching about the type of women they get and the lack of quality ones left for them, the “real men” who deem themselves so worthy.
They complain about them in the same paragraph that they brag about adding another notch -one i might add that was easy for the first 30 guys before him and will be for the next 30. Ewwwww I read a few more today and they were so juvenile and I laughed so hard out loud that i couldn’t even be offended anymore. They are fooling themselves . They beat their chests and say “I AM THE PRIZE TO BE WON” and ‘I AM THE MAN’ OMG! Really? Any woman of quality would yawn in the direction of a boy like that. A real man doesn’t have to say he is a prize or even say that he is a man. He just is. If you try too hard, your desperation will stink up a room pretty fast and is a natural repellent to any good woman.
One guy on here even tried to tell me what a woman wants for her sons- for them to be promiscuous because that equals desirability.. Really? No mother or father I know wants their son sleeping with the neighborhood floozie lest her son get stuck with unwanted fatherhood or disease. The difference between popular and promiscuous seems to escape some guys. Frankly, it matters more where someone is right now and where they are going. They should work a little more on what’s between their ears rather than what’s between their legs.
It sounds like you and your wife ended up finding “keepers”. Good for you .;-) Like I said before, in my next life i’m coming back as a cat or dog and living in (and running) Shep’s house. 😉 Shep and Leonard told me it’s a pretty sweet gig.

The masculinist movement forming at ROK has not yet gelled into a consistent set of principles. When it does the misogynists will fall along the wayside or be pushed out by force.
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I’ve studied Morton Blackwell and seen mass based movements form both in our country and in Latin America. This site has all of the hallmarks of the start of a legitimate grass-roots movement.
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This website terrifies the Left because they sense that it is one of the rare exceptions among movements. They had nothing to do with Astro-turfing its start, they have no control over the ideas or direction of the movement, and worst of all, they cannot integrate it into their larger social deconstruction of the West.
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I will continue to watch this movement with great interest. It needs to be led by young men. It makes me wish I was a young man again.

Yes, they will be forced out and shunned just as the misandrists that make up the majority of feminists are now shunned by womennow asit has become clear neither group do much to improve the appearance or the lot of men or women or for that matter society as a whole. I have always said the majority of men on here are just looking for a place to either vent or to talk amongst themselves without being beaten down by feminazis and leftists who have clearly made it open season on the traditional male. That being said I still like to come here and invade their space, mostly just reading and appreciating their opinions and views on topics and sometimes i am nicely surprised that lo and behold i was right– men really are human despite what those feminazis have been trying to brainwash us into believing. I don’t come here really meaning to lock horns with any of you, unless absolutely necessary or I am really bored . LOL Fiddle dee dee, (bats eyelashes innocently while holding verbal drop point knife)

Good readable article as always. However Red Pill guys will not need to resort to questions. It’s all so painfully apparent who one is dealing with via casual non verbal observation. And lets not forget the men who were taken to the cleaners 10 years down the road by a “Virgin good girl wife” turned bad.Buyer beware…..

The way I see it, it’s just sex.
Sex alone ( or the number of partners) isn’t telling the whole story. Some girl with a low lay count can easily be the most psychotically deranged person you’ll ever met…

Why do we always strive and fight for the sexually “purest” girl possible? Especially on a blog like this that celebrates guys that get high n counts for lays? Not only are those girls terrible lays, they will also get clingy since you’re one of the few guys to get with them. And you’re lying to yourself if you think you can find that attractive 20-something that had only been with <10 guys and something isn't wrong with her.

I'm a guy and I've banged 30+ girls. The only thing I really see with girls with high number counts is either:
1) Emotionally unstable (Can't keep a guy worth a damn, only good for sex…)
2) Use sex as a means for an end (gold digger, divorce rapist, etc. These are the kind that are all take and hardly any give)
3) Genuinely likes sex and cares about their partners. ( I'll admit the second part is a stretch here in America)

3 is rare, and 2 is way too common nowadays. Provided I get to bang whoever I want in the relationship, and they aren't a manulipitive psycho, I really don't see the problem with a woman that's been around the block.

And that the higher number count of a woman is an indicator of future infidelity, plus the experience of many partners for a woman deludes them to think there’s something better to get. Why? Cause she’s already had it, someone richer, bigger, lasts 4 hours, will dominate, etc. Their hamsters think they deserve the best, too bad I’m really the best and already dumped her.

Most of the guys on here are wishing for a return to a mystical version of yesteryear in which girls were pure and lost their virginity on their wedding nights. That never really existed, and it never will. Keyboard warriors who have been shunned by women their entire lives, would love to return to that easy life of one man, one woman. The reality is, by most definitions, any woman over 22 is a slut, and a man should never get married in the modern age, so why even bother with these questions.

If it’s just sex, then why do so many women lie about their partner count? To sum it up, too many women are unpaid prostitutes… And that first sentence is why society has fallen. Nothing is sacred anymore…

The problem with that argument is there is a core vortex. Everyone needs that core filled. So for a man, without a strong value behind hard work, core values, and a sense of self beyond a partner, finding a woman who shares his values and ideals as well as seems a solid pairing is high on the list. When said woman appears, she can fill a void. She can also lead him off a cliff easily. A majority of men aren’t taught about embracing your own ideals and get caught in the consumerism/materialism whirlwind that is America. A high value guy typically, is cunning, intelligent, can find means to provide for himself and has a hhigh level oof social flair. No coincidence that this man will get access to a lot of sex and a higher notch count. Women shop around but some keep it within the range of thhe ‘safe number’ and others are burning rubber faster than any Nascar driver could dream of. The reason to lie is simple, they want a partner.

I won’t elaborate too much more on why plenty is wrong with society as the widening of wealth, the riise of single parents, the level of sex and gun assaults, the dropping levels of male graduates, the rise in unmarried couples, and a few other areas could draw out, something is wrong with American society. Will blaming society solve thhe problem? No. But not being able to admit their is a problem or simply stopping at the thought of this being America’s problem and not mine, will only continue the course we are on.

At this point, if a site like here develops solid definitions of manhood, patented rules of success and areas in real life that can allow men to meet unencumbered, a major shift in this tide will occur. The idea of simply being a better man to solve this problem should be killed from your mind? Do it now. Here. I’ll hand you the gun with one bullet. There you’ll have the dignity of watching that dream die in grace. The valuable pairing has received multiple assaults and as society has promoted a world safe for debauchery and shameless usage of people, men need to come together to form a counter community to slap the shameless behavior and debauchery out of our sphere.

Remember, even as a high value man, you battle, the many men still in her mind from her past, her friends and their lives, the control materialism and consumerism has on her, the morals her parents taught her, the strength of the father in her life, the degree and time spent pursuing a career, the collection of beliefs she embraces, her ability to assist in creating a space conducive for relationships and what society says is cool. We are on the fridge. Outliers amongst men. Do what you can but know the problem is bigger than being the superior man.

Both genders need to bring something to the table. Good quality of mind body and soul. Nothing is wrong with society? Are you blind? I suggest you Google Chris Mackney, read his story and multiply that by 100. The foundation of our country has been severely fractured. The foundation is the family. We are plagued by diseases. Morality is in the toilet…. People are more lost then ever…

…lotta amateurs. If you’re not debating a long-term situation, who fucking cares. Besides, if you’re on here, you’ve probably got a few miles on yourself, how the fuck are you gonna make demands that you don’t even begin to meet yourself?

I dunno, the same way broke ass women feel no shame in wanting a successful man, the same way all women want a courageous man even though they’re a bunch of gutless cowards themselves, etc. It’s almost like different sexes are different and prioritize different things. Weird right?

If I’m buyin a car, I wanna know where its been. if I’m getting a rental I could almost give a fuck. I tend to be hard on my toys so I usually “rent”, and therefore don’t give a fuck if she has…traffic tickets or whatever this guy is on about.

I agree that a womans past is very important. In fact I like to see a woman who has been through some shit. However its BS to say that people can’t change. People change when they have enough of a reason to change,I’ve seen it countless times. Take the case of Sam Walton. He had major constant failures in business, didnt even start Walmart until he was in his forties. By the authors logic no one should have bet on him ever. Then he became the richest man in the world. Its also a mistake to assume that a woman who has never made a mistake, never will. To me whats more important is the current character and behavior of a woman, and your own ability to influence her character. No woman is perfect, but if you can either tolerate her imperfections or convince her to change them, you’ve got a successful relationship. Improving your ability to influence a woman will earn you long term benefits more than finding the “Perfect” girl.
Oh and what is this direct questions nonsense? Good police interrogators don’t trust direct answers, they ask around the edges and ask again later and compare results. If she feels like you are judging her on her response she is more likely to lie. If she feels like you aren’t judging her, she is more likely to tell you the truth.

I can’t remember who it was, but someone on here once pointed out that such ”changes” happen with suspicious regularity once a woman approaches 30. I’d perhaps be prepared to listen to the ”I’m not like that anymore” speech if it came from a 23 year old, still at peak attractiveness. Otherwise? Sorry, I’m just going to assume you’re trying to cash out of the marketplace on my dime. No, I’m not going to bother considering that you might be the one in a million who this doesn’t apply to. I get one life, I’m not going to spend it making bad-odds gambles for the benefit of others.

A 23 year old with a great attitude trumps a 30 year old with a great attitude(all other things being equal). And if I have a choice I pick the former, if I don’t then the latter. If I’m 60 do I need to be concerned that she is starting to hit the wall? The “Im not like that” speech is again taking statements at face value. Look at the clues she says, look at her actions and look at her past-if you have experience in life you will see through all of her lies.

Well obviously any discussion of this assumes that a man is choosing a life mate, not trying to get whatever tail he can before he kicks it. I’m talking about if I’m considering making an actual investment.

Whatever age you are at can get you into life mate situations. My grandfather’s first wife only brought him misery. He fell in love at 73 and lived 19 wonderful years with her. He didnt mind at all that she had hit the wall two or three times. When she died, he died very shortly after..I don’t think he wanted to live anymore. It is unfortunate that marriages are so high stakes now, a woman can steal your money and your children from you through no fault of your own.

Forbes ranked Sam Walton as the richest person in the United States from 1982 to 1988, ceding the top spot to John Kluge in 1989 when the editors began to credit Walton’s fortune jointly to him and his four children.

AV8R I enjoy you articles ver much. This one seemed to be a tad emotional on several fronts. The first part: I know that what you wrote wat what one would be thinking in such a situation. Although, ones words should be fewer. Such as, “you’re insecure”. “Don’t give a fuck. If you don’t want to answer you know which door you came through.”

“You don’t trust me?” Nope. Now answer the question.

And so on. What you said about being absolutely prepares to cut a women off if she doesn’t answer is the best advice. Never be afraid to loose a bitch.

Those primer questions are so insecure. Ask the woman what you want to know. Obliviously wait for the most opportune moment, but there’s no reason to pussyfoot around about it.

Last while you touch a great deal on verbal communication, body language is more important. For example, what are her eyes doing? Are they darting around failing to make eye contact? What about her hands and feet. Is she figiting? Chances are if she is she’s hiding something, the way she positions herself will tell you in ten seconds into the conversation whether she is being honest or dishonest.

While I thought this post might have been satire at first it contains much wisdom and introspect.

Fina-fucking-ly. Someone who spouts the truth about this without pussy-footing around. Back in my purple pill days, I thought something was wrong with me, for caring so much. I’d read the typical leftoid feminist rhetoric ‘it doesn’t matter, the past is the past, just becasue she cheated on her last boyfriend and has swallowed 50 litres of cum from different guys in the past year doesn’t mean a thing’. Tainted bitches be damned. New found respect for Return of Kings. We need more guys like this and Quintus Curtius writing posts, and less guys explaining for the 10000000th time how foreign women are better.

IN a study they asked 5000 People to rate life events on a scale of 1-500 in order of their stress level, there were 50 “life events” studied and rated

Guess which one caused the most grief?

Relationships, and the most committed ones caused the most grief of all, with the #1 ranking grief, divorce

We have been sold a massive CROCK about relationships in this demented culture!

Just like sugar tastes sweet but is toxic to the body, so is a relationship to the soul, accept the bitter sobering truth, or consume the sweet poisonous lie!

If relationships are so important to our well-being, why do studies suggest they cause the most misery of all, and also why can’t millionaires with the aid of the best relationship experts in the world make it work? Why can’t humans bond in the best of circumstances, when money is not even an obstacle? Reason: CROCK.

Why can’t successful businessmen, and high achievers avoid relationship failure? and what makes you so arrogant to think you are the exception?

-Loneliness is a bitch fellas, but it can’t be cured by a bitch, not for long and without a ton of resources, risk and headache and it only gets harder as you age, your energy levels drop and access to only large dry cunts is attainable

the male phallus remains the same, while the female twat simply enlarges every year in an exponential fashion, as the female twat enlarges, it collects more semen from more and more partners exponentially, therefor becoming a higher risk, lower reward pursuit exponentially, eventually even causing roosh to throw in the towel as with his visionary ability, he did not see himself doing this at 40 IMO,

That’s right, High risk,Low reward. Big headache, Small win

-Everyone thinks of themselves as the clever exception in all circumstances according to studies.

Hey AV8R, if you’re such a good fucking pilot and constantly seek the truth, why don’t you let us in on what “they’re” spraying on us in the skies. Because as far as I’m concerned, Chemtrails Make Liars and Traitors Out of All Pilots. Or maybe that’s part of the reason you make such good coin? Maybe that’s why so many pilots drink?

Know why pilots drink? Cuz they HAVE to go to the bar; otherwise no one can see their flightsuit/ pins/ “fuck-me-I’m-a-pilot” t-shirt! Its like the crossfit of occupations…they’re the shit, just ask ’em!

I have ZERO respect for modern pilots for 3 main reasons: 1) large commercial jets completely fly and land themselves (and have for quite some time); 2) pilots are in a tremendous position to better expose and collaborate the phenomenon of Chemtrails, but don’t, because their employment / pension would be terminated; and 3) they are also are in a great position to shed light on the so-called “UFO” phenomenon, but don’t for fear of losing jobs / pensions. As such, ALL PILOTS HAVE BECOME LIARS and TRAITORS, complete pussies who whore themselves for a pretty good paycheck and “fringe benefits” with women. Plus, 90% are arrogant pricks… Just my 2 cents and sorry to piss on your little parade AV8T — I’m sure you’re the exception…

Women fuck bad boys / alphas when they’re young. You’ll know if you’re an alpha or not before you even hit 18 because women will want to fuck you. If you’re 25+ and still haven’t even received a kiss / an advance from a woman, then you might as well just die single. I’m serious.

Women know exactly what they want when they’re young and are more than capable of getting it. Then once they aren’t capable anymore, they find some beta bucks to support them.

If you haven’t figured this out by the time you’re in your early 20s, you’re either an idiot, or you’re so beta that you never received any attention from females at all and so you pedestalize them as angels by default because you have never seen what they are capable of.

Some won’t even do that – they keep the price high on something that’s past the sell-by date.

Even if they do think they’ll get a beta provider later in life, who’s that going to be? The guy kicked out of his house after a divorce, up to his ass in child support and alimony? Because that describes a significant number of what’s out there for the women who wait too long.

Yep…good point. But I have a feeling that is why society (and feminists) have started the narrative about how women are much better later in life (i.e. cougars). They are targeting more younger men who will still have resources versus an older, divorced guy paying out alimony and child support. Good points, though. Some of this shit, today, is just wrong.

“I think the light comes on for women when they hit “the wall” and the attention stops coming (and it’s directed at the new, younger models).”

They are reasonably pleasant until 30. Then they go through this 5 year period where they think they’re still hot like a 22 year old. Many have been spoiled by the times in their 20’s rendering them meaner than a dog shitten tacks. Then the entitlement & jealousy set in. After about the age of 35, or so, they come to terms with nature & reality & become somewhat pleasant again.

Ugh…some do become pleasant, again, and some don’t. I see many marry after that age only to still be bored or angry (with their choice in life). Many still believe they “have it” like they did when they were in their 20s and they hate younger women for it.

I married young, and my Wife didn’t have a rep. around the small college we went to. She said “only one before me”. Come to find out many years later that she had a really fucked up definition of what sex is.

Even if you have done your due diligence and are confident with what she says, triple it at least. Their fucked up female perspective/rationalization will get you, especially the ones that think of themselves as “good girls”.

So many people my age need to read this. I can never view women the same after the shit me and I know others do with them. It’s always hilarious see an ex fuck buddy with some pussy faggot as if she’s been a princess all her life.

I feel the problem is there aren’t enough real men teaching kids how to be men. My father wasn’t there for me so I had to learn the hard way, however a lot could be avoided if men just acted like men.

Men realize at the end of the day, nobody can be trusted and you’re all alone in this world. You have to make a name for you self, nobody is going to hand you shit.

most of the women at my college were sluts. the biggest sluts though have the best marriages. is what it is. many a gal has been thru a basketball team yet tones it down once married. but when I go to my college reunion weekend, amazing how these married types (good+bad gals) r back to sucking every dick like old X!
as for foreign chicks, check out eddie murphy’s take on the subject in delirious.. they’re only pure til they get “Americanized”.. sluts r here to stay, going nowhere, its mainstreamed whoredom!

Not all men are cut-out for a life of peace, quiet, loneliness & solitude. Some require that female companionship as my father does & some dream of a life with a big family. I thank God with each passing day that I can live a life where I don’t desire a child, a roommate or a girlfriend. Although I will admit, having a nice looking girl in a semi-dating relationship is very invigorating for the first 4 months or so.

I think each man should think of himself as the stock market. Each passing day you are not married & have no kids, your stock goes up. So why would you sell that stock? If you’re a man who wants to have children & devote himself to 1 woman, ok, sure, whatever. But I would advise to plan this for sometime at the age of 40 & after a pre-nup assuming you own property, make decent money, planning a child, ect.

You contradict yourself. On one hand you say “Being alone is really not that bad”…”you can really just learn to live for yourself.” And on the other hand “If you’re 25+ and still haven’t even received a kiss / an advance from a woman, then you might as well just die single.”

I’m a kissless “such a nice guy” virgin approaching 25, building a successful business, planning to intensively work out once I get everything under control, and learning about game and red pill in the meantime. So why should I die single? Within 5 years I’ll be a millionaire shredded alpha, and within 15 I’ll have a trophy wife, with a prenup of course.

Today’s teens have unlimited means of entertainment and megatons of porn at their fingertips. That, coupled with feminism, doesn’t really make one want to rush into the dating game like a desperate, sex-starved dog.

So look man, I’m as he-man-woman-hater as anyone here, but don’t lets become hypocritical; just like we would ridicule a woman for being fat, mouthy, entitled, unemployed, and still expecting a top-quality man, for anyone here to be anything less than top-quality yourself while expecting a young, hot, charming, low-mileage woman is just fucking retarded. Even worse, looking down your nose at any woman with half the notch count you yourself have is kinda bush-league. You can say you ain’t interested, you can say you wanna step up, but don’t act like you’re above it all just cuz one day you decided you were; that’s about some pilot-shit right there.
I mean hey, I fuck like they’re gonna outlaw it tomorrow, so if I wanna make a move on what I perceived as a very high quality woman, this chick is well within her rights to have an issue with my previous…endeavors, and I gotta be prepared to accept that. Same way, some chick with high mileage might very well have turned some kinda corner and wanna pursue me as a reasonable match. I could certainly say I wanna hold out and try to score something really nice, but to say “ohhhhh I’m above being seen with any woman who behaves half as bad as I do”….that’s some hamster-caliber bullshit and it won’t do.
In short, if you’re gonna roll like a pig that’s fine, just don’t get all pissed when you don’t have a silk hat.

“Even worse, looking down your nose at any woman with half the notch count you yourself have is kinda bush-league.”

Stupid feminist argument. Female promiscuity and Male promiscuity don’t implie the same personality traits at all.
Any average woman just has to bend over to get 10 men.
A man who gets 10 women, is guaranteed at least to have done a bit of work on himself, and to have a minimum of strategical social thinking and self confidence.

Again : A key that opens many locks is a master key, yet a lock that is opened by many keys is a shitty lock.

…not talkin exclusively about promiscuity, because yeah, that a woman just needs to maintain a pulse to be a slut, a dude’s gotta put his back into it. Point is, all this howling about “I demand top-quality and anything else is shit”. Well, Are YOU top quality? How do you figure you DESERVE what you’re demanding. Just cuz you woke up and decided one day that you’re the shit? THAT is a feminist argument; you don’t magically get what you want just because you want it.

‘Just cuz you woke up and decided one day that you’re the shit? THAT is a feminist argument; you don’t magically get what you want just because you want it.’

women tell themselves and their fellow women not to settle because of “oh how so precious we all are”. Meanwhile some men privately tell themselves that they’re the shit and then openly tell their fellow men “dude, you’re not exactly a winner so you’ll be well-advised to settle with that fatty right over there” – yep i’ve met guys like you before.

‘…lemme guess, you’ve been the chubby consolation prize and you’re still pissed.’

sorry but you guess wrong, that’s not gonna happen as long as they haven’t walked over my dead body. but you’re right about 1 thing, i’m still pissed with the “friend” who tried to set me up, i severed ties with him and i earnestly hope his wife gets gang-raped by a bunch of midgets.

If somebody fucks you over in grand style, most times its best to say “thanks”. People that fuck you over “just a little” tend to go unnoticed and you still see them as a friend.
Somebody jams you up good, the answer is obvious, they ain’t your friend, and you got it figured out before another day went by.
Plus, there are just to many drink specials out there to go around wishing gang-rape on people….now, lets get those pants off. 😉

”this chick is well within her rights to have an issue with my previous…endeavours”

You said all you needed to right there. Yes, it’s perfectly true, any woman is within her rights to reject a man for prior promiscuity. If women wanted to even up the double standard they could do it tomorrow. They won’t though, they want US to do it FOR them. Like you said, it’s hard enough meeting the requirements women do have, why am I going to add extra ones?

I guess that’s the thing, I’m not really much on trying to meet requirements for women; most women couldn’t find their ass with two hands and a sherpa guide. But a man should know if he’s meeting his potential or if he’s fucking up. If you’re shit is tight, you should be good with shopping for a woman that suits you well.
.But my point is, how the fuck can a man demand top-shelf out of some woman when he can’t even get top-shelf out of himself?

‘If you keep going with this mentality you will be quite unhappy in the future.’

you forgot to include the mandatory “you’ll die alone” – yep now he’s certainly in a deep-shit dilemma because the only way for him not to die alone is that his wife and kids also die at the same moment with him.

Because we all define successfulness and being a distinguished person differently.

And for women, appearance.

And I did not say ‘die alone’ I said unhappy.

It is a cookie-cutter mentality and if someone does not fit it they will be unhappy. A woman may be thin and attractive, but what if that man likes curvier girls? And a man might have a successful job working on the rigs, but what if that’s not seen as desirable in a woman’s eyes or distinguished?

You know the drill, doctors, lawyers, pharmacists, dentists, optometrists those are the ‘distinguished’ occupations. Not rig jobs (even though you can make a lot of money on the rigs).

So if you do not fit that mould, you are not distinguished…so you are not top shelf. Therefore top shelf women would be unattainable for you.

‘Because we all define successfulness and being a distinguished person differently.’

not according to millions upon millions of women who wish they can land guys like leonardo dicaprio though, for them leonardo definitely has more success err i mean “successfulness” than say 80% of earth male population?

‘And I did not say ‘die alone’ I said unhappy.’

what makes you think that some random guy on the internet whom you never even met will be unhappy?

‘A woman may be thin and attractive, but what if that man
likes curvier girls?’

then that man who likes curvier girls can simply reform himself from chubby chaser into fatty fucker, what’s so complicated about that?

‘And a man might have a successful job working on
the rigs, but what if that’s not seen as desirable in a woman’s eyes or distinguished?’

then that particular woman can continue pursue guys like dicaprio or henry cavill or some isis hunks or whoever gives her gina tingles, it’s that simple.

‘You know the drill, doctors, lawyers, pharmacists, dentists,
optometrists those are the ‘distinguished’ occupations. Not rig jobs (even though you can make a lot of money on the rigs).’

you can even make more money and at the same time be the ultimate bad-ass whom women lusts after if you tell the irs scums to go to hell but unless you’re superman then i won’t recommend it because bullets won’t bounce off you and steel bars shall confine you.

‘So if you do not fit that mould, you are not distinguished…so you are not top shelf. Therefore top shelf women would be unattainable for you.’

ah but you forgot the infamous nawalt defense or should i say natswalt? not all top shelf women are like that?

you see, if we go by the natswalt defense then surely there are top shelf women who make themselves attainable for guys who flip burgers for a living, no?

Some good points. Yes, you have to be of a certain caliber yourself to expect a certain caliber woman.

The problem, today, though is you have so many beta orbiters and white knights telling many “low caliber” women (in the U.S., anyways) how great they are, how wonderful they are, etc…and that’s the real problem with the female market. That coupled with feminism preaching that men should just accept women “just the way they are”.

Bullshit. If you want to spend time with me, at least, then get your shit together. One of my requirements….eat right and exercise – take care of yourself (and I don’t mean some bullshit model photo on any these women’s magazines).

I can’t recall the last time a girl actually confessed to me up front with a straight arrow answer to the notch count questions.
,,I don’t think it concernes you”
,,That’s none of your business”
,,You shouldn’t jugde someone by their past” – No shit ?
,,You come off as being insecure for letting your self get affected by my past ”
,,You aren’t man enough to get over it (her past)” – I actually got this response from my recent ex-ex-girlfriend, gave me something to really question. Who is the moron here: me, for wasting my precious time while getting angry at a slut, whereas I could be hitting the town, eating good food, visiting museums, having a good time hitting up 9+ ladies, or her, trying to snatch me into thinking that even if she’s damaged goods, I can compromise my entire future with her ?
Man, the drama some us of had to go through before we were enlighthened…but you know what ? IT WAS WORTH IT !

I met a girl on a plane once whose tattoo artist ex had of course convinced her to let him doodle all over her body. One more reason this tat craze is so dumb–it’s like sluts passing out sexual resumes. What’s the number, 10 dicks for every ink job?

I like history. It was a time when murderers, thieves, witches and whores were branded with symbols using a heated iron rod. When I see tatoos, my mind goes in the same direction. Ya know ?
Regards,
J.

I would say when I asjed this in the past I got stone walled with why? Never had a good answer and the article doesn’t provide one. The woman usually gives a 1 word response and it is why, with no reason, also they are not logical.

Just answer that “why?” with a straight-faced, “because I might be crazy about girls who have lots of experience”. Once she answers, if you don’t like the answer, just say, “Then again, I might not be”, as you walk away.

What makes you think she just won’t look you in the eye and lie to you? I remember meeting a girl who said she was a virgin and she kept saying I’m not that kind of girl who has sex. I ended up getting a nasty STD from this virgin and my first dose of the red pill…

AV8R on pleasant sluts : ,, They have somewhat pleasant personalities and listening to them talk doesn’t make me fantasize about my own death. ” Man for this statement you deserve some swort of prize. Holy Moly, funny as hell. I’m saying this from experience with sluts – the ones that actually think they are some kind of special snow-flake sluts – so different from the other sluts, because ,,I’m special.”

One point I would mention about interrogating your girlfriend is that the door can swing both ways. She will likely have questions for you too. I would only pursue the direct method if you are comfortable with your answers to the inevitable questions.

If you are not comfortable, there is always the indirect method. Women have a lot of “tells” even when they think they are smart. In fact, smart, pretty women think they can run rings around men. These tend to be the ones who let the most slip mainly through arrogance. One girl told me “I love to eat”. I thought “OK that’s a future fat woman.” Another told me “I love sex”. OK that’s a slut.

Even without that, you can observe their personal habits (keeping a lot of male friends, pictures of men, always going out, frequent drinking, ditching you for a night out with the girls, etc). Ultimately, you will not need to ask a woman a lot of questions. Sluts and other bad women, usually give themselves away very quickly.

Boy do I enjoy reading articles such as this one. You guys deserve a medal. This type of quality work & introspective deserves high praise and I’m not even ass kissing here. But this A type article should be a trendline for the rest of you readers and article authors.
Regards,
J.B.

The truth of the matter nowadays is that good girls, as we like to call them, don’t really exist. They are unicorns. You are lucky if you come across one that is actually who she says she is. We sometimes even joke that our future wives are currently in Kindergarten because it is comforting to know that she is currently playing with blocks and not swinging from man to man because they sell her a good enough story. And when she’s 18, we’ll snap her right up and she’ll have no exposure to the world of dating.
At the end of the day you can’t change women that are already broken, so those are the ones that men use for exactly what we want: sex with no strings attached. Because it’s easy and it’s right in front of us. But at some point in time, through the course of our lives, we are going to grow out of chasing someone that has been with everyone. Sure being a bachelor is fun and all, the stories are great, bragging to our friends is epic, but we are eventually going to want more out of a female than just sex.

That is when we want to settle down, but with a lady who has respect for herself, morals and there isn’t one guy out there that can have a bad story to tell about her
like the time she had a threesome in a London hostel while studying abroad.

I can’t argue. I’ve often said that men don’t grow up, we just get
bigger. And it’s true. I still have the same juvenile impulses I used
to, and even if I don’t engage in them, I’m still amused by them. My
tastes are still the same, but they’re definitely tempered by more
mature (ha!) and adult themes.

Why should anyone expect a women to be any different, with regards to growing up and/or growing older? Unless she experiences something huge, drastic, and life-changing, she’ll probably stay the exact same person, only with a few more
wrinkles, just like a dude.

Strongly agree with you, I always roll my eyes at my friends who say they don’t judge a woman by her past… Then what the fck do you judge her by? The size of her tits? The beauty of her face? The lies she blatantly tells you to win you over?

Personally, I prefer to take an indirect approach to the questioning, which doesn’t put them on the defensive and increases the chances of getting truthful information out of them. One strategy I use is to open up about my sexual past (well not the craziest shit lol), acting like I am open-minded about hers as well. This is best done over drinks, as the less un-inhibited she feels, the more truthful she will be. Another strategy is to bait them with their slutty girlfriends. I criticize their GFs’ questionable life choices to see if they will defend them or not.

I was seeing a girl who had 4 tattoos and a tongue piercing – She however would not give me blowjobs because “that’s reserved for my boyfriends”. Now, let’s say that she’s clearly looking for someone to “winter” with (cuddle, then dump in the spring) and she was doing everything to try to lock me down. I kept playing it cool, banging other girls, banging her and then dropped it off as she pointed to some bouncer she “ended up in another city with” on her last birthday.

I find it amazing, as if anyone will ask her, she probably will only see the guys she gave blowjobs to as the guys “who counted”, meanwhile, half the city has banged her.

On top of it all, I found out how her ex BF owes her a shitload of money and she’s now back living with mom.. girl, you’re 25… and competing vs younger Eastern Europeans… good luck.

Ever had a girl you were REALLY interested in, like, enamored with, suddenly kill everything by telling you she has an ex-boyfriend with your same first name? Yeah, that’s something really special! You can literally feel the wind being taken out of your sails with that one!

One of my friends one day asked his ex-single mom girlfriend what was the craziest thing she’s done, and she voluntarily told him about getting gangbanged by 2 guys in college. He tried turning a hoe into a housewife, would even babysit her kid while she went out to the club. It took awhile for the lightbulb to go on and for him to finally realize she was a hoe lol

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