How Does Jets Nation Feel About Scott Pioli?

I am not advocating for him, or against him, for that matter. But he is now available and has had some success. He has also been a part of this organization at one time. So I am curious to read what the consensus is out there for him.

He picked a QB nearly as bad as Sanchez, he's gone through 2 coaches
His team went 25-39
They lost the only playoff game they went to (30-7)
They have drafted in the top 5 2x (And picked in the top 5 when he started)

Frankly, I don't see any work away from the Pats that even puts him on the same level as Tannenbaum.

My first instinct is to say 'no thank you' based on his time in Kansas City. I would like to see someone post his resume in KC and NE before I dismiss the idea all together. I know he has enjoyed some success and is respected around the league.

Frankly, I don't see any work away from the Pats that even puts him on the same level as Tannenbaum.

Yup, anyone associated with the Pats is tainted because they had the benefit of Tom Brady (taken in the 6th round). THey fell ass backwards into an all time great QB and therefore the GM and the assistants like Mangini, Crennel, Weiss, all looked like geniuses until they left the Pats and turned out to be nothing special.

Bellichick still has an all time losing record, as head coach, in years he coached teams without Brady.

Yup, anyone associated with the Pats is tainted because they had the benefit of Tom Brady (taken in the 6th round). THey fell ass backwards into an all time great QB and therefore the GM and the assistants like Mangini, Crennel, Weiss, all looked like geniuses until they left the Pats and turned out to be nothing special.

Bellichick still has an all time losing record, as head coach, in years he coached teams without Brady.

Uh. That wasn't really my point. Pioli benefited from being around Belichick (and Brady I suppose). If you think Belichick is only successful because of Brady, then you are simply delusional.

Coaches can improve and learn from an unsuccessful stint (Pete Carroll, Tom Coughlin (somewhat successful his first time around), and so forth)). But Pioli on his own has been far worse than Tannenbaum with the Jets. My commentary had nothing to do with Belichick.

Tom Brady is a better "jobs program" than the US Government could ever devise. He has saved Belichick, got OC Josh McDaniels a Head Coaching job, got a very average Deion Branch a Super Bowl MVP award, etc. The Tom Brady "halo effect" is huge. Pioli was just one of the many beneficiaries.

Uh. That wasn't really my point. Pioli benefited from being around Belichick (and Brady I suppose). If you think Belichick is only successful because of Brady, then you are simply delusional.

Coaches can improve and learn from an unsuccessful stint (Pete Carroll, Tom Coughlin (somewhat successful his first time around), and so forth)). But Pioli on his own has been far worse than Tannenbaum with the Jets. My commentary had nothing to do with Belichick.

great post

Originally Posted by jetstream23

+ 1,000,000

Tom Brady is a better "jobs program" than the US Government could ever devise. He has saved Belichick, got OC Josh McDaniels a Head Coaching job, got a very average Deion Branch a Super Bowl MVP award, etc. The Tom Brady "halo effect" is huge. Pioli was just one of the many beneficiaries.

I am not advocating for him, or against him, for that matter. But he is now available and has had some success. He has also been a part of this organization at one time. So I am curious to read what the consensus is out there for him.

I have no prejudice against him, but I just don't think he can do the job. I never believed he was the guy in charge in NE, just a talking head IMO. I just don't really believe we'd be getting any better than what we just fired. All those awards he got in NE? Obviously not deserved given his failure in KC.