When the guide came out, it wasn't horrible. I read it quite a bit actually, but some opinions on job combinations and what not were quite off. The quest guides, recipes, etc were a decent starting place, but I do admit the thing was outdated it no time. The issue back in 2003 is forums weren't as common place as they are now, not to mention not everyone had high speed internet available to them at a reasonable price, so some of us were still stuck on horrible horrible dial up.

It recommended WHM as a viable sub for WAR

I think that was in the "hey cool you can combine any 2 classes and play however you want" stage of the game... then you realized if you didn't have near perfect builds a VT monster could wipe out a group of 6 after a 30 minute epic battle.

All this talk about silly combinations takes me back to some crazy poster here a few years ago who insisted WHM/THF was the holy grail of setups for party and solo situations. Being able to SATA the tank, Flee from bad situations... It was either some serious trolling or the person was deluded to crazy levels.

All this talk about silly combinations takes me back to some crazy poster here a few years ago who insisted WHM/THF was the holy grail of setups for party and solo situations. Being able to SATA the tank, Flee from bad situations... It was either some serious trolling or the person was deluded to crazy levels.

As a RDM/NIN I used to duo with a WHM/THF for drops and stuff. Hornet Needle, Haku eyes, gold coins and tiny amounts of xp from the orcs they were stolen from. I would tank and she would stick them to me. I made us warp wands as a woodworker and she made us food. We used to skill chain together though I don't remember which one. I used the hornet needle once i got it and garudas dagger and she had a staff. We had tons of fun lol.

Even ridiculous combos have their place. I'm. Hoping for these kinds of stories again with FF XIV

Edited, May 18th 2013 10:39am by LebargeX

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Teneleven wrote:

We secretly replaced your tank wemelchor with Foldgers Crystal's. Let's see what happens.

SATA > True Strike FTW. I used to love doing that in sky on pots and dolls and seeing people go at the numbers. Was always good for a laugh. Course, that was on thf with crazy modifiers. Still, a well geared whm could actually DD decently. Nothing to write home about, but fun for a change of pace.

See, you two are talking about specific places. I mean this person insisted on WHM/THF for traditional exp parties where /BLM or /SMN (before WotG) was far superior. I know it's fun for messing around and whatnot. The WHM forums were up in arms about it.

See, you two are talking about specific places. I mean this person insisted on WHM/THF for traditional exp parties where /BLM or /SMN (before WotG) was far superior. I know it's fun for messing around and whatnot. The WHM forums were up in arms about it.

Oh yeah, if you're talking about old fashioned grinding parties then that's kinda ridiculous. You're just wasting other people's time doing stuff like that. I never really enjoyed being an MP battery as a RDM, but I knew that was my primary role for xp. If i wanted to have the opportunity to use my powers for ******** off later, then being a battery was just a means to an end.

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Teneleven wrote:

We secretly replaced your tank wemelchor with Foldgers Crystal's. Let's see what happens.

Never confuse your inference as the listener for an implication of the speaker.

Good games are subjective like good food is subjective. You're not going to seriously tell me that there's not a psychological basis for why pizza is great and lutefisk is revolting. The thing about subjectivity is that, as subjects go, humans actually have a great deal in common.

Sure, every now and then it was funny to party with a NIN/BLM who used their elemental spells to line up with their Ninjutsu. Things like that were entertaining, especially if the NIN could tank well by damage without provoke. It was more comforting to join a group of strangers with typical subjobs since it was assumed they'd be able to perform their roles to expectation. With friends, it was easier to let them do whatever and have a laugh. It just got worrisome on a job like WHM that is expected to keep everyone alive, where instead the person is focused on DD'ing at the expense of everyone's lives. I think damage dealers could get away with having any setups--less so for a core role like a healer.

See, you two are talking about specific places. I mean this person insisted on WHM/THF for traditional exp parties where /BLM or /SMN (before WotG) was far superior. I know it's fun for messing around and whatnot. The WHM forums were up in arms about it.

All this talk about silly combinations takes me back to some crazy poster here a few years ago who insisted WHM/THF was the holy grail of setups for party and solo situations. Being able to SATA the tank, Flee from bad situations... It was either some serious trolling or the person was deluded to crazy levels.

I remember this crazy WHM/THF woman, she led a LS on... I want to say Bismarck maybe? Not sure, but she was for real, whatever server she was on. She indeed posted on the ZAM whm forums. I was leveling my whm when I stumbled across her here.

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See, you two are talking about specific places. I mean this person insisted on WHM/THF for traditional exp parties where /BLM or /SMN (before WotG) was far superior. I know it's fun for messing around and whatnot. The WHM forums were up in arms about it.

Was that Clefairy or Anna? (same person I think).

WOW. That right there is a name drop! I still think she was the world's greatest troll who fooled us all.

See, you two are talking about specific places. I mean this person insisted on WHM/THF for traditional exp parties where /BLM or /SMN (before WotG) was far superior. I know it's fun for messing around and whatnot. The WHM forums were up in arms about it.

Was that Clefairy or Anna? (same person I think).

WOW. That right there is a name drop! I still think she was the world's greatest troll who fooled us all.

Yes, that person... I'm sure I could go through my posts to find one of the threads they made. The WHM forums were downright vitriolic at the time. I can appreciate the oddball combinations, but that was just extreme.