Quick question about doubles. - www.DiscGolfersR.Us2015-08-02T19:11:17Zhttp://discgolfer.ning.com/forum/topics/quick-question-about-doubles?commentId=1809917%3AComment%3A2566091&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noTo answer your question yes.…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2013-03-12:1809917:Comment:25682922013-03-12T13:04:10.749ZAll day Coreyhttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/CoreyRichardLouisValek
To answer your question yes. Ultimately worst forces you to stay on your toes. I like this formate because every one has to play the rounds that way. Be conservative and the rest works it self out. Also talk to your partner about every shot. It's not the time to run a lot of shots considering that you will both have to putt out to complete the hole.
To answer your question yes. Ultimately worst forces you to stay on your toes. I like this formate because every one has to play the rounds that way. Be conservative and the rest works it self out. Also talk to your partner about every shot. It's not the time to run a lot of shots considering that you will both have to putt out to complete the hole. Man we are a lot alike. I don…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2013-02-23:1809917:Comment:25663462013-02-23T20:15:51.608ZJim Coonradthttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/MadDogCoonradt
<p>Man we are a lot alike. I don't enjoy handicapped play either.</p>
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<p>Last week while I was taking money for our Sunday doubles league I had to listen to one guy whine that lesser players should get strokes. I told him that it is random draw so you take your chances. Also if you are good enough you should be able to win with anyone. Then he got paired up with a good player and took second. Man am I tired of the whiners. If you want to come to play then do so without any pretenses. It…</p>
<p>Man we are a lot alike. I don't enjoy handicapped play either.</p>
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<p>Last week while I was taking money for our Sunday doubles league I had to listen to one guy whine that lesser players should get strokes. I told him that it is random draw so you take your chances. Also if you are good enough you should be able to win with anyone. Then he got paired up with a good player and took second. Man am I tired of the whiners. If you want to come to play then do so without any pretenses. It is random draw doubles so live with it.</p>
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<p>I will give three strokes if a B pooler gets paired with another B pooler or gets Cali in random draw doubles. But that rarely happens. In a couple of years I can only remember giving strokes once when a B pooler got Cali.</p> Not a fan of Worst Shot in co…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2013-02-23:1809917:Comment:25660912013-02-23T14:43:34.505ZChuck Kennedyhttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/ChuckKennedy
<p>Not a fan of Worst Shot in comparison to Tough Shot which I developed in 1990. We were hosting the 1990 Senior Overalls. I figured hosting an unofficial Tough Shot doubles round would be a good way for the visiting players to learn the disc golf course and discover where they didn't want to land once the real singles event got underway.</p>
<p>The only strategy I can see for the weaker partner is to throw lower power shots more likely to land in play. It sucks in Worst Shot, but in Tough…</p>
<p>Not a fan of Worst Shot in comparison to Tough Shot which I developed in 1990. We were hosting the 1990 Senior Overalls. I figured hosting an unofficial Tough Shot doubles round would be a good way for the visiting players to learn the disc golf course and discover where they didn't want to land once the real singles event got underway.</p>
<p>The only strategy I can see for the weaker partner is to throw lower power shots more likely to land in play. It sucks in Worst Shot, but in Tough Shot the better partner can usually go for the pin throwing second unless OB is a factor.</p> Thanks for the thoughts David…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2013-02-23:1809917:Comment:25663452013-02-23T11:34:41.516Zeric beichhttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/ericbeich
<p>Thanks for the thoughts David.some good points.</p>
<p>Thanks for the thoughts David.some good points.</p> "Tough shot". Right, I stand…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2013-02-22:1809917:Comment:25664192013-02-22T23:28:16.662ZDavid Saulshttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/DavidSauls
<p>"Tough shot". Right, I stand corrected. I couldn't think of the term. Superior, in my opinion, to "worst shot".</p>
<p>This weekend we've got a couple dozen people coming to play 24 holes---8 best shot, 8 tough shot, 8 alternating shot. It should be interesting. Especially since the 8 holes for tough shot include 2 of the toughest holes on the course; there'll be a real premium on multiple accurate throws.</p>
<p>I certainly understand you not playing because you don't enjoy it. I…</p>
<p>"Tough shot". Right, I stand corrected. I couldn't think of the term. Superior, in my opinion, to "worst shot".</p>
<p>This weekend we've got a couple dozen people coming to play 24 holes---8 best shot, 8 tough shot, 8 alternating shot. It should be interesting. Especially since the 8 holes for tough shot include 2 of the toughest holes on the course; there'll be a real premium on multiple accurate throws.</p>
<p>I certainly understand you not playing because you don't enjoy it. I don't enjoy handicapped play, and have absolutely no interest in engaging in it. Yet I recognize that many others do.</p>
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<p> </p> Yes, made baskets should coun…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2013-02-22:1809917:Comment:25664182013-02-22T22:45:36.672ZJim Coonradthttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/MadDogCoonradt
<p>Yes, made baskets should count. There is no reason to take away a good shot. But technically that is called "tough shot". And even aces would not count in true worst shot.</p>
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<p>I just choose not to play it because I don't enjoy it and it really adds nothing to the game. Best shot doubles allows a team to make a few mistakes but if both partners pull together they will do well. And there is more of a green light to "go for it".</p>
<p>Yes, made baskets should count. There is no reason to take away a good shot. But technically that is called "tough shot". And even aces would not count in true worst shot.</p>
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<p>I just choose not to play it because I don't enjoy it and it really adds nothing to the game. Best shot doubles allows a team to make a few mistakes but if both partners pull together they will do well. And there is more of a green light to "go for it".</p> I respect Jim's opinion and d…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2013-02-22:1809917:Comment:25663382013-02-22T18:37:36.810ZDavid Saulshttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/DavidSauls
<p>I respect Jim's opinion and distaste for "worst shot", but disagree with your characterization. The point isn't to reward bad play (as "worst score" would) or to penalize good shots. It's to require both members of a team to make good shots. You could just as well impugn "best shot" doubles because bad shots go without punishment---as long as the partner makes a better shot. </p>
<p>"Worst shot" is a matter of teamwork because the weak link on the team is vulnerable. It also involves…</p>
<p>I respect Jim's opinion and distaste for "worst shot", but disagree with your characterization. The point isn't to reward bad play (as "worst score" would) or to penalize good shots. It's to require both members of a team to make good shots. You could just as well impugn "best shot" doubles because bad shots go without punishment---as long as the partner makes a better shot. </p>
<p>"Worst shot" is a matter of teamwork because the weak link on the team is vulnerable. It also involves strategy, since the first thrower wants to throw well, but not outthrow his partner's ability, so he's weighing how aggressive to be, or not.</p>
<p>Your first example is one of how worst should should NOT be used---where players are of such unequal ability that the weaker player's shots will almost always be played. </p> I think Worst Shot works bett…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2013-02-22:1809917:Comment:25661662013-02-22T16:59:28.545ZDavid Saulshttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/DavidSauls
<p>I think Worst Shot works better in a bring-your-partner doubles than random draw. At the very least, it needs to be in a field divided by skills so that a rank beginner doesn't doom the team. It also works better on a course that's not too brutal---perhaps even an easier course, where added challenge is a plus.</p>
<p>There's a saying that playing best shot tests your teamwork---but playing worst shot tests your friendship.</p>
<p>One suggestion I have for anyone running a worst shot event…</p>
<p>I think Worst Shot works better in a bring-your-partner doubles than random draw. At the very least, it needs to be in a field divided by skills so that a rank beginner doesn't doom the team. It also works better on a course that's not too brutal---perhaps even an easier course, where added challenge is a plus.</p>
<p>There's a saying that playing best shot tests your teamwork---but playing worst shot tests your friendship.</p>
<p>One suggestion I have for anyone running a worst shot event is that you only require one made putt. If you don't, and the first player misses a putt, the second player just lays up, even from 10'. Blah. </p>
<p> </p> I love worst shot, but I beli…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2013-02-22:1809917:Comment:25663312013-02-22T16:38:35.844ZEric Dayhttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/EricDay
<p>I love worst shot, but I believe I'm in the minority on this one. Worst shot brings the strategy to the game to its max limit. Try to equal your partners shot unless he is in a bad spot, if so try to land one a tad shorter but in the fairway so you might luck out and the other team pics the shorter open shot. Don't go for puts out of you or your partners range, if you go for a 40 footer and end up 30 long then it starts all over again. ***Both partners have to make the putt in worst shot***…</p>
<p>I love worst shot, but I believe I'm in the minority on this one. Worst shot brings the strategy to the game to its max limit. Try to equal your partners shot unless he is in a bad spot, if so try to land one a tad shorter but in the fairway so you might luck out and the other team pics the shorter open shot. Don't go for puts out of you or your partners range, if you go for a 40 footer and end up 30 long then it starts all over again. ***Both partners have to make the putt in worst shot*** I suggest lob putting anything out side the circle. </p> thanks for the reply Jeffery.…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2013-02-22:1809917:Comment:25660042013-02-22T14:30:14.641Zeric beichhttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/ericbeich
<p>thanks for the reply Jeffery. I think maybe having him throw first might be best. cheers!</p>
<p>thanks for the reply Jeffery. I think maybe having him throw first might be best. cheers!</p>