Mo Ryan and Ryan McGee are here with an hour-long chat with TV critic Alan Sepinwall to discuss his new book, "The Revolution Was Televised: The Cops, Crooks, Slingers, and Slayers Who Changed TV Drama Forever". Whether or not you have read the book, you'll want to hear what Alan had to say to the two Ryans.

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