Physx no cause it would more lean on nvidia cards. I think a simple more realistic style animation would be preferable. When it real life have you seen bodies fly backwards unless they were hit by cars at high speed?

Havok would be nice. Also for bodies flying back being shot that's movie stuff. Its simple physics. If you fire a weapon and you do not fly back from the recoil then what ever the bullet/slug hits will not fly back either. They may jump a little from a shock reaction but that can be had from a bow shot and no one would expect anyone to "fly back" from an arrow HOWEVER that would be funny as hell to see in a zombie game.

Most common reaction from being shot is the body drops like a sack of potato's and goes into shock and twitches a lot. "Death Spasms" and its not a pretty sight and IMO should be left out of games.

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Havok would be nice. Also for bodies flying back being shot that's movie stuff. Its simple physics. If you fire a weapon and you do not fly back from the recoil then what ever the bullet/slug hits will not fly back either. They may jump a little from a shock reaction but that can be had from a bow shot and no one would expect anyone to "fly back" from an arrow HOWEVER that would be funny as hell to see in a zombie game.

Most common reaction from being shot is the body drops like a sack of potato's and goes into shock and twitches a lot. "Death Spasms" and its not a pretty sight and IMO should be left out of games.

Havok would be perfect IMO. You hit a zombies arm and it has a small rag doll effect knocking the arm back and the torso leans toward it would be very cool and realistic. Or a small head bounce when they fall down and the head hits the ground. Man there are SO MANY micro animations that can be done its pretty crazy. Maybe they could use something like "ANT" kinda like EA does.

Havok would be nice. Also for bodies flying back being shot that's movie stuff. Its simple physics. If you fire a weapon and you do not fly back from the recoil then what ever the bullet/slug hits will not fly back either. They may jump a little from a shock reaction but that can be had from a bow shot and no one would expect anyone to "fly back" from an arrow HOWEVER that would be funny as hell to see in a zombie game.

Most common reaction from being shot is the body drops like a sack of potato's and goes into shock and twitches a lot. "Death Spasms" and its not a pretty sight and IMO should be left out of games.

i meant like explosions knocking you back. Also what happens when someone is shot point blank with 00buck? don't they fall back away from the player? hence "fly back" not soaring away but recoiling away

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Havok would be perfect IMO. You hit a zombies arm and it has a small rag doll effect knocking the arm back and the torso leans toward it would be very cool and realistic. Or a small head bounce when they fall down and the head hits the ground. Man there are SO MANY micro animations that can be done its pretty crazy. Maybe they could use something like "ANT" kinda like EA does.

i meant like explosions knocking you back. Also what happens when someone is shot point blank with 00buck? don't they fall back away from the player? hence "fly back" not soaring away but recoiling away

There is no flying back. Point blank with buckshot MIGHT make you take a step back but you might lean forward also. Depends on the placement but, one things for sure your knees would simply give out within a second you would just drop down dead or in shock and in a LOT of pain. You might even go numb and shake from the massive blood loss. Its pretty amazing thing if you wanna go into all the scenarios that might happen from that. Most of the time its shock that kills a person from a bullet wound unless its a hydra shock hit (head or heart). That's the whole point of the double tap. To instantly immobilize a person because even a body in shock and pull a grenade pin or pull a trigger.

Basically if you cant get them in the head or heart you wanna cause as much blood loss at possible. THAT is why the bigger bullet or buck is so effective. Not because of the energy it produces but, because of the hole it makes.

Anyway this subject is a little dark for me on a Friday morning. I'm done.

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really at this point as long as its better than the MOD then I will be much happier.

MM has not seen how the zombies chase you in the MOD and how they react. Another thing he has not seen is how players react when shot. Its pretty much the same animation each time when a person dies or get broken legs.

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MM if you get some free time check this video out, it shows some of the zombie animations and killing animations in 720P

OMG I just got done playing a massive DayZ session with some friends both from TPU and external. Most of us played from noon on Saturday until ~5am Sunday. Erocker joined us around midnight. When I logged out I had just robbed a tent for a mk48 mod 0 and 5 boxes of ammo

* [REMOVED] - Chase combat logging systems removed. (Removed due to ealry warning of agro)
* [REMOVED] - Debriefing window has started to be cleaned up. (blank box on dc)
* [REMOVED] - BearTrap Due to issues with the trap still staying active after removal.
* [REMOVED] - DZ_Patrol_Pack_EP1 Due to us no longer planing to remove backpacks from new spawns.
* [REMOVED] - All chance based systems for sight and sound from zeds they will now only agro if in view or your making noise. Should allow more freedom to move.

i like it but f the crossbow until they fix the sighting and add a re-curve or compound bow. Plus the crossbow makes a smoke cloud when fired like a gun. Give me a silenced rifle any day. I liked the crossbow so much because silenced guns were rare at the time. When I play now, I almost never take the xbow if I can help it.

No, it's because people on Reddit and the forum were complaining about them being named after people. Basically, some fat, no-life, mouth breathers made them go away. Bohemia caved in rather quickly. Pathetic.

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No, it's because people on Reddit and the forum were complaining about them being named after people. Basically, some fat, no-life, mouth breathers made them go away. Bohemia caved in rather quickly. Pathetic.

LOL what? I do not recognize a single name on there when it relates to a person.

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Found the post about the cans from a DEV

I'll start this insight by saying I was one of the people that complained in the 1.7.6 patch notes. Why? Because 1.7.5.1 simply was a shambles, and the thing spamming the 1.7.6 patch notes was a list of vainly named can models of developers who the community was already upset with. We wanted something to moan at and took that opportunity. Boy, we were wrong.

The models themselves are great. If you haven't seen them all, you can see them here. Why didn't we like them then? My thoughts are that it's how the release was worded. Seeing a list of random names in a model list isn't what we wanted to see, but perhaps the models should have been shown to us more directly and the names should have been more clearly stated as description only and not the object name.

The community response then? Yes, our response to moan was too fast with too much prejudice. Equally, however, the response to completely remove the models in a hotfix almost solely for that reason was also too fast. If a decision was made by the next release, there would have been time for the heat to die down and to gain a true opinion from the community. What we are left with now is half a community moaning about the new models being added and the other half moaning about them being removed.

But what now? There is a developer who has made some really sweet models but had his work torn to pieces by our peer-review community. We shouldn't let his hard work go amiss. The models should return, but the marketting should be different. I don't have an issue giving developers credit for their work, but after the shambles of 1.7.5.1, the naming should have been less vain and made less of a "one-shot glory attempt" and perhaps focussed more on the actual benefit here. New items, new models. The cans still exist for the same reasons, but they just add another shade of blue to the game.

My opinion?
Communtiy: Let's not rip this poor guys work up from our underlying fustration.
Devs: Keep the models. Name them more subtly. Market them better.

Earlier this month, the team working on the DayZ ArmA II mod (not the standalone version) released a patch for the game that introduced a whole slew of new models for cans in the game world. Soda cans, beer cans, beans, you name it.These new can models all had quirky, funny names dedicated to forum moderators and the community absolutely hated it to death.

These new can names were put into the game in an effort to pay homage to the folks who work tireless hours to upkeep the community and message boards, but ultimately a large portion of the community didn't appreciate the gesture.

Threads began sprouting up on popular gaming communities like Reddit and 4chan denouncing the new cans, declaring that they 'ruin the immersion and atmosphere of the game' and that this was nothing short of a grab for glory by the moderators and development team.

At the end of the day, the players' voice was heard and hotfix 1.7.6.1 removed all of the can models that had been introduced just 24 hours prior. The backlash and outpouring of hate was successful, but was it necessary?

In a game like DayZ, immersion in the game world is a crucial factor, that is not up for debate. Losing yourself in Chernarus, creeping through the overgrown foliage trying to avoid the attention of zombies and, more importantly, the eye of ruthless bandits, is what makes DayZ so special. There have been attempts to emulate this feeling that DayZ gives us but, if we're honest, nobody has nailed it down yet.

But was the immersion really 'ruined' by the inclusion of a handful of off-the-wall can names? After all, they're just cans, right?

Keep reading for more on what Dean 'Rocket' Hall is calling The Notorious Can Incident.

Imagine the following scenario, for a moment:

You're creeping through the desolate streets of Cherno, foraging for anything of use while trying to keep away from the prying eyes of bandits and hungry zombies. You sneak past a shambling group of undead, feet padding softly on the street below as you move by, crouched to keep the noise down. Ahead there is a supermarket, known for housing some much-needed perishables.

The door creaks quietly as you enter the market, light spilling off the barren shelves. The place looks to be abandoned, or at least you fervently hope it is. A noise sounds suddenly from the corner of the shop, you creep towards it removing your M1911, bracing yourself for a fight. As you round the corner, the zombie comes into your line of sight. Without hesitation, you lift your sidearm to your shoulder and put three quick rounds into the undead creature before you.

He drops to the ground in a heap of rotting flesh and putrid stench.

That's when you see it. Behind the shiftless corpse at your feet, a wealth of life-giving consumables are strewn about the floor. You rush over, abandoning all pretense of stealth. "This is it!" you think, "the supplies I've been foraging for all night." You're hoping for some beans and maybe a bottle of water or two to quench your thirst and sate your appetite.

You approach the loot, crouch down and pick up a dusty can, turning it over in your hands and inspecting the label. 'Herpy Dooves Canned Muffins' it reads. "What the hell is this?" you think, snatching up another can from the floor. The faded label reads 'mZLY yZLY'. You raise your eyebrows. "What the - what is mZLY yZLY?" you say to yourself, "Can I even drink this?"

That's when it hits you. Herpy Dooves. mZLY. These must be friends of Rocket's, or maybe forum moderators. In that instant, the immersion is gone. You're sitting at your desk, once again, playing a game on your computer in your office. No undead, no threats of banditry.

It's just a game, nothing more.

On the surface, the communities complaints about patch 1.7.6 and the updated can models seems petty. Childish, in fact. Trivial. But when you reflect on the fact that DayZ players have spent countless hours investing themselves into the world of Chernarus, it doesn't seem so trvial after all.

Not many games give you the ability to truly lose yourself in the environment, to forget the woes of daily life and immerse yourself completely in a fictitious game world. To spend time with friends online, foraging for supplies and doing your level best to stay alive in a harsh, desperate world.

DayZ has the power to give this to players and as these can models prove, it has the power to take it away as well.

Authors note: these are just my thoughts. I'd like to hear from you guys, as well. Sound off in the comments below or you can always hit up the forums to discuss the matter further.
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