Bowser wrote:According to a league source, Pens have asked Roberts to make a decision by 9 pm eastern. They have a few other things in the fire that hinge on the deal with Florida and Roberts waiving his NTC.

Pens are balking at the price Phoenix wants for Georges Laraque as the Pens have had more interest in defenseman Nick Boynton.

That's Cool Bowser, I didn't want GL in the 1st place.rather have Boynton

Bowser wrote:According to a league source, Pens have asked Roberts to make a decision by 9 pm eastern. They have a few other things in the fire that hinge on the deal with Florida and Roberts waiving his NTC.

Pens are balking at the price Phoenix wants for Georges Laraque as the Pens have had more interest in defenseman Nick Boynton.

Thanks for the updates, Bowser.

I'll trust your sources before I believe a single media report. Even if nothing happens with the information from your end, it's always more logical and worthwhile discussing instead of some of the shlock from other sites.

i was a huge welch enthusiast but i have to admit im really starting to wonder about him. its tough to tell not being able to see him play much though. i just cant understand with melichar, nas, and scuderi on the roster if he was as close as i had hoped why he wouldnt be on the roster, particularly before the streak. i mean i just wouldve thought he would be here getting experience over playing those guys.

Ron` wrote:Magnum I agree, EC could be worth alot more next year if he just makes minor strides along the boards.

I Agree which is why they have him playing on the 3rd line, so he can develop that part of his game... I'd hate to see us trading the kid especially for a rental before giving him a chance to wing the top 2 lines consistently

Ron` wrote:Magnum I agree, EC could be worth alot more next year if he just makes minor strides along the boards.

I Agree which is why they have him playing on the 3rd line, so he can develop that part of his game... I'd hate to see us trading the kid especially for a rental before giving him a chance to wing the top 2 lines consistently

If the rumor is true, Pens might be getting one highly motivated 40-year old left-winger from Florida. According to one person, Roberts asked if Toronto was interested and Jacques Martin said Maple Leafs won't move a young player for him.

Bowser wrote:If the rumor is true, Pens might be getting one highly motivated 40-year old left-winger from Florida. According to one person, Roberts asked if Toronto was interested and Jacques Martin said Maple Leafs won't move a young player for him.

highly motivated and highly not an integral part for the present or future

Bowser wrote:If the rumor is true, Pens might be getting one highly motivated 40-year old left-winger from Florida. According to one person, Roberts asked if Toronto was interested and Jacques Martin said Maple Leafs won't move a young player for him.

If he's motivated and wants to sign for another year, that changes the compensation too. So many variables in this deal and a complete escape clause for either side.

Ron` wrote:Magnum I agree, EC could be worth alot more next year if he just makes minor strides along the boards.

I Agree which is why they have him playing on the 3rd line, so he can develop that part of his game... I'd hate to see us trading the kid especially for a rental before giving him a chance to wing the top 2 lines consistently

You can't teach those kind of hands

Or shot. He's the only forward we have that isn't afraid to shoot when he has the puck and his shot is pretty bad a--. He just needs to get better on the board work like you said, defense and then develope some chemistry with the Top lines.

So, let's say that Welch is moved for Roberts. Gives us 3 extra forwards on this team and an extra d-man... What does he go after next? I'd love to see a defenseman and I like the Boynton rumors. As much as I like the Boyes rumors, it's getting a little crowded with forwards unless Shero can find takers.

arizonahotrock wrote:Name one Penguin defensemen that Shero has molded from solid prospect to dud? Not to say it isn't too late for Welch, but this is a new regime with an entirely different attitude on player development.

Well, in regards to Welch...maybe RS doesn't see much potential in him. I know he's like the next coming of Ulf on this board...but, let's face it...maybe he's just overrated.

It's too early to tell about what D-Men RS will have an impact on, but...I think it's too late for some...i.e. Melichar.[/quote]

Shero is in a good position of being able to see prospects from a different, unclouded perspective. At least for now. None of these kids are his draft picks, so he doesn't have anything at stake to get rid of them.

People have said that if Welch can't bypass Scuderi, Melichar or Nasredeinne that he has no worth. That isn't necessarily true, because Welch is better served playing top minutes at WBS. What is disturbing is that he couldn't make the lineup when Melichar and Eaton were injured. He very well could have gotten top minutes with Gonchar and/or Whitney, but the Pens chose another path.

The fact that he never played with Whitney/Gonchar shows me that Shero and/or Therrian has no confidence in his abilities to succeed in the NHL.