i was also surprised it wasn't nominated for animated feature, but then after thinking about it, I understand it being excluded ... the film was so plot driven; there weren't any places where we focused on Tintin's character, etc. But excited about the nominations, even if he loses.

"Modern, serious music has become embroiled in an intellectual discussion that has no place in music. Certainly, the great composer of the past were geniuses and used their intellect, but only to serve their emotions and guide their craft. Not to dictate to them what they should or shouldn't write" - Michael Kamen, 1995

The cancellation theory only works if voters want to vote for John Williams as an individual but are presented with two options. I guess it also works if voters want to pick the best score of the year and both scores are fighting it out.

This account is no longer active - I joined the John Williams forum out of some romantic notion that I would be involved in discussions about the greatness of this man.

Instead I found my self defending John Williams from people who have gone as far as to call him an 'egocentric person' who 'muscles his way through the industry' and to also go as far as starting discussions about how 'bad' he is as a composer.

One thing I know is for certain, after we all perish John’s music will live on, performed in concert halls all around the world for hundreds of years to come , so all our bulls**t opinions are for nothing. I will be doing the best thing for me which to immerse my self to the music of the greats and stop wasting my time trying to convince other people that John Williams is actually 'not that bad'.

I'm afraid the Artist will win best score but I think either Williams entry is worthy of victory unlike the last time he was twice nominated.

On Feb. 27 people will talk about how the show had some of the lowest ratings of all time for the Oscars.
They will wonder why? And the answer is clear, The 9 films nominated for best picture were 8 films that hardly anyone saw. The Help, Moneyball and War Horse will be the three most viewed films, and only the Help was an actual blockbuster film (barely).

If it isn't high concept the it's not worth watching believed the pseudo superior one.

Predictable but good choices, I think. The other four nominees this year were merely formalities anyway since The Artist more or less has its name etched on the trophy already (a deserved win IMO, nonetheless), so nice to see Tintin up there as well; my favourite score of 2011.

Although I gotta say, I am still a bit surprised (or should I say dismayed?) that Johnny is nominated for both "Tintin" and "War Horse," two Spielberg movies in the same year! I wouldn't have believed it possible. But oh well. At this point, JW is probably saying to himself, "Who cares about winning? I will show the world who can garner the most 2 nominations in the same category in the same year!"

These are probably the two opinions of the jury:

I found TINTIN rather disappointing and not really deserving of an Oscar nom. But WAR HORSE definitely was, so happy for that.

Wow, that is a very solid lineup. Very happy to see that the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo didn't get nomimated. But Williams definitely lost this with 2 nominations! oh well, he was never going to win anyways.

It's nice to know the Academy will still nominate Williams for a score to a popcorn film, which hasn't happened since PoA in 2003.

Wow, I think this is the best possible situation for JW, since we pretty much knew he wouldn't win the Oscar anyways. He may as well rack up those nominations!

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Oh whoops, my bad. Still, it's been 7 years since a JW score to a popcorn film was nominated.

I wish they would switch back to the 5 nominees for Best Picture. There's no prestige in being nominated if they're picking 10 films.

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In the end, Howard Shore could have more chances to win than Williams--Hugo collected 11 nominations and will likely bring home most of the tech awards, hence there's a possibilty the score could be one of them (even though The Artist will surely win).

"Modern, serious music has become embroiled in an intellectual discussion that has no place in music. Certainly, the great composer of the past were geniuses and used their intellect, but only to serve their emotions and guide their craft. Not to dictate to them what they should or shouldn't write" - Michael Kamen, 1995

"Modern, serious music has become embroiled in an intellectual discussion that has no place in music. Certainly, the great composer of the past were geniuses and used their intellect, but only to serve their emotions and guide their craft. Not to dictate to them what they should or shouldn't write" - Michael Kamen, 1995

I'm pretty happy with this year's nominees, especially for best score. I haven't listened to The Artist yet (or seen the film), but it seems like it would be a score I would like given the subject manner. Even so, to have both Williams scores nominated is pretty awesome, although like others have said I'll be surprised if he actually wins for one of them. But it's still almost as if the Academy said "we still like you're work, John, even though we think other people deserve an Oscar for a change." I also actually really enjoyed Hugo's score, and wouldn't mind that one winning. I listen to it as frequently as Tintin and War Horse, honestly. It's such a (mostly) peaceful and relaxing score with a lot of flavor and variations to it. I wish it's original song that plays at the end credits was nominated, though. Even though I don't understand the lyrics (lol), the voice in counterpart to the music is very good. But yeah, some pretty good choices this year.

Again Harry Potter got snubbed at the Oscars for even nominations. I figured this would happen, even though many thought the Academy would give them more as a sort of "encompassing the entire series" theory. But honestly, I don't care about any other Oscar that series could win EXCEPT for Art Direction. Stuart Craig needs to win this Oscar for the Harry Potter series already. I believe he has been nominated to it every time a Potter film has come out, if I am not mistaken, but never won. He needs to win it this time, not just because his art direction was excellent in the final film, but because this is a case where he should be recognized for his incredible work on the entire series. Anyone else agree? Anyone think it might happen? If it was Potter's only Oscar ever, it'd be great and well-deserved.

I love that Hugo got so many Oscar nominations. I really loved that film because it was a film about films, and I had no idea that's what it was going to be when I saw it. And the way the story went about it, and the way it was presented (in the best 3D I have ever seen) really captivated me far more than any other film this year. And my love for silent films really helped my enjoyment for the history involved (I know, that means I really should go see The Artist, too). I thought perhaps it would have been forgotten by the Academy but apparently not. I hope it wins a lot.

Having Tintin not nominated for best animated film is a slap in the face, honestly, and the worst omission of this year. I think their push for Andy Serkis to be nominated for best supporting actor ruined it's chance, honestly. They kept touting how it wasn't really animation, but Andy's actual performance, and should be recognized, which I totally agreed with. But perhaps when the academy heard this they then said "well if they don't want to be treated like an animated film, then we won't treat it like one." Hence no nomination, because now in their eyes the film isn't animated but still performed by regular people like any other film. Of course they are missing the point here, completely. And this line of thinking surely does sound backwards enough to work for them. And of course, Andy Serkis didn't even get nominated anyway. Maybe from this point on no motion capture film will be nominated for Best Animated Film, and only the more "traditionally animated" ones, as seen on this year's list, will.

Another omission that will probably only be noticed from me is Super 8. Perhaps it is because it was personally a fantastic film in the same way Hugo was (another movie about movies, but in a very different way). I didn't expect it to be nominated much, perhaps just for effects (that train crash sequence had to be the most impressive scene I have seen all year), or sound, and possibly even score, but apparently not. I know the score to this film isn't anything amazing, but just from being on these forums it is VERY clear it has a lot of fans, far more than most of the other nominees, even Hugo. In fact, I think Super 8 is the score I play more frequently than any of the other score that came out this year. But as always, it doesn't take an Oscar to tell you that something is great, or not.

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