I think the FF is a truly beautiful watch with a great history. However, I dive with all my watches and although the FF is a true dive watch, I'd personally go for the tool-like aesthetics of the DSSD. Good luck with it and let's see some pics' when you've made your choice.

How about the new Sub ceramic, which shares the DSSD's many fine qualities, like the clasp, the bezel, the movement... Without the thickness, useless helium valve, tapering bracelet or Ring-Lock writing. Save you a lot of cash too!

I love the FF but I'm not much for polished watches, especially descendants of legendary tool watches. Now, if you want a dress diver instead of a daily wear piece, it might be ok.

How about the new Sub ceramic, which shares the DSSD's many fine qualities, like the clasp, the bezel, the movement... Without the thickness, useless helium valve, tapering bracelet or Ring-Lock writing. Save you a lot of cash too!

I love the FF but I'm not much for polished watches, especially descendants of legendary tool watches. Now, if you want a dress diver instead of a daily wear piece, it might be ok.

I agree.

I'm all for the new Sub-C...quite possibly my "grail" if there is such a thing.

suddha wrote:How about the new Sub ceramic, which shares the DSSD's many fine qualities, like the clasp, the bezel, the movement...

I thought about this for a long time. The Sub C has a lot that I like. Beefier case (though just 40mm width). Maxi-dial. Cyclops, which I actually like, and in some lighting conditions, need. I've also had the steel and two-tone GMT-C models, which I liked a lot. But for me, I really like larger watches. At a Ben Bridge Rolex boutique in Honolulu I was able to see the Sub-C and DSSD side by side. Though they both looked great, my eyes went immediately to the DSSD, being a few mm larger. If I did get a Sub-C, it would be the new Kermit. My wife is a Feng Shui practitioner, and told me that green is very good feng shui for me!

I can't be sure since I've never actually seen the fabled Fifty Fathoms. It seems [too] huge from the specs. And it is notorious for having a stupid bracelet/strap changing system. Still, it sure is sexy looking, and is easily my preference based only on pictures. As for the DSSD, I think I prefer the discontinued Sea Dweller.

vbuskirk wrote:I can't be sure since I've never actually seen the fabled Fifty Fathoms. It seems [too] huge from the specs. And it is notorious for having a stupid bracelet/strap changing system. Still, it sure is sexy looking, and is easily my preference based only on pictures.

I spent some time with it in the Boutique. The size and the sexy simplicity are pluses for me. I'd keep it on the bracelet, but I'm not crazy about the lack of microadjustment!

I've owned 3 FF and only got rid of them because they're too big for me. No microadjustment on the bracelet, but still comfortable. The watch is fairly rugged imo. I never had a problem with the movement. You know how some watches are a scratch magnet? The FF is the opposite. Tough to mark. The DSSD is definitely more toolish. You know it's rugged. It's very thick but not as wide. I've only held it, never owned one. You should be able to get a pretty good deal on a new FF too (but on the bracelet it will be pricey). I don't think you can beat the lume on the FF. So I lean towards FF. I would get it preowned though.