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I wouldn't try to stop it, by putting pressure on it, (attrition is pressure), you may make it worse. A little yelp of excitement as the dog launches is no big deal in AKC, as a judge I actually like seeing that kind of energy. Also that problem will go away by itself as the dog matures and running marks becomes routine.

I wouldn't try to stop it, by putting pressure on it, (attrition is pressure), you may make it worse. A little yelp of excitement as the dog launches is no big deal in AKC, as a judge I actually like seeing that kind of energy. Also that problem will go away by itself as the dog matures and running marks becomes routine.
John

I think we need to make a distinction between the typical vocal dog that whines or even barks on line in anticipation versus the little yelp or bark as the dog launches. I believe that stopping the dog in the second scenario and using a zero tolerance approach is more likely to lead to that first situation problem dog. That's just my opinion, maybe Randy B can pipe in on this.

i've seen one first hand where it wasnt nipped in the bud and you are exactly right. it will become a problem and common occurence. mine started doing it and first time it happened called him back and did what i mentioned (saw Lardy do it on his TRM video) and resent and not a peep but still same if not more amount of desire.

I think we need to make a distinction between the typical vocal dog that whines or even barks on line in anticipation versus the little yelp or bark as the dog launches. I believe that stopping the dog in the second scenario and using a zero tolerance approach is more likely to lead to that first situation problem dog. That's just my opinion, maybe Randy B can pipe in on this.

John

I am quite clear what the OP was referring to, noise once released.
A yelp on release.
It is not a mark down for training.
So I pick my fights.

Not referrencing line manners at all.
Been down that road.

And, it has not gone away, some dogs just want more.

Sorry if my post was confusing.

BTW---mine sits, quivering, until released, then lets out a YELP and gets him some bird!
Didn't used to be that way....................

Here's what the rulebook says:
Section 10. In Junior, Senior and Master Hunting
Tests, a dog shall come tractably at heel and sit promptly
at the point designated by its handler and remain
quietly where placed until given further orders. Dogs
that bark or whine on line, in a blind or while retrieving
shall be scored low in Trainability. Loud and prolonged
barking or whining is sufficient cause to justify grading a
dog “0” in Trainability.

In reality, good judges don't make a big deal of the situation you described. There are other references to barking in that it is a "minor fault" unless prolonged.