Carlos..........

Quote Nightmoves: Here is the scene where Carlos tells Julian how upset he is that he is not going to be starting a new life with Sab and raising the baby, 'HIS DNA OR NOT' which he would have raised as if it were his own.

I'd find it hard to believe after saying all of that, that he is the father.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2Rt09NckoI

ITA. But then again, my opinions and speculations are usually based on what we REALLY see on our screen.

#22
2014/02/18 10:04AM

Re: Carlos..........

JaneDoe

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Quote ransomha: Think I have figured out Carlos.

Like Jason, Carlos is a mob related hit man. Is that a safe environment to raise a child? Would HIS baby be safer with a doctor and nurse?

IF Sabrina had to raise her baby alone and she needed him, he would step up and take his chances but, if his child and Sabrina is safe he will sacrifice the two things that matter the most to him.

Like Jake, this baby was conceived on a drunken night. What was right the night before didn't look as good the next morning.

While not exactly the same, ( what is? ) there are many similarities . A hit man and a nurse. An unplanned child. The safety of the child and mother. Sacrifice.

Carlos is not an upstanding guy but, when it comes to Sabrina I think he wants to keep her safe as did Jason.

But he wanted to raise the baby in the beginning when did he suddenly change his mind, conveniently after Sabrina said she told Patrick the truth. Now all of sudden Carlos is worried about safety, not buying it.

Same with Jason. He too had planned on marrying Liz and raising the Jake. Then changed his mind.

After something mob related happened and it brought him back to reality. The last we saw Carlos, he was commiserating with Julian and was still wishing to raise SABRINA's baby and was sad that now that Patrick knew the truth he wouldn't get the chance.

As he's standing there with a post beat up Julian well after he was kidnapped he's STILL talking about wanting to be a father to a baby that's not biologically his.

Nope, still not buying that scenario.

#23
2014/02/18 10:08AM

Re: Carlos..........

JaneDoe

Quote ransomha:

Quote JaneDoe:

Quote ransomha: Think I have figured out Carlos.

Like Jason, Carlos is a mob related hit man. Is that a safe environment to raise a child? Would HIS baby be safer with a doctor and nurse?

IF Sabrina had to raise her baby alone and she needed him, he would step up and take his chances but, if his child and Sabrina is safe he will sacrifice the two things that matter the most to him.

Like Jake, this baby was conceived on a drunken night. What was right the night before didn't look as good the next morning.

While not exactly the same, ( what is? ) there are many similarities . A hit man and a nurse. An unplanned child. The safety of the child and mother. Sacrifice.

Carlos is not an upstanding guy but, when it comes to Sabrina I think he wants to keep her safe as did Jason.

I might buy into that if he were trying to stay away from her for her safety or if he wasn't so adamant about wanting to raise Sabrina's baby as his own. If he was that concerned for her and her baby's safety, he would stay away from her and he wouldn't have even suggested he help her raise her baby. Raising a baby as your own is the same thing as being the father of the baby in the eyes of your enemies. The people you love are targets.... biologically yours or not. Just ask Sonny.

Which of Sonny's children were targeted? A ricocheted bullet is pretty hard to determine where it will go IMO.

When Carlos didn't want Sabrina to go it alone he was willing to step up but, would the baby be safer with him or Pat?

A hard decision for a good guy to make.

It's a theory.

Not saying it happened on the screen!

Targeted, in the line of fire because they are in the wrong place because of your line of work..... it's all irrelevant because they still get hurt. It's been shown to us time and time again. Bringing this back to Carlos... wanting to be a father to the baby is the same thing as being a father when it comes to the baby's safety. At last we saw, even after mob related activity, he STILL wishes to be the baby's father in theory. I see no reason why he'd hide anything if he truly believes he COULD be the baby's father. It just doesn't make sense.

#24
2014/02/18 12:52PM

Re: Carlos..........

KillerQueen

Quote JaneDoe:

Quote ransomha:

Quote JaneDoe:

Quote ransomha: Think I have figured out Carlos.

Like Jason, Carlos is a mob related hit man. Is that a safe environment to raise a child? Would HIS baby be safer with a doctor and nurse?

IF Sabrina had to raise her baby alone and she needed him, he would step up and take his chances but, if his child and Sabrina is safe he will sacrifice the two things that matter the most to him.

Like Jake, this baby was conceived on a drunken night. What was right the night before didn't look as good the next morning.

While not exactly the same, ( what is? ) there are many similarities . A hit man and a nurse. An unplanned child. The safety of the child and mother. Sacrifice.

Carlos is not an upstanding guy but, when it comes to Sabrina I think he wants to keep her safe as did Jason.

I might buy into that if he were trying to stay away from her for her safety or if he wasn't so adamant about wanting to raise Sabrina's baby as his own. If he was that concerned for her and her baby's safety, he would stay away from her and he wouldn't have even suggested he help her raise her baby. Raising a baby as your own is the same thing as being the father of the baby in the eyes of your enemies. The people you love are targets.... biologically yours or not. Just ask Sonny.

Which of Sonny's children were targeted? A ricocheted bullet is pretty hard to determine where it will go IMO.

When Carlos didn't want Sabrina to go it alone he was willing to step up but, would the baby be safer with him or Pat?

A hard decision for a good guy to make.

It's a theory.

Not saying it happened on the screen!

Targeted, in the line of fire because they are in the wrong place because of your line of work..... it's all irrelevant because they still get hurt. It's been shown to us time and time again. Bringing this back to Carlos... wanting to be a father to the baby is the same thing as being a father when it comes to the baby's safety. At last we saw, even after mob related activity, he STILL wishes to be the baby's father in theory. I see no reason why he'd hide anything if he truly believes he COULD be the baby's father. It just doesn't make sense.

It doesn't make sense to me either. Someone who loves a woman as completely as Carlos loves Savrina NOT confessing he COULD be FOB, no way it that remotely believeable IMO. Meant Sabrina

#25
2014/02/18 12:57PM

Re: Carlos..........

ransomha

Quote KillerQueen:

Quote JaneDoe:

Quote ransomha:

Quote JaneDoe:

Quote ransomha: Think I have figured out Carlos.

Like Jason, Carlos is a mob related hit man. Is that a safe environment to raise a child? Would HIS baby be safer with a doctor and nurse?

IF Sabrina had to raise her baby alone and she needed him, he would step up and take his chances but, if his child and Sabrina is safe he will sacrifice the two things that matter the most to him.

Like Jake, this baby was conceived on a drunken night. What was right the night before didn't look as good the next morning.

While not exactly the same, ( what is? ) there are many similarities . A hit man and a nurse. An unplanned child. The safety of the child and mother. Sacrifice.

Carlos is not an upstanding guy but, when it comes to Sabrina I think he wants to keep her safe as did Jason.

I might buy into that if he were trying to stay away from her for her safety or if he wasn't so adamant about wanting to raise Sabrina's baby as his own. If he was that concerned for her and her baby's safety, he would stay away from her and he wouldn't have even suggested he help her raise her baby. Raising a baby as your own is the same thing as being the father of the baby in the eyes of your enemies. The people you love are targets.... biologically yours or not. Just ask Sonny.

Which of Sonny's children were targeted? A ricocheted bullet is pretty hard to determine where it will go IMO.

When Carlos didn't want Sabrina to go it alone he was willing to step up but, would the baby be safer with him or Pat?

A hard decision for a good guy to make.

It's a theory.

Not saying it happened on the screen!

Targeted, in the line of fire because they are in the wrong place because of your line of work..... it's all irrelevant because they still get hurt. It's been shown to us time and time again. Bringing this back to Carlos... wanting to be a father to the baby is the same thing as being a father when it comes to the baby's safety. At last we saw, even after mob related activity, he STILL wishes to be the baby's father in theory. I see no reason why he'd hide anything if he truly believes he COULD be the baby's father. It just doesn't make sense.

It doesn't make sense to me either. Someone who loves a woman as completely as Carlos loves Savrina NOT confessing he COULD be FOB, no way it that remotely believeable IMO. Meant Sabrina

Carlos is putting Sabrina's wants and needs before his own. That's how much he loves her. She wants the baby to be Pat's. Needs to believe it. The baby would be safer with Pat. Carlos is a good guy. For a killer.

#26
2014/02/18 01:00PM

Re: Carlos..........

Nightmoves

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Quote KillerQueen:

Quote JaneDoe:

Quote ransomha:

Quote JaneDoe:

Quote ransomha: Think I have figured out Carlos.

Like Jason, Carlos is a mob related hit man. Is that a safe environment to raise a child? Would HIS baby be safer with a doctor and nurse?

IF Sabrina had to raise her baby alone and she needed him, he would step up and take his chances but, if his child and Sabrina is safe he will sacrifice the two things that matter the most to him.

Like Jake, this baby was conceived on a drunken night. What was right the night before didn't look as good the next morning.

While not exactly the same, ( what is? ) there are many similarities . A hit man and a nurse. An unplanned child. The safety of the child and mother. Sacrifice.

Carlos is not an upstanding guy but, when it comes to Sabrina I think he wants to keep her safe as did Jason.

I might buy into that if he were trying to stay away from her for her safety or if he wasn't so adamant about wanting to raise Sabrina's baby as his own. If he was that concerned for her and her baby's safety, he would stay away from her and he wouldn't have even suggested he help her raise her baby. Raising a baby as your own is the same thing as being the father of the baby in the eyes of your enemies. The people you love are targets.... biologically yours or not. Just ask Sonny.

Which of Sonny's children were targeted? A ricocheted bullet is pretty hard to determine where it will go IMO.

When Carlos didn't want Sabrina to go it alone he was willing to step up but, would the baby be safer with him or Pat?

A hard decision for a good guy to make.

It's a theory.

Not saying it happened on the screen!

Targeted, in the line of fire because they are in the wrong place because of your line of work..... it's all irrelevant because they still get hurt. It's been shown to us time and time again. Bringing this back to Carlos... wanting to be a father to the baby is the same thing as being a father when it comes to the baby's safety. At last we saw, even after mob related activity, he STILL wishes to be the baby's father in theory. I see no reason why he'd hide anything if he truly believes he COULD be the baby's father. It just doesn't make sense.

It doesn't make sense to me either. Someone who loves a woman as completely as Carlos loves Savrina NOT confessing he COULD be FOB, no way it that remotely believeable IMO. Meant Sabrina

Carlos is putting Sabrina's wants and needs before his own. That's how much he loves her. She wants the baby to be Pat's. Needs to believe it. The baby would be safer with Pat. Carlos is a good guy. For a killer.

What show are you watching

#27
2014/02/18 01:09PM

Re: Carlos..........

KillerQueen

Quote ransomha:

Quote KillerQueen:

Quote JaneDoe:

Quote ransomha:

Quote JaneDoe:

Quote ransomha: Think I have figured out Carlos.

Like Jason, Carlos is a mob related hit man. Is that a safe environment to raise a child? Would HIS baby be safer with a doctor and nurse?

IF Sabrina had to raise her baby alone and she needed him, he would step up and take his chances but, if his child and Sabrina is safe he will sacrifice the two things that matter the most to him.

Like Jake, this baby was conceived on a drunken night. What was right the night before didn't look as good the next morning.

While not exactly the same, ( what is? ) there are many similarities . A hit man and a nurse. An unplanned child. The safety of the child and mother. Sacrifice.

Carlos is not an upstanding guy but, when it comes to Sabrina I think he wants to keep her safe as did Jason.

I might buy into that if he were trying to stay away from her for her safety or if he wasn't so adamant about wanting to raise Sabrina's baby as his own. If he was that concerned for her and her baby's safety, he would stay away from her and he wouldn't have even suggested he help her raise her baby. Raising a baby as your own is the same thing as being the father of the baby in the eyes of your enemies. The people you love are targets.... biologically yours or not. Just ask Sonny.

Which of Sonny's children were targeted? A ricocheted bullet is pretty hard to determine where it will go IMO.

When Carlos didn't want Sabrina to go it alone he was willing to step up but, would the baby be safer with him or Pat?

A hard decision for a good guy to make.

It's a theory.

Not saying it happened on the screen!

Targeted, in the line of fire because they are in the wrong place because of your line of work..... it's all irrelevant because they still get hurt. It's been shown to us time and time again. Bringing this back to Carlos... wanting to be a father to the baby is the same thing as being a father when it comes to the baby's safety. At last we saw, even after mob related activity, he STILL wishes to be the baby's father in theory. I see no reason why he'd hide anything if he truly believes he COULD be the baby's father. It just doesn't make sense.

It doesn't make sense to me either. Someone who loves a woman as completely as Carlos loves Savrina NOT confessing he COULD be FOB, no way it that remotely believeable IMO. Meant Sabrina

Carlos is putting Sabrina's wants and needs before his own. That's how much he loves her. She wants the baby to be Pat's. Needs to believe it. The baby would be safer with Pat. Carlos is a good guy. For a killer.

It MIGHT be a little believeable IF Carlos hadn't already offered to claim the baby as his and help Sabrina rase the baby. He knew the dangers at that time but still offered. There are gentle ways of coming clean IF you have something to come clean about. Carlos doesn't sound gulty he sounds sad as in disapointed

#28
2014/02/18 01:16PM

Re: Carlos..........

ransomha

Quote KillerQueen:

Quote ransomha:

Quote KillerQueen:

Quote JaneDoe:

Quote ransomha:

Quote JaneDoe:

Quote ransomha: Think I have figured out Carlos.

Like Jason, Carlos is a mob related hit man. Is that a safe environment to raise a child? Would HIS baby be safer with a doctor and nurse?

IF Sabrina had to raise her baby alone and she needed him, he would step up and take his chances but, if his child and Sabrina is safe he will sacrifice the two things that matter the most to him.

Like Jake, this baby was conceived on a drunken night. What was right the night before didn't look as good the next morning.

While not exactly the same, ( what is? ) there are many similarities . A hit man and a nurse. An unplanned child. The safety of the child and mother. Sacrifice.

Carlos is not an upstanding guy but, when it comes to Sabrina I think he wants to keep her safe as did Jason.

I might buy into that if he were trying to stay away from her for her safety or if he wasn't so adamant about wanting to raise Sabrina's baby as his own. If he was that concerned for her and her baby's safety, he would stay away from her and he wouldn't have even suggested he help her raise her baby. Raising a baby as your own is the same thing as being the father of the baby in the eyes of your enemies. The people you love are targets.... biologically yours or not. Just ask Sonny.

Which of Sonny's children were targeted? A ricocheted bullet is pretty hard to determine where it will go IMO.

When Carlos didn't want Sabrina to go it alone he was willing to step up but, would the baby be safer with him or Pat?

A hard decision for a good guy to make.

It's a theory.

Not saying it happened on the screen!

Targeted, in the line of fire because they are in the wrong place because of your line of work..... it's all irrelevant because they still get hurt. It's been shown to us time and time again. Bringing this back to Carlos... wanting to be a father to the baby is the same thing as being a father when it comes to the baby's safety. At last we saw, even after mob related activity, he STILL wishes to be the baby's father in theory. I see no reason why he'd hide anything if he truly believes he COULD be the baby's father. It just doesn't make sense.

It doesn't make sense to me either. Someone who loves a woman as completely as Carlos loves Savrina NOT confessing he COULD be FOB, no way it that remotely believeable IMO. Meant Sabrina

Carlos is putting Sabrina's wants and needs before his own. That's how much he loves her. She wants the baby to be Pat's. Needs to believe it. The baby would be safer with Pat. Carlos is a good guy. For a killer.

It MIGHT be a little believeable IF Carlos hadn't already offered to claim the baby as his and help Sabrina rase the baby. He knew the dangers at that time but still offered. There are gentle ways of coming clean IF you have something to come clean about. Carlos doesn't sound gulty he sounds sad as in disapointed

Guess time will tell.

With Pat and Robin's conversations the last two days, Sabrina's baby is about the last thing on his mind. He was ready to go to africa without a second thought and ONLY mentioned coming back for it's birth when Robin pressed him.

As far as Carlos, I think he would do whatever Sabrina needs and wants of him. Claim the baby or not claim the baby,

Say they made love or not.

He wants HER happiness.

#29
2014/02/18 01:20PM

Re: Carlos..........

Nightmoves

Carlos in no way strikes me as the type of guy who would let another man raise his baby just to make someone else 'feel good' or 'happy'.

Carlos strikes me as a proud man who would NEVER let another man claim his baby for ANY reason.

#30
2014/02/18 01:26PM

Re: Carlos..........

Howie79

Quote Nightmoves: Carlos in no way strikes me as the type of guy who would let another man raise his baby just to make someone else 'feel good' or 'happy'.

Carlos strikes me as a proud man who would NEVER let another man claim his baby for ANY reason.

ITA. Also, as it has been pointed out many times, he seems to truly love Sabrina and I just can't believe that any man who loves somone the way he professes to love her, would take advantage of her in that state. And even if he did, I don't think that he would keep it a secret once he learned she was pregnant. He would want her to know that she is carrying his child. And his disappointment when he talked to Julian, it was clear that he wished he was the father of her baby and knew that he wasn't.