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Lunarskylar

2013-07-09 00:55

638 is out

explains how obito pulled his magic trick, however there's doubt on whether or not he still has his mind.

wondering what madara's trump card is

solidguy

2013-07-09 00:57

lawl tobirama getting one shotted like nothing

Emilis

2013-07-09 01:40

Spoiler for 638:

That panel about the seals being different kind of bugged me. Naruto doesn't seem to remember Negato started the resurrection technique with the same seal. The image it showed was after he did Obito's seal. I had just assumed Obito was doing the same thing but didn't have a chance to finish.

guys you should really put anything about 638 in spoiler tags. this isn't the thread for it

Spoiler for but yea:

hashi and tobi just got one-shotted? holy crap... and again, I'm curious to know what personality obito has here. is it juubi's or zetsu's? or is he just a mindless killing machine now? at least if that's the case, we won't hear about rin as much anymore

Lunarskylar

2013-07-09 01:57

Spoiler for reply:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emilis
(Post 4752628)

That panel about the seals being different kind of bugged me. Naruto doesn't seem to remember Negato started the resurrection technique with the same seal. The image it showed was after he did Obito's seal. I had just assumed Obito was doing the same thing but didn't have a chance to finish.

red herring. it probably starts off that way, but obito never changed seals like nagato did i guess

Kafriel

2013-07-09 02:13

hmm...

Spoiler for 638:

Does it really matter that they got sliced in two? They're zombies, so they can just keep coming back, right? As for Obito...it looks like he's losing consciousness, which means it's time for Naruto's talk-no-jutsu to take over with the power of feelings!

itachi-san314

2013-07-09 03:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kafriel
(Post 4752660)

hmm...

Spoiler for 638:

Does it really matter that they got sliced in two? They're zombies, so they can just keep coming back, right? As for Obito...it looks like he's losing consciousness, which means it's time for Naruto's talk-no-jutsu to take over with the power of feelings!

Spoiler for 638:

it's true that they will just regenerate as et zombies, but it says a lot that they could get 1 shotted into that state. it's the senju bros after all. the juubi didn't even intimidate them all that much. obito's power increase is insane. plus hashirama willfully admitted obito is now stronger which makes him the strongest ninja ever aside from the So6P

Tchadnis

2013-07-09 05:12

new chapter is out

Spoiler for 638:

obito stronger then Hashirama the god of shnibo ? that soound like a epic battle

Pentium

2013-07-09 07:09

Time for Naruto to pull something out of his pants it seems or Madara to join the fray as a good guy?

Luminion Lancer

2013-07-09 07:25

...

-If that line expressing confusion at being called Obito is true, maybe I am going to get my wish after all. See, I always maintained that neither Madara nor Obito should be able to succeed in controlling the 10-tails on their own. After all, it took a literal god among men and father of all ninjutsu, Sage of Six Paths, to contain it as its jinchuuriki. Whatever made Obito and Madara (powerful though they may be, but I still say they're not on the Sage's level) think they could do the same is, at the moment, not working. Hopefully the 10-tails rips Obito apart from the inside and Madara's trump card fails miserably, so they finally get the kind of ending they deserve: go down as absolute failures.

Monster0

2013-07-09 07:36

I don't see how in this state Obito can perform infinite tsukuyomi.it's hard to say right now, too soon, because O-bi-to was crazy already.But it seems his mind is fried.Madara obviously can't be ruled out ,and what he has up his sleeve is anybodys guess.

HasuMasu

2013-07-09 07:51

Looks like Final Getsuga Tensho.

shalala

2013-07-09 07:53

I wonder what the 10 tails looks like while in him. Does it talk to Obito, Can obito talk to it? Still for an incompleate version it does look cool. And seeing how Madara side is no longer attached to him he now seems to be free to do what ever he wants that is of course if he can control the 10 tails that inside him. As for Madara other plan I thinking its some kind of seal that he would use on Obito to control his body.

HasuMasu

2013-07-09 07:54

The Ten Tails is supposed to be a force of nature with no will anyway.

~Yami~

2013-07-09 08:47

oh darn!!!! please tell me that's just another mokuton's clone!

I don't want to see Hashirama and Tobirama got ripped like that

last boss is here!!!

Tchadnis

2013-07-09 08:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Yami~
(Post 4753021)

oh darn!!!! please tell me that's just another mokuton's clone!

I don't want to see Hashirama and Tobirama got ripped like that

last boss is here!!!

they are Edo tensei they wouldnt just die like this .. they are like Madara..

Obito didn't seem like a jinchuriki , it looked more like the Bijuu having control over him then him over it

milan kyuubi

2013-07-09 09:09

Obito not being in control could explain that not everyone can do that. This is probably where only Naruto will be able to control it. :heh:

Ero-Senn1n

2013-07-09 11:18

It seems that the 4th hokage will finally have to give his "gift" to Naruto, although i would like to see him fighting a bit more, like half a chapter before he hands the other half of the kyuubi or whatever else his "gift" is to Naruto. It should be a massive powerup, i expected that Hashirama will be defeated eventually so that the new generation comes into the spotlight, but i never expected that it will happen so suddenly and that the power is so overwhelming as we saw it. I hope it's sage mode + full kyuubi mode (with the "gift") that will take the fight to the next level. As for Sasuke, if Naruto gets a powerup but he doesn't that would be kinda strange, bu apart from him getting a rinnegan only when Naruto powers him up i can't think of any other powerup for Sasuke that would have any chance against Obito.

The other possibility is that Obito decides to not fight them directly, in that case Naruto and Sasuke don't need massive powerups right now. In that case he may begin to break down before he begins a direct fight against Naruto and company and then they need much less powerups. Also since it's originally Madara's plan it might be that Madara will block Obito's full control and he should know the weakness of this incomplete 10-tails.

It would also be nice if in the next chapter we get some sage of the 6 paths "lore", because right now this "final form" stuff doesn't make much sense if we don't know what's the difference. In DBZ in case of Cell or Freeza it was clear what's happening, but here there's no information at all until now.