Have you noticed any performance issues, or haven't you had it long enough to assess?

I think it probably happens with all smartphones over time. The iPhone 4's in the family are quite laggy these days. Even so, i've heard of Android phones not being as responsive over time.

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So far had it for 8 weeks or so and seems not laggy but i'm not a heavy user either. I did watch some of the Olympics and the US Open on it. I also used it for Sirius radio, other radio stations, and Pandora which did lag a bit but I heard it is a Pandora problem. I used the Carfax app to read the serial number of a car I wanted to buy and give me its history instantly. Bought the car. I also transferred files back and forth from my PC to the phone wirelessy using WIFI. i understand that you can also access naughty internet sites with it also.

I know. There's a third radio required for CDMA to support voice + data at the same time. When you talk and browse, the voice connection drops to a 3G wave, while the data streams over LTE. Because Apple combined everything in the one chip, there are only two radios so it's not supported.

With that said, when Voice over LTE deploys, it will render the third radio useless, as the LTE connection will simultaneously support an LTE voice signal as well as an LTE data stream. This is likely why Apple left the additional radio out. In a number of months (hopefully, lol), the third radio will just be a waste of space.

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Yep, that's probably one reason. And as the article pointed out, another reason might be that if Apple included support for it, they would incur a weight and size cost, which makes it bulkier and it starts looking more like a Samsung device (the irony). The form factor is part of what makes the iPhone somewhat unique and why the masses (aka sheep) flock to it.

LOL. A little reminder for me on a Friday morning that it's not Apple I despise, it's their fanboys!

Jimmy Peralta, a 30-year-old business management student, waited three hours before getting the chance to buy his new gadget. Was it worth the wait?

"Definitely," he said, noting that the new phone's larger screen and lighter weight compelled him to upgrade from the iPhone 4. "A little treat for me on a Friday morning, why not. Why not be part of something fantastic? It's just such a smart phone it does all the thinking for you, you can't get any easier than that."

Man I hope battery life is that good for everyone. I know the LTE EVO made huge strides there. The problem is sprint was so bad that the phone grinded on battery searching for signal when njot on wifi.

Another thing I love about iOS, is if you like to make music on their apps. Loowww latency. Droid never fixed this issue, and they plan to try and get it under 10ms in Jellybean. Which some people will never get.

Another thing I love about iOS, is if you like to make music on their apps. Loowww latency. Droid never fixed this issue, and they plan to try and get it under 10ms in Jellybean. Which some people will never get.

But you're in the minority of those that have 4.0, with a solid processor and memory.

Everyone I know that has an Android phone made from 2009-July 2011 hates it. There is a huge difference in quality between the 1st half of 2011 and 2nd half of 2011 in terms of quality of phones, and likelihood of getting updates.

It's too bad that 4.0/4.1 are such good OSes, but only 1/5 Android users have that OS on their phones. 4/5 are in the dark now, and likely will be going forward.

But you're in the minority of those that have 4.0, with a solid processor and memory.

Everyone I know that has an Android phone made from 2009-July 2011 hates it. There is a huge difference in quality between the 1st half of 2011 and 2nd half of 2011 in terms of quality of phones, and likelihood of getting updates.

It's too bad that 4.0/4.1 are such good OSes, but only 1/5 Android users have that OS on their phones. 4/5 are in the dark now, and likely will be going forward.

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It wasn't laggy when I had Gingerbread. Nor was my original Motorola Droid laggy from over 2 years ago...

But you're in the minority of those that have 4.0, with a solid processor and memory.

Everyone I know that has an Android phone made from 2009-July 2011 hates it. There is a huge difference in quality between the 1st half of 2011 and 2nd half of 2011 in terms of quality of phones, and likelihood of getting updates.

It's too bad that 4.0/4.1 are such good OSes, but only 1/5 Android users have that OS on their phones. 4/5 are in the dark now, and likely will be going forward.

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What sucks the worst is when my current EVO freezes up and runs slow because of the multitasking issue it has, they aren't even sure if Jellybean will fix it. And then the next question is when does Jellybean come out? And no one knows.

HTC basically programs the phone to aggressively kill apps to save battery. Problem is that they close and reopen over and over so fast that it actually lags the phone. iOS is great because you can just close the apps out in the tray and they are done. So much easier.

I've had a whirl with the sat nav now. The largest issue here is the search functionality, and the way we've got used to functioning under Google; you chuck in the name of a place or a business, and it finds it. Apple's tries to do the same, but has two issues. First, it simply doesn't have the same number of addresses in the database, so a lot of things get missed. Second, it has a habit of thinking it's got the right match when it hasn't. You don't get a list of matches to select the correct one - it seems to either be a yes or no affair. In instances where there are multiple matches (as an example, if you make a generic search such as 'Starbucks'), it will put down pins for the 4 closest matches to your current location. I found myself reverting to either postcode lookup, or finding the location on the map and dropping a pin there myself.

Once it's going, it seems ok. When planning a longer journey (about 35 miles), it gave me three routes on an overview so I could pick the most suitable. I'm not sure if it adjusts for traffic or not: there are some red lines on the map when traffic builds up, but I didn't at any point get warned audibly. Perhaps it already caters for this on the route, so doesn't see the point.

Battery gets absolutely eaten when it's running. A 15 minute journey took it down 10%. Again, not a huge problem as you'd usually be charging in the car, but worth considering if you don't store a cable there and may find yourself wanting to use the sat nav on the fly. This is on the 4S; hopefully it's handled better on the 5.

It wasn't laggy when I had Gingerbread. Nor was my original Motorola Droid laggy from over 2 years ago...

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Then you're lucky, because you've had very different experiences from most Android owners I know, as well as from the people who discuss this stuff online. Gingerbread 2.3 and the OSes before, are widely regarded as awful. I loved each of my Android phones for the first 3-6 months each, only to watch them disintegrate into a pile of garbage.

My current phone won't post FB statuses, but it will post comments on other people's statuses. If I try to multitask, apps force close. The phone itself moves slowly, normal processes crawl along. It lags switching home screens, and the battery lasts about 10 hours of me not using the phone at all. If I used it heavily, I'd get 3-4 hours of juice, no joke.

Again, in December of 2010 this was the best Android phone on TMobile, and one of the best Androids on the market, period. It had the most memory of anything out there, a good processor at the time and had really impressive benchmarks. That feeling didn't last long.

The current crop of Android phones is in a different class, so obviously I'm not holding anything against Android now...There are things about the OS I love and will miss, and the current superphones are very impressive. It's disappointing that so few users have an up to date OS, but it's still a very strong platform. Market share doesn't lie in that regard.

iPhones aren't the be all end all for tech, and while it falls short in some areas, it excels in others (imo, anyway). All I know is after three years of consistent frustration, I'm ready for a different experience. I'll know soon enough if I've made a mistake.

I've had a whirl with the sat nav now. The largest issue here is the search functionality, and the way we've got used to functioning under Google; you chuck in the name of a place or a business, and it finds it. Apple's tries to do the same, but has two issues. First, it simply doesn't have the same number of addresses in the database, so a lot of things get missed. Second, it has a habit of thinking it's got the right match when it hasn't. You don't get a list of matches to select the correct one - it seems to either be a yes or no affair. In instances where there are multiple matches (as an example, if you make a generic search such as 'Starbucks'), it will put down pins for the 4 closest matches to your current location. I found myself reverting to either postcode lookup, or finding the location on the map and dropping a pin there myself.

Once it's going, it seems ok. When planning a longer journey (about 35 miles), it gave me three routes on an overview so I could pick the most suitable. I'm not sure if it adjusts for traffic or not: there are some red lines on the map when traffic builds up, but I didn't at any point get warned audibly. Perhaps it already caters for this on the route, so doesn't see the point.

Battery gets absolutely eaten when it's running. A 15 minute journey took it down 10%. Again, not a huge problem as you'd usually be charging in the car, but worth considering if you don't store a cable there and may find yourself wanting to use the sat nav on the fly. This is on the 4S; hopefully it's handled better on the 5.

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Maps definitely seem to be an issue on iOS6. Seems like Google will release this app soon enough (Google apparently has an app waiting on Apple's approval), so that should help, but it feels like a misstep from Apple here.

To the bolded, 10% in 15 minutes isn't bad. I've gone 15-20 minutes of turn by turn on my current phone and lost 25-30% of the battery. It seems to cripple any device as a data hog. Getting in dash nav in my car was the best decision ever.

Server I have a brand new Droid and I am still in the same spot. It starts off great than after a few months just becomes a mess for reasons I described prior.

I'd probably just accept and deal with it. I mean I rooted it, and did all kinds of tweaks so I could just kep searching for that magic ROM to use. But when you combine the OS lagging out, battery getting crushed due to excessive force closing, and then add in the sprint service, it just hits a point where it is time to move on. I could not justify paying my smartphone fee to them (I have to pay for a signal booster as well for my home) when I pay the exact same price for Verizon (no booster needed) and have a phone that I believe I will like better due to my experience with iOS.

Think I will probably always defer to google maps..they arejust really good at it, but the apple maps on my ipad is not bad. I have not messed with it too much.

I shall respectfully disagree here, because the Maps are awful. The issue isn't so much what they look like (some of the UK satellite imagery is under a cloud... though you could argue that's what it's like most of the time ), but the data.

There's no other major issue I can see that's been introduced with iOS 6, but if you use Maps a lot then it's an absolute clanger.

What sucks the worst is when my current EVO freezes up and runs slow because of the multitasking issue it has, they aren't even sure if Jellybean will fix it. And then the next question is when does Jellybean come out? And no one knows.

HTC basically programs the phone to aggressively kill apps to save battery. Problem is that they close and reopen over and over so fast that it actually lags the phone. iOS is great because you can just close the apps out in the tray and they are done. So much easier.

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Yeah I've had all these issues as well, and the fragmentation/JB issue is a big one. HTC One X and GSIII will likely get updates, but everything else? It's doubtful. At some point, the fragmentation will catch up with the superphones as well, only the Nexus devices will get every update, but those are underwhelming phones imo (Galaxy Nexus currently has the worst camera of any top end phone).

btw-
did anyone know the reason for the unique smoothness of the iphone motion while sweeping, sliding zooming etc.,is that the IOS uses 60fps, while Android uses 30fps !
i always tried to argue with people that Android just doesn't have that smooth motion in my eyes.
now i know i was right

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did anyone know the reason for the unique smoothness of the iphone motion while sweeping, sliding zooming etc.,is that the IOS uses 60fps, while Android uses 30fps !
i always tried to argue with people that Android just doesn't have that smooth motion in my eyes.
now i know i was right

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You are right. They are trying to fix that in jellybean, but every app will have to be updated. And without a doubt it makes a big difference.

In a survey of iPhone 5 buyers in New York this morning, Topeka Capital found 50% of them were upgrading to Apple's latest phone from the iPhone 4S.

Topeka Capital's survey also found 11% of people were upgrading from the iPhone 4, 3% from the iPhone 3GS, and 36% were first-time iPhone owners.

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Bold is my own. If even 10% of those first time iPhone buyers are Android/BB converts, it means Apple will pick up market share even though hard core tech fans have found the 5 to be underwhelming. I know a lot of Android users who plan to convert...Will be interesting to see if this trend is similar across all buyers.

The reason the call of duty series took off so fast for xbox was because it was 60FPS (besides being a highly addictive shooter). Everyone was blown away by how smooth it was.

I would read game developers try and say it didnt make a huge difference, but you could always tell.

Agree the Nexus is underwhelming. It was one of the phones I could have gotten, but it just didnt really do much for me when I checked it out.

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yea someone told me that android will catch up on this eventually,
and you proved it right.
question is, will it work really smoothly THE SAME AS IOS? or "not exactly"?
the 60fps factor was the first thing that made me choose iphone.
30fps just irritates my eyes. i'm sensitive to this stuff.

Anyway there are plenty of reasons to show why many of us here will go Apple, and the fact that anyone would criticize us for it shows their immaturity. Its all about what works for you as a phone.

If it is good enough for JDali, I know I will dig it.

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to tell the truth i don't really care if i'll have an Iphone or other phone (except for the 60fps rule!!! and no additional headaches),
i still can even hang to my Iphone 4 for a while, but the lack of some functions starting to be missing on the newer IOS update is a downer.
and i THINK i notice some more minor slowness after installing IOS6.
however i do think a bigger screen is now essential, though i'm not so sure if the bigger 5 screen will be now sufficient for watching movies/tube.
IS IT?