The more realistic the training, the better people perform under the real thing. Making the training as realistic as possible is essential for our
first responders to do a good job.

Some of the comments are hyperbole. Having been in that sort of training and the real deal, a simulation still is a pale imitation of reality but you
do the best you can to make the training as realistic as possible. This sort of thing has been going on for decades and moulage has become very
sophisticated over the years.

Originally posted by beatbox
You guys are missing the point...this is nt about the troops. It's about the paid actors....

I must admit, ATS has some very great artful dodgers and spin artists...you guys are GOOD!!!

But I digress...

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Please tell me how exactly you can get realism without using actors?
No using a medsim training dummy is not the same as using a human being in a fluid situation.

I'm scratching my head here...the military, firefighters, EMT, and healthcare professionals have been using actors and moulage to train for emergency
and casualty situations for decades. It is nothing new and it has never been a secret and the intent is to both give the best possible training and
also to desensitize the first responders so they don't freeze the first time they have to deal with a casualty. It is a leap of illogicality to assume
that the fact these programs exist means that they were used in any particular bombing or shooting.

A conspiracy using paid actors defies logic as well. Why use hundreds of actors to pretend a bomb went off when you could just use a real bomb? A
single patsy bomber is less likely to spill your evil plans than hundreds of patsy actors.

Go to 1:47 in the video. I would think that's the same moment in the video...screaming at her. And it clearly looks like a woman..

Thank you! Finally someone who actually saw her getting yelled at also. She was like jogging or walking pretty quick and looks like she is startled as
the "cop" yells get outta hear and maybe even pushes her camera down or her away.

In real life, police and military personnel are trained to fire at the center of mass (read: chest/heart), as the head is a small target that likes
moving around a lot, while the center of mass is a relatively easy target that moves with the subject and also has lots of vital organs in it. And
even if you miss, you might hit a limb (or, yes, the head) instead.

Go to 1:47 in the video. I would think that's the same moment in the video...screaming at her. And it clearly looks like a woman..

Thank you! Finally someone who actually saw her getting yelled at also. She was like jogging or walking pretty quick and looks like she is startled as
the "cop" yells get outta hear and maybe even pushes her camera down or her away.

You mean this woman??

The one that had her hands over her ears the entire time?

The photo of her being "yelled" at was taken by Flickr user "hahatango". She is in 6 photos taken that day & every single one of them she has her
hands over her ears.

I realize the thrust of this thread's discussion is whether the video is in fact "rare" or "forbidden," the gender of the videographer, and the
efficacy of using actors and amputees in crisis training scenarios, so I hope I am not entirely off-topic by suggesting this video has content that
could help make an argument that some or all of the Boston Bombing could have been staged for some nefarious purpose. Those other points seem rather
tertiary to me when considering the greater ramifications of this event so please pardon my insolence in case that implication is already resolved.

My conspiracy-mindedness suggests some of the aftermath of that event such as the lockdown and neighborhood searches, flashing citizens with gunpoint
as they peer out their windows, that this could have been used to condition a people to elements of martial law. I know, rather far-fetched notion
that things like that could happen in America.

Originally posted by Erongaricuaro
I realize the thrust of this thread's discussion is whether the video is in fact "rare" or "forbidden," the gender of the videographer, and the
efficacy of using actors and amputees in crisis training scenarios, so I hope I am not entirely off-topic by suggesting this video has content that
could help make an argument that some or all of the Boston Bombing could have been staged for some nefarious purpose. Those other points seem rather
tertiary to me when considering the greater ramifications of this event so please pardon my insolence in case that implication is already resolved.

My conspiracy-mindedness suggests some of the aftermath of that event such as the lockdown and neighborhood searches, flashing citizens with gunpoint
as they peer out their windows, that this could have been used to condition a people to elements of martial law. I know, rather far-fetched notion
that things like that could happen in America.

It's not far fetched at all, sir. What you said makes much more sense then what's being shoved down the masses throats...

Originally posted by beatbox
You guys are missing the point...this is nt about the troops. It's about the paid actors....

I must admit, ATS has some very great artful dodgers and spin artists...you guys are GOOD!!!

But I digress...

edit on 19-7-2013 by beatbox because: (no reason given)

it's called cognitive dissonance
you used to get the same responses if you posted a thread regarding what is now known as PRISM/Snowden revelations
the same responses: "HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE you're crazy/paranoid/an idiot, They wouldn't do that, you're an anti american hater, you're a fearmonger,
HATE HATE HATE YOU YOU LIAR!"

now that everyone knows Big Brother is no longer fictional, the "Sane" have to over compensate on other matters

never mind all the times that:
-the authorities "stopping a terrorist " turns out to be an entrapment/setup
-the media is caught lying and even photoshopping pictures of a suspect to make them look scarier/crazy/more fitting hollywood images of a
psychopaths
-the authorities have made blatant announcements of having paid trolls working online to manipulate perception and opinion

-those being sold to us as "the "good guys/ heroes and GREAT LEADERS" are mass-murderers,psychopaths, pathological liars, and GREEDHEADS who perform
human sacrifices for their lust of money .

you beatbox, while possibly wrong in terms of details and scope, [the last desperate, nit-picking "hope" of the "sane"]

Originally posted by ken10
Was the "Bomb" planted inside that shop ?......Sure looks like the explosion happened from inside the shop blowing the glass outwards ???

That's what I see from that video.

When you have an explosion, the blast goes outwards, and then back inwards and up (like a mushroom cloud).
So the glass gets shattered, pushed inwards, and flies back outwards as well. That's why they had X's taped over all the windows in the old World
War II movies. It was all they before safety glass was invented.

I have to agree, the actor theory seems illogical. More than likely this was a false flag to bring TSA to the streets and to see if they could
lock down a major city, but there is no reason for actors. They killed thousands during 9/11, I'm sure blowing up a few Bostonians would be no big
deal.

Sorry but fuzzy videos reveal nothing.
One thing does puzzle me though:
With all that broken glass and 2 other windows in the apartments on the 2nd story were broken as well NOBODY was reported injured by falling glass.
If people were standing where the glass fell they would get cut and quite badly.
Something doesn;t jibe - either the numbers of people in the area were not what they were reported as being or .........not gonna go there but you
know what I mean.

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