If you start questioning the "historical accuracy" behind other video games it really falls apart very quickly
This game isn't even trying to be accurate, it wanted to put a hyper wacky but dark spin on WW2, which DICE knows has been reskinned onto different brands countless times and is still bloated even a full decade after the demise of WW2 shooters

Oh yeah, I'm sure it's just a coincidence there's suddenly so many women, people of color and homos in games. Totally nothing to do with any political bias the companies may have, something that should be illegal to reflect in games. This idiotic trend is spreading to all forms of media, and everything it touches it contaminates and kills, like a virus.
Besides, nobody believes nor likes it when females exhibit so many male traits for no reason. Nobody likes it when faggotry is forced down our throats. When the agenda is clearly there, people wince and are dissatisfied.

Literally every single avenue a developer can take in the white male protagonists department has been milked dry at the start of this decade. Not one has been any different from whatever has been done in the past.

they do it cuz it increases their audience.
also because the liberal media gives games that push the liberal agenda positive press and more attention = aka free advertising and free marketing.
SJW games = sign of the times!

The only truth here is that they are pressured and forced to do that by all those leftists, feminists and sjw's.
And no it doesnt increase their audience, see bf, wolf, cod all hated and start to fall apart.
Forced politics - forced cuz majority of people are against it yet it still goes on, affects and destroy games. Same with movies, see star wars: the last sjw or thor: ragnarok (black valkyrie LUL).
But people start to realize that and hate it (justified) so i think it wont last long. At least i hope so.

or maybe there was political bias before that led to 99.99% of game protagonists being cishet white dudes and now people want to see variety. there was a clear agenda for all the white dudes in charge of making these games to make everything about white dudes. i mean it's just so unrealistic. white men make up about 17% of the world population, so shouldn't only 17% of games have white men as protagonists?

There was no bias before, whites are just the most relatable, attractive and fit to be the center of attention. Nobody complained about BJ, Nathan Drake, Joel, Kratos and Geralt, know why? Because they're great fucking characters. That certainly didn't stop gamers loving characters like Lara, Faith, Ciri. There were less females in games, but considering the people who play games are 90% male, that's how it should be. Before, there was balance.
Quality is thrown out the window in favor of political agenda now. ME Andromeda was a massive flop, the laughing stock of the internet. Everyone can see through it, everyone dislikes it: nobody wants to play as a lesbo in a zombie game, nobody wants to play with BJ's daughters instead of him, nobody wants to play a black soldier in a war that had 99.9% whites - that's not only wrong as hell but disrespectful to the people who died.
Lastly, whites pretty much built the modern world. The race has achieved far more than all others combined, so... it's pretty fair they get represented in media more.

Colonialism??? Free France, Soviet union, British Africa, British Raj and regular immigrants all fought in Europe, and with white men. The Tirailleurs Senegalais liberated Paris, and so few french could be used for the victory parade that most of the images of liberation were spanish communists.

It's funny how people choose or are uneducated to the fact that women DID fight on the front lines, whether it be on the front lines for the Soviets or used in the Air Force for multiple countries... but you tell anyone else that then you're an "SJW". World's full of uneducated monkeys who choose to be triggered over anything and make up bullshit allegations

What does having a prosthetic arm have to do with women fighting on the front lines retard lol. We're not talking about the game details we're talking about women serving in the military during the war..

Just giving insight in the reason why many people might not like the head character, have you ever thought about the possibility that it's not JUST about the fact that it's a woman you're playing but also about how she is presented, the prosthetic arm and the blue face paint. Do you think maybe that's the reason why people are "triggered" and call you an SJW for defending that when the devs made a huge point that immersion is what they're aiming for? Also, you're ignoring the fact that the female protagonist is British and that British women were not allowed to serve on the frontline.
From: De Groot, Gerard J. "`I Love the Scent of Cordite in Your Hair': Gender Dynamics in Mixed Anti-Craft Batteries"
Whilst women were limited in some of their roles, they were expected to perform to the same standard as a male soldier performing the same role, and although they could not participate in frontline combat, they still manned anti-aircraft guns and defences which actively engaged hostile aircraft above Britain. Women went through the same military training, lived in the same conditions and did almost the same jobs as men, with the exception of not being able to participate in front-line combat. This small but important distinction meant that women did not tend to be nominated for medals of valour or bravery, because they were only awarded for "active operations against enemy in the field", which women could not take part in.

I totally agree with what you're saying, it was morons like #8 I was referring to. I was never once talking about game details though in which yes, if people are annoyed towards the fact the game is factually incorrect in the aspect of which nation a person is from being on the front lines or having access to weapons/features like a prosthetic arm then they have the right to be upset about it... but 9 times outta 10 it's people like #8 saying "how many women and minorities served in ww2?" that spout the same bullshit that it becomes extremely frustrating to read

"but 9 times outta 10 it's people like #8 saying "how many women and minorities served in ww2?" that spout the same bullshit that it becomes extremely frustrating to read"
its also extremely frustrating to read retards like you justifying 1% and single fuckin examples as a reason to spread lies and historical inaccuracy, moron. Respect other nation's and race's history and culture you racist little fck.

yes, but 1% does not justify for placing them everywhere, on cover art, in the center of trailer, no it should reflect their historical roles and importance which obviously was almost zero.
So yes, its all about SJW's and political correctness, we both know that difference is that you deny it and i dont.

white men make up only around 17% of the world population, therefore only 17% of video game characters should be white men. that's how your logic works. if all media had to representative of the lowest common denominator then EVERYTHING would be about asian men. sound good to you?

nah there were probably some single individual examples but definitely not to that extent as those games and sjw supporters reflect them, so yes - its all about political correctness and anti-white idealism. Thats why i show them my middle finger all the time :)

lul, bf 5 is pretty much the first game that had so much political hate yet you're already saying that we cry more than sjw's. Trust me man, they cry far more, for far longer time and i'd even say we allowed them that for far too long. It has to end or soon our kids will learn in schools that WW2 was won by black jewish women or something like that.
Its really retarded and anyone with some brain should support every anti-sjw move etc. all time.

the only regular frontline unit with women was polish independent emilia plater battalion. non whites from colonies also had their own units. there were some small negro units in us army in the end of the wear too.

What are you gonna do about it you little basement dwelling virgin?? Go cry to your friends on 4chan about it? Lmao the embarrassment of calling someone else beta when here you sit crying over the fact you can play as a girl in a game, you're fucking pathetic

tell that to leftists. they get triggered by literally everything in pop culture. that's why we get things like SJW-Star Wars and SJW-COD. #oscarsowhite <-- black people triggered by anything
leftists are the kings of getting triggered.
why shouldn't people who play games object to things that get developed into their games anyway. that's what people who play games do.

it's not even about that. nothing wrong with games with different protagonists at all. in fact it can be original.
but that's not what this is. games can't even be games any more. just like movies and tv shows can't have artistic freedom any more. they are politicising them purposely.
can't portray ww2 as white or male-dominated now cuz that is too discriminatory and not diverse. this is where we're at. people are defending this lunacy as common sense.

it's censorship... they didn't like ww2 for being too white and male and they don't like swastikas. so they simply rewrote it. what don't you get about it?
your leftists friends got triggered by those things. it's like getting triggered by a chilli for being too spicy.
that is 2018 tho. censorship by the left who get triggered and people pretending it's normal how they just rewrite shit.
you don't get it at all. it's not so much that the game is being more inclusive it's that they are rewriting games based to be more politically correct.
it's just like when the writer of the sopranos said they wouldn't make the sopranos in 2018 because the cast was all white and because there were racist themes/humour.
2018 = censorship in the arts.

+1
Nobody cares about women in games when it's historically accurate, I'd love a good ww2 game where you can play as a female Russian sniper or a cool historical game about Amazones or something where the female protagonist actually makes sense just to show people how it could be done. I just don't like it when Game devs lazily take something out of history and rewrite it and just put in a woman where it doesn't make sense at all.
More original games please.

nah that's bullshit. also, you're talking about the definition of "free speech", in regards to what it constitutes legally. not what "censorship" means meight.
it's a fucked up idea you have anyway. and you're trying to defend it by playing one of those leftist semantic games. like when they say you can't be racist against white people because only institutional racism is "real racism".
i swear leftism actively encourages it's adherents to be dishonest and to practice doublethink and doublespeak...
imagine trying to justify your fucked up actions by trying to throw down a dictionary lmao.
ITS STILL FUCKED UP MATE.
censorship is tyranny and immoral.

+1 this guy you're arguing with is a total idiot. Perfect example of a typical double-think double-speak leftist, you destroyed him.
He seems like one of those bugs who would think shit like "well just because there have been tyrannical governments in the past doesn't mean it's going to happen to me with my government" as he willingly votes to give away more and more of his freedoms

The Last of Us? How?
Battlefield, well the first trailer was pretty much to show how you can customize your character in the game. I don't really mind as long as it sticks to MP. BF isn't a game meant for immersion.
Wolfenstein, i've checked it out and see nothing SJW

No it does not.
The last of us showed us a lesbian scene of them kissing for like 10s.. totally inappropiate It's a game, not a showcase of how "politically correct we showing ourselfs to the SJW's" so we please the big whiney babies, that complain for dumbshit.
Battlefield (ok they fixed it for the E3 trailer) but the past trailer they showed how a women with a proesthetic arm, red haired, and in front line combat, it technically "represents" it's WW2, games are not supposed to be exactly real, I fucking know, but that was also just retarded.
Assassins creed as well, since when is it a about a female spartan or whatever? they didnt even respect the game history. I dont care i respect women, but do it right. The main character used to be always a man, (and it makes sense, as it "represents" the ancient spartans.. i guess there were no female warriors in that age but oh well)

As I said in my previous post, it's totally appropriate. It's part of the story, like in any movie and so on. What humans did the best throughout their history was fucking and killing each other. Nothing wrong if it's homosexual stuff, if that's the character's identity. That doesn't really have any importance to me whatsoever. Other civilizations definitely didn't care about homosexuality or not :D
The first trailer of BFV was quite retarded but at the same time, they didn't announce it to be a showcase of how multiplayer customization would be. And multiplayer is never about realism, it's just a "theme". Single player is a different story.
Ancient Greece had very different standards, I don't know much about it. It seems unlikely a woman would be on the front line especially, but I could be wrong. THe woman would probably have to be quite tall and large to at least match the physique of the men.

The problem is not that Ellie is gay, the problem is how much big of a deal they made of it to have to have the gay kiss as a big part of the trailer.
If she was hetero that scene would probably never have happened ever, it is pretty obvious its just catering.
Impartially speaking, completely unecessary, but hey I don't give a shit, it is just obvious its catering is all, just realize it is, accept it is just catering and move on with your life.

I already said in my own comment I can understand the issue with BF, "I understand the battlefield historical inaccuracy issues"
You know in the new AC you have the ability to choose between a male and female character? youtube.com/watch?v=TZ8O-rMhOQQ&t=761s (sorry if the time mark is broken, its 58 seconds in)
For the Last of us trailer I can see that the kissing scene seems drawn out, but it is there to show a direct comparison between old life and current life. This is presented by ending that scene and returning with another close up, which begins in a seemingly similar fashion until the main protagonist proceeds to shiv an enemy in the jugular. The gruesome nature of this scene shows how drastically life has changed.

Did you play the original TLOU/DLC?
She kissed a girl in there too, it's obvious that from a young age she found herself to be interested in women, they didn't just shoehorn that shit in there. If that were the case, I would've been confused as fuck, but it was an established part of her character and they were developing her character in this portion, not to just show off "hey look we got lesbians."

You can understand why they do this now. COD:WW2 made as much money as COD:Infinite Warfare so probably no one cares about redheaded black nazi female soldiers and Swastikas being erased from the in-game portrayal of WW2.
so why not go full retard and just make every game politically correct and push the liberal agenda over all other gameplay considerations?
you buy AAA dev's games and you contribute to this leftist nonsense. enjoy!

i'm sure it's fun. i'm just saying it's not an unconscious design.
big business pushes the SJW agenda because they think it increases the appeal of their products to a wider market.
it's just smth AAA devs do now. and if you don't agree with having the liberal agenda thrown in your face you have to buy from non-AAA devs.

don't you miss the old times? gta san andreas - black protagonist, steals a bike in first mission.
walking dead game - black protagonist, starts the game in a backseat of a police car. game devs cant get away with these anymore.

Well the kiss made a good visual transition to the gameplay and back so I don't really see the problem. On russian forums I saw some people being mad that the other girl was ugly which kind of broke their wet lesbian porn stereotypes I guess :D

Because of time. WW2 existed, there was a second world war, no denies. And now, when SJW are ruling the media they introduce female characters, in a game that took place in a real 'event of history'.
Why didn't they introduce a female as the main character in any of their previous games, when the story plot wasn't an actual moment of real life of history?

I used to play BF up to BF3 and Cod until mw2, after that it was obvious they would keep churning out watered down clones so why bother? It does not even has to do with sjwism, although it is annoying.

next game is going to be based on the 300 spartans at thermopylae.
except it will be 300 gender-diverse non-binary transpeople of colour with not a white person to be seen.
cuz that would be racist and sexist.

Nobody cares about women in games when it's historically accurate, I'd love a good ww2 game where you can play as a female Russian sniper or a cool historical game about Amazones or something where the female protagonist actually makes sense just to show people how it could be done. I just don't like it when Game devs lazily take something out of history and rewrite it and just put in a woman where it doesn't make sense at all.
More original games please.

false, it's a time-proven fact and thanks to sjws in next decade you'll have protagonists like 300lb beatiful black transgender female on wheelchair who identify itself as asexual microwave oven and shooting laser beams from amputated head
cod 2002: you can play as historically correct american, british, german or soviet grim male soldier
cod 2017: you can play as shiny black female nazi soldier.... wait, whaaat?? sjws totally didn't ruin games lmao
btw isn't it misogyny if you wanna throw women into war, a paradise of death, gore and violence?
anyway i lost interest in modern games cause most of them are 6-7h movies based on casual press-one-key-to-win concept

"false, it's a time-proven fact and thanks to sjws in next decade you'll have protagonists like 300lb beatiful black transgender female on wheelchair who identify itself as asexual microwave oven and shooting laser beams from amputated head"
Balderdash... You claim it's factual, but the plausibility of your wild comparison is entirely based on your opinion alone.
"cod 2002: you can play as historically correct american, british, german or soviet grim male soldier
cod 2017: you can play as shiny black female nazi soldier.... wait, whaaat?? sjws totally didn't ruin games lmao"
You didn't play any Call of Duty games at all if you proclaim SJW's had anything to do with changing the protagonist. The creators themselves shipped series from historic to modern, not SJW's... They merely created the hideous fanbase we know, love and dislike.
"btw isn't it misogyny if you wanna throw women into war, a paradise of death, gore and violence?"
Are you pressing from IRL events, or this another blemish? Were women at war in reality? Is it fine to put them in a video game? This isn't SJW cultism, it's moral, common sense.
"anyway i lost interest in modern games cause most of them are 6-7h movies based on casual press-one-key-to-win concept"
Eh? So why claim fact then if you've outright admitted to have had no interaction at all with modern games?
You are posting fallacy, not fact. :/

i admit only that i don't play casual games, games with misleading title and games filled with hidden propaganda so don't try to overturn my words into your scenario
if leftists actually read books and get educated in school instead of participating in sjw cuckery they'd know from biology lessons that not even twin brothers/sisters are the same and no one is equal
you can mark me as hitler v2, call fbi, bullyhunters and whatever, this is my opinion based on own experience and multiple sources with undeniable facts and no internet stranger would make me believe into modern anti-scientific sjw stories

so finally this turned into civil conversation
don't get me wrong, as a guy who played "real" games i'm pretty disappointed in modern ones, i.e. hitman silent assassin vs absolution, heroes of might and magic 2-3 vs 4-5-6, original cossacks vs absolutely unplayable and buggy remaster aka cossacks 3, old c&c like ra2/yr/generals vs post ra3 and freshly announced on e3 "rivals" for casual mobile gamers, even ps1/ps2 games were more hard and interesting than modern pc ones etc, it can turn into endless talk if we really start discussing it
and during last few years i've noticed that sjw trends started affecting games too, i mean if i wanna play game please let it be just game, i don't need all this hidden propaganda and whatever else bullshit to screw or affect plot/scenario/historical corectness like excessively stating in every dialog/cgi that main character is gay/lesbian/muslim/female/*insert any "oppressed minority" from sjw handbook*, fighting on social medias for months cause some nearly invisible symbol/character/whatever you'd see in game for a few seconds triggered some basement-dwelling "activists", removing runes/swastika/hammer&sickle in ww2 games, rewriting scenario to fit "political correctness", be "sjw-friendly" etc
have a nice day as well

You're totally right about the SJW culture we live in having an effect on the protagonists the developers put into games now.
Battlefield 1942: all white men (historically accurate)
Battlefield 5: the devs literally said its time for females to be in these games and that's why there are so many in 5.
It's so obvious to anyone with half a brain, and the reason for this shit is the SJW culture that has infiltrated most of gaming.
Look at Gears of War 1: super tough high testosterone men fighting super tough aliens.
Now Gears 4 and 5: Female soldiers (that in reality wouldn't even be half as strong as the male soldier) going through and "kicking ass" it's so cringey and my suspension of disbelief is ruined when I see shit like Last of Us 2, 100lb Ellie choking out and taking down a 200lb muscular dude.

Ahem.. Mass effect andromeda
They hired incompetent feminists to do their facial animations, and that explains itself. Had gay scenes that were blatant sjw propaganda. If you can't understand how hiring people due to their gender or beliefs doesn't ruin games, especially since sjws are just wannabe victims who are terrible at everything they do, then you're just blinded by your own "equality agenda".
There's many videos on this and it's so blatant that this game was ruined because of them
youtube.com/watch?v=0hLp0k4_UOc&t=156s

1. Promotes a "resistance" theme of "killing nazis" to "save America!" Notice any obvious parallels to today's political climate, where everyone who voted for Trump is somehow a NAZI and the big bad RESISTANCE is gonna "bash the fash"?
2. Promotes white genocide
3. You play as two women for the main characters. (twin daughters of BJ), in other words, more STRONG WOMYN propaganda shoved down our throats, as if the new Star Wars movies, new Assassins Creed, new pirate game, new Gears of War, new Battlefield, new Call of Duty, new Tom Raider, new Last of Us werent enough STRONK WOMYN propaganda

1. like i said on a previous comment, it's their game they can do whatever they want to, also what obvious parallels ur referring to? lmao get ur political bullshit off of video games
2. no it doesnt
3. shoved down ur throats? u dont have the freedom of choice? are u a muppet? nobody is forcing u to buy the game, nor to watch the movies or w/e the fuck u were typing there lmao

Betafield V is just an exact clone of Cod WW2. Cod ww2 had black female nazis, removed swastikas, and was very shit game. In the BF gameplay they even showed a gun with the exact same reflex sight as in cod.
I don't know how no one remembers the uproar from the community before that game came out and how BF just decides to do the exact same thing. Makes my brain hurt

While I think it's degenerate and annoying to have homosexuality displayed in a positive light, Last of Us 2 looks really good still.
The gayest moments at e3 were Bethesda when the SJW audience was orgasming when the devs said some cringey shit like "WERE GONNA FUCKIN KILL SOME NAZI SCUM"
Like these people are actually insane lmao. Uncle Adolf living in their heads rent free. It's pathetic.

I think bf5 will be good regardless but because they fucked up so much on the trailer they already lost a decent chunk of potential players which obviously affects number of game copies sold.
They'll probably darken the climate and slightly adjust all those uniforms before the release which will partially fix the biggest issues of the game as seen in the trailer and gameplay trailer but people will still remember it as a SJW fiesta and thats just not appealing.
I have a feeling that it could've been a great game and one of the best Battlefields ever but they turned it into shit all by themselves...but for such retardness i must say it is well deserved.

Stop crying. They are GAMES. Who cares what ethnicity or gender a character has? Games like Horizon Zero Dawn or Tomb Raider are great BECAUSE the main char is a girl.
Why do you even give a flying fuck?
If the game is good the main char can be a transgender asexual black furry. Fuck off.

-The SJW of US (its known ellie is lesbian since the dlc of tlou)
-Betafield (its just a fucking girl, its not that important)
-SJWolfenstein (again, its that hard to accept theres a girl in a videogame?)
i mean, SJW are just tumblr idiots overreacting and playing victim roles everytime, but having a girl in a videogame has nothing to do with SJW.

I don't think Battlefield will be bad, DICE may be pandering but they know how to make good games.
EA is the problem. Stuffing a BR because COD introduced it might just pull enough resources for them to have to release a buggy mess (betafield too LOL) like they did with 4.

never said the game itself are going to be good, only that the actual reveal of the game was good, giving the hype around TES overall.
i guess reading is to hard for you.
Even, with your flawed reading capabilities, were that what i really meant, it would be an educated prediction based of the historical trends of the series all being critically good and beloved games from critics and fans alike. One of the biggest game franchises, bethesda knowing the value of it and realise the potential profits of making another critical success (otherwise they obviously wouldn't make it at all nor market it this early on in the creating process, creating hype years before release, indicating they're going all in on it) bethesda also have, historically, kept game development behind close doors right untill launch and announced the majority of them 2-4 months before release (fallout 4 closest example).
i guess analysing is to hard for you too.