Lp - vs - Payback >Bible topic debate thread

i was just correcting your statement b/c u alluded that slaves were to be freed. but that was a conditional practice. and lets be honest how many slaves u think really were freed? i'd say its safe to bet not all the time

...maybe you're a war orphan or something, but whatever, you're a broke joke. You decide to sell yourself into slavery. You work for a few years, and of course, you don't get paid enough to make a difference but it's all good. You get a meal, you get shelter.

THEN BAM!

Jubilee celebration. Great for the Jews to feel good about themselves, but now all of a sudden you're back to being broke, on the streets, with no food or shelter.

god raped mary at a young age maybe even before she turned 13. b/c the word virgin wasn't used in the hebrew translation. that is something the occult used to deify their pretend jesus.. god condems sinner to death, he hates murderers but recommends u murder adulterers gays blasphemers etc.. in the old testament. even in the new they crucified jesus and we idolize a fake cross in honor of that.. im confused am i supposed to only use words out the bible to explain my synopsis of certain FACTS about the stories in the biblel?

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U mean greek translation.
Well taje the verse in luke she says she "has yet to know a man"

Which means A prolonged form of a primary verb; to "know" (absolutely) in a great variety of applications and with many implications (as follow, with others not thus clearly expressed) -- allow, be aware (of), feel, (have) know(-ledge), perceived, be resolved, can speak, be sure, understand.

occult used to deify jesus? U mean like titus, or john, peter...ya.

No i expect if u have a point to make u present the point with verses in context that u feel support it
for example mary being a virgin the verse would be luke.

...maybe you're a war orphan or something, but whatever, you're a broke joke. You decide to sell yourself into slavery. You work for a few years, and of course, you don't get paid enough to make a difference but it's all good. You get a meal, you get shelter.

THEN BAM!

Jubilee celebration. Great for the Jews to feel good about themselves, but now all of a sudden you're back to being broke, on the streets, with no food or shelter.

This isn't a good thing... morally speaking.

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But were not talking about morality in terms of people and their adherence to biblical concepts. we were talking about slavery as we know it being condoned in the bible and its not the truth. I proved that quite clearly. bit were jumping to morality now so
relax deary.

U mean greek translation.
Well taje the verse in luke she says she "has yet to know a man"

Which means A prolonged form of a primary verb; to "know" (absolutely) in a great variety of applications and with many implications (as follow, with others not thus clearly expressed) -- allow, be aware (of), feel, (have) know(-ledge), perceived, be resolved, can speak, be sure, understand.

occult used to deify jesus? U mean like titus, or john, peter...ya.

No i expect if u have a point to make u present the point with verses in context that u feel support it
for example mary being a virgin the verse would be luke.

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Translations are not inerrant. Only the autographs can be inerrant. Thus, the Septuagint’s translation of Isaiah 7:14 with the Greek word meaning “virgin” is simply a mistaken translation of the Hebrew word meaning “young woman”. Matthew 1:23 quotes this passage from Isaiah using the Greek word for “virgin”. Does this imply that the inspired writer of the Gospel used (and therefore gave legitimacy to) a mistranslation? No. Some modern scholars and some ancient sources hold that Matthew’s Gospel was first written in Hebrew, in which case there is no reason to suppose the author did anything other than quote the Hebrew text accurately, with the Hebrew word for “young woman”.

Honestly, how do you plan on defending a book as morally reprehensible as the bible? You're trying to do something that's simply not possible.

I like how when morally repugnant ideals are cited, they were just "taken out of context". Yet the doctrines that are cornerstones of fundamentalist Christianity are cited, they must be taken literally. What gives you the right to pick and choose? It's such hypocritical drivel.

If I read passages from the bible to a 10 year old, he could tell me that these things are wrong. We don't condemn people to death for minor infractions. We don't allow our daughters to be raped. We don't discriminate against other genders. These are cornerstones of a morally sound and equal society. No one would ever want to live in the same world as the bible promotes. This book doesn't strive for the welfare of human kind; rather it promotes absolutely abhorrent examples discrimination and prejudice, murder, rape, and slavery.

Just man the fuck up and admit that it's backwards. It'd be a lot easier for you.

TheBigPayback, you were a tad bit doomed from the start with this. Jesus wants us to agree qucikly with our adversaries. Scientifically speaking, he's right. Humans respond better to a 'yes' than to a 'no.'

@Lyricalpreist you are correct when you say Yahuwah puts people into slavery. Yahuwah is reality, everything that has happened in his tory, every event, all eras and all kingdoms, every empire were given and taken away by his hand. He is the only true living Elohim. He established the world by his wisdeom, created the earth by his power and strecthed out the universe by his understanding. Nothing escapes his will or word. He spoke it, it will surley be done.

To fear your creator is one of the most important traits you can have imo. A good understanding has one to fear Yahuwah and keep his way- Proverbs

His children Ysrael forgot him, his laws and statutes and turned aside after the other nations gods and served them. They poured out offerings to the queen of heaven (christins know her as Mary), they offered up their children to Molach and chased after the roman gods jupiter and mars .He sent them into captivity 3 times before finally sending them all way into the hands of their enemies fully in 70AD at the siege of Jerusalem by the Roman empire (of which he set up and allowed to do this because it was his will).

Yahuwah made an everlasting covenant with Abram and it went to his son Issac. Issac passed the promise on to his first beggotn son Jacob. Jacob fathered the 12 patriarchs of all the children of Ysrael. They went in and accepted the covenant Yah made with them after arriving in the wilderness, after coming out of Egpyt as a great multiude. They married Yah or knew him. They broke the bond and played the harlot with other nations.

They were to be a peculiar treasure unto the creator, a priest nation. Whos wisdom and knowledge of the Most High would be their righteousness in the eyes of the other nations. They would see this, and come to them to learn and be delivered out of their pagan ways by their priesthood.

They blew it and were scattered. Of course according to Yah's will.

Only one peoples as a collective nation has ever been in captivity as slaves. As it is written. The children of Ysrael are in captivity today much like how they were in Egypt as it is written of them in the book of exodus. Yah sent them to the four corners of the globe and he will come again to deliver them according to how it is written. Yah's salvation will come again riding on the shoulders of his first begotten Yahshua. He will take the elect to the wilderness yet again to learn the ways. Other nations will surely see this.

No longer will Yahuwah be known for what he did in the first deliverance out of Egypt in the first exodus, but the world will again collectively know him for what is about to pass in these end times. Yahuwah lives. These nations, a people who were not a people unto YAH will come to be his people and worship him at the mount Zion, under the nation of Ysrael. He will accept the ones seeking him. All nations.

Keep fast the torah (instructions of Yah), follow after his word and kept his way in the name of Messiah. Not after the doctrines of man and after traditions of the nations.