Do you realize how stupid that is? Or are you just too young/simple to understand how this business works? Rousey vs. Cyborg would do HUGE #s...that's the fight the UFC tried hard to make, and Ronda would still be marketable even if she did lose to Cyborg. They wanted to pay Cyborg to fight in another organization for f--- sakes. Also...Ronda Rousey is what brought Women's MMA into the UFC. PERIOD. The division was made because that's the division she fights in today. What you're both saying is borderline retarded.

Whatever man...this is how the real world works. If you spout off stuff that makes no sense you're going to get called on it. There's no basis for your argument of Ronda ducking Cyborg or UFC protecting Ronda...

There's literally no examples you can provide to back up this theory. Alternatively we already know that the UFC tried very hard to get Cyborg into this fight and that SHE TURNED DOWN THE FIGHT. Since when does the champion have to change divisions to fight someone who isn't the champion??? Especially when the only reason Cyborg can't make 135 is becuase she's a f---ing cheater and full of testosterone. How much sense does that make?

Whatever man...this is how the real world works. If you spout off stuff that makes no sense you're going to get called on it. There's no basis for your argument of Ronda ducking Cyborg or UFC protecting Ronda...

There's literally no examples you can provide to back up this theory. Alternatively we already know that the UFC tried very hard to get Cyborg into this fight and that SHE TURNED DOWN THE FIGHT. Since when does the champion have to change divisions to fight someone who isn't the champion??? Especially when the only reason Cyborg can't make 135 is becuase she's a f---ing cheater and full of testosterone. How much sense does that make?

How much sense does it make for a promoter to publicly bash a fighter because she cannot make a weight class? Especially when the champion said herself that she would return to that weight after she wins the title?

How much sense does it make for a promoter to publicly bash a fighter because she cannot make a weight class? Especially when the champion said herself that she would return to that weight after she wins the title?

Where's the bashing again? I'm sorry I'm confused by the facts of the story where they said they offered to do this and that for her and still got turned down. Oh and that she takes steroids. They don't need Cyborg at all.

This is just the reality of pro sports. In the NBA there isn't anymore than 450 players at any time. If a guy isn't playing at the NBA level, he gets cut. Millions of people play b-ball but not everyone is cut out for the NBA level to make NBA level money. Obviously, this isn't a perfect comparison but it does apply in important ways. If you aren't winning enough fights in UFC or are making more than you are worth to the UFC (Fitch) then you gotta go.

There will always be other opportunities on other shows. You might not get paid the same but the Universe has a way of eventually making adjustments for people who are either not getting paid enough or getting paid too much.

The UFC cares about making money and so they care about the people who have the money...the fans. They'll keep the majority of us happy no matter what they do.

Thanks Ken... yet another one on Ronda huh . Who do you think is a better overall fighter, GSP or Ronda?

Oh, that's a good question.

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Overall Striking:
GSP is more well rounded and experienced as a striker.

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Transitions from Striking to Grappling:

GSP and Ronda actually have some similarities in regards to using striking to setup their takedowns.

In this gif Ronda timed Miesha's left-hook with a straight-right and immediately followed that with a left over-hook grip behind Miesha's head which she used to do a hip-toss.
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In this gif GSP faints a jab. You'll notice that Alves moves his head to avoid GSP's jab which distracted him from stuffing the takedown.
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GSP likes to shoot doubles so once he get a takedown he's usually in guard, half-guard or side control. An advantage that Ronda has with her takedowns is that she often takes advantage of what her mom calls the 'Golden Second'. That's the moment when a takedown happens. When Ronda gets a takedown she actually begins to pass guard before her opponent hits the ground. You'll notice this in the Budd fight. Ronda used her left arm behind Budd's head to work towards full-mount while Budd was still falling. Against Kaufman, Ronda used the under-hook on Kaufman's arm as Kaufman fell to go straight to full-mount. Against Tate, Ronda used a short straight right hand to setup an over-under hook which she held all the way to the ground. She didn't let go until she was in position to transition from side-control to full mount.

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Overall Grappling:
Ronda said she likes nogi because one of her advantages is that she can think faster than her opponents on the ground. This helps Ronda because her style of grappling is harder to defend in nogi. GSP is a very high level grappler as well. He has excellent top-control but he also has shown a good guard and scramble when he's needed to use these skills. GSP doesn't have the same killer instinct while grappling that Ronda has. GSP has good GnP but Ronda is better at using her GnP to setup her grappling. GSP and Ronda are both great at improving their position on the ground but Ronda is on another level in regards to finishing. I think she also has better technique.

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Ronda is still early in her MMA career and she's continuing to improve and round out her skills. GSP has had a longer career and has faced more opponents. Also styles make fights. If Ronda and GSP could fight in an alternate universe where size and gender was equalized somehow than I think Ronda would beat GSP.

Even though its not insulting. If I sound like Dana White I must be doing something right lol

Sure wish I was the president of a 2 billion dollar business where I have waterfalls in my backyard and I'm building a sport from the ground up into the mainstream global sports world. Just don't want to work as hard as he does. That's frowned upon for me

Where's the bashing again? I'm sorry I'm confused by the facts of the story where they said they offered to do this and that for her and still got turned down. Oh and that she takes steroids. They don't need Cyborg at all.

The callouts are great on twitter...but again, why does the champion have to move up to 140 when she is the champion at 135? Also...like I said Cyborg was offered to fight for Invicta for a few fights under UFC contract while Ronda handled her business at 135 and it could have set up a fight down the road once 135 was more established. Then she makes some idiotic move where she screws her relationship with the UFC to go to Invicta anyways.....and somehow that's the UFC/Ronda Rousey/Dana White's fault?

Also nothing in that article is bashing. It's 100% truth. She's been out of the game for a year and a half now and irrelevant in the UFC sense (they don't need her because she won't fight in the UFC weight class). Yes, it would've been good to have her and Ronda fight but she's the one who got caught for steroids and she isn't willing to fight at the proper division weight for the title. It makes absolutely no sense right now to have a catchweight women's fight when they are trying to build up a division at 135. Get with it man.

The callouts are great on twitter...but again, why does the champion have to move up to 140 when she is the champion at 135? Also...like I said Cyborg was offered to fight for Invicta for a few fights under UFC contract while Ronda handled her business at 135 and it could have set up a fight down the road once 135 was more established. Then she makes some idiotic move where she screws her relationship with the UFC to go to Invicta anyways.....and somehow that's the UFC/Ronda Rousey/Dana White's fault?

Also nothing in that article is bashing. It's 100% truth. She's been out of the game for a year and a half now and irrelevant in the UFC sense (they don't need her because she won't fight in the UFC weight class). Yes, it would've been good to have her and Ronda fight but she's the one who got caught for steroids and she isn't willing to fight at the proper division weight for the title. It makes absolutely no sense right now to have a catchweight women's fight when they are trying to build up a division at 135. Get with it man.

I agree that cyborg was dumb to do the invicta deal she did and I never said that was dana or anyone else's fault. And Ronda should go up to fight her because she said she would and cyborg is the champ there (I know she was stripped but let's face it the women's division is so weak that she would have been champ without roids).

Ronda is still early in her MMA career and she's continuing to improve and round out her skills. GSP has had a longer career and has faced more opponents. Also styles make fights. If Ronda and GSP could fight in an alternate universe where size and gender was equalized somehow than I think Ronda would beat GSP.

Classic Kenny... I'm not even gonna argue you with you on this one, you win.

How much sense does it make for a promoter to publicly bash a fighter because she cannot make a weight class? Especially when the champion said herself that she would return to that weight after she wins the title?

Cyborg has yet to fight since her suspension in January 2012. The Strikeforce 145 division was virtually dormant after Cyborgs suspension. Randamire defeated Yamanaka at 145 but moved to 135 after the fight. Cyborg was a possible opponent for Rousey's UFC debut but the UFC has yet to create a 145 division.

Classic Kenny... I'm not even gonna argue you with you on this one, you win.

I actually would like to hear your opinions. I mean what if Ronda could telepathically transplant her mind to control the body of a male welterweight fighter with size and athletic ability reciprocal to Ronda as a bantamweight female than I think she could beat GSP. I mean, you asked me to compare them. It's hard to do because they're at different weight classes and one is male and the other is female. I think Ronda and GSP are both good for the sport. GSP isn't as good at finishing submissions as Ronda but then again who is?

I mentioned this in the context of the UFC cutting fighters with less fan appealing grappling styles while keeping fighters who have worse records yet still marketable.

i think this 100 more to go is the UFC trying to frighten the fighters to stop getting injured ....trt....turning down fights because lately fighters have had to much say in who they fight and what they do i dont get to pick what days i work and who i work with CUT THEM ALL DANA CUT THEM ALL and have joe lauzon vs jim miller every week !

It sucks, but this was really unavoidable. Too many fighters, and even with 33 cards a year, still not possible.

But, you cannot cut just the lower tier guys. And listening to the reasoning behind a guy like Fitch being released, it makes sense. 1-2-1 in his last 4, only win was over Erik Silva, PLUS the money that Fitch made, tough to justify that.

It'll be interesting to see what other fighters soon find themselves on the chopping block.

Wasn't an issue even last year when Zuffa had SF and UFC fighters. It's too many fighters, not enough cards. 470 fighters, each contracted to fight 3x / year. 33 fight cards, 8 fights per card. Math just doesn't work out.