- my good friend, eats around 3800 calories. no cardio, sedentary lifestyle, around 90kg BW ATM. 8% bf year round, test+deca+dianabol. no bloat, he has trouble bulking because when he upped calories his body adapted and after an initial increase in BW he started loosing bodyfat again.

This is him, SHREDDED.

- my friend's trainee. 300-350g of carbs every day until the day of the contest. no t3, 20 mins of light cardio per day.

more important, its to follow it, just listening and then not doing as said wont go places

prime muscle, theres no ecto endo meso morfs, other than structure.

their metablosim rates are all within few %.

there is not ppl who can get away with eating everything and not get ft, and there is not ppl who get fat just by looking at food.

theres only ppl who overeat, ppl with small stomachs, ppl with more efficient metabolism bc of being more active.

a baby has very small stomach, it cant eat so much.ectomorfs have small frame with bit smaller stomach, etc.

force feed ectomorf with 10k cals a day for a while and see how he gets away with eating anything.

starve an alleged endomoirf and see how he cant lose weight.

in the concentration camps,i bet the jewish were all mixes of morfs, and the survivors all came shredded.

conclusion, sciene says theres different bodytypes but they only mean bone structure, not metaboism.

ofc a mesomorf structure will look more muscular than a wide hipped turd endomorfic one.by default.

Everyone should save this post & read it regularly.

Spot on.

& whenever sum1 at my gym says iv tried every diet I can and can't lose weight I always say you must be like those fattys that came out the concentration camps...they say "yeh.....no wait..hold on". Fat people are liars.

more important, its to follow it, just listening and then not doing as said wont go places

prime muscle, theres no ecto endo meso morfs, other than structure.

their metablosim rates are all within few %.

there is not ppl who can get away with eating everything and not get ft, and there is not ppl who get fat just by looking at food.

theres only ppl who overeat, ppl with small stomachs, ppl with more efficient metabolism bc of being more active.

a baby has very small stomach, it cant eat so much.ectomorfs have small frame with bit smaller stomach, etc.

force feed ectomorf with 10k cals a day for a while and see how he gets away with eating anything.

starve an alleged endomoirf and see how he cant lose weight.

in the concentration camps,i bet the jewish were all mixes of morfs, and the survivors all came shredded.

conclusion, sciene says theres different bodytypes but they only mean bone structure, not metaboism.

ofc a mesomorf structure will look more muscular than a wide hipped turd endomorfic one.by default.

Perhaps you know more about the science of genetic body types then I do. What I know from personal experience is that both my parents were extremely thin. My dad was 6'6" and when he enlisted in the military as a young man he only weighed a little over 165 lbs. A few years later, when he met my mom he was up to 175 lbs. He had big bones. My mom was a rail. She was 5'8" tall. The most she ever weighed was 129 when she was 29 years old. Most of her life she weighed around 120 lbs. She would have been considered medium to large boned. When I was 16 and stood nearly 6', I weighed 126 lbs. My wrists measure 9". I believe I am big boned. Our family doctor prescribed D-bol and testosterone shots to help me put on some size back then. I managed to get up to 144 lbs. over the course of a year. Maybe I am not an ectomorph genetically, but it sure felt like it and I sure looked something like the examples normally shown of this body type.

You are right in that we inherit more than just bone structure. We inherit to some degree our parents' metabolisms. Many kids learn eating habits from their parents. Mine ate healthy and in small quantities compared to what you see folks eating today. Also, junk food was not common in my childhood home. Instead, there was always a bowl of fresh fruit on the kitchen table. Since I was an only child my mom did not fix meals "family style" rather we each got a portion on our plate with no seconds available. Deserts were reserved for special occasions only. When I was in elementary school, my mom packed my lunch. It is safe to say, I got a good start from my parents as far as eating habits goes.

I mentioned that I weigh over 200 lbs. these days. This did not come naturally. I started working out with weights in my teens. As I mentioned, I did some cycles of then legal anabolic steroids as prescribed by my parent's physician. Over the years, whenever I'd slack off on the weight training, I would lose weight. My weight as an adult has been all over the map. I have weighed as little as 155 lbs. and as much as 225 lbs. The latter being when I was taking D-bol in my late 20's and working out almost daily. The former when I was not working out and not on any AS or supplements. Currently, because of low testosterone, I am injecting 200 mg of test cyp every other week. This is also with a doctor's prescription.

I am not cut or ripped. I also am not fat. I feel good about how I look. I am healthier and more fit then most guys I see walking around who are senior citizens like me. If I were to live the rest of my life in this condition, that would be great with me. It matters not whether I am an ecto, endo or meso bodytype.

like how the hell can you explain that? im on 1/3rd of what i took to build this, and im growing in a severe deficit. like its mind boggling to say the least. like we talked about has to be in such a deficit that the body becomes so much better at utilising nutrients, including proteins for anabolism. how else can you explain it? its not my imagination. its happening. bizzare but i'll take it. also the training. its hitting me now but the ability to train the whole body 2-3 times a week without burnout like this? how the f**k is that even possible. lol the body is an amazingly complex, wonderful machine.

Also gal/no one, waht do you think about just doing whey protein + water or steamed brocolli/peas pre workout.

why pre workout? its not about eating at certain times, its more about not eating at certain times. if you can train fasted do so. then stay as fasted as long as you can after. we are finding this is very very important to increase the bodies ability to burn fat. your not eating for fuel, your body is supplying that.

so why eat before you train? so many indoctrinated useless habits we have developed because 'were supposed to do that'. clearly its not what we are supposed to do, or else the body wouldnt respond as remarkably as it has.

also, i wouldnt use the powder with just water. it wont satiate you. it might just leave you hungrier. if you use powder, put it in coffee. that way it'll at least blunt your appetite. but powder in water is not a good idea. stick to whole food instead. and btw powder makes up almost 100% of my protein source, with odd days with meat. always in coffee, never water. cheers.

why pre workout? its not about eating at certain times, its more about not eating at certain times. if you can train fasted do so. then stay as fasted as long as you can after. we are finding this is very very important to increase the bodies ability to burn fat. your not eating for fuel, your body is supplying that.

so why eat before you train? so many indoctrinated useless habits we have developed because 'were supposed to do that'. clearly its not what we are supposed to do, or else the body wouldnt respond as remarkably as it has.

also, i wouldnt use the powder with just water. it wont satiate you. it might just leave you hungrier. if you use powder, put it in coffee. that way it'll at least blunt your appetite. but powder in water is not a good idea. stick to whole food instead. and btw powder makes up almost 100% of my protein source, with odd days with meat. always in coffee, never water. cheers.

My body is not yet used to training without having a pwo meal of some sorts. I've went down from guzzing milk ladden protein shakes and pb&j sandwiches to this.