"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing, and you're still fit and ready, and you know you own his ass."-Former Bama LB Cory Reamer on Coach Cochran's training program

A bunch of guys who make crazy $ for playing hoops are hardly sympathetic figures (and that's not even taking into account the giant element of race). Ironically, it's the owners who are the fucking jackasses here.

“You’ve been waiting for it for a long time, but you got it. You wanted it, you got it. We’re bringing it home.’’

No the players are more the problem in my eyes. Your team is losing cash, can't sell out the games cause you suck, take a small pay cut. You are still a millionaire several times over stop your bitching. IMO

If there's one sport among the Big Four I would associate with the one percent, it would be the NBA. Doesn't it seem as if the middle class doesn't care about the NBA? Either the very wealthy attend the games or the very poor follow the league (and this DOES take into account the giant element of race.) The other three feel more middle-class to me.

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lugnutz wrote:No the players are more the problem in my eyes. Your team is losing cash, can't sell out the games cause you suck, take a small pay cut. You are still a millionaire several times over stop your bitching. IMO

- 30% (which was the owners originally wanted) isn't a small pay cut. - If players are overpaid, who ok's those contracts? - I honestly don't believe most teams are losing money. When pro team owners say they're losing money, I personally believe they mean they're not making as much money as they expected. But they're billionaire owners or ownership groups. so...yeah.

thing is all the nba owners don't feel this way... its sarver, gilbert, even MJ who are playing hardball..way nba has been marketed its about the stars .. and to really get people to come out on say a wed night to see a game you need to have one of the true superstars or mutiple stars..otherwise people will just watch on tv.. besides more then other sports these guys care where they living. cities like LA, Miami will always be more attractive then spending up to 9 months a year in Milwaukee or Indiana.. but I can guarantee you the Buss, Dolans, Arisons don't want to me missing games..

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"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing, and you're still fit and ready, and you know you own his ass."-Former Bama LB Cory Reamer on Coach Cochran's training program

why is Wyc not pushing for deal? I keep hearing he is one of the cheap ass owners ..

Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert suggested at one point that the players could “trust” the owners to deliver a fair system provided the owners first got a commitment on the 50-50 split, Hunter said. “It was Dan Gilbert who said to me that I should trust his gut,” Hunter recalled. “And I said, ‘No, I can’t trust your gut. I’m going to trust my own gut. I’m not going to trust that you’re going to be open and amenable to changes to the system we find appropriate,’” Hunter said, citing almost line-by-line dialogue.

Hunter didn’t stop at calling out Gilbert and Allen. In the union’s most direct and specific attempt to portray the owners as divided, Hunter mentioned by name four owners — Jerry Buss of the Lakers, James Dolan of the Knicks, Mark Cuban of the Mavericks and Micky Arison of the Heat — who are, according to Hunter, ready to make a deal. “They want a deal,” Hunter said of those four owners. “A group of owners from small markets are dug in, and they are carrying the day. The guys who are anxious to cut a deal don’t have the votes.”

Billy Guerin, who was heavily involved player rep during the lost NHL year, tells the players to just take the deal and that the only thing worth dying on the battlefield for was guaranteed contracts. They ought to listen.

“You’ve been waiting for it for a long time, but you got it. You wanted it, you got it. We’re bringing it home.’’