When you're doing your daily spouting off suggesting that "the seals killed Bin Laden, not Obama", you fail to recognize that if the mission had failed, it would have been considered a HUGE blunder by OBAMA, not the seals. It was a huge risk.

No interpretation needed, but I'm sure you will spin it in a way to claim he doesn't say what he says.

Why would I do that? I've never claimed that torture doesn't ever yield credible intelligence, only that it yields just as much bad intelligence, it isn't efficient, and it's morally wrong. In a ticking timebomb scenario I'm find with it. I'm not fine with it as official US policy.

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Because is proves Bush gets some of the credit for Bin Laden's death, something you have refused to acknowledge.

Can't wait for your spin.

How do you credit Bush with getting bin Laden when Bush himself said he didn't know or care where bin Laden was? Maybe if Bush cared it wouldn't have taken ten frigging years and a new president to get him.

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So, all the risk in this mission was on Obama. The SEALS didn't risk anything.

Physical risk, yes.

But if the mission had failed, not a single person in teh world would have said, "remember when the SEALS blotched that assignment". No one.It would have been the Republican calling cry for the next ten years. "Obama makes bad call. Many lives lost"

But if the mission had failed, not a single person in teh world would have said, "remember when the SEALS blotched that assignment". No one.It would have been the Republican calling cry for the next ten years. "Obama makes bad call. Many lives lost"

Keep up the spin.

It's fun to watch you squirm after making the claim Obama killed Bin Laden, not the SEALS, and that Obama took the risk, not the SEALS.

How do you credit Bush with getting bin Laden when Bush himself said he didn't know or care where bin Laden was? Maybe if Bush cared it wouldn't have taken ten frigging years and a new president to get him.

Obama is the Barry Switzer of presidents -- took over a stacked team and won the Super Bowl before his incompetency could interfere.

"But it's the Presidential election where the average citizens come out. The ones who hardly even know there are midterms, let alone research and/or vote for them. And you guys haven't fared so well recently." -- NewbieJr, explaining that Democrats are uninformed and uninterested.

Making that decision was about as hard as the decision to flush the toilet after taking a dump...

This is completely wrong. COMPLETELY.

First off, I hate to play this game, but Bush had a similar opportunity to make the decision and did not. Remember the caves of Tora Bora, when bin Laden got away? They likely could have gotten him but failed to commit the necessary military resources to do so. Failing to get bin Laden at that time was how he escaped into Pakistan in the first place.

Second, you are totally discounting the risks Obama took in order this raid. Namely there was a huge risk of international scandal and embarrassment if the mission did not go well. Obama sent Navy SEALs into Pakistan without Pakistan's permission. He violated their territorial sovereignty. Imagine if the mission did not go well and the SEALs had been captured in Pakistan. It would have been the most embarrassing display of U.S. ineptitude since the Iran Hostage Crisis.

Plus people in the United States would have been pissed if something bad happened to the SEAL team. Basically if the mission had gone poorly, it could've ended up worse than the hostage crisis and the incident in Somalia combined.

Would another president have ordered the raid? Perhaps so. But it was NOT a slam dunk decision by any means.

It's sad that you clowns ignore the risks the SEALS took, but continue to tout how brave Obama was to risk embarrassment, or heaven forbid, a tough time getting reelected.

I think everyone has recognized that the SEALs are extremely brave and took a great deal of risk. They deserve tons of credit and have received it (sadly they can't receive personal credit since we can't know their identities). In fact there are numerous, NUMEROUS occasions of President Obama praising the SEAL team.

Nah, your story of sukking Obama's cack to try to spin this is getting old. Admit the Dude was, and is, more concerned with his reelection than the lives of the SEALS he sent in. Shiit! Even Obama is admitting it in this ad. They state it plainly for everyone to see, yet you continue to try to spin it.

Too fukking funny.

Just checking in...has RP admitted yet this a complete lie and Obama never said any such thing? Just wondering?

I think everyone has recognized that the SEALs are extremely brave and took a great deal of risk. They deserve tons of credit and have received it (sadly they can't receive personal credit since we can't know their identities). In fact there are numerous, NUMEROUS occasions of President Obama praising the SEAL team.

So, as usual, you could not be any more wrong.

You and Newbie both crawfish well. Once you get called out on touting how brave Obama was, and ignoring the SEALS, you come back with "Uh, well of course they were brave".

You and Newbie both crawfish well. Once you get called out on touting how brave Obama was, and ignoring the SEALS, you come back with "Uh, well of course they were brave".

Well no shiit you focking retard. The SEALS had a dangerous mission. There could have been gunmen or bombs, etc waiting for them. That goes without saying.

But you're the moron who has spent the last year complaining about how Obama is 'spiking the football' for political gain. The "RISK" Obama took was political loss. You can't have it both ways, Nancy. A blotched m,ission would have been political suicide for Obama. Would he have gotten shot? No. Would he have been the laughing stock of the world? Yup. Would the Republicans have made the Seals' death and Bin LAden get away a MAJOR focal point of this election? Absofuckinglutely. And you would have led the charge.

Even Clinton was after Bin Laden. Just a few months before Bush took office, he was trying to take him out with cruise missiles. Bush's response? "When I take action, I'm not gonna fire a $2 million missile at some empty tent and hit a camel in the butt. It's going to be decisive."

So, we've lost more lives in Afghanistan and Iraq than we did on 9/11 .... did not catch OBL ... and crushed the US economy with an extraordinary debt. Decisive? I guess you could call it that.

BTW, there are 3 factors that have caused the debt. Bush's tax cuts, Rx drug plan and the wars is about 3 TRILLION dollars. The Obama stimulus, 800 billion.

Even Clinton was after Bin Laden. Just a few months before Bush took office, he was trying to take him out with cruise missiles. Bush's response? "When I take action, I'm not gonna fire a $2 million missile at some empty tent and hit a camel in the butt. It's going to be decisive."

So, we've lost more lives in Afghanistan and Iraq than we did on 9/11 .... did not catch OBL ... and crushed the US economy with an extraordinary debt. Decisive? I guess you could call it that.

BTW, there are 3 factors that have caused the debt. Bush's tax cuts, Rx drug plan and the wars is about 3 TRILLION dollars. The Obama stimulus, 800 billion.

No response to that RP?

So, when Bush takes credit for what the soldiers are going to have to do, and pretty much fails, costing thousands of lives and trillions of dollars, that's not something you care to talk about. When Obama takes credit for a precise strike, that he ordered, at great risk to his political career, that was a success ... it's focked up.