The outlook for Gardevoir's competitive viability is actually pretty bad.

Serebii's new estimate has it's special attack come down from 175 to 165.

Even before that 100 Speed is not enough for a Pokemon that will still go down in 1 neutral physical attack.

And it doesn't learn anything that makes Pixilate actually worth having as an ability. The only move in the game that would make Pixilate not terrible, is Boomburst, which there is no evidence Gardevoir can learn.

They didn't give Gardevoir Quiver Dance which it really needed, or any other moves that are useful.

Yes I'm pretty upset.

http://tinyurl.com/kzx4rdz

It's inevitable that it will gain ground with time, though.---Thinking is overrated. Like Pants.

#52POPSHU_FRUITCHU(Topic Creator)Posted 10/17/2013 10:39:37 AM

Deathsword00 posted...

Gengar and Mawile are really the only two worth much of anything. Maybe Lucario too.

The outlook for Gardevoir's competitive viability is actually pretty bad.

Serebii's new estimate has it's special attack come down from 175 to 165.

Even before that 100 Speed is not enough for a Pokemon that will still go down in 1 neutral physical attack.

And it doesn't learn anything that makes Pixilate actually worth having as an ability. The only move in the game that would make Pixilate not terrible, is Boomburst, which there is no evidence Gardevoir can learn.

They didn't give Gardevoir Quiver Dance which it really needed, or any other moves that are useful.

Yes I'm pretty upset.

http://tinyurl.com/kzx4rdz

It's inevitable that it will gain ground with time, though.

I would like for Gardevoir to be competitively dangerous.

I just don't see how it's going to happen with its stats and its available moves.---1. The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. 2. They're all complacent sheeple.<==]-<(-_o)>-[==>

#54CrystalKing5426Posted 10/17/2013 11:05:48 AM

POPSHU_FRUITCHU posted...

Deathsword00 posted...

Gengar and Mawile are really the only two worth much of anything. Maybe Lucario too.

Mega Aggron? Mega kangashkahn?

Aggron is an excellent Physical Tank, Kangaskhan still isn't worth anything. Subpar stats, movepool, and typing. Parental Bond doesn't do much to save it.---Other M is the One More Day of MetroidDark Samus for SSB4

The outlook for Gardevoir's competitive viability is actually pretty bad.

Serebii's new estimate has it's special attack come down from 175 to 165.

Even before that 100 Speed is not enough for a Pokemon that will still go down in 1 neutral physical attack.

And it doesn't learn anything that makes Pixilate actually worth having as an ability. The only move in the game that would make Pixilate not terrible, is Boomburst, which there is no evidence Gardevoir can learn.

They didn't give Gardevoir Quiver Dance which it really needed, or any other moves that are useful.

Yes I'm pretty upset.

http://tinyurl.com/kzx4rdz

It's inevitable that it will gain ground with time, though.

I would like for Gardevoir to be competitively dangerous.

I just don't see how it's going to happen with its stats and its available moves.

I don't get why they even gave it that ability. For what, Hyper Voice? Moonblast or whatever is stronger.

And why it can't learn Quiver Dance confuses the hell out of me.---"Combine Cloak and Dagger with Boots of Swiftness so CC doesn't stop you from moving faster toward defeat." - Frost_shock_FTW