Thanks for this Euro, I saw the news today and did think where we'd (as in me and DH) be if it wasn't for him. I guess where we'd be is where we are - childless - but we'd be childless without hope. As you say, IVF is the last thing I'd ever want but it's a means to end and we've no hope of our own family any other way. So a big thanks to Sir Robert from me.