In this episode, Katie talks openly about her husband, who she has been with since the age of 15, and about the specific tactics they use to keep their marriage strong. She talks about being burnt-out on self-help (even though she works in that industry), and we discuss the dangers of marketing campaigns that make people feel like they are broken and need to be fixed. We talk about change - specifically the benefit of making small changes - and Katie also shares her experience of our culture's obsession with being busy and the discomfort of taking any time off, especially as a woman. I loved this chat, and I hope you do too!

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