I'm with you. I can understand the thought process on Perkins but can't really understand giving away the only young C on our roster. I thought he showed enough potential to be at worst a serviceable backup.

Troy can absolutely rebound the basketball, its all about where he plays and his placement on the court. Obviously if shooting 3's, he wont be effective, but if he is there he will board, and we can always use him to stretch the court, but I dont think he has moved his family out to the 3 point Arc as Sheed had done the last 5 OR 6 years in the league, he is gonna play where u tell him to.

seems like we're mostly in agreement re: erden. i read where ainge was pissed that he flew home to turkey over the all-star break, but that's a dumb reason to trade someone. seemed like he could run the floor OK, better than perk and shaq anyway.

"only they couldn't play him at crunch time because, between Rajon Rondo's fear of getting fouled and Perkins' lack of offense, that meant the Celtics were playing three-on-five offensively down the stretch. You can't win that way. That's why Glen Davis grabbed Perkins' crunch-time minutes against good teams."

I didnt like or understand why they traded Semih, but when u think of the fact they hardly used him, and for this year atleast u can say we swapped him for Kristic, which is not bad when u think that way.

The biggest thing is making sure you fill the other 3 spots , because if you dont, you essentially traded Semih for no reason.

If they fill out the roster with Murphy, Powe, maybe the Chris Johnson kid, then I guess it makes sense. Im hoping we land Murphy. He is not an all-star per say, but always seems to play really well against us, and is a pest on the boards.

I will just pray for the health of the O'neals. One thing of note about JON. We dont really need him back to form, now that we have more scoring. I think he struggled with the pressure of scoring early on and fitting in, but when he comes back, I would tell him just rebound and block shots, and we are fine. Shaq, JON, KG(plays center in a pinch) and Murphy rebounding and shooting will do alot for this team. We were still competing last night with 8 guys and a sour locker room.

Looks like Murphy is staying in GS there not going to buying him out!! What's next Danny boy, Powe? I hope everyone knows this isn't the same Powe we had before, he is damaged goods with two bad knees. NEXT!

Now that my grief at losing perk has subsided (was on the ledge for a while) I'm starting to get hopeful again. We have Kristic a decent 7 footer who spread the floor and started for the the thunder. We might get Murphy, who when healthy has some decent game.

If Shaq and JO get healthy and we get Murphy in a buyout then we have 4 quality big men plus baby. Of course Those are big ifs. JO is the best defesive player of that bunch by far when healthy, but who knows how much of his corpse will be able to play. Still hope springs eternal.

Actually I will be glad when this season is over and the C's can get rid of the two dead horses on the team.They had chemistry going got to learn the new playersin the down side of the season hope things work outfor the best.

Here we go overvaluing role players again. LOL! If you want to win now you have to give up something. Erden is a good prospect but don't focus on the 2nd round pick, focus on the roster spot it created.

Ainge probably didn't want to give up Erden but if it meant keeping him and losing that spot, obviosuly he wanted that spot.

If we heard later that we kept erden and Murphy or another player signed elsewhere what would some be saying then?

Here we go overvaluing role players again. LOL! If you want to win now you have to give up something. Erden is a good prospect but don't focus on the 2nd round pick, focus on the roster spot it created. Ainge probably didn't want to give up Erden but if it meant keeping him and losing that spot, obviosuly he wanted that spot. If we heard later that we kept erden and Murphy or another player signed elsewhere what would some be saying then?Posted by BiasLewis

Bias.. You have three spots if you kept Semi you could still bring in Murphy and Powe. You guy's just don't get it, Semi isn't about this year he is about the future. Do you really thing the Celtics under Doc Rivers are going to play 14 players during the playoffs? No way! That's why you keep Semi.

In Response to Re: Troy Murphy coming to Boston. Possibly Leon Powe : Bias.. You have three spots if you kept Semi you could still bring in Murphy and Powe. You guy's just don't get it, Semi isn't about this year he is about the future. Do you really thing the Celtics under Doc Rivers are going to play 14 players during the playoffs? No way! That's why you keep Semi.Posted by paulbrr7

If Semih is on the team Murphy would have 2nd thoughts on joining the Celtics. Murphy wants to play. That's not going to happen if the Celts have 2 O'Neals, 1 Krstic, 1 Baby, and 1 Turkey.