Comments

Comment by Yukazi

Personally I find this version to be more of a healer version and Warlocks should go for the Intellect version (if one of these at all) but someone had to do some quick math eventually.

Comment by davenrothz

Is the proc really 35%? if so, the proc would be up constantly. Somehow I don't believe this is correct.

Comment by Shukaro

This is the best restoration druid trinket available now I believe, with the majestic dragon figurine coming in second.

Comment by vexis58

The +intellect version of this trinket gives more regen for resto druids than the +spirit version.

Comment by fallnangel

For many raiding resto druids I'd imagine that reaching 500int and 1000spirit isn't all that difficult. with just GotW I'm sitting at 958 int and 990 spirit. The +90 int is a better choice.

Comment by Apollonaris

Well actually as I see it the spirit will always be better than the intellect one for resto druids.Using the following formula: 5 * 0.005575 * Spirit * Square_root ( Intellect ) And now using fallnangel stats, just as an example:

with just GotW I'm sitting at 958 int and 990 spirit. The +90 int is a better choice.

Comment by zj28

You get more mp5 from int than that. Remember that as int increases your mana pool increases, the more mana regen from paladins/spriests. Also (as a druid maybe you can) you can't forget that int also increases crit.

As a discipline priest the int version is far superior. I am also fairly confident that int would be superior for a holy priest too! Int is a very powerful stat now.

Effective mana gained from replenishment from +90 int.

90 int * 15 mana * .025/sec * 5 seconds = 168.75 mana/5 while casting

This in effect makes int a better mana regen stat for druids than spirit. By a lot. As long as you have the replenishment buff.

Comment by cosmix

Using the formula linked by Apollonaris, you always want more Spirit for regen. I can only think of 2 occasions where you'd want the Intellect one. First, you somehow managed to end up with a 1/2.5 intel to spirit ratio, or (more likely) your mana pool just plain sucks, in which case the intellect trinket will give you 1350 mana.

I guess ~.5% to crit may be better for soloing quests too...

These examples are without the procs, just the standard 90 stat, but the proc will just make the gaps wider.

Comment by drooood

Is the proc affected by buffs, or is it from base stats? For example, if pre-buffs you have more intellect, but then after you are buffed you have more spirit, which stat will proc?

Comment by Shazarak

It seems to me that this would be a good option for frostfire mages in 3.1 because of the 35% (55% glyphed) of spirit crit rating bonus from Molten Armor. That means that if glyphed, this would grant 214.5 crit rating when proc'd. Makes it respectable for frostfire mages. Probably not the best, but if you happen to have a noble's deck sitting around...

Comment by coffeemaker

how would this fair for a holy priest?

Comment by Opticflare

this trinket used to proc off Fel armor ticks.

this trinket will no longer proc off Fel amor healing ticks as of new patch (which in a way is better... u dont waste ur 45 sec internal CD on ticks but straight onto DPS)

Comment by hellomynameis

When you heal or deal damage you have a chance to gain Greatness, increasing your Strength, Agility, Intellect, or Spirit by 300 for 15 sec. Your highest stat is always chosen.(35%proc, 45sec internal CD)

Comment by Elfie83

has anyone seen how this works for mages in combination with the 2 piece tier 9 bonus? 70% of spirit becomes crit with Molten armor, I can imagine this proc would send a mages crit through the roof for a good amount of time and their dps along with it.

Comment by the8thark

Since there is no priest information here I'll add in what I think about this trinket on a priest.

In the old TBC days I stacked spirit on my priest and it really helped my heals in raids. Sure there was the very occasional time a little more mana would have helped but 95 times out of 100 I was casting outside the five second rule so the more mana regen helped a lot.

Fast forward to WOTLK and the spirit based mana regen nerf. And now with 3/3 points in Meditation this trinket really comes into it's own. And having 3/3 points in Enlightenment and Spirit of Redemption can't hurt either.

What this all means is these talents help you keep your Spirit as your highest stat. And when the trinket procs you can get some serious mana back. Which you can use to burst out a few heals quickly if you need to or allow you to keep healing a little longer before having to use your Shadowfiend cooldown or a mana pot for more mana.

Is this better than a + to spell power trinket for a healing priest? That is debatable. If you found a +100 spell power trinket you'd have a hard choice. As you'd get bigger heals with that trinket. But for me if you have a good + spell power trinket and this one you'll be laughing. And I'm just talking about the passive +90 spirit here. The proc is just a super bonus.

Is this better than the Greatness + intel card trinket for a healing priest? I think so yes. As the rest of your gear should have a goodly amount of intel on it to make sure you have enough mana. As there is a lot of good + intel gear. And good + spirit gear is hard to find.

So should a healing priest invest in getting this trinket? Whether you are holy or disc or a a little but of both (As my priest is) I think should be on your shopping list. And even if you're one of those healing priests who does not like to stack the most spirit they can find it allows you to have some spirit and frees up your other gear pieces to have non spirit stats. Like intel, spell power and stamina.

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Comment by truedzx

really dumb question probably, but once cata hits wouldnt the spirit and int versions of this become much more useful?