I think my reaction "How could this happen" is also important. If we see any kind of chaos in our economy or standard of living people here are going to wonder how this could have happened to "the greatest nation on Earth"!!!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 785071

Well America is about to find that it isn't the greatest nation on Earth. So now think about the reasons why Americans have been indoctrinated to believe that it is. Then track it back to the root causes of what created it in the first place. The oppressed became the oppresssers and now it is time to break the cycle and wake up. Humility will be good for America and then maybe they will stop chasing dreams like a carrot and seek within for happiness. Then essentials come to be and real compassion and love.

Do the English say that England is the greatest nation on earth? Of course not. We accept and understand the weaknesses and the strengths of this tiny nation. We also understand the opportunities and the threats being one of the most heavily populated lands in Europe.

Its a good time for the USA to do a SWOT analysis on itself. We offered the opportunity for individuals to do this on live chat. However, nobody was interested in looking at themselves to help their own nation make a breakthrough.

When I was growing up in Europe the nations most disliked were the Germans, French and Americans. That was way before 9/11 and the wars in the middle east. Germans and Americans were known for wishing to be bigger and better than everyone else and they made it known when you met them. The sensitive, reserved Brits of repose found the Germans and Americans brash and overpowering when they came across them in Europe.

I think my reaction "How could this happen" is also important. If we see any kind of chaos in our economy or standard of living people here are going to wonder how this could have happened to "the greatest nation on Earth"!!!

Well America is about to find that it isn't the greatest nation on Earth. So now think about the reasons why Americans have been indoctrinated to believe that it is. Then track it back to the root causes of what created it in the first place. The oppressed became the oppresssers and now it is time to break the cycle and wake up. Humility will be good for America and then maybe they will stop chasing dreams like a carrot and seek within for happiness. Then essentials come to be and real compassion and love.

Do the English say that England is the greatest nation on earth? Of course not. We accept and understand the weaknesses and the strengths of this tiny nation. We also understand the opportunities and the threats.

Its a good time for the USA to do a SWOT analysis on itself. We offered the opportunity for individuals to do this on live chat. However, nobody was interested in looking at themselves to help their own nation make a breakthrough.

When I was growing up in Europe the nations most disliked were the Germans, French and Americans. That was way before 9/11 and the wars in the middle east. Germans and Americans were known for wishing to be bigger and better than everyone else and they made it known when you met them. The sensitive, reserved Brits of repose found the Germans and Americans brash and overpowering.

Lotus

Quoting: Lotus Feet

Amen, brother. Americans are about to be taken down more than a few notches!

This morning I had a vision. I saw a big, beautiful US Flag. When I say “beautiful” I mean it appeared as the flag should in terms of all of its colors, design, and proportions. The colors were very vivid. The white was clean and bright while the red was also very bright, a striking fire-engine red. The flag was extremely impressive and large. Estimating…. I’d say about 10 feet wide and 20 feet long. What I found odd was that it was also very heavy…. Like a bed spread. The material was thick, not like a quilt but rather a heavy blanket. All in all, however, the flag struck me as impressive, clean, bright, large, and beautiful.The flag was flying on this rather short flagpole. If the flag was 10 feet wide then the flagpole was only about 18 feet long. The flagpole was planted in the ground and tilting. The color of the flagpole was an unsightly army green. Then, the flagpole began to bend and suddenly snapped with this beautiful but heavy flag falling to the ground. The flagpole was like a hollow bamboo pole that simply snapped under the weight of the flag. As the pole snapped and the flag tumbled to the ground I felt concerned like, “How could this happen?”

My vision will come to pass although I know I do not comprehend its full meaning…

I think my reaction "How could this happen" is also important. If we see any kind of chaos in our economy or standard of living people here are going to wonder how this could have happened to "the greatest nation on Earth"!!!

Well America is about to find that it isn't the greatest nation on Earth. So now think about the reasons why Americans have been indoctrinated to believe that it is. Then track it back to the root causes of what created it in the first place. The oppressed became the oppresssers and now it is time to break the cycle and wake up. Humility will be good for America and then maybe they will stop chasing dreams like a carrot and seek within for happiness. Then essentials come to be and real compassion and love.

Do the English say that England is the greatest nation on earth? Of course not. We accept and understand the weaknesses and the strengths of this tiny nation. We also understand the opportunities and the threats being one of the most heavily populated lands in Europe.

Its a good time for the USA to do a SWOT analysis on itself. We offered the opportunity for individuals to do this on live chat. However, nobody was interested in looking at themselves to help their own nation make a breakthrough.

When I was growing up in Europe the nations most disliked were the Germans, French and Americans. That was way before 9/11 and the wars in the middle east. Germans and Americans were known for wishing to be bigger and better than everyone else and they made it known when you met them. The sensitive, reserved Brits of repose found the Germans and Americans brash and overpowering when they came across them in Europe.

The VisionVarious accounts of George Washington's vision and prophecy all agree in content. There have been only minor variations in some details as the story was repeated over the years by those to whom it was related by General Washington.

The place was Valley Forge, in the cold and bitter winter of 1777. Washington's army had suffered several reverses and the situation was desperate. Food was scarce. The Continental Congress was not sending supplies or money. Some of the troops did not even have shoes to wear in the snow. Many soldiers were sick and dying from disease and exposure. Morale was at an all-time low and there was great agitation in the Colonies against continued effort to secure our freedom from England. Nevertheless, General Washington was determined to see the struggle through.

These are the words of a firsthand observer, Anthony Sherman, who was there and describes the situation:

"You doubtless heard the story of Washington's going to the thicket to pray. Well, it is not only true, but he used often to pray in secret for aid and comfort from God, the interposition of whose Divine Providence brought us safely through the darkest days of tribulation.

"One day, I remember it well, when the chilly winds whistled through the leafless trees, though the sky was cloudless and the sun shown brightly, he remained in his quarters nearly all the afternoon alone. When he came out, I noticed that his face was a shade paler than usual. There seemed to be something on his mind of more than ordinary importance. Returning just after dusk, he dispatched an orderly to the quarters who was presently in attendance. After a preliminary conversation of about an hour, Washington, gazing upon his companion with that strange look of dignity which he alone commanded, related the event that occurred that day."

Washington's Own Words

"This afternoon, as I was sitting at this table engaged in preparing a dispatch, something seemed to disturb me. Looking up, I beheld standing opposite me a singularly beautiful female. So astonished was I, for I had given strict orders not to be disturbed, that it was some moments before I found language to inquire the cause of her presence. A second, a third and even a fourth time did I repeat my question, but received no answer from my mysterious visitor except a slight raising of her eyes.

"By this time I felt strange sensations spreading through me. I would have risen but the riveted gaze of the being before me rendered volition impossible. I assayed once more to address her, but my tongue had become useless, as though it had become paralyzed.

"A new influence, mysterious, potent, irresistible, took possession of me. All I could do was to gaze steadily, vacantly at my unknown visitor. Gradually the surrounding atmosphere seemed as if it had become filled with sensations, and luminous. Everything about me seemed to rarify, the mysterious visitor herself becoming more airy and yet more distinct to my sight than before. I now began to feel as one dying, or rather to experience the sensations which I have sometimes imagined accompany dissolution. I did not think, I did not reason, I did not move; all were alike impossible. I was only conscious of gazing fixedly, vacantly at my Companion.

"Presently I heard a voice saying, 'Son of the Republic, look and learn,' while at the same time my visitor extended her arm eastwardly. I now beheld a heavy white vapor at some distance rising fold upon fold. This gradually dissipated, and I looked upon a strange scene. Before me lay spread out in one vast plain all the countries of the world-Europe, Asia, Africa and America. I saw rolling and tossing between Europe and America the billows of the Atlantic, and between Asia and America lay the Pacific.

'Son of the Republic,' said the same mysterious voice as before,'look and learn.' At that moment I beheld a dark, shadowy being, like an angel, standing, or rather floating in midair; between Europe and America. Dipping water out of the ocean in the hollow of each hand, he sprinkled some upon America with his right hand, while with his left hand he cast some on Europe. Immediately a cloud raised from these countries, and joined in mid-ocean. For a while it remained stationary, and then moved slowly westward, until it enveloped America in its murky folds. Sharp flashes of lightning gleamed through it at intervals, and I heard the smothered groans and cries of the American people.

"A second time the angel dipped water from the ocean, and sprinkled it out as before. The dark cloud was then drawn back to the ocean, in whose heaving billows it sank from view. A third time I heard the mysterious voice saying, 'Son of the Republic, look and learn,' I cast my eyes upon America and beheld villages and towns and cities springing up one after another until the whole land from the Atlantic to the Pacific was dotted with them.

"Again, I heard the mysterious voice say, 'Son of the Republic, the end of the century cometh, look and learn.' At this the dark shadowy angel turned his face southward, and from Africa I saw an ill-omened spectre approach our land. It flitted slowly over every town and city of the latter. The inhabitants presently set themselves in battle array against each other. As I continued looking I saw a bright angel, on whose brow rested a crown of light, on which was traced the word 'Union,' bearing the American flag which he placed between the divided nation, and said, 'Remember ye are brethren.' Instantly, the inhabitants, casting from them their weapons became friends once more, and united around the National Standard.

"And again I heard the mysterious voice saying, 'Son of the Republic, look and learn.' At this the dark, shadowy angel placed a trumpet to his mouth, and blew three distinct blasts; and taking water from the ocean, he sprinkled it upon Europe, Asia and Africa. Then my eyes beheld a fearful scene: from each of these countries arose thick, black clouds that were soon joined into one. Throughout this mass there gleamed a dark red light by which I saw hordes of armed men, who, moving with the cloud, marched by land and sailed by sea to America. Our country was enveloped in this volume of cloud, and 1 saw these vast armies devastate the whole country and burn the villages, towns and cities that I beheld springing up. As my ears listened to the thundering of the cannon, clashing of swords, and the shouts and cries of millions in mortal combat, I heard again the mysterious voice saying, 'Son of the Republic, look and learn.' When the voice had ceased, the dark shadowy angel placed his trumpet once more to his mouth, and blew a long and fearful blast.

"Instantly a light as of a thousand suns shone down from above me, and pierced and broke into fragments the dark cloud which enveloped America. At the same moment the angel upon whose head still shone the word 'Union,' end who bore our national flag in one hand and a sword in the other, descended from the heavens attended by legions of white spirits. These immediately joined the inhabitants of America, who I perceived were well nigh overcome, but who immediately taking courage again, closed up their broken ranks and renewed the battle.

"Again, amid the fearful noise. of the conflict, I heard the mysterious voice saying, 'Son of the Republic, look and learn.' As the voice ceased, the shadowy angel for the last time dipped water from the ocean and sprinkled it upon America. Instantly the dark cloud rolled back, together with the armies it had brought, leaving the inhabitants of the land victorious!

"Then once more I beheld the villages, towns and cities springing up where I had seen them before, while the bright angel, planting the azure standard he had brought in the midst of them, cried with a loud voice:'While the stars remain, and the heavens send down dew upon the earth, so long shall the Union last.' And taking from his brow the crown on which blazoned the word 'Union,' he placed it upon the National Standard while the people, kneeling down, said, 'Amen.'

"The scene instantly began to fade and dissolve, and I at last saw nothing but the rising, curling vapor I at first beheld. This also disappearing, I found myself once more gazing upon the mysterious visitor, who, in the same voice I had heard before, said, 'Son of the Republic, what you have seen is thus interpreted: Three great perils will come upon the Republic. The most fearful is the third, but in this greatest conflict the whole world united shall not prevail against her. Let every child of the Republic learn to live for his God, his land and the Union.' With these words the vision vanished, and I started from my seat and felt that I had seen a vision wherein had been shown to me the birth, progress, and destiny of the United States."

This is what I'm talking about....WE CAN'T JUST KEEP PRINTING MONEY OUT OF NOTHING....

Dec. 24 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Treasury Department will remove the caps on aid to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for the next three years, to allay investor concerns that the companies will exhaust the available government assistance.

The two companies, the largest sources of mortgage financing in the U.S., are currently under government conservatorship and have caps of $200 billion each on backstop capital from the Treasury. Under the new agreement announced today, these limits can rise as needed to cover net worth losses through 2012.

The Obama administration is “beginning to realize it’s not getting better and it’s not likely to get better” soon in the housing market, said Julian Mann, who helps oversee $5.5 billion in bonds as a vice president at First Pacific Advisors LLC in Los Angeles. “They don’t want the foreclosures now, so they’re saying, we’ll pay whatever it takes to continue to kick the can down the road.”

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac now are using a combined $111 billion of the total $400 billion lifeline. Treasury Department officials said they didn’t expect the companies to need assistance beyond what is available under the current caps, barring significant deterioration in the economic outlook.

Today’s announcement “should leave no uncertainty about the Treasury’s commitment to support these firms as they continue to play a vital role in the housing market during this current crisis,” the Treasury said in a statement in Washington.

OP, I will ask you again: DID YOU...OR DID YOU *NOT* SEE GOLD FRINGE ON THE FLAG?this is important. Please answer.

I will again clearly say... I did NOT see gold fringe on the flag!

Where does bamboo come from OP?

Remember this there are no native bamboos in Europe and Antarctica.Bamboo is also the fastest growing plant on earth. e..g Hollow philosophy.

Bamboo was in widespread use in early China as a medium for written documents. The earliest surviving examples of such documents, written in ink on string-bound bundles of bamboo strips (or "slips"), date from the 5th c. BC during the Warring States period. However, references in earlier texts surviving on other media make it clear that some precursor of these Warring States period bamboo slips was in use as early as the late Shang period (from about 1250 BC).Bamboo or wooden strips were the standard writing material during the Han dynasty and excavated examples have been found in abundance.[31] Subsequently, paper began to displace bamboo and wooden strips from mainstream uses, and by the 4th c. AD bamboo had been largely abandoned as a medium for writing in China. [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Lotus

Quoting: Lotus Feet

Reading your reply to the OP, Lotus, it struck me that the dream symbolism was bamboo holding up the American flag, but the bamboo was weak and unable to hold. Does bamboo not come from China? Is China not holding up the US by buying its debt? But China perhaps is weaker than it appears, and can no longer hold.....perhaps it means China will take some monetary action than will "topple the flag" (i.e., the economy). That leaped into my mind when I really Lotus' reply....

OP, I will ask you again: DID YOU...OR DID YOU *NOT* SEE GOLD FRINGE ON THE FLAG?this is important. Please answer.

I will again clearly say... I did NOT see gold fringe on the flag!

Where does bamboo come from OP?

Remember this there are no native bamboos in Europe and Antarctica.Bamboo is also the fastest growing plant on earth. e..g Hollow philosophy.

Bamboo was in widespread use in early China as a medium for written documents. The earliest surviving examples of such documents, written in ink on string-bound bundles of bamboo strips (or "slips"), date from the 5th c. BC during the Warring States period. However, references in earlier texts surviving on other media make it clear that some precursor of these Warring States period bamboo slips was in use as early as the late Shang period (from about 1250 BC).Bamboo or wooden strips were the standard writing material during the Han dynasty and excavated examples have been found in abundance.[31] Subsequently, paper began to displace bamboo and wooden strips from mainstream uses, and by the 4th c. AD bamboo had been largely abandoned as a medium for writing in China. [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Lotus

Reading your reply to the OP, Lotus, it struck me that the dream symbolism was bamboo holding up the American flag, but the bamboo was weak and unable to hold. Does bamboo not come from China? Is China not holding up the US by buying its debt? But China perhaps is weaker than it appears, and can no longer hold.....perhaps it means China will take some monetary action than will "topple the flag" (i.e., the economy). That leaped into my mind when I really Lotus' reply....

OP, I will ask you again: DID YOU...OR DID YOU *NOT* SEE GOLD FRINGE ON THE FLAG?this is important. Please answer.

I will again clearly say... I did NOT see gold fringe on the flag!

Where does bamboo come from OP?

Remember this there are no native bamboos in Europe and Antarctica.Bamboo is also the fastest growing plant on earth. e..g Hollow philosophy.

Bamboo was in widespread use in early China as a medium for written documents. The earliest surviving examples of such documents, written in ink on string-bound bundles of bamboo strips (or "slips"), date from the 5th c. BC during the Warring States period. However, references in earlier texts surviving on other media make it clear that some precursor of these Warring States period bamboo slips was in use as early as the late Shang period (from about 1250 BC).Bamboo or wooden strips were the standard writing material during the Han dynasty and excavated examples have been found in abundance.[31] Subsequently, paper began to displace bamboo and wooden strips from mainstream uses, and by the 4th c. AD bamboo had been largely abandoned as a medium for writing in China. [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Lotus

Reading your reply to the OP, Lotus, it struck me that the dream symbolism was bamboo holding up the American flag, but the bamboo was weak and unable to hold. Does bamboo not come from China? Is China not holding up the US by buying its debt? But China perhaps is weaker than it appears, and can no longer hold.....perhaps it means China will take some monetary action than will "topple the flag" (i.e., the economy). That leaped into my mind when I really Lotus' reply....

Quoting: crazycanuck 807970

Bamboo also grows in middle America and middle America is bible belt is it not? In the bible prophecies the USA is the land of Esau = Hairy and Rev 17 and Rev 18 talks about the USA. God called it a "Dinosaur" and gave a vision of a hairy Mammoth that looks like an Elephant.

This morning I had a vision. I saw a big, beautiful US Flag. When I say “beautiful” I mean it appeared as the flag should in terms of all of its colors, design, and proportions. The colors were very vivid. The white was clean and bright while the red was also very bright, a striking fire-engine red. The flag was extremely impressive and large. Estimating…. I’d say about 10 feet wide and 20 feet long. What I found odd was that it was also very heavy…. Like a bed spread. The material was thick, not like a quilt but rather a heavy blanket. All in all, however, the flag struck me as impressive, clean, bright, large, and beautiful.The flag was flying on this rather short flagpole. If the flag was 10 feet wide then the flagpole was only about 18 feet long. The flagpole was planted in the ground and tilting. The color of the flagpole was an unsightly army green. Then, the flagpole began to bend and suddenly snapped with this beautiful but heavy flag falling to the ground. The flagpole was like a hollow bamboo pole that simply snapped under the weight of the flag. As the pole snapped and the flag tumbled to the ground I felt concerned like, “How could this happen?”

My vision will come to pass although I know I do not comprehend its full meaning…

OP, I will ask you again: DID YOU...OR DID YOU *NOT* SEE GOLD FRINGE ON THE FLAG?this is important. Please answer.

I will again clearly say... I did NOT see gold fringe on the flag!

Where does bamboo come from OP?

Remember this there are no native bamboos in Europe and Antarctica.Bamboo is also the fastest growing plant on earth. e..g Hollow philosophy.

Bamboo was in widespread use in early China as a medium for written documents. The earliest surviving examples of such documents, written in ink on string-bound bundles of bamboo strips (or "slips"), date from the 5th c. BC during the Warring States period. However, references in earlier texts surviving on other media make it clear that some precursor of these Warring States period bamboo slips was in use as early as the late Shang period (from about 1250 BC).Bamboo or wooden strips were the standard writing material during the Han dynasty and excavated examples have been found in abundance.[31] Subsequently, paper began to displace bamboo and wooden strips from mainstream uses, and by the 4th c. AD bamboo had been largely abandoned as a medium for writing in China. [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Lotus

Reading your reply to the OP, Lotus, it struck me that the dream symbolism was bamboo holding up the American flag, but the bamboo was weak and unable to hold. Does bamboo not come from China? Is China not holding up the US by buying its debt? But China perhaps is weaker than it appears, and can no longer hold.....perhaps it means China will take some monetary action than will "topple the flag" (i.e., the economy). That leaped into my mind when I really Lotus' reply....

This morning I had a vision. I saw a big, beautiful US Flag. When I say “beautiful” I mean it appeared as the flag should in terms of all of its colors, design, and proportions. The colors were very vivid. The white was clean and bright while the red was also very bright, a striking fire-engine red. The flag was extremely impressive and large. Estimating…. I’d say about 10 feet wide and 20 feet long. What I found odd was that it was also very heavy…. Like a bed spread. The material was thick, not like a quilt but rather a heavy blanket. All in all, however, the flag struck me as impressive, clean, bright, large, and beautiful.The flag was flying on this rather short flagpole. If the flag was 10 feet wide then the flagpole was only about 18 feet long. The flagpole was planted in the ground and tilting. The color of the flagpole was an unsightly army green. Then, the flagpole began to bend and suddenly snapped with this beautiful but heavy flag falling to the ground. The flagpole was like a hollow bamboo pole that simply snapped under the weight of the flag. As the pole snapped and the flag tumbled to the ground I felt concerned like, “How could this happen?”

My vision will come to pass although I know I do not comprehend its full meaning…

This morning I had a vision. I saw a big, beautiful US Flag. When I say “beautiful” I mean it appeared as the flag should in terms of all of its colors, design, and proportions. The colors were very vivid. The white was clean and bright while the red was also very bright, a striking fire-engine red. The flag was extremely impressive and large. Estimating…. I’d say about 10 feet wide and 20 feet long. What I found odd was that it was also very heavy…. Like a bed spread. The material was thick, not like a quilt but rather a heavy blanket. All in all, however, the flag struck me as impressive, clean, bright, large, and beautiful.The flag was flying on this rather short flagpole. If the flag was 10 feet wide then the flagpole was only about 18 feet long. The flagpole was planted in the ground and tilting. The color of the flagpole was an unsightly army green. Then, the flagpole began to bend and suddenly snapped with this beautiful but heavy flag falling to the ground. The flagpole was like a hollow bamboo pole that simply snapped under the weight of the flag. As the pole snapped and the flag tumbled to the ground I felt concerned like, “How could this happen?”

My vision will come to pass although I know I do not comprehend its full meaning…

The vision shows the collapse of the United States as we know it. The debt is too great to be servised. Traders will abandond the us dollar and the strength of the us economy [which funds the military] will be done.