Thursday, March 28, 2013

12er Shia Mahdi Will Not Behave Like the RasoolAllah (pbuh)

I will post the narrations and thanks to a 12er shia brother I will post how these traditions are weak in grading. I'm glad these traditions are weak. On the contrary, many 12er shias do believe the 11 imams did taqiyyah and the 12th imam will not. I wonder how he is going to bring the utopia that they always talk about since he will not do taqiyyah. I will also post a clip of the 12er shia concept of rajah in the end.

Ali bin al-Husayn narrated from Muhammad bin Yahya al-Attar from Muhammad bin Hassaan ar-Razifrom Muhammad bin Ali al-Kufi from Ahmad binMuhammad bin Abu Nasr from Abdullah bin Bukayr from his father that Zurara had said to Abu Ja'far Muhammadbin Ali al-Baqir (s):“I want you to mention to me the name of one of the virtuous men-I meant al-Qa'im (s).”He said: “His name is like mine.”I said: “Will he act like Muhammad (s)?”He said: “O Zurara, how far! He will not act as the Prophet (s) has acted.”I asked: “May I die for you! Why not?”
He said: “The Prophet (s) has acted leniently towards his umma. He has entreated people kindly whereas al-Qa'im (s) will use his sword with them. He has been ordered by the book, which is with him, to do so. He will kill (bad) people without forgiving anyone. Woe unto whoever opposes him then.
Iqd ad-Durar p.226,
Ithbat al-Hudat , vol.3 p.539,
Hilyatul Abrar , vol.2 p.628,
Biharul Anwar , vol.52 p.353,
Muntakhab al- Athar p.302,
Mo’jam, Ahadeeth al-Imam al-Mahdi, vol.3 p.303.

an-Najashi said: Abu Ja'far al-Qarashi, client, as-Sayrafi, he was titled Abu Samina, very weak, corrupt in belief, he is not to be depended upon in anything.

Ahmad bin Muhammad bin Sa'eed bin Oqda narrated from Ali bin al-Hasan from Muhammad bin Khalid from Tha’laba bin Maymoon that al-Hasan bin Haroon had said:Once I was sitting with Abu Abdullah as-Sadiq (s) whenal-Mu’alla bin Khunays asked him: “Will al-Qa'im (s),when he appears, act unlike the way, in which Ali (s)has acted?”He said: “Yes, he will. Ali has acted with leniency andforgiving because he has known that his Shia are goingto be controlled after him. But al-Qa'im (s), whenappears, will kill and capture because he knows that hisShia will not be defeated after him forever.”

Biharul Anwar , vol.52 p.353, Hilyatul Abrar , vol.2 p.628.

Hasan bin al-Harun is Majhul.

Ali bin al-Husayn narrated from Muhammad bin Yahya al-Attar from Muhammad bin Hassaan ar-Razifrom Muhammad bin Ali al-Kufi from Ahmad binMuhammad bin Abu Nasr from al-Ala’ fro Muhammad binMuslim that Abu Ja'far al-Baqir (s) had said:“If people know what al-Qa'im (s) will do when heappears, most of them will wish he would not appear.He kills great numbers of people. He begins with thepeople of Quraysh. He kills much many of them untilmany people say: He is not from Muhammad’s progeny. If he is from Muhammad’s progeny, he will be merciful!”

“Al-Qa'im will rise with a new task, new principles andnew judgements. He will be severe with the Arabs. Hewill do not but killing. He will not forgive anyone and hewill not care for any blame because he acts for the sakeof Allah.”Ithbat al-Hudat , vol.3 p.540, Biharul Anwar , vol.52 p.354, Mo’jam Ahadeeth al-Imam al-Mahdi, vol.3 p.253

There are two Wasait between Ali bin al-Husayn and Ahmad bin Muhammad bin Abi Nasr, and they are Muhammad bin Hassan ar-Razi and Muhammad bin Ali al- previously mentioned.

Ahmad bin Muhammad bin Sa'eed narrated from Alibin al-Hasan at-Taymali from his father from al-Hasan bin Ali bin Yousuf and Muhammad bin Ali al-Kufi fromSa’dan bin Muslim from some of his companions that Abu Abdullah as-Sadiq (s) had said:“While a man is behind al-Qa'im (s) ordering and forbidding, he (al-Qa'im) will say: Turn him! They turn him to be before al-Qa'im (s), who will order to kill him. Then everything in the world will fear him.”Ithbat al-Hudat , vol.3 p.541, Biharul Anwar, vol.52 p.355, Mo’jam Ahadeeth al-Imam al-Mahdi, vol.4 p.41.

As though 'from his father' is an addition, since Ali bin al-Hasan does narrate from al-Hasan bin Ali bin Yusuf directly.

Since Muhammad bin Ali al-Kufi is Maqrun with al-Hasan bin Ali bin Yusuf then he does not harm the narration,

but -

Sa'dan bin Muslim is Majhul, and he is narrating from uknown companions.

Thus it is Mursal.

Ali bin Ahmad al-Bandaneeji narrated fromObaydillah bin Musa al-Alawi from Ahmad binMuhammad bin Khalid from his father from Sa’dan binMuslim from Hisham bin Salim that Abu Abdullah as-Sadiq (s) had said:“As a man is behind al-Qa'im ordering and forbidding,he (al-Qa'im) will order that he is to be killed. Then everything in the world will fear him.” (Ibid)

Ali bin Ahmad al-Bandaneeji is Dhaif to Allamah, and both Ubaydullah bin Musa al-Alawi and Sa'dan bin Muslim are Majhul.

As much as the 12er shia brother put his effort to weaken each tradition, the sad part is people like him are not among the popular ones who lead their majalis. Instead we have presentations like the one below.