Brewer tried this route and failed. Scream states' rights for some shiat and then come crawling back to the feds when the will of the people conflicts with your authoritarian worldview. These asswipes don't belong in government.

violentsalvation:Brewer tried this route and failed. Scream states' rights for some shiat and then come crawling back to the feds when the will of the people conflicts with your authoritarian worldview. These asswipes don't belong in government.

violentsalvation:Brewer tried this route and failed. Scream states' rights for some shiat and then come crawling back to the feds when the will of the people conflicts with your authoritarian worldview. These asswipes don't belong in government.

RoyBatty:violentsalvation: Brewer tried this route and failed. Scream states' rights for some shiat and then come crawling back to the feds when the will of the people conflicts with your authoritarian worldview. These asswipes don't belong in government.

This was Brewer's route and still is:

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She is only going ahead with issuing permits because a court ordered her to.

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If there was audio associated with that article it would be the sound of an evil cackle.

if Obama really wanted a game changer he should announce that he would move to get the federal controlled substance act amended to allow for medical mj. It might not pick him up a lot of new allies but it would sure energize a lot of his base.

Hobodeluxe:if Obama really wanted a game changer he should announce that he would move to get the federal controlled substance act amended to allow for medical mj. It might not pick him up a lot of new allies but it would sure energize a lot of his base.

This is going to sound bad, but he can't do a damned thing this term about drug law reform because he's back. It wou just add fuel to the Conservative fear of "The Other".

Texian:Hobodeluxe: if Obama really wanted a game changer he should announce that he would move to get the federal controlled substance act amended to allow for medical mj. It might not pick him up a lot of new allies but it would sure energize a lot of his base.

This is going to sound bad, but he can't do a damned thing this term about drug law reform because he's back. It wou just add fuel to the Conservative fear of "The Other".

nah he could team up with Ron Paul and a few other white libertarian types.

Hobodeluxe:Texian: Hobodeluxe: if Obama really wanted a game changer he should announce that he would move to get the federal controlled substance act amended to allow for medical mj. It might not pick him up a lot of new allies but it would sure energize a lot of his base.

This is going to sound bad, but he can't do a damned thing this term about drug law reform because he's back. It wou just add fuel to the Conservative fear of "The Other".

nah he could team up with Ron Paul and a few other white libertarian types.

for that matter he could even get Pat Robertson to help too. that would give him plenty of cover.

Hobodeluxe:if Obama really wanted a game changer he should announce that he would move to get the federal controlled substance act amended to allow for medical mj. It might not pick him up a lot of new allies but it would sure energize a lot of his base.

yeomanfarmer:violentsalvation: Brewer tried this route and failed. Scream states' rights for some shiat and then come crawling back to the feds when the will of the people conflicts with your authoritarian worldview. These asswipes don't belong in government.

Yet we vote them in. Sad.

Vote for them? At least 30% consider arpaio and brewer national heroes.

"The White Mountain Health Center sued Maricopa County and the Arizona Department of Health Services after the County refused to issue the proper zoning permits that would allow the Center to operate a non-profit medical marijuana dispensary and cultivation site in Sun City."It is the County's position that the AMMA is in direct violation of the federal Controlled Substances Act and therefore cannot be implemented without exposing County employees to the risk of federal prosecution," said Montgomery."

Why is it that I suspect that somewhere in the Maricopa County Charter there's a provision which denies anyone from having any fun, ever?

I assume they're going to argue that the "Interstate Commerce" clause in the Constitution is what gives the Feds the right to strike down the local law.So in what way does pot grown in Arizona, sold in Arizona and consumed in Arizona constitute "Interstate Commerce?"

Texian:Hobodeluxe: if Obama really wanted a game changer he should announce that he would move to get the federal controlled substance act amended to allow for medical mj. It might not pick him up a lot of new allies but it would sure energize a lot of his base.

This is going to sound bad, but he can't do a damned thing this term about drug law reform because he's back. It wou just add fuel to the Conservative fear of "The Other".

I realize this is anecdotal, but I know quite a few self identified Republicans who support marijuana legalization. Contrary to popular belief, democrats are not the only ones who enjoy a good long toke. And the people you speak of who would have a problem with a black man changing federal drug laws were never going to vote for him anyway, so fark them. I think if nothing else it would make Obama more popular among his base who has expressed disinterest in voting this election.

violentsalvation:Brewer tried this route and failed. Scream states' rights for some shiat and then come crawling back to the feds when the will of the people conflicts with your authoritarian worldview. These asswipes don't belong in government.

mutterfark:I've never liked "medical marijuana". It should be legalised for recreational use. Responsible people can safely use alcohol and I don't see any evidence that marijuana would be any different.

It took a Constitutional Amendment to ban alcohol, why is this any different?

And BTW, I'm sure marijuana helps some medical conditions, but fark that, I should have the right to get high if I want to for purely recreational reasons.

I'm suprised this point isn't argued more. Every article seems to be about the medical use for marijuana, when we all know people just want to get high. But that should be fine. People can get drunk if they want. Let them smoke. Of course, you shouldn't drive high and all that jazz. But if someone wants to light up at home and take the edge off, why are we still trying to stop them?

TimonC346:HotIgneous Intruder: Growing and smoking the weed is a federal crime.Get over it or change the laws, idiots.

Yeah, they are trying to make it legal at the state level. I realize federal laws trump state ones, sure, but can you give me a reason marijuana is illegal?

Bonus points for not using the phrase "dangerous drugs". Because it isn't.

/don't smoke//don't get why it is illegal

I'd like to see this as well. A good, solid, no bs argument as to why marijuana is illegal. Why is it less acceptable than alcohol.

NutWrench:I assume they're going to argue that the "Interstate Commerce" clause in the Constitution is what gives the Feds the right to strike down the local law.So in what way does pot grown in Arizona, sold in Arizona and consumed in Arizona constitute "Interstate Commerce?"

They are using Article Six of the Constitution here, which states, basically, that Federal law trumps state law... and as was pointed out up-thread, they are in the process of making themselves look stoopud once people point out to them that Article Six *also* trumps their efforts at other things. Then again, for the GOP, Article Ten (states rights) uber alles, unless it applies to something that gets in the way of something else they feel strongly about.

NutWrench:I assume they're going to argue that the "Interstate Commerce" clause in the Constitution is what gives the Feds the right to strike down the local law.So in what way does pot grown in Arizona, sold in Arizona and consumed in Arizona constitute "Interstate Commerce?"

I've heard it before.... it has to do with the fact that you are not consuming pot from another state, and it interfers with that growers illegal crop. If I wasn't on my phone I'd search for it, but it was either mpp or normal that published an article on it. I think it was a grower in KY that they used it on.

Hobodeluxe:if Obama really wanted a game changer he should announce that he would move to get the federal controlled substance act amended to allow for medical mj. It might not pick him up a lot of new allies but it would sure energize a lot of his base.

what do you mean? you think 0bama would actually do something?he still hasn't done anything about gay marriage express his personal viewpoint.

violentsalvation:come crawling back to the feds when the will of the people conflicts with your authoritarian worldviewfederal law. These peopleasswipes don't belong inhave been supporting the federal government government.

ftfy

Arizona tried to enforce immigration when the feds wouldn't because they were too busy sending out illegal guns.

Now they are being blamed for enforcing a federal law.

At least they understand the bounds of the fed government and state rights. Do you?

Hobodeluxe:if Obama really wanted a game changer he should announce that he would move to get the federal controlled substance act amended to allow for medical mj. It might not pick him up a lot of new allies but it would sure energize a lot of his base.

He doesn't have to do that. The CSA gives him pretty wide latitude on how to classify various drugs. All he really needs to do is issue an executive order stating that marijuana has recognized medical properties, so he can classify it as Schedule II.

Texian:Maricopa County jagg-offs pick this subject to agree with the Feds on?

Well color me surprised.

Actually they are pretty consistent with agreeing with the feds laws.If you recall they were passing laws that mirrored federal laws on immigration because the feds no longer follow federal laws concerning immigration.

The feds are the ones picking and choosing what laws to follow...well them and California.