I believe that Sebelius and most of the Obama administration are so drunk with power that they think they can admit their intentions with no risk. In addition, Obama is in his last term and it’s now or never for him to destroy as much of ‘western civilization’ as he can accomplish. Does anyone think the MSM will focus on Sebelius admitting what we already guessed were the real intentions of Obamacare? Hardly likely.

And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more  we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.

― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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posted on 10/12/2013 1:29:23 PM PDT
by 2ndDivisionVet
(You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)

I am NOT anxious for the shutdown to end...I believe the longer it goes on, the better for America...You know what? I even think that default is NOT the worst that could happen...In fact, in my mind it is just one more area that Obama is using the crisis to his advantage. They will just keep stealing our tax money unless we boldly say no - change your W-2s....STOP STEALING OUR HARD EARNED TAX DOLLARS.

I believe that Sebelius and most of the Obama administration are so drunk with power that they think they can admit their intentions with no risk. In addition, Obama is in his last term and its now or never for him to destroy as much of western civilization as he can accomplish. Does anyone think the MSM will focus on Sebelius admitting what we already guessed were the real intentions of Obamacare? Hardly likely.

I mentioned that large number of card-carrying DSA'ers from the Dem caucus to a closet Communist from San Francisco eight years ago, and his answer was, "You're so naïve!" I probably was, somewhat, but his answer told me I was right on target.

I wouldn't then have believed they were so close to being able to implement full-on totalitarianism as they've succeeded through Barry, but I'm not naïve about them now, either. ;-)

HUH?!? I'm not hearing things, she really did make this Freudian slip, right?

Either there is a part of the interview that is edited out and she is being sarcastic in refuting some ones claim that ObamaCare will destroy Western Civ and so her comments were edited to be taken out of context ... or ... just damn.

She acts like she is on drugs or something so maybe she just accidentally let the cat out of the bag.

Ordinarily, it would be hard to believe, but the plain fact that we are beginning to see that ObamaCare really does threaten western civilization does give one cause to ponder.

If the intent is to subsidize health insurance up to 4x the poverty level—which I think is approximately what the exchanges do, then that can simply be accomplished through the filing of tax returns. (And no, I don’t think people should be subsidized up to 4x the poverty level.)

If the intent is to insure those with uninsurable pre-existing conditions, then some states have already been handling that with high-risk pools for state subsidies.

There is no reason on earth to put together those monster exchanges that, yes, good ol’ Mitt Romney pioneered, unless you’re planning to roll over to a fully nationalized system as soon as you can get away with it.

Everyone I talk says they aren’t buying into this thing, even the libs I know - and I know a LOT. For the libs they say it costs too much - Gee how “affordable”. For everyone else they aren’t for the simple fact it’s flat out tyranny. The government is forcing you to buy a companys product simply because you exist. Then you get these idiots who compare it to car insurance. First off car insurance is on the free market. Health insurance is not. Second, driving a car is a privilege not a right. Obamacommiecare brings forth the horror of possibly equating a human life to that of privilege rather than right by getting the government involved which is the main reason this thing has to GO.

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posted on 10/12/2013 4:03:12 PM PDT
by GrandJediMasterYoda
(What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)

Not much left to destroy. The Constitution has been largely ignored by Congress, the Supreme Court and the President since the days of FDR. Otherwise, how could something like Social Security be instituted without a Constitutional amendment?

Exactly, the shutdown beats the hell of the current path. Anything is preferable to this gang of criminals destroying our Constitution. Any cost to stop them. I hope the shutdown lasts until early 2017.

The truckers have no idea of the power they hold to stop this tyranny. A one week shutdown of goods delivery and chaos would ensue in every city. Government would lose their power and the criminals in power would be arrested. It happens in other countries and it could happen here. We simply start over and put term limits in place.

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posted on 10/12/2013 4:32:42 PM PDT
by Neoliberalnot
(Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)

Obama - "Since Obamacare will not work, we are going to have to dump everyone in America onto MedicAID, there by getting to SOCIALIZED NATIONAL HEALTH CARE a little earlier than I had anticipated. See how we are TRANSOFRMING America, you should all be thanking me."

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