I don't see what could possible be wrong with living under a "fascist" state like the Third Reich "was"...

It could be heaven...No person comes and talks about pornography which is damaging to a country etc etc...

Personally I can't see how the person in here could compare today with yester-year in Germany...There is a huge difference first and foremost being. Hitler's so-called "fascist" state advocated German ideals to Germans keeping them pure and German!!! Today what do they do? They tell you how bad it is to be a German and how guilty you are for just being born! You killed 6-million "jews"...That is the difference. Where Hitler supposedly took away "free speech" he talked about and published positive material to the German people and that in return made them positive. Today this is not the case, I would with the last dying breath I have live under a state such as Hitler's Germany with no "free speech" and positive broadcasts then live and hear how bad we are everyday.

There is no comparison between the two and I'm actually shocked at how idiotic and low a person can actually sink to get their own idiotic ideals across. Damn the nation that burned communist material, damn them for ridding the nation of porn and other bad influences, damn them for making it a respectable society <Those are things to live for, you have freedom to talk as you please in your own home as it should be. When you're in public you have a responsibility to act as an upstanding person and in such a regard you have your freedom to speak. No person in here can tell me they support freedom of speech to its fullest, because I know the second someone bad mouths your husband/wife, father/mother, brother/sister, daughter or son, you would scream bloody murder and beat the hell out of such a person!

Why then should a nation state tolerate such negativity? I see this thread as a double standard in itself...You won't tolerate freedom of speech at all times, and saying that I can't see why even the leader of a nation should tolerate "freedom of speech" all the time!

To hell with freedom of speech, I'd rather live my life without a tongue in a respectable and WHITE HONOURABLE nation, then live my life in a corrupted and damaged society.

I'll use my so-called freedom of speech until the day comes when I don't need it anymore and that day is when our countries have a respectable leader doing positive things for their country like Hitler did for Germany, until then I'll use this "freedom of speech" in any and every way I can to obtain the ultimate goal and evidently won't need to criticize a man that brought nothing but good to a Nation.

I don't worship Hitler, I admire him and what he accomplished for my Proud country!!! I know that over 95% of the German population of the "Nazi" era would have agreed with me, since not a single one of them ever complained, infact they voted him back into power in '36 with the above mentioned percentage! And as mentioned by a previous poster, they died and fought to their fullest to protect those ideals and their so-called "fascist" non-existent "freedom of speech" nation.

I think I could live in any society, as I woud adapt to it and keep my mouth shut, even in a Communist society. But living in a Fascist-Socialist or a Marxist-Socialist economy would really suck. I don't sympathize or get into the ying-yang theory of one of these is good and the other it bad. No, they both suck.

Here's the way I look at it. Both Communism and Fascism had their era of success in terms of being superpowers but if you look at America its Government has been there before the two of them and now America stands alone as the only superpower after the two of them (except for Asian China, they seem to be maintaing Communism and approaching superpower status, but it didn't work for a long time with whites). Both worked in the shorterm, but capitalism is what lasted, proving its stability. Granted some racial integrity and immigration control would be desirable but still capitialism.

The reason that our nations were so easily lost was because they didn't have any ideals.

Germany had the highest of ideals and as a result it took THE ENTIRE WORLD to destroy Germany.

It took a few Jews, some brainwashed Whites, and a dash of Negroes/ Turks to ruin our nations.

Bernd,

Australia is kind of "The Land Time Forgot" in quite a few ways.

Roy H. is just a youngster.... then again so are we.

Ummmm

Capitalism and Communism are ying and yang and yes they do both suck.

National Socialism is a government on nature's ideals.

Mussolini's "fascism" (fascio- "a united group") was essentially National Socialism without much focus on race.

Ja, I know my friend...Was just stating though. If he is willing to take in the point of views of myself and many others in here and look at it positively and with an open-mind then I can and would easily assume, he wants to discuss the situation in further detail. Perhaps learn some of our points while we learn some of his...If he doesn't want to look at it objectively though and just criticize then I can't go for it the same way I would in the former...

In such a case then, I must state what I always do when going into a discussion with someone, whether online or offline. If you don't know what you're talking about, then don't talk about it. If he is willing to at least look at our views and learn or understand them, of course I was perhaps harsh, or too attacking in my post regarding my own personal opinion in this discussion...If not, I can't see where I went wrong with it though.

I'm all for discussing with people that want to learn something, just like I want or definately do learn things from them...Else if you don't know what you're talking about keep quiet, that way you won't drop yourself into something you can't get out off, like mentioned above.

I understand and take in Roy H's point of view...In a common/logical and even intellectual discussion it would usually go both ways, now he can try and understand or take in our point of view. If he however prefers not too, then this discussion should come to a halt since he's not willing to learn anything.

Here's the way I look at it. Both Communism and Fascism had their era of success in terms of being superpowers but if you look at America its Government has been there before the two of them and now America stands alone as the only superpower after the two of them (except for Asian China, they seem to be maintaing Communism and approaching superpower status, but it didn't work for a long time with whites).

China has improved economically, and lasted, because it has allowed limited capitalism in some ways. They almost have more of a mix now. They allow some free enterprise, but not at the expense of integrity in the type of nation they want to be.

and now America stands alone as the only superpower after the two of them

Firstly, America is a fascist nation.

Fascism is an a-political economic theory of private companies that operate for a nation-state.

Halliburton is used the same way by the US as Krupp was by Germany.

"Capitalist" nations are just really ineffective forms of fascism-lite.

For instance commercial airlines, Boeing and Lockheed Martin Marietta are subsidized by the government only in emergencies and they are forced to make a lot of their money in the open market.

In Fascism instead of a free market reliance the government will offer incentives for companies to compete over. This guarantees a customer (government) and the companies can focus on quality over cutting prices in an open market bidding war.

France used to be fascist until 20 years ago.

Japan is still fascist.

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Secondly, America was isolated from two World Wars.

Buddhism survived only due to the Himalayas, not it's own resourcefulness.
Tibet is now wiped out and owned by China because it was no longer isolated.

I'll agree with that, and I'll also say that it was really the Soviet Union that was too much for Germany to handle, America came in late in the war. But then the Soviet Union collapsed so that doesn't say much for Communism either.

America can take a lot of the credit for the victory over Japan though, as America clearly dealt many of the key blows to them.

This is a good topic. Finally a good interesting topic that isn't discussing "are Jews white."

It's odd how today people are still believing in this. No freedom of speech. BAM, thats the first thing that kills any promise or hope for a future movement. Places in europe or america wont even have this again, even if it begins as a mixture of what it originally was with some rights added in. Why? Let's face it, who wants a nutcase who believed in hitler to get into power?? First he says that we all get rights, get's into power and destroys any form of democracy or freedom.

Then what?

I see these talks about a NSM '08, right? What are those guys thinking? Would anyone in a free, democratic world wan't to vote to have their freedom of politics and speech taken away from them and get places into a world where one wrong word can get you killed?

Let's face it, the people who believe in a Hitler type National Socialism just want to belong to something bigger then themselfs. To put it more simply, to feel like they are doing something productive that influences the people of the world around them.

I have a suggestion for you guys...

Join a club? Go to some religious fiasco?

I'm all for the Socialist idea where State and Private Industry are mixed, and the other parts of it. As long as the people of whatever nation it gets installed in have basic human rights, freedom of expression, and the freedom to vote.

Argue with this: Why do the people who believe in the nazi ideals do so? It doesnt have a future in the modern world, because of 1; it's history ( nazi-germany ) and 2; the restrictions on the nations inhabitance ( the people ). It's a question that no one ever answers without making a fool out of them selfs.

( Let me add in that the "14 words" is a great bit of words. I personally agree with the noble parts of "Nazism" as they call it. )