1. what time did FT/BE departed? 2. Find out how long would it take to reach the roadblock from the pit stop. 3. Add 6 hours (they took two and a half hours, plus the penalty)

You get the estimated time for Brian and Ericka's pit stop arrival (plus or minus)

I don't really care that much, in fact I don't even remember what it looked like when they got to the pitstop, just that it was daylight. If it was daylight, it would have to be after a certain time-when the sun rose. Right? If you think about it, you don't need to do all of the other stuff, just figure out how long it took them to get from the road block to the pitstop and then add (at least) what time the sun rose. It's really not that difficult.

I totally did not think that it was a strategic move on BE's part to quit the Roadblock. Hey, the penalty's 4 hours! In this penultimate leg, the likelihood of another team making such a grave mistake that will cost 4 hours is really low. What's more, they were already the last team there, couldn't he have continued on? After all, Dan already told him it started with an "F", I'm sure he wouldn't take 4 hours even if he unscrambled all the letters one by one would he. And in the first place, I don't see what's so difficult about the Roadblock. Oh well, but I'm just glad it's them who're out and not anyone else. And I admire the way they took it. =)

Adding that at about 9:35 into the ep 11 show, you can hear BE ask FT "you want to do the last one, right...so I got this one", so I think we can safely say the 6 limit RB rule remains in place.

Boy, I'll bet they regret that decision...

OK, Peach and Abby, how do you explain the result in AR10, where the ROADBLOCK split was "Lyn 5, Karlyn 7"?

As I said before, Karlyn was allowed to do 7 Roadblocks on Season 10 because the cap was lifted due to it having 13 roadblocks. Most probably, Lyn performed an unaired Roadblock. Eric in All-Stars confirmed the cap was set back to 6 after he stated in an episode that he had maxed out.

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Adding that at about 9:35 into the ep 11 show, you can hear BE ask FT "you want to do the last one, right...so I got this one", so I think we can safely say the 6 limit RB rule remains in place.

Boy, I'll bet they regret that decision...

OK, Peach and Abby, how do you explain the result in AR10, where the ROADBLOCK split was "Lyn 5, Karlyn 7"?

Since you ask so nicely

Season 10 had 12 legs but 13 Roadblocks, BECAUSE there was the TBC in leg 9 where one leg had 2.

Teams were well aware throughout the race that the RB split needed to stay even , but with 13 RB's, someone would do 6, the other person 7.

There was an unaired RB in Mauritius, on leg 7. This was the episode that had full video spoilers, and then was not shown on air.

Lyn did this RB, which consisted of kayaking out to a large boat (I believe this may have been the Isla Mauritia??), Swim over and board that boat, where they were outfitted in an old fashioned "Diver's Bell Helmet". They then had to walk underwater across a path through the coral reef collecting a series of letters. when they had all their letters, they had to unscramble them (still underwater), in order to reveal the name of their next destination, which was the Post Office on the western shore....

They then had to swim back from the boat to their kayak, and paddle all the way back to shore.

Lyn had some trouble with this task in two areas, which lost her some time.

The first was that being very buoyant, she had difficulty getting down to the bottom and staying there. The next was getting back into the kayak. The paddle back was also quite a distance.

So of the 13 RB's she did 6, Karlyn 7.

Interestingly...Lyn and Karlyn were the ONLY team to do the full 13 RB's that season, as both Tyler and James and Rob and Kimberly had FF's...leaving their totals at 6/6 (including the unaired RB).

Source? Lyn Turk Lyn!!

And I STILL grieve for not getting to see this RB!!!

But to take us back on topic... the RB rule appears to still be in complete effect.

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Adding that at about 9:35 into the ep 11 show, you can hear BE ask FT "you want to do the last one, right...so I got this one", so I think we can safely say the 6 limit RB rule remains in place.

Boy, I'll bet they regret that decision...

OK, Peach and Abby, how do you explain the result in AR10, where the ROADBLOCK split was "Lyn 5, Karlyn 7"?

Since you ask so nicely

Season 10 had 12 legs but 13 Roadblocks, BECAUSE there was the TBC in leg 9 where one leg had 2.

Teams were well aware throughout the race that the RB split needed to stay even , but with 13 RB's, someone would do 6, the other person 7.

There was an unaired RB in Mauritius, on leg 7. This was the episode that had full video spoilers, and then was not shown on air.

Lyn did this RB, which consisted of kayaking out to a large boat (I believe this may have been the Isla Mauritia??), Swim over and board that boat, where they were outfitted in an old fashioned "Diver's Bell Helmet". They then had to walk underwater across a path through the coral reef collecting a series of letters. when they had all their letters, they had to unscramble them (still underwater), in order to reveal the name of their next destination, which was the Post Office on the western shore....

They then had to swim back from the boat to their kayak, and paddle all the way back to shore.

Lyn had some trouble with this task in two areas, which lost her some time.

The first was that being very buoyant, she had difficulty getting down to the bottom and staying there. The next was getting back into the kayak. The paddle back was also quite a distance.

So of the 13 RB's she did 6, Karlyn 7.

Interestingly...Lyn and Karlyn were the ONLY team to do the full 13 RB's that season, as both Tyler and James and Rob and Kimberly had FF's...leaving their totals at 6/6 (including the unaired RB).

Source? Lyn Turk Lyn!!

And I STILL grieve for not getting to see this RB!!!

But to take us back on topic... the RB rule appears to still be in complete effect.

Adding that at about 9:35 into the ep 11 show, you can hear BE ask FT "you want to do the last one, right...so I got this one", so I think we can safely say the 6 limit RB rule remains in place.

Boy, I'll bet they regret that decision...

OK, Peach and Abby, how do you explain the result in AR10, where the ROADBLOCK split was "Lyn 5, Karlyn 7"?

As I said before, Karlyn was allowed to do 7 Roadblocks on Season 10 because the cap was lifted due to it having 13 roadblocks. Most probably, Lyn performed an unaired Roadblock. Eric in All-Stars confirmed the cap was set back to 6 after he stated in an episode that he had maxed out.

Dan,I think the cap of 6 was not lifted because it does not exist. Here are the ROADBLOCKs and who took them in AR10:

There are either 13 or 12 episodes, depending on how you count the TBC that starts in leg 9. There is one unaired ROADBLOCK. The count is unequivocal Lyn 5 Karlyn 7. WRP listed this as 12 episodes, not 13 and there are clearly 12 legs which contain ROADBLOCKS. How would an unaired ROADBLOCK impact ROADBLOCK balancing requirements imposed by WRP? None of us knows. Until we do, the fact is that a 12 episode show did not have a cap at 6 ROADBLOCKs.

By the way, thanks for the data to the AR10 leg racing reports issued by mswood in 2006. They were clear and it was relatively easy to find the ROADBLOCK information. I made one interpretation error and one transcription error in placing the information above, but Raymond corrected them. Those corrections had no impact on my conclusions.

There are either 13 or 12 episodes, depending on how you count the TBC that starts in leg 9. There is one unaired ROADBLOCK. The count is unequivocal Lyn 5 Karlyn 7. WRP listed this as 12 episodes, not 13 and there are clearly 12 legs which contain ROADBLOCKS. How would an unaired ROADBLOCK impact ROADBLOCK balancing requirements imposed by WRP? None of us knows. Until we do, the fact is that a 12 episode show did not have a cap at 6 ROADBLOCKs.

apskip, you are of course welcome to your opinion. However, in this case we DO know the answer.

Again, 12 episodes...13 Roadblocks.

Teams knew the entire race that they must maintain an even split. Once the TBC was revealed, that count then increased from 6/6. Of course the total had to increase from 12, since there were now 13 RB's, and teams thought there might be yet another.

Why would unaired or not matter? During the race, teams certainly wouldn't know it might not be aired, nor would production. Of course the unaired RB counts in the balance...no one knew then it wouldn't air. It was certainly run.

And Lyn absolutely knows the answer to this, and I discussed this with her last night for well over an hour. The FACT is that teams were VERY much aware of the RB rules at the time. The RB limit was indisputably in place, whether that limit turned out to be 6 or 7 doesn't matter.

Karlyn actually took the skydiving RB (which Lyn VERY much wanted to do), because they were still anticipating some sort of puzzle/memory/race history challenge at the finale, and Lyn had kept a eecord and studied all of the flags/tasks/etc along the way, and was the one best prepared for that kind of task.

Sorry guys, I know this might seem off-topic, but it is important to be clear that since season 5, the "Bowling Moms' rule" has stood, and teams know at the outset that they are expected to maintain an even split. An "even" split of 13 would of course be 6/7.

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I'm not peach, but I can say that the split just had to be attained, mainly because we see people forced to do Roadblocks (Amber, Danielle and Hayden all had to do the last two Roadblocks, Yolanda had to do the last 3). I suspect Maria/Tiffany would've been crusing along this path also; at their elimination Tiffany was up 5-2 (and of course, they would still have the haybales to contend with).

I think the start of the leg to the end of Kafka hell took an hour and a half (unless you're Herb/Nate ). Golems took another two hours (unless you're Sam/Dan and argue for an hour ). Glass carrying probably took around the same time as bickering + golem handling. Add another half hour for travel, and another penalty for Brian/Ericka writing the letters down, and here we are.

Dan,I think the cap of 6 was not lifted because it does not exist. Here are the ROADBLOCKs and who took them in AR10:

I don't how many times this has to be explained to you, ap, but it's clear that you don't want to accept the explanation.

Why don't you let me come to your house and hit you over the head with a Ball-peen hammer? Maybe you can better understand.

Oh c'mon AsiaFan, be nice! It seems we have a very low tolerance here for anyone who doesn't understand something, which is unfortunate. I find that comment offensive to me, and I'm sure it was to apskip. I don't think that is called for.

I don't think this was mentioned, but the Roadblock cap was not lifted away entirely, but just raised to 7 instead of 6.

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Dan,I think the cap of 6 was not lifted because it does not exist. Here are the ROADBLOCKs and who took them in AR10:

I don't how many times this has to be explained to you, ap, but it's clear that you don't want to accept the explanation.

Why don't you let me come to your house and hit you over the head with a Ball-peen hammer? Maybe you can better understand.

Oh c'mon AsiaFan, be nice! It seems we have a very low tolerance here for anyone who doesn't understand something, which is unfortunate. I find that comment offensive to me, and I'm sure it was to apskip. I don't think that is called for.

I don't think this was mentioned, but the Roadblock cap was not lifted away entirely, but just raised to 7 instead of 6.

It's not low tolerance hooky, it's the fact that apskip can never admit to being wrong, even when he obviously is.

Dan,I think the cap of 6 was not lifted because it does not exist. Here are the ROADBLOCKs and who took them in AR10:

I don't how many times this has to be explained to you, ap, but it's clear that you don't want to accept the explanation.

Why don't you let me come to your house and hit you over the head with a Ball-peen hammer? Maybe you can better understand.

Oh c'mon AsiaFan, be nice! It seems we have a very low tolerance here for anyone who doesn't understand something, which is unfortunate. I find that comment offensive to me, and I'm sure it was to apskip. I don't think that is called for.

I don't think this was mentioned, but the Roadblock cap was not lifted away entirely, but just raised to 7 instead of 6.

It's not low tolerance hooky, it's the fact that apskip can never admit to being wrong, even when he obviously is.

Yeah, I get that, but I don't think that's cause for personal attacks.

Anyway (since I'm the king of off-topic-ness), lets get back on topic here.

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