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Pope: All should kiss “baby Jesus”

– People should take the little figurine of Jesus from their Nativity scene and kiss it, “and tell Jesus, ‘I want to humble like you, humble like God,’”

The Pope and bow before his christ, and kiss the blond plastic doll with blue eyes.

The Christmas season is a time to learn from baby Jesus to let go of selfishness and be humble and giving as he is, Pope Francis has said.

People should take the little figurine of Jesus from their Nativity scene and kiss it, “and tell Jesus, ‘I want to humble like you, humble like God,’” the Pope said today during his weekly general audience in St. Peter’s Square.
The Pope dedicated his catechesis to the importance of contemplating baby Jesus. The Christmas season offers a timely occasion for this reflection, since many people customarily set up a Nativity scene at home, he said.

The Pope offers incense to the plastic doll, and declear it “holy”.

Pope Francis said the figure of the holy infant in his simple crib invites people to adore the child Jesus and to contemplate the mystery of the incarnation as a revelation of God’s saving love.

To be elevated to the seat of the ultimate global “peacemaker”, the Pope are in need of Christians rallying behind the papacy. If he cant be presented as a Christian leader, neither will other religions stand united behind “the holy see”.

Many protestant Christians have already returned to Rome, in their hearts and minds. When they see the Pope kissing a blue eyed, blond baby doll, they accept this doll to be Jesus of the Bible. When the Pope offer incense to the doll, and declear it holy and an object of worship, most Christians to not raise the alarm bell. They keep mum.

The Bible explains that Jesus the Messiah has born in the Middle East, by a Jewess. She had most likely dark complexions, and brown eyes. The Italian “Christ” looked like a child of a blond, white skinned Roman soldier. He is a gross example of a false European made Messiah.

Regardless of who the Messiah looked like, the Bible says its damnable to worship the creation. This plastic doll is make by human hands, and leads people into idolatry in the name of Christ. While the Pope desire that all of use should bow before the doll, and kiss it, I would rather offer a stern warning:

Do never bow before such Roman Catholic idols and objects of worship. Resist this kind of copy-cat religion who defame the true Messiah in the name of “Christ”.

Jesus warned us about fakes, that would misuse His name. They only offer God of the Bible some lip-service, and some religious act every sunday.

He replied, ‘Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written: ‘“These people honour me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.

The rest of the week they serve the devil, and behave like pagans. Surrender your life in sin and indulgences today. Do not be involved in the actives of this corrupt generation, but make the living God the Lord and Master of your live. 24X7.

54 thoughts on “Pope: All should kiss “baby Jesus””

A baby can not object and resist being “baptized” by a Roman Catholic priest. It like a funny kind of forced conversion, and enlistment in the chronicals of the papacy. But as adults, we can both rebuke the Pope, and say yes to Jesus of the Bible. All who belive and are baptized will be saved.

There is an example of babies being baptized in the bible. I think the major problem is they baptize them as Catholics and not simply baptized into Christ. Paul for example says he only baptized a few people himself so that people would not get the wrong idea thinking they were baptized into Paul or were baptized into Paul.

1 Cor 1:13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?

Acts 16:33 Shows the head of the household being baptized and the whole household is baptized with him. So it seems that if the parent or guardian are baptized the children in their care or custody are baptized too automatically, since they are not of age to make decisions for themselves.

Acts 16:33 do not confirm baptism of infants. You present a typical negative interpretation of scripture. The logic is that since it is NOT written that NO infants were baptized, there might have been some.

The practice of infant baptism goes against the idea of how people are saved. People shall hear the gospel being preached, being touched by the Holy Spirit, and chose baptism by thier own free will. An infant can not listen, can not understand, and obviopusly not take any decission.

I haven’t heard the pope say anything scriptural yet without putting a spin onto it, and turn it into something entirely different…..and a false man made doctrine. Christians simply should not listen to this man.

Isaiah 5:20″ Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!”

How else could children be saved. But belief of one believer conveys to immediate family. A logical example:

1 cor 7:13 But to the rest I say, not the Lord, that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he must not divorce her. 13And a woman who has an unbelieving husband, and he consents to live with her, she must not send her husband away. 14For the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband; for otherwise your children are unclean, but now they are holy.…

One of the core doctrines of Baptist churces, is that all children are covered by the mercy of Jesus. Till they grow up, and can understand what sin is. Neither this doctrine is perfect, and can not set aside the souvernity of God. He is free to save whoever he likes. And generational curses, are there. There is no centain age of when a child can understand the gospel. And there are mentaly challenged individuals, who will never be able to understand.

So thank God of the Bible for mercy and grace. We do not deserve to be saved, any of us.

I don’t think Paul meant to say unbelieving spouse is automatically saved by living together with believing one.
Read verse 16:
1Co 7:16 For what do you know, wife, whether you will save the husband? Or what do you know, husband, whether you will save the wife?

That to me says, the kind of sanctification in verses 13-14 doesn’t guarantee the saving.
Also, based on these verses, to assume that children should be baptized at early age, is quite a stretch.
Anyway, Jesus wasn’t baptized as a child too?

Salvation and sanctification is not the same. And 1.cor 7 is a part of Pauls teachings that can easily bee misunderstood and misused. It can be read by those who proclaim salvation of non-belivers, who live together with believers. In present, that would be a short circuit. What Paul is saying that at non-believer who wants to live with a believer, is more likely to come to faith, than if he or her leaves the beliving spouse. Likewise, Paul think about their children.

The Baptist church avcnowledge that men can not decide when people are saved. Infant baptism as a part of a salvation ritual, is a religious hoax.

Going to “stick with my understanding”, is not going to take me anywere. I have a lot to learn. I have to be open minded.

The basic error of Christianity today, is babylonian confusion related to doctrines. To mix up salvation with sanctification, is quit normal. But it leads us in to all kinds of heretic stuff.

1. Salvation is fund in Jesus, alone. By His finished work on the cross, alone.
2. Sanctification, is the process of Holiness. Were we open up new areas of our life, to the Messiah. And walk with Him.

Many people are saved, and remain spiritual babies. They listen to teachers, whom them selves are spiritual babies. Claimed to be leaders, who are not able to take any Christian on the path to maturity. We are suppose to grow. Not in more knowledge about salvation, but in our own holy walk with the Lord.

Salvation is basically such a simple message, that illiterate and knowledge-less human beings can be saved in an instant. The process of santification, differs from person to person. My walk with Jesus, is most likely quite different from yours.

I dedicated my children when they entered this world, then when able to understand the WORD were baptized as a family. the Jews do this at age 12 or so after they learn what they need to know’ as far as the catholic cult, I do not listen to any man especially the Pope..to say that one has to have membership with them to have real salvation or to tell me or anyone to pray to anyone but to G-d thru Yeshua is not going to happen in our home.. the more I read in daily news etc the things he says is so blasphemy it turns my stomach.. I just pray more leave it and many have..

It is the normal practise among Baptists, Pentecostals and Messianic Jews, to dedicate our children to the Lord. As Miriam did, the mother of Yeshua the Messiah. Since the Messiah told us to go and make dicsiples of all nations, baptize them and TEACH them….I wonder what kind of learners infants can be.

Yes, very small children can be indotrcinated into the will of religious men. But our youth’s can have en encounder with the Lord. God of the Bible can give them a born again experience. Than, a person is ready for baptism.

We see it differently because you don’t consider the resurrection. Salvation, saved and sanctified are pointing at the same thing from three directions. If you are saved it’s like painting the blood of the lamb on your doorpost of your house. Salvation is when God doesn’t destroy you with the rest of the world, then you are truly saved. You were saved because your house was sanctified by the blood of the lamb.

I was taught from a young age that to be baptized as a infant was to wash you of the act of original sin and to protect the soul in a sense to say you are promised to GOD.Communion is at the age of reasoning again to affirm your relationship with Jesus /God.conformation is the final step at a mature age to commit your entire self to God{not the church] but many if not all dont strickly follow this.As yet i have not baptized my son,if my mum was alive she would be saying i have left his soul open and that i havent cleansed or committed him to God,she would be calling me a heathen and a sinner,At time’s i feel i have done the wrong thing it’s not about being catholic its about his soul and protecting it. My hubby is Jewish raised COE, i am Rom raised catholic who’s religion should he follow,we dont practice any of them ,

It depends on what you mean by that. Jesus on the cross is the blood of the lamb. I affirmed that salvation is obtained by the blood of the lamb. By a promise made to mankind. If your core doctrine of salvation denies the resurrection of the dead on the last day, then yes I do reject that doctrine.

John 6:44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day.

1 cor 15:14 But if there is no resurrection of the dead, not even Christ has been raised; and if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is vain, your faith also is vain. Moreover we are even found to be false witnesses of God, because we testified against God that He raised Christ, whom He did not raise, if in fact the dead are not raised.…(to make a long story short)
1 cor 15:19 If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied.

Let me point this out since I noticed it. Jesus is the blood of the lamb, which the blood of the lamb painted on the Isrealites doorposts symbolized. It kept them from being destroyed. One doorpost covered everyone in the house. So why shouldn’t the faith of one mother or father, husband or wife, cover their entire household, just like scripture says it does. At least until the child leaves his parents house, then perhaps needs to show faith to cover his or her own household.

@ Edward
you said: “Jesus is the blood of the lamb”
No, Jesus wasn’t blood of lamb, but lamb itself. Blood of lamb – His life, represented His price / sacrifice.
You said:
“So why shouldn’t the faith of one mother or father, husband or wife, cover their entire household” ?
Well, even though they were saved that night in Egypt, many of them died in the desert later anyway. Their believing parents could do only so much, mark their doorposts with their faith.

“To whom would you liken Me,
And make Me equal and compare Me,
That we should be alike? Isaiah 46 : 5
Topic here is a blonde blue-eye idolatry-baby signifying on whims and fancies of today’s high priest’s plus next to this doll; a money-box is prominently displayed.
Where sanctification & salvation is involved ?
Wish everyone A BRIGHT & A SPIRITUALLY PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR.

Those are talking about a second death. Because we all die once, then the resurrection. Then it comes into question whether you get “salvation” from death or face a second and permanent death.

Heb 9:28 so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.

See there, salvation is when Christ comes a second time also known as the judgement day. Resurrection of both the righteous and wicked. If you are judged and found guilty then you face the second death for your sins, but if you believe in Christ you will not be judged and found guilty for your sins, because Christ has already paid for them. And so you will have eternal life, not facing the second death.

Rev 20:14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

For many Catholics, the Bible is a book full of contradictions. Who can understand it? They rely on their priests, who have been study theology for seven years, and being told to present the dogmas of the Pope as truth.

When John 5:24, says I SHALL NOT BE JUDGED, I belive it. It is plain knowledge, easy to understand, but surley a message that can be twisted.

Hebrew 9:28 talk about people WAITING for Him, at the end of the age. I might not be here. Nevertheless, there will be a small remnant of Christians facing His second comming. They will be rescued, also translated in English as “saved” by Him.

Be aware of the errors of semantics: This verse must not be read, as only THOSE people will be saved.

People who do not belive in Him, do not wait for Him. There are billions of Christians, who have died once, and will never experience His second comming to Earth. But they had to die once, to see the separation of body and soul. But they are not dead!. They are alive, and home in the Kingdom of Heaven. Jesus rose them up on their last day, waiting in Sheol, the grave, in Hebrew “the tomb of silence”.

The Catholic church is called among other things ‘the mother of harlots’.

Ivar does a fantastic job of identifying the mother, but, we must not forget she is a mother and the harlots exist.

The moment you raise the question of what happens when a person dies, this is when the mothers doctrine appears through those who have been raised in communion with the harlots.

The Bible does teach that the dead lie in the graves and cannot hear and are unaware of what is happening among the living, they await the resurrection.

Interestingly Luther taught this too. But most protestant denominations teach eternal life in heaven upon death or eternal life in hell.

The Bible teaches of the day of judgement, the last day when all will be judged.

Go back to what Jesus taught in the parable of the Tares among Wheat.

It teaches that Jesus sowed the truth into the world and then the enemy came along and sowed tares.

The tares cannot be removed until the harvest where they will be removed first leaving just the wheat which is the truth.

We live in the world now, tares (lies) and wheat (truth) are growing side by side, we live in this world and have been influenced by both and it is revealed in the way we think.

Then turn to the parable of the sower.

We are all individuals, the parable speaks of soil of a variety of types, the ability of the soil to aid the germination and maturity of the seeds being planted affect the outcome of a persons spiritual growth and level of understanding.

The truth is and has always been there but since the Lord Jesus ascended to heaven lies were sown and mixed in, Paul writes often that strangers were bringing in strange doctrines to the churches he planted.

The discussion will go round and round because there is what the Bible says and what the churches teach.

Now, if the Pope heads the mother of harlots, who are the harlots, they are churches too in their own right, some of their traditions they will have taken from their mother and some will be of their own making.

The harlots are gradually returning home to their mother, the mother is gladly accepting them and their traditions forming slowly a one world Catholic (universal) church, a one size fits all religious system, accepting Muslims and offering salvation to Jews without having to acknowledge Jesus Christ.

13 “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.
14 “For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.

WOW you people use the term harlot and whore a lot,and i was not taught that i would go straight to heaven i was made aware that i would basically lay in wait[death ] until the final judgement ,catholics don’t get a free pass or special treatment we face the same entry fee as all do

John 6:39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day.

See it says “At the last day” , not at your last day.

John 11:23 Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.” 24Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the last day.” 25Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live even if he dies,…

John 6:54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.

John 6:40 For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”

Do not reject, that Jesus is the ressurection and life. He raised Larazus from the tomb. He can rise you too!

The LAST day of the thief on the cross, whas the day Jesus took Him to Paradis. Together. No need for soul sleep.
The LAST day for Elijah, was the day the proheth was raptured. No need for soul sleep.
The LAST day for Moses, has already occured. If not, why did he face Jesus during the transfiguration?
The LAST day for Abraham, was the day he died. Afterwards, He was used by Jesus to minister to the rich man. (Luke 16:31 onwards).

The idea of “soul sleep” has become an SDA doctrine. It contradict Paul, who said: Philippians 1:23
“I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far”. Paul did not desire to sleep beside the Messiah. They are not sleeping.

The transfiguration was a glimpse into the future, which could have been a day long after The Last day. The rich man was dead and in hell when Abraham ministered to the rich man.

Pauls arguement to the Philippians was Paul debating whether it was better that he himself should be crucified or continue living to preach. To be with Christ meaning literally crucified as Christ was, for Jesus’ sake, and gaining a greater reward when he gets to heaven.

Jesus talking to the thief was figurative, the same way salvation is used figuratively. Because today I have believed in Christ I am saved, but won’t realize that salvation until the day of resurrection and judgement. So to the thief he meant Today he had secured his place in heaven.

Those were pretty good examples though, lets just call it even. I’m sticking with my understanding and you’ll probably stick with yours.

The transfiguration was a glimpse into the future, which could have been a day long after The Last day. The rich man was dead and in hell when Abraham ministered to the rich man..

My reply:

You prove my point. To actually believe in the Word of God, you need to surrender to truth. The Word of God is infallible. The transfiguration do not fit into SDA doctrines. This event has to be denied, or made into some kind of a fairytale kind of event.

And Jesus didn’t go to heaven the day he told the thief “Today you will be with me in heaven”.

My reply:

Again you reject truth. And your “Jesus” becomes some kind of delousional figure, who do not know what he is taking about. TODAY means excately TODAY. Jesus entered the holiest of holy in Heaven with His own blood, achiving for us eternal atonement for sins. He did this before the resurrection. And with Him, he brought the thief on the cross. Just as it is written.

Scriptures say on that day Jesus descended into hell not heaven. “Today” was used by an infallible prophet, God the author of truth, the one who could make it so. So “Today you will be with me in heaven” was a promise to the thief.

It should also be mentioned that only 1 thief out of 2 was returned to paradise after they died. Many have argued the invalidity of repentance on the thief’s part since God is love according to the false doctrines in this world, and would not send either into damnation.

The repentance of the thief on the cross was sufficient. Jesus had the power and authority to forgive him and save Him. SAVED means granted Eternal life. Made alive, no longer among the waking deads. All kind of baloney stories have been invented, in a bid to reject this biblical fact.

There is nothing in Matt 12:40 about “hell”. Neither in Acts 2:24. The heart of the Earth, is surely not the eternal fire of Hell. The center of the Earth, is not where the judged souls shall spend eternity. Jesus spend three nights and days in Sheol. And Sheol is a totally different place than Ghenna (Hell).

It is mind blowing that some Christians can claim God the Father sent Jesus to Hell. Remember Jesus is God. Hell is a god forsaken place, without any exits, where Satan and his falen angels shall spend eternity.

12 He went once for all into the Holy Place [the Holy of Holies of heaven, into the presence of God], and not through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood, having obtained and secured eternal redemption [that is, the salvation of all who personally believe in Him as Savior].

New King James:
12 Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption.

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Having obtained, means: The Messiah had already gained his victory on the cross, and shed His blood. Like the law demands, the High Priest had to bring the blood into the holiest of holy, in the precense of God the Father. Jesus DID IT….

Pdvor
You said “Well, even though they were saved that night in Egypt, many of them died in the desert later anyway. Their believing parents could do only so much, mark their doorposts with their faith.”

Sure when they’re old enough to walk on their own they face their own perils. Even Paul worried about doing wrong on his journey. Particularly not to be a hypocrite.

I agree Alistair. I think at least part of the problem is all the protestant ministers go to school to become ministers. So who runs the school? Who determines the curriculum. No doubt some Catholic or Jesuit pretending to be protestant, judging by the fruits.

shalom, undoubtedly paul was seen to be a hypocrite since he was a lawyer in his own right in the tribe of Benjamin,having studied with Gamaliel who, incidentally, was in the courtroom with him as paul was on trial for being a hypocrite to the pharisees for believing in Jesus ( by faith) and His resurrection. As far as Protestant ministers go, read the daily accounts of martyrs slaughtered soon after they werefound to confess the name of Jesus by their mouth; having no bible as it is illegal. So quickly we dispute the blood that cries from the ground; God saw the blood of righteous Abel and was attributed to righteousness. Surely we have not suffered unto blood for our own sins.

This makes my skin crawl. Someone the world hails as ‘christian’ has told those who have heard him to kiss a doll. Reminds me of Revelation and the statue people are caused to worship. Ugh 😦 (Shivers)…

Baby Jesus, instead of the 33 year old man (who was God) that Saved Us on the Cross, with his Precious Blood! In the Vatican, there is Paintings of a Baby Christ covered in jewels and pearls….could this portrayal be of Tammuz? All ancient Religions have the “Mother and Child Cult!” I do honor, the Virgin Birth of Christ, but more I worship His Free Gift to all, that accept His Grace!
Amen Hallelujah

Idolatry at its WORST!
This IS Worshipping a Graven Image!
The Infallible Pontiff decrees in Faith & Morals, we can Venerate ( a sly word for Worship) an Image of God!
We cannot Contain God, and make Him an Idol.!!! This Breaking Gods Law ( A Most Serious Offense!)