See, that's what I was afraid of. Making up a bunch of new characters and not paying tribute to the thousands upon thousands of existing characters they already have, famour or no.

Those comments from Joss definitely just lowered my expectations by a huge chunk. I'm now expecting a garden variety crime/spy drama that doesn't even seem to take place in a super-powered world, with no-name characters nobody has heard of.

Don't know what Marvel and Joss were thinking, but sounds like they missed the mark by a long shot.

See, that's what I was afraid of. Making up a bunch of new characters and not paying tribute to the thousands upon thousands of existing characters they already have, famour or no.

Those comments from Joss definitely just lowered my expectations by a huge chunk. I'm now expecting a garden variety crime/spy drama that doesn't even seem to take place in a super-powered world, with no-name characters nobody has heard of.

Don't know what Marvel and Joss were thinking, but sounds like they missed the mark by a long shot.

A TV show will not work if the only thing you're relying on is classic Marvel characters fot hell of it. That's not how it works. Joss knows what he is doing. Obviously they will pay tribute to the Marvel universe, he said it right there in the interview, but what he is not going to do is make the entire show about existing Marvel stories and characters because it doesn't make for good TV nor is it needed for the show to be a critical success.

And also in the interview, he specifically said that it would NOT be your regular crime show. Read your context clues.

It's pretty straightforward for me: if you like Coulson, you'll like SHIELD, as it's Coulson's show. Coulson has no powers, he is a completely original character who deals with superpowered shenanigans, including artifacts and potential superheroes, without actually being a superhero, or even a sidekick, and not directly confronting people who are trying to take over the world... well... except that one time, and that... didn't end well. The fact that he is backed up by a team of original characters only testifies we'll be getting more of the same from Coulson as opposed to a superhero-ized Coulson.

I think part of the premise of dealing with a world of superheroes is the fallout, y'know? All these weapons from the alien ship. People trapped in rubble from Hulk's rampages, or some crazy dude's experiments with stored Cosmic Cube energy. If you treat the MCU films like, I dunno, a previous Star Trek series, there's at *least* season's worth of stuff to build off of, and there'll be more as Phase II goes on. And there's enough coherence there to build things into that Universe that aren't really the films either people experimenting with Darkforce or a Inhumans plotline... all sorts of cool stuff.

I do think they'll deal with some of the fallout from the films in certain episodes (maybe even the pilot) but I do not believe that it will be the focal point of the series. I see them handling their own stuff for the most part with maybe 2-3 episodes of movie fallout per season. That said, it would be pretty cool if we got a clean up crew episode like from the comics.

^You mean Damage Control? Yeah, it'd be cool to see them begin in this series. In fact many facets of the Marvel U can begin to be explored in this series. They can expand on Hydra and AIM(since they've already been introduced in the films) as well as stuff like Roxxon Oil and the Maggia and maybe even the Power Broker. This series is the perfect place to set all these up in the audience's consciousness so they can possibly transition to being plot points in the films with more ease due to a bit more familiarity they would otherwise have if they just came straight from the comics.

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Well stuff like Roxxon Oil is likely to go over the audiences' heads. They won't necessarily know it's an actual Marvel reference. It could just sound like any other name to them that could appear in any other show. They could easily show up in a show like Dallas.

I just hope that Whedon does use references like these though and not inventing brand new ones for the sake of it.

Accutech is another Marvel organisation which I believe appears usually in Iron Man.

And I hope for fictional places like the island of Boca Caliente in the Caribbean, where AIM had a secret base.

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Everybody keeps talking about "Joss this and Joss that," and In Joss We Trust and all that, but people need to remember that this is not Joss' series. He is directing the pilot, but if it gets picked up, the show will be run by JED Whedon, Jeffrey Bell, and Mo Tancharoen.

See, that's what I was afraid of. Making up a bunch of new characters and not paying tribute to the thousands upon thousands of existing characters they already have, famour or no.

Those comments from Joss definitely just lowered my expectations by a huge chunk. I'm now expecting a garden variety crime/spy drama that doesn't even seem to take place in a super-powered world, with no-name characters nobody has heard of.

Don't know what Marvel and Joss were thinking, but sounds like they missed the mark by a long shot.

Haven't even seen one bit of footage yet, and already complaining and judging. Unreal.

Everybody keeps talking about "Joss this and Joss that," and In Joss We Trust and all that, but people need to remember that this is not Joss' series. He is directing the pilot, but if it gets picked up, the show will be run by JED Whedon, Jeffrey Bell, and Mo Tancharoen.

This IS Joss' show. Everyone has said as much. Even though Jed and Maurissa will technically be running it for the first 2-3 seasons Joss will still be heavily involved as a writer and producer (the ABC pres said Joss has already started working on scripts for future episodes). So yes, for all intents and purposes it's his baby and will remain as such.

Haven't even seen one bit of footage yet, and already complaining and judging. Unreal.

Then explain exactly what is "Marvel" about this "Marvel" show then, Einstein. With each new interview, Joss makes it clearer that he has no real intention of using characters from the MCU other than Coulson, nor characters from the comic books. It's a "SHIELD" show about SHIELD agents who've never been in the comics or movies, based around superheroes and/or villains who've never been in the comics or movies. So tell me again: what part of that is "Marvel?"

He has not made that clear at all. What he has made clear is that he wants to make a show that can stand on its own while honoring the source material. Stop taking his statements and twisting them to fit your pessimistic view.