Schaap continued that their relationship was sanctioned by God and he referred to their "fantasy talk" during a counseling session. "You have affectionately spoken of being 'my wife.' That is exactly what Christ desires for us. He wants to marry us + become eternal lovers! Or at least until you get old or fat! BTW do you have a younger sister? Just asking lol JK :) But do you??"

Okay, I'm not trying to defend a jackass that would take advantage of someone he is treating for emotional issues, or is otherwise in a position if authority over. He was very, very wrong to do this, and deserves to be punished.

ox45tallboy:Okay, I'm not trying to defend a jackass that would take advantage of someone he is treating for emotional issues, or is otherwise in a position if authority over. He was very, very wrong to do this, and deserves to be punished.

But if I'm not mistaken, the age of consent in Indiana is 16.

It's very illegal to transport a minor over state lines or out of the country for sex.

ox45tallboy:Okay, I'm not trying to defend a jackass that would take advantage of someone he is treating for emotional issues, or is otherwise in a position if authority over. He was very, very wrong to do this, and deserves to be punished.

But if I'm not mistaken, the age of consent in Indiana is 16.

I don't know about Indiana, but age of consent, especially for minors, doesn't usually apply to people in positions of authority, does it? For example, I highly doubt it's not against the law for a teacher in Indiana to sleep with a 16 year old student (or even a 18 year old student). Right? Wouldn't the same kind of thing apply to a pastor and his/her congregation? It's not the age thing, necessarily, so much as it is the abuse of the position of authority.

If it's not explicitly against the law, it's at the very least extremely unethical.(which is something we both seem to agree upon)

It kinda is, for the purposes of prosecution. There are special laws in regards to people in positions of authority when it comes to those who are considered still under the legal age, but at or above the age of consent. Tennessee, for example, has an age of consent of 16, but a within-two-years clause attached to it. It's legal for an 18 year old and a 16 year old to fark, but a 19 year old can be charged with statutory rape for it.

It kinda is, for the purposes of prosecution. There are special laws in regards to people in positions of authority when it comes to those who are considered still under the legal age, but at or above the age of consent. Tennessee, for example, has an age of consent of 16, but a within-two-years clause attached to it. It's legal for an 18 year old and a 16 year old to fark, but a 19 year old can be charged with statutory rape for it.

ignoring that he traveled out of stateshe can consent to having sex with himhe was not a boss

now ... if she were at church camp ... then he is acting in loco parentis and is probably screwed ...but doesnt matterthe feds got him on traveling with a minor over state lines for sex ... LOLshe should marry him and then he gets off scott freeHAHAH AHAHA HAHAHA

It kinda is, for the purposes of prosecution. There are special laws in regards to people in positions of authority when it comes to those who are considered still under the legal age, but at or above the age of consent. Tennessee, for example, has an age of consent of 16, but a within-two-years clause attached to it. It's legal for an 18 year old and a 16 year old to fark, but a 19 year old can be charged with statutory rape for it.

Indiana's is a blanket 16, with a two-year exemption for 14-and-15-year-olds.

ox45tallboy:Okay, I'm not trying to defend a jackass that would take advantage of someone he is treating for emotional issues, or is otherwise in a position if authority over. He was very, very wrong to do this, and deserves to be punished.

It kinda is, for the purposes of prosecution. There are special laws in regards to people in positions of authority when it comes to those who are considered still under the legal age, but at or above the age of consent. Tennessee, for example, has an age of consent of 16, but a within-two-years clause attached to it. It's legal for an 18 year old and a 16 year old to fark, but a 19 year old can be charged with statutory rape for it.

She can consent...but there could be issues with whether he is in an unusual position of authority relative to her. Some states, and some professions, have rules about whether a professional person can have intimate relations with someone who has come to him or her in their professional capacity, i.e. whether a doctor can have sex with a patient or a lawyer can have sex with a client. The theory is that someone in that position is in a unique situation and having sex with one's client is an abuse of trust and potentially borders on coercion or misuse of authority.

It's iffy enough when you're talking about two fully mature adults, but when it's a teenager and her pastor--I don't know. I mean, LEGALLY she could consent, but it's perilously close to abuse of authority. It would depend in large part on her level of maturity, and how upset her parents are about the whole issue.

I"m far from current on my grasp of technology, but it seems to me if you are trying to have a secret relationship, you might want to try to limit your use of electronic devices. For example, stop using email. texting, sexting, and the like.

Fool was probably trying to show how cool and hip he was. Enjoy the consequences of your actions in Fed PMITA prison, preacher.

ox45tallboy:REO-Weedwagon: Here's an actual video of the Reverend Schaap demonstrating how he likes his shaft stroked. Safe for work.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr0UpQXYkGs

What the holy f*ck was that?

I grew up in a fundy church, but seriously, what the f*ck kind of point was he trying to make?

what all mega church pastors try and make... "give us more money"

I can't watch youtube from work, but i'm willing to bet that if you replace a lot of euphemisms in that sermon, it'll translate to something something something charity something something something personal giving us more money will reserve your seat in heaven

L.D. Ablo:ox45tallboy: Okay, I'm not trying to defend a jackass that would take advantage of someone he is treating for emotional issues, or is otherwise in a position if authority over. He was very, very wrong to do this, and deserves to be punished.

But if I'm not mistaken, the age of consent in Indiana is 16.

It's very illegal to transport a minor over state lines or out of the country for sex.