That's why we need a GM so we don't get ripped off by stat boys in a trade.

kjavis

12/12/2013 - 09:20 PM PST

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I'm done listening to this game

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12/12/2013 - 09:20 PM PST

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wow i wish we could amnesty dudley

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12/12/2013 - 09:20 PM PST

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I don't think Caron is even playing. Problem is that if the team retained Bledsoe and still played him off the bench and didn't start him like some of the "stat heads" would have liked, then he isn't nearly as useful.

Of course Caron isn't even playing right now and has sucked as much as Dudley. Grass isn't always Greener.

We should just be impulsive and trade all the wings except Redick

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12/12/2013 - 09:20 PM PST

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What gave people the impression Jared Dudley was good at basketball?

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12/12/2013 - 09:21 PM PST

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Why does Blake Griffin even dress sometimes. Just put on a suit and sit next to Doc. Just useless. No passion at all

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12/12/2013 - 09:21 PM PST

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Can Dudley really be this bad? I have to believe he's injured.

ClippersDA

12/12/2013 - 09:21 PM PST

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As he should but he put this garbage team together with pieces that don't click and lack talent.

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12/12/2013 - 09:22 PM PST

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I'm going to assume it was him actually being good at basketball for a couple of years before he decided to tank life

Icecoldclipper

12/12/2013 - 09:22 PM PST

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Think Doc is going to throw in the white flag. Maybe he should start having his guys step in instead of taking open threes. This team does not adjust on offense and its going to kill us in the post season.

A_DOG_NAMED_BUD

12/12/2013 - 09:22 PM PST

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Dammit, look at Jason Kidd. Talking in an interview and acting like he knows what he's doing haha.

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12/12/2013 - 09:23 PM PST

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I find it hard to believe that nobody is intimidated by dj.

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12/12/2013 - 09:23 PM PST

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Can someone tell Dudley he sucks at the game of basketball? Like he really is terrible. I want him to know that.

renshaibob

12/12/2013 - 09:23 PM PST

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and old or slow soft players, JJ was a good pick up though.

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12/12/2013 - 09:23 PM PST

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Expiring contract and a coveted player like Bledsoe. And the best we could come up with was Redick and Dudley. The stat boys dream trade.

2 months into reality- not even stats can save the clippers

ClippersDA

12/12/2013 - 09:24 PM PST

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And what the hell is going on with crawfords fee throws!!? Oh my god.

renshaibob

12/12/2013 - 09:24 PM PST

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DJ should have gave Blatche a hard foul, don't let players clown you like that. That Is our softness

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12/12/2013 - 09:25 PM PST

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Doc Rivers very intense talking to the team right now- not a happy guy.

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12/12/2013 - 09:26 PM PST

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Clippersfan86 wrote:

Am I still overreacting? Another far inferior team slaughtering us with a 26 point swing. The attitude and mental fortitude of this team is unbearable. This team is so unlikable and diva ridden compared to pretty much any team in franchise history. Enough talent to win 65 and the title but play like a low playoff seed. It's entirely the mental game, which is what is so frustrating.

Yep. Attitude and mental toughness takes time to develop. It's foolishness to say how good most teams will be just 20 games into a season. You honestly didn't believe everything would click instantly, did you?

Funny that you said the same thing when we were down to the Celtics, and yet you didn't reply after the Clippers pulled it out.

I'm not saying this team will be a championship contender (or even get to the conference finals), but to say this is a first round exit team just 22 games into the season is laughable.

On that note, I believe you're selling things short by saying it's just mental. I've seen DJ bite on too many pump fakes tonight, not to mention bad defense in general from everyone else.

ClippersDA wrote:

Yep you nailed it! Super unlikeable group, although I am less impressed with talent than you are even on paper. I thought the front office made some big blunders from the get go, like not getting a decent back up (and splitting the mle). Dudley always seemed like Ana berate back up. Only Redick panned out.

You probably thought this was going to be a championship team just like the rest of us, and you're only now turning pessimistic.

Anyway, team is most certainly sucking it up right now.

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12/12/2013 - 09:26 PM PST

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To be fair we stopped going to Blake and settled for jumpers Doc did nothing.

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12/12/2013 - 09:26 PM PST

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We don't even have any gritty-physical-defensive guys on the team. I still can't believe we let K-Mart and Reggie Evans walk away.

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12/12/2013 - 09:26 PM PST

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Could doc be overrated? He seems like a nice guy, and I am. It saying he is. I am just wondering

renshaibob

12/12/2013 - 09:26 PM PST

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he should have got in his startes asses, don't wait till the bench guys get in to start yelling.

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12/12/2013 - 09:26 PM PST

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and to think I decided to go with a clippers game over an episode of Duck Dynasty. Guess I made the wrong choice.

renshaibob

12/12/2013 - 09:27 PM PST

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not a 1 post player we have

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12/12/2013 - 09:28 PM PST

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Well they actually could if Dudley was shooting 40% 3PT and Redick was playing

No, no, this was Doc Rivers dream trade, and I don't remember him being a stat boy

A_DOG_NAMED_BUD

12/12/2013 - 09:29 PM PST

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Nope. Not even close.

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12/12/2013 - 09:29 PM PST

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you should use games like this to let players like DJ work on his post game. Atleast get some use out of the blowout

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12/12/2013 - 09:31 PM PST

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That would also be the official white flag haha. But I see your point. Maybe he can knock down a couple of hooks if he's lucky.

Icecoldclipper

12/12/2013 - 09:32 PM PST

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Doc needs more plays freeing Griffin up near the basket for quick looks or passes. With the bad shooting we need to stop kicking out on drives and take the shots at the rim however contested. I swear Doc better not call anyone out after this crap he made.

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12/12/2013 - 09:32 PM PST

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I was never in favor of signing barnes, I wanted them to use the whole mle to sign Landry or someone like him (yes I know he is injured now but still). I didn't think collison would be this bad, but we didn't need an amazing backup point guard. We needed more production in the front court. Barnes is old and has never been consistent.

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12/12/2013 - 09:32 PM PST

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Dudley's entire career is built on ifs and don't get me started on Redick defense. Though he looked to be the better of the two

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12/12/2013 - 09:34 PM PST

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Well he could be overrated as a GM, cause he did think he could make Mullens not suck, but the losses are more about injuries, the team not being able to withstand them well enough due to some of the backups than a failure in coaching.

...but I remember saying asking when Doc signed how soon it would be before his head would be called for, especially with any sort of slow start, and I guess we've found out

Game sucks, but 15-9 isn't going to be the worst thing in the world either.

Icecoldclipper

12/12/2013 - 09:34 PM PST

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Paul like F this I'm going to keep playing. Where is Blake?

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12/12/2013 - 09:35 PM PST

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Nope! As I've stated the past 2 years, we chose to recruit offensive pretty boys player instead of prioritizing on defense.

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12/12/2013 - 09:36 PM PST

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I can't wait for the post game analysis. I can only hope sacks finds someone to take Dudley off our hands. He can be traded imminently I think.

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12/12/2013 - 09:36 PM PST

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Paul is looking good offensively. One of the few bright spots of tonight.

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12/12/2013 - 09:36 PM PST

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We agree on one thing. We need a GM. I've bee calling for one for 2 years

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12/12/2013 - 09:36 PM PST

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Redick's defense has been good outside of when he's left on an island against smaller guys.

Dudley's entire career has been built on if? That makes absolutely no sense. Dudley wasn't gotten for potential, he was gotten for what he had produced for multple seasons, there was no hypothesis there, it was reality, not sure what you are saying, lol. No one was saying "if Dudley does this", it was "Dudley has done this, he just needs to keep doing it".

Bledsoe was traded for based on hypothesis on what he could do. I wish Dudley has some more if's in his game in terms of potential.

Icecoldclipper

12/12/2013 - 09:37 PM PST

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Its a back to back but you might as well burn the starters. Just hope we find some hot shooting. Hopefully the blowout to Jason Kidd wakes Doc up to ban the long ball shooting.

Phu7

12/12/2013 - 09:37 PM PST

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He could be but i doubt it. Our coaching staff is top notch. I would look at the players being overrated.

ClippersDA

12/12/2013 - 09:40 PM PST

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Jason Kidd just seems like a bad person, I do not wish him well.

jarca

12/12/2013 - 09:40 PM PST

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As in if he only got athleticism lol

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12/12/2013 - 09:41 PM PST

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This offense relies heavily on shooters making open shots. When they don't, and they don't make up for it with gritty defense, this is what happens.

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12/12/2013 - 09:41 PM PST

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Nope, we also agree on defense. I've cried for defense because that has what has primarily lost in the playoffs two seasons in a row. 11-12, Spurs were just better though, so even defense wasn't going to save the team. That's why I didn't like Mullens and then Jamison too, and re-signing Hollins, and signing Collison (who wasn't bad, but just in terms of where else money could go).

Like I said, I think Doc overrated part of his ability to coach certain players into being better.

Stilll, 15-9 is not that bad, but blowout losses are always the catalyst to bring out all the frustrations.

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12/12/2013 - 09:41 PM PST

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Doc's defense could keep the other team to one point in a whole game, but 1-0 is still a loss.

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12/12/2013 - 09:42 PM PST

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I stand by my opinion that we should try and get Thaddeus Young. No, he's not a great 3 pt shooter, but he's young, athletic, tall, rebounds well for a SF, and plays solid defense from what I know. He would bring some toughness, which we're also lacking. It doesn't even have to be DJ who we trade, which is what I've been saying, but we need to at least try to get Young.

You can say that I'm hitting the panic button too early, but can you honestly say you're happy with they've been playing recently? I can't even use Redick and Barnes' injuries as excuses. No reason to get killed by the Nets. I think this team would be lucky to get out of the 1st round the way its been playing and it kills me to say that. You all can hate me if you want, but that's my opinion.