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Today is the day to see if they can do the impossible in one episode. If they fail than we can at least hope for an OVA that might cut all the bloat and put in much needed fixes. Though I fear they would turn Zessica into Reika if they did an OVA.

I probably won't be able to watch this ep today (work :/ ), but seeing that there's nothing the finale can do to fix my overall issues with the show, I'd just like to leave this pre-finale evaluation here before the thread descends into madness. I'll of course revise it if needed, after I watch the ep.

Spoiler for under spoiler cut because it's LOOOOONG:

So, in the end, Evol has been an increasingly aggravating ride, but a fun one, nevertheless. It didn't exactly turn out to be what I signed up for, unfortunately not in a good way, but there was still plenty of stuff to enjoy about it, even though the show's issues made the taste turn increasingly sour. As for said issues... I think all of them can traced back to one source: the writing in this show is among the worst I've ever seen. I can't believe anyone *cough*Okada*cough* got paid for this. (Oh, the individual episodes are mostly fine on their own - it's the whole picture that suffers.) I don't know if it was because they wanted to do something unique and unconventional and botched it, or simply because the head writer was incapable of handling a cast this large, but it's not like something suddenly "went wrong" somewhere, the problems were present as early as the first cour, they just got worse with time.

I'm a very character-centric viewer, so for me the biggest disappointment of the show were AMZK, who were handled in an incredibly shitty way. All four of them are characters who had good potential that got horribly wasted, all of them got shafted one way or another, and while I'm sure most people will think of Zessica at this point, for me the biggest victims here are Amata and Mikono. Amata is the textbook example of What Not To Do With Your Protagonist, and Mikono of How Not To Handle Your Heroine. Sure, destroying Zessica and devolving her into a pile of mess with her entire personality revolving exclusively about her ~love~ for some guy was horrible, and the blatant, in-your-face way they went about making her the woobie of the show for some reason didn't help at all. Kagura was ridiculously underutilized, at this point he's just a walking plot device. Still, Zessica at least received attention and push, and Kagura has enough quirks that he can still get by. Amata and Mikono, however, got very much out of focus in the second cour, which hurt all the more since they're both character types that need to be worked on, and after all the stuff that happened some insight into their thought processes or focus on them and/or their relationship would've been very important. Even individually they got the short end of the stick - they both had bursts of doing something of importance after which they sort of faded out of focus instead of staying there, and especially poor Amata got undermined almost every single time he was about to do anything. I'm very disappointed about this, because I still like these two very much, I still think they're cute and sweet, and for that matter I still prefer them to be together.

The secondary characters were just fine (Shrade, oh Shrade!), and I wouldn't have any problems with them if it wasn't partly because of giving them development that the actual main charas got shafted. I mean, I like Andy and Mix fine, but the last two episodes shouldn't waste time focusing on their issues when there's all the main plot/chara issues to sort out! Ehh.

Characters aside, the other big issue was basically the very artificial writing that turned all characters into plot devices in some way. Again, this is not something I would've expected from the names in the staff (at least not to this extent). Foregoing natural interaction and not letting the characters have certain conversations, ignoring certain things for a long time until bringing them up was convenient, giving something a big last-minute push just because they couldn't have been assed to start developing it earlier, all in order to make the plot work... really, really bad writing that hurt the characters and the story.

As for the plot, I never expected anything sensible so I would've been fine with anything as long as it was handled reasonably well, but-- well, the whole Apollo=dog retcon was one of the stupidest ideas I've ever seen. If it was really Okada who insisted on it she deserves a kick in the butt, and Kawamori and Yamamoto as well, for actually going along with it.

On the visual side I have few complaints, but... While I really like the different designs for guys and girls, it would've been nice if they had been uniformized a little. It's not very jarring, but it does make me go "weh" when we see guys and girls from the side and their profiles look like they're from different shows. Add to this ALL. THAT. REUSED. FOOTAGE. from Genesis, and you've got something that irritates me to no end. I was mostly okay with them reusing the Genesis soundtracks, but if you're going to reuse footage then at least get the same color palette and the same character designer you had for the previous show, for heaven's sake! I'm probably the only person who is bothered about this, but argh, so cheap, so amateurish!

Anyway, with all these complaints I still managed to enjoy the episodes, which was mostly due to the characters, and the whole thing being entertaining despite the huge flaws. And of course there's Mykage who became one of my favorite villains of all time. I latched onto him because he was pretty and reminded me of Touma (and I'm shallow), but he turned out to be very entertaining, not in the least because of the amount of fun Nakamura Yuuichi seems to be having with him. And while we're on the topic of seiyuu, a special mention goes to Fujiwara Keiji. I don't know if Fudou Zen would've worked so well with anyone else, but I'm very happy that they got Fujiwara for this role. (OK, I'm probably biased because he's one of my favorite seiyuu, but still.)

And I've had some good fun in this subforum, well, until the overall nature of the discussion took a turn into a direction that I don't find fun at all. I suppose it was inevitable, but still, I'm not happy about it. Oh well, remember the good times, etc.

I'm probably in the minority here, but I honestly hope MIXY doesn't magically get her Big Bangs back.

I think it would be more impressive/powerful if Andy had to actually stick to his guns, and keep loving the flat-chested futanari (because that's basically what MIXY is now, lol) beyond the initial excitement stage of simply getting to reunite with the person he fell in love with. Plus, I have to admit I'd find it funny if Andy goes the entire anime without ever getting to be with an actual girl.

I'm probably in the minority here, but I honestly hope MIXY doesn't magically get her Big Bangs back.

I think it would be more impressive/powerful if Andy had to actually stick to his guns, and keep loving the flat-chested futanari (because that's basically what MIXY is now, lol) beyond the initial excitement stage of simply getting to reunite with the person he fell in love with. Plus, I have to admit I'd find it funny if Andy goes the entire anime without ever getting to be with an actual girl.

A good ending would be Amata and Mikono not getting together. They have done nothing to deserve it, no reason they should be allowed to step on everyone's birthday cakes than having the chance to eat all their ice cream without sharing. Mykage killing them all and becoming a god of a newly recreated world would be a much better ending. Though sadly it'll most likely be the horrible Amata and Mikono end, so bad ending for EVOL it is than.

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Originally Posted by kuromitsu

Some of us actually like it. GASP, SHOCK, etc.

It was cute early on but it has been derailed by the writers for over 20 episodes. Them getting together suddenly and being allowed to be happy after all the stuff they pulled that has resulted in massive suffering from everyone else would be a bad ending.

I guess I'll exempt Mix though I'm not a fan of yaoi... Knowing she/he was a girl from the past and still at heart at present.... ok!!! But I still hope she'll get her bangs back....

Honestly, I think your bet is right.

They're probably going to reward Andy's patience and steadfast love of MIX(Y) by having her regain her big bangs.

I would just find the alternative more... daring. More bold. But either way, Andy/MIX(Y) has been handled very well, and Andy/MIX(Y)'s big moment last episode won't be tarnished even if MIX(Y) gets her big bangs back.

On Amata/Mikono - They either get their happy end, or Mikono sacrifices herself to bring the two worlds back together. That's my bet anyway. The only thing that would totally shock me is if Amata dies.

Even if Amata does get Mikono, there still Shushu to cockblock him, so..... XD
I'm a happy ending fan so naturally I want the main hero-heroine pair get together in the end (Amata and Mikono IS the main pair, right? Right? XD), as well as Andy and Mix(without the Y >,<).

But I do think the story is went downhill even though I still manage to enjoy it. I like the first half with academy life with MOTW format better, so I'm hoping there will be spin-off/side-story manga focusing on that part, kinda like Gurren Lagann high school spin-off

I'm prepared for the worst/best troll ending ever. Though I probably won't even want to watch it and yet I want to see it end. This series brought me lots of confusing feeling from hate to like which is totally not the norm for a series I watch from the start till the end.