i understand wat yer sayin, i just kinda wat to try it out because of the older style of tapering maby i run 10mg ang jump to 20mgs but some ppl ive talkd to said that they felt great and had a strong cycle i dont really want to get crasy bigg, just gain all strength and power.
yah i was thinkg a nice mild cycle not nuthing crazy

But seriously if you want to cycle steroids you may as well cycle and run 30mg or so. Your diet will determine how big you get... You can maintain your weight and just get stronger, & drop bodyfat, even on Dbol. I did the same thing with Phera even tho most people say it's too wet and it wouldn't work for that.

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Dbol is an instant gratification steroid...You will notice results very quickly (although not on the miniscule amounts you're talking about).....The downside is that it will all go away just as quickly as it came on....

My opinion is that dbol is simply not a useful, viable chemical for most people.

Dbol is an instant gratification steroid...You will notice results very quickly (although not on the miniscule amounts you're talking about).....The downside is that it will all go away just as quickly as it came on....

My opinion is that dbol is simply not a useful, viable chemical for most people.

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I always go out of my way to say this when people say that.

It is no different than superdrol, phera plex, etc. It increases protein synthesis and nitrogen retention. It is anabolic. Granted it will put on a ton of water weight but it does increase muscle mass. Proper diet and training followed by proper PCT you will have gains from Dbol.

I personally do not like Dbol at any dosage because of the sides but to say you gain nothing from it is inaccurate.

It is no different than superdrol, phera plex, etc. It increases protein synthesis and nitrogen retention. It is anabolic. Granted it will put on a ton of water weight but it does increase muscle mass. Proper diet and training followed by proper PCT you will have gains from Dbol.

I personally do not like Dbol at any dosage because of the sides but to say you gain nothing from it is inaccurate.

I think the point he was making was that you will blow up almost immediately and most of it will be water initially. Of course you can gain gain muscle with it but the amount of actual muscle you gain is far less than what you are generally going to weigh during the cycle. From my experience, if I run 40 mgs/day of dbol for 4 weeks and compare it to 40 mgs/day of superdrol for 4 weeks, it's superdrol by a mile as far as quality gains. I'm also going to keep more of what I gained off of superdrol. I never thought I would say that about an otc but that's the way it's panned out for me. Going further, I would run superdrol as a standalone but I would not waste my time with a dbol standalone. Dbol and test and tren, sure. And chances are if you can find dbol, you can find some form of test or other compounds to go with it so Iwhy run it as a standalone? That's just me.

thanks guys well my friend is hookin me up with 8 weeks of test and deca and if i buy dbol! man im really pulling things together to make this a phat run.
and im not on the fence bro just was tryin to find good gear, safty first.

test/deca for 10 weeks is fine, but run the dbol for 4 weeks, maybe even 5. Why do 2? If you do 2 weeks Dbol, week 3 is going to suck, you'll probably lose dbol gains as your test and deca won't be doing a whole lot at the start of week 3.

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test/deca for 10 weeks is fine, but run the dbol for 4 weeks, maybe even 5. Why do 2? If you do 2 weeks Dbol, week 3 is going to suck, you'll probably lose dbol gains as your test and deca won't be doing a whole lot at the start of week 3.

gotcha, my friend said basicly the same thing, it really hepls when i ask the right questions.

Are there any advantages of running lower mgs in the begining and ending up with a higher dose by the end of the week?

I just orderd mine for the last 4 weeks of my cycle with sus, and thinking about running an decent low dose consisting of .25 mgs a day for 4 weeks. Im not trying to get to much bloat, but some decent gains i head between 20-30, thats why I choose .25

whats the best way to dose dbol when using it as a kick start? for instance one is planning on taking 40mg a day, should that person divide the dosages in 2 (20mg each) or 3 (15-15-10mg) since the active life isnt that long?

Dbol is an instant gratification steroid...You will notice results very quickly (although not on the miniscule amounts you're talking about).....The downside is that it will all go away just as quickly as it came on....

My opinion is that dbol is simply not a useful, viable chemical for most people.