I think using PED's are a form of cheating, but you can't ignore that they do make things more interesting. I mean we are paying to see athletes go at it, so whats better than seeing those same athletes go at it twice as hard because of PED's. It made riding a bike cool when Lance Armstrong was juicing. Made MLB better when Bonds was using. The NBA could benefit from them as well. It's a shame seeing some of these scrubs try and keep up with studs like James and Wade. Let them take some PED's to make it more entertaining. I'd pay extra money to see Blake Griffin dunk when using steroids. Just keep them out of the NFL, we have enough issues right now.

I don't think Deuce's evidence is damning, but dude C'MON. Artest is NOT the same size as Lebron. Wade is NOT the same size as Lebron. And ANYONE can do a quick-eye test. The only one who comes close is Howard, and that man is probably the largest muscle-mass player in the NBA regardless of height or position.

Deuce is right though - the guy's mass is a lot different then when he first came into the league. And it's not that he got bigger in the place you expect from seven years of weight-training and professional exercising. The man's head IS noticeably bigger, the man's jaw IS bigger.

I'm not an expert on roiding, but I boxed Golden Gloves and roiding did go on. And yeah, heads did get bigger. I think Deuce has a point that if you compare Lebron's change to guys like Amare or Melo, the change is isn't even close.

I don't think Deuce's evidence is damning, but dude C'MON. Artest is NOT the same size as Lebron. Wade is NOT the same size as Lebron. And ANYONE can do a quick-eye test. The only one who comes close is Howard, and that man is probably the largest muscle-mass player in the NBA regardless of height or position.

Deuce is right though - the guy's mass is a lot different then when he first came into the league. And it's not that he got bigger in the place you expect from seven years of weight-training and professional exercising. The man's head IS noticeably bigger, the man's jaw IS bigger.

I'm not an expert on roiding, but I boxed Golden Gloves and roiding did go on. And yeah, heads did get bigger. I think Deuce has a point that if you compare Lebron's change to guys like Amare or Melo, the change is isn't even close.

Artest is like 260 of muscle mass.

Wade would weigh nearly the same as LeBron if he wasn't a lot shorter.

Saying D-Wade is close to the same size or Artest though? Artest looks out of shape and has very little muscle mass. D-Wade is fairly small.

Dwight Howard is the one to compare to... but Dwight Howard also looks like a juicer.

I'd actually come closer to believing Dwight's is legit though. He's a known workout warrior and health freak. Lebron however, has been known to be fairly lazy in the weight room... yet still "develops" like that? Unlikely.

Dwight also has less water-weight... he's more tone than most roiders- so his body doesn't really look like a juicers outside of mass.

With these guys playing a game that is basically constant cardio- it has to raise some eyebrows and the whole "he's a man now" argument doesn't work when you're running every night of the year.

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