I saw on television, Donald Trump is going to make the wall smaller; no, the wall’s identical. The other thing about the wall is we’ve spent a great deal of time with the Border Patrol and with the ICE agents and they know this stuff better than anybody, they’re unbelievable.

They both endorsed me, the only time they’ve ever endorsed a presidential candidate, OK? And they endorsed us unanimously. I had meetings with them, they need see-through. So, we need a form of fence or window. I said why you need that—makes so much sense? They said because we have to see who’s on the other side.

If you have a wall this thick and it’s solid concrete from ground to 32 feet high which is a high wall, much higher than people planned. You go 32 feet up and you don’t know who’s over here. You’re here, you’ve got the wall and there’s some other people here.

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WSJ: Well, the other day after your meeting when you talked about wanting to see a deal from Congress. In particular, I’m thinking of the tweets from Ann Coulter. You know, a straight—I mean, they want a wall. Do you feel that you have some room to negotiate here with your own base, when it comes to the wall?

Mr. Trump: I don’t have to because the wall is the same wall I’ve always talked about. I can understand why I have to have see-through.

WSJ: OK.

Mr. Trump: If I’m standing here, I want to be able to see 200 yards out. I want to be able to see, I don’t want to have a piece of concrete that I can’t see.

WSJ: Yes.

Mr. Trump: Now on the wall we have cameras and we have highly sophisticated equipment, but the wall—the Border Patrol tells me the other way’s more expensive. It’s not less expensive. We have to have vision through the wall.

WSJ: But…

Mr. Trump: This is going to be state of the art wall; this will be state of the art. But, I can fully understand why you’d have to have vision. I’d like to be able to see three or four hundred yards instead of we’re at a wall we have no idea who’s on the other side. Does this make sense or am I just wasting my time.

TFK posted a great and very insightful report about the linguistic and cognitive deterioration of Trump over the last 2 decades..
This interview shows an even more rapid decline.
His vocabulary is that of a child.

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TFK posted a great and very insightful report about the linguistic and cognitive deterioration of Trump over the last 2 decades..
This interview shows an even more rapid decline.
His vocabulary is that of a child.

Anybody who has tried to read transcripts of Trump's statements can't help but see they are a tossed word salad on a continuous level. The jumping all over the place with topics. Constantly repeating words and phrases. Ask him what he had for breakfast? You'll get how well his golf game is. Ask him if he liked lunch? He'll tell about the crowd size at his innauguration.

It's got to be mentally exhausting for those around him who have to try and decide if up meant up, or did up mean down at any given minute.

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Anybody who has tried to read transcripts of Trump's statements can't help but see they are a tossed word salad on a continuous level. The jumping all over the place with topics. Constantly repeating words and phrases. Ask him what he had for breakfast? You'll get how well his golf game is. Ask him if he liked lunch? He'll tell about the crowd size at his innauguration.

It's got to be mentally exhausting for those around him who have to try and decide if up meant up, or did up mean down at any given minute.

Well, we know that the landscape will dictate some variations on what can be built. So there may be fence in some places. There may be nothing in some other places. But there wil be some form of a wall in others.

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Originally Posted by wonderboy

Isn't that pretty much what's already in place? That big metal thing on the border looks and acts like a wall.....

I once lived a block from the metal fence in Tijuana. You can climb it or dig under it. It was constructed with surplus material by the Army Corps of Engineers, if I remember right. And quite a while ago. It's no deterrent at all.

__________________The truth is that if Israel would lay down their arms there would be no more Israel, and if the Arabs would lay down their arms there would be no more war.

Sure they are. They told Dotard to go get ****ed on, what was it?, day two of his presidency? Remember? They know what big business in the U.S. knows, in that breaking the supply chain that NAFTA provides means huge losses for us. It's beside the point though/this was beaten to death a year ago on another thread.

What's important here is how Dotard keeps claiming he has dozens of ways to get Mexico to cough up money for his wall, and when pressed to give an example, he always and only brings up NAFTA. What are the other eleven methods he has up his sleeve? He won't tell anybody... still, a full year into his presidency. Why do you suppose that is?

What? You think Trump is the only one telling lies? Mexico is corrupt from top to bottom. Every President since Benito Juarez has been accused of stealing, lying and killing their opponents. If you're going to believe Pena Nieto you might as well believe Trump.

__________________The truth is that if Israel would lay down their arms there would be no more Israel, and if the Arabs would lay down their arms there would be no more war.

What? You think Trump is the only one telling lies? Mexico is corrupt from top to bottom. Every President since Benito Juarez has been accused of stealing, lying and killing their opponents. If you're going to believe Pena Nieto you might as well believe Trump.

It's about believing what U.S. industry, especially U.S. automakers/suppliers have said about the benefits to U.S. based business which NAFTA provides. I said nothing about Nieto so I have no idea where you're coming from with that. You don't have to believe me; they've organized themselves with that message.

The point is, Trump keeps insisting he has a dozen means at his disposal to force Mexico to pay for a wall but when asked to elaborate, he always falls back to using an exit from NAFTA to leverage that threat. So since that's obviously not a move that business on this side of the border supports, and Mexico clearly knows that (they've reiterated the same sentiments), what else of those dozens of means does Trump have? He's just bluffing with NAFTA because it won't work.

Sure we will, it was spent locally, salaries, supplies, food, etc. All going into the San Diego economy.

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The city (San Diego) paid out $277,898 in overtime, services and supplies. It paid out another $548,446 in regular salaries and fringe benefits to officers scheduled to be on duty anyway and re-assigned to the border project. That brought the city’s total expenses to $826,345.

Adding the overtime, supplies and other non-salary costs for the two agencies together shows that the city and county spent $1,175,840 in security costs for the border wall project.

The city said it is unlikely it will be reimbursed for those costs, though it is exploring options. A spokeswoman for the county could not say whether the county would be reimbursed.

So around $2m between the city and county ****ed away for a half dozen monoliths to Dotard's ego and the forum's "fiscal conservatives" response is: