This occurred on another board (neg feedback also posted there), but I also tracked him down as being a member here.

He agreed to buy some 45 bumper pads I have FS. No payment since 12/18/05 (26 days ago), which was the original date of contact by him & payment was requested within 10 days. Doesn't reply to any Emails or IM's sent since the 28th, but has been online.

You can try to send him a link to this (maybe he'll answer one of you Mod guys), as I always like to hear the lame excuse for not sending payment for items he stated he wanted!

12-28-2005, 06:00 PM lpspinnerJunior Member

Join Date: 05-31-2002Location: U.S.A.Posts: 2

Re: PadsOh yes. My apologies. I'm currently in Chicago and will take care of it as soon I get home later in the week.

I've bought so much parts the past couple of weeks from various forums that I just forgot about this.

I'm sorry if I said I would purchase some pads from you and didn't get a chance to send out payment.

As some people here know, I work for the airlines in IT, so I could be home one minute and gone the next. I always have a bag packed. In the time mentioned, I've been home 4 or 6 days total. I have no control over whether I stay or go. Even though I'm still getting laid off February 15, doesn't mean I can stop doing my job.When I'm on the road, I don't always get to my personal email. Getting to the Post Office to buy a Money Order is difficult based on my hours. The worst thing was the Post Office stopping their Money Order purchases by the internet.

Yes I'm a little slow in paying sometimes, but only because I don't have a 9-5 like everyone else. I don't go home everynight like everyone else. I spend most of my off time in airplanes and hotels.

I always prefer to send a money order because I don't like using PayPal (anti-gun you know) unless I have to because of time.

For you to start chastising me on non-related board(s) is vindictive, malicious, despiteful and catty.

Gee, you forgot to mention my A+ rating on GunBroker, eBay and other places. What about the 6+ transactions I've just completed here in the last month. And the sales I just started?

btw, what was it like as a guy searching for another guy on dating sites? Did you get any ideas?

Yes you are right, after 15 years, I've retired as a DJ. By the way, Peopleconnection is a social group for people who don't know people when the move to a new area.

So I'm here in my office today. Send me your PayPal addy, I'll send you the twenty something bucks and just keep the pads. Consider it payment for your time and effort for your sadistic behavior in denouncing me.

You know, if I had the time, I could go around and replying to all the different boards and reply by stating how vindictive, catty, malicious, spiteful, evil (as evendent in you ), impatient and so forth and so fourth over twenty something bucks. Or I can just cut-n-paste this to each of the boards.

MODS: I didn't know I can add feedback for individuals from other boards? I could do that too. :D

I will no longer contribute to this. I've asked for his PayPal addy to settle this. If he doesn't, then all he's looking for is attention on the various boards.

It sure is nice to see people who screw up transactions come forward and say "I apologize. I screwed up. It was my fault. What should I do to make it right?"

Then you got the people who like to justify themselves with long winded explanations and excuses about how it really isn't their fault that they didn't live up to their commitments.

As far as I'm concerned, lpspinner earned his -1 with the quote below. Was that really called for? Was it really??? If it wasn't for that comment (plus all the self-justifying excuses), I'd have said this situation merited a 0 at most.

Originally Posted By lpspinner:btw, what was it like as a guy searching for another guy on dating sites? Did you get any ideas?

<font size=1>Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action.</font id=s1>

I felt it was called for, because what does payments have to do with dating. He's the one that said he search for me thinking I needed a date. (btw, I don't) He attacked me first with the dating comment. I'm not going to stand by and let that go unanswered.

Anyone that's bought anything from me, has always received their package in a timely manner.

A real man doesn't air his dirty laundry all over the internet. (go ahead and give me another -1 for that). I would've had more respect had he kept it with the originating board and kept to the point. I have never broadcast over the internet any dealings that I have that gone sour. It was between me and the other person.

If that's the case, then AR15.com just set a precedence allowing me or anyone else to start posting feedback for members that didn't conduct any transaction on AR15.com

How many people here can get to their emails on holidays and weekends. I certainly as a rule can't.

As for apology.... I did apologize, told him I would get payment out, but I ended up catching a flight to San Francisco for a week a few hours after that. Like I said, as soon as I get a PayPal addy from him, I'll shoot off a payment to him.

Originally Posted By lpspinner:btw, what was it like as a guy searching for another guy on dating sites? Did you get any ideas?

Google is a great search engine! Can find just about anything on anyone in seconds.

As for Paypal, I don't use them to receive payments. If you even took time to read my listing, it sez : M/O's only right at the top, PMO preferred. That means any type of Brand name M/O, not just a PMO.

If you want to send a M/O, go right ahead. Might want to send it Priority with a DC#, as payment is extremely late.

Guess maybe next time, you should take time to pay for stuff U say you want on time, as I requested payment in 10 days & today makes 30 days & not string folks long for a month or so then give a excuse for not paying for something U said U wanted to buy, but that's the reply that I kinda expected.

We all have heard all the excuses out there, time & time again. Still doesn't change my mind about a -1, as U dropped the ball on your end, not me. I never have & never will. I cowboy up to my end of every deal (as both a Buyer & a Seller)& Yep, my feedback speaks for itself all over the net!

Might be time to start a top 100 list of infamous excuses for not paying for items?

Originally Posted By lpspinner:I have never broadcast over the internet any dealings that I have that gone sour. It was between me and the other person.

The lord forgives, but I do not, especially when it comes to $$ owed to me. Guess we all sell stuff just for the fun of it?

Originally Posted By lpspinner:How many people here can get to their emails on holidays and weekends. I certainly as a rule can't.

If U can't check your emails at least once a day (especially when U agreed to purchase an item from someone & basically disappear), then do not agree to buy period.

Prompt communications & prompt payment is everything on any net transaction (Whether it is on Ebay, GB, AA or right here in the EE) & it's a rule I follow whith every deal that I agree to.

If that's the case, then AR15.com just set a precedence allowing me or anyone else to start posting feedback for members that didn't conduct any transaction on AR15.com

It happens all the time. We appreciate all info on non-payers from everywhere on the net. Then all will know whom they are & to watch out so they don't get burned by that person who doesn't pay or is a scammer. "I'll take it" means, it's yours (Just like a winning bid on Ebay).

So it's up to you to remit funds & remit them in a timely fashion or within the time frame set by the seller, not whenever U can find time to in your way too busy schedule.

I felt it was called for, because what does payments have to do with dating. He's the one that said he search for me thinking I needed a date. (btw, I don't) He attacked me first with the dating comment. I'm not going to stand by and let that go unanswered. --He found your profile on an "adult community" message board and made a comment that Maybe you're "looking for a date." So that warrants a comment that, in a very thinly veiled way--questions his sexual orientation? I'll ask again--was that really called for?

Anyone that's bought anything from me, has always received their package in a timely manner. --Glad to hear that.

A real man doesn't air his dirty laundry all over the internet. (go ahead and give me another -1 for that). I would've had more respect had he kept it with the originating board and kept to the point. I have never broadcast over the internet any dealings that I have that gone sour. It was between me and the other person. --He's not airing his dirty laundry....he's airing your dirty laundry.

If that's the case, then AR15.com just set a precedence allowing me or anyone else to start posting feedback for members that didn't conduct any transaction on AR15.com --You're a member here....manny1 can't posts his experience with another member? Why is that such a precedent? Besides, you said you did multiple transactions here in the past month....just soi happens that THIS transaction originated elsewhere.

How many people here can get to their emails on holidays and weekends. I certainly as a rule can't.

As for apology.... I did apologize, told him I would get payment out, but I ended up catching a flight to San Francisco for a week a few hours after that. Like I said, as soon as I get a PayPal addy from him, I'll shoot off a payment to him. --I'm not sure if you're responding here to the 1st paragraph in my prior post. If you are, then you missed the point. The point is not just an apology....it's an apology connected to accepting responsibility for your actions (or omission of actions). "Manning up," so to speak. I agree that you offered an apology--but you skipped the manning up part. You went right from the apology part to a bunch of excuses as to why you couldn't do what you said your were going to do, twice.

<font size=1>Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action.</font id=s1>

FWIW, I completed a transaction with lpspinner that took approx. 4 weeks to complete. This was for some reloading supplies that I could not ship for HAZMAT reasons. He was interested and in state so I was able to get the stuff over to my brother who could deliver it to him. He made it clear that he could not finish the transaction for several weeks due to travel. However, in this instance, he was a man of his word and followed through in the timeframe that he stated was possible and with good communication considering his circumstances. So, to quote a line from Full Metal Jacket: "Go easy man."

Originally Posted By feral:--He found your profile on an "adult community" message board and made a comment that Maybe you're "looking for a date." So that warrants a comment that, in a very thinly veiled way--questions his sexual orientation? I'll ask again--was that really called for?

So where does dating come into play here? I never once specifically mentioned anything about his sexual orientation.

Originally Posted By feral:A real man doesn't air his dirty laundry all over the internet. (go ahead and give me another -1 for that). I would've had more respect had he kept it with the originating board and kept to the point. I have never broadcast over the internet any dealings that I have that gone sour. It was between me and the other person. --He's not airing his dirty laundry....he's airing your dirty laundry.

Ok, my fault here for poor choice of words. I should reword it with "their" instead of "his".

Originally Posted By feral:--You're a member here....manny1 can't posts his experience with another member? Why is that such a precedent? Besides, you said you did multiple transactions here in the past month....just soi happens that THIS transaction originated elsewhere.

I agree, sharing your experience is fine. But feedback for something non related? That's like me posting feedback on ebay for an auction on GB or AA.

Originally Posted By feral:As for apology.... I did apologize, told him I would get payment out, but I ended up catching a flight to San Francisco for a week a few hours after that. Like I said, as soon as I get a PayPal addy from him, I'll shoot off a payment to him. --I'm not sure if you're responding here to the 1st paragraph in my prior post. If you are, then you missed the point. The point is not just an apology....it's an apology connected to accepting responsibility for your actions (or omission of actions). "Manning up," so to speak. I agree that you offered an apology--but you skipped the manning up part. You went right from the apology part to a bunch of excuses as to why you couldn't do what you said your were going to do, twice.

I'm not making excuses for "mannig up", but trying to explain. You know, that's the hardest part of my job. People can't relate too or understand that I sometimes cannot do simple things. When you're on a airplane or tied up in a hotel room or just trying to go to a job site. So I'm not going to try and convince you here. When you come into work with plans for that evening and your boss says you need to be on a flight to Raleigh tonight.... There goes your plans to do anything. If it wasn't for automatic bill pay, I'd be in trouble.