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What I dislike most about the supernatural aspect of this film is the way it blends with the naturalism and seems to assert that ghosts are legitimately a thing that may be possible in our real world. I like plenty of movies with supernatural elements, but this film seems to be made by someone who actually believes in ghosts.

I like plenty of movies with supernatural elements, but this film seems to be made by someone who actually believes in ghosts.

I like this aspect of it! I like that the movie acknowledges its existence in a world of super-sophisticated people who don't bat an eye when talking about ghosts. Even the skeptic boyfriend character respects Maureen's drive and motivations.

Overall, I like a lot of individual aspects of this movie, but I still find the execution of the final act too pretentious and empty.

yeah, others' opinions in actual film threads are much more encouraged thus harder to glibly dismiss than in film news or general threads, so I get you on that. (What I don't get is, our pushbacks are always like much less a fraction of the hostility or aggressiveness that is started with, so why make like we're so terrible here)

Tossing out stuff like "This is my favorite" or "I liked it," with no other context, is an empty post. It's an easy contradiction to make, can't be refuted, and becomes its own form of glib dismissal. So I threw back something just as empty -- "see more movies." When that was badly interpreted, I backed off. What's the damage, exactly?

I could have talked more about why I disliked the movie, but honestly, I'm a little worn out from trying. Too many of these threads argue from bad faith or offer quick and easy contradictions and nothing else.

TL;DR: This wasn't your argument, so why are you beefing?

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Tossing out stuff like "This is my favorite" or "I liked it," with no other context, is an empty post.

And? I don't believe it is contravening any movie discussion constitution to do so?
And it seems a bit weird to be upset with a positive post ("It's my favorite of the year") and then subsequently respond negatively by suggesting the opinion reflects a weakness in the person giving it ("See more movies"). Unless you take any dissenting opinion as a personal affront? I mean.... okay?

Edit to add: originally, I saw nothing wrong at all with the exchanges above, yours included, as it just seemed like typical forum banter. It's just surprising that underneath it all you were pissed about it...

I like the tone of the film, the atmosphere it gives off, but it is also a bit of a mess. It's too ambiguous for its own good, like it is trying to be clever but it really isn't. Too many things just don't add up. I still can't get my head around what exactly happened in the hotel room.

She is in the hotel room with the jewels, we hear a door open. Fade to black. We follow an entity as it leaves the hotel. Next, the murderer leaves the hotel and is stopped by cops in plainclothes? WHAT!?

I didn't see her leave the hotel. Did a ghost tell her to leave before the murderer showed up? Or did she die in that room? Was she the entity we followed or was that Lewis? Who called the cops? Why and how does she have the jewels?

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One thing for sure is she is a terrible Medium. Her brother has been following her around dropping glasses and she is completely oblivious to his presence.

I like the tone of the film, the atmosphere it gives off, but it is also a bit of a mess. It's too ambiguous for its own good, like it is trying to be clever but it really isn't. Too many things just don't add up. I still can't get my head around what exactly happened in the hotel room.

She is in the hotel room with the jewels, we hear a door open. Fade to black. We follow an entity as it leaves the hotel. Next, the murderer leaves the hotel and is stopped by cops in plainclothes? WHAT!?

I didn't see her leave the hotel. Did a ghost tell her to leave before the murderer showed up? Or did she die in that room? Was she the entity we followed or was that Lewis? Who called the cops? Why and how does she have the jewels?

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One thing for sure is she is a terrible Medium. Her brother has been following her around dropping glasses and she is completely oblivious to his presence.

For a minute, reading this post, I confused this with the ending of Clouds of Sils Maria...

Kyra getting murdered? Stewart doesn't seem all that affected by it. The "mystery" behind it is quickly resolved. I like she nonchalantly explains to her boyfriend "oh yeah she was murdered, didn't you hear?" Way to act traumatized.

Obviously a weird movie, but I really enjoyed this. I don't understand what happened with, well, nearly anything in the film. And I'm not exaggerating about that. But I loved how observational this whole movie was. It devotes so much time to just watching Kristen Stewart. Watch her dress, make coffee, read a text, get increasingly impatient, get increasingly aroused, and so on. We are given so much time to just watch her process the things happening to her, from the mundane to the supernatural.

I don't even like Stewart as an actress. I think she was just playing herself in this film as she does most films. But apparently I like just watching Kristen Stewart google photos.

Obviously a weird movie, but I really enjoyed this. I don't understand what happened with, well, nearly anything in the film. And I'm not exaggerating about that. But I loved how observational this whole movie was. It devotes so much time to just watching Kristen Stewart. Watch her dress, make coffee, read a text, get increasingly impatient, get increasingly aroused, and so on. We are given so much time to just watch her process the things happening to her, from the mundane to the supernatural.

Yep. I think I understand most of it (I really want/need to see it again), but it's more of a mood piece.