bart05, I agree, 3's the way to go, but some folks STILL have shutdown problems. FWIW, Windows seems to have been plagued with shutdown problems of one sort or another since day 1. I use a standalone shutdown proggie (for convenience) called 'Slawdog' (said to work on all versions, It'll also work with 2 if you can't/won't upgrade. I run XP 3 ). Get it free @:http://www.slawdog.com/products/sma...among other places. Works good and I drag/dropped the icon into my quick launch so it'd be handy for use.HTHEd in Texas

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