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the only ones that matter are james, wade, bosh, and probably gay.wade is staying in miami, bosh will most likely join him, if lebron wins a title he stay in cleveland, so considering our luck, my guess is we end up with rudy ****ing gay.if we don't get lebron james, i don't want anyone else.might as well start collecting lotto picks, and build a championship caliber team the old fashioned way.

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Lowry, as a back up is still filling the 3 main stat lines very tidily. One of the leagues best rebounding PGs. As Clyde loves to say, Lowry's intangible efforts are an invisible statistic.

And $6m to spare to round out the roster if we re-sign N8 at $4m again.

Going in to the 2011-12 season, with Jefferies and Curry the fat slut finally gone, there'll be an extra $17m approx to really cap off a rebuild of the Knicks.
It's amazingly flawed because there are only 8 players with $6m to spare. But that in itself is very telling of how much of a pickle we are in.

I think you can build a solid core around Lee, Durant, Gasol and Fernandez. You get Gallo of the bench as 6th man knocking down shots and spreading the floor. IMO that is the best of the rest and can actually get done.

the only ones that matter are james, wade, bosh, and probably gay.wade is staying in miami, bosh will most likely join him, if lebron wins a title he stay in cleveland, so considering our luck, my guess is we end up with rudy ****ing gay.if we don't get lebron james, i don't want anyone else.might as well start collecting lotto picks, and build a championship caliber team the old fashioned way.

I think Bosh'll go to Miami as well.

And what about Amar'e?

Rudy Gay's not to be sneezed at, but how deflating would it be after all the ****ing hype to have him be the FA signing.

BTW, NY is not going to go through a drawn out rebuilding process. The city has that need to be instantly gratified. Even this season is a purgatory that the Apple can't sit through let alone continue to do so for 2-3 years.

Perhaps unrealistic, but I think that gives us a good rebounding core, we can rotate Gay/Chandler/Gallo on the floor for 2 spots, consistently giving us a good scorer. I also think that none of those guys will get a max contract, which could enable us to actually make the move.

I think you can build a solid core around Lee, Durant, Gasol and Fernandez. You get Gallo of the bench as 6th man knocking down shots and spreading the floor. IMO that is the best of the rest and can actually get done.

Perhaps unrealistic, but I think that gives us a good rebounding core, we can rotate Gay/Chandler/Gallo on the floor for 2 spots, consistently giving us a good scorer. I also think that none of those guys will get a max contract, which could enable us to actually make the move.

That's not crazy at all.... I'd be down with that as well.

If you measure the likelihood of that against James signing, a team like that is a lot more likely and not such a horrific alternate.

Rudy Gay's not to be sneezed at, but how deflating would it be after all the ****ing hype to have him be the FA signing.

BTW, NY is not going to go through a drawn out rebuilding process. The city has that need to be instantly gratified. Even this season is a purgatory that the Apple can't sit through let alone continue to do so for 2-3 years.

the knicks are a joke in the city apart from being a joke around the country, there is no easy way out of this predicament, but the best way would be to get as much young talent as possible and hope they turn into something special.i say no james, get a lotto pick(perry jones) and wait for melo.one guy that would really like to get this year is aldrich he's going to be a brook lopez type but is a better defender.if we can sign and trade lee and chandler for aldrich that needs to get done.

gimme

melo
perry jones(compared to a t-mac/durant hybrid)
gallo
aldrich

and that team is a championship caliber team.we just got to wait.i can wait, i just can sit through all this bull**** without saying anything.

Originally Posted by KBlack25

Call me crazy, but if we don't get a superstar...I'd be cool with Felton, Scola and Rudy Gay...That'd give us

Perhaps unrealistic, but I think that gives us a good rebounding core, we can rotate Gay/Chandler/Gallo on the floor for 2 spots, consistently giving us a good scorer. I also think that none of those guys will get a max contract, which could enable us to actually make the move.

that's not a bad team, but that doesn't scream championship to me. we all want the same thing, a championship.

The same mentality that makes Lee a "must keep" is the same one that will lead to our continued failure. We cannot win by over-valuing David Lee types. Over paid- under performer types just set franchises back. Lee (like Duhon) can do everything except what we need him to do. Stop the homerism and move on. If you're a big and can't play Defense, your worthless period.
We will never win with a Lee, Duhon- can get us over mentality. They are the proverbial "trees" stopping some from seeing the forest! While the incompetent Knicks value and try to appease the Lees of the world- real (smart) teams don't think twice about over paying this guy. Butts in the seats matter to small market teams, winning matters to real contenders.
David Lee is not a winner, nor has what it takes to win. Although he has what it takes to outprice himself off contending teams and get his payday with a desperate team- oops that may be us....smh!

The same mentality that makes Lee a "must keep" is the same one that will lead to our continued failure. We cannot win by over-valuing David Lee types. Over paid- under performer types just set franchises back. Lee (like Duhon) can do everything except what we need him to do. Stop the homerism and move on. If you're a big and can't play Defense, your worthless period.
We will never win with a Lee, Duhon- can get us over mentality. They are the proverbial "trees" stopping some from seeing the forest! While the incompetent Knicks value and try to appease the Lees of the world- real (smart) teams don't think twice about over paying this guy. Butts in the seats matter to small market teams, winning matters to real contenders.
David Lee is not a winner, nor has what it takes to win. Although he has what it takes to outprice himself off contending teams and get his payday with a desperate team- oops that may be us....smh!

This is nonsense...Lee is a budding all-star and playing out of position. Will he ever be an elite defender? Probably not but he is an elite rebounder, plays with intensity, can finish with both hands and only now developed a consistent mid-range jumper that is taking his game to another level. He shoots a high percentage and is not turnover prone.There are like 5 dudes in the NBA at any given time that can put 20 and 10 up on average and Lee is one of them. He is doing this with the worst starting PG in the league and out of position. He leads the league in assists for centers so his passing is also way above average. Diminishing his entire game because he can't defend bigger, stronger centers is wrong. Further, no one is claiming we should give him a max deal or that we must sign him above all other players.

Lee's game has only one weakness...D. That weakness is magnified because he is a PF playing center.

Not that I'd want him anywhere other than the Sixers because of his legacy there, the Knicks could use Iverson as PG if they can't get one otherwise.He's shown this season he's down with passing the ball.We wouldn't pay him that much, and it could help us land a FA.