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Valrifell wrote:NYC is not an authoritarian shithole because they have laws you disagree with and restrict a right you feel is completely inalienable.

Its exaggeration at best and another shitty attempt to demonize the other at worst.

They banned drinks over 16oz. That’s the very definition of being authoritarian

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Valrifell wrote:NYC is not an authoritarian shithole because they have laws you disagree with and restrict a right you feel is completely inalienable.

Its exaggeration at best and another shitty attempt to demonize the other at worst.

They banned drinks over 16oz. That’s the very definition of being authoritarian

Can't have that evil soda lobby (probably run by republicans) making everyone fat.

It'd be one thing if the draconian gun laws were limited to NYC and not spreading to the rest of the state, but unfortunately that's exactly what's happening.

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Valrifell wrote:NYC is not an authoritarian shithole because they have laws you disagree with and restrict a right you feel is completely inalienable.

Its exaggeration at best and another shitty attempt to demonize the other at worst.

The 2nd Amendment is not completely off limits yes, but it is still a right that should be regulated under reasonable and logical laws, just like the First amendment in which you can't yell fire in a crowded theater or slander, or threaten with violence, but many of the current regulations on guns are completely ludicrous, absurd, and nonsensical since firearms are a constitutional right and not a privilege, which many States, e.g. New York, Massachusetts, California, Hawaii, etc behave like its a privilege rather than a right and regulate it with absurd and borderline unconstitutional laws.

You cannot uphold one right (Neo-Nazis or Antifa being able to spew their bullshit publicly) while also limiting one right to it almost being an hassle to have than a right (NY being on your ass about type of firearms and carry permits costing so much money). Its simply hypocritical and does authoritarian in nature.

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Valrifell wrote:NYC is not an authoritarian shithole because they have laws you disagree with and restrict a right you feel is completely inalienable.

Its exaggeration at best and another shitty attempt to demonize the other at worst.

This """"""""""""""""""""""""""""argument"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" could be applied to Saudi Arabia, Iran, North Korea, Zimbabwe, California, or any number of other authoritarian shitholes.

Except they do other things than restrict guns or soda. Like violent suppression of dissent, for example. It doesn't matter what you feel but regulation of firearms isn't comparable to a government actively working against people. Your """""""""""argument""""""""" is saying that crimes against humanity and the regulation of firearms are comparable.

Which is plainly silly from any reasonable point of view.

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Crockerland wrote:This """"""""""""""""""""""""""""argument"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" could be applied to Saudi Arabia, Iran, North Korea, Zimbabwe, California, or any number of other authoritarian shitholes.

Except they do other things than restrict guns or soda. Like violent suppression of dissent, for example. It doesn't matter what you feel but regulation of firearms isn't comparable to a government actively working against people. Your """""""""""argument""""""""" is saying that crimes against humanity and the regulation of firearms are comparable.

Which is plainly silly from any reasonable point of view.

Valrifell wrote:NYCSaudi Arabia is not an authoritarian shithole because they have laws you disagree with and restrict a right you feel is completely inalienable.

Its exaggeration at best and another shitty attempt to demonize the other at worst.

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Thermodolia wrote:They banned drinks over 16oz. That’s the very definition of being authoritarian

Can't relate; dont drink soda.

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Crockerland wrote:This """"""""""""""""""""""""""""argument"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" could be applied to Saudi Arabia, Iran, North Korea, Zimbabwe, California, or any number of other authoritarian shitholes.

Except they do other things than restrict guns or soda. Like violent suppression of dissent, for example. It doesn't matter what you feel but regulation of firearms isn't comparable to a government actively working against people. Your """""""""""argument""""""""" is saying that crimes against humanity and the regulation of firearms are comparable.

Which is plainly silly from any reasonable point of view.

Does it not become infinitely easier to commit crimes against humanity if no one can defend themselves?

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I am not making this up, the CDRs watch what other people do and report you for anything, against the Revolution.

As a Conservative Republican, I do support background checks and keeping guns away from the mentally ill, but any one can snap and commit a crime with any kind of weapon, it happens, so I hope gun control activists are not successful.

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Valrifell wrote:NYC is not an authoritarian shithole because they have laws you disagree with and restrict a right you feel is completely inalienable.

Its exaggeration at best and another shitty attempt to demonize the other at worst.

That may not cause them to be a shithole, but this in addition to other laws makes it pretty terrible to live in.

Frankly, no gun control is the appropriate amount of gun control.

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Kernen wrote:That may not cause them to be a shithole, but this in addition to other laws makes it pretty terrible to live in.

Frankly, no gun control is the appropriate amount of gun control.

So you think 6 year olds should be able to buy pistols?

Yes. Then again what 6 yr old is going to have the money to do so?

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