Map Name: Mississippi MagnoliaMapmaker(s):Vicfontaine, vaughn03 appearing as The Voice of Reason, aka, the Production Artist.Number of Territories: 78Special Features: multi-level bonuses (multiple regions, autodeploys, additional bonuses within regions, etc.), culture-specific to MississippiWhat Makes This Map Worthy of Being Made: There are no unique Deep South (USA) maps and this one provides that as well as detail into some Mississippi history; gameplay is easy but multi-dimensional with bonuses, attacks, defensive positions, etc.

UPDATE AS OF June 7, 2012. Please make this supersized. You have no real quality objections not to and had already told us you would. We continue to get complaints about how "crowded" this looks. We've continued to say, "Make it supersize and it won't be crowded."

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WHAT HAS CHANGED:1) Legend has been clarified2) Slight alteration of map and tert locations for clarity3) **OBJECTIVE WIN HAS BEEN ADDED4) More awesomeness included

(Older Version:)(update #5)

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(update #4)

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ORIGINALS (hand-drawn):

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— Terts separated by thin black lines (the highways of MS), thick red lines (MS interstates), and the white line (the historic Natchez Trace Parkway). Attacks are made over impassables through cities. Thus, cities sitting on I-55 connect their adjoining terts, etc.

— Many cultural icons scattered in approximately their actual geographical areas; these are accessed via small-towns (where the culture really is anyway) indicated by the "red cities."

— Steamboats, a historical feature of the Mighty Mississippi river (and MS state), as well as Gulf Fishing Boats (a major part of our state). River cities that autodeploy (along with other "blue cities").

Multiple bonus features; many angles of attack and defense. This is a strategist's DREAM map: 1) hard to contain and be contained2) hard to win (objective: hold all CT's and Jackson and Memphis for 1 turn to win), especially on no spoils (my preference in games)3) having to think several turns ahead and anticipate the enemies movement

Great effort I wish you all the best m8 I sincerely hope no 'good-ball' player or map foundry member causes you to lose interest in your map creation (visa-vie a grossly discouraging comment or overly harsh criticism) Sincerely wishing you all the best GL !!! & don't lose faith in your ability cheers !

closing down my Conquer Club account due to the WAY 2 RANDOM dice that Conquer Club contracts to 'random.org' "I'm done" ! gonna play here: http://sillysoft.net/lux/

raston_morue wrote:It needs to have the freestate of Jones on there as a +1 auto deploy or as a tert that recycles back to 10 neutrals, but it can attack any capital. Just a thought.

Just so folks know what you're talking about and for which you're asking:

During the War of Northern Aggression...er...the War for Constitutionally Consistent Southern Independence...er...the Civil War (please note: I'm joking...it's a Southern thang) the Mississippi county called "Jones" became populated with Confederate deserters and Union sympathizes and caused some problems from the brave men of Mississippi . I wanted to add another cultural treasure to Piney Woods, but couldn't think of one. That could be it. It's absolutely fascinating history.

I agree Raston...that would be very fascinating to add. I'll consider it for sure. Though I'm not sold on it needing to be a +1 auto. From my perspective, it should be a -5 to anything there.

BUT, it could be part of an objective win so you HAD to have Jones County to win (and it started as...say...20 neutral just to make it historically stubborn, as it was) unless a player managed a domination win of other players.

Last edited by VicFontaine on Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:54 am, edited 1 time in total.

raston_morue wrote:It needs to have the freestate of Jones on there as a +1 auto deploy or as a tert that recycles back to 10 neutrals, but it can attack any capital. Just a thought.

Just so folks know what you're talking about and for which you're asking:

During the War of Northern Aggression...er...the War for Constitutionally Consistent Southern Independence...er...the Civil War (please note: I'm joking...it's a Southern thang) the Mississippi county called "Jones" refused to secede with Mississippi. Specifically, they sort of seceded from Mississippi. They were yankees in spirit and supported the Union in the Civil War.

I agree Raston...that would be very fascinating to add. I'll consider it for sure. Though I'm not sold on it needing to be a +1 auto. From my perspective, it should be a -5 to anything there.

BUT, it could be part of an objective win so you HAD to have Jones County to win (and it started as...say...20 neutral just to make it historically stubborn, as it was) unless a player managed a domination win of other players.

I have never been to the Freestate of Jones, but have heard similar comments (still) about it not being a contribution, but a negative type thing LOL

One thing is, you could make each region have a "capital." So many capitals get you bonus troops as well.

On the other side, it is hard to see connectivity.

On the flip, I really like the idea.

There is the Texas map, but it holds no special feeling for me other than the fact that I have been to the majority of the towns. The designer missed the idea of the "personal" touch, with the alamo, state capital, Baylor, UT, A&M, Sam Houston, Galveston Historical Homes, Tumbleweeds, etc.

You have really captured the feel from a point of view of a local. I recommend working on a larger (less decorated map). This way, one can see the connectivity and the flow. (make it with BOB in mind).

raston_morue wrote:One thing is, you could make each region have a "capital." So many capitals get you bonus troops as well.

It would have to be "county seats" or such. Not capitols. But it's possible. I tried to incorporate something like that already via the +1 auto-deploys on the medium cities and the +2 autodeploys on Jackson and Memphis/Southhaven. BTW, the reason Memphis is included on a map on Mississippi is because Memphis couldn't exist without Olive Branch, Southhaven, etc,. all in North Mississippi. A large portion of Memphis' workforce live in North Mississippi and are Mississippians.

raston_morue wrote:You have really captured the feel from a point of view of a local. I recommend working on a larger (less decorated map). This way, one can see the connectivity and the flow. (make it with BOB in mind).

Thanks for the compliments. I can almost hear you do a Slick Willy Bill Clintonesque, "I feel your pain." On another note, if the map is "good enough" and everyone likes it, it could be a Big Map, I guess.

raston_morue wrote:You have really captured the feel from a point of view of a local. I recommend working on a larger (less decorated map). This way, one can see the connectivity and the flow. (make it with BOB in mind).

Thanks for the compliments. I can almost hear you do a Slick Willy Bill Clintonesque, "I feel your pain." On another note, if the map is "good enough" and everyone likes it, it could be a Big Map, I guess.

I meant for you to work on a larger map just to bang out the connectivity issues. Keep the decorations, etc. But no use in you redesigning it 100 times and redoing the freehand stuff. Once you get the gameplay bugs worked out, then you can re-stylize it. I would imagine the biggest thing the foundry will really look for is:

Looks interesting Vic - you Atilla killer. Love the history, although the the anniversary of the War of 1812 is coming next year, and being Canadian, it would be great to see a map illustrating our conquest over the "yankee dogs".

Atillahun wrote:Looks interesting Vic - you Atilla killer. Love the history, although the the anniversary of the War of 1812 is coming next year, and being Canadian, it would be great to see a map illustrating our conquest over the "yankee dogs".

If you can get this map to beta I'll give it a go.

The War of British Arrogance & Imperialism? Yes, that would be a great map. Very easy, actually. Maybe we can work on that one if this one is approved.

Not really, it isn't . That's just a geographically accurate city-map of a beautifully historic city...but lacking all cultural distinctions as a southern city. It's just a big territory map with suburb-type bonuses.

Are you talking about a map in the Foundry of which I am not aware? The only Charles-SC map I know is what I described above. It IS a great map, but there's not depth like this one would have with multiple attack vectors (bombardments, cross-map assaults), standard bonuses as well as auto-deploys and "triggered" bonuses (If you hold A, then bonus B; if you hold A and C, then bonuses B and D, etc.), etc.