Really? Because there are plenty of gun forums where they're discussing how to make home loaded ammunition with things like wooden stakes soaked in holy water to kill vampires, how to make silver ammunition, what loads are best for certain monsters, etc. . I've been a part of and have socialized with the gun enthusiast community (off line) all my life and I can say without the slightest doubt, that gun enthusiast community has a disproportionately high number of crazy, grossly misinformed and politically extremist people. In short the stereotype IS correct. A smaller but significantly high proportion of the community are driven by fear of virtually everything around them. Get to know them and you'll find that many will sheepishly admit that they own zombie, vampire and werewolf loads, "just in case". Many gun owners gravitate to firearms ownership because of their fears. Fear of the violent behaviors of others, imaginary or not. Then there are gun owners who were raised shooting firearms and the just find them interesting and fun. Personally, I've never carried or wanted to carry a firearm in public. I've carried handguns and rifles in the woods for fun more times than I can count but I've never felt the need to own a gun for protection from man or imaginary beast but I do believe we should possess that right.

3StratMan:Mitt Romney ceases do be relevant about anything in this country on November 6th. Playing a twisted sort of "But Bush" game with a guy who DIDN'T get elected as the focal point is more ridiculous yet.

All he's saying is that it was ridiculous for the NRA to back Romney. No one's saying b-b-b-but Romney, no one's blaming Romney for anything. He was just illustrating what partisan morons the NRA is (are, whatever).

Really? Because there are plenty of gun forums where they're discussing how to make home loaded ammunition with things like wooden stakes soaked in holy water to kill vampires, how to make silver ammunition, what loads are best for certain monsters, etc. . I've been a part of and have socialized with the gun enthusiast community (off line) all my life and I can say without the slightest doubt, that gun enthusiast community has a disproportionately high number of crazy, grossly misinformed and politically extremist people. In short the stereotype IS correct. A smaller but significantly high proportion of the community are driven by fear of virtually everything around them. Get to know them and you'll find that many will sheepishly admit that they own zombie, vampire and werewolf loads, "just in case". Many gun owners gravitate to firearms ownership because of their fears. Fear of the violent behaviors of others, imaginary or not. Then there are gun owners who were raised shooting firearms and the just find them interesting and fun. Personally, I've never carried or wanted to carry a firearm in public. I've carried handguns and rifles in the woods for fun more times than I can count but I've never felt the need to own a gun for protection from man or imaginary beast but I do believe we should possess that right.

starsrift:Don't be an idiot. Criminals don't want to fark with you or your family, they want your 52" TV and laptop and jewelry.

Me, I'm not sure I could live with killing someone for wanting to steal a TV. Imported Chinese electronics just don't matter to me that much, I guess.

I'm getting a gun. There were two home invasions in my town in as many years that resulted in the deaths of the resident. One seems like the kid who got killed was screwing someone over in a drug deal. The other was an elderly man who didn't want to cooperate with the intruders. Generally I think you're right that people don't burglarize a home to cause harm. But I also think people who burglarize as desperate to begin with, and are capable of doing desperate things.

Either way, if I wake up in the middle of the night and there's a guy trying to steal my TV, he can have it. I'm not firing. I'm not getting a gun to protect my TV. It's illegal in my state to kill someone for that anyway. I'm getting the gun so if the guy sees that he woke me up and decided he still wants to take my shiat by going through me first, he's getting shot. On the other hand if he decides this wasn't a good idea and wants to leave, I'll simply point him to the door and he can do so. I hope you can see the difference between this and your example, and maybe tone down the "idiot" talk.

I'll wager that if 80 million Americans started buying any class of merchandise, e.g., broccoli, a portion of them are buying that to protect themselves from alien attacks, shielding from HAARP. Or zombies.

Humans are dumb. No Subby, even dumber than that. A lot dumber.

Look for religious zealotry (any flavor) and you've found the functional equivalent of zombies.

NFA:Pud: Well, is anyone actually worried about those sparkly vampires? The werewolves are just kindred souls, and witches are just misunderstood. Now the zombies on the other hand .....

Believe it or not, you can buy both silver plated bullet AND zombie loads. Seriously are gun owners really that stupid? Some gun ranges also hold zombie shoots.

The gun range thing is just for fun.

There is a tiny minority of people stupid enough to think they zombies might someday be a thing.

Then again, we live in a country where people think than airplanes are spraying us with dangerous chemicals, that the USGovernment is responsible for 9/11, that homeopathy works, that ghosts and God are real, or that we actually lost the Iraq war.

WinoRhino:Either way, if I wake up in the middle of the night and there's a guy trying to steal my TV, he can have it. I'm not firing. I'm not getting a gun to protect my TV. It's illegal in my state to kill someone for that anyway. I'm getting the gun so if the guy sees that he woke me up and decided he still wants to take my shiat by going through me first, he's getting shot. On the other hand if he decides this wasn't a good idea and wants to leave, I'll simply point him to the door and he can do so. I hope you can see the difference between this and your example, and maybe tone down the "idiot" talk.

I would expect most anti gun people, and people who don't care one way or another, to not get the point about the whole "zombie' thing. The term has been coined to describe the mindless, crack addicted scum that might be stupid enough to try to rob, rape or kill an innocent victim at a time when both parties know full well that the police are highly unlikely to show up in time to stop some ugly shiat from going down. Sort of like how I now describe the hookers and pimps that I see on Michigan Ave while driving through Inkster on the way to work at 5 AM as "walkers".

Zombie is a pretty good nickname for crack addicted scum who prey on innocent people in my book. Sub human at least.

I love pop culture but I can't understand the zombie thing. They aren't hot like vampires and werewolves, they aren't real, they aren't cool. I seem to be the lone voice saying "WTF is with the zombie fad?" I have NO idea what makes zombies so appealing or why people are so into them.

/my lawn, get off it//stop liking what I don't like *shakes tiny fist of rage*

Really? Because there are plenty of gun forums where they're discussing how to make home loaded ammunition with things like wooden stakes soaked in holy water to kill vampires, how to make silver ammunition, what loads are best for certain monsters, etc. . I've been a part of and have socialized with the gun enthusiast community (off line) all my life and I can say without the slightest doubt, that gun enthusiast community has a disproportionately high number of crazy, grossly misinformed and politically extremist people. In short the stereotype IS correct. A smaller but significantly high proportion of the community are driven by fear of virtually everything around them. Get to know them and you'll find that many will sheepishly admit that they own zombie, vampire and werewolf loads, "just in case". Many gun owners gravitate to firearms ownership because of their fears. Fear of the violent behaviors of others, imaginary or not. Then there are gun owners who were raised shooting firearms and the just find them interesting and fun. Personally, I've never carried or wanted to carry a firearm in public. I've carried handguns and rifles in the woods for fun more times than I can count but I've never felt the need to own a gun for protection from man or imaginary beast but I do believe we should possess that right.

Yeaaaaaah.

I read a number of the most popular gun forums, and I've never, ever seen anyone seriously discussing making holy water bullets or whatever it is you're talking about.

I will agree there are a lot of hardheaded, kooky people out there on the forums, but I find there are just as many people who call them idiots.

Well, most bullets go reasonably fast. I'm a shotgun man myself though, since I found how readily my HALO shotgun skills translated to shooting range skills. I figure you want to make their head go kablooey and that's what it does to zombie head analogues.

It's really just for getting zombies off the truck, anyway. My codriver is a good diesel mechanic and welder and he has designs for an easy to assemble zombie catcher for the front of the truck. The goal is to not need to shoot very much anyway. I just want to yell "This is my boomstick!" as we pile through zombies. I figure DoT probably won't care that much about guns in trucks at that point.

DragonNerd:The "Zombie apocalypse" is just a politically-correct, tongue-in-cheek way of saying what is more commonly called "S*** Hits the Fan": a short- to mid-term breakdown in infrastructure and order due to any number of causes, ranging from natural disasters (q.v., Hurricane Katrina) or a pandemic disease outbreak to a major social/economic/political crisis (q.v., Iraqi Civil War, American Civil War or, on a smaller scale, the 1992 LA riots). "the coloreds' uprising."

starsrift:"They're defending themselves because they know that even though the police try to do a real good job...when seconds count as they say the police are minutes are away. People have decided 'Hey I can't wait for the cavalry to come to my rescue I've got to defend myself and my family and my home,'" he said.

Don't be an idiot. Criminals don't want to fark with you or your family, they want your 52" TV and laptop and jewelry.

Me, I'm not sure I could live with killing someone for wanting to steal a TV. Imported Chinese electronics just don't matter to me that much, I guess.

So true. I live in the midwest where (in my opinion) most people have never lived in a dangerous neighborhood. There have been some car break ins (in some cases the cars were UNLOCKED and in others valuable items like laptops were left in plain site) and my neighbors are so up in arms talking about their guns and how they're gonna get these thieves. Or how they think they need to move because it is too dangerous here.

All those guns you're buying are not going to help because I don't think the thieves are going to break in while you're home.And if you don't have a nice gun safe they'd be happy to steal your guns too...

Even the CDC is touting te zombie apocalypse. Not because it is a viable threat, ut because the imaginary threat could be used in place of any number of emergency scenarios. Look at Katrina, people tat were prepared for a few days without food, fresh water, and law enforcement fared much better than the guy with the recycle bin full of Heineken.

Yeah but you have a to pump a shotgun after every shot. If a horde of fast zombies are coming down on you, you wouldn't get them fast enough. An Uzi, only something that has a bigger magazine would be better.

About a month ago I was at a ranch shooting with a bunch of rednecks. Say what you will but this is a fun day. I did find it amusing that later in the day they were all cussing about the freedoms we're losing under Obama (I didn't hear a single specific mentioned) while we went about putting away every manner of legal "assault weapon" used that day.

coldf33t:starsrift: "They're defending themselves because they know that even though the police try to do a real good job...when seconds count as they say the police are minutes are away. People have decided 'Hey I can't wait for the cavalry to come to my rescue I've got to defend myself and my family and my home,'" he said.

Don't be an idiot. Criminals don't want to fark with you or your family, they want your 52" TV and laptop and jewelry.

Me, I'm not sure I could live with killing someone for wanting to steal a TV. Imported Chinese electronics just don't matter to me that much, I guess.

There are many, many more where this came from....in this metro area alone.

Link

Authorities in Marietta are trying to find the man who broke into a home on Hazel Street, and assaulted and robbed an elderly woman.

'Investigators with the Marietta Police Department say a man forced his way into the home early Sunday morning. They say the man overpowered the victim, and threatened her if she did not cooperate. He made off with cash and jewelry.

"It's shocking, a home invasion," said a neighbor.

Stop calling people idiots.....idiot.

It's my experience that home invasion robberies are much more common in low income neighborhoods. Middle and upper-middle class homes are more likely to have security systems, neighbors willing to get involved and fast-response cops. Then there's the whole phenomenon that's very underreported: black home invaders targeting Hispanics, since many Hispanics are here illegally and won't call the cops, and even those here legally, like many other immigrant communities, are less likely to call the police.

3StratMan:I would expect most anti gun people, and people who don't care one way or another, to not get the point about the whole "zombie' thing. The term has been coined to describe the mindless, crack addicted scum that might be stupid enough to try to rob, rape or kill an innocent victim at a time when both parties know full well that the police are highly unlikely to show up in time to stop some ugly shiat from going down. Sort of like how I now describe the hookers and pimps that I see on Michigan Ave while driving through Inkster on the way to work at 5 AM as "walkers".

Zombie is a pretty good nickname for crack addicted scum who prey on innocent people in my book. Sub human at least.

Yeah, Michigan Ave through Inkster pretty much any time of the day. Not sure if the non-Detroiters get the reference. You should link a Google maps road view.

Abox:About a month ago I was at a ranch shooting with a bunch of rednecks. Say what you will but this is a fun day. I did find it amusing that later in the day they were all cussing about the freedoms we're losing under Obama (I didn't hear a single specific mentioned) while we went about putting away every manner of legal "assault weapon" used that day.

There's pockets of this everywhere, even here in liberal Massachusetts. I went to the gun club with my neighbor. While he was signing in and getting targets I was listening to the members talking in the lounge area. It was a lot of the same type of talk.

"In schools the teachers were telling kids to vote for Obama.""Ridiculous! It's not education-- it's indoctrination!""Damn right!""Pretty soon we'll be down here with sling-shots and bubble gum."

And this was in north metro-Boston. Not exactly out in the boonies. I wanted to remind them the reason they couldn't use their AR-15 to shoot anymore was because of Romney, but I let it go.

Mugato:3StratMan: Mitt Romney ceases do be relevant about anything in this country on November 6th. Playing a twisted sort of "But Bush" game with a guy who DIDN'T get elected as the focal point is more ridiculous yet.

All he's saying is that it was ridiculous for the NRA to back Romney. No one's saying b-b-b-but Romney, no one's blaming Romney for anything. He was just illustrating what partisan morons the NRA is (are, whatever).

Lesser of two evils is more like it. A case of probably being able to work with one, versus no hope at all of any compromise with the other. When the guy you already have has a my way or the highway attitude, time to try somebody else.

Yeah but you have a to pump a shotgun after every shot. If a horde of fast zombies are coming down on you, you wouldn't get them fast enough. An Uzi, only something that has a bigger magazine would be better.

The Saiga-12 and AA-12 would like to have a word with you. As would a host of more traditional high-end semi-auto trap guns.

3StratMan:Lesser of two evils is more like it. A case of probably being able to work with one, versus no hope at all of any compromise with the other. When the guy you already have has a my way or the highway attitude, time to try somebody else.

How is Romney the lesser of 2 evils? You saw that sign posted above in this thread. All of that is correct. Obama's done nothing of the sort. How is Romney better for gun rights?. That doesn't make sense.

/and how is Romney not a "my way or the highway" guy? Or republicans in general for that matter

Yeah this stuff...all you fellow gun owning 'real Americans'...PSA for your own good. STOP with all the John Wayne gunstore cowboy zombie killing crap. You idiots that act like the budget stamped AK you got at Cabelas is an extension of your dick or something? WTF? This is not how grown men and women conduct themselves. Certainly not how RESPONSIBLE stewards of gun rights conduct themselves. You are trivializing something that is too important. And everytime you carry on about your zombie killing ammo, accessories, unsolicited prepper advice and sage wisdom of just how its gonna be when SHTF...WTF? Come into the daylight. Hike the stairs up from your mothers basement and unbarricade the doors on the double wides...you are NOT helping!

Straelbora:3StratMan: I would expect most anti gun people, and people who don't care one way or another, to not get the point about the whole "zombie' thing. The term has been coined to describe the mindless, crack addicted scum that might be stupid enough to try to rob, rape or kill an innocent victim at a time when both parties know full well that the police are highly unlikely to show up in time to stop some ugly shiat from going down. Sort of like how I now describe the hookers and pimps that I see on Michigan Ave while driving through Inkster on the way to work at 5 AM as "walkers".

Zombie is a pretty good nickname for crack addicted scum who prey on innocent people in my book. Sub human at least.

Yeah, Michigan Ave through Inkster pretty much any time of the day. Not sure if the non-Detroiters get the reference. You should link a Google maps road view.

You're right. I just notice them more at 5 AM because there is hardly anyone on the road but me. On the way home at 2PM is a little different. A lot more traffic on the road, and I have to keep an eye out for the clown that wants to cut across 4 lanes of traffic because he decides he wants to turn right onto Inkster Road from the left lane about 100 feet before the intersection. Don't notice the "walkers" so much while that is going on.

Mugato:3StratMan: Lesser of two evils is more like it. A case of probably being able to work with one, versus no hope at all of any compromise with the other. When the guy you already have has a my way or the highway attitude, time to try somebody else.

How is Romney the lesser of 2 evils? You saw that sign posted above in this thread. All of that is correct. Obama's done nothing of the sort. How is Romney better for gun rights?. That doesn't make sense.

/and how is Romney not a "my way or the highway" guy? Or republicans in general for that matter

Like I said earlier, Romney arguments stopped being valid on November 6. "But Romney", just like "But Bush", means nothing. Obama's in the driver's seat, so it's all still about him, what he's already done, hasn't done, or is going to do.

coldf33t:...'Investigators with the Marietta Police Department say a man forced his way into the home early Sunday morning. They say the man overpowered the victim, and threatened her if she did not cooperate. He made off with cash and jewelry(emphasis yours)....

Stop calling people idiots.....idiot.

Pretty much my point.

WinoRhino:Either way, if I wake up in the middle of the night and there's a guy trying to steal my TV, he can have it. I'm not firing. I'm not getting a gun to protect my TV. It's illegal in my state to kill someone for that anyway. I'm getting the gun so if the guy sees that he woke me up and decided he still wants to take my shiat by going through me first, he's getting shot. On the other hand if he decides this wasn't a good idea and wants to leave, I'll simply point him to the door and he can do so.

That's pretty reasonable. Fair enough.

I hope you can see the difference between this and your example, and maybe tone down the "idiot" talk.Tone down the idiot talk? Now you're talking madness; this is Fark!

ronaprhys:Having firearms to stop the zombies is a good idea, but honestly, it's a last resort. Any loud noise like a firearm discharging will do nothing more than alert other zombies to your presence. On the other hand, it's not like you want to get close to them to kill them with an ax or a machete. Too much risk. Best bet is to avoid them and go somewhere that doesn't have zombies.

starsrift:coldf33t: ...'Investigators with the Marietta Police Department say a man forced his way into the home early Sunday morning. They say the man overpowered the victim, and threatened her if she did not cooperate. He made off with cash and jewelry(emphasis yours)....

Watching the sneer on the gun shop guy's face on TV as he was saying how much gun sales went up tells the whole story. That and his bank account.

Each time he recited his litany of conspiracy theories with feigned concerned, it was all he could do to keep a smile from breaking out thinking about how the rubes had just built a second story on his yacht.

WinoRhino:Abox: About a month ago I was at a ranch shooting with a bunch of rednecks. Say what you will but this is a fun day. I did find it amusing that later in the day they were all cussing about the freedoms we're losing under Obama (I didn't hear a single specific mentioned) while we went about putting away every manner of legal "assault weapon" used that day.

There's pockets of this everywhere, even here in liberal Massachusetts. I went to the gun club with my neighbor. While he was signing in and getting targets I was listening to the members talking in the lounge area. It was a lot of the same type of talk.

"In schools the teachers were telling kids to vote for Obama.""Ridiculous! It's not education-- it's indoctrination!""Damn right!""Pretty soon we'll be down here with sling-shots and bubble gum."

And this was in north metro-Boston. Not exactly out in the boonies. I wanted to remind them the reason they couldn't use their AR-15 to shoot anymore was because of Romney, but I let it go.

Me too. When the apocalypse hits, this ranch is where I'm heading so I have to stay in favor.

wildlifer:Void_Beavis: NFA: sammyk: "The numbers seem to support his argument. In Virginia, for example, gun ownership soared 73% between 2006-2011. Over the same period gun related violent crimes actually fell 24 percent."

I'm guessing this trend had more to do with changes in gun carry laws than the election of president Obama. Although the NRA had done nothing but tell lie after lie stating that Obama has grand plans to confiscate guns and give the UN control of our gun ownership. They also put on the cover of American Rifleman, the claim that the best way to beat Obama was to purchase their "challenge coin". Seriously WTF?

Yet, despite Romney's long history of being a complete anti-gunner, including signing a ban of assault rifles and a ban on semi-autos, they endorsed him for president. I've been a life member of the NRA for 25 years and I'm seriously considering cancelling that membership. They've put hack partisan politics over gun rights as their main agenda.

3StratMan:Like I said earlier, Romney arguments stopped being valid on November 6. "But Romney", just like "But Bush", means nothing. Obama's in the driver's seat, so it's all still about him, what he's already done, hasn't done, or is going to do.

Like it matters. The problem is that liberal policies keep failing, or worse blowing up in their faces, and they need someone to blame for it who isn't liberal, or a member of a permanent victim group. That pretty much leaves George Bush, Sarah Palin, and Mitt Romney.

/they're working on getting people to blame Zionist conspiracies, though//"never again" was a joke from the start

And I am your puppet-master. I use the media to sow fear, hatred and discord while you march - under my controlling hand - to buy your petty guns for a lie I conjured and events which will never happen.

got this from somewhere,but forgot where.Zombies are a metaphor for socialists -- brain-dead, voracious, relentless, completely unproductive and thus desperate to consume other people, individually weak (pitifully weak, actually) and dangerous only when encountered in large numbers, and the only sensible way to deal with them is by smashing in their heads.

Well, let's face it, 'zombies' is an analogy to 'welfare recipients' -- parasites who want to eat your brains and devour your life essence. So, yeah, buying a gun can make a lot of sense when you see what's happening in the news.