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I prefer to use JOSM but there's a slight learning curve to it. The in-browser editors are pretty easy to just pick up and use. I know Potlatch made it easy to see any GPS traces in the editing area which had been uploaded to the site, and I suspect iD also has this capability. In JOSM you can do basically that, or simply load your local GPX file as a layer.

Normally I chalk the oversized initial caps up to misreading of the MUTCD, but the fact that they did both oversized and normal caps on the same sign ("WMain St") made it seem like a deliberate thing, which was confusing.

...yeah, that gives me the alignment of the road, but not enough information to actually construct the roundabouts

These were just traces I made while passing through...I get the impression that if I want the actual roundabouts I'm going to have to go out specifically to get traces, by driving through every possible approach

Yeah, I always try to drive through the roundabout at least once in each direction, sometimes several times so I can sort of draw an average line. I also follow the philosophy of a roundabout being four closely-spaced, yield-controlled intersections, and that influences how I draw them on the map.

...yeah, that gives me the alignment of the road, but not enough information to actually construct the roundabouts

These were just traces I made while passing through...I get the impression that if I want the actual roundabouts I'm going to have to go out specifically to get traces, by driving through every possible approach

Okay, I didn't see these before tonight because they didn't show up on my mobile device for some reason. Those are some pretty janky traces. I suggest checking the settings in whatever program records your trace. The sampling interval should be like 1s, with no minimum distance between recorded samples. Also, put your recording device (or the GPS antenna if external) up on the dashboard so it gets a clear view of the sky through the windshield.

Oh so this is where the sloppy traces come from! I never knew that. Not meaning to demean -- I was always wondering why someone wouldn't have done it better but if it's coming from a GPS trying to automate it it makes a lot more sense.

I finally got around to updating Java so JOSM works again*, and I just updated the Jeremiah Morrow Bridge to reflect southbound traffic on the new span. And then I corrected the location of a graveyard that had previously been shown in the middle of the freeway.

*JOSM doesn't auto-update, so I probably broke it myself in the first place by updating it without realizing a new Java version was required

What really bugs me about that part of Marion is if you're coming from 23 and miss the turn onto McMahan, you'd think you could get to Arby's from the Office Depot parking lot, but no. There's a place where those lots connect to the McMahan backage road, but there's giant concrete blocks in the way. So instead you have to go back out to the super busy 95 and make two left turns.

So anyway, I was doing a thought experiment, and see if there was any way at all to get to NYC without paying some sort of toll. So far, the best route I've been able to come up with from, say, Virginia is a thoroughly unpleasant one that goes up I-81 all the way to Binghamton, then takes I-88 to what seems to be the only non-toll Hudson crossing there is, in Albany. And then you get to take US 9 all the way down, because the connection to the Taconic State Parkway is tolled. >.<

If you don't want to bother with all that, the best you can do is Jersey City, NJ via I-78. Though at least you can take PATH from there and leave your car.

So anyway, I was doing a thought experiment, and see if there was any way at all to get to NYC without paying some sort of toll. So far, the best route I've been able to come up with from, say, Virginia is a thoroughly unpleasant one that goes up I-81 all the way to Binghamton, then takes I-88 to what seems to be the only non-toll Hudson crossing there is, in Albany. And then you get to take US 9 all the way down, because the connection to the Taconic State Parkway is tolled. >.<

If you don't want to bother with all that, the best you can do is Jersey City, NJ via I-78. Though at least you can take PATH from there and leave your car.

I drove a route from Hartford to Fairfax and back several times, using mainly I-95. Here's what I remember:* Maryland bridge toll: this one's sorta complicated to avoid, and involves going south to US-40's bridge instead or (if that one has a toll) going north all the way to Conowingo Rd (US-1).* Delaware toll at exit 1: this one's ridiculously easy to avoid. Just take exit 1 or 109 and use Otts Chapel Road and Elkton Road to bypass the toll booth.* New Jersey Turnpike: to avoid this one, follow "real I-95" and go through Pennsylvania instead of New Jersey. I haven't charted the full course for this toll skip yet though. I'm pretty sure it involves some non-expressway roads.* George Washington Bridge / NYC: This one's also very complicated. You can either go around NYC completely, and then approach NYC from the Bronx or Connecticut side, or I think there may be like one or two non-expressway bridges that are non-toll.

The weird T arrow is nonstandard, and... kind of confusing? It seems to imply that you're already on OH 53, and yet OH 53 goes to both the left and right ahead. (You're actually on US 224, and OH 53 is just a regular crossroads ahead.)

Unrelated: It's kind of amusing to me that every map I've ever seen ignores that Worthington signs their stretch of OH 161 as "Granville Rd" instead of "Dublin-Granville Rd" like the rest of Franklin County...including the official County Engineer's map. (pdf warning)

The weird T arrow is nonstandard, and... kind of confusing? It seems to imply that you're already on OH 53, and yet OH 53 goes to both the left and right ahead. (You're actually on US 224, and OH 53 is just a regular crossroads ahead.)

It seems like some agencies (and/or their contractors) treat all signs with ROAD CLOSED interchangeably. Like this 2012 New Albany, Ohio closure. This point was impassable; US 62 at this intersection was very much not open to "local traffic".

It seems like some agencies (and/or their contractors) treat all signs with ROAD CLOSED interchangeably. Like this 2012 New Albany, Ohio closure. This point was impassable; US 62 at this intersection was very much not open to "local traffic".

I've also seen the reverse, with straight-up ROAD CLOSED being used when they clearly intend drivers to be able to access properties that fall between the intersection and the point of closure.

I've seen the latter and other incorrect signage put up by contractors way too many times here in California. So much that I can't even think of a specific example off the top of my head, even though I vaguely recall seeing such just a few weeks ago.

It's not on Street View yet, but...the overhead sign at the US-33/OH-161/OH-257 roundabout in Dublin. Good gravy. Way too much information packed onto the sign to be able to get it all at a glance as you drive past.