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Billy Kilmer was the first Redskin name I learned when I first became a fan. So he will always be up there. After that the list is long... Riggins, Mark Mosley, Dexter Manley, all of the Posse, Gerald Riggs, Cooley, Portis...

__________________ 'Russ Grimm would swallow his dip by halftime and throw up on somebody's shoes. Jeff Bostic and Mark May were fighting about who'd missed an assignment. And man did Riggo stink from his hangover. But we got it done.' Don Warren

I can't really choose one. Art Monk, Dave Butz, and Riggo are definitely among the best. Sean Taylor, however, was simply amazing to watch. He made plays on the ball AND would deliver knock-out hits. He made me smile so many times and yell "oooooooooohhhh," that he's definitely on the list, if not at the very top of it.

Darrell Green is a punk ass bitch. I love nostalgia, but he doesn't deserve all the praise he gets. Yeah, he's fast, yeah he caught Tony Dorsett, and he was a great football player. I was at a private car show in Manassas and saw him walking around with one of his boys. I walked up to him, and said..."Mr. Green, can you sign my hat?" and he said..."No Son, I don't do autographs." So, I said "ok, thanks anyway." Shook his hand, and started to walk away. Then this mentally and physically challenged boy carted up to him in his motorized wheel chair, and the boys Mother asked him, and he said "No, I don't want to be seen, and I don't do autographs."

Point is, is that he is fake as hell, and this youth charity he takes on is probably because of his guilt for so many times he did shit like that. I promise this story is true, and will swear on the bible. Not many people know him like that, so I just thought I'd like to say that because I'm just really tired of people being on his nuts.

Now, my favorite Redskin? I've been watching since 91, and I'd have to say Kurt Gouveia. He was a nasty linebacker. Reminded me of the old Steeler D. Close second would be Dex. Dex has more emotion than I think any of the old Redskins had, with exception to Donnie Warren. I also met him at a car show oddly enough. It was at the MCI center if I'm not mistaken. After a brief convo with Warren, he looks like he hates life for not playing for Gibbs anymore. I like those guys.

For me it's Art Monk, hands down, not even close. Charles Mann is second, and then my third team consists of a bunch of guys: Doug Williams, Darrell Green, Wilber Marshall, Ken Harvey, Monte Coleman and Kurt Gouveia (anyone else remember the announcers always used to say it "Goo-vee-aay"?).

Though I admired Doug so much for that win in Denver, I always really preferred Stan Humphries to Ryp. I really rooted for him in that Super Bowl when he got the chance.

__________________"To bring a Sherm Lewis in to a Jim Zorn and whoever his offensive coordinator is, it's like bringing in another man to help teach you how to make better love to your wife or something." -- Tre Johnson

Darrell Green is a punk ass bitch. I love nostalgia, but he doesn't deserve all the praise he gets. Yeah, he's fast, yeah he caught Tony Dorsett, and he was a great football player. I was at a private car show in Manassas and saw him walking around with one of his boys. I walked up to him, and said..."Mr. Green, can you sign my hat?" and he said..."No Son, I don't do autographs." So, I said "ok, thanks anyway." Shook his hand, and started to walk away. Then this mentally and physically challenged boy carted up to him in his motorized wheel chair, and the boys Mother asked him, and he said "No, I don't want to be seen, and I don't do autographs."

Point is, is that he is fake as hell, and this youth charity he takes on is probably because of his guilt for so many times he did shit like that. I promise this story is true, and will swear on the bible. Not many people know him like that, so I just thought I'd like to say that because I'm just really tired of people being on his nuts.

Now, my favorite Redskin? I've been watching since 91, and I'd have to say Kurt Gouveia. He was a nasty linebacker. Reminded me of the old Steeler D. Close second would be Dex. Dex has more emotion than I think any of the old Redskins had, with exception to Donnie Warren. I also met him at a car show oddly enough. It was at the MCI center if I'm not mistaken. After a brief convo with Warren, he looks like he hates life for not playing for Gibbs anymore. I like those guys.

I've made mention several times of my less than stellar encounters with DG off the field, still I can't deny his impact on the field and what he meant to the success of this franchise. You take someone like Dana Stubblefield for example who as a person was always great to me and probably one of my favorite people to deal with, but as a player I can't consider him a favorite because really what did he do for the team on the field?

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Also, to counter the DG story, I will say that I met a lot of current and former guys from the late 80's / mid-90's Redskins at a charity signing event at the Elks Lodge in Frederick MD when I was a teenager. Russ was there, Joe was there, I think Monte Coleman was as well, Tre Johnson and Jumpy Geathers, that whole crew, but none of the "superstar" marquee guys Art, Darrell, etc.

One very vivid memory I have about the event was that they were there to do a charity raffle for a sick child, but they also had agreed to do some autograph signings (for free). At some point, very early in the event, a lot of really snotty kids started sort of ignoring the auction part and started trying to get the players to sign STACKS of papers, cards, etc. It was the first time I realized, "hey, people are trying to take advantage of this, this is kind of fucked up". A lot of the older guys from the Elks lodge who had organized it were kind of stunned as the kids mobbed the players and you could tell they had lost control of the event.

Joe Jacoby stood up and just BOOMED out a loud "HEY!" and everybody in that room just froze. He then very calmly but sternly admonished the kids, reminding them what they were there for, a sick kid who they were trying to raise money for, and told them to sit down and ONLY after that auction would they sign autographs, and they weren't going to be signing stacks of index cards and merchandise, that people had better be considerate of their fellow fans.

The whole event went off without a hitch after that, it was pretty amazing. I think that was probably the time I realized how important "The Hogs" really were, and what kind of leadership qualities all those guys had.

__________________"To bring a Sherm Lewis in to a Jim Zorn and whoever his offensive coordinator is, it's like bringing in another man to help teach you how to make better love to your wife or something." -- Tre Johnson

I'm gonna go with Art Monk. The classiest person I ever saw play the game in addition to having the most "pure" set of hands in NFL history. Growing up in Loudoun County, VA I got to meet him many times and he would always give you such a warm and humble smile along with some kind words. HOF??? Just because he is not a self promoter?

[QUOTE=XXVI;401787]Darrell Green is a punk ass bitch. I love nostalgia, but he doesn't deserve all the praise he gets.

I knew Green a little growing up and he is a very private person. He made a choice in his career that he wanted a seperate life off the field. He's actually a very nice guy who would help anyone. I was there when one of my friends asked him for an autograph and he said the same thing, "I'm sorry, I don't do autograph's". Instead he gave us a couple of tips on coverage and told us he looked forward to seeing us play. Don't get down on a guy who made a choice for his family, every man has the right to deal with fame their own way.

Kurt Gouveia was an awesome player!!! He would also come give clinics and help out at my practices in high school.

remember how Dave Butz use to have his kid carry his helmet off the field? that was cool.

Awesome memory, I remember that very well. It was the '88 Super Bowl I last recall he and his son were on the sidelines. In fact, I believe it was John Madden that kept referring to Butz' helmet when they had a camera on him during the game and Madden said that it looked like a "used car" it was so scratched up! Great player Butz was.

Mine is probably John Riggins. Glad we don't have to play him tomorrow!!!

Riggins is mine as well. It was pretty cool to see him during the broadcast of the VT vs. Kansas game in the Orange Bowl the other night. One of our boys said "Dad, are you sure that's him? He looks so old!" Oh well, if we lived the life he has we'd all look old I guess! I've heard some say he is a jerk in real life, and he has certainly had his adventures made public courtesy of the media, but as a player, none were more exciting than The Diesel.

Anyway, politely declining to do walk-up autographs isn't such a bad thing, as long as the guy's not a dick about it. People in general have a hard time understanding that celebrities and pro athletes have a right to their privacy and don't really want to be accosted 24/7. I for one don't think they should be forced to live in compounds and hide from the public.

__________________"To bring a Sherm Lewis in to a Jim Zorn and whoever his offensive coordinator is, it's like bringing in another man to help teach you how to make better love to your wife or something." -- Tre Johnson