lets see where to begin heavens gate well at least they had the courage of their convictions and who knows after they jettisoned their earthly shells maybe they did hitch a ride on that spaceship tailing halle bopp hell they may be dancing widdershins around the milky way right now laughing their asses off at all us chickenshits left here down here on the ground with all those other chickens i dont know if anyones noticed but there are like 12 billion chickens on the planet now this is literally the planet of the chickens soon to be kentucky fried is lyara is correct but thats not going to happen because if you are reading this you are on the wrong timeline this is the non nuclear timeline this is the everybody lives happily ever after timeline i not only know it im going to have to insist upon it for real

and while im at it whats so preposterous about the heavens gate people anyway what makes their beliefs any more preposterous than lets say oh yeah the creator of the universe deciding to reveal himself to obscure tribe of hooknosed bedouins then having himself tortured and murdered inorder to impress the locals into starting a religion and then turning the entire operation over to some guy named saul oh yeah it could happen there is insanity on every streetcorner here on the planet of the chickens i daresay everyone of you talked to at least two or three batshit crazy people today and probably didnt even know it hell you may be batshit crazy yourself me too thats the goodbad thing about being crazy you dont know you are until you get uncrazy i think id better lay off the popsicles the sugars making me well a tad agitated off to bed tally ho

I wrote some of my experiences in the earlier pages and how I think it relates to the OPterra msgs. Just want to share what happened last night while I was sleeping. I felt this soothing body vibration..and this time it´s so different and weird,never felt like that b4. it felt ´musical´ like there´s a musical rhythm accompanying the body vibrations. I felt a little lifting(OBE i guess)..and hahaha...I actually felt just a little scared and I opened my eyes a little to check if I might be in some different place already but i was still in my living room.

t day or d dayso if lyara is still here tomorrow she is going to put up a new message and then we will never hear from her again is this true so if lyara does not leave this reality we will never hear from the hosts of heaven again is this true too seems drastic and why would she they never want to communicate with us again why the big effort to have it end in a fizzle

Heaven´s Gate started back in the 1970s, and I highly recommend that people who are interested in its early history read Jacques Vallee´s Messengers of Deception, who documented the techniques of the flying saucer ´missionaries´ "Bo" and "Peep" back in 1975, when they were calling their group "Human Individual Metamorphosis." (Besides Heavens Gate, there have been many UFO-based religions, including the Raelians and "UMMO.") The basic fact is that most of the members of Heaven´s Gate were middle-aged, of both genders, and recruited from college campuses back in the 60s and 70s. Even back in 1975, Applewhite´s doctrines emphasized the transience of the human form, and the abnegation of physicality.

Reading "Messengers of Deception" may be a good thing for another reason, because Vallee makes two critical points that are as important today as they were back then. One is that many of the "flying saucer cults" may be the product of intelligence agencies wishing to test psychological warfare techniques. Many people have compared Heavens Gate to Jonestown, which has also been suspected of being a CIA ´project.´ Heavens Gate, like Jonestown, might have been a ´test´ to see how long a cult could be kept ´underground´ before being ´activated´ -- or, more properly, ´deactivated.´

well here we are folks hunkered down in the bunker the tension so thick you can cut it with a cliche waiting for the inevitable shes not going anywhere people and therein lies the real drama all that work all that energy all that faith for what or for naught i think the hosts have some explaining to do

Cool -- the music thing. I´ve heard that music at various different times as well.

The Sikhs call it "the Audible Lifestream." I think it is the same thing as the holy spirit.

Light & Sound are the creative forces of the Universe -- your body & soul are nutured through this "stream of life".

You soon will feel the intense vibration more like the electricity. The first time I felt that sensation it freaked me out -- but it won´t harm you.

As for the rest of you who seem to be so interested in what is going to happen to Lyra -- don´t be. As it´s been stated so many timesbefore, what happens to YOU or doesn´t happen to YOU is your decision made before YOU incarnated.

I had dreams over 20 years ago about a huge spaceship picking me up during a meteor storm. When I related this to a co-worker at least 5 years after those dreams, he informed me that he had the same dream about the meteor storm but no spaceship came and picked him up.

I´ve told that dream to a lot of people and 99.9% easily considered that it WILL NEVER happen. I feel differently and just like many of you, felt the OT messages struck a certain cord within me. I personally don´t care what happens to Lyra on August 1st. It´s her path to deal with -- I don´t look at it like --- Well, if she´s still here, the message is false. Less than a month ago, I started having more dreams of spaceships. Dreams that I have not had for the last 10 years. All types and sizes and basically the message in those dreams was "We are Here".

Once again when I relate these to other people, it´s just fantasy for them. "It can NEVER happen". The only thing any of you can do is stay true to your heart and then you won´t be disappointed because of someone else.

in christian parlance its called the calvinistic doctrine of election in short nothing you can do gods already decided which of you little buggers he going to take home with him still doesnt explain all those chickens though

AC 317, BEAUTIFULLY said! Yes, I completely agree. No meteor storm in my dream 30+ years ago, but most definitely was taken "up" in a saucer. Remember being quite grieved over my earthly* family not wanting to come. Other than that I was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO happy! I´ll NEVER forget the "feeling" of it!! Family for certain!Love and blessings

and speaking of chickens this really isnt the planet of chickens rather its chicken hell there is nothing more worthless than the life of the individual chicken here in chicken hell even cockroaches get more respect they at least inspire some awe and trepidation but here if a chick is unfortunate enough to be hatched its life is most certain to be mean nasty brutish and short caged maimed drugged and worked to death in little chicken trebinkas and then eviserated boiled and dismembered food for dogs cats and the fowl fiends and flibbertigibbets that push the buttons and shuffle the papers here in chicken hell the lucky ones are never born in this case being haploid isnt such a bad gig albeit short you get to miss out on all the bureaucrats and thats got to be a good thing

7149:It´s your higher self that sets the parameters with your input --- (it´s our egos that don´t allow us to perceive this presence or influence)

Mcubik:I´ve never read anything of Calvin and don´t know anything about what he taught. I think it would be safe to say that if I lived during his time I could never be able to freely talk about my perceptions without having my life terminated permaturely. (But then again -- that would probably fit into the "this is what I was going to experience in that lifetime" category if it was).

867:Thank you for sharing your dream -- I had one dream that had thousands of the little silver saucer shaped craft -- and they were here to evacuate people from the planet.

Also, had another dream with a dark, triangle shaped craft -- and those guys were really up to no good. They had a very negative vibration and I heard a voice which said "because mankind has infested the earth (implied to me like a disease) it will have to be purified (implied by fire). Scared the crap out of me.

Seems not every lifeforce in the universe cares to head for the light.

"Also, had another dream with a dark, triangle shaped craft -- and those guys were really up to no good. They had a very negative vibration..."

According to Zetatalk, the triangular craft are man-made. Interesting that you got that message from them. I´ve imagined them filled with NSA agents and technology, floating around in the skies at night, speaking their cult-religions into the implants of their mind-controlled channelers.

Yes, my dear Searcher, this is a decisive day.Like Elijah, who ascended to the Heaven ina Cloud of Fire, with day and hour marked, now we have our modern version or Elijah.

Our dear Lyara is to be taken to the Shipstoday at most, according the predictions.

If no message appears on the Website bytomorrow, we will know that Lyara has goneand that the Harvest has begun.

Then the next question will be:

When will WE be lifted ?

The Calendar for Levitation was alreadygiven by the Hosts.

If the Harvest indeed will begin tomorrow,we can estimate the time frame for ourlifting.

We can never forget too the " Booster Rocket Event ".

We know by "Farewell for Awhile" that somewill be lifted even before the BRE; butmost will be lifted AFTER the BRE ( and some DURING the BRE )

And we know by our studies of the messagesfrom God, Jesus and Mother Mary throughthe Catholic and Protestant Seers, that the First Event we probably will live isthe Warning of Garabandal, when we hopeto see the Heaven and be Raptured in theFirst Wave of Ascension.

You know that after the Spiritual Experienceof the Warning, will follow the Great Earth-quake of the openning of the Sixth Seal ofApocalypse.

Let´s hope - and pray - that we will be RapturedBEFORE the BRE or at most, DURING the Warning,

"I´ve told that dream to a lot of people and 99.9% easily considered that it WILL NEVER happen. I feel differently and just like many of you, felt the OT messages struck a certain cord within me. I personally don´t care what happens to Lyra on August 1st. It´s her path to deal with -- I don´t look at it like --- Well, if she´s still here, the message is false. Less than a month ago, I started having more dreams of spaceships. Dreams that I have not had for the last 10 years. All types and sizes and basically the message in those dreams was "We are Here".

Once again when I relate these to other people, it´s just fantasy for them. "It can NEVER happen". The only thing any of you can do is stay true to your heart and then you won´t be disappointed because of someone else.