I don't think this new season is that bad...slower than the others, but you could say the same for Season 3 of Dexter.

They're setting up some major boiling points in the first three episodes. Don's going to crack soon, Joan needs to drop her loser Doc Husband off a roof, and this whole British ownership thing's going to explode as well.

Mitch wrote:I don't think this new season is that bad...slower than the others, but you could say the same for Season 3 of Dexter.

They're setting up some major boiling points in the first three episodes. Don's going to crack soon, Joan needs to drop her loser Doc Husband off a roof, and this whole British ownership thing's going to explode as well.

Plus, seeing Peggy stoned was great.

If by "slow" you mean Jaylew to the 2 hole, then yeah.

I wanted Peggy to invent a new snack food, like the Suzi Q or trhe Pringle when doing her Keith Murray imitation.

Don will never, ever, ever crack. He's the illest MFer from here to Gardinia. As they said in the day: So phresh, so clean.

Mitch wrote:I don't think this new season is that bad...slower than the others, but you could say the same for Season 3 of Dexter.

They're setting up some major boiling points in the first three episodes. Don's going to crack soon, Joan needs to drop her loser Doc Husband off a roof, and this whole British ownership thing's going to explode as well.

Plus, seeing Peggy stoned was great.

If by "slow" you mean Jaylew to the 2 hole, then yeah.

I wanted Peggy to invent a new snack food, like the Suzi Q or trhe Pringle when doing her Keith Murray imitation.

Don will never, ever, ever crack. He's the illest MFer from here to Gardinia. As they said in the day: So phresh, so clean.

+10 for dropping the "the illest MFer from here to Gardinia" line.. freakin great, even for you JB.

I am enjoying this season so far, even if its a bit slow. I believe everything is being set up for a massive change this season. Matthew Weiner has said thats the theme of the season and so far, the events seen are just foreshadowing the inevitable.

Also, the throw down between Don and Roger Sterling is coming and it will be great!

“Baseball is like church. Many attend but few understand.”- Wes Westrum

"The future is like a Japanese game show, we have no idea whats going on." - Tracy Jordan

"Gentlemen, Chicolini here may talk like an idiot and look like an idiot, but don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot."-Rufus T. Firefly

Great episode last night...probably the best one of the year so far. Something very much needed after that afternoon of putrid football watching.

Excellent, Soprano-esque gallows humor with the drunken secretary taking a John Deere to the Brit's foot. Especially the artierial spray everywhere. Joan was awesome, as always. I'm assuming she asks for her job back next week. And I must say, despite the existance of internet porn and Cinemax, my weekend highlight might have been Joan sitting on her couch in the apartment in that dress that showed off The Ultimate Cleavage.

Loved the scene at the end when Sally freaked out by finding the Barbie she chucked out the window sitting Chucky-like on her dresser. Dan's scene talking to her about her baby brother at the end was perfect.

FUDU wrote:If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, its a duck.

Best episode of he season tonight, finally.

Cooper really cornered Don at the end.

And here I was quietly laughing while thinking to myself "f@ck a duck!"

Great episode...might have been perfect had they showed less of Betty (who is truly getting on my nerves worse than a SoulDawg QB post), and used those scenes to show Joan.

Cooper calling out Don was classic. I had forgoten that Bert knows about the Dick Whitman name change.

Yeah, this episode is a prime example of the greatness of this show. I bet 90% of people watching forgot about the whole Cooper/name incident in season 1 but outta no where it comes back to make a major change to the show. I love shows like this with storyline that arc the entire length of the series.

I really underestimated how much Joan brings to this show but she shined last night and I hope she is seen more going forward. Excellent character

I like Betty and her storyline, when comparing where she is at versuse where Don is at, its an interesting story.

Oh, and the episode one week prior, with the lawn mower, was unreal. Thats a jump the shark kinda moment on other shows but Weiner did a great job keeping it from being too over the top.

“Baseball is like church. Many attend but few understand.”- Wes Westrum

"The future is like a Japanese game show, we have no idea whats going on." - Tracy Jordan

"Gentlemen, Chicolini here may talk like an idiot and look like an idiot, but don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot."-Rufus T. Firefly

JB wrote:It is obvious to me that old Gene was "touchin on" Sally, as some use the term. Pretty sick, pretty sad. But every hint in the world Sally was abused is there.

I just wonder how it'll all come out in the plot. Will it split Don and Betty as she won't deal with reality?

BTW - Peter is a mad man, nailin' the nanny next door.

I was wondering about that a little.

I think it might even go so far as Betty being abused at some point by somebody, maybe even dad.

I cannot stand Peter.

(Feel like Seinfeld in the Melrose lie detector episode).

Right on, I loathe Peter as well. He takes away valuable screen time for Joan. God, she is crying out for a nice, long multi-episode arc.

Werent there subtle references to Betty being abused as well earlier this season or the end of season 2? I cant remember the episode or anything but I really thought that was hinted earlier at one point. Gotta go back and watch the seasons again.

“Baseball is like church. Many attend but few understand.”- Wes Westrum

"The future is like a Japanese game show, we have no idea whats going on." - Tracy Jordan

"Gentlemen, Chicolini here may talk like an idiot and look like an idiot, but don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot."-Rufus T. Firefly

JB wrote:It is obvious to me that old Gene was "touchin on" Sally, as some use the term. Pretty sick, pretty sad. But every hint in the world Sally was abused is there.

I just wonder how it'll all come out in the plot. Will it split Don and Betty as she won't deal with reality?

BTW - Peter is a mad man, nailin' the nanny next door.

I was wondering about that a little.

I think it might even go so far as Betty being abused at some point by somebody, maybe even dad.

I cannot stand Peter.

(Feel like Seinfeld in the Melrose lie detector episode).

Right on, I loathe Peter as well. He takes away valuable screen time for Joan. God, she is crying out for a nice, long multi-episode arc.

Werent there subtle references to Betty being abused as well earlier this season or the end of season 2? I cant remember the episode or anything but I really thought that was hinted earlier at one point. Gotta go back and watch the seasons again.

Yes.

And that's why she's so bogus to Sally, and so hot / cold to the smooth one. watch. She'll blame or not believe Sally, and Don will go postal. Postal. The season will end with them splitting up. Book it. Everyone in this show has a deep, dark, f'ed up secret that shapes them that they try to escape, but can not.

I hate Peter so much I love his smarmy Pee Wee Herman ass as part of the story line. Love him getting punked. He's the Wile E Coyote of the show. I also want to see the gay / but married line of that one side bar creative charecter go somewhere. What a train wreck.

And that's why she's so bogus to Sally, and so hot / cold to the smooth one. watch. She'll blame or not believe Sally, and Don will go postal. Postal. The season will end with them splitting up. Book it. Everyone in this show has a deep, dark, f'ed up secret that shapes them that they try to escape, but can not.

I hate Peter so much I love his smarmy Pee Wee Herman ass as part of the story line. Love him getting punked. He's the Wile E Coyote of the show. I also want to see the gay / but married line of that one side bar creative charecter go somewhere. What a train wreck.

Good analogy with Peter and Wile E Coyote.

They've got to go back at some point with Sal needing to come out of the closet. I personally thought that was some of the best writing and acting of the season, when Sal didn't want sex with his wife, but wanted to flounce all around the bedroom when telling her about the diet soda commercial he was going to direct. You could see in his wife's eyes that the light finally went on with her, and she could barely mask her horror in realizing what Sal really is.

Plus you have the sale of Sterling-Cooper, with Don having zero leverage now that he has signed a contract.

Last three episodes are going to intense (and I still think the teacher is going to go a bit cuckoo-koo).

Oh yeah, that teacher is going to go bat shit crazy. Perhaps she tells Betty about the affair although I could see it being Don and Betty finding out about each others affairs at the same time.

Last 3 episodes should be great. Where the hell has this season gone? Overall, I like the season. They have introduced a lot of "change" without it all be readily apparent on the surface. Best show on tv, no doubt..

“Baseball is like church. Many attend but few understand.”- Wes Westrum

"The future is like a Japanese game show, we have no idea whats going on." - Tracy Jordan

"Gentlemen, Chicolini here may talk like an idiot and look like an idiot, but don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot."-Rufus T. Firefly

How long do you think the teacher waited in the car? I was hoping she'd knock on the door!

I totally thought she would knock on the door and make Don's nightmare even worse. I am glad she didnt though. It would have been slightly cliche and more importantly it leaves open the storyline making you wonder whether she will go bat shit crazy at sometime in the future.

Joan was awesome in this episode, I was cracking up when she broke that vase over her husband's head. With him joining the Army, its setting up nicely for him to die off or become heavily traumatized in Vietnam.

With only 2 episodes left and the episode ending Oct 31, 1963, I wonder how the JFK assassination will be worked into the storyline..

In any case, I think this has been a strong season and I have enjoyed it as much as the previous 2 seasons, if not more.

“Baseball is like church. Many attend but few understand.”- Wes Westrum

"The future is like a Japanese game show, we have no idea whats going on." - Tracy Jordan

"Gentlemen, Chicolini here may talk like an idiot and look like an idiot, but don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot."-Rufus T. Firefly

Fantastic episode. Like someone mentioned, great performances from Hamm and Jones. You could see the panic on Don's face as Betty asked him to open the desk drawer. And then the scene in the bedroom. Just a great episode.

Divorce for Betty & Don? I mean isn't that about the time in our country that divorce rates really went on the rise.

Very interesting to see the creators POV on all the different angles of the Kennedy assassination and its different impact on so many individuals.

Peggy & Duck makes sense from that stand point that he has been courting her business wise and women on the quick rise back then often had to deal with the rep of having to sleep to get to the top, despite Peggy being really good in the biz.

I'm a bit confused as to what they are doing with Joan right now.

Criminals in this town used to believe in things...honor, respect."I heard your dog is sick, so bought you this shovel"

Divorce for Betty & Don? I mean isn't that about the time in our country that divorce rates really went on the rise.

Very interesting to see the creators POV on all the different angles of the Kennedy assassination and its different impact on so many individuals.

Peggy & Duck makes sense from that stand point that he has been courting her business wise and women on the quick rise back then often had to deal with the rep of having to sleep to get to the top, despite Peggy being really good in the biz.

I'm a bit confused as to what they are doing with Joan right now.

I agree on all accounts.. not sure what they are doing with Joan other than not using her or her character to the fullest. Gotta be a few more minutes of screen time for her somewhere..

The whole Don/Betty thing is interesting as he still loves her but she no longer loves him.

I thought the whole wedding hall scene was well done and Roger shined..

All in all, great episode and they worked in the JFK issue very well.

Next 2 episodes should be interesting as everything comes tumbling down..

“Baseball is like church. Many attend but few understand.”- Wes Westrum

"The future is like a Japanese game show, we have no idea whats going on." - Tracy Jordan

"Gentlemen, Chicolini here may talk like an idiot and look like an idiot, but don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot."-Rufus T. Firefly

I thought when Duck turned the TV off and proceeded to get busy with Peggy that people would basically go about their day. But Christ did it disrupt everything. Good call to those predicting the ruined wedding. Loved how the Campbells got all self-righteous and made it all about their feelings.

As for Joan, the writers are pretty much working up another go 'round with Roger aren't they? Marital issues on both sides, Roger keeps calling her. Seems perfectly set up.

metalhead9x9 wrote:I thought when Duck turned the TV off and proceeded to get busy with Peggy that people would basically go about their day. But Christ did it disrupt everything. Good call to those predicting the ruined wedding. Loved how the Campbells got all self-righteous and made it all about their feelings.

As for Joan, the writers are pretty much working up another go 'round with Roger aren't they? Marital issues on both sides, Roger keeps calling her. Seems perfectly set up.

jack_tors wrote: I agree on all accounts.. not sure what they are doing with Joan other than not using her or her character to the fullest. Gotta be a few more minutes of screen time for her somewhere..

The whole Don/Betty thing is interesting as he still loves her but she no longer loves him.

I thought the whole wedding hall scene was well done and Roger shined..

All in all, great episode and they worked in the JFK issue very well.

Next 2 episodes should be interesting as everything comes tumbling down..

Yeah...but there is only ONE more episode (Nov. 8).

Bummer...but I am looking forward to watching Jim Caviezel and Ian McKellen in AMC's revisioning of "The Prisoner" starting 11/15.

jack_tors wrote: I agree on all accounts.. not sure what they are doing with Joan other than not using her or her character to the fullest. Gotta be a few more minutes of screen time for her somewhere..

The whole Don/Betty thing is interesting as he still loves her but she no longer loves him.

I thought the whole wedding hall scene was well done and Roger shined..

All in all, great episode and they worked in the JFK issue very well.

Next 2 episodes should be interesting as everything comes tumbling down..

Yeah...but there is only ONE more episode (Nov. 8).

Bummer...but I am looking forward to watching Jim Caviezel and Ian McKellen in AMC's revisioning of "The Prisoner" starting 11/15.

jack_tors wrote: I agree on all accounts.. not sure what they are doing with Joan other than not using her or her character to the fullest. Gotta be a few more minutes of screen time for her somewhere..

The whole Don/Betty thing is interesting as he still loves her but she no longer loves him.

I thought the whole wedding hall scene was well done and Roger shined..

All in all, great episode and they worked in the JFK issue very well.

Next 2 episodes should be interesting as everything comes tumbling down..

Yeah...but there is only ONE more episode (Nov. 8).

Bummer...but I am looking forward to watching Jim Caviezel and Ian McKellen in AMC's revisioning of "The Prisoner" starting 11/15.

Is this the prequil to the Passion of the Christ?

You owe me a pop. LMAO

...and a pizza.

Criminals in this town used to believe in things...honor, respect."I heard your dog is sick, so bought you this shovel"

What a great ending to the season. Did not see this possibility coming, with Lane 'firing' everyone so that they could start up a new, leaner "SterlingCooperDraperPryce", taking all the cool kids with them. Especially Joan.

Buh Bye, Betty. I think next year she does get married to Henry, and we deal with Don starting anew and splitting custody of the kids. My next guess would be that Henry dies before the end of next season.

I would wonder if Sal would be back as the new art director...but being that Lucky Strike is their cash cow...I'm not sure how.

So does Don end up sleeping with Peggy next season once the divorce is final? Wouldn't surprise me.

Pete with more "power" will be fun (damn little weasel). I like what they've done with his wife Trudy, however...she's turned into one of my favorites on the show, and may be just what Pete needs to stop being such a little pain-in-the-ass

I wonder if Conrad Hilton will be a major player next year, and the big money account that they need.

And the best part? Season 4 will start in June...not September (like this year).