Did you enjoy the style and quality of tennis?It was a real turnoff for me.What did interest me was whether or not history would be made by Murray taking the crown.

I did enjoy some of the play. I think both players are head and shoulders above the pack (apart from Nadal, Federer has been on the decline for a year or two, but he still can muster some quality play as well). They both play very high quality, high percentage tennis. They are very disciplined ground stroking machines. They are fair at the net, but not great. They are incredibly fit, and serious about being the best they can be. I respect that.But no overall, it was pretty boring, as is most of tennis these days. I still downloaded the match for my collection.

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Did you enjoy the style and quality of tennis?It was a real turnoff for me.What did interest me was whether or not history would be made by Murray taking the crown.

I did enjoy some of the play. I think both players are head and shoulders above the pack (apart from Nadal, Federer has been on the decline for a year or two, but he still can muster some quality play as well). They both play very high quality, high percentage tennis. They are very disciplined ground stroking machines. They are fair at the net, but not great. They are incredibly fit, and serious about being the best they can be. I respect that.But no overall, it was pretty boring, as is most of tennis these days. I still downloaded the match for my collection.

Agreed.Nole appeared to be off his game.Murray wasn't great, but good enough.There were some amazing shots and points, but it just didn't work for me aside from the fact that Andy was gunning for tennis history.

Babs the interest generated in the UK is now massive,that in it's self is enough if you live in the UK.Janowicz looks to have a great game for such a big man,can he be better than Potty?(maybe)can Janowicz body take the hard work that needs to be put in today?

I did not come back on the (see what i did there) & i don't go in for all that.

Babs the interest generated in the UK is now massive,that in it's self is enough if you live in the UK.Janowicz looks to have a great game for such a big man,can he be better than Potty?(maybe)can Janowicz body take the hard work that needs to be put in today?

I did not come back on the (see what i did there) & i don't go in for all that.

Maybe that will motivate some younger players to take up the game and strenthen overll interest in the sport, at least in the U.K. Prospects here in the U.S. seem rather bleak at the moment.

Babs the interest generated in the UK is now massive,that in it's self is enough if you live in the UK.Janowicz looks to have a great game for such a big man,can he be better than Potty?(maybe)can Janowicz body take the hard work that needs to be put in today?

I did not come back on the (see what i did there) & i don't go in for all that.

Maybe that will motivate some younger players to take up the game and strenthen overll interest in the sport, at least in the U.K. Prospects here in the U.S. seem rather bleak at the moment.

@ some point that will change in the USA Monster,younger players will take up the challenge,with all the money the can be made in today's game.

Babs the interest generated in the UK is now massive,that in it's self is enough if you live in the UK.Janowicz looks to have a great game for such a big man,can he be better than Potty?(maybe)can Janowicz body take the hard work that needs to be put in today?

I did not come back on the (see what i did there) & i don't go in for all that.

Maybe that will motivate some younger players to take up the game and strenthen overll interest in the sport, at least in the U.K. Prospects here in the U.S. seem rather bleak at the moment.

@ some point that will change in the USA Monster,younger players will take up the challenge,with all the money the can be made in today's game.

Will here in Asia, most people watch tennis only for Federer and Nadal. It just like people watch golf for Tiger Wood. I really think it is cultural differences between West and East. At least in Taiwan or China, people don't have habit for doing or watching sport on TV because of our life style. People are stick in office or factory for hours everyday. Another key factor is that tennis really is not popular sport in both countries. In result, most people who have interest in tennis about men tennis only know big names, Federer and Nadal at this stage. At the moment, Djokovic/Murray match up really generate much less interest than Federer/Nadal match up here.

I guess tennis world need someone like Li Na in men tennis world if they want to expand to East Asia at this stage. Whoever succeed in big sports will draw a lot of attention from his/her compatriots.

Babs the interest generated in the UK is now massive,that in it's self is enough if you live in the UK.Janowicz looks to have a great game for such a big man,can he be better than Potty?(maybe)can Janowicz body take the hard work that needs to be put in today?

I did not come back on the (see what i did there) & i don't go in for all that.

Maybe that will motivate some younger players to take up the game and strenthen overll interest in the sport, at least in the U.K. Prospects here in the U.S. seem rather bleak at the moment.

@ some point that will change in the USA Monster,younger players will take up the challenge,with all the money the can be made in today's game.

As I've mentioned before, I think American players just aren't hungry enough and the system in place is geared toward instant gratification instead of long term player development. There are so many other opportunities for top athletes to succeed at more popular, lucrative, and easier sports than tennis. It's a no-brainer. I figure it will take another father like Mr. Williams or Mr. Agassi to usher in the next American phenom.

Isner did just that for 2 hours. It's the difference between going for your shots consistently because you are instictively offensive or sitting back and working your way into a point hoping your opponent blinks first.

Isner did just that for 2 hours. It's the difference between going for your shots consistently because you are instictively offensive or sitting back and working your way into a point hoping your opponent blinks first.

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What current ATPer has both the ability and the balls to do both for an entire match?

Gymnast and Annie are one-dimensional hacks compared to Rafaelito and Roger

Piggy knows how to push and moon-ball ... I'll give you that

Awful lot of topspin for a moonball. I've seen what a moonball looks like - Agassi vs Kucera 1998 US Open the prime example, when Agassi hit moonballs to change the pace of the match when Kucera was thrashing him - and Nadal is the last player anyone can accuse of moonballing. Murray is the closest to a moonballer of all the top 4, as he sometimes hits shots with absolutely no penetration, no pace and no topspin. However not even he is a mooballer, as his soft shots are not high enough. A moonball is so HIGH that it makes the crowd laugh (as they did at Agassi).

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“It is not too far way,” Toni Nadal told The Australian after Nadal collected the 13th major of his career by mowing down Novak Djokovic in an electrifying final of the US Open. “It is getting very, very close for Rafa to be level with Roger or more.”

I'm just goofing with Tio who is a new member here and seems to be a bit obsessed with Rafito . Rafa is actually playing more aggressively since he came back. that's one of the key to his latest success.

^ That's ok. I really just wanted to bring up the Agassi/Kucera match. I wish that match was on youtube. One of the coolest matches I've ever seen

Interesting thing about Murray....he has played Raonic 3 times, and Raonic won 2 of them. Murray beat him at the US Open, while Raonic won at Barcelona and Tokyo.

Federer leads Raonic 4-0, but Raonic has won 3 sets. They played a final set tie-breaker at Halle, and also at Madrid.

Very different to when Raonic plays Nadal (Nadal leads 4-0 and hasn't dropped a set).

Djokovic and Raonic haven't met yet.

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“It is not too far way,” Toni Nadal told The Australian after Nadal collected the 13th major of his career by mowing down Novak Djokovic in an electrifying final of the US Open. “It is getting very, very close for Rafa to be level with Roger or more.”