Indiana was a complete disaster when he accepted the job after Kelvin Sampson resigned. They had walk ons starting games. Blaming those first 2-3 years on him is a joke. He's won two outright Big Ten titles in four years. Michigan has done that once since 1986. They've underperformed in the tournament no doubt but let's see how they do this year.

As an IU alumnus and a huge IU bball fan, the net cutting pissed me and all my friends off beyond belief. Indiana may not be a top 5 program anymore but certainly we're top 10. Only 2 schools have more national titles than us, we do not cut down nets after a loss and certainly not for just a B10 title. That was more embarrassing than getting bounced because we didn't know how to execute against a 2-3 zone.

I still will never forgive him for blowing a wide open pick and roll pass against Wisconsin the the Big Ten tournament. I believe the game was tied and a WIDDE open basket was there for the taking instead he turned the wrong way and the ball goes out of bounds. Spike was pissed.

I'm not happy for Indiana but I am happy that MSU gets no part of the conference title. Unfortunately, no team in the country (other than Kansas) is playing better than MSU right now and I think they will pound Indiana in the Big Ten tournament just like they pounded them a week ago.

I'm not comfortable with how angry Iowa is going to be coming to Crisler. Then again, I'm rarely comfortable watching our team against ANYBODY.

The only time it means anything is when someone who normally wouldn't be dancing wins it. Other than that, it means zero. The Big 10 didn't even start doing them until 98. I don't know why you even pointed out that MSU won it that year. We beat them twice in the regular season and won the Big 10 by 3 games.

First off, one of our B10 championships under Beilein (the one where we went 13-5 and shared it with OSU and MSU), we had Burke as a freshman, Hardaway, Douglas, Morgan, and Novak as our starters. We have absolutely seen and will see more talent than that. Second, since that year, we have 3 fewer B10 losses than MSU and have the same B10 record as OSU, and that includes all the "bleh" years. You're right, I have no idea what they were thinking

2 eventual draft picks (that were a freshman and a sophomore) and the rest of the team not talented at all (which included Matt Vogrich, walk-on Eso Akunne, and Blake McLimans as main contributors off the bench) is highly likely to be replicated. I'm not saying anyone will match Burke and Hardaway, but we won the B10 with those two as young talent and pretty much nothing else. So your claim that we will never have success because of recruiting is wrong. We didn't have the all-star recruiting class until the next year.

Also, since Beilein has been coach here, he has 2 B10 titles, MSU has 3 and OSU has 3. I guess that 1 B10 championship in 9 years is what separates "consistent" from "inconsistent." Great point.

Fire Beilein because he can't make as many final fours as Izzo and Matta! We can bring all those other coaches who have been to multiple final fours and not just one like Beilein has. Like........

Do I like that MSU and OSU have had great success in basketball? No, I would love it if they sucked. But your question is both patronizing and stupid. If you want to be pissed off because one of the best coaches in the country has coached at our rival's school for 20 years and your expectations are that only a better coach is acceptable, go for it. You will be constantly disappointed. Every program in the country looks up to Izzo with regards to final four appearances save bluebloods like Kentucky and Duke and Kansas, so have fun being pissed off we don't have the best team in America ever single year. You're an unintelligent fan if you think it's a good idea to get pissed off in basketball when you don't make it to he final four every year.

The team right now has zero seniors (only Caris), starts 3 sophomores and two Juniors, and has most every contributor off the bench a freshman or a sophomore, and we have a chance to get 11 B10 wins this weekend. If we can beat Iowa, we will have the same number of B10 wins as them, and after they beat the shit out of State twice, everyone was calling for their championship run at the end of the season. The jacking off about how good we could be when the current team is young and only getting better is ridiculous. Judging your coach by how he does in a single elimination tournament and comparing to arguably the best torurnament coach in the last 40 years is equally ridiculous.

You could copy and paste your argument for Hoke in 2013...''but the team is young!'' That is not and never will be an excuse. Everyone on here after 2013 said ''Beilein is a better coach than Matta!'' Well...Matta sure accomplished more in 9 years at OSU than Beilein has. I think John Beilein is a good coach and I appreciate what he's done but if you think he's better than middle of the Big Ten and occasionally a great run you're kidding yourself. I kinda think the point of sports is to win championships and not finnish in the middle of the big ten the majority of the time. We already did that with Amaker.

Hoke is nothing like Beilein. Football is nothing like basketball. It is stupid to even bring that up. But I'm not surprised. Most think that basketball success should be similar to football success and it just never has been the case and probably never will. Those same people who think that always want to fire the coach and are always disappointed with the season because it didn't meet their expectations. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

And those people on 2013 were being homers and unreasonable. I think Matta is dirty as shit and one of the reasons he is a step above Beilein. And if you want to completely ignore the history of our basketball program and fire our third winningest coach, go for it. Then we can go out and get that amazing coach who has been to multiple final fours. I'm still waiting to hear who that is

MSU had less basketball success than we did before Izzo...don't tell me it isn't possible to win like we do in football! And you realize we are severely lagging in the success department in both sports for basically 20 years right? That just may have something to do with why we always want to fire the coach. No...it's not that we've lost to OSU every year but three since the turn of the century in football and they've played in 4 national title games or that MSU has been to six final fours in basketball...we just like to complain.

You keep thinking that Matta is dirty...just like every other coach that consistently beats us. Usually basketball programs tend to hire up and coming coaches that turn into great ones. That's not my job to decide who that is but Archie Miller certainly looks promising. It worked otu for Texas with Shaka Smart.

it's fine that you are happy with mediocre seasons. He caught lightning in a bottle 2 out of his 9 years. I'm not saying I'm more of a fan than you because I want UM bball to be on par with MSU, Duke, UK, KU and UNC. If you're happy with making the tourney 5 times in 10 years and getting past the first weekend 2 out of those 5, more power to you.

"Lightning in a bottle" is a great way to basically say he doesn't get credit for any good seasons and gets all the blame for any mediocre seasons.

By the way, Izzo went 7 straight years without a B10 championship and placed 5th, 3rd, 2nd, 2nd, 6th, 7th, and 4th in the B10 standings and was bounced from the tourney in the first weekend 4 times in those 7 years. All you heard from Michigan fans was how tough it is to be continuously good unless you are a blueblood and how good a coach he was. It's amazing to me how little respect our coach gets

He had 2 great years when he had great players. He's not getting great players. Is he your uncle or something? Your neighbor? Whose fault is it that he consistently whiffs on program changers? Whose fault is it that my 9 year old daughter's bball team plays better D? Whose fault is it that we get blown out by teams with a pulse?

Just save yourself the time arguing. there is a contingent here who don't like Beilein and see his current struggles as proof he was never a good coach, and whatever evidence you may have to refute it will be ignored.

I didn't hear a whole lot of people calling for Carr's head after 2006 is all I'm saying. Very little has changed about Beilein from a coaching and recruiting perspective; if you want to fire him because he's "lost it" or whatever, then you are focusing on the last 2 years. Which is fine, but if he bounces back and the team makes, I don't know, the Sweet 16 next year, then I expect those same people to call even louder for his head because he's a year older.

see this team next year - adding whatever freshmen - as being a lock for the tourney? I sure as hell don't. The D won't fix itself and our "bigs" won't suddenly become Shaq. Or even Shaq's jock strap, for that matter.

What still gets me is that, for a few interesting minutes, Iowa looked like they could very well steal that game albeit barely. Of course, just as I was thinking that, Iowa strings together several awful offensive possessions in a row, culminating in Indiana going back up by five again after some back and forth with a one or two point lead. Still, it was a pretty good game for the most part, I thought.

helps our cause..Of coursze they want to win..BUT whats to play for now? They just got eliminated for a title they will be down and we will be desperate for a win and HOPEFULLY Rise to the occasion and salvage our tourney hopes..I believe a win here might be enough but a first round BTT is essential to leave no doubt