Is there a cap penalty for releasing players? People talk casually about signing players, then cutting them during the summer or preseason, but I thought there was some kind of penalty.

That is only the case when a portion of the contract is guaranteed or paid out in a signing bonus which is usually not the case especially with the players we are talking about here ( in particular Pashos or Trueblood ) there would be no penalty.

From 2011, and this particular one was done after week 14 of that year, so not the entire season. This is rankings by PFF for a stat that they call PBE (Pass Blocking Efficiency). Pashos rates out as the 6th best tackle at pass blocking when this was done. This is obviously prior to his injury, so that is still a question mark as to whether he can regain his form. Would also like to see what he rates out as in the run. Its possible he is a reverse Polumbus, good at pass blocking but suffers in run blocking.

Drop to the worst, Look at 52 and the ones tied at 54.

Anybody a member there at PFF? Would be interested in seeing end of the year results from 2011 across the board for Tackles to see where Pashos rated out as.

Edit: This would have been after the injury but prior to him having surgery to correct the injury. So he was rating out as the 6th best pass blocker while dealing with a torn ligament in his foot.

From 2011, and this particular one was done after week 14 of that year, so not the entire season. This is rankings by PFF for a stat that they call PBE (Pass Blocking Efficiency). Pashos rates out as the 6th best tackle at pass blocking when this was done. This is obviously prior to his injury, so that is still a question mark as to whether he can regain his form. Would also like to see what he rates out as in the run. Its possible he is a reverse Polumbus, good at pass blocking but suffers in run blocking.

Drop to the worst, Look at 52 and the ones tied at 54.

Anybody a member there at PFF? Would be interested in seeing end of the year results from 2011 across the board for Tackles to see where Pashos rated out as.

Actually his injury occurred in the last preseason game of 2011. So your stat, in context, ranks Pashos as the sixth best pass blocking tackle, having played for 14 weeks (12 starts) with a ruptured tendon in his foot. That's a badass tackle.

If he returns to form (that's if), we have a good RT already on the roster.

Polumbus didnt play that bad last year. There are worse things that could happen than Tyler Polumbus.

Who knows, he could improve as well, just like anyone else could. Maybe he is all pro next year, with the Super Awesome Pashos breathing down his neck, making him move over to the left side while we slide the lesser of our tackles Trent over to the right!!!!!!!!

Actually his injury occurred in the last preseason game of 2011. So your stat, in context, ranks Pashos as the sixth best pass blocking tackle, having played for 14 weeks (12 starts) with a ruptured tendon in his foot. That's a badass tackle.

If he returns to form (that's if), we have a good RT already on the roster.

I realized that after I posted it, I added an edit in to explain that exact thing.

Polumbus didnt play that bad last year. There are worse things that could happen than Tyler Polumbus.

Who knows, he could improve as well, just like anyone else could. Maybe he is all pro next year, with the Super Awesome Pashos breathing down his neck, making him move over to the left side while we slide the lesser of our tackles Trent over to the right!!!!!!!!

If those stats are correct, then Polumbus indeed, didn't play bad last year. 5 sacks given up, isn't really that bad. I think that number may have been a bit more had we not had such a mobile QB.

Or you can look at it as having a mobile QB, he gave up 5 sacks when defenders aren't always rushing the passer and/or going to the QB at full speed, should he hand the ball off or run it himself. Mobile QBs tend to make their OL look better than what it is because they run out of a lot of would be sacks.

Exactly. We could do worse than Polumbus, but at the same time when we were in obvious passing situations and couldn't hide behind the read option, our O-line could not pass protect. I'm hoping Polumbus gets better, but would suspect a different RT is going to be better.

If we bring back Hall we are not improving as a secondary. In fact its more likely we are taking a step back at the CB position.

We're improving the secondary compared to this instant, yes?

Our corners aren't the real weakness of the secondary anyway. They're average cover corners who play our unique style of defense (similar to Steelers with pressure out of the secondary more than most) quite well. The FS play was bad, and Haslett's set up/positioning didn't help any, especially early in the season.

Bottom line I think is that a starting caliber FS will help the secondary far more than an upgrade at corner, especially factoring in the question of how well any of the FA corners fit our scheme.