People act like just because you don't have insurance you're automatically "leeching" off the system. The fact is many people go years without the need for medical care. And there's nothing saying those people don't start buying insurance when they turn 30.

Yes, they say "I have no need for medical care". what happens if they get cancer or wreck their car? They are still leeching off the system.

They have the knowledge that if they get sick or have a wreck, they will receive care.

If we had a system in place that denied admittance to a hospital, clinic or the ER without insurance. How many people would not buy insurance? Risk dying on the side of the road in the cars after a wreck?

I worked in a level 1 trauma ER for 5 years. I would guessestimate that maybe 10% had insurance. And that was real expensive bills being racked up. Who paid the bill for the 90% that leeched off the system? We all know the answer......the taxpayer.

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Yes, they say "I have no need for medical care". what happens if they get cancer or wreck their car? They are still leeching off the system.

They have the knowledge that if they get sick or have a wreck, they will receive care.

If we had a system in place that denied admittance to a hospital, clinic or the ER without insurance. How many people would not buy insurance? Risk dying on the side of the road in the cars after a wreck?

I worked in a level 1 trauma ER for 5 years. I would guessestimate that maybe 10% had insurance. Who paid the bill for the 90% that leeched off the system? We all know the answer......the taxpayer.

I enjoyed the hell out of that job. Lost count of how many lives I saved. Probably would have stayed in the field till I retired. But, when I started bringing the blood and pain home with me, I was doomed to move on.

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Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.

I enjoyed the hell out of that job. Lost count of how many lives I saved. Probably would have stayed in the field till I retired. But, when I started bringing the blood and pain home with me, I was doomed to move on.

Can I just say, I HATE that till is the proper contraction of until. It should be 'til. Till already has a meaning, to overturn earth.

Yes, they say "I have no need for medical care". what happens if they get cancer or wreck their car? They are still leeching off the system.

They have the knowledge that if they get sick or have a wreck, they will receive care.

If we had a system in place that denied admittance to a hospital, clinic or the ER without insurance. How many people would not buy insurance? Risk dying on the side of the road in the cars after a wreck?

I worked in a level 1 trauma ER for 5 years. I would guessestimate that maybe 10% had insurance. And that was real expensive bills being racked up. Who paid the bill for the 90% that leeched off the system? We all know the answer......the taxpayer.

None of that really does anything to show my post was incorrect. Plenty of people without insurance aren't, "leeching" anything.

I worked in a level 1 trauma ER for 5 years. I would guessestimate that maybe 10% had insurance. And that was real expensive bills being racked up. Who paid the bill for the 90% that leeched off the system? We all know the answer......the taxpayer.

Either you were in the most unique one-off ER in the USA or your guestimate is way way way off. The ACTUAL numbers show that far and away most emergency room visitors have insurance. Flip your numbers because REALITY is that the uninsured account for less then 20% of ER visits. The largest group represented in ERs? Those with Medicaid (or qualify for it and are too dumb to know).

You never know when you're going to need insurance, but it shouldn't be the first part of treatment.

I'll give a real life example.

This weekend, my youngest child tripped and fell backwards over a fire ring into a fire pit.

When we got to the hospital, the first thing after the name and very basic information requested.....insurance paperwork. it pissed me off. It pissed me off almost as much as waiting 45 minutes for pain meds that were never brought to us. After deciding I wasn't willing to wait an hour for the right people to show up capable of inserting an IV into an injured child....I checked out and drove the 3hrs to the place we needed to be anyway. The only real concern expressed...."if you choose to leave, your insurance probably won't cover this service".

Well...after waiting an hour for no pain meds I wasn't interested in waiting another one before going to the place I got the child to myself 2hrs quicker than they would have.

Heaven help the insurance person that calls to tell me they're not paying.

So to answer your question Bigredobamafan....Obama care has done precisely jack and shit to repair any real problems in the insurance and medical fields. Only made them worse.

I have no clue on their numbers so maybe they are way off the norm... or maybe what you perceived as uninsured were actually people who qualified for Medicaid but didn't know it. I have no clue. I do however know the numbers nationwide and it is under 20% of ER visits are by uninsured people.

The majority of ER ABUSE is by Medicaid recipients. Obamacare does nothing to address this and likely will only exacerbate things. The entire premise that there will be ER savings from Obamacare is a myth.

The majority of ER ABUSE is by Medicaid recipients. Obamacare does nothing to address this and likely will only exacerbate things. The entire premise that there will be ER savings from Obamacare is a myth.

It is not a myth, if you understood the facts correctly , which you do not.