Why Apple Sucks – 26 Concise Reasons

An article from TechRadar does an excellent job of skewering the corporation that is all style and no substance. Apple fan boys may get upset, but normal people will agree with nearly every one of the 26 points.

Lol, I hate using Apple products for a lot of reasons. They try to make their products “simple” when in actuality they are just incapable. You pay twice as much for a mac with the same power as a PC. When you have a problem on a pc, you can fix it. When you have a problem on a mac, you restart it or send it off to get repairs because you have no idea what to do about it since apple is too “simple” to let you know why it’s not working correctly. Apple only cares about themselves and goes out of their way to make sure that once you buy an Apple product, you are stuck paying them more and more money through lack of compatibility with non-Apple products. I have honestly tried to like the macbook. I’ve tried using one for a while to see if I could get used to it, but there are so many things about it that just pissed me off. PC is just so much better. I’ve been using PC since I was 5 and never had any serious problems on the PC. Using a mac for 30 minutes pissed me off more than I’ve ever been pissed off from using a PC. PC is way more compatible and customizable, not to mention a much better option for gaming. The Mac looks nice, but it really can’t do anything better than the PC.

I think most people who like mac are just dumb people who don’t know how to use a computer. That’s why mac users like apple so much and also rant about windows’ problems because they cause problems when trying to use windows. Mac is good for them because the mac doesn’t cause as many problems. It’s like taking a child away from the driver’s seat of a car and giving him a toy car instead. A shiny, white toy car.

I used both, and my Windows PC beat the Mac in After Effects render time.

My PC beat the Mac in 3D simulation and presentations.

Mac will run nicely until you tell it to run something complex. The Mac user is busy making his home movies and pretty pictures, I’m busy running 3D Simulations and processing Geodatabases. I don’t use Mac because Macs have trouble running 3D and computationally heavy programs.
XP is still a beast running at a minimum 128 mb RAM

I am not sure of the crAPPLE users know that the crApple was design for people that are not too bright, you know ,easy…one button incase you get confused. But whats funny is every time I go to a iStore, I give them the iFinger by listng all the iViruses (http://www.iantivirus.com/threats/) on there biggest screen. Found that on http://blog.webanddata.com, who also talks about security issues on the crAPPLE.

Viruses actually dont have to be even produced on a crAPPLE, you can develop the applications (Viruses/Malware are applications) on Hackingtosh/VRware. It’s open season for apple users, and they cant do any about it because they dont have the technical skillset or the creativity to dodge that bullet. The fact that crApple doesnt have its own OS base, its using UNIX and in additon its running on a PC…because INTEL is PC, makes it even easier to maniplulate the system. All hardware in a crAPPLE are infact PC products. So, its easy to get around that front end/crAPPLE display. Its open season and thats why there are ANTI-VIRUS Products sold in the iSTORE. If you cant figure out that TOSHIBA, SONY etc. produce better products, then your a sheep that being hammered from behind.

If you think PC sucks, stop using PC products, every time you do, just know your a hippocrit, you r full of it. The web, banking, Databases, Smooth Streaming, CGI Special Effects like 3D Max, Mia, even fighter jets use PC’s, like the 2 Billion Dollar Fighters, Stealth Bombers…actually, I saw that on History Channel.

You will learn, that crAPPLE is CRAP. Just an interface with no useful functionality except sure the web and type your paper on MS WORD!…crAPPLE people are so full of it. Fact is its open season on the iOS and china and russia and other ianti-virus manifacturers that well, produce there a virus here and there to boost there sales are focused on the crAPPLE Suckers.

I’ve been in IT since the early 80’s — been dealing with Apple and the PC since both were little more than b.w TV’s with typewriters attached to them.

It’s been fun watching Apple rail against the evil might of Microsoft, bemoan the ignorance of the masses who failed to comprehend the true majesty of Apple and/or NeXT’s innovative technology, etc.

Then of course Apple becomes one the most successful tech companies on the planet and become more Orwellian than the Evil Overlord their first advert warned against.

I won’t ever say Jobs and Co. aren’t just FABULOUS at seeing and setting trends. But if you’re too friggin’ dumb to realize they’re just the next in a long line of hucksters from snake oil salesmen to P.T. Barnum to L. Ron Hubbard, etc, etc, etc…nothing I can do to help you, sorry.

For all the apple knobs, why can’t I just take my iPod, plug it into my pc, and iTunes, and have the words, download library or transfer library come up? Why can’t I just plug a thumbdrive into an iPad and download the photos?The. Company sucks at simplicity. For a company that beats their chest about what an evolutionary product they have, it’s beyond frustrating why they make doing such simple things next to impossible unless you have a IT degree or countless hours with nothing else to do but experiment. Jesus h Christ, is it that hard to do such simple tasks?

JUst let,me download my music and photos without having to download an extra program or need an advanced computer degree to figure it out. Apple sucks at a lot of things, marketing not being one of these.

I hate apple just as much as I hate Microsoft… I love OpenSource and all those apple and windows lovers can go say that they can do so much with their computer and i bust in with Linux and I say I can do x10 more than you

Supported both for 20+ years through work and know one product works, one causes headaches, you may hate apple but their products are a joy compared to windows, there successful because they work simple, the wall garden is apples gem and windows headache, have some intelligence before posting, so many ignorant comments including the article

So check it out, I wanted to download a file from my google docs account to my ipad… can’t do it. Then later I wanted to upload a photo I took on my Ipad to google docs… can’t do it. Then I figured maybe I can use my wifi connect to transfer the photo to my pc… can’t do it. So nowadays I just let my kids play with the ipad and I bought a real tablet that runs Android. Guess what, I can do all those things I needed to do that the ipad couldn’t. Peace.

I ran both MacOSX and Windows 7 on a Macbook. The performance between the two was tremendous, Dungeon Defenders on Mac performed horribly with extremely irritating screeching sounds whilst Windows ran the game perfectly without any hassle.

Windows has a lot more functionality, the only thing I can approve of in Mac is the sleek design of the machine, and that Forrest Gump owns the company.

Also there browsing tool is the most crappie one that you could find SAFARI it EXTREMLY slow and you can’t get anything accomplished on it. also the ICloud that they have, acer had something called acer cloud THREE YEARS before they made iCloud. So yep that four reasons WHY APPLE SUCKS!!!!!!! Peace off but not apple

My thoughts exactly. I have been an Apple tech before for 9+ years. They distill so much confidence in people about their products being superior to anything else, that their customer base never takes the time to learn a computer. I am still a firm believer that people need to spend time learning their computers. A Mac experiences file corruption as well. If you don’t believe me, boot the Mac to single user mode (Apple+A at startup) and run fsck_hfs -r /dev/rdisk0s2 (if that is your file system mount) and see what it fixes, or problems that you didn’t even know that you had. They pull the wool over your eyes and tell you that their products are perfect. That is my two cents worth.

Apple is a scared rabbit. I just purchased the Snow Loepard DVD to install on a virtual machine just to play. The only one listed on the Apple site is an upgrade, bit no where does it state it is an upgrade, and it doesn’t even have an ISP image, it has an exe file that I can run. That was a waste of $29.00. They seems to do anything to prevent you from doing what you want, you have to do everything Apples way, pay money for everything just to try it. Software isn’t like that anymore, hasn’t been in over a decade, so why is Apple still on the buy it and that is how it works, sorry you don’t like our product, but thanks for giving us your money.

I always thought PCs had there place and Apple had theirs, but the more I research the apps that are available for the Apple products the more I find that they aren’t has robust as those available for the PC. The apps are cool but they’re mostly for the consumer market, not for the business professional.

Apple is a scared rabbit. I just purchased the Snow Loepard DVD to install on a virtual machine just to play. The only one listed on the Apple site is an upgrade, but no where does it state it is an upgrade, and it doesn’t even have an ISO image, it has an exe file that I cann’t run. That was a waste of $29.00. They seem to do anything to prevent you from doing what you want, you have to do everything Apples’ way, pay money for everything just to try it. Software isn’t like that anymore, hasn’t been in over a decade, so why is Apple still on the buy it, and sorry you didn’t like our product, but thanks for giving us your money.

I always thought PCs had there place and Apple had theirs, but the more I research the apps that are available for the Apple products the more I find that they aren’t has robust as those available for the PC. The apps are cool but they’re mostly for the consumer market, not for the business professional.

First apple product purchased today for daughter. iPod touch. Got thru setup and attempted to download a free game app. “unknown error has occured” tried a reset, tried another download, more unknown errors. Never had this on two androids. Downloaded itunes and safari on pc(xp). Open itunes, error message, close itunes, another error. Reopen, error, error, error. Called the store where purchased,they don’t have a clue but say the atrix I have is twice as good as ipod. Ipod getting returned tomarrow, safari and itunes uninstalled. I saw more error messages from ipod than,…well come to think of it neither android has ever had an error message. Thats some good marketing when you can build a billion dollar corporation selling shit.

I though america has everything, why selling games and application? Apple company really sucks.I wonder how they are so desperade about peoples credit cards numbers? i dont want say much, but i want tell the entire world that apple empty devices is only good for americans and should be use in america only.And any person who doubt my words should go for apple product….i call it suicide mission.America the most greatest country in the world, but still selling games and application, while russian and indians offers free games and application for the entire world, just enter and make your dloads 100% free.Iam going back to my symbian and android phones that one will be much better than this trash[iphone4] so expensive so frustrating.Iam a nigerian my email address is isuleadamu@gmail.com incase someone has bad feelings about my comment.And i still ask apple company why everything credit card number?

i used to love apple for there customer service. It has been getting worse and worse by the month. Maybe their market share is growing and they cannot keep up the staff. But remember when I used to brag about how impressive there support staff was. Now you cannot talk to anyone on the phone or in the store without waiting for over half an hour. They have become more concerned with share priced and wall street headlines than actually providing a good product back with great support. I hope thier share prices skyrocket until the bubble burst and everyone who invested is left with nothing. Service and support, and quality got them to where they are. Now it is all about money and i hope they loose everything.

Apple sucks I spent $14 on a movie and it’s been 5 days since then and it still hasent downloaded if your looking to buy a iPod don’t waste your time and money on apple ink. They won’t get my business ever again.

I have used Apple Products from 2007 – present. Up until OS X Lion appeared on the scene, I consider OS X to be superior to Microsoft Windows XP and then Vista. Its usability is much more intuitive than windows and being based on BSD unix, it is much easier to interface to un*x / Lin*x based web servers.

For those who have used OS X Lion, it is full all intense purposes a complete and utter failure on the Apple’s part. Not since version 9 has the OS been plagued by so many missteps. There have been bugs in the package updates for the OS (i.e. 10.7.3) as well as in software addon upgrades such as iPhoto and the security holes identified in OS X java. This as irrevocably tarnished the reputation that Apple built between 2007 – 2010.

Attempting to implement iOS style functionality into a laptop environment with no touch screen is pure idiocy, though Microsoft seems to have caught on to the pure idiocy for those who have looked at Windows 8.

Since OS X Lion Server has its own share of problems. Reduced functionality, insistent corruption of the operating system permissions, inexplicable hard disk failures, and finally its only availability through an online AppStore that indefinitely links the software to your personal AppleID. That is correct, if you have purchased OS X Lion Server through the App Store, neither the software or the license is transferable to a new owner. It cannot be burned to CD and it may not be transferred to a different AppleID.

I always thought apple was way to proud of their hardware due to the pricing structure, but I never considered them to be unethical. The sales process for OS X Lion server has made me reconsider my opinion of Apple’s ethics when it comes to business practices and how they sell their software. My initial opinion was that Apple was a trend-setter in innovation, which in a lot of ways they still are, but innovating products without innovating business practices to make a product more flexible and useful does very little for the public in general and nothing more than making the life IT professional more frustrating.

Some may say that this downturn in Apple is due to the death of Steve Jobs. I would simply disagree by saying that while Steve Jobs was a unique individual, surely he was not the only visionary in the world?

I purchased the iPhone 4S approximately 6 weeks ago. I did not purchase the apple care as I was confident that between the supposed quality of apple products and that I take care of my things very well, that the phone should last at least a year.I also bought it an otterbox to protect it. A couple of days ago, I went to wipe the outside of the otterbox with a soft napkin and immediately the screen cracked from one end to another. this was not dropped. My guess is that it was climate related going from 65 degree weather to the upper 90’s, or maybe a defective phone. when I took it back to verizon to find out my options, they recommended the apple store. I took it there and made an “appointment” with the “technician” who was available in 20 minutes. He looked at it and said they dont repair it but can sell me a new phone. Even though its not even 2 months old,no warranty, plus clearly the guy who was about as much as a technician as a houseplant did not believe me that the phone was not dropped. the rest of the phone is in new condition. he said there are places that repair them ( why doesnt apple?) but could not tell me who. The vibe I got was oh well since I cant sell you anything,NEXT- what a pretentious store, when you dont repair but only replace a product, what is the point of making someone wait an extra 20 minutes? I found a cell phone repair place who replaced the screen in under an hour, good as new no thanks to apple. the moral of the story, unless you let them extort you to pay for a warranty that most other companies include, once you give them your money and go, you are SOL.

Graduating with a B.S. in Computer Engineering on 5/20, hell yeah. So it’s safe to assume I actually know what I am talking about. I’ll try to be unbiased.

Ok. All you fanboys need to shut up (both Apple and Microsoft). Apple is successful because their products are sleek and simple, end of story. That said, anyone who wants to be able to customize settings and set up everything the way THEY want should not buy a Mac. They are made to be idiot proof, which makes them “superior” to PC’s in that respect. However, this means they cannot do many things that other products have been able to do for YEARS. Also, Mac can charge whatever the hell they want. They know that the legions of technically incompetent morons who are afraid to mess with/tweak their computer will continue to buy their outrageously overpriced products because they don’t know any better. They are actually quite similar to Monster (a wire/cable company, I believe they also make the absurdly overrated Dr. Dre headphones) in this respect. Macs also use an old Unix kernel, with rock-solid stability (but this is a total ripoff, if you want a *nix OS, use an older Ubuntu or something, Gnome 2 is as close to perfect as it gets when it comes to UI, and it runs most Windows apps almost perfectly with WINE). All of this makes Macs outdated (as far as kernel optimization and speed goes) and downright clunky when it comes to advanced configuration, but also idiot proof and easy to pick up and use (although I admit, I hate the UI, it’s just unnecessarily hard and time consuming to do advanced configuration).

If you are not afraid to get your hands even a little bit dirty, a PC is much more useful, it’s as simple as that. PC’s have the (dis)advantage of a much larger user base, which gives them MUCH more cross-compatibility with other computers as well as more (and better) applications. Don’t believe me? Try to use Safari (trash), and then use Chrome, Firefox, or even the notorious (but much improved) IE, and just try to convince yourself that Safari is superior. This is why most Mac users use applications such as MS Office, because it is simply better and more universal than anything Apple can come up with. But Windows’ large user base also leads to malicious coders exploiting the OS in order to bring down a person’s computer or even steal sensitive information, but this is quite easy to avoid with some quite honestly excellent freeware security software (Malwarebytes, anyone?). However, a large user base also means MS is forced to provide it’s many super-users with better functionality and configuration options, but the flip side is that if you don’t know what you are doing, you will be banging your head against the wall for a long time and can corrupt important OS files. For example, I use my laptop all the time with no problems (other than lcd screen and headphone jack problems haha, the school laptops suck all the dicks), but my technologically-challenged mother has all sorts of software problems using a similar computer, which usually results in me fixing it.

/*For anyone who does not understand this code:
am_i_an_idiot() is a function that returns a value of 1 if you are
an idiot, and returns a value of 0 if you are not.
the code for this function is in am_i_an_idiot.c*/

if(am_i_an_idiot() == 0) //if you aren’t an idiot, buy a PC
{
go_buy_a_pc(price);
printf(“Be careful when configuring this computer!\n”)
}
else //if you are an idiot, buy a mac
{
go_buy_a_mac(2*price);
printf(“You can’t use this for advanced tasks or gaming!\n”)
}

/*This code compiles to produce an executable program with the name buy_a_computer.exe (not literally, but this is what you should consider when buying a new computer)*/

Too long; didn’t read or don’t understand my code? You really should buy a PC if you are competent enough to use it without breaking it, but if you want the absolute best computer for serious work, get real. Use GNU/Linux or Unix.

Apple products has always been desirable products ever since the ipod, but here is what started to bother me. I owned a macbook, ipad, macbook pro, iphone and numerous numbers of ipods, but I was disappointed by one incident. Apple iphone 4G was not suppose to be sold the way it is as the reception device was placed so that when held the reception becomes noticabally weak. I personally think that Apple is a design based company and that is what they are good at, but selling and producing a mistaken product is just ignorant. Knowing that it would sell anyway is being irresponsible as a billion dollar corp. They need to stop with the sueing and talking as design speaks for itself…I’m getting sick of the way they are abusing loyal consumers..Good bye Apple, the company should have died a long time ago.

You can get a…okay apple computer for $1500 or you can get a PC that has 2 terabytes of space!apple is good at Internet but compering
Apple with PC I would say PC wins by the distance of earth and Pluto!!!

Apple copied windows not the other way.Bill Gates made windows and I’m happy he did!
Besides bill gates is one of the richest person
in the WORLD!!!(more richer than the crAPPLE
idiot,hmmm I wonder why *sarcasim*).

apple should just give up computers…I mean they’re as user friendly as a brick to the face and limits you in what you can use they had to borrow word from microsoft because they were to stupid to make their own and even if they did it wouldnt be half as good as microsoft word…and to top it off they arent practical in an office environment..due to high maintenance costs due to the fact that no regular techie can touch them or it has to be done by apple specialists or just replaced..its the most stupidest company in the world…I’m surprised it still is around…and the only reason they still exist is because they’re the only competition to microsoft, and they have to resort to selling crapple iphoney and icrap which is as useless as their computers but people buy it…why…because they are sheep…and a slave to trends…I boycotted steve jobs and am also boycotting Tim cook at least gates was a philanthropist…how much money did Jobs or cook donate to charity?

Interesting read – both the list and the comments, so I’ll respond to each.

The list makes for good reading – at least entertaining. Many points are simply incorrect, which is a shame because there are other points that could have been made. e.g. – Power users use Pathfinder. Some might, most don’t. Other points are either partially correct or are just a personal opinion – enough to be argued. Some other points are correct, but are ápple issues’ that most or all other companies are guilty of. Example of this is child labor, some crap products (hi-fi, though I haven’t used one myself – I’ll just take your word that it is no good). As for the “Sneaky Installer”, what do you call the google toolbar for IE?! Then there are the points that are dead-on (or don’t go far enough). Regional pricing, locked prices – the usual bastard corporate mentality. Slave labor? how about supporting black markets in 3rd world countries!

Anyway, interesting read. As for all the people that have responded thus far, Apple products are what they are, so take it or leave it – not liking something doesn’t make it crap. These responses seem to bash one or the other. I’ll ignore random insults without context. As for the people who have been screwed by Apple, I feel for you but don’t believe you’ll get better elsewhere – you’ll simply be charged less for the privelage. I know – I’m one of the poor pricks that bought a custom G5 for 5K so after the 1 month wait, a further 6 weeks for it to be returned after DOA, 3 break-downs during warranty, no further OS support after 3 years and a final death 3 yeas & 3 months, I know how expensive a reaming from Apple can be.

I use and support both sides of the field and neither is really ‘better’ than the other. Both sides have great innovation and are just as funcional as eachother. I did read a comment about macs not being customizable but with the right skills, they can – just different coding. Both have advanages over the other and when either fail, you’ll be up shit creek if you are not well backed up or insured.

I am also a tech/admin, I have supported both. As other have said, try linux/unix!

One day, M$ will be out of money and idioits, and so will apple.
I do have a preference however .. and it would be windows.
The hardware is basically the same, you can run both on the same machine with bootcamp, and they usually run ok, but you can run OSX on a PC or in VM. that BLOWS! with everything going virtual apple will die off too, not the steve (blow)jobs is gone. give it 5 years. I have friends that love that crap, and always advise them against buying it.
My buddy just bought the ipad,iphone, and icube ? ibox … whatever..
The specs on it as so low I was SHOCKED… my hp laptop blew it away, and I could put a linux distro that looks just like OSX on it if I wanted it that bad.
For functionality/networking, apple blows. How many apple servers are there in ANY given corp. env ? Maybe 1? the rest are M$ or linux/unix.

Sorry to burst everyone’s bubble, but iproducts blow. the OSX platform cant be virtualized, and therefore will DIE a horrid death.

That being said microsoft is just as messed up in the head for thinking we should have to pay for different versions, crippled, and home user versions, and their general license agreement BS.

Linux on the otherhand is the best of both worlds.
FREEDOM finally, and they have the desktop/server side perfected.

I love redhat linux/fedora/centOS.
I love ubuntu, and kubuntu, and ALL linux distros because the bash shell is the same.

At the end of the day, linux will kill them both, and we will all live in an opensource world.

As a final blow…
Windows – Gaming, 3d graphics, ALIENWARE, ease of use, no issues with compatibility, no ‘apple store’, any hardware will work. hot swappable.
graphics that BLOW apple out of the water. Go run halo, or modern warfare 4, or any on a apple.

alienware – $1500 (best/customized/loaded)
too much for my specs, but I run old laptops on linux, and even new laptops on linux :)

Also, Android… I have the 3d phone. I have the Android Evo3d.
Wheres apples 3d phone? Oh yeah, they dont have one.
and it cant tether or be rooted, OR change the battery/memory card.
Win!

Something I find very revealing about Apple’s computing products is their own marketing. Take a look at the technical specs they provide on their own hardware and features. They are very opaque at providing information that can be compared equally against PC systems. And, where they lack hardware completely, they conveniently omit any reference. The own omissions, put against the backdrop of some very polished marketing, make these lack of features appear nonessential, when in fact they are standard features on competing PC platforms. Consider Apple’s omission of both optical drives and ethernet ports on their latest Macbook Pro line.

Agree with everything. I tried to redownload an app I ALREADY BOUGHT, and apple declined it because my Visa Gift Card (what I use to buy apps) was empty when I tried to download a song USING A CREDIT I HAD! I’m Pi$$ed off right now, and I now officially hate apple.

people need to revolt against apple — how many of you have lost all your music and priceless photos from your because your itunes suddenly deletes all your stuff. THEN — they purposely make it impossible to transfer from ipod to your computer.. WHY IS THAT ??? is it THAT hard to include that bundled intheir system?? frankly i think they crash your itunes on purpose- so you have to buy more songs from them. it happenstrina.smith@earthlink.net every few years like clockwork. screw apple. why isn’t this problem all over the news ??john

Most people buy it for the same reason the buy clothes from abercrombie/louis vitton. Apple has marketed their products as style options. They really haven’t produced anything bleeding edge or that innovative, they mostly reshape previous ideas and sell it as the next shiny thing.

All top companies have dirt. They got there some how and they must have cut some corners. Apple certainly isn’t the evilest company out there.

Out of the box a mac may have more functionality. However, looking at the end game windows has more customization in terms of programs that can be installed and used, Linux has more scalibity and mac’s just become something to show to your friends. Ipods, phones, pads can all be bested by some other device if your willing to setup it up. However at the end of the day the product just has to work. Apple USED to be good at this. There reliability is slowly heading out much like what happend with Toyata. However, if you just sit in front of your computer and browse the web/listen to music you would be hard pressed these days to say that mac/windows/linux is superior they all have their quirks. You just pay more to have them on an apple product.

Excellent point…
Apple is a style option. It looks cool to have one, and its easy enough my 2 year old can operate it. On the other hand they charge a lot for that ease of use and pretty design.

Windows is what you use when you need compatibility. You never have to look far for software to do whatever you need. On the other hand you ARE going to get viruses that compromise your personal information,

Linux is the future. However, one must be willing to get their hands dirty. Ease of use, and pretty design are completely in the hands of those configuring the system.

I’ve been an Apple user for several years, now, and I’ve owned several of their devices. That said, I’m getting tired of their whiny BS and pointing patent fingers at other devices that have the potential to outdo them. I like their products and the way they work (for the most part), but Apple as a company is beginning to piss me off. They run their business, products, and AppStore like a dictatorship, and once a customer’s life has been integrated into Apple’s system (via apps, iCloud, etc). After a bit of time and headaches transferring my data and important information to more universal sources, I’ve never been so curious about Android in my life. Now to take care of pesky #24 from this list: Apple really knows how to screw their loyal customers out of money should said customers wise up to the game Apple’s running.

To everyone saying Linux is good, u must be retarded, its the most easily hackable OS out there, if u haven’t had a problem with it, its because the only ppl that use it r 12 yr olds trying to jailbreak apple shit and ppl from 3rd world countries who can’t afford an actual OS, and at u apple users, bring some actual stats on performance, or stfu and admit ur retarded, paying 3 times as much for shit that does 1/4th the stuff, dont bitch about the economy when ur to busy blowing Steve jobs and craddling his rotten apples

Its also sad that the most heard arguement I hear from Apple users is how they never get viruses. Bitch please, its not my fault you can’t be bothered to stop looking at so many shady porn sites and get a free or otherwise not very expensive (or hell fucking pirate), an anti-virus program. It all breaks down to stupid people not realizing that if they stopped using their overpriced Apple product and picked up an Android device or PC (and took a half hour to learn to use it. Seriously when I was like 9 I knew how to use Windows. When I got older and got my own pc it took me a couple days and I was already installing custom UI packs, not easy to do usually), then you’ll be a lot happier.

And for those who don’t know? Apple computers use older hardware components, which translates to you having shitty unreliable computers.

Apple can’t even be bothered to make its own Document programs or OS. Instead they had to beg Bill Gates for MS Office, and take a free open source OS to make theirs by slapping a new UI on it.

And for those who like to go on about how great Unix is? Sorry but I’ve never seen anyone run…well anything on them worth using. Games etc. If you think Unix is the future of computing you’re a moron. No free anything will ever be head of a market XD that’s not how markets and economics work. Besides any real computer fanatic has a PC they custom built or custom ordered (Dell Alienware, Xoticpc.com, Cyberpower.com, iBuypower.com, Newegg), which can probably max any game out and perfrom well on benchmarks for half the price of an Apple computer.

Gaming laptops? Apple has no market there and its becoming big.

Tablets and other mobile devices? Well apple dosent have the Tegra 3 processor in their iPoops like the soon to be released Android equiped, ASUS-Google Nexus 7. Best spec tablet ever for 7in and very cheep.

Bottom line, PC is the best. Honestly its user friendly if you just spend a little bit of time on it. And worst comes to worse by Windows for Dummys or something. Ease of use is getting better for windows, looking at windows 8. And microsoft gives me functionality and transit to all my Windows devices, Xbox, Windows phone, Zune (that’s right, ZuneHD. Fuck iPod) and Pc. I see no other company with such a nice circle.

You’ll need to show some evidence that Linux is more hack-able than Windows. I’ve been in IT for 15 years and seen thousands of windows machines crippled by trojans, but have never seen it happen on any Linux.
For that matter, lets go a step farther and talk BSD… Which is what Apple OS-X is built from, and is considered the most stable OS ever made. More “hackable” than Windows? Seriously?!?
Then why is it you don’t see any Windows machine without a resource sucking Anti-Virus software running all the time in the background?
Further more, why would I want a piece of third-party software that systematically analyzed every bit of information on my entire file system? Sounds rife with the possibility for misuse.

I hear a lot of talk about playing games… If you want to play games you should buy a game console. A whole lot cheaper, and way more software available to that end.

Also, The rumors that MS ripped off the GUI from Apple is misleading. Steve Jobs actually swiped the mouse controlled GUI from Xerox, and then Bill Gates took it from Steve. So, it’s kinda like the pot calling the kettle black.

“No free anything will ever be head of a market XD that’s not how markets and economics work.” -Army Echo 94

Oh really… Well why don’t you take a look at the server market?
It’s completely dominated by free systems. Google, Yahoo, Facebook, basically everyone except MS runs Linux for their server infrastructure.
Not to mention, EVERY super-computer runs Linux/Unix, not a single one runs MS.

MS is for playing games on desktops.
Linux/Unix gets the real work done.

Right which is why in the Army we use Unix. Oh wait, we don’t. And not all anti-virus programs suck up a lot of ram or CPU. As for analyzing files, its called definition settings. You can tell it to not analyze everything.

And I said markets and economics. Not the 0.0001% of people who use super computers. As for servers that’s to be expected. But again you’re a moron for not understanding that I’m talking about the majority of home users. Who will always have to pay for a capable OS.

We don’t play consoles cause they are !@#$$%# 8 generations behind PC’s, have you ever played a game? There is no comparison. PC games kick ass, and there are a hell of a lot more games on PC then consoles. Also, PC is cheaper then consoles, software and hardware wise. You don’t need a PC over 1g to play games anymore son. As far as apple goes, it sucks period. They don’t have the balls to go outside the lines. Microsoft trys to give people options, you can use several software and hardware options. I would love to see apple os’ work with the amount of hadrware and software windows works with. I bet apple wouldn’t be so stable as people claim. I do agree with linux/unix being superior on servers, but as an IT, linux is constanty hacked and @#$%$ up by viruses of all types too.

Apple are hypocrites. They sue other companies for patent infringements yet they do it themselves. They copied the pull down notification from android phones. Plus they sue Samsung for generic patent infringements (how did they patent curved edges?!) yet impose patents from Samsung. isheep will always defend their beloved bullsh** company whilst applying lubricant!

Apple does suck. They’ve been busted for fixing e-book prices, they were busted for employing slave labor in China and not too long ago shortly after the Sleeze Jobs left this earth they were busted for other things.

They constantly mess with programs and FORCE you to buy upgrades and what a CROSSGRADE? C’mon! Not many products are made by aftermarket companies, the Apple products are too expensive for their purpose. These system are good…but not flawless by any means.

ITunes is horrible, iPads with no usb, phones that don’t mount as drives, their digital content protection BS. They really want the systems to work only with their hardware, software and codecs too no less!

Want to work with the latest HD .mts buy a new mac.

It’s quite simple what Apple is doing. 1. they are trying to be or have this glorious spot in the world called ulimate domination and 2. they are ripping you off by their price fixing and charging you more for a mac than a pc which mac is made in china by slave laborers.

I’ve got a killer ppc and can’t utilize flash programs…these a holes dont even support the browser not to mention THEIR SYSTEMS!!!!

F mac. they’ll like most other wall street baggers and bankers…crooks!

Uhh..guys! those who rant about how awesome osx is and how windows sucks…have you ever bothered to check out d latest Linux operating systems?? Except on 3d gaming and rendering front, Linux is much better than windows, and will eat a mac and shit it out as very tiny turds, indescernible to the iMoron.

Ahhhh… reading this has made me feel so much better. I’ve been using Apples since 1984… and Windows Machines… and linux… not to mention Commodore 64, Zenith Heathkit, TRS -80, yeah… I’m old. Anyway, I have to say… I ordered an Air for my wife off the Apple site today… tried to call customer service to make a change cause I realized… oh fuck you can’t upgrade the ram, on hold for 30 minutes, then they hung up… after I heard their French customer service message? WTF? Then on hold AGAIN for 30 minutes… “Sorry, in the time we’ve kept you on hold… you order has been pulled and can’t be changed.”

Are you shitting me? Sure I like being able to go into terminal and dink around but I’m starting to rethink the whole Apple ecosystem. I think truly Apple has gotten too big for their briches. (old guy saying)

I mean… I was TRYING desperately to give them MORE money and they treated me like I was a tool. I don’t get it. I really don’t. If you’re gonna be focused on money and marketing I get that. But at LEAST have the sales team able to SQUEEZE more money out of people.

Unreal. A real sign of true corporate BS. And that’s not the first call I’ve had this year that just went south. Tech support and customer service have gone from pleasant to downright incompetent if not surly. If you’re question isn’t basically that of a simpleton forget it… the painful pause on the other end of the call is palpable.

Well, I have to congradulate apple on their ipods, very convenient, but for their capabilities theyre not so great.
I especially dislike the programming features of the ipod/pad series. So i often find myself tinkering with a TI-84 to see what it can do.
Also the Apple series are way too linear for most people. What is up with the unchangeable hardware? It takes all of the funout of having a computer.
Although the mac is very convenient when taking notes in a college course, it cannot beat a PC at much.
Overall Apple should stop making mac and stay with iPods because Macs are just too expensive and have to be replaced too often for anyone but sheep to want to buy.

Apple believes that they are the only company that should be able to manufacture touch screen phones, SERIOUS? Who the fuck do they think they are?? First their product is a piece of shit, that goes for all of their products, they sold out to china, fucking communist fuckers, and I am referring to Apple as the communists. They will go down, just a question of how soon.

Apple’s customer service is pathetic. Most people just follow what’s written in front of them with no idea what they’re talking about. They keep you waiting forever and charge and arm and a leg.
This company is a big rip-off

I hate apple products, company and store. My kids have Ipods, and used to have iphones, We have had nothing but trouble with iphones and I hate the apple store and its Apps.

I love the fact that I can put in any cd I own or any music I bought online, into my pc and place it on any pc, our blackberry’s, my kids galaxy’s and my tablets, and do it in an instant, and none of them have any problems or comunication problems. I don’t have to go through apple’s webstore, I can also convert them to put on apple with my pc, but if I buy something from the applestore, and place it on ipod, its like pulling teeth to change it to pc and android based products.

Applestore has to ok everything and make everything confusing to share with family members.

I hate the applestore and their stupid itunes cards, that never work. I have seen my kids throw their galaxies half way across the parking lot accidentally, and they didn’t break and still work. You drop an iphone ore ipod and it breaks into a million pieces.

Apple, who stole ideas from xerox and everybody else for that matter, is a BIG Bully and a hipocrite. Using samsung parts in the majority of their small products, using pc platforms on their computors, and using free linux with small addaptations, makes me want to puke.

All of our android products are user freindly, and do not work at all like apple products, because the android products actually work and are more user friendly in all areas. The screens are more colorful, the speeds are faster and can handle all the games. Most of the apps you pay for at itune store are free for androids.

apple is for the gullible people. oooo looks cool lets buy it. why else is apple suing as much as they can. They are afraid and know their time of “superiority” is up and ending soon. After google is done with them and all the other companies go after apple with patents theyll be right back at square one. the iphone is great for the people that aren’t technically inclined. A 9 yr old can operate an iphone. Had an iphone. hated it. have galaxy s3 and i cant waaaaaait for samsung to spit out something new. MUCH BETTER PHONE THAN THE POS 4S I HAD.

Just had to add my voice. I f’ing can’t stand Apple right now. They’re suing everybody because they can’t compete against Samsung and Google’s superior products. The patents they have are for complete bullshit- like slide to unlock and unified search. Screw you, Apple- you didn’t invent any of that.

Google had voice commands in Android for years before Apple, but I knew when they bought that Siri crap that I’d eventually hear the dumb-as-dirt Apple fanbois saying Apple invented voice commands- and sure enough! Now they’re suing with unified search for Siri as if they invented any of that crap either!

The SGS3 is far superior to the iPhone. I hate that POS iPhone. I see people with them and assume they aren’t very bright, or just sheep that have to have what everyone else does- fair or not, that’s what Apple makes me think of those people.

Just so frustrated with how Apple stifles innovation, and how they’ve abused the patent system.

Think about this going forward: Now other tech companies will be forced to jump on the bandwagon patent even their most basic ideas- otherwise Apple will wait a year after anyone introduces anything new that they dared not to patent so it’s sealed up iron clad- make their own iVersion of it, patent it, then go to court against the company that was more innovative than them in inventing it in the first place, and sue them for using their own innovation!

That’s EXACTLY what they’ve done to Google with unified search! So now companies can’t innovate as fast and bring new products and ideas to market until they spend all kinds of jack covering their ass from Apple’s lawsuit scams.

And to think- this bastard trojan horse of a company wants to get into making TVs too! F’ING F!!!!!

Just like they did with phones, Apple will act like they invented the freakin’ TV, even though others have been doing TVs for decades before them! Then they’ll patent every tiny little detail like “button on universal remote that lights up when pressed and changes channel” and then sue everyone else in the TV market for doing the same! “Wahh! Samsung, Panasonic- your TVs are big rectangles just like ours, with a screen that shows the picture! You COPIED us! We’re suing you!!”

I have owned my own digital forensics lab for the past 5 years, when we review our equipment upgrades annually we have started to realize that not a single one of our specialized software is supported on any Mac platform and the software available on Mac is only compatible with Mac based investigations. Our PC’s and Linux machines, however can utilize the full range of software available as well as investigate any Mac OS machines.

Apple can not create new ideas any more cause Steve Jobs passed away ! that’s why they suing Samsung and other cell phone companies! I am going to buy new phone this Friday, i will choose Samsung Galaxy S III.

Trying to create an apple account and accidently touch the screen outside the box. There is no way back. You have to start again from the main screen, this is after you have typed in all this info, its a joke!!!!!!!!

I hated apple since the 2c days, and the Mac lad sic, power ac and other crap. Amiga was sp much better than the 286, or the Mac. I have iPods I don’t use, a touch I gave away, and this crap iPad 2? Which crashes and is impossible to type on… I have to say ITunes and theapp store are 2 worst online/ software experiences. Now that jobs is gone, apple will die again, soon I hope. Windows 7 is awesome, and I can type about 40x faster on my blackberry bold touch than the 10 ,minutes of backspacing it took with this iCrap. Android will kill you apple,even though I wish it was blackberry…go zanada fuk’n tap

linux is the best. open source, free, many different versions and ubuntu is lightweight, user friendly, and is very flexible, the only downfall is probably how its not as widely known as windows so all games are for windows since macs suck so much. half of apple is just making things so linear that people who dont know how to learn what does what can use them, the other half is “innovative” technology they stole from things made years before

Just to clarify Apple people, windows is an operating system not hardware. In terms of hardware there is stuff way superior to Apple like Dell Alienware, most HP/Compaq products, Samsung and a ton of others. I personally use Linux Mint and before you insult it your precious Mac OS X is based on a Linux Kernel.

i own 2 windows from 2005, a windows from 2011, and a macbook pro from 2010
windows vs mac? MAC hands down. Why? Lets start.
Windows startup: 35 minutes to 4 hours
Mac Startup: Less than 2 seconds
Windows Crashes: Daily, twice per day, leading to 12 hours of startup after malfunction
Mac Crashes: Think i had one over the entire time ive owned it
Windows speed: I would have died twice while trying to write this…
Mac Speed: Fast
These arent opinions, they are facts.

I HATE APPLE.
i agree with everyone. all i have is problems with apple. and it’s doing simple things like opening itunes (to find all info gone) or browsing the internet (when it freezes (no other operations are open/running)).

yes, apple sucks balls! No i wont be buying the iphone 5 or any other mac product for that matter ever again. Heres why:

1. cant download corel paintshop pro
2. The want you buy a new application everytime you try to do ANYTHING
3. Cant use flash
4. Cant browse & upload a pic from your iphone
5. the phone fucking spies on you
6. fuctions are so locked down, you cant just do what you want, u do it the way they want or it wont work
7. Can share songs with anyone, you have to fucking buy them yourself. If your hard drive crashes you can sync your ipod if it has songs from someelse itunes without their password. Pain in the fucking ass
8. Can copy a video you took on your iphone to another computer without a major hassel.
9. When you email that same video from you iphone you can rename it! and its fucking small and blurry.

Omg apple sucks! I had phone 3gs and 4g. Typing sucked on it! My iphone 3gs had issues and they made me do some stupid update that took an hour.. And my phone got worse after that!. I told them to undo the update and they couldn’t. I went to store w my own windows pc bc they are way too cheap to let me use their computer there. They didn’t do anything itunes were too difficult to download and use..
Then I ditched apple and got best android phone. On android one day I got some update for ice cream sandwiche. I downloaded it and didn’t like and decided to try to undo it to ginger bread again. Went to store and they undid the update in 30 mins! And no I did not have to take my pc to the store! So you suck apple!

I bought an Iphone looking at all my friends, that was the worst phone i ever had, a complete piece of shit, What i have observed is Apple fan boys in reality are technologically challenged people, the reason they buy is , its looks good its got the hype. People who use Iphone dont use it or do not know to use it other than to make calls or send text messages or browse internet once in awhile, yet they say Iphone is the best smartphone available!!!! tried attaching photos to gmail, one photo at a time , man it sucks,
Now I have a Htc one x, good phone, not the best one though bad battery life, but tops everything else. I hate people pooling their money on stupid overpriced products and making business like apple grow, dumb apple fan boys

Apple users can say what they want about Microsoft (I hate them too!), but the fact of the matter is that they actually WROTE THEIR OWN OPERATING SYSTEM, from the ground up. OS X is literally just a pretty gui for Unix. It is good looking, but locked the fuck down, man. Not to mention even more resource intensive than Winblows, and that’s already really, really bad. I’ve been using Ubuntu for like 3 years now with a half gig of ram. That is half the minimum requirement for OS X. Linux is like a straight razor; if you don’t decapitate yourself, it give you the best shave ever. Windows is like a safety/disposable razor; easy to use, somewhat subpar shave. OS X — it’s like a bowling pin.

On the other hand, Apple does produce highly superior hardware (except the whole ‘no DIY fixes’ thing), they’re just unable to use it to it’s full potential, which is a damn shame.

Apple is a lot better than all those crappy companies who cannot do anything except copy them. Seriously, if it was not good, then why would all the other f-ing competitors out there try to copy it’s ideas. Intelligent people who want their money’s worth, buy Apple products!

I have 5 friends who are apple users. 2 of them hate apple, 2 are devoted to it, and ones a hypocrit. I hate Apple with a passion and there are 3 reasons why:

1: Price. How thick a skull do you have to have that you assume $2000 is better than $500 simply because 1 has white packaging??!! And there’s an MP3 Player on Future Shop’s website right now for $30! Who would buy an iPod Touch nano 3gs mini xl 1.89 gb.4 for $700!!

2: OS: iOS is stupid but it’s exactly the same as everything else. OS X, however, is insane. They’ve been using it since i2002!! Then they charge you extra for Snow Mountain Upside Down Troll Face Lion. It pisses me off!

3: Fanboys: Their biggest argument is it’s faster and it dosen’t get viruses. Bull. Windows can be faster but since there’s software for it, it gets 3 seconds slower. IF YOU HAVE ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE, YOU WON’T GET VIRUSES! It’s amazing! Protect your computer and it will be protected!

Im a big Apple fan, least I was. When I bought my first phone I just needed a device to make calls with, preferably a nice looking phone that made me look rich lol! I had a crappy boost mobile, can you blame me..? Keep that in mind, a phone is a phone, iPhone is nothing more than a status apparatus, an accessory, thats why it makes so much money, they can throw a 5 hour speech about how amazing the new iPhone is but in reality its the same thing just dressed a little differently, that old boost mobile phone can perform the same main function just as well if not better, I never got dropped calls back then and the battery lasted longer. Sick of hearing about how incredible their “designs” are, different size screens lol! Siri is the gayest gimmick ever imo, every time I see someone talking with their phone with that look on their face I just want to head-butt them to death. Its a rectangular phone which apparently they have a patent on geometry so everyone else needs to make circular phones (Samsung!), oval? Maybe octagonal ones, perhaps a concave design, we’ll end up with boomerangs before we know it, its ridiculous. Smart phones have gone about as far as smart phones will go, you wouldn’t attach 10 foot wings on the side of your car just for the hell of it would you..? Well thats how far this has gotten, they’re talking biometric scans and liquid metal techno-sorcery lol, its all bs to hype up moronic Apple fans who don’t know shit about shit, they buy this crap just so they can feel like they’re a part of something, you know… Losers.. Losers who cry and weep outside of Apple stores over a guy who wouldn’t even acknowledge them if their screaming face was on fire. In my years of playing with my iPhone I learned to jailbreak and it made it clear to me these JB guys are the true innovators, notification center is just a copy of Lockinfo. The jailbreak geniuses showed me how the device was meant to be, what it was actually capable of, they open it up, Apple locks it down. Thats what the IOS updates really are. Thats all it is lol, they would never acknowledge these hackers but its likely they have a room set up like a sting operation with all their pictures on the wall. Apple maps?!? Google maps kills Apple, Facebook integration?!? I fucking hate Facebook! I run from it and now its built in to my phone, thats like someone forcing a tramp-stamp tattoo above my ass, I DONT WANT IT THERE! Goddamned Newstand! DAH! If it wasn’t for the JB I doubt I would even play with my device, I bought the iPad because I wanted to JB it and that aspect was what was fun for me. I paid handsomely for it, its mine and I’ll do what I will with it you Nazi assholes, hear that Steve? I’ll watch filthy porn on it and Idc what you think! In the limbo of new JB tools and ios updates you start to get fed up, wtf is up Apple?!? At least with Bill Gates and Microsoft what you see is what you get, theres a level of honesty there, those suit and tie guys are a 1000 more mellow than these phony hippies, they’re the greediest bastards ever to come along in the world of computers, it really dawned on me when I saw how they handled competition, they’re babies! WAHHHH! They dont really care about what the next company does, what they really want is to be the ONLY company that sells phones, they see competition as a sin, very Rockefeller of them (they’re frauds, you can’t be a hippy and an elitist at the same time, they’re big brother’s little bitch) and it pissed me off to no end when I saw everyone involved in the Apple/Samsung lawsuits were on Apple’s nuts, throwing silly jokes and that UK judge can go suck a dick btw, no doubt another dork who plays with Siri amazed at stupid shit, probably got a whole bunch of free gadgets from Apple, I will guarantee it in fact. I hate Apple because they make things suck more and more while lying about it, they are control freaks and everything your new iPhone can do you should know it was capable of it years ago, hell even my iPod Touch had built in HDR function which they made inaccessible, it’ll be in next, next years model… And Ima’ say it, WHY THE FUCK AM I PLAYING STREET FIGHTER ON A PHONE?!?!? The 18 year old version of me would spit in my face for such stupidity, you have a fucking Playstation 3 you dumb shit! These apps are gayer than hell, slice watermelons? Really?!? The average Mac head is *that* simple! People actually play this crap? If I ever meet the guy who made Angry Birds Ima’ cut off his uncreative balls to sling shot at Apple’s HQ. To all you cornballs who worship Steve, Steve didn’t invent shit, nothing! His whole life he just got used, first he creates Apple the he gets fired from it, it almost goes under so they bring him back and he pulls off a MP3 miracle thanks to Napster, all he did was redirect the funds into his own pockets and sadly when it peaks and he reaches god-like status the poor bastard dies! I bet they love that. He cleaned up the mess and left behind a money machine, the damaged idiot would have done it all for free too, he is easily manipulated. Apple is evil as fuck and greedy to no end, I want no part of the Apple community, no way in hell Ima’ be bunched in with a bunch of mindless Lemmings, ask Siri where the nearest precipice is and swan dive off of it, I hope Samsung makes Apple sauce out of these fake hippy bitches.

I have an iPod touch, and there are so many features that are annoying as hell on it, including the fact that photo albums cannot be deleted from the iPod, they must be deleted PICTURE BY PICTURE or through iTunes. iTunes is annoying enough with the fact that, as they stated, it is not compatible with ANYTHING else, only song bought from iTunes. The iPod is also annoying in that practically everything beneath the surface is badly made or annoying as hell to work. iCloud only stores data from applications such as Notes and Safari which, to a casual user, takes up a fraction of the 5 gigabytes it allows for. The app store has many problems, too, with apps shooting up to the top of the lists for a day and then falling into obscurity. iOS 6 changed this, but there are still many problems.

What i don’t like about apple is how controlling their products is Jailbreak and BOOM!! i have rotating icons, a file system browser, a custom theme, custom battery image, custom boot logo…. should i go on?

and guess what Apple nerds/fanatics all this cost me LESS THAN $1700.
And you can take that to your control hungry company AND SHOVE IT!!!!!
If you want to trash talk look above and at that price then look below at the closest iMac equivalent and at that price:

So glad to hear there are others out there who have had similar horrible experiences to mine. I hope Apple CRUMBLES and soon. Their customer service is so shitty! I received an ipad as a gift and opened it and didn’t like it as the wifi gave me a headache…it was purchased at Future Shop who said that I should go to the Mac store and they would help me out. They totally didn’t and said they don’t know why Future Shop said to go to them (pass the buck much?). Anyway the holier than thou salesgirl said I should have no trouble ‘selling’ it! It was a perfectly good new ipad and I was forced to being their fucking salesperson and losing $125 in the process on a product that was bought less than 60 days before…nice way to lose a customer…for life! I was hoping they would offer me an instore credit and then I would have gladly upgraded my old MAC…but nothing, nothing! I went home and cried I was so upset with being treating so badly by this piece of shit place! NO MORE! Stand up for your rights people…stop being a fruit fly…this place doesn’t give a damn about you!!! I wrote a scathing email on apple.com but of course heard nothing back as they don’t care at all about their customers, bastards, bastards, bastards…never again!!! Thanks for letting me rant…feels better! Whew!

Look, I have been reading a lot of post and I have to say that a lot are valid a lot are out of anger and most are as stupid as the people that didn’t vote for obama just because he’s black

The fact is apple as a company is very successful because the are marketing geniuses. Anybody that can sell you something behind the power curve of other products and tell you it’s new and you buy it clearly knows what they are doing. Now, im posting this from my iPhone 4s and I own the ipad2 and let me say I looooove my iPad. I own a hp desktop. I have Samsung electronics all in my house, I love my tech stuff and I’m only 25. I remember the bull shit and the fall of IBM apple has never always been better for the idiots that say it was. I can’t say much on the iMac verses PC other Mac is just a pc with an apple on the outside, right? I mean to each it’s own but I got the money but I’ll be damn if I get a 2000 dollar desktop I can’t do 90% of my tasked unless I’m running windows anyway. I’m not genius but the products it produce aren’t innovative they are just what everybody else has but now apple has it. If people would just admit they just like the name or the brand there would be less name calling and product bashing.

But my beef is with the phones. How many people don’t get the best out of their iPhone until the unlock it. I love the battery life and the retina display of my iPhone but damn apple why the fuck do you lack style on everything else, I mean how can you drop the 4 and I had the epic with the panoramic camera in 2010 and you just get it in 2012 and you treat it like you found a new planet. Get off your own nuts and make something new and stop trapping people in ignorant bliss. My wife’s tablet may not match up in display and battery life of my iPad but I find myself using that over mine. I’m a guy that believes you should get the most out of what you pay for but who still has the 3gs……….. What’s the point of you having a long lasting product if it’s out dated when it’s released. I can’t wait to get rid of my hipster I devices because they lack freedom, diversity, style, creativity, and they have developed zombie-like followers that truly think its the best thing since sliced bread. Apple won’t miss me and if you or anybody that never seen or heard of any company and you dropped a phone in their face with 2 buttons and a droid, that iPhone would be a very nice looking paper weight.

Simple my ass. I have to jump through hoops to get my 4s to 70% of what I like and that’s not simple to me at all and I can sit and play with my phone all day when I’m not training. The only reason I still have I devices is because of the penitentiary called iTunes and I don’t wanna lose the games I purchased.

To me apple as a company- awesome and the know how to make a buck
Owning a iMac- I wanted one but that’s only because I like tech stuff and I wouldn’t mind owning one but after I don’t need to do important things that I only need microsoft for
iPads, iPhones and ipods- if you just love apple and you will die without it then blow your money, but if you like having money in your pocket and have a better product with freedom don’t go apple, I miss android and personally you can do more

Sorry if I took up your time but I just think apple is like a rollercoster, it looks awesome from a far, and there is a thrill while you experience it but would you really wanna ride that one ride when there are better ones in the world………

ok so what u fags don’t like apple maybe other people do, why do u feel its right to say shit about apple. they are not going to change because of u haters. they make billions of dollars and most people are satisfied with macs. if u don’t like it than don’t buy it, simple as that.

Pcs are cheaper and does almost everything a normal person needs you probably got a mac just because it came in gray. Nobody is a fag or a hater and nobody wants them to change their ways we won’t idiots and fanboys to see when your being tricked. It’s ok to like a product but not give into the dark side of it, you don’t see ford/ Chevy/ and dodge suing each other because the make cars but apple sued Samsung on some shit the Koreans came up with first, and won. What kind company comes up with something late and after somebody then says they stole it from them. It’s all good that you like macs I mean everything on the inside of a mac is non mac products, look it up or take it apart and check it out, the hardware doesn’t have an apple logo in site. If you prefer high end shit that doesn’t do anything special then that’s you but don’t name call when you don’t have facts, if you was my friend we could have a beer and joke like that but this is a apple sucks post not the jump on apples dick orgy session

As a software developer I can say Apple’s business model is truly horrible.

Wrote an app that will run on the browser of Apple/Android & Blackberry devices…all works OK. Built the native android app and distributed…all fine. To submit an App for the iPad/iPhone to the iOS Provisioning Portal to get it in the App Store you need a……Mac. You cannot submit an app for approval to Apple without using a Mac….WTF!

My brother who edits TV programs and has trumpeted Apple products for years will freely admit that Safari and Thunderbird are junk as are the Windows tools and certain builds of Snow leopard.

Don’t get me wrong, hardware and OS wise the iPad and iPhone are nice pieces of Kit but the corporate model behind is horrible and designed round protectionism and closed platform.

Android and Windows8 will take hold eventually as businesses get fed up with trying to get apps for internal business use on to the platform.

The consumer market is a different story but just look at Samsung’s sales. I have an HTC Desire HD and will move the the Samsung S3 4G.

I’ve also seen rational open minded people turn into brain washed product evangelists for Apple once they buy a device, it’s spooky and quite disturbing. It’s almost like a cult (like Scientology).

Nothing wrong with buying a iPhone or iPad, they are nice devices. Just don’t spend your time telling other why they are better when they really aren’t, that’s the truth of the matter.

@Taz, it is interesting b/c I am one of those brain-washed persons you mentioned. I had been a Windows programmer for 10 years, absolutely in love with programming. I was very open-minded, so about 6 months ago, I bought my first MacBook Pro, with the original intention of trying something fresh, and if Apple is good enought, I will use Mac / Windows in parallel.

It was extremely painful to move from Windows to Mac. After 1 month of re-learning how to use a computer, I threw my PC into the corner. The last thing I did with it was to copy all my data to my new Mac. Then I decided to move on to iPhone development. Another month, and I switched to an iPhone development job. Now I own 3 iPhones, 4 iPads, and a 2TB Time Capsule for development. Buying that Mac was one of the best decisions I ever made.

There have been enough points made here, so I won’t add one more. It is probably all about personal preferences. There’s one interesting point I want to note thought…

Besides programming, I am also a teacher (actually that Mac was recommended by one of my students) and most my (highschool) students prefer Mac. I have never seen a student coming to class with a PC. The only ones who use PC – at home – are game addicted boys.

I don’t know how old people here are, or how many years you guys have been stuck with PCs, but let’s imagine this situation: an absolute novice, never used a computer before, is presented with a PC and a Mac… We all know what his choice would be.

What I think here… you people here, including the author of the article, can’t keep up with Apple simply because you can’t give up the PC. You had a mental image that any real computing device *must somehow resemble* a PC, or Windows, MS, whatever. YOU BELIEVE THAT ANYTHING DIFFERENT FROM A PC IS NOT A SERIOUS COMPUTER, OR IT IS FOR NOVICE. You let your past experience interfere with your present decisions. You have made your choice before you ever knew about Apple. But future belongs to the younger… And that’s why I would say that Apple is way more innovative than other companies. Because of that “PC glitch” in your brain, you are incapable of seeing the trend Apple is creating, the trend that I and other Apple supporters can see. I you want something new, you need to get rid of the old.

Well… Anyway, I, and many others, are happy with Apple. And when you are happy, you don’t care what others are saying, here in this particular forum, or anywhere else.

My comment was on Apple’s business model but you have twisted the argument somewhat by going straight on the attack and your post descended into a rant which is disappointing (that’s the brain washing :-) beginning to take hold), I said I’ve seen rational minded people (who trumpted open standards and free platforms in two cases that spring to mind) change their opinions almost overnight, not all Apple product users exhibit this behavior, plenty say they are unhappy with the product, some love them. It’s just a product but has a cult like following with some users not all, don’t take it personally.

I’m glad your investment in Apple products is working for you, my point which I maintain is that Apple operates on a protectionist business model and as a software dev of 15 I think that sucks as it makes your life hard as a professional, Microsoft used to behave in this manner but are slowly waking up and smelling the coffee although they still lapse into some bad old ways (HTML5 standards spring to mind).

What a student chooses (it will be fashion led to some degree) and what full-time IT pro’s choose isn’t a great comparison. Just because your students like them isn’t a great argument for why Mac’s are better…..that’s like saying my dad is bigger than yours :-)

Let’s be clear, by definition a Mac or a machine running Linux is a PC (Personal Computer) – I’m Just Saying. Mac is over priced and under preforms and Linux cant run native versions of Microsoft Apps.

Also, Android, just simply rocks!! Any Samsung phone running Ice Cream Sandwich or better beats the living heck out of iPhone any day of the week! I had features on my Samsung Infuse that Apple is celebrating in the NEW iPhone 5 a year before the iPhone 5 came out!

I think the last part of 26 is mostly wrong due to the fact that REACT’s private company committee (which calls the shots) includes Google, Adobe, Microsoft, Symantec, Sony, and Apple. So it isn’t Apple’s “pet police force” as it is a Silicon Valley corporate interest police force.

You say macs dont get viruses and PCs do (the main reason you fan boys find macs superior to pcs)

Pcs get viruses only if u go to untrusted porn sites and torrent sites.
not from doing every day tasking like browsing yahoo or google or checking email or researching for a project or listening to music and etc….(thats all most people do on a mac).

and you are willing to spend atleast $1000 for a mac and you expect $500 PC to do the same thing? thats just so shitty. get a $1000 PC and then compare the specs and speed to mac.

as far as iphones go,Average consumer has gotten smarter with technology, they want more functions on their phones(not just calling,messaging, and internet). all you apple users dont even know the power of android. on android you actually are able to do all tasks you are able to do on a computer and thats truly considered a smartphone.

normal mac user doesnt even know that on the new macbooks you actually have the option to use right click. but i dont expect a normal mac user to actually be able to change the settings to have right click functionality case most users believe that all mac mousepads are one button, soo freaking stupid .

The ONLY good thing about Apple is, when you have problems and spent a lot of money with them, they will send out an Apple genius to give you the best hummer you ever had (male or female depending on your orientation).

Apple is nothing but a faggot ass communist company, they are turning Americans into lazy pieces of crap. Apple can seem just as bad as obesity. I would rather die slow painful death than use apple bullshit. I’d rather be roommates with Hitler and Osama bin laden than even consider using apples communist shit, they can burn in hell

All I want to do with my stupid ass I pad is hurl it at light speed and Steve jobs face nothing but crashes I look up how to heal my dogs ear and it wants me to look at real estate fuuuuck u apple in ur dirty stupid ass

I broke some apple shit for the microchips and programming it’s programmed to piss people off seriously it’s set to randomly crash 1/5 times it also is set to re navigate you somewhere totally different randomly, all it is is some fucked up shit made by a fag who got a hard on from a half eaten apple

I refuse to touch an apple product with my wallet. Sometimes i periodically switch platforms and have no desire to be locked down to one platform.

I use BB10 and they dont lock me down to anything, you can sideload android apps and i can browse every file on every device.

Apples iOS was revolutionary in 2008 – now its old and stale. Android can do everything it does but better. The only truly revolutionary phone OS today is BB10, you can do everything including type quickly with a single thumb.

On the PC side Apple is a joke. Weak developer support and locked down overpriced hardware. However i disagree with some commenters praising Linux – its a make work project for geeks – great for server hardware. Windows can be a real pig at times but for personal computing its thebest game intown, thats whythey have 94% market share.

Yep, Apple prices are completely ridicules for what you are getting. pretty much giving you about $400 in hardware inside of a pretty package for $2000 it’s it sad and pathetic that apple users don’t do any research on what they are actually spending their money on, but I guess if you are too dumb to do anything useful with good hardware apple is perfect for you anyhow.

Here’s the way I see it. Apple sucks balls! They are like a nazi regime controlling everything they can get their greedy fingers into and shutting out anything they can’t. Two examples of this are FLASH(the f&&&ing thing you need do anything productive on the Internet) and swype text, how much is that really worth for gods sake. Their os and software has to be tricked into doing anything you want it to and if you figure out how to do so that will be fixed in the next update. I’m probably going to be visited by a black helicopter with an apple logo on the side now but, all that being said we own two apple products and use the hell out of them. What it all boils down to is is you want a tool to do what you want it to and produce feedback how you want it produced, buy ANYTHING other than an apple. If you want a BADASS TOY that you can watch movies, PLAY on the Internet, listen to music, and play games on then buy ANYTHING that apple makes.

P.S. WHY THE F$$K IS THERE NO DELETE KEY ON THE F&&&ING KEYBOARD??? Do you have to pay the dead delete key inventors family .00001 cent for every device you make with it?

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You sir, are a liar. Any programmer would know that the Mac OS cannot be manipulated the way a Linux or windows platform can be. Furthering my point, saying that the apple os is just as good for “real computing” is like saying that an etch a sketch is as good as a pencil and paper for drawing. And no s–t a novice is going to pick a Mac because you don’t need to have any clue what you are doing because there aren’t any options for anything, it just does what apple wants it to. I’m pretty sure the only thing you’re in love with is the check you get from apple for writing positive reviews on the net!

Apple is a bit like Ryanair. Except that Apple has real products to offer.

At Ryanair, they take their clients for idiots and claim it high and loud.
At Apple, they take their clients for idiots but do it discreetly.

One or two very simple examples:

1. the price of a laptop running windows and an mac ? Even though windows is not as good, it doesn’t justify the difference.

2. You just get an i-phone. Even if you don’t ever intend to buy anything form Apple, you have to enter your credit card number to create your ID for the I-phone. This s why I use others like blackberry, Nokia or Samsung and I gave back to Apple their I-phone.

The second example is called : ABUSE. But people are so brainwashed and stupid nowadays that they don’t even notice that Apple abuse them by such practices.

I agree with this whole thing mostly because i am a gamer and a mac sucks mad monkey balls for gaming and many other things, if your a gamer your best bet is a computer with windows like Razor, a cyberpower, or alienware just not a mac even if you are not a gamer DONT BUY A MAC OR EVEN ANY APPLE PRODUCTS. but its your money go ahead and waste it on s***y technology

When I was finishing completing my design degree, most of the teachers said how wonderful Apple computers were. Look at how much better creative software applications work they would say. Since we had both PC and Mac labs I would use both. I found that I would encounter just as many issues with Apple as with a PC. Apply would crash, develop system issues, not save files properly. Then while in a web development class with a husband/wife teacher who were Apple everything, it quickly turned into never use a Mac system to build a website. They said its just too complicated and difficult. I see nothing beneficial to Apple. When you compare the price at 2 to 3 times more the price of a PC, common sense comes into play. It’s a piece of plastic made in China like everything else. Not some amazing device that can do anything more then the PC. A matter of fact it does less and cost more. People are like raccoons attracted to shiny things. Apple does one thing better than anyone else: brain washing the public! The saying you can always trick some of the people all of the time, should be an Apple slogan.

apple is sucks since it formed the launch ios every year which is stupid and pathetic iphone they launch every year same shit they dont change body or anything i hate apple…………mac price is very high idk why they put high price why they want to earn so much money now steve jobs die so we dont have to expect a new invention from apple ever because they release same shit every year

If you are able to click on the above link you will see the destruction done to my debit card by some kid who got ahold of my itouch for a day.
The big problem stems from Apple re-activating my debit card 3 times after I deliberately removed the card and its numbers from the Apple data base.
Apple support team sounds like they are willing to issue me store credit but guess what…………. they do not Know how ! Right, seriously??

I have owned an iMac 2011 27″ and I used it for about 1 or 2 years, then it started bugging out, getting random black screens and shaky cursor movements. After I moved out I built a PC for half the price and it is SO much better. I used to be a mac fag until I realized how horrible, overpriced, and stupid Apple and their shitty calculators are.

I fucking hate how easy it is to break the ipod 5G cord, ive went through five this year, and now i need to buy a new one, which is about 30$(i think), greedy bastards. I also think lightning refers to how fast it breaks.

Having an iProduct is a punishment. I know because I am forced to use and support them. I laugh at all apple lovers trying to type on shitty touch screens, navigate shitty ios7, spending huge $$$ in iaps, failing to get decent audio and video output etc etc.

At home I have a pc with whistler os – faster and more usable than any other system to this day. It doesnt look fancy. Who cares it does what an os is supposed to do, unlike every imac-rosofft os since, which look good but are garbage to use.

Oh and when I purchase a program, I get the whole thing, and dont need to purchase a fist full of price-fixed add ons to get them to work. But that is rare. The free software is actually much better here too.

Apple is horribleeeee. They wanted to charge me a 25 dollar fee just so I can get some technical support for my iPod.. Are you guys not getting enough money so you have to charge people who need help? You bums. I could write a 5 page report, possibly more on how much apple irritates me, but I won’t boar you guys with my little Apple experience

Started with MBA 11 (2010), followed by MBA 13 and finally MBP Retina 15″-i7-16GB-512GB SSD

When I wanted to buy MBP (didn’t yet know what cult I was under that time!) Mac Store on Flinders Street in Melbourne insisted me to buy a 2-Year Protection Plan for the 16GB MBP which someone ordered but didn’t paid fully or whatever the reason, but it was available while other stores have option for it to be ordered. He was blunt and even my democratic rights of a citizen (guy it is still democracy in Australia on paper with two sets of rules off course) to choice, and than I ended up waiting 28 days or with David Jones in Melbourne where shipment was much delayed and I was traveling overseas so it cost me a lot indirectly. All for just to get a super hyped product now sold. All apple products did was reduced my creativity-reason-thinking and rational. Many times I banged my head in deep frustration as to why I jumped on Apple bandwagon in the first place. (for me the reason was much hype made about piece of shit apple than anything else, now I know).

I sold all Apple products one by one and now will never touch anything apple for ever. This includes iPhone 4S, Apple TV 2 and Apple TV3, MBA-11, MBA-13 and finally MBP-15-Retina.

So much a mofo of the tech world, a pure dogmatic piece of shit, more for the retarded childish or child-like adults who refuse to grow-up even their ass grows a jungle of hair there -

I have iphone. 4s, iPad 4th gen, and Apple TV. All works great, my only complaint is the very minor upgrades they release every year and every one gets crazy about them. Competors had the same if not better features out a year before. Still waiting for apple to break the 4″ screen size, if not by 2014 I’m done with apple products.

One month out of warranty, my iPhone on/off button fails. Verizon is no help, Apple store is less. Out a luck. Lovely experience. Flushed another $$400 bill thanks to Apple. Thanks for standing behind your product! I hope your stock tanks, and your executives all lose their jobs. I’ll never be a sucker again.

I don’t own a mac. They are probably capable computers. What I f hate is the whole iMeSoCool culture. Buying a windows PC/software to me is like buying a hammer or a wrench. It may break, it may not be great looking, but I buy it to get the job done and I don’t care who the f likes it. Mac is to me is like a fashion statement and I hate fashion statements. It’s like listening to the whoever happens to be a pop star at the moment. It’s like buying trendy clothes or “friends” won’t like you. I’d rather buy any underdog device than iMeMeMeDevice. Small print: This is just my opinion and it may not reflect the reality of the situation.

Been using a PC for 20 years now. While it’s true that some versions of Windows have had troubles, you can ALWAYS fix them yourself. Hardware problem? Open it up and repair it. Software problem? Google it, if you can’t solve it, format c (takes less than an hour these days). Every version of Windows has been better than the last (except Vista, of course). I won an iPhone 5 64gb a year ago and I honestly preferred my cheap android phone. Kind of wishing I had the iCrap sealed in the box and bought a comparable Android phone for 50-75% of the price.

Apple is a total rip-off financially, since their products are way too expensive for what you get. A six core 3.5ghz mac pro with 16GB RAM for 4.049 euro? Over 500 euros for a fucking SSD? I built a PC with the same specs for 1500 euro in total (no kidding). Plus I can do whatever the hell I want with it software- and hardwarewise.

If a bunch of snobby morons want to show off their overpriced machines at Starbucks, that’s their choice and their mistake.

conclusion: get your head out of your ass and buy a PC. You can always stick an Apple sticker on the casins if that makes you feel better.

please i tried to type a report that i spent an hour on when i wanted to insert a picture i realised i chose the wrong picture so still nothing wrong but when i inserted the pic all my data was gone fuck you apple you worthless piece of shit

apple suck, not because there products are made for the stupid, if I could make money selling under powered, impossible to fix at home, only able to use software/apps that I sell , I would and so would you

1) Apple suck because of the people that buy them, people buy an apple, then try to act like “wow, it’s so cool, and so am I because I own it” but it doesn’t do anything, that amazing, often it can’t do what a pc can….
so it’s aimed at stupid people that no nothing about technology, and want to impress other stupid people.

2) I look at it from my work, 3d design, I use 3ds max,
five years ago I spent close to 5000 building a system, cpu,ram, screen the lot…
it still has more power then I need today… but if I spent the same on an apple, I would have to buy a new one soon as I can’t stick new parts, cpu, gpu, ram etc into it to extend the life of the machine….

3) there inability to provide good working conditions and pay to those that make there products, apple often deny that they are responsible…
or refuse to improve conditions,
how much do they make a year, yet pay the least amount that they can, at the same time they portray themselves as a caring, non-evil company,

I absolutely hate Apple products. I bought an iPhone out of peer pressure and familiarity reasons. At first, it was nice, felt nice in my hands and run fast enough (enough, not great) But every time I tried to sync my stuff with iTunes, it messed EVERYTHING up. And I am REALLY anal about the organization on my phone. Asides from that, the phone had no flexibility at all and I can’t do anything cool with it.

Now for Macintosh computers, in all their shapes and forms, suck absolute shit. They SAY they can’t get viruses and obviously hackers will take that as a challenge. They can run office and work applications good, I’ll give them that, but anything above Word, it’s like trying to figure out quantum physics for a 10 year old kid with a below average IQ. Along with being incredibly incompetent, their supports will just say, and I quote, “I don’t understand the issue.”, “Your device has malfunctioned, please send it for repairs.”or “You don’t understand how to use our products.” Go fuck yourself Apple!

At last, but not least on my rampaging rant, the price. I can get a decent PC with a quad core and a good processor for no more than 500 dollars, and Apple will charge you 2000 dollars for a shitty computer. They added customizable parts too now, a core that runs decent, DECENT. You know how much that cost? 4000 dollars. I can get a core that runs way better than that for 250 dollars.

The majority of Apple’s products are too expensive,usually i prefer microsoft,they offer better compatibility on pcs.
I don’t care about expensive smartphones,they will allways suck because of their batteries.
I am a Windows user,so i would say Apple is good just for using net safelly,and nothing more.

I got on the Apple train in 2008 and loved it for a time. However, as a gamer, my options are limited, and to be honest, the quality of my Apple products is actually worse than my cheap-ass Dell. The DVD-ROM on my MacBook Pro stopped working after a year (and the screen on my husband’s iMac got these weird dark shadow splotches all over it after less than a year). The Apple Store is a fucking nightmare – I can’t deal with those smug blue-shirted motherfuckers. You ask these “geniuses” a simple question and they ask you to go take a number and make an appointment.

I’m buying a new computer in the next week, and I’m going back to PC. As much as I hate Windows, I just can’t stand Apple’s manufactured self-importance and how they release new products that are only incrementally better than the last and haven’t released anything truly innovative since Steve Jobs died. When I bought my iMac, iPhone, iPad and MacBook Pro, I was assured that I was buying a superior product with a slower rate of obsolescence – lies. Plus they’ve pulled support for the OS on my laptop, and their new OS for the iPad/iPhone looks and functions horribly.

So yeah, I was duped by the marketing and the hype, and all you’re paying for with a Mac is a machine with half the computing power of a PC for double the price. Plus, I don’t want to be associated with Apple fanboys and fangirls who line up outside the Apple Store for 3 days to get an iPhone that’s only marginally better than the last model. Owning an Apple doesn’t make you cool, trendy or artsy – it makes you a sucker. I know because I was one.

lol CRAPPLE NOT MADE WITH GORILLA GLASS LIKE MY SWEET S4 MINI.I LAUGH WHEN SOMEONE DROPS A CRAPPLE AND IT SHATTERS LIKE GLASS!!APPLE PIECE OF $$$ LONG LIVE NON APPLE USERS!!!MICROSOFT TAKE IT OVER YOU ALREADY HAVE SOMEWHAT DO THE WHOLE THING!!SAMSUNG KEEP SUING APPLE ALL THE WAY!!!APPLE WILL BE DEAD IN 5 YEARS GUARANTEED!!! STEVE BLOW JOBS IS AN IDIOT

Apple is meant for people that simple. If you don’t like apple then don’t buy there products. I personally like my android phone better than the iphone I used to have. My new android phone lets me do way more than the iphone ever let me do. But the iphone was still cool to have until I wanted to actually do stuff on it. BUT APPLE HAS ALOT MORE APPS THAN ANDROID

i did not say apple is bad… what i think is the USERS… THEY HAD BEEN SUCH A DICK TO MY ANDROID/WINDOWS DEVICE… I THINK THEY THOUGHT ANDROID ARE “WORSE” THAN THEIR CRAPPLES PRODUCT… WELL, THEY’RE WRONG!!! ANDROID/WINDOWS ARE MUCH BETTER THAN THEIR “APPLE”… APPLE ARE TOO CLOSE WITH THEIR PRODUCTS….