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Romney supporters attempt murder and commit suicide over Obama win

A Mesa, Arizona, woman was arrested over the weekend after allegedly chasing her husband around a Gilbert parking lot in an SUV, eventually pinning underneath the vehicle and a curb.
According to police, the woman, Holly Solomon, 28, believed her family’s hardships were going to increase as a result of President Obama’s re-election and she was angry with her husband for not voting.
Her husband, Daniel Solomon, is currently in the hospital in critical condition, but told police officers that his wife “just hated Obama” and was enraged at his re-election.

The self-hating faggot in Key West who decided it was the end of the world so he ends his life? Please.........give me a fucking break. That is the definition of drama queen. He owned a TANNING SALON in Key West......there's common sense for you.

Just reaffirms my mom's definition of "extraterrestrials" -- terrestrials we could do without.

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

While i'm sad that these people decided to permanently solve a temporary problem, it's still silly to kill yourself because Obama won. Killing yourself really stuck it to that gay socialist atheist Muslim!

Libertarians will feel no sorrow for the guy that committed suicide. It's their general ideology that if he wants to die, then he ought to be allowed to kill himself.

I am not a libertarian, but really? Killing yourself because Obama won? That queen had bigger issues than the presidency, as do all these cases. Just like the insurgence in massacres in this nation, when a political machine carries incessant rage against Obama, and he wins, this is what happens. Crazy people think that the pretend world of the GOP really is the real one.

They do this shit, and low and behold you find yourself acquainted with an entirely new arm of the American Government... Justice. Facts are still facts in the courts, and political head games are not considered truths, just motives for a crime.

We're gonna sit down and have ourselves a drink! And after we're done - after *I'm* done, you can run upstairs and take whichever one of them little pills makes you feel the best~Dolores Claiborne

These people were obviously in a deep state of psychological distress already. Unfortunately, we as a country don't take mental illness seriously enough. A lot of violence and suicide would be avoided if we did I suspect.

When crazy people were spoonfed bullshit from the GOP and Fox News about how far ahead they were in the polls and how it was going to be a Romney landslide, one can only expect this to happen. I think the GOP and Fox News are guilty of taking advantage of vulnerable people and manipulating them.

This reminds me of the gullible sheep who got fleeced by Harold Camping.

I've seen the pic of the woman who ran over her husband. Troubled.

As for Henry Hamilton....Seroquel and Xanax would seem to indicate a serious underlying psychiatric condition.

These people were obviously in a deep state of psychological distress already. Unfortunately, we as a country don't take mental illness seriously enough. A lot of violence and suicide would be avoided if we did I suspect.

This. Nobody - however stupid - takes their own life over an election, if they don't have deeper reasons for doing so. That said, you can only protect people from themselves so much.

That we are capable only of being what we are, remains our unforgivable sin.
- Gene Wolfe

This. Nobody - however stupid - takes their own life over an election, if they don't have deeper reasons for doing so. That said, you can only protect people from themselves so much.

But you can provide services and refuge. Want to know the largest institution for the mentally ill in the US of A? It's the Los Angeles County Jail. That's just indicative of the fact that except for those with wealthy families, for the most part Americans pay attention to the needy in their midst when they get so desperate or off-kilter that they commit crimes.

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

But you can provide services and refuge. Want to know the largest institution for the mentally ill in the US of A? It's the Los Angeles County Jail. That's just indicative of the fact that except for those with wealthy families, for the most part Americans pay attention to the needy in their midst when they get so desperate or off-kilter that they commit crimes.

I'm sorry to be insensitive here, but how about we educate people a bit more, so they develop more than ONE psychological layer and are capable of fixing their own problems without a giant mental health industry? Yes, many people do need professional help. But I bet ten times that number seek it simply because they are taught they can't deal with this stuff without it. Like so many things in this country, it's another way to get money from gullible folks.

That we are capable only of being what we are, remains our unforgivable sin.
- Gene Wolfe

I'm sorry to be insensitive here, but how about we educate people a bit more, so they develop more than ONE psychological layer and are capable of fixing their own problems without a giant mental health industry? Yes, many people do need professional help. But I bet ten times that number seek it simply because they are taught they can't deal with this stuff without it. Like so many things in this country, it's another way to get money from gullible folks.

We don't need a giant industry, we just need a modest support system. A large number of mentally ill in L.A. County Jail, Crook County Jail, and Riker's Island Jail -- the largest de facto treatment centers for the mentally ill (and drug addiction!) in the country -- would not need the "care" they're given if we just had a modest system that would get them through their initial problems and be there as a resource for relapse.

What we have now is a way of subsidizing the jail industry. We could free up half the space in the country's jails and save many millions of dollars just by providing that modest support.

And BTW, the pharmaceutical companies would fight such reform -- they sell more psych pills this way.

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

I'm sorry to be insensitive here, but how about we educate people a bit more, so they develop more than ONE psychological layer and are capable of fixing their own problems without a giant mental health industry? Yes, many people do need professional help. But I bet ten times that number seek it simply because they are taught they can't deal with this stuff without it. Like so many things in this country, it's another way to get money from gullible folks.

Have you ever spent anytime in correctional custody units anywhere in the nation? I have had the pleasure for a variety of reasons associated with my work. So tell me if a 16yo kid is in a stall separated from the other inmates because he likes to pace aggressively, spit and bang his head against the floor is that a failure to find another layer or being Nuckin Futs?

SPend a weekend watching lockup on MSNBC and tell me that these folks just didnt learn a successful layer .... then head down to any inner city area at around midnight and tell me how that layer stuff is working out for you.... then imagine you live in that environment 24/7.

Everyone can be great, because everyone can serve.~ Martin Luther King, Jr.

I'm sorry to be insensitive here, but how about we educate people a bit more, so they develop more than ONE psychological layer and are capable of fixing their own problems without a giant mental health industry? Yes, many people do need professional help. But I bet ten times that number seek it simply because they are taught they can't deal with this stuff without it. Like so many things in this country, it's another way to get money from gullible folks.

Speaking of more than one layer, how's about some attention span while reading posts past the first sentence you don't agree with?

That we are capable only of being what we are, remains our unforgivable sin.
- Gene Wolfe

But to the population you argue with Kuli about do you understand that they are all incarcerated? That many of those folks have similar problems and it has zero to do with layer development?

trust me I am the least likely person on these boards to simply give a warm hug and a pass to every issue I see but the problem with our mental health system is epidemic and culturally ingrained in parts of our society.

Part of many reasons why I believe health care for all is a damn good thing

Everyone can be great, because everyone can serve.~ Martin Luther King, Jr.

The self-hating faggot in Key West...owned a TANNING SALON in Key West......there's common sense for you.

Well, if you go to KW in January you may need to lay down a controlled base before you go out in the intense tropical sunlight.

Originally Posted by GiancarloC

When crazy people were spoonfed bullshit from the GOP and Fox News about how far ahead they were in the polls and how it was going to be a Romney landslide, one can only expect this to happen. I think the GOP and Fox News are guilty of taking advantage of vulnerable people and manipulating them.

I think this is where most of the problem comes from. It wasn't that they were disappointed; it's that they were SHOCKED. And they could only be shocked because they were mislead by sources that are anything from innumerate to blatantly untruthful. If you only looked at Fox News and Rasmussen polls and listened to Romney, Ryan, and Rove, you could get the impression that a Romney landslide was in the offing.

Even the mainstream (as opposed to right-wing propagandist like Fox News) press was, as usual, painting the Presidential race as close. And it was, in the popular vote, though not as close as they were claiming; but the popular vote is not how we elect the President of the United States. The Electoral College vote hasn't been close for months. The innumerate and the Constitutionally ignorant were counting on a few votes turning around at the last minute; unfortunately the ones that could have turned weren't in the swing states (except Florida, which went from pink to powder-blue while I was offline following Sandy).

Next time they should trust Nate Silver instead of Bill O'Reilly.

Originally Posted by Kulindahr

But you can provide services and refuge. Want to know the largest institution for the mentally ill in the US of A? It's the Los Angeles County Jail. That's just indicative of the fact that except for those with wealthy families, for the most part Americans pay attention to the needy in their midst when they get so desperate or off-kilter that they commit crimes.

This is why we need a comprehensive universal single-payer health system that includes mental health. And only the federal government can run a program that large.

I think this is where most of the problem comes from. It wasn't that they were disappointed; it's that they were SHOCKED. And they could only be shocked because they were mislead by sources that are anything from innumerate to blatantly untruthful. If you only looked at Fox News and Rasmussen polls and listened to Romney, Ryan, and Rove, you could get the impression that a Romney landslide was in the offing.

This is why we need a comprehensive universal single-payer health system that includes mental health. And only the federal government can run a program that large.

Hey I couldn't agree more with this statement. I drive a lot so I listen in occasionally to whatever rant Limbuagh is off on and because i have a general grasp of current news I can always tell what part of the story Limbaugh is leaving out. it is sickening and akin to yellow journalism in my humble opinion.

Everyone can be great, because everyone can serve.~ Martin Luther King, Jr.

But to the population you argue with Kuli about do you understand that they are all incarcerated? That many of those folks have similar problems and it has zero to do with layer development?

trust me I am the least likely person on these boards to simply give a warm hug and a pass to every issue I see but the problem with our mental health system is epidemic and culturally ingrained in parts of our society.

Part of many reasons why I believe health care for all is a damn good thing

I guess there was some static. The way I understood it, he was just giving the jail as an example of how the system is not well equipped to deal with mentally disturbed people. I don't think he was talking exclusively about prisoners.

That we are capable only of being what we are, remains our unforgivable sin.
- Gene Wolfe

But to the population you argue with Kuli about do you understand that they are all incarcerated? That many of those folks have similar problems and it has zero to do with layer development?

trust me I am the least likely person on these boards to simply give a warm hug and a pass to every issue I see but the problem with our mental health system is epidemic and culturally ingrained in parts of our society.

Part of many reasons why I believe health care for all is a damn good thing

Mental health care for all would save money on the whole. In jails, they're just given drugs, and then other drugs to keep them docile. In actual care, they'd be kept to a minimum of drugs with a goal of getting them free completely. And in jails, they just learn new ways to act out, thus guaranteeing more crime.

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

Well, if you go to KW in January you may need to lay down a controlled base before you go out in the intense tropical sunlight.

I think this is where most of the problem comes from. It wasn't that they were disappointed; it's that they were SHOCKED. And they could only be shocked because they were mislead by sources that are anything from innumerate to blatantly untruthful. If you only looked at Fox News and Rasmussen polls and listened to Romney, Ryan, and Rove, you could get the impression that a Romney landslide was in the offing.

Even the mainstream (as opposed to right-wing propagandist like Fox News) press was, as usual, painting the Presidential race as close. And it was, in the popular vote, though not as close as they were claiming; but the popular vote is not how we elect the President of the United States. The Electoral College vote hasn't been close for months. The innumerate and the Constitutionally ignorant were counting on a few votes turning around at the last minute; unfortunately the ones that could have turned weren't in the swing states (except Florida, which went from pink to powder-blue while I was offline following Sandy).

"Shocked" isn't a sufficient word. Imagine waking up one morning and finding that the world wide wide did not, in fact, exist, and JUB was a board managed by NOM to "heal" us all.

That's comparable for many Republicans: their reality was shattered.

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

I guess there was some static. The way I understood it, he was just giving the jail as an example of how the system is not well equipped to deal with mentally disturbed people. I don't think he was talking exclusively about prisoners.

No, I wasn't. But the jail situation is exemplary of how we as a society don't want to help the mentally ill yet want the government to keep them out of our way.

Ironically, opposing government care for the mentally ill is actually an argument for bigger government, in the form of police and jails.

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

"Shocked" isn't a sufficient word. Imagine waking up one morning and finding that the world wide wide did not, in fact, exist, and JUB was a board managed by NOM to "heal" us all.

That's comparable for many Republicans: their reality was shattered.

Yep. I think you're dead-on there. But the point is, they voluntarily gave themselves to the false world they were living in, and they did it for YEARS before this election.

Originally Posted by Kulindahr

No, I wasn't. But the jail situation is exemplary of how we as a society don't want to help the mentally ill yet want the government to keep them out of our way.

Ironically, opposing government care for the mentally ill is actually an argument for bigger government, in the form of police and jails.

Well, that depends on how you count private for-profit prisons, a burgeoning industry in this country. Their lobby is why we have mandatory-minimum sentences and pernicious memes like "if you do the crime, you should do the time" (keying right into the stupid-person belief that if something rhymes it must be true).

I guess there was some static. The way I understood it, he was just giving the jail as an example of how the system is not well equipped to deal with mentally disturbed people. I don't think he was talking exclusively about prisoners.

Originally Posted by Kulindahr

Mental health care for all would save money on the whole. In jails, they're just given drugs, and then other drugs to keep them docile. In actual care, they'd be kept to a minimum of drugs with a goal of getting them free completely. And in jails, they just learn new ways to act out, thus guaranteeing more crime.

Yeah I am not trying to piss in anyone's Wheaties but it is clearly evident to me that our incarcerated population does not receive adequate mental health care. By care I mean cared for to a successful outcome. Not just having a chat with a different mental health worker every time a prisoner has an outburst...

One could easily argue Texas has the reputation of being the toughest penal system on crime... remember the joking about other states banning death penalties while Texas put in a speed line....? Well Texas finally realized that being at the forefront of incarceration was going to bankrupt the state... so they changed to rehab and training instead of incarceration for many crimes....

(I highly encourage anyone with a interest in our incarcerated nation
to read this article and more on Texas they are doing wonderful things)

They have been so successful last year they did something that has never occurred before in Texas. They closed a prison.

Treatment and training is the answer for these folks run over by our capitalistic society of self attainment. For whatever reason they were never given a chance and I would argue faulty thinking has a strong basis for why these folks do things incorrectly. Faulty thinking can be overcome through treatment...

Think of it this way... would anyone argue that a criminal was thinking incorrectly when they stole or even murdered?

Everyone can be great, because everyone can serve.~ Martin Luther King, Jr.

Yeah, the guy from Unskewed Polls admitted after the fact that he was wrong and Nate Silver was right, which I thought was actually pretty good of him. But you don't "unskew" things by changing the sampling to favor the side you want! You'd think any non-innumerate person would know that.

Well, that depends on how you count private for-profit prisons, a burgeoning industry in this country. Their lobby is why we have mandatory-minimum sentences and pernicious memes like "if you do the crime, you should do the time" (keying right into the stupid-person belief that if something rhymes it must be true).

Not just their lobby -- the "lock them up" lobby in government is hefty as well. Sheriffs and police chiefs build their little empires and try to expand them at every chance. Prosecutors assist them because it makes them look good to lock criminals up.

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

Yeah I am not trying to piss in anyone's Wheaties but it is clearly evident to me that our incarcerated population does not receive adequate mental health care. By care I mean cared for to a successful outcome. Not just having a chat with a different mental health worker every time a prisoner has an outburst...

Three different mental health professionals have admitted to me that half of what is done "for" the mentally ill in incarceration pushes people toward suicide and exacerbates other problems as well. The only sensible solution is to get them out of the prison system, period, and into places where they can be treated, where most can be stabilized for new lives.

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

The self-hating faggot in Key West who decided it was the end of the world so he ends his life? Please.........give me a fucking break. That is the definition of drama queen. He owned a TANNING SALON in Key West......there's common sense for you.

Gay or not, how about us Gays not use those terms? It frankly gives ammo to Straights ... which is no different than Blacks who call each other "Nigger". What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

There are words everyone doesn't like. I used faggot in my post because I thought it was appropriate given the fact that somebody would off themselves (especially a gay man) just because Obama was re-elected. I wanted it's usage to invoke some emotion or feeling from the reader about just how fucking stupid this person's suicide was, and just how truly stupid the person was for doing it.

When I'm talking to friends and family, gay or straight, I use the word on occasion and will continue to do so. I think if gays take ownership of the word, it will eventually lose most or all of any power people perceive it as having.

The word queer is offensive to me, and it is just as offensive when its a group of gays using it to describe 'us'. No. They can call themselves queer if they want, but don't include me in that.

I'm not odd or unusual or stange, and i don't need a word to describe me as such, nor do i need it as slang for gay, when gay IS the slang.

Strange. I got the email. There is an entire movement of young people that refuses to label itself as "gay" or "lesbian" or "transgender", and calls itself "queer". It's an LGBT mainstream term with almost zero negative connotation now.

That we are capable only of being what we are, remains our unforgivable sin.
- Gene Wolfe

The word queer is offensive to me, and it is just as offensive when its a group of gays using it to describe 'us'. No. They can call themselves queer if they want, but don't include me in that.

I'm not odd or unusual or stange, and i don't need a word to describe me as such, nor do i need it as slang for gay, when gay IS the slang.

I was talking to the contractor that works on some of my properties when tenants move out... general facelift stuff.

He told me that the new tennant was.... he paused... well not normal gay like me, that act like normal men, but one of those.... and he did the limp wrist thing.

He is a good man, but he is a product of his environment. Up in New England, there is a weird thing developing now, where gay people are accepted openly so long as they don't always " act so gay". As we, the gay community assimilate into the general society in new england, there is that weird thing....

It's like the way dark blacks are treated by lighter skinned black.

I think the gay movement is heading into the "it's ok to be gay as long as you can pass as straight" in general society, not by really hiding your homosexuality, but by behaving in ways that do not make it obvious on a moment to moment basis. I THINK people are at the point, the older conservative manual labor types, that they want to be courteous, but are uncomfortable with reminders of it while interacting.

I think that's one reason that there is so much teeth gnashing going on at gay pride parades about hiding the flamers and the dragqueens.

People want to maintain this detente.

We're gonna sit down and have ourselves a drink! And after we're done - after *I'm* done, you can run upstairs and take whichever one of them little pills makes you feel the best~Dolores Claiborne

In what context exactly, is using the term queer, NOT reinforcing the narrow mind?

In the context where the young generation of Americans don't see it as offensive. Maybe it's different in the UK but I promise you that a lot of gender/sexuality non-conforming kids are using the all-encompassing term queer now. There is a field of gender studies called "queer studies" too. So yes, at least in America the term "queer" today is not offensive.

That we are capable only of being what we are, remains our unforgivable sin.
- Gene Wolfe

One of the first gay bars I ever walked into had a big sign that said "If you're here / you're queer".

One of the more lively ones I've ever visited had a song asserting pride in being queer (along with being fudgepackers and other things).

Just saying I've heard more gays call themselves queer than straights use the term at all.

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

Yeah I am not trying to piss in anyone's Wheaties but it is clearly evident to me that our incarcerated population does not receive adequate mental health care. By care I mean cared for to a successful outcome. Not just having a chat with a different mental health worker every time a prisoner has an outburst...

One could easily argue Texas has the reputation of being the toughest penal system on crime... remember the joking about other states banning death penalties while Texas put in a speed line....? Well Texas finally realized that being at the forefront of incarceration was going to bankrupt the state... so they changed to rehab and training instead of incarceration for many crimes....

(I highly encourage anyone with a interest in our incarcerated nation
to read this article and more on Texas they are doing wonderful things) [/CENTER]

They have been so successful last year they did something that has never occurred before in Texas. They closed a prison.

Treatment and training is the answer for these folks run over by our capitalistic society of self attainment. For whatever reason they were never given a chance and I would argue faulty thinking has a strong basis for why these folks do things incorrectly. Faulty thinking can be overcome through treatment...

Think of it this way... would anyone argue that a criminal was thinking incorrectly when they stole or even murdered?

Never heard of it. Thanks for the post.
I assume I never heard of it because I'm on the email list for the executions. I feel this has not changed. Perry likes the feeling when they inject the felon.

BEWARE! Harassing the Indian may result in sudden and severe hair loss.

I was talking to the contractor that works on some of my properties when tenants move out... general facelift stuff.

He told me that the new tennant was.... he paused... well not normal gay like me, that act like normal men, but one of those.... and he did the limp wrist thing.

He is a good man, but he is a product of his environment. Up in New England, there is a weird thing developing now, where gay people are accepted openly so long as they don't always " act so gay". As we, the gay community assimilate into the general society in new england, there is that weird thing....

It's like the way dark blacks are treated by lighter skinned black.

I think the gay movement is heading into the "it's ok to be gay as long as you can pass as straight" in general society, not by really hiding your homosexuality, but by behaving in ways that do not make it obvious on a moment to moment basis. I THINK people are at the point, the older conservative manual labor types, that they want to be courteous, but are uncomfortable with reminders of it while interacting.

I think that's one reason that there is so much teeth gnashing going on at gay pride parades about hiding the flamers and the dragqueens.

People want to maintain this detente.

Dammit, Keith did it again!
When will I learn?
As for your post it probably work nation wide but will everyone (Gay that is) want to do it?

BEWARE! Harassing the Indian may result in sudden and severe hair loss.

The Texas prison phenomenon is amazing. It's been advocated for years, and Texas is about the last place I thought it would take root. But it's been the norm in much of the western world for a long time, so it was known it would work.

On the other strain here, I have at least once heard the word "queer" used in negative fashion, but the response was several gays together chanting, "We're queer, we're here -- live with it, dear". I loved the last line, which made the guy trying to insult just one of them furious.

I heard it another time as an insult and the response was, "Everyone's queer, some are gay". I'm not sure what that was supposed to mean, but then it confused the other guy, so I guess it landed well.

Note that in neither case did the gays object to the word or find it insulting.

Meanwhile, in dozens of other cases I've heard gays use it nearly or totally proudly.

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

Yeah thats right, i frequently wear tight t-shirts and mince about listening to Celine Dion, whilst wafting my boa containing hands around the place bitching at the tv about some ugly chick that needs to get a perm. On my days off, the rest of the time, i'm just faking who i am...

I just knew it... and you said you were straight acting....

When does the socially acceptable to the gay prudes dictionary come out.... I am looking for the "Crazy as a Fundie" Version.....

Everyone can be great, because everyone can serve.~ Martin Luther King, Jr.

I am sorry, Mitch, but do you EVER pay ANY attention to context? And for that matter - wording? Are you aware of what the term "acting" means? It means pretending. Many of us aren't "that gay", but to advertize it as some advantage (it's not) or a point of honor (it's not) or a plight to be accepted (it shouldn't be) is completely pathetic. Furthermore, this is a term most often used in hook up sites by headless torsos too closeted to even show their face, who are so disgusted with anything "gay" that they can only stomach sex with other males if the other guy exudes dudeness with every burp and fart. It's disgusting and sad.

You aren't straight acting. You are you. Just because maybe you have more qualities associated with straight men than the gay stereotype (so do I, and I imagine so does Giancarlo), should not be reason to label yourself with a derogatory auto-homophobic label. Words matter. The images those words create, the stereotypes they enforce, matter. No self-respecting proud gay man is "straight-acting", even if he's the manliest man that ever manned.

Last edited by Rolyo85; November 19th, 2012 at 12:42 PM.

That we are capable only of being what we are, remains our unforgivable sin.
- Gene Wolfe