Rise & Fall: Civilizations at War demo is out!!! Totally didn't expect it to be out this early.

Since I'm lazy, he's the ebgames link to it...has screenshots. Been following this one for a while. Looks really good. I'm downloading the demo now but will post feedback once I've had a chance to play.

PS. Has anyone picked up either Space Rangers 2 or Hearts of Iron Doomsday? I picked up HoI: Doomsday last night, was about to install it. I still don't know whats different, and why I spent $20 for it. Anyone know the first half?

Heh. Seems a number of companies have cancelled contracts with StarForce, between the complaints from users whose computers have been screwed up by it, and the way the Star Farce guys posted links to pirated downloads of GalCiv2.

Yeah, I was thrilled when I heard Ubisoft dropped SF, now I can finally buy HoMM V with peace of mind. (Yes, it was confirmed HoMM V will not have SF)
In case you haven't seen: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/news/s...6147655&page=1
Just read the 108 comments, about 107 of them are from people who are happy about it

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WTF?? They posted links to pir8 sites? Thats just cold. I know the President or one of the top dogs at Star Force is nazi-like in his pursit of nay-sayers, but I didn't know it went to that level of assdom.

Anyhow, there is a non-starforce version of space rangers 2 coming out at the end of April. Its a download version through direct2play or something. The kick is, that you can only install it three times per license. I hope thats not what I think it means...I PM'ed one of the mods over on the SR2 boards to confirm. Anyhow, I am debating if its worth it or not if it is, because it looks like a damn fine game.

I never understood that what is this Starforce hysteria. I got many games using Starforce copy protection, and I never had any problems with my computer + laptop. I think if you have winxp [pro] with all updates, starforce wont cause any problems ever, at least i know many people with the same updated system like mine, they bought starforce protected games, and they never had a problem at all...of course they got different hardware.

"Training is principally an act of faith. The athlete must believe in its efficacy: he must believe that through training he will become fitter and stronger, that by constant repetition of the same movements he will become more skillful."

Yep. And it's not just interfering with games : SF has also caused a lot of people's CD/DVD burner drives to be unusable, and also opens holes that compromise security of the computer, allowing viruses to slip in and _then_ be undetectable by anti-virus software because of StarForce.

About Starfu... huh Starfarce, I made the big error of unknowingly buying a pair of "protected" CDs . Well they were so well protected that I never ever succeeded in starting a game, I had to get noCD "pirate" patch to be able to play the game I bought ! [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Envy.gif[/img]
This on a quite standard rig that had very very few problems with games (I play 30+ a year, from DOS antiquities like MoM to things like Elder Scrolls or Nexus).
So go figure ... Since I try to avoid them like plague !

Edit : didn't know Space Rangers 2 at all, looks quite cool, even is said to be TBS !! Does someone plays it ? Where can I get it ?

"Training is principally an act of faith. The athlete must believe in its efficacy: he must believe that through training he will become fitter and stronger, that by constant repetition of the same movements he will become more skillful."