It's a short drive from a picturesque wee town called Marton, closest you'll get to the Scottish experience with more pubs per capita than anywhere else in the country.

Really? I spent a lot of time in Marton as a child, my grandmother lived there. I assumed it was dead now. Does it really still exist?

Far from being dead it is now the cultural and financial hub for a population close to 20,000 people. It boasts an all new New World super market, a refurbished Farmlands, a Holden dealership, two of the most prestigious private schools in the country (of course they don't like that fact attached) and at least 3 distinct main roads, a town with no clear identity. The closure of Lake Ellice added a whole new dimension of quirky Uber intellects drawing comparisons to other global cultural hubs such as the picturesque Cuba Street in Wellington or the inner suburbs of Henderson. Marton truly epitomises the (not so) rural Kiwi former service town cum intellectual mecca, Its no wonder it was on the shortlist for NZs most beautiful town in 1983.

It's a short drive from a picturesque wee town called Marton, closest you'll get to the Scottish experience with more pubs per capita than anywhere else in the country.

Really? I spent a lot of time in Marton as a child, my grandmother lived there. I assumed it was dead now. Does it really still exist?

Far from being dead it is now the cultural and financial hub for a population close to 20,000 people. It boasts an all new New World super market, a refurbished Farmlands, a Holden dealership, two of the most prestigious private schools in the country (of course they don't like that fact attached) and at least 3 distinct main roads, a town with no clear identity. The closure of Lake Ellice added a whole new dimension of quirky Uber intellects drawing comparisons to other global cultural hubs such as the picturesque Cuba Street in Wellington or the inner suburbs of Henderson. Marton truly epitomises the (not so) rural Kiwi former service town cum intellectual mecca, Its no wonder it was on the shortlist for NZs most beautiful town in 1983.

The good people at wikipedia tell me it is also the home town of Israel Dagg.

It's a short drive from a picturesque wee town called Marton, closest you'll get to the Scottish experience with more pubs per capita than anywhere else in the country.

Really? I spent a lot of time in Marton as a child, my grandmother lived there. I assumed it was dead now. Does it really still exist?

Far from being dead it is now the cultural and financial hub for a population close to 20,000 people. It boasts an all new New World super market, a refurbished Farmlands, a Holden dealership, two of the most prestigious private schools in the country (of course they don't like that fact attached) and at least 3 distinct main roads, a town with no clear identity. The closure of Lake Ellice added a whole new dimension of quirky Uber intellects drawing comparisons to other global cultural hubs such as the picturesque Cuba Street in Wellington or the inner suburbs of Henderson. Marton truly epitomises the (not so) rural Kiwi former service town cum intellectual mecca, Its no wonder it was on the shortlist for NZs most beautiful town in 1983.

The good people at wikipedia tell me it is also the home town of Israel Dagg.

Drive directly to the office, don't get the tour from within Town as it costs a lot more.

Also, you can actually stay longer at the Green Dragon and order more beer/food but they don't tell you.

Awesome, that's a great wee tip. Given it's the manifestation of a fictional place, I won't lose out on the tour guide's historical knowledge of the site either.

For me it was very nostalgic as I'm from Devon - sitting in the pub with an Ale, a huge slab of Pork Pie watching the sun stream through the glass......it was like being back home

Did the hairy feet increase the homely Devon sensation?

Joking aside, I know what you mean- the only pub I can find in Sydney that is even remotely ye olde worldly is the Lord Dudley. Having lived in Edinburgh and London for many years, I miss the classic Victorian pub.

Joking aside, I know what you mean- the only pub I can find in Sydney that is even remotely ye olde worldly is the Lord Dudley. Having lived in Edinburgh and London for many years, I miss the classic Victorian pub.

Haven't you been to the Lord Nelson!?!

The Dudley is good but a bit out of the way.

Rozelle and Balmain have a few old style pubs - although a couple have closed recently.

Believe it or not, the best "English" style pub in Oz is in Albany. Probably due to the Whalers being based there but coming from the UK originally.

Joking aside, I know what you mean- the only pub I can find in Sydney that is even remotely ye olde worldly is the Lord Dudley. Having lived in Edinburgh and London for many years, I miss the classic Victorian pub.

Joking aside, I know what you mean- the only pub I can find in Sydney that is even remotely ye olde worldly is the Lord Dudley. Having lived in Edinburgh and London for many years, I miss the classic Victorian pub.

Haven't you been to the Lord Nelson!?!

The Dudley is good but a bit out of the way.

Rozelle and Balmain have a few old style pubs - although a couple have closed recently.

Believe it or not, the best "English" style pub in Oz is in Albany. Probably due to the Whalers being based there but coming from the UK originally.

Is the Lord Nelson also free of door staff? An unexpected sneeze seems to get one chucked out these days. That's incidentally why I like the Dudley (and indeed Bat Country in Randwick) as there's no bouncers (at least not when I've been there).Yeah, I used to live in Balmain East and I loved the high street along there but have actually never been to Rozelle (shamefully).

Is the Lord Nelson also free of door staff? An unexpected sneeze seems to get one chucked out these days. That's incidentally why I like the Dudley (and indeed Bat Country in Randwick) as there's no bouncers (at least not when I've been there).Yeah, I used to live in Balmain East and I loved the high street along there but have actually never been to Rozelle (shamefully).

Yep.

I go there fairly regularly.

Rozelle is actually preferable to Balmain nowadays.

You should really join the Sydney Cabal, although it's a bit broken at present...

Is the Lord Nelson also free of door staff? An unexpected sneeze seems to get one chucked out these days. That's incidentally why I like the Dudley (and indeed Bat Country in Randwick) as there's no bouncers (at least not when I've been there).Yeah, I used to live in Balmain East and I loved the high street along there but have actually never been to Rozelle (shamefully).

Yep.

I go there fairly regularly.

Rozelle is actually preferable to Balmain nowadays.

You should really join the Sydney Cabal, although it's a bit broken at present...

That's good to know: Sydney's pub scene has been utterly ruined by overzealous local bureaucrats insisting that outside companies are hired to do the door. My record was, after going to withdraw some cash at the ATM, I was refused re-entry to the Coogee Bay Hotel despite still having a bit of my 1st pint left on the table. .

How does one join the Sydney Cabal? Would be good to know if people are off to watch some games.

Marton truly epitomises the (not so) rural Kiwi former service town cum intellectual mecca, Its no wonder it was on the shortlist for NZs most beautiful town in 1983.

Well I'm happy to hear that. I have a soft spot for the place after my 2nd cousin showed me how to ride his motor cycle on his farm there when I must have been, oh, at least 9 or 10. I was always a bit miffed a tractor rolled on him.

That's good to know: Sydney's pub scene has been utterly ruined by overzealous local bureaucrats insisting that outside companies are hired to do the door. My record was, after going to withdraw some cash at the ATM, I was refused re-entry to the Coogee Bay Hotel despite still having a bit of my 1st pint left on the table. .

How does one join the Sydney Cabal? Would be good to know if people are off to watch some games.

Any adventure stuff (jetboating, Bungy, Skydiving, rafting etc) is much cheaper to do in Taupo, rather than Queenstown.

Great pie shop in Taupo...coming from Huka falls/Craters of the moon, down the hill into Taupo, across the bridge, up the hill, turn left onto Spa road (supermarket on your left), a hundred metres or so on your left is a pie shop....great pies.

I drive past that pie shop daily on the way to work.

Didn't realise what I was missing!!! (I have had a pie from there and thought it was good but not worthy of a world wide plug on PR ).

Any adventure stuff (jetboating, Bungy, Skydiving, rafting etc) is much cheaper to do in Taupo, rather than Queenstown.

Great pie shop in Taupo...coming from Huka falls/Craters of the moon, down the hill into Taupo, across the bridge, up the hill, turn left onto Spa road (supermarket on your left), a hundred metres or so on your left is a pie shop....great pies.

I drive past that pie shop daily on the way to work.

Didn't realise what I was missing!!! (I have had a pie from there and thought it was good but not worthy of a world wide plug on PR ).

There is a small bakery in Masterton, middle of the main drag, that serves magnificent pies. Try the steak and mushroom. The pastry is excellent and heaps of filling.

This Rotorua discussion has gone a bit weird. Any time I hosted someone from overseas Rotorua has always been a well loved stop (and think of how hard it is for someone from Magpies country to say that about Steamers country).

There's lots that 'tourists' like to do and visit, even if a grumpy NZer doesn't.

That's fair. If it sounds and looks like it would be your thing then go for it. I'd recommend Coromandel and Waitomo as tourist spots in that general part of the country over Rotorua though.

One last defence of Rotorua then I'll give up. Totally disagree. Where can you see the stuff Rotorua has anywhere in the rest of the world? Only a handful of places and Rotorua would probably be the easiest to access. Coromandel is beautiful but is a bit out of the way. September/October, when the OP is here isn't really the ideal time for the Coromandel either. And Waitomo, other than the caves has...what? Plus it is out of the way. Rotorua is on the way south to Taupo, another spot that shouldn't be missed so why would you avoid it? If the wonders of nature don't interest you, maybe if you have been to Yellowstone and it didn't do it for you, sure, give Rotorua a pass. But otherwise as an international tourist you would be mad to bypass Rotorua. You'd be missing a unique part of not just NZ but the world. Just don't go expecting Queenstown like scenery or a pumping nightlife and you'll be fine.

One other great thing I'd point out about Rotovegas (although probably irrelevant to this thread and Caley-Red) is the awesome mountain biking in the Redwoods and the recently added downhill at the gondola. People literally travel from all around the world to ride these trails. World famous, literally.

Marton truly epitomises the (not so) rural Kiwi former service town cum intellectual mecca, Its no wonder it was on the shortlist for NZs most beautiful town in 1983.

Well I'm happy to hear that. I have a soft spot for the place after my 2nd cousin showed me how to ride his motor cycle on his farm there when I must have been, oh, at least 9 or 10. I was always a bit miffed a tractor rolled on him.

I remember a newspaper headline from years ago, after a tractor rolled on an AB forward (can't remember who it was)

Marton truly epitomises the (not so) rural Kiwi former service town cum intellectual mecca, Its no wonder it was on the shortlist for NZs most beautiful town in 1983.

Well I'm happy to hear that. I have a soft spot for the place after my 2nd cousin showed me how to ride his motor cycle on his farm there when I must have been, oh, at least 9 or 10. I was always a bit miffed a tractor rolled on him.

I remember a newspaper headline from years ago, after a tractor rolled on an AB forward (can't remember who it was)

"Tractor damaged when rolling on All Black forward".

Might have been Ken Gray.

Ken Gray farmed in Plimmerton I think. Marton is flat - how does a tractor roll on someone there? But I think Jazz Muller might have ended up there from memory.

Marton truly epitomises the (not so) rural Kiwi former service town cum intellectual mecca, Its no wonder it was on the shortlist for NZs most beautiful town in 1983.

Well I'm happy to hear that. I have a soft spot for the place after my 2nd cousin showed me how to ride his motor cycle on his farm there when I must have been, oh, at least 9 or 10. I was always a bit miffed a tractor rolled on him.

I remember a newspaper headline from years ago, after a tractor rolled on an AB forward (can't remember who it was)

"Tractor damaged when rolling on All Black forward".

Might have been Ken Gray.

Ken Gray farmed in Plimmerton I think. Marton is flat - how does a tractor roll on someone there? But I think Jazz Muller might have ended up there from memory.

Jazz Muller....could well have been him.. you could roll a tractor on a stopbank, or maybe just putting a wheel into a ditch.

Marton truly epitomises the (not so) rural Kiwi former service town cum intellectual mecca, Its no wonder it was on the shortlist for NZs most beautiful town in 1983.

Well I'm happy to hear that. I have a soft spot for the place after my 2nd cousin showed me how to ride his motor cycle on his farm there when I must have been, oh, at least 9 or 10. I was always a bit miffed a tractor rolled on him.

I remember a newspaper headline from years ago, after a tractor rolled on an AB forward (can't remember who it was)

"Tractor damaged when rolling on All Black forward".

Might have been Ken Gray.

Ken Gray farmed in Plimmerton I think. Marton is flat - how does a tractor roll on someone there? But I think Jazz Muller might have ended up there from memory.

Just a few minutes north of Marton all the farmland turns to rolling hills.

Marton truly epitomises the (not so) rural Kiwi former service town cum intellectual mecca, Its no wonder it was on the shortlist for NZs most beautiful town in 1983.

Well I'm happy to hear that. I have a soft spot for the place after my 2nd cousin showed me how to ride his motor cycle on his farm there when I must have been, oh, at least 9 or 10. I was always a bit miffed a tractor rolled on him.

I remember a newspaper headline from years ago, after a tractor rolled on an AB forward (can't remember who it was)

"Tractor damaged when rolling on All Black forward".

Might have been Ken Gray.

Ken Gray farmed in Plimmerton I think. Marton is flat - how does a tractor roll on someone there? But I think Jazz Muller might have ended up there from memory.

Yeah, I met his brother a few years back and he told me the family had basically owned all the land on the eastern side of SH1 from Plimmerton to Pukerua Bay.