Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47

this here fella Rob makes the best argument or as gentlemen agree not to agree, kindly, but that udlx was a grand tractor, not much liked in its day but really unique and the other thought I had was to that three-point that was handy too!

Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47

deere dain tractor would be most expensive as well as being very rare..only one running..two others accounted for ..established value..that is what was actually offered for the restored one..1.5 million dollars..none other can top that price.

Re: Re: Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to It is a fake., 01-10-2003 08:53:16

the owner and jd corp have records to back up the statement that it is the 1st series of deere tractor..call jd corperate and ask them...they even tried to buy it from him but being that they disputed his word for so long until they found the records he will not sell to them..say what you will but it has been documented and is still worth 1.5 mill..what do you have that is even close to that?if you have proof that it is otherwise then share it with all of us..also would like a list of your sources and we can get to the bottom of this

Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47

Rare examples of many tractors are out there. I have always been facinated with those that were mostly rejected initially and then became the standard of the industry. McCormick made a four wheel drive tractor (I've seen one personnaly) but most farmers needed too much ground to turn them around, so innovation had to stew on that idea for a while. The Minniapollis Moline UDLX or Delux cab U model was soundly rejected by many farmers (many units had their cabs removed so dealers could sell them) but yet the remaining examples are coveted. Just look at all modern large equipment, all with cabs and four wheel drive. Though not as rare as in production numbers these tractors were revolutionary. In weighing tractor rare-ness viablility of the company and production numbers should matter to some degree, no offense, `I could build a tractor and it would be a one of a kind, not necessarily a great collectable.' my two cents

Re: Re: Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to Never seen one of these! , 01-09-2003 14:06:18

Not very long according to tractor historians. They were almost made in Lame Duck, Oklahoma and production lasted until the first coffee break in the morning. A coupla gals from the seamstress shop down the street dropped into the factory and the factory boys sort of got more interested in them than the production line. The rest of course is history ... by noon the whole blamed operation was into chapter 11.

Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47

There are a lot of tractors with low production numbers that only have 1 or 2 examples known to exist. The ILLINOIS tractor built by the Bloomington Silo Co., Only 2 known to exist. The Elgin Tractor; only one known to exist. The Hume tractor. Only one known to exist. The HT340 IH experimental tractor owned by the Smithsonian and displayed at last years Red Power Roundup. Hart Parr #3 which is owned by the Smithsonian and will be displayed at the National HPOCA National Summer Show in Penfield, IL this summer. How about the AC 10-18, I think only 8 or 9 are known to exist and one of them sold in PA a couple of years ago for $31,000. The list of these tractors is huge, I've just named a few that can be seen on a regular basis. John

Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47

There are a lot of tractors with low production numbers that only have 1 or 2 examples known to exist. The ILLINOIS tractor built by the Bloomington Silo Co., Only 2 known to exist. The Elgin Tractor; only one known to exist. The Hume tractor. Only one known to exist. The HT340 IH experimental tractor owned by the Smithsonian and displayed at last years Red Power Roundup. Hart Parr #3 which is owned by the Smithsonian and will be displayed at the National HPOCA National Summer Show in Penfield, IL this summer. How about the AC 10-18, I think only 8 or 9 are known to exist and one of them sold in PA a couple of years ago for $31,000. The list of these tractors is huge, I've just named a few that can be seen on a regular basis. John

Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47

When it comes to true rare tractors the tractors built by IH, JD, MH, Oliver, Cockshutt, Case, MM, etc don't even come close. One of the rarest is American Steel Tractor, only 5 were built. There are many many more like that. Get a copy of CH Wendel's book Encylopedia of American Farm Tractors.

Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47

Wendall's encyclopedia of tractors listed the Peoria as extinct and believed no examples are left. I saw one at a midwest tractor show driven by an 98 year old fellow. This may be the only surviving Peoria tractor (looks like the Little Bull tractor). On the whole subject, any one example left would put it in the museum catagory and its worth is what someone would be willing to pay for it. Some example just wouldn't be for sale period.

Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47

Even though these two are more recent tractors,neither was built in large quantities. Only about 30 or so of each were sold. The 1502 six wheel bogie tractor and the bend-in-the-middle H-800 both from Valmet.

Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47

The JD Dain 3 wheeled tractor, all wheel drive. Very few ever built. I believe there is 1 in restored/working condition and only a couple others that are in major disrepair.

There are other rare tractors, such as Farmall diesel high crops of which in some series there were only 5 to 25 or so built.

As far as the future of rare tractors, I'm hanging on to our 544 of which there were around 6000 or so made. Newer models will be rarer in the years to come since they switched models so often there weren't many made. For example the IH 6788 2+2 only had 348 ever made. Also the 3488 hydro had only around 500 copies made.

Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47

I saw an 3 wheeled Emerson Brangintam. The owner said it was the only that existed. We have a 1932 Caterpillar Auto Patrol No 7. Only 125 were made with ours being the 13th one made. According to what I was told (true or not) there are 2 more besides ours that are accounted for. However, being a road grader, I would be surprised to see it go for more than what we put into it which is not much. Tractors I way more collectable than road graders.

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