MMM Receives Legal Threats – Great Lawyer Wanted

The threats are real.. but how we respond to them is our choice.

Sigh. I suppose this was bound to happen sometime.

This blog is approaching its third birthday and has been blessed with over 62 million page views from 5.2 million people and counting. Many people have helped and contributed along the way, and while we rant, swear, and speak out against many aspects of our culture, there have been very few bumps along the way. Even the corporate world that we occasionally mock has left us alone. Until now.

A few weeks ago, a flurry of registered letters and FedEx packages started arriving at the Mustache residence. They were from a law firm representing a company who didn’t like something that had been said by a member of the Forum section of this website.

How did they even find out about this conversation, you might ask? Through Google searches. After all these years, this website has garnered sufficient page rank that when we talk about something, it shows up high in the search engine rankings. The company was apparently Googling their own name, found something they did not agree with, and decided they wanted to silence the critics. Here’s a copy of that first letter, signed by the chairman:

The first threat. In retrospect I have learned it is complete bullshit, but it was scary at the time.

From what I could tell, there wasn’t much merit to their complaint. They were asking me to take down posts that a reader had made regarding their company, alleging that it was “Libelous”. Never mind the fact that Section 230 of Title 47 of the United States Code holds that website owners cannot be held responsible for comments that their users make.

I could have taken it down anyway and been free from the hassle. But the whole thing seemed like bullshit to me. If I’m going to sit here and write about financial independence and the freedom it gives you from putting up with bullshit, I’ll be damned if I’m going to let a corporate law firm push all of us around with questionable legal threats.

Adding to the bullshit nature of the claims, it seemed like my adversary was humorously unaware of the Streisand Effect: trying to suppress information only ensures its permanent and widespread distribution. That shit may have worked for totalitarian leaders intimidating villagers, but come on, the Internet has been invented. Can a tiny East Coast firm suppress a large blog, run by a person who thinks suppressing information is really, really evil?

So while I removed the old post pending some legal advice, I did take one step: I started a new thread on the forum, explaining the legal threat that I had received. I figured it was only fair that people should know what is happening, and there is no possible threat of libel from me simply reporting some actual events taken by this company. The Mustachians had a field day with it, and the discussion continues.

Well, they didn’t like that either. I came home from my day of carpentry today to find a slew of “sorry we missed you” registered mail and FedEx notes, and a non-registered letter from that same law firm. Inside was a huge printout of the whole forum thread and even more scary threats from the lawyers.

They stated that their lawsuit would be targeted against my wife and I, as well as our domain registrars (translation: we’ll get your website taken down too.)

It may all be groundless bullying, but it is also a little scary.

I’d love to have an aggressive lawyer who could receive these little threat letters for me and turn them around on the originating firm, so they would know that we will not be bullied. I do have several good friends who work in or own law firms, and they have provided some early encouragement. But rather than imposing on them, I thought it would be most appropriate (and most entertaining) to reach out to the Mustachians first.

If there’s an actual law we are breaking here, I will gladly stop breaking it, and offer my full apologies to those affected.

But if we are within our legal rights, then I will absolutely fight with every resource available to preserve those rights and keep publishing the opinions of both forum users and myself. And the results of the battle and the names of the companies who have attempted this will be published on this blog forever for the protection of others.

Update: After further advice from the MMM legal team, I can now safely share more details. The company is called Kiss Trust. The forum thread they are objecting to is this one right here. Their law firm is called “Law office of Mark B. Williams, PLC”, and here is a copy of the letter they sent me:

I’ve heard that all state BAR associations forbid their members from sending threatening letters when they know there is no real basis for the complaint. If a law firm is publicly shown to be doing this, it could be very bad for its reputation. But the practice remains widespread, and this surprises me. I’m not saying that Mark B. Williams’ law firm would stoop to such a level – I don’t know enough of the law to prove such a thing. But if this does turn out to be the case, it will be important for this information to remain public as well. And for all other letters I receive from law firms to be published for further scrutiny by a larger audience.

Hey! What do you know, this new one came from another lawyer just the next day!

Either way, I look forward to learning the truth so I can better comply with the law, and sharing the results with you all along the way. I could not imagine a better learning experience, so I thank Kiss trust for providing us with this opportunity!

I will also start a dedicated page on this blog so this story and others from readers about legal and corporate harassment can be shared. It makes sense that if suppressing information and opinions with fear is the disease, then a public forum where we can share them permanently with each other is the antidote.

This blog reaches over 25,000 lawyers every month as just a tiny slice of its readership. I’m looking for one person, an aggressive and serious one who is willing to take on the bullies. This blog, while not a big-bucks operation, can pay you for your time as required, and you will also receive my wholehearted endorsement and recommendation if you want your firm’s information to be public. Ideally, this would become a recurring story as we document the progress of our fight.

Who’s in?

Update: I’ve found my great lawyer! After dozens of responses from attorneys in all sorts of firms, I have had an amazing crash course in first amendment law over the last 24 hours. What strikes me is how incredibly baseless the threats seem to be – they directly contradict everything the best lawyers around are telling me the law says! One of the cited precedent cases in that second letter turned out to be about an old couple with a leaky roof, and had no relationship to defamation at all.

I have chosen one firm to represent the blog, and we have some response letters in the works, which I can share with you as they are finished and sent.

If you are a US attorney with expertise in this area (or are just interested in helping out), please get in touch with me through the blog’s contact form here: https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/contact/

Although I am now happily represented and ready for some fun, the crowdsourcing effect of this article is amazing: we can combine knowledge from all attorneys and focus them into one case, ensuring a very good result.

Many thanks and here’s to the next three years!

love,
Mr. Money Mustache

p.s. Kiss Trust – don’t you wish you had just left that innocent single comment alone in the forum now? And will you consider leaving all other bloggers alone from this point forward?

In response to your first threat, I documented your actions on a low-profile forum thread. The second threat encouraged me to write this article.Then it spent some time on today’s top 10 in Hacker News.Then the king of first amendment defenders, Ken White from Popehat tweeted it to his 12,000 twitter followers. (Thanks Ken!)There’s currently an editing battle going on in your Wikipedia Entry between an IP address registered to your office, and somebody else who has added reference to this post. So you asked to have the whole post deleted, but Wikipedia isn’t listening to you either! (Internet etiquette tip: you’re not supposed to write your own Wikipedia entry)And you got a good chunk of the country’s first amendment lawyers digging into your own firm and each of your law firms.

We can go a lot further on the publicity side of this, so just let us know where you want this story to appear next. It should be pretty obvious by this point that it is not me who is hurting your reputation, it is you. The more interesting you make this story, the more people will decide they want to share it. So keep making it interesting, and I’ll keep documenting!

On the other hand, when you are done punching yourself in the face, you can send me a personal apology and a promise never to do this again to anyone. I will publish it and we can all go back to our real jobs. Although your behavior is wrong right now, I have no objection to your actual trust business, and I believe in forgiveness. I think your potential customers may as well.

Update 2: This has all blown over

It didn’t take long after this post for things to go back to normal. I never heard from the company again, although I did receive second-hand word that they were pissed at the results of their attempted squelching. I also heard from the management of corporate-owned blog Get Rich Slowly that the K-trusters had sent very similar legal harassment to them over an honest review of the company’s products. What a bunch of bullshit. Glad it is over but we remain vigilant for the next battle.

Amusingly enough, and as I think the commentor’s quotes suggest, it’s the DMCA (short for Digital Millennium Copyright Act), not DCMA. And that’s the company’s error – not the above commentor’s. How embarrassing to not even know the name of the law you’re trying to use to silence the internet.

When you sue someone, you are asking the court (i.e. government) to enforce a restriction on speech. NY Times Co. v. Sullivan is the seminal case on this, holding that the first amendment does apply to private lawsuits for defamation.

unfortunately with unmoral thinks you can sue-get a lot of money. The modus operandi is:

Find a webpage where something “bad” is written. Sue. Get a settlement and collect money.
Settlement because an actual trial cost time and money if you lose.

Mostly its small pages that get attacked, because they cant defend themselves. But sometimes “law firm” wants to get big money fast or just has not looked into it (more likely) and underestimated the enemy.

I would get behind this as well. Although the website generates income for you I think the readership gets tremendous value from this resources and it is worth defending. I would gladly contribute with others in defending the rights of this website as well as you and your family.

What a bunch of ass-wipes!! As soon as feasible name and shame them and they need to be boycotted. They need to clearly understand the wrath that social media can inflict! I thought the U.S. was a country where free speech is touted as embodying the soul of the constitution – obviously NOT! The only way to deal with a bully is to mercilessly hit back.

What is the forum of the threatened litigation? Federal court? State court? If none has been specified the jurisdiction could be based on the subject matter (federal question= federal court) or place of residence or operation. If they are suing your company it would be the place of that companies operation. If they’re suing you personally (and your wife?) it would be based on personal jurisdiction, i.e. in the state of your domicile.

When you get to the top you always become a target in any business. Not surprising and actually happens every day. I wish you well and hope you get the best legal representation. Bullies unfortunately have been the American way for business for all of our countries history. Life is not fair but I hope you come out on top of this battle.

Sounds like plain scare tactics. MMM, please let us know who these bullies are so we will NEVER use their products. You should receive a fucking medal for what you did for people around the world – not legal threats.

I honestly believe that this company will suffer big time if they become known as “the guys who tried to shut down MMM”.

What the… it sure is fascinating that a company thinks that have a lawsuit over comments about their company which they don’t like. I’m not a lawyer, but it just seems like a scare tactic, as in they’re hoping that you’ll just quietly take down the content which they don’t like. People are constantly bashing companies they don’t like (and praising the ones they do like!) on twitter, facebook, amazon reviews, etc. Welcome to the Internet.

Anyway, that would be great if a reader of your blog is able to help you out in fighting this potential lawsuit.

I find it interesting that they didn’t research this blog and its owner a little further before attempting legal action, seems to me like you’d be the wrong wrong person to mess with. I think that in today’s age crowd sourcing has proven to be an extremely effective means to solving problems. You have a pretty good size venue to crowd source on, and not to mention the the right scope of readership.
I guarantee in no time you’ll have droves of highly competent, aggressive, and like minded lawyer types beating down your email doors in a bid to represent you. Good luck and eff that company.

The “publisher privilege” under 47 USC 230 would absolutely bar any liability on the part of MMM, unless a court finds that he has solicited, encouraged, or adopted libelous statements as his own. However, merely providing a forum on which a statement is posted cannot give rise to liability.

Love this link … what a wonderful down-to-earth explanation!!!
And it was hillarious …

I wish I was a lawyer in the US as well… sounds like MMM is going to have some fun… I don’t think you have anything to worry about and look forward to MMM being on page 1 of Google searches something related to “donkey balls” :p

I am not an attorney, but as a journalist I dealt with several bully lawyers (not bully in the Teddy Roosevelt sense), mainly unfounded allegations of copyright or trademark infringement (using a headline phrase that was kind of close to their client’s trademarked tagline, or forgetting to capitalize a trademarked name that is often used in common parlance). In copyright matters, the lawyers are just establishing evidence that they are “defending” the mark in case a real threat should ever come up, and they can be safely ignored. Your case, Mr. MM, seems a bit different. The complaint may be groundless, but the lawyers may be counting on your being unable to cover the costs of a legal battle–the court costs alone can be astronomical–and you will therefore do what they command. It’s also possible that the forum member’s comments could truly be considered libelous, which gives the evil lawyers more leverage. We’re all on your side, but listen carefully to your own attorney’s advice, which may in the end be to cave. After all, the last thing you want to do is go back to an imposed work schedule for another 10 years to recoup your losses! He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day.

It’s not my area of law, but I would suggest reaching out to the Electronic Frontier Foundation or the guys at Popehat. This kind of stuff is what they deal with regularly and they can get you connected with the kind of First Amendment lawyer you’ll need.

We’ve got your back MMM! And, just in case, you may want to back up the site and databases. I imagine the guy who set you up with your current hosting can do it, or you can reach out. Don’t want MMM to go the way of “Long Term Returns”. Not a lawyer, but I can be pretty damn annoying when I choose to use my powers for…um, fun/good/evil.

Just another testament to the sort of hubris that big business sometimes leads to. I’m glad you have the capacity to fight off this sort of ridiculous attempts to silence criticism, as it’s disheartening to see the “little guy” simply forced to surrender out of fear of being dragged into a costly legal battle.

Interesting. It’d be good to have some legal assistance, but it’s worth understanding that a lot of manipulation occurs via empty legal threats. When I was a journalist, someone was threatening libel every day. But the saying was until the lawsuit was filed, it was safely ignored.
This company may not like its legal firm dragging its brand into a PR mess and will likely back off with some public exposure. Check out what happened with The Honest Company for example.

Agreed – my advice to clients with scary letters from law firms: don’t panic until you receive notice of an actual law suit. Once you receive it, there will still be time to get a lawyer and get the case in order – there’s no such thing as a legal emergency!

MMM, this sort of thing is sort of smack dab in the center of the EFF’s wheelhouse. It might not be a bad idea to research with them and then reach out to them to see what they have to say (in addition to what you’re doing currently).

Honestly, your biggest gun in this is 47 USC § 230, or “Section 230” of the Communications Decency Act, which states, “No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider.”

Haha.. but I did it only after getting a lot of legal advice in advance. We’ve done the research, this post is the first step in a coordinated action, rather than an impulsive action. We’ll see if I screw it up :-)

Further proof that there are too many lawyers out there, and not enough work for them. They all have quotas they have to meet each month…billable hours. You don’t meet the quota, you don’t have a job anymore.

Why anyone would want to become a lawyer, doctor, or other high-profile career person these days is beyond me!

Keep your life simple. Don’t get married, don’t have kids, don’t buy a house unless you plan on dying in it, and never trust anyone. You can thank reality shows for this cynical attitude!

This being the internet – it is impossible to remove these kind of things. Even forum postings taken down will continue to show up in Google searches.

MMM, I have some advice, having been a participant in the legal system on several occasions (infer what you will…).

You will need to take some serious time to vet an attorney. Personal recommendations work well, but they are not as solid as you may think, since every case is different, but ideally you need someone who knows your field, and your state’s laws regarding the matter. As with many other DIY matters, while I don’t recommend pro se-ing it, you still have to effectively be your own lawyer and research statutes & case law, because there are many terrible lawyers out there. Think of it this way – attorneys are knowledgeable about how to use the system they work in, which may seem foreign to us – however, their quality greatly resembles the rest of the workforce, in that maybe 5-10% are top tier and know how to use the system, “work” the system, and interpret/win/kick-ass your case without breaking a sweat. The rest you need to stay away from.

Lawyers love to write each other love notes back and forth. This is how they earn the bulk of their fees in civil matters. Most of this stuff is pure nonsense, nitpicking about the other side’s factual points (which come into play should an actual trial occur). Do not get sucked into one of these situations. In reality, you do not even have to respond to another lawyer’s baseless claims. In my line of business (managing commercial properties) I have received more than a dozen or so vague legal threats, with none coming to an actual trial. In most cases I ignore them. Unless you are filing a legal complaint, I could give two shits about what your attorney has to say. In a few cases where specific events or items were referenced, I personally sent what I would call a “go fuck yourself” letter, calling them out for bullshit (and calling their bluff). Ambulance chasers and those fishing for your insurance to pay out do not want to deal with iffy cases where the other side shows they are aggressive, as with most things – your blog included, it’s all about the money. If they see little possibility of a payday, or a difficult one at that, they’re going to cut and run. Many of these letters are bluffs.

Again this is my experience, so get some other opinions. I did have one case where I am the plaintiff in a civil matter. This one is so black-and-white it’s not funny, but the other party is a wealthy I-don’t-give-a-shit kind of person. This was a breach of contract where the other party did not even bother to read the contract he signed. If 100 people were to look at it, 100 would come to the same conclusion. The result? He knew he was going to lose, so he took the delay option. 10 years later it is still in the courts (at the state Appellate level). He’s still going to lose, and at this point my company will be lucky to get 25% back of what it cost us. For me it’s a principles thing and a point of pride to put this guy in his place (turns out he’s done what he did to me several times to other people, has bankrupted LLC he’s owned to avoid paying), and he’s never paid for it. I was able to get to pierce his LLC and onto him personally because it was a matter of fraud, so when I do finally get my judgement after his fruitless appeal he will either have to pay, give up a size-able asset or declare bankruptcy.

Had I known it would go this way from the start, I would not have pursued it. I learned a lot about lawyers (dumped my first one before we came to trial, since it was clear he was not competent). In summation, pursuing a legal case where the other party is willing to defend themselves (even with sure-loser cases) if an ordeal and anyone willing to go that path with a sure-fire loser has got some rocks in their head. I don’t know the title you are talking about, but from what a brief cursory review of the internets (for whatever that’s worth) reveals, it seems to be iron-clad that they have no cases against you (hopefully you’ll have a competent attorney agree). In that case you can likely threaten to sue back with a counterclaim for your expenses for the frivolity and abuse of the legal system. I have seen this happen too – depends on the jurisdiction, hard to generalize. Sometimes, I’m told, the “I know what you’re up to and I’ll make you pay” stance will stop them dead in their tracks. All these legal threats are just worthless paper and have no meaning or place should an actual trial take place – that’s why they will be vague if written by someone who knows what they’re doing. Disprovable statements will put them in the corner from the outset, and since they know they have no case, sometimes you need to call their bluff.

Don’t forget to look into any potential liability insurance coverage that you may have — if coverage exists, your insurance company can handle and defend the claims on your behalf, including paying for a lawyer to represent you.

For insurance purposes, it doesn’t matter whether these claims have merit or not. If coverage exists, the insurer has to defend you.

Many people are unaware that their homeowner’s policies typically provide coverage for defamation and libel, so at least consider that. If you maintain any insurance coverage for your business pursuits including this website, check that as well.

If there’s any question about whether coverage might exist, simply tender the claim to your insurance company and put the ball in their court. Let them explain their coverage position to you. Notify them sooner rather than later, because your policy requires prompt notice of claims, and it’s also in your interest to get them involved early.

Agreed!! My first call would be to my insurance company. I”m speaking from experience with a lawsuit.

Please listen to Scott’s comment and contact your insurance company without delay.

Your insurance company will pay for everything and you won’t have to spend a cent.

A side note – this is why you need an umbrella policy to protect your savings.

Also agree that hiring a “good” lawyer is a crapshoot. Every call you make to them will cost you $200. Adds up to tens of thousands very, very fast. You’re in the right on this, but lawsuits will kill you mentally and emotionally, not to mention financially. Don’t put your family through it unless you’re prepared for every possible scenario including agreeing to a settlement that is the farthest thing from fair and right; and the possibility of losing. There is no such thing as “fair and right” in our civil litigation system. There’s only “pay another $200” for your lawyer to file a memo.

So RUN to your insurance agent and file a claim. They’ll hire the lawyer and pay for everything. And insurance companies always hire hitmen for lawyers — they don’t lose!

Interesting. My uncle is a lawyer, and I think a pretty good one, so if you’re still looking for someone I’ll run it by him. My own lawsuit story about corporacracy– some years ago I was writing stories about small cap stock tickers for a company called FinancialWire, maybe 10 or 15 little blurbs a day. I knew obviously to say nothing bad about a company unless it was backed by a material fact (XYZ Corp’s shares dropped 15% is a material fact, for example, but even then my editor encouraged me to tread lightly about anything in a negative vein). One day in writing my 10 or 15 blurbs I read something wrong, and said in my article that some subsidiary company was owned by ABC Corp when in fact the subsidiary was owned by XYZ Corp. Someone at corporate office read this, I stupidly told my editor that the error had been my fault (I’d layered something from one of the other 10 articles I’d written that day in–call it a brain fart). My editor issued an apology, retracted the article, but he did mention (stupidly) that the error was with the writer. I did not think anything of this until several months later I started getting phone calls and a letter saying that some law firm was seeking damages for my misrepresentation of XYZ Corp!
I was terrified…I have the farthest thing from deep pockets. So I called my uncle (the lawyer), and here was his advice. “Ignore them. Do not talk to them at all. Make no admission or denial. A lot of law firms are just looking for deep pockets. They send out frivolous lawsuits. A lot of people get scared and just send them money for a settlement! Or they hunt for a lawyer, who can clear it all up but at a price. In your case there’s not enough skin in the game for a lawyer. Don’t even bother. Throw the letters in the trash, hang up the phone when they call you–immediately–and it will go away.”
I did just that–never answering the complaint–and sure enough it disappeared. It’s like trolls feeding off a response–they want to hit you hard and have you lash back in some unprofessional way. That’s gold to them. I think the claim is as baseless as the one made against me was…

Sorry, I’m not a lawyer (I’m sure one will turn up soon) but just hang in there. We went through something similar when a college whose name is very similar to my husband’s name sent him a cease and desist order. For using his own name he’s had for over 60 years! (Longer than the college has been around for sure.) They blustered and threatened and it was a bit intimidating but it didn’t take a whole lot to stop them since it was so ridiculous.

I think that company just opened up a big ol’ can of whoop ass! I’m sorry that you and your family are being hassled like this. It really is the most ironic situation I could imagine. Let us know if there is anything the Mustachian community can do to help!

Like you say, this is groundless bullying. I work for the government right now, so I can’t help you. However, send an email here: ken@popehat.com

Ken White, at http://www.popehat.com/, and his national readership of First Amendment attorneys have helped numerous other bloggers, I believe pro bono. They might be able to help – even shine the Popehat Signal!

Thanks Tim! I did actually exchange an email with that very same Ken earlier today. He wrote back right away, and as of 10PM this evening I’ve heard from several other lawyers (although I’d love to get more emails – keep ’em coming!). I am more encouraged that we are in for some fun, every minute.

Complete bullshit!!! I am glad you are standing your ground and fighting back. I would look for a way to counter sue the bastards Larry Flint style!

Also, this is one of the main reasons I created a LLC for all of my blogging adventures. To protect my personal assets from any kind of frivolous attack. If you haven’t already, you may want to consider the same. The cost is low compared to the risk you face, especially as your blog continues to grow.

This comment epitomizes why you’ve been able to do what you’ve been able to do. You verbalize many of the thoughts that go through my mind, and I’d imagine most of your readers minds. I’d also contribute if you decide to start taking donations.

As a lawyer who is fascinated by this area of law (but only practices in CA) I want to put in a plug for Mark Randazza over at the Legal Satyricon. http://randazza.wordpress.com/

His blog is excellent, his briefs are irreverent and well-reasoned, and I would bet that as a fellow blogger he would have a special sensitivity to this sort of crap. He’s often on NPR talking about these sorts of lawsuits, you guys seem like you would get along. Here’s his firm’s website: http://randazza.com/first-amendment-law/

I am a lawyer, and while this “claim” is likely entirely bogus, you are right to take it at least a little bit seriously. Lawyers love to write strongly worded letters, filled with veiled and not so veiled threats of legal action. Much of the time, the attorneys writing these letters know (or should know) that while their pseudo-legal threats are scary and often prompt action by the recipients, they would be very unlikely to prevail if they actually brought an action. They should also know that using their license to bully people with frivolous claims is unethical, and could get their license to practice law suspended or revoked in most states. Still, if there weren’t enough nimrods out there willing to bring frivolous lawsuits, people wouldn’t have so many complaints about lawyers. The problem with being sued in many cases is not that you might lose, but that you will likely lose thousands of dollars to prove what everyone already knew: you were right, and these guys are a bunch of sour-grapes bullies who should spend more time keeping customers happy, and less time hiring lawyers to try to make bloggers deleted comments from their website.

Exactly. I’d be willing to help, as I’m sure many of us Mustachians would. I’m hoping that the simple fact that it’s so frivolous will cause it to go away, but if not, we’re a sizable enough community that we could certainly crowd-fund like crazy!

Well said! Sticking to your guns, as always. This reminds me of the credit card company that didn’t like Badassity that you told to get lost. Stand up for what matters, tell it like it is and set an example – that’s true inspiration.

Along with the others, I’d love to contribute to a fund to pay a lawyer to fight these piss ant mofos. Just let us know! We’ve got your back.

“However, in this case we have a chance to fight back and discourage a shady practice, in front of millions of people. Maybe even save a few hundred other people from being harassed in the future. Now THAT is definitely worth thousands of dollars to me.”

It’s worth a lot to me too, so count me in as another who can’t help with legal advice (not a lawyer), but willing to help pay for legal fees.

Dear Mr. Mustache, I am a fan of your blog and I agree with attorney Matt . The bullying lawyer in question is much more experienced, financed and professionally invested in “winning” this game (and “winning” means, I’m sure, wasting you precious time and money).

The best way for you to win this game is to not play. Even if you were a HLS grad, defending Ecuadorian Indians from a heinous corporation, keep in mind that when you get between a company and their profit, they can be ruthless. Don’t let them tempt you to sink to their level. Shake it off, turn the page.

I’m a lawyer and while this is not my area of expertise, it sounds like there may be grounds for a Federal Rule 11 violation for a frivolous or groundless lawsuit. In which case you should demand attorneys fees.

Someone have obviously not figured out how the internet works. A small comment in a forum that not many have read (What happened to Freedom of speech by the way? And why does one have to be responsible for others speech?) and now they want to blow it up so that everybody gets to know this. If the name of the company comes out (as it always will) it will be far worse than having a small comment in a forum.

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