I have several questions. I'll try not to strike a nerve.As a lead-up, what dialect of English do you speak? Then...How are ow's pronounced? Is it like in tow or in how?How are the lone e's pronounced? Is it like in men or here or something else?Do the pluses in your phonetic transcription mean a fluid switch between vowels or a glottal stop? Or maybe there's a combination (diphthong)?

I have several questions. I'll try not to strike a nerve.As a lead-up, what dialect of English do you speak? Then...How are ow's pronounced? Is it like in tow or in how?How are the lone e's pronounced? Is it like in men or here or something else?Do the pluses in your phonetic transcription mean a fluid switch between vowels or a glottal stop? Or maybe there's a combination (diphthong)?

You won't strike a nerve. It was about midnight when I got mad a few posts ago.1. I really don't know my dialect.2. The Ow's pronounced as the ow in how.3. The e is ALWAYS pronounced as an eh.4. My answer would be a diphthong. The plus means you take both vowel sounds and slur them into one sound like slurred notes on a violin. No stop when there is a plus.

Ehm...I think that when Keanif said "these" s/he meant the forms of I, you, he, she and it to be used as object. Like "You see us" (Míje see ba?) -> "You see it" (Míje see it) Because you seem to have posted one form of "it" (for example) to work just as subject.

Remd wrote:Ehm...I think that when Keanif said "these" s/he meant the forms of I, you, he, she and it to be used as object. Like "You see us" (Míje see ba?) -> "You see it" (Míje see it) Because you seem to have posted one form of "it" (for example) to work just as subject.

Okay. So I need pronouns to act a objects?

ummm....

Oops. I will make the pronouns and repost the pronoun list.

btw, There is a dictionary I am creating and if you would like to have a copy just email me. It is a .pdf file.

You already have some, in fact. For instance, "ba" is supposed to mean "us" and you don't use "us" as a subject (would you say "us are fine"?), it acts as an object, that's why you say "you see us" and we are the object of your action.

You already have some, in fact. For instance, "ba" is supposed to mean "us" and you don't use "us" as a subject (would you say "us are fine"?), it acts as an object, that's why you say "you see us" and we are the object of your action.

XshadowX wrote:A : IF this is in pronunciation the a is pronounced like it is in van or cat.

Like [veən] or [kʰeət̚]? Well, that's simple enough!

XshadowX wrote:Okay. So I need pronouns to act a objects?

It would be strange to have a language which allows pronouns to be subject but not objects. Strange, but not impossible.

You don't necessarily need distinct forms, as in English. Plenty of languages use the same forms for both (e.g. Chinese wǒmen kànjiàn nǐmen "we see you [plural]", nǐmen kànjiàn wǒmen "you [plural] see us", etc.).

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