The hospital assistant that typed up his birth certificate obviously didn't have her fingers on the home keys.Unfortunate mistake for the young man, but it can be fixed to whatever his parents really wanted to name him.

beerrun:I'm sure he'll be punished severely by the team.He'll miss at least a whole half of the first game against Middle Tennessee School of Typewriter Maintenance.

There's no "the" in front of the university name and the coach doesn't have a name that sounds like a particularly low-grade school lunch meat, so his suspension will stick for some time, if not made permanent by a felony conviction.

thecpt:Says suspended indefinitely. Don't see how this is the university's fault subby

As an athlete or student of a University, you represent them on and off the field. Even when your outside a bar in the wee hours of the morning, stealing crab legs or putting the moves on some lady that's passed out. This is the type of individual the University is giving a free ride? That's some quality decision making skills there, Csont'e.

Outlawtsar:This was a better sucker punch involving Michigan's football team.

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/Rematch this season. Can't wait to see a repeat.

I live pretty close to App. State and have a lot of friends that are alums. Everyone is fired up for the rematch but something tells me Michigan won't let that happen again. My prediction is that it's going to be ugly

Just like Frank Clark's or Fitz Toussaint's? Or how about Brendan Gibbons?

more proof that Michigan is better than a college in the state of Ohio. You've had their number in for more than a decade, yet you guys can't stop acting like a spurned girlfriend. Its ok, being good at football is nearly as impressive as being good at football and every single other thing like michigan is.

This is the problem with the B1G. In SEC Country, that tape never sees the light of day. The local sheriff has a cursory investigation, everything gets chalked up to a misunderstanding, the kid sits the first half (quarter) of the season opener (maybe), and everyone gets on with life.

Champion of the Sun:The_Six_Fingered_Man: LesserEvil: so his suspension will stick for some time

Just like Frank Clark's or Fitz Toussaint's? Or how about Brendan Gibbons?

more proof that Michigan is better than a college in the state of Ohio. You've had their number in for more than a decade, yet you guys can't stop acting like a spurned girlfriend. Its ok, being good at football is nearly as impressive as being good at football and every single other thing like michigan is.

Keeping a rapist on the team and then lying about why he missed the Ohio State game and the Bowl Game is proof that Michigan is better than any Ohio university? ..........Ok then.

The_Six_Fingered_Man:Champion of the Sun: The_Six_Fingered_Man: LesserEvil: so his suspension will stick for some time

Just like Frank Clark's or Fitz Toussaint's? Or how about Brendan Gibbons?

more proof that Michigan is better than a college in the state of Ohio. You've had their number in for more than a decade, yet you guys can't stop acting like a spurned girlfriend. Its ok, being good at football is nearly as impressive as being good at football and every single other thing like michigan is.

Keeping a rapist on the team and then lying about why he missed the Ohio State game and the Bowl Game is proof that Michigan is better than any Ohio university? ..........Ok then.

great_tigers:The_Six_Fingered_Man: Champion of the Sun: The_Six_Fingered_Man: LesserEvil: so his suspension will stick for some time

Just like Frank Clark's or Fitz Toussaint's? Or how about Brendan Gibbons?

more proof that Michigan is better than a college in the state of Ohio. You've had their number in for more than a decade, yet you guys can't stop acting like a spurned girlfriend. Its ok, being good at football is nearly as impressive as being good at football and every single other thing like michigan is.

Keeping a rapist on the team and then lying about why he missed the Ohio State game and the Bowl Game is proof that Michigan is better than any Ohio university? ..........Ok then.

Both situations are despicable. Honestly embarrassing.

No no no no no! Don't try to stop this discussion by being reasonable! These arguments about how YOUR team is full of thugs and criminals while MY team is virtuous and charitable are some of the most productive discussions on the internet! I'm sure that if we let it play out, someone will come to their senses and change allegiances any time now!

The_Six_Fingered_Man:Keeping a rapist on the team and then lying about why he missed the Ohio State game and the Bowl Game is proof that Michigan is better than any Ohio university?

I suppose I could explain how that allegation was handled by a department completely separate from the football program, that proactively changed their policy beyond compliance and subsequently re-opened an internal investigation that had been closed for years until eventually delivering an extremely belated decision with no accompanying criminal charges hence why the guy was on the team the whole time. . . but this really isn't about justice, is it?

If you're willing to take this stupid trash-talking fight to the bottom of the gutter muck, let's at least get back to mocking my alma mater for beating tOSU only once in like a farking decade or getting PWND by Appalachian State and leave victims of violence out of it because it's pretty obvious that a sense of justice is the farthest thing from your idiotic mind. There are plenty of reasons to laugh at Michigan right now but accusations of how they've handled off-the-field problems is really weak sauce relative to other FBS programs. They ain't perfect but odds are anyone throwing rocks around here probably has a pretty brittle glass house of their own.

If we're talking about losing games - especially embarassing ones, to schools like Wossamotta U(alma mater of Rocky and Bullwinkle) - yes, you'd say Michigan has the right way. (And they givetheir opponents the right OF way - "Touchdown, Wossamotta U! Final score: Wossamotta 222,Michigan -10!")

UNC_Samurai:/I miss the day when every commenter had to earn their privileges personally from Leitch.

I do too. The comments were as much a part of the site then as the story itself. The list of commenters from that era who now write elsewhere is pretty impressive, actually. People started other blogs just out of meeting each other in the comments.

ModernPrimitive01:I live pretty close to App. State and have a lot of friends that are alums. Everyone is fired up for the rematch but something tells me Michigan won't let that happen again. My prediction is that it's going to be ugly

Well, we're not entirely sure that the offensive line will be able to block anybody, but my guess is they might at least be able to block non-Big 5 conference guys.

That being said, I'd also think that Michigan could just chuck fades at Funchess on every play and probably win the game.

Gonz:This is the problem with the B1G. In SEC Country, that tape never sees the light of day. The local sheriff has a cursory investigation, everything gets chalked up to a misunderstanding, the kid sits the first half (quarter) of the season opener (maybe), and everyone gets on with life.

Gonz:This is the problem with the B1G. In SEC Country, that tape never sees the light of day. The local sheriff has a cursory investigation, everything gets chalked up to a misunderstanding, the kid sits the first half (quarter) of the season opener (maybe), and everyone gets on with life.

HMS_Blinkin:great_tigers: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Champion of the Sun: The_Six_Fingered_Man: LesserEvil: so his suspension will stick for some time

No no no no no! Don't try to stop this discussion by being reasonable! These arguments about how YOUR team is full of thugs and criminals while MY team is virtuous and charitable are some of the most productive discussions on the internet! I'm sure that if we let it play out, someone will come to their senses and change allegiances any time now!

Thanks! I hate it when people look at a situation at a school and place the blame on the school for the actions of its students. Further, I hate it more when that school doesn't take firm action toward the student based on the situation.

Gonz:llortcM_yllort: So defending a child raping DC is a sign of Paterno's moral character? Am I reading that right?

It's an indicator of Paterno's moral character, absolutely. And anyone else in State College, PA, who knew.

And, yeah, I'm saying there's a difference between a college kid cold-cocking some other idiot in the jaw over a sports argument, and an apparently years-long systematic pedophile rape factory.

One of them is slightly more serious than the other.

Just so we're clear, covering up child rape is bad, right? Because if your original argument is that SEC teams are more willing to cover up bad shiat than their Big Ten counterparts, we have to acknowledge the most major piece of evidence against your premise.

llortcM_yllort:Because if your original argument is that SEC teams are more willing to cover up bad shiat than their Big Ten counterparts, we have to acknowledge the most major piece of evidence against your premise.

Oh, got you. No, my original premise is that SEC communities have a better sense of how to handle this stuff.

There's a reason the Fulmer Cup's a thing, and there's a reason the SEC wins it a lot. There's also a reason that Steve Spurrier said of Georgia "I don't know. I sort of always liked playing them that second game because you could always count on them having two or three key players suspended."

great_tigers:HMS_Blinkin: great_tigers: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Champion of the Sun: The_Six_Fingered_Man: LesserEvil: so his suspension will stick for some time

No no no no no! Don't try to stop this discussion by being reasonable! These arguments about how YOUR team is full of thugs and criminals while MY team is virtuous and charitable are some of the most productive discussions on the internet! I'm sure that if we let it play out, someone will come to their senses and change allegiances any time now!

Thanks! I hate it when people look at a situation at a school and place the blame on the school for the actions of its students. Further, I hate it more when that school doesn't take firm action toward the student based on the situation.

You're from my hometown HMS.

/HCHS 2003

Heh, that tells me how long it's been since I updated my profile. I moved to the east side, first for grad school (UM) and then for work. The money's better over here, but man I miss living in Holland--what a pleasant place to live.

And I agree with you---you put 110 doofus young guys (who are self-selected for aggression and competitiveness) into a room, and you're guaranteed to get some amount of stupidity. Their actions get amplified like crazy---how many dipshiat undergrad guys in America do the same sort of dumb stuff we see football players doing in the news? Many of them, would be my guess (and I know I did some dumb stuff in undergrad...). The difference is that when some frat bro punches a douche in another frat, it doesn't make national news---they get some probation, pay a fine, and they move on with their life.

How the schools should act in cases like these is always a tough moral question. On the one hand, what the guy did (in this case) is really unacceptable. On the other hand, he hasn't had a prior record of asshole-ish behavior--so do you revoke his scholarship and possibly take away a great opportunity from him over one error? It's hard to say---he DID cold-cock that guy, which is shiatty, but then it's hard to justify a life-long punishment for a person who made a "heat of the moment" mistake one time.

IMO, there should be a standard "2 strikes" rule in big-time college sports. Do something bad, you get suspended and placed on a kind of sports probation for a year. If you apologize sincerely, keep going to class during your suspension, and generally show that you've improved yourself, then you get to keep your scholarship and keep playing. If you fark up a second time or fark up your probation, then you're done.

Champion of the Sun:The_Six_Fingered_Man: LesserEvil: so his suspension will stick for some time

Just like Frank Clark's or Fitz Toussaint's? Or how about Brendan Gibbons?

more proof that Michigan is better than a college in the state of Ohio. You've had their number in for more than a decade, yet you guys can't stop acting like a spurned girlfriend. Its ok, being good at football is nearly as impressive as being good at football and every single other thing like michigan is.