I take it that all of these programs cost money to some degree? Such as the Strong Lifts 5x5 thing. There is a big download button but I bet it will just ask me to input CC details after a week or something.

Then again, I have to get fit. I'm quite the lardo at the moment, ~181 cm tall and I weigh about 97 kg.

At least I have a carrot on a stick to motivate me now.

Do you guys think that I should focus on losing weight first before doing something like the Strong Lifts program? It says that you don't have to but then again, I don't really trust the website since it is just trying to sell its product.

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Reading it again it appears to be free. Silly me.

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Thing is, all these programs seem to be aimed at those who want to become muscular. I would rather just lose a bit of weight and gain some strength as an added bonus. Is there no fatass thread that I can visit instead?

I take it that all of these programs cost money to some degree? Such as the Strong Lifts 5x5 thing. There is a big download button but I bet it will just ask me to input CC details after a week or something.

Then again, I have to get fit. I'm quite the lardo at the moment, ~181 cm tall and I weigh about 97 kg.

At least I have a carrot on a stick to motivate me now.

Do you guys think that I should focus on losing weight first before doing something like the Strong Lifts program? It says that you don't have to but then again, I don't really trust the website since it is just trying to sell its product.

Edit:

Reading it again it appears to be free. Silly me.

Edit:

Thing is, all these programs seem to be aimed at those who want to become muscular. I would rather just lose a bit of weight and gain some strength as an added bonus. Is there no fatass thread that I can visit instead?

Adding "muscularity" will increase your fatloss. You'll probably lose a bit of weight on it, and gain some strength and size.

So, I'm doing a 6 week havoc cycle, 20/30/30/30/40/50 mg cycle. I already know what I'm taking for a PCT, what should I be taking for OCT? Currently, I'm taking Animal Pack vitamins, liver cleanser, Havoc, AR-7 pre-workout, a carbohydrate supplement, and whey protein. I suppose I'm basically just asking if what I'm doing is correct, and if there's anything else I should be taking.

PCT is Nolvadex, as far as OCT, I'm in the dark on that. I don't know what I should be taking.

I take it that all of these programs cost money to some degree? Such as the Strong Lifts 5x5 thing. There is a big download button but I bet it will just ask me to input CC details after a week or something.

Then again, I have to get fit. I'm quite the lardo at the moment, ~181 cm tall and I weigh about 97 kg.

At least I have a carrot on a stick to motivate me now.

Do you guys think that I should focus on losing weight first before doing something like the Strong Lifts program? It says that you don't have to but then again, I don't really trust the website since it is just trying to sell its product.

Edit:

Reading it again it appears to be free. Silly me.

Edit:

Thing is, all these programs seem to be aimed at those who want to become muscular. I would rather just lose a bit of weight and gain some strength as an added bonus. Is there no fatass thread that I can visit instead?

Lift weights, do cardio, eat food. It's quite simple. Stronglifts is free for all the important information. You'd only pay if you want access to their Gold forum or whatever.

So, I'm doing a 6 week havoc cycle, 20/30/30/30/40/50 mg cycle. I already know what I'm taking for a PCT, what should I be taking for OCT? Currently, I'm taking Animal Pack vitamins, liver cleanser, Havoc, AR-7 pre-workout, a carbohydrate supplement, and whey protein. I suppose I'm basically just asking if what I'm doing is correct, and if there's anything else I should be taking.

PCT is Nolvadex, as far as OCT, I'm in the dark on that. I don't know what I should be taking.

So indulge me, weightlifters.

Havoc is epistane, which AFAIK is a DHT derived compound and doesn't aromatize (convert to estrogen), so you probably won't need anything else on cycle.

Don't expect impressive gains, most DHT like compounds suck dick as far as packing on mass. But it will have nice effects on strength, hardness and you'll probably lean out quite a bit (depending on diet ofc). Coupled with a caloric surplus and plenty of protein you can probably expect a bit of nice size gains.

Havoc is epistane, which AFAIK is a DHT derived compound and doesn't aromatize (convert to estrogen), so you probably won't need anything else on cycle.

Don't expect impressive gains, most DHT like compounds suck dick as far as packing on mass. But it will have nice effects on strength, hardness and you'll probably lean out quite a bit (depending on diet ofc). Coupled with a caloric surplus and plenty of protein you can probably expect a bit of nice size gains.

No drinking fucking alcohol while you are on cycle either. Srs.

Okay, good to know. I was pretty sure everything I was doing was right but I wasn't sure. And yeah, the no alcohol thing sucks. But it's not that bad, I can deal with no drinking for 6 weeks. What happens if you drink on cycle? Obviously bad shit.

For gaining purposes I've begun taking a different more carbohydrate enriched protein as well as a carb powder that I just mix in with my protein.

No.
It's not a parents job to question your healthier diet by acting like a child.

Agreed. My parents do the same and always try to get me to eat desserts every day, and I tell them I don't want it (which I really don't, I just feel ill when I eat many dessert-type foods) and they act all weird about it. I love my parents, but the truth is that they are both in declining health due to poor diet (simply just overweight for my dad, and my mom is weighscale-phobic), and I am in great health.

Okay, good to know. I was pretty sure everything I was doing was right but I wasn't sure. And yeah, the no alcohol thing sucks. But it's not that bad, I can deal with no drinking for 6 weeks. What happens if you drink on cycle? Obviously bad shit.

For gaining purposes I've begun taking a different more carbohydrate enriched protein as well as a carb powder that I just mix in with my protein.

I say don't drink because majority of oral steroids are stressful on the liver. Combine this with alcohol intake and you have a recipe for notable damage.

Smoking weed alone will have no negative impact on your body. Studies have shown that smoking weed does not decrease your lung function(I cannot attest to that, as I smoke cigarettes occasionally). Only thing you have to worry about is when you're high you aren't going to want to lift, and you are more apt to eat dirty foods and stray from your diet. Other than that you should be in good shape, I'm a prime example.

Smoking weed alone will have no negative impact on your body. Studies have shown that smoking weed does not decrease your lung function(I cannot attest to that, as I smoke cigarettes occasionally). Only thing you have to worry about is when you're high you aren't going to want to lift, and you are more apt to eat dirty foods and stray from your diet. Other than that you should be in good shape, I'm a prime example.

While I hate to sound like your stereotypical stoner, I honestly lift harder. It's weird. Marijuana increases blood pressure, and that combined with AR-7 pre-workout is ridiculous. Try smoking before you workout, it's fun. Makes it much more enjoyable.

While I hate to sound like your stereotypical stoner, I honestly lift harder. It's weird. Marijuana increases blood pressure, and that combined with AR-7 pre-workout is ridiculous. Try smoking before you workout, it's fun. Makes it much more enjoyable.

I blaze multiple times throughout the day, daily. I find myself fairly sluggish after smoking and taking my preworkout rather than just my preworkout. It does affect everyone differently though, so I don't doubt your claims. I would like to try a very strong sativa before lifting though.

Pyramid Curls (starting with a higher weight that you can do, going down by 5 pounds each time)
Hammer Curls 10-8-6-4
Overhand Curls (curl with your forearms facing you on top of the bar) 3x10

Day 2:
Back:

Pullups 3x8
Lat Pulldowns 10-8-6-4

Triceps:

Kickbacks 3x8
Skull Crushers 10-8-6-4

Day 3:
Shoulders:

Front Raises 3x8
Side Raises 3x8

Traps:

Barbell Shrugs 3x8
Behind-the-Back Barbell Shrugs 3x8

Day 4:
Forearms:
Forearm Curls 3x8
Behind-the-back Forearm Curls 3x8

Abs:
Crunches x50
Oblique Crunches 6x4 (each side)

There ya go.

I know Zyzz didn't have the most perfect workout, but I think what he did well was do different lifts for the same muscle groups. For example, on what you wrote up, the 3 different kinds of bench press are extremely similar to the point where it's like doing 9 sets of bench press. Instead, he could do barbell bench press, dumbbell bench press, and incline flies (straight from Zyzz's routine) and he'd have 3 different chest-targeted lifts that engage different sets of stabilizer muscles and areas of the chest.

Same with the curls, they're all virtually the same, just different wrist rotations. Instead, he could do 21's, dumbell curls, and barbell curls. Maybe even chin-ups. All hit the biceps but work different stabilizer muscles so you can actually do a bit more instead of being completely burned out in certain spots.

Also don't see any leg lifts in there. You can completely eliminate any need to do ab work by throwing in squats and deadlifts, as those use the abs in stabilization.

Not trying to jump on you or anything, just a few modifications I think would make that routine a little more effective.

Smoking weed alone will have no negative impact on your body. Studies have shown that smoking weed does not decrease your lung function(I cannot attest to that, as I smoke cigarettes occasionally). Only thing you have to worry about is when you're high you aren't going to want to lift, and you are more apt to eat dirty foods and stray from your diet. Other than that you should be in good shape, I'm a prime example.

Sorry bro, that's bullshit. Cite the study so i can spergily pick holes in it's methodology.

Regardless of the content being tobacco or weed, you are breathing in smoke. It's harmful to your lungs. Tobacco in and of itself isn't harmful to your cardiovascular function, it's the combustion and repetitive inhalation of smoke.

The studies you are thinking of are the ones showing that cannabis doesn't have an increased risk factor more than Tobacco smoking does.

tl;dr if you are worried about prime cardiovascular function, vaporize your weed or eat it etc.