This is a discussion on Motivation within the INTJ Forum - The Scientists forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; Some questions I've been wondering about, look at it as a small questionnaire if you will:
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I'm not sure if this is MBT related. I know that in the enneagram section that there seems to be more similarities....as a 9: no fucking motivation. Lazy and don't really give a toss. Then a flurry of activity so I can get back to being lazy.

I'm not sure if this is MBT related. I know that in the enneagram section that there seems to be more similarities....as a 9: no fucking motivation. Lazy and don't really give a toss. Then a flurry of activity so I can get back to being lazy.

I was wondering whether INTJs on here match the description of them online which states that they get things done easily because of their need to apply their ideas and theories.
Perhaps the mechanics behind it is an Enneagram thing, but this is merely a questionnaire to see if some of us aren't like the others...

I was wondering whether INTJs on here match the description of them online which states that they get things done easily because of their need to apply their ideas and theories.
Perhaps the mechanics behind it is an Enneagram thing, but this is merely a questionnaire to see if some of us aren't like the others...

In that case I would agree that they match their ideas, the knowledge of the way things work and get to it. I know for myself being lazy as a chief motivator. I will think before I get out of bed what needs to be done in the quickest way with least effort. If I could I'd be moving my arm half an inch to do 3 things at once with that movement. You won't catch me exercising for fun....I need around 3 reasons first.....heh.

In that case I would agree that they match their ideas, the knowledge of the way things work and get to it. I know for myself being lazy as a chief motivator I will think before I get out of bed what needs to be done in the quickest way with least effort. If I could I'd be moving my arm half an inch to do 3 things at once with that movement. You won't catch me exercising for fun....I need around 3 reasons first.....heh.

I think I can agree with that too! I always look for the easiest and most efficient way to do something do I can have extra time to waste.
My motivation lasts for a very short while though; it deflates pretty soon and then I'm back to being lazy. I've not met many INTJs who do that...:P

I think I can agree with that too! I always look for the easiest and most efficient way to do something do I can have extra time to waste.
My motivation lasts for a very short while though; it deflates pretty soon and then I'm back to being lazy. I've not met many INTJs who do that...:P

I think that 9s disintegrate to 6 and 3. It could be they are the similarities? Not sure. I tend to go between kick arse, lazy as fuckity fuck to just plodding. I would think that 6s disintegrate to 3 also when stressed. In which case they would get more done in a short amount of time. I know that's what I do.

I think that 9s disintegrate to 6 and 3. It could be they are the similarities? Not sure. I tend to go between kick arse, lazy as fuckity fuck to just plodding. I would think that 6s disintegrate to 3 also when stressed. In which case they would get more done in a short amount of time. I know that's what I do.

Yeah, a 6's stress arrow points to 3...I'd quite agree with the competitive and arrogant nature. The Growth arrow to 9 too I can identify with.
A 9's stress and growth arrows are opposite to that of a 6.

Leaving Enneagram aside, which function do you think can be associated with motivation, finishing projects and getting work done? Is it Te?

Yeah, a 6's stress arrow points to 3...I'd quite agree with the competitive and arrogant nature. The Growth arrow to 9 too I can identify with.
A 9's stress and growth arrows are opposite to that of a 6.

Leaving Enneagram aside, which function do you think can be associated with motivation, finishing projects and getting work done? Is it Te?

I would think it be all of the functions. I'm loathe to separate them. ...but! Si/Te likes the job done in ISTJs so I would hazard a guess that Ni/Te likes the job done with INTJs. There are always going to be Fi and Se involved as well though....ie want the bastard job done to appreciate it aesthetically (Se) and want the shite done for emotional reasons, personal pride/values feeling guilty about not getting it done (Fi).

I focus so hard that I go into tunnel vision onto things. If I do it for too long I will burn out. I try to give myself a 5 minute break every 20 to 30 minutes.
That's all it is for me, I don't need a "motivation". I just say "I'm going to focus now." and do it.

I focus so hard that I go into tunnel vision onto things. If I do it for too long I will burn out. I try to give myself a 5 minute break every 20 to 30 minutes.
That's all it is for me, I don't need a "motivation". I just say "I'm going to focus now." and do it.

That's interesting. I find that many INTJs have the same behavior.
I wish I did too.