Bush vs. Kerry

This is a discussion on Bush vs. Kerry within the A Brief History of Cprogramming.com forums, part of the Community Boards category; Originally Posted by Zach L.
FYB, you sound much more like a Libertarian than a Republican. Although, Republicans are theoretically ...

FYB, you sound much more like a Libertarian than a Republican. Although, Republicans are theoretically as strong supporters of capitalism as Libertarians

I can agree with that. A lot of republicans are libertarians choosing a major party on economy over social issues.

Originally Posted by novacain

Its good to see that the US elected its fifth black senator in 216 years (to serve 1/8 of the population). To add to the total of eleven monority senators it has elected since 1788. (out of 1,864 that have served)

this is your response to the affirmative action criticism? I'm confused. You'd like to see affirmative action in senate races?

I think it shows how disenfranchised the minorities are. I wonder if the 3 current minority senators would agree we need to observe the 'veil of ignorance', for their constituents protection of course.

I saw on TV lines to vote, apparantly lasting for up to nine hours.
Bet they wern't in Beverly Hills.
Wonder if I would have waited to vote?
Would you have?

Here the polsters can tell you which party supporters will use any given polling booth.

More Americans voted against GWB than any other presidential candidate, ever.

I don't know of anyone who waited nearly that long. The longest I heard was an hour and a half, and that was right before most people went to work. I went immediately after work and waited for 15 minutes.

More Americans voted against GWB than any other presidential candidate, ever.

Yeah amazing how in an election where more people voted then ever before, GWB had more votes for him than any other president in history. And he can't have more votes against him than any other presidential candidate, because Kerry got fewer votes. Regardless its a stupid statistic because more people voted this year. Now back to the meainingful flames...

To me the # of votes for or against a particular candidate or president is meaningless. Its the percentage of the votes. As the population increases the number of votes for or against someone with increase. What matters is the percentage.

I think we're playing a semantics game here, guys. I think novacain's trying to say that while the votes in Bush's column were more likely for him, the votes in Kerry's were more likely against Bush, not for Kerry.

I take that more to mean that as a result of there being a near 50/50 split and there being more voters than in previous elections, Bush is the actual elected president to have had the most votes against him. (Clearly, Badnarik, Cobb, Nader, etc all had more votes against them than either of those two did.)

Couldn't tell you from personal experience since I voted Kerry, but if the polls are any indication, "moral standards" was the biggest reason given by those exiting voting stations who voted Bush while "economy concerns" was biggest for Kerry. What I don't get is, are they implying Kerry doesn't have moral standards?

Couldn't tell you from personal experience since I voted Kerry, but if the polls are any indication, "moral standards" was the biggest reason given by those exiting voting stations who voted Bush while "economy concerns" was biggest for Kerry. What I don't get is, are they implying Kerry doesn't have moral standards?

The polls you're referring to were annoyingly misleading. I heard those too. They basically asked them:

Who are you voting for?
and
What's the biggest issue?

Those who voted for Bush had terrorism and moral issues as their biggest issue, and those who voted for Kerry had economy as their biggest issue.

What does the poll tell you? Not what they would have you believe. If they had asked:

Who is better for (fill in the issue)?

It would have given an a better answer. They tried to say that people thought kerry was better for the economy and that bush was better for war on terrorism based on those polls and that's just not what the polls said.