NPCs changes the frame even if aren't on the screen, right :/IIRC, Ithink they can advance the frame even off screen, especially true for spirtomb in my exp.

No, i've just did 9 steps in the grass, with a RepelIf you can try 4 flips then sweet scent, as they will leave basically no room for error ie npc or some weird advancemnt.

Does Sweet Scent advance the frame? Or the advance (i guess 1) is already counted when the Initial Frame for Sweet Scent in the grass is 2?SS advance the frame 1 but if you already included thendont worry.
Advance= target-#roam-2(1 for mon frame + 1 for sweet scent)

2. In seed to time have you adjusted your adjacent frame to display -+2 and delay that is -+50 off target delay, for you 99 would be best.

3. Do you know how to use a timer because doing 10000+ advancement is kinda insane.

4. You do know there is a npc in pewter city right?

5. Did you save right in front of it and quickly access pokegear?

But I still will advise you to find another seed with a high delay because, high delay seeds have way lower frames.

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1. No, i've killed all
2. Yes, i put +-2 second and +-80 delay..
3. Yes, i used Pikatimer for 587 delay, and radioseed for frame..
4. There is only me, Latios and Steven.
5. I've created a savestate while I'am in Pokegear savestate screen.

however, i'm using a flashcard and i've check iv code active.
But for roamer Latias there were no problems with this seed..

I know it tedious but I need you to list the steps you are taking to rng your pkmn/and hitting you delay, as I still kinda confuse to what you are asking.

From the pev post, Im guessing you are trying to hit the delay.

If your calibrated delay is not the same as the target delay, you will need to use a timer.

If your calibrated delay is the same as the target delay*1. Set your ds on the target date
*2. Start the game and save, then turn it back off
*Note- these steps arent manadtory but it eases the process.

3.a Find you reset time
ie
reset = target sec - calibrated sec

3. Set you ds to be 1 min before the target time
4. Start the game immediately
5. Soft reset you ds on the reset time and quickly press A until you enter the world. When you press A to enter the world, you delay is set.

If your calibrated delay is not the same as the target delay1. Use a timer ie pikatimer or eontimer
2. Enter the calibrated delay, second, and target delay and second in the correct spot.

3. Simultaneously Set you ds to be min the timer till you, ie 1 min = set the time 1 min off from the target delay and start the timer.

4. Start the game immediately

5. Soft reset you ds when the first timer reach zero
6. Press A on the continue screen, the blue screen, when the second timer is zero.

7. Check you delay, if you delay is constantly off, then enter the delay you keep hitting the the update box.

1. Do you have a bold pokemon with sync in as the leader?
2. Are you using method J?
3. Did you save standing extremely close to uxie?,yes you did
4. You are just doing 219 then pressing A right?, yes, you did
5. When you open the journal, does the "capture/caught pokemon" page appears first?

Just notice something, the frame 450 with the iv and nature only appear on method 1. Under method j its on 447. On Method J on 450 it should be Serious 0/2/19/22/4/26.

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I wasn’t using a Sync, but was using Method J (I did forget to change the search option on RNGReporter to J when trying to figure out where I went wrong, as you noted. However, the ‘capture/defeated’ message was NOT on the first page of my journal: I had to flip about 3 before I’d find that message – is that what would have done it? I hadn’t read that anything in the journal other than ‘capture/defeated’ messages would alter the frame…

Having said that, the main change I made before successfully RNGing was ensuring that both the first 2 pages in my Journal had a ‘capture/defeat’ message on them, and just flipping between them.

Anyway, my next goal is to RNG a nice spread Mesprit. I haven’t RNGed a roamer before, and just want to check my facts before I screw up (sorry if this has been covered somewhere in the 1000+ pages on this thread already, but I couldn’t find it).

If I understand correctly, it will be essentially the same process as for a stationary legendary, EXCEPT:

I use Method 1 instead of Method J

I use 5 Monster Frames instead of 1

I won’t be able to catch it straight away to ensure I got the RNG advancement right

So once I’ve managed to hit the right seed and advance the RNG to the appropriate frame, I can press A on Mesprit, it will run off, complete with a good Nature/Ivs having been generated.

Should I then save the game, prior to catching? If I save, and I stuffed up the RNG advancement, I’ll be stuck with a bad spread. But if I save and I got the advancement right, I won’t have to worry about hitting on the correct seed again.

Never did manage to figure out why I got the extra frames when trying to get the Bold Uxie previously mentioned, but I’ve since managed to get a different spread on different seed etc.

I wasn’t using a Sync, but was using Method J (I did forget to change the search option on RNGReporter to J when trying to figure out where I went wrong, as you noted. However, the ‘capture/defeated’ message was NOT on the first page of my journal: I had to flip about 3 before I’d find that message – is that what would have done it?As long the other pages did not said capture or defeated poke, no I hadn’t read that anything in the journal other than ‘capture/defeated’ messages would alter the frame…

Having said that, the main change I made before successfully RNGing was ensuring that both the first 2 pages in my Journal had a ‘capture/defeat’ message on them, and just flipping between them.

Anyway, my next goal is to RNG a nice spread Mesprit. I haven’t RNGed a roamer before, and just want to check my facts before I screw up (sorry if this has been covered somewhere in the 1000+ pages on this thread already, but I couldn’t find it).

If I understand correctly, it will be essentially the same process as for a stationary legendary, EXCEPT:

I use Method 1 instead of Method J,yes

I use 5 Monster Frames instead of 1,yes

I won’t be able to catch it straight away to ensure I got the RNG advancement right, basically right, if your just gonna catch it, after you rng it you can track it down immediately w/o saving to see if you hit the right seed.

So once I’ve managed to hit the right seed and advance the RNG to the appropriate frame, I can press A on Mesprit, it will run off, complete with a good Nature/Ivs having been generated.If you hit the seed yes

Should I then save the game, prior to catching? If I save, and I stuffed up the RNG advancement, I’ll be stuck with a bad spread. But if I save and I got the advancement right, I won’t have to worry about hitting on the correct seed again.right, but as I previously stated, you can immediately catch it after you rng it. If you save it after you did the advancement, then you will be stuck with the seed.

Look forward to your thoughts!

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IIRC, if you faint a legendary on platinum and beat the e4, they will appear back at their location.

1. No, i've killed all
2. Yes, i put +-2 second and +-80 delay..
3. Yes, i used Pikatimer for 587 delay, and radioseed for frame..
4. There is only me, Latios and Steven.
5. I've created a savestate while I'am in Pokegear savestate screen.

however, i'm using a flashcard and i've check iv code active.
But for roamer Latias there were no problems with this seed..

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i don't know why you pick a seed with very high frame that really awful to advance that frame.
you can use "B1150781" very low frame 35 (sync) but i bit higher delay 1910
but that no problem to hit delay if use 2 stage timer.

another since you RNG with FC, i think you better RNG on emulator
why? because you don't need to use timer just use save state

OK and for you problem that because NPC on Pewter City, after advance frame you need you talk to Lati@s fast as you can.

And if that not work. can you check IV (with bold) you get than check RNG reporter which frame is it.

after getting a basic grasp on gen5 rng, i thought i'd restart platinum and try my luck at gen4.

in regards to giratina, are the nature and iv's set in the distortion world when you first face it. or can i defeat it in the distortion world and nature and iv's will be reset when i face it in turnback cave?

i haven't done all my calibrations and stuff yet. i was hoping to get to further in the game to calibrate with higher leveled pokemon so i didn't have to continually rarecandy them up to check iv's.

after getting a basic grasp on gen5 rng, i thought i'd restart platinum and try my luck at gen4.

in regards to giratina, are the nature and iv's set in the distortion world when you first face it. or can i defeat it in the distortion world and nature and iv's will be reset when i face it in turnback cave?

i haven't done all my calibrations and stuff yet. i was hoping to get to further in the game to calibrate with higher leveled pokemon so i didn't have to continually rarecandy them up to check iv's.