(Pro-Life is a ridiculous name. What a low blow. Pro-Choice should be upgraded to 'Pro-Humanity'. "We care about ALL of humanity, you simply care about forcing the population to grow, regardless of whether those babies will be cared for or be able to live happy lives.")

Wow, killing babies. How humane.

And you don't know whether they'll have good lives or not. There are 2 million couples waiting to adopt.

And our planet is not over-populated, if you brought everyone to Texas, they could all have 1 acre of land.

I'm not going to go through a pregnancy for a couple I don't know. I feel for them, really, but I'm not putting my body through that just to make some strangers happy.

Overpopulation is not so much an issue of physical space that humans take up. Though, I seriously doubt all the \"humans could fit in this certain piece of land\" crap I keep hearing, because there are countries where there IS overcrowding and not enough individual space.

Anyway, overpopulation is an issue of RESOURCES. The planet cannot continue to support the way people are living forever, and the population just keeps growing. This is an issue, and abortion is one way of slowing down the population increase.

LadyBaird: As someone who's worked with kids in the foster-care system, I can tell you that so many children are not adopted because 1) Many families wanting to adopt want an infant. A greater portion of infants in foster-care that come eligible for adoption are adopted versus the number of older children eligible for adoption.

Secondly, a good portion of children in foster care who are eliglble for adoption have either mental or physical disabilities. This can range from mild, like ADD or other behavior problems to profound mental retardation. Unfortunately, families looking to adopt often don't want problem kids. They want a perfect baby.

It saddens me every time I hear the \"2 million couples, etc.\" argument. Yes, 2 million couples wait to adopt...2 million couples could adopt easier if they would adopt the children most in need.

I don't know where Texas comes into it, but I think if you divide the entire land area of the planet(1.5x10^9km^2) by the current total planetary population (about 6.5x10^9), you get something like five acres each. Of course, that's including all the uninhabitable stuff like deserts, jungles, barren rocky wastelands, that radioactive mess around Chernobyl, frozen tundra, volcanic areas, earthquake zones, etc.

If someone can produce an estimate based on the available useful, livable land area, I'd be most interested in the result.

I don't know who´s more ridiculous of the two. This guy ignores that many couples waiting to adopt are not precisely saints. Moreover, that they are waiting to adopt white, healthy and cute babies, not sick, minority and ugly ones. Problem with overpopulation is not just space, BUT ALSO RESOURCES. And the notion of space is not limited to the physical one. Living in a place where certain rules apply and needs some bureaucracy implies that the world is UNEQUALLY DISTRIBUTED. What if the land turns out to be a dessert or an inhabitable place?.

2'd. The truth is, it's not so much population as it is piss-poor distribution of resources by their stewards. The extra squeebounce is for using a power phrase (baby-killing) in order to serve one's point, which is VERY fundamental to the fundie stereotype

First: you couldn't fit a tenth of the earth's population in Texas, even shoulder-to-shoulder. Hell, China couldn't hold the entire human population. You also have no concept of \"available resources.\"

Furthermore, it's not \"killing babies.\" I'm sure you believe that a blastocyst or fetus is just a really tiny, fully-developed infant, but you're wrong. You know, some women get abortions because pregnancy is too dangerous to carry out.Also, of those supposed 2 million potential adoptive parents, most only want perfect Caucasian children, not minorities or children with disabilities. Do you have any idea how many children remain in foster care, never being adopted purely because of their genetics?

Next time you post on the subject, maybe you should do some research instead of repeating what your fundie friends tell you.