@acstorfer posted in another thread about installing the crushables upside down and thought that was impossible. It’s not if you turn the unit upside down and install just like normal only from the bottom. Anyone else try this or am I the only one that hasn’t figured this out? Thank you @acstorfer for teaching me this!

not arguing, but doesn't the lid "scrape" against the top silicone piece anyway? 180 turn is a good idea too! 180 + flip + 180 might be easier than stirring!! I'm anti-stir so anything helps!! I'd also add you have to be careful opening it because the lid, the contents and the crucible would all hit the floor. Right??

I tried it a few times when someone suggested it a good few months ago.

Sure it does extract those extra tokes, but after a while I just didn't feel comfortable with it rubbing against the bottom silicon.

The flange on the bottom one is quite thin compared to the top one. The top one can be removed and cleaned, or so I'm told. Haven't tried it. But the bottom one would involve taking the unit apart which would void the warranty.

I'm usually stoned using it so maybe I just got paranoid about screwing it up.

Maybe I'm being over cautious, but better safe than sorry. I'd hate to be without it.

I guess it's all sort of random (ie too many variables) - I've taken ghost avb and put in a dosing capsule in crafty and got 2 massive hits!! lol. But really I don't worry too much about full extraction from avb. More an experiment since ghost avb from my use was a very light brown.

The 180 turn is what I do and that works the same. Really I think regardless of if you flip it like this or rotate it 180 degrees, that change is enough to force the air to move differently through the crucible and will have the similar if not almost exactly the same as far as results are concerned. Flipping it I could see myself opening it rightside up and spilling it everywhere..

I rotate 180 degrees with the lid side up. My concern when I saw this was that the metal lid may get hotter than the usual crucible ceramic bottom, being that much closer to the heater, and therefore melt the silicone directly underneath. Not sure it'd become that hot but it crossed my mind.

I would imagine there's some variables here as well. I like to pull and pull until it's long gone, and then I rotate and pull a few more, so perhaps I've exhausted it more by the time it made it to my EQ.

I also plan to make butter out of my AVB, so I've been less concerned in general about complete extraction. Interesting experiment though, good to know it works without any obvious issues. In an ideal world, their crucible would have been designed with this flipping idea in mind.

good point!! I know its talked about somewhere, but this is high temp silicone and I know some of it can handle up to 550F which you vape at lower than 420 which means the metal would be lower than that....but yes i think it's mentioned somewhere the temp limit of this silicone.

Hi have not used my MV1 in a while. Tried and it is just stuck on 3 red concentrate level. I uninstalled the app and no go. Just stays with 3 red. Can anyone help? I want to try to use it again! Thank you

Good thinking on posting this, I didn't find out until earlier today as well. Just tried flipping the crucible for the first time, no noticeable vapor. But then again, maybe the bowl was already extracted lol!

Trying another in 20minutes or so. I'll let you guys know how it goes.

my technique has been a little different than what ive seen. i just got a mv1 (stealth) a few weeks ago and i am a stickler for fuly extracted avb and after my first few bowls i was dissapointed in that aspect, coming from the mighty which can fully evenly extract. i also hate stirring so found that my fav technique has been to take a hit, rotate the device (so fire button is hit with index finger) instead of rotating the crucible. it seems to do the same thing without having to open the door. then after 3 or 4 hits and rotations i take out the crucible, and dump out the avb into my hand and pour it back into the crucible so that what was on top is now on the bottom and vice versa. then i get a hit that is bigger than all the rest but not tasty, and then a few more wispy ones. i get damn near fully vaped bud at the end. for the record i vape at level 5 (406F for mine) from first to last hit.

Hi @Baron23 yes many times. Tried another battery as well. Last time I used it I tried it with concentrates, it didn't work, I got fed up and put it in a drawer. Tried to use it today and no go. Thanks for replying.

Okay so I just had a session. I packed to crucible roughly 3/4 -7/8 full. No tamp whatsoever, just a few taps to the side of the crucible to level everything out. I find this technique gives me the most even extraction.

Started and finished at Level 5 (215°C for me)
I got two massive rips, then one slightly smaller but still big rip. At this point I could taste that the bowl was pretty close to done.

I took the crucible out, gave it a shake or two (remember only filling slightly less than full) and then replaced the crucible upside down.

Normally there wouldn't be much of anything left in the bowl and I would discard it so I didn't have high expectations. I kept the temperature at 215 despite recommendations to lower it. Instead I drastically increased my draw speed. Well I ended up getting one more big rip out of her.

Opened up the crucible and found what has the be the most even AVB I've ever gotten in this vape. I'm definitely gonna have to try this technique some more.

Virgil here with GHOST Vapes, sorry to hear you've been having trouble. 3 flashing red LED indicates the device is in Concentrate Mode. If it's something more complicated, the 3 red LED is present in a few different ones so it's imperative to get a visual reference of what's happening so that we can confirm. It could be that the battery has run out of juice seeing as the vape hadn't been used in a while.

Whenever the battery reaches critical battery level, we recommend replenishing the charge using the micro-USB. I recommend trying this and then attempting to turn on the vape again.

Hi @GHOSTTEAM I really want to fire her up! But it just stays 3 red LEDs. Not flashing. Just solid. I did charge both batteries with the fast charger until they turned green. Even uninstalled the app then put it back. Maybe I hit lock my vape by accident but I already deleted that vape but I can't re-connect. If I hold both buttons down to connect it just stays red. Never had a problem before like this. Hopefully can figure it out here as I want to re-investigate this vape. I did enjoy it very much for a while. Thanks!

I hear ya and I'm excited to see your experience improve. I'd like to have that unit evaluated but will send you out a replacement unit ahead of time so that you're not out of a vape. It sounds like genuine system failure.

There error code for system failure is 3 constant solid red LED (with no button pressed).

I'll send you a PM so I can gather your account details and get what I need to ship out your replacement.

If you examine your heat sink when cleaning, you'll notice that the reclaim tends to be mostly on one side. I reckon this is because the natural way to hold when using is angled at about 45 degrees rather than totally upright. I suspect this means that the heat doesn't go straight through the crucible. Rotating it 180 degrees, or indeed turning it upside down will, IMO, put any unvaped herb in the heat line.