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Note that the accuser's name has been spread all of the pages of the French press for quite some time now. In the U.S. the media do not report the accuser's name until such time that the accuser has lost credibility.

If an accuser (a female accusing a male of rape for example) will have her name spread across the pages of newspapers, she will no doubt be reluctant to report the rape.

So although the judiciary system in the U.S. and other anglophone-influenced countries is labeled as "accusatory", in fact it is the press/media in France, Germany etc that is also accusatory. But the accusations are made by the press, and not the courts.

Either way, both the accused and the one doing the accusing are both dragged through the mud in the end.

"Note that the accuser's name has been spread all of the pages of the French press for quite some time now."

I'm always surprised to read how surprised or even angered some comments in the American press are about the fact that the accuser's name is made public in France.

This woman has no connection whatsoever in France so there can be no harm to her here. But the accused is French and the outcome is simply devastating for him.

Names of alleged culprits or alleged victims aren't systematically made public either.

Here again we see the difference between the two systems.

If someone accuses somebody of something, well, it seems perfectly normal that we know who the accuser is. Otherwise there would be a deluge of accusations against the whole world.

Also, during the Occupation many people were reported to the Gestapo by anonymous accusers.

In the US it is apparently normal to give someone the perp walk whereas h/s is presumed innocent until proven guilty. So innocents are given the perp walk treatment for all to see how innocent the person is???

Quite the opposite in France where it is forbidden to publish pictures of people with handcuffs as long as they haven't been proven guilty.

"although the judiciary system in the U.S. and other anglophone-influenced countries is labeled as "accusatory", in fact it is the press/media in France, Germany etc that is also accusatory. But the accusations are made by the press, and not the courts."

You're perfectly right here.

Human nature is such that giving red meat to the populace is an absolute sure bet that the media will secure their sells and audience share no matter the country or the culture.

The perp walk thing is part of a circus that is totally unjustified regarding fairness and equality of treatment. Notwithstanding that it is absolutely unnecessary for the needs of the investigation.

"both the accused and the one doing the accusing are both dragged through the mud in the end."

Yes of course and the media are totally responsible for this state of affair. That's why police officers, lawyers, prosecutors etc. shouldn't play the media card like Cyrus Vance did.

Not that it's any better in France but at least there's nothing like the pilory show which has been such a shock here (and also among many Americans whose reactions I've read and the link you provided some times ago).

Apparently a sexual intercourse took place but it may be that the saint woman isn't really a saint.

It doesn't take long for a woman to get what she wants from a man (say less than one minute generally. One minute is a very long time under some circumstances).

If they had consensual sex the case is closed, period. DSK is out of politics anyway.

Simply I have never believed the script of DSK rushing out of his bathroom, groping the maid etc.

After Diallo has started confessing she lied at least four times (!), the police will help her unravel the whole story methinks.

Isn't it very strange that Bernard Debré knew the nickname of the maid (Ophelia) hours after the story broke when nobody knew nothing? And a young UMP tweeted the info before the American media started to publish the news?

On a side note I found it interesting that Poutine -who wasn't born yesterday- also said that he didn't believe the story as it was presented from day one.