You claim nothing can exist without a cause, that includes your fairy tale, made up by man...god. Thus at some point, he must have POPped into existence...unless there is a *gasp* "god" creator who I posit is the purple unicorn, he IS all powerful you know.

(01-06-2014 04:57 PM)LostandInsecure Wrote: Jeremy.....how do you know god is exists and how is it possible for it to exist without beginning to exist?

And what is the evidence that you said I've been given?

i have a living loving relationship with God that is how I know He exists.

This evidence i speak of is that the cause of the universe is more plausibly God.

Well damn. You started out acting like there was some real evidence. Now I can't believe this started by you telling me what I believe, and what I must believe, then you telling me how irrational I am for believing (things I never claimed to believe but you insisted on knowing I believe them), and now it is ending with you saying that you know god exists because you love him? You called me irrational.

Ok so let me get this straight.

Your only proof that god created the universe is that the universe exists, and your only proof that god exists is that in order to create the universe he must exist?

O.o

Swing with me a while, we can listen to the birds call, we can keep each other warm.
Swing with me forever, we can count up every flower, we can weather every storm.

Darling... oh darling, if ever a sensual Dom existed, it is that platinum blonde angel. He can manipulate the atmosphere in a room like no other, he can mind**** you in such twisted and breathtaking ways... "erotic" does not do Him justice. And those hands... you can tell when He touches you that He's a master musician....
He can command obedience with a mere whisper.

THAT Lucifer?

I will tolerate no ill speech against Him.

haha, sorry, couldn't help it.

A person very dear to me was badly hurt through a misunderstanding and miscommunication. For this, I am sorry, and he knows it. That said, any blaming me for malicious intent is for the birds. I will not wear some scarlet letter, I will not be anybody's whipping girl, and I will not lurk in silence.

(01-06-2014 05:05 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote: i have a living loving relationship with God that is how I know He exists.

This evidence i speak of is that the cause of the universe is more plausibly God.

Well damn. You started out acting like there was some real evidence. Now I can't believe this started by you telling me what I believe, and what I must believe, then you telling me how irrational I am for believing (things I never claimed to believe but you insisted on knowing I believe them), and now it is ending with you saying that you know god exists because you love him? You called me irrational.

Ok so let me get this straight.

Your only proof that god created the universe is that the universe exists, and your only proof that god exists is that in order to create the universe he must exist?

O.o

Therefore flying spaghetti monster. CHECKMATE.

Official ordained minister of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Please pm me with prayer requests to his noodly goodness. Remember, he boiled for your sins and loves you. Carbo Diem! RAmen.

(01-06-2014 05:34 PM)goodwithoutgod Wrote: You claim nothing can exist without a cause, that includes your fairy tale, made up by man...god. Thus at some point, he must have POPped into existence...unless there is a *gasp* "god" creator who I posit is the purple unicorn, he IS all powerful you know.