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Although many people feel that they live in a diverse community, many "diverse" suburban neighborhoods have a very small African-American or Hispanic population. Why? Property value decreases if these groups move into the area. Chew on that.

they tend to stay together... When I lived in Aloha about a minute walking from Beaverton you can actually see the change, it's fairly odd... I grew up in Milwaukie so the move to Aloha was very odd, especially hearing hooptie music 24/7 extremely loud.

Originally posted by Kawarami: Although many people feel that they live in a diverse community, many "diverse" suburban neighborhoods have a very small African-American or Hispanic population. Why? Property value decreases if these groups move into the area. Chew on that.

This has to be the most retarded comment I've heard in a while. I can jus picture that whole scenario that leads up tp this, some redneck racist tellin his son. "Listen heaya boyyy, when them black folk start comin 'round, them prices be droppin like shit from a jackass's ass." hehe. The reason why black and hispanic people don't live in those neighborhoods is because of how our social system is set up. Minorities are kept dumb and intoxicated because we need people to do the dirty work. If everybody was educated and wealthy, who would they get to clean bathrooms and sit in parking booths? I'm not sayin it's a conspiracy thing but the fact is, the rich get richer while the poor get poorer. It's not like "white" people could stop black and hispanics from moving into suburban neighborhood. I mean, unless you have a lynchmob chase them out then it's impossible. Anybody can live anywhere if the have the rite amount of money. The fact is that most blacks and hispanics do not.

How is it the most retarded comment that you have read in a while? I am merely stating the fact that there are very little African Americans and Hispanics in my district. I also learned that the larger the population of African Americans and Hispanics in my area, the less the property value will become.

Originally posted by Kawarami: How is it the most retarded comment that you have read in a while? I am merely stating the fact that there are very little African Americans and Hispanics in my district. I also learned that the larger the population of African Americans and Hispanics in my area, the less the property value will become.

but thats not how it works. Do you know what the Hamptons are? It's the most expensive suburb in the New York area. now, there a lot of rich black people living there, along with former President Clinton. Do you think the property value is gonna go down there? fuck no. The fact is that the property value goes down based on the crime rate and other factor like how the neighborhood looks and how it's schools are. If you wanna say that I'll believe it. but jus saying that blacks and hispanics living in a area will lower the property value is not correct. That is unless you are a racist and believe that blacks and hispanics will make the crime rate go up and fuck up the schools.

That is unless you are a racist and believe that blacks and hispanics will make the crime rate go up and fuck up the schools.

that doesn't make someone a racist... it makes them a realist. cuz c'mon.. let's be realistic here. there is a higher rate of crime in the minority community. now i'm not saying that every black man or hispanic man is a criminal... just that stereotypes are there for a reason. because they are predominatly predisposed to criminal activity.

hahahaha.... god. i'm gonna get shit for this. but i don't care.

"when you look around, you can't tell me honestly you're happy with what you see"

You can't say that there is a higher rate of crime in the minority communities. To say that there is a higher rate of conviction for minorities would be more accurate. I'm positive many minorities are falsely convicted of crimes every day, where as white folks have the confidence and resources to defend themselves and aren't scared into a plea bargain by the prosecutor. I'm a bigger fan of cultural stereotypes myself. Black people got their own black trash, commonly know as "niggers." Our own group of trash happens to be called "rednecks."Rednecks definetly bring down property value, what with all the Pabst litterin the ground and shit.

I am a realist, but to get into crime rate there is so much more depth that I seriuosly don't want to talk about. anything from the poor education, bad parenting, no oppurtunities for further education, being surrouned by drugs and violence, etc. There are so many reasons minorities have to turn to crime. like I said, I'm not gonna get into that argument.

Rednecks definetly bring down property value, what with all the Pabst litterin the ground and shit.

hahaha.. that is true. don't forget about the trans-am that is all rusted out, missing all tires and up on cinder blocks in the front yard.. yeehaw!

about the poor education, bad parenting and no oppurtunities for further education: 1: it's not just minorities getting poor education. look to any of the public schools in this country. no one going to a public school is getting a good education. all they learn these days is how to conform and do what they're told. they don't learn anything other than what is deemed as "good social behavior" by the schools.

2: bad parenting: huh? it is unfair to claim that bad parenting is cause for the problems in the minority community. why? because there are just as many white americans that have been or still are victims of bad parenting.

3: no oppurtunities for further education: well, it seems these days the minorities have the upper hand in this one. no one wants to be deemed as "unfair" or "racist" to minorities, so colleges have racial quotas they must meet every year. also Affirmative Action has made sure that minorities get what has been decided is "their fair share". there are many programs out there specifically to help minorities go to college. true, there are grants and scholarships for white kids too, but think about it. there are no exclusively "white kid" school loans. there are for minorities. most times a minority will get a school loan or scholarship just because he's a minority. while the white kid doesn't get dick because he's white and white people apparently already have everything they need.

so in short, what i'm trying to say is that true, there are problems in the minority community that hold them back. but there are just as many problems now in the white community. so we are pretty much equal in that aspect. granted the problems are different, but still problems none the less. that doesn't give anyone, colored or white, the excuse to go out there and kill or steal. it doesn't give anyone the right to commit serious crimes.

"when you look around, you can't tell me honestly you're happy with what you see"

in my city, the majority of ppl aren't rich. by rich i mean, coming from a family that already has money. we don't have any actors living here, no top clothes designers or whatever. however, the price for property in my city is actually quite a bit. the ppl that live here can afford to live here b/c they work hard. i have two neighbors, one family is black, the other is puerto rican. now, we do have those sections of this city where there are predominantly rich ppl and those parts which we call the projects. i believe it's all a matter of how hard you want to work and what you do with your money. a friend of mine works on this guys house doing tiling and grouting. this guy was Leboneise(?), started as an employee in a gas station. the guy worked extremely hard and now owns 3 gas stations and lives in an extremely elaborate house. at my job, there's an employee of mine who works as much as he can. he's black and he's an inner city kid. lived in boston, but he and his family worked extremely hard and now live in a good house in a good city. him being there doens't bring the property value down. pretty much everything but race determines property value. crime rates, average family incomes, location, etc...//

Unbodied unsouled unheard unseenLet the gift be grown in the time to call our ownTruth is natural like a wind that blowsFollow the direction no matter where it goesLet the truth blow like a hurricane through me

yeah.. gollum.. i agree with you. working hard is what gets you the money, respect etc. no matter what your race is, if you work your ass off and actually earn everything you have, then you are pretty cool in my book. and that's kind of what i was getting at in my last post. that every race has it's own problems and setbacks to deal with. but anyone can overcome them if they go about things the correct way. i.e. working hard, being honest etc.

"when you look around, you can't tell me honestly you're happy with what you see"