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Re: 2013 MLB thread

If it turns out A-Rod is lying about this, it just seems impossible to believe he can ever wear a Yankee uniform again despite the unlikelihood that his contract would be voided. he not only used in Texas but most of his Yankee career.....his MVP performance in 2009 was spearheaded by his cheating...taints the WS the Yanks won. That was supposed to be his legacy with the Yankees...he got them to a WS and played a big part of them winning it all. Just so completely tainted, anything he does is suspect. The rich irony is he may have paid for all this cheating by breaing down his own body and being reduced to a shell of what he once was. For what?!!! He had tremendous natural gifts, he hould have been an all time great on his talent and dedication alone. Like Lance Armstrong, he will be defined( if this is provable) to have built his career on a great big lie.... and he will pay with a mighty fall.

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First Spring Training game for my World Champion San Francisco Giants kicks off in 3 1/2 hours. I'm psyched. Thanks to the MLB At Bat app (and a $20 subscription), just like last year I can hear the radio call of all the Giants' games here in DC.

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Originally Posted by Sausy

If it turns out A-Rod is lying about this, it just seems impossible to believe he can ever wear a Yankee uniform again despite the unlikelihood that his contract would be voided. he not only used in Texas but most of his Yankee career.....his MVP performance in 2009 was spearheaded by his cheating...taints the WS the Yanks won. That was supposed to be his legacy with the Yankees...he got them to a WS and played a big part of them winning it all. Just so completely tainted, anything he does is suspect. The rich irony is he may have paid for all this cheating by breaing down his own body and being reduced to a shell of what he once was. For what?!!! He had tremendous natural gifts, he hould have been an all time great on his talent and dedication alone. Like Lance Armstrong, he will be defined( if this is provable) to have built his career on a great big lie.... and he will pay with a mighty fall.

Indeed..it's sad to see someone with so much talent cheat the way he did. As for tainted titles..given the fact so many of the recent World Series winners have people who have been caught cheating,I sadly don't think any team can throw stones.
I'll say this about A-Rod,part of his ruin came IMO from trying to live up to his contract and the other part..his envy of Jeter and wanting the fame and adoration Jeter's gotten.

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As a Mets fan I may be a little to giddy watching that Yankees lineup going out on the field with walkers and canes Even the starting lineup is a big question and this year I think for sure the Mets starters have it over the Yankees.

Now I am no Yankees hater, those who know also know that I have always had the most respect for that franchise, how could you not. BUT, this year, come on, lemme have a little fun at the Yankees expense as a long suffering Met fan I think I deserve that.

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I was very nervous about the Yankees this season, actually ALOT of people were and after all the injuries, the worries wrong worse. But i have to say, they been pretty good so far! I always been a huge Youk fan, going back to his Soxs days. He has done well and so has Wells (didnt like him coming over at first.

You can never count them out. As we know they are the most popular sports team in the tri-state area, the most popular baseball team in the US and the most recognizable mlb team in the world. I still love my Yanks, but until my Brooklyn Nets are out of the play offs, i been focusing more on them for the time being.

Also, laughing at the terrible starts the Blue Jays and Angels been facing, sorry i dont see neither of these teams being in the world series this year.

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Something about putting on the pinstripes does osmething to a lot of players. Plus,a lot of these guys have pride and they are in full on I'll show you mode.
As for the Blue Jays,they traded for players that couldn't work well down in Miami,what made them think it would change elsewhere? As for the Angels,if you don't have pitching,nothing else matters.

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Yankee fans are happy I am sure to know that Derek Jeter is cleared for rehab assignment.
He will join Triple-A Scranton tomorrow where he will play 5 innings at SS
All the best to the Captain he deserves to continue his outstanding career as one of the best in baseball.

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Is anyone participating in the Final Vote for the All-Star Game? I've been splitting my NL votes between Ian Desmond of the Nats (love!) and Hunter Pence, who everybody in Philadelphia loved when he was here (and got a World Series ring with the Giants). But I'm clueless on the AL side. I've been voting for Robertson because he's tied to the Nats and he seems perfectly OK...but, oh, it kills me to be voting for a Yankee. If you have a better choice tell me soon!

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Originally Posted by King Gumby VIII

Harper needs to stop arguing with umps over calls. Need to curb his temper.
Ejected after arguing a called third strike.

I agree, if a player feels he was given a bad call he can tell the ump why he disagrees but it must be done in a professional manner. Arguing yelling or whatever will do him no good in fact it just sets ther stage for more bad calls the rest of the game. The catcher should do most of the talking in that situation anyway since sometimes it's the catchers fault for a bad call and has a better shot at convincing the ump the call was wrong, catchers and umpires have a relationship all their own. It wont matter in thr long run cause a call is never changed anyway.

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Originally Posted by Ninja108

Such a shame that Mo's final year as a Yankee will be in this mess.

It is a shame, Ninja. Mariano representing what's right about the game has to take a back seat to a spoiled, entitled brat who STILL doesn't get it. Sad overall that Derek Jeter has had nothing but misery with injuries always doing the right thing as well. Looking at the Yankee stats...goodness this is as awful statistically a Yankee club that I've seen in more than twenty years, and while it's great Mariano has staged an incredible comeback from that terrible knee injury he and to a certain extent Robinson Cano(no way a $150-200 Million dollar player, btw....major league contracts risking more than six years are nuts anyway) there is no greatness left on this Yankee club anymore. CC Sabathia is imploding, another exclamation point against giving very long term contracts(in which he had an opt out and then got a lucrative additional year extension)and Andy Pettitte has been awful lately. He's always been kind of hittable, but he never was spectacularly ineffective like this and tended to pitch better as the seasons wore on. Guess time for Andy to go too, a bit less ceremoniously than Mariano. And Phil Hughes... once thought the next great Yankee, he'd be better off somewhere else and may never really amount to more than a serviceable journeyman.

I'm no huge Yankee fan but always respected them, and the kind of pride and professionalism their players have had in their illustrious history. I was sad for Don Mattingly that he never really got to taste all the winning, all the championship contention forced to retire due to his back just as the new winning age returned to the Yankee organization. Alex Rodriguez however just leaves me cold.... okay, the neediness and all the drama was reminiscent of Reggie Jackson, but Jackson had tremendous mental strength to deal with the shit, and owned rightly the nickname "Mr. October" for his postseason heroics. Reggie didn't develop a decade long juicing enhancement...the asshole Rodriguez did, embarrassed the organization and fans once, used in Texas, then with the Yanks , got caught, promised to be good and had his fingers crossed behind his back all the time. He went all in with Biogenesis, recruited players, tried to obstruct evidence and intimidate witnesses if what baseball reportedly has on him is accurate. He was cheating in 2010, 2011, 2012.... yet he has the gall to keep fighting MLB when he is lucky they don't abrogate his contract altogether? Maybe not playing through 2014 might get something into his head that the jig is up and it's time to pay the piper. He still gets his money for 2015-2017 anyway but I don't know how he can ever seriously put on a Yankee uniform again once his suspension actually does take effect, when there are no more appeals to be heard. Yankee fans deserve better than this fool, especially as they say goodbye after this season to a real Yankee who knew how to wear his uniform with pride in Mariano Rivera.

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I wrote about this in the Mets thread but wanted to add it here as well.
I thought the way he Phillies handled Charlie Manuel’s firing was a disgrace, a total insult to a great man. It could have been handled better the man’s contract is up this year anyways so why not replace him next year with dignity. Let’s not forget he won the 2008 WS championship as well as 5 straight NL East titles and is the manager with the most wins in Philadelphia’s history with 1000 wins. Charlie was replaced by third base coach Ryan Sandburg who clearly was looking over Charlie’s shoulder waitin to take over. I am sure gonna miss good ole Charlie next time the Mets play the Phillies He is one of the really nice guys in the game loved by his team and the fans and we all wish him well. What the Phillies did was weak!

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Agree 100% about Charlie Manuel's classless firing and added some more in the Mets thread.... also wanted to congratulate Ichiro Suzuki on his 4,000th career hit in a professional major leagues couple of nights back... has 2,733 hits in MLB, mostly of course with the Seattle Mariners and 1,270 back in Japan. To do it at Yankee Stadium is yet another highlight in the grand history of the New York Yankees. Though Ichiro isn't quite the star player he was in his Japan and Seattle days he still exudes professionalism and class and he does himself proud finishing his career(at least in the US) as a New York Yankee.

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Don't forget everyone this is a thread for ALL baseball fans, regardless of team. Yankees, Mariners, Cubs, Dodgers, Red Sox,Giants, Cardinals, Orioles, Nationals, Angels.... all MLB. We know there are a lot of baseball fans here in JUBland and we want to hear from you!

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Originally Posted by gtru1981

wow.. have to say.. this thread is pretty dead this year.

You got that right gtru

Originally Posted by Sausy

Don't forget everyone this is a thread for ALL baseball fans, regardless of team. Yankees, Mariners, Cubs, Dodgers, Red Sox,Giants, Cardinals, Orioles, Nationals, Angels.... all MLB. We know there are a lot of baseball fans here in JUBland and we want to hear from you!

Appreciate those words Saucy but it will probably fall on deaf ears as it always does when I try and generate interest in spots threads. Same thing happens in the Mets threads with over 2900 hits there have been only 230 posts most of which comes from the same group of a few people. Why so many visit the thread read it and have nothing to add is beyond me.
No thoughts suggestions ideas or comments of any kind is very sad.
Ninja Thanks for starting this thread I know your heart was in the right place but there is just little interest in baseball here at JUB. Still thanks for trying.
It’s times like this I really miss Cory (Absolut) who always added fun and interesting things to the threads here.

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Originally Posted by sonny10305

You got that right gtru

Appreciate those words Saucy but it will probably fall on deaf ears as it always does when I try and generate interest in spots threads. Same thing happens in the Mets threads with over 2900 hits there have been only 230 posts most of which comes from the same group of a few people. Why so many visit the thread read it and have nothing to add is beyond me.
No thoughts suggestions ideas or comments of any kind is very sad.
Ninja Thanks for starting this thread I know your heart was in the right place but there is just little interest in baseball here at JUB. Still thanks for trying.
It’s times like this I really miss Cory (Absolut) who always added fun and interesting things to the threads here.

Miss Cory too, sonny. I still hope we continue these threads though... Ninja, gtru, Thad, very occasionally Scrub will even pop in but I really wish others viewing, like sonny referred give us some of their perspectives as well. It's not as if we'll bite you... well, not unless you ask!

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Yankees were really taken to school by the Red Sox just when they were making a huge push for the wild card positions. Still a shot now but really were hurt by the sweep by Boston. Most disheartening is that their ace CC Sabathia has become very ordinary this year. 23 mil a year for a guy with close to a 5 ERA? Who aside from an occasional game now just can't put anyone away. He used to carry teams on his back with Cleveland and New York, now he looks like he may be finished as anything but a journeyman pitcher...and has four years of big money left on his contract.

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Sad to say,but we were in trouble before the Boston series and as you pointed out,CC is one of the key reasons why. Our starters not doing well has resulted in a gased out bullpen,which has an ERA of over 7 now.
I'll also say this,our horrible offense hid the fact that our pitching was the main problem,and even with some players coming back,we could still get shut down.
I came to terms with us not going to the postseason a while back. Mo retiring after this year will be quite another.

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Ivan Nova has really rebounded after injuries affected his performance last season and until his most recent start he had been with Kuroda( until his previous two starts before his last better one) the mainstays of the rotation. But with Phil Hughes's utter awfulness, Sabathia's season second half collapse and the erratic options other than Andy Petitte( who himself has been up and down thisd season) the starting rotation has been pretty leaky, nothing to be confident about. Of course that is going to tax the relief staff, and I really wish Mariano Rivera reconsiders retirement and does return for another year.

The Yankees are really in a weird situation... mostly dependent on veterans where even if production is good tend to get injured. Alfonso Soriano missing a few games has really hurt the lineup as he has been the most dynamic bat in the lineup since coming back to the Yanks shortly before the non waiver trade deadline. As great as Robinson Cano is he seems to thrive with Soriano. The sad thing is the great farm system the Yanks were supposed to have just hasn't panned out of yet, and the young reinforcements needed to complement the pricey veterans and give the Yanks budget flexibility and trade options are now one of the Yankees' biggest question marks heading into 2014... never mind the still iffy prospect of postseason play this year.

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Originally Posted by Sausy

Ivan Nova has really rebounded after injuries affected his performance last season and until his most recent start he had been with Kuroda( until his previous two starts before his last better one) the mainstays of the rotation. But with Phil Hughes's utter awfulness, Sabathia's season second half collapse and the erratic options other than Andy Petitte( who himself has been up and down thisd season) the starting rotation has been pretty leaky, nothing to be confident about. Of course that is going to tax the relief staff, and I really wish Mariano Rivera reconsiders retirement and does return for another year.

The Yankees are really in a weird situation... mostly dependent on veterans where even if production is good tend to get injured. Alfonso Soriano missing a few games has really hurt the lineup as he has been the most dynamic bat in the lineup since coming back to the Yanks shortly before the non waiver trade deadline. As great as Robinson Cano is he seems to thrive with Soriano. The sad thing is the great farm system the Yanks were supposed to have just hasn't panned out of yet, and the young reinforcements needed to complement the pricey veterans and give the Yanks budget flexibility and trade options are now one of the Yankees' biggest question marks heading into 2014... never mind the still iffy prospect of postseason play this year.

The off season is going to be interesting, rumors are going around about 1/2 of the players wouldn't be back.

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Originally Posted by sonny10305

You got that right gtru

Appreciate those words Saucy but it will probably fall on deaf ears as it always does when I try and generate interest in spots threads. Same thing happens in the Mets threads with over 2900 hits there have been only 230 posts most of which comes from the same group of a few people. Why so many visit the thread read it and have nothing to add is beyond me.
No thoughts suggestions ideas or comments of any kind is very sad.
Ninja Thanks for starting this thread I know your heart was in the right place but there is just little interest in baseball here at JUB. Still thanks for trying.
It’s times like this I really miss Cory (Absolut) who always added fun and interesting things to the threads here.

I will say, I take blame for some of it. Haven't posted much at all this year and even in the Mets one as well. Really haven't popped up on this website, I try better going forward.

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Gotta say to gtru and Ninja that I'm very sorry to see the Yanks just go down like this and get eliminated from all playoff considerations. I don't know what happened to Phil Hughes... I mean he just ISN'T this bad, but he's seen his last it appears as a Yankee and I don't know if he will ever be a serviceable starting pitcher again. So many injuries too... and Sabathia being so bad most of the second half with Kuroda too losing his first half magic... virtually no Jeter, Teixeira and no Gardner down the stretch... carried by has beens, then some by the reacquired Alfonso Soriano and Roberto Cano( who despite risks and occasional lollygagging play the Yanks MUST re-up if the considerations aren't ridiculously expensive and long term) then the collapse in Boston this past weekend and a couple of bad efforts last two games. Just sad to see a great franchise looking so vulnerable. I love the Mets but want to se a strong Yankee franchise in New York and I hope somehow Brian Casnhman can make a transition to a healthier, better prepared and executing club next year forward.

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IMO Sausy,the problem is at some point,there was goign to be a rebuilding year. But on a team where anything short of a championshp is a failure,that simply can't happen.
As for Hughes,he never developed an out pitch. In the bullpen,he was electric in 09,but as a starter,his lack of pitches bit him in the butt.
As for the rest,you said it better then I could. We simply got hit with too many injuries and our starters fell apart.
Better to end this way then b e humilated in the postseason.

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Congrats to the St Louis Cards and the Boston Red Sox as they head to the World Series. Two outstanding teams slugging it out for the win. My choice has to be the Cards I don’t see it as a rematch of the 2004 World Series, when the Red Sox swept the Cardinals, no “curse” this year. I have think about Cory (Absolut) where ever he is and how excited he must be for the Cards

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Originally Posted by cityboy-stl

It's like a never ending party around here!

Did you mean the Cards loss last night or that no one posts here it is clear that there just aren’t t many baseball fans here at JUB it gets frustrating when so little is posted in fact I doubt I am going to create any more Mets threads just not worth the trouble with so little response, We used to have a few steady posters but that has now changed

So the first WS game did not go all that well the problems began early, in the first inning or even before it started it was not a good sign when Wainwright hit his head on the low ceiling coming out of the dugout. The Cardinals didn't play like the Cardinals especially in defense stuff like Pete Kozma not able to catch Matt Carpenter's feed, and all made worse when the umpire incorrectly called the runner out, the rest of the umpires all told him that his initial call was wrong. What should have been an n easy double play ball with men on first and second when Matt Carpenter flipped to Pete Kozma for the first out ... then this happened:

Second base umpire called Dustin Pedroia out at second base, saying Kozma bobbled the transfer. Nope ya got that wrong ump that ain't what happened Kozma just missed the ball.
I thought we caught a break when the umpiring crew got together and talked the play over after an argument by John Farrell. But after a minute or two, the call was overturned and Pedroia was told to go to second and e everyone was safe, truthfully that was the right call the umpires getting the call right.
The best news they had Wednesday was that Carlos Beltran's ribs are bruised, not broken, after his outstanding catch that turned a David Ortiz grand slam into a sacrifice fly. But while Beltran may return we won’t know when should know more before today’s game sure would be a shame if it turns out the injury will compromise him for the rest of the series

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Originally Posted by sonny10305

Did you mean the Cards loss last night or that no one posts here it is clear that there just aren’t t many baseball fans here at JUB it gets frustrating when so little is posted in fact I doubt I am going to create any more Mets threads just not worth the trouble with so little response, We used to have a few steady posters but that has now changed

I meant a never ending party around here in Saint Louis with all the Cardinals stuff everywhere, parades, newspaper headlines and on TV and radio, everyone wearing Cardinals shirts, turning the water red in public fountains, highway banners and so on.

So...yeah...the first game didn't go well. But they're not called the come-back Cardinals for nothing. Oh well, have to put on my Cardinals shirt and go to work now.

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Originally Posted by cityboy-stl

I meant a never ending party around here in Saint Louis with all the Cardinals stuff everywhere, parades, newspaper headlines and on TV and radio, everyone wearing Cardinals shirts, turning the water red in public fountains, highway banners and so on.

So...yeah...the first game didn't go well. But they're not called the come-back Cardinals for nothing. Oh well, have to put on my Cardinals shirt and go to work now.

Gotcha I am sure it would be the same back home in NY had the Mets or Yankees been in it so enjoy

I am in Arizona and I watched the game with 2 major and 3 minor league ball payers and the overall thought was Oh No Cards/Sox here we go again.
Lets go Cards!