I'm dead srs (for once ). I've been cutting down as well and my arms are beginning to appear larger than they were despite the measuring tape telling me otherwise. That's what happens when you get lean enough and have enough mass relative to your frame.

He took a pic with a measuring tape around them too to prove it, but idk where it is. But yeah, if you're lean enough and have enough mass you'll look a lot bigger than you really are, even though the tape measure and the scale may say otherwise.

I'm dead srs (for once ). I've been cutting down as well and my arms are beginning to appear larger than they were despite the measuring tape telling me otherwise. That's what happens when you get lean enough and have enough mass relative to your frame.

No way b nevas are 14. Mine are 16 and they look as big if not bigger than mine. And he's lower bf than me

You can be as cold as the winter weather but I don't care as long as were together <3

that's crazy man. I see what you mean. Still crazy, wish I was 7%bf year round with 16s. That would be amazing. My arms suck

Yep, many naturals are forever in bulk mode and just trying to hold onto those larger measurements, but they don't realize how impressive they'd look if they cut down and just ignored the scale/measuring tape. I remember back in my old gym, the most impressive looking guy was only 5'9-5'10 & 153 lbs. He was so lean with just enough mass that he stood out against all the steroid users and looked big and impressive, yet looking back his arms couldn't have been any larger than 14-14.5". The most muscular-looking guy in my current gym is the same way, I just don't know his exact weight or measurements but he's very lean. Pretty crazy though how big of a difference being lean makes when you have enough mass.

yep, many naturals are forever in bulk mode and just trying to hold onto those larger measurements, but they don't realize how impressive they'd look if they cut down and just ignored the scale/measuring tape. I remember back in my old gym, the most impressive looking guy was only 5'9-5'10 & 153 lbs. He was so lean with just enough mass that he stood out against all the steroid users and looked big and impressive, yet looking back his arms couldn't have been any larger than 14-14.5". The most muscular-looking guy in my current gym is the same way, i just don't know his exact weight or measurements but he's very lean. Pretty crazy though how big of a difference being lean makes when you have enough mass.

yeah bro lol. It's crazy. Leaness can make you look so much larger. Shows really hoe much bodybuilding is all about illusions

You can be as cold as the winter weather but I don't care as long as were together <3

yeah bro lol. It's crazy. Leaness can make you look so much larger. Shows really hoe much bodybuilding is all about illusions

It's funny because before my old gym closed down, I stood next to the lean impressive looking guy and looked a lot wider than him in the mirror despite his shoulders looking like boulders. Back then I weighed 160 lbs and wasn't carrying nearly the amount of lean mass I am now, but it made me wonder how big those shoulders really were. It's mainly the small/average boned guys that look much more impressive when cutting down, as many larger boned guys can still look big with more body fat. Jon Harris for example, an average-boned bodybuilding champ, doesn't look like he would stand out in the average fitness center in the off season despite being one of the best natural bodybuilders in the world.

so being leaner makes you look bigger are you guys saying i should just go straight to cutting in order to look bigger:S

Not necessarily. You want to spend a good 2-3 years doing everything it takes to add as much mass to your frame naturally and that will be the best time to cut. Particularly if you're small-boned, you should be looking good in a lean state once you hit a 1.5x BW bench / 2x BW squat / 2.5x BW deadlift (assuming your bf% isn't that high) as long as you've been eating enough to grow during that time. Larger boned guys usually need to be a bit stronger before they start looking as good.

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