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Comments on MetaFilter post Kodos 2008!Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:43:55 -0800Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:43:55 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60Kodos 2008!http://www.metafilter.com/66671/Kodos-2008
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2007/11/18/opinion/20071118_OPART_index.html">Reading Tea Leaves and Campaign Logos</a> , a design critique of the 2008 presidential campaign logos. <small>Via <a href="http://www.daringfireball.net">Daring Fireball</a></small>post:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.66671Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:35:33 -0800nathan_teskecampaignpresidentlogodesignBy: tepidmonkeyhttp://www.metafilter.com/66671/Kodos-2008#1917239
A fun read, but the design criticizer isn't making many profound points. On the slide about Hillary Clinton's campaign logo it says, "Interesting font choice: The 'I' and the 'L's all look like the number 1." Well, there aren't many serif fonts where they don't.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.66671-1917239Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:43:55 -0800tepidmonkeyBy: goatdoghttp://www.metafilter.com/66671/Kodos-2008#1917258
That "I" sure looks like a number 1--with a disembodied decimal point floating above it! I.e., Hillary Clinton is pro-math! Subtle, yet brilliant!comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.66671-1917258Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:02:15 -0800goatdogBy: shakespeherianhttp://www.metafilter.com/66671/Kodos-2008#1917262
Hey, it's nice to see Ward Sutton again.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.66671-1917262Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:06:53 -0800shakespeherianBy: maryhhttp://www.metafilter.com/66671/Kodos-2008#1917267
I hadn't noticed Rudy's <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2007/11/18/opinion/20071118_OPART_9.html">secure red border</a>. I'm kind of impressed by how unabashedly literal that design is.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.66671-1917267Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:11:16 -0800maryhBy: RavinDavehttp://www.metafilter.com/66671/Kodos-2008#1917275
I don't get it. Is that a joke? An Onion-esque parody? It sure sounds like one. It would actually be interesting to her what a legitimate designer has to say -- one who is not aware of the people involved and not obviously projecting their biases into their critiques.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.66671-1917275Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:15:44 -0800RavinDaveBy: delmoihttp://www.metafilter.com/66671/Kodos-2008#1917352
I always thought Obama's logo was brilliant, especially the version with gradients. Most political logos are absurdly boring, but his wasn't.
I also thought Kerry/Edward's logo was more interesting then Bush/Cheney's
I mean I'm sorry but big fat sans-serif gets old after a while.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.66671-1917352Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:25:30 -0800delmoiBy: RavinDavehttp://www.metafilter.com/66671/Kodos-2008#1917391
Lemme see ... the flag on Kerry/Edwards is bad "clipart", but on "Bush/Cheney" it forever links Bush to the flag? The "i" and the "ll's" in Hillary's look like number #1's; why can't I claim that the "ill" combination sends a subtle message that her campaign is not well? Oh, and funny how her use of the first name is deemed significant, but evidently unimportant in Rudy's case. And what are the odds that Fred Thompson -- constantly dinged for being lazy -- would have that same criticism applied to his logo? One suspects that if he were more popular, that instead of criticizing the "lazy" design, the critique would probably praise it as "no-nonsense" and "spartan".comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.66671-1917391Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:03:58 -0800RavinDaveBy: Etaoin Shrdluhttp://www.metafilter.com/66671/Kodos-2008#1917421
Appealing to base: White letters on blue background – Like Fox News.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.66671-1917421Mon, 19 Nov 2007 00:08:29 -0800Etaoin ShrdluBy: BrianBoykohttp://www.metafilter.com/66671/Kodos-2008#1917482
Weirdly, this works out really well for Huckabee. Keep in mind that the Republican base probably doesn't read internet memes. To them, this is completely new material.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.66671-1917482Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:40:52 -0800BrianBoykoBy: DenOfSizerhttp://www.metafilter.com/66671/Kodos-2008#1917490
Totally realistic ending, in that designers can analyze typography til the cows come home, but that people are just either going to think it's cool or not. (I like Obama's logo, too, but it reminds me of a Japanese flag, fwiw.)comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.66671-1917490Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:09:03 -0800DenOfSizerBy: malapropisthttp://www.metafilter.com/66671/Kodos-2008#1917536
Good point, RavinDave. Another example is the comment that the designer of Obama's logo may be inexperienced. Ha ha.
If you ask me, Obama's logo is very web 2.0.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.66671-1917536Mon, 19 Nov 2007 05:52:02 -0800malapropistBy: Kronosshttp://www.metafilter.com/66671/Kodos-2008#1917599
Couldn't we just as easily read Guiliani's logo as red (state) on the outside but blue (state) on the inside?comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.66671-1917599Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:07:58 -0800KronossBy: Nelsonhttp://www.metafilter.com/66671/Kodos-2008#1917675
What could be a better emblem of the ineffectualness of the intellectual left than an online-only New York Times op/ed about the presidential candidates. Only not about the candidates really, just their logos. I'm looking forward to some new articles about the fast food preferences of the candidates; does Hillary like McDonalds like her husband does?
And while I respect the comic style and all, it's really frustrating seeing crudely drawn pen renderings of the actual logos. Bleah.
I really <i>like</i> <a href="http://www.johnmccain.com/Images/mccain2_header_03.jpg">McCain's logo</a>. It's new design, very clean, and with an overt message.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.66671-1917675Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:40:05 -0800NelsonBy: ookhttp://www.metafilter.com/66671/Kodos-2008#1917734
Well, if nothing else, I thought the gag about the Bush/Cheney logo only representing the top half of the flag and throwing away the bottom was pretty funny.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.66671-1917734Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:01:17 -0800ookBy: tadellinhttp://www.metafilter.com/66671/Kodos-2008#1917899
<i>Well, if nothing else, I thought the gag about the Bush/Cheney logo only representing the top half of the flag and throwing away the bottom was pretty funny.</i>
Yeah, and it was even funnier that he didn't point out that Hillary used EVEN LESS of the top portion of the flag. HAHAcomment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.66671-1917899Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:57:26 -0800tadellinBy: ookhttp://www.metafilter.com/66671/Kodos-2008#1918101
Well... if there were any way in which that concept related to Hillary or her policies, then yeah, you'd have a point.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.66671-1918101Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:01:15 -0800ookBy: Ambrosia Voyeurhttp://www.metafilter.com/66671/Kodos-2008#1918146
Metafilter: White letters on blue background – Like Fox News.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.66671-1918146Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:50:44 -0800Ambrosia VoyeurBy: humannairehttp://www.metafilter.com/66671/Kodos-2008#1918522
Whoa! The media boycott of <a href="http://www.dennis4president.com/">Dennis Kucinich</a> extends to comics?comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.66671-1918522Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:35:20 -0800humannaire