anybody ever fix some light smoke damage? there is a room right next to the kitchen(that had the small fire) with a 30 foot ceiling and there is smoke particles(black)cobwebs,but the ceiling doesn't look brown. would you prime the whole thing or just paint it? I am going to prime the whole kitchen because it looks pretty bad,but the great room only has smoke damage i can see right at the dorrway from the kitchen. what would any of you do?

In my experience, if your spraying, you don't need to do anything but spray it with your choice of paint. If your rolling it, it may need a couple coats, but that smoke damage will not come through if the paint covers well. The ONLY reason anyone might or should prime over smoke damage is to seal in the smell, otherwise what's the purpose? It doesn't bleed through like nicotine or water damage stains.

In my experience, if your spraying, you don't need to do anything but spray it with your choice of paint. If your rolling it, it may need a couple coats, but that smoke damage will not come through if the paint covers well. The ONLY reason anyone might or should prime over smoke damage is to seal in the smell, otherwise what's the purpose? It doesn't bleed through like nicotine or water damage stains.

Man, I just about couldnt disagree more. Smoke is a stain. Why would you not block it as a precautionary measure? Sometimes I dont get this place.

I hope I am wrong, but its stuff like this that makes it look like some painters just want to whitewash and move on...get in and out as quickly as possible and charge for a proper job whether one is delivered or not. Not pointing fingers, but that was a post that makes me wonder.

I hope I am wrong, but its stuff like this that makes it look like some painters just want to whitewash and move on...get in and out as quickly as possible and charge for a proper job whether one is delivered or not. Not pointing fingers, but that was a post that makes me wonder.

I cant agree more with this. I always want to take the proper steps. even with the new latex out that say you can apply over oil base. I have seen more and more painters that will take this chance to save a buck. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night worrying if it will hold up. It is better to do it right and sleep at night. Just like paying your taxes

In my experience, if your spraying, you don't need to do anything but spray it with your choice of paint. If your rolling it, it may need a couple coats, but that smoke damage will not come through if the paint covers well. The ONLY reason anyone might or should prime over smoke damage is to seal in the smell, otherwise what's the purpose? It doesn't bleed through like nicotine or water damage stains.

So are you saying you wouldn't wipe it down? sand it? or any other type of prep??

In my experience, if your spraying, you don't need to do anything but spray it with your choice of paint. If your rolling it, it may need a couple coats, but that smoke damage will not come through if the paint covers well. The ONLY reason anyone might or should prime over smoke damage is to seal in the smell, otherwise what's the purpose? It doesn't bleed through like nicotine or water damage stains.

This Question takes one back to the basics of painting. Even the HomeDepot paint mixer should know this one.

In my experience, if your spraying, you don't need to do anything but spray it with your choice of paint. If your rolling it, it may need a couple coats, but that smoke damage will not come through if the paint covers well. The ONLY reason anyone might or should prime over smoke damage is to seal in the smell, otherwise what's the purpose? It doesn't bleed through like nicotine or water damage stains.

You got me thinking bout you on this one. Respect level just dropped a few.

Gotta disagree on this one. Most smoke is lamp black - carbon. Lamp black is one of the most virulent colorants.

All smoke I know also has other solids in it, such as creosote or grease or other chemicals that will leech and come through a finish paint. It may not come through a heavily bodied paint in time for you to cash the check, but it WILL come through a "regular" paint in the future.

Shellac has been an age tested sealer. The white pigment in B-I-N makes it, IMO, the best choice to STOP smoke stain bleed-through.

-Bill

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Smoke damage, smoke stains, smoke smell, whether actual black from a fire, or that oily greasy furnace blow-back, or too many Glade stinky candles...doesn't really matter how or why, nearly always will bleed through and should be sealed in with shellac

Admittedly, if it's not too bad, a quality alkyd (oil) stain sealer might work OK
Unfortunately, most of us can't base our bids and reps on "might work OK"

Zinsser's BIN white pigmented shellac has been the standard fire damage sealer for years
I can't see why Sherwin's or Insl-X's wouldn't work just as well, but personally I have only used BIN smoke situations

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