1. I use chrome all the time on standard kernel seed settings. I use the older versions where those who like to run as root aren't penalized for doing such.
2. The seed is intended to get systems up and running with Linux. If you feel the need to change settings because a package requires it, that is beyond the scope of the seed.

A seed is intended to be the beginning of getting your Linux kernel where you want it. It is not the end. Any required tweaks to tailor the kernel to your system are up to you, the user.

Another day brings more goodies from the hardened-sources folks. I've just uploaded .configs for 2.6.32-hardened-r58 and 2.6.39-hardened-r8 in both x86 and x86_64 flavors. Enjoy!

imanidiot123,

Once again, the seed is more about getting things up and running. Your statement bears merit, but it is one of those things that goes beyond basic operation. That said, I am sure that there are a few folks who need to know that little bit of information.

That is part of what this discussion is for...what happens after things are running properly. Please keep the suggestions coming, as they are helpful in and of themselves, even if they never make it to a seed.

I see. Still, if there aren't any side effects, and it's found to be a common problem, it should be considered, though I suppose it might just eventually end up the default anyway, if it's a kind of transitional option while they're still testing it.

Thanks anyway, I've been using the kernel seeds for a while, and they've been a good help.

If your hardware supports USB Transaction Translation, you should use it instead of OHCI_HID/UHCI_HID.
However, if you don't have USB Transaction Translation, you need OHCI_HID/UHCI_HID for USB 1.1 devices.

Is one of those things where leaving it off is safe but turning it on and removing the old USB1.1 support, stops a lot of users mice/keyboard working.

Not all new equipment supports USB Transaction Translation either. Its in my two year old desktop but not my shiny new server.
The only way I know to find out if you have Transaction Translation support is to build a kernel and see. Of course, if its missing, you need a PS/2 keyboard or ssh access to shutdown cleanly._________________Regards,

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Computer users fall into two groups:-
those that do backups
those that have never had a hard drive fail.

Since you are the de-facto go-to guy for seeds, would you consider adding seeds for DomU's?

I myself have identified some .config settings *vital* for running Gentoo as a paravirtualized DomU over XenServer; they're part of my (still draft) article on Gentoo-wiki._________________Nobody is Perfect.
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Pardon my not getting back to you sooner. Our cable modem has a tendency to reboot itself for no good reason...and then, it won't come back online for hours at a time.

I've set a xen-source kernel using the basic vanilla seed. It seemed to work. I'd like to know more about xen, just for grins. Also, since I've written off the zen-sources folks, I do have room for another set of sources.

To get started, use a vanilla seed that is less than the version of xen-sources you're using. Enter make oldconfig, and set the proper xen settings of which you speak. Once you get it functional, remove your hardware settings, and send it along in a message here. Post the .config using pastebin, if you please.

To get started, use a vanilla seed that is less than the version of xen-sources you're using. Enter make oldconfig, and set the proper xen settings of which you speak. Once you get it functional, remove your hardware settings, and send it along in a message here. Post the .config using pastebin, if you please.

The funny thing about my *production* .config is that it's already free of all hardware drivers

I'll try making a vanilla-sources VM later today, and post the pastebin URI here.

(I'll also annotate the .config, because there are some settings that must be set 'just so', or else boot will fail, sometimes without any error message whatsoever)_________________Nobody is Perfect.
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I don't use Xen, but I do use vmware workstation 7.1.4 build-385536 -- that's not the free version, but the pay-for one. I have been using it to run winxp on my gentoo laptop. I chose the pay-for version because I use it to develop stuff for clients, so I need support -- mainly so I can say I have it, I find the forum support usually is quicker to resolve most problems anyway.

So I have not yet built a gentoo system to run under vmware, but its on my list. Any tidbits of experience you can share that might port to other virtual environments would be most welcome. _________________The MyWord KJV Bible tool is at http://www.elilabs.com/~myword

I don't use Xen, but I do use vmware workstation 7.1.4 build-385536 -- that's not the free version, but the pay-for one. I have been using it to run winxp on my gentoo laptop. I chose the pay-for version because I use it to develop stuff for clients, so I need support -- mainly so I can say I have it, I find the forum support usually is quicker to resolve most problems anyway.

So I have not yet built a gentoo system to run under vmware, but its on my list. Any tidbits of experience you can share that might port to other virtual environments would be most welcome.

Well, my employer's cloud is based on VMware. But I haven't distilled the kernel .config required for it.

Here are some (hopefully) helpful pointers, based on my experience:

Gentoo x86 minimal CD's from 1Q of this year does not support PV-SCSI; it simply does not 'see' any hard disk. The amd64 minimal supports PV-SCSI, though. (It might've changed, I haven't tested yet).

Configure your kernel for VMware PV-SCSI (see above point)

Do a research on e1000 vs VMXNET; some people say that the former is faster, while others say the latter is faster. Do not compile them both; you'll end up with e1000 instead. I personally am very satisfied with network performance using e1000

No need for initrd. I have about 5 VMs using Gentoo *without* initramfs support

You might want to compile the VMware Tools (although, honestly, I do not yet know how)

I probably would need initramfs (newer form of initrd) because my gentoo systems boot directly to a lvm logical volume.

Sometimes, especially on laptops, I boot from a usb stick, and the drive in the laptop is fully encrypted whole-disk, no partitions, no partition table, and lvm sits on the decrypted device, and my os sits on a logical volume under lvm control. Once the system is booted, I remove the usb stick.

So either way, I would need an initramfs to make this work.

If, on the other hand, I was working on a physical disk that was already encrypted, then I would still want lvm on the root filesystem so I could use snapshots when I was backing it up with my backup server, which runs every night to back up all the machines on my network.

I still haven't gotten to that. My world is getting weird, but in a very good way. I did setup a new seed for source that hasn't hit portage yet. I've just uploaded .configs for 2.6.39.4 in both x86 and x86_64 flavors. Enjoy!