Okay, here's the question. At the end of TLJ, exactly how many people were left on the Millenium Falcon, and exactly who were they? All I can say for sure is that I counted 12 in the last shot (plus a Porg, plus the droids), but it seems like there have to be more. It seems like it should be easy to find the answer, but I have had SO much trouble... lots of different conflicting opinions everywhere... and I really need to figure this out for the setting of the fic. Thoughts? Ideas?

It doesn’t concern only TLJ but I don’t know where to put it. They counted how many times the force is mentioned in the movies. The result is surprising because the movie that mentions it the most is the one that has no force sensitive character - one could be seen as an untrained one though and he is the one mentioning it the most.

Rewatching TLJ yet AGAIN over Easter, something occurred to me.Both Rose and Finn had an epiphany. Finn's of course, was going from a man prepared to run at the first sign of trouble into one prepared to sacrifice himself for others. Rose meanwhile, started off the movie as a bit of a fanatic who was tasering anyone thinking of jumping ship (understandable considering the circumstances) to someone who truly understood the importance of life.Their story is one of love and learning to atone for your mistakes. Kylo and Rey haven't learned this yet. Hopefully in RotS, they will.

I want antis to realise that JJ is not going to unpick everything Rian did. It was JJ who started Reylo, after all. And although the recent Darth Vader comic gave me the creeps.....I wonder if it's intention all along was to show how different Ben is to Vader. Vader rejected love, because he had lost the love of his life and wanted nothing to do with another person offering it, in addition he'd replaced love with power.Ben craves love, now he has power and it doesn't take away that need.

@motherofpearl1 wrote:I want antis to realise that JJ is not going to unpick everything Rian did. It was JJ who started Reylo, after all. And although the recent Darth Vader comic gave me the creeps.....I wonder if it's intention all along was to show how different Ben is to Vader. Vader rejected love, because he had lost the love of his life and wanted nothing to do with another person offering it, in addition he'd replaced love with power.Ben craves love, now he has power and it doesn't take away that need.

I actually like the hand touch in the gif better than what we got in the movie. In the gif Rey is actually holding his hand. In the movie they only pressed their hands together. I always wished the movie showed them actually holding hands.

I think I remember reading that they didn't use that shot because when they viewed it it looked instead like they were shaking hands. (All those people who insist they are only platonic business partners would have had a field day with that. )

@melismatic wrote:I think I remember reading that they didn't use that shot because when they viewed it it looked instead like they were shaking hands. (All those people who insist they are only platonic business partners would have had a field day with that. )

It's because they don't like the idea of Kylo as the last Skywalker. I think a lot of old time fans see the OT characters throughout the sugar coating of time. If you go back and watch them again, it's amazing what complex characters they were. Luke, the idealist with a temper. Leia, an almost fanatical revolutionary. Han, whose priority was himself.I remember in the novelization of RotJ, at the end after almost killing his own father, Luke realised what he hated was not Vader or Palpatine but the darkness in them. And in himself.Shades of grey, not whiter than white. Han would always be at heart a pirate. Leia would always put the greater good first. And deep inside, Luke was still afraid of the darkness....in himself as well as others.