Re: Steelers run defense needs help but a nose tackle might not be the answer

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Originally Posted by jb500ex

-3.4. That's top 10. Yes he does a great job

Do you want me to source PFF again? I mean, you did, right? In fact, let's do that.

7. Lawrence Timmons, Pittsburgh Steelers (+43.4)

Over the past five years Timmons has built his reputation as a pass rusher in the Steelers’ 3-4 defense. His 118 overall pressures, as well as his 23 sacks are by a comfortable margin the most for players playing inside linebacker over the past five years.

By far his best season came in 2010 when the Steelers made it to the Super Bowl. In that season his Run Stop Percentage of 12.3% topped the league at the position. He has yet to show that excellent play since that season which has prevented him from being mentioned among the best in the league.

-- Please, what's your response to this? I don't want to hear a bullshit, dance around the question answer. You sourced PFF, so did I. Maybe, just maybe, playing with a rookie in the interior had something to with that. Once again, lack of football knowledge is astounding.

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Re: Steelers run defense needs help but a nose tackle might not be the answer

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Originally Posted by Riddle_Of_Steel

First off, you do not have to always counter a 3-wide offense with a nickel package. This isn't Madden.

That's why I said "how often". You would probably want to enter into your nickle package anywhere from 60-80% of the time

Second, There was an observable dropoff from even Hampton's poorest 2012 performance to McClendon as Football Outsiders points out.

I use my own set of eyes to form opinions on players. I thought he played decent enough to not need to be replaced ASAP.

Football Outsiders calls nose tackle the Steelers’ greatest position of need, based on McLendon’s average tackle following a gain of 3.0 yards, the worst of any starting tackle in a 3-4 defense.

See SteelersCanada's post regarding it. I'm not sure that stat even really means all that much. A NT isn't generally getting a lot of tackeles, because, as you know, the NT main responsibility is to take up space and consume blockers.

Re: Steelers run defense needs help but a nose tackle might not be the answer

Big Snack use to occupy the center and the guard on a regular bases. That makes a huge difference in stopping the run when the inside linebacker has no barrier to the running back. And it top it off, the greatest 3-4 defensive lineman ever was on his right side.

With that being said, it doesnt matter as much in todays Arena Football League. The Seahawks put a nice blueprint on what the defense needs to do to stop today's offenses. And thats 3 out of 4 of your secondary need to be studs. So, I believe the Steelers need to draft a shutdown corner and a safety as Troy comes towards the end of his career. I hope Shark can be the next star, that would be huge for the Steelers next year and be a huge difference maker.

Re: Steelers run defense needs help but a nose tackle might not be the answer

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Originally Posted by SteelersCanada

Do you want me to source PFF again? I mean, you did, right? In fact, let's do that.

7. Lawrence Timmons, Pittsburgh Steelers (+43.4)

Over the past five years Timmons has built his reputation as a pass rusher in the Steelers’ 3-4 defense. His 118 overall pressures, as well as his 23 sacks are by a comfortable margin the most for players playing inside linebacker over the past five years.

By far his best season came in 2010 when the Steelers made it to the Super Bowl. In that season his Run Stop Percentage of 12.3% topped the league at the position. He has yet to show that excellent play since that season which has prevented him from being mentioned among the best in the league.

-- Please, what's your response to this? I don't want to hear a bullshit, dance around the question answer. You sourced PFF, so did I. Maybe, just maybe, playing with a rookie in the interior had something to with that. Once again, lack of football knowledge is astounding.

hope you're not expecting a real answer from that ass clown!

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Re: Steelers run defense needs help but a nose tackle might not be the answer

i think linebacker is the problem. we had 2 rookies starting (williams and jones), hopefully that gets better with williams progressing or spence taking his place

space eating DL is all fine and dandy but without the playmakers at LB in a 3-4, the defense won't get it done. same goes for our secondary, they aren't as bad as people think. the problem is lack of a pass rush. we need linebackers who can make plays besides timmons, plain and simple

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