No, no, no..it's utterly logical that if we were staying in the EU we would get these international investments over Germany, because that's what has happened 100% of the time for the past 4 decades hasn't it.

Has it ever crossed remainers minds that if we had just got on with leaving and attached the proviso that the EU won't be getting ANYTHING from us without a free-trade deal coming the other way, that we might have seen a lot more investment from foreign companies by now...because they'd actually have a scooby about what the plan is and what might happen next? It is precisely the actions of the 'Remainer' politicians that is paralysing this country at present...and they would have been happy to continue with the state of paralysis indefinitely. They have had to be dragged kicking and screaming to face the voters.

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 09:35 - Nov 14 by Kerouac

No, no, no..it's utterly logical that if we were staying in the EU we would get these international investments over Germany, because that's what has happened 100% of the time for the past 4 decades hasn't it.

Has it ever crossed remainers minds that if we had just got on with leaving and attached the proviso that the EU won't be getting ANYTHING from us without a free-trade deal coming the other way, that we might have seen a lot more investment from foreign companies by now...because they'd actually have a scooby about what the plan is and what might happen next? It is precisely the actions of the 'Remainer' politicians that is paralysing this country at present...and they would have been happy to continue with the state of paralysis indefinitely. They have had to be dragged kicking and screaming to face the voters.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 09:57 - Nov 14 with 959 views

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:40 - Nov 13 by Glyn1

We were the favourite to get this.

Gutting on so many levels, employment in the factory, suppliers, links to the universities.

Please remind me again what actual, definite economic benefits we're going to get from Brexit.

Nothing is definite, Glyn1, either for the good or bad. Yes we can negotiate our own trade deals but we have to rely on some very unreliable and selfish people to get that done. Everybody can have their own opinion but in the end the future results are a prediction/guess and in reality, nobody knows. An extreme brexiteer will find some murky conspiracy for Musk's decision (maybe even claim he has a grudge against the UK after that caving incident) and an extreme remainer will blame everything on voting leave. People didn't vote leave just for economic reasons though, there's more to it. I have said it before but if the remain campaign had been less project fear and more honesty, more explaining the benefits, the changes we'd face and the predicted risks (rather than calling them certainties) it may well have swung the result. Cameron and Osborne carry that can and the rest of us have to pay the ensuing bill. Only time will tell if it is for the better or the worst and people do love to make a meal of things. I mean, take voting tory, it's been called mad or insane. All those years of tory austerity and tory cuts but more recently I've seen posts criticisng them for increasing (or promising to) spending and for the rising debt and deficit, whichever way the barometer swings some people will always be bad and wrong. Some people though think Corbyn is brilliant for saying he'll spend even more than the tories are promising, we can't have it both ways,can we? How can vastly increasing the debt and deficit be a good thing if Corbyn does it but bad if Bojo does it? I think that countdown has stopped, or is close to stopping. This country is as close to mob rule as to democracy and they who control the mob.....

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 09:35 - Nov 14 by Kerouac

No, no, no..it's utterly logical that if we were staying in the EU we would get these international investments over Germany, because that's what has happened 100% of the time for the past 4 decades hasn't it.

Has it ever crossed remainers minds that if we had just got on with leaving and attached the proviso that the EU won't be getting ANYTHING from us without a free-trade deal coming the other way, that we might have seen a lot more investment from foreign companies by now...because they'd actually have a scooby about what the plan is and what might happen next? It is precisely the actions of the 'Remainer' politicians that is paralysing this country at present...and they would have been happy to continue with the state of paralysis indefinitely. They have had to be dragged kicking and screaming to face the voters.

That last bit is actually the 100% correct bit. Corbyn had been crying out for an election, until Bojo said OK lets have one then St Jez ran for the hills using no deal as an excuse. The oppo used every means to keep a GE off the table until they could no longer avoid it. The longer we went without leaving, the more likely we'd end up staying, that was the oft voiced idea. Just today Tusk said it's not too late to stop brexit, he's still hopeful. The EU definitely got succour from all our remain supporting MP's and their accolytes.

Back to Tusk, now he's leaving will his replacement be better? He's already making noises about the EU having more military capability...and sounding quite federalist with it,

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 10:17 - Nov 14 by Catullus

That last bit is actually the 100% correct bit. Corbyn had been crying out for an election, until Bojo said OK lets have one then St Jez ran for the hills using no deal as an excuse. The oppo used every means to keep a GE off the table until they could no longer avoid it. The longer we went without leaving, the more likely we'd end up staying, that was the oft voiced idea. Just today Tusk said it's not too late to stop brexit, he's still hopeful. The EU definitely got succour from all our remain supporting MP's and their accolytes.

Back to Tusk, now he's leaving will his replacement be better? He's already making noises about the EU having more military capability...and sounding quite federalist with it,

Not really. Avoiding no deal wasn't an excuse, it was critical and that aim was achieved. Besides, the Opposition are under no obligation to make life easy for the Government. It's a bit daft to criticise them for opposing. considering that's their role.

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 09:35 - Nov 14 by Kerouac

No, no, no..it's utterly logical that if we were staying in the EU we would get these international investments over Germany, because that's what has happened 100% of the time for the past 4 decades hasn't it.

Has it ever crossed remainers minds that if we had just got on with leaving and attached the proviso that the EU won't be getting ANYTHING from us without a free-trade deal coming the other way, that we might have seen a lot more investment from foreign companies by now...because they'd actually have a scooby about what the plan is and what might happen next? It is precisely the actions of the 'Remainer' politicians that is paralysing this country at present...and they would have been happy to continue with the state of paralysis indefinitely. They have had to be dragged kicking and screaming to face the voters.

Why would foreign companies want to invest in us after severing our frictionless trading arrangements with one of the worlds largest markets situated right on our door step?

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:00 - Nov 14 with 843 views

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 09:35 - Nov 14 by Kerouac

No, no, no..it's utterly logical that if we were staying in the EU we would get these international investments over Germany, because that's what has happened 100% of the time for the past 4 decades hasn't it.

Has it ever crossed remainers minds that if we had just got on with leaving and attached the proviso that the EU won't be getting ANYTHING from us without a free-trade deal coming the other way, that we might have seen a lot more investment from foreign companies by now...because they'd actually have a scooby about what the plan is and what might happen next? It is precisely the actions of the 'Remainer' politicians that is paralysing this country at present...and they would have been happy to continue with the state of paralysis indefinitely. They have had to be dragged kicking and screaming to face the voters.