Tuesday, November 15, 2016

My Best People Voted for Trump

That's the truth. The 'best' people on my friends list voted Trump.

When I hear the indignation, read the philosophical lamentations trying to grasp what happened and hear the dripping condensation in the voices of those that feel the 'uneducated' have just burdened them with a racist, misogynistic neanderthal...

I think of my personal friends and acquaintances (367 to be exact). And how the very best of them --

the ones that give the most money to charity, who give of themselves and their own time to charity, who adopt children and take in foster kids (of any color) and pregnant teen moms (of any color), the ones who volunteer the most, shuttle other people's kids the most and the ones you would trust your kids with without a second though --

239 comments:

I didn't vote for Trump, but some of the best people I know did. I hope so much that their optimism is as justified as their faith that he would win. The rbbs have lost their collective shit, and that is always a good sign.

I have voted in every election since 1966. I have only voted three times for the winning President.

I came to regret helping George W. win, twice.

I will probably come to regret helping Trump win this time.

However, I will never regret helping to defeat Hillary. She is the embodiment of all things wrong with this nation. The worst possible candidate. She would steal the title of 'Worst Presidents Ever' from the two current holders: Jimmy (the peanut) Carter, and the Obamanation.

(I also do not regret helping defeat those other two losers that ran against GWB.)

Great news whitie white racist Pepeistas great white grope supporters!Your legions are on the march, punching wimins in thair faces and some are even colored!

***Man punches woman in the face after argument about Trump at Boerum Hill bistro

...The guy paid his check and exited the restaurant at 6:50 pm, but then dashed back in again — nearly knocking over a kid on his way — and slugged one of the ladies in the face, according to the manager.***

...One man wore a "Make America Great Again" hat and the other a "Trump-Pence" sweatshirt.

She said the sweatshirted man grabbed her arm and told her, "Don't you worry, honey. President Trump says this is OK." He then punched her in the face and the arm. She fell, hit her head on the pavement and blacked out.***

***Hillsboro woman recalls racist attack: ‘I don’t deserve this’

...“I heard someone yell ‘Stupid n***** b****,'” she said. “Then they yelled ‘Are you scared? Are you scared now? Because you should be,’ and then they said ‘Now we got a president who finally feels how we feel.'”***

Enemous/Reliably Blathers Bilge, Nit, and their ilk, and above all, Hillary, are the biggest reason that Trump won. Furthermore, I am gleefully watching all those twelve-year-olds-in-adult-bodies "protestors" keep driving more nails in the Democrat coffin. It ought to be great when they make Keith Ellison DNC chair. Keith and Bernie are really going to add support from the middle. Yup.

LMAO. This reminds me of Bridget Jones: 'we need all our best, top people' This isn't a movie and Happy Days was a sitcom,Chachi. The sad thing is the red states (highest number of abortions and welfare recipients) don't even know they've been duped. They voted for more of the same but worse. Have they even heard of Breitbart? --you know things are bad when Glenn Beck is afraid.

I think Pamela Ramsey Taylor pretty much sums up the average Trump supporter.

They wanted "change" --- Nosferatu and Bannon don't care about jobs (Coal? lol) infrastructure and clean water. Oh- and Bannon hates Jews - wonder if Trump's SIL has gotten the memo on that with his latest security briefing?

If I had a child with chronic liver disease I would be terrified of deregulation.

Zelda,Although you & I share the same view of Trump, I did vote for him. Unlike you, I live in deeply divided FL. South part of the state is all transplanted Yankees and Hispanics (blue), north side is traditional Southern (red). So if we don't GOTV in the north, the state will go blue. Just couldn't afford to sit out and let Hillary win. Note the polls here run 7am-7pm EST for most of the state, but 7-7pm CST for the panhandle where I live (on CST). When the polls closed in the East, the polls were still open in the panhandle for another hour. When the polls closed in the east, Hillary was ahead, but by the time the panhandle vote came in Trump pulled out into the lead winning 29 EV. BL if we panhandle folks don't GOTV, the state will go blue. So I voted Trump, mostly against Hillary, but I voted.

I have been watching the various meltdowns going on daily here in 'Murica. As I laugh at the ongoing antics of the hate-filled left, I continued browsing various blogs. I found this lovely quote I wanted to share:

"..we have actually suffered under eight years of the actual consequences of having an actual hateful, arrogant, racist, incompetent motherfucker as president for 8 years."

rbb- all the above racists that supported Trump will continue to deny all the hate crimes that are happening because of their president select and will instead call people crazy when they mention them. So predictable.

BTW-how much is it going to cost the American taxpayers to support the Trump family enterprises? Trump Towers alone, ca-ching$$$$

Trump isn't taking a salary...how big of him. ^^^

Ivanka already using product placement on 60 Minutes with her cheesy jewelry, that didn't take long. They are using the POTUS as just another one of their money making scheme franchise. The November surprise!

The crazy continues Ivanka wears her own jewlry line and the dimbulbs go apeshit. Maybe she should have worn something from Chateu Walmart?And I will post the link tomorrow, but I confirmed my recolection tjat the Nazi Party USA endorsed Obama over McCain in 2008. Well, go figure The socialist workers party supported Barry. Hmmm, that would really blow their lil minds on the protest/riot lines.

“Now, if Trump does win, OK, it’s going to be a real opportunity for people like white nationalists, acting intelligently to build upon that,”...

“It doesn’t have to be anti, like the movement’s been for decades, so much as it has to be pro-white. It’s kinda hard to go and call us bigots, if we don’t go around and act like a bigot. That’s what the movement should contemplate. All right.”***

Hey racist Pepeista Trump alt-white racists!Your people are Trumping up everything getting ready for European Identity racists to start doing their racism everywhere! No Skittles here!

Oh look! Here's a good one!

***'This is Our Nation, Now Get the F--- Out': Anti-Muslim Note Left to Woman With Lupus in Fremont

...she was wearing a bandana over her head, not because she is religious, but because she is protecting her scalp from the sun because has lupus, an inflammatory autoimmune disease that can damage tissues and organs.***

Sorry Nate, you thinks wrong -- I wasn't a reluctant Trump voter or a lesser of two evils Trump voter. I wasn't torn or tormented. I didn't find this election season crass or worse than normal. Trump doesn't offend me even a tiny little bit. I have been on the Trump train from the beginning and also voted for him in the primary.

Your president fraud select has agreed to pay out 25 million for his fake fraudulent *university* --- what a scammer. Those poor people went bankrupt because of this hog and they won't even get half of what they paid into his fake school.

The democrats: the party of hate, the party of corruption, the party of racism, the party of lies and smears, the party that encourages and condones physical violence. They continue their sad, obnoxious, evil activities. Even here we get a daily dose of their putrid-ness.

There is never any need to read any of the crap. It is just a reflection of the writers vileness.

Havirwilde, I say Enemous/Reliably Blathers Bilge is like one of those dolls with a pull string in the back of the head. Pull the string and sounds come out. The doll, like Enemous/Reliably Blathers Bilge, has no brain at all. It performs a mechanical process, just like cutting and pasting.

Haverwilde, you voted for Trump so you condone vileness. There have been hundreds of hate crimes committed in the name of the dumpster since the election but you get upset when you have to read about what you voted for--hate.

But that's okay- beating people up while screaming that you voted for Trump is normal to middle aged racist white trump supporters.

What isn't okay: The cast of Hamilton politely asking the bigoted Pence to not be himself. Getting booed, also not okay! What a bunch of SNOWFLAKES.

OH- and don't think I have forgotten what VILE AWFUL things you have called Michelle, Barack and their daughters over the years--you're only fooling yourself.

Trump attacking Hamilton and SNL (again, he def. won't be able to handle ISIS), what a great distraction for the fraud who decided to settle for the first time in his life out of 4000 cases of fraud. 25 million -- it's driving him so crazy that he's been on twitter non-stop.

First time in history that a newly elected president had to settle court cases for fraud before entering the WH.

Ala, Trump actively questions a judge's competence on the basis of his race. He calls Mexican illegal immigrants "rapists and murders". He sexually assaulted women and bragged about it on tape. This should sow doubt in a reasonable person's mind. Why doesn't this concern you?

Haver, You can write it as many times as you want, however that doesn't make it true.

I'm not sure what Enemous/Reliably Blathers Bilge is TRYING to accomplish. I think what it ACTUALLY accomplishes is backlash that goes to create more support for the Trump camp. Nit isn't any more effective.They and all the "protestors" and "demonstrators" are gifts to the Trump camp because they don't realize their childishness is disgusting to everyone else.I hope they keep it up.

Calling out bigotry and hatred isn't childish or disgusting to normal people, Crabby.

-and don't worry, this is just the beginning. We were near Trump Towers and the protesters are continuing to exercise their rights, I love it.

First president in history to have to settle a case (one of 4000!) before entering the WH, why is this normal to you? You voted for a man that took life savings from people, as much as 40k - they will then get a few thousand back. Trump is a fraud and a criminal, the absolute worst and should be behind bars. You have been duped, dummy.

MAGA, racist racists! Here's the fully redacted transcription of your fellow racist Trump swallower advising an Uberer about his future in the land of the free:

***You [fword]' Arab [word for doing sex with your Mother], terrorist [fword] [felatio doer]. I don't care, bro, video. You're a loser. You don't even—from here, you [word for doing sex with your Mother]. [fword] loser. [fword] you and your family, you terrorist [word for doing sex with your Mother]. Video all you want. You're a loser. You're an Arab. You're a [fword] loser. Sand [word for people who live in the Middle East but can be vilely disrespected by adding the Nword in front of the word sand] . Exactly, video. What is that gonna do? What is that gonna do? Trump is president, [hole where poop comes from], so you can kiss your [conjugate fword] ' visa goodbye, scumbag. We'll deport you soon, don't worry, you [conjugate fword]' terrorist. Oh my god, I'm so scared. What'd ya, steal it? You [conjugate fword]' Arab [fword]. ***

There is great news from the MAGA storm front coming out of Texasland this week, Pepeistas!

A judge has blocked the big government, job killing, Democrat Party plantation, Obama Reid Pelosi, Kenyan Socialist scheme to pay people more money for their overtime work! Paying people more if they do extra work? What a crazy job killing idea that was, am I right?

Shame on you if you even wanted that job killing extra overtime money for doing extra work. Shame on you, you don’t deserve it, moocher.

Besides, think of the time you’ll save not having to do IRS on all those overtime Socialistical dollars you would have had to report for actually working more than 40 hours a week. Not to mention trying to find a place to store all those things you might have purchased using those Socialistical dollars, like shoes for your children, or food for Christmas dinner.

Nope, that just won’t fly in Trump's new America, and neither will you, because you are now liberated from the burden of overtime pay that might have gone towards a vacation or something Socialistic like that.

So just sit back and watch Makers make millions of new jobs with overtime pay they don’t have to give you and money you’re going to give them through tax cuts and be glad you’re helping MAGA!

Hey Pepeista toads, what makes you more proud about your blind fealty to the great white grope, that he's flip flopped on putting Sec. Clinton in jail, that he's doing a slow flip flop on climate change, or that he's disavowed your racist alt-white Pepe movement?

Betsy DeVos, crazed wacko religionist power hunger right wing extremist billionaire, is funding a right wing extremist think tank, The Acton Institute, which offers this to American youth:

MAGA!

***Bring back child labor: Work is a gift our kids can handle

...Whatever else you want to say about this, it’s an exciting life. You can talk about the dangers of coal mining or selling newspapers on the street. But let’s not pretend that danger is something that every young teen wants to avoid. If you doubt it, head over the stadium for the middle school football game in your local community, or have a look at the wrestling or gymnastic team’s antics at the gym.***

I judge politicians/political appointees by who supports them and who opposes them.Judging by the way the leftards are coming unglued, Trump must be making some GREAT picks.There will be some fantastic fireworks when we see Trump's Supreme Courts nominee in January!I imagine we can buy the ones the Democrats didn't use pretty cheap.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING ALa, Crabby, Foxy, Tater, Ricvid! The season of celebration and thanksgiving began with the defeat of the corrupt crooked witch. It continues now as we approach the Holy Season of Christmas. The rejoicing and thanksgiving this year has so far been better than any time in the last couple of decades.Even the humor of watching the 'butthurts' here, has its positive side.

Obama had a fake university that scammed people out of millions of dollars.

Obama had 4000 lawsuits.

Obama put small business owners out of business with endless scams.

Obama had a fake charity.

Obama raised money for vets and bought paintings instead of donating the money.

If Obama had an autistic son.

Obama didn't pay his taxes.

Obama never completed a sentence and could barely read.

Obama said Mexicans were rapists.

Michelle had been a nude centerfold model.

Obama picked a VP that wanted conversion therapy for homosexuals.

Obama picked a VP that wanted HIV funding cut off.

Obama's VP was homosexual.

Obama came unhinged on twitter 24/7

Chelsea Clinton had gone over to Russia to help them steal the election for her mother.

Obama was BF with Putin.

Republicans had been hacked by Russians but the FBI ignored it.

Obama and his family would cost us BILLIONS to protect him.

Now imagine if Donald Trump was ahead of Hillary by almost THREE MILLION VOTES..we know what the gigantic fraud baby would be doing right now--he would be on twitter whining.

-oh, one more- if Obama and his kids had come out with a Thanksgiving message to America before he was even in the WH- Trump is really an arrogant uppity hog, and again- he can barely read. This is going to be a painful 4 years.

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Hillary ahead by 3 million votes. Trump said he would not have conceded and she shouldn't have either. Russia did everything they could to get Trump elected, if any of you had any reasoning or logic you might be concerned. Duped again.

Here's a little story about real Americans defending a nice lady against a racist, you know, like your typical alt-whitie, in store, just buying things!

***Picture captures person accosting woman wearing hijab at Smith’s

...“I went down the aisle to go get sodas and then all of a sudden I hear somebody starting to yell at her,” he recalls, “And they’re saying things like ‘Get out of our country, you don’t belong here, you’re a terrorist!'”

At that point, Lopez says, practically everyone in the store stopped what they were doing and ran to the defense of the woman in hijab.***

Just near Trump Towers, so glad to see there are some normal Americans out there that seem to be afraid of fascism.

How did Trump get more votes in Wisconsin than actual votes???

Democrats are idiots if they allow yet another election to be stolen. I guess since you're all 'armed to the teeth' then it might get ugly if Hillary is allowed to win the election that she actually won, by over 3 million votes.

Gigantic racist baby could be impeached but then we get the calm liar, Pence.

Well just looky here, a Homasexul hating Dirty Daddy Don swallower, and a yuge Dirty Don suport, who can typewrite on a computer machine with Jew hate and homasexul hate, in the same typewrite and to a homasexul Jew also too!

MAGA!

Here's a bit of what your fellow Pepeista Toad wrote:

***...I love Donald Trump because he is anti-semitic and anti-islamic. He is also xenophobic.

Crabby,See what happens you talk to this/these incontinent assholes? They take it as permission to spray its fecal matter all over the comments.You can't read it, it's not even worth anything as fertilizer. It just hides the intelligent comments.

wilde, if cutting and pasting the fecal your fellow racist Trump supporting Pepeist toad racists are spraying, now all over the world, upsets you so, just ask them to stop spraying racist Trump support all over the world.

"He said, 'You guys can move if you want. Go back to Tokyo,'" recalled Jen. "And from there it just escalated. He used a lot of misogynistic slurs.... He called us bitches, sluts, cunt-whores, cunts." ***

Trump wants people that exercise their rights under our constitution to be put in jail for a year or kicked out. Wow, so, Melenia or KellyAnne can't take his phone away?

Ya'll pretend to want the constitution upheld, so where is your outrage?

Why didn't the security or police show up at Michael's when the crazy racist white woman started screaming across the store "like an animal" -- we all know if she wasn't white she would have been tasered or shot.

Watching reruns of election night coverage is still hilarious. I laugh out loud as Liberals CRY and VENT and SPUTTER as they watch the Deplorables take back their country. Oh, what a great day for America!

Last night, I enjoyed our outgoing ManChild President strutting around the stage making fun of Trump's promise to keep Carrier in the good ole USA, saying "Does he think there is a magic wand?" Har har... and then Trump's gracious speech where he announced that Carrier is staying! He must HAVE a magic wand!

And the train of wimps who never thought Trump could be elected walking hat in hand into Trump tower to beg for a crumb after trashing him on the campaign trail? Awesome! Romney and Ryan kissing his ass...pure joy.

Oh, and the way he played the Liberal media to say ok, ok, off the record! Yes! while they thought they'd ambush him, only to find themselves being told what a bunch of sniveling cowards they are, and not being able to do anything but hear the truth! Ahhh...

And then to watch the total meltdown, and Trump appoints expert after expert, I mean people who actually understand their fields, to cabinet positions. The HORROR! Jeff Sessions! Nice... Wait! Watch the heads explode!

It is a great time to be an American.

Trolls, I enjoy reading your desperate rants, but I especially love your tears. I save them, and have them with my morning coffee. Thank you! for daily posting your neutered cut and paste! I laugh and laugh as I picture you crying at your altar before your Fidel poster, safe from the elements in your Mommie's basement room.

It is a truly wonderful surprise I was ready for a long depressing few years, both personal and financial. We are not out of the woods yet, but at least we have a leader who will not take us further into a socialist/fascist nightmare future.

Trump continues to pick more billionaire racist cronies. You wanted "change" FOXY, yer gonna get it. You didn't answer my question about the corporate owned/controlled media..how is it liberal?-- They handed you the president select after all. Although, he's still behind by about 3 million votes, no mandate for the dumpster.

Kellyanne continues to lie to the corporate right wing media all day long and they let her. Her and Melinia share stylists.

Nate said...Just remember that Clinton is currently 2.5M votes ahead of Trump. You are a minority and a shrinking one at that. Progress is inexorable and you will be on the losing side of history.

Lessee...

Electoral VotesTrump 306Klinton 232

SenateRepubs 52Donks 48

HouseRepubs 238Donks 194

GovernorsRepubs 33Donks 15

(CNSNews.com) – Republicans added to their historic 2014 gains in the nation’s state legislatures with the addition of five state House chambers and two state Senate chambers in last week’s election, while Democratic control was reduced to levels not seen since the Civil War.

Republicans are now in control of a record 67 (68 percent) of the 98 partisan state legislative chambers in the nation, more than twice the number (31) in which Democrats have a majority, according to the bipartisan National Conference of State Legislatures (NCSL).

Get that Nate? Republicans have not controlled this many State legislatures SINCE THE CIVIL WAR! That, by the way, is when the Republicans FREED THE SLAVES, much to the dismay of the always racist Democrat Party.

Hey Pepeista Dirty Daddy Don racist supporters, need more evidence your gop has been and is nothing more than a mindless bucket of spit? You do? Well, today's your lucky day!

Your precious gop, after have 6 years, that what I said, 6 years, to come up with a plan, any plan, to replace the ACA, is now rumored to be contemplating, wait for it, wait...repeal and delay! Yep, they truly are ball-less stump suckers who have no idea what they're doing or how to even do what they've promised they'd do.

A Muslim woman was attacked and harassed by three men who called her a terrorist and repeatedly shouted "Donald Trump!" at her on the subway yesterday.

Police say the incident happened around 10 p.m. on Wednesday, when the 18-year-old victim

...The men then followed the unnamed victim onto the train, where they continued yelling Trump's name and called her a "fucking terrorist." They allegedly screamed other xenophobic things as well, including, "get the hell out of the country," and "you don’t belong here." Police say they ripped her purse off her shoulder, breaking the strap, then tried to remove her Hijab off of her head. ***

I must admit I'm partial to the Millennium brand. You can get those at the Klinton Coronation on YouTube. I also like the aged variety. MSLSD and KNN have some of the old crusty variety. Kris thrill up my leg Matthews is a good brand. If you like the kreepy kind, though, you can't beat the blogs like ALa's. There, they can vent and threaten, safe in their mommy's basement room. That's where their real flavor develops.

Good Morning racist Pepeisata Dirty Daddy racist supporters and what a good morning it is as your racist clubs are reporting an increase in membership now that your great white grope will soon be leader of the free world!

***Ku Klux Klan supporters give Nazi salute at North Carolina rally in support of Donald Trump

...Amanda Barker, part of the husband and wife team that runs the KKK’s North Carolina chapter, said members wanted to be part of Mr Trump’s win.

“I thought when Trump was elected the membership would drop because the white people got a white president,” she said. “But that wasn’t the case.

“People are waking up, thinking ‘I’m not hiding away, I can be proud to be white once more.”

She said they planned to hold a cross burning ceremony in the evening if the wind died down...***

I'm laughing at our nasty POTUS select, and you, Crabby- it'll only cost 5 million a day to have the dumpster in the WH, along with his homely kids. The dumpster is so thin skinned that he can't take an actor making fun of him!! The dumpster ran away from Vietnam because he is a chicken hawk. Now he has hired Ben Carson, who has admitted that he knows nothing about running anything connected with government!! BC only ran for president to up his speaking fees! Now we're stuck with another loser.

Foxy -- Interestingly enough, Repubs have lost the popular vote in nationwide votes for the house too. It seems like the primary way Repubs win political power is by denying the will of the people via the electoral college, gerrymandering and voter suppression. The tyranny of the minority is real.

I find it a little sad how much hatred you have for your fellow Americans. Is this new, or just new to me?

^^^It's the only way repubs can win. Democrats want everyone to have the right and chance to vote because we can win elections honestly (Hillary ahead by millions) -- this isn't the case of the "Tricky Dicky" party.

Looks like one of your own got hissef a wee bit to trumpy before his KKK Trump victory parade the other day and just stabbed a racist KKK Trump supporting brother in robes. What a shame, he probly hadta miss da hole paraid.

*** California KKK leader arrested in stabbing in North Carolina just before Trump victory parade

...many Klan members had traveled to North Carolina to participate in the pro-Trump rally. ***

Let's just chat about how your racist great white grope supporters are such Aholes! Ya know, Aholes, like you Aholes that swallowed the pizzagate Aholie lie and your fellow Ahole who went there with a gun because your Ahole media pushed an Ahole lie about, well, you know. What a bunch of Aholes the alt-white lunatic fringe is, really, A H O L E S.

To the other lefties who post on this blog -- lets stop with the name calling. No matter what Trump means to you and no matter how repulsive his behavior may be, he is now president-elect and we demean the office and ourselves by using insults rather than rational arguments to undermine his agenda.

Nit, for your information I hope Reliably Blathers Bilge/Enemous continues as he has until now. I think Trump owes much of his success to clowns like that and to the "demonstrators" and "protestors" and other twelve-year-olds-in-adult-bodies.Frankly, based on what you have come up with before, I think "rational arguments to undermine his agenda" will be preaching to the dim wit choir and convince no one else.

Crabby: "clowns/twelve-year-olds-in-adult-bodies." - this is what you voted in crabby. I would say your guy owes his "success" to the tea party that delivered him to you by hijacking the republican party. - that and ripping of Americans for decades, just like his racist father.

Nate, I would say we on the Left have been incredibly kind and generous compared to what has been posted in the past in regard to Obama and the Clintons. *see Ala's pic of Obama being the Anti-Christ as just one example of hundreds.

Dems going high because righties go so incredibly low isn't working. Time is running out on the environment so we can't really afford to go backward for 4 or God forbid 8 yrs. It's strange to me that one of the women on this blog is married to a doctor but they don't believe in science? - or women's rights..such hatred of women by women is beyond strange.

Very happy over Donald Trump’s selection of Scott Pruitt for EPA director. He will pull the plug on that cesspool of boobs bent on gutting the coal industry, the oil industry, the auto industry and American farming. Cows can now fart in peace.

Foxy doesn't know that when minimum wage is increased it stimulates the economy, duh, he still believes in trickle down.

Obama already saved the auto industry - and COAL - LOL - is not coming back. People left Ireland because it was dying - what year are you living in FOXY? You need to get out of your basement more often and turn off fake news. American farmers get subsidized by the government, or didn't Rush tell you that?

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40% of you believe President-elect Grabembythepussy won the popular vote. He didn't, of course. He's on track to lose it by 2,500,000 votes. You believe that's a mandate!

39% of you idiots believe the stock market when down during the Obama Administration. Another 19% of you are not sure. It didn't, of course. It more than doubled.

Here's a doozy! 67%, 67%! of you jackhole asshat racist Dirty Daddy swallowers believe unemployment went up during the Obama administration!Wrong again, Mr. Grabembythepussy supporters! It, of course, was cut from it's high of about 10% down to 4.6%

46% of you idiots believe there might be something to that alt-white pizzagate lie. (____ ___ _______ _ ___)

So let's recap!

A yuge number of your numbers are outright downright altright no doubt in anyone's mind, idiots that are stupid.

I agree, Trump needs to be a one term president. I wouldn't be surprised if the Republican congress impeaches him though. They may decide that Pence will be easier to work with and try to remove Trump the liability. I don't think the problem with the left is that we "went high" which like all generalizations is untrue in many circumstances. See the comments on this blog for many examples of people resorting to insults and derogatory language instead of rational argument. Seriously, using "white man" as a derogatory term won't help us build a more inclusive nation. Instead it will simply advocates excluding a different group and will continue to inspire reactionaries.

I think the first step is that we need to stop focusing on identity politics. Advocating advantage for those that look disadvantaged makes less sense than for those that actually are disadvantaged. History has proved that it is nearly as divisive as the discriminatory policies that proceeded them. The left needs to refocus on economic issues and cater to the middle class that the Republicans seem all to happy to want to gut.

The second step we need to mobilize voting for elections other than presidential ones. Those that control the ballet and voting rules control the outcome. The 2020 census is coming soon and the left needs to own these state legislatures to make sure that gerrymandering doesn't screw us out of the house again. The only way we can implement any sort of progressive policy is to show up for every election and control the local, state and federal governments.

How true Foxy!Nit, Reliably Blathers Bilge/Enemous and the rest of the twelve-year-olds-in-adult-bodies: PLEASE KEEP IT UP!!!!You are getting more votes for Trump and his successors than anything else imaginable! And, to everyone else's glee, you are too stupid to realize it!

Well, Crabby, that was not exactly what I had in mind. Nate, who has been on this site for at least 10 years, has proposed an end to the insults and name calling. He did it once several posts up, and rbb shot him down. He's doing it again, and I agree with Nate. I'd like to see real discourse.

Nate and I disagree on almost everything, but I know Nate to be someone who is interested in an honest discourse. What I'd like to know is if anyone else on this site would like that. If not, I'll leave again. I really don't need to post my opinions on a political site, and I don't need to be flamed for having an opinion.

rbb has never had an honest discussion on this thread as long as I have been on, but maybe he can be drawn into a discussion.

That is Foxy wisdom. My usual conversations tend toward the inoffensive, but here the idiocy of rbb and anon brings out the worst in me. I had to go back to read Nate's comment because I quit reading his quite a while back when I quit reading rbb's and anons.

I still disagree with him also, but it was civil.

I understand the anger on the left. In any regime change those with a vested interest in the old are upset with the new. I for one, was extremely upset with the last regime change, as Obama moved away from the 'rule of law' to the 'rule of dictate.' As well as the dramatic shift to the left and the rise of 'Racism-based' policy decisions.

I am cautiously optimistic about the Trump regime. However, I learned my lesson in the disasters of the Bush years. (Although those disasters pale in comparison to the Obama years.)

I believe it is healthy for the pendulum to swing back, and some of the strongest opponents of the old will now be in control of the agencies they opposed. It puts into motion the paradigm of Thesis, Antithesis (hopefully ending in a constructive) Synthesis.

If we could ban one thing would be the bantering of the term Fascism.Yes there is an element of Fascism in some populist movements. But,..there is also an element of Fascism in most socialist movements. And...there is an element of Fascism in many governments where the media and big business join in a collusion to control the outcome of elections.Those comparisons destroy communications. As such they are less than useless, but I suspect that is the main purpose of using them.

Nate- I wasn't only referring to the people on this blog when I said we go high, they go low. Trump started every speech on the campaign trail with "Crooked Hillary" - when she had so much to use against him she said nothing, everyday because that is what Democrats do. HRC is ahead by almost 3 million votes so I'm well aware of what would be said if Trump had won the popular vote...the ppl on this blog have said some pretty nasty things about Bill, Hillary and the perfect Obama family with zero scandals. - we also know that BO would never have stood a chance as a black man with a resume like Trumps.

I agree with what you said--but Hillary did talk about the middle class and jobs, everyday--she had a plan. Trump came out and lied everyday, especially telling those poor people in West VA. that he would bring back coal. Now he has appointed Exxon to run the EPA, there isn't much hope, from any of his appointments, every one has a conflict of interest.

I'm not quite sure what Crabby is talking about (as usual) with the votes- Hillary is ahead by almost 3 MILLION votes, again-- we all know what DT would be doing if he were ahead, he would be kicking and screaming. -and why the reference to twelve year olds?, I had a few of them in my house and none have behaved like a Trump and he's in his seventies.

Until we find a way to get republics to play fair and stop with the disenfranchising then we can't win. Why else would they be against the recounts?

"I am cautiously optimistic about the Trump regime. However, I learned my lesson in the disasters of the Bush years. (Although those disasters pale in comparison to the Obama years.)" -- says Haverwilde...if the right on this blog can't acknowledge and accept the FACT that Obama has created more jobs than any president and saved the U.S. after the worst administration and the worst attack in history (thanks Bush) then again, not much hope on having thoughtful discussions here. I'm guessing he also believes in pizzagate.

It's also impossible to not call Trump and his appointments, particularly Bannon, racist and fascist.

You all do remember that you perpetuated the myth of Obama being a Muslim, for years...awfully thin skinned now but sure, after 8 years of attacking Obama and the Clintons I will now be civil to Trump...?

Michael Moore predicted that Trump would "win" - Moore is also predicting that something will happen to prevent him from being in the WH..fingers & ankles crossed....although:

Pence and his hatred of women and "conversion therapy" and camps isn't very comforting in place of DT...

BTW- over half of the country did not want Trump, he doesn't have a mandate but I'll do my best to give him the same "chance" that he gave Obama.

I was over at Cold Fury and read about John Glenn and Buzz Aldrin. There was this From Steyn:"Our heroes are old and stooped and wizened, but they are the only giants we have. Today, when we talk about Americans boldly going where no man has gone before, we mean the ladies’ bathroom. Progress."

To which Cold Fury added this: "How we grew so impoverished, in spirit as well as other ways, is simple: Progressivism. It sucked the juice out of everything it touched, beginning with Progressivists themselves, as grim and desiccated a bunch of killjoys as you’ll ever see anywhere. But the good news is, they were only able to stap our vitals because we allowed them to; as Steyn himself always says, decline is a choice. And this time around America chose differently. Hopefully, we’re all done with that nonsense now, at least for a while."

If you prefer civility, you have to quit reading or commenting Reliably Blathers Bilge/Enemous because it is not possible to have a rational discussion with a head case.I agree that Nit is not as bad, but I have caught him too many times to take him seriously.I will try letting the rest of you handle those two going forward.

If we counted unemployment like they did in 1929, we would have an unemployment rate worse than the Great Depression. All the while going into debt such that we have more than doubled the national debt in 8 years.

Obama is the worst President in my lifetime. Which goes back a ways to include Nixon, and Carter.

I have often wondered why people like anon and rbb bother to spend their time at a Conservative site. I know I don't have any desire to go to a Liberal site. My only conclusion is they are dedicated to destroying the site, not having any constructive dialogue. My little experiment seems to bear that out. Neither of them have any interest in actually talking about stuff. Nate is different. He is a stone cold Liberal, but he is also a human being with a heart. Can't say the same for rbb or the anon de jour.

Obama was a disaster as a President. Under his watch, the economy cratered and never recovered. The number of Americans who are no longer in the workforce is higher than at any time since the Great Depression. Obama managed, with the complicit media, to lower the unemployment rate with parlor tricks. We just don't count those who have exhausted unemployment benefits as jobless, and viola! low unemployment rate.

But the American people have spoken. There will be a new President, and his name is Donald Trump, and no amount of hissy fits, teddy bear hugs, safe rooms, diaper displays is gonna change that.

The Left can say Hillary won the popular vote, but that is irrelevant. What is relevant is the Republican Party now controls 67 (68 percent) of the 98 partisan state legislative chambers in the nation. That's the bench, folks, where future leaders come from. All the Dems can come up with now is more old, white men like Joe Biden, or shrill women like Liz Warren and Hillary.

So, like Haverwilde, I'll once again stop reading anything rbb or anon de jour write. I may read nate's stuff, if it's not too offensive.

I don't know where the hell Reliably Blathers Bilge/Enemous gets the horseshit it throws. I used to go the Havirwilde route and counter with correct information, but then decided to stop doing their homework for them because it NEVER soaks in.Foxy Wizard hit the nail squarely on the head, particularly with "My only conclusion is they are dedicated to destroying the site, not having any constructive dialogue."I think Foxy may have misspoke when he said "if it's not too offensive". To me, information can't be "offensive" if it is true even if I don't like it. It is certainly "offensive" if it is an out right lie or seriously misleading or an illogical conclusion or trivial.

Quotable quote: “I didn’t think that Trump’s flaws, and they were numerous, were in what we call in philology the indicative mood. They were subjunctive; they were what he might do in office because he hadn’t held office when in Hillary’s [case] they were indicative. She had created a crime syndicate. There was no doubt about it. Pay to play bribery. She had lied to the FBI, 27 times said she didn’t know what was going on. She couldn’t open her mouth about the email servers without lying. And so she was really a criminal. And I thought that’s indicative.”

One more: “Trump had all the right enemies. All the people you don’t like, don’t like Trump.”

"And this time around America chose differently. Hopefully, we’re all done with that nonsense now, at least for a while."

"Nonsense" being anyone that isn't white.

And don't crow too loudly, IT isn't in the WH yet.

We didn't "chose" him - Hillary is ahead by about 3 million votes, over half the country DID NOT want Trump, no mandate.

Havers -- you chose Trump because your're threatened by a transgender in a bathroom? You do realize that they've been there beside you all along, right...? -and you're more afraid of this than Exxon running the EPA or AMWAY/pyramid scheme lady doing away with our public schools?

I'm raising my sons to not be homophobic, afraid of transgenders, women with brains and just people in general -- so the opposite of ya'll.

Foxy -- "All the Dems can come up with now is more old, white men like Joe Biden, or shrill women like Liz Warren and Hillary."

^^^Does everyone here see what Foxy just did when describing women?

Crabby-- you don't have a leg to stand on when talking about Hillary's flaws or that she's lying, or yawn, emails. Please, you just chose the biggest con man in history who had the help of Russia to steal the WH.

You are asking that people behave on this blog when this is what you voted for:

There was a time when threats against journalists, like threats of any sort of political violence, were exceedingly rare. But in Trump's America, such threats are neither rare nor idle.

Trump, during the campaign, fantasized about Clinton and her judicial nominees being assassinated. He boasted that “I bring rage out” in people, and his violent rallies proved it. Since the election, Trump has falsely accused the media of inciting violence. At his speech in Ohio last week he denounced the “dishonest” media no fewer than six times.

He has also been encouraging Jones, leading publicist of the Comet-Clinton-pedophilia absurdity. Trump has praised Jones’s “amazing” reputation, called Jones after winning the presidency to thank him for his support, and has regularly parroted Jones’s conspiracy ideas.

Now we are beginning to see the consequences of the rage and paranoia Trump has encouraged: A disturbed man fires an assault weapon in a place where tots play ping-pong. The only “crime” of the owner, James Alefantis, was to be a Clinton supporter who had, the WikiLeaks hack exposed, discussed with Clinton aide John Podesta the possibility of hosting a Clinton fundraiser. If Trump were a different leader, he would declare that political violence is unacceptable in a free society.

-Dana Milbank-

^^thanks to Alex Jones and his twisted conspiracy theories the owner at Comet has been receiving death threats. #maga? - one of Jones' followers said this: I pray that someone comes to Comet pizza with automatic weapons and kills everyone inside..Trump supports this guy, this is how we MAGA?

Crabby-- your theory is that if the left protests the worst president in history that will then create " more new adult voters" -- ?? how does this work, exactly?btw, the children are very aware-and very afraid of Trump. They want to know why their new president is such a bully.

Hey Crabby, Did you see the Detroit News article regarding the voter fraud. In one little precinct, they had 50 voters on election day, and 300 of them voted for Hillary.

I guess the Democrats will just say it was the Russians that did it.

37 corrupt precincts in Detroit alone. More investigations to come. We can see why the Democrats don't want voter IDs in order to vote. It causes a major barrier for the poor, minority population from voting, Meaning: the dead voter, the illegal voter, the repeat voter, the fictitious voter, and the corrupt precinct worker ballot-box stuffer.

Some of Trump's best people voted for Trump, even gop criminal #734!(734 gop criminals? Doubt that? Just ask me.)

***BREAKING: Top Trump Advisor Indicted On 30 Charges, Major Scandal

Republican South Carolina State rep. Jim Merrill, who was considered to have an expanded role in the Trump administration and was a critical political ally to Trump, is now facing significant jail time.

...he is accused of accepting “what amounts to hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years to support Statehouse action but failed to report it, essentially making him a lawmaker and cash-accepting lobbyist at the same time.”

...Merrill was first hired as Trump’s advisor back in March of 2015 and has been very loyal to him since.***

I think it really is time to ignore rbb and anon. Their dogma is rigid and they're taking on the characteristics of scientologists trying to debunk Leah Remini.

As for the Russians hacking the DNC, I believe it. The Democrats were warned. Trump has now been warned. Someone in the federal government needs to take this seriously. We've had massive data breaches during the Obama administration with the personal information of millions stolen by the Russians and Chinese. Obama and the press never took it seriously and the reporting has been sparse.

Crabby, The leftards that post here are so totally inept. I have lots of friends who are left of center, and I can usually carry on an intelligent conversation with them even though we disagree.rbb and Anon are the moronic fringe of the leftist movement. You can almost see the drool hitting the keyboard as they type.Fortunately (for the health of my funny bone) the moronic fringe and the hysterical elite on the left, form a kind of sitcom that has me giggling like a kid frequently during the day.I can't wait for the next Trump cabinet appointment to see what new hilarious depth the left will dive.

"Over Obama's eight years, Democrats went from controlling 28 governor's mansions to 18; they went from controlling 25 state legislatures to 12; they went from controlling 60 Senate seats to 48; and from controlling 257 House seats to 194.

Ah, metaphors..very symbolic since you just voted for a deranged 70 yr. old child who isn't adult or president enough to read, listen and take daily briefings. I don't want to insult children but here are a few examples:

"giggling like a kid""I'm so ready for the adults to take over."" It DOES go right over the children's heads!"

Lock him up, Lock him up! Isn't that the chant that the bully encouraged his cult followers to say on the campaign trail? Well, Trump should be locked up for TREASON.

Also interesting is how you all were against Russia but now Russia is our friend. We all know that HRC and Obama would not get away with Putin stealing the election for them.

Can any of you think for yourselves? You don't have to blindly follow the cult leader.

..."Healthy Choice Fresh Mixers are designed with a distinct cooker to separate the starch and the sauce, helping to maintain the flavor and texture of both. Consumers prepare the rice or pasta fresh in the microwave, and mix it together with the sauce and meat to create a complete, healthful meal all in about five minutes," said Jess Sweley, director of Research & Development at ConAgra Foods.***

On the bright side, at least there will now be someone in the White House promoting healthy eating from microwavable plastic bags instead of encouraging Americans to eat fresh things that you grow yourself like that other woman was doing, am I right or what?

And another thing, everyone knows gops, cons, alt-whites, Freedumb Caucusers, Pepeista Trump supporters, et al, have lost their minds, but what's this all about?

***More Republicans viewing Putin favorablyGOP sympathies for Putin and his homeland are rising

...Back in July 2014 just 10 percent of Republicans held a favorable view of Putin, according to a poll conducted by the Economist and YouGov. By September of 2016, that number rose to 24 percent. And it's even higher today: 37 percent of Republicans view Putin favorably, the poll found in December. ***http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/gop-russia-putin-support-232714

Everyone knows you people love a stern daddy dominant type to tell you what to do, but really, you're warming up to Puti? Really?

***"You people were vicious, violent, screaming, 'Where's the wall? We want the wall!' Screaming, 'Prison! Prison! Lock her up!' I mean you are going crazy. I mean, you were nasty and mean and vicious and you wanted to win, right?" Trump said Friday.***

RBB- Wow, I thought this might be a joke but no, it's true--Ivanka Trump is going to be pushing plastic tasting toxic garbage food on American children because they don't have quite enough coming at them with her garbage pail dad as President. Yes, from Michelle Obama with several Ivy League degrees encouraging healthy eating with REAL food to Ivanka acting as First Lady (ew) pushing neuro toxins to developing brains so she can make a $$buck. What a greedy, selfish family the Trump's are.

Obama yesterday: Reagan would be rolling in his grave. 1/3 of republicans love Putin and Russia...

It only gets worse, Anon, take a look at the douchebaggery the NC gops are up to!

***N. Carolina GOP strips power from incoming Democratic governor

RALEIGH, N.C. — North Carolina Republicans stripped the incoming Democratic governor of some of his authority on Friday and were on the cusp of an even greater power grab, an extraordinary move critics said flies in the face of voters.***

I don't know why the GOP hates America and Democracy, Rbb...but this is just the beginning.

SNL was spot on last night, especially the frazzled looking Kellyanne and Putin, lol.

When Obama leaves we will have a POTUS that isn't interested in reading, cannot spell, is bored by security briefings or anything to do with being POTUS other than making a profit for his Kardashian like family empire and is in bed with the former head of the KGB. MAGA.

Obama couldn't even get away with being black & born in the U.S.A. -- republicans have it all figured out. They can say they want to shrink government while costing dumb Americans millions a day to protect a con man. China really hates us, Thanks Trump!

Foxy--I thought Trump would have Hillary in jail by now, lol. Oh, that's right- he's a liar, and 99.9% of what he told you won't happen. I guess about 20 million Americans are also hoping he lied about taking away their healthcare.

Let the destruction begin! Dems will be here in 4 years to dig us all out of your mess...again...

I saw fresh tears last night, and see new ones here this morning, and am filled. Michael Moore, all but begging someone (hint, hint, he might not make it to the inauguration) to keep Trump from being President, disbelief on his fat face. He's no different than those radical Imams calling for lone wolves to carry out attacks on innocents. So very sweet.

The idiocy of Malignant Moore. To publicly advocate assassinations as a tool of resolving an election, he opens a door to the non-socialist to use it as a tool in the future. The rest of America might think about it, but if it is used by the socialists, more than a few will quit just thinking about it and begin using that tool.

Gonna enjoy watching all the lefties run around crying now that Trump has won the Electoral College. Might just crack me a beer in the middle of the week!! I wasn't the biggest Trump fan, but man-o-man I love the way he pisses off the liberals!!!

I'm noticing here that pretty much the only thing that most of the righties agree on is hatred of the left. It is a little bit scary -- since I am not your enemy. I'd like to understand this hatred. Can anyone explain?

I can speak only for myself.I don't see the differences between the political right and the political left as being comparable to the differences between those who prefer green and those who prefer blue.I see leftism as a toxic religion, inasmuch as its tenants are based in faith rather than in fact, the adherents believe that they are saving the world and therefor all means are justified to further the faith.Leftism needs to be opposed with the all the rigor we can muster. The Marxist-Communist-Progressive(latest label) ideology has been, and continues to be, the cause of great human misery that is well documented. Just one example is post revolutionary Russia. The Communists quickly imposed economic policies that resulted in an economic collapse (think Venezuela). To the Communist rulers, the policies were orthodox and therefore could not possibly be wrong. The only way the collapse could be reconciled with the orthodoxy had to be because of obstructionism and sabotage. Accordingly, millions made their acquaintance with the firing squads and the gulags.The places that the left runs in the world present other examples. The stronger the leftard grip, the worse the circumstances.

Nate, you have got to kidding. The vicious never ending assault on the right is unprecedented in my life time. 'Racist,' 'homophobic,' 'fascist,' 'white supremacist,' are daily launched at the right. The left's constant attempt to attack Trump, and all his 'angry white men' who elected him continues non-stop. Constant lies, and exaggerations are daily in the news.There is a good reason that right is angry and despises the left. And yet is not nearly as nasty as the Left.Point to one famous American on the right that has suggested that someone ought to assassinate Obama, or Hillary. Yet you have Michael Moore doing that and it is just accepted. Clean your own damned house before you criticize the right's house.

“It sure looks like the accusations made against these men were based solely on resentment for them as Trump supporters. Do you recall any college students being penalized for celebrating the election of Obama in 2008?”