Hey Eric Dubay, Why Didn’t You Mention Your Freemason Family As Well?

Eric Dubay, the self-proclaimed father of the Flat Earth modern movement, just published an extensive call out on You Tube on the Freemasons in creating the Heliocentric model in Astronomy, NASA and their Solar Cult allegiance.

Yet, through his 27 minute expose, he mindlessly omits the fact that he comes from a Freemasonic family! He acknowledges that his Great Uncle was a 32 degree Freemason, yet conveniently omits this admitted fact from his new doc/video below.

Eric Dubay Bullshit? For everyone reading this, James Mays is my great uncle who is a Freemason whom I’ve talked about before. What’s bullshit uncle Freemason Jim? You know what’s bullshit? You lying about the Two-Ball-Cane (Tubal-Cain) 007 Freemason pin you used to wear when my Dad asked you about it. That’s bullshit. I remember that incident clear as day when I asked you about it and you’re claiming I’m a “bullshitter?” Man up and say something more than just “bullshit” uncle Freemason. What’s bullshit?Eric Dubay’s photo.7 hrs · Edited · Like · 19

The Jesuit Superior General, the Black Pope, not only controls his powerful Jesuit Order, but also controls the powerful Knights of Malta, top-level Knights of Columbus, and the top-levels of Freemasonry.

Through his control of the top levels of Secret Societies (especially Knights of Malta and high-level Freemasons), he controls the top intelligence agencies of the world.

“It’s easier to fool someone than to be deceived by these Masons…” ~ Coadjutator? Eric Dubay

Et Tu, Mr. Dubay???

How can someone do such in depth research, yet omit the overpowering role of the Jesuits behind the scenes for 500 years…or even mention Jesuits in any depth in his in depth expose on Freemasons??? hmm.

His only comment on a piece that I did and submitted to IFERS by a member about the connections to Jesuits in the 500 year Flat Earth Conspiracy, was to say it “is a many headed Hydra”, yet IFERS bash Jews incessantly.

Is this how a Flat Earth promoter should be presenting themselves as authoritative and credible?

Mr. Dubay, and his vicious henchmen admin’s on IFERS do not promote open Flat Earth debate and discussion to the detriment of the rapidly growing Flat Earth Movement.

Here is his brutal attack on homosexuality, further alienating the FE Movement and shows his callous disregard for an individuals freedom to choose a partner.

“In case you didn’t notice the obviousness of your human anatomy, your asshole is for exit only. Female vaginas were made for sexual union with male penises. Assholes were made for excreting shit. Why do you think Jewish Hollywood is awash with gays and gayness? They are among the biggest promoters of this devious lifestyle. They want to genocide the white race so a great way to do that is to turn us all gay. And therein also is the ultimate universal proof that being gay is UNNATURAL – because if everyone went gay today, within one generation the entire human race would die off! In philosophy the validity of claims are tested by making them universal. So to check the validity of “being gay is okay and natural,” we simply universalize the claim, and see that being gay is NOT okay and natural because making it universal would result in the death of the entire human race in one generation!

“Before 1975 homosexuality was listed in the DSM psychological diagnostic manual as being a mental illness, which it is, and usually comes about from molestation as a young child. Nowadays, thanks to the overt gay agenda being promoted by Hollywood and the Jew-stream media, homosexuality has been taken off the DSMIV and instead so-called “homo-phobia” is supposed to be a mental illness. Sorry Douglas, but being pro-nature, pro-humanity, and thus anti-gay, is very different from a “phobia.” Phobia means scared, and people who speak out against gayness are not “scared of gayness,” we’re opposed to gayness, big difference. And to answer your question, “does this forum agree with hatred of those who are same sex sexually oriented?” Being critical of a behavior and “hating” someone are two different things, and if anything, your knee-jerk reaction telling Marleyites to “go fuck herself” for simply using the word “sodomy” shows YOUR latent hatred for anyone who dares criticize your unnatural sexuality. http://ifers.boards.net/user/1/recent?page=11

They continue to refuse to allow other Flat Earth Researchers credit or even posts on their now past prime forum. Yet no matter, the Flat Earth movement grows and grows with or without his significant contributions to date.

This is the reason I became the first member of IFERS to resign in disgust of their betrayal to their headline Mission Statement…”Flat Earth Researcher”.

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Hofjuden Jews server the Jesuits and Roman Catholic popery.

The court Jews, as the agents of the rulers, and in times of war as the purveyors and the treasurers of the state, enjoyed special privileges. They were under the jurisdiction of the court marshal, and were not compelled to wear the Jews’ badge. They were permitted to stay wherever the emperor held his court, and to live anywhere in the Holy Roman Empire, even in places where no other Jews were allowed.

Abstract:

Hofjuden (“Jews of the Court” or “Palace Jews”) was written for Streicher by Peter Deeg and sought to trace the influence of Palace Jews (Jews employed by the Royal Courts) in the monarchies of Europe from the Middle Ages through World War I

Streicher intended it to be the first of several volumes examining the questions of, “Jews, Jewish Criminals, and Jewish Law in Germany Throughout History.”

Hofjuden (pronounced hOf-youden) was begun by Deeg in 1936 and completed in time for a very proud Julius Streicher to present a copy to German Chancellor Adolf Hitler in the fall of 1938.

Hofjuden

(German: Court Jews) – term applied from the 16th century to Jewish bankers and merchants active at the courts of German feudal rulers. They were placed under special care, were not subjected to state jurisdiction or, in case a Jewish Council existed at their place of residence, to Rabbinate Courts. Amongst most prominent dynasties of Hofjuden were: descendants of S. Oppenheimer and S. Wertheimer, the Eskeles, the Arnstein families and the Pereira family from Vienna, as well as the Gomperz family of the Hohenzollern court.

In the early modern period, a court Jew or court factor (German: Hofjude, Hoffaktor) was a Jewishbanker who handled the finances of, or lent money to, European royalty and nobility. In return for their services, court Jews gained social privileges, including in some cases being granted noble status. Court Jews were needed because usury did not apply to them, whereas it did to Christians.

Examples of what would be later called court Jews emerged in the High Middle Ages, when the royalty, the nobility, and the church borrowed money from money changers—among the most notable are Aaron of Lincoln and Vivelin of Strasbourg—or employed them as financiers. Jewish financiers could use their family connections, and connections between each other, to provide their sponsors with, among other things, finance, food, arms, ammunition, gold, and precious metals.[citation needed]

The rise of the absolute monarchies in Central Europe brought numbers of Jews, mostly of Ashkenazi origin, into the position of negotiating loans for the various courts. They could amass personal fortunes and gain political and social influence. However, the court Jew had social connections and influence in the Christian world mainly through the Christian nobility and church. Due to the precarious position of Jews, some nobles could ignore their debts. If the sponsoring noble died, his Jewish financier could face exile or execution. The most famous example of this process occurred in Württemberg, when—after the death of his sponsor Charles Alexander in 1737—Joseph Süß Oppenheimer was put on trial and finally executed.[1] In an effort to avoid such fate, some court bankers in the late 18th century—such as Samuel Bleichröder, Mayer Amschel Rothschild, or Aron Elias Seligmann—successfully detached their businesses from these courts and established what eventually developed into full-fledged banks.

Prohibited from nearly every other trade, Jews began to occupy an economic niche as moneylenders in the Middle Ages. Only they were allowed to take interest on loans, since—while the Church condemned usury universally—canon law was only applied to Christians and not to Jews. Eventually, the majority of the European Jewish community were engaged in financial occupations, and the community was a financially highly successful part of the medieval economy.[2][3] The religious restrictions on moneylending had inadvertently created a source of monopoly rents, causing profits associated with moneylending to be higher than they otherwise would have been.[4] By most parameters, the standard of living of the Jewish community was at least equal to that of the lower nobility.[5] However, despite this economic prosperity, the community was not safe: religious hostility increased to the extent that it manifested itself in the form of massacres and expulsions, culminating in the repetitive expulsion of all Jews from various parts of Western Europe in the late medieval period.

By the 16th century, Jewish financiers became increasingly connected to rulers and courts.Josef Goldschmidt (d. 1572) of Frankfurt, also known as “Jud Joseph zum Goldenen Schwan”, became the most important Jewish businessman of his era, not only trading with the Fuggers and Imhoffs, but also with the nobility and the Church.[9] In the early 17th century the Habsburgs employed the services of Jacob Bassevi of Prague, Joseph Pincherle of Gorizia, and Moses and Jacob Marburger of Gradisca. On the dawn of Mercantilism, while most Sephardi Jews were primarily active in the west in maritime and colonial trade, the Ashkenazi Jews in the service of the emperor and princes tended toward domestic trade.[10] Not always on account of their learning or their force of character did these Jews rise to positions close to the rulers: they were mostly wealthy businessmen, distinguished above their co-religionists by their commercial instincts and their adaptability.

The court Jews, as the agents of the rulers, and in times of war as the purveyors and the treasurers of the state, enjoyed special privileges. They were under the jurisdiction of the court marshal, and were not compelled to wear the Jews’ badge. They were permitted to stay wherever the emperor held his court, and to live anywhere in the Holy Roman Empire, even in places where no other Jews were allowed.

Jews were sometimes assigned the role of local tax collectors. These roles built up a long standing enmity between Jews and Christians, the results of which had far-reaching consequences in the history of European Jews.

Israel Edler von Hönigsberg, (1724–1789), court agent and lessee of the tobacco monopoly from the Habsburgs. “Bankaldirektor” for Joseph II. First Austrian Jew to be ennobled without converting to Christianity (1789).[21]

In the West. the prime cutout for Dope, Incorporated is the Zionist Lobby.

This cutout begins at the top with the cohesive grouping of Hofjuden (“Court Jews”) who serve the British monarchy as loyal. wholly owned servants. These families, whom we will meet by name, have a centuries-long tradition of attaching themselves to the predominant noble houses of Europe, providing indispensable services as tax-farmers and errand boys for the Pope266 DOPE, INC.

The types of missions that the aristocrats would prefer to plan out not get caught in carrying out. Many of these Hofjuden families migrated from Amsterdam to Britain after the “Glorious Revolution” (1688), which brought the Dutch House of Orange onto the British throne in alliance with the most bucolic, feudalist landed gentry of the Isles.

That Anglo­Dutch merger of the late 17th century turned Britain into the most powerful center of the European oligarchical faction – a status it has maintained for three centuries. For these Hofjuden families, the relocation to Britain marked no shift in allegiance; they have functioned as servants for the oligarchical system, not for specific houses.

Several of the Hofjuden families who converged on London during the 17th and 18th centuries had· served the Genoese bankers in their takeover of Holland, had anticipated in the Dutch East India Company’s first expeditions in opium trade, and had collaborated over the centuries with the British esuits against European humanist forces.

The Hofjuden should not be confused with the Jewish people. In much the same way that one would not condemn an entire nation for the crimes committed by its most deranged citizens, one cannot condemn the entire Jewish people for the centuries of crime committed by the Hofjuden. The only relationship the Hofjuden have had to Jewry is that of persecutors and tormentors. As the clandestine operations bureau for the oligarchy, they quickly learned that they could augment their capabilities tremendously by subjecting Jews to waves of persecutions and then recruiting terrorized Jews into Zionist organizations that had as their obstensible aim the “survival” of Jewry! In street parlance, the Hofjuden have run a six-century·long protection ­extortion racket against the Jewish people -to the overall effect of building up a sizable “Zionist” network at the disposal of British Secret Intelligence.

This traditional relationship to Jewry was carried to its lawful conclusion in the 20th century when the Rothschilds, Warburgs, Oppenheimers, Schroeders, and other Hofjuden became the leading financial backers of Adolf Hitler.

One of the greatest benefits that the Hofjuden gained by their complicity in Hitler’s genocide of the East European population was that they could henceforth hide behind the memory of the 267 ORGANIZED CRIME awesome fate of millions of Jews and conduct the filthiest sorts of operations -from drug-running to terrorism to genocide against Arab and related populations -without being exposed for these crimes against humanity.

Whenever any critic attempted to expose these crimes, he was quickly assaulted as a “Nazi.” a “fascist.” or an “anti-Semite.” It is neither unrelated nor coincidental that these Zionist Hofjuden were delegated the role of cutouts between the inner circles of the British nobility and the filthiest gutters of organized crime. Even within the Hofjuden. we encounter two levels: one is the centuries-old families (the Hofjuden “elite”) who rub shoulders with and are intermarried with the nobility; and the second. the “initiates” -“chosen” by the Hofjuden elite to be the drug-runners. the bootleggers. the murderers. and extortionists – who themselves hope that by slavishly serving the British oli­garchy they will be placed among the ranks of the Zionist “respectables”.

” Within the first category. we find such “respectable houses” as these:

The Montefiores trace their origin as “special operations” experts for the European oligarchy to the 13th century in Spain, when they ran errands as tax farmers and Inquisitors for their masters, the Genoese. The Montefiores later moved to Holland to help found the Dutch East India Company and the Bank of Holland. After the Stuart Restoration of the mid-17th century, the Montefiores moved to England where they helped establish the Bank of England and the British East India Company.

Under Sir Moses Montefiore. the family collaborated with Lord Palmerston and Prime Minister Disraeli in the founding of the present-day Zionist “movement.”

The Goldsmidchts and Mocattas have been the leading bullion merchants for the royal family of England since the Stuart Restoration, predating the founding of the Bank of England. As we have seen, both families conduct a significant portion of the black marketeering in precious metals for the Hong Kong drug traffic.

The Oppenheimers control a large portion of the diamond and gold mining in South Africa and are interlocked with the 268 DOPE, INC. HongShang Bank to provide yet another means of exchange for drug transactions.

The Canadian de Hirsch family bankrolled much of the Jewish migration from Eastern Europe to Canada and is still a bank­roller of Zionist organizations.

The Sassoons were the first Hofjuden family to concentrate their resources primarily in opium production. Known as the “Rothschilds of the East,” they settled in India at the beginning of the 18th century. The Sassoons relocated in 1949 to the Carib­bean where they established themselves on the ground floor of casino gambling and unregulated offshore banking.

The Rothschilds began their fortune in Hesse-Cassel, Germany by supplying Hessian mercenaries to the Hanoverian King George III of Britain against the American colonies. They are “johnny-come-Iatelys” to the Hofjuden circle, having only seriously gained a place in the oligarchical court with the Treaty of Vienna in 1815.

From that point, however, the Rothschilds have expended considerable resources toward the subversion of the American republic; they maintain an “investment” presence in Dope. Incorporated.

Immediately below the Hofjuden elite are those “initiate” families selected and sponsored to run the criminal underworld and its “legitimate” front organizations. Into this category falls the powerful Bronfman family of Canada. the Hong Kong of North America. By all accounts one of the richest families in the world, the Bronfmans are a sterling example of a family hand­picked and raised out of the gutter to become some of the best paid crooks in the world. A Bronfman illegal loan of $350.000 to the Campaign to Re-Elect Hugh Carey as Governor of New York recently caused a public outcry, but as the story we now tell shows, the Bronfmans themselves are owned and operated by the British banking elite of Dope, Incorporated.

NYTimes

The complex position of Court Jews is suggested in a single object in the show’s first gallery. It is a small amulet given by Mordecai Meisel (1528-1601) to Rudolf II. Made of gold, enamel and precious stones, it is an extravagantly beautiful gift from a subject to his lord, yet it bears the engraved image of a seven-branch menorah, and its dedication to the ”eternally powerful” Emperor Rudolf is in Hebrew.

Through such offerings and loyal service, Jews gained not only immunity from the law (they were exempt from the Christian proscription against usury), but also access to wealth, to social position and to cities — Vienna, Berlin — from which they had long been excluded. Although initially only the Court Jews themselves were permitted to take up residence, communities were gradually formed and synagogues established.

Many of the show’s most lavish objects were created for these houses of worship. One is a silver Torah ark cast in Vienna around 1700. Another is a silk curtain, densely embroidered with floral designs, commissioned for a synagogue in 1723-24 by the daughter of Behrend Lehmann, one of the most prominent Court Jews of the 18th century.

Lehmann and other Court Jews of comparable rank — Samuel Oppenheimer, Samson Wertheimer, Leffmann Behrens, Daniel Itzig and Mayer Amschel Rothschild — were complex public figures. They were both aggressive entrepreneurs who emulated the lives of the court elite and philanthropists ever mindful of their duty to the Jewish community.

Alexander David (1686-1765), the Court Jew in Braunschweig, Germany, amassed a group of exquisitely wrought objects very much on the lines of a royal treasure cabinet. But his collection consisted entirely of Judaica, and, bequeathed at his death to a city synagogue, amounted to the world’s first Jewish museum.

David’s career was relatively quiet, but for many Jews life at court held dangers, as is clear in the case of Joseph Oppenheimer (1698/9-1738), known as ”Jud Suss.” Employed by Karl Alexander, Duke of Wurttemberg, Germany, he was both professionally brilliant and personally indiscreet. When the Duke died in 1737, Oppenheimer was arrested, tried on charges of abusing his office and keeping Christian mistresses, and promptly hanged.

Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1773-1855), who rose from the Jewish ghetto in Frankfurt, was among the last of them, and in terms of wealth, social standing and generational longevity, one of the most successful.

The exhibition ends, with a great flourish, in a room of wonderful Rothschild family portraits. Mayer Amschel is here, as are his five sons who, in the new Industrial Age, set the paradigm for modern international banking. Four of them established branches of the family business throughout Europe, while a fifth kept the home fires burning on the Judengasse in Frankfurt.

A popular French print titled ”Museum of Horrors” displayed nearby depicts her son Nathan Mayer, who had lent money to the English during the Napoleonic wars, as a dog with a hook-nosed human face digging gold coins from a grave marked ”Waterloo.”

Like Gutele, the Rothschilds, even after their absorption into the European aristocracy, remained conscious of their ghetto roots. And those roots subtly underlie even the grandest objects in this show.

So it makes some sense, after spending time with the Rothschilds on Fifth Avenue, to take a September stroll farther downtown, where New York’s Jewish communities began. The tiny, early-19th-century Sephardic cemetery tucked between buildings on West 11th Street in Greenwich Village, for example, was already there when the Rothschilds’ ascent in Europe was new. Its thin stones are few and its grounds dark and narrow, but it speaks of beginnings and endings that few of the Court Jews ever forgot.

”From Court Jews to the Rothschilds: Art, Patronage and Power 1600-1800” remains at the Jewish Museum, 1109 Fifth Avenue, at 92d Street, through Jan. 19.

Please remember folks that the Roman power directly over Jerusalem and the Middle East is via their powerful ancient arm known as the Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulchre of Jerusalem. Now remember how Jesuit-trained, Knight of Malta, Juan Carlos of Spain is also within the Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulchre of Jerusalem. Jesuit-trained Szymon Perski [Shimon Peres], the Vatican assassin, is a loyal Hofjuden Sabbatean Frankist controlled fully by the Papacy and its shadow ruler, the Zoroastrianist Papal Nobility, Arcana Arcanorum Rite of Atlantis and its Society of Jesus. Israel is controlled by the order stated above and also the next-in-line Knights of Malta, another ancient crusading order of old. In the lower-down power structure you’ll see how Roman, Westminster controls Israel via The Institute for Jewish Policy Research and of course their U.S. arm, the Council On Foreign Relations. If you want to study some very powerful beings in this country called “Israel” then I suggest you study both Pierbattista Pizzaballa and Fouad Twal.”

A force of over 30,000 Frenchman which had sailed from Toulon, Corsica, Genoa, and Civitta Vecchia arrived off of Malta on 9 June.[6] The majority of the roughly 300 knights were elderly, which resulted in a poor defense of the island.[7] Also, the local militias were poorly trained and terrified at the prospect of engaging the French. Napoleon wasted little time once his fleet arrived off of the island. Two brigades commanded by future marshals Marmont and Lannes under General Charles Henri Vaubois landed near Valetta, the capital of the island. Vaubois’ column quickly dispersed the Regiment of Malta, who retreated towards Valetta. Meanwhile, General Louis Charles Desaix landed and defeated another body of Maltese troops. A third column under General Jean Louis Ebénézer Reynier captured the neighboring island of Gozo after he promised to do the locals no harm.[8]

The arrival of the French caused widespread panic in the streets of Valetta. Several knights were killed by a mob after rumors had spread of the island’s surrender. As all of this chaos raged within the walls of the city, the Grand Master remained indecisively in his palace.[9] Finally, the knights came to terms on 11 June, surrendering the island to the French.[10] The Order’s tenure on the island had met a dishonorable endhttp://www.napoleon-series.org/military/battles/1798/c_Malta.html

Pallavacini family financed French Revolution.

Given control of the Vatican after the 11th century.

Names the names in the British Nobles families that, allegedly, ultimately call the shots as well as their tools around the world, mostly tightly-knit ethic minorities, including Sicilians (mafia), Jews (mafia), Ch’ao Chou Chinese, etc. Presents very signifcant data debunking the “Jewish Conspiracy” theory so common in “conspiracy research” circles, showing the infamous “Jewish villains” of conspiracy lore, the Rothschilds, Warburg, Schiffs, Bronfmans, etc., to be “Hofjuden” or “House Jews” of the British Crown. The rise of the Bronfmans from Prohibition Era rum runners to high society leaders of Zionism and International Finance, sporting Knighthoods awarded by Queen Elizabeth II, is very instructive in this regard. Dope inc.

The High Jesuits control The Masonic Muslim Leaders of The Middle east

The High level Sunni Muslims have all the oil and Money and are close with the papacy , Mekka and Turkey are both controlled by The Jesuit order , The Muslim brotherhood is controlled by The Knight of Malta Palavincini’s through The Masonic High Council of Egypt and The Knight of Malta controlled CIA……….

In 1773 “Infallible” Pope Clement the 14th banned the Jesuit Order by a perpetual decree due to public outcries against the Jesuit ORDO AB CHAO method of causing false flag terror, political unrest, assassinations, etc.Anyone old enough to remember 9-11-01, should relate..same Order, same supheric odor.The following Pope who succeeded the poisoned one, signed a guarantee that the Jesuits would never be banned again. Therefore the Jesuits have ruled the Vatican and over Protestant Seminaries since then “the Jesuit Order it was banned and suppressed in 1773 by a Papal decree” Now we all know why the Jesuits were being suppressed and banned in more then 80 countries and why the Bavarian Illuminati was created and why all these Pope serving Jews (Like The SMOM Roth-Schilds (Red-Shields)) have risen to places of power , we could say the answer to all these Papal Illuminati Court Jews (hofjuden) is 1773 , they are ALL controlled by The Jesuits. So that’s how The Jesuit Order took over the Papacy (Papal (Ptolemaic) Bloodlines – Council of 10) in 1814 by a Papal Bull ! And That’s how we find so many Masonic labour zionist in places of power…..as a front to hide the Jesuits until this very day ! Their appearance is of Priests but infact they are behind the whole NWO agenda and worked on it for at least 500 years ! Make no mistake people , true history does not lie , they are spreading many lies about this history accross the web , to try and destroy the truth. The Brittish Crown is Jesuit Controlled since King George III , They controlled The House of Stuart before that but were banned by The Protestants. The Head of The Dragon: The current Dictators of The world are Hans Peter Kolvenbach (still active) and Adolpho Nicholas The New Jesuit Superior General since 2008 adviced by The Papal Bloodlines The Council of 10 (The Arcane Arcanorum Rite of Atlantis) , Pope Benedict XVI was Jesuit trained many years before he became Pope and he grew up in The Hitler Youth.http://blogdogcicle.blogspot.ca/2013/03/the-new-pope-francis-i-is-high-level.htmlhttp://arcticbeacon.com/books/Lehmann-Behind_the_Dictators-Relationship_of_Nazi-Fascism_and_Roman_Catholicism(1945).pdf

The Jesuit and SMOM invasion of Iraq by George Bush was nothing else then a crusade and an inquisition on Shia Islam discrediting christianity ans slaughering Shia Muslims of whom the papacy knows that they will oppose the Vatican , Iraq expelled the Jesuits in 1969 , this was paybacktime

In 1978, in their secret
Conclave, the Cardinals selected another Italian to be Pope, John Paul
1st. But, soon it became evident from a geopolitical and religious
standpoint, they most likely made a wrong selection.

He soon enough let it be known that he was for modifying the Vatican
position of absolute prohibition for Catholics to use birth control. In
simple terms, he was against birthing more children than a couple could
financially take care of. It was a reasonable, humane position to
non-Catholics.

Furthermore, he was determined to put an end to the traditional Sicilian
and Italian Mafia, jointly with certain corrupt Archbishops, and the
American CIA, in using the Vatican Bank as a money laundry for stolen
gold treasuries, dope money, illicit weapons deals, assassination funds,
and superior counterfeit currency dealings, among other dirty, bloody
business.

Some Italian editors dared demand that Pope John Paul 1st, do something
about the Continental Bank of Chicago, the majority owners jointly being
the Vatican and the Queen of England. The bank, some Italian editors
stated, was a laundry for the Mafia.

[As we dared point out publicly, the Chief Judge of the Chicago Federal
Appeals Court, Walter Cummings, Jr., was a “man of trust” for the
Vatican, and held a large block of shares, as nominee and front man for
the Pope. Judge Cummings, a banker-judge, did NOT disqualify himself
when his Continental Bank and their major clients were litigants in his
tribunal. Guess who won in his crooked Court?]

[As predicted accurately by this writer, Continental Bank collapsed in
1984 and was taken over later by Bank of America owned jointly by the
Jesuits and the Japanese underworld, the Yakuza.]

Thirty-three days after taking office, Pope John Paul 1st was poisoned
with a cup of tea. It was a symbolic warning and death warrant by the
Free Masons, the Jesuits, and Opus Dei, the super-fascist, super-secret
group (by 2005, Opus Dei occupying their own large building in New York
city).

[More details of the plot against Pope John Paul 1st in the book “In
God’s Name” by David Yallop.]

Thereafter, the Vatican secret Conclave of Cardinals put together a
scheme, with the urging of the American CIA, to topple the Soviet
government.

In his Inauguration speech in 1841, President William Henry Harrison directly angered the Jesuits. He dared confront the Jesuits and then Pope, by proclaiming:

“We admit of no government BY DIVINE RIGHT, believing that so far as power is concerned, the beneficent Creator has made no distinction among men; that all are on an equality, and that the only legitimate right to govern, is upon the expressed grant of power from the governed.”

(Emphasis added.)

Thirty-five days later, for the benefit if not actually aranged by the Jesuits and the British Monarchy, President Harrison was posioned to death.

All told, SEVEN U.S. PRESIDENTS were assassinated from 1841 to 1963, as orchestrated if not actually arranged by the Jesuits and the British Monarchy. four by gunfire, three by poisoning.

[Visit www.skolnicksreport.com and links on Home Page there, to extensive series, “Overthrow of the American Republic”.]

Seldom more publicly mentioned, is that over the last two centuries and more, various Jesuits and Popes have labeled the Declaration of Independence as “wickedness”, and that Popular Government, provided by the U.S. Constitution with its Bill of Rights is a “satanic instrument”.

Are we Americans heading for Nazi doctrines if not actually here already? It is documented beyond dispute, that Prescott S. Bush, Sr., father of George Herbert Walker Bush, and grandfather of George W. Bush, had instrumentally financed the rise of Adolf Hitler.The term Homeland Security is an anglocized version of the abbreviated German term Gestapo.

Adolf Hitler, 1933,, and George W. Bush, 2000, and repeated in 2004, were installed in the highest office of their nation by arbitrary and corrupt powers.

Assassination of President Kennedy
Knight of Columbus“Rebel” to the Pope, in attempting to destroy the Jesuit General’s CIA and end
“Spelly’s War” in Vietnam, and therefore was a “notorious tyrant”whose assassination was lawful, according to the Jesuit Francisco Suarez
in his Defensio Catholicae Fidei.

I could not disagree with you more. Getting to the core of the hydra is key. Why does no one speak about the 500 year secret reign over our military, our politics, our money and our media? How many know that the Jesuits killed Kennedy, Lincoln, etc.
Why does no one in the Alt news cover the Jesuits and all the evil they have caused with Stalin, Hitler,etc.

And to imply he is a disinfo agent is utterly ridiculous given he has done more for the FE movement than anyone. You may not like that fact but it’s true. The criteria for being a shill must be more than you don’t like 10% of what he’s saying, offensive as it is. My gut tells me Dubay is sincere, with imperfections. Imagine that, imperfections. This is about the FE after all, and his contributions have far outweighed his imperfections.

I agree with his contributions to FE, yet he is disingenuous in his being for getting the truth out on FE wherever it may come from. He is an self-aggrandizing and is very mean spirited to anyone with any opposing, or alternative thoughts and gives ZERO credit to others and their work.
I wish he would stick to his expertise and encourage other FE research but spends so much time dissing other sites and relishing calling out shills that it detracts from bringing all into FE truths.
His anti=gay, anti-jew, anti-vegan, anti-anyone who disagrees with him is sad and if your read his forum over the past few months covers very little on Flat Earth.
We need to bring FE to schools, to fund our own experiments and encourage other to start their own websites. I suggested this on their forum and got……slammed.
He is also showing grave dishonor to the true FE starters of Charles Johnson, Samuel Shenton, etc… they deserve the real credit hear, truth be told.
He is not relevant any longer, IMHO, but he did get the ball rolling.

The excellent Jesuit history you provide here is a much-needed counterweight to IFERS’ Jew bashing. But that’s the way it’s supposed to work in a free market of ideas, right?

Though, as you point out, Eric is not the first to promote the FE, he is the contemporary vanguard and is I’m sure bombarded 24/7 with shill attacks at IFERS. So what may appear as a fascist intolerance for different ideas is just the necessity of defending what is more-or-less an FE sanctuary, imperfect as it is. I think we should give him a bit of leeway there.

Thanks for all your work. I’ve learned a lot here. I agree with you the Jesuits are the most important but always cringe at infighting.

GRS,
I agree. We’ll be starting our own forum at the start of the new year as well as a podcast on FE and other subjects. Would love to have your and everyone else’s participation. I think we can offer a much better forum that gets to deeper understanding and is welcoming to the 7 billion – a few thousand – who are clueless to FE Movement.

I wonder if you have any thoughts on the implications of the flat earth in understanding why they are geoengineering, and whether the fact that it is mostly in the north reinforces how dire the situation really is. I have been studying some Nasa maps and have yet to find the kind of massive spraying south of the equator that you can see north of the equator in the link below. South America and Africa are relatively spared. In fact I have never seen in the south the kind matchsticks dropped on the floor effect you can see in that link. Not even close.

Arctic methane release is happening in the north, compounding the warming, where UV-B readings are off the charts, 10x what they should be, because SBX transmitters are burning holes in the ozone. But the flat earth south has MUCH more water than we thought acting as a heat sink. The north is screwed because of methane, ionospheric heaters and too much land. This could explain why there is very little chemtrailing going on south of the equator. Perhaps they couldn’t control the southern jet stream even if they wanted to because it’s so damn big.

I checked with Dane, and he says they spray everywhere. In fact, I was asking him about where to relocate and he suggested S. America solely regarding what will be warming the latest, slowest.
My feeling is these MoFo’s are Terra Forming the Earth for their own needs, whether it be for mass hive mind control, keeping the Earth from frying us all or (out there), they are alien parasites who can adapt to much different climates.
The Pacific Ocean is warming so fast, so is the Arctic, Greenland and Siberia that it is only a matter of years, according to Dane, who has been spot on with his calls for the 10 yrs I’ve known him. i’ll check with him again shortly.

I don’t think anyone should be calling out another country for their pedo-nationalist behavior who lives in the U.S. or UK. Not sure of the accusation/insinuation about underage female “friends” either. When we used to email one another he was very happy with his lady friend of many years, so unless you’ve got evidence…it’s all conjecture and innuendo’s.

I am against ad homing attacks. Eric’S work was fine. He’s got a family, many do.
I know he is not Christian. What his affiliations are haven’t changed his useful work.
I could follow it. Not sure on ALL, but that’s normal.
He SEEMED sensitive and maybe the crude Ness I am reading here was hurtful to him.
In the meantime, for me, any discussions that make sense are welcome.

In over one year of following Mr. Dubay’s work, I don’t know where you find that he is a “Christian”. At the onset, he was very kind, very helpful and very willing to help us all learn more yet over the year he, and especially his admin’s have turned…no other way to say it…vicious.
It is not “CRUDE” to simply restate Mr. Dubay’s comments on homosexuals, his non commentary on his family Freemason connections in his video, etc.
If you go to “Flat Sanctuary” forum you can read the many, many that have been banned by IFERS for no reason at all. This is not helpful to the Flat Earth Movement.
Don’t shoot the messenger plz…
and it is time to move on past Mr. Dubay and spread the Flat out Truth.

Hi…facts are good, but anything beyond becomes unworthy. You missed what I said…he is not Christian. But whetherhis distant relative is freemasons is only relevant if He is.
I only commented bcuz it sounded like vicious gossip.

I think All gossip is poor form.

But he may be too sensitive etc, and you are right.
Eric helped, then…didnt, so we must…proceed.
I was snubbed also but thought that not important…just so you know.
If someone calls you out, I’ll want to speak about how you worked hard.

I see how some negative ideas around Eric Dubay have appeared. I was banned from IFERS for no reason also. (Where is that group discussion you had about that?)
In his(Eric’s) defense I’d say that the negative greetings and shill attacks also on his YouTube channel are over the top and extreme. This could explain some of what we perceive as negative personality traits that we see in his recent on line behavior. i still feel at his core he is a compassionate and caring person and his work is still valid. Maybe his only fault is believing that ‘they’ can’t get to him and discredit his work. The first job of the so called elite on this planet is to cause division and strife between people. Let’s not make the job easier for them. Cheers for all your great work here!

Thanx AJ,
No, it was almost one year ago when I read his excellent book, that awakened my senses to Flat Earth. Over the next couple of months we corresponded and he was a true gentleman and truly helpful. Once he started IFERS, he was again very cordial to members and guests alike. The turn for the ugly side began when he brought on his henchmen to help admin, and he was blindsided by Jeranism. Something changed.
I posted a comment on IFERS that we needed to focus on the science and the truth about FE and not worry about the shills, disinfo, etc. since we have commons sense, logic, reason, and facts on our side and all those shills will just fall by the wayside, but they went into attack mode and never got out.
So i resigned my membership. If you’ll notice now they have little essay or commentary on Flat Earth. It’s Jew bashing, gay bashing, troll bashing, etc. and turns everyone off. I have one mind that he is being controlled, or is controlled opposition now. He also disclosed huge truths about the Dinosaur Hoax and Fake nukes, so I wonder if he is that good about uncovering deep occulted truths, or on the inside.
He also will not say anything against the Jesuits and the Society of Jesus. In my piece, 500 years of Con Piracy, outlaying how the Jesuits were behind Copernicus, Newton, to Einstein, he glossed over my deep research, off handed it as “many heads to the Hydray…” and didn’t changed the source from my site to Zengarder’s, who reprinted my work. hmmm.
Onward though, this work is way too important for one person. Start the New Year, we will start a radio show and FE forum that will be more everyone friendly and more in the lines of good dialogue and info.
Thanx for the commentary.

I’m excited to hear about the radio show in the New Year and being part of the open for everybody Flat Earth forum. It took me the better part of a year to come to terms with the extent of how much we’ve been lied to about…well everything. There’s a healing process and much to unlearn when facing the reality that we live on a physical flat plane Earth.
Thanks for your response to my comment…I’m very much looking forward to future discussion with you and all the genuine truth seekers here. Cheers.

He is a knob enough said ! The fact he calls it the Atlantan conspiracy (it’s not a conspiracy it’s a fact ! ) says it all ! Yes his facts are correct but he is controlled opposition. I first looked at him a couple of years ago only till reading the Zetetic book did I switch on !

I emailed Eric Re North pole, which he said is….the center…of…the universe?!
I asked if you could go North of the north pole…since that’s what the map looked like.
I did not hear from him so still don’t know.
Don’t know where we can pose questions to FE.
I think the spinning ball now seems to have…a lot of…spin.
Anyone directing me would be helpful, thanks.
I also want to find where FE refutes spinning ballers.

Although I can’t buy the spinning…elliptical ball, nevertheless it explains the north pole better than flat earth.
What would be the shape of the flat earth and where are the pole?
Some said Antarctica forms the outer ring of ice around the flat earth.

But where on this map is the north pole? The top of the map?
Nothing beside it?

Also curious is what I was…taght…that the poles SWITCH or change places. I cannot believe we’d go through such a thing.
Appreciate any insights.

jesuits: jews in suit lol jewsuits. the founder of the jewsuits ignatius de loyola was a jew, eric jon phelps your jesuit hero is a blood diamond trader with israel and was destroyed in debate with mchael collins piper.

Skorka is the jesuit pope francis rabbi

all the early jewsuit researchers were jew apologists and shouted oy vey every other minute lol all nazi blaming holohoaxers.

jesuits is just anotehr jew created organisation for infiltration, guilty minions sure but not running things.

The Jew baiters come up with this argument time after time even tough there’s no truth in it. No historical source says Loyola was of Jewish ancestry, and the rumor was mainly started by a religious propagandist named John Torell – it’s the only citation that exists. It’s a complete and utter joke.

The real truth is that he was from a Basque noble family and a page in a Spanish Court while the blood purity laws were implemented. There were indeed many marrano Jews among the early Jesuits but they got kicked out in the late 1500s because their loyalty was under suspicion. And men of Jewish ancestry were only readmitted to the order after the second world war in the mid 1900s.

I want to get in touch with the author of this article. I am investigating about mr. Dubay, however the evidence the author provided is dead, because the forum is taken offline. That means insufficient evidence.

I am referring to “Eric Dubay Bullshit? For everyone reading this, James Mays is my great uncle who is a Freemason whom I’ve talked about before. What’s bullshit uncle Freemason Jim? You know what’s bullshit? You lying about the Two-Ball-Cane (Tubal-Cain) 007 Freemason pin you used to wear when my Dad asked you about it. That’s bullshit. I remember that incident clear as day when I asked you about it and you’re claiming I’m a “bullshitter?” Man up and say something more than just “bullshit” uncle Freemason. What’s bullshit?
Eric Dubay’s photo.”

I’ve got a small beef with Eric that I’d like to share: HE DELETES MY COMMENTS! Just yesterday I left a comment on his most recent video asking if, on a flat earth, a pilot must bear left to circle it counterclockwise and right to circle it clockwise. I went back to check for answers and my comment had disappeared. If Eric didn’t know the answer, that’s fine, but I’d appreciate it if he would allow the question to remain so that someone else would have the opportunity to reply….It’s not that I believe in the spinning ball earth. I don’t! But I just can’t figure out how a pilot could fly straight “around the [flat] world” without bearing left or right.

HI,
Your question is good. Made me stop and think about it. All I can come up with is that flights are done on straight lines on FE, not circumference flying, like the needle on a record player. Then their would need to be adjustments.
ED is a psyop agent. enuf said.

Everyone before you read this article and be misled just let one thought come across your mind….who is paying for a website just dedicated to making Eric dubay look bad or expose him? Think with your real eye not your 2 eyes…somebody is going to great lengths to discredit this lol who does that and pays for a domain to go against flat earth and the guy who is exposing these lies…anyone can say his uncle is a Freemason ….even if he is…just because my own personal uncle may be gay or a criminal or whatever doesn’t mean that I’m going to be that way lol….think people this is absolutely absurd and completely illogical. Oh and BTW p.s for all of you who didn’t know anonymous and wiki leaks a.k.a Jillian asange and Alex Jones and David icke are all controlled opposition. Cheers.

Anyone refuting FE merely DO NOT BELIEVE THEIR OWN EYES! You can look at the sea stretching LEVEL FOR MILES, KNOWING WATER “SEEKS ITS LEVEL” AND EASILY ASCERTAIN FE! HOW AND WHERE DO HUGE MASSES OF WATER “WRPA AROUND” THIS PURPORTED BALL? VIEWING CITIES, ISLANDS MANY MILES AWAY TOP TO BOTTOM ….AGAIN, PROOF OF 0 CURVATURE, NECESSARY FOR YOUR WILDY SPINNING BALL WHICH WOULD THROW YOU INTO OBLIVION! ALSO, NO CURVATURE ALLOWANCE IN FLIGHT PATTERNS, (NO INSTRUMENTS DESIGNED TO “NOSE DOWN” TO AVOID FLYING OFF THE “BALL” INTO OBLIVION! TRAIN, BRIDGE, CANALS ALL LEVEL CONSTRUCTION…NO CURVATURE ANYWHERE. GIVE IT UP. YOU’VE BEEN LIED TO! GET ANGRY WITH THEM DAMN BALL MAKERS, “EDUCATORS”, NOT THOSE TRYING TO CONVINCE YOU TO BELIEVE YOUR WHAT YOUR DAMNED EYES SEE!

Imho Dubay is right regarding being gay. It’s NOT natural and never will be but i also believe people should have the right to choose and live how they want.
What makes me really sick is the PROMOTION / PROPAGANDA of being gay. Gayparades in Amsterdam pe. Considering it being normal is off the chart..

Most flat earthers don’t know about Dubay’s history in the alternative media and truth seeking community, but I was reading his blog already some ten years back. He’s very knowledgeable about secret societies but still he’s only ever mentioned the Jesuits as not much more than a side note. Someone like him should no better, and it’s legitimate to point that out.

Through years he started pushing more and more of the notion of “Jew World Order”, he even brazenly promoted that obvious fake interview of “rabbi Finkelstein” admitting that Jews run the world. Like I said, he should no better.

And take note of the fact that he started promoting Hitler as a “great leader who opposed the Jew World Order” especially AFTER he had put out his first flat earth videos. Do you see what he’s doing there? It’s quite obvious he’s deliberately trying to associate the flat earth movement with Hitler sympathizing, “poisoning of the well” – a classic cointelpro trick.

“when i challenged him on his non-disclosure of Jesuits, and he said they were ‘his friends’.”

Really, he just plain said that, that’s quite extraordinary? Also, the irony is strong when he claims to expose those who are behind all the space deception whilst ignoring all the Jesuit and Vatican owned observatories, or that big bang theory was coined by a Jesuit (Georges Lemaitre).

Oh its you again. Ok well I have an idea for you. Maybe you could just talk about the jesuits without trying to bring Eric and what he talks about into it and always trying to make him look bad. Are you just so mad because he wont talk to you?
Sheesh eh.lol! I could make videos about people I think suck too but I realize that is a waste of my time and petty. Its starting to look like you just talk about him to get more views..then all the other haters just gang up in here and start throwing out why they hate him too. If this kind of information was shared without trying to bring in personal things and someone elses name it would probably be tolerable. nobody knows exactly how those gangs are operating we can all only gather evidence and present it just like nobody knows exactly who all of you people are but its fun gathering evidence like this by seeing what everyone shares online 😛

I think it should be obvious that Eric Dubay or anyone else that seems genuine and very knowledgeable could be mistaken on certain points. it would truly dishearten me if Eric Dubay was in this movement not for the obvious good he clearly demonstrates but some ulterior motive. so far all of his comments all of his videos makes sense especially since no one not one person in this universe, Flat Earth, or whatever has ever come across to me as absolutely perfect! When I read this particular post my heart was glad for if I have understood it correctly it corresponds to my original understanding of the Jewish people are individualized and certainly not all evil not all bad. I have found beautiful examples of human life from every culture, or every race I’ve ever encountered Eric seems to go pretty hard on the Jews as a whole but I have definitely heard him at least agree with another’s comment that not all Jews are bad I am hoping he will have a more open-minded approach to the sensitivity of certain issues and certain people without losing his momentum and influence and passion which is effective and awesome