kearly wrote:I hope they see him as a 3-4 DE, and pass on Datone Jones as a result.

Agreed.

I wasn't totally on board with Jones at 25, but if we were to get him at 56 I'd be very happy. Would be a nice replacement for Jason Jones with the potential to bulk up into a full-time 3 tech after a couple of years.

hawker84 wrote:i was misused as in a 3-4 in KC and was used as a DE, in SF he will more than likely move back to his natural position DT/ or perhaps NT to replace Sop...

The niners utilize the 3-4 as well so it is either miscast as a DE or NT for him.

He's no NT. Baalke knows that, which is why they extended Ian Williams. Our NT played only 30% of our defensive snaps last year. This is about getting more pressure out of our nickel defense. Dorsey will be a 3-tech in our four man front and rotate in to keep guys fresh. Our biggest issue was not having enough frontline depth. Dorsey helps alleviate some of that. This move was all about improving our nickel defense, which has now become a base defense in today's NFL. My concern right now is the price tag. Hopefully we didn't give up too much for a guy who's essentially a role player to start out.

Looks like they're grasping at straws with this particular get. Glenn Dorsey is a pretty mediocre D-lineman, especially given where KC drafted him.

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hawker84 wrote:i was misused as in a 3-4 in KC and was used as a DE, in SF he will more than likely move back to his natural position DT/ or perhaps NT to replace Sop...

The niners utilize the 3-4 as well so it is either miscast as a DE or NT for him.

He's no NT. Baalke knows that, which is why they extended Ian Williams. Our NT played only 30% of our defensive snaps last year. This is about getting more pressure out of our nickel defense. Dorsey will be a 3-tech in our four man front and rotate in to keep guys fresh. Our biggest issue was not having enough frontline depth. Dorsey helps alleviate some of that. This move was all about improving our nickel defense, which has now become a base defense in today's NFL. My concern right now is the price tag. Hopefully we didn't give up too much for a guy who's essentially a role player to start out.

That makes more sense than bringing him in to play in your base 3-4. KC already wasted the first several years of his career trying to make him a 3-4 D-Lineman.

He's no NT. Baalke knows that, which is why they extended Ian Williams. Our NT played only 30% of our defensive snaps last year. This is about getting more pressure out of our nickel defense. Dorsey will be a 3-tech in our four man front and rotate in to keep guys fresh. Our biggest issue was not having enough frontline depth. Dorsey helps alleviate some of that. This move was all about improving our nickel defense, which has now become a base defense in today's NFL. My concern right now is the price tag. Hopefully we didn't give up too much for a guy who's essentially a role player to start out.

guys over on your board seem to think they'll be using him at NT from what i read

Scottemojo wrote:I think this board is underestimating his talents. World beater? No. But can he grab two guys so an outside linebacker can run free? For sure.

I think it is a good signing for SF.

This^All we want him to do is provide quality depth and take up 2 lineman at the snap of the ball, he plenty good enough to do that. Upgrade over lost players Francois and Soapoaga for sure as dlineman!

hawker84 wrote:i was misused as in a 3-4 in KC and was used as a DE, in SF he will more than likely move back to his natural position DT/ or perhaps NT to replace Sop...

The niners utilize the 3-4 as well so it is either miscast as a DE or NT for him.

my bad.. i thought they ran 4 d linemen in their nickel and dime packages

We do. Even our base defense incoperates alot of four man lines with 3-4 personnel. He was asked to 2-gap alot uder Crennel. He'll strictly be a penetrating, one-gapper like he was in college. We wont used him like we used Sopoaga, even if he is at NT. More like Ratcliff in Dallas....penetrate, shoot gaps, etc. Its what we would have done if we would have kept RJF to take over for Sopaga. Instead we got his more hearalded college teammate for a fraction of the cost. He defintely didnt live up to the his draft status. But Tomsula is one of the best, if not the best D-Line coaches in the league. He turned Aubrayo Franklin into one of the best NTs in the league when he was with us. Nobody viewed Justin Smith as the beast he is until he came to the Niners. RJF just got PAID....and he was a 7th round pick, who ppl said couldn't cut it as a 5-Tech when he was drafted. I'm confident he'll get the most out Dorsey, or at least more than KC did.