There are seven cut scenes on Studio Canal comparing with Optimum on The 13th Hole.
Itís strange because each passage around the cut scenes of the Studio Canal version has a grainy image on Optimum. For instance, when Steed and Mrs Peel follow Reed to question him (Letís ask Mr Reed), the image is perfect but becomes suddenly grainy for the questioning._________________Le Monde des Avengers

There are seven cut scenes on Studio Canal comparing with Optimum on The 13th Hole.
Itís strange because each passage around the cut scenes of the Studio Canal version has a grainy image on Optimum. For instance, when Steed and Mrs Peel follow Reed to question him (Letís ask Mr Reed), the image is perfect but becomes suddenly grainy for the questioning.

As I understand it (unless someone knows better), the reinstated scenes don't exist on the original films and only poorer quality recordings do.

Yes, the bit from Fog has gone back in. It was strange to finally see it as I'm so used to the cut which felt very natural .

Eventually, I would like to see everything restored and corrected...from the
best possible source materials...It's a crime, that a show, as wonderful as
this one has been ,not only to many people, but 'pop culture' has been
treated so shabby....it's maddening! wankers !

The Season 2 and 3 episodes are also generally slightly longer because they've reinstated all the damaged footage that they'd previously removed, thinking that customers used to DVD quality would complain about the picture distortions and interference patterns._________________Mrs Peel, you're needed!
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I do like this episode. The golf course scenes and clubhouse remind me of the old 9 hole muni golf course my dad and I played when I was growing up_________________I tried work, it didn't work out. It was too much like work.

Very enjoyable episode! I love Steed preparing to tee off. Quite absurd!_________________believe nothing, no matter where you read it or who has said it, not even if i have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
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There are seven cut scenes on Studio Canal comparing with Optimum on The 13th Hole.
Itís strange because each passage around the cut scenes of the Studio Canal version has a grainy image on Optimum. For instance, when Steed and Mrs Peel follow Reed to question him (Letís ask Mr Reed), the image is perfect but becomes suddenly grainy for the questioning.

As I understand it (unless someone knows better), the reinstated scenes don't exist on the original films and only poorer quality recordings do.

The main one I spotted was where a car pulls away from the front of the clubhouse at night, it was very flickery footage and I wondered if it was stock footage, which seemed unlikely given that it's a specific location.

Is there a list anywhere of the original release's missing scenes?_________________Last watched: The Man in the Mirror.

There are seven cut scenes on Studio Canal comparing with Optimum on The 13th Hole.
Itís strange because each passage around the cut scenes of the Studio Canal version has a grainy image on Optimum. For instance, when Steed and Mrs Peel follow Reed to question him (Letís ask Mr Reed), the image is perfect but becomes suddenly grainy for the questioning.

As I understand it (unless someone knows better), the reinstated scenes don't exist on the original films and only poorer quality recordings do.

The main one I spotted was where a car pulls away from the front of the clubhouse at night, it was very flickery footage and I wondered if it was stock footage, which seemed unlikely given that it's a specific location.

Is there a list anywhere of the original release's missing scenes?

The VTR inserts (most frequently used for location filming) often are of poorer quality, simply because of how they were filmed, although that's more the case for series 1-3 than 4 onwards.

The Australian broadcast master of "Return of the Cybernauts" for years arbitrarily skipped the scene where Bud Tingwell's character is abducted outside his factory - somewhat ironically, as Bud was an icon of the Australian stage & screen.

They seemed to have sourced a new copy recently as the last time is was screened the scene was shown._________________Mrs Peel, you're needed!
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Recently for first time I did comparison of the three prints of the episode "The Thirteenth Hole": British (DVD from Optimum), French (the print from kiosk-DVD edition), and the US (DVD) - and there are greatest surprise, ladies and gentlemen!!!

Important report:

Must say, I was so impressed with the results, that literally was in two nights thinking about one very unique nuance. But more on that later...
As start, I noticed that French print of the episode was even more cuts than the US (US prints of the episodes were used for Russian release of 4 series/season). While in the US print did not have exactly a minute (surprisingly, such accuracy) with respect to the British, then French has been reduced by more than one and a half minutes.
The scenes that are missing in the American edition, I posted on the its site.
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Main results of study were as following (American and French print has two of its advantages before mentioned UK print):

1. Some scenes in British print have "increased screen resolution" regarding other mentioned prints, which in turn themselves presents the screen would slightly truncated by the parties (increased approx. by 1.2% in comparing with UK print in scenes with other resolution).

UK print (shot from one of scenes with "increased screen resolution"):

US print:

But OK, this nuance does not cause discomfort during viewing, and usual viewer will not notice it.

2. This a nuance, of which I thinking for two nights. Prepare to be surprised!

The first thing I thought at finding it, was following, "Do I have hallucinations?" Then, I got more comfortable in chair, rubbed my eyes, literally, "rewinded the films" of the British and American prints ago and began to compare the footages again.
"Fantastic! No hallucinations."

That's what I saw when comparing, dear fans:

After the scene when Emma takes a coin from a Steed's hat and asks him: "And what's so important about three o'clock this afternoon anyway?" (this footage was available only on British print) come the next scene: on the golf course Adams, in the presence of Jackson, has his hands against each other, and reaches for the bag with golf clubs.
Duration of footage: 2 seconds.

American and French print was as following: after the scene when Steed lying on the couch puts on his hat, is the footage "on the golf course Adams, in the presence of Jackson, looks at his watch and then puts a golf club on his shoulder".
Duration of footage: 2 seconds.

Thus, we have two different footages in the same place, depending on the print of the episode.

I started thinking, how could it happen that the footages in the same place of episode are different - and initially began to analyze in the direction that in some way this UK print was incorrectly edited in whole when there was doing remastering and etc (as a footage, where Dr. Adams looks the watch, is right, because when he puts a golf club on his shoulder and then the shot is changed, we see the character with a golf club on his shoulder on close-up, while in the UK version, Adams had not even picked up any golf club from bag - suddenly when you see change the shot there, something is wrong). I assumed that this footage with Dr. Adams in the UK print probably had to be somewhere earlier in one of the scenes, while the actual footage there is simply missed. Exactly with such thoughts, I went to sleep, and all night "replayed" in a dream this episode, trying to figure out where this mysterious fragment could be inserted.
The next day, by certain reason I came to the conclusion that there was no other place where this footage could be, that is, he was in the right place, as well as the other. This indicated, if I analyzed correctly, that in fact these two fragments were actually just one whole footage in one place.

I kept thinking about it and eventually (today) stopped on the last of the above "point" - UK print for some reason have "missing link", which we can see in other prints. Overall it's seems about three - five seconds of missed footage.

It will be interesting to hear your opinion about the prints of the episode released by other companies or recorded from TV, if you have it.

The next step is checking of the episode prints for "Small Game for Big Hunters"

Very interesting, thanks
I wrote all these differences on Le Monde des Avengers website.
Castle De'Ath had also many cuts on the French kiosk version.
I made comparisons for all episodes of the season four, written under : 'Comparaison ťditions DVD Studio Canal / Optimum (par Denis Chauvet)": Too Many Christmas Trees was not cut but the French TV version was cut. The episodes which suffered cuts are : The Gravediggers, Castle De'Ath, The Thirteenth Hole, The Girl from Auntie, The House That Jack Built._________________Le Monde des Avengers

Very interesting, thanks
I wrote all these differences on Le Monde des Avengers website.
Castle De'Ath had also many cuts on the French kiosk version.
I made comparisons for all episodes of the season four, written under : 'Comparaison ťditions DVD Studio Canal / Optimum (par Denis Chauvet)": Too Many Christmas Trees was not cut but the French TV version was cut. The episodes which suffered cuts are : The Gravediggers, Castle De'Ath, The Thirteenth Hole, The Girl from Auntie, The House That Jack Built.

Thanks, Denis.
I am guided by your info on site for many years when dealing with episodes for Steedumbrella. Denis, it is interesting, you have other Avengers editions with this episode in home collection?_________________Russian fan-site Steedumbrella.
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I've just read this thread for the first time. Does the UK dvd box sets on Studio Canal (Green box for season 4 etc) contain compete episodes I'm usually observant, but I didn't notice any cuts compared to my old vhs recordings from the tv. Is the 13th hole complete or has this been cut for the Studio Canal set of dvd's. Darren, you mentioned the missing scene from Fog has been reinstated. Do you mean for the Canal box set (purple box) Which scene was reinsated? Clearly I haven't been that observant when watching these box sets! Rich.

I've just read this thread for the first time. Does the UK dvd box sets on Studio Canal (Green box for season 4 etc) contain compete episodes I'm usually observant, but I didn't notice any cuts compared to my old vhs recordings from the tv. Is the 13th hole complete or has this been cut for the Studio Canal set of dvd's. Darren, you mentioned the missing scene from Fog has been reinstated. Do you mean for the Canal box set (purple box) Which scene was reinsated? Clearly I haven't been that observant when watching these box sets! Rich.

Rich, at the moment I did comparisions the 16 episodes of season 4 in the production order, and the most significant differences were noticed in the following episodes on dvd box set by Studio Canal (Green box):

(below, I will not consider cuts in the French kiosk-edition and American edition)

So...

There are several episodes on dvd box set by Studio Canal (Green box), where have scenes with "increased screen resolution" regarding other the prints (like American and French).

More

1. Dial a Deadly Number

There is fading and brightening of the screen between scenes "Steed drinks a glass of drink at Yuill's office" and "Steed down the stairs of the pub", while in the American and French (DVD-kiosk) edition just changed the shot.

2. The Cybermauts

There is fading and brightening of the screen between footages "Emma looks at the punch card" and "Steed in Company United Automation", while in the American and French (DVD-kiosk) edition just changed the shot.

3. Man-Eater of Surrey Green

Other music fragment in the scene, when Lennox comes out from behind the trees on the way to the truck and watches the unloading of bags of fertilizer.
(before it was noticed by Denis Chauvet and posted on site Le Monde des Avengers).

4. The Thirteenth Hole

Unforunately, actually episode been cut on DVD box set by Studio Canal (Green box). There missed following footage: "on the golf course Adams, in the presence of Jackson, looks at his watch and then puts a golf club on his shoulder".

This footage available in US and French (kiosk) print, at least.

That's whole report for now (as for 4 season), but I will inform here on any significant changes in further study.

Yes, missing scene from Fog has been reinstated in DVD box set by Studio Canal (Purple box). Bit was as "When Nigel Green (Sir Geoffrey Armstrong) is murdered, Steed says, "I'll get a doctor." Geoffrey replies, "You forget Steed, I am a doctor. You can get me an undertaker."

I saw it for the first time last year and the whole scene makes slughtly a different feel.

Quote:

Clearly I haven't been that observant when watching these box sets! Rich

All right, Rich, sometimes we need about 10 times to see the same scene to notice the change.
For example, exactly Denis Chauvet noticed and posted on site Le Monde des Avengers about other music fragment in one scene of episode Man-Eater of Surrey Green, as before I read it there, I watched three times this bit and not heard (despite I have a good ear for music). _________________Russian fan-site Steedumbrella.
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