I'm in a foul mood for other reasons and I've been biting my tongue over this thread for days but couldn't give a fuck right now.

This is the most ill thought out, counter productive bollocks I've ever read.

Welsh MMA is nowhere near ready to produce any kind of ranking system and seeing as many of the guys on the list train together regardless of, or even because of, club loyalties, and many of the club and gym owners/instructers network, help each other out and work selflessly pushing MMA as a whole and not just their own clubs and names, this thread will do nothing but produce behind the scene unsettlement, whispering and bad feeling just at a time when everyone should be pulling hard together instead of creating an environment of one-upmanship that shit like this causes.

Ricky, out of absolute nowhere you've now created an environment of shitty competitiveness based on other peoples placing in your 'rankings' rather than personal pride in each and everyones singular achievments. You've now made it possible for one Welsh guy to pray for another Welsh guy to lose.

And god knows what it'll do to regional open mats and multi-club seminars (one of which I'm in the middle of organising).

My guys have fought some of Chris's guys, Budgies, et al.
My role as a coach and training partner is to get my guys in as good a shape as possible and even though I actively coach and strategize from cageside at events, I am enacting my role as a good coach and no fighter or opponant should expect anything else from me.
Personally though, I want the best guy to win. Whoever he may be.
Of course I want my fighter to be the best guy but if he ain't, tough shit on him !
Maybe I'm strange in that respect.

Sorry if I've over-reacted or worded myself badly.
(Actually I couldn't give a fuck but apparently it's the done thing to give yourself a get-out clause with such outbursts...).