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Re: Is it me?

I really don't see what options we have, we are wedded to McNair and so we just have to try to be patient until he figures things out. With as vocal as the players have been about McNair vs Boller I honestly don't see putting him back in as a realistic option (unless, of course, it's an injury situation).

Re: Is it me?

Originally Posted by StingerNLG

Second, please explain again how a QB with a winning record and a 12-4 home record is considered not a winning QB? If you want to get on him for the mistakes he's made, fine. Other than that, you're statement is factually wrong.

Re: Is it me?

You act as if this has happened more than once, against one of the league's best defenses in one of the toughest road locations to play in.

I am exaggerating.

57 minutes of garbage and 3 minutes of good is not enough.

Outside the 1st bucs drive, and the two minute drill on SD and Cleveland....nothing.

Of course your respsonse will be "well, those are good things, we won those games, 'kyle boller wouldn't have been able to do it'..."

At any rate, with this type of performance, I'd rather have seen what boller could do...cleveland was bad, but he was looking better at the end of last year. You'd think he'd put up better numbers than the man he replaced.

"but we win games"

Well, then we're going to have to disagree. If we were going to replace Boller, Brees makes more sense. He's a long term answer, not some stop gap that is going to get us into the same old situation unless we can find someone else and develop them. I just don't want to get started.

Something got to give. 1st things 1st, Jamal needs to have a severely reduced role in the offense. Then we'll see if something starts to click.

Re: Is it me?

What worries me,is that they reported Billick said he was happy with the running and passing when they came out for the second half.If you settle for second best,then get used to holding the wooden spoon.

The offense needs to open it up.And open it up quickly.Or once again,the defense won't have any strength left once the regular season draws to a close.

Re: Is it me?

If we were going to replace Boller, Brees makes more sense.

I too would've rather had Brees, but for whatever reason, our FO apparently didn't pursue him. If Brees was off the table, I was happy with McNair and am reserving judgement for now, as I did with Kyle Boller for three seasons (not that I'm willing to give McNair nearly that long).

I just have to wonder - If McNair put up 3,100 yds in TEN last year, 16 TDs, 11 INTs, why can't he do that here this year with better weapons (and get that INT number down a bit)? Or do even better? Even that performance, with our defense, would probably make us solid playoff contenders IF the running game also gets on track. That performance was just last year. He didn't have a major injury at the end of last year; he was well enough to play in the Pro Bowl. By process of elimination, then, these problems probably aren't about McNair's skills. He has the same skill level as last year. It must be about the process of getting accustomed to leading a new offense, the play-calling, the running game or (most likely) a combination.

Re: Is it me?

I've always supported Boller or whoever was the Ravens starting QB (Some of the original posters from the Ravensnest board probably remember my ill-fated "We Believe in Tony Banks" banner I took to the games during the 00-01 season

I think that Steve McNair can and will turn things around in the coming weeks based on the reality that he has the offense's total loyalty and respect. They will continue to gel (in my opinion) into an offense capable of producing 2-3 TD scores each game, in addition to whatever our magnificent defense manages to score.

Trust me, being there live in the freezing rain to witness our offense bumble and stumble it's way into the first loss of the season definitely wasn't a highlight of my visit to Denver, however I am willing to give McNair a free pass this time because for the mostpart he's been able to limit the kinds of mistakes he made Monday Night.

I believe that #9 is as pissed off and determined to NOT repeat those scenarios as anyone surrounding the Ravens just based on the interview he gave after the game... Time will tell the tale, however...

Re: Is it me?

Originally Posted by ravenjoe

Prove it?! I stated an Opinion which I'll stand by until the Raven's record indicates otherwise. If this team Fails to make the playoffs, then the addition of McNair (in lieu of Sunshine, named affectionately after the QB in the magnificent film, "Remember the Titans") will have not improved this team's relative success over the last couple of years. I believe McNair will deliver! He has attributes which, in my opionion, have been sorely lacking at the QB position ever since Mr Dilfer was released.

"Slick"....hmmm, I like that!

Goody, I get to verbally pimp smack someone.

Ok, you said the Ravens would be 2-3 at best with Boller right?

Uhmmm... last year the Ravens were 5-2 when the opponents scored 15 or fewer points. This year they're 4-1.

Guess what. That's pretty much the same record. Now before you go posting facts again, I'd suggest you actually do a little checking to make sure you're right.

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Re: Is it me?

The phenomenon I find amazing is how even though we're basically looking at the same exact offense, except with yet another QB, that people actually still haven't gotten that the QB hasn't been the problem. And in order to stick their head in the sand and pretend things are actually better now, they have to start off with "Well, you know I hate Boller and I'm so glad McNair is here, BUT..........." It's baffling because outside of the fact that we've gotten lucky a couple of times, we're 4-1 and that makes people forget that our new QB has a 67 rating and can't seem to move the ball or finish many drives, two things everyone thught was going to magically start happening with Boller out.

What's his road record?

6-14. That's why he's only 15-13 career or whatever it comes out to. Yes, we know playing on the road was a problem.

The difference is McNair has shown far more comeback ability than Boller ever did.

You are aware Tennessee was 4-12 and 5-11 consecutively the last couple of years, right? How many times did McNair lead comebacks in those seasons?

This is the type of thing that irks me.

If it doesn't, I fear this team will tank completely because they've already made it abundantly clear that Boller is not their guy.

And I think he knows they feel that way. So what motivation does he have to come sprinting off the bench to play? Like it or not, Boller is done here. I would be shocked if he resigns when his contract is up. And I think any chance he gets to play until then, he's simply going to use the mindset of playing to audition himself to other teams. You have to figure in 2 years 3-4 teams are going to need to replace their aging Quarterbacks. Why stay in a city that hates him?