Another American president, another North Korean nuclear test. Today’s North Korean underground blast — for which North Korea itself is making swaggering claims — was apparently bigger and better than the October, 2006 first try. For an added frill North Korea test-launched a missile that can carry a nuclear warhead.

So, what is the world’s superpower doing about this? President Obama is calling for … “action.” And not just any old “action,” but “action by the international community.”

If what he means, as urged by the UN, and in fact pursued by the second-term Bush administration, is yet more “engagement,” “talks,” and aid and bribes for North Korea, mixed with leaky and negotiable “sanctions,” then we’ve already had quite enough “action.”

A couple of observations, but first, a question or two:

How can we be sure that this latest North Korean blast was strictly a Pyongyang domestic project — as opposed to a rent-a-test of Iran’s bomb program?

One reason I ask is that Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was so swift to deny any connection — hustling out at a news conference today a response which clearly includes a lie – the question being how broad a lie. From Tehran, Reuters reports that Ahmadinejad denies any cooperation with North Korea on missiles or nuclear weapons: “We don’t have any cooperaton [with North Korea] in this field.”

On missiles, that’s flagrantly false. Iran and North Korea have been cooperating for years, with experts going back and forth. Reuters notes that Iran’s Shahab-3 missile, which could reach Israel and U.S. bases in the Gulf, is based on North Korea’s Nodong missile.

On nuclear weapons, far less is publicly known; but both countries have been part of the nuclear proliferation web spun by Pakistan’s A.Q. Khan. And North Korea already has a rap sheet for nuclear proliferation, with North Koreans spotted helping Syria in its secret construction of a copy of North Korea’s Yongbyon reactor — a would-have-been plutonium factory that was nearing completion on the Euphrates, and might now be active, had the Israelis not destroyed it with an air strike in September, 2007. This past March, a Swiss newspaper, the Neue Zuercher Zeitung, reported allegations by a high-ranking Iranian defector, Ali Reza Asghari, formerly a deputy defense minister in Tehran, that Iran helped support the building — with North Korean help — of that Syrian reactor.

So, just how chummy (or not?) are Kim Jong Il and Iran’s mullahs on things like nuclear bomb tests? Would it be too much to ask for a straight answer from the U.S. “intelligence” community? — which delivered a 2007 National Intelligence Estimate worded so as to defuse alarm over Iran’s nuclear projects, and thus derailed any action that might have by now defused the threat itself.

Well I’ve stopped caring about it… frankly the only reason to care is if its a threat to the US or its allies… since SK has zero interest in defending itself(as mr moon has many times expressed) I don’t really see the need to bother… pull out troops out and then once NK invade we just nuke them… if SK doesn’t give a damn about themselves why should we…?

If I’m not mistaken, we’ve been told that its OK, the President knows how to deal with the Islamic world, because he went to school in Indonesia. A South East Asian schooling would have been very handy today.

What part about encouraging them to invade and then nukes them thus fixing the problem before they become a huge threat with rockets that could manage to hit the broad side of the planet don’t you understand…?

You want to nuke them? I’m not being a smarty-pants-alec but I couldn’t make head nor tales of your post. Do you mean you want to nuke them before they can nuke us? Please help me to understand your POV because I’m honestly trying to and I feel a little lost. No insult intended…maybe it’s just me?

How can we be sure that this latest North Korean blast was strictly a Pyongyang domestic project — as opposed to a rent-a-test of Iran’s bomb program?

^^Claudia hits upon a key question here that very few people are speculating about – and that is this … “How Many Nations Are Conspiring Against Us?”

Russia wishes to regain it’s former satellites. China wants Taiwan back and increased influence in Asia. North Korea wants South Korea – who’s wealth could sustain it for another generation until the Norks devour it like locusts. Iran wants to eliminate Israel. None of these nations … Russia, Iran, China, North Korea – have any serious grievances against each other. Yet in every case – elements of what they deem their “National Security” are stymied by the United States and Western Europe.

If I were in their shoes – I would coordinate the efforts of China, Russia, North Korea, and Iran to subvert American and Western European influence.

Imagine for a moment … tomorrow you wake up – turn on Fox News and you find the following happened while you were sleeping …

1. Russia invaded ALL of Georgia and was in the process of taking Ukraine.

2. North Korea invaded South Korea.

3. China has taken Taiwan.

4. Iran has nuked Israel.

What, other than complete paralysis due to shock … would be the American and European response? The West is not prepared to deal with simultaneous moves by Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran.

The response would be the same that we initially had to Hitler’s aggression – appeasement. We’d give ground in hopes they wouldn’t take more.

And … in the short term – they probably wouldn’t. It’s not in their interests to start a nuclear war so accepting a peace that includes the gains they initially sought would likely cause them to be quiet for quite awhile – until they received indications from us that another push wouldn’t be opposed.

President Obama will be kissing Kim Jong Il’s butt in the next few days or weeks after the United Nations fails on any sort of paper tiger debating society harshly-worded resolution. He will agree America is evil & the cause for North Korea’s pain when, in fact, Communism is the true source & failure of North Korea. Obama believes in Communism too. Hence, his chance to change America into a Socialist Nanny State…

“What part about encouraging them to invade and then nukes them thus fixing the problem before they become a huge threat with rockets..”

Robo, with the greatest of respect, this assumes we have a POTUS and Congress with the stones to do such a thing. I am afraid tha Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are little more that a latter day incanraton of the Three Stooges.

Couldn’t you see all three of them — especially the Botox Beyotch — anguishing over when to push the button? I’m talking congressional hearings here.

On the bright side, everyone should Google Kim Jung Il + stroke and see the before and after pictures of a wasting-away Pajama-Boy who has seen better days.

NK lives to extort money by saying it will do things such as spread nuke tech, spread missile tech, etc, etc, etc. They then take the extortion money and use it to fund these techs which they then quietly sell to anyone who’s willing to pay the price. This process repeats every few years. The reason why they are able to build nukes is because of the extortion money from both the US and from “humanitarian aid” from the UN.

So or later NK will have to be dealt with… the problem however has always how to deal with NK without have SK heavily arty’ed and bombed…Mr Moon has solved this problem(and many ppl in SK as well) by pretty much not caring about defending SK or about dealing with NK…. thus WE(ie the US) should follow their lead and not give damn about SK.

A simple 3 step plan will have NK invading SK in a matter of weeks.

1. Cut all funding to NK and prevent the UN from funding them as well. “Blockage” “international humanitarian aid” if need be.

2. Withdraw our troops.

3. Elect someone like obama and promise that the US will honor its defense pledge to its allies as much as the current euro countries honor theirs.

NK will be across that border in no time flat. After letting NK level a few SK cities we can go in and mop up NK force in SK areas. Once we start pushing past the DMZ kim will threaten nukes/chem/bio weapons… chances are he will use them to if we promise to give him a fair trial like saddam got… and then problem solved. Nuking half of NK fixes alot of problems that have been building for a few decades now…. better to do now and fix the problem then to wait and have it 10x worse… ppl still haven’t learn that lesson from WW2… WW2 could have gone down in history books as a minor skirmish with a few thousand soldiers killed on all sides… instead around 100 million ppl died either directly or indirectly from it. A few million today could save a few billion tomorrow….

In the end its a matter of principle… if the SK cared about their country or defending it, this plan is unthinkable… but with the approval of ppl like Moon and others from SK this plan is becoming a more logical and more realistic option.

Anna, these are not sobering warnings they are chilling facts. Thank you for the link and Ms Glick’s perspective. I never realized how much this incompetent fool, Obama, was/is whistling past the grave yard. There are posts here on PJM and all over the internet about how his chickens are coming home to roost but they mostly refer to the economy that he has mis-managed in four short months. Now, I guess his foreign policy is beginning to bear poisoned fruit as well.

May God preserve Israel; she may be our only line of defense against Iran. Dunno who will help us with North Korea.

So now we will just have to sit and wait and see what the teleprompter tells Obama to do. Hopefully he will not punt this problem to the UN (which will impose worthless sanctions for the umpteenth time).

It’s a frightening time amplified by an ineffectual, hesitant President.

Not that I hadn’t seen this coming since the Clinton [mis]administration, but now that it’s FINALLY here, I’ve got a VERY BAD FEELING about what is about to happen.

I’ve got the ‘feeling’ that if a nuke from North Korea or Iran goes off in NYC or DC of LA or Las Vegas…..

….there’s going to be a mob-scene at the White House. And a number of people are going to be trying to get Obama’s head on a proverbial ‘pike’. That includes a number of people who lost loved ones in such an event.

I remember the look in the eyes of a co-worker who lost a daughter in the Twin Towers on 9/11…..

Great article…
It’s all rather obvious, isn’t it? Remembering that Ahmadinejad is a “twelver” and views himself as faciliting the return of the Mahdi, the object is not victory in military conflict but rather victory in martydom and the glory of the Mahdi’s return. As for Kim Jung-Il….look at him, he’s dying….this assures his place in history.
Here’s the scenario:
1) They place 3, maybe 4 nuclear bombs in geosynchronous orbits: one over the US, another over Europe, one over China, another positioned over Japan. They announce that these are surveillance satellites that are intended to keep an eye on their war-mongering enemies. Indeed, the satellites beam back some sort of optical data….the West will hesitate (will the chinese?). This may be done at a leisurely pace, testing responses as they go.

2) They may or may not target Tel Aviv for small yield nuclear bombardment. But they do prepare to attack from Lebanon, Gaza, West Bank, etc.

3) At a time of their choosing, the orbiting bombs are exploded. The EMP from these blasts knocks out all the unshielded electronics under them. With NATO, American, and Chinese military and civilian control systems rendered useless, think of what happens next.

4) Civil society becomes anarchy as food, water, medical, electrical, police systems collapse.
Russian is free to roam wild in Europe, Balkans, etc. No one to stop them.
America under feckless leadership has no idea how to respond and is preoccupied with domestic chaos.
China, Japan, and the US are thrown into civil disorder and their manufacturing bases are unable to supply the world with the replacement parts needed to rebuild….with few other manufacturing nations available to meet the demands….fights for those replacement parts break out.
N. Korea invades S. Korea successfully.
All the arabian states attack the decapitated Israelis successfull.
Chaos is loose in the world and the Mahdi returns to institute an new era in humankind..

Don’t sweat the small stuff, kids. The big show is just a year or two away.

The NK ‘threat’ is limited. Do you honestly believe we don’t have the capability of knocking out their missiles before they’d do any damage? Of course we do. And ‘Dear Leader’ knows that as well. ANY provocative action on his part would be met with an armada of cruise missiles, many, probably nuclear armed. The war would be over in minutes with NK reduced to a parking lot. NK loves playing the bully on the block…they just need a punch to the mouth to shut them up.

Ms. Rosett:
“Another American president, another North Korean nuclear test.”

And…another observation.

It appears that Joe Biden really must be some sort of psychic.
Here it is, nearly six months into the Age of the Alleged Hawaiian, and here’s the “test” ole Joe was yammering about.

That the Almighty would give the gift of Prophecy to such a babbling idiot should be proof enough that God will have His little jokes.

And it also occurs that should Honolulu get pasted by a NoKo nuke, I guess that would mean that Obama wouldn’t have to worry about producing that vault copy birth certificate he’s been trying so hard to keep hidden.

Unfortunately, people already have died. How quickly so many have forgotten that we have been attacked, multiple times. Like it or not, we are at war. And, if God forbid, a nuke goes off in a major U.S. city, I would not be surprised if our president found a way to blame Israel.

OH! I’m all for nuking out their nukes first but should we have to wait until they nuke us to do so? Sorry if I’m not following your line of thought perfectly. A punch in their mouth would be fine by me, Doc Strangelove!

What worries me is that DohBama has spoken about dismanting OUR nukes supposedly to make ‘goody-goody’ with ‘da world’. Not a good idea, Doh-Boy.

(On the UN web site, that statement is right now dated “May 4, 2009″ — it was actually delivered April 5th; the UN has its dates mixed up, but given the failure of the UN to do anything effective in any case, hey, who cares?).

In Europe the day is always first, the month in the middle. April 5 is 5/4/09

Ed. Note: True, and that’s probably how the mistake began. But in this case the UN did not just reverse the digits; the UN actually spelled out the wrong month, writing: “May 4, 2009.”

27. Delia. It was a one-time policy of the US (under the Strategic Air Command) not to initiate a nuclear war. I suspect it’s still the same. That’s not to say we’d simply sit back and absorb a first-strike if an enemy launch confirmed. That was also 20 years ago when anti-ballistic missile technology was not as sophisticated as it is today. Between naval ships such as the Aegis cruisers, flying command posts and an array of other counter measures, I doubt a NK missile would make it out of their air space before it was knocked down. Personally, the Japanese have a lot more to worry about than we do…

There are reports that Pakistan won’t tell US where its nukes are kept. There are reports that Pakistan is building TWO new reactors to produce plutonium for new weapons. Is it possible that the Khan ‘Islamic Bomb’ trade is back in business? Think about it; Iran tests it’s bomb design in North Korea, Pakistan provides mass production of fuel and then Iran, Syria, Noth Korea and Pakistan go into over-drive. Talk about an ‘axis of evil’.

A “punch in their mouth” i’m afraid isn’t going to cut it…. we’re past that point. You don’t punch someone carrying a gun… its a poor choice of attacks. You see for NK to be kept in check they needed to be punched every 4-8 years… now even a few cruise missiles could due… he problem its a time clock at this point until they really learn how to use their nukes…. once NK nukes are really functional 90% of US presidents aren’t going to want to get into that mess…. and 100% of world leaders won’t either.

To 19. Fantom

Pretty much why I’ve stopped caring… kim will target an insanely leftist city and wipe it out…. I’m not seeing it as a losing bid… much as with SK if they want to roll over and play dead while the speeding car is bearing down on them… why am I to care? And why not throw some nails in the road next to their soon to be corpse… at least then they died for something.

What did we get? North Korea blow up an atomic bomb, Obama stirred and yawned. Then he made a speech to the teleprompter about the dangers of North Korea blowing up an atomic bomb. The teleprompted yawned.

Anyone who thinks they can trust Kim Jong Il to be truthful or do anything other than bolster his own power structure is an idiot. We should never have given concessions to him. It was an attempt to woo others into helping to fight terrorism in Pakistan. Now Obama assumes the same international community that was content to allow the United States to do the fighting to dismantle terror groups is willing to let us go alone, again, and give out billions in what is blackmail to this despot. Any wonder why some of us would like to see the British version of a “no confidence” vote called on this administration?

Well, I’m with ya on that then. Glad we cleared that up. I’m a ‘Duke Nuke ‘em’ kinda gal and I piss a lot of folks off with my ‘kill or be killed’ attitude. I know, not very becoming for a blue-eyed blondie but I yam what I yam.

-But, I live in WA state [unfortch], so don’t be wishin’ those bombs on the Liberal states any time soon cuz some of us patriots are in the ‘blues’ too. Plus, I don’t hate all Liberals [furthest thing from my mind]. That would be like me hating the poor saps who drank Jim Jones’ kool-aid!

..just “screen scrape” it or type in “Voyska PVO”..and thanks for turning me to Caroline’s blog. We need more people like her. Wow! Five years as an officer in the IDF not to mention the rest of her CV. I am impressed.

If it gets too bad here, I am going to convert to Judiasm (my mom was Jewish) and apply for Isreali citizenship. I want to live where a country’s leaders aren’t afraid to stand up for their country like Netanyahu is doing.

I think Carolin Glick is one of the finest minds writing about Israel and the Middle East today. Here is a bit more about her from the bio on the jacket of her book – some things I don’t think are noted in her bio on her website:

The last three years of her five and half as an officer in the army, she was a core member of Israel’s negotiating team with the PLO.

She was later appointed to serve as then Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahus’ assistant foreign policy advisor.

She was among just a small handful of female journalists to be embedded with the US Infantry forces during Operation Iraqi Freedom, reporting from the front lines.

She is a senior fellow for Middle Eastern Affairs at the Center for Security Policy in D.C.

She has also won many awards for her outstanding work.

As for your comment about Israeli leaders not being afraid to stand up for their country, it remains to be seen. Many in Israel are, sadly, as naive as Jews in the United States when it comes to national security.

But, I digress. Glad you like Captain (that was her military rank) Glick’s work. Her site, along with PJM, is one of the few worthy of being bookmarked and read regularly.

BTW, if your Mom was Jewish, you don’t have to convert. Being Jewish is based on the religion of a child’s mother!

Thank you for the info. Good to know. Now I feel bad for the Japanese.

40. Войска ПВО:

“If it gets too bad here, I am going to convert to Judiasm (my mom was Jewish) and apply for Isreali citizenship. I want to live where a country’s leaders aren’t afraid to stand up for their country like Netanyahu is doing.”
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“What did we get? North Korea blow up an atomic bomb, Obama stirred and yawned. Then he made a speech to the teleprompter about the dangers of North Korea blowing up an atomic bomb. The teleprompted yawned.”

Bob, you forgot about the ‘golf’ part too. Can you imagine? Going friggin’ GOLFING after such news? WTF?

Hey Sheesh, did you hear that all of FDR’s problems were caused by Hoover? Every single one of them. For 15 years.

Let me help you, as you can’t seem to recognize that being the smart ass in the back of the room isn’t that productive to any of the dialogues that you join.

How about taking your eyes off the rear view mirror for a while and look forward through the windshield. It would actually be interesting to hear you write something about how our new President should respond to all of those trying (quite successfully, it would appear) to get inside of his OODA loop. What do you think he should do? Let’s hear it, smart guy.

As I’ve said before and will say again, “The lowest form of stupidity is weakness.” Barack Obama is weakness incarnate. This will not go well for us. Whether of not the NK’s were actually staging a proxy test for the Iranians–the Iranians will have a bomb within the year and the best that the Tent Revival Con Man will have to offer is a stern look and a meaningful sounding speech. We will soon be in a world of mutual nuclear blackmail with terror state actors. PS Just to cover my side of the street here, Bush should have done something about this when there was a chance but he was all talk after Iraq turned out to be a real war with real casualties.

Nope, I differ. Peter Principle was the 80′s = promotion to level of incompetence. Dilbert Principle is 90′s & 00′s = promote those who do no useful work immediately to management to get them out of the way. That is the reason for the growth in business schools growing MBA’s in the country.

Chuck Pelto @ 20: “…there’s going to be a mob-scene at the White House.”

That is one of the why’s of the ammo shortage. 80 million gun owners who DO NOT trust the regime in DC.

sheesh @ 24: “Maybe Colin Powell would be a good adviser right about now.”

What does that nutless bugger have to do with any of this? Damn, did you not read my last question to you sheish? Do you know how stupid you are?

I heard what The 0bamanation had to say about the NoKo ‘nuke’ today. He voted present again. He’ll get that sharply worded statement from the UNSC to Jong Il ASAP. THAT should really, really scare them.

Sometime long ago I read a story on the innertubes about a working nuke smuggled into the US via the Tijuana corridor (drove it across in a truck). They set it off in Long Beach. I wish I could find it again.

Right now the rest of the world knows that The 0bamanation and his cronies won’t do sheesh (sheiss?) to stop any of this. They are all too above it all or some such.

“Hmm. I have to wonder why Ron Rosenbaum’s troll post is still on the front page, while Richard Fernandez’ deep meditation on this same important subject has been notched down.

Priorities, please PJM!”
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I think that might be my fault. I’m guesstimating here but I *think* that when people keep posting on a blog’s thread here on PJM it keeps that particular blog on the front page. I’ll zip muh lip on Ron’s free-fall for the rest of the week and let it die into the blogosphere.

How can we do anything that stops this, short of war? That’s the problem that would bug obama or even mccain. Invading N Korea isn’t like taking on Iraq, to do that it could cause tremendous loss of life and stretch the US to its breaking point. We already are fighting a 2 front war.

I commented earlier (comment 37 above) that Caroline Glick had not appeared on PJTV for awhile, but I take that back. I just found a video from May 19 where she talks about the Netanyahu-Obama meeting, among other topics. It’s free and definitely worth viewing.

Also, to posters 40 and 41, Anna and Voyska, Ms. Glick has an outstanding 10+ page occasional paper on the Center for Security Policy site. One of the best appraisals I’ve seen on the “two state solution”–perhaps you have seen it too.

Glick’s article also speaks of Iran’s ties w/ Venezuela which is a serious threat to the US, nevermind Israel, as we face the radical Islamic invasion of our Southern border. Intelligence reports today claim Chavez is supplying Uranium to Iran. The new axis of evil Iran-Venezuela-NK-Syria.

The one way in which Obama and the Democrats generally could begin to repair their security credentials and still maintain their diplomacy-uber-alles approach would be to simply withdraw all American aid from North Korea, and pressuring our allies to do the same. Then North Korea would experience a crisis; it would be forced to rely entirely on China (and Russia); the propoganda about starvation imposed from the West would be fierce.

Nevertheless, it is the case that Communism survived to a surprising extent because of the grain deals and other commercial arrangements between those conspirators and the West. This is also the case of North Korea. Of course they would probably threaten war, but then – in my opinion – they are bluffing: their strategy isn’t to creep toward some minimum offensive nuclear force and then overruning South Korea and nuking California, it’s to act as a perpetual quasi-crisis on behalf of the Moscow-Beijing Axis (like Iran, like Venezuela, like Russia itself) The only way to subvert that strategy is to call the bluff. Obama has the “international popularity” and credibility to do it, and he should.

The one potentialy good/game changing thing that COULD come out of this is a remilitarized Japan. They could very well determine that the US security umbrella is not dependable enough to ensure no reoccurance of a nuclear “man made event.” Both North Korea and China could well find that they have created a potential monster that changes (or at least seriously alters) the balance of power in the region.
I would imagine that our increasingly feckless President is doing nothing other than vicariously encouraging this move on Japan’s part.
With Japan’s technology and industrial base they could have serious deterrent capability in a very short space of time – changing their constitution would be the most problematic issue – but do-able if their citizenry feel genuinely threatened.

46. Robohobo: Sheesh never responds to question except to provide smart-a$$ nonsense (most of it cut-n-pasted). Never any new/good ideas or questions. I tried for a little while but I realized that feeding trolls is pointless.

49. Dblade:
The answer is farly simple. NK’s missles (at least all of the ones that have any respectable range) are liquid-fueled and require launch facilities like our space program, they also takes hours to fuel up and prepare for launch.

We announce, unilaterally, that we will no longer allow them to erect or launch rockets of any size until WE have inspected their country and are happy that they have no nuclear capability.

We announce that we will take military steps to eliminate any missle that we decide is a possible threat. The first time Lil’ Kim puts a missle on a launch platform we send a cruise missle, we repeat this as needed. We also knock down, with conventional explosives, all of the cooling towers and ancilliary buildings associted with NK’s nuke program.

Now all we have to do is find a leader with the stones to undertake that task.

We could easily do the same with Syria and Iran. Sure the UN wouldn’t like us…..but, really, who cares about the opinion of the leaders of Third-World hellholes?

NK, Lil’ Kim is nuts, the ChiComs have a bit of a leash re: the food supply but Kim could care less if a few million of his people starve.

What’s the CIA doing about it?

Dmaned little, under Clinton we gave up on any approach using boots on the ground and depended on sattelites, W was too busy with Islamic Whack Jobs to follow up on NK. Obama thinks that talking nice to people solves all problems.

What are the Europeans doing about it?

Squat, they don’t have the ability to project military power, no carrier fleets, no long-range bombers or UAVs. They have lived so long behind the US’s sheild that they have what amounts to puny “parade armies” and little else. As far as diplomacy, check how well they have done as the lead negotiators regarding Iran’s bomb over the last five years.

What are the NK neighbors doing about it?

Russia is laughing, SK is rolling over and playing dead, Japan is laying the groundwork for rearmament, China is enjoying the distraction caused by Kim, USA is doing nothing (Obama is golfing , Do Not Disturb!) Australia is busy increasing their miltary.

What would NK gain by bombing the USA?

Nothing (but Kim is nuts), they are looking for leverage, not war. The real question should be; Who is NK willing to sell a bomb to? And what would THEY gain by nuking the US?

Chicken Little?

No. Crazy people should not be allowed to play with weapons that have the potential to kill millions. Kim is crazy, nukes can kill millions, bad combo. Something horrible is bound to happen eventually.

We congratulate our Dear Leader on turning the eyes of our glorious kingdom skyward. Our missiles rise and our pride follows…aw, heck, we are just really happy our people are distracted – we have a good chance to reach the Chinese border uneaten!
Sincerely,
Canines of North Korea

Mister Jong-Il,
Your actions of provocation the past few days have left us with no other choice – UN Security Resolution 12342355.678 is hereby passed which effectively calls for:
1. A sharp verbal assault delivered by the POTUS
2. A press conference by UN reps reiterating 1. above
3. A memorandum of 1. above.
4. An immediate suspension of your porno-of-the-month subscription
5. An immediate call for six..make that SEVEN party talks. We will invite the Bulgarians to outflank you AS WELL!
6. An immediate embargo of all canines to the North.
You have been so warned. It is high time you join the community of law-abiding nations.
Sincerely,
The UN Security Council

To Anna (62) and JW (51)- thanks very much for engaging re:Caroline Glick and thanks for the info—I’ve included a link from her most recent interview with Joe Hicks on Pajamas TV which was posted just today (below).

There are several other free interviews which are all good and can be accessed by going to PJTV and clicking on “Middle East” at the top of the page.

Hi,

This is an interesting video from Pajamas TV. You can select the video quality on the left side of the player.

Personally, my own research indicates that TEOTWAWKI begins sometime this fall. Sometime from mid-September to early November. Several of the scenarios listed earlier in the thread are almost certain to play out as described, or variations thereof. It isn’t a matter of “if,” just a matter of “when.”

I’m also pretty certain that sometime this year, or early next year, that the US will experience something resembling a “John Brown” moment or a “Boston Massacre” moment, as well. Currently, I’m leaning towards extensive rioting in America beginning in late June or early July of this year. I know that the rioting will occur – it’s inevitable – but nailing down the timing is problematic.

Susan (post68). Wow, Glicks interview on PJTV is indeed scary & important stuff. It is must see viewing for all concerned about the immediate survival of Western civilization. Yes, that serious. Wish Fox TV & other MSM would feature it, too. The world, under the delusional influence of the Obama administration, needs a big wake-up call.

Obama, his cabinet of academic theorists and token brass lack the experience & gumption for confrontations of this nature. The Bush Doctrine attempted to insure that overt & formal saber rattling gestures invited harsh consequences. The abandonment of such doctrine has been met with immediate and decisive challenges from the proponents of World War III. Our experience with humanity these past 70 years has taught us not to stare into the headlights of an oncoming death train like petrified deer waiting to be pulverized? Has our leadership learned that same lesson?

To JW: Thanks so much for your post (with full address of video)— I’m glad you viewed it! I’ve never seen Caroline Glick so outraged and so adamant in her statement that Israel would not fail to act. It was indeed a wake-up call– like no other I’ve seen.

The question is this: how can we further educate our communities–and quickly–about the devastating consequences of Obama/Clinton’s clear acceptance of a nuclear Iran?

Thanks to Claudia Rosett also for lighting the fire with her excellent article!

I’ve yet to run into a single (sober) person who could look me in the eye and say that they expect darling Obambi of the brother-handshake-with-Chavez and the waist-deep-bow-to-the-arab-king to actually take a single concrete military action.

I’m pretty sure that the boys in Moscow and Peking are falling off their chairs laughing … to say nothing of the mad mullahs of Persia.