Oh well he killed Isabella. But Tabitha killed Penguin mom I didn't see anyone care when she died in the show. Oh but Isabella wow u care about so much. Let's not forget Edward killed Kringle and she favor Kringle big deal. Oswald deserve love he the best penguin him and Danny devito

Something tells me that she or her group won't get as far as being leader. Now that she's brought Nygma into the fold, something tells me that he'll use her and Butch and Tabitha to take down Penguin, then after that, he'll betray her group. Nygma's too smart for them and likely has his own plan.

Sir Christopher Lee said once that being stabbed in the back doesn't make people scream in pain, because their breathe is cut short and they just suffocate. He told that to Peter Jackson when they shot the scene where Grima kills Saruman by stabbing him in the back.

When I watch this scene, I realized in Ed's thoughts he was stabbing Oswald in the back. It is kind of representing the pain that Ed felt when Oswald killed Isabella. Basically to Ed, Oswald was a backstabber.

This is great news because the guy is brilliant in the role 👍 Steals every scene and is just so watchable! Even though he isn't exactly the Joker, I still think he is better than Jared Leto's Joker in Suicide Squad.

Aww man. I'm eager to see what Nygma plans to now do to Penguin now that he knows. Not too sure I like him teaming up with Barbara, Butch and Tabitha, but we'll see how it goes. Barbara obviously knows how to stroke Ed's ego.

I'm more excited for Jerome's return honestly, he can show all of them what crazy really is, they could even do the skin bleaches thing as part of the revival process, could easily have an early years joker

Alfred last night stabbing that dude in the throat. Like, what was Alfred's resume when he applied to be a butler: "I can cook, clean, and brutally murder those who threaten you...provided you don't walk down a dark alley alone" LOL

Seriously. Are they really bringing back Jerome? I'm so excited. Because when they killed him off I was so mad. But let me just say I'm a huge fan of the Joker. And the actor they hired is so awesome. Can't wait for January.

This was by far one of the best episodes, so good!!! I was freaking out, watching Falcone's meeting with the Owl's, Enigma torturing the wrongfully accused Butch and Tabitha and how Barbara put two and two together. I can't wait for the next episode..... How is Penguin going to get out of this with his head still attached lol.... simply Wow!

When Valerie and Lee was taken hostage, Mario tried to sneak and shoot Jarvis but his guns were not loaded, Tetch then asked one of his men to take Mario out, maybe that was the time he was injected with the blood, because in the next episode when Jim was hallucinating Mario had a band aid on his neck area, just a guess though, 😁