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Full T1 Line, network compromised of nothing but switches running either 1000mpbs or 100mbps.

We are still compromising a full list of all the games we are going to offer but if anybody has some other suggestions on anything post up. I'de really love to hear all the different opinions and get a better understanding of what different customers want.

Infinite: We got some pretty nice deals on 1000mb switches, the NIC's themselves are dirt cheap, and the cat5 cable is the same price no matter what. All in all in only ended up costing a few dollars more.

Crime: what do you mean just PC's? We do have a 50" hdvt, 2 ps2's, and possibly one or two arcade games (not sure if we got um or not). The main focus is going to be PC gaming though.

Make sure to keep us filled in on how it goes. I hope to do this if we ever get some retail space.

I would suggest coming up with something for tournaments. Hosting a tournament say ever month or two months. Advertise with flyers @ college campuses, B/N, coffeehouses, other places.

You can get a feel for interested people. Pick a popular game. Have a cheap entry free and a not so bad prize. Ex. give them a little money, hardware and say a bunch of free playing hours at your place.

You can contact related area businesses and see if they will sponsor tournaments. (Sell you the games/hardware at cheaper prices in exchange for being featured in ads about tournament). Helps save alot of money. Some even pay part of advertising costs.

Jon: The tournament thing is exactly what we are going to do. Once a week have a tourney and a big one every 3 - 6 months. Prizes will range from video cards, free game time, rice mods for computers. We haven't worked out the exact details about the tournaments like what game each week and so on but the entry fee will be small and and early sing up discount will also be available.

Infinite: We got some pretty nice deals on 1000mb switches, the NIC's themselves are dirt cheap, and the cat5 cable is the same price no matter what. All in all in only ended up costing a few dollars more.

cat5 won't do gigabit ethernet. OK, well it will, but your asking for all kinds of trouble if you do that. cat5e, maybe on a good day. cat6 is the bare minimun I would recommend as a network engineer (so I got one year left in my diploma :p ), I wouldn't use less unless you want to deal with all the phyiscal layer shit that is just no fun.

I'm sure you don't plan to, but don't use Blizzard games. You probably know about their lameass Metallicock-like licensing bullshit.

A local gaming center has free events like showing of movies. Besides the hourly rate, they have all day passes, and a bring your own computer deal.

You definately have to have Half-life (with Counter-Strike mod), BF1942, and UT2K3. These are the top 3 games there and among my gaming peers. I am sure you plan on having them anyway.

I also recommend that star wars game (I don't play it or care about it, but I know several people that do), HL2 when it comes out, and D3 when it comes out.

Sell energy drinks and snacks. UL (the local center) only sells Bawls in the way of energy drinks, I think this is a mistake although they probably get them cheaper because of their contract. Red Bull, Omega , and KMX are good choices to me. (Selling them at a flat 2.25 sounds nice) I think a case of energy drinks, or a variety pack, would make a great prize. About a 50 dollar value, that would easily be covered by the entry fees. Energy mints would be a good seller I think, but of course, not as fast as drinks. X-IT , Warp , and Penguin mints are all good choices (with the exception of Green-T mints by Warp, they are shit.)

They also sell snacks that you can eat at the computer, but you'll get in trouble if you dirty up the place or equipment. You aren't allowed to smoke or bring food in.

Put out ads on local radio stations, especially the college station. And also, until things pick up, have your friends game for free to make it look a little more popular and to keep people from showing up and playing by themselves.

One last thing before I stop overwhelming you with what I would like to see in a gaming center:Offer maps (for CS and such) that are exclusive to your center. Of course, you wouldn't be able to run them on a server open to internet players or (if people like the maps enough) servers will start popping up with your "exclusive" maps on them. I recently started mapping in CS, it took less than a week to get the hang of Valve Hammer Editor (with the help of tutorials) and make 2 maps that I feel are complete. I don't know about other games, but this seems like a free way to offer something other gaming centers don't have.

Keep us up to date. Give us a website link if you can, or if you don't have a website, maybe someone on this site could design one for you. (for free, don't pay someone 800 dollars for a decent site)

You are soooo correct when it comes to blizzard. It's like $5000 for 3 years + $10 per cd. Since we really wanted some blizzard games (warcraft3/starcraft) we kept at it and found a better deal. $500 for 1 year, 1 game license + the cost of the game. So instead we are going to do two of those through blizzard in order to offer more games. We might get diablo 2 after the initial month of being open as well.

Valve (half life, cs, etc) we got a decent deal with and the licensing automatically gets us HL2 when it comes out (FReeeebbieeee). The cost of the license was almost worth it just for that.

Other games we are planning on having is ut2k3, MOHAAS, Soldier of furtune, BF1942 and more after the first few months of opening.

I never really thought about actual energy drinks, mainly only regular sodas (coke, mnt.dew, etc) but that's a great idea. Once we get our re-sellers permit I'll be looking into how much those things cost (might even just buy um at a store). Good call on the prize giveaway also.

Marketing is going to be our biggest struggle I think. For right now we are getting a "comming soon" banner that we can put up outside the store while we are working on everything, and we are also going to get a "now open" one that we can put up there after we are open. From experience those seem to pull people in well. We are going to try to get air time through radio stations n'stuff but me not knowing where to begin down that road I'm worried we might not get any plugs. Besides those we are planning on having "coupon" ads, like 10 - 20% off if you bring it in or something along those lines and getting ads places in highschool & college newspapers (it's usually free).

I've made ut2k3 maps before, I'll do one after we are open.

I'm working on the web site right now actually. http://www.deliriumgaming.com unfortunatly you can't see anything except for comming soon I'm almost done though, just gotta finish up a few more things and it'll be set to go.

I'd hold off on the weekly tournies until things really pick up. The monthlies could rotate what game you do. CS one month, UT2k3 the next, etc. You could have a Team Tournament and an Individual Tournament, although for CS and BF1942 you would have to do team rotation and such, something special so that the individual deserves the prize.

You could have the tournies at the beginning of each month. After the winner is announced, you could give the details of the next tourny. I suggest you mix it up a little, like: UT2k3, but with the Quadjump, Vampire, and Arena mutators on. You could list the maps that will be played, except for the maps that will be played in the subfinal and final rounds. The final round could be an exclusive map that was only tested internally. This way, no one-map-whores shouldn't win.

The entry fees for team's could be based on how many members they have, but you'd have to have a range for teams. For CS it could be 8-12, or have different sized tournaments. That could be another thing you change.

You could use the big screen TVs to show the top player(s) point of view. More people coming to watch, more people buying your milkshakes.

Another suggestion: The only two places that would NOT benefit from a milkshake machine are Hell and Arizona. I think that Banana, Coffee, and Chocolate milkshakes would sell. If you can work something out, or it is already legal, you could make Starbucks Doubleshot milkshakes, or Frappachino milkshakes.

I'll edit this post with an image explaining how I think a UT2k3 Individual tournament should work.

coldsunGood point about waiting for the weekly tournys till things pick up. What about every other week? We don't plan to be SUPER slow in the beggining so we want to be able to offer as much as possible to make the best first impression we can.

I'll be taking all your tournament suggestions and incorporating them into ours. I already had some ideas about how they were set up/organized but wasn't positive I was on the right track. Your suggestions tell me I am.

As far as the TV's go we are going to have a multimedia projector mounted on the ceiling that will have the ps2, cable, and computers hooked up to it. We'll pretty much always have it on and displaying games, etc.

I dunno about the milkshake idea but we will have a re-sellers permit so we can sell those cold starbucks drinks not a problem. Right now we had in mind just sodas/powerdrinks but if the other guys think it might work we'll go for it. The thing is our target customer base is middle school & highschool so I don't think many of them drink coffee based drinks.

jonI'll keep this as up-to-date as I can. Once we start putting all the computers, networks, etc together I'm going to be extremely busy.

CrimeDelirium GamingSneak peek at the website http://www.deliriumgaming.com/html/Don't laugh at it...it's not even CLOSE to being done. I just wanted to get the basic portions of it in there so I can edit them later on without worrying to much about anything else.

UpdatesWe finished our final purchase list and are expecting to get the retail space with-in 1 - 3 days. From then we are going to order all our stuff and put it all together. I'll be moving to Sacramento for this damn place.

for the tournaments use a knockout ladder and dont just give a prize to 1st place. have lots of snacks(nuthin worse than being hungry as shit when ur tring to play). get old arcades like super mario, contra etc. good luck this idea sounds like the shit!

I would think college kids would be the biggest demographic for gaming places, but at the one here they are high school and middle, like you say. If UL sold Red Bull or Omega, I would buy two every time I went. Milkshakes, well, everyone loves milkshakes. Haha, I don't know, it was just one of those things. Maybe I am the only one that loves milkshakes, I just wish more places here sold them. Like, my bedroom.

If I liked the place (and lived near it) I would try to attend the biweekly tournaments. If things pick up fast, I say go for it. I don't think I have the best way of doing a tournament, but for a 32 player UT2k3 tourny, this is how I would do it: