Looks nice OP, am I correct that this (below) is a free update to the preview version of office that gives it a final version that includes office & excel? Want to be sure there is nothing else to buy except keyboard. Thanks!

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2748583

BucknifeJones

Member

posted: Jun. 1, 2014 @ 6:16p

I have never used the office suite on my RT tablet. Maybe One Note for a few basic lists. Nice to know its there though.

Xbox360Gamer714

New Member

posted: Jun. 1, 2014 @ 7:30p

Beware of seller. Lots of negative feedback regarding these tablets and others.

Absolute BS.These guys are great! I have bought five tablets so far from them. Had one DOA and they responded immediately and resolved the issue as fast as could be expected. You really do not know what the H you are talking about.

Xbox360Gamer714 said: Beware of seller. Lots of negative feedback regarding these tablets and others. 98.8% positive(28k reviews) looks pretty darn good to me. Also, I seem to recall from an earlier thread that this seller is a personal acquaintance of one of FWs long time trusted member.

cr3s

Handsome Member

posted: Jun. 1, 2014 @ 8:52p

Yuyak said: Xbox360Gamer714 said: Beware of seller. Lots of negative feedback regarding these tablets and others. 98.8% positive(28k reviews) looks pretty darn good to me. Also, I seem to recall from an earlier thread that this seller is a personal acquaintance of one of FWs long time trusted member. which thread is that?

tyguide

Senior Member

posted: Jun. 1, 2014 @ 9:56p

If there was a unresolved problem, eBay/paypal resolution is a hassle, but a no brainer. You can certainly get funds back from a merchant this big if it really came to that.

eBay resolution center is simple. You have to allow time for the other party to give an answer.

ordinaryhuman

Member

posted: Jun. 3, 2014 @ 9:18a

Hate to ask, but is there a discussion around here talking about the differences between the RT and the Pro? I've read a lot of misc comments here and there...just curious. thanks

cr3s

Handsome Member

posted: Jun. 3, 2014 @ 9:24a

ordinaryhuman said: Hate to ask, but is there a discussion around here talking about the differences between the RT and the Pro? I've read a lot of misc comments here and there...just curious. thanks yeah. Pro runs the regular version of Windows.

RT runs the portable version. Those two are not compatible.

comprx

Senior Member - 5K

posted: Jun. 3, 2014 @ 11:32a

tyguide said: Looks nice OP, am I correct that this (below) is a free update to the preview version of office that gives it a final version that includes office & excel? Want to be sure there is nothing else to buy except keyboard. Thanks!

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2748583 Yes, you will get the office update that includes outlook. Looks and feels like the regular windows version. There are a few limitations (no macros), but for a tablet OS, it is pretty capable.

Morro

Member

posted: Jun. 3, 2014 @ 12:17p

The USB is very limited. I think it's printers and input devices only.

Morro

Member

posted: Jun. 3, 2014 @ 12:18p

Xbox360Gamer714 said: Beware of seller. Lots of negative feedback regarding these tablets and others. I bought a couple of tablets from them. No problems at all. Microsoft honored the warranty when one of the tablets stopped charging.

ordinaryhuman said: Hate to ask, but is there a discussion around here talking about the differences between the RT and the Pro? I've read a lot of misc comments here and there...just curious. thanks * The RT uses an ARM processor and the Pro uses a standard intel x64 (x86 compatible) processor. * The RT runs Windows RT while the Pro runs standard Windows 8 * Both versions include Microsoft Office, the Windows desktop and assorted tools (command prompt, batch file processing) and Internet Explorer with the Flash plug-in

What this means for the user is that the RT can only install those programs that are available on the Windows Store while the Pro can install and run *any* standard Windows program. This means that things like iTunes will *not* install/run on the RT but will install/run on the Pro.

The benefits of the RT are many including* Lower price* Less susceptible to viruses targeted at the x86 platforms* Easy management refresh/restore of operating system.* Full, Flash enabled browser

The *sole* "con" of the RT is that you can't just buy any old piece of software off the shelf and install it. You MUST go through the Windows app store in a manner similar what you would the Apple app store on an iPad. This means that user plug-ins for IE are excluded as well, so for example the Silverlight plug-in can't be installed (which ticks me off, but isn't a deal breaker).

The Windows RT tablets are *extremely* useful depending upon what you want/need it for. For some, the lack of being able to install any arbitrary software is limiting. For others, it is liberating because for the most part if you need something it is available for free in the app store already or at a very minimal cost. Since IE plug-ins can't be installed, you don't have to worry about "drive by" installation of malware and viruses and you can pretty much rely on the integrity of the browser code. The version of Office supplied with the RT models isn't a *full* version of Office (missing advanced features like VBA), but the features that are missing are some of the more advanced/obscure ones that most home users don't need. I've not found a single thing that I use in Excel or Word that isn't available in the RT version of Office.

ViveLeRoi said: ordinaryhuman said: Hate to ask, but is there a discussion around here talking about the differences between the RT and the Pro? I've read a lot of misc comments here and there...just curious. thanks * The RT uses an ARM processor and the Pro uses a standard intel x64 (x86 compatible) processor. * The RT runs Windows RT while the Pro runs standard Windows 8 * Both versions include Microsoft Office, the Windows desktop and assorted tools (command prompt, batch file processing) and Internet Explorer with the Flash plug-in

What this means for the user is that the RT can only install those programs that are available on the Windows Store while the Pro can install and run *any* standard Windows program. This means that things like iTunes will *not* install/run on the RT but will install/run on the Pro.

The benefits of the RT are many including* Lower price* Less susceptible to viruses targeted at the x86 platforms* Easy management refresh/restore of operating system.* Full, Flash enabled browser

The *sole* "con" of the RT is that you can't just buy any old piece of software off the shelf and install it. You MUST go through the Windows app store in a manner similar what you would the Apple app store on an iPad. This means that user plug-ins for IE are excluded as well, so for example the Silverlight plug-in can't be installed (which ticks me off, but isn't a deal breaker).

The Windows RT tablets are *extremely* useful depending upon what you want/need it for. For some, the lack of being able to install any arbitrary software is limiting. For others, it is liberating because for the most part if you need something it is available for free in the app store already or at a very minimal cost. Since IE plug-ins can't be installed, you don't have to worry about "drive by" installation of malware and viruses and you can pretty much rely on the integrity of the browser code. The version of Office supplied with the RT models isn't a *full* version of Office (missing advanced features like VBA), but the features that are missing are some of the more advanced/obscure ones that most home users don't need. I've not found a single thing that I use in Excel or Word that isn't available in the RT version of Office.

There is a Youtube video that shows many more of the benefits of the RT: www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VYf5MWyTn8Very nice summary. Couple other major (in my opinion) advantages for the RT is it weighs significantly less and has a much longer batter life due to the ARM processor.

I would've gotten one of these a long time ago, if only Microsoft came out with WMC for it (or better yet, xbmc app). Oh well.

kiteguru

Senior Member

posted: Jun. 4, 2014 @ 6:50p

Here is my honeymoon with Surface..-No other browser option. Lots of popups..Each takes 2 second to get rid of.-3 hours of update within 4 days after using 4 times with a total of 45 minutes.-You need to deal with registry tweaks etc in order to stream to your TV-Keyboard does not get activated when you select a test field. If the text field is in the middle of the screen it goes behind the keyboard.-It also does not come with PC connection cable.Power adapter is a single solid piece.

If you DO NOT have a docking station stay away from Windows Tablets unless you need excel/powerpoint.

rootbear

Cranky Member

posted: Jun. 4, 2014 @ 7:11p

kiteguru said: Here is my honeymoon with Surface..-No other browser option. Lots of popups..Each takes 2 second to get rid of.-3 hours of update within 4 days after using 4 times with a total of 45 minutes.-You need to deal with registry tweaks etc in order to stream to your TV-Keyboard does not get activated when you select a test field. If the text field is in the middle of the screen it goes behind the keyboard.-It also does not come with PC connection cable.Power adapter is a single solid piece.

If you DO NOT have a docking station stay away from Windows Tablets unless you need excel/powerpoint. My experience along with two of my friends (we use these at work)

1. have had no pop-up issues at all. Must be the sites you browse maybe?2. did all my updates at home in front of the TV first night I got it. Now it's no different than my Win 8 Pro desktop for updates.3. I use this for work. I stream TV on a proper laptop.4. I do not understand this at all. I have had no keyboard issues.5. What do you need a PC connection cable?6. For this - email, browsing regarding work stuff (commodity markets) and MS office for under $200?? Works great for me.

kiteguru

Senior Member

posted: Jun. 4, 2014 @ 9:30p

rootbear said: kiteguru said: Here is my honeymoon with Surface..-No other browser option. Lots of popups..Each takes 2 second to get rid of.-3 hours of update within 4 days after using 4 times with a total of 45 minutes.-You need to deal with registry tweaks etc in order to stream to your TV-Keyboard does not get activated when you select a test field. If the text field is in the middle of the screen it goes behind the keyboard.-It also does not come with PC connection cable.Power adapter is a single solid piece.

If you DO NOT have a docking station stay away from Windows Tablets unless you need excel/powerpoint. My experience along with two of my friends (we use these at work)

1. have had no pop-up issues at all. Must be the sites you browse maybe?2. did all my updates at home in front of the TV first night I got it. Now it's no different than my Win 8 Pro desktop for updates.3. I use this for work. I stream TV on a proper laptop.4. I do not understand this at all. I have had no keyboard issues.5. What do you need a PC connection cable?6. For this - email, browsing regarding work stuff (commodity markets) and MS office for under $200?? Works great for me.I guess you've read everything thoroughly yet skipped the following "If you DO NOT have a docking station stay away from Windows Tablets unless you need excel/powerpoint."

There is something called "customer value". For most excel and powerpoint does not add much value to this tablet. For someone who uses CRM (New version was optimized for Windows tablets) and who needs some excel work done (other than viewing) it's worth $500 and it's a killer deal.

Yes keyboard does not automatically popup in old school windows mode when you want to add a key in regedit in order to stream to a 12 months old Samsung TV. (It said it was not verified). Give it a try unless one of numerous updates fixed it, it should still be a problem. You need to do a start>run>regedit and try to add a key. As a customer I want simple things right at the first time.

And yes I am a single healthy guy and I do watch porn. What's wrong with that? Per this 75% men are lying about watching it. Add a reasonable % that does not lie on top of this number.Users on fatwallet should always avoid personal conflicts or finger pointing. My feedback may not apply to every user's expectation but it might be just what someone else is looking for.

This is a great value for the price. You can bundle touch cover for $29 from this seller (available now but color changes from time to time). Touch cover needs some practice.

IE is good in metro mode but I face one small issue. If we press back button, it takes few seconds to go back. I think IE loads the page again if you press back button. Normal browsers go back instantly. Strange issue even after windows 8.1 update.

HD streaming is great. No issues. If we open too many tabs, IE will refresh each tabs. If you have videos paused, it may suddenly start playing. Little annoying at times but remember that it has just 2GB RAM.

Typed this on surface RT using touch keyboard. Cool tablet for a great price.

The best build quality for such a low price. This looks brand new in box although it is tagged as refurbished. MS seems to be clearing stocks and my be actually giving away new tablets labelled as refurb.

I have a license for the PC version of Windows 8. Can I use it to upgrade Windows RT in this tablet to the regular Windows 8 or 8.1?

chuckster

Senior Member

posted: Jun. 6, 2014 @ 9:27a

No. It's not a licensing issue. The RT has an ARM processor and can't run the regular Intel Windows 8/8.1. If you want that capability, you need to purchase a Surface Pro. (There is an emulator available called Win86Emu that can run some regular Windows programs. Link)

dedicke

Thrifty Member

posted: Jun. 6, 2014 @ 10:59a

Morro said: The USB is very limited. I think it's printers and input devices only. Shut up you blathering idiot. You have no idea what you are talking about.

dedicke

Thrifty Member

posted: Jun. 6, 2014 @ 11:00a

Morro said: Xbox360Gamer714 said: Beware of seller. Lots of negative feedback regarding these tablets and others. I bought a couple of tablets from them. No problems at all. Microsoft honored the warranty when one of the tablets stopped charging. I had one with a problem (I have purchased many) and they PAY FOR RETURN SHIPPING and refunded immediately once they received it back.

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