]]>By: 4d3fecthttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/11/source-associated-with-ryan-braun-says-positive-test-was-for-prohibited-substance-not-ped/comment-page-1/#comment-234626
Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:01:07 +0000http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=102741#comment-234626NOW?
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Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:01:05 +0000http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=102741#comment-234625Let the record state that every athletes initial response ha always been im innocent
]]>By: Old Gatorhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/11/source-associated-with-ryan-braun-says-positive-test-was-for-prohibited-substance-not-ped/comment-page-1/#comment-234621
Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:47:42 +0000http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=102741#comment-234621After the weenter meetings ended, it felt like a news slump set in. Minor league contracts, rule 5 pickups for double-A teams, spin doctoring for the abandoned fan bases, and the hot stove simmering like the Shabbos stove in Borough Park. Yawn. Now this. After the partying, then the slump, this was like waking up to a bad hangover.

Ah well. Post coitum triste omni est, you know?

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Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:38:00 +0000http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=102741#comment-234619We should all just take a chill pill and wait. Which is why MLB didn’t go public yet. The data wasn’t in yet. Have to say ESPN maybe should have not rushed to get the scoop.
]]>By: sarcastickshttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/11/source-associated-with-ryan-braun-says-positive-test-was-for-prohibited-substance-not-ped/comment-page-1/#comment-234616
Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:33:58 +0000http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=102741#comment-234616The way I understand it, baseball’s PED policy is strict liability. This means that no matter what the label says or what your doctor says, if it’s on the prohibited list and you test positive for it, you’re guilty. Prohibited substances generally fall into the following categories: they’re either performance enhancing, drugs that mask performance enhancing drugs, drugs that aid in cycling off performance enhancing drugs, or illegal drugs of abuse (like cocaine). They’re prohibited for a reason: they either aid in performance enhancement, or are unhealthy and illegal. There are many things Braun could have taken that is technically not a performance enhancer (masking agents, for example). But they are prohibited for good cause. I do admit it’s unfair that as soon as a report comes out that says Braun tests postive for a banned substance everyone assumes his injecting straight steroids into his ass cheek, but that’s the life he’s chosen. He gets paid well, and the scrutiny, passion, emotion and unfairness comes with it. If he’s exonerated from any wrongdoing, he will suffer no baseball penalties. His reputation may suffer, but once again, that’s simply a reality of the life he has chosen.
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Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:21:37 +0000http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=102741#comment-234613They tested and retested then made their findings known to the public. Now we have self serving words coming from Braun’s camp that mean nothing. MLB just doesn’t come out and announce positive steroid test results agains the reigning MVP without just cause.
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Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:03:28 +0000http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=102741#comment-234609CONTRACT THE BREWERS! THEY ARE CHEATERS!
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Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:41:52 +0000http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=102741#comment-234606Its BS you dont get SYNTHETIC Testosterone in your system by something you took from GNC or ate. The only way you get that substances in your system is by taking steroids. Not some banned diaretic or star caps. Synthetic testosterone is a controlled substance so no company would put it in there over the counter product. So either he did it knowingly or someone didnt tell him what he was taking. And I highly doubt someone switched his vitamins with d-bol .
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Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:35:54 +0000http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=102741#comment-234603They have a damn 1-800 number up and running 24 hours a day that they can call. If they don’t do due diligence then it’s on them.
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Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:35:06 +0000http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=102741#comment-234602While there are lots of folks (mostly self-righteous HOF voters) who believe “prohibitive substance” = “Steroids/PEDs”, it really doesn’t.

Is Braun an idiot if he took a prohibitive substance? Absolutely. Does it mean he’s a cheater? Absolutely not.

I’ll wait to condemn ESPN until more facts come out, but Braun should sue if the ESPN report is BS

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Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:34:23 +0000http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=102741#comment-234601Lol, how is it defamation? Prohibited substance, performance enhancing substance, whatever. All semantics. He took something he was prohibited from taking, a clear violation of the league’s drug policy and is indeed facing a possible 50 game suspension.

You could sue alll day but you’d lose every damn time.

]]>By: roadtrip3500http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/11/source-associated-with-ryan-braun-says-positive-test-was-for-prohibited-substance-not-ped/comment-page-1/#comment-234599
Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:32:53 +0000http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=102741#comment-234599Likely another player who decided to stop by GNC for something without checking the MLB banned-ingredient list. Just because Braun may have taken what he thought was a supplement (or even just a cold remedy) does not excuse him from the ignorance of its ingredients. The product he took may not be a “traditional” PED, but one ingredient can indeed be classed as such.

Players in all the leagues have been constantly told, before you take something, clear it with the trainers and team doctors first. Better yet, players should take the responsibility of educating themselves with what’s banned and what “common” products contain them. But we all know how well players hold themselves accountable for their own actions…

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Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:32:52 +0000http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=102741#comment-234598No way he said that… cause if he was so cocky to say something like that it would be Ryan “Fucking” Braun.. no question about it
]]>By: paperlionshttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/11/source-associated-with-ryan-braun-says-positive-test-was-for-prohibited-substance-not-ped/comment-page-1/#comment-234597
Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:29:25 +0000http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=102741#comment-234597While that may be the general model of their rumor mongers and talking heads, OTL has never used that approach, they do actual investigative reporting…..and this was reported by OTL.
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Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:27:44 +0000http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=102741#comment-234596“I swear baby, it’s really THIS big. You can trust me, I’m Ryan Braun”
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Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:21:44 +0000http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=102741#comment-234593Holy crap, I’d be pissed if I was him (pun intended). ESPN needs to be accountable for that story if it turns out that its something like little more than 2nd hand smoke THC (a la Ross Rebagliati *wink, nudge* 2nd hand smoke..riiiight Ross, sure…). Considering how reaction has gone without the full information being available I’d say he’s been pretty defamed.
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Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:10:57 +0000http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=102741#comment-234590“[T]he source says there has “never” been a result like this in the history of the MLB testing program.”

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Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:06:49 +0000http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=102741#comment-234589These tests are usually very accurate. Lets all wait for the retesting to be done before we make any Final judgements. I would not be surprised if they are just trying to protect him and his records.
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Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:06:43 +0000http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=102741#comment-234588Pissed. I get it.
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Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:01:19 +0000http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=102741#comment-234586That’s ESPN’s game. Report first, then maybe later they’ll decide to report actual facts. It really is a network of scumbags now.
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