And this is another example of why I wonder if there can ever be any value in talking with a Trump supporter. This illustrates how fact adverse many Trump cult members really are. They wonder why people claim Trump lies.

Now, I don't believe that claim at all. I mean, no one could be that clueless. Could they? It would take a lot of willful ignorance to have avoided the documentation of Trump lies. A simple google search for "Trump lies since taking office" brings up millions of hits. Here is one:

I have trouble believing anyone could have avoided learning that Trump is a hopeless liar - willful or not. Instead, I am inclined to believe that Trump cult members have simply adapted the behavior of their cult leader and choose to lie about everything.