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Th3J35t3r on Krypt3ia – AKA Scot Terban

Michael Johnson Perhaps Terban’s main contention is Jester risks becoming a thorn in the side of those trying to gather intelligence on the Jihad nutters, and more importantly, guys with a proper strategy for dealing with whoever’s behind the forums/sites.

Do you have a strategy, Jester? Or are you going to play whack-a-mole indefinitely? Don’t lower yourself to the script kiddy level. You’re smarter than that.
2 years ago

Chuckling ABit First of all, how much credibility does this guy have at this point, when he is saying things like this:

He also uncritically accepts any claims that would undermine Jester’s credibility, yet refuses to accept even evidenced claims by Jester. He changes his mind regarding which attacks are impressive and which attacks matter, seemingly based on how annoyed with Jester he is at that moment.

Secondly, it’s like I said to Scot weeks ago. “Finally, I can’t help but raise an eyebrow to your reasoning that seems to be: if an op doesn’t end in 100% success and complete victory it is more or less useless.” and “From the perspective of someone who watches young, interested folk drool over the ‘super-leet’ exploits of Anonymous and Lulzsec, I think ‘his work’ would be valuable even *if* it was in part a [multi-person] psyop, provided they don’t [claim] anything provably false.” (here: http://krypt3ia.wordpress.com/2012/03/14/th3j35t3r-dont-dox-the-man-dox-the-actions/ )

There are many different (potentially related) objectives the pursuit of which would justify Jester’s actions. He could be trying to inspire patriotism in our country among general folks. He could be giving young adults and teenagers an alternative hacker to root for. He could be trying to corral jihadists into certain online spaces. He could be diverting their resources from whatever jihadist forum admin usually do to cleaning up after his attacks. He could be baiting their online cyber-warfare supporters to focus on him instead of other important targets. I could go on and on.

Furthermore, I am sick and tired of seeing this nonsensical “script kiddie” accusation. Why don’t you (and Scot) define it for all of us. From the attacks Jester has published, it is absolutely obvious that he doesn’t fall into the category most would define as “script kiddie.” So please enlighten us. Or stop making that claim. Pick one.
2 years ago

Michael Johnson Well, I call a spade a spade, but am pretty sparing with the ‘script kiddy’ accusation these days, given the number of high-profile firms getting spectacularly owned, and even if those were through automated exploits. But that’s another matter.

Maybe there are other definitions for ‘hacktivists’ who’s hobby amounts to running denial of service scripts, but I can’t really think of any.
2 years ago

Chuckling ABit You’re either not calling a spade a spade, or you’re not informed.

Let me help out. A “script kiddy”, according to wikipedia:

“is a derogatory term used to describe those who use scripts or programs developed by others to attack computer systems and networks and deface websites”

Perhaps you’re not be up to date on his claimed exploits. You might want to read his blog prior to making accusations. I don’t have time to iterate through all of his attacks in detail, but he has developed his own toolset to attack his targets. This ranges from *writing* scripts and other software to help manage his attacks, to updating and modifying known exploits to work with updated software, to embedding attack code in his enemies toolsets, to writing code to extract targeted data from an enemy, etc. He is not only “using scripts or programs developed by others to attack computers.” Ergo, he’s not a script kiddie.

This has become so frustrating. “You’re a script kiddie” has replaced “I don’t much like you.” It’s ok if you don’t like him or his methods, but let’s not pervert our language.
2 years ago

Michael Johnson In fact, I did follow him on Twitter for the better half of a year. I didn’t say whether I like him or not, and perhaps we have certain things in common. My point is a strategy is needed, if he’s really intent on taking on Al Qaida or whatever, rather than causing a little disruption.
2 years ago

Chuckling ABit Definitely a good point, I agree and I hope he does have a sufficient strategy.
2 years ago

Leon Jester Kindly refer to The Jester **as** The Jester or his nom d’plume th3j35t3r, not “Jester”.

There are those of us who actually **have** the surname Jester who don’t appreciate being mis-identified.

Leon Jester
USA
2 years ago

Chuckling ABit hahah what?!

I think it’s rather clear from the context who is being referred to, Leon. When I refers to Mr Smith in an article about Paul Smith, I have not had the experience of all of the many Mr Smiths in the world commenting and asking why I mis-identified them.

But I have no problem making changes to accomodate a truly bizarre request, *if* it really is troubling you for some insane reason. I’ll try to remember.
2 years ago

Leon Jester Thank you, sir.
2 years ago

Don Jackson …anyone even consider they’re both acting like teenage girls? One, as you say wants to be a “glory hog” and the other already is.
2 years ago