I wonder what the implications are for people that are paying for health insurance...

Yes, and also people who get health insurance/benefits through work. I would be pissed if I had to pay full price instead of a co-pay. Seems like the doctor is just a little pissed at how long it takes them to get paid probably lol.

Just a curious question on the health care in USA. I know that it is largely based on health insurance and private health care facilities, but what implications will Obamacare have to the common man?

Just wondering since it was deemed controversial when reinforced in 2010.

Edit: I know this is a very vague question but I'll appreciate any kind of input.

For the average person it means that an individual can't be denied insurance based on a pre-existing condition (putting the US on the moral high ground achieved by every other democracy 60 years ago) and the penalty for being a woman was largely removed. Students can stay on their parents' plan(s) for longer and poor people will be heavily subsidized by the Federal Government... for states that are participating (the Supreme Court disallowed some compulsory sections of the law). Early figures from states that are ahead of the game are showing rates that are really good.

For states that aren't participating fully, there are still going to be large gaps in coverage among the poor. The Affordable Care Act is the law of the land. The states refusing what isn't mandated are really ****ing over their own poor. It's not a stand that makes sense. They are basically turning down 90 cents of Federal funding for ever 10 cents that they spend.

For those that are more progressive, the ACA is criticized for being a love letter to the insurance companies as they are virtually guaranteed profits now whereas, they argue, a single-payer system would be cheaper without the middle-man.

Like most controversial things in America these days the actual affect on the average person isn't going to be all that great. Certainly not the doom and gloom that some have predicted. The only group that will be negatively affected in a moderate way will be those lucky enough to have "Cadillac" health plans... there will be a penalty on those since they are extremely expensive and resource intensive.

For the average person it means that an individual can't be denied insurance based on a pre-existing condition (putting the US on the moral high ground achieved by every other democracy 60 years ago) and the penalty for being a woman was largely removed. Students can stay on their parents' plan(s) for longer and poor people will be heavily subsidized by the Federal Government... for states that are participating (the Supreme Court disallowed some compulsory sections of the law). Early figures from states that are ahead of the game are showing rates that are really good.

For states that aren't participating fully, there are still going to be large gaps in coverage among the poor. The Affordable Care Act is the law of the land. The states refusing what isn't mandated are really ****ing over their own poor. It's not a stand that makes sense. They are basically turning down 90 cents of Federal funding for ever 10 cents that they spend.

For those that are more progressive, the ACA is criticized for being a love letter to the insurance companies as they are virtually guaranteed profits now whereas, they argue, a single-payer system would be cheaper without the middle-man.

Like most controversial things in America these days the actual affect on the average person isn't going to be all that great. Certainly not the doom and gloom that some have predicted. The only group that will be negatively affected in a moderate way will be those lucky enough to have "Cadillac" health plans... there will be a penalty on those since they are extremely expensive and resource intensive.

Thank you very much for this.

Just a follow-up question, how, or rather why was women penalized for being a woman previously?

Our premiums are increasing even more than they usually do on a yearly basis. People who were working 40 hours without insurance are seeing their hours cut to 30 so their employers do not have to offer insurance, and they are still forced to buy a govt plan which they can't afford. Self insured folks ar going to be required to buy more expensive plans that cover all the preventative care mandates. It's 2,000 pages of regulation that no legislator actually read in full before they voted on, and is to be administered by the IRS, who really doesn't have the best record and a non ellected group of officials. It adds millions of people while paying doctors less for their services. It really won't go well, it's not actually going into fill affect until 2014.

Fiscally it's another underfunded entitlement. It was a poorly guided attempt to get a quasi social medicine program which needed to go a lot further to get to one payer with the large jump in taxes required. Or they should have simply had national tort reform and have insurance compete across state lines. More and more I'm convinced that Canada as a nation really has their stuff together far better than the US.

I just saw the CNN report about the building collapse in Philly after a demolition gone wrong. Some injuries but no deaths, thank God, according to what they are saying.

It was a pretty large, vacant building. I'm curious to find out whether or not shady business played a roll in this disaster. I heard there was some odd behavior last night - people tossing bricks from the top of the building..

It was a pretty large, vacant building. I'm curious to find out whether or not shady business played a roll in this disaster. I heard there was some odd behavior last night - people tossing bricks from the top of the building..

It's always sunny in Philly.

I guess they removed and tossed the load bearing bricks.

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I'm doing a mentoring program at work. One of my buddies just told me that the intern I got paired up with was talking some trash, saying "he got paired up with the weirdest dude ever." I've had minimal interaction with the intern for him to make such a bold statement. What a ****ing *******.

I'm doing a mentoring program at work. One of my buddies just told me that the intern I got paired up with was talking some trash, saying "he got paired up with the weirdest dude ever." I've had minimal interaction with the intern for him to make such a bold statement. What a ****ing *******.

Make him pay. Give him a razorblade and tell him to scrape the dirt out of every single crack he can find, anywhere. For the next 40 hours.