The lower levels of the Ronald Reagan Office building were mostly deserted Saturday morning, but there were a few signs of life outside the Polaris Suite. Books like Jared Taylor’s White Identity and Richard Lynn’s The Global Bell Curve: Race, IQ, and Inequality Worldwide were for sale in the foyer; inside, where a dozen or so tables were set with glasses and pitchers of ice water, a low buzz of conversation arose from the overwhelmingly male crowd that was slowly trickling in. Though there were a handful of 20-somethings in evidence, most of them seated in a student gallery at the back, more than half of the registrants appeared to be AARP-eligible.

But not the National Policy Institute’s Executive Director. To look at him bustling about with a stack of papers under his arm, greeting the arriving registrants, introducing dignitaries to each other and talking about their newest books and papers, it would be easy to mistake the boyishly energetic Richard Spencer for an up-and-coming college professor rather than the white nationalist that he is. The irony that the NPI was holding its first national conference in the Ronald Reagan office building was not lost on him.

“We need to tell our libertarian friends that the free market won’t let us speak,” he quipped as he began his opening remarks. “We need socialism and massive boondoggles like the Ronald Reagan building so we can have meetings like this one. We’re grateful for its staff, who have been wonderful, and the First Amendment for making this possible.”

The mood took a somber turn as he began his presentation, entitled “Apocalypse Now.” He played a short video, which juxtaposed lurid scenes from last month’s London riots with snippets of the English politician Enoch Powell’s infamous 1968 “Rivers of Blood” speech (“immigrant communities can organize to consolidate their members, to agitate and campaign … to overawe and dominate … with the legal weapons which the ignorant and the ill-informed have provided. As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see ‘the River Tiber foaming with much blood.’”).

Spencer clearly identified keenly with Powell, whose failure to turn back the immigrant tide, he said, “was tragic. He spoke the truth but always out of season. He was a philosopher, a physician in the Nietzschean sense.” The problem, in a nutshell, and not just for Powell back then, but for white nationalists today, is democracy. “Aristocrats think in generations; they govern on behalf of their grandchildren. Democrats want to get reelected next week.”

The apocalypse we are living through in this country isn’t so much a Mad Max scenario as it is the slow deflation of a paradigm that’s based on the illusions of inclusiveness, egalitarianism, diversity, and globalism, he continued. Because of what psychologists call a “normalcy bias,” we fail to see how unsustainable our system is. We subsidize minorities and immigrants with socialistic public sector jobs and with welfare. We’ve built a vast prison system to contain their sons, bigger than anything that any of our totalitarian foes ever dreamed of. We stand by as they lower our collective IQ, sap our economic productivity, and degrade our culture and we pay for it all by accruing a crippling level of debt. Most Americans, brainwashed as they are by the myth of multiculturalism, think this is the way things will always be. Worse yet, they believe that to resist this state of affairs is somehow immoral. White nationalists understand that race and nationality are at the root of all of our problems, which will give them an enormous advantage when the reckoning comes. And it will and perhaps sooner than anyone suspects—just ask the apparatchiks who used to run the USSR.

Keith Preston, a burly, pony-tailed, self-proclaimed Third Position anarchist and pan-secessionist spoke next on Totalitarian Humanism—which is another name for Political Correctness, with all the Communist, feminist, multiculturalist baggage that comes with it. Totalitarian Humanism begins with the misnomer “mankind.” There is no such thing as mankind, only nations. Totalitarian Humanism pretends that the differences between nations and races are only as deep as the differences between McDonald’s and KFC. Totalitarian humanism believes that differences are arbitrary social constructs and places the state above everything. Mass immigration provides a reserve army of capital (social service bureaucrats want more clients; schools want more students) for the state, and cheap labor for big business. For all that, liberals believe that they have something to atone for; they think “tolerance” is a virtue, even though mass immigration undercuts so many of their own supposed objectives (full employment, high wages).

Byron Roth, professor emeritus of psychology at Dowling College and the author of The Perils of Diversity: Immigration and Human Nature, spoke on “Multiculturalism and Ethnic Activism.” He began in a high academic mode, describing how pre-historic humans lived in familial groups of 100 or so and survival was a zero-sum game in which whatever resources one group obtained came at the expense of another. Evolutionary psychology recognizes and rewards our instinct to protect and favor our own kin; tribes and nations attenuate it but don’t destroy it.

Minorities turn this instinct to their own advantage. Opportunistic demagogues use ethnic solidarity and the specter of imaginary threats and fictive discrimination to rally their populations to their defense—or rather, to attack the hapless majority. Blinded by political correctness and the chimera of inclusiveness, white people fail to recognize the objective reality: that darker people are inherently lawless and ignorant and require a much higher level of policing than they need for themselves; minority criminals thus run rampant, raping and robbing with impunity. This is why Oslo’s crime rate is four times higher than New York City’s—and why 100 percent of its reported rapes over the last five years were committed by non-European immigrants. [Reality check: Oslo’s per capita crime rate is higher than New York’s, but it’s worth noting that 1) New York has a very low crime rate for a big city, and 2) Unlike New York, Oslo police include low-level property crimes in their reports, swelling the total. As for the rape statistic, it is a widely reported canard, click here for perspective.]

Roth went on to detail how organizations like the Ford Foundation and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and George Soros’s Open Society Foundation flood minority activists with funds, enabling them to lobby for affirmative action and welfare and other schemes to redistribute the majority’s wealth. As whites become a minority, the collective IQ of the nation will inevitably plunge and the GDP will decline alongside it. When the money pump runs dry, the U.S. will be indistinguishable from the Third World nations from which the minorities fled.

During the Q&A, Roth opines that even putting an immediate halt to immigration and affirmative action would be too little too late; non-whites are reproducing so profligately that it’s only a matter of time before white people are overrun. Geographic separation, he says, might be the only solution—and for the first time all day, the room broke out in spontaneous applause.

The novelist, critic, painter and extreme metal artist Kurtagić was the next speaker. He spoke softly, in a thick accent, but the rhythms of his voice were incantatory. He explained that when white nationalism was defeated in World War II, the multicultural enemy seized the higher ground of ideas and co-opted the institutions of education, the marketplace and the state. Multiculturalist humanists not only hold the power, they own the best symbols; nobody notices that their ideas are bankrupt because they feel so good.

The message, Kurtagić proclaimed, is the messenger: Before they can prevail, white nationalists need to learn how to project an image of power. People are awed by strength and status; they want to be ravished, not reasoned with. They want to be on the winning team. White nationalists have to put a stop to their lamentation, despair and self pity, which are not the attitudes of the masterful, and begin to act like winners. Don’t talk about what we lost, he exhorted, but what we’ll gain. Defeatism is a prelude to defeat. We need to look like an establishment in waiting, not like we’re waiting for the collapse. Enjoy the struggle, he concluded, because joy will make you more creative and people will like you better. The audience certainly liked him. He received a standing ovation.

The next speaker was the Croatian linguist and diplomat Tomislav Sunic, the author of Against Democracy and Equality, who compared and contrasted the prospects for revived white nationalism in Europe and the U.S. Europe’s tragedy is that its nations are still fighting its old wars, he averred. In the U.S., there is the potential for true white solidarity. What to do with America’s immigrants? “I can’t say ‘ethnic cleansing,’” he said mischievously, invoking a phrase that, like “white,” “race,” and “right wing” has been subjected to semantic distortions and become a pejorative. “But in December 1944 and January 1945, 12 million ethnic Germans were expelled from Western Europe. In Israel in 1948 a whole population was displaced. “‘Transfer of populations,’ let’s call it,” he suggested, “or ‘voluntary departures.’ It’s feasible; it can be done.”

Jared Taylor, editor of the racist American Renaissance magazine, described the three paradigms available to race realists today: 1) Guillaume Faye’s “archeofuturism,” in which the restoration of white hegemony can only come out of the ashes of collapse; 2) The “Danish model,” in which the leadership of at least some smaller countries begins to espouse anti-immigration policies; and 3) the Orania model, named after the Afrikaner-separatist town in South Africa. Taylor sees no evidence that economic collapse promotes white consciousness, and though he was heartened by David Duke’s ascendance some years ago, he doesn’t see a revival of positive race consciousness at the national level. What does give him hope is the success of Hasidic enclaves like New Square and Kiryas Joel in New York state. Perhaps white separatists can reclaim small towns of their own, by voting themselves into local government and turning them into places that are so white-friendly that minorities will leave. No laws would need to be broken. These towns wouldn’t be anti-minority — they’d be pro-white — but their culture would be such that liberals and minorities would find them intolerable. They’d have to sell their houses, but unlike the victims of white flight, who are compelled to sell at a loss, they’d sell at a premium, to people who want to live there. “And I guarantee you, Mark Potok is not going to want to buy a house in this community,” he joked. (Potok is director of the SPLC’s Intelligence Project and editor of this blog.)

The last speaker of the day was the redoubtable Sam Dickson, who described his life’s journey from Goldwater activist to a true believer in the ethno-state. Movement conservatives, the Tea Party, all of them miss the point, he said. They talk about “taking America back.” They forget that white people haven’t had control of the government for 150 years. America’s constitution was poisoned at its inception by “the infection of the French Enlightenment”; the American system is our race’s greatest enemy. “Our government hates us, degrades us, and seeks to destroy us,” he said.

“We cannot save America. We need to let go and think of something new. America is the God that failed. It denies that the whole is more important than the parts; it denies what Aristotle said, that man is a social animal.”

Props for the writer of this article. Instead of trying to misrepresent and demonize the participants of the conference at every turn, you actually describe their ideas. The only lapse is when you refer to Jared Taylor’s magazine as “the racist American Renaissance magazine”, which reminds me of the typical SPLC article where every other sentence comically contains the word ‘racist’ or ‘hate’.

Red

Matt Parrot wrote:

“But the bottom line here is that we don’t have to prove to you that we’re a valid people with a right to exist. The Jews didn’t have to convince their implacable enemies that they were worthy and capable of founding a nation. They set out to do so and and proved the unity of their identity with a unity of action. We’ll sink or float as a people without your permission or consent, thank you very much.”

This is very much the bottom line. Ruslan’s arguments strike me as a variation of the anti-Palestinian extreme-right wing Israeli argument that one hears from time to time that “the ‘Palestinians’ don’t exist.” As if simply denying the existence of a group of people magically renders their grievances and interests invalid and false.

I ask every white American reading this to ask themselves if they have a distinct identity. Be honest. You know you do. Yes, we know that we have traditions and so on that are holdovers from our European roots. These traditions don’t separate us into distinct identities – not at all, they have blended together as our families have blended together to create a particular blend of white American traditions that help form a white American identity. And as a distinct group of people, we have our own interests to either defend or not.

Again it seems odd to have to explain this since it seems so plainly self-evident. You have to wonder about the motivations of those who go to such great lengths to try to deny that a people numbering in the hundreds of millions exists.

Matt Parrott

why don’t you tell us what European country you’re from! I mean, most people that brag about European ancestry, they usually say their roots are German, Italian…why the big secret?

My European ancestry is largely mysterious, as my American ancestry goes back so far and deep into Appalachia that it’s difficult to trace. I would probably wager that the overwhelming majority of it was from the British Isles. Even if I were inclined to celebrate my ancestral country of origin instead of my current lived identity, I would find it difficult to do so.

And wow, I think I see where a lot of this hated is coming from inside you – you separate nuclear family from extended family – meaning you praise one above the other. Then you seem to say they are not your kids or your people! To me, that sounds a little selfish, don’t you think? Were you shortchanged on love throughout life?

You should read a little more carefully, as I never say that my extended family are not “my people”. Though I do indeed love my nuclear family a bit more than my extended family and don’t see that as the least bit selfish or unnatural.

To the best of my knowledge, I haven’t been shortchanged on love, socially isolated, or filled with hatred. I believe I’m a pretty friendly person, including towards people who don’t belong to my ethnic group.

Please explain, is this the way you were brought up (learned behavior) or did you ever have every black person you’ve met (if you met alot of them actually) have harmed you in any way!

Now that you mention it, I have been mugged precisely one time and it happened to be by a Black man. I have been ganged up and bullied on precisely one time and it happened to be by a group of Blacks. Naturally, reality is a complicated thing and one can’t base his worldview on a couple isolated incidents. After all, in that last case, it was a Black friend of mine who finally persuaded them to stop physically, verbally, and sexually harassing me.

Funny how SPLC deigns to be anti-bullying, but maintains a blind spot over the anti-White nature of a huge portion of the bullying in our nation’s educational and military institutions.

Besides, I don’t have a special “thing” about Blacks. A cursory review of my published material would more likely lull one to conclude that I have a “thing” about Latinos or Jews.

Because one thing I do know, when ‘white’ guys get scared, they shoot first, or they go on a killing spree/rampage based on an imagined fear. Let me explain this, without you assuming the worst of my statements – look at Brevik, Loughner…although technically, you can call it politically motivated that this was instigated by politics, it was also racially motivated, because both had a impending fear of minorities, and ‘whites’ or at least the people who felt superior to others believed the only way to cure this is to kill in order to send a message or prove a point.

First of all, let me say that I’m deeply offended by your statistically bogus and morally outrageous stereotypes about my race. The SPLC will be hearing about this!

Second of all, Loughner’s rampage was apolitical (or at most politically incoherent). The notion that it was somehow racial was briefly entertained and later dismissed after the initial hysteria had subsided and the facts became more clear. There wasn’t anything the slightest bit racial or antisemitic going on there.

Either way, I will remember this name of yours. I can tell, and yes, I have this premonition of you getting so consumed with this hate, that I will see your name in the papers about some heinous crime you’ve done in the name of hate.

You fancy yourself a big expert on the uniquely violent and evil nature of White people yet lack the self-awareness to realize that you’re everything you’re falsely and baselessly accusing me of being. I have a premonition of my own, actually. I have a premonition that you’ll fail to see the irony here, continue perceiving Whites as uniquely violent and hateful, and continue having premonitions about perfectly boring and harmless White people going postal.

Ruslan Amirkhanov

Nicely done, Aron. I would also go further to point out that the “socialism” of the more fanatical purged Nazis was nothing like the socialism that Marx had envisioned. It was, like most fascist ideas, a return to a pre-capitalist society as opposed to moving forward to a post-capitalist world.

http://www.twitter.com/AronL Aron

Correction: When I wrote ‘aloof,’ I clearly meant to write ‘self-ignored, but plainly obvious’ in regards to Dick’s racism.

Apologies.

http://www.twitter.com/AronL Aron

Dick,

The only real National SOCIALISTS died during the Night of the Long Knives in 1934. These were primarily the men of the SA (the ‘brown shirts’), short for Sturmabteilung. Hitler viewed Erst Röhm as a threat to his power, and he worked out a deal with Heinrich Himmler, Reichsführer-SS (the ‘black shirts’) to eliminate the faction.

Röhm and his men were the last true vestiges of socialismus within the realm of the NSDAP. And Hitler and his corporate backers were quite unhappy at the thought of true social nationalism.

Perhaps YOU should bone up on your history before you type your comments and look like a fool.

Though we all know how likely that is to happen…

For anyone else interested in the history of the SS, might I recommend one of my all-time favorite books, the late Heinz Höhne’s 1967 classic ‘The Order of the Death’s Head: The Story of Hitler’s SS.’ it is IMMENSELY readable, and honestly, is frequently humorous in its descriptions of the ridiculous nature of the NSDAP bureaucracy. A wonderful book.

But back to Dick Lancaster. I know you’ll never give any of the responses to your comments any credence. So I would simply recommend you quit whilst you’re behind. You only present yourself as a laughingstock. And while I enjoy seeing your arguments torn apart, I understand that you probably wish to retain your dignity — such as it is — and stop inviting the ridicule so freely heaped upon you.

But that will likely never happen. So Dick, keep on with your aloof racism. We all find it immensely entertaining.

Have fun!

Aron

skinnyminny

Dick,
I think we’re on our way with this type government, and definitely rule of Nazis – I rather separate them and just call the Nazis, because they are already doing things and getting away with it.

As far as what’s happening with our government, the newly elected that tricked people in to voting for them are busting up the unions, the new redistricting maps allow for most voters to be underrepresented (if they are represented), and restrictions on voting, restrictions on registering to vote – things that violate the voters rights act, specifically sect 2.

Next, the belief that poor should go hungry (does that ring a bell). The poor must pay for medical care (does that ring a bell)

Lastly, look at the businesses, I mean corporations, they are able to dictate the public good (I mean bad, actually). In fact, look at the private prison industry, then also look to how most jobs will be privatized with the exception of the ‘central government.’ Oh, I must not forget the publicly spoken hatred towards anyone ‘non-white.;

So tell me, what kinda drum beat do you think this is?

Ruslan Amirkhanov

Dick, one of the most right-wing parties in contemporary Russia is known as the “Liberal Democratic Party”.

Every time some conservative like you tries to pull that trope, it only shows how ignorant you are of Nazi German history. The Nazis HAD to adopt what appeared to be a pro-working class party if they were going to have mass appeal in a country where Communists and similar parties were popular.

The Nazis’ funding, policies, and the words of its party leaders showed the true face of “National Socialism.”

The idea that a strong central government is needed to commit genocide is simply ridiculous. The Ottoman empire didn’t need it to commit genocide against Armenians, nor did the German empire need it to do the same to several peoples in East Africa.

Dick Lancaster

I assume everyone knows that the word “Nazi” is the German acronym for, “National SOCIALIST Party”. It’s difficult to commit genocide until you first get everyone under the thumb of a central government.

skinnyminny

chris schultz,
Wow! Interesting that you appear to have an extreme hatred for anything that’s leftwing.

You mentioned Rachel Maddow! Just so you’ll know, I don’t have a television anymore. I’ve decided to get rid of it as soon as GE no longer employed Keith Olbermann. In addition, television just isn’t worth paying for cable when there are programs that don’t pique my interests anymore. To be more specific, why should I pay to watch what is supposed to be news – i.e. almost the entire news is about Lindsay Lohan, or Casey Anthony, then how much ‘Obama,’ is hated! Progams such as reality that are like Jerry Springer type shows – watching people get drunk, fight. Then the history channel was mostly about Nazis. When I had it, I didn’t like the premium channels, because it appeared most movies was about Nazis, and street gangs/thugs. It ain’t real! I live in Los Angeles, so I don’t have to watch television to see this type of stuff, all I need to do is open my front door and I can see and hear all that’s on these shows, except it is for real, not people acting in front of the cameras wanting to bad boys/girls like their down and all ‘hood. So, why pay when I can see it free of charge!

Why blame the SPLC for what is the truth? Hate crimes is on the rise. No one else is taking the time to tell us the truth, or even what’s happening, unless of course, a minority commits a crime against a white person.

I see you’ve mentioned George Soros, but not the Koch Brothers, or even Trump! What’s your point? Okay, so you’ll know. Most of us here are not easily influenced by what others say when trying to turn us against people, such as, what happens on the right. Meaning, we don’t let people tell us who to like or not like. I, for one, was never interested in the teas – I saw through it on day one.

skinnyminny

matt,
why don’t you tell us what European country you’re from! I mean, most people that brag about European ancestry, they usually say their roots are German, Italian…why the big secret?

And wow, I think I see where a lot of this hated is coming from inside you – you separate nuclear family from extended family – meaning you praise one above the other. Then you seem to say they are not your kids or your people! To me, that sounds a little selfish, don’t you think? Were you shortchanged on love throughout life? And this thing you have with blacks, what is it? I mean really, if they are inferior to you, then why do they worry you so much? Do you have some type of premonition that blacks themselves don’t have, or are you worrying about the distant tomorrow that one day in the distant future, the same way people tend to think that muslims will takeover America, or the way some people have this intense fear of snakes and spiders or even flying. Please explain, is this the way you were brought up (learned behavior) or did you ever have every black person you’ve met (if you met alot of them actually) have harmed you in any way!

As for me, I am black, and the way you guys continue to talk about blacks, latinos, and muslims, it kinda scare the hell out of me. Because one thing I do know, when ‘white’ guys get scared, they shoot first, or they go on a killing spree/rampage based on an imagined fear. Let me explain this, without you assuming the worst of my statements – look at Brevik, Loughner…although technically, you can call it politically motivated that this was instigated by politics, it was also racially motivated, because both had a impending fear of minorities, and ‘whites’ or at least the people who felt superior to others believed the only way to cure this is to kill in order to send a message or prove a point.

Either way, I will remember this name of yours. I can tell, and yes, I have this premonition of you getting so consumed with this hate, that I will see your name in the papers about some heinous crime you’ve done in the name of hate. Trust me when I tell you, once you have gone this far, there’s no turning back – and the people that you thought you can depend on will be nowhere in sight – meaning you will really see what it means to feel hated, because no one will want to be bothered with you, or seem to have the time for you. In fact, those closest to you will eventually admit that the hate you harbored consumed you.

Ruslan Amirkhanov

“White America definitely contains a diversity of traditions, but our unity of character is demonstrated in how rapidly these other folkways blend seamlessly into the greater identity. Unlike with Blacks, Hispanics, and Jews, Italian and Irish Americans have more or less become indistinguishable from the rest of us in their customs and habits over time—both through enriching the overarching ethnic group and through assimilation.”

This assumes that the assimilation was willing on the part of the Irish, Slavs, Italians, etc. And again, many people would disagree with this. Also, as to why blacks don’t seem so indistinguishable from whites. Hmm…that’s a tough one. The thing is, no matter how much you want to whine about it, Latino and black culture are just as much a part of an overall American culture which includes “white” culture.

And yes, you DO need to prove your existence as a readily definable group. Jews have well-established standards for who can be considered a Jew. Let’s see yours.

CM

nydwracu said,

“The problem with understanding the concept of white culture is that the word ‘culture’ has more than one meaning. The phrase ‘white culture’ uses the word in the high-culture sense, but the word is most commonly understood in the low-culture sense. This, I think, is the source of the confusion: supporters of white culture talk about an intellectual and musical tradition common to all white society, but its opponents talk about ‘habits and traditions’ that, with few exceptions, cover a much smaller area.”

You’re trying to claim that anti-racists are committing the fallacy of equivocation, substituting a different meaning for “culture” than the one used by their opponents. But there’s no confusion: No matter how you define “culture,” “white culture” is an imaginary construct, created by racist elitists and defined as “everything that is not ‘Non-white.’” “Non-white,” of course, is defined by whatever prejudices are held by the particular racist elitist doing the construction.

Talking “about an intellectual and musical tradition common to all white society” is just the fallacy of begging the question: You have to show that there really is such a thing as “white society” before you can insert its purported traditions into the argument. You would also need to show that these traditions really qualify as uniquely “white,” which, again, means you have to define “white” adequately first and show that it does in fact define something real.

In other words, the real problem is yours to try to solve, and it centers on the word “white,” not the word “culture.”

Matt Parrott

Ruslan,

Everyone knows that Italian-Americans, Irish-Americans, WASPs, Jewish Americans, etc. all have different traditions, habits, etc. and many of the things they share in common are shared with “non-white” peoples as well.

Jewish people in America have their own ethnic nationality and identity. Whether or not they’re racially White is irrelevant. White America definitely contains a diversity of traditions, but our unity of character is demonstrated in how rapidly these other folkways blend seamlessly into the greater identity. Unlike with Blacks, Hispanics, and Jews, Italian and Irish Americans have more or less become indistinguishable from the rest of us in their customs and habits over time—both through enriching the overarching ethnic group and through assimilation.

But the bottom line here is that we don’t have to prove to you that we’re a valid people with a right to exist. The Jews didn’t have to convince their implacable enemies that they were worthy and capable of founding a nation. They set out to do so and and proved the unity of their identity with a unity of action. We’ll sink or float as a people without your permission or consent, thank you very much.

skinnyminny

btw Matt,
Ruslan is right about North Africans and U.S.

Just so you’ll know, as I stated above about the Irish slaves, they were also sold to Muslim countries.

You talk about celebrations, flags…you do know that St. Patrick’s day is about a 15 or 16 year-old kidnapped and sold into slavery, don’t you? Or is it, that you have never paid any attention to why Irish Americans celebrate this day every March?

skinnyminny

Matt,
I think most of us, at least, most minorities understand some of your, ‘white culture,’ ideas. It is wrong, however, but, we do understand.

Now, you claim you are a European American! Ruslan had it right when he said that your skin color, or outer appearance did not qualify you as being ‘white,’ to some as long as 50 years ago, or even a century ago.

To make clear, if you’re not of Britain ancestry, you were indeed, not considered ‘white,’ in America.

To complement you claim above, did you know that blacks were not the first slaves in the Americas or even Australia? That’s right buddy, it was the Irish! It was Britain that sold Irish as slaves. Oh, and let’s make clear, it wasn’t just women and men, but children – some were alleged to have been kidnapped and sold in the Caribbean as well.

In America, the people didn’t like the Germans as well, they were treated like the modern day Latin American immigrants. Yes, they made comments about the Germans that they wouldn’t assimilate, they had too many babies…

Ruslan Amirkhanov

Again, your “white American” ethnicity does not exist. As I said before, “white America” is made up of very different ethnic groups(especially if you take into account that the US government includes people of “Middle Eastern” or “North African” descent as “white”), with very different backgrounds, habits, traditions, etc. Everyone knows that Italian-Americans, Irish-Americans, WASPs, Jewish Americans, etc. all have different traditions, habits, etc. and many of the things they share in common are shared with “non-white” peoples as well.

So you lose.

Also, I see you weren’t satisfied with my treatment of your “negative identity” complaint. Well it works like this. When “white people” discriminated against non-white people, their rationale for such discrimination was based on their assertion that they were white, and their victims weren’t. So in that case, what else are we supposed to call the people doing the discriminating? People who identify themselves as something, e.g. “white”, and then discriminate against others based on that, are going to take the blame for their actions. The fact that “white” was a social construct, that it was arbitrary and not concrete, is irrelevant here.

nydwracu

The problem with understanding the concept of white culture is that the word ‘culture’ has more than one meaning. The phrase “white culture” uses the word in the high-culture sense, but the word is most commonly understood in the low-culture sense. This, I think, is the source of the confusion: supporters of white culture talk about an intellectual and musical tradition common to all white society, but its opponents talk about “habits and traditions” that, with few exceptions, cover a much smaller area.

Matt Parrott

Ruslan,

Sadly for you, “white” is not an ethnic group. You’re still just drawing arbitrary lines.

Reading comprehension. I am not advocating for some sort of generic pan-racial imperium. I’m talking about a specific ethnic group which happens to be racially White…

I don’t define my ethnic identity exclusively on biological inheritance. I’m a White American and we White Americans do have a heritage, an identity, habits, traditions, and those other things that go into making a nation.

Ruslan Amirkhanov

“The home is for those in my nuclear family circle, not my extended family circle or ethnic family circle. You’re being intentionally dense and deliberately misleading to obfuscate the healthy and natural relationship which exists between a man and his ethnic group.”

Sadly for you, “white” is not an ethnic group. You’re still just drawing arbitrary lines.

Matt Parrott

Ruslan,

No problem there. But aren’t at least some of those neighborhood kids white? Are they not your extended family according to your wacky belief system?

The home is for those in my nuclear family circle, not my extended family circle or ethnic family circle. You’re being intentionally dense and deliberately misleading to obfuscate the healthy and natural relationship which exists between a man and his ethnic group.

Ladies and Gentlemen, this tired trope is the negative identity technique. When backed against the wall by demands to explain exactly who is “white” and what is “white culture”, they pull this persecution routine.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is the tired “Sarcastic Narrator” technique. What you do is you repeat what the opponent is saying as if it were something that’s been brought up a zillion times and is easily refuted, then dismiss it as beneath refutation.

Ruslan Amirkhanov

“Please define the system Ruslan. Does the system include the SPLC with their hyper modern building and millions upon millions of dollars?”

I was speaking about the historical system of white supremacy. The fact that an organization like the SPLC has a lot of money doesn’t not necessarily mean that they are representative of the system.

“Does the system include the Billionare financial guru George Soros”

Definitely; this is a capitalist system and he is a capitalist.

“How about Rachel maddow who works for GE?”

In a sense yes, what is your point?

“Does the system include the psychology industry? ”

You have a bone to pick with the psychology industry?

“You are the one who “earned” the privilege by stepping in line and supporting the system. You and your comrades are the ones who support big business, hyper capitalism, ecological devastation, massive sprawling metropolises, and yes racism. Racism has built a very lucrative business for the SPLC”

“Throughout American history, many peoples were not considered “white”, until they earned the privilege by stepping in line and supporting the system.”

Please define the system Ruslan. Does the system include the SPLC with their hyper modern building and millions upon millions of dollars?
Does the system include the Billionare financial guru George Soros?
How about Rachel maddow who works for GE?
Does the system include the psychology industry? You are the one who “earned” the privilege by stepping in line and supporting the system. You and your comrades are the ones who support big business, hyper capitalism, ecological devastation, massive sprawling metropolises, and yes racism. Racism has built a very lucrative business for the SPLC.

Marisa

“Moderate Mike” says it all very well.

jenwren

It’s not the complexity of the argument at all anyway, or the pure color tone of the top layer or epidermis, it really only comes down to the purity [and integrity] of the motive.

ruben

to matt….you are missing the point here.no one is telling you not to be proud of what or who you are ethnic wise……for instance i happen to be of mexican decent and am proud of it but i don’t have to demonize and scapegoat other ethnic groups or someone who does not look like me to take pride in who i am……most of the white right seems to have a hard time with live and let live, you are judged by them by your physical and ethnic appearance and deemed friend or foe at that instance and if you ain’t white like them chances are you are a foe.and that large and growing subset of americans (i’ll assume white americans) are not adopting a new cosmic identity or way of thinking…..it is as old as the history of man itself its just that a lot of white america has stubbornly refused to come to terms with it….the world is not all lily white and they are finally acknowledging it……many like you are having a hard time with that fact…..but relax and take a chill pill we don’t bite and i certainly don’t want to change you or take your identity from you…..but at the same time do not spread rumors or scapegoat me just be just because i ain’t blond and blue eyed like you…..and if you ask me i think that is the real problem that is going to ruin this country….hate!

Ruslan Amirkhanov

Oh wonderful, I get to shoot another barrel of canned WN argument fish. It’s the least I can do since Matt here seems afraid of dealing with my arguments.

” One’s relationship with his ethnic extended family is this same dynamic writ large. I don’t hate the neighborhood kids, but they’re not my kids. I don’t hate the rest of the world’s people, but they’re not my people.”

This trusted old trope is the “my race is my family argument.” It’s so easy to unravel you already did my work for me. You say you don’t hate the neighborhood kids, but they’re not yours. No problem there. But aren’t at least some of those neighborhood kids white? Are they not your extended family according to your wacky belief system?

Here’s some news for you- there are several billion “white” people in the world who feel absolutely no connection to you whatsoever, nor you to them. You’re basically asserting that because you share a certain phenotype, and perhaps geographical descent, there is some kind of bond between you and, usually, Europeans in general. Wrong on all counts.

” I’m a White American and we White Americans do have a heritage, an identity, habits, traditions, and those other things that go into making a nation. I understand that a large and growing subset of Americans have adopted a new cosmic and propositional identity, but I haven’t.”

Really? Then it shouldn’t be too hard to name those habits and traditions. Anyone who is proud of their specific European heritage(Polish, Italian, Irish, etc.) knows that their people have certain cultural attributes which differ from the WASPs and other groups.

“I’ll note that we Whites seem to have a very solid identity when it comes to our historical guilt, collective responsibility for “social justice”, and need to renounce “privilege””

Ladies and Gentlemen, this tired trope is the negative identity technique. When backed against the wall by demands to explain exactly who is “white” and what is “white culture”, they pull this persecution routine. Most advocates of social justice do not blame white people for the crimes of the past, and white privilege isn’t something that “white people” just collectively gave themselves.

The concept of “white” goes back to a time of rigid class differentiation, when ruling class Europeans found their poorer working class(usually peasants recently kicked off their land) to be repulsive. Many were shipped to the Americas as slaves, often cohabitating with black slaves. Their numbers were such that in order to quell potential slave rebellions, they had to be divided somehow. Hence the birth of “white” as an identifier.

Throughout American history, many peoples were not considered “white”, until they earned the privilege by stepping in line and supporting the system.

.” Our existence as an identity group is taken for granted when it’s in a negative context and scoffed at as preposterous when it’s in a positive context. Heads, you win; tails, I lose.”

It’s not that difficult Matt, just say who is “white”, give us some examples of “white culture”, and then sit back as I smash your arguments to pieces.

Matt Parrott

A.D.M.,

No human on this planet had any say in when they were born, where they were going to be born, what they would look like when born, and who their parents were going to be.

I agree. But my children didn’t have any say about which family they were born in, yet I still love and look out for my own children first. One’s relationship with his ethnic extended family is this same dynamic writ large. I don’t hate the neighborhood kids, but they’re not my kids. I don’t hate the rest of the world’s people, but they’re not my people.

Aron,

Here’s the problem with your argument: there’s no such thing as ‘white’ heritage.

I don’t define my ethnic identity exclusively on biological inheritance. I’m a White American and we White Americans do have a heritage, an identity, habits, traditions, and those other things that go into making a nation. I understand that a large and growing subset of Americans have adopted a new cosmic and propositional identity, but I haven’t.

I’ll note that we Whites seem to have a very solid identity when it comes to our historical guilt, collective responsibility for “social justice”, and need to renounce “privilege”. Our existence as an identity group is taken for granted when it’s in a negative context and scoffed at as preposterous when it’s in a positive context. Heads, you win; tails, I lose.

CM

Arthur hit the nail on the head, in my opinion, when he mentioned the “n” word: narcissism. The NPI speakers were just dishing up the same intellectually contemptible stew of half-cooked Nietzscheanism and social Darwinism that fed the racists and anti-Semites of the early 20th century, and for the same reason: to provide fake intellectual justification for their pursuit of nothing but power, dominance, control.

Here are the diagnostic criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder, per the DSM-IV:

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
(1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
(2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
(3) believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
(4) requires excessive admiration
(5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
(6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
(7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
(8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
(9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

Sound familiar?

ruben

a.d.m……i also have to agree with you…..just think of a tasty stew with only one ingredient,it would’nt be so tasty any more.

http://www.arthurgoldwag.com Arthur Goldwag

As a Brooklyn writer who doesn’t live in Park Slope, I have to speak up one last time.

Racism and narcissism go together in that they both seem to foster a tendency to project one’s own feelings and ideas onto others. Racists seize on the most rabid haters on the other side of the color line not just to justify their own nastiness but because they genuinely believe that everybody else thinks as they do. It’s a vicious circle: “I think like Farrakhan, so all black people must think like him too. Anyone who says they don’t is either self-deluded or disingenuous.”

Skin color, ethnicity, and national origins loom so large in their thinking that they assume they do in everyone else’s too. They believe that they’ve been marginalized because of the lies that their wicked-minded adversaries have told about them, not because of the bile that they spew themselves. Now that I’ve quoted them accurately, they think, they’re finally going to win respect. They don’t seem to realize that you don’t have to be a member of a minority or a well-funded special-interest group to find their attitudes genuinely repugnant–or that the vast majority of Americans do in fact believe that the founding proposition of this nation is self-evident.

Richard Spencer

Mr. Goldwag,

Every political movement draws on a cultural, artistic, and philosophic wellspring. As I mentioned in my talk, I think the Left would be non-starter were it not for its Christian replacement religion/heresy– think racism as original sin and transcendence through global equality. It’s also true that our message resonates with some of the great cultural achievements of the 19th century, which, unfortunately, you likely reduce to “cultural despair.”

It’s also true that our movement is avant-garde–and out of step with the professed ideology of our political class and mass media.

But surely, Mr. Goldwag, even you don’t believe that our message is “profoundly foreign to most Americans.” If this were so–and we are the equivalent of experts in basket-weaving or peddlers of alien conspiracy theories–you wouldn’t waste your time reporting on us. The threat that many, many Tea Partiers might start agreeing with us seems to be the raison d’être of the SPLC as well as your entire writing career.

A.D.M.

I’m not saying you shouldn’t love who you are and where you come from. Loving oneself is natural. I love everything about me, and I’m proud of myself. But it becomes a problem when some people turn it into an “us vs. them” conflict and want to think they’re superior to folks that are not like them.

ModerateMike

“As whites become a minority, the collective IQ of the nation will inevitably plunge…”

I invite anyone who truly believes this to watch the documentary, “Waiting for Superman”. I have never seen a film that more effectively and thoroughly dispelled the myth of the intellectual inferiority of blacks and Hispanics.

Linnea

Well said, A.D.M. Can’t think of anything else to add…

Frank

I personally don’t find the “human biodiversity” or eugenics arguments to be very interesting or effective. I think a better argument is that cultures have different standards of acceptable behavior.

I tend to prefer certain cultures over others, and I assume most people do as well, if they’re honest with themselves.

People openly scoff at the idea of “white culture.” Most recently, I heard some black intellectuals on NPR laugh about the very concept, citing “a George Bush dance” as an example. Very few people would dare draw the same conclusion about “black culture.”

For me “White Culture” in many ways is simply “I know it when I see it.” For instance, wherever you and your wife want to move…it’s very likely this locale is steeped in white culture.

Brooklyn is a perfect example. East New York has plenty of “vibrant diversity” but Park Slope is where the lefty writers would prefer to live.

ruben

they are absolutely right!….this country was ruined the minute the first pilgrim got off the mayflower.

A.D.M.

These people, including most of the individuals posting comments to this article, are ridiculous. I find it stupid for someone to have pride in something they had no hand in controlling or creating. No human on this planet had any say in when they were born, where they were going to be born, what they would look like when born, and who their parents were going to be. All of that happened by chance. Nationalism, jingoism, ethnocentrism, and every other ism contributes to the problems that exist. To all of you “white pride worldwide” idiots, you could have been born in a slum somewhere in India to poor parents or in Afghanistan being taught Islamic extremism. Same thing goes nationalists of every color. And I really feel sorry for those who cannot get over the fact that the United States was, is, and forever will be a multiethnic, multicultural society and country where people of different backgrounds are coming together in many ways. You don’t like that? Fine, but it’s the real world, not a Turner Diaries-like fantasy. I feel sorry for you. And as for this “anti-white” talk, if the writers who contribute to this blog had those feelings, they wouldn’t report on hate and extremism from non-whites and they wouldn’t report on something like what’s in this article.

http://www.arthurgoldwag.com Arthur Goldwag

Note that I didn’t say that you guys are Nazis–I really do try to be careful. I said that you both draw on the same wellspring of romantic racialism, which goes far beyond the sort of “heritage celebration” that is on display in St. Patricks Day parades and polka festivals and the like. And yes, your eugenicists put Asians on top of the IQ heap, but the point that you hammer home over and over again is that white Europeans are smarter and more civilized than darker folk. And more creative than Asians, too.

If you want the media to quote you accurately, then you have to accept the consequences when they do. So please don’t pretend that you admire Jews because you aspire to erect an ethno-state of your own, or because you applaud Israel’s successful “population transfers.”

Here is what you said about the Jews on May 7, in a post at the American Third Position: “the net effect of Jewish influence on its victims may feel like it was the unanimous action of all 15 million members of that race organized by elders gathered from time to time to fashion and execute meticulous plans and protocols. But it is not. It’s the emergent effect of a group evolutionary strategy which has evolved and adapted over centuries to exploit weaknesses in a group that is unable to organize themselves to resist that influence. It is the weakness of that host group that allows small and detached groups of Jews with similar interests to dominate whole industries and institutions and to shape the popular culture.” We don’t believe in ridiculous conspiracy theories like the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, merely that the strongest Jews are shaped by evolution to take unfair advantage of white people’s vulnerabilities. Is that a fair paraphrase?

Bigots of all stripes–racialists, misogynists, homophobes–are always taking refuge in the supposed distinction between irrational prejudice and justifiable hatred. It isn’t “racism,” they say, if it’s true. And then, if they are intellectually inclined, they create an alternative academic reality, in which their most vicious libels are treated as “objective evidence.”

But the sword cuts both ways. You’re not being victimized when journalists call you racists; your own words expose you, over and over again.

Ruslan Amirkhanov

Hi Matt, allow me to explain why you fail.

“When the Chinese celebrate their heritage and homeland, it’s only natural. When Africans do it, it’s righteous anti-colonialism. When the Jews do it, it’s Zionism. For some reason, we’re not afforded this same allowance. That reason is because we’re White and the reason you disallow it is because you’re anti-White.”

Guess what, when Germans, Poles, Italians, Romanians, etc. do it, it’s not “disallowed”. Throughout Europe, and in the United States, various European nationalities celebrate their heritage in an inclusive way, just like the Chinese, Koreans, or whatever. See when Chinese celebrate their heritage, they don’t demand that only Han Chinese attend their festival. They are not only celebrating their culture but they are putting it on display for the world. European countries do the same all the time, every year.

Here’s the bad news for you. While there is such a thing as Polish, German, English, French, etc. culture, there is no such thing as “white” culture. Virtually all European cultures have influence from non-European sources going back hundreds if not thousands of years. More importantly, various European nations and ethnic groups would be offended to hear that they should be lumped into one group as “white.”

The problem with celebrating “white” heritage is first of all- it doesn’t exist. There are plenty of people in the world who can easily fit the white phenotype despite having totally non-European or even Indo-European origins. Second, this whole idea of “white” is artificial. Third, it was invented to justify and perpetuate oppression. To that point, keep in mind that people who are readily considered “white” today were not considered thus 100 or in some cases 50 years ago. That means that YOU might not have been considered “white” at some point in American history.

Celebrate Irish, Polish, German, etc. culture all you want, but you know damn well that white nationalist organizations aren’t about celebrating culture and putting it on display for others, as is the case for most cultural celebrations, European or otherwise.

Also, I don’t remember this publication ever supporting Zionism, and it has regularly repeated on black nationalists groups which have gone beyond “celebration of culture.”

Here’s the problem with your argument: there’s no such thing as ‘white’ heritage. Because there’s no such thing as ‘white.’ There are the nations your ancestors came from, and those nations’ particular cultures. Be it Russian or Spanish, all of these people may have light skin. But that doesn’t mean they have a ‘common white heritage.’ Such a concept is patently silly.

I’ll just wait for Ruslan to come and explain it further, as I simply don’t have the time to explain this any further.

Aron

http://www.hoosiernation.us Matt Parrott

No, there truly isn’t a hairs-breadth of distance between the NPI’s world view and the Romantic racialism that animated so much of Nazi ideology. That’s not name calling. Blood and soil, the spiritual beauty of race, so-called “Indo-European” superiority, eugenics, the “ethno-State”–what else can you call them?

I must have missed the part about Indo-European superiority. I did catch the part where they showed a map of global IQ that showed us clearly trailing the Far East. I also heard the part that celebrated Zionism as an admirable example of ethno-national ambition.

In the final analysis, your comparison of the conference’s speakers to Nazism really does amount to little more than name-calling. Celebration of heritage and homeland neither started nor ended with Nazism, and hundreds of nations throughout the world routinely celebrate their heritage and homeland in the same manner experienced this weekend.

When the Chinese celebrate their heritage and homeland, it’s only natural. When Africans do it, it’s righteous anti-colonialism. When the Jews do it, it’s Zionism. For some reason, we’re not afforded this same allowance. That reason is because we’re White and the reason you disallow it is because you’re anti-White.

Differences aside, I appreciated your being civil when I introduced myself and I appreciate your (relatively) honest and credible account of the event. It’s a refreshing exception to the tabloid-style hit pieces masquerading as journalism your employer was hoping for when it commissioned this research.

chris schultz

Mr. Goldwag,

As I stated earlier, I applaud the fashion which you chose to address the NPI conference in your article. Though I would say that we disagree on the validity, we do agree that the discussions you presented from the NPI were the topics discussed at the NPI.

So often, the SPLC’s Hatewatch blog delves into hearsay that can only be described as tabloid gossip. Therefore it is refreshing to read an accurate portrayal of an event, and then readers can make an objective decision for themselves.

As for the Blood and Soil, The spiritual beauty of race, etc. I find that there are aspects to a blood and soil ethos outside of any type of nazi ideology which are admirable. However, the Nazi party was in many ways the antithesis of tradition and celebrating racial heritage and was in actuality a (quite literally) death march to an unsustainable modernity.

http://www.arthurgoldwag.com Arthur Goldwag

“AARP eligible” and octogenarian aren’t exactly the same thing–I got my first AARP mailing on my fiftieth birthday. But lest anyone draw the wrong conclusions, this was not a big crowd. If 20 percent of the registrants were in their twenties, then that was 20 people at the very most.

What I hope my reasonably objective account of the conference did make clear, is that the NPI espouses an ideology that is profoundly foreign to most Americans–including, as I think the NPI would admit, the vast majority of Republicans and Tea Partiers. .

No, there truly isn’t a hairs-breadth of distance between the NPI’s world view and the Romantic racialism that animated so much of Nazi ideology. That’s not name calling. Blood and soil, the spiritual beauty of race, so-called “Indo-European” superiority, eugenics, the “ethno-State”–what else can you call them?

CM

Maybe Frank, Chris and Richard will think the following also “makes sense”

“It should not be forgotten, as a general rule, that it is not the highest aim of man’s existence to maintain a State or a government, but rather to conserve its national character. Human rights are above State rights. If, in its struggle for human rights, a race goes under, it means that it has weighed too light in the scales of fate to be fit to continue to exist in this terrestrial world. For if a man is unprepared or unable to fight for his life, just Providence has already decreed his end. The world is not for craven-hearted races.

“… What we have to fight for is security for the existence and increase of our race and our nation, nourishment of its children and purity of its blood, freedom and independence for the Fatherland.

“… The loss of racial purity ruins the fortunes of a race for ever; it continues to sink lower and lower in mankind, and its consequences can never be expelled again from body and mind.

“… As regards the possibility of carrying out our knowledge in practice, I may remind my readers that the parliamentary principle of decision by majorities has not always governed the human race; on the contrary, it only appears during quite short periods of history, and those are always periods of decadence in nations and States.”

The quotes are from Mein Kampf, by Adolf Hitler. Now that you’ve read them, maybe you’d like to re-read the speakers’ comments from the NPI conference.

And before anyone hollers that all comparisons with Hitler are invidious and unjustifiable, I would suggest that instead of trying to dodge the inevitable comparison, you offer some explanation of just how your racism differs from the Nazis’. Personally, I can’t see one inch of space between them.

Richard Spencer

This is Richard Spencer.

I applaud Arthur Goldwag: He clearly doesn’t like us much, but his depiction of what was said at our event is, more or less, accurate.

He is in error, however, in his description of the attendees. Some 20% of the audience bought student and under-30 tickets. This conference was thus significantly YOUNGER then most every conservative intellectual gathering I’ve ever attending!

Also, at the end of the conference, I made a rough demographic study, asking those who were under 30, between 30 and 50, and over 50 to raise there hands. Two-thirds were under-50. It struck me as a well-balanced group of activists and supporters.

It’s convenient for the SPLC to depict their enemies as octogenarian dead-enders, but the reality is quite different.

Richard Freemont

I was expecting to read about a bunch of lunatics. But instead, it sounds like the speakers made a lot of sense. Thanks for reporting on such an important event.

chris schultz

I truly commend the SPLC in presenting the tone of the NPI conference relatively accurately. Now can someone please tell me how these ideas are not worth exploring.

Most of the intellectual ideas presented at this conference can also appeal to my devout leftist father because they are truly common sense in most instances.

Frank

A very well written summary.

I feel terrible saying this, but much of the arguments made a good deal of sense to me.

And by the way, this was my favorite line: “the rhythms of his voice were incantatory.”

Why are you writing for an SPLC blog? Set your sights higher…you’ve got some talent there.

James

You want to take about the European white immigrants who commited genocide against the Native Americans and stole their land. I have yet to see Mexicans, Arabs, Africans, etc to do anything near that. These hypocrites really should’nt talk.