If this is not pure manipulation then I don't know what it is , how do you guys explain decreasing back to 599$ in a few hours ?I'm sure It has nothing to do with Bitfinex as that exchange is pretty much dead for what comes to the trading volume (compared to the old trading volume they had), everyone switched to Poloniex => https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/

If this is not pure manipulation then I don't know what it is , how do you guys explain decreasing back to 599$ in a few hours ?I'm sure It has nothing to do with Bitfinex as that exchange is pretty much dead for what comes to the trading volume (compared to the old trading volume they had), everyone switched to Poloniex => https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/

Yes it seem pure manipulation from whales to dump their own coins to create panic in market so that they can grab even more bitcoin in cheaper price than they have sold. But when they will collect enough coins price may get pumped again even higher than $620.

If this is not pure manipulation then I don't know what it is , how do you guys explain decreasing back to 599$ in a few hours ?I'm sure It has nothing to do with Bitfinex as that exchange is pretty much dead for what comes to the trading volume (compared to the old trading volume they had), everyone switched to Poloniex => https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/

Yes it seem pure manipulation from whales to dump their own coins to create panic in market so that they can grab even more bitcoin in cheaper price than they have sold. But when they will collect enough coins price may get pumped again even higher than $620.

Your guess works are smarter, but practically to dump a 10 billion market is highly hard for individuals. Maybe you are true if the whales are forming a group but the group of people will not have same intention to dump bitcoin as many bitcoiners do love bitcoin system emotionally, I have seen that in real time.

If this is not pure manipulation then I don't know what it is , how do you guys explain decreasing back to 599$ in a few hours ?I'm sure It has nothing to do with Bitfinex as that exchange is pretty much dead for what comes to the trading volume (compared to the old trading volume they had), everyone switched to Poloniex => https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/

Its indeed no manipulation some people are just trying some theories but its just all bullshit if you are asking me.

yes, I think that the increase in pure, bitcoin prices rose to $ 600. because rising slowly. I feel that the price of bitcoin could be more than that if no hackers who hack into one trading sites. bitcoin prices may be higher because of halving

yes, I think that the increase in pure, bitcoin prices rose to $ 600. because rising slowly. I feel that the price of bitcoin could be more than that if no hackers who hack into one trading sites. bitcoin prices may be higher because of halving

It is, but i don't think the rising of bitcoin to $600 is pure manipulation. Because the price of bitcoin is stable for around 1 month, and i'm sure it's pure not manipulation.

If this is not pure manipulation then I don't know what it is , how do you guys explain decreasing back to 599$ in a few hours ?I'm sure It has nothing to do with Bitfinex as that exchange is pretty much dead for what comes to the trading volume (compared to the old trading volume they had), everyone switched to Poloniex => https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/

Its indeed no manipulation some people are just trying some theories but its just all bullshit if you are asking me.

I believe the same thing too that there no manipulation involved here those are just some nonsense theories, Bitcoins price does normally moves it price up and down because of circumstances that is happening in bitcoin ecosystem. Just like on what we saw on bitfinex hack it did decrease bitcoins price because those hacked bitcoins are being sold on cheap price then after that incident price of bitcoins start to rise up gradually because people do purchase bitcoin in cheaper price.

12 hours ago (before I go to sleep) , the price was something like 575$ If I remember right , I woke up and found it 600$ (using preev.com rates) .What could cause this price increase ? I checked some news websites and I couldn't find any obvious reasons , the only thing I read and I found interesting is Bitfinex paying their customers back from the HACK but I'm pretty sure It has nothing to do with the increase.

Because of what happen on the exchange website that was hacked bitfinex was hacked and their customers are angry for what happend on that exchange website i think thousand of users are they lost their bitcoin on that site thats the main reason why the price of bitcoin decrease that fast

If this is not pure manipulation then I don't know what it is , how do you guys explain decreasing back to 599$ in a few hours ?I'm sure It has nothing to do with Bitfinex as that exchange is pretty much dead for what comes to the trading volume (compared to the old trading volume they had), everyone switched to Poloniex => https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/

even if it was true there is a manipulation , hard to prove it ,and also they cannot doing this manipulation continuously ,all i believe in current bitcoin market are there is a possibility to be manipulated ,it is fine as long as everyone happy? noone have disadvantage here?

bitcoin price 600 dollar every one bitcoin not manipulationbitcoin price is stable price in 600 dollaris now up down only 600 dollar not wave big down or not wave big up

exactly once, the current bitcoin price movements are very stable. almost no meaningful change. there is not even a significant increase and decrease. prices range between 600 USD.

There is a lot less fluctuation at the moment so it seems to me that the price is getting some stability at last. Altough with bitcoin you never know for use, it may well get a major crash or major spike of a sudden event. So yes you are never certain.

There is a lot less fluctuation at the moment so it seems to me that the price is getting some stability at last. Altough with bitcoin you never know for use, it may well get a major crash or major spike of a sudden event. So yes you are never certain.

less fluctuation? the opposite already happened and the price were few dollars under 600 USD when i last time checked it yesterday, returning to + 600 USD today was a good news, was afraid to see it crushing...

There is a lot less fluctuation at the moment so it seems to me that the price is getting some stability at last. Altough with bitcoin you never know for use, it may well get a major crash or major spike of a sudden event. So yes you are never certain.

less fluctuation? the opposite already happened and the price were few dollars under 600 USD when i last time checked it yesterday, returning to + 600 USD today was a good news, was afraid to see it crushing...

We are not having any reason to move significantly in any direction at the moment. Therefore, we should sit where we are at the moment. In case of Bitcoin that means jumping up and down about 10% without any significant reason, just as a normal behaviour of a very volatile asset. I wouldn't make any big theories to explain that, nor call it a crash or the next bull.

We are not having any reason to move significantly in any direction at the moment. Therefore, we should sit where we are at the moment. In case of Bitcoin that means jumping up and down about 10% without any significant reason, just as a normal behaviour of a very volatile asset. I wouldn't make any big theories to explain that, nor call it a crash or the next bull.

True but passing from a level to another one could lead to a massive buy or sell... In this case price dropping to less than $600 could make people just sell to prevent losses before buying again when it is low... Well it is much complicated than that

We are not having any reason to move significantly in any direction at the moment. Therefore, we should sit where we are at the moment. In case of Bitcoin that means jumping up and down about 10% without any significant reason, just as a normal behaviour of a very volatile asset. I wouldn't make any big theories to explain that, nor call it a crash or the next bull.

True but passing from a level to another one could lead to a massive buy or sell... In this case price dropping to less than $600 could make people just sell to prevent losses before buying again when it is low... Well it is much complicated than that

Sure, we can see a panic starting when we move towards one of the bands of the channel we currently sit in. I guess that is also the natural reaction of weak hands, not used to Bitcoin volatility. But, as I said, fundamentally we do not have any important reasons to support either up or down direction.

We are not having any reason to move significantly in any direction at the moment. Therefore, we should sit where we are at the moment. In case of Bitcoin that means jumping up and down about 10% without any significant reason, just as a normal behaviour of a very volatile asset. I wouldn't make any big theories to explain that, nor call it a crash or the next bull.

True but passing from a level to another one could lead to a massive buy or sell... In this case price dropping to less than $600 could make people just sell to prevent losses before buying again when it is low... Well it is much complicated than that

Sure, we can see a panic starting when we move towards one of the bands of the channel we currently sit in. I guess that is also the natural reaction of weak hands, not used to Bitcoin volatility. But, as I said, fundamentally we do not have any important reasons to support either up or down direction.

Not everyone is using bollinger bands as an indicator.I guess this is what you are talking about.There are several other methods of how to read and predict a future chart movement.In the end it is always the same. Price breaks certain support level, fear kicks in and people start to sell, depending on their strategy.Or price breaks certain resistence, FOMO kicks in and people start to buy.

We are not having any reason to move significantly in any direction at the moment. Therefore, we should sit where we are at the moment. In case of Bitcoin that means jumping up and down about 10% without any significant reason, just as a normal behaviour of a very volatile asset. I wouldn't make any big theories to explain that, nor call it a crash or the next bull.

True but passing from a level to another one could lead to a massive buy or sell... In this case price dropping to less than $600 could make people just sell to prevent losses before buying again when it is low... Well it is much complicated than that

Sure, we can see a panic starting when we move towards one of the bands of the channel we currently sit in. I guess that is also the natural reaction of weak hands, not used to Bitcoin volatility. But, as I said, fundamentally we do not have any important reasons to support either up or down direction.

Not everyone is using bollinger bands as an indicator.I guess this is what you are talking about.There are several other methods of how to read and predict a future chart movement.In the end it is always the same. Price breaks certain support level, fear kicks in and people start to sell, depending on their strategy.Or price breaks certain resistence, FOMO kicks in and people start to buy.

Yep, we agree that No matter which TA tool you use, or even if you don't use any, the volatility is the biggest challenge for any Bitcoin trader. And some weak hands are not able to deal with that.

I don't think we have to say the recent price pump as manipulation. Price was down for several days after that bitfinex got hacked so people hurriedly bought cheap bitcoins so that price is now near $600. Price swing (pump or dump) of around $25 is possible and quite normal within one day.