Originally posted by boymonkey74
At the end of the day we (Brits) do not care what he says, it is up to us if we wish her to remain head of state (which we do) so that bloak can go
and bleat at something else.
She makes money for our country and has served us very well, she has put her sons and grandchildren in harms way just like any other forces parent and
I for one respect her and enjoy my royal family.
God save the queen

Do you honestly think that if the British people stood up and said "We don't want her as our Queen" .... that things would change? Honestly? Do you
think she'd say "Ok I'm outta here!"?

I am just in awe of your comments, but trust me, not in any way that makes you a hero here.

This one just about killed me: "As a Canadian, I prize our connection to the UK, to the great family of nations known as the Commonwealth, and to the
Monarch, the focus of our heartfelt affection and loyalty."

They have a name for people like you: Sheeple.

Good for you! People like you, then, deserve to be the loyal servants of a monarch, endlessly speculating over the royal family's actions, their
every word, marriage, and move. How fun! A life devoted to gossip magazines, featuring your queen! Is Kate pregnant yet? Who will Harry marry?

America--the prodigal son! Our greatness (at one time) could not be matched--not even by the UK back in its bloated years of success. That's because
we don't have a queen living in a castle in New Jersey. We have the constitution of the United States living in a glass case in Washington, DC.

"Monarchy is a mystery. Simply factoring it down to a case of what appears to be undeserved wealth is a hopelessly inadequate appreciation of it."

Seriously? We, who oppose a monarch, are just hopelessly underappreciating it?

I think Alex Jones seriously underappreciates it, based on numerous references he has made to monarchy.

Do you know why democracies refuse to have a monarch?

There are very few absolute monarchies in the world. The Vatican is the only one I can think of. Alex Jones and you, apparently, don't seem to
differentiate between absolute and constitutional monarchies. Most monarchies are constitutional or ceremonial. There are over forty of them in the
world. Some of them are extremely important and powerful democracies, like the UK and Japan for example. They retain the monarchy for the reasons
cited in my earlier posts.

I see little to appreciate.

Yes.

Please, by all means, inform us.

Simply informing is not enough, most of the time. It does require some effort on the part of the one informed.

Yes the Queen is simply a tourist attraction nothing more, anybody who think she has any influence on the world scene is living in the 17th centuary
or watching to many movies, its absolutely laughable

Reports made recently by Visit Britain revealed that the Queen of England and the Royal family generate close to £500 million in revenues every year
for tourism. Who are the Queen’s biggest fans? Russians, Malaysians and Brazilians!

London of course attracts visitors from around the world for a number of reasons, but the Royal sights come out on top each and every year as the most
visited tourist attractions. The Tower of London which is home to the Crown Jewels, is the most popular, with 2.4 million tourist visits annually.
Close to a million people visited Windsor Castle in 2009, more than double the amount of tourists that visited Buckingham Palace, with only 402,000
visitors. It’s not only historic sights around London, but the royal residences throughout England and Scotland as well that attract millions.

Lavish mansions and palaces surrounded by well-kept estates give visitors just a taste of what it must be like to live like a queen. Many of the royal
residences are open to the public, at least the grounds and certain rooms.

By all means go an visit, such a beautiful country with such beautiful people

Me- okay, religion aside, do you all brits love the queen? or would you like her out?
I mean removed..

Scottish friend- eh im Scottish and i support independence for my country

Me- okay...Scotland has considerable oil reserves ..were it not for the monarchy mooching off you ,you would be rich like Switzerland or dubai or
qatar.

Scottish friend- perhaps if i was English or a rangers football fan id posably support the queen england will never get rid of it as it brings to
much money to england and yeah theirs a lot to be said for Scotland oil

Me- I always had impression from the MSM that brits love the queen?What is the ground reality? To be frank I have heard from my sources that the
queen has a lot of black money that she does not declare.

Scottish friend- well down south in England she has a massive fallowing. but in wales Scotland Ireland not so much as far as i understand she has her
fingers in many a pie including uranium .

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It confirmed one thing
1)Scotland wants independence
2)Queen is corrupt thief mooching off Scotland (at least Scots are convinced) and has her in radioactive poisons like Uranium for nukes.
3)The Scots do not trust the Monarchy with Scotland's oil.

A referendum for Scottish independence should be held.Free Scotland!!!!

I am always baffled why the fact she had German ancestors is of any relevance.

I have Irish, doesn't make me Irish. Most people in the UK will have Germanic ancestors, even most modern Scots are actually Anglo-Saxon, although
most people will be a blend of all the people who have ever migrated here.

The Queen actually is descended from Harold of Godwin. William will be the first Monarch to be descended from Charles I (a Stuart - Scot) on his
mothers side.

You are of course aware it was the UK Parliament, under the Act of Succession, that removed the 50 or so Catholics (and in your eyes "English",
although they were Scottish mostly) in the line of succession and put the "Germans" on the throne.

When it comes down to people in Europe and especially "noble" lines, pointing to an ancestor from 200+ years ago as proof positive they are foreign
is idiotic.

The UK, England especially, has seen waves of migrants over thousands of years, we're a race of mongrels so it makes no sense to say "The Queen is
German."

I am just in awe of your comments, but trust me, not in any way that makes you a hero here.

This one just about killed me: "As a Canadian, I prize our connection to the UK, to the great family of nations known as the Commonwealth, and to the
Monarch, the focus of our heartfelt affection and loyalty."

They have a name for people like you: Sheeple.

Baaaaaah.

Good for you! People like you, then, deserve to be the loyal servants of a monarch, endlessly speculating over the royal family's actions,
their every word, marriage, and move. How fun! A life devoted to gossip magazines, featuring your queen! Is Kate pregnant yet? Who will Harry
marry?

Yes it's silly but it is silly human fun and I might add, fun that is indulged in by many Americans too.

America--the prodigal son! Our greatness (at one time) could not be matched--not even by the UK back in its bloated years of success. That's
because we don't have a queen living in a castle in New Jersey. We have the constitution of the United States living in a glass case in Washington,
DC.

America's success has little to do with the absence of a monarch and would have happened anyway. America's success has to do with the energy of its
people, the opportunities available in a large, new unexploited land and with developments in the world beyond America's shores, including the
evolution of constitutional monarchy elsewhere.

Threats emanating from the UK for example, don't emanate from a monarch. They emanate from financial interests in that country.

EDIT: As for the borrowing money with interest, those are Bonds which are sold on the open market. They don't come from the BoE, although the BoE
might buy some anyway.

The BoE is more concerned with regulation and stability of the economy and markets, rather than being there to lend money to the Government.

Point of interest, the UK is one only a handful of countries to have never defaulted on it's debt, ever...

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because: (no reason given)

The UK has similarly made grandiose claims about how it too has supposedly never defaulted on its debts since the fourteenth (or was it the
thirteenth?) century. This too is nonsense. In 1931 the British government also decided that it would no longer honour its previous commitment to
exchange its currency for gold and to pay its debts in gold. This was possibly the biggest psychological shock the world financial system has
experienced to date. The British government had succeeded in maintaining sterling’s value on the gold standard without interruption since the
sixteenth century. The idea that sterling might come off the gold standard and no longer be exchangeable for gold in peacetime was thought
inconceivable. The entire world financial system had been constructed on the assumption of sterling’s stability and convertibility into gold so
sterling’s sudden devaluation caused a total collapse in confidence across the whole world financial system. To make matters worse the British
government shortly after in 1932 announced that it was making a straightforward default on repayment of its war debt to the US, which it had incurred
during the First World War. The ensuing panic caused a bank run in the US and led directly to the US default of 1933.

Originally posted by JailTales
They're right but you aren't going to hear many Brits accept it.

Us Brits are pretty rational and care little for nationalism, but there are 3 things you cannot stray from establishment opinion on - the BBC, the
monarchy and the falklands war.

personally i think they are parasites and most people I know agree with me. The only people I really know who are big on the monarchy are females,
probably some sort of fairytale like condition that was instilled in them early in their life, a bit like their fascination with the farcical concept
of marriage

you'd be hard pressed to find any salt of the earth british men who support the queen

I've never heard such rubbish in my life. I'm a working class man and completely support the queen, you may have noticed hundreds of thousands who
feel similarly over the last couple of weeks on the TV. It's not an 'establishment opinion', I and many more feel it because we believe it's part
of what makes our country what we are. You have your opinion, fine, but you speak for no one but yourself.

The theory about the NWO is that there are a number of bloodlines that have been in power (visibly or behind the scenes) for thousands of years and
are pushing a one world government. European Royals tend to be included in the Theory.

But the Saxe Coburg dynasty that then became the Windsor dynasty hasn't been in power for thousands of years, has it? The 'visibly or behind the
scenes' is just the conspiracy theorists get out clause isn't it?

I`m not having a go at you.
I`m against the monarchy and i have my reasons...as you have yours for supporting the monarchy.
What i dont get is when you say you and others feel thats what makes us what we are.

In fact, not only is the monarchy a deep part of the British Identity, but I also feel it serves a valuable service.

Hear me out, and see if you agree....

Imagine if you will, a person groomed since birth into a life of public service. Their only motivation, instilled in them since birth, is the welfare
of their people. Unlike other politicians, they aren't looking to get in, fatten their wallets, then retire.

No, instead, they are surrounded by the good life, in exchange for complete and lifelong public service.

To be honest, I think the Brits have really hit on something here with their balance of a monarchy, and elected officials. It's a good balance, and
the ultimate check and balance against corruption.

An archaic institution, or a clever innovation? Personally, I have to go with the latter.

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