An extremely well thought out response ,
you sound like one of those Politicians that you are so terrified of.
I’m surprised that you didn’t include the God Botherers All Time NO 1 response to anything That needs a solid answer. You know the one,” you have to have faith”,
It’s good to hide behind whenever you can’t win a argument.

Not much point in going on with this as dyed in the wool Christians will never admit that they just might be wrong about anything, “God works in mysterious ways”just about covers any real answers that you find to hard to come up with.
Loved the debate. But I’m of to see something that isn’t fiction.

It wasn't a debate, it was a train wreck.

You have allowed your personal bigotry against Christians to cloud your judgement on what is a much larger and more important issue than bakers or gay weddings.

This is about personal freedom, plain and simple.

Should a Muslim butcher be forced to order and slice my Christmas ham, even though merely touching ham is against his faith?
Should a Jewish lawyer be forced to argue for a Nazi’s legal right to call for Jews to be exterminated?
Should a Gay printer be forced to print material for an anti-Gay rally?
Should a Black business owner be forced to supply goods for a local White Supremacist organisation?

A reasonable answer to each of those scenarios is No, they shouldn't be forced. You represent the unreasonable side of the debate. Small minds don’t see the bigger picture... You prove that each time you post in this topic.

And i wont let your anti-Christian sniping go unanswered.

If you were to rely purely on scientific evidence to come up with your position vis-a-vis God, the only tenable position would be Agnosticism, definitely not your brand of uncouth Atheism.

If you were to allow the scientific and philosophic evidence to lead you to the most reasonable outcome, knowing that science can never directly prove or disprove an immaterial creator, that most reasonable outcome would likely be Christianity.

The latest Atheist explanation for the creation of the universe and life within in, after the previous theories all turned to dust, is to now rely on Aliens and Multiple Universes. Dawkins, Hawkins, Hoyle ... they all jumped on board the Panspermia bandwagon. That's how far they have to travel to come up with an explanation that does not include God ... literal science fiction. And you want to sit there and talk about 'faith' ... your living it everyday.

I'll tell you what, Turnbull going over the top with his self-congratulatory response has been really hard to watch. He spent way too much money on something he should have had the guts to just pass in the first place. Shorten similarly taking advantage of the situation and made sure he and Tanya P had a photo op with a beer in hand with Magna Sebankski.

Why can't service stations also refuse to serve SSM people - if that means that half way across the Nullabor gays die in the desert for lack of juice then bad luck. Stuff Presilla!

There are some really wild scenarios getting thrown about!

For me, it's simply asking people to be directly involved in what was a religious ceremony centred around their religious text where they may just politely refer them to another baker, dressmaker etc.

These religious books have been around for years and Christianity was the foundation of our society. We all know the gist of what they contain and people are just being a bit silly throwing around stupid scenarios. To let another man die would go against any religious text (Yes, probably even the Koran).

We're talking something that would be akin to forcing a muslim eat non-halal or remove a hijab.

Religious rights need to be balanced appropriately with SSM rights. Otherwise, we're taking a step back, rather than a step forward towards inclusion.

Earl,
You call their arguments childish, and 10 seconds later . . . you call them names.
Funny indeed.
Actually, looking back at this thread your go-to argument is to call people that hold opposing views to yours, "morons".
So left.

There should be laws protecting SSM folk from discrimination in essential industries and supplies like serving petrol at Oodnagullarbie (ask GC Tiger where the hell is?) in middle of desert.

Also in receiving the Last Rites from a Catholic priest on their death bed so they won't get a one-way pass to Hell for their abominable lifestyle.

It is other nutjobs turn now.

Malcolm Knox: What has happened this week is a pity for the Tigers, a pity for Jason Taylor and a pity for Robbie Farah, who had achieved more than the Big Four put together but was somehow turned into collateral damage. (SMH 25-26 March, 2017)

Also a big contratulations to the public. If there wasn't such a strong push, there would never have been a plebiscite, and it would not have come this far.

It shouldn't have taken $120 million bucks

It was simple , people deserve equal rights no matter what

51 years since the Indigeneous have the right to vote , the gay /lesbian community have the right to marry

We aren't real quick on the upbeat sometimes , kind of embarrassing really

In the words of the great man ""IT IS WHAT IT IS""....obviously the people have spoken and the government has responded to the wishes of the community....it may suit some but not others...sobeit...

That’s it exactly, Most votes that have ever been taken suits some , (usually the winners) and don’t suit others , ( usually the losers)
The majority in the public vote was extremely in favour of whats happening
And even the Pollies did the right thing and put it through
It all worked like Democracy is supposed to

Why can't service stations also refuse to serve SSM people - if that means that half way across the Nullabor gays die in the desert for lack of juice then bad luck. Stuff Presilla!

There are some really wild scenarios getting thrown about!

For me, it's simply asking people to be directly involved in what was a religious ceremony centred around their religious text where they may just politely refer them to another baker, dressmaker etc.

These religious books have been around for years and Christianity was the foundation of our society. We all know the gist of what they contain and people are just being a bit silly throwing around stupid scenarios. To let another man die would go against any religious text (Yes, probably even the Koran).

We're talking something that would be akin to forcing a muslim eat non-halal or remove a hijab.

Religious rights need to be balanced appropriately with SSM rights. Otherwise, we're taking a step back, rather than a step forward towards inclusion.

If we are to take all religious beliefs into consideration the whole place would be a mess,
They can be pulled out of a hat at will,
people won’t stand in court because of a new found RB,
Women won’t identify themselves to a male police officer.
That’s just a couple of doozies that have come up with Muslims,
All religions have So called R B’s some are genuine some are the results of some crackpot.
Some are created to suit the particular person.
Who decides which ones are geniune,

The law of the country overrules any other law and its the only was a country can run,
That’s just the way it is
Be religious if you want, but just don’t discriminate against any other human
Religion has done that for long enough, and it’s time some of them open their eyes and see the reality

There should be laws protecting SSM folk from discrimination in essential industries and supplies like serving petrol at Oodnagullarbie (ask GC Tiger where the hell is?) in middle of desert.

Also in receiving the Last Rites from a Catholic priest on their death bed so they won't get a one-way pass to Hell for their abominable lifestyle.

It is other nutjobs turn now.

Leave Oodnagullarbie out of this, it is a quiet little oasis of sanity and has managed to evade religious wars for centuries, mainly by kicking the bejesus out of any bible bashing mongrel who sets foot in town, no matter what religion they’re selling,
They threw the last one who entered town , into the local waterhole, which did nothing to pacify the attitude of the old salty who inhabits said waterhole,
There’s no discrimination in that town, they hate everyone,

Ps just for those who were worried about the water hole ,Don’t be, the Salty got a bit sick; but recovered eventually, Damn nearly Choked though,

There should be laws protecting SSM folk from discrimination in essential industries and supplies like serving petrol at Oodnagullarbie (ask GC Tiger where the hell is?) in middle of desert.

Also in receiving the Last Rites from a Catholic priest on their death bed so they won't get a one-way pass to Hell for their abominable lifestyle.

It is other nutjobs turn now.

Leave Oodnagullarbie out of this, it is a quiet little oasis of sanity and has managed to evade religious wars for centuries, mainly by kicking the bejesus out of any bible bashing mongrel who sets foot in town, no matter what religion they’re selling,
They threw the last one who entered town , into the local waterhole, which did nothing to pacify the attitude of the old salty who inhabits said waterhole,
There’s no discrimination in that town, they hate everyone,

I think you've managed to out-Byron Byron.

Simply outstanding

I swing like hell but know full well that I won't win the fight, but big man I'm the beta male that's gonna ruin your night...

Was amazing that Abbott abstained when the final vote came, after all the bluster for the past few years about the end of Christian civilisation. Maybe he was being pragmatic and thinking about next election. Did the opposing parliamentarians walk out before or after the vote? Only four voted against - what a complete opposite to about 13 years ago under backward Howard.

Malcolm Knox: What has happened this week is a pity for the Tigers, a pity for Jason Taylor and a pity for Robbie Farah, who had achieved more than the Big Four put together but was somehow turned into collateral damage. (SMH 25-26 March, 2017)

Earl,
You call their arguments childish, and 10 seconds later . . . you call them names.
Funny indeed.
Actually, looking back at this thread your go-to argument is to call people that hold opposing views to yours, "morons".
So left.

This is where you guys get caught out. I'm not on the left. I'm far right. I believe in small governments, equal rights for everyone and the free market.