not surprising, but I am curious as to what the next generation will give us. Project Cafe seems to only have two things: More power, which was a given, and a gimmick on the controller. Hopefully Microsoft and Sony have something innovative, instead of just more power. I want games to be like this.

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It's not JUST more power, it's A LOT more power. Ultimately that's all that matters. Gimmicks do sell consoles but they wear off eventually. More power really means that developers have more room to work with in terms of game scale and graphics quality. For most "gamers", that matters far more than things such as motion control and screens in the controller (which just seems to be a terrible idea anyways).

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A screen in the controller is a pretty neat idea I think.. I mean the way dual screens work on the DS is great by practically negating the pause menu. You also have the benefit if the screen allows this (I don't see why it wouldn't) of taking the game portable. Let's say it's a nice day out and you want to play games but you don't want to miss out on the sun, you can take the game out into the garden and play it there. Nothing bad about that really.

not surprising, but I am curious as to what the next generation will give us. Project Cafe seems to only have two things: More power, which was a given, and a gimmick on the controller. Hopefully Microsoft and Sony have something innovative, instead of just more power. I want games to be like this.

How is that video not just more power

True, but there is no gameplay shown. Probably should have created a new paragraph for that last sentence. I still want the games to be more powerful. Besides, not all innovation has to be on the gameplay/controller side of things either.

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That video is false because that video does not contain gameplay. That kind of graphics can be achieved in any CGI films.

And one thing is certain, if Nintendo releases Wii2 early then both Sony and Microsoft need to rush their consoles otherwise, they would lose a lot of their gaming industry market share thanks to the Nintendo's "Casual gamer fanbase"

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Those games looking good to you is an opinion. I'm talking about numbers and processing power. I personally think games on both consoles look like garbage with their 600 x 400 texture resolution upscaled and stretched to fit someones 52" HD TV.

How can you say the Cel has no power??? I have yet to see a xbox 360 game that looks like killzone3, or uncharted...I have both consoles, so im no fanboy...

To be fair, a lot of stuff in Uncharted 2 looked terrible, Naughty Dog is just a skilled developer and knows how to hide it right.

WipEout HD is the only console game that impressed me with its visuals, but that was just art style and lighting. I can't believe people still think (not anyone on Neo.. really) Uncharted 2 and Killzone 3 has the best graphics out of any video game (btw I'm aware you only compared it to the 360) period.

I was on a forum where the people were debating whether Killzone 2 or Crysis looked better

That video is false because that video does not contain gameplay. That kind of graphics can be achieved in any CGI films.

That was an in-game demonstration from their new engine.

Yes, but what I mean is, what they showed wasn't better than PS3 or Xbox360. So, like you said, we still got not much info on it and Wii U may turn out as a hardware powerhouse like the surprise PS Vita gave everyone.

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WipEout HD is the only console game that impressed me with its visuals, but that was just art style and lighting. I can't believe people still think (not anyone on Neo.. really) Uncharted 2 and Killzone 3 has the best graphics out of any video game (btw I'm aware you only compared it to the 360) period.

That's true. Wipeout HD and Killzone 3 are the best looking games till date.And your comment on Uncharted 2 was right as well. What we need to know is that developers are getting limited by the hardware of Xbox360 and PS3 because the ways of making software are always evolving and this kind of situation always occur once in a decade of gaming.

The same has happened with PSX, PS2, Atari, Xbox, GBA etc.

That is the reason of making newer consoles. So that developers feel better and satisfied.

Because Nintendo has shocked us before by straying away from the very methods that make them tons of *bleep*ing money. Oh wait...

It'll be yet another console that caters to the casual crowd. And I have absolutely no problem with that. I myself hate casual games (except the ones made by Pop Cap games) and I have a disdain for casual gamers, but it'll keep a few annoying children away from the PS4 for a bit longer. Isn't that something we should be glad about?