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Tracking the Knicks with SportVU

Last Friday, NBA.com made SportVU player tracking data available to the public for the first time. It’s just the latest development in the fast-moving basketball analytics revolution, but it portends a massive shift, not only in how we watch games, but also how we value players, rate coaches and evaluate front office decisions. Using cameras perched high above the floors of all 29 NBA arenas, STATS LLC has already influenced how teams make such determinations, but now, for better or worse, we fans get an invite to the party, too.

Predictably, with change comes ideological conflict. The basketball analytics movement pits old-school eye testers versus new school statisticians. Reasonable people seek the middle ground, and rightly so. What my-own-two-eyes tell me (“MOTE”) and advanced analytics each lend a distinct perspective on the game, but neither should be treated as definitive and neither should be ignored. Instead, SportVU, which tracks player movement and distills same into useful data, is that middle ground. (I wrote about four of the new SportVU categories over at NBA.com, but there are actually nine total metrics available. You can check them out here.)

Knicks fans make for a fascinating case study in connection with the stats v. MOTE debate. The New York fan-base vacillates daily on which lineups coach Woodson should play, just how valuable the club’s players are. Take the Andrea Bargnani acquisition, for example. That deal was generally lambasted by the analytics crowd, but lauded by eye-testers. Perhaps more than most of his peers, Bargnani is a quintessential flashpoint player for these kinds of discussions. Part of it stems from the fact that he is a seven-footer with unique offensive skills. Part of it is because he was drafted number one overall by the Toronto Raptors. Those who rely upon MOTE point to what Bargnani can do on a basketball court, in theory. He is a versatile pick-and-pop big who can shoot from a variety of spots on the court. Stats folks, however, will tell you that Bargnani has been a well below average player over past four seasons by most any statistical measure.

Enter SportVU.

While the system won’t conclusively end every such debate — whether we’re arguing about Bargnani or anyone else — it can provide context and a relative value of the data that is generated. By measuring certain aspects of the game, including, but not limited to, catch-and-shoot jumpers or rim protection, we can begin to determine if there is a correlation between how we view players versus what the raw numbers suggest about those same players. Unfortunately, the sample size is ridiculously small at this point, so there aren’t many, if any, meaningful conclusions to be drawn. And though the currently available data is not expansive – SportVU has released only a handful of the data it collects - we can glean some information about the Knicks team as presently constituted.

Defensive Impact

In the world of basketball analytics, the advancement of good defensive metrics lags far behind what has been accomplished in evaluating offense. Defense, of course, tends to be more team-oriented, and as such, it is difficult to quantitatively measure players on an individual basis. SportVU does track basic defensive actions like blocks and steals, but it also measures defensive rim protection — defined as an opponent’s FG% when said defensive player is within five feet of both the basket and the opponent.

In a perfect world, the aforementioned metric would have been available for each of the last two seasons. For example, how did Tyson Chandler’s rim protection numbers differ? MOTE tells us that he was a much better in 2011 — he won the Defensive Player of the Year Award – and the numbers were certainly down in his injury-riddled 2012 campaign, but to what extent did his defense actually suffer versus what our perception was? Through the first three games of this young season, Chandler “looks” closer to peak-form than I’m-getting-abused-by-Roy-Hibbert-please-get-me-outta-here form. Do the numbers bear that out, though? Eventually, the data pool will be deep enough for us to come to a definitive conclusion.

On the flip side, it will be interesting — and probably depressing — to see the rim protection statistics for the Knicks’ other big men, namely Andrea Bargnani and Amar’e Stoudemire, in particular. Both Bargnani and Stoudemire are universally recognized as horrible defenders, especially given their size, but with SportVU, assuming they actually play, we will are almost certain to achieve clarity on exactly how bad they are. Granted, the rim protection metric won’t be able to account for the times when Stoudemire inexplicably runs the wrong way when defending a pick-and-roll — it usually feels like he is farther than five feet from the guy he is supposed to be defending — but the system should be able to help confirm what we already know.

Catch and Shoot

Catch and shoot stats measure how effective a player is at converting jump shot attempts from outside ten feet of the basket after no dribbles within two seconds of catching the ball. Notably, this metric differs from the “spot-up” category on Synergy. SportVU will allow us to see exactly how someone like J.R. Smith — a player whose abilities and usefulness are incessantly debated — does in catch-and-shoot versus isolation or post-up, so that we can discern something about how he should be adjusting his offensive approach. MOTE tells me that Smith is much better in catch-and-shoot as opposed to isolation and/or contested step-back jumpers, and though Synergy backs up that assertion to some degree, SportVU will give us even more ammunition when yelling at the television.

Pull Up

Pull-up jumper efficiency is extremely critical for the Knicks. The aforementioned Smith, Carmelo Anthony, Iman Shumpert and Tim Hardaway, Jr. all rely on upon pull-ups, to some degree, as part of their offensive games. (SportVU defines a pull-up as shooting after taking at least one dribble.) For ’Melo, however, this metric becomes even more important because of his propensity to take pull-up threes in transition. Sure, it’s a real crowd-pleaser when he converts those kinds of attempts, but it is also painfully frustrating when he misses, mostly because those shots come at the expense of open teammates running the floor alongside him. There has been a lack of consensus on whether Anthony is actually good at these shots, too, but between Synergy’s transition numbers and SportVU’s pull-up metric, even this debate should be rendered moot once the data set expands over time.

Passing

With the arrival of SportVU, no longer must passing be quantified solely by assists. Assists are a flawed metric, anyway. For example, great passes made to wide-open shooters who miss are not credited as assists. Once again, SportVU to the rescue! “Assist opportunities per game” charts how many potential assists a player amasses in a contest. Utilizing the system’s data on in-game touches in conjunction with a conventional analytic like USG%, we are able to track how Raymond Felton stacks up against other point guards in creating opportunities for his teammates. We can take his touches-per-game and potential assists, and use those numbers to compare his effectiveness as a facilitator. Taking things even further via SportVU, we can track Felton’s efficiency on drives to the hoop, and make reasonable inferences about his overall usefulness.

Taking a page out of the NHL’s book with respect to passing, SportVU also tracks ”secondary assists-per-game”. Defined as the “Quantity of passes made by a player to the player who earned an assist on a made shot. [Primary] assister must make a pass within 2 seconds and 1 dribble for the [original] passer to earn a secondary assist.” One only need be a casual Knicks’ fan to see the value of this metric. Take Anthony again, he of the reputation as an isolation-fiend. Had we been able to access SportVU during previous seasons, it would have been fascinating to see how ‘Melo graded out. Last season, in particular, the Knicks’ spread offense was so effective because of Carmelo’s ability to draw and recognize double teams in the post, and initiate perimeter ball movement by kicking it back out. Essentially, while Anthony’s assist numbers were nothing to write home about in 2012-13, he probably compiled secondary assists galore. And sure, Anthony wouldn’t have been credited when more than one pass was made after he passed out of double teams, but we surely would have a better perspective on just how valuable his passing was to the team’s overall offensive strategy.

The NBA’s analytics movement is clearly here to stay. Between the front offices, the media and the fans, we all have the opportunity to look at the game of basketball in ways that were impossible even 20 years ago. And as the data becomes more voluminous, we will be able to come to even better conclusions about the best ways to take advantage of what players do well and avoid what they don’t. Make no mistake, this is a big deal. SportVU is the next step in the evolution revolution, and we’re lucky to have access to such data, even if it’s in a limited fashion.

So we got 2 bums in Chandler and Amare making 160 mill a year, but our season depends on a ni99a makin 2 mill a year

GottaKeepItReal

Tysons your boy tho, how you gonna do him like that

LebronDaDon-datta

nigggas not making 160m a year kid

DJ Mbenga da GOAT

herberto math

Boberto

Bumare 100 mill, Tysoft 60 mill.

DJ Mbenga da GOAT

again…not per year

LebronDaDon-datta

hahah but still overpaid, damn i forgot Chandler getting 60M out of us.. Hopw many years too? 3?

Boberto

one of the worst contracts in the NBA

LebronDaDon-datta

we have damn near 2 of the worst contracts (reserved on chandler… Stat gave us a mvp type season too)
spending money like this makes it hard 4 us to compete.. The fact that a niggga makes 2mil a year & we have to rely on him shows our Gms/owners are trash

Boberto

he gave us 2 games over .500… for half a year. Thats it. Neither Tysoft or Bumare showed up for 1 playoff series

LebronDaDon-datta

lmaoo haha true, that squad he had wasn’t so bad now that i think about it

Boberto

i put a year by accident. they’re gonna steal 160 mill by the end of their contracts cuz we know nobodys dumb enough to trade for either of them

LebronDaDon-datta

how many gms it take to put together this fking team?

GottaKeepItReal

lol true, this organiziton is so bum…sign a bunch of specialists opposed to 2-way players. Dont think weve had 1 2way player as a starter for years

LebronDaDon-datta

yoo… thats sad, took me a min to think of a 2way player

GottaKeepItReal

forreal, smdh

Boberto

If you combine the amount of playoff series Tysoft and Bumare have showed up for since they’ve been Knicks. You get 0

GottaKeepItReal

you talk bout TC more than anyone on this planet deadass…dude seems to always be on your mind

Boberto

Hes wacker than anyone on this planet… deadass

GottaKeepItReal

I would love to watch a playoff game w you and watch your reactions to tyson, that sht would be hilarious

Boberto

imma keep talkin bout that ni99a until he shows up for the playoffs, which is most likely gonna be never

LebronDaDon-datta

gonna be the last year of his contract so we can resign him

Boberto

Bill Walker, the 2 way player

LebronDaDon-datta

ya 2k broken? i went on the other day, been a min since u been on

Boberto

yea i dont play video games no more. i aint gonna cop the new systems so i just sold my shit

LebronDaDon-datta

word, how much u get 4it?

Boberto

40, nobody wants that shit. it was horrible

LebronDaDon-datta

u crack head ass niggga, 40bills? niggga needed gas that bad.. Shits a waste of time but still, I’ll keep it for 40

I havent had a system since I graduated college, like 1.5 yrs ago, so im hyped

Boberto

which one u gettin?

GottaKeepItReal

had an xbox for a minute, but most of the homies goin w ps4, so switch back

LebronDaDon-datta

i got my xbox by taking it outta some1′s hom,e, u think the news1 are protected against that shit?
haha i didn’t go online for 3 years till i knew the coast was clear

GottaKeepItReal

lol I dunno, they prolly got mad security

LebronDaDon-datta

i caught these asians slippin 1time,but im thinkin next time i gett a chance ima just sell it instead.. buy my own after

Boberto

lmaoo da fuck. U went into sum1s house and stole an xbox lol?

LebronDaDon-datta

word, shits different in the burbs.. nigggas leave their garage open at 2 in the morn like i aint gonna do some investigating.. u would of too if u seen the house

Boberto

aint worth it.. for an xbox?

LebronDaDon-datta

niggga i walked up to the garage, all the lights were out.. opened the door, & just heard them snoring.. thats all im saying, u would of done the same

Boberto

ive stolen shit before, but not out of sum1s house lol

Boberto

where u live at?

GottaKeepItReal

werd be careful, some of these dudes will sue/snitch

Boberto

Yo Lebrondajinx, where u from?

BxNY4LIFE

Dolan has become such a hands-on owner — figuratively speaking — that,
according to a source, he doesn’t want the dancers dancing. Crazy,
right? The same guy who wanted creative input on the dancers’ outfits
(and he’s good at it) apparently ordered that the girls’ roles be
reduced to mostly throwing T-shirts into the crowd. They performed maybe
one routine on Sunday.

Man I got this new COD and I suck smh….never been bad at a COD but everytime I turn around im getting shot in the back

GottaKeepItReal

too many nigs be real nice at that, compared to the avg player

kobefan2420

im usually real nice lol…im not no average dude but they made the maps so big that u get shot in the back alot

LebronDaDon-datta

tryin 2 copy battlefield

GottaKeepItReal

werd I aint nice, so I get merked nonstop online

LebronDaDon-datta

what u tryin 2 say? the game is bad or u just r?

kobefan2420

im bad right now…its different that most cod games

LebronDaDon-datta

i c u, wordd i think ima go after battlefield.. i hate cod, worse than madden & 2k. they release 2 games a year

Boberto

Mrkobefan sold his xbox after i destroyed him in 2k. Tru Story

LebronDaDon-datta

bet this niggga got more than 40 for it tho

21shumpstreet_DPOY

bet i can beat y’all

LebronDaDon-datta

lmaooo named after the niggga with no j tho

21shumpstreet_DPOY

maaan open your eyes when you watch the game.. ya have no chance faggot

LebronDaDon-datta

lmaooo pay them tolls child

21shumpstreet_DPOY

he plays silent offensively and his j looks awesome dude!
i would score at least 25 with him in 2k against you

Boberto

2k not gonna be sold for anything more than 45 son

kobefan2420

lol stop it

Boberto

Yo lebrondajinx, da fuc u live at son where u can jus rob ni99as houses like that lmao

LebronDaDon-datta

ronkonkoma but this was near my boys appartment out in setauket, where the nice ass houses are

Boberto

i know where thas at ni99a. thas by stony brook shit ni99a i aint kno u lived in white mans land

LebronDaDon-datta

lmaoooooo

BxNY4LIFE

what’s with all this BS XBox video game talk…don’t the knicks play in less than 3 hrs? smh…

Boberto

ni99a if we was talkin bout pussy ud be here saying

“whats with all this BS pussy talk”

BxNY4LIFE

need to be talking about Melo saying it’s going to be all iso time come 4th quarter…because he can’t walk and chew gum at the same time…lmaO_o

21shumpstreet_DPOY

depends who will defend him.. but he can and will do it

BxNY4LIFE

Woodson going to dial up iso Melo all the time everytime…and it wont matter who’s guarding him

21shumpstreet_DPOY

but his success will..

BxNY4LIFE

he has to shoot better than 37% and get more assists

21shumpstreet_DPOY

yeah totally! he will draw lots of doubleteams today if he has a good start –> he HAS to have more assist

BxNY4LIFE

to hell with a good start..I would love to see a consistent Melo the entire game

21shumpstreet_DPOY

last year he often had a good start and so the D got more intense on him and he just had no vision for the open guy… so his passing must improve

BxNY4LIFE

Agreed .. which is what I’ve been saying all this this time

21shumpstreet_DPOY

and 4 turnovers/game does not help this struggling teaam

LebronDaDon-datta

niggga averaging 11 rebs right now, if can he keep that shit up while his shots off.. Ima cut him slack

BxNY4LIFE

Melo isn’t a superstar because of his rebounding…all well and good..but scoring and assist is what’s needed….it would be nice if we can get some and 1 too because his a$$ decides to go to the rim

GottaKeepItReal

no one else good enough to score/create their own show when the D amps up in the 4th…theres a reason why hes always isod

Long.Live.A$AP

Knicks lottery bound team by ESPN

LebronDaDon-datta

nigggas dont realize we dont have a pick

Long.Live.A$AP

lmao

GottaKeepItReal

such fail

LebronDaDon-datta

how many rebounds chandler get in that disgraceful loss?

Boberto

he wasnt wack in the game, he was just invisible

BxNY4LIFE

why do you guys always deflect blame from the core topic?

Boberto

whats the core topic? how u get no pussy?

BxNY4LIFE

your moms giving you some pu$$y again?

21shumpstreet_DPOY

12

Boberto

Tysoft, the master at dropping passes

GottaKeepItReal

he gets so shook around the rim, nikka always gettn bullied in the paint like Jonathan Martn on mia

Boberto

lol, most these ni99as that come out of high school are fake tough guys and shook ones

BxNY4LIFE

I think Melo leadership qualities has to get better…lead by example

Boberto

lead who? the bums on this team?

BxNY4LIFE

stop with the BS bob…step to someone else with that…I’m not a pessimist like you…

Boberto

i aint a pessimist. Im a realist

BxNY4LIFE

the only thing real about your thoughts is….NOTHING…BLANK…ZERO….NADA….

Boberto

cool

Boberto

I told u bums last year year. the same bums that called last year a successful season. OUR CHANCE TO WIN IS OVER. it was either last year or never. This years team is way worse than what we had last year and missing true vets

21shumpstreet_DPOY

just cuz of the tough start?? this knicks team will lose couple of more games now but they will get a great chemistry soon!!

Boberto

We needa bring back ni99as like Rasheed, kurt thomas, Jason Kidd.

GottaKeepItReal

for showing up in the playoffs last year?

Boberto

ni99a we aint even gonna make the playoffs with this team lmao

Boberto

We needa fire the Knicks medical staff. Fire the trainers, fire roger hinds. Fire any ni99a that deals with player injuries.

BxNY4LIFE

the only person that needs firing is the owner Dolan

21shumpstreet_DPOY

hey boberto.. heard u suck at 2k

Boberto

you herd right

21shumpstreet_DPOY

wanna play a game?

Boberto

i sold my game already

21shumpstreet_DPOY

oh okay

BxNY4LIFE

I guess Twolves got a dose of reality last night losing to the Cavs..their best quarter was the 4th where they scored 31 points…we better get our sheet together

21shumpstreet_DPOY

love couldn’t get anything goin from deep and TT was awesome

BxNY4LIFE

I’m out…pce

Lawrence Smith

I’m gonna check this out.

Boberto

check what out

Lawrence Smith

Sports VU.

Boberto

shit is garbage just like everything else they put on that site

Lawrence Smith

Word? I still haven’t checked it out yet. Maybe after the game.

Gold

Win this game.

Knickels n Dimes

I know its u fly

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

damn, who’s the second bitch?

21shumpstreet_DPOY

bobcats will score less than 90

21shumpstreet_DPOY

or even 80

BxNY4LIFE

tonight is going to be a test to see which team rules the roost … two games being played in the city at the same time … I wonder which one will be filled to capacity

Boberto

ni99a i thought u was out herb. U betta bac the fuc up fo u get smacked the fuck up by my ni99a Lawrence

BxNY4LIFE

WTF is up with you?….you need to calm down son

BxNY4LIFE

1hr and 40mins to go…..we’ll soon see what Woodson has in store

BxNY4LIFE

Maybe Woodson should consider starting MWP for D instead of Bargs…then go back to Bargs starting when JR returns

Long.Live.A$AP

Gold is the new fly

NYC IS THE BEST

for real? I could tell tho

BxNY4LIFE

COUNTDOWN: 1hr and 6mins to see Woodsons plan of action

Long.Live.A$AP

till we lose

BxNY4LIFE

I see the Boberto syndrome is all up in you…lo_Ol….. if we lose tonight then we have bigger problems than we thought

LebronDaDon-datta

basketball needs 2do something about these contracts

Boberto

they needa have a clause to get rid of outrageous contracts like Bumare and Tysoft

LebronDaDon-datta

nah if a niggga can’t even play half of the games, half the contract should be withheld or some shit

largehrdsports

So you don’t like guaranteed contracts.

LebronDaDon-datta

if a niggga cant play i dont think u deserve the money, yeah.. but i know where the blame lies

largehrdsports

What if he had been in a car wreck or a life threaten illness? You say fxck him or pay him?

LebronDaDon-datta

insured contract, just keep it the fuck off of cap shits not hard to fix kid

largehrdsports

But the contracts are guaranteed. You have a problem with guaranteed contracts–it guarantees that a person gets paid even if he can’t perform his duties. You want the contract system the NFL uses.

LebronDaDon-datta

something should be done about a contract if that player can hardly finish it, on the court

Lawrence Smith

Where is everyone.

kobefan2420

wats good ya bish

Long.Live.A$AP

fuck kendrick

Boberto

ni99a this aint ESPN

BxNY4LIFE

here

kobefan2420

poetic justice>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any song asap ever made

Long.Live.A$AP

No ni99a poetic justice aint even all that wit out drake

LebronDaDon-datta

ehhh

Lawrence Smith

Ya’ll missed my back and forth with that dude that does sports for the WSJ.

largehrdsports

On this blog?

Lawrence Smith

Nah on twitter.

LebronDaDon-datta

about what?

Lawrence Smith

About “spacing”. He tried to say the spacing was bad with Bargnani on the court……which is causing Melo to miss his shots or take bad shots. I say that’s not true and I showed him why I think its not true.

LebronDaDon-datta

word he just making an excuse for Melo, he’s getting his looks

kobefan2420

it isn’t true…that is an excuse…first off shooters don’t need space to shoot so that’s melo problem….secondly spacing is not a problem…y is it that every other team can play a natural lineup but when knicks do it they have spacing problems smh

Lawrence Smith

Exactly. It’s the biggest cop out excuse of all times. I actually posted him photos of melo taking shots so he could see what the spacing was like during the shot attempt.

kobefan2420

whats dude name?

Lawrence Smith

@HerringWSJ

largehrdsports

Very nice!

largehrdsports

I want to read this. Help me out Law.

Lawrence Smith

just go to my twitter. lawrenceS59. You should be able to find everything there.

Long.Live.A$AP

A$AP Mob>TDE

kobefan2420

u=crack

Knickels n Dimes

AFAG Mob < Nick Cannon

LebronDaDon-datta

thats lazy as hell if u blame the spacing

BxNY4LIFE

spacing isn’t the problem…Melo throwing up low % bricks is

LebronDaDon-datta

he is getting his looks tho, who u want taking the shot when the clocks running down, if anything they should run the clock like kid had them do when he was in, keep passing & if theres not easy shot, Melo

BxNY4LIFE

drive to the basket and stop settling …also Felton needs to get the ball up the court in a timely manner

BxNY4LIFE

It’s one thing to love how Melo plays…but when he plays like crap you have to say he’s playing like crap

LebronDaDon-datta

no1 here saying otherwise, nigggas just blaming different people here

Lawrence Smith

We agree on this. I don’t think he’s playing like complete crap tho. He’s rebounding, he’s getting steals, he’s even got some assist and block shots a long the way. He’s just shooting poorly.

BxNY4LIFE

Agreed…but as a superstar he has to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time

Lawrence Smith

Agreed.

Lawrence Smith

largehrdsports

check my twitter. you should be able to see it there. lawrenceS59.

largehrdsports

Thanks

BxNY4LIFE

I think Felton is doing this team a disservice

kobefan2420

I agree with rolle 100% about martin

BxNY4LIFE

Agreed…all this press sticking up for Martin maybe because he’s a Jason Collins..they didn’t know that this happens in pro sports…NEWS FLASH!!! lmaO_o

Lawrence Smith

No doubt. He’s a grown man lettin another man punk him….in the NFL. GTFOH with that runnin to the principal shite.

kobefan2420

exactly…I don’t agree with the notion that rookies have to pay their dues either. They are drafted to play football/basketball not do jobs for other players. I would never gets hazed if I was a rookie

BxNY4LIFE

yeah you would…it’s tradition

kobefan2420

no I wouldn’t. It aint a tradition for me. U don’t know me. I would tell them when I get their that im not doing nothing for them n if they try me we fighting..im their to play sports not to be bossed around

21shumpstreet_DPOY

nobody would like you… maybe some guys wont pass to you… chemistry would be awful man

Boberto

Chris Herring on WSJ is a herb. imma herb that ni99a

Boberto

Jonathan Martin and Tysoft are of the same kind

21shumpstreet_DPOY

amare will have at least one poster on cody today! lool

BxNY4LIFE

Oh sheet..you guys need to put your TV on fox and watch Inside Edition…you have to careful about the women you meet now a days…it will be on soon

kobefan2420

Yall remember when dez didn’t carry roy Williams pads?? That’s when he became one of my favorite players

Lawrence Smith

There was a possession in the game where Melo beat Corey Brewer(I think it was him) baseline and instead of going straight up, he did a reverse move and missed. You know why he did a reverse move? Because HUGE Ricky Rubio came over to help. That’s the type of decisions Melos been making that are leading to misses. That’s on him. Once he starts getting his groove he’ll stop doing stupid shite like that.

BxNY4LIFE

Air Ball …lmaO_o

Boberto

eh i ono about doin stupid shit. His shot is just off and he hasnt been able to hit layups in like 2 years

Lawrence Smith

You gonna do an up and under move because Rubio shades over? HEEELLLLL NO. I’m bangin it on him. Melo’s 6’8″. Dunk it on that little ninja.

Lawrence Smith

Yo kobe, you would definitely get hazed. ain’t no getting around it. Dez wouldn’t carry Roys pads but that’s not to say someone else didn’t get him. Remember in hard knocks(Jets) when one of the rookies tried to break fly? They tied his asse to the FG post and poured shite on him. Vets don’t play when it comes to their traditions.

Boberto

do they haze rookie kickers?

kobefan2420

no I wouldn’t it is getting around it…people only get hazed cuz they allow it…u think if I told them I would fight every last one of them if they try me they would haze me? I don’t play that bs

Lawrence Smith

Trust, you not fighting James Harrison.

kobefan2420

lol I would fight anyone…I didn’t say I would win but they would kno im not a person that play those games

21shumpstreet_DPOY

people dont get ‘hazed’.. its fun dude! they are all laughing

kobefan2420

but I don’t think its funny

21shumpstreet_DPOY

i think its all on the ‘hazed’ guy… if he takes it funny everbody is happy.. if not, like you, theres a bad atmosphere on the team

21shumpstreet_DPOY

take it easy

kobefan2420

that’s y I said I would let them kno from to start to not mess wit me so if they do it wont be a surprise when we start fighting lol

Lawrence Smith

u gonna do an up and under move because Rubio shades over? HEEELLLLL NO. I’m bangin it on him. Melo’s 6’8″. Dunk it on that little ninja.

Boberto

Melo aint got no more hops man. he can barely hit layups anymore. Sad but it is what it is

BxNY4LIFE

check out Inside Edition now

BxNY4LIFE

Justin change his name to Nikki…tranny…lmaO_o

kobefan2420

Lawrence what u did the jets player do when the vets got him??? See I wouldn’t let that slide…we would be fighting…that ish aint no joke to me…I would bust their car up after we done fighting too…it would be a back and forth thing….rookies take it instead of fighting back but people like me dnt think its a joke

Boberto

ni99a if u were put in that position u would do the same shit. it would be like 10 against 1. All rookies go thru that shit. All the vets went thru it when they were rookies, It aint shit but a tradition

Lawrence Smith

Exactly.

kobefan2420

u aint hearing what im saying…I don’t care about what others went thru lol…that aint my problem…I would let them know from the start we fighting if they try anything and if its 10 of them im getting them back one by one…im not everyone else I don’t accept what everybody else accepts

Boberto

ni99a u wouldnt get nobody tho lmao thats what im tryna say. only way u get them ni99as is outside if u got a gun or bring all ya poeple with u. then u would just be an idiot who threw away his NFL career

kobefan2420

son so u don’t think I could get some car or get them while they not thinking about it? u don’t kno me lol

Lawrence Smith

kobe kobe kobe. it happens at every level. I’m assuming you didn’t play a sport because it happens in high school, college, and in the pros. you just deal with it and move on. it’s not fight worthy. just get the damn donuts and sing me happy birthday.

Boberto

that shit dont happen in high school lmao

Lawrence Smith

If you’re a freshman/sophmore trying to be on varsity? Sure it does.

kobefan2420

they did try it in high school but I aint do it…..I got balls unlike yall ni99as

Lawrence Smith

You had some easy goin ninjas on your squad then.

kobefan2420

no I didn’t…if they tried anything we would be fighting or I would get them back…im not just gonna take it smh where they do that at

Boberto

it was all white people lol

Boberto

nah not in NYC, i dont know how they do it upstate lol

kobefan2420

lol that’s the way yall raised and I did play high school ball and if they tried to make me carry someone bag I didn’t do it. Like I said I dnt carry another mans bag or do another mans job lol. Its in my blood

Boberto

ur white?

Knickels n Dimes

word same wit me, but I guess hazing is different in the NFL, cuz the players are more intimidating I guess…

21shumpstreet_DPOY

maaan kobedude why so serious??

Lawrence Smith

That ninja Prince A on the Giants tried that mess Kobe. He wound up in a cold tub thanks to JPP. They will get you my dude. And the harder you fight it the worse it is. It’s not even hard shite they make them do. You gonna get mad if they want you to sing? Get the donuts? Come on now. Those type of situations aint made for your pride.

kobefan2420

but what did he do after they got him…see that’s the point u missing they might get me but I WILL get them back or we gonna fight…its as simple as that….we would be going back in forth

kobefan2420

that’s what u do not me lol….I aint buying nothing I don’t want too….only way im getting donuts for somebody is if im buying me some for myself lol

BxNY4LIFE

when you meet a girl now a days…one very important question to ask for clarity is…we’re you born a girl or a boy?…lmaO_o

Knickels n Dimes

…………….

Boberto

nah

Long.Live.A$AP

maybe for you

Knickels n Dimes

exactly

Ciroc_NesBoogie718

What yall talkin about?

largehrdsports

Just exchanging recipes and what not

Knickels n Dimes

we talkin bout how u a fag

LebronDaDon-datta

Kobe tellin em how he is clearly a superior being

kobefan2420

not at all….never said I would knock dudes out or nothing like that but I wouldn’t do anything that doesn’t involve the sport im playing

Knickels n Dimes

hes just kiddin

21shumpstreet_DPOY

i hope so

LebronDaDon-datta

niggga who u?

Knickels n Dimes

he a rookie

LebronDaDon-datta

every1 gets hazed here, rookies gotta

Knickels n Dimes

word

21shumpstreet_DPOY

i just like that page here

21shumpstreet_DPOY

dude cant be serious

LebronDaDon-datta

hahah nah u right, that im too good for this shitt is how it coming off tho

Boberto

BX ended up wifing a tranny cuz he aint ask him what gender he was born as

DJ Mbenga da GOAT

waddup fellas? let’s go nyk

21shumpstreet_DPOY

bargs starts…

DJ Mbenga da GOAT

let’s hope he’s on his game tonight then

LebronDaDon-datta

…

DJ Mbenga da GOAT

lmaoooo gotta keep the faith

21shumpstreet_DPOY

he’ll find his touch tonight

danny55885588

kemba walker gonna drop 40+ tonight.

DJ Mbenga da GOAT

i don’t think you know 40+ words

21shumpstreet_DPOY

agreed

Lawrence Smith

Kobe, trust me, I understand what you’re saying. At my high school there was a freshman hazing day. I didn’t get hazed. Freshman year i was 5’9″ 190. Most high school cats is 150-170. They wasn’t runnin up on me like that. They tried 1 time and realized it was a bad idea.

kobefan2420

Question if yall got dumped like prince yall wouldn’t try to fight?

Knickels n Dimes

u mean while they were carryin me too the ice bath? yea

kobefan2420

after

Knickels n Dimes

oh, well there would be no point cuz somebody gonna break it up, and especially if I’m Prince, and JPP or Tuck did it, I aint tryin to fight dem, cuz they gonna fuck me up

LebronDaDon-datta

what?

kobefan2420

u remember jpp dumped him in the ice bath

LebronDaDon-datta

oh yeahhh, prob not gonna stress that but depends on the type of day i was having

Lawrence Smith

you tryin to fight JPP? you wild.

kobefan2420

first off if im in the nfl I would be huge but that’s beside the point…u wouldn’t fight a dude cuz he big? I would use a weapon or something lol

21shumpstreet_DPOY

u cant be serious right now

LebronDaDon-datta

what u gonna do if u have 2 fight a bigg ass gorilla niggga?

21shumpstreet_DPOY

dude we are talking bout rookiehazement

Knickels n Dimes

prince is like 5’10 190, JPP is 6’7 280….. thats like askin for a ass whoopin

Lawrence Smith

My guy, Lets assume you Prince A, That mean you 6 foot 200 pounds. JPP is like 6’6″ 285 easy. That’s a L you don’t want in your life.

21shumpstreet_DPOY

no

kobefan2420

LOl yall dudes some punks hahaha…dudes said they wouldn’t fight cuz a guy is big smh….u better use a weapon or something… @21 u sweet lol

Karma kicked in and said “aight nikka, you not lookin like enough of a bum tonight. time to get hurt”

Hollis2Hollywood

Melo isn’t being aggressive enough IMO

Lawrence Smith

So who’s fault is it that Melo is missing shots tonight?

Long.Live.A$AP

Now what shump

21shumpstreet_DPOY

uh maan 3/4.. why is he in the nba?

Back The Money Truck up….

Is that Chris Smith putting ice on TC leg??? Lol

Hollis2Hollywood

nah…he ain’t ready for that job yet. he’s still in charge of putting the ice in the freezer

LebronDaDon-datta

lmaoo chilll

Back The Money Truck up….

Lol

Knickels n Dimes

holy shit, that is, oh I’m laughin too hard right now

Back The Money Truck up….

I knew it!!!!! Lmao

Knickels n Dimes

as soon as we give this ni99a a compliment, he gets hurt…. god damn….

Long.Live.A$AP

lmao chris smith said i got you

Long.Live.A$AP

Tysoft got no muscle on them legs what you expect

largehrdsports

If this was any other team but the Bobcats we’d be down by 15 about now

Boberto

I hate to say this but, Melo has been complete trash this year. like awful

Long.Live.A$AP

I’m wit you

largehrdsports

He looks overweight too.

Hollis2Hollywood

you do know he wears a flak jacket under his jersey right?

largehrdsports

Yup. But that ass is looking high.

Hollis2Hollywood

whoa….

Back The Money Truck up….

Lmao…..

21shumpstreet_DPOY

based on the money yes… sad but true

Hollis2Hollywood

You can tell you sucked growing up. The dudes that never play always overreact lol

Boberto

nah i was aigh. Why u gettin so sensitive lately b

Hollis2Hollywood

I barely been on lately lol

Pushingkeys

shump is the only dude who plays like he hates to lose.

Boberto

Tysoft was having a good game so far, but he’ll never do it in the playoffs. only against scrubs

BxNY4LIFE

that looks like a ACL or MCL…and we have no big to replace

Boberto

he banged knees. he’ll be fine prolly a bruise

BxNY4LIFE

it buckled

Long.Live.A$AP

i thought he rolled his ankle

Lawrence Smith

If it was he’d be in the back.

Hollis2Hollywood

just went lol

BxNY4LIFE

the pain is killing him on the bench..

BxNY4LIFE

I’m praying for a miracle..only a strain

Long.Live.A$AP

Damn we def suck now that tyson can’t even walk

BxNY4LIFE

Please be a strain …Please Please Please

Back The Money Truck up….

Stat passing that Knee disease around….SMH

Hollis2Hollywood

Kemba is going to murder Shitioni

Elnino_201

tyson probably got a bone bruise

Knickels n Dimes

da fuck u come from?

Elnino_201

gym lol

BxNY4LIFE

fingers crossed

Long.Live.A$AP

Wiz Kalifa getting ready

Hollis2Hollywood

lol Wack and Yellow

Elnino_201

put in aldrich lol

largehrdsports

I know you watched those fights over the weekend. That big Russian dude is in a medically induced coma.

BxNY4LIFE

miniscus

Elnino_201

meniscus*

BxNY4LIFE

thanks for the spell check

LebronDaDon-datta

kill stat, kill Chandler, kill Dolan & kill Breen

Long.Live.A$AP

lmao you forgot bumwald

LebronDaDon-datta

he cant do further damage, kill Isiah tho.. Just incase

Elnino_201

kill everyone lmao

Back The Money Truck up….

Melo is hurt….No doubt about it!

Elnino_201

yo it dnt show whos typing no more lol

Long.Live.A$AP

cause we hurt jonah’s feelings

Elnino_201

jonah giveth jonah taketh away

LebronDaDon-datta

they take what we saying madd serious

Hollis2Hollywood

We’re about to force it to Amare mad times. Mad TO’s

BxNY4LIFE

here we go with the TOs again…lmaO_o

Long.Live.A$AP

losing to the bobcats saaaaaaaad

Boberto

Amare is horrible. He always gets a turnover everytime he gets the ball

Back The Money Truck up….

I knew this game wouldn’t be easy….

DJ Mbenga da GOAT

now all the haters will see how important tyson is for our team

LebronDaDon-datta

important, 60 mil “a year” hahah idk tho

21shumpstreet_DPOY

he’s worth that ish

LebronDaDon-datta

maybe if we didn’t have stats contract

Hollis2Hollywood

I hate when people say shit like this. You’re not taking into account the alternative

Long.Live.A$AP

not really is just we don’t got nobody else

Boberto

Thas why u cant plya Amare 10 mins a game, cuz any1 would wannt to score everytime they get the bal if they only playing limited mins

Elnino_201

” pass it to me”

Elnino_201

yo lawrence wa fight ? lol

Long.Live.A$AP

Only hope now is the smith family

BxNY4LIFE

giving up a 30 point quarter to start the game…lmaO_o

Elnino_201

amare is like im wide open son!

Boberto

Now the Tysoft lovers will see how important the 60 mill we wasted on him was when they see the bums we have on our roster

Back The Money Truck up….

MELOOOOOOOO………

Long.Live.A$AP

SCHOENE SYSTEM!!!!!!!

LebronDaDon-datta

Ny were lucky to have the Jets

LebronDaDon-datta

Blessed*

Back The Money Truck up….

Neega,we going to the AFC Championship!

LebronDaDon-datta

not with this qb

21shumpstreet_DPOY

GENOOO <3

Back The Money Truck up….

The Defense will carry us….

Knickels n Dimes

word, nobody would be watchin football if it wasn’t for them

LebronDaDon-datta

every team is looking grim but they got a future

BxNY4LIFE

I’m keeping my fingers crossed …. but I don’t think the news about TC is gonna be something we’re gonna like

LebronDaDon-datta

Melo at the 5 haha

Elnino_201

your fingers been crossed for like 10 min dey gona stay like tht lol

BxNY4LIFE

yup …that’s why I’m making some typos from time to time

Lawrence Smith

Yea. I’m pretty sure that knee is toast. Melo back to the 4 for the rest of the year.

Knickels n Dimes

wow, u got so much hope

LebronDaDon-datta

small ball.. with desperation..

Long.Live.A$AP

Q’s album coming out in January

Boberto

Atleast we have Cole Aldrich

Lawrence Smith

And now we will feel the effects of keeping Chris Smith.

BxNY4LIFE

Agreed

Elnino_201

might even be a knee sprain

Long.Live.A$AP

no ni99a he’s done lol

Elnino_201

…………………….

Elnino_201

asap a magic fan

Long.Live.A$AP

lmao nah

chris

amare and bargs at center

why id cole not activated

lol woodson

BxNY4LIFE

can still get Barron

Elnino_201

lol to start damnnn

BxNY4LIFE

who’s else is out there?

Elnino_201

tyrus thomas . honestly noone good at all lol

BxNY4LIFE

that’s why I said Barron

Knickels n Dimes

he wit China now

Knickels n Dimes

maybe he just a got a cut on his knee, and hes just bein a lil bitch about it

chris

pablo>felton

metta>bargs

LebronDaDon-datta

thats bad…

Long.Live.A$AP

Felton>Pablo

Back The Money Truck up….

Dolan gonna force a trade….This is what happens when u have an owner that knows nothing about basketball.

Boberto

It aint about Dolan, Bumwald screwed us

Back The Money Truck up….

That Ninja’s the Puppet Master….He has to sign off on that Shid!

DJ Mbenga da GOAT

this is one fxcked up lineup right now…pablo, udrih, hardaway, metta, amare…wtffff

Long.Live.A$AP

Knicks don’t know how to defend wit out fouling

Back The Money Truck up….

Lmao….Stat Shid got sent Israel!

Boberto

Amare averages 10 shots blocked a game lol

Elnino_201

n 8 to’s almost and 6 pts.. almost a triple double lol

Boberto

YOOOOOOOOOOO u saw how amare played D, ni99a just pointed at the dude

Lawrence Smith

You hear what homie said to mare after he punched his shot? smh.

Boberto

what hesay? gimme dat shit lol

Lawrence Smith

“Get that weak shite outta here” right in Amares face.

Long.Live.A$AP

Kidd come out of retirement

P.S SCHOENE SYSTEM

Hollis2Hollywood

NO!

Elnino_201

it feels like theyre 15 games into the season lol

largehrdsports

The Bobcat are too quick for Beno Udrih

Pushingkeys

this is where having 5 pgs on a team gets retarded!!! we have no size

BxNY4LIFE

keep attacking the rim

Elnino_201

tht ni99a needa go back to olajuwon .. or home llol

Hollis2Hollywood

Nikka need to go back to HS with his dumb ass.

Boberto

Amare should stick to the pick and roll. ni99as post game is trash

Pushingkeys

Woodson is dumb he hasnt used Stat in a pick in roll since he’s been here!!!

BxNY4LIFE

Stat is hurting us right now by trying to force it too much

Hollis2Hollywood

Scroll down to my prediction before he came in the game lol

LebronDaDon-datta

Dolan thinks this team can win

Boberto

Tysoft and Bumare. 160 million down the drain for garbage

Pushingkeys

yo stat is not gonna be any use to us playing 10 mins every other game!!! he’s not going to get in any Rhythm at all!!!!

largehrdsports

Just leave him in until his knees start ooze fluids

largehrdsports

Amazing cornrows in 2013

BxNY4LIFE

Sat doesn’t have the knees for the quick move that’s needed for the post move…plus he’s trying to take on the double team on the baseline .. so he’s actually taking on three…two players and the baseline

DJ Mbenga da GOAT

this is hard to watch

Pushingkeys

Stat is a beast in P n R, but woodson never uses him in it.

Hollis2Hollywood

Amare is hell bent on showing people what Dream taught him lol

Pushingkeys

Woodson has never used him in PnR, Never ever.

Boberto

omg this team is terrible

Long.Live.A$AP

S-C-H-O-E-N-E S-Y-S-T-E-M

SCHOENE SYSTEM!!!!!!

Knickels n Dimes

go watch the Magic game u fuckin faggot

Long.Live.A$AP

ni99a watch sad but true

Boberto

what happened to all the dumbass Glen Bumwald lovers

MD Knickabocka

Woodrow gotta go

BxNY4LIFE

Dumbo is looking really dumb on the sidelines

Back The Money Truck up….

Stat need to get a refund from Hakeem….SMH

Hollis2Hollywood

Hakeem needs to sue him for defamation. Ruining future business

Knickels n Dimes

hakeem stopped trainin people anyway

LebronDaDon-datta

Hakeem needa give stat back his money & act like he never taught em

Lawrence Smith

So how much ground did we lose with Stat in the game?

BxNY4LIFE

the ground was lost when TC went down

Boberto

shutup u dumbass the knicks were down 9-2 with Tysoft playing

Boberto

it isnt his fault tho

Pushingkeys

Woodson sucks!!! this is all coaching to me!!! he doesnt know what to do with the players he has!!! a good coach would be able to utilize melo and Bargs way better then this!!!

Long.Live.A$AP

Dolan def firing somebody

largehrdsports

Nah I think Dolan is in love with his black guys

Back The Money Truck up….

This is NOT Championship BB!

Long.Live.A$AP

obviously

Hollis2Hollywood

say word

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

cmon nyk

Boberto

Tom thibadau

Pushingkeys

I knew woodson was slow when he had Chandler running the PnR instead of Stat.

common bobcats , bum knicks are sleeping right now. push the lead to 20 points. lol

Hollis2Hollywood

do the nets have a website? lol

Boberto

Amare has no knees ni99a couldnt even jump lol

largehrdsports

Pablo to the rescue—–just watch

Long.Live.A$AP

ah no

Long.Live.A$AP

Chris Smith is more mentioned than amare

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

lol what?

Long.Live.A$AP

mentioned

NBAHatesNYK

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

MD Knickabocka

Lmao somebody just said “shut yo ass up”

NBAHatesNYK

lol

Long.Live.A$AP

ni99as think they low

largehrdsports

It was Pablo!

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

4th quarter. comeback time

Long.Live.A$AP

yo Amare no u did not

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

only the knicks

Elnino_201

yo did amare put it back lmaoooooo

largehrdsports

Amare with the tip in

Hollis2Hollywood

All these open shots are coming because of Amare. He’s not guarding anyone so we have to keep leaving Tolliver

BxNY4LIFE

can’t get over that 6-8 point hump…smh

Boberto

Ever since Ibaka violated Amares life, Amare jus hasnt been the same. jk Bumare hasnt been the same since that dumba$$ got injured doin kartwheels in warmups of the Boston playoff series 3 years ago

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

lmao

Hollis2Hollywood

I thought it was because he was dunking on the layup line

Boberto

he was doin sum dumb shit

Long.Live.A$AP

Damn Amare lmao

Pushingkeys

Amare scoring for the wrong team!! SMH this is what it has come to lol

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

tragic

Elnino_201

i cnt believe amare put it back SIT CHO ASS DOWN!!! foreverr

BxNY4LIFE

Woodson with the Stat sub is killing us

chris

amare is done. stop playing him

stop playing bargs

s

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

we need a bigman out there…

chris

i would rather sign diogu again. and play cole aldrich

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

word Aldrich is in a suit though

chris

has to happen asap

Hollis2Hollywood

play 4 on 5 lol

Long.Live.A$AP

this is a new low for amare

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

you sure? he aint injured

Long.Live.A$AP

he tipped in for the wrong team lmao

Pushingkeys

Amare playing a lot we may not see this ni66a again till after the all-star break

Knickels n Dimes

over 100 million fuckin dollars, and this ni99a still ain’t get no robot legs… he’s so fuckin stupid…

Elnino_201

amare missed the tip in by a finger tip

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

basket didn’t count though lol, amare caught a break

BxNY4LIFE

when you only get limited time and limited games … when you get the opportunity you try a little too hard to prove yourself…right now that mess is hurting the team… Woodson has to to get him to settle down

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

PABLOO

Hollis2Hollywood

Breen is Shitioni’s biggest fan lmao

Boberto

hes a fan of most white skinned people

largehrdsports

Pablo to the rescue—-sad really

chris

kmart-melo-metta is our best frontline

Long.Live.A$AP

omg amare

Boberto

BOO DAT NI99A

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

Stat this is sad

Long.Live.A$AP

this ni99a amare lmao

Boberto

Bumare should be boo’d every time

BxNY4LIFE

Woodson still has him in the game..smh

Hollis2Hollywood

If you’re hot, Woody takes you out. If you play like Amare is, extended minutes

danny55885588

Lets go bobcats, push the fuqin lead to 15 points……lol

Boberto

yoooooooooooooooooooooooooo when he went in the post, there was sum shit that happene di ono what lol

Pushingkeys

Refs felt sorry for him lol

largehrdsports

Yup you saw that

Long.Live.A$AP

mike breen defending amare lmao

Boberto

that was def an offensive foul lmao

Elnino_201

lmaoo tht was a offesive foul

Boberto

YOO the refs did feel bad for him lmao

Elnino_201

definetly

Hollis2Hollywood

pity lmao “give the little nikka a break”

Knickels n Dimes

word, they let that offensive foul go

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

mwp!!

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

knicks gotta pass more on the fast break

Boberto

The refs were like, Damn this ni99a Bumare is awful. Imma give this ni99a a break so he dont get shot after the game

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

who cares? lol

BxNY4LIFE

wasn’t a foul..he didn’t lower his shoulder

Lawrence Smith

GET THIS NIGGGA OUTTTA HERE!!!!

Boberto

damn, you kno shit is real when Lawrence uses the N word lmao

Lawrence Smith

These cats is killin me right now.

BxNY4LIFE

damn law….now I know you’re upset

largehrdsports

That ref should of called an offensive. Sh/t wanna been funny.

Pushingkeys

100 mil can buy you a pity no call lol

Elnino_201

rusty ass hoop

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

the way the refs have been calling they would’ve called it an o.f if it was one

Hollis2Hollywood

Raymond Felton is a celebrity in a city nobody knew existed lmao

Boberto

Amares mom was a prostitute tho lmao

Boberto

she was a celebrity too

Knickels n Dimes

chill, that aint even funny

Boberto

why ya moms one too?

Knickels n Dimes

no, cuz that shit ain’t funny, wat da fuck is wrong wit u?

Boberto

I could eat whatever i want without even lookin

-Raymond Felton

The fastest fat ni99a of all time

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

you make these jokes in a sec? damn lol

largehrdsports

Kenny Anderson the best handle ever

chris

you have to stop playing all these bad defensive players

they are net negatives

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

melo forcing

BxNY4LIFE

yup..iso Melo

Knickels n Dimes

why did Ray have to get fat?

Elnino_201

fck dis ni99a is backrimmin shit

BxNY4LIFE

Melo forcing up bricks

Boberto

Bumare, sit yo ass down knowing that u a bum

largehrdsports

Amare sits and the crowd cheers.

Knickels n Dimes

damn NY is fucked up

Long.Live.A$AP

first time he shoots wit a ni99a on him

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

pabloo

Hollis2Hollywood

Breen giving Prigioni credit for the ball movement. He didnt pass it one time lmao

Boberto

Cardinal sin of passing. letting metta pass

Knickels n Dimes

Pablo can shoot, he just be hesitatin all the time

Hollis2Hollywood

Yo seriously, what are we running offensively? It’s like a pick up game

Boberto

Bumnani, Where art thou?

Long.Live.A$AP

ni99a this isn’t 1500′s

Boberto

Lets not put Shumpert and Bumnani in

Elnino_201

ni99as juss cant get over the hump

BxNY4LIFE

what’s the theme…7/16…8/24…8/21…so far 7/21

largehrdsports

Lin sucks?

Long.Live.A$AP

we lose to the bobcats we don’t deserve to go to the playoffs

kobefan2420

Knicks still gonna win man

Boberto

Pablo Flopioni

Elnino_201

stylinn

Long.Live.A$AP

Melo need to sit down tbh

kobefan2420

Knicks the only team that give their superstar the ball with 5 secs left lol

Elnino_201

down by 4 can the cut it to two alrredy lol

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

i thought mwp flopped but nah, shouldve been a call

Hollis2Hollywood

Yo Kemba crossed the shit outta Prigioni lmao

BxNY4LIFE

I like the drive to the rim

Elnino_201

yessssssssssss vamoos

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

yes! come on, score now!

BxNY4LIFE

don’t settle Melo..go to the rim

Pushingkeys

Thats why melo dont pass!!

Long.Live.A$AP

but then thats why knicks lose cause he bricks it

Pushingkeys

dude just missed the whole entire Rim

BxNY4LIFE

that’s why he should pass…he did the right thing there

chris

PRIGS HAS TO DEFEND BETTER PGS. FELTON IS JUST ZZZZZZZZZZ

Knickels n Dimes

AIRBALL!!!

Elnino_201

wdf son. lol metta trippin

Hollis2Hollywood

Yo is embarassing. Not even that it’s the Bobcats. we just look terrible

Boberto

ni99a didnt get a good grip on the ball. It took him 10 mins to release

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

mwp making me have mood swings lmfao

Knickels n Dimes

word

Knickels n Dimes

Peace, da fuck u doin?

BxNY4LIFE

WTF…can we get some resin on the hands…

Hollis2Hollywood

Woody be shittin on Shump smh

Boberto

Anyway the Knicks can trade for Ibaka and Westbrook lol?

Elnino_201

ehhh?

Knickels n Dimes

Ibaka, sure. Westbrook, hell no

Pushingkeys

he shouldnt be dribbling during a fast break like that

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

like i said, knicks need to learn to pass on the fast break

Long.Live.A$AP

i just love when I’m wit you this shit is on ten we used to be friends girl and even back then

Boberto

Felton Shump Chandler Amare Timhardawyjr for Ibaka and Westbrook

Elnino_201

dont forget the first round pick

Pushingkeys

This ni66a murray is suited up!!!

Knickels n Dimes

oh well

largehrdsports

The offense only gets more perplexing when JR returns

BxNY4LIFE

to the rim

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

good pass by mwp

Hollis2Hollywood

Woody had Shump on the bench so long he got up lookin stiff (no homo)

Knickels n Dimes

that rim think he funny.

Boberto

WHY IS FELTON SHOOOTING

Elnino_201

felton clankin

Boberto

WHY THE F WE NOT PLAYIN WIT ANY SIZE. woodson is an idiot

kobefan2420

Knicks have the worst offense in the nba…im convinced

Knickels n Dimes

we too small

Long.Live.A$AP

did he just tipped it in

chris

felton is a chucker who sucks at running an offense

Boberto

We got no center in the game, yet we playin wit 2 PG’s… t

Elnino_201

sooooooooooooo melo tipped it in lo

chris

this y melo earn the $$$$$$$$$$$

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

only the fucking knicks

Long.Live.A$AP

WOW NOT ANTHONY

danny55885588

lets go bobcats !!!!!!!!!!

Long.Live.A$AP

yo it was all melo

Boberto

This is why u dont need a PG in this offense. All they do is give it to Melo in the post.U gotta have shooters all around him, not FELTON

Knickels n Dimes

wrong bucket melo

Back The Money Truck up….

WHY IS FELTON SHOOTING MF THREE’S???!!!!!

Boberto

there wide open shots, because u dont need to guard him

danny55885588

lets go Bobcats !!!!!

Pushingkeys

that happened cuz the ni66a aint want to jump

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

melo being too passive again

danny55885588

lets go bobcats !!!!!!

Long.Live.A$AP

somebody need to teach these ni99a where to score

largehrdsports

JR won’t save this team. He’ll make matters worst. SVG where you at?

BxNY4LIFE

missing a big down low is killing us right now..and we’re not getting the over the back call

danny55885588

lets go bobcats

danny55885588

lets go bobcats !!!!!!!

Long.Live.A$AP

We lost

Knickels n Dimes

Melo was like “fuck it, if I cant score in their bucket, Imma score in mines”

Lawrence Smith

Not only can’t we stop them, we scoring points for them. I couldn’t stop laughing just now.

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

melo used to be a cold killer

Back The Money Truck up….

Dude,he’s hurt….

MD Knickabocka

Woodrow gotta go

Long.Live.A$AP

Melo’s face says it all

Long.Live.A$AP

Melo dont deserve that $$$$$$

Boberto

NO PG LINEUP. da fuc we got PGs for if we run no plays anyway

Long.Live.A$AP

Woodson is like if i lose to the bobcats my job is fucked

largehrdsports

Melo ain’t got Kobe type stamina

kobefan2420

danny a clown lol

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

we need the cats to choke cause we wont get stops

Elnino_201

smh lol

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

shiiieet kmart proved me wrong

Long.Live.A$AP

thats it we lost

Hollis2Hollywood

McRoberts put his hand through the rim

largehrdsports

KMart throws that pass nicely

Boberto

THE FUCK IS FELTON DOING

Elnino_201

shdigsoivnoidvnaovnONOIa yo im mad

Long.Live.A$AP

why is felton shooting

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

meleoe,emeoe wtf

Boberto

FUCK U FELTON U FAT MOFUCKA

Long.Live.A$AP

its over

Boberto

This is Feltons fault. ni99a bricked everything

Elnino_201

yo word lol

Elnino_201

game over..

Hollis2Hollywood

I told you Kemba nice Bob

Boberto

he aint that nice. Ni99a was bound to hit a shot. he missed his last like 5

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

game over smfh

largehrdsports

ESPN was wrong?

Long.Live.A$AP

SCHOENO SYSTEM

Knickels n Dimes

Trade Melo, Tyson, felton, and shump for 10 first round picks. Then we tank for wiggins and parker. Then we can watch iso Chris Smith all year

Elnino_201

lmao

Hollis2Hollywood

So they can suffer too? lol

BxNY4LIFE

when your PG can only get you two assists…therein lies a major problem

largehrdsports

But Lin still sucks, though.

Lawrence Smith

The butt rape the knicks are going to get tomorrow on first take………

Knickels n Dimes

they wont even talk about emm….

Lawrence Smith

RIP Melo on First Take….

danny55885588

Wow what embarrassing loosing to a bobcats on a home field…………..lol

Lawrence Smith

Home court you dumb shite.

danny55885588

what does it make different between home field and home court ?

Lawrence Smith

Lets see…one is played on grass or turf the other is played on wood or concrete. Too stupid to talk to right now.

Hollis2Hollywood

There’s no grass in this garden…believe it or not

danny55885588

then why does it called Madison square garden ? lmao

Boberto

No PG lineup… i been saying this for 2 years

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

mike breen basically saying game over too

BxNY4LIFE

FTs again..lmao_O

Boberto

Ni999as need to make some changes. FIRE WOODSON, TRADE TYSOFT

Knickels n Dimes

Bumberto, maybe we should use ur 2k lineup wit Melo at PG, maybe it could work…

Boberto

if would work, easily

Boberto

Patrick Ewing smiling mad hard on the inside lol

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

truuu

largehrdsports

Where is Melo–Where is Melo–Where is Melo

kobefan2420

this dude blames chandler and he aint even play lol

Boberto

he did play. We went down 9-2 with him on the court

Ciroc_NesBoogie718

I aint get to watch the game smh. Glad I didn’t

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

got me tight again…fuck

Elnino_201

fuck im gone. fck tht lmao sleepy time son be easy fellas.

Knickels n Dimes

peace

danny55885588

don’t feel good right ?

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

peace

Boberto

PG: Shump
SG: JR
SF: Melo
PF: Bumnani
C: Tysoft

NBAHatesNYK

this is so bad

BxNY4LIFE

Woodson isn’t the right coach for the job

NBAHatesNYK

man this is so bad

NBAHatesNYK

the bobcats

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

always so close, I’m tired of these comebacks…

largehrdsports

Woodson sucks. He can’t motivate these bums let alone coach them

NBAHatesNYK

hope we do some wining ish

Boberto

Horrible playoffs, horrible offseason, and horrible start to the season

NBAHatesNYK

trends yo

1-3 Knicks

KNICKS-TAPED!!!!!!!!!!

chris

FIRE WOODSON

ISO ISO ISO, JR MUST START

AMARE MUST RETIRE

AND BARGS MUST GO AWAY AND START METTA

NBAHatesNYK

better get some mcgrady ish goin NOW

Hollis2Hollywood

Woody is just letting them wing it right now. No offense. No real lineup rotation. This guy is just getting paid to scowl at people now.

Boberto

Bumwald deserved a grade of F for his offseason. this team is terrible. No 2nd option. No help for Melo. No rebounding

NBAHatesNYK

JR better come with 30PPg

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

sad nets fans have no lives

BxNY4LIFE

Woodson probably tanking the games so JR could come back looking like a savior

NBAHatesNYK

lol

chris

melo 9/27

BxNY4LIFE

but JLin7 can’t play…lol

largehrdsports

He can play. He just sucks

NBAHatesNYK

i got no other team to cheer too

Long.Live.A$AP

im not watching the next game

NBAHatesNYK

good lost 10 years watching these

Boberto

Stop acting like Tysoft would have made this game any different. This team went down 9-2 with that bum on the court

NBAHatesNYK

mcgrady ish

BxNY4LIFE

49-32 rebounding advantage

NBAHatesNYK

chandler

Boberto

Shumpert
JR
Melo
Bumnani
Tysoft

that lineup would destroy ni99as

NBAHatesNYK

its funny how depth is killin us

knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

stat and melo- cost the game

Hollis2Hollywood

How it take you a year and a half and you still don’t have a rotation? lmao you still playing 12 guys a night lol

Ya’ll bums need to stop acting like this is such a surprise. I told u bums like 2 months ago how horrible this offseason was and that i wasnt even hyped for the season cuz last years team was way better

Long.Live.A$AP

Jason kidd made this team

largehrdsports

I bet these bums show for the Spurs though. They’ll probably lose but it will be competitive.

chris

SO WE HAVE TWO OF THE BIGGEST BUMS AT PF ON OUR TEAM

TRADE BARGS FOR KRIS HUMPHRIES

Long.Live.A$AP

funny how the old players last year were the reason why we were successful

Back The Money Truck up….

J.E.T.S Jets,Jets,Jets!!!!!!

Fvck these Ninjas mane….SMH

Long.Live.A$AP

ni99a jets aint winning notin not a giant fan

Back The Money Truck up….

Fall back Neega….We RUN NY!

chris

WE LOSE OUR NEXT GAME, WE ARE DONE

Lawrence Smith

We lose our next game and Dolan fires Woodson.

chris

its you dude from knicksnow, wassup wit ya boy bargs, did you see him

theflyeststar

if chandler misses the whole game knicks win

Long.Live.A$AP

no

theflyeststar

definitely, at the end of last season the 14 game win streak came when tyson was out

Pushingkeys

you know you have no real PG, when everybody else brings the ball up just as much as him!!! Smh

Boberto

we dont need a PG man im telling u

chris

THE KNCIKS ARE LUCKY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE INDY IS THE ONLY EAST TEAM DOMINATING RIGHT NOW

largehrdsports

1-3 is lucky?

chris

everybody else is like 2-2

Boberto

Shump
JR
Melo
Bumnani
K-mart/Tysoft

Back The Money Truck up….

Somebody’s getting traded….TRUST!!!!

Knickels n Dimes

watch nothin gonna happen… TRUST!!!

Back The Money Truck up….

Goto sleep….Yo Bitchazz got school in the morning.

largehrdsports

JR will make sh/t worst. SVG

theflyeststar

woody is in shumps head, that had a lot to do with him missing that free throw, he sat most of the 4th

Long.Live.A$AP

boberto is right in some sort of way why the knicks have a point guard if they don’t use him better off putting more offense

BxNY4LIFE

I thought that MWP should’ve been in the starting lineup … have Bargs come off the bench til JR return

theflyeststar

no doubt, i think ron might be a better starter than jr

largehrdsports

MWP is shooting too much tho

theflyeststar

he was 7 for 13

largehrdsports

Ok then his missing too much–10-13 lol

theflyeststar

lol

BxNY4LIFE

better than 10/28

theflyeststar

exactly

chris

larence whats good dude, bargs is killin it

Lawrence Smith

Dude can’t rebound so he got benched.

BxNY4LIFE

that’s on the dumb A$$ coach…not Bargs

chris

thats ya boy tho, u still gon defend him

Lawrence Smith

Nobody is my boy. I’m a knicks fan and I call it like it is. The Wolves game problems had nothing to do with him. Tonights bobcats game he did a terrible job rebounding and when he switched to smaller defenders he didn’t move well. Those are things I can actually see if I go back to the game. I’d be able to pick out plays and show him in bad position for a rebound or getting worked on defense. I don’t do the general statement stuff without proof.

And on his rebounding problems, I said in the preseason, we learned that Barg shouldn’t be on the floor without a true center. Chandler going down was huge because Barg can’t play the 5. Some of the buckets they got when Chandler went down was because Woodson had Barg playing the 5. They lived in the paint until he made substitutions.

BxNY4LIFE

we’re losing these game because of bad starts…you cannot start a player like Bargs that doesn’t play D….we’ll continue to give up huge numbers to start the games

BxNY4LIFE

Bargs is beginning to come around .. he’s just put into a difficult situation by our dumb A$$ coach

Knickels n Dimes

I say we get Barkley as our head coach, trade all our talent for javale mcgee, and run iso wit chris smith. No matter if we win or lose, we always gonna have a good laugh every game

Long.Live.A$AP

maybe this a sign melo leaves expiring contracts next year a lot of cap space in 2015

theflyeststar

why is prigs playing over shump for most of the 4th

Back The Money Truck up….

Yall Ninjas missing Novak now….Those Housing projects Felton was building for the poor would have been straight water.SMH

Boberto

nah b, Novak wouldnt even have been on the court in crunch time. And even if he was, they would guard up on him and leave Felton open all day

Boberto

Opposing teams can double Melo all day long with their PG cuz nobody has to guard Felton from the outside

Long.Live.A$AP

Knickels Jameer

Knickels n Dimes

yes, he will save us

Long.Live.A$AP

im startin to lean on him now

Knickels n Dimes

hook us up, u live right by Orlando’s arena dont u?

Long.Live.A$AP

lmao

BxNY4LIFE

Look I’m not going to beat up on Melo too much this game…other than his % I thought he play better…this loss is on the dumb A$$ coach

1. with a bad starting line up
2. with bad sub patterns

largehrdsports

Tie a pork chop to the rim and watch Ray break down defenses.

Long.Live.A$AP

nah we all know he a fried chicken person

Knickels n Dimes

Too fuckin funny

Pushingkeys

Melo has to take too many difficult shots!!!! teams are not respecting our shooters. the thing is if he doesnt take those shots we would never score.

theflyeststar

he needs to take it to the hole more, he settles for jumpers too much

theflyeststar

this teams chances are much better with kenyon starting at the 5, the come back tonight came when tyson left, kenyon and ron are much tougher than bargs and tyson

largehrdsports

Felton
Smith
Anthony
Martin
Chandler

theflyeststar

kenyon
artest
melo
shump
felton

BxNY4LIFE

2 assists by our starting PG means he’s not distributing the ball to the guys in their sweet spot…but with 15 shots he sure was looking out for himself tho..especially at the 3pt line with him taking 7 of those

Long.Live.A$AP

rockets rumors jameer nelson

danny55885588

Refresh:
Time to head to burger king…….lol

Boberto

All of Raymond Feltons shots were wide open. Defenses leave him WIDE open. the right move is to take the shot but the ni99a cant hit anything

Long.Live.A$AP

Magics want a first rounder for jameer they bugging out

BOBERTO THE FAG

OH WE DON’T NEED TYSOFT CHANDLER

Boberto

we dont, we went down 9-2 with that bum still on the court

Boberto

HIRE LIONEL HOLLLINS!

largehrdsports

Tysoft’s been our most consistent starter in the last 3 games though.

theflyeststar

with tyson out i bet this team goes on a winning streak, mark my words

Lawrence Smith

You gotta be a true idiot to pay attention to +/- rating.

BxNY4LIFE

fools gold

Pushingkeys

we switch way too much. there was a play where i saw 3 guys switch at the same time!! shit is crazy.

BxNY4LIFE

our PG play is not very good at all…to slow to start the play…can’t find the guys in their sweet spot…can’t break down defenses…and shots aren’t timely

largehrdsports

Amare’s useless. Banned him from MSG

Back The Money Truck up….

Lol

BxNY4LIFE

14 turnovers….NOT GOOD

Pushingkeys

5 of those belonged to amare, so its really not bad

Pushingkeys

if the knicks want to go small it should be

Felton
JR
Shump
Melo
Chandler

Shump and JR are good rebounding guards. Prigs was getting jumped over all night.

largehrdsports

Bernie Bickerstaff still has it. Lure that dude from LAL

KNICKS FANS THOUGHTS

FELTON SUCK A FAT DICK YOU FAT FUCKING ASS HOLE.

KNICKS FANS THOUGHTS

TYSON THE ANOREXIC KNEE FUCK

danny55885588

LETS GO KNICKS !!!! TITLE CONTENDERS MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Boberto

JR gonna save this team, just watch

what?

shut the fuck up terrorist.

Back The Money Truck up….

We don’t have a TRUE #2 scorer….Rite now it’s Melo and the Mexicans @ Home Depot parking lot!

Boberto

JR Shump and Melo, all we need son

theflyeststar

ron ron

largehrdsports

20-56 shooting

Pushingkeys

Bobby brown should have been the PG we picked over Beno.

Back The Money Truck up….

Tyson left MSG on crutches….SMH

marquice

shaking my head

Back The Money Truck up….

Shump is overrated BIG TIME!Not a BUM like Ray but definitely hyped up….

Meloforever1155

your mom is overated on my d1ck.

Back The Money Truck up….

***********CRICKETS***********

Meloforever1155

D!ck Rider !!!!!!!!

Pushingkeys

id trade Beno for tinsley right now!!!!!

Boberto

Shumpert is a good player. Hes just mad limited

Back The Money Truck up….

Just Athletic….Shooting is NOT that great.

Knickels n Dimes

hes a decent shooter

Back The Money Truck up….

FOH

marquice

shumps post game interview….looks like he’s was just told he’s been traded or some shit..or he’s just mad he’s limited likke boberto said

BxNY4LIFE

need a guy like PJ to come in and clean sheet up…then take over BBall operations

largehrdsports

Carlisemo? Hell no. Now I know you’re white.

theflyeststar

jackson

largehrdsports

That will never happen.

theflyeststar

not a bad idea though

largehrdsports

There are a few good names we could really get though–SVG, Sloan, Johnson

theflyeststar

true, i love sloans coaching style

largehrdsports

RAY RAY’s Chicken and Rib Shack. “If you don’t lick you plate clean, I’ll do it for you!” -Raymond Felton

BxNY4LIFE

talk about all the players you want to…the root of the problem is management…starting from the HC up

shumpert would be nice if he had a good first step, but his first step is terrible!!! he cant get by anybody

Knickels n Dimes

wat u mean he cant by anybody, u callin him slow?

Pushingkeys

his first step is slow. he’s fast when he gains momentum, but his first 3 steps off the dribble is very slow

Knickels n Dimes

it aint that bad, he just need to get the ball more

marquice

if we lose to the bobcats again friday..woodsons gone

Boberto

It took Mike Dantoni 4 horrible years to leave the Knicks. AND HE AINT EVEN GET FIRED, he resigned. This franchise is terrible at signing and firing coaches

largehrdsports

Look at the good coaches they dumped before the MDA hiring though. There was no one left to hire so they kept MDA

Boberto

they coulda hired Mark jackson, but instead they chose the worst coach in the NBA

largehrdsports

Mark Jackson was an analyst with zero coaching experience GS hiring him was a risk it worked out so far but

Boberto

This ni99a Monte Ellis is shooting like 70% to start off the season

Boberto

Knicks should have made a fun for nate and Monte

BxNY4LIFE

According to several sources, Dolan was ready to erupt after the Knicks
surrendered 40 first-quarter points and as the deficit ballooned to 23
Dolan went hunting for Steve Mills, the team’s new president and general
manager.
That Mills isn’t responsible for either the roster or the coaching
staff didn’t matter. With Dolan the facts rarely matter. The boss needed
to vent and found Mills in a suite.

Jeff van Gundy would know how to fix this. woodson has too many of his homies on the coaching staff. like nobody would ever consider any of our assistant coaches for head coaching jobs!!

BxNY4LIFE

that’s how he is tho..you can see it in his sub pattern..he plays his homies

Pushingkeys

he has no sub pattern lol

BxNY4LIFE

yeah he does….his pets gets first choice…guys he doesn’t like will never see the light of day

Knickels n Dimes

we should get stephen a smith as our head coach, he played some college basketball back in his days….

largehrdsports

He’s dumber than Woodson

Knickels n Dimes

yea but hes funny as hell, and he wouldnt be afraid to call someone out, if they playin like shit

BxNY4LIFE

when your PG is chucking up the second most shots on the team you have a big problem

Knickels n Dimes

he was makin a couple of em tho

BxNY4LIFE

excellent job…keep it up

danny55885588

Marsh melo’s interview after the game, he said: ” knicks lost SO ..what….I had 32 BEAT….. THAT ”

Pushingkeys

We tanking for Wiggins!!! Lol

Pushingkeys

Wait we dont have a 1st rounder grunwald donated it to charity lol

Pushingkeys

Real talk though is that pick at least lottery protected? Smh

Knicks_11ThePoet

GM! didnt get to watch the game live.

watched the Knicks in 60 thing, i tell ya

this team is mad confusing.

Long.Live.A$AP

SCHOENO SYSTEM!!!!!!!!

Long.Live.A$AP

SCHOENO SYSTEM!!!!!!!

Long.Live.A$AP

Tell ma A$AP ni99as that the knicks suck

Knicks_11ThePoet

i still have hope for this team,losing chandler

is weird af. idk who will replace him.

Long.Live.A$AP

Cole Aldrich lmao

Long.Live.A$AP

37-45 woooooo

Knicks_11ThePoet

thats messed up. taht wont

happen

Long.Live.A$AP

U never know

Knicks_11ThePoet

woody needs to stop bein so DAMN STUBBORN

seriously. staart givin mins to aldrich , murry and udrih.

dont forget that Udrih took less to be here. smh

Long.Live.A$AP

Not Aldrich but Murray and for the entertainment Chris smith

Knicks_11ThePoet

fxck chris smith mayne. i want aldrich to play. boy can a

Knicks_11ThePoet

Orlando owns the worst of either Denver’s or New York’s unprotected 1st rounder this year.

smh

Long.Live.A$AP

SCHOENO SYSTEM!!!!!!

Long.Live.A$AP

Knicks think it’s a knee sprain but haven’t done an MRI yet

BxNY4LIFE

Instead of of sidelining the Knicks City Dancers…the idiot Dolan should seriously consider sidelining Mike Woodson and giving a championship coach the opportunity to win the championship of which he speaks…but this takes him giving up basketball control to the zen master … PJ is needed pronto … ONCE A KNICK!!!

Knicks_11ThePoet

where everyone

at?

BxNY4LIFE

As I stated during FA…one injury away from disaster…now we might pay for giving that roster spot to CSmith when we were seriously in need of a 7 footer…. that decision was asinine beyond belief .. that decision shows us how much we’re in need of someone with a high basketball IQ and championship DNA guiding this ship …. a basketball man at the helm…Woodson has to go … give PJ what he wants and let’s move forward…it’s early days yet and he’ll still have time to right this listing ship

largehrdsports

Phil Jackson only takes jobs where the teams have a minimum of 2 future first vote hall of fame guys. The Knicks ain’t got that.

BxNY4LIFE

was that something he told you in confidence or otherwise?

largehrdsports

Just an observation myself and others have made. But you shoud check his comments about Melo. He pretty much says this team ain’t worth his time.

Knicks_11ThePoet

yea, hes kind a over-rated. everyteam he was on

had two HOF even Gasol-Kobe

BxNY4LIFE

I’m happy to hear about your observation … but like everything else sometimes what you perceive or observe and the reality are two different things … make the offer .. let him decline it

largehrdsports

Make him an offer and he’ll decline it because he’s smart.

BxNY4LIFE

I guess you know him and his thoughts personally…lol

largehrdsports

I know If I was a legendary coach guarding my legacy would be very important to me. Coaching a shambolic squad like the Knicks are now would be a blemish.

Knicks_11ThePoet

whether be a trade or an coachin move.

something needs to be done, i dont see my team goin anywhere with this personnel

GottaKeepItReal

Tyson better have only a sprain or bruise…but this team sucks balls

Knicks_11ThePoet

i still have hope man. if this dude has some kind of fracture.

he might be the softest player i have ever seen.

GottaKeepItReal

na cant say that, it was jus real bad luck how kembas knee went into tysons knee while he was shifted sideways

BxNY4LIFE

According to the reports…this is the same knee that TC had a MCL issue with last year….

largehrdsports

Jackson would do anything for this team. Check his record with the Jordan-less Bulls and Shaq-less Lakers. He wasn’t looking like a genius then. Anyway, I’d give Larry Brown another shot. He knew how to work a one-dimensional squad like the Knicks.

BxNY4LIFE

what about Red Auerbach or better yet let’s get Holtzman…lmao

largehrdsports

At least they knew how to build a team. Jackson was gifted 4 of the best in the history of the game.

BxNY4LIFE

you’re FAF….a bit dim..but FAF…lmaO_o

Knicks_11ThePoet

lionel hollins, larry brown, avery johnson

still available

GottaKeepItReal

aint no coach fixing Melos stroke out of nowhere…its the roster thats so bum. Any coach that comes here will ultimately get sht on by the media

BxNY4LIFE

largehrdsports

BxNY4LIFE

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2 minutes ago

I know If I was a legendary
coach guarding my legacy would be very important to me. Coaching a
shambolic squad like the Knicks are now would be a blemish.

largehrdsports

C’mon you ghoul, you’re on here slurping on Lin and bashing Melo on the daily.

Knicks_11ThePoet

this dude thinks he can win arguments

when he thinks Lin can lead a team.

GottaKeepItReal

I dont think ive seen omar ever win an argument lol, he jus stops responding or does his “lmao”

BxNY4LIFE

people say the darndest thing…it all comes out sometime or the other…the truth is a very hard thing to suppress….lmaO_o

largehrdsports

A blemish for Jackson but not for plenty of other coaches seeking glory. Read closer, if you can. Nuance is everything.

BxNY4LIFE

make the offer…but witty individuals like yourself knows nothing about making an offer…lmaO_o

Knicks_11ThePoet

i didnt see melo take 28 shots last

night. maybe its because i watched knicks in 60

GottaKeepItReal

I watched the whole game, and it didnt feel like he had 32 at all

Knicks_11ThePoet

i think its all the layups he missed but he got the calls

for it.

GottaKeepItReal

he couldnt hit shit outside 15ft consistently

largehrdsports

DvR it

Knicks_11ThePoet

im broke man

largehrdsports

You’re Asian: build one. jk

Knicks_11ThePoet

that’d be sick

Knicks_11ThePoet

i saw a couple of times where melo just

gave good looks to TH Jr, Metta and felton but they just

not hitting shots. JR smith pls come back lol

GottaKeepItReal

get to watch JRs comeback game live, may have to bring advil to the game, cuz we may end up bummn more against SAS

Knicks_11ThePoet

lol smh

i hope not man

BxNY4LIFE

7/16…8/24….8/21….10/28…I didn’t see 37.7% FG shooting before last night … I wonder what it is now?

GottaKeepItReal

what was it before?

BxNY4LIFE

I wonder who’s gonna be up in Dolans office this morning…maybe the city dancers … lmaO_o