Might I just point out that homophobia in Scouting is an american thing? The (original) Scout Association in the UK is completely gay-friendly. Here's what they say: The Scout Association has an equal opportunities policy, and welcomes members regardless of their sexual orientation or gender.

If you follow the link you'll find fact sheets encouraging gay scouts and gay scout leaders. Note to any BSA defenders: the skies haven't fallen in and Scouting remains very popular in the UK.

That's awfully short sighted of them. Nothing says grind a political axe like burying it in the backs of the nation's youth.

Intel and UPS should be proudly supporting the Boy Scouts instead of making short sighted, spineless decisions like giving into the bullying of the professional homosexuals, whose only accomplishment is trying to destroy the achievements of others.

dinwv:So this is what things have come to. An organization stands up for it's longstanding beliefs and is immediately shouted down and ostracized by the PC crowd. Fark UPS- they suck anyway.

If, by immediately, you mean over the coarse of 100+ years, and if, by ostracized, you mean companies and people decide to stop giving them free money until stop acting like bigoted assholes, then I completely agree with everything you just said.

It's really sad to see BSA involved in such deplorable things. I was a boyscout. Scouting taught me a lot. Not just about wilderness survival, but also about safety and preparedness. I built a lot of character in the scouts and learned a lot of things that still help me today. It's sad to see them bring so much scorn upon themselves.

Hunter_Worthington:That's awfully short sighted of them. Nothing says grind a political axe like burying it in the backs of the nation's youth.

Intel and UPS should be proudly supporting the Boy Scouts instead of making short sighted, spineless decisions like giving into the bullying of the professional homosexuals, whose only accomplishment is trying to destroy the achievements of others.

H31N0US:Hunter_Worthington: That's awfully short sighted of them. Nothing says grind a political axe like burying it in the backs of the nation's youth.

Intel and UPS should be proudly supporting the Boy Scouts instead of making short sighted, spineless decisions like giving into the bullying of the professional homosexuals, whose only accomplishment is trying to destroy the achievements of others.

one small post for man:H31N0US: Hunter_Worthington: That's awfully short sighted of them. Nothing says grind a political axe like burying it in the backs of the nation's youth.

Intel and UPS should be proudly supporting the Boy Scouts instead of making short sighted, spineless decisions like giving into the bullying of the professional homosexuals, whose only accomplishment is trying to destroy the achievements of others.

orbister:kmmontandon: The Scouts' anti-gay stance is fairly ironic considering the rumors surrounding Baden-Powell's "friendship" with a close male friend.

Might I just point out that homophobia in Scouting is an american thing? The (original) Scout Association in the UK is completely gay-friendly. Here's what they say: The Scout Association has an equal opportunities policy, and welcomes members regardless of their sexual orientation or gender.

If you follow the link you'll find fact sheets encouraging gay scouts and gay scout leaders. Note to any BSA defenders: the skies haven't fallen in and Scouting remains very popular in the UK.

It's no coincidence that our favorite gay-bashing religious group has basically infiltrated and taken over most of the upper level scouting positions on the west coast as they are willing to throw lots of money behind it.

stolen from elsewhere:

"Mormons participate in Boy Scouts at a very high rate. While Mormons only make up 2% of the total US population, they account for nearly 20% of all Scouts. The Mormons even have their own specialized division of scouting, LDS Scouting and, until recently, a student could major in Scouting leadership at Mormon-based university, Brigham Young.

It seems the Mormons aren't afraid of throwing their weight around on issues they are concerned with and are on record as saying if the Boy Scouts of America is forced to accept gays as scoutmasters, the LDS Church will withdraw from the organization and take more than 400,000 Scouts with it."

Heck, they even have "eagle scout factories" where they pretty much ensure the kids get their eagle scouts handing them pre-packaged projects (which often tend to be building something the church wants).

Its supposed to be an organization for young boys... I don't understand societies fascination with wanting to read see and hear about homosexual relationships going on in the Boy Scouts. Its like some kind of pedophiles fantasy that has spread through the politically correct zombie landscape known as the U.S.AIn short, our country has gone to hell in a hand basket and there is no saving it at this stage of retardation.

The_Homeless_Guy:orbister: kmmontandon: The Scouts' anti-gay stance is fairly ironic considering the rumors surrounding Baden-Powell's "friendship" with a close male friend.

Might I just point out that homophobia in Scouting is an american thing? The (original) Scout Association in the UK is completely gay-friendly. Here's what they say: The Scout Association has an equal opportunities policy, and welcomes members regardless of their sexual orientation or gender.

If you follow the link you'll find fact sheets encouraging gay scouts and gay scout leaders. Note to any BSA defenders: the skies haven't fallen in and Scouting remains very popular in the UK.

It's no coincidence that our favorite gay-bashing religious group has basically infiltrated and taken over most of the upper level scouting positions on the west coast as they are willing to throw lots of money behind it.

stolen from elsewhere:

"Mormons participate in Boy Scouts at a very high rate. While Mormons only make up 2% of the total US population, they account for nearly 20% of all Scouts. The Mormons even have their own specialized division of scouting, LDS Scouting and, until recently, a student could major in Scouting leadership at Mormon-based university, Brigham Young.

It seems the Mormons aren't afraid of throwing their weight around on issues they are concerned with and are on record as saying if the Boy Scouts of America is forced to accept gays as scoutmasters, the LDS Church will withdraw from the organization and take more than 400,000 Scouts with it."

Heck, they even have "eagle scout factories" where they pretty much ensure the kids get their eagle scouts handing them pre-packaged projects (which often tend to be building something the church wants).

Yep. I have dealt with a number of LDS units and they have made Scouting the de facto youth group for the religion.

MagicMissile:Its supposed to be an organization for young boys... I don't understand societies fascination with wanting to read see and hear about homosexual relationships going on in the Boy Scouts. Its like some kind of pedophiles fantasy that has spread through the politically correct zombie landscape known as the U.S.AIn short, our country has gone to hell in a hand basket and there is no saving it at this stage of retardation.

.Go back and read the Elmo thread, at least two dozen Farkers were there arguing why it was ok for them to rape children. All of them need to be on a "stay far far away from" list. Link One of them actually said "Sexual interest in pubescent children is not pedophilia". Fark needs to bring in some adult mods, perhaps some associated with that ABC show.

MagicMissile:Its supposed to be an organization for young boys... I don't understand societies fascination with wanting to read see and hear about homosexual relationships going on in the Boy Scouts. Its like some kind of pedophiles fantasy that has spread through the politically correct zombie landscape known as the U.S.AIn short, our country has gone to hell in a hand basket and there is no saving it at this stage of retardation.

Man, the trolls in this thread just aren't working very hard. Even the grammatical errors are grade school stuff.

Matthew Keene:I participated in my first circle jerk in scouts. Not kidding.

Okay so I'll ask what everyone else is thinking but afraid to ask... did the leader participate?

I have mixed feeling about this,,, I am a very strong advocate of Gay rights (I have many friends and several relatives who are gay and see all the bullshiat that they have to put up with). But having a son who is in Scouts I always wondered how I would handle this. He is almost 12 and he knows what someone being gay means, but I would have really hated to have to explain it to him when he was too much younger because his leader had brought his boyfriend to a meeting or on a camping trip (like a lot of leaders whose wives are involved at the cub scout level.)

That being said, I was very hesitant to even allow him to be a Scout in the first place, because of their discrimination policies and the horror stories, but his father (my EX) insisted and had a very long talk with him about what to do IF...and I did my part explaining to him about some "Christians" who are not very Christ-like in their thoughts or actions. I now know I made the right decision because I have watched my son growing into a very responsible, courageous and caring young man through his involvement.

As far as companies withdrawing their funding... Bravo to them for standing up for their beliefs (and what the majority of the country believes).

/prepared for the hypocrite comments// and those about my precious "snowflake"