By choosing to post the reply below you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Message:

Trackback:

Send Trackbacks to (Separate multiple URLs with spaces) :

Post Icons

You may choose an icon for your message from the following list:

No icon

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register. Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.

User Name:

Password

Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:

Confirm Password:

Email Address

Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:

Log-in

User Name

Remember Me?

Password

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.

Click here to view the posting rules you are bound to when clicking the'Submit Reply' button below

Additional Options

Miscellaneous Options

Automatically parse links in text

Automatically embed media (requires automatic parsing of links in text to be on).

Automatically retrieve titles from external links

Click here to view the posting rules you are bound to when clicking the'Submit Reply' button below

Topic Review (Newest First)

05-07-2013 11:31 PM

ltgoshen

Re: 30 vs 33

[QUOTE=jimgo;1007990]I'm not sure what kind of info you're looking for. Try these for the standard (non-shoal keel):

I own HIN #675 and it has the factory 2gm so dont beleive all you read.
675.

Code:

The QM was superseded by the Yanmar 2GM beginning with no. 676 (NOT TRUE) QUOTE

]

04-18-2013 01:30 AM

NJBoatDad

Re: 30 vs 33

The 30': C&C 30-1 (1-506) looks like a good time!

03-31-2013 11:09 PM

PaulinVictoria

Re: 30 vs 33

I guess the popular boats are popular for a reason. Anyway, it's all just a discussion at this point, I will likely keep Tangerine for at least another year now.

03-31-2013 01:14 PM

Alex W

Re: 30 vs 33

This is where sailboatdata could really use a "find boats like this one" feature (that sorted based on B/D, SA/D, etc). I'm certain that there are other common enough PNW boats with a design similar to what you are looking for, but finding them one at a time isn't as easy as it should be.

03-31-2013 01:04 AM

PaulinVictoria

Re: 30 vs 33

I've seen a few adverts for the Yankee, looks a nice boat, not as pretty as the C&C, would have to see one in person to get a better idea of the layout below as well. Not very common round here, closest one is Seattle which is a good trek for me.

03-31-2013 12:33 AM

Alex W

Re: 30 vs 33

I mentioned it on another thread too, but check out a Yankee 30. It's a very stiff 30 footer, they fit a dodger, and around here (at least on the south side of the border) they are about as common as a C&C 30. They are faster too.

Neither worked for me in the end since they are missing a quarterberth. Another downside is that most either have an Atomic 4 (also common in C&C 30s) or an obscure diesel.

Islander 30 should be about as stiff as the C&C and is also really common and does have the quarterberth.

I found that my wife hates unexpected boat movement (so it's motion in heavy water) more than a lot of heel. The Pearson heels quickly before stiffening up and that usually works pretty well for us. The extra weight still makes my Pearson get blown around a lot more (especially with following seas) than my friends Yankee 30.

The Yankee 30 is a really heavy boat, but it has a lot of sail area to match it. That's why it can be fast and very stiff. Most of the weight is in the keel, it's B/D is a lot higher than the C&C 30, which is already higher than many similar boats.

The Tartan 30 is also a lot like the Yankee 30 (both are S&S designs), though with a bit more beam and B/D that is like the C&C 30.

03-30-2013 02:39 PM

sailingfool

Re: 30 vs 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulinVictoria

... I've looked at a couple of C&C30s with dodgers, one was a late model Mk1 where the boom was also raised a foot so the dodger was actually pretty decent.

The boom was raised a foot between the 1976-1977 years...someone out there knows the hull number for this change...

03-30-2013 12:04 PM

PaulinVictoria

Re: 30 vs 33

Yep, main problem is the only CS30 listed anywhere around here is at $40k, and that is a long way out of my budget (at the moment all boats are out of my budget on account of still having Tangerine ). I've looked at a couple of C&C30s with dodgers, one was a late model Mk1 where the boom was also raised a foot so the dodger was actually pretty decent.

03-30-2013 09:18 AM

msmith10

Re: 30 vs 33

Paul,
I would never try to talk anyone out of a C&C-- they're really great boats. However, I would make one qualifying statement based on my own experience. The 70's vintages (and the later ones for the most part) don't adapt well to dodgers and biminis. They weren't meant to. You won't see many C&Cs of any vintage carrying canvas.
On the 30 Mk 1 the boom is so low over the companionway that fitting a dodger is problematic- it has to be made so low that it's not very usable. Likewise, biminis have to be made very short to clear the boom. The Mark 2 is better because they raised the boom about a foot.
For all its good qualities, my wife really doesn't like the boat because of the lack of shade and wind protection. If that's an important feature for you or your wife, you may be better off looking at other boats. For something of comparable quality and feel that tends more toward the cruising side of cruiser/racer, look at the CS.

03-29-2013 12:14 PM

sailingfool

Re: 30 vs 33

The 30 Mark I well earns its reputation as the stiffest C&C design. My personal experience racing the 30 Mark I, was that in 18 knots of beeze or more, the 30 Mark I performed well above its rating, and we would frequently beat many of the bigger boats that started 10 minutes ahead of us across the finish line. The magic of the design is that it also sailed to its rating from 6 and up...

That said, the 33 Mark I does have sexier look and is a sweet boat in any regards.

This thread has more than 10 replies.
Click here to review the whole thread.