Hold up vversatile , When it came to gay rights he was in favor from the beginning in 1993 when elected to a degree , What stood against him at the time “1993” was 2 parties republican and Democrats who did not support gay rights “AT ALL !! “, then he would of been a black sheep and nothing would of got done in America. He did a lot of good during his time as president, You cant judge a man for folding on gay rights when America was not ready for it. And with the power he had he didn’t push gay rights backwards either. I always say any type of civil rights is about law and to win rights you need to play your cards right. And as of right now Americas LGBT has the upper hand.

Being a grove of bamboo is better than being a giant oak if you want to survive a hurricane….It’s obvious that Clinton wasn’t by nature anti-gay, and wityh both Clinton and Obama we’ve seen how the Republicans can paralyse a president for the least thing when they set their vicious minds to the task….His statement is well written and likely to be all the more influential because he signed the original DOMA….

He did 700 hours of Christian radio selling his vile DOMA deal to Christian fundamentalists after caving in on gays in the military. A failure. A ‘summer soldier and sunshine patriot’ who shrank from service to his country when the going got tough. A spineless slippery weasel lacking of leadership qualities and moral fibre who gave in to those who shouted the loudest.

Amazing how politicians change their mind about gay rights AFTER they have left positions in which they could actually do something useful.
I have lost count of the number who have done this in Australia. Gillard will undoubtedly join their ranks after she loses the next Federal Election.

The only thing which has changed is that people have now realised they were wrong all along. The public were misled by dark religious forces, through very considerable anti-gay campaigning in to believing we .. well, choose your term .. that our relationships were based only on sex, not love, that everyone hopped in and out of different beds daily, that it was a “lifestyle choice”, etc. People have woken up to truth. The biggest change is probably anti-discrimination measures, which allowed us to be open, to allow people to see us, to see we’re good too, that our relationships are based on love and just as long-term as anyone else, that we’re not the threat they said we were.

But it should have never been in doubt, people were misled, we were targeted and vilified and denomised and oppressed by those with money, power and aberrant religious beliefs, like the LDS.

Adrian’s recollections are quite different than mine. Clinton only took a stand on gays in the military because he was questioned about it on MTV. He knew that audience wanted to hear that he supported equality, so he said he would open the military to gay people. Once in office, he allowed the homophobes (starting with Colin Powell who should have been relieved of duty for violating the policies of his CIC) to dictate the terms. His actions resulted in an increase in harassment of queers inside and outside the military.

After being burnt once he didn’t even fight on DOMA. An Amendment would have taken decades and probably failed anyway. So, that is a bogus excuse. He did it for his own personal political gain and he doesn’t even have the balls to admit it now.

It pains me that, though an adult, I can’t recall being aware of DOMA when it was signed in by Clinton. I am more politically savvy these days but I also put my ignorance down to the lower expectations we had back then. Most of us, I’m sure, found equal marriage unimaginable. Marriage was not politicised among the vast majority of us. It is a positive sign that we, as well as Clinton, have changed our minds.

He is a Conman;
He is a Adulterer and a Cheater;
He is a person who practices Misogyny;
He is a fraud; and
He signed that piece of legislation back in 1996 called DOMA – knowing full well that the law is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

I hope he dies!

He is nothing more that bigoted scum!

He was “pretending” to be a Democrat on the outside, while he was really a Christian Taliban Republican President on the inside!

Men like that should be sent straight to the gas chambers!

I hate is guts, he is noting but a waste of space, the stupid bigoted old fool!

I am NOT a hateful person, I am SICK AND TIRED of bigoted pricks who have for far too long been getting away with treating us like a piece of dirt and political pawns!

I am fighting back anyway I can. I am so sick and tired of the Christian Taliban dictating all the time that what we domas gays are sick and that we are a threat to the family, etc

I am sick and tired of gay people not having the right to marry there partners, when stupid heterosexual couples (Britney Spears marriage for example lasting only 2 days – when you get gay couples that have been together for over 40 years and we are still denied a marriage licence).

I am sick and tired of bigotry

Tell me is that fair?

What about 76 countries (9 of those worse than jail and giving the death penalty) that still to this very day put gay men and lesbians in jails for private consensual adult same sex relations!

That is why I am a full pledged gay activist here in Australia and have been a gay activist since 2009!

Come to think of it, this 1996 law that he signed called DOMA was nothing more than a welcome distraction away from the adulterous affair he had with Monica Luinski.

He used us as political pawns as a distraction away from the adulterous affair and we still today pay the price. He can go to hell and I hope he dies a horrible death abandoned in a nursing home!

Stupid scumbag prick!

I will NEVER forgive him for what he has done to millions of gay couples who are unequal in the eyes of the law. In fact gay couples miss out on 1,157 rights, benefits, privileges and obligations because of this stupid and unconstitutional federal law called DOMA!

Those who are criticising this former president now should think back to the 1990s and ask themselves whether they believed then that marriage for same sex couples was anything more than a pipe dream.

A handful of particularly optimistic LGBT activists were seriously striving for equal marriage back then, it’s true. They were the forerunners of the subsequent whirlwind of change. But for most of us, the attitude back then was “marriage is for straights”.

Clinton is a Quisling, a dyed in the wool politician who said and did whatever it took to advance his political career, aims and wallet.

But then, almost 100% of all politicians are this way. Make no mistake, you are not getting a politicians personal POV while they are still in office, you are getting what they think their constituents and voters want. Only after they leave office do any personal POV or truths come out.

I agree with you that an apology for signing DOMA is in order. But not Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. DADT was the best Clinton could finally achieve after trying very very hard, as one of the first concerted actions he took after becoming president, to overturn the previous blanket ban on all lesbians and gays in the military. Clinton was trying to do something which Obama only finally succeeded in doing almost 20 years later.

What’s worse than a popular silver-tongued rogue?
A popular silver-tongued rogue who’s not on your side.
Welcome aboard, Bill. Keep talking the talk to millions of Americans who will listen to you. Your sincerity is, as ever, a secondary issue.

I’m surprised at the amount of vitriol directed at Clinton. Ten years ago in Australia Howard amended the Marriage Act to exclude same-sex couples. Many people supported the amendment then who have since changed their mind – and for this I don’t blame them. Even four years ago in Australia marriage equality was unthinkable. Times change, and people’s opinions change too. We should celebrate this.

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