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My favorite parts of the movie were the tiny references to Wizard of Oz. Like the blonde girl at the beginning, the one he told to go marry the other dude? That was Dorothy's mother.[quote]

I noticed that, and I thought it was pretty neat. And in some roundabout way, that reminded me, the other thing that really bugged me was that they never once gave the china girl a name.

[quote]I don't know what it is about con-men type characters, but I feel like their underused in movies. I enjoyed what they did with Oscar's character there. The only thing that I'd be wary about with a sequel is that he'd be too... good. Part of the appeal in this movie was that he started out kinda shady... good heart, but easily swayed by visions of grandeur.

I don't see how a sequel would really have that. Though, if it went through Wizard of Oz from his perspective and then ended up back in Kansas, the back in Kansas part could be pretty interesting. Though, it would also probably end up being pretty sad, given that everyone probably moved on with their lives. That and that he was probably in a coma this entire time.

True, this is probably the biggest thing that the new movie changed about what comes after. As I recall, in the original story, the wizard wanted to leave Oz. He kept the balloon he arrived in for all those years (where in the new film, [spoiler]first the balloon defies physics and sinks into a shallow river, then the second balloon gets destroyed[/spoiler], and as soon as Dorothy melted the witch, he was all set to take her home and leave Oz behind. In the new film, Oscar has far more reason to stay than he does to go back.

Also, it seems to me that Oz the Great and Powerful's version of Glinda is a much more active player than The Wizard of Oz's Glinda. I know that the whole thing was supposed to be sort of a journey of self-discovery for Dorothy, but I have a hard time imagining that the new Glinda would leave Dorothy to face some of the things she did (particularly coming face-to-face with the Wicked Witch multiple times), only stepping in at the poppy field and at the end.

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GuruGuru214;782085 said:

True, this is probably the biggest thing that the new movie changed about what comes after. As I recall, in the original story, the wizard wanted to leave Oz. He kept the balloon he arrived in for all those years (where in the new film, [spoiler]first the balloon defies physics and sinks into a shallow river, then the second balloon gets destroyed[/spoiler], and as soon as Dorothy melted the witch, he was all set to take her home and leave Oz behind. In the new film, Oscar has far more reason to stay than he does to go back.

Also, it seems to me that Oz the Great and Powerful's version of Glinda is a much more active player than The Wizard of Oz's Glinda. I know that the whole thing was supposed to be sort of a journey of self-discovery for Dorothy, but I have a hard time imagining that the new Glinda would leave Dorothy to face some of the things she did (particularly coming face-to-face with the Wicked Witch multiple times), only stepping in at the poppy field and at the end.

See, I was thinking that he just had the Emerald City people build him a new balloon when Dorothy showed up. Like, he could have gone any time he wanted, but wanted to make sure Oz was fixed up before he left. This would actually go quite nicely with the movie, considering that it was pretty much his fault that the Wicked Witch of the West existed.

And if you consider that in the movie, breaking a witch's power item takes away all their power, you can see that when he's asking Dorothy to bring the broom, his intention isn't to kill her, but to just make it so she can't hurt anyone anymore.

As for Glinda she may not have been helping Dorothy because she was busy fighting the war elsewhere and Dorothy didn't really seem all that interested in participating, just on getting home again. Of course, the way the movies work also point to everything being a dream, so inconsistencies are more or less canon in a weird way.

And if you consider that in the movie, breaking a witch's power item takes away all their power, you can see that when he's asking Dorothy to bring the broom, his intention isn't to kill her, but to just make it so she can't hurt anyone anymore.

Except that I interpreted the broom thing more like Glinda's bubbles. It's not really tied to her power, it's just for show. She certainly didn't need it to start with, even after the transformation. I don't think we ever really saw what her actual power item was.

I was just trying to stop newcomers from getting the idea that they ought to look up that thread in search of fap materials.

Why limit it to just the newcomers?

Alcoremortis;782047 said:

Yeah, this is kinda the wrong place to ask this. Not because it's not the support forum, but because "Whatever's on Your Mind" is full of the older generation of fans, many of whom hang out here because it's comfortable, not because we are actively playing or discussing the games.

Personally, I haven't actually visited a thread dedicated to a game in almost a year.

Yeah, I for one haven't played any TTG since Sam&Max S3, and I only got that because of some offer to do with Monkey Island. This forum is like an old pair of shoes. It no longer really fits, but I've grown so used to it I can't bring myself to part company with it.

In this analogy, my fellow forumites are the squishy insole that make the shoe so much better. You also all smell of mouldy old cheese.

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I'm not sure if Bruce Campbell has a cameo in EVERY Raimi movie, but he certainly does in a lot of them.

Alcoremortis;782090 said:

See, I was thinking that he just had the Emerald City people build him a new balloon when Dorothy showed up.

Didn't the balloon in the original film say "Omaha State Fair" or something on it? If it was a rebuild, they did well in keeping with the original style.

There were a couple of things that bugged me about The Great and Powerful Oz. The whole [spoiler]Theodora has a massive crush on Oz[/spoiler] thing didn't ring true for me at all, which was kind of a lynchpin. Like... [SPOILER]"Damn, I was totally into that guy I knew for a whole day! TEARS OF ACID!!"[/SPOILER]

Also, I love how Glinda's people are forbidden to kill, but apparently [spoiler]sending all those flying monkeys to "eternal sleep" in the poppy fields is a-ok. Good job on the semantics there, Glinda.[/spoiler]

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puzzlebox;782100 said:

There were a couple of things that bugged me about The Great and Powerful Oz. The whole [spoiler]Theodora has a massive crush on Oz[/spoiler] thing didn't ring true for me at all, which was kind of a lynchpin. Like... [SPOILER]"Damn, I was totally into that guy I knew for a whole day! TEARS OF ACID!!"[/SPOILER]

I saw it more as [Spoiler]this was the first person that she had ever loved and who she ever thought loved her back. And then, she "finds out" that he said all the same things to her sister... and also Glinda, who she's been brain-washed to hate. I felt that her reaction was more a response to feeling utterly betrayed by the first person (other than her sister) she'd ever thought she could trust. And her tears weren't acid. They were water, but remember, water melts her. This also lends a bit to my idea, because she's never had any cause to cry before now. It's her very first time someone has broken her heart, and it doesn't only hurt internally but externally as well.[/Spoiler]