Haskula Recycled by tzieg .keser shem tov took it from lekitei yekurim which took it from yoisher divrei emes but almost the same words are found in chovos halvovos see Gersohn Scholem's Notes, below: לקוטים יקרים. תקנ"ב.

I know the ungenerous conclusion some are reaching. But there are two phenomena that explain this.

1)The "Boruch She'kivanta" occurrence. This happens, more frequently than one would imagine. Two people come up with a similar, even identical approach to a possuk or Maamar Chazal. It happened to the Beis Halevi and Ohr Someyach. It happens in yeshiva all the time. Now regarding the idea being discussed, the Kotzker has a slightly similar approach too.

2) "The abundance of learning" effect. Also common, this results from a Jew

a) having learned so much from sefarim and rebbeim, and

b) having come up with his own chiddushim and biurim,

both for so long. In all honesty he thoroughly merges and integrates the taught ideas, usually with his own added insights, into his own system of thought and teachings.

there is some minor differences,the Mussar piece has a biur on the possuk Tami Urehou(which is utilized by chasidim alot) The Baal Shem Tov quotes a shalaas uteshouvas Panim Meoroth, which is not mentioned in the mussar piece.

Your points about "Un Dvilde Chasidim" is acceptable (see, we are the same!), but what are you suggesting really? That the Alter saw this vort in a Chassidshe "Buch" (kidding) and then decided to print it as his own? That is impossible to believe and I can think of 50 other possible answers how this happened before coming to that one.

in belz in contrast to other groups they did not learn muser, they learned gemarah rashi tosfos and that was enough, for extra just looking at the rebbi face (includes: forehead, eye, nose, lips, cheeks, hair) was enough to hold not to slip.

look into the lives of the children of the "yoshvim" and you know what i mean. thay had no sports ect. in this tiny narro minded village, that the youth went seeking it somewhere else, and when the higher ups woke up to something it was already to late.

in bobov muser niggunim bocherim played a big roll, it helped a lot, of belz of today copies all this, and so should others as well.

What's the problem?!?The B'sha'ar Hachochma page that you posted says "Rubam K'kulam Kisvei Rabeinu Z"l L'atzmo Hu".The Alter saw the vort, liked it and wrote it down. The publishers thought it was his own vort.

Machooh:Being choshed the Alter from Kelm in plagiarism is outrageous and ridiculous.The Musarnik seems to have the right explanation which is perfectly sensible.This is a much more serious infraction than being a kli shlishi for the Hilary picture.I guess there's no greater simcheh for a chosid than when he imagines he's caught a misnagid...

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