juggalos

I think a thread like this was posted at some point last year. I'd like to re-start one, just to see if the reactions are similar. The board seems to be littered with "youre so judgmental" comments lately, so I'm curious of how many of you would be ok with your children deciding to become or even associate with juggalos. Would you be totally ok with it, and base your opinion of their new friends ONLY upon character? Or would you not allow your DS/DD to dress like this and hang out with these people just because of what they look like?

As I recall from last year, not too many people would allow it, for whatever reason. It seems that A LOT of people are jumping on eachother for steriotyping, and judging others recently, so I'm wondering if this attitude applies to accepting people that dont conform to social norms.

For those of you who dont know what a juggalo or juggalette is, its basically a fan of the group insane clown posse (ICP). They basically dress gothic in style, and wear black and white "clown" facepaint.

I think a thread like this was posted at some point last year. I'd like to re-start one, just to see if the reactions are similar. The board seems to be littered with "youre so judgmental" comments lately, so I'm curious of how many of you would be ok with your children deciding to become or even associate with juggalos. Would you be totally ok with it, and base your opinion of their new friends ONLY upon character? Or would you not allow your DS/DD to dress like this and hang out with these people just because of what they look like?

As I recall from last year, not too many people would allow it, for whatever reason. It seems that A LOT of people are jumping on eachother for steriotyping, and judging others recently, so I'm wondering if this attitude applies to accepting people that dont conform to social norms.

For those of you who dont know what a juggalo or juggalette is, its basically a fan of the group insane clown posse (ICP). They basically dress gothic in style, and wear black and white "clown" facepaint.

OK, I'll jump on this! Honestly, the first thing I thought of when I saw this post was ICP. I was an impressionable youth when I first heard this group, never saw them live or anything; but I am a huge follower of other groups...as in having seen them many times (15+). Being a music nerd, as is my DH, I am pertty sure that DS will be as well. As long as he remains the same kid as I've always known, and performs well academically/socially, he is free to follow the music of his choosing.

OK, I'll jump on this! Honestly, the first thing I thought of when I saw this post was ICP. I was an impressionable youth when I first heard this group, never saw them live or anything; but I am a huge follower of other groups...as in having seen them many times (15+). Being a music nerd, as is my DH, I am pertty sure that DS will be as well. As long as he remains the same kid as I've always known, and performs well academically/socially, he is free to follow the music of his choosing.

Huh, I've never heard of a juggalo lol! You learn something new everyday. I would allow my child dress/do their make-up like that or be friends with someone who did, I don't see why not. As long as they are not dressing sl*tty, or doing anything permanent to their bodies or anything. The only thing I would be worried about is that it might make them a target for being bullied/beaten up but I would let that be their decision I guess. As for their friends, I would like to know their friends a bit and judge them by their personality rather than what they look like.

I would certainly find it interesting and as my child lots of questions about it though.

Huh, I've never heard of a juggalo lol! You learn something new everyday. I would allow my child dress/do their make-up like that or be friends with someone who did, I don't see why not. As long as they are not dressing sl*tty, or doing anything permanent to their bodies or anything. The only thing I would be worried about is that it might make them a target for being bullied/beaten up but I would let that be their decision I guess. As for their friends, I would like to know their friends a bit and judge them by their personality rather than what they look like.

I would certainly find it interesting and as my child lots of questions about it though.

I'd allow it, I think it would be wrong for me not to considering I was into icp all though high school, owned every cd, and went to hollowicked every year. I think alot of people get the wrong impression. I never dressed like that, or did drugs, and I hardly ever used profound language.i was a book worm and in honor band and a straight A student. Looking at me no one would have ever known I was into ICP. Granted their music is HIGHLY inappropriate (sp?) and offensive and I no longer listen to it now that I actually realize how awful it is, but if my dd is 15 and a freshman in high school I will have to face it that she is going to listen to what her friends are listening to at school, their homes, on the bus ect.

I'd allow it, I think it would be wrong for me not to considering I was into icp all though high school, owned every cd, and went to hollowicked every year. I think alot of people get the wrong impression. I never dressed like that, or did drugs, and I hardly ever used profound language.i was a book worm and in honor band and a straight A student. Looking at me no one would have ever known I was into ICP. Granted their music is HIGHLY inappropriate (sp?) and offensive and I no longer listen to it now that I actually realize how awful it is, but if my dd is 15 and a freshman in high school I will have to face it that she is going to listen to what her friends are listening to at school, their homes, on the bus ect.

Would you allow him to dress like a juggalo, wear the black and white facepaint, and bring his juggalo friends into your home? Or would that be limited to when he goes to see them live (if he were to take interest in them), or other gatherings where nearly everyone else would be wearing the same things?

Would you allow him to dress like a juggalo, wear the black and white facepaint, and bring his juggalo friends into your home? Or would that be limited to when he goes to see them live (if he were to take interest in them), or other gatherings where nearly everyone else would be wearing the same things?

honestly i hate the music. my ex was a huge fan and i find the lyrics appalling! i would not want my child listening to music like that. but if he did decide he wanted to hang out with those people and listen to the music we would have a long talk about how its not real and they are crazies.

honestly i hate the music. my ex was a huge fan and i find the lyrics appalling! i would not want my child listening to music like that. but if he did decide he wanted to hang out with those people and listen to the music we would have a long talk about how its not real and they are crazies.

I would not allow my child to participate in such a thing. I've seen how a majority act, and it's not acceptable. The ICP are awful role models. I also wouldn't let my child dress like a Pus$ycat Doll either, and that seems to be a societal norm.

I would not allow my child to participate in such a thing. I've seen how a majority act, and it's not acceptable. The ICP are awful role models. I also wouldn't let my child dress like a Pus$ycat Doll either, and that seems to be a societal norm.

I had my own little phase of being into ICP and dressing gothic in high school. I think that being able to experiment and play with my identity gave me a stronger foundation of who I am than if I werent allowed to. I will allow my son to decide who he is and how he wants to dress. Of course I have hopes that he wont need to jump from being a stoner, to being preppy, to goth, to emo, and back to preppy like I did, but if thats what he needs to do to find where he fits then fine (but I wont knowingly allow him to do drugs to fit in with the stoners).

I guess I should answer my own question, right?

I had my own little phase of being into ICP and dressing gothic in high school. I think that being able to experiment and play with my identity gave me a stronger foundation of who I am than if I werent allowed to. I will allow my son to decide who he is and how he wants to dress. Of course I have hopes that he wont need to jump from being a stoner, to being preppy, to goth, to emo, and back to preppy like I did, but if thats what he needs to do to find where he fits then fine (but I wont knowingly allow him to do drugs to fit in with the stoners).

I woudl draw the line there. their music is disgusting, (i hardly qualifies for music) I dislike the message it sends, I dislike the way they protray themselves and I ouldnt' want her to portray herslef like that to other people.Â

that said if they didn't have the association i\with vulger music and tashyness i wouldn't care, i dress up in harry potter crap at least three times a year.Â

I woudl draw the line there. their music is disgusting, (i hardly qualifies for music) I dislike the message it sends, I dislike the way they protray themselves and I ouldnt' want her to portray herslef like that to other people.Â

that said if they didn't have the association i\with vulger music and tashyness i wouldn't care, i dress up in harry potter crap at least three times a year.Â

What if it werent "juggalo" per se, but just gothic? Will you only allow your child to dress / act like the mainstream, even if that isnt what he/she wants? Do you think that placing that restriction (if you would) will cause your kid to resent you and eventually retaliate in worse ways than if you had allowed it in the first place?

What if it werent "juggalo" per se, but just gothic? Will you only allow your child to dress / act like the mainstream, even if that isnt what he/she wants? Do you think that placing that restriction (if you would) will cause your kid to resent you and eventually retaliate in worse ways than if you had allowed it in the first place?

I wouldn't allow all the face paint, just like there will not be mass amounts of makeup worn. They can listen to the music so long as it doesn't affect grades, attitude, over all demeanor. I'd allow my kids to hang out with people who dressed like that so long as their grades, etc. aren't affected. They can dress in all black if they want, but nothing ****ty.

I wouldn't allow all the face paint, just like there will not be mass amounts of makeup worn. They can listen to the music so long as it doesn't affect grades, attitude, over all demeanor. I'd allow my kids to hang out with people who dressed like that so long as their grades, etc. aren't affected. They can dress in all black if they want, but nothing ****ty.

Would you allow him to dress like a juggalo, wear the black and white facepaint, and bring his juggalo friends into your home?

I would like to believe that I would allow him to dress in whatever way suits him when he is a teenager. Facepaint, I would like to believe would be reserved for a very special occasion. But, if that was what he wanted to do, and how he wanted to spend his time, I would certainly not stop him. As long as he is being a reponsible teen, keeping up his grades in school, generally happy, not afraid/ashamed to confide in me for some things, and above all respects me as well as his father as parents, then no, I would have no problem with this behavior. BTW, same rules apply to his juggalo friends.

ETA: I agree, I would not like for my son to listen to such horribly explicit lyrics; however, I know how far that went for my parents; and eventually I much prefered the more mellow music anyhow!

Would you allow him to dress like a juggalo, wear the black and white facepaint, and bring his juggalo friends into your home?

I would like to believe that I would allow him to dress in whatever way suits him when he is a teenager. Facepaint, I would like to believe would be reserved for a very special occasion. But, if that was what he wanted to do, and how he wanted to spend his time, I would certainly not stop him. As long as he is being a reponsible teen, keeping up his grades in school, generally happy, not afraid/ashamed to confide in me for some things, and above all respects me as well as his father as parents, then no, I would have no problem with this behavior. BTW, same rules apply to his juggalo friends.

ETA: I agree, I would not like for my son to listen to such horribly explicit lyrics; however, I know how far that went for my parents; and eventually I much prefered the more mellow music anyhow!

yes, goth is fine, i was goth inschool. Â have no issues with self expession as long as its done without hate but ICP is known for violent lyices aout murder...(that and stupidity, how do magnets work? really? at least we got a good meme to bug the mormons with) as far as trashynss, I will appologize for offendng but most jggalos are trashy.Â

yes, goth is fine, i was goth inschool. Â have no issues with self expession as long as its done without hate but ICP is known for violent lyices aout murder...(that and stupidity, how do magnets work? really? at least we got a good meme to bug the mormons with) as far as trashynss, I will appologize for offendng but most jggalos are trashy.Â

I would let my kids. I've listened to icp since I was like 10. Not all their music is trashy like moms song and miracles those are great songs nothing bad their about how likes a miracle and we should realize everything around us and how much we should appreciate our moms

I would let my kids. I've listened to icp since I was like 10. Not all their music is trashy like moms song and miracles those are great songs nothing bad their about how likes a miracle and we should realize everything around us and how much we should appreciate our moms

You have my heart! Lol i as well "follwed them forany years. I went to every gathering and hallowicked for like 6-7 yrs along with every concert that came into chicago/michigan in those years. I actaully have Juggalette tattoed across my shoulders (it seemed like a good idea at the time and ive never regreted it) Ppl def. Do get the wrong impression of "us". Yes the lyrics of their songs are extremly harsh, but come on if you actually listen to it most of it is hillarious! And ill admit there are some (on the wrath) that i know have brought many to tears with the emotion, love and meaning. For many of the yrs i truely followed them it was me, my dd's father, my sister and my now BIL. Dd's father was the only one that ever dressed even slightly goth, i personally never have and never cared to. And none of us were ever into drugs more then smoking a little weed ever great once in a while. I actually always dressed kinda preppy. Dd's father was in complete shock when he figured out i was into that bc from the outside you would never guess that about me. I can honestly say some of the greatest nicest ppl i have ever met were at the concerts/gatherings. I will never forget me ad my BIL getting a little to close to the mosh pit and getting seperated. I was all of 18 he crowd surfed his was out and i had a total stranger pick me up an carry me out when he saw i couldnt get out on my own. So yes if either of my hildren want to one day experiment with that "lifestyle" i would gladly let them. Shoot i still have t-shirts, jerseys, hats from that time in my life along with 4 albums FULL of pictures from gatherings.

You have my heart! Lol i as well "follwed them forany years. I went to every gathering and hallowicked for like 6-7 yrs along with every concert that came into chicago/michigan in those years. I actaully have Juggalette tattoed across my shoulders (it seemed like a good idea at the time and ive never regreted it) Ppl def. Do get the wrong impression of "us". Yes the lyrics of their songs are extremly harsh, but come on if you actually listen to it most of it is hillarious! And ill admit there are some (on the wrath) that i know have brought many to tears with the emotion, love and meaning. For many of the yrs i truely followed them it was me, my dd's father, my sister and my now BIL. Dd's father was the only one that ever dressed even slightly goth, i personally never have and never cared to. And none of us were ever into drugs more then smoking a little weed ever great once in a while. I actually always dressed kinda preppy. Dd's father was in complete shock when he figured out i was into that bc from the outside you would never guess that about me. I can honestly say some of the greatest nicest ppl i have ever met were at the concerts/gatherings. I will never forget me ad my BIL getting a little to close to the mosh pit and getting seperated. I was all of 18 he crowd surfed his was out and i had a total stranger pick me up an carry me out when he saw i couldnt get out on my own. So yes if either of my hildren want to one day experiment with that "lifestyle" i would gladly let them. Shoot i still have t-shirts, jerseys, hats from that time in my life along with 4 albums FULL of pictures from gatherings.

Forgot to say.. I do still listen to them now just dont do the concerts, gatherings, hallowicked, christmas party etc anymore. Part of that is bc now i live in the middle mississippi where as before i was in chicago and it was more available.

Forgot to say.. I do still listen to them now just dont do the concerts, gatherings, hallowicked, christmas party etc anymore. Part of that is bc now i live in the middle mississippi where as before i was in chicago and it was more available.

Many of my friends, and my bestfriend is included, listen to ICP and consider themselves "juggalos" or"Juggalettes".Â

I do not judge these kids on what they look like one bit! But the type of music they listen to is very explicit and talks about things that I find to be completely inappropriate for someone of a certain age. My child will not listen to or associate with these people until I deem they are mature enough to do so.Â

Also, this culture is very, very known for their illegal drug usage and I will not allow my kid to even "experiment" until they are 18 and living outside of my home. There is no way in hell.Â

I think the music is stupid and I can't stand it, personally.Â

Many of my friends, and my bestfriend is included, listen to ICP and consider themselves "juggalos" or"Juggalettes".Â

I do not judge these kids on what they look like one bit! But the type of music they listen to is very explicit and talks about things that I find to be completely inappropriate for someone of a certain age. My child will not listen to or associate with these people until I deem they are mature enough to do so.Â

Also, this culture is very, very known for their illegal drug usage and I will not allow my kid to even "experiment" until they are 18 and living outside of my home. There is no way in hell.Â

Ok, ICP particularly, I hope DS is never into. I highly doubt he will be as he is only 19 m/o now. I am fairly certain they will have faded from the scene by the time DS is a teen. I guess what I took out of the context of this post was, "If your teen is into some outlandish band, with a very eclectic following of fans, would you allow that teen to participate in such a following." Perhaps I was reading too much into the op, but I think that I will give my son the freedom to participate in whatever scene is right for him, as long as my guidelines are being met.

Ok, ICP particularly, I hope DS is never into. I highly doubt he will be as he is only 19 m/o now. I am fairly certain they will have faded from the scene by the time DS is a teen. I guess what I took out of the context of this post was, "If your teen is into some outlandish band, with a very eclectic following of fans, would you allow that teen to participate in such a following." Perhaps I was reading too much into the op, but I think that I will give my son the freedom to participate in whatever scene is right for him, as long as my guidelines are being met.

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