Benjamin Seidenberg <astronut@dlgeek.net> wrote:
> Say (said, saying, says):
> 2. To express in words: Say what's on your mind.
> 3. a. To state as one's opinion or judgment; declare: I say let's eat out.
> b. To state as a determination of fact: It's hard to say who is
> right in this matter..
>
> Since you expressed your opinion in words, I think the use of the word
> \"said\" is quite proper
I disagree. Also, I think it would be better to use a dictionary
that shows whether the verb is transitive or intransitive for
each meaning, and state to which dictionary you are referring.
> > Any voices you heard reading debian-vote to you today
> >were not mine. If you can't distinguish between me and the voices
> >you hear reading debian-vote to you, please ask your doctor.
>
> As a neutral party to this debate, I nonetheless think that such a
> insult, even if said jokingly and meant to be funny detracts from the
> value of open and productive discourse. Let us debate grand and noble
> ideas, not get bogged down in petty details.
In case you hadn't noticed, Matthew Garrett insults me in almost
every reply for months now. Why don't you ever complain about it?
If you wanted to debate grand and noble ideas, why not complain
about introduction of the off-topic wife-beating old chestnut?
I feel both of those detract from productive discourse more than
riffing on the low linguistic register of a message.
If you want to debate grand ideas: What role should
socio-religious views play in the Debian project?
Would using differences in beliefs about death
as a motive to call for expulsion (as threatened in
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/01/msg00929.html
and explained in
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/01/msg00968.html )
be good for Debian if it happens? If it's OK to expel some DDs
for holding minority beliefs and therefore improve the cultural
homogeneity of the project, what beliefs should it be done for?
On Deaths? Births? Sexuality? Churches? Prayer? Business ethics?
Replies to final paragraph to -project, please, else direct.
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