Wow this is great news its 3000 less mustangs and challengers.It great to see that the camaro is selling great and so far its succesfull and i hope it sells more than 100,000 in its 1st year.This is so emotional does anyone have a tissue?

I know here in MI the dealers finally got there act together. Although theorder sheet he sent me still doesn't have the $$$ in the work sheet?????? WT!!! anyway he assured me it is in the system.

They are alloted 32 over their 5-6 dealerships and I was on thursday. They only required $500 down and it is refundable if I don't take delivery!!!!!! Yea right knowbody else is getting my ride!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My dealer expected them to be sold out of allocation over the weekend. It wil be interesting to here????

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Hey tonytheTiger - I too am not a Ford Mustang Fan but thats ok - I saw great sticker had a bow tie eating a ford emblem and pill of dung behind it with a charger in the middle

Showed the boys some pics and they they are going to name her Tigger...long story but had an SSR Yellow and one of my bros named it Pooh - didn't mine its all about turned heads - so go big or stay home right

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I am going to call my dad's work tomorrow and find out how many have been ordered at their dealership. I can't wait to be one of the 3,000 or however many people order it!! It's going to be a awesome car and awesome year.

So Saturday morning I go to my dealer and the 3 that they had were already ordered and accounted for...so now im on a crazy hunt..but with work and school I wont be able to go on my hunt until next weekend...not to mention they want 2,000 for the deposit and they are chargin 5k over msrp!!! I dont want to do business with these clowns anyway.....im just afraid by this weekend...I will be too late and there will be no more at any other dealers here in the bay area for all of you who have ordered...should I stand firm and demand that I get the car at MSRP????..Ohhh The Agony :(

No, they can start as early as they want, as long as the emissions and other requirements that have been set for 2010 have been met. It all depends on when the government releases that information, but it's probably out already.

They cannot start production of any 2010 model before January 1st 2009...

Talked to the local dealer Saturday, they can order 13 and as of Saturday they have had 3 orders... not a good sign for this area.. Selling at MSRP on these orders...

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I went back to my dealer on Friday evening to make a change to my order (color, MX0 vs MN6 and factory stripes) during my visit I asked him how many allocations he had. He said only 9 for the first 5 months of production. He said he has more allocations for the vette - He said - ”wanna order a new vette”????

He also said of the nine, mine was the ONLY firm order so far. Everyone that was on their waiting list has opted out. When I asked him why he said because "some dealers" are discounting the Corvette so heavily and they are readily available it's killing him and others.

This seems so typical of GM's dysfunctional business and management practices these days. But he does have a point; you can buy a new 2009 1LT vette for $41K or a 2SS for $36K (or more with some of the obscene dealer mark ups being applied), this could skim off some potential Camaro buyers. Talk about “eating their own”.

I wonder how many new Camaro buyers will "opt out"in the coming months and buy a new vette, especially if we get into next spring and folks arent't getting their cars??

Well that is probably BS for the simple reason that the system they use to book a car could not handle processing 1,000 orders in 40 minutes.

Also, the Solstice ordering occurred when the car came on-line, not 5 months before with no advertising whatsoever as is the case now.

No BS.. They had a different system for ordering back in 2005 each division had their own ordering system...I know what I am talking about, many dealers couldn't get into the system because it was jammed with dealers ordering.. I followed the Solstice from concept to production, as I have with the Camaro... There has beem much more information available throughout the Camaro development than there was with the Solstice. The first time the General public got a preview of the Solstice was on the Apprentice TV show just before orders were taken(and that is when they announced the orders being taken for the first 1000 Solstices). About the advertizing, I have seen billboards with the Camaro on it for a year now, some even said it was the 2009 Camaro... And dealers around here have been advertizing about taking orders for the new Camaro also... still not a record breaker, but in these times it is a good sign that people want one. I just hope it picks up. The cuttoff date they tell me is October 31st for the "Sold Orders"

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So Saturday morning I go to my dealer and the 3 that they had were already ordered and accounted for...so now im on a crazy hunt..but with work and school I wont be able to go on my hunt until next weekend...not to mention they want 2,000 for the deposit and they are chargin 5k over msrp!!! I dont want to do business with these clowns anyway.....im just afraid by this weekend...I will be too late and there will be no more at any other dealers here in the bay area for all of you who have ordered...should I stand firm and demand that I get the car at MSRP????..Ohhh The Agony :(

What dealer are you talking about? Like Tag' mentioned below, I think Mindz's been working on trying to find dealers up here to work with. Although I'm not endorsing them (I did buy my '02 from them), I think Folsom Chevy said they'd sell at MSRP, according to Mindz. Please don't quote me, because I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I think that's what he's posted in the California Section. I don't think I'd give Daugherty a chance, although, I've never had a sales experience with them (only service). Sullivan in Roseville may work with you, but those are the only ones around Sacramento that I know of.

Personally, I'm thinking of going to the outskirts of Sacramento to find a deal. I know when I was working in Woodland, that the Dodge dealer there wasn't charging mark-ups on Vipers because they were a pretty small dealer and just thought that small-town mentality would hold true to the other dealers in the area. I know my dealer didn't mark-up.

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talk to Mindz...think he's doing some sort of group buy....ya'll need to talk to a fleet guy.

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I went back to my dealer on Friday evening to make a change to my order (color, MX0 vs MN6 and factory stripes) during my visit I asked him how many allocations he had. He said only 9 for the first 5 months of production. He said he has more allocations for the vette - He said - ”wanna order a new vette”????

He also said of the nine, mine was the ONLY firm order so far. Everyone that was on their waiting list has opted out. When I asked him why he said because "some dealers" are discounting the Corvette so heavily and they are readily available it's killing him and others.

This seems so typical of GM's dysfunctional business and management practices these days. But he does have a point; you can buy a new 2009 1LT vette for $41K or a 2SS for $36K (or more with some of the obscene dealer mark ups being applied), this could skim off some potential Camaro buyers. Talk about “eating their own”.

I wonder how many new Camaro buyers will "opt out"in the coming months and buy a new vette, especially if we get into next spring and folks arent't getting their cars??

What is up with that?! Even if I could get a 1LT 'Vette for that price, I'd still get a Camaro anyways. Shoot, even if there were a model down the road that was in the mid-40s, I'd still get it over a 'Vette because I'm just a Camaro guy. Perhaps that's what GM is thinking...

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I went back to my dealer on Friday evening to make a change to my order (color, MX0 vs MN6 and factory stripes) during my visit I asked him how many allocations he had. He said only 9 for the first 5 months of production. He said he has more allocations for the vette - He said - ”wanna order a new vette”????

He also said of the nine, mine was the ONLY firm order so far. Everyone that was on their waiting list has opted out. When I asked him why he said because "some dealers" are discounting the Corvette so heavily and they are readily available it's killing him and others.

This seems so typical of GM's dysfunctional business and management practices these days. But he does have a point; you can buy a new 2009 1LT vette for $41K or a 2SS for $36K (or more with some of the obscene dealer mark ups being applied), this could skim off some potential Camaro buyers. Talk about “eating their own”.

I wonder how many new Camaro buyers will "opt out"in the coming months and buy a new vette, especially if we get into next spring and folks arent't getting their cars??

This is were the choice becomes tough for me. Iam partial to camaro, my first car was a 1986 camaro with the 5.0 ( 305) v8, then a 91z28, a 98 trans am, a 2001 som camaro ss and now an 05 gto. Iam really turned off by the weight of this thing, its a little heavier than my gto but I will wait to see what people are running in the quarter mile with them before I deicide that Iam geting one. My buddies Ls3 vette runs 12.3's @ 117.7 bone stock. Iam currious to see what the camaro does as I have been leaning towards a vette cause I want the Lighter car and the ability to put some wide tires on the back. But only time will tell and make no mistake I love the camaro, I find myself draw to it over the vette but the weight just kills it for me

This is were the choice becomes tough for me. Iam partial to camaro, my first car was a 1986 camaro with the 5.0 ( 305) v8, then a 91z28, a 98 trans am, a 2001 som camaro ss and now an 05 gto. Iam really turned off by the weight of this thing, its a little heavier than my gto but I will wait to see what people are running in the quarter mile with them before I deicide that Iam geting one. My buddies Ls3 vette runs 12.3's @ 117.7 bone stock. Iam currious to see what the camaro does as I have been leaning towards a vette cause I want the Lighter car and the ability to put some wide tires on the back. But only time will tell and make no mistake I love the camaro, I find myself draw to it over the vette but the weight just kills it for me

Would you stop loving your wife because she got fatter?

And seriously... if you are waiting on buying the car til you see what it runs in the 1/4, you are buying it for the wrong reason.