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Re: Election Day 2012 Thread

At least Mitt tried to be a Christian dead eyes and all. Carter's was said to cry when he was told on the eve of the election
he couldn't win. Mitt's eyes had to be tired and he was upset and disappointed after a long hard fought campaign he almost
won. It took a great comeback and a hurricane for him to lose it so anyone's eyes would have been like that.

BTW, stocks plunged 1% in the wake of the re-election in the Divided States of America. Looks like Wall Street is on
suicide watch now and that's bad for everyone's pocket books.

Re: Election Day 2012 Thread

Originally Posted by AirFlacco

At least Mitt tried to be a Christian dead eyes and all. Carter's was said to cry when he was told on the eve of the election
he couldn't win. Mitt's eyes had to be tired and he was upset and disappointed after a long hard fought campaign he almost
won. It took a great comeback and a hurricane for him to lose it so anyone's eyes would have been like that.

BTW, stocks plunged 1% in the wake of the re-election in the Divided States of America. Looks like Wall Street is on
suicide watch now and that's bad for everyone's pocket books.

Re: Election Day 2012 Thread

The stock market plunge has more to do with the "Fiscal Cliff" that is looming at the start of January. Once a deal is made (and we should all pray a deal is made regardless of political leaning) the markets should stabilize. No matter who was elected, this was going to be dealt with by the 112th congress, so hopefully congress finally gets to work.

The reason the markets are so skittish over this is that we're talking about automatic budget cuts and taxes that will remove 5-6% of National GDP which is a BFD.

Re: Election Day 2012 Thread

Yea, but you'd think the re-election would have saved it from plunging.

Wall St acts on stuff like that, especially something as emotional and big like that, anything emotional.
Not even the Chosen One could save people from losing money today. Let's see if he does in January
but don't forget his class warfare. The people want it.

Re: Election Day 2012 Thread

Originally Posted by NCCRavensFan

The stock market plunge has more to do with the "Fiscal Cliff" that is looming at the start of January. Once a deal is made (and we should all pray a deal is made regardless of political leaning) the markets should stabilize. No matter who was elected, this was going to be dealt with by the 112th congress, so hopefully congress finally gets to work.

The reason the markets are so skittish over this is that we're talking about automatic budget cuts and taxes that will remove 5-6% of National GDP which is a BFD.

Agree to a point.

People are also concerned about where to put their money, thanks to $16 Trillion in debt with only $15 Trillion in circulation. That's far more of an issue than next years budget.

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As times are probably high for political/moral frustrations toward America, I genuinely suggest you read "Ideas Have Consequences" by Richard Weaver. It outlines man and civilization and how he destroys it. It is prophetic in its claims. When reading you would be hard pressed to believe it was written in 1948.

A glimpse:

The fight is being waged on all fronts, and the most insidious idea employed to break down society is an undefined equalitarianism. That this concept does not make sense even in the most elementary applications has proved no deterrent to its spread, and we shall have something to say later on about modern man's growing incapacity for logic. An American political writer of the last century, confronted with the statement that all men are created free and equal, asked whether it would not be more accurate to say that no man was ever created free and no two men ever created equal. Such hardheadedness would today be mistaken for frivolity. Thomas Jefferson, after his long apostleship to radicalism, made it the labor of his old age to create an educational system which would be a means of sorting out according to gifts and attainments.

Such equalitarianism is harmful because it always presents itself as a redress of injustice, whereas in truth it is the very opposite. I would mention here the fact, obvious to any candid observer, that "equality" is found most often in the mouths of those engaged in artful self-promotion. These secretly cherish the ladder to high designs but find that they can mount the lower rungs more easily by making use of the catchword. We do not necessarily grudge them their rise, but the concept they foster is fatal to the harmony of the world.

The comity of peoples in groups large or small rests not upon this chimerical notion of equality but upon fraternity, a concept which long antedates it in history because it goes immeasurably deeper in human sentiment. The ancient feeling of brotherhood carries obligations of which equality knows nothing. It calls for respect and protection, for brotherhood is status in family, and family is by nature hierarchical. It demands patience with little brother, and it may sternly exact duty of big brother. It places people in a network of sentiment, not of rights-that hortus siccus of modern vainglory.

Equality is a disorganizing concept in so far as human relationships mean order. It is order without a design; it attempts a meaningless and profitless regimentation of what has been ordered from time immemorial by the scheme of things. No society can rightly offer less than equality before the law; but there can be no equality of condition between youth and age or between the sexes; there cannot be equality even between friends. The rule is that each shall act where he is strong; the assignment of identical roles produces first confusion and then alienation, as we have increasing opportunity to observe. Not only is this disorganizing heresy busily confounding the most natural social groupings, it is also creating a reservoir of poisonous envy. How much of the frustration of the modern world proceeds from starting with the assumption that all are equal, finding that this cannot be so, and then having to realize that one can no longer fall back on the bond of fraternity!

It is generally assumed that the erasing of all distinctions will usher in the reign of pure democracy. But the inability of pure democracy to stand for something intelligible leaves it merely a verbal deception. If it promises equality before the law, it does no more than empires and monarchies have done and cannot use this as a ground to assert superiority. If it promises equality of condition, it promises injustice, because one law for the ox and the lion is tyranny. Pressure from the consumer instinct usually compels it to promise the latter. When it was found that equality before the law has no effect on inequalities of ability and achievement, humanitarians concluded that they had been tricked into asking only part of their just claim. The claim to political equality was then supplemented by the demand for economic democracy, which was to give substance to the ideal of the levelers. Nothing but a despotism could enforce anything so unrealistic, and this explains why modern governments dedicated to this program have become, under one guise and another, despotic.