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Well I knew he wouldn't kill her when he said, "And I thought I'd thrown them away."Seeing as the title refered to ideals. I just don't see those ideals condoning killing a little girl. No matter how merciless and pretty evil she appears to be. I agree he probably wouldn't want to kill someone he knew, though it seems he doesn't have a ton of fond memories of her if that's what he said about her.

besides, Archer is lolicon how could any heroic spirit let alone a lolicon hurt a cute loli like illya

Well I knew he wouldn't kill her when he said, "And I thought I'd thrown them away."Seeing as the title refered to ideals. I just don't see those ideals condoning killing a little girl. No matter how merciless and pretty evil she appears to be. I agree he probably wouldn't want to kill someone he knew, though it seems he doesn't have a ton of fond memories of her if that's what he said about her.

lol nice..
i thought it said archer didnt remember his past..
so how would he know he was shirou..

He didn't remember his past. The memories were coming back to him, probably over the course of the whole series, judging by his remarks to Shirou. By the time of the fight with Berserker they were pretty much all back even if he didn't want them.

He didn't remember his past. The memories were coming back to him, probably over the course of the whole series, judging by his remarks to Shirou. By the time of the fight with Berserker they were pretty much all back even if he didn't want them.

oh yeah..now i remember how it adds up

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for example when he said " i thought i left behind those ideals" and it showed the flashback of shirou and rin at the church talking..how he didnt want to kill anyone cuz he could've easily gone for that loli girl

The arrows needed to hurt Berserker is not many and the fact Archer has even arrow that actually defeated Berserker once is shocking enough. Even in mythology, Hercules never got hurt by anything. So, that's why Ilya was going O_o when it did happen.

And then theres that bit about killing him 12 times -.- I almost felt a shiver go down my spine when I saw Archer use UBW its really too bad he had to go before we found out more about him T-T

Bit offtopic but damn the begining of the Archer and Berserker fight reminded me of the recent bouts I had with Sephiroh in KH2...... jumping around dodging and chiping away at his hp then getting owned, though in a less spectacular fashion then Archer....

i knew archer was stong but not THAT strong.. totally wasnt expecting him to kick this much ass
i mean come on man..he got his assed kick in like epsode 2 by 1 hit from saber..and took 13 epsodes to fully recover
ep 14 was frikking suprizing
conclusion-archer ownss especially his arrow attack craazy
too bad he dies...he should've just ran away!!!!!!!!!!!!1

For some reason, this episode seemed to zip by rather quickly for me.
But yeah, Archer definately kicked ass in that battle with Berzerker.
I get the feeling whether we like it or not, Ilya is in for a world of payback.

For some reason, this episode seemed to zip by rather quickly for me.
But yeah, Archer definately kicked ass in that battle with Berzerker.
I get the feeling whether we like it or not, Ilya is in for a world of payback.

True, but Rin is also in it too... I don't think she'll forgive Ilya for what she's done.

I really hate tho what they turned Hercules into Hercules was good and defended the people. In the anime and I guess the game they turned him into a brainless evil bastard that will kill for no reason.

I might add that Heracles killed his family TWICE. (Once on the influence of Hera, granted.) I'm sure summoning a demi-god isn't fair...

I might add that Heracles killed his family TWICE. (Once on the influence of Hera, granted.) I'm sure summoning a demi-god isn't fair...

yup summoning a demi-god is gay.
of all of them y heracles. + his in that beserker form..

poor archer..
if he fought other servants he'd prob own them after watching him kill hercales 5 times.
kinda wonder y 1 hit from saber took him 13 epsodes to recover..
if just pulled off what he did here

kinda wonder y 1 hit from saber took him 13 epsodes to recover..
if just pulled off what he did here

I think firstly, Saber took him by surprise - she had just been summoned, so Archer had no time to defend, and secondly, it can take quite some time for deep wounds to heal, and the timescale is surprisingly short in these 14 episodes...

I think Archer would have absolutely owned every servant we've seen so far (including Saber)...just not Berserker