I saw some stories about... Actually, I should more accurately say I saw blog posts speculating on what would happen to turnout. Some of them made the point that there really isn't a whole lot of turnout energy, that conservative turnout's kinda flapping away in the wind. And if Condoleezza Rice had happened to be the nominee, it could suppress turnout.

And I read that and it boggles my mind.

I could be dead wrong about it, bit when I see blog posts that conservative turnout is down because they hate Romney and are unhappy that Romney's the nominee, and conservatives are already thinking sitting it out and sitting at home?

And if Rice is the choice, that's bad?

I'm thinking, "What the hell is going on out there?" If that's true, if there are a bunch of you people sitting around there thinking you're not gonna vote 'cause Romney's the nominee and if he chooses Condoleezza it's over, then I have lost touch with you!

I have lost touch with you. I don't understand that at all.

If they fully implement Obamacare, it's not just babies in the womb that are gonna be killed! That's his point. So what does it matter?

Now, it matters because it's morality.

It matters, and you should never compromise your morality. But you do have to keep things in perspective. And you do have to have your eye on the big prize and what is going to enable you to have your morality prevail (or to have a chance to, at any rate).

But if there are people out there who are saying, "You know what? (grumbling) I don't like Romney so much and I'm thinking not voting,"

“I’m thinking, “What the hell is going on out there?” If that’s true, if there are a bunch of you people sitting around there thinking you’re not gonna vote ‘cause Romney’s the nominee and if he chooses Condoleezza it’s over, then I have lost touch with you! I have lost touch with you. I don’t understand that at all.”

Dear Rush...yes you have lost touch with us, but you need to examine your own stance to understand your inability to understand. You are too quick to allow Romney to be POTUS because you don’t hold to the “morale/social” conservative viewpoint. You are more focused on the other two legs...I think mainly “economic.” I have always known you were part of the GOPe as Ann Coulter...you need to break to bonds. Don’t just “talk the talk”, you need to “walk the walk” and fully break ties with the GOPe (you are not fully Tea Party as you say). I think you need to take to heart what Jim Robinson has repeatedly said in many different ways. What follows is a lengthy (unedited and spot on) quote by Jim Robinson:

You either defend life and liberty or you dont.

Im sworn to defend it from all enemies foreign and domestic and an oath is forever.

Obama believes in the power of the state. Romney believes in the power of the state. Both have records of abortionism, homosexualism, progressivism, statism. Neither defends the constitution or life and liberty.

Those who line up with either are lining up to give unlimited powers to the state and place severe limitations on liberty and individual freedom.

Im very sorry to have to report to you, my dear friends, that barring a miracle we pro-life and liberty conservatives have already lost the battle for the presidency. With either one of these two statists in power and with the current frame of mind of the SCOTUS, we have witnessed the end of constitutional government in America.

Our only prayer will be that we elect a majority of constitutionally minded conservatives into a majority of the legislative bodies all across this great land so that we the people can we re-assert our sovereign powers and impeach/recall/expel/fire and otherwise remove, rescind, overturn, repeal, abolish, close down and shutter all the corrupt usurping executives, legislators, judges and their corrupt usurping decrees, acts, amendments, treaties, decisions, departments, agencies, commissions, regulations, etc, and fully restore the constitution, restore the limits on government power and restore our God-given Liberty!!

Short of civil war, thats how you mend it.

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posted on 07/13/2012 8:06:47 PM PDT
by Sola Veritas
(Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)

How odd and ironic. I get the feeling that I don't know Rush. Thought I did ... was mistaken. And he sure as hell doesn't know me. Thought he did ... was mistaken.

I will be voting, and will urge any conservative who's thinking of staying home, to vote. The only hope we have of helping conservatives in Congress is of voting for conservatives down ticket and voting top of the ticket such as to make it so whichever bastard wins the White House, LACKS A MANDATE in the popular vote. The only way we can do that is by casting a vote and having it registered in the popular vote count. I'm voting FOR a plurality and therefore FOR denying the winner a mandate; I'm voting third party at the top of the ticket. Every vote counts in measuring the degree of mandate the winner can claim. The more votes that go third party, the weaker the mandate of WHICHEVER guy wins.

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posted on 07/13/2012 8:08:10 PM PDT
by Finny
(A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)

“It matters, and you should never compromise your morality. But you do have to keep things in perspective.”

Rush, you say “never compromise your morality”, which voting for Romney would do...then you contradict yourself and waffle by saying “keep things in perspective.” Rush...it is YOU THAT ISN’T KEEPING THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE!

I still like you Rush, but on this you are just plain wrong...as is Coulter. Romney DOES NOT deserve our support anymore than Obama. The “Prize” is getting a conservative POTUS....voting for Romney WILL NOT accomplish that, and it may actually hamper it.

I wonder how many may stop listening to Rush now? Another sell out to the GOPe! I can hear the clicks all over the U.S.

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posted on 07/13/2012 8:14:16 PM PDT
by Sola Veritas
(Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)

“I’m voting FOR a plurality and therefore FOR denying the winner a mandate; I’m voting third party at the top of the ticket. Every vote counts in measuring the degree of mandate the winner can claim. The more votes that go third party, the weaker the mandate of WHICHEVER guy wins.”

Amen to that Bro! Keep up the good work! I agree 100%!

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posted on 07/13/2012 8:16:40 PM PDT
by Sola Veritas
(Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)

He says one thing that you don’t agree with and you are ready to dump him? You must not have been listening to him for very long to say such a thing. I disagree with Rush several times a day while listening to him, but for the other 99 percent of the time I agree with him.

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posted on 07/13/2012 8:23:54 PM PDT
by doc1019
(Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)

I will not vote for Romney. I was not going to vote for the office of President in 2008, until Palin joined the team. I refuse to hold my nose again for a GOPe candidate. If they want my vote, they need to come to me.

I also think he’s more focused on the two-legs of the stool - economic and foreign policy/military. I think even our ‘Conservative leaders’ have become corrupted by this culture that the church itself let slide into lukewarm irrelevance.

Perhaps he should read John Adams a bit more, the President who said that our Constitution was made soley for a ‘moral and religious people’ because only a self-governing people beholden to moral and religious principles have little use for a powerful government of men.

America is very much like Ancient Israel was during the period of the evil Judges - when the corruption and evil of the culture and people was even worse than that of the heathen nations around them. No decent leaders could be found among them, nor could righteous men have a hope of being chosen to lead the corrupt nation. Israel kept choosing wicked leaders that waxed worse and worse until they collapsed from within and were taken over by alien powers that brought the remnant of it’s citizens not killed outright into slavery.

History does repeat - and given the fact that NONE of our national blessings come from ourselves, I have to wonder that a nation and culture that no longer puts morality front and center has a snowball’s chance on the sun to keep the other two legs from collapsing into ruin.

I will be voting this November - but NOT for the Romney trap being set for us by the Ruling Class.

In fact, my mindset is far past November and fully expecting no change except from bad to worse - and that is where my attentions and efforts are now focused.

I took the oath which I take seriously and I intend to keep it, especially since the opposition is a proven communist who is destroying our country. I am not going to enable a communist to finish destroying our country.

Rommney sucks, but I have no choice this year. I will keep trying to get a conservative in the next primary.

Damn. Did you even read my post? I said nothing about dumping him, I said he doesn’t know me. I suggest you take some refresher course in reading comprehension. Good gracious, the post was only one sentence long.

It’s an election year. Rush always totally carries the water for republicans during election years. I can hardly blame him in this case, because I don’t know about everyone else, but I’d vote for Micky Mouse over 0bama.(Micky Mouse would actually be better than Romney too)

This election year doesn’t even feel like one to me. I’m about as enthusiastic when it comes to voting for Romney as I am about a trip to the DMV.

Rush seems to be simply saying that we have two choices for President, so if you don't like either, you can choose the lesser of two evils. And though some think Romney another sort of devil, he really IS our only choice to defeat Obama. And if he chooses Condoleeza Rice, he'll STILL be our only choice to defeat Obama. Neither are my favorites, but I'll gladly take either, or BOTH over Obama.

We can work hard to get conservatives in Congress to replace the profligate Democrats and RINOs, and it is they who will do the work of legislation that will cut taxes, and make changes in Federal programs like Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and Sallie Mae, and attempt to cut funding to programs like Planned Parenthood. It won't be either the President or the Vice President who will do that, so their philosophies won't come into play, other than to have give an overall idea.

Sitting this election out in a snit over Romney, or his choice of Veep, is frankly cutting off one's nose to spite one's face, because the lack of a vote for Romney only increases Obama's chance to be re-elected. And considering what Obama has done during the past four years, we simply cannot afford four more years of him as President.

I think you very well may be onto something here. The entire thing seems as rigged as a professional wrestling match. The whole thing seems about as fake is it can be. Romney is just in there to take the fall. No matter what happens, we need enough conservatives to hold House seats to protect us from whichever of those liberals win.

I think you very well may be onto something here. The entire thing seems as rigged as a professional wrestling match. The whole thing seems about as fake is it can be. Romney is just in there to take the fall. No matter what happens, we need enough conservatives to hold House seats to protect us from whichever of those liberals win.

Republicans, you mean "Establishment Republicans", are happier not being responsible ...

It ain't over ... till it's over. We don't have to chose, until our time comes to chose. I'm going to do the best I can with the time I have, to expose Willard for the RINO he is. But I will not support a RINO, no matter what! The "Establishment Republicans" are a worse enemy than the Communists, because they tear us down from the inside.

We have to vote for who we want to vote for, and ignore the LAME Stream Media's constant drumming for LOSER MITT. They want MITT because he's the easiest to defeat. Look what Rush said (5th paragraph from the end) about what the "Establishment Republicans" think Mitt's chances are.

" But let me just close this out by saying

the Democrats have insisted for 75 years that Social Security is an insurance program

that you are contributing a percentage of your paycheck into your own account,

which is part of a trust fund, to pay for your retirement benefit.

It is not, they insist, it is not welfare,it is not an entitlement program.

It is insurance.

They've told us this for 75 years. Like an annuity program.

Meanwhile, every argument they are making now strips bare the big lie that they've been telling for 75 years. If this payroll tax cut is a tax cut, then Social Security is not an insurance program.And yet we're gonna run around and let them have it both ways

because we're afraid of the optics or we're afraid because Obama's African-American?

Is it a welfare or entitlement program and the money people are having withheld from their paychecks

is not an insurance contribution, then it's a tax. Pure and simple.

But they've sold this as an insurance program

and all of a sudden now we're cutting taxes on this program?

It's a welfare or entitlement program. The money people are having withheld from their paychecks is not an insurance contribution, [it's] a tax, that's what they're telling us now? Okay, then you are being taxed to pay for somebody else's retirement. Now, the fact that the Republican establishment cannot make that case and other arguments tells me that they may have already surrendered,

and this is a big difference between us and the establishment.

They're in this defensive posture, I've told you,I said on Greta how many times,

a lot of people inside the Republican establishment secretly don't even believe Obama can be beaten.And that's why they want Romney,

'cause they think at least Romney will help 'em take the Senate.He'll lose less down the ballot than Gingrich or some conservative will.

But conservatives, you Tea Party activists, you don't want to give up and you haven't given up, and you don't want to accept this propaganda from the left. We insist on challenging it, we insist on fighting it

'cause there's no other way to save the country,and continually playing these games

letting the Democrats rewrite the language, change the definition of things, get away with false accusations against us, never do anything about it, constantly stay on defense. "

" We must go forth from here united, determined that what a great general said a few years ago is true:

" There is no substitute for victory, Mr. President. " "

How many times has the "Republican Establishment" treated us to one lecture after the other on the need for compromise and patience.? After we elect and RE-elect the "Republican Establishment", they conduct themselves with none of the confidence and enthusiasm with which they expressed themselves on the campaign trail. It may be worth it for the GOP to lose some elections - if it means that conservativesand the countrywill ultimately win.

If we didnt know it before, WE ... the Tea Partiers, now knows that accepting short-term loss in exchange for long-term gain is the essence of compromise, the essence of politics.

Ironically, we can thank the "Republican Establishment" for impressing this so indelibly upon us!!! I'm fresh out of "patience", and I'm not in the mood for "compromise". "COMPROMISE" to me is a dirty word. Let the RINO's compromise their values, with the conservatives, for a change.

My dislike for the Democratic Party is second to none. But my ... LOATHING ... for the "Establishment Republicans" ... is even stronger! The "Establishment Republicans", ... and especially MITT ROMNEY ... , can go to hell!

I do not know how so many folks - including Rush, cannot comprehend what is self-evident here, especially in hindsight of 2008 and the abject contempt the Ruling Class has shown Conservatives since Reagan left office.

I am literally laughing when I hear Levin and Rush exclaim bewilderment over Romney’s seeming sheepishness/unwillingness to hit back at Obama in ways that take the fight to him.

Especially considering the absolute no-holds-barred fashion the Romney campaign went after every Conservative running in this cycle. But for Obama - we get feigned opposition with no teeth from Romney.

I guess it would be bewildering if you actually fell for the show that the Ruling Class oligarchy has established in the chosen choice for Obama’s opponent.

>> Rush, you say never compromise your morality, which voting for Romney would do

In my calculation, fewer nascent lives will suffer from abortion with Republicans in 3 Houses notwithstanding the fact that Romney has indeed betrayed Life. My vote wouldn’t necessarily be for Romney, it would be for Life. A 2nd term for Obama would keep the Life threat elevated.

The risk is well distributed on the few options we have. Romney could certainly pull the Republican party Left, but the GOP could also lose both Houses in 2014 with an Obama 2nd term; Leftwing Media and Obama would own the national dialog denigrating the “uncooperative” House Republicans in a two-year campaign. An Obama victory would continue in a campaign momentum to rid DC of Congressional GOP control.

Despite our diverging expectations, there’s no indifference to Life.

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posted on 07/13/2012 8:56:13 PM PDT
by Gene Eric
(Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)

Rush us about getting the current regime out of office. Why is that so hard for so many fools on here to understand. We are totally screwed as a nation if Obama is reelected. Easy to understand! Please stop with the foolishness! I would love to have Palin, Newt or Rush as our candidate but it is not happening this year. I never had a chance to vote for any other candidates since Mitt was the only one left by the time our primary came around in Kentucky but that is not stopping me from the ultimate goal, saving our country from its biggest enemy maybe ever, Barack Obama!

re: “Rush seems to be simply saying that we have two choices for President, so if you don’t like either, you can choose the lesser of two evils.”

The irony is that any candidate - even your favorite - has evil/sin in them - this is true of even the most conservative one. All of us are sinners - all do evil from time to time.

The question is - do you vote for more evil or less evil?

Put another way - do you vote for more good or less good?

We vote for the most good and the less evil we can get.

Even if the candidate is only 1% less evil than the other one, you obviously vote for the less evil. It’s a no-brainer.

The problem with some is that they think that both Romney and Obama are equally evil. I think that way of thinking is so twisted that it is pointless to argue with those who conform to that idea. Especially the ones who think Romney is GREATER evil than Obama! Oy vey.

Then you should get on the phone, computer, and into your car and drive to as many Romney headquarters as possible to tell him that you have personally witnessed the testimony of many ‘fools’ who take God's word very seriously (I knew you in your mother's womb) and will not vote for a pro abortion candidate!...and then get on your knee's and ask God to forgive you slandering those who take him seriously.

The problem with some is that they think that both Romney and Obama are equally evil. I think that way of thinking is so twisted that it is pointless to argue with those who conform to that idea. Especially the ones who think Romney is GREATER evil than Obama! Oy vey.

America could have survived a tyrant like Obama and the MarxoFascists, we cannot survive the fools that vote them into power.

We are no longer a people or culture that can maintain liberty, much less regain what we have already lost.

I’ll let Adams speak again:

“a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty once lost is lost forever. When the People once surrender their share in the Legislature, and their Right of defending the Limitations upon the Government, and of resisting every Encroachment upon them, they can never regain it” - John Adams to Abigail Adams 1775

History bears this observation of Adams as fact.

We have already surrendered the limitations on government while our share in the legislature is rendered neuter by the Ruling Class who runs the show.

Are we truly this sanctimonious tho believe we are too great to fail and fall?

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