Dan Clough column: Victory would have given us real hope

TWO points behind the play-offs and Rovers really would have thrown their hat into the ring as realistic play-off candidates.

But yet again, we blew it, throwing away what would have been a solid win at Hillsborough against a side who should have been dead and buried.

There is much to learn for this young team.

Time and again we have counted the cost of late equalisers and lost leads.

We are still in the hunt, but it is much less likely than it would be had we held on for all three against Sheffield Wednesday.

With Forest unable to beat an egg and Ipswich also faltering, in-form Rovers – now eight games unbeaten – would have to have been considered one of the four sides most likely to clinch that elusive sixth place alongside Reading, Bournemouth and Brighton.

Realistically that group of four is now down to three, although while the mathematical possibility remains, as I said last week, my hope will continue.

Gary Bowyer quite rightly blasted the players for surrendering such a commanding lead.

He has been criticised for being negative on many occasions this season, but in this instance the players were being far too adventurous in the closing stages while hanging on to a slender lead.

As Paul Wheelock said in his match report yesterday, Rovers have thrown away victories on six occasions after taking the lead this calendar year.

That lack of necessary nous and nerve to see out a game is what will have cost us if we fail to sneak into the top six this season.

It needs to be addressed going forward.

All that being said, credit must go to Bowyer for the visible progress that has been made this term.

The win against QPR saw us surpass last season’s points total.

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With four games to go last time we were still embroiled in a battle at the wrong end of the table and still facing potential successive relegations.

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So to go from whingeing about that to whingeing about being four points off the play-offs is a sign of how far we have come in a short space of time and credit has to go to Bowyer for that.

He is building a young side and I strongly believe if we fail to make the grade this time around, the experience will serve us well and we will certainly be pushing for promotion next term if we can keep the squad together.

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Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue. I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID

Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue.
I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTIDmaltese blue n white

Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue. I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID

I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....

[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote:
Coulda, woulda, shoulda ![/p][/quote]I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....maltese blue n white

FCBurnley wrote…

Coulda, woulda, shoulda !

I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....

Score: -1

Super_Clarets says...5:07pm Tue 15 Apr 14

maltese blue n white wrote…

FCBurnley wrote…

Coulda, woulda, shoulda !

I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....

I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday. Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan). There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team. Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season? Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager. I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.

[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote:
Coulda, woulda, shoulda ![/p][/quote]I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....[/p][/quote]I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday.
Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan).
There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team.
Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season?
Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager.
I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.Super_Clarets

maltese blue n white wrote…

FCBurnley wrote…

Coulda, woulda, shoulda !

I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....

I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday. Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan). There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team. Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season? Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager. I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.

Score: -5

realisticrover says...5:11pm Tue 15 Apr 14

maltese blue n white wrote…

Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue. I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID

thanks Maltese, but...aren't you saying EXACTLY the same as Dan Clough?? :) Lets win all three games and see where that takes us first. Beyond that, another transfer window of getting shut of the squad players and maybe get some decent money for one of the big earners and we're not so bad. For right back, it would make sense to get another loan player, to help with the ffp. Adam Henley can also develop his defensive side, theres a great opportunity for him. When Marshall is fit, we have probably got one too many wide players, so maybe we have to let Taylor go as well as Judge? Williamson is good and he'll be on low wages. If we lost a Robbo or a Rhodes, question is, do we replace them or stick with what we have got? Gestede and Varney can be a good pairing. Likewise, can we go with Keane for the nets? It will be interesting, but one things for sure, we're actually progressing, for the first time since Venkys took over

[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote:
Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue.
I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID[/p][/quote]thanks Maltese, but...aren't you saying EXACTLY the same as Dan Clough?? :)
Lets win all three games and see where that takes us first. Beyond that, another transfer window of getting shut of the squad players and maybe get some decent money for one of the big earners and we're not so bad. For right back, it would make sense to get another loan player, to help with the ffp. Adam Henley can also develop his defensive side, theres a great opportunity for him. When Marshall is fit, we have probably got one too many wide players, so maybe we have to let Taylor go as well as Judge? Williamson is good and he'll be on low wages. If we lost a Robbo or a Rhodes, question is, do we replace them or stick with what we have got? Gestede and Varney can be a good pairing. Likewise, can we go with Keane for the nets? It will be interesting, but one things for sure, we're actually progressing, for the first time since Venkys took overrealisticrover

maltese blue n white wrote…

Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue. I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID

thanks Maltese, but...aren't you saying EXACTLY the same as Dan Clough?? :) Lets win all three games and see where that takes us first. Beyond that, another transfer window of getting shut of the squad players and maybe get some decent money for one of the big earners and we're not so bad. For right back, it would make sense to get another loan player, to help with the ffp. Adam Henley can also develop his defensive side, theres a great opportunity for him. When Marshall is fit, we have probably got one too many wide players, so maybe we have to let Taylor go as well as Judge? Williamson is good and he'll be on low wages. If we lost a Robbo or a Rhodes, question is, do we replace them or stick with what we have got? Gestede and Varney can be a good pairing. Likewise, can we go with Keane for the nets? It will be interesting, but one things for sure, we're actually progressing, for the first time since Venkys took over

Score: 4

HDRover says...5:20pm Tue 15 Apr 14

GB showed his inexperience late on in the game by not using his subs, only one brought on in the 92 min, should have used the others to break up play and waste a bit of time, also always used by more experienced managers to give out instructions. He needs to start learning quickly !

GB showed his inexperience late on in the game by not using
his subs, only one brought on in the 92 min, should have used
the others to break up play and waste a bit of time, also always
used by more experienced managers to give out instructions.
He needs to start learning quickly !HDRover

GB showed his inexperience late on in the game by not using his subs, only one brought on in the 92 min, should have used the others to break up play and waste a bit of time, also always used by more experienced managers to give out instructions. He needs to start learning quickly !

Score: 6

maltese blue n white says...5:32pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Super_Clarets wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

FCBurnley wrote…

Coulda, woulda, shoulda !

I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....

I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday. Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan). There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team. Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season? Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager. I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.

S_C I agree with you on most of what you say, Dick Van may well go to far greater things, but must disagree with your comment re Bowyer, I hope he is on a learning curve, managing a 1st team is far from being a youth coach, and I believe that's the reason behind the over cautious approach that has often been part of his matchplay this season. Only time will tell. Again... good luck next season....

[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote:
Coulda, woulda, shoulda ![/p][/quote]I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....[/p][/quote]I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday.
Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan).
There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team.
Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season?
Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager.
I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.[/p][/quote]S_C I agree with you on most of what you say, Dick Van may well go to far greater things, but must disagree with your comment re Bowyer, I hope he is on a learning curve, managing a 1st team is far from being a youth coach, and I believe that's the reason behind the over cautious approach that has often been part of his matchplay this season. Only time will tell. Again... good luck next season....maltese blue n white

Super_Clarets wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

FCBurnley wrote…

Coulda, woulda, shoulda !

I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....

I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday. Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan). There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team. Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season? Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager. I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.

S_C I agree with you on most of what you say, Dick Van may well go to far greater things, but must disagree with your comment re Bowyer, I hope he is on a learning curve, managing a 1st team is far from being a youth coach, and I believe that's the reason behind the over cautious approach that has often been part of his matchplay this season. Only time will tell. Again... good luck next season....

Score: 3

maltese blue n white says...5:44pm Tue 15 Apr 14

realisticrover wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue. I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID

thanks Maltese, but...aren't you saying EXACTLY the same as Dan Clough?? :) Lets win all three games and see where that takes us first. Beyond that, another transfer window of getting shut of the squad players and maybe get some decent money for one of the big earners and we're not so bad. For right back, it would make sense to get another loan player, to help with the ffp. Adam Henley can also develop his defensive side, theres a great opportunity for him. When Marshall is fit, we have probably got one too many wide players, so maybe we have to let Taylor go as well as Judge? Williamson is good and he'll be on low wages. If we lost a Robbo or a Rhodes, question is, do we replace them or stick with what we have got? Gestede and Varney can be a good pairing. Likewise, can we go with Keane for the nets? It will be interesting, but one things for sure, we're actually progressing, for the first time since Venkys took over

NO....I don't think so, DC is lamenting the playoff chance, whereas I believe it's a positive, it gives the team and manager time to gain confidence and really gel, Prem league the hardest in the world, and to stay there requires money, at this moment our owners are simply keeping the club afloat, to go up and stay there we will need cash from Venky's, and given the way they been ripped off by previous agents and managers I can see why they not too enthusiastic. Another yr with Bowyer at the helm, and a top 6 finish next yr might convince them to actually finance the venture properly, Prem league without real money behind a team is a one season wonder....

[quote][p][bold]realisticrover[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote:
Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue.
I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID[/p][/quote]thanks Maltese, but...aren't you saying EXACTLY the same as Dan Clough?? :)
Lets win all three games and see where that takes us first. Beyond that, another transfer window of getting shut of the squad players and maybe get some decent money for one of the big earners and we're not so bad. For right back, it would make sense to get another loan player, to help with the ffp. Adam Henley can also develop his defensive side, theres a great opportunity for him. When Marshall is fit, we have probably got one too many wide players, so maybe we have to let Taylor go as well as Judge? Williamson is good and he'll be on low wages. If we lost a Robbo or a Rhodes, question is, do we replace them or stick with what we have got? Gestede and Varney can be a good pairing. Likewise, can we go with Keane for the nets? It will be interesting, but one things for sure, we're actually progressing, for the first time since Venkys took over[/p][/quote]NO....I don't think so, DC is lamenting the playoff chance, whereas I believe it's a positive, it gives the team and manager time to gain confidence and really gel, Prem league the hardest in the world, and to stay there requires money, at this moment our owners are simply keeping the club afloat, to go up and stay there we will need cash from Venky's, and given the way they been ripped off by previous agents and managers I can see why they not too enthusiastic.
Another yr with Bowyer at the helm, and a top 6 finish next yr might convince them to actually finance the venture properly, Prem league without real money behind a team is a one season wonder....maltese blue n white

realisticrover wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue. I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID

thanks Maltese, but...aren't you saying EXACTLY the same as Dan Clough?? :) Lets win all three games and see where that takes us first. Beyond that, another transfer window of getting shut of the squad players and maybe get some decent money for one of the big earners and we're not so bad. For right back, it would make sense to get another loan player, to help with the ffp. Adam Henley can also develop his defensive side, theres a great opportunity for him. When Marshall is fit, we have probably got one too many wide players, so maybe we have to let Taylor go as well as Judge? Williamson is good and he'll be on low wages. If we lost a Robbo or a Rhodes, question is, do we replace them or stick with what we have got? Gestede and Varney can be a good pairing. Likewise, can we go with Keane for the nets? It will be interesting, but one things for sure, we're actually progressing, for the first time since Venkys took over

NO....I don't think so, DC is lamenting the playoff chance, whereas I believe it's a positive, it gives the team and manager time to gain confidence and really gel, Prem league the hardest in the world, and to stay there requires money, at this moment our owners are simply keeping the club afloat, to go up and stay there we will need cash from Venky's, and given the way they been ripped off by previous agents and managers I can see why they not too enthusiastic. Another yr with Bowyer at the helm, and a top 6 finish next yr might convince them to actually finance the venture properly, Prem league without real money behind a team is a one season wonder....

Score: 3

Captain Dreckley says...6:53pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Super_Clarets wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

FCBurnley wrote…

Coulda, woulda, shoulda !

I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....

I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday. Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan). There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team. Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season? Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager. I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.

Owen Coyle springs to mind.

[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote:
Coulda, woulda, shoulda ![/p][/quote]I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....[/p][/quote]I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday.
Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan).
There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team.
Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season?
Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager.
I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.[/p][/quote]Owen Coyle springs to mind.Captain Dreckley

Super_Clarets wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

FCBurnley wrote…

Coulda, woulda, shoulda !

I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....

I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday. Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan). There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team. Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season? Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager. I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.

Owen Coyle springs to mind.

Score: 0

maltese blue n white says...7:09pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Captain Dreckley wrote…

Super_Clarets wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

FCBurnley wrote…

Coulda, woulda, shoulda !

I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....

I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday. Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan). There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team. Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season? Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager. I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.

Owen Coyle springs to mind.

Sorry Cpt... but thought the Coyle remark a bit unnecessary, bit like kids saying "my dad's bigger than your's" just when was actually looking like a football thread.... .

[quote][p][bold]Captain Dreckley[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote:
Coulda, woulda, shoulda ![/p][/quote]I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....[/p][/quote]I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday.
Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan).
There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team.
Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season?
Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager.
I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.[/p][/quote]Owen Coyle springs to mind.[/p][/quote]Sorry Cpt... but thought the Coyle remark a bit unnecessary, bit like kids saying "my dad's bigger than your's"
just when was actually looking like a football thread.... .maltese blue n white

Captain Dreckley wrote…

Super_Clarets wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

FCBurnley wrote…

Coulda, woulda, shoulda !

I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....

I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday. Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan). There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team. Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season? Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager. I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.

Owen Coyle springs to mind.

Sorry Cpt... but thought the Coyle remark a bit unnecessary, bit like kids saying "my dad's bigger than your's" just when was actually looking like a football thread.... .

Score: -1

keanoutofrovers says...7:12pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Super_Clarets wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

FCBurnley wrote…

Coulda, woulda, shoulda !

I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....

I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday. Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan). There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team. Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season? Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager. I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.

You're right Dyche does come across a nice guy BUT if some big club comes in and offers him x4 what he is earning at present he would be daft to stay. The chances are Burnley will really struggle next year and he could therefore find himself back in the Championship in 12 months time. A club like Villa or Newcastle would be impossible to turn down.

[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote:
Coulda, woulda, shoulda ![/p][/quote]I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....[/p][/quote]I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday.
Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan).
There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team.
Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season?
Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager.
I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.[/p][/quote]You're right Dyche does come across a nice guy BUT if some big club comes in and offers him x4 what he is earning at present he would be daft to stay. The chances are Burnley will really struggle next year and he could therefore find himself back in the Championship in 12 months time. A club like Villa or Newcastle would be impossible to turn down.keanoutofrovers

Super_Clarets wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

FCBurnley wrote…

Coulda, woulda, shoulda !

I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....

I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday. Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan). There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team. Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season? Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager. I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.

You're right Dyche does come across a nice guy BUT if some big club comes in and offers him x4 what he is earning at present he would be daft to stay. The chances are Burnley will really struggle next year and he could therefore find himself back in the Championship in 12 months time. A club like Villa or Newcastle would be impossible to turn down.

Score: 2

maltese blue n white says...7:16pm Tue 15 Apr 14

keanoutofrovers wrote…

Super_Clarets wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

FCBurnley wrote…

Coulda, woulda, shoulda !

I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....

I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday. Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan). There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team. Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season? Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager. I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.

You're right Dyche does come across a nice guy BUT if some big club comes in and offers him x4 what he is earning at present he would be daft to stay. The chances are Burnley will really struggle next year and he could therefore find himself back in the Championship in 12 months time. A club like Villa or Newcastle would be impossible to turn down.

Fcuk me..... Have we really got a football thread going here????? it's magic....

[quote][p][bold]keanoutofrovers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote:
Coulda, woulda, shoulda ![/p][/quote]I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....[/p][/quote]I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday.
Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan).
There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team.
Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season?
Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager.
I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.[/p][/quote]You're right Dyche does come across a nice guy BUT if some big club comes in and offers him x4 what he is earning at present he would be daft to stay. The chances are Burnley will really struggle next year and he could therefore find himself back in the Championship in 12 months time. A club like Villa or Newcastle would be impossible to turn down.[/p][/quote]Fcuk me..... Have we really got a football thread going here????? it's magic....maltese blue n white

keanoutofrovers wrote…

Super_Clarets wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

FCBurnley wrote…

Coulda, woulda, shoulda !

I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....

I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday. Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan). There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team. Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season? Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager. I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.

You're right Dyche does come across a nice guy BUT if some big club comes in and offers him x4 what he is earning at present he would be daft to stay. The chances are Burnley will really struggle next year and he could therefore find himself back in the Championship in 12 months time. A club like Villa or Newcastle would be impossible to turn down.

Fcuk me..... Have we really got a football thread going here????? it's magic....

Score: 0

baldie says...7:41pm Tue 15 Apr 14

If Rovers win the last 4,they will make the play offs.That's my opinion. It's just whether they can win them.They just haven't left any room for error.

If Rovers win the last 4,they will make the play offs.That's my opinion.
It's just whether they can win them.They just haven't left any room for error.baldie

If Rovers win the last 4,they will make the play offs.That's my opinion. It's just whether they can win them.They just haven't left any room for error.

Score: 3

Not_A_Loon_From_Pune says...7:50pm Tue 15 Apr 14

baldie wrote…

If Rovers win the last 4,they will make the play offs.That's my opinion. It's just whether they can win them.They just haven't left any room for error.

That would require them to win 4 in a row when all season we haven't managed 3 in a row. The signs are there that the team is starting to gel but I think we will have to wait until next year now.

[quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote:
If Rovers win the last 4,they will make the play offs.That's my opinion.
It's just whether they can win them.They just haven't left any room for error.[/p][/quote]That would require them to win 4 in a row when all season we haven't managed 3 in a row. The signs are there that the team is starting to gel but I think we will have to wait until next year now.Not_A_Loon_From_Pune

baldie wrote…

If Rovers win the last 4,they will make the play offs.That's my opinion. It's just whether they can win them.They just haven't left any room for error.

That would require them to win 4 in a row when all season we haven't managed 3 in a row. The signs are there that the team is starting to gel but I think we will have to wait until next year now.

Score: 4

DanBlackburn says...7:54pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Young team? None sense. They are an average age team. Why is this pedalled out continually.

Young team? None sense. They are an average age team. Why is this pedalled out continually.DanBlackburn

Young team? None sense. They are an average age team. Why is this pedalled out continually.

Score: 5

maltese blue n white says...7:59pm Tue 15 Apr 14

baldie wrote…

If Rovers win the last 4,they will make the play offs.That's my opinion. It's just whether they can win them.They just haven't left any room for error.

yes it's mathematically possible, and winning the playoffs is a remote but achievable possibility, but "what then" a season in the limelight followed by demotion would probably see Venky's walk away, I am in no way a venky lover, but without any other buyer in sight they are better than nothing, Another season in in this league will only reinforce the stability that Bowyer has brought to the club, promotion next season, along with stability might attract interest outside of Venky's, or even convince them to put some money forward. But I say again promotion now would be suicidal.... RTID

[quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote:
If Rovers win the last 4,they will make the play offs.That's my opinion.
It's just whether they can win them.They just haven't left any room for error.[/p][/quote]yes it's mathematically possible, and winning the playoffs is a remote but achievable possibility, but "what then" a season in the limelight followed by demotion would probably see Venky's walk away, I am in no way a venky lover, but without any other buyer in sight they are better than nothing, Another season in in this league will only reinforce the stability that Bowyer has brought to the club, promotion next season, along with stability might attract interest outside of Venky's, or even convince them to put some money forward. But I say again promotion now would be suicidal.... RTIDmaltese blue n white

baldie wrote…

If Rovers win the last 4,they will make the play offs.That's my opinion. It's just whether they can win them.They just haven't left any room for error.

yes it's mathematically possible, and winning the playoffs is a remote but achievable possibility, but "what then" a season in the limelight followed by demotion would probably see Venky's walk away, I am in no way a venky lover, but without any other buyer in sight they are better than nothing, Another season in in this league will only reinforce the stability that Bowyer has brought to the club, promotion next season, along with stability might attract interest outside of Venky's, or even convince them to put some money forward. But I say again promotion now would be suicidal.... RTID

Score: -1

Angry From Accrington says...8:06pm Tue 15 Apr 14

maltese blue n white wrote…

Captain Dreckley wrote…

Super_Clarets wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

FCBurnley wrote…

Coulda, woulda, shoulda !

I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....

I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday. Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan). There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team. Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season? Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager. I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.

Owen Coyle springs to mind.

Sorry Cpt... but thought the Coyle remark a bit unnecessary, bit like kids saying "my dad's bigger than your's" just when was actually looking like a football thread.... .

The Owen Coyle remark is absolutely pertinent. Like Dyche, he took a modestly talented Burnley side into the Premiership and was immediately hailed as the new Mourinho. Inevitably he crashed and burned given the challenge of a proper club with a proper infrastructure. If Dyche moves on, he too, will find himself like a new little boy at big school. Some will say that he has done a remarkable job at Burnley this season but frankly, given the exceptionally low standard, any team with Ings and Vokes up front would have bee promoted by now.

[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Captain Dreckley[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote:
Coulda, woulda, shoulda ![/p][/quote]I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....[/p][/quote]I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday.
Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan).
There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team.
Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season?
Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager.
I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.[/p][/quote]Owen Coyle springs to mind.[/p][/quote]Sorry Cpt... but thought the Coyle remark a bit unnecessary, bit like kids saying "my dad's bigger than your's"
just when was actually looking like a football thread.... .[/p][/quote]The Owen Coyle remark is absolutely pertinent. Like Dyche, he took a modestly talented Burnley side into the Premiership and was immediately hailed as the new Mourinho. Inevitably he crashed and burned given the challenge of a proper club with a proper infrastructure.
If Dyche moves on, he too, will find himself like a new little boy at big school. Some will say that he has done a remarkable job at Burnley this season but frankly, given the exceptionally low standard, any team with Ings and Vokes up front would have bee promoted by now.Angry From Accrington

maltese blue n white wrote…

Captain Dreckley wrote…

Super_Clarets wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

FCBurnley wrote…

Coulda, woulda, shoulda !

I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....

I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday. Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan). There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team. Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season? Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager. I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.

Owen Coyle springs to mind.

Sorry Cpt... but thought the Coyle remark a bit unnecessary, bit like kids saying "my dad's bigger than your's" just when was actually looking like a football thread.... .

The Owen Coyle remark is absolutely pertinent. Like Dyche, he took a modestly talented Burnley side into the Premiership and was immediately hailed as the new Mourinho. Inevitably he crashed and burned given the challenge of a proper club with a proper infrastructure. If Dyche moves on, he too, will find himself like a new little boy at big school. Some will say that he has done a remarkable job at Burnley this season but frankly, given the exceptionally low standard, any team with Ings and Vokes up front would have bee promoted by now.

Score: 0

baldie says...8:15pm Tue 15 Apr 14

maltese blue n white wrote…

baldie wrote…

If Rovers win the last 4,they will make the play offs.That's my opinion. It's just whether they can win them.They just haven't left any room for error.

yes it's mathematically possible, and winning the playoffs is a remote but achievable possibility, but "what then" a season in the limelight followed by demotion would probably see Venky's walk away, I am in no way a venky lover, but without any other buyer in sight they are better than nothing, Another season in in this league will only reinforce the stability that Bowyer has brought to the club, promotion next season, along with stability might attract interest outside of Venky's, or even convince them to put some money forward. But I say again promotion now would be suicidal.... RTID

Hadn't thought that far in front to be honest. I'm just hoping we beat Yeovil and get 4 other handy results elsewhere.

[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote:
If Rovers win the last 4,they will make the play offs.That's my opinion.
It's just whether they can win them.They just haven't left any room for error.[/p][/quote]yes it's mathematically possible, and winning the playoffs is a remote but achievable possibility, but "what then" a season in the limelight followed by demotion would probably see Venky's walk away, I am in no way a venky lover, but without any other buyer in sight they are better than nothing, Another season in in this league will only reinforce the stability that Bowyer has brought to the club, promotion next season, along with stability might attract interest outside of Venky's, or even convince them to put some money forward. But I say again promotion now would be suicidal.... RTID[/p][/quote]Hadn't thought that far in front to be honest.
I'm just hoping we beat Yeovil and get 4 other handy results elsewhere.baldie

maltese blue n white wrote…

baldie wrote…

If Rovers win the last 4,they will make the play offs.That's my opinion. It's just whether they can win them.They just haven't left any room for error.

yes it's mathematically possible, and winning the playoffs is a remote but achievable possibility, but "what then" a season in the limelight followed by demotion would probably see Venky's walk away, I am in no way a venky lover, but without any other buyer in sight they are better than nothing, Another season in in this league will only reinforce the stability that Bowyer has brought to the club, promotion next season, along with stability might attract interest outside of Venky's, or even convince them to put some money forward. But I say again promotion now would be suicidal.... RTID

Hadn't thought that far in front to be honest. I'm just hoping we beat Yeovil and get 4 other handy results elsewhere.

Score: 2

maltese blue n white says...8:19pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Angry From Accrington wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

Captain Dreckley wrote…

Super_Clarets wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

FCBurnley wrote…

Coulda, woulda, shoulda !

I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....

I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday. Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan). There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team. Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season? Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager. I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.

Owen Coyle springs to mind.

Sorry Cpt... but thought the Coyle remark a bit unnecessary, bit like kids saying "my dad's bigger than your's" just when was actually looking like a football thread.... .

The Owen Coyle remark is absolutely pertinent. Like Dyche, he took a modestly talented Burnley side into the Premiership and was immediately hailed as the new Mourinho. Inevitably he crashed and burned given the challenge of a proper club with a proper infrastructure. If Dyche moves on, he too, will find himself like a new little boy at big school. Some will say that he has done a remarkable job at Burnley this season but frankly, given the exceptionally low standard, any team with Ings and Vokes up front would have bee promoted by now.

Only time will prove the veracity of your opinions, I obviously misunderstood your comment, and took it to be a churlish dig at the nieghbours down the road..... and for that i offer my apologies, but I cannot take anything away from Dick Van this season, a small squad and even smaller budget, " the guy's done well" ....... respect where respect is due...

[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Captain Dreckley[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote:
Coulda, woulda, shoulda ![/p][/quote]I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....[/p][/quote]I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday.
Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan).
There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team.
Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season?
Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager.
I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.[/p][/quote]Owen Coyle springs to mind.[/p][/quote]Sorry Cpt... but thought the Coyle remark a bit unnecessary, bit like kids saying "my dad's bigger than your's"
just when was actually looking like a football thread.... .[/p][/quote]The Owen Coyle remark is absolutely pertinent. Like Dyche, he took a modestly talented Burnley side into the Premiership and was immediately hailed as the new Mourinho. Inevitably he crashed and burned given the challenge of a proper club with a proper infrastructure.
If Dyche moves on, he too, will find himself like a new little boy at big school. Some will say that he has done a remarkable job at Burnley this season but frankly, given the exceptionally low standard, any team with Ings and Vokes up front would have bee promoted by now.[/p][/quote]Only time will prove the veracity of your opinions, I obviously misunderstood your comment, and took it to be a churlish dig at the nieghbours down the road..... and for that i offer my apologies, but I cannot take anything away from Dick Van this season, a small squad and even smaller budget, " the guy's done well" ....... respect where respect is due...maltese blue n white

Angry From Accrington wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

Captain Dreckley wrote…

Super_Clarets wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

FCBurnley wrote…

Coulda, woulda, shoulda !

I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....

I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday. Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan). There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team. Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season? Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager. I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.

Owen Coyle springs to mind.

Sorry Cpt... but thought the Coyle remark a bit unnecessary, bit like kids saying "my dad's bigger than your's" just when was actually looking like a football thread.... .

The Owen Coyle remark is absolutely pertinent. Like Dyche, he took a modestly talented Burnley side into the Premiership and was immediately hailed as the new Mourinho. Inevitably he crashed and burned given the challenge of a proper club with a proper infrastructure. If Dyche moves on, he too, will find himself like a new little boy at big school. Some will say that he has done a remarkable job at Burnley this season but frankly, given the exceptionally low standard, any team with Ings and Vokes up front would have bee promoted by now.

Only time will prove the veracity of your opinions, I obviously misunderstood your comment, and took it to be a churlish dig at the nieghbours down the road..... and for that i offer my apologies, but I cannot take anything away from Dick Van this season, a small squad and even smaller budget, " the guy's done well" ....... respect where respect is due...

Score: 1

maltese blue n white says...8:22pm Tue 15 Apr 14

maltese blue n white wrote…

Angry From Accrington wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

Captain Dreckley wrote…

Super_Clarets wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

FCBurnley wrote…

Coulda, woulda, shoulda !

I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....

I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday. Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan). There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team. Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season? Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager. I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.

Owen Coyle springs to mind.

Sorry Cpt... but thought the Coyle remark a bit unnecessary, bit like kids saying "my dad's bigger than your's" just when was actually looking like a football thread.... .

The Owen Coyle remark is absolutely pertinent. Like Dyche, he took a modestly talented Burnley side into the Premiership and was immediately hailed as the new Mourinho. Inevitably he crashed and burned given the challenge of a proper club with a proper infrastructure. If Dyche moves on, he too, will find himself like a new little boy at big school. Some will say that he has done a remarkable job at Burnley this season but frankly, given the exceptionally low standard, any team with Ings and Vokes up front would have bee promoted by now.

Only time will prove the veracity of your opinions, I obviously misunderstood your comment, and took it to be a churlish dig at the nieghbours down the road..... and for that i offer my apologies, but I cannot take anything away from Dick Van this season, a small squad and even smaller budget, " the guy's done well" ....... respect where respect is due...

sorry..... above comment was for Cpt Drecklely..... but still stands for AFA...

[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Captain Dreckley[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote:
Coulda, woulda, shoulda ![/p][/quote]I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....[/p][/quote]I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday.
Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan).
There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team.
Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season?
Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager.
I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.[/p][/quote]Owen Coyle springs to mind.[/p][/quote]Sorry Cpt... but thought the Coyle remark a bit unnecessary, bit like kids saying "my dad's bigger than your's"
just when was actually looking like a football thread.... .[/p][/quote]The Owen Coyle remark is absolutely pertinent. Like Dyche, he took a modestly talented Burnley side into the Premiership and was immediately hailed as the new Mourinho. Inevitably he crashed and burned given the challenge of a proper club with a proper infrastructure.
If Dyche moves on, he too, will find himself like a new little boy at big school. Some will say that he has done a remarkable job at Burnley this season but frankly, given the exceptionally low standard, any team with Ings and Vokes up front would have bee promoted by now.[/p][/quote]Only time will prove the veracity of your opinions, I obviously misunderstood your comment, and took it to be a churlish dig at the nieghbours down the road..... and for that i offer my apologies, but I cannot take anything away from Dick Van this season, a small squad and even smaller budget, " the guy's done well" ....... respect where respect is due...[/p][/quote]sorry..... above comment was for Cpt Drecklely..... but still stands for AFA...maltese blue n white

maltese blue n white wrote…

Angry From Accrington wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

Captain Dreckley wrote…

Super_Clarets wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

FCBurnley wrote…

Coulda, woulda, shoulda !

I'm not going to slag off Burnley's achievements this season, no real football fan could, But, Given what Dick Van has achieved with no money this season, I would guess that better opportunities will be offered, it then comes down to loyalty, and there's v little of that in today's football. So yes, Burnley will go up, But I would guess without the manager that brought cohesion to your team this season,then next year you gonna struggle, as I believe some lower end prem clubs will already be watching him. newly promoted, possible loss of manager? You'll need lots of luck, and I wish you that, because on this seasons performance you deserve the chance....

I'd agree that should we go up and then lose Dyche part way into the season we would certainly struggle. However I don't necessarily think he would want to leave to take over at a lower end Premier League club. You can talk about money and the lack of loyalty in football but Dyche doesn't come across as someone who's looking for one big payday. Dyche has proved himself to be a top manager this season, that can never be taken away, but should he take Burnley up and keep us in the Premier League then he would rightly be considered the best young English manager of a generation. I think he will manage at the very top in time but he's more likely to do it the right way and not be tempted to jump ship too early and do a Coyle (look what happened to him since he left us.... Relegated with Bolton, sacked by Bolton, appointed Wigan manager, sacked by Wigan). There is a lot to be said for building a team and that's what Dyche is doing. He may not have brought those players into the club but he has certainly brought the best out of them and moulded them into a team. Did you see us beating you at Ewood Park this season? Given the finances to retain our current squad and bring in a few of his own players I think we'd stand a decent chance of survival. Obviously one or two of you will find that far fetched but at the same time you'd give your right arm to be where we are, potentially heading into the Premier League with Sean Dyche as manager. I don't rate Bowyer by the way. I think he's clueless.

Owen Coyle springs to mind.

Sorry Cpt... but thought the Coyle remark a bit unnecessary, bit like kids saying "my dad's bigger than your's" just when was actually looking like a football thread.... .

The Owen Coyle remark is absolutely pertinent. Like Dyche, he took a modestly talented Burnley side into the Premiership and was immediately hailed as the new Mourinho. Inevitably he crashed and burned given the challenge of a proper club with a proper infrastructure. If Dyche moves on, he too, will find himself like a new little boy at big school. Some will say that he has done a remarkable job at Burnley this season but frankly, given the exceptionally low standard, any team with Ings and Vokes up front would have bee promoted by now.

Only time will prove the veracity of your opinions, I obviously misunderstood your comment, and took it to be a churlish dig at the nieghbours down the road..... and for that i offer my apologies, but I cannot take anything away from Dick Van this season, a small squad and even smaller budget, " the guy's done well" ....... respect where respect is due...

sorry..... above comment was for Cpt Drecklely..... but still stands for AFA...

Score: 0

dallydally says...8:52pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Play offs. I'm a Rovers fan but we have no chance

Play offs. I'm a Rovers fan but we have no chancedallydally

Play offs. I'm a Rovers fan but we have no chance

Score: 1

Steven Seagull says...10:41pm Tue 15 Apr 14

HDRover wrote…

GB showed his inexperience late on in the game by not using his subs, only one brought on in the 92 min, should have used the others to break up play and waste a bit of time, also always used by more experienced managers to give out instructions. He needs to start learning quickly !

So you think Bowyer hold be wasting time to try and win Matches? How about playing football that's good enough to win matches in 90 minutes. Typical deluded no-dad desperation tactics. Clueless, classless mid-table championship clowns.

[quote][p][bold]HDRover[/bold] wrote:
GB showed his inexperience late on in the game by not using
his subs, only one brought on in the 92 min, should have used
the others to break up play and waste a bit of time, also always
used by more experienced managers to give out instructions.
He needs to start learning quickly ![/p][/quote]So you think Bowyer hold be wasting time to try and win Matches? How about playing football that's good enough to win matches in 90 minutes.
Typical deluded no-dad desperation tactics. Clueless, classless mid-table championship clowns.Steven Seagull

HDRover wrote…

GB showed his inexperience late on in the game by not using his subs, only one brought on in the 92 min, should have used the others to break up play and waste a bit of time, also always used by more experienced managers to give out instructions. He needs to start learning quickly !

So you think Bowyer hold be wasting time to try and win Matches? How about playing football that's good enough to win matches in 90 minutes. Typical deluded no-dad desperation tactics. Clueless, classless mid-table championship clowns.

Score: -5

dangerous dave says...7:07am Wed 16 Apr 14

HDRover wrote…

GB showed his inexperience late on in the game by not using his subs, only one brought on in the 92 min, should have used the others to break up play and waste a bit of time, also always used by more experienced managers to give out instructions. He needs to start learning quickly !

42 ganes played 15 won by god gb 's a quick learner!! Out with the cowboys and indians

[quote][p][bold]HDRover[/bold] wrote:
GB showed his inexperience late on in the game by not using
his subs, only one brought on in the 92 min, should have used
the others to break up play and waste a bit of time, also always
used by more experienced managers to give out instructions.
He needs to start learning quickly ![/p][/quote]42 ganes played 15 won by god gb 's a quick learner!!
Out with the cowboys and indiansdangerous dave

HDRover wrote…

GB showed his inexperience late on in the game by not using his subs, only one brought on in the 92 min, should have used the others to break up play and waste a bit of time, also always used by more experienced managers to give out instructions. He needs to start learning quickly !

42 ganes played 15 won by god gb 's a quick learner!! Out with the cowboys and indians

Score: 0

owd nick says...9:29am Wed 16 Apr 14

Only just had a chance to read this article a day late :-) Good article and some sensible comments.

Only just had a chance to read this article a day late :-)
Good article and some sensible comments.owd nick

Only just had a chance to read this article a day late :-) Good article and some sensible comments.

Score: 2

Riverside 7 says...9:33am Wed 16 Apr 14

maltese blue n white wrote…

Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue. I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID

Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim. Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home). Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc. Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points. We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season. If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation. Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship. I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.

[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote:
Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue.
I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID[/p][/quote]Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim.
Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home).
Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc.
Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points.
We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season.
If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation.
Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship.
I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.Riverside 7

maltese blue n white wrote…

Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue. I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID

Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim. Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home). Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc. Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points. We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season. If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation. Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship. I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.

Score: 3

Super_Clarets says...9:54am Wed 16 Apr 14

Riverside 7 wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue. I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID

Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim. Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home). Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc. Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points. We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season. If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation. Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship. I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.

"this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship"..... You forgot about Burnley. The team that's lost the fewest games in the Championship this season. The team that's conceded the fewest goals in the Championship this season. The team that's spent only 12 games outside of the top two since the season began. The Team that's spent only £500k and brought in only two players. The team that beat you at Ewood Park. The team that's currently in pole position for automatic promotion and a £120million Premier League jackpot. Surely the achievements of Burnley this season put us in the same class... perhaps to all except jealous and bitter Blackburn Rovers fans.

[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote:
Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue.
I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID[/p][/quote]Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim.
Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home).
Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc.
Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points.
We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season.
If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation.
Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship.
I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.[/p][/quote]"this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship".....
You forgot about Burnley.
The team that's lost the fewest games in the Championship this season.
The team that's conceded the fewest goals in the Championship this season.
The team that's spent only 12 games outside of the top two since the season began.
The Team that's spent only £500k and brought in only two players.
The team that beat you at Ewood Park.
The team that's currently in pole position for automatic promotion and a £120million Premier League jackpot.
Surely the achievements of Burnley this season put us in the same class... perhaps to all except jealous and bitter Blackburn Rovers fans.Super_Clarets

Riverside 7 wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue. I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID

Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim. Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home). Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc. Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points. We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season. If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation. Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship. I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.

"this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship"..... You forgot about Burnley. The team that's lost the fewest games in the Championship this season. The team that's conceded the fewest goals in the Championship this season. The team that's spent only 12 games outside of the top two since the season began. The Team that's spent only £500k and brought in only two players. The team that beat you at Ewood Park. The team that's currently in pole position for automatic promotion and a £120million Premier League jackpot. Surely the achievements of Burnley this season put us in the same class... perhaps to all except jealous and bitter Blackburn Rovers fans.

Score: -2

DanBlackburn says...1:26pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Riverside 7 wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue. I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID

Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim. Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home). Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc. Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points. We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season. If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation. Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship. I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.

I agree Riverside. The championship has been poor this year, we are still in with a very remote chance of the playoffs and yet we have 15 wins in 42 matches. Crazy. Its very frustrating knowing that it could easily have been very different. If only the vile incompetent Venkys would have listened to the fans and appointed a manager with experience. Alongside McClaren there is also Rosler at Wigan, who were going nowhere until he arrived.

[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote:
Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue.
I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID[/p][/quote]Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim.
Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home).
Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc.
Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points.
We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season.
If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation.
Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship.
I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.[/p][/quote]I agree Riverside. The championship has been poor this year, we are still in with a very remote chance of the playoffs and yet we have 15 wins in 42 matches. Crazy. Its very frustrating knowing that it could easily have been very different.
If only the vile incompetent Venkys would have listened to the fans and appointed a manager with experience. Alongside McClaren there is also Rosler at Wigan, who were going nowhere until he arrived.DanBlackburn

Riverside 7 wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue. I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID

Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim. Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home). Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc. Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points. We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season. If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation. Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship. I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.

I agree Riverside. The championship has been poor this year, we are still in with a very remote chance of the playoffs and yet we have 15 wins in 42 matches. Crazy. Its very frustrating knowing that it could easily have been very different. If only the vile incompetent Venkys would have listened to the fans and appointed a manager with experience. Alongside McClaren there is also Rosler at Wigan, who were going nowhere until he arrived.

Score: 5

Riverside 7 says...1:53pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Super_Clarets wrote…

Riverside 7 wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue. I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID

Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim. Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home). Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc. Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points. We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season. If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation. Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship. I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.

"this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship"..... You forgot about Burnley. The team that's lost the fewest games in the Championship this season. The team that's conceded the fewest goals in the Championship this season. The team that's spent only 12 games outside of the top two since the season began. The Team that's spent only £500k and brought in only two players. The team that beat you at Ewood Park. The team that's currently in pole position for automatic promotion and a £120million Premier League jackpot. Surely the achievements of Burnley this season put us in the same class... perhaps to all except jealous and bitter Blackburn Rovers fans.

You forgot to add ;- The team who will be odds-on favourites to be relegated next season (assuming you get promoted that is). Dyche has done a fantastic job at Burnley and due to the lack of resources he deserves to be the Championship's manager of the year. An outstanding team - no I don't think so.

[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote:
Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue.
I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID[/p][/quote]Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim.
Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home).
Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc.
Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points.
We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season.
If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation.
Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship.
I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.[/p][/quote]"this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship".....
You forgot about Burnley.
The team that's lost the fewest games in the Championship this season.
The team that's conceded the fewest goals in the Championship this season.
The team that's spent only 12 games outside of the top two since the season began.
The Team that's spent only £500k and brought in only two players.
The team that beat you at Ewood Park.
The team that's currently in pole position for automatic promotion and a £120million Premier League jackpot.
Surely the achievements of Burnley this season put us in the same class... perhaps to all except jealous and bitter Blackburn Rovers fans.[/p][/quote]You forgot to add ;-
The team who will be odds-on favourites to be relegated next season (assuming you get promoted that is).
Dyche has done a fantastic job at Burnley and due to the lack of resources he deserves to be the Championship's manager of the year.
An outstanding team - no I don't think so.Riverside 7

Super_Clarets wrote…

Riverside 7 wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue. I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID

Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim. Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home). Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc. Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points. We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season. If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation. Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship. I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.

"this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship"..... You forgot about Burnley. The team that's lost the fewest games in the Championship this season. The team that's conceded the fewest goals in the Championship this season. The team that's spent only 12 games outside of the top two since the season began. The Team that's spent only £500k and brought in only two players. The team that beat you at Ewood Park. The team that's currently in pole position for automatic promotion and a £120million Premier League jackpot. Surely the achievements of Burnley this season put us in the same class... perhaps to all except jealous and bitter Blackburn Rovers fans.

You forgot to add ;- The team who will be odds-on favourites to be relegated next season (assuming you get promoted that is). Dyche has done a fantastic job at Burnley and due to the lack of resources he deserves to be the Championship's manager of the year. An outstanding team - no I don't think so.

Score: 2

hasslem hasslem says...2:22pm Wed 16 Apr 14

DanBlackburn wrote…

Riverside 7 wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue. I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID

Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim. Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home). Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc. Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points. We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season. If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation. Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship. I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.

I agree Riverside. The championship has been poor this year, we are still in with a very remote chance of the playoffs and yet we have 15 wins in 42 matches. Crazy. Its very frustrating knowing that it could easily have been very different. If only the vile incompetent Venkys would have listened to the fans and appointed a manager with experience. Alongside McClaren there is also Rosler at Wigan, who were going nowhere until he arrived.

and rosler has about as much experience as bowyer!

[quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote:
Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue.
I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID[/p][/quote]Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim.
Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home).
Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc.
Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points.
We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season.
If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation.
Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship.
I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.[/p][/quote]I agree Riverside. The championship has been poor this year, we are still in with a very remote chance of the playoffs and yet we have 15 wins in 42 matches. Crazy. Its very frustrating knowing that it could easily have been very different.
If only the vile incompetent Venkys would have listened to the fans and appointed a manager with experience. Alongside McClaren there is also Rosler at Wigan, who were going nowhere until he arrived.[/p][/quote]and rosler has about as much experience as bowyer!hasslem hasslem

DanBlackburn wrote…

Riverside 7 wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue. I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID

Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim. Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home). Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc. Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points. We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season. If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation. Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship. I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.

I agree Riverside. The championship has been poor this year, we are still in with a very remote chance of the playoffs and yet we have 15 wins in 42 matches. Crazy. Its very frustrating knowing that it could easily have been very different. If only the vile incompetent Venkys would have listened to the fans and appointed a manager with experience. Alongside McClaren there is also Rosler at Wigan, who were going nowhere until he arrived.

and rosler has about as much experience as bowyer!

Score: 0

hasslem hasslem says...2:25pm Wed 16 Apr 14

DanBlackburn wrote…

Riverside 7 wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue. I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID

Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim. Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home). Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc. Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points. We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season. If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation. Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship. I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.

I agree Riverside. The championship has been poor this year, we are still in with a very remote chance of the playoffs and yet we have 15 wins in 42 matches. Crazy. Its very frustrating knowing that it could easily have been very different. If only the vile incompetent Venkys would have listened to the fans and appointed a manager with experience. Alongside McClaren there is also Rosler at Wigan, who were going nowhere until he arrived.

oh yeah, when rovers were scouting around for a manager after lardy - mclaren was mentioned in dispatches and there was derision from all fans - i got mocked on here for saying how well he had done at boro. perhaps we should have gone for someone who has had plenty of championship experience, had got a team promoted and could walk to brockhall - owen coyle.....ah yeah, that wouldn't have gone down too well either.

[quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote:
Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue.
I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID[/p][/quote]Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim.
Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home).
Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc.
Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points.
We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season.
If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation.
Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship.
I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.[/p][/quote]I agree Riverside. The championship has been poor this year, we are still in with a very remote chance of the playoffs and yet we have 15 wins in 42 matches. Crazy. Its very frustrating knowing that it could easily have been very different.
If only the vile incompetent Venkys would have listened to the fans and appointed a manager with experience. Alongside McClaren there is also Rosler at Wigan, who were going nowhere until he arrived.[/p][/quote]oh yeah, when rovers were scouting around for a manager after lardy - mclaren was mentioned in dispatches and there was derision from all fans - i got mocked on here for saying how well he had done at boro.
perhaps we should have gone for someone who has had plenty of championship experience, had got a team promoted and could walk to brockhall - owen coyle.....ah yeah, that wouldn't have gone down too well either.hasslem hasslem

DanBlackburn wrote…

Riverside 7 wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue. I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID

Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim. Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home). Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc. Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points. We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season. If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation. Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship. I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.

I agree Riverside. The championship has been poor this year, we are still in with a very remote chance of the playoffs and yet we have 15 wins in 42 matches. Crazy. Its very frustrating knowing that it could easily have been very different. If only the vile incompetent Venkys would have listened to the fans and appointed a manager with experience. Alongside McClaren there is also Rosler at Wigan, who were going nowhere until he arrived.

oh yeah, when rovers were scouting around for a manager after lardy - mclaren was mentioned in dispatches and there was derision from all fans - i got mocked on here for saying how well he had done at boro. perhaps we should have gone for someone who has had plenty of championship experience, had got a team promoted and could walk to brockhall - owen coyle.....ah yeah, that wouldn't have gone down too well either.

Score: -3

Super_Clarets says...3:31pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Riverside 7 wrote…

Super_Clarets wrote…

Riverside 7 wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue. I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID

Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim. Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home). Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc. Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points. We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season. If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation. Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship. I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.

"this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship"..... You forgot about Burnley. The team that's lost the fewest games in the Championship this season. The team that's conceded the fewest goals in the Championship this season. The team that's spent only 12 games outside of the top two since the season began. The Team that's spent only £500k and brought in only two players. The team that beat you at Ewood Park. The team that's currently in pole position for automatic promotion and a £120million Premier League jackpot. Surely the achievements of Burnley this season put us in the same class... perhaps to all except jealous and bitter Blackburn Rovers fans.

You forgot to add ;- The team who will be odds-on favourites to be relegated next season (assuming you get promoted that is). Dyche has done a fantastic job at Burnley and due to the lack of resources he deserves to be the Championship's manager of the year. An outstanding team - no I don't think so.

We were one of the favourites to be relegated this season though, weren't we Mungo... And look what happened. Certainly an outstanding team when compared with the mid-table also-rans of Blackburn Rovers, barring perhaps Rhodes I wouldn't swap any of our first team for any of yours. Superior from top to bottom. That's why we're in second place and your in..... TENTH??? Shocking.

[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote:
Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue.
I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID[/p][/quote]Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim.
Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home).
Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc.
Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points.
We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season.
If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation.
Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship.
I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.[/p][/quote]"this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship".....
You forgot about Burnley.
The team that's lost the fewest games in the Championship this season.
The team that's conceded the fewest goals in the Championship this season.
The team that's spent only 12 games outside of the top two since the season began.
The Team that's spent only £500k and brought in only two players.
The team that beat you at Ewood Park.
The team that's currently in pole position for automatic promotion and a £120million Premier League jackpot.
Surely the achievements of Burnley this season put us in the same class... perhaps to all except jealous and bitter Blackburn Rovers fans.[/p][/quote]You forgot to add ;-
The team who will be odds-on favourites to be relegated next season (assuming you get promoted that is).
Dyche has done a fantastic job at Burnley and due to the lack of resources he deserves to be the Championship's manager of the year.
An outstanding team - no I don't think so.[/p][/quote]We were one of the favourites to be relegated this season though, weren't we Mungo...
And look what happened.
Certainly an outstanding team when compared with the mid-table also-rans of Blackburn Rovers, barring perhaps Rhodes I wouldn't swap any of our first team for any of yours. Superior from top to bottom. That's why we're in second place and your in..... TENTH???
Shocking.Super_Clarets

Riverside 7 wrote…

Super_Clarets wrote…

Riverside 7 wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue. I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID

Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim. Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home). Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc. Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points. We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season. If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation. Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship. I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.

"this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship"..... You forgot about Burnley. The team that's lost the fewest games in the Championship this season. The team that's conceded the fewest goals in the Championship this season. The team that's spent only 12 games outside of the top two since the season began. The Team that's spent only £500k and brought in only two players. The team that beat you at Ewood Park. The team that's currently in pole position for automatic promotion and a £120million Premier League jackpot. Surely the achievements of Burnley this season put us in the same class... perhaps to all except jealous and bitter Blackburn Rovers fans.

You forgot to add ;- The team who will be odds-on favourites to be relegated next season (assuming you get promoted that is). Dyche has done a fantastic job at Burnley and due to the lack of resources he deserves to be the Championship's manager of the year. An outstanding team - no I don't think so.

We were one of the favourites to be relegated this season though, weren't we Mungo... And look what happened. Certainly an outstanding team when compared with the mid-table also-rans of Blackburn Rovers, barring perhaps Rhodes I wouldn't swap any of our first team for any of yours. Superior from top to bottom. That's why we're in second place and your in..... TENTH??? Shocking.

Score: -2

realisticrover says...3:51pm Wed 16 Apr 14

hasslem hasslem wrote…

DanBlackburn wrote…

Riverside 7 wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue. I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID

Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim. Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home). Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc. Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points. We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season. If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation. Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship. I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.

I agree Riverside. The championship has been poor this year, we are still in with a very remote chance of the playoffs and yet we have 15 wins in 42 matches. Crazy. Its very frustrating knowing that it could easily have been very different. If only the vile incompetent Venkys would have listened to the fans and appointed a manager with experience. Alongside McClaren there is also Rosler at Wigan, who were going nowhere until he arrived.

oh yeah, when rovers were scouting around for a manager after lardy - mclaren was mentioned in dispatches and there was derision from all fans - i got mocked on here for saying how well he had done at boro. perhaps we should have gone for someone who has had plenty of championship experience, had got a team promoted and could walk to brockhall - owen coyle.....ah yeah, that wouldn't have gone down too well either.

Could we have afforded Maclaren or Rosler? Would they have come, after we'd sacked Appleton?

[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote:
Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue.
I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID[/p][/quote]Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim.
Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home).
Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc.
Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points.
We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season.
If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation.
Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship.
I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.[/p][/quote]I agree Riverside. The championship has been poor this year, we are still in with a very remote chance of the playoffs and yet we have 15 wins in 42 matches. Crazy. Its very frustrating knowing that it could easily have been very different.
If only the vile incompetent Venkys would have listened to the fans and appointed a manager with experience. Alongside McClaren there is also Rosler at Wigan, who were going nowhere until he arrived.[/p][/quote]oh yeah, when rovers were scouting around for a manager after lardy - mclaren was mentioned in dispatches and there was derision from all fans - i got mocked on here for saying how well he had done at boro.
perhaps we should have gone for someone who has had plenty of championship experience, had got a team promoted and could walk to brockhall - owen coyle.....ah yeah, that wouldn't have gone down too well either.[/p][/quote]Could we have afforded Maclaren or Rosler?
Would they have come, after we'd sacked Appleton?realisticrover

hasslem hasslem wrote…

DanBlackburn wrote…

Riverside 7 wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue. I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID

Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim. Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home). Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc. Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points. We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season. If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation. Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship. I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.

I agree Riverside. The championship has been poor this year, we are still in with a very remote chance of the playoffs and yet we have 15 wins in 42 matches. Crazy. Its very frustrating knowing that it could easily have been very different. If only the vile incompetent Venkys would have listened to the fans and appointed a manager with experience. Alongside McClaren there is also Rosler at Wigan, who were going nowhere until he arrived.

oh yeah, when rovers were scouting around for a manager after lardy - mclaren was mentioned in dispatches and there was derision from all fans - i got mocked on here for saying how well he had done at boro. perhaps we should have gone for someone who has had plenty of championship experience, had got a team promoted and could walk to brockhall - owen coyle.....ah yeah, that wouldn't have gone down too well either.

Could we have afforded Maclaren or Rosler? Would they have come, after we'd sacked Appleton?

Score: -1

maltese blue n white says...4:12pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Well it started OK... the reason I have not posted for over a year is that this site degenerates into playground name calling... Right now, I couldn't give a toss wether you blue n white or claret and blue... Burnley will go up for a hard faught season, Blackburn will not... for many reasons, new team, manager without exp, lack of funds etc etc..... Yeah, today I live many miles away, .... as does French Rover and many others,, but a fan is a fan,, I have walked up Cravens Brow having lost at home, called in the Fernhurst for a pint then walked home wondering " what happened?" some ya win some ya lose... .. 1974 was my 1st game at Rovers, and was hooked... I am pleased that Burnley will go up this season. Any northern club in the Prem league is better than none.... I was so happy to actually see a football thread yest... without the usual name calling and abuse. If we can continue in that viegn then perhaps this site will be worth re-visiting...

Well it started OK... the reason I have not posted for over a year is that this site degenerates into playground name calling... Right now, I couldn't give a toss wether you blue n white or claret and blue... Burnley will go up for a hard faught season, Blackburn will not... for many reasons, new team, manager without exp, lack of funds etc etc..... Yeah, today I live many miles away, .... as does French Rover and many others,, but a fan is a fan,, I have walked up Cravens Brow having lost at home, called in the Fernhurst for a pint then walked home wondering " what happened?" some ya win some ya lose... .. 1974 was my 1st game at Rovers, and was hooked... I am pleased that Burnley will go up this season. Any northern club in the Prem league is better than none.... I was so happy to actually see a football thread yest... without the usual name calling and abuse. If we can continue in that viegn then perhaps this site will be worth re-visiting...maltese blue n white

Well it started OK... the reason I have not posted for over a year is that this site degenerates into playground name calling... Right now, I couldn't give a toss wether you blue n white or claret and blue... Burnley will go up for a hard faught season, Blackburn will not... for many reasons, new team, manager without exp, lack of funds etc etc..... Yeah, today I live many miles away, .... as does French Rover and many others,, but a fan is a fan,, I have walked up Cravens Brow having lost at home, called in the Fernhurst for a pint then walked home wondering " what happened?" some ya win some ya lose... .. 1974 was my 1st game at Rovers, and was hooked... I am pleased that Burnley will go up this season. Any northern club in the Prem league is better than none.... I was so happy to actually see a football thread yest... without the usual name calling and abuse. If we can continue in that viegn then perhaps this site will be worth re-visiting...

Score: 2

DanBlackburn says...10:28am Thu 17 Apr 14

realisticrover wrote…

hasslem hasslem wrote…

DanBlackburn wrote…

Riverside 7 wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue. I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID

Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim. Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home). Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc. Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points. We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season. If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation. Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship. I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.

I agree Riverside. The championship has been poor this year, we are still in with a very remote chance of the playoffs and yet we have 15 wins in 42 matches. Crazy. Its very frustrating knowing that it could easily have been very different. If only the vile incompetent Venkys would have listened to the fans and appointed a manager with experience. Alongside McClaren there is also Rosler at Wigan, who were going nowhere until he arrived.

oh yeah, when rovers were scouting around for a manager after lardy - mclaren was mentioned in dispatches and there was derision from all fans - i got mocked on here for saying how well he had done at boro. perhaps we should have gone for someone who has had plenty of championship experience, had got a team promoted and could walk to brockhall - owen coyle.....ah yeah, that wouldn't have gone down too well either.

Could we have afforded Maclaren or Rosler? Would they have come, after we'd sacked Appleton?

OK you are right Riverside. Everything is great. Bowyer is the right man for the job, you have convinced me. Why bring in an experienced manager when we can carry on this ridiculous run of coaches filling the most important job at the club. Look where it has got us. Terrific. We should not be running scared because the past. Berg, Appleton and of course the loathsome Kean were huge mistakes. They were not chosen because of their experience but for other reasons. Corruption via Anderson for Kean, Berg apparently due to his interview with Scabby Minge (you just could not script it) and Appleton due to his friendship with the equally self serving incompetent Shaw. And now we have Mr Bowyer. Stability yes. Future success no. But hey I only hope I am wrong. No one loves the Rovers as much as I do. I have a 4 hour round trip for every home game.

[quote][p][bold]realisticrover[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote:
Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue.
I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID[/p][/quote]Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim.
Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home).
Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc.
Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points.
We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season.
If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation.
Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship.
I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.[/p][/quote]I agree Riverside. The championship has been poor this year, we are still in with a very remote chance of the playoffs and yet we have 15 wins in 42 matches. Crazy. Its very frustrating knowing that it could easily have been very different.
If only the vile incompetent Venkys would have listened to the fans and appointed a manager with experience. Alongside McClaren there is also Rosler at Wigan, who were going nowhere until he arrived.[/p][/quote]oh yeah, when rovers were scouting around for a manager after lardy - mclaren was mentioned in dispatches and there was derision from all fans - i got mocked on here for saying how well he had done at boro.
perhaps we should have gone for someone who has had plenty of championship experience, had got a team promoted and could walk to brockhall - owen coyle.....ah yeah, that wouldn't have gone down too well either.[/p][/quote]Could we have afforded Maclaren or Rosler?
Would they have come, after we'd sacked Appleton?[/p][/quote]OK you are right Riverside. Everything is great. Bowyer is the right man for the job, you have convinced me. Why bring in an experienced manager when we can carry on this ridiculous run of coaches filling the most important job at the club. Look where it has got us. Terrific.
We should not be running scared because the past. Berg, Appleton and of course the loathsome Kean were huge mistakes. They were not chosen because of their experience but for other reasons. Corruption via Anderson for Kean, Berg apparently due to his interview with Scabby Minge (you just could not script it) and Appleton due to his friendship with the equally self serving incompetent Shaw.
And now we have Mr Bowyer. Stability yes. Future success no. But hey I only hope I am wrong. No one loves the Rovers as much as I do. I have a 4 hour round trip for every home game.DanBlackburn

realisticrover wrote…

hasslem hasslem wrote…

DanBlackburn wrote…

Riverside 7 wrote…

maltese blue n white wrote…

Before we go any further with inane talk about the playoffs, Rovers need a consistent team. The flaws in the defence are apparent to most other championship managers, and have been exploited on many occasions this season, also the over reliance on Rhodes, although to be honest Bowyer seems to have got to grips with that issue. I believe that the assembled team (if we can keep hold of them) can really be a force in this league next season, yes, going up now would be great, but we would be up then down faster than a hookers drawers..... And although great financially, the reallity is when you drop you lose every decent player you have.... So right now I am happy to see us way above where we were this time last year, and with players that "want to wear the shirt" things might not be rosy, but we miles above the past couple of seasons.... RTID

Sorry Malta but we are not ‘way above where we were last year’ or even ‘miles above’ - as you claim. Just look at the facts – we have amassed only 2 points more than we did last season with 4 games to play ( 2 away and 2 at home). Last season the club was an absolute shambles what with 5 different managers, the Steve Kean protests, Shebby Singh, two damaging court cases etc. etc. Things could hardly have got any worse yet we still achieved a total of 58 points. We are currently mid-table only because the teams at the bottom have far fewer points than last season. If the likes of Barnsley, Charlton etc had more points we would again be looking over our shoulders at the possibility of relegation. Whilst GB did a great job in saving us from relegation and stabilising the club, this season, apart from Leicester, there have been no outstanding teams in the Championship. I look at the improvements at Derby after the appointment of McClaren and believe that Blackburn Rovers have missed a great opportunity to go up this season.

I agree Riverside. The championship has been poor this year, we are still in with a very remote chance of the playoffs and yet we have 15 wins in 42 matches. Crazy. Its very frustrating knowing that it could easily have been very different. If only the vile incompetent Venkys would have listened to the fans and appointed a manager with experience. Alongside McClaren there is also Rosler at Wigan, who were going nowhere until he arrived.

oh yeah, when rovers were scouting around for a manager after lardy - mclaren was mentioned in dispatches and there was derision from all fans - i got mocked on here for saying how well he had done at boro. perhaps we should have gone for someone who has had plenty of championship experience, had got a team promoted and could walk to brockhall - owen coyle.....ah yeah, that wouldn't have gone down too well either.

Could we have afforded Maclaren or Rosler? Would they have come, after we'd sacked Appleton?

OK you are right Riverside. Everything is great. Bowyer is the right man for the job, you have convinced me. Why bring in an experienced manager when we can carry on this ridiculous run of coaches filling the most important job at the club. Look where it has got us. Terrific. We should not be running scared because the past. Berg, Appleton and of course the loathsome Kean were huge mistakes. They were not chosen because of their experience but for other reasons. Corruption via Anderson for Kean, Berg apparently due to his interview with Scabby Minge (you just could not script it) and Appleton due to his friendship with the equally self serving incompetent Shaw. And now we have Mr Bowyer. Stability yes. Future success no. But hey I only hope I am wrong. No one loves the Rovers as much as I do. I have a 4 hour round trip for every home game.

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