Separate nation states for black and white people, with distribution of resources (such as mines/ farmland) distributed according to population size of each state. Allow for a 20 year cross over time where people living in each state have full dual citizenship of each state so that you avoid what happened with India and Pakistan.

Of course that would require impossible things like: rich white people weaning themselves off cheap black labour and black people not having the taxes of white people to sponge off.

Please tell me which points you disagree with
1) Most White people on average are significantly richer than black people.
2) Most Black people on average are significantly poorer than white people.
3) The county has progressive taxation that targets rich people. Such that the rich pay a larger amount than the poor. https://businesstech.co.za/news/fina...h-africas-tax/
4) The country has a social grant system and a welfare state that targets poor people.

If you don't disagree with the previous 5 points, then you have to conclude :
The people paying taxes are mainly white because they target the rich (1,3).
The people on the receiving end of the welfare system are mainly black because the system is targeted towards poor people (2,4).

Don't care for anything an ANC member says about the Zuma presidency. They were complicit. They enabled and defended him and dare I say some even profited from his criminal reign.

They can all take a hike.

This ^. Everyone seems to think that people like Pravin Gordhan and whomever are such upstanding human beings and what not, forgetting they defended that muppet, was it 8 times in votes of no confidence? All the while the country burned.

This ^. Everyone seems to think that people like Pravin Gordhan and whomever are such upstanding human beings and what not, forgetting they defended that muppet, was it 8 times in votes of no confidence? All the while the country burned.

697th time.

What good would have been a fired CR, PG and full power Zuma in the Cabinet apart from a scorched earth policy and waiting for the country to burn?

This is what would have happened if they voted against the party line, next move is to be booted out...

What good would have been a fired CR, PG and full power Zuma in the Cabinet apart from a scorched earth policy and waiting for the country to burn?

This is what would have happened if they voted against the party line, next move is to be booted out...

The peanut gallery is too naive to realise that the only way to effect change in this country is from within the ANC as a loyal cadre. Not even Zuma was willing to risk outright dismissal from the party which is why he resigned grumbling all the way about injustices. He knows there's hope for him in the party. For the foreseeable future at least.