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View Poll Results: Do you have a positive or negative view of Michael Moore?

Re: Do you have a positive or negative view of MICHAEL MOORE and WHY...

Originally Posted by ElijahGalt

Sorry that I proved Mike Godwin correct. But my assertion still remains credible. Moore has no problem with socialism and therefore has no problem with totalitarian regimes. In my mind, Hitler, Stalin, Castro, and Pol Pot were all evil. I've had debates with people who thought one should be considered "more evil" than the other, but I find tha debate pointless. This debate has a point, and it deals with the concept of socialism. Socialism is no longer considered a "dirty" political word. It is now acceptable, even preferable, that American politicians take on the mantel of European socialism.

And is it propaganda to point out the truth about Moore and Chomsky? Does anyone forget that Chomsky denied the killing fields were taking place, despite the massive evidence to the contrary? Moore is to Cuba what Chomsky is to Cambodia.

Chomsky never denied what happened in Cambodia. As for Moore, what has he denied about Cuba?

Re: Do you have a positive or negative view of MICHAEL MOORE and WHY...

Originally Posted by Winston Smith

I have a mixed to slightly positive opinion of Moore. I like that he confronts problems most people would rather ignore. Roger and Me is a good example of this. But I think his conclusions are based on a lot of faulty assumptions and bad analysis, for example his thesis that "capitalism is evil."

I will give him one thing. He and the right wing share many of the same misconceptions about what capitalism is. Given those misconceptions, capitalism would be evil, and it would be pretty despicable to defend it. If only for that reason, he's a better man than Limbaugh.

Re: Do you have a positive or negative view of MICHAEL MOORE and WHY...

Originally Posted by ElijahGalt

I believe citizens of Norway consider themselves "Democratic Socialists" or "Socialist Democrats." Either way, I believe their foundation is based on Marxist-Leninist belief systems. Btw, I did not specifically reference dictatorships. I mentioned totalitarianism, which is slightly different.

Prove to me where Moore supports totalitarianism. You assert it without actual evidence and instead with a leap of logic that doesn't pass muster. That technique is very similar to right-wing goofball websites. Thus the accusation that you are quoting them.

You base your assertion without providing a fact behind it. He supports socialism, therefore he supports totalitarianism. Wrong. You could have just as easily said: he supports socialism, therefore he supports democratic socialism, such as in France, Norway, or other nations whose systems he has expressed a liking for.

You didn't do that. You created a logical fallacy, failed to provide a fact to back your assertion or belief, and are therefore even more guilty of Moore of propaganda.

To dislike him is one thing (and utterly fair) - to say he supports Hitler and Pol Pot is utterly useless hyperbole.

Re: Do you have a positive or negative view of MICHAEL MOORE and WHY...

Originally Posted by pbrauer

Some people put their opinions in the newspaper; Moore is an entrepreneur who puts his in film and people pay to watch. To say it's total propaganda is inaccurate, but much of it in just his opinion. He is a brilliant film maker who needs to go on a diet.