Experienced coordinator, likely to be better than Shurmur. I kinda wanted Mike Sherman, but it also probably increased the chance that the Browns go Tannehill at #22, which the more I watch of him the less I'd like.

The problem with Childress is his track record with offenses. In the eight years that Childress has been a head coach or offensive coordinator in the NFL, his offenses have ranked in the bottom half of the league five times.

The disturbing part is he's only been an NFL playcaller for one season. The result? The Vikings finished 23rd in yards and 26th in points (17.6 per game) in 2006 before Childress passed those duties over to offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell the next season. Childress didn't call the plays in his three seasons as the Eagles' offensive coordinator (Andy Reid held that role) and he didn't call the plays in his final four seasons with the Vikings.

"And three of the better guys in franchise history, Daugherty, Z and now Kyrie could get hurt in a rubber room full of cotton balls." - Leadpipe

The problem with Childress is his track record with offenses. In the eight years that Childress has been a head coach or offensive coordinator in the NFL, his offenses have ranked in the bottom half of the league five times.

The disturbing part is he's only been an NFL playcaller for one season. The result? The Vikings finished 23rd in yards and 26th in points (17.6 per game) in 2006 before Childress passed those duties over to offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell the next season. Childress didn't call the plays in his three seasons as the Eagles' offensive coordinator (Andy Reid held that role) and he didn't call the plays in his final four seasons with the Vikings.

It doesn't matter what his track record is.

He knows the WCOHe worked under ReidHe is friends with WalrusHe is represented by Bob LaMonte

That is all you need to be a part of this confederacy of morons.

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I don't need to be patient, they're going to be shit forever. - CDT, discussing my favorite NFL team

Jauron's a solid DC. To even remotely compare him to Childress is a joke.

He's the one person on staff other than Heckert I can actually trust in knowing what's he's doing.

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

Same thing everyone said at the start of season three of the Crennel reign.

Outside of a couple good draft picks by Heckert, unless I've been missing something, Holmgren and his boy SHUR haven't done anything else that should earn them the benefit of the doubt en route to going 7-25 and hiring all the Walrus's drinking buddies that have been failures elsewhere.

Missouri.

"It's like dating a woman who hates you so much she will never break up with you, even if you burn down the house every single autumn." ~ Chuck Klosterman on Browns fans relationship with the Browns

The problem with Childress is his track record with offenses. In the eight years that Childress has been a head coach or offensive coordinator in the NFL, his offenses have ranked in the bottom half of the league five times.

The disturbing part is he's only been an NFL playcaller for one season. The result? The Vikings finished 23rd in yards and 26th in points (17.6 per game) in 2006 before Childress passed those duties over to offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell the next season. Childress didn't call the plays in his three seasons as the Eagles' offensive coordinator (Andy Reid held that role) and he didn't call the plays in his final four seasons with the Vikings.

Also just a sampling:

If I were Shurmur, I would rely on Childress' advice but not his play-calling ability.

Brad: What the hell are we doing here, Shur? We gotta get out of this town! Shur: Oh yeah, and go where? Where are we gonna go? Brad: I'll tell you where. Someplace warm. A place where the beer flows like wine. Where beautiful women instinctively flock like the salmon of Capistrano. I'm talking about a little place called Cleveland. Shur: Oh, I don't know, Brad. The French are assholes.

"It's like dating a woman who hates you so much she will never break up with you, even if you burn down the house every single autumn." ~ Chuck Klosterman on Browns fans relationship with the Browns

Hikohadon wrote:Just out of curiosity, Ye Who Be Flipping Out, who was it exactly you wanted them to hire (since it obviously wasn't The Human Muppet)?

Or were you just waiting to flip out on them no matter who they hired? Or if they didn't hire anyone at all?

Or maybe you could care less who they hired and just couldn't pass up a good ol' fashioned lynching?

Not flipping out, just not enjoying the scent of patsy.

And to answer the question, anyone with enough cache to be able to call the friggin' plays.

I have no confidence in Shurmer's ability to run an offense, therefore I have no confidence in his ability ot call plays. Again, looking histrically at Shurmer's record shows us that, well, the guys offenses don't really score points. Here, there, or anywhere.

I think, that what I want isn't gonna happen under this regime. Pretty clear it's not what you've done, it's who you know.

Holmgren, as of now, has done zero at the position he curently holds, anywhere in the NFL. Pat Shurmer was exactly on zero radars before his buddy came a callin'

And, I'm way too far down apathy's path to "flip out" over any of this shit anymore. This 12 year heater has taken something out of me. But really, I'm allowed to call things as I see them, and bring along some facts to support my feeling of gloom.I'm still sitting here with a coach who's in over his head, and a GM who thinks he's won 7 Super Bowls at the helm.