This doesn't belong on B-Greek; while derivative from interpretation of
Biblical texts, it concerns doctrine far more than it concerns Greek texts,
and the way the question has been posed and the subject header stated, it
must appear immediately to be an invitation to debate doctrine rather than
raise questions about how a specific text may or may not be legitimately
understood. Please let's not have any of this and let's not have any
continuation of this on B-Greek.