HJ - my bat is the red maxload 27oz - I agree w Gary who started this thread at the top, the bat seems dead to me and I swing senior and non senior bats. My 120BPF bats hit better than the new Miken. Like I stated yesterday Miken says to put some swings on the bat but the problem with that is the bat could break by the time I put 200/300 swings on it.

Bought a new ultra ii max-load 2 weeks ago - after hitting the bat last week and comparing it to a Bass Crippler and Worth 454 Senior I was vey disappointed in the performance of the Ultra. I called Miken today and they said that the New Ultra's need 200 - 300 swings before opening up???????? That tells me they are not as thin as before or its a different material than the older Ultra's.

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