I don't hate religion or the concept of Christianity, it's the people who proliferate it, evangelize it, bastardize it, kill in the name of it, and otherwise ram it down the throats of everyone around them that irritates the sh*t outta me.

"I don't hate religion or the concept of Christianity, it's the people who proliferate it, evangelize it, bastardize it, kill in the name of it, and otherwise ram it down the throats of everyone around them that irritates the sh*t outta me."

Apogee nails it. Add to that, that Christianity has slaughtered and enslaved more people in history than any other entity....

It's the organization that's the problem. I'm a Catholic by birth and now by choice, but I'm the first to admit that the church has had some really less than stellar moments.

Even if we presume that God is perfect, people are from it. As long as they're the ones running the church, whether it be large or small, it's only going to be as good as the person(s) running it. It's kind of like family. Some of them may be really f-ed up, but you love them anyways.

Few things in this world are perfect. Organized religion is a perfect example of that.

Nefarious, Jesus who never started a church or a religion said, to love your enemies....bless them that curse you.

I ask over and over why and what is the point in grouping people under one umbrella we are all different. I try hard not to give people labels. If you do often you don't get to know the individual who may be a pretty terrific person and have some great gifts to offer.

The only “Christian” conflict that makes the Wiki list is the 30 years war with a upper limit of about 11 ˝ million. (probably half that) And this was really a straight nation state political conflict over territory and resources.

I’m not going to go thru the exercise of weeding out all the duplicates, eliminating the purely political slaughters and adding up the numbers, but I’d bet you can’t come up with a list that is remotely purely “Christian “ that exceeds 15 million from 800to 1700. Only the French religious wars and the Thirty Years war make the list of major conflicts and they only total 10 million between them. Stalin did better than twice that all by himself. The death toll from the Inquisition was 31,000 by some pretty good official record keeping. Most of the toll from the Crusades were Europeans killed by Arabs in Europe, that was around 2 million.