I have purchased a gun from Bersa, which came with one magazine. I did not like it because it was not visibly advertised. In a communication with their rep it was stated that they would not be able to make a profit otherwise. That prompted me to make a comparison. Comparing 24 ounce $450 handgun with 3300 lbs 30000 car, weightwise handgun is 30x more expensive. I do not disaprove free market pricing, but hearing sob story about lack of profits makes me wonder.

Holy Cow!! $450 for a Bersa? The most expensive Bersa out here in CA is $299 and that is at the most expensive shop I know about. If you got it on Gallery of Guns you could get it for closer to $225 +/-

Gun in question was UC9 pro 13+1, not one of 380 variants. (I also bought Bersa 380cc for $290 at the same time.) I bought it last october under $400, when store prices faired $429-449. It is higher now, but I used $450 as a mean price for the sake of comparison. Feel free to take any other weight/price ratio into account, handgun industry beats car industry hands down.

I got a Hi Point carbine just for fun, I would not pay a penny more than what it retails for. I think people that buy these on sites like Arm-list, don't have access to buy them locally. Or possibly new to guns and just like it for the looks. I've found that a lot of younger guys are buying these because they can't afford AR's, not that those two platforms are even comparable. But it might be an entry level rifle for them.

People that buy them are looking for the cheap version of an AR that takes the same ammo as their handgun. I had one and that is what I liked about it. I did not know about the bullet button at the time and thought that it was strange to have to have a tool to release the magazine, so I sold it. Any of these resellers also that are not selling the guns for MSRP or below are ripping people off. A local store by me wanteed to sell new Glock 17s for over $800. I think they should be put out of buisness.

I bought a Hi-Point 9mm C9. The day I bought it I took it to the range. A buddy of mine went with me. He brought a High Standard 45acp and a Springfield Armory. His two jammed about every mag at least once. My cheap C9 didnt jam at all. I have not had any jams, except when I had the mag not all the in. So I dont know what else to tell ya.