Message 5

Which channels can we get (here in N Wales) that you can't get in South Wales, David?

I thought everyone could get the same Freeview channels, the only variation being the regional channels.

If you are one of the 92% of the population who receive TV from one of the 84 main transmitters you will receive 6 bundle of Programmes (they are called Multiplexes or Muxes) however if you are one of the remaining 6% to 7% of population who receive from one of the over a thousand Relay transmitters you only receive the first Three Muxes which carry on the whole Public Service Broadcasters - ie. all the BBC SD (including Radio) (PSB1) ITV, Ch4 and Chanel five (Plus S4C ) (PSB2) - there are also some non PSB TV related to ITV and Ch4 etc... plus the HD channels. (PSB3 )

It may be that David being in South Wales where there are lots of these relay transmitters can only get the the three PSB muxes..... see stakeholders.ofcom.o...compared to the rest of Wales stakeholders.ofcom.o...Main stations are underlined - Wenvoe is the main one for South Wales

the Digital UK postcode checker with Detailed view selected www.digitaluk.co.uk/... is a good indication of what you can receive ... But you may need to move/ change the aerial to point at a main transmitter ..... if there is one which you can receive.

The reason that there is this difference is that the channels who are carried on the three non PSB= commercial muxes cannot afford the extra cost of transmitting to a very few percent of population..... while the PSB had to meet the coverage of Analogue TV ( which they actually exceed)

Message 8

Which channels can we get (here in N Wales) that you can't get in South Wales, David?

I thought everyone could get the same Freeview channels, the only variation being the regional channels.

If you are one of the 92% of the population who receive TV from one of the 84 main transmitters you will receive 6 bundle of Programmes (they are called Multiplexes or Muxes) however if you are one of the remaining 6% to 7% of population who receive from one of the over a thousand Relay transmitters you only receive the first Three Muxes which carry on the whole Public Service Broadcasters - ie. all the BBC SD (including Radio) (PSB1) ITV, Ch4 and Chanel five (Plus S4C ) (PSB2) - there are also some non PSB TV related to ITV and Ch4 etc... plus the HD channels. (PSB3 )

It may be that David being in South Wales where there are lots of these relay transmitters can only get the the three PSB muxes..... see stakeholders.ofcom.o...compared to the rest of Wales stakeholders.ofcom.o...Main stations are underlined - Wenvoe is the main one for South Wales

the Digital UK postcode checker with Detailed view selected www.digitaluk.co.uk/... is a good indication of what you can receive ... But you may need to move/ change the aerial to point at a main transmitter ..... if there is one which you can receive.

The reason that there is this difference is that the channels who are carried on the three non PSB= commercial muxes cannot afford the extra cost of transmitting to a very few percent of population..... while the PSB had to meet the coverage of Analogue TV ( which they actually exceed) There should not be any cost for analogue signal as that ceased everywhere last year ,can the other muxes not be carried on the available space?

Message 9

There should not be any cost for analogue signal as that ceased everywhere last year ,can the other muxes not be carried on the available space?

In theory yes if it had been planned in ..... (It would have been difficult to get everyone ..as we had 4 or 5 frquencies and need 6 per mast) )

But the programme providers on those COM muxes were not prepared to pay for the thousand transmitters which are needed to cover the 5 or so % of population that cannot be covered by the 84 Transmitter which cover about 93% to 94%of Population..... (BTW 20 transmitters cover about 65% of which Crystal Palace is about 18%)

So simple economics - they will not get enough money in to pay for the transmitters.

So we moved from analogue with Five channelstwo BBC , two commercial PSB with 98% coverage plus Five which had about 70% population coverage (ie.e nothing much south of M4 ..)

We now have in the digital world 10 BBC and 3 other PSB Viz SD 8 channel BBC PSB , and the other three PSB are still there but five has got 98.7% like the others .

Plus 18 BBC radios and red button text and video

Plus four HD - two BBC, ITV and Ch 4 and a hole because five will not pay for their service to be carried .... (losing the BBC lots of money).

Plus the + 1 from ITV and Ch4 Plus by some happenstance the 4 commercial non PSB channels ITV2. ITV3 More four and E4 ...

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