I can understand the arguing against the sexuality put into Doctor Who now... especially when you remind yourself he is both and alien and at least a dozen centuries old. On the other hand they also mentioned Peter Purves said it was too complicated. I say it's not nearly complicated enough but everyone in the show acts like it is so that if someone at home doesn't get it they don't feel bad.

Also, twitter posts included in the article are a great sign of journalistic integrity.

The new episode of Doctor Who was good, it brought back the Ice Warriors, but it gave me a headache.

I had the broad timeline of Doctor Who sort of set in my mind, but it was precarious because some of it was contradictory if you weren't careful. I had a bit of uneasy peace, but then this episode came along and messed it all up like dominoes.

It also brought back the HADS (Hostile Action Displacement System) which was great as that hasn;t been used in forever. With good reason because it only really serves to take the TARDIS out of danger. And since the Doctor is usually in the thick of it, that means the TARDIS is essentially taken away from him. In fact, that might be the origin of HADS. With the TARDIS the Doctor might have fixed things in seconds so the writers found a way to put it out of his reach.

Today a friend and I tried fish fingers with custard for the first time. I'm still not actually sure what I thought about it. It was kind of tasty, but at the same time not at all.

Also, as I may have mentioned I started watching Doctor Who a few weeks ago (starting from the beginning of the modern series with Eccleston). I just saw Asylum of the Daleks, so I should be up-to-date sometime this week or next.

TheTJ wrote:There's like a 90% chance they'll dance around it or whisper it like in Silence of the Library.

The other 10% chance is that his name will be Rassilon.

If I remember correctly, it's written into the contract of the writers that if they let the name of The Doctor slip, they get sued in an insane amount... I think... google isn't backing me up on this though...

...If there's any consolation, it's almost certainly not true. For LOTS of reasons.

1. We've seen twice in this series a rundown of all previous Doctors (The Next Doctor and The Eleventh Hour)

2. It would use up an ENTIRE regeneration of which we're running low.

3. This will be the 50th anniversary they're talking about. Not only will it be one of the most anticipated episodes the show has ever had, it's bound to have the most twists possible. And they're NOT revealing them 7 months in advance.

4. The reason given for them not remembering him was "The shame of the Time War making him forget" except for the fact that 9 and 10 ACTIVELY BROODED ON THE TIME WAR. "Oooh man, I feel really angry over this conflict of which I have no memory, except for when I directly reference them"

5. It's extremely stupid and fans will riot. I would join them.

Odds are high this is either a smoke screen set up to deflect fans from the actual plot, or it's misdirection. Like, Joh Hurt's the Master masquerading as the Doctor. Of course the Doctor should catch on, but whatever. Matt Smith is 11 and that's final.

EDIT: All that aside I'm having a bit of a panic attack over this. You've done all right so far Moffat, but this would be the worst thing since Dimensions in Time.

Let's be honest, even if Matt Smith is the final regen, it's Doctor Who. They'll pull some interdimensional bullshit out of their ass to explain it away. Calling it now, they'll reset the whole regeneration somehow so there can be 12 more doctors. Because with the amount of money DW makes they're not going to end it all when Matt Smith falls off radio telescope.

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Because it screws up all sorts of continuity. I can't tell you how much stuff out there explicitly states which Doctor is which. Matt Smith's debut episode was called the ELEVENth hour even. The Forgotten showed all the Doctors and I don't remember Hurt being in there.

... I don't even see why he HAS to be between 8 and 9. I mean, it's not like Time Lords have to be even remotely similar between regenerations. Tom Baker was almost nothing like Peter Davison, who was miles away from Colin Baker, who was very different from Sylvester McCoy, etc.

The ONLY way I'll give him being between 8 and 9 is if that's literally the case. There's even precedent for this. The Valeyard was a conglomeration of a mix between two future versions of what the Doctor could become. The Time Lords used the Matrix to project what the Doctor's 12th and 13th forms would be like if he got evil and mixed those two together the make the Valeyard. It's possible John Hurt COULD be something like that done during the Time War, a mix between the then current Doctor and the Next one created to give an advantage against the Daleks given the Doctor's history with them.

But simply forcing him in there and making all the Doctors older... that's just a bad idea.

From what I understand, they're going to make Eccleston actually be the 10th, tennant be the 11th and matt smith be the 12th. And they're doing this because eccleston won't do the anniversary special so they're crowbaring in another doctor because matt smith and david tennant can't be the only doctors in the special.

Why they don't just bring some classic doctors out of retirement I have no fucking clue because that would make sense.

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If you haven't seen the Series 7 finale, you should stop reading this thread now and go somewhere else. And by somewhere else, I mean to watch the goddamn episode. Do it.

In other news, I loved it and I dare to say you will too, even if you were initially skeptical of John Hurt's addition to the DW canon. Because really, Moffat did this the best way anyone could. Chris Eccleston is still the 9th Doctor, Tennant the 10th and Smith the 11th. John Hurt's character might be the same person as the Doctor... but he isn't the Doctor.

Spontaneous Combustion wrote:If you haven't seen the Series 7 finale, you should stop reading this thread now and go somewhere else. And by somewhere else, I mean to watch the goddamn episode. Do it.

In other news, I loved it and I dare to say you will too, even if you were initially skeptical of John Hurt's addition to the DW canon. Because really, Moffat did this the best way anyone could. Chris Eccleston is still the 9th Doctor, Tennant the 10th and Smith the 11th. John Hurt's character might be the same person as the Doctor... but he isn't the Doctor.

Nope, not at all. For one thing, that's still a whole regeneration gone. For another, you don't get to disown yourself, it simply doesn't work that way.

Imagine I do something out of character and kill a bunch of people. Now, that's so different from how I normally am I can truthfully say I wasn't myself. But guess what? I STILL WAS THAT GUY.

It's... it's bad retroactive continuity. I'm sure there are a dozen lines in NuWho alone which makes this revelation senseless.

At least they never said the Doctor's name. Although WHY a time traveler visiting their grave is a terrible thing is unclear, as Amy and Rory did it. And why does being dead make it such a huge deal? I'll grant you he's never seen a future self from the POV we're given bust past Doctors have met the "Present" Doctor multiple times.

...Parts were good, and at least it'll maybe get some NuWho fans to watch some classics, but I'm too upset over John Hurt to enjoy this. And that "Introducing" thing was kinda dumb.

Now if John Hurt really was the 9th Doctor (I don't buy it, he's 8.5 in my eyes) this next actor would be the last, at least until they come up with some shenanigans to keep the Doctor alive, which they'll obviously do.

Now if John Hurt really was the 9th Doctor (I don't buy it, he's 8.5 in my eyes) this next actor would be the last, at least until they come up with some shenanigans to keep the Doctor alive, which they'll obviously do.