More than once, our team has ended up paying more for a player than we would have had to, if we had just paid them up front instead of trying to negotiate with them for weeks or even months. We've lost players they were too cheap to pay. Don't want to do the math, but our combined QB salary is laughable. Even though we paid Von, they were being super stubborn about getting that deal done - multiple articles appeared at the time, basically calling the team and Elway cheap.

I don't mind smart frugality. But Elway seems to always take that route regardless, it's his go-to move with coaches and players both. I was stunned Wade left. Regardless of what issues there might have been, I know we could have kept him, had we paid him a bit more. But wasn't going to happen. We can just promote people and bring in coordinators.. and we are good to go!

Except now our team is full of dysfunctional coaches, QBs, players.. while key pieces of our team were let go for peanuts.

Elway assembled the team that went to 2 Super Bowls and won it all in 2015. Now that we're losing all of a sudden people losing their minds. Decisions have to be made and unfortunately several have not worked out. I Paxton was the guy we wouldn't be having this conversation. Paxton sucks and we have no qb so now everything falling apart. A competent qb could give hope and even make this trash oline look a bit better. We're seeing the domino effect here

Elway assembled the team that went to 2 Super Bowls and won it all in 2015. Now that we're losing all of a sudden people losing their minds. Decisions have to be made and unfortunately several have not worked out. I Paxton was the guy we wouldn't be having this conversation. Paxton sucks and we have no qb so now everything falling apart. A competent qb could give hope and even make this trash oline look a bit better. We're seeing the domino effect here

Elway hasn't done **** without Manning. Manning was the control freak who kept guys focused and it's not crazy to suggest he was the free-agent magnet as well.

Elway assembled the team that went to 2 Super Bowls and won it all in 2015. Now that we're losing all of a sudden people losing their minds. Decisions have to be made and unfortunately several have not worked out. I Paxton was the guy we wouldn't be having this conversation. Paxton sucks and we have no qb so now everything falling apart. A competent qb could give hope and even make this trash oline look a bit better. We're seeing the domino effect here

Elway's drafts have been abortions and there has been no continuity with the coaching staff's since he has been here. Always changing the diapers. It finally is catching up with him.

Elway's drafts have been abortions and there has been no continuity with the coaching staff's since he has been here. Always changing the diapers. It finally is catching up with him.

Agree with you but Elway got manning here which got us to 2 Super Bowls. Could be a lot worse. Situation sucks now and we can all be Monday morning qbs and question every move. Personally Elway a offensive drafts is what's costing us big time. Total **** show

Elway hasn't done **** without Manning. Manning was the control freak who kept guys focused and it's not crazy to suggest he was the free-agent magnet as well.

Kind of irrelevant....Brady hasn't done **** without Belichick either, or Belichick hasn't don't **** without Brady. Denver's never won a Superbowl without Elway. I guess it's a little harder to dominate when your lose a HOF Quarterback.

honestly, there's too much talent still on this team for it to be performing the way it is. Talent that Elway acquired. The coaching is bad...that was a bad choice, he went for the new talent instead of the retread coach, which a lot of people were wanting. It didn't work, I'll only be worried if he doesn't have the guts to admit it was a failed experiment and move on.

Agree with you but Elway got manning here which got us to 2 Super Bowls. Could be a lot worse. Situation sucks now and we can all be Monday morning qbs and question every move. Personally Elway a offensive drafts is what's costing us big time. Total **** show

Agree with you but Elway got manning here which got us to 2 Super Bowls. Could be a lot worse. Situation sucks now and we can all be Monday morning qbs and question every move. Personally Elway a offensive drafts is what's costing us big time. Total **** show

“Elway is a good GM as long as he can sign future HoF QB’s in free agency.”

Everyone keeps mentioning Kyle Shanahan. The guy who was the best hire appears to be Sean McVay.

SF is a true dumpster fire. I wasn't on the Kyle bandwagon but I think he deserves more time. He is at least actively engaged in the gameday activities on the sideline. That team has also had several close games. And he is stuck with CJ Beathard for god's sake.

VJ took over a 9-7 team and reduced it to rubble. Agreed on McVay. That's what I wanted to see if we were going to go young HC. Somebody to bring in a new energy, attitude. Instead we get Radio. It's clear that Kyle was the right hire and retaining Wade as well.

Those are most of the major contributors that season/game. Though Shane Ray had a FF in the Superbowl and 4 sacks on the year as well. should be noted that neither Marshall or Stewart were high profile signing's either, they were well scouted under the radar additions.

Elway's struggled with drafting offense, but to say they are abortions it exaggeration well beyond my use of 90%.