thank u, you are right emmanuel! i thought i was going mad there for a second…

for some reason that i cant understand, i have got max / msp 4.63 (and jitter 1.5) installed, but i have externals that are a year older than in the current installer (which i have just DL from C74 website).

how that happened, i have no idea… i’m more interested in resolving this situation!

if i install 4.63 over my current install, will i have to redo the incremental updates? and will it effect my jitter installation (which also has the updated API)?

> i re-installed max-msp 4.63 over my current installation… but it
> hasnt changed my situation with listfunnel, it still cant count with
> an offset argument!?
>
> i have searched the max folder with finder and i can only find one
> instance of the listfunnel object.

1. manually extracting the listfunnel object from the max installer (via show package contents) and copying it to the max installation folder (max/c74/externals)

2. deleting the object from the current installation and re-installing.

neither method has worked, i still have a listfunnel with numeracy problems.

the help is much appreciated, cos i’m in the middle of making a fairly complex app… my max installation seems stable, i’ve been working with it almost exclusively this week with no other problems.

could it be possible that my laptop has 3rd party libs / objects which are interfering? altho, i doubt it as the usual problem is duplicate objects or objects that share the same name. regardless, i think i might try a clean install on another machine, see if i get the same issue…

justin schrieb:
> neither method has worked, i still have a listfunnel with numeracy problems.

Restart Max freshly, and try to use the install command, and install the
newly downloaded listfunnel. Then load your patch. If that works, it is
possible that there is an old listfunnel within a Max standalone program
which might flow around in your search path and is loaded before the
real one. It wouldn’t be as visible as one wants…

a while ago, i added the pluggo bonus externals to the max search path… (the pluggo xterns are installed in the c74 folder in library/app support) – and in that collection of externals is an outdated listfunnel!!!