Speaking with the Daily Beast, the “Beautiful People” singer, 47, opened up about his close relationship with Depp, 53, and the actor’s children with ex Vanessa Paradis, Lily-Rose, 17, and Jack, 14:

“Lily-Rose is my goddaughter and I was there when Jack was born, so we go back,” Manson told the news outlet. “Johnny is one of the nicest people that I know — to the extent where it’s almost heartbreaking how kind he is to his friends, and everyone around him. I know that he was completely crucified — unjustly.”

“I would stand by him on anything,” the rocker said. “As my friend, I know that he’s handling it the best he can and he’s a great dad too. It fills me with joy to see his kids grow up and be so smart, and so hilarious. We played a show together not too long ago.”

“It’s hard to say when you talk about your friends. Of course I think that all of it was bulls‑‑t, and I think that he is a great person. I wouldn’t agree with any of it if someone were to put me on the stand and ask me what I know, or what I’ve witnessed.”

Yeah, well, sometimes when you’re an abuser you keep your abuses hidden, in house, away from friends and family. Often, that’s the nature of the abuse- private. So while I believe Marilyn in that he’s probably had really positive experiences with Depp, that doesn’t mean the abuse never existed.