What the hell does any of this have to do with middle line backers! ???

Football on the mind... but in all sincerity... the Tigers BETTER do something this offseason... Did anyone hear the details of the "blockbuster" deal we turned down on Tuesday????

From what I hear the trade was Verlander, Granderson, and a minor league prospect for Javier V?zquez... Personally I think with proper training Verlander himself can be better than Javier V?zquez, but that's just my opinion.... Thoughts???

_________________"If he isn't the best football player, the best runner, that the Lord has ever made, then the Lord has yet to make one." Wayne Fontes on Barry.

December 7th, 2005, 10:11 pm

LionsFan54

Stadium Announcer

Joined: April 10th, 2005, 5:33 pmPosts: 83

It wasn't Verlander, it was Zumaya. I still wouldn't like the deal because i think Granderson is a great player. I'd do Zumaya, Logan, and another prospect for Vazquez

December 7th, 2005, 10:28 pm

The Legend

Off. Coordinator – Joe Lombardi

Joined: February 11th, 2005, 3:01 pmPosts: 4026Location: WSU

TODD JONES? what year is it? wow, we are going nowwhere. jim leyland have fun being alan trammell this year. its hard to make it seem like you are a flawless manager when the team loses 90 games a year...

December 7th, 2005, 11:00 pm

wjb21ndtown

The Legend wrote:

TODD JONES? what year is it? wow, we are going nowwhere. jim leyland have fun being alan trammell this year. its hard to make it seem like you are a flawless manager when the team loses 90 games a year...

I think you will see a dramatic improvement within the organization even if we don't change any personnel. Allen Trammel was a horrible manager, and he was a terrible personnel guy. How many lead off batters did we have last year? How many games did he play Inge despite going 0 - 30ish... What was the deal with Pena/Shelton? What was the deal in C field with Thames, Granderson, Monroe, Logan? We lacked consistency. We lacked professionalism. And we lacked a clear devisive plan. Firing Trammel was a good decision, and even if we don't make ONE roster move Leyland will win us 10-20 more games.

December 7th, 2005, 11:26 pm

wjb21ndtown

The Legend wrote:

TODD JONES? what year is it? wow, we are going nowwhere. jim leyland have fun being alan trammell this year. its hard to make it seem like you are a flawless manager when the team loses 90 games a year...

To be fair, I don't think anyone thought that we would have the number 1 record in the majors at this or any point in the season.

_________________"If he isn't the best football player, the best runner, that the Lord has ever made, then the Lord has yet to make one." Wayne Fontes on Barry.

June 14th, 2006, 1:17 pm

wjb21ndtown

bsand2053 wrote:

To be fair, I don't think anyone thought that we would have the number 1 record in the majors at this or any point in the season.

Bsand... It's not about thinking we would have the #1 record... It's about saying we "are going nowwhere," and saying it so emphaticly, as if it is a matter of fact... I expected us to be behind Chicago, and battling with Cleveland for the #2 spot, and maybe even losing out on that right. I expected us to be slightly better than .500 this year... That's improvement, and I would have been happy with it... But after vehemently condemning the signing of Rogers, who has been the biggest asset to our pitching staff, and the single biggest contributor regarding personnel, one should expect to eat a little crow. His vetran leadership and steady performances, especially when the team is sliding, are invaluable to our squad.