Yeah like the japanse animation companies view north american as one big market why do chinese view Canada and US as separate markets?

Because for the animation companies, the primary market for most anime series is DVD's, and Canada and the United States are a single DVD region. The few times that Canada has been locked out in Anime seem to have been interference from existing Canadian broadcast rights.

But the company that is publishing these movies on Crunchyroll is mostly focused on cable broadcast, and broadcast markets have been country by country from a long time back.

If they decided to start up in Canada, and obtained Canadian rights as part of that process, it seems that getting the Canadian streaming rights would be straightforward. Or else, if they worked out a partnership with an existing Canadian cable channel to pool their resources to get the broadcast rights, it might also work out.

But so long as they only get the US rights, they can only grant streaming rights to the US.

Yeah like the japanse animation companies view north american as one big market why do chinese view Canada and US as separate markets?

Because for the animation companies, the primary market for most anime series is DVD's, and Canada and the United States are a single DVD region. The few times that Canada has been locked out in Anime seem to have been interference from existing Canadian broadcast rights.

But the company that is publishing these movies on Crunchyroll is mostly focused on cable broadcast, and broadcast markets have been country by country from a long time back.

If they decided to start up in Canada, and obtained Canadian rights as part of that process, it seems that getting the Canadian streaming rights would be straightforward. Or else, if they worked out a partnership with an existing Canadian cable channel to pool their resources to get the broadcast rights, it might also work out.

But so long as they only get the US rights, they can only grant streaming rights to the US.

I suppose that how they choose to handle the their product for the market. I know when I was negotiating with some content providers I was asking for all rights not just DVD nor broadcast right but also auxiliary rights for their products including licensing IP content and rebroadcast streaming and other extended rights.

I do have to say when I negotiated with the Japanese IP they were much more savvier and much more knowledgeable about standard practices versus when I talked to Chinese IP content providers. But it never worked out for me... but I am glad Crunchyroll succeeded.

sunnyerenwrote: I suppose that how they choose to handle the their product for the market. I know when I was negotiating with some content providers I was asking for all rights not just DVD nor broadcast right but also auxiliary rights for their products including licensing IP content and rebroadcast streaming and other extended rights.

Yes, in some markets like print publishing, rights are normally unbundled, in others, like visual media, rights in the West are normally bundled.

That is, indeed, one of the reasons why international licensees exist for Japanese anime, since anime rights are normally spread across the production committee, so treating the bundle of rights for international licensing as one more thing to be allocated to one of the committee members makes for a simpler interface between the two different approaches.

My point was that the primary market for MaiTeng is the US market, which is natural given their focus on broadcast. Giving Crunchyroll streaming rights is a sideline to MaiTeng: one more way to monetize the rights they already hold.

Going from that to getting country rights that they do not presently pursue so that they can grant the rights to Crunchyroll is a big step, and so there is no reason to expect that it will happen, or if it happens, no reason to expect it to happen quickly.

sunnyerenwrote: I suppose that how they choose to handle the their product for the market. I know when I was negotiating with some content providers I was asking for all rights not just DVD nor broadcast right but also auxiliary rights for their products including licensing IP content and rebroadcast streaming and other extended rights.

Yes, in some markets like print publishing, rights are normally unbundled, in others, like visual media, rights in the West are normally bundled.

That is, indeed, one of the reasons why international licensees exist for Japanese anime, since anime rights are normally spread across the production committee, so treating the bundle of rights for international licensing as one more thing to be allocated to one of the committee members makes for a simpler interface between the two different approaches.

My point was that the primary market for MaiTeng is the US market, which is natural given their focus on broadcast. Giving Crunchyroll streaming rights is a sideline to MaiTeng: one more way to monetize the rights they already hold.

Going from that to getting country rights that they do not presently pursue so that they can grant the rights to Crunchyroll is a big step, and so there is no reason to expect that it will happen, or if it happens, no reason to expect it to happen quickly.

Just curious how come you know the situation for MaiTeng? You involved with Crunchyroll? Just curious..... I tried negotiating with Nippon Animation and Toonring as a sample of the things I dealt with... Gawd what a pain in the ass trying to secure rights was...

sunnyerenwrote: Just curious how come you know the situation for MaiTeng? You involved with Crunchyroll? Just curious..... I tried negotiating with Nippon Animation and Toonring as a sample of the things I dealt with... Gawd what a pain in the ass trying to secure rights was...

Just looking at their various operations when Crunchyroll announced the deal to put up a streaming site for MaiTeng ~ an advantage of researching the markets for media companies is that they are eager to let potential customers know where and how they can be found.

Another week with more Chinese movies and we have 20+ titles that were just launched to premium members*. Free users will have access to 4 titles/week. The launch dates for free users have been indicated below. The Mandarin (with English subtitles) versions are now out along with the Cantonese (with English subtitles) versions. Saulabi is a Korean movie that has also be dubbed into Japanese. Both versions have English subtitles. You'll have hours and hours of movies to watch so enjoy them ALL!

Thanks so much, guys! I like how you're consistently growing the drama/movie section with effort (As well as past anime series). It's really appreciated. I've been paying the site for years -- donations before memberships were organized. I've seen the site go through so many different incarnations but have been really impressed with the movement necessary to go through all of them in such a short time. I had faith the selection would return, and feel good about being able to watch them legitimately and easily. Keep up the great work! I would love to see Japanese dramas return, as well as more movies.