Fanboys need to stop PRETENDING that MGS4 didn't drag on and on and on more so then past installments with it's over done cutscenes. Did you actually play the game or were you too bosy drooling over the cutscenes. It's a wildly known fact.

It drug on it drug on it drug on. Split screen Raiden/Vamp cutscenes anyone? Yea that was STUPID.

I also very much believe that the game is overly priased (especially on this site) because it's a PS exclusive.

I loved that cutscene more then most of it, it was so epic I wish more games would do it.

I respect and totally get others' entitlement to their own opinions. But saying this (and just noticing other people - for whatever $#@!ing reason - are just coming into the thread to troll - if you don't like MGS, brilliant! I just think that you'd still be able to sleep at night without having to voice your opinion and trying to piss people off) on a thread like this is pointless; almost to the point of trolling.

TO make it clear, as a spy-genre nut; I love both.

But I just wouldn't go into a Splinter Cell thread and troll "Solid Snake"!
/justsaying
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This game is going to be awesome. The whole open world thing is going to be revolutionary for the stealth/spy series.

Hardly trolling. If the picture doesn't remind you of Sam Fisher then you're lying to yourself. Not saying anything about the game just that scene portrayed in the picture is very Splinter Cell-esque. It's mainly the night vision goggles.

(I'm only talking about Sam Fisher BEFORE he started doing his missions in the daylight Michael Bay style).

Is Peace Walker really that good? I'm a few hours into it but stopped playing a few weeks ago. Was finding it tough to get into.

It really is and don't worry, I had the exact same reaction as you the first time I tried. I put it down for months and I finally picked up again before summer..let me just say that it is an addicting game. I must have 50+ hours into it already..if you are at the beginning, then things will gradually unlock by each mission you complete because each mission introduces a new game mode or a feature. It's kind of logical really because if they gave it to you all at once, it would be incredibly overwhelming, so you slowly unlock things and they'll give you missions with specific objectives so you get used to the new gameplay. It's really nice. The only thing I don't like is the comic book cut-scenes..It's understandable that it was made for the PSP first, but still..

Originally Posted by Versus

Fanboys need to stop PRETENDING that MGS4 didn't drag on and on and on more so then past installments with it's over done cutscenes. Did you actually play the game or were you too bosy drooling over the cutscenes. It's a wildly known fact.

It drug on it drug on it drug on. Split screen Raiden/Vamp cutscenes anyone? Yea that was STUPID.

I also very much believe that the game is overly priased (especially on this site) because it's a PS exclusive.

Yeah, maybe you should just stick to your JRPG's before you start flaming in here and implying we are all fanboys.

I very much enjoyed MGS4, why the $#@! would I buy it otherwise? I'm a fan of the series. It did have a lot of cut scenes, but it did NOT drag on for me. I played it three times and watched all the cut scenes again and again and again.

It really is and don't worry, I had the exact same reaction as you the first time I tried. I put it down for months and I finally picked up again before summer..let me just say that it is an addicting game. I must have 50+ hours into it already..if you are at the beginning, then things will gradually unlock by each mission you complete because each mission introduces a new game mode or a feature. It's kind of logical really because if they gave it to you all at once, it would be incredibly overwhelming, so you slowly unlock things and they'll give you missions with specific objectives so you get used to the new gameplay. It's really nice. The only thing I don't like is the comic book cut-scenes..It's understandable that it was made for the PSP first, but still..

Yeah, maybe you should just stick to your JRPG's before you start flaming in here and implying we are all fanboys.

I very much enjoyed MGS4, why the $#@! would I buy it otherwise? I'm a fan of the series. It did have a lot of cut scenes, but it did NOT drag on for me. I played it three times and watched all the cut scenes again and again and again.

Indeed, unless I sat through those cutscenes 4 time because I was pretending to like enjoy them
Thou my main problem with his post was it came from nowhere :-/

I respect and totally get others' entitlement to their own opinions. But saying this (and just noticing other people - for whatever $#@!ing reason - are just coming into the thread to troll - if you don't like MGS, brilliant! I just think that you'd still be able to sleep at night without having to voice your opinion and trying to piss people off) on a thread like this is pointless; almost to the point of trolling.

TO make it clear, as a spy-genre nut; I love both.

But I just wouldn't go into a Splinter Cell thread and troll "Solid Snake"!
/justsaying
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This game is going to be awesome. The whole open world thing is going to be revolutionary for the stealth/spy series.

But I wonder, how will this fit into MGS canon?

Sorry, but it was also the first thing I thought when I saw the photo as well, if you shorten the hair at the back, it looks far more like Sam that Snake...

As a person trying really hard to get into MGS (still working my through MGS2), I'm not trying to be bias.

I respect and totally get others' entitlement to their own opinions. But saying this (and just noticing other people - for whatever $#@!ing reason - are just coming into the thread to troll - if you don't like MGS, brilliant! I just think that you'd still be able to sleep at night without having to voice your opinion and trying to piss people off) on a thread like this is pointless; almost to the point of trolling.

TO make it clear, as a spy-genre nut; I love both.

But I just wouldn't go into a Splinter Cell thread and troll "Solid Snake"!
/justsaying
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This game is going to be awesome. The whole open world thing is going to be revolutionary for the stealth/spy series.

But I wonder, how will this fit into MGS canon?

Please take that crap to PM. If you have an issue with posters saying that someone in a picture looks like someone, then you will need to report it to the proper authorities.

I'll say it again: $#@! Revengeance. This is what Metal Gear is all about, and what I have been expecting. Make sure there's no Raiden in this game and you're golden Hideo.

In regards to the Splinter Cell talk. There's a big difference between the two series. One is fun to play and has an awesome expansive story and history. The other..well...is boring and it's characters forgettable. I'll let you guess which is which.

Fanboys need to stop PRETENDING that MGS4 didn't drag on and on and on more so then past installments with it's over done cutscenes. Did you actually play the game or were you too bosy drooling over the cutscenes. It's a wildly known fact.

It drug on it drug on it drug on. Split screen Raiden/Vamp cutscenes anyone? Yea that was STUPID.

I also very much believe that the game is overly priased (especially on this site) because it's a PS exclusive.

Why doesn't your post surprise me one bit?

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I actually can't wait to see an open world MGS in action. I wonder how the storyline will progress though, seeing that it's apparently not as linear as previous instalments.

I'll say it again: $#@! Revengeance. This is what Metal Gear is all about, and what I have been expecting. Make sure there's no Raiden in this game and you're golden Hideo.

In regards to the Splinter Cell talk. There's a big difference between the two series. One is fun to play and has an awesome expansive story and history. The other..well...is boring and it's characters forgettable. I'll let you guess which is which.

Well, one is firmly rooted in the real world, the other is quite fantastic in its story portrail, but I wouldnt say SC main characters are forgetable, everyone knows who Lambert, Sam or Grim are, everyone knows the fate of Sams daughter, and of Lambert.. Theres is certinaly LESS of them, thats for sure, however.

Well, one is firmly rooted in the real world, the other is quite fantastic in its story portrail, but I wouldnt say SC main characters are forgetable, everyone knows who Lambert, Sam or Grim are, everyone knows the fate of Sams daughter, and of Lambert.. Theres is certinaly LESS of them, thats for sure, however.

Since both games are awesome in my mind, but really different at the same time; I don't see how any fanboy of either series one is greater than the other - as in that they're just too different to compare (apart from the stealth/espionage aspect - and that's basically it).

They each have their own strengths, and I have no problem enjoying them for that.

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ON TOPIC:

I wonder how the open world will be like? If it'll be in one city/regional location; and how big it'll be. I'm guessing this is PS4 stuff though and that it'd be more able (assuming) to accomodate a large open world game whilst being interactive (not static like GTA4).

Well, one is firmly rooted in the real world, the other is quite fantastic in its story portrail, but I wouldnt say SC main characters are forgetable, everyone knows who Lambert, Sam or Grim are, everyone knows the fate of Sams daughter, and of Lambert.. Theres is certinaly LESS of them, thats for sure, however.

Who's Grim? And what happened to Sam's daughters?

Seriously though, never really got into the series as I missed it back in the PS2 days. Only ever played the demo of the very first one.

I wonder how the open world will be like? If it'll be in one city/regional location; and how big it'll be. I'm guessing this is PS4 stuff though and that it'd be more able (assuming) to accomodate a large open world game whilst being interactive (not static like GTA4).

Maybe like the Deus Ex games where you have a couple really large open world levels. I think it was Hideo Kojima that said a while back that he was impressed with some of the gameplay mechanics of Deus Ex: Human Revolution.

Maybe like the Deus Ex games where you have a couple really large open world levels. I think it was Hideo Kojima that said a while back that he was impressed with some of the gameplay mechanics of Deus Ex: Human Revolution.

That makes sense. It would be still be feasible too. Though if they do it Deus Ex:HR style - I'd still like it to be bigger. Maybe x2-4 times larger than Arkham city?

Seriously though, never really got into the series as I missed it back in the PS2 days. Only ever played the demo of the very first one.

Sams daughter? Well it depends which game you most recently played

Originally Posted by admartian

Since both games are awesome in my mind, but really different at the same time; I don't see how any fanboy of either series one is greater than the other - as in that they're just too different to compare (apart from the stealth/espionage aspect - and that's basically it).

They each have their own strengths, and I have no problem enjoying them for that.

Agree, working my way through them, they are most definatley different games.

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ON TOPIC:

I wonder how the open world will be like? If it'll be in one city/regional location; and how big it'll be. I'm guessing this is PS4 stuff though and that it'd be more able (assuming) to accomodate a large open world game whilst being interactive (not static like GTA4).

I've always like the idea of a realtime battle field that you could influence through espionage.

I keep thinking of old games like Gunship, where you got given misisons to do on a standard open battlefield. Success of the misison changed some aspects of the map.

Also, does anyone think this will not be mulitplatform, I just cant see them not doing it on everythign they can.

http://m.computerandvideogames.com/3...e=1#top_banner
Not sure if posted, there is supposedly 2 Snakes
Kojima maybe playing with us, but one Snake has MFS patch (Big Boss) while the other has FOXHOUND (Solid Snake) and there is supposedly a difference in there face
I think the whole NVG thing is hiding something

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