Jesse and Brittany discuss the CSUF event with Michael Shermer, Douglas J. Navarick, and Ryan Nichols and the subsequent podcast and YouTube video, listener emails and voicemails related to Donald Trump’s comments on the phone call with the Gold Star Widow, Myeshia Johnson, John Kelly’s defense of Trump during the press conference, and New York Times’ latest on Bill O’Reilly’s sexual harassment allegations and large payouts.

Jesse and Brittany moderate a discussion between Drs. Michael Shermer, Douglas Navarick, and Ryan Nichols on the question of whether science can be used to determine our moral values of right and wrong. The discussion is divided into opening statements, a period of exchanges among discussants, questions from the live audience, and closing statements.

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