hmm, how is that a stand your ground situation at all? Did the perv start attacking the father? Cause, he's on their property molesting their
daughter, I really don't think stand your ground would even apply to this.

I'm glad the father beat the man to death.

Back to stand your ground, which i still don't think applies....

there was a case not too long ago, maybe even posted here, about a man who shot and killed his neighbor over a noise complaint. The man taunted him
and kept saying stuff like "stop approaching me, I fear for me life" clearly indicating that he felt comfortable murdering the man, because of the
stand your ground law.

This is the issue one must accept with stand your ground. It's going to inflate people into thinking they can get away with things they wouldn't
have otherwise.

Would that guy have murdered someone in their driveway over a noise complaint if not for stand your ground? In that case, it appears no, he was
clearly recording stuff to act as a defense, showing me premeditation.

If I was in a position that had bearing over this father's fate or in deciding the facts of the case I would not be so quick to form an opinion. But
considering the information we do have I have no problem in expressing the opinion I did.

We will wait and see but I have no place in my heart for those that prey on kids. If he did it, he got what was coming to him. If he didn't....then
they sure are trying to discredit this man in the worst way.

Emotions cloud judgements.

Yes it can, but it can also propel us to make hard decisions that pure logic cannot comprehend. Like everything in life we need to have a good mix to
balance out the equation.

Are you claiming that you do not have any emotions? If so, I would be calling you a liar.

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I do have emotions, but i seen too many manipulative strategies used by media and other humans to just jump to conclusion with so little detail.

There are few things that would get you into a killing rage, I can see that this is one those acts that could very easily raise a mans temper above
and beyond a level where it remains controllable.
We are beings with issues, we should spend our lives never baiting others into acts of violence, attacking a four year old child in their own home,
carries with it the risk of righteous intervention.

You make your own choices, punching a man to death, attacking a four year old child, both are wrongs, though, in attacking the child, no one made him
do it, defending your child, especially a father looking out for a very young daughter, you should expect uncontrollable rage.
Would you walk up and slap a 1000pound gorilla with a baseball bat round the chops?, no?, maybe because if you did, you know your going to get your
head caved in.
Similar primevel strengths, emotions, and motivations at work with a father defending his daughter in his own home.

Some people may have been able to call the police and let them deal with it, with such base instincts at work, not everyone would be able to contain
themselves, and as such, if it is as cut and dried as it sounds, then the police have done the right thing.

I do wonder if the guy will live to regret what he did, our conscience can be a real bitch, even if you felt you were acting in good faith at the
time, that still does not stop us regretting things, living with beating a man to death for the rest of your life, if this is normally not in your
nature, could create some issues.

Well, he was coming to the defense of another, but it was also in his own home and the "other" was his daughter. Definitely not a typical SYG case,
but I think that is just semantics. If the prosecutor pressed charges it would still be an
Affirmative Defense, so it would fall under the same guidelines as SYG.

I think this one falls under the defense of "he needed killing". There's not a jury in the world that would convict the father .... and if there's
any way I could be on the jury, I would guarantee it!!

hmm, how is that a stand your ground situation at all? Did the perv start attacking the father? Cause, he's on their property molesting their
daughter, I really don't think stand your ground would even apply to this.

I'm glad the father beat the man to death.

Back to stand your ground, which i still don't think applies....

there was a case not too long ago, maybe even posted here, about a man who shot and killed his neighbor over a noise complaint. The man taunted him
and kept saying stuff like "stop approaching me, I fear for me life" clearly indicating that he felt comfortable murdering the man, because of the
stand your ground law.

This is the issue one must accept with stand your ground. It's going to inflate people into thinking they can get away with things they wouldn't
have otherwise.

Would that guy have murdered someone in their driveway over a noise complaint if not for stand your ground? In that case, it appears no, he was
clearly recording stuff to act as a defense, showing me premeditation.

The child was a minor and he was her father, so the stand your ground extends to protecting her.

How do we know it wasnt the father sexually abusing his daughter and he got caught?

Just murder the witness and claim self defence. After witnessing this i doubt she will ever try to tell anyone.

With the police being the party that is quoted, they were involved and sounded confident in what happened. It was also a gathering of many people, not
just the dad, the daughter and the dead man, so there were most likely witnesses involved.
With the investigation that should come from it, the truth will come out, but it does sound like they are reasonably confident in what happened.

Until I hear otherwise, if the story reported is accurate, the father has my blessing in killing the guy.

The Dad is going to have an uphill legal battle to prove his side of the story, but I have to give my greatest applause for his actions.

This little girl could be scarred from such a violent outcome more so than from the sexual assault, just hope she over comes it all and goes on to
live a well balanced and happy life knowing she was and is protected to the fullest extent of possibility.

I feel that pedophilia is a medical issue since it is a sexual offense and sexual urges are created chemically in the body. The mental status of that
human being needs strong evaluation as well as that persons physical status.

Pedophiles need help not death. Death is so extreme when it comes to issues where these people are obviously over whelmed by their sexual urges and
can not control them selves. Its compulsory. Like kleptomaniacs or people who bite their finger nails. No matter how bad they mentally don't want to,
they physically have no choice.

Its all mind over matter. I think the world should have a pedophile rehab.....

If that does not work I think the next best step would be to put them in cages with gorillas that have an extremely high sex drive..... Paybacks a
bitch lol

The Dad is going to have an uphill legal battle to prove his side of the story, but I have to give my greatest applause for his actions.

Quite the opposite. Dead men tell no lies. First rule of gun safety! (But applies in all self-defense assaults I suppose.

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From what the story says, no charges are pending for the father, he doesn't have to defend his actions at all so far. Even if he did have to defend
them, the burden of proof would be on the state to prove the father was lying. With no other witnesses, only his side of the story gets told, and his
side of the story paints him as a hero.

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