Hockey Widow wrote:Of if they traded us Kadri, Franson and Bozak for Luongo.

It may be a tad premature, but I am looking forward to reminding the tools here in Ontario that they could have had Luongo, but they should just settle down and enjoy five more years of genius management.

Let's see Dreger wipe his coz's jizz off his chin and spin this one into something sugary for the masses here.

With Reimer/Bernier, who the hell needs Luongo? Both were better than him last season and are a decade younger and cheaper.

Gardiner and Franson have yet to prove they can play in the top-4 for an entire year

(I admit I have faith in them, but hey you never know).

Ranger, like I say could flame-out.... or have another meltdown.

If any one of Fraser/Brennan/Holzer are called upon to fill in Top 4 for any length of time they're hooped.

So yeah, they've lost a lot of depth on both offense and defense = a few good injuries: Fuggetaboutit.

GOALTENDING:

They're not going to get better goaltending than they did last season - Bernier or no Bernier.

Reimer/Scrivens were 9th in save percentage (even if it was a fluke in a shortened season).

LUCK FACTOR:

Speaking of fluky and last season, they are not likely to repeat that run of ridiculously good luck.

Worst shot differential in the league?

Horrible possession numbers?

And they STILL make they playoffs??

Being number one in shooting percentage saved them - NOT going to happen again.

Saaaay... you're not some kind of Leaf-loving Leiweke-koolaid-swilling sickoid are ya Darren?

I love how you suddenly overrate all the guys that are gone.

And the goaltending can't get better? LOL. They replaced Scrivens with Bernier.

And shot differential and possession numbers mean so much to you what aboutgoaltending? They made the playoffs last season because they have some of the best goaltending in the NHL. And their PK was terrific. But no, everything is luck, right?

BigTuna wrote:
I love how you suddenly overrate all the guys that are gone.

And the goaltending can't get better? LOL. They replaced Scrivens with Bernier.

And shot differential and possession numbers mean so much to you what aboutgoaltending? They made the playoffs last season because they had some of the best goaltending in the NHL. And their PK was terrific. But no, everything is luck, right?

Their PK was merely decent... apart from great goaltending.

As you say "they had some of the best goaltending in the NHL".

Even the Leaves know that was a fluke, which is why they traded Scrivens/picked up Bernier.

Weird things happen in shortened (read illegitimate) seasons.

Even the Great Strangelove predicted the Leaves would make the playoffs last season.

See, usually the Great Strangelove predicts the Leaves will miss the post-season.

And the Great Strangelove is always right.

So yeah don't get your Leaf-loving hopes too high this year there fishboy.

BigTuna wrote:
I love how you suddenly overrate all the guys that are gone.

And the goaltending can't get better? LOL. They replaced Scrivens with Bernier.

And shot differential and possession numbers mean so much to you what aboutgoaltending? They made the playoffs last season because they had some of the best goaltending in the NHL. And their PK was terrific. But no, everything is luck, right?

Their PK was merely decent... apart from great goaltending.

As you say "they had some of the best goaltending in the NHL".

Even the Leaves know that was a fluke, which is why they traded Scrivens/picked up Bernier.

Weird things happen in shortened (read illegitimate) seasons.

Even the Great Strangelove predicted the Leaves would make the playoffs last season.

See, usually the Great Strangelove predicts the Leaves will miss the post-season.

And the Great Strangelove is always right.

So yeah don't get your Leaf-loving hopes too high this year there fishboy.

Decent? Then why was it second best in the entire NHL?

And Reimer merely posted similar numbers from his rookie season. Hardly a fluke.

Leafs won't be making the playoffs in 13-14. Last season was a fluke. Reimer played over his head and then came back to earth in the playoffs. Team is thin at centre, hanging their hat on Bernier who has no pedigree at this level and they gave David Clarkson a 40 point guy at best the worst contract in the NHL. Don't change Nonis! You fat chunk of shit.

Hockey Widow wrote:Interesting that they didn't use the compliance buyout on JML and the regular buy out on Komisarek. Would have given them a few more bucks and Komisarek had only one year left.

I do think Bernier gives them the "potential" to have very solid goaltending but so much will depend upon them being a better team defensively overall.

If last season was a full 82 game schedule I still don't think they would have made the playoffs though. They will miss Garbo's production.

Grabo was very bad last season. They made the playoffs without his help. This is wishful-thinking on your part.

Why would you even say that since you don't know me? Do you assume that everyone here hates the Leafs or wish for them to fail? Why is it that when someone offers constructive criticism or an honest assessment or opinion you automatically go on the attack? Fine, tell me you don't agree with my opinion but don't analyze why I came to that conclusion by being so dismissive. Awful lot like RD.....hmmmm.

It wouldn't be so bad if you knew the facts but your revisionist history is very telling.

Hockey Widow wrote:
Why would you even say that since you don't know me? Do you assume that everyone here hates the Leafs or wish for them to fail? Why is it that when someone offers constructive criticism or an honest assessment or opinion you automatically go on the attack?

Blob Mckenzie wrote:Leafs won't be making the playoffs in 13-14. Last season was a fluke. Reimer played over his head and then came back to earth in the playoffs. Team is thin at centre, hanging their hat on Bernier who has no pedigree at this level and they gave David Clarkson a 40 point guy at best the worst contract in the NHL. Don't change Nonis! You fat chunk of shit.

$2.9m to Bernier who has played 62 NHL games total in 5 seasons.

$5.2m (x 7 years!) to 29-year-old Clarkson with a career average of .4 points per game.

$3.4m to injury-prone 3rd-liner Bolland (who is only good in the playoffs... which they won't make).

$4.2m (x 5 years) to 57-total-goals-as-a-pro-at-age-27 Bozak.

$3.9m x 3 years still left on contract of washed-up-since-2nd-concussion Liles (shoulda bought him out).

.... and he wonders why he doesn't have any depth or enough cap-space to sign Kadri + Franson!!!

Well at least One Nut Phil will do them the honour of signing @ $8m x 8 now that his buddy Bozo is set.