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I don't even really think that it was the "short throw" comment that threw it off. He never claimed to gain any performance out of it just claimed that the push to shift was quicker. I am still confused about what actually started it.

"you might be able to shift a little faster... but you are still driving an ATX. you will get no performance gains from this mod"

This comment confused me because if he shifts faster with the ATX isnt that what a MTX short throw does? MTX short throws don't add performance gains either just changes the shift point when the gear engages to make the throw between gears quicker.

Now I would have to say that I am a little sceptical on whether or not the throws are quicker on the ATX after this mod since the shift points on the ATX were not changed. It might give the illusion that it is shifting quicker since there is less material (the stick) travling but the shift points were not changed. I guess it is all how you perceive things.

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I told the guy to post a new thread about this. I kinda feel bad cause he is getting some backslash from it. Either way, it's a creative way to change up the interior. As for a shorter throw, it probably is. The STS for the manual are more 'short' cause of the shortness of the shifter shaft. Shift points change but the REAL "Short" part is the height of the shifter.

Anyway, I still think that is a cool mod for the ATX brothers out there. [thumb]

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For real S2 people on here think they are car gods. I mean WTF why bash someone for what they did, like or are going to do. I will be doing this personally when i get the time and tools. I did this to an old escort bout ten years ago and i think it helps the interior look better. Mother******ers need to stop hating on this and everyone else here. It was a good idea PZEV05ZTW thanks for the info man.

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For real S2 people on here think they are car gods. I mean WTF why bash someone for what they did, like or are going to do. I will be doing this personally when i get the time and tools. I did this to an old escort bout ten years ago and i think it helps the interior look better. Mother******ers need to stop hating on this and everyone else here. It was a good idea PZEV05ZTW thanks for the info man.

I just feel bad about it, seriously I TOLD him to post a new thread so that others with the ATX can see and know that there is another 'option' of the very few available to change up the shifter. I had zero idea that it would have come off like this.

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I really hope he's not talking about shifting through the gears manually as in throwing it down in 1, then to 2, then D. Keep that up and have fun buying a new tranny. You'll melt the clutch plates to the gears.

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For real S2 people on here think they are car gods. I mean WTF why bash someone for what they did, like or are going to do. I will be doing this personally when i get the time and tools. I did this to an old escort bout ten years ago and i think it helps the interior look better. Mother******ers need to stop hating on this and everyone else here. It was a good idea PZEV05ZTW thanks for the info man.

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I think it's more of a 'bashing someone's idea' thing there Urn. I read your post and yeah it is pointless as far as a performance issue goes but as a cosmetic change to the very limited things you can actually do with a ATX shifter, it's a really cool idea IMO.

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I think it's more of a 'bashing someone's idea' thing there Urn. I read your post and yeah it is pointless as far as a performance issue goes but as a cosmetic change to the very limited things you can actually do with a ATX shifter, it's a really cool idea IMO.

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geez let it go, he did it, he is enjoying it, let it go. Haters S T F U, You are not in his car, you don't own it, so why do u care? if you don't like it, great. just don't tear it to threads becuz u don't like it. The kid thought it was a good idea and shared it with u guys. why bitch?

alright now i know that it does not gain any performance. On a technicality, it is shorter throw, the fact is the thing is shorter and it is indeed easier and more accurate way to shift. Whether you wanna argue that or not, be it as so. As far for the performance benefits, i know there shouldn't be any. so there, thats that, quit bickering on this. Its like this thread is full of 3 year olds

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please tell me where i said i dont like it? if i remember correctly, each and every post i have made in this thread i have stated it looks cool. (i believe this is the seventh time, for those of you keeping score at home)

i simply pointed out the fact that there is no performance gains. and that point the thread starter stated that "nope see your wrong i thought the same till i shifted it threw the gears manually ... quicker and eassier push shorter for the shifter to go!"

while you may be able to move the stick a little faster. it is still an ATX. there are no performance gains from this mod.

i would love to quit bickering about this, as you suggest. but as long as i am attacked, i will defend myself.

if you have a problem with any of the posts in this thread, there is this nice little link on every single post that says "report this post to a moderator." if you dont want to utilize that link. then **** off.

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please tell me where i said i dont like it? if i remember correctly, each and every post i have made in this thread i have stated it looks cool. (i believe this is the seventh time, for those of you keeping score at home)

i simply pointed out the fact that there is no performance gains. and that point the thread starter stated that "nope see your wrong i thought the same till i shifted it threw the gears manually ... quicker and eassier push shorter for the shifter to go!"

while you may be able to move the stick a little faster. it is still an ATX. there are no performance gains from this mod.

i would love to quit bickering about this, as you suggest. but as long as i am attacked, i will defend myself.

if you have a problem with any of the posts in this thread, there is this nice little link on every single post that says "report this post to a moderator." if you dont want to utilize that link. then **** off.

You just contradicted yourself, you said it may move a little faster, but no performance...well..isnt that what my short shifter does, move a little faster...if its more comfortable for him to drive the car that way, then, in a sense, it is better performance, because he is tailoring the car to his driving style. Leave the automatic trans thing out for a second, the mentality around here that people with ATX are slow pokes that don't know anything is the most bullshit thing ive ever heard, and ive never experienced it on any other car forums. He likes it, makes it easier for him to get through the gears = performance for him..

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