Somewittyname did not let that record stand. Please go to the Camp Update from Sam Webb thread and Neg if you haven't already.

EDIT: As of 12:50pm on Sunday, the results are as follows:

Total Negs

4,621

Total Posts

37

Neg Average

125

Neg High

259

The table only takes into account Negs in the Camp Update thread.

It is important to note that this poster began their spree with over 4,400 points and is currently -1,397. We can assume this poster accumulated roughly 5,800 Negs over the course of 18 hours.

The Mods may need to confirm this, but have we ever witnessed an OP that has a negative point total? someshittyname created a post (which can be negged here) comparing last year's starters versus this year's projected starters. It's hilarious to me to see that negative point total in an OP. Nice job.

I'm not counting upvotes. Strictly Negs. Thank you stephenrjking for pointing out the current total in the HoF.

JBB (who couldn't cut it last year) was thought to be in a dogfight with Runyan. Everyone was already a bit worried. You can pretend otherwise but your overlord has said it's a spot of concern. Now we ffnd Ulizio, pretty much another Runyan type prospect, is also competing for starting RT, which to me makes me worried about about the spot.

Mgoboard responds that this is fantastic news and how dare I have concerns about the OL.

I then defend myself and people don't like the way in which I do it.

That's okay though. I only am concerned with being right, which seems to be something most people no longer care about. I believe this. I believe that. Well I don't believe anything. I only look at the data in front of me.

You still have not provided an actual argument. Everyone knows RT is a concern and has since last season ended. Not one person is saying it's not, but you keep lashing yourself to this "keeping it realz" cross anyway.

Two guys were fighting for a job. A third has emerged, potentially. Three is better than two because it can mean there is another player the coaches like there, for depth. This is very important because there is very little depth at tackle.

Okay so to sum everything up, we all agree RT is a concern and Ulizio getting a mention has about 0% impact on the prospects for the season. Wish we could have left it at that but I'm not about to let an easy argument die for the sake of catering to unreleastic propositions.

So you have no argument. Which is what everyone understood. It would have been fine, everyone would have been like "I don't get what this guy is saying but whatevs" and moved to the next comment. But your tone and repeated entreaties of "listen to my argument" when there was none is the reason for the negs.

Bodeezy, as a betting man I would think you can look at things objectively. The right side of the line is our weakest point on paper other than secondary. I don't need to tell you this. You know this.Please feel free to hit the down button if you agree.

...your original point regarding Ulizio it was he was a low three star (two star?) recruit. No argument with that. You the go on to imply that being so rated he will never be anything better than meh as a tackle. So, taking your reasoning a step further it means good coaching can not improve a player. It means a player can not significantly improve himself after the age of 18. As a counter argument I will mention two specific players: David DeCastro, two star OT for Harbaugh who became a first round draft choice, and Darqueze Dennard, two star recruit at MSU who became a first round draft choice. This is NOT an argument that Ulizio will become DeCastro or even to close to it. It is an argument that it is foolish to write anyone off who works hard, receives good coaching and believes in himself.

You could also mention the offensive linemen that Frey has developed: Omameh at UM and Jason Spriggs and Dan Feeney at IU. There's no question in my mind that Frey is the best OL coach in college football. He will get every ounce of performance out of his guys.

As a side note, is this the first time someone has self-deported to Bolivia?

I admire your tenacity. And fwiw, I don't think your comments were so far into left field as it seems from the bashing you took (which I didn't contribute to). This place is becoming (has become)... different.

99% of us on this board have no idea if this is good news or bad news. What we do know is that the o-line was and has not been great for a few years. So, in my opinion, the more guys fighting for the starting RT spot the better.
Let us not forget that these guys are allowed to improve from year to year. Some 3* guys will end up playing like 5* guys. This goes the other way also. This argument should have nothing to do with Ulizio being mentioned as a potential starter. This is about finding the best guys 5 guys who fit what the coaches are trying to do offensively. After all, Michigan does have a new OT and TE coach to go along with a new passing game coordinator.

That was my favorite part of his alleged argument, that he's (she's?) relying on data. The only data she has is that Ulizio was a low 3 star recruit. Is it a possibility Ulizio not very good and it's a bad sign that he's in the mix to start? Yes. But somewittyname acts like it's an absolute certainty.

It's real simple, he was the composite #1295 ranked recruit so this poster immediately put him in the "wasted scholarship" bucket when he committed. So now when he's mentioned as fighting for the RT job he can't get his/her mind around the idea. Star-fugger....

So, if I'm hearing this right somewittyname is saying that because no one has taken the job with certainty that means it's a problem? And, the rest of the board is saying well, we know it's a problem already, but more viable options are a good thing?

This seems to me like the glass is half full versus the glass is half empty. You're saying the same thing, but one side chooses to focus on the bright side whereas the other chooses to focus on the problem.

I don't even think I saw that argument from swm. Only that Ulizio getting snaps with the 1's is bad.

It would be great if JBB came into this camp and took the job and generated positive chatter from coaches and players, or Runyan, or Steuber/Filiaga. But through 3 weeks the freshmen have generated almost no chatter. Predictably in my mind, given they're freshman. So it was down to JBB and Runyan. Neither have seized the job so far. Probably not great. RT still a concern, nothing new there.

Now Ulizio has earned some time with the 1's. That's good for depth, and you've added a third body to the competition. This is good. If the argument is "I'd rather hear JBB/Runyan has locked down the job and is playing great", well of course, everyone would. But that's a wish for something that hasn't happened, not a comment on whether Ulizio getting snaps is good.

but I've never once in person, in an email, text, or in social media post heard/seen a woman use the term "bruh." It's a particularly male usage. Asked my wife about it, and she's never heard a woman using that term, either.

The dogged aggressiveness in stating, restating, and re-restating his position is also a very typically male form of argumentation. That's not to say no women do it, but it's atypical, at least in my six+ decades of experience.

On top of that, his posts previously at MGoBlog indicate a high level of devotion to sports-related minutiae, which is much more typical of male sports fans. Again, this is not to say that no women have the same level of detail-oriented interest, but it's uncommon.

All these things taken together lead me to believe she's a he. Doesn't matter one way or another anyhow; whoever it is, they're a bit goofy.

Read the thread you linked. It's not that I didn't believe Speight was #1...for some reason I just didn't like how he presented the info. At the time he wasn't known by everyone and he just stated it as fact without much context.

I was wrong, I've said this over and over...but it wasn't the info. My whole schtick was how it was presented. Which may be worse - I dunno.

Edit: Sidenote, I'm happy to lose the belt...but not to that piece of shit. Let it be to someone just on a drunken troll mission to destroy MGoBlog in one single night. Not someone who wakes up the next morning still being a dick to anyone and everyone.

The guideline has always been that prisoners can be exchanged, but the only prerequisite is that beer and restaurant coupons must be involved in the exchange. Given that there are occasional disruptions to the liquor supply and the dining can get a little pricey in Bolivia, we do try to incentivize tourism as well as clear out the rehabilition centers on occasion.

The thing that sucks is that post (as well as the umbig11 post from last year) had so much potential for an actual healthy football conversation with the season so close we can taste it. But instead one guy ruins it and it turns into a roast session

If I read the mgoblog 3 post correctly, we would be able to just collapse his/her reply (and subsequent responses) and view the thread as of it wasn't there. Will be a great feature for the reasons you describe.

To be fair to MrYost, his gripe was more he didn't like how UMbig11 "didn't present his info properly" enough or something like that, not that he didn't believe it . But hey , I negged him in that thread too just for the fun of it but just giving his side .

I feel like his neg potential is so high bc of multiple posts (people can go through and down vote all of his posts in the thread). Was this the case with Mr. Yost? What is the record for single post neg count?

As of 7:50am I believe it is getting close to 4,000 and counting. Everytime I refresh, "his/her" point total goes down in chunks. I believe he/she started around 4,500 points last night (mentioned by someone toward the bottom of the other thread). Point total was at 1,085 when I logged on this morning around 6:15am and now is in the 600's and still going down. Quite impressive! I wouldn't be surprised if he/she loses all points by the time I eat breakfast.

Astonishing neg numbers coming in late. Has the AP called the race yet? I saw things moving early this evening and thought there was reasonable meltdown potential, but I had no idea things would get this out of hand.

Idk. I think it's all pretty stupid on somewittyname's end. He had well over 3,000 points so obviously he contributed content at some point that alot of people appreciated. Maybe he's a troll and should be sent to Bolivia. Or we could just ignore his posts. He should just stop drinking and go to bed but doesn't seem like his style.

Appreciate the thought. But I haven't attacked a single person. I've done nothing but state objective thoughts. Literally---go read every single one. Not a single one is anything other than voicing my own opinion. Now I guess if feeling skeptical about RT is banworthy, then ok, I understand. Harbaugh is my lord and I shall not doubt and what not.

Here's how I feel about someone suggesting Ulizio in competition for starting RT is a good thing, "whatever you have tell yourself." If that makes me a dick, then fine man. That's okay. I'd rather be a dick and be right than be "positive" and be wrong. These days there's way too little respect for objectivity and facts and way too much for feelingsball, as brain would say.

Fwiw, I don't think you're being a dick with the exception of your Mitch C. comment. But there isn't objectivity and fact in your arguments any more than those opposed.

You're providing a take on something none of us really have any certainty on. It's reasonable to think Ulizio, as a scholarship athlete should or could be developing as a potential RT. Doesn't mean he will be. You're identifying concern this is problematic and speaks less well of the incumbent candidates. Neither of those takes are objective and require both sides to make some assumptions. Feelingsball to a degree both ways.

Typical of people like yourself, you constantly conflate your own opinion with "facts" and "truth."

There's nothing wrong about having the opinion that Ulizio getting time with the 1s does not augur well for the RT spot. It's entirely possible that your concerns will be borne out.

However, at this time you cannot prove—nor can anyone else—that Nolan Ulizio isn't going to be a positive addition at RT. We have to wait to see what transpires in the rest of fall practice, and in game situations if/when he does play.

It's your assertion that you alone possess "data" and "facts" and then climbing up on the cross of supposed truth-telling, nailing yourself to it, and then moaning "Forgive them, Father, the idiot, sheep-like MGoBlog masses refuse to respect my objectivity and wisdom" for the next several hours that kicked things off.

Is it not possible, and for the record you're one of like five other posters I respect, that I could be saying something that is ultimately true but ruffles feathers and then it's gets fun to neg and neg and neg? Sure I don't have to be such a dick, but unless someone can make one single convincing argument that Ulizio competing at RT is a good sign for our team, I'll continue to argue my point. I mean, this is the internet? What do I have to lose but to argue my point?

It's fine to have a dissenting opinion, and I definitely don't think you deserve to be Bolivia'd for thinking a certain player getting first team reps is bad news. You could have left it at your first couple posts instead of choosing this as your hill to die on, though.

it is not fine to have a dissenting opinion here. even if presented logically and non dickishly, someone anyways throws a fit and either gets shit started or makes shitty comments back. this place is not for civil disagreements.

Sometimes you just gotta learn how to let it go. Nobody actually cares at this point if you're right or wrong. They just want to see if you can figure out when to shut the fuck up. Which, obviously, you can't. [And for the record I think the addition of Ulizio to the RT mix is ambiguous / weak information in either direction]

I understand that I just look at it through my eyes. I work two jobs and still check MGOBLOG daily, but don't have the time to constantly post to get points. To me, it just seemed having a few thousand points, that at some points he may have added constructive points to the board to get upvoted. I'm sorry if I came across as not realizing he could get points without posting constructive content, I was just looking at it from my perspective. As I mentioned in my replies to his comments, I do not agree with his points of view. Accusing someone of sleeping with 15 year olds is never ok in my eyes. To make humor out of something that is that awful, especially seeing what happened at PSU, is not ok.

Jmbeezy, I bet my point to post ratio was higher than yours until tonight. I just don't post that much generally. You give us that typical 40 year old man outlook, which is fine sometimes but not terribly insightful. You follow basketball but don't really know the game like the folks at umhoops. You're kinda just this old fart wanderer who really should just join the Victors board, or maybe Board 5. Maybe you're already there. I'm no better.

LSA - he's not personally attacking anyone. He's just spewing the cold hard facts and none of us sheeple can recognize. He's the only objective person in the world left, anyone that can't see that is a soft pansy. Duh.

It has truly been a beautiful thing to behold. Screw the eclipse, I'm glad I was here to witness a multi thread -1,000 negbang. Now if only the blog could offer up a -9,000. I know, I know, that's impossible..

Mr. Yost is still first in my heart because he genuinely had a meltdown. This guy had maybe one or two legitimate dick posts then decided to just go full troll with it. His posts in this thread are pretty much proof of that.

I agree. The Mr. Yost meltdown was high art engaged in by an otherwise respected contributor to the board. Every Yost post was a well-crafted masterpiece of misplaced antagonism, a symphony of unrighteous indignation. It was an elegant singularity of Neg.

Even Maizen's follow-up effort was an energetic rampage with its own peculiar beauty.

This is more like a troll session whose protagonist is a 17-year-old who keeps playing the same three chords on his Epiphone guitar with the $50 Amp's gain turned up to 10. Noisy, yes, but aesthetically dull.

Ha Ha! to Jack Daniels. I haven't gone near the stuff in almost 18 years as during my freshman year of college my roommate and I decided to conduct an experiment in alcohol and Mike Tyson's punchout. When we started, we of course were killing Glass Joe and the rest of the contenders. After killing a 5th of Jack, we were getting TKO'd by Glass Joe and couldn't figure out how he had gotten so fast.

Yes. We're all totally the ones acting like children. I have a 6 year old. When he sees something is annoying to his sister he keeps it up until she goes off, and then he laughs for soliciting a response from her. I'm not saying you're a 6 year old, just that the behavior is uncanningly similar.

I have up voted you like 15 times somewittyname. I feel where you're coming from. However this is a message board of fans. To be a "fan" means you are suspending some part of rationale in order to be optimistic about some arbitrary game. Pointing this out causes pain. People react. Negbang commence

that is not why people are downvoting. There has been disagreements on Mgoblog before. However, when people brought up reasons why Nolan Ulizio at RT wouldnt be a disaster, he responds with " lol whatever helps you sleep at night" instead of actually engaging in a discussion. Magnus can be perceived as negative, but he actually gives rationale for his predictions.

Yes, that's part of being a part of any kind of blog, you typicaly share common opinions / hopes.I guess it depends on your level of fandon, but yes, some on this board are probably just blind loyalist's and that every year they believe we'll believe undefeated, just like there's other parts of the board that believe that we'll do anything from not win a game to win a national championship. That's what makes blogs fun that at the end of the day, outside of trolls, you're atleast all fans of the same team even if you have different outlooks. My issue with swn is when he brings in stupid / naive comments about loving teenagers. I have a sibling that was affected by that situation, so to joke about, especially given what happened at PSU, is a very immature,irrational, and un-informed comment.

As dickish as somewittyusername is, I actually share their concern. The current bar for RT we have is JBB's play from last year. That's not a high bar, and I personally don't expect his play to improve that drastically in one offseason.

Currently he's in a battle to start at RT. That doesn't seem great to me. Now we have Ulizio jumping in the competition. I don't buy that as an inherently good thing. It could be, but to me it seems more likely that RT is a problem position, that neither JBB or Runyan have played well enough, and now Ulizio's getting a shot because why not.

I could be very wrong, and I hope I am. But I don't thiink that's an unreasonable take to have. Obviously somewittyusername was a dick about it so negs are deserved, but the overall concern I share.

RT is a problem position, full stop. It's hard for me to believe anyone was not aware of that before tonight if you frequent mgoblog.

JBB was OK in one half vs Wisconsin and bad against Rutgers. That's very little to go on. We know almost nothing about Runyan or Ulizio. Before tonight, it was a 2 man battle at RT. Now.perhaps there is a third man, given he's being given some very valuable time with the 1's. The argument is that this is good for depth, having this third guy.

What's the worry? That JBB and Runyan have been bad and they're grasping at straws? Could be. But I doubt JBB has regressed from last year. If we peg his probable play as bad, and Ulizio passes him, then he must be less-bad and also beaten out Runyan. And now all of a sudden there's a 3 deep. It's not a great 3 deep, but it's better than a not a great 2 deep.

That's worst case. Best case is both JBB and Runyan improved, and Ulizio is passing them. I don't think that's likely, but that would upgrade the potential at the position substantially.

Either scenario brings depth. Where does your concern lie? If it's just with the position overall, everybody agrees with you. What is your concern with Ulizio getting first team reps?

I understand the concern that he's in the conversation, given he wasn't a highly ranked recruit and it's a position of concern. That being said, the coaches recruit these players for a reason and are looking for a specific type of player they can develop. Most years you see lineman that weren't necessarily highly ranked guys in terms of recruiting but coaching developed them and turned them into NFL players. That's one of the things that Frey was noted for. If I'm not mistaken, Ulizio's knock wasn't that he didn't have the size or athleticism, but he needed to develop. Enter great coaches like Frey and Drevno, and if they developed him enough to be in the conversation, worse case it gives the line depth.

It's officially Sunday morning EST and I'm having way too much fun with this. Love a good meltdown. And statistics. This is the perfect marriage between the two. Also her two top posts are at 154 and 152 negs respectively. That's insane.

Nice. Can't believe what sort of positive upvote ratio I had to counterbalance all of this. Crazy how rational thought works I guess. Only in certain instances though I suppose. Sometimes the will of people override truth for the sake of what they like. Pretty common these days.

I'm actually gonna go to sleep now, but I'm really excited to check back in the morning to see if you've somehow hit negative points. That'd be excellent. Just so you know how much i care. Legit excited about it. Like, going to bed before a big vacation sort of excited. Not sure how on earth I'll actually sleep (/s).

Dug this up from SWN's comment history. In reference to Jean Delance transferring (a thread she started) : "Could also be a red flag. I'm definitely not saying I wouldn't want him competing with JBB and Runyan though. The more the merrier." LOL WUT?!

It's hard for me to constrain my thoughts to the dimensions of your own, so I can't quite see how this post would be anything remotely surprising? I lthink RT is a question mark and although Delance may or may not have issues of his own it wouldn't hurt to have him on board. Come on man, you're reaching. Really reaching.

So you'd rather have a guy who can't play this year for us due to transfer rules over a guy who seems to be proving himself in fall practice to people that know what the hell they're looking at? Delance has to sit a year, so he's not competing with them this season. You've written off someone who hasn't even seen the field yet based on another player seeing the field and not looking great last year. All you can go off of is recruiting rankings, which seems to be why you want Delance even though it could be a red flag he's leaving UT. Rankings are not the end-all. Especially on the o-line. Just stop. You're not making sense. You've dug your hole well beyond the requisite 6 feet.

He's not, except that it's August 20, and his name is just popping up now for RT. Jean Delance, as you probably figured is not on our team. So, here we are with a questionable RT situation and only mgoboreders are not concerned. Why are they not concerned? Because according to the only coherent argument I've heard so far, Harbaugh had good OLs at Stanford.

Given that this is a competitive bunch, can we count on an attempt to overtake this record every August? Might as well make it a fun and entertaining competition to see how low onecan go before their one way (?) trip to Bolivia. I hear La Paz gets kind of cold at night in mid-August, might be a place to beat the summer heat of A2......

Even in the best of times, MGoBlog is a large pack of fractious, jumpy mongrels with hair-trigger tempers.

But by mid-summer, the pack's nervousness and impatience ratchets up the tension to extremely high levels, and what would normally be minor disagreements over a scrap of discarded and moldy Zingerman's sandwich turn into snarling, pack-wide free-for-alls that result in bloody ears, torn noses, and wounded pride. Some quietly leave, unable to bear the insult.

Things will really come to a head in late August when some cur will persist in trying to defend that last morsel of rotting pastrami, and the entire pack will gleefully turn on it, recognizing an opportunity to expend some of its nervous tension before the first kick-off.

Mr. Yost's meltdown last year was August 27. It's no coincidence that we're basically at the same exact point in the cycle now.

Based on the continually kicking of the hive, I am wondering if our "friend" is:
1. Having some sort of crisis
2. Had someone pranking them by using their account
3. Needs to sober up from their bender
4. Is truly that big of a jack wagon.