Keeping Menubar in Fullscreen

Anyway to keep the menubar in fullscreen? Its horribly slow-not consistent to get it back by moving mouse up...same with the dock. Also, I am having a lot of trouble getting show desktop to work with the thumb+3 finger spread gesture. Just me or a problem?

The whole point of full-screen is to get rid of distractions like the menu bar and dock. If you want those easily accessible then don't go into full-screen.

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It should be a choice...this is why most hate Apple. Steve changes things and doesnt give us options to do what we want. Until I can get fullscreen with menubar and/or dock I will go back to using Cinch. Just like the gestures, only selectable for a few and then force these stupidly awkward ones onto us.

It should be a choice...this is why most hate Apple. Steve changes things and doesnt give us options to do what we want. Until I can get fullscreen with menubar and/or dock I will go back to using Cinch. Just like the gestures, only selectable for a few and then force these stupidly awkward ones onto us.

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It is a choice, don't go into full-screen mode. If you need all of these things visible in full-screen mode then you don't need full-screen mode to begin with.

It is a choice, don't go into full-screen mode. If you need all of these things visible in full-screen mode then you don't need full-screen mode to begin with.

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I dont see how the menubar is a distraction at all, it takes like 5% of the screen?...maybe you need to re-evaluate your situation. Dock isnt important but atleast when I move the mouse there it should come up immediately, not require me to play around.

I dont see how the menubar is a distraction at all, it takes like 5% of the screen?...maybe you need to re-evaluate your situation. Dock isnt important but atleast when I move the mouse there it should come up immediately, not require me to play around.

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It comes up fine for me without any playing around. Maybe you need to re-evaluate what is causing this problem for you on your system.

It should be a choice...this is why most hate Apple. Steve changes things and doesnt give us options to do what we want. Until I can get fullscreen with menubar and/or dock I will go back to using Cinch. Just like the gestures, only selectable for a few and then force these stupidly awkward ones onto us.

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What exactly did "Steve" change? You can continue to use the zoom button or resize manually without affecting the visibility of the dock or menubar. What you are asking for is something like the maximize button in Windows, but OS X has never had one. Nothing is being taken away from you.

I'm using a Magic Trackpad with my '08 MacBook. I have never used clamshell mode, but have certainly thought of it if I ever get a nice external display. If this is what you are using maybe it has something to do with your problem of having to play around for the menu bar to come up. Maybe somebody else with the same setup can chime in and give some feedback.

Couldn't really tell you as I rarely use it. I use Safari almost exclusively as Chrome kicks my cpu fan into high gear for some reason as soon as I open it. Other than that I haven't experienced anything bad like crashes when using the Chrome 13 beta.

You can adjust this on a per-app basis by editing the plist. My memory is rusty but here are instructions, if I remember correctly.

Show package contents for the app you want
Edit the file Contents/info.plist
Search for "LSUIPresentationMode" (you may want to use a plist editor). It will look like this if you use a regular text editor:
<key>LSUIPresentationMode</key> <integer>4</integer>

If the property does not exist, then you can create it - it must be inserted in the correct alphabetical order.

Change the value of the integer accordingly:
LSUI PresentationMode 0 - Does not hide Dock or Menu Bar.

LSUIPresentationMode 1 - Hides Dock. Dock will appear if mouse moved to where it is located. Menu Bar will remain.

LSUIPresentationMode 2 - Removes Dock. Menu Bar will remain.

LSUIPresentationMode 3 - Removes Menu Bar and Dock.

LSUIPresentationMode 4 - Hides Menu Bar and Dock. Menu Bar or Dock will appear if mouse moved to where Menu Bar or Dock is located.

Thanks dancolman for the SHIFT + Green Plus trick. I appreciate your response to the question. I don't appreciate posts on a question like this:

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It is a choice, don't go into full-screen mode. If you need all of these things visible in full-screen mode then you don't need full-screen mode to begin with.

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The whole point of full-screen is to get rid of distractions like the menu bar and dock. If you want those easily accessible then don't go into full-screen.

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I just bought my first Apple computer since my Apple 2 Plus in 1984. There are many things that Windows has figured out that make computing more pleasant and vice versa with Apple. If someone needs to maximize their window and maintain the menu bar because they compute more efficiently that way and it's just smarter sometimes to have a similar basic feature to MS Windows, they should be able to do that.

If they want to go full-screen and lose the menu bar, they should be able to do that as well. If your opinion is to give pompous responses about how "you" think things should be then it's my opinion to prefer answers like dancolman's to your's sir.

Anyway to keep the menubar in fullscreen? Its horribly slow-not consistent to get it back by moving mouse up...same with the dock. Also, I am having a lot of trouble getting show desktop to work with the thumb+3 finger spread gesture. Just me or a problem?

Press and hold ALT/OPTION key while clicking on the green full screen button, it will maximise the window and not take it to full screen.

It should be a choice...this is why most hate Apple. Steve changes things and doesnt give us options to do what we want. Until I can get fullscreen with menubar and/or dock I will go back to using Cinch. Just like the gestures, only selectable for a few and then force these stupidly awkward ones onto us.

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I agree with you. We're now on El Capitan, and I've been requesting this feature/option since they introduced full screen apps. I like working in fullscreen mode, but I'd like the option to always the see items on my menu bar—battery level, day/tie, app menu bar, etc.—without having to move my mouse up to the top of the screen.

I agree with you. We're now on El Capitan, and I've been requesting this feature/option since they introduced full screen apps. I like working in fullscreen mode, but I'd like the option to always the see items on my menu bar—battery level, day/tie, app menu bar, etc.—without having to move my mouse up to the top of the screen.

I would think it would be an easy option to implement.

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I've been hunting this down because I want to use fullscreen mode to reduce distractions - but whenever I move my mouse to use something near the top of the screen (I'm in Chrome) the menu bar pushes the top of the chrome address bar down, and when I go down to click on what it just pushed down it pulls it back up and I inevitably click on a bookmark in the address bar. Would love the option to prevent the menu bar from showing up. And now you can't even click on the expand button to fill the screen, so if you want to have a full screen app without losing the menu bar you have to manually move it into position and drag it to fill the screen. Very annoying.

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