Hello. I just wanted to let you know that I have grantedautopatrol rights to your account; the reason for this is that I believe you are sufficiently trustworthy and experienced to have your contributions automatically sighted. This will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to help users watching Recent changes or Recent uploads to find unproductive edits amidst the productive ones. Thank you. INeverCry 21:54, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

I’m not 100% sure how the ongoing debates about the role of "q" and about "SPL" will end, but I’m very sure that going around renaming each other’s experimental filenaming without discussion (or, as in this case, in spite of ongoing discussion) is not the proper way of reaching consensus. -- Tuválkin✉ 22:32, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I was unaware that the question is not settled yet, just though that since you re-uploaded the 99CCFF one later than the yellow one, that was the final choice. YLSS (talk) 22:37, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

I reuploaded (vSPLl 99CCFF) with the same name because Useddenim had renamed it before (from an obviously wrong name) because I don’t force my naming views on others like that. That’s why I don’t like it when others do it to me. Lets settle the matters about "q" and about "SPL", first, then lets rename it all as needed. -- Tuválkin✉ 22:57, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

I was just unable to find a discussion fresher than a year old. That said, I do not favour "q" or "l" or anything in the least, I'm utterly afraid of those parallel lines and have no intention of entering related discussions! YLSS (talk) 23:04, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Those discussions seem to be stalled, yes. But these kind of things some times suddenly flare up and old blocked isses find a fast solution — just like the matter of other colors. We’ll see. For what’s worth, is what I’d call SPLl. (I have no preference for SPL over vSPL, other than that consistency should be attained in the final convention — they both seem to mean the same, given the meaning of SPL.) -- Tuválkin✉ 23:16, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately there is no easy means to rename BSicon files due to the means that they are embedded within the corresponding templates. The attached pages at the wikis will need to be updated to the preferred filename prior to the deletion of the duplicate file. Alternatively, just leave it is currently. — billinghurstsDrewth 12:19, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

I repeat that you will need to manually update any BSicon file name changes, the bots cannot achieve it. Further we cannot undertake a file move where the filename is in use. — billinghurstsDrewth 14:10, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Someone in Chinese WP reported that the utSTRlf and uextSTRlf icon shows mysterious line in the file description page preview images. So what I did is to add more xmlns definitions in the beginning of the SVG element. But I am not confident if that actually fixed the problem because while the top preview in the file description page looks fine, hours ago that mysterious line appeared in my version in the upload history preview. This is a long standing glitch of MediaWiki's SVG-to-PNG renderer. Random line pops up randomly at random image scale so there's not much we can do to prevent that. As long as the icon looks OK at 20px high, all fine. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 11:39, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

I don't reply you in the project talk page because this is not related to my topic. The transfer station nodes of Russian metro maps in Russian Wikipedia (e.g. ru:Шаблон:Сокольническая линия) is confusing to visually impaired reader. They (or "you") didn't use the number icon like in English Wikipedia. But since you have said that "the blue colour (instead of red) and by the peculiar INT stations; DSTs, on the other hand, are more intuitive", I want to know how that is related to the differentiation between DST and INT. Do you mean you think we should modify the shape of INT instead of DST or the INT set should have not been created at all? It puzzles me. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 06:56, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Well, I don't say that something shouldn't have been created at all, I just wouldn't use INTs myself, because I find the concept quite puzzling: first we have a plain station without a transfer and visualise it with a filled circle (BHF), and then we have another station that does not differ from the first except for the fact that another station on another line has been built next to it, with e.g. a transfer passage; however, we mark it with a 1) black and 2) empty circle (INT)... Various HUBs, CPICs, BHF-Ls represent the situation better, IMHO. Visually impaired readers (and others as well) can possibly use hovering/clicking on the station in order to find out what line it is on. That said, I'm all for using e.g. 6 in the text field in addition to the HUBs in the diagram. YLSS (talk) 07:14, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Axpde at his best. Actually, the whole expansion of lBHF/lHST sets that I undertook was not concerned with stations, but rather with basins in canals. I could've uploaded only the "u" variants, but decided to make the "bahn" icons just in case - it's very easy to change one RGB code. As for the result, see ru:User:YLSS/Sandbox; maybe one day I'll finish it... YLSS (talk) 07:35, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Personally, I would have left the icons be but omit them from the catalogue, but que sera, sera. Useddenim (talk) 23:57, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello! About this edit, I don’t mind at all, and I thank you. Indeed, I consider that user pages should not be exempted from trivial fixes like this, as they are supposed to be also somwhat part of the project. When updated changed names, I only avoid those who are ovbiously abbandoned, and those about naming where old names are important (but also for non-user talk pages about icons). But I had to undo your change from (CUT-L) to (CUTL), because it is still not renamed yet. -- Tuválkin✉ 13:32, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

OMG... I already forget which icons to update and which not to... YLSS (talk) 13:49, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

I can't say that I'm happy with Category:Icons for railway descriptions/parallel lines/single line or its implementation. In most cases, it just hides some files that are expected to be in the parent category (as the things stand now). If properly implemented, any single subcategory of Category:Icons for railway descriptions/parallel railways should have a subcategory with "single lines" - even the smallest one. Seeing that there are quite enough other criteria for breaking up (if needed, more can be introduced for particular geometries), it does not really serve it purpose of structuring BSicons. The icons you are talking about should have rather been placed into *Category:Icons for railway descriptions/set u/parallel lines/straight/single line and removed from Category:Icons for railway descriptions/set u/parallel lines/straight - but the latter, if needed, should be better separated into straights with arrows, straight with dams/cuts etc. I do not go around removing "single lines" from red icons, since ultimately there are plans to migrate to Category:BSicon, but I'm against introducing it into the set "u". YLSS (talk) 06:22, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Ok. And where is the discussion about migrating categories of BS Icons? I feel like bringing some help I needed.--Akiry (talk) 10:09, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

This is a MediaWiki lag following a file move. Unfortunately, nothing can be done as yet. The image will be back to normal after a couple of days, so we just have to wait. YLSS (talk) 23:05, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

There is a way to fix it immediately by changing the display dimension differently such as 250 by 250 px. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 01:07, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

What do you mean? For me, if I change them in the URL of the thumbnail, the "new" thumb will show a new design; but if some thumbnail was heavily used, like 20px and sometimes 120px, it may show the older design - or just nothing - for a couple of days. YLSS (talk) 05:53, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Trust me, the same bug happened to me on different SVG files. I waited like months and the problem didn't get solved magically until I changed the width of the SVG element (retaining the viewBox values) and re-upload it. This method exactly forces Wikimedia to abandon the thumbnails of older version and re-generate new thumbnail. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 06:36, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Ah, you mean to change the code... Seems like quite a brutal solution. Still, if I encounter such a prolonged issue, I'll use it, thanks! YLSS (talk) 08:21, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Did I miss something? When was it decided to rename the (CONT) family of icons? Useddenim (talk) 01:38, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, there wasn't a centralised decision "yes, we can!", but I think it was on the verge for some time... Cf. Talk:BSicon/Renaming#CONTrf inconsistency. Because really, you can't have (ENDEl) and (CONTl) to show different designs... YLSS (talk) 05:53, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi YLSS. I noticed that your requests at COM:HMS were laying dormant for some time... Hence I decided to just clear 'em off. Then smack. Some bug in the system ruined the history of the final output of File:BSicon LSHI1+r.svg. Please see if this file is still usable? If not, you may have to re-upload a fresh file again :( The same happened to this as well... Rehman 12:39, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Wow, a 2012 revision before 2013 revisions... That's really some black magic! Yes, the file is still usable, but shows the older geometry. Not a big deal of course, and I suppose it is possible to revert "back to the future". May I suggest that you proceed with the second pair, but this time moving the revisions of File:BSicon exLSHI1+r.svg to File:BSicon exLSPLer.svg first, and then both to File:BSicon exLSHI1+r.svg? In any case, thanks for dealing with this! YLSS (talk) 12:57, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

I guess your move suggestion could overcome the bug. Will do as soon as I come back from work! :) Rehman 23:41, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

If you have time, would you be able to convert them to SVG? It's ok to change the styles, just need the basic diagram for a bunch of articles that I am working on at en.wiki. Let me know. :) Best regards, Rehman 02:36, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Umph, sorry, but I'm afraid I will be of little use here... As yet, I've only dealt with extremely primitive SVGs and only once tried out something similar to {{SVG Chart}}. So possibly I could convert those images, but I would need quite a lot of time to learn. I can only double Sameboat's suggestion to post a request at the Graphic Lab. YLSS (talk) 11:27, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

No worries. Thanks for the GL link, YLSS and Sameboat. I actually forgot about that place :P Best regards, Rehman 12:56, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

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Yes, it's true. I made this file behind request from Italian Graphic Lab (if I've understood right, it will be used, together with other similar files I've recently created, as generic icons for train stations articles on it.wiki). Nevertheless, I've put a rename request into the file as you asked me. --Mess (talk) 09:29, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to tell you that the track map for 羅湖站/Lo Wu Station in Chinese WP is actually wrong, but that was not your fault. It was the IP user added the wrong map of another station. I would be terribly sorry if anyone mistook you for vandalism.-- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 23:16, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for checking that! No offence for removing it. BTW, in many articles I replaced embedded maps with dedicated templates. Actually, I don't know the situation around there, and if it had been decided that it is better to embed maps, could you them please take care of the templates? That is, embed them and nominate for deletion or something. (I just don't want to update icons in two places instead of one.)

About the District Line route map, I didn't make any big progress because I'm recently busy at work. I'm just curious why you want me to translate it to zh.wp, even though that map will be translated any time soon. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 23:16, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Oops, I suppose I expressed myself wrong... I don't want you to translate it; I had just translated it then to Russian and converted it to Lua (which was an interesting experience – I found a sequence of regular expressions for Notepad++ for a nearly automatic conversion!), and suggested that you may want to translate it, if you find it interesting and challenging as I did. Sorry for burdening you with this! YLSS (talk) 23:37, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I've downloaded Notepad++ and start learning the regex myself. It's quite tricky but kinda fun to use once I get the basic like ([^...]+). -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 03:54, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

SElephant reverted your edit because Chrome makes the mw-collapsible button unclickable. And the reason for that is because Chrome and Safari still retain the height of text even if the font-size is defined zero, which I used to space out the title text and collapsible button. In the end I reverted BS-map from div to table and mw-collapsible to old collapsible again (old collapsible does not support div, only mw-collapsible does) while retaining the inline parameter. I'm motivated for this rollback also because MediaWiki processes wiki markup faster than html command in general. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 07:12, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Really? That's interesting... (BTW, new/old BS-map based on tables looks better than it did with divs, at least the header row does.) YLSS (talk) 15:08, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

User 108.65.201.239 (talk·contribs) has been poking at this dead horse. Even though much of his editing has been deletion of commented-out German text, I’m not sure that’s constructive. Personally, I think the page should either be deleted completely or merged into the existing set of talk pages and Commons:WikiProject BSicon. Your thoughts? Useddenim (talk) 13:23, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Oumph... "last update: 12:57, Apr 2 2007 (UTC)" – that is, six days after I first edited Wikipedia... So really, don't ask me what to do with it... I wouldn't mind if it gets deleted, but I do not advise anything here... YLSS (talk) 14:32, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

If you want me to delete that file, you need to replace it on the userpages where it appears. It's not nice to unnecessarily orphan the links on those people's pages. Once you do that, I'll happily speedy it for you. In the mean time, I have removed the speedy request again. Sven ManguardWha? 19:08, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

You know... I do not ask you to do anything with that page. There's a dozen other admins who routinely delete such redirects – just because they trust those members of COM:WPBS who routinely rename these icons and replace their usage. WRT user pages: the majority of them are galleries of BSicons that are long neglected, and it is expected that the files will go redlink (or blank) under the obsolete titles. Some even have notices that they should not be updated in case of renaming, but should show the historical state of affairs. And some are abandoned sandboxes; those that are more or less recent, I do update. And to finish off, in ja.wp, for example, editing other users' pages is prohibited. YLSS (talk) 19:16, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi, YLSS. Unfortunately wikiproject BSicon has no administrators. Have you thought about being an administrator? That case you can delete your own trash. Taivo (talk) 18:10, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Whew... Well, I am really grateful for your proposal, but I think I can't accept it... Adminship requires quite a lot of responsibility and quite a lot of time, while I won't boast of the former, and I'm going to lack the latter quite soon. I have dealt with several admins that showed more or less abuse of their powers, and I'm afraid of going down that track — I already noticed that I sometimes show disrespect to unregistered users, even though I had edited only as an IP myself for several years. If it was possible to limit the admin tools to pages with "File:BSicon" prefix only, I would be thrilled to get them; but I don't have any desire to deal with other things...

That said, maybe it would be better if I periodically make some lists of things to be deleted instead of tagging them one by one?

I am not sure about making lists of files, which need deletion. You can do such list and if I see it, then I can periodically delete the files. But I am not every day in Commons. What then? You can note to others. Taivo (talk) 20:29, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

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Are you sure about the renaming of (KSTRaq)v.s (KSTRl)? I’d suppose you favour the former, matching your own (very applaud- and thanks-worthy!) uploads and renamings of CONT and ENDE, and considering (KSTReq), created by you on the same day. I’m surprised you asked for (KSTRaq) to be moved to (KSTRl). -- Tuválkin✉ 15:44, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Umh... I actually wrote about moving the older (KSTRl) to the better name (KSTRaq), and already replaced all usage to the latter. YLSS (talk) 16:14, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi YLSS, please don't exchange normal curves with KRW-style ones in dewiki, they are not included in our Bilderkatalog. Cheers a×pdeHello! 20:42, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Maybe you should include them into your Bilderkatalog? ;) OK, I won't... It seems that on my crusade against the ugliness of I'll have to leave de.wp in the stone age. YLSS (talk) 20:55, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

If possible please modify the template so the image links are shown in wikisyntax for easy identification of already deleted ones. The current version with external links is rather uncomfortable.--Denniss (talk) 23:18, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Done. However, some are double-redirect and still won't show. I used external links so that "redirect=no" could be added. YLSS (talk) 06:34, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Okay, So I understand the concept of d icons and (generally) how they work, but I was having difficulty in applying that to en:Racine (CTA Blue Line station). At the top of the diagram are three track lines. One heading "f", one in the middle, and one heading "g." As of right now the middle track (which abruptly stops) is composed of overlays of a left and a right half to form a track in between the others. What I wanted was a CONT arrow in between the two existing tracks (hence the request for left and right halves). Attempting to overlay with "d" icons so far hasn't enabled me to get this as one of the other pieces is now offset in the wrong place. I'm not sure how to fix this. Lost on Belmont (talk) 00:00, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Here you are. You just have to "imagine" the middle CONT arrow to be a full-width icon, and to realise where that icon "starts" and "ends", speaking horizontally. The starting point would be precisely half-way across (uCONTfa), so we should "leave" only half of it: we place it on top of (d), so that it takes only 10px in width instead of 20px and the next icon will "start" at that point; (uCONTfa) itself will be positioned just like if it wasn't overlaid at all. Similarly, the middle arrow should "end" just before the right arrow starts, so it should take only 10px instead of 20px, and we overlay it on top of (d), once again. So we have three full-width icons (3×20px) that take up 10+10+20=40px, as if there were only two. YLSS (talk) 07:31, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

I see my mistake now. When adding the "d" pieces, I forgot to expand the number of rows by 1. Silly me. Thanks! Lost on Belmont (talk) 21:48, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Of course it is. But somehow I dislike seeing an icon uploaded on top of a different one. With my own uploads I can tolerate that, but I struggle not to do that with others' uploads. YLSS (talk) 19:30, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

I don’t see it as a problem regardless of who the original uploader was, so no offense taken if you over-write my work. Useddenim (talk) 01:49, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Just leave that Asperger infant be. You begin to look funnier when you try to sincerely reason with him. I wanted to retort him, but I felt I will look as silly as him if I start any conversation with such creature. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 04:20, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Well yeah, but... Just trying to be more patient ;) YLSS (talk) 06:35, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your comments. I searched the icons in the categories but has not been possible to find them. I'm sorry. From now on , I will use notepad to create icons, if necessary. Best regards. Monmr (talk) 08:40, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

No problem. If you have any questions, ask at Talk:BSicon and subpages, we'll be glad to help you! YLSS (talk) 08:42, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

You currently appear to be participating in an edit war (at File:NNMetro.svg). Users are expected to collaborate with others, and once it is known that there is a disagreement should discuss the issues on the relevant talk page rather than repeatedly undoing other users' contributions. If necessary you can ask for more input at Commons:Dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to ask for temporary page protection. If you continue to edit war, you may be blocked from editing – even if you are right about the content issue.

Here's my shared Google Drive folder[2]. It contains Moscow Metro maps which are updated for the opening of Troparyovo and new livery colors of TPK and Kozhukhovskaya Line. In case I am absent when Troparyovo opens, you may update the maps on Commons for me. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 03:21, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

About this: While I can remember a discussion where everybody agreed that "BS" is a terrible choice (only two letters, and one more thing starting with "B") and that "PLT" may be a better choice, I don’t remember and cannot find any discussion saying that "BS" is pretty good after all and that all use of "PLT" should be replaced. -- Tuválkin✉ 00:07, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Well, I was unable to find any discussion like that, only Circeus's note here, where he proposed (PLF). (I don't think that confusion with (BST) is anyhow possible, and if anything, (BS2) can and should be got rid off.) And then there was this discussion, where Useddenim proposed yet another root, (PFM)... And also I explained my thoughts why it would be better to keep it as ROOT+ROOT, and to keep (BS) – but nobody cared to answer... Please note that I did not go straight away with that, those half-width I renamed back in May; and (leer+BS) → (BS) I renamed in September. It appeared at User:AlgaeGraphix/BSicon 103 – did anybody notice?.. All in all, I'm quite neutral on what is better – (BS) or (PLT) or anything; but I have no desire to rename (STR+BSl) and the rest, especially since they are quite good as they are; on the other hand, I managed to move pretty much all of (PLT)s in a single day (except a couple that puzzle me). If you wish, feel free to rename them back, but that would necessitate renaming (STR+BSl) & co. – spare me that! YLSS (talk) 09:44, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi YLSS, I'm sure you know a better for User:Circeus/BSicon renaming/Non-rail crossings this userspace discussions. Moreover: My old lame PC is running into deep problems opening some of the BSicon discussion tree. Could you please divide those talks into smaller portions and create in index to all discussions on the tree root? I guess you're the only one, who still has the overview ... :-} Thanks in advance! a×pdeHello! 08:23, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi Axpde, I removed that note from Circeus's page (shouldn't have posted it there in the first place). WRT Talk:BSicon subpages, I'll see what I can do... But I only remember more or less those discussions that started only after I got enmeshed with this business, discovering earlier ones is often quite a surprise for me. YLSS (talk) 14:11, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Feel free to upload the icons you need, if so, just don't overdo. First of all, nearly-empty categories don't look good: their main purpose is to group files together and to help people find them. If a category contains only a couple of files, it just provides an extra click to navigate there, and no real grouping or breaking-down. Second, there is little purpose in uploading some complex icons (especially multi-coloured) if there is little chance that they will be used ever again. Instead, use overlaying: for example, to show use |hSTRq|O2=MASKm|O22=hSTR brown, as in en:Template:Brown Line (CTA). If you have any questions, feel free to ask — I'll be glad to answer! YLSS (talk) 00:16, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Sorry if this is a bad place to ask this, I couldn't find a talk page for asking for help. On Wikipedia:User:J.reed/sandbox I have a diagram that works fine until I collapse some sections, then those sections aren't lined up. Right now only one is collapsed (the second template on the page). Any idea how to fix it? J.reed (talk) 13:07, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

I guess the problem is in that the total width of icons in BS-collapsible and BS-replace rows should be equal to the maximum total width of icons in all the rows. There's more about this here (and in other sections also). Try adding (c) at both sides in both BS-collapsible and BS-replace. YLSS (talk) 15:31, 25 March 2015 (UTC)