The funniest thing about the Jack Chick form of Christianity is that, after the life our protagonist led, if he had TRULY repented and taken Jesus into his heart five seconds before the plane hit the mountain, he would go directly to heaven.

Same thing with serial child murderers. You can kidnap, rape, torture, and kill 100 toddlers, but the fundie Xtian lot says that after doing all that, as long as you are "born again" (and get this - since we're "all sinners", you don't even have to apologize for what you did before, you just have to truly "repent" of your prior sins! Even that BS Alcoholics Anonymous stuff talks about "making amends", but not in Jack Chick's world), you get to go to heaven with glowy, faceless Jebus.

But Ghandi and Mother Teresa are in Hell.

Sorry, Jack. If that's how the supernatural system works, I want no part of it. It's repugnant.

As an atheist I can't deny that Jesus' "teachings" have a whole lot of good in them (and a few loose ends which remind you that it's a work of man from a more barbarous time), and we'd be better people if more of us could commit ourselves to living many of those basic teachings. You know like humility, loving one another, forgiving one another, caring for the sick and poor, being less judgmental, not worshiping the "money changers" and not shoving our own beliefs down others' throats...

The problem is that the modern American evangelical movement isn't christian, it's all but explicitly satanic and certainly blasphemous.

The movement takes each of those teachings of Jesus and inverts them, as surely as any satanist inverts the cross. More so even, since the cross is just a symbol and those teachings are the substance. That's what happens when you mix politics and religion instead of keeping them separate - they corrupt each other. So now we have satanic "christians" who insist that America is a "christian nation", who have stood for decades opposed to minorities and have nothing to do with them from being allowed to get married, who are "tough on crime", who constantly fight tooth and nail to pull the rug out from under social safety nets which care for those who need healthcare and the poor, who are always trying to force their morality on others who might not share it through legislation, who support corrupt/flawed republican financial policies which benefit the wealthy at the expense of everyone else, and who just can't help but pray on the "streetcorners" every damn chance they get.

Some christians don't think we should mock the evangelical/charismatic movement christianity? They should stop being such a shiatty caricature, stop farking our country up and start having just a modicum of understanding that there are other people in the world who don't and won't ever share evangelical christian beliefs and they have every right to live their lives without christian political cronies trying to fark with them legislatively at just to pander for the right-wing vote. In other words: START ACTUALLY BEING CHRISTIAN. Then there won't be anything to mock.

After converting to Christianity, Chick wanted to evangelize others, but was too shy to talk to people directly about religion.[8] Chick heard from missionary Bob Hammond, who had broadcast in Asia on the Voice of America, that the Communist Party of China had gained significant influence among ordinary Chinese in the 1950s through the distribution of small comic books.

So ol Jack's copying what worked for the Communists in China.

Jack's a got damn Jesus Commie.

He's also according to wiki 89 years old, so we're getting a valuable look into the mind of a senile bigot's brain.

Smackledorfer:I'd like to see one where someone is a good person, making all the morally right decisions, but doesn't believe in JC and gets thrown into hell next to Hitler.

Flight 144 - where building schools and hospitals for lepers and generally working hard for the betterment of your fellow man isn't enough if you don't believe in the magical sky-daddy in the exact same way Mr Chick do it...

It is my belief that the person behind the Chick tracts is a very sad and hateful individual.

dahmers love zombie:The funniest thing about the Jack Chick form of Christianity is that, after the life our protagonist led, if he had TRULY repented and taken Jesus into his heart five seconds before the plane hit the mountain, he would go directly to heaven.

Same thing with serial child murderers. You can kidnap, rape, torture, and kill 100 toddlers, but the fundie Xtian lot says that after doing all that, as long as you are "born again" (and get this - since we're "all sinners", you don't even have to apologize for what you did before, you just have to truly "repent" of your prior sins! Even that BS Alcoholics Anonymous stuff talks about "making amends", but not in Jack Chick's world), you get to go to heaven with glowy, faceless Jebus.

But Ghandi and Mother Teresa are in Hell.

Sorry, Jack. If that's how the supernatural system works, I want no part of it. It's repugnant.

As much as I don't subscribe to the "Born Again" theology, it is one part of their doctrine I can get behind. Sorta. Repentance of any type during life, while noble if sincere, is by nature incomplete. I believe that when it happens, truly, is after death.

Revelation upon death is the only method that I can rationalize a kind and loving deity against the the problem of evil (via free will). What I mean is, when one dies you suddenly get to see how it all works. At which point there can only really be one of two outcomes; repentance and acceptance or willful oblivion (I do not believe that there is a hell, aka gods eternal torture palace). Either life is a learning experience for what comes next, or your rejection of the whole is so strong that you quietly obliterate yourself.

/ This is no way justifies sin during life// I likely do not have it even remotely right, but we all try./// Critiques and debates welcome, but if your approaching it from absolute atheism we won't get anywhere so why bother.

Mugato:Somacandra: No, its about how Jewish lawyers who "hate Jesus" have all the money and run Satan's world. Look at the careful but extensive use of Jewish visual stereotypes. Typical Jack Chick anti-Semitism.

Tell me you just noticed the drawings and didn't plow through all of that.

Somacandra:No, its about how Jewish lawyers who "hate Jesus" have all the money and run Satan's world. Look at the careful but extensive use of Jewish visual stereotypes. Typical Jack Chick anti-Semitism.

Tell me you just noticed the drawings and didn't plow through all of that.