I just installed Eclipse 3.4m7 and wtp 3.0 m7 by untarring the eclipse gtk
tar and unzipping the WTP files over that. This usually works without any
problem.
But now, when I start this installation, I get:
- the Eclipse splash screen
- Eclipse uses CPU for some 10 seconds, then the CPU stays idle
- The splash stays on-screen for > 10 minutes(!)
- After the 10 minutes Eclipse starts, but WTP is not installed.

I did notice that in M6 the new update manager caused huge startup delays
also when new software was installed (about 4 minutes for the 1st startup
when new software was installed) but that continued to use CPU all that
time AND resulted in a usable installation....

Frits Jalvingh wrote:
> I just installed Eclipse 3.4m7 and wtp 3.0 m7 by untarring the eclipse gtk
> tar and unzipping the WTP files over that. This usually works without any
> problem.
> But now, when I start this installation, I get:
> - the Eclipse splash screen
> - Eclipse uses CPU for some 10 seconds, then the CPU stays idle
> - The splash stays on-screen for > 10 minutes(!)
> - After the 10 minutes Eclipse starts, but WTP is not installed.
>
> The console shows:
> Artifact repository out of sync.
> Overwriting /home/jal/opt/e-3.4m7/plugins/org.eclipse.datatools.intro_1. 0.0.200706071.jar
> Artifact repository out of sync.
> Overwriting /home/jal/opt/e-3.4m7/plugins/org.eclipse.datatools.doc.user _1.0.0.200706071.jar
> Artifact repository out of sync.
> Overwriting /home/jal/opt/e-3.4m7/plugins/org.apache.commons.discovery_0 .2.0.v200706111329
> Artifact repository out of sync.
> Overwriting /home/jal/opt/e-3.4m7/plugins/org.eclipse.jem.beaninfo_2.0.0 .v200705302225.jar
> Artifact repository out of sync.
> Overwriting /home/jal/opt/e-3.4m7/plugins/org.eclipse.jem.ui_2.0.0.v2007 05302225.jar
> Artifact repository out of sync.
> Overwriting /home/jal/opt/e-3.4m7/plugins/org.eclipse.jst.common.annotat ions.ui_1.1.2.v200706120315.jar
> Artifact repository out of sync.
> Overwriting /home/jal/opt/e-3.4m7/plugins/org.eclipse.wst.common.infopop _1.0.2.v200706110217.jar
> Artifact repository out of sync.
> Overwriting /home/jal/opt/e-3.4m7/plugins/org.eclipse.wst.validation.inf opop_1.0.202.v200706110217.jar
> Artifact repository out of sync.
> Overwriting /home/jal/opt/e-3.4m7/plugins/org.eclipse.wst.wsi.ui.doc.use r_1.0.203.v200706120315.jar
>
> I did notice that in M6 the new update manager caused huge startup delays
> also when new software was installed (about 4 minutes for the 1st startup
> when new software was installed) but that continued to use CPU all that
> time AND resulted in a usable installation....
>
> Any thoughts on this?
>
> Frits

I would have expected see "eclipse" to be between the "e-3.4m7" and
"plugins" in those paths. Don't know what that might imply about your
installation. You might try again and unzip WTP and its dependencies in
the dropins folder of the Eclipse installation. I think that is what
you are expected to do when "assembling" an installation from multiple
zips. You will still get the startup delay on first use (and with new
plug-ins are added) while the newly detected plug-ins are "installed".

>>
>> I did notice that in M6 the new update manager caused huge startup de=
lays
>> also when new software was installed (about 4 minutes for the 1st sta=
rtup
>> when new software was installed) but that continued to use CPU all th=
at
>> time AND resulted in a usable installation....
>>

>
> I would have expected see "eclipse" to be between the "e-3.4m7" and
> "plugins" in those paths.

There is a couple of bugs about that top level name 'eclipse' being some=
thing other than 'eclipse',
apparently being fixed in RC1. https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cg=
i?id=3D231178
So, you should leave that as 'eclipse' for now.

And, they are making great stride in startup times, but those are known =
issues. I'd say if you still see really bad performance in RC1 to open s=
ome new bugs at that point.

Any negative experiences you have should be reported as bugs as there's =
some very "fresh" code being used in the platform and we appreciate all =
the early eyes and fingers on it as we can.