cretinbob: Just think how much better China would be if they could own guns.

I have no way to prove my theory on this but if Chinese citizens were allowed to own guns I'd say apart from the model cities of Beijing and Shanghai, many Chinese cities (especially in the industrial south near Hong Kong and the interior) would have a pretty decent homicide rate. I'm not saying it would be like the US, but some parts of it wouldn't be terribly safe.

With one and a half billion folks, you're gonna have your fair share of murderers, serial killers, scam artists, crimes of passion, etc. Atleast in Southern China, there is no shortage of reported lurid stories about kidnappers, murders, robberies, etc. Most Westerners don't know about it because a) state media avoids reporting such stuff; b) foreigners don't generally travel around the gritty industrial areas; and c) crooks don't target Westerners because they'll get extra heat from the local cops.

optional:Part of me wants China to take over the War on Terror. Just so I can stand back, give a little wave to the Middle East, and say: "Have fun!"

The War on Terror has nothing to do with the Middle East, and everything to do with continuing to fund the military industrial complex and enable the slow, continuing descent into becoming a police state.

If every terrorist in the Middle East were to drop dead tomorrow, rest assured that we would find someone else to shiat our pants over.

The Uighar's do have a legitimate beef with the Chinese government due to the colonization of their territory by Han's (much like the Soviet Union did with Russians which is leading to the issues we see in Ukraine and elsewhere used by Russia presently for aggression) as well as general repression, discrimination, and economic exploitation that does not benefit their communities that they face in China. I am not excusing the violence, but this isn't just uppity Muslim's blowing shiat up and knifing people because of a cartoon in the local paper. Furthermore this type of attack should have been expected since the Chinese president was visiting the area so it sends a strong message.

Emposter:optional: Part of me wants China to take over the War on Terror. Just so I can stand back, give a little wave to the Middle East, and say: "Have fun!"

The War on Terror has nothing to do with the Middle East, and everything to do with continuing to fund the military industrial complex and enable the slow, continuing descent into becoming a police state.

If every terrorist in the Middle East were to drop dead tomorrow, rest assured that we would find someone else to shiat our pants over.

If every terrorist dropped dead, the whole world would be like wtf just happened? There would be funding into what caused them to all die on the same day, some of the quasi-terrorists may think they just wern't terrory enough, and try to do something bigger to become divinely martyred like their brothers. Others would blame israel and a major war would ensue, so military would need to be upped.

Fark It:fusillade762: Fark It: cretinbob: Just think how much better China would be if they could own guns.

We should be more like China when it comes to the rights of the people.

I'd settle for Australia.

Confiscation, eh? At least you're honest.

I am a gun owner for recreational sporting. My grandfather has thwarted two attempted burglaries, and my whole family likes to hunt. However, I am absolutely sick of the bullshiat that you gun nuts keep spewing. If we can not have a rational discussion about solutions to the problems that guns create, then you can now honestly count me in as a gun grabber. I say we amend the constitution to strike the second amendment all together.

You NRA nut balls have proven that you will not accept any reasonable regulation what so ever, you are now extremist and are completely blinded by your fears.

This China story must be a lie. Civilian gun ownership is practically banned, so how could anyone kill masses of people?

Dedmon:Fark It: fusillade762: Fark It: cretinbob: Just think how much better China would be if they could own guns.

We should be more like China when it comes to the rights of the people.

I'd settle for Australia.

Confiscation, eh? At least you're honest.

I am a gun owner for recreational sporting. My grandfather has thwarted two attempted burglaries, and my whole family likes to hunt. However, I am absolutely sick of the bullshiat that you gun nuts keep spewing. If we can not have a rational discussion about solutions to the problems that guns create, then you can now honestly count me in as a gun grabber. I say we amend the constitution to strike the second amendment all together.

You NRA nut balls have proven that you will not accept any reasonable regulation what so ever, you are now extremist and are completely blinded by your fears.

The point of comparing knife attacks to gun attacks isn't to do a cost benefit analysis over whether its better for people to be stabbed or shot. The result of that will be folks going up on the occasional puff of smoke and a bunch of bean counters getting egg on their face, as they try to explain why having fewer rights and continued attacks was a positive turn of events.

The point is that the attacks continue when we need them to stop, and no amount of law enforcement or ban seems to help.We'll still need to disarm this social time bomb when we get to the other end of the authoritarianism rabbit hole.

So it would be in everyone's interest to spend a bit of effort resolving why people are going nuts, and why nuts are loose in society, rather than trying to spin this to a political parties benefit.

way south:The point of comparing knife attacks to gun attacks isn't to do a cost benefit analysis over whether its better for people to be stabbed or shot. The result of that will be folks going up on the occasional puff of smoke and a bunch of bean counters getting egg on their face, as they try to explain why having fewer rights and continued attacks was a positive turn of events.

The point is that the attacks continue when we need them to stop, and no amount of law enforcement or ban seems to help.We'll still need to disarm this social time bomb when we get to the other end of the authoritarianism rabbit hole.

So it would be in everyone's interest to spend a bit of effort resolving why people are going nuts, and why nuts are loose in society, rather than trying to spin this to a political parties benefit.

Well we know exactly why people go nuts. Give them no oppertunities, no say, and nothing to lose and they go postal. Doesn't matter the climate or the culture or the religion.

Dedmon:Fark It: fusillade762: Fark It: cretinbob: Just think how much better China would be if they could own guns.

We should be more like China when it comes to the rights of the people.

I'd settle for Australia.

Confiscation, eh? At least you're honest.

I am a gun owner for recreational sporting. My grandfather has thwarted two attempted burglaries, and my whole family likes to hunt. However, I am absolutely sick of the bullshiat that you gun nuts keep spewing. If we can not have a rational discussion about solutions to the problems that guns create, then you can now honestly count me in as a gun grabber. I say we amend the constitution to strike the second amendment all together.

You NRA nut balls have proven that you will not accept any reasonable regulation what so ever, you are now extremist and are completely blinded by your fears.

There are over 20,000 gun laws on the books. The problem isn't regulation. The problem is that there is no rational national policy.

Thank god no one in China can carry a firearm. Someone might have gotten hurt here.

Dedmon:Fark It: fusillade762: Fark It: cretinbob: Just think how much better China would be if they could own guns.

We should be more like China when it comes to the rights of the people.

I'd settle for Australia.

Confiscation, eh? At least you're honest.

I am a gun owner for recreational sporting. My grandfather has thwarted two attempted burglaries, and my whole family likes to hunt. However, I am absolutely sick of the bullshiat that you gun nuts keep spewing. If we can not have a rational discussion about solutions to the problems that guns create, then you can now honestly count me in as a gun grabber.

Australia did have a confiscation program. It's not paranoia to bring up confiscation when people start arguing to emulate a country that has had confiscation.

I say we amend the constitution to strike the second amendment all together.

So much for that '"rational discussion" you want....

You NRA nut balls have proven that you will not accept any reasonable regulation what so ever, you are now extremist and are completely blinded by your fears.

Not in the NRA, like the overwhelming majority of gun owners. The extreme position is that of wanting to turn gun ownership into a privilege and advocating for confiscation.