I'm sorry if this is a duplicate, but I sent it
out twice last night and have yet to see it in the workgroup mailing list.
3.11 Lists – Review Notes
3.11.1 The ol element
"If the start attribute is present, user agents
must parse it as an integer in order to determine
the attribute's value. The default value, used
if the attribute is missing or if the value
cannot be converted to a number according to the referenced algorithm, is 1."
The start attribute was deprecated in HTML
4.01. See
<http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/index/attributes.html>http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/index/attributes.html.
(Note – I found this and the related table on
elements among the most useful documents in the
HTML 4.01 collection. Has any thought been given
to preparing something comparable for HTML 5?)
"The first item in the list has the ordinal value
given by the
<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/#ol>ol element's
<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/#start0>start
attribute, unless that
<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/#li>li element
has a
<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/#value>value
attribute with a value that can be successfully
parsed, in which case it has the ordinal value
given by that <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/#value>value attribute."
The value attribute was also deprecated in HTML 4.01. See above reference.
Given that both the start attribute of the ol
element and the value attribute of the li element
were deprecated in HTML 4.01, what is the
compelling case for resurrecting them?
3.11.3 The li element
"When
<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/#determining1>used
as an inline-level content container, the list
item represents a single
<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/#paragraph>paragraph. "
What happens when an li element's content is
comprised text of more than one paragraph? That
situation is not clear to me given this rule.
Again, the value attribute is referenced, although deprecated in 4.01.
3.11.4 The dl element
Typo in the "Content model" text: " Zero or more
groups each consisting of one or more
<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/#dt>dt elements
followed by one or mode
<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/#dd>dd
elements." Should be "…one or MORE dd elements".
In the second dt/dd example, <dfn> is not
explained and does not occur previously within
the list context. Is there some way it could be
at least partially explained in this context?
3.11.5 The dt element / 3.11.6 The dd element
I don't see the correlation between dt/dd in the
dl context and dt/dd in the dialog context. Is
there any possibility that the dialog child
members could be called something else? I fear
it's going to confuse some authors. And what
does someone do about marking up a dialogue in
which there are more than two speakers
(oxymoronic, I know, but there will be authors
out there who will probably seek to use the
dialog element to describe any multi-person
exchange)? How will you alternate between more than two speakers?
Debi Orton / oradnio@gmail.com