Perhaps I am wrong, but if a man* ran over survivors of an airline crash, he would have his name reported, and out of sheer embarrassment for being a dumbass he would not have sued, hoping that the story would die down.

But then again, good for you, 49-year-old Elyse Duckett. You are willing to be forever embedded in internet history for what you believe in.

Snarfangel:Perhaps I am wrong, but if a man* ran over survivors of an airline crash, he would have his name reported, and out of sheer embarrassment for being a dumbass he would not have sued, hoping that the story would die down.

But then again, good for you, 49-year-old Elyse Duckett. You are willing to be forever embedded in internet history for what you believe in.

/*A sane man, I mean. Not one oblivious to the Streisand effect.

It's probably a man* who ran her over FIRST, because she ran over the body second. Yet the death is blamed on her and her name is released to the media? Yeah, she might have a case.

*Because the first driver wasn't named, which Duckett alleges is because it's not a black lesbian.

Typhoid:Snarfangel: Perhaps I am wrong, but if a man* ran over survivors of an airline crash, he would have his name reported, and out of sheer embarrassment for being a dumbass he would not have sued, hoping that the story would die down.

But then again, good for you, 49-year-old Elyse Duckett. You are willing to be forever embedded in internet history for what you believe in.

/*A sane man, I mean. Not one oblivious to the Streisand effect.

It's probably a man* who ran her over FIRST, because she ran over the body second. Yet the death is blamed on her and her name is released to the media? Yeah, she might have a case.

*Because the first driver wasn't named, which Duckett alleges is because it's not a black lesbian.

"Duckett's suit says fire officials blamed her for Ye's death, even though they knew that the other rig, driven by firefighter http://www.sfgate.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=bay area&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Jimmy+Yee%22">Jimmy Yee, had been the first to hit the girl. "

Sounds like she's trying to throw him under the firetruck, to save her own skin.

Snarfangel:Typhoid: Snarfangel: Perhaps I am wrong, but if a man* ran over survivors of an airline crash, he would have his name reported, and out of sheer embarrassment for being a dumbass he would not have sued, hoping that the story would die down.

But then again, good for you, 49-year-old Elyse Duckett. You are willing to be forever embedded in internet history for what you believe in.

/*A sane man, I mean. Not one oblivious to the Streisand effect.

It's probably a man* who ran her over FIRST, because she ran over the body second. Yet the death is blamed on her and her name is released to the media? Yeah, she might have a case.

*Because the first driver wasn't named, which Duckett alleges is because it's not a black lesbian.

You mean firefighter Jimmy Yee?

Yes. Who's name is out there now because she mentioned it in the lawsuit.

By the time she got there, the suit says, Ye had already been killed by another fire rig and her body was obscured in flame-retardant foam. Duckett's rig then ran over the girl, the suit says.

Why the fark would you run over anything that big while on the way to an emergency? Doesn't matter whether you think it's a body or some debris. Christ, what idiots. Especially when you have no idea what's going on at the scene. There could be bodies all over the place.

She's complaining because the department leaked her name as being responsible for a death. The body had already been run over by another driver and was obscured by foam. Sounds like a reasonable complaint to me.

cryinoutloud:By the time she got there, the suit says, Ye had already been killed by another fire rig and her body was obscured in flame-retardant foam. Duckett's rig then ran over the girl, the suit says.

Why the fark would you run over anything that big while on the way to an emergency? Doesn't matter whether you think it's a body or some debris. Christ, what idiots. Especially when you have no idea what's going on at the scene. There could be bodies all over the place.

A small Chinese girl isn't much debris when you are driving a 60ton airport fire truck. Some of those trucks could run over small cars and not notice.

cryinoutloud:By the time she got there, the suit says, Ye had already been killed by another fire rig and her body was obscured in flame-retardant foam. Duckett's rig then ran over the girl, the suit says.

Why the fark would you run over anything that big while on the way to an emergency? Doesn't matter whether you think it's a body or some debris. Christ, what idiots. Especially when you have no idea what's going on at the scene. There could be bodies all over the place.

To be fair, that foam can hide quite a bit:

That's a real photo of a hanger after a fire-suppression system went off. The girl probably wasn't even visible as a bump.

She's suing them because the media learned her name from the fire department?

Yeah, it's not like they couldn't POSSIBLY have learned her name from any other source...if by no other means, via discovery when the kid's parents sued the fire department later. I mean, COME ON, honey...

Lsherm:cryinoutloud: By the time she got there, the suit says, Ye had already been killed by another fire rig and her body was obscured in flame-retardant foam. Duckett's rig then ran over the girl, the suit says.

Why the fark would you run over anything that big while on the way to an emergency? Doesn't matter whether you think it's a body or some debris. Christ, what idiots. Especially when you have no idea what's going on at the scene. There could be bodies all over the place.

To be fair, that foam can hide quite a bit:

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That's a real photo of a hanger after a fire-suppression system went off. The girl probably wasn't even visible as a bump.

EVEN if they felt the bump. they would almost certainly assume that it was a bit of wreckage from the plane crash ...

Spiralmonkey:She's complaining because the department leaked her name as being responsible for a death. The body had already been run over by another driver and was obscured by foam. Sounds like a reasonable complaint to me.

I love how we are all taking her story as fact. She could be lying to make herself look good. Anyone who defaults to I look different so it's your fault loses me.

trappedspirit:Farking Canuck: trappedspirit: Sure, just run over everyone and no one will be killed by the fire. Brilliant!

Coroner's investigation determined that the girl was run over by two trucks. Duckett's truck was the 2nd on the scene.

It is a reasonable assumption that the girl was hit by the other truck 1st. I don't think that anyone involved is debating this point.

My response was too the claim that

the fire department's priority isn't fleeing survivors in regards to a crashed aircraft.

That survivors fleeing from a fire are of so little concern to the fire department that they need to watch out for the fire trucks and not the other way around.

Does that strike you as bullshiat? Because it's not bullshiat. The giant flaming wreckage about to become a bomb is more of a concern than tip-toeing around wreckage to make sure you don't hit someone underneath it. If you're ever in a aircraft emergency, you better be watching out for emergency vehicles if you're fleeing from the site because they have bigger priorities.

She isn't going to get anywhere with a lawsuit, but why isn't the medic that couldn't tell if a girl was dead not taking any heat? How hard could it be to detect a pulse and respiration? Otherwise, she would been moved to triage and received treatment instead of left in a field and covered in foam before getting run over by a fire truck.

Summoner101:trappedspirit: Farking Canuck: trappedspirit: Sure, just run over everyone and no one will be killed by the fire. Brilliant!

Coroner's investigation determined that the girl was run over by two trucks. Duckett's truck was the 2nd on the scene.

It is a reasonable assumption that the girl was hit by the other truck 1st. I don't think that anyone involved is debating this point.

My response was too the claim that

the fire department's priority isn't fleeing survivors in regards to a crashed aircraft.

That survivors fleeing from a fire are of so little concern to the fire department that they need to watch out for the fire trucks and not the other way around.

Does that strike you as bullshiat? Because it's not bullshiat. The giant flaming wreckage about to become a bomb is more of a concern than tip-toeing around wreckage to make sure you don't hit someone underneath it. If you're ever in a aircraft emergency, you better be watching out for emergency vehicles if you're fleeing from the site because they have bigger priorities.

If you are dazed, confused, half maimed, crawling for your life, I got some bad news for you. FIRST RESPONDERS ARE COMING!!