The Efffects of Jungle Warfare & Pro-Anabol on Riseboi

Several Ab Movements- Mostly crunches and glute-hip raises. Also included several sets of 10 on the ab roller (most of those kneeling on the ground but I did a handful standing up. Damn those are tough!!)

IMPRESSIONS:
Didnít lift today but I have noticed the past few days that I have been feeling more ĒpumpedĒ up, even when Iím not in the gym. I likey this!

Still not 100% in my shoulder but I was adamant about doing shoulders today. Whether I pay for it tomorrow, I guess time will tell. I switched from doing regular shoulder presses to the Arnold since that movement still ďtweaksĒ my arm a bit. The shoulder issue not withstanding, I think I had a pretty freaking good workout. I didnít want to stop and I kept on trying to think of other movements to throw in.

Over the past week, I have to admit that my strength is certainly going up, as indicated by the last two workouts. Itís still only been a week so Iím looking forward to JW and PA really kicking in. As far as sides, I have noticed slightly oilier skin, but my skin is normally pretty dry so it really isnít an issue right now. And I donít know if its related or pure coincidence but I did have a pimple pop up just to the right of my upperlip. Nothing huge and considering my sister is a dermatologist I always have **** to put on it. Itís barely noticeable. Anyways, the results are looking good so far. And hopefully things will only continue to get better.

AS A SIDE NOTE: I do want to note that I tried Genera Supplementís new preworkout energy supp, Adrenaline, these past 2 days. I donít think it would bolster or reduce the effects of JW or PA except for giving me an extra kick in the butt for my 5am workouts. I wonít be taking this everyday; just wanted to try them out to get my thoughts on them. Iíll post up my product review later.

So this is PRE the JW and PA huh? This is going to get interesting, i dont see much you could really inprove on, unless you wanted to put on more size overall/get the bf down more. You have great muscle balance overall.

Curious about a couple of things if you dont mind me asking.

What was your total time duration from pic 1 to 3? Previous suppliment/aas experience? You did mention you never really did any "bulkers" before? Did you just get in shape over a couple of years then just cut to reveal the mass, the add lbm afterword? Im just curious of the overall process...

re myself, im ecto/meso mix, and went from extra skinny 155lbs to 200lbs in about three years. This was with mostly bulking, one mild cut, and a few slack off periods where no gym/gained fat.

cycling is fun, but just like allot of us, I am getting tired of the "bulking, then cutting". I am currently trying to add more mass and get leaner and attain more vascularity.

So this is PRE the JW and PA huh? This is going to get interesting, i dont see much you could really inprove on, unless you wanted to put on more size overall/get the bf down more. You have great muscle balance overall.

Thanks JZ7757! I appreciate you comments! Right now, I'm mainly trying to gain more strength. I like to see "putting on size" more as secondry effect. And of course, I'd like to drop BF as much as possible but it's not priority number one during this period of time.

Originally Posted by JZ7757

Curious about a couple of things if you dont mind me asking.

What was your total time duration from pic 1 to 3?

In the transformation photo, the first pic was taken @ Dec 2004 and the third one was @ August 2005.

Originally Posted by JZ7757

Previous suppliment/anabolic steroids experience?

My experience is limited to staple items like protein, creatine, etc.. and stims/thermos for cutting. No anabolic steroid experience. JW and PA are the first "hormonal" supps I've ever taken.

Originally Posted by JZ7757

You did mention you never really did any "bulkers" before? Did you just get in shape over a couple of years then just cut to reveal the mass, the add lbm afterword? Im just curious of the overall process...

I was always a big boy most of my life but didn't really start working out with any type of consistency until my freshman college year. During that time, I put on a good amount of muscle. Unfortunately, the alcohol, late night binges, and generally poor diet hid anything worth seeing. After finally getting serious, my mindset has pretty much always been "cut". Now that I'm disciplined about my diet and exercise activities and have gotten to a pretty lean state, I can finally look towards putting on some lean muscle. But, I have every intention of doing it as cleanly as possible.

CARDIO DAY
Ran sprints for @ 1 hour. @ 40 yrds with resting time being the walk back to the the start.

IMPRESSIONS:
Not much to report in terms of strength. I just felt pretty good all around.

As a side note: Had a nice sweet tooth cheat last night consisting of 8 large honey oatmeal raisin cookies and a couple handfuls of peanut butter yogurt pretzels from Fresh Market. Didnít stop there as I satisfied my salt craving with a bag of multigrain tortilla chips and salsa. Iíll probably pay for it tomorrow but, damn, it was GOOD!

DAY 11

DOSING:
JW & PA as prescribed

Warmup: As many pushups I could do in 1 minute
59-60 pushups

Pull Ėups (as fast as possible until failure
15xBW, 10xBW, 8xBW

Incline DB Chest Press:
8x40, 8x60, 8x75

Seated Row Machine
8x90, 8x130, 8x150

Machine Chest Press:
8x50, 8x90, 8x180
(This was a new one for me and not one that I had ever used before. Instead of a single angle pivot, this one worked on a ball-n-socket type pivot and moved freely an all directs.)

Deadlift
8x135, 8x185, 8x225, 6x315, 1x365

A few sets of crunches

IMPRESSIONS:

I felt pretty lethargic this morning upon awaking (5am). I donít know if it was due to the cheat the night before or JA/PA. I decided to take a couple ALRI Venom to try and ďwakeí me up. At the gym I felt like I had no energy; at least at the beginning of it. Dehydration is always a issue I try and correct in the morning will a lot of water but I think the addition of the caffeine for energy really drained me. The ďas many pushups in a minuteĒ warm probably also contributed. After trying to make up for it, I have to say that by the end of the workout, I felt better. I had been chugging water down to that point. All in all, it wasnít one of my better workouts but I donít foresee it being an ongoing thing.

Thanks JZ7757My experience is limited to staple items like protein, creatine, etc.. and stims/thermos for cutting. No anabolic steroid experience. JW and PA are the first "hormonal" supps I've ever taken.

wow...even more impressive, give the age you started this. Great stuff!

Originally Posted by riseboi

During that time, I put on a good amount of muscle. Unfortunately, the alcohol, late night binges, and generally poor diet hid anything worth seeing. After finally have every intention of doing it as cleanly as possible.

Reminds me of 2005. I finally got my diet/habbits in check last summer. I think we all start at this point, until we see just how much a little cutback can help! AM has certainly helped me see the importance too!

you list your diet in your first post. is this a typical day of food for you? seems like almost all protien and hardly any carbs/fat.

btw. you look great! maybe i need to eat like this.

Thank for checking out my log.

As far as the diet, that was about where I started off at since I had been cutting. It was aimed to be a targeted ketogenic diet. Most of my carbs were targeted mainly before and after my workouts. Admittedly, my fats could have been higher but I still indulged in various marinades or sauces for my meals: I just didn't list them above. However, these past weeks I upped the carbs a fair amount. My semi postWO shake now includes oats, most of my meals includes some sort of vegetable (usually green beans or broccolli), and my pre-bed shake also now includes oats. I still haven't gained much weight since so I'll probably continue increase my macros.

It was really hard to wake up yesterday and today. Iím assuming this is more contributable to the JW since it has been known to cause it. Whether PA is contributing anymore to it, I wouldnít be able to say. I may throw in some more stims in the morning to help me get past it. As far as todayís workout I, my back was a little tight so I didnít push it on the squats. Besides that I think it was a decent workout but certainly not what I like to get out of my leg days. Iíll probably use tomorrow as an OFF day too so I can allow my body to rest. The fact that Iíve really tried to turn up my workouts these past few weeks is probably another reason why Iíve been ďkind of out of itĒ these past two workouts. One last thing I noticed these past few days has been an increase in aggression. A few times, I caught myself getting pretty riled up over what were really trivial things. Not necessarily a bad things; just something I sort of expected but need to pay attention to.

It was really hard to wake up yesterday and today. Iím assuming this is more contributable to the JW since it has been known to cause it. Whether PA is contributing anymore to it, I wouldnít be able to say. I may throw in some more stims in the morning to help me get past it. As far as todayís workout I, my back was a little tight so I didnít push it on the squats. Besides that I think it was a decent workout but certainly not what I like to get out of my leg days. Iíll probably use tomorrow as an OFF day too so I can allow my body to rest. The fact that Iíve really tried to turn up my workouts these past few weeks is probably another reason why Iíve been ďkind of out of itĒ these past two workouts. One last thing I noticed these past few days has been an increase in aggression. A few times, I caught myself getting pretty riled up over what were really trivial things. Not necessarily a bad things; just something I sort of expected but need to pay attention to.

Til next timeÖ.

Hey Rise,

What are "pistols"?

Also, I've noticed the last few days I've been more tired and pretty angry and easily irritated. Very similar to what you are describing...interesting... I'm not taking JW, just the PA.

Was initially going to just take another off day, but I felt pretty good this morning. Iím glad I did, I felt really good afterwards.

DAY 15

DOSING:
JW & PA as prescribed

DB Alternating Hammer Curls:
8x20, 8x40, 8x45, 8x45, 6x45

Standing DB Tricep Extension:
8x60, 8x80, 8x90, 6x95

BB Reverse Curls:
8x35, 8x45, 8x55, 8x65,

Weighted Dips:
8xBW, 8xBW+45, 8xBW+90, 8xBW+45, 8xBW

Seated Alternating DB Bicep Curls:
8x20, 8x40, 8x40, 6x45

Single Arm BD Tricep Extensions:
8x20, 8x20, 8x30, 6x35

IMPRESSIONS:

I just canít seem to get totally over this right arm ďtwitchĒ. There a few ROMís that bother me a bit, so Iím just adjusting my shoulder workouts to manage through it. Other than that, I think Iíve been making pretty good gains in the gym. I think Iíd really be Ďbusting throughĒ if I didnít have anything holding me back. In term of the pums, there are still there. I canít help but catch myself looking in the mirror thinking. ďDamn, Iím looking pretty [email protected]#$%^ jacked. Some of the trainer have even commented on it. Also, Iím pretty confident that Iíve put on a couple lbs since I started. I donít know how much of it is muscle, fat or possibly just water weight but Iím still looking pretty lean.

To FnF or Viperspit I still have the extra bottle that was sent. What would your thoughts be on possibly double dosing the rest of this cycle?

Felt slightly lethargic this morning, but that may have been due to the big McNugget cheat I had yesterday. Other than that, I felt pretty good. I adjusted my shoulder workout and still had a pretty good one. I’m not used to Arnold presses and am not very impressed by my lifts. Granted they are much more difficult than standard presses. With enough time (& JW/Pro-A ), I think I’ll be able to significantly increase on them.

CARDIO:
Did various agility ladder drills and several 40 yard sprints.

DOSING:
JW & PA as prescribed

IMPRESSIONS:

Starting to get a bit used to the lethargy that has sort of set in. Itís not bad, though, I didnít even bother with any extra caffeine this morning. Since Iím halfway in the cycle I also weighed myself and I was about 177. Since I started @ 174-175 Iím pretty content with this. I canít say for sure but I feel like I may have actually leaned out a bit more so Iím hoping that the weight gain was mostly muscle. Iíll let you all decide be comparing the pics. Either way, any comments are welcome.

I was going to look/re-plan a new workout schedule for myself tonight, but all I have to say now is that whatever you're doing and eating is what I need to be doing and eating.

About as hetero as I can say this, you are looking phenomenal. And the really nice thing is that you seem like a genuine, hard-working person. So whereas some other people who have great physiques piss me off because they can be total d-bags and are often blessed with genes that make their muscles explode just by picking up a pencil, it's really refreshing to see someone who's ego hasn't grown as big as their body has. Congrats.

Anyways, since you are already lean as hell it's hard to tell in that department how you've progressed. You are looking a little bit more full though. But I only say a little bit because you are so lean. From that, you know it has to be very close to 100% muscle gain.

Would you mind if I PMed you a little later on to inquire a little bit more about your regimen? I need to browse through your log again first...

JJC, thank you also for the comment on my character. I think I appreciate that even more so that what anyone might say about my physical progress. I guess, having known what it's like to be the "ugly (fat) duckling" I'm more appreciative of where I've come from and am adamant about not forgetting it.

Thanks again! I'm about to hit the sack so if you have any questions, feel free to post them here or PM and I'll respond tomorrow.

Well, I realized that I have been doing a similar training split to yours and I use quite a few of the same principles(eg supersetting). So I guess my only problem/question is the body fat issue. I'm by no means fat, but not as lean as I would like to be. I think I've come to the realization that all out bulks are fun but cutting is probably the most depressing situation...haha. So I just need to get down to a bf that I'm comfortable with....or whatever you're at! And then build from there.

This leads me to my question: are you ever hungry as hell on your diet?