I think a lot has to do with the bad name feminism has been given by a lot of men and some very strident feminists. @Fiddle_Playing_Creole_Bastard i did a search but I couldn’t find ‘misandranism’, want to fix my ignorance and tell me what it means?

What is your definition of “anti-feminist?” Civil rights and liberation movements really should be about liberating people to think for themselves, to make their own choices, to control their own destinies. It is not about trading one group of oppressors for another. In this case, it is not about liberating yourself from male oppression only to be told by other women how you should act and think and behave. One of the effects of “liberating” women to think for themselves, and to make their own choices, to control their own destinies is that they may not always agree with how some feminists define feminism. I know I don’t.

Wow, for feminists some of you don’t seem to have a very high opinion of women: ideas, words, phrases you are using: ignorant, uninformed, conditioned, docile, unable to understand, limited in their thinking…

I think the definition of feminism got lost somewhere along the way. To me it means equality of the sexes. That means if a man gets paid $10 an hour and I do the same job I should be paid $10 an hour. Many seem to think that it means I no longer want a guy to hold a door open for me, wrong, he just shouldn’t be surprised if I hold a door open for him as well. Its all about taking control and responsibility for your own life.

@Simone_De_Beauvoir – Competition will take care of that. Let the macho species hire below average men, while modern organizations recruit top talent from both genders.

My company owns as tall building on Wall Street and I’ve been there many times. For us diversity is a top priority, not only in New York but everywhere. It’s part of all our management programs. Our large Istanbul subsidiary in Turkey for example is run by a woman.

@Simone_De_Beauvoir – It’s really not about one woman in a top position. Turkey was just one example. I like this example because Turkey is a Muslim country.

We employ over 70,000 people worldwide. The whole corporate culture is built on many principles and one is that we hire the best people from both genders. This happens in New York, in London, in Singapore, in Milan, in Paris, in Frankfurt and so forth. Now, archaic organizations who still prefer to hire men will lose their competitive edge. Because they are run by the remaining specimen of the macho species, they will end up with a lot of below average men. Therefore I said their competitors will take care of the situation. And the trend is accelerating as more and more people become knowledge workers. Who needs muscles? We got machines for that. Who needs purely task-oriented people? We’ve got more and more computer programs for that. Who needs interpersonal skills? Who needs emotional and social intelligence? Teams of knowledge workers do.