How do you define religious intolerance? Any real world examples or how it has impacted you personally? - Think Atheist2017-09-26T20:14:11Zhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/forum/topics/how-do-you-define-religious-intolerance-any-real-world-examples?commentId=1982180%3AComment%3A1139638&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI am Australian and it is no…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2012-06-18:1982180:Comment:11421772012-06-18T05:03:37.232ZSuzanne Olson-Hydehttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/Suzanne
<p>I am Australian and it is no big deal to be an Atheist here. Our Prime Minister is an Atheist AND Female.</p>
<p>I just happen to be born here, bad luck if one is born into a relgious society/country.</p>
<p>@ Brad just has to look at the 13/17 year olds, trying to come out in their community/family. There you will see xian family love at it's best.</p>
<p>There have been young'uns 'Friended' me, then apologized because they had to remove that friend status, 'cause they didn't want it known…</p>
<p>I am Australian and it is no big deal to be an Atheist here. Our Prime Minister is an Atheist AND Female.</p>
<p>I just happen to be born here, bad luck if one is born into a relgious society/country.</p>
<p>@ Brad just has to look at the 13/17 year olds, trying to come out in their community/family. There you will see xian family love at it's best.</p>
<p>There have been young'uns 'Friended' me, then apologized because they had to remove that friend status, 'cause they didn't want it known - to their family - that they were Atheist, they would be disowned.</p>
<p>The following is a comment from another Atheist website of what can happen in the 'Land of Free Speech'.</p>
<p><b>Well I don’t know about you lot but you’ll have to count me out of face-to-face confrontations where I live.</b></p>
<p><b>These thick-headed fools around here have the power to make my life hell or to simply do away with me entirely.</b><span><br/></span> <b>One word in the right ear can lead to your body never being found and local law enforcement shrugging and walking away from the whole thing.</b></p>
<p><b>These are vicious batshit crazy people and I wouldn’t trust them with a piece of roadkill much less my personal freedoms or my life!</b></p>
<p><b>Well, I may live in the USA and have rights on paper, but in the real world I have their smelly boot on my neck and the certain prospect that this will continue for decades.</b></p>
<p><b>Besides, just what the fuck do you think these people are going to do when you stand up and say shit they look upon as blasphemous, heretical, or profane? Give you a back rub?</b></p>
<p><b>Are you fucking daft? Yes. Are you being realistic? No.</b><span><br/></span> <b>Did you think things through? It appears you don’t have a fucking clue how to do that.</b></p>
<p><b>Yes, you are dreaming. No, this is not a “cunning plan”.</b></p>
<p>The judaism/islamic/xian's all subjugate women, Jehovah Witnsess don't want any of their sheep getting an education - Exclusive Brethren won't tolerate TV. Computer or any divise where one may gain knowledge. The problem isn't with just one religon, they are all the same - Religions per se are about power and money and need people like you to prop up the hierarchy. All religions to me are cults and fearful, which is why they are getting even more vicious and hateful.</p> @John Major
I'm sorry, but in…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2012-06-18:1982180:Comment:11423112012-06-18T01:54:05.659ZHeather Spoonheimhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/HeatherSpoonheim
<p>@John Major</p>
<p>I'm sorry, but in the middle of your bl0g I lost track of whether you were writing about menus or marriage.</p>
<p>@John Major</p>
<p>I'm sorry, but in the middle of your bl0g I lost track of whether you were writing about menus or marriage.</p> @Heather your arguments get s…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2012-06-17:1982180:Comment:11417902012-06-17T14:25:10.886ZJohn Majorhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/JohnMajor
<p>@Heather your arguments get sillier and more desperate as a result of deep bitterness and hostility to those that question the ethics of animal slaughter for meat. </p>
<p>The Government in this country and many others promote marriage becuse they believe it is better for society as a whole. For the same reasons, they support gay marriage, hoping it will provide more stable relationships. Some members of the gay community do not want the right to gay marriage because of the implicit attempt…</p>
<p>@Heather your arguments get sillier and more desperate as a result of deep bitterness and hostility to those that question the ethics of animal slaughter for meat. </p>
<p>The Government in this country and many others promote marriage becuse they believe it is better for society as a whole. For the same reasons, they support gay marriage, hoping it will provide more stable relationships. Some members of the gay community do not want the right to gay marriage because of the implicit attempt to change behaviour. Some heteroexuals may similarly resent the instituion of marriage. You don't agree, fine. But stop jumping up and down saying it's not coherent just because elsewhere in another discussion I have dared to say that I think slaughtering animals in their billions is unethical. Troll all you like, but I'm not going be put off voicing a resonable point of view just to suit you. I'll remind you that there are many prominent atheists past and present who think similarly to me - Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Peter Singer, AC Grayling, Einstein. You can describe them as cult members like me if you like, but I think I am in good company.</p>
<p>Carl Sagan wrote:</p>
<p>"Humans - who enslave, castrate, experiment on, and fillet other animals - have had an understandable penchant for pretending animals do not feel pain. A sharp distinction between humans and "animals" is essential if we are to bend them to our will, make them work for us, wear them, eat them - without any disquieting tinges of guilt or regret. It is unseemly of us, who often behave so unfeelingly toward other animals, to contend that only humans can suffer. The behavior of other animals renders such pretensions specious. They are just too much like us."</p>
<p><strong>"...and now you've got a room full of evil politicians trying to 'trick gays' into safer sexual practices through matrimony."</strong></p>
<p>LOL and you call me paranoid! Where did I say anyone was trying to trick gays. There is no trickery. The governenment is quite open about promoting particular behaviours through the planned change in the law to enable gay mariage. <strong><br/></strong></p>
<p>You obsession with bashing any vegan/vegetarian you can find is an embarassment to this forum. You have now reached the stage where you are making up arguments I never made, just to have something to argue about. Calm down please, otherwise you may descend to this sort of thing again</p>
<p><strong>@Heather</strong> "<strong>Anyway, it's not like I called him [me, that is] an irritating, ignorant fucktard"</strong></p>
<p>Is there any better sign you feel you are losing the argument?</p>
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<p></p> You are flogging it to death.…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2012-06-17:1982180:Comment:11418612012-06-17T11:21:39.708ZHeather Spoonheimhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/HeatherSpoonheim
<p>You are flogging it to death. Suggesting that removing a prohibition will result in creating an obligation is ridiculous - but I wouldn't expect anymore from you. You are terrified that 'the meat industry' sits in a dark committee somewhere, plotting to bring you to ruin - and now you've got a room full of evil politicians trying to 'trick gays' into safer sexual practices through matrimony.</p>
<p>I'm sure you just started this challenge as another one of your trolls and now you just…</p>
<p>You are flogging it to death. Suggesting that removing a prohibition will result in creating an obligation is ridiculous - but I wouldn't expect anymore from you. You are terrified that 'the meat industry' sits in a dark committee somewhere, plotting to bring you to ruin - and now you've got a room full of evil politicians trying to 'trick gays' into safer sexual practices through matrimony.</p>
<p>I'm sure you just started this challenge as another one of your trolls and now you just can't let it go - because no one could be as paranoid as you come across.</p> Kris. I don't want to flog th…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2012-06-17:1982180:Comment:11418592012-06-17T08:37:14.486ZJohn Majorhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/JohnMajor
Kris. I don't want to flog this to death. I would support gay marriage, no question. But is pointless discussing whether a change in the law would or would not change behaviour when we can clearly see that even with it as a prospect, behaviour has been changed. It is inevitable. If laws didn't change behaviour, what would be the point? I'm not be unnecessasarily argumentative, but it is just not the case that there is no non religious coherent argument against gay marriage as claimed.
Kris. I don't want to flog this to death. I would support gay marriage, no question. But is pointless discussing whether a change in the law would or would not change behaviour when we can clearly see that even with it as a prospect, behaviour has been changed. It is inevitable. If laws didn't change behaviour, what would be the point? I'm not be unnecessasarily argumentative, but it is just not the case that there is no non religious coherent argument against gay marriage as claimed. If you are an intelligent stu…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2012-06-17:1982180:Comment:11419242012-06-17T08:22:41.210ZRichhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/Rich164
<p>If you are an intelligent student and you research atheists reasons to non faith effectively enough, you too will have a reverse epiphany, an awakening as such. I hope you do for your sake because if you do you will be able to enjoy life much more instead of worrying over irrelevant bull shit each and every day.</p>
<p>If you are an intelligent student and you research atheists reasons to non faith effectively enough, you too will have a reverse epiphany, an awakening as such. I hope you do for your sake because if you do you will be able to enjoy life much more instead of worrying over irrelevant bull shit each and every day.</p> Society is slowly waking up t…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2012-06-17:1982180:Comment:11417562012-06-17T08:15:21.282ZRichhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/Rich164
<p>Society is slowly waking up to the nonsense of religion unfortuantely it wont be phased out completely while im walking the Earth. </p>
<p>Society is slowly waking up to the nonsense of religion unfortuantely it wont be phased out completely while im walking the Earth. </p> I would say the blatant disre…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2012-06-17:1982180:Comment:11418472012-06-17T05:35:17.099ZMichael Marrerohttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/MichaelMarrero
<p>I would say the blatant disregard for the separation of church and state (obviously in the U.S.) is one that comes to mind. </p>
<p>I would say the blatant disregard for the separation of church and state (obviously in the U.S.) is one that comes to mind. </p> Your argument are based on ha…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2012-06-17:1982180:Comment:11419092012-06-17T04:25:18.543ZOkinawa R.http://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/OkinawaR
<p>Your argument are based on hatred towards a particular religion, take a rest and think more on it.</p>
<p>this law is approved by the government to handle sparks that currently existed among the public.</p>
<p>This country is not your beloved full of justice country, why dont you come and live here a bit, then perhaps you'll understand.</p>
<p>Oh and i'll remind you that this is not a religious based country and stoning is not permitted.</p>
<p>Your argument are based on hatred towards a particular religion, take a rest and think more on it.</p>
<p>this law is approved by the government to handle sparks that currently existed among the public.</p>
<p>This country is not your beloved full of justice country, why dont you come and live here a bit, then perhaps you'll understand.</p>
<p>Oh and i'll remind you that this is not a religious based country and stoning is not permitted.</p> Archaeopteryx, the answer to…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2012-06-17:1982180:Comment:11416732012-06-17T01:43:48.538ZWard Cressinhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/WardCressin
<p><span style="line-height: 115%; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; font-size: 11pt; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">Archaeopteryx</span>, the answer to your second question is: nearly none. Consider for a moment what everyone is…</p>
<p><span style="line-height: 115%; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; font-size: 11pt; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">Archaeopteryx</span>, the answer to your second question is: nearly none. Consider for a moment what everyone is taught: that when you grow up and fall in love, you marry that one special person.</p>
<p><em><strong>To all:</strong></em></p>
<p>Why does no one realize that gays and lesbians are going to have the same expectations as their straight counterparts?</p>
<p>Some are not going to want to settle down. Some are going to want to marry. But because societies have been poisoned by religions no one allows gays and lesbians to be "normal" and marry.</p>