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04-29-2014 09:58 PM

Chip18

Quote:

Originally Posted by deacon

As a current Police Dog Handler, and former MWD handler, I for one do not allow anybody to socialize with my partner with the exception of saying hello and escorting me as backup on searches.

First and foremost my partner is not a pet as I have even told the mayor and a couple of councilmen and women, therefore he is not to be petted given treats nor to have pictures taken with unless I am included and they understand he is not going to be petted or held by anyone except me.

When conducting K-9 demonstrations I let the public know as well not because I don't want him to socialize but because he has been in several physical confrontations upon locating by scent or chasing bad guys then after being kicked, choked he has grown not to trust the human race as much any longer.

I have one other officer, our other handler(Drug) dog handler be friends with my partner in the event I become injured and can't handle him or if something should happen at home if I am not there. We often feed each others dog and play with them as well.

And pretty much this is my take on "this" incident, the handler did not know his dog! The whole hopping on "folks" things...says "Hey I'm a "folks friendly dog" then without a command the dogs bites the crap out of someone???

Hopping on folks, K9 "acting like a family pet" is a screw up in my book! Handler did not know his dog...whatever training the dog had allowed this behavior???

That's where I see the problem, pretty much as simple as that to me?

04-29-2014 08:49 PM

misslesleedavis1

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApselBear

I die a little on the inside every time I hear it

I listened to it today before I read this thread...it sorta hard to keep a straight face when you put the musical spin on situation. ..then with carmen"s whole I bit the sheriff but I did not bite the deputy post...my god its been random giggles all day.

I'd walk Fama through a schoolyard of kindergartners, and have done so many times. Sometimes they would even throw rocks and she would stay calm. I wouldn't do it the first couple months I had her though. She still thought she had to protect me from everything.

I definitely wouldn't let someone throw their arm around her right after an engagement, unless is was someone we trained with regularly.

My comment was specific to Lilie's where she said she did not want the dog to be a parade dog.

The police dogs in this area, though largely owner trained, are often at parades etc. And they do demos at the school. But yes, I think it is more like what Deacon says, the dogs are not handled, petted, hugged by anyone but the handler.

04-29-2014 07:19 PM

deacon

As a current Police Dog Handler, and former MWD handler, I for one do not allow anybody to socialize with my partner with the exception of saying hello and escorting me as backup on searches.

First and foremost my partner is not a pet as I have even told the mayor and a couple of councilmen and women, therefore he is not to be petted given treats nor to have pictures taken with unless I am included and they understand he is not going to be petted or held by anyone except me.

When conducting K-9 demonstrations I let the public know as well not because I don't want him to socialize but because he has been in several physical confrontations upon locating by scent or chasing bad guys then after being kicked, choked he has grown not to trust the human race as much any longer.

I have one other officer, our other handler(Drug) dog handler be friends with my partner in the event I become injured and can't handle him or if something should happen at home if I am not there. We often feed each others dog and play with them as well.

04-29-2014 07:13 PM

David Winners

Quote:

Originally Posted by selzer

I thought they had the dogs at parades, street fairs, fairs, community events, to kind of deter criminal activity.

I'd walk Fama through a schoolyard of kindergartners, and have done so many times. Sometimes they would even throw rocks and she would stay calm. I wouldn't do it the first couple months I had her though. She still thought she had to protect me from everything.

I definitely wouldn't let someone throw their arm around her right after an engagement, unless is was someone we trained with regularly.

04-29-2014 07:10 PM

David Winners

It's not all black and white.

New dog, fresh off the plane from Holland, lived in a kennel it's entire life, new handler, just got out of school, doesn't really have a feel for things yet and is excited about his new partner, one of their first big missions so the excitement level is really high... accidents happen.

Experienced dog and handler, been working together for a while, been on a lot of missions, used to turning it on and off because it's a normal part of life now, dog understands what the other guys in uniform are... totally different outcome.

15 minutes after your first firefight, you will still be in fight mode, tunnel vision, sick to your stomach, can't feel your lips, all that fun stuff.

6 months in and it's still a rush, but it's only about 20% of what it used to be. You learn to cope with the stress and moderate your body. Dogs go through the same thing. Training only goes so far to prepare you for the real thing, and when it is the real thing and you are not used to it, it can be tough to handle.

04-29-2014 06:31 PM

selzer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lilie

IMO - I don't want a police dog to be a parade dog. I like the idea that when a dog is sent in that dog is nothing but business. As an innocent bystander, I'll take a dog bite before I'd take a bullet hole. As a tax payer, I want to think that the dog is going to protect the officer with it's life. Just as the officer is going to protect me with his/her life.

I thought they had the dogs at parades, street fairs, fairs, community events, to kind of deter criminal activity.

04-29-2014 06:20 PM

Lilie

Quote:

Originally Posted by selzer

I like the idea of police dogs that can sniff out drugs, subdue criminals, and do kindergarten demonstrations in schools, and patrol at community events like street fairs and parades. Perhaps that isn't reasonable.

IMO - I don't want a police dog to be a parade dog. I like the idea that when a dog is sent in that dog is nothing but business. As an innocent bystander, I'll take a dog bite before I'd take a bullet hole. As a tax payer, I want to think that the dog is going to protect the officer with it's life. Just as the officer is going to protect me with his/her life.