It seems to be the definitions of conservative and liberals changes over time. Like now we have "progressive liberals" who promote racism towards
whites as a main stream idea. There's nothing progressive about that of course, but there it is.

Lets be honest here: Southerners were opposed to slavery because they were manipulated by propaganda. Slavery made employment a rare thing, and it
benefitted only the few wealthy people who monetized free labor.

The average person was getting screwed by it. And thinking about all those slaves being free to choke the slim job market was scary. They didn't see
the potential economic boom to them by having jobs open up....because of propaganda.

Its the purse strings, man. Quit trying to fight with your neighbor...they are being duped. Just like you, thinking what we have is "progress".
LOL...progress right back to 1895, when there was no industry to feed our wallets.

Well you do know that any tag is contextual and limited? Jefferson was politically liberal but culturally conservative. That sort of thing. Depends on
angle of view, a prism if you will.

You could even say liberals, in the US, are historically conservative in regards to power application and suspicion toward the rights of the people
possessing powers traditional in possession of the state.

I've thought about this quite a bit myself. It really just comes down to bad ideas being bad ideas, and the resentment of change by a lot of people on
the right.

It also has to do with the almost fanatical belief in "tradition" that makes a person value an idea just to honor the people who came before them. No
matter the damage it may cause.

People who follow that type of thinking will always be on the wrong side of history, given enough time. And it isn't as political as everyone thinks.
Change is the only constant in life, and to fight that simple fact will inevitably leave you on the wrong side of history.

That's life. The world has been leading to a multicultural, multiracial, world from the moment someone put a boat in the water to seek out new
cultures and knowledge. To fight the natural progression of our species will inevitably place a person on the wrong side of history.

REALLY????? How soon you forget, or want to rewrite history. Two big ones Democrats were on the wrong side of were Slavery( Democrats were
Pro-Slavery_ Republicans ended it, and civil rights,( the Democrats were dragged kicking and screaming on the civil rights act) And never mind the KKK
was born from the democrat party. And never mind the Conservatives are the ones that are for individual liberty, while the liberals tend to lean to
socialist or authoritarian rule. You might want to do some more reading before you post.

History often teaches there is no greater evil than the one represented by those who claim to act on the 'right' side of history.

As for your cartoon caricature of America political history, bravo for keeping youself entertained and safely away from the more uncomfortable
complexities of the human condition, that when more properly understood, might actually lead to solutions that would improve the world around us.

This is about conservative/liberal. Back then, the Southern Democrats were conservative (i.e., states rights, less federal government, less taxes,
etc.). The Southern states are still full of conservatives - they just switched parties.

The parties didn't switch the way it is portrayed by the left. The Republicans shifted a bit to the left from where they were in those days, but the
Democrats leaped frog to the left of them to stay in power and attract the votes from minorities. In the end they just switched the minorities to
another form of slavery, indentureship to the Government. Today politicians from both parties Democrat/Republican are no angels, many in their ranks
now and in the past are/were corrupt. They serve special interests and the military industrial complex for their own gains. They cheat and lie to stay
in power, instead of fighting for the people and their liberty. They foment division to keep the public fighting amongst themselves so that they can
do their deeds unhindered. But believe what ever you want, nothing in this thread will change anyone's minds.

And as far as abortion goes, I would argue liberals are on the wrong side with wanting to kill innocent babies . It is funny most liberals are against
the death penalty, so they don't want a grown person who has killed people to be killed but are ok with abortion. Explain that. And don't give me that
womens right to choose. They also have the right to choose to not have sex, also don't trot out the incest/rape, as they only apply to a small amount
of abortions performed. Most abortions are used as birth control.

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