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Re: Putin says Russia should aim to sell energy in roubles

Originally Posted by joG

I think you really believe these things. Of course I know the tape. But the thing was already under way and in deterioration at that time. There was only crisis management left to do. What the tape does show, is the utter despair of the way the EU had handled it. It was as bad as Genscher in Yugoslavia.

Well yeah, having listened to them. And I'm not defending the EU's handling of things either.

Re: Putin says Russia should aim to sell energy in roubles

Originally Posted by joG

That is wise.

My concern is with the US and its interventionist policies.

"That's some pretty impressive tradecraft," said Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland of the interception and leak of her now-infamous call to US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoff Pyatt. The call consisted of the two plotting to install a US puppet government in Ukraine after overthrowing the current, democratically elected government.

Tradecraft means "spycraft." In other words, Nuland was crediting a foreign intelligence service with impressive use of technology to be able to hack into her call to the ambassador. Everyone knew she was talking about Russia, partly because the Administration had been blaming Russia from the moment the recording was made public.

Re: Putin says Russia should aim to sell energy in roubles

Originally Posted by Montecresto

My concern is with the US and its interventionist policies.

"That's some pretty impressive tradecraft," said Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland of the interception and leak of her now-infamous call to US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoff Pyatt. The call consisted of the two plotting to install a US puppet government in Ukraine after overthrowing the current, democratically elected government.

Tradecraft means "spycraft." In other words, Nuland was crediting a foreign intelligence service with impressive use of technology to be able to hack into her call to the ambassador. Everyone knew she was talking about Russia, partly because the Administration had been blaming Russia from the moment the recording was made public.

Well, after the EU, the Russians did take the front seat on escalating this thing.

Re: Putin says Russia should aim to sell energy in roubles

Originally Posted by Dittohead not!

So, it's the fault of the US that Putin decided to annex Crimea and try to do the same with the Ukraine?

Essentially. You've been here all along. Along with the rest of us, didn't you witness Russia, in response to the Maiden Square riots that toppled the Ukrainian government, move into Crimea to secure Russia's assets and people?