gunsnewing wrote:No. The game was lost in the 1st quarter. Right in line with the Sacramento loss and the recent trend

When Amare came in, the score was 23-20. Hardly out of reach.

No question it was not the time to let Amare work out his rust but like others have said it was needed to cross that theshold for the long haul. We game out flat again the first few minutes giving up countless offensive rebs to Hickson and Alridge and allowing them to get in the paint with ease. Tyson took the blame but blame it on his ankle. Doesn't explain the month long trend though

NUPE wrote:The Knicks bricked multiple open shots all game and played bad defense most of the game. It's laughable that a few tried to blame Amar'e for this loss. As for Melo, he played a great game all around. I don't see how anyone could reasonably claim otherwise.

Amare could definitely be the reason why we lost. He was way off and his defense stunk.

However, we certainly need to get him in the flow even if it meant that we had to eat this game.

Are ball movement was very good and we bricked open shots. That did not help and can be blamed as well.

The Knicks lost as a team. There is no one to be singled out. The defense was horrid all around and everyone not named Melo or JR was missing open shots.

You can't always win because of X player but only lose because of the team.

If they don't brick? We win.

If Amare does not play? We probably win even with the bricks.

Just like we won against the Kings, without Amar'e, who are worse than the Blazers... Oh Wait!

dk7th wrote:who are the captains of the knicks? they need to step it up and set the example. leaders of the team need to set the tone defensively.

The captain is the teams MVP. Kidd.

seriously, who is the captain of the knicks? or co-captains?

Chandler and Melo

Melo has been working hard this year on defense while Chandler took a giant leap backward.

Simple good cop bad cop scenario

then they need to step up. honestly the way chandler has been lagging the coach must reduce his minutes. straight from high school players where down unless their initials are mm or kg.

Chandler has been this player for 80 pct of his career.

Melo has stepped up to the moon. The dude has a sprained ankle, stitches in his finger and a sprained MCL. The dude is showing what it means to give it your all at 85 pct.

he is taking 24 shots a game and expending energy on the downhill side of the court but he can't demand the same of himself and his teammates on the uphill side? you mean he can't simply say "i am playing hurt and playing as hard as i can. we can score but we need to smother them. lets stop them first and then worry about scoring."

simple!

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%

dk7th wrote:who are the captains of the knicks? they need to step it up and set the example. leaders of the team need to set the tone defensively.

The captain is the teams MVP. Kidd.

seriously, who is the captain of the knicks? or co-captains?

Chandler and Melo

Melo has been working hard this year on defense while Chandler took a giant leap backward.

Simple good cop bad cop scenario

then they need to step up. honestly the way chandler has been lagging the coach must reduce his minutes. straight from high school players where down unless their initials are mm or kg.

Chandler has been this player for 80 pct of his career.

Melo has stepped up to the moon. The dude has a sprained ankle, stitches in his finger and a sprained MCL. The dude is showing what it means to give it your all at 85 pct.

he is taking 24 shots a game and expending energy on the downhill side of the court but he can't demand the same of himself and his teammates on the uphill side? you mean he can't simply say "i am playing hurt and playing as hard as i can. we can score but we need to smother them. lets stop them first and then worry about scoring."

simple!

Do you feel that Melo has not given his all on defense this year? Or, at least has shown significant improvement? He is defending his butt off.

tkf wrote:i was wondering when Iwould start hearing that..... I have heard that regarding carmelo for the past 10 years.. the same thing... everyone else around him is the reason for losing or failing or underachieving.....

maybe carmelo is the unluckiest guy in the NBA, or just maybe he isn't good at making anyone else around him better....regardless of what he does....

either way, I don't see how any of those two scenarios is promising..

Did you watch the game?

Knicksfan: Hypocrite league that fines players after the game for flopping but in the game and with obvious flopping they call the fouls.

tkf wrote:i was wondering when Iwould start hearing that..... I have heard that regarding carmelo for the past 10 years.. the same thing... everyone else around him is the reason for losing or failing or underachieving.....

maybe carmelo is the unluckiest guy in the NBA, or just maybe he isn't good at making anyone else around him better....regardless of what he does....

either way, I don't see how any of those two scenarios is promising..

Did you watch the game?

Knicksfan: Hypocrite league that fines players after the game for flopping but in the game and with obvious flopping they call the fouls.