Deathgreeter Discussion

6 days ago

Undying Evil is actually meant to be used more as a combo piece than as one time protection or recursion effect; it essentially functions as a one drop creature with undying since it can make any creature in the deck gain undying. It's especially fun with something like Wurmcoil Engine, though at that point it'd just be overkill lol.

Fleshwrither is a great card to have since it puts creatures directly onto the field. Good for searching out things like
Endling
,
Sengir Autocrat
, or
Vindictive Vampire
for value or to close games out. It actually technically won me a game today by placing Vindictive Vampire on the field, after which I gave it
Phyresis
and finished an excessively long game out of nowhere.

I think that my cuts will be
Deathgreeter
and
Bontu's Monument
. I'm really kind of iffy about cutting them, but I have three other Artist effects that actually ping opponents. The cost reduction from the artifact is nice, but most of my creatures aren't terribly expensive and I haven't really had many issues in having sufficient mana for my turns.

I'd definitely welcome more cut suggestions, though, from you or anyone else who wants to comment. Anyway, thanks for your advice!

Gravecrawler
with
Carrion Feeder
and
Aetherflux Reservoir
is a combo to win the game with Reservoir. Feeder because it's a Zombie with Phyrexian mana lets you cast Gravecrawler from your graveyard for 2 life. These two without Reservior have other utility such as adding many counters to Krrik since each time you cast Gravecrawler from your graveyard. Extort (
Pontiff of Blight
,
Crypt Ghast
) is also good with this Zombie interaction.

Winter Orb
because of Phyrexian mana affects you less than opponents. This is vile land disruption.
Font of Agonies
with Phyrexian mana which can power it both ways getting a lot of counters and letting you destroy a creature for , 2 life. This card can keep your opponents from having a lot creatures on the battlefield.

You're playing a lot of high mana cost creatures which makes fast reanimation (
Entomb
,
Reanimate
) powerful especially with Vilis and Razaketh. Might even want to consider expanding even more with reanimation. If choosing to attack with Krrik infect is vile.
Glistening Oil
can be nasty since when a +1/+1 counter is put on him it takes away the -1/-1 counter that Oil puts on him.

In your forum topic you said you're not worried about reducing the high avg. CMC by cutting high CMC creatures because you can pay Phyrexian mana to reduce their cost. This is true to some degree, but you're not always in every game going to have Krrik on the battlefield, access to Phyrexian mana, and the times when this happens then having a lower avg. CMC will allow you to actually play Magic.

The other problem is why play worse high CMC creatures then
Vilis, Broker of Blood
,
Pontiff of Blight
,
Sheoldred, Whispering One
or
Reiver Demon
? There's no reason to jam a bunch of other high CMC creatures just because you can. These creatures especially the interaction of Vilis, Pontiff with Krrik are better than all the other high CMC creatures who are within the budget here. You would rather draw them then the others therefore make it easier to draw them and don't include lots of other high CMC creatures?

Pontiff of Blight
giving extort to all creatures you control is good especially if you're playing a life gain strategy. Extort can be paid for with Phyrexian mana, that's what makes it busted. Each extort trigger can be paid with 2 life, but if you have three opponents you gain 3 life for each trigger, you gain 1 life per opponents who loss life. This means you extort for free and also gain 1 life after each trigger. Even if you only have two opponents you're still getting to extort for free because of Phyrexian mana.

Before you can do anything with Krrik and Phyrexian mana you have to get him on the battlefield and this means getting four mana (colorless or black). First priority for upgrades to consider is adding more early game ramp that's within the budget:

Cremate, Wisps, Tainted are not usually playable cards, but with Krrik they are because they're free to cast and most draw a card. For one mana or free Symmetry can get you
Necropotence
into your hand.

Two drops are also good, not as good as one drops, but still good value with Phyrexian mana:

Dross Harvester
might be better than
Deathgreeter
, as well. Sacrificing 3 creatures with Teysa out gains you 6 life with Deathgreeter and 12-4=8 life with Harvester. Though since their cmcs are different and I don't really have a grasp of how fast EDH is it's hard for me to say without testing.

Deathgreeter occurrence in decks from the last year

Commander / EDH:

All decks: 0.01%

Black: 0.12%

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