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Yes to DT. DT and ILB are top 2 needs. Next to K but no way I spend a 1 - 3 on K. F that.

No to another OG to stack on top of the two OGs we drafted 2 and 3 last year. Craving beef is fine but at some point we need to decide we have drafted enough OGs. I’m there now. If its a RT, I’m with you, OG - no.

Dude, he said DAY 3, not 3rd round.

<best Foghorn Leghorn voice> Pay, I said pay attention, son!

"Believe nothing-- no matter where you read it, or who has said it, even if I have said it-- unless it agrees with your own reason, and your own common sense."

Ok ... ok. Fair - i don’t read drunk so i didn’t see this perspective. Perhaps its fair to expect an inebriated reader could drunkenly misconstrue my K comment to have a straight line track to poster’s day 3 comment. that wasn’t my intention. it was a different supporting comment on the same topic of K to quell any uprising in the village to spend a top 3 on a K because of last year. That is my comment. It allows a day 3 pick but adds the clarity of prohibiting a Day 1/2 pick. Maybe i’ll draw a Venn diagram or something next time.

Bosa Burger with Ingram Crackers ... lip smackin’ good

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Ok ... ok. Fair - i don’t read drunk so i didn’t see this perspective. Perhaps its fair to expect an inebriated reader could drunkenly misconstrue my K comment to have a straight line track to poster’s day 3 comment. that wasn’t my intention. it was a different supporting comment on the same topic of K to quell any uprising in the village to spend a top 3 on a K because of last year. That is my comment. It allows a day 3 pick but adds the clarity of prohibiting a Day 1/2 pick. Maybe i’ll draw a Venn diagram or something next time.

I certainly hope so.

Your paragraph, above, reads like the set of assembly directions that came in the crate of that patio furniture I bought that was manufactured in Berserkistan.

"Believe nothing-- no matter where you read it, or who has said it, even if I have said it-- unless it agrees with your own reason, and your own common sense."

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Your paragraph, above, reads like the set of assembly directions that came in the crate of that patio furniture I bought that was manufactured in Berserkistan.

did you ever get it assembled? I can draw you an exploded assembly diagram if that might help but if you can't trace a straight line through a drilled hole due to blurred vision - it probably won't help much.

ps: i care ...

Bosa Burger with Ingram Crackers ... lip smackin’ good

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Ok ... ok. Fair - i don’t read drunk so i didn’t see this perspective. Perhaps its fair to expect an inebriated reader could drunkenly misconstrue my K comment to have a straight line track to poster’s day 3 comment. that wasn’t my intention. it was a different supporting comment on the same topic of K to quell any uprising in the village to spend a top 3 on a K because of last year. That is my comment. It allows a day 3 pick but adds the clarity of prohibiting a Day 1/2 pick. Maybe i’ll draw a Venn diagram or something next time.

Well Forest can certainly relate to that

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did you ever get it assembled? I can draw you an exploded assembly diagram if that might help but if you can't trace a straight line through a drilled hole due to blurred vision - it probably won't help much.

ps: i care ...

YOU CAN DRAW EXPLODING DIAGRAMS?!?

Eye LOVE exploding diagrams!!!

Maybe you can invite the whole forum to your crib, and show us your etchings.

"Believe nothing-- no matter where you read it, or who has said it, even if I have said it-- unless it agrees with your own reason, and your own common sense."

Probably not very much, but as the saying goes "It doesn't take very much <crap> to ruin the entire kettle of stew."

think that's a bit of a sensitive subject for him as he made mention that he is not Manziel 2.0, and.... he continued to show he is the better option than Josh Allen.... question is, will someone think he's a better option than Josh Rosen ?? one commentary/storyline that I tend to agree w/is that players gravitate toward him and like playing w/for him, and.... however unrelated, saw a picture where he's got pretty good sized thighs for a guy his size, which recalls Brett Favre for me, as I met him once in Diego when in town for the SB, and recall that Favre didn't look so easy to bring down, due in a large part to some XL thighs....

Kyle Lauletta received a fair bit of oohlalas after his last practice @the SB, one pundit even going so far to say that he may be the most obvious next in line heir apparent to Brady for Mr. Bill & Co.... not buying the one day hype, and.... welcome to the SB.

Josh Allen was again dramatically inconsistent, and still party to his misguided hype train, and.... some peoples even doing their best to make a case for Luke Falk.... like the guy some, but still not a wise use of draft capital, at least for us at this moment in time, and....

it's Baker Mayfield by a mile, as don't think he's any riskier a pick than Darnold and/or Rosen, as long as you can handle his off field antics/misgivings.... which is a big factor me thinx, and a deal breaker if I'm a Chargers FO brass tactician.

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Yes to DT. DT and ILB are top 2 needs. Next to K but no way I spend a 1 - 3 on K. F that.

No to another OG to stack on top of the two OGs we drafted 2 and 3 last year. Craving beef is fine but at some point we need to decide we have drafted enough OGs. I’m there now. If its a RT, I’m with you, OG - no.

how do you figure LB is a top need and who are you replacing on the field.... one of Bradley's 5 or 6 DBs, Denzel, Jatavius ?? and are you sure that Roquan is that much better than Brown ?? that Evans is better than Perryman, and yes Tremaine might be awful good, but are you certain that our D wouldn't be better served by the likes of a Vita Vea, Maurice Hurst or DaRon Payne.... me thinx the latter are closer to Jamal than the former anywhere close to holding a candle to Jr.

and wouldn't mind an OT in the draft, but find me one that's a sound/solid pick, and whereas there are prolly close to a handful of very solid/safe interior linemen.... don't want to rest on my laurels, nor take anything for granted (cough.... FL @guard/tackle), as think it wise to draft an Olineman every year, and earlier than later (first three rounds) by my take.... if the Combine and SB don't bump him into the first or early second, will take Isaiah Wynn all day, and over the likes of McGlinchey too.

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Rashaad Penny got stuffed again, and read where peoples are questioning his blocking acumen on third down.... not making money yet, and may have slipped a round or two as of now.

some peoples are touting the other RBs, but did read a coupla few places that they thought Jaylen Samuels might be the best RB out there, and that he is even better as a pass catcher/receiving option.... could be our Ronnie Harmon 2.0

James Washington continued to get big ups @wideout, and Allen Lazard and Marcell Ateman did better day two than one.... peoples like Jaleel Scott's footwork, but reading between the lines, still sounds like he's a work in progress.... Michael Gallup thought of as somewhat unspectacular but very effective/efficient....

TE Mike Gesicki recovered from his day one semi debacle and apparently had a handful of nice grabs as a receiving TE.... Troy Fumagalli also got a bit more love day two than he had day one.

lotsa love for Tyrell Crosby @OT (major injury concern as a reminder), and ditto for Isaiah Wynn.... Will Hernandez still mowing peoples down, and Austin Corbett still doing well, but perhaps a notch below Crosby and Wynn, and.... Brandon Parker not getting it done.

DE/OLB Marcus Davenport falling off a bit on second day of SB practice.... DaShawn Hand getting stymied, and peoples still like Harrison Phillips.... not eye, as thinkin' he's a tier two guy at best, and.... would like a top shelf round one run stopper pls.

Dorian O'Daniel got some love as an undersized coverage LB, but personally think we've already got that w/Jatavius, just gotta show him the field Gus, and.... would rather spend the draft capital on DBs that can cover and that have enough size and aren't afraid to come up against the run, i.e. Tony Brown.

Armani Watts was praised for his pass defense at safety, and someone noted that Kameron Kelly (SDSU) was gonna have to play safety in the pros.

Daniel Carlson hit three straight FGs from 52 yards.

other peoples got some press but no one else that I care to give ink for, nor do I think they move the needle for the LAC.

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so tired of reading how we don't need a NT/DT cuz he's only a rotational/two down player.... hogwash/poppy****.... those are the two downs that are killing us !! almost 5ypc against us.... if we stop the run, third down becomes a much more tolerable proposition....

am gonna guess that Hurst and Lamar are under LAC consideration.... hoping McGlinchey is not.... Quentin Nelson would be hard to pass up, and unfortunately history says we will pass on VV....

Mball will be happy to see that they have Ragnow in round one, and no BP.... like Tyrell Crosby, but not w/his injury history.... perhaps a bigger mistake/more risky than McGlinchey ??

personally am taking Vea over Nelson, despite the pundits preference for the Irishman.... we have to stop the run.... Lamp is coming back, Isaiah Wynn, save for Daniel Jeremiah, is hopefully available round two.

Not at all happy about it. I want Ragnow to fall to the Chargers in the 2nd round.

I'd take Nelson over Vea. We also need to run the ball. Nelson is as close there is to a lock in this draft.

Vea has great potential; however, there's several things that worry me about him. Something just doesn't look right. Don't like his hand usage & he has a tendency to play too tall. Will he overpower NFL players like he does PAC offensive linemen? Probably not - he needs better technique. Will he get fat like a lot of players his body shape tend to do? Telesco will be hesitant to draft a big player like Vea, unless he has a great desire (which i hear is true), and somewhat of a mean streak. That's why he drafted Fluker.

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so tired of reading how we don't need a NT/DT cuz he's only a rotational/two down player.... hogwash/poppy****.... those are the two downs that are killing us !! almost 5ypc against us.... if we stop the run, third down becomes a much more tolerable proposition....

am gonna guess that Hurst and Lamar are under LAC consideration.... hoping McGlinchey is not.... Quentin Nelson would be hard to pass up, and unfortunately history says we will pass on VV....

Mball will be happy to see that they have Ragnow in round one, and no BP.... like Tyrell Crosby, but not w/his injury history.... perhaps a bigger mistake/more risky than McGlinchey ??

personally am taking Vea over Nelson, despite the pundits preference for the Irishman.... we have to stop the run.... Lamp is coming back, Isaiah Wynn, save for Daniel Jeremiah, is hopefully available round two.

Not at all happy about it. I want Ragnow to fall to the Chargers in the 2nd round.

I'd take Nelson over Vea. We also need to run the ball. Nelson is as close there is to a lock in this draft.

Vea has great potential; however, there's several things that worry me about him. Something just doesn't look right. Don't like his hand usage & he has a tendency to play too tall. Will he overpower NFL players like he does PAC offensive linemen? Probably not - he needs better technique. Will he get fat like a lot of players his body shape tend to do? Telesco will be hesitant to draft a big player like Vea, unless he has a great desire (which i hear is true), and has somewhat of a mean streak. That's why he drafted Fluker.

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1) DT Vita Vea * still have a sneakin' suspicion that Mo Hurst is very high on the Chargers wish list, and can't say DaRon Payne ain't a major consideration as well, and.... just think Vea is a Charger !! as stated above so disagree that LB is the problem.... we have two darn good LBs, the problem has been when Denzel is on the sidelines and we haven't had anyone to spell him, and Jatavius (or most anyone else) is just not as good without Perryman nearby.... my response is Jon Bostic in FA pls.... if we are thinking SB (and I hope we are) we have no excuse for not taking care of stopping the run.... our offense is not 31st ranked in the league.

2) OL Isaiah Wynn * pls reach for this guy.... he is overflowing w/intangibles, and can play any position on the line, and play them all well.... like Billy Price in round one, and he is a fine fall back option there, albeit there are just not the DTs available here as there are @17, as there are three bona fide big time D tackles that could be there for us round one, and.... personally have no worries 'bout Okung and Barks, save of course for the usual injury concerns, but talent wise we are just fine.... so what Joe isn't a road grader on O.... Phil's health is way more important than a few extra MG3 yards, and.... not to mention Wynn and maybe Lamp can hedge/fill in for ol' Joe for those naysayers.

3) FS Tony Brown * just see this guy as a super bad *** and think he's the guy for Bradley's single high.... he did lose his starting job @Alabama and maybe he drops and lands in TT's lap round 5, which would continue his mastery at that slot, and if WR Michael Gallup is somehow still on board, do think he's gonna be that one ultra dependable/consistent wideout w/great value from this draft, and.... T. Brown can play CB and FS and cover pretty much the whole field, and at the same time is not afraid to play the run.... think he's gonna be sumthin'.

4) WR Cedrick Wilson * he is falling to the fifth by some accounts, albeit think he is the ideal/perfect replacement for if and when we decide not to resign Travis B. he is productive, returns kicks and is good value down here, and may not be there a round later.... two other guys that are listed as third rounders that if they are still hanging 'round seem like near can't miss OL prospects are Jamarco Jones and Austin Corbett, the first of which me thinks is better slotted at the end of the first, and while Corbett has risen up the charts from day three to day two.

6) K Michael Badgley * can hit 'em from deep.... don't think we have any choice in the matter.

I don't disagree with the players you have listed..... but greatly disagree that LB is not a huge need?.....

Perryman and Brown are good backups/situational/match up type rotational players...... neither is a FT dominating LBer.....

The Chargers have lacked a REAL, big, fast, physical every down, do anything and everything LB including being a buck stops here sure tackling machine, since Seau....... most teams have at least one of those and Chargers have zero...... all our current LBers are rotational backup types, not every down LBers......

I agree we need a dominant DT, but we also desperately need a great every down LBer who we can count on to dominate every week of season.....

at 17, depending on how draft falls, we might have a choice of 4th rated or lower OL, 3rd to 5th rated DL, or maybe top rated LBer on board.....

We have so many needs, Whoever is the best value, should be who we take...... whoever is the surest choice.....

Ive seen mocks that had Chargers reaching for the 4th rated run blocking OT(8th rated pass blocking)...... but letting top dominating LBer from georgia still on the board.... is a starting or future RT worth more than a dominating every down LBer who can cover, rush and is a tackling machine?

years ago the biggest reason the Chargers stuffed the run and got so many picks and turnovers was Seau...... the actual threat of him pass rushing scared QB's so much they threw balls almost instantly if Seau too a step toward LOS......

great DL's and LBers are difference makers..... dominating against the run would force every team into pass mode....mode QB's are not great enough to handle that.....