Guns

In lieu of the horrific school shooting in CT today there is an ongoing conversation on my home board. An American woman posted that she is going to apply for a conceal and carry permit. All of the Canadian and UK moms are attacking her saying things like "the way to prevent gun violence is not by putting more guns on the street". One woman said "it would never even occur to me to pull a weapon on an intruder". I live out in the country and don't have any close neighbors. We have a shotgun in the closet for protection. My SO works out of state during the week and I'm home alone a lot. If I felt threatened by an intruder I wouldn't think twice about using our shotgun. Hopefully, it would be just to threaten and wouldn't come to me firing it. Especially with having a child soon I feel better knowing the gun is there (it will be properly locked up when baby comes). How do you guys feel about owning a gun for protection?

In lieu of the horrific school shooting in CT today there is an ongoing conversation on my home board. An American woman posted that she is going to apply for a conceal and carry permit. All of the Canadian and UK moms are attacking her saying things like "the way to prevent gun violence is not by putting more guns on the street". One woman said "it would never even occur to me to pull a weapon on an intruder". I live out in the country and don't have any close neighbors. We have a shotgun in the closet for protection. My SO works out of state during the week and I'm home alone a lot. If I felt threatened by an intruder I wouldn't think twice about using our shotgun. Hopefully, it would be just to threaten and wouldn't come to me firing it. Especially with having a child soon I feel better knowing the gun is there (it will be properly locked up when baby comes). How do you guys feel about owning a gun for protection?

"Before you assume, learn the facts. Before you judge, understand why. Before you hurt someone, feel. Before you speak, think."

From:
BoomBatty

To: ALL

Posted: Dec-14 04:28 PM (2 of 44)

As a member of the military and as a retired civil servant, I can say that it isn't the guns that kill people, it's people who kill people. Guns are only tools and without someone's finger on the trigger, they are useless. Now, I also believe that if someone wants to own a gun, it is my belief that they need to go through a pych eval and weapons safety training. People these days are way too careless with their firearms and there needs to be more stringent sanctions for those who are careless with their firearms. I am quite sure I will be attacked for this post, so all I can can is "Bring it!"

As a member of the military and as a retired civil servant, I can say that it isn't the guns that kill people, it's people who kill people. Guns are only tools and without someone's finger on the trigger, they are useless. Now, I also believe that if someone wants to own a gun, it is my belief that they need to go through a pych eval and weapons safety training. People these days are way too careless with their firearms and there needs to be more stringent sanctions for those who are careless with their firearms. I am quite sure I will be attacked for this post, so all I can can is "Bring it!"

"Before you assume, learn the facts. Before you judge, understand why. Before you hurt someone, feel. Before you speak, think."

From:
Almostdone84

To: ALL

Posted: Dec-14 04:38 PM (4 of 44)

I don't know why you'd feel attacked...your post was totally reasonable. Like JHof76 we live out on a property as well and own guns for protection of our animals. As a Canadian, our gun laws are so flawed. They finally destroyed our gun registry as it was totally pointless, but it's still illegal to carry and if I'm not mistaken, even own any type of handgun. Yet, the criminals can carry whatever they want and get a slap on the wrist if they're caught. Where I'm from, if you can prove a bad childhood it's basically a free pass to be a criminal and not be accountable. I think it would go a long way in reducing our total gun crime if citizens were allowed to carry.

I don't know why you'd feel attacked...your post was totally reasonable. Like JHof76 we live out on a property as well and own guns for protection of our animals. As a Canadian, our gun laws are so flawed. They finally destroyed our gun registry as it was totally pointless, but it's still illegal to carry and if I'm not mistaken, even own any type of handgun. Yet, the criminals can carry whatever they want and get a slap on the wrist if they're caught. Where I'm from, if you can prove a bad childhood it's basically a free pass to be a criminal and not be accountable. I think it would go a long way in reducing our total gun crime if citizens were allowed to carry.

I am pretty on the fence about it. I believe in the right of law-abiding citizens to own firearms, but I don't think it's something that I will probably do in our house. If I do, they will be kept in a combo locked safe where only my wife and I know the combo by memory. I will not have my kids getting access to firearms...I remember being a kid and being fascinated by them. Kids lack the judgment necessary to handle them.

I'm not a proponent of assault-style weapons, though...personally, I think those should be limited to military/law enforcement use. Handguns and hunting weapons should be about all civilian owners should have access to, and only after stringent testing and background checks. Any lawful citizen wouldn't have a problem submitting to that process, if their reasons for owning a weapon are legitimate.

I am pretty on the fence about it. I believe in the right of law-abiding citizens to own firearms, but I don't think it's something that I will probably do in our house. If I do, they will be kept in a combo locked safe where only my wife and I know the combo by memory. I will not have my kids getting access to firearms...I remember being a kid and being fascinated by them. Kids lack the judgment necessary to handle them.

I'm not a proponent of assault-style weapons, though...personally, I think those should be limited to military/law enforcement use. Handguns and hunting weapons should be about all civilian owners should have access to, and only after stringent testing and background checks. Any lawful citizen wouldn't have a problem submitting to that process, if their reasons for owning a weapon are legitimate.

Boom I had a gun in my hand since I could walk. First was a .22 when I was 6 and than a 38 special when I was 8 I had lots of Gina more than other kids had video games. Grant it I grew up I'm west Monroe Louisiana now that people know we're that is because of duck commanders. But I believe education about guns at an early age is vital. And I agree with your post completely. You tell you kids not to touch the stove because it will hurt them and not to do things because they have negative e effect well this needs to be apart of parenting. Even if you don't own a gun or believe in them

Boom I had a gun in my hand since I could walk. First was a .22 when I was 6 and than a 38 special when I was 8 I had lots of Gina more than other kids had video games. Grant it I grew up I'm west Monroe Louisiana now that people know we're that is because of duck commanders. But I believe education about guns at an early age is vital. And I agree with your post completely. You tell you kids not to touch the stove because it will hurt them and not to do things because they have negative e effect well this needs to be apart of parenting. Even if you don't own a gun or believe in them

My husband is a Marine and has taught me gun safety(he has a permit to carry). I guess I would have to ask myself, how many of these people that shoot up places actually go through the process to get permission to carry a gun? Getting rid of guns wouldn't do anything, how would we defend ourselves and our children against the crazy people like this who most likely get guns illegally? This is a tragedy, and I can't imagine what these parents are going through.

My husband is a Marine and has taught me gun safety(he has a permit to carry). I guess I would have to ask myself, how many of these people that shoot up places actually go through the process to get permission to carry a gun? Getting rid of guns wouldn't do anything, how would we defend ourselves and our children against the crazy people like this who most likely get guns illegally? This is a tragedy, and I can't imagine what these parents are going through.

I wish more people had your experience. I was also raised with guns because my dad was military and a cop. He taught my siblings and me at an early age that guns aren't toys and are to be respected. I could unload a .22 and a .38 revolver the age of 4. He always kept them empty and locked out of our reach and separated from the ammunition, which to this day, I couldn't tell you where the ammo was.

I wish more people had your experience. I was also raised with guns because my dad was military and a cop. He taught my siblings and me at an early age that guns aren't toys and are to be respected. I could unload a .22 and a .38 revolver the age of 4. He always kept them empty and locked out of our reach and separated from the ammunition, which to this day, I couldn't tell you where the ammo was.

Well I'm sorry for offending you with my spelling. You're right it is spelled with "M". Please forgive my oversight. I don't know why the rest of the post would offend you though since I certainly agree with yours. Better gun safety laws are certainly what we need.

Well I'm sorry for offending you with my spelling. You're right it is spelled with "M". Please forgive my oversight. I don't know why the rest of the post would offend you though since I certainly agree with yours. Better gun safety laws are certainly what we need.

I have my CCW and always carry. I bet if someone was carrying at the theater that was shot up less people would have died. Crazy people kill elementary schoolers not guns. I can't wait until some of the hot topics women claim he must have done it because he was circumcised, vaccinated, spanked, not taken to church and allowed to play grand theft auto. Crazy people are born crazy.

I have my CCW and always carry. I bet if someone was carrying at the theater that was shot up less people would have died. Crazy people kill elementary schoolers not guns. I can't wait until some of the hot topics women claim he must have done it because he was circumcised, vaccinated, spanked, not taken to church and allowed to play grand theft auto. Crazy people are born crazy.

It's all good. I'm just proud of my military service, especially in being a Marine; it was the hardest thing I have ever done and I lost a few friends in the job I performed in the Marine Corps and I feel people trivialize what it is to be a Marine.

It's all good. I'm just proud of my military service, especially in being a Marine; it was the hardest thing I have ever done and I lost a few friends in the job I performed in the Marine Corps and I feel people trivialize what it is to be a Marine.

I understand. My husband has also lost friends during his service in the military. You have every right to take pride in your hard work and sacrifice as a Marine. I got on the computer and was able to edit the post and fix my error.

I understand. My husband has also lost friends during his service in the military. You have every right to take pride in your hard work and sacrifice as a Marine. I got on the computer and was able to edit the post and fix my error.

Absolutely. I think there are too many toy guns out there that shoot bubbles (etc) and its not teaching kids to respect the power behind them. My kids are going to have access to guns but not as toys. Gun safety classes as well. I want them to know how to use them and use them SMART, not as playthings.

Absolutely. I think there are too many toy guns out there that shoot bubbles (etc) and its not teaching kids to respect the power behind them. My kids are going to have access to guns but not as toys. Gun safety classes as well. I want them to know how to use them and use them SMART, not as playthings.

I had squirt guns and what not as a child and never once did I see a real gun as a plaything. I knew the difference even without anyone telling me because my family respected guns. I was raised in a family of hunters. We were around real guns quite a bit; from out first bb guns, hunting rifles and then hand guns used for target practice. It is the parent's job to first teach their children gun safety if they are going to have any sort of gun around. Also, gun safety class is a must for any child that will be around or handling a gun. I took my first class at age 12.

I had squirt guns and what not as a child and never once did I see a real gun as a plaything. I knew the difference even without anyone telling me because my family respected guns. I was raised in a family of hunters. We were around real guns quite a bit; from out first bb guns, hunting rifles and then hand guns used for target practice. It is the parent's job to first teach their children gun safety if they are going to have any sort of gun around. Also, gun safety class is a must for any child that will be around or handling a gun. I took my first class at age 12.

"Before you assume, learn the facts. Before you judge, understand why. Before you hurt someone, feel. Before you speak, think."

From:
babyjunebug0626

To: JHof76

Posted: Dec-14 06:45 PM (18 of 44)

I believe taking a way the right to carry will not solve these crimes. Taking away these rights of law abiding citizens leaves the guns to just the bad guys who will find away to get guns one way or another while leaving the good guys vulnerable and less protected. If I had my gun and was in that school situation I wouldn't have thought twice about permanently stopping that guy before so many were lost. I am pregnant and already a parent. I keep my guns safe from the kids, but have also taught my kids how to disarm and take the guns apart and how to put them together. I've taken the kids to the gun range and showed them how to safely use them. My kids respect the weapons and do not seek to play with them. Judge if you must, but I feel that gun use is circumstantial and any body can obtain one regardless of the laws. I would rather more responsible people carry so horrible people can be stopped in these situations of innocent shootings.

I believe taking a way the right to carry will not solve these crimes. Taking away these rights of law abiding citizens leaves the guns to just the bad guys who will find away to get guns one way or another while leaving the good guys vulnerable and less protected. If I had my gun and was in that school situation I wouldn't have thought twice about permanently stopping that guy before so many were lost. I am pregnant and already a parent. I keep my guns safe from the kids, but have also taught my kids how to disarm and take the guns apart and how to put them together. I've taken the kids to the gun range and showed them how to safely use them. My kids respect the weapons and do not seek to play with them. Judge if you must, but I feel that gun use is circumstantial and any body can obtain one regardless of the laws. I would rather more responsible people carry so horrible people can be stopped in these situations of innocent shootings.

Canada has somewhat decent gun laws. The registry was just a record of who in the country owned what. It was never difficult to obtain a rifle or shotgun. Owning a handgun is also not illegal. I own 2 as well as a 9mm carbine. You just need to take a 1-2 day course (or challenge a test), and apply for a license (they screen for any mental health issues). Yes it costs around $200 and a few months wait but I can literally call a gun store and have a restricted firearm mailed to my front door. Sorry I know that's not what the thread is about but just know you can own a gun as a Canadian!

Canada has somewhat decent gun laws. The registry was just a record of who in the country owned what. It was never difficult to obtain a rifle or shotgun. Owning a handgun is also not illegal. I own 2 as well as a 9mm carbine. You just need to take a 1-2 day course (or challenge a test), and apply for a license (they screen for any mental health issues). Yes it costs around $200 and a few months wait but I can literally call a gun store and have a restricted firearm mailed to my front door. Sorry I know that's not what the thread is about but just know you can own a gun as a Canadian!

Sounds like the difference in our situations is probably cultural. Like I said, I'm Canadian and guns are quite taboo (unless for hunting purposes). No one here would be getting a gun solely for the defense of their home and loved ones. If you have guns you're either a hunter or a criminal. You can't own or carry for the reason of personal safety. Rather than be influenced by my kids' peers (whose parents I know are not educating their kids about them) and let them play with them as toys, I'd rather just only allow very supervised and strict access to real guns. It would be so very different if we lived in a place where the innocent citizen had the right to carry and defend themselves and the majority of the population were educated as well...not so privileged here. Our military is practically invisible, you rarely ever see anyone in the Forces. That would also make a difference in Canadian thought on guns. I think it would command more respect to the weapon, to see that not only hoodlums and gang bangers carry guns.

Sounds like the difference in our situations is probably cultural. Like I said, I'm Canadian and guns are quite taboo (unless for hunting purposes). No one here would be getting a gun solely for the defense of their home and loved ones. If you have guns you're either a hunter or a criminal. You can't own or carry for the reason of personal safety. Rather than be influenced by my kids' peers (whose parents I know are not educating their kids about them) and let them play with them as toys, I'd rather just only allow very supervised and strict access to real guns. It would be so very different if we lived in a place where the innocent citizen had the right to carry and defend themselves and the majority of the population were educated as well...not so privileged here. Our military is practically invisible, you rarely ever see anyone in the Forces. That would also make a difference in Canadian thought on guns. I think it would command more respect to the weapon, to see that not only hoodlums and gang bangers carry guns.

Almost you can purchase a hand gun in alberta they are however a restricted weapon and they must be registered they only destroyed the long gun registry other than that yes I have a few items in the house that are more protection based than anything I grew up around rifles and handguns I think it is a right to own and use to protect yourself and family if new be after all there is some real but jobs out there

Almost you can purchase a hand gun in alberta they are however a restricted weapon and they must be registered they only destroyed the long gun registry other than that yes I have a few items in the house that are more protection based than anything I grew up around rifles and handguns I think it is a right to own and use to protect yourself and family if new be after all there is some real but jobs out there

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