So, now that we have had time to adjust and absorb the smoking ban, how do you feel about it? Was it a good thing, a bad thing, still an unholy infringement on our "civil rights", or do you just not care one way or another?

I am agnostic on smoking bans. I see their value and I can understand their detractors. I honestly just defer to local populations when it comes to them, I think it's perfectly fine for an election to determine which way that particular wind blows.

I'm not terribly interested or well read on the subject, anyway. I was just reading along, enjoying watching another AC meltdown, when all of a sudden: pop went the weasel.

4 out of 5 people don't smoke, so it's pretty easy to see which way the elections will go. I'm sure you feel the same way about other things, like, maybe, gay marriage?

4 out of 5 people don't smoke, so it's pretty easy to see which way the elections will go. I'm sure you feel the same way about other things, like, maybe, gay marriage?

No. He is only interested in civil liberties when they align with his own pet interests. If you take the time to educate him, and craft your sentences in a way that a child can understand them, he might be persuaded. I find that it's not really worth the effort.

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"As I walked out the door toward the gate that would lead to my freedom, I knew if I didn't leave my bitterness and hatred behind I'd still be in prison."

No, the point is about people being cavalier about other's rights and hopefully seeing what it's like being on the receiving end of that exchange.

I happen to be the guy with the power here, so, since I have the power to do it, it's ok right? I don't need a valid reason, I can just arbitrarily do it and everyone should just go along with it and be fine right? It's my opinion that these posters are better off taking a few days off. Since I think that's the case, it shouldn't matter what they think right? I don't have to take THEIR opinion on the matter since I know what's best.

The only point you made is that the right wing likes to insulate themselves from dissenting opinions. Enjoy your media bubble.

Also pretty off base calling me a liberal. I could post plenty of links from another forum where I get into huge arguments with actual liberals about stuff like food stamps, drones and public worker salaries. But I know it wouldn't matter, you'd just ignore it. People like you literally can't conceive that someone like me could be close to the center, but still recognize that Republicans have gone completely around the bend bat-shit crazy. It just refuses to bear purchase anywhere in your brain.

The only point you made is that the right wing likes to insulate themselves from dissenting opinions. Enjoy your media bubble.

Also pretty off base calling me a liberal. I could post plenty of links from another forum where I get into huge arguments with actual liberals about stuff like food stamps, drones and public worker salaries. But I know it wouldn't matter, you'd just ignore it. People like you literally can't conceive that someone like me could be close to the center, but still recognize that Republicans have gone completely around the bend bat-shit crazy. It just refuses to bear purchase anywhere in your brain.

The only point you made is that the right wing likes to insulate themselves from dissenting opinions. Enjoy your media bubble.

Also pretty off base calling me a liberal. I could post plenty of links from another forum where I get into huge arguments with actual liberals about stuff like food stamps, drones and public worker salaries. But I know it wouldn't matter, you'd just ignore it. People like you literally can't conceive that someone like me could be close to the center, but still recognize that Republicans have gone completely around the bend bat-shit crazy. It just refuses to bear purchase anywhere in your brain.

Reagan and Eisenhower would be liberals on this forum.

I specifically said I had NO CLUE if you were liberal or not. It was someone else who claimed I was picking on liberals. Get your facts straight.

Besides, this issue rarely falls directly along party lines, both political parties are far too inclined to give away OTHER PEOPLE'S rights when it suits their agenda. So your political leanings (which I honestly don't know since I don;t recall any substantial conversations with you in the past) have ZERO to do with this in my mind.

Really, this was just you losing your temper on yet another liberal who disagreed with you.

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

3 liberals and whatever the **** KCNATIVE is calling himself these days. Actually I have no clue if the 3 banned are all liberals, really doesn't make a lick of difference.

So, Direckshun claims I attacked A liberal and I correct him and point out it was 3. I then make it clear that, in fact, I have no clue if all 3 were liberal but that my statement was simply a correction of the use of the singular in his post which implied it was only one person who was targeted.

Pretty sure most people would read the exchange and conclude that I made it clear that I didn't know if the 3 were liberal or not. If you can''t see that then you may want to look into brushing up on your reading comprehension before you make it a habit of responding to my posts.