in washington.presidentobamaareamong those and other subjects will be at the top of the agenda. i am pleased to have saban at this table for the first time. welcome. it's great to have you here. so let me talk about israel. it is said mentioning the relationship you had with these people that netanyahu in his pierce opposition to this interim agreement between iran and the united states is not doing a great service to the united states. and the effort to find some possibility of going from an interim agreement to a final agreement. >> the prime minister is doing well. to keep the issue of iran top of the agenda. there could have been other ways to do it. so i'm not suggesting that he pick the best way. but that's the way he picked. but it's semantics. because the fundamentals are the following. president obama made it very clear iran will not have nuclear weapons. that's his red line. prime minister benjamin netanyahu said iran will not have nuclear weapons capability. that's his red line. but the difference between those two creates a certain gap. is that gap fundamental? no. because the bo

.presidentobamamadeit very clear, iran will not have nuclear weapons. that is his red line. prime minister netanyahu said, iran will not have nuclear weapons capability. that is his red line. but the difference between those two creates a certain gap. is that gap fundamental? no, because the bottom line is the same. they have different red lines, but they have the same bottom line. iran will not be a nuclear weapon country. this is what we have to and the, that israel united states are completely aligned on that issue. there might be different path to get to that result, and there might be disagreements along the , but theen friends bottom line, which is what is really important in life, is completely aligned. >> others come to this table and make the following argument. why now? the reason the iranians are talking is because of the sanctions. why not tie long more sanctions so they will not make an interim agreement that will say, ok, we can't live with the sanctions anymore, what is it you want? and therefore not only stop, freeze, but get them to dismantle the centrifuges? that would be

'm wrong it's not just me. >> that's right. and i believe like brennan says to me or netanyahuorobama, youknow, if-- you can't be naive. there are people who are mad, insane, hurt or angry, or greedy or whatever level you want to put on it, that will not go according to your plan. so you better have defences and you better be ready. i agree with that. but you must be as energetic and active about the peace process at the same time until you haven't a breath left in your body. why do you think saul has such compassion and tolerance for the bipolar issues. because he understands them. because he spernlsed them himself. >> depression. >> absolutely he did. he went through these things. saul. >> rose: do he with know that in the character yet. >> no, you don't know it but it's undeniable. whether it was his own life, personal, whether the writers ever divulge it. but i create my own scenario. i write my own script under your script. >> rose: you have a back story. >> my story is either it was his father that had these difficulties and he watchedded father son relationship in his own fami

at english ministers and american presidents. how many of them lost apparent inchildhood.obama, clinton,who is a fascinating case study who suffers is below early on -- >> his father was killed before he was born. >> he grows up in a kind of environment without that kind of safety net. do? does it it seems to have given him the strength. that pattern, we see that again and again and again among people. >> do you think that is a majority? >> i do not. i make the same argument with dyslexia. there is an born -- minority pattern. you see a large number of successful launch vendors have dyslexia. that is not a common response -- of successful entrepreneurs have dyslexia. that is not a common response. that is not the typical response. it is fascinating to see this bimodal response to what we would consider just to be a setback. >> do you think that -- i mean, it is often said that some large comediansercentage of come to comedy out of pain. >> you know it is funny, i was just reading the new biography of johnny carson. it talks about, the fascinating thing where his mother, who was the mos

a parent in childhood. look, wehaveobama, clintonis a fascinating case of someone who suffer this is extraordinary blow very early on in his life -- >> rose: his father was killed before he was born. >> and he grows up in an environment without that kind of safety net. and what does it do? it seems to have given him a kind of strength. you see that pattern again and again and again. >> rose: do you think that's the majority patern? >> no, i don't. i make the same argument with dyslexia where there's a minority pattern where you see a very large number of successful entrepreneurs have dyslexia. that's not the common response. and if you talk to them you'll say -- they'll say i am who i am because of my dyslexia not in spite of it. nonetheless, it's fascinating to see this bimodal response to what we would ordinary consider just to be a setback. >> rose: do you think that -- it's often said that some or a large percentage or at least a majority of comedians come to comedy out of pain. >> oh, you know what's funny? i was just reading that new biography of johnny carson. he talks

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