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Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

Originally Posted by Paleocon

If the good people of Kennasaw wish to exclude Islamic worship, that is their right.

No, it is not

“And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

Originally Posted by Somerville

No, it is not

Yes it is.

Originally Posted by Deuce

I don't think you're familiar with this document we call the United States Constitution.

I'm familiar with it. I'd point out it actually doesn't say anything like that a local government should treat all religions equally, but even if it did, the principles of sound government should prevail over it.

Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

Originally Posted by Deuce

Congratulations, you've managed to be a worse poster than the person you're insulting.

Thanks!

The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected.
-GK Chesterton

Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

Originally Posted by Paleocon

Yes it is.

I'm familiar with it. I'd point out it actually doesn't say anything like that a local government should treat all religions equally, but even if it did, the principles of sound government should prevail over it.

lmfao

The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected.
-GK Chesterton

Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

Originally Posted by digsbe

This is an infringement on religious freedom. I don't see a rational reason why their request should be denied given the information presented.

On the surface I would agree with those who view the rejection as counter to religious freedom. But let me remind the liberals how frequently they talk about the constitution being obsolete in the 21st century. In other words don't tread on the freedoms I like, just those that are inconvenient.

Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

This is still another instance that shows us those who hate and fear the 'others' because they believe they know all that is necessary about those 'others'. An extremely observant Muslim doesn't need a mosque in which to pray, nor does that person need an imam to follow Shariah law. As with Christianity there are many sects within Islam, ranging from the extremists of al Qaeda and ISIL to the far more moderate Nizari Ismaili sect led by the Aga Khan. It is the extremists and their atrocities who get all the publicity but the vast majority of Muslims are like the vast majority of Christians.

“And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

Originally Posted by fmw

On the surface I would agree with those who view the rejection as counter to religious freedom. But let me remind the liberals how frequently they talk about the constitution being obsolete in the 21st century. In other words don't tread on the freedoms I like, just those that are inconvenient.

For some reason a bit of Googling brings up a couple of conservative efforts to repeal Amendments they don't care for

Rethinking the 17th Amendment
A number of Republican politicians and conservative commentators are calling for repeal of the 17th Amendment. Ratified in 1913, it gave voters the power to elect U.S. senators directly.

“And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

Originally Posted by Paleocon

Yes it is.

I'm familiar with it. I'd point out it actually doesn't say anything like that a local government should treat all religions equally, but even if it did, the principles of sound government should prevail over it.

You might wish to do a bit of reading about "religious freedom" cases decided by the SCOTUS, perhaps the most relevant to your claim would be City of Boerne v. Flores, 521 U.S. 507 (1997)

Congress' power under § 5, however, extends only to "enforc[ing]" the provisions of the Fourteenth Amendment. The Court has described this power as "remedial." The design of the Amendment and the text of § 5 are inconsistent with the suggestion that Congress has the power to decree the substance of the Fourteenth Amendment's restrictions on the States. Legislation which alters the meaning of the Free Exercise Clause cannot be said to be enforcing the Clause. Congress does not enforce a constitutional right by changing what the right is. It has been given the power "to enforce," not the power to determine what constitutes a constitutional violation. Were it not so, what Congress would be enforcing would no longer be, in any meaningful sense, the "provisions of [the Fourteenth Amendment]."

“And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822