Saturday, November 24, 2007

Tagruato Website Hacked!

The Tagruato website has been hacked. The title was changed to "TAGRUATO IS DESTROYING OUR OCEANS", and the regular picture of Ganu Yoshida has been graffiti-ed - adding devil horns to Ganu, a tidal wave destroying a city, and various sea life.

Interestingly, the wave and sea animals all have roman numerals hidden on them, and the sea animals have hidden words indicating type of animal it is:

I'm not sure what any of this means, but could this be the work of Teddy and his "cause"?

This reminds me of "The Lost Experience", when Rachel Blake hacked the Hanso Foundation website.

BTW, If you want to look anything up on the old Tagruato website, I have created a mirror of the old Tagruato site here: Tagruato.CloverfieldClues.com* Thanks to everyone for emailing me about this, and thanks to Justin for poining out the fish names

Here's my crazy theory:The Roman numerals indicate stages of metamorphasis caused by the slusho ingredient. The stages may not be literal (i.e the Tanner Crab doenst change into the Dumbo octopus) the first stage may be crab-like and then the legs change into octopus-like tenticles. The giant wave apptoaching the city (Roman numeral 5) represents the last stage of metamophasis which is the giant cloverfield monster comming ashore.Number 5 occurs because humans drilled into the nectar deposit and released huge doses into the surrounding ocean. Meanwhile, human consumption of the ingredient causes human mutation right about the same time the big monster comes to town.

His right arm has been partially drawn over with some of the background, I don't think there's any meaning to it. His left shoulder looks bigger and hunched though, but it might be a black area in the new background.

Dennis: Just wanted to tell you how much I appreciate the work you're doing. It's sane, intelligent, analytical, and engaged. Without your site I would have stopped following this a long time ago. So, thanks!

Guys, it just occurred to me that basically none of this stuff will appear in the movie. If, as we have been led to believe, the movie is all handheld camera, then where is any of this information -- Tagurato's undersea drilling, Slusho's connection to Tagurato, their links to the monster, Slusho making people ill -- where is that going to go in the movie? At best, this stuff on the internet will explain stuff that the movie doesn't have time to. At worst it could all be completely irrelevant!

About 10 years ago I read a book called "Subliminal Seduction" in which the author claimed that advertisements are full of hidden subliminal messages placed there purposefully by advertisers to manipulate the public. His main proof was showing how the word "SEX" could be found in many print advertisements hidden in photographs. I tried this myself with various magazines and found dozens myself, which convinced me the author was right, until one day I looked at a print of a photo I had taken and printed myself in a photography class, and I was able to find several occurrences of the word "SEX" in the photo. This showed me that if you go looking for something, you will often find it, whether or not it is really there. Just sharing this story as a tale of caution for people searching for hidden messages in images.

Pinkhamster , there is a point with all this info, in the start of the trailor when rob is like "if ur watching this then u probably know more about this than i do" i think he's taking bout us who r playin this ARG. s this may not be in the movie but now we know more than the characters. well thats wut i think

It sounds obvious but do these connect directly to the sea monsters on the slusho site? fish jellyfish, crabs an whales though i dont see any ovenmitts in the hacked site lol I also am guessing the characters myspace pages havent been updated since 10/17 possible due to the writers strike. I saw them talking to each other then sending out a bulletin about Robs surprise party the week before the 1-18. Someone take those ideas an do somethin with them.

here's my guess:the numbers represent the order of the attack! why does it have to be 1 monster??? I think this means that they'll come in turns... Evangelion-like attacks of monstrous creatues! First a Crab, then a Jellyfish, then an Octopus, then a giant Fish, and then a giant tsuami to finish it all off!!!!and probably they wont all be up-front attacks... the Crab might attack first, go on land. The Jellyfish might sting people and make them BURST! or act in a "the blob" mannet... the Octopus could crawl under the city, and the fish waits in the shore to block any escape and/or incoming ships....till the wave finishes it all off

It was the real thing. Explained everything. Is there any question left?

Tagruato found the nectar which is the seed of the monster. They took it to New York, sold it and people drank it. The Monster followed his little "eggs" into the city and killed the people who killed/drank the seed. The Seed is something that makes people explode. The only thing we see in the film is a giant, crazy monster. And this is part of the background story.

Hey everyone, I took the photo of the hacked Tagruato site. I put it through the blending mode of 'screen' three times, which virtually lightens it. You can see that some things are overlayed (like the wave on his left shoulder, etc)

You'll notice some different writing on the emblem beneath the crab, which is also lacking two of its legs' shadows (I think it's intentional... might create a symbol?)

Also wondering about the dark/blotchy area beneath the octopus.

Not to mention the mysterious ghostly tentacles on the jellyfish as well as the globule behind it. Not sure if this is entirely relevant, but always worth looking deeper into.

The one thing I'm not getting is the comments about the monster having to do with Slusho infecting people in NY. It clearly said that Slusho had been around for years in Japan and had effects on the population, but no extreme side effects, so how would it affect New Yorkers so quickly? Also, why would the monster be following Slusho to NY when the same substance had been all over the Far East for years before? Besides, isn't that the whole point of Rob . . . that he's being hired to help Slusho get into America's marketplace (so it wouldn't be here at all yet).

I agree with you on the infection... but I think the monster actually surfacing is the reason for the infection; the monster was disturbed by the new drilling site just off the coast of New York (you can find it on the Tagruato mirror).

Or maybe the drilling company by NY might have been tainted by the creature living right by it. Anything is possible at this point.

If anyone remembers that episode of Futurama about Slurm... that was actually my initial thought when I first learned about this movie. Maybe Seabed's Nectar really is something far more ominous.

I have a theory about all of this. It ties in nicely with everything we know so far.

In order to make this theory viable, let's keep in mind a few things about the "secret ingredient" of Slusho.

1: It has to be kept frozen. They express this pretty succinctly.

2: It has energy boosting and curative properties.

Now, let's consider the following;

What is this Nectar is actually frozen, dormant eggs? Eggs belonging to whatever this creature is? They are taken from the sea floor dormant, kept dormant through freezing, and eventually consumed and killed in the digestive tract. Keeping point 1 in mind really helps you grasp that they really, REALLY, push keeping it frozen for a reason.

Before Tagruato was hacked, the "Note to investors regarding the RRC article" expressed that 'no seabed's nectar has been taken anywhere outside our containment facility'.

That is some volatile nectar, to require a containment facility.

So, obviously some of this gunk was stolen. but by who? who has the means? the 'cause' to do such a thing?

'the cause'? *snaps!* Of course! Teddy! That rapscallion! Upon hearing of his girlfriend's urinary tract infection, he and his group of ragtag activists stole a shipment of seabed's nectar, gave some to an RRC scientist for investigation, and he sent jamie a 'gift' that she remarked was light, and told her not to open it until the 9th.

Why? Dunno. Maybe it's to let the heat on the theft die down, maybe he plans on being home at that time.

My second point, the nectar's curative properties, set's foot now.

I am willing to bet that package contains seabed nectar. and that Teddy did NOT put it with dry ice. and that the hormonal signals coming off the now-living eggs of some insane creature are drawing it closer to the city..

lol j/k, but seriously, It was just something I came up with and it sounded pretty solid. The whole "game" aspect of the marketing for this movie seems to be leaning towards something being wrong with the secret ingredient.

it does sound like its going to have to do with slusho. But i figure its just going to be a slusho drilling oeration in the wrong spot that wakes the big bad beastie. which will ultimately be a message for the masses that irresponsible use of the worlds resources leads to a big ass beat down from a big ass baddie.

I was maybe thinking the location of the various sea-life would correlate to the locations of different Tagruato sea stations. However, the tanner crab is in the Bering Sea, and the closest station is in the Chukchi Sea. Dang, thought I had something, too.

This has probably been said a thousand times, but the sign that everyone has referred to as "The Textile..." reads "The Textile Capital of the World". Entering NYC, this is on a building you see very shortly after you exit the Lincoln Tunnel. Maybe this could help with location stuff.

Jei, it's actually this sign I think:http://i8.tinypic.com/6x9o0ll.jpgIt's at the base of the Broadway 401 building, you see it breifly in the Liberty head scene also.Thanks to Dennis for finding this view of it.

In response to Tommy : almost every wiki page is modified within the last week whenever the day you check. I've been looking for (as I'm french) Jacques Chirac's page then later Francois Mitterand's page (who died in 1996). These 2 pages have been recently modified (more unpredictable for Mitterand. After that I checked the Rabbit's page (yes the animal) ....... this one has also been modified this week !!! ;-)

Kind of whacked, left field idea, but one that I don't think has been addressed (maybe), is the concept that maybe the Monster attacking New York is being deliberately planned by "whomever". The reason that came to mind was the Roman Numerals seem to possible indicate a series of steps that leads to the obvious destruction of a "city" by "the ocean". Seems that someone is indicating that they know of something very specific going on, by a certain someone (i.e. Devin horns) and it's obvious result. The other thing is the very specific imagery of Liberty's Head being VERY removed and VERY thrown around. Metaphorically could have some big ramifications (i.e. gonna destroy the USA with my big bad Monster). The whole "going after the babies" thing seems to have been done with the American Godzilla movie. Seems too been there/done that to me.

to pinkhamster: this stuff could be in the movie. just because it's all handheld doesn't mean the people in the movie won't bother to do any investigating.

hp lovecraft stories were almost always written as documents, writings left by someone who wanted people to -know- what happened, even though they were clearly going to pass away. i think this would be the way to do this cinematically, because having a voice over or something wouldn't be 'realistic'. that is to say, the way those stories are written, if you dressed them up the right way, they'd seem like historical documents. the way this movie is made, with the right dressing, it could pass for historical documents (like blair witch, except blair witch failed miserably at it).

i discussed this topic, or tried to, on the IMDB forums and got no response at all. i think that monster will obviously be the "villain" in this film, but that the story could start to follow the tagruato ceo and something he's "done." i dunno. that's just my thought. if the whole thing weren't filmed in handheld, i would foresee a confrontation scene with dialouge like, "Do you know wht you've done?!" And a calm tagruato (his name still slips my mind) explaining the whole seabed nectar thing and saying he didn't mean for this to happen etc. i don't think we're gonna' get that, but it'd be cool though.

First time post, sure it's all been said but here goes.1. Slusho website says they put raw egg in Slusho to give it more energy. So the idea that the deep sea ingredient is eggs makes sense2. In Slusho history Noriko Yashida created drinks and disappeard at sea looking for a new ingredient. Her son Ganu Yashida took over, discovered the deep sea ingredient and used it to invent Slusho. The man in the Tagruato picture is Ganu Yashida so maybe the monster is his missing relative. Additionally, Ganu was the first to try the deep sea ingredient so maybe he's partly morphed/changed...depends on how much he drank. In any case his entire corporation may have motivation to change everyone else if they've already been affected.3. Has anyone tried to superimpose the doctored Tagruato picture over the movie poster? It seems like he's standing like the statue of liberty and the path of destruction lines up with the Tagruato picture...wondering if anything is there?

HelloGo and have a look on wikipedia, type "cryptobiosis". There are two very interesting animals, that can resist almost anything (dessication, high temperatures, extreme heat), and come back to life in some conditions. The most common species are the tardigrade, or "water-bear", and a small shrimp nicknamed the sea-monkey. You'll find interesting pictures on wikipedia.I forgot, another detail, they are found in sea bed sediments, and a bear and a monkey appear on the slusho site.

Another animal, found on the same wikipedia article: the nématode (a worm). there's an excerpt:"Further, there are a great many parasitic forms, including pathogens in most plants, animals, and also in humans."

hey guys im new to the whole cloverfield thing. ive been reading about it all summer and fall and started doing some research. i found a word hidden in the jellyfish on the hacked photo not sure if it is news but im trying to decipher the word cause of the clarity its difficult to see. if its old let me know but if its new cool f'n beans for me..lol

In the Graffiti picture, it looks like his body has been double pasted, with the left portion of the bottom pic visible, especially the part between the head and shoulder where you see the neck contrasted with the top picture.