day 15 shoulder weight 190
upright rows
40 x 20 into behind the back press by 15
40 x 20 into behind the back press by 10
40 x 20 into behind the back press by 10
40 x 20 into behind the back press by 15
40 x 12 into behind the back press by 13

rear delt raises
20 x 10
20 x 12
20 x 12
20 x 10
20 x 10

Dumbbell press
45 x 12
45 x 12
45 x 15
45 x 11
45 x 9

shrugs
65 x 12
65 x 12
65 x 12
65 x 10
65 x 10

45 plate shrug
x 10
x 10

same sides so far. starting to notice some visual differences which is rare for me to say. im happy so far. i feel full and look bigger with really no extra body fat

Sorry guys havent had time to
Update. Been super busy. Yesterday slammed legs but really hurt my knee squatting. Thats the end of that. Today did back and deadlidt 235 about 6 times. Feel super strong. A really big side is sluggishness and joints. And i NEVER have joint problems. Awesome stuff tho. Ill be bridging hcgenerate for my last week into my clomid pct. cant wait to get some libido back man. Its freaking GONE. I mean none lol you get shut down from
These orals. Weight is 189.5. Put on a couple if quality pounds which is what i wanted. Still got half the cycle left so pretty happy.

Dude when i tell you that when its up its not even up i mean that. Ive never been shut down like that and ive taken ph's before. I purposely did this now because i have no need for a libido lol i heard hcg is awesome and will help like crazy. Just a quick question. To prevent my estro rebound while on clomid should i continue my ai? (forma stanzol)

Dude when i tell you that when its up its not even up i mean that. Ive never been shut down like that and ive taken ph's before. I purposely did this now because i have no need for a libido lol i heard hcg is awesome and will help like crazy. Just a quick question. To prevent my estro rebound while on clomid should i continue my ai? (forma stanzol)

Oh damn lol. Lucky u or else u would've committed suicide because there's no reason to live if u can't pick it up and use it lmfao.

Yes continue your Ai. I myself like to go an extra two weeks on a Ai just for preventive measures. Usually I run it for 6-8weeks after cycle.

Black Lion Representative I'ma Brooklynboy I may take some gettin' use to

Well in regards to ph im gonna take a good two month break and then do some research. Ive heard need2 has some nice phs. My pct is hcg starting day 23 of my cycle ill be bridging the hcg in.
Then ill be running clomid 50/50/25/25
A natty test booster called ape.
And forma stanzol. So ill be on hcg for the first 3 weeks of pct.

Well in regards to ph im gonna take a good two month break and then do some research. Ive heard need2 has some nice phs. My pct is hcg starting day 23 of my cycle ill be bridging the hcg in.
Then ill be running clomid 50/50/25/25
A natty test booster called ape.
And forma stanzol. So ill be on hcg for the first 3 weeks of pct.

Gotcha. Need2 only has two ph left because of the ban. So not much to look for there. dieselbolan v2 is a pretty good bulker with min sides. your pct looks good.

Black Lion Representative I'ma Brooklynboy I may take some gettin' use to

day 19 chest
sorry i been slacking cause i been super busy but ill be back to logging steadily this week.

bench press
135 x 10
135 x 10
225 x 7
245 x 5
225 x 5

Low cable crossover (decline)
50 x 9
50 x 9
50 x 9
50 x 9
50 x 9

pec deck
100 x 10
100 x 10
100 x 10
100 x 8

hammer incline
90 x 15
90 x 10
and my chest gave out lol

feel super strong in the gym. One thing ill tell everyone about this supp i dont like is you dont feel like yourself. Having no libido is horrid. It takes you out of the mood to do anything. just so blah its awful. I start my hcg on wed so i am really looking forward to that. Gains are nice. I feel good and full.

Noshirt- great log so far dude. I have a bottle of Methadrol Extreme & im going to run it after this cycle Im about to start.
Are you taking any DHEA or AD4 to help with Lethargy or help Libido?
I know methadrol Extreme has ALOT of PH in it already (SD, DMZ, LMG) but I was wondering if that would help with libido on a cycle of this stuff.
I have ran APE by AE before solo, it is a good Natty Booster but really dried my joints, almost as bad as a cycle of Mechabol.
I think DAA would also help on your PCT.

thanks alot man. and ill just be bridging my hcg into my pct and ape along with it plus the clomid should really help restore my hpta. Dude my libido is gone lol i cant believe it. ive taken phs in the back. If i could change one thing. i would have taken the hcg throughout the whole thing. no im not taking any dhea or ad4. The stuff is great bro. just prepare for certain sides. i dont feel like myself on this **** in a way. Im excited for it to end cause i want to feel normal again but i love the strength feeling and fullness. Clomid is gonna be a bitch to haha

Yea the forma is really a grade A product. Dude not even a slight symptom and made the slight gyno i had previously softer then a marshmellow. Idk if its gone or not. Im running it thru pct to prevent estro rebound

Def look bigger and for a 7.5 pound increase on the scale id say there is minimal fat gain. I have been dieting super clean for the most part. Today i did arms. idk if people kept saying i look HUGE cause my pump or not but jesus like 9800 people walked up to me like "what are you taking? what do you do for arms? you look good keep it up" lol sheesh. I mean this **** motivates me so much i cant even explain it. So many people ask me how big do i wanna get? honestly there is no limit. I love to work out and i will lift till the day i die! anyways this supp is just awesome. Same sides as usual. My joints are beyond killing me in my elbow and knees (both have been injured previously tho). Backne is clearing up. Anyone who takes this make sure you take something for lethargic purposes. Hands down biggest mistake i made on this cycle. If your gyno prone (which i am heavily) 4 pumps of forma daily will def be more then sufficient. allright well here was my workout:

May not seem like much but i did every rep slow and perfect. Trust me i was done after my first exercise lol the workout was a killer. Ill be starting my hcg actually prob tmrw. Im excited cause i know thats gonna only help gain some muscle and be a good bridge into my pct PLUS MY LIBIDO!!!ugh do i miss it. sigh the pros and cons of ph

and then i realized i couldnt force anymore blood into my shoulders lol I mean they were pumped to the max like it hurt to move them. Keep in mind i did all that in like 25 minutes. Amazing workout. Im kind of getting antsy to start my hcg so im going to start it tmrw on the day 21. Id say im satisfied with my results but i always want to be bigger so im not satisfied lol

All till failure. The burn was super intense. I started my hcg yesterday. Today will be day 2. Im excited to feel some libido back. Seriously cant wait. Alot of my sides are starting to subside . Backne has gone way down. Lethargy isnt as bad. Idk how but ill take it. As for mass i hate to say i didnt get much. And i eat properly and lift hard trust me. I def got some nice fullness and couple changes ive noticed. Im def bigger then the start so i cant complain. Im sure within the next 7 days ill see a little more then with my pct which :
APE
Hcgenerate
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Forma stanzol as an ai
And im gonna continue running cycle support as well. (stuff was amazing) really kept sides minimal. Umm idk how people arr talking about 20-25 pound gains from this. Thats bull****. Ive allways been a hard gainer. 2 pounds is super hard work so im happy with how i came out. As for the pct i know ill only get bigger on that. So im excited

All till failure. The burn was super intense. I started my hcg yesterday. Today will be day 2. Im excited to feel some libido back. Seriously cant wait. Alot of my sides are starting to subside . Backne has gone way down. Lethargy isnt as bad. Idk how but ill take it. As for mass i hate to say i didnt get much. And i eat properly and lift hard trust me. I def got some nice fullness and couple changes ive noticed. Im def bigger then the start so i cant complain. Im sure within the next 7 days ill see a little more then with my pct which :
APE
Hcgenerate
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Forma stanzol as an ai
And im gonna continue running cycle support as well. (stuff was amazing) really kept sides minimal. Umm idk how people arr talking about 20-25 pound gains from this. Thats bull****. Ive allways been a hard gainer. 2 pounds is super hard work so im happy with how i came out. As for the pct i know ill only get bigger on that. So im excited

My caloric intake and macros ill post tmrw. I ran today for like 4 hours in basketball so thats going to kill my weigh in tmrw morning. As for the clomid at 75 idk if ican handle that lol the sides are harsh. Idk if uve ever taken the clomid. Ill see how im feeling on the 50 in the start.

My back workout today was:
Lat pulldowns
5 sets of 210 5 reps

Cable rows
230 5 sets of 5 reps

Cable crossover
4 sets
45 x 10

Supersetted with cable crossovers was pullups wide grip and close grip till failure

Deadlifts (went light)
135 x 10
185 x 8
205 x 6
205 x 6

That was all. So many people are saying i got bigger. Feels awesome but i hate having the tiny pouch from eatig so many carbs. Im so used to just being super super lean but for the time being and pct i gotta live with it. My diet has been super clean everyday but for a majority i eat all clean healthy foods. Ill post my weight tmrw ad calorie intake for you

The hcg is optional on cycle to prevent shutdown. I didnt need a libido for personal reasons at this time which is why i ran this now. I just started bridging the hcg in yesterday into my pct. you can already feel the difference if any of you ever want to try it. Look at the label. The profile is all great stuff if you look them up individually. Kind of pricy tho

WEIGHT IS 197
its weird cause im definitely bigger then the start if you look back but i am so not lean lol its mentally hard for me to accept it. The pics dont really do it justice but i got alot bigger now that i look back and not much fat gain for such an increase.\