Listen you snot-nosed little douche--if you're going to make a-hole declarations like that, go do it over on the Pfail Strip. You'll fit right in with those knee-jerk reactionary idiots.

Seriously.

This forum is reserved for adults with differences of opinions who want to share ideas and discuss those differences rationally.

I PLAYED football back in the late 70's.

I've WATCHED football since 1969.

I've been a season ticketholder since 2001. Been to every Jet home game since then, and I go to at least one away game every year.

Seriously, GFY if you can't discuss things like an adult.

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First off, pretty sure I'm a legal adult? Second off, I don't think I was the one to just blatantly personally abuse the poster. Third, I had concrete evidence.

No one's is doubting your Jet-fandom, however, I am doubting your draft knowledge. I've been on TGG, FootballsFuture, and JI since 2007/8. Pretty consistent poster on all sites, and always abrupt when the draft comes.

Guards don't get drafted in the top 10. The Left Tackle, Center, and even Right Tackle are the 3 most important positions on the Offensive Line. The LT is the blind side, the Center makes the calls, and RT usually has to face their most fierce PR. (JPP)

This draft is also filled with talent at the G position. A guy I really like is Justin Pugh out of Syracuse. The difference in a Pugh that can be had in the 2nd round compared to a guy like Alex Okafor that is a PR that can be found in the 2nd round is HUGE.

Jordan-Pugh >Warmack-Montgomery
Jones-Warford > Cooper-Okafor

It's called finding value in the draft. This draft is top heavy in pass rushers. A pass rusher is the most important position on a defense. Build your team with 3 players. Who do you pick? A QB, PR, LT, right?

I've been on the site since 08, amongst other various forums, as a legit draftnik. Tell me when your banging out 4 round mock drafts that take a few dozen hours to complete.

Anyone can say gimme the top Guard available. Everyone says he's a safe pick. Study film. Watch Jordan's first step and hip fluidity. His ability to cover the slot, TE's, and also rush the pass rusher. A spin move comparable to Dwight Freeney.

Oh yeah, I did some research and found a few mocks of yours, good job.

1st round: DE Christian Ballard - Iowa

3rd round: NT Jerrell Powe - Ole Miss

4th round: FS Eric Hagg - Nebraska

5th round: WR Jeff Maehl - Oregon

6th round: TE Lee Smith - Marshall

7th round: RB Darren Evans - Virginia Tech

1st round: OLB Melvin Ingram - South Carolina

2nd round: ILB Nigel Bradham - Florida State

3rd round: RB Isaiah Pead - Cincinnati

4th round: WR Jarrett Boykin - Virginia Tech

5th round: TE George Bryan - N.C. State

6th round: OG Charles Burton - Montana

7th round: P Bryan Anger - California

1st round: OLB Courtney Upshaw - Alabama

2nd round: OT Zebrie Sanders - Florida State

3rd round: SS Antonio Allen - South Carolina

4th round: ILB Emmanuel Acho - Texas

5th round: OG Johnnie Troutman - Penn State

6th round: CB Gary Gray - Notre Dame

7th round: P Drew Butler - Georgia

I've been on this forum since '08, and have never agreed with you on a single pick.

I've been on the site since 08, amongst other various forums, as a legit draftnik. Tell me when your banging out 4 round mock drafts that take a few dozen hours to complete.

Anyone can say gimme the top Guard available. Everyone says he's a safe pick. Study film. Watch Jordan's first step and hip fluidity. His ability to cover the slot, TE's, and also rush the pass rusher. A spin move comparable to Dwight Freeney.

Oh yeah, I did some research and found a few mocks of yours, good job.

I've been on this forum since '08, and have never agreed with you on a single pick.

LOL

Who the f*ck cares?

What, you fancy yourself a young Mike Mayock or something?

Most of us do this sh*t for fun. No one claims to be a professional here except for you, a douchebag college kid who seems to think only your opinion matters.

When I was in college, I spent my free time hanging out with friends and chasing pu$$y. You know, what normal kids do. Not sitting alone in my dorm room "breaking down film".

Most of us do this sh*t for fun. No one claims to be a professional here except for you, a douchebag college kid who seems to think only your opinion matters.

When I was in college, I spent my free time hanging out with friends and chasing pu$$y. You know, what normal kids do. Not sitting alone in my dorm room "breaking down film".

Seriously, GFY.

It's called a hobby. Some people play video games, others watch TV in their free time, I watch film and scout prospects. Call it like you wish. Also, I'm graduating soon, and I'm not spending my time partying like if I was a freshman. Not sure where you're trying to go here?

I never claimed to be a so called expert. However, I do have pride in my draft knowledge. I always praise people who know what their talking about, and I do understand there are people out their that know more than me. (FlamingMo, Tony, Paradis, SenorGato, as well as a bunch of others who's names I can't remember.)

I'm not gonna say anyone's right or wrong about their beliefs in what's too early or not, but you've got Nassib and Barkley going before a whole host of guys who are ten times as talented IMO.

If you believe Eifert for example can be the next Jimmy Graham, then obviously it's not too early to take him in the middle of the first.

I'm not an Eifert fan, probably never will be. He's not a good blocker at all, and he isn't explosive enough to be a pure threat at TE to be pass catcher only. Kelce and Reed are the best value buys at TE. Can be had in 3rd to 4th round.

I never claimed to be a so called expert. However, I do have pride in my draft knowledge. I always praise people who know what their talking about, and I do understand there are people out their that know more than me. (FlamingMo, Tony, Paradis, SenorGato, as well as a bunch of others who's names I can't remember.)
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I'm flattered, but you know more than I do. There's particular positions i might follow more closely, but as a whole I dunno

I'm not an Eifert fan, probably never will be. He's not a good blocker at all, and he isn't explosive enough to be a pure threat at TE to be pass catcher only. Kelce and Reed are the best value buys at TE. Can be had in 3rd to 4th round.

As far as raw talent, I'm sold on Eifert. I've done as much research as I can on him and he's legit. He does however, come at a cost (mid-late 1st) that might be too pricey. He should be a top of the 2nd kind of guy, but we're lacking a ton of blue-chip talent this year in the draft

First off, pretty sure I'm a legal adult? Second off, I don't think I was the one to just blatantly personally abuse the poster. Third, I had concrete evidence.

No one's is doubting your Jet-fandom, however, I am doubting your draft knowledge. I've been on TGG, FootballsFuture, and JI since 2007/8. Pretty consistent poster on all sites, and always abrupt when the draft comes.

Guards don't get drafted in the top 10. The Left Tackle, Center, and even Right Tackle are the 3 most important positions on the Offensive Line. The LT is the blind side, the Center makes the calls, and RT usually has to face their most fierce PR. (JPP)

This draft is also filled with talent at the G position. A guy I really like is Justin Pugh out of Syracuse. The difference in a Pugh that can be had in the 2nd round compared to a guy like Alex Okafor that is a PR that can be found in the 2nd round is HUGE.

Jordan-Pugh >Warmack-Montgomery
Jones-Warford > Cooper-Okafor

It's called finding value in the draft. This draft is top heavy in pass rushers. A pass rusher is the most important position on a defense. Build your team with 3 players. Who do you pick? A QB, PR, LT, right?

Ok.

I like you, so i will give you a piece of advice. Do with it what u will.

State your opinion, stick to your opinion and leave the other stuff alone. If it gets too personal, make a response if you must, then before u post it, ask yourself a question. Will this incite further conflict ? If the answer is yes, then hit delete and move on.

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Originally Posted by Tinstar

I like you, so i will give you a piece of advice. Do with it what u will.

State your opinion, stick to your opinion and leave the other stuff alone. If it gets too personal, make a response if you must, then before u post it, ask yourself a question. Will this incite further conflict ? If the answer is yes, then hit delete and move on.

Guards dop get drafted in the top ten, remember Mike haight, or was that dave cadigan?????LOL.Were all here because we love football, hopefully the Jets. We all have opinions based on decent or good knowledge. Respect everybody elses views, and don't devalue them. I agree about Jordon, if youv'e read my previous posts.A year in the weight room, and under Rex Ryan, he's a terror

I like you, so i will give you a piece of advice. Do with it what u will.

State your opinion, stick to your opinion and leave the other stuff alone. If it gets too personal, make a response if you must, then before u post it, ask yourself a question. Will this incite further conflict ? If the answer is yes, then hit delete and move on.

Alright man, just get easily aggravated by blatant discrimination. Will have to work on controlling myself I guess.

Whoops

Originally Posted by GenoT

Guards dop get drafted in the top ten, remember Mike haight, or was that dave cadigan?????LOL.Were all here because we love football, hopefully the Jets. We all have opinions based on decent or good knowledge. Respect everybody elses views, and don't devalue them. I agree about Jordon, if youv'e read my previous posts.A year in the weight room, and under Rex Ryan, he's a terror

I responded to the wrong post, sorry Tinstar. The guard comment was humour, trying to lighten things up, man, its only football, lol.

Also, if Warmack is out there annihilating everyone in front of him, opening up gaping holes in the running game and turns out to be an all-pro for the better part of a decade...will anyone really care where we drafted him at?

The way I see it, there really are no passrushers in this class without a host of red flags.

Ansah - Has only been playing ball for two years. Is he strictly a 4-3 end or can he make the transition to OLB in a 3-4 defense?

Jordan - Well rounded, but the production isn't there and I question his ability to be a bigtime passrusher in the NFL.

Mingo - Built like a stick and the production isn't there. I think it was Tinstar who said he's better suited for the weakside in a 4-3 and I tend to agree.

Jones - Super productive in the best conference in college football, but then there's the spinal stenosis and questions about his longevity.

Moore - Totally stunk it up at the combine and may be luck to be a Top 20 selection at this point.

by and large (is that spelled right?) I agree with this sentiment. I'm not overly crazy about any of these OLBs as they're wearing asterisks next to their name. If we were to take Jones or Moore, I would trust our FO's decision. There's guys like Lemonier in the 2nd that are more level with the talent/pick value.

The thing that sucks about this, and the poverty of quality QBs, WRs, RBs, etc, is that it's pushing guys THAT SHOULD be available to us in the 2nd, and 3rd, up a whole round.

I actually like Moore, but his athletism and natural strength at the combine at his size left alot to be desired. When the workout matches the tape, you invest in the prospect. When the workout doesn't match the tape, you devalue the player.

In the case of Gholston, the workout was off the chart but the tape was inconsistant telling us that the player wasn't serious about football . In the case of Moore, the tape doesn't match the workout telling us that while the player is serious about football, he's not willing to go that extra mile.

When you look at Ansah, the tape and the workout are a match. The kid doesn't know what he's doing, but he's doing it well. Folks made an issue of this kid spending his time studying instead of training for the combines, and he still blew it up. In certain cultures, education is more important than just about anything short of Religion.

I have no idea what this kid has to do to prove what he is, but in my mind, he's done it. If he's there, the Jets will make a huge mistake passing on him. The NYJets doesn't run the same type of 34 the Steelers or the Pats do. They run the same defense the Ravens do. Ezekiel Ansah would be our version of T sizzle.