I'm not a,fan of Musa but he was not Leicester u23 level, something shady was going on behind the scenes.

Bull crap...............Have u watched Musa played with Leicester city compared to Nacho and Ndidi?

Some players are just not built for Big Leagues period.

Stop peddling lies, he played decently and hustled. He showed flashes of what he was capable of esp against Barcelona in preseason. You know you will at the least get energy and hustle out of Musa and in fact Nacho has had worse games than the ones Musa was having, games where he was low energy/workrate and didn't seem to really try. It was inexplicable that Musa couldn't even get minutes in cup games, and was clear it was not football-related which is probably why Rohr stuck by him.

Well they didn't give him much of a chance during the real season, he can only perform when he's played.

I'm not a,fan of Musa but he was not Leicester u23 level, something shady was going on behind the scenes.

Bull crap...............Have u watched Musa played with Leicester city compared to Nacho and Ndidi?

Some players are just not built for Big Leagues period.

Stop peddling lies, he played decently and hustled. He showed flashes of what he was capable of esp against Barcelona in preseason. You know you will at the least get energy and hustle out of Musa and in fact Nacho has had worse games than the ones Musa was having, games where he was low energy/workrate and didn't seem to really try. It was inexplicable that Musa couldn't even get minutes in cup games, and was clear it was not football-related which is probably why Rohr stuck by him.

Well they didn't give him much of a chance during the real season, he can only perform when he's played.

Musa is all about pace and shots. Give him a set of simple instructions and a license to shoot. Asking him to do more is akin to striking water from a rock.

The Russians know how to use him just like they knew how to use Odemwinge.I always cringed whenever 9ja tried to use Odemwinge in different roles than he did for his club in Russia. It never worked.

LCFC has players with similar if not better (Gray is faster) and with more attributes.

Ehhmmm Osaze was actually quite successful in Nigeria IMO. One of the best wingers that we had in that time.

Better than Nsofor, more reliable than the injured Obasi. Even preferred him to Musa and others. Yes we used him in a number of positions, but it was never a disaster. So I wouldn't draw parallels between the two. Musa being played in the wrong position or way is like stepping down from Vancouva to Kampala.

While playing Osaze in the wrong position is like stepping down from Enugu to Kampala. Yes noticeable, but not too much of a drop.

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I'm not a,fan of Musa but he was not Leicester u23 level, something shady was going on behind the scenes.

Bull crap...............Have u watched Musa played with Leicester city compared to Nacho and Ndidi?

Some players are just not built for Big Leagues period.

Stop peddling lies, he played decently and hustled. He showed flashes of what he was capable of esp against Barcelona in preseason. You know you will at the least get energy and hustle out of Musa and in fact Nacho has had worse games than the ones Musa was having, games where he was low energy/workrate and didn't seem to really try. It was inexplicable that Musa couldn't even get minutes in cup games, and was clear it was not football-related which is probably why Rohr stuck by him.

Well they didn't give him much of a chance during the real season, he can only perform when he's played.

Vancity statistics says otherwise. Musa has more goals and assists than osaze for club and country and he isn’t retired. Yet, musa can’t clean Osaze boots.

john12,

The above statement is quite wrong. Both Musa and Osaze have 11 goals each for Nigeria at the moment. Osaze's 11 came in 65 games and Musa's 11 in 68 games. I just want to set the record straight on this matter.

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Musa has 13 goals and not 11 goals. Osaze was equally a good player but to say musa cannot lace his boot is quite wrong because musa statistics is better than osaze own for club and country and he isn’t retired. To me, they’re on the same level is the broader spectrum of Nigerian football

Osaze succeded at England but didn’t at Russia. Musa conquered Russia 3 times. Anyway, the argument isn’t that osaze was a bad player the argument was that musa cannot be compared to osaze and I totally disagreed. Musa and osaze are both super eagles legend in their right and let’s end the conversation that way.

I don’t see the future and can’t say if musa days in super eagles are numbered but these are facts1, Musa is 25 years old and is presently our top scorer2, he is still has few more years in him at super eagles until his form totally detoriate. 3) Musa is 95% in Russia World Cup except injuries happen to him. You agents cannot bribe your players this time. They must struggle like everyone else in WCQ to attend the World Cup

Vancity that’s even more reasons for you to respect musa. Do you think it’s easy to have 65 caps for super eagles at 25?? Well, it’s not easy. Also, most of those games were on the wings and not as a top striker. So many Nigerian players hasn’t even played up to 50 games for super eagles in their entire career let alone 65 caps at 25 (respect him) The simple fact is that presently musa is one of super eagles most experienced player and has earned his right at that team. If musa has to be demoted then it must be for an upgrade and not downgrade that’s the problem I have with you on this issue. It seems to me like you’re just screaming new players new players for no reason. You cannot expect us to drop one of our experienced players at World Cup for some inexperienced backwater leagues guys. Like I have said numerous times, After World Cup you agents can invite your players for ANC and Wcq qualifying.

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I'm not a,fan of Musa but he was not Leicester u23 level, something shady was going on behind the scenes.

Bull crap...............Have u watched Musa played with Leicester city compared to Nacho and Ndidi?

Some players are just not built for Big Leagues period.

Stop peddling lies, he played decently and hustled. He showed flashes of what he was capable of esp against Barcelona in preseason. You know you will at the least get energy and hustle out of Musa and in fact Nacho has had worse games than the ones Musa was having, games where he was low energy/workrate and didn't seem to really try. It was inexplicable that Musa couldn't even get minutes in cup games, and was clear it was not football-related which is probably why Rohr stuck by him.

Well they didn't give him much of a chance during the real season, he can only perform when he's played.

I guess because he was Black or Muslim

Who knows, he's also not english unlike Gray and Albrighton

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Vancity that’s even more reasons for you to respect musa. Do you think it’s easy to have 65 caps for super eagles at 25?? Well, it’s not easy. Also, most of those games were on the wings and not as a top striker. So many Nigerian players hasn’t even played up to 50 games for super eagles in their entire career let alone 65 caps at 25 (respect him) The simple fact is that presently musa is one of super eagles most experienced player and has earned his right at that team. If musa has to be demoted then it must be for an upgrade and not downgrade that’s the problem I have with you on this issue. It seems to me like you’re just screaming new players new players for no reason. You cannot expect us to drop one of our experienced players at World Cup for some inexperienced backwater leagues guys. Like I have said numerous times, After World Cup you agents can invite your players for ANC and Wcq qualifying.

I heartily believe that SE won ANC because of the minimal role Musa played in the tournament. Then Keshi was featuring our best players before malfeasanceand depravity got hold of him. I have always known the Musa is devoid of the skill to succeed in any elite clubs. He has been brainless from inception. The only reason he is mentioned as a member of SE is ultra conservatism of Rohr. Surely I take Success., Bazee, and Onyekuru over him anytime any day. The goals he scored in 2014 world cup were all earned serendipitously .