I love the coffee in Belgium, the way they brewed it right over the cup; and those yummy little cinnamon cookies...

Let's not bring up Belgium ... that never ends well. The conversation eventually always turns the the genitals of plants!

Actually, the other day, we had a bit of a storm[1] and the next morning, the driveway was covered in Birch genitals. This did not seem to bother anyone. Now imagine the uproar if it had been animal genitals. We're such regnumists!

.....I have been healed twice from cancer and know there is a Jehovah God.

Why on earth would you WANT to be heald from cancer? Surely cancer was Yahweh's message to you that he wants you to die quick and come to him. Why spit in his face with doctors and treatments to try to stay alive on this world for so long, against his will?

Alternatively, if you didn't receive any treatment, have you considered that Yahweh doesn't actually like you that much? Condeming you to longer on this plane, and keeping you from heaven....not one, but twice? Can you hear Yahweh saying "I know there's nothing longer than eternity, but eternity with THIS guy will feel even longer. Better cure their cancer again to keep 'em away from me for a few more years."

Some Christians just can't seem to see things from the other side. Ever.

Miracle survivors among all of the dead in a disaster.Select people miraculously healed while most are left to die.Large swaths of "Christian" children dying of starvation - in a specific geographic location.Intelligent design that leaves most humans with poor eyesight over time.And so on...

Some Christians just can't seem to see things from the other side. Ever.

Miracle survivors among all of the dead in a disaster.Select people miraculously healed while most are left to die.Large swaths of "Christian" children dying of starvation - in a specific geographic location.Intelligent design that leaves most humans with poor eyesight over time.And so on...

all the non dead kids in school shootings...

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If xian hell really exists, the stench of the burning billions of us should be a constant, putrid reminder to the handful of heavenward xians how loving your god is. - neopagan

I don't know you either but, "Blood on my hands"??? Really? I know there's a lot of blood spilled over this or that god, I've never seen blood spilled over "Lets be reasonable and look at the evidence"

So you're wrong; And extremely insulting; And Vicious; And Morally inferior.

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An Omnipowerful God needed to sacrifice himself to himself (but only for a long weekend) in order to avert his own wrath against his own creations who he made in a manner knowing that they weren't going to live up to his standards.

Whenever I see that quote, I remember a USO show I saw when I was on a deployment. It was a group called the "Power Team" or something like that. That verse featured prominently on their banner. They would go up on the stage, say a prayer, and then perform some feat of strength like breaking a 2x4, lifting a big weight, or ripping a phone book in half, all in the name of Jesus natch. It would have been pretty impressive, except for the fact that they were all huge. I would have been a lot more impressed if they had been a bunch skinny 90-pound dudes who could do the same thing. Basically, they were able to accomplish with prayer and steroids what several guys at my local gym could do with just the steroids.

I don't know you but, a lot of people's blood shall be on your hands preaching "there is no God" and I have been healed twice from cancer and know there is a Jehovah God. You on the other hand is going to die to this side of life (never dying as a spirit) and finding out on the other side of life that God is real, never having the chance to correct this huge lie you have started for you and others, thereby, chosing HELL for eternity.

Shame on you. Confess to God before it is too late that you are sorry and apologize to all the people you have lied to "there is no God". I pray for you!

I can do all things through Christ who strenghtens me!

I hate to break it to you. God didn't heal you. If it wasn't for years of medical science you would very likely be dead. There are many non-Christian cancer survivors (some here too), but before we knew what we know about cancer now the morality rate was much higher and it didn't matter if you were a Christian or not. Your 'healing' was the result of a process many Christians dismiss and regard as being non-Christian. One of the reasons many of us don't believe in the Christian God is because it is not supported by science nor can it be tested and science frequently contradicts the claims of the bible. Hence many Christians consider science to be deceptive or evil.

You say I am living a lie, but my reality is based on science, science that proves itself time and time again to be right and to work. Many of us have tried using religion and finding it never works, nothing out of the ordinary happens when people are faithful, only people believe that extraordinary happens. The fact you think you've been "healed" of your cancer is testament to that and many Christians will attribute their own 'healings' to God and not the science and doctors that saved them. The scientific process has contribute an awful lot to the world we're living in. Humanity has managed to produce some amazing feats and science has manage to contribute massively to those feats and yet we get a religion that claims a God answers prayers and miracles happen and yet only the mediocre happens and only mediocre prayers are answered, it's as though no divine intention was needed and when you get things like faith healers, their healings are never scientifically documented and are like bad magic shows, yet with one difference, the viewers believe the act is real.

But of course, relying on the scientific process and basing beliefs on something testable is the lie here.

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“It is difficult to understand the universe if you only study one planet” - Miyamoto MusashiWarning: I occassionally forget to proofread my posts to spot typos or to spot poor editing.