isn't history a mad thing? it's like look at this crazy shit these people did and they'd do it again and they're doing it now. then its like, 99% chance none of it matters when you die so why would bother? its like, have humans changed at ALL? i mean really have they? I don't think so, it's only our environment that changes, technology and urbanization are the present state but if we were broken up into small, SPACED cities without modern transport and communication or we'd be blowing eachother up to smithereens, prove me wrong

If the present social system is non-Christian and Christianity is true then the status quo is not conducive to good scientific pursuit. I know that the United States recently made lawful homosexuality and I know that Jesus Christ exists by Kurt Gödel's and Anselm of Canterbury's valid and true ontological arguments. Therefore, the present system is not great for abundance, entertainment, or pastime of the sciences.

My credibility is that I wrote the syllogistic proof showing that The Hodge Conjecture is true. However, I haven't written a function for it. Also, I graduated high-school at age 16.

I do think that as the most superior Dinaric-Aryan-Mayan (or "German Guatemalan") of IQ 22,222 I do think that I could run the present world and its structures as dictator. Certainly the friendly dictator of The Nazi Party of Guatemala.

Before I start arguing with you can you shed some light on the Guatemala Nazi party?

Is that the party uniform?
Are you currently the prime example of the master race?
Are the fly paper strips part of the mystique of the party, or are they there just to catch flies?
Are you allowed to own a cupboard or shelf in the Guatemala Nazi party?

You seem like a slack ass if you can write a proof for the Hodge Conjecture but you haven't written a function for it yet...please explain.

>>14707Yeah at several points, China had gigantic fleets of enormous ships that utterly dwarfed anything the europeans had. Even as recently as the 1400s, they were on the prowl, and lucky for europe, when the chinese rounded the cape under Africa, they didn't keep going north forever, or they'd have certainly stumbled upon the french & brits taking pot shots at each other and destroyed them completely. Instead they went west and discovered murrica, discovered a shitload of cool tropical islands, made trade everywhere they could, spread goods and culture and technology and made out like kings.

Given the archaeological similarities between discovered works in the americas & elsewhere in the world, & how long there have been boats in this world, it's a pretty safe bet that individuals from everywhere have been steadily, continually "discovering" the americas ever since humans learned boatbuilding from neanderthals and set out on the water.

>>14628With great difficulty, since the west coast has been pretty steadily populated for about 15,000 years, by many, many cultures each more experienced than the last, well-seasoned in the most brutal and effective warfare tailored to the land and environment.

There is some evidence of Chinese contact with Western South America. A bit of pottery and chickens I think is what is boils down to. Likely following the island chains across the Southern Pacific. Not sure that would have ever been a conquest priority for them or Japan. China sat on and controlled the Spice Road the largest and most profitable trade route in history. They had no need to trade extensively with isolated island villages and extremely distant cultures on the opposite side of the ocean when they had the entire eastern hemisphere from Europe to South East Asia tied into their trade network.

The Europeans "found" North and South America by fucking accident. They were trying to find a cheaper way to trade with China and India that didn't involve all the trade middlemen between Europe, the Middle east, Persia, Afghanistan, the Steppe etc etc.

Why waste time conquering incredibly distant lands when you are too busy securing the trade network that has already made you and your ancestors incredibly wealthy, while other cultures wipe each other out trying to get cheaper or larger access to it?

If you're island government was insolvent and dependent on another country for regular multi-million dollar bailours, and you were a politician interested in fixing everything...what would you do? Country has no exceptional resources - just farm land but subject to the other countries law as an 'external territory'. I'm thinking it could declare independence and become a tax haven. I don't know if that works anymore given money laundering laws or whatever. Other options?

Not that the liberal middle and upper class are immune to their own versions of social programming. But at least they are comforted by a smug condescending blanket of self-righteousness and a false sense of intellectual superiority.

Aaaand you'd be wrong. But don't let that dampen your smug sense of superiority over those pesky vegans. Doesn't it just bother you soooo much when someone makes an effort to improve their lives, and you don't? Best to slag them off, and if possible, convince yourself that you know more about what they're doing than they do.

>>14724only one problem: it is not the Inuit who developed civilization, but people living in most fertile land and in a good climate.

In Africa you have places with harsh climate (Beduins on Sahara Desert), places where drought is more common than anywhere else (Ethiopia), there were empires living in constant war in Western Africa and it didn't help.

>>14732I just think that there is a cycle of need for advamncement advancement and laziness that has always applied to humans

European people can't get a breaktry to trade with Asia to improve living standards>plagueBuild massive empires>Horse archers>sand people mad jelly and attack>plagueTry to retain power after eliminating all struggles from their people>the simplicity of the world of no struggles they made destroys them

I feel that life in ancient africa breeded laziness because all they had to worry about were simple things and this subsequently made rulers perhaps even societies with non-existant critical thinking skills

I'd guess they'd be having Industrial Revolution or be approaching it. But that, of course, is nothing but a conjecture.

For example, Africa might've become more advanced than modern society.

If old Egypt didn't have to become isolationist during Broze Age Collapse, it might've went on and expanded, uniting most of Africa (not unlike Roman Empire). Consequently, it would've had an easier transition to the iron metallurgy. Might've happened as early as 5th century B.C.

Then is would be just a question of time, until an advanced monotheistic religion (and from it - atheism and scientific method) would've developed. IIRC there were a few monotheistic religions not related to Abrahamic, so no problem there.

With some luck, Africa would've had it's scientific revolution by 1000 A.D. or earlier, giving it a (relative) headstart on Industrial Revolution. 500 years later - they put human in space.

>>14713I was just thinking about that. Imagine if Russia and Germany allied for once, Germany would regain the Czech Republic, East Prussia, Poland and Austria. Russia would absorb Estonia, Latvia, Ukraine, Lithuania, Poland...

If they did that, no one would be able to stop them, if only they could agree

>>14714The US is already driving a wedge between them by helping out Poland though. Historically Poland has always been a pain in the ass of both countries. Also, there's been some general moves to establish a cordon around Russia. Poland is trying to secure itself as well through the Visegrad group. In any case, a lof of the countries that share a border with Russia are hard to defend, no matter the size of the force. This is especially true for the Baltics - the Russians can hit all their major cities without even having to cross the border.

Russia is really only interested in security. History has been too painful, so they want to be surrounded by at least neutral countries, which is why they are trying so hard to keep Ukraine unstable and out of any western organisations. Putin's done well enough in general, but the major failure of his reign is the inability to establish industry that could domestically refine oil and natural gas. Hence, Russia is economically vulnerable, especially seeing how the low oil prices are most likely the new normal.