Dan Pfeiffer’s Word of the Day: “Irrelevant” (Open Thread)

The word of the day is irrelevant. What’s relevant is that irrelevant is a word that Dan Pfeiffer, an Obama spokesperson and aide, used at least three times when speaking about Obama’s recent hat trick of scandals. Like Susan Rice after Benghazi, Pfeiffer appeared on five Sunday shows this week, in an apparent attempt to spin, spin, spin away the blowback from the scandals.

With regard to the potential illegality of IRS agents specifically targeting certain groups because of their political views, Pfeiffer opined:

The law is irrelevant.The activity is outrageous and inexcusable.

That statement says much about the Obama administration’s attitude towards the law, as well as the Constitution. Activity that is “outrageous” or “inexcusable”, in their opinion, is more relevant than what’s potentially criminal! Why? Because nobody goes to jail for being outrageous or inexcusable. And we don’t need a “special prosecutor” if the activity is merely outrageous and inexcusable, but not criminal.

There’s no doubt that conservative groups were specifically and completely targeted (in other words, PROFILED) by the IRS under OBAMA. Without exceptionevery Tea Party, 9/12, or “patriot” group that applied for tax exempt status during the period in question, roughly 2009 through the 2012 election, was referred for special proctological treatment by politically oriented operatives in Obama’s IRS. This is likely criminal, and unconstitutional to boot.

Next, Pfeiffer used the word irrelevant while discussing the whereabouts of the Commander in Chief as our ambassador and three other Americans were being slaughtered during a terrorist attack on the diplomatic “mission” in Benghazi, Libya:

I don’t remember what room he was in.It’s a largely irrelevant fact.

Irrelevant to whom? The families of the murdered patriots? The families want to know what their sons’ commander in chief was doing while they died. In addition, we all need to learn exactly who gave the “stand down” order to prevent the military from at least attempting to save their lives.

Finally, Pfeiffer responded to a question about those 12 iterations of the Benghazi “talking points” and who exactly made those edits:

I’d like to know what IS relevant to these people. These three scandals have been rife with words of the day, such as “spontaneous” and “inappropriate“; now they add “outrageous” and “inexcusable”. Here are some words I’d like to read with regard to these scandals: impeachment, jail, frog marched.

It’s somewhat heartening to see that this time around the mainstream media aren’t as aptto parrot the Obama-supplied talking points, although there are exceptions.

One concept remains to be vanquished: the foolish idea that “foolish mistakes were made” but now our sole job is to identify the problems, fix them, and “move on.” (We heard this meme from Hillary Clinton after Benghazi: “What difference at this point does it make?” The subtext being, let’s just “move on.”)

We’re told that we should never, ever politicizethese particular scandals (because they plague a “progressive” administration). Politicization is reserved for progressives like Obama. Nixon never caught a break from the media, no matter how ignorant he was of what his minions were up to.

This administration NEVER wants to be held accountable for anything. This president is the most ignorant president in U.S. history. Ignorant in the sense that he apparently knows NOTHING about anything that goes on in his own administration. Like us, he gets his news from the TV, when we do. He says it with a straight face and expects us to believe it.

Obama’s not in the loop on ANYTHING, but especially not anything that might get him or his administration in hot water.

Dan Pfeiffer is well known to us because of the role he played in introducing Obama’s purported “long form birth certificate” to the world. During that event, Obama was similarly and deliberately kept out of the loop. Pfeiffer took pains to advise the media that Obama would NOT be “holding” the birth certificate, nor would the document even remain in the room with Obama:

Pfeiffer implies that what he holds is the actual certificate. But Obama will NOT hold it; will not avow it; will not recognize it; and Pfeiffer will take it with him before Obama arrives to speak. Why?

“… Citizen Wells reported in 2008 that Obama had to win the election to keep from being prosecuted for Chicago corruption ties and involvement and for fraud in his eligibility and records. The same is true for 2012 and now Obama knows that he needs to maintain some control of congress with the 2014 elections.

That is, if he is still around then.

The spectre of Obama’s arrest, impeachment or resignation is more with us than ever.

Consider the following:

Project Gunrunner, aka Fast and Furious, has not been fully investigated.

Benghazi Gate.

IRS Gate.

USDOJ Gate.

The Sheriff Joe Arpaio investigation into the Obama birth certificate and other records is proceeding.

There are at least 2 eligibility cases active in state supreme courts.

Judge Roy Moore is the Supreme Court chief justice in Alabama. He has already questioned Obama’s eligibility and Mike Zullo of the Arpaio investigation has provided a lengthy affidavit.

Appellant H. Brooke Paige is awaiting decisions from the Vermont Supreme Court on several issues. He has challenged Obama’s natural born citizen status due to the father being Kenyan/British.

The Blagojevich appeal is still in the works. Many believe he expects a pardon or other assistance from Obama.

The FDIC lawsuit against Mutual Bank et al is still alive. This is the bank that loaned Rita Rezko the money for the lot adjacent to the Obama’s that was subsequently sold to them.

One has to wonder that if Obama appears to be in jeopardy if Blagojevich or even Rezko will talk. … ”

More at the link. Excellent article. He goes on to report that HALF of Americans want Barry impeached. (The other half either aren’t paying attention or they owe Barry for all their “benefits”. The 47% who contribute little, if anything.)

i am catching up on that one, Mick. This is the crux of the issue and the one thing that that sent alarms off back in 2007 – He is not a natural born citizen of the United States. Its impossible because he has a foreign father according to his narrative. He wasn’t even qualified to run as a candidate let alone go on a ballot!

Chief Justice Roberts, how do you sleep at night? And why did you conduct a second Oath hidden from the public? By what authority did you gain the right to do such a thing — and for what reason? How do we know you didn’t flub it a second time. Chief Justice Roberts is complicit in the usurpation of our government.

We’ll end up speaking Chinese or Farsi if they do not straighten this out. I call on Ted Cruz to be the beacon in this and give up the prospect because of our Constitution. I think its the greatest thing he could do for our Country. He would go down as an American Hero for all time.

TED, its time you came to the aid of your Countrymen! If you love your Country, you will be true.

I didn’t forget it, though. CW did. I’m quoting from his article. There’s another scandal he missed: Sebelius soliciting organizations that she oversees for donations for political actions that SHE wants–dough to implement Obamacare. “DONATE” or else. Which reminds me of how Christians, Jews, and other non-Muslims are “free” to exercise their religion in Sharia-compliant places, IF THEY “SUBMIT” to the religion of “submission” (not “PEACE”; their word means submission. Submit or die, iow.)

This is such a good article. CW is one of my biggest heroes. If it weren’t for him Chicago would be forgotten, swept under the rug. (and NC wouldn’t know the truth about their unemployment stats). Just a wonderful blessing to us all, his relentless trumpet.

Evelyn Pringle brought introduced us very well to Jarrett and CW brought us the rest. Chicago is the needle in the haystack and it gets little attention elsewhere. Rezko Watch/ RBO cracked the nut.
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If you can get your hands on The Combine – 6 Parts -Operation Board Games, read it, and keep it handy. Its the playbook of who’s who and how we got to where we are today. I will never forget Evelyn Pringle.

Print it out and put it in a safe place. Its a fun read and a terrific mystery based on fact. The court Case against Rezko doesn’t even identify the parties involved by name. They’re all coded: Try to find barky. (We could have we the WTPOTUS game night!)

“Sharyl Attkisson, the Emmy-award winning CBS News investigative reporter, says that her personal and work computers have been compromised and are under investigation.

“I can confirm that an intrusion of my computers has been under some investigation on my end for some months but I’m not prepared to make an allegation against a specific entity today as I’ve been patient and methodical about this matter,” Attkisson told POLITICO on Tuesday. “I need to check with my attorney and CBS to get their recommendations on info we make public.”

In an earlier interview with WPHT Philadelphia, Attkisson said that though she did not know the full details of the intrustion, “there could be some relationship between these things and what’s happened to James [Rosen],” the Fox News reporter who became the subject of a Justice Dept. investigation after reporting on CIA intelligence about North Korea in 2009. …

Attkisson told WPHT that irregular activity on her computer was first identified in Feb. 2011, when she was reporting on the Fast and Furious gun-walking scandal and on the Obama administration’s green energy spending, which she said “the administration was very sensitive about.” Attkisson has also been a persistent investigator of the events surrounding last year’s attack in Benghazi, and its aftermath.”

Wow. This is getting HUGE. Could it be OBOTS, like those who attack so many bloggers’ sites and computers (allegedly)?

While the lamestream may have little sympathy for FOX reporters, Attkisson is one of their own. Interesting that suddenly Attkisson is getting the Alinsky demonization from the obots, DemoncRATS, and even her superiors. Gee, I wonder if the hammer’s falling down on her bosses from above (in the O administration) after they saw what was in her personal computer (perhaps)?

“… Since Hillary Clinton last came up to Capitol Hill, we’ve learned senior State Department officials sought to scrub references to terrorism from the infamous Benghazi talking points to insulate Foggy Bottom from political criticism — citing concerns of their “building’s leadership” to justify the demands.

The rising temperature of the scandal means it’s possible that Hillary could be asked to return and testify again. If she comes back, she had better be prepared, says House Oversight and Government Reform chairman Darrell Issa.

“We are interviewing lots of people, most of them under oath,” Issa says, describing the “methodical” approach his committee has been using for months.

“We’re going to go through . . . that so that if we bring Secretary Clinton back, we bring her back when we have a lot of questions, including who told her what, or, more importantly, who didn’t tell her something, and why” Issa says in his office in the Rayburn House Office Building, his foot propped up on a table. …”

What difference, at this point, does it make? 🙂 She is toast already. She can’t weasel out of what she said or didn’t say earlier. Too late.

from above comments… Hill&Issa
RetardintheWH •
Yes Hillary. Tell us how all those stinger missiles got into the hands of AQ and how Stevens was sent to recover them. In the process he was K___d. That’s why no jets were sent. They didn’t want them shot down with our own weapons

A top IRS official in the division that reviews nonprofit groups will invoke the Fifth Amendment and refuse to answer questions before a House committee investigating the agency’s improper screening of conservative nonprofit groups.

Lois Lerner, the head of the exempt organizations division of the IRS, won’t answer questions about what she knew about the improper screening – or why she didn’t reveal it to Congress, according to a letter from her defense lawyer, William W. Taylor 3rd.

Lerner was scheduled to appear before the House Oversight committee Wednesday.

“She has not committed any crime or made any misrepresentation but under the circumstances she has no choice but to take this course,” said a letter by Taylor to committee Chairman Darrell E. Issa, R-Calif. The letter, sent Monday, was obtained Tuesday by the Los Angeles Times. …”

If you’re innocent, you CAN’T take the Fifth, can you? You take the Fifth to avoid self-incrimination. If there’s no crime, there’s no possibility of self-incrimination. Is there? I suppose she wants a deal. Immunity in return for testimony. She needs to be FIRED if she won’t cooperate with Congress. We the People, after all, are her employers and through us, Congress gets its power. What’s she worried about? Pfeiffer has already said it’s “inexcusable” and “outrageous”, but those aren’t crimes. Not looking good. This must be why Barry claimed they’re not going to cooperate on a “fishing expedition”. We’ll see how the people like hearing that OUR EMPLOYEES AT THE IRS REFUSE TO ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS. Get this: She actually wants to be excused from appearing, because she doesn’t intend to answer. That would just “embarrass” or “burden” her, to show up and be made to invoke the Fifth. I say, EMBARRASS THE HELL OUT OF HER FOR REFUSING TO COOPERATE WITH HER EMPLOYERS–WE THE PEOPLE. She wasn’t worried about how burdened Tea Party and other groups were by her potentially illegal political activities and abuse of power. I will be VERY disappointed if they let her skate and don’t make her show up to invoke the Fifth on EVERY QUESTION.

Listening to the hearing, Lerner did plead the Fifth. Issa let her make an opening statement. He asked her to “authenticate” her previous testimonies, which she did. Then he dismissed her. But Trey Gowdy objected to her being dismissed, saying that as in a courtroom, she “waived” her right to not testify by making an opening statement and authenticating prior statements she made to Congress.

Issa excuses her “subject to recall” while they consult over whether she waived her right to not testify and also to investigate whether they could negotiate “immunity” for her testimony. She’s leaving. It’s outrageous, imho.

If Barry truly wants to get to the bottom of this and since he claims to be outraged, he ought to ORDER his employee, a SPOKESPERSON, after all, to testify OR ELSE LOSE HER JOB. She should not be able to stonewall the people of the USA, who pay her salary, by refusing to answer questions from OUR REPRESENTATIVES, especially about contradictory statements made earlier, which have been put into question by other testimony.

The IG person pointed out that he did NOT investigate why the wrongdoing happened at the IRS. All he did was AUDIT. While he had the power to investigate, he didn’t do so. His job was not to pin blame for HOW it happened, but just audit what did happen.

Issa made some bipartisan-like statement to the effect that they all should NOT let Lerner’s lack of cooperation lead them to cast blame on her for exercising her rights. Rep. Jordan pointed out that it’s hardly fair for Lerner to exercise her right to NOT speak about or explain how her agency VIOLATED THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF HUNDREDS OF CITIZENS.

Shulman seems to be a target of the Dems because they fall back on the fact that GWB appointed him; however, Shulman prevaricates, stalls, and does not answer when asked about his own political leanings. He says he didn’t donate to any political cause or person as IRS commissioner (he was appointed in early 2008). I know that I read somewhere that Shulman donated to Obama. News articles cited at Wikipedia about Shulman’s appointment, of course, are “dead links”.

The IG guy, J. Russel George, amazingly testifies that they don’t believe that targeting Americans for their political activities by the IRS is ILLEGAL.

Shulman was really nailed by Elijah Cummings about how he testified to Congress that “absolutely no targeting” was going on but when he learned it WAS going on, he never came back and corrected the record. Shulman falls back on that he was told about all this by Miller (who, imho, is the leader of this), who told him that it was found, corrected, and the applications were being moved along. Of course, another Congressman pointed out that despite all this, for 27 months the IRS did NOT move along the applications, causing these people to be denied their constitutional rights to participate. Shulman also claimed that because Miller told him the IG was investigating, it was proper for him to wait until their AUDIT was over.

Now George, the IG guy, says it’s possible criminal activities did occur. Yesterday, Ann Coulter made a good point: The IRS claims they were overwhelmed with applications and that’s why they targeted. And yet, by targeting, they ended up making far more work for themselves, because the targeted groups were pummeled with additional paperwork.

The IG won’t answer Holmes-Norton about whether or not in the “continuing audit” whether he intends to ask the question whether or not the WHITE HOUSE directed the criteria to be used. She says it’s appropriate to ask if ANYONE outside the IRS directed the targeting. George says he did ask that and presumably all said no. (Of course they would. Do they have a death wish?) As for Shulman, he sounds very much like Barry. He didn’t WANT to know anything, so that he would have implausible deniability. He is combative and he should be, for someone who’s sure he’s innocent. They keep nailing him on his absolute testimony that there’s “no targeting” even though he admits talking to Miller and Lerner prior to testifying and he claims he had “incomplete” information. Who would testify to Congress and say “absolutely not” when he or she didn’t have all the facts? Shulman makes the most ridiculous comment about how targeting wasn’t going on because (sounds like) he argues that Tea Party and other groups voluntarily took part in the screening, which requires further paperwork, in order to become tax exempt. Jim Jordan says 132 Congress people asked him about the issue and 42 news stories were published about the issue, and yet Shulman says he didn’t have full information. Why not? Shulman testified that he could give the Congress and the People “assurances” that no targeting took place and that the IRS is totally non-partisan. Shulman is asked by Jordan if he ever talked to anybody at the WH “about this issue” and he says “I DON’T REMEMBER.” He’s using that excuse a lot: he doesn’t remember or “to the best of my recollection.” 118 times Shulman was at the WH, according to logs! Shulman is nothing if not a smart ass, imho. He has “no memory” of ever having conversations about the subject of “discriminating against conservative groups.” He’s not “absolute” about that!!! Shulman says among the key subjects he discussed in the WH was implementation of Obamacare, and simultaneously he was being questioned about targeting groups that opposed Obamacare, and he says he didn’t discussed the targeting at the WH with anyone.

Chaffetz asked Shulman whether or not at the WH he EVER discussed 501(c)4’s OR the determinations unit of the IRS and he says he doesn’t remember.

Dayton Daily News story:

“Douglas Shulman, a 1985 Oakwood High School graduate, has been nominated by the White House to lead the Internal Revenue Service. The nomination of Shulman, 40, as IRS commissioner still must receive Congressional approval before he can succeed acting commissioner Linda Stiff.

Shulman’s career includes stints in business, securities regulation and public policy. He is vice chairman of the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority Inc., a nongovernmental regulator of U.S. securities firms. He oversees strategy, operations and services for FINRA and also worked with its predecessor, the National Association of Securities Dealers.

An online biography lists Shulman as a co-founder of FoundryOne Inc. a consulting and advisory firm, and before that, vice president of Darby Overseas Investment.

During the 1990s, Shulman worked as a senior policy adviser and chief of staff for the bipartisan National Commission on Restructuring the IRS. Shulman declined comment through a FINRA spokeswoman.

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson in a statement called Shulman an “excellent choice” to head up the tax agency. Paulson said Shulman’s time with the restructuring commission made him knowledgeable in the IRS and its responsibilities.

The Senate Finance Committee must approve Shulman’s nomination before it goes to the full Senate for a vote.”

Washington, DC – Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) and fellow
Finance Committee members today unanimously approved the nomination of Douglas H.
Shulman for Commissioner of the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). The nomination now moves to the full Senate for approval. During his appearance before the Finance panel on Jan. 29, Baucus and other panel members questioned Shulman about the challenges he would face as incoming Commissioner of the IRS, including the agency’s ability to implement the recentlypassed economic stimulus package, the need to capture the billions of dollars in legally owed but unpaid taxes known as the tax gap, and the issue of outdated IRS customer service technologies.

“If the Senate votes to confirm Mr. Shulman, he will have to hit the ground running. Mr.
Shulman has a big job ahead of him, beginning with the very important task of making sure that economic stimulus checks get to millions of Americans in a timely manner,”
Baucus said. “We will support his efforts and the needs of the agency, but it will ultimately fall to him and to the IRS as a whole to improve service and the overall IRS experience for
American taxpayers.”

Shulman is Vice Chairman of the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority.” From 3/6/2008
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How ironic: Democrat Jackie Speier says that a problem they have is that people won’t take responsibility for what happens under their command! OMG.

George says that he hasn’t YET determined who made the targeting list. He says it’s because people aren’t under oath, weren’t forthcoming, and it’s only an “audit” but IF it changes, then they may find out sooner or later. Right. I have a lot of faith that they WANT to find out.

An online biography lists Shulman as a co-founder of FoundryOne Inc. a consulting and advisory firm, and before that, vice president of Darby Overseas Investment.

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Since 1987, the Overseas Private Investment Corporation (OPIC) has become one of the largest providers of capital to emerging market private
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Based in Brazil, AleSat Combustíveis S.A. (“AleSat”) resulted from the merger of Satélite Distribuidora de Petróleo S.A. (“Satélite”) and
ALE Combustíveis S.A. (“ALE”) in 2006. Satélite was founded in 1996 by Mr. Marcelo Alecrim, a local entrepreneur based in Natal, Rio Grande do
Norte. ALE was also founded in 1996 by ASAMAR, a business group from Belo Horizonte, Minas Gerais.

Darby Overseas Investments Ltd., through its Darby Latin America Private Equity Fund, L.P. (“Darby”), became Mr. Alecrim’s private equity partner in 2004. At the time, Satélite had a network of 380 gas stations and a 0.9% national market share. Darby provided needed expansion capital to a well-managed regional player that focused on underserved areas and sought to capture market share in a post-privatized and fragmented competitive landscape.

After Darby’s investment, Satélite started a rapidgrowth trajectory towards other regions, doubling in size prior to its merger with ALE, another leading regional distributor, in 2006. Darby led the merger process and made a follow-on investment in conjunction with the transaction. As a result, AleSat was created as a national company with over 1,000 gas stations and a 4% market share.

Since the merger, AleSat has continued to pursue high organic growth and abundant consolidation opportunities as well as partner with related financial service, automotive product, and convenience store businesses at its gas stations.

In 2008, AleSat announced two acquisitions:

Polipetro and Repsol YPF’s local fuel distribution operations. These acquisitions have consolidated AleSat as the 5th largest fuel distribution company, with annual sales estimated at US$3.5 billion
and a national platform of approximately 1,600 gas stations. Currently, the Company is present in 22 states in Brazil, an area that covers 89%
of the country’s population and 88% of its GDP, generating over 13,000 direct and indirect jobs.

The founder of Brazil’s fourth largest petrol station and distribution group Alesat Combustiveis explains the challenges he has faced building a business in one of the world’s most promising economies

By Richard Tyler
12:05PM BST 15 Jun 2010

“I started 19 years ago in an Esso gas station and I nearly bought the whole of Esso in Brazil,” says Marcelo Alecrim, founder and president of Alesat Combustiveis, Brazil’s fourth-largest petrol station operator.

Mr Alecrim has built up Alesat Combustiveis from the one station owned by his father to more than 1,700 stations.

The growth of the company illustrates the opportunities thrown up by markets that have experienced rapid deregulation and rocketing domestic demand.

Mr Alecrim featured as a Harvard Business School case study when he decided to take investment from private equity firm Darby Overseas Investments to help him expand the business, improve his balance sheet and ensure he could negotiate better interest rates with his bank and key supplier, Petrobas.

You read that headline correctly. Unfortunately, the Obama Administration is financing oil exploration off Brazil.

The U.S. is going to lend billions of dollars to Brazil’s state-owned oil company, Petrobras, to finance exploration of the huge offshore discovery in Brazil’s Tupi oil field in the Santos Basin near Rio de Janeiro. Brazil’s planning minister confirmed that White House National Security Adviser James Jones met this month with Brazilian officials to talk about the loan.

The U.S. Export-Import Bank tells us it has issued a “preliminary commitment” letter to Petrobras in the amount of $2 billion and has discussed with Brazil the possibility of increasing that amount. Ex-Im Bank says it has not decided whether the money will come in the form of a direct loan or loan guarantees. Either way, this corporate foreign aid may strike some readers as odd, given that the U.S. Treasury seems desperate for cash and Petrobras is one of the largest corporations in the Americas.

Good one, Zenway. EXACTLY. They don’t want to disclose the truth, because they have too much to hide. I’m still trying to figure out what the fifth shoe is that is possibly going to drop–the one that has the WH aides terrified.

i am seriously thinking it is the bona-fides. the lack thereof as well as the forgeries. You may have seen it already today as I only got a chance to peek and plan to visit later — Citizen WElls is on the “warpath” as they would say in my neck of the woods.

What an ass. CREATING talking points that lied was the “political” action. Not investigating their lies about the murder of our people and why the Commander in Chief did NOTHING while they died. What was the next partisan issue? The Obama administration using the power of the IRS POLITICALLY to persecute political opponents! But the Republicans are being partisan by investigating it! Just like every person who questions Obama is a RACIST, now they’re PARTISAN, too.

He said, “We could go down the list. … What about the president’s birth certificate–was that legitimate?” Well, Carney Barker, what about it? YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION under oath, please.

“Obama is practicing the lessons he learned by studying and becoming a grandmaster and instructor of Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals in the methods to use to undermine the USA from within and win that goal at any cost including of course, lying. Lying is also a permitted tactic of Islamic radicals to further their goals under the Islamic teachings of Taqiyya. Lying to Obama is second nature to him as it is for all in the networks of Communist operatives in pursuing their goals to destroy America. Obama is embodied with the Trifecta of lying teachings and culture.”

“Listen up Frontpage, you have failed to cover the on going criminal investigation of this Fraud in Chief. The investigation began before the April 27th, 2011 birther certificate release and became a criminal investigation shortly after the release. Not only is the bc a forgery, the liars SS# is fraudulent and flagged by E-Verify for being fraudulent and the liars Selective Service registration was fraudulent also, that happened in 2008. Frontpage needs to wake up and smell the scandal, the scandal that will finally end this nightmare and the radical progressive movement in America.”

Chief U.S. District Court Judge Royce Lamberth overruled a decision by a federal magistrate in September, 2010, who had previously determined that Rosen required notification if his personal email account…

” Or maybe his talk of being a one-timer has something to do with this:

Atty. Orly Taitz has resubmitted her complaints to the U.S. District Court in Washington, DC in accordance with Judge Royce Lamberth’s request and is awaiting his decision regarding a “Vaughn Motion” which would require the government to “state whether or not they have” Obama’s original social security application.”

Trick question being asked on facebook by liberal progressives of conservatives; anyone want to help answer? Please?
“(Just for grins and giggles) True or False: the US Constitution gives rights to non-US citizens?”

Bear with me a second on this foreigners and the Constitution question. There are two components to citizenship: civil and political. The federal government can only grant civil. States grant political. The true test of citizenship is political, which is participation in the political process…voting. You can have civil and not have political, but if you have political, you have both. With the exception of the amendment that forbids excluding someone from voting based on race or gender if they meet all other qualifications, the states decide who may have disabilities that prevent full exercise of political citizenship.

What does that have to do with the rights of foreigners on our shores? The federal gov’t only has jurisdiction in civil rights protections, therefore, it can grant civil protections to visitors while within U.S. jurisdiction and does so to protect the rights of American when in foreign countries. Once the foreigner leaves U.S. jurisdiction, the protections cease. Treaties often address this issue. If we have no treaty with a country that includes protections of Americans’ civil rights while temporarily within the foreign country’s jurisdiction, we owe none to the visitor from their country, but because equality under the law is a principle this country was founded on, foreigners are afforded temporary civil protections while here because they are under U.S. jurisdiction and owe allegiance to the U.S. and its laws while on our soil. This does not grant them the rights of full citizenship. Just civil protections.

The tie-in with citizenship is that federal government can only administer, within the scope of its Constitutional authority, the rights over which it has any jurisdiction, thereby having the authority to temporarily extend civil rights under the law to foreigners while under U.S. jurisdiction. The Constitution doesn’t grant foreigners any rights. The federal government extends them as a matter of courtesy, protection of U.S. citizens outside U.S. jurisdiction and in keeping with equal civil rights under the law while on U.S. soil.

Miri is absolutely right: The Constitution does not grant one single right. It charges the federal government with protecting them. All of them, including the unalienable rights of the citizens.

To take this a step further and slightly away from the original question about foreigners, think on this a little. Think about the 14th Amendment and the problems that arose after its ratification, both on a state and federal level and why and how those problems happened, keeping in mind that the federal government could still only grant civil rights under the law within its scope to do so. Also include that the founders and subsequent early generations (even though the Cable Act of 1922 that separated a woman’s citizenship from her husband’s increased confusion) were adamant that a person could be loyal to only one country and that dual citizenships were an unacceptable practice. They happened, sure, because other countries did not recognize expatriation at the time, but it was and continues to be (unless recently altered) the U.S.’s stance to discourage dual citizenships. The concepts of civil and political rights, what the federal government can and cannot do, and how the feudal practice of granting citizenship to anyone born on the soil was rectified to make this philosophy work, are consistent. They all tie together.

The understanding of these concepts began to change in the mid-1800’s when the courts starting relying solely on English Common Law, instead of American Common Law and the British Law that shaped it. Common Law is only common law until it’s codified. Once it’s codified, it’s no longer common law. Each colony had its own uniquely evolved common law and codified law based in the influence of British Law, common and codified. This is why the founders said they did not do away with common law–that belonged to the state’s jurisdiction–and that the Constitution is not based in British Law, neither common nor codified. It also helps to look at early Roman citizenship laws, since our federal concepts about citizenship were heavily influenced by early Roman Law (as was British Law until feudalism took over). Much of the structure will look amazingly familiar.

Just a little side trip this question about foreigners brought to mind. I’ll return you now to your regularly scheduled program. :>)

Me, too. It’s interesting to apply Barry’s probable situation to what 7delta wrote. He was (at best) a dual citizen. At worst, just another foreigner here on our suffrage. In either case, probably ineligible for the presidency, absent proof that he’s NOT the son of BHO Sr. and is the son of two US citizens and born here.

Excellent treatise! We appreciate it. I was responding with regard to the allegation that it’s a trick question, which, imho, it was. The Constitution does not GIVE rights. It only protects them. Since the premise of the question was false, there was no point in arguing whether or not foreigners had constitutional rights.

Military suffers wave of “gay sex assaults” … We’ve got a male-on-male
problem here…OH REALLY…. what fools letting this pass… the same with women in combat…the ASS-aults….are climbing…when reported..the women some how get told to let it slide…then just get “let go” with other problems etc. … And the BOY SCOUTS….will get their share of it also!!!! nasty!

“My friend and colleague Diana West introduced her magnificent, if dark opus “American Betrayal,” during an interview with Sun TV’s Michael Coren which provides an excellent synopsis of the book’s major themes.”

“Diana West talked about her book, American Betrayal: The Secret Assault on Our Nation’s Character, in which she argues that the U.S. has been “marching toward socialism” since the 1940s, abandoning its core ideals in the process.”

Listened to every minute of this great interview. Thanks GORDO. Im familiar with all the stuff she talks about, but have always come away so completely complexed on this stuff. She put some of this in such an understandable context. I loved it. Wow, she leaves no stone overturned in her research. I think I’ll get her books….. Again thanks to you GorDO for turning us on to her. Wish more journalists were like her with facts.

Now , if only she would take up research into Obama with the fury she has ,wouldn’t that be astounding….her getting to the roots of Obama and all his secrets/his real family ties…his travels, his document, his law practice, his real past. Bet that would make an astounding wave of giant purportions would it not? She does reiterate what Beck said and others, that Mrs. Obama saw the detained person in the hospital. Further inquiry needed, don’t you think.

“Spineless elite ignore Obama fraud”
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“As I’ve previously noted, some media outlets that subscribe to this column have informed me they won’t run anything I write on the eligibility subject.

No doubt other writers are similarly censored – sometimes even after publication. For example, on March 5, 2012, Floyd and Mary Beth Brown’s syndicated column, “Sheriff Joe Exposes Forgery of Obama’s Selective Service Registration,” appeared at Townhall.com. Then it was taken down. On March 24, 2012, John Mariotti published a piece at Forbes.com called “Is There an Impostor in the White House?” That was taken down, too. As WND noted, Geraldo Rivera’s May 24, 2012, WABC radio interview with “birther Lord Christopher Monckton” is still listed in the WABC archive, but the audio file of the show is no longer there.”

“PHONY DOCUMENT GIVES BIRTH TO A COVER-UP”
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“Listening to posse lead investigator Mike Zullo describe the investigation’s itinerary during the posse’s recent trip to Hawaii, a picture of statewide stonewalling emerges. Dead ends guarded by hunkered-down public officials. The same non-answers to the simplest questions. Canned responses. If CNN, Chris Matthews, Obama press secretary Jay Carney, Rachel Maddow, the Huffington Post and the Los Angeles Times all didn’t know so much better, a neutral observer might say it sounded like a conspiracy – an agreement between at least two people to do something shifty.”

“Warning: You Are About to Read a “Forbidden” Column”
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“Yup, I am about to say something about the Great Barack Obama Identity/Eligibility Scandal again. I know that this is one rich and urgent topic that doesn’t see the light of day in certain so-called news outlets – and I say that from the experience of watching my own syndicated columns fail to appear when covering news of the White House press conference where the president’s long-form birth certificate was unveiled, news of courtroom proceedings in various states on Obama’s ballot eligibility and news of Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s investigators presenting evidence that the online Obama birth certificate is a forgery (and – much – more).”

“White House Communications Director Complains of “Doctored” Documents…BUT STANDS BY A “COMPUTER-GENERATED FORGERY””

“(May 21, 2013) — White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer complained on the Sunday talk shows that Republicans had possession of emails exchanged among regime members relating to the terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya, one of which they allegedly “doctored to smear the president.”

Pfeiffer therefore accused the Republicans of the crime of forgery of an official government document.
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Pfeiffer’s photo appears above the image purported to be Obama’s long-form birth certificate posted on the White House website since April 27, 2011, but the image has been declared a “computer-generated forgery.”
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After the image was posted more than two years ago, Pfeiffer wrote that the questions surrounding Obama’s purported birth in Hawaii were “a fake issue.” Also on the White House website is a black-and-white version of Obama’s purported short-form birth certificate which Pfeiffer claims was sent to the Obama campaign in 2008 by officials in Hawaii. However, it first appeared at The Daily KOS with a green background, and it, too, has been termed a forgery.”

Lawmakers pressing for more heads to roll at the Internal Revenue Service are going to be disappointed.

“Why weren’t more people fired?” Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) demanded at a hearing Tuesday on the IRS’s targeting of conservative groups, channeling the frustration of his colleagues.

Turns out it’s not so easy.

In fact, it appears that no one has been formally reprimanded and a spokesperson for the union representing IRS workers said it hasn’t been called to help any employees yet. Most employees involved in the targeting program are covered by protections for federal workers that could drag out the termination process. …”

Yup. That would certainly be “inapt”, wouldn’t it? Was Reggie “in the house” that night? Did I read somewhere that people want the WH visitor logs for that day? Could it be possible that they’ve been scrubbed?

English Defense League responds with protests and violence to the British soldier being decapitated on a public street in broad daylight, “EDL leader Tommy Robinson said: “They’re chopping our soldiers’ heads off. This is Islam. That’s what we’ve seen today. They’ve cut off one of our army’s heads off on the streets of London.

Good for them. Unlike those guys, however, the story in my local paper took great pains to NOT identify the perps’ color, religion, or motivation. We wouldn’t want a backlash against “peaceful” Muslims. How racist and Islamophobic is that English Defense League, anyway? 😉