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I was talking to a friend about certain albums turning 25 next year, earlier today (unrelated to NIN) and then I thought about NINs records... PHM is turning 30 next year, TDS is 25 and The Fragile is going to be 20, all in the same year.

That's a huge missed opportunity from Trent if he doesn't have something planned for at least one of these records. All 3 of these are hitting huge milestones next year, damn!

I was talking to a friend about certain albums turning 25 next year, earlier today (unrelated to NIN) and then I thought about NINs records... PHM is turning 30 next year, TDS is 25 and The Fragile is going to be 20, all in the same year.

That's a huge missed opportunity from Trent if he doesn't have something planned for at least one of these records. All 3 of these are hitting huge milestones next year, damn!

Maybe in celebration, they release the Def version of WT,YZ and TS. Fingers crossed!

10-15 is being generous. We have maybe 6 at most, lol. Hence why artists rarely come here for a full blown tour. It's usually Just a Toronto show, with the odd Montreal or Vancouver show sprinkled in there sometimes. We always get the shaft.

I'd like to see a 2nd leg of the Cold and Black... tour to hit up the secondary markets in 2019. I hope next year has NIN in it some capacity. We've been so spoiled these last few years with NIN material and live shows that I can't fathom going a whole year without something NIN releated now (and to think we used to go 5 years between releases like it was normal lol).

The thing with Canada we don't necessarily have these 5000 seaters theater. I know there are none in Montreal. It's either full blown arena or you play a smaller venue like the MTelus which is about 2300. There is nothing in between.

I was talking to a friend about certain albums turning 25 next year, earlier today (unrelated to NIN) and then I thought about NINs records... PHM is turning 30 next year, TDS is 25 and The Fragile is going to be 20, all in the same year.

That's a huge missed opportunity from Trent if he doesn't have something planned for at least one of these records. All 3 of these are hitting huge milestones next year, damn!

I'm super excited to still not get the 5.1 mix of The Fragile that's been ready to go since 2009. HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!

The thing with Canada we don't necessarily have these 5000 seaters theater. I know there are none in Montreal. It's either full blown arena or you play a smaller venue like the MTelus which is about 2300. There is nothing in between.

It's like that here as well. A lot of "mid sized" bands will play the Commodore Ballroom, but that only has a capacity of 995. There is also the PNE forum, but only hosts 1800.
Those are for open floor venues anyway. There is the Queen Elizabeth Theatre, which is a little over 2900 seating, but that's a seated venue. That's garbage. Sometimes metal bands will play there, and it's the most awkward thing in the world. I think they can take out the first 6 rows of seats for a small pit though.

So, Vancouver doesn't have any mid sized 4000-5000 capacity venues either. Could be the reason. But still, book 2-3 back to back nights at one of these 1800-2900 seated venues and he'll sell out the show easily. In 2005 he did 2 nights at the kool haus in Toronto and that only had a capacity of 2500. So he's no stranger to smaller venues.

With all these rumors of festival slots popping up, maybe Montebello rockfest finally got them this year and that's when they're going to play some Canadian dates around that. If rockfest is still a thing, last I heard is they were going bankrupt. Read an interview after the 2018 edition where Alex Martell said things weren't looking good financially for Rockfest and he's not sure if it'll return next year, or at all. That's not good. That's the last thing Canada needs, is another big music festival like that to bite the dust.

Originally Posted by klyrish

I'm super excited to still not get the 5.1 mix of The Fragile that's been ready to go since 2009. HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!

Funny you mention that, I put on the 5.1 mix of With Teeth a couple weeks ago while doing something around the house and forgot how bad-ass it was. Then I started to question if 5.1 mixes were still a thing. Seemed to be pretty short lived. I an't help but get the feeling that the "special" Fragile thing we got was deviations, and that's all we're going to get regarding the Fragile ever. We salivated for 10 years over some "mystery deluxe super fragile special edition" and all it was was deviations. Yes, I'm disappointed. It's not what I was expecting. Deviations is neat and all, but not what I was expecting. Hope there is something else, but I fear that's it regarding re-releases for The Fragile.

Time to move onto With Teeth now I guess. Give me those missing bonus tracks from the With_Teeth lyrics poster! lol

Hellfest was streamed this year. If they do a summer festival run, I really hope there are more streams.

What ? Hellfest is streamed every time, and eurockeenes used the exact same streaming website...... Nin just refused.

Originally Posted by witte

The same certainty as this year?

Again, the rumor was from Zegut, so it reached the super serious rumor level this year. Actually as everytime, zegut was right for all rumors, and nin was mentionned several times for press conference by the hellfest guy, as a failure, he even talked about theme not fitting with nin. Nin was looking for a festival and they picked Eurockeenes.

Just got round to watching that Q&A in Mexico and really excited to hear they are discussing dates next year from the horses mouth! Please just don’t burn yourselves out and end NIN ‘forever’ again, not that I’ll believe it but it’s just a downer.

although if we’re putting in requests, 3 or 4 nights at Brixton Academy in London would be appreciated

Give me a summer amphitheater tour with a band of similar popularity co-headlining (but playing first like Soundgarden did). NIN/A Perfect Circle could definitely work at this point in time.

no thanks to amphitheater tour.
i don't know enough about other Canadian cities but in Toronto theres lots of options!

if NIN can play at the Fox Theatre in Detroit, then why not Roy Thompson Hall in Toronto? Queen Elizabeth Theatre, Danforth Music Hall, Massey Hall, Sony Theatre...i could point out a few more places but you get the point.. i think..
anyway, much much better places to play than that damn amphitheater.
i am really hoping for a few Canadian dates in 2019, fingers crossed.

With A Perfect Circle, Alice in Chains, Ghost, Foo Fighters, System of a Down, Rammstein, and Smashing Pumpkins on tour right now, plus Tool likely kicking off a touring cycle in 2019 to promote their highly anticipated and extremely delayed new album, there is ample opportunity for some amazing festival lineups in 2019! Too bad they'll probably all be overseas.

Just got round to watching that Q&A in Mexico and really excited to hear they are discussing dates next year from the horses mouth! Please just don’t burn yourselves out and end NIN ‘forever’ again, not that I’ll believe it but it’s just a downer.

although if we’re putting in requests, 3 or 4 nights at Brixton Academy in London would be appreciated

Is there a link for that? Had no idea he mentions dates for next year on video.

Is there a link for that? Had no idea he mentions dates for next year on video.

I think people are taking the "talking about dates" quote in the wrong perspective. The question was related to whether there will be new HTDA or NIN music next year, and they go off on a tangent answering the question a bit and then go back to it and say "We are currently discussing dates" and I think the word "dates" was misinterpreted by some as dates for live shows, I think what they really mean are dates for when to start recording and/or when new music could/should be released etc.

I think people are taking the "talking about dates" quote in the wrong perspective. The question was related to whether there will be new HTDA or NIN music next year, and they go off on a tangent answering the question a bit and then go back to it and say "We are currently discussing dates" and I think the word "dates" was misinterpreted by some as dates for live shows, I think what they really mean are dates for when to start recording and/or when new music could/should be released etc.

No but Trent clearly stated there was more touring for NIN and they weren't done when in San Antonio. So it has to be NIN related.

No but Trent clearly stated there was more touring for NIN and they weren't done when in San Antonio. So it has to be NIN related.

Not saying there won't be any more live shows again, I just don't see any in 2019. I'd love to be proven wrong, but at Las Vegas 2 nights ago he said "These are the last shows for a while"

So, he didn't say "last shows ever", but he knows he won't be playing anytime soon. Obviously, plans can change all the time, but I don't see shows in 2019 after that statement. Unfortunate too, because 2019 is a huge milestone year for most of NIN's big records. 30 years for PHM, 25 for TDS and 20 years for The Fragile. Huge missed opportunity if at least 1 of those records doesn't get some sort of a celebration.