Doing art as Fuck This Life, Weirdo Dave (born David Sandey), uses the medium of magazine and newspaper clippings. Collage is nothing new, but it’s his selection of provocative images and their careful reassembly that triggers maximum blast. His most recent work is large scale, spanning the wall for Supreme’s square footage inside Dover Street Market New York, a recently opened transformative shopping experience from Japan’s Comme des Garçons team.
Sage Elsesser and Sean Pablo Murphy have been anointed next generation by the likes of Weirdo Dave and Jason Dill. Young guns/youth crew. #Tanboys. Supreme Team, they ride Fucking Awesome boards while filmed by Bill Strobeck.

SAGE ELSESSER: I guess we should start with this interview and I guess to start it we got to be like, what’s your name? What size waist are you?

EVERYBODY: (laughs)

SAGE: Hi, I’m Sage. I wear a 30/30, but I’m trying to aim for a 31 waist right now.

TODD JORDAN: What sign are you?

SAGE: I’m an Aquarius.

TODD: What’s that, June?

SAGE: January through middle of February, I believe.

WEIRDO DAVE: Where were you when the Sex Pistols formed?

SAGE: Probably my mom’s stomach.

TODD: Probably not even there yet. How old are you?

SAGE: Sixteen.

TODD: Motherfuckers.

DAVE: How old is Sean Pablo?

SEAN PABLO MURPHY: Sixteen, just turned it.

TODD: He just turned sixteen? Fuck you, guys.

SAGE: Too bad whoever is listening to this interview, right now I’m giving you the middle finger. Fuck you, you suck. And have fun typing this in, I hope it takes three fucking hours.

TODD: Three hours? It’ll take three days.

SAGE: Three fucking hours per question.

TODD: Who’s talking to who? Roundtable Barbara Walters.

DAVE: 60 Minutes.

TODD: Let’s start back with the first video, your first skate video, so everybody can get an idea of the era that you came from.

SAGE: Well, actually the first skate video I can remember having in my house was the 411 tapes, I don’t know how my mom had them, but I had VHS tapes and I also had the Termite VHS. I remember it had a song, “The Termites Ate My House Up” (laughs) and Austyn Gillette ollied off a fucking roof.

TODD: You’re talking about that little kid shit. What was the other one? The one that Spanky skated for?

SAGE: Hawk?

TODD: Nah.

DAVE: Pharmacy?

TODD: Nah, it was the first little kid company, like Gromit?

SEAN: Grom King?

SAGE: Dude, I’m not even going to lie, I had a fucking Termite complete with
Grind King trucks on it.

TODD: Sick!

DAVE: What wheels?

SAGE: They were like blank wheels, the real slippery ones that was hard as ever.

DAVE: What’s your favorite thing about skateboarding right now? Like, why would you skateboard over doing anything else in the world?

SAGE: Because I’m doing it with the best people.

DAVE: Between you and Sean Pablo, which one of you is Mick Jagger and which one of you is Keith Richards?

SAGE: I’d say Sean is Mick Jagger.

SEAN: No way.

SAGE: He’s the pretty one, he has the moves.

DAVE: Who’s the handsomer of the two?

SAGE: Of us?

DAVE: Yeah.

SEAN: Oh c’mon, this dude.

SAGE: Are you fucking kidding? Dude, you get way more ladies than I do.

DAVE: What is the best potato chip on the market right now?

SAGE: I’m going to have to go with, probably, like a jalapeño or seasalt and vinegar Kettle Chips. That’s a hard one.

DAVE: Jalapeño cheddar took over. It’s like everything is jalapeño cheddar, that’s like the new shit.

SAGE: You ever had Cheetos like that? So fat-boy-fantasy.

DAVE: You ever put jalapeño cheddar Cheetos in a hamburger?

SAGE: No, but I know damn well you have put some nacho cheese on—

DAVE: EVERYTHING.

SAGE: Dude, you ever had those Fritos from the ice cream truck with the chili cheese?

DAVE: Chili cheese? That’s like some LA shit. You can’t get that in New York.

SAGE: Nah. Lets do it. Dave, play the record on your player backwards.

TODD: What’s your favorite record to listen to backwards?

SAGE: Probably “American Flag” by Cat Power, so I can figure out where the fuck those drums came from, ’cause they are backwards, so if you run it backwards, you’ll hear it normal.

TODD: The drums?

SAGE: Those are the Beastie Boys’ drums.

TODD: You guys ever skate with headphones on?

SEAN: Yeah, but when I’m by myself.

TODD: Only by yourself?

SEAN: Yeah, I’ll do it with other people, but it’s not really that good of a look.

SAGE: I’ve done it.

SEAN: But I think certain people can pull it off.

SAGE: Paulo Diaz can.

DAVE: Tony Alva.

SEAN: Oh, yeah. Muska.

SAGE: Muska got a fucking boom box.

SEAN: Tony Karr.

SAGE: Lutzka!

TODD: Greg Lutzka with the big white ones.

SAGE: Greg Lutzka, if you’re seeing this, fuck you!

TODD: He had the harshest headphones. You guys are talking about people who can pull it off?

SAGE & SEAN: Yeah.

TODD: (laughs) Ok.

SEAN: There’s not a lot.

TODD: When I heard you say Lutzka, I thought you were joking. He can’t pull it off.

SEAN: Muska can pull it.

DAVE: Anytime I see a skater with an iPhone and headphones, I’m like, dude, do you know your photo’s going to be taken? It’s like, dude, get it together, dog. Listen to your fucking rap song, get it in your head, and then go skating. You don’t need the actual thing in your face unless you’re Tony Alva and you got the headband.

SEAN: Sage, what trick are you psyched on right now? Like most psyched on. Like what trick are you trying to learn?

SAGE: Both. What type of question is that? If you’re not flipping in and you’re not flipping out, you’re not fucking doing it (laughs).

SEAN: Best trick wins.

DAVE: What color was the girl you made out with last?

SAGE: Her skin color?

DAVE: Yeah.

SAGE: She was white. Actually, she might be kinda Asian, yeah, I think she’s like, half Asian… Have you guys ever rolled weed in a dollar bill? Dude you gotta glue it, you can usually just take a piece of tape.

TODD: Have you done that?

DAVE: What’s your favorite skate team?

SAGE: Skate team?

DAVE: Or moment when all the dudes were on the same team.

SAGE: Right now or any time period?

SEAN: Any time period.

SAGE: It’ll be soon, that’s my opinion.

DAVE: Where were you the first time you saw Mouse?

SAGE: Hmm, I think downstairs in my grandparents’ house.

DAVE: On the Internet?

SAGE: Yeah, on the big desktop computer.

SEAN: That was before our time, dude.

SAGE: Yeah, so before our time.

DAVE: But like, that first time you saw it, what made you
wanna look for it?

SAGE: I don’t know, it was Girl and you just knew that Girl was the best.

SEAN: Like Goldfish, Mouse, Yeah Right!, you just got to see it for yourself.

SAGE: Yeah, when I put a Mark Gonzales sticker on my board. But the best one was when I dropped a match on his rug, ’cause I lit it and I was seeing how long it would light for and I just started staring at the flame and dropped it on his rug and he goes, “Anything in the fucking house but the rug.” He’s like, “Sage, I’m serious, anything in the fucking house but the rug.”

TODD: That was in LA?

SAGE: Yeah.

TODD: What type of rug was it?

SAGE: It was this really nice one that AVE gave to him. It’s a really nice rug, it’s a good one.

DAVE: Are we supposed to do some focused questions?

TODD: Other than skateboarding and fashion, do you guys go check out art while you’re in New York?

SEAN: You can get inspiration for skateboarding from all types of shit. From art, people on the street, you can take anything and bring it into your skateboarding.

SAGE: I feel like skating gets a little overwhelming sometimes, so you need something else to do and being in fucking boarding school I just need to play piano and make shit, look at the newspaper.

DAVE: How do you feel about being an African American artist?

SAGE: What the fuck? What the fuck I look like nigga? Does this look like a fuckin’ game?

DAVE: Being one of the only Asians not good at math, how the fuck did you not get into college? It’s like, I didn’t.

EVERYBODY: (laughs)

DAVE: I was talking to Alex Olson at the bar one night about a spaceship and low and behold, first thing in the morning, he has a meeting at Nike and he talks about my fucking idea. Nah, look, Star Wars? Nah. I really wasn’t tripping off that, Planet of the Apes? Yo, live nigga. But my spaceship skate park? Don’t fuck with my shit. Or rather, my ship, don’t fuck with my ship (laughs). Pun intended.

CAM’RON GILES: Front row, we been front row. Niggas ain’t even know, Dame. We done been at like, all of these fashion shows.

DAMON DASH: Word.

CAM’RON: I gotta say, thank you, by the way, for taking me to all them shits, back in the day. Now they be like, “Cam’s here.” Last season, when I went to fashion week, they were making niggas get up (from the front row). I was popping up at fashion shows — and I went with JuJu. They were telling people, “Oh yeah? No. Your seats got messed up.” Anything fashion show we go to, we good.

DAMON: You know I know what it is. You know how I do.

CAM’RON: I know, nigga. You took me to my first fashion shows.

DAMON: Yo, and we went in frontin’ on niggas.

CAM’RON: Word.

DAMON: We used to be stuntin’ on ‘em. ’Cus we was out, we was doing the fashion shows right when the Pink was prime. They ain’t even know about it.

CAM’RON: Yeah, exactly. Actually, nobody was even on Pink. We made it prime. Yo, you know Crayolas want them niggas a color, man.

DAMON: Please do that. That’s so legit. My daughter can color with some.

CAM’RON: We gonna get our own color.

DAMON: Yeah. For stuntin’ purposes, that be crazy.

CAM’RON: Yo, we gonna start making our own capes too.

DAMON: They got to cost at least like, $5,000.

CAM’RON: That’s what I’m saying. We have to have high-end capes and not just throwaway capes neither.

DAMON: They gotta represent money.

CAM’RON: Word. We’ll do the short capes for the girls and then the full length capes. It’s kinda mink-ish, you know what I’m saying? Like in fall, we would have denim, but it be a nice denim, not rough, you know what I’m saying? Or it could be linen, in the spring.

DAMON: That would be acting up.

CAM’RON: Like there’s a lot of shit. Even the liquor, we got to capitalize off that.

DAMON: I’ve been waiting. All you got to do is tell me which one, and we making it.

CAM’RON: I gotta sit down and think about it.

DAMON: That’s all I’m waiting on. You know — the sooner the better, because it takes a year. I just got to start developing the liquid.

CAM’RON: That ain’t no problem. I’m just thinking, marketing wise—

DAMON: Anything you do that’s good is gonna crack.

CAM’RON: Like Rick Ross started fucking with this champagne. I was in the ’hood and everybody had shit on New Year’s. I went to my man’s New Year’s party and they had mad cases of that shit out there.

DAMON: That’s how it is. Like you know it, though. We did — we started that.

CAM’RON: That’s what I’m telling you.

DAMON: We started that shit.

CAM’RON: We did that with a lot of shit. Cologne. We had cologne up in Macy’s before J-Lo, Puff, anybody.

DAMON: Yeah. Exactly. We had the Oh Boy. Yeah, we do that.

CAM’RON: Yo, you know what would be dope, though, that niggas was talking about?

DAMON: What?

CAM’RON: Like, you know how niggas go on the Maury show and try and talk it out? What if you had real three-round fights for niggas with problems. It be like, “Nah, that nigga been owing me money for two or three years.”

DAMON: Call it, The Fair One.

CAM’RON: Word. Yeah, The Fair One.

DAMON: I need three rounds with Steve Stoute.

CAM’RON: Shit like that. You know what I’m saying?

DAMON: Word up.

CAM’RON: He ain’t going to do it — but I’m talking about on some Maury Povich shit but like in the ring. You know what I’m saying? Like, you got regular ’hood niggas that got beef with other niggas. Let’s say, for instance, he wants to fight, because a nigga owe him $75 for like, two years and he thinks it’s a joke. He be like, “I want to fight so and so. He musta forgot. He acting like I work for free. I’ll fight the nigga.” Then a nigga be losing and be like, “Man, you lost $75 — and you got an ass whooping.” You know how many people be lining up?

DAMON: That would be dope.

CAM’RON: I’m talking like, state to state.

DAMON: (laughs) Word. Like, even a dude that fucked your girl or something.

CAM’RON: Exactly. Word.

DAMON: It be like, “This nigga my cousin and he be fucking my cousin and my girl.”

CAM’RON: And then he want to fight his mom’s boyfriend.

DAMON: “This nigga been picking on me since I was nineteen. I don’t give a fuck if he forty-two years old.”

CAM’RON: (laughs) All you gotta do is set it up. Let me take care of everything else.

DAMON: I was gonna ask you something but I forgot.

CAM’RON: What — you wanted to talk about Bernard some more?

DAMON: Nah. You already did a song about it. Sen, you heard the record?

SEN CITY: Yeah, he said he wants to fight B-Hop. Wait, are you serious?

CAM’RON: Yeah, I’m serious, I’m at like, 197, right now but I ain’t working out. I get down to one, 182, 181. To be serious, I can get down to 180 and be comfortable. Eat right, detox for like two months, don’t smoke, I can be down to 180.

SEN: Bernard been fighting for like, forty years, my nigga. He done did ten years in jail.

DAMON: I told you it was ten years.

SEN: For armed robbery.

CAM’RON: It was five. Google it, man.

SEN: We got free tickets to the fight.

CAM’RON: Fam, first of all, we going to get $10,000,000 in sponsorship alone.

SEN: Hip hop media, boxing media.

CAM’RON: You there. You already there. See our generation there. You already see where I’m going with this, man.

DAMON: You can make a lot of money doing a lot of things.

CAM’RON: We can still make a lot of money doing a lot of things — and if we win — we going to make extra money. Niggas get invited to the ESPY Awards. We going to Denver so I can train in high altitude.

DAMON: His first fight is going to be against Bernard Hopkins — what you think about that fight? How’s it going to go down?

CAM’RON: Even if I lose. I’m not getting knocked out.

SEN: He might catch you with a few body punches. He going to get hit.

CAM’RON: He going to get hit. He going to get hit more than I get hit. I’m not saying power punches or nothing, but the amount of times I’m going to jab this nigga — I watched the Jermain Taylor fight the other day, man. Him and Jermain. I’ve been doing my homework on this nigga. Punches in bunches, man. You got to be active with him, man. That’s how Chad Dawson beat him, too. Active. Niggas want to start slugging it out. Nah, man. We ain’t on that.

SEN: You used to box?

CAM’RON: I used to, back in my uncle’s gym. But that was when I was like nine or ten. I ain’t even going to act like I got no boxing experience. I don’t. I got — I know I’m not going to get knocked out — experience. And I know, fuck around if I do win, and shit be crazy. Y’all giving Bernard too much credit.

Doing art as Fuck This Life, Weirdo Dave (born David Sandey), uses the medium of magazine and newspaper clippings. Collage is nothing new, but it’s his selection of provocative images and their careful reassembly that triggers maximum blast. His most recent work is large scale, spanning the wall for Supreme’s square footage inside Dover Street Market New York, a recently opened transformative shopping experience from Japan’s Comme des Garçons team.

Sage Elsesser and Sean Pablo Murphy have been anointed next generation by the likes of Weirdo Dave and Jason Dill. Young guns/youth crew. #Tanboys. Supreme Team, they ride Fucking Awesome boards while filmed by Bill Strobeck.

SAGE ELSESSER: I guess we should start with this interview and I guess to start it we got to be like, what’s your name? What size waist are you?

EVERYBODY: (laughs)

SAGE: Hi, I’m Sage. I wear a 30/30, but I’m trying to aim for a 31 waist right now.

TODD JORDAN: What sign are you?

SAGE: I’m an Aquarius.

TODD: What’s that, June?

SAGE: January through middle of February, I believe.

WEIRDO DAVE: Where were you when the Sex Pistols formed?

SAGE: Probably my mom’s stomach.

TODD: Probably not even there yet. How old are you?

SAGE: Sixteen.

TODD: Motherfuckers.

DAVE: How old is Sean Pablo?

SEAN PABLO MURPHY: Sixteen, just turned it.

TODD: He just turned sixteen? Fuck you, guys.

SAGE: Too bad whoever is listening to this interview, right now I’m giving you the middle finger. Fuck you, you suck. And have fun typing this in, I hope it takes three fucking hours.

TODD: Three hours? It’ll take three days.

SAGE: Three fucking hours per question.

TODD: Who’s talking to who? Roundtable Barbara Walters.

DAVE: 60 Minutes.

TODD: Let’s start back with the first video, your first skate video, so everybody can get an idea of the era that you came from.

SAGE: Well, actually the first skate video I can remember having in my house was the 411 tapes, I don’t know how my mom had them, but I had VHS tapes and I also had the Termite VHS. I remember it had a song, “The Termites Ate My House Up” (laughs) and Austyn Gillette ollied off a fucking roof.

TODD: You’re talking about that little kid shit. What was the other one? The one that Spanky skated for?

SAGE: Hawk?

TODD: Nah.

DAVE: Pharmacy?

TODD: Nah, it was the first little kid company, like Gromit?

SEAN: Grom King?

SAGE: Dude, I’m not even going to lie, I had a fucking Termite complete with
Grind King trucks on it.

TODD: Sick!

DAVE: What wheels?

SAGE: They were like blank wheels, the real slippery ones that was hard as ever.

DAVE: What’s your favorite thing about skateboarding right now? Like, why would you skateboard over doing anything else in the world?

SAGE: Because I’m doing it with the best people.

DAVE: Between you and Sean Pablo, which one of you is Mick Jagger and which one of you is Keith Richards?

SAGE: I’d say Sean is Mick Jagger.

SEAN: No way.

SAGE: He’s the pretty one, he has the moves.

DAVE: Who’s the handsomer of the two?

SAGE: Of us?

DAVE: Yeah.

SEAN: Oh c’mon, this dude.

SAGE: Are you fucking kidding? Dude, you get way more ladies than I do.

DAVE: What is the best potato chip on the market right now?

SAGE: I’m going to have to go with, probably, like a jalapeño or seasalt and vinegar Kettle Chips. That’s a hard one.

DAVE: Jalapeño cheddar took over. It’s like everything is jalapeño cheddar, that’s like the new shit.

SAGE: You ever had Cheetos like that? So fat-boy-fantasy.

DAVE: You ever put jalapeño cheddar Cheetos in a hamburger?

SAGE: No, but I know damn well you have put some nacho cheese on—

DAVE: EVERYTHING.

SAGE: Dude, you ever had those Fritos from the ice cream truck with the chili cheese?

DAVE: Chili cheese? That’s like some LA shit. You can’t get that in New York.

SAGE: Nah. Lets do it. Dave, play the record on your player backwards.

TODD: What’s your favorite record to listen to backwards?

SAGE: Probably “American Flag” by Cat Power, so I can figure out where the fuck those drums came from, ’cause they are backwards, so if you run it backwards, you’ll hear it normal.

TODD: The drums?

SAGE: Those are the Beastie Boys’ drums.

TODD: You guys ever skate with headphones on?

SEAN: Yeah, but when I’m by myself.

TODD: Only by yourself?

SEAN: Yeah, I’ll do it with other people, but it’s not really that good of a look.

SAGE: I’ve done it.

SEAN: But I think certain people can pull it off.

SAGE: Paulo Diaz can.

DAVE: Tony Alva.

SEAN: Oh, yeah. Muska.

SAGE: Muska got a fucking boom box.

SEAN: Tony Karr.

SAGE: Lutzka!

TODD: Greg Lutzka with the big white ones.

SAGE: Greg Lutzka, if you’re seeing this, fuck you!

TODD: He had the harshest headphones. You guys are talking about people who can pull it off?

SAGE & SEAN: Yeah.

TODD: (laughs) Ok.

SEAN: There’s not a lot.

TODD: When I heard you say Lutzka, I thought you were joking. He can’t pull it off.

SEAN: Muska can pull it.

DAVE: Anytime I see a skater with an iPhone and headphones, I’m like, dude, do you know your photo’s going to be taken? It’s like, dude, get it together, dog. Listen to your fucking rap song, get it in your head, and then go skating. You don’t need the actual thing in your face unless you’re Tony Alva and you got the headband.

SEAN: Sage, what trick are you psyched on right now? Like most psyched on. Like what trick are you trying to learn?

SAGE: Both. What type of question is that? If you’re not flipping in and you’re not flipping out, you’re not fucking doing it (laughs).

SEAN: Best trick wins.

DAVE: What color was the girl you made out with last?

SAGE: Her skin color?

DAVE: Yeah.

SAGE: She was white. Actually, she might be kinda Asian, yeah, I think she’s like, half Asian… Have you guys ever rolled weed in a dollar bill? Dude you gotta glue it, you can usually just take a piece of tape.

TODD: Have you done that?

DAVE: What’s your favorite skate team?

SAGE: Skate team?

DAVE: Or moment when all the dudes were on the same team.

SAGE: Right now or any time period?

SEAN: Any time period.

SAGE: It’ll be soon, that’s my opinion.

DAVE: Where were you the first time you saw Mouse?

SAGE: Hmm, I think downstairs in my grandparents’ house.

DAVE: On the Internet?

SAGE: Yeah, on the big desktop computer.

SEAN: That was before our time, dude.

SAGE: Yeah, so before our time.

DAVE: But like, that first time you saw it, what made you
wanna look for it?

SAGE: I don’t know, it was Girl and you just knew that Girl was the best.

SEAN: Like Goldfish, Mouse, Yeah Right!, you just got to see it for yourself.

SAGE: Yeah, when I put a Mark Gonzales sticker on my board. But the best one was when I dropped a match on his rug, ’cause I lit it and I was seeing how long it would light for and I just started staring at the flame and dropped it on his rug and he goes, “Anything in the fucking house but the rug.” He’s like, “Sage, I’m serious, anything in the fucking house but the rug.”

TODD: That was in LA?

SAGE: Yeah.

TODD: What type of rug was it?

SAGE: It was this really nice one that AVE gave to him. It’s a really nice rug, it’s a good one.

DAVE: Are we supposed to do some focused questions?

TODD: Other than skateboarding and fashion, do you guys go check out art while you’re in New York?

SEAN: You can get inspiration for skateboarding from all types of shit. From art, people on the street, you can take anything and bring it into your skateboarding.

SAGE: I feel like skating gets a little overwhelming sometimes, so you need something else to do and being in fucking boarding school I just need to play piano and make shit, look at the newspaper.

DAVE: How do you feel about being an African American artist?

SAGE: What the fuck? What the fuck I look like nigga? Does this look like a fuckin’ game?

DAVE: Being one of the only Asians not good at math, how the fuck did you not get into college? It’s like, I didn’t.

EVERYBODY: (laughs)

DAVE: I was talking to Alex Olson at the bar one night about a spaceship and low and behold, first thing in the morning, he has a meeting at Nike and he talks about my fucking idea. Nah, look, Star Wars? Nah. I really wasn’t tripping off that, Planet of the Apes? Yo, live nigga. But my spaceship skate park? Don’t fuck with my shit. Or rather, my ship, don’t fuck with my ship (laughs). Pun intended.