If you really like Twinkies...

Luckily they last forever, so you should be able to store enough to hold you over until someone else snags them. Too bad those 18k jobs won't be snapped up too. Gotta love the logic of unions sometimes.

(Note: It goes without saying that many of you are fond of ding dongs. Those are impacted too.)

Originally posted by TommylandNYC:*IF someone else snags them. Their sales have been plummeting for years. There's not a lot of interest in the brand.

I can't imagine there's a ton of interest in the "Hostess" brand itself, but many of the individual products within that (Wonder Bread, Twinkies, etc.) still have name recognition and value. It's almost certain that someone will at least grab some if the individual items on the cheap.

]Some company out there wants to add some of those products to their lineup for pennies on the dollar, you can bet on that.

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Originally posted by vabeachgirl:What about Ho Ho's?

Aren't you a veggie? I'm pretty sure that Hostess stuff has cow in it. At least they all used to...

If the President wasn't tied up with the Fiscal Cliff and states making their choices about state- or Federal-run healthplans, for sure, he'd step in and help out his supporters here with wise guidance and counsel between them and the company.

Originally posted by PrjMgr:If the President wasn't tied up with the Fiscal Cliff and states making their choices about state- or Federal-run healthplans, for sure, he'd step in and help out his supporters here with wise guidance and counsel between them and the company.

Originally posted by PrjMgr:If the President wasn't tied up with the Fiscal Cliff and states making their choices about state- or Federal-run healthplans, for sure, he'd step in and help out his supporters here with wise guidance and counsel between them and the company.

Originally posted by TommylandNYC:*IF someone else snags them. Their sales have been plummeting for years. There's not a lot of interest in the brand.

I can't imagine there's a ton of interest in the "Hostess" brand itself, but many of the individual products within that (Wonder Bread, Twinkies, etc.) still have name recognition and value. It's almost certain that someone will at least grab some if the individual items on the cheap.

]Some company out there wants to add some of those products to their lineup for pennies on the dollar, you can bet on that.

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Originally posted by vabeachgirl:What about Ho Ho's?

Aren't you a veggie? I'm pretty sure that Hostess stuff has cow in it. At least they all used to...

Yes I am. It was a joke.

Didn't Hostess buy Drake? Drake never used animal in their stuff. Not sure if it changed but I thought Hostess agreed to keep animal out of Drake as part of the purchase. I used to eat a Drake devil dog on occasion but haven't had one since before Hostess bought them.

Luckily they last forever, so you should be able to store enough to hold you over until someone else snags them. Too bad those 18k jobs won't be snapped up too. Gotta love the logic of unions sometimes.

(Note: It goes without saying that many of you are fond of ding dongs. Those are impacted too.)

So just when the company has to give them healthcare-the union holds firm and kills the company's will to go forward?

Or is this a management lead scam to create public uproar and force the union into a corner?

Luckily they last forever, so you should be able to store enough to hold you over until someone else snags them. Too bad those 18k jobs won't be snapped up too. Gotta love the logic of unions sometimes.

(Note: It goes without saying that many of you are fond of ding dongs. Those are impacted too.)

So just when the company has to give them healthcare-the union holds firm and kills the company's will to go forward?

Or is this a management lead scam to create public uproar and force the union into a corner?

Seems even the teamsters are blaming the union.Specifically, the Bakery, Confectionary, Tobacco and Grain Millers International Union (BCTGM), at least in part.From the teamster's statement:"The BCTGM chose a different path, as is their prerogative, to not substantively look for a solution or engage in the process."

The USWA up this way thought they were bad ass as well at one time until the company belly flopped and was bought by another. When the negotiations began the new company demanded concessions. The union refused and went on strike, the company brought in replacement workers. The union stayed on strike a full year, and eventually returned, accepting the concessions.

You can blame membership for not being smart enough to recognize when it's time to return to work. But the failure of a company lies squarely on management. There are other options.

The surcharge is imperfect when you consider you pay more per-mcnugget for 5 mcnuggets than 20. Something that will increase the liklihood that you will need medical attention (obesity, choking on a mcnugget)should be hit with a higher tax/surcharge/cover charge whatever they want to call it.

I haven't had twinkies in years. A friend of mine is really sad. She went out to buy a few boxes to stock up and can't find any. She also told me that E-Bay already had some go for 3K$!I'd normally laugh and not believe her but this is America...

Serious question: You make less than $20 an hour and your company asks you to take a pay cut. At the same time you see in a bankruptcy filing that the former CEO's salary went from $750K to $2.5 million and that other top executives doubled their pay. You've already taken a 25% pay cut and been informed that the union's contributions to your pension are being "borrowed" until the company is profitable again. The company "borrowed" $50 million last year and never paid it back despite $2.5 billion in products being sold. Now you are being told that they have no plans on paying it back and they are fighting to give out about $2 million in bonuses as the company goes under. How are you going to take the news? Are you going to "take one for the team"? Doubtful.

This isn't the union's fault. The company should have gone bankrupt years ago. They've been losing market share for years. Seriously, who even eats Twinkies and Ding Dongs anymore? Wonder bread isn't the staple it once was. Maybe if management focused on improving the company this wouldn't have happened. Have they even introduced a new product in the last 20 years?

Originally posted by NoRearView:Serious question: You make less than $20 an hour and your company asks you to take a pay cut. At the same time you see in a bankruptcy filing that the former CEO's salary went from $750K to $2.5 million and that other top executives doubled their pay. You've already taken a 25% pay cut and been informed that the union's contributions to your pension are being "borrowed" until the company is profitable again. The company "borrowed" $50 million last year and never paid it back despite $2.5 billion in products being sold. Now you are being told that they have no plans on paying it back and they are fighting to give out about $2 million in bonuses as the company goes under. How are you going to take the news? Are you going to "take one for the team"? Doubtful.

This isn't the union's fault. The company should have gone bankrupt years ago. They've been losing market share for years. Seriously, who even eats Twinkies and Ding Dongs anymore? Wonder bread isn't the staple it once was. Maybe if management focused on improving the company this wouldn't have happened. Have they even introduced a new product in the last 20 years?

I doubt anyone will argue that management failed, but part of the problem with profitability was the huge amounts they were paying in union pensions. Regardless, the fact remains that they did get in trouble, and in trying to keep the doors open the company went to them and advised that they could only stay alive if they made cuts. Instead of making a choice to keep their jobs, the unions chose to put their people completely out of work.

The pensions weren't an issue since the $3 per hour that goes into them haven't been given to the workers since 2011. The contributions were "borrowed" by the company. Under the bankruptcy agreement it was decided that the $50 million wasn't going to be paid back. That was decided by the court system. That had nothing to do with the negotiations. Yes, the company tried to keep its doors open, but why? An employee making over $40K with retirement and decent insurance 7 years ago is being asked to work the same job for $25K, high insurance premiums, and no retirement even though they've been contributing their money to it. And the deal they offered had yearly pay cuts. Would you seriously take a job knowing that every year you would earn less than the year before?

The management of this company was complete crap. They've had half a dozen CEOs in the last 10 years. One guy was asked to resign and then hired as a consultant. What dumb arse management team does that? The bakers' jobs isn't to put the company in a position to keep the company profitable. That's what management was for. What was their marketing strategy? Did they even advertise at all? I can't remember any recent ads. What new products have they come out with recently? Their market share has been falling for years. My kids are 5 and 2 and I don't think they've ever had a Hostess product. I think they came out with some products 60 years ago and then tried to ride their popularity forever.