The Origins cowl looks great, but, man, I really don't understand the recent fascination with putting a crapload of superfluous armor on Batman. I think it looks god awful. And it's even clunkier when they make him look like he weighs 300 pounds.

This is the perfect Batman costume, and his build is perfect here, the other pictures he looks too big.

Agreed. I love it. If those stupid bolts were removed from all over the suit (they're even on the legs), it'd be near perfect for me. Looks like the Batman from the comics, while still having a sense of realism in that Batman looks protected. He's obviously wearing armor, but it's not "too much".

I'll still stay that this suit is reminiscent of TDK suit. Segmented armor on the torso and legs, mesh areas of vulnerability, and the neck design is a little similar. The TDK suit is just much busier looking in the torso area for sure.

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this is the perfect batman costume, and his build is perfect here, the other pictures he looks too big.

perfect.

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Agreed. I love it. If those stupid bolts were removed from all over the suit (they're even on the legs), it'd be near perfect for me. Looks like the Batman from the comics, while still having a sense of realism in that Batman looks protected. He's obviously wearing armor, but it's not "too much".

I'll still stay that this suit is reminiscent of TDK suit. Segmented armor on the torso and legs, mesh areas of vulnerability, and the neck design is a little similar. The TDK suit is just much busier looking in the torso area for sure.

Agreed. I love it. If those stupid bolts were removed from all over the suit (they're even on the legs), it'd be near perfect for me. Looks like the Batman from the comics, while still having a sense of realism in that Batman looks protected. He's obviously wearing armor, but it's not "too much".

I'll still stay that this suit is reminiscent of TDK suit. Segmented armor on the torso and legs, mesh areas of vulnerability, and the neck design is a little similar. The TDK suit is just much busier looking in the torso area for sure.

The Arkham Origins is the Dark Knight suit done correctly, in my eyes.

Here's a question for everyone. When considering what you like/don't like about a batsuit design, how much of it is concern for practical matters (i.e "the batsuit needs to allow Batman to move well) vs. sartorial/aesthetic preferences?

Both, though most of the designs posted here are really just reference. Most of the designs are fairly similar in terms of what some of us want, just various interpretations. To be honest I hope whoever is the costume designer and FX house for the next film is open minded enough to think outside of the box when it comes to the actual construction of the suit.

I want to see Bruce pull the mask over his face like in BTAS so bad in live action.

I suppose Spiderman's mask has always been represented as merely lycra stretched over his head. It doesn't have an innate structure. Batman's is sculpted to some extent, and it tends to look very wrong if the correct placement of the ears, brow and nasal is disturbed.

Something like rubber or sculpted leather is probably inevitable in the cowl. That doesn't mean it has to be used throughout the suit, however.

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I don't get why people like Alex Ross's superheroes so much, especially his DC stuff are just BAD, not from an artistic point of vew, the man obviously has an immense talent and i love Kingdom Come but all his other stuff is basically a better tailored spandex with wrinkles and ****. WTF is this !! this is not badass this too golden age and to lame for today. Like Frank Miller said "I don't need to see sweat patches under Superman's arms" and I don't want to see wrinkles either !!

I don't mind Ross' designs, but I am in the minority in thinking that they don't work that well for comics. The 'foreground' characters look good, but the medium he uses is too light to render figures in the background satisfactorily, which makes detailed compositions outside of splash pages look messy. The best comicbook artists, in my opinion, are those that can use pencil (and have skilled inkers to maximise the effect) in the most sensitive way. Neil Adams is still unsurpassed, though Jim Lee has some of that magic. He just needs to tone down the crazy anatomy somewhat.

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surely they can apply the same "segmented pieces" design of the dark knight outfit to the cowl itself.. the top of the head and ears can be a slightly rigid shell and then the sides and the nose bridge can be other segmented pieces.

by breaking the "cowl" into segemented pieces you allow it to collapse and avoid the too rigid appearance of the earlier movies..

as far as the "white eyes" look it can easily be explained that the cowl has hi-tech clear lenses over it that when activated in the dark allow different vision modes (thermal/night) and in doing so creates that ominous effect that people enjoy when bats is in the shadows (dark knight got close but the pace of the movie didnt allow for proper batman stalking)..

The Alex Ross look has never been a favorite of mine. He's a great artist but his work is good example of why a direct translation of comic to film won't work for me. The look of his work is meant to instill a golden age nostalgia, which is fine but I think a more modern design for Batman is needed.

That being said I too would like to for them to get away from the rubber suits. I think a big part of that came from as another poster mentioned, trying to keep the cowl shape defined. If Batmans ears are just a little off centered, he's gonna look silly. I think Batman looks amazing at times in BB but the suit just looks like a rubber wetsuit, there's no reason he couldn't' have been wearing a heavy clothe armor and looked as intimidating. It's the scene with Lucius describing what the suit is that sells the audience on what the suit is and what it can take. There's no way anyone would see a still of that suit and think it's bullet proof. TDK on the other had might have corrected that a bit, it looks much more armored. But at the same time the suit is over designed which goes against the practical aesthetic the film has. It has unnecessary details and in the legs and illogical articulation points. The point is that Nolan simply liked that design and we're told it is bullet proof and gives Batman more mobility, so we believe it is bullet proof in the context of the film. The same would go for any other batsuit.

Also, I think white eyes might work for certain occasions like scaring criminals but for live action it's important to see the actors eyes. In the comics Batman's cowl and eye shape can change to show emotion, not so on film unless the director were to do something similar to Rorschach in Watchmen.

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