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PBR isn't associated with NASCAR in any kind of stereotype I'm aware of. Right now, I'd say it was more of a "hipster" choice of beer. I think you mean Bud Light, Natural Light, or one of the other major beer brands.

I think what I keep noticing each time I compare the new and old is how the skull and swords blended and flowed so well with the flag and the ship logo it was placed on. It had that 90's jagged look that a lot of other logos during that time featured, but it worked for the Bucs because it wasn't forced...the jagged lines of the old logo blended into the rugged identity of the Buccaneers.

Have you called the stadium yet? Haven't yet. I live a few blocks away and decided I would try that if I couldn't find them online. So far I only see some sort of deposit system on the A11 website. You'd think tickets would be available for an event that is only a little over 2 months away.

Okay, now I need vectors. I was building Bucs/Rays cornhole boards and luckily hadn't started painting or ordered the vinyl decals yet. Anyone find a large image of the logo that is flat and can be vectored?

Okay this is going to come off weird. But after seeing the logo on an actual helmet with lighting present...I like it MUCH more than I originally thought. With that said, I am starting to dislike the wordmark now...seems maybe a bit too plain? That previous screenshot here of the newscast kind of made it look really dated and vanilla.

I hate it. Takes away the grimness and raw attitude of the old skull and flag logo...to a more cartoony kid-friendly version. Also don't like the new shade of red. I do like the font choice, but I also noticed they have silver/grey as the outline and not pewter. Totally pointless update all for the sake of $$. I can't see any other logical reason.

Or...just change it to a different shade... *cough* I'm *hoping* this means pewter is staying but just getting lighter or darker...rather than disappearing or have "chrome" totally replace it. If pewter is changing, I'd suspect it goes lighter since it is pretty dark now. Again, I still say they have the perfect color palette as it is now and this reveal tonight is very likely to be a failure in most eyes.

Have to disagree with your assessment. Pewter is one of the core pieces of Tampa Bay's package and a very good one, too. Removing that from the helmet and pants is essentially removing it from the identity. Going to plain ole white from that is pretty Earth shattering, to me.

My first thought was "oh, April Fool's is around the corner. Funny." Then I realized Thursday was still in February...so my next thought was, "WHYYYYYYY??" The Bucs have the best modern look in the NFL and one of the best overall looks period. Why mess with it? Great color combo and a menacing logoset. Just play good football.

Last night's game was incredible from start to finish. Oklahoma looked like the best team in the nation for a majority of the game last night...on offense and defense. That hurry up offense was being ran to perfection and pairing that with the highly aggressive defensive scheme that the Sooners brought...I don't think Bama ever saw it coming. That was the most I have seen that Bama offense "shook" all season long. The overall difference was Oklahoma taking Bama out of their power game and removing their ability to control the clock. Once Alabama's backs were to the wall and the Sooners showed they weren't going to give up, I could see the writing on the wall. This is turning out to be my favorite bowl season ever, ironically. The matchups and turnouts have been nice for someone who looks forward to bowl season each year.

I will check this out later. Small town guy here myself- graduated with 50 people in my class, around 270 in the school total. We played 11 man football in the smallest public school classification- but we had a lot of 8-man team school in the area (all private schools). People never really took the private schools seriously in football...but from what I understand, that is a bit different up North.

Better, as far as recognizing the face area now- I can make out the parts that were fuzzy before. - In the mouth area, sharpen up the detail and add a top and bottom row of teeth...even if only one side has one tooth. I don't see a mouth with teeth yet. - The navy thickness around the nose, upper mouth, and jowls running together (while better) is still needing some improvement. Not sure whether you need to separate some of that or lose some of the navy. - I think you can add white to the other eye without ruining the raised cheek. I think you almost have to so the viewer knows what they are looking at. However, fixing this ^^^ may help you out where the eye isn't as important. - Spikes. Still needs spikes! Keep this one going- being from South Carolina, I have many friends that went to The Citadel and I also spent a few weeks there during a high school summer for something they have called "Boys State". Always felt that bulldog needed an update and I'm glad you are tackling it.