2ch has taken the unusual step of fighting back against the wicked Korean fifth column it believes is behind most of the ills of Japanese society by producing some English language propaganda of its own, targeted at American anime fans.

The document was mailed to at least one North American university anime club, and identifies itself as the handiwork of the Vippers – denizens of 2ch’s “VIP” board, which is known even on 2ch for its eccentric and activist character.

Aside from being a surprisingly thorough outline of some of the less crazed claims which 2ch endlessly fulminates over (and which were largely responsible for a series of large-scale anti-Fuji TV demonstrations in 2011), the document is presented in unusually good English (for 2ch at least) and appears to have been quite carefully prepared.

The veracity of the claims made is another matter – they range from the usual xenophobic delusions of foreign infiltration beloved of the Internet right, to some rather more well-founded concerns about the supposed efforts of Korean nationalists to stealthily advance their national interests in Japan and beyond, and the distressingly obvious lack of reliable politicians and media Japan is afflicted by.

Whatever the truth behind their claims, they do at least give English speakers a great deal of insight into the thinking current across much of the Japanese Internet.

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I want to say too with poor English. Some people says vippers are paranoia. If you see only those poor description papers, you may think so. I know your feelings. but, Vippers dont say without reasons or basises at all, from long contexts between japan and korea and current media situations. Important points are not in the drama, k-pop, anime… but ｍedia manipulation by other countries (and Pressure groups). By the way, Argument that Japanese are evil because of Xenofobia has no effect anymore, sorry:) I want to get along with your good manners foreigners. thx.

Hey, I am Japanese and come to read this post.
Those Japanese idiots who made those ads make use of this post, and brag that all foreigners who read this stand by us Japanese, so
I read comment section and laughed to death.
They are too biased to think that usually foreigners never care about other countries, especially those kinda racism things.

Ah, I said I am Japanese, and of course those paranoias must think I am Korean and pretend to be Japanese to dishonor them, “normal” Japanese. They seriously think all bad things come from Koreans and Chinese. I have never fucked girls because of Koreans, I am poor because of Chinese conspiracy, I am ugly because of those inferior Asian people,, etc.
Sadly enough paranoia never think they are paranoia and they think they are normal.

I can understand that most of the people here won’t understand this but even if I’m born in Belgium, I am Japanese and I am aware of the problems in Japan concerning Korea. I myself am quite a fan of BIGBANG and Korean products but it’s also true that Korea is slowly taking over Japan. Like famous people and even high people of the government are Korean.

The stuff with SK is just cultural cross-polinization, I think. Sure, there are some issues there which I’d like to investigate, But I just haven’t gotten around to it yet.

North Korea, on the other hand, is worrying – If Il’s kid is crazy enough, they could be a real problem. And I’m not just talking about culture war. It could force an end to the ‘Heiwa Boke’ that I wish could be spread across the world in some form.

Serious post: It seems that a lot of the complaints that the sane part of 2ch has with Koreans stems from the unfair privileges that Koreans have that native born Japanese don’t have. 2ch also seems to be angry because they think their complaints aren’t being taken seriously by their politicians who they believe are getting donations from pro-Korean groups.

I think that the govt should address the issue. If some of these privileges are causing ethnic tension then it’d be better to give those same privileges mentioned in the letter to Japanese people as well as Koreans and other immigrants.

I’m a black guy so I sort of sympathize with Korean immigrants. I don’t think it is their fault I just think that the Japanese govt isn’t handling the situation in a way that would keep both Japanese and Korean Immigrants fairly happy.

Also stop calling Japan racist, that in itself is racist. Most people parroting the “lawl japan is racist” sentiments have not lived in the country or come in contact with many Japanese people.

Well korea has been working for japan as inbetweeners. I’m not surprised if i saw an easter egg about korea. DR MOVIE is based in korea so there. I might agree about the fuji tv thing. They’ve been really biased in their programs to the point joking about the emperor. The only block thats clean is the noitamina block which is now being corrupted by companies and moe.

LOL, meanwhile Japan and China agree to trade without the US Dollar and in own currencies. 2ch would like to get US protection from North Korea and PRC, but their government is doing deals with China which are harming US.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16330574

I can understand their immigration problem cause we have a similar thing happening here in the U.S. Koreans are coming into their country because there are special circumstances they can take advantage of.

Also, those guys wearing the “atomic bomb shirts” are asking for trouble. Can you imagine if an American was walking around wearing that, or if someone was seen in Auschwitz pajamas?

Considering the obvious amount of time the author(s) of this document invested in its creation, I felt compelled to read it. However, that compulsion was defeated by the fact that I simply couldn’t be bothered.

Given their blatant distaste for Koreans, I wonder how the Vippers feel about seeing the ending credits of anime brimming with names of the Koreans who helped create it?

Both Korean internet denizens and 2ch’ers say this is happening. Although some of it is “xenophobic,” it’s well founded that some sort of “let’s make the Japs like us and hate themselves” movement is gaining steam, and is well known by Koreans.

They have the facts. What’s going on now is the equivalent of say, NBC taking down American programming to put up dubbed Mexican dramas, and preaching the greatness of Latino culture and saying “You’re going to all be speaking spanish in twenty years, get over it!” That shit would NOT pass in any other country but the spineless islands of Japan.

You’re still free to gather a lot of people who believe this and go walking around the tv station telling them you don’t want to see Mexican dramas. And what the tv station will do about it is up to them. Of course, assuming there’s no kind of physical violence involved.

Even if everything they’re saying about how anti-Japanese the Koreans are is true, the whole point is undercut by how xenophobic the Japanese themselves are. They regard everyone who isn’t Japanese as flat out subhuman. When was the last time you saw a Japanese media portrayal of an American or European that was not painfully ignorant at best and flat out racist at worst?

Look at the USA with their Jew-owned media, they are much worse off. The media of the USA spreads lies so that Americans go an invade other countries that are Anti-israel, and Americans end up getting killed and the American economy suffers from it.

Exactly. I don’t see them complaining about all the American pop culture they readily consume among others. I liked the part where he emphasized “Japanese are not racist..”. He should have added, “..except for the Koreans and Chinese.”

Artefact, if you’re reading this please remove the comment-voting system and only have an button reporting spam (that would be monitored of course). This way you keep out all the cheerleading zombies and trolls from censoring comments.

Do we have a surge of 2channers here or something? More and more articles that criticizes Japan are being bombarded with high strung defensive comments in slew of anything that does criticize Japan one way or another. Add to the very sporadic votes going up and down…Some of you people really need to stop being in denial and maybe get out more.

Did they even proof-read what they blab about or do they believe they are so “righteous” in every way possible that they couldnt even bring themselves the consider the probability of being ever slightly wrong in so many different aspects???

It’s (most probably) true they have an issue about koreans in media, but most 2ch and especially the neto-yu are becoming too paranoid to take righteous action, they now have become a censoring force rather than a free-speech one.

They need to clean corruption in japanese government and civil structure first, then remove biasing of japanese against foreigners if they want any help from overseas. Then will be when saying “we japanese are not racist” will be taken more seriously

I didn’t really read past 1st page… but really trying to take over ? seriously ? their publishers are at fault, for ignoring western markets, heck even now there are games with crappy dubbing and no japanese voices. Not to mention late releases etc.

Then theres repeatability of manga/anime/games whatever.. which results in more manhwa getting scanslated.

You can add all their xenophobic crap and superiority complex. Decline in culture, fucked up politics…

Superiority complex and xenophobia seems to be the roots of their problems. They look down on other cultures they don’t improve, they don’t learn from other cultures, they just copy themselves and repeat same old mistakes..
Good example of this idiocy at work would be console game controls.
Resident Evil ? Monster Hunter ? Any other country would consider this controls to be bad design, but then again japanese devs are so full of themselves they don’t play non japanese games.

Korea doesn’t need to do anything, japanese are destroying themselves.

no, they have a point in several areas… but there are allot of dilutions too.

japan is to sensitive about nuke anything, so disregard EVERY comment they ever make about that. it would like ameriaca hating japan and germany irrationally because of shit that happened over 70~ years ago

japan is also to focuses on that korea as a government is putting these people in place, and not just these people getting there on their own and wanting a more pro korea attitude than fuck korea and fuck them hard that the internet wants.

all mass media is corrupt, in america was sopa even fucking covered by ANYONE out side of a “this gets rid of piracy google, what the fuck are you against it for” that was on the today show.

now about how easy it is for imagrants to take advantage of the system… we have that in america too. people come for collage, can get grants easily and fuck off back to their country after collage.

japanese politics is also a very corrupt area, as is the poliece, and the education is very retarded in my opinion too, not the content, but the people.

japan, you have more problems than what koreans are doing, fix those first.

There’s also the thing were stupid people breed, which would be fine if it was possible to educate children from poor parents who don’t know the first things about upbringing. Which is of course impossible. Due to various circumstances.

Besides, did memorizing stuff ever made someone smarter? is exactly what is wrong with school.

I loled so hard who’s saying korean shit is popular in Japan. Maybe they have never been in Japan and don’t know about Dentsu system.I have kinda disappointed at the residents here. Becouse it seems there’re only weeaboo or ignorant geeks.

So essentially – the evil south-koreans who hate Japan because of her past war-crimes have taken over the Japanese media and are slowly taking over Japanese society … I am profusely reminded of Hitler’s views on Judaism.

WoWWW… the conspiracy theory of the fat dude in 9 shirt made me laugh.
but anyways you can tell >A LOT< of thought and time went into writing this and finding the examples… and some of it makes sense, but you know what? anything can make sense if you reason enough… thats what you call a crazy person. Crazy pyscho usually aren't retarded idiots, they are crazy because they reason themselves to believe something and can't see that twist the truth or see reality as most others see it which is what makes them crazy.

Yeah seriously WTF 2ch, at this rate you might even be worse than America at thinking how you guys are the whole world or something.

Fucking hell, give it a fucking rest and go do something more important for yourselves and your country. The reason why your society is getting worse is yourselves, especially if all you guys do is bitch about meaningless things.

it really isn’t racism. more like nationalism maybe? i don’t know. but in order for it to be racism, koreans and japanese have to be of different race, which they are not. in any case, japan does that kind of crap all the time. it’s just more apparent with koreans and chinese because these two countries actually possess ability to be competitive against japan. in either case, the more they are like that, the less likely others are willing to do business with them, and the bigger handicap they will have against korea and china.

The hell you talking about? Have you not noticed that anything that so much criticize Japan is downvoted to oblivion? It’s more like SanCom is being overun by 2ch tards that have nothing better to do than to defend Japan every second.

At some stage in history between Japan, Korea and China, they have been copying eachother or ‘adapting’ to each others’ cultures. Go read any reputable book on Asian art history and you can see how each cultures directly influenced eachother.

Those three big modern nations may as well be sibling nations in historical perspective. At least if we’re talking the last 1000 years.

All this xenophobia is ridiculous. That letter just exploding the xenophobia which is ALREADY out there is just deplorable. Instead of worrying and accusing, how about just letting things be and not make a big drama out of everything? You know an argument falls apart when they start with “IT IS RUINING OUT NATION”. No it’s not.

You are right, Japanese culture is very original. Where else can you find women having sex with cephalopods, half-naked men carrying giant dildos in festivals, fat men in thongs hugging each other, whale and dolphin BBQ, and drawn kiddie porn in 7-11’s?

I think you’re the one that needs to brush up on history. Japan did nothing but steal and plagerize after WWII up to the early to mid 80’s. Why do you think it was common in American media to make fun of Japanese made products back then?

Smart or not they did copy/steal. That’s the focus here. Not whether they was allowed to or not, not that I don’t understand the sentiment. I’m just saying that the Japanese aren’t as original as some of the commenters are making them out to be. It’s only since the 90’s onwards did they really kick off with their tech and creative prowess after improving on their cheap copies. It just seems that some people believe Japan somehow magically became how they are today from absolutely nothing.

I’d have to agree with you that copyright of today is definitely one of the biggest obstacles for innovation and creativity. History has taught us copying is one of the biggest things that facilitate creativity through inspiration. Of course not everything is developed further from copies, far from it. But to deny that copying and imitations hasn’t brought forth great things at all is ignorant and arrogant.

Lol what difference does that make? You’ve just gone ahead and proved that Japanese wasn’t so original after WWII, therefore concluding that the Japanese aren’t so original to everyone else. If you were referring about 13th Century and before you need to state it…or do you wish me to quote you word for word? Not only do you need to brush up on history, you need to bursh up on your literacy and comprehension skills.

You also picked one of the worse era’s for Japanese being original…13th Century Japan was still taking ideas from China. In arts, religion and literacy. They may have branched into their own style, but if you think they did all that from nothing you are sorely mistaken.

They actually did it even before that… japan only opened it’s borders in 1800’s, and at the time the country was still quite underdeveloped. But during the WWI it already beat the russian eastern navy and took over the russian eastern coast and as we all know it posed a quite a force during WWII…

The technological advancement was all because they sent people to styudy(or copy) the technology around the world. At the time they were even encouraged and allowed to do so! I’d say they were pretty damn smart at the time! Not to mention I consider the present copyright to be one of the biggest blockers in technological advancement in the near future…

@20:38
well, you need a lesson in common sense. How the hell are others supposed to know that you were refering to the 13th century? You’re calling others dumb for not understanding that you were refering to the 13th century?

Are you stupid?? dude im korean and if ANYONE is dumb enough to say “sumo” or whatevs originated from korea, they get outrageously dissed for being an ignorant cunt

We have our own versions of samurai and shit why would we want to adapt to japan when we have our own unique things??? It didnt originate from anywhere, Every country developes their own versions with their culture

The Korean argument isn’t that Chinese didn’t create that. The argument is that their ancient history (pretty much near pre-history) originates somewhere in China and Korea. Neither here nor there. Everybody making a fuss about nothing as usual.

That’ll probably happen if you confront people about stuff they likely don’t know about. I just fail to see the point in arguing too seriously with people who will undoubtedly put up a defense.

Most evenheaded, learned peoples probably know the truth. But don’t bring in Takeshima/Dokdo nonsense into it. Otherwise, people generally have a good idea that these cultures intertwine. Not that they’re separate entirely.

@Shippoyasha That’s where you’re wrong. I’ve spoken with so many nutty Koreans who constantly argue with me about Korea having no connections with China whatsoever and constantly denying any influence from China AND Japan.

Of course i don’t, but he said their ENTIRE culture was derived from Tang Dynasty China, which is complete bullshit. They have plenty of unique, ORIGINAL culture that was developed by themselves and they also have some that came from China as well, but not ALL.

Uhhh those Confucian values that you claim have been rejected by Japanese sure do show up in basically the entire social structure of Japanese society. You either might want to re-learn what those values are or read a book about Japanese culture.

@02:10
The Opium War fucked them up real good. Plus, Mao did a through job of destrying many ancient Chinese culture including millions of books and art pieces in the name of communism. You really can’t compare modern day China with the Ancient times.

Japanese pop culture has always put up lingo that had to do with sexuality, war and even the nukes. It’s nothing special or meaningful. People just wear a ton of Engrish material and do not know or do not care about the ‘message’ of it all.

Japanese people who diss Japanese-speaking Koreans should kill themselves. I mean, come on. According to my personal experience, Koreans have a better insight and respect of Japanese culture than Japanese.

lol but aren’t the Japanese studios themselves the ones outsourcing the work? It’s not like Koreans come and just steal the storyboards and start animating against Japanese wishes, so the Japanese using that as a counterargument is silly XD

Even the much worshiped anime like Death Note was animated in part by Korean workforce as well (Madhouse studios works a lot with Korean animators).

Also, maybe those racist idiots should worry that their beloved shows are being worked on by Filipinos and Vietnamese nowadays as well. I bet they hate those nationalists more than Koreans. I heard a lot of nasty racially motivated violence in regard to Filipinos and Vietnamese in the past.

You don’t realize the true diabolic cleverness of the evil Koreans. They send sexy underage Korean schoolgirls to seduce Japanese executives and snap embarrassing pictures of them engaging in hot sex. They use these pictures to blackmail the executives to ship animation work to Korea. The Koreans then put stupid jokes in the anime and turn out crap like Milky Holmes. Once the Japanese anime industry is destroyed the Koreans will introduce substandard Chinese anime to Japan and the West. This is dangerous because Chinese anime tends to blow up.

Why are the Japanese worried about the Koreans “corrupting” them when their own material is littered with English?

So you can see a little bit of Korean here and there, boo-hoo.

But then there’s blatantly English words in Japanese music, Japanese animation, Japanese movies, Japanese television, and by extension, everyday Japanese conversation. And of course, let’s not forget their hilarious attempts at English on their products.

Maybe they’re angry that we’ve been saying Japanese culture is corrupting the West? With their Pokemon, Digimon and Yu-Gi-Oh’s. Y’know? Kids would be so traumatized to know what a riceball is, that’s why we had to protect our children and call it a doughnut instead.

Their anime’s are so accurate and informative! You’d think it’s propaganda. They would have us believe that Japan only comprise of 10 year old magical girls and monsters sporting tentacles. I mean who knew that Japanese people had naturally green, blue, pink, orange and white hair with big wide eyes that looked famililarly like Westerners. Thanks to their efforts I now know that all Chinese people say -Aru at the end of sentences and that Black people are all muscle bound gangsters that talk rap. They’ve been so culturally informative too! I’m so impressed by their swordsmanship. To think a samurai sword can cut clean through chainmail and steel plated armor in one swipe and sometimes slicing up Claymores and Greatswords with ease! Samurai’s are the best swordsman ever! Katana’s can never be beaten!

@Shippoyasha Idunno. I was using Jap as an acronym myself until my Japanese teacher lectured me about its negative connotations. So the class is made is to use JPS instead when referring to Japan rather than JAP. Just saying that Western usage of the word Jap is quite offensive, though maybe not so much in your own circle.

Despite the enormous influence Tang and Song dynasties had on the Japanese upper class culture, It’s physically impossible for “all” to be derived from Tang dynasty since, well, Japan is not part of Chinese culture. If you actually look into the culture of the rural, lower class people you will see something very different from that of China.

There’s a minor theory out there by some ppl who believe Japan developed without any outside influence and that they developed their written language, culture, technology by themselves until the Dutch came. Total bullshit. I forgot what they called this theory

@anon 19:54
If you didn’t know, schoolgirls and housewives are just as much part of the population as any other. So what if “it’s mainly just schoolgirls and housewives”? Aren’t they human? aren’t they part of the Japanese population? Your argument is invalid

They still happen. Just because this site hasn’t put some up in a while, and is now declaring how racists every 2ch goer is (again) Doesn’t mean it’s true.
I always shudder at the thought of people treating this site as a news site, as opposed to a heavily opinionated blog.
Come for the laughs, the pretty pictures, but not news.

Of course, completely reproducing the letter+material here and thus exposing it to a significant part of foreign (as in non-Japanese) otakudom was in no way an intentional act of actively supporting the anti-Korean cause…

Not that I disapprove, they have every right to make their fears heard, however paranoid they may be.

Contrary to popular belief, a healthy distrust of foreign influence can protect a nation.

Look at America. You’ve been covertly subverted by the Jews who control all your media AND all your money. You have dual-citizen Israelis in high ranking government positions making you fight wars for Israel. This same criticism can be leveled at Europe except they don’t fight as many wars as America does.

Last I remember people being greedy rich monopolists were being greedy rich monopolists regardless of ethnicity or race. Or are you that blind that we send troops over to multiple countries in name of “interventions” and “terrorists” when in fact we do so because we love playing divide and conquer through world policing?

To be fair, when I was a child I tought must anime/movies were brazilian. Then I got a bit older and I would thing only *some* of them were brazilian. When I was like, eleven, I would tell my mom that “this is brazilian” and, since she ddidn’t care at all, she would agree with me.

How old your cousin? It’s probably because they were dubbed for broadcasting in Korean TV networks. Anyone these days old enough to use Internet can read about it so I’m going to guess he’s still a kid.

Likewise, there are people/kids in Japan thinking Kimchi (Japanese says Kimuchi) is Japanese food.

Yet another pointless topic. Japanese copy chinese, korean copies chinese, Chinese copied their ancestors and so fort. Who gives a fuck. What i think people should be so selfcentered all the time. I could say everyone copies one another in order of better lifes. That’s just how it goes.

There’s nothing wrong with the derivation of one’s culture to another. The problem with some Koreans is that they envy Japan for developing what Japan have derived from them (Long ago~ lol!) Japanese culture is just so unique that I can’t taste Kimchi on it! 😛

Anime, JAV, Visual Novels, Manga, these are purely Japanese Culture, putting some Korean taste into it makes it taste like shit!w

I think the racism between China, Japan and North and South Korea is getting ridiculous. Its like children fighting over toys claiming that its all theirs. Little do they know, not a single fuck is given throughout the rest of the world

Why’d it have to be grainy images? Why not an HTML page?
What surprised me was that there are actually some good points between the paranoia. Does a broken clock still tell the right time twice a day? Or are we dozing sheeple, waiting to be led to the Korean slaughterhouse? You decide!

This is similar from other country in SE Asia region, Indonesia and Malaysia. At that time, Malaysia is claiming some islands and which is owned by Indonesia. But I heard that Malaysia is stopping their claiming now.

By god, I think they’re on to something! Damn those evil Koreans trying to take over Japanese society. And all those koreans give fake japanese names a different one every time to the police. No wonder all the pimps of school girls in Japan are actually koreans lol.

What? Cultured can’t be copied, it can only be diffused. So Did both Japan and Korea and some other countries copy Chinese culture?

Did America copy Europeans culture?

Absolutely not, there’s no such thing as “stealing” or “Copying” cultures, only basing upon some culture and gain by diffusion. Hell, Japan did it a lot from Chinese and when it was industrializing, from Europe.

More like they see them as the Jews of Japan. With the bawwing over them taking over the media etc.

These guys should instead go out and work for money then buy shares in the companies if they’re so bothered. Or get a job and work their own way to the top! Spending hours upon hours to “research” this panicky bullshit with the excuse of nationalism is just moronic.

It is well known that korean are not trusted. Just see any korean and they will let you know, must watch for idiot korean everywhere and be careful.

Just see their North Korea, whole world hate them even America and know how they are. South is the same even worse except they have lied and made them look like normal country… remember must not trust korean.

Wow, man, I’m getting the hell out of dodge. This place is filled with Korean and Chinese. I have nothing against you, but it’s unbecoming of you when you come out of the wood-works to defend yourselves on an English website aimed at people who come to read articles about Japanese culture.

Nope, you’re dead wrong about that, pal.
They do outsource to South Korea, but the majority isn’t from there. They outsource evenly to other places in Asia such as Taiwan, Vietnam, and Singapore as well. But there are a LOT of Animation studios who don’t outsource, such as UFOtable, and Shaft. It’s not like they outsource because they want too, it’s because of the bad economy that plenty of the Japanese Animators aren’t payed enough, thus no work, which leads to outsourcing.

Honestly though this is one of the most thought out and prepared conspiracy theories I’ve seen til this late. However, it’s still as weak if not weaker than others. Man if I go around looking at every detail of everything I’m sure I’m bound to mix and match a lot of shit like this.

Yeah i still like the 911 was a government set up and the Jews and the Free Masons control the world’s economy (and was blamed for 911) conspiracy better. At least those implications are world changing, all this says is that “we are not getting enough air time in Fuji TV”

The same reason why you refuse to move out and instead rebuild every time the tornado destroys your trailer park.

Also i never got the insulting part of the term “gook” In korean, countries are are usually designed in 2 character system such as Han Gook (korean), Zhoong Gook (china), Mii Gook (America). By that definition, then all Americans are Gooks as well