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Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Ilum revamp is coming February/March. Makeb is coming very soon. As long as they bring new content every 6-8 weeks as they promise, the population will be steady. SSSP though if done right will bring tons of people. They work on game optimization, sometimes with mix results, but there is steady improvement imo.

Next few weeks should bring some more light about Ilum and Makeb.

Any news on what the revamp will actually do? I'm not a big SWTOR fan, but I would probably still be playing it if ILLUM wasnt such a complete failure.

"In the immediate future, we have this one, and then we’ve got another one that is actually going to be – so we’re going to have, what we want to do, is in January, what we’re targeting to do, this may or may not happen, so you can’t hold me to it. But what we’re targeting to do, is have a fun anniversary to the Ilum shenanigans that happened. An alien race might invade, and they might crash into Ilum and there might be some new activities that happen on the planet." ~Gabe Amatangelo

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Originally posted by Sevenstar61

I agree that the space missions minigame (I treat is as minigame) SWTOR has right now attract small percent of players. They posted lately on web the comparative usage of different aspects of game by players and space missions are like 2 to 3%.

SSSP if done right would definitely change this graph

Jebus.

I can see why some call SWTOR a corridor game.

Way too many people stuck on fleet. Then again maybe all games are like this. It would be interesting to see a graph like this for other games as well.

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Originally posted by Vunak23

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Ilum revamp is coming February/March. Makeb is coming very soon. As long as they bring new content every 6-8 weeks as they promise, the population will be steady. SSSP though if done right will bring tons of people. They work on game optimization, sometimes with mix results, but there is steady improvement imo.

Next few weeks should bring some more light about Ilum and Makeb.

Any news on what the revamp will actually do? I'm not a big SWTOR fan, but I would probably still be playing it if ILLUM wasnt such a complete failure.

Well. Initially theye were supposed to eventually make all those abandoned vehicles strewn about interactive / playable.

Apparently that idea got scrapped.

In the new interview they mention something about new buildings in Ilum. Not very illuminating, but that's all I got.

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I kind of pride myself on maintaining a gaming rig that is far above average, I currently run Windows 7, 64bit, with an i7 3.4 GHZ CPU, 8GIGs of memory, a solid state drive and a Nvidia 680GTX video card.

Logging into the main space hub on this game reduces my rig to a slide show with more than 20 people in one place, people not even casting spells, just standng there by the PvP vendors. There is not a single multiplayer game out there that I can find that performs worse this SWTOR. Their perfomance problems are far from solved. I expected some optimizations with F2P but they have made no measurable improvements in this area. Just lip service in their patch notes.

I can pull down 40 to 50 FPS in any MMO with 40 plus players on screen all CASTING and attacking SWTOR? Your luckly if you get 15 FPS with more than 20 players in combat.

SWTORs problem is with players not the enviornment, I can get 80 to 100FPS in their game when no one is around even in highly detailed environments, start adding players and the FPS start slowing to a crawl, get over 20 players on screen in combat and its over.

My point is they can through as many new things at this game they want , but it will never be a massive mulitplayer game that plays worth a shit, so i wrote it off long ago.

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Originally posted by snapfusion

I kind of pride myself on maintaining a gaming rig that is far above average, I currently run Windows 7, 64bit, with an i7 3.4 GHZ CPU, 8GIGs of memory, a solid state drive and a Nvidia 680GTX video card.

Logging into the main space hub on this game reduces my rig to a slide show with more than 20 people in one place, people not even casting spells, just standng there by the PvP vendors. There is not a single multiplayer game out there that I can find that performs worse this SWTOR. Their perfomance problems are far from solved. I expected some optimizations with F2P but they have made no measurable improvements in this area. Just lip service in their patch notes.

I can pull down 40 to 50 FPS in any MMO with 40 plus players on screen all CASTING and attacking SWTOR? Your luckly if you get 15 FPS with more than 20 players in combat.

SWTORs problem is with players not the enviornment, I can get 80 to 100FPS in their game when no one is around even in highly detailed environments, start adding players and the FPS start slowing to a crawl, get over 20 players on screen in combat and its over.

My point is they can through as many new things at this game they want , but it will never be a massive mulitplayer game that plays worth a shit, so i wrote it off long ago.

It's pretty fucking bizzare that they had all that money and skimped on the foundation.

It actually boggles the mind.

So many design work-arounds. So many "policies". All trying to polish a turd.

The corporate descion making process that led to this self-inflicted crisis and the subsequent spin fascinates me.

The only thing more disturbing is the vocal minority who in essence keep asking, "ATM fees?, keep raising them! ATMs are so cool looking and convenient!"

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Originally posted by zomard100SWTOR doesen't need to be saved, game is full with players. But i guess you never tried to play this game :)

the game is full of free players that are potential subscribers. If they dont "save" the game those potential subscribers will go somewhere else instead. So yeah, i think the Sssp would play an important role in getting Swtor on its feet, but like someone said, thats not coming any time soon. Lots of improvement needs to be done and i noticed they are doing just that. kind of slowly but they are.

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Originally posted by snapfusion

I kind of pride myself on maintaining a gaming rig that is far above average, I currently run Windows 7, 64bit, with an i7 3.4 GHZ CPU, 8GIGs of memory, a solid state drive and a Nvidia 680GTX video card.

Logging into the main space hub on this game reduces my rig to a slide show with more than 20 people in one place, people not even casting spells, just standng there by the PvP vendors. There is not a single multiplayer game out there that I can find that performs worse this SWTOR. Their perfomance problems are far from solved. I expected some optimizations with F2P but they have made no measurable improvements in this area. Just lip service in their patch notes.

I can pull down 40 to 50 FPS in any MMO with 40 plus players on screen all CASTING and attacking SWTOR? Your luckly if you get 15 FPS with more than 20 players in combat.

SWTORs problem is with players not the enviornment, I can get 80 to 100FPS in their game when no one is around even in highly detailed environments, start adding players and the FPS start slowing to a crawl, get over 20 players on screen in combat and its over.

My point is they can through as many new things at this game they want , but it will never be a massive mulitplayer game that plays worth a shit, so i wrote it off long ago.

???? I have a computer not nearly as good as yours...and I have no problems. Weird! Update those drivers (or stop using beta ones! :P)

As to SSSP. If it's like Xwing vs Tie or SWG space (huge open areas), yes. People would see the star wars in that and rush back.

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Some of you guys make me laugh. I've gone through your post history and how you've always said game A sucks or that game B sucks.

Now that this game has gone F2P and you don't have to pay for it, now you guys go ahead and say "I'm going to watch for future content."

My mind on all this: as long as you have to pay for that new content will I ever even considering downloading this game again. This game has caved to the poor people and frankly can't help but think now if it'll survive long term.

For those that may say I'm trolling against the poor and how the poor can't game...actually they can. The offical cash needed to be above poverty level is $15,130 made yearly (well plus one.)

Me, I'm going to be definitely checking it out as I've always looked for an excuse to sub back.

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Some of you guys make me laugh. I've gone through your post history and how you've always said game A sucks or that game B sucks.

Now that this game has gone F2P and you don't have to pay for it, now you guys go ahead and say "I'm going to watch for future content."

My mind on all this: as long as you have to pay for that new content will I ever even considering downloading this game again. This game has caved to the poor people and frankly can't help but think now if it'll survive long term.

For those that may say I'm trolling against the poor and how the poor can't game...actually they can. The offical cash needed to be above poverty level is $15,130 made yearly (well plus one.)

Me, I'm going to be definitely checking it out as I've always looked for an excuse to sub back.

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Some of you guys make me laugh. I've gone through your post history and how you've always said game A sucks or that game B sucks.

Now that this game has gone F2P and you don't have to pay for it, now you guys go ahead and say "I'm going to watch for future content."

My mind on all this: as long as you have to pay for that new content will I ever even considering downloading this game again. This game has caved to the poor people and frankly can't help but think now if it'll survive long term.

For those that may say I'm trolling against the poor and how the poor can't game...actually they can. The offical cash needed to be above poverty level is $15,130 made yearly (well plus one.)

Me, I'm going to be definitely checking it out as I've always looked for an excuse to sub back.

Well you dont have to check in for long long time or anytime soon.

Youre clear for few years :)

I hope not. For me end game is running various instanced pvp/scenarios. I love it. The more faces I can smash and dogs I can put down the better the day turned out. =]

For me, to know there's some dude playing the other dude I'm fighting against and who is now weeping and sobbing because I just killed him...is intoxicating.

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Everyone always complaining about bugs. I and my wife have been playing since headstart and dont' see a fraction of the bugs other people complain are always there. People in my guild never complain about bugs. Probably just your rigs or people making stuff up to comtinue and try and trash the game.

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Originally posted by Swanea

Originally posted by snapfusion

I kind of pride myself on maintaining a gaming rig that is far above average, I currently run Windows 7, 64bit, with an i7 3.4 GHZ CPU, 8GIGs of memory, a solid state drive and a Nvidia 680GTX video card.

Logging into the main space hub on this game reduces my rig to a slide show with more than 20 people in one place, people not even casting spells, just standng there by the PvP vendors. There is not a single multiplayer game out there that I can find that performs worse this SWTOR. Their perfomance problems are far from solved. I expected some optimizations with F2P but they have made no measurable improvements in this area. Just lip service in their patch notes.

I can pull down 40 to 50 FPS in any MMO with 40 plus players on screen all CASTING and attacking SWTOR? Your luckly if you get 15 FPS with more than 20 players in combat.

SWTORs problem is with players not the enviornment, I can get 80 to 100FPS in their game when no one is around even in highly detailed environments, start adding players and the FPS start slowing to a crawl, get over 20 players on screen in combat and its over.

My point is they can through as many new things at this game they want , but it will never be a massive mulitplayer game that plays worth a shit, so i wrote it off long ago.

???? I have a computer not nearly as good as yours...and I have no problems. Weird! Update those drivers (or stop using beta ones! :P)

As to SSSP. If it's like Xwing vs Tie or SWG space (huge open areas), yes. People would see the star wars in that and rush back.

Im not holding my breath ;\.

I have a system similar to the one posted in this. I don't have these sort of performance issues.

I'd check drivers, etc as the person above mentioned. You should be getting better from a system like that.

If all else fails, reimage your PC because there is something on your end causing this.

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Originally posted by nate1980

I wish they'd just focus on their strengths. We all know what Bioware is good for and that's story-based content with alignment choices and voice overs. I wish they'd add new chapters to each class story, and add more Flashpoints akin to Esselles and Black Talon (ie. heavily storied/cutscenes with conversation choices).

If they don't, then I'll be gone once again once I finish the class stories.

Can I have some of what your smoking? The over-emphasis on story to the point of letting everything else suffer is part of the reason why so many people left the game. The last thing it needs now is to emphasize story even more. Don't get me wrong they need to continue the stories, but for the time being the single player aspect of the game is strong enough. Let them try to get the MMO part of it working better so that maybe people will start staying around after they finish the story.

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I keep hearing the same old lame excuse. 1.4 will save the game, 1.5 will save the game, 1.6 will save the game, free to play will save the game.

How many of the latest update will save the game will their be? Nothing can save the game except those who sub up. The real question is, does the game need saved, I don't think it does. It will remain a niche game to a certain decicated hard core players.