No jdaddy your wrong with that one there is plenty of bend left to hold a fish. I don't like taking it any shorter. Either way will work. Its basically a preference. I'm sure the ones you tie shorter catch fish.

I don't care for the general patterns you tie, but I like the wire-in-tube's look, and I'm not sure if I've ever bothered to notice it before. Probably because regardless of effectiveness, these sorts of flies offend my tender sensativities.

I have never lost a fish with them tied like this. That's just an excuse for guys not being able to control their fish

You use those little flies for steelhead,tarpon,salmon and other"Hard to control" fish found in Pennsylvania waters?Impressive-but wouldn't a nymph have to rigor mortis to be in that position-just asking.