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In almost everyone else's world he's rated 73 spots too high. I heard he's higher than Tony Romo, and if that's the case, I just have to laugh at this list._________________#FireDeanPees...and Chris Hewitt....and Matt Weiss

In almost everyone else's world he's rated 73 spots too high. I heard he's higher than Tony Romo, and if that's the case, I just have to laugh at this list.

Now your disrespecting Joe Flacco, who do you have a problem with more Cameron or Flacco? The players have spoken, the Ravens clearly support him (they didn't go after Peyton Manning). He outplayed Tom Brady in the AFC Title game, people need to leave this guy alone, it's getting ridiculous now. I get that he hasn't won a Superbowl but he deserves a little bit of a break, I think he's the most hated QB in the league now, I honestly think the Flacco haters would celebrate if Joe dies which would be very sick.

In almost everyone else's world he's rated 73 spots too high. I heard he's higher than Tony Romo, and if that's the case, I just have to laugh at this list.

Now your disrespecting Joe Flacco, who do you have a problem with more Cameron or Flacco? The players have spoken, the Ravens clearly support him (they didn't go after Peyton Manning). He outplayed Tom Brady in the AFC Title game, people need to leave this guy alone, it's getting ridiculous now. I get that he hasn't won a Superbowl but he deserves a little bit of a break, I think he's the most hated QB in the league now, I honestly think the Flacco haters would celebrate if Joe dies which would be very sick.

Flacco is NOT that good.

I have a problem with Cam Cameron more than Flacco.

Oh, he outplayed Brady?! Let's crown him the GOAT, because clearly QB's don't have off-games when they play against one of the best defenses in the NFL while the opposing QB is playing against a cupcake defense.

And no, I wouldn't celebrate if Joe dies, he's just not that good right now._________________#FireDeanPees...and Chris Hewitt....and Matt Weiss

In almost everyone else's world he's rated 73 spots too high. I heard he's higher than Tony Romo, and if that's the case, I just have to laugh at this list.

Now your disrespecting Joe Flacco, who do you have a problem with more Cameron or Flacco? The players have spoken, the Ravens clearly support him (they didn't go after Peyton Manning). He outplayed Tom Brady in the AFC Title game, people need to leave this guy alone, it's getting ridiculous now. I get that he hasn't won a Superbowl but he deserves a little bit of a break, I think he's the most hated QB in the league now, I honestly think the Flacco haters would celebrate if Joe dies which would be very sick.

Flacco is NOT that good.

I have a problem with Cam Cameron more than Flacco.

Oh, he outplayed Brady?! Let's crown him the GOAT, because clearly QB's don't have off-games when they play against one of the best defenses in the NFL while the opposing QB is playing against a cupcake defense.

And no, I wouldn't celebrate if Joe dies, he's just not that good right now.

He is a good QB, stop treating him like he's the worst QB ever. I'm not crowning him the GOAT I just want you and others to respect him, people can't even respect him which is sad.

In almost everyone else's world he's rated 73 spots too high. I heard he's higher than Tony Romo, and if that's the case, I just have to laugh at this list.

Now your disrespecting Joe Flacco, who do you have a problem with more Cameron or Flacco? The players have spoken, the Ravens clearly support him (they didn't go after Peyton Manning). He outplayed Tom Brady in the AFC Title game, people need to leave this guy alone, it's getting ridiculous now. I get that he hasn't won a Superbowl but he deserves a little bit of a break, I think he's the most hated QB in the league now, I honestly think the Flacco haters would celebrate if Joe dies which would be very sick.

Flacco is NOT that good.

I have a problem with Cam Cameron more than Flacco.

Oh, he outplayed Brady?! Let's crown him the GOAT, because clearly QB's don't have off-games when they play against one of the best defenses in the NFL while the opposing QB is playing against a cupcake defense.

And no, I wouldn't celebrate if Joe dies, he's just not that good right now.

He is a good QB, stop treating him like he's the worst QB ever. I'm not crowning him the GOAT I just want you and others to respect him, people can't even respect him which is sad.

I do respect him, for exactly what he is RIGHT NOW; an average to slightly-above-average QB._________________#FireDeanPees...and Chris Hewitt....and Matt Weiss

In almost everyone else's world he's rated 73 spots too high. I heard he's higher than Tony Romo, and if that's the case, I just have to laugh at this list.

Now your disrespecting Joe Flacco, who do you have a problem with more Cameron or Flacco? The players have spoken, the Ravens clearly support him (they didn't go after Peyton Manning). He outplayed Tom Brady in the AFC Title game, people need to leave this guy alone, it's getting ridiculous now. I get that he hasn't won a Superbowl but he deserves a little bit of a break, I think he's the most hated QB in the league now, I honestly think the Flacco haters would celebrate if Joe dies which would be very sick.

Flacco is NOT that good.

I have a problem with Cam Cameron more than Flacco.

Oh, he outplayed Brady?! Let's crown him the GOAT, because clearly QB's don't have off-games when they play against one of the best defenses in the NFL while the opposing QB is playing against a cupcake defense.

And no, I wouldn't celebrate if Joe dies, he's just not that good right now.

He is a good QB, stop treating him like he's the worst QB ever. I'm not crowning him the GOAT I just want you and others to respect him, people can't even respect him which is sad.

To be fair, you should also stop trying to force him to like Flacco and just respect his opinion. As Ravens fans, we have the best analysis of all of our players, and as much as I love Flacco and will defend him to the death as being a better QB than guys like Ryan, Romo, Schaub, etc., I also realize that not all Ravens fans feel the same way (I have season tickets for God's sake. Do you really think everyone loves Flacco when he makes a stupid play?)

So, instead of forcing SNA to like Flacco and worship him like you and me do, just say "I respectfully disagree with you, SNA." Sports talk is all about arguing, and it wouldn't be fun without it, but you need to understand that not everyone will feel the same way. Like I said before, I'm a Flacco supporter 100%, but he has his problems, bud. _________________

In almost everyone else's world he's rated 73 spots too high. I heard he's higher than Tony Romo, and if that's the case, I just have to laugh at this list.

Now your disrespecting Joe Flacco, who do you have a problem with more Cameron or Flacco? The players have spoken, the Ravens clearly support him (they didn't go after Peyton Manning). He outplayed Tom Brady in the AFC Title game, people need to leave this guy alone, it's getting ridiculous now. I get that he hasn't won a Superbowl but he deserves a little bit of a break, I think he's the most hated QB in the league now, I honestly think the Flacco haters would celebrate if Joe dies which would be very sick.

Flacco is NOT that good.

I have a problem with Cam Cameron more than Flacco.

Oh, he outplayed Brady?! Let's crown him the GOAT, because clearly QB's don't have off-games when they play against one of the best defenses in the NFL while the opposing QB is playing against a cupcake defense.

And no, I wouldn't celebrate if Joe dies, he's just not that good right now.

He is a good QB, stop treating him like he's the worst QB ever. I'm not crowning him the GOAT I just want you and others to respect him, people can't even respect him which is sad.

To be fair, you should also stop trying to force him to like Flacco and just respect his opinion. As Ravens fans, we have the best analysis of all of our players, and as much as I love Flacco and will defend him to the death as being a better QB than guys like Ryan, Romo, Schaub, etc., I also realize that not all Ravens fans feel the same way (I have season tickets for God's sake. Do you really think everyone loves Flacco when he makes a stupid play?)

So, instead of forcing SNA to like Flacco and worship him like you and me do, just say "I respectfully disagree with you, SNA." Sports talk is all about arguing, and it wouldn't be fun without it, but you need to understand that not everyone will feel the same way. Like I said before, I'm a Flacco supporter 100%, but he has his problems, bud.

Thank you. Not everyone agrees with what you have to say. I fully accept that I have a different opinion on just about everything than 95% of Ravens fans.

If everyone agreed about everything there'd be no need for this place, lol._________________#FireDeanPees...and Chris Hewitt....and Matt Weiss

In almost everyone else's world he's rated 73 spots too high. I heard he's higher than Tony Romo, and if that's the case, I just have to laugh at this list.

Now your disrespecting Joe Flacco, who do you have a problem with more Cameron or Flacco? The players have spoken, the Ravens clearly support him (they didn't go after Peyton Manning). He outplayed Tom Brady in the AFC Title game, people need to leave this guy alone, it's getting ridiculous now. I get that he hasn't won a Superbowl but he deserves a little bit of a break, I think he's the most hated QB in the league now, I honestly think the Flacco haters would celebrate if Joe dies which would be very sick.

Flacco is NOT that good.

I have a problem with Cam Cameron more than Flacco.

Oh, he outplayed Brady?! Let's crown him the GOAT, because clearly QB's don't have off-games when they play against one of the best defenses in the NFL while the opposing QB is playing against a cupcake defense.

And no, I wouldn't celebrate if Joe dies, he's just not that good right now.

He is a good QB, stop treating him like he's the worst QB ever. I'm not crowning him the GOAT I just want you and others to respect him, people can't even respect him which is sad.

To be fair, you should also stop trying to force him to like Flacco and just respect his opinion. As Ravens fans, we have the best analysis of all of our players, and as much as I love Flacco and will defend him to the death as being a better QB than guys like Ryan, Romo, Schaub, etc., I also realize that not all Ravens fans feel the same way (I have season tickets for God's sake. Do you really think everyone loves Flacco when he makes a stupid play?)

So, instead of forcing SNA to like Flacco and worship him like you and me do, just say "I respectfully disagree with you, SNA." Sports talk is all about arguing, and it wouldn't be fun without it, but you need to understand that not everyone will feel the same way. Like I said before, I'm a Flacco supporter 100%, but he has his problems, bud.

Thank you. Not everyone agrees with what you have to say. I fully accept that I have a different opinion on just about everything than 95% of Ravens fans.

If everyone agreed about everything there'd be no need for this place, lol.

Ok I apologize for attacking you the way I did, you are entitled to your opinion, are we good?

In almost everyone else's world he's rated 73 spots too high. I heard he's higher than Tony Romo, and if that's the case, I just have to laugh at this list.

Now your disrespecting Joe Flacco, who do you have a problem with more Cameron or Flacco? The players have spoken, the Ravens clearly support him (they didn't go after Peyton Manning). He outplayed Tom Brady in the AFC Title game, people need to leave this guy alone, it's getting ridiculous now. I get that he hasn't won a Superbowl but he deserves a little bit of a break, I think he's the most hated QB in the league now, I honestly think the Flacco haters would celebrate if Joe dies which would be very sick.

Flacco is NOT that good.

I have a problem with Cam Cameron more than Flacco.

Oh, he outplayed Brady?! Let's crown him the GOAT, because clearly QB's don't have off-games when they play against one of the best defenses in the NFL while the opposing QB is playing against a cupcake defense.

And no, I wouldn't celebrate if Joe dies, he's just not that good right now.

He is a good QB, stop treating him like he's the worst QB ever. I'm not crowning him the GOAT I just want you and others to respect him, people can't even respect him which is sad.

To be fair, you should also stop trying to force him to like Flacco and just respect his opinion. As Ravens fans, we have the best analysis of all of our players, and as much as I love Flacco and will defend him to the death as being a better QB than guys like Ryan, Romo, Schaub, etc., I also realize that not all Ravens fans feel the same way (I have season tickets for God's sake. Do you really think everyone loves Flacco when he makes a stupid play?)

So, instead of forcing SNA to like Flacco and worship him like you and me do, just say "I respectfully disagree with you, SNA." Sports talk is all about arguing, and it wouldn't be fun without it, but you need to understand that not everyone will feel the same way. Like I said before, I'm a Flacco supporter 100%, but he has his problems, bud.

Thank you. Not everyone agrees with what you have to say. I fully accept that I have a different opinion on just about everything than 95% of Ravens fans.

If everyone agreed about everything there'd be no need for this place, lol.

Ok I apologize for attacking you the way I did, you are entitled to your opinion, are we good?

Lol no need for apologies, I'm used to people not agreeing with me. Yes, we're good _________________#FireDeanPees...and Chris Hewitt....and Matt Weiss

In almost everyone else's world he's rated 73 spots too high. I heard he's higher than Tony Romo, and if that's the case, I just have to laugh at this list.

Now your disrespecting Joe Flacco, who do you have a problem with more Cameron or Flacco? The players have spoken, the Ravens clearly support him (they didn't go after Peyton Manning). He outplayed Tom Brady in the AFC Title game, people need to leave this guy alone, it's getting ridiculous now. I get that he hasn't won a Superbowl but he deserves a little bit of a break, I think he's the most hated QB in the league now, I honestly think the Flacco haters would celebrate if Joe dies which would be very sick.

Flacco is NOT that good.

I have a problem with Cam Cameron more than Flacco.

Oh, he outplayed Brady?! Let's crown him the GOAT, because clearly QB's don't have off-games when they play against one of the best defenses in the NFL while the opposing QB is playing against a cupcake defense.

And no, I wouldn't celebrate if Joe dies, he's just not that good right now.

He is a good QB, stop treating him like he's the worst QB ever. I'm not crowning him the GOAT I just want you and others to respect him, people can't even respect him which is sad.

To be fair, you should also stop trying to force him to like Flacco and just respect his opinion. As Ravens fans, we have the best analysis of all of our players, and as much as I love Flacco and will defend him to the death as being a better QB than guys like Ryan, Romo, Schaub, etc., I also realize that not all Ravens fans feel the same way (I have season tickets for God's sake. Do you really think everyone loves Flacco when he makes a stupid play?)

So, instead of forcing SNA to like Flacco and worship him like you and me do, just say "I respectfully disagree with you, SNA." Sports talk is all about arguing, and it wouldn't be fun without it, but you need to understand that not everyone will feel the same way. Like I said before, I'm a Flacco supporter 100%, but he has his problems, bud.

I get that there are Ravens fans who don't like Joe Flacco but I just don't like it when people treat him like he's third world garbage. I just want him to get a little respect but at the same time I understand that all of us fans don't have the same opinion.

In almost everyone else's world he's rated 73 spots too high. I heard he's higher than Tony Romo, and if that's the case, I just have to laugh at this list.

Now your disrespecting Joe Flacco, who do you have a problem with more Cameron or Flacco? The players have spoken, the Ravens clearly support him (they didn't go after Peyton Manning). He outplayed Tom Brady in the AFC Title game, people need to leave this guy alone, it's getting ridiculous now. I get that he hasn't won a Superbowl but he deserves a little bit of a break, I think he's the most hated QB in the league now, I honestly think the Flacco haters would celebrate if Joe dies which would be very sick.

Flacco is NOT that good.

I have a problem with Cam Cameron more than Flacco.

Oh, he outplayed Brady?! Let's crown him the GOAT, because clearly QB's don't have off-games when they play against one of the best defenses in the NFL while the opposing QB is playing against a cupcake defense.

And no, I wouldn't celebrate if Joe dies, he's just not that good right now.

He is a good QB, stop treating him like he's the worst QB ever. I'm not crowning him the GOAT I just want you and others to respect him, people can't even respect him which is sad.

To be fair, you should also stop trying to force him to like Flacco and just respect his opinion. As Ravens fans, we have the best analysis of all of our players, and as much as I love Flacco and will defend him to the death as being a better QB than guys like Ryan, Romo, Schaub, etc., I also realize that not all Ravens fans feel the same way (I have season tickets for God's sake. Do you really think everyone loves Flacco when he makes a stupid play?)

So, instead of forcing SNA to like Flacco and worship him like you and me do, just say "I respectfully disagree with you, SNA." Sports talk is all about arguing, and it wouldn't be fun without it, but you need to understand that not everyone will feel the same way. Like I said before, I'm a Flacco supporter 100%, but he has his problems, bud.

I get that there are Ravens fans who don't like Joe Flacco but I just don't like it when people treat him like he's third world garbage. I just want him to get a little respect but at the same time I understand that all of us fans don't have the same opinion.

In almost everyone else's world he's rated 73 spots too high. I heard he's higher than Tony Romo, and if that's the case, I just have to laugh at this list.

To be fair, Flacco has never had the abundance of offensive weapons that Romo has had at his disposal for most of his career. And Joe has displayed a tendency to perform big late in big road games--the last 2 matchups at Pittsburgh and the AFCCG last year come immediately to mind. Those have to weigh heavily in the voting if Joe is ahead of Romo.

And I also like the swagger. Its been years since this franchise had a leader on the offensive side of the ball, and it is even more important that it happens now that Ray and Ed are nearing the end of the road. No, he isn't the best QB in the game--I agree with you there--but I'd rather Joe believe that he is the best than accepting the majority opinion that he is merely average. No one will ever follow an admitted game manager, but they will follow someone who believes he can get it done, and who has demonstrated that he can--albeit inconsistently.

Dilfer brought similar swagger to the table. He also believed he was the best, got the team to follow him, and gave it direction. Yes, that defense was arguably the best in NFL history, but that team was also 5-4 and headed nowhere until Dilfer took over and gave it focus and attitude that was lacking previously--and that ended up pretty good.

Besides, the next time any NFL starter heading into his contract year states that he's merely average, it will be the first time it ever happens. Why should Joe be any different?

Just because the list may have snubbed Romo (who I personally think is a top 7 QB) doesn't mean that Joe should be getting criticized for it. Joe is right about where he should be at this point in the overall rankings.

Though, I'm honestly surprised he made the list considering he had a down year and knowing how much people love to bash the guy any change they get._________________

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