I know people have had problems with demos not appearing or only appearing buried in memos, but I never thought it would happen to me. Well, one day, after hearing about the great Rainbow Six demo, I decided to download it. But it was nowhere to be found. Microsoft started screwing me RIGHT THERE! Normally, I'm not the kind of guy to be able to check for a demo only once, this demo was so hot, I checked multiple times that same day! And Microsoft kept coming back for more, giving it to me again and again.

I thought after the last time when I paid full price for the demi-game Lumines, that it would never happen again, but here I sit ready to check one more time. Oh, baby.

One for the recordbooks, Penthouse, and I never thought it would happen to me...

Played the demo on the 360 just now and I must say it is fantastic. Love it and will get it most assuredly. Everything the previous games were only much better. Can't wait to play this baby. By the way, I did not have to download it cuz it came in the mail on my OXM disk.

I live in Tulsa, Oklahoma and just played the demo from the OXM disk. Also has Just Cause, Destroy All Humans 2, Eragon, and a few others. It does suck though if they are only going to offer it for download in the Europe. How stupid would that be?!

I live in Tulsa, Oklahoma and just played the demo from the OXM disk. Also has Just Cause, Destroy All Humans 2, Eragon, and a few others. It does suck though if they are only going to offer it for download in the Europe. How stupid would that be?!

I assume OXM arranged with UbiSoft to have the demo only available through the demo disk for a set period of time. They'll offer it for download once OXM's exclusivity period is up.

I live in Tulsa, Oklahoma and just played the demo from the OXM disk. Also has Just Cause, Destroy All Humans 2, Eragon, and a few others. It does suck though if they are only going to offer it for download in the Europe. How stupid would that be?!

I assume OXM arranged with UbiSoft to have the demo only available through the demo disk for a set period of time. They'll offer it for download once OXM's exclusivity period is up.

That is exactly what happened as far as this goes. It's pretty much the only reason out there that makes sense.

Okay after the initial next-gen-buzz has worn off (this my second time firing it...took a little longer with GRAW)...

Can't really stand it. It hung up on me after the whole forcing me to use night-vision + heat-vision (which I hate) and I really, really don't want to do that again. The game just screams GRAW and after hating myself for playing through that single-player, there's no way I'll do it over again with Vegas.

Okay after the initial next-gen-buzz has worn off (this my second time firing it...took a little longer with GRAW)...

Can't really stand it. It hung up on me after the whole forcing me to use night-vision + heat-vision (which I hate) and I really, really don't want to do that again. The game just screams GRAW and after hating myself for playing through that single-player, there's no way I'll do it over again with Vegas.

Hmm. I liked GRAW alot. I may look into this. But with CoD3 and GoW coming I may burn out on shooters this fall.

Don't bother with the Viva Pinata one. It's just a lame "interactive video" (also available in the US). 750MB for a video. Ugh. Also, does anyone know if the voice over actors are used for anything other than tutorials and videos in the game? Some of them I don't think I could take for a longer period. The "character" choices seem very stock (dumb elephant, annoying "in your face" hedgehog thing, two-headed snake that seems based on the equally-annoying-but-at-least-thought-of-first frosted mini wheat, and Poocie the Bear), and the actors aren't helping.

You know, my first time through the GRAW singleplayer I went with standard lighting and yes, I had to use night vision for 70 percent of the game and hated that part of it. The second time through I turned up the brightness and never had to use night vision a single time and loved it. Totally different experience.

That is why I don't think R6V will bother me in that respect. One thing I don't like is when the levels are so busy that even in good lighting you can't possibly pick out the bad guys without heatvision or your gun cursor changing to red to let you know you have one targeted in. You flat out should not have to depend on a red cursor to know where the enemy is. I would much rather just have a laser site like in RE4 or Cold Fear. Like that much more.

But I know I will like the game overall. As for multi all I am interested is Coop through the single player missions if supported. I am sooooooo over deathmatches, capture the flags, bases, etc. I hope to never see another of those.

So I played this a couple times last night. I have some pretty serious issues with the paucity of the checkpoints (if no in game save is allowed) and teammate AI is still a little wonky, but overall-wow! The graphics are finally next gen, the game is freaking gorgeous. The guns feel right, its a great blend of realism vs. fun action, the "lean" and cover dynamics work absolutely flawlessly and add so much to the game. I understand why TML dislikes it, but he is wrong. Its an excellent demo that just jumped onto my list of games to buy. Very excited. Now, hopefully ubisoft wont completely fucking destroy the matchmaking options like they did with GRAW and SC:DA. Hopefully.

Yeah, the 3rd-person to 1st-person stuff is so seamless that it feels perfect. They nailed that in Vegas...also, the leaning control-style deserves praise, as well. Watching MP videos, I saw some leaning and peeking and I'm glad that it made it into the MP, unlike GRAW.

Enjoyed the demo overall. Initially I was a bit put off- the opening helicopter ride and gameplay in the first sections was almost carbon-copy from GRAW. In addition, I'm not very impressed by the graphics- they are fine but I definitely wasn't blown away. And could they have picked something a little more exciting than a building under construction? It's Vegas, so show me something I haven't seen in upteen other urban combat games.

However, I did really enjoy all of the different play options that came in later. Once I got to the sections where you were breaching rooms I was really enjoying myself. It basically seems like GRAW with a lot more tactical options, which is a good thing since GRAW felt so limited. And I'm assuming/hoping that they really milk the Vegas setting a lot more than what we've seen here.

So, I'm definitely IN, just don't know if it will be day one or perhaps a bit down the road.

One thing I don't like is when the levels are so busy that even in good lighting you can't possibly pick out the bad guys without heatvision or your gun cursor changing to red to let you know you have one targeted in. You flat out should not have to depend on a red cursor to know where the enemy is.

You might want to rethink your confidence. Even with the brightness turned up, there were definite moments, even in the bright areas, where it was hard to make out the enemies without heat vision (which takes away the red dot, BTW).

None the less, I really enjoyed the demo and am looking forward to the full game.

Not a fan of the save system, though (I thought they'd moved away from that in previous games) and I was sad to learn I couldn't voice command my team. That was something I really enjoyed in previous games. Oh, well.

So, I played the game (thanks to my Live Europe account) and fell in love with it. Very well done game IMHO.

The best parts include the 'take cover' aspect of the game and the fact that I could command my teammates to attack one way through a door while I go a different direction. Crossfire is very deadly for obvious reasons.

I do think I'll have to pick this one up. Shame on Ubisoft and that game magazine though for keeping this demo exclusive to everywhere but the US.

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I just finished playing once through the demo. I really liked it. I'd love to see this co-op with a couple of friends. It felt like a faster paced GRAW to me but with different control mechanisms. The AI seems smarter than GRAW though.

However, this may have to wait on the gaming budget. All my friends are getting GoW when it comes out and I'm going to have to do that as well. This is at the top of my Christmas list though.

anyone know if MS has suddenly caught on to people creating foreign accounts to download stuff? i've been trying to d/l the R6V demo through both european and japanese accounts and it gives an error with both...download is on the Marketplace list, but won't let me start it...