Congratulations !!! Its good that you can have a place to call home, Sad that your history is so filled with oppression of the Palestinians.

In that, the US has a very similar history of oppression of Native Americans, here it took us a couple hundred years to learn the lesson, that it was wrong. I hope Isreal in the next few years does some real soul searching/facing the truth that they are culpable for the retaliations whether right or wrong from the Palestinians, also about Zionist actions, atrocities and settlement building against the Palestinians rights.

We Americans have no problem admitting our mistakes, its time for Israel to come to that place too, that criticism is a good thing and doesn't represent hate of Israel. To face the fact that Propaganda to cover atrocities like the Israeli attack on the Aid Flotilla, doesn't fly in todays world, we see right through the coverups. Its time for them to face the new Union of the Palestinians, stop the Settlement building and aim toward a peacefull next 63 years, treating Palestinians as equals. Israel has the power, if they stop abusing it, they'll find peace

63 years as a land for Jewish people to call home! How can anyone hate on a country who accepts gay marriage, whos diva singer is a transgender women from the Cohen priest line.

thanks OBAMA for sticking by our side

"our side"? uh, what is your country of origin?

Aside from that, Israel has had its share of reasons to be very ashamed. About the time you were born, there was no difference in Israeli immigration policy from that of the Soviet Union. Not sure if this is still the case...... but in answer to your question, yes, there are reasons to 'hate' (whatever your definition of that is) on that country and many others.. Even It's own citizens did.

sxydrkhair saidI have no respect to Israelis that celebrate the death and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people more than 60 years. Shame on you

ROTFL. How many licks does it take before the hatists come out from under their rock?As if there is a shortage of topics seeking to demonize Israel* on RJ - or discuss issues of substance.(*Not in the cause of peace, but to the contrary, to rationalize, justify and perpetuate the war to destroy Israel, damn the facts.)

For those seeking to discuss politics, try any or all of these topics:

sxydrkhair saidI have no respect to Israelis that celebrate the death and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people more than 60 years. Shame on you

ROTFL. How many licks does it take before the hatists come out from under their rock?As if there is a shortage of topics seeking to demonize Israel* on RJ - or discuss issues of substance.(*Not in the cause of peace, but to the contrary, to rationalize, justify and perpetuate the war to destroy Israel, damn the facts.)

For those seeking to discuss politics, try any or all of these topics:

"Palestine" is the Latin/European name for Eretz

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LEERON !!! You DUMB FUCK !!! WHERE DO YOU GET THAT TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT LYING ZIONISTS LIKE YOU WHO TRY TO COVER UP ATROCITIES THROUGH YOUR GOD DAMNED ZIONIST PROPAGANDA IS HATING ON ISRAEL, OR TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT ISRAELS USE OF AIPAC IN THE U.S. TO FURTHER COVER UP THE TRUTH ABOUT ISRAEL, WHY IS THAT HATING ISRAEL ? ANSWER THAT !!!

YOU HAVE AVOIDED ANSWERING FOR 6000 DEAD PALESTINIANS MURDERED, 1500 OF WHICH WERE CHILDREN, KILLED BY ISRAELI SNIPERS, OR ISRAELI - IDF, OR ZIONIST FANATIC SETTLERS, you have on 3 different topics tried to demonize Palestinians over 5 recently killed, but where are your 3 topics about the above 6000? all you have done is make propaganda excuses for not admitting the truth and for not discussing these 'issues of substance'. while we are bored with page after page of your listing what Israels neighboring countries have done in addition to those 5 recently killed. ARE YOU LIKE THOSE FANATICS WHERE THE FOGALS LIVED THAT THINK ITS OK TO KILL PALESTINIANS, THAT THEY ARE JUST THERE FOR USE OF THE JEWS?

WHATS THE PROBLEM DUMB ASS ?? IS IT DEMONIZING TO TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT ISRAEL ? DON'T YOU HAVE ENOUGH ZIONIST PROPAGANDA TO COVER OVER ALL THOSE CHILDREN THAT YOU ISRAELI'S KILLED ? WHAT'S YOUR PROPAGANDA TO COVER UP SHOOTING APPROX. 10 YEAR OLD CHILDREN ?

THE ONE SITE I LEFT ABOVE IS YOUR TOPIC WHERE FOR 2 and 1/2 YEARS YOU HAVE BEEN TRYING TO CLAIM THAT PALESTINE DOESN'T EXIST, DO YOU THINK THIS ZIONIST PROPAGANDA MAKES IT OK FOR YOU ZIONISTS TO STEAL THE LANDS, FARMS, AND HOMES OF PALESTINIANS SO YOU ZIONISTS CAN BUILD SETTLEMENTS ON THEIR ANCESTRAL HOMES ?

ARE YOU SO GOD DAMN STUPID THAT YOU DON"T THINK PEOPLE CAN SEE RIGHT THROUGH YOUR ZIONIST APOLOGETICS ABOUT DOING ALL THIS TO THE PALESTINIANS, THEN YOU HAVE THE SHITZPAH TO COME ON THIS TOPIC AND CLAIM WE ARE DEMONIZING ISRAEL, BECAUSE WE POINT OUT THE TRUTH THAT YOU ARE HELL BENT ON COVERING UP ?

TALK ABOUT RATIONALIZING YOU STUPID SOB !!! THERE ISN"T ONE TOPIC YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAVEN'T WASTED OUR TIME WITH YOUR RATIONALIZING THAT EVERYTHING THE ZIONISTS DO, NO MATTER HOW INHUMANE THE ACTION,. IN YOUR FUCKED UP ZIONIST WORLD, ITS OK AS LONG AS ITS THE ZIONISTS DOING IT TO THE PALESTINIAN,

YOUR JUST PLAIN AND SIMPLY AN OBNOXIOUS LIAR, THIS POST OF YOURS IS NOTHING BUT LIES.

NAME ONE TIME WHEN I, POUNCER, OR THE OTHER REGULAR POSTERS SAID WE HATE ISRAEL ?? NAME ONE TIME WE'VE SAID WE HATE EVEN YOU ? YOUR THE MOST OBNOXIOUS PAIN IN THE ASS I"VE EVER RUN INTO ON THE NET, AND I WON"T EVEN TROUBLE MYSELF TO HATE EVEN YOU !!

SO LEERON, HERE'S A FEW ISSUES OF SUBSTANCE THAT YOU HAVE BEEN REFUSING TO RESPOND TO.

WHY ALL THE ATTENTION ON 5 THAT TWO TEENS KILLED AND NO RESPONSE TO THE 6000 INCLUDING THOSE 1500 CHILDREN?

WHY NO ANSWER TO WHY THE ISRAELI'S STARTED VIOLENCE ON THE AID FLOTILLA KILLING 9 IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS?

(you did however forward your propaganda by writing that the Gazans were not hungry enough under laws of war, to require an aid flotilla, those were your words you inhumane SOB)

WHY NO ANSWER TO MY QUESTION ABOUT YOUR SAYING PALESTINE DOESN'T EXIST, AND WHETHER OR NOT BY SPENDING 2 and 1/2 YEARS FORWARDING THIS ZIONIST PROPANDA, YOU MEAN TO TELL US THAT SINCE PALESTINE DOESN'T EXIST THAT THE SETTLEMENTS ARE THEREBY LEGAL? DO YOU THINK THEY ARE LEGAL AND STEALING LAND IS LEGAL BECAUSE YOU SAY PALESTINE DOESN'T EXIST ?

ARE YOUR LYING ZIONIST PROPAGANDA TACTICS HERE ON RJ REPRESENTATIVE OR TYPICAL OF THE ZIONIST LEADERSHIP IN ISRAEL ?

IF SO ITS NO DAMN WONDER THERE IS NO PEACE, WHO IN HELL COULD EVEN HAVE A GIVE AND TAKE NEGOTIATION WITH THE LIKES OF A OBNOXIOUS FANATIC LIKE YOU ??

TO THOSE WHO COMPLAIN I YELLED HERE BY USING CAPS, GET OVER IT, THIS DUMB FUCKER NEEDS YELLED AT IN BIG PRINT FOR ALL THE OBNOXIOUS PROPAGANDA HE USES DAILY TO SUPPORT THE SAME ACTIONS BY THE ZIONISTS AGAINST THE PALESTINIANS AS HITLERS GERMANY USED AGAINST THE JEWS. the only thing they've left out when you think about it is rounding them up for the concentration camps as slave labor or to send them to the gas chambers. otherwise the zionist fanatics have nearly duplicated what was done to them back in the 40's.

The Mandatory shall be responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home, as laid down in the preamble, and the development of self-governing institutions

Note: This is more than 2 decades prior to the Holocaust.(Lest anyone attempt to reverse causality.)

Curious why the Jewish-state-to-be would be known as Palestine?

Consider that no Arab state by that name had ever existed.Filastin was a military district of a foreign Arab empire that occupied the land some 1,000 years earlier.Nor was there such a district within the Ottoman Empire which occupied the region for 400 years prior to WW I.Nor did the Arabs living in the region consider themselves "Palestinians".

As the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica explains, the term "Palestine" at that time was a reference to Eretz Yisrael, the Jewish homeland:

PALESTINE, a geographical name of rather loose application. Etymological strictness would require it to denote exclusively the narrow strip of coast-land once occupied by the Philistines, from whose name it is derived. It is, however, conventionally used as a name for the territory which, in the Old Testament, is claimed as the inheritance of the pre-exilic Hebrews; thus it may be said generally to denote the southern third of the province of Syria.

YOU GOD DAMN IDIOT LEERON !! YOUR A SHAMELESS UNEMBARRASSABLE FOOL TO SPELL OUT WHAT YOU DID ABOVE, YOUR LIKE, OH !!!! ITS A FLY ON THE TABLE, WHY DON"T ONE OF YOU GENTILES JUST FLICK IT OFF FOR ME !!!! THATS JUST HOW FLIPPANT YOU ARE WITH THE PALESTINIANS RIGHTS THAT YOU ABOVE SHOWED NO CARE WHATEVER FOR, BECAUSE AS YOU STATED, ITS ONLY ABOUT THE DAMNED SELF CENTERED ZIONIST JEW LIKE YOU.

FORTUNATELY MOST JEWS AREN'T AS DESPICABLE LIKE YOU ARE HERE ON RJ. YOU HAVE REALLY SHOWN YOUR GOD DAMNED ASS THIS TIME !!!. I HAVE TO WONDER IF YOUR THIS OBNOXIOUS WITH YOUR SHITZPAH IN PERSON WHEN AROUND PALESTINIAN AND MIDDLE EASTERN, HOW YOU MANAGE TO NOT GET YOUR MOUTH MASHED BY A FIST. AS UNEMBARASSABLE A JEW ZIONIST AS YOU ARE HERE ON THE NET, I RATHER DOUBT YOU'D HAVE THE GOOD SENSE TO CURB SUCH DEROGATORY PROPAGANDA.

YOUR A FUCKING FOOL TO ACTUALLY PUT SUCH BULLSHIT IN WRITING WITH THOUSANDS OF PALESTINIAN AND MIDDLE EASTERN PEOPLE READING THIS BILE FROM YOU !!

63 years of vicious, Zionist oppression of the Palestinian people in their homelands yeah that is really something to celebrate about. Lets just ignore Israel's birthday and focus on more important things.

wherever such SHITZPAH is exhibited in such a caloused way toward palestinians, expect that to arouse hate, If he is representative or the everyday Zionist then your nation is in deep trouble with ever being accepted. I don't hold hate myself, but there are many who mash his mouth as soon as he finished with such a uncaring disregard of Palestinian rights to their ancestral homeland. He spoke as if pushing Palestinians aside was of little consequence and basicly said, they don't count, this is only our homeland, WHAT A PIECE OF ZIONIST BULLSHIT !!!

roadbikeRob said63 years of vicious, Zionist oppression of the Palestinian people in their homelands yeah that is really something to celebrate about. Lets just ignore Israel's birthday and focus on more important things.

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Did you take the time to read and take in the caloused and ZIONIST SELF CENTERED meaning of what C4 said above ?

If the majority of jews believe like him that Palestinians don't count, they never existed, that they are to be pushed aside for the good of the JEW, HA !!!!!!!!! and they wonder why they are estranged from the rest of the world? Are they that stupid, to not understand how such a caloused attitude toward the historical homeland of the Palestinians would bring a deep seated hate on them, If that's how they look at the palestinians and other neighboring country's when they've taken their lands, if they had any sense they should expect to be hated. Indeed such attitudes attracts hate. I am APPALLED at such SHITZPAH !!! (chutzpah)

sxydrkhair saidI have no respect to Israelis that celebrate the death and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people more than 60 years. Shame on you

ROTFL. How many licks does it take before the hatists come out from under their rock?As if there is a shortage of topics seeking to demonize Israel* on RJ - or discuss issues of substance.(*Not in the cause of peace, but to the contrary, to rationalize, justify and perpetuate the war to destroy Israel, damn the facts.)

For those seeking to discuss politics, try any or all of these topics:

The Mandatory shall be responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home, as laid down in the preamble, and the development of self-governing institutions

Note: This is more than 2 decades prior to the Holocaust.(Lest anyone attempt to reverse causality.)

Curious why the Jewish-state-to-be would be known as Palestine?

Consider that no Arab state by that name had ever existed.Filastin was a military district of a foreign Arab empire that occupied the land some 1,000 years earlier.Nor was there such a district within the Ottoman Empire which occupied the region for 400 years prior to WW I.Nor did the Arabs living in the region consider themselves "Palestinians".

As the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica explains, the term "Palestine" at that time was a reference to Eretz Yisrael, the Jewish homeland:

PALESTINE, a geographical name of rather loose application. Etymological strictness would require it to denote exclusively the narrow strip of coast-land once occupied by the Philistines, from whose name it is derived. It is, however, conventionally used as a name for the territory which, in the Old Testament, is claimed as the inheritance of the pre-exilic Hebrews; thus it may be said generally to denote the southern third of the province of Syria.

SO HERE YOU HAVE IT MEN !!! THIS ZIONIST PROPAGANDIST JUST ABOVE HERE EXPLAINS THAT TO HIS ILK, PALESTINE NEVER EXISTED, THEIR RACIST IDEOLOGY HAS IT THAT THIS MANDATE GIVES THEM THE AUTHORITY TO TAKE WHAT THEY WANT WITH IMPUNITY, BUILD SETTLEMENTS WHERE THEY WANT WITH IMPUNITY BECAUSE TO THEM ITS THE JEWISH HOMELAND SO PALESTINIANS HAVE NO RIGHTS !!!

WHAT A FUCKED HISTORY TO HAVE THIS DESPOTIC ZIONIST IDEOLOGY AS THE FOUNDATION FOR THEIR EXISTANCE !!

THIS IDEOLOGY DOOMS PEACE OR NEGOTIATIONS, BECAUSE THE ZIONISTS BEGIN FROM AN IDEOLOGY/BELIEF SYSTEM THAT APPRECIATES NO PALESTINIAN LAND CLAIM RIGHTS. NO GOOD FAITH BARGAINING CAN TAKE PLACE UNDER SUCH CIRCUMSTANCES.

THE ISRAELI'S HAVE LET THE ZIONIST IDEOLOGS HIJACK THEIR CHANCES FOR PEACE.

wherever such SHITZPAH is exhibited in such a caloused way toward palestinians, expect that to arouse hate, If he is representative or the everyday Zionist then your nation is in deep trouble with ever being accepted. I don't hold hate myself, but there are many who mash his mouth as soon as he finished with such a uncaring disregard of Palestinian rights to their ancestral homeland. He spoke as if pushing Palestinians aside was of little consequence and basicly said, they don't count, this is only our homeland, WHAT A PIECE OF ZIONIST BULLSHIT !!!

Do you support that idiot in such Ideology ?

Please tell us most jews don't hold with that kind of Ideology?

No I didn't read Leerons to sxydrkhair, but I did open this page and saw your comment before Leeron posted anything here "igniting the fire"and then sxydrkhair saying,

"I have no respect to Israelis that celebrate the death and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people more than 60 years. Shame on you"

So what I saw is a thread about Israeli Independence day, and you and sxydrkhair coming here without anything productive to say and starting a fight, after if you recall, you promised me your self that you will stop any Israel bashing when the topic is not about the current conflict, so you are not a man of you word.

As to what sxydrkhair said.. Again to repost..."I have no respect to Israelis that celebrate the death and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people more than 60 years. Shame on you"

I take it that he metaphorically replaced "celebrates Independence" with "celebrate the death and ethnic cleansing"... in a sence bashing every single Israeli person (like... ME)

you and sxydrkhair instigated the fight, whatever was said to your direction is well deserved.

1. Deny the existence of Palestine and Palestinian people2. Refused allows Palestinians self determination and East Jerusalem as Palestinian capital. (Ignored that East Jerusalem capital of Israel is ILLEGAL)3. There is no such thing called the right of return.4. There is no such thing "Occupation" and Occupation is not illegal.5. There never was the ethnic cleansing against the Palestinians.6. The Palestinian "prisoners" are "terrorists" (They are civilians fighting against the Israel's illegal occupation.)7. Israel's denial of Palestinian access to water.8. Denial of the Israeli massacre of Palestinians at Deir Yassin and other massacres.9. There is no Palestinian culture and history.10. Israel is always right. "No one has the RIGHT to put the state of Israel on trial" - Ariel Sharon

LOL !!! No young man, I'm a night owl, as you age you don't require as much sleep. (you might as well play nice because I'll be around, there's always tomorrow you know)

Wouldn't you rather talk about Israel ? What do you think prospects for peace are in the near future. (say 2 years)

The prospects for peace ?--Remember that little dust up between the Hezbollah/Lebanese and Israel ?After Israel opened a giant can of WhoopAss on 'em, they decided that it might just be a good idea to not terrorize the Israelis.--Pretty much the same thing happened in the Gaza strip, although the Hamas/Palestinians are kind of slow, and need to have the lesson repeated a few more times until they get it.