Not my point Steve. It is the point were CCP doesn’t complete what they are working on or they band aide stuff for as long as they can instead of looking to the future and planning better (it is getting better, but still has a long way to go. Maybe CCP could use more transparency on things - minus the NDA tweaks to the game. But supporting stuff could use it. Like the forums, community site, the gate. And is ESI really up with CREST? Maybe for per character, but there seems to be little to no corp level and there is nothing to make it easier to ESI an entire account in at once.

First break things, then retire the workaround, then think of a replacement… !!CCP!! work flow at its finest.

Seems to be CCP’s recent MO - retire useful things, then give vague promises on restoring functionality sometime in the future, in the meantime you can use this thing our players have made better somewhere else for free. This is like retirement of EVElopedia and its fiction contents all over again, it took them a year to make the fiction portal a reality after they said it would “take a couple of months”, and now it has been 6 months since it was opened up, and the fiction portal is still full of dead links and as far as I can tell there has been no new articles in 4-5 months.

If you have trouble undestanding how frustrating this is to me as a roleplayer, then imagine if CCP retired POS’s because they couldn’t be arsed to fix them, and introduced replacement structures only a year later, leaving you with nothing in the meantime.

Someone really should tell the higher ups at CCP that you don’t generally replace useful things unless you have an adequate alternative ready. As far as I understand, there isn’t a good alternative for the EVE Gate or its most used feature, composing mails while out of game.

I’m aware that you find this hilarious, ridiculous and silly. I’m aware that this is ongoingly off topic. Feel free to research, learn and spend five+ years on it, or just believe someone who has a really unusual hobby.

They’re shutting down evegate because there’s an issue with it. Not just because they don’t want it any more.

And instead of fixing it they are removing it completely. Imagine if everyone worked like that. “Well, there is certainly cavity here in your tooth, but right now I don’t feel like doing a filling, so I’ll just remove it. Maybe sometime in the future I’ll give you a replacement tooth, though, so don’t be upset.”

That issue existed for years and CCP did not bother with it. CCP also had started revamping the webservices for years but instead of working on important services like EVE Gate first, which had been in dire disrepair for years, they had nothing better to do than to produce a dysfunctional feature show, a dysfunctional new forum and a dysfunctional twitter account that is slower to report issues than reddit. CCP had all the time in the world to produce a working and better web-based mail and character client but they opted to waste their time on other things.

Appreciate your work; however, sorry, but your service is not appealing to the eye nor is it easy to use. If this is a replacement for EVE gate, you better put some serious work into it. And soon, sooner than CCP puts work into their EVE Gate replacement.

And this is why it’s going to be a massive pain for API auditors going forwards. Also for people with more than a couple of accounts it’s going to be horrendous adding SSO to every character on every account, which will actually be a more painful experience than it is currently. Good way to dissuade people.