**Live help will not be the place someone looking for articles will go

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**Concern that our time is being wasted (examples of the forums)

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**Looking at https://familysearch.org/search Could a link be added after RECORDS GENEALOGIES CATALOG BOOKS&nbsp;? say Research Assistance that allows searching in the wiki?

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**Option - add a link to the wiki in the footer

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**What is the long term plan for the wiki and how it will be access via the homepage?

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*'''Liaison with the [[GSWAC]]'''

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**Will meet on alternate weeks, when the Community Council is not meeting

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**Are FHL employees still required to work on the wiki? (Yes, but the time depends on the managers)[[User:Averyld|averyld]] 19:21, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

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**SEO ''purpose statements'' - did those involve let [[Moderators]] and [[Adopters]] know what they were planning? Possibly not, but this has been done a limited number of pages. Danielle will discuss with her unit, lack of communication [[User:Averyld|averyld]] 19:21, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

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*'''[[Moderators]]''' - listed under ''Things you can do'' upload images

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**Should Moderators be given rights to upload images without the need for them to be reviewed? (Moderators should be able to upload images from the Special pages without the need for them to be reviewed) They need to be trained on licensing, etc. [[User:Averyld|averyld]] 19:21, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

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*Wiki Contributors '''Newsletter'''

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**Announce the changes to the wider site and how this effects the wiki

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*Add '''agenda item''' for all Community Council meetings - update from the GSWAC liaison

** Examples on the same paragraph being added in twice from a gazetteer. It looks like missionaries are doing a ''paste and run'' exercise without looking what content is already included in the article.

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** It would be helpful if people created a user page

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** Adding headings without content -- a year later still no content. Would be better to add heading along with content.

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** Fine line between encouraging people to add content and well meaning people go find information and copy it to the FS wiki.

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* '''Concept "less is more"''', important research help could be missed in the volume of background stuff

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** Lots of help content but needs to be simplified (4 or 5 pages about how to add footnotes) with perhaps a clear guide to help new contributors find the help they need.

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* '''Help Wanted pages'''

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** Credit was given for the project to establish the help wanted pages in the wiki.

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** This is moving in the ''right direction''

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* '''New Look from April'''

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** Looked at https://stage.familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Main_Page which currently shows the new header and right-hand sidebar.

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** The council welcomed the increase in the screen width being used when viewed in wider screens

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** A word of caution that the current settings causes a large column of whitespace to be created between content on the left and the right-hand sidebar on wide screens. (4 inches on a 25 inch screen).

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** Where left-hand sidebar are used these could be widened

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** Wikipedia seem to cope with this with lots of images used to support the text along with infoboxes etc.

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* '''News & Events sections'''

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** Spoke about general supportive comments about removing these sections as the default and only having them when contributors are keeping them up to date

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** Expect some feedback from others at the [[Contributors Meeting]] tomorrow.

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==== February 6, 2013 ====

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Apologies from [[User:Evancol|Jane]]

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* '''Surname pages''' - draft example [[User:Ldrew/Sandbox8]]

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** Notable people should be limited to those truly "notable" not just lists from Wikipedia.

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*** See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_(surname)

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** Be careful we are not opening the door to inappropriate lists of names

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** Should be limited to directing people to resources available in other places

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** Most people are interested in a family name in a location - how does this help?

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** Look at http://www.linkpendium.com/genealogy/USA/sur/ and http://www.one-name.org/

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** Need some guidelines that outline how these pages could be developed and used

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** Pages to be created only when content available - not develop hundreds of pages with only a structure

Will meet on alternate weeks, when the Community Council is not meeting

Are FHL employees still required to work on the wiki? (Yes, but the time depends on the managers)averyld 19:21, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

SEO purpose statements - did those involve let Moderators and Adopters know what they were planning? Possibly not, but this has been done a limited number of pages. Danielle will discuss with her unit, lack of communication averyld 19:21, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Should Moderators be given rights to upload images without the need for them to be reviewed? (Moderators should be able to upload images from the Special pages without the need for them to be reviewed) They need to be trained on licensing, etc. averyld 19:21, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Wiki Contributors Newsletter

Announce the changes to the wider site and how this effects the wiki

Add agenda item for all Community Council meetings - update from the GSWAC liaison

After discussion: two options were strongest: Going the way FamilySearch goes or use Get Satisfaction

November 28, 2012

Next meeting: Non-functioning moderators. Jane has a list with notes, such as no responses for a minimum of 3 times, (and not active in the past 120 days). Moderator is first line of contact especially when disputes, etc. After moderators, we'll discuss the same point with adopters.

We need someone to coordinate, teamwork

Barnraising committee, everyone selected swoops in on an area - adopters

Uniformity of presentation

What do we think we can achieve beyond what FamilySearch tasked this council with?

Communication

Use the Wiki contributors newsletter to show the rules, etc. We as a group can feed into that and get people into action.

Also use the blog.

Coordinating projects:

Avoiding duplication

This group facilitates community relationships. We notice areas of duplication, get them work together. Coordination.

Issues: resolving them, such as how the wiki promotes professional genealogists.

Recommending pros is a minefield.

We need to present it in a way that is helpful to the users and that professional organizations could support as well.

People need a voice. We listen to issues, seek to get the right people involved and communicating to resolve them.

Next contributors newsletter: tell the community who we are, invite their suggestions.

FHLC issues discussed. Monmouthshire not part of England -- wiki can explain and have redirects

Please use the email of the group members to follow up on thoughts from this meeting.

November 14, 2012

An initial meeting was held where each member had the opportunity to introduce themselves to the other council members. Janell Vasquez, from FamilySearch, talked through the Council Charter covering the purpose and working with the council members to refine some of the membership/terms of the Council. Jane was selected to be the Council Chair.

The date of the next meeting was set as Wednesday November 28 with a view to meet every second Wednesday thereafter.