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For those of you who have never watched NA, you obviously don't know who these guys are, and that's okay. I'll educate:

The Gleanons and Galactimytes are two separate races, who are at war. The Gleanons are evil and Crita became their Queen. Mara became the Galactimytes "Ambassador" or something. The fighting between these two races was heavily featured in all of season two of NA. It basically WAS season two of NA.

It would be like if in the 80's cartoon of MOTU, Trollans and the Konseals (Loo-Kee's race) battled it out for 10 episodes and were called "obscure."

I think this has REALLY shown how much of an interest Mattel really has with NA as a whole, when a major part of it is "obscure." I'm pretty sure characters appearing in cameos ONLY in maybe 3-5 episodes would be obscure (Chief Carnivus), concepts that never appeared in any media (Gygor and Vikor), possible 80's knock-off toys (Fuerza-T and Wun-Dar) or only appeared once (Green Goddess and Preternia He-Man) are obscure. Not a grouping of 50+ characters on a TV show seen worldwide by millions, that had their own story arch and toy prototypes shown in a magazine and online for all to see! Grrr...

From a 1991 Mattel catalogue (and Mattel did have their names copywritten in 1990).

Gleanons:

Galactimytes:

Last edited by Darkspecter; September 4, 2010 at 05:14am.

Take part in Illumina Day! Let people know who she is and help get her in MOTUC.

I think that "You don't know who these are unless you've seen NA Season 2" definitely counts as "obscure" in the context of MotU as a whole.

There are people who don't know the later MOTU characters or ANY of the NA characters. That means nothing. I'm sure these groupings appeared in more episodes than a bunch of the toys did.

The point is, they are NOT obscure. Only to non-NA fans. To non-NA fans, everything NA is obscure.

EDIT: I just wanted to point out I'm not hating on characters that actually ARE obscure (like the ones I mentioned in the opening post). I love obscure stuff. These two races are not obscure though. That's what I'm pointing out.

Last edited by Darkspecter; September 4, 2010 at 05:40am.

Take part in Illumina Day! Let people know who she is and help get her in MOTUC.

I think that "You don't know who these are unless you've seen NA Season 2" definitely counts as "obscure" in the context of MotU as a whole.

oh give me a break. how many figures are we going to put in the 'You don't know who these are unless you've seen 200x' etc. that's not a valid argument to stop chief carnivus etc and it isn't valid for these guys either. this line is all about embracing the 'supporting cast' as well.

Hello.
Really? Crita (spelling?), Skeltor's NA love interest, becomes the queen of the (i think, from the pics) small evil guys that fight with gardening tools?
Lovely.
Well i think that, if they are so prominent in NA (did'nt know it had a season two) calling them obscure might be exageration however the second part of the answer is the one that matters: they'd require too much tooling.
I suppose most NA characters can be integrated in MOTUC as 6" inch figure (like Optik, really nice figure, now showcased alongside the evil warriors on my shelves), while these little guys would, probably, be rather small in size. I think this, rather than their being "obscure" ,is what prevents them seeing the light right now. He did not say "no, absolutely not", however.

I'm a huge NA fan, but even I would classify them as rather obscure in relation to the other characters. Doesn't mean that I wouldn't buy them. But it's a valid question if there'd really be enough "customer" support for those guys.

I'm a huge NA fan, but even I would classify them as rather obscure in relation to the other characters. Doesn't mean that I wouldn't buy them. But it's a valid question if there'd really be enough "customer" support for those guys.

Et tu, Sir Reilly?

I think there would be fan support! They're these cool little rock-looking guys with axes and such. They could chop you to pieces before you even SEE them! I mean, come on, they're MUCH cooler than the meteorbs. They're equally as cool as the Energy Zoids. I think those two last sentences are going to go over many people's heads though.

Take part in Illumina Day! Let people know who she is and help get her in MOTUC.

I think there would be fan support! They're these cool little rock-looking guys with axes and such. They could chop you to pieces before you even SEE them! I mean, come on, they're MUCH cooler than the meteorbs. They're equally as cool as the Energy Zoids. I think those two last sentences are going to go over many people's heads though.

Dude..."they're equally as cool as the Energy Zoids" really doesn't help their case.

Let's first see if we can get Darius, Filmation characters, and the '87 movie characters before jumping into territory that's as obscure as you can get it.

On the plus side, since they all seem to have the exact same mold, Mattel could likely do them all with ease.

This is the first that i`ve EVER heard of them. admittedly I HAVE the NA series but haven`t even made it past the 2nd disc of the first season. but here`s the thing, this is the FIRST TIME I`VE EVER heard of them evenon these boards. I can`t recall any fan art or anyone mentioning them at all. NA as a whole is relatively obscure though. it`s the `dirty little secret`of MOTU fandom in a way. the vintage line is the big one, every character from thereis famous or infamous one way por another 2002 series is more recent and also more widely loved than NA, so the characters even if they appeared only once, are in fans recent memories as from the 2002 line manyof us have been asking about getting these guys or even making customs or fan art. these little duudes you`re talking about here, hardly anyone has EVER mentioned them. fan art, customs, fan fic, etc. so if obscure isn`t a good word then fan apathy might be better, as up til this thread and that q&a session. no one has considered them.

no offense to the NA fans but NA as a whole is the most obscure of MOTU sublines. or at the least it`s the one with the least requested and talked about characters, least amount of fan art, customs and fan fiction. it never captured the mass imagination like the original line, PoP and 2002 did, I mean NO BOAY talks about the new movie coming out being faithful to NA, there`s a big reason for that. You can love it but you have to admit that it`s really not the line that the majority of fans and non fans alike think of when they hear he-man. and I think outside of he-man and skeletor the mutants are probably the ones that will get the most interest and love.

That being said these little guys look kind of cool. I`d buy em. they look like the old m.u.s.c.l.e. figures mattel put out but with armour

You can love it but you have to admit that it`s really not the line that the majority of fans and non fans alike think of when they hear he-man.

well you know... if you'd get off these hard core MOTU fan forums to other more general forums which are more representative of the MOTUC collector base, you'd see that things like Illumina, no-name-figure-on-box and even chief carnivus and gygor are met with a blank stare. there are a lot of things more obscure than these that are already in the line.

i badly want these guys and the meteorbs too... this line just keeps on extending though and i really think a 'first round' needs to be done by 2016 so everyone can get their ram mans etc... i wouldn't mind these as an oversized slot soon though, same with meteorbs (i can't imagine that there are enough oversized things to get them to 2016 without going really obscure).

I think that "You don't know who these are unless you've seen NA Season 2" definitely counts as "obscure" in the context of MotU as a whole.

NA Season 2?! Most cats haven't even gotten past the first episode, let alone Season 1!

Originally Posted by Darkspecter

There are people who don't know the later MOTU characters or ANY of the NA characters. That means nothing. I'm sure these groupings appeared in more episodes than a bunch of the toys did.

The point is, they are NOT obscure. Only to non-NA fans. To non-NA fans, everything NA is obscure.

That's alot of damn people.

EDIT: I just wanted to point out I'm not hating on characters that actually ARE obscure (like the ones I mentioned in the opening post). I love obscure stuff. These two races are not obscure though. That's what I'm pointing out.

I think the Mytes and the Gleanons are definitely obscure. They appeared in the last 10 episodes of NA. By then, only the most hardcore of fans were watching since everyone else jumped ship 54 episodes ago. If people don't know who Master Sebrian is, then they definitely won't know who Beemo and Niffel are.

well you know... if you'd get off these hard core MOTU fan forums to other more general forums which are more representative of the MOTUC collector base, you'd see that things like Illumina, no-name-figure-on-box and even chief carnivus and gygor are met with a blank stare. there are a lot of things more obscure than these that are already in the line.

true but the obscurity of the g&g`s amongst hardcore fans can`t be denied so imagine how much MORE obscure they`d be outside of us.
again it was Masters of The Universe that captured the majority of the fandom (non fans out there know of it too) NA is COMPLETELY unrecognizable to non fans. Carnivous and Gygor FIT IN with the perception of MOTU. people may not know them but they fit in. NA doesn`t fit in with MOTU in that sense. Particularly the good guys. it`s like Toy Story 3 the bug guy looks like he could have been an MOTU figure, he wasn`t but he fits into the general memory of the line. so in a sense you trade off invoking memories with absolute WTH is that reaction. Look as I said you love what you love and that`s fine, but it`s silly to get indignant over every little comment that doesn`t jibe with what we feel about certain characters. I LOVE the Energy Zoids, had a BLAST with them as a kid, but they are hardly recognizable as MOTU characters, and I realize they aren`t widely loved (but people pay a tonne for em on ebay go figure) it`s ok that they are pariahs in the world of MOTU. I personally thinkthey are great and I`m proud of it.

I'm not a NA fan. That being said, I do embrace the notion of MotUC being all inclusive.

I wouldn't object to these being made, but they would be so far down the list. Even the Meteorbs have more of a right to be made than these guys, and I don't like the Meteorbs.

Honestly, I don't know why any NA fans would want some of the NA slots taken up with something like this. As a vintage MotU and 200X fan, I know i wouldn't want slots taken up with the vintage Meteorbs or 200X Samurai figures, for instance.

" the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few "
" or the one "