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It's the same old story. Those who choose not to follow rules usually muck it up for everyone else. Happened in grammer school and keeps going well into adult life. It's a shame some never grow up. (present company accepted of course).

My point was if the hackers spent the same resources on their JOB as they do trying to get around the system, plant viruses, bots, etc, they'd probably be rich or certainly making more money than blindly planting some virus with no real financial gain.

Just like a bank or any other company, Directv has to put a good-faith effort to safeguard the product that their suppliers have put in their hands to deliver only to paying customers. Efforts that subvert that whether it's burning bootleg DVDs, bit-torrent files, identity theft, etc. end up costing all of us.

I remember the days that a customer would hand me a stack of diskettes of something like Lotus 123 and ask that I install the same copy (that they had gotten free from someone) on 20 or more workstations, instead of paying for letitimate licenses.

I had to refuse, explain my position on shoplifting, and probably lost a few customers along the way.

Spending to stimulate the economy as fast as the credit cards will allow!

I remember the days that a customer would hand me a stack of diskettes of something like Lotus 123 and ask that I install the same copy (that they had gotten free from someone) on 20 or more workstations, instead of paying for letitimate licenses.

I had to refuse, explain my position on shoplifting, and probably lost a few customers along the way.

Just like a bank or any other company, Directv has to put a good-faith effort to safeguard the product that their suppliers have put in their hands to deliver only to paying customers.

1. Block streaming behind DirecTV Username and Password. Credentials tied to authentication system that determines if you have the video package that allows you the rights to view that channel.

2. Check the LAN for presence of legitimate, DirecTV DVR Receiver as a secondary authentication token that you are within your home reciever area.

3. Check local IP, VPN status and latency to DVR to ensure this is a local connection and your not trying to placeshift (this is not a slingbox).

Put a steak in it, done.

As for my iPad it's running the HoneyPad theme for Dreamboard. It's fully customizable. Background moves with swiping from screen to screen. Widgets can be placed anywhere. Icon's can be arranged any way you want from screen to screen. A full apps list looks like a Honeycomb tablet. Best of both worlds with the customize-ability of android but the appstore library of an ipad/iphone.

Okay so once jailbroken, nobody would ever dare to circumvent those restrictions.

Well username and password is on DirecTV's servers. You hack that and we all have more to worry about than streaming to an iPad. Like customer credit card information, addresses, social security numbers, etc.

My point was if the hackers spent the same resources on their JOB as they do trying to get around the system, plant viruses, bots, etc, they'd probably be rich or certainly making more money than blindly planting some virus with no real financial gain.

Just like a bank or any other company, Directv has to put a good-faith effort to safeguard the product that their suppliers have put in their hands to deliver only to paying customers. Efforts that subvert that whether it's burning bootleg DVDs, bit-torrent files, identity theft, etc. end up costing all of us.

I remember the days that a customer would hand me a stack of diskettes of something like Lotus 123 and ask that I install the same copy (that they had gotten free from someone) on 20 or more workstations, instead of paying for letitimate licenses.

I had to refuse, explain my position on shoplifting, and probably lost a few customers along the way.

You have no clue what jailbreaking is about.

When you buy an iDevice. You can only buy apps from the app store. There are a lot of app developers who can not sale apps because they don't meet certian requirements that apple puts in place.

First of all jailbreaking has been ruled as perfectly legal and has nothing to do with software piracy. Jailbreaking is simply a means of gaining root acsess to the file system so that an alternate app store can be installed (cydia).

Cydia allows developers who can not sale their apps on the official app store a place to do buisness. Most of the hackers involved in jailbreaking are completely againsted software piracy... There actualy is a good reason for hackers to spend time jailbreaking.... They can sale apps apps that they develop on cydia.

I have personly spent more money on cydia apps then I have on app store apps... There are a lot of cool apps that add a lot of functionality to the devices.... In fact most of what iOS devices have today came from the jailbreak screen.... The first app market (installer) came from jailbreaking.

It's obvious that apple looks at what people use on jailbroken devices and often times implement the features... Apps, backgrounding, mms, notifications, multitasking..... Were all on jailbroken iPhones first..

So stop associating jailbreaking with ilegal activity.... It's not... The only reason apple even cares is because they don't want to have to deal with support problems related to porley written software... And that is understandable. They also want a cut of the apps sold witch they don't get from cydia.

Jailbreaking just makes portable devises more like computers. If you think that jailbreaking is the cause of piracy.... Then you should also agree that Microsoft and apple are the cause of piracy on computers by allowing root acsess to the file system and not saling software exclusively through their own online store..

I don't think directv has a problem with jailbreaking itself... They are just worried about somone making an app that could capture video.. That is understandable as well because then they have the mpaa and everyone else coming down on them...

My suggestion to directv is to go the encryption rout.... Because they aren't going to win the the cat and mouse game of jailbreak detection. They made dirctv2pc work... It shouldn't be any different...

When you buy an iDevice. You can only buy apps from the app store. There are a lot of app developers who can not sale apps because they don't meet certian requirements that apple puts in place.

First of all jailbreaking has been ruled as perfectly legal and has nothing to do with software piracy. Jailbreaking is simply a means of gaining root acsess to the file system so that an alternate app store can be installed (cydia).

Cydia allows developers who can not sale their apps on the official app store a place to do buisness. Most of the hackers involved in jailbreaking are completely againsted software piracy... There actualy is a good reason for hackers to spend time jailbreaking.... They can sale apps apps that they develop on cydia.

I have personly spent more money on cydia apps then I have on app store apps... There are a lot of cool apps that add a lot of functionality to the devices.... In fact most of what iOS devices have today came from the jailbreak screen.... The first app market (installer) came from jailbreaking.

It's obvious that apple looks at what people use on jailbroken devices and often times implement the features... Apps, backgrounding, mms, notifications, multitasking..... Were all on jailbroken iPhones first..

So stop associating jailbreaking with ilegal activity.... It's not... The only reason apple even cares is because they don't want to have to deal with support problems related to porley written software... And that is understandable. They also want a cut of the apps sold witch they don't get from cydia.

Jailbreaking just makes portable devises more like computers. If you think that jailbreaking is the cause of piracy.... Then you should also agree that Microsoft and apple are the cause of piracy on computers by allowing root acsess to the file system and not saling software exclusively through their own online store..

I don't think directv has a problem with jailbreaking itself... They are just worried about somone making an app that could capture video.. That is understandable as well because then they have the mpaa and everyone else coming down on them...

My suggestion to directv is to go the encryption rout.... Because they aren't going to win the the cat and mouse game of jailbreak detection. They made dirctv2pc work... It shouldn't be any different...

Sheesh

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JB is not equivalent to piracy, it is just an alternative ecosystem for apps "." What others choose to do on a JB device is their business.

Along with the nevermentioned purpose of jailbreaking . . . sharing paid apps.

Sharing paid apps is not the purpose of jailbreaking.

The purpose of jail breaking is to gain access to the file system (Just like you have on your computer).

There are different reasons for wanting access to the file system.. The number 1 reason that people jailbreak their iPhone is for the purpose of installing Cydia.

Cydia is an alternative app store that legally sales apps that apple will not not sale in their own app store... why is this so hard to understand?

There are people who pirate software on apple devices.. they are the same people who pirate software on mac and pc...... So why do you choose to single out jail breaking devices?

So let me ask. Do you think it would be good for Microsoft and Apple to take away your ability to acsess the file system on your computer? wouldn't it be better if all software developers had to sale their software in the microsoft or apple app stores and pay them 30%.... with no other alternative? I mean the main reson that people want access to their file system is so they can pirate software right??

Wrong.. that is ridiculous... and that is why jail breaking was ruled as being legal.

If you have a problem with software piracy (which I would fully agree with you on) then why don't you go after the software pirates... they are the problem, not people who jailbreak their phones.

I know a lot of people who have jailbroken phones and none of them have pirated software. its wrong to label jailbreakers. I jailbreak my iPhone and I'm proud of it... my iPhone can do a lot of cool things that non jailbroken iPhones can't do.

While we are at it why don't we blame people who leave their cars unlocked for car robberies... no need to blame the robbers... leaving your car unlocked is the problem... right?

The number 1 reason that people jailbreak their iPhone is for the purpose of installing Cydia.

Do you have statistics to back up this claim? I know many honest people jailbreak for Cydia but I'm sure many others do it to pirate software. You just can't ignore it. I get skeptical when people say the most users jailbreak just to use Cydia.

Do you have statistics to back up this claim? I know many honest people jailbreak for Cydia but I'm sure many others do it to pirate software. You just can't ignore it. I get skeptical when people say the most users jailbreak just to use Cydia.

Just curious. Are there statistics to say the number 1 reason people jailbreak is to pirate software? I get skeptical when people say the most users jailbreak just to pirate software.