I have xwinder versions 1.53, 1.55, 1.58, and 1.60 for Linux, Mac, and Windows (with and without java). I would be more than happy to provide them so that they can be available on this site if someone would be so kind as to tell me where and how to do this.

Thanks Theo! We're not ready to accept uploads yet, so please hang on to those files and this forum. We'll announce when uploads can take place. As things look right now it might take a week or so, as I don't have much spare time. But it would be around this page: index.php?title=Download_area

Alright, the Linux Drivers With Java are over 50MB, should I compress them and post them if I can get them under 30MB? Also, for all other drivers (already under 30MB), should I still compress, or just post the file? Finally, if compressing, for Linux and Mac, what archive format should I use?

50 megs in one file? Wow.
Well, no problem, I have now removed the upload limit completely.
But people still need to download it again, so the smallest possible filesize = compressing the files would be a good idea anyway.

Alright, RARs it is for Linux. That cuts the bin file down by a fair chunk. Mac stuff is already zipped and the PC exe files are already as compressed as they are going to get (making a rar didn't save a MB at best compression). I'll start uploading a file at a time as have time.

When I try to upload the files using IE, I get the typical "The page cannot be displayed" error after some amount of time, and the upload never happens. I noticed that the help file says:
It's not recommended to upload files greater than a few hundred K through a browser. Large files can be extremely slow-loading, and often time out. Use an FTP site for large file uploads.
So is there a way to FTP with/to wiki, or is it saying that they should be FTP'd the way a normal Webmaster would FTP them?

The00Dustin wrote:I get the typical "The page cannot be displayed" error after some amount of time. ... So is there a way to FTP with/to wiki ...?

I don't have open (anonymous) FTP access to the server, and I'm not much for disclosing my own server account login here Why did FW create such huge files to start with?... Ideas would be appreciated, folks.

Do you really need to upload the versions with the Java VM? Most people have Java installed on thier machine, so you'll save a lot of disk space and bandwidth by putting up the non Java versions, if you have them.

As for *nix compression, Tar and gZipping or bZipping them is one of the most common methods. I can get the unix version from the site once you've put it up and re-zip and re-upload from my solaris box if you want?

Yeah, I tried with and without java, I figured I would just upoad all the versions I have with and without, if space becomes a concern, we can always delete some of them later. I had to use the one with java on a machne that had three versions of java installed already becaue they were installed by Oracle and not recognized by the Fingerworks installer, so it wouldn't even try to install and let me point at the java location. It seems like I had to do the same when java was nstalled by the Fingerworks installer, but it has been a while, so I don't remember. Even the smallest driver file I had failed, but since ivanw had trouble with a 12kb file, maybe we'll figure something out yet. I would be fine with you downloading, re-archiving, and re-uploading the *nix versions, notmatt, and then the archives I made could be deleted. Does anyone have a good way for me to get them to Torben so that he can ftp them up?

Dustin: You could email them to me at mattrm@gmail.com and I can put them up on my website for download. I can give you a gmail account for transferring files if you don't already have one. I already have the linux, amc and windows version 1.60 files from the FW website.

I think we don't need to bother with the Java VM version tbh. I'd be surprised if the programs don't work under the standard JVM produced by sun. Give people a link to that if they don't already have it on thier machine.

ivanw: I'm afraid I'm not up to creating a new version of the installer which will properly deploy the JVM etc. My experience of creating program installers starts and ends with self extracting zip files If you think you can do it then you probably should.

Random thought: if FW are really totally dead then do we maybe want to think about de-compiling the x-winder programs so we can do some tinkering?