but the prices they charged were soooooooo low that i couldn't complain. i could never have been able to do any of that work if i had to pay real rates.

so, i just learned to use the bad printing to my advantage. in fact i built a career on shitty printing.

i don't think my printers ever once came close to ever macthing my color calls. usually, i was lucky to get them to match the black correctly - i actually had black come back as green and red and blue a couple of times. but it was cheap, and that was all that mattered to my clients.

richie - the problem here is that in the past, i never get to hire incredibly talented and knowledgable screeners like you. whenever i tried to print on any sort of darker material, it would show through - largely because the printer used the wrong inks. all those posters i did on vinyl and velveteen and wallpaper samples and chipboard and even other folks posters have images and paper color ghosting through.

back in the golden age (when i was screenprinting myself back in the 1970's) white and other light colors had wonderful opacity and would cancel out anything you printed on top of. but the inks my printers have used for the past ten plus years are as thin as piss.

i had no intention of doing a "beatdown" or whatever. i just had this awful image in my head of folks trying to print pink on black paper and doing hit after hit after hit and never getting it to sit up. been there. sux.