With the division, I don't think we'll agree to send a pick for Washington this year. From what I understand, they're trying to ship him and a pick for a 5th rounder. So, to me, it seems there isn't much interest there._________________
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With the division, I don't think we'll agree to send a pick for Washington this year. From what I understand, they're trying to ship him and a pick for a 5th rounder. So, to me, it seems there isn't much interest there.

Him and a future seventh for a fifth. Which is the exact same value as our proposed trade with you guys.

We're going to be shooting for a 90 man roster so we wouldn't be giving up on anyone. I'm pretty sure pass rusher was considered one of our biggest needs coming into this thing. I understand Mincey was worth adding but does that fill the need? All of the guys listed have considerable upside. We're not gonna scare any QBs with the current depth chart. Outside of TE I'd still list pass rusher as our biggest need.

Five of the six guys on our DE depth chart wouldn't make many rosters.

But we have some depth holes to fill else where and some serious points that need competition. FS, TE, MLB, WR, OG, would all trump a DE at this point. Especially because none of the guys jump off the page._________________

But we have some depth holes to fill else where and some serious points that need competition. FS, TE, MLB, WR, OG, would all trump a DE at this point. Especially because none of the guys jump off the page.

None?

I think we need more depth everywhere.

If none of the listed players interest you who does?

I'm not saying we need to take a pass rusher here, I'm presenting options of good players at positions we need. We need a lot.

But we have some depth holes to fill else where and some serious points that need competition. FS, TE, MLB, WR, OG, would all trump a DE at this point. Especially because none of the guys jump off the page.

None?

I think we need more depth everywhere.

If none of the listed players interest you who does?

I'm not saying we need to take a pass rusher here, I'm presenting options of good players at positions we need. We need a lot.

I've got to agree with Darth on this. As I mentioned before, this is the 6th round and these guys are just prospects who MIGHT be able to play well eventually. I disagree with your earlier statement that 5 of our 6 DEs wouldn't make most rosters; I think Houston, Mincey, Hunter, and probably Carter would. Sure I'd like more pass rush, but the guys you mention aren't going to do that better than our top four guys at the position.

I know we are going for a 90 man roster, but I think it would be good to see where our projected 53 stand at this point so we don't use our limited remaining picks in areas where we're okay:

Total specialists = 3
Red = must upgrade, blue = would be nice to upgrade

Actually, it would be nice to upgrade everybody, but we have limited resources this year. I think we need to get a TE, a WR, and an OG/OT. I could accept the guys in blue because they fill the fringe positions: the 9th DL (most 4-3 teams carry only eight), 6th LB, backup FB; if improved, okay, if not, not a problem. So I would use the three 6ths on a TE, WR, and OL, and fill in the rest of the 90-man roster with UDFAs.

None of the players we pick up from here on are going to compete for starting positions, with the exception of the TE. Most will be lucky to make the roster. That's why I can't see why we're passing up a starting WR for one of those guys.

Like I said before, I think we should pick at #172 today (Id like to add one of the tight ends) and then see what's at #176. If there isn't someone we can can agree on, then we see if we want to send it for Washington. They've got nothing, they're trying to sell him for whatever they can get. I don't particularly care about getting him. Pick at #176, trade it for Washington, all the same to me._________________
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SDRF I totally missed your post. I didn't mean to ignore that you wanted to go Wagner. I'm fine with any of the players discussed. I gotta go to work too. I think this pick is gonna be yours to make SDRF.