jabs are a bit more painful and more frequent but I got used to them now. It seems to go well with winny which I started nearly 3 weeks ago. Weight went down after starting winny but definition improved so lost some water I guess. Since winny started I seem to have got carbohydrate craving a bit.

jabs are a bit more painful and more frequent but I got used to them now. It seems to go well with winny which I started nearly 3 weeks ago. Weight went down after starting winny but definition improved so lost some water I guess. Since winny started I seem to have got carbohydrate craving a bit.

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ORIGINAL: heats1nk

tomorrow will be 7 weeks since i started 75 eod and I think it is brilliant. No high blood pressure no bloat strength gone right up no kidney pain/problems

Deca is good but bp went up and lots of bloat.

This is first time with tren so cant comment on recovery yet.

I look forward to hearing about your recovery, I hope it goes well, are you considering running HCG before you PCT?

ORIGINAL: volatile [I look forward to hearing about your recovery, I hope it goes well, are you considering running HCG before you PCT?

erm.... I've got 2 boxes of the stuff in the fridge, truth is I dont know if I will yet. Nuts are still same size as ever.

I used it once before coz everyone was saying its a good idea but luckily enough have never had a problem with recovery even after deca. I used it with one deca cycle but couldn't see any difference from when I didnt use it.

The only thing I will probably do is continue to run testE for 3 weeks after the tren has finished to get the tren out of the system first, then do nolva & clomid.

I think most people ive heard talk about tren > deca saying that tren is less suppresive on recovery, low sides, and great gains,

I think tren is actualy more suppresive, the stuff is pure androgen. However with Acetate in particular recovery seems an easier affair as only a few days after the last jab you are truly OFF! As we all know its quite the opposite with Deca.

It gose without saying that tren comes out on top as far as quality gains are concerned........ Its the BEAU-LOCKS