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A fellow Zendrummer asked for my help to get some answers to some of his questions. I thought I would post his questions for others to see and maybe help. I answered the best I could but I know there are others that use the TD-20 that may be able to help more than I. Can someone step up and help him. thanks Thumper

Dear Mike:

This is Marc. A while ago Dave from Zendrum Corp asked you if you could help me with some Zendrum issues and you graciously offered to help me with some questions regarding setting up the Zendrum with my TD-20 drum modual. I have a couple of questions setting up the Zendrum with the TD-20. If its easier to call me or have me call you rather than use e-mail let me know. My cell phone is (239) and I can call you back immeidaely if you want to avoid any long distance charges. I appreciate your help and want to make it as convenient for you as possible.

1. I set up the Hi-hat pedal (i had an old PD-7 pedal) and it works fine to open and close the hi-hat but I cannot get the click sound when I step on the pedal. You know the sound when the two cymbals close. I can only open or close the sound with the pedal when I hit it with my hand. Is it possible to do this with my PD-7 pedal? If not could I do this with a different kind of pedal (like the trap kat pedal) that has two inputs?

2. To avoid the "machine gun" sound on the snare to you program two snares and slightly change the pitch on one? Do you program one snare and a rim?

3. Do you know how to set up a drag for the snare? (where you hit it once and it sounds like a roll).

4. I was trying to play around with some other sounds and I notice that on the lower Midi channels like channel 3 and 4 they have bass sounds and keyboard sounds. Do you know the midi numbers that would get me all the notes i needed in the scale? Do I need to set this up in Memory bank one, two, three etc... instead of memory bank 16?

5. Can I set it up where each time I tap the pad it plays a different note so that I can set up the note sequence ahead of time? If so do you know how to do this?

6. If you have any bass, percussion or melodic instruments set up with your TD-20 would you be willing to share your mapping and midi numbers you use with me?

I just saw this on the v-drum site. The eTrigger. It might be a use for us? Has anybody seen this before? Check it out and let us know what you think. Thumper

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The eTrigger Idea:

Processing the raw MIDI signals from your drum module, or MIDI device to get a more realistic sounding outputExtra features for your electronic drums so you can tweak each and every little detailMIDI data monitoring and visual meters to get a fine tuned outputUp to 300 Channels of MIDI processingeTrigger can process up to 300 individual MIDI triggers with complete input and output re mapping. Each channel strip consists of multiple controls and options for processing the MIDI input signals.

Audio trigger to midi conversionTrigger to Midi modules can be expensive. eTrigger has a built in Audio to Midi Trigger processor. You can plug in as many electronic drums as your sound card can support. The more inputs your sound interface has, the more triggers you can plug in.

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Hi everyone I am trying to use my TD-20 for my drum sounds and have my SPD-20 for my percussion sounds. Both are set to channel 10. I have linked them like this. Zen drum to midi in of the TD-20, midi out from the TD-20 to midi in of the SPD-20. I have my audio out coming from the TD-20 to my mixer.

My Question is can I get the sound of the SPD-20 thru the TD-20 to my mixer this way or do I also have to take the audio out of the SPD-20.

I have gotten the audio out of the SPD-20 to the mix in of the TD-20 , but I would like to know if this can be accomplished thru the midi connections and not having to hook up another set of wires. I think I must be missing a setting somewhere so if anyone can help I would appreciate it. Thanks Thumper

Does anyone use or have some feedback on using this firewire interface? It is supposed to be used with a mac computer and software written for garageband and logic. Would this be a good one to purchase or would something like a motu ultralite be better? Thanks Thumper

There is a good review of the ZAP in the June 2008 issue of Electronic Musician page 98-101. You may be able to see it online at emusician.com if you are interested. Congratulations David. Hope you get a lot of orders. Thumper

Hi Y'all. I posted a pic of my ZENDRUM/BOSE SETUP on the Bose forum under The Most Compact of All Electronic Drum Kits. Stirred up a little interest for David. I hope it translates into some sales for you! Now one of the only things smaller would be a ZAP! One of the guys Michael posted a link to you David. Hope you are doing well. Thumper

Is there a chart that would take , say midi note # 34 and it be mapped to piano key note g# second octave or whatever that note would be ? It would be helpful if this was done for midi notes 1 -127. I seem to remember seeing this before but cannot put my finger on it now. I know in battery 3 it has piano key notes listed on the cell page for the different sounds but not midi note # however there is a learn function that is handy. thumper

I ordered my custom wood curlyflame maple with figured Cherry March 23rd and it came to my door Today, It is beautiful. David you guys rock. Thanks for getting it to me so quickly. Now the fun part. i have already hooked it up to my Roland SPD-20 and have gotten it to sound off. The triggers are very responsive. i know I will be asking several questions to the forum and hope that I can get up and running quick and easy. Any help will be greatly appreciated Thumper

This is not really a technical question but thru the years of playing i have seen many guitars that have been played that the back of them get scratched with belt buckles . What methods do you use to protect the back of the zendrum thumper