You are perfectly entitled to post stats including a player who left the tribe, made no effort to defend his account and would not pass over his account sit. I do not blame the player for this either. BiP used tactics to expose this players account. They also had the usual declaration advantage.

I am simply posting in-game war stats post declaration of villages that were actually defended by TEA. This also gives some insight into the amount of ODA/ODD per cap.

You are perfectly entitled to post stats including a player who left the tribe, made no effort to defend his account and would not pass over his account sit. I do not blame the player for this either. BiP used tactics to expose this players account. They also had the usual declaration advantage.

I am simply posting in-game war stats post declaration of villages that were actually defended by TEA. This also gives some insight into the amount of ODA/ODD per cap.

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Lul, so asking a front line player to send their defense elsewhere and them refusing to is their fault knowing they are on the front lines with the rank 2 tribe? I don't blame them for not sending, but don't lie to yourself that he "left" without "defending" his villages. You stacked the wrong villages and he paid for it. Nothing of what I posted was to degrade TEA. The fact is he was still in the tribe when the ops had begun and the fact he was out of the tribe while trains/nukes were in route means he should still be included in the war stats.

I've already explained that there was nothing we could do to defend the account as we were given zero information about the attacks. Sure BiP would have capped some more even if he stayed in the tribe but it definitely would have been limited. Anyway, not to worry. We're 107 caps down - better start catching up

I've already explained that there was nothing we could do to defend the account as we were given zero information about the attacks. Sure BiP would have capped some more even if he stayed in the tribe but it definitely would have been limited. Anyway, not to worry. We're 107 caps down - better start catching up

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Not our fault you are making misstakes we capitalize on. I would tell you what these are, but i'm not sure you gotten it yet & i still got nobles to be used.

I know, BiP played Tea. Tea tried to recruit ragnar, me and kreiz +1. They actually believed that, is that our fault we used a counter tactic? I would say that was an Anti Tea attack that was preformed, and now we are blamed for playing alittle dirty? ^^

I've already explained that there was nothing we could do to defend the account as we were given zero information about the attacks. Sure BiP would have capped some more even if he stayed in the tribe but it definitely would have been limited. Anyway, not to worry. We're 107 caps down - better start catching up

Not our fault you are making misstakes we capitalize on. I would tell you what these are, but i'm not sure you gotten it yet & i still got nobles to be used.

I know, BiP played Tea. Tea tried to recruit ragnar, me and kreiz +1. They actually believed that, is that our fault we used a counter tactic? I would say that was an Anti Tea attack that was preformed, and now we are blamed for playing alittle dirty? ^^

Jake still chocking on it?

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I don't think you understand the situation at all. People have been saying that TEA kicks members to save face as well as stats, all that has been said is that x player left as opposed to being kicked. But ofc you love making things about yourself, trying hard to stay relevant huh?

TEA spent months talking about how C9 and BiP would merge so at what point are you guys going to start using facts instead of making up stories? It gets old when you repeat the same story all world..

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Because it was so crazy to suggest that you guys would merge? BiP couldn't take you because they had to make space for 2Hard. You guys merging is a very likely outcome. That or Infamy just pull their friends from BiP and make them crumble that way. Two strong possibilities. Would you not agree?

Because it was so crazy to suggest that you guys would merge? BiP couldn't take you because they had to make space for 2Hard. You guys merging is a very likely outcome. That or Infamy just pull their friends from BiP and make them crumble that way. Two strong possibilities. Would you not agree?

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You have all the answers. I am sure it will go down exactly the way you say.

* 2Hard was not a weak tribe, BiP will tell you that. We were just put in a difficult position, surrounded by enemies & non wanting to work with us. You tell me anyone else would have done so much better when frontlining everywhere. Even our damn allies went against us. Yes, 2Hard declared war on Tea - But tea had already launched their op on us, we knew it was over if hardnutz left. We simply wanted to see where we stood - Who would stay and who would run. & in all honesty, we had hoped infamy would help us.

We played to win, not to come second place. That is what i call showing balls, and no it doesn't always work out.

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lol, yes... rather than accept the possibility that you might come 2nd, you attempted to deliberately balk TEA's growth by mass recruiting from WET in mid December. Sabotaging and pissing off your allies, the rank 1 tribe, while you were already losing ground in a war with the rank 2 tribe is "playing to win"?

Considering you guys were happy to screw over both your allies and the tribe you were leading rather than risk 2nd place, it'd be a fair assumption that if things start going downhill you'll even more happily screw over the tribe which recruited you under duress. The leaders of BiP know this of course, and for their part they have shown themselves happy to merge with their enemies rather than honour their alliance with Defy and outperform TEA in their nobling of 2HARD. It looks like a union of desperation more than anything - and perhaps of necessity it will hold up - but with precious little trust or honour in either half of BiP it'll be interesting to see whether the ex-2HARD members wait to get screwed when the moment is right, or take the initiative themselves.

Not our fault you are making misstakes we capitalize on. I would tell you what these are, but i'm not sure you gotten it yet & i still got nobles to be used.

I know, BiP played Tea. Tea tried to recruit ragnar, me and kreiz +1. They actually believed that, is that our fault we used a counter tactic? I would say that was an Anti Tea attack that was preformed, and now we are blamed for playing alittle dirty? ^^

Jake still chocking on it?

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Did they seriously belive Kreiz would leave? A player that has been a part of the tribe since day .1, a guy that has played several worlds with KB? I thought you were just joking when you said Kreiz