It will be oh no...we really meant 2013...then 2013 will comes and go and it will be...oh now we really meant 2014...then 2014 will comes and go and it will be...oh now we really meant 2015...then 2015 will comes and go and it will be...oh now we really meant 2020...

and on and on and on and on and on...

SEEK HELP

Clearly you are suffering from paranoid delusions.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29603155

People might continue with new dates, I don't know, but the 23rd isn't anything new. Nearly a decade ago I heard about this, and even then there was discussion about whether it was the 21st or the 23rd. There are a few links in this thread that point to the 23rd, and the OP started this thread before the 21st, so it wasn't written after "all was well" on 21 Dec.. Hold the gloating off a few more days, you're wasting your energy doing it now.

Introduced in the House as H.R. 7837 by Carter Glass (D-VA) on August 29, 1913 Committee consideration by: House Banking, Senate Banking Passed the House on September 18, 1913 (287–85, 5 Present) Passed the Senate on December 18, 1913 (54–34) Reported by the joint conference committee on December 22, 1913; agreed to by the House on December 22, 1913 (298–60) and by the Senate on December 23, 1913 (43–25) Signed into law by President Woodrow Wilson on December 23, 1913

The end date is supposedly either December 21 or 23, 2012. Doomsday authors point to December 21, the winter solstice. But the Mayan calendar, on which the end-of-days theory is based, ends December 23.

Source of Belief

The Mayan “Long Count” calendar tracks “Great Cycles” of time, and is one of at least three calendars that the ancient Mayans used. It is important to note that one particular calendar indicates that December 23, 2012, is the end of the current cycle of time—which began August 13, 3114 BC, on the Gregorian calendar. The Mayan calendar itself states nothing of the world coming to an end, or of any cataclysmic events occurring. It states only that the current time cycle will end.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15257059

sounding like some same old christian may 21st bullshit shut the fuck up

anyone consider that when Cortez finally conquered the Mayans, the long form calendar project came to a grinding halt? And then sickened with plague they may have finished the last tablet and then stopped working?

anyone consider that when Cortez finally conquered the Mayans, the long form calendar project came to a grinding halt? And then sickened with plague they may have finished the last tablet and then stopped working?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29117977

have you considered their calendar already had 12 baktuun and 4 world destructions ?

"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26

Well you are all wrong. The cycle ended in 1988. If this "expert" really understood, she would see that:1. The date 4 ahau 3 kankin can only occur once every 52 solar years.2. That the date Kankin happens in April, the driest season in the Yucatan, thus the name Kankin (yellow or old sun).3. That the only solar year that this date can happen in is the year 2 etznab, which last occurred in 1988 and won't happen again until 2040.4. That it's easy to date the solar year because we know for a historic fact that Cortes arrived in 1518/19 which was documented as the year 1 Ben in Maya lands and 1 Acatl in Aztec lands. This is significant because the only reason they didn't kill Cortes and his men on sight was that they believed he could be Quetzalcoatl, since the year in course was the same year he was supposed to return5. That the year 2 etznab, the only year where the date 4 ahau 3 kankin - the cycle end date can occur is the year following 1 Ben, which means that if the cycle didn't end in 1988 (it did, the ceremony was held by the very few that still keep the time records in secret) it can't happen until 2040.

You have all been fooled by people that know nothing. Also, the so called evidence is just the interpretation of a so called expert. The stone itself obviously didn't give a gregorian calendar date.

"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26

Well you are all wrong. The cycle ended in 1988. If this "expert" really understood, she would see that:1. The date 4 ahau 3 kankin can only occur once every 52 solar years.2. That the date Kankin happens in April, the driest season in the Yucatan, thus the name Kankin (yellow or old sun).3. That the only solar year that this date can happen in is the year 2 etznab, which last occurred in 1988 and won't happen again until 2040.4. That it's easy to date the solar year because we know for a historic fact that Cortes arrived in 1518/19 which was documented as the year 1 Ben in Maya lands and 1 Acatl in Aztec lands. This is significant because the only reason they didn't kill Cortes and his men on sight was that they believed he could be Quetzalcoatl, since the year in course was the same year he was supposed to return5. That the year 2 etznab, the only year where the date 4 ahau 3 kankin - the cycle end date can occur is the year following 1 Ben, which means that if the cycle didn't end in 1988 (it did, the ceremony was held by the very few that still keep the time records in secret) it can't happen until 2040.

You have all been fooled by people that know nothing. Also, the so called evidence is just the interpretation of a so called expert. The stone itself obviously didn't give a gregorian calendar date.

"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26

Well you are all wrong. The cycle ended in 1988. If this "expert" really understood, she would see that:1. The date 4 ahau 3 kankin can only occur once every 52 solar years.2. That the date Kankin happens in April, the driest season in the Yucatan, thus the name Kankin (yellow or old sun).3. That the only solar year that this date can happen in is the year 2 etznab, which last occurred in 1988 and won't happen again until 2040.4. That it's easy to date the solar year because we know for a historic fact that Cortes arrived in 1518/19 which was documented as the year 1 Ben in Maya lands and 1 Acatl in Aztec lands. This is significant because the only reason they didn't kill Cortes and his men on sight was that they believed he could be Quetzalcoatl, since the year in course was the same year he was supposed to return5. That the year 2 etznab, the only year where the date 4 ahau 3 kankin - the cycle end date can occur is the year following 1 Ben, which means that if the cycle didn't end in 1988 (it did, the ceremony was held by the very few that still keep the time records in secret) it can't happen until 2040.

You have all been fooled by people that know nothing. Also, the so called evidence is just the interpretation of a so called expert. The stone itself obviously didn't give a gregorian calendar date.

"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26

The end date is supposedly either December 21 or 23, 2012. Doomsday authors point to December 21, the winter solstice. But the Mayan calendar, on which the end-of-days theory is based, ends December 23.

Source of Belief

The Mayan “Long Count” calendar tracks “Great Cycles” of time, and is one of at least three calendars that the ancient Mayans used. It is important to note that one particular calendar indicates that December 23, 2012, is the end of the current cycle of time—which began August 13, 3114 BC, on the Gregorian calendar. The Mayan calendar itself states nothing of the world coming to an end, or of any cataclysmic events occurring. It states only that the current time cycle will end.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15257059

So, I'm watching 'The Shining' movie... Danny foresees the blood gushing from the 2 elevators. The left elevator shows to be on floor #2 and the right elevator shows to be on floor #3.

Well you are all wrong. The cycle ended in 1988. If this "expert" really understood, she would see that:1. The date 4 ahau 3 kankin can only occur once every 52 solar years.2. That the date Kankin happens in April, the driest season in the Yucatan, thus the name Kankin (yellow or old sun).3. That the only solar year that this date can happen in is the year 2 etznab, which last occurred in 1988 and won't happen again until 2040.4. That it's easy to date the solar year because we know for a historic fact that Cortes arrived in 1518/19 which was documented as the year 1 Ben in Maya lands and 1 Acatl in Aztec lands. This is significant because the only reason they didn't kill Cortes and his men on sight was that they believed he could be Quetzalcoatl, since the year in course was the same year he was supposed to return5. That the year 2 etznab, the only year where the date 4 ahau 3 kankin - the cycle end date can occur is the year following 1 Ben, which means that if the cycle didn't end in 1988 (it did, the ceremony was held by the very few that still keep the time records in secret) it can't happen until 2040.

You have all been fooled by people that know nothing. Also, the so called evidence is just the interpretation of a so called expert. The stone itself obviously didn't give a gregorian calendar date.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10422385

What about this that someone said in another thread?

Quoting: Veresanctus

Quoting: Veresanctus

ANYONE?!

Quoting: Veresanctus

i call B.S, the AC dude clamis to me more knowledgeable than every mayan scholar out there...