116 thoughts on “Meet Diigo Outliner – the best way to structurally organize your information and thoughts”

I’ve been working with WorkFlowy and Fargo for a while. Outliner concept is great for notes, but Diigo can’t be primary note-taking app while there are so poor apps for mobile platforms. When I think about notes, I want to have access to them anytime, any place.

So it’s replacing lists? Too bad that lists are being deprecated. Not that I was using them much, but forcing such changes can have unexpected consequences.
Is there mobile support for outlines? Haven’t found the optimal solution for mobile outlining. In this case, it might help a bit.
Actually, the most useful part of this feature might be the “Add Diigo Item” sidebar. Wish something like this existed in blogwriting tools and platforms. Would make things much easier.

I watched the video and read this page, but I don’t really understand this. Does the fact that some items in the sample outline are blue have any significance? What about the numbers in the yellow squares?

How does Diigo Outliner really work? Does it automatically add headings like “Lecture x,” where “x” is the number of the lecture, when things are added to a particular level? Does it automatically renumber “x” when things are moved around? What is the relationship between items in the outline and items in one’s Diigo library? Etc.

What is the advantage of Diigo Outline over other outlining applications on the Web that allow links as items in outlines (e.g. Evernote)? For that matter, what are the advantages over low-capability outlining, like that in Microsoft Word or OpenOffice.org?

Finally, can Diigo Outline be used for nonlinear organization of material, such as in concept maps? For example, Zotero is well integrated with the Web and automatically produces citations and references; for organization it has folders, tags, and saves searches as virtual folders; it also has notes; but it also integrates with Vue (Visual Understanding Environment), an open source concept and content mapping program from Tufts.

I’m not trying to be difficult, but something that is “the best way to structurally organize your information and thoughts” is very enticing. I’m just trying to figure exactly what justifies this claim.

I watched the video and read this page, but I don’t really understand this. Does the fact that some items in the sample outline are blue have any significance? What about the numbers in the yellow squares?

Blue items are your bookmarks/notes. Basically, you can use outliner to organize items in your diigo library. The numbers in the yellow squares stand for annotation number. You can even convert annotations to sub-bullet points.

How does Diigo Outliner really work? Does it automatically add headings like “Lecture x,” where “x” is the number of the lecture, when things are added to a particular level? Does it automatically renumber “x” when things are moved around? What is the relationship between items in the outline and items in one’s Diigo library? Etc.

Please install the latest Diigo chrome extension, then, add bookmark from chrome extension to an outliner, organize bookmarks in the outliner, that’s the typical use case.

What is the advantage of Diigo Outline over other outlining applications on the Web that allow links as items in outlines (e.g. Evernote)? For that matter, what are the advantages over low-capability outlining, like that in Microsoft Word or OpenOffice.org?
It combines information collecting and organizing.

Finally, can Diigo Outline be used for nonlinear organization of material, such as in concept maps? For example, Zotero is well integrated with the Web and automatically produces citations and references; for organization it has folders, tags, and saves searches as virtual folders; it also has notes; but it also integrates with Vue (Visual Understanding Environment), an open source concept and content mapping program from Tufts.

We think the tree structure in the outliner is better than mindmap when you want to organize bookmarks.

1. The first option is show/hide Diigo toolbar. Is that the most important feature of Diigo?
2. No easy way to mark a page as read-it-later. Click “Bookmark this page” then check read later then save. Something that can be done with single-click.
3. Please drop the toolbar and sidebar. It is 2014.
4. When you open My library(Web), it opens in the same tab. You lose your data like I am typing this comment and if I open my library it will just open here.
5. Annotating is not on-par with Chrome.
6. Options are way too complex.

I want to second the concern about suppressing the list function. I’m a teacher whose students are in the middle of a research project using Diigo. I need an efficient way to grade their research individually, so emailing the Diigo list permalink has always been my solution.

I’ve experimented with other approaches to accessing students’ research, such as groups, but grading is virtually impossible from any other approach, since I have between 100-180 students working on any given research assignment at one time–all with different topics.

Suppressing the list function has caused havoc in my AP classes that have research due Monday. How am I going to grade this assignment. Ugh. >_<

As for Outliers, I hope that this new function will make Diigo an even stronger tool for students and researchers, one that the company will find profitable. I know that I will definitely look for ways to use it in my classes; however, don't take away our list function!

The first two seem contradictory. Can you clarify what is premium and what is free? If it’s a premium feature but we upgrade our existing lists for free, does that mean we can’t create any more outliners with the free subscription? Do we have the option of returning to the lists?

Please don’t make this a repeat of the Delicious!Fail of years ago, which is how I found diigo…

1）You can upgrade all your existing list to outliner for free
2）Free users can create 5 new outliners
3）Since there is a zoom in feature, 5 free outliners are almost equal to many lists. Check it here http://help.diigo.com/my-outliners-tutorials

You have a lot to learn about ui. I am feeling really frustrated right now. I use diigo many times every day. I use lists (and I’m hearing that at least one person’s list has disappeared.) And I do not understand how to upgrade my 16 lists to outliners.

Now I read that you’re not sure about the mobile experience? That’s the main way I use diigo — so I can do my research on the fly whenever I’m between meetings. I wouldn’t mind paying for a premium edition, but not if I’m actually going to be losing the functionality that’s most important to me.

@Bibilio
1）I am sorry there is no send to feature for individual items. However, You can share entire outliner. There are many ways to send a link or note, so we don’t include this feature in the outliner.

Just beginning to experiment with outliners and I have to say…thank you for doing this! For my purposes, so far, I think I’ll be able to combine my use of Diigo and Workflowy into just Diigo. I’d been needing the chance to save bookmarks into an outline quickly and easily, or to see my annotated bookmarks in an outline type view, but to also add other outline notes that we NOT just web links. You seem to have gotten this right!

Glitch: convert description to bullet point description doesn’t seem to work. It comes in as a note, and stays a note. Any highlighted text CAN get converted to bullet points, and the sticky notes on the highlights become notes for those bullet points. But I don’t seem to be able to convert text from the description field from being a note to being a bullet point.

Thanks for the link to the tutorial. But I still don’t get how outlining is supposed to replace the lists, or why it’s not instead being offered as another option. I store bookmarks that fall under a variety of categories, which I’ve made into lists. I have no need to create an outline from any of my bookmarks. Please explain how I’m supposed to use this outliner feature when all I have are bookmarks that I’ve categorized into the lists. No outlining necessary.

That video speaks to us like we’re children. It is really messed up to just remove the list feature and force us to use Outliners. I may have wanted some sort of outlining capability, but not at the expense of lists!!! For me, the lists and their layouts were the most useful thing about Diigo, like they functioned as my inboxes for links to read and annotate or read and delete. I am very disappointed.

NIce to see this fantastic upgrade. Let me write two suggestions. 1.- use tags as first outline level as an optinal feature. 2.- An option to show left aligned thumbnail image. An now a request: what happend with rss lists feeds ?

Thanks for the suggestion. 1) Tags as first outline level. If there are several tags, do you want to put those tags as the first level outline together 2)Got the idea. We will wait to see more votes about this feature. 3)RSS list. We are not quite sure how to support the RSS feed in the outliner, if there are some manually inputed text, should we add it to the feed?

This is definitely a very useful addition – and it’s light years ahead of lists – at least the lists that you had before. I like the idea of having different ways of organising the same information with multiple outliners.

Can I second the motion to improve the mobile apps – android in particular.

This is very helpful. I just finished organizing two months of daily notes into one coherent outline. It took just a few hours, and now I’ll be able to easily maintain this structure whenever I add new notes. It would be even easier, though, if I could save notes to a specific sub-point in my outline. As it is, I’ll have to save the new note to the outline, then go into the outline and place it in the right position. But still, it’s a huge improvement. Thanks!

@Des, It doesn’t work well on iPad now. However, it should work fine if you are using Safari on OSX.
How full-functioned will Diigo highlighting / bookmarking be on Safari OSX + iPad? —->Check Diigo annotator app for iOS we just released.

I mainly search via mobile, bookmark to diigo and read further on laptop. I’ve converted all lists to outline, but now I can’t add new links via mobile. I only can add links via mobile to a list, so the outline with same name gets outdated. Also when creating new lists on mobile, I can’t see them on my laptop.Could you at least update the android app so I can 1) add links to outlines 2) without any user interface stuff. Just add to the end of the outline, so I can manage them later on laptop.
Since I switched to outline (because I like the idea), Diido is now useless for me because I do a lot of work on the mobile…

Is it possible to save a bookmark directly to an outliner? I don’t seem to be able to find much useful information on this new system. (The video didn’t help.) I use firefox exclusively. Is that why I’m not able to utilize features that make it possible to save directly to an outliner the way we used to be able to save to a folder?

I like the idea that eventually this will eventually make our libraries more searchable, but so far it’s making the process of bookmarking clumsy & time consuming, since I have to open diigo, then find what I just bookmarked & then add it to an outliner manually.

Is it possible to bookmark an item directly to an outliner (the way we used to be able to save bookmarks directly to lists)? I use firefox exclusively. Is this why I no longer have that option? I don’t seem to be able to find much information on this new system, is there any out there? (The video didn’t provide any content that I needed, nor did the page that told me what to do once I was inside an outliner.)

I can see that outliners could potentially make it easier to search our libraries for bookmarks, but at the moment the process of having to bookmark a page, then open my library, find the bookmark, then manually add it to an outliner, then open the outliner & manually place the bookmark in the correct category within the outliner is waaay cumbersome! Please tell me there’s an easier way!

I been so impressed by this feature that I have upgrade to your PRO plan. I absolutely love it along with your ipad diigo app for ipad.
You are the number 1 social bookmark company in the world, I just hope you will do a better job marketing your system. I am doing my bit of being a raving fan.

Love the new outliner tool. Is there any plan to allow group collaboration on outlines. either through specific user permissions or group work. potentially with google docs edit, suggestion, and view permission levels.

This is definitely a very useful inclusion – and it’s many decades before details – at least the details that you had before. I like the concept of having different methods of planning the same details with several outliners.

Can I second the movement to enhance the cellular phone applications – android operating system in particular.

Hi, I just found out about the new outliner feature that you introduced. Bravo, it looks great. One problem though: why not introduce annotation as stand-alone elements in the outliner? The current option of converting annotations to sub-points means that once you play around with the annotation in an outline (and therefore put it under a new heading), you have no way of tracing back the source. For any person doing research, this means that time will need to be wasted referencing the source in some way. Any thoughts on this?

Okay, this turned into a much longer post than originally intended. I hope despite that, you’ll take the time to read it anyway. And, if you can find the time to respond, it would be greatly appreciated!

I’ve been using Diigo casually for about a year now as a kind of test drive. Overall, I’ve been loving it…until now that is.

I love it so much, that I was finally all set to take the plunge and upgrade to Standard Premium annual Plan last night when my husband got home from work. (Money being tight, I have to be really careful about every penny.) You see my husband thinks he’s at last found a solution to a problem PayPal has been having with the auto-renewal subscription plans that companies like yours and other online services such as Evernote, have instituted.

But then the rest of the day happened…

I only just discovered yesterday that the List Feature has been *completely* deprecated when I tried to add a couple new bookmarks to one of my Lists, several times. Each time, I did what I’ve always done when adding a bookmark from my Android smartphone:

* I hit the Home button on my phone, which brought up the standard menu of action options. I tapped on Share, then picked Share to Diigo.

* The usual “New Bookmark” window popped up. The URL was at the top, then a space for a Title, and below that were the two ticķbox options where you choose whether to make it a Private or Public Bookmark. At the very bottom was the Description area where I can leave notes as short as a line or two, or as large as several paragraphs.

* I filled everything in and picked the List I wanted the bookmark in, then Saved and Synced it to the Servers. It seemed to work just fine; exactly as it always has. Later I added another bookmark to the same list, and again, no problems that I could see.

Later when I when I opened the Android Diigo app to pull up one of those sites, all my Lists were there as per normal. It *seemed* as though all bookmarks, except the ones I’d added earlier in the day, were there as well. Thinking maybe the Sync had failed, I went back and re-added them, but still they didn’t show up. I made several more attempts before finally noticing the banner near the top of the screen stating that the “List Feature has been deprecated.”

I checked “My Outliners” and sure enough, I now have two Outliners I did *not* deliberately create. Both new bookmarks, as well several other recent additions I hadn’t noticed, never made it into the Lists I’d assigned them to. But they’re all a big mess and look like a blogs tag bubbles, with different words I assume were taken from the Titles, appearing in various sized fonts from really small to really large. I’m sure I’ll be able sort them out *on my laptop* with the guidance the Help Pages and your video, but that’s not the point…

Please understand that I have no problem with new features being introduced into any software I use. BUT, I do object to having the features I like and have been happily using, being “depracted.” Which, if you think about it, is just another way saying, “We took that feature away and are now *forcing* you to use this nifty new feature that we think is even better than the one we just took away!”

Yes, I know their are other services out there that I could use, but:

I like Diigo because:

* I can title the Bookmarks so there not just plain URLs a quick glance can’t identify, and I can Tag them.

* I can add notes, from a few words to several paragraphs. For me, this is a critical ability. Bullet points can be great, but not always. Besides, I have Workflowy for that.

* I like that according to the Help Pages, I can gather and import my hundreds of bookmarks currently scattered on various devices and browsers. Then they’ll finally all be in one location, accessible from any internet connected device. Never again would I need to fear losing a large collection of bookmarks should another of my devices should meet an untimely, sudden death before I had the time and forethought to make a back-up!

* Being a huge Evernote fan, I love the Search ability.

Speaking of Evernote, a number power users on their User Forum, have been recommending Diigo to new forum members for years. In fact, it’s through them that I first heard of, and started using, Diigo in the first place. A very active member there myself, I joined the chorus a several months ago. As you well know, a lot of educators and students use both programs. As do a number of professionals in various fields.

The point being that you are getting a lot of free PR from Evernote users, both online and offline. But remember, it works both ways.

There’s a couple things it appears your company forgot to consider when you decided to deprecate the List Feature. Or maybe you did think of them and just chose to go ahead with deprecating it anyway. Either way, I think it’s a shame if you don’t reconsider. I fear it could cost you a substantial amount of revenue, both now and long into the future. Joel, allow me to explain:

1) As evidenced in just reading this post’s comments, it’s obvious that I’m not the only one very unhappy about this move. If you take a stroll through the comments at the Diigo Forum, you’ll see posts going back several months asking first that Diigo not remove the List Feature after the Outliners were announced, and now protesting that it’s been done anyway.

I understand that the number of people invested enough in Diigo’s use and success, who go to effort of posting about this issue, does not necessarily provide a true reflection of your total number of *paying* users who are unhappy about the List Feature deprecation. I get that many users may choose to either accept it and adapt, or move on to a different service without publicly stating as much. Nevertheless, it *does* provide a mirror of sorts.

2) Another point Diigo should remember, is the already huge and ever-growing number of people who do most, or all, of their computing on mobile devices, especially smartphones.

I am one of those people and use my Android smartphone for 95% of all my computing needs. Many people who use their phones and tablets to do the same, do it because of their work. In my case, it’s because of a progressive neurological disease (MS) that is steadily increasing my rate of physical disability. Because of it’s size and weight, my phone is by far easier than my laptop or tablet to do everything I used to have rely on my PC to accomplish. I can use it to handle scheduling, online research, web surfing, watching video…and so much more.

Even complete office software suites specifically designed for use on smartphones, is becoming the new norm. Cloud storage has made the creation, editing, retrieval and sending of large complex documents and other types of digital data, anytime from anywhere, possible, feasible and affordable. Web bookmarks are part of that structure.

Regardless of why consumers as a whole, are moving away from desktop computing and towards mobile computing, the fact remains that a large and ever-growing percentage are.

As modern smartphones have become nearly as powerful as many of the standard computers currently on the market, the big for consumers is the double duty they perform as a highly portable personal PC and phone. Carrying a light, pocket or purse sized device around everywhere you go, is by far easier than lugging around a laptop, or even the larger tablets. One can now literally carry their office, their entire digital lives, in their pocket!

But one factor providers of online service providers like Diigo, *need* to remember if they want to both keep existing customers, and attract new ones, is screen space. On smartphones and tablets, especially the smaller hybrid tablets like iPads from Apple or android ones like Samsung, Google and others, screen space is at a premium.

The Diigo Outliners are great, but are not, in my opinion, nearly as suitable for small screen use the List Feature.

The Lists, I find, are much more condusive to operating smoothly on my SG3’s 5.5 inch screen.

I ask, along with many others, that you bring back the Lists Feature and give your Users the *choice* to use Lists or Outliners, or better yet, the ability to use BOTH! Let us, the Users, decide what Bookmarks we want to use in both features. Make the choice a Premium only feature if prefer, but let US decide.

Please, Joel, I don’t want to switch services after spending an entire year using, and many hours researching, Diigo!

If you made it though this long post, then please accept my thanks for listening! I hope to hear a reply soon. 😊

I have an extensive collection of lists built over several years that are fairly intuitive to use. Outliners may be a good idea but I do not understand how to use them and do not want to be forced into getting rid of my lists.

Sigh. It would really be great if your company paid attention to users and realized that millions upon millions of people are now using mobile devices like android smartphones to do the bulk of their computing. You *had* the perfect app for this, but then without considering a massive segment of the market, you went ahead and made Outliners the only way to use Diigo…WITHOUT considering those of us using mobile devices!

Please, there is no reason I can think of not to reinstitute the List feature with all of it’s past abilities AND have Outliners as an option. The latter is utterly useless on my phone.

I don’t want to leave Diigo after spending years trying to find a service that met my needs, and I am – for the moment – still hoping you’ll bring back the List Feature so I can upgrade to a Premium Standard account and import all of my bookmarks. I realize you won’t even notice my abscence or the small sum of money my subscription and loyalty would bring you, but I am one of many, many people who could help your company succeed where so many others have failed.

Please please please! Stop fixing what was not broken in the first place!

the number of highlights for free users has been reduced from 1000 to 500.That’s a bit disappointing.Also the diigo outliner does not seem to work properly in older versions of firefox . other than that everything looks fine.will take some time to get used to the new diigo though .

Hi. Want to keep my free account and it looks like I will be limited to 5 outliners in the future. Am understanding that I can create large outliners that contain many levels, so theoretically I could pull smaller outlines into large outlines, yes? But I can’t figure out how to do that without manually copying and pasting, or dragging individual bookmarks into the new list. Any chance we could drag (or copy) one outliner into another? Doesn’t look possible right now, but maybe soon?

1. Are they private or public?
2. In the lists I liked the ability to change bookmarks’ descriptions from the lists, or to change the list entry titles by changing the bookmarks. How can I do that now in outliners?
3. Usually I used to click on a tag under the bookmark in a list to quickly start the tag search. How can I do that now with the outliner?

Dear Comments Moderator. Sorry, I was not aware that my first two comments are redundant. I sent the questions twice, because I did not see my comments appear after the first posting. Of course only one of them is needed🙂

I don’t see much reason I would use the new feature, although I do understand why some users might. And I’m very much going to miss lists, which I used with classes quite regularly. So, like some other users who have commented above, I’m feeling irritated by the decision to “deprecate” (i.e. cease offering without warning) a feature that many users have been making good use of for years. Why can’t both options coexist?

It’s the first time as a Diigo user (since Beta) I’ve experienced the same feeling I had when Google destroyed Reader.

I’ve used Diigo since Beta and this is the first time I’ve felt the same way toward Diigo as I did toward Google when they destroyed Reader.

Lists was a useful, simple function. Many users have been working with it for a long time effectively. To “deprecate” it (i.e. cease to offer or of support it with no warning) in order to push users toward a new product probably responds to some kind of commercial logic. But the new product doesn’t do the same thing, certainly not on all platforms (see comments above). And while I can understand that some users will make good use of the functionality offered by the new feature, I don’t need it, or want it, so I’ve simply lost a feature that I have used effectively for many years with my classes. And the comments above suggest I’m not alone. And this is announced in a patronizing video that explains nothing.

The right thing to do would be continue to support lists. If the new product is amazing enough, it will stand on its own merits.

I’ve been promoting your service in education for years. At the moment, I’m feeling distinctly irritated.

1. in list we can generate report along with annotations, but in ouliners, we need to hover over links one by one and need to expand all before generationg report along with annotations. Is there a way to export in ouliner along with annotations simply as in list ?

Great ! FINALLY ! Actually I had stopped using Diigo – or so – because I thought it was too messy to find information in my huge lists of bookmarks and annotations. I was dreaming of a web service that would organize my notes the way I would in a notebook : with sections, where I can add free text or images below titles or between sections, where I could add hierarchy between the bookmarks inside a section and between different sections. And also where I could search in all of this by tag or full-text search. I’m not sure if Outliner can do all this but it’s definitely a better for Diigo ! Then I could really make web based ressource documents, but it would be more powerful and less difficult to use than a wiki.
However I agree with the above posts that you should not impose Outliner and let each user choose his preferred layout option.
Keep up the good work and please continue to listen to your users !!

I have an extensive collection of lists built over several years that are fairly intuitive to use. Outliners may be a good idea but I do not understand how to use them and do not want to be forced into getting rid of my lists. I don’t want to leave Diigo after spending years trying to find a service that met my needs, and I am – for the moment – still hoping you’ll bring back the List Feature so I can upgrade to a Premium Standard account and import all of my bookmarks.

Hi, I just found out about the new outliner feature that you introduced. Bravo, it looks great. One problem though: why not introduce annotation as stand-alone elements in the outliner? I been so impressed by this feature that I have upgrade to your PRO plan. I absolutely love it along with your ipad diigo app for ipad.http://itinfoworld.com

My ‘outlines’ are not showing in the Firefox Diigo sidebar which I find extremely convenient. I seem to have a double list – bottom links work and list appears minus new bookmarks – is there no way to view outliners in the Firefox sidebar? I keep getting an error that there’s a Diigo server error – my bookmarks are showing up in my Diigo account if I leave my page and login to my main account.
Is there anything like the Diigo Sidebar for Chrome browser?

Can I convert my outlines back to lists – I don’t seem to find any good QandA for Diigo is there such a thing?
I’m Googling and not seeing any thing but additional questions. It doesn’t seem this area is very active not sure where to even look for any information on what possibly is happening.

The help on Diigo is just a manual can’t find a Q and A section – thanks for anyone’s reply.

Hi I use Diigo to orgnaise links for my students. I then used the RSS feed to embed lists of links into my class WIKI. This means that whenever I see a useful article/website, I can save it to the relevant list and my students see it on the relevant page of the WIKI. An example old example is here http://mrbgeographyib.wikispaces.com/3+Flooding

I admit that since the change to outliners I have not used Diigo as much as I have not had time to sit down and work out the system. I also realised that if I add a link to an outliner, it does not link to the rss feed. Is it possible to create rss feeds for outliners and if not, what would you suggest?
Thanks
James (geography teacher)

there is no reason I can think of not to re institute the List feature with all of it’s past abilities AND have Outlines as an option. The latter is utterly useless on my phone.Outliners may be a good idea but I do not understand how to use them and do not want to be forced into getting rid of my lists.

We are working to implement a viewable Outliner form for mobile. Also in the works is an automation of Outliner that only requires that your bookmarks have relevant tags to give your Outliner structure when created. Stay tuned for updates.

I understand the issue you are having, and will go over this issue with the team.
There is no option to convert Outliner back to lists currently, however we are working on ways to improve Outliner and make it easier to use. Stay tuned for updates.

The Lists feature doesn’t have any plans on making a come back, sorry. However, we are working on a method to have Outliner an automated structure, as long as you have relevant tags for your bookmarks. This should make the process of conversion from lists to Outliner much more intuitive, while giving your research structure in the process. Stay tuned for updates.

Sorry you feel that way regarding lists. We are working on improving outliner so that it covers the functions of what users liked about lists. This should be implemented soon, so please stay tuned for udates.

1. They are private unless shared by the creator.
2. You can edit the name of the bookmark in the edit popup menu. You can convert the discription into the outliner with one click and change the discription that gets converted. It won’t affect the original bookmark though.
3. I’ll bring up this issue with the team.

Sadly, the Lists feature has not plans for a come back. However, we are working on methods to cover most of the issues you bring up in your detailed post, including having a viewable mode for mobile. Please stay tuned for updates, as we have big improvements coming overall.

Yes, we are working out the best way to implement a collaborative platform based on Outliner. There are many issues with this though, and as we are a small team, it will take us more work to ensure that all the functions we have planned are working smoothly and intuitively.

As a teacher using lists frequently, i did try making a few outliners for my spring classes. We are only using the free (5 allowed?) version so now I cannot make outliners for other classes; assume this is intentional but I didn’t realize I would be limited so made a couple to try it out and then just shared one with the class! Wish I could reverse the outliners back to lists…no?

Outliner cannot be reverted back to lists. However, as a teacher, you can upgrade to a teacher’s account to increase the amount of free features, such as more Outliners. You may apply for a free educator account here Diigo Plans