I have created a snapshot of everything in the file sharing section of the project which should give you something to read if you are interested.

Do you think that Sun can be fooled so easily ? They have protected you from yourself and us from ourselves a lot better - we also need permissions to view file sharing section.

I think that there is some kind of misunderstanding as far as concepts are concerned. IMHO, we are looking at it as a bit more closed sourceforge, while Sun is looking at it as a very open JCP/JSR. From JCP point of view, all these restrictions make sense - in fact, it is trivially easy to add new people to project (compared to hassle which had to be done with expert group/reviews/etc at JCP).

I was expecting it to go in one of these:games-core Java Games Core Technologiesgames-demos Java Game Demos and Tutorialsgames-forge Java-Based Games, Works in Progress and Other Contentgames-middleware Java Game Engines and Librariesgames-research Advanced Research in Java Game Technologygames-tools Tools for Java Game Development

Specifically games-middleware.

Maybe that is why we can't see it?I'm pretty sure that is it, as the parent games-inbox project is not viewable in the same way.

Your account does not have the "Project Page - View" permission needed for you to access the page you requested in the xith3d project (view your permissions). Either ask the project administrator for more permission, or log in using a different account.

I need to go through and put the license in every source file. The license is BSD through, so no worries there. The xith_utilities is from the magicosm project and I didnt want the source in two places. I will either gen the java doc or include source in a reference jar.

I am in the middle of porting sun's geometry package, adding support for indexed geometry and adding two more loaders... so I need to finish that before I can commit again.

Question about people requesting developer status. I am a tad bit worried that it might be premature for that. i am still writing massive amounts of code and need the ability to reorganize stuff if I need to. If other developers are in their, unless they coordinate with me and work on something on the fringe we will have a mess.

For example someone could write the LWJGL port pretty easily without it causing any problems since they would only need to copy the JOGL code (about 10 files) and change them (mostly) slightly.

/** * Copyright (c) 2003, Xith3D Project Group * All rights reserved. * * Portions based on the Java3D interface, Copyright by Sun Microsystems. * Many thanks to the developers of Java3D and Sun Microsystems for their * innovation and design. * * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without * modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met: * * Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, * this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. * * Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, * this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation * and/or other materials provided with the distribution. * * Neither the name of the 'Xith3D Project Group' nor the names of its contributors * may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software * without specific prior written permission. * * THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND CONTRIBUTORS "AS IS" * AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE * IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE * ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE COPYRIGHT OWNER OR CONTRIBUTORS BE * LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR * CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF * SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS * INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN * CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) A * RISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE * POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE * */

I am just a bit curious about the legal status of the project from Sun's point of view. Did the acceptance of the project mean that Sun allows Xith3D code based on Sun's Java3D interfaces to be distributed under the BSD license? I hope Chris or someone else at Sun can clarify...

You've probably all noticed by now that Xith3D is under the games-middleware project and should be visible to everyone.

Just so you all know, projects go into the games-inbox until their approved, at which point they're (usually) moved to the correct project category and become publicly visible. When I approved Xith3D, I forgot to move it. My mistake.

On top of that, I was away from my desk most of day or else I would have spotted this thread sooner. Fortunately, Dan noticed the post to the mailing list and was able to correct my mistake.

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