Indeed. @benfdc is completely correct, Christopher. 1Password is completely local, If you're cloud averse, there is Wi-Fi Sync which keeps your data in sync across devices without it ever leaving your local network. 1Password for iOS is also free.

They don't charge for the android version if you purchased a mac or windows version. You need to pay at least once. Seems pretty fair to me.

Erm, yes they do, and from @benfdc‌'s link, they are for the new iOS version too. It's only free for existing v4 users. If I lost my mind and bought an iPhone then I'd need to pay for the iOS version, assuming I wanted the full feature set. For the reduced feature set, it is indeed free, which is an interesting difference from the Android version which is free "reader" but pay to edit.

I'm not sure what you mean. I have V4 on my mac which I bought very recently and it tells me it's up to date. I'm also using the android version on two different phones for free. Is V5 an iOS thing? I don't use iOS, I use OSX and Android...which is free for me since I bought the OSX version.

+1 for a Diceware option on all platforms. I normally just use 50 random characters, but occasionally there's things that I need to be human-readable. And pulling out my D&D dice to make a custom password always feels excessive

I shed a tear as well ... I'd love to see this feature on all the platforms soon!

and @danco, you're right - running 1Password 4 for Windows just for the Diceware generator is a bit ... extreme. I'll let the developers know the lengths you're going to to get access to this awesome feature.

Wait a second... didn't 1Password start off as a Mac application? Why are we now put on the backburner for a feature like this? Isn't 1Password already on version 5 for the Mac and only version 4 for Windows?

Wait a second... didn't 1Password start off as a Mac application? Why are we now put on the backburner for a feature like this? Isn't 1Password already on version 5 for the Mac and only version 4 for Windows?

The Mac app already has a pronounceable password feature. The Windows team decided to implement it as diceware.
As I understand it, the v5 releases were not massive feature upgrades but mostly just "support the new OS" releases.

Basically, when the Windows app is even vaguely close to feature parity then you can start crying about how unfair it is.

It’s not personal. Everyone was on the back burner until a Windows customer pointed AgileBits to a code library that could be plugged in with little effort. Maybe a Mac customer is going to have to step up to the plate, because we have years of evidence that the in-house developers have not been asked to prioritize this.

The Mac app already has a pronounceable password feature. The Windows team decided to implement it as diceware.

“Pronounceable passwords” are in no way, shape or form a substitute for Diceware-ish passphrases, and I have never seen anyone on the “Mac team” suggest otherwise. Diceware gives you high-security passwords of easily-quantified strength that are reasonably capable of being memorized. What do pronounceable passwords give you? Mimicry of a 1993 federal data processing standard (FIPS-181).

Most businesses run on Windows, so you would think that the Windows version of 1Password would be saddled with the FIPS-y stuff and Mac users would get the goodies. But somehow that is not how things played out.

Everyone was on the back burner until a Windows customer pointed AgileBits to a code library that could be plugged in with little effort.

Do you have a link to this? I don't remember that at all. Besides, the algorithm to for Diceware generation is not complex so I have no idea why they'd wait until a third party library was pointed out.

“Pronounceable passwords” are in no way, shape or form a substitute for Diceware-ish passphrases,

Yes it is. They both try to address the problem of producing secure, yet memorable passwords. You might reasonably argue that Diceware is a stronger and/or better scheme but they both serve the same basic purpose.

Most businesses run on Windows, so you would think that the Windows version of 1Password would be saddled with the FIPS-y stuff and Mac users would get the goodies. But somehow that is not how things played out.

Why would the newer platform for 1Password by saddled with a 20 year old U.S. specific standard?

… Not long after the planes struck the twin towers, killing 658 of his co-workers and friends, including his brother, one of the first things on {Howard} Lutnick’s mind was passwords. ...

No one knew the passwords for hundreds of accounts and files that were needed to get back online in time for the reopening of the bond markets. Cantor Fitzgerald did have extensive contingency plans in place, including a requirement that all employees tell their work passwords to four nearby colleagues. But now a large majority of the firm’s 960 New York employees were dead. …

Then follows Lutnick’s ordeal and strategy for recovering those passwords, and discusses “keepsake” passwords … words. dates, and phrases that are significant only to that one person … and “playful” passwords that some people use. I liked this one:

Several people said they used “incorrect” for theirs so that when they forgot it, the software automatically prompted them with the right one (“your password is incorrect”)