It just seemed to me that Fugate was an example of brain over brawn. You have this scrawny little man whose very intelligent, and as a result he knows the exact timing of all of batmans moves and can react accordingly. fascinating IMO

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One of my absolute favorite episodes that so many people overlook is Appointment in Crime Alley. You've got this smooth, Lex like character that in the end, Batman can't bring to justice. Its the anniversary of his parents murder and he's searching for Leslie, all the while having to stop all these other crisis' along the way. There's just alot of emotion in this episode and I love it.

One of my absolute favorite episodes that so many people overlook is Appointment in Crime Alley. You've got this smooth, Lex like character that in the end, Batman can't bring to justice. Its the anniversary of his parents murder and he's searching for Leslie, all the while having to stop all these other crisis' along the way. There's just alot of emotion in this episode and I love it.

It's a shame Nolan didn't use Lesie Thompson (sp?) in BB & TDK. I would loved her in live-ction movies.

scarecrow was no longer this geeky professor gone mad kinda deal, madhatter was well....more like the one from alice in wonderland,
killer croc was , as for joker I much prefererred him in Justice League.
who else? riddler gone bald..nope not my thing.
Two-face had minor changes, so no big deal there.
can't think of anyone else?

scarecrow was no longer this geeky professor gone mad kinda deal, madhatter was well....more like the one from alice in wonderland,
killer croc was , as for joker I much prefererred him in Justice League.
who else? riddler gone bald..nope not my thing.
Two-face had minor changes, so no big deal there.
can't think of anyone else?

The complaint with the Scarecrow is more about how they changed his characterization, though, unless I'm misunderstanding you. Visually, I thought it was a huge improvement. But the lowered, creepier voice and such was also an improvement, IMHO.

Mad Hatter, I never really liked either of his designs, to be honest, but I feel the TNBA one is a slight improvement, and it's more faithful to the images I've seen from the comics so that's an extra plus.

Riddler! I completely forgot about him. He only appeared like once in TNBA, right? Now that I think of it I definitely prefer the BTAS look on that one...the green spandex should stay with Jim Carrey, Frank Gorshn, and comic appearances long since past.

And with the Joker I'm right wth you on JL, but I view the TNBA as an improvement over TAS because I like the color scheme better as well as the slimmer body. BTAS Joker always looked kind of...chubby.

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Joker's I did indeed like...especially his clothing...They combined these two designs to make the best looking Joker on television.

I believe the middle was the original design, based off of Batman Returns' take, much like Penguin. I was hard to make completely black characters back then.

This had to be one of the best redesigns, it was so good and frightening, Timm and co didn't want to show him without his mask.

My personal favorite...so good I kinda wish they would re animate BTAS with this design. The original run they were forced to base his design after Batman Returns.

Ivy's clothes are better, however...the pale skin I don't really care for...but I guess there was a reasonable explaination for that...

No...No, No, No...NO. The spandex look is kinda supid...and did he have to be bald? This was when they mixed both designs together in the comic series. It's basically the TNBA head on the BTAS body. This would be my favorite design...had it existed *cries*

Well, I think my post is getting rather lengthy...so I better hang it up now.

I don't know, I personally didn't like his re-characterization of the scarecrow.

I thought they nailed it the first time, and the re-design felt like a totally new character, and not Johnathon Crane, had they created a new character and used that character, I would of been happy. Alas, Its not scarecrow to me...it's more like a killercroc version of scarecrow (if that makes sense?).

I forgot about the good guys re-designs, I found bruce to look much younger, penguin didn't seem as dastardly can't say I liked his re-design, poison ivy seemed toooo cartoony same with catwoman, umm, gordon was good, robin, bullock was fine.

Yeah, i was surprised they re-designed the riddler so much, he was only in one episode and he wasn't even real. it was like a flash back of some sorts if I remember correctly, or the mad hatter perhaps? not sure why they would re-design him.

Clayface was way better in the new one.

I really find those before and after shots don't really do B:TAS justice, they were a lot better I guess fluidly then they look standing still like that.

Joker I always found was wearing a robin style mask in B:TAS for the first couple of episodes, didnt like that much, and in B: TNBA...he didn't make me feel like I was supposed to laugh at much,

Anyway, to just kind of comment on the discussion at hand, some of the redesigns are great. The main problem with the designs of BTAS was that sometimes the characters looked kind of chunky. They eliminated that problem in TNBA. Of course, I didn't like that The Joker didn't have red lips and The Riddler looked...well, he looked better in TNBA than he did in The Batman.

My only complaint about TNBA was that there was no distinction between Batman's voice and Bruce Wayne's voice. That gets on my nerves. It's a minor thing, but still...

Oh, and does anyone know the title of the episode of TNBA where Superman pretends to be Batman? Tim Drake helps him and there's something about nano-technology.

ross, The episode you are looking for is called Knight Time. Riddler was one of the only redesigns that made no sense as he wasn't even used. Even Mad Hatter had his episode in Animal Act.

As for Bruce and Batman's voices, I don't think that he was around a lot of people outside of the Bat-family. I know he wasn't as out and about as Bruce Wayne of BTAS in TNBA.

Anyone care for (or notice) any of the voice changes throughout the seasons?

Killer Croc, Baby Doll and Talia had different voice actors in TNBA than BTAS.

Penguin had a different voice in Mystery of the Batwoman which I didn't care for because Paul Williams owned Penguin as much as Hamill owned Joker. Don't get me wrong, David Ogden Stiers (sp) was a good Penguin, but not as good as the already established one.