Introduction

This article will basically introduce you to the funniest yet useful bug in Microsoft systems. Do at your own risk as neither Go4Expert nor the author of the article are responsible for anything legal related to it

Background

I work as a manager in HP for north american customers, so i have been hanging around in this field since a long time. So just by a little research i managed to find the bug!

Lets start

PART 1

1. Go to ebay.com
2. Search for "Microsoft Products". (Suppose you chose a "gaming keyboard")
3. Select any product below $150, and tell the seller that "I am ready to buy, but just to make sure that I am getting the right thing, i want to know the PID number of the product".
4. Seller will mail you PID number.

Part 2

1. Call up microsoft customer service OR have a chat with their representative
2. I dont have the number byhearted so goto support.microsoft.com and find that out
3. Tell them that " I own this (the same) Gaming Keyboard, its broken, some of the keys are not working, I have done all the troubleshooting."
4. VOILA!, they will say that "Its ok, sir, we will send your another!"
5. YOUR DONE!!

How it works?

When they send you another keyboard, they would NOT ask you to return the existing broken keyboard, because the SHIPPING will cost them more than the price of the keyboard. So thats what is the loophole

Why till $150?

As i mentioned above, if the replacement product costs more than $150, then they will ask you to return the existing broken product at the time of delivery, which apperantly we dont have :D.

Can I get caught?

NO!. Its done through complete legal way, I have already ordered 5 of them and have received 3 at my friend's place in US. I am expecting them to drop 1 of them at my place (india), within couple of days. :pleased:

ENJOYIN EXPLOITIN THE LOOPHOLES!

shabbir

25Feb2009 19:13

Re: Get Any Microsoft Products for FREE!!

Quote:

NO!. Its done through complete legal way, I have already ordered 5 of them and have received 3 at my friend's place in US. I am expecting them to drop 1 of them at my place (india), within couple of days.

I really doubt on this.

indiansword

25Feb2009 19:17

Re: Get Any Microsoft Products for FREE!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabbir
(Post 43469)

I really doubt on this.

i dont coz i have got the CONFIRMATION MAIL, m in the office right now so dont have access to personal emails, will paste the confirmation text later, i said that will take 2 more days, coz they have confirmed that they are shipping it to india, so logically it should be around 7-8 working days :)

shabbir

25Feb2009 20:11

Re: Get Any Microsoft Products for FREE!!

But you are stealing the PID from a person and so it would be anyway a law breaker and so you are bound to be caught

indiansword

25Feb2009 20:26

Re: Get Any Microsoft Products for FREE!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabbir
(Post 43474)

But you are stealing the PID from a person and so it would be anyway a law breaker and so you are bound to be caught

1. the original owner doesnt have ANY idea about it. in microsoft call center, it works in such a way that even if u call for the same product, on every call it will create a NEW PROFILE. i dont think every one would understand the tools on which call centers work.

2. original owner is not in picture... the personal who delivers it to your address has no concernes with it...

3. its microsoft's policy, so no one can deny that

4. still to answer your question, you can say that
"I had the broken product, i threw i out"
"I purchased it when i was in US"
(i m damn sure, we wudnt be in position to answer any one)

xpi0t0s

25Feb2009 20:57

Re: Get Any Microsoft Products for FREE!!

Yay, way to get sacked when people find out. Operation Planner for 3 Australia, eh? And "I work as a manager in HP for north american customers". That's going to narrow down who you are fairly accurately.

This is theft, plain and simple. Actually depriving people of actual physical products that cost actual money to make. And since you didn't buy these products this makes you a liar as well.

This has absolutely nothing to do with ETHICAL hacking (FFS, some people really need to look up the word ETHICAL in a dictionary before being allowed to post bere) and IMHO this article and thread should be deleted as it gives go4Expert a bad name.

And yes, you can get caught. What happens when someone whose PID you've nicked faces this problem for real and asks for a replacement? They contact Microsoft, who say I see you've already done this once sir, followed by no I haven't and I want my replacement oh and by the way here's my proof of purchase, followed by OK let's see who was daft enough to give us their address for sending your replacement keyboard to, followed by a quick cross reference, followed by oh look, five keyboards and counting, this person is either very unlucky or a crook. And I bet HP are a Microsoft partner and you'll be in it up to your neck, so if they don't call the cops out (who probably couldn't be arsed) they'll have a word with the HP CEO and you'll be out on your ear.

Or maybe what if they just cross reference one address against the number of failures and compare that with the average failures/address, without being prompted by a duplicate request for a broken product?

So I hope your five $100 keyboards are of some comfort when you find yourself out of a job and unable to get another one in IT. Or in the slammer.

indiansword

25Feb2009 21:02

Re: Get Any Microsoft Products for FREE!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpi0t0s
(Post 43486)

Yay, way to get sacked when people find out. Operation Planner for 3 Australia, eh? And "I work as a manager in HP for north american customers". That's going to narrow down who you are fairly accurately.

This is theft, plain and simple. Actually depriving people of actual physical products that cost actual money to make. And since you didn't buy these products this makes you a liar as well.

This has absolutely nothing to do with ETHICAL hacking (FFS, some people really need to look up the word ETHICAL in a dictionary before being allowed to post bere) and IMHO this article and thread should be deleted as it gives go4Expert a bad name.

And yes, you can get caught. What happens when someone whose PID you've nicked faces this problem for real and asks for a replacement? They contact Microsoft, who say I see you've already done this once sir, followed by no I haven't and I want my replacement oh and by the way here's my proof of purchase, followed by OK let's see who was daft enough to give us their address for sending your replacement keyboard to, followed by a quick cross reference, followed by oh look, five keyboards and counting, this person is either very unlucky or a crook. And I bet HP are a Microsoft partner and you'll be in it up to your neck, so if they don't call the cops out (who probably couldn't be arsed) they'll have a word with the HP CEO and you'll be out on your ear.

Or maybe what if they just cross reference one address against the number of failures and compare that with the average failures/address, without being prompted by a duplicate request for a broken product?

So I hope your five $100 keyboards are of some comfort when you find yourself out of a job and unable to get another one in IT. Or in the slammer.

if actual owner's PID is facing problem they call up and microsoft send them another. Thats y i said that you wudnt understand the tool that they work on

U can once, you profile is created, data saved for that particular call.
Another call, another profile, new replacement! THATS THE BUG!

i cud have added a disclaimer that
- educational purpose-
but its not :crazy:

and ya

Code:

Yay, way to get sacked when people find out. Operation Planner for 3 Australia, eh? And "I work as a manager in HP for north american customers". That's going to narrow down who you are fairly accurately.

what u mean by that?
i was with 3 earlier, now with hp since coupel of months.

hanleyhansen

26Feb2009 05:53

Re: Get Any Microsoft Products for FREE!!

I agree with xpi0t0s this has to be illegal because your making your self pass as the legitimate owner of the product which is lying and deceit and impersonation. Also by saying you owned one and lost it or broke it your claiming false ownership for personal benefit and to gain a profit for something you don't have or own which is illegal.

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