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Because they have a future HOF QB in Drew Breezus. There was a time when IMO they had even less on offense (with Brees), but with all the issues and changes from this off-season it's hard to put them ahead of CAR, and ATL.

I think I’d like to see Byrd win the KR spot, with Lee replacing Brockel, and as far as Marlowe is concerned I can live with Harper, and Coleman splitting duties at strong safety, while Marlowe develops on the PS.

I think my favorite is when Huddler’s just make sh** up, better than Ginn, good lord. Ace has a career avg. of 9.5 yards per catch, and has ‘0’ touchdowns in his career. Even Ginn’s worst year is better than that. Ace had just 55 yards last year….55. Ginn’s career long beats Sanders 12 game total.

I don’t know why people are so quick to hate on Ginn, and some other players here, but Ginn had his ‘BEST’ year with Carolina in 2013 from a receiving touchdowns stand point, and arguably overall, and we were happy to have him back as a needed deep threat, and returner.

It was the third day of the 2015 NFL Draft and the Panthers are on the clock…tic toc, tic toc, and with the 38th pick in the 5th round Carolina selects Cameron Artis-Payne running back from Auburn…(Don’t believe me just watch)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sneB0S3VpEE

And just like that Carolina had drafted their third running back in three years in the latter rounds under GM Dave Gettleman, the previous two seasons saw Oregon stand-out Kenjon Barner (5th), and Stanford’s bell cow Tyler Gaffney (6th) be the teams choices, neither of whom are still with the team. But this time, maybe, just maybe the player will stick.

When listening to early commentary on (CAP for short) we kept hearing him being referred to a bowling ball creating an image many may liken to Tolbert’s build. Upon further review CAP is more of a mix between the departed DeAngelo Williams (5’9, 215), and current lead Back Jonathan Stewart (5’10, 235), as CAP is listed at 5’10, 212 lbs.

Per his draft profile -- http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/cameron-artis-payne?id=2552375 – CAP’s strengths fall in line with what Carolina looks for in their feature back, a north/south running style, patience in following blocks, burst through the hole, and finishing runs by playing through contact. His listed weakness bring to light a concern in pass protection, a weakness common among many of the non-first round running talents as many colleges utilize the spread and the backs find themselves often out in space, while being asked to pass protect on a fewer snaps.

Another concern was his top end speed (4.53 40 time - high end) and being able to turn the corner vs NFL caliber defenses, I say to that look no further than backs like Le’Veon Bell (4.6), Doug Martin (4.55), and Justin Forsett (4.62) who have all found fairly high levels of success behind power run, and zone blocking schemes similar to what the Panthers currently employ.

So now that the preliminary information is out of the way let’s talk about, ‘The Fit’ : Coming out of Auburn’s Pistol attack I think CAP has a niche he’s already accustomed to and well suited for as he pairs with the likes of Cam Newton, and Jonathan Stewart among others in the back-field to show-case one of the more college influenced offenses in the NFL.

If you take a look at his tape, you can see just how similar our Pistol run game is to the Auburn system he just left-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA-tvSBW7Q0

That right there is where I think we’ll see the most impact with CAP as he grows as a rookie, in the Pistol, and Shotgun option looks. Just watching that video I see some characteristics that remind me of the way Jonathan Stewart runs for us as he tends to bounce off of tackles, and fall forward through the contact.

So while I don’t think CAP will be our feature back this season or the next, he definitely should have more than enough opportunity excelling at what he excelled in at Auburn working from the Pistol, and Shotgun as he matures as an NFL runner. So if you don’t believe me just watch…

Won't happen, I'm a Wayne fan, but this team is looking the future in the face already with Benjamin and Funchess. At this point I don't think Wayne offers more than a possession receiver role and we have Bersin, Cotchery, and possibly Boykin all vying for that role, as Ginn, and Brown are locks in my opinion behind the twin towers. However I do think Wayne is an upgrade over Cotchery, Boykin, and Bersin. I just can't see it happening.

Like a poster mentioned we'd have a substantial amount of room as Johnson's CAP hit will not be 20 million next year, there's also still 12 million in dead money on this season's books, and we're still sitting on 14 million in CAP space. I know we're used to CAP hell/restrictions under the previous regime but it seems we are preparing our CAP to bring back our core young players. Now I'm no CAP/Draft expert, but I'd guess we'd do as follows:1)Extend Luke, and Norman by next off-season 2)Extend KK in 2017 (iirc last year of 4yr rookie deal signed in 2013)3)Exercise 5th year option on Star for the 2018 season, and work on extensionI think Gettleman has expressed his desire to retain core pieces and I think all the players above fall into that category. Draft quality players, sign less expensive veterans and over-looked talent at UDFA to fill out the roster.

The narrative was 'why was he was brought to the team', which is what the comments were related to. Now if you want to discuss his role moving forward you should've clarified that because this video is from THIS off-season. We were discussing his original role, but Ed is NOT going to be the starting fullback, he is the second tight end, but he will see some H-Back opportunities, based on this video.

Keep it moving, it's obvious you have nothing to support that HE WAS BROUGHT IN TO BLOCK so you have no legs to stand on, which is why you have no quotes, or links to back it up. People come here for intelligent football discussion people like you, well I don't know why you're here or post since you offer nothing. The coach and player acknowledged why he wasn't involved early in the season in the passing game. But if you truly believe Ed Dickson, a TE NEVER KNOWN for his blocking skills was brought in to block then more power to you, and less power to our staff for not having a clue (sarcasm).

Oh and for coach commentary -http://www.panthers.com/news/article-2/Notes-Opportunity-knocks-for-Dickson/a30e0972-dd7d-4df0-87bf-0d203286ce53OC Mike Shula on Dickson post Mike Tolbert injury-"Ed has been even better at the end of the year in regard to doing more things for us," offensive coordinator Mike Shula said. "We've been able to put him in more positions that maybe we didn't do earlier in the year. Thus, he's on the field more. When that happens, you are going to get more opportunities."

Ed Dickson on the Tolbert injury, & playing time/opportunities-"I understand the bigger picture," explained Dickson, who made 10 starts this season when the Panthers opened with two tight ends. "This whole season 88 (tight end Greg Olsen ) has been balling out. And we had two fullbacks go down. They needed me to play that position and I'll play the position – it doesn't matter.

Dickson on playing time & opportunities once a healthy Tolbert returned-"We got (fullback Mike Tolbert ) healthy again, and I started to become a factor in the passing game."

If you need more commentary I'll dig it up, I don't arbitrarily spout off at the mouth on topics without having a clue, you now have quotes from the OC, and the player himself noting that his passing game involvement was limited due to the starting fullback, and 2nd stringer in Brockel. Funny how his passing game involvement took off once Tolbert returned to playing fullback...so much dumb in this post, smh get a clue kid.

CelibatePimp1st ^^^ is an idiot, if he thinks a pass catching TE from Baltimore was brought in to block. He was brought in to be the 2nd receiving TE any Panther fan is aware of that. Article after leaving Baltimore-http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-source-ed-dickson-joins-panthers-on-oneyear-contract-20140410-story.htmlCombine Report (Strengths as a pass catcher, weakness as a run blocker)-http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/ed-dickson?id=4972242nd Receiver Rankings (and back on topic)-1)TB - Between Evans, and Jackson they have two premier threats at receiver, who can go up and get it, make plays deep, and block well in the run game. Like Atlanta their issue is depth, but there's no questioning the top two.2)CAR - Kelvin Benjamin, with the addition of Funchess, the return of Ginn, and Brown's potential emergence puts us a nose past ATL. Many critics/huddlers were wary of Benjamin's 40 time, I don't think teams like Carolina and others would be looking at him at the top of the 2nd if speed was a real concern.3)ATL - Two years ago this group was probably number one, but age and injuries appear to be taking a toll on Roddy White. Julio Jones is pushing that elite level, and likely already is. However there really isn't anyone behind them, Hester's never been a viable threat and the verdict is out on the rookie. 4)NO - How much does Marques Colston have left, and can Cooks stay healthy? Similar to TB, and ATL where is the depth...and if teams can limit the deep ball this COULD be a pedestrian year for this group.

Now if we go as far as to factor in quarterbacks, and tight ends...1)CAR - Adding Olsen to this mix is more than enough with Cam's presence to catapult us to number one.2)ATL - Matt Ryan is a very good quarterback, but depth at receiver may be an issue, and adding Tamme post Peyton isn't enough to move to #1.3)NO - It's true Brees is fading and so is the talent at the receiver position, behind Colston and Cooks who's the third guy...NIck Toon? Take away arguably the top receiving tight end in the league and I have to place them behind CAR, and ATL. 4)TB - Rookie quarterback, and Lovie Smith ball just don't say prolific offense. I think TB will look like us last year but with two viable receivers instead of one. Jameis may have been the 1st overall pick, but I just don't know if he's on the same level as the veteran quarterbacks in the NFC South.