But let me ask you guys this, what if this wasn't the Supra but the new Toyota Cellica? Would everyone in here be more accepting of this car? I think sticking the Supra name on this car is doing more harm in here than anything.

That was kind of my point saying we will have to see what the reviews say about the Supra. Even though it is mainly BMW, what has changed in the Supra and were the changes for the better?

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Originally Posted by sickmint79

this is a good point, definite expectations difference between using the names. instead of a disappointing supra we'd probably be talking about a badass celica. although could probably still use a good 5k+ knocked off the price. interested to see how well it reviews and is compared against.

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Originally Posted by Mook

If this car didnt carry the Supra name, I'd be far more in favor of it.

The only thing that being a "celica" would change is the fact that they couldn't charge anywhere near $50k for it, and i'd be expecting a slow car built for a girl.

I don't think anyone would pay even $40k for a celica, but that's just me. If they called this the celica and it had a $40k MSRP i'd say "nice car, solid engine, fair price, too bad they picked a name that doesn't fit the car"

I don't think anyone would pay even $40k for a celica, but that's just me. If they called this the celica and it had a $40k MSRP i'd say "nice car, solid engine, fair price, too bad they picked a name that doesn't fit the car"

pretty sad to think those 90s Toyota Previa vans had a fucking supercharged AWD option.... what a forgotten era for Toyota. Today it's all about churning out as many left lane camping appliances to the masses that cant change a flat tire. If Toyota actually gave a fuck with the new Supra, they would have never went to BMW in exchange for a rebadged Z4.

Will definitely be interested to see what he does with it. Seems like a really odd choice to add to his stable....but at least he'll put it thru it's paces.

That said, for me the styling is probably the biggest hangup I have with this car. Especially all those fake air inlet/outlet vents all along the car. Why not make them functional??? Thats really the biggest thing that grinds me about that car. Fake vents are stupid. Other than that, I guess I'm not really hung up on the "Supra" name that much. I'm probably a bit more sympathetic about it, for obvious reasons. At least the GTO actually used GM parts. I do think this will be a fun car to drive.

For anyone lamenting this car will "ONLY" have 335hp, go drive a car w/ a N or B series engine. It punches way above it's weight. My 235 "ONLY" has 320hp, but put your foot down, and your brain would be hard pressed to believe it. Sure, this engine may not be capable of hitting 4 digit HP numbers....but.. I mean come on.

All said, I think I'm just gonna slap a Supra badge on the back of my 235 and save myself $55k. That is a steep steep price for this car.