doglover:Quit playing so many video games and learn about some real guns. You can shoot 30+ people with a handful of rifle bullets if they're in a group. Just fire into the exit as they flee. Bullets don't stop just because they hit one thing, they keep going till they run out of energy.

You sound oddly like you've planned this out.

How would you kill the rest? Do you have strategically placed Fire Bombs at the exits? Henchmen armed with spiked rape-bats?

What about the women and children? Do you spare them? Or do you rape em' all at the number 6 dance later?

thejoyofpi:TommyymmoT: At the time, alot of people were making that that comparison based on Christian Slater's character, who wore a trench coat, and hated all the jocks, bullies, and popular kids, and wanted to kill them, which were pretty much the same motivations as "The Trench coat Mafia" who perpetrated the Columbine shootings.

Right but the claim in this thread was the Columbine shooters were seen as "left wing" which was palpably not the case. Disturbed, bullied, whatever, but I don't think they were ever attached to an actual political case.

Actually I'm the only one that I know of that's drawn that parallel, but I'm surprised that nobody else did, considering all the similarities, and the time line.Heathers was released about a year before, and the movie was showing on cable quite a bit at about the time of the shootings.

CliChe Guevara:Darkraven: A shotgun makes sense. But a rifle? Handgun? How do you accomplish mass shooting like that, in a dark theater, in a short amount of time, with a rifle and a handgun?

Large capacity magazine in either or both, shooting into a densely packed and panicked group as they all go for the exit to escape the gas. Can't miss at that point, you are going to hit someone with every shot, and if its a rifle very likely penetrate more than one with some shots.

there was another gun found inside, rifle of a nature not yet discussed by police

Close2TheEdge:Unfortunately, that will play into some fundie Christian's alking points.

sorta doubt it since there are countless tales of good v. evil throughout history, and it's pretty clear Batman is the good guy here. The villains are acted very well, but it's by no means a glorification that anyone who isn't a nut could possibly get caught up in.

fark'emfeed'emfish:CliChe Guevara: Darkraven: A shotgun makes sense. But a rifle? Handgun? How do you accomplish mass shooting like that, in a dark theater, in a short amount of time, with a rifle and a handgun?

Large capacity magazine in either or both, shooting into a densely packed and panicked group as they all go for the exit to escape the gas. Can't miss at that point, you are going to hit someone with every shot, and if its a rifle very likely penetrate more than one with some shots.

there was another gun found inside, rifle of a nature not yet discussed by police

people are saying there was a shotgun as well, and a lot of injuries from pellet spray would explain the extremely large number of minor/non-critical casualties that are being reported.

USP .45:Close2TheEdge: Unfortunately, that will play into some fundie Christian's alking points.

sorta doubt it since there are countless tales of good v. evil throughout history, and it's pretty clear Batman is the good guy here. The villains are acted very well, but it's by no means a glorification that anyone who isn't a nut could possibly get caught up in.

JustinCase:Gyrfalcon: JustinCase: Greywar: Reports are that the perp in custody was wearing body armor.

That's what I head shots are for...

Yeah, too bad for us all it was a) dark and b) the guy surrendered when the cops got there.

A head shot is not a workaround for body armor?

What if the "perp" had other associates - maybe he was working for some domestic terrorist group - and interrogating him might lead to good intelligence about those networks? You still want the cops to fulfill your "boom! headshot!" adolescent wet dreams?

I have FOX on TV right now. My doctor told me I was suffering from a 'stupid' deficiency.Little news, much conjecture, and their usual cast of idiot "experts".

"Obviously, somebody missed some warning signs""Who allowed him to bring a 'bomb' into the theater?""Why this theater?""Who is behind him that supplied him with all that fire power?"

According to these retards, he was sitting in the theater, just waiting for the movie to start before he stood up, and just started shooting, as if nobody would notice somebody sitting next to them full riot gear, with helmet and gas mask, and multiple assault weapons.

Oh, now they're saying it was gangs...Oh hell, I've had my fill, where's the remote?

Ishkur:Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck et. al. must be taken to task one of these days for the hateful rhetoric they spew day after day. There are a lot of damaged people with mental disorders who depend on these pundits to validate their paranoid insecurities, and I wouldn't put it past this gunman that, due to the whole Bane/Bain coverage this week, he was convinced that the movie was an evil liberal socialist propaganda film and he needed to save people from its corrupting influence.

But I'll wait until more certain information comes out before passing judgment.

lol wait to pass judgement!!! HAHAHAHA!!!1!

Everyone so quick to blame Limbaugh, it's unbelievable. No one knows what they hell sparked this. NO ONE here. But, lets blame those right wingers because we know they are "evil." asshats..

This is just farked up. My prayers go out to the victimes and their families. Not that it would have done much good in that situation how he was geared unless I got a leg shot, but I carry a licensed firearm because I am scared of my fellow citizens and not the government.

EatTheWorld:Ishkur: Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck et. al. must be taken to task one of these days for the hateful rhetoric they spew day after day. There are a lot of damaged people with mental disorders who depend on these pundits to validate their paranoid insecurities, and I wouldn't put it past this gunman that, due to the whole Bane/Bain coverage this week, he was convinced that the movie was an evil liberal socialist propaganda film and he needed to save people from its corrupting influence.

But I'll wait until more certain information comes out before passing judgment.

lol wait to pass judgement!!! HAHAHAHA!!!1!

Everyone so quick to blame Limbaugh, it's unbelievable. No one knows what they hell sparked this. NO ONE here. But, lets blame those right wingers because we know they are "evil." asshats..

Well, they ARE evil asshats. However, I'm guessing this was just a loner bedwetter who's girlfriend laughed at his tiny man-junk.

doglover:<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7223686/78185495#c78185495" target="_blank">Darkraven</a>:</b> <i>A shotgun makes sense. But a rifle? Handgun? How do you accomplish mass shooting like that, in a dark theater, in a short amount of time, with a rifle and a handgun?</i>

I don't play video games. I was on a rifle squad for years. Granted, I used some cheap ass guns, but the principle is the same.

My point is, dark theater, you have to aim at shiat and actually shoot your target. And yes, you do have to reload, which takes time.

A shotgun, you aim at nothing, hit a ton of people.

I feel like the media misquoted and am willing to bet it was a shotgun.

CliChe Guevara:fark'emfeed'emfish: CliChe Guevara: Darkraven: A shotgun makes sense. But a rifle? Handgun? How do you accomplish mass shooting like that, in a dark theater, in a short amount of time, with a rifle and a handgun?

Large capacity magazine in either or both, shooting into a densely packed and panicked group as they all go for the exit to escape the gas. Can't miss at that point, you are going to hit someone with every shot, and if its a rifle very likely penetrate more than one with some shots.

there was another gun found inside, rifle of a nature not yet discussed by police

people are saying there was a shotgun as well, and a lot of injuries from pellet spray would explain the extremely large number of minor/non-critical casualties that are being reported.

very true, one witness reported an automatic rifle as well in an interview I saw. I Understand witness reliability is never the best, but the otherwise negative space concerning details of the rifle inside seems telling.

Close2TheEdge:USP .45: Since it's a given this dude is a nut, you have to then consider the number of people that have seen a Dark Knight film v. the number of listeners of Rush Limbaugh. It doens't even compare.

Let me speculate that this nut is roleplaying one of the Joker's henchman and is doing exactly what the Joker would do - cause mayhem.

Unfortunately, that will play into some fundie Christian's alking points. They will bemoan the breakdown of morality and decency in society, as exemplified by the sick fantasies of some 24 year old. Throw in a few jabs at "liberal Hollywood" and voila, tailor made splooge material for the Hannity listening crowd.

Really? Seems more likely to play into the talking points of those involved with the upcoming U.N. firearms treaty.

heavymetal:This is just farked up. My prayers go out to the victimes and their families. Not that it would have done much good in that situation how he was geared unless I got a leg shot, but I carry a licensed firearm because I am scared of my fellow citizens and not the government.

Yeah, but in Michigan you can't carry in a movie theater to protect yourself.

Not that it would have likely done much good here and the police were in the building already. Ironic though.