Irn-Bru wrote:Does Shanahan have any story you can call to our attention that can compete with that level of dishonesty? I don't have one. So yes, I do cut him a little more slack right now and don't assume the worst: I don't assume he must be the leak, I don't assume his benching Griffin is some kind of "all in" poker play, etc. It's too easy to turn on Shanahan because he's been unsuccessful this year and is likely out the door in a few weeks. I am open to being corrected, but I just don't see the rat everyone keeps talking about.

Shanahan has a well documented history of lying. From being investigated by the league for lying about injuries in Denver, to basically admitting he was lying about why they benched McNabb, to the whole involvement of Dr. Andrews and his "clearance" of RG3 to return to the playoff game last year. Heck, in his most recent press conference he self admitted he isn't very truthful.

Fair enough.

His line in the press conference this week is easily misinterpreted, though. I think his meaning was "I'm trying to tell you guys as much as I can, and I don't normally do that," though he used the word "honest." In context, he was explaining that he was being frank and revealing, which is normally something he avoids. I don't think he was admitting to outright lying to the press on a regular basis.

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I seriously have to back away from the ledge. Who else here sits at works and day dreams about torturing this coaching staff? Do you know what I would give to tie Shanalobster down and pull every one of his teeth out and then use a red hot poker on him??? I think I hate this man as much as I hate Adolf Hitler, and that Jim Haslett and Keith Burns.....BOY OH BOY the thoughts.......

DaSkinz Baby wrote:I seriously have to back away from the ledge. Who else here sits at works and day dreams about torturing this coaching staff? Do you know what I would give to tie Shanalobster down and pull every one of his teeth out and then use a red hot poker on him??? I think I hate this man as much as I hate Adolf Hitler, and that Jim Haslett and Keith Burns ….. BOY OH BOY the thoughts .......

easy there big boy - I really think that things are not near as bad as many are making you believe

just take a couple of deep breaths and … step back from the ledge … a little

I agree that Mike should be out of here and we'll be better for it but I'm not sure that should happen right now let's let the season end and see what happens when Mike and Dan have a little chat about what is going to be best for Robert going forward - that is the key

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His line in the press conference this week is easily misinterpreted, though. I think his meaning was "I'm trying to tell you guys as much as I can, and I don't normally do that," though he used the word "honest." In context, he was explaining that he was being frank and revealing, which is normally something he avoids. I don't think he was admitting to outright lying to the press on a regular basis.

Yeah, it agree there. That was more facetious than anything.

I honestly could have answered your question/challenge by just pointing out all the stuff that was flying around after RG3's knee turned into spaghetti. Mike could have just come clean, but instead we got a different story at literally every press conference. It was crazy, and I was a bit surprised you didn't remember that.

I think his year off he didn't spend watching football. I think he did an internship at the Truth Ministry of North Korea*.

I'm sure that there are some that will spin this to show how wrong that thought is

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I'm sure the naysayers won't agree but …. this is a win win for me … If Kirk does great for the rest of the season we might trade him …

If Kirk does not do well here - we still have a really good back up QB

P A T I E N C E - The Redskins will improve the product on the field if Dan Snyder just let's Scott & his FO do their jobs Dan needs to stop screwing things up and let Scott get this franchise back together

SkinsJock wrote:I'm sure the naysayers won't agree but …. this is a win win for me … If Kirk does great for the rest of the season we might trade him …

If Kirk does not do well here - we still have a really good back up QB

What makes him a really good backup QB if when given the opportunity to play he "does not do well here"??

IMO, everyone is giving Cousins waaay too much credit for a guy who hasn't proven a whole lot yet...

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There are some here that think that Kirk Cousins might even be better than Robert and you want to say he has not proven anything …

we all saw some evidence (both last year and in the pre season - maybe you discount that for some reason) of Kirk's ability - he looks like he could be a decent QB

I kind of like him being our back up - I also want to piss off all these fans here that think that something insidious is going on here

many fans think that Mike has given up on this team and his players - that is BS IMO

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Evidence in the pre-season? You sure you're not talking about Colt Brennan? Oh wait, he beat the Browns? Great. Look, I'm not saying he can't be good, but he isn't even a "great backup" until he fills in and does well over a larger sample of games. I do definitely agree about Shanahan's decision: it was the right one. Why not try to increase Kirk's trade value now that the season is lost. Why not try to humble Robert a bit? What is the harm? This is football, not kindergarten. Let's stop worrying about our QB's precious ego being hurt and get to next season in the best possible situation. IMO, that means playing Kirk for now.

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just a thought .... shanny is trying to get the last laugh follow me for a second ...... cousins plays out season shanny gets fired ..... houston hires shanny .... shanny trades for cousins same system in place already .... just a thought.