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London Coins auction Feb/Mar 2020 - beware Lot 1438 which I believe to be a F763 (more common than F8B) and Lot 1444 which appears to be an F22 with missing top leaf but when you look at pictures from the earlier sale referred to, the top leaf is clearly visible.

I recall one went for ~$15,000 at a Stacks and Bowers auction several years ago, about 2014. I wished I'd bid on the London Coins one from a few years before that which went for ~£1600 hammer. From memory.

Were they making Dreadnoughts then? I think I read that's what the ship is somewhere.

Maybe the same coin that MR sold in his list above.

Edited February 6 by oldcopper

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I recall one went for ~$15,000 at a Stacks and Bowers auction several years ago, about 2014. I wished I'd bid on the London Coins one from a few years before that which went for ~£1600 hammer. From memory.

Were they making Dreadnoughts then? I think I read that's what the ship is somewhere.

Maybe the same coin that MR sold in his list above.

Sorry! it's not a dreadnought, it's got sails of course. I should have reminded myself. I think the dreadnought's on a later pattern penny.

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This is the Royal Mint's Example Richard RMM 52 , below is the blank side and the Rubber Pattern RMM 74. Also I noticed that your example 8 on the Rare coins is the Example held by the Royal Collection Trust . Terry

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Thanks Terry, that's an interesting site. I've discovered that it holds a 3rd specimen of the QEII pattern penny (122 beads) stating that it was struck on 17 September 1952, backing up the Royal Mint's comments to me when I had my example authenticated.

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Thanks Terry, that's an interesting site. I've discovered that it holds a 3rd specimen of the QEII pattern penny (122 beads) stating that it was struck on 17 September 1952, backing up the Royal Mint's comments to me when I had my example authenticated.

I found that through a search for '1953 penny' and it was the first item. But no mention that there were two earlier patterns - where did you get that information from?

Rather pleased to have obtained a 1918H penny with a fully struck up breastplate and reasonable hair detail. It's very difficult to find specimens with a good strike to both obverse and reverse. This one is otherwise only about EF, with a tiny trace of lustre in the legend, but it's the rest of it which appealed to me. My previous one was not as good, and has been consigned to the oddments drawer.

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I see that the 2 D2 coins went for £1800 - it's probably the first time that this variety has come to market in recognisable form even though they weren't catalogued as such. It will be interesting to see what they sell on for, assuming they were bought for that reason. This sale values them at around £7-900 each.

I see that the 2 D2 coins went for £1800 - it's probably the first time that this variety has come to market in recognisable form even though they weren't catalogued as such. It will be interesting to see what they sell on for, assuming they were bought for that reason. This sale values them at around £7-900 each.

I’m afraid I got those, Richard, I will keep at least one of them. One does not appear to have the die crack on the portrait and I suppose could be an earlier strike from a known die ; the second has a long die crack on the portrait which is in a different position from the others shown on your site so at least three D2 obverse dies. Both have the ‘nipple’ colons. There is also a nice ‘triple F’ ( a well lustred one went in the last DNW for nearly a grand, but usually just £2-300) and a lovely doubled N in penny, and other little repairs of interest. I was underbidder for the V over A and lot 372 with the good F24 and F5 heavy flan and nice F1 amongst others, I was sad to have to give up there (though both my F24’s are better). I won 368 with the N over Z, F1 and a couple of nice letter repairs and more importantly what I think is an F13 ‘ N over upside down N’ in Penny, with a serif bottom right and slightly wedged diagonal as in my F33. There is a die flaw in the vicinity, we’ll see how it looks under the microscope but I am pretty convinced. It would not be a surprising error as I’ve said before.

I don't know who won it, but if I was a betting man, I would think it went to Cardiff, to the guy who has the other three (3)!

It's interesting Bob. Hiram had the two F90's in his collection, the first of which went on 12th February, also at a DNW auction, for less than half the price of the latest one. The first one did have a bit of a ding from obverse to reverse, but otherwise wasn't too bad. At any rate, I wouldn't have thought it was worth just half of today's offering, which is sub fine, but issue free.

£5,500 hammer, and off the top of my head calculation wise, a bit over £7k with the premium.