Re: You Can Fool...

Originally Posted by ROOT

could you cite your source for these specific allegations or are some of the assumptions? I just don't wanna spread fake facts

They are guilty of spreading incorrect/fake/false/misleading information to the masses who believe it. Much of their rhetoric contains "dog whistles which is effective when calling the 'dogs' to action.

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Re: You Can Fool...

Originally Posted by ROOT

I'm sorry, the original article you cited was composed from so many secondary and multiple reposted sources, I don't recall were Morgan Stanley comes into the equation. I posted the numbers and their sources that do not appear to jive between Kumar Galhotra and Mike Levine, falling share prices have little to do with whats important to the majority of Americans who are directly affected by ford's employment and profit. Futures contracts for U.S. hot-rolled coil steel have fallen to about $750 a ton since hitting a fresh multiyear high of $935 on June 11, It appears to be as much gouging as speculation that brought steel cost up and that is even settling back down.

China imports a lot of scrap from the US, but most of its production is from imported ore from Australia and Brazil if I understood the sources i read correctly.

No, I am sorry. I didn't think that two 2 sources were a lot, Ford and Morgan Stanley. You actually used the figure put out by Morgan Stanley in your post.

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Originally Posted by Fastcar

No, I am sorry. I didn't think that two 2 sources were a lot, Ford and Morgan Stanley. You actually used the figure put out by Morgan Stanley in your post.

What i didn't expand on is that the source cited , cited another publication , it took multiple layers to get to the original sources , I didn't spend much time memorizing what loaf the bread crumbs each came from.

The point is the numbers are at odds with the claims of benefit to Americans. I don't necessarily consider whats good for the share price to be an exclusively American public's Interest that should dictate foreign policy.

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Re: You Can Fool...

Originally Posted by ROOT

but who are the real haters.

Hmmm, maybe those who adamantly oppose the president that is currently in the White House? The unemployed and 'skirt hugging basement dwellers' who were used to getting free stuff? Those who came out of the basement after finding out they had to grow TFU and get a job for once? Those who oppose a president who is not afraid to do his job? Those who oppose a president who is not afraid to stand up against rogue leadership in other countries? Those groups who voted for and who Barack created and is still guiding to this very day along with Soros? Those who oppose a president...Awww I could go on and on.....You can see who they are by their writings and their actions everywhere we look. Why soooooo much hate?? These are not good people and they've proved that clearly. They don't want to protest, they want violence, they want to fight and hurt people. Arrest them all and lock them up for a period of time so they have time to think about the way they go about protesting anything. I am all for peaceful protests but these clowns fall far short of anything civil by their writings and protesting tactics!

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And here is the "leader of the pack," the leader who encourages haters,

Would you say that I am crazy if I vote for a Democrat? I certainly wouldn't say you were crazy for voting for a Republican.

I certainly don't think you're crazy, its more like when someone who you love has started smoking crack, and you just can't bring them around to see they have been manipulated by the dealer. And it's not a healthy herbal medicine. I saw Hilariy's latest ad she still hasn't figured it out, "they are bad" still does not tell me what her game plan is. I'm not falling for it. For the first time in my life i will be voting a straight ticket red line on every single vote. To send a message to the Democratic party. I'm not signing up with this behavior, I'm more comfortable with the idiocy and rediculess than with the nefarious, who, will not, can not , tell me what their Specific goals are or how we are going to get there. THIS POTUS HAS CLEARLY FULLFILLED SEVERAL SPECIFIC ASSURTIONS MADE IN THE CAMPAIGN. EVEN THOUGH I MAY NOT LIKE SOME DETAILS, I CAN TRUST HIM TO TAKE THE BUS ON THE ROAD WE AGREED TO. And when we come to a detour I'm confident that he will drive it home. And I really hope he punches that guy who attempts to clean our windshield at intersection , squarely in the face.

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You know Hillary is not the only Democrat in the United States, I did not vote for her in 2016 nor can I imagine the circumstances where I would vote for her in the future. However, I am certainly going to vote for the Democrat Clarke Tucker who is running against the Republican French Hill for The House of Representatives.

I can assure you I am an independent thinker and am not under any influence nor been manipulated by any “dealer” or anyone else for that matter. What does influence me is the total lack of anything resembling integrity, honesty, empathy or decency coming from trump or those in Congress who have abdicated their responsibility to be an equal branch of government and to keep check and balances. The man frequently commits malfeasance and puts his own interest before the best interest of the rest of the country. The liar-in-chief is out spreading lies, causing divisions and hate on a daily basis and because the stock market is up that is okay? And now the f’n idiot is trying to suggest that “the Democrats” have organized the “caravan” of people who are fleeing violence and an untenable life in their homeland. The man can’t string 10 words together without lying.

And no matter how bad a person that anyone thinks Hillary is, it doesn’t make trump a decent human being. That is like thinking that the Boston Strangler was so bad that it makes Ted Bundy a great guy—they are both equally bad.

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And now the f’n idiot is trying to suggest that “the Democrats” have organized the “caravan” of people who are fleeing violence and an untenable life in their homeland.

It might not be the Democrats that organized the caravan but someone did.
4000 did not just get up and leave. There had to be some planning involved.
As for 'fleeing violence' you are fooling yourself. They are the violence. Look at what happened at the Southern border.
If they were truly seeking asylum, there are plenty of consulates between Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala!

Just for haha's, What if it was a group of Russians, waving the Russian flag as they trampled over guards at a border?

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Re: You Can Fool...

Originally Posted by sundealer

It might not be the Democrats that organized the caravan but someone did.
4000 did not just get up and leave. There had to be some planning involved.
As for 'fleeing violence' you are fooling yourself. They are the violence. Look at what happened at the Southern border.
If they were truly seeking asylum, there are plenty of consulates between Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala!

Just for haha's, What if it was a group of Russians, waving the Russian flag as they trampled over guards at a border?

Don’t assume that because I pointed out the liar’s lies that I am in favor of throwing open the borders because I am not...but that doesn’t excuse the frigging lying.

There are people (coyotes) that make a living by guiding groups to/across the borders. And then there are others that exploit and prey upon the coyotes’ “customers. And Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer aren’t amongst them.

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