The conservative talk show host, who had been an upbeat, if initially doubtful, Romney supporter throughout the campaign, was on a post-election downer:

In a country of children where the option is Santa Claus or work, what wins? And say what you want, but Romney did offer a vision of traditional America. In his way, he put forth a great vision of traditional America, and it was rejected. It was rejected in favor of a guy who thinks that those who are working arent doing enough to help those who arent. And that resonated.

Limbaugh echoed a Republican theme that was voiced before and after the election: Barack Obama has unleashed a coalition of Americans who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it  that thats an entitlement. And the government should give it to them  as Mitt Romney put it in his notorious commentary on the 47 percent.

You can find this message almost everywhere on the right side of the spectrum. The Heritage Foundation, for example, annually calculates an Index of Dependence on Government, which grows every year:

Today, more people than ever before depend on the federal government for housing, food, income, student aid, or other assistance once considered to be the responsibility of individuals, families, neighborhoods, and churches. The United States reached another milestone in 2010: For the first time in history, half the population pays no federal income taxes. It is the conjunction of these two trendshigher spending on dependence-creating programs, and an ever-shrinking number of taxpayers who pay for these programsthat concerns those interested in the fate of the American form of government.

“In broader terms, the political confrontation pits taxpayers, who now form the core of the center-right coalition, against tax consumers who form the core of the center-left. According to the Tax Policy Center, 46.4 percent of all tax filers had no federal income tax liability in 2011...”

“In effect, the 21st century version of class conflict sets the stage for an exceptionally bitter face-off between the left and the right in Congress.”

Yes, indeed.

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posted on 11/19/2012 1:18:18 PM PST
by polymuser
("We have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!" (HRC))

“In effect, the 21st century version of class conflict sets the stage for an exceptionally bitter face-off between the left and the right in Congress.”
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I think that they don’t understand the true meaning of early 20th century class warfare in it’s practical application as conducted by its inventors.

Martins Latsis, the senior official in the CHEKA, (Extraordinary Commission, or the first Soviet political police) was also the theoretician of the Red Terror, stated that

Bolsheviks “are not carrying out war against individuals. We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class. We are not looking for evidence or witnesses to reveal deeds or words against the Soviet power. The first question we ask is to what class does he belong, what are his origins, upbringing, education or profession? These questions define the fate of the accused. This is the essence of the Red Terror.”

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posted on 11/19/2012 1:29:44 PM PST
by Covenantor
("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)

And in the new iteration, people like the New York Times staff will be hauled outside their building, lined up against a wall, and shot dead.

It depends on whether the "moderate" group or the "extremist" group gained power. The Russian royal family was originally spared in 1917. George C. Scott played the film role of moderate revolutionary. He was to let the Czar and family go to England. The extremists then threw the moderates out and the Russian royal family were shot dead. Malea, females and child.

Excuse this ramble, but the aerial view of Thomas Friedman's ( NYT) woodland mansion and even another house has been often shown. One could not for one moment, imagine Mr Friedman being allowed to remain "the lord of all he surveys". First he goes to the small house with swimming pool, if he is lucky. If the other extremists get in, he gets a trailer and lumps it.

I have not encountered such folly for years of people shilling for a sharing of the wealth. This and supporting the demagogues that preach it. Then expect to live in a vacuum, mansions, luxury condos, country retreats etc.

I agree. Redistribution is universal, until normalcy settles in, and then the party officials grant dispensations to the new privileged class, themselves.

I have a hard time with the concept of moderates here, because as I touched on earlier, folks will never follow the progression of these ideologies by choice.

As they fight the new system, more and more legislation is required, to force them to comply. And when they still don’t, physical force is required. The freedom the idiots think is their right today, to complain, dies up front. You don’t publicly complain under these systems, and if your neighbor is on the state payroll, you basically can’t open your yap other than to breath and eat. And as Socialist societies always evolve, breathing and eating also comes under control

You’re very existence is by permission from the state.

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posted on 11/19/2012 2:04:44 PM PST
by DoughtyOne
(Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)

That was a crime what happened to the Tsars. Unfortunately, some of my ancestors and family fought on the Red side in Russia, my great-great grandfather, supposedly he knew Lenin. If I was around then with the mind I have now, I’d say, “sorry gramps, but I have to fight you because I fight for what it right.”

I think many of the yung’uns will get it. Most of the ones I know do, at leastm ost of them say, “too many people think the world and society owes them everything.” As to things like same sex marriage, well, perhaps not as strong, but if they figure things out where we are all entitled to be left alone as long as we don’t harm others and we keep our stuff we work for, I would consider that a win.

You a lot more hopeful than I. When I deal with the Thirty and Unders, not only am I struck by their total and complete ambivalence on any issue of real substance, but by the gaping holes in their knowledge base.

I am the product of a far-from-wealthy public school district and a fair to middlin’ public university. And a lot of these kids have expensive private school degrees. And I am continually blown away by how I appear to be WAAAAAAYYYYY better educated than any of them.

Most of what I deal with are working class although I’ve seen a few that come from wealthy backgrounds but most of them are pretty much the same where they think that no one owes them a living and they have to work for it. Hopefully for the rest, reality will step in and teach them a lesson.

People should read this article. It provides abundant confirmation of Rush Limbaugh's point about the meaning of this election. This line is the bottom line:

In broader terms, the political confrontation [now underway] pits taxpayers, who now form the core of the center-right coalition, against tax consumers who form the core of the center-left.

No indication here of how the tax consumers are going to respond if the taxpayers resist. But they are not expected to resist: As Edsell rightly notes, they are a permanent and diminishing minority, quite unlikely to regain power in the increasingly socialist future.

I found it interesting that the race for 2016 has already begun. Rubio is already in Iowa and Christie is on SNL.
I can’t ever imagine Christie as president, but his tactic is more effective to this new demographic than Rubio’s rubber chicken circuit.

The Marxist did most of his campaigning on the late night shows and the moronic afternoon programs like the View and Ellen. The guy is an idiot, but he knows his voters.

Yeah, I know. I kept thinking this was like 1980, but we are not the same nation we were then. B-(

I'm tired out from the election, too busy looking for work to see 2016, I'm worried about 2013. I really don't care for Rubio or Christie, Rubio is being chosen because he panders to the Mexican and Hispanic voters, if we have to pander, forget it. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of selling out. Christie, he sucked up to the Bamster so that's a no go with me. Care to join me so we can dig up Ronald Reagan and run him as "Zombie Reagan 2016?" B-) B-P

The Marxist did most of his campaigning on the late night shows and the moronic afternoon programs like the View and Ellen. The guy is an idiot, but he knows his voters.

One more thing, welcome to reality TV and "Dance with the Stars" campaigning. If you go back, I doubt that the past Presidents like Hoover, Lincoln, Jackson, McKinley and so on would be elected now.

I often said that we need a "jerkass" in there that would tell the truth, be it in the House, Senate or Presidency and would not back down, cave in or apologize. WE need somebody like a Dr. House from "House." I'd love to be in that position where the libs and the press ask me questions and taunt me, I'd be telling them where to get off, the truth of our economy and so on as I walk out with a 1980's era Don Johnson beard and in my bathrobe. Well maybe not the bathrobe but we need somebody was a tough attitude that will not back down.

I enjoyed your comments Nowhere Man, and I hope you find that job soon. Does this qualify you for an Obamaphone ?

As to your ‘jerkass’ suggestion, I’ve been posting more than half seriously that one of the coolest guys the republicans could put up for 2016 is Dennis Miller. He’s conservative, dishes it out, looks kinda latino, can jive talk, and knows his way around the glitterati and illuminati.

The republican party just isn’t hip, and, sad to say, you got to be hip in the brand new exciting dumbed down Amerika.

Yeah, I like the irascibility of Gregory House but he’s British. I always loved his un-PC quips. Check my tagline by the way.

Maybe we can get a curmudgeon like Pat Cadell to run. Also liked the way John Sununu handled the MSM idiots.

I still feel bad for Romney. Romney and Ryan was just what this country needed. Green eye shade guys.

We? You got a mouse in your pocket? Who did? I certainly didn't......Why not accept the fact that Rush is merely a conservative talk show host who talks politics and tries to analyze current events rather than make him the cause celebre' for the outcome of this election cycle?

If you want to unjustly criticize him for this election then the least you can do is give him credit for the mid term 2010 election that resulted in over 600 new Republican seats across this country.........

But it's easier to dwell on dirt and put the blame on Rush isn't it?

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posted on 11/20/2012 3:20:09 PM PST
by Hot Tabasco
(Jab her with a harpoon.....)

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