Secondly, there are safeguards against the common faults of well intended but often flawed groupthink:

What is Groupthink?Groupthink, a term coined by social psychologist Irving Janis (1972), occurs when a group makes faulty decisions because group pressures lead to a deterioration of “mental efficiency, reality testing, and moral judgment” (p. 9). Groups affected by groupthink ignore alternatives and tend to take irrational actions that dehumanize other groups. A group is especially vulnerable to groupthink when its members are similar in background, when the group is insulated from outside opinions, and when there are no clear rules for decision making.http://www.psysr.org/about/pubs_resources/groupthink overview.htm​

Remedies for GroupthinkDecision experts have determined that groupthink may be prevented by adopting some of the following measures:

a) The leader should assign the role of critical evaluator to each member

b) The leader should avoid stating preferences and expectations at the outset

c) Each member of the group should routinely discuss the groups' deliberations with a trusted associate and report back to the group on the associate's reactions

d) One or more experts should be invited to each meeting on a staggered basis. The outside experts should be encouraged to challenge views of the members.

e) At least one articulate and knowledgeable member should be given the role of devil's advocate (to question assumptions and plans)

[QUOTE="UBNaturally, post: 948896, member: 51777"And this is why it must be looked at from different angles, because the typical and usual angles haven't been working as far as I have seen... but many tend to follow trends and group think, which does nothing but regurgitate similar motifs without any motion towards a near conclusion.

Much of that which comes is highly rhetoric and reactionary hate in return.

First, one has to look at the concept and development of "hate" in general, which was what my posts attempted to do (went over the heads of "some", but it is what it is).

By the way, we (me and you) have been having a respectful discourse and conversation, so this is why you may be receiving more of the direct interaction as opposed to "others". KICKING YOU CYBERSPACE TROLLS/BATTERING RAMS around IS FUN, how, why is it my fault that it is so easy to put you JOKERS to the sword?

Expound on what one considers "hate" to be, and how it derives?
This should be near the base of the deconstruction in my opinion at least.

Respect/QUOTE]

Aren’t most people [especially UBNaturally] totally unaware of the still so devastating impact TODAY of Europe’s first technical culture’s thinkers generally, Platonic thought specifically whose so obviously fundamentally flawed CONCEIT with regard to the very spiritually and intellectually alienated concept of OBJECTIVITY is still utilized constantly TODAY [all of which is analysed/dissected superbly in the book “Yurugu – An African centered critique of European Cultural Thought and Behaviour” by Marimba Ani]; along with his separation of mind and body/limbic brain drivel, which is what to this day continues to define Europeans/Whites as Humanity’s BRAIN, reducing the rest of Humanity into OBJECTS/limbs to be manipulated, controlled, culled as Europeans see fit, as opposed to human beings with the same inalienable human rights with regard freedom of expression, lifestyle and self determination in every area of human activity?

Augustus Caesar [Julius Caesar’s heir/nephew] took the onslaught on non-whites generally, people of African ethnicity specifically to another level didn’t he, when he had the most spectacular pyramid ever built [the lower third was clad in red granite whereas the great pyramids still standing were only clad in white limestone] at Abu Rawash systematically destroyed [easily the worst act of cultural vandalism on the historical record] so as to delete Djedefrah [who commissioned the sculpting of the Sphinx with his father Khufu’s face to honour him] and Khufu [builder of the great pyramid at Giza from history] from history; probably enraged by the cult of these 2 Nubian Pharaohs still being so very strong [thousands of Pilgrims constantly] 2500 years after their death?

Additionally UBNaturally,where and when have I expressed any HATRED for anything other than the conscious ignorance total DENIAL that White Supremacist Racists display as standard [if that hat fits, wear it] with regard to some of the worst unacknowledged [as opposed to apologizing, paying reparations and at least stopping the ongoing onslaught/ their alleged WAR ON TERROR] crimes against Humanity on the historical record [or are YOU going to be specific as to which of the assertions above aren’t FACTUAL], with regard to which we’re supposed to turn the other cheek, are we [as our community in the USA continue to persecuted and incarcerated by the institutionally racist police and judiciary]; or are you rationally asserting that we commit over 50% of the crime in the USA, US being over 50% of the prison population reflects; with even very very public executions/murder of our youth/people by whites generally, the police specifically, ALWAYS sanctioned with those so very despicably cowardly criminals in policemen’s uniforms keeping their jobs as opposed to at least being sacked, prosecuted and subsequently jailed for life]?

Isn’t ANYONE who genuinely believes they are not programmed
graphically illustrating that their programming is COMPLETE?​

Taking advantage of them for capital gain of wealth and resources, until they see them as nothing more than an object of the pursuit of happiness for the wealth oligarchs... continuing to desire more through greed and strength by way of violence and intimidation techniques.

Without "hate", humans couldn't go through with any of this, so where does "hate" come from?
Hate is basically like a strong drink that masks the wretchedness within the nature of the person to commit the evil that they would be instructed to do or consider to do.

Sometimes I ask friends and family that were in the armed forces about killing other humans, and in their response one can see that "hate" did not consume them, though they probably had to tap into it in order to kill another man, woman, or child in order to liberate them from their situation.

PTSD, or Post Traumatic Stress Disorder can be linked to PHD, Post Hate Disorder.
The adrenaline rush of hate can be intoxicating, and if one allows it to completely consume them, it usually stays with them until they reach an old age.

By the way, I think I also pointed out how the author of that post erroneously used images of Africans with white paint on as part of their thesis.

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They were not whitening their skin in these accompanying images, though there may be instances which this did occur.

These young men were going through a circumcision ritual as a rite of passage into "manhood".

Not only that, why would "black nobility" have a need to turn white to fit in with a perceived lower class? *scratching head*​

That is an interesting, but diluted theory along with making the "black nobility" seem weak as well.

Could we imagine Afrikaners, Boers, etc trying to turn black so they can keep control of South Africa?

Or America doing the same, making their "white elect" to turn black?
Ok, Barack Obama... but we wont go there.

This is a complex topic, and thus shall disregard but respect "emotional tangents" on it. /QUOTE]

Nice try, as an integral part of your ongoing attempt to universalize as the human condition the concerted maliciously EVIL onslaught on the rest of Humanity by the European collective of over 2000 years duration, but where is your evidence [explanation as to why Alexander the Macedonian peasant burnt the beautiful completely unfortified Persian capital to the ground, along with the manner in which Augustus Caesar had the most spectacular pyramid ever built{ at Abu Rawash} dismantled so as to remove its builder Djedefrah {had the Sphinx sculpted with Khufu’s face} and his father Khufu who built the great pyramid at Giza from history]?

Even your attempts to focus on these white face painted African primitives is fundamentally flawed isn’t it, as you genuinely aren’t aware are you of the fact that in traditional African cultures democracy was vibrantly alive; their Kings weren’t the autocratic monarchs still blighting Europeans today, as if they didn’t behave responsibly in the people’s best interests they could be removed from power by the Council of Elders [much to the recorded annoyance of early European colonisers who placed Black puppet Kings in charge to try to get control]?

What about the manner in which the African Olmecs established and ruled Mexico’s first technical culture [as so spectacularly highlighted by the 17 Olmec Heads unearthed to date] without utilizing their superior technology to make the indigenous peoples a permanents underclass in their homelands?

Not meaning to cause a distraction within this thread /QUOTE]If you really aren't yet another one of this site's plague of CURTROLL/ PALEFACE cyberspace BATTERING RAMS, how comes you always get a "migraine" when asked to reply/respond to some of the drivel [above] that you've posted in this thread?

Isn’t ANYONE who genuinely believes they are not programmed
graphically illustrating that their programming is COMPLETE?​

I also feel and think we also would be more of an asset: I. e., by actually coming up with mutually agreeded means to undo the damage brought about by centuries of our black folks exploitation and oppression in these so called united states of (north) america...

Abu l-Hasan Ali Ibn Nafi – who was also known as Ziryab (black singing bird in Arabic) and Pájaro Negro (blackbird) in Spanish- was a polymath, with knowledge in astronomy, geography, meteorology, botanics, cosmetics, culinary art and fashion. He is known for starting a vogue by changing clothes according to the weather and season. He also suggested different clothing for mornings, afternoons and evenings.

He created a deodorant to eliminate bad odors, promoted morning and evening baths, and emphasized maintaining personal hygiene. Ziryab is believed to have invented an early toothpaste, which he popularized throughout Islamic Iberia – primarily in Spain.

He made fashionable shaving among men and set new haircut trends. Royalty used to wash their hair with rosewater, but Ziryab introduced salt and fragrant oils to improve the hair’s condition.

Abu l-Hasan Ali Ibn Nafi – who was also known as Ziryab (black singing bird in Arabic) and Pájaro Negro (blackbird) in Spanish- was a polymath, with knowledge in astronomy, geography, meteorology, botanics, cosmetics, culinary art and fashion. He is known for starting a vogue by changing clothes according to the weather and season. He also suggested different clothing for mornings, afternoons and evenings.

He created a deodorant to eliminate bad odors, promoted morning and evening baths, and emphasized maintaining personal hygiene. Ziryab is believed to have invented an early toothpaste, which he popularized throughout Islamic Iberia – primarily in Spain.

He made fashionable shaving among men and set new haircut trends. Royalty used to wash their hair with rosewater, but Ziryab introduced salt and fragrant oils to improve the hair’s condition.

African people were the first people anywhere in the world to use counting to keep track of their things, or maybe to keep track of time. Around 35,000 BC, somebody in South Africa made the earliest known counting stick, or tally stick, and left it in Lebombo Cave. Somebody cut 29 notches into the stick.http://quatr.us/africa/science/numbers.htm

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of Enki....M.Williamson

Spirit is the Life, Mind is the Builder, and the Physical is the Result.

BROTHER HOOD OF THE SNAKE The Lips of Wisdom Are closed, Except To The Ears Of Understanding.​

The Principle Of Truth Is SEVENAND I WAS IN THE DARKNESS, SO THE DARKNESS I BECAME.9X9X9 TO 9THPOWER​