My GFW theories

My GFW theories

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:05 pm

by Dogora

I know I probably will probably get flamed for these, but I personally think that the GFW Godzilla is the Godzilla from Godzilla Raids Again, King Kong vs. Godzilla, and Godzilla vs. Mothra. And I also hypothesize that the Mu invasion happened in the GFW timeline, as well as the events of Varan, Frankenstein vs. Baragon, and Space Amoeba also occured.

I believe the reason why the Gotengo cannot use it's absolute zero cannon anymore is that after the Jinguji debacle, the Gotengo was sold to Akira Nakao's character. Due to an operator error, the Absolute Zero cannon was disabled.

Re: My GFW theories

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:14 pm

by Benjamin Haines

Dogora wrote:I personally think that the GFW Godzilla is the Godzilla from Godzilla Raids Again, King Kong vs. Godzilla, and Godzilla vs. Mothra.

Re: My GFW theories

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:43 pm

by Rodanex

Dogora wrote:I personally think that the GFW Godzilla is the Godzilla from Godzilla Raids Again, King Kong vs. Godzilla, and Godzilla vs. Mothra. And I also hypothesize that the Mu invasion happened in the GFW timeline, as well as the events of Varan, Frankenstein vs. Baragon, and Space Amoeba also occured.

I believe the reason why the Gotengo cannot use it's absolute zero cannon anymore is that after the Jinguji debacle, the Gotengo was sold to Akira Nakao's character.

Why?

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:14 pm

by Legion

Dogora, just stop ok.

Your trying way to hard to connect the showa movies to Final Wars. Especially in the case of the movie Atragon, it just doesn't fit.

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:09 am

by Irish Gfan

Well in all fairness, Godzilla: Final Wars makes no references to past films or any events prior to what we see in the movie itself, so you could easily connect it to any films in the series if you really wanted to.

Its probably not worth trying to figure anything out though as it seems like the film was meant to be stand alone.

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:54 am

by ebirahsmeg1

Irish Gfan wrote:Well in all fairness, Godzilla: Final Wars makes no references to past films or any events prior to what we see in the movie itself, so you could easily connect it to any films in the series if you really wanted to.

Its probably not worth trying to figure anything out though as it seems like the film was meant to be stand alone.

I think many Gfans spend *waaaaaaay* too much time worrying about "continuity" (it's literally an obsession with some). Personally, I liked the approach Godzilla 2000 Millenium took in that it makes no reference to Godzilla's origin (unlike the following films which seemed to include 1954 flashbacks as if it were a mandate/requirement)...it leaves it up to the viewer and thier imagination to decide how a certain movie is or isn't connected to past films or timelines. GFW took a somewhat similar approach...true, many could argue about dates given for G's first battle with the Atragon/Gotengo/whatever at the film's opening (I've heard everything from the 1960s to 19XX), but other than that, it pretty much leaves it up to the viewer to decide how it ties in with past films, instead of beating the viewer over the head with "it must be connected with the showa/heisei/original film!"

I thought GxMG in particular handled this extremely poorly...it just shows Godzilla first appearence since 1954, then magically (and conveniently), he's not seen from again during MechaGodzilla's entire development/construction (nevermind that deciding to contruct a life sized robot of a giant monster who has only been seen once in 50+ years isn't an absurd enough scenerio as it is, event for a giant monster movie flick), then magically appears right on cue right after MG is completed.

And the one series where they tried to emphasise continuity, they ending up just creating a mess and controversy (heisei series and the events of GvsKG). I thought the subtle way some of the early showa films handled continuity is the best route to go as they rarely made direct references to past appearences/events (ie GvsTheThing, GTTHM, and GvsMonsterZero; GvsMG/TOMG, plus very understanded, ambiguous references to kaiju who already appeared in the series ala KG's, Mothra's, Rodan, and Anguirus' multiple appearences, Minilla, Gigan Kumonga, Baragon, Manda, Varan, etc.).

I know I probably will probably get flamed for these, but I personally think that the GFW Godzilla is the Godzilla from Godzilla Raids Again, King Kong vs. Godzilla, and Godzilla vs. Mothra. And I also hypothesize that the Mu invasion happened in the GFW timeline, as well as the events of Varan, Frankenstein vs. Baragon, and Space Amoeba also occured.

I believe the reason why the Gotengo cannot use it's absolute zero cannon anymore is that after the Jinguji debacle, the Gotengo was sold to Akira Nakao's character. Due to an operator error, the Absolute Zero cannon was disabled._________________

Not flaming, but that scenerio does sound rediculous (most fans obsessed with continuity are reaching way too far when trying to connect a film to a certain timeline. As Legion said, trying to fit the events of the original Atragon film into GFW's timeline is *REALLY REACHING*). But as I said, some films leave it open for the viewer to decided, so if that's how you want to fit GFW in with the showa series, then good for you (though the rest of us will probably agree to disagree)...it's part of the fun of being a fan.