July 26, 2011

Anders Breivik made internet contact with the EDL just months before carrying out his killing spree. In other online postings, he claims to have had discussions with members as long ago as 2009.

Channel 4 News has also learned that:

• Breivik posted anti-Muslim messages on the German Defence League's website in February

• Breivik claimed Norwegian police had taken down his NDL website in the same month and placed him and others on a "danger list"

• Large sections of his manifesto were made up of comments posted on a politics website two years ago

• One of the chilling comments on the politics website reads: 'It is children... who end up as victims'

The news that Breivik was in contact with the EDL earlier this year comes as the group's leader retracted a denial that the group had ever had contact with the man behind the killing of at least 76 people in a bomb blast and a series of shootings in Norway on Friday.

Stephen Lennon said: "It could turn out that one of our members met with him but at this point we're not turning anything up."

Anti-fascist organisation Searchlight has trawled through the English Defence League's online forums and claims that Breivik used the pseudonym "Sigurd Jorsalfare", a 12th century King of Norway who led one of the Crusades, when he exchanged messages of support with members in March.

Breivik's introductory message reads: "Hello to you all good English men and women, just wanted to say that you're a blessing to all in Europe, in these dark times all of Europe are looking to you in surch (sic) of inspiration, courage and even hope that we might turn this evil trend with islamisation all across our continent. Well, just wanted to say keep up the good work it's good to see others that care about their country and heritage."

The post received positive replies from three EDL members, one of whom exchanged messages with Breivik about the perceived problems facing both countries.

The 32-year-old admitted that he had been in England in the past few years, sarcastically noting that "me and a friend walked down to the football stadium of Bradford, real 'nice' neighborhood, same thing in the suburbs of London".

Breivik then added that he was planning to travel to Britain to attend an EDL demo, saying "(it would be) nice with a Norwegian flag alongside with union jack or the English flag… it's our common struggle against the islamofacists (sic)."

And days before, Breivik was also active on the German Defence League's forum, Channel 4 News has discovered.gdl breivik

Using the same moniker, he wrote "...For anyone who might be intrested (sic) in our common struggle but further north, our site is http://norwegiandefenceleague.wordpress.com/...keep fighting on, we cannot surrender Europe to these crazy islamists..."

The NDL has distanced itself from Breivik but had not responded to a request for a comment about the comments at the time of publication.

Perhaps the most concerning claims made in Breivik's postings on the Defence Leagues' sites is that Norwegian police shut down the NDL website and blacklisted its members.

"I was (a member) but the site has been put down now…there was to be a demo in Oslo on the 26 of February, but after the police security service put us on the 'danger-list' the internet site was sadly shut down," he wrote in a post.

It has also emerged that much of Breivik’s near-1,500-page anti-Muslim manifesto was a compilation of comments he had posted between 2009-10 on a Norwegian political website.

"It is often the children of the boundless(ly) naive and Marxist kids who end up as victims," he wrote on Document.no in 2009, asking like-minded people to contact him on his email address "year2083", the title of his manifesto.

Breivik's manifesto claim that he had discussed strategies with EDL members also appears on the site in a post left in 2009, suggesting a longer association than previously reported.

On Monday, Channel 4 News revealed the extent of the EDL's influence over the NDL. In March, Hel Gower, a leading figure in the EDL hierarchy, posted a comment on the NDL's Facebook page, saying her group had ruled on problems caused by the latter's leadership vacuum and appointed an interim head.

There are currently about 50 police officers from around Europe assigned to a specialist unit in The Hague attempting to piece together Breivik's links to far-right groups in the UK and the continent.

The Independent has also learned that Lena Andreassen, the leader of the Norwegian Defence League, a group that Breivik claimed to have co-founded, attended an EDL demonstration in May last year. A picture taken from a photo-sharing site shows Ms Andreassen wearing a steward's vest at the demonstration, suggesting contact with organisers of the march.

Breivik's boasts of forging contacts in Britain have prompted a wide-ranging review of activity by far-right groups associated with violence. The security checks were ordered yesterday at a meeting of the National Security Council, chaired by David Cameron. Detectives are examining whether there is any suggestion that former members of neo-Nazi groups are trying to regroup.

A hardcore of activists on the extreme right accuses the British National Party of selling out by embracing electoral politics. Police are now investigating whether any have turned to violence or made links with terrorist organisations in Europe or North America.

A court in Oslo very sensibly, in the circumstances, denied a public platform to the man who perpetrated both the bombing and the massacre in Norway. But the BBC, within hours of his appearance in court, stepped into the vacuum on Newsnight and provided the English Defence League with an opportunity for a lengthy party political broadcast, on behalf of a group with whom the murderer claimed in his manifesto to have had close links and with whom he had been impressed. This is neither the time nor the place for such untrammelled bigotry.

The massacre in Norway has rightly been condemned by all. Anders Behring Breivik's apparent link to British far-right organisations, including members of the English Defence League, and the ease with which he could co-ordinate with fellow extremists using the internet, must ring alarm bells in the government. The National Security Council meeting on Monday was timely. However, with the far right missing from the recent Prevent strategy, it is now time for the government to begin tackling the far right with the same zero tolerance it has shown to those who propagated terrorism in Ireland and also those who use Islam to justify violence. The home affairs select committee hopes to look at all these issues when we begin our next inquiry into the roots of violent radicalisation.

The far right has been working hard for some time to get around what I call the ‘Hitler Problem’ , so they have been casting about for new ideological platforms with which to further their agenda and find an ‘In’- it seems they have struck on the ideas of the ‘Revolutionary Conservatism’ which was contemporaneous with Nazism and classical Fascism…Rightist ‘intellectuals’ such as Carl Schmitt, Oswald Spengler, Julius Evola and Ernst Junger are now the inspiring theorists. It seems Breivik was also inspired by the mythology of the Knights Templar, which, as a unifying force in medieval europe against Islam, has supplanted the Waffen SS as an ideal of an authoritarian european ethno-nationalism…These ideas are being spread in an insidious way throughout Europe and America via musical subcultures such as the neo-folk, martial music and post-industrial scenes…Breivik’s take (according to his ‘manifesto’ 2083 ) on marxism=socialism=liberalism, is however, classical nazi thinking…These fuckers need to be combatted, on the street, online and in any other way possible, because it is not just working class youth being attracted to the ideas-

‘ . . . the only meaningful resistance at this point in time is to use military force. So instead of monkey-screaming, they should instead focus on strategically demolishing one of the many British nuclear power plants, which effectively would completely cripple the British economy.’

The whole ‘Cultural Marxism’ schtick is an ideological throw-back to Nazism, and its concept of ‘Cultural Bolshevism’- this embraced everything from Jazz and swing music, Cubism, Dadaism, and any modernist art movement, Bauhaus architecture, the Berlin Cabaret scene, sex-research, Bertold Brecht, neon lighting in cities, all the way through to Hollywood movies and Franz Kafka…

In essence it was a veiled form of anti-semitism, Britvik seems to have recycled the term to attack multiculturalism, which the Nazis always blamed on ‘The Jew.

Is Daryl Hobson going to get arrested for making death threats to George Galloway, or will the EDL's blackshirts once again get away with (actually planned) murder?

I hope the squad cars are turning up noisily at his house now, awakening Daryl and his girlfriend, lights flashing, sirens sounding, arresting them publicaly, in-front of their curious neighbours, who will now realise that there is a dangerous neo-Nazi with links to the Norway child murders, living in the same street as him.

If this happens, I will go to sleep happy, with a contented smile on their faces.

Hope Alan Lake doesn't flee the country to escape justice, with his foreign connections. Although I don't know which countries would shelter him. Naziss used to go to Brazil (Boys frokm Brazil), etc, but I don't know where they could go to, now? Belarus, maybe?

I was really upset when i heard he shot young innocent kids.Then i found out they were marxist youths and laughed my arse off.No remorse here as if you lot would care if it was young BNP members killed.

I was really upset when i heard he shot young innocent kids.Then i found out they were marxist youths and laughed my arse off.No remorse here as if you lot would care if it was young BNP members killed.

2:17 AM, July 27, 2011

I've let this one through out of the many LU have received like this over the last few days.

The fact this has happened and you take some sort of pleasure out of it shows you up for what you are.You enjoy the idea of kids getting killed and I cannot really think of anything lower.

Sick-in-the head Lying nazi Yaxley Lennon continues to try to make political capital for the British far right out of the shootings.

He said "But there is a warning and what happened in Norway is a wake-up call. The fact that so many people are scared - people have to listen to that."

It seems he is keen to blame multiculturalism and immigration for what happened, and not Alan Lake's friendship with Breivik, which he continues to deny, Lake famous for his "Final Solution" in which he advocated the murder of socialists and democrats.

Mr Lennon, 28, added: "What happened in Oslo shows how desperate some people are becoming in Europe. It's a ticking time bomb. If they don't give that frustration and anger a platform as such and a voice - and a way of getting emotion out in a democratic way - it will create monsters like this lunatic."

Sounds like another threat to decent civilised society from Waxy Lemon, to me.

"What happened in Oslo shows how desperate some people are becoming in Europe. It's a ticking time bomb. If they don't give that frustration and anger a platform as such and a voice - and a way of getting emotion out in a democratic way - it will create monsters like this lunatic."

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What a f*cking moron. They were given a platform. They could march and yell as much as they want. YET this terrorist still committed mass murder. So what the f*ck is Lennon bleating about ?

Lennon is being the perfect apologist for terrorism. If anyone stated something similar about Islamic extremist terror.. hypocrites like Lennon and other right wing nutjobs would be the first to cry foul.

"I was really upset when i heard he shot young innocent kids.Then i found out they were marxist youths and laughed my arse off.No remorse here as if you lot would care if it was young BNP members killed."

Any child killed is a tragedy that is unbearable for family and friends to bear and is heartfelt by the vast majority of people. Only those lacking in any kind of basic humanity would express their thoughts the way you do.