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I was among many World Class Powerlifters even some teammates were for a good decade and the only 2 jacked guys I know that is worth the shit in the sport are 2 people I personally know especially Dan Green but also Stan Effedering and it's because of their pre powerlifting training days with Stan a World Class Bodybulider.

Look at the majority of powerlifters and strongmen they do no have great pec'c like a bodybuilder at all.

Look at powerlifters that were great that went bodybuilder after many years of powerlifting they mostly all lack in the pecs.
I know guys that press from 600lbs to 900lbs with not so great pecs in the sense of aesthetics!

Pecs are for show they do not drive a bench you lats, shoulders, triceps and LEGS drive a bench.

I'm not going to say that you didn't know people with big benches that didn't have great pecs, but that could be for other reasons. Genetics, type of training, etc. Also consider that strength is not always equivalent to muscle size.
Truth is that lats and traps are not even considered stabilizers for bench (https://exrx.net/WeightExercises/Pec...l/BBBenchPress), this obviously doesn't mean you don't have to focus on tightening the muscles to create a more stable foundation to execute the movement. The lats and traps never change size either.
The pecs do change in size and probably have the highest EMG activation compared to any other muscle when benching.

Originally Posted by SFGiants

Most people don't know how to bench and are wobbly because they don't know how to set up, get tight, stay tight and drive a bench.

Gravity, but it's not an option, or a muscle. Man I suck at this types of tests.
Seriously though, I still have to say chest, and to a lesser degree delts and triceps. Lats and legs don't even participate in the movement.

I'm not going to say that you didn't know people with big benches that didn't have great pecs, but that could be for other reasons. Genetics, type of training, etc. Also consider that strength is not always equivalent to muscle size.
Truth is that lats and traps are not even considered stabilizers for bench (https://exrx.net/WeightExercises/Pec...l/BBBenchPress), this obviously doesn't mean you don't have to focus on tightening the muscles to create a more stable foundation to execute the movement. The lats and traps never change size either.
The pecs do change in size and probably have the highest EMG activation compared to any other muscle when benching.

I want to say chest but I feel I'm gonna fail the test.

Gravity, but it's not an option, or a muscle. Man I suck at this types of tests.
Seriously though, I still have to say chest, and to a lesser degree delts and triceps. Lats and legs don't even participate in the movement.

How about you learn instead of trying to teach guys that have decades more experience than you? You’ve barely started training.

We keep the back tight as it can possibly be with our traps dug deep into the bench ( we have special benches like the Forza ) keeping our elbows tucked bending the bar not with hands per say but by squeezing our lats tight all the way down

Improper set up during leg drive is what causes the ass to come up.

I competed for many years training very hardcore 4 days a week on a schedule with my team even on holidays like Christmas, we didn't mess around we got shit done.

I had over 6 grand in equipment in that gym I had my own monolift. I wasn't even an owner of the gym!

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Honestly I don't know one bodybuilder that gives 1 shit about the flat bench!

They are more about seated, incline, decline and most of all cross-cables, dumbbell work and pec deck stuff.

I was always told since the 90's by jacked bodybuilders the flat bench is the least effective movement for chest development.

I'm not saying the chest don't get stimulated by the bench press I am saying it DON'T move the bar in any direction and is by far not the most used muscle, your glutes are used more then the damn chest if you really know how to press weight.

We keep the back tight as it can possibly be with our traps dug deep into the bench ( we have special benches like the Forza ) keeping our elbows tucked bending the bar not with hands per say but by squeezing our lats tight all the way down

Improper set up during leg drive is what causes the ass to come up.

I competed for many years training very hardcore 4 days a week on a schedule with my team even on holidays like Christmas, we didn't mess around we got shit done.

I had over 6 grand in equipment in that gym I had my own monolift. I wasn't even an owner of the gym!

I wanna slap this douche bag very hard lol.

Show me one real person with real qualifications (other than "I know 3 really cool powerlifters and my gym is expensive") that verifies what you are saying.

Originally Posted by SFGiants

Honestly I don't know one bodybuilder that gives 1 shit about the flat bench!

They are more about seated, incline, decline and most of all cross-cables, dumbbell work and pec deck stuff.

I was always told since the 90's by jacked bodybuilders the flat bench is the least effective movement for chest development.

I'm not saying the chest don't get stimulated by the bench press I am saying it DON'T move the bar in any direction and is by far not the most used muscle, your glutes are used more then the damn chest if you really know how to press weight.

Let's do an experiment. Load the bar with 300lbs, and push really hard with your glutes without involving your chest. Then send me the hospital bill.