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Re: Basketball: Big Ten vs. Big 12

I think they would be in the post season THIS YEAR if they were healthy/eligible.

You never know, if they can win these last 3, which is very possible, and then win a game in the BTT, they'd finish at 18-15. Maybe the NIT takes a look at them, who knows?

Your point is right on - Todd has had his entire lineup available for exactly ONE conference game this year. Hell, in the last 2 games they've only played 7 guys, and 4 of those guys have played the whole game.

Re: Basketball: Big Ten vs. Big 12

SH, just guess a few more. A Purdue team we beat on a nuetral court last year (albeit a year older) is just a given to beat a top 10 team with one of the nations widest margin of victory average? Most of the others are toss ups and I see no reason why you would so blatantly pick the little eleven team. As a non-homer (way to name call prior to allowing anyone to respond), Baylor is playing the worst ball in the Big 12 right now and it's one you list as a push? Have you been watching any basketball lately?

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Re: Basketball: Big Ten vs. Big 12

I'd take the Big 10 over the Big 12, as well. Neither conference is particularly good. Both conferences lack a dominant team, but I think the Big 10 is deeper with mediocre teams. Outside of Kansas, Oklahoma, and Missouri, the Big 12 is pretty weak. Even the three teams I mentioned aren't great.

Re: Basketball: Big Ten vs. Big 12

I love both conferences, While being a die hard clone!! i did grow up an ILLINI fan so I do like both Cons the way they play. I think B12 schools might have a hard time matching up with a d team like ILL or MSU! But I think it would be a great battle if they had a tourney

Re: Basketball: Big Ten vs. Big 12

Originally Posted by Cy Hard

SH, just guess a few more. A Purdue team we beat on a nuetral court last year (albeit a year older) is just a given to beat a top 10 team with one of the nations widest margin of victory average? Most of the others are toss ups and I see no reason why you would so blatantly pick the little eleven team. As a non-homer (way to name call prior to allowing anyone to respond), Baylor is playing the worst ball in the Big 12 right now and it's one you list as a push? Have you been watching any basketball lately?

Here's why I picked Purdue over Missouri - because the one Big Ten team they played, Illlinois, they lost by 16. Since Illinois and Purdue are tied in the conference, I gave that game to the Boilers.

Why I would so "blatantly" pick a Big Ten team?

The #10 Big Ten team beat the #5 and #10 Big 12 teams
The #1 Big Ten team beat the #1 and #4 Big 12 team (Texas on the road, btw)
The #2 Big Ten team beat the #2 Big 12 team

Sorry, it's not really being a homer when the games have been proven on the court. The Big Ten is 5-2 vs. the Big 12 this year. Remember in football, when the "on the field" was the victory march by ISU fans on who was the better football conference?

Same applies to basketball. The Big Ten has dominated the Big 12 in head-to-head matchups this year. So yes, the Big Ten is better. The games on the court prove this.

So please, explain to me why the Big 12 could be considered better than the Big Ten, or how I'm being a homer by picking Big Ten teams? If you can prove this to me, then I'll be sure to use that logic next time an ISU fan tries to explain why the Big 12 was better than the Big Ten in football.

Re: Basketball: Big Ten vs. Big 12

With the youth of the Big 12 I was not surprised to see them lose so many nonconf games.

The Big 10 does have some really nice teams this year and is the best it probably has been in a long time. It is not a shock that the Big 10 is better this year.

I guess I just think that Purdue is the most over rated team in that league (after Hummels injury)

Just as Texas is very over rated in the Big 12.

I agree with this, actually.

Purdue has had good games - like the game against MSU and their OT loss at Oklahoma. However, they've also had their bad games (against Illinois, twice, and the majority of the NU game on the road).

The Big Ten is improving (finally), and is still VERY young. Most of the solid teams are chalked full of Sophomores. IMO, the Big Ten has one of the best collection of coaches as an entire conference in the country.

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