CA Voting Fraud: "Highly Susceptible"

California’s voter registration system is “highly susceptible to being compromised,” because of immigration policies protecting the Golden State’s 2.4 million illegal immigrants, authorities have told Fox News.

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“If you are talking about California, the state is apparently relying on the illegal alien to tell the state they shouldn’t be registered. There is still an honor system,” said von Spakovsky, co-author of the book “Who's Counting? How Fraudsters and Bureaucrats Put Your Vote at Risk.”

The problem with California is there is no separate verification of citizenship on voter registration, said Charles Bell, Jr., a partner with California-based Bell, McAndrews & Hiltachk, LLP, a law firm that specializes in election law. Applicants can check a box affirming they are citizens, and this is not checked against any other government database such as federal immigration records.

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One concern, said Jessica Vaughan, director of policy studies for the Washington D.C.-based Center for Immigration Studies, is that California issues driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants, allowing them to automatically be registered to vote under the federal “motor-voter” laws. Since the AB60 law went into effect in 2015, 806,000 illegal immigrants have received a license.

However, a spokesperson for the California Secretary of State countered that while state law prohibits the Department of Motor Vehicles from sharing AB 60 applicant information with the public and most state agencies, including the Secretary of State’s office, AB 60 license applicants are not afforded voter registration opportunities when visiting the DMV.
There is no driver’s license required to register to vote, and there are stiff penalties for illegally voting, the spokesman said.

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Even John Podesta, former chairman of the 2016 Hillary Clinton presidential campaign, acknowledged in a leaked email that driver’s licenses do provide a loophole.“On the picture ID, the one thing I have thought of in that space is that if you show up on Election Day with a driver’s license with a picture, attest that you are a citizen, you have a right to vote in federal elections,” Podesta wrote in a February 2015 email leaked by Wikileaks.

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Anecdotal, but still.

Claude Arnold, who served as the former Special Agent in Charge for the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Homeland Security Investigations in Southern California, Nevada, Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska, North Dakota and South Dakota, said he has witnessed voter fraud firsthand.

“Throughout my 27-year career with [Immigration and Naturalization Service] and ICE, I arrested hundreds of illegal criminal aliens who had voter registration cards,” Arnold said. “They would often admit they voted, but they were rarely prosecuted for illegally voting."

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This map looks curiously familiar.

So, do we still want to debate that federal voting laws - including a federal voter ID - are not only necessary, but long overdue?

No the feds do not have a constitutional role in micromanaging elections. Motor Voter should be repealed and states banned from issuing DL or IDs to illegal aliens. This is just as bad as sanctuary cities. Again the founders show their wisdom in using the electoral college to prevent large rogue states like California from subverting the vote or having undue influence via the popular vote. Cali was a red state until illegal and legal immigration imported a welfare state dependent class of people and turned it blue. This is instructive to any RINO who wants to give illegals a path to citizenship. They are a democrat voting block and its political suicide/ destruction that will last generations.

No the feds do not have a constitutional role in micromanaging elections. Motor Voter should be repealed and states banned from issuing DL or IDs to illegal aliens. This is just as bad as sanctuary cities. Again the founders show their wisdom in using the electoral college to prevent large rogue states like California from subverting the vote or having undue influence via the popular vote. Cali was a red state until illegal and legal immigration imported a welfare state dependent class of people and turned it blue. This is instructive to any RINO who wants to give illegals a path to citizenship. They are a democrat voting block and its political suicide/ destruction that will last generations.

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So, essentially, you favor the electoral college because it fits your personal political desires and allows for disproportionate favor towards those who live in smaller states, as opposed to any interest of fairness or democratic ideals? You are also missing a few components of the purpose of the electoral college, but, aside from this problem, would you still hold this position were it Republicans benefiting from a path to citizenship or is it just relevant when your political ideology is at risk?

So, essentially, you favor the electoral college because it fits your personal political desires and allows for disproportionate favor towards those who live in smaller states, as opposed to any interest of fairness or democratic ideals? You are also missing a few components of the purpose of the electoral college, but, aside from this problem, would you still hold this position were it Republicans benefiting from a path to citizenship or is it just relevant when your political ideology is at risk?

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I believe in Americanism as created by our founders and framers. You dont like the EC then get the 3/4 of the states to amend the constitution. I believe in individual freedom as the founders understood it. It is liberty not licentiousness. Liberals and libertarians seem to get the two confused.

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams

“If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself.”--Alexander Hamilton

I believe in Americanism as created by our founders and framers. You dont like the EC then get the 3/4 of the states to amend the constitution. I believe in individual freedom as the founders understood it. It is liberty not licentiousness. Liberals and libertarians seem to get the two confused.

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams

“If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself.”--Alexander Hamilton

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My ability to get, or not get, 3/4ths of the states to amend the constitution has no bearing on my ability to critique its uselessness as an electoral function in modern America. Otherwise, you really didn't answer the questions I posed vis a vis your previous post.

My ability to get, or not get, 3/4ths of the states to amend the constitution has no bearing on my ability to critique its uselessness as an electoral function in modern America. Otherwise, you really didn't answer the questions I posed vis a vis your previous post.

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I did answer your question but you appear to need guidance so I will offer the assistance.

I believe in Americanism and individualism as the founders intended. These are my personal political desires.

You are fee to critique all you want but the EC is the law of the land and that you find it useless and outdated is your opinion. It is unlikely that you will be able to convince 38 states to agree with you and therefore you will again find yourself confounded by the wisdom of the founders/framers. They weren't going to hand over the constitution to 50% +1 or let large populated states run roughshod over others. The people were given proportional representation in the House and the States are treated as equal in the Senate.

I did answer your question but you appear to need guidance so I will offer the assistance.

I believe in Americanism and individualism as the founders intended. These are my personal political desires.

You are fee to critique all you want but the EC is the law of the land and that you find it useless and outdated is your opinion. It is unlikely that you will be able to convince 38 states to agree with you and therefore you will again find yourself confounded by the wisdom of the founders/framers. They weren't going to hand over the constitution to 50% +1 or let large populated states run roughshod over others. The people were given proportional representation in the House and the States are treated as equal in the Senate.

I did answer your question but you appear to need guidance so I will offer the assistance.

I believe in Americanism and individualism as the founders intended. These are my personal political desires.

You are fee to critique all you want but the EC is the law of the land and that you find it useless and outdated is your opinion. It is unlikely that you will be able to convince 38 states to agree with you and therefore you will again find yourself confounded by the wisdom of the founders/framers. They weren't going to hand over the constitution to 50% +1 or let large populated states run roughshod over others. The people were given proportional representation in the House and the States are treated as equal in the Senate.

And, no, the EC does not appear to be on the way out, at least not until the Republicans are burned by it the way Democrats have been on a number of occasions. I do like this idea that I am "confounded" because my opinion does not appear likely to occur. I suppose by this token, an criticism of Obamacare must fall under the same logic, as it appears to not be likely to be overturned. Otherwise, the EC fares as an outdated method that relied its existence as much upon the fact that it gave southern states more representation in government despite having a large bloc of non-citizens (see 3/5ths Compromise) as fears of larger states dominating smaller states. There's a lot more complicated questions involved in that discussion, though, than you are suggesting, but the idea that "the people" should not get 1 vote equally among all Americans for a national election is ridiculous and much different than representation in the legislative branch.

And, no, the EC does not appear to be on the way out, at least not until the Republicans are burned by it the way Democrats have been on a number of occasions. I do like this idea that I am "confounded" because my opinion does not appear likely to occur. I suppose by this token, an criticism of Obamacare must fall under the same logic, as it appears to not be likely to be overturned. Otherwise, the EC fares as an outdated method that relied its existence as much upon the fact that it gave southern states more representation in government despite having a large bloc of non-citizens (see 3/5ths Compromise) as fears of larger states dominating smaller states. There's a lot more complicated questions involved in that discussion, though, than you are suggesting, but the idea that "the people" should not get 1 vote equally among all Americans for a national election is ridiculous and much different than representation in the legislative branch.

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Ridiculous huh? "Its a republic..." Ben Franklin

As for ObOzOcare well maybe the pubs will put the same bill on the Clowns desk as they did ObOzO. I bet Trumpy signs it if they do. The Rinos arent fooling anyone with the kabuki dance If they are smart and pubs are the stupid party they will repeal it and phase it out giving insurance and customers time to adapt and flesh things out. Then they can go in and make sure that insurance companies arent abusing things.