Do I need a "test base" for certain pro hormones?

On steroidology they told me I need a test base for phs such as superdrol. But I think that because cycles are 3-6 weeks in length for most phs that the body should recover faster even without a test base. What are your thoughts? If I was going to run an 8 week cycle of epistane would I need a test base?

You don't have to but it sure helps. Sides such as low libido and dry joints can hit hard without a test base. IMO if you going to run a cycle you might as well do it right and it with a test base.

I got both right now after my 6 week epistane cycle. Maybe I shouldn't even be running an A.I I'm running erase now on my 4th week of pct. DAA 3/3/3/3/ and nolva 20/20/10/10. Erase blocks estrogen and estrogen is still required for a healthy libido.

On steroidology they told me I need a test base for phs such as superdrol. But I think that because cycles are 3-6 weeks in length for most phs that the body should recover faster even without a test base. What are your thoughts? If I was going to run an 8 week cycle of epistane would I need a test base?

Is it required no, but it will help with sides probably. If you want to stay with just ph's and have a test like base in the future look at 4AD rde, 5alpha-test, stanodrol, Alpha Bulk to name a few. Also yeah I would wait until the end of week 4 of your SERM and then try the erase at that point.

Is it required no, but it will help with sides probably. If you want to stay with just ph's and have a test like base in the future look at 4AD rde, 5alpha-test, stanodrol, Alpha Bulk to name a few. Also yeah I would wait until the end of week 4 of your SERM and then try the erase at that point.

I kept hearing different things some guys did erase 2nd week pct some 3rd. I already started it on my last week of pct @ 3 caps a day. I should of waited though till my serm was done since I had no estrogen sides.

I kept hearing different things some guys did erase 2nd week pct some 3rd. I already started it on my last week of pct @ 3 caps a day. I should of waited though till my serm was done since I had no estrogen sides.

doesn't much matter when you start Erase, but it's good to extend it a week or two past the SERM. Not totally necessary, just ideal. I've used SERM only PCT with no AI and was just fine before, no side effects

Your cycle was identical to mine. I couldn't wait for it to be over.
Most likely won't run epi solo ever again. Minor gains that aren't worth the sides

That is what solo hdrol did to me. Sure I got stronger but when my elbow's took a **** and I could not do tri's for 2 months I ended up loosing all upper body gains very fast. Considering the throbbing elbow pain and other sides (no libido) I said the hell with PH's and never touched them for over three years until trest came out. Never never ever run a cycle without a test base IMO!

You dont "need" it but you would love it.... the test will provide plenty of benefits (libido, feeling good) it will possibly counter the maniac thoughts caused by superdrol.... oh yes , if you want to run a short cycle then run it with test P .... the Enanthate you should run it atleast 8 weeks (and i think is not enough), You can run epistane solo with great results and AI would not be needed, by reading your post you look like you are being "forced" to use test just because the bros of steroidology told you so, you can also keep it simple, you can also stack epi with a non methyl, even dermacrine could be a good choice, 11-keto, etc.

Your cycle was identical to mine. I couldn't wait for it to be over.
Most likely won't run epi solo ever again. Minor gains that aren't worth the sides

This was my first cycle ever and I ate whatever I wanted I had huge gains went from 195-198 to 216.8 at my most now 4th week pct almost done and I'm down to 212 ish which ain't so bad and strength is same. I sure do miss the epi pump though.

This was my first cycle ever and I ate whatever I wanted I had huge gains went from 195-198 to 216.8 at my most now 4th week pct almost done and I'm down to 212 ish which ain't so bad and strength is same. I sure do miss the epi pump though.