Saturday, November 27, 2010

His Oness better start trying to learn a non- contact sport, we can't have our commander in chief catching stitches from aggressive b-ballers. If he isn't careful he will kill himself before folks like this can make good on their threats. ( BTW, I am starting to see a trend here.)

"Even on Thanksgiving Day, Sarah Palin found time to lash out at her political foes -- in this case the media for blowing out of proportion her gaffe on the Korean crisis.

In a Facebook posting, the combative Palin addressed a Thanksgiving message to "57 states" -- mocking a mistake President Obama made in his 2008 campaign as a way of arguing that the news uses a double standard. "If you can't remember hearing about them [Obama slip-ups), that's because for the most part the media didn't consider them newsworthy," she wrote, according to ABC News. "I have no complaint about that. Everybody makes the occasional verbal gaffe -- even news anchors."

She is a fighter that Sarah. You gotta love her.

I can't blame her for being cocky, though. A-merry-ca has had her magic Negro moment, and they don't need the black guy anymore. It looks like he has cleaned up enough of the previous mess and we can move on now. Thank you O, we hardly knew you.

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PilotX
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They won't leave that one alone huh? I guess she can also make fun of his law degree and his success at getting to the WH while she raises her illegitimate grandson and becomes a reality tv star.BTW FIRST!

I wasn't aware that we had 57 states. Did I miss something, perhaps I ate too much turkey and dressing to notice that there are five additional states. Is Sarah Palin including the US territories as states? I am a little confused, did I read 57 states correctly in the article, hmmm (raising my eyebrows in utter bewilderment) We have all made gaffes, but she seems to make a gaffe each and every she opens her mouth. I guess it's an honest mistake to say North Korea than South Korea, but her problem is that she doesn't think before she speaks. She must speak on everything even if it means that she has nary a clue as to what she is talking about. It would do her good if she doesn't have to comment every single thing, sometimes being silent is a good thing and it means you are listening always talking. who I am kidding, she will not be quiet. Besides she laughing all the way to the bank and couldn't care less what everyone says about because what is important is that we continue to talk about her. Why do we fall for this con? This is a work as they use to say in wrestling.

I have to make a correction, that's rich white trash as Sarah stands to make close $20 million this year. Here is another question why is publishing industry continue to get people to write books who cannot read?

Field, everything is imploding for people who think like a progressive lib dem. I noticed you ignored the bomb plot to blow up in a Xmas tree crowd in Portland, Or. Gee, I wonder why? Could it be that he is another Muslim seeking to destroy America?

hennasplace, the 57 states was an Obama gaffe. Sarah was being facetious about the double standard of the media. Of course, you missed the 57 states gaffe by Obama because you and all the other Obamaholics are Black.

I am a black conservative and do not appreciate Sarah being called white trash. She has never been that. I am surprised that you would engage in such racial degradation of our future President.

I thought you were above that-- and would not wallow in the mud with slimy Feral.

It's going to be interesting when she becomes President. FN blog will be finished and the conservative black blogs will be King!

Field, "I can't blame her for being cocky, though. A-merry-ca has had her magic Negro moment, and they don't need the black guy anymore. It looks like he has cleaned up enough of the previous mess and we can move on now. Thank you O, we hardly knew you."

The reason you Obamaholics never knew him was because you were blinded by his skin color. But so was everybody else.

Sarey took great pride in terming herself and her family as a form of 'wite trash'. Yes, she has a very thin skin..but that is something familiar to all the Alaskans who dealt with her. She carries grudges for slights, real or imagined. Instead of carrying water for her wealthy backers who would not deign to notice your wingnut ignorance and poverty, why not read some Alaskan bloggers who have been accurate about her and her career?

I wasn't aware that Obama made the gaffe, but a gaffe is still gaffe and we all make them, and still raise my eyebrow to the 57 states and it doesn't matter to me if President Obama made it. Personally, I don't care if Palin a thousand gaffes. My point is why do pay so much attention to her. This is a person who quit her elected position as governor which is more troubling than her gaffes. Who quits in such a manner, and then expects to run for President of the United States.

Dude calm down, I was being facetious when I wrote rich white trash because the term itself is an oxymoron. White trash is not a racial degradation insofar as the term describing an inferior or underprivileged white social group. The term is disparaging and a description of a lower socio-economic class, so it's more about class than race. Sarah Palin has said herself that she rather be out in the fresh air than stuff in some political office. The woman is interested in making money than being the leader of the country. How can anyone vote for a quitter. I wouldn't vote her because there is a good chance she will not finish her term because it's too taxing for her. I am sorry if President Obama did the same thing, I would not vote for him either because it would undermine the trust I have to vote for him again. Let's be practical.

You interjected race into this discussion because the reality is that the black democrats would have voted for Hillary Clinton over McCain. I am not voting Republican, and the only way I would have if I was living during the time of Theodore Roosevelt because he progressive ideology. He was a tree hugger and believed in conservation, regulating corporations, damn liberal. Which if one thought it should be a conservative idea because it is steep into political tradition. Details, details.

Mold, "Yes, she has a very thin skin..but that is something familiar to all the Alaskans who dealt with her. She carries grudges for slights, real or imagined."

Pray she doesn't carry a grudge against Negroes like you and Feral. Because if she does, the 'entire' Black race will suffer, thanks to that self-centered jackass by the name of Feral. You whined about the racist remarks made about Obama and now you do the same? you are stupid.

@ anon 10:23 "everything is imploding for people who think like a lib dem". Really? I'm a liberal but not a Dem and I see no evidence of implosion around me, how does that work anyway? I think I saw that on an episode of dr. Who once. As far as Field not commenting on the bomb plot in Portland that is a cheap internet ploy used by many conservatives "why didn't you mention A" well sir most folks can't comment on every single topic on the planet. Why didn't YOU comment on Sarah's gaffe? or Delay's conviction? or the lunar landing in '69? Geez I said it once I'll say it again we need better trolls here. Oh yeah, Palin is not a strong leader because if she was she would have finished her term as governor but as we all know she couldn't handle it.

hennasplace, "Dude calm down, I was being facetious when I wrote rich white trash because the term itself is an oxymoron. White trash is not a racial degradation insofar as the term describing an inferior or underprivileged white social group. The term is disparaging and a description of a lower socio-economic class, so it's more about class than race."

I am calm. It's you who made the 'disparaging' offensive comment about her. I don't agree with you that it is not racial. It is. However, you can minimize it all you want, if that's what you have to do. You are the one who has to live with the words that come out of you.

Maybe all of this Sarah Palin attention has you in a tizzy? Well, don't take it out on me, go to the source of this blog. His name is "Field."

PilotX-"@ anon 10:23 "everything is imploding for people who think like a lib dem". Really? I'm a liberal but not a Dem and I see no evidence of implosion around me, how does that work anyway?"

You should read the latest poll that Field provided for blind ignorant liberals like you. The people of America don't want Obama, home grown Muslims in America are trying to blow up Americans, the November elections removed a lot of you silly ineffective liberals from office, the GOP and the Tea Party have gained offices in less than 2 years from ineffective 'liberal' dems, Sarah Palin is making her political moves while Obama does nothing....

Mr. PilotX, the list goes on, and it looks like a liberal- progressive-dem-IMPLOSION to me.

You probably don't notice it because you are the typical liberal couch potato who doesn't vote anyway. It would take a major earthquake to move a liberal like you.

I guess G.W. Bush wasn't dumb enough for the average wingnut. They want the real deal, someone whose lack of intellectual credentials were never in doubt. Go for it, I say. This empire cannot implode fast enough for my tastes. Just wait 'til China finds another large market for its cheap plastic crap, we will be sunk for good.

Until then, let's amuse ourselves with more of the meaningless debate between supporters of the two massively corrupt major political parties in this country. Pick your poison, slow-acting or quick relief.

I didn't make a remark towards her. I didn't say that Sarah Palin is white trash, and it's apparent that she is not considering the fact that she is wealthy person. White trash refers to a poor white person, and the reason for my saying rich white trash because it's an oxymoron. You focused more on that statement than me stating that she is a quitter and wouldn't make a good leader because it. I see Sarah Palin as the person who is laughing all the way to the bank because people keep her in the media, and as long as she remains in the public eye, the money she stands to make. I don't call anyone poor white trash which is the more common term only in the form of a conversation. I will call someone a jackass, but that is as close as it gets. You don't have agree with about the term white trash because I got the definition from Merriam-Webster. By all means take issue with the dictionary folks. It was not opinion about the term, but a fact. I will stand by what I wrote, but you interrupt and perceive it is on you. I don't understand why would defend a person who wouldn't do the same for you. My question is why are you going against your own interests unless Sarah and you have so much in common.

Typical anon, too cowardly or lazy to even make up a name. I notice you ascribe a whole bunch of lables and adjectives to describe me without knowing fact the first, typical conservative. Let's deal with a few of your issues. First "homegrown Muslims" are trying to blow up 'mericans, uhhhh so this makes what three? That isn't even a trend but that doesn't bother me as there as as many militant Christians trying to bring about the end times as there are Muslims trying to destroy 'merica so if you want to worry your pretty little head about such things go right ahead. So what if folks don't like Obama, hell 90+% of whites in Alabama and Mississippi didn't vote for him so that isn't surprising. There were not a bunch of liberal Dems that lost office there were a bunch of conservative Dems that lost office and were lucky to be there in the first place because they rode the Obama wave. There is nothing new in American politics as an incumbent president always loses seats in a mid-term and when the economy is bad the party in power always loses seats. Now before we start jumping up and down about how successful the Tea Party is and vowing a GOP takeover remember this happened in '94 and we see how that turned out. Let's face it, Tea Partiers have several ideas that are not possible and when they get to D.C. and realize this the same people that put these fools in power will throw them under the bus. Repubs campaign well but don't govern well. Maybe with luck this will change but I don't see this ending well for anybody. If my world didn't implode after Reagan and two Bushes a few idiots in congress won't even show up on my radar as they won't be able to pass any idiotic bill they come up with as the Dems still control the senate and the prez will veto. Stalemate at best. Your move.

"the November elections removed a lot of you silly ineffective liberals from office"

Actually it got rid of a lot more conservative "Blue Dog" Democrats than it did truly liberal Dems. This is actually a good thing since the conserva-dems fucked up health care and just about everything else, which turned off enough Democrats to give the wingnuts an opening. Compare polls between "all voters" and "likely voters" and you will see that if election turnout was higher (which it might have been if the Blue Dogs hadn't diluted or hindered so many bills) the Democrats would have done much better.

The Blue Dogs were poison to the Democrats and I am glad their influence has been greatly diminished.

PilotX, "Let's deal with a few of your issues. First "homegrown Muslims" are trying to blow up 'mericans, uhhhh so this makes what three? That isn't even a trend but that doesn't bother me as there as as many militant Christians trying to bring about the end times as there are Muslims trying to destroy 'merica so if you want to worry your pretty little head about such things go right ahead."

A trend? Is that what you need before you become suspicious of Muslims? How many attempts at blowing up Americans will it take before YOU consider it a trend worth evaluating? Remember weak-minded one, it only takes one explosion to kill thousands or even millions of Americans. A trend well plotted on a graph is not necessary.

The Judeo-Christian religion has been in America from birth. Christians are not looking to kill Americans. Nor are they at war with America, like Muslims are. You need to get your priorities in order and learn what is best for you, your family and your fellow Americans. If there is any American who is more dangerous to his country it is ignorant people who think naively like you.

Well let me see, maybe I should avoid my many Muslim friends because I'm sure they are secretly trying to kill me behind my back because they hate me for my freedom huh? Lemme think about how many Americans have been blown up by good Christians, well I can think of a few women's health clinics that have been blown up by Christians. The KKK was a "Christian" organization and they were very successful at blowing up a few places and even killed a few little girls to boot. Yeah, I'll get right on that whole being scared of Muslim thing, I'll call all the ones I know right away and after that I'll go get under the bed and quiver in fear.Hey do me a favor anon, take 2 seconds and make up a name so I will know who I'm chatting with.Thanks. Oh yeah, who hates me more, the Muslims or racist hate groups?

And what I meant with the end times comment is that there are many Dominionists out there, Palin being one, that are trying to get elected and bring our country in line with their god. John Thune is another and he is being mentioned as a presidential hopeful and these folks want to base our foreign policy on the bible. These folks scare me more than simple people trying to put food on their table as 99.9999% of Muslims are doing. Remember the cliche about glass houses there anon.

"Christians are not looking to kill Americans" anon. Ummmmm, so that means there are no Christians in jail for murder or manslaughter? I did not know that. Learn something new everyday. Everyone killed in this country was killed by a Muslim? Interesting hypothesis, any data to back this up or is just more conservative bluster with no facts?@hennsplace, Tim Mcveigh was a Muslim didn't you know? He was Bin Laden's right hand man.

white trash –noun Slang: "Disparaging and Offensive". 1. a member of the class of poor whites, esp. in the southern U.S. (from Dictionary.com)

Definition of WHITE TRASH"usually disparaging" : a member of an inferior or underprivileged white social group (from merriam-webster)

I agree with the definitions of both dictionaries. However, it's YOU who made the offensive remarks and stand behind them as "a fact"... And if you stand by those offensive terms it highlights the 'nature' of your character and conscience.

How would you like for someone to use your same rationale for the hurtful offensive word 'nigger'? That also is in the dictionaries- and.. by your narrow reasoning-"a fact."

There is a big difference between a 'fact' intended as a loaded pejorative judgment- and one that is useful,- or what's 'actually' true.

You need more practice on 'how' to use facts and research better. You still have yet to learn how to use them in 'meaningful-useful' ways that will benefit other humans, instead of tearing them down. As an Black American, I would think you would want to do that, considering what our race has been through. You need, however, the heartfelt capacity to do it.

I thought you had the nature of character and mind that was beyond the Ferals and a few others that frequent this blog. But you are, in 'fact', no better.

PilotX said..."Christians are not looking to kill Americans" anon. Ummmmm, so that means there are no Christians in jail for murder or manslaughter? I did not know that. Learn something new everyday. Everyone killed in this country was killed by a Muslim? Interesting hypothesis, any data to back this up or is just more conservative bluster with no facts?@hennsplace, Tim Mcveigh was a Muslim didn't you know? He was Bin Laden's right hand man

Oh you are so dumb its painful to see your disconnected logic. I hope to god there is never another succesful muslim terrorist attack. But If there is, I hope its one of your planes that the attempt is made. That is if I believe someone with the intellect of a gorilla is actually a pilot. Sky pilot of the bong and crack spoon maybe.

Why do liberals seem to be the stupidest people on the planet. Only a true liberal like you can continually say stupid things like this and clearly not have the ability to connect the dots even in the biggest coloring book on earth.

Well yes, there might as well be 57 states. Shoot, maybe he had something in mind. There's American Samoa, District of Columbia, Federated States of Micronesia, Guam, North Marianas, Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands to consider, and not necessarily in that order.... DO YOU REMEMBER WE ARE APART OF AMERICA TOO? LOL.

Instead of being humble she brought up another person's error. That gonna betcha what's her name reminds me of a coconut dumb-bread in heels, why won't she go away? Then again, let the jokes begin, keep it coming Sarah, more material for Tina Fey?

Well look at it this way, she is not getting near the white house come 2012. But hey, neither is Obama.

Calm down anon, your true colors are starting to show. You say I am stupid and that liberals seem to be stupid? Well sir I just tend to go where the facts take me and if you look at the statistics your chances of being killed by a terrorist are right up there with being mauled by a rabid koala bear. If becoming afraid of an imaginary threat makes you feel better then ok I'll go cower in fear of teh Mooslims ok? Let's take a moment to recognize that thousands more Muslims and Western Asians have been killed by American force than all victims of terrorist attacks put together. Call it disjointed logic but I say you suffer from the same defict sir or ma'am (can't tell because you refuse to make up a name). I've had this same debate with a co-worker recently and he informed me that it's ok to kill western Asians because they are not humans like us good Americans. Sorry but death is death and it wasn't that long ago when it was ok to kill people who looked like me because I wasn't fully human. I can see how aggression works, when you do it it's ok but when it's directed back at you it's not. I can tell by the 5 year old name calling and the whole wishing I am a victim of violence you represent that whole "good Christian" thinking that the Klan represents. Very Christ like of you to wish harm on someone else. Keep on responding, you represent conservative thought so well. Now would you like to give yourself a name and have a civil debate or are you going to continue to be just like all other conservatives I debate and name-call like a 5 year old and ignore simple questions? Your turn. BTW, what is the occupation of a genius like yourself? I need something to aspire to.

PilotX, ""Christians are not looking to kill Americans" anon. Ummmmm, so that means there are no Christians in jail for murder or manslaughter? I did not know that. Learn something new everyday. Everyone killed in this country was killed by a Muslim? Interesting hypothesis, any data to back this up or is just more conservative bluster with no facts?@hennsplace, Tim Mcveigh was a Muslim didn't you know? He was Bin Laden's right hand man."

You are an idiot. No need to even try to have a discussion with you. Low IQ, ghetto style.

Low IQ ghetto style? What exactly does that mean? I am an idiot? Hmmm, well let's see, you have yet to establish an identity, you have not answered one question and have only used inarticulate name calling and yet you feel I am the one with the lower level of intelligence. Interesting but typical of a conservative. I am still curious what a stellar intellectual heavyweight such as yourself does for a living anon. What is your occupation? Or is that not an intelligent enough question for someone of your caliber of superior intellect?

PilotX, "I am still curious what a stellar intellectual heavyweight such as yourself does for a living anon. What is your occupation? Or is that not an intelligent enough question for someone of your caliber of superior intellect?"

Sure anon, I'm sure someone can figure out who I am out of the almost 7,000 pilots at United. Yes you did say too much. Nice chatting with you. Hope no Mooslim figures out who you are now they know you fly for a major airline. Funny that a fellow birdman would wish ill to his bretheren for disagreeing with him/her. Interesting. Peace.

Funny, apropos of nothing but I recall a few years ago I got a death threat from a good Christian who didn't like the fact that I didn't like "The Passion of the Christ". Maybe I need to meet better Muslims because all the threats of violence come from the Hezoos followers.

Usually dictionaries do no get colloquialisms quite right. White trash referred to white people who may be poor, but mostly to those who were not considered cultured by other white folks. Black folks didn't invent the phrase and where I came from Blacks call whites "crackers."

Class and money are not synonymous. Back in the day Sarah Palin would have been considered low class, by white folks and they would have been the first to call her White Trash, that is if they still don't.

I have to make a correction, that's rich white trash as Sarah stands to make close $20 million this year. Here is another question why is publishing industry continue to get people to write books who cannot read?"

You are assuming she is writing the books all by herself. Haven't you heard of Google...lol?

Sarey called herself and her family a form of 'wite trash'. Defending her is more about the writer than her social inadequacies Her goin' outdoors is as true as bush's 'ranch'. Just look at her costumes...some still have the creases from the packaging. Oh, and some of us are rural and find her posturing to be insulting to the hillbilly/RealMerican lifestyle. Sort of saying one is an urban professional...and wearing Members Only jackets.Can the wingnut posters find any Obama equivalent to Sarey calling her family 'wite trash'? If not, you just really only want to say he's a 'migger' I have no issue with calling rappers what they call each other...they 'opened the door'.After knowing christians who want to kill me for the crime of literacy...I think I would prefer Muslims. After meeting christians who want to kill women for the crime of independence...I think I would prefer Muslims. After meeting christians who want to kill minorities for the crime of competence...I think I would prefer Muslims.Despite the usage by st reagan and bush, christianity is not an all-purpose whitewash and instant goodie gratification device.

PilotX-"Funny, apropos of nothing but I recall a few years ago I got a death threat from a good Christian who didn't like the fact that I didn't like "The Passion of the Christ". Maybe I need to meet better Muslims because all the threats of violence come from the Hezoos followers."

Why not become a Muslim yourself? The terrorists would love to have you/ The TSA needs to monitor you. Your pro-terrorist Muslim attitude is disturbing, considering you are a pilot. Thanks for telling everybody which airline you are flying planes for. I will avoid that one.

"I hate Sarah Palin because she is white and people like her. I don't like her clothes. I ascribe muslim characteristics to christians because I am a bitter shut-in who doesn't really know better."

From the comments of residents with ID's, you are NOT alone in your feelings of hatred. In fact, if you read some of the degrading insulting comments about Sarah Palin you will feel comfort in knowing you have plenty of company from some of the so-called Field Negroes here.

LOL, I know damn well she didn't write those books. Anyone can say he or she can write a book. Look at the Situation from Jersey Shore who proudly calls himself a Guido. Guido is a demeaning term.

I do find it interesting that a "black conservative" deems the term white trash is a racial slur. The term is used by black and white people for almost two hundred as I think the term came about around 1832 during the Antebellum period. It's not a racial slur but is a demeaning term. At any case, it is not a term of endearment. I think this anon person is suffering from disillusion, perhaps an Uncle Ruckus caricature who identifies himself as poor white trash because it is better than being a black person, And again, I am not calling anyone white trash merely pointing out an observation of this person perceives himself.

Feral, "To Anon: Yes, I am ready for the racist name calling. You people think it, anyway. What's the big deal?"

Well, Feral I am sure you are ready- and would welcome such destructive language because you are perverted and live by hurting others. It probably is the only life you have ever known...it validates your existence.

Feral, "Why are some people so upset that I called the Palins white trash?"

It's real simple: it is an offensive term, GET IT? It never ceases to amaze me how black folks can use such racially destructive language when they have been dehumanized themselves throughout American history.

No other race has so many pejoratives used against them than Blacks. And now you, hennasplace, and others want to do the same thing to others?

FYI: there are Blacks who have been fighting against racist derogatory words for decades. But Blacks like you are doing your best to nullify and to perpetuate hateful words. Maybe they have it right about us...we think and act like monkeys.

hennasplace, you are in "denial" and everyone can see it. Whether you consider White Trash as an offensive term and not a racial term, is like splitting hairs. Either way, however, YOU still ARE being offensive no matter how long people have used the term. If that's your "justification" then you lack awareness and connection to the human heart.

You have nary a clue as to what you are talking about. I didn't call anyone white trash and have a mental illness. I used rich white trash which don't make any sense because it's an oxymoron. It is a joke and Palin refers herself as white trash. I don't why anyone would want to refer themselves by that term is beyond me. If you find the term offensive, then write a comment on her Facebook page and stop trying to make as if I am the worst person in the world. You cannot make me feel guilty about being facetious, and if you don't have enough brain cells to make discernment of what is satire then all is lost with you. I find it interesting that you are focusing on my satirical statement than the fact I called her a quitter which she is and not capable of leading a country because she will quit when it's too tough for her.

IT's still wrong to call anybody TRASH I don't give a damn who invented the phrase. It is demeaning to the humanity of that person. Why not call her a hag or a banchee or something? At least those characterize human women gone astray!!!

As I stated before, you can make your feelings known on Sarah Palin's facebook fan page. If this is the way you feel, then make her aware of it because everyone in this room already knows. You can also speak to the Situation about his use of the word Guido because it refers to working class Italian much in the same way as poor white trash. Does that go for the word Redneck because that has the same meaning as it does refer to white people.

There is a difference between getting a ghost writer to write a book and people there helping with the writing of a book. In addition, Obama was chief speech writer on his campaign. I am quite sure that Bill and Hillary ran ideas with one another on their books. If I was writing a book, I would ask other people's opinion and use their suggestions, but it still has be written in your words. Michelle probably did help him with editing the book, but she didn't help him write it. The book does have to go through a final edit by the publisher, and the publisher may have come up with the title for the book as well.

I didn't imply that Michelle helped write "Dreams" at all; what I said was is that she confirmed that BILL AYERS had helped write the book. In fact, there is considerable evidence that Bill Ayers wrote the book FOR Barack Obama.

hennasplace, "I find it interesting that you are focusing on my satirical statement than the fact I called her a quitter which she is and not capable of leading a country because she will quit when it's too tough for her."

Rich white trash might be satire and an oxymoron to you but it is at the expense of those you hurt. Bottom line, it is offensive, no matter how you twist it. You are going to need to hold on to Feral's hand on this one because you aren't going to find a lot of hands to hold on to. Imo, to need Feral is to be desperately avoiding that witness inside. Good luck.

Whether you 'feel guilty' or not, is in YOU. Guilt and shame always depend on the stirrings of one's own inner voice, and whether it is tormenting your conscience. From your comments, it's ok with you... So go ahead, be as offensive, and inappropriate as you like. I am sure it makes you 'feel' good and will take you a long way. Good luck.

Regarding what I focus on...well, I focus on what I focus on. Whether Palin is a quitter or not, according to YOUR political opinion-is NOT my political opinion. From what I see about Sarah, she is hell bent on a political career as well as a media careet. Her move to leave early as Governor was to pursue her dream in the game of politics and the media. And I might add, she is pretty good at it...Don't you think?

However, a black person like yourself who calls her white trash-- and justify doing so, ought to take a good look in the mirror and ask themselves, "how does it 'feel' when someone calls me a nigger or a coon or a monkey?"

Btw, before you go around using oxymorons you should make sure you understand their impact and their meanings.

**"Rich White Trash" has meaning, and it's impact is derogatory...plain and simple.**

Also, you might consider taking a few night courses in writing complete sentences. Your sentences have a lot of 'holes' in them. That is, you leave out words where you shouldn't. It's as if you are a newly arrived foreigner or immigrant who hasn't quite become fluent in English.

Luthor,If I hadn't read this post I wouldn't have known the gaffe Palin made about North Korea.Contrary to the popular belief, liberals do not track every wing nuts words. Actually I could care less what Sarah Palin says, since she isn't running for anything. When she was McCain's running mate I paid attention to some of her associations, which I think far worst than Bill Ayers, since he's never advocated killing children.

As I stated before, you can make your feelings known on Sarah Palin's facebook fan page. If this is the way you feel, then make her aware of it because everyone in this room already knows. You can also speak to the Situation about his use of the word Guido because it refers to working class Italian much in the same way as poor white trash. Does that go for the word Redneck because that has the same meaning as it does refer to white people."

I am making my feelings known right here on FN blog. You seem to be confused and can't quite grasp what's happening right here on FN blog. Are you saying FN blog isn't up to par with Facebook. I disagree. GET IT?

FN blog is enough for me. It's where I come everyday. I DON'T engage, nor am I interested in anybody's facebook. GET IT?

”I didn't imply that Michelle helped write "Dreams" at all; what I said was is that she confirmed that BILL AYERS had helped write the book.”

She did no such thing.

“In fact, there is considerable evidence that Bill Ayers wrote the book FOR Barack Obama.”

Balonie, there is no rational evidence what-so-ever.

This all stems from a series of articles by the far-right sleaze-ball Jack Cashill, written for that home-from-home for neo-nazi nutcase conspiracy theories, World Net Daily.

He tried to enlist the help of Oxford University (and chess grandmaster) Professor Peter Millican in ‘proving’ that Ayers wrote ‘Dreams…’. However Professor Millican requested a guarantee that the results of the analysis would be published even if they proved that Ayers had nothing to do with the book. Very tellingly Cashill refused to give those assurances, so Millican refused to continue.

Professor Millican’s software compares the writing styles of authors to find exactly who wrote what pieces. This analysis had previously been used to prove that Shakespeare wrote Shakespears’s sonnets rather than Sir Francis Bacon for instance.

Professor Millican went on to do the analysis anyway, and found no evidence of Ayer’s writing style in the ‘Dreams...’ book. He says he is confident that Ayers did not write the book.

So in short, outside the brains of paranoid far-right conspiracy theorists, there is absolutely no evidence anywhere that Ayers had anything to do with Obama’s book.

I'm going to continue a debate I had with an anonymous poster on the previous thread at this point, because my response didn't show up. maybe it was too long, so i've split it in two.

Part 1

”Pray tell, PC...what is wrong with my statement, when there is plenty of proof that is the case?”

What is wrong with your sentence is that it fails to deal with reality. The truth is, that American empire is dying, it is in terminal decline. The future belongs to India or China (if I had to guess I would say India, but it’s too soon to tell.) The twentieth century was your century, but it’s over now, and now you should be going through the same process that we went through ninety years ago. It’s a tough pill to swallow, but some politician somewhere in America is going to have to face that reality and convince the American people of it.

The difference between accepting this new reality and ignoring it, is the difference between the best-case scenario (a semi-prosperous market for Indian and Chinese goods) and the worst-case (total collapse).

America’s failure to bring in a sensible socialized medicine system means that your already failing manufacturing sector will become increasingly uncompetitive, (health care costs add $1250 to the cost of every car made in America). And will make your society even less able to handle the demographic and epidemiological time-bombs that await you. Meanwhile the source of your current world standing (your military-industrial complex) will become fiscally unsupportable. This though will no doubt come as some relief to the 70 nations that the USA invaded in the 20th century.

Then if we factor in central and southern America’s turn towards democratic Socialism, leaving you without local allies. Tied in with the right-wing’s veneration and adoration of stupidity and willful ignorance, that leads to the likes of Sarah Palin being offered as a serious candidate to run the country – and you have an almost perfect storm.

Call me old-fashioned, but I draw comfort from the fact that the current American President is more intelligent than me.

**”Your trouble is that you can't ACCEPT it and that colors how you see things...PERVERTED.”

I think it’s you that needs a reality check. You and your buddies on America’s far-right are guilty of cognitive disodance on a societal rather than an individual scale. Something we haven’t witnessed since Munich in 1933.

It just means I wasn't the news that day when the gaffe was reported. He misspoke by saying 57 states in one of his speeches. Everyone makes gaffes and I know I probably have a long list of them. A gaffe isn't that important as a person who quits in the middle of her term because it's an indication that she is not a good leader. I have the President make some gaffes, and has made corrections whenever he realizes them. One thing I can say about the President is that he does have a sense of self-reflection. Not everyone has that kind of ability for self-reflection and admits mistakes. I don't think the media are liberal, it's more about having the highest ratings and making money. The days of reporting the news is gone. News is more about another person's opinion. I really don't really want to hear what political consultants think, but a panel of scientists discussion global warming would be more interesting to me, or people who are experts in in the field of healthcare policy would more informational than political consultants. It's also the audience fault as well because we are more interesting in affirming our beliefs we want to hear than getting information we need to become more informed.

” Of course, you don't live in the USA, which you claim to be 'thankful' for on OUR THANKSGIVING DAY. To make such an insulting statement on an 'American' blog TO AMERICANS is about as wrong as you can get.”

Firstly,there’s no such thing as an ‘American blog’. The internet does not know national borders. Secondly, there is nothing insulting to Americans about what I wrote. I happen to have a lot of time for Americans, I’m married to one for Christ’s sake, and my own two sons are American citizens. I just don’t happen to like the direction American society is heading in.

America will never again be a great nation, but it has the capacity to be a valued and valuable member of the global community. It’s just choosing not to be, and that’s a great shame.

You can think whatever you want, but least I did not create an unknown name to make comments. Dude, as someone wrote earlier, you could have least made an effort to create an ID as most of the people here have blogs and the courage to identify themselves. You do not possess that, and I guess this means that I am calling you a coward and that answer would be yes.

hennasplace, "Dude, as someone wrote earlier, you could have least made an effort to create an ID as most of the people here have blogs and the courage to identify themselves. You do not possess that, and I guess this means that I am calling you a coward and that answer would be yes."

Calling me a coward only makes you look weaker than ever. That's the default you always fall back on when an 'anon' has thoroughly outclassed you and thorougly kicked your ass.

This is what makes FN blog so colorful and entertaining when you have someone kicking your ass without a name. Learn to think and write, hennasplace...while you are at it, develop a conscience...LOL

you pulled out everything you had, including the kitchen sink on poor American Anon. And your American wife and two sons are ok with that?

That anon must have really gotten to you. Well, Americans tend to do that to condescending snobish Europeans. But you are right, America could be on the decline in the world. At least for the moment. Question is, "will we stay there?" I mean, they don't call us cowboys of wild wild West for nothing.

Have you heard our age-old motto? "We are a God-fearing peace-loving nation."

Never count us out! It sounds like you are somewhere in Europe without a country?

Just as a side issue, I am taking a survey from certain 'reasonable' residential ID's about Anons...Do you love us as much as Mr. Field and the general public do?

This cunt is such a bitch. Yes people do have gaffes. Nobody thought Mr. Obama did not know how many states there are. We know he is smart. This racist piece of white trash is a fucking idiot. We know she has no fucking clue what the fuck she's talking about. Even the mccain people said she did not know the difference between north and south korea. fucking cunt bitch

Cashill has convincingly made the case for Ayer's authorship of "Dreams from my Father". This was confirmed last year in Christopher Andersen's biography of the Obamas: "Barack and Michelle: Portrait of an American Marriage" wherein Michelle was one of the sources quoted as to the extent of Ayer's involvement in the project.

I suggest you pick up a copy of Cashill's book when it comes out in February. Should be very interesting.

Momma always said "Sometimes you need to shut up and just listen." Obviously, Palin has not learned that lesson. Palin should listen to Barbara Bush, stay in Alaska. The more Palin is in the public spotlight, the more the public gets tired of her.

Sarah Palin proves everyday why she is not fit to be president, can we say anger management issues. Anyone who thinks Palin is fit to be president is not fit to vote. She is out of her league when it comes to politics.

Momma always said "Sometimes you need to shut up and just listen." Obviously, Palin has not learned that lesson. Palin should listen to Barbara Bush, stay in Alaska. The more Palin is in the public spotlight, the more the public gets tired of her.

Sarah Palin proves everyday why she is not fit to be president, can we say anger management issues. Anyone who thinks Palin is fit to be president is not fit to vote. She is out of her league when it comes to politics.

First of all, I was having a discussion and wasn't aware that it was some kind of competition. I disagree with you and you have yet to discuss Sarah Palin being a fighter when she is not. She is a quitter who doesn't take well to political pressure. Palin is very comfortable what she is doing and that's making money. She couldn't care less about the needs of others. She cares about her interests and the more we talk about her, the more she laughs all the way to the bank.

The media are not liberal, its purpose at the moment is about making money. I was watching CNN last week with Don Lemon and the majority the hour was about Bristol Palin and Dancing with the Stars, and I don't consider it news worthy. This one of the problem with 24-hour news cable, producers have to fill the hour with something. MSNBC does more prison and caught on tape documentaries on the weekends until you have to shake your head. You have too many people opining than presenting the news. Sarah Palin makes a gaffe and it's the leading news story, the President gets 12 stitches and it's breaking news when it should have been a sidebar and not a major news story.

No I did not watch the video when I watch the coverage of the campaign, and at the beginning of the campaign the media did not believe that Barack Obama did not have a chance of winning the election. The fact of the matter is that he ran one of the most successful political campaigns in history. And look who he was running against McCain along with the political climate. There were several factors for Obama winning the election and having excellent timing doesn't hurt either. Obama was in the right place at the right time. That's my assessment based on observation. I wonder how everything would have been different if Colin Power had ran for President in 2000, but that is a different conversation for another time.

Which perhaps illustrates all there is to know about you. You are apparently wedded to a liberal mindset that can only be maintained through ignorance, an ignorance which you jealously defend by choosing only those sources of information that validate that worldview.

Obama certainly was in the right place at the right time. That he happened to be the wrong man was kept from most of the American people.

There is something about information that needs to be verified. Where did the video come from and what the the motives of the individuals who produced it? I read many resources and the media are not my only source. I just recently watched a documentary called "we the People" The Election of Barack Obama, and will tell that will not be the only source.

Luthor you are clearly a very stupid little man, if you believe Cashill has made a "convincing case" then you are clearly too dim to talk to. As I said earlier, you conservatives are losing your grip on reality. There is no evidence anywhere to suggest anyone but Obama wrote his book. Still let's not let anything so boring as 'reality' or 'facts' get in the way of a good deranged racist rant hey?

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"you pulled out everything you had, including the kitchen sink on poor American Anon. And your American wife and two sons are ok with that? "

It's not even close to everything I have, not even a tenth of one percent. My wife probably wouldn't agree with my assessment, though she is beginning to despair.

My kids probably would agree. Their American passports are up for renewal and they are lobbying strongly not to renew them. Though I probably will anyway.

**"That anon must have really gotten to you. Well, Americans tend to do that to condescending snobish Europeans."

I don't think you understand what the word 'condescending' means.

**

But you are right, America could be on the decline in the world. At least for the moment. Question is, "will we stay there?" I mean, they don't call us cowboys of wild wild West for nothing.

I hate to disappoint you, but nobody anywhere calls you guys 'cowboys of wild wild west'.

@anon 1:05 1. how do you know I'm not a Muslim? 2. Why do you equate Islam with terrorism and 3. do you really believe that a Black man living in either Chicago, New Orleans, Philly or L.A. really has to worry about Al Queda? How about a white guy in Billings? Good god how do you even get out of bed being so scared of your own shadow? As far as you not flying UAL I'm pretty sure we won't miss you and for the record I don't believe your a pilot. Gee, I figured someone as smart as you would be a rocket scientist or nuclear physicist or something like that. Get some help with your paranoia dude. And get a job.

Well, since we can call Palin White trash umpteen times surely we can call the Obamas racist names umpteen times also.

Are you folks and Feral ready for the racist name calling? I bet Blacks have far more degrading names than Whites could ever have.

You continually set yourself up to be called vile racist names that can raze you to the ground. Then you cry like babies. Not very bright on your part.

I doesn't bother me one bit. The only blacks that are offended by the vile racist names are the one who strive to lick your boots and yearn for your acceptance. I quit that game many moons ago. So, go ahead and launch the "vile racist terms." I am sure I have heard them all...lol.

Feral, "I doesn't bother me one bit. The only blacks that are offended by the vile racist names are the one who strive to lick your boots and yearn for your acceptance. I quit that game many moons ago. So, go ahead and launch the "vile racist terms." I am sure I have heard them all...lol."

You are an expert in bootlicking, you are tired of and now you are angry at yourself for doing it. I don't blame you.

However, a black person like yourself who calls her white trash-- and justify doing so, ought to take a good look in the mirror and ask themselves, "how does it 'feel' when someone calls me a nigger or a coon or a monkey?"

You are an expert in bootlicking, you are tired of and now you are angry at yourself for doing it. I don't blame you."

Um, no. I was stupid enough to buy into the brainwashing drivel that America is a melting pot...blah...blah...blah. Then again, if that's all that is preached to a kid, then he/she doesn't know any better.

Now, I KNOW the real deal. You stay over there and I'll stay over here.

Anon said, "However, a black person like yourself who calls her white trash-- and justify doing so, ought to take a good look in the mirror and ask themselves, "how does it 'feel' when someone calls me a nigger or a coon or a monkey?"

Feral said, "I consider it a badge of honor. I must be doing something right."

7:17 PM__________________________________

Are you female? And maybe you need to read what Anon said to Hennasplace again because you seem confused about feelings...you are not making any sense. DID HENNASPLACE PUT YOU UP TO SAY THIS? What a coward. No wonder she is so obsessed with cowardice.

Actually, i don't do angry. I never get angry, though sometimes I wish I could.

Anyways, though I'd love to continue this largely meaningless and somewhat superficial conversation further, The Ashes are just starting on Sky Sports 1 and I'm looking forward to watching K.P. kick some Aussie butt.

"Maybe I'm a little slow but I didn't know that bm could have babies or abortions."

Leave it to Steve, yup, only a sexist man like him in this day and age would think it's only women who are "having" children.

Hey FP, that Anon had me rolling too... and Anon, how symbolic indeed. I bet he didn't see that one coming, just like he's not going to see that kick coming this 2012 election from his adopted Hispanic community.

The cables show the extent of US spying on its allies and the UN; turning a blind eye to corruption and human rights abuse in "client states"; backroom deals with supposedly neutral countries; lobbying for US corporations; and the measures US diplomats take to advance those who have access to them.

This document release reveals the contradictions between the USA's public persona and what it says behind closed doors, and shows that if citizens in a democracy want their governments to reflect their wishes, they should ask to see what's going on behind the scenes.

My fellow Americans in all 57 states, the time has changed for come. With our country founded more than 20 centuries ago, we have much to celebrate - from the FBI's 100 days to the reforms that bring greater inefficiencies to our health care system. We know that countries like Europe are willing to stand with us in our fight to halt the rise of privacy, and Israel is a strong friend of Israel's. And let's face it, everybody knows that it makes no sense that you send a kid to the emergency room for a treatable illness like asthma and they end up taking up a hospital bed. It costs, when, if you, they just gave, you gave them treatment early, and they got some treatment, and ah, a breathalyzer, or an inhalator. I mean, not a breathalyzer, ah, I don't know what the term is in Austrian for that…

"Well LAA my sista, if you can produce an example of a bm giving birth or having an abortion procedure I'll concede your point."

As usual you missed the point, and I bet you meant that both literally and figuratively too. LOL.

I can't tell you how many times I've heard decent men say things like "we're pregnant, we're going to have a baby". You see that's why the Anony doesn't like you, you're trying to make all black men look bad, he's knows better, he wants out! LOL.

"As far as your obsession with hispanics, who is the hispanic contender to Obama?"

That wasn't my point either, but hey on that note, let one of those contenders claim that their mother-cousin-brother-aunt was Hispanic, and you'll see how fast the Hispanic vote would flip the script on Obama, LOL. They can be similar to blacks, to heck with politicians who might kick them in the ass as long as they are 'one of us' that's how they roll sometimes too. LOL.

you might want to try to read some of the comments in that thread. You might get something into that thick skull of yours."

Only trailer-trash would cite a blog as a reputable source.

Only a trailer-trash denizen would parrot "72% OF BLACK BABIES ARE BORN OUT OF WEDLOCK." to support his/her stupid and thoughtless comment:

Most bm of your ilk have several out of wedlock and leave family behind. You are an exceptional bm from the ghetto...how many abortions did you have?"

Only an idiot would support your so-called analysis by calling your dumb position/comment a beautiful slam dunk.

After reading the statistic "72% OF BLACK BABIES ARE BORN OUT OF WEDLOCK", a person with 1/10 of a brain would ask the following questions:

1. Is there a father in the home as out of wedlock does not mean father is not home?

2. If the father is not in the home, is he in the child's life?

3. If the father is not in the child's life, why? Is he incarcerated, dead or uncaring?

4. Is the mother keeping the child away from the father?

5. Does the mother know who is the father?

I don't fault you for not asking yourself those questions, because idiotic anon-trailer-trash is incapable of thinking beyond headlines when they think those headlines support their stupid agenda (that is bashing black folks). I am cool with that.

Ernesto, "Now the anon troll is not only pretending to be black, female and/or hispanic, it is actually talking to itself. Someone please send this fool a refill for his meds."

Poor Ernesto. He thinks anons are the same person while everyone knows different. How pathetic. You sorry bm are angry because anon pissed on your "boy" Feral..(yeah, I said 'boy' again...because he is a boy). And so are you, Ernesto. Now go get your bottle of warm milk and go to bed.

Actually, Bin Laden was on the CIA payroll for years and our client states such as Saudi Arabia continue to support people who want to kill you. Of course, you would know this if you pulled your head out of Fake News/your ass.

"Obviously you are lousy at recognizing styles of writing and cannot tell the difference."

You all render the same murky picture of fact-free, dittohead talking points sprinkled with the lamest ad hominems in internet history. I guess I need to be better versed in the intracacies of wingnut cluelessness. No thanks!

seriously, between you and the sharp as whips anons, my sides hurt from laughing when i visit.

i started to address the fact that decent men, will acknowledge that "they" are pregnant when speaking of the unit they are committed to building. however, i decided to let it ride since it won't make a difference anyways. denial must be uts own personal crack. and you know it is a bad idea to try to snatch a crackhead's pipe. lol. the grip will only be loosened when they decide to put the pipe down.

frankly, i have greater hope of seeing crack introduced as a new food group, than holding out hope for uts to knock it off. shrug. i still marvel that someone actually said yes to his proposal and created little uts. lol. ok, i slapped my own hand on that one. bad. bad. be nice. lol.

she addresses those that have checked out on their responsibilities as men. men that are committed to the 24/7/365 job of parenting tend to marry the mother of their children---it is their way of saying i am here and committed. but now, that could create legal problems if they keep creating more babies with other women...which may explain the reluctance/refusal to marry.

teleparenting, twice a month arbitrary pick ups to drop off at his mom's house, check cutting, and the new school mess is hardly parenting. SANE folks KNOW this. lol.

"ooohhh, so now you're acknowledging good black men and involved fathers."

seriously?

so ANYTIME ANYONE mentions that other BIG chunk of black maledom, in some folks' tiny minds that REALLY means there are NO good bm and involved fathers?

why do we not hear bw doing this type of craziness when folks, rightfully, address the serial babymamas? ever notice bw don't launch into the whole, "ALL bw are not babymamas" song and dance? my hands are up. i am back to ignore. LAA, take it away sis. i lack the patience! IF excuses and truth evading were progress, folks like this would rule the world... but alas, that mess just won't cut it!

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