Comments on: The new underclasshttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/
Canada's national weekly current affairs magazineTue, 31 Mar 2015 21:33:39 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2By: John Duncanhttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051681
John DuncanThu, 24 Jan 2013 01:27:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051681A part of the problem that was almost entirely glossed over by this article is the problem of globalized “free” trade agreements.

I think trading with other nations is great. I think places that have true competitive advantage for some item should make said items and freely sell them abroad.

But that’s not the world we live in. Instead we pass reasonable laws in Canada regarding labour, safety and environmental standards. And we simply do not allow companies to operate here without complying with our laws.

But we don’t require the same of foreign producers. So companies ship work overseas to countries that have abominable and inhuman standards, and then let them export vast quantities of goods back to us without penalty for what would be criminal behaviour in Canada.

Canadians are told that we need to reduce costs so we can compete, but that’s not real competitive advantage, it’s just a race to the bottom. Our trade agreements should include massive tariffs on goods coming from countries/companies that don’t act responsibly–if a company wants to sell into Canada, then they don’t get to exploit unreasonably cheap labour and disastrously lax environmental standards.

If we did so, you would see no small number of those “vanished” manufacturing jobs return to our shores.

]]>By: Cytotoxichttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051679
CytotoxicWed, 23 Jan 2013 23:05:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051679“People talk about the entitlement of the millennial generation,” says Diana Bailey, a 24-year-old advertising student at Toronto’s Humber College, who has found nothing better than an unpaid internship to sustain her after she graduates this spring. “But in most cases, the only option that’s being offered to us is indentured servitude.”

“Making me work at something I don’t like or for less than I want is slavery. I’m not entitled!”

Oh God the irony.

]]>By: Valuemonitorhttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051677
ValuemonitorWed, 23 Jan 2013 17:16:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051677I live in the Southern US, and am not familiar with conditions in Canada. However, it seems that we face some similar problems. When I was growing up our town had three policemen, a police chief, and a dispatcher. Thirty years later, the town population has doubled, and we have thirty four cops. The police cars are brand new, and you rarely see only one car. The cars follow each other on calls. Interestingly, the population is now much wealthier than it was back in the day. We have little crime. Why do we need all these police?
]]>By: somepeople...http://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051675
somepeople...Wed, 23 Jan 2013 16:38:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051675Did you miss the part about employers cutting job training more and more in the current economic climate? How old is your husband? What do you do for employment? Do you simply live off of the rig pig’s earnings? Have you ever been in the position of a university graduate struggling to find gainful employment? What about a post-millenial university graduate struggling to find gainful employment? I’m glad you have sooo much to contribute to this discussion, what with your vast knowledge of modern canadian economics and employment
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Ira SmithWed, 23 Jan 2013 15:46:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051673Very interesting article. However, I feel it stops short. I would love to see a follow up article about what all these 20 something’s are now doing. My guess is that entrepreneurial activities will be on the rise as people start their own small business out of necessity. Older adults with full time jobs are doing so to establish a Plan B and to protect against downsizing, so why would the unemployed well educated young adults not also?
]]>By: C8http://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051671
C8Wed, 23 Jan 2013 07:29:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051671Thank you for what you do! You are not a sucker, you are doing something smart (you are getting the cream of the crop after all, lol) and proving that maybe there is some hope after all :)
]]>By: milleniumkidhttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051669
milleniumkidWed, 23 Jan 2013 07:02:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051669I can’t help but wonder if Melanie would have found a position if she had applied for jobs outside of the lower mainland. I have found plenty of work in the north in my field (as a bratty kid from the millennial generation, I might add), and diversity of positions that need to be filled. Unfortunately, quite a few people are not willing to make the move out of the city. I think they need to put aside their misconceptions about northern living. Or not… More jobs for us.
]]>By: Take a chancehttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051667
Take a chanceWed, 23 Jan 2013 04:45:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051667Canadians are valued all over the world for higher education, technical skills and good ethics. One needs to have the courage to leave the comforts of home and contribute elsewhere, internationally. Go out into the world, where Canaddians are needed!!
]]>By: Dan Orivierehttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051665
Dan OriviereWed, 23 Jan 2013 03:53:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051665Enough about how the boomers are the source of all your problems. Canada (and the rest of the world) has changed and will continue to change. You’ve got to adapt as those changes come your way. Like the US Marines say: “Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome”.
]]>By: KGhttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051663
KGTue, 22 Jan 2013 23:54:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051663actually we are inheriting an entire mess.. If you haven’t realized, there have been wars all over the middle-east since the dawn of the word Terrorism.
]]>By: disturbedhttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051661
disturbedTue, 22 Jan 2013 19:00:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051661Good luck filling the skilled trades with the new E.I. rules. A young trades person won’t have a chance. Most construction trades are seasonal for the first few years until you can go from apprentice to contractor. 10 Years from now is when these changes will really be felt.
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modster99Tue, 22 Jan 2013 17:47:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051659I want to clarify your post. You say that not way on earth will you move for employment? If that is the case, I have no pity for you. I would move anywhere in the world to look after mayself and my family.
]]>By: modster99http://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051657
modster99Tue, 22 Jan 2013 17:45:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051657People who want to eat work where there is work.
]]>By: modster99http://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051655
modster99Tue, 22 Jan 2013 17:44:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051655Then starve.
]]>By: blythehttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051653
blytheTue, 22 Jan 2013 16:33:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051653There’s another problem not discussed in the article– the presence of global free (or nearly free) trade, with the absence of global migration rights. Countries are (sensibly) specialising in certain industries, but skilled and talented people are not necessarily permitted to follow. I am an editor, specialised in the production of academic titles. Globally, it is a growing industry. There are hundreds of positions available in New York, Chicago, San Francisco, and London. I worked in London until the UK changed its immigration laws in 2011-12, and now find myself stuck in Canada with a useless set of skills, since the immigration rules of both the US and the UK do not allow me to work there (the really stupid part is if I wanted to be an accountant for, say, the University of Chicago Press, that’s allowed under the TN Visa category. An editor for the same press, which sells thousands of books in Canada each year? Nope. Not allowed). And all of the big publishers produce their books in those two countries, and then “sell” the rights to a Canadian subsidiary, who repackage them and puts a “Canada” on the covers. But the only person employed in Canada is a bloody marketer.

The ONLY reason why I am currently underemployed is because I am a Canadian, and only a Canadian. If I had an EU or US passport, I would be a much, much more productive member of the global community.

Here, I still apply to jobs which come up with the few publishers who have tiny little Canadian editorial offices…but it’s just impossible. I think my project management (and people management) skills could translate reasonably well into a tech workplace, but I don’t get callbacks because my skills, experience, and qualifications don’t match the template some overpaid HR sheep fed into the computer to cover for her dearth of critical thinking skills.

Canada has specialised in natural resources and tech companies. Outside of that, you can work in healthcare and financial services. If you want to work in one of the flourishing industries where Canadians are consumers, but no longer creators, you are only permitted to do so if you already possess another passport. It is absurd.

]]>By: 10yearsanditsstillthesamehttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051651
10yearsanditsstillthesameTue, 22 Jan 2013 03:44:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051651My word of advice… save your money…don’t go to college or university. I graduated with a BA and after 10 years work experience still feel cheated because high-school educated colleges do the same work as me and live more comfortably due to not starting life in an academic debt hole. Take the money and invest it in your own venture, be your own boss and create your own wealth. If I could turn back time I would have saved my 30 g’s and just put in into a store or service that i’d run on my own.
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Ian ClarkeTue, 22 Jan 2013 02:04:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051649While I understand the critism about having kids when you can not afford them I know the alternative is a lonely painful path. It’s really the only thing that saddens me about my prospects. I have come to accept the fact I will never own a home, retire and enjoy exotic vacations but accepting that being in a strong two working adult relationship will never be enough for me to have a child “responsibly” cuts a very deep pain.
Most 20 something’s have no great futures ahead of them. They will need to choose between being bad parents or not being parents at all. Others will make their choices but I can’t accept having kids when I don’t know how to pay the power bill, and it saddens me. My family dies with me.
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AnnaTue, 22 Jan 2013 00:43:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051647My point was that while university prepares people for academic careers and white collar jobs, a university degree provides students with knowledge about politics/economics/social issues etc.

Technical programs provide only the career without the additional knowledge. While I have no doubt that technical school graduates are highly employable, I think they could also benefit from lessons about how society works.

Unfortunately, this is lacking in high schools as well. I completely agree with you that these lessons could be improved at a high school level, but I’m not just talking about career paths. For example, someone may be a welder in the future, but it is important that they understand the basics of “what exactly does liberal, conservative, and NDP mean in Canada” because they have the power to vote.

University degrees have historically been considered the way to create “well-rounded” individuals. But, it would be fantastic if we could reform other education systems to produce similar results using less time/money.

]]>By: AnnoyedSailorhttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051645
AnnoyedSailorMon, 21 Jan 2013 21:38:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051645I find this entire situation so frustrating. I graduated highschool in ’07, and pursued a mix of skilled trades and academic education, as I (along with everyone else my age) was fully aware of the limitations of a purely academic education in todays job market. Since officially graduating in August with both technical certification and a bachelors, I have paid of all of my student debt and am living quite comfortably, making ~100k a year as a Ship’s Officer working a month-on month-off rotation. My generation is not stupid, they were made fully aware of the employment situation before enrolling in post-secondary education, yet due to some sort of willful ignorance, they have ignored it. I think the biggest issue we face today is a generation that expects to “love” their work. I think although it is certainly something to aspire to, employment (at least in my mind) is more about providing an opportunity at quality of life through resources, rather than quality of life itself. Its a vocation, not a vacation, as they say .
]]>By: ChristopherHalbersmahttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051643
ChristopherHalbersmaMon, 21 Jan 2013 21:13:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051643But not altogether inaccurate.
]]>By: Andrew Martinhttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051641
Andrew MartinMon, 21 Jan 2013 19:21:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051641You don’t know what you are talking about.

I worked in the public sector and it pays far less than the private sector. AND the public sector pays far more in other countries for the same job.
Public employees pay and make contributions for all their benefits. In addition, they do not get to collect all the pension they contributed to plus CPP like the private sector gets to – it gets clawed back. Also, Federal dental and all that SUCKS.
Stop with the pathetic whiny myths. Don’t confuse the PM’s office and the majority of the public sector workers who live paycheque to paycheque.
As for the private sector – they are more top heavy with their money leaving only a few truly wealthy and not sharing with the rest. The public sector redistributes the wealth and provides services we need and want.
You are a typical nonsense complainer. You want the gov’t to give you what you want when you want it but you don’t want any public servants. Explain the logic in that. They already don’t have enough staff to open mail or answer phones. But the PM’s circle is expanding. Get your facts straight and stop blaming the majority that we need and who serve us well.

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Andrew MartinMon, 21 Jan 2013 19:07:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051639This generation needs to open their minds. Your education can be used in areas other than what you intended it for….at least until you can get into your area.
I also notice 20-somethings think that their degree alone makes them useful and deserving of a high paying job. You need to work your way up by learning the ropes. Your degree teaches you nothing about your employer or about office/corporate dynamics. If you have a degree or even 2 or 3 but your work experience consists of serving drinks, you are only hireable for the mailroom or reception.

Side Note: Young women need a reality check on workplace attire. It’s not a nightclub, it’s an office. I’ve seen many not get hired or promoted because they dress like they are working at Hooters.

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TimMon, 21 Jan 2013 17:15:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051637First of all, university is not a vocational training institute. A university education teaches one to think and evaluate critically. That said, a good university education should enable a person to dig deeply into one’s own field, while not losing sight of how his or her knowledge is related or “fit in” with the big picture, and that’s where a general sense of history, philosophy and literature comes into play. The latter should prompt one to pick up and also be passionate with a “skill” and develop expertise in it. This would then allow a university graduate to participate fully in the labour market upon graduation while maintaining his or her “edge” because this is something on top of mere trades training.

Too bad the latter half is often overlooked and not given enough emphasis by most.

]]>By: suandachhttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051635
suandachMon, 21 Jan 2013 16:29:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051635Considering that many recent university grads are returning to community colleges to complete post graduate studies that teach them practical skills that employers are looking for, I find the suggestion a little funny that colleges should adopt some of the universally useful lessons taught in universities. The “universally useful lessons” that employers do not appear to be hiring for. The only university programs that I am aware of where students are graduating and walking into jobs are nursing and engineering. I’m not saying that critical thinking/awareness skills are not valuable but these days employers are looking for people who have specific skills that will have them up and running right out of the gate.

Many community colleges partner with industry to develop fullsome courses that turn out very employable students. There are many careers and programs offered by community colleges that are in demand that are not “stigmatized” as dirty work associated with the trades. Maybe more focus should be made in high schools on specific careers/career paths.

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MechMon, 21 Jan 2013 02:47:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051633I am a skilled trades person from Europe and I dont understand it here!! I got my qualifications here by sitting an hour test, they did not want to see my credentials or schooling I just needed to provide a letter from an employer saying I have worked for 8000 hours in a technical field. I then sat the test which you can learn to pass at college (10 weeks course)
Yikes beats 5 years apprenticeship and 7 years at college I guess!!!!!!
]]>By: Mike896http://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051631
Mike896Mon, 21 Jan 2013 01:53:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051631The problem is rampant socialism. By definition, a person is not well-educated unless they have a high probability of finding a job with their skills. The economic downturn means the demand for labour has decreased.
]]>By: Gunther Mallyhttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051629
Gunther MallyMon, 21 Jan 2013 01:52:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051629Stop crying the government just increased immigration and refugees for this year. It can’t be that bad. Hint of sarcasm, tell your MP how you feel. Be idle no more!
]]>By: Bradhttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051625
BradMon, 21 Jan 2013 01:33:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051625Everyone always thinks everyone ELSE’S degree is useless.
]]>By: sarah steinhttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051627
sarah steinMon, 21 Jan 2013 01:33:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051627Canada needs more immigrants to do the jobs Canadians won’t do.
]]>By: Bradhttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051623
BradMon, 21 Jan 2013 01:22:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051623The RCMP ARE the terrorists.
]]>By: Bradhttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051621
BradMon, 21 Jan 2013 01:14:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051621Exactly. It’s the sense of corporate entitlement. Corporations want all the freedom, benefits and profits, without any responsibility.
]]>By: rigpigswifehttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051619
rigpigswifeMon, 21 Jan 2013 00:03:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051619Do you have any idea what youa re talking about?? My husband is a “rig pig” & we live quite comfortably. He started at the bottom but now makes over $180 000 a year. I’m quite satisfied with our quality of life. He has done a lot of training/schooling while working on the rig to improve his position, all paid for by the company. Oh, and did I mention, he only works 6 months of the year!
]]>By: Frustrated45http://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051617
Frustrated45Sun, 20 Jan 2013 23:33:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051617This isn’t just a problem for young twenty somethings … it is also a problem for those of us over 40, and need work … I have an undergraduate degree, a masters degree, college certificates and professional licencing …. left traditional work force for 5 years, and the return has been gruelling, depressing, and demoralizing …
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borntorunSun, 20 Jan 2013 22:23:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051615Wow, I remember when I was in my 20′s just out of school and that was when it was all about equal rights hiring and well I could not find a job. I had 7 years University and 3 years of College and well, could not get a big job. I worked hard for 15 years and then I got one. This is like homes cost too much, Canada Goose never on sale, Lexus costs too much. Nothing comes easy, work hard and it will come. Its always been the same, I am Gen X, the lost gen, but somehow 20 years later we are buying Million dollar conds and doing well.
]]>By: Elizabeth_Erwinhttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051613
Elizabeth_ErwinSun, 20 Jan 2013 19:01:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051613The point is that companies want SKILLED tradesmen, not people who want to learn how to BECOME skilled tradesmen. Therein lies the difference. Corporations with record profits want to hire people who already have experience in the exact job for which they are in demand. But they refuse to consider anyone who may have great potential, just needs to be trained. That’s where the model has fallen apart. Corporations expect some other portion of society to train their workers. And society isn’t doing it.
]]>By: Realityhttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051611
RealitySun, 20 Jan 2013 16:54:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051611Oh yes, who wouldn’t want to work in -45 degree weather?
]]>By: phaseshifthttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051609
phaseshiftSun, 20 Jan 2013 10:46:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051609Of course I applied anyway, I’m not completely braindead. Nothing will do, even if you actually have all the required skills. Things got better when I realised I needed to apply where I can directly reach the boss instead of facing the grinder of human resources but this is not a option for everyone everywhere.
]]>By: berniehttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051607
bernieSun, 20 Jan 2013 05:07:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051607Hello, I graduated 15 years ago so my advice may be a bit outdated. I have worked outside Canada for the last 7 years (more or less). Whatever your job is – not just manufacturing, but also in services (I work in IT) – companies are finding workers. I work in europe right now and believe me there’s a lot of guys in Hungary/Poland with good master degrees in you name it who speak English, German, Spanish, French etc who’ll do a job for 1/3 to 1/2 the price. The complaints of Canadian companies with labour shortages are complaining because they want to stay in Canada. They may have good reason to stay, but the workforce exists elsewhere (I am only speaking of Eastern Europe and I can imagine Asian as a whole and South America as a whole mayh have some interesting talent as well (for American english speakers)…

The gaps in wages aren’t huge (10-30% difference) and culturally overall we are more focused on performance compared to the operations I’ve been involved in – but we should not fool ourselves that there is a ‘labour shortage’. Canadians are reluctant to move certain operations overseas (maybe for good reason).

Part of my family are first generation immigrants to Canada and I am a strong believer that immigration is part of what has made our nation an open and strong nation and culture. I think we are more ready than any developed nation to handle what I see as a transition of influence and power. But I think it is in our nation’s interest to understand that this is what is happening. We are not better/worse than anyone else outiside our borders and we may have to redefine our idea of what it means to be ‘middle class’.

I think our future generations will be ok if we find a way not to burden them with the massive obligations that await them to support an aging population which may possibly not have paid their way to their entitlements. And – more importantly, because I feel they’llhave to pay for it anyway – I hope for our newer generations to recognize the level of competence (and comptetition) outside our borders and outside our continent.

No one’s going to read this because it’s too long, but I like and disliked this article, and I felt I had to react to it.

]]>By: Vancouver Landlordhttp://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051605
Vancouver LandlordSun, 20 Jan 2013 00:49:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051605Kids these days are so lazy. Why don’t they join the military or work on a fishing boat. I see nothing but advertisements for the Canadian Military. After I finished my grade 10 I got a job at a car factory. I had moxie in those days. I personally hand delivered my resume to the receptionist at the car factory. They were so impressed with my ambition that they hired me on the spot without an interview. I worked there for 35 years working the line and never called in sick once. Since I never finished high school I knew I would never get a job as an Engineer or President which I thought was wrong because I had been at the factory longer. Kids today just want to go to University to drink and look at pretty girls so they do useless degree’s. Its their own fault.
]]>By: truenorthfree2http://www.macleans.ca/society/life/the-new-underclass/#comment-1051603
truenorthfree2Sat, 19 Jan 2013 22:29:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=335091#comment-1051603“Melanie Cullins is no pipe dreamer”

I would beg to disagree.

This person has made two rather large errors that seem to be perpetuated by a lot of job seekers, First she is unwilling to move from the expensive BC area Secondly she went and had a kid before getting a secured job.

Take some responsibility for your life and realize that YOU need to make better decisions and a degree will not negate the poor decisions made.

PS I am someone who graduated in the oil and gas industry during the great oil price bust in Calgary of 1986.
Jobs disappeared and people just up and left with a good many houses left vacant, I moved to where ever I could to get any type of work and kept at it until many years later I was able to get my foot in the door and progress along.
It was not easy and it sure was not the way that I had planned it, but I made sure that I always worked at something whether it was in the field I was trained in or not. Rome was not built in a day and not all careers can be either.