Died in the nightLucky:Priestess - at the end of every day, you pray to Horus for the strength to fight the impending forces of Anubis. You swear that if Horus grants you this strength, you will use it.

At 10/11/2014 9:47:48 PM, Daltonian wrote:I'm reading through the DP and 9space's vote is changing like wildfire and is totally inconsistent. I don't know if I can get a scum vibe from that, knowing him, though.

I don't understand the motivation in this s. Why would scum RB you and not the living town doc? Unless scum is the doc?

In any mafia game, one person carries out the night kill for maf. That kill can be stopped by roleblocking the mafia who carries out the night kill, because it counts as an action and roleblock cancels action. I don't understand why he wasn't roleblocked before and why no one else seemed to be. I guess Lucky was right about maf gaining new roles as the days go on, because it doesn't seem like they've gained kills and they clearly haven't gained numbers. But at the beginning of the game the only claimed roleblocks were outted by town blockers.

Between XLAV and Number, one is inching closer to pushing for a lynch and another is being half-active. I don't think Number would want to instigate a conflict between me and himself over favouring a ML if no one else was really pressuring anyone at all anyway.

I've been worried about you long since Wylted died, and I am going with my gut instinct. The only thing that worries me is how scum read MO was DP1, but it was also a very widespread scum read and having played with Joey in live mafia before, I think (especially judging the posts and events that occurred from him shortly after he left the game) he may have become easily frustrated as so.

XLAV's meta is odd and both him and Wylted struck me as having much more conservative play than usual.

I see no point in a NL. Scum has no logical reason to narrow down the pool of people for us to lynch between, and there are no investigative roles left. All that would accomplish for them (assuming town doc) is possibly risk a NK on someone with protection.. though that may not be the case, assuming the doc has failed to doc the obvious NK on at least two occasions where the scum roleblock was accounted for.

At 10/12/2014 8:48:27 AM, Daltonian wrote:Between XLAV and Number, one is inching closer to pushing for a lynch and another is being half-active. I don't think Number would want to instigate a conflict between me and himself over favouring a ML if no one else was really pressuring anyone at all anyway.

I've been worried about you long since Wylted died, and I am going with my gut instinct. The only thing that worries me is how scum read MO was DP1, but it was also a very widespread scum read and having played with Joey in live mafia before, I think (especially judging the posts and events that occurred from him shortly after he left the game) he may have become easily frustrated as so.

XLAV's meta is odd and both him and Wylted struck me as having much more conservative play than usual.

I see no point in a NL. Scum has no logical reason to narrow down the pool of people for us to lynch between, and there are no investigative roles left. All that would accomplish for them (assuming town doc) is possibly risk a NK on someone with protection.. though that may not be the case, assuming the doc has failed to doc the obvious NK on at least two occasions where the scum roleblock was accounted for.

VTL XLAV for death.

I think NL'ing is the best thing to do here. If bullish can roleblock the maf, then we will have confirmed maf. Either that, or the maf will kill bullish to prevent from being roleblocked and then we get a 3 way situation with an obvious conclusion. Yes, maf could just not kill and leave us in a 4 way. But since it makes literally no difference to town either way, we might as well nl and see if anything happens. The benefit of being able to have a 33% chance of lynching maf vs a 25% chance of maf is worth the cost of nl'ing and wasting a little bit of time. I'd far prefer to nl just on the off chance that we get it narrowed down further.

At 10/12/2014 8:48:27 AM, Daltonian wrote:Between XLAV and Number, one is inching closer to pushing for a lynch and another is being half-active. I don't think Number would want to instigate a conflict between me and himself over favouring a ML if no one else was really pressuring anyone at all anyway.

I've been worried about you long since Wylted died, and I am going with my gut instinct. The only thing that worries me is how scum read MO was DP1, but it was also a very widespread scum read and having played with Joey in live mafia before, I think (especially judging the posts and events that occurred from him shortly after he left the game) he may have become easily frustrated as so.

XLAV's meta is odd and both him and Wylted struck me as having much more conservative play than usual.

I see no point in a NL. Scum has no logical reason to narrow down the pool of people for us to lynch between, and there are no investigative roles left. All that would accomplish for them (assuming town doc) is possibly risk a NK on someone with protection.. though that may not be the case, assuming the doc has failed to doc the obvious NK on at least two occasions where the scum roleblock was accounted for.

VTL XLAV for death.

I think NL'ing is the best thing to do here. If bullish can roleblock the maf, then we will have confirmed maf. Either that, or the maf will kill bullish to prevent from being roleblocked and then we get a 3 way situation with an obvious conclusion. Yes, maf could just not kill and leave us in a 4 way. But since it makes literally no difference to town either way, we might as well nl and see if anything happens. The benefit of being able to have a 33% chance of lynching maf vs a 25% chance of maf is worth the cost of nl'ing and wasting a little bit of time. I'd far prefer to nl just on the off chance that we get it narrowed down further.

Khaos clarified that there are no TP in this game in the beginning, right?

If yes, I suppose I suppose I'd be down to NL..

.. but there is literally no logical reason for scum to do anything, for the exact indicative reasons you listed. IMO, all it would due is unnecessarily prolong the game.

- Why would scum bring it to a 33% chance instead of a 25%?- Why would scum risk being roleblocked by Bullish or protected by a doc (assuming there is one).. actually, it wouldn't be too relevant anyway judging they could just claim scum chose to forfeit the NK (or, even worse, not roleblock Bullish, forfeit the NK, and then effectively frame a townie who was roleblocked)

I see little pro-town use in NL. Sure, there's an off chance scum will be totally stupid, but it's not worth risking anti-town scenarios playing out..

At 10/12/2014 8:48:27 AM, Daltonian wrote:Between XLAV and Number, one is inching closer to pushing for a lynch and another is being half-active. I don't think Number would want to instigate a conflict between me and himself over favouring a ML if no one else was really pressuring anyone at all anyway.

I've been worried about you long since Wylted died, and I am going with my gut instinct. The only thing that worries me is how scum read MO was DP1, but it was also a very widespread scum read and having played with Joey in live mafia before, I think (especially judging the posts and events that occurred from him shortly after he left the game) he may have become easily frustrated as so.

XLAV's meta is odd and both him and Wylted struck me as having much more conservative play than usual.

I see no point in a NL. Scum has no logical reason to narrow down the pool of people for us to lynch between, and there are no investigative roles left. All that would accomplish for them (assuming town doc) is possibly risk a NK on someone with protection.. though that may not be the case, assuming the doc has failed to doc the obvious NK on at least two occasions where the scum roleblock was accounted for.