Bloomberg View: “To Defeat Islamic State, Treat Muslims Better”

At last, we have hit on the solution to the global jihad onslaught: just be nicer to Muslims, you greasy Islamophobes. All those people in the Brussels airport — just think of how mean they were being to Muslims. Some of them may even have been drinking alcohol. Oh, the Islamophobia! And those people at that Christmas party in San Bernardino, California: if only they had dropped their radically Islamophobic stance of going about their business and getting together for a friendly party with their coworkers. How dare they provoke Muslims in that way!

Stop resisting jihad: if you really want to defeat it, don’t fight back. Let it happen, keep smiling, keep being nice. Anything you do to defend yourself and your country may provoke the poor dears and “poke them in the eye.” We can’t have that. It’s time to cut out all the Islamophobia and be nice for a change. Then when global peace ensues, we can sit down for a hearty lunch (no pork or beer, you Islamophobes) with the caliph al-Baghdadi and share a hearty laugh over the folly of all that conflict.

In the 1940s, did Bloomberg View run the headline, “Want to stop Nazism? Treat the Gestapo Better”?

“In other words, people don’t join the Islamic State because their countries are poor or in crisis or because bad economic conditions increase the pressure on outsider groups. They join when a wealthy society fails to integrate them so that they could share in the wealth. Resentment, a feeling of being left out appears to be a stronger motivation for the recruits than economic hardship.” In reality, the New York Times reported in March that “not long after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001…Alan B. Krueger, the Princeton economist, tested the widespread assumption that poverty was a key factor in the making of a terrorist. Mr. Krueger’s analysis of economic figures, polls, and data on suicide bombers and hate groups found no link between economic distress and terrorism.”

CNS News noted in September 2013 that “according to a Rand Corporation report on counterterrorism, prepared for the Office of the Secretary of Defense in 2009, ‘Terrorists are not particularly impoverished, uneducated, or afflicted by mental disease. Demographically, their most important characteristic is normalcy (within their environment). Terrorist leaders actually tend to come from relatively privileged backgrounds.’ One of the authors of the RAND report, Darcy Noricks, also found that according to a number of academic studies, ‘Terrorists turn out to be more rather than less educated than the general population.’”

So they’re more integrated, rather than less — and yet they still turn to jihad. But the possibility that they could be motivated by the teachings of the Qur’an and Sunnah is one that Bloomberg is resolutely determined to ignore. Nor does Bloomberg’s Leonid Bershidsky see fit to mention that Muslims in Europe in particular have generally resisted integration: one Muslim leader, Dyab Abou Jahjah, said a few years ago that “assimilation is cultural rape.” But never mind: for the paternalistic Left, it’s always the West’s fault.

It is intuitively appealing to connect the number of fighters a country sends to the Islamic State with poverty and inequality. The more desperate and economically downtrodden people are, the more likely it is that they’ll join a terrorist group, right? Wrong, recent research indicates: It’s much more likely that the reasons for the Islamic State’s recruitment success are cultural.

The terror militia has between 25,000 and 30,000 foreign fighters in Syria and Iraq. Disproportionate numbers of these radicals hail from Muslim nations: Tunisia alone is responsible for 6,000 of them, according to the Soufan Group.

Thomas Piketty, probably the most fashionable economist since the 2008 financial crisis, has linked the phenomenon to the high income inequality in Middle Eastern nations, which he argued the West had helped foster by letting oil sheiks get rich and share little of their wealth. He also wrote that austerity policies applied in the wake of the crisis drove up unemployment levels and with them “national egoisms and identity tensions” that make immigrants feel unwelcome in countries such as France, which is the biggest Western supplier of Islamic State fighters.

Efraim Benmelech of Northwestern University’s Kellogg School of Management and Esteban Klor from the Hebrew University in Jerusalem tested Piketty’s hypothesis in a recent paper and found it inconsistent with the data.

They looked for correlations between the number of Islamic State recruits and indicators of countries’ social, political and economic health and discovered that the terrorists’ success rate at drawing in a country’s citizens is higher in wealthier, not poorer countries. A 10 percent increase in a nation’s per capita economic output is linked with a 1.5 percentage point increase in the likelihood that its citizens will join the Islamic State. Among non-Muslim countries, it is associated with a 5.1 percent increase in the number of recruits. A higher Human Development Index is also positively correlated with the militia’s success in a country. There are, however, no such correlations with inequality or unemployment. Otherwise countries such as Austria and Sweden wouldn’t be among the top 20 countries by per capita Islamic State recruitment.

Benmelech and Klor suggested a different explanation for recruitment success: It’s positively correlated with homogeneity in a society. The less ethnically diverse a society is, the more likely outsiders such as immigrants or second- or third generation Muslims are likely to turn to terror. The economists wrote of the Western European nations that supply a relatively high number of fighters:

“The more homogenous the host country is the greater difficulty immigrants such as Muslims from the Middle East experience in assimilating. As other research has shown, isolation induces some of them to become radicalized.”

In other words, people don’t join the Islamic State because their countries are poor or in crisis or because bad economic conditions increase the pressure on outsider groups. They join when a wealthy society fails to integrate them so that they could share in the wealth. Resentment, a feeling of being left out appears to be a stronger motivation for the recruits than economic hardship….

I? Anyway, I remember hearing about that last year – Erdogan and Mahmoud Abbas were special guests. That was, of course, before that Russian bomber was shot by a Turkish plane for (allegedly) breaching Turkish airspace, which was followed by a Russian frigate shooting against a Turkish fishing boat – I doubt Erdogan will be invited for the opening of the next mosque…

It’s just utter stupidity on the part of those academics who just avoid looking at the obvious and say “The King is naked”.

The reason why individuals become killer jihadists is because of what their religion vigorously ENJOINS them to do. If one is a serious Muslim, one is necessarily bound to embrace jihad either theoretically or in practice.

There are thousands of people of Sikh, Buddhist, Hindu, Shinto, background in the West, yet they are not so alienated that they seek to lash out at society.
with terror, rape and murder.

These dummy professors just don’t want to acknowledge that it is the nature and content of Islam that drives its adherents to violence and murder in a number of cases.

So how do they explain the persistent existence of the Philippines terror group, Abu Sayyaf? That group just recently beheaded a Canadian whom they had kidnapped. The media are so confoundedly pro-Islamic PC that they report that Ridsdel was “killed” rather than that he was “beheaded” which is the orthodox Islamic mode of slaughter.

How do the members of this group fit into the Bershidsky nonsense model?

That’s right. I believe they think the same way about TREATING Satan “nicely”‘ Why not? If one can make a trust-worthy FRIEND out of Satan…won’t he LOVE to stop persecuting us Christians? What a WONDERFUL NEW PLAN to stop all wars and earthquakes and droughts and volcanoes and floods and child-abuse etc, etc? Wonderful idea! Let’s do it!

Eureka, eureka, eureka…some highly intellectual person has found a solution to the WORLD-WIDE JIHADIST problem! Whoever who discovered this new method should be given the next NOBEL PRIZE for initiating world-wide peace with Islam. This plan will definitely ANNIHILATE this verse from the Koran: 8:12: “I will instill TERROR….”

IF feeling isolated is a factor, then sifting thru Islamic doctrine will reveal that muslims hate the kuffar and purposely avoid “integrating”, unless it is advantageous for a time to appear so. The excuse of isolation is taqiyya.
Muslims isolate themselves from other cultures as an act of faith, so what ever the “other” reasons someone may give, it all comes down to Islamic doctrine. And if you don’t understand that doctrine you will never accurately come to any conclusion of Muslim motivation.

‘Al Walaa wal Baraa’ is the second most important ‘essential doctrine’ of Islam (usul ud deen). It is a doctrine of religion-based apartheid. Muslims may associate, even work with the kufaar, but no kafir may rule over Muslims and no Muslim may socialize with kufaar outside of work.

Leonid Bershidsky has no idea that this doctrine even exists. He even dismissed that such an Islamic apartheid doctrine is ‘inherent in their culture’.

He thinks that Muslims will assimilate if invited to do so, whereas it is against Islam for a Muslim to assimilate.

Well, this is not just bad journalism, mostly it is just bad SCIENCE.
Its nice that Efraim Benmelech of Northwestern University’s Kellogg School of Management and Esteban Klor from the Hebrew University in Jerusalem “tested Piketty’s hypothesis in a recent paper and found it inconsistent with the data”, – because it does show that Piketty’s assumptions are nothing more than his own personal view on things, -and can certainly not be called scientific in ANY way – but their OWN conclusions that “the more homogenous the host country is the greater difficulty immigrants such as Muslims from the Middle East experience in assimilating.” and that “as other research has shown, isolation induces some of them to become radicalized”, are also in NO way proven by their data since the data only shows CORRELATION, not CAUSATION. Confusing these two things are the hallmark of bad science, – and of bad scientists.
In other words: Muslims themselves might well be the CAUSE of their failing to assimilate, which is of course, taken the teachings of islam, VERY likely to be the case.

“Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.” Quran 9:29

Islam does not support any such notion as “multiculturalism”. The Quran and Hadiths tell us, clearly, that Allah wants all people compliant to his rules; even if one is a nonbeliever. Muslims cannot be fully compliant unless they are able to prohibit forbidden behavior in the Infidels; something they cannot do if immersed as a minority in a powerfully resistant ethnic group.

These new jihadist recruits are not poor or under-privileged. They are devout because they had enough available time to learn and digest the fundamental sources of Islamic Ideology. Many are from the enclaves, no-go zones, where Allah’s rules are enforced, often in violation of civil law.

They are irritated by living in Allah-rejecting, pork-eating, drinking, fun-loving, creative, artistic societies with too much freedom. They take seriously Allah’s requirement to force infidels to comply but are powerless to do it. So they leave and join others with like minds, ISIS, etc, with the intention to eventually force Western infidels into submission or kill them.

Treating Muslims “better” is an open invitation to never-ending demands culminating in dhimmitude. There is no such thing as live-and-let-live in Islam.

I OFTEN SUGGEST THAT READERS CONTACT AUTHORS OF TRULY DUMB ARTICLES — AND THIS ONE REALLY MERITS SUCH ACTION.

Fortunately, there is a website “comment” section AND an email address for the author. Strategically, because we do not know the level of fairness determining how much truth about Islam a moderator will permit in that comment section, I strongly recommend that you SEND A COPY of what you write to the author.

And — to be sure he opens the email — make the subject line just ambiguous enough to have him take the bait. Something such as “My take on a recent column you wrote” or “Another point of view regarding your timely article”.

I thought that a click to Bloomberg’s website — provided by Robert in his post — was sufficient in terms of convenience, but your addition of the EDITOR’S ADDRESS enables getting in touch with another enabler of denial about Islam.

BTW, veteran commenter Jay Boo seems to again be irritated by the brief post you made above, presenting the ESSENCE of why our inflated-ego preening journalist-coterie know-nothings continue to toss blathering worthlessness to Americans.

Well, not everyone who parachutes in to JW has even a minimum awareness of the fact that source texts DO exist, clearly disclosing the motivation for Islam’s agenda of submission or conquest. So, the concise explanations you have provided for YEARS about that are very helpful to those newbie readers.

Confucius’ four levels of understanding
He who knows and knows not that he knows is asleep. Wake him.
He who knows not and knows that he knows not is a child. Teach him.
He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool. Shun him.
He who knows not and cares not that he knows not is dangerous. Remove him.
He who knows and knows that he knows is a wise man. Follow him.

The real solution on how to defeat the Islamic “state” or ISIS starts with a good understanding of the actual foundation of that brutal and deadly jihad entity ,ISIS. For ISIS is based on the Koran. As most readers of this site very well know, that that the ISIS is an actual Islamic organization and the the Muslims who are the jihadists who compose ISIS are real Muslims. So the ISIS/jihadists in their mad Islamic quest to establish a caliphate with use the brute powers of vicious force to reach that Islamic goal of theirs.Therefore to defeat ISIS which has the Koran or as some call it, the Quran as it’s foundation thus begins withan important question: “Is the Quran the Word of God or is it a fabrication of a man. Thus, is the Quran the truth or a fiction and a hoax ?” The jihadists,as those of ISIS, use many verses from the Quran as the main source of justification for their violence, mayhem and murders. As found in For example, 4:89. 5:33. 9:5,111,123. 47:4. There, the question is clearly given on pages 145 through 157 in THE ISLAMIC INVASION by Robert Morey in which he wrote a section on the Quran with its self-contradictions. Just two of the many he cited are the following “The Quran differs on whether a day is a thousand years or fifty thousand years in God’s sight’ and “Who was first to believe? Abraham or Moses [Sura 6:14 versus 7:143]? The above is inconsistent and illogical. Further, Morey wrote about “The fact that Judaism and Christianity broke up into different sects was used in the Quran to prove that they are not of God [Suras 30:20-32. 42:13, 14]. Yet Islam has broken up into many warring sects and therefore cannot be true if the Quran is right.” Moreover, Morey in his book shows many more contradictions and absurdities in the Quran, there are and how Muhammad incorporated extra Biblical and Jewish folklore along with pre-Islamic Arabian myth and parts of Zoroastrian and Hindu stories into the Quran. Furthermore, the Muslims claim that “the Quran is the direct, literal word of God unmodified in any way by the Prophet who uttered them at the bidding of God.” Nevertheless, in the book UNVEILING ISLAM by Ergun Mehmet and Eethi Caner has shown that the Quran was modified in the following account on pages 45. “Muhammad felt the need to improve on the words of Allah, since he changed Allah’s wisdom for his own on several occasions. A hadith tells of the nonchalant emendations of Muhammad:’ On a number of occasions he [a scribe] had, with the Prophet’s consent changed the closing words of verses. For example, when the prophet had said ‘God is mighty and wise ‘ Adbollah b. Abi Sarh suggested writing down ‘Knowing and wise’ and the Prophet answered that there was no objection. Having observed a succession of changes of this type, Adbollah renounced Islam on the grounds that revelations, if from God could not be changed at the prompting of a scribe such as himself. After his apostasy he went to Mecca and joined the Qorayshites.’ Other writers reveal that later Muhammad and his people did go war with the Qorayshites and he personally killed Abdollah. Obviously Abdollah knew too much and Muhammad wanted Abdollah’s knowledge to die with him.” In conclusion, the Quran is not only a fiction, it’s also a hoax.

So nice that i.e.Swedish ambulance service men and women are now demanding full military gear to enter a Muslim area because they get viciously attacked !
Why do the muslims call them out in the first place if they are only going to attack them?
What is the point of ‘military gear ‘ when no way are they going to shoot at the attackers,as this will not do in socialist Utopia Sweden, maybe use tear gas if they get ‘ really brutal’ …sarc ?
Why even go there in the first place if unwanted and they put themselves in danger
Hardly heroic, just stupid ?Let the muslims sort it out for whoever needs help or take them to hospital themselves, they have cars.
Is this the ‘nice ‘Bloomberg and the ‘ good people’mean,because it hasn’t helped muslims integrate in Sweden so far as this has been going on for decades in i.e.areas of Malmo , yet rampant riots, violence and raping of Swedish women only worsens !

Bloomberg should put his money where his mouth is: transfer his wealth and possessions to Muslims, and bask in the gratitude he will most assuredly receive in return. I’m sure he’ll feel good about himself as his throat is slit or big head is removed from his shoulders.

Europe ‘to have more Muslims than Christians’: Belgian minister warns Brussels attacks hearing that the continent should not ‘make an enemy of Islam’

-Koen Geens said the continent ‘does not realise this, but this is the reality’
-Remarks follow Jan Jambon’s claims in the wake of Brussels bombings ‘a section of the Muslim community danced when attack took place’
-Mr Jambon was accused of stoking tensions with Belgium’s Muslims

Blah, blah. More theorizing about the diversity/multiculturalism theory!

Yeah. All those Muslim MBAs and BSc’s can’t get work…that’s it…so they turn to jihad. The problem is caused by us…the narrow-minded, exclusive Westerners!

Leonid Bershidsky thinks that the lack of diversity in the West causes terrorism, but not any ideology ‘inherent in the culture’ of Islam. He dismisses that there’s an ideology of world conquest within Islam that is its prime political directive.

Diversity is the answer! Here we go again.

Bershidsky claims: “…inequality that breeds terrorism is not the kind measured by the Gini coefficient but the ethnically-driven one”. Right. Give those Muslim MBAs top jobs and jihad will just go away! They will feel friendlier to the dirty kafirs if they are their bosses! Any evidence of that?

Yeah! When did this Utopia of Muslim niceness happen in any part of Islamic history at times when Muslims held ALL the top jobs? In the Abassid dynasty? The Umayyad dynasty? The Turkish sultanate? The Turkish sultanate was one of the most multi-cultural societies in history! How did that work out for the several Christian and Armenian minorities? Was it lovey-dovey when Muslims held 99% of the top jobs?

So what makes Bershidsky believe jihad will cease if we just promote Muslims to top jobs? Is he guessing?

I think that the reverse is true: Whenever Muslims get the top jobs, the jihad increases due to the extra revenue that becomes available to pay for jihad.

Most of the jihadists are from Muslim majority countries, so the ‘diversity-deficit’ theory doesn’t explain it.

Muslims are not assimilating because their ‘culture’ tells them not to assimilate and to create an Islamic counter-culture that is supremacist and hostile to the host culture.

The more educated the Muslim, the more they READ BOOKS ON JIHAD and the more supremacist these educated Muslims become.

So to Mr. Bershidsky, I’d like to ask, ‘If you haven’t read Islamic history, what would evidence suggests that promoting Muslims to top positions would end the Third Great Jihad we are now experiencing? Isn’t that merely an uneducated guess couched in high-class verbiage?’

I can imagine Mr. Bershidsky’s advice to Corrado Cattani – “If you want to defeat the Mafia, treat mafiosos better”…

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It is intuitively appealing to connect the number of fighters a country sends to the Islamic State with poverty and inequality. The more desperate and economically downtrodden people are, the more likely it is that they’ll join a terrorist group, right? Wrong, recent research indicates: It’s much more likely that the reasons for the Islamic State’s recruitment success are cultural.”

If by “cultural” you mean “religious”, sure – the islamic state presents itself as the pinnacle of islam, as a place where muslims can live according to sharia law with all it entails: chopping the limbs of thieves, oppressing women and non-muslims, wage war for the sake of allah, etc. But you don’t mean that, do you? You mean that host nations have failed to assimilate muslims and left them disenfranchised, even thought they bent their laws and culture to allow muslim migrants to practice their own culture (because anything less would be “islamophobia”, “racism” or “bigotry”), and that for some unexplainable reason muslims aren’t being assimilated, that unexplainable reason being “islamophobia”, “racism or “bigotry”.

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The terror militia has between 25,000 and 30,000 foreign fighters in Syria and Iraq. Disproportionate numbers of these radicals hail from Muslim nations: Tunisia alone is responsible for 6,000 of them, according to the Soufan Group.”

Damn those muslim nations, always discriminating against muslims!

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Thomas Piketty, probably the most fashionable economist since the 2008 financial crisis, has linked the phenomenon to the high income inequality in Middle Eastern nations, which he argued the West had helped foster by letting oil sheiks get rich and share little of their wealth.”

Thomas Piketty is fashionable indeed, albeit a hack. Guess which two words can sum up his book “Capital in the 21st Century”? That’s right, “income redistribution”. There’s only so much wealth to go around, and if a nation is rich then it must have taken more than its “fair share”.

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He also wrote that austerity policies applied in the wake of the crisis drove up unemployment levels and with them “national egoisms and identity tensions” that make immigrants feel unwelcome in countries such as France, which is the biggest Western supplier of Islamic State fighters.”

Which doesn’t explain why only muslims join the islamic state while other minority groups in those Western countries are not doing anything remotely similar.

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Efraim Benmelech of Northwestern University’s Kellogg School of Management and Esteban Klor from the Hebrew University in Jerusalem tested Piketty’s hypothesis in a recent paper and found it inconsistent with the data.”

That such an easily disprovable nonsense was taken seriously enough to be tested is not a very good sign.

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Benmelech and Klor suggested a different explanation for recruitment success: It’s positively correlated with homogeneity in a society. The less ethnically diverse a society is, the more likely outsiders such as immigrants or second- or third generation Muslims are likely to turn to terror.”

Which is, like the previous hypothesis, sheer nonsense. Where are the terrorists from other minority groups in Western countries? Take the UK, for example. British muslims have joined ISIS. Why aren’t British Sikhs, Buddhists, Hindus, animists, wiccans or druids joining comparable groups?

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The economists wrote of the Western European nations that supply a relatively high number of fighters:

“The more homogenous the host country is the greater difficulty immigrants such as Muslims from the Middle East experience in assimilating. As other research has shown, isolation induces some of them to become radicalized.””

“Such as muslims from the Middle East”. No, you mean “only muslims are becoming radicalized”. You don’t see Christians from the Middle East joining terrorist groups the way muslims are.

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In other words, people don’t join the Islamic State because their countries are poor or in crisis or because bad economic conditions increase the pressure on outsider groups. They join when a wealthy society fails to integrate them so that they could share in the wealth.”

Again, it’s only muslims who join the islamic state. And even affluent, successful muslims with enough wealth to go around.

Thomas Piketty is fashionable indeed, albeit a hack. Guess which two words can sum up his book “Capital in the 21st Century”? That’s right, “income redistribution”. There’s only so much wealth to go around…

That’s why the strong affinity between globo-socialists (aka Democrats and RINOs) and Moslems: there is only so much freedom to go around. Redistribute freedom and it disappears by the hand of the central gubmint bureaucrats who do the redistributing.

Muslim leader Dyab Abou Jahjah said a few years ago that “assimilation is cultural rape.”
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Hmmm, that name rings a bell. Did this imam used to have a career in the movie business?
\https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jar_Jar_Binks

Only one thing to bear in mind: the branding of ‘good terrorists’ or ‘bad terrorists’ is something like an ostrich like attitude. The entire humanity shall stand as one nation and annihilate the destroyers of world peace. There can be no short cut or nice solution. If some crazy handful of people (they are, despite their numbers being 60000 or so–in comparison with the rest of the peace loving people of the world!) want to eliminate all who do not contribute to their theology or ideology–they should be first eliminated with all vehemence and force. This exercise is a must to save the mankind! There is no use in expecting a race who strictly adhere to: ‘Dar Ul Islam’-region of paradise where only muslims rule- and ‘Dar Ul Harab’- region of hell where non-muslims rule, and the region of hell to be forcibly converted, by whatever means and methods, into region of heaven!!!

Treat Moslems better?! This begs the question of whether it’s *possible* to treat them better. They’re given preference for importation so they can massively upgrade their living standards by welfare dole taking and Affirmative Action preferences, and it’s career suicide to publicly criticize them. But yes, it *is* possible to treat them better: implement the proposal backed by our next president, Hillary, to make it a felony crime to criticize Islam. That’s better.

It is shocking that a Congolese immigrant interviewed in Brussels after the bombing has a better grip on reality than this journalist.’Sure there is racism,but we work and we party.We don’t bomb people’.

My wife attended a meeting at our work place in which the subject was based on a book called “emotional intelligence”. Basically how to keep a straight face while managing people or just speaking to people. Also how to use encouraging tone and positive words. Seems great amongst civil and obedient people but instantly dubbed it “liberal” and “communist” as it appears to want to create a stencil for how to interact with people thus potentially white washing your personalty ( IMHO). Civil and obedient people don’t need too much fluff and they don’t need to be patronized either. This is all part of appeasing victim’s who have difficulty or flat out refuse too carry their fair share. Honesty and saying no seems hard to come by these days and more and more social engineering just keeps coming. This is probably a great book for politicians and lawyers but probably not the way you want to deal with a person that has violence included with their religion as a big part of their cultural back drop. I’ll lie to them with my smile (as they constantly do about their peaceful religion) and keep one hand on my holster.

Muslim migrants, and Muslims who are naturalised citizens CHOOSE to isolate themselves. This report has one good point that it states it’s not poverty that causes Jihadis. Now if those Bloomberg people would just see how the Qur’an commands Muslims to not be friends or associate with non-Muslims, and therefore they isolate themselves, we will have made progress.

“The less ethnically diverse a society is, the more likely outsiders such as immigrants or second- or third generation Muslims are likely to turn to terror. ”

We are to believe second or third generation Muslims are likely to turn to terror because they feel like outsiders? That is preposterous! Look at immigrants from just about anywhere on Earth. By the second or third generation they are usually as Westernized as you or I. Think about it – the second generation is born in the West, begins kindergarten, speaks English fluently, grows up and takes their place in the job market, has a brood of kids – now the third generation, who feel more Western than ethnic… Unless… they happen to have a religion that demands they keep themselves apart and NOT integrate. Then it doesn’t matter how nice your are to them, or whatever programs you have to “help them integrate”. Nothing will make them integrate if they don’t want to. Like the old saying – you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink.

Beyond that, imagine that for some reason or other, my thinking in the paragraph above is wrong, and it is much harder to integrate than I could ever imagine for some group. Still we are talking about human beings here. Wouldn’t just about any sane human being from any culture on earth other than Islam be repelled at the violence celebrated by ISIS? Just as repelled as you or I? It is ridiculous to imagine they would have any more tendency than you or I to join ISIS. Now they may act out their frustrations in a multitude of different ways, but not by joining a group that practices such horrible violence in the name of a religion. Most probably turn to drugs and crime, perhaps.

This leads us to the final rebuttal. How come it is only Muslims that would consider joining ISIS??? Now at first glance, that question may seem as stupid as asking if the Pope is Catholic, but if you think about it for a minute, it becomes starkly clear that the problem is Islam, not the experience of being an immigrant.

I am hoping some lawyers out there can find the source and use it to start suing these countries for all the death and mayam caused by islam

wayne
6 months ago
The Pass this on to the right people. check it for yourselves. Recently (admittedly I haven’t nailed the date) the Muslims secretly changed Sharia law. Source ‘Reliance of the traveler’ revised edition. They have abrogated irreversibly Christianity & Judaism to Infidel status. Furthermore any cleric/believer that disagrees is apostasised & killed. Discussion and consideration on the matter are equally forbidden with the same punishment. Making it irreversible. It goes on to OBLIGATE the killing of all non Muslims. Quote “obligatory to obey. U lawful to disobey.”
It explains that this was written in English “so there can be no misunderstanding”. And the whole thing is underscored with this to show its importance. “On this matter there is no disagreement amongst Islamic scholars”. O that 56 Islamic countries & Palestine signed up to it. I have questioned many Muslims on this subject and they have all refused discussion and employed subject.change strategy.
With millions of young military aged Muslims pouring into the EU from countries we have recently destroyed I would suggest this is taken extremely i

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wayne Anton
6 months ago
This isn’t second hand, this is research I have done. “It’s called reading”

Secondly this is not in the Koran it is in the “Reliance of the traveler revised edition” the de facto Manual for Sharia LAW. As for interpretations it makes it completely understandable and goes on to explain that it was written in english “so there can be no misunderstanding”. It states any cleric who disagrees is apostasised and will be killed.

Quote:- Page 846 “reliance of the traveler” revised edition

“Previously revealed religions were valid in their own eras as is attested to many verses of the Holy Koran, but were abrogated by the universal message of Islam, as is equally attested to by many verses of the Koran. Both points are worthy of attention by English-speaking Muslims, who are occasionally exposed to erroneous theories advanced by some teachers and Koran translators affirming their religion’s validity but denying or not mentioning their abrogation, or it is unbelief (kufr) to hold the remnant cults now bearing the names of formerly valid religions, such as “Christianity” and “Judaism,” are acceptable to Allah Most High after He was sent the final Messenger. This is a matter over which there is no disagreement among Islamic scholars.”

Regarding the last line “This is a matter over which there is no disagreement among Islamic scholars.to explain it’s importance”

Quote:- Page 23 “reliance of the traveler” revised edition

When the four integrals of consensus exist the ruling agreed upon is an authoritative part of Sacred Law that is obligatory to obey and not lawful to disobey. Nor can Mujtahids of a succeeding era make the thing an object of new ijtihad, because the ruling on it, verified by Scholarly consensus, is an absolute ruling which does not admit of being contravened or annulled.”

Notes
Page 846 is has a blue underscore at the bottom which cannot be found on any other pages??? Can be found in every revised edition from multiple sources

Ijtihad (Arabic: اجتهاد ijtihād, “diligence”) is an Islamic legal term that means “independent reasoning” or “the utmost effort an individual can put forth in an activity.”

A mujtahid (Arabic: مجتهد‎, “diligent”) is an individual who is qualified to exercise ijtihad in the evaluation of Islamic

First sighting on web for me

I Islam as a whole 56 countries & Palestine made it obligatory to kill all non Muslims in sharia law made in 1884. Since then the Muslim world and the left have been at war with us. Source: Book of Islamic law “Reliance of the traveler revised edition” pages 846 & 34 Y

Seems like there could be a lot of money made being a psychiatrist to the liberal political class. They certainly need it.

I wonder if Piketty would agree that WWII could have been settled if the Jews just made an effort to treat the Germans better? And things would have been much better if the U.S. just treated Japan nicer after Pearl Harbor.

Also, how about serial killers? Would that stop too if we they were treated better?

Will heaven appear on earth if everyone is declared a Special Snowflake?

The wretches who govern the UK & Europe give the mohammedans just about all
they demand.
In the UK even their own courts & taxpayer funded schools.
They should not be here in the first place.
We can give no more, unless we worship their heathen god & become a caliphate.
Everything is in place for civil war, as the study of history shows.
They took Constantinople by force & tried again at Vienna.
Unless they are made to feel very unwelcome in the West, they will conquer us by
simple demographics.
The only Europeans who have large families tend to be underclass/benefits dependents.
I wouldn’t count on them defending civilisation from the invaders.
In a couple of generations there will not be enough decent & healthy non muslims
to resist the invaders.
The Left claims to hate colonialism.
But only when practiced by Europeans.

“In other words, people don’t join the Islamic State because their countries are poor or in crisis or because bad economic conditions increase the pressure on outsider groups. They join when a wealthy society fails to integrate them so that they could share in the wealth.”

Beside the fact that it is for the most part up to the guest, out of gratitude and consideration, to comport themselves to their hosts’ society and not the other way around, you can’t “integrate” what doesn’t want to be integrated. Infidel proponents of secular law and culture are the vilest of all creatures, according to Islamic doctrine, and Muslims are the best; why would they want to integrate into what they consider vile? Indeed, they don’t want to integrate or live alongside it, they want to overrule it.

Also, how is the “wealth” not being shared when many Muslims come over to the West and immediately get on welfare without having paid into the system, and most of the time stay on indefinitely of their own accord.

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