The pair show up in multiple photos of the finish line. They carry large bags. They are dark-skinned. This was enough for internet sleuths to peg them as suspicious.

No, it's the fact that they were standing literally over the spot where the bomb exploded, and it clearly appears from one of the photographs that one of them ditched a bag there before they left. That's why they were pegged as suspicious. Another white guy close by was also pegged as suspicious. Nothing to do with color.

And that was apparently enough for the Post to run with its front-page story today, claiming investigators are circulating photos of the two.

Except that this picture, along with one from another angle, ran on CBS, MSNBC, CNN, FOX and other news channels saying that the police was looking into those two and to come forward if they had any information/recollection of seeing them there.

But maybe there was a reason for them to be at the marathon, wearing track jackets and carrying bags: they're runners.

If they are really runners and the FBI clears them, that's absolutely fantastic for them, there will be an announcement by the FBI that they are in fact not suspects or persons of interests (when I went to bed last night they still were) and we'll all move on!

Today on CBS This Morning, John Miller specifically said these two are not the suspects the FBI is seeking. This Boston Globe story sheds more light on the images authorities are using to track down the suspects, and their description makes clear it's not a high schooler and his friend

Case closed, then! They certainly considered them suspicious before, but now they have been cleared, so awesome for them.

No one said in the first place that they were definitely 100% the guilty parties, it just seemed that based on where the explosion happened and the fact that one of them appeared to be ditching a bag exactly where the explosion happened that they were suspicious. The FBI thought so too, then cleared them. Yay!

How did these two end up with their brown faces splashed all over the world? Do we even need to ask?

Apparently we need to, because you seem to think it was based in racism: it was not. It was based on where they were and what they were doing and the fact they appeared to be leaving a bag exactly at the spot where the explosion happened.

Another of the suspects identified by Reddit looks like he's a white male in his 50s. Once again, this has nothing to do with color, race or religion, only with suspicious behavior, standing very near to where the bombs went off, and carrying bags.

It's the NY Post. They are sooooo wanting this to be another 9/11. They didn't report on the white dude that's all over Reddit. Just these two. Because it fits their narrative. I hope it's a white dude. Sikhs, Latinos and other not-quite-blacks will be beat up in the street like after 9/11. Hell, even Israelis were shouted at here in NYC.

Fellas, please. I'm SURE we can all agree that the New York Post had only the most noble of intentions and was only putting their picture on the cover as a community service to help aid the investigation. This is one of the great roles the press plays in getting information out there that helps everyone.

PC LOAD LETTER:It's the NY Post. They are sooooo wanting this to be another 9/11. They didn't report on the white dude that's all over Reddit. Just these two. Because it fits their narrative.

I wasn't addressing the New York Post, I was addressing why these guys were pointed out in the first place. As far as the New York Post printing them on the first page, they were the only two that the FBI circulated the picture of yesterday night on news channels as well, so it's not exactly that they'd be on the first page this morning, even though the FBI apparently moved their status from 'suspicious person of interest' to 'cleared'.

PC LOAD LETTER:I hope it's a white dude. Sikhs, Latinos and other not-quite-blacks will be beat up in the street like after 9/11. Hell, even Israelis were shouted at here in NYC.

This is bullshiat, as far as I can remember you had a huge total of two violent attacks on minorities in the aftermath of 9/11. Stop acting like white people are just itching for a reason to conduct public lynchings, that's pretty racist in itself.

JerseyTim:Fellas, please. I'm SURE we can all agree that the New York Post had only the most noble of intentions and was only putting their picture on the cover as a community service to help aid the investigation. This is one of the great roles the press plays in getting information out there that helps everyone.

There is no excuse for running with the 12 dead thing, As far as those two being on the first page? By the time they went to print yesterday, the FBI had been circulating their picture saying they were person of interest, and we'd seen them plastered all over the news networks. The denials that they are not in fact suspects only came this morning on CBS.

You can speculate all you want that these guys being brown made them extra happy, but I'm fairly sure that if the FBI had been circulating a picture of two white guys saying they were persons of interest, that they would have printed that picture instead.

Tatsuma:what_now: Hey Tats, can you maybe stop rubbing yourself with glee while speculating that Muslims set off a bomb in my city based on horseshiat from the NY Post?

Thanks.

Can you drop implications of racism based on nothing? Oh and glee about this? I like you but you're skating a thin line here.

Ever since this happened, people have been all "Bloop blippity blip it was clearly done by someone who's ideology I don't like so take that libs/cons" and its disgusting. And now 4chan thinks it's the FBI, CNN thinks it's reputable, and you're all "I'm just asking question".

Stop it. Whoever did this, for whatever twisted farking reason, will get caught. They will get caught, they will whimper and cry because unlike Al Quieda they do not WANT to get caught, and I will laugh at their tears and we can all talk about how they did this because of Mohammad/Glen Beck/Obama/Aliens/lizard people.

Statements from the investigators, and the fact that they aren't carrying bags that are similar to the ones recovered from the bombing.

Tatsuma:The pair show up in multiple photos of the finish line. They carry large bags. They are dark-skinned. This was enough for internet sleuths to peg them as suspicious.

No, it's the fact that they were standing literally over the spot where the bomb exploded, and it clearly appears from one of the photographs that one of them ditched a bag there before they left. That's why they were pegged as suspicious. Another white guy close by was also pegged as suspicious. Nothing to do with color.

So were dozens of other people, all of which you can see in the photo that singled them out.

Tatsuma:And that was apparently enough for the Post to run with its front-page story today, claiming investigators are circulating photos of the two.

Except that this picture, along with one from another angle, ran on CBS, MSNBC, CNN, FOX and other news channels saying that the police was looking into those two and to come forward if they had any information/recollection of seeing them there.

The Police and FBI have not released any official pictures of the suspects they are looking for.

Tatsuma:But maybe there was a reason for them to be at the marathon, wearing track jackets and carrying bags: they're runners.

If they are really runners and the FBI clears them, that's absolutely fantastic for them, there will be an announcement by the FBI that they are in fact not suspects or persons of interests (when I went to bed last night they still were) and we'll all move on!

Where did the FBI claim these two were suspects or persons of interest? And do you think people will really move on considering after the NY Post called these guys out as practically the suspects themselves? Did you forget what happened to Richard Jewell?

Tatsuma:Today on CBS This Morning, John Miller specifically said these two are not the suspects the FBI is seeking. This Boston Globe story sheds more light on the images authorities are using to track down the suspects, and their description makes clear it's not a high schooler and his friend

Case closed, then! They certainly considered them suspicious before, but now they have been cleared, so awesome for them.

Where did the authorities say they considered them suspects, considering that the FBI and Police have not released any pictures of suspects?

Tatsuma:By the time they went to print yesterday, the FBI had been circulating their picture saying they were person of interest, and we'd seen them plastered all over the news networks.

I think it's inappropriate for the Post to put these two on the cover with a large print "BAG MEN" headline given their status as only "persons of interest" who authorities wanted to talk to. The Post made an implied leap from person of interest to suspect. I find that journalistically unethical.

Tatsuma:No, it's the fact that they were standing literally over the spot where the bomb exploded, and it clearly appears from one of the photographs that one of them ditched a bag there before they left. That's why they were pegged as suspicious. Another white guy close by was also pegged as suspicious. Nothing to do with color.

I said 'violent attacks' in the aftermath of 9/11 (meaning immediately following it, and in relation to it). That link goes all the way to 2011, and the vast majority of these items (as bad as they all are!) are not related to what I was talking about.

Three men were shot, and another three were assaulted for sure in the two months after 9/11 (and a smattering of other types of hate crimes)

Is it a bad thing? No it's not. Is it disgusting? No, of course it's not. Is it abominable? Nope.

What? Surprised I'd say this?

Bad thing doesn't even come close to cover it. Disgusting? Nowhere near strong enough. Abominable? Not even in the same ballpark. I can't think of any words that carry the proper magnitude to describe just how evil these acts were. However, there are more than 310 million Americans. Those who came out and lashed out at minorities in any form after 9/11? Not even a hundred. While the rest of America stood in brotherhood with Americans who are Muslims, and Americans who are of Arab descent.

These numbers are incredibly small and something we should be proud of, actually. The vast vast vast overwhelming majority of Americans realized that even though 9/11 was carried by fanatic Islamic extremists, Muslims in America were American and in no way were either complicit or responsible for this.

I also have faith that, whomever is responsible for this, America will once again stand united and proud and reject hatred for whatever group the attackers belonged to, whether it's Muslims, or Xians, Whites or Brown, Buddhists or Australians.

James!:Reddit already stalked these two guys into the ground based on their junior FBI bullshiat. They happen to be runners at a marathon. So very suspicious.

It was mostly 4chan, not reddit. Although the 4chan stuff showed up on Reddit.

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And for fark's sake, Tatsuma, stop defending the NY Post. We all know it's a shiat filled rag. There is simply no excuse for the Post to run that on the front page, except to play off of people's irrational fears so they can sell more papers.

what_now:Ever since this happened, people have been all "Bloop blippity blip it was clearly done by someone who's ideology I don't like so take that libs/cons" and its disgusting. And now 4chan thinks it's the FBI, CNN thinks it's reputable, and you're all "I'm just asking question".

What? I'm not 'just asking questions', In fact if you go back to yesterday's thread, the one reason I was interested in those two was not whether or not they were the guys who did it, I was more interested in the fact that it seemed at the time that crowd-sourcing had possibly identified strong suspects hours before the FBI named them (and the FBI did say they were suspects). Now that they have been cleared, well thank G-d, let's move on and catch the real guys who did it.

I agree 100%. My contention with this stupid blog post (urgh) was that he was blaming the fact those two were identified due to racism rather than the fact that the FBI themselves came out and said they were suspect and that the New York Post was somehow the only guys publishing a picture of them when they are not, and their pictures had been all over the news. This shiat article sounded more like a hit piece against the Post (and there are plenty of reasons for that) yet manipulated the facts to make the narrative fit his hatred of it rather than attacking it for good reasons (like running with the 12 dead thing)

JerseyTim:I think it's inappropriate for the Post to put these two on the cover with a large print "BAG MEN" headline given their status as only "persons of interest" who authorities wanted to talk to. The Post made an implied leap from person of interest to suspect. I find that journalistically unethical.

See, THAT is another valid attack against the Post, and something worth attacking not just the Post but the whole MSM in America, as they all ran with them as suspects rather than persons of interests, and seem to think both of these things are interchangeable (to be fair, they sometimes are, but not 100% as we can see here)

I said 'violent attacks' in the aftermath of 9/11 (meaning immediately following it, and in relation to it). That link goes all the way to 2011, and the vast majority of these items (as bad as they all are!) are not related to what I was talking about.

Three men were shot, and another three were assaulted for sure in the two months after 9/11 (and a smattering of other types of hate crimes)

Is it a bad thing? No it's not. Is it disgusting? No, of course it's not. Is it abominable? Nope.

What? Surprised I'd say this?

Bad thing doesn't even come close to cover it. Disgusting? Nowhere near strong enough. Abominable? Not even in the same ballpark. I can't think of any words that carry the proper magnitude to describe just how evil these acts were. However, there are more than 310 million Americans. Those who came out and lashed out at minorities in any form after 9/11? Not even a hundred. While the rest of America stood in brotherhood with Americans who are Muslims, and Americans who are of Arab descent.

These numbers are incredibly small and something we should be proud of, actually. The vast vast vast overwhelming majority of Americans realized that even though 9/11 was carried by fanatic Islamic extremists, Muslims in America were American and in no way were either complicit or responsible for this.

I also have faith that, whomever is responsible for this, America will once again stand united and proud and reject hatred for whatever group the attackers belonged to, whether it's Muslims, or Xians, Whites or Brown, Buddhists or Australians.

(Except for the Irish.)

I wish there was an emoticon for rolling my eyes and making a jerk off motion. You said TWO and you were wrong.

Bottom line blasting that photo on the front page was yellow journalism of the lowest kind. It's racebaiting based on hearsay and internet mob justice.

Tatsuma:I said 'violent attacks' in the aftermath of 9/11 (meaning immediately following it, and in relation to it). That link goes all the way to 2011, and the vast majority of these items (as bad as they all are!) are not related to what I was talking about.

Three men were shot, and another three were assaulted for sure in the two months after 9/11 (and a smattering of other types of hate crimes)

Speaker2Animals:Right, no one except the editors of the NY Post who put their pictures on the front page with screaming f*cking headlines all but calling them guilty.

Not just the NY Post, but CBS, MSNBC, FOX, CNN, etc... Every news outlet were running pictures of those guys yesterday saying they were suspects and that the FBI was looking for them and pretty much saying they were the guys responsible.

The whole MSM should be attacked for this, not one of many papers to run this as front page material.

The pair show up in multiple photos of the finish line. They carry large bags. They are dark-skinned. This was enough for internet sleuths to peg them as suspicious.

No, it's the fact that they were standing literally over the spot where the bomb exploded, and it clearly appears from one of the photographs that one of them ditched a bag there before they left. That's why they were pegged as suspicious. Another white guy close by was also pegged as suspicious. Nothing to do with color.

And that was apparently enough for the Post to run with its front-page story today, claiming investigators are circulating photos of the two.

Except that this picture, along with one from another angle, ran on CBS, MSNBC, CNN, FOX and other news channels saying that the police was looking into those two and to come forward if they had any information/recollection of seeing them there.

But maybe there was a reason for them to be at the marathon, wearing track jackets and carrying bags: they're runners.

If they are really runners and the FBI clears them, that's absolutely fantastic for them, there will be an announcement by the FBI that they are in fact not suspects or persons of interests (when I went to bed last night they still were) and we'll all move on!

Today on CBS This Morning, John Miller specifically said these two are not the suspects the FBI is seeking. This Boston Globe story sheds more light on the images authorities are using to track down the suspects, and their description makes clear it's not a high schooler and his friend

Case closed, then! They certainly considered them suspicious before, but now they have been cleared, so awesome for them.

No one said in the first place that they were definitely 100% the guilty parties, it just seemed that based on where the explosion happened and the fact that one of them appeared to be ditching a bag exactly where the explosion happened that they were ...

I said 'violent attacks' in the aftermath of 9/11 (meaning immediately following it, and in relation to it). That link goes all the way to 2011, and the vast majority of these items (as bad as they all are!) are not related to what I was talking about.

Three men were shot, and another three were assaulted for sure in the two months after 9/11 (and a smattering of other types of hate crimes)

Is it a bad thing? No it's not. Is it disgusting? No, of course it's not. Is it abominable? Nope.

What? Surprised I'd say this?

Bad thing doesn't even come close to cover it. Disgusting? Nowhere near strong enough. Abominable? Not even in the same ballpark. I can't think of any words that carry the proper magnitude to describe just how evil these acts were. However, there are more than 310 million Americans. Those who came out and lashed out at minorities in any form after 9/11? Not even a hundred. While the rest of America stood in brotherhood with Americans who are Muslims, and Americans who are of Arab descent.

These numbers are incredibly small and something we should be proud of, actually. The vast vast vast overwhelming majority of Americans realized that even though 9/11 was carried by fanatic Islamic extremists, Muslims in America were American and in no way were either complicit or responsible for this.

I also have faith that, whomever is responsible for this, America will once again stand united and proud and reject hatred for whatever group the attackers belonged to, whether it's Muslims, or Xians, Whites or Brown, Buddhists or Australians.

(Except for the Irish.)

Can you be more full of crap that you already are? First you say 2 incidents. Then when you are shown that it's way way more than that you lie again. I count 11 incidents of actual violence in the 2 months after 9/11 in that link, unless you don't count firebombing convenience stores as violent incidents. I guess it doesn't count if someone shoots at you and misses? It's evidently not violence if you chase someone with a car but they get away? You've certainly got a funny way of categorizing "violent" incidents!

Tatsuma:Speaker2Animals: Right, no one except the editors of the NY Post who put their pictures on the front page with screaming f*cking headlines all but calling them guilty.

Not just the NY Post, but CBS, MSNBC, FOX, CNN, etc... Every news outlet were running pictures of those guys yesterday saying they were suspects and that the FBI was looking for them and pretty much saying they were the guys responsible.

The whole MSM should be attacked for this, not one of many papers to run this as front page material.

I am going to copypasta this from a few years ago: I think we found our suspect

So, several weeks ago, I'm on the T coming back from a little Christmas shopping. It's the middle of a bright, unseasonably warm, sunny day. A man gets on holding the Boston Herald. He's a beefy looking white man, mid fifties probably, florid in complexion, silly mustache. He gives me a once over; I read my book.

Then, two Muslim ladies get on. They are in jeans, sweaters and hijabs*. They are probably mid to late twenties. One is heavily pregnant, the other has a baby carriage with a small child inside. They get on, take some seats and start conversing softly- in English.

The Herald reader looks up in alarm and stares at them with for a while, clutching his newspaper to his chest like a binky. They get off at MIT where, either they or their husbands- or both- are probably grad students or post docs.

The Herald reader scoots over to me, and says "Well, I'm glad THAT'S over". I'm not sure what scared him more, two petite women, or the thought that the baby in the carriage would laugh at him for reading the Boston Herald.

*a Hijab is a head scarf. It's sort of what your grandmother wore to keep her hair did. It is not a bomb vest.

Charles Stross has the right idea. Ignore the news for now. Seriously, their only purpose in pulling such shiat is to get you to look at their ads.

Wait until calmer, more rational heads have actually investigated the crime, issued a report, and dealt with whoever's involved. This ghoulish race to see who can spread the most information the fastest has to stop.

Snuffybud:Can you be more full of crap that you already are? First you say 2 incidents. Then when you are shown that it's way way more than that you lie again. I count 11 incidents of actual violence in the 2 months after 9/11 in that link, unless you don't count firebombing convenience stores as violent incidents. I guess it doesn't count if someone shoots at you and misses? It's evidently not violence if you chase someone with a car but they get away? You've certainly got a funny way of categorizing "violent" incidents!

He said 'people going down in the streets and beating up sikhs, latinos, etc..', that's what the incidents were referring to, people who committed physical assaults/murder so no I did not count firebombing.