tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-169667030750701808.post3750171894357053672..comments2017-08-10T04:01:41.017-07:00Comments on THIS IS A DREAM: Making Memories: Creating a Major PAO systemJoel Tagerthttps://plus.google.com/115028534326462478226noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-169667030750701808.post-55986631388805542682017-05-30T08:36:04.231-07:002017-05-30T08:36:04.231-07:00Actually the TED talk with Joshua Foer sparked my ...Actually the TED talk with Joshua Foer sparked my interest. I have no interest in memory sports as such either but I kind of naturally stumbled from a Memory Palace to the Major System and PAO.<br /><br />Coming to think of it, I could really use a better technique for remembering names. Remembering people&#39;s names is one of those things that stuck with me when reading &quot;How to win friends and influence people&quot;.<br />You don&#39;t happen to have a similar resource I could learn from for that do you? ;)<br />Lieven Keersmaekershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13997741764461339515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-169667030750701808.post-80060028130520976562017-05-29T16:48:04.839-07:002017-05-29T16:48:04.839-07:00Well, the main advantage of the system above is th...Well, the main advantage of the system above is that it doesn&#39;t really require a lot of practice to be able to use it. It works out of the box, so to speak, because every combination is based on the Major system. It&#39;s more a question of familiarity with what word options are available for each pair of digits. Other systems - for instance, PAO systems in which the images are arbitrarily associated with the digits - require a great deal of practice, without which they&#39;re nearly useless. <br /><br />As for continuing to use it, I never had much interest in memory sports and the like, and outside of such specialized uses, I don&#39;t have much need to memorize long strings of digits. It was more of an experiment and a resource for people creating similar systems. I still use it occasionally to memorize phone numbers and the like, but these days I&#39;m more interested in language learning, because it&#39;s far more useful in everyday life. <br /><br />It may also depend on your goals. If you actually want to compete in memory sports, I think whatever system you use will require a lot of time and practice. If you just want to impress your friends, then some combination of the Major system and the journey method will work just fine. <br />Joel Tagerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18013988972911649955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-169667030750701808.post-24381665968513393092017-05-29T04:31:44.111-07:002017-05-29T04:31:44.111-07:00I got tripped up by the wiki at http://artofmemory...I got tripped up by the wiki at http://artofmemory.com/wiki/Person-Action-Object_(PAO)_System. The section about &quot;How to Create a PAO Mnemonic System&quot; mentions the Major System as the most common method for generating images but your list is actually the first one I found using the Major System.<br /><br />I&#39;m still dabling on what system I&#39;m going to use. I would hate to spend a lot of time trying to learn system A only to discover I should have learned system B.<br /><br />Can I ask if you are still using your Major PAO system?Lieven Keersmaekershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13997741764461339515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-169667030750701808.post-36786841871477695042016-04-12T19:33:01.647-07:002016-04-12T19:33:01.647-07:00I use first two letters of person name rest are ig...I use first two letters of person name rest are ignored. It is easyamjad khanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15019617232073206043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-169667030750701808.post-20056470284842998772016-04-12T19:31:34.892-07:002016-04-12T19:31:34.892-07:00I use first two letters of person name rest are ig...I use first two letters of person name rest are ignored. It is easyamjad khanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15019617232073206043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-169667030750701808.post-19839553630204909402016-03-31T11:11:33.263-07:002016-03-31T11:11:33.263-07:00I agree sir....I agree sir....Afolabi Ojomohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01041756619040171980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-169667030750701808.post-81770595829164690142016-02-09T22:46:53.517-08:002016-02-09T22:46:53.517-08:00THIS METHOD IS SO HELPFUL FOR ME! INFACT, I NOW JU...THIS METHOD IS SO HELPFUL FOR ME! INFACT, I NOW JUST USE P.O AND QUITE HAPPY WITH IT. I THINK WHEN I CAN MASTER P.O THEN I CAN EASILY ADD Action FOR IT. IS THERE ANYONE HAVE THE SAME IDEA WITH ME?<br />quat do vanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08140517755971513115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-169667030750701808.post-71667046917685668352014-10-10T22:39:11.421-07:002014-10-10T22:39:11.421-07:00Gosh!!! been searching the net for weeks for these...Gosh!!! been searching the net for weeks for these!!! i have been having issues coming up with images for about 7 paired numbers...Tnx and God blessAfolabi Ojomohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01041756619040171980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-169667030750701808.post-25281705715516242272014-09-24T12:58:10.592-07:002014-09-24T12:58:10.592-07:00I found this very helpful, Thank you!
I have Goku...I found this very helpful, Thank you!<br /><br />I have Goku for 77.<br /><br />Seeking Justicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17605543905247923899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-169667030750701808.post-13025766609776038072014-07-10T09:55:41.101-07:002014-07-10T09:55:41.101-07:00What do you think know about the Action-Unclear-Im...What do you think know about the Action-Unclear-Imagination Problem? <br /><br />Do you think you could make those action clear enough that it beats a PO system in efficiency?<br /><br />Im still struggling to decide which one I should create. I dont wanna participate in compition etc. it should only be useful in daily live. (efficency &gt; datavolume)Chris serhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14317424311705158966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-169667030750701808.post-75265042371565171462014-01-12T07:44:24.681-08:002014-01-12T07:44:24.681-08:00Made a number of edits today to reflect further pr...Made a number of edits today to reflect further practice with the system. By and large, I changed them either because I was having problems connecting the word with the sound, or because the image was too unclear. You may note that some of these move the system further from a purely phonetic system, but I think the ease of memorization more than makes up for it. Edits include:<br /><br />05: &quot;Sulu&quot; to &quot;Seal&quot;<br />34: &quot;mayor&quot; to &quot;Mary&quot;<br />43: &quot;rimming&quot; to &quot;ramming&quot;<br />59: &quot;Lapp&quot; to &quot;Leprechaun&quot;<br />60: &quot;juicing&quot; to &quot;chasing&quot;<br />72: &quot;queen&quot; to &quot;Ken&quot; and &quot;caning&quot; to &quot;canoeing&quot;<br />74: &quot;The Crow&quot; to &quot;Cory&quot;<br />75: &quot;killing&quot; to &quot;cooling&quot;<br />81: &quot;photo&quot; to &quot;video&quot;<br />83: &quot;foaming&quot; to &quot;fumigating&quot;<br />84: &quot;Fury&quot; to &quot;Pharaoh&quot; and &quot;frying&quot; to &quot;firing&quot;<br />86: &quot;Phish&quot; to &quot;Vishnu&quot;<br />89: &quot;fob&quot; to &quot;viper&quot;<br />90: &quot;the Boss&quot; to &quot;Bozo&quot;<br />92: &quot;Obi-Wan&quot; to &quot;Ben&quot;<br />95: &quot;blowing&quot; to &quot;bowling&quot;<br /><br />The Google Docs printable document has likewise been updated.Joel Tagerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18013988972911649955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-169667030750701808.post-8891703358650305852014-01-05T09:47:12.295-08:002014-01-05T09:47:12.295-08:00You make some great points. I found much the same ...You make some great points. I found much the same true of phone numbers, that we&#39;re so conditioned to hearing them in a combination of 3 digits+3 digits+4 digits that it&#39;s a little hard to break that up into five two-digit combinations, at least at the speed of the spoken word. Even then, the 10 digits of a phone number are 2 short of the 12-digit combinations natural to a PAO system. I solved this problem by making the first Person in the image the actual person whose number I&#39;m trying to remember. <br /><br />Your point about a lot of Actions being less concrete is also a good one, especially since I intend to use this system (or some version of it) as the basis for a Wardrobe system. One list of Persons and another of Objects can both serve as bases for Wardrobes, but Actions...? Not so much.<br /><br />Thanks for the input!Joel Tagerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18013988972911649955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-169667030750701808.post-48108602873976686952014-01-04T08:27:35.164-08:002014-01-04T08:27:35.164-08:00Joel,
Great work, thanks for sharing! I too creat...Joel,<br /><br />Great work, thanks for sharing! I too created a Major PAO system for the same reasons you describe. Some people find it easy to associate a P, A, and O... and for others (like you or me) it&#39;s much easier to associate to a Major code.<br /><br />I wanted to use mnemonics for every day activities... not to compete in competitions. While MPAO definitely works, I find it to be a bit slow in the early days.... simply because you are holding 1-2 images in your mind while encoding or decoding a 3rd.<br /><br />Memorizing credit cards, for example. I have one card memorized using 6+6+4 (PAO+PAO+PO+PO) which is the 12 digits of the card, the expiration date, and the secret code on the back. It&#39;s OK, but my brain wants to naturally break this up into groups of 4. <br /><br />Anyways, that got me thinking... maybe it&#39;s better (for just everyday use) to drop the A and just use a PO system. Another nice advantage of that is Ps and Os are very concrete. As tend to be more intangible and therefore require a bit more brain exertion. <br /><br />Anyway, if someone invests in a PAO system and find the same to be true for them, no harm done. Just stop using the A!Jeff Watershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01180111157811757031noreply@blogger.com