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Rays Send Jackson to Motown for Young Outfielder Joyce

To say that this trade took me by surprise would be a total understatement. I did expect to see Rays number 4 starter, Edwin Jackson maybe traded closer to the reporting date, but sometime baseball can sneak up and trick you sometimes. To say I will miss chatting with Edwin on the sidelines down by the Bullpen Cafe on Sundays.

When he first got traded to the Rays I made sure to chat with him while he was in his street clothes about this team and it might be the best thing to happen to your career to come here. He has grown alot as a pitcher, and I wish him nothing but the best in Detroit. And you know you better come over and shake my hand during Spring Training dude.

But what really amazed me was the sly and calculated measures that Rays General Manager Andrew Friedman pulled off this caper. No one is baseball can say they saw this one coming at all. What Friedman did was trade away a sure thing starting pitcher, who is under arbitration this season, for a young defensive right-fielder we will control for 6 years.

Holy Cow! You mean we actually traded for a guy who will be fighting for a roster spot this spring and if he still needs some seasoning, we can send him to Durham without recourse. That is simply amazing and well outside the usual Rays thinking of the past. It is a pretty calculated mis-match that we got a guy who will only get better, while giving up the same in Jackson.

The only problem is, Jackson would hate to be the long reliever in the Bullpen and the trade was a blessing for him. Considering how far Edwin Jackson has come in 2008, you have to admit, the Rays could have asked for more and been well within their rights. But the trade answered questions and provides key answers to situations that would be difficult to achieve in March or April of 2009.

By doing this trade now, it actually benefited both teams even before decisions are being made for 2009. Jackson will move into the Tigers’ rotation with a good spring and will continue to grow as a starter in this league. People forget he posted 14 wins this season, which was a personal high for him, plus he had some of the best command of the season on his pitches late in the year.

The bad thing for Jackson is that the Tigers ex-Pitching Coach was Chuck Hernandez, who worked alot with Jackson when he was here with the Rays. Jackson has been developing and inproving on his off-speed pitches and we will see him again early in 2009 when the two teams meet on March 26th in Lakeland during Spring Training. It will be the only time these two teams meet in the spring this season.

On the other side, we get a player who is also a Tampa-born and raised player. He attended Armwood High, just outside of Tampa and then moved over to Florida Southern University in Lakeland for college. Joyce was selected by the Tigers in the 12th round of the 2005 Amateur Draft. Following the 2007 season, he was selected as the 7th best prospect in the Detroit farm system.

In 6 games against the Tampa Bay Rays this season, Joyce played left-field and went 3-18 against the team during late season series as the Trop and at Comerica Park. He batted .167 against the Rays, with a .286 On-Base Percentage. He played extremely confident outfield for the Tigers, and actuallyt gunned down Jonny Gomes at second base in the last game of the season in Detroit.

For the year, Joyce batted .252, with 16 doubles and 12 home runs and 33 RBI’s in only 92 games. Joyce ended up 6th among AL rookie with 12 homers. He hit a career best 2 homers in a game against Texas on August 19th in Arlington, Texas. He had a career high 4 hits on July 3rd against the Mariners at Safeco Field. Also of note, he drove in a career high 5 RBI’s on July 21st against the Royals in Kansas City.

On paper this trade looks like one done to actually minimize the confusion and the stress in the spring of having to find a destination for a starter to make a spot for rookie sensation David Price. With Jackson now out of the mix for a spot, that will leave Jeff Niemann, Andy Sonnanstine, Wade Davis, Mitch Talbot and Jason Hammel to fight for the 5th rotation position.

But the true measure of this trade is in the advantage the Rays now have with a young and improving outfielder under their control for 6 more seasons. This will give them stability and confidence to maybe evn use Gabe Gross as trade bait to get a right-hand bat for rightfield before the reporting date. It is a win-win for both the players and the team for a change. Both get a change of scenery and a chance to fight for a top spot right out of spring.

I will raise my bottle to you Edwin this weekend, and hope that you find success and happiness in Motown. And I will be seeing you on the visitors’ side when the Tigers visit the Trop on September 4-6th, 2009. You can count on it!!

6 Comments

I agree with your points, the Tigers needed starting pitching and the Rays needed a right fielder. Edwin Jackson might be in the Tigers bullpen since only Justin Verlander, Armando Galarraga, and if healthly Jeremy Bonderman have guardn rotation spots, with Nate Robertson, Dontrelle Willis, and Zack Miner are fighting for rotation spots, has of now.

Hey again, Congrats on the Numero Uno slot on the Top 100. That is fantastic.
I think Jackson will surprise you in the Spring. Seriously here, the guy has been counted out everytime in Tampa Bay for the last 3 seasons and has just put up numbers. Some have not been pretty, but his pitches get better and better every year and the control is there with that fireball speed.

I see him as a number 5 pitcher that matched up well with other 5’s in the AL.

I hope i have not been too much of a pain for you in 2008. It has been a fantastic year in the stands and on the field for my team and myself. But it was MLBlogs.com that set me apart this year with recognition of somehting I have done for years……write.

It was my passion as a kid, and becuase of this forum, it is my love again. So it is I who should be thanking you and MLB for everyhting you do for fans like me.

I think Edwin Jackson will at least a solid starter, if not more. I was just saying there should be a lot of competiton for 2-3 spots in the rotation. Hopefully Rich Knapp helps Edwin Jackson continue to develop his pitches.

He will have a great year if he just adjusts his breaking pitches a bit. He is a pretty sraight curveball pitcher, and a 12-6 curve can get hit even out of that big park pretty easy.

I am glad he gets to go to a AL club so I can see him at least 1 series a year. It should be an interesting spring in Lakeland. I am going to have to go over there, or wait until they play at Clearwater to see him this Spring.

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