Dude stop embarrassing yourself , you're telling that everyone (include the OP) is wrong and that you're right ..... but you're the only one who don't understand what the OP intend to ask in first place.

It's being full retard to compare 2 boss from different tiers with the same ilvl.

PS: C'thun in 570+ilvl is a joke ! i don't understand why people took so long to kill him back then ! ! (sarcasm inside)

How in my embarrassing myself when I'm not the one who doesn't know how to make clear statements. The op said a vs b. he did not say a with this this and this vs b with this this and this.

How in my embarrassing myself when I'm not the one who doesn't know how to make clear statements. The op said a vs b. he did not say a with this this and this vs b with this this and this.

So how comes everyone understood what the OP said but not you ?
He did not have to say it in details because it's again common sense to compare 2 bosses from different tier with the same ilvl.
If we follow your logic the hardest boss will always be the last, and that's just wrong.

How in my embarrassing myself when I'm not the one who doesn't know how to make clear statements. The op said a vs b. he did not say a with this this and this vs b with this this and this.

It was very clearly implied. Not everything needs to be explained with absolute clarity regarding every detail, you're literally the only person here who has displayed such an ineptitude to understand a basic question.

Only an idiot from your guild would make the sweeping statement that the majority of people who have already killed heroic garrosh are bad.

My point is that Garrosh is significantly affected by item level because its mostly a gear check fight with maybe 2-3 points that require any amount of high level coordination. Skipping whirling corruptions/MCs/Desecrates makes a pretty noticeable difference. Our guild was 570 and we would still skip things that were seen in other videos of top guilds. It made the fight a lot easier and it's something you couldn't really pull off on Lei Shen pre-5.3 patch.

Only an idiot from your guild would make the sweeping statement that the majority of people who have already killed heroic garrosh are bad.

I think you did not read what he said.

He said that if you think Garrosh at 570+ ilvl is harder than Lei-Shen was at relevant gear levels, then you never left the '70s.

Volun-told - A supposedly optional event, award, assignment, or activity in which a person (or persons) are required to attend either by persons-in-charge nominating them or their peers expecting them to be there. The individual often has no say in the matter, and non-attendance in frowned upon.I am so tired of seeing terrible people, being admired, for being terrible people.

Lei Shen was super easy to pug because the only thing you had to pretty much survive was the 1st transition and then it was all good(assuming you disabled the chain lightning conduit). Garrosh is just a mess for pugs when Mind controls come in, and the adds from Empowered Whirlwind are pretty much the cause of all wipes...

How is the mechanically difficult fight easier to pug then the gear check fight.....

Lei Shen was harder in every way. The DPS check was just as tight if not tighter (before ilvl upgrades came out and people were doing it with 545 ilvl). The personal responsibility required ti survive the transitions were harder then anything someone has to do on Garrosh. If you used battle rezes before P3 it made P3 10x harder because you wouldnt be able to rez the people who died from static shock. It was always fun when a DK had to die and you had no rezes left...