Comments on: “He’s Got A Freaking Cannon”http://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/05/hes-got-a-freaking-cannon/
The most popular Buccaneers blog on earth. Edgy analysis, and 24/7 Bucs football news.Fri, 09 Dec 2016 13:18:35 +0000hourly1https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6.1By: canadian bucsfanhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/05/hes-got-a-freaking-cannon/#comment-3406694
Sat, 31 May 2014 11:27:59 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=114003#comment-3406694A few months ago Joe posted an article on how MG8 had low velocity on his throws at the scouting combine. It’s hard to believe that he has such a canon but no power behind his short throws? I still haven’t really see this canon last year. I saw him hit Underwood in stride twice on deep balls (Det, NO) and VJ once (Car). Other then that I saw VJ making a lot of good adjustments. I am rooting for him he hasn’t show enough yet.
]]>By: lurkerhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/05/hes-got-a-freaking-cannon/#comment-3406680
Sat, 31 May 2014 05:00:36 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=114003#comment-3406680a “canon” in practice, that wilts under pressure, to “party popper” in a game.
]]>By: Buc1987http://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/05/hes-got-a-freaking-cannon/#comment-3406431
Fri, 30 May 2014 17:38:10 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=114003#comment-3406431This offense is going to have plenty of toys for the kid Cannon to play with. Have fun out there Mikey. It’s a whole new ball game now kid. You’ll have weapons now. Enjoy your new toys Mikey. Have fun kid!
]]>By: Bryanhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/05/hes-got-a-freaking-cannon/#comment-3406430
Fri, 30 May 2014 17:37:27 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=114003#comment-3406430Joe(s) is/are just trying to torpedo Glennon. In a similar way Bubba the Love Sponge did to Dilfer. Suck it up Joe. He is here and is part of the team so we should actively support him until such a time when he is definitively proven to be ineffective. At this time we cannot say he is ineffective.

Joe seems not to like the fact that he is not a “playmaker” (i.e. able to make plays with his legs) like his dreamboat is. The “playmaker” has a better shot of making an immediate impact in this league due to being able to improvise while he learns the game. Pocket passers do not have that luxury. They need to know the intricacies of the game right away meaning they need to be developed. Glennon was thrown to the wolves, ill prepared and he did an admirable job given the circumstances. The circumstances being one of the worst locker room drama’s ever to unfold. Joe doesn’t like to recognize this fact. Neither does he like to ponder what effect this circus may have had on a rookie pocket passer’s development. To prove my point Joe likes to refer to the 13 games Glennon started as a rookie and compare that to the years and years of experience McCown has had and suggest that the 13 games with terrible coaching while playing in an awful circus environment is more than enough time to develop and is even a better opportunity than McCown has had with all of his years of experience. “For crying out loud,” right Joe!

It makes perfect sense given the environment last year to bring in a guy like McCown to set the example. Not necessarily in performance but the standard of how to QB a team in this league professionally. An example Glennon did not have last year and given the circus it is very smart on L & L’s part. When Schiano got here he had to discipline Rah’s team. Now Lovie needs to loosen a tight team that had been through too much drama.

I would love to have a QB who is both a playmaker and pocket passer. However, I am going to be fair and say there are some pretty good pocket passers in this league, right? Usually the best ones are and most had ample time to develop if their father was not a HOF QB. Does Joe(s) have an issue with the way Bellicheat develops QB’s. I think not. How would Bellicheat develop Glennon? I cannot say for sure but it isn’t too hard to extrapolate.

]]>By: Buc1987http://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/05/hes-got-a-freaking-cannon/#comment-3406421
Fri, 30 May 2014 17:26:21 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=114003#comment-3406421ODB..yes there was always hope. Freeman did flash potential more than once. Even Couch Fan would have to atleast admit that. I think that’s what the number 1 problem some Buc fans have with Mike when they compare Glennon’s non flashes to Freeman’s flashes of potential. I don’t think Glennon flashed any “potential” or atleast not as much as the roller coaster Freeman did.

So that’s where I’m at with these anti Glennon folks. To them Freeman showed flashes of “potential” and Glennon showed none. Freeman never took the Bucs anywhere with his “potential” and since Glennon showed no “potential”, surely Glennon won’t them anywhere if Freeman couldn’t.

Do you think I’m on to something? There are fans that saw those flashes of potential and hoped for great things from Freeman. Some even expected it to happen, like me. I’m just willing to overlook all that for different reasons than just “potential”. Many different reasons that have been stated over and over again on this site. I’m not going to re-outline them again either. This is a lot of typing for me right now.

I am now part of the MGM. McCown had better step up and play his veteran ass off or it’s bring in Napolean and let’s hope he plays like dynamite. Then we can smear it all over many peoples faces. Radio hosts as well.

FB Jorvorskie Lane half brother is TE Jermichael Finley. They also played with each other growing up, and also were on the same AAU basketball team during their teen years. Makes you wonder who ‘mystery team’ – that didn’t want to be mentioned-for a private workouts is.

]]>By: John McKillophttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/05/hes-got-a-freaking-cannon/#comment-3406407
Fri, 30 May 2014 17:00:38 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=114003#comment-3406407There seems to be so many pro personnel people on the site. I am not one, but I will say if your name isn’t peyton Manning, Eli Manning, or Andrew Luck, as a quarterback in the NFL you should probably ride the pine for a year or two. I have seen to many quarterbacks come into this league and fail because they were pressed into service too quickly. I am not a member of the MGM, I believe he has some good qualities and he can make most of the throws, I say the Bucs are doing the right thing by giving him time to develop. Remember arguably the best quarterback in the league even sat for three years Aaron Rodgers. If the pack felt he was ready to take over for Favre right away, he would have, they gave him time to develop, I think a great move. And no, I am not comparing Glennon to Rodgers, you can’t always rush these guys.
]]>By: Oil Derrick Brookshttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/05/hes-got-a-freaking-cannon/#comment-3406402
Fri, 30 May 2014 16:52:40 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=114003#comment-3406402@87

I get it. There was always hope. I just think there’s some hurt feelings from a few people who were big Freeman and Dom fans. The same people who give those guys chance after chance, won’t give Glennon or the new regime a fraction of the same.

For record, I’m not claiming I know less or more than anybody. I just think it’s bit hypocritical to not give the new regime a shot first before getting out the pitchforks, especially when to this day, people make excuses for Freeman.

Whether it’s McCown or Glennon, I just want improvement. If not, they’ll get another guy. But, damn, people, be consistent.

The absolute best is the guy handing out “D” grades to Licht already. It doesn’t get funnier than that. I would bet that Dom might still grade higher to him. LOL.

]]>By: BucsFan007http://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/05/hes-got-a-freaking-cannon/#comment-3406393
Fri, 30 May 2014 16:39:30 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=114003#comment-3406393ODB,
If Joe, Duemig, & Shawn King’s opinions were realized we’d be strapped to a Long Term Freeman contract about now. How’s that for an alternative ?

Not exactly accurate at all. The record is out there. In addition, by your silly revisionist logic, Joe, Duemig and King weren’t in favor of drafting Josh Freeman. –Joe

]]>By: Buc1987http://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/05/hes-got-a-freaking-cannon/#comment-3406384
Fri, 30 May 2014 16:20:11 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=114003#comment-3406384ODB…when it comes to me and Freeman. Keep in my mind the #1 reason I was on the Freeman bandwagon last year. It was because I thought Schiano’s staff could fix him. I believed Schiano was going to drag the “good” Josh out of him and the staff would fix him.

Boy I was way off.

]]>By: BoJimhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/05/hes-got-a-freaking-cannon/#comment-3406383
Fri, 30 May 2014 16:19:32 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=114003#comment-3406383Hey. I’m all for Glennon sitting behind McCown for a while. I also think he is the future. He made the best out of a bad situation last year. Didn’t hear him complain or bad mouth anyone. Give the kid a break.
]]>By: Buc1987http://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/05/hes-got-a-freaking-cannon/#comment-3406381
Fri, 30 May 2014 16:16:52 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=114003#comment-3406381There are a few of us on here that think the Bucs drafting got better under Schiano-Dom than before Schiano. I am one of them of those fans. LVD, Martin, Barron ( who I think is going to break out this season) in 2012. Banks ( who’s supposed to be an ideal fit for Lovie) Spence and Gholston look like they could be solid players too.

So if you are one of those fans that was impressed by the Schiano-Dom drafts. You have to believe that Glennon truly will become a good QB, regardless of what you saw on the field (excuses or facts) and all the turmoil surrounding the team last season.

I’m not saying Schiano is a QB expert or anything either. I’m saying that drafting improved under Schiano. Glennon was one of those players that was selected by Schiano. He was right about a few other players in the draft so far.

So far he was right about Glennon too. The new HC loves Mike Glennon as well. Something MANY of you thought could never happen. Hell some of you are STILL in denial over it. Some of you think it’s to hype up his trade value. Those people could be right, but so far they have been wrong when it comes to this kid.

I’m closing with this. When all the Glennon bashing started, I went around and read as much national analysis on the kid as I could. Pre-draft and during the season analysis. Some of you would be laughing at how many times you see the words strong arm or cannon to describe Glennon before he was drafted. It’s been known for quite some time even before he was even drafted that he does indeed in some scouts eyes have a “cannon”. The word was used a lot is all I’m saying.

]]>By: Oil Derrick Brookshttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/05/hes-got-a-freaking-cannon/#comment-3406369
Fri, 30 May 2014 15:43:51 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=114003#comment-3406369I’ve learned to look at the people who thought Josh Freeman was good, by taking the opposite of their opinions on QBs.
]]>By: buc4lyfehttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/05/hes-got-a-freaking-cannon/#comment-3406366
Fri, 30 May 2014 15:29:14 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=114003#comment-3406366@SAMCRO

Lol an outright lie huh only happened a few times huh…first of all we had the worst offense in the league. Secondly it only happened a few times because he barely threw deep balls, he’s called captain checkdown for a reason. For all his perceived skills why is it people want to forget him throwing over 40 passes in a game and still ending it with under 300 yards, with vjack and Mike Williams on the field plus new target Tim Wright. Why Joe said said himself Glennon has played more gamed than mccown in his last 5 year’s combined, who sits a cannon on the bench in favor of a career backup use your head