This one was different.

For the first time in the 20 years i've watched the Mets i felt like i cared more then they did.....5 runs in 3 games vs the Marlins with the season on the line is just pathetic.....i really really hope most of these guys are gone before spring training comes around.

Manuel was great for this team, he made one mistake the whole year in keeping in Ayala against Derek Lee. Other than that he did the best with what he had.

agreed...i dont think manuel should get a long term deal or anything, but he deserves a full season at the helm...the team finished short, but before he took over it looked completely dead in the water, and that at least warrants a second look...its not like there are any hot shot managerial candidates out there or anything (i mean ned yost? WTF?)...

agreed...i dont think manuel should get a long term deal or anything, but he deserves a full season at the helm...the team finished short, but before he took over it looked completely dead in the water, and that at least warrants a second look...its not like there are any hot shot managerial candidates out there or anything (i mean ned yost? WTF?)...

Word, Ned Yost??? I know we are all angry/sad/want to kill things, but come on lets not totally lose it.

Mets are in the playoffs if he doesn't go down. I've never been a huge fan of his, but he wouldn't have blown as many saves as the fill-in's blew in that time span. But, injuries are part of the game. You guys could very well have K-Rod closing games for you next season.

Mets are in the playoffs if he doesn't go down. I've never been a huge fan of his, but he wouldn't have blown as many saves as the fill-in's blew in that time span. But, injuries are part of the game. You guys could very well have K-Rod closing games for you next season.

We better have K-Rod next season.

I also agree Manuel deserves another shot. No Ned Yost.

I also think Minaya shouldn't be extended, but he's getting another pass.

If we had even an average bullpen we would have finished 10 games in front. Every releif pitcher on this team needs to be canned. We need to make alot of RP for RP type trades just to get some new faces in here.

If we had even an average bullpen we would have finished 10 games in front. Every releif pitcher on this team needs to be canned. We need to make alot of RP for RP type trades just to get some new faces in here.

agreed- a fresh pen should bring it at least to the middle of the pack which would have been good enough this year for the NL east- you never know what you will get off the scrap heap in terms of RP. The bullpen would have no where to go but up.

That tool Mike Greenberg had some ridiculous comments about the Met "collapse". Is a 3 game lead in early september with a scrub bullpen, thin lineup, and a Maine-less rotation something you can count on?

The problem with the Mets is they started to overachieve in the second half which got them back in the race. The Mets were never as good as they seemed. Alou, Wagner, and Maine going down along with the downfall of Heilman and Sanchez ended the Mets season. If it wasn't for Santana hoisting the team on his shoulders for the stretch run this season would have been over a week ago. I hope Wilpon has his check book ready because with out some serious additions this team is looking at another close miss next year.