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but if his characters arent even listed (2 of them arent, as he said) then they wont be able to enter. and unless this one gives special hytbold tokens that bind to account instead of to character, that reward will be useless if it goes to any toon below 84

It will not be. This is a major reason why there have been no lotteries. As this aspect of the system is going away and this is not going to be addressed.

Today however a lottery is running that, as long as you are level 10 or higher, has the same rewards for everyone.

So whether or not your character levels update is irrelevant for today's lottery.

Thanks for this lottery. And I am glad that all aspects of the system is going away, as this means there is hope that my main account, which has gotten the lottery white screen of death since mid July last year, will finally be able to enter lotteries again with the new forums and site...

Yeah, one would have to wonder how the lotteries are going to continue when new characters that are added aren't updated.

I have a few new characters that aren't elegible because the system hasn't updated since April.

Turbine will have a completely built from the ground up brand new method to export the minimal that they need for a lotto. Which would be account, name, world, level and class. Perhaps race and gender. I expect that the data will be private and secured so that no customers can mine this data like alt finder does.

Unless stated otherwise, all content in this post is My Personal Opinion.

Turbine will have a completely built from the ground up brand new method to export the minimal that they need for a lotto. Which would be account, name, world, level and class. Perhaps race and gender. I expect that the data will be private and secured so that no customers can mine this data like alt finder does.

That's a lot of backend work just to be able to keep the lottery.

Honestly, I see them coming back and saying it wont be possible and use the fact that there's "Hobbit Presents" now to replace it.

Because the lottery ended last night. So it is correct, there are no lotteries.

It would be correct, if it said that there are no current lotteries. But it does not say that. It says that there are current lotteries, and that his characters are not eligible for them:

You have no characters eligible for the current lotteries.

Long-time players know to interpret this statement differently than what it says -- we know it actually means "There are no current lotteries running." But you keep getting this question from the newer players, because the wording makes it sound like there are current lotteries which they aren't eligible for.

I know the whole systems is changing up very soon, so correcting the wording on this message is not really an issue. Just wanted to point out that he was reading the page correctly, it was just misleadingly phrased.

The characters haven't updated, all of their levels are wrong and two toons (one of which is lvl85) aren't even listed.

Hope this is fixed before the draw ends.

Originally Posted by Sapience

It will not be. This is a major reason why there have been no lotteries. As this aspect of the system is going away and this is not going to be addressed.

Today however a lottery is running that, as long as you are level 10 or higher, has the same rewards for everyone.

So whether or not your character levels update is irrelevant for today's lottery.

Thanks for another lottery and the character updates, I can now enter all my toons (with listed lvls corrected).
Shame the update couldn't have be been done last week though.
More info here in Sapience's thread.

Beer and fireworks, nice, guess Turbine has never heard of "Health and Safety"?
Maybe you should have thrown in a stack of wound pots just in case there's any clumsy Hobbits!