Democracy fails when who ever you vote for goes along with and or expands the corporate military program. Democracy itself does not foment peace nor does it provide jobs or food. Democracy does not give you human rights but it can assist the removal of them. Corporations and the military are NOT democratic.

I am alone here. I find it totally unacceptable to favour increasing the military budget while at the same time trying to reduce SS. What real Democrat can vote for that? That alone is enough to make any person with morals and integrity leave the Dem party. It's obscene how much is spent on the killing machine while our fellow citizens loose their jobs so the greedy can hand out jobs that don't even pay a living wage. It's sick and sociopathic.

Here's IMO a real good thing to think about. Why did they choose the Pentagon and the World Trade Centre to attack? They are symbols and the centres of world corporations and the world police. The 3rd way centrist wing of the Dem party is married to them. It's only the left that cares about jobs, taking care of our elderly, fair taxes, reducing the military, single payer health care, infrastructure, good public schools, open transparent government, legalizing weed, stopping privatization of natural resources and prisons, protecting the environment, reducing global climate change, keeping the gov and church out of our womens bodies, etc. Oh and how about we actually let the free market forces do what they should have done ...let the banksters fail and prosecute them like the greedy criminals they are. Clearly there is now laws for them and laws for the little people. We need corruption free justice.

So IMO the 3rd way centrists only point is that if you don't vote or don't vote (D) then the repukes will be worse. Sounds like an admission to being not as bad but bad none the less. Well in that case then why even bother to discuss it? Just vote (D). Gawd ...is that wrong or what. Speaking of Single Payer ...this whole ACA thing is an unholy prostitution of our government with insurance corporations. If only we did not spend a totally out of proportion amount of money on the military we would have enough for Single Payer without whoring out to more corporations.

3rd way centrists are the prostitutes of the Dem party to which they are married to. They are adulterers as they sell themselves to corporations after the wedding. Dem candidates speak their marriage vows during their political campaigns and then turn their backs on those vows as they prostitute themselves for that next round of campaign funding ...and future lobby job that awaits them in Vegas where marriage and divorce is quick and easy.

Did not the left push for equal rights and win? Didn't they push for womens rights and win? Didn't they help stop Vietnam? I just don't get it ...why are they so willing to attack the Dem left? The attacks are not going to bring the left over to the Dem right. Asking or telling them to leave the Dem party certainly will not get their votes. It's gotten so bad that even FDR is being thrown under the bus. What's next? War, low pay jobs, more money for big corps, making those on SS suffer, etc? Yea many of the GOP have moved away from the teabaggers ...so far away that they have somewhat joined with far right Dems. Who knows how many have actually re-registered as a Dem. What could go wrong? One big ass party ...and two little parties with no chance of success? Republidems, Lefties and Teabaggers. Is that really what the centrists and 3rd way want? Maybe they don't want that for the sake of keeping the good cop bad cop game going on. I'd rather have a Dem party that is very clearly identifiable and distinguished from the right ...by their actions. I want to know who I am voting for and be able to vote for them with a clear conscience and integrity. Is that being too left?

Making money from bloodshed and bombs ...working against the Constitution ...stealing from the poor to enrich the 1% ...turning people into neighbourhood spies ...funding the largest fucking military in the world while people starve ...what's not to like about who ever is the POTUS or SCOTUS of the moment? Oh yea they know better than you or I and they are protecting us whether we know it or not ...and freedom isn't free ...and you can say what you want because we went to war over something or other ...all the fucking romanticizing of war and killing is a core rotting sickness infecting society that will never know peace thanks to these megalomaniacs who love power, money and war.

We could do sooo much real good with the resources we still have. We could be good to people.

Do you even know? I read a lot of talk but I doubt many have a total grasp of its principles or values and history which starts around 1912, peaked with FDR IMO. The Progressive Party was a factor in the presidential campaigns of three men — Theodore Roosevelt, Robert La Follette, and Henry Wallace. There were a few Progressive Party organizations spanning this period of time but after the 1952 elections, they disappeared entirely.

By the 60's politics became glamorized with JFK and Nixon sweating during a televised debate that I remember watching. It became a matter of who talks the best talk and looks the most presidential ...Howard Dean screams and awkward Al Gore stance and wimpy Kerry flip flop are proof of that. It's even a matter of tv ad value ...which candidate gets more viewers ...like some stupid American Idol show ratings. Yea that was over 50 years ago and wow have we come a long way ...and I wouldn't call it a better system now.

IMO we are going to see a big fight here soon over what the Democratic party is or should be or isn't. I'm seeing it everyday on DU. That big tent could shrink drastically should it be perceived that the 1% has selected the next Dem POTUS candidate. People have had enough of corporate rule and being lied to and being taken for fools. Occupy is a harbinger of what is to come. I highly suggest that you do some soul searching and read up on the history of Progressives and then look at the Democratic party and figure out where you believe the Democratic party should be.

No one who serves in an office of the US government, its military and SCOTUS should ever be held above legit criticism nor should the dissent and protest of said persons policy or actions be barred or treated like domestic terrorism. I would add ...that also applies to one's own chosen political party.

Who ever wrote V has it right except that our government WILL kill us. They will keep pushing us down until we... (station break) Get No No ...look at how wonderful your crotch area will look after using No No ...show it to your friends and neighbours ...get ready for that summer bathing suit by using No No ...and guys ...looking too much like that hairy teddy bear? ...tired of getting that wax ripped off your baby skin? ...try No No for that young boy look on the beach (end break) Breaking news: The Revolution Will Not Be Televised...

I get angry! That's not good for me ...or maybe anyone. It isn't the usual gang of DU assholes that brings it on. It's the feelings of futility, the growing pessimism, the resentment and the constant bombardment of the stupidity from gov representatives who are supposed to be smarter than your average bear ...but obviously are not. I ask myself "self ...why do you even give a fuck?" At this point I am ready to stoke up some mighty ignore functions in my brain and my life. IMO it is better to have a calm social demeanour and reduce as much stress as possible in any legal way I can. I've discovered that being on DU has a detrimental affect on me. I feel a need to better myself and reduce my over all anger. I am not too old to change and I am looking to implement some thought process techniques. 1) control initial burst of anger, calm down quicker, & let go of anger sooner 2) convert criticism & pessimism to praise & optimism 3) look for good in people (and myself) instead of bad 4) convert resentment into forgiveness. Mission impossible? Na ...I am going to back off from giving a shit about what this fucked up country and it's fucked up government does ...maybe even not vote ever again. For me it is not worth getting riled up about anymore. There's nothing to be gained anymore from getting riled up. IMO this government and country where greed rules all has gone to far off the deep end for any chance of a cure unless you can somehow get Goldman Sachs out of our fucked up government. Anyway I am done giving a shit about those greedy disgusting predatory assholes whether its the banksters or MIC exploitation and of course the ever growing group of assholes who infiltrate our imperialistic exceptionalist government so later on they can become corporate lobbyists after everything they fucking vote on is for their future ...not mine. I got to step back and ask myself if it's worth getting angry over ...and ya know what ...It's not.

Kirk and Spock must save their ship's crew when they are declared all killed in action in a bizarre computer simulated war where the actual deaths must occur to continue.

If you remember the idea was to be able to have war without destroying everything. Kinda like our drone and missile attacks. Everything is remote. Kirk destroys the computers which play the war game and select who must report for the death chambers. OH NOES ...NOW WE WILL REALLY HAVE TO KILL IN PERSON AND OUR STUFF WILL GET BLOWN UP! Yeah ...well it doesn't escape me that they are making a remote control war real easy. Oh ...silly me ...just because we fly a few hundred killer drones in and drop a few hundred bombs doesn't mean we are at war ....does it!

ACA will be just another way to forcefully extract money for your life. No cap on co-pays? Oh wow geeze ...can you guess what that co-pay % will be? I can. Hmmmm "deductibles were to be limited to $2,000 per year" So uhmmm at least $2000 in co-pays ....well gee I can get insured for $400 a month with a $5000 yearly deductible. Problem is that I don't make make enough money to pay that nor enough to pay $2000 for an ACA deductible. If that is the deductible then I can imagine what the premium will be or can't I? Now they will delay that for another year so what happens in the mean time? I guess the IRS will be taking ACA out of my $274 a week take home pay and then let me worry about deductibles later.

Oh yea ...isn't that what insurance is all about? Take your money and not pay out? Unless you also pay for the lawyer to try to force them to pay? I don't believe or think ACA is going to allow you to use a lawyer to force them to help you.

Not only did Baucus and Obama take single payer off the table, now it's getting even farther whittled away ...and it's temporary right? Well we can't be having corporations be unprepared for ACA ...while everyone else has to be prepared to start paying in 2014?

Are they also delaying the IRS forced ACA deduction from my paycheck in 2014?

Boy oh boy ...I just can't wait for the next center right POTUS candidate telling us they will fix all this ...by compromising with the GOP enemy.