Kevin Gianni — author of Kale and Coffee: A Renegade’s Guide to Health, Happiness, and Longevity — returns to the podcast to discuss his journey from a food-obsessed, raw vegan YouTube celebrity to a healthier, happier version of himself.

Here are my notes!

5:03 – How Kevin’s time as a vegan, raw foodie YouTube celeb led him to an unhealthy obsession with food.

12:14 – The reason why good intentions don’t always equal good health, and how anything taken to the extreme will eventually make us sick.

15:14 – The one thing Kevin’s doctor told him he needed to do to save his health – and why Kevin didn’t do it right away.

18:13 – Is it helping or hurting? Kevin transitions to eating meat and deals with the thin line between helping people and hurting people in the health space.

22:51 – Kevin runs into another health challenge (by eating only organic foods!) and the most important thing he learned from not being able to button his pants.

27:45 – Kale, coffee and kids: Finding a more reasonable, realistic way to be healthy without going off the deep end.