Singapore to bar over 28,000 people from casinos 10:52, December 17, 2009
Singapore's National Council on Problem Gambling will send letters to over 28,000 people in Singapore, barring them from the two upcoming casinos, local media reported on Wednesday.

The majority are undischarged bankrupts while the rest are recipients of public financial assistance, local TV broadcaster Channel NewsAsia said.

The report said that Singapore is the first country in the world to automatically bar such cases from the gaming tables. The council said the exclusion orders are meant to protect those in a financially precarious situation.

The orders were issued by the council, but it is the casinos who will have to enforce the rule and if they don't, they may lose its license or be fined up to 1 million Singapore dollars (about 0.7 million U.S. dollars).

Both casinos said they are working closely with the Casino Regulatory Authority to ensure no one slips through. Marina Bay Sands said checks will be made at the door when customers pay entry fees.

Problem gamblers may also seek to exclude themselves from the casinos and in the one month since applications were opened, 56 have done so. Applications may also be made by family members, and so far, 19 exclusion orders have been issued.

Singapore's two casinos at the two Integrated Resorts, Marina Bay Sands and Resorts World Sentosa, will begin operations next year.

Singapore to bar over 28,000 people from casinos 10:52, December 17, 2009
Singapore's National Council on Problem Gambling will send letters to over 28,000 people in Singapore, barring them from the two upcoming casinos, local media reported on Wednesday.

The majority are undischarged bankrupts while the rest are recipients of public financial assistance, local TV broadcaster Channel NewsAsia said.

The report said that Singapore is the first country in the world to automatically bar such cases from the gaming tables. The council said the exclusion orders are meant to protect those in a financially precarious situation.

The orders were issued by the council, but it is the casinos who will have to enforce the rule and if they don't, they may lose its license or be fined up to 1 million Singapore dollars (about 0.7 million U.S. dollars).

Both casinos said they are working closely with the Casino Regulatory Authority to ensure no one slips through. Marina Bay Sands said checks will be made at the door when customers pay entry fees.

Problem gamblers may also seek to exclude themselves from the casinos and in the one month since applications were opened, 56 have done so. Applications may also be made by family members, and so far, 19 exclusion orders have been issued.

Singapore's two casinos at the two Integrated Resorts, Marina Bay Sands and Resorts World Sentosa, will begin operations next year.

Source: Xinhua

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Thanks Gz. Do these two soon-to-open casinos have different owners? What is the population of Singapore? Did the general public vote for them?

I am wondering however whether Singapore allows free access to blackjack. For instance, in Genting Malaysia, only those with silver cards, or those who have clocked quite a number of hours, are allowed into the international room. And only the international room has blackj.

There are tables available to everyone on Level 1. Opening weekend had $10, $20 and $50 tables, they now have only $50 and $100 tables. Even with this they are crowded and lots of players tagging along on your bets, this must be an Asian thing, I am American living in Singapore.

There are tables available to everyone on Level 1. Opening weekend had $10, $20 and $50 tables, they now have only $50 and $100 tables. Even with this they are crowded and lots of players tagging along on your bets, this must be an Asian thing, I am American living in Singapore.

And yeah, Asian casinos are pretty much all CSM these days. This is bad for advantage players (obviously), but the house edges on the BJ tend to be lower... Macau's average HE is 0.16% even on low-roller tables, with the Wynn and MGM Grand being even lower at 0.1%. Also, last time I was there, Wynn used a discard tray of 1 deck, so you do get some slight fluctation in the true count. Although I heard they got rid of that a while ago, they might have brought it back though.

And yeah, Asian casinos are pretty much all CSM these days. This is bad for advantage players (obviously), but the house edges on the BJ tend to be lower... Macau's average HE is 0.16% even on low-roller tables, with the Wynn and MGM Grand being even lower at 0.1%. Also, last time I was there, Wynn used a discard tray of 1 deck, so you do get some slight fluctation in the true count. Although I heard they got rid of that a while ago, they might have brought it back though.

What is the number of decks? For the purposes of this, I'll assume its six. Also, can the player double after a split? For the purposes of this analysis, I'll assume they can. Also, I assume you only get one card on split aces?

What is the number of decks? For the purposes of this, I'll assume its six. Also, can the player double after a split? For the purposes of this analysis, I'll assume they can. Also, I assume you only get one card on split aces?

By "split twice" you mean if its a pair of non-aces, you can form up to three hands?

I assumed ES on 9 (like Macau), so that was taken into account. When I say ES10 I mean ES on anything that isn't an ace.

OK, so assuming you can split to three hands total, except on aces...

4deck S17 DAS ES10 ENHC D9-11 Split3 NRSA

House edge before Early Surrender is taken into account = 0.57%

Subtract 0.24% for ES10

Total house edge = 0.33%

This is actually a pretty good game. Not as good as Macau (about twice as bad as the average Macau game) but much better than Australia and slightly better (in house edge terms) than the standard low-roller game on the Las Vegas Strip.

Thanks for the info! By the way, do they put the cards back into the machine after every hand? Or do they have a discard tray that's 1 deck high which they fill before placing back into the machine?

Total house edge = 0.33%
Thanks for the info! By the way, do they put the cards back into the machine after every hand? Or do they have a discard tray that's 1 deck high which they fill before placing back into the machine?

If by cash back you mean rewards by playing, I have heard it is bad as compared to Genting. Only seated players can get points, whereas in genting you get pts as a wonger provided you bet about the same amount.