Late last month, I wrote an article and made a video showing off just how well Paladins was working on Linux thanks to Steam Play. Here we are again, only a couple weeks later and it's now a complete dud, with it almost instantly kicking me (and confirmed by others) out of games. You might get in for a few seconds, but with 100% reproduction it will kick you pretty quickly back to the main menu.

Back when previously writing about such an issue, I did make it clear with a note about how "with multiplayer titles and Steam Play there's nothing stopping the developer adjusting their anti-cheat which could end up locking-out Linux gamers".

It's a real shame, as both myself and my Son enjoyed playing Paladins and apart from a few issues which were also present on Windows, it worked beautifully with some really great performance.

While Steam Play has opened the door to a lot of titles not officially available on Linux, it's not quite the answer to everything as some like to repeatedly claim. This is obviously going to be a repeating problem with multiplayer games, so for now, I would honestly just keep away from any game using Easy Anti-Cheat with Steam Play. I will repeat what I said when I spoke about Darwin Project, I think Valve should really note on store pages what anti-cheat systems are used to help gamers make informed decisions.

What will be interesting, is that Valve said they will be rolling out "Steam Trust" in their post about some changes coming to Steam. Perhaps if more developers use Valve's own tools when they're available, this might not be such an issue since you would expect Valve's own tools to work with Steam Play.

I've reached out to Easy Anti-Cheat, again, to see if they would like a constructive chat about it. They didn't reply last time, so hopefully they will this time.

GuestYour mind is sick if you want to shoot other players with a gun. That is why Skyrim, Rift and Final Fantasy XIV are better games than those FPS games. My kid did want to have a real gun and I did build a fps gaming computer. I hope my kid have learned some empathy when my kid dies in games.

So... shooting people in-game is sick but slicing people up with swords and axes and setting them on fire or poisoning them is perfectly okay?

Alrighty, it's a good that you have a solid grasp of what is bad and what is not.

HAHA!! i laughed so hard at this.yea i think setting someone on fire you know just to get the point across is a great non violent way of doing things HAHA.wow i can't even.

QuoteSteam Trust: The technology behind Trusted Matchmaking on CS:GO is getting an upgrade and will become a full Steam feature that will be available to all games. This means you'll have more information that you can use to help determine how likely a player is a cheater or not.

So if it's effective in stopping cheaters and devs use it, problem solved?

QuoteSteam Trust: The technology behind Trusted Matchmaking on CS:GO is getting an upgrade and will become a full Steam feature that will be available to all games. This means you'll have more information that you can use to help determine how likely a player is a cheater or not.

So if it's effective in stopping cheaters and devs use it, problem solved?

Well, until it is allowed to run outside Steam (which all Valve stuff related to Steam aren't IIRC), I don't think so. This locks game hard to one store, so I don't think devs/publishers will use it, unless they firmly decided they want to release only on Steam, so closing their options not only for release, but for the future as well.

QuoteSteam Trust: The technology behind Trusted Matchmaking on CS:GO is getting an upgrade and will become a full Steam feature that will be available to all games. This means you'll have more information that you can use to help determine how likely a player is a cheater or not.

So if it's effective in stopping cheaters and devs use it, problem solved?

Well, until it is allowed to run outside Steam (which all Valve stuff related to Steam aren't IIRC), I don't think so. This locks game hard to one store, so I don't think devs/publishers will use it, unless they firmly decided they want to release only on Steam, so closing their options not only for release, but for the future as well.

Couldn't they use it on Steam and something else on other stores?
No, never mind, I guess if it's a matchmaking thing that wouldn't work.

monnefWell, until it is allowed to run outside Steam (which all Valve stuff related to Steam aren't IIRC), I don't think so. This locks game hard to one store, so I don't think devs/publishers will use it, unless they firmly decided they want to release only on Steam, so closing their options not only for release, but for the future as well.

I have faith that Valve will do the right thing. If Trust matchmaking improvements makes it effective against cheaters, then surely it would get better adoptation if it can be used even without Steam. I could be entirely wrong too, but Valve's track record so far has been good in my eyes. They aren't perfect but they sure as hell ain't Epic.
Robin Williams (rip) comes out of book and asks "Has Fortnite been released for Linux?!"

Trust feature aside, I read on LG reddit that Valve is apparently working with EAC?

One thing to keep in mind. If Trust tackles cheating much better than EAC, VAC and Battleeye, then it could persuade devs. Assuming Trust (after improved) will be low resource compared to anticheat solutions. I sure would embrace it, at very least for Steam, if it worked well.

QuoteSteam Trust: The technology behind Trusted Matchmaking on CS:GO is getting an upgrade and will become a full Steam feature that will be available to all games. This means you'll have more information that you can use to help determine how likely a player is a cheater or not.

So if it's effective in stopping cheaters and devs use it, problem solved?

Well, until it is allowed to run outside Steam (which all Valve stuff related to Steam aren't IIRC), I don't think so. This locks game hard to one store, so I don't think devs/publishers will use it, unless they firmly decided they want to release only on Steam, so closing their options not only for release, but for the future as well.

Couldn't they use it on Steam and something else on other stores?
No, never mind, I guess if it's a matchmaking thing that wouldn't work.

If they could use something which runs everywhere (and the Trust wouldn't be a matchmaker), what motivation for using Valve's solution they have? It is much easier and cheaper to just use one solution which runs everywhere.

Of course as Linuxwarper wrote, there is (I think slim) possibility that Trust won't be tied to Steam. Then things could get interesting.

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