Kelvin Mackenzie, liar and scumbag, finds time from not being prosecuted for being an odious ###### of a human being, to write in the Telegraph about how the poor south needs some proper representation for all its taxation:

He may be polemic but there is a degree of truth in what he says. People in the South East do work longer hours and commuting is crappy. The quality of life is terrible in that part of the world unless you happen to be a loaded jorno / editor that is.

He may be polemic but there is a degree of truth in what he says. People in the South East do work longer hours and commuting is crappy. The quality of life is terrible in that part of the world unless you happen to be a loaded jorno / editor that is.

Too many people in the south east have never been to "the norf" and have a very stereotyped view of what it is like and yet northern towns often do very well when there are surveys of the best places to live in the UK. They are to be pitied.

No, honestly, its far better in the south...I'm talking Surrey Hills, Guildford, Farnham, Godalming, Petersfield, ..yes it is really...overall, better weather, better pubs, smarter wimmin, higher pay, better jobs, better restaurants and so much more ...but beer is so much more expensive. round here, Bombadier is £2.80 as is Batemans. All pub furniture round here is dark brown, as is the paintwork and the sticky carpets. round here they are full off old people, too.

in the sarf, roads are packed with aggressive drivers, company cars, too may traffic jams, rude people, union fans....

The M25 corridor is hell on earth. Each and every dreary town I've ever visited around there is far grimmer than anything in the north. They are all concrete covered wastelands, choking beneath a fog of perma-pollution.

And that's before you get me started on what passes for beer (what I pass passes for beer more convincingly).

"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."

The M25 corridor is hell on earth. Each and every dreary town I've ever visited around there is far grimmer than anything in the north. They are all concrete covered wastelands, choking beneath a fog of perma-pollution.

And that's before you get me started on what passes for beer (what I pass passes for beer more convincingly).

If you ever get bored of the BI there's a sure to be an opening for you on the Lonely Planet as they update there UK book or in the Slough tourist information office!

The M25 corridor is hell on earth. Each and every dreary town I've ever visited around there is far grimmer than anything in the north. They are all concrete covered wastelands, choking beneath a fog of perma-pollution.

And that's before you get me started on what passes for beer (what I pass passes for beer more convincingly).

The quality of life is terrible in that part of the world unless you happen to be a loaded jorno / editor that is.

You really do make me chuckle with your sweeping ignorance.

For once I'm going to agree with NS here. Life in the south east seemed to me to be bereft of any kind of community spirit or reaching out to other people. The cost of living is hideously expensive and I was surrounded by David Brent style ######s. Give me the north any day.

"Freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice, socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality" - Mikhail Bakunin

I've lived in the southeast for more than a decade, commute every day, never been loaded and think my life is pretty damn fine.

I wouldn't presume to generalise about everyone down here based on my own or my friends' experiences only.

Like I say I've got loads of family in the South East and I visited it every year as a child and spent years living there. If you are living in one of the nicest villages in the home counties in commuting distance of London then you must be loaded because otherwise you could not afford it. House prices and rent are simply insane.

When I go back north and go shopping in Rochdale, I have to confess I do not suddenly think 'wow, I should move back, the quality of life looks amazing'. I'm usually trying to avoid the gangs of tracksuit wearing youths and the general feeling of depression.

With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!