Don’t know if that woman is his real mommy or not, but she is a pretty woman. And if his soul was not so evil, he is a handsome man. ... When the worm (snake from the original garden) enters the apple through the stem indention, the fruit rots from the inside out.

Hope that’s true but as they sit on it there’s more and more destruction of this once great country and zero’s ramping it up on a daily basis. If true, then the GOP better have someone with a big set of brass ones to hit the reset button on the last four years and all the bills zero has made into law. The GOP better also have a roster of new blood for congress who will back President Big Brass or there will nothing but infighting bringing us down further. I won’t get into the list of candidates’ pros and cons but the only two with enough fortitude are Palin and Cain. The others will cave at the least resistence committing the US to “hey, it’s a done deal so just live with it” on zero’s laws and rule changes. The next election is a long, long way down this road of destruction.

If Zero had any actual connection to the Dunham family biologically, then a HI birth would be practically certain, in which case, much of the subtrefuge, lying, documentation fraud, collusion and criminal activity by the DoH would be totally unnecessary.

Lies upon lies. For instance, the lies about the delivery doctor, and so on.

Why is there no photo of Zero with any Dunham family member until he is at least 3 years old?

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posted on 07/19/2011 8:02:38 AM PDT
by little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)

In Janny Scott’s book, there’s a photo of a smiling, fawning Stanley Ann holding newborn Maya. With them, in INDONESIA, is a smiling, fawning Madelyn. Where’s a similar photo of “Ann” and Madelyn and baby Barack? Nowhere to be seen. In fact, no baby photos of her first-born child. None with his “proud father”, either. Why is that? Doesn’t seem, you know, NORMAL.

I think the Indonesian school record was found by an AP reporter who was attempting to DISPROVE Hillary’s allegation that he was schooled in a madrassa. Accidentally, a mainstream media reporter reported the truth. For a change.

The Stanley Sr being the father does not explain the why Zero was “groomed” since he was young, who paid for all his expensive education, and so on. It’s clear he’s had big financial backing his whole life. Where did this come from? Who has financed him continually? And it also is inconceivable that his daughter would have gone to the trouble of the fake divorce so as to gain custody of him, or the entire Obama from Kenya angle. It makes no sense whatsoever for Stanley Dunham to be the father. If Stanley D were the father, then why is there not one photo of Zero with any of the Dunhams until Zero was at least three years of age?

And then the whole Anna 0bama in Seattle, that cannot be fitted into the Stanley being the father scenario at all.

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posted on 07/19/2011 9:50:25 AM PDT
by little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)

I wont get into the list of candidates pros and cons but the only two with enough fortitude are Palin and Cain.
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I agree, but I will add West and Rubio to that list. Sadly, only has announced they will run. I think Sarah has decided not to run. If she is going to run, she’s waiting too long, making the “Fred Thompson” mistake.

And then the whole Anna 0bama in Seattle, that cannot be fitted into the Stanley being the father scenario at all. There was a woman named Anna 0bama in Seattle, it is obvious it was not Stanley Ann. Anna 0bama is also listed in the Polk directory in Honolulu, IIRC, at the back house around the time “Zero” was born. So there was an Anna 0bama, who was not Stanley Ann, who had a baby.

Then, there is the current resident of the White House.

What if any relationship does Anna 0bama’s baby have to Zero? Or to the Dunhams? These are important questions

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posted on 07/19/2011 10:17:48 AM PDT
by little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)

In Janny Scotts book, theres a photo of a smiling, fawning Stanley Ann holding newborn Maya. With them, in INDONESIA, is a smiling, fawning Madelyn. Wheres a similar photo of Ann and Madelyn and baby Barack? Nowhere to be seen. In fact, no baby photos of her first-born child. None with his proud father, either. Why is that? Doesnt seem, you know, NORMAL. _______________________________________

Yes, and I have said the same thing over and over here on FR for the past 2 years. ONE photo of him as a baby, alone, and that could be any baby. There is not a shred of proof that is him. All of the others were of a toddler and still none with the grandparents or Sr. The 2-3 with Stanley could very easily be photoshopped.

I also find it VERY interesting that is not a single photo of Obongo with any girl ever until Michelle. Michelle has a prom picture with a guy. The only photos of O are ones with queer looking boys or alone. I imagine the reason no ex girlfriends have ever come forward is that there are none and the boyfriends are either dead or not talking, excpet for Larry Sinclair.

Photos like this explain why there is no past history of him with any women.

Why, I believe if you added the pregnant mom photos of all the Republican candidates together, you’d have a total of...ZERO pregnant mom photos. This cover-up is clearly much broader than we’d previously imagined!

So hes only been using the Aug 4 birthdate for three years, no wonder hes confused.
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??? I’m confused too. ALL of the old documents all have Aug. 4th. Are you saying that 3 years ago, ALL prior documents were altered to show a birth date of Aug. 4th instead of January?

It was passages in Dreams along with MANY other things that make me think that:

“He would read us poetry whenever we stopped by his house, sharing whiskey with Gramps out of an emptied jelly jar. As the night wore on the two of them would solicit my help in composing dirty limericks. eventually the conversation would turn to laments about women.

“They will drive you to drink, boy”, Frank would tell me soberly. “And if you let ‘em, they’ll drive you into your grave”.

I was intrigued by old Frank, with his books and whiskey breath and the hint of hard earned knowledge behind the hooded eyes. The visits to his house always left me feeling vaguely uncomfortable, though, as if I were witnessing some complicated, unspoken transaction between the two men, a transaction I couldn’t fully understand. The same thing I felt whenever Gramps took me to one of his favorite bars, in Honolulu’s red-light district.

“Don’t tell your grandmother,” he would say with a wink, and we’d walk past hard-faced, soft bodied street walkers into a small dark bar with a jukebox and a couple of pool tables. Nobody seemed to mind that Gramps was the only white man in the place, or that I was the only eleven- or tweleve-year old. Some of the men leaning across the bar would wave at us, and the bartender, a big, light skinned woman with bare, flesh arms would bring a Scotch for Gramps and a Coke for me. If nobody else was playing at the tables, Gramps would sometimes spot me a few balls and teach me the game, but usually I would sit at the bar, my legs dangling from the high stool, blowing bubbles into my drink and looking at the pornographic art on the walls-—the phosphorescent women on animal skins, the Disney characters in compromising positions. If he was around, a man named Rodney with a wide-brimmed hat would stop by to say hello.

snip...

I can still remember the excitement I felt during those evening trips, the enticement of darkness and the click of the cue ball, and the juke box flashing it’s red and green lights, and the weary laughter that ran around the room. Yet even though, as young as I was, I had already begun to sense that most of the people in the bar weren’t there out of choice, that what my grandfather sought there was the company of people who could help him forget his own troubles, people who he believed would not judge him. Maybe the bar really did help him forget, but I knew with the unerring instincts of a child that he was wrong about not being judged.

pgs. 77-78 Dreams from My Father ....

supposedly written by Barack Hussein Obama aka Barry Hussein Soetoro and probably really written by William Ayers.

Hope thats true but as they sit on it theres more and more destruction of this once great country and zeros ramping it up on a daily basis
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Do you think a few newspapers showing something different than the microfilm will cause an uproar, investigation and impeachment? There needs to be a solidly built case showing fraud with intent to deceive. Play it the wrong way and he will just blame others for tampering with things. In the end he will probably say he was lied to all his life and play the wounded deer card. There HAS to be evidence that he knew and deliberately deceived and the case has to be SOLID. Even then, the MSM isn’t going to touch it.

Not necessarily....maybe no pictures because he was hidden. A shameful family secret. Maybe he was born in Canada to hide the disgraceful little black baby. Maybe he was hidden until he got older and a story was concocted. There are many possibilities. I am confident one day the truth will emerge.

Rubio was born in Miami. Im not sure, but I suspect that Miami was part of the US at the time he was born - which, of course, would make him a natural born citizen.

It makes Rubio a native-born citizen. According to most interpretations of the founders' intent, he does not meet the requirement of natural born citizenship since his parents were not citizens at the time of his birth.

I was speculating and forgot about the Indo school document; although bgill reminded me it could be forged; who knows. I don’t know what other old or contemporaneous documents there are with the Aug. 4 birthday, what ones are there? So much - most - is inaccessible. Such as his kindergarten Noelani records - “Oops, lost!”. Or any other school documentation. There’s the Selective Service application, a forgery, both the “documents” presented by Zero, forgeries.

The immigration documents for 0bama the Kenyan are very suspect; very likely have been tampered with before release.

There’s the announcements - ha ha, what else is there? Other than newspaper articles since he’s been in the news that might have mentioned a birthdate.

I retract my speculation because due to complete lack of any real documents, there is no way of knowing when he was assigned the Aug 4 birthdate. Everything from the DoH is extremely suspect.

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posted on 07/19/2011 12:14:11 PM PDT
by little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)

Why would Stanley or the Dunhams want to take a baby that Anna and Obama Sr. had? Why would they want to do that and why would she send Barry back to HI to live with Gramps and hang around Frank as soon as Frank got a divorce and his wife moved out. 1970, Frank’s wife moves out and 1970, Stanley ships Barry’s a$$ back to HI and dumps him off while never in her life letting little Maya out of her sight. SAD is NOT the mother.

Are you sure? I have searched and searched for verification that his parents were not citizens when he was born and I cannot find it anywhere. You very well may be right and if they weren’t, he is NOT eligible.

I’ve read it a number of times, that they had esacaped from Cuba but were not yet naturalized; either one or (IIRC), both. I have read some speculation by (someone?) that because Cuba had some sort of protectorate or like status, that Cubans qualified as citizens but I think that’s utter nonsese.

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posted on 07/19/2011 12:33:56 PM PDT
by little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)

You signed up in July 2010, waited a year to post and your first post was saying the White House Insider was a fraud. Since then all you do is defend Barry Hussein. You’re not even a good troll. My guess is your days are numbered, you have already outed yourself.

I’ve searched and searched, I have asked many other Freepers that have stated his parents were not citizens when he was born and I have yet to get a definitive answer. If they weren’t citizens when he was born, in my book, he is not eligible, end of story, and it doesn’t matter what country they came from, but until I have proof they weren’t, I will consider him a contender in the future.

"Rubio was born in Miami. Im not sure, but I suspect that Miami was part of the US at the time he was born - which, of course, would make him a natural born citizen.

It makes Rubio a native-born citizen. According to most interpretations of the founders' intent, he does not meet the requirement of natural born citizenship since his parents were not citizens at the time of his birth.

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Correct. It's inconceivable that the framers would have considered a dual national who owes dual allegiance at birth to be considered a "natural born Citizen." The mere thought, in 1787 America, would have been absurd.

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posted on 07/19/2011 1:13:21 PM PDT
by rxsid
(HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))

Correct. It's inconceivable that the framers would have considered a dual national who owes dual allegiance at birth to be considered a "natural born Citizen." The mere thought, in 1787 America, would have been absurd.

According to some "FReepers", any one of these people would be eligible for POTUS....if they're born here:

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