Hi All,I hope I'm not creating repetitive forum but might we here from attendees the Decfest 2013 about their listening impressions of the Tori III vs the MK IV? Hope to make it there next year for my own session. Regards, DaveH

In general found the MK III with EL34's to be more lush, and with an emphasis on midrange. With the MK IV using KT66 tubes it was more balanced overall with very gentle gain characteristics. You could turn the amp all the way up without it clipping or going into distortion. Put EL34's in the MK IV and it did not sound nearly as good as with the KT66.

I didn't get to hear the MKIII, but RR's description of the MK IV is spot on. I enjoyed being able to crank it up without stressing about distortion, and actually found myself backing it down as it was getting quite loud.

No thanks. I have zero interest in the Mystery Amp, or any of the amps with meters. I still see no need for meters on these amps. If I can do just fine without a Tach on my Fat Bob, I don't need meters on my amps.

I love my seasoned Torii Mk III so much that I haven't even yet moved my new Torii Mk III into the main system, though it has over 1500 hours on it now in the second system, and even though Steve tells me the new one should sound better and even though I've wanted to have bass controls for years. I just love the sound I now have, and I'm loyal to that sound.

In my previous room bass was my biggest problem. In my new room bass is not a problem, but I think the bass controls would be great to play with. I'm probably going to find out soon. My sister is coming up from Virginia next weekend which means I could have a few days at home and not just a few hours at home and the rest at my parents. Would be a good time to make the amp switch.

But if I find the sound of the new amp not yet "seasoned" enough (these amps really change for the better over time, significantly) the new one will go back in the second system.

i am enjoying my torii 3 with the err speakers. clipping is not an issue as the volume is so low that there is no audible noise. maybe the 66s would tighten things up if i thought they were in need of, but does not seem to be the case. might just buy a cheap quad just for fun though.