Afrocentrism and Multiculturalism destroying America

by Louis BeamNo nation is born multicultured. Multiculturalism is an unnatural as well as unhealthy condition that can only afflict states in national decline. A multicultural state carries in it's geneses the seeds of eventual national destruction.

All multicultural nations will be found to be in a state of political, moral, economic and social decay. Greed and corruption will characterize the government coupled with oppressive measures directed against citizens. Lies and deceit will be stock and trade of media, politicians, and educational institutions. Such are the bellwethers of a multiculturalist advent." [link to www.louisbeam.com]

Did you know the famous Harold X of NOI, who is also known for his vulgar and hateful speeches as mentioned in a thread here somewhere (I think his other name was Khalid Muhammad), was for some time a Minister of a "Church of Afrocentrism" ?

Believe it or not, it means there has actually been a church set up solely on these political, false premises. They made a church of it !

the question was pretty straight forward, are you claiming that blacks built the pyramids? that the moors brought us math and science and that without the black race we would be nothing? take your head out of your ass black person you haven't done shit for the past 1000 years.

but since you are claiming such great things, i thought maybe you could work some of that ancient magic which you claim into our inner cities, they are in sore need of 'civilization.'

Quoting: davvi

I am not claiming anything, I am stating facts. Egypt was a black civilization, like it or not. The moors are black like it or not. The moors contributed to your renaissance, upliftment and civilization, like it or not.

These are not blanket statements. I have provided you proof which you obviously are throwing out the window. I know the superiority complex runs deep in some people, especially when their whole view on their culture is being shattered. Its understandable not being able to handle being lied to your whole life.

But please do not take your anger out on the messenger, take it out on the truth, if that is any way so possible lol

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18200348

Repeating a lie doesn't make a truth. I have been to Egypt and I have many friends of Algerian and Morrocan heritage. THEY are NOT sub-saharan BLACKS.........LMAO.. You are obviously the ignorant one and desperate. You prove the point this thread makes! Perfect Example! Iranians and Iraqies are NOT BLACK!! Jews lived in Egypt and are NOT black! Egypt does have some of the population that are descendents of Nubian slaves that mixed with the egyptians but it is a small part of the population and one probably the poorest.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17432459

You seem to fail to understand that all the pale arabs that are in northern africa, iran, iraq etc are all invaders lol.For example in egypt, after alexander invaded, they pushed all the blacks further south and west into africa. You guys were never the indigenous people there, you only usurped the land in the late BC's e.g Alexander 332 bc.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18200348

If those who got pushed south were so smart, why did they lose like that as well as reverting in every apparent way to much lower intelligence?

But I have taught some black people, and some of the very dark ones were pretty intelligent. One lady from Africa (she still had a thick accent) was quite good at math. Interestingly, I've never seen such talent (nor good attitude and willingness to work) among our affirmative-action generations here.

those iq tests are geared towards white folk and white folk norms, customs, view on reality/science etc. black people and minorities don't really care much for you so why would they do well on tests that are mainly asking qeuestions about you and what you believe to be true in this society. once again you corner there market of information, to suit your ideologies, which then again strengthen your position in society. If everybody is thinking like whitey, whats he got to worry about.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18200348

Fortunately, this view can be tested. Does our view of reality and science allow us to build stuff that works. Like:

long high bridges over rivers and valleyscomputerstransistorsairplanessatellites1000+ foot high buildingstelevisionsradios

and so on and so on. Now to me, the ability to apply our principles, our view of reality, and build STUFF THAT WORKS means there's a lot right with our view of things.

Now what are the accomplishments that come with YOUR view of things and science?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23597994

Can you build a pyramid today to the scale, size, precision, alignment with stars etc. I think not! You guys even tried and failed.

That science was lost or hidden for a reason my friend. Because if whitey had his hands on it, this planet would not be here or it would be in ruin, like it already isn't almost there.

All of your modern technology and gadgets and what not would not be here without the foundation of science and math, which was taught to you by none other than black people aka moors. The art of masonrry, again black people. Before the moors came into europe you guys were in a dark age! After you kicked us out, all of a sudden you guys have a renaissance? now I wonder how did that happen?

YOu guys had the great Roman civilization and still fell back into savagry after it fell. I would think after rulling for a thousand years, you guys would maintained some civility but I guess not.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18200348

are you claiming that blacks built the pyramids? yea, i know rearend al sharpton promotes that ridiculous claim but is that what you are claiming?

while you are at it could you take a trip into our inner cities and teach the inhabitants what it's like to be civilized, they seem to have missed class that day.

Quoting: davvi

Egypt is in Africa, dark people are in Africa--- Anything with melanin on this planet came from a source, and that source was very black my friend. White people have no melanin, and show up on the record 10,000 years ago. Africans were the creators are civilization, and we exported our knowledge around the world. That's why the Mayans worshiped Gods with black features. Our civilization was a PAN civilization... it was everywhere!

History books tell a different story, and start black history at the "WE ARE SLAVES" chapter of our story, and that's just completely unfair to the truth.

I envy you your experience in Sweden. That differs from mine here in the States. References on IQ tests here are generally subjective, geared to reflect the general populace, or at least the dominant populace (the ones that make the rules).

The only tests I have found to be realistic here are the Mensa tests.

Quoting: wabishkaeyabe 25213671

I think you may be right, mainly for the reason I've seen so many Americans claim they got EXTREMELY high IQ scores. I think they must have some kind of badly designed tests in the colleges etc, because geniuses and supergeniuses aren't supposed to be all that common in real life.

Take myself as an example:

I'm actually a borderline genius in certain respects, as has been revealed by professional IQ testing (Such tests take two full days to perform by the way).

They divide the IQ into several "sub-intelligences", I don't remember then all, but my score for verbal intelligence was 130 something, and my spatial IQ was slightly less, whereas my mathematical-logical ability was 160 something. The overall score was only 135 though.

160 is genius, 130 is merely pretty smart.

My ability to master a second language (English) satisfactorily should prove I'm pretty smart in that regard, so that number is probably about right.

And I have done quite a few ground-breaking mathematical analysis as a hobby, proving completely new things no-one else researched before me, which shows the 160 for logic is probably pretty correct too.

But I STILL only have 135 in overall IQ!

But here at GLP, I'm apparently constantly in the presence of my intellectual superiors, as it seems half the people visiting this place have 160 or more. Or so their high-school testing said.

Strangely enough, they still use rather bad grammar, and seem to have pretty low reading comprehension and ability to grasp "the essence" of things. I find it hard to believe such people are capable of the kinds of feats a true genius are, such as finding and exploring whole uncharted fields in math.

It seems more likely to me the US college tests vastly inflate the scores (by 40 points or so)!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884

Typical eugenicist Swede. If your dumb ass was really as smart as you claim it to be, citing IQ tests (lol), then you would consider some cultural facts, such as

Blacks tend not to give a shit about grammar, unlike whites

Similarly, many blacks just don't give a fuck. ie. when faced with some white dude with glasses presented a test, they're like "aight whateva". Unlike whities they don't place much value on such irrelevant stupidities from which a human being can supposedly be ranked and his/her intelligence sequestered and analyzed. they prefer to live real life, not dwell in intellectual fantasies about a eugenicist's wet dream of utopia where morons (ie. anyone who does something differently) don't exist. yeahh, an IQ test will help you in that direction. lmao

Oh but, shit, you took an IQ test that took two full days to complete... nvm me then.

You only make vague grand-sounding claims as to your intelligence but the substance of your argument shows that you're a fucking idiot who prides himself on highly ethnocentric methods of testing that are themselves created to make people like you feel like your retarded ideologies are grounded in fact and "intelligence".

I am neither black nor white so don't throw that in my face k?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25180110

Intelligence isn't the only thing that makes us human, but it's actually pretty important. It's true most of the population can sit comfortably in a centrally heated/air conditioned room and rage on the internet over how some people have the nerve to be smarter than them, but the fact remains - without those smarter than average, there would be no central heating, no air conditioning, and no internet. It takes intelligence to invent stuff. It also takes intelligence to organize stuff, and to keep stuff chugging along.

The masses possessing average intelligence are free to partake of the fruits of the work of the vastly more intelligent, but a little respect wouldn't hurt. Perhaps even some gratitude would be in order?

Your post literally reeks of hate towards anyone smarter than you. It is immature, and only shows your own poor self image.

It is possible you are actually too dumb to realize how much in your life you owe to more intelligent people than yourself. That's the tragic irony of it all - the dumb are too dumb to realize how dumb they are.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884

Well, clearly, at this point I must ascertain that your mental barrier is the idea that the ideal society is a white(skin and collar color) slave society.

It is obvious to me that you do not believe in any sort of "conspiracy" theories that attempt to identify the real dynamics of our globalized world. Consequently you point to the bourgeois European white lifestyle, marvel at its technological achievements and the like, and determine that it is their culture and race that is supreme. Everyone needs to work towards achieveing such intelligence (enter the ethnocentrism). Yet you fail to realize the reliance on black/brown slave labor. These races represent and manifest the outward physical manifestation of slavery. The white race represents the subtle one, disguised in self-indulgent, unquestioning belief in a dream and its trickle of benefits.

But there's really no point discussing this stuff with you since you're an ardent believer in (lol) the IQ test and everything it stands for.

Why don't you go have fun lobbying for the forced genetic modification (spelled extermination) of black people in your Nazi country? I'm sure you'd receive a sizeable following. Your country has done much worse.

Eugenics represents the negative side of the essence of your particular country's archtypical dream of societal and physical perfection. Why not recognize this energy guiding your countrymen and gain a glimpse into true intelligence that allows you to see how a person's personality is constructed based on soul age and incarnations and their manifestations as experiences, repression of emotions, tendencies and fears?

The first Americans were European solutreans you uneducated afrocentric libtard

Low IQ idiot

Without whites you would still be a naked australopithicus

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1619558

EDUCATION,BY WHO'S STANDARD'S TROG BOY? AFROCENTRIC? WHAT THE HELL IS AFROCENTRISM,WHEN LAST I CHECKED AFRICA IS AN CONTINENT,with over 50 COUNTRIES THAT COMPRISE IT.

IQ? BWAAAAA,HAHAHA!!

CMON CAVE BOY,YOU GOTTA BE KIDDIN,RIGHT? IS THIS THE BEST YOUR "STATE" SPONSORED "EDUCATED" MIND CAN MUSTER?

Quoting: Ha Kohane

Africa is a Continent and the black race is as distant to its great civilizations as Haiti is to North America, Your pathetic slave race by birthright has done NOTHING for this world and will do nothing you Sub Human IQ pos, you don't even deserve the right to talk to us over the internet.

Everything good in this world has been gained through the sweat and blood of the White race and the sooner you realize this the better your life will be.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6392071

That's funny, 'cause I have found that everything bad has been garnered from the "White" race.

Quoting: wabishkaeyabe 25213671

Everything good, and most of the bad too. Not much of any sort from the blacks.

But here's an exception. Blacks do have some musical talent. (Also athletic talent, but I'm talking of intellectual things.) Some of the jazz music has been developed by blacks, although I think most of the music theory supporting it was developed by whites.

I think you may be right, mainly for the reason I've seen so many Americans claim they got EXTREMELY high IQ scores. I think they must have some kind of badly designed tests in the colleges etc, because geniuses and supergeniuses aren't supposed to be all that common in real life.

Take myself as an example:

I'm actually a borderline genius in certain respects, as has been revealed by professional IQ testing (Such tests take two full days to perform by the way).

They divide the IQ into several "sub-intelligences", I don't remember then all, but my score for verbal intelligence was 130 something, and my spatial IQ was slightly less, whereas my mathematical-logical ability was 160 something. The overall score was only 135 though.

160 is genius, 130 is merely pretty smart.

My ability to master a second language (English) satisfactorily should prove I'm pretty smart in that regard, so that number is probably about right.

And I have done quite a few ground-breaking mathematical analysis as a hobby, proving completely new things no-one else researched before me, which shows the 160 for logic is probably pretty correct too.

But I STILL only have 135 in overall IQ!

But here at GLP, I'm apparently constantly in the presence of my intellectual superiors, as it seems half the people visiting this place have 160 or more. Or so their high-school testing said.

Strangely enough, they still use rather bad grammar, and seem to have pretty low reading comprehension and ability to grasp "the essence" of things. I find it hard to believe such people are capable of the kinds of feats a true genius are, such as finding and exploring whole uncharted fields in math.

It seems more likely to me the US college tests vastly inflate the scores (by 40 points or so)!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884

Typical eugenicist Swede. If your dumb ass was really as smart as you claim it to be, citing IQ tests (lol), then you would consider some cultural facts, such as

Blacks tend not to give a shit about grammar, unlike whites

Similarly, many blacks just don't give a fuck. ie. when faced with some white dude with glasses presented a test, they're like "aight whateva". Unlike whities they don't place much value on such irrelevant stupidities from which a human being can supposedly be ranked and his/her intelligence sequestered and analyzed. they prefer to live real life, not dwell in intellectual fantasies about a eugenicist's wet dream of utopia where morons (ie. anyone who does something differently) don't exist. yeahh, an IQ test will help you in that direction. lmao

Oh but, shit, you took an IQ test that took two full days to complete... nvm me then.

You only make vague grand-sounding claims as to your intelligence but the substance of your argument shows that you're a fucking idiot who prides himself on highly ethnocentric methods of testing that are themselves created to make people like you feel like your retarded ideologies are grounded in fact and "intelligence".

I am neither black nor white so don't throw that in my face k?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25180110

Intelligence isn't the only thing that makes us human, but it's actually pretty important. It's true most of the population can sit comfortably in a centrally heated/air conditioned room and rage on the internet over how some people have the nerve to be smarter than them, but the fact remains - without those smarter than average, there would be no central heating, no air conditioning, and no internet. It takes intelligence to invent stuff. It also takes intelligence to organize stuff, and to keep stuff chugging along.

The masses possessing average intelligence are free to partake of the fruits of the work of the vastly more intelligent, but a little respect wouldn't hurt. Perhaps even some gratitude would be in order?

Your post literally reeks of hate towards anyone smarter than you. It is immature, and only shows your own poor self image.

It is possible you are actually too dumb to realize how much in your life you owe to more intelligent people than yourself. That's the tragic irony of it all - the dumb are too dumb to realize how dumb they are.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884

Well, clearly, at this point I must ascertain that your mental barrier is the idea that the ideal society is a white(skin and collar color) slave society.

It is obvious to me that you do not believe in any sort of "conspiracy" theories that attempt to identify the real dynamics of our globalized world. Consequently you point to the bourgeois European white lifestyle, marvel at its technological achievements and the like, and determine that it is their culture and race that is supreme. Everyone needs to work towards achieveing such intelligence (enter the ethnocentrism). Yet you fail to realize the reliance on black/brown slave labor. These races represent and manifest the outward physical manifestation of slavery. The white race represents the subtle one, disguised in self-indulgent, unquestioning belief in a dream and its trickle of benefits.

But there's really no point discussing this stuff with you since you're an ardent believer in (lol) the IQ test and everything it stands for.

Why don't you go have fun lobbying for the forced genetic modification (spelled extermination) of black people in your Nazi country? I'm sure you'd receive a sizeable following. Your country has done much worse.

Eugenics represents the negative side of the essence of your particular country's archtypical dream of societal and physical perfection. Why not recognize this energy guiding your countrymen and gain a glimpse into true intelligence that allows you to see how a person's personality is constructed based on soul age and incarnations and their manifestations as experiences, repression of emotions, tendencies and fears?

It's not "white bourgeois society" that invented just about everything we use. It's specific white people. An Arabian did give us algebra, that very fundamental tool of mathematics. Calculus came from Leibniz and/or Newton. Newtonian physics came from, well, Newton, who used the writings of those before him like Galileo and Copernicus. It was extended to relativity by various white physicists including Einstein. It was extended to quantum physics by various white physicists including von Heisenberg and (my favorite) Boehm.

William Shockley invented the transistor. He was famously a racist.

Linux was started and project-managed by Linus Torvalds, helped by lots of sharp programmers from various places but never, to my recollection, Africa. I'm just free-associating here, thinking of something and who is responsible for it.

Pick anything, anything at all, and try to find a black who has made a fundamental contribution to it.

Typical eugenicist Swede. If your dumb ass was really as smart as you claim it to be, citing IQ tests (lol), then you would consider some cultural facts, such as

Blacks tend not to give a shit about grammar, unlike whites

Similarly, many blacks just don't give a fuck. ie. when faced with some white dude with glasses presented a test, they're like "aight whateva". Unlike whities they don't place much value on such irrelevant stupidities from which a human being can supposedly be ranked and his/her intelligence sequestered and analyzed. they prefer to live real life, not dwell in intellectual fantasies about a eugenicist's wet dream of utopia where morons (ie. anyone who does something differently) don't exist. yeahh, an IQ test will help you in that direction. lmao

Oh but, shit, you took an IQ test that took two full days to complete... nvm me then.

You only make vague grand-sounding claims as to your intelligence but the substance of your argument shows that you're a fucking idiot who prides himself on highly ethnocentric methods of testing that are themselves created to make people like you feel like your retarded ideologies are grounded in fact and "intelligence".

I am neither black nor white so don't throw that in my face k?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25180110

Intelligence isn't the only thing that makes us human, but it's actually pretty important. It's true most of the population can sit comfortably in a centrally heated/air conditioned room and rage on the internet over how some people have the nerve to be smarter than them, but the fact remains - without those smarter than average, there would be no central heating, no air conditioning, and no internet. It takes intelligence to invent stuff. It also takes intelligence to organize stuff, and to keep stuff chugging along.

The masses possessing average intelligence are free to partake of the fruits of the work of the vastly more intelligent, but a little respect wouldn't hurt. Perhaps even some gratitude would be in order?

Your post literally reeks of hate towards anyone smarter than you. It is immature, and only shows your own poor self image.

It is possible you are actually too dumb to realize how much in your life you owe to more intelligent people than yourself. That's the tragic irony of it all - the dumb are too dumb to realize how dumb they are.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884

Well, clearly, at this point I must ascertain that your mental barrier is the idea that the ideal society is a white(skin and collar color) slave society.

It is obvious to me that you do not believe in any sort of "conspiracy" theories that attempt to identify the real dynamics of our globalized world. Consequently you point to the bourgeois European white lifestyle, marvel at its technological achievements and the like, and determine that it is their culture and race that is supreme. Everyone needs to work towards achieveing such intelligence (enter the ethnocentrism). Yet you fail to realize the reliance on black/brown slave labor. These races represent and manifest the outward physical manifestation of slavery. The white race represents the subtle one, disguised in self-indulgent, unquestioning belief in a dream and its trickle of benefits.

But there's really no point discussing this stuff with you since you're an ardent believer in (lol) the IQ test and everything it stands for.

Why don't you go have fun lobbying for the forced genetic modification (spelled extermination) of black people in your Nazi country? I'm sure you'd receive a sizeable following. Your country has done much worse.

Eugenics represents the negative side of the essence of your particular country's archtypical dream of societal and physical perfection. Why not recognize this energy guiding your countrymen and gain a glimpse into true intelligence that allows you to see how a person's personality is constructed based on soul age and incarnations and their manifestations as experiences, repression of emotions, tendencies and fears?

It's not "white bourgeois society" that invented just about everything we use. It's specific white people. An Arabian did give us algebra, that very fundamental tool of mathematics. Calculus came from Leibniz and/or Newton. Newtonian physics came from, well, Newton, who used the writings of those before him like Galileo and Copernicus. It was extended to relativity by various white physicists including Einstein. It was extended to quantum physics by various white physicists including von Heisenberg and (my favorite) Boehm.

William Shockley invented the transistor. He was famously a racist.

Linux was started and project-managed by Linus Torvalds, helped by lots of sharp programmers from various places but never, to my recollection, Africa. I'm just free-associating here, thinking of something and who is responsible for it.

Pick anything, anything at all, and try to find a black who has made a fundamental contribution to it.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23597994

Well, no shit, Africans had nothing to do with Linux. IT penetration is tiny in Africa, good luck finding programmers there lucky enough to have free time to do volunteer work on an open-source OS. WTF man you clearly didn't absorb my initial reply to the Swede. Neither do you possess the ability to logically analyze such fundamental cultural and historical differences, something you point out as central to your own argument.

Again, do you really think Africans in Africa give two shits about such inventions? They are of the earth, that is their energy. They respect it, unlike (unevolved slave-minded) whites and most have no desire to lead sedentary lifestyles doing programming work lol, contrary to what the MSM may dictate to you about all the beautiful schools being built and how Africans for once look forward to a good future based on mimicking white society.

So in Africa the people don't want stuff like that. Being "of the earth", they have no use for sanitation, television or all the rest.

And indeed if I went into one of the major African cities I would not see cars (old and rusty), televisions (old tube sets), roads, or any of those things not-of-the-earth.

But if they ever cared, they would suddenly show a genius in these areas of current western interest too, it's just that they don't care and prefer living closer to the earth.

Right?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23597994

Of course you would. Just as western nations are forced to deal with their shit, Africans in Africa have to deal with Western shit and become enslaved by it. It's all a learning process, really. Figure out the other culture's strengths and weaknesses and synergize.

Television fulfills a certain desire to (usually) escape your surroundings and immerse yourself in a different world. It is up to white race to invent this and up to the African to see how it is inevitably inferior to the Earth and joy visible outside the window.

The cultures of the world work in this way, exposing each other's weaknesses and strenghts.

The utopia the eugenicist Swede alludes to will only arrive once these cultural battles have been played out.

So in Africa the people don't want stuff like that. Being "of the earth", they have no use for sanitation, television or all the rest.

And indeed if I went into one of the major African cities I would not see cars (old and rusty), televisions (old tube sets), roads, or any of those things not-of-the-earth.

But if they ever cared, they would suddenly show a genius in these areas of current western interest too, it's just that they don't care and prefer living closer to the earth.

Right?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23597994

Of course you would. Just as western nations are forced to deal with Africans' shit, Africans in Africa have to deal with Western shit and become enslaved by it. It's all a learning process, really. Figure out the other culture's strengths and weaknesses and synergize.

Television fulfills a certain desire to (usually) escape your surroundings and immerse yourself in a different world. It is up to white race to invent this and up to the African to see how it is inevitably inferior to the Earth and joy visible outside the window.

The cultures of the world work in this way, exposing each other's weaknesses and strenghts.

The utopia the eugenicist Swede alludes to will only arrive once these cultural battles have been played out.

Well I don't think we're forcing the Africans to use cars and TV's so hopefully those people can return soon to the joy right outside their window (if glass isn't too high-tech) and leave us in peace over here.

Maybe some African genius will come up with an all-natural way to increase the comfort and convenience of people-of-the-earth living close to the earth.

Waiting. Anyway I wish them the best and I wish them their own society. They aren't very comfortable or helpful in ours.

its really funny because anytime you guys try to claim egyptians as white, you guys always bring up tut lol. YOu guys base your whole theory off of one pharoah, when all the monuments around you are showing black men. But you guys have a tendency to blow our noses off, just to make it even harder to decipher who we are. Does the sphinx come to mind?

CLICK CLICK, BOOM seems to be the m.o. when you come upon our monuments.

this is like the stupidest comment i have ever read, blow off nose of the sphinx to disguise black features? are you a prime example of your race?

i am guessing that you think race is determined by skin color alone? i guess that's why i feel like i am banging my head against a brick wall trying explain why the ancient egyptians were not black people.

the race known as caucasoid is found in Europe, northern africa, the middle east and in northern india. it is characterized by pale pink to very dark brown skin, they are fairly tall in stature, with a long or broad head form and the nose bridge is HIGH. the hair can be light blond, brown, black, or red and of a FINE TEXTURE, STRAIGHT or WAVY.

the negroid race is characterized by brown to brown-black skin, usually a long head form, varying stature, and thick, everted lips. the hair is dark and COARSE, usually KINKY. the eyes are dark, the nose bridge is LOW, and the nostrils broad. to the negroid race belong the peoples of africa south of the sahara, the pygmy groups of indonesia, and the inhabitants of new guinea and melanesia.

when facial reconstruction is done on the pharaonic mummies, guess what they fit the exact description of the caucasoid, and NOT that of a negroid each and every time. anthropology is your friend and it takes a lot more than skin color to determine who is caucasoid and who is negroid.

A Jewish mother dreams that her son will grow up to be a doctor or, if retarded, a lawyer." --Jackie Mason

" I'm Jewish. I don't work out. If God had wanted us to bend over, He would have put diamonds on the floor." -- Joan Rivers

Fortunately, this view can be tested. Does our view of reality and science allow us to build stuff that works. Like:

long high bridges over rivers and valleyscomputerstransistorsairplanessatellites1000+ foot high buildingstelevisionsradios

and so on and so on. Now to me, the ability to apply our principles, our view of reality, and build STUFF THAT WORKS means there's a lot right with our view of things.

Now what are the accomplishments that come with YOUR view of things and science?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23597994

Can you build a pyramid today to the scale, size, precision, alignment with stars etc. I think not! You guys even tried and failed.

That science was lost or hidden for a reason my friend. Because if whitey had his hands on it, this planet would not be here or it would be in ruin, like it already isn't almost there.

All of your modern technology and gadgets and what not would not be here without the foundation of science and math, which was taught to you by none other than black people aka moors. The art of masonrry, again black people. Before the moors came into europe you guys were in a dark age! After you kicked us out, all of a sudden you guys have a renaissance? now I wonder how did that happen?

YOu guys had the great Roman civilization and still fell back into savagry after it fell. I would think after rulling for a thousand years, you guys would maintained some civility but I guess not.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18200348

are you claiming that blacks built the pyramids? yea, i know rearend al sharpton promotes that ridiculous claim but is that what you are claiming?

while you are at it could you take a trip into our inner cities and teach the inhabitants what it's like to be civilized, they seem to have missed class that day.

Quoting: davvi

Egypt is in Africa, dark people are in Africa--- Anything with melanin on this planet came from a source, and that source was very black my friend. White people have no melanin, and show up on the record 10,000 years ago. Africans were the creators are civilization, and we exported our knowledge around the world. That's why the Mayans worshiped Gods with black features. Our civilization was a PAN civilization... it was everywhere!

History books tell a different story, and start black history at the "WE ARE SLAVES" chapter of our story, and that's just completely unfair to the truth.

Can you build a pyramid today to the scale, size, precision, alignment with stars etc. I think not! You guys even tried and failed.

That science was lost or hidden for a reason my friend. Because if whitey had his hands on it, this planet would not be here or it would be in ruin, like it already isn't almost there.

All of your modern technology and gadgets and what not would not be here without the foundation of science and math, which was taught to you by none other than black people aka moors. The art of masonrry, again black people. Before the moors came into europe you guys were in a dark age! After you kicked us out, all of a sudden you guys have a renaissance? now I wonder how did that happen?

YOu guys had the great Roman civilization and still fell back into savagry after it fell. I would think after rulling for a thousand years, you guys would maintained some civility but I guess not.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18200348

are you claiming that blacks built the pyramids? yea, i know rearend al sharpton promotes that ridiculous claim but is that what you are claiming?

while you are at it could you take a trip into our inner cities and teach the inhabitants what it's like to be civilized, they seem to have missed class that day.

Quoting: davvi

Egypt is in Africa, dark people are in Africa--- Anything with melanin on this planet came from a source, and that source was very black my friend. White people have no melanin, and show up on the record 10,000 years ago. Africans were the creators are civilization, and we exported our knowledge around the world. That's why the Mayans worshiped Gods with black features. Our civilization was a PAN civilization... it was everywhere!

History books tell a different story, and start black history at the "WE ARE SLAVES" chapter of our story, and that's just completely unfair to the truth.

The Soros, busheez, CFR globalist machine is crafting one episode after another to pit blacks against whites and vice versa. Many of these "gangs" are being sponsored by clandestine frontmen working for the machine. how many ranting and raving goons do you think it takes to encite rightly frustrated, out of work, hungry, pissed off black guys to instigate some retribution on their historical enemy - whitey? not many.

and then the white clans will have to smack down the blacks to prove their point, ever escalating the loonesy, all of which serves the purpose of the elites that want us all dead and gone anyway.

People need to read your history, and understand what they are doing. they want war in Syria, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, northern Africa, Central and South America, AND right here in the USA. The globalists care not one f&*king wit about this country or any country. They only care about $$$$$$$$$ and the Power it gives them to play the games they love to play.

So don't play their games. If you are pissed off, go hit a banker upside his boney head. Then everyone is happy. It ain't a color thing.

are you claiming that blacks built the pyramids? yea, i know rearend al sharpton promotes that ridiculous claim but is that what you are claiming?

while you are at it could you take a trip into our inner cities and teach the inhabitants what it's like to be civilized, they seem to have missed class that day.

Quoting: davvi

Egypt is in Africa, dark people are in Africa--- Anything with melanin on this planet came from a source, and that source was very black my friend. White people have no melanin, and show up on the record 10,000 years ago. Africans were the creators are civilization, and we exported our knowledge around the world. That's why the Mayans worshiped Gods with black features. Our civilization was a PAN civilization... it was everywhere!

History books tell a different story, and start black history at the "WE ARE SLAVES" chapter of our story, and that's just completely unfair to the truth.

Egypt is in Africa, dark people are in Africa--- Anything with melanin on this planet came from a source, and that source was very black my friend. White people have no melanin, and show up on the record 10,000 years ago. Africans were the creators are civilization, and we exported our knowledge around the world. That's why the Mayans worshiped Gods with black features. Our civilization was a PAN civilization... it was everywhere!

History books tell a different story, and start black history at the "WE ARE SLAVES" chapter of our story, and that's just completely unfair to the truth.

its really funny because anytime you guys try to claim egyptians as white, you guys always bring up tut lol. YOu guys base your whole theory off of one pharoah, when all the monuments around you are showing black men. But you guys have a tendency to blow our noses off, just to make it even harder to decipher who we are. Does the sphinx come to mind?

CLICK CLICK, BOOM seems to be the m.o. when you come upon our monuments.

this is like the stupidest comment i have ever read, blow off nose of the sphinx to disguise black features? are you a prime example of your race?

i am guessing that you think race is determined by skin color alone? i guess that's why i feel like i am banging my head against a brick wall trying explain why the ancient egyptians were not black people.

the race known as caucasoid is found in Europe, northern africa, the middle east and in northern india. it is characterized by pale pink to very dark brown skin, they are fairly tall in stature, with a long or broad head form and the nose bridge is HIGH. the hair can be light blond, brown, black, or red and of a FINE TEXTURE, STRAIGHT or WAVY.

the negroid race is characterized by brown to brown-black skin, usually a long head form, varying stature, and thick, everted lips. the hair is dark and COARSE, usually KINKY. the eyes are dark, the nose bridge is LOW, and the nostrils broad. to the negroid race belong the peoples of africa south of the sahara, the pygmy groups of indonesia, and the inhabitants of new guinea and melanesia.

when facial reconstruction is done on the pharaonic mummies, guess what they fit the exact description of the caucasoid, and NOT that of a negroid each and every time. anthropology is your friend and it takes a lot more than skin color to determine who is caucasoid and who is negroid.

its really funny because anytime you guys try to claim egyptians as white, you guys always bring up tut lol. YOu guys base your whole theory off of one pharoah, when all the monuments around you are showing black men. But you guys have a tendency to blow our noses off, just to make it even harder to decipher who we are. Does the sphinx come to mind?

CLICK CLICK, BOOM seems to be the m.o. when you come upon our monuments.

this is like the stupidest comment i have ever read, blow off nose of the sphinx to disguise black features? are you a prime example of your race?

i am guessing that you think race is determined by skin color alone? i guess that's why i feel like i am banging my head against a brick wall trying explain why the ancient egyptians were not black people.

the race known as caucasoid is found in Europe, northern africa, the middle east and in northern india. it is characterized by pale pink to very dark brown skin, they are fairly tall in stature, with a long or broad head form and the nose bridge is HIGH. the hair can be light blond, brown, black, or red and of a FINE TEXTURE, STRAIGHT or WAVY.

the negroid race is characterized by brown to brown-black skin, usually a long head form, varying stature, and thick, everted lips. the hair is dark and COARSE, usually KINKY. the eyes are dark, the nose bridge is LOW, and the nostrils broad. to the negroid race belong the peoples of africa south of the sahara, the pygmy groups of indonesia, and the inhabitants of new guinea and melanesia.

when facial reconstruction is done on the pharaonic mummies, guess what they fit the exact description of the caucasoid, and NOT that of a negroid each and every time. anthropology is your friend and it takes a lot more than skin color to determine who is caucasoid and who is negroid.

historical facts? look at their wall art created thousands of years ago with no racial agenda. the ancients clearly knew the difference between themselves and their southern neighbors. countless of DNA tests on pre-historic and historic skeletons have produced the same West European DNA type R1b, which has no connection at all to black Africans or Asians.

look at their art. it is the very best recording of ancient history ever done prior to the written word. in general they are very slim hipped, broad shoulders and oval faces with long straight noses. notice the egyptian women did not sport the fat asses like their sisters to the south. personally i take their word for how they looked more than i would some black activist desperate to steal some kind contribution to civilization.

look at egyptian wall art depicting military victories on tribes in the south. blacks are always depicted with flat noses, large lips and black skin, totally different from the average egyptian.

the egyptians arrived in the nile valley from the NORTH and spread to the red sea in the east. they moved south to the cataract of aswan which for thousands of years served as the natural border separating caucasians from the black inhabitants to the south.

try as you may, dna doesn't lie, you can shake up a story, spout all kinds of crap, but the facts will always prove you wrong.

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This is from your so called father of history Herodotus (white guy), "the histories."

The Greek historian Herodotus specifically uses it to describe all of Sub-Saharan Africa.

The Latin name Libya referred to the region west of the Nile Valley, generally corresponding to modern Northwest Africa.

[2.104] There can be no doubt that the Colchians are an Egyptian race. My own conjectures were founded, first, on the fact that they are black-skinned and have woolly hair, which certainly amounts to but little, since several other nations are so too. But further and more especially, on the circumstance that the Colchians, the Egyptians, and the Ethiopians (here he is talking Nubians), are the only nations who have practised circumcision from the earliest times.

[7.70] The eastern Ethiopians - for two nations of this name served in the army - were marshalled with the Indians. They differed in nothing from the other Ethiopians, save in their language, and the character of their hair. For the eastern Ethiopians have straight hair, while they of Libya (here he is talking about ALL of Africa) are more woolly-haired than any other people in the world.

This is from your so called father of history Herodotus (white guy), "the histories."

The Greek historian Herodotus specifically uses it to describe all of Sub-Saharan Africa.

The Latin name Libya referred to the region west of the Nile Valley, generally corresponding to modern Northwest Africa.

[2.104] There can be no doubt that the Colchians are an Egyptian race. My own conjectures were founded, first, on the fact that they are black-skinned and have woolly hair, which certainly amounts to but little, since several other nations are so too. But further and more especially, on the circumstance that the Colchians, the Egyptians, and the Ethiopians (here he is talking Nubians), are the only nations who have practised circumcision from the earliest times.

[7.70] The eastern Ethiopians - for two nations of this name served in the army - were marshalled with the Indians. They differed in nothing from the other Ethiopians, save in their language, and the character of their hair. For the eastern Ethiopians have straight hair, while they of Libya (here he is talking about ALL of Africa) are more woolly-haired than any other people in the world.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18200348

Now who I am to believe? Some racist, biased arab (zahi) or a person who was actually there? lol

This is from your so called father of history Herodotus (white guy), "the histories."

The Greek historian Herodotus specifically uses it to describe all of Sub-Saharan Africa.

The Latin name Libya referred to the region west of the Nile Valley, generally corresponding to modern Northwest Africa.

[2.104] There can be no doubt that the Colchians are an Egyptian race. My own conjectures were founded, first, on the fact that they are black-skinned and have woolly hair, which certainly amounts to but little, since several other nations are so too. But further and more especially, on the circumstance that the Colchians, the Egyptians, and the Ethiopians (here he is talking Nubians), are the only nations who have practised circumcision from the earliest times.

[7.70] The eastern Ethiopians - for two nations of this name served in the army - were marshalled with the Indians. They differed in nothing from the other Ethiopians, save in their language, and the character of their hair. For the eastern Ethiopians have straight hair, while they of Libya (here he is talking about ALL of Africa) are more woolly-haired than any other people in the world.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18200348

Now who I am to believe? Some racist, biased arab (zahi) or a person who was actually there? lol

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18200348

zahi hawass isn't a racist he is an expert. obviously anyone who does not agree with you is a racist? lol, why would he not claim his blackness? what does he hope to gain from denying it?

he denies it because it isn't true and not even your faulty translation from herodotus will make it so. you are basing your supposition on the word melanchroes which some claim means black is faulty because the term was also used to describe skin from black to dark tanned skin tones while it actually means 'dark.' to the invading paler skinned romans or the paler skinned greeks i have no doubt that the egyptians seemed 'darker' than they.

you quote herodotus, and i could quote dozens of others who contradict him, such as Manilius, Astronomica 4.724, Arrian, Indica 6.9, Strabo, Geography 15.1.13, Xenpohanes, Ammianus Marcellinus, Flavius Philostratus: c.170 to c.247, to name a few. but even if you can't bring yourself to believe eyewitnesses and dna then perhaps you will accept the differences depicted in the ancient wall art which i provide here. the ancient egyptians clearly knew the differences between themselves and their neighbors.

the negroid race can lay no claim to the greatness of the ancient egyptian civilization. as a white person i make no claim to it either because it was theirs, uniquely theirs, and i am content for it to be so, invent your own history if you need the self-esteem boost but leave theirs alone.

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from left to right,

nehesy -- black inhabitants further south in Africa below today's province of Nubia.

romut - themselves, the farmers, hunters and fishermen living in the Nile Valley.

aamu - Asians (and people in the east mountains, usually dressed like Egyptians).

temehu - libyans, from the coastal area in north-west and western desert, having swanky dresses, fair skin and tribe mark tattoos, seen also on egyptians, even today.

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