All Discussions Tagged 'fundies' - Atheist Nexus2015-03-03T19:52:45Zhttp://www.atheistnexus.org/forum/topic/listForTag?tag=fundies&feed=yes&xn_auth=noMy three favorite fun questions to pose to fundie theiststag:www.atheistnexus.org,2009-08-07:2182797:Topic:4498852009-08-07T00:47:13.811Zdromedaryhumphttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/dromedaryhump
I've always enjoyed posing questions to fundie theists that cause them to have to think, a novel experience for many of them.<br />
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Not suggesting these are original, or new ... but they rarely fail to get a fun discussion going. Here are my three favs in no particular order:<br />
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1. If God created man in his "image," and if by image it means physical likeness, then what does God use his penis for, and on whom?<br />
If by image it means character, since adam and eve were capable of both sin and deception,…
I've always enjoyed posing questions to fundie theists that cause them to have to think, a novel experience for many of them.<br />
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Not suggesting these are original, or new ... but they rarely fail to get a fun discussion going. Here are my three favs in no particular order:<br />
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1. If God created man in his "image," and if by image it means physical likeness, then what does God use his penis for, and on whom?<br />
If by image it means character, since adam and eve were capable of both sin and deception, then God could not be perfectly good since he would share the characteristic of being sinful and deceptive.<br />
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2. If God created all living things, then he created bacteria and virus for a purpose. By curing / destroying these creations isn't man destroying that which God created and defying God's will?<br />
And by being innoculated against them, or by using anti-biotics aren't Christians pitting themselves against God's divine plan?<br />
And if you claim God gives man the ability to cure these diseases, how come Jerry Lewis is still raising money to find a cure for Muscular Dystrophy, after 50 years and God doesn't want to give us the answer to the common cold?<br />
And why does God keep creating new diseases to replace the ones he gives us cures for?<br />
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3. If God created Earth, and he is omnicient, he must have known that hurricanes, typhoons, earthquakes, et al would killl his innocent and faithful creations. If he knew and still created the earth to allow those things then he is not omnibenevolent, he is malevolent. If he did it by by accident he is not omnicient. If he can't stop them, eliminate them he is not omnipotent. If he can stop it but won't isn't that an indicator he is one evil piece of shit, and no better than Shiva the Destroyer?<br />
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My experience is they will excuse themselves and try and find a satisfactory retort from some apologetics site... with terrible results; or they will wing it and invent scripture/doctrine (i.e. "Satan is a creator of bacteria and virus."); or they revert to a completely irrelevant platitude (i.e. "God is good, and this is a wonderful world.")<br />
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Try it, see what you get.<br />
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Hump<br />
<a href="http://atheistcamel.blogspot.com/">http://atheistcamel.blogspot.com/</a> God-Groupiestag:www.atheistnexus.org,2009-03-29:2182797:Topic:2667572009-03-29T19:06:14.173ZStephen Goldinhttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/StephenGoldin
There are sober, thoughtful people who happen to believe in a god. We call them Theists, and we can disagree with them in a civilized manner without any need for name-calling.<br />
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But fundamentalists are neither civilized nor thoughtful. They come in all denominations--christians, jews, muslims, hindus, and so forth. The underlying dogmas may vary, but they're all characterized by a single belief set: They are right, everyone else is wrong, and no one else has a right to their own personal…
There are sober, thoughtful people who happen to believe in a god. We call them Theists, and we can disagree with them in a civilized manner without any need for name-calling.<br />
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But fundamentalists are neither civilized nor thoughtful. They come in all denominations--christians, jews, muslims, hindus, and so forth. The underlying dogmas may vary, but they're all characterized by a single belief set: They are right, everyone else is wrong, and no one else has a right to their own personal beliefs. Their religion is Intolerance, and they distinguish themselves with their lack of respect.<br />
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I've noticed that, in A|N, we tend to call them "fundies." I think this is a misnomer. First and foremost, it implies there's something "fun" about them. In point of fact, fundamentalists are the exact opposite of fun. If they have any sense of humor at all, it's the stunted kind that delight in placing a banana peel on the sidewalk so people can trip on it. "Fundies" might also mislead some people into thinking they have some connection to a very spectacular bay in Canada.<br />
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I think a better term is "god-groupies." Like rock band groupies, they follow their chosen idols around wherever they lead--no matter how drunk, drugged out or crazy they [the idols] might be. They do whatever their idols say and take their word as gospel. They memorize any slight pronouncements coming from their idols' lips. And often they can turn on a dime and switch over to some new idol without warning. Although they might be rational people in other circumstances, they lose all sense of reason when it comes to the objects of their fixations.<br />
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Yeah, I think "god-groupie" is a much better term.... More fundie madnesstag:www.atheistnexus.org,2009-02-12:2182797:Topic:2221622009-02-12T13:01:15.154ZDoughttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/Doug
A local fundie preacher has blamed the recent Australian bushfires in Abortions and says the death and destruction are "Gods Punishment"<br />
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There is a comments section on his churches web page if you feel like telling him just what a sicko he is.<br />
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<a href="http://catchthefire.com.au/blog/2009/02/12/blame-the-apocalypse-on-climate-change-or-abortions/">http://catchthefire.com.au/blog/2009/02/12/blame-the-apocalypse-on-climate-change-or-abortions/</a><br />
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Pastor Danny Nalliah, in a Catch the Fire…</i>
A local fundie preacher has blamed the recent Australian bushfires in Abortions and says the death and destruction are "Gods Punishment"<br />
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There is a comments section on his churches web page if you feel like telling him just what a sicko he is.<br />
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<a href="http://catchthefire.com.au/blog/2009/02/12/blame-the-apocalypse-on-climate-change-or-abortions/">http://catchthefire.com.au/blog/2009/02/12/blame-the-apocalypse-on-climate-change-or-abortions/</a><br />
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Pastor Danny Nalliah, in a Catch the Fire Ministries press release, yesterday blamed the bushfires on terminations<br />
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PASTOR Danny Nalliah was not surprised by the bushfires due to a dream he had last October relating to consequences of the abortion laws passed in Victoria. He said these bushfires have come as a result of the incendiary abortion laws which decimate life in the womb. CTFM has called on all Australian Bible-believing, God-fearing Christians to repent and call upon the Lord Jesus Christ for his mercy and protection over Australia once again. “Yesterday (Monday) the front page of the Herald Sun newspaper reported ‘the darkest hour’ for Victoria. A few months ago the news media should have reported the darkest hour for the unborn, but unfortunately the decriminalisation of abortion bill went through parliament and was passed, thus making many people call Victoria the baby-killing state of Australia,” Mr Nalliah said. “In my dream I saw fire everywhere, with flames burning very high and uncontrollably. With this I woke up from my dream with the interpretation as the following words came to me in a flash from the spirit of God. That his conditional protection has been removed from the nation of Australia, in particular Victoria, for approving the slaughter of innocent children in the womb. “Can we stop the fires? Yes we can! But it will take God’s children to rally together and repent and cry unto him as in 2 Chronicles 7:14 (The Holy Bible).”</i><br />
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The concept of a preacher saying his God uses criminal arsonists to carry out his will is just astounding to me ! :-( Tolerancetag:www.atheistnexus.org,2009-02-06:2182797:Topic:2164452009-02-06T00:26:38.648ZJames M. Martinhttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/JamesMMartin
The local C.C. Atheist group posted at their website a report on picketing of the Westboro Baptist Church of the Unholy <s>Rectum</s> er, Rev. Phred Phelps, the guy who actually pickets military burials of Iraqi War vets and dreamed up the slogan, "God Hates Fags." In my readings of the so-called New Atheists, and especially Sam Harris, and in Harris' online debates with the likes of Andrew Sullivan, I debated with myself the conclusion he reached with regard to tolerance. That is, tolerance of…
The local C.C. Atheist group posted at their website a report on picketing of the Westboro Baptist Church of the Unholy <s>Rectum</s> er, Rev. Phred Phelps, the guy who actually pickets military burials of Iraqi War vets and dreamed up the slogan, "God Hates Fags." In my readings of the so-called New Atheists, and especially Sam Harris, and in Harris' online debates with the likes of Andrew Sullivan, I debated with myself the conclusion he reached with regard to tolerance. That is, tolerance of mainstream, non-fundamentalist, non-evangelical Christers. Harris treats this so-called normal Christer group as equally and perhaps most assuredly guilty of propagating the God Delusion.<br />
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At the time, I didn't quite "grok" Harris' position, but people like Phelps ram it home. The Phelpses of this world are no different from the Robertsons, the Falwells, the Hagees, et al. in the sense that the mainstream religious bigots allow them to blather on about post hoc events like the destruction of New Orleans by Katrina "because of homosexuals" held a Gay Pride parade. Sullivan begged Harris to give the mainstream Christers a break, pointing to charitable works, &amp;c. (as if atheists never contribute to charities). Seems to me, if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem. Or, to use a word from the A.A., the mainstreamers are the <i>enablers</i>. Bible College Storiestag:www.atheistnexus.org,2008-08-04:2182797:Topic:693362008-08-04T12:32:09.720ZDanny Fergusonhttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/DannyFerguson
Some of my friends went to Bible college and really regretted it. I'd like kids to have both sides of the story before choosing to go to a BC. I'm collecting stories from people who tried it on <a href="http://biblecollegestories.com">BibleCollegeStories.com</a>. If you have a story, please submit it. If you know a kid thinking about going to a Bible college, please send them to this site.
Some of my friends went to Bible college and really regretted it. I'd like kids to have both sides of the story before choosing to go to a BC. I'm collecting stories from people who tried it on <a href="http://biblecollegestories.com">BibleCollegeStories.com</a>. If you have a story, please submit it. If you know a kid thinking about going to a Bible college, please send them to this site.