WilliamJanuary 10th The Duke of Cambridge, President of @royalmarsdenNHS, will visit the Trust’s facilities in Chelsea to view two pioneering robotic surgeries.

Kate January 10th The Duchess of Cambridge will visit Reach Academy Feltham to see their work with @Place2Be supporting children and families in the school.

William and KateJanuary 16th The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are in Coventry on will visit Coventry Cathedral, Coventry University and The Positive Youth Foundation.

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WilliamJanuary 10th The Duke of Cambridge, President of @royalmarsdenNHS, will visit the Trust’s facilities in Chelsea to view two pioneering robotic surgeries.January 10 The Duke of Cambridge will meet with @theCALMzone staff, volunteers and supporters to support their new campaign the 'Best Man Project' #bestmanproject

KateJanuary 10th The Duchess of Cambridge will visit Reach Academy Feltham to see their work with @Place2Be supporting children and families in the school.January 17 The Duchess of Cambridge will visit @GreatOrmondSt on to officially open the Mittal Children's Medical Centre, home to the new Premier Inn Clinical Building.January 17 The Duchess of Cambridge, Patron of @Wimbledon, will visit Bond Primary School in Mitcham to see the work of the Wimbledon Junior Tennis Initiative.

William and KateJanuary 16th The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are in Coventry on will visit Coventry Cathedral, Coventry University and The Positive Youth Foundation.

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So that's 2 engagements for each of them in 16 days. Not a good start to 2018.

The CC also reports William receiving the out-going and incoming new Colonels of the Irish Guards along with two engagements on 10th - so three done and more to come.

Charles and Andrew are still on zero for the year with Andrew having nothing notified anywhere from now until the end of February and Charles with two engagements - according to his own website at the end of January and that is all for January.

The problem is that the Wales branch don't announce their outside the palace engagements all that regularly in advance and those done inside - such as the one William did with the Irish Guards aren't publicised at all - other than in the CC and thus they get missed by those who rely on twitter or personal websites.

Anne has been the busiest royal so far with 8 engagements in the first 11 days of the year. William has done 3, Kate 2 and Harry 1 so far. (Interestingly Meghan appeared in the Future Engagements before the visit to the radio station but then wasn't listed in the CC after the event. She is also listed for the away day to Wales so it will be interesting to see if she makes the CC before the wedding - she shouldn't - Kate certainly didn't although she did do some things with William).

WilliamJanuary 9 The Duke of Cambridge, Colonel, Irish Guards, this morning received Colonel Tim PurdonJanuary 10th The Duke of Cambridge, President of @royalmarsdenNHS, will visit the Trust’s facilities in Chelsea to view two pioneering robotic surgeries.January 10 The Duke of Cambridge will meet with @theCALMzone staff, volunteers and supporters to support their new campaign the 'Best Man Project' #bestmanprojectJanuary 18 The Duke of Cambridge will be visiting @EvelinaLondon children's hospitalJanuary 23 The Duke of Cambridge will deliver the keynote speech at the @ChtyCommission Annual Public Meeting

KateJanuary 10th The Duchess of Cambridge will visit Reach Academy Feltham to see their work with @Place2Be supporting children and families in the school.January 11 Anna Freud National Centre for Children and Families, today attended the HeadStart Conference January 17 The Duchess of Cambridge will visit @GreatOrmondSt on to officially open the Mittal Children's Medical Centre, home to the new Premier Inn Clinical Building.January 17 The Duchess of Cambridge, Patron of @Wimbledon, will visit Bond Primary School in Mitcham to see the work of the Wimbledon Junior Tennis Initiative.

William and KateJanuary 16th The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are in Coventry on will visit Coventry Cathedral, Coventry University and The Positive Youth Foundation.

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My point is that at this time of the year two of the three hardest working royals - Charles and Andrew - have not yet done any duties but no one doubts that they are full-time royals. However they are attacking William and Kate - but not Harry - who currently have done more than most of the family.

How long they will keep this up we will have to wait and see but I do think that barely two weeks into the year it is a bit hard to condemn them when they are actually already doing engagements while others have yet to do any.

Looking ahead - Charles has two announced engagements for the entirety of January and the first I can find for Andrew for the year is 18th April. Of course both will do more than that but judging by what has already been announced rarely comes up with what they do.

We know Kate will have to have a most of March, April, May and June off - and probably July with the new baby. As they royals do virtually nothing in August and September she will be able to basically have off from March to September.

I am prepared to wait until the end of the year to judge whether William, in particular, has started to step up into his future role or whether he is going to stick to the around 200 engagement mark. I hope he will be around the 300 to 350 mark - approaching his uncles' numbers - but not approaching his father's or aunt's for another year or two.

The problem is that William, Kate and Harry don't want to do the openings etc that Anne does but think they can do a better job with fewer patronages and concentrate on a few causes for three to five years and then change to other causes ... time will tell whether they can keep that up or whether they will have to resort to the way Charles and Anne have done things with 100s of patronages and an engagement every two or three years for many of those patronages ... or whether an approach like Andrew, with Pitch@Palace or Edward with Duke of Edinburgh Awards should be the way to do - one large focus with a number of other patronages.

I agree that there should be fewer working royals - and in time that will happen.

Personally I would limit the working family to the monarch and spouse, heir apparent and spouse and heir apparent's heir apparent and spouse as a maximum of six and none of the others undertake royal duties, have royal protection or any of the other perks but are expected to earn a living and pay their own way. That to me would see Harry on down working in real jobs and not receiving anything from the public purse. It wouldn't be fair to turn around to those who have been spending their lives doing royal duties to cut them dead but in time make it so that Charlotte and her new sibling are told from very early that they will have to earn their own living as they won't be doing royal duties - don't wait until they are at university as happened with Beatrice but she should be being told now that she will have to work for a living like other family members and not do royal duties like Mummy and Daddy do.

Lol, I have worked 9 days so far this year and January 17th I will be on day 12. I have 9-hour shifts (8 hours of work, 1 hour for lunch) and I think these people's "engagements" can sometimes last an hour or less. And to think these people get millions of pounds a year in taxpayer funds, duchy money, etc.?

Prince Charles will be 70 this year, Camilla is 70, and Princess Anne is 67 going on 68. Considering they are past pensioner age (62?), I think they can be forgiven for not doing as much as they did when they were younger.

William, Kate, Harry and Meghan need to step up their game, IMO. Same with Prince Andrew, Prince Edward and Sophie. Beatrice and Eugenie should get full-time jobs and can maybe do charity appearances on weekends and special occasions.

My point is that at this time of the year two of the three hardest working royals - Charles and Andrew - have not yet done any duties but no one doubts that they are full-time royals. However they are attacking William and Kate - but not Harry - who currently have done more than most of the family.

How long they will keep this up we will have to wait and see but I do think that barely two weeks into the year it is a bit hard to condemn them when they are actually already doing engagements while others have yet to do any.

Looking ahead - Charles has two announced engagements for the entirety of January and the first I can find for Andrew for the year is 18th April. Of course both will do more than that but judging by what has already been announced rarely comes up with what they do.

We know Kate will have to have a most of March, April, May and June off - and probably July with the new baby. As they royals do virtually nothing in August and September she will be able to basically have off from March to September.

I am prepared to wait until the end of the year to judge whether William, in particular, has started to step up into his future role or whether he is going to stick to the around 200 engagement mark. I hope he will be around the 300 to 350 mark - approaching his uncles' numbers - but not approaching his father's or aunt's for another year or two.

The problem is that William, Kate and Harry don't want to do the openings etc that Anne does but think they can do a better job with fewer patronages and concentrate on a few causes for three to five years and then change to other causes ... time will tell whether they can keep that up or whether they will have to resort to the way Charles and Anne have done things with 100s of patronages and an engagement every two or three years for many of those patronages ... or whether an approach like Andrew, with Pitch@Palace or Edward with Duke of Edinburgh Awards should be the way to do - one large focus with a number of other patronages.

I agree that there should be fewer working royals - and in time that will happen.

Personally I would limit the working family to the monarch and spouse, heir apparent and spouse and heir apparent's heir apparent and spouse as a maximum of six and none of the others undertake royal duties, have royal protection or any of the other perks but are expected to earn a living and pay their own way. That to me would see Harry on down working in real jobs and not receiving anything from the public purse. It wouldn't be fair to turn around to those who have been spending their lives doing royal duties to cut them dead but in time make it so that Charlotte and her new sibling are told from very early that they will have to earn their own living as they won't be doing royal duties - don't wait until they are at university as happened with Beatrice but she should be being told now that she will have to work for a living like other family members and not do royal duties like Mummy and Daddy do.

Why should Harry cut royal duties for a "real job?" And what "real job"? He is the second son (of only two children) of the Prince of Wales and the late Diana Princess of Wales. He was born with HRH and title of Prince unlike his cousin who was titled Master Peter Phillips. If Harry decided to work in a "real job?" (again doing what?) he would still need security since when he served in the military was targeted by terrorists. He is in his thirties now. Charlotte and George are tots now so can't work. So Harry needs to take up the slack. I don't see why William and Kate's family should be split between the Heir (with the HRH and title) and the others. Charlotte already is an HRH Princess and the new one will have royal titles. So they should work. They get the perks and would need to give back. I think the cutting back might occur in future generations but I disagree that those with the titles should be "demoted." I think if a senior royal has a family (heir or heir to the heir) it should be all or nothing, either all get the HRH Prince or Princess or none of them do. Having only the eldest have it and the others "commoners" would IMO be confusing and perhaps give the younger ones inferiority complexes. They are still siblings in a family. The "heir" has a special role but would grow up in a family of siblings.

I think there is no reason why Bea and Eugenie should not work. The elders are Charles (70 this year), Camilla (who has low work numbers and is 71 this year) and the Queen (92 this year) and PHilip (retired) so the younger ones can take up the slack.

Charles made it clear that Harry will indeed be part of the scaled down monarchy.

Kate did not do much before the babies came. So there is not much change for her.

What’s wrong with getting a real career or job? How is that cause for an inferiority complex? That’s how this world works, not in some rarefied atmosphere. There are amazing opportunities for any of these royals if they only knew what work was. It’s freeing, not scary or beneath anyone. It’s also honest and no amount of special perks compares to a feeling of personal accomplishment through steady commitment and some self denial.

This lazy structured, show up and look busy has had its day and simply doesn’t cut it in this climate. Not without outstanding respect and admiration which is wilting quickly, to me.

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Lol, I have worked 9 days so far this year and January 17th I will be on day 12. I have 9-hour shifts (8 hours of work, 1 hour for lunch) and I think these people's "engagements" can sometimes last an hour or less. And to think these people get millions of pounds a year in taxpayer funds, duchy money, etc.?

Prince Charles will be 70 this year, Camilla is 70, and Princess Anne is 67 going on 68. Considering they are past pensioner age (62?), I think they can be forgiven for not doing as much as they did when they were younger.

William, Kate, Harry and Meghan need to step up their game, IMO. Same with Prince Andrew, Prince Edward and Sophie. Beatrice and Eugenie should get full-time jobs and can maybe do charity appearances on weekends and special occasions.

Eugenie has a full-time job and has had one since leaving university. She is often seen overseas but ... her job involves going to art auctions etc around the world so she is often seen at a restaurant or somewhere else and the media assume she is on 'holiday' when she is in the town or city to look at the available art for the 'art house' where she works or for a specific client of that house.

Beatrice is different - she has moved from job to job - having not been told until she was already at university that she was not going to be like Princess Alexandra. She was told not long after William and Kate announced their engagement that she wasn't going that route. She does more charity work than her sister and seems to be moving more towards doing that as a private royal but not on the public payroll - e.g. last year she attended one official royal engagement - a garden party while Eugenie did two.

Andrew is the third hardest working royal now with over 300 engagements a year. Edward is just behind him. Some years they are both closer to 400 while last year it was the 300 mark.

The only royals who have consistently topped 400 over the past four decades are Philip, Anne and Charles.

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Why should Harry cut royal duties for a "real job?" And what "real job"? He is the second son (of only two children) of the Prince of Wales and the late Diana Princess of Wales. He was born with HRH and title of Prince unlike his cousin who was titled Master Peter Phillips. If Harry decided to work in a "real job?" (again doing what?) he would still need security since when he served in the military was targeted by terrorists. He is in his thirties now. Charlotte and George are tots now so can't work. So Harry needs to take up the slack. I don't see why William and Kate's family should be split between the Heir (with the HRH and title) and the others. Charlotte already is an HRH Princess and the new one will have royal titles. So they should work. They get the perks and would need to give back. I think the cutting back might occur in future generations but I disagree that those with the titles should be "demoted." I think if a senior royal has a family (heir or heir to the heir) it should be all or nothing, either all get the HRH Prince or Princess or none of them do. Having only the eldest have it and the others "commoners" would IMO be confusing and perhaps give the younger ones inferiority complexes. They are still siblings in a family. The "heir" has a special role but would grow up in a family of siblings.

I think there is no reason why Bea and Eugenie should not work. The elders are Charles (70 this year), Camilla (who has low work numbers and is 71 this year) and the Queen (92 this year) and PHilip (retired) so the younger ones can take up the slack.

Charles made it clear that Harry will indeed be part of the scaled down monarchy.

Kate did not do much before the babies came. So there is not much change for her.

I personally think that Harry should never have left the army - but he was going nowhere there as he didn't have the smarts to get a promotion on merit so threw in the towel. He should be able to get some sort of job as a street sweeper or stacking shelves or something.

We know he won't but he is really surplus to requirements now.

We keep hearing that the BRF are going to downsize but no clear guidelines as to what that means. If 'siblings' of the monarch are going to be expected to do full time royal duties into the future what happens if a monarch has 10 kids - could happen.

My idea is to really limit it to a maximum of 6 in time. No one currently doing duties should be stopped but Charlotte and her sibling should be taught from now that they won't have that lifestyle.

If Eugenie - a Princess born - can have a job there is no reason why some future Princess can't do the same thing. If having the style of HRH Prince/Princess means they have to do royal duties explain why Prince Micheal of Kent doesn't.

They need to do two things to really make the family smaller and relevant:

1 Re-do the LPs governing who is and who isn't an HRH so that only the children of the direct heir have it - so no HRH for Harry's children and any born in the present reign won't get it under the existing LPs - so he then announces that they will follow Edward's lead and then when the York girls marry they give up their HRHs and then either Charles or William issue the new LPs after the last of the Queen's cousins who have had HRH for over 70 years die (or the way the LPs are worded they keep it but no new ones are issued due to being the children of the sons of the monarch). Charlotte can't pass on HRH as the rules currently exist and if the new baby is a girl then only George's children will have HRH so a good time to issue new LPs.

2. Announce that no new royals will be on the working roster other than George and his future spouse and then George's heir apparent and spouse - so announce that in time only the 6 maximum will be on the roster.

It will take 50+ years but can happen without upsetting anyone who already is doing royal duties - and I am not suggesting that anyone who has been working for the Queen for years should be told 'go away'. I am suggesting a gradual change but announced now.

My point is that titles and HRHs should not be removed, after they are born with or married into the title. If this is done, it should be set up for a new generation. Unless the royals want to do away with the HRH except only for the Monarch. But once the person is born into the title like William and Harry they are focused on and naturally would need security, paid for by taxpayers. If one has the HRH removed mid-life there would be some issues. Even the Duke of Windsor got to keep the HRH after he abdicated.

I also think an all or nothing situation would be needed for a direct heir's children. Either they all have the titles or none of them do. But this needs to be thought out for new generations.

As the elders age out, the younger ones numbers should be going up now. William should really be stepping up duties since Philip retired. I have lost some hope about Kate who never stepped up and even before she had the babies.

I think Charlotte should not be prevented from working. SHe may actually eventually have a better work ethic than George. She is the first princess born to a direct heir for decades and she will probably be Princess Royal. Anne was not prevented from working and what a loss it would have been if she had been forbidden to work. The younger one should not be forbidden either. George also would have to do the military training which CHarlotte would not need to do. Better her working than being just a socialite being photographed at parties. I hope she is sent to University like her brother. And sometimes the spares do have to step up and some became monarchs.

Harry could be given some charities maybe be an apprentice with the Prince's Trust and choose things very significant.