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arisvega writes with word that the group of hackers known as Anonymous "has taken down a Turkish government website in a protest against recently introduced Internet filters that many consider to be censorship. They also appear to have published a manifesto. Turkey has a long history of Internet censorship, with the country's ISPs having blocked YouTube and numerous other sites in the the past couple of years."
From the linked manifesto: "(The Turkish government) has blocked thousands of websites and blogs while abusive legal proceedings against online journalists persist. The government now wants to impose a new filtering system on the 22nd of August that will make it possible to keep records of all the people's internet activity. Though it remains opaque why and how the system will be put in place, it is clear that the government is taking censorship to the next level."

BTK [wikipedia.org] had an announcement about TIB on a Turkish newspaper today, saying that they will get the IP addresses of the attackers and will "possibly punish them" for it (1 [gelecekonline.com], in Turkish). I posted the link so we all can have a touristic visit to a Turkish jail.

PS. Turkish media are now reporting (most probably upon government directives) that the attacks were not successful despite initial reports.

For all trying to check whether the website is still down, TIB actually blocked connections out of Turkey to their website as a precaution against this attack. Soon they will cut the cord and claim their website is not affected at all.

That's something I didn't quite get, what's so "horrible" about burning a flag? Are we so dependent on totems and fetishes, after all those years of civilization?

Don't get me wrong, if someone loves his country or is proud of its achievements, or just likes it lots, all fine and nice. I enjoy living where I live as well and if push comes to shove, I might consider defending it with arms. But getting worked up about someone burning the flag? Fffft. If it keeps you warm, have fun. You bought it, it's your pro

Is it just me or has the number of news stories relating to someone being hacked or DDOSd dramatically increased in the past few months?? From PSN (which I am a member of), to the wave of recent LulzSec and Anonymous stories, I cant ever remember a streak of hacking like this one. Loving equilibrium, I think It would be awesome if someone at least attempted to hack LulzSec. They seem less interested in making the world better like Anonymous, and more interested in just showing off their hax0rz skillz.

Anonymous has no agenda, because people or groups who are operating under the Anonymous banner do not communicate or coordinate with one another. Sure, the case might prove to be that in reality there's only one small active group that are actually competent and driven enough to pull off "advanced persistent threat" status - but it might as well be any number of people and groups involved. And even then, that group would probably shift, or new groups and people could take up the banner.

True, but if the organization's name was "hackingsensation!" people could still start hacking charities tomorrow claiming to be that group. It's not so much the name "Anonymous", but the fact that they are a hacking group.

Is that censorship? Depends. Opt-in (or even opt-out), it's not. If you filter "for" me without me having a say in it, and you being the government, then yes, it is censorship, even if the intent is good.

Censorship is or is not. There is no "good" censorship, and neither is there "limited" censorship. If you're sincere about protecting your people, offer them a free filter, maybe make it mandatory for ISPs to carry and advertise it to their customers so nobody could possibly claim he didn't know about its e

They are called LulzSec for a reason, and I'm sure that reason is for the lulz. So I can't really agree with you that an organization that does things for the lulz should do anything more meaningful...

What gets published in the media as "news" is heavily filtered and several criteria have to be met before an event becomes "news". One of the criteria is whether the item has brought enough ad clicks in the recent past and the PSN hack certainly did.

Do you really think that the hacking of a minor gov site would make the news in e.g. CNN two years ago?

The number of such news stories recently has increased but it's mainly positive feedback: the more publicity the villains get, the more they are at it.

inevitably next up : the evil genius mastermind , "leader" of anonymous gets arrested on charges of raping a groupie in a hotel room whilst throwing child porn around in the streets. You're right, this seems to be turning into a boasting contest.

One of the people responsible for making injunctions against websites is Adnan Oktar, AKA Harun Yahya. Just another creotard but seemingly with a lot of power.
Question, where does all the money come from to publish his "Atlas of Creation" and give it away free?

Its the other way around. Ever since the EU - France/Sarkozy and Germany/Merkel in particular - pushed a then EU-membership-eagerTurkey away in the mid 2000s with silly religious-geographic arguments, like "Turkey isn't and never will be a European Country", privacy-rights and other human rights in Turkey - like the right to peaceful protest/assembly - have become seriously eroded. Turkey in 2011 is a true Orwellian 1984 state where people are afraid to discuss politics or religion over the phone or interne

Turkey in 2011 is a true Orwellian 1984 state where people are afraid to discuss politics or religion over the phone or internet, where going into important business meetings you are routinely asked to check your smartphone/mobile phone at the door, where anytime anything crime related happens, police magically get hold of 'detailed Internet records' of the perps immediately.

I live in Turkey: all of this is outright lies except the last one, which occurs "elsewhere" as well (as in "think of the children

Is no one else concerned with the fact that these guys get to do whatever they want, to whom ever they want, and there are no repercussions? I understand the way Anonymous works, it's difficult to track these people down. But you can't tell me that with the recent trend in public hacks that many of them aren't performed by the same group of people.

Anonymous doesn't have any type of real leadership, and there has never been a very active group of core members, it's more or less "hey we're going to attack t

Attendum: I agree that it's not a good thing that you can get away with evil/bothersome things like carding and vandalism over the net. I'm just saying that it's pretty much impossible to track someone who doesn't wish to be tracked when the only information you have is the IP address of the last proxy in a chain stretching across the globe. That's just the reality of the situation.

The only way to remove that would either be to remove all technical possibility of exploitation and attack from the net, or

Or moles, warrants for access to server logs and wiretaps, and basically all the tools that are already used to track organized criminals. I know they like to bill themselves as these supernatural, everywhere-and-nowhere crusaders, but they're not. They're a bunch of losers and man-children who, until recently, didn't attract enough attention to be worth taking down. That may be changing.

Yeah, they're probably just male twenty-thirtysomethings who're in it for excitement, like it seems most every member of a hacking group throughout history. I've studied this a bit, and it's fascinating how similar their behaviour seems to be.

And if they're "internet-based" (eg, accepting members from online) you could infiltrate them. Warrants probably woudn't be as effective, though, since you need the jurisdiction involved to cooperate. And you're basically still relying on the attacker to make a mistak

Interesting point, but if we're talking about a small and competent hacker group, they technically wouldn't need "traction" to operate. They'd need motivation, though. Then the question is, what motivates them?

If they're normal human beings they'd stop when the damage of their actions wasn't outweighed by their perception of "greater good"/"the target had it coming".

They've been getting arrested. [google.com] The law moves relatively slowly, but if they keep hacking different sites, eventually they will get caught. Just like the Washington DC sniper [wikipedia.org].....sure, one snipe and he got away with it, but when he kept doing it, he got caught. And my guess is they will keep doing it, because excitement is addicting and intoxicating.

Anonymous hardly does any harm.They are only effective because the public reacts to their actions.

For example, Anonymous helped the revolution in Tunisia to happen. On their own, Anonymous were useless, but the Tunisians reacted to what Anonymous did and this fueled the revolution.Anonymous is effective because the population gets angry at the government or the population realizes the government is in reality weak and powerless ("The government failed miserably at protecting itself from HACKERS - what the h

Is no one else concerned with the fact that these guys get to do whatever they want, to whom ever they want, and there are no repercussions? I understand the way Anonymous works, it's difficult to track these people down. But you can't tell me that with the recent trend in public hacks that many of them aren't performed by the same group of people.
Anonymous doesn't have any type of real leadership, and there has never been a very active group of core members, it's more or less "hey we're going to attack this site" and then a bunch of basement dwellers rise up and start DDoS'ing. After they get bored they leave and move on.. But many of these recent attacks have seemed more organized than previous Anonymous doings.
Are people not concerned with their actions? I understand that so far they've been doing things that people can agree with "LOLSONYREVIL" "TURKEYCENSORINTERNETS" and blah blah. But the more attention we give them, the bolder they're going to become.. what happens when they decide that they want to fuck with the US or the some major company in the States.. I don't think people will be quite so willing to wave off their actions then.

I hear you brother! And I'd be with you too, but, but - all those young people flaunting their youth, and all those women flaunting their their, um, attractiveness, and all those successful people flaunting their success, and all those people doing things and thinking and standing up to the pricks and threatening the bullies. Oh I'm with you brother - if we don't stop this now people *will* walk on my lawn.

Yeah, GDP is capita is how rich the populace is (very roughly speaking). Total GDP is how rich the country as a whole is. So, speaking of "how big of a pipe does Turkey have", GDP is the relevant metric.

You're right, I was just a little confused with your comparison. I was just thinking that GDP per capita would be then be more relevant since Turkey has more than 3 times the population than Sweden, Finland and Denmark combined. Now Poland on the other hand is roughly half as large, populated and "rich" compared to Turkey.

If it were an EU member, there would be very many standards and procedures it would have to comply with. Labor would not be that cheap, child labor would be banned, running factories would be much more expensive and complicated (and less dangerous for the workers), specialized positions would demand degrees, so overall production costs would be much higher. Since Turkey ranks near to last on technology research for the "western" nation it is supposed to be, it wo

They also block sites that mention the fact that Ataturk was homosexual. (Ataturk is founder of the nation)They think that is a blemish on the nation so they stick their head in the sand. it is why they have blocked youtube a couple of times for example.

Last time they did that was when Israel attacked the Lebanese population, and Syrians thought they were next- the queues of Syrians outside of Turkish embassies were enormous, and the "solution" the Turkish administration came up with was simple: fifty euros a head per visa. Not that good considering the typical size of a Syrian family. Do they still sound "nice enough" to you?

This is completely different than filtering malware sites and the like. You would do well to read up on the problem in Turkey before posting.
The Turkish government has lately been censoring the crap out of any journalist who speaks poorly of it. This blanket censorship has widely been seen as the next step of censoring the masses.
This might help educate you a bit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Turkey [wikipedia.org]

How dare Turkey decide it has the power to decide what websites people should and shouldn't be allowed to visit and then deliberately block people from visiting unapproved websites......Only Anonymous is allowed to do that.

Every time you find an Anonymous person. You cut them apart, with power tools on television. I mean it's all fun and games when you go after pussies who run banks and movie studios in the US but countries like Turkey or Russia's grasp of 'due process' is abstract, at best.

There's going to be a new reality show on tv - 'Pressure Drop', where they just take nerds and kick them out the helicopter.

Every time you find an Anonymous person. You cut them apart, with power tools on television. I mean it's all fun and games when you go after pussies who run banks and movie studios in the US but countries like Turkey or Russia's grasp of 'due process' is abstract, at best.

There's going to be a new reality show on tv - 'Pressure Drop', where they just take nerds and kick them out the helicopter.

And I'm ok with that.

Oh come now, we all see through your thinly veiled attempts to prove you are not a leader of Anonymous; Your overly outrageous statements actually support this view.

How do you explain the fact that many Anonymous members claim that they were secretly taking direction from you!?

It's all funny when Anonymous goes after brie nibbling western liberal states and the occasional innocuous fat target like a television network. Yesterday they went after the Turkish government, not known for their shyness when persecuting Kurds and Armenians. Imagine the fun times when they go after Vladimir Putin.

It's like those tools who 'accidentally' stumbled into Iran or North Korea? And you mean mommy and daddy didn't bail them out? Why I am incensed at those country's lack of compassion and toleranc