Big Gulp ban

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by WhiteShoePrincess

May. 31, 2012 5:34 pm

I think the intentions behind it are good, but I guess they wouldn't have that right. Making the 32 ounce cost as much as two 16 ounce drinks would be the best idea! This wouldn't effect me since it's pretty rare that I would even drink a soda. XD

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Topic is government involvement in in personal decisions. If someone wants to drink, smoke or eat stuff that is harmful, some want to prevent it, because they don't know better and need help from the wise leaders to control the ignorant masses. But the same idiot who can't make own decisions on food, tobacco and drinks can make decision to kill, yes I said kill, an unborn child. A fetus will grow into a child, sorry, just how it works. I understand that aborting an unwanted child may seem to be better than having and raising such a child, but take a moment to think your own mother could have aborted you.

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I am pre-occupied with Progressive non-sense. Sugar bad, must ban, abortion good, must protect. I think both are personal choices that govenrment must keep out of, but I still think abortion is killing a child, but may be better than having a child raised by an unloving abusive idiot of a parent.

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What would conservatives do about the increasing numbers of obese children? It's bad enough that so many adults are now addicted to sugar but tempting kids with the cool seeming Big Gulp or Double Gulp is a stupid idea.

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Topic is government involvement in in personal decisions. If someone wants to drink, smoke or eat stuff that is harmful, some want to prevent it, because they don't know better and need help from the wise leaders to control the ignorant masses.

That's exactly the propaganda that the media wants you to believe.

People can still buy two drinks if they want.

But the point is that businesses are exploiting people's emotional rather than rational response when buying drinks. Studies show that when you offer lower size drinks, people drink those and are perfectly happy about it. The law simply stops people from automatically buying something they don't really think about and really don't really want. The law really just makes people think twice before they buy soda.

And also people have no idea of the harmful effects of that much sugar. We don't sell poisons to people, yet that amount of sugar has toxic implications. And sodas are designed to trick the body and mind's natural desire for sweets.

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by spicoli

May. 31, 2012 9:20 pm

The only thing banning soda does is make people vote Republican. A low information voter sees this government action as an over reach and votes Republican. They are blind to the Republican policies that are against their own best interest. Yes, the eating habits and food choices are an issue. But, actions like banning large sodas are not the solution. What's next... banning toys from Happy Meals?

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Topic is government involvement in in personal decisions. If someone wants to drink, smoke or eat stuff that is harmful, some want to prevent it, because they don't know better and need help from the wise leaders to control the ignorant masses.

That's exactly the propaganda that the media wants you to believe.

People can still buy two drinks if they want.

But the point is that businesses are exploiting people's emotional rather than rational response when buying drinks. Studies show that when you offer lower size drinks, people drink those and are perfectly happy about it. The law simply stops people from automatically buying something they don't really think about and really don't really want. The law really just makes people think twice before they buy soda.

And also people have no idea of the harmful effects of that much sugar. We don't sell poisons to people, yet that amount of sugar has toxic implications. And sodas are designed to trick the body and mind's natural desire for sweets.

So back to my point, people are too ignorant and emotional to buy a big soda, but these same people can be trusted to terminate a preganacy?

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I think the intentions behind it are good, but I guess they wouldn't have that right. Making the 32 ounce cost as much as two 16 ounce drinks would be the best idea! This wouldn't effect me since it's pretty rare that I would even drink a soda. XD

Let me ask you this Princess. Why 16 ounces? Why not a total ban. And beer is much more fattening than soda. Why not ban beer? And what is next? After this ban what will be the next thing banned? I'm predicting double cheeseburgers. We must regulate the size of the burger. If you were a soda drinker would you be thankful that the government has stepped in to punish and protect you from yourself? How about this: Next time you want to get an ice cream cone maybe some government official should run up and slap your hand as it you are their little baby girl. This is how tyranny begins.

I am 156 lbs. of solid muscle. I don't need some government nit wit aproving what I eat. So I get punished because someone else is fat? Government should stay they hell out of my kitchen and personal life. I am not accountable to any man.

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I think the intentions behind it are good, but I guess they wouldn't have that right. Making the 32 ounce cost as much as two 16 ounce drinks would be the best idea! This wouldn't effect me since it's pretty rare that I would even drink a soda. XD

Let me ask you this Princess. Why 16 ounces? Why not a total ban. And beer is much more fattening than soda. Why not ban beer? And what is next? After this ban what will be the next thing banned? I'm predicting double cheeseburgers. We must regulate the size of the burger. If you were a soda drinker would you be thankful that the government has stepped in to punish and protect you from yourself? How about this: Next time you want to get an ice cream cone maybe some government official should run up and slap your hand as it you are their little baby girl. This is how tyranny begins.

I am 156 lbs. of solid muscle. I don't need some government nit wit aproving what I eat. So I get punished because someone else is fat? Government should stay they hell out of my kitchen and personal life. I am not accountable to any man.

Nobody's telling you what you can and can't eat or drink and you know it. The idea behind this is to make it not so easy to over indulge in something that could be harmful to mainly children. You can buy 10 12 oz. sodas if you want. Why is it that when someone tries to do something that's right, so many people swoop in for the kill? The government isn't in your kitchen, they are in public places. ..........and in your bedroom.

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I think the intentions behind it are good, but I guess they wouldn't have that right. Making the 32 ounce cost as much as two 16 ounce drinks would be the best idea! This wouldn't effect me since it's pretty rare that I would even drink a soda. XD

Let me ask you this Princess. Why 16 ounces? Why not a total ban. And beer is much more fattening than soda. Why not ban beer? And what is next? After this ban what will be the next thing banned? I'm predicting double cheeseburgers. We must regulate the size of the burger. If you were a soda drinker would you be thankful that the government has stepped in to punish and protect you from yourself? How about this: Next time you want to get an ice cream cone maybe some government official should run up and slap your hand as it you are their little baby girl. This is how tyranny begins.

I am 156 lbs. of solid muscle. I don't need some government nit wit aproving what I eat. So I get punished because someone else is fat? Government should stay they hell out of my kitchen and personal life. I am not accountable to any man.

Nobody's telling you what you can and can't eat or drink and you know it. The idea behind this is to make it not so easy to over indulge in something that could be harmful to mainly children. You can buy 10 12 oz. sodas if you want. Why is it that when someone tries to do something that's right, so many people swoop in for the kill? The government isn't in your kitchen, they are in public places. ..........and in your bedroom.

Is this what you need? You cannot handle making decisions without a government robot supervising you? Why? You and your family may need the government to make your food decisions for you, but I do not. I don't need to be punished, guided or micro managed. This country was formed because we did not want government managing us through brute force. We are here because we longed for personal freedom. Now we want to give it all back to the rich, elite rulling class. We've seen this movie before and the ending is always bad. Again, Why do you need the government managing all of your decisions or punishing you for what you eat or purchase?

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I think the intentions behind it are good, but I guess they wouldn't have that right. Making the 32 ounce cost as much as two 16 ounce drinks would be the best idea! This wouldn't effect me since it's pretty rare that I would even drink a soda. XD

Let me ask you this Princess. Why 16 ounces? Why not a total ban. And beer is much more fattening than soda. Why not ban beer? And what is next? After this ban what will be the next thing banned? I'm predicting double cheeseburgers. We must regulate the size of the burger. If you were a soda drinker would you be thankful that the government has stepped in to punish and protect you from yourself? How about this: Next time you want to get an ice cream cone maybe some government official should run up and slap your hand as it you are their little baby girl. This is how tyranny begins.

I am 156 lbs. of solid muscle. I don't need some government nit wit aproving what I eat. So I get punished because someone else is fat? Government should stay they hell out of my kitchen and personal life. I am not accountable to any man.

Nobody's telling you what you can and can't eat or drink and you know it. The idea behind this is to make it not so easy to over indulge in something that could be harmful to mainly children. You can buy 10 12 oz. sodas if you want. Why is it that when someone tries to do something that's right, so many people swoop in for the kill? The government isn't in your kitchen, they are in public places. ..........and in your bedroom.

Is this what you need? You cannot handle making decisions without a government robot supervising you? Why? You and your family may need the government to make your food decisions for you, but I do not. I don't need to be punished, guided or micro managed. This country was formed because we did not want government managing us through brute force. We are here because we longed for personal freedom. Now we want to give it all back to the rich, elite rulling class. We've seen this movie before and the ending is always bad. Again, Why do you need the government managing all of your decisions or punishing you for what you eat or purchase?

Reducing the size options for a sody pop is punishment? Again, it's not to babysit you and I, it's to help "children" make better choices. It forces nothing on anyone. In fact, if it helps with the growing problem of obesity amongst the poorest of our citizens that's going to save you a lot of your precious tax dollars in health care costs. Leave it to you guys to make a Big Gulp a national story. I think "jan in iowa" made a post about this very thing. Distractions from the real issues.

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I think the intentions behind it are good, but I guess they wouldn't have that right. Making the 32 ounce cost as much as two 16 ounce drinks would be the best idea! This wouldn't effect me since it's pretty rare that I would even drink a soda. XD

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. - CS Lewis

re: Big Gulp ban

I think the intentions behind it are good, but I guess they wouldn't have that right. Making the 32 ounce cost as much as two 16 ounce drinks would be the best idea! This wouldn't effect me since it's pretty rare that I would even drink a soda. XD

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. - CS Lewis

Yeah, like vaginal probes, prayer in schools and illegalizing the consumption of certain plants for our own good. These are important issues but don't carry near as much weight as downsizing a big gulp.

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by Art

Jun. 1, 2012 6:56 am

I doubt that Bloomberg is going to get his way on this. It's a pretty silly move. But making it a matter of the survival of the human race and civil liberties and truth, justice and the American way - seems over the top to me.

I'm more concerned about this attitude " I am not accountable to any man . . . We are here because we longed for personal freedom". That sounds like the typical 19 year old after he has left his parents nest and before he has taken a job or gone into the Army. Aren't we being a little adolescent, here?

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by delete jan in iowa

Jun. 1, 2012 8:15 am

If talking about this ban gets the population of New York to begin looking at the issue of "GMO corn sweeteners" (not sugar) in everything and the health ramifications then it's a good thing. It probably won't go very far, but the discussion maybe will intensify and make people think.

The comparison to abortion is just more blah blah blah..... we've heard it all before and I for one will not bite on that apple again.

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I think the intentions behind it are good, but I guess they wouldn't have that right. Making the 32 ounce cost as much as two 16 ounce drinks would be the best idea! This wouldn't effect me since it's pretty rare that I would even drink a soda. XD

Let me ask you this Princess. Why 16 ounces? Why not a total ban. And beer is much more fattening than soda. Why not ban beer? And what is next? After this ban what will be the next thing banned? I'm predicting double cheeseburgers. We must regulate the size of the burger. If you were a soda drinker would you be thankful that the government has stepped in to punish and protect you from yourself? How about this: Next time you want to get an ice cream cone maybe some government official should run up and slap your hand as it you are their little baby girl. This is how tyranny begins.

I am 156 lbs. of solid muscle. I don't need some government nit wit aproving what I eat. So I get punished because someone else is fat? Government should stay they hell out of my kitchen and personal life. I am not accountable to any man.

Nobody's telling you what you can and can't eat or drink and you know it. The idea behind this is to make it not so easy to over indulge in something that could be harmful to mainly children. You can buy 10 12 oz. sodas if you want. Why is it that when someone tries to do something that's right, so many people swoop in for the kill? The government isn't in your kitchen, they are in public places. ..........and in your bedroom.

Is this what you need? You cannot handle making decisions without a government robot supervising you? Why? You and your family may need the government to make your food decisions for you, but I do not. I don't need to be punished, guided or micro managed. This country was formed because we did not want government managing us through brute force. We are here because we longed for personal freedom. Now we want to give it all back to the rich, elite rulling class. We've seen this movie before and the ending is always bad. Again, Why do you need the government managing all of your decisions or punishing you for what you eat or purchase?

Reducing the size options for a sody pop is punishment?

Yes it is punishment. They have no business reducing anything. When will they start telling Burger King that the whopper is too big and they will need to "reduce the size option?" If they can tell you what size drink you will be permitted to order, then they can tell you anything. You may need their help in making a good decision, but I do not. I ask you this: After they start micro managing your drink order, what will be next? Any ideas?

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by Bush_Wacker

Jun. 1, 2012 8:26 am

Dude, it's a big gulp. Once again, they are trying to do something good for the country as a whole. They haven't ban soda, they want to make it a tad more difficult to consume an unhealthy amount at one sitting. They haven't said you can't drink as much soda as you want. You are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

I used to do a lot of hunting. They had the gall to limit me to one deer per year. That is probably what led them to micro manage my sugar intake per serving. The flood gates have been opened now. We are doomed to the government making all of our decisions.

I like to drink a beer every now and then. They had the gall to tell me, right down to the percentage, of how much alcohol I can drink before driving home. Yeah, yeah, I know it's for the betterment of society as a whole but who in the hell are they to micro manage my alcohol consumption?

Next thing you know they're going to be deciding for me whether to wear boxers or briefs.

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The only thing banning soda does is make people vote Republican. A low information voter sees this government action as an over reach and votes Republican. They are blind to the Republican policies that are against their own best interest. Yes, the eating habits and food choices are an issue. But, actions like banning large sodas are not the solution. What's next... banning toys from Happy Meals?

What republican policies are against my best interest.

This soda ban should have the left jumping up And down with delight. The government is taking control of their lives. No need to worry about what choices you make the government has that covered.

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The only thing banning soda does is make people vote Republican. A low information voter sees this government action as an over reach and votes Republican. They are blind to the Republican policies that are against their own best interest. Yes, the eating habits and food choices are an issue. But, actions like banning large sodas are not the solution. What's next... banning toys from Happy Meals?

What republican policies are against my best interest. This soda ban should have the left jumping up And down with delight. The government is taking control of their lives. No need to worry about what choices you make the government has that covered.

Excellent point workingman. It seems that the tables have turned. We are now facing a bunch of "anti-choice" liberals. How ironic is that?

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by Bush_Wacker

Jun. 1, 2012 1:19 pm

You righties are losing your marbles. Nothing has been banned. Your choices aren't being eliminated.

Go down to the hardware store and try buying 200 bags of fertilizer and tell me what happens. Go to the drug store and try to buy 10 boxes of sudafed and tell me what happens. Send your 14 year old down to the liquor store to buy a six pack and tell me what happens.

We've always had limits to some of our choices and we always will. Those types of things evolve with an ever changing world. Speaking of which, when's the last time you were able to take a pocket knife on an airplane?

Now breathe easy, slow down, gather yourself. I don't want you to have an insulin attack.

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You righties are losing your marbles. Nothing has been banned. Your choices aren't being eliminated.

Go down to the hardware store and try buying 200 bags of fertilizer and tell me what happens. Go to the drug store and try to buy 10 boxes of sudafed and tell me what happens. Send your 14 year old down to the liquor store to buy a six pack and tell me what happens.

We've always had limits to some of our choices and we always will. Those types of things evolve with an ever changing world. Speaking of which, when's the last time you were able to take a pocket knife on an airplane?

Now breathe easy, slow down, gather yourself. I don't want you to have an insulin attack.

Everything you pointed out is part of the massive government oversteps that Will eventually lead to a totalitarian controlling government or left wing utopia.

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by camaroman

Jun. 1, 2012 1:42 pm

It is like putting a frog in a pot of cold water and turning on the heat. He will not jump out and finally boil to death. The same with government slowly taking away all our freedoms little by little until finally the sheeple wonder what the hell happened. A mere hint at restricting abortion and the progressive lefties squeal like pigs stuck under a gate.

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It is like putting a frog ....... The same with government slowly taking away all our freedoms little by little until finally the sheeple wonder what the hell happened. A mere hint at restricting abortion and the progressive lefties squeal like pigs stuck under a gate.

Your argument is thin at best. It's obvious because you keep bringing up abortion. The two things have no connection. Try again.

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It is like putting a frog ....... The same with government slowly taking away all our freedoms little by little until finally the sheeple wonder what the hell happened. A mere hint at restricting abortion and the progressive lefties squeal like pigs stuck under a gate.

Your argument is thin at best. It's obvious because you keep bringing up abortion. The two things have no connection. Try again.

Conservatives always go to abortion ...... it's the best weapon in their arsenal.

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Quote Marlin60:... So back to my point, people are too ignorant and emotional to buy a big soda, but these same people can be trusted to terminate a preganacy?

You didn't understand my point. Purchasing soft drinks is done with little thought, thus it is individually irrational (in the economic sense) That is why people are allowed to purchase more than one drink.

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by Dr. Econ

Jun. 1, 2012 10:07 pm

How does the conservative mind grasp this fact that people are allowed to drink more than one drink?

"If we are right", they must think, "then why do the nasty liberals allow people to buy more than one drink"? It blows their minds. They will not and cannot allow it. Liberals are supposed to be regulating their lives, leading to a tolitarian state and destroying the rational individual!

The point is that businesses are exploiting people's emotional rather than rational response when buying drinks. Studies show that when you offer lower size drinks, people drink those and are perfectly happy about it. The law simply stops people from automatically buying something they don't really think about and really don't really want. The law really just makes people think twice before they buy soda.

Is it possible to restate the above more concisely, more simply? Perhaps there are too many sentences. To many opportunities for the conservatives to loose themselves or chop things up into meaningless bits. Let me just get the topic sentence:

The law really just makes people think twice before they buy soda in a public place where they rarely put much mind to it.

Is this the facist hell that the conservatives are so afraid of, or are they just being sugar pimps?

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by workingman

Jun. 1, 2012 10:27 pm

Yes you are allowed to buy to drinks if you want, however this is still an attack on personal freedom. The government has decided that you can not be trusted to order the small drink if you want. So they Will eleminate your choice. But yea if you.want to order a big mac And four small glasses go ahead..

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If this were a attack on your personal freedoms(which it is not) they would just ban the crap wouldn't they? You still have the choice to buy what you want so why are you cons still whining? Maybe you have a rash from not changing your diaper often enough.....Eh?

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The only thing banning soda does is make people vote Republican. A low information voter sees this government action as an over reach and votes Republican. They are blind to the Republican policies that are against their own best interest. Yes, the eating habits and food choices are an issue. But, actions like banning large sodas are not the solution. What's next... banning toys from Happy Meals?

What republican policies are against my best interest. This soda ban should have the left jumping up And down with delight. The government is taking control of their lives. No need to worry about what choices you make the government has that covered.

Asking the correct question is important. The correct question is: What Republican policies are in your best interest. The answer is: I'll get back to you once they have one.

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by Art

Jun. 2, 2012 5:28 am

Actually, I think that soda dispensers should be required to demand ID and proof of citizenship in order to purchase a Big Gulp. It strikes at the very core of the American ethos that illegal aliens should have access to the glorious bounty that has been made possible by the exceptional American capitalist freedom machine.

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by EdBourgeois

Jun. 2, 2012 5:41 am

Maybe a business could try thinking? Why offer such an enormous cup of sugar? What's the customer base that needs or will buy these? Is there the potential that kids will buy them? Could this actually be harmful to them at this quantity? Should we be advertising them in a way that attracts kids to them. Should we just be money minded pushers or should we care a little about our customers. Industry associations could actually think about the trends they develop and whether they make sense not just cents.

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The only thing banning soda does is make people vote Republican. A low information voter sees this government action as an over reach and votes Republican. They are blind to the Republican policies that are against their own best interest. Yes, the eating habits and food choices are an issue. But, actions like banning large sodas are not the solution. What's next... banning toys from Happy Meals?

What republican policies are against my best interest. This soda ban should have the left jumping up And down with delight. The government is taking control of their lives. No need to worry about what choices you make the government has that covered.

Asking the correct question is important. The correct question is: What Republican policies are in your best interest. The answer is: I'll get back to you once they have one.

So you do not know of any policies that are against my best interest that is what i thought.