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Re: too much gas

Originally Posted by Casiopea

Originally Posted by lucyarliwu

I couldn't help wondering when you mentioned the word 'tea' is from China, ya, and just as Tdol said it's 'cha' in chinese pronuciation, but how could it turn into 'tea' which is obviously different from 'cha', so as the 'cash', 'pidgin'??? :? Lucy in curiosity

From the Chinese, Amoy dialect t'e:
Dutch tee, chief importers (1610)
French the
Spanish te
German tee
English tea (1644)

Tea exported from the sea port of Amoy (in Fujian province north of Canton) through Malay and to the Netherland follows the Amoy (Taiwanese) sound of te. (Fujian has been a tea producing area.)

Tea went from the North through the land route -silk road- to Central Asia (Iran, Trukey) are called cha, following the Mandarin (northern Chinese) sound of cha. (Mandarin is the Beijing dialect.)

Ancient Chinese are preserved better in southern dialects, like Amoy and Fujianese (Taiwanese), and in Chinese loan words in Japanese, Vietnamese and Korean. Southern Chinese took ancient Chinese to the South when they migrated from the North, escaping from northern "barbarians" and the Mongols. (Northen Chinese are influenced more by other languages.)

Re: too much gas

Originally Posted by bmo

Originally Posted by Casiopea

Originally Posted by lucyarliwu

I couldn't help wondering when you mentioned the word 'tea' is from China, ya, and just as Tdol said it's 'cha' in chinese pronuciation, but how could it turn into 'tea' which is obviously different from 'cha', so as the 'cash', 'pidgin'??? :? Lucy in curiosity

From the Chinese, Amoy dialect t'e:
Dutch tee, chief importers (1610)
French the
Spanish te
German tee
English tea (1644)

Tea exported from the sea port of Amoy (in Fujian province north of Canton) through Malay and to the Netherland follows the Amoy (Taiwanese) sound of te. (Fujian has been a tea producing area.)

Tea went from the North through the land route -silk road- to Central Asia (Iran, Trukey) are called cha, following the Mandarin (northern Chinese) sound of cha. (Mandarin is the Beijing dialect.)

Ancient Chinese are preserved better in southern dialects, like Amoy and Fujianese (Taiwanese), and in Chinese loan words in Japanese, Vietnamese and Korean. Southern Chinese took ancient Chinese to the South when they migrated from the North, escaping from northern "barbarians" and the Mongols. (Northen Chinese are influenced more by other languages.)

Re: too much gas

It is interesting to see experts dissect "simple everyday" words like piano and tea. Here, we call it TSA. Most Chinese in our place came from AMOY. Local folks consider it medicinal and only drank when one has (I hope nobody is eating, please excuse me) diarrhea. Most of us, if not soda or water, coffee drinkers (US influence? most probably). In music, we were taught that piano means softly, pianissimo means most softly.
RAM