Since both you and I don’t like Obama, why don’t we just give Romney/Ryan a chance?

DLBarch

Psh. “Holding out hope against hope” is the right term, all right.

For all you PoliSci types keeping score, no non-fringe candidate has challenged a sitting American president from one’s own party since 1980, when Kennedy challenged Carter in the Democratic primary.

And the time before that? 1976, when Reagan challenged the incumbent Ford in the GOP primary.

Does anyone else notice a pattern here? Yup…challenge an incumbent in the primary and that incumbent will go on to lose in November.

Which is why neither party in the U.S. will pretty much ever see that happen again.

DLB

http://askakorean.blogspot.com thekorean

Since both you and I don’t like Obama, why don’t we just give Romney/Ryan a chance?

Equivalent statement: “You wanted strawberry ice cream, but the ice cream store only has vanilla ice cream now. So how about you eat a bowl of shit instead?”

jk641

DLB @8,

Thanks for the fun fact.

I would like to see Hillary run in 2016.
I think she deserves a shot at the White House.
(But what are the odds that a woman will become president of the United States?)

jk641

TK,

Way to foul up your own thread.

http://www.chinasmack.com/tag/funny/page/3 Jakgani

True – fouled up by the time it reached comment 9.

It’s a pity Hilary doesn’t run now….

It’s terrible that both leaders are not worth voting for – and there isn’t really a suitable candidate. Same shit is happening in Australia – both leaders running are no good – but there is no one else to vote for.

Equivalent statement: “You wanted strawberry ice cream, but the ice cream store only has vanilla ice cream now. So how about you eat a bowl of shit instead?”

exactly.

gbnhj

Bobby, that tune is good, but I liked it better when it was ‘Gimme Shelter’.

iMe

Cactus @4 wrote:
“You’d elect a Mormon as head of state? Sorry, haven’t they been declared loonies.”

Yah. Like, Christianists, Catholics, Mooslims and Zionist Jews are SO sane and rational. There’s so much peace and harmony in this world I can’t risk disrupting it with a Mormon in the White House! What the hell am I thinking?

Anonymous_Joe

#8 DLBarch: “For all you PoliSci types keeping score, no non-fringe candidate has challenged a sitting American president from one’s own party since 1980, when Kennedy challenged Carter in the Democratic primary.”

In ’92 Pat Buchanan challenged George Bush the (forty) First with the same predictable results. I don’t know whether you consider PB a fringe candidate, but his was certainly not a fringe candidacy: he garnered nearly a quarter of the vote.

I think there is a chicken or the egg problem with the observation that an incumbent president who is challenged in the primaries loses in the general election. Is he weak because he is challenged or is he challenged because he’s weak?

A sitting president is the de facto head of his political party. He has the machinery and people in his party behind him. Unless he doesn’t.

Yu Bum Suk

“Equivalent statement: “You wanted strawberry ice cream, but the ice cream store only has vanilla ice cream now. So how about you eat a bowl of shit instead?””

This really gave me a laugh.

bumfromkorea

Equivalent statement: “You wanted strawberry ice cream, but the ice cream store only has vanilla ice cream now. So how about you eat a bowl of shit instead?”

Nice. Precisely how I feel every time my Republican friends say exactly what jk said.

Anonymous_Joe

#6 thekorean: “I was holding out hope against hope that Hillary Clinton would challenge Obama this term. But since that did not happen, let’s do four more years, followed by Hillary Clinton all the way through 2024.”

Hillary could not run against Obama the moment she accepted her appointment as Secretary of State. Obama brilliantly locked her (and her husband) up in that gilded cage. No one within or without the party would forgive her for turning coat.

She of course knew that and saw the SoS as her best destiny. She likely thought that the economy in four years would have come around more strongly than it has and that Obama would be a two-termer. Also, the SoS was a slam dunk.

My opinion is that she’s done. For the next go round in 2016, she’ll be 70, which is older than Reagan was when he ran. She won’t have a power base from which to run. Reagan was the last non-office holder to defeat a sitting president, and before Reagan was Grover Cleveland for the second of his split terms. She stands no real chance then if its Romney. She could hope for an Obama second term and that the fire will still be in her belly. I really, however, think she’s done.

As for her legacy, she was an outstanding senator for New York, and she availed herself well (read: not perfectly) as SoS. She has come a long way since her first two years as FLOTUS, and history will treat her well.

Accepting your hypothetical, I’m stunned to post that I’d consider voting for her. I used to think that Bill Clinton was the anti-Christ: whenever a problem arose, a plane conveniently crashed or someone conveniently committed suicide. I waited to read a headline of some embattled Clinton kitchen cabinet member getting impaled by a lightning stricken flag pole as he banged on the White House door. (I hope the allusion is not too obscure. It’s really one of my favorite movies.)

keith

Funny ‘bowl of shit’ comment! LOL. Sadly it’s true that with most elections you end up not voting for ‘who is the best’, but instead have to try and figure ‘who will screw things up least’. That’s why if I was an American I’d reluctantly vote Obama, he hasn’t done a particularly good job, but the prospect of Romney as POTUS is truly frightening.

“Arkancide is the unfortunate habit of potential witnesses to the Clintons’ dirty dealings in Arkansas suddenly deciding to shoot themselves twice in the back of the head. Police and Coroners in Arkansas, notably Fahmy Malak who answered to Governor Bill Clinton, automatically described these shootings as “suicides.”

After Bill Clinton became President the phenomenon spilled over to Washington D.C. when Hillary Clinton’s ex-lover Vincent Foster was “Arkancided.”

The Arkancide website consists of a history of the Clintons and their misdeeds in Arkansas and the White House, a list of books about the Clintons, a section on Hillary Clinton, which is rapidly growing and becoming increasingly relevant to all of us, and a section on the press and their view of Hillary as “she who can do no wrong.”

If you’re in a hurry and can’t spare the week or two that it would take to follow all these links, at least read the three-part history of Hillary Clinton by Cockburn and St. Clair and the 29 episodes of The Real Hillary Clinton”

Q

JFK, LBJ, Bill Clinton – cheaters.

Nixon, Carter, Bush Sr. & Jr. – no cheating on their wives.

http://bcarr.com Brendon Carr

Nixon, Carter, Bush Sr. & Jr. – no cheating on their wives.

We don’t know that to be true. We only know that no public scandals emerged.

Anonymous_Joe

Arkancide… very funny.

Carter famously lusted in his heart, and there was a rumor, actually a footnote in the back of a book, about Bush, Sr. I remember a press conference (sometime in ’92) that had all the main stream press ignoring the elephant in the room because no one could corroborate the story when someone from (in my mind, <iThe New York Post) a less credible news organization asked the President about the affair. The President denied it, but the question set off a flash flood of questions from the main stream press. My biggest impression at the time was that the news had created news.

Arghaeri

hillary is a corrupt, criminal, power-mad dyke.

Well surely being a dyke shouldn’t count against her if as you note she’s otherwise fully qualified for the position.

http://askakorean.blogspot.com thekorean

For the next go round in 2016, she’ll be 70, which is older than Reagan was when he ran.

Nah, she’ll be 68.

I used to think that Bill Clinton was the anti-Christ: whenever a problem arose, a plane conveniently crashed or someone conveniently committed suicide.

What changed your mind?

http://koreanlanguagenotes.blogspot.com/ gbevers

Rumors of New Books Being Written by the Obama Family:

“Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell: My Four Years in the White House,” by Barack Obama

“Hope and Change? Honey, I Still Can’t Believe They Bought It,” by Michelle Obama

“Lies & Excuses from My Father,” by Sasha Obama

“The Audacity of My Father’s Lies,” by Malia Obama

“Four Years in the White House: How I Survived Being Eaten,” by Bo Obama

CactusMcHarris

Gerry,

You’re writing dual tomes, I guess, the first on that last item (Gerry’s Takeshima Cookbook) and the second on self-awareness. Bon chance.

burkingshaw

df: (#16)
Love that Mr. Orff personally participated in the making of this version. Still, it’s by far the most “far out” version I’ve seen. It so fits the 70’s! Its a little to heavy on the profane side of the whole gig for my tastes. Orff was in his 80’s… surely he wasn’t the one on drugs for this rendition, was he? It’s like Monty Python taking himself seriously……

burkingshaw

df: (#16) continuing….
Orff wrote it as a ballet. This version seems more like a bad LSD trip. Still, funny now to see it. Thanks for posting the link!

I’m with David B. , President O needs four more years to straighten the house of state.

“House of state”?

No, he wants four more years in the White House to improve his golf game, in between flying around the country for talk show interviews, Hollywood parties, and samplings of local cuisine.

I think President Obama has abused the Office of the Presidency more than any president in history, not including such presidents as Idi Amin and Vladimir Putin.

jk641

You’ll all get to see “bowl of shit” trounce “vanilla ice cream” in two more taste tests.

(No offense to vanilla lovers; I’m one of you.)

Railwaycharm

#37 you are being charitable, Obie has done so much more sinister things to the Republic. First you break it down so it fails, then everyone has the same broken crumb to fight over. He is a Marxist, Keynesian piece of shit.

judge judy

i’d never trust a man who doesn’t need to improve his golf game, gerry. as for the rest of your rant, i’d recommend making sure you took your medication today.

Then, the bald president Ike might be the most honest US president since the advent of TV.

gbnhj

Here’s another take on the state of English-language education, this time from a Japanese comedy program.

http://pawikoreapics.blogspot.com/ pawikirogii 石鵝

a gang of creepy white guys discuss comfort women. did you know they were all whores looking to get paid? japan, are you out there? be careful; the last thing you should want is to have these creeps speak on your behalf. this is going to become an international issue. your creeps will be in the minority.

Japanese courts order Japanese government to reveal what’s in those secret documents. The Japanese say that the secret documents which have to do with Japan/Korea normalization treaty on comfort women, and Dokdo, will affect Japan-Korea relations.

“The court subpoenaed 328 documents, 212 of them to be revealed fully and 56 partially. The court ruled that documents whose contents Koreans could find insulting or humiliating, as well as those that could impact talks on normalizing ties with North Korea, must remain sealed. “

frogmouth

Yeah right cm..

Maybe these records will look the same as other documents the Japanese have “released” before.

It is a shame – I thought they would have at least left part of the video up. I watched the live feed and it was pretty good – if not long. To be honest – I only watched it once he passed 100,000 feet. The cameras on the ground were fantastic – relative close-ups from some 23-24 miles away and very clear. And the cameras that were mounted outside of the capsule – Christ…..the view was astonishing. Watching him open the door and then jump out was pretty wild.

jk641

robert @62,

Damn, I missed the live feed.
Hopefully they’ll upload the video again.

Interestingly, Joe Kittinger still keeps the longest free-fall record.
Wonder how they feel about that.

Indeed, given that I doubt 90% have even heard of Neil armstrong let alone be in a position to doubt him.

keith

@16 Lego head. Shows himself as a true man of taste. Sorry if you’re a women LH, most blues fans tend to be male though.

SRV was one of the best guitarists ever. He is actually one of the few musicians who could actually pull of a Hendrix tune, without completely changing it. I’m not a big fan of Sting’s later work, but I do like his version of Little Wing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLQjVvDTRPQ

I respect Sting for knowing there is no way he’d be able to pull of a Hendrix version of the tune, it did help that Sting had some amazing musicians on his version, wasn’t it Eric Clapton and Courtney Pine who did a couple of the solos? If I was the nutter who jumped out the balloon from space, I’d have liked to have this on my MP3 player on the way down, it would have lasted most of the free fall.

Chosun Ilbo says that ROK is going to attempt a third and final NARO rocket launch.

“The chances of success have improved compared to the first and second attempts, because both Korea and Russia have removed all possible causes of failure,” the Ministry of Education, Science and Technology said.

That’s prescient of MEST to remove all possible causes of failure.

What I want to know is why they did not remove all the possible causes of failure the first or at least the second time.

…and what about the impossible? Has MEST even considered the impossible?

Mitt Romney was dead-on when he said Obama doesn’t pick winners and losers, Obama just picks losers.

cm

A Chinese fisherman who was illegally fishing off the coast in Mokpo, South Korea, has died after being hit by a rubber bullet. The rubber bullet was fired by a Korean coast guard who was being threatened by the Chinese who waved a deadly weapon at the Korean coast guards. The coast guard says he felt his life was threatened. This has the potential for another dispute with China on the way, precisely at this sensitive time.

Anonymous_Joe

It makes perfect sense to me that the South Korean gov’t and the soldier should owe blood money to the illegal Chinese fisherman who threatened the soldier with deadly force.

However, opening up a “gimbap” restaurant in a foreign city with only 10 Koreans living in it isn’t brave or entrepreneurial. It’s foolhardy.

This guy should just open up a faux-Japanese restaurant like a lot of other Korean immigrants.

http://koreanlanguagenotes.blogspot.com/ gbevers

Thank you, Hamel.

Seth Gecko

That was some lame shit.

If this is allowed out of moderation, I hope someone can explain why the link to the Korea Herald was removed, and then why the whole thread was removed.

jkitchstk

#77,
What happened? What a joke!

DLBarch

I tend to be a libertarian (gasp!) when it comes to letting MH posts and their comments sections run their course, and I personally like Hamel, or at least what he writes, so I am disappointed that he took down his earlier post.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen that in four years on MH, but no matter. More importantly, Hamel should at least come out of retirement and make his presence on MH felt more frequently. We need all the thoughtful commentary we can get.

DLB

http://bcarr.com Brendon Carr

Say, has anyone noticed the proliferation of polls showing Gov. Mitt Romney building a healthy margin over President Awesome? The Gallup organization now has it Romney 52%, Obama 45% — seven percentage points against the greatest president in the history of everything. These polls tend to oversample Democrats quite substantially, so the true picture is even worse than it appears. It appears this is going to be a wipeout.

Railwaycharm

@80 for the sake of the Republic, I hope so! It is going to take years to undo the damage this trailer park phoney has perpetrated on us. Pulling the leopard skin upholstery out of Air force one alone, will cost tens of thousands!

JW

I know from your past statements that you are a dunce, but you can’t really be that stupid. Mitt Romney’s chance of winning is still surely less than 50%, and that becomes very obvious after taking a brief look at the electoral map. I’ll chalk it up to willful ignorance, since I’m a nice guy.

@84 Obie has done nothing but drag the Republic deeper into the shit. Gas has doubled in price as a result of our devaluation of the dollar by half. And JW, go fuck yourself.

JW

Not that I think it’s even remotely reasonable to believe Obama can somehow influence the Fed’s actions or the global price of oil, but higher gas prices is actually a GOOD thing for us as a society in many ways, not the least being that it saves lives by way of less traffic fatalities. Anyway, Railwaycharm, my suspicion here has been confirmed — you are a bona fide stupid guy.

I don’t think you meant that – Uncle Brendon may be brainwashed by the Chinese (think the original Manchurian Candidate) and the Libertarian / Republican honchos, but an idiot he ain’t. And in #85, I hope you’re right, but it seems it’s going to be much closer than that.

JW

Well hello CactusMcHarris, how have you been? I did say that he can’t be THAT stupid, if that’s any consolation to you.

Railwaycharm

@88 Jerk Wad, or is it jack wagon? When you shutdown oil production in the country, supply and demand takes it’s toll. Obie has spent his patronage at dangerous levels to the unions and stupid green energy snipe hunts that are mostly bankrupt now.

I am informed, you are a brain dead drone. Go teach your English class you no-load waste of space. If you had something to loose you would be slightly relevant. You are a mouth-breathing, liberal, malignant troll. Do us all a favor, do the honorable thing, kill yourself.

JW

Looks like the gov’t is giving Psy a national cultural award. Here in my opinion is a prime example of goofy begetting more goofy. (link for korean speakers)