I still like to use Kazza lite, yeah yeah i dont want somebody to preach to me about spyware . Im trying to collect them all anyway. BUt hey it gets the job done most of the time, good enuff for me. I hate to go off topic but... Gamecop, if youre out there me and Quin could use some help down there in the Mugen forum. Anything would be appreciated.

Well I got mugen running and it runs great on my XP setup. The problem Im having is that whenever I run mugen with VDM sound, it plays great but after a while it crashes on a pre fight loading screen. If I apply any of the updates to VDM Sound the program hangs on the "INITIALIZING KEYBOARD" part. I deceided to change my screenpack in case that was the prob, but it didnt fix the prob. But at least now i get an error screen! And I did a lil searching on the web and a japanese site had a pic of my problem. Check it out (ERROR 2). and let me know if anybody has any ideas. I hope Gamecop is reading, he seems very good at these things. the jap site(ERROR 2 PIC) http://tukiken.hp.infoseek.co.jp/muge/cr/q...anda/error.html thanks for any help guys.