I can see why Kruger has been rumored to be getting a nice contract. He's had 20 sacks over the last two years in the regular season and playoffs. I don't know if I would want him at that much money because the only role he's been effective in is as a situational pass-rusher but it is what it is. Guys who rush the passer and produce get paid.

Wow, that's a huge shocker to me. That is pretty much all our FA spending money right there so we may as well consider that a wrap. That said we didn't have any holes outside of the LE spot. Safety still sucks and we need a SLB to play with Lee and Carter, among the upgrade at RG, but I can't argue with this because I wanted to see him play LE for years.

He's an absolute perfect fit, and he has to play at a high level to get big dollars next year so we should get max effort. Now maybe we can focus on Cooper in the draft and Matt Elam maybe in the 2nd?

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I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

Are these guys just taking an artificially high negotiating position? Even in that context it seems absurd. None of these players are elite, and many have serious questions about health, work ethic, or true talent level.

Avril isn't getting Mario Williams money. And nobody ever said he would. He said he would like to get that kind of money. Well, yeah. Who wouldn't want $50 million guaranteed? But nobody ever said he deserves it or would get anywhere close to that.

Two years ago Doug Free got $8 million so Andre Smith and Jake long could easily get $10 million-plus.

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Brilliant letting one of Scott Pioli's henchmen have his own team to ruin. One of the premier GM jobs in the NFL and it gets handed to a stupid **** who makes three facepalm moves for every good one. Awesome. Just like handing a new Mercedes to a 16 year old girl who's already been in three wrecks.

Are these guys just taking an artificially high negotiating position? Even in that context it seems absurd. None of these players are elite, and many have serious questions about health, work ethic, or true talent level.

One of those guys is elite. Andre Smith is the best right tackle in the NFL.

His weight and work ethic questions have been answered, but now there's the gun in an airport thing...

Of course, I still don't think the best RT is really worth 9 mil a year unless his QB is left-handed...

Avril isn't getting Mario Williams money. And nobody ever said he would. He said he would like to get that kind of money. Well, yeah. Who wouldn't want $50 million guaranteed? But nobody ever said he deserves it or would get anywhere close to that.

Two years ago Doug Free got $8 million so Andre Smith and Jake long could easily get $10 million-plus.

Doug Free was a left tackle coming off of a really good year, though. He didn't turn into a terrible right tackle until later, lol.

Nobody knows about it, but I have to agree with pro football focus on this one...he really is. Over the past two seasons, his pass protection has been really damned good and his run blocking has been dominant.

Andre Smith has become a very good lineman but I wouldn't rank him above Vollmer or Anthony Davis. There a a few other guys we could put in there as well. I wouldn't say there is a clear cut best guy who you can distinctly say is the "best right tackle in the NFL". I think it all boils down to who you are willing to go to bat for because there is a group of 5 or 6 players you could argue are Pro Bowl caliber right tackles, Smith is definitely a part of that group though.

Nobody knows about it, but I have to agree with pro football focus on this one...he really is. Over the past two seasons, his pass protection has been really damned good and his run blocking has been dominant.

His pass pro has graded higher than run blocking the last 2 seasons. Which I partially attribute to his playing with Mike McGlynn and a rookie RG most of the time. And having a TE who can't block.

Avril isn't getting Mario Williams money. And nobody ever said he would. He said he would like to get that kind of money. Well, yeah. Who wouldn't want $50 million guaranteed? But nobody ever said he deserves it or would get anywhere close to that.

Two years ago Doug Free got $8 million so Andre Smith and Jake long could easily get $10 million-plus.

Doug Free, at that time, was seen as a very good young (26 or 27) LEFT tackle that the Cowboys did a good job developing. He was a proven player with no serious injury history. It looks bad in hindsight but at the time I remember the Bucs and Cowboys were in a bidding war for him. Andre Smith only became "elite" recently after FAILING at LT. He plays RT, which is hardly a premium position. So he should not get that kind of consideration. Long is older now than Free was when he got the contract, he's ended two seasons on IR, and hasn't played all that well. The idea of either player getting $10+ million per year is crazy to me.

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One of those guys is elite. Andre Smith is the best right tackle in the NFL.

His weight and work ethic questions have been answered, but now there's the gun in an airport thing...

Of course, I still don't think the best RT is really worth 9 mil a year unless his QB is left-handed...

You pretty much answered the way I would have. Elite RT just means getting paid like a mid-tier starting LT. Eric Winston (last year's elite RT free agent) signed for 4 years, $22 million, with $8.4 guaranteed. Why the hell should Smith get anywhere near $9 or $10 million per year at the same position?

Doug Free, at that time, was seen as a very good young (26 or 27) LEFT tackle that the Cowboys did a good job developing. He was a proven player with no serious injury history. It looks bad in hindsight but at the time I remember the Bucs and Cowboys were in a bidding war for him. Andre Smith only became "elite" recently after FAILING at LT. He plays RT, which is hardly a premium position. So he should not get that kind of consideration. Long is older now than Free was when he got the contract, he's ended two seasons on IR, and hasn't played all that well. The idea of either player getting $10+ million per year is crazy to me.

Andre Smith has become a very good lineman but I wouldn't rank him above Vollmer or Anthony Davis. There a a few other guys we could put in there as well. I wouldn't say there is a clear cut best guy who you can distinctly say is the "best right tackle in the NFL". I think it all boils down to who you are willing to go to bat for because there is a group of 5 or 6 players you could argue are Pro Bowl caliber right tackles, Smith is definitely a part of that group though.

Stud: If not for a spell where injury took him off the field and then slowed him down while on it, it’s fair to say Sebastian Vollmer (+21.5) would have been our top ranked right tackle. He was that good.