Gun Safe

Hello All,
I am looking to get a fireproof gun safe. Time to grow up, can't use Dad's forever! I am particularly interested in brand more than size. I will probably get one in the 10/20 or 12/24 category. Has anyone dealt with Patriot safes? Thanks in advance for the help and have a great day!
Bill

I believe that size is very important, you have to remember that scoped rifles - particularly rifles with large scopes - take up almost two spaces. Your ten gun model will not hold ten scoped rifles. Brand is important because that determines $ - shop around, there are numerous makes and models and some are definitely more reasonably priced than others. Also watch for scratch and dent sales, contact the factories or major distributors and ask if they have any safes on special.
When you install the safe to move it into place on flat floors just cut some pieces of 3/4" inside diameter or so pvc pipe the same width as your safe. Tip the safe back and slip two or three pvc pipes under it, the safe will roll along with ease. Just keep moving the pipes forward as they roll out from under the safe. Could probably use wooden dowels, I know pvc pipe works super.

I shopped all over the net and my best deal was right here at home, saved 800 bucks on the safe and the dealer installed it where I needed it. talk to a local dealer, most of the manufactures adhere to the standard fireproofing ratings, metal thickness, door thickness and #/size of locking lugs and use the quality S&amp;G locks so they are about equal.
RR

Rule No. 1 : Buy at least Twice the size you think you need. Rule No. 2 : See Rule No. 1 ....... And never , ever , believe the stated size unless all your guns are the size of Daisy BB Guns ! With big Scopes , long Barrels , and big stocks , maybe you can get in 1/2 or a bit more of the "rated" capacity . If you are not real strong and handy , I would second the recommendation to use a local guy . Some have hydraulic Walkers where one guy can haul around a Ton of safe . Of course , my one guy is 6'8" and weighs 375 lbs ( no kidding ) . Safes are really built to keep the rif/raf out and make them give up . The serious Pro would have not much of a problem with one . I've talked to some big Dealers , and you would be floored by some of the techniques used by Pros . Bolt it to the Floor and make the sides and top as inaccessable as possible . Lastly , don't go showing what you have to anyone you don't know real well.

I used to build gun safes in Eugene, OR. I won’t give out too much info in a public forum, but I will tell you that as the manufacturer, we had a location on the rear panel that could be drilled &amp; a plug of the flame retardant could be removed; it then required a special tee-handle wrench to be pushed through to access a lock release on the inside panel of the door. Bad news was if you had something in the path of the wrench, it was a problem, also the integrity of the fire resistance and security was permanently compromised. Still it was better than cutting the safe, even though you had to order the kit &amp; instructions from the company.
Dave