ITK Confirmed In Under 24hrs

Aderweireld said: “With this team, and with the people working for it, we will get a trophy – 100 per cent,” said Alderweireld.

If it is not this season, then it will be the one after. We will do everything we can to make it happen this season.”

“Sometimes it is all about details. Last season we didn’t win the League but we kept going. This season we already have 71 points – one more than we got in the whole of last season.

“Even with the disappointment of last season we have kept fighting, and this season we are in an even better position. Regardless of what happens during the rest of this season, we have to keep improving and get better for next season as well.

“The desire to achieve something and to get better, as a young group, is there. We want to play better than we did last season. We want to become better. It says a lot about the mental strength of the team.”

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Toby or not Toby? That was the question. Whether ’twas not worth it in his mind to suffer the N’Jies N’Koudous of outrageous panic buys, or to take arms against the Si of ssokos and by opposing end them. N’Jie. Asleep. And by asleep to say the loan death that Marseille is made. N’Jie, perchance to dream. For in that double training session what dreams may come, when we have shuffled out the deadwood, must give us paws… err… paw-PRINTS on Tobes’ new contract. Sorted.

I was at the spot of both the latest Paris and London attacks a week or so before on both occasions, fuck me………please don’t blame nationalists for Islamic terror. 1400 years of violence…..quick, let’s blame the Western nationalists

Basically ISIS want the FN to get into power and any other alt or far right groups in Europe. The more division and blame put on the wider Muslim population the more radicalisation and resentment they hope there will be.

A vote for the Populists is a vote for ISIS without people even realising it.

How do you write off a whole religion as radical?
Its true a lot of countries have been kept down by its rulers..and the fo need enlightenment and the west cant do it but its crazy to write off a whole religion.
Im just not sure what all the answers are.

Their thirst for power, blood, greed etc are nothing to do with religion, this is just an excuse. A reason to convert and add further to the fanatic following . This is completely the opposite to the religious teachings of Islam, who’s followers a peaceful, law abiding people. Can’t stand people such as Trump and so many others, who call themselves Christians, yet has so many values which completely contradict this.

The idea that Islam is a peaceful religion is one perpetrated by the Liberal elite. The intention is to soften it up, emasculate it, and when, like mainstream Christianity it’s utterly impotent, dominate it.

Well said Ron, all religious groups have lunatic factions but the Islamic ones are the most murderous and unhinged. Jihadists kill more Muslims than any other religious group, perhaps that tells us something?

Thank you Ron. U know opinion has gone all off kilter when Ron is a man of reason. Harry you run a fantastic forum and your heart is definitely in tbe right place but u do come across as bitter and reactionary at times. Can we not just have a love in?? We are gonna win the league after all. I just heard that from an ITK.

Yes, Hitler was religious…..And the teachings of the church blamed Jesus’ death on Jews and did not stop until after the war. The Vatican was the first place to have a treaty with Hitler, German priests celebrated Hitler’s birthday from the pulpit. Nazi soldiers had “God on our side” written in their belts……Stalin and communism have many similarities to religion…..

Easty, you’ve said some things on here and made some statements, but this takes the biscuit. ISIS hate anything and everything non-muslim. It doesn’t matter if you are a peaceful loon dressed in orange and singing to Hari Krishna, a non-religious Jewess paying a fortune for kosher chicken on Golders Green Rd, a chain smoking cab driver called Mo, or a paid up member of a far right gang; to them, we are all the same.

I have no problem accepting that these are lone wolf attacks perpetrated by unhinged / mentally ill thugs. These men have murderous intentions and Islam gives them the excuse and justification they need to execute those intentions.

Obviously not all Muslims have murderous intentions, but not all Muslims follow Islam. Just like not all Jews are Observant, and not all Catholics believe in God.

The guys waging a holy war are truly Muslim and following Islam. They do what they do out of a deep conviction that they are doing God’s work. People like Sadiq Khan (other nominal believers are available) are no more Muslim than I am. A nominal Muslim is no Muslim at all. Not everyone in church on Sunday is a Christian.

There is a war going on, and at the moment it’s between Liberalism and Islam. Liberalism will win. Islam, like Christianity (for example) will be emasculated and then sidelined. Liberalism will tolerate anything that’s impotent.

I told a (probably) paradoxical view in that I think the Jihadis have a right to wage their holy war; their religion obliges them to, but that whoever they are fighting (the Liberal West in this instance) has the same rights and obligations to fight back.

How did you become such an authority on Islam? My Aunt and Uncle are pretty devout, pray five times a day, only eat Halal meat, don’t drink alcohol, but they are not radical. They abhor ISIS. Neither do they preach about the evils of Christianity for example, by selecting isolated controversial texts written many hundreds of years ago and offering it as proof of this.

I studied the Bible as a youth when I attended Church Services and Sunday School regularly. Doesn’t necessarily make me an expert, but I’m certainly not ignorant to some of the contents contained within it.

There are many texts which endorse genocide to non believers (commanding the killing of every man, woman and child, and every animal in the town), texts that mock the disabled, criticise homosexuality, display acceptance of slaves and slavery etc. contained within the Bible. I wouldn’t call those teachings.

Just as there are similarly unsavoury scriptures in other religious books.

I have a close relative who is a devout Christian. Some of his views are shocking and I’ve challenged him for having them. From his refusal to accept gay marriage (because “The Good Book” says it’s wrong of course), to his reluctance to accept interracial procreating relationships (diluting the gene pool!). Naturally not a shock to learn he was a committed Brexiteer, fearful of all these dark skinned people invading our country, “us losing our identity” and the like – never mind that his own father, and his wife’s father, were immigrants themselves, albeit that they were the right shade of immigrant for his palate.

Frankly if anyone is hanging off each and every word in any of these books that were written in the dim and distant past they need their heads testing IMO.

The world has evolved and so have some people, surprisingly. Some people want to stay in the dark ages and I’m in no doubt they’ll happily live by each and every word of a book written some 1500 or 2000 odd years ago or whatever, whichever book’s “teachings” they follow.

People should be able to look at something written at a time of greater ignorance with skepticism, and have the common sense to extract the better moral teachings from them to adopt in their lives, whilst dismissing the nonsense.

The shit being stirred up, was in reference to people persistently generalising about, or demonising followers of Islam/Islam itself due to the actions of a select few.

Spot on too, Easty. I have a client, a lady, who is an utterly devout Muslim. She denounces everything Daesh stands for and says their version of Islam is the perversion, not the other way round. She has studied the Koran extensively. The demonisation of Islam serves Isis’s purposes perfectly.

This is unfai, sorry. To be a religious and pious Muslim is not to engage In war – at least not more than the terror of the New or Old Testaments – All I get from this is your irrational fear and hatred of the Unknown. Have you ever visited a Musilm country? just asking for a friend like.

Toby or not Toby? That was the question. Whether ’twas not worth it in his mind to suffer the N’Jies N’Koudous of outrageous panic buys, or to take arms against the Si of ssokos and by opposing end them. N’Jie. Asleep. And by asleep to say the loan death that Marseille is made. N’Jie, perchance to dream. For in that double training session what dreams may come, when we have shuffled out the deadwood, must give us paws… err… paw-PRINTS on Tobes’ new contract. Sorted.