I have just, in one sitting, read the entire Vicious Lies archive. Thank you, thank you, I know it's impressive. I've seen the link so many times from Dave's posts on the Schlock boards, I finally caved into my desire to see this wonderful comic.<P>I must say, I like it. Reminds me a lot of Boxjam's doodle (the only other self-referential slice-of-life comic I've seen), but with slightly more elaborate art and more (didn't think it was possible) self-deprecation. Bravo. Hope you keep it up.<P>One question regarding the art, tho- Dave's glasses don't <I>really</I> look like that, do they? (O^O) There are doctors out there that can counsel and help with this condition.<P>-Pi-Who is so starved for personal contact that posting random topics to message boards and getting junk-mail are high points. (hmm... could that be turned into a comic?)

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pi:<B>I have just, in one sitting, read the entire Vicious Lies archive. Thank you, thank you, I know it's impressive.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>As for impressive, I would be even more impressed if you read through the <a href="http://www.toddandpenguin.com">Todd and Penguin</a> archives! You know,<a href="http://www.toddandpenguin.com"> Todd and Penguin</a>, the comic that Dave <a href="http://viciouslies.keenspace.com/review04.html">reviewed</a> last week, saying he loved it more than the air he breathes....Ok, so I'm <I>slightly</I> inflating his words here.<P> <B> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><P> -Pi-Who is so starved for personal contact that posting random topics to message boards and getting junk-mail are high points. (hmm... could that be turned into a comic?)</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> <B>TIP OF THE DAY:</B> If you are <I>REALLY</I> starved for personal contact, there are many decently priced massage parlors in the red light district of most major metropolitan cities, that will give you all the personal contact you can afford to put on your credit card.<P>~dave (dave 2--electric boogaloo)<P>------------------ <A HREF="http://toddandpenguin.keenspace.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://toddandpenguin.keenspace.com/</A> <P><p>[This message has been edited by toddandpenguin (edited 06-27-2001).]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pi:<B>I have just, in one sitting, read the entire Vicious Lies archive. Thank you, thank you, I know it's impressive. I've seen the link so many times from Dave's posts on the Schlock boards, I finally caved into my desire to see this wonderful comic.<P>I must say, I like it. Reminds me a lot of Boxjam's doodle (the only other self-referential slice-of-life comic I've seen), but with slightly more elaborate art and more (didn't think it was possible) self-deprecation. Bravo. Hope you keep it up.<P>One question regarding the art, tho- Dave's glasses don't <I>really</I> look like that, do they? (O^O) There are doctors out there that can counsel and help with this condition.<P>-Pi-Who is so starved for personal contact that posting random topics to message boards and getting junk-mail are high points. (hmm... could that be turned into a comic?)</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Wow.<P>Thanks, Pi! I'm glad to get new readers, especially ones from the Schlock boards, where 99% of posts are intelligent and/or funny.<P>As far as my glasses are concerned, I have three answers:<P>(1) Say what? Condition?(2) No, they also have the little parts that go back to my ears.(3) <i>Nothing</i> I draw looks that way in real life. Heh. My facial hair is nowhere near that prominent, for one thing. I'm cursed with thin hair. My mustache is practically blonde, and the chin hair is very reddish... so yeah, I'm fudging.<P>I'm actually trying to cut back on the self-deprecation, but the process is difficult. See, I'm not really that filled with self-loathing in real life. In fact, I rather like myself. But when I sit down to do a comic, I face the fact that (a) I don't draw as well as I'd like, (b) my graphics program (MS-Paint, unfortunately) takes my scanned drawings and cuts the quality even more, (c) most funny events in my life are long-form -- meaning I could make them funny if you gave me five minutes to explain the joke, but in a comic strip, I don't have that leeway. So I start getting frustrated while drawing, and I decide to re-use old artwork, which gets me frustrated that I'm doing that <i>again</i>, and then I have trouble coming up with a good punch line, and I end up feeling like I ought to be doing something more constructive -- like working on my novel, since I made a New Year's resolution in 2000 to have the first draft done by Jan 1, 2001, and I'm still only 2/3 through with the first draft, and that's just like me to make a promise that I can't follow through on, and...<P>You see? It just builds up.<P>--Strange/Dave<P>P.S. -- <i>do</i> go read <url=http://www.toddandpenguin.com>Todd and Penguin</url> when you get the chance.<P>------------------<A HREF="http://viciouslies.keenspace.com" TARGET=_blank>Vicious Lies.</A> You can't handle the truth.Neurotic -- sane, but unhappy about it.

I can attest to the embellishment. Dave's beard (when I've seen it) immediately brings to mind the term "peach fuzz", and he's wiry, unlike depicted in the comic. (He is, however, deceptively strong. Go figure.)<P>Oh, and Dave, if you're looking to cut down self-deprecation, I think you're safe for now to rag on your siblings instead--or mine.<P>Lummox JR<P>------------------It's the 21st century; where's my flying car?

Yeah, Ann likes the goatee. Every now and then I threaten to shave it off, but I'd get carded for bubble gum.<P>Actually, every time I tell Ann I'm gonna shave it off, she tells me it's okay in this sighing, deeply-saddened-but-I'll-put-up-a-brave-front voice... It's like a child saying, "All right, you can go to the park without me. I'll just sit here and count my chicken pox."<P>Of course, if I <I>did</I> shave it off, I'd still draw Dave with it, now that it's established.<P>--Strange/Dave<P>Edit: I just re-read that, and it sounded harsh. It was meant to sound humorous. I get the same voice every time Ann mentions she wants a haircut. I like her with longer hair; she likes me with facial hair. I don't mind the goatee, really. I just wonder, every now and then, what my upper lip looks like. Although I did shave completely for an audition back in February, so at least I've seen it once since we got married.<P>------------------<A HREF="http://viciouslies.keenspace.com" TARGET=_blank>Vicious Lies.</A> You can't handle the truth.Neurotic -- sane, but unhappy about it.<p>[This message has been edited by Somebody Strange (edited 06-27-2001).]

Okay, got the chance. I just read the entire Todd and Penguin archive. It's gone into my bookmarks page too, now. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"><P>BTW, judging by the relative screen time and humor level of the characters, I think that Penguin needs to get top billing over Todd. Maybe Todd's a bigger name actor, but Penguin really makes the strip.<P><I>Coming to a KeenSpace near you, It's <a href="http://penguinandtodd.keenspace.com">Penguin and Todd</a>!!!</I><P>I think I like the sound of that.<P>-Pi<p>[This message has been edited by Pi (edited 06-28-2001).]

Thanks for reading! I almost didnt check back on this thread, sorry to wait so long to reply. You can post on my board if you want to be sure I will see the post.(Besides, I don't wanna turn Other-Dave's forum into talk about <i> my comic.</i> As for the name change, I don't think Todd would like that. I mean its one thing to be upstaged by Penguin, but to lose top billing, as well...it's bad enough for his ego that he works at a gas station.<P>~slightly less strange dave<P>------------------ <A HREF="http://toddandpenguin.keenspace.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://toddandpenguin.keenspace.com/</A>

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Somebody Strange:[BI'm glad to get new readers, especially ones from the Schlock boards, where 99% of posts are intelligent and/or funny.[/B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Wohoooo!!! I'm a one percent-er!!!<P>Chris/Kritter out<P>

<IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif"> I just finished reading the Vicious Lies archives too <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif"> They're great, really good, funny, good and great and really funny. and er... good. yes.<P>If I may ask one thing...why is it called Vicious Lies, exactly then?<P>------------------~Daniel the Willingham~Asking the question: Am I the only sane person around here??<A HREF="http://spacelosers.keenspace.com" TARGET=_blank>SPACE LOSERS</A>, that's my comic.