Loading order of programs at start up

I am not happy that my internet connection loads prior to my firewall
and Norton AV. I can prevent this by unpluggong my modem before start
up and connecting after but that is a pain,
Does anyone know of a way (program?) for setting the order on start
up ??

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"jim" <> wrote in message
news:...
> I am not happy that my internet connection loads prior to my firewall
> and Norton AV. I can prevent this by unpluggong my modem before start
> up and connecting after but that is a pain,
> Does anyone know of a way (program?) for setting the order on start
> up ??
>
Are you sure they are not?

The icons in the system tray are just graphic user interfaces for the
programs, my firewall (Kerio) loads before my broadband starts but the
Systray icon is one of the last to show up.

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On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 17:04:43 +0100, "D" <>
wrote:
>
>"jim" <> wrote in message
>news:...
>> I am not happy that my internet connection loads prior to my firewall
>> and Norton AV. I can prevent this by unpluggong my modem before start
>> up and connecting after but that is a pain,
>> Does anyone know of a way (program?) for setting the order on start
>> up ??
>>
>Are you sure they are not?
>
>The icons in the system tray are just graphic user interfaces for the
>programs, my firewall (Kerio) loads before my broadband starts but the
>Systray icon is one of the last to show up.
>

Thanks for info but how do you know that the firewall is loaded
first ??

"jim" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 17:04:43 +0100, "D" <>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"jim" <> wrote in message
> >news:...
> >> I am not happy that my internet connection loads prior to my firewall
> >> and Norton AV. I can prevent this by unpluggong my modem before start
> >> up and connecting after but that is a pain,
> >> Does anyone know of a way (program?) for setting the order on start
> >> up ??
> >>
> >Are you sure they are not?
> >
> >The icons in the system tray are just graphic user interfaces for the
> >programs, my firewall (Kerio) loads before my broadband starts but the
> >Systray icon is one of the last to show up.
> >
>
> Thanks for info but how do you know that the firewall is loaded
> first ??

If an unknown program tries to phone home or unknown incoming connection
happens Kerio will inform me before I even logon.

On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 17:22:20 +0100, "D" <>
wrote:
>
>"jim" <> wrote in message
>news:...
>> On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 17:04:43 +0100, "D" <>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"jim" <> wrote in message
>> >news:...
>> >> I am not happy that my internet connection loads prior to my firewall
>> >> and Norton AV. I can prevent this by unpluggong my modem before start
>> >> up and connecting after but that is a pain,
>> >> Does anyone know of a way (program?) for setting the order on start
>> >> up ??
>> >>
>> >Are you sure they are not?
>> >
>> >The icons in the system tray are just graphic user interfaces for the
>> >programs, my firewall (Kerio) loads before my broadband starts but the
>> >Systray icon is one of the last to show up.
>> >
>>
>> Thanks for info but how do you know that the firewall is loaded
>> first ??
>
>If an unknown program tries to phone home or unknown incoming connection
>happens Kerio will inform me before I even logon.
>

"jim" <> wrote in message
news:...
: On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 17:22:20 +0100, "D" <>
: wrote:
:
: >
: >"jim" <> wrote in message
: >news:...
: >> On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 17:04:43 +0100, "D" <>
: >> wrote:
: >>
: >> >
: >> >"jim" <> wrote in message
: >> >news:...
: >> >> I am not happy that my internet connection loads prior to my
firewall
: >> >> and Norton AV. I can prevent this by unpluggong my modem before
start
: >> >> up and connecting after but that is a pain,
: >> >> Does anyone know of a way (program?) for setting the order on start
: >> >> up ??
: >> >>
: >> >Are you sure they are not?
: >> >
: >> >The icons in the system tray are just graphic user interfaces for the
: >> >programs, my firewall (Kerio) loads before my broadband starts but the
: >> >Systray icon is one of the last to show up.
: >> >
: >>
: >> Thanks for info but how do you know that the firewall is loaded
: >> first ??
: >
: >If an unknown program tries to phone home or unknown incoming connection
: >happens Kerio will inform me before I even logon.
: >
:
: Thanks. Now I have to find out if ZoneAlarm does the same thing.
:

Your internet connection does not load before
your firewall or antivirus; both use services and
virtual devices that load invisibly, BEFORE the
GUI part that you see in the taskbar.

On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 15:46:48 GMT, in
<>
jim scrawled:
>I am not happy that my internet connection loads prior to my firewall
>and Norton AV. I can prevent this by unpluggong my modem before start
>up and connecting after but that is a pain,
>Does anyone know of a way (program?) for setting the order on start
> up ??
>
>TIA

"jim" <> wrote in message
news:...
> I am not happy that my internet connection loads prior to my firewall
> and Norton AV. I can prevent this by unpluggong my modem before start
> up and connecting after but that is a pain,
> Does anyone know of a way (program?) for setting the order on start
> up ??
>
> TIA

You want to see how well a PFW that's not integrated with the O/S is not
going to beat a malware program designed to get to the TCP/IP connection
first at boot and beat the PFW solution, then install my favorite little
test application Gator. You can install Active Ports (free) and put a
short-cut in the Start-up folder and set the Refresh Rate to High. Active
Ports will clearly show that a malware program can easily beat any PFW
solution that's not an integrated system component at boot.

"jim" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 17:22:20 +0100, "D" <>
> wrote:
> >
> >If an unknown program tries to phone home or unknown incoming connection
> >happens Kerio will inform me before I even logon.
> >
>
> Thanks. Now I have to find out if ZoneAlarm does the same thing.
>

On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 15:46:48 GMT, jim <> wrote:
>I am not happy that my internet connection loads prior to my firewall
>and Norton AV. I can prevent this by unpluggong my modem before start
>up and connecting after but that is a pain,
>Does anyone know of a way (program?) for setting the order on start
> up ??
>
>TIA
Thanks to everyone who replied. It was great to find out I was wrong
as to timing of loading.
Thanks again

jim <> wrote in news:6036c0l7np8co78sjoui2opmpuv844tpcr@
4ax.com:
> On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 15:46:48 GMT, jim <> wrote:
>
>>I am not happy that my internet connection loads prior to my firewall
>>and Norton AV. I can prevent this by unpluggong my modem before start
>>up and connecting after but that is a pain,
>>Does anyone know of a way (program?) for setting the order on start
>> up ??
>>
>>TIA
> Thanks to everyone who replied. It was great to find out I was wrong
> as to timing of loading.
> Thanks again

Unless you did a registry hack (not recommended) and configured something
like the TCP/IP Protocol Driver what services it was dependent upon
before it could start *Dependencies*, I doubt seriously that a PFW
solution service can get to the TCP/IP first and stop anything at boot.
Third party PFW solutions are not integrated O/S components.

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