UPDATE: Emmanuel Burriss was optioned along with Ryan Rohlinger. Bruce Bochy acknowledged it’s odd to have six outfielders, but Darren Ford’s late-inning legs have made an impact in games and they feel they have the infield covered. One other update: Bochy met with Miguel Tejada and said the club hasn’t lost confidence in him. In his briefing with reporters, Bochy described the SS-3B situation as a tri-toon with Tejada, Mark DeRosa and Mike Fontenot. Bochy made absolutely no promises of playing time, both in the infield and outfield. He said he’s committed to going with the hot hand. In other words, expect a different lineup every day.

The Giants haven’t made their roster moves official yet, but they’re going to activate Andres Torres and Mark DeRosa from the disabled list. Both are in tonight’s starting lineup against Arizona right-hander Ian Kennedy.

Corresponding moves might not be announced until after batting practice. We can surmise Ryan Rohlinger is going back to Fresno. The other trim will be either Darren Ford or Emmanuel Burriss. (I will try to tweet the corresponding moves when announced, but I’ve getting the Twitter Fail Whale all afternoon.)

The biggest development thus far: Miguel Tejada hits the bench. This is DeRosa’s chance to take the third base job and run with it — at least while Pablo Sandoval remains sidelined.

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Pat Burrell becomes the first outfielder to cede at-bats to Torres. Aaron Rowand will have to produce to keep the left field job, though. I’d expect Bruce Bochy will keep dabbling while trying to find the hottest hand.

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Hopefully Tejada to the bench will satisfy the Lunatic Fringe…although i am sure there will still be complaints about Rowand in the lineup and Fontenot batting third.

Rob

Please get Posey out of the 4 hole,, everything has gone south since last year when he was put in the 4 hole , including this year.. Its hard enough getting a handle on the pitching staff let alone the pressure of the 4 hole.. Huff, Pat , Ross heck anyone with more than 3 yrs can hit that hole for the Giants..

socal_49giants

Me likey.

doublejay

# 3 hole might be a problem all season once Lord Fontenot cools off and if Huff Daddy can’t shake the stigma that he never has two good years in a row…will have to do until the Panda gets back.

Go Giants!

VmanGfan

Its good to see Andres the Giant back as well as DeRosa, lets hope Marks play keeps Miggy on the bench for a while! Lets keep the pitching rolling!!! Its what makes us Giants!

Soon as Fontenot hits a funk, you can bet his ass will be on the bench.

Jim Ray Hart

Nate should have gotten this start instead of Rowand but Bochy still has man love for AR.

No Longer Long Suffering Giants Fan

Hers the 1st complaint about Rowand in the lineup. I have no problem with him getting playing time; he’s earned it. But so has Schierholtz. And with a tough righty pitching Ross in LF, Torres in CF and Nate in RF is not only the best defensive OF but the best offensive OF against righties.

Derosa should play too but I’m not the least bit ready to give up on Tejada, especially since Fontenot has a real problem going to his right on defense.

fabiani1233

I heart Bochy.

Hopefully, Burrell see’s plenty of action.

livefree

Hard to argue. With all the options Bochy has, this season so far hasn’t left much evidence that one combination is a whole lot better than another. My biggest concern is Huff’s “slump,” going on 4 months now including the end of last year. But if Pablo comes back strong, there are plenty of options there, too.
Biggest Sabean accomplishment continues to be roster depth.

steph

guys, boch always rides the hot hand. fontenot has been doing extremely well in the 3 spot and when/if he starts slumping he’ll either get benched or placed back in the lineup. until then stop complaining about something THAT IS WORKING

qtlaw

Fontenot is this year’s Torres.

Please can we have DeRosa give us the average DeRosa? We hit gold with Huff but before then every FA signing gave us immediate diminished returns (Durham/Alfonso).

If anything, we need to move Posey to 3 at some point; he’s our steadiest hitter with a good eye. Its way too early to panic, he’ll be fine (let’s not forget his AB against Oswalt in Gm. 5 of the NLCS.) He’s got hitting tools that many cannot even dream about.

Everything went south? The Giants were 41-40 or something like that when Posey became the starting catcher and clean-up hitter, and they drove the whole rest of the second half, with an August pause, that led to the playoffs then the World Series championship.

We’ve been fine with Posey in 4th.

That said, I would be OK with moving him to 5th, as he’s been struggling offensively this season, but once he starts hitting, back to 4th. I like him there, I think best hitters should be hitting 1st or 4th, with power in 4th. Good hitters are wasted in #3 spot according to regression tying runs scored to OBP and SLG.

Sweet

Balls wont drop in the outfield tonight

howtheyscored

Glad to see Rownad staying in there. We would be behind the Padres without hom. Also Burriss should go and Ford stay since DeRosa can play 2nd as well. The Brucer will play the hot hand as we know and it will all work out provide Rownad stays in the lineup. Sex time.

avwh

“if Huff Daddy can’t shake the stigma that he never has two good years in a row”

I’m not sure where this conventional wisdom came from.

Here’s Huff’s yr by yr OPS+ since 2002:

’02 135
’03 145
’04 124
’05 98
’06 108
’07 103
’08 137
’09 81
’10 138

So he had 3 very good to great years in a row in Tampa (’02-’04), one great year (’08) in Baltimore, and was horrible in’09 which he split between BAL and DET before his good-to-great year last year here. But I don’t see a Saberhagen-like even/odd split in his career stats.

I guess if you ignore everything before ’08, you might say he’s an every-other-year guy, but that seems unfair.

Foothills Ryan

Nice to have Rowand out of the leadoff. 7’s a good spot for him.

Are you all feelin’ a Huff Homer tonight ? I sure am.

Win day !

efrain

Like the lineup today, a modification of the lineup I figured would give us the best fighting chance this year. Hope DeRosa finally meets expectations and solidifies 3rd till Pablo gets back. That means Fontenot gets the bulk of work at SS (hopefully) and Tejada only pinch hits and gives Fontenot and DeRosa days off.

Outfield is really full and Bochy will continue having to play the hottest hand. Think with our pitching, defense has to get as much consideration as offense. That means Burrell, as much as he can do with his bat, may have to sit more.

Moving forward the only glaring hole is a backup SS. Perhaps with the issues around the league in many teams pens, perhaps Kroon and another fringe player can me moved for a defensive backup SS. Maybe the only tweak we need. Reyes would be great, but not at the expense of a starter or Wheeler.

Adam L

SIT. ROWAND.

Chavez Latrine

Belt is hitting over .400 in Fresno

efrain

@ avwh – thanks for providing the info and good post.

However, the only thing I would argue is that is 2011. That separates Huff 7+ years from the bulk of his good years. He is older and definitely has lost a few steps. All this factors into his up and down numbers the past few years. Would be nice if he equals his 2010 numbers, but odds are he won’t.

ClutchUp

Bochy is becoming the manager we did not think he was. 🙂

Wait til Souza sees this. He will run downtown and plant a big kiss on Mr. 8 1/3rds noggin’.

Here is my take. Torres and DeRosa “better me completely healthy” because if the achilles and or wrist flares up then we have to deal with each other on here screaming about Nate-Burrell and Miggy.

Bochy is sending a message to Burrell and Tejada, a message I did not think he would send on their first day back off of the injured list.

For all those (ahem MS) who were bashing Rowand in ST because someone wrote or god forbid tweated that Rowand had been quoted in some paper that he ONLY wanted to play CF…I never believed it because it probably originated out of Don and Charlies by some Cub reporter that had not been to bed.

IMO and heart of hearts = Renteria’s disrespected quote was another one that originated through an interpreter…sloshing through some umbrella drink or other adult beverage….

Mavo

Got to be Ford and Rohlinger sent down. Ford is too one-dimensional to fit on a modern ML roster. The days of Herb Washington being a designated pinch runner are over. In his days they had 9 or 10 man pitching staffs.. today most teams all carry 12 pitchers! If Ford can learn to hit some and lay down a bunt (to the right side of the diamond!) then he can maybe play at the ML.

ClutchUp

Or Alan Lewis….prehistoric knowledge…haha…before the entitlement or “I” or “Me” era….

Burriss has speed but Oh Lordy…nothing like the Ford Edsel.

logical

yip-dee-do
Yes Chavez,,,and Willy mo Pena is hitting 375 in Reno

Mavo

There is a item… Alan Lewis!! Had almost forgotten about that guy!!

Ford is a great threat on the bases.. not sure he really is that skilled a base stealer.. he does it with just pure SPEED! But a guy like that should be watching films of Maury Wills and Brett Butler.. he should be an outstanding bunter by now.. he has a number of years in pro ball already. The fact that he has NOT learned the relatively simple art of bunting … tells me he is a one trick pony.. SPEED!!

garykank

@obsessivegiantscompulsive thank you, couldn’t have said it better myself.

When I read what @Rob wrote I was thinking …. what???? Everything’s gone south? Um, World Series Champ … ROY? Hello?

Renteria’s quotes regarding being “disrespected” were pretty clear, and repeated several times in different ways in different sentences. That being said, perhaps hyperbole is more of a way of life in Columbia. That being said, to completely beat a very dead horse, Renteria might have said, “Golly, thanks for overpaying me like crazy for the last two years” rather than belly-aching about a million dollars.

VmanGfan

It sure would be nice to have an offense to match our pitching and go from a team that has to score just enough runs to win 3-4 per game, to an offense that averages 5+ runs per game to help alleviate some pressure from the pitching staff. Bochy will do the best he thinks is possible with the staff he has available. We as fans have to believe in him and our team! GO GIANTS!!!!!!!!

Mike Souza

@Clutch Up-Comment#22- HaHa. Great lineup indeed! 😉

Mavo

If I was managing Ford.. he’d have bleeding hands from all the bunting and BP he’d get. And everytime he took an uncontrolled HR hack.. he’d be fined! If he learned what Maury Wills did.. choke up.. hit DOWN on the ball … and learn to be a constant threat to bunt.. he’d already be a fulltime big leaguer!! It is a crime when a guy like Ford hits one in the air. With his speed he’d hit close to .300 by following the above advice.

But he probably is stubborn and wants to hit the long ball … because that is macho … and besides we all know that “CHICKS DIG THE LONG-BALL!!”

GiantsFanFromNY

I miss the Panda

Mavo

Baggs just tweeted that Burriss got sent down! Mistake! So they are enamored by Ford’s speed.. and now they only have Tejada backing up the whole infield?? Six OF’s is ridiculous!!

Chris Boyd

Tejada will become a SS only after Fontenot cools off AND a lefty is pitching. He will also spot start at third for DeRosa, unless DeRosa’s wrists stays twitchy OR he hits .197 again. I would think it’s DeRosa’s to loose given the anemia of Tejada’s first six weeks. I am sure Miggy will have a hammy or something flare up in about 5-6 weeks once his Panda clock runs out.

The biggest thing to watch will be the usage of Schierholtz during this stretch. According to Schulman’s article today, Nate is well placed in the team and I would figure with Torres return, that there might be some consideration to Ford being the 5th outfielder over Nate. Henry’s read give me some pause to that thought.

Ford is a luxury I love having on the bench, and his defence may not be quite as exemplary as Schierholtz but it looked purty good. I don’t think Nate has any chance at replacing Fords running in late game situations. Burris had his tries to show he could drive a like a Ford and didnt’ quite compete. So even though defensively Manny’s a better add roster wise; offensively, where we have bigger struggles, Ford adds more pitch running for Burrell after he walks.

I would be very tempted to keep six outfielders until Belt comes up. This would mean relegating Tejada to the DL when the Panda is ready. Alas, Bochy probably want more infield options than DeRosa, Fontenot, Sanchez, Huff and Sandoval and you really need to have a back up option for SS besides DeRosa. Although, with what I have seen, he can’t be any worse than Tejada, and I have no problem giving Ford Miggy’s roster spot. Tejada’s only contribution was the Rasmus dropped Flyout on Opening Day and I can get lot for Ford’s situational base running even if he’s only hitting .222 (which is almost 30 point higher than Miggy’s .195) Heck for .195, let’s bring back Brian Bocock!

Still, for any reason playoff run consideration, we need the Panda we saw until the injury to return and stabilize the three hole once Fontenot returns to human levels. And if nothing else we need another defensive option at short than DeRosa/Rohlinger/Burriss. Recalling Belt mean we loose Ford until September and if and when Sabean deals for a shortstop. Hopefully the SS can run like Ford too, that would be a huge WIN!

El Lobo

Not sure I should be surprised by the Burriss send down. I don’t view Ford as a backup outfielder as much as a game changing speed guy for a specific situation, just like Lopez was a lefty on lefty guy last year. Burriss wasn’t going to see any time, just as Rohlinger didn’t.

I wouldn’t be surprised if we see a rotation in infield, with Franchez getting the most starts, then Fontenot, then a tie between Miggy and DeRosa based upon the match-ups, hot hands, need for a day, the weather and what DeRosa’s wife is wearing.

I won’t even attempt to predict the outfield on a day to day basis; will only be surprised if Ford plays defensively until he eventually gets sent down.

BTW, Fontenot is hitting much better against lefties.

Pastor Joe

#7 – No Long Suffering Giants Fan

Fontenot has a problem going to his right? At least he CAN go to his right. Tejada catches MOST of what comes right to him (although he does sometimes have to make a dramatic swoon afterwards) and then he double clutches everything he does get.

Fontenot may not be anyone’s dream shortstop, but he’s a definite upgrade both with the glove and the bat from the Tejada we got (if not the Tejada that USED to be).

The problem is that Schierholtz during his MLB career has had problems hitting RHP, which is a very unfortunate problem as he should be raking RHP. He could have great career killing RHP while doing OK against LHP.

He has done much better this season, hewing to normal platoon splits, though obviously SSS. He appears to be being more aggressive with the RHP up now, as he is striking out more but also hitting for more power, so his BABIP is actually just about right, meaning there is no regression probable right now, he’s where he’s suppose to be. Plus he’s great in the OF and on the basepaths.

Michael

“everything has gone south since last year when he was put in the 4 hole ”
Yeah, they might have gone somewhere if not for that..

Mavo

I think it is a mistake to keep Ford over Burriss… Ford is a one-trick pony! The thing is … his one trick is quite flashy and dramatic! I’d rather have the flexibility to PH for one of my infielders during a tight game to take advantage of matchups. Besides Ford has gotten gunned down a few times already.. he is NOT that good a base stealer unless he guesses right and gets a huge jump. Burris also has + speed and hits lefthanded to boot! BAD DECISION!!!

Giants fan in DC

I actually like this line up. Deep bench. Exercising our potential starters. I hope Bochy doesn’t expect Torres and DeRosa to go on a tear the first day back from DL.

Minus Belt and Sandoval, we’re pretty much looking at our post season line up.

efrain

@ Mavo – wholeheartedly agree on Ford, he is not in his first 2 years, has been around long enough to have learned the basics of base stealing and bunting. He is still a fringe player at best.

@K&J – “Columbia” is a university in NYC, “Colombia” is a country. Before you make a crack that smacks of racism, best you learn how to make it correctly.

Both Renteria and Uribe made comments in Spanish media they felt disrespected, and some of the complaints seemed to have merit. While Renteria is at the end of his career and perhaps the money was an issue of more than the Giants were willing to pay, I feel Uribe had more of a case. He kept worked hard for the team for his 3 years, providing leadership and played well wherever he played. However, the team extends an offer to one year wonder Huff for 22$/2yrs and stalls on Uribe. Anyone else would have said, “WTF?” It’s to also BS the team made a last ditch effort before he signed with the Dodgers. That was done primarily to save face. I grew up cheering for Jose Uribe, and over the past few years I really enjoyed reliving the Uribe chant. I’m sure if Sabean had tried harder we wouldn’t be worrying about SS right now or if Pablo was injured.

On top of that what do we get? A verrrrry slow start for Huff, who 1) most likely will not equal his 2010 numbers, and 2) keep Belt in the minors and not at 1B where he can help more. Basically a royal Sabean screw-up and deserves to be called on it.

Cannonball

Wah?

First, let me express my pre-thanksgiving thanks for FINALLY getting Tejada out of the Lineup. As Splashing Pumpkin recently posted: he is literally THE WORST person (sorry player – “good person”) in ALL of baseball w/ a wRC+ of 26!
(Shaggy aka Swamp Thing with a overachieving, yet still beautiful, wRC+ of 139)

BUT – Why sit Burrell and not Rowand against a righty. Rowand (thank the turkey for all that Rowand has given us this year also) is still bad against RHPs. And Burrell gives quality at bats (plus is actually BETTER against RHPs this year than lefties!
Rowand: .597 OPS vs. RHPs (1.035 vs. LHP)
Burrell: .958 OPS vs. RHPs (.480 vs. LHP)

Dpass

Any body got the Giants numbers against this pitcher and visa versa?

uncle joe mccarthy

burris sent down over ford?

burris has speed….and now we lose a middle if

miggs off the bench is a joke

Channelclemente

Remember Fontenot is a 2B and Tejada is listed as a SS. Seat belts please, your going to see Torres and Ford in CF or maybe Torres in LF with Ford in CF. I think we’re going to run a bit.

SFGiants25

Nice to see Tejada take a seat this game. Goooooo Giants!!!!

Mavo

All this excitement over Ford and the kid is only 3 for 6 in SBs so far! Not what I think is good value for giving up another player with speed that hits lefty!! I think their NUTS with this decision.. limits what Bochy can do in late innings of ballgames.

Since “62

I’m just hoping Torres’ performance last season was part of a career season, and that Ross is all everyone is making him out to be.
Ford is very, very unproven.
Oh well, let’s see what happens.
Go Giants!!!!!!!!!!!

luke mcwarmsky

i guess i’m happy about finally benching te-nada. hope rowand is gone before he turns back into a pumpkin…

btw guys, his numbers are about league average or a bit below right now for a center fielder. he usually starts off better than he ends

dare in ford

Don’t expect torres and derow to rake out the gate – look at Ross’ start. Have to trust lineup tweaker – he got us the ring…

Poopoosah

Nice lineup. I love Khalil Greene batting 3rd.

Neilson

Burrell > Rowand

ClutchUp

@ Mavo – I feel your pain about Ford. Bochy 2 1/2 hours before pitch one being interviewed by Jon Miller…paused and paused…doing that funny Bochy-speak about Manny going down and the Edsel staying with the big club….Bochy said he could barely FIT all the outfielders in his office when he called THEM all in to discuss tonight’s moves.

Guess that Ford will be used a lot even early trying to get run 2 or 3 – towards a final high water mark of 4 during all these games.

@ Pastor Joe – Fontenot going up the middle while playing SS is more natural for him because as a bonifide 2baseman they “all” learn that going-to-their-left move playing 2b, however at 2b its usually of “a leave-your-feet variety” (slide) and at SS he needs to stay ON his feet. The SS’s play in the 6 hole is more taxing than the 2bman up the middle.

@ obsessivegiantscompulsive – I think with Nate all the BABIP stuff and the wOBA gizmo – and splits – will never apply. It’s purely Bochy-Wotus and Flannery’s gut vs. either the opposing starting pitcher OR the pitcher he is facing as a pinch hitter. Nates’ got a pass regarding + or – stats. Just watch him or them play and you can tell “when he/they are in a slump, nothing to do with the Bill James Bible – in this particular case.

I still think tonight’s Bochy has a Peter Graves mask on and it might be Dave Bristol or Dannie Ozark, because him starting Torres and DeRo on their first day back was un-Bochy-like. Torres I understand…but at least starting DeRo and sitting Miggy made all the experts happy on here 🙂

ClutchUp

@ efrain:

Entirely possible about the quotes being accurate but I thought that the Renteria and Uribe issues were polar opposites. Many thought Edgar might retire with the WS MVP trophy but he does spend a lot of money in his homeland with his projects and BB academys.

Uribe is a quiet man and me thinks you nailed it on the head. He was looking for that MLB-Player reward to be fullfilled per the system that the owners have allowed to come into play. Owners make a gazillion in coin on the TV rights…

Uribe from a Giant prospective did not deserve 3 yrs BUT me personally I would have gone two yrs with one of the years heavily loaded with incentives….Uribe’s intangibles fit PERFECTLY with Bochy’s way of coaching, but he’s an LA “Bum” now (“da bums” and life goes on….

Obrother

I like Ford for his base running. Last year in that game that he scored on a steal then a wild pick off were one of the games we had to win. We don’t use ford and were out of the playoffs by one game. Were only beating teams by one run in many games thus far so in my opinion we need him as a ponce runner period. Yea if he gets some bunts great but I like him late in games. He’ll be a big part of the giants this year and I hope we keep him.

Obrother

If ford doesn’t pinch run Posey don’t think posey scores on Ross hit. That’s why we need Ford. Steals second. No way posey steals second. Ford has been great for playing in so few games.

Monterey

Another walk off win. Looks like the team has got its mojo back.

It was just a matter of time. This is a good team!… as I’ve said numerous times on here!!

They will have more ups and downs– & all the negative nellies will come out again & whine when they lose 2 in row! — but they will be there, in the hunt, at the end of the year.

A dose of reality. The Giants cannot win a World Series again with hitting like this. Timmy pitched beautifully but if he would have made just one mistake the Giants would have lost. They need to make the trade now! Go get Reyes. Shore up your leadoff spot, your Shortstop position, and another stolen base threat. Yes, 1 game behind, for now. Yes, Sandoval will be back in a month. However, will he gain weight? Will his hand bother him for the rest of the season? Belt will come up but you can’t rely on him batting .400, obviously. Tejada is done. Fontenot is a back up and defensively he has not looked very good. DeRosa, who knows but don’t count on him? The longer the Giants wait the more expensive Reyes gets. Do it tonight!

avwh

The Giants have now scored 11 runs on this homestand…and have gone 4-0.

luke mcwarmsky

all the talk is about trading for reyes. what about a. ramirez of the chisox? he’s a good shortstop in his prime on a terrible team. how about a package for him?

El Lobo

Reyes would have gone 0 for 4 tonight the way Kennedy was pitching. I’ll take the Giants bullpen against anybody with a tie game in late innings.

Mike Souza

Complaining after a great win & talking about trading for a player who is always hurt, very over rated, & not even guaranteed to be here in 2012. Gotta luv it!

Monterey

This team’s offense was built on the idea that if some players are cold, the other hot players will take up the slack.

All the hitters have some power (except maybe Ford). Everyone has the potential to be the hero on any given night.

The problem they were having early on is that 6 out of their 8 hitters were ice cold at the same time…and they had a lot of injuries… and their defense was slumping… and their pitching wasn’t sharp…

The result was a slow start.

It was obvious to me– and should have been obvious to everyone here– they were playing below their abilities. Eventually they would tighten up the play and start winning more games.

NOW they’re playing sharper ball all around. The result is 4 wins in a row. These are the real Giants. This is how they should have been playing since opening day.

This has been mentioned numerous times by different posters: Hitting will be hot & cold, but the Giants are going to live or die with their PITCHING.

The time to really worry is when their pitching goes south.

dan

the g’s just bore me to death. it is good that they are winning but I will wait til the PO.

bullship

The ramerez of the sox is a good idea….or a player like that….the giants need an EVERYDAY SS that is signed or signable for 2-3 years….or otherwise, just limp through….my guess is the giants continue to rely on their pitching bullpen and starters until the trade deadline and then maybe find a player or two…until then they are gonna have to find ways to win like tonight…still I like this club…they can gell….if they can get 80 games with torres, pablo, posey, Ross, sanchez and huff in the lineup I think they win the division….and playoffs are all about the pitching….

A few myths rebuffed! First REYES IS NOT ALWAYS HURT! He got hurt ONCE! It took him a year and a half to get back to full strength which he is now!

Rekshtr 63. Reyes will be happy anywhere that pays him. Especially a hipper, cleaner version of NY (San Francisco) that won’t trash him like the media there does. Also, the Giants are not the Mets. They are the World Champions. Who doesn’t want to go there?

Luke 65 You are half right. Rameriz is ok, and not on the block. If the Giants trade for a White sox SS it will be Viszquel. Still can pick it at short with the same offensive output as before (none). SF loves him and if defense is the key with Sandoval back & Belt on the team that is more reasonable than Rameriz.

Guys, the Giants won. That is great. However, stop drinking the Kool-Aid. The offense is not good. They can’t keep winning this way! If you look at all the guys on the block Reyes is the best fit on all levels for the Giants. Are you telling me you would rather have Fontenot & Tejada? C’mon!

TheCity

Had a class to attend tonight. Got in the car a little after 9 and heard the 9th inning. Got home just in time to see the replays of the walk-off. Earlier was bummed I was missing the game. But now I know, I didn’t miss anything (heh!) except maybe watching Lincecum pitch a gem!

As for all the desperation trades people are proposing:

1)You need to consider who we would have to give up – almost none of you are doing this in your proposals. (It’s meaningless after all to fantasize over who we can get, without considering who we’d lose)

2. It’s not worth it to trade good prospects or a veteran for a rent-a-player.

That said, if a package of 2 veterans, say Fontenot and one of our outfielders (like Rowand) could get Reyes (only with a contract extension) then it might be worth it.

TheCity

Come to think of it though (re my last post): if the Mets are looking to dump salary then they probably wouldn’t take Rowand. Might have to instead give up someone like Nate.

mitchvman

You are always going to have to give up something to get something. With the Mets that something is minor leaguers, maybe Nate Schierholtz too. The object is to win a World Series. Zach Wheeler & Thomas Neal, etc., may or may not be studs in the bigs. however, either way you won’t know for 4 years. The Giants could be on their 5th Ring by then!