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*p00f*I had this idea a while ago and finally getting around to doing something about it!

Below are some ideas for T-shirts. I don't know how many different T's we can have...depends on the setup costs (which I have not researched yet). I also plan on asking our awesome artist to help with some designs.

avatar's of the top 20 users on this site, instant recognition.

Top 11 reasons to be a Yazirian; #3We wear sungoggles during the day. Not because the sun affects our
vision, but when you're cool like us the sun shines all the time.

GJD's updated Knight Hawks cover form Issue 11

One of our favorite maps from the game (or images)

Custom artwork by one of our artists

Star Frontiersman logo

I'm sure you all have better ideas. Once we get a bunch I'll create a public poll off-site so SF-UN, sf.org and sf.info can vote.

POSTED IDEAS

FRONT: I survived the Volturnus Expedition (needs a pic)BACK: I also mind linked with a Ul-Mor (pic of an ul-mor mind linking with a human?)

FRONT: Pic of Yaz wearing sungoggles "Top 11 reasons to be a Yazirian; #3We wear sungoggles during the day. Not because the sun affects our
vision, but when you're cool like us the sun shines all the time.
" In addition I would add most of SS post with slight modifications to the wording (make it family friendly). SS would be credited on the T-Shirt, OK?BACK: (Star Frontiers Font) Join the Revival @ http://starfrontiers.us with the addition of Imperial Lord's comment AND any other's we can fit on the shirt;

11. We were here first. The rest of y'all migrated.10. We can fly. Well,
glide...but it's pretty close. 9. There's monkey strength, and
there's enraged strength. Then there's enraged monkey strength, which allows the
weakest yaz to tear others' limbs from their sockets (or pseudopods from their
nuclei). 8. We can see at night. Makes us better
killers. 7. Secret clan handshakes. 6. Do you really want to be on one of our life enemy lists? 5. We might have the shortest lifespan, but we live and play the
hardest.4. We fornicate for pleasure, just like humans. Female humans call us
animals for more than one reason...see #5 3. We wear sungoggles during
the day. Not because the sun affects our vision, but when you're cool like us
the sun shines all the time. 2. Better dexterity & reaction speed in
lieu of strength makes us better shooters. See # 6 & #8. We're also smarter
and more attentive.1. "See that tat on my arm? That's a Black Mandrill,
we're feared throughout the Frontier!"

Borlo Gorulo, "We all know that the Dralasites are the best - Humans are boring, Vrusk are too
stiff, and Yazirians too Klingon-like."

1. Never have to figure out what to wear.2. Can
roll about in a ball (Very useful for hills!)3. Blobbiness great for
looking around corners.4. Can be nicknamed "Flex"5. Have names like
"Borlo" and "Dorboru" - compare that with the Vrusk names!6. Sniffing out
liars7. Can eat/drink with hands - or any other part.8. Can identify
people from their funk.9. Strong and staminous10. That awesome third
leg.

FRONT: 20 or so avatar's of our top members (50 if I do front and back)BACK:(Star Frontiers Font) Join the Revival @ http://starfrontiers.us

FRONT: GJD's updated Knight Hawks cover form Issue 11BACK: Some other image on the back with Join the Revival!

(Rum Rogue in chat)FRONT: Some have wandered so far from the frontier they just cant find the way back. Let us help. JOIN THE REVIVAL !BACK:I'm sure the back of the shirt should have more than Join the Revival.

This site's logo or header up above is a cool idea- maybe rearrange the images in it into a vertical format to fit a T shirt better. Use the images for the back of the shir and the SF logo for the front. shirt color: black

reasons to be a Yaz works too.

I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

Except CafePress may have issues with using a copyrighted logo (the SF font). I had way too many problems with them for my motorcycle forum products, it was major tooth pulling to convince them that the model designation "VLX" is not just in use by the manufacturer who makes that bike (it's also a boat model and some piece of PC software among other things), not to mention the convincing it took to use the logo I had designed.

I swear I spent more time with the legal mumbo jumbo than I did on dial up putting the shop together, designing the logo, polling forum members for slogans and pictures, etc etc etc...

I'm not overly fond of Zeb's Guide...nor do I have any qualms stating why.

CafePress is an option along with other ideas I'm investigating. I might have them done locally and ship them myself. If we follow the same rules that WoTC told Bill (make no money on your products) we should be OK.

Think about shirts your wife and kids would want as well.

Would you guys pay more money for a shirt if the money was used to run a Star Frontiers Con east of the Mississippi?

Let's stop discussions on this point. I'll handle all the legal stuff. You guys just come up with ideas and let me know who is interested. If I'm the only one that wants T-shirts it's really a moot point.

I vote for a url on the back and a graphic from one of the covers of the boxes of books on the front. Or maybe that Alpha Dawn intro page with all of the Core Four walking forward with weapons. That's cool.

How about "Star Frontiersman" in the zines cover font done small and over the left breast on the front then the image of the winning cover (from a as yet to be had poll voting for the best cover to date) done large on the back and the words above the image saying, "Join The Revival!"and on the bottom of the would be the web site adress.Shirt color any color you want as long as its black.

simple idea, promotes zine and I'd wear it.

to run the pole start a thread for people to nominate their favorite cover then compile and run a pole.

if it sells do a new shirt each year with only that year's covers in the running.

I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

Great idea's!Let's run with it. Everyone can come up with a layout idea based on Jedi's suggestion and post a thumbnail in this thread. Use any SFman cover you want. I'll create a poll for 13 covers (Issue 13 is due out in 2 weeks). Here is a preview.

I like that cover, but remove the text and magazine peripherals from the image, and put the Star Frontiersman logo just above it, but attached to the upper edge (that is, no space between the image and the logo and the logo would stretch from the left edge of the image to the right edge, large sized.

I was thinking that the Star Frontiersman needs a mascot... just a small image in the corner or in the name of a futuristic looking individual.

I think the montage would would not be so good but just the cover image with the zine name stretched across the top and none of the zine cover stuff added would be best. done large on the back and the zine's name and the mascot done small on the front left breast. Maybe the mascot could be leaning on the zine's logo/name

So what race for a mascot? Yaz, dral or vrusk? I like the vrusk but I think people identify with them the least. Yaz or dral would be readily identifiable but would someone object if over obvious IP of WOTC and cause the zine trouble?

EDIT: So will I need a plug in or new soft ware to view the holo- corder version of issue 13?

I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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