Post by popsicle sarah on Nov 28, 2012 20:45:54 GMT -5

SFA, Sarah, Zen and Abra, knowing that one of the quiet players is always Mafia, would you consider a vote switch for either Roo or Zen (clearly not Zen to vote for herself) to put one of them in the run-off too.

I could get behind this. It'd take 2 votes for zen and 3 for roo. I'm down for whichever. I do like the idea of a 3 person run-off so vote switches might be more obvious.

Post by popsicle sarah on Nov 28, 2012 20:57:40 GMT -5

SFA, Sarah, Zen and Abra, knowing that one of the quiet players is always Mafia, would you consider a vote switch for either Roo or Zen (clearly not Zen to vote for herself) to put one of them in the run-off too.

I could get behind this. It'd take 2 votes for zen and 3 for roo. I'm down for whichever. I do like the idea of a 3 person run-off so vote switches might be more obvious.

But if we're gonna do this, we gotta do it soon. I have a terrible headache and after I get back from taking my mom to the store I'm going to bed. I'll check in once more before I zzzzzz. Who you switching to LLL?

Post by moose200x on Nov 28, 2012 20:59:18 GMT -5

Does anyone else get the feeling that LLL is simply trying to muddy the waters to protect Abra? She says that a quiet member is ALWAYS mafia yet never once sided with me during any of the four hundred times I said "Lynch all Lurkers".

I bet the reason Abra left the phi wagon is so she can vote change if she feels town is going to lynch her.

And that is a strong move regardless if most players think it doesn't help mafia to suicide vote like that. Mafia comes out ahead bcuase on day two we all already know that Abra will get lynched. The rest of the mafia can easily distance from her.

Post by kikosanchez on Nov 28, 2012 21:53:34 GMT -5

Yes, there's usually a quiet mafia, but even moreso there is ALWAYS a controlling mafia. Someone trying to control the game and veer its course, while trying to seem overly neutral. At this point, I don't see anyone controlling it that much, so I'd be down for sticking in a quiet person like I've said twice already. No one seems to be willing to change votes though.

Post by superfurryanimal on Nov 28, 2012 22:01:11 GMT -5

Does anyone else get the feeling that LLL is simply trying to muddy the waters to protect Abra? She says that a quiet member is ALWAYS mafia yet never once sided with me during any of the four hundred times I said "Lynch all Lurkers".

LLL's internet has been down the last couple days, so she might not have even been around when you were talking about that.

And she's really not the type of player that would risk helping fellow mafia so blantently this early on.

But yeah, I guess you could say all those vote changes would defo muddy up the waters when looking back later on in the game.

I bet the reason Abra left the phi wagon is so she can vote change if she feels town is going to lynch her.

Maybe I'm not following your math here. She would end up voting for Phi in a runoff anyway? Maybe I'm missing something in the vote switches but I don't find this that suspicious.

And that is a strong move regardless if most players think it doesn't help mafia to suicide vote like that. Mafia comes out ahead bcuase on day two we all already know that Abra will get lynched. The rest of the mafia can easily distance from her.

Post by superfurryanimal on Nov 28, 2012 22:05:09 GMT -5

SFA, Sarah, Zen and Abra, knowing that one of the quiet players is always Mafia, would you consider a vote switch for either Roo or Zen (clearly not Zen to vote for herself) to put one of them in the run-off too.

This would be fine with me. I don't know which I would choose. I kind of feel that if Zen was mafia then her other mafia buddies whould have explaned that she needs to post more. If I was mafia with her in he first game that would be one of the things I would coach her to do.....

But I don't see Roo getting three votes in two hours.

Phi and Abra, who would you choose ?

Edit: to ask question.

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Post by kikosanchez on Nov 28, 2012 22:16:55 GMT -5

We would know that Abra is mafia only if she does do a backstab move and vote for phi seconds before midnight giving him 4 votes which makes him the one to die.

no mafia or townie would ever do this, it would be suicide.

Actually I did this my first game on the first day to save you and kill viking, but he was saved by a power storm since Fawn the narrator wasn't able to log on. I don't think Mafia would ever do this though, far too much exposure.

Post by moose200x on Nov 28, 2012 22:36:48 GMT -5

Please, pretty pretty please don't lynch Phi! His being at the top helps none. Put Abra and LLL in the runoff and see some fireworks as mafia member fight amongst themselves for survival.

Why is it OK for you to try so hard to save Phi? If someone was doing this about Abra you would call them out.

I agree 100%. Calling people out is pro-town. Trying to lynch and trying to save people is also pro-town. It leaves a trail. It give information. These day one posts are so important and mafia knows that they have to be careful with what they say and who they protect.

Townies don't have the same fear. I don't really care if you lynch me, if my lynch gives the town information then it's all good.

Post by ntellier85 on Nov 28, 2012 22:40:04 GMT -5

SFA, to answer your question, I would obv choose roonectar since he currently has a vote on me and has yet to explain why. And as a townie I obviously assume anyone who would vote for me over Abra is more likely to be mafia.

Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Nov 28, 2012 22:47:17 GMT -5

Does anyone else get the feeling that LLL is simply trying to muddy the waters to protect Abra? She says that a quiet member is ALWAYS mafia yet never once sided with me during any of the four hundred times I said "Lynch all Lurkers".

I bet the reason Abra left the phi wagon is so she can vote change if she feels town is going to lynch her.

And that is a strong move regardless if most players think it doesn't help mafia to suicide vote like that. Mafia comes out ahead bcuase on day two we all already know that Abra will get lynched. The rest of the mafia can easily distance from her.

There is also ZERO reason phi is even in this race...

I made it pretty clear I would have done the same for ANYONE. Read my post man. If you bother to go back and read any of our previous games, you will also see that I frequently say that a quiet player is always Mafia. No surprise I would say that here. And I find it funny that you want me to have let Abra die, but you are fighting so hard for Phi? Mafia partners?

Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Nov 28, 2012 22:49:56 GMT -5

Go back and read some games bro. We never let someone get straight voted off first round with no run-off. To do so would by unheard of, Highly suspicious, and likely a Mafia push. Mafia have a voting advantage over us. They can sway the votes how they like to an extent. For one player to get voted off with no run-off, it means that the Mafia ARE FINE with that player getting voted off. And that was happening with Abra.

Post by abrakapokus on Nov 28, 2012 23:02:20 GMT -5

The reason I voted for Phi to begin with is because he's usually very loud and he wasn't. I was trying to get a reaction out of him at least get some chat started. Then when he started defending people and cast his vote on me for "switching my votes around" while he was doing the same. Quoting post counts is something mafia does all the time to show they have been active without really saying anything. So that is why I was suspicious of Phi to begin with. I switched my vote for Moose because it was as if he was trying to think up BS reasons why I should be voted for and he seemed like he was trying, along with phi, to protect SFA.

Why is it OK for you to try so hard to save Phi? If someone was doing this about Abra you would call them out.

I agree 100%. Calling people out is pro-town. Trying to lynch and trying to save people is also pro-town. It leaves a trail. It give information. These day one posts are so important and mafia knows that they have to be careful with what they say and who they protect.

Townies don't have the same fear. I don't really care if you lynch me, if my lynch gives the town information then it's all good.

I actually agree with you. If I get voted off I think that the townies will be able to go back and look for links in the shit storm that was caused to root out mafia.

This protecting Phi and SFA is really quite interesting. Who in their right mind would protect PHILLIS?? (aside from mafia )