Comments on: Steps at Stevens: Designing a safe path to the west side of ‘Westside’http://westseattleblog.com/2014/02/steps-at-stevens-designing-a-safe-path-to-the-west-side-of-westside/
West Seattle news, 24/7Sun, 02 Aug 2015 20:33:40 +0200hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2By: Ianhttp://westseattleblog.com/2014/02/steps-at-stevens-designing-a-safe-path-to-the-west-side-of-westside/#comment-1252001
IanFri, 28 Feb 2014 22:36:17 +0000http://westseattleblog.com/?p=266264#comment-1252001Curtis, it is not snarky, it is logic. There are 2 lighted cross walks there that have very few, if any, issues as it is. They are safe already and this is not needed. I agree with you, if they feel they have a hole burning in their pocket they should do something with it that will serve a better purpose.Curtis, it is not snarky, it is logic. There are 2 lighted cross walks there that have very few, if any, issues as it is. They are safe already and this is not needed. I agree with you, if they feel they have a hole burning in their pocket they should do something with it that will serve a better purpose.
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curtisFri, 28 Feb 2014 17:28:44 +0000http://westseattleblog.com/?p=266264#comment-1251845Apparently my comment yesterday was too snarky? I still think that this is quite silly. The Picture at the top of this story shows a lighted and market crosswalk headed to a sidewalk. I just don't get the need for a $20,000 anything here. Maybe buy some textbooks or reduce the price of the yearbooks?Apparently my comment yesterday was too snarky? I still think that this is quite silly. The Picture at the top of this story shows a lighted and market crosswalk headed to a sidewalk. I just don’t get the need for a $20,000 anything here. Maybe buy some textbooks or reduce the price of the yearbooks?
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WSBFri, 28 Feb 2014 05:51:09 +0000http://westseattleblog.com/?p=266264#comment-1251531For those interested, the project organizers have forwarded a text doc with a story that is apparently in the latest edition of the WSHS news publication but is not online. I'm adding it, embedded via Scribd, above.For those interested, the project organizers have forwarded a text doc with a story that is apparently in the latest edition of the WSHS news publication but is not online. I’m adding it, embedded via Scribd, above.
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StringCheeseFri, 28 Feb 2014 04:45:35 +0000http://westseattleblog.com/?p=266264#comment-1251502@Ian, I was speaking more broadly of the city's lack of accountability when it comes to street issues around schools. Roxhill continues to have multiple issues concerning Roxbury and, most recently, there is the failure of the city to secure safety on Delridge prior to the opening of K-5 STEM.
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The city has been aware of the fact that 85% of the cars traveling down Delridge are doing so at over the 35mph. Not to mention the 20mph school zone that is almost universally ignored. It has been known since February of 2012 that an elementary school was opening on this site. However, flashing beacons (though installed a month ago) are still not operational. Then there is the need for a mid-street crosswalk that was brought to the city's attention in June of 2012 that was willfully ignored. So, families are put in a real-life game of frogger. 350 students travel to and from school on Delridge everyday. Next year, with the co-location of Arbor Heights, that number will double. How is it that the city doesn't feel a responsibility to ensure 700 students can safely, walk, bus, bike, or ride to school everyday?
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Again, how is there not a law demanding traffic safety measures be in place BEFORE a school (new or reopened) opens its doors?@Ian, I was speaking more broadly of the city’s lack of accountability when it comes to street issues around schools. Roxhill continues to have multiple issues concerning Roxbury and, most recently, there is the failure of the city to secure safety on Delridge prior to the opening of K-5 STEM.
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The city has been aware of the fact that 85% of the cars traveling down Delridge are doing so at over the 35mph. Not to mention the 20mph school zone that is almost universally ignored. It has been known since February of 2012 that an elementary school was opening on this site. However, flashing beacons (though installed a month ago) are still not operational. Then there is the need for a mid-street crosswalk that was brought to the city’s attention in June of 2012 that was willfully ignored. So, families are put in a real-life game of frogger. 350 students travel to and from school on Delridge everyday. Next year, with the co-location of Arbor Heights, that number will double. How is it that the city doesn’t feel a responsibility to ensure 700 students can safely, walk, bus, bike, or ride to school everyday?
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Again, how is there not a law demanding traffic safety measures be in place BEFORE a school (new or reopened) opens its doors?
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dsaFri, 28 Feb 2014 04:36:06 +0000http://westseattleblog.com/?p=266264#comment-1251499I google"earthed" it. As I thought, if the above photo is correct, those steps go to the parking lot. So is the idea is to have students walk through the parking lot? That is not a safe management practice. There already is a sidewalk a few feet away.I google”earthed” it. As I thought, if the above photo is correct, those steps go to the parking lot. So is the idea is to have students walk through the parking lot? That is not a safe management practice. There already is a sidewalk a few feet away.
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dsaFri, 28 Feb 2014 03:38:17 +0000http://westseattleblog.com/?p=266264#comment-1251468The rfq states it's 20,000 dollars for design. That, as I read it does not include construction costs.The rfq states it’s 20,000 dollars for design. That, as I read it does not include construction costs.
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WSBFri, 28 Feb 2014 02:32:09 +0000http://westseattleblog.com/?p=266264#comment-1251444This isn't taking WSHS time/money - it's volunteers, PTSA, Dept. of Neighborhoods Matching Fund. I'm sorry I only had time to put up something brief but there's lots more information in the actual RFQ document linked in the story (and below) - please read. It's beautification too. And the doc has lots of info about community discussion plans - opportunities to help shape it. Hopefully students past, present, and future will participate too.
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http://westseattlehs.seattleschools.org/modules/groups/homepagefiles/cms/1708897/File/SchoolInvolvement/WSHSRFQStepsStevens02.19.14.pdfThis isn’t taking WSHS time/money – it’s volunteers, PTSA, Dept. of Neighborhoods Matching Fund. I’m sorry I only had time to put up something brief but there’s lots more information in the actual RFQ document linked in the story (and below) – please read. It’s beautification too. And the doc has lots of info about community discussion plans – opportunities to help shape it. Hopefully students past, present, and future will participate too.
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IanFri, 28 Feb 2014 02:11:48 +0000http://westseattleblog.com/?p=266264#comment-1251437But there isn't a safety issue with pedestrians here.... @stringcheese your comment would apply if there were incidents but there just aren't at this intersection. This is a waste of time and money for WSHSBut there isn’t a safety issue with pedestrians here…. @stringcheese your comment would apply if there were incidents but there just aren’t at this intersection. This is a waste of time and money for WSHS
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NWFri, 28 Feb 2014 02:00:36 +0000http://westseattleblog.com/?p=266264#comment-1251431There was years back a pretty established dirt trail along that entire hillside parallel to the parking lot for pedestrians and BMX bikes. The other issue if you have ever noticed is after an event at the school traffic leaving ,the driveway in the left of the photograph is unable to exit with the heavy flow of traffic on say a Friday night or any night. The exiting driveway feed almost directly into a stoplight controlled intersection.There was years back a pretty established dirt trail along that entire hillside parallel to the parking lot for pedestrians and BMX bikes. The other issue if you have ever noticed is after an event at the school traffic leaving ,the driveway in the left of the photograph is unable to exit with the heavy flow of traffic on say a Friday night or any night. The exiting driveway feed almost directly into a stoplight controlled intersection.
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StringCheeseFri, 28 Feb 2014 00:26:52 +0000http://westseattleblog.com/?p=266264#comment-1251377This is wonderful news. However, I continue to be dismayed by the City's lack of accountability when it comes to pedestrian safety around schools. How is it not required by law that the city put crosswalks and traffic calming measures around every school when it is opened? School attendance is mandatory by law. SPS keeps decreasing bus service to encourage more children to walk to school. However, whether the children can safely access a school is somehow at the whim of a grant committee? If a school is lucky enough to have a gifted grant writer to begin with.
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SDOT should be ashamed of itself. Pedestrian safety around schools should not have to rely on multi-year grant cycles. Period.This is wonderful news. However, I continue to be dismayed by the City’s lack of accountability when it comes to pedestrian safety around schools. How is it not required by law that the city put crosswalks and traffic calming measures around every school when it is opened? School attendance is mandatory by law. SPS keeps decreasing bus service to encourage more children to walk to school. However, whether the children can safely access a school is somehow at the whim of a grant committee? If a school is lucky enough to have a gifted grant writer to begin with.
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SDOT should be ashamed of itself. Pedestrian safety around schools should not have to rely on multi-year grant cycles. Period.
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onionFri, 28 Feb 2014 00:19:33 +0000http://westseattleblog.com/?p=266264#comment-1251374So how many incidents have there been? I live a few blocks west of this intersection and have never heard of any incidents between the California/Stevens intersection and the high school.So how many incidents have there been? I live a few blocks west of this intersection and have never heard of any incidents between the California/Stevens intersection and the high school.
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