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Are they any good at Japanese art tattoos? Anyone they could recommend and prices

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
could people stop asking about pricing. how hard is it to make a phone call.
plus the question has been asked/replied 1000 times in this thread already
most local shops are 140-180 an hour.

Edit: I'm also gonna do a short review of my experience at trigger happy with jay. Steer clear if you can!

I had several appointments booked to finish a 3 quarter sleeve. During the consultation, I told jay everything I was looking for (koi tattoo with specific colors, examples). Left the consultation happy. In our first appointment, jay completely "forgot" that I wanted a colour tattoo and ran the shader right through the koi's head. Because of this, I now have to change the whole concept of the tattoo and change accommodate a black koi fish into the art. (I put forgot in the quotations because I have a strong feeling jay never even wrote down anything during our consultation)

Giving him the benefit of the doubt, I decided to keep on going with our other planned appointments, hoping we can work with a black fish. 1 hour before our appointment, jay calls abruptly and cancels the appointment on me! I know things come up but you have to take accountability for your actions. Now my day has been wasted. Jay tells me to call back in a few days to re book. Yeah rights I thought... I ended up calling him anyways but he never picked up. Jay finally calls me on a Sunday afternoon a week later and we book another date.

Our third session was alright, but boy did I feel rushed. The lines on my tattoo are all crooked and out of the outline and line thickness is all inconsistent. Im really upset at this point. Note: I haven't displayed my disappointment yet hoping that we can all still fix this with shading and what not.

4th appointment: again, 1 hour before the appointment starts jay cancels on me. Me being in public was the only thing that had me biting my tongue and not cursing at jay. I told him I wanted my deposit back and that I would take my business elsewhere. The tattoo is about 20 hours from being done.

Fast forward a month later (I haven't went back to get my deposit yet), he calls me and asks if I want to book an appointment. I'm like wtf is this shit?

Anyhow I just want to share my experience with the RS community of my experiences with jay. I have gotten art from other artists in van and this is by far my worst experience. Jay is unorganized and does not seem like he has the passion for his work. Everything is rushed and mechanical.

Edit: I'm also gonna do a short review of my experience at trigger happy with jay. Steer clear if you can!

I had several appointments booked to finish a 3 quarter sleeve. During the consultation, I told jay everything I was looking for (koi tattoo with specific colors, examples). Left the consultation happy. In our first appointment, jay completely "forgot" that I wanted a colour tattoo and ran the shader right through the koi's head. Because of this, I now have to change the whole concept of the tattoo and change accommodate a black koi fish into the art. (I put forgot in the quotations because I have a strong feeling jay never even wrote down anything during our consultation)

Giving him the benefit of the doubt, I decided to keep on going with our other planned appointments, hoping we can work with a black fish. 1 hour before our appointment, jay calls abruptly and cancels the appointment on me! I know things come up but you have to take accountability for your actions. Now my day has been wasted. Jay tells me to call back in a few days to re book. Yeah rights I thought... I ended up calling him anyways but he never picked up. Jay finally calls me on a Sunday afternoon a week later and we book another date.

Our third session was alright, but boy did I feel rushed. The lines on my tattoo are all crooked and out of the outline and line thickness is all inconsistent. Im really upset at this point. Note: I haven't displayed my disappointment yet hoping that we can all still fix this with shading and what not.

4th appointment: again, 1 hour before the appointment starts jay cancels on me. Me being in public was the only thing that had me biting my tongue and not cursing at jay. I told him I wanted my deposit back and that I would take my business elsewhere. The tattoo is about 20 hours from being done.

Fast forward a month later (I haven't went back to get my deposit yet), he calls me and asks if I want to book an appointment. I'm like wtf is this shit?

Anyhow I just want to share my experience with the RS community of my experiences with jay. I have gotten art from other artists in van and this is by far my worst experience. Jay is unorganized and does not seem like he has the passion for his work. Everything is rushed and mechanical.

End rant

shitty that you got a bad experience with jay. i guess the increase of business in his shop is getting to him. and with jay there really is no "consultation" with him, he pretty much just free-hands the work on the first appointment and asks if that is what you had in mind. it's a shame that his quality in work has gone downhill... trigger happy was beginning to make a name for itself.

i suggest for you to let him finish however many koi's you had in mind for your sleeve and then let jesse at blackwater finish the rest of the work, since their styles are pretty similar. dunno if jesse would touch his work though...

shitty that you got a bad experience with jay. i guess the increase of business in his shop is getting to him. and with jay there really is no "consultation" with him, he pretty much just free-hands the work on the first appointment and asks if that is what you had in mind. it's a shame that his quality in work has gone downhill... trigger happy was beginning to make a name for itself.

i suggest for you to let him finish however many koi's you had in mind for your sleeve and then let jesse at blackwater finish the rest of the work, since their styles are pretty similar. dunno if jesse would touch his work though...

Yeah, I did research on jay and found out he used to be Jesse apprenticeship which was exactly why I booked with jay to start with; all my other work has been done with Jesse and thought the styles would be consistent enough. I didn't book with Jesse again because his wait list was so long. Guess this is the price you pay for being impatient... I have some other work with Jesse next month to finish some other pieces so I might swing it by him and see if he's open to it, if I don't find anyone else by then. I have a feeling Jesse would do it but knowing Jesse at the same time, it's going to come with a very long and hefty rant lol!

I was at sinister skin on saturday for 5 hours and they had some guy come in that was tattoo'd at the dutchman and wanted his tattoo fixed but they could only suggest getting it lasered to lighten the tattoo and then come back and they would work something out.
Ive been to the dutchman twice and wasn't really happy now that i think about it, i get way better work and prices at sinister skin only problem is Dave books 3 months + in advance

it doesn't look to bad but its not what you wanted. I would rage if that had happened to me, shit i was kinda pissed that i got cancled on with my tattoo guy but then he got me in 3 days later after hours 6-11 on a friday night so dude really made up for it.

General question. I see alot of guys in van who rock those sleeves and they all look pretty sketch. Is it safe to assume that those with tats do criminal activity? Im not talkin bout just any tat but the ones u see on asian guys... Dragons kois demons and the sort