2017 (The 2018 Induction Ceremony)

These artists released their first recording in 1992, which makes them eligible for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in 2017
(the induction ceremony will be held the year following the voting process, in 2018). All currently eligible artists are listed here. Artists aleady inducted in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame can be found here.

Sublime and Strung Out. Too bad theres no way in hell those early Fat Wreck bands like NOFX, Strung Out and Lagwagon even though they were very important to kids like me back then and are the reason the Warped Tour has been so successful all these years.

I think the only no-brainers in this group are Radiohead and Beck. Tool & Rage Against the Machine I see getting some major support as well. Love the Verve but I don't see much support for them either. Same with Cracker. Camper van Beethoven was more influential and I doubt they will ever be seriously considered. STP? The Hall will recognize Nirvana, Pearl Jam and probably Soundgarden. I don't see any way STP gets recognized.

first of all I appreciate the fact that you apparently noticed my notes about previous years.

As regards 2017/2018, firstly, I do imagine msot of the important artists of the rap revolution will already be inducted.

I would say that Radiohead are certainties to get in on the first ballot, and Rage Against the Machine, Tool, TLC and the Verve have some chance.

It's extremely hard to predict what the status of the backlog will be this far in to the future. The way they are still nominating doo-wop groups today suggests artists like the MC5, New York Dolls and Captain Beefheart could still be getting nominations if they're not inducted between 2009/2010 and 2011/2012.

Maybe artists like Hüsker Dü that predated grunge will get considered for the first time, but this I cannot say wiht confidence. One could also see artists like Sonic Youth under more consideration, but, again, I feel I am going as far as I can looking at possible 2017/2018 inductees.

Seriously, I don't even know where to begin with you Radiohead dis-ing! If you had been to a Radiohead show (and in looking at your post, there's about as much a chance of that as me at a Shania Twain show), you would see that it's difficult to fill 14,000+ seat arena's full of "indie geek snobs"

I do understand how someone doesn't "get" Radiohead...No wait, I don't!!! Seriously - Sit down and listen to "OK Computer" (and every album since) to realize what this band really is.

For some reason, Radiohead have become the band that people bash to sound like they are "music elite" - I would just say to stop listening to the negative crap you have heard about Radiohead and just listen to them!

Unfortunately, I HAVE seen Radiohead live. I got dragged to an REM show years ago where they opened. The first word that comes to mind is haughty. I have several more words; none of them complementary. The irony here is that I thought Creep was an awesome song – it may be trendy but I still like it to this day (except for the bridge, where the vocals just become insufferably whiny). I HAVE listened. The drummer in my band is a fan, so I get them forced on me, like it or not.

Ultimately, though, whether I like them or not is every bit as irrelevant as whether you like them or not. Neither of us are voters. And that goes back to my original point. History has shown that the voters, much to your dismay and my relief, aren’t going to induct a band like Radiohead any time soon. If they won’t induct an act like Rush or Yes, why would Radiohead stand a chance?

Well, here we are in 2017 - The Cleveland Browns have finally won a super bowl, gasoline is about 6.50 a gallon, and the rock & roll hall is finally inducting the folks you expected. It all started around 2011 when the voting board started to slightly change. Rush, Purple, Genesis, all started to get in around that time. The Stooges also made it in. Oh, the sure locks also got in - GNR on the first ballot, Nirvana on the first ballot. They're hashing out who should be in for 2017. You see, Rage Against the Machine has threatened to boycott the ceremony unless everyone surrenders their expensive dinners to the needy, but a select few are suggesting that if Thom Yorke is allowed to have extra, Radiohead might start singing happy songs. The big question here - the needy or the artistic.

Radiohead is a no brainer. They're one of the most popular bands around right now, not to mention how well received OK Computer, in Rainbows, and Kid A were (as well as most of their other albums).

Beck is one of the most successful and eclectic solo acts around. Not to mention he's had quite a few hit songs like "Loser," "Where It's At," and "E-Pro."

Tool also has a really high chance. Like Radiohead and Beck, they're very popular (not as popular, though). They're also one of the most technically talented bands on the list (Danny Carey is one of modern rock's best drummers, Maynard James Keenan is considered to be a great vocalist, I love the bass and guitar work as well).

I can see Rage, Buckethead, and Dr. Dre getting it, too.

I'd like to see Cracker and Sugar get it, but they're really side projects of more deserving bands.

I do not think Beck is a lock; at least he shouldn't be. RATM is nowhere near a lock; especially in their first year of eligibility. If it took forever for Sabbath to be inducted and Deep Purple is still not in, then I don't see how RATM needs to be put in right away. I am good with Radiohead, but again, I don't know that they will go in their first year.

I do not think Beck is a lock; at least he shouldn't be. RATM is nowhere near a lock; especially in their first year of eligibility. If it took forever for Sabbath to be inducted and Deep Purple is still not in, then I don't see how RATM needs to be put in right away. I am good with Radiohead, but again, I don't know that they will go in their first year.

Posted by Dameon on Monday, 05.18.09 @ 12:21pm
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I know where you're coming from w/this, and I'm not sure myself who would count as a guaranteed pick either. I do happen to think all three will go in. Whether they go in on the first ballot is something else. They just might if the committee has changed in the intervening yrs. between now & 2017. It is an outside possibility.

The inductees:
Radiohead
Beck
Rage Against the Machine
Dr. Dre
No Doubt

A few artists here are worthy but won't get in on this ballot: Stone Temple Pilots (too much critical bashing when they first came out; No Doubt will probably get the nod over them) and TLC come to mind. Similarly, Sublime has a devent shot of getting in, but won't make it this time. Tool is another band which will probably get some love, but not enough for this year (good thing too, since I hate Tool). I personally admire The Verve, but they didn't have enough success stateside ("Bittersweet Symphony" was their only major US hit) to get in.

A few artists here are worthy but won't get in on this ballot: Stone Temple Pilots (too much critical bashing when they first came out; No Doubt will probably get the nod over them) and TLC come to mind.

Posted by AreUExperienced on Monday, 07.13.09 @ 19:37pm
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You really think the critical bashing will come back to haunt them?

I may be one of the few people who think STP does have a shot. They may have initially sounded like a Pearl Jam or Alice knock off band, but down the line they showed they had some originality. The "Tiny Music" album in 96 had some great jazzy cuts mixed in, and some psychedelic styled stuff as well. I'd like to believe they have a shot.

Being a fan of Stone Temple Pilots myself, I agree that they did show some originality down the road and I think that they have a legitimate chance of being inducted some day. However, a lackluster critical reputation, even if it was only early on, can ruin candidacies; look at Alice Cooper, Cheap Trick, and Deep Purple, for example. Therefore, I don't think STP have a shot on this ballot. They will later, but not this time.

Nipplering calling Radiohead a one hit wonder is about as stupid as calling Led Zeppelin, Cream, or Beck one hit wonders. Pretty much ruins any credibility as far as opinions on Radioheads Hall chances goes. Or credibility on anything else music-wise for that matter. Wanna put some money on Radiohead NOT making it in, Nipplering? That's a stone cold, lead pipe lock.

Radiohead are an absolute lock, though I'm not the biggest fan. I'm not sure whether RATM should get in but they probably will. Likewise, I like STP but I don't think they're important enough for induction (they may get in eventually if they keep going but not first-ballot, as I don't think there's been enough of a turn-around from the critical disdain they got originally.) The Verve? Maybe, but no chance, as they're a one-hit wonder in the US. Suede should absolutely be inducted, but they didn't really accomplish anything in the US and are too British for this Nominating Commitee (not to mention they haven't even nominated any British Indie yet), so no real chance unless there's a slight regime change. Likewise, I'm pulling for Tool, but they're very prog and metal-like, two styles which the Hall doesn't like to acknowledge. Has Dr. Dre done enough on his own to be inducted?

I didn't include the Red Hot Chili Peppers because they became eligible last year, but they're a lock.

Not quite locks, but will probably get in eventually:

-Soundgarden
-Oasis
-Dave Matthews Band (I didn't place them as a lock because I'm not sure if there's enough of a critical consensus.)
-Alice in Chains
-Rage Against the Machine (Right now I think they should get in)
-Weezer

Should get in, but won't:

-Megadeth
-Sepultura
-The Stone Roses
-Happy Mondays
-Faith No More
-My Bloody Valentine
-Pixies (how are they supposed to get a fair shot if The Replacements, Husker Du and Sonic Youth can't get in?)
-Melvins
-Massive Attack
-Blur
-Suede
-Tool
-Korn (yes, I know I'm crazy, thinking they should be in; I'll explain if you like)

I wouldn't have too much of a problem with Primus getting in but they won't. Kid Rock might get in eventually, but I reserve comment on whether he should. It wouldn't be the end of the world to me if Stone Temple Pilots get in, and they might have a chance further down the line.

Might get in but shouldn't:

-Usher
-Shania Twain
-Sheryl Crow
-George Michael (I do like his first three albums though)
-Mariah Carey
-The Black Crowes (I like some of their stuff by the way)
-Goo Goo Dolls (see The Black Crowes)

Sam - While I don't care for the turn that Green Day has taken in this last decade (even though I don't think American Idiot was that bad, just way overplayed), there stuff from the 90's is great. Dookie is one of the best albums of the 1990's and one of the best punk albums of all time. Also as of now they probably are the last great punk band. Your other predictions look good except I would put Public Enemy into the lock category. I really think it is going to be interesting to see what happens in the future. I think the Pixies get in even with Sonic Youth, The Replacements & Husker D. I think you are slowly going to see a change in the make up of the nominating committee to younger critics that are going to be more in supportive of college/alt/indie rock. You all ready see this will Rolling Stone promoting more of this music. I think Metal, heavy music and Prog will always have it tough, unfortunately.

I don't hate Green Day by the way, I actually like some of their stuff, I just think they're overplayed to oblivion. Also, some of their fans annoy me, but certainly not you :) I'm not much of a fan, but I don't have a problem with their induction.

Joining GFW on this, first off I'll filter out this who have no shot whatsoever and only analyze those who have a limited shot to a certainty:

Ace of Base: Well they inducted ABBA, but I very much doubt they'll induct A of B
Annie Lennox: Nope, but the Eurythmics have a shot
Arrested Development: Yeah right
Beck: Not first ballot, but he'll get in
Blind Melon: Can't see it happening
The Bottle Rockets: Uncle Tupelo has a better shot and they have almost no shot
Buckethead: I don't think so, but first ballot in a Guitarist Hall of Fame
Common: In rap circles he would get in, but he's too much of a footnote for the Hall of Fame
Cracker: No chance, Camper Van Beethoven has a much better shot
Dr. Dre: He's likely getting in, but as a Performer or Non-Performer for his production work?
Hootie and the Blowfish: Yeah right
House of Pain: No, too much of a footnote
Insane Clown Posse: No, since they are considered a joke by everybody except their fans
Jamiroquai: Not noteworthy enough, worth checking out though
Lambchop: Decent band but no shot.
Mary J. Blige: Maybe. But not first or second ballot
Moxy Fruvous: Too obscure Canadian for the Hall
No Doubt: Maybe, but since the Specials or Madness haven't even been nominated yet, it might be a long shot. Then again, maybe the Hall thinks the Specials and Madness are too British and would go with No Doubt. It would be a terrible decision, but it could happen
R. Kelly: Doubt it.
Radiohead: First ballot, 99% guaranteed
RATM: Very likely, but not on the first or second nomination, shame their more influential forebears won't get recognized
Stone Temple Pilots: Could see it happening, but not after several nominations
Sublime: Maybe
Suede: Probably too British for the Hall, unfortunately
The Supersuckers: Long shot
Tim McGraw: Willie Nelson or Waylon Jennings aren't in and we're discussing Tim McGraw? Come on, let's be realistic here
TLC: Maybe after several nominations and on a weak year
Tool: No, they represent two styles the Hall doesn't like to acknowledge much
The Verve: Might have a good shot but might also be too British and are essentially seen as a one-hit wonder in the States
The Verve Pipe: No chance
The Wallflowers: The Hall loves Bob Dylan. Will they fall in love with his son? We'll see

Radiohead, RATM and Beck are the no-brainers; they'll probably get in first ballot.

The questionable ones are:
Dr. Dre- Not so much in general, but as a Performer or Non-Performer.
Mary J. Blige - Some definite importance with the development of hip hop soul, but seems to have fallen through the cracks nowadays.
No Doubt - This depends on them ever coming out of their neverending hiatus and releasing something new. Is being the most notable band of the ska revival enough?
R. Kelly - Has undergone somewhat of a critical rehabilitation, if he stays out of trouble I see his stock rising greatly.
Sublime - Are 3 albums enough?
Stone Temple Pilots - Certainly a memorable and influential band, but they need a helluva critical turnaround before they get a shot.
TLC - Similar to Sublime actually, except those three albums are way better and more important.

What can we do to get Def Leppard on the list? It is a disgrace that some of these artists have been nominated and not Def Leppard. What advice, guidance, or assistance can be given to a very large group of us who want to see this changed???

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