(a page off of Dave Moss's website, has pictures and explanations of different wear patterns.

i know it said to post questions only, but personally i didn't really understand it until i saw it. so i thought this would help out your thread, and just may answer A LOT of questions from people already. again, please don't be upset that it's not a question, and i have no means of clutter, just trying to help out...

(a page off of Dave Moss's website, has pictures and explanations of different wear patterns.

i know it said to post questions only, but personally i didn't really understand it until i saw it. so i thought this would help out your thread, and just may answer A LOT of questions from people already. again, please don't be upset that it's not a question, and i have no means of clutter, just trying to help out...

All of that has been posted before on this website, quite a few times, but people still just post up pics and ask, which is the purpose of this thread.

let me be the first to post pics of a tyre that has rear suspension problems.

this is a Michelin Pilot Power 2CT rear tyre on a GSXR1000K7 & you can clearly see the scallop (raised lip) on the trailing edge of the tyre, whether if the scallop is on the leading or trailing edge it only means that you have rebound damping problems with your rear shock.

too much rebound damping (too hard) scallops the trailing edge & too little rebound damping (too soft) scallops the front edge. the pic is taken on the right hand side of the tyre so the rotation fprward is clockwise.

i'll take other pics of tyres with compression & rebound damping problems, that way you'll know what it looks like & what to do to correct it but most importantly you MUST set you rider sag first before any adjustments to the damping adjusters are to be made.

Too much rebound and in that pic it looks like in the middle of the tread there is shaved edge on the trailing edge. Is that due to compression or is that another issue b/c it is coupled with a suspension issue on the same edge?

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Rear Tire
Bridgestone BT002-RS
Cold Temp 30PSI
Slight liping of the leading edge, becoming more pronounced throughout the day suggesting more rebound (faster) is needed. Slight geometry tear as well becoming more and more pronounced throughout the day, and even more so afterwards, suggesting rear spring is not adequate for rider weight.

Too much rebound and in that pic it looks like in the middle of the tread there is shaved edge on the trailing edge. Is that due to compression or is that another issue b/c it is coupled with a suspension issue on the same edge?

correct, the forks have too much rebound damping (too hard) & the fork springs are too stiff, the forks barely compress when i bounce them so we're having both problems acting at the same time screwing up the tire.

definitely a hot tear i see (fingernail marks) & i could tell from the wear pattern you get on the gas very hard when you're on the fat part of the tire you're either lacking in compression damping or the spring is a bit soft for your weight/riding style (scalloped leading edge).

on the outer edge of the tire i a scallop on the trailing edge indicating you have too much rebound damping, i suggest turning the rebound damping softer or increase your spring preload up a notch.

So I should get on the gas a little earlier? Might have to change my lines for that a bit. But that might not be a bad thing. Thing is, my throttle seems really progressive, but I guess maybe it isnt.

well, you see that line right in the middle of your transition patch? that's you picking up the throttle right after apex as you begin to pick up the bike. it's not a harsh line... but it's either that or you're trail braking and lulling the neutral throttle.

So I should get on the gas a little earlier? Might have to change my lines for that a bit. But that might not be a bad thing. Thing is, my throttle seems really progressive, but I guess maybe it isnt.

Try to be neutral throttle as you get to the apex and right after start rolling it on. Watch this youtube video and see how smoothly Pridmore rolls on the gas after the apex. These videos coupled with some winter reading was a major boost for my speed and comfort on the track.

This is exactly the thread i was hoping for. Trying to learn what all the terms mean, (hot and cold tear, etc..) and what they look like. and how to correct it. Perfect! Keep it up guys. VERY valuable info here.

Can someone help me out.
Went to fontana last weekend. Was about 95 degree air temp.
Running Pilot Powers, no tct. Ran 38 front and 37 rear, per michelin guys at the track.
Looks like the rear tires trailing lip is higher than the front. (too much compression?) No noticable raise in the fronts.
Going to fontana again 8-1. Thinking of getting diablo corsas or 2ct's. Any suggestions.?

Can someone help me out.
Went to fontana last weekend. Was about 95 degree air temp.
Running Pilot Powers, no tct. Ran 38 front and 37 rear, per michelin guys at the track.
Looks like the rear tires trailing lip is higher than the front. (too much compression?) No noticable raise in the fronts.
Going to fontana again 8-1. Thinking of getting diablo corsas or 2ct's. Any suggestions.?

on the rear you need less rebound damping (go softer) & more compression damping (go harder).

on the front i can see a bit of a lip forming at the leading edge so you need a bit more rebound damping (go harder).

go with the tires you're already familiar with, regular PP & PP2CT aren't much different except for the softer compound on the sides.

Can someone help me out.
Went to fontana last weekend. Was about 95 degree air temp.
Running Pilot Powers, no tct. Ran 38 front and 37 rear, per michelin guys at the track.
Looks like the rear tires trailing lip is higher than the front. (too much compression?) No noticable raise in the fronts.
Going to fontana again 8-1. Thinking of getting diablo corsas or 2ct's. Any suggestions.?

wow, the Michelin guys told you that? are you sure? Hot or cold?

you might want to confirm those pressures though, i'm seeing minor cold tearing, which is why i ask about the high pressures...

I was suprised about the tire pressure also.
Have been to 3 track days and always asked the michelin guy what pressure to run. They have always told me a pressure over 35 psi cold.
I know it sounded high to me as well.

Not sure on the sag. I had it setup 2 years ago at the track. Maybe I should check it again.