In bowl mix margarine, sugar, vanilla, and chocolate or cocoa. In pan, mix milk and flour mixture and cook on low until thick. Cool in refrigerator. When flour mixture is cool, mix with chocolate mixture and beat until smooth.

Cook together all but oleo and cream. Cook over hot water. Stir frequently. When thick, add oleo. Cool. Whip cream until stiff. Fold cooled orange filling into cream. Spread on carrot cake. Better if made day before. Must be refrigerated. Can be frozen.

Shake in shaker milk and flour until smooth. Cook mixture over medium heat, stirring constantly until smooth and creamy. Let cool. Beat sugar, shortening and extracts until creamy. Add to cooled mixture. Beat on high until sugar has dissolved and mixture is smooth and creamy.

Mock Whipped Cream Frosting with Variations

5 tbsp. flour1 c. milk

Put above ingredients in a blender until completely mixed or mix with a whisk, but it must be completely blended. Put into a small pot and cook over low heat until the consistency of pudding. COVER AND COOL COMPLETELY. Set aside, then:

Cream together 1/2 cup of shortening and 1/2 cup of butter or margarine until light and fluffy. To that add 1 cup granulated sugar a little at a time and beat until the sugar is dissolved. THIS MAY TAKE AS LONG AS TEN MINUTES - BE PATIENT. When dissolved or near to being dissolved, add the cooled flour mixture and beat until fluffy, then add vanilla.

NOTE: Other flavors may be substituted for the vanilla. Also, liquid chocolate or cocoa may be added. If you like color it takes food coloring beautifully.

Okay so this might seem like a stupid question but what is bettercream?

At first when i read a few posts with the word BETTERCREAM I just thought it was a typo on their part but then i noticed alot of people were calling it that, so not everyone is a bad speller haha thats when I figured it out duurrrrr

HipnotiqGlamour, Rich's Bettercreme is a ready made type of frosting/filling. I'm sure if you do a search in the forums you will find more info I do know that you can purchase it in 2 forms: liquid and whipped.

it tasted really good. i like that it's light and fluffy. not too sweet and very lemony. i love lemon! that's a white chocolate sour cream cupcake with blueberry filling. so the cupcake was quite dense and the frosting was light. complimented it very well.

I made thechocolate version! I actually just followed the lemon recipe and added a couple tablespoons of dutch cocoa powder. it turned out really good. I made cake balls and used this as the binder and OMG i hate to say it but... I ate all of the cake balls by myself. this is SO NOT good for my diet.