In addition to ending the shutdown and increasing the debt limit, under the proposal Congress and the White House would explore ways to ease across-the-board federal budget cuts that began taking effect a year ago, and replace at least part of them with benefit-program curbs that have been included in recent presidential budgets. Officials who described the approach did so on condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to discuss private conversations.

With the weekend approaching, and the deadline for raising the debt limit five days away, Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell said it was time to "put this hysterical talk of default behind us and instead start talking about finding solutions to the problems."

McConnell and Senate Republicans met with Obama at the White House, a session that lasted about 90 minutes. Returning to the Capitol, GOP lawmakers huddled with McConnell, who told reporters, "Now we're back here to actually work on trying to get a solution on a bipartisan basis."

I suspect the GOP-elite is gonna cave piece by piece and hope that doing it gradually won’t look as blatant. They have already dropped Obamacare, by the end of this weekend they will have given into virtually all of the Senate and WH demands.

“I suspect the GOP-elite is gonna cave piece by piece and hope that doing it gradually wont look as blatant. They have already dropped Obamacare, by the end of this weekend they will have given into virtually all of the Senate and WH demands.”

Bingo.

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posted on 10/11/2013 12:29:59 PM PDT
by RKBA Democrat
(Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)

If they do, the Republicans are going to get slaughtered next year. People are paying attention, and are fed up. They will not show up just to vote for an “R”, and without conservative voters, the Republican party is nothing more than a bunch of empty suits.

... under the proposal Congress and the White House would explore ways to ease across-the-board federal budget cuts that began taking effect a year ago, and replace at least part of them with benefit-program curbs that have been included in recent presidential budgets.

With the weekend approaching, and the deadline for raising the debt limit five days away, Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell said it was time to "put this hysterical talk of default behind us and instead start talking about finding solutions to the problems."

I trust Matt Bevin is now rapidly rubbing his hands together.

Hey Mitch (not the Atlas character :), I don't recall any "hysterical" talk. Just plain dollars and sense.

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posted on 10/11/2013 12:37:09 PM PDT
by upchuck
(nobamacare must be stopped before it can live down to our expectations.)

We r going to look like complete fools if we get nothing out of the deal! What r we supposed to say to those on the other side? They have come this far, why fold now? Who cares what the press says? Maybe other Freepers see something I don’t?

Much of the public cares what they press says. And yes, that does mean they are obscenely uninformed and gullible, but wishing for that to change is tantamount to wishing for a Victoria’s Secret model to walk into your house tonight and make a marriage proposal.

There has to be better articulation from conservatives from the grassroots level all the way up to the federal level. Conservative/libertarian intellectuals, as examples PJ O Rourke and Thomas Sowell have pointed out ad naseum. And the fight for more legit leaders representing us in the House and Senate next year must intensify REGARDLESS of how this plays out.

I don’t know. If I were Cruz I’d carry a 10-foot pole with me to touch McQueeg after all the things that old piece of crap has been saying about me. If it were me. I’m not nearly as good a man as Cruz.

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posted on 10/11/2013 12:50:40 PM PDT
by Cyber Liberty
(It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)

Never in history have their been worse negotiators. Never. They constantly negotiate against themselves and the other side never gives an inch. If they were in business, they would have crushed and shut the doors two years ago.

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posted on 10/11/2013 12:54:32 PM PDT
by ilgipper
(Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)

Not that I know of. By cave, do you mean like literally caved in and accepted wholesale any and all demands Obama and the Senate make? And let them decide all the terms and conditions? Do you mean that kind of full scale caving?

If Republicans were to lose the House it would be a catastrophe and the fault of the voters. Anyone except a RINO/Libertarian is going to vote Republican to stand against Obama/Reid/Pelosi. Anyone who does not vote Republican is responsible for giving the nationalist socialist more power.

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posted on 10/11/2013 1:06:42 PM PDT
by af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)

Maybe what could happen is voting in enough Republicans to get control of the House and Senate while making sure that those most responsible for failing to negotiate properly are primaried and replaced with Tea Party candidates. The idea would be to have the hardcore socialists in the minority in both sections of Congress while letting the majority know they will be scrutinized carefully every step of the way. Just something I am thinking of. Regardless, the middle ground as disappeared a ton in the past couple weeks so the conservative/libertarian side MUST act accordingly.

If Republicans were to lose the House it would be a catastrophe and the fault of the voters. Anyone except a RINO/Libertarian is going to vote Republican to stand against Obama/Reid/Pelosi. Anyone who does not vote Republican is responsible for giving the nationalist socialist more power.

Except ... they don't stand against Obama/Reid/Pelosi. They are part of Obama/Reid/Pelosi. I will turn this around. Anyone voting blindly for Republicans who do not act like an opposition party are "responsible for giving the nationalist socialist more power." The fault will be directed at voters who put these charlatans in power. If "we" lose the house, then so be it. Conservatives are not part of "we", at least not in the McCain wing of the party. By all means, conservative and committed Republicans have my support. But the others can take a hike.

You’re right. The conservative base of the GOP is going to abandon it. The Republicans ARE empty suits because they can’t articulate ONE SINGLE position they have. Only the strongest Republican bastions will hold out against this tsunami. We’re looking at the dems gaining 60 seats. Or more.

Why are you presuming Obama will be ok with not getting everything he wants? When has Obama ever been ok with not having every single one of his demands satisfied? Ditto for Reid and Pelosi. I sense that they are gonna demand all or nothing and the House GOP will by Oct 17 have given them all.

I still think he and the Senate are gonna opt to try and force the worse kind of default and try to cause as much hyper inflation and us dollar collapse as possible, make sure the MSM convinces the public that the House GOP forced him to make all these defaults and then keep the gridlock even after that. Considering how gullible much of public opinion is, these sneaky attacks could work to get Obama to have all his demands met and lead to the GOP losing their majority entirely. Why wouldn’t Obama go for that instead of doing anything to satisfy the GOP? What would be his reasons for not trying to force the worse kind of default and then looking to make sure the American public thinks the House GOP gets all the blame?

You r probably right. I start to get needlessly worried...I break my own rule and start believing the press. I just cannot believe the Republicans would walk away with nothing. I have a family member and I dread the call, “so, they didn’t shut down Obamacare so what was the shutdown all about”?

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