The Holy Spirit in current lesson 2017 - Adventist Online2020-06-07T07:08:43Zhttp://www.adventistonline.com/forum/topics/the-holyvspirit-in-current-lesson-2017?xg_source=activity&amp%3Bamp%3Bid=1451550%3ATopic%3A5015372&amp%3Bamp%3Bpage=5&amp%3Bfeed=yes&amp%3Bxn_auth=no&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThe book is available in the…tag:www.adventistonline.com,2019-07-13:1451550:Comment:51217642019-07-13T14:59:20.627ZW. Spencehttp://www.adventistonline.com/profile/WSpence
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The book is available in the "File" section on Facebook Group "Adventist Online FB". The pioneers believed in a ma…tag:www.adventistonline.com,2019-07-13:1451550:Comment:51216682019-07-13T14:57:38.917ZW. Spencehttp://www.adventistonline.com/profile/WSpence
The pioneers believed in a material (physical) universe.<br />
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More is known on the topic today.<br />
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The Holy Spirit is a physical Being.<br />
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In everywhere only, through the miriad of angels that do report.<br />
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See the book: Materialism Our Forgotten Foundation.<br />
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Ask me.
The pioneers believed in a material (physical) universe.<br />
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More is known on the topic today.<br />
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The Holy Spirit is a physical Being.<br />
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In everywhere only, through the miriad of angels that do report.<br />
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See the book: Materialism Our Forgotten Foundation.<br />
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Ask me. A well informed response. Tha…tag:www.adventistonline.com,2019-06-27:1451550:Comment:51207532019-06-27T01:42:44.208ZJason M.http://www.adventistonline.com/profile/JasonMissole
<p>A well informed response. Thanks for the information</p>
<p>A well informed response. Thanks for the information</p> James, you use the word "Cat…tag:www.adventistonline.com,2019-04-08:1451550:Comment:51114452019-04-08T13:50:08.583ZJohnBhttp://www.adventistonline.com/profile/JohnB
<p> James, you use the word "Catholic" as if you are referring to the Roman Catholic Church. That being the case there are several major points that contest your account. I have enumerated some of them as follows:</p>
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<p> James, you use the word "Catholic" as if you are referring to the Roman Catholic Church. That being the case there are several major points that contest your account. I have enumerated some of them as follows:</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: &amp;quot; font-size: 9.75pt; color: black;">1. The Council of Nicaea was not a Roman Catholic council - unless you are a follower of the Roman Catholic Church's version of history. So, any good Roman Catholic will argue that Nicaea was a RC council because they accept the primacy of the Bishop of Rome from the apostle Peter onward and believe in the unbroken succession of the Papacy. However, t<span style="background: white;">he idea of Papal supremacy at that time is specifically denied by the Canons of that council.</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: &amp;quot; font-size: 9.75pt; color: black;">Conversely the SDA Church has never taught or believed this. Like many of the Protestant Reformers the SDA Church views the RCC as the woman of Revelation 17 and therefore dates her supremacy according to the time prophesied in Dan.7 &amp; Rev.12.</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: &amp;quot; font-size: 9.75pt; color: black;">2. The Council of Nicaea was called by the Roman Emperor Constantine, it was not called by the Bishop of Rome. Western Bishops were in a minority at the council, about 3 at most, and the Bishop of Rome did not attend. In reality this was an Eastern Church council as there were at least 100 Eastern Bishops in attendance for every 1 Western Church Bishop. The idea that it was a Roman Catholic Council is put forward by agents and sympathisers of Rome's claim to supremacy.</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: &amp;quot; font-size: 9.75pt; color: black;">3. The idea of three Persons of the Godhead was not invented at the Council of Nicaea. The purpose of the Council was not to invent doctrine but to confirm the beliefs held by the church in the face of heretical teachings that were threatening to split the church. Eusebius Pamphilius, who attended the Council, wrote that it affirmed what he and the Church had always believed, that is: three persons of the Godhead. It wasn't the concept of three Persons of the Godhead that was the issue, it was the understanding of the substance of the Father and the Son that raised problems. It was an attempt to go beyond what the Bible reveals and to define the substance of God: both sides were attempting to define the undefinable.</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: &amp;quot; font-size: 9.75pt; color: black;">4. The Canons of the Council of Nicaea contain no reference to Christ being a "second God", neither does the Nicene Creed.</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: &amp;quot; font-size: 9.75pt; color: black;">5. That you claim that the Emperor forced a belief at the point of a sword shows a contradiction in your own reasoning. On the one side claiming that this was "Catholic church dogma" and on the other side claiming it was the Emperor that forced this doctrine.</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: &amp;quot; font-size: 9.75pt; color: black;">6. What was attempted by the Emperor was to force the Council to come to a decision in regard to the <span style="font-weight: bold;">substance</span> of God and Christ. However, the threats were not enforced and he told them to come to a decision- he did not tell them *what* to decide. In fact, Constantine was not very happy with the conclusion they came to regarding Arius' heresy as it did not deal with the reason the council was called.</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: &amp;quot; font-size: 9.75pt; color: black;">7. The council was called to counter the errors of Gnosticism, or the idea that there are "secret teachings" that can be known through experiential means rather than through the Bible. At the same time they were to counter the concept of modalism and the teaching of the Ebionites that led to Mary being co-opted into the trinity.</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: &amp;quot; font-size: 9.75pt; color: black;">It would seem that your disagreement with the beliefs of the early Church are based on your personal belief that Jesus is not God.</p> James all the arguments you…tag:www.adventistonline.com,2019-04-04:1451550:Comment:51107282019-04-04T05:54:39.492ZElijahhttp://www.adventistonline.com/profile/IanPoulsen
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<p>James all the arguments you have put fore are not based on sound bible study, it's not lead by the Spirit as it is all based on human assumptions. Remember the chip you say would be the mark of the Beast. When you come with foolish assumptions like that you do not draw a lot of credibilities here. As long you do this I have no need to respond to foolish humanistic drivel. </p>
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<p>James all the arguments you have put fore are not based on sound bible study, it's not lead by the Spirit as it is all based on human assumptions. Remember the chip you say would be the mark of the Beast. When you come with foolish assumptions like that you do not draw a lot of credibilities here. As long you do this I have no need to respond to foolish humanistic drivel. </p>
<p></p> Elijah has not addressed my s…tag:www.adventistonline.com,2019-04-04:1451550:Comment:51110282019-04-04T04:14:22.782ZJames Frenchhttp://www.adventistonline.com/profile/JamesFrench
<p>Elijah has not addressed my statements with rational pertinent arguments, but rather makes vicious ad hominem attacks. There is no credibility to his behavior which does not reflect Christ. He has not addressed the Catholic historic evolution of the Trinity Doctrine. ”Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.” William Paley, 18th century British Theologian.</p>
<p>Elijah has not addressed my statements with rational pertinent arguments, but rather makes vicious ad hominem attacks. There is no credibility to his behavior which does not reflect Christ. He has not addressed the Catholic historic evolution of the Trinity Doctrine. ”Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.” William Paley, 18th century British Theologian.</p> The only evil I see here is…tag:www.adventistonline.com,2019-04-04:1451550:Comment:51108092019-04-04T00:41:09.851ZElijahhttp://www.adventistonline.com/profile/IanPoulsen
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<p>The only evil I see here is a fool trying to look wise. God is Bigger than the box you are putting Him in.</p>
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<p>The only evil I see here is a fool trying to look wise. God is Bigger than the box you are putting Him in.</p>
<p></p> Creed from Wordbook app dicti…tag:www.adventistonline.com,2019-04-03:1451550:Comment:51110242019-04-03T17:27:33.958ZJames Frenchhttp://www.adventistonline.com/profile/JamesFrench
<p>Creed from Wordbook app dictionary;</p>
<p>”ORIGIN: Old English creda "article or statement of Christian belief," from Latin credo "I believe," the first word of the Apostles' and Nicene Creeds, broadening 17c. to mean any statement of belief.”</p>
<p>What we believe is most important.</p>
<p>Keep mouthing what you have been taught without further investigation and therefore follow a false evil doctrine which is all contrary to what Jesus really IS. God and His Son are not blessed by pagan…</p>
<p>Creed from Wordbook app dictionary;</p>
<p>”ORIGIN: Old English creda "article or statement of Christian belief," from Latin credo "I believe," the first word of the Apostles' and Nicene Creeds, broadening 17c. to mean any statement of belief.”</p>
<p>What we believe is most important.</p>
<p>Keep mouthing what you have been taught without further investigation and therefore follow a false evil doctrine which is all contrary to what Jesus really IS. God and His Son are not blessed by pagan beliefs and chants, dogmas and creeds of the trinity.</p>
<p>I believe in one true God, The Father, and The Son of God Jesus Christ who is not equal with the Father.</p> “The Nicene Creed (Greek: Σύμ…tag:www.adventistonline.com,2019-04-03:1451550:Comment:51110842019-04-03T17:17:04.834ZJames Frenchhttp://www.adventistonline.com/profile/JamesFrench
<p>“The Nicene Creed (Greek: Σύμβολον τῆς Νικαίας or, τῆς πίστεως, Latin: Symbolum Nicaenum) is a statement of belief widely used in Christian liturgy. It is called Nicene /ˈnaɪsiːn/ because it was originally adopted in the city of Nicaea (present day İznik, Turkey) by the First Council of Nicaea in 325.[1] In 381, it was amended at the First Council of Constantinople, and the amended form is referred to as the Nicene or the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed.” Wikipedia; Catholic.</p>
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<p>“The Nicene Creed (Greek: Σύμβολον τῆς Νικαίας or, τῆς πίστεως, Latin: Symbolum Nicaenum) is a statement of belief widely used in Christian liturgy. It is called Nicene /ˈnaɪsiːn/ because it was originally adopted in the city of Nicaea (present day İznik, Turkey) by the First Council of Nicaea in 325.[1] In 381, it was amended at the First Council of Constantinople, and the amended form is referred to as the Nicene or the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed.” Wikipedia; Catholic.</p>
<p>325 AD Jesus declared second God with the point of Emperor Constatines sword at the throat of the church.</p>
<p>381 AD the holy spirit was declared to be the third God, completing the evolution of the so called trinity.</p>
<p>Most of Christianity including SDA is therefore following a Catholic Church dogma completely non-biblical and a pagan doctrine of Devils lie. Jews and early church had no belief or even conception of trinity, which is totally a corruption of the truth without true Biblical or historical foundation in the Hebrew or first century church.</p>
<p>Furthermore the SDA was originally anti-trinitarian, but evolved into trinity doctrine. Again history proves these facts. Creeds are man-made dogmas which denominations have embraced as beliefs.</p>
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“36 “But concern…tag:www.adventistonline.com,2019-04-03:1451550:Comment:51110832019-04-03T16:47:05.164ZJames Frenchhttp://www.adventistonline.com/profile/JamesFrench
<p>Matthew 24: </p>
<p>“36 “But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.”</p>
<p>Mark 13:</p>
<p>”32 “But concerning that day or that hour, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”</p>
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<p>Matthew 24: </p>
<p>“36 “But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.”</p>
<p>Mark 13:</p>
<p>”32 “But concerning that day or that hour, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”</p>
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