mcvega wrote:I am trying to find out when my grandparents were married. They were married in Cianciana, Sicily. It was either 1910 or 1911. The names are Francesco Castellano and Vincenza Taglialavore. Thank You

Erudita: We must have both hit the submit button at the same time because the first time I hit "submit" my post disappeared. My understanding is there are films available from the Family History Library for 1911-1923 so would your advice still be to contact the commune. I'll leave it with you and your expertise in these matters. I noticed as I was going through the banns that for some years there were allegati following the respective years so that is worth noting for future reference for anyone reading this site.

and I'm not sure I understand. From reading this previous thread, it sounds like you may have already located Francesco and Vincenza's 1911 marriage record when you visited Cianciana? Is that right or have I misinterpreted what you said?

Yes, you are right. When everything is in Italian I cannot read it. Thank You for showing me that. I will now write it down. I was hoping to get a date. I am pretty sure it is in June. I have learned a lesson, I shouldn't get so excited and not write down the translation, for some reason I think I will remember it and obviously I don't. Thanks for your help" Copied from the following thread as I think it was intended for here:http://www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/l ... 6#p201766t

No probs, easily done, and you are very welcome. I am glad you have the marriage record. Are you able to scan it and post it here and then we could take a look at it and interpret the date for you and also interpret anything else you might be unsure of.

Dated 30 September 1911 at 10.15 a.m.Francesco Castellano, Single, aged 20, Villico born and residing Cianciana son of Giuseppe Castellano and Giuseppa Cicero both residing in Cianciana.

Vincenza Taglialavore, unmarried woman (Nubile), aged (possibly 15 – little hard to decipher the writing – 16 or under anyways), there is another word after this which I can't decipher. Her occupation was Casalinga. She was born and residing in Cianciana and the daughter of the late Giovanni and of Rosa Cicero.

Interesting, if I am reading correctly both mothers had the surname Cicero – cousins maybe?

This is all I can read for the moment. It seems to go out of focus for me when I try and enlarge it. So fantastic you have this. Hopefully you will find more when you go to Sicily.

I think Rosa and Giuseppa were sisters but I am not sure. My grandparents always said they were cousins and use to play together when they were very young. Does it give a residence at all? This is my second trip to Cianciana and now I have the address where Francesco was born. I am hoping the people who live there still remembers the family and maybe they still live in Cianciana.

Thank you so much. I am immediately writing this on the certificate and putting it on my tree.Thank You

AngelaGrace56 wrote:Dated 30 September 1911 at 10.15 a.m.Francesco Castellano, Single, aged 20, Villico born and residing Cianciana son of Giuseppe Castellano and Giuseppa Cicero both residing in Cianciana.

Vincenza Taglialavore, unmarried woman (Nubile), aged 15, compiuto. Her occupation states Casalinga - so no profession and undertaking home duties. She was born and residing in Cianciana and the daughter of the late Giovanni and of Rosa Cicero.

Interesting, if I am reading correctly both mothers had the surname Cicero – cousins maybe?

This is all I can read for the moment. It seems to go out of focus for me when I try and enlarge it. So fantastic you have this. Hopefully you will find more when you go to Sicily.

Angela

Have just figured out the word I couldn't decipher so have edited my post here.

mcvega wrote:I think Rosa and Giuseppa were sisters but I am not sure. My grandparents always said they were cousins and use to play together when they were very young. Does it give a residence at all? This is my second trip to Cianciana and now I have the address where Francesco was born. I am hoping the people who live there still remembers the family and maybe they still live in Cianciana.

Thank you so much. I am immediately writing this on the certificate and putting it on my tree.Thank You

Fantastic and you are most welcome.

No it doesn't give an address unfortunately.

Re the word "compiuto" I think that it means that she had reached 15. (I need to read more about this.)

The lower part of the document before the signatures usually talks about when the marriage banns took place. I can see reference is possibly also being made to the fact that the bride's father had died. Maybe if I come back to it later with fresher eyes I'll be able to decipher a little more.