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The Fulton County police SWAT team was activated early Wednesday to serve felony warrants on two juveniles at a home off Godby Road. SWAT officers arrived at the home on Louis XIV Lane around 1 a.m.

Fulton County police Det. Melissa Parker said the SWAT team was used to serve the warrants on the 14- and 15-year-old boys for safety reasons. She said no one was injured during the incident, which wrapped up around 5 a.m.

At one point, a police helicopter with a spotlight hovered over the neighborhood off Godby Road.

Parker would not say what charges the teens face, but said they were part of an ongoing investigation.

SWAT teams are used in situations like these because it is more fun. Pure and simple. It could be a 99 year old great grandmother in a wheelchair, and they'd still break in the middle of the night like common thieves, toss a few flashbangs, shout, maybe fire a few rounds.

Way more exciting for our brave paladins of public order than watching, waiting, and effecting a normal arrest during daylight hours like civilized human beings.

Last edited by ManInBlack; 05-09-2012 at 08:36 AM.

Total ignorance: an Obama supporter's stock in trade

Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady

All the talk about Overthrowing Big Government, Revolution, etc., it's just another one of those nostalgic ideas that individuals have idealized.

If you don't think a 10-year-old could be a threat, you haven't met my daughter. Fortunately, she's one of the good guys.

Don't get any preconceived notions about where the attack is going to come from. That will simply lead to you getting blindsided. A skinny little 14-year-old girl is just as much a threat as any football playing high schooler.

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What does a caring, sensitive person feel when they are forced to use a handgun to stop a threat?

I understand the sentiment, but I wouldn't be joking. If you don't think a 10-year-old could be a threat, you haven't met my daughter. Fortunately, she's one of the good guys. Don't get any preconceived notions about where the attack is going to come from. That will simply lead to you getting blindsided. A skinny little 14-year-old girl is just as much a threat as any football playing high schooler.

So the paramilitarized police SWAT warrant service in this case was righteous in your opinion and for all other adolescent suspects?

SWAT teams are used in situations like these because it is more fun. Pure and simple. It could be a 99 year old great grandmother in a wheelchair, and they'd still break in the middle of the night like common thieves, toss a few flashbangs, shout, maybe fire a few rounds.

You may want to check on the statistics of past generations of peace officers dying in the line of duty.

I am not a LEO, but if I try to put myself in their position, I think they are under-dressed when breaching a door and putting themselves into an unknown situation.

You do realize that American LEOs are not now, and have never been, even in the top-10 when it comes to occupational mortality, don't you?

If you don't realize this no-knock stuff is getting out of control, you are simply uninformed.

Suspects in crimes have not been proven guilty of anything. What if they are innocent, or what if the police made a mistake and raided the wrong house, which has also happened. Citizens have been shot and killed because, having no reason to expect a violent intrusion by government, they treat it as a violent intrusion by criminals. How would you react, if your door was kicked in in the middle of the night, you had no idea why, and men wearing black masks were pointing guns at you?

If anything, this increases danger to the police. But most exciting things are dangerous...

Total ignorance: an Obama supporter's stock in trade

Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady

All the talk about Overthrowing Big Government, Revolution, etc., it's just another one of those nostalgic ideas that individuals have idealized.

You do realize that American LEOs are not now, and have never been, even in the top-10 when it comes to occupational mortality, don't you?

If you don't realize this no-knock stuff is getting out of control, you are simply uninformed.

Suspects in crimes have not been proven guilty of anything. What if they are innocent, or what if the police made a mistake and raided the wrong house, which has also happened. Citizens have been shot and killed because, having no reason to expect a violent intrusion by government, they treat it as a violent intrusion by criminals. How would you react, if your door was kicked in in the middle of the night, you had no idea why, and men wearing black masks were pointing guns at you?

If anything, this increases danger to the police. But most exciting things are dangerous...

I apologize profusely! I did not see in the story that this was a no-knock warrant served on the wrong house! It's horrible that they shot the civilians (and their little dog, too!)

Yes, no-knock warrants are being issued a bit too often. My earlier point is still valid: We don't know all the facts and we should not assume anything.

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What does a caring, sensitive person feel when they are forced to use a handgun to stop a threat?

Serving FELONY warrants on TWO people in one house! Using SWAT sounds much better than sending in two deputies to knock on the door. I believe in officer safety, and no one here knows what the actual charges were. If you think about it, it is much safer for the occupants in the house too.

Serving FELONY warrants on TWO people in one house! Using SWAT sounds much better than sending in two deputies to knock on the door. I believe in officer safety, and no one here knows what the actual charges were. If you think about it, it is much safer for the occupants in the house too.

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Was it safer for this guy?

Again, I ask you, what would you do if your door was kicked in the middle of the night, men dressed in black with masks on their faces point guns at you, and you have no idea why they're there or what is going on?

Total ignorance: an Obama supporter's stock in trade

Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady

All the talk about Overthrowing Big Government, Revolution, etc., it's just another one of those nostalgic ideas that individuals have idealized.

Occasionally mistakes are made ( ie. SWAT raids the wrong house) mistakes are also made by police officers, then the question is why weren't special tactics used. Any death is unacceptable. Additionally, if you are a wanted felon, you will be expecting and preparing for your door busted down at 3 am...They will be screaming POLICE! SEARCH WARRANT !

I wasnt replying about that man, I was replying to the original post that ARE wanted felons. I think I would be startled in the middle of the night and go for my firearm....but then I would hear the yelling of police and would NOT aquire them as a target, and then would comply with their commands.

I wasnt replying about that man, I was replying to the original post that ARE wanted felons. I think I would be startled in the middle of the night and go for my firearm....but then I would hear the yelling of police and would NOT aquire them as a target, and then would comply with their commands.

Police want to find two men who committed a home invasion by pretending they were officers.
Investigators in Nicholasville say the men forced their way into a home on Shun Pike this afternoon by claiming to be police.

OGDEN -- A violent home invasion in Ogden may have been a case of mistaken identity. One person is in jail, and police are looking for two other suspects. It happened before 2:00 a.m. Tuesday near 160 Patterson Street.
Investigators said the men were armed with sawed-off shotguns and a sledgehammer when they broke through the back door of the home.
"They represented themselves by yelling, ‘police,' and then asked for drugs, money and weapons," Ogden police Lt. Scott Sangberg said.

It seems as though the tactics of the public-sector criminal gangs are so effective, they are being widely adopted by the private-sector criminal gangs.

Last edited by ManInBlack; 05-09-2012 at 09:04 PM.

Total ignorance: an Obama supporter's stock in trade

Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady

All the talk about Overthrowing Big Government, Revolution, etc., it's just another one of those nostalgic ideas that individuals have idealized.

I think I would be startled in the middle of the night and go for my firearm....but then I would hear the yelling of police and would NOT aquire them as a target, and then would comply with their commands.

Thats assuming the police actually yell anything.... they don't always do that (even when they are supposed too).

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