Can anyone recomends good training driil,that includes transition between SUB mashine gun and pistol and tacticle reload, with or withought cover.Any kind of info about tacticle reload will be very usefull.THANK's

Draka, I just practice reloading. Not specifically tactical reloading. If I need to tactical reload just grab the partially empty mag in your gun and replace it with a fresh mag. There is no secret. With lots of practice it becomes second nature. I do practice while maintaining my view of the target.

At the range I like to practice double taps and reloading together. Just load 2 Rd's in each mag and shoot/load/shoot/load etc until your supply of mags runs dry. Dry fire as much as possible and pop mags in and out as much as possible.

As for transitioning from long gun to handgun......can't help much. If I'm using my long gun it would be hard for me to transition to a puny handgun without the long gun either running dry or malfunctioning. If that happens in a shootout I'd probably toss it aside (flame suit on).

Draka, If crouching puts you behind cover then crouch. Always try to reload from behind cover if it is at all possible. Remember most gunfights end with less than 5 shots being fired so chances are a reload will not be needed. I put more influence on other things in practice, like front sight location, the draw, and moving while maintaining a good sight picture or shooting. Others of more importance to me are shooting one handed and weak handed because the possibility is greater that I get wounded during the fight and need to continue with only one hand.

Draka - we use three point slings on our long guns; when they run dry of malfunction we just "sweep" them to the weak side while drawing our sidearms; the sling does the rest for us.

WRT "tactical" reloading ala the IDPA reload, I'm not a fan. It's a specialty skill that should only be used when you have a definite "lull" in the fight; not something you should be doing if there are still threats active in the area. Better to get VERY fast at reloading from slide lock ("Emergency Reload" for our agency) or just topping off with a fresh magazine ("Tactical Reload" for our agency). Neither of these skills requires any real thought, or any fine motor movements/juggling that is unlikely to be "do-able" in a gunfight.

Threegun's reload drill is as good as any; "shoot two, reload, shoot two repeat" will teach you the muscle memory you need to get fast at reloading. Once you've got the motions down, I like a more advanced technique wherein I load five or six magazines with anything from one to five rounds, put them in a pocket, and randomly load one, then put the rest in mag pouches. What this does is take some of the "game" out of the reload drill insofar as you don't have advanced warning of when you're going to have to reload...

FWIW, years of research and hunting have yet to provide a single non-military example of a tactical reload making any difference in the outcome of a fight. It is a nice skill for the range, but is one of those things that is of no importance to an actual fight. Work on a good controlled reload and forget about saving mags/ammo.

For my department, I teach "Combat/Emergency Reload" for most everything...if there's that much of a lull, pick up the dropped mag if you feel the need.
"Reload with Retention" for admin purposes or when being covered by a teammate.

I'm too much of a Murphy believer to put much stock in the "Tac Reload." Take any class that practices the Tac Reload and you'll see many people having a hard time with it under range conditions, much less under the stress of combat...and it only gets worse with hicap mags. Can some do it? Sure, but the "fumble rate" seems higher.

Mine...training and working with folks that carry at least 3 pistol mags, and many times, at least that many rifle mags. And in a city environment in TN, we are rarely knee deep in water or in several inches of snow.

I'd still say that if it's not something you have to be "blazing fast at" or you operate in an environment/situation that dictates something other than a "Combat Reload," then a "Reload with Retention" is still a better (more Murphy-proof) option than the "Tactical Reload."
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The difference is (and not just in MY mind, Dave Spaulding recently wrote an article on the subject in American Cop magazine, I believe, if you'd like to learn more about it), is that during a "Reload with Retention" you never handle two magazines at the same time. You basically stow the partially spent mag first before grabbing the new one.
In my opinion and experience, it's more reliable and not really any slower if you compare the techniques with a timer, as I have. If you don't have time to do a "Reload with Retention", you probably should have been doing a "Combat Reload" to begin with.

Ultimately, what works for you is the Right Way.
This seems to work for me and mine.
Sincerely.

Reloading with retention causes the gun to remain empty for the longest period. I believe that the fresh mag should be grabbed before the release of the other mag is pressed. If the partial mag drops oh well. If the bad guy attacks at the precise moment that you disengage the partial mag, the fresh mag is but inches away. If I had to choose between tactical and retention reloads , it has to be tactical.

Just try the "Reload with Retention" technique sometime. Give it an honest evaluation and make your decision from there.

Because it does not require the handling of two magazines at the same time, I find it much easier (and, for me, faster) to do under stress than a traditional "Tactical Reload." I think for those who practice a great deal with the TR, they'll be faster than the RWR guys. But for most of us, the RWR is actually a lot faster, and easier, to get done. And with a lot less fumbling (especially with my Glock magazines!)

you discover that the only mag you have left is in the gun.
Maybe you lost count, maybe you dropped your spare; the reason is unimportant. If you are doing a slide down speed reload or a tactical reload, the first step is to acquire the new magazine. Failure to acquire a new magazine means you don't unload your gun.
With the reload with retention, you have already unloaded your gun, and stored your partial mag before you go searching for your replacement magazine.
No, thank you, I'll stick to techniques that require me to confirm that I have a reload before I unload.

Reloading (+retention) is neither inherently slower nor completely administrative. It's all in the way you practice. Practiced inefficiently, then reloading with retention indeed leaves the weapon ineffective for the longest window of time.

However, if reloading with retention is something that you're interested in trying, there are a few things to consider:

Define "retention". Common-sense dictates that 'retention' simply mean a modicum of control. You don't HAVE to place the empty mag in your hip pocket. Practice placing it in your back pocket, practice dropping it into the collar of your shirt. For me, in a civilian encounter, 'retention' would simply mean knowing where the dropped magazine is so I can come back and get it later.
Don't drop the spent magazine until you have the fresh one in hand. Notice how your magazine is oriented in your weak hand after you pull it from the pouch; if you can easily rotate it so that it will slide right into the weapon, then good. If you have to rotate the mag all the way around before it will fit, consider putting the mag into the pouch oriented in the opposite direction...where the front of the mag faces up rather than down.

With practice (as with all things) you can execute a magazine change with retention just as quickly as one without. With the new mag in hand (and oriented in the right direction), drop the spent mag into the same hand that's holding the new mag, rotate that hand 90 degrees and then insert the new mag.

So there it is. If reloading with retention is important to you, give it a try. This is the same drill I had my guys use with their M16's and it worked out well enough.
That said, I don't truly see any real benefit to this skill for a civilian. As a civilian, your 'encounters' are going to statistically be few and far between - and that's if they EVER happen. Compared with a combat situation (where you're going through several magazines on a regular basis) you're not really going to need this kind of a skill. If the two or three magazines that most of us carry with us aren't enough to get you through a situation - then might I suggest that you should have been using those rounds to fight your way back to your car where your carbine should have been.

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