Stuxnet but for heaters and air conditioning? Seems like the banks wouldn't want the power going out, I have been hearing a lot more about "solutions" to this recently. Rand recently posted a video on youtube about Fort Knox power independence which is a red flag if I ever saw one, its a little disconcerting he brings this up as he goes to Russia. There are also plans to turn Hoover Dam up to 11 and pump water through the generators with solar power to make it a giant battery, (it only operates at 20% capacity). I always wondered if the Solar farm outside Vegas cooked all the bats we used to have when I was young.

This is a shit way to sell this political narrative that they were just being partisan when its obvious the DNC was using the deep state to rig the election. I think that's the reason why he claims that this is a first amendment issue, this is a political coverup of collusion of multiple government agencies to manipulate the 2016 election. Its one thing to fire the guy, but to fire the guy for being anti Trump is fake news.

I think its a problem but more of a social problem, there shouldn't be anyone who thinks there could be a government solution to this problem, The real solution is for people to vote with their wallet, when companies do abhorrent things they need to demand a better product or move on to using different services.

Anyone who has ever been against the wars should be able support this sentiment. There should be a bipartisan coalition demanding this. This is why I think the anti war liberals are gutless, I don't care who the fuck the President is, we should support the president doing the right things no matter what their party affiliation. They would oppose Trump if he were to try to do anything to restore diplomatic ties with Russia or avert war. This is what makes them the treasonous ones.

What if the hard drugs were legal to sell to someone like alcohol is and it was someone who was already addicted to them and they would die from withdrawals, or is it ethically worse to sell hard drugs to someone who has never tried them knowing they will get addicted?

We are all for free enterprise and greed that creates competing ideas and pits ambition against ambition which brings the best out of humanity and causes the least amount of people to go hungry. That doesn't mean someone is ethical because they did something unethical that was in their personal interests

This isn't a 5 minute news cycle thing, its a narrative the neocons have been pushing for over a year now. They started pushing this narrative when Rand was pushing for less expansions of NATO. Rand can't ever run for political office with support like yours though. You give the media narrative credibility when all you do is criticize Rand Paul, he will never accomplish anything with people working against him because they don't like his approach or strategy and cast doubt on his goals and aspirations. If you ever supported liberty you should be singing praise for the beatings Rand has taken trying to protect yours.

They are attacking him everywhere right now. They've been pushing this narrative that Rand is somehow working for the Russians, Rand couldn't find a better political ally than Trump's populist supporters who have been hypnotized into thinking and selling the idea that the Russian collusion narrative was an inside job manufactured by Hillary Clinton in order to win the 2016 election.

don't take your eye off of Iran, the Russian government has every incentive to prop up the Iranian regime in order to prop up their own regime. If America wanted to target Russia they would target their allies and regimes that are friendly with them in order to keep them contained and isolated.

Except Rand has been the biggest critic of the presidents policies. I think appealing to Trumps populism gives him the ability to fight the mainstream foreign policy because it makes him seem like he is part of the mainstream and the government is using propaganda to ostracize anyone who questions the mainstream foreign policy and label them as a Russian spy. Rand's strategy might be the only thing keeping the neocons from ostracizing Rand and kicking him out of the Republican party.

You're not seeing the forest through the trees. Libertarianism wasn't pushed to the sidelines, Rand used the tea party as a trojan like mechanism to insert libertarian views into the mainstream. You must of missed the part in the republican debate where multiple candidates tripped over eachother to proclaim how they are so Ron Paul. Rand is doing the same by trying to associate the Trump administration with libertarian policies and circumvent the mainstream narrative and making lemonade with lemons-if Rand can get Trump to put non interventionism into the Republican platform then its a lot more effective then not getting anything into the republican platform. I'm probably the most anti Trump person here, but forgive me if I don't start kicking and screaming if Trump tweeted he was for an audit of the federal reserve or for closing 5 federal government departments.

Hey Swordsmyth is right, damn I can't believe I am saying this. I can sleep better at night with Rand Paul talking to Trump about foreign policy, one could argue its fake news, which is fair, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. I am sure happy he isn't sending John Bolton to Russia. At the very least if Rand can use Trump to sell a non interventionist foreign policy to the Republican electorate it will be like riding a tidal wave with a surfboard instead of fighting against the tide trying to stop an unstoppable force.

Sorry I can't agree with you at all, I don't think anyone doubts Rand's anti war reputation, he already has a reputation for wanting diplomacy with Iran, not supporting regime change, he made that bed a long time ago -why do you think they ran a million dollar attack ad against him the day he announced running for president saying that he was for the Iran deal. No one is going to blame Rand Paul if the government pushes regime change in Iran. He has a career of being against war in the middle east.

In your mind it would be more politically effective for Rand to not try to politically move us in the direction of less war, or against war with Iran, because he can't do it? With you defeatist mindset we would all be drinking tea and brexiting or whatever the fuck that is.

You would think that everyone would be supporting Rand on this, he is forcing this into the conversation whether its effective or not we should be behind him, he is trying to prevent the extinction of humanity. If Rand Paul prevents World War 3, he won't get a peace prize, and his supporters will still blame him for endorsing Mitch McConnell.

well yeah, at the time the government was the only one who really used the internet, they paid private companies to do it, I am not opposed to that, I prefer that over government, it would of cost a lot more. The bulk of it was to pay companies to build networks where there is nobody even there to serve, building houses where no one wants to buy them.
You could say that is a boondoggle but if the private industry didn't do it then the government would of done it, they would of done it for government defense and communications which that was what it was designed for. You are also conflating the backbone service providers and last mile providers though, which is a common misconception.
It would cost over 140 billion dollars to put fiber to every bodies home, not even google could build that, and it wouldn't even be very marketable, especially because so many people have access to gigabit connections. The internet has only gotten faster after net neutrality was repealed, and there are wireless options that prevent companies from gaining monopolistic control and censoring or throttling data. If my ISP blocked me from watching Netflix I would just switch to another provider, they have no incentive to do that.

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