These frames look remarkably like Tiemeyer frames. It's my understanding that Mr. Tiemeyer might own copyrights to certain designs that he used in his frames. I can't see him being the "litigious type", but if you plan to sell these, maybe it would be cool to chat with him about your frames being inspired by his.

@carleton(disclaimer, FTW builds lots of bikes for my brand, Spooky, and these intial protos are heading to Spooky's new shop in NYC, I also work out of the back of his shop)

Tiemeyer quit making frames earlier this year. Everybody we've talked to said they were totally radical, so we wanted to make sure we made something that was at least as awesome.

As I'm sure you know the design features of those frames go all the way back to the mid 90's with the GT frames. In fact, the dropouts, seat-tube and seattube topper on your bike are left-over extrusions and forgings from the GT days. As far as it's been related to me Mr. T ran out of parts, so he quit making the bikes.

Frank actually cut up a Tiemeyer while he was putting this thing together: Structurally this bike is completely different but: these dropouts DO use the same inserts as the dozens of Tiemeyer and GT frames out there(because it's the best way to do it).

Essentially, besides the fact that the tubes are pretty dang big on both bikes they couldn't be more different!

TrackMonkey7

11-18-13 06:29 PM

Goodness, those frames look amazing.

ftwelder

12-04-13 05:13 AM

I made some requests for contact info for Tiemeyer in my first post in the track forum (and this thread), went to his website and tried the contact link in an effort to get files for the dropouts then went ahead and RE'd them myself and using a different "everything" anyway. I am a big fan of the Tiemeyer bike. I was also head-hunted by GT to work in Longmont and may have had a chance to work with him or whoever designed the bike but turned it down. I would like to know how the original bike came about and who worked on them but it's out of my hands at this point.

VanceMac

12-22-13 11:39 AM

Mickey or Frank, any photos of these painted or built up? Gorgeous.

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Originally Posted by mickey@spooky
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I snapped a couple of pictures before I tossed the frames in my car to take them down to heattreat

Nice little video of your work and history in the industry FTWelder! :thumb:

carleton

03-02-15 11:36 PM

Frank, where are yooooouuu...?

Tell us about your new track frame!

taras0000

03-02-15 11:49 PM

I emailed Frank. Hopefully he replies back here with some info. It's been a long time since I have been this excited about someone making a bike.

McRussellPants

03-03-15 12:09 AM

bike frame builders are so awesome at getting wide/flat aluminum beads on what I'd guess is pretty thin material. wish that would transfer to the racing community, car dudes aluminum welding is boring.

ftwelder

03-03-15 09:01 AM

Hi!~ how are you guys? Thanks for the kind words! I filled the requests I got for two frames and in the mean time the company that drew the tubes closed it's doors. In addition, 2.5" diameter .065" wall tube seems not to be available. I have a seat tube and a down tube and may be dropouts left.

You can find a lot of Frank's work on flickr, his blog, and facebook. His abilities as a craftsman truly transcend the art of framebuilding. He machines his own dies to form and shape tubes, repairs old arabic flintlock musket parts, makes custom parts for motorcycles,...