I tried in our pool a few years back, and at 3 feet I could not overcome the water pressure to breath.

Fond memories! When I was about 14, my buddy and I would go swim in the river around some rocks to retrieve Shad lures after the shad run. We would snorkel in the somewhat murky water - had to our masks close to the rocks to find them. I had the bright idea to add length to my snorkel - about 2 feet. We would hold a big rock to pull us down. I found out that a couple feet down I could exhale quite well but not inhale!

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John Sawicky

Just North-East of Sacramento...

SkyTrak 9038, Davis Little Monster backhoe, Case 16+4 Trencher, Home Built 42" capacity/32" cut Bandmill up to 54' long - using it all to build a timber frame cabin.

Thanks for the objective input to both dochenderson and doctorb.I wonder how manufacturers such as GM, Ford, etc can change over to manufacturing ventilators, masks, personal protective gear etc in a timely fashion.I agree with our NY Governor on some of his points but most of his demands are IMO not feasible.We have been sheltering in place except for docs appts.I have one this PM in Syracuse for pre op consult for a high end pacemaker.I guess this is not considered elective stuff.

I wonder how manufacturers such as GM, Ford, etc can change over to manufacturing ventilators, masks, personal protective gear etc in a timely fashion.

From what I've heard, GM and others are repurposing some car ventilation parts for use in ventilators. Plus all auto manufacturers make a vast array of injection molded parts and those large injection molding machines can easily be set up with quickly made dies to make tens of thousands of parts in a short amount of time. Plus there is a local story about doctors at the U of MN that have assembled a ventilator with off the shelf parts. It's simply a slow turning motor with an adjustable length plunger arm that pumps a ventilator bag. Never underestimate the innovative ability of the people to make do with simple solutions.

I think these motor companies and others have offered up assistance and producing medical supplies close to 2 weeks ago. I know the prime minster mentioned it, so your government knew then to. But it is interesting to follow and see what they are getting done. Unlike the naysayers out there this doesn't take forever to do. Heck they had a job to do during WWII and it didn't take 6 years to get started. Same with building the Alaskan highway during wartime, today that would take 20 years. Good grief. But it sure don't have to. If you want to get stuff done, get on with it.

I'd like to see some reporting about how the virus spread locally. They must collect some info from people who test positive about who they were in contact with and how they may have contracted it. I'm sure this becomes nearly impossible in places like New York and WA state, but here in VA we have just a bit over 300 cases as this afternoon. Surely this can be more or less traced back to our patient-zero. In the way distant past, enterprising journalists would have dug into this and reported on it. There doesn't seem to be much journalistic interest in something like this. I dug around and can find very little that actually sheds some light on how some of this spread is taking place. I'm pretty sure that as much information as possible is being collected from patients who test positive.

Has anybody seen anything useful about this for your area or any area?

Our county health depts have people assigned to play detective and investigate who made contact with who. once those numbers multiply it becomes impossible to continue. Given that the county which had 37 cases had stopped what they call "tracing", that provides incite into just how many contacts (overall) happen in these folks who test positive. My county has two cases who are unknown persons as we see in the news as well, privacy laws? If I had it I'd want the area near me to know to stay away from me for their benefit. Reporting will be anectdotal from those who share it on their own I guess.

Eight new cases in NB, Premier sets check points at borders. Travel into NB that is not necessary is now prohibited and people can be turned back others will have to self isolate 14 days. Anyone who doesn't comply could face a fine of up to $10,000.Commercial traffic and essential services will be exempt, said Premier Higgs.

Officers will collect the identity of those individuals, as well as their intended destination and contact information, the premier said.The officers will also follow up to ensure compliance, even if the individuals are only travelling through New Brunswick to another province, the premier said.

People, do not ingest chloroquine phosphate, an additive from fish tank cleaner. A couple in Arizona tried that and it did not go well. The husband died and the wife is very ill. (it's on several news sites) This is not the same chloroquine formulation in human medicine for malaria.

Despite a certain political assertion as a possible curative, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has said there is no available data from randomized clinical trials to inform the use of hydroxychloroquine against the novel coronavirus.

Despite a certain political assertion as a possible curative, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has said there is no available data from randomized clinical trials to inform the use of hydroxychloroquine against the novel coronaviru

Those tests are currently underway in Australia and New Zealand (probably elsewhere as well). But they don't have any results yet.

Day one of a minimum 4 week lockdown here in NZ. Only essential services are open, everyone else stays at home. (well you can go out for a walk, or to get groceries, but avoid people). 2 of my part time jobs are on the "essential" list, Mail and IT Support for other essential operations, but we have minimised people in the mail depot (some of the contractors are sorting from home etc) and Signature parcels no longer get signed for. Most of my IT work has been remote (setting up other people to work from home).

Called into the supermarket on the way home to grab a couple of things. They are open, most things in stock, but pretty quite compared with the last couple of weeks. A lot of places have "skeleton" staff, like you can phone and get parts for your Tractor etc, as farming is "essential", not to mention the animal welfare issues.

Anyway, that's our "new normal" for the next month at least. At least I have the shed and a good stash of wood to work with, so I have a bolt hole there.

Went to a small store that sells pizza, sandwiches, beer. They had a sneeze guard up too. Hardware/feed store I work at reduced hours. We was open 7:30 to 6. Now 8 to 4. Won't be late for supper now. We been making quota, so can't say it's because it's slow.The store I posted about the first guard had a pound of bacon for $3!! Went back today and bought some more!! I have 8 pounds of bacon that I bought in the last week. Most times they have a sale like that, it's gone like toilet paper. Seem like everyone is more concerned about TP. That is good, leaves more bacon for me.

Went to a small store that sells pizza, sandwiches, beer. They had a sneeze guard up too. Hardware/feed store I work at reduced hours. We was open 7:30 to 6. Now 8 to 4. Won't be late for supper now. We been making quota, so can't say it's because it's slow.The store I posted about the first guard had a pound of bacon for $3!! Went back today and bought some more!! I have 8 pounds of bacon that I bought in the last week. Most times they have a sale like that, it's gone like toilet paper. Seem like everyone is more concerned about TP. That is good, leaves more bacon for me.

I heard yesterday that my cousin and her husband in NYC likely have the virus. Came down with the symptoms (including respiratory) so they went to the hospital. They were told that they probably had the virus but no test kits were available. They were sent home to isolate and return if things got worse.

Made be curious if people like this, who haven't officially been tested, are counted?

Alan

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I heard yesterday that my cousin and her husband in NYC likely have the virus. Came down with the symptoms (including respiratory) so they went to the hospital. They were told that they probably had the virus but no test kits were available. They were sent home to isolate and return if things got worse.

Made be curious if people like this, who haven't officially been tested, are counted?

Alan

Yes, counted and marked as probable most likely. Here in NB we just don't have the capacity to keep up with demand on testing. As of yesterday I think less than 1800 tests in 2 weeks. Basically being told to assume we have it until proven otherwise, is what it boils down to.

The data at the "corona virus act now" website has been called in to question. I did read that they used 'general US' for a demographic though that wasn't clearly explained. Several of thier predictions have not come to pass but that may be due to the whole US staying pretty much home which might not have been factored in.

I've seen some states have thier own similar charts and that's good.

Also in my visiting different state's dept. of health websites, many of them aren't testing anyone besides healthcare workers, hospital patients and group home type situations so data about actual illness seems pretty thin.

I've come to the conclusion that, although the curves have gone exponential of reported/presumed cases, it is VERY under reported. My hope is that most are very minor cases (unnoticed or slight illness) and the "herd" is becoming immune. The reported/presumed cases in my state are doubling every couple/three days. If the new 45 minute quick test gets rolled out in sufficient numbers that they freely test (like SK), I think the graphs will go into orbit.

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John Sawicky

Just North-East of Sacramento...

SkyTrak 9038, Davis Little Monster backhoe, Case 16+4 Trencher, Home Built 42" capacity/32" cut Bandmill up to 54' long - using it all to build a timber frame cabin.

Wow, right now, China, US and Italy are all pretty much the same numbers. And we've got 125,000 more cases globally in 2 days. The China numbers seem to be stable actually though, assuming they have not cut us off.