Someone who is overly concerned with the behaviour of others.Someone who doesn't think like you.Concern yourself with eradicating your own defilements, Dawn.

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.” - Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:in mountain clefts and chasms,loud gush the streamlets,but great rivers flow silently.- Sutta Nipata 3.725

Ben wrote:Someone who is overly concerned with the behaviour of others.Someone who doesn't think like you.Concern yourself with eradicating your own defilements, Dawn.

I try.

That is good for you.I wish you every success!

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.” - Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:in mountain clefts and chasms,loud gush the streamlets,but great rivers flow silently.- Sutta Nipata 3.725

Caraka wrote:I think so, yes. But, is one buddhist that are aware of his/hers egoism and by practice work to towards a better being the same as an ignorant buddhist that is not aware of his/hers egoism?

I also think egoism is direct related to the precept of not taking anything that does not belong to you, and according to Surangama Sutra then risk to fall into the realm of heretics.

Verse 63: The fool who knows that he is a fool can, for that reason, be a wise man; but the fool who thinks that he is wise is, indeed, called a fool.

The Story of Two Pick-Pockets

While residing at the Jetavana monastery, the Buddha uttered Verse (63) of this book, with reference to two pick-pockets.

On one occasion, two pick-pockets joined a group of lay-disciples going to the Jetavana monastery, where the Buddha was giving a discourse. One of them listened attentively to the discourse and soon attained Sotapatti Fruition. However, the second thief did not attend to the discourse as he was bent on stealing only; and he managed to snatch a small sum of money from one of the lay-disciples. After the discourse they went back and cooked their meal at the house of the second thief, the one who managed to get some money. The wife of the second thief taunted the first thief, "You are so wise, you don't even have anything to cook at your house." Hearing this remark, the first thief thought to himself, "This one is so foolish that she thinks she is being very smart." Then, together with some relatives, he went to the Buddha and related the matter to him.

To the man, the Buddha spoke in verse as follows:

Verse 63: The fool who knows that he is a fool can, for that reason, be a wise man; but the fool who thinks that he is wise is, indeed, called a fool.

At the end of the discourse, all the relatives of the man attained Sotapatti Fruition.

I've come across many 'Proud' Buddhists who can recite sutra's, know loads of terminologies, think they have attained much, but what they've attained is merely an attachment to Buddhism.

"The original heart/mind shines like pure, clear water with the sweetest taste. But if the heart is pure, is our practice over? No, we must not cling even to this purity. We must go beyond all duality, all concepts, all bad, all good, all pure, all impure. We must go beyond self and nonself, beyond birth and death. When we see with the eye of wisdom, we know that the true Buddha is timeless, unborn, unrelated to any body, any history, any image. Buddha is the ground of all being, the realization of the truth of the unmoving mind.” Ajahn Chah

greggorious wrote:I've come across many 'Proud' Buddhists who can recite sutra's, know loads of terminologies, think they have attained much, but what they've attained is merely an attachment to Buddhism.

I'am one of them.It's a good exemple of buddhist egoism.

But here we must make some distinctions that is not simple to see:- if they are atached to The Buddhism or to The Dhamma- if they recite Dhamma suttas leading by egoistic motivation, or altruistic- if they do that they preach

Also, a good question is, why this kind of 'proud buddhist' stress me?

why do you think people have big egos?just because they hold a view different from yours doesn't mean they are egotistic, or proud.what the question you should be asking regarding others is "Do they put in any practice, and (at least) try to walk their talk; or do they make excuses to not have to practice and live up to their own words?"but far more importantly "why should anyone comply to what you think?"like one of my favourite Stephen Fry quotes says

Stephen Fry wrote:"It's now very common to hear people say 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if it gives them certain rights; its actually nothing more... it's simply a whine. its no more than a whine. 'I find it offensive,' it has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that,' well so £*"&ing what!

I have seen many people who talk a good walk but don't try (or twist words to give a false appearance), and feign courtesy, respect, niceness just to feel superior.

He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them. But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion … ...He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.John Stuart Mill

There are all kinds of egoism, from the overt to the more subtle. The good news is that with the practice of the Dhamma, the degrees of egoism can fade. And with progress can come spiritual-materialism-ego. And then even that can fade and disappear, but not until one becomes an arahant. Even an anāgāmī (non-returner) still has some subtle conceit remaining.

Even though they may say, "We aren't dear to ourselves," still they are dear to themselves. Why is that? Of their own accord, they act toward themselves as a dear one would act toward a dear one; thus they are dear to themselves.'"

Just that! *smile*...We Buddhists must find the courage to leave our temples and enter the temples of human experience, temples that are filled with suffering. If we listen to Buddha, Christ, or Gandhi, we can do nothing else. The refugee camps, the prisons, the ghettos, and the battlefields will become our temples. We have so much work to do. ... Peace is Possible! Step by Step. - Samtach Preah Maha Ghosananda "Step by Step" http://www.ghosananda.org/bio_book.html

BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Punna Sutta Nate sante baram sokham _()_

A quote that is good if bared in mind: "If you are stressed by an act/behavior of somebody else, it is something you actually don't like in regard of yourself" Stress is very importand to learn and go back to the place of practice again.

Just that! *smile*...We Buddhists must find the courage to leave our temples and enter the temples of human experience, temples that are filled with suffering. If we listen to Buddha, Christ, or Gandhi, we can do nothing else. The refugee camps, the prisons, the ghettos, and the battlefields will become our temples. We have so much work to do. ... Peace is Possible! Step by Step. - Samtach Preah Maha Ghosananda "Step by Step" http://www.ghosananda.org/bio_book.html

BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Punna Sutta Nate sante baram sokham _()_

Just that! *smile*...We Buddhists must find the courage to leave our temples and enter the temples of human experience, temples that are filled with suffering. If we listen to Buddha, Christ, or Gandhi, we can do nothing else. The refugee camps, the prisons, the ghettos, and the battlefields will become our temples. We have so much work to do. ... Peace is Possible! Step by Step. - Samtach Preah Maha Ghosananda "Step by Step" http://www.ghosananda.org/bio_book.html

BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Punna Sutta Nate sante baram sokham _()_

Just that! *smile*...We Buddhists must find the courage to leave our temples and enter the temples of human experience, temples that are filled with suffering. If we listen to Buddha, Christ, or Gandhi, we can do nothing else. The refugee camps, the prisons, the ghettos, and the battlefields will become our temples. We have so much work to do. ... Peace is Possible! Step by Step. - Samtach Preah Maha Ghosananda "Step by Step" http://www.ghosananda.org/bio_book.html

BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Punna Sutta Nate sante baram sokham _()_

I guess in your case maybe an huge ego hidden in pubbekata-hetu-ditthi-vada, but that does not really matter to you, isn't it? Thanks for your sample anyway. For some it might be useful.

Just that! *smile*...We Buddhists must find the courage to leave our temples and enter the temples of human experience, temples that are filled with suffering. If we listen to Buddha, Christ, or Gandhi, we can do nothing else. The refugee camps, the prisons, the ghettos, and the battlefields will become our temples. We have so much work to do. ... Peace is Possible! Step by Step. - Samtach Preah Maha Ghosananda "Step by Step" http://www.ghosananda.org/bio_book.html

BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Punna Sutta Nate sante baram sokham _()_