Yeah, I'm having a hard time deciding if the 3gee Accord (86-89) would qualify (since I'm a moderator on 3geez.com). I had a hard enough time with my 84. But figure if I post it with my 81, then it's good to go I don't have a lot of friends with old Hondas, just 3g Accords, and all the new ones. Then there are my friends who won't drive anything without a V8...