Dimensio:Aldon: Fark It: Aldon: Not even your article says confiscation is being proposed, though it tries to use a lot of weasel words to seem like that is what he is saying. And also no one is even suggesting it is for all firearms.

anyway... states rights

Those goalposts, they heavy?

Haha! Project much?

Where in that article shows someone in power proposing confiscation of firearms?

"Even if you have them, I think we need to start taking them," Muhlbauer said.

Doesn't count! An elected official proposing gun confiscation isn't "someone in power proposing confiscation of firearms!"

MFAWG:Pointing out thate firearms serve no purpose other than to kill things is absurd to you?

Really?

The NRA trains tens of thousands of Boy Scouts every year in basic rifle marksmanship. Do you now live in fear of the NRAs private army of Boy Scout assassins, or do you admit the absurdity of your statement?

AngryJailhouseFistfark:The game of "I'm testing you" is long and tedious, like watching Abe Vigoda seducing Betty White and the two of them enjoined in sexual congress. It holds neither entertainment nor instructional value for any of us.

I would pay real money if they did that on the back of a monster crocodile, wrapped in an American flag with the God Emperor of Mankind looking down sternly on the scene from above.

redmid17:Zasteva:All good examples. So you are fully in support of laws requiring trigger/hammer locks for stored weapons, or storage in a gun safe when not on your person? Because most of the pro-gun crowd seem to be vociferously against them.

redmid17: Any of those laws would get tossed in about 15 seconds after the summary judgment was requested, and I'm saying that as someone who stores his guns in a locked gun cabinet with either a trigger lock or breech lock as convenience dictates.

Hmm... I have you farkied as a d*ckhead from another thread where you referred to a 15 year old rape victim as a "stripper". So your judgement is questionable at best.

Has anything changed in the past 4 weeks re gun laws or American culture as it relates to violence?

Illinois governor and shameless liar Pat Quinn used an amendatory veto to alter the recently passed concealed weapons permit law into uselessness while citing the crime rates of Chicago, which imposes very strict restrictions upon civilian firearm possession, as justification.

Tomorrow's thread on the override vote is gonna be EPIC!

I have not been anticipating any discussion of the vote; previous news regarding the matter (the governor's delay in addressing the bill and his eventual amendatory veto) did not, to my knowledge, reach Fark's Main or Politics pages.

Nope, it didn't make Fark before, but it might tomorrow. Tuesday both chambers of the Illinois General assembly will hold a vote to override Quinn's amendatory veto. Illinois is the last state prohibiting the carrying of firearms for self defense, a prohibition that was struck down by the 7th Circuit Court. July 9 is the deadline to have a law in place allowing concealed carry. If no law is in place and barring an appeal by Lisa Madigan to the SC, one of two things will happen, either "constitutional carry" or in Illinois' case FOID carry will be the rule or each county and home rule community will set their own laws. IMHO, the veto will be overridden and H183 will become law.

Truly, violent times are ahead for the state of Illinois. Less than six months after "shall-issue" concealed weapons permits were first issued in Wisconsin, a concealed weapons permit holder in the state shot another individual at an Aldi's grocery store over a simple disagreement*.

Great Janitor: Gun laws don't make me any safer. They just make it harder for me to defend myself.

Because that's what you do, walk around terrified of everything. That must suck.Straw manYou only wear a seat belt because you plan on running down preschoolers and are terrified you'll get hurt when doing so, right?

The difference is unless you live in a dangerous area the chances of you needing a gun are less than needing a helmet in case you trip and hit your head. I propose anyone who thinks they need to be carrying at all times should also be wearing a helmet and some kind of utility built equipped with first aid and a fire extinguisher.

hailin:Ah I think I just realized why this crap happens. In the article, the kid said he saw his cousins go to prison and when they got out they were surrounded by girls. So we just need to teach women to respect themselves and not date sleezeballs who have been to prison. If they don't get girls then it won't be "cool" to be a criminal.

Not saying it is a realistic solution, but better than restrictive gun laws that protect no one.

Well, young girls are generally attracted to "bad boys" and are only interested in the nice guys after they don't want to have sex anymore and are ragged out from the 100 longhairs they have allowed to root around inside them.