please figured it was only a matter of time before peter comes back as spider man for mostly a due to a movie coming out . and two fans know spider man is peter parker. though that also means doctor octopus will proably be doing another body change.

It had to happen unfortunately. Maybe they will finally get Peter back to being a good character, but I doubt it. Otto Spider-Man has been really good, but there have definitely been some hiccups/inconsistencies from time to time. And of course they brought back Humberto Ramos...sigh...

I'm honestly surprised that Spider-Ock lasted as long as it did. I really enjoyed it, certainly more than any Peter Parker story of the past few years. It's kind of lost the magic now Otto has purged Peter's memories but I expect that's just to lead into Peter's return from the dead.

I just started reading Spidey Ock and - as someone who initially groaned at the idea - I'm enjoying the hell out of it. It and Superior Foes are the first Spidey-related *anything* I've enjoyed since Spectacular Spider-Man went off the air. I'm actually curious for what's in store.

Seeing the headline my first thought was "They're bringing back Ultimate Peter Parker? I thought they used OG Galactus to destroy that universe..." then I remembered that OG Spidey got killed off awhile back.

What if Marvel revolving door of death is just Death deciding to have dinner guests over and the beings below her just so happens generally can't remember their teramsue from beyond; but she's a good host and allows them to leave after a lively discussion over coffee?

It was pretty gnarly seeing Miguel O'Hara again. I hope they keep him around for a while. I'm curious to see how they are going to go about bringing Peter back, and how he is going to deal with the changes Ock has made to his life..Especially with Anna Maria.

So difficult... I want comic book companies to do interesting stories and not reset the status quo every 5 years because it makes following the comics meaningless BUT whenever they do anything like this it is stupid and treats the characters like crap.

Yeah, Marvel screwed the pooch when the first Iron Man movie came out at roughly the same time Civil War was "re-imagining" Tony Stark as a cross between J. Edgar Hoover, Joe McCarthy and Dick Cheney. Potential new fans charmed by Robert Downey Jr. picked up the comics and let out a collective "WTF!" that shook the company to its core.

Honestly, I don't know how the in-universe characters could be so dense as to not see the dramatic changes and say, "That's not Spidey."

Yeah, yeah... The Avengers tested him and found out it WAS Pete, but they should know that brains get swapped all the time in their world. Spidey wouldn't call people "cretin" or "simpleton", he wouldn't have minions, he wouldn't use mind control on the Sinister Six, he wouldn't pick a fight with the rest of the Avengers, and he wouldn't act like such a hateful asshole all the time.

And as if that's not enough to tip EVERYONE off that this is Doc Ock, Spidey's also wandering around with the extra arms Tony Stark made him, but altered to behave more like Doc Ock's arms. They've all seen Doc Ock fight, and I'm sure he's using the arms the same way... So WHAT THE HELL, PEOPLE? Isn't it OBVIOUS this is Doctor Octopus?!?!

All this arc has done for me is to make me hate Otto even more than I did before, and to feel left out in the cold as there was no decent Peter Parker Spider-Man to be seen anywhere.

@nix.nightbird What's actually a really interesting contrast though is that though Ock has made through his own arrogance massive house of dominoes that the Goblin King's about to bring down, as Peter Parker he's actually left Peter's life on VERY solid ground.

* Making the Sinister Six hate him more than they ever have by enslaving them.

* Additionally, ruining any chance of Sandman reforming again.

* Losing his dream job in exchange for running a large corporation (not Pete's dream at all; That was Otto's desire.)

* Having to tell a bunch of paid minions that they're fired.

* Having to dismantle every spider-bot in the city.

But hey... He's got an advanced degree, a startup corporation (that Pete never wanted), a girlfriend that fell for Otto Octavius, and some extra gadgets he never needed before... I'm sure he'll be thrilled.

@nix.nightbird@ComradeDread1 And interestingly enough, it sounds like the upcoming arc is "the Shi'ar find out that there's a Jean Grey that's alive in the present day." And they're understandably pissed off because of the whole "blowing up a sun and killing millions" her future self does.

They've actually shown quite a bit of restraint in keeping her dead since the last time she died.