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Pure speed.

With the original Dogma reaching the top of the asymmetrical design pedestal, Pinarello's engineers were still possessed to relentlessly press on towards race-tuned perfection. In fact, it seems that Pinarello made this its destiny, tirelessly refining what many already called perfect. This dedicated team of frame designers went at it again, working with professional cycling teams around the world to rewrite those asymmetric conventions, developing perhaps the pinnacle of bicycle frame innovation with the new Dogma 65.1 Think 2.

Rather than digging even deeper, and risk damaging the cornerstone of Pinarello engineering in its quest to create the next Dogma successor, the Italian engineers reached out to their Japanese carbon fiber suppliers at Torayca and flatly challenged the composite giant to improve upon its flagship 60HM1K cloth. The end result? The Dogma 65.1 Think2, hewn from Torayca's all-new 65-ton 65HM1K Nano-alloy Carbon Fiber -- a carbon that's more rigid and reactive than anything that Pinarello has ever used on a bike frame. A full 65-tons per square centimeter, to be exact. The increased rigidity allows Pinarello to use less carbon fiber in key areas, thereby lowering the weight of the Dogma and dispelling myths that the Dogma is not a bike for climbers. When you think of the 65.1 Think2, you may think of Britain's Team Sky, perhaps because this bike has been ridden by a Sky rider to Yellow in France for two consecutive years. This year, Chris Froome took top Tour honors, but his wasn't the only Think2 to end up on the podium. Movistar's Nairo Quintana earned second place, the White Jersey, and the Climber's Jersey with this bike.

Even with the new cloth, the Dogma 65.1 Think2 follows in the same mold and distinct identity of the Dogma 2, which, of course, retained much of the asymmetrical shaping of its predecessor. And while the bloodlines of the Dogma are very much intact, Pinarello continues to push the envelope to further enhance the frame's formula. Once again, it has succeeded in the creation of a bike that is stiffer, lighter, and even more responsive than its predecessor. Furthermore, carefully engineered internal cable routing on the new Dogma 65.1 allows for you to easily choose between either mechanical or electronic shifting systems, without any penalty to the bike's aesthetic or its aerodynamic profile. Gone are the days of separate Dogma frames for each system. Instead, the 65.1 features interchangeable cable stops at the frame openings that are capable of being intuitively swapped out should you prefer SRAM Red for one season, then Campagnolo Super Record EPS the next.

During the two years in which the original Dogma sat atop the Pinarello family of frames, Pinarello studied and restudied the forces in action as a rider sprints on the pedals, pulls on the handlebars, and muscles the bike through corners. FEA (finite element analysis) confirmed that the Dogma's asymmetrical design was beneficial in leveling the variances in frame deflection from one side to the other. However, Pinarello knew that it could take the asymmetry to new levels with the Dogma 2 -- continued in the Dogma 65.1. One big change is in the top tube, which has been moved slightly off-center towards the right side of the bike in order to further this effort towards equilibrium.

In addition to this, Pinarello addressed another area for potential improvement -- the aerodynamics and stiffness of the front end of the bike. This Dogma is fitted with a 1.5-inch lower headset bearing, which allows a larger diameter steerer tube at the fork crown. The resulting benefit for you is a 19% boost in front end stiffness, which translates to predictable braking and a more precise steering feel. Another part of the fork redesign includes smoother, more aerodynamic fork legs, and a sculpted crown that integrates seamlessly into the reshaped down tube. With this much attention to the asymmetrical design aspects of the Dogma, it's easy to overlook it from a distance. Only when you're close enough to touch it will you really be able to discern the subtle differences. The left and right sides of the bike bear different tube shapes as well as general tube sizes. You're able to see these differences in the top tube, the fork legs, and both seatstays and chainstays.

As with the 60HM1K carbon fiber, Torayca is again using its Nano-alloy technology on the 65HM1K. Alloy nano-particles are embedded into the carbon itself. Upon significant impact (i.e. a final turn crash at the State Criterium Championship), these particles 'explode.' In other words, they absorb the kinetic energy of impact forces so that the carbon itself won't have to. The other advancement of note on this Dogma is the actual manufacturing process employed in its construction. Pinarello starts with a polystyrene form as a base for the initial layup of material -- a method which is significantly more precise, as each layer is placed exactly where it is designed to be according to the FEA testing. In this regard, it's a more reliable and consistent method than molding with an internal bladder. The use of polystyrene also results in even compaction of the laminate, with less wrinkling of the carbon material or trapped gas or resin that causes structural weak spots over time. The form is removed with a recoverable solvent. A cross-section of this Dogma frame will reveal a surprisingly smooth finish that nearly matches the outside.

The Pinarello Dogma 65.1 Think2 Road Bike Frame is available in 12 sizes from 42 to 62cm and in the colors Black/white gloss, Black/orange matte, BoB, and Movistar. The frame comes standard with the road-dampening Onda 2 asymmetrical carbon fiber fork, a Pinarello integrated 1-1/8 to 1.5in press-in headset, and a Dogma 2 carbon fiber seatpost. It requires an Italian bottom bracket and a braze-on front derailleur.

Here's what others have to say...

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On a 62 cm frame what is the maximum distance from BB (center) to seat clamp. Great stack and TTT on this frame but it looks like the seat post is an integral part of the frame and I need to ensure I have enough leg room at 36" inseam.

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AMAZING!!!!

Familiarity:
I've put it through the wringer

Without a doubt, this is the most incredible machine that I've ever ridden. I went with a slightly larger than usual frame as I like a little more wheelbase, and I've not been disappointed. My first long ride on the Dogma was a 200K brevet on rough central Texas roads, and it failed to disappoint. Normally, I would never have taken a full-on race rig on this type of ride, and the bike certainly felt like a pure bred race bike; however, the biggest surprise was how comfortable I remained at the 100 mile mark!

Enough cannot be said about how GOOD this bike truly is!! With that being said, I'm a little disappointed with the paint on my BoB. I've had a lot paint chip on the fork around the front brakes. This may just be me nit-picking, but Pinarello has always been known for their paintwork, and I expected a little bit more from them in the department. Like I said though, this is just me nit-picking, and this may be an isolated occurrence.

Competitive Cyclist have made me a life time customer with this purchase! They have been MORE then helpful and accommodating along the way. Replacing everything from stems that were the wrong size (my fault) as well as saddles that didn't fit right, Competitive Cyclist have truly been the best retailer I've dealt with to date.

Comment on yourDisplayName's review:

Best bike overall to date

I have owned lots of bikes in the past few years from most major brands including some from Pinarello, but not the dogma. I don't usually write reviews, but after riding this bike, I said to myself that review is a must. First of, the guys at competitive are amazing with the level of customer support. I always deal with Josh C. and he knows his Pinarellos in and out. I have only had a limited riding trial with this bike, I have it built with 11 speed di2 as well as the new reynolds 46 aero wheels. There not one aspects that really stands out, but overall it has an amazing feel to the bike. Great acceleration, stability, stiffness, but not so that you feel beat up by it. It is like I combined different aspects from 4 of my other road bikes together and it all came together into this one bike. If you can afford it, look no further. Josh at x 4365 will never stear you in the wrong direction no matter what your riding styles or interestes are.

Mr. H Racing On The Pinarello Dogma

Comment on Cameron's video:

Just solid, everywhere, all the time

Familiarity:
I've put it through the wringer

I spent a summer on this frame, and there were lots of qualities that were great, but one thing always stood out - it's just solid. It feels almost weirdly-solid in corners, out of the saddle climbing/sprinting, over rough ground, etc. It seems so simple (and not exotic like you'd expect a Dogma review to read), but after you ride one, you look back at all the previous bikes you've owned and realize they just weren't that solid. One big grin and two thumbs up.

Comment on Andrew Renner's review:

ITS PASSION ITS BEAUTIFUL ITS ITALIAN

Comment on Joshua C's photo:

The Credo of Treviso

Familiarity:
I've put it through the wringer

Is no longer steel. I?m a little young to have sampled the frames Pinarello chiseled from the earth?s crust for Der Kaiser, but I now understand what riders talk about when they say ??it?s a Pina,? and reference their Torayca-laid wunderbikes.

I?ll admit, I used to be a bit of a hater. ?Oh, nearly all carbon frames ride the same?, I?d preach, whenever consulted about the purported dream-like quality of the newer Pinarellos. Of course, I?d never had a real chance to swing a leg over one. Now, thanks to their generous sponsorship, I was finally able to sample the bikes many only get to fantasize about.

Down to brass tacks. This frame is a mind-blower. My first time on it, with too-big bars and stem, it was still an epic experience. Stepping on the cranks provides razor-sharp response from the bike, but without the feeling of being beaten around on the pavement. It?s not mushy like a lot of carbon bikes - I?ve never once looked back at my rear wheel thinking I?ve gotten a flat. No waifish chainstays here. From the front end, the massive 1.5? tapered headtube and fork steerer rail corners with nary a hint of flex.

The bike strikes a perfect balance, in my opinion, between all the polar qualities of a superb all-around race bike. The geometry is incredibly well-balanced. It?s stable on descents and when taking a no-handed feed, but not to the point of feeling slow in corners or in the pack. It?s comfortable over the long haul, but not comfortable enough that you lose road feedback or stiffness. The fit and finish is second-to-none?I often find myself gazing at the bass-boat silver paint accents and getting a little lost.

Is it heavy? Hell yes it is. But when building it to 15lbs isn't hard with a nice group and decent wheels, I'd prefer to shed grams elsewhere. The ride more than makes up for the weight savings relative to the paper-thin 800g available, in my never-humble opinion.

Comment on Nate King's review:

I LOVE MY DOGMA !!

Familiarity:
I've put it through the wringer

I have both a Dogma 2 and a Dogma 65.1.

When I first purchased my Dogma 2, I was stunned at how it rode. It combines both comfort and speed. While it is NOT the fastest bike from Zero to 25 mph, it is the easiest bicycle I've ever rode to sustain a speed. The cycling mechanics are incredibly smooth on this bike and the same is true on the Dogma 65.1. Once you achieve your speed, the bike rides itself. I've also discovered that it is the most comfortable bike I've ever ridden in the drops and it is, by far, the most stable bike going down hills at high speeds (i.e. 50 mph feels like 30 mph).

The Dogma 65.1, in contrast to the Dogma 2, is stiffer and is a little faster from Zero to 25 MPH. When I take long endurance rides (over 60 miles), I take the Dogma 2 because it is (slightly) more comfortable. However, I prefer the Dogma 65.1.

As for the finish, I don't think there is any bicycle finished as well as the Pinarello Dogma's. If you want the Italian finish, you need to own a high end Italian bicycle.

Lastly, if up to date engineering is important to you, then you get it with the Dogma 65.1. No other bike has 65 ton carbon or the degree of asymmetrical design. While all this engineering means nothing if it doesn't ride well, the truth is that it rides superbly.

The one downside to the Dogma 65.1 is that if you try it, you will "NEED" to own it.