Thanks for the link. I went ahead and ordered the pro's in xl. When I was out last week with my max stabilicers I was slipping and sliding everywhere on the glare ice. I'm hoping the hillsounds give me better traction. Was able to find the updated version of them. They got rid of the allen head screw for length adjustment for some kind of spring and pin in the hole adjustment. I should be able to get out this next week and see how they do.

Thanks for the link. I went ahead and ordered the pro's in xl. When I was out last week with my max stabilicers I was slipping and sliding everywhere on the glare ice. I'm hoping the hillsounds give me better traction. Was able to find the updated version of them. They got rid of the allen head screw for length adjustment for some kind of spring and pin in the hole adjustment. I should be able to get out this next week and see how they do.

I thought I would post some pics of the hillsound trail pro crampons. I just got them in the mail today. I ordered them from Backcountry Edge online. Great service, ordered them thursday evening and got them monday with usps. First impressions of these things are they are awesome. I had the maxx stabilicers that had the hex head screws attached to a vibram sole. They worked okay last year with some snow on the ice. Last week I was up at antero and 11 mile which were bare ice and they were slipping and sliding. I didn't fall but sure came close a few times. I haven't had a chance to try these on ice yet, but I can't imagine them slipping to much.

Here they are:

The model I got, the 2017/2018 version, had a spring loaded locking pin for length adjustment. No allen head screws to loosen up like the old ones.

The front has a couple of shorter spikes out at an angle which should work great when pushing of with your toes to get the sled moving.

The rear 2 spikes are turned 90 degrees which I hope will prevent your feet slipping out from under you and hitting your head.

They go on very easy. Just slide the strap in to the ratcheting buckle until it just starts and then use the ratchet to snug up the strap.

The ratchet handle has a pull on it that was easy to work even when I tried it with gloves on.

The toe and heel plates have a convex shaped pliable plastic that is supposed to flex and remove any built up snow while walking.

What I liked about them is the adjust ability of the crampons. I was able to get the toe and heel cup to fit my muck arctic pros perfectly. Which makes for the boots to easily step out of them when you undo the straps.

When you are done the slide bar slides forward to collapse the crampons to give them a smaller footprint for storage. You don't have to move the locking pin to collapse them. That way you just slide the front plate forward on the slide bar until it hits the stop and you are at the same length that you had them set at.

These are looking pretty sweeeeet! They're about 1/2 the price of my Kahtoola KTS's. Some what more plastic than the KTS's but plastics these days are pretty damn tough! I really like the built in snow plates/skins. A lot handier than the separate ones for my Kahtoolas.

I have been using the hillsounds now for the last 3 days. Two lakes were bare ice and they have absolute zereo slippage. I can't get them to slip even when I really try. The third lake had a couple of inches of snow and I did a lot of walking and no snow built up so I guess the pads work. I am very happy with the crampons and highly recommend them.

I have been using the hillsounds now for the last 3 days. Two lakes were bare ice and they have absolute zereo slippage. I can't get them to slip even when I really try. The third lake had a couple of inches of snow and I did a lot of walking and no snow built up so I guess the pads work. I am very happy with the crampons and highly recommend them.

What size Arctic Pros are you putting the XL’s on? I have size 10’s and am wondering if the XL’s would be a good fit.

My arctic pro's are size 11. But the xl crampons should fit 10's fine. When I called and talked to hillsound I told them I would be going with either size 10 or 11's in the arctic pros they recommended the XL size.

My arctic pro's are size 11. But the xl crampons should fit 10's fine. When I called and talked to hillsound I told them I would be going with either size 10 or 11's in the arctic pros they recommended the XL size.

They do look pretty nice and by design should be easy on and off which gives them a positive as compared to kahtoola. The plastic is a big detraction in my opinion. Too bad they didn't make those parts out of stainless. Still I think the Kahtoolas are hard to beat and will remain my choice.