Black Future because it's more progressive and the songs are more epic. On Outer Isolation, they went in a more concise direction, albeit not losing their prog/spacey edge, but it wasn't as present like it was on BF. I usually like longer songs a lot too. OI is still fucking awesome and miles ahead of the lame pseudo Exodus wannabees.

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raspberrysoda wrote:

well... nazi = national socialist. since when is socialism right wing?

PS: And I'm no stupid 16 year old. I'm a stupid 17 year old, who also somehwat manages to hide his stupidity.

Black Future. Both are great albums but I feel like some tracks of Outer Isolation lacked the intensity that was consistent on every track on Black Future. But still Tetrastructural Minds, Cosmix Cortex, and Echoless Chamber are great tracks and standouts of Vektor's career.

And also what Metantoine said.

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SashaGallant wrote:

Just because I listen to Autopsy doesn't mean I like to go shitting on graves and fucking corpses.

kingnuuuur wrote:

Incantation for breakfast, fuck yeah. You wake up and then it's Onward to Chocula.

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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:23 pm

I actually give Outer Isolation a very slight edge over the debut, precisely because it's more concise. Black Future is still terrific, but I can't listen to it one one sitting, while I have no such problem with OI. Besides, Outer Isolation houses Tetrastrucutral Minds, which must easily be one of the best thrash songs ever written, it's ending in particular being absolutely apoteosic.

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Napero wrote:

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Hi everyone, I'm looking for fun thrash metal with death metal vocals. Something like Ghoul's Transmission Zero. Some Skeletonwitch sounds very nice as well, but I'm not really looking for blackened thrash like Toxic Holocaust, and I've never been into Municipal Waste all that much. Just fun thrash metal with death metal vocals. So what do you think? Any ideas?

Hi everyone, I'm looking for fun thrash metal with death metal vocals. Something like Ghoul's Transmission Zero. Some Skeletonwitch sounds very nice as well, but I'm not really looking for blackened thrash like Toxic Holocaust, and I've never been into Municipal Waste all that much. Just fun thrash metal with death metal vocals. So what do you think? Any ideas?

I'm still kind of undecided on much about Vektor. I like them but I don't get strong urges to listen to them that often. Also can't decide which album I like more although the second one hasn't been out that long so it's probably not wise for me to say anything definite about it just yet. However I agree with Metantoine in that they are pretty much the only modern thrash band worth writing home about. I think that as a HUUUUUGE techno-thrash nut I might be restraining myself from caring too much about the band right now because of some fans and bloggers and reviewers talking about them like technical and progressive elements in thrash metal were something totally unheard of before.

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I'd love to blast a bit of Voivod and make a better-looking gun turret to glue on the tortoise's shell to make it look like Killing Technology, but the wife won't let me. I think I'll get an Emperor penguin instead.

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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:24 am

Technical and progressive elements have been in thrash almost since it's inception, yes, but when it comes to the new generation, bands who play that particular brand of the style are almost nonexistent, hence the highlightning of Vektor in that particular regard (that, and the fact that they're badass).

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Napero wrote:

(...) Bolt Thrower is to the soul what coffee is to the earthly shell.

Technical and progressive elements have been in thrash almost since it's inception, yes, but when it comes to the new generation, bands who play that particular brand of the style are almost nonexistent, hence the highlightning of Vektor in that particular regard (that, and the fact that they're badass).

I think that what The_Erlking meant is that newer thrash fans aren't aware of the whole reality and choose to believe that Vektor are unique beyond the revival aspect of their music. Which they aren't actually.

I can't comment fully on their quality because I've never listened that much to them, probably due to the above factor. It's odd really but how many of us have averted listening to certain new bands which are idolized beyond reason?! I'll tackle them eventually but that will happen when I feel the need for a prog/tech thrash binge again, which could be any time from tomorrow to a year from now.

Exactly. And I wholly understand that this is my own problem and I might eventually get over it. Sometimes it's better to take your own time with music even if it means ignoring it for silly reasons for some time but hey as a human being could I even approach new things in a purely objective manner?

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Napero wrote:

I'd love to blast a bit of Voivod and make a better-looking gun turret to glue on the tortoise's shell to make it look like Killing Technology, but the wife won't let me. I think I'll get an Emperor penguin instead.

If any of you guys like Thrash Metal with a slight Technical, Experimental and Progressive edge.. Feel free to check out Sanity Obscure (SG)'s new album Subterranean Constellation which is available digitally on Bandcamp here : http://sanityobscuresg.bandcamp.com/

I would say that the style done by Sanity Obscure (SG) could be for fans of bands like Coroner, Vektor, Voivod and more

TheIbexMoon666 wrote:

kurtangler wrote:

Sanity Obscure (SG) has just released the album "Subterranean Constellation" for digital download on Bandcamp. If you like the music, you can purchase individual tracks ($1.20 USD) or the full album ($8.00) from the Bandcamp page here : http://sanityobscuresg.bandcamp.com/

This band and album is said to be for fans of Voivod, Nocturnus, Pestilence, Anacrusis, Atheist, Death and many more. If you like a blend of Technical Thrash Metal with experimental touches, moods of space and sheer intensity, you might like this release.

TheIbexMoon666 wrote:

Just checked these guys out. I ended up downloading the album for 8 bucks. All though I much rather get my hands on a physical copy. Sanity Obscure definitely have a Pestilence vibe to their riffs. I like it a lot. Thanks for sharing.

You already advertised the band in the last fricken page! Use this: viewforum.php?f=9

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Napero wrote:

I'd love to blast a bit of Voivod and make a better-looking gun turret to glue on the tortoise's shell to make it look like Killing Technology, but the wife won't let me. I think I'll get an Emperor penguin instead.

I'd love to blast a bit of Voivod and make a better-looking gun turret to glue on the tortoise's shell to make it look like Killing Technology, but the wife won't let me. I think I'll get an Emperor penguin instead.

Metallica discussions might have been done to death but after listen to ...And Justice for All again I'd say it's really not bad. Cut off the titled track, ''Eye of the Beholder'' and ''To Live is to Die'' and you've got a solid album.

What? Noooo! The title track and Eye of the Beholder are among my favourites on it. It's the B-side of the album that is lacking in some respect. Still probably my second favourite Metallica album right after Ride the Lightning.

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Napero wrote:

I'd love to blast a bit of Voivod and make a better-looking gun turret to glue on the tortoise's shell to make it look like Killing Technology, but the wife won't let me. I think I'll get an Emperor penguin instead.

And I might be in the minority here, but I think Metallica's debut is the best they've ever done. Just fun, raw energetic thrash. The thrash metal songs on Ride... are good, sure, but the rest really doesn't do much for me honesty.

Slayer's Hell Awaits is another album I've been listening to a lot lately. It's probably my favourite. While Show No Mercy was straightfoward catchy NWOBHM influenced thrash metal this one focuses more on atmosphere and I think they really nailed it here. Every track is a classic on this one.

I'm rather new to the trash genre, yet I happen to really like Sepultura's Schizophrenia and Arise; furthermore I enjoy Metallica's Kill 'Em All.I'm aware of bands like Kreator but they never really struck my nerve.

I'm rather new to the trash genre, yet I happen to really like Sepultura's Schizophrenia and Arise; furthermore I enjoy Metallica's Kill 'Em All.I'm aware of bands like Kreator but they never really struck my nerve.

Any recommendations based upon this?

Many of these may be obvious, but I'll throw them out there anyway, based on the info you've given so far:

I'm rather new to the trash genre, yet I happen to really like Sepultura's Schizophrenia and Arise; furthermore I enjoy Metallica's Kill 'Em All.I'm aware of bands like Kreator but they never really struck my nerve.

Hey, how're you doing? I'm looking for blackened thrash with lots of energy and fucking incredible riffs. You know, Toxic Holocaust, Nocturnal Graves, that kind of stuff. I'd love a Satan's Cross kind of production. You know, some powerful shit. So, you know what I'm talking about, any ideas?

You definately should check out Necromantheon's "Rise, Vulcan Spectre", an awsome slab of brutality! Chile's Necroripper (what is it with these bands and Necro lol) have just released their debut album, I sort of get an old Sepultura vibe from it though I need to give it a more in-depth listen.

Two bands that seemed to have short but potent bouts of popularity here that could fit that style are Ketzer and Hellcannon. I personally find them both a tad overrated but they're both good regardless.

Hellcannon is great and sounds like a bit more brutal and less Exploited sounding Toxic Holocaust though there are plenty of moments where the riffs scream Toxic Holocaust. They also copied their logo who copied Sarcofago. Just tell me the riff at 1:08 doesn't scream Toxic Holocaust!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGJVMH1UrOY

Cruel Force's debut is excellent and has some more traditional metal moments in there that keep the riffs really upbeat and catchy. Leather and Metal is a perfect example.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x9_OWSOj44

Witchhaven is one of the better black/thrash bands around and reminds me of an early Destruction (stuff like Sentence of Death). Skinned Alive is a great song though you may want to avoid watching the video as it is just clips of animal cruelty in a way of promoting how it needs to stop.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BOyCxU_9AM

The first album of Lightning Swords of Death is good. I picked up their second album and was very disappointed. May be a little to close to Scandinavian black metal for you though.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjW9rS7ylVY

So I'm looking for thrash that has a very evident NWOBHM influence but a pinch of death would be appreciated as well, early Sadus and Possessed have several songs between them that are exactly what I'm looking for, also Slayer's first two are pretty close.

So I'm looking for thrash that has a very evident NWOBHM influence but a pinch of death would be appreciated as well, early Sadus and Possessed have several songs between them that are exactly what I'm looking for, also Slayer's first two are pretty close.