I think it's the same in a sports with more than one form.I'm also an archer and the same thing happens between recurve, compound and bare bow. I won't include long bowers as they're just odd.

I nod or speak to most when out regardless of what they're on.Hourse riders seem to be the friendliest these days and I seem to remember the MBUK letters page full of stories of hatred between the two.

Classic car drivers tend to wave at each other though mini drivers tend only to wave at other minis. I did the london to brighton mini run in a kit car in 2003 and coming the other way were loads of fiat 500's out for a drive. They all beeped and waved and of all the cars I could see I was the only one to wave back

dbmtb, respect Sir. Just bluff it and pretend you know what you are doing and come across as some uber Europa CX specialist out for some hard core training with the lads on fatg tyres

BTW: A high end hybrid with 700c and flat bars is another thing roadies just seem not to get and seriously under estimate it's dual capability; at least in Sweden. I've had more than one occassion of "joining" a group of roadies and got a lot shit for doing my turn at the front. I took a sick pleaseure when they got shelled out of the back on next the time climb while they are farting with their compact chain rings.

I'm a roady underneth and I hate the snobbery of 700c mega serious amatures who so love the "club" and are not tolerant to any other two wheelers. I hate to say it, but sometime it's a great day to get even.

As above, it's the commuters that are the twats in Manchester. Deliberately riding in the middle of the lane to block everyone, going straight through red lights etc.

Did anyone hear about the bus driver that got jailed for deliberately swerving at a cyclist? If you watch the video it's obvious that something has been going on before the start of the video between the cyclist and the bus driver. The cyclist can be seen riding in the middle of the lane to hinder the bus driver overtaking, when the bus does over take, the cyclist speeds up and swerves out into the next lane to try and stop him. The bus driver see's red and swerves at him, knocking him off and putting him in hospital. The cyclist spent some time in hospital with broken bones and the bus driver got 16(?) months in prison.

Even finding your spouse in bed with someone these days does not pass as sufficient provocation to take a life.

As a day to day professional driver, that bus driver was being paid to deal with other road users, reasonable or not.

He was obviously ready to use his vehicle to kill someone.

Could have as easily been a car full of children or nuns that gave him the impetus to kill.

The point is that it appears the cyclist deliberately wound up the bus driver. Which was a bit silly. if it had been me he was swerving into another lane to block I would have been so angry that I would drive behind him absolutely normally and safely and completely ignore them. That's the only way to deal with those types who like to wind you up trying to get you to react.

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In the real world it probably won't work, in the theoretical world it is not impossible.

This post isn't directed at anyone in particular, so don't anyone get offended, but I really must say..... WTF is the point in getting so stressed out that a whole bunch of ones time is wasted on an internet chat-room, discussing, slagging off, and bitching about a particular type of cyclist, based purely on the type of bike and style of riding that they happen to do, and particularly single all (most) individuals engaged within that activity as being "different" to you, or more specifically "us"?

All it does is further deepen your perceived division between the different cycling disciplines, making the problem worse for yourself, and re-inforcing your views upon others.....

Seriously, there are better things in the world to worry about that getting pissed because someone dared to not say hello to you

Do we get pissed when someone walking on the street doesnt say hello or wave? Or when other bus users ignore us? No. SO why should we feel compelled to acknowledge other cyclists?

Yes its nice when it does happen, but there is no compulsion or unwritten code requiring us to do so, no matter what type of tyre we use.... so lets just get over it, and enjoy ourselves... there's bigger fish to fry

Roadies appear to spend a lot of time and money having their wheels trued.
I think they are jealous we can batter through potholes and the like and suffer no damage Personally i always nod or smile at a fellow bikee if they dont want to smile/wave/nod/etc no biggie,though that does make me feel somewhat smug.Dont know why just does Let us not forget they bore the brunt and still do for every lycra joke ever written.
TBH its that their sport is all about fitness and times and i think it makes them too serious,they are just grumpy

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Do we get pissed when someone walking on the street doesnt say hello or wave? Or when other bus users ignore us? No. SO why should we feel compelled to acknowledge other cyclists?

Special club,joint interest,its was separates us from the general populous.
Take sailing.We always acknowledge other sailors and boaters we pass doing our thing.
Is that so hard to understand.

I think it's also worth remembering that the road is, in fairness, what roadies are riding on... if that makes sense. So if you see a serious roadie out and about they're probably busy pushing - whereas if I'm on the road on an MTB its because I'm between hills or out on a jolly. If I'm out on the dirt and battering down a hill then I'm usually less inclined to wave - but purely because I'm concentrating and 8 or 9 times out of 10 I do smile or say hello. I suppose if you happened to spot me on the time I didn't, you'd be cursing lycra clad Zaskar riders. (And who doesn't? )

The only thing that actually gets my goat, and I appreciate that this is a little O/T, is that most road riders I've talked to (and I realise that's only a tiny, tiny fraction) never seem to take MTB seriously and don't actually appreciate that when you are on fat tyres and uneven, slippy, cruddy surfaces it's very difficult to push massive chain rings and keep your cadence up - but that doesn't mean that it's easy or require's zero fitness. Sorry - slight detour there.

In fact, I was out on my road bike this morning, all lycra'd up, getting in an early 45mile training run for a sportive I've entered

What were you wearing and riding?

Lycra.Road bike.*waves

I just wondered if you were Cav'd up or Lance'd there does seem to be a bit of sneering going on.

Fortunately the brotherhood of mountain biking is alive and kicking....Oh unless you read MBUK...or have disc brakes...or suspension...or go to trail centres.....or ride a modern bike....hold on a minute

Oh and to even up the balance, already a few times this year I've met other roadies had a blether and shared a wheel for a bit. This never happens with mountain bikers.

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