i had a lower ordered from a company i have been tradeing with for some time. and they have been very reliable. BUT my back ordered lower that was supposed to arrive in feb is now a NO ETA item. when i called them on the phone they said --with any luck MAYBE Christmas 09!!

i ordered a cav arms polymer lower that was in stock--now the bad thing is all they had was green or tan--no black!!! got a decent price on it by current standards. not great because these things sold for $90 just last year!!! i suppose i could have bought one of the high end lowers like a RRA for $170 or the saber --but the price just chaps my hide! gosh-darn i was buying mega's for $80 not that long ago!! now days any lower is going to run AT LEAST $120+ shipping IF you can find one!!

but the lower is a small problem. i have a bolt and a barrel that has been back ordered -- i am hoping one MORE month on them--but who knows these days???

i had a lower ordered from a company i have been tradeing with for some time. and they have been very reliable. BUT my back ordered lower that was supposed to arrive in feb is now a NO ETA item. when i called them on the phone they said --with any luck MAYBE Christmas 09!!

i ordered a cav arms polymer lower that was in stock--now the bad thing is all they had was green or tan--no black!!! got a decent price on it by current standards. not great because these things sold for $90 just last year!!! i suppose i could have bought one of the high end lowers like a RRA for $170 or the saber --but the price just chaps my hide! gosh-darn i was buying mega's for $80 not that long ago!! now days any lower is going to run AT LEAST $120+ shipping IF you can find one!!

but the lower is a small problem. i have a bolt and a barrel that has been back ordered -- i am hoping one MORE month on them--but who knows these days???

I found a place that is milling/shipping them for $135, but they are new and untested. So we will see when I get them if they are any good.

I found a place that is milling/shipping them for $135, but they are new and untested. So we will see when I get them if they are any good.

Mark

the situation we got brewing with the AR-parts is very much like what we had with the surplus AKM's a few years back. heck i bought 5 GP-75 kits from copes for $69 a pop. and they were like new except for the de-mill cuts. now days you don't even want to ask the price!!

i am a bit leery on some of the "new" AR-15 lower makers that sort of "popped-up from the woodwork" since the great "obama panic of 08-09." they could be great--but they could very well suck. in my experience when things fetch an abnormal high price--at the same time quality control goes out the window. good luck though!!!

i am going to try the fantastic/plastic lower from cav-arms/saber/armilite.--LOL i would much rather have a LMT/CMT/Bushmaster-ect
but i hate the idea of waiting a year. i'll machine my own from a forging before i'll pay $177-$200+ smackers for a stripped lower--this is just nutz!!!

the plastic lower has an advantage in that i has a built in sock so a few $$ are saved. the down side is your stuck with the A1-stock/pg so if you don't like it --tough cookies. there are some advantages if you want a OD or tan rifle. i am not too concerned about how durable the nylon-66 is as i have a m-17s, a glock. an XD, and a nylon-66 22 from the early 70's i have had 0 problems with them. so far.

I've had everybody delay, or outright dump orders on me. Even Midway is crushed right now, when it comes to Black Rifle parts. Brownells too. I had a barrel on back order at Midway for months, then they finally canceled on me. I'm glad I stocked up on extra bolt carrier groups, and other parts.

the parts from model1 that i got yesterday were really nice.... thru them in a Blackthorne upper and DPMS lower & cproducts mags, then went out and dumped over a hundred rounds thru with not one issue.

nice to know that some time you can mix and match and still get a good toy.

i have some shipments coming in this week. i ordered some small parts from M&A and some small parts from DSG to go with the cav-arms lower that i just got from DSG. lucky me i had most of the parts for a LPK out in mu junk box.

not everything is on back order. it seems just certain things are OOS.

the parts from model1 that i got yesterday were really nice.... thru them in a Blackthorne upper and DPMS lower & cproducts mags, then went out and dumped over a hundred rounds thru with not one issue.

nice to know that some time you can mix and match and still get a good toy.

sdk

I was extremely pleased with what I got as well. I won't be able to play with my model 1 parts until I pick up my lowers. I purchased a 7.5" upper from them, and my pistol lowers have to wait 30 days each.