Nobody runs a chain guard on a roadrace or dirt bike. They just get in the way, and hinder access to the chain for maintenance.

While I like a lot of stuff about the Motus, especially the engine, tubeless tires, and centerstand, It does not look like they are ever going to get off the ground. Look at what Polaris did with Indian. Not the bike for me, but they designed and built a completely new bike from the ground up, including new frame and engine, and have it for sale, all in less than 3 years after buying the name. Even if Motus makes it initially, it is likely to be a repeat of E-H, and at any rate, it costs way more than I can afford, so I am leaving this thread. I hope they do make it, but I am not going to be one of their customers. I'll read the reviews when and if they make it to the magazines.

While I like a lot of stuff about the Motus, especially the engine, tubeless tires, and centerstand, It does not look like they are ever going to get off the ground. Look at what Polaris did with Indian. Not the bike for me, but they designed and built a completely new bike from the ground up, including new frame and engine, and have it for sale, all in less than 3 years.....

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Even with those three tech advancements, Motus has done the same thing as Indian. Ground up frame, engine, total bike in under 3 years. Having bikes ready to fill orders this fall.

This is NOTHING like the 110 million cash grab EH was other than the 2 wheels. It would be great if people understood exactly what happened there and stop comparing every upstart with them.

Nobody runs a chain guard on a roadrace or dirt bike. They just get in the way, and hinder access to the chain for maintenance.

While I like a lot of stuff about the Motus, especially the engine, tubeless tires, and centerstand, It does not look like they are ever going to get off the ground. Look at what Polaris did with Indian. Not the bike for me, but they designed and built a completely new bike from the ground up, including new frame and engine, and have it for sale, all in less than 3 years after buying the name. Even if Motus makes it initially, it is likely to be a repeat of E-H, and at any rate, it costs way more than I can afford, so I am leaving this thread. I hope they do make it, but I am not going to be one of their customers. I'll read the reviews when and if they make it to the magazines.

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Jerry, as always you add 1 + 1 and come up with 3!

Comparing what Polaris has done with Indiain (great job BTW) with what Motus is doing is not a fair comparison as Polaris already has a manufcaturing facility and experience building ATV's and motorcycles (Victory). Yes it is remarkable that Polaris has brought to market Indian in 3 years. Motus is much smaller and is a ground up new company building a brand new bike. Cut them some slack and give them some credit for what they are doing! We will see Motus on the road soon. They will be impressive. However like you, I won't be able to afford one but unlike you, I will certainly lust after one.

From Motus on Facebook:
"286 miles on a single 5.5 gallon tank! The American V4 exceeds expectations again as the benchmark was 250 miles/tank. The fellas behaved (with a few notable exceptions) and stuck to the pre-determined test of all interstate, all at/below the posted speed limit. 68mph/2900 rpm average. Lake Ponchatrain, LA to Cottondale, AL without stopping....92-94 deg. ambient. One test rider noted- "Glad to know the interstate range now, but next time can I just kick in $3.69 and buy the extra gallon so I can get back a LOT quicker?" At 70mph, the MST spin 3000rpm and has over 100 ft lbs on tap.....there aren't many sportbikes that can do that AND be comfortable for over 4 hrs straight. Next goal: 300 miles/tank."

"We don't think you'll be disappointed with the twist of the American
V4....almost 95 ft lbs to the ground...at 2600 rpm...then up from there. In
base MST tune."

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Two hundred and eighty six miles on a 23 litre tank, or about 460km, which works out to 5 litres per 100 km or roughly 47mpg. Not bad from a 1650cc four.

I was concerned they might drop the ball on this after dumping the direct injection but no, they're right up there.

I think I'd let other people be the first model guinea pigs. Not that they're not journalists first , but I'd like to see a magazine test too.

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I understand that point of view - however, I'd like to offer a counterpoint. Lets say Motus is not successful as a company - but the bikes are great. Awesome reliability, great riding bikes. Plus, it's an awesome design sketch, and the purpose is excellent......

I kinda wanna buy one right away just in case. With proper care, the bike might last me the rest of my life. I'd hate to miss out on these beauties.

I understand that point of view - however, I'd like to offer a counterpoint. Lets say Motus is not successful as a company - but the bikes are great. Awesome reliability, great riding bikes. Plus, it's an awesome design sketch, and the purpose is excellent......

I kinda wanna buy one right away just in case. With proper care, the bike might last me the rest of my life. I'd hate to miss out on these beauties.

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If the company fails , you're stuck without part availability. If the bikes a POS , you're stuck with a POS. It's not going to be a collector's item , just an oddity.

If the company fails , you're stuck without part availability. If the bikes a POS , you're stuck with a POS. It's not going to be a collector's item , just an oddity.

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Well....it's a +150 HP sport tourer, made in America....how bad can it really be?

Besides, I've been riding BMW's for the last 15 years or so....you wanna know about spending a shit ton more money than something is worth and still getting stuck with out parts availability and dealing with a POS??

I have a feeling these bikes are going to be awesome - and they're going to be really unique and usable.... I'm very intrigued.

I understand that point of view - however, I'd like to offer a counterpoint. Lets say Motus is not successful as a company - but the bikes are great. Awesome reliability, great riding bikes. Plus, it's an awesome design sketch, and the purpose is excellent......

I kinda wanna buy one right away just in case. With proper care, the bike might last me the rest of my life. I'd hate to miss out on these beauties.

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You could be on to something........kinda like the Munch Mammut scenario