How generic is the term 'Sinko Tiros/Senkotiros'?

If "Five Strikes" were translated literally to Spanish, the term would be "Cinco Ataques" (five attacks).

The word tirar means "to throw". While it is possible for the noun form, tiro, to mean a throw, the noun most commonly means a shot. And, just like English, the term is most often associated with serious or fatal injuries.

So, Cinco Tiros = Five Shots. Think about that the next time you're hitting the tire.

When Guro Mike Williams has talked about training in the Philippines, he often spoke about how rigorous and hard core the masters are with the basics. As he put it, "They can kill you with just a single #1".

The word tirar means "to throw". While it is possible for the noun form, tiro, to mean a throw, the noun most commonly means a shot. And, just like English, the term is most often associated with serious or fatal injuries.

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Actually GM Pallen made this point when he was teaching a seminar at my school. I'd have to dig out the video to see what he said exactly, but the gist of it was that the strikes were points of impact or "shots".

i used to think that largo mano was as simple as hitting people on the hand or arm, but it's hard to base a whole system around that. in the cinco teros that i study (from laguna, originally from pampanga), we learn ways of engaging at that range, and i've never had a problem finding a fight in that range. it's hard to describe, but when i hear that there's no fight in largo if you don't stick your hand out, it's like hearing that there's no stickfight in corto because i'll just wrestle you.

tim

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that's cus you know the magic footwork Tim...we both know that cinco teros all care about one range, and that range is just being "close enough" so you can cut down your oponent quickly.

i used to think that largo mano was as simple as hitting people on the hand or arm, but it's hard to base a whole system around that. in the cinco teros that i study (from laguna, originally from pampanga), we learn ways of engaging at that range, and i've never had a problem finding a fight in that range. it's hard to describe, but when i hear that there's no fight in largo if you don't stick your hand out, it's like hearing that there's no stickfight in corto because i'll just wrestle you.

tim

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Our Grandmaster won't tell you that there's no fight in largo, but he will tell you that you don't have to fight at that range, because you can get away. He made an illustration just this weekend at a seminar G Brock hosted. He did a little freestyle twirling and as he did, he asked, "are you going to walk up to somebody doing this?" He teaches us to only fight if we're backed into a corner or if there's no other way to get away. We don't ignore largo, though. GM Pallen teaches us how to engage at that range in case we need to but we usually end up in medio or corto.

Hi guys, first time poster here, but long time student of the Pallen family.

In terms of the name Senkotiros, it differs from the other "Cino Teros" in the teachings, concepts, and methodologies. Senkotiros goes far beyond the primary 5 angles of attack, in that there is a very high degree of sensitivity training and practical response. Additionally, Senkotiros is primarily a close range style.

With regards to the largo mano issue being discussed by Brock and Tim, yes, Senkotiros does train Largo Mano, along with Medio and Corto. In fact, when GM Pallen first taught me my first lesson in encircling an opponent, he taught me Largo as the initial training step. If we did not address largo mano, our Senkotiros system would not be as complete, hahaha!

Please note however, that our system focuses a lot on close range self-defense. The theory is that in a self-defense situation, say in an urban setting, one has the potential to diffuse the situation if two people are standing relatively far away (modified example of largo mano). At the medio range, one still has a choice to walk away or fight. However, at close range (corto), the threat level is much higher, thus our emphasis on close range training.

Tim, I hope I have provided some insight to your issue that you and Brock were talking about. A good eskrimador can engage an opponent at any range, especially largo. The Bahala Na guys in Stockton are a good example of that.

Going back to "Senkotiros" itself and "Cinco Teros," our system teaches students to realize the stick or knife as a training tool to develop good unarmed self-defense and proficient hands.

Again, I hope I've helped to illuminate some questions. Take care guys.

Senkotiros itself is specific to GM Pallen. Other than being based off of 5 angles, there isn't much similarity. The few other Cinco Tiros systems I've seen are primarily Largo mano, but Senkotiros doesn't really deal with Largo in that if you're that far away, you're not really in danger of being hit. The 5 angles that we use are also different from what the other styles I've seen use.

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Hi, Could you please name some other Arnis style that is based on Five angles of attack?