1. 9/11 was conducted by the CIA2. Corporate conservative media conspired to destroy OWS3. Corporate Liberal media conspired to destroy the Tea Party4. That church in Waco was a peaceloving church that didnt abuse children. Clinton just wanted their guns so he killed all of them.5. Tim McVeigh was still a soldier in the US Army when he detonated da bomb6. CHEMTRAILS are causing symptoms of global warming designed to take our freedoms away7. THEY ARE COMIN FOR YER GUNS!8. Israel and Iran are actually not enemies; they are reading a script given to them by Bilderberger

• "The laws in this city are clearly racist. All laws are racist. The law of gravity is racist."

• "I am clearly more popular than Reagan. I am in my third term. Where's Reagan? Gone after two! Defeated by George Bush and Michael Dukakis no less."

• "The brave men who died in Vietnam, more than 100% of which were black, were the ultimate sacrifice."

• "There are two kinds of truth. There are real truths, and there are made up truths."

• "I am a great mayor; I am an upstanding Christian man; I am an intelligent man; I am a deeply educated man; I am a humble man."

• "Outside of the killings, DC has one of the lowest crime rates in the country."

• "What right does Congress have to go around making laws just because they deem it necessary?"

• "I am making this trip to Africa because Washington is an international city, just like Tokyo, Nigeria or Israel. As mayor, I am an international symbol. Can you deny that to Africa?"

Dost thou benotest Google?

Running Snopes is the Internet equivalent of the story of Sisyphus. You do all this work to show that something like some chain email or serial posting on Facebook is bullshiat, but the reaction you get from the people who spread it is always "SNOPES IS A LIB SITE" and then another round of "FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:FW" emails.

jake_lex:cman: Sybarite: A few select quotes from Mr. Barry, all real;

• "The laws in this city are clearly racist. All laws are racist. The law of gravity is racist."

• "I am clearly more popular than Reagan. I am in my third term. Where's Reagan? Gone after two! Defeated by George Bush and Michael Dukakis no less."

• "The brave men who died in Vietnam, more than 100% of which were black, were the ultimate sacrifice."

• "There are two kinds of truth. There are real truths, and there are made up truths."

• "I am a great mayor; I am an upstanding Christian man; I am an intelligent man; I am a deeply educated man; I am a humble man."

• "Outside of the killings, DC has one of the lowest crime rates in the country."

• "What right does Congress have to go around making laws just because they deem it necessary?"

• "I am making this trip to Africa because Washington is an international city, just like Tokyo, Nigeria or Israel. As mayor, I am an international symbol. Can you deny that to Africa?"

Dost thou benotest Google?

Running Snopes is the Internet equivalent of the story of Sisyphus. You do all this work to show that something like some chain email or serial posting on Facebook is bullshiat, but the reaction you get from the people who spread it is always "SNOPES IS A LIB SITE" and then another round of "FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:FW" emails.

If I looked hard enough I could possibly cherry pick snopes apart to make it look like they are more conservative than GW

jake_lex:cman: Sybarite: A few select quotes from Mr. Barry, all real;

• "The laws in this city are clearly racist. All laws are racist. The law of gravity is racist."

• "I am clearly more popular than Reagan. I am in my third term. Where's Reagan? Gone after two! Defeated by George Bush and Michael Dukakis no less."

• "The brave men who died in Vietnam, more than 100% of which were black, were the ultimate sacrifice."

• "There are two kinds of truth. There are real truths, and there are made up truths."

• "I am a great mayor; I am an upstanding Christian man; I am an intelligent man; I am a deeply educated man; I am a humble man."

• "Outside of the killings, DC has one of the lowest crime rates in the country."

• "What right does Congress have to go around making laws just because they deem it necessary?"

• "I am making this trip to Africa because Washington is an international city, just like Tokyo, Nigeria or Israel. As mayor, I am an international symbol. Can you deny that to Africa?"

Dost thou benotest Google?

Running Snopes is the Internet equivalent of the story of Sisyphus. You do all this work to show that something like some chain email or serial posting on Facebook is bullshiat, but the reaction you get from the people who spread it is always "SNOPES IS A LIB SITE" and then another round of "FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:FW" emails.

1. 9/11 was conducted by the CIA2. Corporate conservative media conspired to destroy OWS3. Corporate Liberal media conspired to destroy the Tea Party4. That church in Waco was a peaceloving church that didnt abuse children. Clinton just wanted their guns so he killed all of them.5. Tim McVeigh was still a soldier in the US Army when he detonated da bomb6. CHEMTRAILS are causing symptoms of global warming designed to take our freedoms away7. THEY ARE COMIN FOR YER GUNS!8. Israel and Iran are actually not enemies; they are reading a script given to them by Bilderberger

Now I got my number 9 for favorite conspiracy theories ever

The media didn't conspire against OWS, because there was nothing the least bit secret or conspiratorial about their open contempt for the protesters and their aims. And, while Israel and Iran certainly have their differences, they certainly have been known to work with each other when their interests match up. Israel's role in the Iran/Contra matter is a matter of public record.

BMulligan:The media didn't conspire against OWS, because there was nothing the least bit secret or conspiratorial about their open contempt for the protesters and their aims. And, while Israel and Iran certainly have their differences, they certainly have been known to work with each other when their interests match up. Israel's role in the Iran/Contra matter is a matter of public record.

I thought the media was ignoring OWS while lavishing attention on the tea parties? You guys need to get your whining memos straight

Similarly, a guy killed a girl recently in our city. He stabbed her 80 times, say the police. He and his family are loudly telling everyone, "it was self-defense and he's being set up because he's black, they never would have charged him if he were white."

Similarly, a guy killed a girl recently in our city. He stabbed her 80 times, say the police. He and his family are loudly telling everyone, "it was self-defense and he's being set up because he's black, they never would have charged him if he were white."

Don't worry - right after the Democrats get rid of that pesky Second Amendment, the First is certainly the next in line.

Not a constitutional scholar, but I don't think freedom to rape 10 year old girls is in the First Amendment.

Honest question: if that joke was applied to Obama from the right, would it be considered racist due to stereotypes?

Based on this, I don't think you even understand what the joke is. But, no, if you used this Gilbert Gottfried riff to assert that Obama was using media insinuations to advance false and libellous accusations without ever coming right out and saying them in a way explicit enough to induce culpability, no, it would not be racist.

liam76:El Pachuco: He will never take responsibility for his own actions.

Similarly, a guy killed a girl recently in our city. He stabbed her 80 times, say the police. He and his family are loudly telling everyone, "it was self-defense and he's being set up because he's black, they never would have charged him if he were white."

Got a link?

This is the incident, as seen on a local blog site. The guy's family had posted in the comments section on the bottom that it was self-defense, but they appear to have been removed, no doubt at the advice of an attorney.

Don't worry - right after the Democrats get rid of that pesky Second Amendment, the First is certainly the next in line.

Not a constitutional scholar, but I don't think freedom to rape 10 year old girls is in the First Amendment.

Honest question: if that joke was applied to Obama from the right, would it be considered racist due to stereotypes?

Based on this, I don't think you even understand what the joke is. But, no, if you used this Gilbert Gottfried riff to assert that Obama was using media insinuations to advance false and libellous accusations without ever coming right out and saying them in a way explicit enough to induce culpability, no, it would not be racist.

I was talking about the stereotypes that black men rape women a lot more than other races

coeyagi:Show your work - show me how the Dems have anything lined up that would remove the 2nd amendment.

Have you been in a box for the last month?

We have some calling the Second Amendment "archaic" and saying we should just ignore it (Matthew Modine).

Chicago Alderman Joe Moreno admitted - proudly - "You say that why are we going to infringe on the second amendment? Well, we already do."

TV host Joe Scarborough was calling for bans on weapons - and actions against Hollywood types who make movies that glorify violence (First AND Second Amendments all in one go).

Heck - look at all of the idiots here who still think they can pretend that "the militia" is the National Guard, as an excuse to bypass the Second Amendment. Any time you get a gun control thread, those idiots pop up every time...

cirby:coeyagi:Show your work - show me how the Dems have anything lined up that would remove the 2nd amendment.

Have you been in a box for the last month?

We have some calling the Second Amendment "archaic" and saying we should just ignore it (Matthew Modine).

Chicago Alderman Joe Moreno admitted - proudly - "You say that why are we going to infringe on the second amendment? Well, we already do."

TV host Joe Scarborough was calling for bans on weapons - and actions against Hollywood types who make movies that glorify violence (First AND Second Amendments all in one go).

Heck - look at all of the idiots here who still think they can pretend that "the militia" is the National Guard, as an excuse to bypass the Second Amendment. Any time you get a gun control thread, those idiots pop up every time...

You listed a few Dems, most of which did not call for overturning the 2nd. Have your reading skills been in a box for life? You should try opening that box, bro, because there isn't anyone proposing legislation or constitutional amendments to ban the 2nd.

1. 9/11 was conducted by the CIA2. Corporate conservative media conspired to destroy OWS3. Corporate Liberal media conspired to destroy the Tea Party4. That church in Waco was a peaceloving church that didnt abuse children. Clinton just wanted their guns so he killed all of them.5. Tim McVeigh was still a soldier in the US Army when he detonated da bomb6. CHEMTRAILS are causing symptoms of global warming designed to take our freedoms away7. THEY ARE COMIN FOR YER GUNS!8. Israel and Iran are actually not enemies; they are reading a script given to them by Bilderberger

Now I got my number 9 for favorite conspiracy theories ever

The media didn't conspire against OWS, because there was nothing the least bit secret or conspiratorial about their open contempt for the protesters and their aims. And, while Israel and Iran certainly have their differences, they certainly have been known to work with each other when their interests match up. Israel's role in the Iran/Contra matter is a matter of public record.

How did I miss this?

1. News media is out to make money. They put on what people want to see. We would rather be scared shiatless about anarchists over talking about a boring tariff. As for them showing "open contempt", can you give me links to articles where malice was the sole factor?

2. Israel wouldn't risk pissing us off. We are their most important ally. Why they did do it, Israel certainly did not like it, and neither did Iran. If there was no war between Iran and Iraq they would have never had that deal. Iran needed weapons. They were severely outgunned in everything. When your back is against the wall you do things you wouldn't normally do.

1. 9/11 was conducted by the CIA2. Corporate conservative media conspired to destroy OWS3. Corporate Liberal media conspired to destroy the Tea Party4. That church in Waco was a peaceloving church that didnt abuse children. Clinton just wanted their guns so he killed all of them.5. Tim McVeigh was still a soldier in the US Army when he detonated da bomb6. CHEMTRAILS are causing symptoms of global warming designed to take our freedoms away7. THEY ARE COMIN FOR YER GUNS!8. Israel and Iran are actually not enemies; they are reading a script given to them by Bilderberger

Now I got my number 9 for favorite conspiracy theories ever

The media didn't conspire against OWS, because there was nothing the least bit secret or conspiratorial about their open contempt for the protesters and their aims. And, while Israel and Iran certainly have their differences, they certainly have been known to work with each other when their interests match up. Israel's role in the Iran/Contra matter is a matter of public record.

How did I miss this?

1. News media is out to make money. They put on what people want to see. We would rather be scared shiatless about anarchists over talking about a boring tariff. As for them showing "open contempt", can you give me links to articles where malice was the sole factor?

2. Israel wouldn't risk pissing us off. We are their most important ally. While they did do it, Israel certainly did not like it, and neither did Iran. If there was no war between Iran and Iraq they would have never had that deal. Iran needed weapons. They were severely outgunned in everything. When your back is against the wall you do things you wouldn't normally do.

coeyagi:cirby: coeyagi:Show your work - show me how the Dems have anything lined up that would remove the 2nd amendment.

Have you been in a box for the last month?

We have some calling the Second Amendment "archaic" and saying we should just ignore it (Matthew Modine).

Chicago Alderman Joe Moreno admitted - proudly - "You say that why are we going to infringe on the second amendment? Well, we already do."

TV host Joe Scarborough was calling for bans on weapons - and actions against Hollywood types who make movies that glorify violence (First AND Second Amendments all in one go).

Heck - look at all of the idiots here who still think they can pretend that "the militia" is the National Guard, as an excuse to bypass the Second Amendment. Any time you get a gun control thread, those idiots pop up every time...

You listed a few Dems, most of which did not call for overturning the 2nd. Have your reading skills been in a box for life? You should try opening that box, bro, because there isn't anyone proposing legislation or constitutional amendments to ban the 2nd.

No he did not. He listed a Hollywood actor who's never held office, a former Republican congressman, and a Chicago alderman who is indeed a Democrat, but that position ain't exactly bristling with national political power or influence. He listed them in the context of "Dems lined up to remove the 2nd Amendment." sadtrombone

Marion, shut up. You got away with it (well, not in the legal sense, but everyone still likes you) so stop talking now. You're beginning to sound like the bastard love child of Al Sharpton and Orly Taitz gene spliced with that alien guy.

coeyagi:You listed a few Dems, most of which did not call for overturning the 2nd.

You don't need to "overturn" (your word) something to bypass it (mine). Those people did suggest it.

For example, you can whine about how awful and dangerous it is, and come up with a bunch of excuses why you should just ignore it - and enact legislation that directly contradicts the Constitution.

It's funny how the defense immediately went to "those aren't real Democrats!" Yeah, Scarborough used to be a Republican, but he's one of the people who gave popularity to the term "RINO," and is now plainly a Democrat. The others are definitely Democrats, and trying to move the goalposts to "well, they aren't IMPORTANT Democrats who hold office" is pretty sad, especially since one of them is an alderman who knows the President personally, and the other is a Hollywood celebrity, like the hundreds of others who get used by the President (and others) to support the Democrat agenda...

If the government tried something similar with the First Amendment, by making people apply for licenses for large printing presses and web sites, banning high-capacity printing devices, and the like, you'd be screaming your heads off.

It's funny how the Second is the only amendment to the Constitution that's been restricted and redefined to be less-effective - when it's also the only one that actually protects all of the others from being violated wholesale.