Lt. Dol Grenn 48
Carth and Basty add 5 years
Dopak late twenties to Early thirties
Azkul 42
Admiral Cede 55
Darth Nihilus 35 (totally arbitrary but what little remained of the mind seemed to resemble that of a power hungry but fairly young person, and I don't believe he had been a sith very long, maybe ~10 years max)
Darth Sion 64 {he had been recruited some 40+ years earlier as a Sith Marauder in Exar Kun's army--look it up as that is sourced (which I will cover in my fanfic if I ever finish it! I figure as a young man in his early twenties he turned to the dark side).}
Master Vrook add 5
Master Zez Kai-Ell ~ mid 50's (acts as though younger, but fights as though older: Skilled but little stamina)
Kavar 38
Vash 41 at death

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I've been playing K1 again this winter break, and Canderous tells you that he's been fighting for 40 years. While Mandalorians do start early in the whole fighting for honour thing, I don't think they start at 4, 5 or 7 years old. :P

Given the whole Spartan like quality of the Mandalorians, I figured Ordo to likely be not much older than his early 50s (<55). Given that there are children in some societies that are fighting younger than 10, this doesn't seem too offbase.

Now, I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor, dumb bastard die for his country.---Patton

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism.---Teddy Roosevelt

I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception.---Groucho

And if you all get killed, I'll piss on your graves.---Shaman Urdnot

How would you like to own a little bit of my foot in your ass.---Red Foreman

Revan seemed to be a few years older than Bastila. I don't know why, he just seemed to be much older. And also, SWCity said that Revan was 27 and Malak was 28, I thought Revan would be older than Malak. After all, he was his apprentice and masters should generaly be older than his padawan, at least by two or three years. Oh Yeah, I also read the weirdest fanfic the other day pre mando wars and Bastila and Malak were in love (disturbingly in love if ya know what I'm getting at) and it was like a love triangle and Revan turned to the Dark side and Malak was the one that redeemed himself. It was HILARIUS! Heres the ages of the minor characters and the ones I forgott.

PC - varies, depending on what you want your character to look like.
Atton Rand is 29-32.
Handmaiden, Disciple, and Visas Marr are all 25.
Kreia looks 50, but like Yoda, who knows.
T3 was built in K1, so he's only had 5 years of hard living.
Mandalore is 63 in Mandalorian years.
Mira is 23.

The others are not specifically referenced, but you can probably backtrack from their histories in the game to figure it out. "

I've been playing K1 again this winter break, and Canderous tells you that he's been fighting for 40 years. While Mandalorians do start early in the whole fighting for honour thing, I don't think they start at 4, 5 or 7 years old. :P

Your right, forgot all about that, he did mention something about 40 years.

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Given the whole Spartan like quality of the Mandalorians, I figured Ordo to likely be not much older than his early 50s (<55). Given that there are children in some societies that are fighting younger than 10, this doesn't seem too offbase.

Yep...that makes sense too, come to think of it, Mira gave me that impression too; when she talks about her past to the Exile.

I'm glad the both of you pointed these things out, so in that case, he really must be at least 50 if not more in KOTOR.

The answers I gave for the most part are not necessarily solid except in a few cases.

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Oh, and I recently discovered that in a fairly recent DarkHorse comic, Luke Skywalker teams up with a Republic agent named Deena Shan. Fancy that?

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I've been playing K1 again this winter break, and Canderous tells you that he's been fighting for 40 years. While Mandalorians do start early in the whole fighting for honour thing, I don't think they start at 4, 5 or 7 years old. :P

I do suppose you have a good point there, however, it occurs to me that the difference between some fighter in their 40s and 50s is drastic.

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Uncle Candy demonstrated this when he said in TSL something to the effect that he had to rely on his wit, cunning, and armor whereas in K1 he gave the impression of a tiger, ready for the kill.

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Revan seemed to be a few years older than Bastila. I don't know why, he just seemed to be much older. And also, SWCity said that Revan was 27 and Malak was 28, I thought Revan would be older than Malak. After all, he was his apprentice and masters should generaly be older than his padawan, at least by two or three years.

If Revan was particularly gifted then the age discrepancy I gave might make even more sense for Malak's "chafing" under Revan's lead. Supposing I took your premise Malak would still have been in his mid late twenties, though.

Darth Sion, the Lord of Pain, was a Sith Lord who lived in the time of the Old Sith Wars. As a Sith Marauder in the Great Sith War, Sion fought for Exar Kun's Sith Empire until the day he was struck down.

Now, I have my theory as to why he essentially still had the shape and look of an undead guy in his twenties (though the reason for the mentality isn't hard if you think about it). I can share if you're interested, but Sion isn't that young, I'm sorry.

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Yuthura: 24

Sounded a bit older

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Dol Grenn: 61

Looked younger--not Gray enough.

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Sith Hermit: 86

Is no Palpatine, and awful vibrant for being that old.

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Dustil Onasi: 16

I'd say more like 19 or 20: seemed fairly strong in convictions and required significant evidence to get him to change his mind.

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Zayne Carrick: 19

Jarael: 20

Hmmm. Just not sure I agree...think I'll let Jae comment what she thinks.

Vrook fifty-four years old? That's ridiculous. He's got to be at least seventy (possibly even eighty) years old, because he was a Jedi Master at the time of the Great Hunt, which occured forty-two years before his death, and I don't think anyone has ever become a master at the age of twelve.

So, if we assume that he was in his late thirties or early forties when he achieved the rank of master, that would put his age at between seventy-eight and eighty-six.

Keep in mind that Bastila is a "young padawan"..I don't think she's in her late or even her mid 20's...I always imagined her being like 20-22ish, and Revan in his mid or late 20's. Carth is probably around the same age as (maybe a couple of years older, since he is his superior at the beginning of the game) Revan...Mission is obviously like a very young teenager....don't know enough about Wookie lifespan (not THAT into SW haha :P) to tell you anything like that.

But even though Bastila in-game looks very old, I always imagined her being A LOT younger, just because I'm 99% sure that along the game somewhere a lot of people describe Bastila as a "young padawan". Take into consideration that Anakin was like 18 or something when he started truly becoming Obi-Wan's padawan and no longer a childish apprentice and think about how despite everyone saying Bastila is incredibly powerful, if she's in her late 20's, then she's been a padawan for 10 YEARS. I mean I don't know if that's a normal wait time (whatwith the jedi preaching patience, haha :P) but to me that sounds like a very long time, especially considering everyone tooting her horn.

I thought that was rather done by surgery and Botox cures... and a big smacking load of make-up.

I read in some article, which the name of it escapes me now, that someone asked her how she kept looking so good at her age. She was quoted as saying "yoga" but I have suspicous feeling that your probably right Quanon. Or at least a little Botox is involved in her youthful appearance, if nothing else.

@Thread: I was thinking about some of the darkside characters in the Kotor games, I think most of the darksiders like Kreia are actually a lot younger than what their appearance makes us believe they are. Since they went to the darkside and have been that way for awhile, the effects of the darkside is what causes them to look like they are much older, when they are really not. The character Kreia, may actually be in her late 30's but really look like she's in her 60's or 70's.

Well, it's unlikely she'd be in her late 30s as she was a master when Revan was still a student and that was before the Mando Wars started (~15 or so years prior to TSL's events). I figure she's more like early 50s at best (figure Obi-wan was in his early fifties by SW and he looked somewhat the worse for wear).

Now, I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor, dumb bastard die for his country.---Patton

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism.---Teddy Roosevelt

I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception.---Groucho

And if you all get killed, I'll piss on your graves.---Shaman Urdnot

How would you like to own a little bit of my foot in your ass.---Red Foreman

Well, it's unlikely she'd be in her late 30s as she was a master when Revan was still a student and that was before the Mando Wars started (~15 or so years prior to TSL's events). I figure she's more like early 50s at best (figure Obi-wan was in his early fifties by SW and he looked somewhat the worse for wear).

Yep..apparently so Tot, was checking some sources on the internet and they all pretty much agreed on age of around 50 or "early 50s," like you said, including Wookieepedia. In her biographical information under her pic, they give her the birth date of (4,001 BBY) and of course her death on Malachor V as (3,951 BBY, Malachor V).

Méh, to the whole "zombie" look for DS characters in Kotor. Since they're powerfull in the force they make themselves look like whatever they want. I'dd say DS users are often "ugly" because of their aggressive lifestyle.

Choking, lighting throwing, duelling with other DS or LS users; they get scars and so on.
They're just more abusive on their bodies, wearing it down. Still shouldn't make you look like a bloodless, white/grey ghoul

^^^When you consider padawans have to be ~25 to be knighted, and Revan is probably now roughly in his early 30s, that makes for a bare minimum of 55, but there are definitely other factors to consider like a timeframe of ~5 years as a darksider (among other things which in turn means additional years), so more like at least 60.

The constant canon tumble is establishing ~50 (or so it appears) so I would not be surprised if TSL is crammed into still further obscurity and contradiction and making Revan even more mary sue instead of the badass marty stu he ought to be.

Look everyone Revan, was a 15 year old who lead the charge into the mandalorian wars! Kreia was 15 when taking on her first, Revan, which explains why she trained only screwups in the eyes of the council forever thereafter.

SW canon committee, if you're reading this, I beg of you please in the name of all that is good and great, let this era alone with what little dignity it has left. PLEASE.

We'll murder them all, amid laughter and merriment...except for the few we take home to experiment!

The others are not specifically referenced, but you can probably backtrack from their histories in the game to figure it out. "

I think that for Brianna (Handmaiden), she is not 25. It is not possible according to some calculations that have been developed, in French, concerning the calculation of the trial date of Arren Kae (which allows deducing the Brianna's birth date).

In essence, when exiled, Arren Kae joined her disciple, Revan, in the Trayus Academy. Revan discovered this Academy in 3963 BBY therefore the trial of Arren Kae takes place, at the earliest, in 3963 BBY.

Can it take place later? In 3962 BBY or 3961 BBY BBY?

No, because the trial is triggered by the discovery that Arren Kae has a girl of 10 at the time of trial.

If the trial takes place in 3963 BBY, Brianna is 22 during KOTOR 2.
If the trial takes place in 3962 BBY, Brianna is 21 during KOTOR 2.
If the trial takes place in 3961 BBY, Brianna is 20 during KOTOR 2.

As we can not rejuvenate Brianna below 22 years, we retain a trial date the earliest possible, either 3963 BBY, and so, Brianna's age is 22 during KOTOR 2.

Holy crap, something official. I guess there we have it, Kreia is at least 50 something...I'd still say late 60's to early 70s. Given Count Dooku was so vital and supposedly about that age range, it's hardly a stretch to say Kreia was at least as vital.

Brianna...Since she does not join a female Exile and it is canon that exile is female...I'm not so sure what bearing of significance she has...if any.
Atton has a youthful stoicism, so I'd agree there.
Visas...I dunno. Disciple, maybe maybe not, though he is mature for his age so he seems older than he actually is.
Mandalore 63? Hmm. I'd say more mid 50's at oldest.

Mira...ok I'll go for that, certainly has the attitude in her portrayal.

We'll murder them all, amid laughter and merriment...except for the few we take home to experiment!

Brianna...Since she does not join a female Exile and it is canon that exile is female...I'm not so sure what bearing of significance she has...if any.

Leland Chee has not decided precisely on this case. Some sources considered official ("The Essential Guide to the Force" and "Knights of the Republic Campaign Guide"), suggest that the Brianna character would be canonical (and thus, all that said this character is also canonical, especially about her mother, Arren Kae).

In "Holocron continuity database questions", Leland Chee does not close the door

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Is it at all possible that Brianna's adventures with her could still be canon?

Leland Chee
Maybe.

It is relatively important because if she is 10 at the time of the trial and 25 during Kotor 2, it puts the trial of Arren Kae in 3966 BBY, which is impossible since Revan is just beginning to recruit in 3964 BBY (canon from comics "Knights of the Old Republic" - Volume 1) and did not begin to travel.

The discovery of the birth of Brianna is not the subject of the trial, it's the trigger.

The subject of the trial is the challenge of revan and all the others against the High Council. The trial is therefore necessarily after 3964 BBY.