Originally posted by yourmaker
what about Militant Judaism? Militant Christianity?

I agree completly with your statement and the reason militarism is mixed with religion is because the right wingers control both and many times fight
among themselves for pseudo-supremacy of the regimes.

Religion and spiritualism are very different. One is based on social constructs and centuries of censorship and taking things out of concept, while
the second is the pursuit of truth and happiness. Truth and happiness cannot take place with luciferian leaders at the helm.

Originally posted by Anonymous404
If Israel would stop making it a religious debate and realize that politics and military intervention are really to blame then they might get
somewhere, but I doubt that will be the case.

They're so worried about having their little religion taken away that they have to try to take it away from others.

Secularism has always been the answer for EVERYONE!

The only reason people put more blame on judaism than christianity and islam is because jews have a superiority complex to rule the world. Very few,
if any, work with their hands in manual labor. All managerial jobs that demand the highest possible pay....that is if they are not outright owners of
said enterprise.

They have to change their ways as some customs are very detrimental to their own existance. Yes hamas has a share of the responsibility BUT BOTH keep
hoping for a two state solution which imo is moronic and unnecessary.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Israel is no different to northern ireland, cyprus, kashmir, sri lanka, southern sudan, etc.

edit on 24/6/12 by EarthCitizen07 because: (no
reason given)

Aside from perhaps the slightly above average concentration of psychopaths, that is...although then again, they seem to be unusually common in the
Middle East in general. I'm inclined to blame the heat, personally. I suspect that if I lived in the desert, I'd probably be fairly pissed off
too.

America & UK are playing Mathew Chat 24 games in the Middle East, The USA & UK are getting Muslim's to fight each other, then when the area is
destroyed and fewer Muslims are left America will come in and take all Middle East Oil, job done, quote Chap 24 you will see Earthquakes, war and talk
of wars, and you will see brothers fighting brother (Muslims) yet all the time it should be Muslims fighting America, instead the countries that are
soon to attack America will be Russia & China.
It is getting to be a murky world, but dangerous simply because America is getting involved with parts of the world it knows nothing about.

A secret CIA effort to vet rebel forces fighting the Syrian government and help U.S. allies steer arms toward factions likely to be sympathetic to
American interests is fraught with dangers not seen in other recent clandestine operations, policy analysts said.

Defeating militant Islam is as easy as giving them their own country. With their looser leaders are in control we are guaranteed they will reverse the
direction of progress and keep the population under control. Once their respective countries are fenced in with drones and separated from the
civilized world Islam will wipe it self out. Islamic states will be left to fester in their existence in the dark ages, while the rest of the world
moves forward to progress, innovation and enlightenment. This is the new strategy

Moon worship has been practiced in Arabia since 2000 BC. The crescent moon is the most common symbol of this pagan moon worship as far back as 2000
BC.
In Mecca, there was a god named Hubal who was Lord of the Kabah.
This Hubal was a moon god.
One Muslim apologist confessed that the idol of moon god Hubal was placed upon the roof of the Kaba about 400 years before Muhammad. This may in fact
be the origin of why the crescent moon is on top of every minaret at the Kaba today and the central symbol of Islam atop of every mosque throughout
the world:
About four hundred years before the birth of Muhammad one Amr bin Lahyo ... a descendant of Qahtan and king of Hijaz, had put an idol called Hubal on
the roof of the Kaba. This was one of the chief deities of the Quraish before Islam. (Muhammad The Holy Prophet, Hafiz Ghulam Sarwar (Pakistan), p
18-19, Muslim)
The moon god was also referred to as "al-ilah". This is not a proper name of a single specific god, but a generic reference meaning "the god".
Each local pagan Arab tribe would refer to their own local tribal pagan god as "al-ilah".
"al-ilah" was later shortened to Allah before Muhammad began promoting his new religion in 610 AD.
There is evidence that Hubal was referred to as "Allah".
When Muhammad came along, he dropped all references to the name "Hubal" but retained the generic "Allah".
Muhammad retained almost all the pagan rituals of the Arabs at the Kaba and redefined them in monotheistic terms.
Regardless of the specifics of the facts, it is clear that Islam is derived from paganism that once worshiped a moon-god.
Islams roots are in paganism.
"If a Muslim says, "Your God and our God is the same," either he does not understand who Allah and Christ really are, or he intentionally glosses
over the deep-rooted differences." (Who Is Allah In Islam?, Abd-Al Masih, Light of Life, 1985, p. 36.)
Now there dwelt in Mecca a god called Allah. He was the provider, the most powerful of all the local deities, the one to whom every Meccan turned in
time of need. But, for all his power, Allah was a remote god. At the time of Muhammad, however, he was on the ascendancy. He had replaced the moon god
as lord of the Kaaba although still relegated to an inferior position below various tribal idols and three powerful goddesses: al-Manat, goddess of
fate, al-Lat, mother of the gods, and al-Uzza, the planet Venus. (Islam and the Arabs, Rom Landau, 1958 p 11-21)

Moon worship has been practiced in Arabia since 2000 BC. The crescent moon is the most common symbol of this pagan moon worship as far back as 2000
BC.
In Mecca, there was a god named Hubal who was Lord of the Kabah.
This Hubal was a moon god.
One Muslim apologist confessed that the idol of moon god Hubal was placed upon the roof of the Kaba about 400 years before Muhammad. This may in fact
be the origin of why the crescent moon is on top of every minaret at the Kaba today and the central symbol of Islam atop of every mosque throughout
the world:
About four hundred years before the birth of Muhammad one Amr bin Lahyo ... a descendant of Qahtan and king of Hijaz, had put an idol called Hubal on
the roof of the Kaba. This was one of the chief deities of the Quraish before Islam. (Muhammad The Holy Prophet, Hafiz Ghulam Sarwar (Pakistan), p
18-19, Muslim)
The moon god was also referred to as "al-ilah". This is not a proper name of a single specific god, but a generic reference meaning "the god".
Each local pagan Arab tribe would refer to their own local tribal pagan god as "al-ilah".
"al-ilah" was later shortened to Allah before Muhammad began promoting his new religion in 610 AD.
There is evidence that Hubal was referred to as "Allah".
When Muhammad came along, he dropped all references to the name "Hubal" but retained the generic "Allah".
Muhammad retained almost all the pagan rituals of the Arabs at the Kaba and redefined them in monotheistic terms.
Regardless of the specifics of the facts, it is clear that Islam is derived from paganism that once worshiped a moon-god.
Islams roots are in paganism.
"If a Muslim says, "Your God and our God is the same," either he does not understand who Allah and Christ really are, or he intentionally glosses
over the deep-rooted differences." (Who Is Allah In Islam?, Abd-Al Masih, Light of Life, 1985, p. 36.)
Now there dwelt in Mecca a god called Allah. He was the provider, the most powerful of all the local deities, the one to whom every Meccan turned in
time of need. But, for all his power, Allah was a remote god. At the time of Muhammad, however, he was on the ascendancy. He had replaced the moon god
as lord of the Kaaba although still relegated to an inferior position below various tribal idols and three powerful goddesses: al-Manat, goddess of
fate, al-Lat, mother of the gods, and al-Uzza, the planet Venus. (Islam and the Arabs, Rom Landau, 1958 p 11-21)

Landau is a sensationalist writer, philosopher and atheist. His biases are not a valid source of truth searching or intellect. Nice try country boy.

As far as most militant Islam goes, its just sad joke. Here is an example of what Islam calls a scholar. They are going to destroy the US and kill
president Obama. My guess is they are starting a new devastating program of storming the white house with herds of goats trained as suicide bombers.

"The only reason people put more blame on judaism than christianity and islam is because jews have a superiority complex to rule the world. Very few,
if any, work with their hands in manual labor. All managerial jobs that demand the highest possible pay....that is if they are not outright owners of
said enterprise. “

I could have sworn these are the words taken directly from one of Josef Goebbels et al speeches.

"A “good German” works hard and joyfully to serve his people. For him, “making something” has always been a more important result of his
creative strength than “making money.” The good German values each creation, each discovery, as a service to the German people’s community that
is more valuable to him than the possibility of making money. The best German is not he who makes the most money, but rather he who is of greatest
service to his people. I doubt that one can translate this sentence into Hebrew, since it goes far beyond any Jewish understanding.”

"Zionism only conceals your true intentions from those blinded circles who see in Jewry a different ideal than the will to totally control the
world. The “poor Jews” hope that once they have torn apart the peoples of the world, putting them at the service of the Jews, they will be able,
with the help of money, to assure the rule of a world bled dry”

As far as most militant Islam goes, its just sad joke. Here is an example of what Islam calls a scholar. They are going to destroy the US and kill
president Obama. My guess is they are starting a new devastating program of storming the white house with herds of goats trained as suicide bombers.

Yes we are going to arrange a back-room deal with the Palestinians buy them out and build golf courses and a Disneyland. (Thats what we do)

We are very busy with another construction project at the moment but as soon as the demolition is completed, we will be contacting you forum.bismikaallahuma.org...

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Something is rotten in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. But let me come back to that later.

In December 1992 a mob of 150,000 Hindu nationalists attacked a 15th-century mosque in the Indian city of Ayodhya. Within hours, the mosque was
reduced to rubble and in the weeks to follow, thousands of Indians died in Hindu-Muslim riots.

The Muslim world reacted in outrage. Among the countries that expressed anger at the destruction of the centuries-old Indian mosque by Hindu
extremists was Saudi Arabia. Here in Canada, imams gave fiery sermons and urged congregations to protest.

Although more than a dozen years have passed since the destruction of the mosque, there is still bitterness in the air. Muslims worldwide feel a sense
of betrayal and impotence at not being able to control their own destiny and protect their historical religious sites.

However, a Muslim site far more significant than the Babri mosque is facing destruction, but there is barely a murmur in protest. The site is none
other than the home of Prophet Muhammad in the city of Mecca.

The demolition of Muhammad's 1,400-year-old home is not going to take place at the hands of non-Muslims or some occupying western army, but by the
very people who have taken the title as protectors of Islam's two holiest mosques in Medina and Mecca: the Saudi royal family.

What makes this demolition worse is the fact that the home of the Prophet is to make way for a parking lot, two 50-storey hotel towers and seven
35-storey apartment blocks; a project known as the Jabal Omar Scheme, all within a stone's throw of the Grand Mosque.

As far as most militant Islam goes, its just sad joke. Here is an example of what Islam calls a scholar. They are going to destroy the US and kill
president Obama. My guess is they are starting a new devastating program of storming the white house with herds of goats trained as suicide bombers.

Well the American people themselves are goodhearted people, but the charities they donate to are a joke.

Btw don't think that America does not benefit from these disasters. All the help given is paid back in certain ways, military and economic. The
charities being sent out to disasters, man made and otherwise are just useful idiots for Americas military foreign policy. There is always some kind
of scandal popping up with these stories.

So if you're worried about throwing tax dollars away on ungrateful peasants in other countries, don't fret overmuch about it good sir, because your
leaders, despite outward appearances, do know what they are doing.

Originally posted by yourmaker
what about Militant Judaism? Militant Christianity?

I agree completly with your statement and the reason militarism is mixed with religion is because the right wingers control both and many times fight
among themselves for pseudo-supremacy of the regimes.

Religion and spiritualism are very different. One is based on social constructs and centuries of censorship and taking things out of concept, while
the second is the pursuit of truth and happiness. Truth and happiness cannot take place with luciferian leaders at the helm.

Of course truth and peace can take place despite Luciferian leadership. Its just that most people are cultured to operate under a Luciferian
leadership through an ideological principle of obedience over 'thinking'; to have FAITH in a higher, nondescript power they will never actually have
contact with.

In your unclear way of primitive thinking, your argument holds merit if, there is no right or wrong. However, when the concepts you are implying are
weighed in light of opinion of right and wrong its plain to see they have no realistic grounds whatsoever.
I have dealt with many other people like yourself who, upon inspection of the facts resorts to a personal attack of another poster because they are
unable to deal with the fact that they are wrong. When someone is unable to defend their position, they resort to name calling out of frustration.
Frankly, I cannot see where you have posted any statements or questions worthy of the time it takes for me to make a comment to you and if I did, I
would then have to arrive at the conclusion that I can justify stooping myself to your level and create a post based on your flawed opinion. In
addition, all maters should be kept in a civil accordance within the terms of service of this website.

Netanyahu a brilliant man that has an opinion. I believe he could very well be correct in his assumptions.
The catalysts for his statements are probably due to the fact the technological divide is growing exponentially between the free world and Islamic
states. There are many new avenues of resources to employ in the war against militant Islam.

The difference between Goebbles and Mohammed’s Islam is:
One ideology makes a group of people the subject of their hate because of what they are,
The other ideology makes a group of people the subject of their hate because of what they believe.

In your unclear way of primitive thinking, your argument holds merit if, there is no right or wrong. However, when the concepts you are implying are
weighed in light of opinion of right and wrong its plain to see they have no realistic grounds whatsoever.
I have dealt with many other people like yourself who, upon inspection of the facts resorts to a personal attack of another poster because they are
unable to deal with the fact that they are wrong. When someone is unable to defend their position, they resort to name calling out of frustration.
Frankly, I cannot see where you have posted any statements or questions worthy of the time it takes for me to make a comment to you and if I did, I
would then have to arrive at the conclusion that I can justify stooping myself to your level and create a post based on your flawed opinion. In
addition, all maters should be kept in a civil accordance within the terms of service of this website.

Netanyahu a brilliant man that has an opinion. I believe he could very well be correct in his assumptions.
The catalysts for his statements are probably due to the fact the technological divide is growing exponentially between the free world and Islamic
states. There are many new avenues of resources to employ in the war against militant Islam.

the X-47B is the future of U.S. Navy unmanned aviation.

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Stereotyping a person who calls himself "redneck", and who spouts anti-Semitic hate mantras isn't what I would call stooping.

And what on earth do you know about right and wrong? You are the one condemning the entire Semitic population by focusing on a few bad examples.
Creating more walls of resentment between ninety percent of the best people on this planet.

That would be considered irresponsible by someone who possessed any sense of moral justice.

I have as yet to see you engaged in any meaningful resolutions or thoughtfully considered dialogue regarding the broader focus. All I see from you in
this thread is acting out your emotional baggage.

You haven't mentioned the five million Iraqi orphans as the result of cooked intelligence or the fact that the CIA has been giving material support
to Salafe terrorist groups in Lebanon for the past six years.

But of course you wouldn't know such things or even care because you are ethically spineless.

If all you care about is obfuscating the ugly truth using white supremacist videos, hey son - go right ahead.

I'll just go on believing that you're one sad excuse of a human being.

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