.NET Core Roadmap

It has been about two weeks since we shipped .NET Core / ASP.NET Core 1.0. The team has used the past two weeks to take a deep breath, and is now getting started on planning what is coming next. We have seen a lot of .NET Core SDK downloads and significant feedback. Please keep the feedback coming.

Here is a rough timeline of how things might look going forward. Note that these are the targeted dates that the team are currently working towards but may change.

1.0.1 (~August 2016)

We are actively monitoring the 1.0 release for issues to include in a first patch (1.0.1) release of the .NET Core SDK. There is no scheduled date for this patch update but early August is likely. Here is a list of the top issues we are investigating:

Updates to the dotnet new templates for F# so they use the latest alpha of F# on .NET Core

Miscellaneous fixes to the tools based on crash telemetry.

Q4 2016 / Q1 2017

This will be the first minor update, mainly focused on replacing .xproj/project.json with .csproj/MSBuild. Project format update should be automatic. Just opening a 1.0 project will update it to the new project format. There will also be new functionality and improvements in the runtime and libraries.

As context, .NET Core 1.0 included a preview version of the .NET Core Tools, referred to as “Preview 2”. The tools were “preview” primarily because we knew that we would change the tools experience post 1.0. .NET Core and the .NET Core Tools will both be “RTM quality” or “stable” with this release.

.NET Core Tooling

Support for .csproj/MSBuild project system

dotnet restore improvements to not restore packages that are part of .NET Core

Languages (available for .NET Framework and .NET Core)

The next releases for the .NET languages will apply to all .NET platforms. There’s a lot of information out there about the features included in these releases but here’s a short summary:

Bring functional programming concepts to .NET languages

Tuples

Pattern matching

Performance and Code Quality

Value Tasks

Ref returns

Throw expressions

Binary literals

Digit separators

Developer Productivity

Out vars

Local functions

These features will be all available in C# 7. VB 15 will also implement all the features that impact language interop (tuples, ref returns, etc) but some features will be available in the next language update (e.g. pattern matching) or are not in the roadmap (e.g. local functions).

In addition to C# and VB we’ll also release a new version for the F# language. F# 4.1 will include things like:

Full .NET Core support

Better IDE experience with workspace support on the F# language service

New language features such as struct tuples which interoperate with ValueTuple, more support for annotating types as structs, support for the fixed keyword and more.

ASP.NET Core

Web Sockets

URL Rewriting Middleware

Azure

App Service startup time improvements

App Service Logging Provider

Azure Key Vault Provider

Azure AD B2C Support

Containers and Microservices

Service Fabric support via WebListener based server

MVC & DI Startup Time Improvements

Previews

SignalR

View Pages (Views without MVC Controllers)

.NET Core Runtime and Libraries

ARM 32/64

More Linux distributions (build from source)

Entity Framework Core

Azure

Transient fault handling (resiliency)

Mapping

Custom type conversions

Complex types (value objects)

Entity entry APIs

Update pipeline

CUD stored procedures

Better batching (TVPs)

Ambient transactions

Query

Stability, performance.

Migrations

Seed data

Stability

Reverse engineer

Pluralization

VS item template (UX)

Q1 2017 / Q2 2017

This release will bring back many of the missing APIs in .NET Core, including networking, serialization, data and more. Looking at the various flavors of .NET there is a lot of common BCL code that is not tied to App Models (WinForms, WPF, ASP.NET, etc). These APIs will be part of .NET Standard 2.0, which will be released at the same time, resulting in APIs being consistent across .NET Framework, .NET Core and Xamarin. It will be much easier to write portable code that can run on all the major .NET platforms, targeting .NET Standard 2.0. Expect a preview of this work to start showing up after we ship the Q4/Q1 release.

Better Communication

Moving forward we want to be more transparent in what the team is doing. To do this we are planning on updating this blog on a more frequently with updates on the team. A rough list of upcoming topics is:

.NET Core Roadmap (this blog post)

ASP.NET Upcoming Highlights

Entity Framework Upcoming Highlights

.NET CLI Upcoming Highlights

Support and Versioning .NET Core

Telemetry in .NET Core

.NET Standard

APIs Returning

Project Conversion from project.json to .csproj

Next week we hope to show some of the first examples of what the conversion to .csproj/MSBuild will look like and a deeper dive of the new functionality in one of (ASP.NET, EF or .NET CLI).

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We would like to support both architectures for both OSes, although the various combinations will arrive at different times. We’re still planning these projects, so I don’t have anything concrete to share yet.

> Project format update should be automatic. Just opening a 1.0 project will update it to the new project format.
Where should I open my project? Let’s imagine that I’m linux developer, and all what I have is – dotnet cli

In fact VS Code is just an editor. Have you ever seen VS Code suggesting you to update your .NET Core project to 1.0.0 from beta? For now, I see too ways: 1) Visual Studio (Windows) 2) DotNet CLI additional command.

Let’s imagine two different developers.
The first one decided to convert his popular library to netstandard1.x right now

Pros
– He could run his library/framework on linux and MacOs
– All projects which depend on this library could start using netcore too.

Cons
– He should spend many weeks to convert his code to netcore
– He probably have to remove some features
– He should convert all project to xproj/project.json right now
– He should convert back all his project.json to csproj after 2.0 release
– He won’t use any restored API in 2.0. because he has already changed it

The second one decided to wait for 2.0

Pros
– He will spend only few hours to convert his code
– He shouldn’t change all his csproj
– He shouldn’t live with temporary bugs which we have right now in corefx and in dotnet cli

Cons
– All projects which use his library should wait for 2.0
– Can’t run the code on linux/macos

So I have two questions.
1) Who will use this restored APIs in 2.0 if all developers switch to netcore 1.0 in the near future?
2) What the real reason to move to netcore right now, if much easier to wait for 2.0?

IMHO, the idea that ASP.NET MVC is better than Web Forms is blatantly false. MVC is simply a rip off of Ruby On Rails which was inferior to begin with. There is simply no comparison when you are using something like Telerik’s controls. Web Forms wins hands down. I personally, see no compelling reason to mess with Core at all. I would like to use EF Core, but, even that has a long ways to go. MVC is a huge let down for me. I don’t see a compelling reason for switching to running on Linux or Mac OS either. It would be great if Microsoft were to create a successor to both Web Forms and MVC. Something along the lines of JavaServer Faces. Something that has the concept of UI controls, and doesn’t just say, go use Angular.

WebForms generally is easy to work with, but doesn’t align well with what the web browser actually needs or does. The side effect of that is it tends to have a lot of (provable) overhead that likely isn’t related to anything you actually are doing in whatever program you are writing. It typically generates god awful markup, and it encourages some really crappy programming practices that will impair scalability, security and privacy.

ASP.NET MVC, as with Rails — and indeed PHP, classic ASP, and some old CGI techs — uses the same model the web browser itself uses of “request a resource, get a document back.” It doesn’t raise a ton of events, it doesn’t try to replicate things, it doesn’t build a huge tree. There’s a lot less temporary objects produced, and so it scales better — and it gives you more control of what ends up on the wire.

That doesn’t mean that it is “better” than WebForms, but it encourages you to think about application architecture and to make engineering decisions that are good for the long term viability of whatever app you’re writing.

In general, MVC is going to project less — which is typically good for scalability — and produce nicer markup. In also is going to produce much better log entries in the IIS and Windows event logs, if you ever have to track down a hacker. That’s just inherent in how MVC models requests versus what WebForms does.

I agree, the argument against web forms has always been the mass of code-behind that earlier developers used to leave in the pages, and that the code-behind is “untestable”. At my current shop we use my MVVM/Observer framework. The pages can be pretty dumb, the controllers and models are in a different project, and can be unit tested, our base page contains all the common plumbing for error handling, logging etc. We use master pages for look and feel, and we have a bunch of user controls which know how to render themselves, go invisible, become read – only. We have Telerik controls in new pages, we’re still using Infragistics components on others. It’s not perfect, because it had to be implemented on an asp.net 1 codebase, but its a lot simpler to work with than building the UI from scratch via Razor.
We’re still using the SSRS report viewer, it would be nice if that emitted HTML5, and the print button would work on non-IE browsers.
So many developers get caught up in “purity” debates while building yet another social media web site. Ours is a corporate platform, and our end-users push hundreds of millions through our finance system every year. They don’t care whether we use WebForms, MVC, Angular etc. All they want to see is the right information, presented clearly.

You can easily use ASP.NET Core on the .NET Framework. That’s what we do for our current project, expected to release in Sep/Oct. .NET Core just isn’t where we need it yet. Our long-term perspective may be to switch from .NETFx/Mono to .NET Core for cross-platform support, but that’s a long way.

I don’t think v2 will automatically upgrade your code for you, Microsoft have said you should see netcore/standard as equivalent to going from1.1 to 2.0 instead of an upgrade akin to 4.5.1. A lot of APIs are missing right now though, so waiting probably is going to be the choice for most projects.

All the 2017 release is likely to do is move project.json into the lovely new XML format (can’t we ASP.NETers just keep project.json?) – not convert your csproj file into the new format.

That’s a good description of the situation. You are not the first one to raise it. It also explains why we are making these changes.

Here’s our basic advice for 1.0:

– Move to 1.0 for existing ASP.NET apps that you want to migrate to Linux and/or macOS in the short-term.
– Consider 1.0 for new apps, particularly if you appreciate the cross-plat and deployment benefits.
– Experiment with 1.0 to prepare for apps that you think will be good candidates when adopting .NET Core becomes easier.

It seems to me, correct me please if I am wrong, that Microsoft is afraid that people switch to Linux/Mac as a result of cross platform nature of the .NET Core. The idea is wrong ,IMHO, it is already happening BEFORE the release of the .net Core and is one of the reasons behind the demand for the .net Core not the other way around! What you should really be afraid of is to loose the few loyal developers remaining on .Net due to your indecisiveness.

For example this question clearly states “Can’t run code on Linux/mac” with V 2.0 and I don’t see you denying it. This tells me to “wait! It’s just to attract more developers and they are going to kill this thing eventually.”

You should be aware that force will not work in a world in which competition exists. I already regret my choice of .Net in college over Java. With Java, it’s not like we sleep one night and next morning our programs are “legacy”! It’s not like they stop supporting Linux in favor of Mac with next release!

IMO, managers who decided to take MS Windows OS and development stack where it is today are to blame and should pay the price, not .net developers AGAIN.

If these assumptions are correct, which I deeply wish are not, then that will be it for many developers and companies, I believe.

Yes. ARM32 support will enable .NET Core on Raspberry Pi, on both Windows IoT Core and Linux. Both are in scope.

I’m actually not sure if ARM32 will be in the release its listed under or the one that comes after it. We’re still locking both of those releases. I hope to be able to clarify that in one of the next roadmap updates.

The “Custom type conversions” feature will be one of the lower level features that spatial type support is built on – and should light up a lot of the scenarios that folks want with spatial data. The part it doesn’t solve is calling .NET functions on the spatial types in a LINQ query, and having those translated to SQL. It’s worth noting that we’re not sure that having a common spatial abstraction (like DbGeography from EF6.x) is a good approach, and instead we may lean towards add on libraries that light up the spatial types that make sense for a given database provider.

Thanks for your answer! I expected exactly what you said: spatial types as special case of type conversion. And had the same concern – how to implement spatial functions. I agree that common abstraction is far not ideal. If you expose it as in EF6.x, then you will have a dependency on EF in domain model (I hate this much in EF6). If you convert from a custom type to that abstraction, then its not clear how to implement LINQ spatial queries over the custom type. So some light up approach may be the good solution.
Whatever path you choose, its important have this feature ASAP, since spatial data is everywhere, and for many projects absence of it in EF Core is the main reason to stick with EF6.

Those types would make sense for the SQL Server implementation, but Postgres/Npgsql also has it’s own equivalent. What we think probably makes the most sense is to have a provider specific add-on that introduces spatial support (including the ability to translate operations in LINQ queries into store-specific SQL).

Yeah, annoying, huh? Totally reflects poorly on everyone here to use something so outdated and arcane. Especially for a technology company. You can show your support for a new comment system here (although since it’s on the VS product blog users are voting for issues more pertinent to VS — this is the “best” place to vote as there isn’t a uservoice for, uh, blogs 😛 ):

I understand the team has an interest in adding security features (and perhaps other features) to Kestrel so that it can act as an Internet-facing web server. I’ll put that on my holiday wish list!

Also keep in mind that we need ServiceBase ported to Core so that we can build Windows Services apps for Nano Server. It’s obviously too small an item to be specifically mentioned here, but please don’t put that off too long. Nano is a rockstar platform, and I have a ServiceBase app that I need to port for it.

Correct me if I’m wrong. I believe is has to do with redesigning the task class to be a struct instead so that I can be allocated on the stack instead of cluttering up the heap that needs to be garbage collected when full, which is a growing concern for unresponsive UI in an everything async/await world. By making the async/await pattern (read tasks) more lean, it can be used more in tighter loops where the wait times are not as long but still want to benefit from the async benefits without the GC issues it presents otherwise.

I was hoping somebody was asking about this. I can only assume other areas within Microsoft are going to get on the .NET Core bandwagon. Connect doesn’t show anybody has even asked. I’ll try to get around and post something this week. https://connect.microsoft.com/SQLServer/Feedback

Keeping the roadmap in a regular, well-publicized place, and then regular scheduled updates (say bi-weekly) would be a huge communications win for the Microsoft team and the community. Even if the regular update is “no change from last update”, this shows MS is listening and repeating back to the community what it has heard and the direction it is taking. Communications will make or break .NET Core.

In general, we want to communicate less day-to-day decisions around OSS via our blog and instead use GitHub. We’ll continue to use the blog for product announcement, such as previews and releases. However, at this point there is nothing to announce yet 🙂

It would be nice if dot net core 1.01/1.1 would make self-contained application (via xcopy) work on Mac OS X. The docs state net core has no external dependencies so applications can be installed via xcopy but on Mac it still has a external dependency to a non-standard openssl version that Apple does not support. To make things worse the suggested installation requires yet another complicated tool (brew) and can be tricky to work. As it is, it is simply not possible to deploy a self-contained dot net core application intended for normal users on Mac.

“This will be the first minor update, mainly focused on replacing .xproj/project.json with .csproj/MSBuild”

Seriously? I really liked the new JSON structure as I could easily edit it in my editor of choice, whereas the .**proj format is verbose and auto-generated. Really surprised that the latter isn’t being deprecated instead.

Where can I find more about the roadmap of the converging tracks of WPF and XAML/C#/UWP?
It seems that the Standard 2.0 will be interessting for all ‘old-legacy’ developers of WPF apps.
What are the guide lines for developing long term WPF apps?
We still build on MVVM and hope that we will be able to replace the WPF-View in future with a XAML-UWP-View.
Do you plan to embed special manifest UWP properties to open the sandbox for Client-Server desktop development?
Will the XAML/UWP app controls be extended like a treeview for mouse/keyboard handling in the old way?

With every iteration of Windows 10, including the upcoming Windows 10 Anniversary Update, we are trying to add more and more capabilities to UWP, so it would be useful to know what extra capabilities you need added beyond. We are also looking at enabling more controls like TreeView, etc. – please stay tuned. Every control we support in the platform today in UWP XAML supports mouse and keyboard (and touch) equally well, and this will be always the case.

There are a number of other things we are investigating as well, we would love to talk to you if you are interested (unnir at Microsoft dot com).

To be sure… is this talking about traditional UWP or are you saying that UWP is officially becoming cross-platform/.NET Core? I have not seen anything official about UWP/WPF/client-side becoming cross-platform, although this is expected at some point, as well as an improved Xaml system as what is in place now for UWP feels like the efforts of a team of interns. 😛

That’s what the post suggests! I’m actually not sure if ARM32 will be in the release its listed under or the one that comes after it. We’re still locking both of those releases. I hope to be able to clarify that in one of the next roadmap updates.

Will MS make WCF be part of .NET core? it will be the real killer for serious programmers. I do not expect all in but the WCF core, such as selected commonly used binding, transaction, industrial standard security.

From the company that brought you DOS, and then replaced it with a GUI OS because no one wanted to work in an arcane, error-prone, and difficult-to-understand environment brings you…. MORE OF THE VERY THING THEY WORKED SO HARD TO REPLACE!!!

The other issue/consideration is that all along we’ve been told we’re going to get tooling and IDE improvements to compliment and “light up” the CLI… wellllllllll… how’s that going? 😛

MSFT should really invest in some innovation here so that when a .NET developer creates a CLI/console app, a GUI-based version is automatically created around it (based off metadata, etc), so that developers can work with their preferred interface.

Our goal is to enable a command-line experience for folks that want that and then use VS Code and Visual Studio for folks that want a GUI experience. We know that different people want different things, so we are doing both. You can absolutely use .NET Core without ever using the comand-line tools.

There will not be completely native lazy loading support in 1.1, but the combination of Eager Loading and adding an equivalent to the OnMaterialized event from EF6 should be enough to achieve lazy loading with a bit of extra code. We do plan to support lazy loading, it will be built on top of some of the things we are adding in the 1.1 release.

Just to be another voice. Don’t wane go back to csproj /MSBuild. The new xproj/project.json has so many advantages like all in one place, easy to read and write, transparent (no hidden settings in project files). That’s like painting a Ferrari pink.
Related tools would adapt after a while.

The goal is to preserve many of the values that project.json had, specifically the terseness of the file and wildcard support for source files. Being able to hand-edit the XML without pulling your eyes out is quite important to us 🙂

When are Microsoft’s advanced scientists going to develop a blog platform that allows authors to actually post content under their own names instead of having every blog post written by Immo Landwerth with the real author in the text?

Every IT manager in the world is now cringing uncontrollably and they don’t know why. This is probably their worst nightmare excuse for every security vulnerability that they have to deal with on a daily basis. To hear it being endorsed/utilized/employed from the very company that is supposed to hand down best practices and procedure (and in fact publishes plenty of documentation/guidance/articles that says to do exactly NOT this) is… well, I can’t even.

Always good to have some idea where we are going! Thanks!
Especially, .NET Core 2.0 would be much more interesting, going over the too many limits of .NET Core 1.0

What is still unclear is XAMARIN: what about a real merge on Xamarin and .NET Core? Or better said, where are we in the merge of Mono and .NET Core? Wasn’t it the goal of buying Xamarin? Xamarin is based on Mono, all efforts on mono should be put in .NET Core to gain a better visibility and understanding among the developer.
Currently (VS2015), one developer targeting a cross platform app should go on Xamarin for iOS and Android, and deal with .NET Core/UWP for Windows 10 (Desktop/Mobile/Xbox). These branches should become one!

An even bigger merge would be to have the full .NET Framework becoming another layer on top of .NET Core.
Thus, we could develop our main class library / code logic targeting .NET Core 2.0/3,0 and then, having different project referencing the very same dll: on one side Windows full app (e.g. WPF/ .NET 4.x, cmd line tool, on other side mobile/cross platform dev (iOS/Android/ Windows Mobile if it still go somewhere…)
The current situation (VS2015) with “shared project” and maybe precompiler stuff is not that clear to build this kind of multi platform apps (even if quite possible with interfaces and dependency injection).

Basically, what I wish is to have a .NET Core which really becomes the common core of all .NET variants!

Main goal is consistency: ensure that the same code will always have the same behavior. The current situation with separate implementations might lead to different behavior of the same shared code…

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