metal bands that don't suck

i'm not really a big metal fan. i like some parts of some songs. oh, and dopethrone by electric wizard. most of the album. its good.

the breakdown in lamb of god's black label (near the end) is ****ing badass, for example.

oh, and master of puppets is alright. but everyone knows that.

NOT a fan of:-constant screamo with no buildup of tension/release (it can work in breaks)-vocalists that feel the need to jerk themselves off by drowning out all other instruments-drums that sound like they were made on a sequencer (eg no velocity dynamics)-thrash/mindless shred (guitar masturbation) -insanely fast drums for the sake of insanely fast drums-classic metal bands (judas priest, etc)

dream theater has amazing instrumentals (super technical). i can appreciate that. i like the vocals too, they're like muse, kind of (one of my favourite bands). however, they've got this Rush-like quality that i just can't get behind. some people love Rush. i do not. XD

queensryche is NOT my thing. it forcibly reminded me of that meme with the sweaty 40 year old slaying cougar bitches with his rainbow keytar.

the singer from nevermore sounds like he's continuously shitting his pants.

blind guardian is the worst thing i have ever heard in my life. i hope they all get aids.

You dislike muse, i dislike 90% of the bands you're into. I guess we're even

Yeah, I guess you're right about Chevelle. Its not like certain song structures are popular because they work well. That would be silly.Atypical song structures can be good. Care to show me your favourite example?

Deftones? Koi No Yokan is amazing. If you like Mastodon you'll probably like Baroness (especially the albums Red and Blue).

Broenheim, Deftones' self titled was one of the first metal cds I ever bought. They're one of my fav bands from back in the day. Team Sleep is bomb too.Koi No Yokan is THE SHIT. I was blown away. And they did the entire thing on an Axe FX 2? Badassery.

I checked out a couple of Baroness songs. They're definitely good. Thanks.

Not one of those songs follows the same song structure... or is Garbage for that matter .

OT: If you like Katatonia, Opeth and Muse (as I do), then a few other suggestions:Ne ObliviscarisGuilt MachineBattle Circus (more rock but whatever, oh and free album)Porcupine Tree (start with Fear of a Blank Planet)Riverside (start with Second Life Syndrome)Karnivool (start with Sound Awake)Haken (start with Visions)TesseractSwallow The Sun (start with The Morning Never Came)

I'm also going to say Cynic, but it might be a bit early for that...

EDIT: I forgot Symphony X. Paradise Lost might be a good place to start.

Not one of those songs follows the same song structure... or is Garbage for that matter .

I wasn't saying Muse had the same song structure every song. That said, new Muse certainly is garbage.

OT: If you like Katatonia, Opeth and Muse (as I do), then a few other suggestions:Ne ObliviscarisGuilt MachineBattle Circus (more rock but whatever, oh and free album)Porcupine Tree (start with Fear of a Blank Planet)Riverside (start with Second Life Syndrome)Karnivool (start with Sound Awake)Haken (start with Visions)TesseractSwallow The Sun (start with The Morning Never Came)

I'm also going to say Cynic, but it might be a bit early for that...

Aside from TessacT and Riverside (but those are more personal things), I'd agree with all of these choices.

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Yeah, I guess you're right about Chevelle. Its not like certain song structures are popular because they work well. That would be silly.Atypical song structures can be good. Care to show me your favourite example?

Check out some Post-Metal. Neurosis, Isis, and Cult of Luna are good places to start.

if you liked Master of Puppets, you may like Ride The lightning [better guitar work] or ...And Justice for all [better vocals]. As for bands, I'm not sure what you mean by thrash is a sub-genre of metal, shred refers to a style of soloing which is not exclusive to metal.you could try Iced Earth...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-S7MF6xhb4Like others have suggested, Mastodon. Not a huge fan but they fit your criteria more than any other band I can think ofhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwgqenxNUfs

Yeah man, there's definitely some good Metallica. I don't agree with the band's politics AT ALL, but they make some good music. Some.

I guess what I mean by thrash and shred is just what (to me) seems like mindless competitions in who can play guitar solos or drum the fastest. Its not a competition, people. A crazy fast riff here and there can be good, but I think its tasteless when the entire song is a race to see who can break the sound barrier on their kick drums or flying v guitar. There's no contrast to the speed demonry when its done that way, ya kno?

I know my criteria are kind of (overly) specific. I haven't had much luck finding metal that I like on my own, hence the thread.

I should also mention that I was really into Incubus (their old, old stuff was kind of metal-y. Kind of..). Deftones, Chevelle, Tool, some APC....

Of course, you're either trolling us, incapable of looking in the stickied Metal rec's thread, or just arrogantly stupid about what is good Metal. Hint: Around here, good Metal is usually based upon the quality of the songwriting and composition.

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I should also mention that I was really into Incubus (their old, old stuff was kind of metal-y. Kind of..). Deftones, Chevelle, Tool, some APC....

This is exactly what I'm talking about. You list off some Nu Metal or Alt. Hard Rock bands (as if we're supposed to take you seriously) and then are asking for similar bands that are "Metal". What?!

OT: If you like Katatonia, Opeth and Muse (as I do), then a few other suggestions:Ne ObliviscarisGuilt MachineBattle Circus (more rock but whatever, oh and free album)Porcupine Tree (start with Fear of a Blank Planet)Riverside (start with Second Life Syndrome)Karnivool (start with Sound Awake)Haken (start with Visions)TesseractSwallow The Sun (start with The Morning Never Came)

I'm also going to say Cynic, but it might be a bit early for that...

Sweet; hefty list.

Ne Obliviscaris is DOOOPEE. thanks for that one.

Not of a fan of the Guilt Machine vocals at all. The intros were promising on the songs I listened to... then splat.

Battle Circus are some weird mother****ers. But great music. Definately a muse-like vibe there. Definitely getting that album.

Porcupine Tree. Get out of my head. This band is too good. I'm gonna get that album as soon as I can.

Riverside's alright, I guess. Some parts of their songs were interesting... but it didn't work for me as a whole. I'll check em out more later.

Karnivool's good. I'm going to listen to the full album tonight.

The same goes for Haken.

Annnnd same for Tesseract. These are all good bands man. Kind of prog rock-ish?

Of course, you're either trolling us, incapable of looking in the stickied Metal rec's thread, or just arrogantly stupid about what is good Metal. Hint: Around here, good Metal is usually based upon the quality of the songwriting and composition.

I know he was trolling. And I was being sarcastic (why would I click a troll's links?).

Yeah man, I must be arrogantly stupid about good metal. DragonForce is obviously the pinnacle of human achievement. Anyone who has an opinion about music that differs from yours is obviously arrogant. In addition, anyone who ignores sticky metal rec threads must be stupid because its not as though a person might want opinions outside of the ones already posted there.You are god, and I will silently fellate you while cooking you a steak.