Revisiting The Rule of Law in the Era of Trump with Kate Shaw

Update: 2018-12-2527

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Since his first day in office, Donald Trump has been testing the boundaries of the law on multiple fronts. From his open hostility towards the investigation into his campaign’s involvement with a foreign adversary, to his policy prescriptions by way of executive order, to the way Donald Trump runs his own White House, this President has challenged the rule of law like no other recent President. So, in the case of Donald Trump v. the Law – who’s winning? And what can we learn from what’s happened so far? In this episode Chris gets answers from Kate Shaw, a law professor from the Cardozo School of Law who has worked in both the White House and the Supreme Court, and who also happens to be his wife. It also happened to be her birthday on the day this was recorded, and yes, that came up.

Hazel Goodwin

I enjoyed hearing you and this U.S. government-experienced lawyer, to whom you are married, talk about Trump and the Rule of law and why they have stumbled since refusing help from his predecessor. I particularly enjoyed her perspective and observations on their differences in presidential transition and startup.
Kate gave a really good explanation of the different out-of'-the-gate organization outcomes and effectiveness by comparing one knowledgeable in government processes, responsibilities and the law (Obama administration), to one which refuses transition assistance and has only small business legal and no government experience or knowledge of govt processes, procedures or separation of powers responsibilities, etc. (Trump). She made clear how the Trump "team" refused transition help resulting them stumbling in mass disarray from the minute they took over until the present day.