I don't think it really matters. The OWS made their bed, let them rot in it. The reason why they are going after the OWS is because the OWS messed up
and alienated anyone that wasn't an extreme leftist. Heck look at their "progressive caucus", and how racist and sexist it is. Basically a
"progressive caucus" is if you have light colored skin+ a male genitalia you have to speak last if at all. I guess that fit's in well with all the
male hating bigots and Caucasian hating bigots + all the self loathing mangina's that make up a certain percentage of OWS people.

They limited the amount of support they will ever receive because of their bigotry. So they where tolerated for a minute on the hopes that it
would fizzle out on it's own. That hasn't happened because of how homogenous the group think is among OWS. There is kind of a group think cult
mentally among OWS supporters and participants. That makes them highly dangerous in a very limited kind of way. Meaning if the OWS people were left
alone they would eventually resort to terrorism or a Charles Manson like night of knife play.

Add all that together, and any outrage at how OWS are being treated won't last beyond 30 day's when they are all mopped up. Like I said, this course
of events is a direct result of their stupidity and bigotry. Then again if they tried to appeal to a larger demography, they would of been shut down
much more quickly with lethal level of force. That would of triggered a series of events which could of lead to a very real insurrection. So take it
for what you will. But as it stands, OWS are just annoying squatters. The main risk with OWS, is that it fuels other, not so bigoted social movements.
That would be very bad for the fascist/communist's/progressive/banker/NWO'ers.

You sound like an ignorant anus who has the MSM mainlined in your arm.

OWS is the real deal and I am proud that it gets all you status quo loving, group thinkers
pissing in your panties and foaming at the mouth!

Originally posted by korathin
I don't think it really matters. The OWS made their bed, let them rot in it. The reason why they are going after the OWS is because the OWS messed up
and alienated anyone that wasn't an extreme leftist.

Your definition of extreme leftist being... what, exactly? I'm sorry chief, but looking at the rest of the post, you've not been alienated for not
being an "extreme leftist," you've alienated yourself with your rage, your ignorance, and your crappy attitude.

see? it's like talking to the authorities.
"the problem is in you peasant, not us".

Not really. It is the same path of Jim Jones + many others. But that would require a lot of stuff happening. My personnel beliefs I play a role I
guess. 1) Golden Rule, 2) Followed by the law of Mutuality. OWS=Male haters, me= male, so me hates OWS. It is really simple logic. You have to
remember that since the personnel is political, one must make the political personnel.

OWS=Male Haters?

Really?!

LMAO - where do you get this stuff? Do you just make it up as you go along?

BTW - I think the word you were looking for in your paragraph above is personal, not personnel. Changes the entire meaning. Or maybe you did mean
personnel... but I am not the grammar police - just trying to help.

Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
Ummm WE ARE LIVING IN A TOTALITARIAN SOCIETY!!!

uuuum well, einstein, why is that?
COULD it be because of 9/11, eh?
naaaah. it can't be. right?

now, take a look how many ows supporters support
9/11 truth. and also, in the very near future, check out
the official ows list of demands and see if they put 9/11
truth in that list.

but nooo. 9/11 truth is "too fringy". for #'s sake, even
noam chomsky (whom many of the ows supporters adore)
is lying about 9/11.

yeah, ows.
just like the authorities, they think sheeple are retarded and
too busy to pay some mother#ing attention. because, to the
elites (and ows is an elitist psyop, mainly because of timing and
some other telling details), the populus is nothing more than a
bunch of 5yr olds that are there to be yanked and manipulated with.

same # with ows. criticise ows? oh you must be krazzzy!
lol.

but then again i could be wrong.
and noam chomsky didn't lie about 9/11.
and saddam had wmds.
and barry did kill usama.

speak some 9/11 truth, drone.
see how far will that get you considering ows official demands list.
and see how many of those establishment fake leftists (chomsky,
moore, zinn, zizic etc) will simply jump off the ows bandwagon
if 9/11 truth became a part of the official demands list.

see?
what we're dealing here with are fake leftgatekeepers.
mind you, much better choice than the babyseal clubbing
neocons, but just like in the bush days, these fake left
gatekeepers will be talking about illegal wars and lies about
wmds, but not many will dare call 9/11 an inside job.

why?
because they are part of the establishment.
anyone remembers charlie veitch?
same #, kids.

I wonder why the camera always starts rolling when the police respond. Why is it never rolling when the police are attacked first? Don't get me
wrong... I know there are A LOT of cops out there that abuse their power and authority, and they violate people's civil rights daily, but I want both
sides of the stories mentioned in the OP. Also, who cares if that guy is a poet, that has nothing to do with anything. I find the fact that you call
Jon Leibowitz (AKA Jon Stewart) the most trusted man in America laughable. First, his show airs on a comedy channel, and second, if he is indeed the
most trusted man in America then what does that say about America?

I really should stop reading these OWS threads, they're full of right-wing idiots who don't understand the problems America faces, the typical
contradictory hypocrites who scream aloud about the constitution while cheering on the macing cops.

Then you have all the idiots who believe what their nightly news tells them, while forgetting that the media refused to report this for over two
weeks. And these people are supposedly still to be trusted? Most here seem to bash the MSM when it suits them, then swallow their BS and use it as
"evidence" when it suits their argument too.

Once again, I think you'll find that the majority who support the OWS movement actually reads, listens, investigates and isn't a politically
brainwashed zombie cheering for their side.
Those who speak out against it seem idiotic, lacking in the facts, repeating the propaganda, trusting in their right-wing ideals while never actually
facing up to the problems society faces.

A good example of this is the constant suggestion by those against OWS that they're all "socialists" and want "hand outs".
These same people conveniently forget that the bankers have had handouts consistently over the last four years. They conveniently ignore that
capitalism means the failure of a business that fails. They ignore the very definition of Fascism. They demand that all social welfare be removed
while ignoring history and why these systems were put in place to begin with. They refuse to explain how they would care for their elderly, treat kids
with cancer, educate the poor, or what they would do with the millions of homeless people the removal of such systems would create. They scream about
"mixed messages" while ignoring the fact that there is more than one problem, and that there is no leadership behind an organic movement.

There's something pretty disgusting about an American who claims to love liberty, freedom, their constitution, all the while cheering on the baton
wielding officer because they're beating up someone who looks different to them, has different political opinions and sees that something is very
wrong with their country.

The very fact that so many people have been attacked by these "Police Officers" (and I use that term VERY LOOSELY) and there are still those out
there who think there is not a problem is truly worrying.
Where's the patriotism when an Iraqi vet is almost killed at a protest? Where's the outrage that OAP's are being maced? Wheres the condemnation
that the press are being restricted?
And these people STILL have the audacity to call themselves American.

The NYPD tried that one on the very first instance of Police brutality against three girls on a sidewallk. They claimed that the footage was edited to
only show their response.
You know what happened?
Another video was quickly released showing that incident from five different cameras, and more footage from an hour before that incident leading up to
it. There's a video out there that follows the march from the start, up until they were attacked by the rabid NYPD.
The NYPD were proven to be lying.

You can check out plenty of footage on YT, and you can watch a lot of the protests live also.

Sometimes it starts rolling when the police begin to break the law because people want to document it. Sometimes cameras have been recording
previously but are cut to the reason for title of the video. Are you going to watch 15 minutes previous or even 5 minutes, 1 minute? I call it getting
to the point.

I think he missed the part where a woman at OWS was raped and a few others groped, when they reported to police they were told to take it to the
General Assemblies so the safe zones were created and patrolled the heaviest by security groups to ensure their safety. LGBT people are everywhere are
targeted by hate, with the inability to tell anyone to leave, the negligence of the NYPD this is what OWS did to protect people in order that they be
abe to excercise their 1st Amendment rights.

He should probably at least look to see if his news sources are correct before regurgitating them.

I don't think it really matters. The OWS made their bed, let them rot in it. The reason why they are going after the OWS is because the OWS messed up
and alienated anyone that wasn't an extreme leftist. Heck look at their "progressive caucus", and how racist and sexist it is. Basically a
"progressive caucus" is if you have light colored skin+ a male genitalia you have to speak last if at all. I guess that fit's in well with all the
male hating bigots and Caucasian hating bigots + all the self loathing mangina's that make up a certain percentage of OWS people.

They limited the amount of support they will ever receive because of their bigotry. So they where tolerated for a minute on the hopes that it
would fizzle out on it's own. That hasn't happened because of how homogenous the group think is among OWS. There is kind of a group think cult
mentally among OWS supporters and participants. That makes them highly dangerous in a very limited kind of way. Meaning if the OWS people were left
alone they would eventually resort to terrorism or a Charles Manson like night of knife play.

Add all that together, and any outrage at how OWS are being treated won't last beyond 30 day's when they are all mopped up. Like I said, this course
of events is a direct result of their stupidity and bigotry. Then again if they tried to appeal to a larger demography, they would of been shut down
much more quickly with lethal level of force. That would of triggered a series of events which could of lead to a very real insurrection. So take it
for what you will. But as it stands, OWS are just annoying squatters. The main risk with OWS, is that it fuels other, not so bigoted social movements.
That would be very bad for the fascist/communist's/progressive/banker/NWO'ers.

Wow, watch a little more Fox why don't you...they give u your own show yet, or u just like repeating the misinfomation your fed?

The tea party bozos can disrupt every town hall meeting to the point of bringing business to a hault, and yet these people standing on a sidewalk
deserve to be spit upon by those supposed to be there to protect your rights for free speach?

How about having a real discussion on the issues at hand, or has Fox brainwashed u to the point that anyone not quoting "O'Really" must be facist
communist?

Wake up! Our country hasn't been a democracy for a long time now, and never will be again as long as the voices of the people continue to be drowned
out by corporations lining our politicians pockets.

As far as Im concerned, the only thing (the majority of) OWS has done has been acting like a bunch of victimized, spoiled children. This is coming
from someone who doesn't even watch the MSM. I said it before: they made it easy to be ridiculed by the way they acted. Now i don't even agree with
the Tea Party - well at least its most recent iteration, but at least they did it correctly. That's what OWS should have been (also minus the
socialism).

The point is that they ruined all credibility they could have had, and sadly the credibility of some of their more intelligent ideas, by acting the
way they did/are. They turned the public against them by occupying and trashing public spaces.

The amount of television you must have watched to have non-existent categories ingrained within head and a false separation between other individuals
who have common ideologies/goals in mind, quite frankly is unfathomable. If your inability to distinguish between common ideas and generalized beliefs
is that bias then history will surely repeat itself and the Corporate CEO's coming to power will institute policy much worse than German Fascism of
the 30's.

While so many people in this thread are defending their positions to the death and being absolutely unable and unwilling to even consider the other
sides opinion and facts I am on the outside of the fishbowl looking in and seeing exactly how this is all going to go down.

It isn't hard to see how a civil war could be ignited with soo many people divided.If these discussions are any indication, it has become clear to
me that my neighbor will be more than willing to turn me in to the police/DHS
for expressing my support for the OWS movement and vocalizing my opinion that our government needs
to be overthrown.

These people who are so hellbent on defending the status quoe,.......
they are your neighbors,your bosses,your friends, your family.
YES, they will turn on your ass in a heartbeat real soon.
Soon, it will become a crime to identify with this domestic extremists/terrorist movement called OWS.
Then where will you be?

These people defending the status quoe are the ones you need to be worried about yet they have nothing to fear from us. We are trying to bring about
positive change for the future and do you see what scathing attacks it evokes from people??????

It is amazing the things that are being said from them.
It literally sounds like I have my T.V. on and tuned into FOX if I read it aloud.
They don't aknowledge the fact that they are repeaters.
It is one thing to quote someone but quite another to not even have the decency to give proper credit.
Where I come from, that is called Plagarism.

Again, it is quite easy to peer into the future and see where this is all headed.

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