the tree piece? i have read from the fit issues from both styles of vass trees. dunno, why this is the case. i'm happy with my lasted trees from the producer. personally i don't like the sl, but this is just a preference...

exactly. vash has a very high beauty ratio...

well to be frank, i would prefer trees done suck as my G&G BS ones that are hinged, thro i do like the 3pc ones and have a set of vass ones plus my paps ones too (G&G ones are pending). but in any case the best ones from vass are the sl's

well to be frank, i would prefer trees done suck as my G&G BS ones that are hinged, thro i do like the 3pc ones and have a set of vass ones plus my paps ones too (G&G ones are pending). but in any case the best ones from vass are the sl's

No.
Spring tree is longer so it fill out shoe better.lt the way it is with vass.

as i said, it's a pity. nvm.

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Originally Posted by Son Of Saphir

shell cordovan shoe wrinkle more than calf.
Need stiff tree to stretch out shoe for shell,
vass spring tree best for this.
You case is different.
Vass tree not best.
3 piece good for calf.
Spring tree best for shell.

why is my case different?

a three piece is stiffer than the sl, no question. sorry, i don't buy into your argument. sl is good for travel trees made of balsa or other lightweight wood. that's all. mr. materna approved to this

a three piece is stiffer than the sl, no question. sorry, i don't buy into your argument. sl is good for travel trees made of balsa or other lightweight wood. that's all. mr. materna approved to this

Me understand what you say.
With vass tree it different from proper bespoke maker.
With vass the spring tree stiffer and better.
With Materna it different,
he do proper fit 3 piece tree that much much better than any vass tree ever.
Me not say spring tree is better in general.
Me say spring tree is better with vass.
Vass tree with spring far from perfect (even on full size),
it not fill out shoe good,
but it better than 3 piece from vass.

Wait - I think I got the terminology wrong here... The trees are probably spring actually.... I had in mind that spring-loaded had the metal tube and you had to push the spring in to fit it in the shoes. But now that I think of it, the Vass trees I get probably do have a spring in there, although the hinging piece is wood. Sorry if that was confusing...

Wait - I think I got the terminology wrong here... The trees are probably spring actually.... I had in mind that spring-loaded had the metal tube and you had to push the spring in to fit it in the shoes. But now that I think of it, the Vass trees I get probably do have a spring in there, although the hinging piece is wood. Sorry if that was confusing...