Darth_Lukecash:I liked it a lot. It Acheived this without a 3D ticket price.

Of couse, it wasnt as good as the Dark Knight. But it was a good eding to a great trillogy.

About the same way I felt. I knew there was no way it would have been good as The Dark Knight but a very satisfying conclusion (minus a gripe here and there).

Now I'm curious to know what is Nolan's next project. Rumor is the next one will be something new or a movie about Howard Hughes. I read some article that Nolan wanted to direct the Aviator but lost it to Scorsese. So now he wants to do one about Hughes life, beginning with when he started going crazy.

alwaysjaded:About the same way I felt. I knew there was no way it would have been good as The Dark Knight but a very satisfying conclusion (minus a gripe here and there).

All I know is that I haven't seen a bad film from him yet. They have been good, solid films. Some of them have been downright fantastic like "The Prestige" I think you saw a bit of his fascination of Howard Hughes with Bruce Wayne.

I think the only thing I can complain about was that he did pull a cinematic "cheat" Otherwise, I look at it as an "Alternate Timeline" Batman. The Dark Knight Rises was Nolanverse version of Millers Dark Knight Returns. Except unlike Millers version, things didn't get obviously worse, but subtly worse. At least Nolan Batman could look out and honestly thing that crime was down and evil was contained.

Instead of a Robins death to send him into hiding, it was Rachel's death. It's all groovy. In fact, it makes sense that he would stop after loosing a love interest, because she was targeted by the Mob/Joker because of Batman.

All I know is that I haven't seen a bad film from him yet. They have been good, solid films. Some of them have been downright fantastic like "The Prestige" I think you saw a bit of his fascination of Howard Hughes with Bruce Wayne.

Yea, I agree. He's one of the few directors that I will go see just because his name is attached. I own them all and it always amazes me how many people have never seen The Prestige. I've loaned that movie out to so many people who've came back and told me that they loved it and didn't know how they had missed it. And Bowie gives one hell of a performance. The first time I saw it I saw his name on the credit roll, did a double take and watched it again. That flick made me really read into Tesla after I watched it and I would love to see a movie about Tesla/Edison that was in the right hands. I seem to recall they were doing one but I can't remember.

I think the only thing I can complain about was that he did pull a cinematic "cheat" Otherwise, I look at it as an "Alternate Timeline" Batman. The Dark Knight Rises was Nolanverse version of Millers Dark Knight Returns. Except unlike Millers version, things didn't get obviously worse, but subtly worse. At least Nolan Batman could look out and honestly thing that crime was down and evil was contained.

Yup. I've always maintained that I've always taken the trilogy as just like a graphic novel, in the sense that it was just another authors take on an established property. That's why I never cared about all the issues people had with it not following canon. Some of the best stories about established characters were stand alone (Red Son comes to mind).

And TDKR is really a better flick the second time you see it. I still had a few minor gripes (wish Bane would have been more used but I realize the movie was more about closure with Bruce) but still loved it. I just couldn't shake the feeling while watching it that the movie would have been a lot different had Ledger not died. But I still maintain that it is my favorite trilogy.

Finally saw it for the first time last night (saw it fake IMAX). It's a very paradoxical movie, in that it's a great end to a trilogy, but only an okay film in its own right.

Also, it felt like Batman was barely in it, which is kind of odd considering that it's supposed to be a Batman movie.

Michael Caine as Alfred was phenomenal in every one of the all-too-few scenes he had, but it felt like this movie belonged to Anne Hathaway in the same way that The Dark Knight belonged to Heath Ledger, even though DKR was more of an ensemble piece so Catwoman didn't dominate it the way Joker had. Every scene Selina Kyle appears in, she commands and/or steals.

On the downside, the audio mix kind of sucked, it was hard to make out the dialog (which might because I have hearing issues), but I felt my seat reverberate like crazy from the bass when the Batwing first appears in the first real Batman chase sequence. My other nitpick is that the reveal of a character's legal name was a groanworthy moment in an otherwise excellent denouement.

Mugato:The Avengers had a much wider audience than DKR and is more prone to repeat business because it's lighter and more kid friendly. DKR was never going to make as much as The Avengers.

And to be honest, the Avengers was "New" The Dark Knight Rises was the third film in a series. People will get tired of a concept after awhile. alwaysjaded:And TDKR is really a better flick the second time you see it. I still had a few minor gripes (wish Bane would have been more used but I realize the movie was more about closure with Bruce) but still loved it. I just couldn't shake the feeling while watching it that the movie would have been a lot different had Ledger not died. But I still maintain that it is my favorite trilogy.

I think Heaths Ledgers death derailed their plans. He was going to be a major part.

My only complaint was showing Batman in the cockpit, right before the explosion. Had they just omitted that then it would have been reasonable to think that he ejected way before the explosion.

If you calculate the earnings of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, you can see that the shootout clearly affected the income. Let me elaborate.

Begins did 55.1% domestic and 44.9% foreign (wordy movies tend to make less abroad)TDK did 53.2% domestic and 46.8% foreignTDKR was completely reversed just 43% domestic and 57% foreign and it was probably the wordiest of the three.

Clearly the shootout affected the domestic outcome.

TDKR had a tracking for opening with between 190-223 million, so it was going to be around Avengers income or just above it and doing it without 3D.After the shootout, opening weekend went down to 160 million. Which is still good as it's the top earning 2D movie of all time.

So if the Aurora tragedy had not happened, TDKR would have netted 1,225 million dollars. Which is still below Avengers, but like somebody said, Avengers had more going for it in terms of audience.

alwaysjaded:Now I'm curious to know what is Nolan's next project. Rumor is the next one will be something new or a movie about Howard Hughes. I read some article that Nolan wanted to direct the Aviator but lost it to Scorsese. So now he wants to do one about Hughes life, beginning with when he started going crazy.

Darth_Lukecash:My only complaint was showing Batman in the cockpit, right before the explosion. Had they just omitted that then it would have been reasonable to think that he ejected way before the explosion.

Superman saved him. At the end of Man of Steel, there's gonna be a scene after the credits. Superman is going to be in a mortal situation, Kryptonite maybe, and someone is going to save him. A shadow figure. A voice that says "We're even."

rocky_howard:Darth_Lukecash: My only complaint was showing Batman in the cockpit, right before the explosion. Had they just omitted that then it would have been reasonable to think that he ejected way before the explosion.

Superman saved him. At the end of Man of Steel, there's gonna be a scene after the credits. Superman is going to be in a mortal situation, Kryptonite maybe, and someone is going to save him. A shadow figure. A voice that says "We're even."

rocky_howard:Darth_Lukecash: My only complaint was showing Batman in the cockpit, right before the explosion. Had they just omitted that then it would have been reasonable to think that he ejected way before the explosion.

Superman saved him. At the end of Man of Steel, there's gonna be a scene after the credits. Superman is going to be in a mortal situation, Kryptonite maybe, and someone is going to save him. A shadow figure. A voice that says "We're even."

That's how the DCMovie Universe starts

Shouldn't Superman have tried to save Gotham from the terrorists instead of just saving Batman at the end? I know he's a dick and all, but still.

alwaysjaded:Darth_Lukecash: I liked it a lot. It Acheived this without a 3D ticket price.

Of couse, it wasnt as good as the Dark Knight. But it was a good eding to a great trillogy.

About the same way I felt. I knew there was no way it would have been good as The Dark Knight but a very satisfying conclusion (minus a gripe here and there).

Now I'm curious to know what is Nolan's next project. Rumor is the next one will be something new or a movie about Howard Hughes. I read some article that Nolan wanted to direct the Aviator but lost it to Scorsese. So now he wants to do one about Hughes life, beginning with when he started going crazy.

nikku88:rocky_howard: Darth_Lukecash: My only complaint was showing Batman in the cockpit, right before the explosion. Had they just omitted that then it would have been reasonable to think that he ejected way before the explosion.

Superman saved him. At the end of Man of Steel, there's gonna be a scene after the credits. Superman is going to be in a mortal situation, Kryptonite maybe, and someone is going to save him. A shadow figure. A voice that says "We're even."

That's how the DCMovie Universe starts

Shouldn't Superman have tried to save Gotham from the terrorists instead of just saving Batman at the end? I know he's a dick and all, but still.

Faith Logic Passion:rocky_howard: Darth_Lukecash: My only complaint was showing Batman in the cockpit, right before the explosion. Had they just omitted that then it would have been reasonable to think that he ejected way before the explosion.

Superman saved him. At the end of Man of Steel, there's gonna be a scene after the credits. Superman is going to be in a mortal situation, Kryptonite maybe, and someone is going to save him. A shadow figure. A voice that says "We're even."

That's how the DCMovie Universe starts

That would be so many levels of awesome.

I'd like that, but I'm betting on "Batman escaped while that building blew up just before he flew the bomb out to sea."

The girl I saw it with is not a comic fan. She actually isn't even much of a movie fan, so I'm not sure what I was thinking. While I'm a mild comic book fan at best, I really enjoyed this trilogy. Sure, you can nitpick certain details, but come on... it's a comic book action / drama. Roll with it and have fun. I thought they did a great job.

Darth_Lukecash:Apparently The Dark Knight was outlined as two films after Batman Begins-which were made into one.

Nolan wasn't sure if he was coming back to another film.. Heaths death happened during the editing phase- so any ideas or thoughts about him being included in a sequel, died with him.

Hmm. I don't see what more they could have done with the Joker. I mean sure, he could escape from Arkham again and pull some more shennannegans like in the comic book but that's sort of redundant for a movie series with only 3 parts. Maybe a cameo, like he could have been the judge rather than Scarecrow but that would have made him someone else's minion and I don't see that either. Oh well, guess we'll never know.

T.rex:For me, it was way better than Dark Knight, which I actually think is the 3rd best of the Nolan trilogy. Heath Ledger was the only thing good about it. The TDKR, i feel, is Nolan's best film.

I think the story is overall more interesting, but to me it had some flaws:

1) There was some narrative issues - the John Blake "I know it's you!" scene in Act I was the big one for me. Also, the montage was too quick for Bruce's retrain in The Pit, they sold it short. The story just wasn't as taught as TDK, though I don't think there was much fluff.2) There is no obvious theme. BB: Fear. TDK: Chaos. TDKR: Death? Fear of Death? Rebirth? Rise?

Yeah, I know. I'm not a fan of the "ambiguous ending" (which when any filmmaker does that I find that to be cowardly; it was one of my bigger complaints after Inception as well), and I've read the fan theories that Alfred imagined the thing with Bruce and Selina to give him closure (a concept that I find pointless in the context of the movie). So I'm inclined to believe there was an escape.

So I think that moment was just a moment of over-indulgence by the filmmaker. The "say goodbye to the hero" shot. But it doesn't jive with the final shot of the movie, IMO.