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Knack and Killzone don't really seem like a big improvement over last gen. Killzone is the same as before, only 10 times prettier, and with some cool improvements to the multiplayer. Looks great and I'll pick it up for the console, but will not pick up the console for it.

Knack I haven't really followed closely, but doesn't really look interesting to me at all.

Infamous looks extremely gorgeous and smooth for an open world game, plus the destruction of the environment is PERMANENT, which is something you don't really see in any current gen game.

I was generically interested in Killzone just because I found 2 and 3 to be fun and really enjoyed the Mercenary open beta on the Vita. That video made me legitimately excited to play that game. Thank you very much for sharing the link.

It's hard to describe the reason why it feels proper next gen... Totalbiscuit said the exact same thing about Infamous: SS and he couldn't describe it either. But it feels like it has mechanics that would've been impossible last gen, even if it had a massive graphical downgrade.

For me, I think it is because you can feel the effort that Sucker Punch is putting into it. They could have popped this baby out in time for the launch but decided to wait and put in the time to do it right. That kind of passion doesn't go unnoticed, IMO.

That's odd, I've actually seen much more about Killzone that seems more next gen than inFamous so far. The past Killzones were corridor shooters, whereas this one is much more open with stages that let you tackle objectives in any order. Add to that the ability to traverse across these areas either by climbing or via zipline and it seems even more of an upgrade. The OWL and other abilities like the sonar are also a significant change from the last games and provide a ton more tactical options going forward.

inFamous, on the other hand, while looking amazing, does not appear to be anything but a super refined version of the last inFamous title...unless I'm missing where the real next gen things come into play.

Oh, so its just about looks and really has nothing to do with gameplay - for you. That's fine, and I would absolutely agree, but for me, gameplay evolution on top of fantastic visuals is really where I draw the line.

For me, Killzone is more of an upgrade over current gen than Second Son so far seems to be. The new push for so many tactical abilities in the combat, the open nature of the stages giving you the option to approach them however you want in whatever order, and the huge customization of the multiplayer warzones really makes me feel like next gen starts with Killzone.

Based on the demo unit in best buy knack for ps4 was very uninteresting. It looks like a PS3 game, terrible aliasing and not fun at all. It has single handedly shaken my perception of the PS4. They better get some better games on those demo units, fast.

If an old build of a simple action platformer on a demo station that can never actually recreate what you're actually going to see at home shakes your perception of the console, then you obviously didn't have much of a solid grasp on it.

I'd honestly skip this generation if I were you. You're just going to be disappointed. Sorry :-(

Hint: The games are never that impressive aside from, "Ooh, it's new and it's out!" The difference was you grew up on reddit being fed shit about aliasing and framerate while that wasn't exactly everyday conversation back in the olden days.

No, my age has nothing to do with this conversation. I'm old enough to have seen the past 3 generations. Aliasing has been a problem since 3D started. If I've learned anything from reddit its that people like you make assumptions about another person because their opinion differs from your own. The demo unit is there to entice me to buy a PS4, which I was already leaning on doing. It did not do that and had the opposite effect. I gave my opinion when someone asked about knack. End of story.

If I've learned anything from reddit its that people like you make assumptions about another person because their opinion differs from your own.

It's not that your opinions differs, it's that your statement seems oblivious. You sound like a caveman that's just been thawed out if you're expecting to see something amazing from a launch title demo unit.

It's not there to entice you to buy the game. It's there to entice kids and casual gamers, not people on reddit who'll look up long plays on Youtube. You seem oblivious to the fact that most people will just be amazed to see a PS4, and that's all that really matters.

Most of all, it seems tremendously fun to play. I was planning on buying the PS4 on launch day but I think I'm gonna wait a while until Second Son launches. With Watch_Dogs delayed I don't have any other game that I desperately need right now.