I once pointed out, and will mention again, that the Colts are not as dumb with the salary cap as we often think they are. Sure they're chokers, but they field a legitimate team in the salary cap era each year.

I once pointed out, and will mention again, that the Colts are not as dumb with the salary cap as we often think they are. Sure they're chokers, but they field a legitimate team in the salary cap era each year.

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I agree with you they know how the salary cap should be done.
Bet they find a way to keep james too.

When calculating the "salary" for the 30% Rule, don't you have to include not only the base salary, but also the amount prorated for that year from the 2006 and 2007 option bonuses?

Thus, for 30% rule calculations, the "salary" in your last example would be:

2006: $5.005 million
2007: $9.840 million

My math isn't as good as it used to be, but that looks like more than a 30% increase to me.

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If you are right and you probably are, then only explanation then, is that Manning gave up some money in 2007 or gave up some money in 2006 or both. How else could the Colts save $5 million on the 2006 cap and have the contract approved??

If you are right and you probably are, then only explanation then, is that Manning gave up some money in 2007 or gave up some money in 2006 or both. How else could the Colts save $5 million on the 2006 cap and have the contract approved??

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Say it ain't so. I think some people on this board might roll over and die if they hear Peyton gave money up.

If you are right and you probably are, then only explanation then, is that Manning gave up some money in 2007 or gave up some money in 2006 or both. How else could the Colts save $5 million on the 2006 cap and have the contract approved??

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Just thought of a way. The Colts added a LTBE incentive when that he is not likely to earn to Manning's contract for the 2007 year

If you are right and you probably are, then only explanation then, is that Manning gave up some money in 2007 or gave up some money in 2006 or both. How else could the Colts save $5 million on the 2006 cap and have the contract approved??

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I don't know. But, my hunch is that teams are probably using some buyout option at the team's choice. For example, take money out of Manning's deal and then put in a buyout option clause that restores the "x" million dollars he gave up if an option to terminate is exercised before a given date. This sort of thing might be a way to guarantee money that doesn't trigger the "guarantee" provisions of the salary cap because it is a team option.

The Colts could be under the cap, at the cap, over the cap... who gives a rat's tookus. Why waste time talking about them like they're an actual concern? Let me know when Manning lives up to his potential and the Colts actually win the AFC; then I'll be concerned about them. They can't beat the Pats, and they apparently can't beat the Steelers either. File them under "I" for "insignificant until proven otherwise"....

The Colts could be under the cap, at the cap, over the cap... who gives a rat's tookus. Why waste time talking about them like they're an actual concern? Let me know when Manning lives up to his potential and the Colts actually win the AFC; then I'll be concerned about them. They can't beat the Pats, and they apparently can't beat the Steelers either. File them under "I" for "insignificant until proven otherwise"....

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True Dat

and what new rules will Polian sneak through to further aid the Colts and Manling in the quest for "the ring!!"....Polian should invest in a laxative to ease Peytie's pucker ring