Joyce Meyer - Biography

Joyce Meyer
is a Charismatic
"Christian" woman preacher. Known for her "no
nonsense" and "tell it like it is" style. Meyer and
her husband Dave have four grown children, and live outside St.
Louis, Missouri. Her so called ministry is headquartered in the
St. Louis suburb of Fenton, Missouri.

Joyce Meyer - False Preacher, False
Teacher and Heretic

Meyer teaches that Jesus went to
Hell to pay for our sins

"What Should You
Believe?" is the title to chapter 4 (page 35) and the chapter I
will focus on. Since the book's title implies that its purpose is to
help someone to make "The Most Important Decision You Will Ever
Make," we can assume that this chapter will discuss the facts
whereby they may make an intelligent decision.

Joyce
writes, "During that time He entered hell, where you and I
deserved to go (legally) because of our sin. He paid the price there.
... no plan was too extreme. ... Jesus paid on the
cross and in hell." (Underlining in the original) On page
36, she continues, "God rose up from His throne and said to
demon powers tormenting the sinless Son of God, 'Let Him go.'
Then the resurrection power of Almighty God went through hell and
filled Jesus. ... He was resurrected from the dead - the first
born-again man." (Underlining in the original.)

Meyer teaches that Jesus
went to Hell to be tormented by demons to pay for our sins. This is
outrageously heretical. Jesus died once and for all on the cross for
our sins, he did not descend to Hell to be tormented by demons to
again offer up payment of our sins.

"There
is no choice of anyone going to heaven unless they believe this truth
I am presenting. You cannot go to heaven unless you
believe with all your heart that Jesus took your place in hell."
(Underlining added.)

So if we don't believe in
a (heretical) layman's private opinion, we are going to be damned?
Jesus indeed went to Hell, or rather, the Limbo of the Fathers, but
not to pay the price of our sins once again, but to redeem the elect
of the Old Testament Law.

1
Peter 3:18-20, "Because
Christ also died once for our sins, the just for
the unjust: that he might offer us to God, being put
to death indeed in the flesh, but enlivened in the spirit.
In which also coming he preached to those spirits that
were in prison: Which had been some time incredulous, when
they waited for the patience of God in the days of Noe, when the
ark was a building: wherein a few, that is, eight souls, were saved
by water."

Jesus didn't ascend into
Heaven until after His Resurrection, as John 20:17 proves. The
Apostles' Creed correctly states that Jesus was crucified, died and
was buried; He descended into Hell; on the third day He rose again
from the dead and then ascended into Heaven. He didn't ascend to
Heaven until after His Resurrection, and He descended into Hell on
the day of His death. What was this Hell? It was Abraham's bosom, the
waiting place of the just of the Old Testament.

As Haydock Bible Commentary
puts it:

"Ver.
19.In which (to wit, soul or spirit) also
he came, and preached to those spirits who were in prison.
The true and common interpretation of this place seems to be, that
the soul of Christ, after the separation from the body and before the
resurrection, descended to a place in the interior parts of the
earth, called hell in that which we call the apostles' creed,
(sometimes called Abraham's bosom, sometimes Limbus Patrum [Limbo of
the Fathers], a place where were detained all the souls of the patriarchs,
prophets, and just men, as it were in prison) and preached to these
spirits in this prison; i.e. brought them this happy news, that he who
was their Redeemer was now come to be their deliverer, and that at his
glorious ascension they should enter with him into heaven, where none
could enter before our Redeemer, who opened as it were heaven's gates.

Prison.
See here a proof of a third place, or middle state of souls: for
these spirits in prison, to whom Christ went to preach after his
death, were not in heaven, nor yet in the hell of the damned; because
heaven is no prison, and Christ did not go to preach to the damned.
(Challoner)

St.
Augustine, in his 99th epistle, confesses that this text is replete
with difficulties. This he declares is clear, beyond all doubt, that
Jesus Christ descended in soul after his death into the regions
below, and concludes with these words: Quis ergo nisi infidelis
negaverit fuisse apud inferos Christum? In this prison souls would
not be detained unless they were indebted to divine justice, nor
would salvation be preached to them unless they were in a state that
was capable of receiving salvation."

Meyer heretically teaches that Jesus
lost His Divinity

Paul
not only warned the Corinthian church of accepting "another
gospel," he warned them of accepting "another Jesus."
(2 Corinthians 11:4) On page 38, Joyce writes,

"For
three days He was alone paying for our sins as "only
a man."
(underlining in the original)

On
page 37, she writes,

"As
God's Spirit left Him."

Here
again she regurgitates the teachings of other heretics before her.
It's all part of the myth of Jesus losing His Deity on the cross,
going to Hell as a mere man, being reborn in Hell, receiving back His
Deity and thus becoming God once again.

It
is heresy to say that at some point in time, God ceased being Triune
in nature. When the nature of Jesus is changed, "another Jesus"
is produced. This is the gospel of Antichrist, the Dividing of Jesus:

1
John 4:2-3, "Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is
come in the flesh, is of God: And
every spirit that dissolveth Jesus is not of God: and this is
Antichrist,
of whom you have heard that he cometh..."

Both definitions of
Antichrist deal with a denial of the truth about who Jesus Christ
is. The truth about Our Lord Jesus Christ and the truth about the
Most Holy Trinity are the very foundations of the Christian religion.
They are the most important truths in the universe.

This
is why the early councils of the Church condemned with the utmost
vigor even the slightest deviation from the truth about Jesus Christ
or the Trinity. And this is why the greatest enemies of Jesus Christ
in history were not those men who caused Christ's followers temporal
harm, but those who were most effective and blasphemous in attacking
the truth about Jesus Christ – which is the very foundation of
one's eternal salvation.

One
of the first and most notorious men in Church history to pervert the
doctrine of the Incarnation was the 5th century heretic Nestorius,
who was condemned by the Council of Ephesus in 431. The case of the
heretic Nestorius is very important in identifying the gospel of
Antichrist.

Nestorius
was the heretic who tried to dissolve Jesus (1 John 4:2-3), and he
did so by perverting the truth of the Incarnation. And
by dissolving or dividing Our Lord Jesus Christ into two persons,
Nestorius's Antichrist doctrine logically resulted in the worship of
two Christs, and introduced, as a consequence, THE
WORSHIP OF MAN!

Pope
Vigilius, Second Council of Constantinople, 553: "The
holy synod of Ephesus… has pronounced sentence against the
heresy of Nestorius… and all those who might later…
adopt the same opinions as he held… They express these falsehoods
against the true dogmas of the Church, OFFERING WORSHIP TO TWO SONS,
trying to divide that which cannot be divided, AND INTRODUCING
TO BOTH HEAVEN AND EARTH THE OFFENCE OF THE WORSHIP OF MAN. But
the sacred band of heavenly spirits worship along with us only
one Lord Jesus Christ."

I was notified by a personal testimony
that Joyce was corrected by a "pastor" about this book in
which this Antichrist heresy was written, before he would allow her
to speak at his church and as a result, made some changes in her book.
The "Second Printing - May, 1993" edition was definitely
revised but found that no mention is made of the fact. (Up to this
point, I have been quoting from the "First Printing - August,
1991" edition.) The only chapter that appears to have been
changed is chapter four. Some of the Born-Again Jesus Gospel was
altered or deleted but the bulk of it remained.

Assuming Mrs. Meyer
believes that error has been deleted and that the book is now clean,
this prompts me to ask: Why hasn't she warned anyone to trash the old
book? Why hasn't she recalled the original edition? Why hasn't she
made a note in the new edition of her errors in the previous edition?
Why has she opted to let the changes go by quietly unnoticed? Why
hasn't she publicly recant her heresy when she had publicly taught
heresy?

Or were the changes simply
insignificant? Not really worth mentioning? In reality, the changes
were very significant. She deleted the following bold faced words
from the second printing,

"As
God's Spirit left Him."(page 37)

"...this
truth I am presenting." (page 37)

"Jesus
took your place in hell." (page 37)

"...the
Father filled His spirit again. For three days He was alone
paying for our sins as "only
a man." Theprice had to be paid by someone just like us." (page 38,
underlining in the original)

"He
went to hell to pay the debt you owed,"(page 4 1)

These deleted portions are
indeed significant. But perhaps they are merely minor issues in
Joyce's mind. If that's her thinking, I must ask, is "another
gospel" which sends the lost to Hell insignificant?

However, even though
Meyer's did delete some passages, she is still teaching in the book
that Jesus was in Hell "only a man."

In all, her book is still
poisoned with heresy. If she had a grip on the Gospel (as the title
of the book declares), she would have publicly repented of all the
error and heresy published in the first printing, renounced the Jesus
only a man doctrine, and denounced those who still teach it.

Some would argue that it's
no big deal. Let's check to see what the word of God has to say.

"I
wonder that you are so soon removed from him that called you into the
grace of Christ, unto another gospel. Which is not another,
only there are some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of
Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to
you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be
anathema [condemned]. As we said before, so now I say again:
If any one preach to you a gospel, besides that which you have
received, let him be anathema [condemned]."
Galatians 1:6-9

Meyer says she's not a sinner

Her now-unavailable taped
message, "What Happened from the Cross to The Throne?"
Meyer continued to teach the "Born-Again Jesus" doctrine.
In this message, Meyer claims to have received the Baptism of the
Spirit and sometime afterward felt a strange "flipping and
turning" insider her body (stomach). She claimed that this
experience led to a greater understanding of salvation and a greater
revelation of Jesus' "spirit death" in hell. Meyer, like
many others in the Charismatic
movement, believes that Jesus suffered in hell under the power of
demons.

Joyce Meyer also claimed
that she no longer sins in the same taped message:

"I'm
going to tell you something folks, I didn't stop sinning until I
finally got it through my thick head I wasn't a sinner
anymore. And the religious world thinks that's heresy and
they want to hang you for it. But the Bible says that I'm righteous
and I can't be righteous and be a sinner at the same time…
All I was ever taught to say was, 'I'm a poor, miserable sinner.' I
am not poor, I am not miserable and I am not a sinner. That is a
lie from the pit of hell. That is what I was and if I still am
then Jesus died in vain. Amen?"

However, the bible is
clear, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and
the truth is not in us" (1 John 1:8). However, Meyer says that
this teaching is a lie from the pit of Hell and that if it was true,
Jesus died in vain.

In her statement, Meyer
rightly believed that she was a sinner and sinned before. But now,
because she thinks she's not a sinner, she doesn't sin anymore.
According to that logic, taken to it's only logical conclusion,
murder is not murder if I believe or think that I didn't commit
murder.

When we commit real sins,
which all of us do, then we are sinners, plain and simple. We are not
righteous because we declare ourselves as righteous, as Meyer do. But
we are righteous because we are made righteous by a Holy God -- provided
we do what we can to stay out of mortal and venial sin.

Is Joyce Meyer an "ordained"
minister?

On
her website, Meyer's states:

"Is
Joyce Meyer an ordained minister? Joyce was ordained
over 25 years ago. She has a worldwide congregation through the
Enjoying Everyday Life television and radio programs.
Joyce speaks regularly at public conferences in the United States
and around the world. She also preaches occasionally at the
St. Louis Dream Center church, an inner-city outreach of
Joyce Meyer Ministries."

However, the Bible teaches that women
may not function in a teaching, authority role over men (1 Tim.
2:12ff; 1 Cor. 14:34-35). The role of a public woman spiritual
teacher, "pastor", "priest", "minister"
etc. over man is not the place of woman. In addition, the Church also
teaches that the ordination of women into the priesthood - even if
the rite of ordination is the valid rite of ordination - would be
invalid (and that is without even considering the fact that none of the
thousands upon thousands of protestant sects today even have a valid
rite of ordination to begin with, which means that none of the millions
of "ordained" protestant ministers today are neither priests
nor ordained and they are all just ordinary laymen like you and me!). All
of this, of course, further demonstrates, in addition with the other
information covered, that Meyer's is neither ordained, biblical nor
Christian.

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