1 perp dead and 2 suspects at large. 3 armed robbers forced their way into a video game store at closing time, brandishing handguns, when they made their way to the store owner, he began shooting them. 1 perp was critically wounded and died later(body found in the street wherever his buddies rolled him out of the car on their escape).

The store owner is not being charged, clear case of self defense and an obvious upside of CCW issuance. Glad he's okay and will live to see another day with his family and friends!!

He better carry every single day from now on, the bad guys might follow him to get some revenge

That's a pretty big downside to this particular deal, that it was the store owner and not an employee who could more easily find another place to work. That place isn't in the greatest location, hopefully he doesn't have a price on his head now.

I guess I need to go contact him and get him involved in the next AK build party to make sure he's got enough of the proper tools

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Originally Posted by Stonewalker

"A teenager is dead after a Fresno business-owner opened fire during a late-night robbery attempt"

No kidding, ABC 30 is a flipping joke, they try so hard to be as biased as the "big fish", so does the Fresno Bee. ABC30's typically the one to find the gang-bangers mom and play a continuous loop of her crying and saying "he was such a good boy, everyone loved him, he'd never actually hurt anyone, he was just trying to turn his life around", oh puh-lease.

I don't even know how many times those two companies "covered" an Agricultural Aircraft wreck and literally just made their own story up. I mean, it's my customer, an aircraft I normally work on, with chemicals that are not really a big deal as long as you're not pouring them in your wheaties, we often know the cause of the crash right away(typically pilot error/force of nature); often we'll even speak with the press a bit...then I go read the news report the next day and I could swear it was a completely different incident than the wreck that I recovered. 'Journalistic integrity' apparently means something completely different than what we'd all like it to be!

Its a good thing this didn't happen at a gamestop. They have a strict absolutely no firearms for employees and comply with all robber demands policy. I shudder to think how that would go with three armed attackers.

Fresno has a pretty good track record of standing by business owners after a shooting.

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Originally Posted by mif_slim

THANK YOU MIMS!

I hope that's not directed at Sheriff Mims. She was in a constant battle with the city counsel over the SO's budget. They knew if they cut the budget her only recourse was to either cut patrol deputies or close part of the jail.

I personally worked on a case in which a LEO was shot and killed during a traffic stop with a single shot from a .22LR. And yes, he was wearing a vest...

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"A teenager is dead after a Fresno business-owner opened fire during a late-night robbery attempt"

This is clearly a good example of Nurture versus Nature. IOW if the parents do not teach their kids to not be violent thugs, they will naturally be shot by their intended victim. Lesson learned.

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Journalism is supposed to be a pure science! It's a noble charge, a level of public servitude unattainable in any other career and fulfilled by no one else. Aarg... /rant off

From what I've seen, it's no longer simply a matter of objectively reporting the news. Instead, journalists fancy themselves more as commentators who must be part of the report and tell people what they must think of the incident.

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It is tragic that those teenagers decided to be criminals. It's tragic that one died. But for the love of humanity it's a wonderful thing for society when armed robbery runs the risk of death.

It would have been even more tragic if the victim had been killed instead. People must learn that there are consequences to their decisions, and bad decisions will render bad consequences.

"A teenager is dead after a Fresno business-owner opened fire during a late-night robbery attempt"

Journalism is supposed to be a pure science! It's a noble charge, a level of public servitude unattainable in any other career and fulfilled by no one else. Aarg... /rant off

It is tragic that those teenagers decided to be criminals. It's tragic that one died. But for the love of humanity it's a wonderful thing for society when armed robbery runs the risk of death.

And of course the media will interview his mother and family, and the family will go on camera and talk about how their son who goes by the alias "Mr. Big Dollar Hollar" was an angel and that he would never hurt a fly, he was an upstanding citizen, straight A's in school, captain of the football team, worked at the homeless shelter, yada yada yada

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1 perp dead and 2 suspects at large. 3 armed robbers forced their way into a video game store at closing time, brandishing handguns, when they made their way to the store owner, he began shooting them. 1 perp was critically wounded and died later(body found in the street wherever his buddies rolled him out of the car on their escape).

The store owner is not being charged, clear case of self defense and an obvious upside of CCW issuance. Glad he's okay and will live to see another day with his family and friends!!

The report that I saw stated that the owner didn't draw until the perps started to violently shove the employees to the ground. It sounded like he excercised a lot of restraint.

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Wasn't the dead man found at least a block away? I thought that .45 vaporized the target?

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Fresno has a pretty good track record of standing by business owners after a shooting.

Originally Posted by mif_slim
THANK YOU MIMS!
I hope that's not directed at Sheriff Mims. She was in a constant battle with the city counsel over the SO's budget. They knew if they cut the budget her only recourse was to either cut patrol deputies or close part of the jail.

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Its a good thing this didn't happen at a gamestop. They have a strict absolutely no firearms for employees and comply with all robber demands policy. I shudder to think how that would go with three armed attackers.

Proof that one of the first requirements of being a common criminal is that you have to be stupid.

There's a privately owned coin shop down the street from my house... the kind with bars on all the windows and steel storm shutters with a door the owner has to buzz you in on, you know, the kind of place where there's a 100% chance that the guy behind the counter is armed? Anyway, some morons try to rob him at gunpoint and one ends up dead on the sidewalk out front and the other runs away (no employees hurt).

Same goes here... why not rob a Gamestop, McDonalds, Zales Jewelers, or even a freaking bank for that matter? No, out of all the places out there to rob, you choose the privately owned shop that doesn't have rules in the franchise agreement prohibiting employees from carrying.

Proof that one of the first requirements of being a common criminal is that you have to be stupid.

There's a privately owned coin shop down the street from my house... the kind with bars on all the windows and steel storm shutters with a door the owner has to buzz you in on, you know, the kind of place where there's a 100% chance that the guy behind the counter is armed? Anyway, some morons try to rob him at gunpoint and one ends up dead on the sidewalk out front and the other runs away (no employees hurt).

Same goes here... why not rob a Gamestop, McDonalds, Zales Jewelers, or even a freaking bank for that matter? No, out of all the places out there to rob, you choose the privately owned shop that doesn't have rules in the franchise agreement prohibiting employees from carrying.