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Thursday, April 21, 2011

Version 1.5 is Live!

Whew! So with the exception of some last minute visual issues (for example, the Crim starter car has an issue with its shader, making the car and its wheels have a bizzare glow, and a few other graphical issues) we decided to roll out version 1.5 in closed beta mode. We expect to release small patch updates nearly daily over the next few days to clean out the last few issues, in preparation for inviting A LOT of people next week.

It's a 4GB+ sized patch, so clearly will take some time to patch up. Once you do, our first release of 1.5 has the following items:

1.5.0 (72) External Release Notes

Locked and Preloaded!

Build 1.5.0.72 – early Closed Beta edition of “Open Beta RC-1”

Open World Crimes and Witnessing

Background:

Witnessing has RETURNED and it's bigger and badder than ever! Criminals earn notoriety and stash by committing crimes all around San Paro. Any crime – ram raids, stealing cars or mugging citizens –will earn Criminals notoriety and add to their stash. Criminals will want to get their notoriety as high as possible before dropping their stash off at the Money Launderer who'll give them an APB$ bonus based on their notoriety.

Enforcers however, need to be on the lookout for Criminals committing crimes. When an Enforcer sees a Criminal commit a crime they can "Witness" them (by pressing ALT) and start a mini-mission. When killed during this mini-mission Criminals will drop their stash which Enforcers can then grab. Whoever has the stash needs to make a run for their drop zone to get the cash! Get rich quick, or die tryin'!

Details:

·Added new ‘Stash’ logic for criminals. All cash from open world crimes is now added to a stash of dirty money rather than directly to the player’s actual cash. Players are required to drop off the stash at a money launderer to receive the actual cash.

oAdded new Work in Progress (WIP) Heads-up Display (HUD) icons to show stash amount and current notoriety multiplier – the higher your notoriety, the higher the reward.

oDropping off the stash adds cash equal to the stash amount times your multiplier and then reduces your notoriety to zero.

oMoney gained from dropping off the stash is split between group members.

oWhile playing in a group, all group members’ notoriety will return to zero when one member drops off a stash, so remember to return stashes as a group!

·Added new ‘Witnessing’ Mechanic for Enforcers. Enforcers can witness crimes performed by criminals with a stash over $100. Witnessing this crime starts a 5 minute witness mission between the two player groups where they fight it out over the stash. First to drop-off the stash gets to keep it.

oAdded new HUD element for Enforcers on targeting a criminal to show stash amount if witnessing the criminal will result in an immediate match.

oNo HUD element means that you can’t be matched against that criminal due to other restrictions.

·Increased rewards for completing a mugging and added a reward for ramraid.

·Adjusted amount of items pedestrians will drop when mugged.

oPoor: 0 items.

oMiddle Class: 2-3 items.

oAffluent: 4-6 items.

·Altered vehicle drop off rewards based on vehicle cost.

·Altered item drop off rewards.

Spawning

Background:

Never fear spawning hundreds of meters away from your team again. We've made significant improvements to the spawning system so that you are more likely to spawn near your teammates. Also, you are more likely to spawn close to your target and with your other fallen teammates. Gone are the days of spawning right on top of an enemy!

Details:

·New Spawning system implemented. This takes into account locations of teammates, enemies, objectives and dead players (both teammates and player) to determine the best location to spawn nearby.

oIncreased spawn time to offset this. Takes slightly longer now, but you spend far less time running back to the action.

·Tripled number of potential spawn points in both districts to aid in better spawning.

Weapon and Vehicle Leasing

Background:

After serious consideration and review of closed beta participant behavior, we have added additional APB$ money sinks to the game and simultaneously reduced the initial in-game money cost for several items. All weapons and preset vehicles will now be leased for 10 days at a time before the items are repossessed by the thuggish people working the Repossession Squad. After the 10 days weapon or preset vehicle are unequipped and any modifiers that were in the item will be returned to you and can be reused later.

These changes let players try different weapons and preset vehicles without having to first earn millions of APB$. Players can try a weapon or preset vehicle for a short period of time for relatively little APB$ instead of only expensive permanent choices. This change will control in-game inflation and controlling inflation will make it easier and more fun for new players to come into game and participate in the in-game economy elements like the Auction House, and also allows us to create a new set of base prices for future weapons

Details:

·Weapons and Preset Vehicles are now Leased with in-game cash (this change does not affect Equipment, Modifications and Customizable items).

oLeased items are not tradable.

oUpgrades are automatically removed and returned to player when a weapon expires so they can be applied to another weapon.

·Adjustments to most costs for weapons and vehicles.

·Removed pickup time for items.

Modifiers

Details:

·‘Upgrades’ renamed to ‘Modifiers’.

·Mods have been coloured to denote grouping. Characters can only have one mod of each colour type equipped at any time to prevent stacking.

·Vehicle spawn cost now varies based on vehicle (starter vehicle is free).

Character Slots

Details:

·Players are now able to create one character initially for free in a free account. As an extra bonus, during Beta phase, everyone will be able to create a SECOND free character for as long as the game is in Beta.

·More character slots can be purchased from the Armas Marketplace, and a player could in theory have a very large number of characters in each account spread across the different servers. The benefit to the player is that if the player buys a "Premium" to upgrade the account, it applies to ALL characters in that account as long as the Premium is active, regardless of how many characters the account contains.

Environments

Details:

·Complete overhaul of all post-process and lighting values.

oModified values to iris response.

oBalanced every district material containing emissive values, to help mitigate some of the over-blooming that was happening.

§Vehicle emissive maps toned down in order to prevent detail corruption.

§Signage balanced so that it is much more legible.

§Skyscraper windows balanced so the colour variation comes though.

oDepth of field greatly modified in order to:

§Set back the plainer, LOD2 geometry.

§Help soften the harsh edge of buildings in general.

§Give a better sense of depth to the environment.

oImproved day/night cycle, including a 1 in 5 chance of heavy fog cycle:

·Ever get bored of grey? We were bored to tears by it. Some of the worst offending spawn zones have had an initial material pass to add a bit of colour and variety to San Paro.

·Many spawn zones adjusted in order to ‘plant’ the relevant contact characters more effectively.

oLilith and Jeung can now be found hanging out together at the Beltane with Bloodrose-themed feature graffiti.

oTyron Sennet shifts his focus to matters of planning… A better context and a better view of his jacket customisation.

oBonita Benjamin no longer stands in a dark corner, but is brought out to her own table outside the Golden Mall.

oShift given more boyish pose, and now leans next to some of her own graffiti.

oDouble B given a more prominent position in the subway.

oMirri Kent now has something to look at.

oStu Phoenix spawn zone given some Prentiss theming.

·Some of the contacts given a visual update to bring them in line with some of our more recent/incoming character assets. Notable changes:

oMiguel Esteban – Urban gumshoe and brawler.

oShift – Riot version as seen in intro cinematic.

oViolet Prentiss – Gets a hot cowgirl style to compliment the accent.

oKaspar Danko – Grizzled army vet and overall badass.

·South West side of the Waterfront District now has ‘Ophelia Customs’ blimp to aid navigation around that area of the city.

·Lots of bug fixes applied to props and features. Some examples:

o‘FU’ two-pane shop window corruption fixed.

oGlass modified so that restaurant interiors are now fully visible.

oSome of the shop windows given a facelift.

oOrganic food no longer available at petrol stations.

·Social District given a bit of a visual revamp:

oVehicle display zones improved.

oNew banners and blimp.

§Introduction of incoming contact, Ophelia.

oShop interiors made more colourful and varied.

·Added ramps to north end of Financial District freeway to tie up routes more effectively.

·Fixed several locations where players could exit the world or get within geometry.

·Added some cover to a roof in waterfront that leads to a nasty camping location. Still work to do here but this should help in the meantime.

·Added a large number of new vehicle spawn machines to both maps.

oAdditionally, all vehicle spawn machines that aren’t in factional spawn areas are no longer faction-locked.

·Fixed a non-functioning graffiti target in Waterfront.

·Removed a possible Truck mission target that was in an area that a truck cannot get out of.

Tutorials

Details:

·Reduced number of missions from 5 to 3.

·Updated initial tutorial mail.

·Added ‘Ready’ mechanic to tutorial, with an explanation of how it works.

·Removed majority of on-screen popup tutorials.

·Removed ‘Welcome to San Paro’ achievement.

·Added following tutorial mails sent to players:

oExplanation of how contact progression works.

oHow to equip and use modifications.

oImportance of Teamplay and group composition.

oOpen World Crimes and Arresting…

UI

Details:

·Players can no longer send each other APB$ in the mail.

·Removed the world recommendation when creating new characters. Server names will include their location so players can choose the one they want.

·Minimum client screen resolution is now 1024x768, in order to increase the size of some UI screens which were getting cluttered.

·Cyrillic and accented characters are now disallowed for character names. Some players were unable to interact with each other due to localised keyboards and OS settings. Russian players will be moved to Russian servers once those go live.

·Recompressed the game audio with no noticeable drop in quality. This substantially reduces the total client size on disk (now ~4GB).

Known Issues

Details:

·Starter Vehicles

·There is a known issue with some shaders for the starter vehicles, in particular for the Crim starter vehicles which will make the tires and sometimes the whole car look insane. Will be addressed in an early patch.

·Localisation/Translation

oMuch of the new and edited in game text has still to be translated and entered into the game. Playing APB in languages other than English may result in English text being shown anyway in some places.

Also, for premium accounts - What do you plan on doing if one is a premium member, creates a bunch of characters, and then no longer is premium? How will you go about deciding which characters should be deleted?

In fact - buying character slots is not a premium function, you just pay per slot, and then they are permanent. So if you buy 3 slots, get 1 free, plus the 1 bonus beta slot - you have 5 slots. And you will always have 5 slots for as long as you have that account.

If you are a premium player, then the premium benefits (20% item purchase discounts, 30% standing bonus, 100% more likely to get rewards at end of missions etc.) those benefits will apply TO ALL your characters at once.

Once you no longer are Premium, whatever items you collected while Premium you will be able to keep.

Thank you for the update sir. Is it too soon to let us know when we may expect to claim our old RTW characters? Also, will there be a wipe between Closed Beta and Open Beta so everyone will start on an equal opportunity rather than Closed Beta Testers having an advantage with names, leveling, weapons, etc over other players?

Great job. So, Im growing tired of re-creating my characters, and now I have the same 2 I want. Will there be another complete character wipe or just an experience and modifier wipe while maintaining the same character and name?

I have a question... Before I start let me say I AM NOT computer smart. APB is the only game I have for PC and I have all of the stuff from the original APB on my computer, launcher, just havent deleted anything. Am I gunna be able too patch it without using more memory. I think I have like 3 GB left. Please answer me without being a jerk or a smart@$$. Thank You

"Weapons and Preset Vehicles are now Leased with in-game cash (this change does not affect Equipment, Modifications and Customizable items). "Concerns me.. does this mean we won't be seeing the ability to purchase standard weapons permanently with in-game cash?

really nice (and massive) updateheres hopeing the fruits of your labor will be as sweet at the effort you put in no doubt was head wreacking (and not just result in more QQ'ing about how everything was better in the old days and how it was up hill both ways)

@Bjorn/G1,Pando Media Booster downloads have never finished correctly for me for any game I've tried which used the service, always presenting an error and cancelling the download right at the very end. I tried downloading APB through the G1 client this evening and predictably the download failed at 99% with the same error I always see from PMB. If an alternative download method could be provided for the final open beta installer (or even better yet, the current installer, since it seems like I'll be in the final big wave of CB invites!) that would allow me to actually install the game :)

I know your other game installers have been uploaded to FileFront and other places... doing the same with APB sooner rather than later would be awesome.

Oh Great... 1.5 version \o\LOLnow when we get activated account? ._.(the CBT app one! yep...i know this question scks!)but waiting since february...I opened the blog 20 times today! (or more... idk)And mah email too... I knew you would not call! But hope for something was born in email!Like when u leave the packages of chocolate in box... >_<just very excited to play! (since last year)

Weapon leasing is the biggest piece of fail you could've come up with. It's the single feature from Combat Arms that made me leave that game. It might be fine for the hardcore player who spends his entire life playing but it fucks the casual player right in the pooper. You stop playing for a few days, come back and all the stuff you worked for is gone.

I'm starting to wish RTW was still in charge with this change, the TTK and some other amateur stuff..

WoooW Bjorn! Very good, good good... How long time will there be untill OB is up? or do you have to see if it is running stabble... I have to say, really good job on the patching, i have already played, because i have borrowed a friends G1 account this morning... really good first impressions... and im glad you desided to put the price on cars ect. a bit down, because they were just horrifying expensinve, i love costumising cars, but i havent really tried it yet here i CB, so if it is the same "way" as with RTW... i have a suggestion.. make car upgrades "faster to get" meaning that if you have a sorry ass car, you can relativly qucikly stick some nitrous in it, to get some more speed. maybe a turbo as well to make it sound awesome, together with an exhaust... just a sugestion :)

And yet still no invites *THIS IS NO WHINE*They just shouldn't make false promises, they said next week as soon patch 1.5 gets live we will invite everyone who applied for CB, now they say next week.i will expect a next week again :)

you can still buy them permanently as i understand it. They just ADDED the feature to lease the standard versions... That's just to test new weapons which you may buy permanently afterwards.I like that feature, but what i don't like are those broken promises...

I am NOT already a Closed Beta tester, but have been sitting on my hands patiently waiting to get back in to San Paro, is there any chance you will invite me before 1.5 goes out?A - No. But if you DID complete a Beta Application in February, then you are first in line to get in while the game is still in Closed Beta and as soon as 1.5 is out. (see note below). That means this COULD happen this week.

Patience everyone. We just put 1.5 up, and we will review the stability of the build in the morning. If everything looks good, then we will start inviting people. We are not going back on anything - but - we are certainly making sure things work before throwing more people into the game.

It is like if you buy something for 3 days, and you spend your whole money, do you have to create a new character to get new start money? Or will there be a weapon that you have permanently to get any money if you spend everything on an items.

Not every player is going to be a half day online player ^^. Would be great if you clear that out Bjorn :)

So... There is no such thing as permanent guns now? Every single weapon says "Expires in 10 days." That's lame, and going to be expensive... unless you buy it from Armas Underground and pay G1 real cash, right? Not amused.

I was under the impression that "leasing weapons/vehicles" would be an Armas Underground feature. That you could rent them to try them without unlocking them via contacts, so players can test and see what they like before spending lots to get one, whether it was in-game money from a contact, or (for example) the gold-plated ACT44 from Armas Underground. I thought Armas weapon purchases for real money would have additional advantages.

I didn't think you were going to entirely remove the concept of "I have a permanent gun that I own. If I go on vacation for 2 weeks and come back, I'll still have my favorite gun." Rather than... "I just leased a gun for 10 days. I better make the most of it in 10 days, and if I miss much playtime, I'll have flushed my money down the drain." That concept is not enjoyable.

I also noticed that weapons can no longer be sold on the marketplace, there's no category. While I support the idea of not allowing veterans to sell rocket launchers to newbs, that was not the proper solution to that problem.

This essentially means that G1 controls all weaponry in the game, weapons are not part of the player economy. And if I hear that you're intending to make me pay something like an additional 15 bucks to get a permanent weapon, I'm not going to continue playing/go premium when you launch APB.

@Hasaosan - Use some common sense you fucking moron. They're not going to release a patch that they admit is having a few minor problems without any major testing. The patch needs to be stable before they're going to let more people pour in.

The whole "zomg leasing weapons is gonna kill the game" is shite, it's not gonna make that much difference, they've already stated it's going to be a lot cheaper than buying the weapon outright so within the 3 days you'll have easily made enough to lease it again.

Maybe they can add an option to auto lease when it runs out provided you have the money.

I've been testing since the beginning, and the thought of having weapons expire is a serious turnoff. Even the Stabbas expire in 10 days? WTF, G1? Don't do this. Include the option, sure, but don't make it the only option. I wanna buy my gun the old way.

Really?...Renting guns.....OK if its the only option it will be freaking retarded....SO WHAT I CANT BUY MY FAVOURITE GUN FOREVER I HAVE TO PAY FOR IT EVERY 10 DAYS?!....i have just lost 50% hope of this game being great

"we have added additional APB$ money sinks to the game and simultaneously reduced the initial in-game money cost for several items." - Bjorn.

This pretty much states that AS WELL as buying perma, there will be an additional way to buy weapons etc. Also - the 'initial in-game money cost' implies that initially it could be cheaper to buy the gun as a lease, OR save up for the perma version...

Although this is a little unclear it is looking like there are 2 methods to purchasing gear. -I think many of us would like it cleared up a little : P

It is really funny how G1 fucked this game up.They had to add a fine working trading system and premium cars. But buying character slots? SERIOUSELY?? That is the greediest idea I've ever seen man, SO if you wanna be a pro you gotta atcually BUY char SLOTS. And all the "noobs" have no slots.I don't call it Free2Play anymore.So is that how you guys think to get your £1.5 million back(when they bought da game) by makingprem char slots?! hahaThis is the beginning of the end, I tell youOr wait!!! There are actually newbies that are GOING to pay For this game so, thats why G1 did it.

Are you fucking retarded. How can you fuck a game up that was discontinued. GG and fuck off, bellend.

It's hillarious, these guys are producing us a game for FREE (with premium content) and you're still fucking moaning. Funny thing is people who say "zomg gonna quit" generally don't and just continue to moan, cant you just ban them.

Pissing drama-queens need to do one. The game will be better without them.

@David - Once it's clear that the patch is running with no major issues Bjorn reckons it'll be soon after that. So a few days or so.

All i hope is that the premium content is mainly for ePeen, not actually giving people a massive advantage, e.g more powerful guns and faster cars etc.

Loli :PYes I installed the game joined a game and uninstalled it. What do you think?^^Comeon I am not giving mii money out on somecrap called battlefunds.And I wont do that too in APB. I work hard for miimoney and I am going to spend it to something else. You should all do, they eventually have to make the char slots for free if nobody pays

How comme that all of my caracters suddently are desappeared, i specialy had one caracter a girl named bluey, i'd played many hours on and purchased a lot off gear for, at the auktions guns, cars, clothing and so on and she had about 9000, at her hand, is all of this really gone after this update.

@Bonse/FoeFuck you man.I mean with that, that i liked the original APB better. Are you stupid or what, go play a smartass some where else.And yes I think it is a shame that they are makingchar slots for prems, what are you going to do now? Insulting, like that would help.Making char slots prem is like playing APB, and for a weapon you have to pay realmoney.Well That you are one soab that is going to pay for this game is not mii problem. Go Fuck yourselfBut I am just telling ya there will be some no lifers with all char slots.

Leasing doesn't bother me at all. Obviously the longer you play the higher and higher the total amount of $APB you've spent on a given weapon goes, but it's not like there was much to do with spare cash before anyway, unless you're a designer and want to purchase display points. In that case, it's easy to amass a lot of cash, since you probably won't be buying designs from other characters and thus have more money to burn even if you AREN'T selling.

In regards to char slot amounts... who really really needs to have more? you can customise your character IN GAME, meaning you dont have to make an alt every time you want a different play style. Not to mention its classless so making more character slots even more irrelevant. Use the Beta time to pick a different gender or faction if you want.

game still full of haxors i see bulets fly trough wall wtf ? weapons are reworked badly spawn still enemy spawn to your back = still sux + social character custom not work black charracter appears =cannot see customization canot customize clothes + camera if i run shakes make me sick (im epileptic and ingame is not option turn off shakes = i get epileptic shock + accession every half of hour ) its no good

Bjorn, i cant participate on the beta forum, due to me lending an account from a friend... there is a problem, i tryed to make a new character with a name, i spelled wrong and deleted him, and then i had to go out of the game, and in again to make a new one :)

The leased weapon system sucks more the more i think about it. I like that you can try out weapons cheaper, but that they removed the option to buy them permanently... that just ruins it completely...

I always liked to own a couple of weapons, to be able to swap weapons during missions, now to gain money im being forced to play for 10 days with just one weapon? (ok i can buy more during the 10 days, but that will cost insane amounts to keep multiple weapons during 10 days)

seriously more waiting?..come on gamersfirst...why can´t you just let us in -.- i´ts annoying to wait for so longAND YOU SERIOUSLY FCKED UP WITH THE LEASED WEAPONS PART!!! thats why i loved apb and i still hate warrock and combat arms..you work your ass off for 6 hours and then you can get some random stupid ass weapon for a couple of days....NO ONE LIKES THAT FEATURE! REMOVE IT PLEASE!

Still no love for former ABP retail and APB beta players who in closed beta queue for few months now.If certain person claim that he were in APB beta and completed CB application that mean he want to test game as it is and not waiting in line for closed beta.Shame on you, G1.

Guys... please stop whining like this, and now because i say this does not mean you need to Flame me with words that does not belong here.. you will probably be invited during next week, OR ELSE you will be in Open Beta... You should all be fucking gratefull that they bring this game back from teh dead! HAVE A LITTLE PATIENCE! And Bjorn.. keep them employes working their asses of ;)

Guys, please don't start spreading rumors that are based on your fears and not based on anything you've actually read. In the release notes it says:

"These changes let players try different weapons and preset vehicles without having to first earn millions of APB$. Players can try a weapon or preset vehicle for a short period of time for relatively little APB$ instead of only expensive permanent choices."

See that part in there about "instead of only expensive permanent choices"? The weapons will STILL be able to be bought permanently, but they will cost A LOT of APB$! That is where the incentive to alternatively lease weapons comes in. The general idea is you can lease the weapons temporarily for MUCH cheaper than buying them permanently. The choice is up to you.

I ve never been so frustrated before in my life concerning changes in a game, even though it's in beta.

GOOD JOB SCREWING UP THE GAME!!! RTW COULDNT HAVE DONE IT WORSE!

- Spawn system: totally random spawns. on most missions I was spawned 400m (GIVE OR TAKE 50) from target, or inbetween enemies.

- Leased weapons. Great job making the game worse than Crossfire, AVA or Exteel. If theres no permanent weapons, no game for me in live. I prefer paid game like with RTW than this load of F2P horseshit.

- Team balance. Balance my ass. Once you get TL8 you STILL get zerged.

- Witness system. Sucks ass. I get witnessed, I get ganked by the whole fucking group of those who witnessed me. Not to mention, that they prime nades, witness, throw nades, kill me grab loot and untill i respawn they have delivered the carh. Dont you even dare say any crap about backup, cause by the time backup gets there, they have delivered MY LOOT 10 times. Seriously, is that fair? I dont give a rat's ass how many money I can make WHEN I CANNOT!

- New graphic enhancements. This made my life hell. I have a GF9600GT and I have to set graphics detail to MINIMAL (in previous version i had it on AVERAGE). Even so, when I get in the thick of combat, framerate drops to 20FPS, while in old version I had at least 40.

- Cheaters removed. LIE! BIG FAT LIE! same cheaters from previous version still play with same names and same cheats.

- Mission rework. Sure you reworked missions and fucked em up. Last match i played was a VIP mission. They camped on the well known roof in Waterfront (which you still havent fixed to balance) with only 2 entrances, match was over. We got farmed 22 damn times. We had to kick a noob cause he was idling and then couldnt CFB anymore. So it was a 3 vs 2 and the 3 were camped and farming us. That was just an example of how fucked up I found the missions. Another one was an item hold. The spawn system spawned me 5m from object, only to screw me up by spawning all opponents on me!

I'm really upsetyou said if this goes live you'd activate atleast another 25k users.....

also wtf about that characterslot thing?yes I know the game is going to be free and stuff but limiting that ain't the best thing to get money I think :(

I hate to have limited characters >_>

and I know there might comments as "let them devs do their work" or "it's a free game so you don't have to expect anything"

I know that but I'm waiting for this like LOOOOONG. And it was sad to see the game go down with RTW(been beta tester there)....And these lies are getting annoying too...

When the EU Server goes live we sent invites -ye right

When 1.5 goes live we'll activate another 25k users -ye we see that.

And yes I appreciate you informing us so often but I don't like waiting and I have been like: "freaking yes maybe I get the chance to play and test this this week IF I get activated."But no I have to wait another week until my holidays are over.

@Ryan and Juraj: Don't lie to people. You're wrong. Permanent weapons no longer exist. And for the record, Rm4g3dD0v was spot on.

I'm very frustrated by weapon balance: the Colby PMG has been nerfed to hell, I presume the OCA as well since it also got the same recoil nerf, and those were some of my favorite guns since they're the only spraying run-and-gun type of weapons in the game. I hate this forced pop-into-marks/crouch type BS.

Where's my run around with a sweet lil MP5/uzi spraying into hallways gameplay? The PMG has to be in their face now to hit anything, but at that range you might as well use a shotgun for the instakill factor. SMG's should at least have range akin to their real-life counterparts. I feel like my fave aspect of gameplay was just ruined, and I don't want to be a damn sniper.

Needless to say, I'm real happy that I wasted all my money so far buying my formerly favorite PMG, but there's no returns and it's leased so it'll vanish in 10 days. At least trying new weapons used to be an investment when they were permanent. Now, there's not even a Weapons category on the Marketplace, you can't make back your money if you try and don't like it.

@Bonse/FoeYou are really retarded aren't you?You should be banned for beinga dick. You are the one who wasinsulting me in teh first place.Go back to your room an finish your Tetris game. I kill you in your sleep bro..

Seriously? Leasing?Everything else in this patch is awesome, there are a few things that are off, but the biggest thing is leasing every gun. That is such a load. I've been in since Beta 1 (on both occasions) and Leasing is just a horrible idea for everyone.

Higher level weapons when people have more money to spend, yes it's a great idea. Right from the start when people are just then earning money for the gun they want, it doesn't work out! Do a certain level when these guns are going to start leasing. Or maybe it should be the otehr way around, very expensive weapons later on should be perma, and lower priced ones will be leased.

Not liking this at all, i dont want to bother. I really love all of these improvements and i understand you must be working extremely hard to get this all done. But 3 tatoos? 3! come on, and leasing weapons.. i have had my experience with fps games and leasing guns and it is fairly annoying. I like to find a gun im comfortable with and KEEP it. FOREVER. Again, other than that i really like where you are taking apb.

Will Gamersfirst Live! be updated with 1.5 within the next few days? I'm somewhat short on hard drive space at the moment so it'd be great if I could grab the new 4GB game rather than the current 8GB game + 4GB patch it'd save me a lot of shuffling about. Ideally it'd be great if it was before the closed beta invites went out - and it'd save your bandwidth as well as my drive space.

@Jaylon0012 Before you talk down to someone or the hard work they have put in you should learn to spell correctly. For instance, b4 = the 12 year old version of the common word before, Agean.. I think means again, and gonna.. I mean come on, at least put some effort in it next time.

Excuse me...but when i was 10...10 i used proper grammar...but jaylon....I think he is eight....6 perhaps....*clears throat*sounds like game is gonna die AGEAN b4 full reliese.MEANS:Sounds like the game is gonna die again before the full releaseGRAMMAR NAZI ME HAS SPOKEN!

This game was BEST till I saw EXPIRING DATES . What the f*ck are you thinking ?? You really know how to make game from best to bad . I hate games with expiring dates because its make me suffer and nervous just for f*****g expiring dates . People who I know (friends and other) never plays a game with expiring dates more than 1-4days MAX.I recommend to You better make HIGH PRICES for guns and other things because its much much better than much better ! People playing longer to get high prices items and it much higher pleasure than get like 30.000 and buy gun which expires in 10 days...and get nervous of it and suffer it ! I bet that 50% of all players will stop playing this game in 3-10 days (and I'm 1 of them)

Since noone is listening to other people....LET ME PUT IT SIMPLE....and in bad grammar.....YOU BE ABLE TO BORROW HIGH LEVEL GUNZ WHEN YOU IZ LOW LEVEL BUT WHEN YOU HIGH ENOUGH LEVLE YOU GETZ TO BUYZ IT FOR KEEPS!

LETS ME BREAK IT DOWN TO YOU FOOLS.HERES DA SKINNY. YOU CAN GITS YOSELFS GUNZ ON LAYAWAY, WHEN YO FADED ASS IZ A BUSTER, BUT WHEN YOU IZ BALLIN AND GOTS GOVUHMENT CHEDDAH YOU CAN BUY YOSELFS A NU GUN FO KEEPS.

The games in beta; its bound to have problems, that's why its fucking beta; so you can tell them about the errors without crying and whining about them and let them fix it! So if you don't like it stop bitching about the errors everywhere and wait for the full release.

About weapon leasing I would assume the idea is that they have it so the casual players will buy weapons instead of using tons of time to get in game money for the weapons.

Well kids it is time to stop crying and realising that if it not was for those guys there will not have been any APB here. Thank them for give you a free game morons instead of complaining. they could just have let APB pass them and all of us will have forgotten it by now.

So if we had an account before should we create characters to save our character slots since the characters are limited to 2 now or should we keep them blank? Do we still get our old characters back? Don't you think perhaps you should allow an enforcer and a criminal per account instead of 1 character just seems kinda basic to allow players to play the game to the fullest and if they enjoy then pay to play... Just a though...

I have noticed a problem. Textures have started to appear less quickly than normal. Example: Old APB: I would see a texture not "spawning" it would appear 2 seconds later. New APB: I would see a texture not "spawning" it would appear 5 seconds later. I think this may be happening due to compression added in this patch.

dont have a problem with leased weapons, i liked the system they used in microvolts. since this game will have mods and they will be sent back to your bag though it woul dbe nice if we could rebuy the weapon in advance to extend the duration another 10days. So we don't have to repurchase AND remod, not that it is a huge deal every 10days