i watched this video, thanks for linking it. i was speechless, i think it certainly proves that people just make stuff up, anything, it does not have
to make sense or be proven, it just has to sound kind of possible, well sort off.

it was like, yeah yeah, here we have this thing i don't know what i am talking about but i'll just say its a reflection, dunno what that is must be
a hologram etc etc.

i hope the O.P. video you linked gets a better more professional debunking than that, if it is something explainable.

I don't know much about electronics but it looks like a vertical band sort of like the tracking errors VHS tapes used to get before DVDs or the
horizontal lines that typically go across computer monitors. Definitely doesn't look like a ghost to me...

Originally posted by 3finjo
My guess here is that they saw the 'ghost' on the CCTV, then filmed the recording of it, hence why they knew when and where to zoom. This was
probably the tenth time they watched this, didn't want to take a copy of the recording because they A) couldn't figure out how to do it or, more
likely b) they didn't want to get in trouble with the boss.

Excellent find, very creepy

Now, there's a good explanation about how to tape the 'appartion'!
If it was a security recording then they could play back anything they found. Repeatedly.
So that could be how the camera man knew where and when to zoom.

Great thinking.

PS: I don't like the video of the debunker.
His explanation for the last ghost on the tower ride was a cop-out.
Hologram? I don't think so.

valid thought, but i cant remember tracking errors that actaully look like a human figure with walking footsteps, arms that move like arms when you
walk with a body and head?
If someone is clever and kind enough to get a stil close up of the "figure" that would be great.

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Having spent some time backstage at Disney, I know that they are strict about not allowing photography back there. I have to wonder if some of
these are a PR stunt for Halloween. After all, this year they have to compete with Universals Harry Potter attraction.

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Having spent some time backstage at Disney, I know that they are strict about not allowing photography back there. I have to wonder if some of
these are a PR stunt for Halloween. After all, this year they have to compete with Universals Harry Potter attraction.

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Hey Thanks Def

I assume that is why they filmed it off the screen. As it was against t and c.
Also why they knew where to start filming.
This footage is not for this years Halloween, nor Harry Potter as it was posted well over a year ago

I have heard the Pirate Ship has a ghost?
But as I've never been there.......

Originally posted by havok
Now, there's a good explanation about how to tape the 'appartion'!
If it was a security recording then they could play back anything they found. Repeatedly.
So that could be how the camera man knew where and when to zoom.

Great thinking.

PS: I don't like the video of the debunker.
His explanation for the last ghost on the tower ride was a cop-out.
Hologram? I don't think so.

I have to agree on both points here. Replaying the security video seems likely. I thought it might be someone just strolling, but in the last bit the
"anomaly" seems to make a turn and walk across the water. Not that I know the motivation of a ghost, but if it were me, I would probably take the
shortcut across the water as well.
And the debunker seems to just be looking for an obvious cop out. The thing about reflections, is they normally only appear on one angle. This is
cool, but might be a Disney side show for Halloween.

Haven't there been people that died there? As for the debunker video, if it was just somebody out walking, wouldn't the gates have to open for the
person to walk through? The gates looked like they were closed. It is odd, though, how there's this line of light or whatever where the "ghost" is.

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LOTS of people have died at both Disney Land and Disney World, a fact that they try to play very close to the chest and cover up. Sometimes they
have gone to extensive lengths to cover up deaths, including treating the families poorly in the process to maintain that Disney appearance. You
cannot have the volume of people in one area that they have in a single day, standing in lines, in the heat, riding on sometimes extreme rides, and
not at the very least have the occasional heart attack victim.

On October 1999 Pat Shenck and her 8 year old son went on 'water sprite' jet skis on one of the park lagoons. One of their jet skis got stuck
on the water when the shift wouldn't move out of neutral. A 23-year old inexperienced "captain' of the ferryboat "Kingdom Queen" hit them. Going
against all park and safety regulations, he put the ferry into reverse, sucking Mrs. Shenck under the blades and boat, killing her. Before Disney
called the "real" police and ambulance, they had divers in the water collecting evidence, looking for her body and pulling the bits of clothing and
body from under the ferry. When they finally did find the body they tethered it to a buoy and left it in the lagoon for hours, refusing to let it be
moved or let anyone to go out and attend to it until after nightfall when the visitors wouldn't see it and the ride wouldn't have to be shut down.
Mind you -- her 8 year old son is there this whole time. I can't imagine anything so sick, and cruel.

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are the cameras set to a stationary position and constantly loop over and record to a hard drive?

If so, it may be like a burnt image on the disk drive.
someone may have dressed up one nght in highly reflective material for a joke and keeps showing up at the same time through the feed, as it is a
burnt image it shows no real from, just the memory of the incident taking place.

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