Waay too much of a download when we're crusin'. Will check it out, I like flow sensors, but only trust a few operating systems to support them.

hoskm01

11-11-2011, 05:25 PM

Thanks Pete, I am working on a project where this will come in handy for spec purposes.

Mike Leary

11-12-2011, 09:16 PM

Good information, but, as with a master valve, it should be brass with all the work they get.

FIMCO-MEISTER

11-12-2011, 11:04 PM

If the guts or working parts are plastic then I'm not sure brass is a big improvement. On ball valves and nozzles brass is a big improvement for sure. Mark my word that in ten years you will be installing plastic backflow devices other than avbs and it will be acceptable to code.

DanaMac

11-13-2011, 11:00 AM

Mark my word that in ten years you will be installing plastic backflow devices other than avbs and it will be acceptable to code.

Like this PVB? But where are the testcocks?
http://www.toro.com/en-us/homeowner/do-it-yourself-irrigation/valves/Pages/Series.aspx?sid=Pressure-Vacuum-Breaker
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Or these the outside retention plates and shutoffs are brass but all the internal working components are plastic.

FIMCO-MEISTER

11-13-2011, 05:49 PM

Like this PVB? But where are the testcocks?
http://www.toro.com/en-us/homeowner/do-it-yourself-irrigation/valves/Pages/Series.aspx?sid=Pressure-Vacuum-Breaker
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Everyone of those I ever ran into was put below grade. I can't imagine too many municipalities would allow those.

That Wilkins 375 looks interesting. What would be cool is after you remove the guts for winterizing then another type of insert can be put in to take your air hose and blow out the system.

S.O.Contracting

11-13-2011, 10:01 PM

That Wilkins 375 looks interesting. What would be cool is after you remove the guts for winterizing then another type of insert can be put in to take your air hose and blow out the system.

Actually that is exactly how they are designed. But the insert is an add on. It replaces the guts with an insert with two 3/4 inch threaded hole for air hook up.

mitchgo

11-13-2011, 10:22 PM

Around here we have the wilkins 350 which is the double check version of the wilkins 375.

It's a neat concept to be able to pull up the checks easily to have the bf winterized.

Mike Leary

11-14-2011, 10:06 AM

Around here we have the wilkins 350 which is the double check version of the wilkins 375.

It's a neat concept to be able to pull up the checks easily to have the bf winterized.

Ditto, Russ has been installing them, as well. They seem to make service work a lot easier, too.

DanaMac

11-14-2011, 10:39 AM

I've installed a couple of those RPs. nothing special to me. A tweaker is a tweaker, so they will still steal it for the brass/copper or whatever it is made of.

Mike I don't see how you like those, considering all the talk about taking apart a backflow, and that we should not be touching them :nono: Shame on you, good man.

FIMCO-MEISTER

11-14-2011, 10:48 AM

Speaking of copper Lincoln's copper sword was stolen from his statue in Springfield, IL.

Mike Leary

11-14-2011, 06:04 PM

IMike I don't see how you like those, considering all the talk about taking apart a backflow, and that we should not be touching them :nono: Shame on you, good man.

Uh, uh, uh. My comment was the check assembly can be removed easily for winterize, which even you pikers can do. You could even try your hand at service , for all I care. HOWEVER, What I should have said, is any assembly should be tested by a licensed BAT after the removal, service and re-install.

Sprinkus

11-15-2011, 07:59 AM

Speaking of copper Lincoln's copper sword was stolen from his statue in Springfield, IL.

Here's an article (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-talk-lincoln-tomb-sword-1115-20111115,0,6859348.story) about it.
I wouldn't be surprised if some buttwipes didn't take it just for the scrap value. :hammerhead: