“Certain sorts” — by that I’m assuming you mean well informed liberals.

I live in Virginia and travel through Cantor’s district not infrequently. The bigotry I refer to is anti-semitism — I really think that the issue was NOT immigration here. The good white Confederate/Gadsten/US flag waving folks down there just don’t like Jews.This time they didn’t have to pick one to vote GOP.

Well, you’ve shown you understand some of your misinformation, e.g., AGW. I’ve sort of got to give you the dinosaur part, assuming you referring to Young Earth Creationism ( the largest plurality of belief at 46% of the US).

Then, much to the chagrin of both sides of the issue, I’ve solved for that quandary by applying a single postulate – Yahweh’s a Douche. One you add that it reconciles the conflict – Earth is 6 – 8 millennia old but was created 4.5 billions years old just to fuck with us. (Alternatively – it’s a MMORG world like WoW or UO). 😆

What was once a strength can become a weakness, Moe, as times and available resources change. In any event, the vast majority of Conservatives aren’t looking to end immigration; they’re just against expanding any further and providing amnesty to the criminals who refused to adhere to our already incredible liberal immigration laws.

I don’t disagree entirely. But any laws that punish youth for the sins of their parents is vile. When someone has been here 20 years and knows no other country, they must be embraced. Or when someone new is legalized and given an opportunity to apply for citizenship after a decade in the US working and paying taxes, we should welcome them.

At the very least, automatically extend green cards to foreign students graduating from US universities!

Include those things in any legislation and the opposing sides would be a lot closer together.

No, not including those things, limiting it to those things. That’s how you bring the opposing sides together because you’re right with a few caveat based upon the age of children – refer to the current immigration issue in the news.

I am, however, not sanguine about automatically extend green cards to foreign students graduating from US universities. The insanity of our H1B program is already bad enough and this could exacerbate it.

Even if ‘limiting it to those things’ were the proffer, that’s at least a starting point for dialogue.

How could the green card extension exacerbate H1B? By attracting more students just to get to stay in US? Okay, they’d be very motivated graduates who managed to afford college tuition. And to graduate. I say welcome to them.

Look at what H1Bs have done to wages in the tech fields. Labor is as supply and demand as much as any other product or service and when you have foreigners willing to work for 50% of what Americans are getting paid, you lose American jobs.

Yes! That’s free and fair market, but it also why I’m not sanguine about increasing that sort of immigration…or happy about its limit getting raised whenever the big corps. want it to be. I can’t bring myself to fight against it but that doesn’t mean I want to further it either.

I don’t include labor unions . . . they are not stateless. They’re American. I’d say lobbying by and contributions from issue groups, from pro-life to pro-choice, is okay. They are not stateless. Nor are they profit driven.

Then we won’t agree. Today, private sector unions are dying. They represent barely 6% of the work force in the United States. For-profit corps (stateless corps) with no national allegiances should not have the same standing. This has nothing to do with my personal view of unions. It only has to do with my views on campaign money.

An addendum: unions today are the only ones trying to protect the wages of Americans, which have fallen drastically in 30 years and which don’t reflect the productivity gains in those years. Employees are no longer valued. Seen as a necessity, not an asset.

james – absolutely right. You do politics ON the ground. He got further and further away from his constituents. Apparently hadn’t even held a single town hall his entire last term. And (I’m being repetitive here) I hear that he spent the early part of election day in a DC Starbucks with some lobbyists setting things up for his next term.