On whirlpool.net they stated that there was an update to the software because it was faulty. The recall was a separate issue..

You have become a fanboy of VW because you own one. But keep in mind I also owned one and had nothing but issues with it. I am glad you are not having issues at the moment. I would hate to buy a vehicle and realize there are issues... But DSG has been proven to withstand a lot of power true.. And it is fast at shifting true.. But it's not all bells and whistles.. How does DSG react in winter? In stock form can you redline truly redline without it shifting for u? And how much abuse can it take?

And I still stand by my post of just because a computer can replace a motor skill don't mean I have to conform to it... Especially in a what feels like a sports car environment

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First off, you of all people should know I'm no fanboy. I realize a good product when I see it, not the brand.

I know nothing of any software issues...maybe that was on early cars. The only thing I know of is the recall for the bushing that required mechatronic replacement. That was a select VIN range. VW handled it smoothly in my opinion. I have a copy of the recall saved to my computer should I ever need it.

I have had no issues in winter, in fact, it seems to actually handle the cold better than the other conventional autos that I've had. Still shifts crisply and smoothly even down below zero. My old conventional autos would get sloppy at that temp until they warmed up. My manual MazdaSpeed was the worst cold weather car I've ever had. That transmission hated the cold. The only issue I've ever had (if you could call it that) with the DSG in my car are a slight jerkiness during slow parking lot maneuvers in manual mode when warmed up. That's sort of an inherent issue with direct shift transmissions...but it also occurs in manuals...

It will let you redline. I've had my car to redline once now in manual mode. It didn't shift for me. It WILL shift before you wreck the engine though...

Abuse? I have no idea. It is much stronger than the conventional manual though, I do know that. It can handle like double the power of the conventional manual. As I said, there have only been a handful of threads I've personally seen (2-3) where the transmission required full replacement.

Certain vehicles are better as autos, IMO. I can't imagine driving a six speed Super Duty would be much fun.

I could. I used to own one(2008 SuperCab longbed 4x4). I was able to get up to 22 m.p.g. with the 6.4 liter twin-turbo Power Stroke. That truck was fun to drive and I miss it. Don't miss the associated repair bills though.lol

When I was 18 (1978) I worked for a Datsun Dealership. I learned to drive a stick, on a 1976 Datsun 510 Wagon.
Weird how I remember that like yesterday, but cannot remember what I had for breakfast. :-D. They also had a Ford Bronco with I think a 302 V-8, it was a manual column shift.
That was a lot of fun to drive.

The DSG (automated manual) option for the GTI is the performance option.

It is faster than the conventional manual.
It is more reliable than the conventional manual.
It can handle FAR more power than the conventional manual.

I wouldn't have bought my GTI had it been a conventional manual honestly...

It's one thing to prefer an automatic (which you obviously do), but quite another to be confused into thinking that makes it a more reliable, powerful unit especially when you also mentioned the recall, several replacements and the jerky starts you don't mind putting up with. But at least your 6 speed wet clutch version is much more reliable than the newer 7 speed DSD7 (global) dry clutch version, which seems to have lots of problems.

The DSG has its advantages, but reliability, operating costs, maintenance intervals, fuel efficiency and driving control are not among them (compared with a manual). Agreed that is is better and more fun than a conventional auto though. I'm not knocking the product, just its over inflated attributes. IMO, for someone who enjoys the road, a stick offers a much more complete interactive driving experience!

I mentioned no jerky starts.
In slow speed parking maneuvers it behaves very similar to the way my mazdaspeed did when I was cruising around a parking lot at sub 5 mph in 1st gear: confused and unhappy being in that low of gear. Big whoop. It's not a problem.

As for the reliability and robustness of the unit. That I can only tell you to read up on the mkv forums yourself. I obviously can't convince you, nor do I really have any reason to.

The only issue I've ever had...with the DSG in my car are a slight jerkiness during slow parking lot maneuvers in manual mode when warmed up. That's sort of an inherent issue with direct shift transmissions...

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Originally Posted by lyonsroar

I mentioned no jerky starts.

Sorry if I misunderstood -- it's just not an issue I'm familiar with on a manual. I just assumed you meant starting and stopping. Being new around here I obviously have lots to learn! BTW, I've had 3 Rabbits (all sticks) and thought they were great cars. ]

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