If you follow lib world view their logic dictates1) Bush is reponsable for 9/11 attack along with the jews who converted osama from peacefull islam to christianity to join bush/israel...!!2) Hitler was a jewish zionist trying to kill jews3)The best way to improve the economy is destroying the finacial industries ability to exist in the usa and export them to china and hand over wall street to china..!!

But if your not drunk lib you might be aware that climategate was designed to destroy industrials ability to stay in usa and exported our jobs to china..!!http://www.wnd.com...

the most important source for muslim Arabs:

"And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd'.".

- Qur'an 17:104 -

Any sincere muslim must recognize the Land they call "Palestine" as the Jewish Homeland, according to the book considered by muslims to be the most sacred word and Allah's ultimate revelation.

At 4/25/2010 1:26:03 PM, banker wrote:If you follow the lib world view, their logic claims1) Bush is reponsable for the 9/11 attack, along with the jews who converted Osama from peacefull islam to Christianity to join Bush/Israel...!!2) Hitler was a jewish zionist who killed jews3)The best way to improve the economy is by destroying the industries' ability to exist successfully in the USA, forcing them to move to china and hand over wall street to China!!!

But if your not a drunk lib you might be aware that climate change propaganda was designed to destroy industries' ability to stay in the USA and export our jobs to China!!!http://www.wnd.com...

1.a) The "9/11 was an inside job" conspiracy theorists can be found on the left AND the right - you hear a lot of that propaganda at Ron Paul rallies - though it would be idiotic to criticize Ron Paul for having certain followers who believe that stuff. Likewise, the same thing applies to the left.

1.b) You're doing a strawman of the atheist view you're alluding to - the idea is that we should hold Christianity to the same standard that we hold islam, while also recognizing that the vast majority muslims are not violent in any way - the islamist fringe is a small, albeit dangerous, minority.

2) That's just nonsense - it's a very strange, twisted strawman of the idea that Israelis, who allegedly are familiar with persecution, should be less violent and discriminatory against muslims in the middle east. Israeli muslims face many injustices, and there are a few prominent, very mainstream Israeli politicians who have actually called for the expulsion of muslims from the country.

3) The corporatism you're in support of undermines democracy, and is what the phrase "socialism for the rich, capitalism for the rest of you" refers to. Both left wingers like Ralph Nader and right wingers like Ron Paul are strongly opposed to government's support to big business. Opposition to regulation of these corporations on humanitarian grounds supports those companies' ability to lay off American workers in favor of cheap labor from third world countries. American companies staying competitive does not necessarily benefit the American people, and even capitalist economists often reject the idea of trickle-down economics.

Climate change has been proven - just look at the arctic. There is no question in the minds of climatologists, hydrologists, physical geographers, meteorologists, etc. that climate change is indeed happening, and that there is a human component to it - though there is a question of to what extent people contribute to it.

But in reality they are just cowards..! We are not competing anymore with immigrants and immigrants are not the cuase of our destructed industry..!

The libs who use climae gate to fine industries out of usa..!

The rules criminalize industry owners who try to compete with china..! As. A fact climate gate along with unions broke the back of our industry at the time it builds a 12 percent increase in china,s income...!!!

the most important source for muslim Arabs:

"And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd'.".

- Qur'an 17:104 -

Any sincere muslim must recognize the Land they call "Palestine" as the Jewish Homeland, according to the book considered by muslims to be the most sacred word and Allah's ultimate revelation.

Brycef thanks for proving me right albiet saying my points in the way you feel compfortable..!

You believe as typical muslims believe..! That victims are guilty for the crime commited against them...!!

1) 9/11 you believe "its inside job" bush or other americans who are victims of 9/11 are guilty of the crime commited against them..!!2) Hitlers bieng a jewish agent was not yielding any response..! Could be despite him bieng a lib or muslim understands how drunk it sounds..!!

3) Now your accusing me that I side with corporations...!! Is corporations a negative ? Should we chase them out from the usa..? Well so your cheering them out to china?If you have all this noble idea,s how about implementing it in china..? And boycotting all products that are manufactured with standerds not acceptable to you..??

the most important source for muslim Arabs:

"And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd'.".

- Qur'an 17:104 -

Any sincere muslim must recognize the Land they call "Palestine" as the Jewish Homeland, according to the book considered by muslims to be the most sacred word and Allah's ultimate revelation.

At 4/25/2010 9:41:10 PM, banker wrote:Brycef thanks for proving me right albiet saying my points in the way you feel compfortable..!

You believe as typical muslims believe..! That victims are guilty for the crime commited against them...!!

1) 9/11 you believe "its inside job" bush or other americans who are victims of 9/11 are guilty of the crime commited against them..!!2) Hitlers bieng a jewish agent was not yielding any response..! Could be despite him bieng a lib or muslim understands how drunk it sounds..!!

3) Now your accusing me that I side with corporations...!! Is corporations a negative ? Should we chase them out from the usa..? Well so your cheering them out to china?If you have all this noble idea,s how about implementing it in china..? And boycotting all products that are manufactured with standerds not acceptable to you..??

1) I do not believe 9/11 was an inside job. I think that it is obvious that I don't believe 9/11 was an inside job based on my wording in my previous post, and I don't appreciate you baselessly making up lies about where I stand. That's the dishonesty and sensationalism I referenced in my previous post. It's a dirty and pathetic move.

2) Hitler was Christian, though his religion is irrelevant to his crimes - in fact, some of his most important and pivotal supporters were neo-pagans and occultists. He was in no way 'liberal' - he was a fascist, and a nationalist. There is no evidence for Hitler being of Jewish ancestry - a while ago, there was a big deal about his grandmother having relatives with a potentially Jewish surname, but any real links to jewish ancestry are unfounded. For all practical purposes, I feel that we might as well assume Hitler was not a Jew.

3) I didn't accuse you of siding with the corporations, I stated that you did after you had already said that you did, and then responded to some of the faults of your position. If there are no restraints on corporations, then there is no need to "chase them out" of the US - they will on their own free will, as they often have - a particularly famous example being GM's attitude toward factory workers who lost their jobs when the company decided to move to southeast asia for a greater profit due to cheap labor. It left towns devastated, and the same thing has happened with other companies many other times.

Your last paragraph is literally structurally and grammatically nonsensical, but I'll assume that you're asking me whether or not I support the boycotting of overseas factory products. For those willing to make those sacrifices, of course I support them. As for myself, I don't boycott just any overseas factory product - that would likely be very difficult. I do, however, abstain from purchasing products that are likely made by exploited workers and are tied to human rights violations when I am aware of the likelihood of the crime, as I would imagine most anyone with a conscience does.I would appreciate it if when you respond, you'd write in a way that actually makes sense.

Brycef your saying things then changing it ,but your giving your title of dishonesty to me..!!Let's just agree that your not giving a whole list of some who blame victims of jihad for jihad..!! Let's assume that not only libs join jihadists with blaming jihad victims for crimes commited against them..!!

Let's pretend that you don't have to be drunk to accuse victims for crimes commited against them and some from ron puals and some libs and everyone bilieves the jihad version..!!So why then do you have to say that only a minority of islam support jihad..? You just proved that not only libs support the jihad view even the right blame infidels for jihad ..!

So why should muslims be more not muslim then ron puals people?

the most important source for muslim Arabs:

"And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd'.".

- Qur'an 17:104 -

Any sincere muslim must recognize the Land they call "Palestine" as the Jewish Homeland, according to the book considered by muslims to be the most sacred word and Allah's ultimate revelation.