One of her guests was Black Lives Matter activist DeRay Mckesson, who sat down with Katy for an episode of his Pod Save The People podcast. Like a number of other pop stars, Perry has often been accused of cultural appropriation at times, and in conversation with Mckesson, she addresses some of her past controversies, including the time she wore cornrows and ate watermelon in her “This Is How We Do” video and the time she wore a geisha outfit to the American Music Awards.

“I’ve made several mistakes,” she told Mckesson. "I won’t ever understand some of those things because of who I am. I will never understand, but I can educate myself and that’s what I’m trying to do along the way.”