No, really, it doesn't. People don't respond to punishment by giving up things they enjoy. Especially when the limits of that punishment are being kicked out of school, which rebellious kids hate already.

Quantum Apostrophe:ikanreed: Yeah, destygmifying is half-way to dealing with addictions appropriately. The other half is required counseling for those who those who suffer from them.

https://www.google.com/#q=destygmifying+

So google sucks at finding this thread. I made a quick attempt to locate the correct spelling, and just gave up and spelled it phonetically. i kan reed prety gud.

No, really, it doesn't. People don't respond to punishment by giving up things they enjoy. Especially when the limits of that punishment are being kicked out of school, which rebellious kids hate already.

Quantum Apostrophe: ikanreed: Yeah, destygmifying is half-way to dealing with addictions appropriately. The other half is required counseling for those who those who suffer from them.

https://www.google.com/#q=destygmifying+

So google sucks at finding this thread. I made a quick attempt to locate the correct spelling, and just gave up and spelled it phonetically. i kan reed prety gud.

No, really, it doesn't. People don't respond to punishment by giving up things they enjoy. Especially when the limits of that punishment are being kicked out of school, which rebellious kids hate already.

Quantum Apostrophe: ikanreed: Yeah, destygmifying is half-way to dealing with addictions appropriately. The other half is required counseling for those who those who suffer from them.

https://www.google.com/#q=destygmifying+

So google sucks at finding this thread. I made a quick attempt to locate the correct spelling, and just gave up and spelled it phonetically. i kan reed prety gud.

Rebellious kids hate being kicked out of school?

Intentionally taking the less sensible parsing of a sentence is not cleverness.

We used to have a smoking tree at our high school, it was 1978 or so but it was one of the huge trees that was out in the open, no hiding, and before school, lunch hour and after school it was surrounded by long haired boys and girls puffing away.Sometimes the uptight police state society that we've become just pisses me off. Think about all of the decisions we were capable of making for ourselves before the government came along and told us they knew what was better for us.

THIS IS HOW IT WAS when I was in school. In middle school the "smoking wall" wasn't an official thing, but all the teachers knew about it and didn't do anything about it. In high school, the same sort of designated smoking area was semi-officially sanctioned. If students smoked anywhere but that zone-- when on campus-- they were warned to go to the "wall" if they wanted to smoke.

It worked for all of us. The non-smokers didn't have to put up with smokers in any other areas. The smokers got to indulge in their gross habit. The faculty didn't have to deal with write-ups and punishments for smokers.

But then, this was an era when family restaurants had cigarette vending machines in the front lobby. If you were underage and wanted cigarettes, you could walk into the front area of a Howard Johnson's, Big Boy, Sambo's, or local family restaurant and just pay the vending machine. No one checking ID, no restrictions being enforced.

Honestly, younger people have no idea how easy it was to get tobacco back then. Of course, we have a trade-off today. Tobacco is much harder for minors to get, but nude pictures and porn are infinitely easier to acquire than the were back then. Jeez... In those days it was the Sears catalog or lucking into finding a stash of Playboys, and that didn't happen often.

I went to an alternative High School about 13-14 years ago and they had the same policy; They said it outright: "If we don't let you smoke here, you'll jump in someone's car to drive and have a cig, and well, once you're gone man... You're gone."