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Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread

UB said.."B. Scott has some nice things to say about David west. And where would this team be without David West. I think without his production and just as important his leadership this team would be completely lost"

I suspect this team would be 5-17 right now. They really need to keep Dwest

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Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread

I could see this happening, but where is all the money going to come from to sign DWest, Granger, and Paul? To me with the way PG is playing it's a lock he'll be re-signed, but unless I've missed something salary wise it looks like either DWest or Granger won't be here in the 2014-15 season unless Herb changes his mind about not going over the LT. Hopefully, I'm wrong.

Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread

I could see this happening, but where is all the money going to come from to sign DWest, Granger, and Paul? To me with the way PG is playing it's a lock he'll be re-signed, but unless I've missed something salary wise it looks like either DWest or Granger won't be here in the 2014-15 season unless Herb changes his mind about not going over the LT. Hopefully, I'm wrong.

I think if that's the choice, you cut bait on Granger and don't think twice about it.

Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread

The post-game court-side interview with the Hansbrough's was funny... Brooke asked if there was a little extra fight in him because it was his brother, and Tyler responded "I'd do that for anybody". Brooke and everyone watching was like, "Uh huh. Whatever you say T ."

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Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread

Actually, Tyler does have a point there. Remember when Gerald Henderson basically bodyslammed George Hill last year in like the third home game of the year? It was Tyler who got right up in Gerald's face immediately.

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Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread

Why would you hope for a max deal? I'd HOPE for a contract around 10-12 million or so

I'm hoping for that, because that would mean he's played at a level that is fairly consistent with what we've seen the last 5 games. Any contending team needs a "true max" guy. Our only hope of getting that kind of player is through the draft, and when Paul was drafted it was obvious he was our best shot at getting someone like that.

If he gets a contract in the 10-12 million range, that means we're stuck with another guy like Granger as our best player, which isn't good enough. You need a superstar to really have a chance, and Paul is the only player on this roster with the potential to get there.

Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread

I'm hoping for that, because that would mean he's played at a level that is fairly consistent with what we've seen the last 5 games. Any contending team needs a "true max" guy. Our only hope of getting that kind of player is through the draft, and when Paul was drafted it was obvious he was our best shot at getting someone like that.

If he gets a contract in the 10-12 million range, that means we're stuck with another guy like Granger as our best player, which isn't good enough. You need a superstar to really have a chance, and Paul is the only player on this roster with the potential to get there.

I rather just give him an extension before he becomes an star, if he becomes an all star this year the Pacers are going to pay a lot.

That is the reason why I keep saying to trade West for a young up an coming player that could grow to be PG's Robin in the future(Brooks? Leonard? Derrick Williams? Lamb?).

Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread

Actually, Tyler does have a point there. Remember when Gerald Henderson basically bodyslammed George Hill last year in like the third home game of the year? It was Tyler who got right up in Gerald's face immediately.

Yeah I remember that game. Everyone was ready for Hansbrough to get revenge on Henderson for the UNC/Duke punch.

Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread

If George keeps playing at this level for the next few weeks before the ASB he may be in the ASG this game. He gets his scoring up to 16.5 17 ppg with his reputation for great D and 7 rebounds 4 assists he'll be really tough to keep out. He's outplaying the crap out of guys like Joe Johnson that would typically stand in his way.

Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread

I'm hoping for that, because that would mean he's played at a level that is fairly consistent with what we've seen the last 5 games. Any contending team needs a "true max" guy. Our only hope of getting that kind of player is through the draft, and when Paul was drafted it was obvious he was our best shot at getting someone like that.

If he gets a contract in the 10-12 million range, that means we're stuck with another guy like Granger as our best player, which isn't good enough. You need a superstar to really have a chance, and Paul is the only player on this roster with the potential to get there.

I still don't know if he can be a true MAX superstar ala Kobe, Durant, etc. those guys are normally superstars from the start, or very close. Given his past few games I still think PG can be a Rudy Gay/Joe Johnson type of player. Which isn't a bad thing at all, but expecting him to all of a sudden become a top 10-15 player in the league (which is what a superstar is to me) is too much to expect, IMO.

We are going to have to build our team much the same way Memphis did, (0 top 15 players, but 3 top 30-40 players who
Defend nd rebound at an elite level) we have PG, we need to look to try nd fill out the rest of the roster once West and DG are off the books. (Most likely Re-signing one)

I think if we can sign PG to a 10-12 mil/ yr contract, we have a good foundation to be a good team--as long as we can continue to add to our starting lineup in the future.