All of this is very interesting for the political world. It will probably have little effect otherwise but it does qualify as a disturbed and unhappy group of voters. I sure hope that their ideas and actions spread...

Good deal, I’m all for it. What else can we do to let that Chicago gangster Communist he isn’t going to have an easy ride. Congress isn’t going to fight for us, its left up to us. We need to make a statement loud and clear. The Comrade will probably just laugh at it...let him laugh.

Back in the 1980’s I read a series of novels by William Johnstone about “Tri-States”. This was a constitutional government established in western Montana, northern Idaho, and eastern Washington lead by the charismatic Ben Raines.

I cannot recall what the event was that lead to the formation of Tri-states but they were always fighting the “Federal forces” from Washington, DC.

I’m ready. The election was stolen by a marxist muslim and his gang on November 6th. Are we going to continue with business as usual? We won’t if we want to survive.

I don not believe that Idaho, Utah, of Arizona would ever want to be affiliated with the coastal areas of California, Oregon, or Washington. The eastern portions of those states are dark red while to western coastal areas are deep blue.

Hopefully there will be a big earthquake that will take these areas and make them REALLY deep blue!

If that Russian feller thinks Idaho is going to be a part of the California Republic he's been hitting the vodka way too hard. And I note that the one thing he didn't provide for was a state or three who didn't intend to be under anybody's influence but their own.

It's probably a little hyperbolic at this moment to consider the country fissuring this way, but considering the widespread corruption, election fraud, union bullying, and strident propaganda that has allowed certain urban areas to dictate the rest of the country's leadership, I don't think it's much of an exaggeration to state that the country already has broken up. This is not a President or an administration that has the slightest intention of healing anything; their strength is through hatred and divisiveness. And we have four more years of this to go before the same team ramrods Hillary through for eight more.

I think the speculation was a sort of divvying up the spoils. There might not be all that much concern about contiguity of like populations if foreign countries were just trying to get theirs.

If they know what's good for them, though, they'll make New Scotland out of the Appalachians from northern Alabama all the way up to Pennsylvania and throw in the foothills on either side to boot, lol.

How the Heck did the People's Republic of New York get colored red?

This is stupid. Most of us were here mocking Democrats who were threatening riots if Romney won. Now we have people saying we need to sucede from the Union since Obama won?!?! We need to grow up and work to find better candidates. This was hardly a mandate, We held serve solidly in the house so people realize they don’t want a banana republic. Are we in trouble with four more years of Obama? Yes, but we need to take advantage of the coming two bad years to win back the Senate and explode our majority in House.

And I note that the one thing he didn't provide for was a state or three who didn't intend to be under anybody's influence but their own.

Which state(s) that would be that not only want to be independent but are also singularly strong in military sense, to ensure that they are left alone?

Note that if a state (say, TX) is strong enough to defend itself then it is also strong enough to annex the neighbor - which is the same problem, just seen from the other end.

I don't think it's much of an exaggeration to state that the country already has broken up

Politically - yes. But in terms of control, the country is as solid as ever. Perhaps it is even more cohesive, with expanded rights of the federal government and with reduced rights of states.

The real dissolution begins only after the central government loses power. That may happen for a number of reasons, but financial troubles are the likeliest cause. At some point the strongman in Washington will be unable to provide food to the millions of people who depend on the government. Within a week those millions will be very hungry and very unhappy, to put it mildly.

It will be China, most likely, who will pull the trigger. They will do that when they sufficiently divest their dollar reserves. The rest they will use as a pretext for claiming ownership of everything in the USA, at an opportune time, when the nuclear forces are defanged by the civil war, hunger, and by special ops teams.

Oh, yeah, and did you everybody catch what this Rusky did with Alaska? He has it going back to Alaska. Hey, I live here! This Rusky only hopes that would happen, they have been making waves about taking it back for some time now.

We here in Alaska have common ground with those of the Midwest or Southern group of states.

Todays this is seen as a nutty gadfly joke. But i predict it’s a fight in reality in 20 years. The trend all around the world is breakups. USSR, Balkans, etc. It’s been nonstop for the last 20 years.

When the East Coast Ivy establishment continually ignores and belittles the red states, when they “rule” as an elite of our “betters”, then they are rife with corruption and dishonesty, when they aggressively use laws and regulations to attack red state industries,,,, a separation is in the cards.

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posted on 11/12/2012 7:27:20 PM PST
by DesertRhino
(I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)

I know what you mean but it’s gonna be rough when there are more takers than we can shake a stick at? also to new takers will be receiving and voting by the time your describing.......Mark Belling stated yesterday that yes we usually show up just as much or more in midterm elections but it’s getting tougher at the rate the taker numbers are growing.

For example look at N.E. IL Nov. 6 results, look at the Dem victories there, we are in for some real shit after what happened.

If over half the population wants a Marxist government, maybe it is time to split into two nations.

It runs that deep. I knew a guy for 40 years since I was 6 in 1972. We went to school from pre-first grade to high school. He's one of those that sees Obama as a ghod. Needless to say, 40 years down the drain now.

Good quote. Very true. And i would prefer we restore the old USA, but i believe are beyond salvation.
And it’s very sad that the USA we all knew could face such a fate. But maybe, it’s not so bad. Instead of one intact revolutionary socialist/athiest/homosexual, anti-capitalist nation, we could preserve the ideals of the Old USA in the states that still believe in a constitutional republic.

In the end, it isn’t the red states that are trying to leave. This is simply a recognition that the blue states and federal government -have left us-.

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posted on 11/12/2012 7:42:42 PM PST
by DesertRhino
(I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)

Again, the history shows that migrations happen when splits occur. You will need some boots, a taste for BBQ, Shiner beer, and you should become very familiar with Jerry Jeff Walkers ¡Viva Terlingua! album.

And a proper pistol.

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posted on 11/12/2012 7:56:12 PM PST
by DesertRhino
(I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)

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