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Wednesday, 9 December 2009

Provocation and munipulation USA take back your missionaries

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'KAMPALA, Uganda - Proposed legislation would impose the death penalty for some gay Ugandans, and their family and friends could face up to seven years in jail if they fail to report them to authorities. Even landlords could be imprisoned for renting to homosexuals.'

You are fucking joking right? American fundamentalists pissing on yet another region in a distant land….I’m confused…did the planes hitting the WTC not send out a big enough warning of what could possibly happen if you continually keep oppressing infiltrating and generally fucking over people you have no right to be around? It does question why the hell you feel you have the right to exact a campaign on countries with the heading ‘it’s a war on terror’…..when you are the constant or establisher of the damn terror.

I suggest we stop being apathetic and possibly turn around to the idiots provoking the possible onslaught. How fucking dare you?….Scott lively Don Schmierer Caleb Lee Brundidge and the Rev Jim Garlow …Mike Tidmus has given the background to these idiots here. Homophobic religious freaks, I want to go so far as to say racists as well. This is inciting the killing of people regarding their sexual preference you can't do that in America, why did they choose Uganda?? Maybe it's because Uganda is easy prey as they are not very fond of their gay population and have developed a bill suggesting that gay people should be put to death or have life imprisonment and like most governments pick and choose their values as and when it suits.

Uganda"s ethics minister, James NsabaButuro, said the death sentence clause would probably be reviewed but maintained the law was necessary to counter ''foreign influence'' (oh please). He said homosexuality "is not natural in Uganda," a view echoed by some Ugandans

The bill isn't new but the part the named Americans have to play in it is...if you want to have a read you will find ithere entitled THE ANTI HOMOSEXUALITY BILL. 2009.... well it's to the point at least. Can you imagine waking up in the morning only to realise your life is at risk because of your DNA? Mince at your peril?? People can not turn off the gay gene.... bill reform or not they will continue to be targets from the people who feel threatened by their way of life and with the confidence that the law is on their side.

This is a reactionary piece...although I have sat on it for several days and I give a graceful curtsey to @fokiesd for giving me a heads up on it. The men in question have backed down in their involvement for obvious reasons. And the bill is supposedly under review. But I think the problem with fighting against humanitarian breeches is the resistance you find for cultures to recognise that their sometimes violent discrimination, infringes on a persons right to live freely without fear but hey.. I guess that's what's intended. They genuinely feel that gay people threaten the family structure and value. Maybe the Uganda government now recognises they are being watched but 'DavidBahati, the legislator sponsoring the bill, said he was encouraging

"constructive criticism" to improve the law, but insisted strict measures were necessary to stop homosexuals from "recruiting" schoolchildren.'

WHAT??? But this is not in isolation Nigeria Kenya and Rwanda are places discriminating against homosexuals as well. It's bad enough their governments are doing it to their own people, they do not need manipulation and provocation from the homophobics in the rest of the world. Africa is seriously messed up as it is without the missionaries coming back to finish off the fucking job!

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The responsibilty for passing this hateful law must be placed soley on the leaders in Uganda. Even if these Americans had influence, the people of Uganda are the ones who passed this bill. The people in Uganda are not robots who are easily controlled and manipulated. These Americans may be assholes but this is the work of the Ugandan people.

Hi O,its fucking outrageous what these fucking loons are trying to do,yet another gov suppressing a minority of its population in the worst kind of way,how many of these so called leaders are surpressing their own homosexuality the bastards,fuck me I`m fucking seething about this,and those bastard so called fucking men of God going over there from their comfy lives in the USA and encouraging them to victimise gays all because they think it evil well their the fucking evil ones the bastards why can they not just fuck off a let God do the judging the fucking nasty bastards....how many of these religious maniacs are surpressing their own gayness the fucking hippocrites Ahrrrrrrrr.

Yeah I think a lot of blame does lay at the feet of these politicians like Inhofe and the "the family" at C street. Also religious types like pastor Rick Warren and this idiot "former gay" Richard Coehn (who published false statistics about gays being predatory and tries to get people to believe that being gay is optional - therefore sinful) who have been to Uganda many times to propagate these ideas. The Ugandans are under the tutelage of very powerful people and want to curry favor. Notice that the Americans haven't saying anything to the Ugandans against the bill - until now. Of course as you mention they are back tracking... Rick Warren came out against the bill yesterday as did Inhofe.

The latest is that they actually dropped the death penalty out of the bill... of course that does leave quite a lot of heinous penalties including three years in prison for knowing someone is gay and not reporting them...

I've been reading about this legislation on the blog of a British Anglican priest. I thought the legislations was a pointed reaction to the schism in the Anglican/Episcopal church, because the conservative factions are pissed that the liberals in the church are ordaining homosexuals. The Ugandan Anglicans are definitely on the opposed side, and both British and American Anglicans are up in arms about this legislation.

I can't speak to what American evangelicals are disseminating in foreign countries. We are not the only ones sending missionaries abroad, and we are not the only homophobic nation sending them. US evangelicals are not going to approve of the death penalty for homosexuals, no matter how homophobic they are themselves. Hey, this makes them look GREAT. "You think we're oppressive for overturning the marriage bills in state after state? Well, at least we aren't executing gays!" And American evangelicals should speak out against the law, even if they're hypocritical. Because God knows there shouldn't be such a law anywhere.

I think this statement, blaming all Americans for what a few jerks that happen to be Americans are doing, is unfair and harsh:

"American fundamentalists pissing on yet another region in a distant land….I’m confused…did the planes hitting the WTC not send out a big enough warning of what could possibly happen if you continually keep oppressing infiltrating and generally fucking over people you have no right to be around?"

Yes, you call them fundamentalists...but the rest of the statement is aimed at the US government...or maybe all Americans?

Using 9/11 as an example in that way, makes it sound like you are condoning it. I'm sure you don't mean that...and were just venting...but to an American it is extremely insensitive and unjust. I'm sure no one would want anyone sounding like they condoned the IRA's violence. I do understand your disgust and anger with that bill though.

I read parts of that Uganda bill and what I read is disgusting. I can't believe they would kill people for being gay or having AIDS. It should make everyone sick. The most ironic part is that if you are a Christian(going back to the religious Americans that went over to Uganda) you should know that Jesus said those of you without sin cast the first stone. (paraphrasing) So even if you are a person that believes being gay is a sin (or having AIDS is a sin), if you are Christian you should know you don't have the right to kill or hurt whom you believe is a sinner. There are a lot of things people consider a sin. Are they going to stone everyone? No one is free of sin, right? Or is it only that particular "sin" gets that horrid sentence?

As my mother says "The only perfect people are perfect assholes." *smirks*

I agree that America and its influence affects many - but the Ugandans, the Kenyans, the Nigerians, etc. are people like all the rest of us and need to take their own responsibility for this atrocity. America is a very big place; American people are generally good people...like the rest of you.

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