For freedom of speech? That's a lovely sentiment. I'm glad you hold no political power. The guy had an opinion that was different than most people with common sense but he did nothing illegal. Maybe invaded her personal space a bit but he made no physical contact. Being an asshole isn't illegal.

Originally Posted by Thedead241

I'm a prostitute. Men like to tell me secrets. And women.

Originally Posted by Robozerim

Also....my condolences to whoever is Lora's lover. You got matched up with a madman, regardless of his alignment.

The whole point of freedom of speech is to protect speech you don't like. You don't need Free Speech to protect popular speech, that'd be redundant/stupid. Abolition, women's suffrage, a women's right to choose, the right for workers to unionize, gay rights, and more were all at one time or another considered unpopular and Freedom of speech helped protect those movements. It could have just as easily been shut down if we'd had a more restrictive system that folks like yourself tend to advocate.

Yes there's a downside that we have to suffer people like the WBC, but no matter how much you don't like them they do have a right to say what they say just as much as you have a right to think they're assholes and not listen to them.

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What about all the children who commit suicide via bullying and verbal abuse?

how's throwing people in jail going to solve that? we're never going to have the money or spaces to throw every person who mocks another person into jail, so maybe we should put our money into training and education instead of prisons, the prison solution is never going to work.

"Just because you read it on the internet, doesn't mean the person actually said it." - Thomas Jefferson

how's throwing people in jail going to solve that? we're never going to have the money or spaces to throw every person who mocks another person into jail, so maybe we should put our money into training and education instead of prisons, the prison solution is never going to work.

Only 20 something days, just enough to teach asshats a lesson.

"I just wanted them to hand us our award! But they were just talk!, talk!, talk!......" - Wrathion

No, I'm saying that the United States values freedom of speech in all its forms. When you allow the state to block one form because it hurts your feelings, you're giving the state license to decide what is and is not acceptable.

Your right to freedom of speech stops when it goes over other peoples rights.

Last I checked the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the international human rights laws applied to the United States. So no, you are no exception to this rule.

I wanna be a human being, not a human doing. I couldn't keep that pace up if I tried.

how's throwing people in jail going to solve that? we're never going to have the money or spaces to throw every person who mocks another person into jail, so maybe we should put our money into training and education instead of prisons, the prison solution is never going to work.

I'm not comfortable with the government dictating what is and is not an acceptable idea to spread. Once you allow the government to tell you you're not allowed to criticize people you open a precedent allowing it to tell you you're not allowed to criticize political parties.