I hear conflicting reports but the latest one says he was legitimately fired/released from the WWE. I suppose it could be a work for the storyline but I am not sure really what to believe. If is true hopefully he returns to PWG.

"The people who needed to know were told that Bryan Danielson was fired for choking ring announcer Justin Roberts with his tie during the angle on Monday night. That shot was edited from replays of the show. It's not known why this would lead to someone getting fired and from all accounts, Danielson was described as the type of person you want a dressing room filled with.

The choking with a tie was described as being too violent for what is allowed on WWE television."

Are people really buying the tie choke as the reason he is fired? Really? It could be a work (Danielson just changed his twitter name to his real name) or maybe he asked for his release. But really, I'm laughing at all the talk of him being fired because he choked Justin with a tie.

- The firing was legit. The word everyone is getting is primarily because of the choking. The locker room is not happy about this. There is talk that Danielson will eventually get rehired shortly after all this blows over. My understanding is that they want him as a face and the invasion angle would pit him as a heel.

- The firing was legit. The word everyone is getting is primarily because of the choking. The locker room is not happy about this. There is talk that Danielson will eventually get rehired shortly after all this blows over. My understanding is that they want him as a face and the invasion angle would pit him as a heel.

Even so, I think that WWE needs to seriously rethink their marketing. I'll be honest. They are targeting kids, however, it is the parents and old people who buy their tickets.

Personally the last thing I was watching was NXT for ArmDrag, but if it does get retarded then they will lose a lot more in the long run. I mean they have Low Ki come up, but that means they will destroy his character as well.

The marketing and investors need to get shot. How can you portray fighting and battles without violence? What's next? A Go Fish match?

If it's a work, then it was a great work, but after watching some of the show, they are seriously trying to pull kids way to much. Back in the day it was the action and good guy vs bad guy that brought kids into it. That never changes, but now people can't even watch it because it's some Days of Our Lives Soap Opera.

All because they choked out someones pretty-boy boy-toy out with a tie. What kid actually wears a tie everyday to where that logic will be usefull of "Kids Thinking Choking with Ties is Cool". Is this leave it to Beaver? lol

ESPINOZA316 wrote:TNA needs to step up and grab this guy right away. WWE is retarded..

honestly, whatever dumb thing WWE has pulled, TNA manages to make it worse, honestly, I rather see Danielson work a bunch of indies until WWE resigns him again instead of having TNA fuck up Danielson by putting him as Rosie Lotta Love's boyfriend

ESPINOZA316 wrote:TNA needs to step up and grab this guy right away. WWE is retarded..

honestly, whatever dumb thing WWE has pulled, TNA manages to make it worse, honestly, I rather see Danielson work a bunch of indies until WWE resigns him again instead of having TNA fuck up Danielson by putting him as Rosie Lotta Love's boyfriend

I agree, TNA honestly can barely juggle who they have now. They wouldn't use ArmDrag to his full potential. And would probably mess him up with some lame gimmick.

According to Meltzer, McMahon was actually forced to fire Danielson by some outside power who has some great big stock interest in the company. And indeed the biggest complaint was the choke job on Justin. WWE really wants Danielson to stay and if they can't do so soon than certainly when everything blows over.

As for TNA, don't hold your breath. As Kendrick noted in his and London's shoot, Danielson has no intention of ever going to TNA.

If I were Danielson and WWE called me back to bring me back i'd say "No thanks" after being thrown under the bus like this, Why come back and allow the possibility of something like this happening again especially if management won't stick up for him?

All because some suit and tie wearing prick who sits in some office and knows nothing about wrestling decides that he or she wants to regulate it to appease the parents who are stupid enough to let their kids watch it instead of being responsible parents and monitoring what they watch so other people who enjoy it don't have to suffer from their lack of parenting.

I just find it amazing that Vince is actually cowtowing to some other corporate entity. I have to think it's burning him up he "had" to do this. It must be humiliating. Maybe Mattel or whoever the responsible party is should start a "kiss my ass" club with Vince McMahon and WWE being the first members.The whole thing is just total bullshit. Everyone was just wondering how/when they would fuck up that amazing NXT angle.

Meltman wrote:Between WWE going PG to cater to advertisers and the economy at an all-time low, are you really surprised he'd want to keep sponsors happy?

While that's true, and a good point. The more they cater to non-fans, the more non-fans they will have.. in the bad sense. Much like many, the whole NXT angle made me feel something for WWE that I've not in many years. Now the only reason I watched NXT in the first place is gone, and he never got to do anything (I'm assuming it's all legit, by the way. I don't see WWE as having anyone smart enough to think of all of this at one time.)

Meltman wrote:Between WWE going PG to cater to advertisers and the economy at an all-time low, are you really surprised he'd want to keep sponsors happy?

While that's true, and a good point. The more they cater to non-fans, the more non-fans they will have.. in the bad sense. Much like many, the whole NXT angle made me feel something for WWE that I've not in many years. Now the only reason I watched NXT in the first place is gone, and he never got to do anything (I'm assuming it's all legit, by the way. I don't see WWE as having anyone smart enough to think of all of this at one time.)

I still find it disappointing though. Mattel sucks anyway and The McMahon in office wont' do anything either. I think they are seriously blowing it. The banning and the whole cutting the product down to a cheap swap meet knock off is seriously getting old. Screw the higher ups, it needs to be taken back to wrestling not to that PG cookie cutter product with no flavor.

That to me is very bad for business and even worse to your own dream you built. It's like selling your soul to a tranny.

Meltman wrote:Between WWE going PG to cater to advertisers and the economy at an all-time low, are you really surprised he'd want to keep sponsors happy?

While that's true, and a good point. The more they cater to non-fans, the more non-fans they will have.. in the bad sense. Much like many, the whole NXT angle made me feel something for WWE that I've not in many years. Now the only reason I watched NXT in the first place is gone, and he never got to do anything (I'm assuming it's all legit, by the way. I don't see WWE as having anyone smart enough to think of all of this at one time.)

I still find it disappointing though. Mattel sucks anyway and The McMahon in office wont' do anything either. I think they are seriously blowing it. The banning and the whole cutting the product down to a cheap swap meet knock off is seriously getting old. Screw the higher ups, it needs to be taken back to wrestling not to that PG cookie cutter product with no flavor.

That to me is very bad for business and even worse to your own dream you built. It's like selling your soul to a tranny.

Its bad if you want a wrestling business, but lets face it - Vince is humiliated by the fact that he runs a wrestling company. WBF, XFL, the rebranding of the term professional wrestling into sports entertainment - all the signs of wanting to make a name somewhere else.

From someone who works in the entertainment industry and has worked on TV shows, I can understand keeping the advertisers happy - not blaming him for that. But the fact is you are a wrestling company. If I worked on a kids show, I wouldn't run advertisements in porno mags. People (advertisers) should realize what they are advertising on. Wrestling is violent - Simulated controlled violence, but violence non the less. Theres a reason why the men and women who do this receive years of training. To be able to do this and not kill someone. Danielson is the best in the world at what he does. He was trained by some of the best and has become, in my opinion, as good or better. Thats what I want if I have a wrestling TV show. Someone I can count on.

Vince needs to not lie to advertisers about being sports entertainment, and let them know its wrestling. But I guess thats too dirty a word for advertisers.

On the plus side, if its legit (I think so), he might be back next month!