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Re: Pacers/San Antonio postgame thread.

I know Hibbert/West/bench in 2nd half will get a lot of blame for the loss, and I'm not saying they don't deserve some. But Paul George deserves the vast majority of blame for that Spurs comeback. My goodness, he looked like a powder puff player out there. Lazy passes, sloppy handles, bad shots, lost on defense or just not trying...it was pathetic. I was openly advocating for Vogel to yank him, his effort was SO BAD on both ends of the court during that Spurs comeback.

Re: Pacers/San Antonio postgame thread.

It would have been nice to maintain that 3rd quarter lead but I'm not disappointed we lost. Our bench played better this game with DJ looking much improved. Lance was phenomenal and I'm hoping someone makes a .gif of his ankle breaker on Parker.

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Re: Pacers/San Antonio postgame thread.

That was so depressing. When Vogel took West and Lance out, the team just changed out there.

And the last 5 minutes were just brutal.

Loss is on Vogel and Hibbert.

I'm sorry, but this is just as worse as getting blown out. They were up double digits and in a matter of just minutes it was gone. Just inexcusable. Spurs are good, but the Pacers choked away a win. *sigh*

Re: Pacers/San Antonio postgame thread.

I know Hibbert/West/bench in 2nd half will get a lot of blame for the loss, and I'm not saying they don't deserve some. But Paul George deserves the vast majority of blame for that Spurs comeback. My goodness, he looked like a powder puff player out there. Lazy passes, sloppy handles, bad shots, lost on defense or just not trying...it was pathetic. I was openly advocating for Vogel to yank him, his effort was SO BAD on both ends of the court during that Spurs comeback.

Dr.Hibbert, Roy Hibbert is the reason the Pacers lost, again. He got outplayed, again. He shot well under 40%, again. He took terrible hook shots that were often way off the mark (a few airballs even) again. He took way too many shots in general, again. The one thing I'll give him is his passing was pretty solid.

I suppose I could blame Vogel for giving the ball to Hibbert and West, but I'd rather just blame the guy who airballed a 2 foot hook shot.

Re: Pacers/San Antonio postgame thread.

The book is out on Roy by now. Players like Diaw give Roy trouble because they use their strong base to shove Roy off balance underneath and force him farther away from where he wants to catch it to be effective. Roy's height gets negated when you get in his head and make him uncomfortable.

Re: Pacers/San Antonio postgame thread.

I know Hibbert/West/bench in 2nd half will get a lot of blame for the loss, and I'm not saying they don't deserve some. But Paul George deserves the vast majority of blame for that Spurs comeback. My goodness, he looked like a powder puff player out there. Lazy passes, sloppy handles, bad shots, lost on defense or just not trying...it was pathetic. I was openly advocating for Vogel to yank him, his effort was SO BAD on both ends of the court during that Spurs comeback.

Vogel's solution was to yank Lance, not Paul, and to make sure Lance had nothing to do with the offense until such time as he was yanked. That was his reward for leading us to a 17 point lead in the third.

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"I like our group of people," Ainge told USA Today. "I'm trying to teach them about basketball, and they're trying to teach me about analytics."

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Re: Pacers/San Antonio postgame thread.

Look, the way we lost was disappointing. But this was still the best game for the season for our team. The offensive flow was gorgeous and frankly the D was solid. Not a lot of defensive lapses there. Conceding 104 points is never good D but then again it was the Spurs. Most teams won't make those shots (especially the ones that Manu did).

Before the game, I didn't expect a win. I expected a loss but I wanted a good performance. Especially by Paul George and Roy Hibbert. Paul had a good game. Not a spectacular one and he had some mistakes that cost us but he was better. He seems to be getting out of his slump slowly. Roy, on the other hand, was not as good. He had a legit double-double and 2 blocks but his 5 / 18 shooting was a big reason we lost. Still, I think that he should earn some more trips to the line. The refs were a bit too lenient on Duncan.

At the end of the day, I'm encouraged by this game. I'd love a win but I'll take the good performance and be happy. The Spurs were one of the few teams we didn't beat last year and I didn't really expect us to do it now while we're struggling without Danny.

I just hope that the way we lost this game is not going to send Roy Hibbert or Paul George in another slump. Roy will probably be blaming himself for this loss (and frankly, he'd be right to do so) and I just hope that this is not going to send him back into his slump.

Re: Pacers/San Antonio postgame thread.

In other observations, George Hill has really lost his shot and his confidence. I'm not sure what the problem is, but it would help if he focused more on penetrating and using that pretty floater and let Lance/PG/Green hit the outside shots. The only guy he seems to set up outside the paint is West. I'm not sure why he loses his man so easily on defense. His struggles + Augustin's improved play are why Vogel brought Augustin in late.

Also, Augustin's problem on defense is that he fights through the screen every single time. Steve Nash tries to do this too, and it's not always good idea when you're naturally at an athletic disadvantage versus your opponents. Sometimes it works, because he's small, but he needs to anticipate better and go under the screen (and this means teammates have to call out the screen).

David West doesn't even try against slashers. His on the ball defense is okay, but as soon as a guy makes a move, he just stops and stares.

Gerald Green has a much higher bball IQ on offense than he does on defense. He's pretty smart with his play on offense and his vision is surprisingly decent. He doesn't hog the ball but to his detriment; he probably should be a little more aggressive.

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Re: Pacers/San Antonio postgame thread.

It was good to see Augustin have an impact tonight. If he plays like that for 13 more straight so I can say he's played well for half of the season, then I'll let up on saying what a bad pick up he was. For all the flack Tyler gets on here, he's played his butt off consistantly this year and I'm really happy out of what we're getting from our PF position. I'd be happy if we kept Tyler and West together after this year and I don't think either player will break the bank.
Good effort for the most part tonight, just a let down in the 4th. Great teams like the Spurs don't let down like that and we're not on their level without Granger.