A bipartisan group of senators is on the verge of a deal that would expand background checks to all private firearms sales with limited exemptions, but significant disagreements remain on the issue of keeping records of private gun sales, according to aides familiar with the talks.

We have this in CA plus handgun & assault weapon registration. Next January, long guns will have to be regestered. You just can’t have UBC’s without some recordkeeping, which will lead to registration.

Some day in the future we will see confiscation (CA already had this happen on a limited basis).

Idiots! Their concept of universal background checks will spike home invasions to steal weapons.
But they don’t care. They can shut down sales by having the computer send back a denial to all inquiries. Then what happens? Remember is is a right, not a need!

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posted on 02/24/2013 4:45:58 PM PST
by Revolutionary
("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")

I thought I heard Coburn say any date base would kill the bill. From what I took of it be the same as current 4473 check, but maybe he's a lyin. An expanded data base be the start of registration/confiscation; time for the Tar & Feathers.

I know that here in Alaska, if Begich votes for anything on the order of new gun control, he's history in 2014 and he knows it. His letter said no new gun control for him. just concentrate on the mentally ill getting guns.

It should be obvious that the NYC and SF elites such as Feinstein and Bloomberg with their millions and billions in wealth and private security want the average Americans disarmed, before they come for your pensions and property via eminent domain.

They want you Mr Average, to become the victim first if their reckless policies and the dollar fails, while they are very well protected and defended with your police and taxes.

Resolution of whether to keep records of private sales is key to earning the support of one of the Republicans involved in the talks, Oklahoma Sen. Tom Coburn, who has a solid A-rating from the influential National Rifle Association and could provide political cover for lawmakers of both parties who are wary of supporting the plan.

I'm sick of NRA giving these slugs cover by endorsing them.

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posted on 02/24/2013 4:51:02 PM PST
by ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)

I'm with you. It's none of their frigging business, andthey can all high dive to hell. I put more value on my liberty and privacy than I have respect, or even loyalty to my present squalid, corrupt, self-serving, rapacious, vulgar government. I'm developing an intense, visceral hatred for those bastards. I've lived my entire life obeying the law, and I've never robbed, raped or harmed a living soul, yet I'm feeling more and more like an outlaw in this land where I was born. I'm feeling more and more like the people Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn described as "rabbits," waiting for the NKVD "blue-caps" to come in the night. I don't want to live with a leftist "boot on my neck."

"These negotiations are challenging, as youd expect on an issue as complicated as guns, the chief negotiator, Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), said in a statement Saturday. But all of the senators involved are approaching this in good faith. We are all serious about wanting to get something done, and we are going to keep trying."

With the exception of Chuck-E-Cheese Schumer's statement, and Coburn's I dont negotiate through the press, attributable quotes seem to be few and far between. Also, "while a Flake spokeswoman said Saturday that he is still reviewing the proposal" doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement. Meanwhile, over on the House side, "Goodlatte added that any discussion of new gun laws should come only if the Obama administration steps up enforcement of current laws" doesn't sound like they're quite "near a deal", either. Wishful inside-the-beltway thinking by the WaPo?

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posted on 02/24/2013 5:00:23 PM PST
by Sooth2222
("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)

The time is coming when Americans are going to have to stand up and remind these two bit public servants that this is OUR country and the Bill or Rights belong to us. These low lifes cannot take away our freedoms.

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posted on 02/24/2013 5:02:30 PM PST
by FlingWingFlyer
(Progressive, Marxist liberals do not evolve, they morph into fascists.)

In all the states we definitely need to push for restoring Eminent Domain to its original purpose of allowing hospitals, libraries and schools. I understand the property in that town in Conn. that sparked the Supreme Court case has still not been developed, but the homeowners were forced out of their property. A number of businesses in DC were EDed and the site sat empty for years. Finally it looks like a Walmart will go into that space. Once of six Walmarts planned for a city of 630,000. Overkill??

So my Senator, Mark Kirk, is in on this. Unbelievable! But then, I knew he was a RINO when I voted for him instead of Alex Giannolous(sp?). And to think he was in the Naval Reserve and he does this crap.

On March 4th, I am attending the Lincoln Day dinner here outside of Chicago. The keynote speaker is Rand Paul with Kirk also speaking. Talk about two ends of the spectrum. This may turn out to be a very interesting night.

So how would have enhanced background checks and mandatory background checks on private sales prevented the Colorado or Sandy Hook shootings? All weapons used were obtained after background checks. Oh, wait....this has nothing to do with those gun crimes, but it is a part of the left-wings’s long-time, scarcely concealed agenda — to create a national database of gun owners so that trouble makers can be dealt with at their leisure.

I hope that the proposed laws in Texas prevent any further erosion of gun rights.

The basic idea is that an environment in which minor crimes are ignored or tolerated is liable to become one in which more substantial criminality also thrives, ...

Today we face the opposite and IMO the consequences will be even worse. We have major laws and the Constitution itself being ignored and violated by the highest offices in the land. You say my gun has an illegal cosmetic feature? I say "I'm not shipping crates of guns to ultra-violent drug cartels in Mexico."

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posted on 02/24/2013 5:56:20 PM PST
by TigersEye
(The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)

Are we close to holding a Constitutional Convention yet, or are people still worried that a Convention will take away their RKBA? For my part, we still have at least on peaceful option left and we are obligated to discuss it. And know that the more serious the discussion about a Convention becomes and the more people join in, the more frantic it will make the left. And keep in mind that whatever a Convention passes must also be ratified by a super-majority of the surviving states.

A convention could also address the other defects and weaknesses in the Constitution that allow an EPA that has run amok, has allowed the seizure of private property for the benefit of corporate interests (like the Kelo decision), has lead to regulatory tyranny like the raid on Gibson Guitars over the wood it imports, and the conviction of a sea food importer for the horrible crime of shipping lobsters in a styrofoam container rather than a cardboard one. More important, we could stop the federal government from placing us all in debt-serfdom through infinite money printing and perpetual debt. And last but not least is the outrage of ObamaCare. It is time to redefine the federal government. The only issue is if this will be a peaceaful or a bloody process.

I suggest that the Stupid A-Holes in DC simply make a trip to the nearest store in their home district that sells ammo. Look at the bare shelves, then ask the question, how do my constitutents feel about gun control.

Be forewarned, this is not a local issue. Nation wide the same thing has happened. It will not go away.

Boy, that will make my next biz venture quite lucrative....Teaching fellow Citizens how to mil their own gun parts, buy the rest and assemble them into whatever caliber they wish.

I will actively purchase a nice CNC mill, CAD the blueprints and pump out everything legally possible from blocks of nice, cheap aluminum. Hell, maybe even a 3D printer will work. ~$3k outlay for the CNC, I bet I could make my $ back in no time flat.

Come to Jax, FL and I will teach you how to use household tools to facilitate the assembly of any weapon you wish, no federal registration required.

Not so fast  looks like the CommiePost has been doing a wee bit too much wishcasting:

Coburn: Senators still not close to deal on background checks http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/284557-coburn-senators-still-not-close-to-deal-on-background-checks#comment-811167327 Coburn warned that any talk of registering gun owners would doom the effort. There absolutely will not be record-keeping on legitimate, law-abiding gun-owners in this country, he said. And if they want to eliminate the benefits of actually trying to prevent the sales to people who are mentally ill and to criminals, all they have to do is create a record-keeping. And that will kill this bill. So if you really want to improve it, you have to eliminate the record-keeping.

Of course, this doesnt mean that were out of the woods, we all still need to keep up the pressure on those traitorous jackals . Oh, did I say traitorous jackals? I really meant that they are back stabbing traitorous jackals yeah, thats it.

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posted on 02/24/2013 6:56:52 PM PST
by BerserkPatriot
(Why is the Democratic National Socialist Committee waging a War on liberty?)

On March 4th, I am attending the Lincoln Day dinner here outside of Chicago. The keynote speaker is Rand Paul with Kirk also speaking. Talk about two ends of the spectrum. This may turn out to be a very interesting night

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