On the other hand, it appears that large numbers of people rely on only a handful of sites to check exchange rates. Whatever they use pretty much becomes the de facto standard. So far that would seem to be "BTC".

Truth. You are right, the exchanges have way more control over this than the actual merchants.

In way then, yeah, this could be a matter of making all the exchanges agree on something, except with them dealing with "irl" currencies, I am guessing they would not want to 'steal' another currencies' symbol though. But I bet if it was already used and adopted by the majority, it really is out of their control.

Continue using ฿ everyone! Force the world to accept our little digital currency symbol that at one time was used with some old world currency

Editors Note: I have BTC I think is accepted, known, that is ours. I am guessing all discussion at this point has to do only with the symbol, not the 'btc' three letter term, which is more or less the equivalent of the USD marking, not the symbol.

The Thai economy positively dwarf's that of bitcoin - so what sort of crazy definition of 'obscure' are you using?

Ask any one of those horribly suffering under the overloaded use of $ whether they have heard of the Thai Baht. Ask them to point out where Thailand is. The continent at least.

Before you twist my meaning, I'm not saying the country is obscure and its economy doesn't exist. I'm saying the average person in the target audience has no clue and won't mind.

If as you say Bitcoin remains as insignificant as it is now, then it's not going to be a problem. If it grows to a stage where it will be, then people will know to look for the context, just as those horrible sufferers manage to now.

In the meantime, Bitcoin isn't hobbled by yet another artificial hurdle.

Ask any one of those horribly suffering under the overloaded use of $ whether they have heard of the Thai Baht. Ask them to point out where Thailand is. The continent at least.

How is that relevant? Why include ignoramuses in your argument against clarity? Most $-citizens couldn't point a Euro zone country on a map, either. And most people do assume, often incorrectly, that $ means FRN/USD.

Don't under estimate the confusion that peso sign '$' produces and baht '฿' potentially would. You are of course aware that a large fraction of all English and Spanish speaking nations use the peso sign? Because you can point all these nations out on a map perhaps you've traveled to some, such as Australia, New Zealand or most anywhere in the Americas between Canada and Antarctica, maybe you've been confused - particularly in tourist areas? Or perhaps on websites - some of which have localization, other's without, or poorly implemented?

Bitcoin is disruptive enough as is - mainly I hope, in ultimately good ways.

Self preservation of the coin. It has to come in tough and swinging against all other currencies. When is the last time a currency was accepted among so many different people among so many different lands?

The logistics of a currency symbol being incorporated into every single computer that is already in everyone's home, not going to happen.

The numbers of people who use the ฿ symbol currently versus the numbers of people wanting to use it for Bitcoin, who knows, but that number is growing, we know that based on numbers and even how the system itself is made, we will be making these little ฿'s for some time now.

There is no way to properly handle this situation, and I am nearly fully sure that no country is going to be okay with a swiping of their old relic to make way for new world order. Oh wait, now I'm sounding like one of the kooks (more so than normal, cause even I'm noticing it). I'm only half kidding in what I write here, I really do think it will just have to be a forced taking of that symbol, I wish there was options around that, that would be realistic.

I really think the sooner everyone gets over this hump its for the best (thread was started in 2010 lol), it does suck for the Thai people, but maybe in the end they will just make BTC their main currency

I am nearly fully sure that no country is going to be okay with a swiping of their old relic to make way for new world order.

Indeed not..

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Oh wait, now I'm sounding like one of the kooks

Well.. a bit, yeah.. I don't understand the impatience to get the symbol, let alone one that gives none of the status that a new bitcoin-specific one would give.Work on getting the currency accepted by merchants and at least tolerated by nations and the rest will follow.

That link proved my point: "Even after a decade, many people still do not use the euro sign. The BBC, for example, writes out "euro", partly because it may still be unfamiliar to some readers, and partly because many keyboards still do not feature the sign."

I think there is a confusing situation happening about countries needing to respect Bitcoin and other such issues, I'm not seeing these as issues. India. Thai. All these people can feel whatever way they want to, but I have no doubts the people mining and hoarding and enjoying Bitcoin within those places already do not give a crap about their old physical money, nor will the majority of people here.

I would love for Bitcoin to be accepted by the masses in a way that works with current currencies, but the very nature of how Bitcoin works to me is, there is no lands, no country, just one money with it's value determined by the people exchanging. You use the word patience and such, this is the way it should go down, but now offer a way that it could happen, without it requiring the agreement of everyone.

I think the exchanges were mentioned before, without knowing specifically how, would getting a hold of the top 10 exchanges change it for everyone? Even if Gox, Tradehill, etc, all used a brand new symbol to represent Bitcoin, and that is just how it was. Do you feel that would be enough to change every merchant's mind to switch from logos and other assets for their shops, logos and assets their customer base already associates with their store, and they would give it up for what? So people in Thai they have never seen can keep their symbol that person never knew as anything but for Bitcoin?

It's probably fine to use the Baht (฿), just as many in countries that officially use the cifrão (two slashes) will use the paso/dollar (one slash) for convenience. None the less, it's still valuable to have a distinct, meaningful glyph/logo, whether or not it can be typed on a keyboard today.

It's probably fine to use the Baht (฿), just as many in countries that officially use the cifrão (two slashes) will use the paso/dollar (one slash) for convenience. None the less, it's still valuable to have a distinct, meaningful glyph/logo, whether or not it can be typed on a keyboard today.

I think MtGox's ฿TC looks amateur.

This hash B thing does rock.Would be nicer in my opinion if the hash were at the bottom of the B.. as if to say bitcoin is *based* on hashes.. but either way - I like it.

As much as I love the new #-B combination, I'm not sure it works on a small scale:I hope someone more talented is able to make a better looking version with 10 pixel height, because this is a must-have for a proper new symbol.

Apart from that, I think the #-B is a great idea: It has similarity to other currency symbols, is distinct from any existing symbol and most importantly: it incorporates the symbol for the foundation of the Bitcoin system!Please, somebody make this scale and lets propose this as a new Unicode character!

As much as I love the new #-B combination, I'm not sure it works on a small scale:I hope someone more talented is able to make a better looking version with 10 pixel height, because this is a must-have for a proper new symbol.

Apart from that, I think the #-B is a great idea: It has similarity to other currency symbols, is distinct from any existing symbol and most importantly: it incorporates the symbol for the foundation of the Bitcoin system!Please, somebody make this scale and lets propose this as a new Unicode character!

As much as I love the new #-B combination, I'm not sure it works on a small scale:I hope someone more talented is able to make a better looking version with 10 pixel height, because this is a must-have for a proper new symbol.

Apart from that, I think the #-B is a great idea: It has similarity to other currency symbols, is distinct from any existing symbol and most importantly: it incorporates the symbol for the foundation of the Bitcoin system!Please, somebody make this scale and lets propose this as a new Unicode character!

mm.. it is hard at that scale.I tried with the hash at the base:1.00

icon size at 16x16 comes out a little better:

.. should probably leave it to the pros.

The problem with the hash, an with the double lines through the B, is that it's simply too much ink for such a small area.One line would be far better, so I'd vote for a 'b' with horizontal line through it (␢?)

The problem with the hash, an with the double lines through the B, is that it's simply too much ink for such a small area.One line would be far better, so I'd vote for a 'b' with horizontal line through it (␢?)

I agree - double lines through the B are impossible - even the Baht symbol doesn't work well with small fonts. But the #-B as well as the B with the double lines on top and bottom only (from the bitcoin.org logo) does not necessarily have this problem. I think it's perfectly possible and might have a look at FontForge later.

It would be great if everybody tried to design his/her favorite non-existing font symbol for BTC with something like FontForge and then we can finally have a poll on a Bitcoin symbol without being restricted by existing typesets.