Twitter is all abuzz with it. Statement coming from the school tomorrow according to several unconfirmed reports. Ben Axelrod over at the Buckeyes Rivals page said something. I didn't have access, but I believe e0y2e3 has the last post in the thread, so he might have a better idea on what's going on.

A God Damn dead man would understand that if a minor league bus in any city took a real sharp right turn, a Zack McCalister would likely fall out. - Lead Pipe

The victim stated that on the listed date and time at the listed location that the listed Suspect struck her in the face with his elbow. The Victim stated that her nose began to bleed and she fell to the ground which caused her to twist her ankle. The Victim stated that she advised the bar staff of the incident but they did nothing to help her.

Emphasis on the alleged part. What I posted above is all that has been confirmed by actual reporters that I can find re today and what will be a long day for OSU fans and players.

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BTW: If this is true Meyer deserves major ups for kicking him off the team and making him earn his way back via the court of law ala Storm Klein last year.

This has been floating around Twitter all weekend and I strongly encourage not adding to the mess that is Twitter right now beyond knowing something bad is going down. A lot of hearsay, Adam Griffin tweeting that Hyde wasn't there, etc. I've avoided posting anything about this all weekend until something real came out but last night Ben (after locking threads on the subject) came out with confirmed info, I was out so nothing came here. Best case this is a huge, fuck, fuck, fuck.

From a football stance OSU will be okay if Brionte Dunn can remember a play, reputation wise this is really bad considering all of the recent Florida BS and is a no win for Meyer, Hyde (who would have been a top three round draft pick, IMO), the girl that was assaulted (most importantly, if true) and OSU.

No names given out. I've only seen this even talked about from Rivals beat reporter and he won't say a word.

It's a class of 2013 incoming Freshman (they've been on campus for awhile, aside from Munger).

There is a poster at Rivals claiming his friend on the team told him who it is. He may or may not be right so I'm not going to shoot some kid's name out there until some sort of real report is out there. Rivals handles things like this as they do for a reason, they'll refuse to talk about transfer rumors or talk about kids being in trouble by name until the school does. This is still college athletics and these still are kids.

e0y2e3 wrote:No names given out. I've only seen this even talked about from Rivals beat reporter and he won't say a word.

It's a class of 2013 incoming Freshman (they've been on campus for awhile, aside from Munger).

There is a poster at Rivals claiming his friend on the team told him who it is. He may or may not be right so I'm not going to shoot some kid's name out there until some sort of real report is out there. Rivals handles things like this as they do for a reason, they'll refuse to talk about transfer rumors or talk about kids being in trouble by name until the school does. This is still college athletics and these still are kids.

Hearing the same thing on the Scout insider board. There was a freshman name put out there, but it was deleted immediately.

Apparently several incoming freshman have gotten off to a rocky start. Hopefully this gets taken care of quickly.

GAINESVILLE, Fla. -- Florida Gators linebacker Antonio Morrison has been arrested for the second time in five weeks, this time for allegedly barking at a police dog and resisting arrest, and will miss at least the first two games of the season after being suspended from the team Sunday.

Morrison's defense was the dog barked first, according to a police report.

motherscratcher wrote:Hyde and Roby? Thank god it was nobody important.

In two different states.

On the same night.

LIke, that really happened. This is a thing that actually happened. Two NFL prospects on the same team beat people up in two different states. One knocked a woman out and the other knocked someone yet to be determined out.

Bad stuff. Wonder who the frosh is. Hope it isn't an OL (Gardner or Lyle). If the frosh rumors are true, hopefully they toss him too (even if it is Vonn Bell). You screw up once, bad on you. You screw up twice, you are a slow learner. You keep screwing up in your first couple of weeks? You are a screw up.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

furls wrote:Bad stuff. Wonder who the frosh is. Hope it isn't an OL (Gardner or Lyle). If the frosh rumors are true, hopefully they toss him too (even if it is Vonn Bell). You screw up once, bad on you. You screw up twice, you are a slow learner. You keep screwing up in your first couple of weeks? You are a screw up.

There are some Vonn Bell open container rumors out there, but the 2013 kid getting kicked out is supposedly an OLman. Never seen anything like this in terms of so many rumors and names being thrown out for separate incidents in such a short timeframe. At least with tatgate it was all related.

COLUMBUS, Ohio – Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer today suspended senior running back Carlos Hyde, from Naples, Fla., from all football team activities pending the outcome of the student code of conduct and criminal investigations. Hyde was named in a City of Columbus Police Department report that was issued Monday.

Meyer also took disciplinary action Monday against two freshmen who were involved in legal issues in the past week: tight end Marcus Baugh, from Riverside, Calif., and defensive lineman Tim Gardner, from Indianapolis. He also announced that senior cornerback Bradley Roby, from Suwanee, Ga., will not attend Big Ten media days this week. Roby was involved in a legal issue this weekend in Bloomington, Ind., and, as more information becomes available, could face additional discipline.

“I have a clear set of core values in place that members of this football program are constantly reminded of and are expected to honor,” Meyer said. “There are also expectations with regard to behavior. I expect our players to conduct themselves responsibly and appropriately and they will be held accountable for their actions.”

Baugh has been removed from all team activities and will sit out the first game of the season, Aug. 31 vs. Buffalo, for his arrest last weekend for underage possession of alcohol and possessing a fake identification. His actions will also result in the loss of his summer aid.

Gardner is being sent home and will not be a part of the 2013 team after he was charged Saturday night by Columbus police with obstruction of official business.

The big takeaway here is that Hyde has not been dismissed from the team, as was earlier reported by Tim May, among others. Not sure where the signals got crossed...might have been a tweet from Gene Smith earlier, that I heard about but did not see, suggesting Hyde was dismissed. May has been standing by his reporting, referencing the Smith tweet.

"I believe it is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting." H.L. Mencken

Baugh's punishment happened almost a week ago and is standard for a single summer drunken arrest as was established with Stoney and Mewort last year. He has to earn his way back onto the roster. I figured everyone had seen that by now, but then again everyone isn't as sick as me. By all reports Baugh is a good kid and the staff agrees this was a single out of character instance. He got a ride with campus PD (drunk) back to his dorm and then, very intelligently, left his dorm again while the same campus cops were outside and they busted him.

The team was put on high alert after Baugh was busted stupid and then Roby, Hyde and Gardner continued to fuck up.

The freshman specifically were told the next incident would be dealt with extremely severely. That warning combined with Gardner's multiple fuck ups did him in.

These guys had literally just been warned not to fuck up and that Baugh had to work his way back into Meyer's good graces.

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danwismar wrote:The big takeaway here is that Hyde has not been dismissed from the team, as was earlier reported by Tim May, among others. Not sure where the signals got crossed...might have been a tweet from Gene Smith earlier, that I heard about but did not see, suggesting Hyde was dismissed. May has been standing by his reporting, referencing the Smith tweet.

I would assume this is a timing thing and that Hyde will be officially dismissed as soon as charges are officially made, just like Klein.

furls wrote:Bad stuff. Wonder who the frosh is. Hope it isn't an OL (Gardner or Lyle). If the frosh rumors are true, hopefully they toss him too (even if it is Vonn Bell). You screw up once, bad on you. You screw up twice, you are a slow learner. You keep screwing up in your first couple of weeks? You are a screw up.

There are some Vonn Bell open container rumors out there, but the 2013 kid getting kicked out is supposedly an OLman. Never seen anything like this in terms of so many rumors and names being thrown out for separate incidents in such a short timeframe. At least with tatgate it was all related.

Don't post names with shit like this, exactly because of this Vonn Bell bullshit.

This rumor was started by Eric Ainge who is a huge fucking troll. Please avoid posting names of kids when no one knows unless it is reported by a real source, not internet bullshit or a drunk asshole like Ainge with no connections to Bell or OSU.

Both myself and jclvd avoided dropping names for just this reason.....

Slandering 17 and 18 year olds is borderline psychotic (not saying that is what you are doing, but the source was).

furls wrote:Bad stuff. Wonder who the frosh is. Hope it isn't an OL (Gardner or Lyle). If the frosh rumors are true, hopefully they toss him too (even if it is Vonn Bell). You screw up once, bad on you. You screw up twice, you are a slow learner. You keep screwing up in your first couple of weeks? You are a screw up.

There are some Vonn Bell open container rumors out there, but the 2013 kid getting kicked out is supposedly an OLman. Never seen anything like this in terms of so many rumors and names being thrown out for separate incidents in such a short timeframe. At least with tatgate it was all related.

Don't post names with shit like this, exactly because of this Vonn Bell bullshit.

This rumor was started by Eric Ainge who is a huge fucking troll. Please avoid posting names of kids when no one knows unless it is reported by a real source, not internet bullshit or a drunk asshole like Ainge with no connections to Bell or OSU.

Both myself and jclvd avoided dropping names for just this reason.....

Slandering 17 and 18 year olds is borderline psychotic (not saying that is what you are doing, but the source was).

Which is why I specifically stated that it was a rumor. I think the real harm comes when people hear that stuff and run with it, like "OMG did you hear Von Bell got arrested!?" But I get your point and I agree with it.

I see that the release listed Gardner as a DL. Am I wrong in thinking that he came in as an O Line guy? Getting sent home and not being a part of the team in 2013 obviously isn't a good sign for him going forward. I guess they're saying he has a chance to earn his way back onto the team for 2014, but I wouldn't count on it. I think we found one of the scholarship openings there.

As for Hyde, I'm a bit surprised at the indefinite suspension as opposed to being removed from the team like Klein. For some reason they're leaving a little bit of wiggle room on this move, which leads me to believe there's more to the story. ESPN reporting there's video that shows a different side of the story that goes agains what's being reported. BN saying they're hearding that Hyde intented to punch a man and he accidentally hit the woman. There's definitely seems to be something out there that's working in Hyde's favor right now, which is probably why he's yet to be arrested.

furls wrote:Bad stuff. Wonder who the frosh is. Hope it isn't an OL (Gardner or Lyle). If the frosh rumors are true, hopefully they toss him too (even if it is Vonn Bell). You screw up once, bad on you. You screw up twice, you are a slow learner. You keep screwing up in your first couple of weeks? You are a screw up.

There are some Vonn Bell open container rumors out there, but the 2013 kid getting kicked out is supposedly an OLman. Never seen anything like this in terms of so many rumors and names being thrown out for separate incidents in such a short timeframe. At least with tatgate it was all related.

Don't post names with shit like this, exactly because of this Vonn Bell bullshit.

This rumor was started by Eric Ainge who is a huge fucking troll. Please avoid posting names of kids when no one knows unless it is reported by a real source, not internet bullshit or a drunk asshole like Ainge with no connections to Bell or OSU.

Both myself and jclvd avoided dropping names for just this reason.....

Slandering 17 and 18 year olds is borderline psychotic (not saying that is what you are doing, but the source was).

Yawn/eyeroll.

I didn't accuse anyone, I didn't slander anyone and I am not psychotic. I said, I don't care who the kid is, toss him even if it is an OL inspite of our short numbers. I had no idea it was, but it turns out that it happened to be one and he was tossed for a year.

As for the Vonn Bell name, again no accusation made. I was making the statement that I don't care how good the kid is. I didn't reference Ainge and hadn't seen his speculation.

Like I said, I don't care if it was Vonn Bell, best recruit in the class, if he gets busted 3X in a month toss him off the team.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

neoleo wrote:I see that the release listed Gardner as a DL. Am I wrong in thinking that he came in as an O Line guy? Getting sent home and not being a part of the team in 2013 obviously isn't a good sign for him going forward. I guess they're saying he has a chance to earn his way back onto the team for 2014, but I wouldn't count on it. I think we found one of the scholarship openings there.

As for Hyde, I'm a bit surprised at the indefinite suspension as opposed to being removed from the team like Klein. For some reason they're leaving a little bit of wiggle room on this move, which leads me to believe there's more to the story. ESPN reporting there's video that shows a different side of the story that goes agains what's being reported. BN saying they're hearding that Hyde intented to punch a man and he accidentally hit the woman. There's definitely seems to be something out there that's working in Hyde's favor right now, which is probably why he's yet to be arrested.

BN said today that Meyer was going to toss him until the security video came to light. Sounds to me like this might blow over to some extent. I don't really care. If he punched a chick on purpose, toss him now. OSU will be fine. If it was an accident/incidental thing (which is the less sensational story that is now leaking out) then keep him. Either way OSU is fine this year.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

My only point was to neo. No point in even saying there are Vonn Bell rumors out there. Those rumors came from a UT troll with no knowledge.

What you posted I had zero problem at all with.

Some boards (cough, 11W, cough) had some incredibly terrible shit being said about Gardner and Bell yesterday before anyone had any person worth a damn giving a name. I'd prefer to not see that shit spread here. It didn't but NEO opened a door by stating rumors are out there without clarifying just how shitty the source of them was.

If I was talking to you I would have only quoted you.

And as I said to Neoleo, I don't consider him psychotic either, now Ainge and his UT fans, they are. No point in giving people as sick and obsessed as them a chance to even have their "rumor" heard. It would be like listening to Finebaum's show and taking those rumors as truth, only Ainge is even less credible.

neoleo wrote:I see that the release listed Gardner as a DL. Am I wrong in thinking that he came in as an O Line guy? Getting sent home and not being a part of the team in 2013 obviously isn't a good sign for him going forward. I guess they're saying he has a chance to earn his way back onto the team for 2014, but I wouldn't count on it. I think we found one of the scholarship openings there.

As for Hyde, I'm a bit surprised at the indefinite suspension as opposed to being removed from the team like Klein. For some reason they're leaving a little bit of wiggle room on this move, which leads me to believe there's more to the story. ESPN reporting there's video that shows a different side of the story that goes agains what's being reported. BN saying they're hearding that Hyde intented to punch a man and he accidentally hit the woman. There's definitely seems to be something out there that's working in Hyde's favor right now, which is probably why he's yet to be arrested.

BN said today that Meyer was going to toss him until the security video came to light. Sounds to me like this might blow over to some extent. I don't really care. If he punched a chick on purpose, toss him now. OSU will be fine. If it was an accident/incidental thing (which is the less sensational story that is now leaking out) then keep him. Either way OSU is fine this year.

You can't toss a kid on a first offense until charges are made (assuming he denies said accusations). Hyde and the girl in question are being interviewed today and we'll be a lot closer to a resolution.

BTW: The 11W free board is one of the worst things to happen to recruiting in the history of the world. Words cannot describe how bad it is giving the general and uninformed public that type of a place to collect their moronic points of view together.