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Ray there's no use arguing with someone like that, it wouldn't matter if starting pay was $15k, it would be to much. There are those that hate veterans, cops, firefighters, teachers regardless of the truth, he is one of them, the same type that would spit on our serviceman returning from Vietnam.

You really stepped in it this time, not only are so so wrong about Marvin S...you owe the man an apology...making a statement like that when you know nothing about his past.I have only known the man for a couple of years but he has been field trialing with my brother and other friends of mine since the early 70's, and he is about as staunch a conservative man as there is, especially coming from the NW surrounded by a whole bunch of tree huggers and other Patty Murray libs...he would NEVER disrespect our servicemen

Marvin is probably the only one amongst us who has real political experience and actually tried to make a difference by running for public office instead of sitting on the sidelines and whining and biaaatching about it...

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Originally Posted by lanse brown

A few things that I learned still ring true. "Lanse when you get a gift, say thank you and walk away. When you get a screwing walk away. You are going to get a lot more screwings than gifts"

All I can say is please vote even if your not thrilled with Obama or Romney give Romney a chance if he doesnt do what he promises we can get rid of him at the end of his term. Dont keep Obama when his policies failed and he cannot do anything different in the next four years. You would not keep paying a employee that cant do their job you would fire them and hire someone else. Thats all were doing getting rid of a dud and trying again. A vote is to important to waste on a thrid party that cannot win. Its our turn to tell Obama your fired and tak all your corrupt staff with you.Lets clean house and try again....

All I can say is please vote even if your not thrilled with Obama or Romney give Romney a chance if he doesnt do what he promises we can get rid of him at the end of his term. Dont keep Obama when his policies failed and he cannot do anything different in the next four years. You would not keep paying a employee that cant do their job you would fire them and hire someone else. Thats all were doing getting rid of a dud and trying again. A vote is to important to waste on a thrid party that cannot win. Its our turn to tell Obama your fired and tak all your corrupt staff with you.Lets clean house and try again....

Good post ! We need to do just that.....vote the gang out.

charly

"To become competent in governing others, we must first learn to govern ourselves"
Waite Phillips

I'm asking do you want a tax dodger in the whitehouse? If so, why do you think it is ok for Romney to pay less than half of what you pay in taxes as a percentage of his income? Because he is smarter than you is not a good answer. Who out there has accounts in the Camen Islands and Switzerlland? Oh yea Bermunda?

I'm sure some of you could but dodging tax is hopefully not a major passtime of yours.

You have to remember whim your dealing with. Your not dealing with a reasonable Republican party, this Republican party are racist who think that there are a difference between rape and legitiment rape, this is a republican party that would abort a fetus if it was conceived by incest! They don't like Obama because his name is Obama, they don't like Obama because he is black and that was proven day one when the Republican leadership had a meeting after Obama was elected and that day they decided to make sure Obama failed and they have done that at the expense of our country. I have voted for Republicans many times, I voted for George W the first time....But todays Republican party are absolutely crazy, they forget that a Republican administration got us into this mess in the first place and it took them 8 year and now a Dem administration haven't fixed their mess yet and they want them out and they say he isn't a American and they make claims that he's a socialist. At the end of the day today's Republicans are Racist, Sexist money hungry criminals.

You shouldn't hold an entire party responsible because of what one person says or you have to say the dems are all racists because of what Biden has said on more than one occasion. Biden is the biggest racists out there! The answer is show the proof that Romney is a tax dodger or get off it no one has presented any proof . We have proof in writing what Obama has done and plans on doing with his 21 new taxes for everybodys free health care.

You really stepped in it this time, not only are so so wrong about Marvin S...you owe the man an apology...making a statement like that when you know nothing about his past.I have only known the man for a couple of years but he has been field trialing with my brother and other friends of mine since the early 70's, and he is about as staunch a conservative man as there is, especially coming from the NW surrounded by a whole bunch of tree huggers and other Patty Murray libs...he would NEVER disrespect our servicemen

Marvin is probably the only one amongst us who has real political experience and actually tried to make a difference by running for public office instead of sitting on the sidelines and whining and biaaatching about it...

Bon, after reading a bunch of made up crap about teachers I could laugh it off as some crabby uneducated old man who had it out for a neighbor who was a teacher, but when he chose to piss on the graves of 300+ firefighters who died in 9/11 I chose to speak up. For the record I was never in the military, I'm the son of a Vietnam vetern who was also a school teacher, I myself am a former police officer and a part time fireman.

You have to remember whim your dealing with. Your not dealing with a reasonable Republican party, this Republican party are racist who think that there are a difference between rape and legitiment rape, this is a republican party that would abort a fetus if it was conceived by incest! They don't like Obama because his name is Obama, they don't like Obama because he is black and that was proven day one when the Republican leadership had a meeting after Obama was elected and that day they decided to make sure Obama failed and they have done that at the expense of our country. I have voted for Republicans many times, I voted for George W the first time....But todays Republican party are absolutely crazy, they forget that a Republican administration got us into this mess in the first place and it took them 8 year and now a Dem administration haven't fixed their mess yet and they want them out and they say he isn't a American and they make claims that he's a socialist. At the end of the day today's Republicans are Racist, Sexist money hungry criminals.

Rather extreme claim there.

If we can judge the whole Republican party based on a comment by Akin ... then can we also judge all the Democrat Party by a local Democrat State Rep who beat his wife and then drove off drunk? Are all Dems then wife-beating, women-hating alcoholics?

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If we can judge the whole Republican party based on a comment by Akin ... then can we also judge all the Democrat Party by a local Democrat State Rep who beat his wife and then drove off drunk? Are all Dems then wife-beating, women-hating alcoholics?

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I don't think it would necessarily be fair to say ALL.............

Any doctrine that weakens personal responsibility for judgment and for action helps create the attitudes that welcome and support the totalitarian state.
(John Dewey)

Associate yourself with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for 'tis better to be alone than in bad company.
(George Washington)

Bon, after reading a bunch of made up crap about teachers I could laugh it off as some crabby uneducated old man who had it out for a neighbor who was a teacher, but when he chose to piss on the graves of 300+ firefighters who died in 9/11 I chose to speak up. For the record I was never in the military, I'm the son of a Vietnam vetern who was also a school teacher, I myself am a former police officer and a part time fireman.

So in your opinion republicans spit on the graves of the FF's that died in 911????? That is nuts! I personally lost high school friends that were FDNY that day, one of which was also a member of our local vol fire dpt that I was also an EMT with prior to then. His body was never recovered.