One thing that might be a good addition to the 'edge, would be to have a few select citys around the globe and their day's weather forecast. It might give the regulars an idea of what a Torquay summer or winter is like..same for Portugal or Auckland and Sydney.Toto and his far north,and far mild weather city too. He's growing Aloe dichotoma where i thought it was freezing cold in winter...

I think I'll create a new forum, just for weather monitoring, to put these in.

Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:57 am

fitologo

Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:07 pmPosts: 196Location: Lisbon, Portugal

Re: On the edge of an idea...

Stan wrote:

One thing that might be a good addition to the 'edge, would be to have a few select citys around the globe and their day's weather forecast. It might give the regulars an idea of what a Torquay summer or winter is like..same for Portugal or Auckland and Sydney.Toto and his far north,and far mild weather city too. He's growing Aloe dichotoma where i thought it was freezing cold in winter...

Stan, It can be an interesting idea since a great part of the portuguese territory is not that hot. We suffer the influence of the atlantic during all spring and summer and specially wind called 'Nortada' (means from the north) can be quite strong, as much as in Cape Town. And I'm talking about cold winds that can push night temperatures down to 12 or 13ºc. So you should take a look at Porto, Braga and Viana do Castelo (coastal northern portugal's cities) low temperatures during these seasons. You'll be amazed how low they are. Same happens to Vigo and Santiago de Compostela, Oviedo and Pontevedra in Spain. They are even lower and there you can find lush gardens with lots of tropicals. Winters may not be so long here but still temperatures do get low (I'm talking about minus temps and day temps don't go up so much). This year summer has been very very very cool here. Daytime temps go up only till 20 or 21ºc and lows down till 14ºc. Wind is cold and VERY strong, really bad to plants but they do survive even bromeliads. Check on www.weatheronline.co.uk and click on the historic registers. I think you can learn a lot out of it.
From Lisbon to the south summer is much better and even here you'll find chilly nights except in the Algarve. We are an atlantic influenced country so whenever this ocean wants to spoil summer it will do it in the UK but also here.
Nuno

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Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:39 pm

Charles Wychgel

Joined: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:09 pmPosts: 755Location: Algarve/Portugal

Re: On the edge of an idea...

fitologo wrote:

This year summer has been very very very cool here. Daytime temps go up only till 20 or 21ºc and lows down till 14ºc. Wind is cold and VERY strong, really bad to plants but they do survive even bromeliads. Check on www.weatheronline.co.uk and click on the historic registers. I think you can learn a lot out of it.From Lisbon to the south summer is much better and even here you'll find chilly nights except in the Algarve. We are an atlantic influenced country so whenever this ocean wants to spoil summer it will do it in the UK but also here.Nuno

Pretty cool here in the Algarve too Nuno and those d"#m nortadas are driving me crazy, I can't sleep at night and I am paralyzed in the daytime when it come to gardening

Of course living in the "campo" the effect of these strong winds is much worse than in the city

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Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:11 pm

fitologo

Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:07 pmPosts: 196Location: Lisbon, Portugal

Sure is but I live on a 7th floor and my roof garden is on the last and 8th floor and I see everything taking off! Just saw minimum night temperatures in northeastern region (Trás-os-Montes, where the famous mediterranean vineyards are grown to produce Port wine usually VERY VERY HOT) and in Bragança they experienced only 8ºc at the beggining of July!!!! What is going on here?
When we feel 8ºc at night on a normal December or January day in Lisboa or in the Algarve, we think it's really cold, so can you imagine what is to feel the same temperature but when the calender says you are in JULY??????
HATE SIMPLY HATE COLD! NÃO SUPORTO ESTE TEMPO HORRÍVEL DE FRIO E VENTO!!!! AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!

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Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:25 pm

Peter Richardson

Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:16 pmPosts: 1472

Re: On the edge of an idea...

fitologo wrote:

We are an atlantic influenced country so whenever this ocean wants to spoil summer it will do it in the UK but also here.Nuno

Very true.

Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:42 pm

fitologo

Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:07 pmPosts: 196Location: Lisbon, Portugal

Yesterday I was at the beach and I felt I was in Helsinki....cloudy, so windy and it RAINED!!!!!!. That's why we are having a green Irish-inspired landscape in August. Never saw so much green ahahahahhahaha! Only now my plants are showing a bit of growth. Sun is strong but temps are low. And the americans predicted the hottest summer since the millenium for Portugal this year...

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It seems you get a bit of Dutch weather downthere! Well then the Low Countries is certainly not the place for you! And neither is it for me. In this countries this summer we only had about 3 days without rain. Even in Ojmjakon the summer was better...
Lucky you you still live a bit closer to the equetor!

Regards,

Alexander

fitologo wrote:

Yesterday I was at the beach and I felt I was in Helsinki....cloudy, so windy and it RAINED!!!!!!. That's why we are having a green Irish-inspired landscape in August. Never saw so much green ahahahahhahaha! Only now my plants are showing a bit of growth. Sun is strong but temps are low. And the americans predicted the hottest summer since the millenium for Portugal this year...

We had almost one week of over 30ºc here in July. My plants were really watered and took off then. The rest of the summer was crappy but it hasn´t been that windy in the morning and we have been to the beach most every day. I agree that this is the coolest summer I have known here. On the bright side most palms are still growing but the lychee and longan only seem to grow by 30+ºc daytime and 20+ºc night time temps.
Jason

Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:46 am

fitologo

Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:07 pmPosts: 196Location: Lisbon, Portugal

Can I see a picture of your Lichee tree? Please!!!

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Hey nuno,
I always forget to take pictures. Why don´t you just come over? When are you going to be in Aveiro/Vagos again?
Jason

Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:11 pm

fitologo

Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:07 pmPosts: 196Location: Lisbon, Portugal

Thank you Jason, Obrigado pelo convite,
But I am so busy here now with my work at the Botanical Garden I have no chance at all...
Nuno

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