So You Want an Irish Gaelic Tattoo?

So, you want a tattoo in Irish Gaelic, eh? Well, you sure won’t be alone!

One of the things that astounded me when I first started hanging out on Irish discussion forums was the sheer number of tattoo translation requests we got on a regular basis. In fact, close to 80% of all our translation requests were for tattoos!

That’s a lot of ink!

Consequently, I wasn’t too surprised when we began to get requests for information on tattoo translations here.

Why in Irish?

On the Irish Language Forum, where we handle a fair number of tattoo requests, we occasionally ask people why they want tattoos in Irish. What is the appeal? Answers generally fall into five categories:

Personal Heritage

These tend to be people who are of Irish descent and want tattoos in the Irish language to honor their heritage.

Memorials

This is definitely related to the former category. People seeking memorial tattoos often want them in Irish to honor a deceased friend or relative who was proud of his or her Irish background.

Religion/Spirituality

People often associate Irish, rightly or wrongly, with particular expressions of spirituality. We’ll see this especially among neo-pagan and “Celtic Christianity” devotees, though we’ll also see people not affiliated with any particular religious movement who seem to have some spiritual affiliation with Irish symbolism and language.

Esthetics

Some people just happen to think that Irish is pretty (I happen to agree!)

Uniqueness

Some people want particularly common sayings in Irish because they think that will make them stand out among those who choose more common languages. This is the one group I tend to try to discourage.

As I said before, a lot of people request Irish tattoo translations, and many of them request the same translations. If you want something like “None but God may judge me” or “Live, Laugh, Love” in Irish, well…as I said before, you’re going to have a LOT of company.

If you still want it in spite of that, however, by all means, don’t let me stop you!

A popular idea

Regardless of the reason, there’s no doubt that tattoos in Irish are extremely popular, particularly in countries that saw a high level of Irish immigration in the late 19th and early 20th centuries (especially the U.S., Canada, and Australia).

The good news and the bad news

First, the bad news: We really can’t do a tattoo translation for you here. There are lots of reasons (some of which will become clear as you read on), but perhaps the most important is that that this simply isn’t a translation site.

Now, the good news: I’m going to tell you what you need to do (and perhaps most important, what you SHOULDN’T do) to get a good, reliable, translation into Irish for your tattoo, in the quickest and most accurate way possible.

First, and most important, the “don’ts”

Don’t try to do it yourself

I really can’t stress this enough: If you’re not a fluent speaker of Irish, don’t even THINK about trying to do your own translation. I don’t care if you have an Irish-English dictionary. You have almost as good a chance of getting a good translation by cutting all the words out of it and throwing them up in the air.

Irish grammar and syntax is so completely different from English, and the words change so radically depending on how they’re used, it’s virtually impossible for a person who doesn’t speak Irish to put together a grammatically correct (or even coherent) sentence.

Don’t use an automatic (machine) “translator”

Using an on-line automatic translator such as Google Translate or Babelfish may seem like a good idea, but trust me: You DO NOT want to use these services for anything you plan to have written permanently on your body.

Such services can be OK for getting the gist of something written in a foreign language (for example, if you happen to find yourself looking a page in French, you don’t speak French, and you want to get some idea of what it says).

When you want a translation INTO a language you don’t speak, however, you need to know that playing with these automatic translators is like playing with fire. You might get a correct translation, but you can’t count on it — and the rarer the language is, the less likely you are to get anything workable at all.

If you want to get an idea of just how bad “machine translation” can be, check out this post on the subject. If that doesn’t scare you off the entire idea of using something like that for a tattoo translation, perhaps you ought to reconsider the tattoo thing all together!

Don’t trust something you read in a book

I have to tell you up front: I’ve seen some truly horrible Irish in books, from stuff that is simply badly spelled or uses poor/questionable grammar to stuff that isn’t Irish at all, or that is Irish but doesn’t say what the author claims it does.

If you see a phrase, a sentiment, a saying, or even a name, that you like in a book (and this includes books written by Irish authors, by the way), NEVER take it as correct as given. Use the methods I’m going to tell you about below to be sure it’s absolutely correct before even thinking about having it inked.

That goes for jewelry too

Sadly, there’s a lot of jewelry out there (including jewelry sold in Ireland) that has bad Irish on it. The ones that spring immediately to mind are those rings engraved with Mo Anam Cara, claiming it means “My Soulmate.”

Every time I see one of those rings, I want to run down the street screaming. Not only does “Mo Anam Cara” NOT mean “my soulmate,” it’s a grammatical nightmare. If you want to know more about this, check out our post on Irish Endearments (the “Soulmate” discussion is about halfway down the page).

And now for the “do’s”

If you follow these simple “do’s,” you stand a very good chance of getting an Irish tattoo you can be proud of:

Do start looking for a translation WELL in advance of your tattoo appointment.

There’s nothing more horrifying for a translator than to hear “my tattoo appointment is in an hour.” Accurate translation can take a while. It’s best to start seeking your translation a couple of weeks, at least, before your tattoo appointment.

Do exercise caution with translations given you by friends or family

If you happen to know someone who is fluent in Irish, of course, you’re already one step ahead in this game. But do exercise caution, and be sure to get the translation verified by a minimum of two other people.

There are a couple of reasons for this:

Not everyone is as “fluent” as he or she claims. In fact, sadly, I’ve seen “translations” offered by people who clearly have no Irish at all. I don’t know why anyone would do this, but I’ve seen it on more than one occasion.

Even fluent speakers can make spelling or grammar mistakes — and this includes native speakers. Just think how many native speakers of English you know who have poor grammar or are terrible spellers! And even if your source normally has great spelling skills, anyone can make a typo.

Your source may not fully understand the idiom you’re using, especially if the two of you come from different countries (and even if you’re both also fluent/native English speakers). We’ll talk more about idioms in a bit; it’s an important thing to keep in mind.

Do find a reliable source for translation and verification

We’re lucky to live in the internet age, which means you have resources available to you that, even 25 years ago, people could only dream of. One very good resource for tattoo seekers is the internet discussion forum.

The beauty of a discussion forum is that several people of various levels will have the chance to see your request and respond to it.

You’ll want to be careful, though. Not all discussion forums about Ireland or even about the Irish language, will be able to help you. Here’s what you want to look for:

The forum should be one that is willing to do tattoo translations. Not all are. If they are, you will usually find something about tattoos in the forum’s rules or guidelines. If you’re not sure, you can always ask.

The forum should have a good roster of “regulars.” In other words, when you scan the forum, you should see several names that appear again and again. If you only see one or two “repeat posters,” you have less of a chance of getting sufficient learned input to make a good judgment.

The forum should have a good record of timely “answers.” Read through a page or so of posts. Are questions addressed promptly? (say, within a few hours?) Do several people weigh in, or is only one (or perhaps two) people answering all the questions?

As I mentioned before (and not just because I’m affiliated with it), the Irish Language Forum is one good place to start…probably the best place to start as of this writing. It’s frequented by several good Irish speakers, including some native speakers, as well as lots of dedicated learners of various levels.

So, I’ve found a forum. Now what do I do?

Here are a few other important “do’s”:

Do tell the forum up-front that you’re seeking a tattoo translation.

People will tend to be extra-careful with the translation if they know you’re seeking it for something permanent, such as a tattoo. If nothing else, they will be sure to tell you to wait for further input.

Do tell them about other translations you may have received.

If you’ve already received a translation from a friend or relative or another forum, or if you’re asking about something from a book, tell the forum what other translations you have and where you got them.

Please don’t try to “trick” them by just posting the translation and asking “is this correct?” without being clear that it’s a translation you’ve gotten from somewhere for a tattoo.

In any language, there can be many different, but accurate, ways to say something. If you post other translations you may have gotten, the forum can tell you if they’re OK (and if not, why not).

Also, if you’re not clear about the reason you want a particular translation “verified,” the people on the forum might not point out minor grammatical or spelling errors, as they may think you’re trying to learn Irish and not want to discourage you!

Do be flexible

Remember those idioms I mentioned earlier? Every language has ways of saying things that don’t really translate directly into other languages.

For example, the English expression “what goes around comes around” makes absolutely no sense when translated directly into Irish. Instead, we’d say filleann an feall ar an bhfeallaire (“treachery returns to the betrayor”).

Also, direct, word-for-word, translations from one language to another rarely work. I’ve written a bit on why this is so here, if you’re curious.

If you’re willing to be flexible on the exact wording of the translation, you’ll be more likely to get something that actually makes sense in Irish.

Regarding personal names

If you’re using an individual’s name in your tattoo, please be aware that not all given names have Irish forms. Those that do generally come from Irish to begin with, are biblical or saints’ names, or have long-standing association with Ireland.

Even with names that do have Irish forms, it’s not usually done to change them unless the person him or herself typically used/uses that form.

If you really want the name with a special Irish spelling, be sure to ask, but also be aware that it might not be doable.

Do be patient

While you should expect some kind of a reply to your request within a few hours (how long may depend on what time of day you post it and where in the world the forum regulars live), the discussion about the best way to phrase your request may take several days.

Check your post frequently (at least a couple of times a day) to see if there’s any new information. On most forums, if your post gets near to the bottom of the page, you can “bump” it back up to the top by posting a reply to it (sometimes a friendly forum member will even do that for you by posting a reply that just says “bump”!).

Most important of all, DO wait for at least three people to agree on a translation!

I can’t stress this one enough! Translation isn’t always a straightforward science. Also, most forums will allow beginners to attempt translations, as doing so is a great learning tool.

Usually what will happen is someone will take a stab at the translation. Someone else will come along and correct it, or perhaps suggest a better alternative. Eventually, through consensus, a good, workable, translation will be reached.

The golden rule is to wait to proceed with a tattoo, engraving, or any other permanent use of a translation until at least three forum regulars have agreed that the translation is a sound one.

Sometimes this will happen pretty quickly. Some tattoo requests are very common, and it’s a pretty fast matter for three forum regulars to give the translation and confirmations. In other cases, you may be looking at days of discussion to arrive at something three can agree on.

And speaking of worth…

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I love this post. I’m rather impetuous myself but I can’t imagine charging ahead on a tattoo without clear consensus on the translation. This needs to be linked in some tattoo forums or something. Really great post.

Glad you think so, Patrick! I’m always a bit surprised at just how impetuous people can be when it comes to tattoos. I mean, if you’re going to spend the time, money, and pain on getting something made a permanent part of your body, isn’t it worth taking the time to make sure it’s correct?

Er, Michael? You’re wrong. There are three languages that fall into the Gaelic family of languages: Irish Gaelic, Scottish Gaelic, and Manx. In English, the three are typically referred to as (respectively): Irish (the language of Ireland), Gaelic (the language of Scotland), and Manx. If you use “Gaelic” alone, you are assumed to be referring to the language of Scotland. In fact, if you find resources for “Gaelic” (such as a “Gaelic/English Dictionary), it’s the language of Scotland you’ve found. Irish and Scottish Gaelic are related, but they are different languages (much as Spanish and Portuguese are different, but related, languages).

If anyone wants to verify this, you can ask the people at the Irish Language Forum (www.irishlanguageforum.com)…they’ll be happy to verify.

And Michael? You might want to give us a BIT of credit for knowing the distinction, given that we are a website dedicated to the TEACHING of Irish, and the owner is a native speaker of Irish. Just sayin’.

Hi there!
Thank you so much for this post and for clirifying the differences. I myself always thought Gaelic meant the scottish language. Can you recommend a decent sight that for Scottish Gaelic? I want something translated from English to Gaelic for a tattoo?

The Irish Learners/Irish Language Forum does tattoo translations. Registration is required, but it’s free. Go to http://www.irishlearnersforum.com and, once you’ve registered, you can post your request on An Fóram Mór (the main forum). I go by “Redwolf” over there.

Hey so I’m considering getting an Irish tattoo for the phrase “Through the cross to the crown.” which has ties to my families ancestors as a a house motto. The translation I got was “tríd an chros don choróin” and I double checked this with a friend of mine in Ireland however she admits she’s not the best at Irish so I thought I’d make absolutely certain before I get something as permanent as a tattoo. Can someone verify this for me?

I am a moderator in a Japanese language forum and we get a fair share of tattoo requests. Your do’s and don’ts are surprisingly applicable to them. Thanks for giving good ideas how to handle a tottoo question whenever one turns up next time.

I’ve been struggling to find in Gaelic ” I miss you ” in memory of my dad whom was Irish, i have had many translations given to me but none are the same and as it is for a tattoo I really need to be sure.