Wooot? I always had fun at butchering "lower" guilds for their equiped raiders. How can it not be fun stealing maintanks?

I think he meant the peoples own guilds. LFR gives an additional source, and since loot drops are limited, even serious raiding is speed up.
Without LFR you'd have to do additional runs to gear up alts, for them to become valuable alternatives to your core runs, in case someone cannot raid.
There's always a 10 - 20% possibility of people aren't available... 1 - 2 for 10 man... 2 - 4 for 25 man.
LFR helps keeping the flow going even for the more serious raids.

Because I am not feed the troll ass that you are? You come into every thread looking to bash people is your life so sad you have nothing to do with your 19k post count?

What kind of reply do you expect with answers like that, exactly?

Originally Posted by Nathane

Back on topic everyone thinks we can't do that because the casuals will threaten to leave! Honestly getting more hardcore guilds on twitch streaming and getting the game out there will bring the subs up. People not becoming bored and always on improving their character will improve subs. I hate this counter argument " Casuals will leave QQ "

Because casuals represent the biggest money in purely financial terms, whether you like it or not. Hardcore raiders were always a minority even in BC and they wouldn't be able to pull our the financial leverage that Blizzard needs to run, not to mention develop new things.

It kind of does. I never see casuals running streams on twitch or talking with the community. Don't come in a thread and bash people like you are 12 years old. Making this game difficult will make people flock back to it.

Not like the viewer count of all wow-related streams together amount to any number remotly relative compared to the number of casuals out there.

The removal of the global LFG channel was never about spam it was about making it harder to form groups and forcing you into LFD to carry others

Exept there were ... what? 14 months between the two incidents? And you see there a connection? The removal of the lfg-channel was at the end of BC I think, and the LFG-tool was mid-Wrath. Perhaps it was more like "Lets get rid of the lfg-channel and replace it with some server-internal-lfg-tool to form groups" (this tool never really worked for me)

Originally Posted by Sensa

CRZ is really just a lazy and obnoxious way to solve terrible server management issues
Discuss.

What issues? Please clarify that. If on my server (which is a small server) I see more people while leveling (it is a MMO after all, it is supposed to be played with other human beeings, not alone. You don't like that? I suggest you back to a single-player game.

Originally Posted by Nathane

No more heroic modes! Every boss is hard as it is presented with.

I'd rather like more difficulty levels, not just two (why are they even calld "normal" and "heroic" instead of "easy" and "hard"? Must be some psychological effect because some players might feel bad because they only beat the game on easy mode?)

Originally Posted by Nathane

Crafting gear from raids costing more and increasing their usefulness.

I would very much like a more diverse and really useful set of crafting professions. Currenty I feel that it is not really great. Much room for improvements there.

I'm still waiting on his armory and wth HE CALLED ME A CATA RAIDER really? LMAO cmon guy LET ME SEE I need to go play AC III like can you provide this thread right here how amazing you truly are?

I'll give this 5 mins -.- while I play Fruitninja

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Ahahaha!?!?!?!?! LOOK look he can't even provide his armory LMAO AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH hahahahah!!!! cmon you can do better this is this a joke? LMAO I bash people like you because you think you're amazing when your truly not; Like you can't even provide one single of evidence of good you are and you call me sad? LOL

All I ever see about you in every thread is "Look at me Look at me i'm important."
Without ever contributing anything to the discussion. I never put my toon up on a public forum.

Because casuals represent the biggest money in purely financial terms, whether you like it or not. Hardcore raiders were always a minority even in BC and they wouldn't be able to pull our the financial leverage that Blizzard needs to run, not to mention develop new things.

Heck, even the hardcore raiders are pretty well satisfied nowadays, they accepted the game for what it is.

Totally agree brother. They need to stop handing out epics that took you 5 mins of AFKing in LFR to get. I want:

LFR removed.

LFG removed.

Dungeon/raid attunments back.

Crafting gear from raids costing more and increasing their usefulness.

No more heroic modes! Every boss is hard as it is presented with.

More single boss raids.

Taking away LFR and LFG will really bring the community back I think. Shit I know it will when things become hard again they become cool again. It took you 2 weeks to get that epic? Nice! it now means something.

Why in the hell would you want to return to those days? Attuning every new raid member, spamming trade for a HC dungeon group, being forced back into trade when you wiped and someone left. Most of us have grown up, and don't have the time for that shit. The changes they made to those were QoL changes and they only helped to improve the game.

The only thing I'd remove from the current crafting is the starter 476 epics, those are too easy to craft (though they're garbage anyways). The epic patterns after that drop from raids and required materials from raids, so that's perfectly fine. I'm okay with the power of those crafted pieces as well. Single boss raids would be cool, but I don't see how that would benefit the game much...people would just complain that it was "too short" and a "waste of resources". Because the playerbase is a bunch of whiny shits.

As for heroic raiding, I don't see what's wrong with that either. With no shared lockouts you choose how to progress, and you aren't forced to do both weekly as a HC raider. Heroic raiding is like the normal raiding of the past, with normals allowing casual guild to progress and see content and LFR allowing for new players or ones who simply don't have the time to also see content. That is a wonderful thing. The game should be accessible to all players, not just those with the time and dedication. Those with time and dedication are rewarded with better gear, achievements and (hopefully more to come in MoP) mounts and other vanity items.

No, your proposed changes would push more people AWAY from the game. It wouldn't bring anyone back.