TRT USE

I am not saying something shouldn't be done with TRT use whether regulate it or ban it but it is embarrassing for fighters who lose to TRT users to complain about the use.

In the past 3 years both Sonnen and Belforts only losses have come to Silva and Jones. So if Sonnen and Belfort were able to beat Bisping on TRT why couldn't they beat Silva or Jones? Did the TRT make them that much better or is it the fact that even using TRT you still need skill and talent to win fights and maybe they just have more of it than Bisping or the other fighters they beat.

Henderson uses TRT is that why he beat Machida? Oh wait he didn't or Frank Mir is that why Mir beat Dos Santos or Cormier.. oh wait he didn't.

Whether TRT should be regulated or deemed illegal I can't say and they will finally make that decisions but past instances of TRT users getting destroyed against better competition should make the fighters who lose to them crying mute.

I am not saying something shouldn't be done with TRT use whether regulate it or ban it but it is embarrassing for fighters who lose to TRT users to complain about the use.

In the past 3 years both Sonnen and Belforts only losses have come to Silva and Jones. So if Sonnen and Belfort were able to beat Bisping on TRT why couldn't they beat Silva or Jones? Did the TRT make them that much better or is it the fact that even using TRT you still need skill and talent to win fights and maybe they just have more of it than Bisping or the other fighters they beat.

Henderson uses TRT is that why he beat Machida? Oh wait he didn't or Frank Mir is that why Mir beat Dos Santos or Cormier.. oh wait he didn't.

Whether TRT should be regulated or deemed illegal I can't say and they will finally make that decisions but past instances of TRT users getting destroyed against better competition should make the fighters who lose to them crying mute.

Sonnen and Belfort beat Bisping because they are a bad stylistic match up for him. I would have picked them both to win without TRT. TRT isn't meant to give you an edge, it's meant to prevent other fighters with normal testosterone levels from having an edge over you. The UFC is testing fighters throughout training camps to prevent them from maintaining higher than normal levels. As long as that is happening, I don't see the problem. It would be a good idea for Bisping to get his levels tested and get a TRT exemption himself if they are below normal.

I am not saying something shouldn't be done with TRT use whether regulate it or ban it but it is embarrassing for fighters who lose to TRT users to complain about the use.

In the past 3 years both Sonnen and Belforts only losses have come to Silva and Jones. So if Sonnen and Belfort were able to beat Bisping on TRT why couldn't they beat Silva or Jones?

Uh, because Anderson and Jones are both better than Bisping?

Did the TRT make them that much better or is it the fact that even using TRT you still need skill and talent to win fights and maybe they just have more of it than Bisping or the other fighters they beat.

Are the two options mutually exclusive? Could it be that TRT allows them to be that much better AND you still need skill and talent to win fights? Unskilled, talented hacks on TRT won't be world champions, but skilled, talented athletes on TRT are better than they would be without it.

Henderson uses TRT is that why he beat Machida? Oh wait he didn't or Frank Mir is that why Mir beat Dos Santos or Cormier.. oh wait he didn't.

Congratulations, you have successfully proven that being on TRT doesn't mean you are unbeatable (although, I don't recall anyone ever claiming that it did).

Whether TRT should be regulated or deemed illegal I can't say and they will finally make that decisions but past instances of TRT users getting destroyed against better competition should make the fighters who lose to them crying mute.

No, not really. The fact that cheaters don't always win doesn't change the fact that cheating adversely affects the fairness of a competition.

That being said, I think the real issue people are complaining about is why these fighters need TRT. They go through life ripped for decades and then suddenly discover that they have a testosterone imbalance that is so bad they need medication (but apparently not so bad that it prevented them from getting ripped). What these fighters are really saying is that these guys have burned out their natural T from years of steroid abuse and shouldn't get an exemption for it. Whether it is true or not, that is certainly what they are implying.

Sonnen and Belfort beat Bisping because they are a bad stylistic match up for him. I would have picked them both to win without TRT. TRT isn't meant to give you an edge, it's meant to prevent other fighters with normal testosterone levels from having an edge over you. The UFC is testing fighters throughout training camps to prevent them from maintaining higher than normal levels. As long as that is happening, I don't see the problem. It would be a good idea for Bisping to get his levels tested and get a TRT exemption himself if they are below normal.

Ahhhhh, if it was only that simple, but it's not. There are a lot of layers to this particular onion and intangibles out the wazzoo. This subject is nowhere near as black and white as you make it out to be

Now this is just my opinion,but I see no problem with TRT.I just don't see nothing wrong with enhancing yourself.I know this is not a popular opinion is the eyes of most.I just think if you can make yourself better why in society,sports is this so wrong?

Now this is just my opinion,but I see no problem with TRT.I just don't see nothing wrong with enhancing yourself.I know this is not a popular opinion is the eyes of most.I just think if you can make yourself better why in society,sports is this so wrong?

The issue is in the double standards.

Synthetic Testosterone prescribed by a 'doctor' = OK
Synthetic Testosterone 'prescribed' by meathead at the gym = not OK

Ahhhhh, if it was only that simple, but it's not. There are a lot of layers to this particular onion and intangibles out the wazzoo. This subject is nowhere near as black and white as you make it out to be

The only problem I see is the fact that it's not allow in the first place. Many athletes, maybe as much as half, will spend loads of money and go to great lengths to use without being caught. No matter what rules are in place, people will find a way. Even if they do blood tests, athletes will pay to get stuff that they don't test for. Science will always be ahead of the testing. How about we save everyone the headache and make it allowed? Then it can be supervised by professionals, safety can be ensured, and we'll save a lot of money on the testing. The playing field will once again be even, it just won't be the playing field it was before.

If the pose isn't the same, you can't make an accurate comparison. Is there a difference? A slight one. If anything, Frank looks thinner. More ripped but thinner. His lats and chest look smaller in the "TRT photo".

The only problem I see is the fact that it's not allow in the first place. Many athletes, maybe as much as half, will spend loads of money and go to great lengths to use without being caught. No matter what rules are in place, people will find a way. Even if they do blood tests, athletes will pay to get stuff that they don't test for. Science will always be ahead of the testing. How about we save everyone the headache and make it allowed? Then it can be supervised by professionals, safety can be ensured, and we'll save a lot of money on the testing. The playing field will once again be even, it just won't be the playing field it was before.

Sed, that's some "sick" logic, but I hate to admit, it may be the only way the playing field will ever be level again