suppression. our next guest defense the tough voteridlawsayit is a paramount important that we protect the integrity of the process and make sure voter irregularities and voter fraud is eliminating. joining us now, attorney general of south carolina, great to have you with us.at first, your reaction to what the first lady had to say. >> i obviously disagree with the first lady.with in every state i looked at, georgia, indiana are two states, section five, one is not a section five states.is when they have had laws with a federal id for the voter registration card actually minority that is a went up in subsequent elections and participation.s. lou: when you talk about the five states, those are states because of civil rights transgressions 60 years ago, 50 years ago, they still remain under the watchful eye of the justice department for a revision in their electoral laws or procedures, right?pro >> absolutely. states have asked the federal government permission before they can implement a law thathe affects elections, but in a state passing a law, that she, went up in a state of georgia

ofnlawisremaining the best way oe making sure that people don't come into the country illegally. the risk of an amnesty that is basically all that we are talking about unfortunately is amnesty. every amnesty in the past weather in europe or in then united states has had the effect of attracting more people in the country illegally in the hopes of a future amnesty. lou: years ago i started talking about a rational, humane immigration policy that would take intocy account all of the concerns about displacement of those who were in this country illegally, a due process make a determination of how work permits and legal status occurred. that is not enough.th the activist groups in this country t insist upon one thing, it is remarkable demand in my eyes, they insist upon amnesty and this president is insisting upon amnesty. what is your reaction? >> what i worry about most is not amnesty, but incredibly successful campaign toma stigmatize any immigration enforcementti whatsoever.ha when you have opposition across the country to a program called secure communities which says if you ha

lawspassed,they have their mosthorrible gun massacre. norway, some of the most strictestgunlawsonthe planet, and that got on the island and murdered all of their kids. we have to understand something new is happening. the guns have always been there. we're working hard to keephem out of the hands of kids, but there is something profoundly new. if we don't focus on that e completely miss the issue here. lou: what is that new -- that change that is overtaking us, our society that can lead to this kind -- >> a new phenomenon. lou: what is it? >> never there before. violence injury, particularly video games. the number one trade law enforcement. man-hours, contact our supply system anywhere you want to measure it. one of the leading trainer is a military. i have a best-selling video series were preparing individual citizens to be able to use deadly force at the moment of truth. and from all those perspectives, we know that simulations and visualization and mental rehearsal is absolutely essential to performance on the battlefield. the video games are providing the exact same thin

likely to hit the targetversuslawenforcementand representative ron paul is against all of this. he's saying this is not the answer, this or wellion surveillance totalitarian way to go and total state control he says will be invited into the schools if you're armed teachers. >> ron paul says that. >> representative ron paul is against this. >> use it as a extension of government. >> yeah, he does, i understand the man's point, i'm just surprised to hear this. >> he's vehemently against this. >> not every teacher is so stable, too. i tell you something, i come from a long line of teachers in my family, a lot of stories about teachers. >> send your e-mails-- >> stop it right now, the e-mails are on the way. in a few minutes the latest read on pending home sales for november. and we ask a secondary question, will falling off the fiscal cliff kill this one bright spot in the economy which is housing why can't congress make a deal? it had months to compromise and there's nothiig out there. the dow is down 88. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm b. so now i can be in the