Yes, one of the Assassins Lede or Celia have to use it on Ramza, and he must survive...If he doesnt, then well you have to revive him then try it again...It only can be learned in the battle "At the Gates of Limberry Castle".

Yes Ramza does have to be a squire...but whats wrong with that..i think it is one of his best classes...

I prefer Ramza being a knight with 2 excaliburs With Guts as 2nd ability it ownsCan Ultima also be learnt from the last 2 battles??(It may seem pointless but I'd rather have it for the last battle then never)

My bad. I forgot about a few battles. You can also learn Ultima in the second inside Murond battle, but it's harder to coerce an Ultima. You can also learn it from the Ultima Demons in the Altima battle, but not from Altima because her All-Ultima is different from normal Ultima.

Oh and I believe Alma can learn Ultima in the Chapter 3 battle if you GameShark her in.

You can also learn Ultima while battling Zalbag and his Ultima demon henchmen. Now something else to recall is that Ultima will only ever be cast if ther is a chance of it killing the target. Hence, you need Ramza to be wounded badly. He MUST be a squire for this.

It is a weak spell, but any completionist will want to get it.

-------------------"Seek not the men of old. Seek ye what they sought."

I think it is worth getting..I mean it can deal a fair amount of damage..but that is if you need it..I mean most of the time you could use him for just attacking..that is if you set two swords on him..XP Jeez who else thinks that is one of the cheapest skills?

is ultima worth getting? in my estimation it isn't bad if you want to go the physical path as opposed to the magical path. as the magic spells you learn in the time period you can get ultima are all pretty much stronger.

But if you use that god leveling trick, then what i said was completely useless.