tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8519488391496270073.post3182817423566904277..comments2018-02-18T02:06:19.102-05:00Comments on War News Updates: Iran Deploys Russian S-300 Air Defense SystemWar News Updates Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12034101783150523332noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8519488391496270073.post-35213884117781253682016-05-11T18:37:49.015-04:002016-05-11T18:37:49.015-04:00In 2010, Bulgaria brought an older model S-300P to...In 2010, Bulgaria brought an older model S-300P to a NATO Combined exercise, so Western Militaries have some experience with the capabilities of the older S-300 system.<br /><br />In part, that&#39;s why they are &quot;freaking out&quot; over the S-300/400/500 deployments.Jay Farquharsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03335226520940843630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8519488391496270073.post-1182937685626119932016-05-11T18:03:25.271-04:002016-05-11T18:03:25.271-04:00&quot;The S-300 system was developed to defend aga...&quot;The S-300 system was developed to defend against aircraft and cruise missiles for the Soviet Air Defence Forces. Subsequent variations were developed to intercept ballistic missiles.&quot;<br /><br />https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_(missile)<br /><br />http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-S-300PMU2-Favorit.html<br /><br />Jay Farquharsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03335226520940843630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8519488391496270073.post-56549696471200405832016-05-11T15:09:28.350-04:002016-05-11T15:09:28.350-04:00Fazman,
It seems unlikely the US could be this sy...Fazman,<br /><br />It seems unlikely the US could be this system in the foreseeable future. That&#39;s likely who the system was designed for in the first place. On the other hand, the Israelis have a track record of being considerably more resourceful, have better leadership, and their pilots have better piloting skills. Furthermore they have a history of modifying weapons systems that they purchase. As such, I think it highly likely the planes and other equipment they have is going to be improved versions of what they have purchased. <br /><br />The reason the US has not attacked is liekly twofold. 1.) They want to make a deal with Iran at pretty much any cost to end the conflict. This hasn&#39;t worked because Iran is in no mood to end the conflict and they view such concessions as weakness with only makes tem press harder. 2.)The US lacks the piloting skills, leadership, or proper equipment to penetrate the air defense systems the Iranians had back in 2008 much less now.<br /><br />As for Israel, the problem appears to be excessive deference to America. As I patiently explained to friends and family in early 2008, we did not need to worry about a nuclear armed Iran. Israel would take care of this problem and the pilots would be back home before the United States even knew what happened. In other words, America would not be informed ahead of time as, if they were, Iranian operatives in the US government would warn the Iranian government of the impending operation. As I further explained, the best thing for America to do at this time would be to GET OUT OF ISRAEL&#39;S WAY!! <br /><br />Frankly, I was rather looking forward to the shock on the faces of US leaders as they tried to explain to the microphones and tv cameras of the media. Israel did not act. Now the job is likely going to be much more difficult and costly. <br /><br />Israel knew for some time this system was coming. If they ultimately could not beat it, I think they would have acted before now. Furthermore, even if they don&#39;t have the solution now, they may honestly believe they can have the solution before Iran gets nuclear weapons. <br /><br />We have no way of knowing how close Iran is and I don&#39;t think Israel is going to share anything they know with us as Iranian agents in the US government would reveal everything to Iranian leadership. Essentially the next POTUS is going to have to do some very invasive and very thorough house cleaning at all levels of the US government.<br /><br />Anonymous is correct that if conventional ways to eliminate the Iranian threat are not to be found other means, ballistic missiles perhaps, will be used. I would not expect Israel to sit around and wait for Iran to destroy them. <br /><br />I suppose the only way to &quot;know&quot; why certain leaders in the US, Israel, and other countries behave as they do would be to sit in on their private meetings with various advisors and the only way to &quot;know&quot; how a given conflict would come out would to actually fight it. <br /> B.Posternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8519488391496270073.post-8539511917132706332016-05-11T07:26:56.727-04:002016-05-11T07:26:56.727-04:00Israel will attack targets in Iran with ballistic ...Israel will attack targets in Iran with ballistic missiles (Jericho III). S-300&#39;s won&#39;t make a difference.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8519488391496270073.post-17736706271772081432016-05-10T23:55:59.637-04:002016-05-10T23:55:59.637-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.fazmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12135711110738890345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8519488391496270073.post-67338502779557731062016-05-10T23:54:44.529-04:002016-05-10T23:54:44.529-04:00Israel and the u.s have zero experience defeating ...Israel and the u.s have zero experience defeating state of the art area denial weapons like this<br />I think the reason they havent acted before its installation is wuite simply because they couldnt not without the u.s embedding itself in a regional war it neither needs nor wants<br /><br />I think the weak point in this for the<br />Short term will be the iranian operators<br /> fazmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12135711110738890345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8519488391496270073.post-5884382192618692042016-05-10T18:34:35.079-04:002016-05-10T18:34:35.079-04:00I&#39;m sure Israel has contingencies for this sys...I&#39;m sure Israel has contingencies for this system but it likely has gotten much more difficult than it would have been. Furthermore they&#39;ve known for sometime Iran was goung to get this system. As such, it seems likely they have plans in place to handle the system since they didn&#39;t act before the system was implemented.<br /><br />Of course we can&#39;t &quot; know&quot; where Israel&#39;s preparation is or how good the system is against them until a military confrontation takes place. Hopefully it won&#39;t come to that. <br /><br />Additionally the system as with any military system is going to have a limited useful life before others find ways to circumvent it. As such, it may be premature to assume the window &quot;closed.&quot; <br /><br />I was rather looking forward to the shock and &quot;deer in the headlights&quot; look on the faces of US leaders after Israel solved this problem. Perhaps the shock may extend to Russian keaders when they find their system is ineffective against the Israelis.<br /><br />If Israel is unable to eliminate this through conventional means, I would anticipate non conventional means being used. I don&#39;t expect them to wait around for Iran to destroy them.B.Posternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8519488391496270073.post-72763682191328548782016-05-10T17:21:55.111-04:002016-05-10T17:21:55.111-04:00Well israel that window has now been slammed shutWell israel that window has now been slammed shutfazmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12135711110738890345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8519488391496270073.post-38584967265081221242016-05-10T15:50:20.579-04:002016-05-10T15:50:20.579-04:00Mr. Putin little puppetMr. Putin little puppetAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com