So, I am thinking the whole "no intention of fixing it" may be a little bit of an exaggeration....

No intention of fixing their overarching failed security handling, is what I said.

Not having KRACK fixed until November is an embarrassment. Everyone else had their patches out in early October. It's hard to even explain the extent of the monumental failure on Google's part that a November 6th fix represents.

And remember: That's only for the few Android devices that ever get the November patch level. Most won't. Let me remind you that 0.2% of Android devices run the current version of Android. And let me also remind you that every Windows 10 Mobile device and every iOS device made in the past five years, was already patched a month ago.

I doubt Bill and Joe use their Galaxy Phones for anything more than phone calls. I'm sure not a single byte of personal data is accessed on them. They probably sign in with an alias and just play with Microsoft apps just to see how they work.
They probably use Andromeda devices for transferring secure data.

Buried but found it. Number 16. here it says 30 days and so on so forth

For some reason the link is broke, but you get the point...

Awesome! Thank you sir!

I might just get it to play around with to see if I like it enough to stay with W10M. If the camera was better, I probably would without hesitation. However, that and the ultra large size are making me hesitant. I'm coming from an ATIV SE and the Pixel 2 is almost the exact same dimensions and just comfortable one-handed. (I have small hands). The X3 is going to be a beast for me. But I really am not fond of Android (or Google as a company).

I might just get it to play around with to see if I like it enough to stay with W10M. If the camera was better, I probably would without hesitation. However, that and the ultra large size are making me hesitant. I'm coming from an ATIV SE and the Pixel 2 is almost the exact same dimensions and just comfortable one-handed. (I have small hands). The X3 is going to be a beast for me. But I really am not fond of Android (or Google as a company).

Ugh, decisions, decisions...

Selling my Essential phone tonight actually. Hopefully I sell some of my others off too. Placed my order already. Wish you the best. The cameras on the pixel 2's are only going to get better as Oreo updates get pushed.

So I have one now. The store manager told me they came in two weeks ago but no one asked for them until today. Two weeks isn't going to kill me but it adds to more frustration that if HP and Microsoft together can't figure out when they're selling something that this platform was never going to survive. One of the guys in the store also said the platform has been pretty much dead since January of this year. He pulled out his 1520 and said he loved it but suggested I start taking a look at the Samsung Androids as that was Microsoft's future direction.

So I have one now. The store manager told me they came in two weeks ago but no one asked for them until today. Two weeks isn't going to kill me but it adds to more frustration that if HP and Microsoft together can't figure out when they're selling something that this platform was never going to survive. One of the guys in the store also said the platform has been pretty much dead since January of this year. He pulled out his 1520 and said he loved it but suggested I start taking a look at the Samsung Androids as that was Microsoft's future direction.

That being said - he was excited I was buying one.

WOW, even Microsoft Store associates suggesting people buy Androids? The writing isn't just on the wall, it's in stone :(

So sad. I was gung ho on getting an Elite X3 for Verizon but one can't help but feel deflated at this point.

So sad. I was gung ho on getting an Elite X3 for Verizon but one can't help but feel deflated at this point.

Get one. This is going to sound ridiculous - but I've been playing for it for about 10 minutes and this is an awesome phone. The build quality feels really solid. The dock is an absolute brick - and I didn't realize it even came with a built in gigabit port. It feels similar in my hand to my wife's 7s plus only the iPhone has a metalic back vs the rubberized x3 back.

Coming from an Icon, the UI seems more responsive. I never thought the Icon was sluggish, but the transitions on screen feel snappier on the x3.

After reading in here that it was out of stock, I had to call Microsoft. And yes they are out of stock but can be found in some of their stores, except it seems here in Arizona they show out of stock. But I will call my local store and see if that's true. But the Microsoft rep. did say the phones were going to have more in stock next month and are suppose to be a new model. ?? I don't know how true that is but if anyone here who has better connections than me could find out that would be awesome.

Get one. This is going to sound ridiculous - but I've been playing for it for about 10 minutes and this is an awesome phone. The build quality feels really solid. The dock is an absolute brick - and I didn't realize it even came with a built in gigabit port. It feels similar in my hand to my wife's 7s plus only the iPhone has a metalic back vs the rubberized x3 back.

Coming from an Icon, the UI seems more responsive. I never thought the Icon was sluggish, but the transitions on screen feel snappier on the x3.

Are you able to comment on the app loading and responsiveness. Apps on my ATIV SE like FB Messenger take forever to load up. Also how is the camera?How is the sound out of the front speakers? What are your thoughts on the display? How bright is it?

I love that the Windows Mobile phone that Windows Central editors said nobody wanted is out of stock in less than 24 hours. Maybe Microsoft even might notice there's a huge demand they're just not filling.

I love that the Windows Mobile phone that Windows Central editors said nobody wanted is out of stock in less than 24 hours. Maybe Microsoft even might notice there's a huge demand they're just not filling.