I always found it a bit strange the way some atheists are active atheists. They go out and debate, and talk about how much they don't believe in God. I think it's okay to do it just because you are sick of religious people, and want to be around like-minded invidiuals or something, but other than that, it seems pointless. It just makes no sense to me. Now I know if some religious nut starts challenging you, then obviously you are going to defend, but deliberately going out of your way to debate God, creation, etc, just seems like a waste of time in my opinion. Anyone else feel this way?

I recently saw this video on youtube by bigthink where Neil deGrasse Tyson talks about this. He basically speaks my mind. He only gets into the part of that I am talking about at around 2:20, but the rest of the video is excellent also. Enjoy (hope the link works, first time posting video)

(02-09-2012 01:37 PM)Magoo Wrote: I always found it a bit strange the way some atheists are active atheists. They go out and debate, and talk about how much they don't believe in God. I think it's okay to do it just because you are sick of religious people, and want to be around like-minded invidiuals or something, but other than that, it seems pointless. It just makes no sense to me. Now I know if some religious nut starts challenging you, then obviously you are going to defend, but deliberately going out of your way to debate God, creation, etc, just seems like a waste of time in my opinion. Anyone else feel this way?

I recently saw this video on youtube by bigthink where Neil deGrasse Tyson talks about this. He basically speaks my mind. He only gets into the part of that I am talking about at around 2:20, but the rest of the video is excellent also. Enjoy (hope the link works, first time posting video)

Most "active atheists" are really religious people and like all religious people they want their time in the sun. They want to rule the world and make everyone believe the way they do. Religious thinking needs to stop entirely. If it does not, we will not advance as a civilization and, ironically, we will never come to understand God.

(02-09-2012 01:58 PM)Egor Wrote: Most "active atheists" are really religious people and like all religious people they want their time in the sun. They want to rule the world and make everyone believe the way they do. Religious thinking needs to stop entirely.

You still think that Atheism is a religion?

(02-09-2012 01:58 PM)Egor Wrote: If it does not, we will not advance as a civilization and, ironically, we will never come to understand God.

(02-09-2012 01:58 PM)Egor Wrote: Most "active atheists" are really religious people and like all religious people they want their time in the sun. They want to rule the world and make everyone believe the way they do. Religious thinking needs to stop entirely. If it does not, we will not advance as a civilization and, ironically, we will never come to understand God.

I disagree. I am vocal about my atheism because I know that it will better the world. And please, define how we are religious.

(02-09-2012 01:37 PM)Magoo Wrote: I always found it a bit strange the way some atheists are active atheists. They go out and debate, and talk about how much they don't believe in God. I think it's okay to do it just because you are sick of religious people, and want to be around like-minded invidiuals or something, but other than that, it seems pointless. It just makes no sense to me. Now I know if some religious nut starts challenging you, then obviously you are going to defend, but deliberately going out of your way to debate God, creation, etc, just seems like a waste of time in my opinion. Anyone else feel this way?

I understand that point of view - it is very valid. Then again one may wish to consider change. To some, change might be perceived as proactive damage control. To others, change might be perceived as damage itself, laying waste to present value. In my view, Atheist activism might be akin to graffiti. Some find it just great, others are indifferent, while others feel it is just vandalism. I suppose it all depends how one views change.

A new type of thinking is essential if mankind is to survive and move to higher levels. ~ Albert Einstein

As my very wise friend, ^^^ Kim taught me, and once said, "if you pull the rug out from under someone, they may fall. If you lead them to the edge, they can step off". The deconstruction of a worldview is complex, and multi dimensional. Each point in the complex construction of the worldview is related to each of the others, as shown in these.

Insufferable know-it-all. God has a plan for us. Please stop screwing it up with your prayers.