: I have used the Eljer PF/2 toilet. I was not happy with it. They have promised a redesigned bowl soon. I have not tried the Western PF/2 toilet yet. I found the PF/2 to be more similar in noise to the Flushmate than to the gravity toilets. Terry

: : Have you experienced toilet with the P/F 2 Energizer system. You do not mention a specific toilet that includes one on your Buyers guide. The manufacturer claims it is quiter than the Sloan-- as quiet as a gravity flush-- and works at leass as well. Are these claims true? I do not want to believe it without third party confirmation. ( In our last house we had installed an Amercian Standard toilet with a Sloan Flushmaster, which worked well enough, but was far too loud )