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To add a little more context to yesterday's announcement that the Wii had outsold the 360 worldwide, we have August's NPD numbers courtesy of 1up. From the article: "The story hasn't changed much -- Wii remains on top, PlayStation 3 continues to have trouble gaining steam and Xbox 360 maintains a position behind Wii but gaining momentum as the fall season moves into gear-- but the numbers have shifted. Encouraging news for Microsoft, however, as Xbox 360 moves nearly 100,000 more units compared to last month's 170,000, while Madden NFL 08 pushes 896,600 boxes and BioShock moves 490,900 copies -- impressive numbers for the Xbox 360 platform, software-wise. Nintendo must be happy with the performance of Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, as the latest sci-fi Samus Aran shooter managed 218,100 copies in late August, with Wii Play (released in January) only beating it by nearly 50,000 units."

Poor Playstation 3. It Really is sad to see something with so much potential get burried. I really do wish Sony would pull it together, as the PS3 is still may favorite. But what good are favorites when you can't play what you want.
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Sony has another shot at the PS3 bypassing all the others. I haven't looked at the latest numbers, but last I saw the PS2 was still outselling all 3 current-generation consoles. And with backwards compatibility (even the newer software PS3s) very good, the PS3 could still be a sleeper hit if Sony can get the price down and the advertising budget up. They could even create a "movie bundle" that includes a Blu-Ray remote and movie, as opposed to a "game bundle" that includes an extra controller and a game.

No wifi gc games, no GB player. Mostly because the hardware is very similar to the GC. Like the PS2 and early PS3 it essentially contains the same chip set and does BC through hardware. However unlike the PS2 and PS3 it's essentially using the same hardware layout but with more modern variants. Sort of like how x86 computable machines achieve Backwards computability, the chips are just built around the old chip set.

The GC had no wifi at all. What it did have was a broadband adapter. There was one game that really supported it, Phantasy Star Online. There were a few games that used it for local multiplayer gaming (F-Zero and Mario Kart, I think). Those features presumably don't work on the Wii, since there's no place where you can plug in the broadband (or modem adapter).

Since the Wii sports GC controller and memory card ports, even the weirder games requiring special controllers or other attachments work. Stuff lik

I've just seen the hillarious results of some of the 'backwards compatable' games on a friend's shiny new 80Gb PS3

When making statements like that, it's important to note what firmware revision your friend was using. Each one seems to add significant new emulation capabilities and knocks a few more titles off the incompatible list. The latest (1.93, which fixes a few glitches in 1.92 released last week) looks pretty nice.

Considering how many titles there were for the PS2 compared to the original XBox thou

And with backwards compatibility (even the newer software PS3s) very good...

Ok, I'll give you that, but consider for a moment the backwards compatibility of the Wii. It has the Virtual Console, which, for all intents and purposes, could be updated to emulate any older console (well, maybe not any, but you get the point). It's also directly backward compatible with the GCN. If you look at the last generation, a lot of people missed out on the GCN, and this would be their chance to play all those games that they missed out on. However, not nearly as many people missed out on the PS2

The simple reality is that the PS3 is priced well outside what most people are willing to pay for a game system. When the price comes down, sales will improve.The thing is too expensive, period.

Part of that is the rapid inflation of the US dollar. It's price is reasonable to most other markets thus you see the 360 slowing down in those markets as the Ps3 eats the 360's lunch but in the Us the 40% value loss of the US dollar hedged it so that the PS3 is beyond a "reasonable" price. If you compare the price o

Why doesn't this effect Nintendo then? While their hardware is quite a bit cheaper to manufacture one would think that if the value of the US dollar had such a dramatic effect on the PS3s price it would push the Wii's price up a fair bit more.

Poor Playstation 3. It Really is sad to see something with so much potential get burried.

Yeah, I'm all choked up. I think what you actually meant is its delicious just desserts to see an arrogant corporation lose money hand over fist on an overhyped, overpowered, overpriced, Luxury Item they are trying to sell to teenagers. While they are being beat down by an underated(initially anyway), inexpensive, underpowered, happy little fun box from their third place competitor.

Probably because it's twice as powerful and offers features that the 360 especially, touts as "add-ons" (If you add up the add-ons the price becomes comparable).

The potential to find new and creative ways to abuse customers.

You blame the hardware company instead of the software company that used a feature badly, bravo on your ability to shift blame.

The potential to lock buyers into Yet Another Stupid Sony Format.

How so? It only locks developers into this format for PS3 games, which happens to offer the same major features as HD-DVD, oh and it gives twice the storage space. Whose fault is it that some idiots don't take a

This, to me, is even a bigger issue than the difference in processing power. The 360 has a slightly better GPU, which helps, but the PS3 has much more raw available power. (Emphasis on "raw.")

Really, the big deal *is* the BluRay, and not for movies. The fact that Sony included both a hard drive and a BluRay player means the game developer can assume certain things-- a fast hard-drive cache and 50GB of data storage topping the list.

I agree wholeheartedly, and that was my reasoning to grab a PS3 before a 360. At the moment anything I want to play is either cross-platform or a PS3 exclusive, so it was the better choice. As a multimedia center I think the PS3 is also a better choice inherently. I am eying to grab a 360, but I'm waiting for more then the two exclusive titles I'd like to play, which if you are interested are Mass Effect and Fable 2. As for a Wii, the only games I wanna play are the traditional party/multiplayer games, and

It's meaningless how much better the PS3 is as long as MS manages to leave the PS3 in the dust in terms of installed base.

Some analyst predicted that Sony sold of one of their divisions to be able to sell the PS3 at $399. If that's true it might save the console because unlike the original Xbox Sony does enjoy a strong brand and a PS3 at a competitive would probably be able to get enough games and sales to at least catch up with the 360.

Yeah, the kind of "lets blow it up to 50Gb and hype that we need it" kind of games. Simply go back to unompressed wav, bmp and avi and you'll fill it up in no time flat. You see the exact thing going on with Blu-Ray where they're trying to push LPCM over DTS, since they need something to eat the extra 20GB of space. Nevermind that 1.5Mbps/6ch = 512kbps/stereo, which is twice what iTunes' high quality songs are, and twice that again what most people seem happy lis

1- When the Xbox 360 was launched, it was too early to have HD-DVD on it (not technically possible I hear?)2- If it had, it would probably be as expensive as the PS3, and would fail terribly (like the PS3 is failing, or probably worse due to having a weaker brand name)

It's up to the developers to handle this sort of thing. If there is no HD, you load everything each time. If there is one, cache the important stuff on it. If the user chooses the cheap-ass version of the console, then they can put up with the inconvenience.Similarly, once the HD-drive takes off, I'm sure you will see games coming on either format. If you have an HD-drive, you can buy the single-disc version. If you don't, you buy the one on 3 DVDs. Don't some games on the 360 already come on multiple

10 GB of *uncompressed* audio data in 11 different languages. Seems more like a marketing ploy by Sony than anything..."hey guys, games are now bigger than a DVD! you need a PS3 if you want to play them!"

1) I'd rather hear uncompressed audio than lossily-compressed audio.2) I'd rather have the processor doing other things that actually have an impact on the fun of the game rather than uncompressing audio.

The manufacturer doesn't have to waste resources making 11 different versions of the same game. Stores don't have to waste shelf space stocking multiple version of the same game. Consumers have their choice of the language they want without having to search out their preferred version. Reselling the game after you use it is easier since the market will be larger than it would for any one language version.

IMO it's not about HD-DVD etc I just hate being charged extra for basic functionality let's say I want the system and 2 controllers and rechargeable batteries.With the PS3 you buy aPlayStation 3 (60GB) $499.99Playstation 3 Wireless Sixaxis Controller $39.99 (Includes rechargeable battery).2nd PlayStation 3 USB Controller Charger Cable $4.99 or less it's just a USB cable. (Don't need but this way you can charge both at the same time...)

...which ignores the fact that $250.00 gets you a playable system, and you can add the extras on as your time and budget allow. You don't have to drop $599 (the cheap $499 units are sold out) in one lump payment but get to spread it out.

Latest/. discussion has been focused entirely on hardware numbers. Lately it has been Wii > 360 > PS3.

One thing is for sure, in terms of software, the 360 is top dog. This system flat out moves games. With Halo3 coming out in a little over a week, expect the 360 to have record quarterly numbers.

I'm not sure if Halo 3 coming out will cause a huge spike in system buying though... Wouldn't Halo fans have already purchased the system, knowing the game would be coming?

I'm also quite amazed at how well the Xbox 360 is doing in terms of software. Personally I only own a few games for the system, as I mostly play Live Arcade games. I hope that more and more publishers take a look at those numbers, so we can continue to see more game choices on the 360.

"I'm not sure if Halo 3 coming out will cause a huge spike in system buying though... Wouldn't Halo fans have already purchased the system, knowing the game would be coming?
I'm also quite amazed at how well the Xbox 360 is doing in terms of software. Personally I only own a few games for the system, as I mostly play Live Arcade games. I hope that more and more publishers take a look at those numbers, so we can continue to see more game choices on the 360."

No, if you look internationally is exactly what the GP post said. If you look specifically at market sectors you can come up with your order. But the fact is...a developer is going to look at these numbers and say, "Even though the Wii has sold more hardware, a blockbuster game sells better on the 360 then it does the Wii." That is dangerous for Nintendo.

Expenses for developing a Wii game are lower so you don't need as many sales to reach break-even.

Also a developer starting a game now will look at the hardware growth to see what the userbases will probably be like by the time the game is done so the Wii's higher per-month sales make it look much more attractive.

Yeah, the 360 definitely does that, partly by virtue of, you know,/having some/. This brings up a good point, though, with regards to the two consoles. The 360 is targeted at the hardcore gamer segment, and those individuals are probably far more likely to buy(or at least rent) most 'important' games on the console. I would think that Wii owners, if they're actually budget conscious etc(as it's been suggested they are), might invest in less games over the same period of time. Obviously, this is all just sp

One thing is for sure, in terms of software, the 360 is top dog. This system flat out moves games.

I've seen this claim quite a bit and it stands to reason; xbox appeals to hardcore gamers and they buy lots of games. But I've been wanting to seen some actual hard numbers.

Unfortunately, my searches done just now did not find me the numbers I wanted - all time software sales worldwide by console, but I did find one thing that was food for thought. (all numbers from www.vgchartz.com)

For week ending September 8, 2007 the software sales of xbox360 vs wii in America were 993574 vs 615084, while the numbe

Although I am sure that Sony will find some way to spin this in a good manner, I can't imagine they will be too happy that sales have actually decreased from July. With the expectation that the 60 GB version with true backwards compatibility would only be around for a short time, I am certainly surprised there wasn't a longer spike in sales. There might be some increase in sales due to high profile games like Lair and Heavenly Sword In September, but all signs point to these being disappointing and may do nothing to drive sales.

I am not shocked to see Xbox 360 sales increase. Bioshock is an amazing game, and as the de-facto console of hardcore gamers, the Xbox 360 version of Madden certainly helped sales. With Halo 3 only days away, I would expect the Xbox 360 will finish off the year with units flying off the shelf (and I would expect that sales will rival the Wii for the rest of the year).

The Wii continues to have strong sales, hampered by a continuing lack of supply. Nintendo will be happy with the sales of Metroid, and I imagine this game will continue to be a top seller for the next year or two. I'm betting Nintendo has started to hoard some units for the upcoming Christmas rush, so probably the rate of sales will be steady until November.

Only reason there are few games is because all the game developers/publishers did not want to touch the Wii with a 10' pole before release of the system. They all thought it would flop. The two or three publishers that took the chance on it are making lots of money now as a result while everyone else is playing catch-up. There are something like 68 games due out in the next 3 months. Essentially every major and minor developer/publisher has at least one or two games arriving in this time-frame because it ta

Obviously this doesn't reflect the entire catalog. It does, however, suggest that the Wii catalog is selling just fine. The linked article only listed number of units for the top 10 games. There, the 1.3M games units were sold for the 360 vs. the 0.7M game units for the Wii. But the top ten has only 2 360 titles vs. 4 titles for the Wii. Obviously, the market thinks that the Wii has a decent catalog

If you look at Metacritic it will show you every 360 game, & PS3 game including the Live arcade ones and an occasional Japanese import, but you will not see reviews for Wii Virtual console games. These games do get reviews from various outlets, do cost money, and do bring value to Wii owners, so why are they excluded? Castelvania: SoTN shows up, why not Mario64 ?

Well compare to any other game you like then. Madden on the X360 outsells all the Wii titles in the top ten combined. Bioshock outsells the top 2 Wii games combined.
I agree that you would expect a game like Madden to sell better on the 360 but given there are supposed to be about the same number of each system out there it looks like in total a lot more 360 owners buying games than Wii owners.
To me it's the biggest challenge Nintendo faces, lots of people are picking up a Wii but how many are simply stick

That's exactly my experience. I have a Wii and a 360. The only games for the Wii that I have are Wii Play, Twilight Princess, and Super Paper Mario. There seems to be a dearth of good Wii games, as most seem to just be a bunch of mini-games, movie adaptations, TV adaptations, or silly little games. The only game that has actually interested me these past few months has been Metroid. Sure, people will say that good games will come out in time, but jeez, it's already been 10 months. They should have some good

You already named four: Wii Play, Twilight Princess, Super Paper Mario and Metroid. Obviously, there's also Wii Sports, but everyone owns that anyways:-)Other good games are Resident Evil 4 (clearly the best version of an excellent game); Wario Ware (if you like local multiplayer games); Trauma Center; Mario Strikers; The Godfather (actually a crappy game, but the motion control really makes this one a whole lot of fun, same applies to Scarface); Rayman; Elebits; Excite Truck; and Sonic (in my opinion, the

The 360 sales spike is because of the price drop. Any influence Madden 08 and Bioshock had is minimal compared to the effect the price drop had.
The PS3 didn't get this much of a sales surge in their price drop because I think the $499 price is still too much to swallow, and the library is too shallow. But, people are still buying relatively good amounts of PS3s at high prices and few games worth mention. If the PS3 intro's a $399 SKU as is rumored, and if games keep flowing in as planned, all bets are

The rumor, as predicted by analysts, is that the 40GB SKU would intro at $399 and the 80GB unit would drop to $499. The 60GB unit, with the more expensive to produce hardware based emulation, would be completely removed. They've already stopped production on this unit, so this is a given.
The reasoning for the $100 difference is the same as before, more hard drive space and the Motorstorm game bundled, not just hard drive space.
The only factor that would cause an eBay price to be higher than MSRP is lo

The issue many people have with that claim is that the 40GB PS3 would be only marginally cheaper (10$ or less) to make than the 80GB one. There's probably more cost from having to deal with two different bundles than there is money saved from making the HD 40GB. If Sony can sell a 40GB PS3 at 400$ they can sell an 80GB PS3 at 400$.

This Christmas is going to be interesting as far as sales numbers go. While we dealt with the two new systems last Christmas, things have radically changed in only a year. The Wii still sells out quickly, though stores are able to keep it in stock now, but will that last into the holiday season? Added to this is that two AAA titles, Super Mario Galaxy and Super Smash Brothers Brawl, are coming out before Christmas.

DDR: Hottest Party (Or was it Hottest Dance?) comes out in a few weeks on the Wii, too, and will likely be scooped up in droves by the "casual" gamers as it is yet another way to play games without sitting on the couch.

Then the 360 and PS3 have both had hardware changes and price drops, so the general public will be more receptive. And now that there is a larger selection of high-def movies available, both will be interesting to HD buffs (probably more the PS3 than 360 due to integration).

Oh yeah, and how could I forget Guitar Hero III? All three systems. It will be interesting to see which system gets the highest sales for this.

And the DS will still outsell everything. It prints money, after all. (And the DS is getting a Guitar Hero, too)

I don't know about anywhere else in the country (or world for that matter) but as someone that has been "casually" looking locally for a Wii since it launched, I have yet to see *ANY* sitting on the shelf of any store I have been to in South East Texas. This includes Walmart, Target and the like, as well as Hastings (a book and music and movie chain, same people that started and own NetFlix I believe), as well as EB Games and Gamestop.

I don't know about anywhere else in the country (or world for that matter) but as someone that has been "casually" looking locally for a Wii since it launched, I have yet to see *ANY* sitting on the shelf of any store I have been to in South East Texas. This includes Walmart, Target and the like, as well as Hastings (a book and music and movie chain, same people that started and own NetFlix I believe), as well as EB Games and Gamestop.

I don't know, but I've seen shipments at the big electronics retailer (li

Guitar Hero III will be available on all 4 systems, and Rock band will be on all but the Wii. I actually think GH 3 and RB will boost PS2 sales (note necessarily hardware) more than the other systems combined.

You're right, this is going to be interesting. But I don't expect Nintendo to QUITE be able to keep up with demand, although I bet they've been planning ahead for it for some time, they may have put some new production lines on schedule to start up specifically for the holiday season.As for Guitar Hero 3, I'm going to expect that the winner will be the 360, since the system already has two GH games out for it, less Wii owners will have been privilaged to the hype that has been the Guitar Hero series. The PS

Most places like Target and Best Buy have had GH demos out for a very long time now, so the mass populace has had some time to check the game out. I often see the demos in use wherever I go, so they are definitely popular. The extra price for the GH controller might turn off some casual Wii owners (who bought a Wii due to the lower price), but I think a lot of Wii owners are going to pick up this title.

As for Guitar Hero 3, I'm going to expect that the winner will be the 360, since the system already has two GH games out for it

The 360 has one GH game so far, and that would be GH 2 only. The PS2 on the other hand has 3 GH games, and as I said before I suspect GH 3 for PS2 will be the best selling GH 3 version. I also suspect GH 3 and Rock Band will be the reason for many people to finally make the move to PS 3 since they will have controllers available to allow them to play their PS2 versions of GH and have the online content they don't get with the PS 2. The only thing that might stop this from happening is if they don't make

I have to say that while Nintendo is selling lots of Wii's the game is not over yet, developers have to be successful in releasing games on the Wii and see if the demographic which purchased the Wii will bite.

I think the Wii will subsidize the hardcore segment of the market, but I have doubts that the people who bought the Wii for wii sports / Wii play will have much of an interest in hardcore games. I'm taking a wait and see approach. It looks to me like the Xbox and Wii will be king in North america and the PS3 and Wii will be king in Japan.

Nintendo though has been really having problems developing their first party games and the 3rd party software developers have REALLY caught up with Nintendo in terms of game quality.

I was playing Twilight princess and Wind Waker and found myself underwhelmed by it compared to a game like say God of War and God of War 2. They are both action games, but Zelda was not as combat heavy, nor as interesting as other more explorative games.

Twilight princess and God of War don't really have that much to do with each other. If you want more combat than Zelda, then it's not an issue of quality, but an issue of what you want out of a game. You might as well say that neither of the two games has enough zombies, so Resident Evil is better.

There are very few games that try to do something similar to Zelda: I only remember two off the top of my head, the Dark Cloud series and Okami. I'd put dark cloud well under TP, and Okami rather even quality wise.

Meh, I don't think Dark Cloud and Zelda have much in common. I've only played DC2, and only part of it, but it seemed more like a combination of a dungeon crawler and SimCity. There are other games that are able to capture a more similar feel to Zelda. Try Skies of Arcadia, for instance, which is a straight-ahead RPG, but whose dungeon construction and navigation is quite reminicient of a Zelda game. It also has a similar flare for the epic while remaining very innocent. Another one to mention is ICO, which

"Twilight princess and God of War don't really have that much to do with each other."

Nonsense they are both 3rd person combat games with exploration elements. God of war was combat heavy and NPC light. God of war had everything Zelda had, just more complicated combat system and a different theme.

You think Zelda is a 3rd person combat game? WHAT? That's just plain wrong. Zelda is a classic adventure game to the core, while God of War is an action game with some character building thrown in. God of War is much more linear - once you exit one area you can't return. This is in complete contrast with zelda games. Zelda has more in common with a game like Shadow of Colossus than with God of War.I'm not knocking God of War of course. Awesome game. But comparing it to Zelda is useless - they are diff

"That's just plain wrong. Zelda is a classic adventure game to the core"Dude "Adventure", is not even a genre when we're dealing with a 3D action rpg! The only really Adventure games are things like Kings Quest and monkey island. The original Zelda was all about dungeon crawling and fighting (i.e. The original NEs) the 2nd Zelda was again, ALL about dungeon crawling and fighting, with a few NPC's here and there. Zelda 3 was the first time zelda became "an adventure". I lived through all these generatio

The "pure" adventure games, like Kings Quest and Monkey Island (or my personal favourite, Sam & Max) get that label because their core game mechanic involves puzzle solving. The reason I believe Zelda warrants the Adventure moniker is because it too focuses on puzzle solving. Every dungeon in zelda is a large puzzle to be solved - the enemies are just there to get in the way while you solve the puzzle. Even the dungeon bosses usually require tricks to defeat, and themselves are mini-puzzles.GoW on th

Sorry you're wrong, I've played since the NES days, and Zelda was an action RPG, you're trying to define a game by language and not by it's actual characteristics (where is the fun had?)

God of war had secret / special rooms and exploration ('adventure') elements as well. The truth of the matter is Twilight princess and god of war are combat heavy games so the combat better be fun and in TP it wasn't that great because the common enemies were just awful.

I have to say that while Nintendo is selling lots of Wii's the game is not over yet, developers have to be successful in releasing games on the Wii and see if the demographic which purchased the Wii will bite.
I think the Wii will subsidize the hardcore segment of the market, but I have doubts that the people who bought the Wii for wii sports / Wii play will have much of an interest in hardcore games. I'm taking a wait and see approach. It looks to me like the Xbox and Wii will be king in North america and the PS3 and Wii will be king in Japan.

I think you've got it half right. I think that either through market research or just by watching sales the software companies are going to come to the conclusion that hardcore games aren't going to sell as well on the Wii as the size of install base would indicate. But while you see this as a reason for them to lean away from the Wii, I suspect it will just mean that they lean away from releasing "hardcore" games on the Wii.

Remember that often times its much cheaper to create games that are non-hardcor

You dare deny the various fanboys their need to vent? Do you realize the catastrophe that would occur if the various camps were not allowed to spout their reasons for supporting their particular platform on a regular basis? The build up would be... wait, if we could harness that energy... nah, they need uncontrolled reactions. Let the fanboys have their fun. After all, we don't have to click on any link that is not of interest.;)

You dare deny the various fanboys their need to vent? Do you realize the catastrophe that would occur if the various camps were not allowed to spout their reasons for supporting their particular platform on a regular basis? The build up would be... wait, if we could harness that energy... nah, they need uncontrolled reactions.

I posted it yesterday, but as its almost the same story, I will post almost the same comment:

(insert submitter's name) writes in to tell us that (insert URL) is reporting that the Nintendo Wii has sold (x) number of units, barely itching out past the XBox 360, which has sold (y) units. Both are still well outselling the poor Sony PS3 which has only sold (z).

Automated comments:Score 3, Funny - And is anyone surprised by this
This must generate a thread of at least 10 posts

Sore 4, Interesting - If Sony would stop (insert profanity) their developers, maybe PS3 sales would be stronger.
This must generate a thread of at least 15 posts.

Score 2 - I just bought a PS3 because it was a cheap BluRay player.

HD Format Wars Automated news generator:(insert submitters name) writes in to tell us that (insert URL) is reporting that (Company X) has decided to go with the (insert format name). Recent sales figures shows that BluRay is currently outselling HD-DVD (y:z)Article approver will comment: "I am just waiting on (insert movie) to be released, that will get me to decide which format to go with..

Mandnatory comments must include:Score 5, Interesting / Funny- The Porn industry has decided to go with HD-DVDthis must generate a thread of atleast 20 replies

Score 3 - I just hope BluRay wins out, not because of the format, but because I want the storage capacity.

Score 4, Informative - Neither format will win, both will quietly die, because there is not a significant enough improvement over DVD to justify a format war. The reason DVD won over VHS is because there was a huge technology leap. We are still on discs here, the next big leap will be with downloadable content, not HD-DVDThis must generate a thread of atleast 20 replies, some agreeing, some disagreeing, at least one funny comment with will spur a whole other conversation not remotely related to the story

The worst is those that are consistently modded up by Microsoft fanboys such as:+5 Insightful:The PS3 is too expensive, Sony keeps shooting themselves in the foot, the PS3 has NO games

+4 Insightful:The Wii has no games. The XBox is the console for hardcore gamers. The XBox has better graphics.

Honestly, these comments are just FUD. Of course the XBox 360 will have more games. The PS3 is better value that an XBox 360 with the same spec. The Wii is going for a different demographic and what exactly is "ha

You know what is interesting? The real winner in the "console" wars, although many may not realize it, is the PC:1. Vast library of titles available and also has titles available on multiple consoles (vs. PS3's dearth of a game library)

2. Option to have non-faulty hardware (vs. XBOX 360 "red ring of death"; btw, I'm not saying all have it--mine is in an extremely well ventilated area and I have no problems)

3. Superior graphics capabilities. Being able to play Oblivion at resolutions 1280x1024 and up--g

And you claim that makes it outsell nintendo and the xbox? Ok by that logic it's correct that it outsells xbox but if you're going to compare it to nintendo it's a little bit of a double standard if you take all three systems and compare it against only the wii OR it DS... by your line of reasoning shouldn't we combine all nintendo platforms and get 403.6 + 383.3 = 786.9k so you should be saying

"the nintendo family is outsellin the sony family and the xbox gg xbots and ps3tards"

If you want to troll at least try not to look so obvious (and just for the record the only console i currently own is a PS3)