Comments on: Jeff Samardzija finally has a winhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/26/jeff-samardzija-finally-has-a-win/
Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball.Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:44:12 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: jeffbbfhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/26/jeff-samardzija-finally-has-a-win/comment-page-1/#comment-712116
Wed, 28 May 2014 04:11:14 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523013#comment-712116OMG, you are such a friggin’ tool. Get a sense of humor and leave your holier than thou crap at the knitting bee.
]]>By: keltictimhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/26/jeff-samardzija-finally-has-a-win/comment-page-1/#comment-711472
Tue, 27 May 2014 10:20:42 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523013#comment-711472You can disagree with me without being a lil Richard. Well maybe you can’t, but you could try.
]]>By: keltictimhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/26/jeff-samardzija-finally-has-a-win/comment-page-1/#comment-711471
Tue, 27 May 2014 10:19:55 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523013#comment-711471I was only making the point that the pitcher is the closest thing to one person who can control wins and losses in a game. Is it perfect? Absolutely not. Is their another player that so closely influences the win or loss of a game? No, there isn’t. I also thought I made it pretty clear that teams don’t put much stock in it at all, well until a pitcher wins 20 or some high number, then it’s good PR all around.
]]>By: moogrohttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/26/jeff-samardzija-finally-has-a-win/comment-page-1/#comment-711463
Tue, 27 May 2014 06:54:26 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523013#comment-711463Hawk is painful. But the Adam Dunn home run to beat the Yanks was pretty funny.

PIOTB, yyeaaaaaa…yes!…yes!………………HELL yes!!

]]>By: kardshark1http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/26/jeff-samardzija-finally-has-a-win/comment-page-1/#comment-711415
Tue, 27 May 2014 01:51:55 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523013#comment-711415“I’ve watched dozens of games announced by Hawk Harrelson.”

If you didn’t have the mute button on, this is the most astounding statement about baseball that I’VE ever heard.

]]>By: infieldhithttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/26/jeff-samardzija-finally-has-a-win/comment-page-1/#comment-711406
Tue, 27 May 2014 01:22:36 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523013#comment-711406…Samardzija is having a bad year because he only has one win, and so he must be doing something wrong?
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Tue, 27 May 2014 01:20:47 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523013#comment-711405A good example is Chris Sale, who had pretty similar numbers the last two seasons, except for his record. And if you put that much stock in pitcher wins, you’d assume he was that much better in ’12 than he was in ’13.

We’re two months in the season, and would anyone in their right mind say that

]]>By: cohnjusackhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/26/jeff-samardzija-finally-has-a-win/comment-page-1/#comment-711398
Tue, 27 May 2014 01:04:13 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523013#comment-711398I think it should be rebranded and inverted. Call it “out percentage” and see if people understand it then.

“Brandon Phillips has 69.3% out percentage while Joey Votto’s is only 59%”

The win/loss count for a pitcher makes sense only in the sense that in a team sport, the pitcher is the most individual player responsible for a win or loss

This is the most astounding inaccurate statement about baseball that I’ve ever heard, and I’ve watched dozens of games announced by Hawk Harrelson.

]]>By: tfbuckfutterhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/26/jeff-samardzija-finally-has-a-win/comment-page-1/#comment-711392
Tue, 27 May 2014 00:53:14 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523013#comment-711392There’s a difference between judging someone on their looks and judging what the choices one makes with the areas they control say about their personality.

And his facial hair broadcasts that one ought not leave their children alone with him.

Which is unfortunate, because I am quite sure that’s not the case with him. So I assume no one has told him that the way he chooses to groom himself projects that image.

If he went to the effort of wearing these glasses I would say the same thing about them as I’m saying about his facial hair.

]]>By: sportsfan18http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/26/jeff-samardzija-finally-has-a-win/comment-page-1/#comment-711389
Tue, 27 May 2014 00:47:51 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523013#comment-711389on base percentage is much more important than batting average.

Brandon Phillips has been around .280 batting this year with an on base percentage barely above .300

Right now, Brandon’s batting average is .281 and his on base percentage is only .307

.307 is NOT very good at all. the NL league average flucutates a bit year to year but it is usually around .331 give or take.

Joey Votto is struggling a bit so far this year from the plate. His batting average is only .257 right now… BUT his on base percentage is .410 which places him 5th in the N.L. so far this season.

Anyone who knows baseball would much have a player getting on base 41% of the time to less than 31% of the time even though the batter with the 31% on base percentage has a much higher batting average.

On base percentage should replace batting average as I want to see how often a player actually reaches base when he comes up to bat, which encompasses MORE than simply batting average. You gotta get on base.

]]>By: kardshark1http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/26/jeff-samardzija-finally-has-a-win/comment-page-1/#comment-711388
Tue, 27 May 2014 00:47:45 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523013#comment-711388Oh, I get it… He doesn’t look like you or the people you hang out with, therefore he’s unlikeable.

Believe it or not, some people judge others on their personality, beliefs and their actions, not their looks.

]]>By: kardshark1http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/26/jeff-samardzija-finally-has-a-win/comment-page-1/#comment-711387
Tue, 27 May 2014 00:42:37 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523013#comment-711387“The win/loss count for a pitcher makes sense only in the sense that in a team sport, the pitcher is the most individual player responsible for a win or loss. If they pitch a great game, it’s generally a win. When they pitch a bad game, it’s generally a loss.”

Wow. You do realize a pitcher could pitch identical “great” games back to back, same pitch for pitch, same exact stuff and movement… Yet one of those games he gets shelled for 10 runs in 5 innings and the other is a no hitter. And also, he might get the win in the game he gets shelled, yet the loss in the no hitter. So does Wins still sound like a purposeful stat?

Tim Lincecum 3 days ago pitched one of he worst games of the year for a Giants’ starter, yet he got the win.

So knowing this, what is the upside of the Win stat? What does it accomplish? There’s absolutely zero truth behind it. When the only reason to keep something is because, “that’s the way it’s always been,” is the only answer, that’s probably not a good reason.

]]>By: musketmaniachttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/26/jeff-samardzija-finally-has-a-win/comment-page-1/#comment-711385
Tue, 27 May 2014 00:39:37 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523013#comment-711385How much does he fight. When the Yankees make him cut his hair in August.
]]>By: keltictimhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/26/jeff-samardzija-finally-has-a-win/comment-page-1/#comment-711382
Tue, 27 May 2014 00:07:14 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523013#comment-711382The win/loss count for a pitcher makes sense only in the sense that in a team sport, the pitcher is the most individual player responsible for a win or loss. If they pitch a great game, it’s generally a win. When they pitch a bad game, it’s generally a loss. Obviously it’s not a definite, but it’s the closest thing there is to one person being responsible for the outcome. If you don’t like it, don’t pay attention to it. Do teams pay attention to it? I’m sure they give it some credence, not as much as others, but some.
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Tue, 27 May 2014 00:02:11 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523013#comment-711380I was kind of hoping he would remain win-less the entire season and win the ERA crown. Heads would explode, Rick Sutcliff would be so confused he would eat himself.
]]>By: Charles Gateshttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/26/jeff-samardzija-finally-has-a-win/comment-page-1/#comment-711379
Mon, 26 May 2014 23:56:45 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523013#comment-711379Disagree. Keep the win stat. It’s the most obvious fool barometer for people that cite it above all else.
]]>By: tfbuckfutterhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/26/jeff-samardzija-finally-has-a-win/comment-page-1/#comment-711377
Mon, 26 May 2014 23:47:49 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523013#comment-711377I really am beginning to think that no one likes that guy.

Anyone who truly liked him would say “Shave your face and/or get a haircut. You look like a child molester.”