Dazzler wrote:So, tell me what the difference is. No link-spamming. Just tell me.

OK! ... I'll have to assume that you're thicker than pigshit!

Peace, Des.

Why do you have to resort to abuse? Why can't you just tell me?

Because the answers are self evident, unless you're a fuckin' idiot!

Why does a 'trading bloc' require a President, a foreign minister, a supreme court capable of over-ruling sovereign courts, an army and the ability to set foreign policy over the heads of sovereign governments?

Generous_J wrote:The 'jackboot' developed your economy, lets see how you fare without. UK Gov already asking for favours: 2 year transition period etc. 'Can we keep this deal', 'can we maintain that agreement?'.

UK is going into recession/ depression.

Rather that, than become a political eunuch!

You do realise you're about to be completely disenfranchised when Juncker implements his master plan?

When individual governments are robbed of their power of veto, you'll do as you're fuckin' well telt! ... Or else!

Generous_J wrote:The 'jackboot' developed your economy, lets see how you fare without. UK Gov already asking for favours: 2 year transition period etc. 'Can we keep this deal', 'can we maintain that agreement?'.

UK is going into recession/ depression.

Rather that, than become a political eunuch!

You do realise you're about to be completely disenfranchised when Juncker implements his master plan?

When individual governments are robbed of their power of veto, you'll do as you're fuckin' well telt! ... Or else!

Peace, Des.

Or... we can disagree at that point, as can all the other EU nations. As could the UK have done.

You have a bizarre fascination with Juncker. Truly bizarre. I suppose you need a figure to latch your wild theories to. He's hardly Senator Palpatine biding his time to reveal he is, in fact, Darth Sidious... The Emperor.

"Jean-Claude Juncker will not seek a second term as European Commission president, once his first mandate ends in 2019."

"In 2014, the European People's Party (EPP) had Juncker as its lead candidate, or Spitzenkandidat, for the Presidency of the Commission in the 2014 elections. This marked the first time that the Spitzenkandidatprocess was employed. Juncker is the first President that prior to the election has campaigned as a candidate for the position, a process introduced with the Treaty of Lisbon.

The EPP won 220 out of 751 seats in the Parliament (my bold - an election - :O). On 27 June 2014, the European Council officially nominated Juncker for the position, and on 15 July 2014, the European Parliament elected him with a majority of 422 votes from a total of 729 cast. He succeeded Jose Manuel Barroso as President on 1 November 2014.

Juncker stated that his priorities would be the creation of a digital single market, the development of an EU Energy Union, the negotiation of the Transatlantic Trade Agreement, the continued reform of the Economic and Monetary Union of the European Union—with the social dimension in mind—and a "targeted fiscal capacity" for the Eurozone, as well as to negotiate a new deal with Britain. During his leadership, Britain voted to leave the European Union in 2016."

"The President of the European Commission is the head of the European Commission, the executive branch of the European Union. The President of the Commission leads a cabinet of Commissioners, referred to as the college, collectively accountable to the European Parliament, which is directly elected by EU citizens."

"Jeremy Corbyn has said said that failing to reach a trade agreement with the EU would be “catastrophic” for British jobs. Speaking in Brussels in an interview with Sky News, he said:

The prime minister seems to have managed to upset just about everybody and have a warring cabinet around her.

It is up to her to get the negotiations back on track. We cannot countenance the idea that we just rush headlong into no deal with Europe. No deal withEurope would be very dangerous for employment and jobs in Britain.

The idea of no deal would mean that World Trade Organisation rules would be implemented straight away in March 2019.

It would be catastrophic for manufacturing industry jobs and we would have real problems all through the economy. I don’t want to see that. I want to see an agreement being reached.

We have to realise the seriousness of the situation and the chaos in which our government is operating at the present time. It is a chaos of their own making."

"Lloyd Blankfein, the head of Goldman Sachs, has tweeted about spending more time in Frankfurt, where the US investment bank is planning to move UK jobs, in a comment suggesting Brexit will be bad for the City. Jeremy Corbyn has said this highlights the uncertainty the government’s Brexit strategy has created. Commenting on the tweet, Corbyn said:

It’s not a good thing if companies of any sort - manufacturing, services or anybody else - are thinking of leaving. This really highlights the uncertainty surrounding the government’s conduct of these negotiations."

.. And finally Des.. Something you would do well to heed with your spurious comments on jackboots etc:

....

"Damian Green, the first secretary of state, has said the rising level of political abuse is fuelling an “atmosphere of increasing hatred” which threatens to poison democratic politics in Britain. In a speech to the press gallery he said:

If mainstream politicians and journalists start to behave like Twitter trolls and conspiracy theorists then democracy is in danger.

I do think we need to respect each other motives and treat each other’s views with courtesy. If we don’t we risk feeding an atmosphere of increasing hatred which at the most horrible extremes led to an event like the killing of Jo Cox ...

We have in the past few years witnessed a sad and completely ridiculous rise in routine comparisons to Hitler and the Nazis. It is symptomatic not just of a decline, but of a rapidly increasing viciousness in our discourse which is totally out of kilter with what I see day after day in the House of Commons.

Even when we are in the chamber or on the media giving it what-for, we need to remember that we are all democratic politicians.

What is pernicious is the attempt to portray your political opponents as somehow not quite human. It is the trick of extremists on both sides throughout the ages and we shouldn’t allow it to take hold in this country"

Apparently the EU/UK have just found agreement on NI, which is great news. No physical border infrastructure to be installed. Common travel area tween England and Ireland to be maintained. Very flexible from EU, surprisingly so. Brilliant news.

Generous_J wrote:The 'jackboot' developed your economy, lets see how you fare without. UK Gov already asking for favours: 2 year transition period etc. 'Can we keep this deal', 'can we maintain that agreement?'.

UK is going into recession/ depression.

Rather that, than become a political eunuch!

You do realise you're about to be completely disenfranchised when Juncker implements his master plan?

When individual governments are robbed of their power of veto, you'll do as you're fuckin' well telt! ... Or else!

Peace, Des.

Or... we can disagree at that point, as can all the other EU nations. As could the UK have done.

You have a bizarre fascination with Juncker. Truly bizarre. I suppose you need a figure to latch your wild theories to. He's hardly Senator Palpatine biding his time to reveal he is, in fact, Darth Sidious... The Emperor.

"Jean-Claude Juncker will not seek a second term as European Commission president, once his first mandate ends in 2019."

"In 2014, the European People's Party (EPP) had Juncker as its lead candidate, or Spitzenkandidat, for the Presidency of the Commission in the 2014 elections. This marked the first time that the Spitzenkandidatprocess was employed. Juncker is the first President that prior to the election has campaigned as a candidate for the position, a process introduced with the Treaty of Lisbon.

The EPP won 220 out of 751 seats in the Parliament (my bold - an election - :O). On 27 June 2014, the European Council officially nominated Juncker for the position, and on 15 July 2014, the European Parliament elected him with a majority of 422 votes from a total of 729 cast. He succeeded Jose Manuel Barroso as President on 1 November 2014.

Juncker stated that his priorities would be the creation of a digital single market, the development of an EU Energy Union, the negotiation of the Transatlantic Trade Agreement, the continued reform of the Economic and Monetary Union of the European Union—with the social dimension in mind—and a "targeted fiscal capacity" for the Eurozone, as well as to negotiate a new deal with Britain. During his leadership, Britain voted to leave the European Union in 2016."

"The President of the European Commission is the head of the European Commission, the executive branch of the European Union. The President of the Commission leads a cabinet of Commissioners, referred to as the college, collectively accountable to the European Parliament, which is directly elected by EU citizens."

Generous_J wrote:Apparently the EU/UK have just found agreement on NI, which is great news. No physical border infrastructure to be installed. Common travel area tween England and Ireland to be maintained. Very flexible from EU, surprisingly so. Brilliant news.

You think so? Not a lot of point in re-instating controls at UK seaports for immigration and customs purposes if the back door into the North is going to be wide open via the Republic, I would have thought a wall more sensible

Generous_J wrote:"Jeremy Corbyn has said said that failing to reach a trade agreement with the EU would be “catastrophic” for British jobs. Speaking in Brussels in an interview with Sky News, he said:

The prime minister seems to have managed to upset just about everybody and have a warring cabinet around her.

It is up to her to get the negotiations back on track. We cannot countenance the idea that we just rush headlong into no deal with Europe. No deal withEurope would be very dangerous for employment and jobs in Britain.

The idea of no deal would mean that World Trade Organisation rules would be implemented straight away in March 2019.

It would be catastrophic for manufacturing industry jobs and we would have real problems all through the economy. I don’t want to see that. I want to see an agreement being reached.

We have to realise the seriousness of the situation and the chaos in which our government is operating at the present time. It is a chaos of their own making."

"Lloyd Blankfein, the head of Goldman Sachs, has tweeted about spending more time in Frankfurt, where the US investment bank is planning to move UK jobs, in a comment suggesting Brexit will be bad for the City. Jeremy Corbyn has said this highlights the uncertainty the government’s Brexit strategy has created. Commenting on the tweet, Corbyn said:

It’s not a good thing if companies of any sort - manufacturing, services or anybody else - are thinking of leaving. This really highlights the uncertainty surrounding the government’s conduct of these negotiations."

Ah, two-faced cunt Corbyn! ... A Brexiteer at heart, sitting on the fence because it suits his purpose to do so, hoping the Tories make a total fuck up of it and he can come riding to the rescue! LOL!

Generous_J wrote:.. And finally Des.. Something you would do well to heed with your spurious comments on jackboots etc:

....

"Damian Green, the first secretary of state, has said the rising level of political abuse is fuelling an “atmosphere of increasing hatred” which threatens to poison democratic politics in Britain. In a speech to the press gallery he said:

If mainstream politicians and journalists start to behave like Twitter trolls and conspiracy theorists then democracy is in danger.

I do think we need to respect each other motives and treat each other’s views with courtesy. If we don’t we risk feeding an atmosphere of increasing hatred which at the most horrible extremes led to an event like the killing of Jo Cox ...

We have in the past few years witnessed a sad and completely ridiculous rise in routine comparisons to Hitler and the Nazis. It is symptomatic not just of a decline, but of a rapidly increasing viciousness in our discourse which is totally out of kilter with what I see day after day in the House of Commons.

Even when we are in the chamber or on the media giving it what-for, we need to remember that we are all democratic politicians.

What is pernicious is the attempt to portray your political opponents as somehow not quite human. It is the trick of extremists on both sides throughout the ages and we shouldn’t allow it to take hold in this country"

The political abuse is well deserved! ... Try and ride roughshod over democracy at your peril!

Generous_J wrote:.. And finally Des.. Something you would do well to heed with your spurious comments on jackboots etc:

....

"Damian Green, the first secretary of state, has said the rising level of political abuse is fuelling an “atmosphere of increasing hatred” which threatens to poison democratic politics in Britain. In a speech to the press gallery he said:

If mainstream politicians and journalists start to behave like Twitter trolls and conspiracy theorists then democracy is in danger.

I do think we need to respect each other motives and treat each other’s views with courtesy. If we don’t we risk feeding an atmosphere of increasing hatred which at the most horrible extremes led to an event like the killing of Jo Cox ...

We have in the past few years witnessed a sad and completely ridiculous rise in routine comparisons to Hitler and the Nazis. It is symptomatic not just of a decline, but of a rapidly increasing viciousness in our discourse which is totally out of kilter with what I see day after day in the House of Commons.

Even when we are in the chamber or on the media giving it what-for, we need to remember that we are all democratic politicians.

What is pernicious is the attempt to portray your political opponents as somehow not quite human. It is the trick of extremists on both sides throughout the ages and we shouldn’t allow it to take hold in this country"

The political abuse is well deserved! ... Try and ride roughshod over democracy at your peril!

Generous_J wrote:Apparently the EU/UK have just found agreement on NI, which is great news. No physical border infrastructure to be installed. Common travel area tween England and Ireland to be maintained. Very flexible from EU, surprisingly so. Brilliant news.

You think so? Not a lot of point in re-instating controls at UK seaports for immigration and customs purposes if the back door into the North is going to be wide open via the Republic, I would have thought a wall more sensible

Generous_J wrote:.. And finally Des.. Something you would do well to heed with your spurious comments on jackboots etc:

....

"Damian Green, the first secretary of state, has said the rising level of political abuse is fuelling an “atmosphere of increasing hatred” which threatens to poison democratic politics in Britain. In a speech to the press gallery he said:

If mainstream politicians and journalists start to behave like Twitter trolls and conspiracy theorists then democracy is in danger.

I do think we need to respect each other motives and treat each other’s views with courtesy. If we don’t we risk feeding an atmosphere of increasing hatred which at the most horrible extremes led to an event like the killing of Jo Cox ...

We have in the past few years witnessed a sad and completely ridiculous rise in routine comparisons to Hitler and the Nazis. It is symptomatic not just of a decline, but of a rapidly increasing viciousness in our discourse which is totally out of kilter with what I see day after day in the House of Commons.

Even when we are in the chamber or on the media giving it what-for, we need to remember that we are all democratic politicians.

What is pernicious is the attempt to portray your political opponents as somehow not quite human. It is the trick of extremists on both sides throughout the ages and we shouldn’t allow it to take hold in this country"

The political abuse is well deserved! ... Try and ride roughshod over democracy at your peril!

Generous_J wrote:Apparently the EU/UK have just found agreement on NI, which is great news. No physical border infrastructure to be installed. Common travel area tween England and Ireland to be maintained. Very flexible from EU, surprisingly so. Brilliant news.

You think so? Not a lot of point in re-instating controls at UK seaports for immigration and customs purposes if the back door into the North is going to be wide open via the Republic, I would have thought a wall more sensible

Except there is the Irish sea between Ireland and Britain, dipshit.

Sadly there is fuck all between the Republic and Northern Ireland and I bet the Fenian twats in Dublin won't agree to a minefield

Generous_J wrote:.. And finally Des.. Something you would do well to heed with your spurious comments on jackboots etc:

....

"Damian Green, the first secretary of state, has said the rising level of political abuse is fuelling an “atmosphere of increasing hatred” which threatens to poison democratic politics in Britain. In a speech to the press gallery he said:

If mainstream politicians and journalists start to behave like Twitter trolls and conspiracy theorists then democracy is in danger.

I do think we need to respect each other motives and treat each other’s views with courtesy. If we don’t we risk feeding an atmosphere of increasing hatred which at the most horrible extremes led to an event like the killing of Jo Cox ...

We have in the past few years witnessed a sad and completely ridiculous rise in routine comparisons to Hitler and the Nazis. It is symptomatic not just of a decline, but of a rapidly increasing viciousness in our discourse which is totally out of kilter with what I see day after day in the House of Commons.

Even when we are in the chamber or on the media giving it what-for, we need to remember that we are all democratic politicians.

What is pernicious is the attempt to portray your political opponents as somehow not quite human. It is the trick of extremists on both sides throughout the ages and we shouldn’t allow it to take hold in this country"

The political abuse is well deserved! ... Try and ride roughshod over democracy at your peril!