“This is our house now”

Remember the organization that refused to pay its own workers a “living wage” even while it agitated for higher minimums for other businesses? The same organization that has been the subject of several voting fraud investigations? And the same one to receive $2 Billion from the stimulus bill? Well, its now in the process of “peacefully” occupying homes that are in the process of foreclosure. That organization, of course, is ACORN:

A community organization breaks into a foreclosed home in what they are calling an act of civil disobedience.

The group wants to train homeowners facing eviction on peaceful ways they can remain in their homes.

[…]

“The mortgage went up $300 in one month,” said Hanks, former homeowner.

ACORN fights foreclosures by breaking the law

She says the bank refused to modify her loan and foreclosed, kicking her out of the house in September.

The community group ACORN calls Hanks a victim of predatory lending.

“This is our house now,” said Louis Beverly, ACORN.

And on Thursday afternoon, they literally broke the foreclosure padlock right off the front door and then broke into the house, letting Hanks back in for the first time in months.

“We are actually trespassing, and so this is a way of civil disobedience to try to stay into our house,” said Beverly. “Legally it’s wrong, but homesteading is the only means that she has left to stay into her house. And we feel as though this is the right thing to do at this particular time to save this family.”

So even though they know it’s “legally wrong” ACORN is going to go ahead and do it anyway? Maybe they could take some of the $2 Billion they received and help Ms. Hanks pay her mortgage or even renegotiate it. Presumably ACORN received the stimulus money to do something other than commit criminal acts. Didn’t it?

30 Responses to “This is our house now”

So, does this mean that after some portion of my taxes for the next 1000 years goes to fund the new homeowner bailout bill and the interest on the debt used to fund it that I can do the same thing? There are a number of houses I wouldn’t mind breaking into so I can live there without paying for it. You know, just so I can “save my family.”

If ACORN is so interested in saving people’s homes then they should take that $2B largesse and use it to buy the houses back from the foreclosing lenders. Then they can donate the property to whomever they see fit.

Once again, we see that the law doesn’t matter to a lib if it’s broken in a “good cause” (which, happily for them, they get to define).

Don’t hold your breath waiting for prosecutions or RICO cases. ACORN is funded by our own government. AG Holder is too busy scolding the rest of us for being “cowards” about race to worry about prosecuting law breakers (assuming that he’s not acting as a bagman for them, that is).

I’m sure this will fall under the New Office of Urban Affairs that O created today. After all, the department is ordered to work with “non profit” organizations (amongst others) to help define our new Urban policy.

Maybe they could take some of the $2 Billion they received and help Ms. Hanks pay her mortgage or even renegotiate it.

First off, ACORN hasn’t “received” anything. Bachmann claims ACORN is getting 5 billion, not two. And she’s wrong on that. In fact, she’s wrong on a lot of things. ACORN may be eligible for moneys near 5 billion, but so are many others, and ACORN claims they won’t take it.
Maybe they will, maybe they won’t.

I’d be more careful when you source the aptly named “Say Anything” blog. Because, you know, he often does … say anything.

And you know that because … oh, yeah FactCheck says so … sorta. They also seem to think that the claim that ACORN has committed “massive voter fraud” (which, while in quotes, is not cited to any source, and was probably “mass voter fraud”) is “exaggerated despite the fact that several ACORN employees have been convicted of voter fraud. Whatever.

I’d be more careful when you source the aptly named “Say Anything” blog. Because, you know, he often does … say anything.

As careful as you were about calling Rob Port a liar like you just did? I’ll pass. BTW, you have any evidence to back up your claim there?

Well, technically, nobody has really “received anything” from the stimulus bill, because it was just passed. Not sure what that has to do with the point of the post.

Yeah, what did that have to do with anything in your post? Since ACORN hasn’t received anything, then why did you claim that they did? Shoddy, to say the least.

And you know that because … oh, yeah FactCheck says so … sorta.

No, not because FactCheck says so, because it’s not there. Where in the bill did ACORN receive any funds??? Huh?? Where??? You won’t answer that because you know they didn’t. Why? Because checking facts will reveal that you are wrong. As usual. Too bad you don’t have any facts to back up your bullsh!t claims. It’d go a lot easier for you if you had the facts you claim are there.
Do I see a sign on the front of this post reading “Fact checking”? No! Because, obviously, checking facts just ain’t your f*cking business. That’s left to others, one assumes.

As careful as you were about calling Rob Port a liar like you just did?

No. More careful. Because, if you had listened to the interview, you would know that either Rob was an ignorant douchebag, or he did not listen to the actual interview he claimed he did. Bachmann clearly stated, wrongly I might add, that ACORN was to receive five billion, not two like he says… which is wrong anyway.

Yeah, what did that have to do with anything in your post? Since ACORN hasn’t received anything, then why did you claim that they did? Shoddy, to say the least.

Actually, after thinking about it, I think you’re right on this. I was too hasty in including the $2B claim, and should have been more skeptical about the assertion it was going directly to ACORN. I tried to get the post up quickly and include some recent facts about ACORN without checking them out a bit further, which was my fault. So, even though plenty of that money will be going to ACORN via other entities (which ACORN admits on its own website) to do exactly the sorts of things about which I wrote, I was wrong to speak about the $2B the way I did.

Because checking facts will reveal that you are wrong. As usual.

Ummm … OK? You might want fact check yourself on that assertion. And please don’t pretend like you actually know what’s in the bill and what isn’t.

No. More careful. [ed. “More careful”? Hypocrisy at its finest] Because, if you had listened to the interview, you would know that either Rob was an ignorant douchebag, or he did not listen to the actual interview he claimed he did. Bachmann clearly stated, wrongly I might add, that ACORN was to receive five billion, not two like he says… which is wrong anyway.

Except that Rob didn’t claim that Bachman said any such thing, and included a link to different congressman stating the $2B number that Rob included in the title to his post. Nice try though.

Except that Rob didn’t claim that Bachman said any such thing, and included a link to different congressman stating the $2B number that Rob included in the title to his post. Nice try though.

Are you high?Hedid claim that,I just heard Rep. Michelle Bachman (R- MN) on the Scott Hennen show refer to ACORN getting $2 billion (yes, that’s billion) in new funding from the “economic stimulus” bill Obama and Democrats ram-rodded through Congress with as little debate and scrutiny as possible.
He said, “I just heard Rep. Michelle Bachman (R-MN) (sic) on the Scott Hennen show refer to ACORN getting $2 billion…”

So you are high.
Rob “says anything” indeed.
LOLz He can’t even get the spelling right. What a winner you’ve chosen.

Christ on a crutch you’re bad at this.
I mean for f*ck’s sake, I knew this last night. … You? … Well.. you must have heard this on some rabid right wind radio and presumed it was the truth. Too bad it wasn’t the Scott Hennen show, then maybe you wouldn’t be in this position.

Yes, you pull things out of your ass when there is already a pile of sh!t in front of you.
There was no need to add the crap you did to this already crap sandwich, but you coudn’t resist. I write as I talk, you write as you sh!t.

Pogue – you’re not committing yourself, good, because I think it’s a fair bet you’d have to eat your words if went as far as your links did andtry and imply that ACORN isn’t going to get money from this just because they aren’t specifically mentioned in the bill. Dambetcha, just a question of time before we get the report they do. Now, as to the amount…well….IMHO ANY money for them is too much.

Well, I rarely commit myself. Especially when it comes to politicians or those who live off of politicians, although I’m quite sure the fairness doctrine won’t happen because its not in the politician’s best interest. And I’m certainly no fan of ACORN.
Michael’s post regarding the illegal actions of ACORN are valid, it’s just too bad he has to use margarine to soggy up an already buttered piece of toast.
That’s what I don’t get about die-hards. Why does one need to pull sh!t out of your ass when there is already a big stinking pile right in front of you.

Michael’s post regarding the illegal actions of ACORN are valid, it’s just too bad he has to use margarine to soggy up an already buttered piece of toast.
That’s what I don’t get about die-hards. Why does one need to pull sh!t out of your ass when there is already a big stinking pile right in front of you.

What in the Sam Hill are you talking about? Soggied up toast? Pulling sh!t out of my ass? ACORN is occupying private property and calling it “civil disobedience” as if they were sitting in the front of an Alabama bus. What exactly is the problem that you have with my post?

And what exactly do you mean by calling me a “die-hard”? A die-hard what?

What in the Sam Hill are you talking about? Soggied up toast? Pulling sh!t out of my ass? ACORN is occupying private property and calling it “civil disobedience” as if they were sitting in the front of an Alabama bus. What exactly is the problem that you have with my post?

The problem I have, is that you claim that ACORN has 2 billion dollars from the stimulus to dole out to this unfortunate, which they didn’t. And claim they won’t. See, if you just wouldn’t have included that, and other, bullsh!t information, then there would be little to quibble about your post. But since you just can’t help but pull a bunch of easily discredited bullsh!t right out of your ass, then its kinda’ like shooting dead fish in a barrel.
And “die-hard”, well… you’re a die-hard bullsh!t artist.

You just can’t help it. You hate your opposition so much, all rational and reasonable thought just goes right out the window.

But by all means, keep it up. I’m going to get laughs out of this for days, if not months.

Sorry to delay, Pogue. I have real job that requires a commute, kids who require some attention when I get home, and a wife who also requires some attention before I get back to internet battles. Glad to know you’re so concerned about truth, though. I’ll keep that in mind when next you comment.

I’m not worried about ACORN or the homeowner re-entering a house in my state. We know exactly when it becomes vacant and the company who secured it. Next inspection we just report that squatters are in the house. They are then removed. The money provided by the stimulus couldn’t bail out my state, never mind the country. It’s a costly and sad joke.

What isn’t mentioned (at least in the excerpt) is Hanks originally sold a house then purchased the property for 87k-cash (i’m assuming they means it was paid for and there was no mortgage) in 2001 and refinanced the house several times after that to pay for renovations and medical expenses because she was not insured. Her final refinance in 2005 totalled 250k. At the time of the final refinance, her payments were 1600 and after the ARM adjusted in 2008 it went up to over 1900. Her monthly income…drum roll…2100. According to Louis Beverly, ACORN’s co-chair for predatory loans, the appraisal was inflated. “In hindsight, she concedes, the loan was too much. But at the time, she figured the lender knew the numbers.”

Since being evicted in Sept 2008, she’s lived in 4 different rentals. Her reason for moving out of those rentals is she couldn’t afford the rent and/or the landlords were not fixing plumbing and other issues. Now that she is back in the house she does not own she says it needs plumbing, roof, wall problems and other work to bring it up to city code. Why is the banks house that she is in illegally not up to code? I can only think of 3 things: 1. She vandalized it before being kicked out. 2. It was vandalized while it sat vacant. 3. During the renovations she never bothered to fix those problems.

Yes this is just the type of moron i want bailed out with tax payer dollars.

You’ll thank me.
The more I fact check for you, the more credible this blog becomes.

Because obviously, Bruce McQain, Dale Franks, Jon Henke, and whoever else won’t do the fact checking for you. And as they often rail against other news organizations for missing the facts, obviously, they have no interest in doing their own fact checking for their fellow bloggers.

We all know that when we borrow someone’s money to start a business or buy a house or car, the lender agrees to lend the money at a low rate provided the borrower puts the title up as collateral. If the borrower fails to make his payments, the lender assumes ownership of the property. The details of these loans vary from state to state, but in Florida where these problems are happening, it takes a long time (6 months) to foreclose and evict. Banks do not like having to foreclose. They are in the lending business, not the real estate business.

If someone came to Ms Hanks house while she was paying the mortgage and broke in, how would she have reacted? To a normal citizen, breaking and entering is not civil disobedience; it is a felony. Words such as “trespassing” and “homesteading” have no place in this discussion. Hanks is not the victim. She and ACORN are the offenders. The victims, if there are any, are the depositors and stockholders in the lending institution and perhaps also the taxpayers.

If we examine the “predatory lending” ACORN is criticizing, are not those practices that ACORN and Barack Obama forced on CitiBank during his community organizing days? Aren’t they the same practices that the Clinton Administration enforced under threat of civil right action? These are the practices demanded as a condition of lending by Fannie and Freddie, covered by Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and Chuck Schumer.

We are all responsible for our actions. Ms. Hanks signed a contract which apparently included an adjustable interest rate. When the rate went up, she could not pay. The lender is under no obligation to renegotiate their terms allowing Hanks to continue occupying their house.