Mother of Brunel University student Ricky Reel who vanished from Kingston in 1997 claims police spied on her

The mother of Ricky Reel, who has been campaigning for an inquest into her 20-year-old son's death in Kingston in 1997, was spied on by undercover Metropolitan Police officers, it has been claimed.

Sukhdev Reel told the BBC she was informed by an officer from Operation Herne - which is investigating undercover policing - that intelligence was gathered on her on at least five occasions, between 1998 and 1999.

She told the broadcaster she "felt sick" when she heard the news.

Ricky Reel disappeared during a night out in Kingston on October 15, 1997, shortly after he and his friends were racially abused by a group of white men.

His body was found in the River Thames a week later.

His family and supporters claim he was killed, but Kingston police has always insisted there is no evidence to support the theory.

Comments

alroutemaster
12:50pm Thu 24 Jul 14

AND? What is the problem here?

AND? What is the problem here?alroutemaster

AND? What is the problem here?

Score: -12

bettysenior
1:38pm Thu 24 Jul 14

It appears to me that as the police service has consolidated into ever larger organizations ,they have, like the continual consolidation of global corporate giants into more powerful entities, become increasingly more corrupt. In this we all know that power ultimately corrupts. This appears to be the same with the UK's police now and where things like this never appeared before when police forces were small but more numerous in numbers. The local bobby did his bit on his local patch and Scotland Yard were only brought in for the most serious of crimes. Now the tentacle of the law, from the powerful above, stretches into all manner of things including crimes perpetrated by themselves. This corrupting influence is a product of successive governments creating ever-larger police forces through amalgamation and where it appears that government have lost the plot and control over a police services that was once revered throughout the world. But not anymore unfortunately. Although the Lawrence case and the Hillsborough case were a while ago I believe that this corrosive mechanism of consolidation was in part the reason why these cases have produced so many sickening police skeletons in the closet. My advice is to reverse this consolidation process and get back to basic policing within areas throughout the UK without interference from ever-more powerful institutions (exactly what consolidated police service has become).

My advice is to reverse this consolidation process and get back to basic policing within areas throughout the UK without interference from ever-more powerful institutions (exactly what consolidated police service has become).

Dr David Hill
CEO
World Innovation Foundation

It appears to me that as the police service has consolidated into ever larger organizations ,they have, like the continual consolidation of global corporate giants into more powerful entities, become increasingly more corrupt. In this we all know that power ultimately corrupts. This appears to be the same with the UK's police now and where things like this never appeared before when police forces were small but more numerous in numbers. The local bobby did his bit on his local patch and Scotland Yard were only brought in for the most serious of crimes. Now the tentacle of the law, from the powerful above, stretches into all manner of things including crimes perpetrated by themselves. This corrupting influence is a product of successive governments creating ever-larger police forces through amalgamation and where it appears that government have lost the plot and control over a police services that was once revered throughout the world. But not anymore unfortunately. Although the Lawrence case and the Hillsborough case were a while ago I believe that this corrosive mechanism of consolidation was in part the reason why these cases have produced so many sickening police skeletons in the closet. My advice is to reverse this consolidation process and get back to basic policing within areas throughout the UK without interference from ever-more powerful institutions (exactly what consolidated police service has become).
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My advice is to reverse this consolidation process and get back to basic policing within areas throughout the UK without interference from ever-more powerful institutions (exactly what consolidated police service has become).
Dr David Hill
CEO
World Innovation Foundationbettysenior

It appears to me that as the police service has consolidated into ever larger organizations ,they have, like the continual consolidation of global corporate giants into more powerful entities, become increasingly more corrupt. In this we all know that power ultimately corrupts. This appears to be the same with the UK's police now and where things like this never appeared before when police forces were small but more numerous in numbers. The local bobby did his bit on his local patch and Scotland Yard were only brought in for the most serious of crimes. Now the tentacle of the law, from the powerful above, stretches into all manner of things including crimes perpetrated by themselves. This corrupting influence is a product of successive governments creating ever-larger police forces through amalgamation and where it appears that government have lost the plot and control over a police services that was once revered throughout the world. But not anymore unfortunately. Although the Lawrence case and the Hillsborough case were a while ago I believe that this corrosive mechanism of consolidation was in part the reason why these cases have produced so many sickening police skeletons in the closet. My advice is to reverse this consolidation process and get back to basic policing within areas throughout the UK without interference from ever-more powerful institutions (exactly what consolidated police service has become).

My advice is to reverse this consolidation process and get back to basic policing within areas throughout the UK without interference from ever-more powerful institutions (exactly what consolidated police service has become).

Dr David Hill
CEO
World Innovation Foundation

Score: 2

Happy59
1:04pm Thu 24 Jul 14

The problem is why are the police wasting valuable resources and our money spying on a grieving law abiding family as opposed to finding the people who may or may not have been involved in Ricky's tragic death. THAT'S the problem.

The problem is why are the police wasting valuable resources and our money spying on a grieving law abiding family as opposed to finding the people who may or may not have been involved in Ricky's tragic death. THAT'S the problem.Happy59

The problem is why are the police wasting valuable resources and our money spying on a grieving law abiding family as opposed to finding the people who may or may not have been involved in Ricky's tragic death. THAT'S the problem.

Score: 16

alroutemaster
4:40pm Thu 24 Jul 14

WHATEVER, this could turn into another St. Ephen Lawrence. Someone looking to get into the House of Lords?

WHATEVER, this could turn into another St. Ephen Lawrence. Someone looking to get into the House of Lords?alroutemaster

WHATEVER, this could turn into another St. Ephen Lawrence. Someone looking to get into the House of Lords?

Score: -10

alroutemaster
3:07pm Thu 24 Jul 14

There is NO problem here at all. Every time a non white person disappears or,unfortunately, gets murdered, the black/minority community demand an enquiry after an enquiry after an investigation. Get over it, move on, most of us have to, why should these minority interests get special treatment.

There is NO problem here at all. Every time a non white person disappears or,unfortunately, gets murdered, the black/minority community demand an enquiry after an enquiry after an investigation. Get over it, move on, most of us have to, why should these minority interests get special treatment.alroutemaster

There is NO problem here at all. Every time a non white person disappears or,unfortunately, gets murdered, the black/minority community demand an enquiry after an enquiry after an investigation. Get over it, move on, most of us have to, why should these minority interests get special treatment.

Score: -10

Happy59
4:03pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Personally I don't think you ever get over the untimely death of a child. Surely there should be an indepth investigation in to any unexplained/violent death. My point is why were the police using valuable resources investigating and spying on innocent members of the community instead of finding the criminals who commit the crimes. Easier I guess, they know where the bereaved families are!

Personally I don't think you ever get over the untimely death of a child. Surely there should be an indepth investigation in to any unexplained/violent death. My point is why were the police using valuable resources investigating and spying on innocent members of the community instead of finding the criminals who commit the crimes. Easier I guess, they know where the bereaved families are!Happy59

Personally I don't think you ever get over the untimely death of a child. Surely there should be an indepth investigation in to any unexplained/violent death. My point is why were the police using valuable resources investigating and spying on innocent members of the community instead of finding the criminals who commit the crimes. Easier I guess, they know where the bereaved families are!

Score: 16

Tony from Surbiton
4:26pm Thu 24 Jul 14

I can understand the family being upset, but the police are just doing their job. I can understand that if your cild has died in unexplained circumstances, you would want answers as soon as possible. You certainly wouldn't want the police wasting their time spying on the family, when they could be doing more productive things.

However, (and without making any suggestions relating to this particular death) often attacks, rapes, murders are carried out by the family or close family friend - so the police do need to think this is a possibility in every crime/death scene they attend. It's a horrible thought, and it must be horrible to think that others believe that you could be involved in such things (I've no knowledge if that's what was happening here) - but that is the unfortunate world the police need to work in. Let them get on with their work.

I can understand the family being upset, but the police are just doing their job. I can understand that if your cild has died in unexplained circumstances, you would want answers as soon as possible. You certainly wouldn't want the police wasting their time spying on the family, when they could be doing more productive things.
However, (and without making any suggestions relating to this particular death) often attacks, rapes, murders are carried out by the family or close family friend - so the police do need to think this is a possibility in every crime/death scene they attend. It's a horrible thought, and it must be horrible to think that others believe that you could be involved in such things (I've no knowledge if that's what was happening here) - but that is the unfortunate world the police need to work in. Let them get on with their work.Tony from Surbiton

I can understand the family being upset, but the police are just doing their job. I can understand that if your cild has died in unexplained circumstances, you would want answers as soon as possible. You certainly wouldn't want the police wasting their time spying on the family, when they could be doing more productive things.

However, (and without making any suggestions relating to this particular death) often attacks, rapes, murders are carried out by the family or close family friend - so the police do need to think this is a possibility in every crime/death scene they attend. It's a horrible thought, and it must be horrible to think that others believe that you could be involved in such things (I've no knowledge if that's what was happening here) - but that is the unfortunate world the police need to work in. Let them get on with their work.

Score: -7

Tony from Surbiton
6:45pm Thu 24 Jul 14

And by the way, clicking 'thumbs down' on other comments seven times doesn't necessarily make you correct, just means that you have nothing better to do with your life than fiddle the figures on a local website.

And by the way, clicking 'thumbs down' on other comments seven times doesn't necessarily make you correct, just means that you have nothing better to do with your life than fiddle the figures on a local website.Tony from Surbiton

And by the way, clicking 'thumbs down' on other comments seven times doesn't necessarily make you correct, just means that you have nothing better to do with your life than fiddle the figures on a local website.

Score: -7

edstar
2:42pm Fri 25 Jul 14

alroutemaster wrote…

WHATEVER, this could turn into another St. Ephen Lawrence. Someone looking to get into the House of Lords?

You really are a disgusting cretin. I think these people are looking for justice for their murdered relatives.

Now take that chip off your shoulder and try to do something worthwhile with your pointless life.

[quote][p][bold]alroutemaster[/bold] wrote:
WHATEVER, this could turn into another St. Ephen Lawrence. Someone looking to get into the House of Lords?[/p][/quote]You really are a disgusting cretin. I think these people are looking for justice for their murdered relatives.
Now take that chip off your shoulder and try to do something worthwhile with your pointless life.edstar

alroutemaster wrote…

WHATEVER, this could turn into another St. Ephen Lawrence. Someone looking to get into the House of Lords?

You really are a disgusting cretin. I think these people are looking for justice for their murdered relatives.

Now take that chip off your shoulder and try to do something worthwhile with your pointless life.

Score: 2

alroutemaster
4:55pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Edstar: There is, and never was, any evidence that the bloke in the river was murdered. Just because someone called him a name does not mean they murdered him. Lots of people have got pi**ed and fallen in the river. The point I am making is that due to his racial origin there is always going to be this stage-managed campaign alleging racism. If he had been a white kid nobody would have questioned the outcome.

Edstar: There is, and never was, any evidence that the bloke in the river was murdered. Just because someone called him a name does not mean they murdered him. Lots of people have got pi**ed and fallen in the river. The point I am making is that due to his racial origin there is always going to be this stage-managed campaign alleging racism. If he had been a white kid nobody would have questioned the outcome.alroutemaster

Edstar: There is, and never was, any evidence that the bloke in the river was murdered. Just because someone called him a name does not mean they murdered him. Lots of people have got pi**ed and fallen in the river. The point I am making is that due to his racial origin there is always going to be this stage-managed campaign alleging racism. If he had been a white kid nobody would have questioned the outcome.

Score: -3

edstar
10:43am Wed 30 Jul 14

alroutemaster wrote…

Edstar: There is, and never was, any evidence that the bloke in the river was murdered. Just because someone called him a name does not mean they murdered him. Lots of people have got pi**ed and fallen in the river. The point I am making is that due to his racial origin there is always going to be this stage-managed campaign alleging racism. If he had been a white kid nobody would have questioned the outcome.

You missed the main point which is why were the police investigating the family.

[quote][p][bold]alroutemaster[/bold] wrote:
Edstar: There is, and never was, any evidence that the bloke in the river was murdered. Just because someone called him a name does not mean they murdered him. Lots of people have got pi**ed and fallen in the river. The point I am making is that due to his racial origin there is always going to be this stage-managed campaign alleging racism. If he had been a white kid nobody would have questioned the outcome.[/p][/quote]You missed the main point which is why were the police investigating the family.edstar

alroutemaster wrote…

Edstar: There is, and never was, any evidence that the bloke in the river was murdered. Just because someone called him a name does not mean they murdered him. Lots of people have got pi**ed and fallen in the river. The point I am making is that due to his racial origin there is always going to be this stage-managed campaign alleging racism. If he had been a white kid nobody would have questioned the outcome.

You missed the main point which is why were the police investigating the family.

Score: 0

edstar
5:34pm Wed 30 Jul 14

alroutemaster wrote…

edstar wrote…

alroutemaster wrote…

Edstar: There is, and never was, any evidence that the bloke in the river was murdered. Just because someone called him a name does not mean they murdered him. Lots of people have got pi**ed and fallen in the river. The point I am making is that due to his racial origin there is always going to be this stage-managed campaign alleging racism. If he had been a white kid nobody would have questioned the outcome.

You missed the main point which is why were the police investigating the family.

They always check out these type of people as they may be political agitators or (as in the Stephen Lawrence case) worse.......

What??? so Stephen Lawrences family are "worse" than political agitators because they wanted justice after the police mishandled his murder case as he was black? You really have some chip on your shoulder.

As you use to work for the police, let me ask you this, would these families have been investigated if they were white?

[quote][p][bold]alroutemaster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]edstar[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]alroutemaster[/bold] wrote:
Edstar: There is, and never was, any evidence that the bloke in the river was murdered. Just because someone called him a name does not mean they murdered him. Lots of people have got pi**ed and fallen in the river. The point I am making is that due to his racial origin there is always going to be this stage-managed campaign alleging racism. If he had been a white kid nobody would have questioned the outcome.[/p][/quote]You missed the main point which is why were the police investigating the family.[/p][/quote]They always check out these type of people as they may be political agitators or (as in the Stephen Lawrence case) worse.......[/p][/quote]What??? so Stephen Lawrences family are "worse" than political agitators because they wanted justice after the police mishandled his murder case as he was black? You really have some chip on your shoulder.
As you use to work for the police, let me ask you this, would these families have been investigated if they were white?edstar

alroutemaster wrote…

edstar wrote…

alroutemaster wrote…

Edstar: There is, and never was, any evidence that the bloke in the river was murdered. Just because someone called him a name does not mean they murdered him. Lots of people have got pi**ed and fallen in the river. The point I am making is that due to his racial origin there is always going to be this stage-managed campaign alleging racism. If he had been a white kid nobody would have questioned the outcome.

You missed the main point which is why were the police investigating the family.

They always check out these type of people as they may be political agitators or (as in the Stephen Lawrence case) worse.......

What??? so Stephen Lawrences family are "worse" than political agitators because they wanted justice after the police mishandled his murder case as he was black? You really have some chip on your shoulder.

As you use to work for the police, let me ask you this, would these families have been investigated if they were white?

Score: 0

alroutemaster
4:31pm Wed 30 Jul 14

edstar wrote…

alroutemaster wrote…

Edstar: There is, and never was, any evidence that the bloke in the river was murdered. Just because someone called him a name does not mean they murdered him. Lots of people have got pi**ed and fallen in the river. The point I am making is that due to his racial origin there is always going to be this stage-managed campaign alleging racism. If he had been a white kid nobody would have questioned the outcome.

You missed the main point which is why were the police investigating the family.

They always check out these type of people as they may be political agitators or (as in the Stephen Lawrence case) worse.......

[quote][p][bold]edstar[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]alroutemaster[/bold] wrote:
Edstar: There is, and never was, any evidence that the bloke in the river was murdered. Just because someone called him a name does not mean they murdered him. Lots of people have got pi**ed and fallen in the river. The point I am making is that due to his racial origin there is always going to be this stage-managed campaign alleging racism. If he had been a white kid nobody would have questioned the outcome.[/p][/quote]You missed the main point which is why were the police investigating the family.[/p][/quote]They always check out these type of people as they may be political agitators or (as in the Stephen Lawrence case) worse.......alroutemaster

edstar wrote…

alroutemaster wrote…

Edstar: There is, and never was, any evidence that the bloke in the river was murdered. Just because someone called him a name does not mean they murdered him. Lots of people have got pi**ed and fallen in the river. The point I am making is that due to his racial origin there is always going to be this stage-managed campaign alleging racism. If he had been a white kid nobody would have questioned the outcome.

You missed the main point which is why were the police investigating the family.

They always check out these type of people as they may be political agitators or (as in the Stephen Lawrence case) worse.......

Score: 0

alroutemaster
7:43pm Wed 30 Jul 14

edstar wrote…

alroutemaster wrote…

edstar wrote…

alroutemaster wrote…

Edstar: There is, and never was, any evidence that the bloke in the river was murdered. Just because someone called him a name does not mean they murdered him. Lots of people have got pi**ed and fallen in the river. The point I am making is that due to his racial origin there is always going to be this stage-managed campaign alleging racism. If he had been a white kid nobody would have questioned the outcome.

You missed the main point which is why were the police investigating the family.

They always check out these type of people as they may be political agitators or (as in the Stephen Lawrence case) worse.......

What??? so Stephen Lawrences family are "worse" than political agitators because they wanted justice after the police mishandled his murder case as he was black? You really have some chip on your shoulder.

As you use to work for the police, let me ask you this, would these families have been investigated if they were white?

Edstar: The short answer to your question is that the police do check any family in an investigation, whatever their background. I am however very impressed that it took you so long to introduce the race card into the argument. However it has to be said that as certain races shout the loudest, it is always them who get the media attention. I personally know a number of people who have been investigated by police for their activities (actually concerning animal rights) and they are all white......

[quote][p][bold]edstar[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]alroutemaster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]edstar[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]alroutemaster[/bold] wrote:
Edstar: There is, and never was, any evidence that the bloke in the river was murdered. Just because someone called him a name does not mean they murdered him. Lots of people have got pi**ed and fallen in the river. The point I am making is that due to his racial origin there is always going to be this stage-managed campaign alleging racism. If he had been a white kid nobody would have questioned the outcome.[/p][/quote]You missed the main point which is why were the police investigating the family.[/p][/quote]They always check out these type of people as they may be political agitators or (as in the Stephen Lawrence case) worse.......[/p][/quote]What??? so Stephen Lawrences family are "worse" than political agitators because they wanted justice after the police mishandled his murder case as he was black? You really have some chip on your shoulder.
As you use to work for the police, let me ask you this, would these families have been investigated if they were white?[/p][/quote]Edstar: The short answer to your question is that the police do check any family in an investigation, whatever their background. I am however very impressed that it took you so long to introduce the race card into the argument. However it has to be said that as certain races shout the loudest, it is always them who get the media attention. I personally know a number of people who have been investigated by police for their activities (actually concerning animal rights) and they are all white......alroutemaster

edstar wrote…

alroutemaster wrote…

edstar wrote…

alroutemaster wrote…

Edstar: There is, and never was, any evidence that the bloke in the river was murdered. Just because someone called him a name does not mean they murdered him. Lots of people have got pi**ed and fallen in the river. The point I am making is that due to his racial origin there is always going to be this stage-managed campaign alleging racism. If he had been a white kid nobody would have questioned the outcome.

You missed the main point which is why were the police investigating the family.

They always check out these type of people as they may be political agitators or (as in the Stephen Lawrence case) worse.......

What??? so Stephen Lawrences family are "worse" than political agitators because they wanted justice after the police mishandled his murder case as he was black? You really have some chip on your shoulder.

As you use to work for the police, let me ask you this, would these families have been investigated if they were white?

Edstar: The short answer to your question is that the police do check any family in an investigation, whatever their background. I am however very impressed that it took you so long to introduce the race card into the argument. However it has to be said that as certain races shout the loudest, it is always them who get the media attention. I personally know a number of people who have been investigated by police for their activities (actually concerning animal rights) and they are all white......

Score: 1

edstar
1:31pm Thu 31 Jul 14

alroutemaster wrote…

edstar wrote…

alroutemaster wrote…

edstar wrote…

alroutemaster wrote…

Edstar: There is, and never was, any evidence that the bloke in the river was murdered. Just because someone called him a name does not mean they murdered him. Lots of people have got pi**ed and fallen in the river. The point I am making is that due to his racial origin there is always going to be this stage-managed campaign alleging racism. If he had been a white kid nobody would have questioned the outcome.

You missed the main point which is why were the police investigating the family.

They always check out these type of people as they may be political agitators or (as in the Stephen Lawrence case) worse.......

What??? so Stephen Lawrences family are "worse" than political agitators because they wanted justice after the police mishandled his murder case as he was black? You really have some chip on your shoulder.

As you use to work for the police, let me ask you this, would these families have been investigated if they were white?

Edstar: The short answer to your question is that the police do check any family in an investigation, whatever their background. I am however very impressed that it took you so long to introduce the race card into the argument. However it has to be said that as certain races shout the loudest, it is always them who get the media attention. I personally know a number of people who have been investigated by police for their activities (actually concerning animal rights) and they are all white......

I am impressed that you failed to notice that you introduced the race card much earlier on. But i suspect that the chip on your shoulder stops you from seeing it or maybe its the the police training you had during the years of institutional racism.

[quote][p][bold]alroutemaster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]edstar[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]alroutemaster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]edstar[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]alroutemaster[/bold] wrote:
Edstar: There is, and never was, any evidence that the bloke in the river was murdered. Just because someone called him a name does not mean they murdered him. Lots of people have got pi**ed and fallen in the river. The point I am making is that due to his racial origin there is always going to be this stage-managed campaign alleging racism. If he had been a white kid nobody would have questioned the outcome.[/p][/quote]You missed the main point which is why were the police investigating the family.[/p][/quote]They always check out these type of people as they may be political agitators or (as in the Stephen Lawrence case) worse.......[/p][/quote]What??? so Stephen Lawrences family are "worse" than political agitators because they wanted justice after the police mishandled his murder case as he was black? You really have some chip on your shoulder.
As you use to work for the police, let me ask you this, would these families have been investigated if they were white?[/p][/quote]Edstar: The short answer to your question is that the police do check any family in an investigation, whatever their background. I am however very impressed that it took you so long to introduce the race card into the argument. However it has to be said that as certain races shout the loudest, it is always them who get the media attention. I personally know a number of people who have been investigated by police for their activities (actually concerning animal rights) and they are all white......[/p][/quote]I am impressed that you failed to notice that you introduced the race card much earlier on. But i suspect that the chip on your shoulder stops you from seeing it or maybe its the the police training you had during the years of institutional racism.edstar

alroutemaster wrote…

edstar wrote…

alroutemaster wrote…

edstar wrote…

alroutemaster wrote…

Edstar: There is, and never was, any evidence that the bloke in the river was murdered. Just because someone called him a name does not mean they murdered him. Lots of people have got pi**ed and fallen in the river. The point I am making is that due to his racial origin there is always going to be this stage-managed campaign alleging racism. If he had been a white kid nobody would have questioned the outcome.

You missed the main point which is why were the police investigating the family.

They always check out these type of people as they may be political agitators or (as in the Stephen Lawrence case) worse.......

What??? so Stephen Lawrences family are "worse" than political agitators because they wanted justice after the police mishandled his murder case as he was black? You really have some chip on your shoulder.

As you use to work for the police, let me ask you this, would these families have been investigated if they were white?

Edstar: The short answer to your question is that the police do check any family in an investigation, whatever their background. I am however very impressed that it took you so long to introduce the race card into the argument. However it has to be said that as certain races shout the loudest, it is always them who get the media attention. I personally know a number of people who have been investigated by police for their activities (actually concerning animal rights) and they are all white......

I am impressed that you failed to notice that you introduced the race card much earlier on. But i suspect that the chip on your shoulder stops you from seeing it or maybe its the the police training you had during the years of institutional racism.

Score: -1

alroutemaster
3:16pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Edstar: Years of "multicultural" awareness courses and similar PC crap made me what I am today. And lets not forget either that the killers of SL were convicted using evidence from concealed cameras and microphones. My main gripe in the SL case is that you'd think he was the only teenager in London history to get murdered, when the fact is that they are being killed daily, mostly by their own kind, using concealed weapons that the police could find and remove,but SL's mummy got stop and search halted because it was "racist".

Edstar: Years of "multicultural" awareness courses and similar PC crap made me what I am today. And lets not forget either that the killers of SL were convicted using evidence from concealed cameras and microphones. My main gripe in the SL case is that you'd think he was the only teenager in London history to get murdered, when the fact is that they are being killed daily, mostly by their own kind, using concealed weapons that the police could find and remove,but SL's mummy got stop and search halted because it was "racist".alroutemaster

Edstar: Years of "multicultural" awareness courses and similar PC crap made me what I am today. And lets not forget either that the killers of SL were convicted using evidence from concealed cameras and microphones. My main gripe in the SL case is that you'd think he was the only teenager in London history to get murdered, when the fact is that they are being killed daily, mostly by their own kind, using concealed weapons that the police could find and remove,but SL's mummy got stop and search halted because it was "racist".

Score: 1

tfeaver
8:38pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Tony from Surbiton wrote…

I can understand the family being upset, but the police are just doing their job. I can understand that if your cild has died in unexplained circumstances, you would want answers as soon as possible. You certainly wouldn't want the police wasting their time spying on the family, when they could be doing more productive things.

However, (and without making any suggestions relating to this particular death) often attacks, rapes, murders are carried out by the family or close family friend - so the police do need to think this is a possibility in every crime/death scene they attend. It's a horrible thought, and it must be horrible to think that others believe that you could be involved in such things (I've no knowledge if that's what was happening here) - but that is the unfortunate world the police need to work in. Let them get on with their work.

You are such a lowlife shame on u

[quote][p][bold]Tony from Surbiton[/bold] wrote:
I can understand the family being upset, but the police are just doing their job. I can understand that if your cild has died in unexplained circumstances, you would want answers as soon as possible. You certainly wouldn't want the police wasting their time spying on the family, when they could be doing more productive things.
However, (and without making any suggestions relating to this particular death) often attacks, rapes, murders are carried out by the family or close family friend - so the police do need to think this is a possibility in every crime/death scene they attend. It's a horrible thought, and it must be horrible to think that others believe that you could be involved in such things (I've no knowledge if that's what was happening here) - but that is the unfortunate world the police need to work in. Let them get on with their work.[/p][/quote]You are such a lowlife shame on utfeaver

Tony from Surbiton wrote…

I can understand the family being upset, but the police are just doing their job. I can understand that if your cild has died in unexplained circumstances, you would want answers as soon as possible. You certainly wouldn't want the police wasting their time spying on the family, when they could be doing more productive things.

However, (and without making any suggestions relating to this particular death) often attacks, rapes, murders are carried out by the family or close family friend - so the police do need to think this is a possibility in every crime/death scene they attend. It's a horrible thought, and it must be horrible to think that others believe that you could be involved in such things (I've no knowledge if that's what was happening here) - but that is the unfortunate world the police need to work in. Let them get on with their work.

You are such a lowlife shame on u

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tfeaver
8:35pm Sat 9 Aug 14

I watched a program last night and it really upset me. And feel for the family i know it was a long time ago ...but ..A young man was murdered and apparently this was not a racist attack.I think it was for sure...and regardless of that ricky was murdered and the vicious killers are probably married with kids of their own. in there late 30s and have got a way with murder. Well why should the family not want justice.the police have done nothing from what I can tell..not high profile news!!! ignored the cctv of the black bmw with the door and boot open...why would he go near water if he had a phobia with water.... seriously if this was your child you would not stop until justice was done.. I believe in ...KARMA.. what goes around comes around and all will be dealt with accordingly R.I.P .... RICKY REEL

I watched a program last night and it really upset me. And feel for the family i know it was a long time ago ...but ..A young man was murdered and apparently this was not a racist attack.I think it was for sure...and regardless of that ricky was murdered and the vicious killers are probably married with kids of their own. in there late 30s and have got a way with murder. Well why should the family not want justice.the police have done nothing from what I can tell..not high profile news!!! ignored the cctv of the black bmw with the door and boot open...why would he go near water if he had a phobia with water.... seriously if this was your child you would not stop until justice was done.. I believe in ...KARMA.. what goes around comes around and all will be dealt with accordingly R.I.P .... RICKY REELtfeaver

I watched a program last night and it really upset me. And feel for the family i know it was a long time ago ...but ..A young man was murdered and apparently this was not a racist attack.I think it was for sure...and regardless of that ricky was murdered and the vicious killers are probably married with kids of their own. in there late 30s and have got a way with murder. Well why should the family not want justice.the police have done nothing from what I can tell..not high profile news!!! ignored the cctv of the black bmw with the door and boot open...why would he go near water if he had a phobia with water.... seriously if this was your child you would not stop until justice was done.. I believe in ...KARMA.. what goes around comes around and all will be dealt with accordingly R.I.P .... RICKY REEL

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