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the way we govern our country. it is a good, therapeutic way to look in anonhostileenvironmentas to where we need to go with the country. >> john: the fact it is a nonhostile environment means it won't be covered on most cable news outlets. i'm looking over the roster of speakers. of course you're there as well as james carvel and mary madeline. i guess their merge is a model for this kind of event. you have trent lott and ted strickland, jonathan capehart and another married couple, avalon and hoover. it seems like a really, really inspiring roster of people. so i guess let me ask you why did things turn out the way they did last week on election day? >> you know, first of all, it was close but i think that -- you know, most of the pundits got it right. that is i think the people sense that the economy was getting better while slowly things were kind of turning in the right direction. and i think they were willing to give the president the benefit of the doubt under those circumstances. i also think that the

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cancer when it is stage one and , that has a lotcommo of economics. this is adifferentenvironment, andwe should not let the republicans say, we can just hide this. i do not want to hear how you hide your views. i want to hear how you change your views. >> when you see the message on how to integrate these ideas that they are part of the issues s?at affect your live specimen >> when we were targeting battleground states, these women were reacting to what voters were reacting to. when we are talking about getting more and women into the pipeline, i want to go back to the big story of this campaign and recruiting and getting more women involved and waking up that independent voter, who is becoming more conscious of these issues but also thinking about running and which party they might align with the reagan -- they might align with. one thing we talked about is the amount of money spent on these campaigns that paralyzes the candidates, because they look at it like, how can i even take that on? part of these independent female voters. >> turning out women, i think this was not just a