Cassow's pretty dope. So is Jon Belz. Luck One. Chicharones. Illmac. Iame. (pretty much anybody from Oldominion or Sandpeople). That's about all you need to check out from Portland. There's other good stuff but it's mostly pretty mehhhhhh.

But lately I'm liking it... how does that happen? I'm 40 years old, and the classic hard rock/metal guy.

See old dogs can learn new tricks!

It's really interesting. The older I get (I'm 34) the less and less I like any of it. And I grew up loving it! It's been a big part of my whole life. I think I just overdid it (not to mention making a career out of it; seemed like a good idea at the time ) and now I'm just sick of it. But there is still really good stuff out there, and I'll still defend it to the death against people like Les and Rob who are wholly ignorant on the subject.

So......I'll leave it to the rap afficionados to tell me if this is supposed to be good or not, but I can tell you that i didn't like it. Very run-of-the-mill backing track and what appeared to be a bunch of Seattle and hip-hop tropes and cliches trotted out over it. Am i wrong here? this type of music just bores me to death. And i LOVED Jurassic 5, too. Weird.

peachesenregalia wrote:So......I'll leave it to the rap afficionados to tell me if this is supposed to be good or not, but I can tell you that i didn't like it. Very run-of-the-mill backing track and what appeared to be a bunch of Seattle and hip-hop tropes and cliches trotted out over it. Am i wrong here? this type of music just bores me to death. And i LOVED Jurassic 5, too. Weird.

No, it's not very good. The flow and lyrics are really very basic, plus this has to be about the 4th or 5th remake I've heard of that Adele song. And maybe that's unfair because I hear a lot of stuff that nobody else ever does, but I can't change what I've heard.

And I mean no disrespect to Scarfoe, keep doing your thing. You're far from the worst I've heard and if you love doing it then who cares anyway, keep doing what you enjoy. And you're repping Seattle so I can't hate.

peaches, here's a few songs about Seattle that I enjoy. not saying you will, but it's worth a shot. the Jake One and Macklemore songs are still pretty basic, but they've got a good feel IMO. The Dark Time one is only loosely about Seattle, and really only specifically the last song in the trilogy but it's my crew so I guess I'm biased haha.

edit: I'm pretty sure all these videos are somewhere in this thread already but who wants to go back and search for them? Not this guy.

I'm not a backpack rapper like a lot of you guys on here like Jurassic 5 and Jake One and em...But yeah I can't expect everyone to feel it..Thanks for the honest feedbacks though and for taking time to listen to my songs. I really appreciate it. Here are a few more tracks I did. It's real different from the last one I posted..

dopeboy206 wrote:I'm not a backpack rapper like a lot of you guys on here like Jurassic 5 and Jake One and em...But yeah I can't expect everyone to feel it..Thanks for the honest feedbacks though and for taking time to listen to my songs. I really appreciate it. Here are a few more tracks I did. It's real different from the last one I posted..

Man, it's just....it's all so bland to me. Why does no-one in hip-hop want to do anything interesting with beats or syncopation or time signatures or even taking interesting samples of more obscure songs and doing something fantastic with them? I remember there was a guy down around this area maybe 6 or 7 years ago going by the name of PDA that I really liked. He sampled "I've got a brand new pair of rollerskates" And made a fantastic track with it.

Macklemore is boring to me too. Haven't we heard all of this kind of stuff before? I just don't get it. Hip-hop/rap has become pop music and has stagnated, in my opinion. I'm interested by innovation. Now, that's not to say I don't like music that's not necessarily innovative, but so much rap/hip-hop just sounds the same. the same tired urban phraseology, the same cliches, the same feel to just about every song. I genuinely do want to like this kind of music, but I'm almost always disappointed. I think the last rap outfit I really enjoyed was Outkast. Not sure if they're considered good or not.

Scarfoe, if you're enjoying what you're doing, then that's great, but to me, you just sounds like almost every other mainstream rap artist out there. It would be nice to see people try to separate themselves instead of blending in once in a while.

Also, what is up with Macklemore punctuating his rhymes with that really heavy exhale/breath sound? It's really pretentious and annoying. I promise I'm trying here, guys, I have a deep appreciation for music and can appreciate great artists in any genre.

peachesenregalia wrote:Man, it's just....it's all so bland to me. Why does no-one in hip-hop want to do anything interesting with beats or syncopation or time signatures or even taking interesting samples of more obscure songs and doing something fantastic with them? I remember there was a guy down around this area maybe 6 or 7 years ago going by the name of PDA that I really liked. He sampled "I've got a brand new pair of rollerskates" And made a fantastic track with it.

Macklemore is boring to me too. Haven't we heard all of this kind of stuff before? I just don't get it. Hip-hop/rap has become pop music and has stagnated, in my opinion. I'm interested by innovation. Now, that's not to say I don't like music that's not necessarily innovative, but so much rap/hip-hop just sounds the same. the same tired urban phraseology, the same cliches, the same feel to just about every song. I genuinely do want to like this kind of music, but I'm almost always disappointed. I think the last rap outfit I really enjoyed was Outkast. Not sure if they're considered good or not.

It's just what you've been exposed to. There is so much weird/creative/abstract shit out there you just don't ever hear it because it's not presented to you. There's not a large audience for it so it rarely gets any airplay. And the problem with a lot of this type of rap is that it suuuuuuuucks. It's like there's a balance between the standard, acceptable feelable stuff and the experimental, abstract area that's hard to attain. I could probably turn you on to a few groups that do push the boundaries you're talking about if you're truly interested in checking it out.

Macklemore got famous off his pop songs. And I'm not here to defend Mack or try to change anybody's mind about him but he has a back catalog that is in some ways similar but in many ways very different from the 2-3 songs you've heard.

peachesenregalia wrote:Man, it's just....it's all so bland to me. Why does no-one in hip-hop want to do anything interesting with beats or syncopation or time signatures or even taking interesting samples of more obscure songs and doing something fantastic with them? I remember there was a guy down around this area maybe 6 or 7 years ago going by the name of PDA that I really liked. He sampled "I've got a brand new pair of rollerskates" And made a fantastic track with it.

Macklemore is boring to me too. Haven't we heard all of this kind of stuff before? I just don't get it. Hip-hop/rap has become pop music and has stagnated, in my opinion. I'm interested by innovation. Now, that's not to say I don't like music that's not necessarily innovative, but so much rap/hip-hop just sounds the same. the same tired urban phraseology, the same cliches, the same feel to just about every song. I genuinely do want to like this kind of music, but I'm almost always disappointed. I think the last rap outfit I really enjoyed was Outkast. Not sure if they're considered good or not.

It's just what you've been exposed to. There is so much weird/creative/abstract shit out there you just don't ever hear it because it's not presented to you. There's not a large audience for it so it rarely gets any airplay. And the problem with a lot of this type of rap is that it suuuuuuuucks. It's like there's a balance between the standard, acceptable feelable stuff and the experimental, abstract area that's hard to attain. I could probably turn you on to a few groups that do push the boundaries you're talking about if you're truly interested in checking it out.

Macklemore got famous off his pop songs. And I'm not here to defend Mack or try to change anybody's mind about him but he has a back catalog that is in some ways similar but in many ways very different from the 2-3 songs you've heard.

Oh, and yes, Outkast is pretty much the best.

I honestly would like to hear the experimental shit, if you wouldn't mind sorting me out with some names/songs, I'd be ever so grateful.

And for the record no ones saying you don't have a snow balls chance in hell, but I think what they're saying is dare to be a bit different or "off" and please don't do the fake psycho stuff, we got enough of that struggle shit here in he south sound. But you won't get noticed if your falling in lockstep every step of the way.

I dunno I'm just a dude working minimum wage that had similar dreams, still got the MPC chillin on the desk. But I think it'd serve you better to try and work on your presence and cadence n all that and tweak the subject matter a bit.

dopeboy206 wrote:I'm not a backpack rapper like a lot of you guys on here like Jurassic 5 and Jake One and em...But yeah I can't expect everyone to feel it..Thanks for the honest feedbacks though and for taking time to listen to my songs. I really appreciate it. Here are a few more tracks I did. It's real different from the last one I posted..

Man, it's just....it's all so bland to me. Why does no-one in hip-hop want to do anything interesting with beats or syncopation or time signatures or even taking interesting samples of more obscure songs and doing something fantastic with them? I remember there was a guy down around this area maybe 6 or 7 years ago going by the name of PDA that I really liked. He sampled "I've got a brand new pair of rollerskates" And made a fantastic track with it.

Macklemore is boring to me too. Haven't we heard all of this kind of stuff before? I just don't get it. Hip-hop/rap has become pop music and has stagnated, in my opinion. I'm interested by innovation. Now, that's not to say I don't like music that's not necessarily innovative, but so much rap/hip-hop just sounds the same. the same tired urban phraseology, the same cliches, the same feel to just about every song. I genuinely do want to like this kind of music, but I'm almost always disappointed. I think the last rap outfit I really enjoyed was Outkast. Not sure if they're considered good or not.

Scarfoe, if you're enjoying what you're doing, then that's great, but to me, you just sounds like almost every other mainstream rap artist out there. It would be nice to see people try to separate themselves instead of blending in once in a while.

Also, what is up with Macklemore punctuating his rhymes with that really heavy exhale/breath sound? It's really pretentious and annoying. I promise I'm trying here, guys, I have a deep appreciation for music and can appreciate great artists in any genre.

Thanks for the feedbacks! You honestly think I sound like all these other mainstream artists? I just make the music and let the people do the judging...Good or bad I can take criticism. Personally I don't think I sound like any mainstream artists but I guess we all have different ears..Once again thanks for taking ya time to listen (if you did)...100 bruh bruh..

peachesenregalia wrote:Man, it's just....it's all so bland to me. Why does no-one in hip-hop want to do anything interesting with beats or syncopation or time signatures or even taking interesting samples of more obscure songs and doing something fantastic with them? I remember there was a guy down around this area maybe 6 or 7 years ago going by the name of PDA that I really liked. He sampled "I've got a brand new pair of rollerskates" And made a fantastic track with it.

Macklemore is boring to me too. Haven't we heard all of this kind of stuff before? I just don't get it. Hip-hop/rap has become pop music and has stagnated, in my opinion. I'm interested by innovation. Now, that's not to say I don't like music that's not necessarily innovative, but so much rap/hip-hop just sounds the same. the same tired urban phraseology, the same cliches, the same feel to just about every song. I genuinely do want to like this kind of music, but I'm almost always disappointed. I think the last rap outfit I really enjoyed was Outkast. Not sure if they're considered good or not.

It's just what you've been exposed to. There is so much weird/creative/abstract shit out there you just don't ever hear it because it's not presented to you. There's not a large audience for it so it rarely gets any airplay. And the problem with a lot of this type of rap is that it suuuuuuuucks. It's like there's a balance between the standard, acceptable feelable stuff and the experimental, abstract area that's hard to attain. I could probably turn you on to a few groups that do push the boundaries you're talking about if you're truly interested in checking it out.

Macklemore got famous off his pop songs. And I'm not here to defend Mack or try to change anybody's mind about him but he has a back catalog that is in some ways similar but in many ways very different from the 2-3 songs you've heard.

Oh, and yes, Outkast is pretty much the best.

We all have different tastes. I'm an artist but I'm also a fan of hiphop/rap..I peeped out most of the songs you posted and none of them will make my playlists. I'm just not a fan of backpack rap...It just sounds weird to me. I'm not hatin but they're just not my preference. To each its own I guess...

dopeboy206 wrote:I'm not a backpack rapper like a lot of you guys on here like Jurassic 5 and Jake One and em...But yeah I can't expect everyone to feel it..Thanks for the honest feedbacks though and for taking time to listen to my songs. I really appreciate it. Here are a few more tracks I did. It's real different from the last one I posted..

Man, it's just....it's all so bland to me. Why does no-one in hip-hop want to do anything interesting with beats or syncopation or time signatures or even taking interesting samples of more obscure songs and doing something fantastic with them? I remember there was a guy down around this area maybe 6 or 7 years ago going by the name of PDA that I really liked. He sampled "I've got a brand new pair of rollerskates" And made a fantastic track with it.

Macklemore is boring to me too. Haven't we heard all of this kind of stuff before? I just don't get it. Hip-hop/rap has become pop music and has stagnated, in my opinion. I'm interested by innovation. Now, that's not to say I don't like music that's not necessarily innovative, but so much rap/hip-hop just sounds the same. the same tired urban phraseology, the same cliches, the same feel to just about every song. I genuinely do want to like this kind of music, but I'm almost always disappointed. I think the last rap outfit I really enjoyed was Outkast. Not sure if they're considered good or not.

Scarfoe, if you're enjoying what you're doing, then that's great, but to me, you just sounds like almost every other mainstream rap artist out there. It would be nice to see people try to separate themselves instead of blending in once in a while.

Also, what is up with Macklemore punctuating his rhymes with that really heavy exhale/breath sound? It's really pretentious and annoying. I promise I'm trying here, guys, I have a deep appreciation for music and can appreciate great artists in any genre.

Thanks for the feedbacks! You honestly think I sound like all these other mainstream artists? I just make the music and let the people do the judging...Good or bad I can take criticism. Personally I don't think I sound like any mainstream artists but I guess we all have different ears..Once again thanks for taking ya time to listen (if you did)...100 bruh bruh..

I listened to the first three tracks. Are you building those backing tracks or is someone else? I'd be interested to know if you ever experiment with interestin syncopation or time signatures, or like changing up the tempo/time signature mid-song. Just all seemed like it was 4/4 at about 220 bpm to me.