topic Re: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0 in Sansa® Clip | Sansa® Clip+https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66368#M15335
<P>Chapter Mode is the equivalent of the rarely used Index function in standard audio CDs.&nbsp; Thus, you aren't playing an individual chapter file (the function is to support Audible .aa format files), the display is showing the current indexed chapter.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>So, "delete book" is simply deleting the current file loaded.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Bob&nbsp; <img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://sansa.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /></P>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:34:05 GMTneutron_bob2008-10-14T14:34:05ZSansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64587#M15285
<TABLE border="0" class="msg_table"><TBODY><TR><TD class="msg_text_cell"><TABLE border="0" class="msg_table"><TBODY><TR><TD class="msg_text_cell"><DIV><FONT size="2"><FONT size="3"><STRONG>Follow the instructions below to&nbsp;verify the hardware revision of your Clip before proceeding.</STRONG>&nbsp;</FONT> <UL><LI><FONT size="2">Turn on your Clip </FONT></LI><LI><FONT size="2">Select Settings from the main menu</FONT></LI><LI><FONT size="2">Select System Info</FONT></LI><LI><FONT size="2">Look at the Version #</FONT></LI></UL><BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="2">Revision 1 = 1.XX.XX (example: 1.01.29)</FONT></P><P><FONT size="2">Revision 2 = 2.XX.XX (example: 2.01.16)</FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="2">If your Clip is Revision 2 click <A href="http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&amp;message.id=10534&amp;jump=true#M10534" target="_blank">here</A></FONT></P><P><FONT size="2">If your Clip is Revision&nbsp;1 proceed to the following instructions.</FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><HR />&nbsp;</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT size="2">SanDisk has just released the 01.01.30 firmware revision for the Sansa Clip. Download links and the release notes are available below.</FONT></DIV><P><FONT size="2">Let me start off by saying that majority of people will be able to update his/her firmware through the </FONT><A href="http://www.sandisk.com/Retail/Default.aspx?CatID=1376" target="_blank"><FONT size="2" color="#ff0000">Sansa Firmware Updater</FONT></A><FONT size="2">. There is even a </FONT><A href="http://mp3support.sandisk.com/mp3/updatefirmware.wmv" target="_blank"><FONT size="2" color="#ff0000">how-to video</FONT></A><FONT size="2"> that explains the process. If for any reason the aforementioned steps do not work for you, then please feel free to continue by trying the more&nbsp;"computer savy"&nbsp;steps, described below.</FONT></P><FONT size="2"><HR /></FONT><STRONG><BR /><FONT size="2">Windows</FONT></STRONG><FONT size="2"> Users can Connect the device in any Mode and follow the instructions below.<BR /><BR /><STRONG>Mac </STRONG>and<STRONG> Linux </STRONG>users can connect their Clip in MSC mode and follow the instructions below. </FONT><P><FONT size="2">MSC mode instructions:</FONT></P><OL><LI><FONT size="2">Turn on the Clip </FONT></LI><LI><FONT size="2">Put the device in Hold (move Hold button until orange is showing) </FONT></LI><LI><FONT size="2">Press and hold the Center Button </FONT></LI><LI><FONT size="2">Plug the mini-USB connector into the device (be sure the USB is plugged into the computer) </FONT></LI><LI><FONT size="2">Wait for the Clip drive to mount </FONT></LI><LI><FONT size="2">Follow instructions below and drag files to the Clip drive</FONT></LI></OL><BR /><FONT size="2"><HR /></FONT><P><BR /><FONT size="2">For <STRONG>AMERICAS</STRONG> - You can download the .zip file by </FONT><FONT size="2" color="#ff0000"><A href="http://mp3support.sandisk.com/firmware/clip/clip01.01.30a.zip" target="_blank">clicking on this link.</A></FONT> <BR /><BR /><FONT size="2">For <STRONG>EUROPE w/o FM </STRONG>- You can download the .zip file by </FONT><A href="http://mp3support.sandisk.com/firmware/clip/clip01.01.30e.zip" target="_blank">clicking on this link.</A></P><P><FONT size="2">For <STRONG>EUROPE w/ FM</STRONG> - You can download the .zip file by </FONT><A href="http://mp3support.sandisk.com/firmware/clip/clip01.01.30f.zip" target="_blank">clicking on this link. </A><FONT size="2">&nbsp;</FONT> </P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="2">For <STRONG>HEBREW w/o FM</STRONG> - You can download the .zip file by <A href="http://mp3support.sandisk.com/firmware/clip/clip01.01.30g.zip" target="_blank">clicking on this link</A></FONT></P><P><FONT size="2">For <STRONG>HEBREW w/ FM</STRONG> - You can download the .zip file by <A href="http://mp3support.sandisk.com/firmware/clip/clip01.01.30h.zip" target="_blank">clicking this link</A></FONT></P><OL><LI><FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000">Ensure&nbsp;<FONT face="Arial">your battery is &gt; 50% full.</FONT></FONT></FONT></LI><LI><FONT size="2">Extract the .zip file into a folder on your computer. </FONT></LI><LI><FONT size="2">Once extracted, drag the file to the </FONT><A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_directory" target="_blank"><FONT size="2" color="#ff0000">root directory</FONT></A><FONT size="2"> of your Sansa Clip. </FONT></LI><LI><FONT size="2">Disconnect the Sansa Clip and let it restart. </FONT></LI><LI><FONT size="2">The firmware update will now begin. </FONT></LI><LI><FONT size="2">Once it finally finishes doing its update, it will boot back up. Once its back to the main menu, head to "Settings" &gt; "System Info", and verify the "Version" is now 01.01.30A.<BR /></FONT></LI></OL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><DIV class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: center"><HR /></DIV><P align="center"><SPAN style="font-size: 9pt; color: #666666; font-family: Verdana"><SPAN style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Verdana">Sansa Clip (Revision 1) Firmware 01.01.30 Release Notes</SPAN><BR /></SPAN></P><SPAN style="font-size: 9pt; color: #666666; font-family: Verdana"><SPAN style="font-size: 9pt; color: #666666; font-family: Verdana"><DIV class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: center"><HR /></DIV><P align="center"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3">&nbsp;</FONT></P></SPAN></SPAN><P style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify" class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3">This new firmware has various bug fixes, including key fixes listed below, as well as enhancements. Upon completion of the firmware upgrade, the device will turn off. <SPAN>&nbsp;</SPAN>Power on the device to complete the upgrade process.<SPAN>&nbsp; </SPAN>If the device does not initiate or complete, press &amp; hold the Power switch for 10 seconds to reset the device and then release and press again to restart.</FONT></P><P style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify" class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3">&nbsp;</FONT></P><P style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify" class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</P><U><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 150%; font-family: Verdana">Enhancements</SPAN></U><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 150%; font-family: Verdana">:</SPAN> <UL><LI><DIV class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 150%; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list .25in"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 150%; font-family: Verdana">FLAC decoder support</SPAN></DIV></LI><LI><DIV class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 150%; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list .25in"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 150%; font-family: Verdana">Allow Podcasts to skip episodes using FF / REW</SPAN></DIV></LI><LI><DIV class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 150%; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list .25in"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 150%; font-family: Verdana">New startup and shutoff images</SPAN></DIV></LI><LI><DIV class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 150%; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list .25in"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 150%; font-family: Verdana">Improved the time to rebuild the metadata</SPAN></DIV></LI><LI><DIV class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 150%; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list .25in"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 150%; font-family: Verdana">Improved M3U playlist support</SPAN></DIV></LI><LI><DIV class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 150%; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list .25in"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 150%; font-family: Verdana">Enhancements for sorting Podcast contents which do not have their track number ID3 tag information </SPAN></DIV></LI><LI><DIV class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 150%; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list .25in"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 150%; font-family: Verdana">Separate missing license error message for Audible and generic Audiobooks.<SPAN>&nbsp; </SPAN>Message changed to instruct the customer in how to resolve the problem</SPAN></DIV></LI></UL><P style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 150%; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list .25in" class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</P><P style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 10pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: center 3.75in" class="MsoNormal"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana"><U>Bugs Fixed</U>:</SPAN></P><P style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 10pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: center 3.75in" class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</P><UL><LI><DIV class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 10pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: center 3.75in"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana">OGG placed in Audiobook or podcast folder shows up in Music directory</SPAN></DIV></LI><LI><DIV class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 10pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list .25in"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana">Delete song from a long playlist causes the device to hang</SPAN></DIV></LI><LI><DIV class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 10pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list .25in"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana">Selecting “Back to Music List” while playing FM/Voice recordings will display double “Play All” on screen &amp; will cause device to hang upon selecting “Play All”&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></DIV></LI><LI><DIV class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 10pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list .25in"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana">Certain tag information for mp3 files will cause the device to hang or freeze</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana">&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV></LI><LI><DIV class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 10pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list .25in"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana">Made <SPAN>&nbsp;</SPAN>OGG file Tags not case sensitive</SPAN></DIV></LI><LI><DIV class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 10pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list .25in"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana">Noise problem on voice recording</SPAN></DIV></LI><LI><DIV class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 10pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list .25in"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana">Device in MTP mode will jump back to AutoSelect mode after UI format</SPAN></DIV></LI><LI><DIV class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 10pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list .25in"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana">Device behaves erratically when file extension got changed (i.e.<SPAN>&nbsp; </SPAN>.txt to .mp3, .jpg to .wma)</SPAN></DIV></LI><LI><DIV class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 10pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list .25in"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana">All Audiobooks should show 1/1 if Chapter Mode is OFF</SPAN></DIV></LI><LI><DIV class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 10pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list .25in"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana">Certain Rhapsody tracks show clicking noises</SPAN></DIV></LI><LI><DIV class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 10pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list .25in"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana">Deactivation message “Synchronize to listen to your Audiobooks” for Audible is uninformative and irrelevant</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Verdana">&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV></LI></UL><P style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 10pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list .25in" class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</P><P style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 10pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list .25in" class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</P><P style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: 150%; text-align: justify" class="MsoNormal"><U><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 150%; font-family: Verdana">Known Issues</SPAN></U><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 150%; font-family: Verdana">:</SPAN></P><UL><LI><DIV class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 150%; tab-stops: list .25in"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 150%; font-family: Verdana">Selecting Playback speed to “Fast” while playing Podcasts may cause the device to lag.</SPAN></DIV></LI><LI><DIV class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 150%; tab-stops: list .25in"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 150%; font-family: Verdana">Add to GoList does not work for Podcast content</SPAN></DIV></LI></UL><P style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; text-align: justify" class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3">&nbsp;</FONT></P><P style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify" class="MsoNormal"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana">&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></P><P style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify" class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><DIV class="message-edit-history"><SPAN class="edit-author">Message Edited by Lil_Monsta on </SPAN><SPAN class="local-date">10-03-2008</SPAN><SPAN class="local-time"> 11:22 AM</SPAN></DIV><DIV class="message-edit-history"><SPAN class="edit-author">Message Edited by Lil_Monsta on </SPAN><SPAN class="local-date">10-03-2008</SPAN><SPAN class="local-time"> 11:58 AM</SPAN></DIV><DIV class="message-edit-history"><SPAN class="edit-author">Message Edited by Lil_Monsta on </SPAN><SPAN class="local-date">11-05-2008</SPAN><SPAN class="local-time"> 02:48 PM</SPAN></DIV><DIV class="message-edit-history"><SPAN class="edit-author">Message Edited by slotmonsta on </SPAN><SPAN class="local-date"> 12-18-2008</SPAN><SPAN class="local-time"> 09:44 AM</SPAN></DIV>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:44:56 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64587#M15285SansaMe2008-12-18T17:44:56ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64724#M15286
Updated 3 clips in about as many minutes with no problems, thanks!Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:33:51 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64724#M15286summerlove2008-10-03T19:33:51ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64726#M15287
<P>I did the update and it says version is 01.01.30F not 01.01.20A as it says in the instructions.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>EDIT: just so you know, updating the fw deletes you Custom EQ settings so write them down before you upgrade!</P><DIV class="message-edit-history"><SPAN class="edit-author">Message Edited by ackers on </SPAN><SPAN class="local-date">10-03-2008</SPAN><SPAN class="local-time"> 12:39 PM</SPAN></DIV>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:39:32 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64726#M15287ackers2008-10-03T19:39:32ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64751#M15288
Where do you see .20?&nbsp; What instructions?Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:05:14 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64751#M15288SansaMe2008-10-03T20:05:14ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64767#M15289
Upgrading also loses your audiobook bookmarksFri, 03 Oct 2008 20:31:38 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64767#M15289rdow2008-10-03T20:31:38ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64770#M15290
<P>Ohh yes ! <img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://sansa.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /> First good thing, that happened at Friday <img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://sansa.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /> Everything is working great, now I've got to convert my Audio CD's to FLAC <img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://sansa.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /></P><P>&nbsp;</P>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:35:06 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64770#M15290n0rbi6662008-10-03T20:35:06ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64774#M15291
<P>Found one "Bug Fix" I hate:</P><P><SPAN class="Apple-style-span">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; All Audiobooks should show 1/1 if Chapter Mode is OFF&nbsp;</SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>What is the logic here? &nbsp;I liked it showing me I was on file 17 of the 27 that make up the book, gave me a good sense of where I was in the book made up of multiple files. &nbsp;Now to get that back I have to switch to chapter mode where an accidental hit of the FF/RW buttons will skip me to another file?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Please change this feature back!&nbsp;</P>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:36:36 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64774#M15291rdow2008-10-03T20:36:36ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64777#M15292
Ok, I have the firmware installed.... Now let's see how the battery life is. There's no mention of any changes to the meter, so I guess nothing was done about that? I'm surprised &amp; disappointed, since I had proven TWICE that adjusting the meter effects the battery life.Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:46:44 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64777#M15292Sasafrass4522008-10-03T20:46:44ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64782#M15293
<P>Rdow,</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>No worries if you accidentally skip to another file,&nbsp; you can skip back and your place will be remembered.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Sorry for that. </P>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:07:59 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64782#M15293sansafix2008-10-03T21:07:59ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64804#M15294
Sansafix, thanks for the info. That will help. I'll try it out for awhile and see how it goes. And thanks for the continuing firmware updates.Fri, 03 Oct 2008 23:45:13 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64804#M15294rdow2008-10-03T23:45:13ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64806#M15295
oooww, I hoped there were a new feature like fast playing speed for all the song, that's too funny :-(<BR />Fri, 03 Oct 2008 23:51:23 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64806#M15295zacsonoio2008-10-03T23:51:23ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64808#M15296
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="5"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR />Where do you see .20?&nbsp; What instructions?<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Oops sorry I meant .30A.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>In the instructions it says to check fw version go to settings and it should say .30A but I did that and mine says .30F ?</P>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 00:01:53 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64808#M15296ackers2008-10-04T00:01:53ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64813#M15297
there are 3 different versions of the firmware. did you download and install the americas firmware? f is&nbsp;European&nbsp;firmware with fm radio a is for america.&nbsp;<DIV class="message-edit-history"><SPAN class="edit-author">Message Edited by drlucky on </SPAN><SPAN class="local-date">10-03-2008</SPAN><SPAN class="local-time"> 05:26 PM</SPAN></DIV>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 00:26:18 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64813#M15297drlucky2008-10-04T00:26:18ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64833#M15298
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="7"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR />there are 3 different versions of the firmware. did you download and install the americas firmware? f is&nbsp;European&nbsp;firmware with fm radio a is for america.&nbsp;<DIV class="message-edit-history"><SPAN class="edit-author">Message Edited by drlucky on </SPAN><SPAN class="local-date">10-03-2008</SPAN><SPAN class="local-time"> 05:26 PM</SPAN></DIV><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>I checked the links . . . they seemed to all be pointing to the correct versions.Sat, 04 Oct 2008 01:54:57 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64833#M15298Tapeworm2008-10-04T01:54:57ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64852#M15299
also the volume setting is set back 2 normal.Sat, 04 Oct 2008 07:50:32 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64852#M15299fighterblast2008-10-04T07:50:32ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64857#M15300
<P>&nbsp;Thanks for the continuous improvement, the most important is that you never stop doing it. This is my reaction so far (to the features I care of):&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;-Happy for the FLAC decoder support, I'm not planning to convert my CDs to that, but sometimes I get tracks or samples on flac, is nice not having to convert to try</P><P>- I like the new startup and shutoff images, more elegant and simple. But maybe my kids not...</P><P>- Nice you Improved the time to rebuild the metadata, it means shorter refresh?</P><P>- Improved M3U playlist support, could you explain more to try it?</P><P>- Nice Sorting Podcast contents which do not have their track number ID3 tag information</P><P>- Great that you made OGG file Tags case sensitive</P><P>- Happy that you solve the noise problem on voice recording, I never complain here but I experienced that.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Ok, I expect that you include gapless playing someday, but as I said what's important is that you're always working to improve the product. Thanks again.</P>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 10:45:34 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64857#M15300cristiano0072008-10-04T10:45:34ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64864#M15301
<P>I actually liked the 'Hello' and 'Good bye' start-ups and shutdowns better than the ones we have now. <img id="smileytongue" class="emoticon emoticon-smileytongue" src="https://sansa.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif" alt="Smiley Tongue" title="Smiley Tongue" /></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I wish there was a fix for the shuffle algorithm though because it is really not good... <img id="smileysad" class="emoticon emoticon-smileysad" src="https://sansa.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif" alt="Smiley Sad" title="Smiley Sad" /></P>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 13:28:25 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64864#M15301ackers2008-10-04T13:28:25ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64870#M15302
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="12985"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR />Upgrading also loses your audiobook bookmarks<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Does this mean that you don't lose the audiobooks themselves?&nbsp; And you don't lose music?&nbsp; I had assumed the firmware upgrade would wipe the Clip's content, no?</P>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:18:00 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64870#M15302jj2me2008-10-04T14:18:00ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64874#M15303
<P>No, the bookmarking data only.&nbsp; This is part of the file generated when shutting down, which contains data on your last operations.&nbsp; This file gets rewritten when firmware is applied.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Your media (books, music, etc) will all still be there.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Bob&nbsp; <img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://sansa.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /></P>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:35:45 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64874#M15303neutron_bob2008-10-04T14:35:45ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64883#M15304
Thanks much, neutron_bob.&nbsp; I wanted to upgrade, but had several DRM'd audiobooks that I didn't want to lose.&nbsp; This is great news, thanks Sandisk.Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:03:13 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64883#M15304jj2me2008-10-04T15:03:13ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64885#M15305
What is that shape/logo that comes on at the start after the word "sansa" is displayed? &nbsp;Also shows up briefly before the "goodbye".Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:39:51 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64885#M15305rdow2008-10-04T15:39:51ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64927#M15306
<P>Thanks for the new firmware, several things I like!</P><P><BR />However, the Windows Media Player ratings are still off by mostly 1 star <img id="smileysad" class="emoticon emoticon-smileysad" src="https://sansa.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif" alt="Smiley Sad" title="Smiley Sad" /></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Again, this happens on the 2 different clips(my friend and mine), on I think I've tried 4 or 5 PC's with varying versions of WMP, XP, Vista, Win2k, etc.</P>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 18:02:24 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/64927#M15306johnnyz862008-10-04T18:02:24ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65001#M15307
<P>Another easy upgrade!</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I'm&nbsp;with&nbsp;the&nbsp;previous&nbsp;person&nbsp;who&nbsp;preferred&nbsp;the&nbsp;old&nbsp;start/shutdown&nbsp;logos&nbsp;<img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://sansa.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" />&nbsp;but I did notice that startup and shutdown are a second or so faster than previous. &nbsp;And it is true that the metadata collection goes faster, I didn't time the before-and-after but it felt like 1/3 less time.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Thank&nbsp;you&nbsp;Sansa team!!&nbsp;</P>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 06:56:11 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65001#M15307Mushroom2008-10-05T06:56:11ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65040#M15308
<P>In response to the previous poster, my Clip was 1.01.29 and the startup time was an average of 7.2 sec, shutdown 3.75 sec. After upgrading to 1.01.30, startup is about 8 sec, shutdown is about 3.5 sec. So it does take a little longer to start up, but less to shut down. I have about 50 songs, and a few radio and voice recordings: 4GB Clip, 3.5GB free.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>One thing I do LOVE is that the hold switch is designed perfectly. This is one of the problems with the PSP because they have the same slider-type: slide to turn on, slide to turn off, and push down to hold. Whenever I push up, I push to far and the whole PSP turns off! I love how the Clip makes you press up for a second before it turns off so no accidental turn-off. Nice implementation Sandisk!</P>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:24:50 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65040#M15308dcoaster2008-10-05T16:24:50ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65046#M15309
<P>Flac support is great. My whole music collection is flac encoded and I really appreciate it that I don't have to trans-code anymore.</P><P>It is a quantum jump in sound quality with my in-ear earphones.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Many thanks to the developers!</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>BTW this must be the smallest DAP with flac support.</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:52:29 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65046#M15309Octoploid2008-10-05T16:52:29ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65063#M15310
I updated to 1.01.30a today, and it wiped out all my settings and songs on my clip.&nbsp; Did I do anyting wrong ? Or is this normal ? I have done firmware updates before with no issue, Thanks for any help.Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:05:22 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65063#M15310darylvt2008-10-05T18:05:22ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65078#M15311
<P>Applying a new firmware should not interfere with the data area on your Clip.&nbsp; Unless formatted, your music should be there, at least from a device navigation standpoint.&nbsp; If you change USB modes, it will look like your music has "disappeared" on the PC, as files transferred in one mode (MSC / MTP) are not displayed while in the other mode.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Look on the device for your music, and it should still be available.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The cool new logo is outstanding on the Fuze.&nbsp; With its color LCD screen, the word <STRONG>sansa</STRONG> now appears in a large font, rotating and exploding into a zillion color pixels.&nbsp; These pixels coalesce into four color shapes, which are <STRONG>s </STRONG>and <STRONG>a</STRONG>.&nbsp; The middle of five characters is a black <STRONG>n</STRONG>.&nbsp; The wee square is the new <STRONG>sansa</STRONG> logo.&nbsp; If you run the Sansa Updater, this interface just received a major updating to its interface.&nbsp; The new logo is there too.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>This was the closest approximation possible using the OLED display.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I am keeping my fingers crossed for a firmware port to the e200v2 series, taking advantage of its identical processor.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>At the moment, I still enjoy the classic SanDisk sansa logos on it.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Hopefully, we can add the animated <STRONG>sansa</STRONG> logo to the Fuze as displayed on the corporate side of the site.&nbsp; Now THAT will be very cool indeed.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Bob&nbsp; <img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://sansa.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /></P>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:00:40 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65078#M15311neutron_bob2008-10-05T20:00:40ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65092#M15312
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="5851"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><P>The cool new logo is outstanding on the Fuze.&nbsp; With its color LCD screen, the word <STRONG>sansa</STRONG> now appears in a large font, rotating and exploding into a zillion color pixels.&nbsp; These pixels coalesce into four color shapes, which are <STRONG>s </STRONG>and <STRONG>a</STRONG>.&nbsp; The middle of five characters is a black <STRONG>n</STRONG>.&nbsp; The wee square is the new <STRONG>sansa</STRONG> logo.&nbsp; If you run the Sansa Updater, this interface just received a major updating to its interface.&nbsp; The new logo is there too.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>This was the closest approximation possible using the OLED display.</P><P>Bob&nbsp; <img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://sansa.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /></P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE>I figured the logo was something like that. &nbsp; And I understand the value on the development side to keep as much similar as possible between firmware families... but it is just FUGLY on the clip and I actually thought something had gotten messed up on my upgrade; it looked like some strange distorted flower with a square black center.</BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE>&nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 21:32:49 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65092#M15312rdow2008-10-05T21:32:49ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65255#M15313
<P>Thank you for FLAC support!!!</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I don't have to convert my collection when I want to listen to it on my clip anymore! hurray!</P><P>-mlapaglia</P>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:47:34 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65255#M15313mlapaglia2008-10-06T20:47:34ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65758#M15314
<P>Thanks for the new Firmware!! The continuing improvements are always appreciated.</P><P>However,&nbsp;I was wondering about the</P><UL><LI><SPAN>"Improved M3U playlist support"</SPAN></LI></UL><P><SPAN>What is the improvement, exactly? The issue with the absolute/relative paths still seems to be there.</SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN>Also, PLEASE consider the Album Artist tag support for the next firmware!! I will not get tired of asking for that. And besides many practical reasons for it (the better handling of compilation albums, for example), I would invoke the fact that it is the default Artist sorting criterion in Windows Media Player, selectable (very easily) in Winamp as well.</SPAN></P>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:11:42 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65758#M15314porio2008-10-09T21:11:42ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65759#M15315
<P>Dear Sansafix,</P><P>thank you for new firmware, great job.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>But I really miss one feature. Usually I hear audiobooks splitted in many chapters.</P><P>It would be great to see which chapter holds a bookmark like this:</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Chap. 1</P><P>Chap. 2</P><P>...</P><P>...</P><P>*Chap. 53 (with bookmark)</P><P>...</P><P>...</P><P>Chap. X&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Otherwise (in case I switched to music and back to audiobook)</P><P>I have to remember which was the last chapter I was listen to.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Ede</P>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:13:54 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65759#M15315ede2008-10-09T21:13:54ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65772#M15316
<P>Get a Netlibrary account and you will not have this problem.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Good idea for future enhancement though. </P>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:43:51 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65772#M15316sansafix2008-10-09T21:43:51ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65802#M15317
<P>I agree that is a great idea if we can't get a real, per book bookmark. &nbsp;Would definitely be a big improvement. &nbsp;I hope it doesn't seem like we are complaining, we're just trying to give suggestions to make the best audiobook player even better.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Not really a realistic suggestion -- "get a Netlibrary account and you will not have this problem". &nbsp;Many libraries don't offer it and offer Overdrive instead, or don't have a good selection of books. &nbsp;Also many people buy books on CD and rip their own mp3 files or buy mp3 disks from places like Audiobookstand.com.&nbsp;</P>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:16:31 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65802#M15317rdow2008-10-10T02:16:31ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65820#M15318
<P>Nice Firm-update, thanks a lot. &nbsp;</P><P>Unfortunately the equalizer still does not work in the radio mode. (Europe)</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>But there will come out the .31 soon?...<img id="smileytongue" class="emoticon emoticon-smileytongue" src="https://sansa.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif" alt="Smiley Tongue" title="Smiley Tongue" />&nbsp;</P><P>cellosolo</P>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:45:06 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65820#M15318cellosolo2008-10-10T12:45:06ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65821#M15319
<P>The FM radio is feeding an analog audio signal after the digital section of the Clip.&nbsp; You're listening to a different internal chip.&nbsp; The EQ is actually digital, and is part of the Clip's digital processor.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>So, FM is a direct signal, and can't have the EQ feature.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Bob&nbsp; <img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://sansa.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /></P>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:52:05 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65821#M15319neutron_bob2008-10-10T12:52:05ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65885#M15320
THX!Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:23:07 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65885#M15320cellosolo2008-10-10T22:23:07ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65910#M15321
<P>Awesome update first of all&nbsp;<img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://sansa.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>For the next firmware revision, please add Replaygain support for ogg/flac/mp3. Flac and ogg store the replaygain values the same way; and for mp3, support for reading the metadata.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><FONT size="4"><U><STRONG>My Proposal:</STRONG></U></FONT><BR /><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Something like this allows maximum flexibility for the user:</P><P><IMG src="http://www.audiohq.de/articles/foobar/replaygain/replaygain_override_small.png" width="332" height="144" title="fb2k rg plugin" alt="fb2k rg plugin" />&nbsp;</P><P><BR />So based on the playback modes and the playlist of the clip instead...</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Replaygain [submenu in settings and music settings]</P><BLOCKQUOTE><P>Feature&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; -&gt; On/Off [ENABLE/DISABLE ENTIRE FEATURE so they don't have to set 'none' for everything]</P><BR /><P>Normal [submenu, settings for each category]</P><BLOCKQUOTE><P>[Play] Song&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -&gt; Album/Track/None [replaygain tag to use]</P><P>[Play all] Music<BR />[Play all] Artist<BR />[Play all] Album</P><P>[Play all] Genre<BR />[Play] Track</P></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Repeat [submenu, settings for each category]</P><BLOCKQUOTE><P>[Play] Song&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -&gt; Album/Track/None [replaygain tag to use]</P><P>[Play all] Music<BR />[Play all] Artist<BR />[Play all] Album</P><P>[Play all] Genre<BR />[Play] Track</P></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Shuffle [submenu, settings for each category]</P><BLOCKQUOTE><P>[Play] Song&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -&gt; Album/Track/None [replaygain tag to use]</P><P>[Play all] Music<BR />[Play all] Artist<BR />[Play all] Album</P><P>[Play all] Genre<BR />[Play] Track</P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Examples:</P><P>*User selects a single song from the Music-&gt;Songs-&gt;{song}, the clip would use<EM> </EM>the<EM> Song</EM> value depending on the mode.</P><P>*User selects a single song from the Music-&gt;Artist-&gt;(Artist Name)&gt;(Album)-&gt;{song}, the clip would use<EM> </EM>the<EM> Track</EM> value depending on the mode.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>*Assuming shuffle/repeat off, user selects "Play All" in Music-&gt;Albums-&gt;"Play All". RG value used would be Normal_Album,assuming it's set to "Track" the clip would use the "Track" RG value.</P><BLOCKQUOTE><P>Let's say that song finishes and goes to track 2, since it's still in "Play All" Albums, it uses Normal_Album again and "Track".</P></BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE><P>Let's say right before the song ends the user manually selects an individual track from a random album. So we use Normal_Track, assuming it's set to "Track", it uses "Track" RG value.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>**So the user would be able to use Track RG value when selecting Play All in albums, and be able to use Track RG value when switching to a random song.</P><P>**So the settings above would let the user choose exactly what he wants.</P></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Since shuffle overrides repeat it'll just ignore it when it's enabled.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /><P>Hopefully what I wrote is understandable lol&nbsp;<img id="smileytongue" class="emoticon emoticon-smileytongue" src="https://sansa.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif" alt="Smiley Tongue" title="Smiley Tongue" /></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I don't think this would be too hard would it? Before a song is played or selected - do the Pre-play check, select setting to use, read setting then read tags, and adjust output gain.</P><DIV class="message-edit-history"><SPAN class="edit-author">Message Edited by KCE on </SPAN><SPAN class="local-date">10-11-2008</SPAN><SPAN class="local-time"> 03:47 AM</SPAN></DIV>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 10:47:19 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65910#M15321KCE2008-10-11T10:47:19ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65911#M15322
<P>Help Please! I updated the firmware as directed and as I have done before. Everything went smoothly and quickly, as usual. However, when I turned on the clip after updating, all of my albums, songs etc show EMPTY! However, the&nbsp; storage shows 1 gig out of 4 remaning as before the update and when I open the device on my computer, all of my music and audiobook files show up. What happened and what should I do? I tried holding the switch up to reset the divice but to no avail. Your assistance would be greatly appreciated.</P><P>Thanks in advance</P><P>redcow</P>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 07:24:38 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65911#M15322redcow2008-10-11T07:24:38ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65931#M15323
KCE considering the small amount of memory available on the clip your suggestion might be a little excessiveSat, 11 Oct 2008 15:17:46 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65931#M15323summerlove2008-10-11T15:17:46ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65948#M15324
I think that just supporting ReplayGain without any preference should be a good start. Or a simple preference to turn it On/Off. Nothing more for the first version.Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:11:23 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65948#M15324AlfonsoML2008-10-11T17:11:23ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65967#M15325
<P>lol yea you're probably right. I get carried away sometimes. <img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://sansa.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /></P>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:04:09 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65967#M15325KCE2008-10-11T20:04:09ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65969#M15326
<P>I am experiencing the same problem as redcow. The firmware update went smoothly, but when I turn on the device, no music is available - everything shows empty: albums, songs, artists, etc. When connected to my computer, the music is there, but not on the Clip. Has anyone found a solution to this problem? I've never had this happen when updating firmware before. Help!</P>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:10:19 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65969#M15326gracesk2008-10-11T20:10:19ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65998#M15327
This is usually caused by a switch between MTP and MSC modes. &nbsp;Try changing the USB mode in the settings and connecting in the other mode.Sat, 11 Oct 2008 21:16:49 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/65998#M15327rdow2008-10-11T21:16:49ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66042#M15328
Thanks rdow! The clip is now back to normal and I think switching modes from auto detect to another mode and back again did the trick although I'm not 100% sure as I alos tried several other things, all before getting your post. I'd be interested to hear if switching modes worked for the other guy with the same problem. Thanks again.Sun, 12 Oct 2008 02:48:42 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66042#M15328redcow2008-10-12T02:48:42ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66126#M15329
Thanks! My Clip is back to normal too! I also tried several things before getting this post, but I know that one of them was switching from auto detect to another mode and back again. I'll bet that's what did the trick.Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:34:30 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66126#M15329gracesk2008-10-12T20:34:30ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66151#M15330
<DIV>What about the folder support. I hoped it will come in this version.</DIV><DIV>Seems to me very simple, just add it to the Music menu: Artists, Albums .... Folders</DIV><DIV>I think it is very important. Sometimes I collect single songs from different artists</DIV><DIV>and put them in a folder. Since I use MSC mode I don't want to create a playlist</DIV><DIV>and the only way to play them in a sequence is by Folder support.</DIV><DIV>This is the way it is done in the cheapest players around and something I am used to</DIV><DIV>from previous players.</DIV><DIV>Uri</DIV>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:47:48 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66151#M15330uri2008-10-13T00:47:48ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66196#M15331
I would like to be proved wrong, but find it unlikely that folders will be coming to the Clip.&nbsp; SanDisk just seems to dislike them, even though they are a basic, simple, universal&nbsp;technology.Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:37:42 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66196#M15331Miikerman2008-10-13T15:37:42ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66296#M15332
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="8469"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><DIV>What about the folder support. I hoped it will come in this version.</DIV><DIV><U><EM>This is the way it is done in the cheapest players around</EM></U> and something I am used to</DIV><DIV>from previous players.</DIV><DIV>Uri</DIV><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Note that I am not endorsing nor condemning this function. I am perfectly happy &amp; comfortable with the tag-reading that the Sansas do, but I understand that there are a lot of people that want this option.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Maybe SanDisk wants to distance themselves from the players that you describe for the very reason that you state.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Just a thought.</P>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:39:33 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66296#M15332Tapeworm2008-10-14T00:39:33ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66331#M15333
<DIV>In 01.01.30A version of firmware, pressing DOWN key while playing an AudioBook brings up a menu, one of whose entries allows you to "Delete Book". This only deletes a single sound file, not the whole book, but it is a bit confusing. It is especially so when you are playing the book with Ch. Mode turned on, in which case you are conceptually playing an individual "chapter" and expect "Delete Book" to delete the whole collection of chapters, not just the single chapter you are playing.</DIV><!-- / message --><!-- controls --><!-- controls -->Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:04:17 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66331#M15333clipuser2008-10-14T07:04:17ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66342#M15334
Upgrade was easy and works well. Looking forward to using FLAC.Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:54:58 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66342#M15334klunka2008-10-14T11:54:58ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66368#M15335
<P>Chapter Mode is the equivalent of the rarely used Index function in standard audio CDs.&nbsp; Thus, you aren't playing an individual chapter file (the function is to support Audible .aa format files), the display is showing the current indexed chapter.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>So, "delete book" is simply deleting the current file loaded.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Bob&nbsp; <img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://sansa.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /></P>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:34:05 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66368#M15335neutron_bob2008-10-14T14:34:05ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66471#M15336
<P>Upgrade was easy and my Clip works well.</P><P>Thank you for new firmware <img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://sansa.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Hmmm, just comes to my mind... what about a .cue file support in the next firmware?</P><P>(I hope there'll be one... <img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://sansa.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /> )</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:00:07 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66471#M15336steev2008-10-14T23:00:07ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66514#M15337
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="5851"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><P>Chapter Mode is the equivalent of the rarely used Index function in standard audio CDs.&nbsp; Thus, you aren't playing an individual chapter file (the function is to support Audible .aa format files), the display is showing the current indexed chapter.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>So, "delete book" is simply deleting the current file loaded.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Bob&nbsp; <img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://sansa.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /></P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Yeah, I understand all that. Wouldn't labelling the feature "delete chapter" when appropriate make the UI much less confusing, though?&nbsp; That is what I was alluding to...</P>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:44:51 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66514#M15337clipuser2008-10-15T07:44:51ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66587#M15338
Okay, I'm a little concerned now. I have the same problem redcow was having. I have changed the USB settings to MTP, connected, disconnected, reset to AutoDetect, and reconnected and disconnected again. Still no change; in Windows I show everything there, but the Sansa does not recognize anything. What am I doing wrong?Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:32:14 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66587#M15338jamski2008-10-15T17:32:14ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66590#M15339
Whoops, seems to be okay now. I'm not sure what stars aligned, but my tunes and book are back, and that's what's important. Yes, it does seem to start much more quickly than before.Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:38:53 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66590#M15339jamski2008-10-15T17:38:53ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66696#M15340
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="12985"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR />What is that shape/logo that comes on at the start after the word "sansa" is displayed? &nbsp;Also shows up briefly before the "goodbye".<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I just figured this out.&nbsp; It's supposed to be the (new?) Sansa logo, which is four fat "S"s in a circle.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I think they could remove a few pixels, there.&nbsp; <img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://sansa.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /></P>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:46:51 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66696#M15340PromisedPlanet2008-10-16T17:46:51ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66867#M15341
<P>&nbsp;Tapeworm's post:</P><P>''uri wrote: What about the folder support. I hoped it will come in this version. This is the way it is done in the cheapest players around and something I am used to from previous players.'</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>''Uri Note that I am not endorsing nor condemning this function. I am perfectly happy &amp; comfortable with the tag-reading that the Sansas do, but I understand that there are a lot of people that want this option. Maybe SanDisk wants to distance themselves from the players that you describe for the very reason that you state. Just a thought.''</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I must to disagree on that. Folder browsing is more basic function than cheap players privilege. All my previus players had this function and also had tag-reading. My girlfrends Philips has folder browsing and I wouldn't call it cheap mp3 at all.</P><P>I am very satisfied with my Clip (2G) in almost all aspects (great sound, cute look, custom EQ,...). Still, I would add folder support and made some changes to EQ preset settings - I would remove classic and pop EQ (I hope no one is really listening music with those settings) and add function to save one or two custom EQ settings.</P><P>I hope I won't be treated as hostile Sansa forum member.</P>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:10:02 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66867#M15341giltic2008-10-17T18:10:02ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66875#M15342
<P>My guess is that folder support is not something desired by the majority of the target Sansa market.&nbsp; People want to hear a song by a particular artist, or a particular album.&nbsp; A lot of people using MP3 players may not even know what a folder *is*, let alone organize their music into folders.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I'm not saying it's not a nice thing to have, just that it may not be worth Sandisk's time and money to put it into the firmware.</P>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:11:43 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66875#M15342PromisedPlanet2008-10-17T19:11:43ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66884#M15343
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="2570"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><P>A lot of people using MP3 players may not even know what a folder *is*, let alone organize their music into folders.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I was precisely thinking that&nbsp;a lot of people using MP3 players may not even know what a&nbsp;<EM><U>ID3 tag</U></EM>&nbsp;*is*, let alone <EM>have their music files properly tagged</EM>.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I'm a strong supporter of the tag-based browsing, by the way.&nbsp;My only problem with tag browsing is the poor handling of compilation albums. For me, this would be completely 'fixed' (so to speak) with the addition of <STRONG>'Album Artist' tag support (hear me! hear me!!...)</STRONG>&nbsp;and then I'd be 100% happy with my clip (currently I'm 99.5% happy).</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Regards</P>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:53:28 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66884#M15343porio2008-10-17T20:53:28ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66891#M15344
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="14272"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="2570"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><P>A lot of people using MP3 players may not even know what a folder *is*, let alone organize their music into folders.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I was precisely thinking that&nbsp;a lot of people using MP3 players may not even know what a&nbsp;<EM><U>ID3 tag</U></EM>&nbsp;*is*, let alone <EM>have their music files properly tagged</EM>.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Sure, but you don't have to know what an "ID3 tag" is to browse by an "Artist", or an "Album", or a "Song", or a "Genre".&nbsp; And the average user is going to have their music files properly tagged when they rip their CDs with WMP, or when they buy a song from Amazon.com or Rhapsody.</P>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 22:18:19 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66891#M15344PromisedPlanet2008-10-17T22:18:19ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66918#M15345
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="2570"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="14272"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="2570"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><P>A lot of people using MP3 players may not even know what a folder *is*, let alone organize their music into folders.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I was precisely thinking that&nbsp;a lot of people using MP3 players may not even know what a&nbsp;<EM><U>ID3 tag</U></EM>&nbsp;*is*, let alone <EM>have their music files properly tagged</EM>.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Sure, but you don't have to know what an "ID3 tag" is to browse by an "Artist", or an "Album", or a "Song", or a "Genre".&nbsp; And the average user is going to have their music files properly tagged when they rip their CDs with WMP, or when they buy a song from Amazon.com or Rhapsody.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>There's a person on the Amazon Community for audiobooks who listens to a lot of podcasts, and has tried all sorts of players, including the Zen and Fuze, and likes the Rockbox 3.0 e280 v1 the best, because he can navigate by filename.&nbsp; Here's a quote about the Fuze: "I wish the player would display the file name and provide a file structure that can be navigated."&nbsp; Just one person, but experienced, and shows the use is for podcasts, which are notorious for being inconsistently tagged.</P>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 01:03:53 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66918#M15345jj2me2008-10-18T01:03:53ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66949#M15346
I think adding folder browsing to firmware is a piece of cake and costs nothing - all cheap players has it. No need to remove ID3 tags option, just add one more browsing option. So, if all the other MP3 players (or most of them) have this option I would like to ask if there is a particular reason not to put it in Clip firmware. If someone is smart enough to turn on the Clip and play the song, to connect it to the computer and load the music, to browse by artist, album or title or whatewer, or smart enough to upgrade firmware by Sandisk instructions there is no reason not to add the folder option. If someone does not know what a folder is... I guess this is not the right reason not to have folders on Clip.Sat, 18 Oct 2008 10:26:19 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/66949#M15346giltic2008-10-18T10:26:19ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/67066#M15347
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="17692"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR />I think adding folder browsing to firmware is a piece of cake and costs nothing - all cheap players has it.<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Obviously it isn't, or SanDisk would have done it already. Or are you trying to agree with my previous thought, that&nbsp;ALL 'cheap' players have it, therefore they don't want their players to be perceived as cheap, so they elected to copy the infamous I-pod and go with tag-based browsing? Do ALL high-end and/or better quality players have folder browsing? No. Why? It's up to the manufacturer which way they want to go, along with thousands of other decisons they must make during the design and planning stages of a new product. And unfortunately, they didn't ask for your opinion when they made this decision.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>All of SanDisk's players are tag-based; none have folder browsing. There has to be a reason for that. SanDisk might feel that the 'future' is in tag-based browsing; that folder-browsing is 'old-'school'. It may be a RAM limitation in the firmware. Maybe they've done thiier market-research and have it on good authority that the majority of potential users and/or owners actually prefer sorting by Artists, Albums, Genres, etc.?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Whatever the reason; that's just the way it is. You buy a product and you enjoy it, or you learn to enjoy it, or you learn to live with it, or you get another one that makes you happier. No one is forcing you to own a Sansa. If you want folder-browsing, you yourself have said that plenty of players have it. Why don't you just get one of those? Because for all it's faults (and there are **bleep** few of them) it's still the best sounding, best-built, and best value for the money! Right? If it's not (in your opinion), then good luck on your next one. I hope you'll be happy!</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 04:34:33 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/67066#M15347Tapeworm2008-10-19T04:34:33ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/67076#M15348
<P>Tapeworm; there is no reason to be upset or angry.</P><P>Buyers opinion is important. Market is war - good products are sold and the bad are not. If someone is satisfied with one of the Sandisk players there is no reason to go for other brand. He will stay with Sandisk in the future. It's in Sandisk interest to please the buyer, that's why they want the feedback on their products (I hope so). If they sell, they make money. No need to thank Sandisk for such a great product - they sell and you buy -as simple as that. If they don't sell, they're gone. This is cruel fact.</P><P>It's also in Sandisk interest to expand the market - to get as many buyers they can. If one pearson decide not to buy Clip because of the lack of folder browsing - who cares. But if 1/3 of the buyers decide to go for Philips GoGear SA2820 (similar price) which has tags and folders? This could be the problem. That's why buyers opinion counts.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>You wrote:</P><P>''If you want folder-browsing, you yourself have said that plenty of players have it. Why don't you just get one of those?''</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I hope Sandisk woud disagree on that statement.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I am just trying to say that it would be nice to have folder browsing. It's just my humble opinion. I won't bother this forum on that matter in the future.</P>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 10:22:08 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/67076#M15348giltic2008-10-19T10:22:08ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/67262#M15349
Oh my God Thank You sansateam for making this the best MP3 player on the market! Flac finally! no more transcoding into lossy formats! My in ear monitors can finally shine! Thank youu, as promised I am going to buy a couple of these as gifts for xmas!Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:37:05 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/67262#M15349RadiatedAnt2008-10-20T19:37:05ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/67357#M15350
<P>Ok, I have updated all three of my Sansa clips to the new firmware, and promptly hosed them all. &nbsp;NO songs will show on the players at all. &nbsp;The files are in there; I can access them from Windows, and play them in Windows, through the player, but NO file shows up in the Sansa display window. &nbsp;This has happened on all three players. &nbsp;I have formatted and started over, to no avail. &nbsp;Help!!! &nbsp;I now have three completely useless Sansa Clip 2 gb players.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Sincerely,</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Gary</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:56:40 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/67357#M15350gboisseau2008-10-21T12:56:40ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/67359#M15351
How many times someone have made this question? I think is time for a fixed post, titled "No, your files are not gone, just switch USB mode, please" or "Please, make a search before you post a question" or "If you too important to read instructions, at least browse your menus to see what are for, pleeeeease". Or open a "Too FAQ"...Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:21:10 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/67359#M15351cristiano0072008-10-21T13:21:10ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/67403#M15352
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="18579"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><P>Ok, I have updated all three of my Sansa clips to the new firmware, and promptly hosed them all. &nbsp;NO songs will show on the players at all. &nbsp;The files are in there; I can access them from Windows, and play them in Windows, through the player, but NO file shows up in the Sansa display window. &nbsp;This has happened on all three players. &nbsp;I have formatted and started over, to no avail. &nbsp;Help!!! &nbsp;I now have three completely useless Sansa Clip 2 gb players.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Sincerely,</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Gary</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>What is the format of the songs?&nbsp; And do you have their ID3 tags filled in?</P>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:58:07 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/67403#M15352Miikerman2008-10-21T18:58:07ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/67664#M15353
<P>I use Sansa Clip 2GB EU four months, and found this bugs:</P><P>1. No support fo russian letters in M3U playlists. Playlist with russian song names shows as &lt;Empty&gt;.</P><P>2. Some playlists sometimes shows as &lt;Empty&gt;, after format this playlists shows normally.</P><P>3. Sometimes playlist stops at any song, and "&lt;&lt;" &amp; "&gt;&gt;" buttons don't work.</P><P>4. Plastic clip cracks on 2 month of using my Sansa.<img id="smileysad" class="emoticon emoticon-smileysad" src="https://sansa.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif" alt="Smiley Sad" title="Smiley Sad" /></P><DIV class="message-edit-history"><SPAN class="edit-author">Message Edited by De_Cadanz on </SPAN><SPAN class="local-date">10-23-2008</SPAN><SPAN class="local-time"> 03:20 PM</SPAN></DIV>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:20:12 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/67664#M15353De_Cadanz2008-10-23T22:20:12ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/68133#M15354
<P>When I attempt update using the sansa updater, it downloads the update just fine and begins</P><P>the firmware update, then stalls at 10%.&nbsp; Any help is appreciated.&nbsp;<BR />I have tried the manual download and update</P><P>but the clip will not accept any drops to it other than non root folders.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Thanks</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:40:22 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/68133#M15354tweb2008-10-27T15:40:22ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/68136#M15355
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="17525"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><P>When I attempt update using the sansa updater, it downloads the update just fine and begins</P><P>the firmware update, then stalls at 10%.&nbsp; Any help is appreciated.&nbsp;<BR />I have tried the manual download and update</P><P>but the clip will not accept any drops to it other than non root folders.</P><HR /><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The problem you described with the Sansa Updater sounds familiar.&nbsp; Try it again after a reboot.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Regarding not being able to load the firmware directly onto the Clip, you must have an old version of the firmware that didn't enable UMS mode?&nbsp; Otherwise the Clip would show up under "My Computer" as a "removable disk".</P></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:48:56 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/68136#M15355PromisedPlanet2008-10-27T15:48:56ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/68138#M15356
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="2570"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="17525"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><P>When I attempt update using the sansa updater, it downloads the update just fine and begins</P><P>the firmware update, then stalls at 10%.&nbsp; Any help is appreciated.&nbsp;<BR />I have tried the manual download and update</P><P>but the clip will not accept any drops to it other than non root folders.</P><HR /><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The problem you described with the Sansa Updater sounds familiar.&nbsp; Try it again after a reboot.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Regarding not being able to load the firmware directly onto the Clip, you must have an old version of the firmware that didn't enable UMS mode?&nbsp; Otherwise the Clip would show up under "My Computer" as a "removable disk".</P></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Right, is does not show up as a removal disk, but just as the player itself.&nbsp;<BR />This was a warranty device I just received a few weeks ago.</P><P>When you say reboot, meaning PC or clip?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Thanks</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:53:22 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/68138#M15356tweb2008-10-27T15:53:22ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/68140#M15357
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="17525"></LI-USER> wrote:<P>When you say reboot, meaning PC or clip?</P><HR /><P>PC.&nbsp; I think.&nbsp; It's been a while since I had the same problem, but basically I repeated the process, and it worked.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>If you haven't tried forcing the Clip into MSC (UMS) mode, though, this might be easier ... then you can copy the firmware file into the root folder manually.&nbsp; To force the Clip into MSC mode, move its power/hold switch to the hold position, then hold down the center button while plugging the Clip into your USB port.</P></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:00:23 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/68140#M15357PromisedPlanet2008-10-27T16:00:23ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/68143#M15358
Thanks, that alone allowed me to use the Sansa updater to update the firmware.Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:07:51 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/68143#M15358tweb2008-10-27T16:07:51ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/69361#M15359
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR /><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN class="Apple-style-span">Rdow wrote:</SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN class="Apple-style-span"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span">Found one "Bug Fix" I hate:</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-style-span"><BR /></SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-style-span"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; All Audiobooks should show 1/1 if Chapter Mode is OFF&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-style-span"><BR /></SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-style-span"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-style-span"><BR /></SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-style-span"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span">What is the logic here? &nbsp;I liked it showing me I was on file 17 of the 27 that make up the book, gave me a good sense of where I was in the book made up of multiple files. &nbsp;Now to get that back I have to switch to chapter mode where an accidental hit of the FF/RW buttons will skip me to another file?</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-style-span"><BR /></SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-style-span"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span">&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-style-span"><BR /></SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-style-span"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span">Please change this feature back!&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-style-span">&nbsp;</SPAN><BR /></BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN class="Apple-style-span">sansafix wrote:<BR /></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE><P><SPAN class="Apple-style-span">Rdow,</SPAN></P><P><SPAN class="Apple-style-span">&nbsp;</SPAN></P><P><SPAN class="Apple-style-span">No worries if you accidentally skip to another file,&nbsp; you can skip back and your place will be remembered.</SPAN></P><P><SPAN class="Apple-style-span">&nbsp;</SPAN></P><P><SPAN class="Apple-style-span">Sorry for that. </SPAN></P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE>&nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE>Well, I've given this a try and there is a problem. &nbsp;If you accidently hit the back button you are taken to the start of the current track so there is no remaining bookmark to get you back to where you were.</BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE>I'd gladly stay out of "Chapter mode" if the screen would just still show me the file number (e.g. 3/7) as it did with the previous firmware. &nbsp;Perhaps the next version could give that feature back, and still differentiate the two modes by only putting the word "Chapter" on the top line when in chapter mode.</BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE>&nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:25:47 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/69361#M15359rdow2008-11-06T04:25:47ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/69724#M15361
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="12985"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE>I'd gladly stay out of "Chapter mode" if the screen would just still show me the file number (e.g. 3/7) as it did with the previous firmware. &nbsp;Perhaps the next version could give that feature back, and still differentiate the two modes by only putting the word "Chapter" on the top line when in chapter mode.&nbsp;<BR /></BLOCKQUOTE><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>For what little it's worth, I'm with you on that. I now have to count myself, track by track, to know where I am, if I want to listen to music for a while instead of to an audiobook, and come back to where I left without having to go through a dozen files, searching for the right one.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Of course, a function that would automatically bookmark where you left within a folder, instead of just within a file, would be even more helpful.</P>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 13:09:59 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/69724#M15361Sinocelt2008-11-09T13:09:59ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/71175#M15362
<P>Can anyone that has upgraded tell me which FLAC compression levels are supported? Specifically, I use 5 for all of my albums. I'm comparing a few models for my work out unit and don't want to have to convert every album I want for exercising.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Edit: Also, does it support embedded cuesheets or just separate files?</P><DIV class="message-edit-history"><SPAN class="edit-author">Message Edited by mramige on </SPAN><SPAN class="local-date">11-18-2008</SPAN><SPAN class="local-time"> 08:10 PM</SPAN></DIV>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:10:26 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/71175#M15362mramige2008-11-19T01:10:26ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/71192#M15363
A function to bookmark where you left within a folder would be very nice. The latest firmware doesn't even remember your last track after a sync.Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:14:59 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/71192#M15363gregwint2008-11-19T02:14:59ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/71301#M15364
<P>Rdow,</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Next revision will put it back the way it was. &nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>All FLAC compression levels are supported.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>We have added the bookmark current segment to our list.&nbsp; It might not make the next release. </P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>SansaFix </P><DIV class="message-edit-history"><SPAN class="edit-author">Message Edited by sansafix on </SPAN><SPAN class="local-date"> 11-19-2008</SPAN><SPAN class="local-time"> 10:20 AM</SPAN></DIV>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:20:13 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/71301#M15364sansafix2008-11-19T18:20:13ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/71679#M15365
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><P>does it support embedded cuesheets or just separate files?</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>no. i tried using cue sheets with a single flac file and nothing. I just FFW about a 1h 20m file</P>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:38:26 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/71679#M15365feromon2008-11-22T10:38:26ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/71714#M15366
<P>are there any plans to change the voice encoding to something much smaller even MP3 would be better. WAV is so bulky.</P>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:44:11 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/71714#M15366corey_bunker2008-11-22T17:44:11ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/71955#M15367
Sansafix, thanks for being so responsive to your customer's feedback and for continuing with the firmware revisions!&nbsp;<img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://sansa.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" />Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:18:30 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/71955#M15367rdow2008-11-24T03:18:30ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/72066#M15368
Xiph.org has made a request that .ogg files containing audio (Vorbis) be encoded with the file extension .oga and video (Theora) be encoded with the file extension .ogv (their wiki http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/MIME_Types_and_File_Extensions) and so on for their other formats.&nbsp; I believe that Sansa should update the firmware to let the Clip recognize and play .oga files just like .ogg since it will be better for users and the new Linux distros are complying with Xiph.org and applying .oga extension to ripped music.&nbsp; I have to say that I like that SanDisk produced a player that considered Gnu/Linux users.&nbsp; Maybe in the future there will be an autoupdater for Gnu/Linux.&nbsp; Someone requested that SanDisk used a different format to produce less bulky files for voice ercoding.&nbsp; SanDisk should look into the Speex codec because it being open source will not carry the licensing costs.&nbsp; Sansa will only have to include the codecs with their disks for the Windows folks.&nbsp;<DIV class="message-edit-history"><SPAN class="edit-author">Message Edited by notbitmonk on </SPAN><SPAN class="local-date">11-24-2008</SPAN><SPAN class="local-time"> 06:55 PM</SPAN></DIV>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:55:53 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/72066#M15368notbitmonk2008-11-24T22:55:53ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/75925#M15369
<P>Hi, everyone!&nbsp; I am an MP3 virgin.&nbsp; I did the research and just got my 4 GB clip from Amazon ($39.95), but it was really free because of my cashback credit card.&nbsp; The funny thing is, I ordered a silver which was cheaper but they sent me black...yay!&nbsp; Anyway, I am learning to use Audacity and Windows Media player, and trying to follow the threads on this board.&nbsp; I already had to switch to MSC mode...thanks for the lessons.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>My beginner's question is this.&nbsp; I need to update the firmware...currently I have 01.01.18A.&nbsp; I prefer to do it manually.&nbsp; I have the file on my desktop already unzipped and ready to go.&nbsp; But, how do I tell which is the root directory?&nbsp; I don't see anything that looks like a tree, and I don't see where to drag the file to.&nbsp; Thanks,&nbsp;O Wise Ones.</P>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:07:07 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/75925#M15369Witchdoctor582008-12-12T19:07:07ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/75936#M15370
If you double click the drive letter on the Clip the first screen is the root.&nbsp; Place the file there. Do not place the file in any of the folders like MUSIC,&nbsp; etc.<DIV class="message-edit-history"><SPAN class="edit-author">Message Edited by sansafix on </SPAN><SPAN class="local-date"> 12-12-2008</SPAN><SPAN class="local-time"> 11:28 AM</SPAN></DIV>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:28:10 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/75936#M15370sansafix2008-12-12T19:28:10ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/76017#M15371
I can't believe it was that easy!&nbsp;&nbsp; You and the rest of the folks on this board are fantastic...thanks for your clear and fast help!Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:15:04 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/76017#M15371Witchdoctor582008-12-12T23:15:04ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/76326#M15372
I'm like WD58.&nbsp; I'm new to this, but thanks for the info on how to update without using updater.&nbsp; Tried updater in both modes with no luck.&nbsp; Hopefully it'll work now with the new version.&nbsp; Also I hope my noise problem with voice recordings does go away.&nbsp; Very annoying, thought equalizer was problem.&nbsp; Thanks again for your knowledge O Wise One!Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:34:38 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/76326#M15372Newbie082008-12-14T13:34:38ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/77413#M15373
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="20664"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR />Also I hope my noise problem with voice recordings does go away.&nbsp; Very annoying, thought equalizer was problem<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I also had hopes of getting the voice recording noise problem resolved, but after updating to 1x.30 firmware the noise is still there. I can clean it up fairly easily using Goldwave, but the point is that I shouldn't have to. I had opened another thread when my calls for help on voice recording noise went unheeded, but so far no one (from Sansa) has taken notice.</P><P>BTW I don't use the equalizer at all.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>As for recording, I agree that MP3 is much better than WAV due to size. I also wouldn't mindit recording in WMA format as my old Lexar LDP-600 (512 MB) does. If that old player could do it, I don't see why this newer Clip couldn't. The Lexar recorded in true stereo as well and the files are smaller than MP3 at the same bitrate.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>If my memory serves me well, it was Sandisk that bought out Lexar. That would mean they would own the technology. Could use a little of that ingenuity that was in the LDP-600. The user interface was bad, but the device not only played the various formats (WAV, MP3, and WMA), and could play or record FM, it also contained an FM transmitter - no attachments required!</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>If it weren't for the lousy user interface and the lack of memory (512 MB internal with SD card capability - which had its own set of problems), I would still be using that. I was waiting for the much heralded LDP-800 - same features but with larger memory capacity, but it never saw the light of day (Lexar having been sold).</P>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:25:45 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/77413#M15373CyberRon2008-12-18T18:25:45ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/79163#M15374
<P>Any chance of a fix to the podcast support, so that they play in the right order, rather than reversed?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>It is really annoying to listen to new episodes before I have listened to the older ones (especially as the oldest ones will probably never be reached!).</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I understand this order is to make it easier to find new episodes, but I only listen to podcasts once and delete old ones next time I update from my computer. I also never get to the end of the list, as I balance the number of podcasts I download against the time I have to listen to them, so I always have a few unlistened to ones left, when I next update.</P>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:19:31 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/79163#M15374davosmith2008-12-26T10:19:31ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/79176#M15375
According to <STRONG>sansafix</STRONG> the podcast order will be fixed in the next firmware.Fri, 26 Dec 2008 14:03:59 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/79176#M15375eliasf2008-12-26T14:03:59ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/79286#M15376
I'd like to request that a way to change the format that the microphone records sound in. WAV is far too large and unwieldy.Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:03:09 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/79286#M15376ExOmni2008-12-26T19:03:09ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/79306#M15377
I need to update the firmware. I currently have 01.01.18A. I tried the update through the updater but received error 1003, so I'm attempting to update the firmware manually.&nbsp;&nbsp;I have the .30 file on my desktop already unzipped and I've attempted to drag and drop to the root directory, but I'm getting the black no sign, and the file is not moving.&nbsp;My PC is using XP Home, and according to the instructions there is no need to be in a particular mode to update. I have a strange file called DevIcon.FIL along with the&nbsp;usual folders for Albums, Music, etc.&nbsp;Please help.Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:58:25 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/79306#M15377cynfool2008-12-26T19:58:25ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/79313#M15378
I got it to work. I had to be in MSC mode. Is there something about the auto detect mode that I don't understand? I thought this setting would work for both MTP and MSC updating. Thanks.Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:16:31 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/79313#M15378cynfool2008-12-26T20:16:31ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/79318#M15379
cynfool, the DevIcon.FIL file means that your Clip is in MTP mode; you must switch to MSC to load the firmware manually. Use "Settings &gt; USB Mode &gt; MSC".Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:21:54 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/79318#M15379eliasf2008-12-26T20:21:54ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/79861#M15380
<P>I'm having the same problem as cynfool. When I run the Auto-updater, I'm getting an error 1003. Anyone know what's up?</P>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:10:36 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/79861#M15380z4n5h1n2008-12-27T21:10:36ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/83703#M15381
It really just is so much easier to manually update, rather than use the autoupdater (which sits on your computer comsuming resources).&nbsp; Just unzip and drag 'n drop ...Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:55:24 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/83703#M15381Miikerman2009-01-08T19:55:24ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/83736#M15382
<P>you might want to add this step for new clip users who have bought a ver1 firmware device that does not have usb mode in the system folder, took me a while to find, but would of been heaps easier if it was in the instructions found in the sticky</P><HR /><P><STRONG>posted by haldox:</STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>OK, finally found an answer!! Thank you people!! This has been so aggravating.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I already have all the requirements for the Clip, since my daughter has had it for almost a year now. Had no problems in the past and honestly cant tell you how this thing got into MTP mode.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Went through all the troubleshooting , trying to update(which update kept telling it couldnt update because it was in MTP mode???hmmm), tried putting into MSC mode(couldnt do that because my computer didnt recognize it at all and since my computer couldnt recognize it, then I couldnt install the firmware update!!) also this clip bought in 2007 didnt have any thing to switch from MTP mode back to MSC mode in the settings.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG>SO I did as what some of you instructed us to do: turned off clip, put in hold and held down the center button while PLUGGING it in to my USB. Computer recognized it again!!!</STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>AFter that I was able to install the update , but after that I had unplugged the clip from the computer and plugged it back in, computer didnt recognize it ..AGAIN!!!</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>So then I went into the settings on the CLIP and found USB connections(which I didnt have before the firmware update) and it had went back to auto detect&nbsp;mode(dont know why it wont auto detect , but at least its working),&nbsp; now I could switch it back to MSC mode!!! And its staying there.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>My computer recognizes it just fine now!!&nbsp; It stays in MSC mode.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Dont know if that will help anybody , but I am thankful and wanted to share my happiness. Thank you</P><HR /><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:36:21 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/83736#M15382onetimeuser2009-01-08T21:36:21ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/84737#M15383
Hey guys, i have 1 idea - <SPAN>what if sansadevs will <U><STRONG><SPAN>learn the Clip to record sound in ogg format</SPAN></STRONG></U>.</SPAN><P>As all we knew, it already has ogg codec</P><P>It would be the next win in a war with iPoo (i mean iPod)</P><DIV class="message-edit-history"><SPAN class="edit-author">Message Edited by feromon on </SPAN><SPAN class="local-date">01-12-2009</SPAN><SPAN class="local-time"> 03:29 PM</SPAN></DIV><DIV class="message-edit-history"><SPAN class="edit-author">Message Edited by feromon on </SPAN><SPAN class="local-date">01-12-2009</SPAN><SPAN class="local-time"> 03:30 PM</SPAN></DIV>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:30:07 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/84737#M15383feromon2009-01-12T13:30:07ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/84822#M15384
OGG encoding is much more complex and power hungry than OGG decoding.&nbsp; Nice Idea though.Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:58:45 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/84822#M15384sansafix2009-01-12T19:58:45ZRe: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0https://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/85571#M15385
When will the next firmware be released? What changes can we expect?Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:07:53 GMThttps://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-For-Hardware-Revision-1-0/m-p/85571#M15385Sasafrass4522009-01-15T23:07:53Z