Wrong big time, there are different definitions of the word male. Some don't have anything to do sexual functions and only one of it's definitions does. So according to you guys a male plant has to have a penis? lol, AH No, of course not.

Now, correct me if I am wrong but don't Muslims believe in the Torah?... Well the Torah says God is a male.

Lol well the words "male" and "female" are used for plants to differentiate between two types. Since God is one, by definition there are no "two types/genders" that need to exist.

What then do you consider to be the definition of male that the Bible uses?

noun1. a person bearing an X and Y chromosome pair in the cell nuclei and normally having a penis, scrotum, and testicles, and developing hair on the face at adolescence; a boy or man.2. an organism of the sex or sexual phase that normally produces a sperm cell or male gamete.3. Botany . a staminate plant.

adjective4. of, pertaining to, or being a male animal or plant.5. pertaining to or characteristic of a male person; masculine: a male voice.6. composed of males: a male choir.7. Botany .a. designating or pertaining to a plant or its reproductive structure producing or containing microspores.b. (of seed plants) staminate.8. Machinery . made to fit into a corresponding open or recessed part: a male plug. Compare female ( def. 8 ) .

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be·got·ten or be·got; be·get·ting.1.(especially of a male parent) to procreate or generate (offspring).2.to cause; produce as an effect: a belief that power begets power.

Male plants spread their 'sperm' onto female plants. So whether its a penis or not. You are uttering that God is a human/man and male. Guess what all human male men have?

Mary is a human female woman with a vagina.

Muslims believe in the revelations that were given to Moses, but we know that the torah in it's entirity and the OT in it's entirety is not what was revealed to moses but includes other writings.

We believe in the torah (what was revealed to moses), the zabur (what was david's), jesus's gospel (injeel) and quran (as revealed through muhammad).

The bible consists of OT and NT... books... the OT apocrypha includes more books that are not included in the bible.. the NT apocrypha includes more books that are not included in the bible.

Don`t be so naive bro, I am not uttering anything like you say. You are putting words in my mouth. I said God is male, the Hebrew term for male in the old testament is not a man with a penis, it is someone with masculine features and the O T states angels are male and they don`t have sexual organs.

But all this doesn`t matter cause guess what the 5 books of Moses that Muslims believe in that are in the Torah says God is a male. Bro I have read everything, every single manuscript known to man, The Bible, The Koran, The Book of Enoch, Jasher, The book of Jubilees and the Apocrypha books, every thing you can think of and they all say God`s a male, so maybe you have not read the Koran bro but here is a reminder.

He says, "There is nothing whatsoever like unto Him." (42:11) And Surat al-Ikhlas, one of the first suras memorized by Muslim children everywhere, reads, " Say, “The truth is that Allah is One. Allah is Besought of all, needing none. He begot not, nor was He begotten. And like Him has never been any one."" (Quran, 112:1—4)

Why? Because there is nothing comparable to God in the creation. Everything within the creation is created by God while God is the creator and unique.

Jews like Muslims, and 'unitarian christians' hold the same view that nothing in creation resembles God and that we should not worship the creation but the Creator.

The only time this again became a 'debate' was amongst feminists who like yourself lacking understanding started arguing about God's 'male gender', and there are feminist books that change the bible to say "She". Pretty retarded.

Do please check out the verses in the bible where God is called a mother. Yet still Jews never literally attributed gender to God. So you are the only ones bringing about this, amongst polytheists.

Unitarian christians are a step ahead of you, abandon these fabricated later beliefs and return to the original message of Jesus.

Why? Because there is nothing comparable to God in the creation. Everything within the creation is created by God while God is the creator and unique.

Jews like Muslims, and 'unitarian christians' hold the same view that nothing in creation resembles God and that we should not worship the creation but the Creator.

The only time this again became a 'debate' was amongst feminists who like yourself lacking understanding started arguing about God's 'male gender', and there are feminist books that change the bible to say "She". Pretty retarded.

Do please check out the verses in the bible where God is called a mother. Yet still Jews never literally attributed gender to God. So you are the only ones bringing about this, amongst polytheists.

Unitarian christians are a step ahead of you, abandon these fabricated later beliefs and return to the original message of Jesus.

I don`t remember such verse, I could be wrong but please show me the verse.

Also I believe what you are saying about God being the creator, this does not interfere with him being a male. See angels are not made of flesh, they can travel through space at the speed of light and they can kill an army of man by themselves, yet while they are here on earth they eat drink and sleep, these are thing we can not understand. The truth of the matter is they are not humans but can be as humans in human form if they want. So God has many forms not just 1 form how you guys limit him to.

Analogically according to the bible God compares himself to action of females, males and children, comparing himself in that sense. It's in the gender wiki.

None the less none of these mean God is either of these things. God created his creatures/creation and gave them gender.

For instance even in this verse if we are to take it as an example:

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

We don't believe this verse obviously and definetely not literally as christians do, as that would contradict the verses which indicate God not resembling his creation. Jews who Jesus was from and thought to, did not believe God was literally male either. All Jews reject this notion of God having literally gender.

Thus trinitarians are the only ones misinterpreting this whole issue because they are following Paul's teachings about God literally being a man, Jesus being God.

Jesus' followers knew very well that Jesus was a rabi and a prophet. Not God. Only Paul later brought this about.

Look it up in dictionaries and the definition revolves around sexual function and organs, so Ahmed's question is fair.

We believe it's actually restricting to God to assign Him a gender, since having a gender in itself is a trait of mammals, beings He created who are below Him. If you truly elevate God to the highest, don't you believe He is above having gender characteristics?

But you believe that he's not above being able to split himself in three? What else do you believe he's not above?

But you believe that he's not above being able to split himself in three? What else do you believe he's not above?

See that's funny. This is the kind of problem a christian would have we muslims don't have.

What I mean is, what you said is basically 'cant God do everything and anything'.

It's a typical question that confuses Christians.

For example: Can God create a rock He himself cannot lift.

To me this is easy to answer, to a christian it is not as they become stunned because they always use the God can do anything and therefore he became a human/etc...

However this question is invalid to begin with just as your question is invalid to begin with.

God is one and absolute. If he 'becomes' something else he seizes to be God. Therefore its an invalid question.

God would not 'create something he himself cant lift' that makes no sense, because weight is a limited function created by God in this universe. A law that we must obide by. Like many other limitations that remind us that we are dependant of God. Death for instance is by design decreed. All creatures have a beginning and an end, while God is eternal and as he brings us to life will bring us back again to life. This world is merely transitory for us.

We don't believe God is physically in this world or in this universe. We believe God to be above his creation, what that exactly means we do not know, but we certainly don't believe in pantheism but some christians like trinitarians do, they even believe that God 'dwells' in them.. I never accepted believing in this even as a christian even though we were thought this in christianity.

God is one and absolute. If he 'becomes' something else he seizes to be God. Therefore its an invalid question.

Why? cause you said so, lol. God can be anything he wants to be and he still doesn`t stop being God, he can be a human if he wants and walk here on earth if he wants. You`re logic is outrageous, according to you, no matter what God can`t come down to earth as a human, it`s impossible, there is no way he can do that, WOW, you got some issues bro, just cause you say he can`t does not mean he can`t.

You believe in the book of Exodus right? OK, quote from the Exodus...`

God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill? Numbers 23:19

You just prove that the bible is not God's word, not unchanged. I do not believe in the bible as it is today. I believe theoretically in what God revealed to Moses. We do not have that today. As a christian I believed in the bible, but I could see that it had men's words in them.

Will they not, then, try to understand this Qur’an? Had it issued from any but God, they would surely have found in it many an inner contradiction! 4:82

Because by definition God is eternal, unique, absolute.

God is absolute and unchanging. There are several verses in the bible regarding that too:

Malachi 3:6: "I the LORD do not change. So you, O descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed."

James 1:17: "Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows."

Just think about it. He is the one who posesses all knowledge, is eternal, absolute, nothing compares to him.

It's through philosophical and theological monotheistic point of view an absolute. Unless you go away from monotheism and start believing in pantheism and polytheism... as from some things the trinitarian christians on here have professed.

God is one and absolute. If he 'becomes' something else he seizes to be God. Therefore its an invalid question.

Why? cause you said so, lol. God can be anything he wants to be and he still doesn`t stop being God, he can be a human if he wants and walk here on earth if he wants. You`re logic is outrageous, according to you, no matter what God can`t come down to earth as a human, it`s impossible, there is no way he can do that, WOW, you got some issues bro, just cause you say he can`t does not mean he can`t.

You believe in the book of Exodus right? OK, quote from the Exodus...`

`God is a man of war``

Yes, God can do anything, but we believe God does not do inappropriate/humanly/imperfect things (like bare a child, live in a womb, talk to himself, etc.), He does Godly things instead

"I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is no one like Me" Isaiah 46:9

There is no one like God. There's alot of humans that are a lot like humans

"I am Yahweh, and there is none else." Isaiah 45:18

"I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is no one like Me" Isaiah 46:9

The above reminds me of someone who asked about the 'three in heaven' even though that's a well known fabricated verse and that person misunderstood the 'we' used in semetic languages, but it proves there is God... period.

You make no sense and you just lied against God. God said he wouldn't but could? What?

Here lets take another look at what the bible also says:

"I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' Psalm 82:6

Another proof that the bible cannot be fully trusted as it is not the word of God. That's why people differ. People who recognize the message of all the prophets which was the oneness of God.. and those that blaspheme against God contradicting the monotheistic belief with pantheism and polytheism.

This verse just keeps reverberating in my head every time I hear you speak and bring something new:

There is among them a section who distort the Book with their tongues: (as they read) you would think it is a part of the Book, but it is no part of the Book; and they say, "That is from Allah," but it is not from Allah: it is they who tell a lie against Allah, and (well) they know it! Quran 3.78 ( Surat Al-Imran , verse 78)

I made a general comment that God can do anything, but to take that general comment and question whether God can make himself imperfect (like a human) comes back to the question "Can God create a rock that's too heavy for him to lift?"

The "God can do anything" argument will say "yes" to that question, but then the "God can do anything" argument can not explain why he can't lift it.

In other words using the "God can do anything" argument does not stand when applying it towards imperfections, such as "Can God become human?"

You make no sense and you just lied against God. God said he wouldn't but could? What?

Here lets take another look at what the bible also says:

"I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' Psalm 82:6

Another proof that the bible cannot be fully trusted as it is not the word of God. That's why people differ. People who recognize the message of all the prophets which was the oneness of God.. and those that blaspheme against God contradicting the monotheistic belief with pantheism and polytheism.

This verse just keeps reverberating in my head every time I hear you speak and bring something new:

There is among them a section who distort the Book with their tongues: (as they read) you would think it is a part of the Book, but it is no part of the Book; and they say, "That is from Allah," but it is not from Allah: it is they who tell a lie against Allah, and (well) they know it! Quran 3.78 ( Surat Al-Imran , verse 78)

What are you talking about bro? You said.... Bigbobs doesn't say that God can become a human

and I said that bigbobs did say that God could become human, bigbob said God can do anything, then I said, but bigbobs said God wouldn`t, wooooooooooooosh

I made a general comment that God can do anything, but to take that general comment and question whether God can make himself imperfect (like a human) comes back to the question "Can God create a rock that's too heavy for him to lift?"

The "God can do anything" argument will say "yes" to that question, but then the "God can do anything" argument can not explain why he can't lift it.

In other words using the "God can do anything" argument does not stand when applying it towards imperfections, such as "Can God become human?"