Bob Costas again, now on the Daily Show

Watching Bob back-pedaling and making the case that "gun culture" and glorification of guns in hip-hop music and movies is the real problem. He says change the culture instead of the laws and the violence will reduce, aaaaand, uhhh, oh! Btw he only had 90 seconds to explain during halftime. So basically reduce the allure and the suggestion that guns can solve disputes and poof, something better happens, somewhere... That is all.

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hso

January 29, 2013, 12:33 AM

The more visibly folks like that change their story in a way we approve the better.

gp911

January 29, 2013, 12:40 AM

I agree. He offered no real solutions and came across as another person talking theory with absolutely nothing of substance to offer to the discussion.

InkEd

January 29, 2013, 12:41 AM

I don't like Jon Stewart anymore he bacame too liberal for my taste.

bigfinger76

January 29, 2013, 12:58 AM

Apparently I'm insane for liking "assault rifles" and hi-caps.

greenmtnguy

January 29, 2013, 01:10 AM

Yeah, his "no sane person.." comment was getting him into hot water again - I think he knew it, and tried to pedal back out of it when Stewart asked him what his definition of "sanity" was...

Pf course Jon Stewart is a liberal - he loves Obama, his is an actor & comedian who happens ot live near NYC instead of LA, but they're basically becoming the same thing.
I watch him purely for entertainment value and ignore any of his attempts to be serious.. Plus, we have Stephen Colbert to help counter-balance things-LOL!

psyopspec

January 29, 2013, 10:58 AM

I frequently quote Jon Stewart when discussing or debating guns. It's interesting to watch an anti-gun person's reaction when I say "I agree with Jon Stewart when, after the AZ shooting, he said 'Guns are not the problem. Crazy is the problem.'"

I got to meet him briefly in Afghanistan. I thanked him for coming out, then jokingly told him to go home and make fun of the debt ceiling. He was humble and gracious. And short, especially standing next to The Mailman.

Batty67

January 29, 2013, 02:03 PM

Costas is a fine sports newscaster, and he should stick to that...

gossamer

January 29, 2013, 05:48 PM

Costas seems to be preoccupied with the context of guns among young elite athletes (read "wealthy black men in sports") and then generalizing to the entire population.

Costas also seems to put this "spin on the ball" (as it were) where, for him, the black athlete gravitates to guns because of less-than-sincere societal forces like entertainment, video games, etc.. Sort of ignoring the idea that someone who lives their life very much in the public eye, where their wealth is the subject of repeated publication and scrutiny, and their weekly job performance is not only the domain of personal pride for others but very lucrative business enterprises, that person may have a pretty good cause for owning a weapon(s) for self defense.

I live in the city where Jovan Belcher killed his girlfriend and himself. It was very very sad. But for me it was less about guns than about the hopelessness this man who seemingly has everything must have felt. In the aftermath, I didn't see Costas ranting about the possible implications of repeated head injuries. The lavish lifestyle and sense of entitlement that comes along with professional sports. And the very poor job these employers do of equipping their employees with the ability to deal with the problems that come along with the job.

On the other hand, Jonny Stewbeef is a good guy.

goon

January 29, 2013, 07:08 PM

He said that football players can't be trusted with guns because they have a violent occupation. What would he say of the soldiers and law enforcement officers who keep us safe? Should they also be denied the RKBA?

And he said that African Americans are more prone to gun violence because of hip-hop culture. That's right - he said that black people can't be trusted with guns. That's the most racist thing I've ever heard come out of someone's mouth on TV.

Manco

January 29, 2013, 08:03 PM

That's right - he said that black people can't be trusted with guns. That's the most racist thing I've ever heard come out of someone's mouth on TV.

Wow, forget the dead children ploy, that's old-school gun control--goes right back to its roots. :eek:

gossamer

January 29, 2013, 08:17 PM

That's the most racist thing I've ever heard come out of someone's mouth on TV.

Ever watch CSPAN?

Airbrush Artist

January 29, 2013, 08:21 PM

This explains the mindset of Most Hollywood Male Actors.and Guys Like Costas
.."A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."
- Sigmund Freud

tyeo098

January 29, 2013, 08:34 PM

This explains the mindset of Most Hollywood Male Actors.and Guys Like Costas
.."A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."
- Sigmund Freud
That quote is incorrect and you should stop using it.

Plus, we have Stephen Colbert to help counter-balance things-LOL!
Certaintly no ally, but (for now) at least willing to point out the BS from both sides. Anyone familiar with the Harvey Birdman show he used to do voice-over on (and writing, as well, judging by the style of humor in that show) is acutely aware he can play up the hysteria of both sides of an issue for laughs.

One episode (Guitar Control) features a Heston-esque Quick Draw McGraw being prosecuted for illegally concealling a Spanish guitar :D, and is actually quite fair in its satirical representation of both sides of the gun-control issue.

Harvey Birdman: "Where will these restrictions end? A background check when you want to take up banjo? A five day waiting period to buy a Telecaster? An all-out ban on the Flying V or, dare I say, whammy bar?"

Myron Reducto: "Yes, our Founding Fathers were certainly comfortable with the idea of the lute or the fiddle, but how could they have foreseen the fretless bass? No!
...And while the good people of the National Guitar Association might like you to think otherwise, do you really think we'd all be safer if everyone were walking around with a Sunburst Rickenbacker in their pockets?"

TCB
That quote is incorrect and you should stop using it.
The vast majority of signuature quotes are bogus or taken out of a nuanced context--which is precisely why I don't cite Jefferson's actual text in mine, and instead offer my own interpretation ;)

Sauer Grapes

January 29, 2013, 08:58 PM

Costas is a fine sports newscaster, and he should stick to that...
My thoughts exactly!

Airbrush Artist

January 29, 2013, 09:31 PM

Almost every Post I make is made fun of or Critiqued and Judged critically ,I'm New here and Its really discouraging ,I have dyslexia which limits my Thought process at times when I write sentences but I really Value the knowlegde base of most people Here, but it is almost not worth The rudeness and judgemental Attitudes when you have to interact ..Case in Point above in TYEO's response..

ezypikns

January 29, 2013, 10:15 PM

Welcome, Airbrush Artist. There really are some fine people who frequent this site.

Having said this, I don't believe the Gentleman you referred to was criticizing You personally.

He merely pointed out that the Quote you cited was factually incorrect. I've done the same thing myself, with no offense intended.

There are some dandy genuine quotes floating around the internet, but there are many more which are not attributed correctly or are just wrong.

If we're going to use them, we have a responsiblity to make sure they're correct.

paintballdude902

January 30, 2013, 02:05 AM

i need to watch more sports, every time i see a thread about bob costa, i automatically think of chris costa and get really confused by the first post......

bob costa is an idiot and needs to stay away from guns and politics

Airbrush Artist

January 30, 2013, 12:19 PM

I stand corrected ..Its just that I have been through Bully training the last 2 weeks at School, Mandatory for all Ohio school Bus drivers, so My Mind is sensitive at This Time...Its kinda been Indoctrinated by a Sissy trainer...I'll get better as the weeks go By and be back to bad mouthing Folks..lol...One thing to remember and I'll share from Anti-Bully Training is That according to the Girly Man Trainer I quote "The "Golden Rule" is No Longer effective because there are so many Diverse Groups in Our Society these days" unquote..reely he said That..with that I shall have My Lunch Good day...

psyopspec

January 30, 2013, 12:40 PM

That's all right man. We're all human. When someone points out a factual error in a manner that isn't offensive, it's an opportunity to show graciousness and to learn.

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