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Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

Originally Posted by Reg

Ron Paul is not a Republican. He's a Libertarian.

One describes a party, the other describes an ideology. The two are not mutually exclusive, so this statement is idiotic. Do you realize there are conservatives among democrats and liberals among conservatives? (although they seem like endangered species?)

Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

Originally Posted by StillBallin75

One describes a party, the other describes an ideology. The two are not mutually exclusive, so this statement is idiotic. Do you realize there are conservatives among democrats and liberals among conservatives? (although they seem like endangered species?)

Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

you waste your time explaining these things to the brain dead electorate.

I don't think they're brain dead, just stuck to the matrix.

Anyway, to answer your red text Gill, about the fence. The important part was the next sentence.

"In economic turmoil, the people want to leave with their capital and there’s capital controls and there’s people controls. Every time you think about the fence, think about the fences being used against us, keeping us in.”

It is not absurd as you may think. Half the country is screaming and demanding that the government "tax the rich". We're near a major economic crisis and if anything you'll definitely feel the pinch next year. If nothing is done, it is all but likely our dollar will eventually collapse. Except people to bail and likely our govt to close the boarders. Things that we think that may be use to protect us, can be used against us..cough patriot act, fema, tsa. Just ask a german friend what they think...

Originally Posted by TonyMcAuliffe

Here in Germany we had the Berlin Wall. The sovjets said it was an anti-fascist-protection wall but in reality it was a giant prison.
The people were poor because of the communist planned-market crap. Many people died by trying to flee. They were shot by their own people.
They got the "StaSi" (Staatssicherheit, translated "Homeland Security"). It was an agency to destroy the opposition. They had millions of agents in this little country (for example Angela Merkel).
These things can be used and i think they will be used to hold a broken system together.

Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

Originally Posted by Reg

Ron Paul is not a Republican. He's a Libertarian.

So when he gets elected to the House every two years he is running on the Libertarian Party? Perhaps in Libertarian Fantasy Land. However, in the real world where Libertarians cannot get elected to anything of substance like Congress, he is a Republican.

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Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

Originally Posted by haymarket

So when he gets elected to the House every two years he is running on the Libertarian Party? Perhaps in Libertarian Fantasy Land. However, in the real world where Libertarians cannot get elected to anything of substance like Congress, he is a Republican.

Paul started & will end his career as a republican. He went to the libertarian party to run as a third party in 1988(?) because he was P.O at Regan 2nd term for his spending I believe.

Paul unlike the other candidates is a real republican & conservative then any of the RINOS up on stage.

Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

Originally Posted by Gina

Nothing I will say will convince you otherwise. I'll just add that as to those independents and Democrats for whom his legalized drugs stance might appeal, the fact he wants to eliminate the DOE and does not support Medicare either, will lose him their support. Tit-for-tat.

Nothing you say will convince me because you do not have command of the facts and I do. A considerable number of Republicans support the legalization of drugs as well. Also, not all independents and Democrats need to go to the primary or caucus to vote for Paul for him to win the nomination and not all of them will see those positions as unacceptable. Ron Paul doesn't need a majority of Republicans to agree with his every position in order to win. His consistency also works in his favor as people can be certain of what he will do as president and that gives him a fairly unique appeal among the various candidates.

His positions are not a barrier to his chances of winning support among Republicans or Americans in general. They do serve as a barrier in the respect that the establishment will use every means at its disposal to keep him from ever becoming president.

Originally Posted by StillBallin75

According to Gallup, Paul is currently fourth in the polls among GOP voters/conservatives. He's not really doing that much hotter than the likes of Bachmann, Santorum, and Gingrich.

Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

Originally Posted by StillBallin75

Ron Paul is the same dude saying the same stuff from four years ago. The only difference is that he is four years older. He is a known quantity. He's not worthy of news coverage because, simply put, he's not news. But it's true that he's a hell of a lot smarter than morons like Bachmann and Santorum, and a better debater than the likes of Perry.

The fact that he goes against what the Republican machine advocates keeps him from being a contender. Rick Perry was gaining lots of ground but then made a big gaffe (touting that Texas gives children of illegals in-state tuition privileges and those that oppose it are heartless), that eliminated a lot of conservatives that had been rooting for him. Ron Paul has done the same. He tried running as an independent, and like Nader, didn't get much support, just stole votes from other contenders. He may have a lot of supporters, but he is not a favorite of the ones that control who gets selected.

"I have been thinking that I would make a proposition to my Republican friends... that if they will stop telling lies about the Democrats, we will stop telling the truth about them." --Adlai Stevenson, Politician

Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

Originally Posted by mertex

The fact that he goes against what the Republican machine advocates keeps him from being a contender. Rick Perry was gaining lots of ground but then made a big gaffe (touting that Texas gives children of illegals in-state tuition privileges and those that oppose it are heartless), that eliminated a lot of conservatives that had been rooting for him. Ron Paul has done the same. He tried running as an independent, and like Nader, didn't get much support, just stole votes from other contenders. He may have a lot of supporters, but he is not a favorite of the ones that control who gets selected.

or, as the OP initially proposed, the Media, "He may have a lot of supporters, but he is not a favorite of the ones that control who gets selected" might be owned by those who control. Certainly reinforces the point, don't you think?