my thoughts toobut LPR is holding form for 6 months nowso something may misfire on the way to the Champs-Élysées

How long did Evans hold form in 2011? How long did Wiggins hold form in 2012? Yes he might well misfire but if Porte can hold this form next month there are plenty of precedents. It is unlikely Porte tapered for the Dauphine so he could actually be a little stronger next month. Benotti might be right

Don't forget the best of them, Chris Froome himself in 2013 ... Won Oman, the MTF in Tirreno, Criterium International, Romandie, Dauphine and the Tour. All in pretty dominant fashion. Porte even came second in two of those races.

Benotti69 wrote:Richie Porte telling medics he was "ok". A broken pelvis and broken collarbone is ok. Wonder what kind of PEDs means you cant feel a broken pelvis and collarbone!!!!

I think this is going a bit too far. I am not necessarily doubting him being doped, but suggesting he's not feeling any pain (which is very debatable to begin with) because of PED's is a head scratcher for me. Maybe he was feeling a TON of pain but wanted to downplay it. Or he wasn't feeling pain because of adrenaline. Or he was massively disappointed to end his tour so his head was preoccupied with that. Or something else.

Benotti69 wrote:Richie Porte telling medics he was "ok". A broken pelvis and broken collarbone is ok. Wonder what kind of PEDs means you cant feel a broken pelvis and collarbone!!!!

Oh come on. Sifting through the tea leaves of what a guy says when he's just smacked headfirst into the side of a mountain at 70 km/h to insinuate doping is a new low.

Besides, if you've ever been properly hurt you'd know adrenaline is a ridiculous thing. I crashed once and went headfirst over the bike and landed on my elbow. I got straight back on and only pulled over after a km or so. I wouldn't have even gone to hospital except a taxi driver saw me walking with the bike hunched over holding my arm and basically made me go. Turned out I'd broken the end off my ulna and two chunks off my humerus in a clean y-fracture. So the three bones of my arm had become six independent chunks. But it took me a full minute to even feel sore.

Benotti69 wrote:Richie Porte telling medics he was "ok". A broken pelvis and broken collarbone is ok. Wonder what kind of PEDs means you cant feel a broken pelvis and collarbone!!!!

I think this is going a bit too far. I am not necessarily doubting him being doped, but suggesting he's not feeling any pain (which is very debatable to begin with) because of PED's is a head scratcher for me. Maybe he was feeling a TON of pain but wanted to downplay it. Or he wasn't feeling pain because of adrenaline. Or he was massively disappointed to end his tour so his head was preoccupied with that. Or something else.

Benotti69 wrote:Richie Porte telling medics he was "ok". A broken pelvis and broken collarbone is ok. Wonder what kind of PEDs means you cant feel a broken pelvis and collarbone!!!!

It's very good he's not paralyzed. That was one serious crash.

I am not happy he is hurt, just find it weird he told medics he was "ok" when it clearly proved he wasn't.

Clearly you haven't ridden a bike nor crashed. I've seen guys ride home after a serious smash up on pure adrenaline to find out the next day they have broken ribs and wrist. I smashed up my face once, it looked fine. Kept on riding, next day, two massive black eyes.