Comments on: Irish Fianna FÃ¡il Party required to vote for Partnershipshttp://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/04/17362
News and commentary about the anti-gay lobbySat, 10 Dec 2016 02:57:26 +0000hourly1https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7By: Timothy (TRiG)http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/04/17362#comment-56578
Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:06:48 +0000http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17362#comment-56578If a Fianna FÃ¡il TD wants to vote against this, he can. The price for that will be that he will be thrown out of the party. It’s called parliamentary whip. Standard practice. It’s suspended on some bills, but not on this one.

TRiG.

]]>By: Burrhttp://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/04/17362#comment-56010
Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:57:32 +0000http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17362#comment-56010As was said this is how parliamentary systems work. People vote for parties, not candidates, so if a member defies his party and the coalition, it’s violating the people’s desires and not properly representing them. Cheating in this case would be if some broke party ranks to vote for this.
]]>By: Gavinohttp://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/04/17362#comment-56005
Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:35:31 +0000http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17362#comment-56005This isn’t news. Strong party discipline is bog standard in parliamentary systems when it comes to executive driven legislation. Indeed, one could say that one of the reasons Europe is ahead of the US on relationship recognition has a lot to do with the nature of the party systems in Europe.
]]>By: Chris McCoyhttp://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/04/17362#comment-56004
Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:25:28 +0000http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17362#comment-56004I’m not Irish, and I don’t have an in-depth understanding of Irish law, but this is surely unethical.

People should be allowed to vote their conscience, even if we disagree with the results.

Representatives can rally under the banner of “I didn’t want to vote for it, I was forced to.”

Forcing people to vote against their conscience, against their will, will only increase animosity towards the glbt community.