So its made for liberal Dave Mathew fans out West.
I give a fuck.
They have soy cheese and vegan sour cream.
At no extra cost.
Aside from Brioso, you have to pay 50 cents extra just to get some soy milk
in your Latte. (Which makes no sense cause Soy milk doesn't go bad, and isn't more expensive then milk. This will make me a republican someday.BTW)

BUT THIS CHAIN CAN MAKES PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING VEGAN.
Only Son Tong Luck's Vegan game is that on point.

and theystart out your meal with free chips
Thats a side at pretty much every other veggie friendly restaurant.
Like half your meal.
I am paying 8 bucks and you can't crack some corn open?
Some Tater Tots?

Northstar is doing better, now they got them salads with the burgers.
But still man..
Step your side game up.
I am happy that Surly Girl and Bodego are around
Bodega's got them Tempah sandwhiches.
Surly has the veggie sausage.
Whole World is an option.
But seriously.
Step your side game up.

After 11 food is half-off at mad mex as well.

MAD MEX
I had a Vegan Enchillada today.
Like it wasn't even a wierd thing to want.

well i haven't bought regular milk in years.
but i know soymilk is dumb cheap and doesn't go bad as quickly.
and it certainly doesn't cost 35 to 50 cents more for like 2 ounces.
its not like any of these spots use the soy 1/2 and 1/2.
they use bland soymilk.

well i haven't bought regular milk in years.but i know soymilk is dumb cheap and doesn't go bad as quickly.and it certainly doesn't cost 35 to 50 cents more for like 2 ounces.its not like any of these spots use the soy 1/2 and 1/2.they use bland soymilk.

i think its gouging.

Unless, like me, you purchase organic milk, soy milk is much more expensive than cow milk.

well i haven't bought regular milk in years.but i know soymilk is dumb cheap and doesn't go bad as quickly.and it certainly doesn't cost 35 to 50 cents more for like 2 ounces.its not like any of these spots use the soy 1/2 and 1/2.they use bland soymilk.

i think its gouging.

Well, let's think about this for a second. A restaurant is obviously going to charge you more for you food that it cost them to buy the ingredients. They've got things to pay for. The building, the utilities, the employees, so obviously there's going to be a markup on raw ingredients to cover that. Also, they're probably going to have to get their soymilk from a specialty supplier. And that specialty supplier will probably be more expensive than the regular dairy supplier will be. In addition, although the soymilk may not go bad as quickly, it's going to be far less in demand than regular milk, and will probably go bad at rates comparable to regular milk when you consider how much longer on open container of it will remain in the restaurant. So, you can call it gouging, but I imagine any responsible business owner would call it "good business." If you want to pay for what the ingredients cost and nothing more, eat at home. (And don't use water, gas, or electricity in preparing or storing your food, because that's going to run your cost up.) Plus, if you asked for soymilk anywhere but some sort of hippie-run operation five or ten years ago, you probably wouldn't have gotten much more than a blank stare.

Man, vegans are whiny. And I say that as someone who hasn't eaten meat in about 20 years.

_________________It was fifteen years ago, but I remember it like it was ten.

well i haven't bought regular milk in years.but i know soymilk is dumb cheap and doesn't go bad as quickly.and it certainly doesn't cost 35 to 50 cents more for like 2 ounces.its not like any of these spots use the soy 1/2 and 1/2.they use bland soymilk.

i think its gouging.

Well, let's think about this for a second. A restaurant is obviously going to charge you more for you food that it cost them to buy the ingredients. They've got things to pay for. The building, the utilities, the employees, so obviously there's going to be a markup on raw ingredients to cover that. Also, they're probably going to have to get their soymilk from a specialty supplier. And that specialty supplier will probably be more expensive than the regular dairy supplier will be. In addition, although the soymilk may not go bad as quickly, it's going to be far less in demand than regular milk, and will probably go bad at rates comparable to regular milk when you consider how much longer on open container of it will remain in the restaurant. So, you can call it gouging, but I imagine any responsible business owner would call it "good business." If you want to pay for what the ingredients cost and nothing more, eat at home. (And don't use water, gas, or electricity in preparing or storing your food, because that's going to run your cost up.) Plus, if you asked for soymilk anywhere but some sort of hippie-run operation five or ten years ago, you probably wouldn't have gotten much more than a blank stare.

Man, vegans are whiny. And I say that as someone who hasn't eaten meat in about 20 years.

And I understand that a business is gonna make me pay extra for something if they think they can.
I just think its suspect.

Well, Cafe Brioso doesn't charge extra for soymilk.
Neither does Northstar.
So it can't be that huge of a bullet to bite.
Mad Mex doesn't charge extra for soy cheese or tofu sour cream.

That was the point of my thread.
These places are vegan friendlier because they are trying to see how far they can get over on me.

Man, vegans are whiny. And I say that as someone who hasn't eaten meat in about 20 years.

I recently overheard one of those hippie/plug-ear types trying to explain how yeast wasn't "vegan". Perhaps someone could correct me, but I've always thought it was (scientifically) classified a "plant".

I recently overheard one of those hippie/plug-ear types trying to explain how yeast wasn't "vegan". Perhaps someone could correct me, but I've always thought it was (scientifically) classified a "plant".

they're actually fungi.

PS- does wearing earplugs make me a hippie?

_________________This place is like the fair, only it cost a dollar to get in and the rides are junked cars.

I recently overheard one of those hippie/plug-ear types trying to explain how yeast wasn't "vegan". Perhaps someone could correct me, but I've always thought it was (scientifically) classified a "plant".

they're actually fungi.

PS- does wearing earplugs make me a hippie?

"plugs" like 2-inch-hole-in-yr earlobe "plugs". not the audio kind.

Do fungi have souls?

_________________"It is logically impossible to have a game in which both the actions of the players and the final score can be subject to rules of fairness."

And I understand that a business is gonna make me pay extra for something if they think they can.I just think its suspect.

Get this. It doesn't take two to three dollars worth of coffee beans to make your soy latte.

Those coffee drinks have about a 70-80% profit margin, BTW...

thats exactly my point.
they are already making a lot of money.
i am not against capitalism.
i am against paying an extra 50 cents for something when i don't it should cost that much.
they tax me on something that i don't think should be extra.

the point of this post was commending the resteraunts that don't tax me on this.

thats exactly my point.they are already making a lot of money.i am not against capitalism.i am against paying an extra 50 cents for something when i don't it should cost that much.they tax me on something that i don't think should be extra.

the point of this post was commending the resteraunts that don't tax me on this.

The point is, you're paying for it one way or another. If they don't flat out charge you extra, you can be sure that the cost is being absorbed by a big markup on something else you're buying.

_________________It was fifteen years ago, but I remember it like it was ten.

thats exactly my point.they are already making a lot of money.i am not against capitalism.i am against paying an extra 50 cents for something when i don't it should cost that much.they tax me on something that i don't think should be extra.

the point of this post was commending the resteraunts that don't tax me on this.

The point is, you're paying for it one way or another. If they don't flat out charge you extra, you can be sure that the cost is being absorbed by a big markup on something else you're buying.

naw..cause i am walking away spending less money.
and thats why wanted to express my joy at these places way of doing things.

i said i like the other spots.
but I am happy that Mad Mex and Brioso don't tax me just because they can get away with it.