I thought about sending it to pathology but .... I'm not sure what would change.

Libby is still failing - she still has trouble breathing and something about eating and drinking "hurts". The expulsion of that tissue only really helped her breathing for one day. And, I am somewhat worried her lungs are now involved.

Yes, it would be interesting to know what it is - but, I don't know if the cost and the answer would change our current treatment. I am not in a position to spend a lot of money on a fourteen year old dog and my vet is very understanding. I asked for a chest x-ray the last time I took her in - and the vet very calmly asked "what would that change?" (also - Libby is very sensitive to anesthetics)

At this point - Libby can't be cured. I can only try and make her last days as comfortable as I can.

Thank you for your understanding - I wish the best for you and your pal.

im so sorry...my dog just had a nose bleed and im really scared ive had him for over 12 yrs and he's never had a nose bleed. but since he went to the vet on wednesday and they gave him a shot and some pills. i think it was the shot they gave him idk

im so sorry...my dog just had a nose bleed and im really scared ive had him for over 12 yrs and he's never had a nose bleed. but since he went to the vet on wednesday and they gave him a shot and some pills. i think it was the shot they gave him idk

There are other causes for nose bleeds than cancer, madam. It could well be from something else May I ask what the shot and the pills were for?

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Sorry to all of those who have to go through this with their beloved pet.

I just wanted to update everyone on my dog. It's been well over a month since I first posted...thinking it was the end...and she's still with me. She's approaching the end of her fifth month after being diagnosed with a nasal tumor. Her nose is pretty much plugged. She breaths mostly out of her mouth....which hasn't stopped her from doing what she wants to do. Still no facial deformity. The bad nose bleeds...where blood pours out and sneezing clots..have occured anywhere from two-four weeks. She's still eating and drinking well. The deramaxx, she takes for pain, is still helping her quality of life.

Downside...today she had one of her bad nose bleeds. Keeping my finger cross it doesn't turn into THE nose bleed.

Its so sad that all of us and all of our dogs have to go through this, it just doesnt seem right.

I wanted to give an update on Missy, she doesnt seem to be doing to well these days. We were away for the weekend and we noticed Saturday night her nose was runny again, it was blood but not clots.. just running. She too can not breath well out of her nose, she sleeps leaning against a wall or something propping her head up. She is also sneezing a lot again, sometimes the crazy sneezes that are just uncontrollable. The other day I got home from work and when I went into my upstairs bathroom noticed she had diahrea all over, and since that she has continued to do so in the middle of the night and while we are at work. The past day or 2 it has seemed like more pee than anything but the worst part about it all.... she is not drinking or eating much so where is it coming from?!?!?! I am so scared and I just dont know what to do, it seems like she is just shutting down but then again she was running around in the yard last night. None of it makes sense to me and it is just very hard on me. :sad:
Has anyone else experienced the accidents?

The other day I got home from work and when I went into my upstairs bathroom noticed she had diahrea all over, and since that she has continued to do so in the middle of the night and while we are at work. The past day or 2 it has seemed like more pee than anything but the worst part about it all.... she is not drinking or eating much so where is it coming from?!?!?!

Missy, this is not typical of what I, at least, experienced. It sounds like there's something more going on. The "not drinking or eating much" also worries me. This could lead to dehydration. At the very least I think you should send a fecal sample to the vet to see if he can determine a cause. If you can at all afford it, taking Missy in for an exam would be the best thing.

Did you ever hear back from the specialist about the samples that were sent?

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The best advice I got from my vet when I was about an inch away from losing my mind with worrying about the Quality of Life my 15-year-old dog was having was to:

SPOIL HIM ROTTEN.

He had 3 different times when he quit eating altogether (one time as long as 4 days). I switched him over from dry dogfood to a good brand of canned food (the kind with all the chunks of meat and vegetables). On top of the stuffed-up nose and sneezing, his teeth had also been giving him problems that I was unaware of at the time. This change from dry to wet food started him eating again. After the 2nd time he stopped eating, I fed him small pieces of grilled hotdogs. This worked well for a few weeks. After he wouldn't eat hotdogs anymore, through trial-and-error I found the next incentive: shredded cheese

Like Missy, my dog would also have these unexpected surges of energy (running around in the back yard, etc) after having gone DAYS without eating and/or drinking any water. I still don't know how he had the strength and stamina to do some of the things he did.

What is a treat for Missy? Bacon? Hamburger? Whatever it happens to be, if making a meal of treats everyday will start her eating again, then that is what I would give her.

Unfortunatly the specialist came back "inconclusive" so they wanted us to bring her for an endoscopy but I just dont have the money.

Well yesterday was day off so Missy was outside all day, she wanted no part of inside... it was a beautiful day. I noticed though that she was drinking her water again and then last night she ate dinner, not a lot but a good amount so I was thrilled!
My husband also noticed this morning that that her poop is solid again. And shes drinking her water still so she must not have been feeling good.. maybe. But she seems to be doing better again so I guess we wait and see.

She still has a slight nose bleed. Not has bad as it was on Thursday. It's more like blood tinted mucous.

Yesterday she started with a yellow nasal discharge out of right nostril. Called the vet to get some antibiotics. He said most likely the tumor is growing into the right side. Which I suspected due to the plugged nose. If her eyes start to bulge, that means it's grown into the sinus cavity. He also said...most importantly....you don't put down a happy dog. Which to me means as long as the dog is eating and able to have enjoyment in their life...they're happy!!

The best advice I got from my vet when I was about an inch away from losing my mind with worrying about the Quality of Life my 15-year-old dog was having was to:

SPOIL HIM ROTTEN.

He had 3 different times when he quit eating altogether (one time as long as 4 days). I switched him over from dry dogfood to a good brand of canned food (the kind with all the chunks of meat and vegetables). On top of the stuffed-up nose and sneezing, his teeth had also been giving him problems that I was unaware of at the time. This change from dry to wet food started him eating again. After the 2nd time he stopped eating, I fed him small pieces of grilled hotdogs. This worked well for a few weeks. After he wouldn't eat hotdogs anymore, through trial-and-error I found the next incentive: shredded cheese

Like Missy, my dog would also have these unexpected surges of energy (running around in the back yard, etc) after having gone DAYS without eating and/or drinking any water. I still don't know how he had the strength and stamina to do some of the things he did.

What is a treat for Missy? Bacon? Hamburger? Whatever it happens to be, if making a meal of treats everyday will start her eating again, then that is what I would give her.

I agree. The specialist who diagnosed my dog, more or less, said the same thing....unrestricted diet and unlimited activity.

I know there's nothing I can do to cure my dog, but I could maybe prolong it a little bit by feeding food she'll eat. Eating something is better than eating nothing. One thing I've done, since she started with the nose bleed, I've been feeding her chicken livers to help with her iron loss. Does it work...I don't know...but she loves'em. I also will mix chicken or turkey in with her food.

Wish I had thought about chicken livers like you did when I was trying to get my dog to eat. That would have saved me alot of running back and forth to the grocery store and maybe would have started him back to eating a few days earlier.

Aw, missy......I get so frustrated with 'inconclusive' test results! I'm sorry. Likely, all the endoscopy would have given you was a name, not a cure :sad:

I'm glad to hear she's feeling better. It did sound more like an intestinal malady of some sort--our dogs have been having periodic bouts with diarrhea, too. Pretty common for us in the spring since they've got so much to munch on when the snow finally melts

for even better appetite!

sabran, that's always been our decision maker, too: "Is the dog happy?" That's why we waited so long with Priscilla--she was happy right to that last day. If there was one blessing with this cancer, it was that she was able to live with it for so long and still have a good quality of life.

Chicken livers are an excellent suggestion. Yum! I love 'em, too.

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hi, i'm new here. i've been searching and searching online for some answers to why my dog's nose has been bleeding. i am so sorry for everyones loses on this thread, it is so sad. i lost my first baby, a beagle mix named charlie, to cancer in 2005, and i still cry about him, i can't bare to spread his ashes yet. the thought that killian might have cancer too is making me really upset. here's the background.... killian is an aussie/border collie something else mix, he'll be 8 in october. a few months back he had a sudden nose bleed from his right nostril, i thought it was from both, but after wiping it several times i realized it was only coming from the right side. there was some sneezing associated with this bleeding. i took him to the vet on monday and he said killian had a slight fever, and it was most likely and infection. he gave me antibiotics for him. the nose bleed stopped very quickly, that night i believe, so i thought he had probably just gotten stuck with a stick, but i gave him the anitbiotics anyway, although i didn't finish, i think i was 3 days short. please don't flame me, i had a 3 year old, 2 year old and newborn at the time! (3 year old is now a 4 year old ) i was more than a little stressed and busy. i felt like a loser for not finishing them, but he seemed fine. now, a week ago we found some more blood spots all over the floor, and a 3"ish spot next to his bed. we then noticed our new female rescue dog licking herself and realized she is infact NOT spayed, and is in heat. so i think it must be that. but on sunday i see killian's right nostril actually does have blood dripping. i plan to take him to the vet on monday, but it stopped again, and i assume that maybe it was just a coincidence, maybe he just jammed his nose on something again. he and the new rescue dog play and rough house a LOT. then today, a week later he came up to me all happy, wagging his tail, and there is a stream of thick clear mucous coming from his right nostril again. it was tinged with blood. now it's still running clear, more thin, kind of orange tinted.
i am taking him to the vet in the morning, but i guess i just need to hear from you all if this sounds like what you experienced, or if there is anything else you think it might be? thanks so much for your help.

I am going through the exact same thing right now with my 13 year old black lab. I have had him to 2 vets. His blood work is ok but I have not had xrays because he is older and hates to go in the car.The last time we took him he got excited and bleed everywhere. He seems to sneeze a lot when he gets excited and that is when he bleeds.

We were preparing to put him down when the last vet came to the house because he wasn't eating or sleeping. We put him on a pain medication for 5 days and have him on anitboitics for 14 days(5 days left). He has since been sleeping and eating again and seems vey happy for an old fellow. There is no bleeding accept when he gets excited.

We are using rescue remedy to keep him calm which works ok. Alergy season is bad right now adn I hpefully that maybe alergies could be a cause. The vet is coming again in a few days to check him out again.

I have been told that his heart maybe weak with possible clogged arteries. I have not been able to come to an exact reason as to why, more then likely it is cancer but I am hopefully it's not.

Anyone have any input that would be great. Please keep me advised as to what you find out and I will do the same .

Welcome to both of you, though I always am sad when someone new joins the thread. :sad:

Keep your , mrsjackblack. There are other reasons for nose bleeds that are more treatable and they should be ruled out before assuming the problem is cancer. Dogs with nosebleeds (from whatever cause) do seem to respond to antibiotics and antiinflammatory meds. Sometimes a saline flush will clear out a grass awn and the nose heals... I'm sending for a good report on Killian from the vet tomorrow!

We got the word that it is cancer and his time has come. Timing is not very good as we leave tomorrow for our summer vaction for a week. We have him on some pain medication for a week to make things a little more comfortable for him.

He has been with us since he was a pup and the kids are really going to miss him since they were all young when we got him. I am not planning on telling them till we get back and give them a few more days with him before we say good bye.

He has been a wonderful friend and the best dog I have ever had, he has been with me through a lot and been through a lot in his life as well. Like a true trooper he never complains and never asks for more then food, water, walks and lots of love.

oh goodness, i didn't get any notifications that anyone had responded, i would have posted again sooner. i'm still trying to wrap my head and emotions around it, but killian ended up going in for bloodwork, which showed no high levels of white cells or anything, no tick diseases or any reason for the bleeding. two days later they put him under and did a scope and found the tumors in his right sinus cavity. he's only 7 years old, i just never imagined i would be losing him so soon. i don't know why, but the vet didn't do any sort of biopsy while he was in there, and i'm not going to subject killian to being put under again. he had a hard time coming out of the anithesia, vomitting and lethargic until the next day. so i don't know what kind of tomors, but he said it looked like a bunch of grapes and had it's own blood supply. he had no idea how long killian might be here, or how the end might be. i think everyone in this thread has much more experience with this than my vet. in all his years as a vet he has only had one other animal have tumors in the sinuses and it was a cat. killian's nose has gone from the occasional bleed to dripping red mucous constantly now i have him on antihistamines to try to dry up some of that mucous, and some herbs my step dad gave me, but i am not sure any of it is helping. it's so hard because he seems just like his old self! still sweet and playful, not at all what my other dog was like with cancer. if it wasn't for that constant bloody reminder i'd have no way to know he was sick. i can tell he's losing his sense of smell, and it breaks my heart. i think i'm going to start making him ground beef and turkey to eat. like y'all said, spoil him to the end! thanks so much for the thoughts and for responding. i appreciate having others who know exactly what we are going through.

One thing you might want to try for the mucousy drip--when we were still trying to figure out what Priscilla had, the vet tried antibiotics. I think sometimes a secondary infection sets in and causes some of the dripping. Although it won't cure the problem, if Killian tolerates the antibiotics well, a low dose might clear things up a bit. An anti-inflammatory might also be worth a try. Again, not a cure, but something to keep Killian more comfortable.

Priscilla seemed to be pretty pain-free right up till the end. that the same applies to Killian.

Please keep us posted, mrsjackblack.

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To refresh your memory - Libby is the Border Collie that blew the tissue out her nose. Well, She is NO better but she is NO worse. She continues to have bleeding from her nostril. I am continuing to give her ice chips - I add enough water to make a slush / snow ball. (perhaps nerve damage prevents her tongue from lapping)

I agree, some days she eats well - some days not so good. I change up the menu and see what she accepts.

Now, I would like to say something about Libby's medicine. She is currently taking 10mg of Feldene. (Piroxicam). This is an antiarthritic drug that has been found to have some chemotherapeutic traits in dogs. I don't know about the chemotherapeutic traits (though Libby is about the same as she was in late May) but, this morning she followed me upstairs without too much grief.

Now, she has lost weight and she hasn't been working her joints as much - but, I do think her Feldene is helping. (I will admit - just here.... I was going to order her the Feldene from some Canadian-India drug traffic ring off the internet but I got lucky and was prescribed some for me - at Wal-mart it is $10.00 for 30 generic 10mg capsules) ANOTHER THING - I now show her the pill. She was becoming suspicious of every thing I gave her to eat. I now dip my finger in cake icing (ummm) - then stick her pill in the middle - show it to her - and then slide my gommy pilled finger into her mouth. She knows the pill is there but the icing is so good ( cream cheese - her fave) that the pill is ok.

The problem with Feldene is the dosage - it is a capsule - Libby, a dog around 65 pounds, is to have 9 mg a day. At first I opened the capsules and shook out a little bit - but, after about a month I just gave her the entire capsule. It may be easier to die from kidney failure than nasal cancer. Plus, the extra dosage wasn't that much higher.

I am sorry to hear about the trials we and our pets are enduring. But, I ask for no better when I am at the last stage of my life. I hope I am that lucky.

I'm so glad to hear that Libby is still doing well! I doubt that the extra 11% feldene she's getting is going to be detrimental. (Many meds are typically prescribed to fall in the middle of an acceptable range of mg/unit of body weight, so 10 mg may still be in that range, anyway. ) If she's comfortable, that's what counts.

So cream cheese icing is worth the pill that comes along with it, eh? She's a good girl, that Libby is!

for the update!

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Hi,
I have a dog and his name is Dopey. Im not too sure how old is he as it was given to me by my mother's friend, since then i've had him for 9 years going to be 10 years in January. 2years ago my dogs started breathing heavily and wheezing. I took him to the vet and he said he had chronic asthma, my dog also had his teeth cleaned and 2 teeth pulled out. Since then he was on medication which the vet prescribed (some streroid medicine's name starts with a P). His appetite improved so much he is actually over weight now.
About 6 months ago he was limping, i took him to the vet and he told me that he has dislocated his foot and advised me to get him calcium tablets.
I only started feeding it to him recently about 3 weeks ago as i was trying to find the right one.
2 days ago, when he sneezed i noticed some bllod on the floor. not too much about the size of a small grape.
Could the calcium supplement have caused this? could the heat have caused this? for the past two days he has been himself and no bleeding form his nose.i consulted a new vet and told me that he might have heartworm.
If a blood test is done, will i know if he has nasal cancer?or will my dog still have to go thru a biopsy.Please advice.I'm scared.

In this case, the bleeding could well be a result of long term steroid use. Was it prednisone (or it's active form prednisolone) that Dopey is taking? Two years on steroids is a very long time and you should maybe talk to your vet about weaning him off and trying a different medication.

Prednisone can cause weight gain, osteoporosis, easy bruising, and endocrine problems when used long term. It could be that the blood vessels in the nose have become weak and the sneezing caused them to break.

Nasal cancer is, unfortunately, very hard to diagnose unless a biopsy can be obtained. However, at this point, I'd be more suspicious of side effects from the steroids than nasal cancer.

Good luck dopey. Please keep us posted.

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Thank you so much for your reply HazelrunPack. Yes, that is the name of the medicine. I've spoken to a few vets but they would still suggest the same medicine. I would like to ask if there are any other type of medicine, other that the steroid?
I was very happy at first as his appetite increased because he was such a picky eater and would only eat after he gets his walk and also with us standing beside him praising him as he eats. Now i am very worried about his weight, when i shower him he would just lean on me or sit down as his legs can't support him. Nowadays he only goes for his walks after he gets his dinner.
Could the wheezing be caused by heartworm as one of the vet told me that but she said a blood test would have to be done to be sure.
I tried posting a picture of my dog but can't seem to do it. Either the picture's size was too big or there is a problem with the loading. Will try and post it the next time.

Unfortunately, I have very little experience with asthma in dogs, so I'm not sure what is available for treatments other than the steroids. You might want to start a new thread in the health forum and mention in the title something about treatments for asthma in dogs. There is a vet that posts here now and then and is very helpful...name is Dr. Lee. You might try PMing him for advice as well...though I'm not sure how often he signs on.

The wheezing could be caused by heartworm--and a blood test would be needed, but it's a fairly inexpensive and easy thing to do. If you suspect heartworm at all, you should have the test done ASAP since heartworm can be fatal if left untreated. Has Dopey been on heartworm preventives at all or are you in an area where it isn't too prevalent?

As for pictures, they have to be less than 100KB in size if you're uploading them from your computer. Do you need help in cutting them down to size?

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