If you're an Assistant Chief (of police?) then I would think you can carry nationwide (including in Illinois).

Sometimes, I wish I was an LEO. I'm an Assistant Fire Chief.

"Are we at last brought to such an humiliating and debasing degradation that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defense? Where is the difference between having our arms under our own possession and under our own direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?"- Patrick Henry

Love the job. I've been doing it for 33 years as both active duty military and now a civil service firefighter. I'm with ya, requiring permission to exercise a right is wrong on so many levels. I got hope though.

"Are we at last brought to such an humiliating and debasing degradation that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defense? Where is the difference between having our arms under our own possession and under our own direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?"- Patrick Henry

But I failed the first question on the test, "Are you now or are you willing to become a pervert?" so I became a cop instead.

(old time cop v. firefighter trash talking)

I had a buddy of mine who was a fire fighter-paramedic. Wqe were at his fire barn one day and while waiting toi get off duty he opened his locker and the interior of the door was covered with ladies under garments. I looked at him with apparently a strange look and he said, "oh, those from all my OB cases where we helped delver a child in the home, car or wherever"

Bud

Winter is comingand the White Walkers are already attacking the cities

I am still really torn about what my carry gun "will be" when we get CC in Illinois. Right now I am thinking of a Commander sized 1911 for the colder months and a CZ75PCR or Kahr P9 for "hot month" carry.

Well, that's still a very admirable position! Though it doesn't seem to come with the added privilege to do something that's already your right (if you know what I mean).

No doubt he can flick his bic in all 50 states! No disrepect meant, asst-chief.

None taken! There's probably a law here in Illinois that says I can't carry a loaded and concealed bic because I'll start an arson rampage.

"Are we at last brought to such an humiliating and debasing degradation that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defense? Where is the difference between having our arms under our own possession and under our own direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?"- Patrick Henry

But I failed the first question on the test, "Are you now or are you willing to become a pervert?" so I became a cop instead.

(old time cop v. firefighter trash talking)

I had a buddy of mine who was a fire fighter-paramedic. Wqe were at his fire barn one day and while waiting toi get off duty he opened his locker and the interior of the door was covered with ladies under garments. I looked at him with apparently a strange look and he said, "oh, those from all my OB cases where we helped delver a child in the home, car or wherever"

I'm thinking it may have been a little less "weird" had he gotten pictures of the babies instead. Actually, I came into the Air Force as a cop however, about half-way through basic training, they told me I had too many speeding tickets to be a cop. So, they turned me loose on a 60,000 lb fire truck instead. World hasn't been safe since!

"Are we at last brought to such an humiliating and debasing degradation that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defense? Where is the difference between having our arms under our own possession and under our own direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?"- Patrick Henry

Like adult diapers. DEPENDS. Have a few to choose from. My Kahrs a great guns but still waiting on my holsters to come into my LGS. For now I use a couple Blachawk cheapies for them and the Kel Tec. Have two for my Beretta. A Garette Silent Thunder IWB and a American Holster Company Invisi-Tuck. Both great holsters. Have a Pennsylvania LTCF and waiting on my Fla permit also. Carry legally whenever I can. Which is most of the time. Container in state or CCW out of state and always CCW in my house or on my property. I am a simi old man with a love of firearms who has a nice collection that is growing. Not to old to fight. Just to old to want to waste the energy. I mind my own business and live in the country. Practice a little with all my guns from time to time. Never look for a fight. Will walk away if I can. But know an a** whipping aint worth someones life. Keep up on the laws as you all do. You all keep up the good advice and great fight.

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... O sir, we should have fine times, indeed, if to punish tyrants, it were only sufficient to assemble the people!"

"I am not well versed in history, but I will submit to your recollection, whether liberty has been destroyed most often by the licentiousness of the people, or by the tyranny of rulers. I imagine, sir, you will find the balance on the side of tyranny."- Patrick Henry

Frankly, I might rather have one of these liberators than a NAA mini-revolver!

'The collector in me want's one of those so bad.......

~If you speak of a gun as a toy, then you see medical waste as playground filler. Yes, it means you're a screwed up individual.~~"An invasion of mainland America is unwise. Behind every blade of grass a rifle would await us"-Yamamoto IsorokuI predicted that Chicago/Cook county will be sold out in order to get "shall issue".Based on the restrictions on carry in Chicago/Cook County, I was right.

I only own two guns, a Ruger MkIII, and an STI Trojan 9mm, so I've started carrying the Trojan in my house, it's big, so I'm considering buying a Walther PPS for CCW duty, and that way they don't confiscate my expensive STI if something should happen.

IC / SAF / ISRA / NRA / GRAA MemberAnywhere you are able to carry a pen you should be able to carry a sidearm.

They hate guns so much, they are willing to risk the lives of large crowds and children to feel better with their 'gun free' zones.

I only own two guns, a Ruger MkIII, and an STI Trojan 9mm, so I've started carrying the Trojan in my house, it's big, so I'm considering buying a Walther PPS for CCW duty, and that way they don't confiscate my expensive STI if something should happen.

Trojan 9mm? Exactly what I've been looking for to shoot 9mm in IDPA. I'll trade you for a kidney, you can keep it on ice just in case!

"A citizen may not be required to offer a good and substantial reason why he should be permitted to exercise his rights. The right's existence is all the reason he needs."

We shot a Diamondback DB9 as a special BUG stage last weekend at the IL state IDPA match, and i was impressed by that little gun. Everyone shot 5 shots at 5 targets starting @ 7 yards and coming in to 1 yard (shot targets near to far). Little gun does have a long DOA trigger, but the recoil was much more manageable than expected. Points very nicely, I have a feeling this will be on my list of what to get here very soon. Will it replace a G19? no, but as an alternative, I like it alot.

I only own two guns, a Ruger MkIII, and an STI Trojan 9mm, so I've started carrying the Trojan in my house, it's big, so I'm considering buying a Walther PPS for CCW duty, and that way they don't confiscate my expensive STI if something should happen.

Trojan 9mm? Exactly what I've been looking for to shoot 9mm in IDPA. I'll trade you for a kidney, you can keep it on ice just in case!

I did have possibly doing IDPA matches in mind when I bought it, but I'm not giving it up, it's been an excellent gun.I rarely drink, so I have some kidneys of my own to trade hehe.

IC / SAF / ISRA / NRA / GRAA MemberAnywhere you are able to carry a pen you should be able to carry a sidearm.

They hate guns so much, they are willing to risk the lives of large crowds and children to feel better with their 'gun free' zones.

Yeah, but like most its too late for me to worry about that kind of crap now. When IL gets rtc Im partial to Kimbers but the problem is, theyre almost too nice to carry. My every day beater will be the Springfield xdm .45 compact I just got. If it gets wear marks, I dont care.

Yeah, but like most its too late for me to worry about that kind of crap now. When IL gets rtc Im partial to Kimbers but the problem is, theyre almost too nice to carry. My every day beater will be the Springfield xdm .45 compact I just got. If it gets wear marks, I dont care.

When IL gets rtc Im partial to Kimbers but the problem is, theyre almost too nice to carry. My every day beater will be the Springfield xdm .45 compact I just got. If it gets wear marks, I dont care.

Agreed. And when you get to the point of carrying one everyday (or nearly everyday) you will be amazed at how quickly the gun ages (in terms of finish wear, etc.). But that said, I think the first criterion in choosing an every day carry gun is that it is extremely reliable, and the second is that you shoot it well and are comfortable with it. That it is "cheap" or "expendable" is probably worthy of being further down on the list of criteria for a carry gun. And deciding to carry a "cheap" gun merely because it might get confiscated? First, that is a very low possibility, and second, may belie living in an overly-oppressive state too long!

There are working guns, and there are collectable/presentation/safe-queen guns. It's important not to confuse the two!

"It takes all the running you can do just to keep in the same place."Lewis Carroll, 1872