Re: Z to Canarsie

The original poster is just another in a long line of "transit ideas" that discounts the needs of the riders at the local stations of a basic two-track all local line and to only consider how such a line could be track switched with another line.

It is as if the past two years (and plenty of months) of discussions about the closure of the upcoming Manhattan L-train tunnel never happened.

Did we:

- Look at the ridership of the L train stations between Bedford Avenue and Broadway Junction? - Check

- Look at the ridership of the L-train stations between Broadway Junction and Canarsie? - Check

- Look at the ridership of the L-train Manhattan stations? - Check

- Look at bus ridership patterns and nearby bus stops and routes at each of the stations between Bedford Avenue and Broadway Junction? - Check

- Did we discuss how the J, M and Z trains would make all local station stops to aid L-train riders and persons transferring from affected bus routes? - Check

- Did we discuss how "out of system" transfers would work? - Check

- Did we discuss transfer station facility issues - especially the transfer between the L-train and G-train? - Check

- Did we discuss the lengthening of the C-train as an aid to the travel experience? - Check

- Did we go over, and over again - all manner of how using a single track operation between Manhattan and Brooklyn would not work for the L-train and its huge amount of riders? - Check

- Did we go over, and over again about how the "simple ideas" that dis-respect the different needs of the almost 400,000 daily riders of the L-line turn out to be not good workable ideas. - Check and Check again.

- Have we as a group looked over the huge variety of concerns over the closing of the 14th Street Tunnel project? Check and Check again.