Nothing like stirring up a city full of Monsanto's Round Up filled dirt and inhaling it. We're currently working on getting our HOA to ban leaf blowers for the same reason. When the bottoms of your feet turn black walking in your own home, there's a problem.

basemetal:Marcus Aurelius: If you find yourself in Oklahoma, and do not take steps to leave immediately, than I have no sympathy.

Says someone from PA......

wxboy: I wonder if this is anything like the fungi stirred up by the Joplin tornado.

Very likely, as well as the micro debris from destroyed building materials.

Perfectly happy here in Iowa. You go to far south, east, or west (1, 3, and 1 states respectively) and things start to get weird. Ok fine, Wisconsin is weird too and its only a state away, but its a weird we understand.

SubBass49:Nothing like stirring up a city full of Monsanto's Round Up filled dirt and inhaling it. We're currently working on getting our HOA to ban leaf blowers for the same reason. When the bottoms of your feet turn black walking in your own home, there's a problem.

Your feet are turning black? That sounds like bubonic plague. Or perhaps just, you know, dirt.

In my experience leaf blowers don't kick up some dust and but actual dirt. Dirt is too heavy to stay airborne.

Allergens are up too, so it's probably much worse than it otherwise might be. The past two days, I've woken up thinking, "god, why couldn't I be hungover instead?" Not enough pseudo in the world right now.

highendmighty:lexnaturalis: SubBass49: We're currently working on getting our HOA to ban leaf blowers for the same reason.

Further proof that people involved with HOAs are insufferable dicks.

Not just HOA folk. Leafblower use everywhere blows. Worst invention of all time.

Everyone on my block mows, but only the douchebags across the street use a leaf blower (not counting the hired services for a few on the block). But I can't drive two blocks with my car windows down - and since they banned the free pickups and also banned yard waste from our weekly garbage bags, everyone now blows the grass INTO THE GUTTERS - where they have a great time in the storm drains.

/Really, people? Not a thought in your farking heads, is there? And have you ever heard of consideration for others - or their lungs? No? Huh.

mama2tnt:highendmighty: lexnaturalis: SubBass49: We're currently working on getting our HOA to ban leaf blowers for the same reason.

Further proof that people involved with HOAs are insufferable dicks.

Not just HOA folk. Leafblower use everywhere blows. Worst invention of all time.

Everyone on my block mows, but only the douchebags across the street use a leaf blower (not counting the hired services for a few on the block). But I can't drive two blocks with my car windows down - and since they banned the free pickups and also banned yard waste from our weekly garbage bags, everyone now blows the grass INTO THE GUTTERS - where they have a great time in the storm drains.

/Really, people? Not a thought in your farking heads, is there? And have you ever heard of consideration for others - or their lungs? No? Huh.

When my mother was pregnant with me, she contracted Valley Fever, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coccidioidomycosis which creates symptoms like the flu and leaves cysts and scar tissue in your lungs. 48 years later, she was in the hospital in Minnesota, being treated for pneumonia symptoms and not responding to treatment. After a week of her getting steadily sicker, I mentioned to her doctor in passing that she'd had Valley Fever half a century before. His response was, "What's that?" They changed her treatment, and immediately she got well.

So one of the local municipalities had this great idea to try and save money, they cut the local curb side pick up and offloaded it to a private company that people now have to pay for yard waste. Most people don't though and instead just either add it to the trash or let it go down the storm drains. Now the local municipality is having issues because they have to do a massive upgrade to the water treatment system from excess waste, and wouldn't you know the cost far out strips what they were spending on curb side pick up.

mama2tnt:Everyone on my block mows, but only the douchebags across the street use a leaf blower (not counting the hired services for a few on the block). But I can't drive two blocks with my car windows down - and since they banned the free pickups and also banned yard waste from our weekly garbage bags, everyone now blows the grass INTO THE GUTTERS - where they have a great time in the storm drains.

/Really, people? Not a thought in your farking heads, is there? And have you ever heard of consideration for others - or their lungs? No? Huh.

We have coccidioidomycosis in my part of the country (Arizona), so anything that kicks up the dust and sand can potentially infect you. Working in a hospital I get to see a rush of patients with lung problems after every windstorm.

Be careful about what you're breathing in, it can cause a lot of damage.

mama2tnt:highendmighty: lexnaturalis: SubBass49: We're currently working on getting our HOA to ban leaf blowers for the same reason.

Further proof that people involved with HOAs are insufferable dicks.

Not just HOA folk. Leafblower use everywhere blows. Worst invention of all time.

Everyone on my block mows, but only the douchebags across the street use a leaf blower (not counting the hired services for a few on the block). But I can't drive two blocks with my car windows down - and since they banned the free pickups and also banned yard waste from our weekly garbage bags, everyone now blows the grass INTO THE GUTTERS - where they have a great time in the storm drains.

/Really, people? Not a thought in your farking heads, is there? And have you ever heard of consideration for others - or their lungs? No? Huh.

What drives me absolutely batshiat is when people who DO have the option of getting rid of yard waste, instead hire people with leaf blowers TO BLOW THE LEAVES AROUND and then NOT pick them up. What. The. Fark. They just blow them into the landscaping and off the lawn, but wouldn't you know it, the wind blows them back again so they're back out the next week. I can't tell who the terrible person is in this situation, are the leaf blowers telling them to blow the leaves into the bushes for mulch? Or are the homeowners telling them that because they like their neighbors to see that every week they can hire 'help' for the yard? Or are they just too inattentive to notice or care what is happening around them?

All I know is that it makes me homicidal when I hear those damn things going on, and on, and on, and on for an hour or so while I'm trying to relax.

SubBass49: We're currently working on getting our HOA to ban leaf blowers for the same reason. When the bottoms of your feet turn black walking in your own home, there's a problem.

wow so there was dirt around 30 and 60 years ago*? shampoo your carpets and scrub your floors(as in bucket, scrub brush, on your hands and knees) once in a while, a vacuum and a swiffer/regular mop DON'T get all the dirt, dust, and yes body oil.

*my mom wasn't allowed to walk around in white socks in the 1940's, I wasn't allowed to in the 1970's-why BECAUSE THE BOTTOM OF OUR FEET TURNED BLACK WALKING IN THE HOUSE.

Gyrfalcon:basemetal: Marcus Aurelius: If you find yourself in Oklahoma, and do not take steps to leave immediately, than I have no sympathy.

Says someone from PA......

wxboy: I wonder if this is anything like the fungi stirred up by the Joplin tornado.

Very likely, as well as the micro debris from destroyed building materials.

...or Valley fever after the Northridge earthquake.

Or histoplasmosis, oh, pretty much farking everywhere in the Ohio Valley (there is a real reason that allergists consider KY the worst state in the union for asthma--between the fact that most power plants use coal and the fact there is STILL histoplasmosis left in the soil permanently from where passenger pigeons used the state as a massive rest area...if you don't have a mold allergy and have recently moved to KY, you will develop an allergy to mold after living here for a year or two). Something like 99% of people who live in the Ohio Valley test positive for histoplasmosis exposure, no tornadic intervention needed...

(Which seriously makes me wonder how the hell anyone with rheumatoid arthritis or psoriasis gets treated around here. Pretty much you're never supposed to receive the newer drugs for RA or psoriasis or Crohn's if you've EVER lived in an area where histoplasmosis or Valley Fever exist.)

iheartscotch:Sooooo...start a relief fund and embezzele all the money?

You don't even have to embezzle it....

You can do it all above board - just pay yourself a big salary and donate some tiny percent of what you collect. I had a family member that got involved with a new church and got to see, first-hand, how it worked.

Great Porn Dragon:Gyrfalcon: basemetal: Marcus Aurelius: If you find yourself in Oklahoma, and do not take steps to leave immediately, than I have no sympathy.

Says someone from PA......

wxboy: I wonder if this is anything like the fungi stirred up by the Joplin tornado.

Very likely, as well as the micro debris from destroyed building materials.

...or Valley fever after the Northridge earthquake.

Or histoplasmosis, oh, pretty much farking everywhere in the Ohio Valley (there is a real reason that allergists consider KY the worst state in the union for asthma--between the fact that most power plants use coal and the fact there is STILL histoplasmosis left in the soil permanently from where passenger pigeons used the state as a massive rest area...if you don't have a mold allergy and have recently moved to KY, you will develop an allergy to mold after living here for a year or two). Something like 99% of people who live in the Ohio Valley test positive for histoplasmosis exposure, no tornadic intervention needed...

(Which seriously makes me wonder how the hell anyone with rheumatoid arthritis or psoriasis gets treated around here. Pretty much you're never supposed to receive the newer drugs for RA or psoriasis or Crohn's if you've EVER lived in an area where histoplasmosis or Valley Fever exist.)

It's almost as if huge natural disasters that stir up a lot of dust and mold particles into the air, mixed with industrial toxins that have been lying dormant in the soil for decades, result in an explosion of lung disorders a few months later.

I'm not being snarky (well....not much); but really, it's amazing how this keeps happening again and again, and epidemiologists and other officials are still scratching their heads in awe: "Well, golly! I don't understand why we're seeing so many mold allergies and toxic residue exposures in areas where there's been a lot of fine particulate matter in the air! And always in highly industrial locations! It's such a mystery!"

Gyrfalcon:Great Porn Dragon: Gyrfalcon: basemetal: Marcus Aurelius: If you find yourself in Oklahoma, and do not take steps to leave immediately, than I have no sympathy.

Says someone from PA......

wxboy: I wonder if this is anything like the fungi stirred up by the Joplin tornado.

Very likely, as well as the micro debris from destroyed building materials.

...or Valley fever after the Northridge earthquake.

Or histoplasmosis, oh, pretty much farking everywhere in the Ohio Valley (there is a real reason that allergists consider KY the worst state in the union for asthma--between the fact that most power plants use coal and the fact there is STILL histoplasmosis left in the soil permanently from where passenger pigeons used the state as a massive rest area...if you don't have a mold allergy and have recently moved to KY, you will develop an allergy to mold after living here for a year or two). Something like 99% of people who live in the Ohio Valley test positive for histoplasmosis exposure, no tornadic intervention needed...

(Which seriously makes me wonder how the hell anyone with rheumatoid arthritis or psoriasis gets treated around here. Pretty much you're never supposed to receive the newer drugs for RA or psoriasis or Crohn's if you've EVER lived in an area where histoplasmosis or Valley Fever exist.)

It's almost as if huge natural disasters that stir up a lot of dust and mold particles into the air, mixed with industrial toxins that have been lying dormant in the soil for decades, result in an explosion of lung disorders a few months later.

I'm not being snarky (well....not much); but really, it's amazing how this keeps happening again and again, and epidemiologists and other officials are still scratching their heads in awe: "Well, golly! I don't understand why we're seeing so many mold allergies and toxic residue exposures in areas where there's been a lot of fine particulate matter in the air! And always in highly industrial locations! It's such a mystery!"

I think the mystery is actually what EXACT chemicals/mold is causing the symptoms.

simrobert2001:I think the mystery is actually what EXACT chemicals/mold is causing the symptoms.

The mystery to me is why anyone thinks it has to be ONE chemical, mold, spore, whichever. There's no reason it has to be only one toxin or combination. Just Mother Nature and our industrial waste finally coming back to haunt us.