i was just comparing my champ totem teebird to the rival in feel. i would say that these totems are also stiff. The rival is stiff but no stiffer than the totems that i have. still have not thrown mine work and 14 inches of snow on the ground have held me back. But based of feel and the descriptions i think i have found my teebird replacements.

The Rival I have is a lot firmer then the totem TB's I have. I've yet to throw my totems, but I hear they are stable much like the Rivals. I like Legacy's plastic a lot better though. The Pinnacle plastic Rival is almost bomb proof.

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Originally Posted by MrGlass01

i was just comparing my champ totem teebird to the rival in feel. i would say that these totems are also stiff. The rival is stiff but no stiffer than the totems that i have. still have not thrown mine work and 14 inches of snow on the ground have held me back. But based of feel and the descriptions i think i have found my teebird replacements.

Surprised to hear that these are stiff discs. The plastic looks like the nice gummy and pearly 11x era stuff in pics. Kinda glad I decided to buy an 11x CAL TB instead of two Rivals. Hate the hard and stiff plastic, I woulda been disappointed. If future runs come out softer, I'd be very interested. Do these tend to be more flat or domey?