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This aircraft is equipped with Audio/Video on Demand (IMS/Zodiac RAVE) which offers up to 400 CDs, audio books and 21 radio channels. This system is available via personal screens located in the seat backs.

This aircraft is equipped with Audio/Video on Demand (IMS/Zodiac RAVE) which offers up to 100 movies, 200 TV Programs, 15 games and several live TV Channels. The entertainment content is available in up to 25 languages. The system is available via personal screens located in the seat backs.

On Board Wifi is available in all classes via FlyNet®. The free FlyNet® portal also offers live TV channels, news and other services. Charges for internet usage apply and can be purchased by credit card or by redeeming Miles & More reward miles via your laptop, tablet or mobile device. For further information please click here.

Complimentary beverages are provided on all flights. Snack and meal service varies depending on the length of route. Meals are offered on all long-haul flights.More Information

Bassinets: Special baby beds can be reserved for infants; ask for one when you make your reservation and make sure you are assigned to the proper seating area.

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Read user reviews for Lufthansa Boeing 747-400 (744) V2

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2018/03/05 for Seat 43A

All row 43 on this flight was an "infant" row, with room for 4 bassinets in total (one left side, one right side, two middle). Good legroom (I am not very tall) but no support for feet. IFE system and tray table are in the armrest. Any luggage must be stored for take off and landing. The plane is rather old.

Submitted by
Tamara T on
2018/02/18 for Seat 29A

Row 29 on Lufthansa's 747-400 is without a doubt the best row in Economy. It's the first row in Economy, directly behind Premium Economy. Leg room is more than ample, and there is no bulkhead wall or partition or even a curtain which would reduce your legroom, so the comments about 'restricted legroom' are completely inaccurate. The IFE system and tray table are in the armrest, so it's true that width is slightly reduced, but only slightly, and it's more than made up for by all the extra legroom you have. I would prefer this row even over the exit row in Economy.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2018/01/31 for Seat 29th row

All seats in row 29 have extended legroom, there is no bulkhead in front - I think these are the best seats in the economy cabin apart from the emergeny exit seats. It is also worth noting, that the premium economy cabin is in a 2-3-2 configuration. Because of this, seats in row 29 have all their video screens in the armrest, making the seat somewhat narrower.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017/12/09

I'm not sure why people state that the business class seats are not lie flat, because they most certainly are 180 degrees flat. I agree that they are narrow as is the foot rest area. For max foot space, on the upper deck the seats in row 84 have a larger foot well as they are part of a bulkhead and not a seat in front of them. I also flew in 85 A/C on LH447 - same aircraft. These seats are pretty much standard Biz class fare, but are arranged 2-2 on the upper deck. This is getting out of date as many airlines are now configuring Biz class with all aisle access in 1-2-1 type configs. However, I don't see how this would be possible on the upper deck of a 747, but LH still does 2-2-2 on their Airbus. While better than economy, I would chose a better seating arrangement if available such as AC or UA new Polaris.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017/11/28 for Seat 43 ABC

Seats are barely ok.You do have a little extra space to stretch.Seats are very narrow,not comfortable.Lavatories are very small and uncomfortable to use. Service on this flight was non existent.Apart from meals,no crew member was seen.Plane is rather old, food was gross and very small portions.Thankyfully we had had dinner at the airport before boarding, would have been very hungry otherwise. Coffe for breakfast was served after we were already done with the sandwich, and only one serving.We definitely wouldn´t recommend this flight in economy.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017/11/26 for Seat 29D

There is no any bulkhead in front of this row. It should be marked green, as there is extra leg room. between premium Economy and Economy class. Also you may still place your hand luggagge in front seats (Premium Economy). It might be some kind of discomfort due to table trays hidden in arm supports

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017/10/31 for Seat 82A

I forgot to mention that those sitting in the business cabin should be careful about putting anything next to the armrest. I made the mistake of leaning my iPad against it as I fell asleep and woke to find it missing. A frantic search later found that it had slipped to the space behind the seat! On the return flight, the crew made a point of telling every one NOT to put their i-anything next to the armrest for it could be crushed by the seat and start a fire!

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017/10/30 for Seat 82A

The seats in business class for flight from Denver to Frankfurt are better than I thought. They are lie-flat, not angled, but still quite narrow. There was only one toilet, however.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017/10/20 for Seat Tremendous leg

Row 29 is the first row of the economy section and the space between the last row in Premium Economy (27) and this row 29 is tremendous. Much more leg space than in Premium Economy. Lufthansa charges a supplement for this row which is still much less than Premium Economy. Contrary to whatever Seatguru says, there is NO bulkhead. Separation to Premium Economy is done by a minute partition at the roof. You will not be able to reach beneath a row 27 seat with your feet - and I measure 1,93 meters. Seat width is normal economy of course but the leg space is what matters here. Toilets are behind you, no disturbance from that side neither.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017/08/29

We flew this plane on August 2017 from Denver to Frankfurt (LH447 - D-ABVO "Mulheim a.d. Ruhr"). The flight was very good, except for a take off turbolence because of bad weather conditions. Those seats are very good if you are two people: you can be alone and not disturbed by third persone. You have also a great space more apart between your seat and the window. The seats are comfortable, with a personal enterteinment device like on all other Lufthansa planes. The engine's noise is something important, but all seats you choice behind the wing hear loud noise. This B747 is 21 year old, but the interiors was been revamping and now you can stay in a comfortable plane. Also the legs' space is more then on a Airbus.
Those seats are near the rear WC and if you're tired you can walk on the little rear gangway next WC.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017/08/04 for Seat 81C

In Feb 2017 I flow from Frankfurt to Osaka on JAL in business. It was great. Last month, July 2017, I flow on Lufthansa 740 from Frankfurt to Osaka. It was by far the worst Business class experience I've had in the last 5 years. Horrible and a complete waste of money. The business class seat would have been good 7 to 8 years ago but in 2017... horrible. There is little difference between premium economy. Unlike JAL you can't go fully flat. Horrible.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017/07/30 for Seat 24A

Bulkhead row of Premium Economy is very nice. A curtain is pulled for the whole flight so you don't see or hear anything in the galley ahead. The wall prevents you from stretching out completely but the bulkhead seems to have more leg room than the other PE rows. The tray table and entertainment system reduction don't seem to reduce seat width. It's a comfortable seat but otherwise, PE is the same economy food in ceramic dishes and actual glasses.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017/07/03 for Seat 84C

An excellent seat, but the bed length of 78" and recline angle of 180 degrees is misleading. The bed length may be 78" from the top edge of the seat rest to the footwell, but I'm 6'4" (76") and the bed is way too short for me. Anyone over 6' tall will find their feet crammed into the footwell. Also, the seat does not recline to 180 degrees - more like 150 degrees.

Submitted by
Hans L on
2017/06/30 for Seat 27E

I sat in the 27E from Vancouver to Frankfurt. The premium economic sit is good, you have more place, you can recline the sit more, but its not a wonder as i imagined that would be. Yes, it is definetely better than the normal economic class, but if you sit at the economic row 29, y are fine!

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017/06/30 for Seat 27E

I sat in the 27E from Vancouver to Frankfurt. The premium economic sit is good, you have more place, you can recline the sit more, but its not a wonder as i imagined that would be. Yes, it is definetely better than the normal economic class, but if you take the normal economic class sits imediately behind (roll 29), you will have plante leg space, for same economic class price! The service of the premium economic was not really better than the economic class...its questinable

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017/06/18 for Seat 29C

Plenty of legroom here. The only disadvantage is that the seats are a little narrow as the tray table is in the armrest.

Submitted by
Hans L on
2017/05/28 for Seat 85K

Flight from FRA to KIX.
Can agree to earlier comments:
The upper deck offers some more privacy than the main deck. 2 flight attendants for 22 guests ensure very good Service. However, as said before, the floor is shaking when people move and you feel this. The LH flat bed seats are long but fairly narrow. For the window seat, you have some extra foot/ leg room. Reasonable storage space is also available below the window (but no closed bins).
Entertainment System at LH has a lot of options (e.g. 100+ movies) with good headset.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017/03/26 for Seat 45c

Mark as yellow. In this aircraft 45abc overhead locker blocked off used to store baby bassinet so hand luggage has to go in overhead somewhere else nearby.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017/03/22 for Seat 14G

Lufthansa has updated this route to a newer business class seat. Seats 10E, 10G, 11E, 11G, 12E, 12G, 14E and 14G are significantly inferior seats. The arm rest between is shared and is small. The foot week is significantly smaller than seats A, C, D, H, K. The seats should be yellow.

Submitted by
Bill W on
2017/03/18 for Seat 84H

The thing you need to remember with the seats on the upper deck is that the access to the flight deck is there and the lavatory is also forward. There is literally someone walking by every 15 minutes and the floor gives and shakes your seat when they walk (often not softly) by. That said, the seats were super comfortable, the service was excellent . With 2 flight attendants on the deck, you are likely to get served first as all of the food and drink carts are stages for service in the gap for the exit doors right in front of the seat.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017/01/26 for Seat 42C

Not Recommended. All the seats in that entire row 42 doesn't recline like other seats. Bad experience.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016/12/23 for Seat 29J

On Lufthansa flights from Vancouver to Frankfurt the row 29 has a lot of leg room (more than premium eco). That's why they sell them for additional money. Weird that those seats are marked as bad seats here.

Submitted by
Carl D on
2016/12/03

Though the seata are four across, the are only three under-seat storage spaces so passengers on full flights will have to share the space. Let's hope their fellow travelers are considerate.

Submitted by
Bruno L on
2016/11/26 for Seat 42H

This is a bad seat for anyone who wants to rest during the trip because the hand luggage compartments at this location are for the exclusive use of the cabin crew who are constantly loading and removing luggage from there.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016/11/20 for Seat 36C

In economy this is a very uncomfortable plane with minimal leg room and the recline of the seat ahead puts the screen within 5 inches of your eyes, except my system did not work. an annoyance is paying $35 on booking for a seat, even if this a continuation of a UA flight. Because of the discomfort in Economy I try to stay off LH whenever possible

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016/11/12 for Seat 85A

While rows 1 and 83 are probably my favorite for this plane, 85A was really nice. Just like row, 83, there is no one right behind you, only a shelf. Foot traffic is also low, because the lav is at the front and the flight attendants set up their service in the exit row between rows 83 and 84. Lufthansa offers a really well rounded service.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016/11/06 for Seat 29K

Echoing the good rating for seat 29K -- and the entire 29 row, for that matter. Huge legroom. There were a couple comments about there being a bulkhead here which actually restricted legroom, but that was not the case. Rather, in place of a bulkhead or curtain, there is simply a split in class, with the seats in front are 'premium' economy. Well, they might have been wider than my economy seat in 29K, but they had far, far, less legroom.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016/11/02 for Seat 29K

I had the privilige to sit in seat 29K for 10 hours between FRA and SEA and it was better than I had expected.
Ok, the seat was quite narrow but that´s Economy Class. The table and personal entertainment screen was the folding type, which can sometimes be quite annoying. But this was compensated by great legroom.
Placed just behind the last row of Premium Economy seat 29K had suprisingly good legroom. So much space. Awesome!

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016/10/10 for Seat 2C

From SEA to FRA and back, 1C over and 2c back. Was a bit disappointed that a -8 wasn't on this route, but this airplane had been refurbished and looked like new. Really comfortable seats and all gadgets worked fine. A toss up between rows 1 and 2, main difference is that the screen is on the bulkhead for row 1, and a swivel screen from the seat divider for row 2. The overhead storage issue that another reviewer mentioned wasn't a problem for us. These are very quiet locations as the galley and restrooms are aft. And you get served first. And that service was excellent.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016/10/06 for Seat 12G

The seat was on the aisle and had more room than I needed to be very comfortable. All the electronics worked well - seat adjustments, screen, etc. Only complaint was, for a business class seat, there was a poorly designed shelf for belongings so they kept falling out and onto our feet. Just a lip on the shelf would prevent that.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016/09/30 for Seat 53K

The plane start to be narrow from line 49 or 50 but the corridor is same (left side of H seats), so in the line 53 the 3 seats are about 10 cm smaller together than a standard economy seat. Furthermore the legroom in 53K is divided to two parts (1/4 - 3/4) by the leg of 52K.
I guess the 53A is same.
I do not recommend to anyone.

Submitted by
Allen S on
2016/09/10 for Seat 1H

I flew in seat 1H in Business Class from FRA to IAD. The seat should be marked "yellow" for caution as has no overhead storage. There are no overhead bins for the 1st row and the two closest bins are undersized, due to the curvature of the plane, meaning very little room being shared by up to six people in three rows. In addition, the wall-mounted AVOD screens are slightly smaller in row 1.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016/07/18 for Seat 86H

We were booked in PY for the flight but on checkin at the airport were offered an upgrade for $300 each which we took. We were upstairs which I found a little cramped with the windows quite low to see out of. A good flight with a good sleep but the catering ex YVR was really mediocre. I had probably the worst tenderloin ever. So overcooked, it was like boot leather!

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016/07/15 for Seat 29

Not sure what plane (or version) folks are on, however LH advertises this row for an extra $150 (or $100 depending on day of ther week as "extra" leg room. In fact, SeatGuru is right: it's a "knee knocker". I have pre-paid for this seat previously and when I checked in was told that "There is no extra leg room" in this row. Traveler Beware NOTE: Rows 29 (DEFG) are normally reserved for families with infants (fold-downs for basinets). If you can't endure crying young ones you may reconsider this row.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016/07/06

Row 29 was delightful, Plenty of legroom. My wife could not touch the seat in row 28 with her legs fully extended.
Close to WC, seat in row 28 could be fully reclined without intruding into your space.
They all were like this once upon a time.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016/07/03 for Seat Row 29

Row 29 offers plenty of leg space and there is no bulkhead. Seats 29DEFG offers even more leg room.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016/06/21 for Seat 55B

This was a good seat because it's only one of a very few in economy where you can have a window with only one other person sitting next to you. You get bonus legroom because there are only two seats in the row in front of you, with extra space on the left. Plus, you basically have four windows to see out of. If you're concerned about the time to deplane like I was, it's only about 10 minutes. It's also reasonably close to the lavs at the back.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016/06/19 for Seat 24c

Seat 24C in premium economy was great. On day of check-in, it cost 300 Euros to upgrade and was well worth it. Better seat, service and food. I wish more airlines would make Premium Economy like this, both more leg room AND wider seats.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016/06/14 for Seat 84 C

Very good seat, with more legroom

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016/05/18

Business class on the airplane is great. Comfortable lie-flat seats and good food. seats are a bit narrow though. 83A YVR-FRA and 2K FRA-YVR I would recommend booking in the upper deck but the nose is fun as well.

Submitted by
LA R on
2016/05/01 for Seat 1H

I was upgraded from premium economy and this was my first time in a lie flat bed. The seat is right in the nose of the 747 so I believe it is on a slight angle. With this in mind, you might want to raise your head portion of the bed when you try to sleep. I didn't find the bed that comfortable and didn't sleep much but I think it was because my head was lower than my feet. Other than that, it was a nice seat and the service made up for a previous bad experience with Lufthansa.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016/04/28 for Seat 1B

Bulkhead seats 1A, B, C, and D have far more open space for your feet and very quiet as nobody is walking past you to/from the restroom. LIkely the best option for a couple traveling together.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016/04/23 for Seat 56K

I flew FRA to Seattle on 22 April and had booked initially a Premium Eco seat. A few days prior to departure I submitted a request for upgrade through Lufthansa myOffer, which got accepted 48 hrs prior to departure. When boarding I found that Biz class was only half full, Pr Eco full and Eco was almost full too. Excellent service and seat 86K is wonderful (although for a night flight the sometimes loud galley chatting of some of the crew may be bothering). IFE is excellent too. Seated on upper deck was a very intimate experience and very quiet. The B 747 I was on does however gives a "worn" impression. This was not my first Biz class experience so can compare with some others. I would give LH almost a 4 on a scale from 1 to 5.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016/04/08 for Seat 55B

I flew to New York on the new 747-8i and thought that the seat was ok. I was supposed to be flying back on an A380, but a few weeks before, it was changed to a 747-400. I was upset as I believed that the seats would not be as good. It turns out that they are actually better! They feature the brand new screens in economy, which are higher resolution and extremely fast and responsive. The older ones, you had to push really hard into the screen in order to get it to respond. My flight on the older Jumbo actually turned out better than the new one!

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016/03/18 for Seat 36A

terrible seat, flight was full so all seats taken, to get out to the toilet is really bad because you have to disturb the 2 next to you..the aircraft is old, flight entertainment wasn't working at all on the plane, not even in business - a nightmare of a flight from FRA to DEN

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016/03/10

Due to the change from 3 to 2 seats per row in row 54 the outer seats (54B and 54J) are separated by a gap of roughly one foot from the cabin wall. Being displaced from the window impacts the view to the outside and also there is no wall you can lean against (the only position I can sleep in in Y-class). On the upside there is plenty of space for your luggage between these seats and the cabin wall and you gain plenty of legroom as you have an extra foot of space to your left and you can stretch your legs diagonally underneath the outer seats of row 53 (53A and 53K) which makes 54A and 54J a good choice for tall passengers.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016/03/09 for Seat 27G

27G is the last row of PE in this configuration, and as such, due to the 2/4/2 setup, seats D and G protrude slightly into the aisle compared the the Eco row behind. This leads to trolleys and passengers bumping into the seat on the way through. Also the entire row is slightly narrower than the rows forward - very slightly reducing seat width compared to the remainder of the PE cabin.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016/01/30 for Seat 4D

Seat 4D is absolutely the best seat on the entire plane if you are traveling alone. You also get 2 amenity pouches in that seat, as well as access to either aisle side. Instead of sitting at an angle, you also sit straight. You also get a large wall on the right side to shield you away from the door, aisle, other passenger and anything else.

Submitted by
Jens F on
2015/12/26 for Seat 86K

Nice and calm place, with a lot if storage and good "platform" to unpack/pack your carry-on

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2015/12/03 for Seat 29k

If you are hesitating over Premium economy, the seats in row 29 have more legroom and are 70€ per sector. Is it worth paying whatever the Premium costs for an extra inch width and a pre-take off glass of orange juice? I didn't think it was.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2015/11/03 for Seat 33K

Sat in seat 33K. With no seat in front of you, there is lots of leg room. You can even sneak out through the small gap between seat 32J and the exit door, without bothering those in seats 33H and 33J.

Submitted by
Stan H on
2015/11/01 for Seat 25B

Premium Economy is worth every penny, the extra legroom is great but it is the extra width that makes the long flight to and from Vancouver bearable.
There are few extra services, though friendly and prompt - but there is an amenity kit hidden in the arm rest (socks, eye cover, tooth brush, etc.).
The large divider between the seats holds the tray table and can be a bit inconvenient to climb over and the down side is that it can't be raised if the seat next to you is open and you want to stretch out. If I could always have seating like this I wouldn't dread overseas flights.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2015/06/20 for Seat 37A

Some extra legroom would be really good. The 37A economy class seat was horrible. Narrow and old.

Submitted by
Raffael H on
2015/04/11 for Seat 55J

Flew on this configuration from KIX to FRA. I highly recommend the Window seats in row 55. Since there is only half a seat in front of you, you get lots of space for storage and legroom. I could even leave the seat on the walkway between the fuselage and my seat without disturbing my neighbor. Additionally you get 3-4 windows to look out. The only downside is that the overhead compartment is used to store medical equipment.

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Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2018 / 03 / 05
for Seat 43A

All row 43 on this flight was an "infant" row, with room for 4 bassinets in total (one left side, one right side, two middle). Good legroom (I am not very tall) but no support for feet. IFE system and tray table are in the armrest. Any luggage must be stored for take off and landing. The plane is rather old.

Submitted by
Tamara T on
2018 / 02 / 18
for Seat 29A

Row 29 on Lufthansa's 747-400 is without a doubt the best row in Economy. It's the first row in Economy, directly behind Premium Economy. Leg room is more than ample, and there is no bulkhead wall or partition or even a curtain which would reduce your legroom, so the comments about 'restricted legroom' are completely inaccurate. The IFE system and tray table are in the armrest, so it's true that width is slightly reduced, but only slightly, and it's more than made up for by all the extra legroom you have. I would prefer this row even over the exit row in Economy.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2018 / 01 / 31
for Seat 29th row

All seats in row 29 have extended legroom, there is no bulkhead in front - I think these are the best seats in the economy cabin apart from the emergeny exit seats. It is also worth noting, that the premium economy cabin is in a 2-3-2 configuration. Because of this, seats in row 29 have all their video screens in the armrest, making the seat somewhat narrower.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017 / 12 / 09

I'm not sure why people state that the business class seats are not lie flat, because they most certainly are 180 degrees flat. I agree that they are narrow as is the foot rest area. For max foot space, on the upper deck the seats in row 84 have a larger foot well as they are part of a bulkhead and not a seat in front of them. I also flew in 85 A/C on LH447 - same aircraft. These seats are pretty much standard Biz class fare, but are arranged 2-2 on the upper deck. This is getting out of date as many airlines are now configuring Biz class with all aisle access in 1-2-1 type configs. However, I don't see how this would be possible on the upper deck of a 747, but LH still does 2-2-2 on their Airbus. While better than economy, I would chose a better seating arrangement if available such as AC or UA new Polaris.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017 / 11 / 28
for Seat 43 ABC

Seats are barely ok.You do have a little extra space to stretch.Seats are very narrow,not comfortable.Lavatories are very small and uncomfortable to use. Service on this flight was non existent.Apart from meals,no crew member was seen.Plane is rather old, food was gross and very small portions.Thankyfully we had had dinner at the airport before boarding, would have been very hungry otherwise. Coffe for breakfast was served after we were already done with the sandwich, and only one serving.We definitely wouldn´t recommend this flight in economy.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017 / 11 / 26
for Seat 29D

There is no any bulkhead in front of this row. It should be marked green, as there is extra leg room. between premium Economy and Economy class. Also you may still place your hand luggagge in front seats (Premium Economy). It might be some kind of discomfort due to table trays hidden in arm supports

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017 / 10 / 31
for Seat 82A

I forgot to mention that those sitting in the business cabin should be careful about putting anything next to the armrest. I made the mistake of leaning my iPad against it as I fell asleep and woke to find it missing. A frantic search later found that it had slipped to the space behind the seat! On the return flight, the crew made a point of telling every one NOT to put their i-anything next to the armrest for it could be crushed by the seat and start a fire!

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017 / 10 / 30
for Seat 82A

The seats in business class for flight from Denver to Frankfurt are better than I thought. They are lie-flat, not angled, but still quite narrow. There was only one toilet, however.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017 / 10 / 20
for Seat Tremendous leg

Row 29 is the first row of the economy section and the space between the last row in Premium Economy (27) and this row 29 is tremendous. Much more leg space than in Premium Economy. Lufthansa charges a supplement for this row which is still much less than Premium Economy. Contrary to whatever Seatguru says, there is NO bulkhead. Separation to Premium Economy is done by a minute partition at the roof. You will not be able to reach beneath a row 27 seat with your feet - and I measure 1,93 meters. Seat width is normal economy of course but the leg space is what matters here. Toilets are behind you, no disturbance from that side neither.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017 / 08 / 29

We flew this plane on August 2017 from Denver to Frankfurt (LH447 - D-ABVO "Mulheim a.d. Ruhr"). The flight was very good, except for a take off turbolence because of bad weather conditions. Those seats are very good if you are two people: you can be alone and not disturbed by third persone. You have also a great space more apart between your seat and the window. The seats are comfortable, with a personal enterteinment device like on all other Lufthansa planes. The engine's noise is something important, but all seats you choice behind the wing hear loud noise. This B747 is 21 year old, but the interiors was been revamping and now you can stay in a comfortable plane. Also the legs' space is more then on a Airbus.
Those seats are near the rear WC and if you're tired you can walk on the little rear gangway next WC.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017 / 08 / 04
for Seat 81C

In Feb 2017 I flow from Frankfurt to Osaka on JAL in business. It was great. Last month, July 2017, I flow on Lufthansa 740 from Frankfurt to Osaka. It was by far the worst Business class experience I've had in the last 5 years. Horrible and a complete waste of money. The business class seat would have been good 7 to 8 years ago but in 2017... horrible. There is little difference between premium economy. Unlike JAL you can't go fully flat. Horrible.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017 / 07 / 30
for Seat 24A

Bulkhead row of Premium Economy is very nice. A curtain is pulled for the whole flight so you don't see or hear anything in the galley ahead. The wall prevents you from stretching out completely but the bulkhead seems to have more leg room than the other PE rows. The tray table and entertainment system reduction don't seem to reduce seat width. It's a comfortable seat but otherwise, PE is the same economy food in ceramic dishes and actual glasses.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017 / 07 / 03
for Seat 84C

An excellent seat, but the bed length of 78" and recline angle of 180 degrees is misleading. The bed length may be 78" from the top edge of the seat rest to the footwell, but I'm 6'4" (76") and the bed is way too short for me. Anyone over 6' tall will find their feet crammed into the footwell. Also, the seat does not recline to 180 degrees - more like 150 degrees.

Submitted by
Hans L on
2017 / 06 / 30
for Seat 27E

I sat in the 27E from Vancouver to Frankfurt. The premium economic sit is good, you have more place, you can recline the sit more, but its not a wonder as i imagined that would be. Yes, it is definetely better than the normal economic class, but if you sit at the economic row 29, y are fine!

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017 / 06 / 30
for Seat 27E

I sat in the 27E from Vancouver to Frankfurt. The premium economic sit is good, you have more place, you can recline the sit more, but its not a wonder as i imagined that would be. Yes, it is definetely better than the normal economic class, but if you take the normal economic class sits imediately behind (roll 29), you will have plante leg space, for same economic class price! The service of the premium economic was not really better than the economic class...its questinable

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017 / 06 / 18
for Seat 29C

Plenty of legroom here. The only disadvantage is that the seats are a little narrow as the tray table is in the armrest.

Submitted by
Hans L on
2017 / 05 / 28
for Seat 85K

Flight from FRA to KIX.
Can agree to earlier comments:
The upper deck offers some more privacy than the main deck. 2 flight attendants for 22 guests ensure very good Service. However, as said before, the floor is shaking when people move and you feel this. The LH flat bed seats are long but fairly narrow. For the window seat, you have some extra foot/ leg room. Reasonable storage space is also available below the window (but no closed bins).
Entertainment System at LH has a lot of options (e.g. 100+ movies) with good headset.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017 / 03 / 26
for Seat 45c

Mark as yellow. In this aircraft 45abc overhead locker blocked off used to store baby bassinet so hand luggage has to go in overhead somewhere else nearby.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017 / 03 / 22
for Seat 14G

Lufthansa has updated this route to a newer business class seat. Seats 10E, 10G, 11E, 11G, 12E, 12G, 14E and 14G are significantly inferior seats. The arm rest between is shared and is small. The foot week is significantly smaller than seats A, C, D, H, K. The seats should be yellow.

Submitted by
Bill W on
2017 / 03 / 18
for Seat 84H

The thing you need to remember with the seats on the upper deck is that the access to the flight deck is there and the lavatory is also forward. There is literally someone walking by every 15 minutes and the floor gives and shakes your seat when they walk (often not softly) by. That said, the seats were super comfortable, the service was excellent . With 2 flight attendants on the deck, you are likely to get served first as all of the food and drink carts are stages for service in the gap for the exit doors right in front of the seat.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2017 / 01 / 26
for Seat 42C

Not Recommended. All the seats in that entire row 42 doesn't recline like other seats. Bad experience.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016 / 12 / 23
for Seat 29J

On Lufthansa flights from Vancouver to Frankfurt the row 29 has a lot of leg room (more than premium eco). That's why they sell them for additional money. Weird that those seats are marked as bad seats here.

Submitted by
Carl D on
2016 / 12 / 03

Though the seata are four across, the are only three under-seat storage spaces so passengers on full flights will have to share the space. Let's hope their fellow travelers are considerate.

Submitted by
Bruno L on
2016 / 11 / 26
for Seat 42H

This is a bad seat for anyone who wants to rest during the trip because the hand luggage compartments at this location are for the exclusive use of the cabin crew who are constantly loading and removing luggage from there.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016 / 11 / 20
for Seat 36C

In economy this is a very uncomfortable plane with minimal leg room and the recline of the seat ahead puts the screen within 5 inches of your eyes, except my system did not work. an annoyance is paying $35 on booking for a seat, even if this a continuation of a UA flight. Because of the discomfort in Economy I try to stay off LH whenever possible

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016 / 11 / 12
for Seat 85A

While rows 1 and 83 are probably my favorite for this plane, 85A was really nice. Just like row, 83, there is no one right behind you, only a shelf. Foot traffic is also low, because the lav is at the front and the flight attendants set up their service in the exit row between rows 83 and 84. Lufthansa offers a really well rounded service.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016 / 11 / 06
for Seat 29K

Echoing the good rating for seat 29K -- and the entire 29 row, for that matter. Huge legroom. There were a couple comments about there being a bulkhead here which actually restricted legroom, but that was not the case. Rather, in place of a bulkhead or curtain, there is simply a split in class, with the seats in front are 'premium' economy. Well, they might have been wider than my economy seat in 29K, but they had far, far, less legroom.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016 / 11 / 02
for Seat 29K

I had the privilige to sit in seat 29K for 10 hours between FRA and SEA and it was better than I had expected.
Ok, the seat was quite narrow but that´s Economy Class. The table and personal entertainment screen was the folding type, which can sometimes be quite annoying. But this was compensated by great legroom.
Placed just behind the last row of Premium Economy seat 29K had suprisingly good legroom. So much space. Awesome!

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016 / 10 / 10
for Seat 2C

From SEA to FRA and back, 1C over and 2c back. Was a bit disappointed that a -8 wasn't on this route, but this airplane had been refurbished and looked like new. Really comfortable seats and all gadgets worked fine. A toss up between rows 1 and 2, main difference is that the screen is on the bulkhead for row 1, and a swivel screen from the seat divider for row 2. The overhead storage issue that another reviewer mentioned wasn't a problem for us. These are very quiet locations as the galley and restrooms are aft. And you get served first. And that service was excellent.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016 / 10 / 06
for Seat 12G

The seat was on the aisle and had more room than I needed to be very comfortable. All the electronics worked well - seat adjustments, screen, etc. Only complaint was, for a business class seat, there was a poorly designed shelf for belongings so they kept falling out and onto our feet. Just a lip on the shelf would prevent that.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016 / 09 / 30
for Seat 53K

The plane start to be narrow from line 49 or 50 but the corridor is same (left side of H seats), so in the line 53 the 3 seats are about 10 cm smaller together than a standard economy seat. Furthermore the legroom in 53K is divided to two parts (1/4 - 3/4) by the leg of 52K.
I guess the 53A is same.
I do not recommend to anyone.

Submitted by
Allen S on
2016 / 09 / 10
for Seat 1H

I flew in seat 1H in Business Class from FRA to IAD. The seat should be marked "yellow" for caution as has no overhead storage. There are no overhead bins for the 1st row and the two closest bins are undersized, due to the curvature of the plane, meaning very little room being shared by up to six people in three rows. In addition, the wall-mounted AVOD screens are slightly smaller in row 1.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016 / 07 / 18
for Seat 86H

We were booked in PY for the flight but on checkin at the airport were offered an upgrade for $300 each which we took. We were upstairs which I found a little cramped with the windows quite low to see out of. A good flight with a good sleep but the catering ex YVR was really mediocre. I had probably the worst tenderloin ever. So overcooked, it was like boot leather!

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016 / 07 / 15
for Seat 29

Not sure what plane (or version) folks are on, however LH advertises this row for an extra $150 (or $100 depending on day of ther week as "extra" leg room. In fact, SeatGuru is right: it's a "knee knocker". I have pre-paid for this seat previously and when I checked in was told that "There is no extra leg room" in this row. Traveler Beware NOTE: Rows 29 (DEFG) are normally reserved for families with infants (fold-downs for basinets). If you can't endure crying young ones you may reconsider this row.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016 / 07 / 06

Row 29 was delightful, Plenty of legroom. My wife could not touch the seat in row 28 with her legs fully extended.
Close to WC, seat in row 28 could be fully reclined without intruding into your space.
They all were like this once upon a time.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016 / 07 / 03
for Seat Row 29

Row 29 offers plenty of leg space and there is no bulkhead. Seats 29DEFG offers even more leg room.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016 / 06 / 21
for Seat 55B

This was a good seat because it's only one of a very few in economy where you can have a window with only one other person sitting next to you. You get bonus legroom because there are only two seats in the row in front of you, with extra space on the left. Plus, you basically have four windows to see out of. If you're concerned about the time to deplane like I was, it's only about 10 minutes. It's also reasonably close to the lavs at the back.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016 / 06 / 19
for Seat 24c

Seat 24C in premium economy was great. On day of check-in, it cost 300 Euros to upgrade and was well worth it. Better seat, service and food. I wish more airlines would make Premium Economy like this, both more leg room AND wider seats.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016 / 06 / 14
for Seat 84 C

Very good seat, with more legroom

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016 / 05 / 18

Business class on the airplane is great. Comfortable lie-flat seats and good food. seats are a bit narrow though. 83A YVR-FRA and 2K FRA-YVR I would recommend booking in the upper deck but the nose is fun as well.

Submitted by
LA R on
2016 / 05 / 01
for Seat 1H

I was upgraded from premium economy and this was my first time in a lie flat bed. The seat is right in the nose of the 747 so I believe it is on a slight angle. With this in mind, you might want to raise your head portion of the bed when you try to sleep. I didn't find the bed that comfortable and didn't sleep much but I think it was because my head was lower than my feet. Other than that, it was a nice seat and the service made up for a previous bad experience with Lufthansa.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016 / 04 / 28
for Seat 1B

Bulkhead seats 1A, B, C, and D have far more open space for your feet and very quiet as nobody is walking past you to/from the restroom. LIkely the best option for a couple traveling together.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016 / 04 / 23
for Seat 56K

I flew FRA to Seattle on 22 April and had booked initially a Premium Eco seat. A few days prior to departure I submitted a request for upgrade through Lufthansa myOffer, which got accepted 48 hrs prior to departure. When boarding I found that Biz class was only half full, Pr Eco full and Eco was almost full too. Excellent service and seat 86K is wonderful (although for a night flight the sometimes loud galley chatting of some of the crew may be bothering). IFE is excellent too. Seated on upper deck was a very intimate experience and very quiet. The B 747 I was on does however gives a "worn" impression. This was not my first Biz class experience so can compare with some others. I would give LH almost a 4 on a scale from 1 to 5.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016 / 04 / 08
for Seat 55B

I flew to New York on the new 747-8i and thought that the seat was ok. I was supposed to be flying back on an A380, but a few weeks before, it was changed to a 747-400. I was upset as I believed that the seats would not be as good. It turns out that they are actually better! They feature the brand new screens in economy, which are higher resolution and extremely fast and responsive. The older ones, you had to push really hard into the screen in order to get it to respond. My flight on the older Jumbo actually turned out better than the new one!

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016 / 03 / 18
for Seat 36A

terrible seat, flight was full so all seats taken, to get out to the toilet is really bad because you have to disturb the 2 next to you..the aircraft is old, flight entertainment wasn't working at all on the plane, not even in business - a nightmare of a flight from FRA to DEN

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016 / 03 / 10

Due to the change from 3 to 2 seats per row in row 54 the outer seats (54B and 54J) are separated by a gap of roughly one foot from the cabin wall. Being displaced from the window impacts the view to the outside and also there is no wall you can lean against (the only position I can sleep in in Y-class). On the upside there is plenty of space for your luggage between these seats and the cabin wall and you gain plenty of legroom as you have an extra foot of space to your left and you can stretch your legs diagonally underneath the outer seats of row 53 (53A and 53K) which makes 54A and 54J a good choice for tall passengers.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016 / 03 / 09
for Seat 27G

27G is the last row of PE in this configuration, and as such, due to the 2/4/2 setup, seats D and G protrude slightly into the aisle compared the the Eco row behind. This leads to trolleys and passengers bumping into the seat on the way through. Also the entire row is slightly narrower than the rows forward - very slightly reducing seat width compared to the remainder of the PE cabin.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2016 / 01 / 30
for Seat 4D

Seat 4D is absolutely the best seat on the entire plane if you are traveling alone. You also get 2 amenity pouches in that seat, as well as access to either aisle side. Instead of sitting at an angle, you also sit straight. You also get a large wall on the right side to shield you away from the door, aisle, other passenger and anything else.

Submitted by
Jens F on
2015 / 12 / 26
for Seat 86K

Nice and calm place, with a lot if storage and good "platform" to unpack/pack your carry-on

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2015 / 12 / 03
for Seat 29k

If you are hesitating over Premium economy, the seats in row 29 have more legroom and are 70€ per sector. Is it worth paying whatever the Premium costs for an extra inch width and a pre-take off glass of orange juice? I didn't think it was.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2015 / 11 / 03
for Seat 33K

Sat in seat 33K. With no seat in front of you, there is lots of leg room. You can even sneak out through the small gap between seat 32J and the exit door, without bothering those in seats 33H and 33J.

Submitted by
Stan H on
2015 / 11 / 01
for Seat 25B

Premium Economy is worth every penny, the extra legroom is great but it is the extra width that makes the long flight to and from Vancouver bearable.
There are few extra services, though friendly and prompt - but there is an amenity kit hidden in the arm rest (socks, eye cover, tooth brush, etc.).
The large divider between the seats holds the tray table and can be a bit inconvenient to climb over and the down side is that it can't be raised if the seat next to you is open and you want to stretch out. If I could always have seating like this I wouldn't dread overseas flights.

Submitted by
SeatGuru User on
2015 / 06 / 20
for Seat 37A

Some extra legroom would be really good. The 37A economy class seat was horrible. Narrow and old.

Submitted by
Raffael H on
2015 / 04 / 11
for Seat 55J

Flew on this configuration from KIX to FRA. I highly recommend the Window seats in row 55. Since there is only half a seat in front of you, you get lots of space for storage and legroom. I could even leave the seat on the walkway between the fuselage and my seat without disturbing my neighbor. Additionally you get 3-4 windows to look out. The only downside is that the overhead compartment is used to store medical equipment.