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Comments on MetaFilter post Wild Kingdom face off - lions vs. buffalo vs. crocsTue, 22 May 2007 10:11:49 -0800Tue, 22 May 2007 10:11:49 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60Wild Kingdom face off - lions vs. buffalo vs. crocshttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs
<a href="http://haha.nu/amazing/battle-at-kruger/">Animal Face Off!</a> A herd of buffalo battle a pride of lions and two crocodiles. Like "The Warriors" at a watering hole.post:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399Tue, 22 May 2007 09:57:46 -0800Kraftmatic Adjustable CheeselionsbuffalocrocodilesanimalsBy: BobFrappleshttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701096
Damn... how did that calf survive?? Ganged up on by lions AND a croc!comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701096Tue, 22 May 2007 10:11:49 -0800BobFrapplesBy: Kokohttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701098
What, no sharks?comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701098Tue, 22 May 2007 10:12:13 -0800KokoBy: jmhodgeshttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701108
That calf is the Lazarus of Buffalo.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701108Tue, 22 May 2007 10:20:25 -0800jmhodgesBy: mnologyhttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701109
Fantastic.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701109Tue, 22 May 2007 10:20:54 -0800mnologyBy: peeedrohttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701113
The buzzards always win.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701113Tue, 22 May 2007 10:23:17 -0800peeedroBy: dead_http://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701135
Did anyone notice the alligator in the water? That was intense.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701135Tue, 22 May 2007 10:34:28 -0800dead_By: disgruntledhttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701136
Elated by the happy ending, the humans went back to the hotel's dining room and ordered the veal scaloppine.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701136Tue, 22 May 2007 10:34:49 -0800disgruntledBy: NationalKatohttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701142
In the end, only The Nuge wins.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701142Tue, 22 May 2007 10:37:16 -0800NationalKatoBy: gwinthttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701149
That was un-fucking-believable. Whoa.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701149Tue, 22 May 2007 10:41:01 -0800gwintBy: Brainyhttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701170
Wow. the way the buffalo came up with that plan was pretty amazing. I was really hoping for the croc to play a bigger role at the end...comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701170Tue, 22 May 2007 10:51:49 -0800BrainyBy: gcbvhttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701197
Incredible. The buffalo amassing into a charging wall was awesome.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701197Tue, 22 May 2007 11:06:52 -0800gcbvBy: fusinskihttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701203
The server seems kind of stressed... if it goes down entirely, here's the direct link to youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/v/LU8DDYz68kMcomment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701203Tue, 22 May 2007 11:10:05 -0800fusinskiBy: winks007http://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701251
THIS is why I have 13 discovery channels at home. To me, animals are way more interesting than people. It's really a jungle out there. We've got it pretty easy.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701251Tue, 22 May 2007 11:32:38 -0800winks007By: uni versehttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701275
Those looking for spoiler: Buffalo walk up nodding their head as if to say "bring it on!'
lions take calf, buff take it back by the equivalent of cold-cocking one of the ones standing guard. He flies about 15 feet. I missed the croc-hard to see.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701275Tue, 22 May 2007 11:47:26 -0800uni verseBy: iamckhttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701276
Huh. I kept waiting for the guy in the Nike shoes to come running by.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701276Tue, 22 May 2007 11:47:54 -0800iamckBy: kosemhttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701283
I'm glad to see Buffalo win <i>something</i>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701283Tue, 22 May 2007 11:51:55 -0800kosemBy: LooseFilterhttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701295
It was amazing to see how, after the herd made a decision to go back and get the calf, several of the members at the front of the herd's 'wall', freaked out and turned tail as soon as they were close to the lions--but several showed independence and challenged the lions directly. Wow. Great link, thanks.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701295Tue, 22 May 2007 11:56:13 -0800LooseFilterBy: maryhhttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701311
Poor lions. Carnivores gotta eat, too.
But those crocs can go straight to hell. Freeloaders!comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701311Tue, 22 May 2007 12:04:16 -0800maryhBy: j-urbhttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701386
The buffalo should have surrounded the lions and made them swim!comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701386Tue, 22 May 2007 12:46:34 -0800j-urbBy: vito90http://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701407
AMAZING!comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701407Tue, 22 May 2007 12:53:12 -0800vito90By: vronskyhttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701424
Very cool find.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701424Tue, 22 May 2007 13:06:57 -0800vronskyBy: CGhttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701442
<strong>Lion Leader:</strong> You buffalo are good. Real good.
<strong>Buffalo:</strong> The best.
Great video, but I was hoping they'd chase the lions into the water too.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701442Tue, 22 May 2007 13:14:45 -0800CGBy: bunnytrickshttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701504
The counterattack by the buffalo demonstrates intelligence enough to make me reconsider eating burgers. Best single link youtube post ever.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701504Tue, 22 May 2007 13:56:11 -0800bunnytricksBy: hifiparasolhttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701538
I was hoping the buffalo would chase one of the lions into the water, where it would be attacked by a crocodile.
Man, ancient Romans would <i>piss</i> if they had YouTube.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701538Tue, 22 May 2007 14:23:19 -0800hifiparasolBy: kirkarachahttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701557
Bad day: you're the rope in a tug-of-war between a crocodile and a pride of lions.
Good day: you walk away.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701557Tue, 22 May 2007 14:41:48 -0800kirkarachaBy: brundleflyhttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701603
Jesus H. Christ, that's insane. It seems like it must be pretty rare for prey animals to display that kind of initiative/intelligence. Am I wrong about that?
Great post!comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701603Tue, 22 May 2007 15:17:42 -0800brundleflyBy: BrotherCainehttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701610
The server went down for me, and I had to watch it on this <a href="http://www.youtube.com/p.swf?video_id=LU8DDYz68kM&eurl=http%3A//www.google.com/search%3Fq%3Dbattle-at-kruger%26ie%3Dutf-8%26oe%3Dutf-8%26aq%3Dt%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial%&iurl=http%3A//img.youtube.com/vi/LU8DDYz68kM/2.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskLNDSu9it-eckk7avcNdQd7">google video link</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701610Tue, 22 May 2007 15:28:33 -0800BrotherCaineBy: donovanhttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701639
Just awesome!comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701639Tue, 22 May 2007 15:57:11 -0800donovanBy: otherwordlyglowhttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701642
Really, really awesome!comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701642Tue, 22 May 2007 15:59:18 -0800otherwordlyglowBy: tkchristhttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701655
Self Defense Rules of Nature:
When in doubt—attack. And. NEVER negotiate a hostage crisis.
What a microcosm. That video went from simple predation to a surprise opportunistic tug of war between like combatants. The crocodile had a superior advantage in surprise and range/position (IE: water) so much so that it could take a pride of lions completely by surprise mid hunt. IF it could drive them to it's environment it would be eating buffalo and the lions would still get curb stomped by the herd.
Then it suddenly spun to a hostage crisis a where the buffaloes did not negotiate or hesitate as expected - swarmed and attacked the lions splintering the unit cohesion of the predators.
And then it ended with an ego stand off when a member of losing side couldn't except defeat.
Also note the one lion, second to last, was wounded by the Croc. Why it stayed put for so long. Got to give to it's buddy for hanging tight so long with her. Never leave a sister behind.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701655Tue, 22 May 2007 16:04:51 -0800tkchristBy: strawberryviagrahttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1701865
<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/45730/Cow-1-Dogs-0#1069840">Here's your shark</a> and croc angle.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1701865Tue, 22 May 2007 19:00:32 -0800strawberryviagraBy: eye of newthttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1702039
I guess the moral is to stick together and don't give up.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1702039Tue, 22 May 2007 22:11:52 -0800eye of newtBy: davidmschttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1702040
Amazing video. Yes, I realize that the lions need to eat, and that the "circle of life" must continue -- but it sure did feel good to see the buffalo come back to rescue one of their own. Score one for the buffs!comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1702040Tue, 22 May 2007 22:13:20 -0800davidmscBy: moonbiterhttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1702094
**** Interesting change of pace: A nature film where the little herbivore actually survives, saving parents everywhere the task of comforting their crying children with the bitter words of "that's how nature is, honey." Three cheers for the screenwriters!
<small>The camera work could have been better, though. :grumble:</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1702094Wed, 23 May 2007 00:53:44 -0800moonbiterBy: flapjax at midnitehttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1702105
That was totally riveting.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1702105Wed, 23 May 2007 01:56:13 -0800flapjax at midniteBy: Civil_Disobedienthttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1702134
Yes, hooray for the buffalo. But remember this: there were about ten times as many buffalo as lions, and they each have a significant size advantage. You can get a sense for just how much a buffalo can p0wn a lion in the video when the bull catches one lion under his horns and sends him spinning five feet in the air. Multiply that times a hundred. The really amazing thing is that they weren't more aggressive sooner.
<i>Self Defense Rules of Nature</i>
More like, <i>how to deal with bullies</i>. Step one: just take it. Step two: run away. Step three: amass numbers. Step four: counterattack.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1702134Wed, 23 May 2007 03:43:04 -0800Civil_DisobedientBy: flapjax at midnitehttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1702143
<i>The really amazing thing is that they weren't more aggressive sooner.</i>
Civil_Disobediant: That thought crossed my mind as well, but I chalked it up to how much time it perhaps took to get your crucial Step 3 together. Amassing the numbers. Might've been a lot of apathetic buffalo at first, who really had to get a good pep talk before they'd commit to going up against the big cats.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1702143Wed, 23 May 2007 04:25:13 -0800flapjax at midniteBy: unSanehttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1702179
That would be a <i>wounded</i> pride of lions, no?comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1702179Wed, 23 May 2007 05:16:45 -0800unSaneBy: flapjax at midnitehttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1702188
That's what I <i>herd</i> from the buffalo.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1702188Wed, 23 May 2007 05:25:07 -0800flapjax at midniteBy: thirteenkillerhttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1702208
O Hello, first instance of this video being posted to Metafilter.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1702208Wed, 23 May 2007 05:41:42 -0800thirteenkillerBy: flapjax at midnitehttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1702218
Woke up this morning, had those pride o' lions blues
Woke up this morning, had those pride o' lions blues
Then up out the water come a crocodile,
An' honey he was bitin' me too!comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1702218Wed, 23 May 2007 05:52:55 -0800flapjax at midniteBy: empathhttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1702425
Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo crocadile buffalo buffalo lions.
Chicken Chicken.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1702425Wed, 23 May 2007 08:33:48 -0800empathBy: Mickhttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1702617
Later several lions and the baby buffalo died from infected wounds, the buzzards ate well.
<em>The circle of life!</em>comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1702617Wed, 23 May 2007 10:51:15 -0800MickBy: CitrusFreak12http://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1702765
Epic.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1702765Wed, 23 May 2007 12:41:48 -0800CitrusFreak12By: strawberryviagrahttp://www.metafilter.com/61399/Wild-Kingdom-face-off-lions-vs-buffalo-vs-crocs#1703481
Tits.comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.61399-1703481Thu, 24 May 2007 05:22:38 -0800strawberryviagra