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Randoor
7:17am Mon 7 Apr 14

I do hope that the judge is not persuaded by Ms Ryves in her plea to save this dogs life.
The dog has attacked other dogs , attacked people and clearly is a dangerous dog therefore must be destroyed .
People must be made aware that ownership of any animal is a huge responsibility and any failure to control , train , or to protect others from coming in to contact with their animals must face the full force of the law when things in this particular case have clearly gone very wrong on more than one occasion.

I do hope that the judge is not persuaded by Ms Ryves in her plea to save this dogs life.
The dog has attacked other dogs , attacked people and clearly is a dangerous dog therefore must be destroyed .
People must be made aware that ownership of any animal is a huge responsibility and any failure to control , train , or to protect others from coming in to contact with their animals must face the full force of the law when things in this particular case have clearly gone very wrong on more than one occasion.Randoor

I do hope that the judge is not persuaded by Ms Ryves in her plea to save this dogs life.
The dog has attacked other dogs , attacked people and clearly is a dangerous dog therefore must be destroyed .
People must be made aware that ownership of any animal is a huge responsibility and any failure to control , train , or to protect others from coming in to contact with their animals must face the full force of the law when things in this particular case have clearly gone very wrong on more than one occasion.

Score: 21

bigfella777
7:25am Mon 7 Apr 14

Why is the dog wearing a tiara? Is that supposed to make it look cute or something? You can see by its face that it is not a happy dog.

Why is the dog wearing a tiara? Is that supposed to make it look cute or something? You can see by its face that it is not a happy dog.bigfella777

Why is the dog wearing a tiara? Is that supposed to make it look cute or something? You can see by its face that it is not a happy dog.

Score: 9

sotonwinch09
9:00am Mon 7 Apr 14

Nice looking family..

Nice looking family..sotonwinch09

Nice looking family..

Score: 0

Suntanned Snowman
9:04am Mon 7 Apr 14

If that dog is allowed to live it will be an insult to the owners of the dogs which have been attacked.

If that dog is allowed to live it will be an insult to the owners of the dogs which have been attacked.Suntanned Snowman

If that dog is allowed to live it will be an insult to the owners of the dogs which have been attacked.

Score: 13

justaSaintsfan
9:06am Mon 7 Apr 14

Randoor wrote…

I do hope that the judge is not persuaded by Ms Ryves in her plea to save this dogs life.
The dog has attacked other dogs , attacked people and clearly is a dangerous dog therefore must be destroyed .
People must be made aware that ownership of any animal is a huge responsibility and any failure to control , train , or to protect others from coming in to contact with their animals must face the full force of the law when things in this particular case have clearly gone very wrong on more than one occasion.

If the dog has attacked only other dogs and not people, it is a dog that needs training in how it should interact with other dogs. Keeping the dog away from other dogs would also prevent its behavioural problem.

The owner of the dog is heavily pregnant and also has five children. She is obviously not in a position to have the time and possibly not the money for involving expert dog training.

My opinion is that only if the dog has never attacked any people, it might be taken away from its owner and rehomed with a more suitable owner, able to keep it away from other dogs, who would have the time and inclination to get it some expert training.

If the dog has not attacked any people, I think the problem is an irresponsible owner!

[quote][p][bold]Randoor[/bold] wrote:
I do hope that the judge is not persuaded by Ms Ryves in her plea to save this dogs life.
The dog has attacked other dogs , attacked people and clearly is a dangerous dog therefore must be destroyed .
People must be made aware that ownership of any animal is a huge responsibility and any failure to control , train , or to protect others from coming in to contact with their animals must face the full force of the law when things in this particular case have clearly gone very wrong on more than one occasion.[/p][/quote]You are wrong!
The Daily Echo article makes absolutely no mention of this particular dog attacking people. No mention whatsoever.
If the dog has attacked only other dogs and not people, it is a dog that needs training in how it should interact with other dogs. Keeping the dog away from other dogs would also prevent its behavioural problem.
The owner of the dog is heavily pregnant and also has five children. She is obviously not in a position to have the time and possibly not the money for involving expert dog training.
My opinion is that only if the dog has never attacked any people, it might be taken away from its owner and rehomed with a more suitable owner, able to keep it away from other dogs, who would have the time and inclination to get it some expert training.
If the dog has not attacked any people, I think the problem is an irresponsible owner!justaSaintsfan

Randoor wrote…

I do hope that the judge is not persuaded by Ms Ryves in her plea to save this dogs life.
The dog has attacked other dogs , attacked people and clearly is a dangerous dog therefore must be destroyed .
People must be made aware that ownership of any animal is a huge responsibility and any failure to control , train , or to protect others from coming in to contact with their animals must face the full force of the law when things in this particular case have clearly gone very wrong on more than one occasion.

If the dog has attacked only other dogs and not people, it is a dog that needs training in how it should interact with other dogs. Keeping the dog away from other dogs would also prevent its behavioural problem.

The owner of the dog is heavily pregnant and also has five children. She is obviously not in a position to have the time and possibly not the money for involving expert dog training.

My opinion is that only if the dog has never attacked any people, it might be taken away from its owner and rehomed with a more suitable owner, able to keep it away from other dogs, who would have the time and inclination to get it some expert training.

If the dog has not attacked any people, I think the problem is an irresponsible owner!

Score: -5

huckit P
9:16am Mon 7 Apr 14

Isn't it strange that when a dog bits something or someone there are immediate calls for the dog to be put down? Yet when a human attacks something or someone the calls are very different.
It is apparent that the current owner is unable to control the dog, so I agree with another post that the dog should go to a more suitable home for the correct level of training.
If the current owner was able to properly look after the dog what would be wrong with making an order for it to wear a muzzel whenever it was outside the house? That would save the dogs life and sort the problem.
My dog has been bitten by other dogs but I never once considered asking that they be put down.

Isn't it strange that when a dog bits something or someone there are immediate calls for the dog to be put down? Yet when a human attacks something or someone the calls are very different.
It is apparent that the current owner is unable to control the dog, so I agree with another post that the dog should go to a more suitable home for the correct level of training.
If the current owner was able to properly look after the dog what would be wrong with making an order for it to wear a muzzel whenever it was outside the house? That would save the dogs life and sort the problem.
My dog has been bitten by other dogs but I never once considered asking that they be put down.huckit P

Isn't it strange that when a dog bits something or someone there are immediate calls for the dog to be put down? Yet when a human attacks something or someone the calls are very different.
It is apparent that the current owner is unable to control the dog, so I agree with another post that the dog should go to a more suitable home for the correct level of training.
If the current owner was able to properly look after the dog what would be wrong with making an order for it to wear a muzzel whenever it was outside the house? That would save the dogs life and sort the problem.
My dog has been bitten by other dogs but I never once considered asking that they be put down.

Score: 2

Vince83
9:34am Mon 7 Apr 14

Justasaintsfan - think you will find that in the previous report it has said that the dog attacked a woman. Being someone petrified who will actually walk on the other side of the road to avoid any dog no matter how big or small and seen a young girl have her face bitten by a 'kind, caring, family dog' that was owned by a neighbour therefore known to her and the owners agreed that it was best that the dog destroyed immediately after the event, i feel that this dog may have already been given too many chances! You also have to think how the other dog owners feel when their dog is attacked and the vet bills they are faced with as a result! A muzzle may stop attacks in public but this may cause the dog to turn on the children in the family eventually surely?

Justasaintsfan - think you will find that in the previous report it has said that the dog attacked a woman. Being someone petrified who will actually walk on the other side of the road to avoid any dog no matter how big or small and seen a young girl have her face bitten by a 'kind, caring, family dog' that was owned by a neighbour therefore known to her and the owners agreed that it was best that the dog destroyed immediately after the event, i feel that this dog may have already been given too many chances! You also have to think how the other dog owners feel when their dog is attacked and the vet bills they are faced with as a result! A muzzle may stop attacks in public but this may cause the dog to turn on the children in the family eventually surely?Vince83

Justasaintsfan - think you will find that in the previous report it has said that the dog attacked a woman. Being someone petrified who will actually walk on the other side of the road to avoid any dog no matter how big or small and seen a young girl have her face bitten by a 'kind, caring, family dog' that was owned by a neighbour therefore known to her and the owners agreed that it was best that the dog destroyed immediately after the event, i feel that this dog may have already been given too many chances! You also have to think how the other dog owners feel when their dog is attacked and the vet bills they are faced with as a result! A muzzle may stop attacks in public but this may cause the dog to turn on the children in the family eventually surely?

Score: 10

AndyAndrews
9:39am Mon 7 Apr 14

It's a proven dangerous breed with a record of attacking other dogs. Put it down before it moves on to children.

It's a proven dangerous breed with a record of attacking other dogs. Put it down before it moves on to children.AndyAndrews

It's a proven dangerous breed with a record of attacking other dogs. Put it down before it moves on to children.

Score: 0

Somnambulism
9:50am Mon 7 Apr 14

Vince83 wrote…

Justasaintsfan - think you will find that in the previous report it has said that the dog attacked a woman. Being someone petrified who will actually walk on the other side of the road to avoid any dog no matter how big or small and seen a young girl have her face bitten by a 'kind, caring, family dog' that was owned by a neighbour therefore known to her and the owners agreed that it was best that the dog destroyed immediately after the event, i feel that this dog may have already been given too many chances! You also have to think how the other dog owners feel when their dog is attacked and the vet bills they are faced with as a result! A muzzle may stop attacks in public but this may cause the dog to turn on the children in the family eventually surely?

Wrong. Quote from the previous report: "the dog escaped from the property again and attacked another dog in August last year. A woman was left with a scratched face and injured foot in this incident."

Where does it say that dog the attacked the woman? The dog was attacking another dog, the woman tried to stop it and got injured in the process. I've ended up with minor injuries through protecting my dog from being attacked - it's not pleasant but it certainly doesn't mean that the dogs in question were a danger to humans! If Keizer had actually attacked a person, this would have been explictly stated.

[quote][p][bold]Vince83[/bold] wrote:
Justasaintsfan - think you will find that in the previous report it has said that the dog attacked a woman. Being someone petrified who will actually walk on the other side of the road to avoid any dog no matter how big or small and seen a young girl have her face bitten by a 'kind, caring, family dog' that was owned by a neighbour therefore known to her and the owners agreed that it was best that the dog destroyed immediately after the event, i feel that this dog may have already been given too many chances! You also have to think how the other dog owners feel when their dog is attacked and the vet bills they are faced with as a result! A muzzle may stop attacks in public but this may cause the dog to turn on the children in the family eventually surely?[/p][/quote]Wrong. Quote from the previous report: "the dog escaped from the property again and attacked another dog in August last year. A woman was left with a scratched face and injured foot in this incident."
Where does it say that dog the attacked the woman? The dog was attacking another dog, the woman tried to stop it and got injured in the process. I've ended up with minor injuries through protecting my dog from being attacked - it's not pleasant but it certainly doesn't mean that the dogs in question were a danger to humans! If Keizer had actually attacked a person, this would have been explictly stated.Somnambulism

Vince83 wrote…

Justasaintsfan - think you will find that in the previous report it has said that the dog attacked a woman. Being someone petrified who will actually walk on the other side of the road to avoid any dog no matter how big or small and seen a young girl have her face bitten by a 'kind, caring, family dog' that was owned by a neighbour therefore known to her and the owners agreed that it was best that the dog destroyed immediately after the event, i feel that this dog may have already been given too many chances! You also have to think how the other dog owners feel when their dog is attacked and the vet bills they are faced with as a result! A muzzle may stop attacks in public but this may cause the dog to turn on the children in the family eventually surely?

Wrong. Quote from the previous report: "the dog escaped from the property again and attacked another dog in August last year. A woman was left with a scratched face and injured foot in this incident."

Where does it say that dog the attacked the woman? The dog was attacking another dog, the woman tried to stop it and got injured in the process. I've ended up with minor injuries through protecting my dog from being attacked - it's not pleasant but it certainly doesn't mean that the dogs in question were a danger to humans! If Keizer had actually attacked a person, this would have been explictly stated.

Score: 1

Vince83
10:04am Mon 7 Apr 14

to be fair it doesnt say how the woman ended up with the injuries -

'The court heard how Keizer attacked a Jack Russell causing it leg injuries in June last year, Ms Ryves had said she would|rehome the dog so no action was taken, but then the dog escaped from the property again and attacked another dog in August last year.

A woman was left with a scratched face and injured foot in this incident'

Regardless of whether or not the dog went for the woman, a person was still injured. What about if it had been a youngster walking the dog and went to the natural defence of their dog when being attacked and ended up in a worse position than a grown woman as a result?

As the end of the day the owner promised to rehome the dog but hasnt bothered. Not a suitable owner it seems. Maybe if the dog had been given a new home then it wouldnt have its life hanging in the balance but i am a firm believer that once a dog has attacked it is in its nature and dogs are unpredictable at the best of times so maybe quitting whilst ahead here is the best course of action before someone really gets hurt or has to put their dog down as a result of the injuries caused.

to be fair it doesnt say how the woman ended up with the injuries -
'The court heard how Keizer attacked a Jack Russell causing it leg injuries in June last year, Ms Ryves had said she would|rehome the dog so no action was taken, but then the dog escaped from the property again and attacked another dog in August last year.
A woman was left with a scratched face and injured foot in this incident'
Regardless of whether or not the dog went for the woman, a person was still injured. What about if it had been a youngster walking the dog and went to the natural defence of their dog when being attacked and ended up in a worse position than a grown woman as a result?
As the end of the day the owner promised to rehome the dog but hasnt bothered. Not a suitable owner it seems. Maybe if the dog had been given a new home then it wouldnt have its life hanging in the balance but i am a firm believer that once a dog has attacked it is in its nature and dogs are unpredictable at the best of times so maybe quitting whilst ahead here is the best course of action before someone really gets hurt or has to put their dog down as a result of the injuries caused.Vince83

to be fair it doesnt say how the woman ended up with the injuries -

'The court heard how Keizer attacked a Jack Russell causing it leg injuries in June last year, Ms Ryves had said she would|rehome the dog so no action was taken, but then the dog escaped from the property again and attacked another dog in August last year.

A woman was left with a scratched face and injured foot in this incident'

Regardless of whether or not the dog went for the woman, a person was still injured. What about if it had been a youngster walking the dog and went to the natural defence of their dog when being attacked and ended up in a worse position than a grown woman as a result?

As the end of the day the owner promised to rehome the dog but hasnt bothered. Not a suitable owner it seems. Maybe if the dog had been given a new home then it wouldnt have its life hanging in the balance but i am a firm believer that once a dog has attacked it is in its nature and dogs are unpredictable at the best of times so maybe quitting whilst ahead here is the best course of action before someone really gets hurt or has to put their dog down as a result of the injuries caused.

Score: 11

93Brandon
10:06am Mon 7 Apr 14

PUT THE DOG DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!

And the Staffordshire bull terrier.

PUT THE DOG DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!
And the Staffordshire bull terrier.93Brandon

PUT THE DOG DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!

And the Staffordshire bull terrier.

Score: 7

St.Winch70
11:51am Mon 7 Apr 14

I'd rather see a Staffy cull than a badger cull. Too many of these animals available to the wrong type of dog owner. They are becoming an intrinsic part of a social blight. (I also wouldn't be averse to a cull of some of these 'dog owners' to boot)

I'd rather see a Staffy cull than a badger cull. Too many of these animals available to the wrong type of dog owner. They are becoming an intrinsic part of a social blight. (I also wouldn't be averse to a cull of some of these 'dog owners' to boot)St.Winch70

I'd rather see a Staffy cull than a badger cull. Too many of these animals available to the wrong type of dog owner. They are becoming an intrinsic part of a social blight. (I also wouldn't be averse to a cull of some of these 'dog owners' to boot)

Score: 8

camerajuan
6:45pm Mon 7 Apr 14

If the dog wasn't a serious threat, they wouldn't be considering this action. Plain and simple. However it came to be like this is irrelevant now, what is relevant is that its a savage with little control by itself or its master. Rehoming it won't help. Damage is done. Animals aren't humans so you can't compare the two.

If the dog wasn't a serious threat, they wouldn't be considering this action. Plain and simple. However it came to be like this is irrelevant now, what is relevant is that its a savage with little control by itself or its master. Rehoming it won't help. Damage is done. Animals aren't humans so you can't compare the two.camerajuan

If the dog wasn't a serious threat, they wouldn't be considering this action. Plain and simple. However it came to be like this is irrelevant now, what is relevant is that its a savage with little control by itself or its master. Rehoming it won't help. Damage is done. Animals aren't humans so you can't compare the two.

Score: 1

IronLady2010
7:44pm Mon 7 Apr 14

So what was the outcome, or was the owner too sick to attend Court?

So what was the outcome, or was the owner too sick to attend Court?IronLady2010

So what was the outcome, or was the owner too sick to attend Court?

Score: 1

millie 20z
9:51pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Looks like she has enough on her hands, I own a staffy whos 12 now but if she ever attacked human or animal id have her put down, it sounds harsh but a dog knows right and wrong and they can turn shes putting her kids at risk, its a sad ending but it would be worse if a child got hurt, she should of been responsible enough to secure her garden even buy a 20ft metal stake out lead theres ways round it I use a stake lead when the gate is open... put the dog down or hand it to someone responsible she needs to concentrate on her kids not a dog with behavioural issues

Looks like she has enough on her hands, I own a staffy whos 12 now but if she ever attacked human or animal id have her put down, it sounds harsh but a dog knows right and wrong and they can turn shes putting her kids at risk, its a sad ending but it would be worse if a child got hurt, she should of been responsible enough to secure her garden even buy a 20ft metal stake out lead theres ways round it I use a stake lead when the gate is open... put the dog down or hand it to someone responsible she needs to concentrate on her kids not a dog with behavioural issuesmillie 20z

Looks like she has enough on her hands, I own a staffy whos 12 now but if she ever attacked human or animal id have her put down, it sounds harsh but a dog knows right and wrong and they can turn shes putting her kids at risk, its a sad ending but it would be worse if a child got hurt, she should of been responsible enough to secure her garden even buy a 20ft metal stake out lead theres ways round it I use a stake lead when the gate is open... put the dog down or hand it to someone responsible she needs to concentrate on her kids not a dog with behavioural issues

Score: 0

Charlie Bucket
8:41am Tue 8 Apr 14

millie 20z wrote…

Looks like she has enough on her hands, I own a staffy whos 12 now but if she ever attacked human or animal id have her put down, it sounds harsh but a dog knows right and wrong and they can turn shes putting her kids at risk, its a sad ending but it would be worse if a child got hurt, she should of been responsible enough to secure her garden even buy a 20ft metal stake out lead theres ways round it I use a stake lead when the gate is open... put the dog down or hand it to someone responsible she needs to concentrate on her kids not a dog with behavioural issues

A dog doesn't know right or wrong at all. Don't be ludicrous. These are human constructs. You may as well claim dogs know the 12 times table, or Pythagoras Theorem.

[quote][p][bold]millie 20z[/bold] wrote:
Looks like she has enough on her hands, I own a staffy whos 12 now but if she ever attacked human or animal id have her put down, it sounds harsh but a dog knows right and wrong and they can turn shes putting her kids at risk, its a sad ending but it would be worse if a child got hurt, she should of been responsible enough to secure her garden even buy a 20ft metal stake out lead theres ways round it I use a stake lead when the gate is open... put the dog down or hand it to someone responsible she needs to concentrate on her kids not a dog with behavioural issues[/p][/quote]A dog doesn't know right or wrong at all. Don't be ludicrous. These are human constructs. You may as well claim dogs know the 12 times table, or Pythagoras Theorem.Charlie Bucket

millie 20z wrote…

Looks like she has enough on her hands, I own a staffy whos 12 now but if she ever attacked human or animal id have her put down, it sounds harsh but a dog knows right and wrong and they can turn shes putting her kids at risk, its a sad ending but it would be worse if a child got hurt, she should of been responsible enough to secure her garden even buy a 20ft metal stake out lead theres ways round it I use a stake lead when the gate is open... put the dog down or hand it to someone responsible she needs to concentrate on her kids not a dog with behavioural issues

A dog doesn't know right or wrong at all. Don't be ludicrous. These are human constructs. You may as well claim dogs know the 12 times table, or Pythagoras Theorem.

Score: 0

daisy.talks
9:52pm Fri 11 Apr 14

The owner needs to get in touch with the DDA, being a bully owner she should know her rights and the 'stigma' around the breed, keep them safe and be responsible. I hope the dog gets the offer of a new home, you can modify the dogs behaviour, muzzle training is also invaluable. There is NO WAY this dog should be allowed back home, they cannot give a dog basic training and introduce a dog to others correctly, how will they cope with a new baby too? https://www.facebook
.com/DDAWatch?fref=t
s

The owner needs to get in touch with the DDA, being a bully owner she should know her rights and the 'stigma' around the breed, keep them safe and be responsible. I hope the dog gets the offer of a new home, you can modify the dogs behaviour, muzzle training is also invaluable. There is NO WAY this dog should be allowed back home, they cannot give a dog basic training and introduce a dog to others correctly, how will they cope with a new baby too? https://www.facebook
.com/DDAWatch?fref=t
sdaisy.talks

The owner needs to get in touch with the DDA, being a bully owner she should know her rights and the 'stigma' around the breed, keep them safe and be responsible. I hope the dog gets the offer of a new home, you can modify the dogs behaviour, muzzle training is also invaluable. There is NO WAY this dog should be allowed back home, they cannot give a dog basic training and introduce a dog to others correctly, how will they cope with a new baby too? https://www.facebook
.com/DDAWatch?fref=t
s

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