I miss the olde days of the Soviet block vs. USA - chinese are kicking our ass everywhere

ricardisimo

07-30-2012, 05:09 AM

Much needed thread. Thank you. Moving to the Sports Dimension.

tony hipchest

07-30-2012, 12:46 PM

I miss the olde days of the Soviet block vs. USA - chinese are kicking our ass everywherei know... i even watched ladies ping pong yesterday hoping for an upset win.

we still got basketball and track and field to catch up (maybe gymnastics). china usually has a good shot in diving.

Fire Haley

07-30-2012, 02:27 PM

Olympics outrage: Should Jordyn Wieber be in the all-around final?

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Criticism mounts after favorite Jordyn Wieber failed to qualify for the all-around final at the Olympics despite a solid performance. Rules allow only two American gymnasts in the final.

How could Ms. Wieber, the 2011 all-around world champion – who even on an off day Sunday finished fourth in the qualification round – not make an Olympic all-around final of 24 girls? Put another way: Twenty-one girls who scored lower than her on Sunday – will be competing Thursday in the event that defines the careers of the world’s best gymnasts.

Wieber reached the top of her game when she was only 10. As an eighth grader in 2009, she won the all-around at the American Cup. Since then, Wieber has only ever lost twice in competition and only to Americans.

Wieber erupted into tears as soon as she caught sight of the scoreboard, covering her eyes in vain. To make matters worse, NBC later interviewed Raisman in front of Wieber as Wieber struggled to maintain her composure. Let’s just say that those awkward hugs the girls give each other after completing an event are going to get a tad more uncomfortable come Tuesday.

The spectacle prompted a discussion about the fairness of the Olympic rule that limits each country to two gymnasts in the all-around finals. (Wieber had the fourth-best individual all-around score, but she trailed fellow Americans, Raisman and Gabrielle Douglas).

Tricks to avoid getting Wieber'd

Even before 2004, when the per-team limit was three, the top countries performed their own special brand of gymnastics – with their lineups – to ensure their top girls didn't get Wieber'd

In 1992, one of the three all-around finalists for the Russian Unified team suffered an injury (gasp!), conveniently allowing their top gymnast, who fell on the beam and finished fourth on the team in the qualification round, to enter the all-around. She won gold, and it was later confirmed that the injury was a complete fabrication.

Four years later, when the same thing happened to the best Romanian gymnast, the coaches simply pulled one of their top three finishers, saying she "didn't work hard enough."

Surely, the US would never consider claiming that Ms. Douglas or Ms. Raisman had an "injury" to get Wieber into the final.

It wasn't just that 16-year-old Ye, who was funneled into China's athletics system at age 7 when one of her teachers noted that she had unusually big hands and long legs, won the 400 IM, besting the United States's Elizabeth Beisel. It wasn't just that she set a new world record of 4:28.43 in the process, shattering Stephanie Rice's prior time by over a full second. (Rice, by the way, was the beneficiary of a surprise visit from Kobe Bryant late last week, who stopped by the Australian team's practice to ask her to sign a swim cap for his fangirl daughter. He gave her a pair of his shoes. This all happened.)

No, it was the way she finished the race that left everyone gaping. She went fast, and then she went faster, and then she somehow went even faster still. Here's how fast she was going: Her last lap, 50 meters of freestyle, was faster than Ryan Lochte's last lap in his gold-winning 400 IM, 28.93 to 29.10. (Her final 100 split of 58.68 was just three-hundredths of a second slower than what Lochte swam.)...:jawdrop:

In sports, there are exactly four times when an Overt Display of Righteous Fury (O-DORF) is appropriate...

Here's the main time it's not appropriate — when you've just won....

You've probably guessed that I'm thinking now of Chinese swimmer Sun Yang, who won the 400-meter freestyle gold, screamed in a way that felt really confrontational for a few seconds, and punched the water aggressively. It made me hate him. And, for the record, "'roid rage" is maybe not the best mode of celebration when you come from a country with a long history of institutional cheating.

(In case you couldn't tell, I'm not a big fan of Team China):chuckle:

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The French swimmer who took down Lochte in the men's relay last night won again today. Perhaps cunning Team China is sharing some of its PEDs with the treacherous French?.

I hate Commies, but those were good times. I remember the excitement of the 1980 Winter Games and the "Miracle on Ice."

chinese are kicking our ass everywhere

Cheating bastards. I haven't forgotten they cheated in gymnastics at the 2008 Games. Just sayin'.

rgj

07-31-2012, 05:35 AM

Was watching the NBC (the video was "live") last night on the men's gymnastics. Now I know absolutely nothing of the rules and regulations as to the scoring, but I got the general gist that if one falls off the horse, bars, steps out-of-bounds, etc, some points are taken away.

This is what I saw last night. The team from Great Britain appeared to win the Silver medal (when the final Japanese athlete kind of "slid" off the pommel horse, receiving a low score). This gave the Bronze to the Ukraine and knocked the Japanese out of the medal awards. Quick camera change to a Japanese coach filling out a form and WITH CASH IN HIS LEFT HAND, appealed the scoring to the judges.....the commentators noticed, and one commentator said, "What??" The others went along and said some drivel about it being part of the procedure....to make a long story short, the judges determined the Japanese athlete (in sliding off the horse for his dismount) "went through" the motions of the required "handstand" and revised his score upwards, which then changed Team Japan's score, giving Japan the Silver, the Brits the Bronze, and knocked the Ukraine team out of the medal awards.

I know the scoring for any event relying on "judges" has been suspect for years and the Japanese coaches "offering" cash along with their appeal smacks of something horribly wrong.

Did anyone else see that? Is THAT the way these events are judged??

Fire Haley

07-31-2012, 08:36 AM

I know the scoring for any event relying on "judges" has been suspect for years and the Japanese coaches "offering" cash along with their appeal smacks of something horribly wrong.

Did anyone else see that? Is THAT the way these events are judged??

actually that was the payment for the protest form to be filed - that part was normal

watching our crying sissy men's team crumble under the pressure and choke away any possible medal possibility right outta the gate was worse

Ye Shiwen possesses that same masculine, almost wall-like figure; the same impossibly wide shoulders and huge, rounded thighs; the same armchair-leg calves.... Ye, though barely out of adolescence, appears androgynous....

Her mother insists she and her husband, a manual worker, had always impressed on her that ‘results are not important, but you should always enjoy the taking part’. One doubts she dares voice this opinion in the presence of her daughter’s coaches.

In swimming, as in most other Olympic sports, they enforce a regime so relentlessly harsh that it has been compared, by those few Western observers who have managed to penetrate the obsessive secrecy with which it is guarded, to that in some 19th-century prisons....

At seven she could already perform 20 chin-ups - an exercise beyond the capability of most fit adults. She swims every day for several hours - only getting a break when the pool ‘needs cleaning’ according to one of her coaches, Wei Wei.

She will also have been drilled remorselessly in the niceties that can make a difference in big competition: keeping a fixed facial expression, behaving impeccably in view of the judges, showing no weakness or pain. Her only consolation is that her diet will be far more nourishing than that of an ordinary Chinese teenager.

Food and legal supplements apart, though, the question gnaws away — is she being propelled by some other, more sinister fuel?

Recalling the triumph of 1996 in Atlanta, the U.S. women's gymnastics team wins the team gold medal at the London Olympics, beating second-place Russia by a whopping 5.066 points

Romania took the team bronze, and the defending champion Chinese were sobbing on the sidelines, a badly beaten fourth.

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U.S. gymnasts (from left to right) Jordyn Wieber, Gabrielle Douglas, McKayla Maroney, Alexandra Raisman and Kyla Ross celebrate their gold-medal victory in the women's team competition at the London Olympic Games on Tuesday

Team China once again brings dishonor into play - this time tainting the great sport of badminton

Four doubles teams were disqualified from the London Games earlier in the day after trying to lose matches to receive a more favorable place in the tournament. The Badminton World Federation punished the eight players after investigating two teams from South Korea and one each from China and Indonesia. South Korea and Indonesia appealed, but China accepted the federation's decision.

Team China presumably accepted its disqualification since its tradition of cheating is well known to all, as explained below. Team China's cheating apparently gave South Korea and Indonesia no alternative to cheating as well.

Before the decision was announced, Indonesia Olympic team leader Erick Thohir accused Chinese players of losing on purpose in the past.

"China has been doing this so many times and they never get sanctioned by the BWF," Thohir said. "On the first game yesterday when China did it, the BWF didn't do anything. If the BWF do something on the first game and they say you are disqualified, it is a warning for everyone."[/I]...

[I]Beijing badminton silver medalist Gail Emms said the matches were embarrassing to watch.

"It was absolutely shocking," she said. "The crowds were booing and chanting 'Off, off, off.'"

Team China should be told to leave the Olympics now - if only Roger Goodell ran the Olympics:mad:

Bayz101

08-01-2012, 12:30 PM

No! Dammit. That's a terrible idea. James Harrison will be broke in a month! :sofunny:

Lady Steel

08-01-2012, 10:46 PM

Team China once again brings dishonor into play - this time tainting the great sport of badminton

[I]Four doubles teams were disqualified from the London Games earlier in the day after trying to lose matches to receive a more favorable place in the tournament.

Reminds me of the New England Patriots. :chuckle:

Team China should be told to leave the Olympics now. :mad:

China should have been immediately ousted and banned or given some type of sanctions regarding future Olympic Games, but the Commie Chinese would probably have Olympic officials executed. Cheaters.

tony hipchest

08-02-2012, 12:31 AM

[I]At seven she could already perform 20 chin-ups - an exercise beyond the capability of most fit adults. She swims every day for several hours - only getting a break when the pool ‘needs cleaning’ according to one of her coaches, Wei Wei.

A player from a non-cheating country confirms the arrogance and dishonesty of Team China

Petya Nedelcheva, a Bulgarian player who was on an adjacent court at the time of the first match, said Chinese players routinely tried to avoid playing each other.

She said: ‘China control everything. I don’t know who controlled the match to lose but if it is China again, they did it so many times last year – they didn’t play against each other in 20 matches. They do what they want.’

The US women were relentless Thursday. The women's eight rowing team won their event, Kayla Harrison took judo gold, Gabby Douglas beat the Russians in the women's gymnastics all-around, and swimmer Rebecca Soni set a new world record in the women's 200-meter breaststroke.

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Once track and field starts and the medal count shifts, China will appeal USA's use of performance enhancing black people

:sofunny:

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NBC goes all tape delay after Water Polo nip-slip, as majority of Water Polo viewers not really into boobs

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After gold win, Chinese diver told grandparents died, mother has cancer. If she didn't win, would've only been told she has 3 days to live.

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Cheating badminton players apologize for halfheartedly working the shuttlecock.

:chuckle:

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Olympic officials shut down the aquatic center finding too much of Lochte's shit in the water.

:toofunny:

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Atlanta Dan

08-03-2012, 01:19 PM

so wrong but hilarious nontheless-

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Olympic officials shut down the aquatic center finding too much of Lochte's shit in the water.

:toofunny:

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After "failing" to win every racew he entered, pre-Olympics media darling and apparent meathead Ryan Lochte has become the official punching bag of the Olympics:chuckle:

•Michael Phelps out-dueled Ryan Lochte in the 200-meter individual medley to win his 16th Olympic gold and 20th medal overall. A heartbroken Lochte told reporters that he was really sad to finish second, since the other swimmers told him the gold medal is the only one with chocolate inside, and he still can't get the foil off of his 400 IM gold.

It only took one week to run out of the 70,000 condoms supplied to Olympic Village during the Sydney Olympic Games in 2000.

And during the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver, 100,000 condoms were ordered for the athletes, but that still was not quite enough. The frequent usage of the condoms is just one side effect of the wild, all-night parties that go down in the Olympic Village, which is supposedly a hotbed of sex, drugs and gold medals. Or at least, that is the claim made by the anonymous author of the new salacious tell-all The Secret Olympics. The author claims to be a former British Olympian himself, giving him firsthand experience to all the secret escapades that go down in the very private and heavily guarded village.

The official Olympic regulations state that alcohol and drugs are banned from the village during the competition; however, the author maintains that it is incredibly easy for the contestants to sneak booze and other drugs into the villages. According to the author, although many of the activities that go down in the village are not sanctioned, they are kept quiet as to not sully the reputable image of the Olympics.

It is not hard to understand why so many condoms are needed during this 17-day competition. The village itself is its own Mt. Olympus, filled with our version of the gods: healthy, incredibly fit athletes in their prime.

Olympic Village Condoms: Why Ryan Lochte Needs More Than 100,000
http://www.policymic.com/articles/12223/olympic-village-condoms-why-ryan-lochte-needs-more-than-100-000
For anyone wondering why the Olympic Village needs 100,000 condoms, Ryan Lochte’s mom has an answer: her son. The swimmer’s mother, Ike Lochte, revealed that her son likes one-night stands, preferring casual flings to the hassle of a monogamous relationship.

In an interview with Today, Mama Lochte said that her son spends so much time focusing on his career that he doesn’t have time to maintain a committed relationship. She said, “He goes out on one-night stands. He's not able to give fully to a relationship because he's always on the go.”

Thats a hell of a lot better and funner than receiving death threats.to anyone who would actually type those things and mean them, they are jackholes. but (and i will have to confer with wallace108 on this) wouldnt the people actually saying these things actually be gun rights supporters, pretending to be left wing anti-gun activists, in an attempt to spear them and paint them as kooks? to avoid this thread from being hijacked, i will leave that question as arhetorical one. the olympic games and the sportsmen and women in them is a perfect example of why i love the art of shooting.

the argument in the tweets above says farmers and ranchers should be slaughtered as well. :jerkit:

MACH1

08-07-2012, 12:39 AM

Yeah no I wasn't trying to hijack.

I just think its a shame that we have a US Olympian thats getting those kind of threats.

Further insightful repoorting on the living hell of life as a member of the dishonorable Team China

Heavy Burden on Athletes Takes Joy Away From China’s Olympic Success

A tide of self-doubt and introspection about the human costs of China’s Olympic prowess has arisen amid worries that the nation’s draconian sports system is sometimes producing damaged goods. Floundering athletes can even be cast aside after their careers are over — a point driven home last year when a former gold medal gymnast was found begging on the streets of Beijing. According to the state media, 240,000 retired athletes are grappling with injuries, poverty and unemployment.

the USA womens relay team is amazing, blowing away the field in both events

crushed them

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