Students can carry at five schools

KUTZTOWN (AP) — Students on some Pennsylvania college campuses might be carrying more than their books.

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Posted May. 11, 2013 at 12:01 AM

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ESU speaks out

Junior Victoria Krukenkamp: I believe that a campus community is no place for guns. A ban on the ability to carry firearms on a college campus is just common sense.

Senior Sean Harisson: I s...

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ESU speaks out

Junior Victoria Krukenkamp: I believe that a campus community is no place for guns. A ban on the ability to carry firearms on a college campus is just common sense.

Senior Sean Harisson: I stand by my Second Amendment rights. They should definitely not be banned on university campuses.

Junior Jessica Tanski: Coming from a location where guns are widely used for hunting and recreational activities, I do feel as if there is a time and a place for guns and a school campus is not a place for students to be carrying around guns.

Freshman Jamie Reese: This seems to be a ploy by Kutztown University to grab media attention, and possibly an attempt to increase popularity and enrollment amongst those people with concealed weapons licenses.

English Professor Fred Misurella: When I first came to ESU in 1978, campus police weren't allowed to carry guns. When they argued for the right to carry them and received it, I and most of the faculty I talked to did not like it. I accept their need to carry them now, but I certainly don't think the rest of the community should, if for no other reason than it is dangerous and provocative. Education is an attempt to civilize human behavior, and I see no reason why a university community should go against that tradition. Equal rights for African- Americans and all women were achieved through non-violent means (passive resistance and civil disobedience), and it seems to me that is the noblest achievement in American history of the 20th century. Guns had no place in it, just as they have no place on a college campus now.

Compiled by Valentina Caval for the Pocono Record

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KUTZTOWN (AP) — Students on some Pennsylvania college campuses might be carrying more than their books.

At least five Pennsylvania state-owned universities are now allowing guns on campus after the state's lawyers concluded that an outright ban on weapons was probably unconstitutional.

Kutztown, Shippensburg, Edinboro, Slippery Rock and Millersville universities have all quietly changed their policies over the past year to reflect the advice of lawyers in the governor's office and the Pennsylvania State System of Higher Education.

East Stroudsburg University's current policy prohibits the possession of firearms on campus, according to spokeswoman Brenda Friday.

The policy applies even if a student has a legal permit. The prohibition extends to pellet/BB guns, bows and arrows, guns, paint guns and replica weapons, knives, and other dangerous weapons, according to the policy.

"All firearms, weapons, and/or ammunition brought to campus for hunting or ROTC purposes must be registered and stored at the University Police station. The weapons will be released to the owners when they are leaving campus and require it for a lawful purpose," the policy states.

Students in those schools are now allowed to have weapons on campus, though they are still generally banned from school buildings and athletic events.

Yet only three weeks after Kutztown dropped its ban, state system officials appeared to be having second thoughts about allowing guns on campus, telling all 14 member schools Friday to hold off on weapons policy changes until a task force on campus safety can weigh in.

"Given the importance of this issue, the significance of this issue, we think it's a good idea to take a second look," state system spokesman Kenn Marshall said.

Students with concealed-carry permits had questioned the constitutionality of blanket weapons bans at state-owned universities, prompting a legal review that found such bans were vulnerable to court challenge.

About a year ago, the state system provided a model weapons policy for consideration by all 14 schools "that more narrowly tailored the firearms restriction, addressing both public safety and constitutional concerns," said Nils Hagen-Frederiksen, a spokesman for the governor's Office of General Counsel.

Kutztown changed its policy April 19, though it had largely escaped notice until Kutztown President F. Javier Cevallos emailed students, faculty and staff about it Thursday night.

Under the new policy, licensed gun owners are permitted to bring their weapons onto campus, but may not take them into any campus building or athletic event unless first obtaining permission from the university police chief. The chief will consider making an exception if there is a "compelling reason" related to personal safety, the policy says.

Kutztown is not endorsing weapons on campus, spokesman Matt Santos said Friday.

"Our president does not believe that guns have a place on campus," he said. "We will do what we can to keep our campus free of weapons and have written the policy to keep it as strong as possible to keep weapons away from buildings and campus events. We believe we provide a very safe environment for students to learn and live."

Twenty-two states ban concealed weapons on college campuses, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. In 23 others, the decision is left to each individual college or university. Five states — Colorado, Mississippi, Oregon, Utah and Wisconsin — allow firearms on public university campuses.

Pennsylvania's largest university, Penn State, bans all weapons from campus, though students who hunt or shoot recreationally are permitted to store them with police. Penn State receives a state appropriation each year but is not owned by the state. The University of Pittsburgh — like Penn State a state-supported but not state-run school — also prohibits weapons anywhere on campus.

"Our feeling is that police, who are trained in handling firearms, shooting accuracy during stressful situations and in making quick decisions and judgments, should be the ones with weapons," Penn State spokeswoman Lisa Powers said via email Friday. "They are the experts."

Pennsylvania's concealed-carry law is silent on the issue of guns on college campuses. Other state laws do prohibit firearms in K-12 schools and court facilities, but there is no statute banning firearms possession at state-owned universities.

Thus "an outright weapons ban on public college campuses may be a problem under Pennsylvania law," Michael Moreland, a vice dean and professor at Villanova University's law school, said via email.

Last year, he noted, the Colorado Supreme Court struck down the University of Colorado's ban on campus weapons possession, ruling it violated the state's concealed-carry law.

There has been no such legal challenge in Pennsylvania. Nevertheless, the state's lawyers cautioned that "blanket firearms bans were vulnerable to constitutional challenge and exposed the universities" to legal claims, Hagen-Frederiksen, the spokesman for Gov. Tom Corbett's legal team, said via email.

The new university weapons policies seemed unlikely to turn campuses into armed camps. In Kutztown, gun owners are generally limited to wandering the campus with their firearms, locking them in their cars, or checking them in at the police department. Santos said no one has asked the chief for permission to take a weapon inside a campus building.

Still, as word of the new policy spread across campus Friday, students debated whether it's a good idea to allow weapons.

"It promotes violence. You have lethal weapons on campus in a place where we're supposed to get a higher education, not carry bullets and guns and be prepared to kill someone. It's bizarre to me," said James Alexander, 21, a political science major from Pottstown.

But another student raised the 2007 Virginia Tech massacre, in which a gunman killed 32 students before committing suicide, to argue in favor of a well-armed student body.

"It could potentially have been stopped," said Tony Pavoncello, 20, a freshman from York. "If one or more students had been armed and had been there when he came in the door, you never know what might have happened. It might have changed something."

Gun-rights advocates including Students for Concealed Carry — a group launched in the wake of Virginia Tech —maintain that an armed campus is a safer campus because police typically can't respond quickly enough to stop a mass shooter in the act.

A campus police chiefs' association, the International Association of Campus Law Enforcement Administrators, takes an opposing view. Its board has declared that allowing guns on campus could "dramatically increase violence."