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True, I apologize. That is indeed a sweeping statement. The rest, however, is not, and was targeted at that person and group. And as I said before...if you are Muslim and have
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True, I apologize. That is indeed a sweeping statement. The rest, however, is not, and was targeted at that person and group. And as I said before...

if you are Muslim and have a problem criticizing a person or organization that spreads hate because they are Muslim, then you are part of the problem and contributing to the bad image Islam has rather than dispelling it. Same goes for all other religions.

Wasn’t their singing condemned because of what they were saying rather than what language it was sung in?
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I did not anywhere in my comments defend the person or the group. I do not know the person or the group or care for them for that matter. My objection was to the overall trend seen in The Local (this post follows the trend) where comments made about religions, minorities, races, etc are not at all acceptable or at least have a redline UNLESS those comments are made about Muslims and Islam, where generalized openly bigoted comments are tolerated.And I believe the overall development of this post and some the comments made here show that this indeed is the case. I believe is let’s say Jews for example were called a “professional hate group”, we’d have a problem.I have no problem with people saying their opinions openly. No one can dictate anything on anyone. Just don’t be hypocritical. Hold the same views and standards across the board.

QUOTE (Bsmith @ 8.Jan.2019, 12:17 AM)

I have met some real nice people who were Muslims and former Muslims (denounced the religion as they thought it was demeaning towards women). I have met some not so good peop
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I have met some real nice people who were Muslims and former Muslims (denounced the religion as they thought it was demeaning towards women). I have met some not so good people who were supposedly Christians (think they missed the point). People are people and there are good and bad on all sides of the fence.

However, for many reasons, I find the religion of Islam itself to be a hate inspired, backward, 14th century, geo-political force/religion. And the ideals of Islam are counter to many of the beliefs that Western democracies hold dear. Japan, although not a Western country, will absolutely not allow it to gain a foothold in their country as they feel it is a destabilizing force. I totally agree.

Unfortunately, for some mind-boggling reason, liberals have embraced Islam. If these miss-guided folk ever truly looked in to the core beliefs, they would be in for a shock.
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Isn’t the freedom of religion one of the beliefs that western democracies hold dear!I see that the exponential increase in westerners converting to Islam is an indication that Islam and some western values could go hand in hand. We have to understand that western values are shifting, something that isn’t allowed today or frowned upon could be allowed and possibly even cherished 30 years from now.

QUOTE (Uncle Fred @ 8.Jan.2019, 12:30 AM)

May I ask MSahyouni their views on this.An 18-year-old Saudi woman who fled her family at the weekend has left Bangkok airport "under the care" of the UN refugee age
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May I ask MSahyouni their views on this.

An 18-year-old Saudi woman who fled her family at the weekend has left Bangkok airport "under the care" of the UN refugee agency, the head of Thailand's immigration police says.Thai immigration officials had tried to return Rahaf Mohammed al-Qunun, 18, to Kuwait, where her family is.But she refused to board a flight on Monday and barricaded herself into her airport hotel room.She said she feared her family would kill her as she had renounced Islam."My brothers and family and the Saudi embassy will be waiting for me in Kuwait," Ms Mohammed al-Qunun told Reuters."My life is in danger. My family threatens to kill me for the most trivial things."
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I don’t really see how this relates to the overall discussion!Anyhow yes I have briefly read the news on this. And my answer is “My family threatens to kill me for the most trivial things” her words not mine.There are many dysfunctional families and crazy people out there. so to dismiss her actual words about her family, in addition to the fact that she comes from one of the most oppressing countries in the world that is known for their violations of all types of human rights (violations are against Muslims by the way), and to only concentrate on the fact that she is a Muslim is incorrect.

.. We have to understand that western values are shifting, something that isn’t allowed today or frowned upon could be allowed and possibly even cherished 30 years from now.

Western values are and will shift. However, by its own decree, one of Islam's core beliefs is that the Koran is the actual word of God and not one word can be changed. That is why Islam is so utterly backward.

Western values are and will shift. However, by its own decree, one of Islam's core beliefs is that the Koran is the actual word of God and not one word can be changed. T
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Western values are and will shift. However, by its own decree, one of Islam's core beliefs is that the Koran is the actual word of God and not one word can be changed. That is why Islam is so utterly backward.
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Western values are and will shift. However, by its own decree, one of Christianity’s core beliefs is that the Bible is the word of god and not one word can be changed. That is why Christianity is so utterly backwards.

I did not anywhere in my comments defend the person or the group. I do not know the person or the group or care for them for that matter. My objection was to the overall trend
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I did not anywhere in my comments defend the person or the group. I do not know the person or the group or care for them for that matter. My objection was to the overall trend seen in The Local (this post follows the trend) where comments made about religions, minorities, races, etc are not at all acceptable or at least have a redline UNLESS those comments are made about Muslims and Islam, where generalized openly bigoted comments are tolerated.And I believe the overall development of this post and some the comments made here show that this indeed is the case. I believe is let’s say Jews for example were called a “professional hate group”, we’d have a problem.I have no problem with people saying their opinions openly. No one can dictate anything on anyone. Just don’t be hypocritical. Hold the same views and standards across the board.

Isn’t the freedom of religion one of the beliefs that western democracies hold dear!I see that the exponential increase in westerners converting to Islam is an indication that Islam and some western values could go hand in hand. We have to understand that western values are shifting, something that isn’t allowed today or frowned upon could be allowed and possibly even cherished 30 years from now.

I don’t really see how this relates to the overall discussion!Anyhow yes I have briefly read the news on this. And my answer is “My family threatens to kill me for the most trivial things” her words not mine.There are many dysfunctional families and crazy people out there. so to dismiss her actual words about her family, in addition to the fact that she comes from one of the most oppressing countries in the world that is known for their violations of all types of human rights (violations are against Muslims by the way), and to only concentrate on the fact that she is a Muslim is incorrect.
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You are right. This forum is a cesspool of old white man hate ironically directed at immigrants, at least darker skinned or Muslim immigrants/ Muslim Swedes... there is no difference to them.

It’s crazy. But just take it with a grain of salt and roll with it or drop out. I couldn’t take too much so I took a break and probably will again soon after just coming back to it a couple days ago.

It’s kind of fun to get these peoples panties all twisted up and there are also those that support the non racist non discriminatory approach to life and don’t generalize up to wazoo.

Western values are and will shift. However, by its own decree, one of Christianity’s core beliefs is that the Bible is the word of god and not one word can be changed. That
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Western values are and will shift. However, by its own decree, one of Christianity’s core beliefs is that the Bible is the word of god and not one word can be changed. That is why Christianity is so utterly backwards.
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The Christianity of today is radically different than the Christianity practiced even 100 years ago.