ravena0123 wrote:this skin tone is much more similar with the real life kobe than the darker one. ^^

what darker one?? the one that michael did??

BTW guys im using the HD exe only not the HD darker players okay... ^^

what i meant is darker one, the one you posted screens at the top of 4th page. the one with gameplay. But since I came up with the realization that the color varies from different camera angles, I think the 1st one you posted in the 4th page is the best. The shine is enough for me..kinda like blacktop and its not that shiny for an indoor game.

Now with your latest screens, i did notice that is has just plain shine on his arms. does it mean no sweat effects?

"When you're in this fantasy and you're on top of the world, it's hard to get a dose of reality. It hit me, smacked me right in the middle of my prime. So I had to fight, had to fight to resume my career."

no offense sir but are you gonna release your amazing work? or you just making us jealous of what you're doing? i remember johndoe22 back in a day.. too bad for him he got ban for not sharing his work or should i say not teaching how to make stuff like this, and stuff like that... =( but the good thing he did to us is we gamers let him test the global to give our feedback to remake again this amazing work.. i miss him.. no offense but i'm tired of waiting hahahaha sorry dre! tagal eh!!!!!

washbuRn wrote:no offense sir but are you gonna release your amazing work? or you just making us jealous of what you're doing? i remember johndoe22 back in a day.. too bad for him he got ban for not sharing his work or should i say not teaching how to make stuff like this, and stuff like that... =( but the good thing he did to us is we gamers let him test the global to give our feedback to remake again this amazing work.. i miss him.. no offense but i'm tired of waiting hahahaha sorry dre! tagal eh!!!!!

i can assure you that sj, trys his best not only to bring us the best work possibly, but also is a cool guy that's willing to help. if anyone needs to watch there walk or tread carefully with the words they choose it would be you!

washbuRn wrote:no offense sir but are you gonna release your amazing work? or you just making us jealous of what you're doing? i remember johndoe22 back in a day.. too bad for him he got ban for not sharing his work or should i say not teaching how to make stuff like this, and stuff like that... =( but the good thing he did to us is we gamers let him test the global to give our feedback to remake again this amazing work.. i miss him.. no offense but i'm tired of waiting hahahaha sorry dre! tagal eh!!!!!

i can assure you that sj, trys his best not only to bring us the best work possibly, but also is a cool guy that's willing to help. if anyone needs to watch there walk or tread carefully with the words they choose it would be you!

Yeah. Dont post unnessecary things. Its like you are paying him to rush it.

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washbuRn wrote:no offense sir but are you gonna release your amazing work? or you just making us jealous of what you're doing? i remember johndoe22 back in a day.. too bad for him he got ban for not sharing his work or should i say not teaching how to make stuff like this, and stuff like that... =( but the good thing he did to us is we gamers let him test the global to give our feedback to remake again this amazing work.. i miss him.. no offense but i'm tired of waiting hahahaha sorry dre! tagal eh!!!!!

no prob bro.. im used to it BTW about the word "making you all jealous", it's not what i meant.. maybe you feel that way but its not what i intend to do.. the reason why i am not releasing it as soon as i finish my work is because i want you all guys to just play it smoothly, there's a chance that if i release it earlier, you will experience some glitches in the skin or in the shadow, etc.. thats why im sending it first to my trusted friends here so they can tell me or suggest me what to do..they all respond to my request to put some pics and comment in this thread even if they are busy with some other things...about johndoe, yeah im a fan too, a HUGE fan of him actually (he is my friend in facebook) and we share some comments on what to do, what will be the outcome if i did this or that.. seriously, im not even closer to his knowledge using hex editing but im trying my best to help us all to improve the graphics of this game... but its alright man.. honestly.. okay lan yun brod ^^

if anyone wants to try this one okay i will release it but help me by commenting and not just reading and playing it and also post some pics of your game here so we can all see what to be improve okay??http://www.mediafire.com/?7owp6y8c0qmrara

Beta Test results from the most recent global of SJ: (1st 3 Screenshots) These are without HD, ENB & FXAA. I used the default nba.exea.1 a.2 a.3 I observed that the most recent global has a little sweaty effect compared to the previous SJ global I beta tested yesterday (SS in the 4th page) and Ill be posting them below for comparison:b.1 b.2 i also love this effect these last 3 screenshots are tests before the unofficial release

for those who are pressuring and hurrying:

the reason why i am not releasing it as soon as i finish my work is because i want you all guys to just play it smoothly, there's a chance that if i release it earlier, you will experience some glitches in the skin or in the shadow, etc.. -SJ

After testing the global, I think that it was awesome but there are always room for improvements. I think the sweat effect looks very good for 3rd quarter + 4th quarter, but for the first quarter it doesnt seem to make sense.Players looks kinda too sweaty to start the game. The images below is a picture of kobe with less than a minute into the game; first w/o enb , 2nd with enb. Kobe looks kinda sweaty to begin the game so it doesnt seem that reasonable. Anyways I love this global so far but im just pointing out things that could possibly be improve. Great work SJ!

I have yet to test this but in regards to sweat, players don't sweat more in the 3rd and 4th quarters. I don't know why people think that, first you have to consider half time. Second, once you start playing, after a few minutes of a full court baskteball game you're already going to be sweating pretty intensely, so by 2nd quarter it should be on max sweat. There isn't some kind of progressive sweat through out a game, you start sweating pretty quickly and you hit your max depending on the duration of your playing time without stopping and effort. Basically if a guy has played an entire quarter he should be max sweating, whether it's the 1st quarter or the 4th.

I've been to busy to test the globals, but for those who have played blacktop, how does it compare, to me, if it's just like blacktop, that's perfect, I think blacktop looks amazing.

chicagoRAW wrote:I have yet to test this but in regards to sweat, players don't sweat more in the 3rd and 4th quarters. I don't know why people think that, first you have to consider half time. Second, once you start playing, after a few minutes of a full court baskteball game you're already going to be sweating pretty intensely, so by 2nd quarter it should be on max sweat. There isn't some kind of progressive sweat through out a game, you start sweating pretty quickly and you hit your max depending on the duration of your playing time without stopping and effort. Basically if a guy has played an entire quarter he should be max sweating, whether it's the 1st quarter or the 4th.

I've been to busy to test the globals, but for those who have played blacktop, how does it compare, to me, if it's just like blacktop, that's perfect, I think blacktop looks amazing.

Your logic makes sense and I agree with it, but players shouldnt sweat that much with less than a minute into the game. I picture i posted is the first possession after tip off.. so that would be around 24-30 secs max.

I'd like to say lets get the skintones/lighting correct first and foremost, then we can look at progressive sweat. I love Kobe's tone now. Once we get the other few skin lighting values correct, we can then take a look at the sweat. Just my honest opinion.

couple of things:- sometimes it looks perfect, sometimes it looks too shiny. I think you should lessen how shiny it is just a little.- some parts of skin tones get too dark when I use this, i don't know how you'd fix that though.

EDIT: and about the progressive sweat, it doesn't really matter imo, because honestly, some players just sweat a lot more than others so you really can't take everything in real life into account.

seanjohn1414 wrote:thnx for all the nice comments and critics for the last preview...

okay... now in the serious side... last season, im rushing things that i missed many parameters and the outcome is like the skin in gameplay and replay and also in the bench are not matching with each othere..but now its different...

look at the gameplay pics and the replay pics... here it is... and i also need all your comments and critics.. its very helpful to me so guys.. cooperate okay ^^ LOL

Finally got to test the global. First off I would recommend not touching the skin tones at all, stick to the default 2k skin tones, I think in the beta global kobe is too dark. It's especially noticeable how darker he is when you go to a time out and the global edits get turned off, he is much more lighter. I don't really like him being that dark, along with other players with that skin tone. Second I would say when doing these edits, don't use any modified exe file. I don't use MikeV's exe's, I think his modification makes the game arcade-like. Now for the effect its self, I think it's on the way to being like black top mode, but it's probably 50% there. Again, I would like to see the default 2k skin tones with these edits. Here are some screens. ALSO, I took my screens during gameplay, I don't take replay screens, I don't take cut scene screens. 95% of playing is actual in game, gameplay (if that makes sense) so that's the effect I focus on. With that said, I don't see all the fuss about players being too shiny, during gameplay they look fine.

I kinda disagree with what everyone's saying. I really like the shine, and i hope it stays that way. And i don't think kobe's skin tone is too dark. I think you nailed the skin tone and should move on to other tasks.

I think you will not get the sweat effect in 2minutes per quarter. try beta testing it in a 5-7min/quarter and see difference. cause I noticed your 2nd quarter score you can take ingame pics using replay

Nick wrote:I kinda disagree with what everyone's saying. I really like the shine, and i hope it stays that way. And i don't think kobe's skin tone is too dark. I think you nailed the skin tone and should move on to other tasks.

Yes skin tone is good already

but still i'll love if we'll stick to this sweat effect what can you say guys?I dunno if you'll agree

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Nick wrote:I kinda disagree with what everyone's saying. I really like the shine, and i hope it stays that way. And i don't think kobe's skin tone is too dark. I think you nailed the skin tone and should move on to other tasks.

[quote="chicagoRAW"]Finally got to test the global. First off I would recommend not touching the skin tones at all, stick to the default 2k skin tones, I think in the beta global kobe is too dark. It's especially noticeable how darker he is when you go to a time out and the global edits get turned off, he is much more lighter. I don't really like him being that dark, along with other players with that skin tone. Second I would say when doing these edits, don't use any modified exe file. I don't use MikeV's exe's, I think his modification makes the game arcade-like. Now for the effect its self, I think it's on the way to being like black top mode, but it's probably 50% there. Again, I would like to see the default 2k skin tones with these edits. Here are some screens. ALSO, I took my screens during gameplay, I don't take replay screens, I don't take cut scene screens. 95% of playing is actual in game, gameplay (if that makes sense) so that's the effect I focus on. With that said, I don't see all the fuss about players being too shiny, during gameplay they look fine.

intruda wrote:This has nothing to do with seanjohns global. But prior to using his global, anything from Carmelo to white didnt show sweat. With his global same thing, but i know hes only worked on kobe type.

Is this an issue for everyone else. I had sweat prior to this global but not on lighter skinned players.

Just making sure im not going crazy or wrong setup or something.

yes. please relax. =) this is the result of releasing it unofficially. we will really expect glitches or questions. That's why SJ had a good idea in releasing it to his close friends first for beta test. But someone pressured him i think. that's what we get, its an unofficial release global. so backing up your global will be safe

intruda wrote:This has nothing to do with seanjohns global. But prior to using his global, anything from Carmelo to white didnt show sweat. With his global same thing, but i know hes only worked on kobe type.

Is this an issue for everyone else. I had sweat prior to this global but not on lighter skinned players.

Just making sure im not going crazy or wrong setup or something.

yes. please relax. =) this is the result of releasing it unofficially. we will really expect glitches or questions. That's why SJ had a good idea in releasing it to his close friends first for beta test. But someone pressured him i think. that's what we get, its an unofficial release global. so backing up your global will be safe

What? I said this question had nothing to do with seanjohns global. Just by default theres no progressive sweat for lighter skinned players. As ive been playing with my config file and wanted to make sure everyone was experiencing the same thing.

Has nothing to do with what seanjohn released.

Your typing tone is funny, not everyone is a noob.

Thanks seanjohn for global buddy, will be using until next release, anything is better than default.

This has nothing to do with seanjohns global. But prior to using his global, anything from Carmelo to white didnt show sweat. With his global same thing, but i know hes only worked on kobe type.Is this an issue for everyone else. I had sweat prior to this global but not on lighter skinned players. Just making sure im not going crazy or wrong setup or something.

ok my bad. just make it clear. I thought you're concerned of having no sweat with his global for kobe type and not on light skinned players.