Santa Cruz County CCW Policy, Good Cause statements, Guidelines and Forms can be found Here

2014 Nov 15 UPDATE: Per my (Paladin's) post in this thread today (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...8#post15266388), you should apply ASAP if your Good Cause is "self-defense"/"personal protection" to get a space in line for processing after Peruta is finalized.

"Show good cause for the issuance based on substantial evidence of a clear and present danger to life or great bodily harm to the applicant or immediate family which cannot be adequately dealt with by existing law enforcement resources and which cannot be reasonably avoided by alternative measures. The danger must be significantly mitigated by the applicant's carrying of a concealed weapon."

From what I read: as a resident of the City of Santa Cruz, not of the unincorporated portion of the County
I'm SOL?

No, by law the Sheriff is required to review all applications. This particular practice of requiring one to go to their city police chief first or the unwillingness to accept applications from those that reside in incorporated areas is part of the "clean up process" that Wildhawker and Gray have addressed before.

I live in Live Oak (unincorporated), and I wonder about the "clear and present danger" aspect mentioned above. What does that mean, that I essentially need to have an RO against someone, or someone has made documented threats against my life before they will consider issuing a CCW?

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Because I work strictly in the unincorporated area of the county (edit: I am employed by SC County) and therefore spend a substantial amount of time outside of the S.C. city limits where I live; will I be able to apply through the S.O. or am I still SOL?
Color me depressed...

Because I work strictly in the unincorporated area of the county and therefore spend a substantial amount of time outside of the S.C. city limits where I live; will I be able to apply through the S.O. or am I still SOL?
Color me depressed...

If you live anywhere within the county, you can apply to the sheriff. Some sheriffs will require you to apply to your city first if you live in a city, but after the city rejects you, the county must evaluate your application.

Regardless, unless you are extremely well-connected, you will not get a CCW in SC city or county, short of a lawsuit.

If you live anywhere within the county, you can apply to the sheriff. Some sheriffs will require you to apply to your city first if you live in a city, but after the city rejects you, the county must evaluate your application.

The sheriff is statutorily prohibited from requiring you to apply to your city first. This drill will be aimed specifically at the sheriff's issuing policies and acceptable good cause in 90% of the cases. There will be a few outliers where city policy might be important and where applying to the city might be advantageous.

Don't worry about applying to the Santa Cruz PD you will be going directly to the Sheriff and Gray is/has been softening up the field by contacting the Sheriff to let him know where their policy doesn't follow the law.

Tell me what about the "good moral character" aspect of the CCW. Does that just mean you aren't a prohibited person? Otherwise, it seems like they could use almost anything against you, since the way its worded its completely subjective.

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Tell me what about the "good moral character" aspect of the CCW. Does that just mean you aren't a prohibited person? Otherwise, it seems like they could use almost anything against you, since the way its worded its completely subjective.

There are really only two ways to be denied based on not having good moral character.

1. Lieing on the application.

2. Having a lot of recent arrests or a recent serious conviction while still not being prohibited from owning firearms.

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Please keep us posted! I have had many phone conversations with the scsd about ccw policy and even went in and sat in the detective's office that is responsible for ccw apps.
I have nothing on my record not even a speeding ticket, I have good moral character, and some training. Yet I was treated like a criminal wanting to carry my weapon legally. The only thing they say is "we don't need people running around the streets with guns. something needs to change, please contact me if I can help.

These are the good cause statements that the Santa Cruz sheriff has deemed adequate to issue permits for.

Thanks dantodd!! Looks like the predominant good causes are business owner, prior LEO, judge, and significant-documented threats to the applicant. ALOT of "buisiness only" limitations there as well.

Soooo, now that we have these pieces of info, what's the next step??

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As I was looking through these it seems that many calgunners might have good cause very similar to those on pgs. 24 and 27.

the GC on pg 24 is essentially that the person is a firearms instructor, sells something (can't tell what) and he carries lots of guns and sensitive/expensive equipment around. I think nearly half the calgunners might also carry lots of guns and equipment around, though they aren't instructors I don't see where that is really a factor in increasing the applicants risk.

I don't see where the fact that the GC on pg. 27 is for a business owner is particularly relevant as the reason s/he feels the need to carry is because they are required to respond at all times of the day and night, carries cash and wears jewelry. (while I don't wear jewelry it is possible that a Roles might qualify)

As for what you should do with this info, I suspect that Wildhawker is the best to answer that. I am not sure if he wants people to apply with well crafted GC now that they know what the sheriff has recently accepted or if he wants people to wait. I'll let him chime in on that.

I don't see where the fact that the GC on pg. 27 is for a business owner is particularly relevant as the reason s/he feels the need to carry is because they are required to respond at all times of the day and night, carries cash and wears jewelry. (while I don't wear jewelry it is possible that a Roles might qualify)

As for what you should do with this info, I suspect that Wildhawker is the best to answer that. I am not sure if he wants people to apply with well crafted GC now that they know what the sheriff has recently accepted or if he wants people to wait. I'll let him chime in on that.

Hmm, so I'm a network engineer supporting a Fortune 500 company that's on-call 24/7. I'm occasionally called in at odd hours of the night/morning and transport high value/dollar network equipment in my vehicle. Getting into that "gray" area, but sounds like I "might" have something to work with?

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“To prohibit a citizen from wearing or carrying arm… is an unwarranted restriction upon the constitutional right to keep and bear arms. If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows and not by a general deprivation of constitutional privilege.”

Hmm, so I'm a network engineer supporting a Fortune 500 company that's on-call 24/7. I'm occasionally called in at odd hours of the night/morning and transport high value/dollar network equipment in my vehicle. Getting into that "gray" area, but sounds like I "might" have something to work with?

Your good cause does sound pretty similar to the good cause for which the sheriff has already issued a permit.

I don't suppose you have to respond to different locations such as co-location facilities etc. that might have delayed police response time and/or be "dark" areas with no lampposts etc. Most importantly, don't lie on your app, they will find out.

hey everyone, i to am here to help in the santa cruz county fight for ccw. i cant seem to download the gc pages, dont think its my computer as i have tried it on other computers and still no dice. going to be donating next week, after payday. im in public safety, the wife is also in public safety, we live in the mountains so were county. should i apply or keep waiting. has anyone been denied yet? or better yet, granted?

hey everyone, i to am here to help in the santa cruz county fight for ccw. i cant seem to download the gc pages, dont think its my computer as i have tried it on other computers and still no dice.

Weird it doesn't open properly if you click on it in Firefox but it opens just fine in IE and Chrome. Try right clicking on the link and selecting "Save Link As" in Firefox or "Save Target As" in IE and see if you are able to download it that way.

thanks for the info but i dont get it? it uploads but the file is blank? the doj app downloads just fine and i have all pages but the gc and the local policies are just blank files, huh idk. maybe its a mac thing. im going to try it in safari instead of firefox and see but i doubt that works. and i have no access to a pc

thanks for the info but i dont get it? it uploads but the file is blank? the doj app downloads just fine and i have all pages but the gc and the local policies are just blank files, huh idk. maybe its a mac thing. im going to try it in safari instead of firefox and see but i doubt that works. and i have no access to a pc

There was one other instance with a member not being able to download it properly and they were also on a Mac. I'm going to have to test this with mine and see if I can find what is the common cause. IIRC the other user had Mac OS 10.4, do you know what version you are running?

ETA:

I just tried it on my Mac G4, running OS 10.4, and I was able to reproduce the same results when trying to download it using Firefox. I tried Safari and it gave me a bit more information, stating that the file was created using a newer version of Acrobat and that I needed to go to Adobe's site and download the latest version of Acrobat Reader. You can download the latest version of Acrobat from Here