MitchS

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Hah--while I would love to see buses converted such that we don't have to hear and smell their diesel engines, I don't understand the claim that starting and stopping will extend the range--doesn't that violate the first and/or second laws of thermodynamics (maybe that's what you were getting at iindelco?)?! I guess that's what happens “when you put Chinese scientists and U.S. scientists together..."

Axion Power Concentrator 232: May 1: Axion Power On Panel At Energy Storage Economics 2.0 For New York City And Beyond [View instapost]

f-kru,Good find. The block diagram on sht. 3 seems to confirm that Indy Power Systems is indeed supplying the electronics for the Hub, as others have speculated here. They may be the ultimate manufacturer of it, based on their capabilities and expertise listed on their web site.

It's interesting to compare the spec. sheet you found with the 'production' specs on Rosewater's site:http://bit.ly/RXDm9k

Ranma,My search for information apparently has come across to you as a negative slant. Of late I confess to having a more negative opinion of Axion, as I've stated, but I believe for good reason. It has consumed and currently continues to consume, not generate, capital, which to me is the primary purpose of a corporation. I was disappointed when an announcement and expectation of 300% revenue growth turned out to be false. I am disappointed that other products are getting design wins in Axion's markets (auto and grid energy storage, e.g.) while Axion doesn't.

I admit my expectations may be aggressive for an until-recently development stage company, but I don't think unreasonable. This board's attitude generally seems more lenient towards management and results than mine. I have a different view and contribute what I think are useful and generally critical points. I of course think this forum could benefit from my approach. By definition I think everyone else must feel the same, or he wouldn't post.

Hot off the presses--looks like CSA performed the UL1741 testing for the residential Hub, and indeed the certificate holder is Axion, not Rosewater. My previously noted concerns about testing and UL announcements have been retired. Woohoo!!

Interesting to me is Note 2--I didn't realize that the Hub had to be installed outside.

John,Apparently you view skepticism and kidding as the same. No, I couldn't be more serious or straightforward.

As a shareholder and investor it behooves me to evaluate this company in which I have significant (to me) capital invested. Your tone suggests I should accept management's actions and statements without question or keep my concerns to myself. That attitude runs contrary to the purpose of a community-based investment forum.

iindelco,I normally wouldn't either, but my experience with regulatory test agencies led me fully to expect that the UL cert. would be recorded and published a whole three months post-test. I haven't found it on any body's site.

As I posted earlier, I have become more skeptical of Axion as time goes by with no sales. In this matter, I'll trust my own research but welcome any information. Mitch

Another thing to be worried about: lack of UL approval. I still have not found any independent evidence that the Hub/PowerCube indeed meets any UL standard. I even sent an e-mail to Axion--no answer. My suspicions have not been allayed.

Well said. I concur wholeheartedly. Unless the PbC quickly transforms from vapor to revenue, there can be only one outcome for Axion and our invested capital.

John,

Your disparaging remarks are ultimately not helpful. All valid viewpoints, regardless of tenor, should be accepted into this discourse. I find all (non-political) comments on this board, be they positive, negative, or misleading, to be helpful in researching Axion corporation to determine its purpose and fate.

Axion did a press release on Jan. 4 that the Hub received UL/CSA and IEEE certification, but I don't see a release on Rosewater's site? Odd.

I have not been able to find proof that the Hub actually is certified on UL's, CSA's, ITL's, TUV's, or VDE's site. All come up nil for both Axion and Rosewater. Only UL lists Axion's battery certs (note the PbC 30HT!). Any sleuthing would be appreciated.

LT,The announcements better be simultaneous, or maybe first sales announcement, then cap raise a few days later to make it look as though the investors didn't have any inside information of the impending sale, as discussed above.

If this doesn't happen, then I see no reason for the financing terms to be anything but incredibly painful for us long term holders.