I’m experimenting with Pownce, on which I’ve had an account for some time but which is now taking off as a social application after public release a few days ago. So far it seems a lot like a “prettier” twitter with a few more features. I’ve been very impressed with the way you can import friends and contacts from Gmail, Facebook, Twitter, and many more applications. I still don’t like the fact that no productive person has enough time to really engage with any of these networks – thus the idea application would be one that would carry me around as I’m online rather than force me to log in and off and participate on the applications terms rather than mine. MyBlogLog still – for me – offers the best functionality of all of them and now with their new API I think it might be the best platform for our US History and Travel website where we are hoping to build something of a travel community from the many users who just drop in for a bit of info.

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Internet Travel Guy, Father of 2, small town Oregon life. BS Botany from UW Madison Wisconsin, MS Social Sciences from Southern Oregon. Top interests outside of my family's well being are: Internet Technology, Online Travel, Globalization, China, Table Tennis, Real Estate, The Singularity.

9 Responses to Pownce vs Twitter

This is slightly off topic, but ProBlogger has an article on the benefits of Twitter for bloggers (not in relation to Pownce, btw — thus “off topic”). I’m not convinced yet that Twitter is something that I even have time for, much less inclination really, but he makes a good case for why bloggers can benefit their sites using it. All you social networkers are slowly eroding my defenses against change. 😉

I wonder about these “bubbles” that get high value from Venture Capitalists. Twitter was first. They have perhaps some sort of name recognition (and its a good name, to boot) but its really vulnerable to copycats who can also come up with good names and a good interface. In a social network with marketing being a socially-driven digital phenomenon, at some point “value” will go to the latest fad. Hemlines, necklines and million-dollar companies have fates that rest on sheer fads. Last years ladies dresses are often viewed as worthless. So to will be last year’s digital fads as the teeming millions find some new “in-thing” to jabber on about.

“…I wonder about these bubbles that get high value from Venture Capitalists. Twitter was first. They have perhaps some sort of name recognition (and its a good name, to boot) but its really vulnerable to copycats who can also come up with good names and a good interface. In a social network with marketing being a socially-driven digital phenomenon, at some point value will go to the latest fad. Hemlines, necklines and million-dollar companies have fates that rest on sheer fads. Last years ladies dresses are often viewed as worthless. So too will be last years digital fads as the teeming millions find some new in-thing to jabber on about. ….”

The above blog comment was made quite some time ago in response to a Pownce versus Twitter posting but I think it is highly relevent to some recent comments about Rupert Murdoch supposedly being livid at his expensively acquired MySpace supposedly being trounced by Facebook in a variety of different metrics. Oh sure, we can quibble about just how livid he supposedly is and just how victorious Facebook is and ofcourse we can focus on how transitory the whole matter may be, but one wonders if its going to be of greater concern to venture capitalists as they discover that businesses driven by social networks are hard to value because the madness of crowds is so unpredictable. Customer loyalty in the digital age seems non existent. The latest doo-dad on an interface and a massive defection of customers can take place. The latest viral-marketing video can precipitate mass migration of customers. Its akin to trying to value some restaurant full of the so-called beautiful people who are there to see and be seen. The restaurant attains fame and fortune but the owner had better hurry to the bank each week because eventually people will notice that the food is lousy or there simply some other watering hole that has become atleast equally trendy amongst the fickle hordes.
Just how could an auditor protect shareholders in such a situation? Just how can a venture capitalist derive a fair price evaluation?

the madness of crowds is so unpredictable. Customer loyalty in the digital age seems non existent. The latest doo-dad on an interface and a massive defection of customers can take place

Good stuff FG and I think the answer about your questions about how to value things is that you cannot derive “fair price” metrics from internet companies *even when they have revenue streams and profits*. Yahoo’s value is far more a function of Microsoft’s interest as their PE, which remains fairly reasonable.

For new companies it is anybody’s guess, and I think the market makers are driving pricing in very unnatural ways that look more like casino gambling than thoughtful investment. As I’ve noted before most VCs actually appear to *lose* money on average.

The game is certainly not “rigged” the way many think it is and my working hypothesis is that VC for startups is sort of like Arabian horse farms – it loses money for most but is a very fun hobby for many who effectively build relationships and contacts that help maintain their wealth and control over things indirectly. Sounds ominous but this is actually a pretty functional environment because it keeps the best innovators well fed and productive even as their startups mostly fail at the expense of people who can afford to lose a few million here and there in exchange for the fun of an infrequent big payoff.

I would agree that there are fundamental distortions that alter the nature of the marketplace and the investment decisions that are being made. Unfortunately, not all those who invest funds in Arabian Horse Farms are aware of the unique situation and if a pension fund makes that type of skewed investment there is a regulatory failure. No one told those who bought shares in Yahoo that it was akin to an Arabian Horse Farm. Now perhaps no one needed to, but perhaps the skewed economic situation means new warnings are required.
Everyone knows that inventory consisting of last year’s hemlines is worthless; everyone knows a ‘trendy’ restaurant is an ephemeral investment subject to whims of the trendy types; … but do investors truly know that the words ‘internet’ and ‘social marketing’ now mean “unstable income stream subject to unpredictable whims”?

There is alot to be said for the unix command goal: do one thing and do it extremely well but do only that one thing.
Gold Plated software or gold plated weapons systems tend to become bloated with options and features.

Twitter has ‘the lead’… and can stay there if it simply stays spartan.