i remember when Lee won the NPC nationals ( first man ever i think?). they said he'd been training for 4 and a half years. i sat there thinking, 'man, i've been training longer than that and i look like shit!!'

Ya when I first started working out in high school Lee Haney was motivating for me. He was winning his last Olympia against Dorian Yates when i started. Used to watch that show he had on ESPN whenever I could catch it.