That's the problem with democracy, you can vote for something with the best of intentions but then you have to rely on the politicians.

To be honest, I had vastly underestimated how incompetent our politicians are. I had also hoped that negotiations would be based on a fair deal which was in the best interests of the people of Europe and the UK. I still believe that the EU's days are numbered unless it changes. The right are rising across Europe and Merkel suffered another blow recently where even the greens outdid her coalition. Change is coming on way or another.

Amusing that Brexiteers are up in arms about a potential extension to the transition period.As informed voters, what made them think the 2 years A50 period was enough time to untangle our current relationship and then strike a new deal?

1. Thinking about the current position in the Brexit negotiations, do you think... Neither side will compromise enough for an agreement and Britain will end up without a deal 34% Britain will end up compromising to agree a deal closer to the EU proposals 23% Both sides will end up making compromises to agree a deal in the middle 15% The EU will end up compromising to agree a deal closer to the British proposals 5% Don't know 23%

So most people think it'll be no deal but what will parliament say? Lots of twists and turns yet methinks.

That's the problem with democracy, you can vote for something with the best of intentions but then you have to rely on the politicians.

To be honest, I had vastly underestimated how incompetent our politicians are. I had also hoped that negotiations would be based on a fair deal which was in the best interests of the people of Europe and the UK. I still believe that the EU's days are numbered unless it changes. The right are rising across Europe and Merkel suffered another blow recently where even the greens outdid her coalition. Change is coming on way or another.

So what you're saying is the problem is the elected politicians.

It seems more decisions made by unelected career bureaucrats is the answer.

1. Thinking about the current position in the Brexit negotiations, do you think... Neither side will compromise enough for an agreement and Britain will end up without a deal 34% Britain will end up compromising to agree a deal closer to the EU proposals 23% Both sides will end up making compromises to agree a deal in the middle 15% The EU will end up compromising to agree a deal closer to the British proposals 5% Don't know 23%

So most people think it'll be no deal but what will parliament say? Lots of twists and turns yet methinks.

No, that 43% don't agree on what the compromise will be so you can't just lump them together, it's not logical. The biggest individual answer is no deal. Not that it matters much, it's all down to the negotiators.

It seems more decisions made by unelected career bureaucrats is the answer.

They're all to blame, the elected and unelected and the beaurocrats, they all come under incompetent politicians. The civil service in this country are responsible for some of the biggest cock ups you'll ever see, they get ministers sacked yet keep their jobs. It often puzzles me that the politicians need so many advisors, after so many years in politics some of them seem to have learned nothing and take bad advice so very often. I mean, did Cameron take someone's advice to call a referendum? Then was he advised "project fear" was the best way to go? May took advice about her GE campaign and look how that went, some of this advice is so bad you'd amost think it was sabotage, though putting a big wooden clog in Boris's mouth is seeming ever more like a great idea! Then put the other clog on and very firmly boot May right up the back end.

What a pathetic pair of tw@ts they are,typical remoaners.If you said it was battersea and shaky I would not be surprised.

Any way no deal is coming home and about time we called all negotiations off since the EU will not agree on anything and we all know it.

Just ask yourselves why are the EU so desperate for us to stay?

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This is why.

“Well, Brexit is a disaster for the common market and an example of desperation in Europe, Economically, Brexit is the same as Croatia and the other smaller 18 countries leaving the EU at the same time.” German MEP Hans-Olaf Henkel said.

Of course they can't speak properly and are as thick a sh*t; they voted Leave.

Seriously, get a life guys (and girls?). Fair enough if there's a sensible discussion around what's happening, but this thread is mostly school playground name calling. It's pointless and depressing stuff.