Re: Our SCM

From: "Paulo Santos" <paulo banon googlemail com>

To: fedora-infrastructure-list redhat com

Subject: Re: Our SCM

Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 03:14:14 +0200

Yeah i though we were talking about our own SCM... The one we use to maintain the configs for our different tools, webservers and apps :)The other is still a good discussion, but should take place in the other thread (i might be wrong of course :P)

Karsten Wade wrote:> On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 16:01 -0400, Jesse Keating wrote:>>>> I'd really like there to be offline support in a manner that allows>> non-commiters to be able to clone, modify, and provide a repo back to us that
>> we can pull from.>>>> +1>> I think the barrier described earlier is worse than we realize. It may> seem like delving into technical details, but actually "centralized v.
> distributed VCS" is actually a strategic question.>> Strategically, we need to move _all_ of Fedora in the direction of> distributed VCS.>> Honestly, this is the whole truth behind why we are working our arses
> off in Docs and L10N to get new ways for people to be able to> contribute. We *must* have the XML/PO-based tools to get the work done,> but making people go through all the hoops to gain write access to the
> SCM means we get maybe 1% of the interested people from "I want to help"> to actually helping.>> You see a larger successful percentage with developers because they have> been through the VCS account system learning curve in the past. Not so
> with people who want to write content or translate. This is why> everything from GPG keys to CVS committing are so new to so much of our> prospective contributors.>> So, Infrastructure is much closer to developers, in that the pool of
> potentials are more likely to be clued. But keeping it this hard to> contribute means we are missing out on the 10000x more people who are> not clued enough to get over the walls, but who would become so clued if
> we could get them in and working their way along the path to> Enlightenment.>> This goes back to the stuff Blizzard keeps talking about -- getting down> the barriers between users and developers that our open collaboration
> tools ironically create.>> </rant>>:) I think this thread took a spin away from the Infrastructure SCM andon to something else.