Slayton, I hope you're right. Meh; I don't mind anyone winning here! Dave & Rachel would be most deserving (esp if they win the 11th segment). They'd be prime for an epic return of the racers season, but OTOH, they could end up being retired, too.

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Winning isn't everything, but it isn't considered nothing either. Otherwise, there wouldn't be a tribal council, a pit-stop, a boardroom, dimming of the lights, and so on

So have we established that there is a double roadblock for the Honolulu leg? If so does that mean each member has to do one of the roadblocks because I see Blonde Rachel doing both, which is maybe what Phil is talking about? Just a thought.

Next time, I hope that the Finish Line penalty is someone having to wait 45 minutes while the 2nd team to arrive steals their $1,000,000. That would be the determining factor to a great season regardless.

One thing we can agree on: that shot of Ralph & Vanessa validates them as finishing in the painful 4th-place spot

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Winning isn't everything, but it isn't considered nothing either. Otherwise, there wouldn't be a tribal council, a pit-stop, a boardroom, dimming of the lights, and so on

According to precendent there must be at least one roadblock and there is probably not a detour. According to recent precedents and the missing RB from leg six, there could be a double roadblock. A double roadblock always requires each team member to do one. Also, never in TAR history has production allowed a team member to perform a roadblock which they were not eligible for and then penalized them at the mat for it. The jetski and the land surfing cannot logically both be a roadblock because RachelB is doing both. One of them is possibly a detour option. My spec lineup for the finale:

Arrive on Oahu>>>>tower task>>>>paddleboard to a RI>>>>sledding roadblock>>>>jetski RI>>>>helicopter to beach for final RB>>>>finish line

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Arrive on Oahu>>>>tower task>>>>Detour>>>>paddleboard to a RI>>>>sledding roadblock>>>>helicopter to beach for final task>>>>finish line

So have we established that there is a double roadblock for the Honolulu leg? If so does that mean each member has to do one of the roadblocks because I see Blonde Rachel doing both, which is maybe what Phil is talking about? Just a thought.

Well, both Dave and Rachel had performed 4 RB each: Rachel in Legs 2, 4, 5 and 9, and Dave in Legs 1, 3, 8 and 10 - in leg 6 they won the FF and skip that leg's RB - . We saw in the Osaka part of the clips that she's doing the game show, what we believe is a RB too. So they'd reach the final leg with a count of 5-4. If you're right about the 2 RB in Hawaii, they would be making a huge mistake.

I hope this incomplete roadblock thing isn't similar to the debacle last season with the episode 2 (Yogyakarta, Indonesia) detour.After completing the detours, teams were supposed to donate all of their money to the orphans.

So teams received the clue sending them to the pitstop without actually fulfilling the complete requirements and after arriving at the pitstop were sent back by Phil.

If they've added something else like that and equally lame on to the end of the roadblock, I'll be really disappointed. Especially if it costs a team $1,000,000 .

In the Brenchel tantrum pics, someone mentioned the red box in 47 looked like something from a golf course(though the grass/soil doesn't look like what you'd find on a normal course), anyone able to figure out a possible location? Also, in (48-51), has anyone commented on the yellow 'log' barriers along the road/parking area? Is there someone currently in Hawaii(my memories are 8+ years old) who could shed light on whether they are a common/uncommon/rare sight?

In the Brenchel tantrum pics, someone mentioned the red box in 47 looked like something from a golf course(though the grass/soil doesn't look like what you'd find on a normal course), anyone able to figure out a possible location? Also, in (48-51), has anyone commented on the yellow 'log' barriers along the road/parking area? Is there someone currently in Hawaii(my memories are 8+ years old) who could shed light on whether they are a common/uncommon/rare sight?

I was thinking it could be a park, given the picnic table behind them in the press photo with the clue box, and in cap 48, the building in the upper right corner looks like a public restroom to me. I used to run cross-country when I attended school in Hawaii, and we ran at schools, parks, and on golf courses, and this looks more like a park to me. Plus there is that yellow gate in the background. I did notice the yellow parking lot barriers, and they seem less common than plain old concrete or other barriers. I don't recognize the spot right now, but I will keep looking....

I was just looking at cap 47 again. What the heck is that yellow box-like structure that looks like it's up on stilts in the trees behind the red box?

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I'm back to point out the possibility of Sand Island Beach Park. It has the same picnic tables, the same yellow curbs, the same bathroom, and in the picture marked WWII Bunkers you can see the yellow box up in the air and a red box on the ground.

Nice one boston jen! I think that is where they are. Look at the close proximity of Sand Island to the Waterfront Towers (the "A").

It's close enough to make a wrong turn but hard to get to the towers by road from there. Of course they might be done with that task already and looking for the next thing but their attitudes indicate that they may be lost.

Remember that picture time stamps show Brenchel being at least fifteen minutes behind Army at the towers.

In the Brenchel tantrum pics, someone mentioned the red box in 47 looked like something from a golf course(though the grass/soil doesn't look like what you'd find on a normal course), anyone able to figure out a possible location? Also, in (48-51), has anyone commented on the yellow 'log' barriers along the road/parking area? Is there someone currently in Hawaii(my memories are 8+ years old) who could shed light on whether they are a common/uncommon/rare sight?

I was thinking it could be a park, given the picnic table behind them in the press photo with the clue box, and in cap 48, the building in the upper right corner looks like a public restroom to me. I used to run cross-country when I attended school in Hawaii, and we ran at schools, parks, and on golf courses, and this looks more like a park to me. Plus there is that yellow gate in the background. I did notice the yellow parking lot barriers, and they seem less common than plain old concrete or other barriers. I don't recognize the spot right now, but I will keep looking....

I was just looking at cap 47 again. What the heck is that yellow box-like structure that looks like it's up on stilts in the trees behind the red box?

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I'm back to point out the possibility of Sand Island Beach Park. It has the same picnic tables, the same yellow curbs, the same bathroom, and in the picture marked WWII Bunkers you can see the yellow box up in the air and a red box on the ground.

In the Brenchel tantrum pics, someone mentioned the red box in 47 looked like something from a golf course(though the grass/soil doesn't look like what you'd find on a normal course), anyone able to figure out a possible location? Also, in (48-51), has anyone commented on the yellow 'log' barriers along the road/parking area? Is there someone currently in Hawaii(my memories are 8+ years old) who could shed light on whether they are a common/uncommon/rare sight?

I was thinking it could be a park, given the picnic table behind them in the press photo with the clue box, and in cap 48, the building in the upper right corner looks like a public restroom to me. I used to run cross-country when I attended school in Hawaii, and we ran at schools, parks, and on golf courses, and this looks more like a park to me. Plus there is that yellow gate in the background. I did notice the yellow parking lot barriers, and they seem less common than plain old concrete or other barriers. I don't recognize the spot right now, but I will keep looking....

I was just looking at cap 47 again. What the heck is that yellow box-like structure that looks like it's up on stilts in the trees behind the red box?

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I'm back to point out the possibility of Sand Island Beach Park. It has the same picnic tables, the same yellow curbs, the same bathroom, and in the picture marked WWII Bunkers you can see the yellow box up in the air and a red box on the ground.