Based upon the onus you place on their backs, why do you call them "victims"? Please explain. A woman has been repeatedly abused by her husband over the years. She walks into the police station, finally, seeking protection and relief. CF looks at her and says, "What are you prepared to do to change to help your situation?" First of all - she has taken the first step and is at the damned police station. Second of all, that she has survived as long as she has is a testament to her personal...

"I wonder how many Black people really give a schit about how they are LOOKED at ..." by Kevin41 "I wonder why there is sooo much laughter when the guy speaks.....I guess it is hard to take a tom serious .... when you know their first and foremost motive is to defend the stats quo and their white masters ....I thought the term conservative idiot applied here........." by Kevin41 ************************** ".....be it Democrat, Republican, Independent, Green Party, or otherwise..... ..... the...

ROTFLMAO!!!! p.s. I almost, fell for the Elder 'okidoke', until I heard his response to an African American woman (on his recently cancelled television show), who was opining about racism in the U.S. He asked her, why did'nt she just go 'back' to Africa if the racism was so bad here!! I could'nt believe it.

I agree. So why can't we "be real" about Black men's situation in this country? When African-American women talk about how this state of affairs is impacting their lives, why can't you all respectfully acknowledge what you are hearing and reading? Whenever an African-American woman tells people about how the deterioration of her community is impacting her future, all she gets are expressions of disbelief and denial, followed by a list of general dating tips. Well Black women are not apart of...

* I have no problems with reality {I actually prefer it to the self-boosting misinformation often floating about the Black community}, so long as those women acknowledge that they chose to date those guys all by themselves [cherry picked]. It was her choice to date/pursue Joe Thug and Ray-ray and thus it was her 'fault' when they let her down. If you sleep with dogs, you just might wake up with fleas and puppies!!! She also can't blame 'sane' black men that didn't appeal to her 'Ray-Ray'...

Oh, now I get it. In comparison to other middle class communities of other races, unfortunately the Black Middle Class seems to be busy trying to emmulate the White Middle Class. A community of selfish, over-privileged "rugged individualists" with that tired old "conservative Protestant work ethic" of "everyone pull yourself up by your own bootstraps". Pesonally, I think African-Americans need to get away from this "middleclassness" mentality. We should be concerned about improving our...

MBM: I am really flattered at the being the basis for so many of your posts. I figured that by now you could at least represent my position more correctly. Founding Premise: Some people reside inside of a system that organizes resources and creates wealth. Some people reside outside of such a system. The challenge is to CREATE a system that generates wealth and a high standard of living for the people that are of interest to you balancing this demand with other values that are important to...

Sorry, I didn't communicate the point well enough. It's not just that poverty exists, its that because America utilized slavery, it denied poor and working class whites the opportunity to feed their families, earn income, and build wealth. Absent slavery there still would have been an American economy. America would have had to pay the poor and working class folks here. If we can acknowledge a connectivity between the wrong committed to slaves and their descendents today, is it also not...

To anyone interested... Rough Crossings : Britain, the Slaves and the American Revolution - $49.95 Simon Schama "Set against the backdrop of the American Revolution and its aftermath, Rough Crossings is the gripping, astonishing epic of the struggle for freedom by tens of thousands of slaves who believed that their future as free men and women was bound up with staying British, not becoming American. The decision to offer slaves who defected to the British their liberty began in military...

Dr. Kevin: It is clear that you prefer a Black man who you can easily draw upon. You prefer to have Black folks commit to simple "Yes or No" questions rather than be able to justify their positions. I am convinced that you are more comfortable with a Black man who doesn't know much BUT who supports your position and when challenged resorts to the cry of RACISM rather than a Black man who DISAGREES WITH YOU AND CAN ARTICULATE WHY HE THINKS THAT WAY. YOU ARE A SHORT SIGHTED IDEOLOGUE (read - a...

But, these Desert Fathers were not following the type of Christianity that you follow. If I posted to you some of their theological/spiritual/philosophical beliefs, you would call them "heretics". Origien believed in Trinitarian/Monistic Emanationism (as opposed to Creationism), he believed in Universal Salvation (everyone eventually goes to Heaven), he believed that Christ died an Exemplary death (not a Sacrificial/Atonement death), he believed in reincarnation, he believed in the...

LOL! Apparently for Condoleeza Rice, J.C. Watts, Armstrong Williams, Larry Elder, Ward Connerly, "Rev." Jesse Lee Peterson, Juan Williams and Clarence Thomas; Affirmative Action was just fine WHEN THEY BENEFITTED FROM IT. Now that they have "made it" up the ladder, they want to kick it down so other Blacks can't use it. They want to be the only House Negroids in Massa's house. They can't have other Negroids stealing their spotlight! Got-damn Kneegrows. They can't stand Affirmative Action...

The Rev. Gregory Daniels is a baffling idiot. His statement sounds almost as preverse as the actions of the NAACP who in 1977 defended the KKK in Dayton, OH while irrantly proclaiming that every American deserved a fair chance... IMHO most of these Rev Chicken Wing, Pastor Pork Chop types make me sick with their twisted rhetoric. They mislead the congregations who cling to their every word while adhering to a flair of un-sense of history. Amazing.

That is a very good point. What exactly is "hyperaggressiveness"? For one person to be observed as more aggressive than another is one thing. For an entire group of people to be characterized as more aggressive there has to be a standard of aggressiveness. Do whites get to set the standard for everything that we do?!

The key distinction is OWNERSHIP AND POWER. Those who have both SEEK TO PROTECT THEIR POSSESSION. Those who don't have them seek to LIBERALIZE the rules and have more of these resources to flow their way. When it comes to international aide and financing the liberalist American sounds very CONSERVATIVE. When it comes to understanding the plight of the Mexican father to depart his family and come to the United States illegally in order to work and feed his family it seems that many of you are...

What are the great acheivements that Asian Americans make in this country? Where is the strong bloc of Asian Americans in Congress and American politics? Where are the Asian CEO's of Fortune 500 companies? Who are the great Asian American artists, entertainers, writers, musicians? How is the Asian American community supporting their native Asian countries, communities, people? I guess you speak admiringly of this community because in large part they are segregated from the mainstream of...

True, these are sadly too absent from the Asian-American Community. There are good Asian-American musicians, artists and entertainers, I'm not sure I would say the entertainers are "great" (as in universally notoriable). Just like Afrian-Americans, Asian-Americans also face a glass ceiling in this country as well. They are expected by White Americans to be nothing more than businessmen and scientists. Just keep serving YT and keep their noses to the grind. I think some Asian-American...

OK, I will entertain this idea. Please explain how giving sufficient painkillers to some Black kid with a broken arm will threaten those in power? Please explain what benefit the American health system has in providing a lower level of medical care Blacks? I'm surprised you haven't argued the other way, b/c more healthy people equals less time lost on jobs, less time spent on unemployment or disability funds, and more productivity all around. That in turn equals more money flowing through...

To be clear, it is not my intent to deride the Asian American community in any way, just to compare it to the achievements of the African American one. CF constantly shits on African American culture while praising Asian American culture. Since he also seems to like to talk about "results" - then let's see them. If we are so dysfunctional why are we out-performing them; this while also enduring a myriad of additional obstacles to our success?

........more likely, it is our own Black community that is disgraceful..... LA's Failing Black Hospital Shunned As "Killer King" Posted on: 2004-12-07 16:57:42 Once a focus of black pride in South Central Los Angeles, the Martin Luther King, Jr./Drew Medical Center has, according to a devastating five-part expose in the Los Angeles Times, "a long history of harming, or even killing, those it was meant to serve." The Times series details one fatality after another due to misdiagnosis or other...

I think that this is such a relevant and interesting topic, I decided to bump it back up to the top of the discussion board. When I was in high school, I was fortunate enough to go to a presidential library and browse through the declassified files of that administration. I was incensed to discover that long before WWII so-called American citizens were being spied on and massive amounts of information was being documented an stored on non-violent organizations. Organizations such as the...

Kresge, that's a good question. I suppose the immediate context is Melesi's accusation that I don't give his posts a fair reading. But to be fair, it goes far beyond that. As a single non-Christian, who has just moved to a new town, living in the Bible belt, in a place where the first thing people ask you when they meet you is "Where do you go to church?", in a place where even in the online dating community the women all declare "You can't love me if you can't love Jesus", I frankly find...

could you at least READ threads before you post? what's your freakin point? the question, one more time... WHAT WHITE MUSIC/MUSO'S (IF ANY) MAKE YOU MOVE? gee whiz, why would I ask that question on an African American site? Ummmmmmmm.... maybe coz I am curious. You want to start a thread that asks "what black muso's get you movin'" then just do it. Hey... it's really easy to do. .

I am grieved to hear about your experience. I spent 12 years in academia as a college/university chaplain. Before my theological training, however, I obtained a B.S. in physics and mathematics, and an M.A. in physics. So I think that I might be able to relate to your situation from several positions. With respect to the AA community, I think that science and mathematics, little priority seems to be given to these disciplines. There seems to be much more of a connection with arts associated...

Here we go again folks. KEVIN - Can you tell me WHO ON THIS BOARD has the qualifications to "TEACH YOU SCHIT"? I know that you are intellectually SUPERIOR to most of us. The fact that you have been bestowed a the certification of "doctorate" by the American education which attempts to certify the KNOWLEDGE and LEARNING that a person acquires. We all know that a Black man, having not finished high school and never gone to college - COULD GO TO THE LIBRARY FOR YEARS AND YEARS (as I see some...

African Americans are out-performing Asian americans??? We outperform them in politics, and representation across the board, but Asian Americans make more income than any other group including white americans. And they do excellent when it comes to education.

So they get good grades and get good jobs. Where is the impact of their achievement on American society? Again, I have no interest in denigrating the Asian community. CF makes the connection between culture and achievement. He constantly praises their culture and assassinates ours. I simply ask the question - if their culture is so wonderful and if culture and achievement are connected, then where is the impact in America of that superior culture? CF likes their culture, I believe, precisely...

Perhaps in part, but I think that it is more deeply rooted in the particular experiences of oppression in the African American community,e.g., they hypersexualization of the African in the white mind which fulled the physical and social emasculation of African men, contributed to the rape and abuse of African women. In the wake of this, African Americans have tended to come down hard what they deem as sexual perversions that might perpetuate what they believe to be destructive stereotypes of...

Constructive Feedback?? Sunnubian?? Comments on the actual question at hand? And that set of questions make up one whole question to the tune of the one quoted, in bold, above. Now, with Asian-Americans "making more income" than any other group and excelling in education... YOUR ANSWERS? As for these blanket statements:So please make sure you are comparing Like Sets in every demographical sense. And even with that... YOUR ANSWERS?

EP, Yes, John Locke and the idea of universal rights is very European, though they did not spring full-grown from the head of the French Revolution, especially that part of it that so quickly degenerated into the Reign of Terror and was well criticized by such as Edmund Burke, a supporter of much of the American philosophy. But this couldn't have arisen without the ground of the Christian faith. It's no wonder that the Magna Carta was forced on King John in England. It was a first step...

While it's clear you wanted those to be two related questions, one clarifying the other... it's clear those are two separate questions with two different answers. As you've had to concede, Native Americans have, to some extent (even in a woefully inadequate sense) "received" Reparations. Evenso, it's clear Native Americans haven't been adequately compensated. That goes without saying especially since I've already said it. As to whether a Reparations victory for African-Americans would aid...

Kanye West claimed during Hurricane Katrina that "George Bush doesn't care about Black people." Kanye West was half-right. Bush doesn't care about Black people, but he doesn't care about non-rich White either, that's what alot of people seem to be missing. In fact, the whole Republican Party is geared towards rich-White business-owners, managers and the wealthy, elite capital class. They only pander to working-class Whites becuase they know working-class Whites make up a major voting bloc of...

Ignatius Sancho (1729-1780) (excerpts only) From African Slave to Composer & Author Born on a Slave Ship Near Guinea, West Africa Ignatius Sancho was one of the few Africans in 18th-century England to become a member of the middle class, highly literate and an amateur musician and composer. Birth Ignatius Sancho was born in 1729 on a British slave ship near Guinea, West Africa, enroute to the Spanish West Indies. He was orphaned in infancy. Ignatius Sancho: An African Man of Letters is a...

HB, Yes, the northern abolitionist movement included people who were not Christians, but that really is beside the point. Wiliam Wilberforce in England was a Christian who almost a hundred years before the American Civil War spearheaded the British abolitionist movement. Christians here were encouraged by his success and worked very hard to abolish slavery all through the country. It's what led to our Civil War, you'll remember. They worked with many who were not Christian, but they worked...

Affirmative Action: Who Benefits? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contents A Policy That Suffers an Identity Crisis Answers to Frequently Asked Questions About Affirmative Action Where Do We Go From Here? Bibliography -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Policy That Suffers an Identity Crisis Few social policy issues have served as a better gauge of racial and ethnic divisions among the American...

Q: has anyone been to see these collections??? Quote: "Sources created by African-Americans are important since they are based on the actual experiences of blacks and reflect black perspectives and interpretations on a variety of issues. The existence of such records is rare, particularly during the period of slavery, causing the African-American voices that do exist to seem all the more precious." The collections listed below are diverse in content, perspective, and format.

Unfortunately this was the next logical step. First the FBI compiled a "test database" of people's driver's license's in South Carolina and Florida back around 1999. Now all states require, at least the ones I've lived in TX and NY, your fingerprint. And if you are in the military, they also require your fingerprint to get your military ID. I recently saw a story about how scientists created a chip with all of your information on it that can be implanted into your body. So once again, the...

Isome, hold your tongue! Don't you dare put down our great nation! Why do you hate America so much? If you hate America and Americans so much, why don't you move to Cuba, North Korea or Vietnam with the rest of your "Socialist" Commie people! See how good the life is over there. This country was founded on Capitalism, and anyone who says different is un-American. Socialism and Communism are dead. Capitalism is THE ONLY WAY. RESISTENCE IS FUTILE. You must join with us. You must serve our...

The problem isn't that he doesn't say it. The problem is that he doesn't say it in the way you want him to. Paul lived 2000 years ago in an entirely different culture and had as his objective the survival of believers in Christ. You cannot demand that he speak as a twenty-first century American (or even as a nineteenth-century Northerner). That's quite an imposition of your beliefs on someone who cannot defend or explain himself.

You haven't been listening. William Wilberforce and those many English Christians who followed him did follow Paul's example. The Christians in the American North did follow Paul's example. It was the basis for their activism for abolition. The "Christians" you really are talking about are the Christians in the American South, a minority of Christians, by the way. Many more fought for slavery's end than defended it pre-war. The reason teh Southeners defended slavery was because of the pride...

Unfortunately, these numbers and what they mean have become "normalized", in the sense put forward by Edward Herman in his book "Triumph of the Market". It can only be so, as capitalism panders to the uncontrolled greed and self-interest of the few. These statistics have to be accepted, normalized or else people would realize something is wrong and this is a threat to capitalist culture. And there is a method to all this as well. One of the cornerstones is to promote the banality of evil.

"Former Aide's Guilty Plea Implicates Congressman Brett M. Pfeffer details conspiracy and bribery claims against Democrat William J. Jefferson. By Ralph Vartabedian Times Staff Writer January 12, 2006 Rep. William J. Jefferson (D-La.) sought bribes, jobs for his children and other favors for providing political support to a company setting up Internet service in Nigeria, according to a former aide's guilty plea, entered Wednesday in federal court in Alexandria, Va. In an alleged conspiracy,...

I didn't finish his book, "Civilization or Barbarism"... but love what i did read. This may turn into something very interesting and divisive. I saw someone on a talk show who used this DNA type testing and found that eventhough he "looked" AFRICAN American his DNA said he was white.

And, since highlighted, African-American views then are, in Taranto's view, illegitimate or rather can only be legitimated when and if White people (a substantial minority of them, at least) hold the same views/perspectives or otherwise agree with so-called "appeals" from Black Folk. Racist Arrogance or no, it is the very imposition of and/or insistence on WHITE SUPREMACY. White Views RULE. They are the norm, the standard bearer - The Measuring Stick. Or so it is implied. I really don't...

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