Context of comment:The Local 100 list and completing it is one of the most popular lists that MV has. It allows the time-poor to get out and do some interesting hillwalking but with minimal travel time. It encourages people to explore their local area and minimise travel impact.

However it has become apparent that the Local 100 list has some difficulties, particularly after when we changed the Binnion spec to include summits down to 100m prominence . Some summits are effectively unavailable to hillwalkers due to their being on sea stacks or hard to get to islands. Some summits are effectively unavailable because even after representations to landowners access isn't permitted. Or reaching the summits may provoke unnecessary friction with landowners, something MV doesn't want to be associated with.

In view of these difficulties and going back to the original aims for a hillwalking list that is local it was clear that something needed to change. After discussion at the committee the list has now been slightly modified. You still have to reach 100 Local summits. However you are now offered 110 summits to choose from. You can select which 100 you wish to reach. You can use other members reports to see which places may have difficulties to guide your choice. This change meets the original requirements but avoids some of the unnecessary difficulties.

This change is now reflected in the Summiteers Hall of Fame where some members now have more than 100 summits visited in the Local 100 listing. It is now only necessary to do 100 to complete the Local 100 - any more is up to you!
One implication of this is that a number of people who had done nearly 100 and also done other local summits, not included in the previous calculation will suddenly have completed 100 or more in the new calculation. If you are one of the few people who suddenly find that your number of Local 100 visits has gone above 100, remember it is still the same achievement - reaching 100 Local summits. You just reached it a bit quicker.

The Local 100 (pre 2014) list still exists for the time being and it is calculated on the same basis as it always was -- 100 Local Summits as present in MV's listings up to Jan 2014. We may not support this indefinitely, however if you were working towards this list, then you can continue to do so. (It may include sea stacks and inaccessible places however)Additional points:As always with any change there may be some unexpected side-effects or errors in the software. Let us know at admin -- at -- mountainviews.ie

David-Guenot2017-08-30 13:46:06

An Eadarna Mhór

Context of comment:Just found out the actual co-ordinates of An Eadarna Mhór on the MV site seem to be wrong, as the summit rather lies further to the W, inside the 400m contour line (point F as stated by Harry Goodman). I also noticed it was the same on OSI map #1, so I suppose the two errors might be linked somehow ?Message:Maybe we should consider Harry Goodman's Point F as the correct co-ordinates until some more precise measuring is operated ?

simon32017-08-23 10:40:33

Addition of "All Irish features" list etc

Context of comment:A new list and total has been added which shows All Irish features visited. So if you mark as visited any summit, coastal summit, coastal feature, island feature then this total will go up. You can also produce a list of all these features.
Currently there are 2121 features of all types.

We continue to have the "All Irish summits" list as we have had for some years. It deals with all summits that are not coastal hills. It includes summits on islands that have at least 100m prominence (ie Binnions) or those in the Carns or Arderins list. Bit of a mouthful, but basically it's the same group we have had for years.Message:As always with anything new, look out for errors or inconsistencies and let us know at admin@mountainviews.ie

simon32017-08-09 17:49:03

Mayo Coastal Hills added.

Context of comment:We have added 33 Coastal Hills for Mayo today. One place that may be of interest is the area around Benwee Head at the north west corner of Mayo. We already had a few summits like Glinsk there and now there several more. Also on Belmullet and in near other parts of the Mayo coastline.

If you are thinking of going up for the October Members Organised Meet then you might be interested to have a look at some these wild places. We would appreciate comments!

Just to remind. A Coastal Hill is a hill of at least 50m with a drop from the top or prominence of 20m and which is within 1000m of the hightide mark.

Many thanks for member madfrankie for getting this data together.Additional points:Inevitably there are errors in new data like this. If you spot anything, let us know at admin@mountainviews.ie

Context of comment:Maps shown by MountainViews, particularly the "Outline" map.Message:You may be wondering what happened to the Overview map. Suddenly it has sprouted circles off the coast. The area markers look moth-eaten.

One purpose of the "Overview" map is to allow you to use one click to move the "Detail" map to a particular area of the island of Ireland and view the places there.

The circles are to help you move to the coastal areas which contain islands, coastal hills and other coastal features.

The moth-eaten summit areas now show more accurately where the summits are. Previously these were represented by a shape whose boundary never turned inward. The new outlines are more accurate and overlap less often.

There's various other detail changes. Hovering over a place on the detail map will now show you what lists the given place are in.

For those interested in modern map tech, the new area outlines are "Concave Hull" replacing the "Convex Hulls" we had before.Additional points:As with all changes, inevitably there are going to be bugs, irritations and suggestions for improvement.
Send them as always to admin@mountainviews.ie

simon32017-08-06 07:37:00

Achillbeg Comments or not?

Context of comment:Achillbeg N & S comments.

A member recently pointed out to me that there are no comments for either Achillbeg Island S or N, yet member thought there used to be such comments.

A party of MountainViews members visited the place in July 2014.

I agree with the member that yes, I would have thought there would be a mountain comment or two. However I can't find any in the database. There are two tracks such as

http://mountainviews.ie/track/2617/

various summit position corrections

various comments such as

http://mountainviews.ie/motleyviews/general/comment/7401/

but can't find any summit comments for either place.

Can anyone remember differently or is it just that there never were summit comments for either place?Message:Can you remember a mountain comment for either of these places?

Context of comment:Some background. MountainViews has had some islands for many years, for example we have had say Inishnabro, a mountain of the coast of Dingle in SW Ireland. It wasn't so much we had this place as an island as that it had a peak which met the criteria for one our lists, in this case the Binnions, summits with a prominence over 100m

Inisnabro is the sort of wild interesting place that can only be reached with some form of non-public transport such as a rented boat or a sea-kayak. There are hundreds of islands around the island of Ireland, some small, some very large. When we were offered the possibility of using a list of islands we jumped at the chance. The opportunity came from David Walsh, sea-kayaker and author of Oileáin "The Irish Islands Guide". With David's permission we took the geographical data from this magnificent book and constructed the list of additional islands that we have added today.
There are some 549 extra islands. The considerable work to transcribe the data was done by Mark Brennan with normalisation done by Simon Stewart.Message:So now we have the extra islands inserted. The data we have includes something of the way MountainViews does things and something of the way sea-kayakers as in Oileáin do things. So we have the information about highest point on each island as the position and the position of a suggested landing place suitable for kayakers as an additional field. Islands are not included in "Mountain Areas" unless they meet the criteria for one or more of our other lists such as the Binnions. Instead they are grouped by county such as "Kerry Islands"

You can now see the islands on the "main area display", the first page most people view when looking at the website. You can do much the same as you can with summits such as entering information about them with photos, including gps tracks around them, clicking where you have visited them etc.

I suppose you might ask "What has this to do with hillwalking or even walking?" The short answer is that for traditional hillwalkers not immediately a lot. The longer answer is that you may find that the islands include a huge reservoir of interesting wild space that you can explore over time. A few can be reached "On Foot" (we attempt to say which), you can hire a boat or take up sea-kayaking. Of course, if you are already a sea-kayaker then we hope this will be a useful resource to allow you visualise where the islands of David Walsh's book are and to mark which ones you have visited. There is a rudimentary facility for showing who has visited what which will be improved over time.

Also, can we mention that the islands information is part of a further project to include coastal hills and coastal features such as headlands and points. The next phase will be coastal hills.Additional points:Finally, although the data in Oileáin is extremely mature and virtually error free, the process of getting it to MountainViews with additional information wasn't. We expect there are dozens of errors of various sorts. You can propose changes using the "Propose Places Database Change" button. So if you find the highpoint of an island that has been assigned the wrong county, the wrong position, the wrong status as to whether it can be reached on foot etc, make a change proposal.

ENJOY!

simon32017-02-08 12:46:27

Website is failing periodically

Context of comment:[ partially resolved ] For the last few days the website has been crashing or going slow.Bear with us while we attempt to resolve this.

simon32017-01-12 09:50:08

System problems

Context of comment:[Resolved] For the last few days we have been experiencing apparent difficulties, cause unknown.
This has been manifesting itself as various parts of the system failing leading to odd screens or sometimes nothing happening.Message:We are working on it.

simon32017-01-08 21:29:09

Re Hill of Uisneach

Context of comment:Sounds interesting BryanMessage:Could I suggest you use the "Propose Database Change" option for your suggestion.

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