The Z8 is another demographic than the 1 series crowd. The Z8 is the ultimate BMW beside the original M1 in 1979-80.

You own a Z8?

I love the styling of it and the grace but every review I read/watched said it drove like shit for what it costs. It isn't a drives car and if thats the case I'd say its in now way the "Ultimate BMW", BMW's are drives cars always have been.
The Z8 while beautiful if it doesn't drive well would be the ultimate MB or "place other lookers car here".

If the M2 is a 4 cylinder and anything like the engine in the 320i I think the 1M will become something like an E30. Clean E30s are selling for crazy money. Ironically the E30 is a 4 banger, so who knows. Personally, I don't care, I love driving and my car makes each drive a sublime experience. I will never say never, but I have not seen anything that has more appeal to me.

The Z8 is another demographic than the 1 series crowd. The Z8 is the ultimate BMW beside the original M1 in 1979-80. And I dont think BMW will ever make another Halo car. I have always had my eye on a Z8 and I finally pulled the trigger back in Jan. The build quality of the Z8 is amazing, v8 power with the 6 speed manual is awesome. It is a special occasion car, whereas the 1M can be driven everyday which much more enjoyment.

Congrats, my dealership had a black one for sale a few months ago, a client of me has one imported from Germany. For 140k euros... not so long ago...

Special looks...It misses the limited slip diff to be the car it wants to be imho and well the E39 'M' V8 is a nice companion but that's about it. It's a car in a league of its own nontheless but imo definitely not comparable to a M1 tbh, M1 is Motorsport....maybe it's more cute

Z stands for future in BMW language but it looks like a 'modern' teutonic retro-ish interpretation of a Cobra(which is a good thing!), so where is the Zukunft in that gorgeous car?

I love the styling of it and the grace but every review I read/watched said it drove like shit for what it costs. It isn't a drives car and if thats the case I'd say its in now way the "Ultimate BMW", BMW's are drives cars always have been.
The Z8 while beautiful if it doesn't drive well would be the ultimate MB or "place other lookers car here".

The Z8 isn't my cup of tea personally, a family member has one so I've had quite a bit of seat time; I feel like I'm getting out of a tractor when I'm done driving it. But, it is a thing of beauty and has a lot of various heritage bits. Know a guy that bought two and stuck one in a bubble boy type deal with filtered air etc.

Anyway, obviously the Z8 isn't the same type of car as a 1M..if you think thats what I was getting at...well then herpdy derp. I was simply making the point that BMW's best recent car they've really produced isn't far from 100k used, so the 1M in comparison doesn't match up.

Don't get me wrong, I like the 1m. I just think it doesn't add enough value for the massive increase in cost, 60-70k is pretty nuts, 100k is ludicrous...but if you can get it, run with it

I love the styling of it and the grace but every review I read/watched said it drove like shit for what it costs. It isn't a drives car and if thats the case I'd say its in now way the "Ultimate BMW", BMW's are drives cars always have been.
The Z8 while beautiful if it doesn't drive well would be the ultimate MB or "place other lookers car here".

On the Z8 I think most people miss the point of this car, until you actually sit in one and drive it, you cant really believe what you read in the Magazines. The Z8 has 400hp with a proper 6 speed manual, and I would not at all compare it to a MB or call it a looker. The Z8 is a modern interpretation of the iconic BMW 507 roadster of the 1950's. The Z8 is a big car if you have seen one in person, its not a race car or meant to be tracked. It's a piece of art work. When I stated it was the "Ultimate BMW" I meant it is built and put together like no other BMW I have seen before, and I have owned quite a few. As a BMW enthusiast this is the car I wanted to add to my collection and is on many other enthusiasts wish lists. Yes, I also currently own a 1988 e30 M3 which is a great car also as many of you already know.