ERP for Pharma Mfg. Co. in Egypt

I am looking for ERP applications available in Egypt for Pharmaceutical Mfg. Plants. Are there any specific ones that I can evaluate? It is a small to medium segment plant with maximum 30 - 40 users.
Regards,
Yps

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I am looking for ERP applications available in Egypt for Pharmaceutical Mfg. Plants. Are there any specific ones that I can evaluate? It is a small to medium segment plant with maximum 30 - 40 users.
Regards,
Yps

Nice to see your mail.Here I am sending my company details.Plase revert back to me as soon as possible if you are interested.
Further, we take immense pleasure in introducing our company Sigma Infosolutions Ltd, as a leading Software solution provider across globe. Sigma infosolutions Ltd is the part of a 35 years old SIGMA GROUP, having business interests in Chemical Manufacturing & Handicrafts Exports.
We specialize in providing end to end software solutions across various industry verticals Like Manufacturing, Electronics, Distribution, Telecom, Banking & Finance etc. We also have the expertise in offering services in the following areas.
1. ERP solutions,
2. CRM solutions.
3. Analytical Reporting & Business Intelligence Solutions.
4. Development of Websites & Web Portals.
5. Sales Management Solutions.
6. E-Commerce Solutions.
In addition to the above we are pleased to inform you, that we have the following component based solutions to manage various aspects of your business processes efficiently yet effortlessly.
1. Stores & Inventory Management Solution.
2. Purchase Management Solution.
3. Payment & C Form Follow-up Solution
4. Service Call Management Solution.
5. AMC Management Solution.
6. Automation of Dispatch Details to customers through E-mail / SMS.
7. Vendor Management Solution.
8. Order Management Solution.
Please let us know whether you are looking out for a vendor to automate your business processes either partly of fully, so that we would be glad to assist you in this initiative of yours which would bring in lot of efficiency in handling of your business at ease.
Hope we are in line with your expectations & looking forward to an earliest opportunity for association.
A line of response in this regard would be highly appreciated.

Yes our ERP system product is suitable for ur organization if u
want more detail about our ERP system then give me detail about ur
company i will mail u whole decription of our ERP system and its
module .

UNIQUE SERVICES OF ENTERPRISE MANAGEMENT SOLUTION
How we are different from other ERP Vendors :
l We are the first ERP Vendor in the World giving money back guarantee
on Software and
Consultancy Charges with Interest ;
l India's most comprehensive Business Software Solution for all kind
of Business / Industries;
l A Real – Time Information System .
l We are not only selling our Products / Services but also helps in
upgradation of the clients
business with help of CGS, P- CMM, ISO 9001 :2000 QMS, ISO 14001, CSR
and many more.
l We have unique ERP Modules for Risk & Disaster Management, Strategic
Planning, Innovation
Management, Organization Management to solve all kinds of problems;
l Highly Customized Enterprise Solutions for all requirements of Business ;
l Individual Client Attention to meet out organizational specific
demands , so that we can provide
him appropriate Customized Product / Services ;
l Round the clock Customer Helpline Services.
l Approved Accounting and Financial Modules by a team of eminent
Chartered Accountants ,
Company Secretary and Legal Experts ;
l We have covered every possible aspects of business - H.R, Marketing,
S.C.M, Tax, Finance,
Corporate Management ;
l Automatic documentation of Accounting of events in Sales and Production and
l One Stop Resource Center for Custom Built Software development,
Dynamic Web Solutions , Office
Automation Tools, Hardware and Networking.

Hi
30-40, not sure it seems a small company, check with
oracle sales, we have good footprint in the egyptian
pharm. industry. May be u can check "SAP One" as well,
its similar to Oracle Special Edition, however Oracle
Egypt and Egyptian Gov't provide 50% discount, as far
as I know.
Regards,
Alaa Lasheen.

You have made a very astute observation. This forum seems to be a 'proving ground' for
companies to get free advice about finding and/or implementing an ERP System, software
companies selling their wares, consultants offering assistance or trying to impress people
with their savvy, or you are a consultant who is over their head wondering "now what?".
Regardless, you will not find a "SOLUTION" here. What lies ahead of you is a lot of very
hard work for all parties involved. I was offering my heartfelt best wishes for you in
your current role.

Somewhere in the above may be the source of a package that will work for
you. If you also Google it and go beyond the first page I am sure you will
find other references.
I do not advocate nor, do I know any details on any of the above sources or
software packages.
I hope this provides you with some of the "Luck" that Mike was referring
to. Once you find a group of packages look for the ones that are being used
in a similar manner to you application. Try to talk to the users before you
talk to the "package peddlers". Be certain your Business Processes are well
defined and have all the non value added elements eliminated before you
start your implementation-other wise you tend to get locked into inefficient
Business Processes, which is as bad as not having a good software system.

Not sure who Sigma Infosolutions is. Do you represent an ERP package or
custom development option?

However, based on your post you are doing a really bad job for your company.
If I was the person who had asked for feedback I would never consider
"reverting back". Based on your post you show no knowledge of Pharma
manufacturing requirements. You just present a laundry list of information
systems and or modules or an ERP package. You do not know whether your
package is a fit because you have not taken the time to find out what even
the most basic requirements are for this company. Not the kind of system
solution provider I would want to consider.

Nor have you indicated that
you have any Pharma installs in Egypt to meet his legal requirements with
your package. Can your system handle all of the process and QA requirements
of Pharma?

Know I maybe being hard on you, but you really are doing what is the worst
kind of post on this site. A blatant marketing pitch with no real
information for the gentlemen asking the questions. How about providing him
with some of your competitors. If you are familiar with the Pharma
manufacturing market in Egypt what are his choices?

I am looking for options to automate Materials Management, Accounts and
parts of Payroll.
My budget is around USD. 250,000.
UNIQUE SERVICES OF ENTERPRISE MANAGEMENT SOLUTION
How we are different from other ERP Vendors :
l We are the first ERP Vendor in the World giving money back guarantee
on Software and
Consultancy Charges with Interest ;
l India's most comprehensive Business Software Solution for all kind
of Business / Industries;
l A Real - Time Information System .
l We are not only selling our Products / Services but also helps in
upgradation of the clients
business with help of CGS, P- CMM, ISO 9001 :2000 QMS, ISO 14001, CSR
and many more.
l We have unique ERP Modules for Risk & Disaster Management, Strategic
Planning, Innovation
Management, Organization Management to solve all kinds of problems;
l Highly Customized Enterprise Solutions for all requirements of
Business ;
l Individual Client Attention to meet out organizational specific
demands , so that we can provide
him appropriate Customized Product / Services ;
l Round the clock Customer Helpline Services.
l Approved Accounting and Financial Modules by a team of eminent
Chartered Accountants ,
Company Secretary and Legal Experts ;
l We have covered every possible aspects of business - H.R, Marketing,
S.C.M, Tax, Finance,
Corporate Management ;
l Automatic documentation of Accounting of events in Sales and
Production and
l One Stop Resource Center for Custom Built Software development,
Dynamic Web Solutions , Office
Automation Tools, Hardware and Networking.

I understand that I will not find any "SOLUTION" here. What I was trying to find using my post is any person/ vendor who might have done an ACTUAL implementation of Pharma Mfg. ERP solution in Egypt and can share his/ her experience with me so that I can try to avoid some of the pitfalls. For example - screens should be in Arabic or something.
Regards,
Yps

Well- I can't offer much info . But the pharmaceutical selling business in the middle east is a little different. The prices for the drugs are pretty much regulated. So when they sell to distributors, discounts are virtually always offerred but only in terms of Bonus quantities and not in value.
The manufacturing would be no different from any other pharma manufacturing. And yes, quite a few screens would have to be in Arabic. I don't think Egyptian currency goes to 3 decimal places so that should make it easier than Jordan and Oman.
And system has to be user friendly and customisable. Customisation would tend to go beyond making reports.
Rahul

Is there any specific product that pharmaceutical companies are using in Egypt for Pharma resource planning? I am also aware that screens have to be in Arabic. I will check the decimal thing. The issue of customization is tricky. I don't believe that we should customize beyond a point. Comments/ advice?
With best regards,
Yps

Hi Ypschita,
You are right on customization. A good guide is the 85/15-80/20 rule. Beyond that the packages is not a good fit and I do think that is wrong selection has been done.

Sage Middle East is doing good business, met up with some of them at the Sage Vision 2007 recently. They seems to have good installed based on Sage X3 (adonix)which has a process mfg version. Also Sage Accpac ERP is for the lowwer Mid Range. Check them out. And Good Luck.
Robert

Well, I know they have some Arabic language customization for Middle East market.
Since the merger of Sage & Accpac I am sure they will be able to offer you suitable software from either staples.
Robert

Yes. Hopefully Sage or Glovia should work. I am looking at both the
options. I have also contacted one person in Egypt who had written a
paper on ERP implementation in Egypt. Let me see how it works.
Regards,
Yps

Dear Ypschita & Robert,
Greetings! If you're looking for an extraordinary ERP solution with fabulous capabilities and features covering process manufacturing industries involving formulas and so on while supporting RTL languages, you may need to have a look at Lawson M3 [www.lawson.com] and they are represented in the MENA region thru a partner in Egypt called Accentia [www.accentia-me.com]. Cheers!

Dears,
There are other solutions and options that need to be tabled based on your needs and size of implementation. I can say that Oracle Financials, BAAN are strong candidates too based on my knowledge in the area. In Jordan I know that many medium size pharma companies deployed Baan and one major player there deployed SAP and another are using Oracle suite. You need to start with a full understanding of the manufacturing process, global and local needs and the flexibility of the system to meet the quick changes required to support the MENA market needs. Especially because most pharma companies in the MENA region produce generic drugs and export to differrent markets with different needs and requirements.
My two cents based on working as the director of technology and was envolved in the evaluation of a number of ERP solutions for one of the large pharma companies in the region before I return back to Canada.
Hisham Alzanoon
www.salespharma.net