Comments on: Mariners, Rays discussing David Price, Ben Zobrist tradehttp://mlb.nbcsports.com/2014/07/17/mariners-padres-discussing-david-price-ben-zobrist-trade/
Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball.Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:04:43 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: mattdawg77http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2014/07/17/mariners-padres-discussing-david-price-ben-zobrist-trade/comment-page-2/#comment-742578
Sat, 19 Jul 2014 18:59:33 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=529955#comment-742578The M’s pitching already has one of the best ERA’s in the league (even without Paxton and Walker) . Unless they pitch shutout baseball with every start, they will NEVER be a serious playoff contender. Why? Because their offense sucks horrendously! If you literally cannot score runs, you cannot win ball games…period. One bat (Cano) is not enough. Unless the front offense can get that through their thick skulls, Seattle fans will be forced to endure another decade of lousy baseball.
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Sat, 19 Jul 2014 05:51:33 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=529955#comment-742444Hey fans..

So here is something to think about. The Mariners NEED to get better – there is no doubt. I think the Rays have been very unreasonable with their request and if you think about it logically, this deal does not make any sense for the M’s. This is why:

When you have a guy like Miller who can get it done (albeit uncomfortably sometimes) you can chalk your shortstop up to be the throw away guy in your lineup. In fact you could even throw in one outfielder in to your eighth spot and he can be light hitting too. The Mariners don’t have a problem at short is the point.

They DO have a big problem in their outfield. They absolutely need a power hitting right handed outfielder NOW and if they are going to over trade for anyone (NOT BYRD) then it needs to be an outfielder. The Mariners currently have one of the best pitching staffs in all of baseball WITHOUT Walker and Paxton for most of the year. So when Paxton gets back in a couple weeks they are going to get BETTER!!! This leaves them no reason to be bullied by the Rays – the White Sox on the other hand should feel free to bully the crap out of us and send Viciedo west!

The second Wild Card team, who has played very well and show signs of improving in the second half, should not be backed in to a corner to trade for pieces that they do not need. Go get an outfielder Jack – a really good one!

He had a truly dreadful May, posting 161/.250/.214, but I don’t think it’s fair to say he sucks because of 1 bad month. His other months were:

April: .302/.390/.434
June: .245/.341/.445
July: .263/.354/.442

His slugging percentage is down, but 2 for 2 with 2 doubles tonight brings him up a lot closer to career norms.

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Fri, 18 Jul 2014 20:34:18 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=529955#comment-742184Cano is financing his best friend to make a rap album…he’s in seattle recording right now. He did a Seahawks freestyle that is pretty good…
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Fri, 18 Jul 2014 20:11:12 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=529955#comment-742171Those advanced stats are really pretty lmao. Zobrist is hitting .260 with 5 hr’s and 5 steals (3 caught stealing). He’s barely slugging .400 which is laughable. If that’s your idea of “excellent”, god bless you.
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Fri, 18 Jul 2014 16:06:47 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=529955#comment-742031Has the American education system really become this bad?
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Fri, 18 Jul 2014 16:03:10 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=529955#comment-742029Based on your comments, I can tell you are an idiot and don’t know s^*t about baseball.
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Fri, 18 Jul 2014 15:56:09 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=529955#comment-742024Hey, guys that don’t want to leave areas make me jealous. He is going to be very rich and he can tell people where he wants to work. We should all do so well.
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Fri, 18 Jul 2014 15:18:13 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=529955#comment-741989Anything is too high of a price considering that Price has stated repeatedly he does not want to be In Seattle and he does not want to leave the South period. Guys that don’t want to leave certain areas make me laugh. You want to win? I hope he end up in Colorado or somewhere he really hates life!
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Fri, 18 Jul 2014 15:01:05 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=529955#comment-741979I like the idea of adding Zobrist to the deal. Bringing a true right handed power hitter to Safeco is a recipe for disaster. But a line drive hitter with a good OBP a little pop can be very successful. Having him in the line-up in place of Ackley would be a huge step forward.

They could still go get Byrd if they wanted, all he’ll cost is a couple of minor prospects and lots of money.

My bigger question is Zobrist. I am a big fan. But he is 33. Still extremely dependable, but his power has tailed off. How will he age? And they have Cano at second, which limits his flexibility. Jennings or Joyce might be a better and less expensive fit.

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Fri, 18 Jul 2014 12:34:38 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=529955#comment-741910If the Cubs want him, why don’t they just wait a year and a half til he hits the open market? They won’t contend this year or next, and would have to give up multiple prospects so that they could have a top 5 pitcher on a team that wins 65 games.

The Rays are great about signing extensions to young players…Longo, Archer, Zobrist, Shields, Davis, Moore. I’m sure they tried it with Price, and he obviously said no. With 15 months til he’s a free agent, why would this change now that he’s with the Cubs?

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Fri, 18 Jul 2014 12:02:40 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=529955#comment-741900I feel this is a smoke screen. A trade with the Cubs makes more sense. Seattle is less likely to actually sign him to a long term deal which means trading him to SEA is really trading him to a rival when NYY, BOS or BAL sings him heading into 2016. Not smart.
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Fri, 18 Jul 2014 11:51:12 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=529955#comment-741896You need a guarantee to make the playoffs this year, but you okay with the assumption that all of those prospects will pan out and make the Mariners a winning club next year? I don’t understand your thinking on that one. This isn’t a 3 month rental, you get Price next year too. David Price this year and next year is more of a guarantee than Walker, Paxton, and Peterson combined. Plus, once he pitches in that cavernous Seattle stadium, he might not want to leave.

I get that Mariners got burned with the Erik Bedard trade, but that trade was an outlier among trades for ace pitchers. Usually the team acquiring the ace is the winning team (Roy Halladay, CC Sabathia, 3 Cliff Lee trades, etc) in the long run or at the very least it works for both teams.

For whatever reason, they are still in the race for the division, and lead the second wild card. They have 2 very good SP, an adequate SP, and the rest are either hurt, too young, or bums. Zobrist and Price will add 5 wins to your total this year, and about 10 to next year’s. Go for it now, because this is not exactly some excellent baseball team. But they are in the drivers seat, and come postseason, anybody can win. The 83 win Cards proved that in ’06.

My goodness, you only have 4 guys, starters or not, with an OPS over .680. That is pitiful! But again, with only 2 good pitchers, and only 2 good hitters, you find yourself in the hunt. Make a move, and try to go to the post season for the first time in over a decade. 27 mil for the 15 wins Price and Zobrist will add this year and next is so, so cheap.

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Fri, 18 Jul 2014 09:30:37 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=529955#comment-741877Please do not trade him to Seattle
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Fri, 18 Jul 2014 09:22:11 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=529955#comment-741876That’s just great. Mariners already have Cano. Where is stupid dumb ass Cashman? He must have something on Hal Steinbrenner because no one as stupid and inept as he is could possibly keep their job.
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Fri, 18 Jul 2014 08:31:31 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=529955#comment-7418732015: