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Re: DGM Chapter 217 Spoiler Thread

I don't think Link remembered Apocryphos. He seemed appalled that a Cardinal would be able to defeat Kanda (and spout massive angel wings). If he remembered Apocryphos, he would not be surprised and would not be questioning Central.

Am I the only one who thinks that Jasdevi are the most powerful Noah? They totally kicked the exorcists' ass in the Ark Arc. Krory didn't even really defeat them. It ended in a draw, though Jasdevi were definitely better off than Krory was (he was in a coma). I mean, Road and Tyki both had their asses kicked by Apocryphos, and Jasdevi managed to blow his head off. He's probably going to come back and give them a beatdown next chapter, but they definitely did more damage than Road or Tyki.

Re: DGM Chapter 217 Spoiler Thread

but this little fight remembered me of terminator2 movie... apo as t1000 xD apo will show a new trick and somehow kick jasdevi... they will retreat maybe leaving a message that earl took allen already... so he might leave a message in cetnral that allen joined noah and mark him as traitor

hard to tell but still the question is who is the heart... which is soooo persistent to chase allen so much and even order to kill him... is it someone close to allen...my guess its somone from central as apo was close to that place like a guard...

I hope for next chapter to see lenalee, road and allen..... lenalee hearing from kanda about allen and be kinda glad that he is holding together but learning that something different is chasing allen which will confirm leaviers worries about that prison incident.... and we see road take care of allen (the way she looked after earl) while sheril is pissed off in the doors xD

Kanda's thoughts: Johnny may be the cause of that wrongful outcome and worried about it.....Johnny was worried that it was the omen of a Fallen One. (T/N: 咎落ち = A Fallen One, you know, those who betray the Innocence)

Kanda's thoughts: I understood that from the beginning. Since I was holding onto Innocence, I did notcould not go with those two....

Kanda's thoughts: ...and I saw them off.

SFX: PI CHI!

SFX Pi chi!

Kanda: "What's this....?"

Smooth hair guy: "He's over there."

Tiedoll's small text bubble: "Fumu"

Tiedoll: "Well then, I guess you guys are being beaten by one's own game.Kanda would just beat you guys up.
"Please keep watch while I talk [to him]."

Smooth hair guy: "Ha... Yes sir!"

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Kanda's thoughts: If Johnny was brought to safety, then the objective was fulfilled.

Kanda's thoughts continuing on in the boxes: As for that idiot bean sprout, he is that type of....Idiot bean-sprout needs a guy like him. (T/N: that guy = Johnny)

Re: DGM Chapter 217 Spoiler Thread

Originally Posted by Jaymie

I don't think Link remembered Apocryphos. He seemed appalled that a Cardinal would be able to defeat Kanda (and spout massive angel wings). If he remembered Apocryphos, he would not be surprised and would not be questioning Central.

Am I the only one who thinks that Jasdevi are the most powerful Noah? They totally kicked the exorcists' ass in the Ark Arc. Krory didn't even really defeat them. It ended in a draw, though Jasdevi were definitely better off than Krory was (he was in a coma). I mean, Road and Tyki both had their asses kicked by Apocryphos, and Jasdevi managed to blow his head off. He's probably going to come back and give them a beatdown next chapter, but they definitely did more damage than Road or Tyki.

Good point, I forgot that Link's been keeping a close eye on Allen, Kanda and Johnny, so naturally he would see a huge explosive showdown in the middle of town.

I'll wait to see what the other Noah are capable of before making an assesment of who's the most powerful besides the Earl. Also remmember that the art of a battle is a lot more diverse in D gray man than in most other Shonens in that elements like trickery and elusiveness are also major factors that can influence the outcome of a fight. Especially considerring that not all Noah's fight with their fists. Added to that, I think Road even stated in the Noah's ark arc that Jasdebi's bond is their strength as well as their weakness. I think another one of their weaknesses was their immaturity, but they seem to have abandoned some of that after their interaction with Krory. Though I will admit that they really do have one of the more frightenning abilities, I'm betting on Tryde (Noah of Judgement) to be the next strongest thing after the Earl given the nature of his responsibility in the noah family.

Re: DGM Chapter 217 Spoiler Thread

Tim died???!!! NOOOOOO!!! That stupid Apo! How could he kill Tim??? Somebody save him! I hope Tim isn't dead. I speak a little bit Japanese, so I understand something. Kanda'll be a general? And come on Jasdevi, kill that stupid Apo!!! But I really miss Allen too. I thought he appear in that chapter. And where is Lavi too???

Re: DGM Chapter 217 Spoiler Thread

Thanks for your hard work on the translation, tgirl and verduister!
Really appreciate it!

Fixed, and you're welcome, relory! ^__^

Originally Posted by verduister

More corrections. Pay a little more attention to particles and verb forms

DO NOT USE FOR SCANLATIONS.

I'll try. Even with knowing the right verb forms, they don't always come out the way you expect them to be. ^_^ I never translated the "Fallen One" before so now I know. As for the handcuff parts, I wasn't too sure if it was Allen or Kanda. but yeah, now I see... (Originally had Kanda down. Ragh. Should've stuck with him. >D)

Re: DGM Chapter 217 Spoiler Thread

Tim looks so dead!! poor Tim!! and Allen is missing ....
so Kanda's going back to the order it seems, maybe he can take Tim to Komui, they might be able to fix him, I hope...

Jasdevi are in trouble, handling this Apocryphos creep by themselves is too much, perhaps they called the other Noah around to gang on him, I wish to see him dead soon...

Taking Timcanpy to Komui can be either a good or bad thing...

-Komui may find out that the 14th has awakened (Allen would have to be classified as a traitor by the Black Order)
-Komui may find out about Apocryphos (Komui may be able to bring Allen back as a fully fledged exorcist because Tim's video would be proof that Allen didn't kill Link, and that the Black Order has enemies within)

Off topic but: Apo's name origin can actually apply to his existence, because the definition of Apocrypha is: Biblical or related writings not forming part of the accepted part or scripture...

Re: DGM Chapter 217 Spoiler Thread

I'm interested in the fact that Apocryphos looked like an angel. Is that what Innocence truly is? The pure Innocence in the Alma Karma flashbacks had a halo and wings, just like an angel. (EDIT: Fallen Ones look like angels as well) Not to mention the feathers that Hoshino has been drawing to the very last detail. There has to be a reason why she's been dedicating so much time to drawing feathers when she can hardly get out a chapter every month.

An interesting parallel is the dark matter, which also takes the form of an angel when it's at its most powerful. Level 4 akuma look like angels, and even Alma Karma looked like an angel with his halo (though he also had a contrasting devil tail).

Re: DGM Chapter 217 Spoiler Thread

Honestly im starting to see the Noah as good and the Black Order as bad -.- I always did like the characters that interacted with Allen though, but the rest
of them are surrounded in mystery and unknown. I feel that they can't be trusted. If it wasn't for the innocence and becoming a fallen one they could leave. It's kind of just keeping them there. Im not sure. Im also starting to hate the innocence like it's cool but it causes pain to everyone. I guess this arc and development is changing my view of everything i believed in.

Angels BAD
Demons SEMI GOOD....?

E V E R Y O N E S B A D
OOOOO MMMMM GGGGGG

WELL ONE THINGS FOR SURE rip Lavi for 2012 <3
I felt like Kanda needs all this screen time to build up for something better.

Re: DGM Chapter 217 Spoiler Thread

Well, that's that. I finished it last night (wee hours of the morning, my time). Then, came back today to fix up the sound effects to the best that I can. Looking forward to getting my sleeping pattern back to normal.

I appreciate everyone's patience. >_< Thanks for the support! And.....

Honestly im starting to see the Noah as good and the Black Order as bad -.- I always did like the characters that interacted with Allen though, but the rest of them are surrounded in mystery and unknown.

I felt that from the earlier portions of the story (when we got to know how Noah came to be and Eliade..). Not everything and everyone are completely good or bad. Hence, why everyone has a form of gray within themselves. So, on both sides... The Black Order and the Noah. Both sides think they're doing something good, in their views, for the future of the world. Yet, we have the Apocryphos and his "master" trying to have their way. Then, there's the harsh power of the Church. In the midst of that, you still have good people within the Order.

On the Noah side, some of the Noah and a lot of the Akuma don't seem to shed any compassion for human-kind. They are under the mantra of "hate the Innocence" and "don't forgive the Innocence". Then, there are the other Noah who seem to have their own agendas that are unknown the Earl. On top of that, the 14th knows how to convert Akuma out of the "hate the Innocence" spell. (I want to see that ability in action!)

Then, we have the third side who must consist of people from both sides. They most likely want the world to be at peace and share a common goal of going against both the Church and the Earl. Hope we learn more about the third side.... Oh wait, Boooookmannnnn!! Laviiiii!! >__<

Edit 2: And I hope Kanda will be able to make contact with Nea instead of going gun-ho "I must kill him!! Grr..." He'll probably have to stab Allen again for that to happen. ;__; Noooo... Still, I'm super curious how this is going to go. There are a lot of things about the past we still don't know. Allen's "former life". Nea's life. (The heck, I still don't get then why/how Allen and Nea share the same letters in their names.... Hoshiiiinoooo!! Is it hitsuzen or just a coincidence!?)

Re: DGM Chapter 217 Spoiler Thread

The Order is chaotic good and the Noah are lawful evil. It's easy to mix up chaotic/evil and lawful/good, but I think it's still clear who's good and who's evil. The difference is that the Order has no standards and will resort to anything if it's for the greater good, while the Noah only commit bad deeds when it's absolutely necessary to their mission. Remember, the Noah are still trying to end the world and the Order is still trying to save it.

Re: DGM Chapter 217 Spoiler Thread

Originally Posted by relory

This is a good opportunity to put Kanda "on a bus" for a while. I don't mind him having a lot of screentime as he's an important character; and his past is deeply connected to innocence and the current Apochryphos-plot, so he still has a story to tell. But I have to agree; we need more Lavi now! and other characters I forgot how much I miss (like Tiedoll and Jasdevi) reminded me of how little we've seen them lately.

I am keeping my fingers crossed toward this arc not becoming "The Adventures of General Kanda".

Originally Posted by tgirl

I hope Kanda will be able to make contact with Nea instead of going gun-ho "I must kill him!! Grr..."

I admit, I facepalmed a bit at Kanda's reaction there at the end. Really, Kanda? Really? You don't think you might want to get a bit more info on the subject first? I know Nea gave Johnny a depressed skull fracture and everything, but Johnny's ok now, and don't you imagine that Nea has the DL on some pretty important intel? Hint: signs are pointing to 'yes'. Tiedoll, please make Kanda's Generalship conditional upon his acquiescing to a "questions first, slicing second" policy regarding all information-gathering events.

Thought box: ....did not see them off untilyet... (T/N: it's mada, not made

Thought box: ...I could openly talk...I haven't even talked openly... (T/N: 話すらしてねぇ＝話さえしてない)
[t/n to verd: I used "openly" for 'matomo'. It's another way of saying "honest".]

Thought box: ....with that idiot bean sprout (yet).....

SFX: GO PO!! (Roaring light)

Thought box: I'm remembering.

Thought box: I remembered....

Thought box: ....this pain.

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Thought box: I...

Thought box: ....was forced...

Thought box: ...to feel...

Thought box: ....,hundreds of times,....

Thought box: ....the same painful.....

Thought box: ....past experiences.

(Where did you leave 俺はこれを知ってる? ("I know this (pain)").
A more literal translation would be:
Thought box: I...
Thought box: know...
Thought box: this (pain)...
Thought box: It's the same pain
Thought box: That I was forced to experience hundreds of times in the past.)

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Apo guy flashback quote: Leave it to me. I will return Allen to the Black Order.Leave Allen to me and return to the Order, please.
(T/N: -nasai: a polite way of requesting someone else to do something.

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Kanda's thought: It was that Innocence.That (pain) is the Innocence.
(T/N: You're translating it as "sore wa ano innocence datta."

Tiedoll: "!?"

Kanda: "...... Timcanpy?"

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Kanda: "HEY!!"

Tiedoll: "That's Tim?"

Kanda: "Where did that guy go!? Oi!!
(T/n to those not familiar: "oi" = "hey")

Kanda's thoughts: !? What is this piece of splinter....?

Kanda's thought: He's not regenerating...

SFX: Shiiiiiiiiiiiin... (Silence)

Kanda: Damn....What to do? Damn it....What the hell is going on?

Tiedoll: Kanda, you can't be.....

Search party member (glasses guy): GENERAL TIEDOLL!!!!

Tiedoll: "What is it?"

Search party member: It's...

Search party member: It's serious!!

Other search party member voices in the background: "Really!?" "Where!?"

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Golem SFX: Biiiiii!! Biiiiii!! Biiiii!! (Wail)

Search party running sound effects: Da da da (Step)

Search party member 1 (glasses): "It's the reinforcements from the detached force!"It's a request for backup from the detached force!

Search party member 1: "We found Allen Walker located south-east from here!!"

Search party member 2 (smooth hair guy): "I'm going ahead!"

Search party member 3 (spiky hair guy): "Let's go!!"

Both Tiedoll and Kanda: !?

Search party member 1: "He's also with Gill, of the science division!
We're going immediately to the station!"

SFX of Kanda touching poor Tim: Ga ra ra (Rustle)

Smaller SFX above Kanda's thumb in the air: So.... (Hold)

SFX of Kanda grabbing Tiedoll: GA!!! (Grab)

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Kanda: ".............."

Kanda: "............."

Tiedoll letting out air: "Pu." (Pffft!)

Tiedoll: "AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!"

Kanda: "!!"

SFX: Hiku

Kanda: "What!?"

Tiedoll: "Yaaaa... You really are---ah ha... Ah ha ha ha ha..."

Tiedoll: "I... I'm thinking that was awkwaaard."

Tiedoll's words not in a speech bubble: "You really can change from that small moment. Hee..."You really haven't changed a bit from when you were little.

Two SFXes: Ah hi! Ah hi!
(T/n: If it relates to his giggling fit, it would be "ah hee!")

Tiedoll: "Now, your face looks like it's constipated....."

Kanda: "Whaa!!?"

Tiedoll: "Perhaps, you owe me a favor?"Perhaps, you want to ask me a favor?
(T/n: I believe it literally translates to "I think you have a favor for me?" so re-worded that.)T/N: "to owe somebody a favor" means someone has already done someone else a favor. Kanda still needs to ask.

Kanda: "I will certainly kill that guy, the "14th", when it's time......" (T/N: More literal: "I will definitely kill him once he turns into the 14th.)

Kanda: "But now...."

Kanda: "....I just want to go to where they are."I want you to let them go freely.

Kanda: "If you tell me 'no', then, I'll just have to knock you out right here, right now."

Word next to Tiedoll's head: A threat............?

Tiedoll: "..................."

SFX of Tiedoll scratching his cheek: Bo bo

Tiedoll: "Sometime ago, it was said that you lost Central's trust.
Furthermore, the aforementioned doesn't really have room for an apology.
What kind of cruel punishment can be exchanged for a pardon!?
I extremely disagreed."

T/N: I got this wrong too at first, but you have to start reading from the bottom right bubble.

Tiedoll: What horrible punishment would you get in exchange for a pardon? I hate the thought of it!
But there's really no room to defend yourself in this case.
Like I said a second ago, you've lost Central's trust.

SFX of Tiedoll rubbing the side of his head: Bo bo

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Tiedoll: "If that's the case, let's cooperate."

Tiedoll: "So, the conditions are...."

Tiedoll: "....that you display your loyalty to Central."

Tiedoll: "If you do so, then I'll cooperate. (T/N: shiyou doesn't always mean "let's". In this case it's more that you will do something. It's hard to explain XD)

Tiedoll: "Become a general."

Kanda: "............Huh?"

Tiedoll: "Becoming one puts you in a very fortunate seat (Cross's)."Luckily, there's a single empty seat right now (Cross').

(T/N: 'umai koto ni' is a tricky one 'Koto ni' is a special construction in this case. For example, 悲しいことに means "sadly, sad to say" and 残念なことに means "unfortunately" etc,
(T/n: (Cross's) = General Cross, who's MIA so his spot is....empty!!)

Kanda: "Eh?"

Tiedoll happily humming SFX: Run run (Hmmm hmmm)

Kanda: "Hold on.... Hey, wait!!"

(T/N: You forgot some lines?

Tiedoll: Your power has been at a General's power level for a long while now.

Tiedoll: You've even been hiding that you can break through the critical point, right?

Tiedoll: Or do you lack the resolve

Tiedoll: To enter the centre of the despicable Order?

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Kanda's thought box: Johnny was able to be brought to safety...I succeeded in safely escorting Johnny.

Thought box: ...but...

Thought box: ...that also became a mystery.There are now also things which I don't understand.

Kanda's thoughts: I still have something that should be done.

Thoughts: Before, I wasn't prepared to carry such a troublesome burden.
(T/n: I'm not sure if I got this sentence right, but I tried.)

Thoughts: Since the time I've obtained Mugen, I'll use it in order to kill that guy.

Well, that's that. I finished it last night (wee hours of the morning, my time). Then, came back today to fix up the sound effects to the best that I can. Looking forward to getting my sleeping pattern back to normal.

I appreciate everyone's patience. >_< Thanks for the support! And.....