For all of Joe's faults, one thing we can confidence in as Pistons fans is that he never gets swindled in a trade

So here's where we're at if I'm following correctly, (1)Joe is not giving up a pick. (2)If we have to take back Petro's contract we want a pick in return (3)Rather than give up another pick NJ is looking for a 4th team to eat Petro's contract...............HELLOOOOOOOO ..........ORLANDO YOU IDIOTS!!!!! They have a $6.3M trade exception and they need a 7 foot scrub to play in a pinch.

You have both hands dripping from a delightful addition of wanting those cones of ice cream...just being there, but, perhaps not of wanting choice. Now someone thrust you a third and your most favorite dream cone of flavor.

Yes, let's use Murphy to get Rip off the books and then with Tay gone, the team can really get into rebuild mode. A top five pick coming, Monroe and JJ and a new owner. Everyone else should be on the table as well. Do a total rebuild. Not try to build just a first round team. Try and build an elite team.

The point, as a referent, might be in placement and what is experienced in the mind's eye.

In the former, frozen is not movement as in dripping. This is not a morgue or such that is not longer capable of a living host that is forever lost from the active furnace. One should not live, or see beyond, for the potential of an enlightened thaw.

In the latter, the mind doesn't care as long as the trick is believing as a choice. The levels of substitution are not only layered, but must admit that all have route to certain passage-ways. There are the locks (as expressed from Kafka's, The Trial, and the inclusionary parable about, The Law), but most are hesitant while they hold the golden key. All dreams are translucent vales of specious lock movements. The creative ones are much more patient about what is to become and are not afraid to use it upon arrival.

Whew! See what an interpretation of choice (or not) can bring?

The break-out, from the devil's ice cream pallet, is not in the variety, but in selection. It can be the basic vanilla, chocolate or my favorite, Mississippi Mud. Yours might be combination called, Lemonade. Oh yes, please never forget, that variations of personalized passage-ways take some form of Lemonade spirals all-the-way-down.

In the end, the expectation is still a choice: drop all for what you have or accept a new offering.

In my opinion, I think he'll be a better point guard that Stuckey will ever be, and Denver doesn't need him being that Ty Lawson is up and coming into his own over there. Plus, Chauncey is probably going to be bought out and return to Denver after all that's said and done.

In my opinion, I think he'll be a better point guard that Stuckey will ever be, and Denver doesn't need him being that Ty Lawson is up and coming into his own over there. Plus, Chauncey is probably going to be bought out and return to Denver after all that's said and done.

So why can't we get Harris?

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[SARCASM]because we already have on of the league's best PG's[/SARCASM]

The point, as a referent, might be in placement and what is experienced in the mind's eye.

In the former, frozen is not movement as in dripping. This is not a morgue or such that is not longer capable of a living host that is forever lost from the active furnace. One should not live, or see beyond, for the potential of an enlightened thaw.

In the latter, the mind doesn't care as long as the trick is believing as a choice. The levels of substitution are not only layered, but must admit that all have route to certain passage-ways. There are the locks (as expressed from Kafka's, The Trial, and the inclusionary parable about, The Law), but most are hesitant while they hold the golden key. All dreams are translucent vales of specious lock movements. The creative ones are much more patient about what is to become and are not afraid to use it upon arrival.

Whew! See what an interpretation of choice (or not) can bring?

The break-out, from the devil's ice cream pallet, is not in the variety, but in selection. It can be the basic vanilla, chocolate or my favorite, Mississippi Mud. Yours might be combination called, Lemonade. Oh yes, please never forget, that variations of personalized passage-ways take some form of Lemonade spirals all-the-way-down.

In the end, the expectation is still a choice: drop all for what you have or accept a new offering.

I still doubt that this trade will happen. CB doesn't want to leave Denver, Detroit doesn't want this overpaid scrub whose name I forgot, Harrington is not wanted by anyone, Murphy's going to seek a buyout. Sheesh, NJ is trying too hard.
And yes, this trade makes something obvious - RIP doesn't seem to be worth a thing, since NJ only wants take him if they can unload one bad contract themselves. What did JoeD do?

I still doubt that this trade will happen. CB doesn't want to leave Denver, Detroit doesn't want this overpaid scrub whose name I forgot, Harrington is not wanted by anyone, Murphy's going to seek a buyout. Sheesh, NJ is trying too hard.
And yes, this trade makes something obvious - RIP doesn't seem to be worth a thing, since NJ only wants take him if they can unload one bad contract themselves. What did JoeD do?

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I do worry about a team like Portland coming in and blowing the Pistons out of the water because they do not care about $$.

I still doubt that this trade will happen. CB doesn't want to leave Denver, Detroit doesn't want this overpaid scrub whose name I forgot, Harrington is not wanted by anyone, Murphy's going to seek a buyout. Sheesh, NJ is trying too hard.
And yes, this trade makes something obvious - RIP doesn't seem to be worth a thing, since NJ only wants take him if they can unload one bad contract themselves. What did JoeD do?

I still doubt that this trade will happen. CB doesn't want to leave Denver, Detroit doesn't want this overpaid scrub whose name I forgot, Harrington is not wanted by anyone, Murphy's going to seek a buyout. Sheesh, NJ is trying too hard.
And yes, this trade makes something obvious - RIP doesn't seem to be worth a thing, since NJ only wants take him if they can unload one bad contract themselves. What did JoeD do?

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BOTH Nuggets and Nets NEED that trade: according to Barkley, Melo has already quit (mentally) and for Nets this may be their only chance to grab legitimate and proven allstar ( instead of unproven projets from drafts, always risky business).

the problem is, as commentators point out, Denver new GM,Masai Ujiri, is inexperienced and therefore he has commited already several mistakes.

And for Melo it is better to sign extension now instead of waiting new CBA ( read:not so much money )

than JoeD should somehow be smart enough not to absorb Petro's unreasonable contract or get even some more talent :D
I'd love to see a legit PG like Lawson or Harris coming to Detroit, he could throw in Stuckey to make that happen.

The Nets and Detroit Pistons believed they had an arrangement in place Sunday that would’ve sent Anthony, Nuggets point guard Chauncey Billups(notes) and Pistons guard Richard Hamilton(notes) to the Nets as part of the blockbuster deal. Once the Nets and Pistons worked out the details of a side component to the 13-player deal on Sunday afternoon, the two teams were surprised to find Denver general manager Masai Ujiri wanting to replace players in the framework of the overall trade, sources said.

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Anthony “wants to play with Rip,” one front office executive told Yahoo! Sports.

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The Nets and Pistons have all but completed a component of the trade that exchanges Murphy for Hamilton, sources said. The teams have agreed to include Petro, who has two years and $6.75 million left on his contract after this season, but were still working out whether Detroit would receive a draft pick. The Pistons are motivated to unload the remaining two years and $25 million on Hamilton’s contract for Murphy’s $12 million expiring deal.
The Nets were assisting the Pistons in finding another team to move Petro onto because Detroit – in the midst of an ownership sale – needs maximum financial savings for its payroll. New Jersey and Detroit were surprised on Sunday night when Denver allowed the players included in the proposed trade to play in a game against the New Orleans Hornets.

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Billups would prefer to stay in Denver, but to make him more comfortable about the trade, the Nets are expected to commit to paying him the full $14.2 million he’s due next season in the final year of his contract rather than buying him out for just $3.7 million this summer, league sources told Y! Sports’ Marc Spears.

For all of Joe's faults, one thing we can confidence in as Pistons fans is that he never gets swindled in a trade

So here's where we're at if I'm following correctly, (1)Joe is not giving up a pick. (2)If we have to take back Petro's contract we want a pick in return (3)Rather than give up another pick NJ is looking for a 4th team to eat Petro's contract...............HELLOOOOOOOO ..........ORLANDO YOU IDIOTS!!!!! They have a $6.3M trade exception and they need a 7 foot scrub to play in a pinch.

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This is true. Joe saw an opportunity and he's playing it cool. I've been pleasantly suprised at how well he's been managing this so far.

If he can somehow turn Rip into Murphy's expiring and a 1st round pick, he would prove that he can fix his own mistakes in time.