They're finally to a place where it doesn't matter what Denver does. Funny, since it absolutely does matter what Denver does. The Chargers need Denver to collapse, and they know it. But they don't care.

Where's the venom, the vitriol, the bad blood being spilled with every spoken word? Where's the spite, the loathing, the malice and the mayhem? If this were a Hatfield-McCoy feud, it would be viewed as soccer friendly.

Perfection has eluded Khalil Greene. So, it seems, has joy. The shortstop who left the Padres on Thursday for St. Louis departs as a riddle wrapped in a mystery beneath a Jeff Spicoli haircut. Greene spent five seasons in San Diego, mostly hidden in plain sight, much of it brooding.