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Summer of Love 50th Anniversary

The Summer of Love was a cultural and sociological phenomenon that occurred in the San Francisco Bay Area from June through early October of 1967. The prelude to the Summer of Love was a celebration known as the Human Be-In at Golden Gate Park on January 14, 1967 to promote a peaceful celebration of personal empowerment, cultural and political decentralization, communal living, ecological awareness, higher consciousness, and liberal activism.

Chart for the Human Be-In Event on January 14, 1967

The First Summer of Love Music Festival

While the highly documented Monterey International Pop Festival continues to be remembered by most historians of the ’60s Counter Culture Revolution as the first of a series of San Francisco area cultural events known as the Summer of Love, the Fantasy Fair and Magic Mountain Music Festival took place one week before Monterey, and is considered to have been America’s first rock festival.

The Fantasy Fair and Magic Mountain Music Festival was held June 10th and 11th, 1967 at the 4,000-seat Sidney B. Cushing Memorial Amphitheater high on the south face of Mount Tamalpais in Marin County, California. At least 36,000 people attended the two-day concert and fair. The festival represented a sea of change in musical preferences among the emerging Baby Boomer generation that was coming of age in the San Francisco Bay Area as the hippie culture fully arose in mid-1967.

Cover of the sixth issue of “The Oracle”, February 1967

The event was announced by the Haight-Ashbury’s underground hippie newspaper, The San Francisco Oracle:

“A new concept of celebrations beneath the human underground must emerge, become conscious, and be shared, so a revolution can be formed with a renaissance of compassion, awareness, and love, and the revelation of unity for all mankind.”

Summer of Love Event Horoscope

The Uranus-Pluto Alignment

The predominate outer planetary configuration in the Fantasy Fair event horoscope is the Uranus-Pluto alignment. The general tenor of Uranus-Pluto cycle is revolution – the Dionysian (Pluto) impulse for revolutionary empowerment of the masses, and the Promethean (Uranus) thrust for radical change and innovative reform for the establishment of a new social order. Scholar, author, and cultural historian Richard Tarnas has stated that periods during Uranus-Pluto alignments have correlated with “widespread radical and political social change and often destructive upheaval, massive empowerment of revolutionary and rebellious impulses, and intensified artistic and intellectual creativity.” (pp. 143-144, Cosmos & Psyche).

A Libertine Subculture Phenomenon

The stellium of planets in the 12th House of the Fantasy Fair event horoscope signifies the social spectacle of the Summer Love was essentially a libertine subculture phenomenon of the hippie counter-culture that held social egalitarian beliefs and rejected consumerist values, with artistic (music, painting, poetry) and religious (Eastern mysticism and meditative practices) interests that was at variance with the larger middle-class parent culture of America.

Something Higher

The Moon-Uranus-Pluto-Neptune configuration in the horoscope encouraged the exploration of connecting to something higher than themselves through the use of psychedelic drugs and the embracing of Eastern philosophy, Western mysticism, and New Age spiritual concepts the essentially that defined the Hippie counterculture movement that inspired thousands of young people from all over the world to travel to San Francisco during the Summer of Love.

The Grand Idea of Love

The Venus-Jupiter in the Fantasy Fair event horoscope symbolizes the grand idea of love and augurs a mood of optimism, generosity that inspired, pleasant social interaction, beauty, love, artistic expression, cultural celebration, and indulgent festivity.

Light My Fire

Fantasy Fair was also The Doors’ first large show and happened during the rise of the group’s first major hit, “Light My Fire”, to the top of the charts and that launched them to stardom.

The Venus-Jupiter conjunction in the fire sign of Leo in the 12th House, galvanized and popularized hippie culture through “Light My Fire” that became one of the signature songs during the Summer of Love, that exemplified the Utopian dream of coming to a place where one can indulge and experience more in life beyond the ordinary grind of reaching out to others turning them on to “turn on, tune in, drop out”, personal experimentation, communal living, and abandoning their education or jobs for a summer of sex, drugs, and rock n’ roll.

The Doors on the main stage at the Fantasy Fair and Magic Mountain Music FestivalSan Francisco “Wear Some Flowers in Your Hair” – Scott McKenzie

Released nearly month prior to the Summer of Love on May 13, 1967, the song “San Francisco (Be Sure to Wear Flowers in Your Hair)” written by musician John Phillips of the band The Mamas & the Papas served to promote both the upcoming Monterey Pop Festival (June 16, 1967) and to popularize the flower children of San Francisco. By the week ending July 1, 1967, it scored number four on the Billboard Hot 100 in the United States, where it remained for four consecutive weeks.

Summer of Love Music 1967

Hippie Movement and Flower Power

The Fantasy Fair natal Sun is conjuncts the AS/MC midpoint of the event horoscope and squares the Uranus-Pluto conjunction. These mundane testimonies signify both the popularization of hippie life in the Haight Ashbury district of San Francisco due to growing mainstream media coverage, that drew the attention of youth from all over America and the peak of “Flower Power.” A movement of passive resistance to the establishment and non-violence ideology that was rooted in the opposition movement of the deployment of U.S. soldiers in Vietnam.

Flower Power

Psychedelic Drugs – Exploration, Expression, Existence

The Uranus-Pluto conjunction in close sextile to the Neptune correlates with the mass consumption and recreational use of psychedelic drugs such as LSD for a psychedelic experience (a temporary Holotropic state of consciousness) for personal development, mind revealing self-discovery, and religious & mystical revelations. Psychologist Stanislav Grof described the LSD experience as: “complex revelatory insights into the nature of existence… typically accompanied by a sense of certainty that this knowledge is ultimately more relevant and ‘real’ than the perceptions and beliefs we share in everyday life.”

LSD Blotter Tabs

Psychedelic drug use became commonplace during the Summer of Love in the Haight Ashbury district of San Francisco as Grateful Dead guitarist Bob Weir commented:

“Haight Ashbury was a ghetto of bohemians who wanted to do anything—and we did but I don’t think it has happened since. Yes, there was LSD. But Haight Ashbury was not about drugs. It was about exploration, finding new ways of expression, being aware of one’s existence.”

The Hippie Code

On July 7, 1967, Time magazine featured a cover story entitled, “The Hippies: The Philosophy of a Subculture.” The article described the guidelines of the hippie code:

“Do your own thing, wherever you have to do it and whenever you want. Drop out. Leave society as you have known it. Leave it utterly. Blow the mind of every straight person you can reach. Turn them on, if not to drugs, then to beauty, love, honesty, fun.”

Summer of Love Funeral and Aftermath

After many young people left at the end of summer to resume their college studies, those remaining in the Haight wanted to commemorate the conclusion of the event. A mock funeral entitled “The Death of the Hippie” ceremony was staged on October 6, 1967 at sunrise, and organizer Mary Kasper explained the intended message:

“We wanted to signal that this was the end of it, to stay where you are, bring the revolution to where you live and don’t come here because it’s over and done with.”

It is estimated that around 100,000 people traveled to San Francisco in the summer of 1967.

Death of the Hippie Funeral Horoscope

The Aftermath of the Summer of Love

Shortly after, the rock musical drama Hair, a product of the hippie counterculture and sexual revolution of the 1960s, which told the story of a group of politically active, long-haired hippies of the “Age of Aquarius” living a bohemian life in New York City and fighting against the draft into the Vietnam War, began its Off-Broadway premiere on October 17, 1967 at the Joseph Papp Public Theater in New York City’s East Village.

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What we have been witnessing is a revolt from the middle class. We’ve seen the collapse of the middle class that has taken place over the past seven years where there was a recovery on Wall Street but no recovery on Main Street. And the middle class has deleveraged dramatically somewhere between 30-40% depending on what sources you follow.

This type of revolt and growing rebellion by the middle class is also impacting now the working class now as the continued outsourcing has been going unabated, full throttle, if you will, and has impacted virtually every sector of the United States working economy. We are now seeing this voter revolt not only play itself out in local elections or state elections or recently in midterm elections, but now in the presidential general election.

This voter revolt is also being exacerbated by the impact of globalization, which began during the Uranus-Neptune Conjunction in 1992, and coincided with the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Also this has been exacerbated by the agenda and all-out effort on the part of the global elite who continued to accelerate and intensify the globalization process in this nation.

Of course, you also have to factor in the Uranus-Pluto alignments and the Saturn-Neptune alignments that are now key mundane factors in play. And we must consider the Jupiter-Saturn alignment that is now in effect the beginning of the astrological new year 2016.

On March 20th, 2016 at 12:30:02 AM EDT, White House, Washington, D.C., the Sun ingressed into 00°00’ Aries. According to traditional sources a horoscope cast for the moment during the time the Sun comes into Aries at the site of a nation’s capital city, provides a comprehensive image of the archetypal energies and potentials that will likely unfold and constellate as mundane events and happenings throughout the year. The astrological portents for 2016 indicate that the status of events that are now in play on the world stage will be changing very quickly.

As a nation, we are experiencing a collective psycho-spiritual death-rebirth transformation process.

Also, we will see the continuing saga of the global power struggle between the political class and the general populace, accelerate and intensify. For history often repeats because the passions and vices of humanity never change, just those in power, from one century to the next. The constellating Uranus-Pluto/Saturn-Neptune/Jupiter-Saturn/Jupiter-Pluto Square alignments that in orb throughout this year, that is a prelude to the triple Jupiter-Saturn-Pluto Alignment in the Spring of 2020, makes it clear we are moving ever closer to absolute social/political/financial oppression as the Global Governance agenda continues to accelerate, that in turn will galvanize the collective (the 98.5% known as the silent majority) to get angry, demand change, organize and revolt.

The Barbault Planetary Cyclic Index (the sum of all the angular distances between the pairs of the outer planets – Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto) measures periods of stability and growth (upward wave) along with periods of crises and recession (downward wave). The Barbault Index will peak during the Grand Cardinal Cross alignment (497 days after the Mayan End Date) and begin its precipitous plunge, descending 497 points from 2014 to 2022, indicating that we are heading into dangerous and perilous period.

Starting today, March 20th, that tipping point is now within reach. So until social revolution goes “full throttle” in America, be prepared to lose any concept of rights you thought you once had or that standard of living that once had back in 1999. For we are not living the “dream” but the nightmare of history as the old order dies (1900 – 2020) and a new one struggles to be born (2020 – 2030).

Transcribed from The Astrology Show with Mj Patterson
“What’s Coming in 2015 with William Stickevers”
(Airdate: January 2, 2015)

Mj Patterson: I’m delighted to welcome back William Stickevers from San Francisco. He’s calling in from a great distance to have a chat with us about the year ahead. Here we come, 2015. Let’s find out. Are we going to make money? Are we going to lose money? Is something going to explode? What’s the deal? So, welcome, William.

William Stickevers: Thank you for having me again, Mj. It’s a real pleasure. I really enjoyed our last interview and I’m totally psyched about talking about 2015 because, well, get your seatbelts on — it’s going to be a rough ride next year.

Mj: Yeah, that’s what everyone’s saying.

William: It will be very interesting. There’s a lot to talk about.

Mj: I think a lot of my senior students, they feel a kind of drift in the ocean when they don’t mind doing a birth chart and they can do your basic progressions and transits. But when somebody asks them a big question “what’s going to happen in 2015,” I think they feel that they don’t know what to pick up first. Do you have any advice?

William: Well, first of all, what we’re talking about here is mundane astrology, which is a whole other gamut of perspective, tools, worldview. It’s actually [a way of] trying to understand a civilization [through astrology] the way we study a personality as a psychic structure that is developing and unfolding and self-actualizing as a person, through [the lens of] a personal chart. Everyone goes through their own personal self-actualization. Astrologers look at horoscopes to help guide individuals in that process of that self-actualization, especially if that self-actualization has been somewhat interrupted or in a state of trauma or distress. We look at the same things by applying mundane [astrological] techniques to looking at horoscopes of a nation state or events, and using a host of other astrological techniques and approaches that give us [global] perspective on what [Carl] Jung would call the archetypal development of the collective unconscious that is emerging on the world stage.

Mj: And it really is a horse of an entirely different color, isn’t it?

William: Yes, it’s completely different and we have to be much more objective in our approach which is very difficult. We have to take away our partisan political leanings and we actually sometimes have to strip away a lot of our precepts of how the world ought to be.

Mj: (laughs) Yeah.

William: What are the mundane portents really telling us? One of the things that’s really interesting about mundane astrology in particular, is that most astrologers are pretty much in agreement with the meanings of major alignments such as Saturn-Neptune or Jupiter-Uranus, Uranus-Pluto, etc. They’re pretty much in agreement [about their underlying archetypal meaning and expression], where you don’t find that in natal astrology.

Mj: Not nearly so much. I will concur. I think that’s a very sound observation.

William: Yes. So in a way it is sometimes much easier, where mundane astrologers can get together and we find that we agree on 80% of how we see things unfolding, and [the remaining] 20% is areas that we’re disagreeing in, which [often] is subtle. And that’s a good thing; I like that. Where with natal astrology, it’s almost like trying to herd cats together.

Mj: (laughs) Yeah, I’ve heard that used before with astrologers, for sure.

William: Right. So what we’re going to talk about today is looking at two horoscopes that will give us an idea of what we can expect [in 2015-16], where things are moving towards, and what possibly we can do about it, to whatever level we can.

Mj: Do you have — I should’ve asked you this before we started but let me ask you now — do you have a website where you might have these charts displayed? Because I could put a link to that from my site and the listeners could have a chance to go ahead and take a look at them.

William: Sure. My website is williamstickevers.com and I have specially on my site on my blog forecasts for the astrological year 2014 and all those charts are listed there.

Mj: That’s perfect. So I’ll make sure to signpost everybody over there so they can enjoy the visual while you’re explaining it. That’s going to make it really good for them.

William: Right. Now the other thing I want to establish here is that from the way I do traditional mundane astrology — and I use the word tradition, going back to the tradition — that March 20th was the astrological new year, not January 1st, not December 21st.

Mj: Absolutely. Agreed. Yep, going for the equinox, you mean, the spring equinox.

William: Correct. And so therefore, astrological 2014 will go into January, February, and into most of March of next year.

Mj: Cool. Okay.

W: So we’re still in 2014 on January 1st [2015], folks, in terms of how mundane astrologers match up the year and make forecasts.

Mj: Okay.

William: So, saying that, we can look at the chart of 2015 using the March ingress, and we could also take the December 21st chart when the Sun ingresses into 0 Capricorn and get an idea of the last quarter of 2014.

Mj: Well, I figured that one out so — I’m just going to put my cards right on the table: I am not a mundane astrologer. I have my CA-NCGR so of course I have enough mundane astrology to be able to nod wisely when someone like yourself who is a mundane astrologer discusses things; I don’t feel like a complete numpty. But you’re streets ahead of me on this one, William.

William: Well, you know, it’s simply because I have dedicated, I would say, hundreds to thousands of hours doing this [work]. I’ve read probably 200 books on [or related to] mundane astrology [over nearly 30 years], and not only that, I read books like Don’t Bank On It, The Death of Money, numerous books on geopolitics. I have subscriptions to newsletters from some of the best people I consider in the business, if not in the world who do financial forecasting. So I’m totally immersed in it, and it’s something that I feel I need to do now in order to give people perspective. And the [main] reason I was pushed into this [study] was I wasn’t able to give my clients the answers to many of the problems they were beginning to have [back in 2007-2008]. For example, Jupiter was transiting their 10th house of career so they should have gotten a [well-paying] job, during their peak earning years and were not employed, especially having a master’s degree, and they were unemployed for over two years [when they came to me for a reading.]

Mj: Wow.

William: Yes…living in New York City. So I said to myself, I’ve got to figure out what’s going on here because the old rules in natal astrology weren’t working. For example, you’ve got transiting Jupiter and Solar Arc Uranus hits your Sun everything should be happening and it wasn’t happening for them.

Mj: Got ya.

William: So that’s what pushed me into this.

Mj: I have to say, I had a very similar experience. My mom’s in this little club and they play on the stock market — it’s the Toronto Stock Exchange, though, not the DOW Jones or any of those. But so I thought, this is kind of cool, maybe I’ll have a little fun here, learn a little bit about astrology and try to help them out. And none of the indicators that the “baby” books — because I was starting out, right — none of the indicators were applying anymore. It’s almost like the rules are being changed under our feet.

William: Absolutely. And it has. It has in so many ways. And one of the problems today is that many of the astrologers who are counseling who are not keeping their world view updated and looking at where the trends are moving are not able to help their clients at the level they once were able to. And that’s one of my goals is to inform the astrological community that being aware of the mundane cycles will help you become a better consulting astrologer.

Mj: It seems only logical.

William: So a lot has been going on. I predicted quite a bit for 2014. I believe the best — or worst — is yet to come in this last quarter, especially now that we are in the last two Uranus-Pluto squares.

Mj: Indeed. And I had a little fun, not knowing any of this stuff, I did the only thing I knew how to do and I researched and I looked back in time. And there’s some crazy stuff, man. The Nazi takeover of Germany, apparently, in 1933 was a Pluto-Uranus square. They even cover Genghis Khan; they call him “master of medieval blitzkrieg” and that was in 1201. And that was a conjunction, mind you, but they were basically on the war path throughout the waxing square. So, yeah, I think it’s going to be pretty crazy.

William: Yes. In fact, look at the last Uranus-Pluto conjunction. We had the ’60s protests, the counterculture revolution.

Mj: Yep.

William: We had a revolution in the sciences at the time. We had the psychedelic revolution, we had the space age revolution, the microprocessor revolution, the computer revolution. We also had revolutions in art, film, and it was also the golden age of television.

Mj: And it almost seems like one foot, the other foot. Because what I’m reading is, yes, they had these revolutions and then they had this power backlash where people were trying to squash, like the Nazi takeover of Germany, they actually mention the illegalization of LSD during the square. So it’s like there’s busting out all over and then there’s people getting really stressed out about that, the people who are trying to hang on to the power and really putting the boot down.

William: Well, yes. It also stirs up the oligarchical elite or the [fossilized] patriarchal power structure to strike back [at the masses]. Keep in mind the repressive properties get constellated as well. That’s the shadow side of these Uranus-Pluto alignments which many people avoid talking about. And we’re seeing that now those repressive measures by government through the Patriot Act, and the various other bills that are being pushed through [executive order] without due process of law that are taking away habeas corpus.

Mj: Yeah, we’re having the same problems. It’s not a national thing either because in Canada, we’re dealing with exactly the same thing.

William: Right. So that’s really the icing on the top. What’s really happening as well, and what you have to realize is that these things are being put in place because they’re protection measures to [prop-up and] keep an obsolete system going and to prevent it from fracturing and imploding on its own weight. And that has to do with the [large-scale] economic systems that are in place. So what we’re witnessing now is really the collapse of that system.

Mj: I wish I could find the article that I noted because I’ve been looking at this for the last few months, just being nosy, trying to peek under the covers. And I can’t remember which angle it was, but somebody had written — it might even have been you — about that in the past when we had these outer transits — and I don’t know if it was Neptune-Saturn, I can’t remember — but it was that money systems tend to change and that the last time we had this we went from the gold standard or silver standard to paper money.

William: Actually, I think I did write that article and I correlated every time that we had a Uranus-Pluto alignment, most every time, we had a shift in status or change in the world’s reserve currency.

Mj: Okay.

William: And what many people don’t know, is that in order for any country in the world to trade– whether it’s goods, services, oil or commodities, gold — it has to be done through U.S. dollars. Because U.S. Dollar is the world standard. So nations have to hold U.S. dollars [in their Central Banks] because that’s considered means by which trade settlements and [international] commerce can occur.

Mj: Okay.

William: Now today, what’s happening is because the U.S. dollar is no longer backed by gold, but rather backed by debt, and the United States is no longer able to repay that debt, that the world is beginning to move away from the U.S. dollar and move to other [multilateral] mechanisms where trade settlement can occur. And that’s mainly through the development of the Chinese yuan swap mechanism, along with an alternative SWIFT [Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication] system, that the Russians are putting in place now.

Mj: Well, I’ve been watching China buy up American debt for some time now and waiting to see if anyone was going to notice.

William: Everyone is talking about that right now and the Chinese are fundamentally so tied into America. But the thing is, and what most people don’t realize, is the bigger issue of a global de-dollarization movement taking place. And that de-dollarization is more threatening to the Anglo-American banking system than anything else going on.

Mj: Okay.

William: And that collapse of the Anglo-American banking system will initiate a multi-polar world, instead of a unipolar world that we have now. Moving from a unipolar post-1945 world to a multi-polar world. And that’s really what this Uranus-Pluto is moving us toward. It will be the end of the Petrodollar hegemony that we see.

Mj: Gotcha.

William: And it will be the emergence of a new world order.

Mj: Well, that’s kind of neat because we are sort of skating our way haphazardly towards to the age of Aquarius. So certainly it is an algorithm that better suits an Aquarian mindset.

William: Well, yes, especially with the emergence of cryptocurrencies, which the youth is actively doing. As you know, Uranus is really the planet of youth. And with Uranus-Pluto in 2010 you saw the emergence of Bitcoin, and then soon after, other cryptocurrencies. And the kids today are using the Dark Net, to do commerce by trading for goods and services using Bitcoins and other cryptocurrencies that have no [oversight or] control by central banks or any government agency.

Mj: Got ya.

William: So, no taxation. So this is the real revolution that is going on, and here’s what it’s all about: it’s about no longer using the dollar as a means of international trade settlement. And they’re using the internet and cryptocurrencies, and all other means of doing business with each other. And all this is [happening and] moving rapidly. So what we’re seeing at the same time is the breakdown of the United States as the world economic engine per se, that’s affecting the growth of rest of the world. So at some point it will become a fact that the U.S. is no longer going to remain the central hub [of the global economy]. And the U.S. is going to go through some form of a [financial] reset. This will be part of a global reset event.

Mj: Okay.

William: So there will be a global political reset, an economic political reset, a financial reset, and it’s all coming to a head.

Mj: Yeah. And I think, too, that it’s really interesting to watch. It’s not that the governments have gotten any worse; they’ve always been horrible. Recently it’s been demonstrated in law that our extent Prime Minister is a criminal. He actually forged the last election. He is, in fact, in power illegally, and nobody’s doing anything about it. But the thing is, people are getting less and less tolerant of this behavior. And that’s what I find interesting. The average person is just “mad as hell and not going to take it anymore.” So it’s going to be an interesting year.

William: The 2015 – 2016 period, as we begin the traditional new year, on January 1st, the “I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore ” theme is going to take hold strongly [within the collective]. You’re going not only going to see that with the government, you’re going to see that in large-scale organizations, in companies, in communities, and in marriages as well. You’re going to see that in school lunchrooms, in prisons, in every area. It’s going to seem like the whole world is starting to just lose it.

Mj: Yep.

William: Because when people have nothing else to lose, they lose it. And that’s where people are at.

Mj: Yeah. They’re on the raggedy edge, aren’t they? I think that’s true, and it’s nice, it’s wonderful that we’re having this cross-border conversation because I’m not talking from a Canadian perspective. You’re not talking from an American perspective. This is the deal, baby, and it’s a global deal.

William: Right. And that’s what I said in my 2014 article that I published on March 20th, “Global Revolution Goes Full Throttle.” And we’re going to see that. We’re seeing that now with Ukraine, and we’ve been seeing that all last year. And I believe that revolution theme of “I’m sick and tired and I’m not going to take it anymore” is going to happen now. People are going to lose complete trust in the system because — economies are all based on trust. And once there’s no sense of trust, the system begins to break down.

Mj: Okay.

William: And that is exactly what we are now witnessing. And that is the thing folks need to keep in mind. What is money? What does money mean? And they’re going to realize they no longer trust what they’re being told what their money is anymore. Especially when it can do less and less for them.

Mj: Yeah, this is cool. So for those people who are learning, who want to get involved with the mundane astrology, they want to get their toes wet, how could you coach them? Is there a book they should read? Obviously, they are going to check out your website, which is fantastic, which I just want to say is williamstickevers.com. So, folks, that’s a good place to go to start your journey. But what else would you recommend? Here’s what I know — I know that 0 Aries and 0 Capricorn are really important in mundane astrology. That’s about it, and I’ve learned from you tonight that the beginning of a mundane year is at the spring equinox, which is really cool and thank you for teaching me that. And that’s pretty much where I’m at.

William: Yeah, look, I have to say this, mundane astrology is a vast subject. There are as many techniques in mundane astrology as there are in natal astrology. Now, if you can’t see the answer your client has in transits, can’t see it using progressions, and even tertiaries aren’t working for you, and you decide to use a new natal technique [or horary] to get the answer, that is stretching it. In mundane astrology, we have many techniques as well that’s very much tied up with cycles. Like the Hindu yoga cycles; the Plato great years cycle; the processional great years cycle; the cycles between the collective planets and Uranus-Neptune-Pluto; the declination cycles in Uranus-Neptune-Pluto; the cycles between a social and collective planet such as Jupiter-Saturn, Uranus-Neptune-Pluto; the cyclic index of Gouchon and Barbault; the world horoscope; the collective planet cycles of national charts; the cycles of intermediates planets, such as Mercury, Venus, and Mars.

Mj: Okay.

William: And we have the annual cycles that focus on the time and location with long-term trends. And then we have the solar cycle, the lunar cycles, and the daily cycles.

Mj: So arguably if you’re using solar-lunar you’re using the Saros cycles, the eclipse cycles as well, then.

William: Correct, absolutely. In fact, the fastest way you can get yourself immersed in mundane astrology is by understanding the eclipse cycle.

Mj: Cool!

William: And then looking at the outer planet cycles which the Barbault and Gouchon index measure. Because people can understand graphs pretty easily.

Mj: Yeah.

William: It’s pretty intuitive when you see the line of the graph go up or down to where things are moving towards. So there are many other techniques out there that one must get immersed in — ingresses, lunations, eclipses is the first step. And then taking it further, you can get into the cycles of the outer planets as the Barbault Index does, which has proven itself over and over again to be the most reliable indicator of the global economy and political stability and the development of civilization in history. And by the way, that indicator right now is showing a [sharp] downward trend between 2014 and 2022.

Mj: Okay.

William: So we’re going to have on this index, which I actually looked at since 1 AD and analyzed it all the way until current time and correlated with all the major historical events.

Mj: So that’s what I love. I just need to pause you there because, did you hear that, listeners? He started with 1 AD, and he studied all that back-data. Why? So that he can use forward-data effectively and accurately. This is the science of astrology. Go ahead, William.

William: Well, basically what we do is we take the outer planets and we determine when they’re moving closest to each other, the line goes down. When they’re moving furthest from each other, the line goes up.

Mj: Okay.

William: So the line goes down, that is a period of involution and breakdown and crisis and contraction, revolution, upheaval. When the line goes up, that’s a period of development, constructive periods where you see recovery, social conditions improving, stability, optimism, a lot of constructive developments occur. So we look at that and see for example if you look at the 20th century, there was a big drop in 1914 to 1919. That was the time when World War I occurred.

Mj: Mm-hmm.

William: Then you had the Roaring ’20s where the line goes shooting up. And then the line drops significantly starting in ’29 and bottoms in ’32, and that was the time where the world was initiated into the Great Depression.

Mj: Sure. The Dirty Thirties.

William: The line stabilizes and then makes a really big drop from ’39 into ’43/’44 which correlated with the biggest battles in World War II.

Mj: Mm-hmm.

William: Then the line stabilizes throughout the ’50s, takes another drop again and that correlates with the Korean War. The line moves up again and then you have that period in the early ’60s where we had the Space Race and the JFK era.

Mj: And peace and love, man. Don’t forget, peace and love, man.

William: That’s right, so we have that, the ’60s revolution. The line takes another dramatic drop in ’73 and that was the oil crisis, you’ll remember.

Mj: Yep.

William: And we also had that war in the Middle East and we had massive inflation.

Mj: Up here we had a typical mortgage rate in that time because my mom went and bought a house during that time. It was something crazy like 25%.

William: Right. So then the line hits a real bottom in ’82; that is called the Second Cold War. And then the line begins moving up rapidly from ’85 onward and that’s when Gorbachev takes power, that’s when Glasnost and Perestroika happen, and also when the economies of Japan and Germany are thriving and become major partners with the United States. It’s a booming period. Then the line drops in the early ’90s when the Soviet Union collapses. And then the line shoots up nonstop from around ’93 to 2001, and what did we see?

Mj: Okay.

William: We see this boom period of irrational exuberance take place, with this massive bubble build up. Then all of a sudden [out of nowhere] 9/11 occurs, the Dot Com Bubble implodes, and then the line stabilizes all the way through until 2006. And then it begins dropping and it drops again until 2009. And you see the financial crisis occur, the collapse of the Lehman crisis, and the global financial implosion. You see massive deleveraging of the Middle Class occur and double-digit unemployment worldwide. Then the line stabilizes between 2008 until 2014 and then it begins the biggest drop, a 500-point drop which correlates very closely with the collapse of the Roman Empire between May of 2014 until September 2022.

Mj: Crikey. Yeah, because that is when we were thinking that there might be a hit on the stock market around Easter time [2014] and I was really surprised that it didn’t seem to show up.

William: Well, let me explain that. A lot of people think the stock market is the market to watch. It is not. It is the least sophisticated and smallest market. The total capitalization is only $60 trillion.

Mj: I’m sorry, did you say only $60 trillion? Oh my God.

William: It’s about the capitalization of Microsoft. No, excuse me, let me take that back. It’s the total market capitalization of one year’s global GNP, $60 trillion.

Mj: Wow. Okay.

William: Now, what’s larger than that is the bond market. That’s over $100 trillion.

Mj: Okay.

William: And what’s even bigger than that is the currency market, the FOREX market, the commodities, the currencies. And they trade at $5 trillion a day.

Mj: Crikey.

William: Now take $5 trillion and multiply it by 365. That’s a huge number.

Mj: That’s a big number. Oh yeah.

William: So here’s the thing. When people talk about the stock market, especially the astrologers, they have very little understanding that the stock market is the last thing to be affected by…

Mj: The last thing to go — not the first thing to go…

William: Yes, that is the last thing to go. You want to look at is at the commodities market, the currency markets, what the central banks are doing, and then after that, you want to look at the bond markets. And I can tell you that if you look at that, and you look at what has recently transpired exactly on the day of the Uranus-Pluto alignment on December 15th — what happened that day?

Mj: I do not know. Teach me.

William: The Russian ruble.

Mj: Did it devalue? Oh yeah! I remember hearing about this.

William: Now that is very important. Why? It’s important because the ruble is very tied in with oil, the way the Russians sell their oil to the Europeans who are extremely dependent on them. And remember, Russia is the largest oil and gas provider in the world, not the Middle East. That being said, the fact that the ruble is being devalued and the Russian economy is about to collapse is a very telling sign because that will set off a Credit Soft Swap [CDS] from a crashing derivative. Now, derivatives are bets on bets [with no oversight], and Russian oil futures contracts based on trading around $90 a barrel., and trading companies hedge their bets on future contracts with derivatives.

Mj: Okay.

William: Now remember, the derivative market is worth 10 times the amount of the stock market.

Mj: Crikey.

William: Yes. It’s bigger than the stock market, it’s bigger than the bond market. And who also uses derivatives? [Too Big to Fail] Banks.

Mj: Oh…

William: All “too big to fail” banks make their money, not by lending money anymore — that’s old school. That’s why they don’t lend money out. They don’t lend it to anyone for that matter; that’s why the money supply is lower than it was in 1932. In other words, the circulation of money is occurring less than at the height of the Great Depression.

Mj: Crikey.

William: So the banks get money from the government. They keep that money, and they then invest that money into the derivatives market and what is left over to the stock market. And the derivatives market is tied in directly with the currency market. And so, when there are derivative contracts, or $90 oil, and oil is now trading at $50, and now going to $20…

Mj: Yeah, we know this in Canada because Alberta right now is our oil patch, I guess you could say, and you’re talking to me in Nova Scotia which is on our east coast, and everybody here goes out west to get work and sends the money home. So everybody’s just been laid off and they’ve all come home just before Christmas.

William: And it has to do with the fact that the Russian ruble, the derivative positions, and the Russian ruble have been compromised to the point where when those contracts come due, there will not be enough money in the world to cover them.

Mj: Got ya.

William: And so therefore, the sheer speed and scale of the collapse of the ruble has nothing to do with what happened in 1998. Because the eighth largest economy on the entire planet is in a state of turmoil right now, and what we are going to see is a major upheaval in the derivatives market and that is going to affect everybody.

Mj: I mean, it’s terrifying but I have to say, with my astrologer head on, I find it absolutely fascinating.

William: Yes. So like I said, and I’ll read the conclusion verbatim for the folks here. “What is occurring now in Russia that happened on December 15th [2014] during the penultimate Uranus-Pluto alignment will have terrible repercussions through all of Europe. The implications between now and the final Uranus-Pluto square that will occur in March 2015 is extremely hostile and volatile to the global economic climate, and it will not be confined within Russia’s borders.”

Mj: Not at all.

William: “This is just a prelude to the great unraveling as exchange rate volatility continues to increase, leading the way to systemic debt contagion.” So remember, back in the ’20s and early ’30s, Europe went into a depression first, then it hit North America. We are seeing the same thing go in play again. And remember — when you have financial wars, lead to trade wars, lead to shooting wars.

Mj: Yep. Absolutely. And certainly that is what history teaches us. Okay, so, here’s the $5 question. Given that we’re about to get a storm where we’re going to be floating around on a stormy sea in a tea cup holding on with both hands, what is your advice to the average Joe for the year ahead? What shouldn’t they do, what should they do?

William: Well, I think political activism, social activism. I think you need to get really involved. I think they’ve got to stop expecting the elected officials to — they have to stop buying into what they’ve been told. I don’t have all the quick and dirty answers for this —

Mj: No, no, I’m not expecting. I mean, it would be great but we couldn’t possibly pay you enough an hour if you had the quick and dirty answer (laughs) to this one. (laughs)

William: Let’s just say that, what I really believe needs to be done [to address the crisis], needs to be much more radical in the sense that, compared to what people are doing now. Just posting something on Facebook and ranting about is not enough.

Mj: Yeah.

William: You know, part of the reason I’m doing this radio show is to get the message out there that life is going to change for many people, and if you think that voting for the other party come election time in November 2016 or whenever they vote in Canada is going to be the solution, that is NOT the solution. What we need is a complete change in the system and we need to become very active in that process of change, starting now. We need to voice our positions. And what this comes down to this, and that is we no longer have a representative government.

Mj: We have not had a representative government, certainly at our end, for a long time.

William: Right. And so I believe what ordinary people need to do is completely drop the expectation that “if I vote for the other [establishment] party I never voted for this time around, things will change.” Sorry but that is not going to change anything.

Mj: Yeah, wasn’t it Einstein, or it’s often ascribed to Einstein, that “a problem that’s created at one level of thinking cannot be solved by that level of thinking,” you have to get up to a higher octave.

William: Correct. So I believe the revolution starts [right in your own] home It starts in local communities. It starts with getting organized and discussing these things and not trying to immediately come up with solutions but recognizing what’s really going on. A lot of folks out there, including the astrologers, need to start doing this. And you know this, Mj, we don’t see any of this happening. Most are just clueless. Many astrologers are not even talking about it.

Mj: (sigh) Well, yeah, but the thing is, William, you’re asking them to re-learn. The problem is that I can feel it, I can see it. I mean, I’m all about the data, same as you, and the paradigm is shifting, which means that the astrological indicators are shifting which means we got to get up off our ass and crunch the data and figure out what it means this week, not what it meant in 1922. And there are a lot people who are very comfortable because they learned it in 1922 and they really don’t want to learn it again.

William: Well, this is what I have to say to folks listening, especially those astrologers out there is this: Soon, much sooner than you think, you will know what I know.

Mj: But not by the indications that they’re used to using. That’s what I’m noticing is that if you don’t treat astrology as the science it is, and if you keep relying on old data, pretty soon you’re going to look like a Proper Wally because you’re going to be saying stuff that isn’t true and you’re going to be missing critical stuff that people need to know.

William: Right. So what I say to the folks out there and to the astrologers is that your world view [as you have known it] ended a long time ago.

Mj: Mm.

William: It ended back in 2000, 2001. Okay. And your world view is not sufficient to come to the solutions and recognitions of the issues at hand. This has nothing to do with intelligence [but about consciousness]. And all this is going to happen soon is an event will take place — it’s already begun —

Mj: Yeah.

William: Well to many that will shift and shatter your present world view. And there are many other people out there who are catching on. One of the things I’m going to say right now is the Prepper Movement is going to go mainstream, worldwide. There is about 10 million people prepping for some event or they’re buying bitcoin or gold or silver, they’re getting a 3-month food supply in the house, and being self-sufficient, doing whatever they need to do to survive some type of major dislocation.

Mj: Yep.

William: That number is going to grow to, like, 50%. I believe it’s going to grow upward to 50%.

Mj: Yeah, I’m really noticing that here. We’ve got something called Halifax Garden Swap. It is the most radical thing you can do, right, is grow your own food. Because that sticks it to Monsanto like nothing else will.

William: Right. So again, I just have to say this, to those skeptical folks out there, who think “steady as she goes,” or “it’s just going to be more of the same but only worse”, you will soon know what I know.

Mj: It won’t be so crazy in a couple of years.

William: Maybe sooner than that.

Mj: Sooner than that! You reckon this year, eh?

William: Yes. I believe this event has already begun and I believe you will see the fallout go worldwide, and then from Wall Street to Main Street much sooner than anybody thinks.

Mj: Alrighty. Well, I’m going to hang onto my hat all the way over here in Halifax and hope we don’t get a tsunami. (laughs) Listen, it’s been absolutely amazing having you on. I’m very grateful for your time, and I might be rattling your chain over the next few months as things kick off, maybe bring you back on and give us — you could be our rudder, you could give us a little bit of guidance, eh?

William: Yes, absolutely. We’ll focus more on that in the next discussion. I just wanted to make my statements that 2015 is going to be the year where everyone is going to start getting it.

Mj: Well, I’m excited and I appreciate the tips for the mundane astrologers out there, too — or maybe the bouncing baby mundanes like me — because it is too much to eat whole. It’s too huge; you have to take little nibbles. So I’m going to go and follow your advice and definitely going to check out your page. And I’ll make sure there are links from my page to yours so people can find you.

William: Thank you very much for having me, Mj, and I hope your audience appreciates the type of show you provide because there are very few shows out there that cover the scope or gamut of things that are going on in astrology like yours does.

Mj: Well, it’s fun, you know. And it allows me to talk to cool folks like your good self, right? So, (laughs) I look forward to speaking with you soon and thank you so much for joining us here on The Astrology Show.

Continued from Part 1Transcribed from “Mark The Rabbit Hole” with Mark Metheny on WithInsightsRadio.(Airdate: July 31, 2015)

William: Again, this goes all the way back to what we initially started talking about: Pluto. Fascism — the merger of private and corporate state operating as one functional unit for the benefit of both private parties and that basically is the oligarchy. What America [has become] is a nation run by an advanced oligarchy that operates at the deepest levels of the national security complex and [controls] the fractional reserve lending system which we call the Federal Reserve. Which by the way is not federal, nor a reserve, but essentially a private banking cartel whose stock owners and members are secret. That is the reality that most of us [astrologers] refuse to acknowledge.

Mark: Agreed. My favorite quote on that I’ve heard is “The Federal Reserve is as federal as Federal Express is.” It’s a private corporation and I was trying to think back about who I voted for Federal Reserve chairman last time and I remembered, oh, we don’t get to vote on it. (Laughs) Those are the scary ones you have to watch, these people who get appointed and you have no say whatsoever on the job these people do. You know, to me, I consider the job of president to be similar to America’s Top Model; it’s just kind of a figurehead to be pretty up there in front of the public. The people that concern me are these people who show up over and over again as the head of these large banks and financial institutions and as members of different presidents’ cabinets regardless of what party they are. So I think those are where the real, I don’t want to say the real power structures, but higher up on the power totem than the people that we sort of-kind of-not really get to vote for.

William: Exactly. So what you’re basically saying is that we have an oligarchy.

Mark: Yes.

William: Yes, we have a private, elite group who has the power and the access to [control] all levels of government, of national industry, and capital finance, to ensure that they work [together] congruently to implement a [domestic] policy that we [the populace] are not aware of, and does not support [the values of] America’s middle class, or long-term American interests abroad, but rather serve transnational corporate interest.

Mark: Totally agreed.

William: And as a result of this [oligarchical rule], what I am seeing — and by the what I’m about to say is just not about money or the nation’s finances — is that the nation is on the verge of [social] revolution. True revolution, in where we are going to see a major upheaval with the [two major party system] body politic. Therefore, I believe all bets [based on the forecast of mainstream political pundits] are off after this fall with the [upcoming] 2016 election. Again, all bets are off! Everyone at this point who says, yeah, it’s going to be Jeb, it’s going to be Hillary, it’s going to be this [establishment candidate], or it’s going to be that — nobody knows. Why? Because when certain events begin to play themselves out [on the world stage] in the forthcoming weeks and months ahead, I can assure you that much of the mechanisms of establishment politics, in the guise of another [well scripted] presidential TV reality show that’s been played out on us since World War II, will no longer work. For I believe we are seeing the nascent phase of a [growing] populist movement which will result in some populist leadership [in one or both parties] that will awaken the compulsive grassroots instincts (Pluto) throughout the nation-state. And as a result, I believe we are going to witness a collective power struggle when this occurs. So we’re going to see something play out that we haven’t seen played out in some way since the American Civil War. Ultimately we’re going to see a convergence and combination of a lot of things [that have been brewing within the nation’s collective unconscious] really start to happen.

Also, I believe the ongoing Uranus and Pluto complex — which by the way is still very active as it is still within close range of orb to each other — an escalation and acceleration of political grassroots movements that initiate and invoke massive sweeping reforms in nations’ political structure and financial system. At the same time, we will also possibly witness a near collapse of the United States. By the way, I’m not the only one who’s been saying this; there are a lot of European and especially Russian analysts, very bright Russian analysts who actually came here [shortly after the collapse of the Soviet Union to start a new life] and speak in very intelligent and compelling ways that say the U.S. is in the first and second phase of the five stages of “empire collapse.”

In fact, many of them were actually writing this way [about the Soviet Union] in the mid-’80s when they were working for the Soviet government. Let me make it clear that Gorbachev was well aware of the fact that the Soviet Union was in the second or third phase of collapse when he took power [in 1985]. The CIA [as we understand it today] was also well aware of that. Many of these very same people, who worked for the [Russian] intelligence agencies and now work for many American think tanks [that create government policy (like Brookings or RAND)], are saying the same thing about the U.S., and that is that we have gone from the first into the second phase of collapse.

Here are the five states of collapse. First, you have financial collapse. Then you begin to have political collapse. Then you have commercial collapse. This is followed by social collapse and then the fifth collapse, hmmm…I don’t remember it off-hand but I believe it’s something like cultural collapse. Regardless, the first phase is what happened in 2007-2009, and now we are seeing a major breakdown in the partisan political system [in 2014-2016]. Because for the first time, we have more people that are registered Independent or do not affiliate with either party. And, with the way that trend is going, that number will surpass the combined level of [registered] Democrat and Republican voters by 2020.

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The 5 States of Empire Collapse:
1. Financial Collapse: faith in “business as usual” is lost. Financial institutions become insolvent; savings are wiped out, and access to capital is lost.
2. Political Collapse: faith that “the government will take care of you” is lost. Government officials attempts to mitigate the widespread financial deleveraging by the middle-class fail to make a difference that results in the political establishment losing its unquestioned legitimacy.
3. Commercial Collapse: faith that “the market shall provide” is lost. Money become devalued through deflation and becomes scarce. As a result, commodities are hoarded, retail chains break down, and the beginning of shortages of basic necessities become the norm.
4. Social Collapse: faith that “your people will take care of you” is lost, as social institutions, be they Church or other charity groups rush in to fill the power vacuum of depleting resources and capital.
5: Cultural Collapse: faith in the goodness of humanity is lost, as families disband to find scarce resources.
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Mark: Yeah, and some of the stuff may sound scary to people but — this is going to sound wrong but — to me, I’m all for things collapsing. I think the system is so corrupt and so beyond fixing at this point that I think these things need to collapse. And just real quick, I had an interesting subject that came up at my monthly class a couple weeks ago, and we were talking about the upcoming election. And what’s interesting is that transiting Saturn will be opposed to the Mars in the U.S. chart which is at 21 Gemini. So, Saturn takes 28 years to go through the zodiac, every seven years Saturn is going to square where it was previously, and so we looked back at the U.S. chart and to where Saturn had made these previous squares every seven years. So next year Saturn will square the U.S. Mars; we have a presidential election. We went back seven years from that and we had the economic collapse and the TARP bailout. Then we went back to 2001; we had 9/11. We went back to 1994; we had Oklahoma City [bombing] where literally thousands of new laws were passed. And before that, 1987, we had the previous financial collapse.

William: Those are very good insights. And we also have transiting Saturn in December 2016 opposing [the U.S. natal] Mars, which really correlates very closely to what we were saying earlier, as Pluto opposes the U.S. Sun right on the 2nd House cusp [Sibly Horoscope]. Also, Saturn will still not be far away from the Ascendant which is very telling in itself. Yes, I’m totally with you. I believe we’re going to see some major, major shifts in the body politic that’s very closely correlating with the major unwinding geopolitical and macro global economic events, and the rumblings of those seismic movements are now in play.

Mark: Yes, I agree, there’s big stuff coming up in the future. And one of the encouraging things I see are a lot of people are waking up. A lot of people are starting to figure out that the two-party system is just one party disguised as two, and they’re finally starting to see this. We’re just feeding the beast by allowing the one-party-disguised-as-two to keep running rampant as it has been.

By the way, some of these charts that we’re talking about William has posted on his Facebook page and I’ve shared it on mine. I’ve also got his website up in the chat room and on my Facebook page as well so be sure and visit those. And he’s got some YouTube videos out there as well, so lots of great information he has out there.

So what kind of advice do you give to clients that come to you? What can people do during this time? How can they just in general safeguard themselves or make this less painful? What kind of stuff do you recommend?

William: Well, I really believe what people need to do is [come to terms with] with a few major facts that are very uncomfortable, and that has to do with dealing with the possibility of a major financial dislocation occurring [in this country]. Where you go to your bank or your ATM to swipe your card and no transaction takes place. I also believe there’s a possibility for bank bail-ins. Keep in mind they closed the banks in 1933 for 4 days, when they confiscated gold. That was a form of a bail-in. So they closed the banks [back then], in order to avoid a bank panic. They will do so again most likely. We could also see the banks go into receivership due to an economic bond apocalypse scenario, which is possible. So we all must be prepared for that. And that means getting really informed — the more informed you are, the more likely you are to take action. Start talking about it with people. I think the day of “let’s not talk about this or that” among friends and family has to come to an end.

Mark: Agreed.

William: And as for the astrological community, we need to start talking about it too! Why? Because these days there are so many astrologers that keep saying “well, you know, if Jupiter transits such and such it’s all going to work out,” or “it’s all going to be fine.” Sorry, it’s not all going to be fine. The other thing is, for those folks who are aging Baby Boomers and have retired or are on the verge of retiring, I suggest that wealth preservation needs to be their foremost concern. They should not assume that their pension is going to be there. They should take matters into their own hands to secure and preserve their wealth, because the next thing I see going is the pensions. Yes, the PENSIONS! I think I might write an article called “It’s the Pensions, Stupid.”

Mark: (Laughs)

William: Why? Because all the pensions are connected to the bond funds (which is debt) and most of those bonds are worth zero now, or they’re worth pennies on the dollar. And many of the Baby Boomers, (including the Baby Boomer astrologers) still believe they are going to get that big fat $1.1 or $2.1 million pension [based on their 401K contributions since 1974] while the Millennial and Gen-Xer’s will continue paying into a pension system that they know is essentially insolvent since the 2007 crisis, are deluded! In fact, many of the Baby Boomers are unaware that the latest statement in Social Security states by 2029, you will only receive as of today, 77% of what the projected number is. So they say by 2030 you’ll get X amount per month. However, if you can only expect 77% of that number (it’s an asterisk on the bottom of the Social Security statements). This should be major news. So, I advise people [who seek my counsel about their long-term financial future] that no matter what the establishment candidates say — that being Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush — they have no solution to this problem [or to most any of the intractable problem we have as a nation]. For they are both paid off by Wall Street. They are both puppets to an oligarchical elite that serves another agenda. So I tell my clients this stuff, and when I do some get very upset and choose to take action; others walk away and think I’m totally [out of my mind] crazy, despite the compelling secular evidence and trends. However, most of my clients come around a second time and say, “Okay, I’m ready to hear what you have got say. What asset allocation will survive this, should I buy gold, how do I buy silver, how do I preserve my wealth no matter what happens?” They also ask, “How do I prepare if we have a dislocation occurrence, how long will it last? What websites can I go to? How can I get more informed? How can I take action in my local community and start speaking up and presenting this information to others?” So that’s the advice I give, and encourage them to follow up with [massive] action.

For those folks listening to this interview, I suggest that you don’t just listen to this show, say these guys are crazy, and that I’m going to go back and vote for Hillary and Jeb because no matter what it’s all going to work out. I’m asking people to take action [at some level] and do your own research. Try and prove us wrong. Try and prove that the secular data is not there, that the financial data is not there, that the historical data is not there, and then prove that the astrology is not there either.

Just as an example, for those skeptical astrologers who are listening, every Uranus-Pluto alignment which was using a 10-degree orb, there’s always been a market or bank panic; that’s always been a [following] recession or a depression however you want to define it. There’s always been a massive recapitulation in political power. So this has gone on perfectly since 1790, since the inception of this nation’s government. These are things I try and stress with people, I talk about it, I try and weave it into a reading even if they come to me when they want to know if and how they can get back together with their millionaire boyfriend. Whatever it is, I try to wake them up; showing them there’s a lot more going on in the world right now than meeting narcissistic, immediate gratification needs.

Mark: Right. That’s very interesting. One thing that I see a lot of times in the astrological community too is, we just have the last of the seven Uranus-Pluto squares so we get through that and then people expect that that energy is done. Well, it’s not done. Sometimes there are things going on in the background which we said Pluto rules conspiracies and secrets and hidden agendas, so there’s a potential that big things happened at that point, they just have not hit the mainstream of our collective consciousness. So some of these things may not have been found out yet. And as we go through, we’re getting ready to start a Saturn-Neptune square cycle and we’re going to have Jupiter in Capricorn a couple years down the road, and that’s going to be forming squares to the Uranus-Pluto conjunction — squares to Uranus and conjunctions to Pluto. So, some of the stuff that has happened, maybe has just not hit the light of day yet.

William: Well, here’s the thing. We have Uranus-Pluto, if you use the 10-degree wide orb, it went into effect back in February 2007 when the Chinese markets dropped 461 points and we saw the collapse of Bear Stearns, one of the largest banking institutions in the world, shortly thereafter. That basically set off the 2007-2009 Great Recession which we have not really recovered from. Since that time we’ve had escalating geopolitical breakdown, escalating global financial contraction, and monetary intervention by central banks to buck up [and prop] the system. And using that orb we will not be done [feeling the impact Uranus-Pluto until 2020. Now during that period, you are going to have the Jupiter-Saturn square this August [2015]. And, if you use a 5-degree orb, it’s already in effect, and will continue to be well into 2018. As you know the Jupiter-Saturn cycle has much to do with the political and social establishment, also the creation and development of capital, and heavy capital investment in infrastructure for the purpose of expansion and development of the broader economy. However, when it’s a backward square, what will be exposed is the collapse of capital formation occurring in the system due to the gross malinvestment of money directed into defunct industries and the propping up of Wall Street banks with the Federal Reserve bailouts and quantitative easing [QE] programs 2007-2013. As a result, we will witness the ramifications of this insane strategy by the Fed. As the recovery and expansion of Wall Street hasn’t resulted in the expansion and development of the broader economy on Main Street.

And then we have the Saturn-Neptune cycle, and then we begin the Saturn-Pluto cycle which actually begins in late 2016. So all these planetary alignments are converging in their effect lead to some “big event.” That’s the point.

Mark: And we have an exact Jupiter-Saturn square this Monday morning [August 3, 2015] at Jupiter 28 Leo and Saturn at 28 Scorpio. So that’ll be one of the fist exact squares in this cycle. And some you’ve mentioned a couple of times and I forgot to chime in there, about how they’ve been feeding money into the banks and they’ve been holding on to it. This is like when they expanded the fractional reserve lending which allowed banks to originally loan 5% of what they actually had in hand, and then they boosted it to 10% of what they had in hand. Now I think it’s probably unlimited, but instead of floating out debts it’s like they’re holding on to that extra amount that’s being floated to them, instead of lending it out to keep the economy flowing.

William: That’s correct. Yes, that’s correct.

Mark: Okay.

William: So I think the bottom line is that people have to just wake up and realize that what’s happening in Greece is going to happen to America. It will not happen immediately, but between now and the next five years, we can see an economic collapse [unfold]. Right now Greece is in the midst of a total collapse. Retail sales plunged 70%, doctors have fled the country, people are now bartering. This is not mainstream news. This is something nobody wants to talk about.

Mark: Right.

William: And another thing is we don’t need to wait until the U.S. stock market starts to crash before we can ask “oh, so when is it going to collapse…?” Folks — it’s already begun. The collapse [on a global scale] has already begun.

Mark: Right. And this is not to scare people, this is to help people be prepared so that you already have things in place and things going in the right direction when this does happen. It’s just kind of a wake-up call.

William: Exactly, yes! So, the bottom line is that we’re going to see a major reconfiguration. A [collective] psycho-spiritual death-rebirth event and a major reconfiguration of the United States. It will be the end of the United States 2.0 [1900-2020] and the beginning of the United States 3.0 in the following decade. Right now we’re actually going through more of the death and the first early stage of the transformation, and we are not going see much of the rebirth yet. That will happen more in the early 2020s from my long-range perspective. Also, I believe we will witness the death of the two-party system [and rule of government], along with the breakdown and death [through a deflationary] implosion of the fractional reserve lending system that will be followed by a middle class revolt. Folks, what we are going to see is not Occupy Wall Street but rather Occupy All Street! It’s coming and that’s something neither Jeb Bush nor Hillary Clinton want to address or talk about.

[In regards to] the election of 2016, we may get a really dynamic leader — like I mentioned earlier with Pluto, you may witness a very powerful, grassroots leader emerge. That has happened before as we saw happen in the ’30s with Hitler. But unless we get a really powerful grassroots leader, populist leader to emerge, what we’re likely going to see is an election that looks like a “don’t ask and don’t tell” presidential reality TV show, or campaign. And if you want to participate in that [type of establishment campaign], you are basically setting up this country to self-destruct at a much faster pace. We can have a crisis followed by transformation, or we can have a crisis followed by death. It’s really up to you at this point. If you believe that it all can be fixed by somebody else by pulling the [establishment Hillary-Jeb vote] lever, as you continue living in debt, believing they are the only viable solution for the nation, then you have essentially made the decision to choose to allow the nation to implode economically, politically, socially, and spiritually.

Mark: Yes.

William: It’s up to you. The choice is up to you.

Mark: Yeah, I totally agree. And that’s what I try to tell people. When you see a big energy coming down the road, Uranus station or a Pluto transit or whatnot, you can sit in the corner and be afraid or you can throw something into the middle of the road that you want blown up. So we can use this energy, this transformative, destructive energy to our benefit to change the things that are wrong with our country and out financial system.

William: I totally agree with you, Mark.

Mark: Awesome. Awesome stuff. I know I told you I’d only keep you here an hour, is there any last messages or anything else you want to share with people?

William: Well, I’m just letting people know if they go to my blog or my website, I have a lot of articles on this. I present the data, both secular and astrological; I use a lot of graphs, I keep it short and sweet because I know it can get boring and I know most people’s attention span is no more 30 seconds per blog post.

Mark: Right.

William: I plan to be writing more now. I’m writing another article on the upcoming Shemitah. The prophecy of the Shemitah and how that correlates historically with the death, destruction and rebirth of economies, and how that correlates within a modern astrological context. Also, I try and get people to think about things that most people are not thinking about, especially within the astrological community. And I plan to make it very clear to the leadership of the astrological community that pontificate for their podiums, that I am not intimidated by their continued passive marginalization of what is happening out there. I have been collecting the evidence [and doing my homework] seeing these mundane trends to playout. Also, I’m making myself very clear to the astrological leadership that if you want to keep saying “it’s all okay,” that’s fine, but you’re also going to hear from me and other astrologers. For I’m not the only one out there — there are other astrologers out there, using all different systems of astrology, that are coming to a very powerful counterpoint consensus of saying “it’s not okay; we are in a major global crisis.” For the continued level of denial is now going to present a really big credibility issue within the larger astrological community if this keeps up that keeps saying “steady as it goes, the only thing to really be concerned about is global warming.” That is not totally true, and by the way I’m not playing down the ongoing ecological collapse. In fact, I’ve written many articles on Fukushima and the growing radiological crisis that the Obama Administration doesn’t want to tell you about. I have presented that data over and over. But the astrological community by and large doesn’t want to present this subject matter at a conference. And this is what needs to be discussed because this is our moment. We are one of the few people out there that can define, educate, and forecast what’s really going on.

Mark: Yeah, I agree. I believe if we stay asleep during this period, we will miss our opportunity. I’m giving a lecture at the Universal Life Expo in September [2015] called “Generation X: Time to Awaken” and those of us born in the mid-’60s — well, throughout the ’60s but especially in that ’65-’67 time period — I mean, we’re going to have unprecedented power at our disposal that 99% of the people who’ve ever lived will never experience. We’ve got that Uranus-Pluto conjunction in our chart, we’re going to get an exact trine from transiting Pluto in Capricorn and a conjunction from Neptune in the North Node, and we’re going to get this in the middle part of [2016]. I mean, that is a powerful, powerful alignment, and the Generation Xers have been known as the slackers but, you know, we’re just late bloomers. And so if we miss this opportunity where we have this incredible power at our disposal, we will not have that opportunity again. So time to awaken.

William: I totally agree. I’m really happy to hear you’re doing that presentation on Generation X because its certainly not talked about enough, under-reported. You see the Baby Boomer astrologers continue to pontificate their contributions to the culture. They [overlook Generation X] and continue to talk about the promise of the Millennials. And [while they do this,] Generation X is coming to power. I believe the next president in 2020 will be a full Generation X; I don’t buy into that Obama is a true Generation X president. And I’m not just talking about presidents; I’m talking about leaders. Yes, Mark, I believe you will be right as the shift [in power] into Generation X will have a dramatic impact over the next 3-4 years. But it certainly begins next year, no doubt about it, where many will come to power. And it’s going to be a major game-changer, a whole different paradigm shift. A whole different perspective. A whole different way of leadership. And we’re going to see that effect at every different level — the civic level, municipals, the federal level. We’re going to see it in government, in finance, in industry. We’re going to see it in the way global politics occurs. And, also, I believe that Generation X is going to be very aware of the oligarchy, very aware of transnational interests, very aware of Deep State. And I believe this new generation of leadership will confront the oligarchy very much in the same way Teddy Roosevelt confronted the Robber Barons and all those Capitals of Industry who were behind the railroad, steel, oil, and banking monopolies, where he took them on and he broke up their trusts and created powerful anti-trust legislation and really changed the country and in effect made this country into the world’s greatest economic and military superpower in the history of the world. So I believe that it’s possible and can happen over again. I even maintain and believe we can become an even greater Superpower, not necessarily militarily, but culturally and technologically that transforms the world, that makes it a better place. A Superpower that transitions us from a Type 0 to a Type 1 civilization where we create and integrate A.I. into society and alternative energy systems and methods of manufacturing, and cleaner ways of production and growth. We can be the leaders again. But it cannot happen with this current group of leadership, and this current paradigm that operates as a kleptocracy, with a antiquated uni-polar 1999 world view, that controls and manipulates every sector in the nation, while pontificating democracy. Because of that we as a nation and people are paying the price at every level. It is now time, I believe, for the Generation Xers to come to power and to show the world, and the oligarchy what they got. It’s going to be their turn to come up to bat, and I am betting heavy that they’re going to hit some home runs over the coming decade.

Mark: I agree totally. This is a huge opportunity. And, too, a section of the Generation Xers are having their Chiron return. What a better time to heal the earth and heal the economy and heal our country than having your Chiron return along with the Jupiter-North Node-Pluto transit. The energy is… the wind is to our backs. It’s time for us to wake up and — this goes against what I’ve always preached but — maybe have a little less patience with things right now.

William: Right. Well, I’m in total alignment with you and I want to thank you for having me on the show. I have to get going now; I actually have to go back to my avocation. (laughs) I have to go to work, actually. But I want to thank you again and hopefully we can talk in the future about the election, go deeper into that.

Mark: Absolutely.

William: And talk deeper about some of the other things that are active in the U.S. chart and certainly what’s happening in the world.

Mark: Absolutely. I know your time is very valuable; I appreciate you taking some time to spend with us and going over some of these very important details that people may have missed. So I hope you have a great day at work, and we would love to have you back on in the future.

William: Thank you very much, Mark. I appreciate it. Talk to you soon.

Mark: Thank you, William. Okay, so there you go. Straight-forward. That’s the deal. William Stickevers, our guest there. I have his website in the chat room and on my Facebook page, so you can find him at WilliamStickevers.com and at WilliamStickevers.Wordpress.com and he also has some YouTube videos up there. So we want to thank him for all of the great information out there, and if we went a little fast on some of the stuff, the show will be up for archive listening in a couple hours. If you want to understand what’s going on with the economy or you want to be able to tell people about some of the info he shared, you can just go and download the show or re-listen at your convenience.

“When [the system] implodes it will implode more dangerously [then it did back in 2008]. The IMF and the Fed have different ideas about whether rates should stay low or go up. In this particular round the IMF won. They want rates to stay low because they don’t know what’s going to happen to the global financial system if the availability of cheap money goes away….Right now everyone knows, whether they admit it or not, that cheap money is the only thing that’s keeping the global financial system afloat. It isn’t production. It isn’t savings of individuals because nobody has any money to save. So there is no there, there.”

“All they [- the Central Banks] can do is continue to push the current policies to make it look as if things are operating functionally — as if these banks are solvent and as if these markets are somehow elevated on the basis of [real] value and not on the basis of the cheap money [printed out of thin air] that they are infusing into the system. That’s all they can do. They just hope that somewhere along the line this will work out.”

“So the only policy that these Central Banks have is to continue to do more of the same. And the only thing that does, is continue to push this next crisis, or the second leg of the current crisis as I look at it, down the road. There is no saving this (global financial) system.”

-Nomi Prins
American author, journalist
Former managing director at Goldman-Sachs and at Bear Stearns

The the mundane astrological portents and the Uranus-Pluto square alignments that have been archetypally operative from 2012-2015 supports Prins’ analysis and conclusion of the global financial system. The Mundane Planetary Cyclic Index (graph below), is the sum of all the angular distances between the pairs of the outer planets, Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto. The Cyclic Index has proven to be one of the most accurate predictive tools for mundane astrologers for determining economic growth and political relations among nations. According to mundane astrologer Andre Barbault, the sum waxing phase (ascending line) of each planetary pair are considered periods of stability and evolution (constructive growth, development, expansive, progressive with optimism and diplomacy ) while the waning phase (descending line) are periods of crises and involution (contraction, decay, recession, pessimism, war and destruction).

The Mundane Planetary Cyclic Index 1900-2000. The Mundane Planetary Cyclic Index is the sum of all the angular distances between the pairs of the outer planets, Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto. The Cyclic Index has proven to be one of the most accurate predictive tools for mundane astrologers for determining economic growth and political relations among nations.

The final Uranus-Pluto square occurred on March 16th 2015. The Uranus-Pluto alignment coincided with a millennium shift to the East, with the launch of the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) on March 31, 2015, a competitor to the IMF and the World Bank based in Washington D.C., during which time many allied nations to the the United States, including the United Kingdom, signed-up for membership for AIIB, even as the United States was applying pressure to prevent them from joining. The fact that the other major members of the IMF have signed on to the AIIB is a clear indicator that the United States is essentially being isolated on the global monetary field. The long-term geopolitical implications this event are enormous.

Horoscope for the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB)

Projecting forward, the final Uranus-Pluto alignment occurred as the Mundane Cyclic Cyclic Index continues its precipitous downward plunge, descending 494 points from its peak in May 2014 at 994 to 500 in March 2022. This augurs that we are heading into a perilous period where much of the damage control enforced during the 2007-2009 financial crisis by the central banks and government will begin to fail.

Uranus-Pluto alignments occur as the Mundane Cyclic Cyclic Index continues its precipitous downward plunge, descending 494 points from its peak in May 2014 at 994 to 500 in March 2022.

Therefore we can expect powerful shocks to occur the system resulting in drastic changes in financial positions, along will titanic geopolitical power plays, accelerating market volatility, major market corrections, bank panics, and often unexpected and sudden large-scale economic failure. Also during this period we can expect excessive rationalization by the mainstream financial news media, and unprecedented proclamations by governments, to prevent the loss of credibility with the general populace, as unexpected “volcanic shocks” to the global system continue to intensify.

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The chief economist of the world’s third largest bank, HSBC’s Stephen King, has compared the global economy to the Titanic. He believes that we are now nearer to the next global recession than we are to the last one which ended (at least for the too big to fail Wall Street banks) in June of 2009:

“We may not know what will cause the next downswing but, at this stage, we can categorically state that, in the event we hit an iceberg, there aren’t enough lifeboats to go round.

“The world economy is like an ocean liner without lifeboats. Global debt has soared by 40 percent since the Great Recession. We now have a staggering $200 trillion of debt globally, or almost three times the size of the global economy. The world economy is like an ocean liner without lifeboats. If another recession hits, it could be a truly titanic struggle for policymakers.”

– HSBC’s Stephen King

Prediction: Nomi Prins has made it clear in her keynote speech to the IMF and Federal Reserve that there is no saving global financial system. The Mundane Cyclic Planetary Index also makes clear that we have entered a period of pain, change, and crisis as we witness radical events of collapsing global currencies, contracting national economies, along with the breakdown and collapse of unsustainable, obsolete, and untenable systems of finance and banking. When this gigantic financial bubble finally implodes, it is going to be absolutely pernicious and horrific, and the entire planet is going to be shocked by the carnage and social upheaval that will follow.

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