Monday, April 06, 2015

Do you really want this in the West? Because this is exactly what you are enthusiastically importing everywhere from Spain to the USA. And for those of you of the SJW persuation, notice that there isn't a single straight white male body among them. Who do you think will die first, well-armed white men willing to fight or unarmed liberals in gun-free zones at universities?

"The terrorists raided the university early on Thursday morning.... A total of 148 people were killed in the six-hour siege, with the gunmen
shooting and beheading those who could not recite the Koran."

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I tried (perhaps against my better judgement) to explain to a liberal fellow in my life the other day the importance of tribalism, and how a people define themselves by the tribe they belong to.

The conversation stumbled one way or another into how America is comprised of many people from different countries. I tried telling the guy that we have been mostly a white anglo-saxon Protestant nation since the beginning, and that is what has kept us together and "unified" over the years.

He scoffed and said in so many words that it is immigration and diversity that makes up America. I'm sure he's proud of America's multiculturalism. And when the rubber hits the road in our bleak future, men like him will have no earthly idea why things are going to crap so quickly.

In fact, I have not a doubt in my mind that when things turn awful in this country, men like him will actually be denying that anything bad is happening at all. And stories like this one, even on a local news channel, will just fly over his head.

There is a very unthinking, teutonic strain of order uber alles that permeates the feelings of many Americans. If there is a rule, then it must be followed. This phenomenon is on a direct collision course with the fact that uncontrolled immigration and laws that prohibit discrimination against immigrants (the rules) are inherently opposed to order. In no small part because the immigrants themselves are opposed to and somewhat incapable of teutonic order.

Wrt anti-discrimination laws in particular, one should never give an order (or institute a rule) that one should know will be disobeyed... but if pride goeth before a fall, then hubris might well push one off a cliff. TPTB have both in abundance, so we'll probably be entertained by the immigrant hiring police in open conflict with the gay wedding cake police (and the tranny bathroom police, the fake rape police, the badthink police, etc ad nauseum) before the wheels come off.

In the meantime, normal, decent, Christian Americans can only build their own communities and do their best to avoid doing business with their enemies such as those individuals, institutions, and companies that support immigration, "social justice", progressivism, etc. And, where possible, strike back by attacking those who would destroy us or at least refusing to comply with their foolish rules.

Naturally there's no semi-appropriate song you can sing that everyone knows, that means anything that's been approved by the mass culture machine, that can would enjoy the approval of the author, because the whole establishment is anti-white and has been time out of mind.

Remember that if you oppose Islamic mass immigration, with jihad to follow, you will have clergy against you.

The group said its hundreds of supporters were rallying against Islamic extremism, and not Muslims in general, but Welcome to Australia's pastor Brad Chilcott said many of the signs and comments at the rallies were hurtful.

"It's very easy to protest against a concept, but when you know the individuals that are impacted by this and recognise that they are just everyday people like you and I trying to make their way in Australia, you see the real damage that images like these do to people," he said.

"It's basically implicating good Muslim people in the political movements of a tiny minority," she said.

Ms Gregson said the coalition of community organisations, trade unions and left groups had chosen to hold their rally at Federation Square to directly oppose Reclaim Australia's message.

"We're not interested in holding our rally somewhere else and talking to people who already agree that racism is a bad thing — the vast majority of people in Australia agree with us on that," she said.

"What we're trying to say is that this is dangerous to allow hate speech to occur on the streets of Melbourne."

If you don't want your nation's future to be that picture, there is no point in playing along with any part of the establishment, whether it claims to stand for Jesus, the working class, or peace, love and familiar songs. In truth, the whole establishment says "yes" to that ghastly scene.

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The SJW strategy will be simple: learn to recite the Koran. Not with any belief, of course, but simply for self-defense. It'll come naturally to them, as they routinely learn to recite things they don't really know or understand as a way to signal their in-group status and protect themselves from the attacks they stir up against the Other.

"And for those of you of the SJW persuation, notice that there isn't a single straight white male body among them."

That's what they want. At that point, even if there are rough edges in the multicultural paradise, they have got what they want.

The programmers of the social justice warrior drones are not signed up for collective self-annihilation. Only a people with an awesome will to survive collectively could pursue policies for decade after decade, which is what we see.

But for the social justice warrior drones, self-annihilation is part of the deal. This is both collective and individual, as you can see from their negative fertility and the way they (don't) maintain themselves. They are tools: they exist to pollute, to corrupt and destroy, and then there is no further need for them.

They were not Muslims: No True Muslim would act like that. They were not terrorists: they were lone wolves, not affiliated with any group. They were provoked; in 1492. They were justified, acting in self-defense, their way of life threatened by Western ideas. It is America's fault. I blame Bush.

Yeah... you can laugh at it. And I live in the US, where I won't have to worry about a jihadists attack. However, never underestimate the idiocy of the Left"s response... supporting massive gun control that can lead to civil war.

I've been thinking of starting a church that preaches, among other things, that 'religion is politics'. One of the church policies would be that, voluntarily of course, the members are urged to report their taxes, but instead of sending money to the IRS, put that amount owed into an escrow account, to be released only on the stipulation that the government change at least one of their egregious policies such as universal abortion.

Maybe such a thing has been tried before, successfully or otherwise. Comments, anyone?

While many SJW types are merely useful idiots, not realizing that what is pictured is what is part of the plan, their handlers do intend to create that scene here. They suggest, to the actors involved, that they support them. But that isn't true, either. Murderers will murder, and that creates chaos and fear, and that allows a government to take power. It is one of several possible ways for the current government to create a disaster for a future government to use. The current government, and past governments, assume, and correctly, that all governments are corrupt and look for these things. Which is why the framers attempted to limit government.

I expected a backfire in their plans, but I don't see it happening. Distractions, fear, and pay-offs seem to be keeping the sheep happy... and fat/lazy... enough.

George... what you're suggesting will end with you and all your like minded brethren burning to death in the your church... and the public you were hoping to sway will likely be screaming for your deaths while you burn because they have been told you're a cult of child molesters.

George of the Jungle:the members are urged to report their taxes, but instead of sending money to the IRS, put that amount owed into an escrow accountFriendly advice; DON'T screw around with the IRS. They play really rough, and they play for keeps - as in keeping you locked up for years.

"Maybe such a thing has been tried before, successfully or otherwise. Comments, anyone" ...

By tried before do you mean tax protesting or starting you own church that convieniently holds religious beleifs against paying taxes ? ... I am sorry but I think on all fronts the history is such that you will be unsucessfull and end up branded a nut, sent to prision, or killed by the DCF, IRS, ATF (insert appropiate 3 digit governement acronym here :) ) -- religious rights is one thing, but when you try to cut off the food to the beast it gets mean ...

"Who do you think will die first, well-armed white men willing to fight or unarmed liberals in gun-free zones at universities?"

Heres a dirtly little secret .. many liberals own guns too ..who do you think is buying all these small size LCP/LC9/Nano/SW bodyguard/380 Glocks etc (certainly not the ilk -- who wouldnt be caught dead with anything less than 40 cal) ... remember an interview with Bill Maher who is anti 2nd amendment .. yet he admits to owning guns. ..anyone with any intelligence must see that there will be is aneed to be able to defend onself on this world.

"Do you really want this in the West? Because this is exactly what you are enthusiastically importing everywhere from Spain to the USA. "

I call bullshit, Vox! You know damn well that there is no comparison at all between Kenya and the USA. None other than they are land masses. You don't explain exactly how this is going to come to the U.S. because you know it isn't. Don't be a fucking demagogue. Either make your case in a rational way or don't make the claim.

@george, instead start an organization that will expose the shadowy networks of leftist nonprofits that masquerade as charities and find their war against you. Also expose their supporters (e.g. Girlscouts supporting Planned Abortionhood, Apple supporting gay marriage groups, PWC performing audits for Tides Foundation, etc.). Encourage others to boycott their supporters and be explicit as to why. Cut them off from their bases of support.

Wesley Snipes ? ... perhaps by his screen personality Blade .. yeah .. he got several years as an example.

The grandfather of all this tax protester stuff -- Irwin Schiff -- hailed from my neck of woods. When you read about this subject stuff you realize that they often right but regardless always lose when facing the government... Its a no-win situation.

I really dont have a problem rendering to Caesar what is Caesar's ... it pays for the roads, keeps the prisons staffed and the local cops paid ... as long as we remember to give to God what is his...

So you've never heard of the Refugee Resettlement program. Angry Muslims who lost the sectarian battle for their local piece of Africa are exactly whom the US Government, Catholic Charities, and other Christian groups are happily importing.

cailcorishev:You don't explain exactly how this is going to come to the U.S.Remember Black Hawk Down? Guess where more than a few of those got transplanted to after that fiasco? Bizarrely, Minneapolis.

Stiletto,There is a very unthinking, teutonic strain of order uber alles that permeates the feelings of many Americans.Thank you!This actually explains a LOT about America. They are a kind of softer, slower, somewhat retarded version of the Germans prior to WW2. I forgot how much Teutonic DNA actually IS in 'murica.

It also explains the similarly retarded super-patriotic responses. So that if all of a sudden the US gov decided that war on say Australia was "the right thing to do" I am convinced that a large percentage of 'muricans would be all for it, waving flags and all.

And for those of the ilk that take offence at my characterisation of their co-nationals as retarded pre-nazis, please know that my view of my own countrymen is no more flattering. I see them as mostly ball-less posers more worried about their pasta sauce and co-ordinating their socks with their designer shoes than able or willing to consider anything a little tougher than the correct time it takes for spaghetti to be al dente. Humans in general give me a pretty powerful sense of nausea really. Muslims just get me straight to puke-speed without even any help from Scottie.

Tommy,You have better ships than us. If it is cheap, slaughter these fuckers please. Thank you.

congratulations. You are the first and so far ONLY Muslim I know who has directly stated this in an unequivocal manner. If you are willing and able, would you like however, to explain to me how the jihadists are "misinterpreting" the Koran? The parts of it I have read make it quite clear that the words of the Koran are to be taken literally and simply and they also quite clearly state that anything non-muslim should essentially be at best a second-class citizen (but without actual rights) and at worst, completely wiped from the face of the Earth, so... I am wondering:1. Have you actually READ the Koran?2. If yes, how to you interpret the passages that essentially direct you to slaughter and so on? I can provide references if you need them.

Stiletto=Stilicho - sorry damn autocorrect on this machine is very annoying, and I don't often proof-read. As Vox can confirm, as he remembers his bleeding eyes. One day I will wander over to settings and find out how to change it.

They don't actually do physical conflict so make sure you point out to them that your people will not protect them from their pets. A bitch slap is about as rough as they ever get. If they are having problems with a black neighbor that's the time you want to throw "diversity is strength, not all blacks are like that" back at them.

About the church of not paying taxes, I hate to tell you but one of the things on the SMJW agenda is to remove tax exempt status from churches so you don't want to make a convenient strawman. They think that by not paying taxes you are stealing money from LaTriana's 25 illegitimate crack babies, while they by paying tax on cigs/booze are paying their fair share while on welfare +sect8 + foodstamps. Instead of preaching not paying taxes provide copies of "Ragnar's Guide To The Underground Economy".

About the church being attacked you guys know that within 4 hours of an open letter being reposted entitled "No More Free Wacos" Eric "race card" Holder wet his panties and pulled his troops out of Bundy's ranch. http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/05/no-more-free-wacos-explication-of.html

"There is a very unthinking, teutonic strain of order uber alles that permeates the feelings of many Americans."

So you are saying that white people do things to make the areas around them cleaner and more orderly. Civilization is created by men who plant trees they will not know the shade of. One of the telling things after Katrina was all the black people complaining about seeing white people cleaning up their streets but not coming to clean theirs up. They didn't realize that the white people where just cleaning up the streets they lived on.

There is a very unthinking, teutonic strain of order uber alles that permeates the feelings of many Americans.

Well said; that's certainly true in the Midwest. People here are very resistant to anything that might upset the apple cart, even when they know the cart's full of rotten apples. They'll almost always stick with the devil they know to the unknown. You can turn them against anything by calling it "extreme" or "ultra-"anything, which is why many of them still think listening to Rush Limbaugh is pushing the envelope. That probably has a lot to do with why they move away from strife, even if it means abandoning the neighborhoods and churches they built and starting over elsewhere.

All up to a limit, of course. It's a high limit, but it's there. And when they get pushed to that limit....it won't be pretty.

Outgunned April 06, 2015 8:51 AMYou don't explain exactly how this is going to come to the U.S. because you know it isn't.

it's already here, you fucking retard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Fort_Hood_shooting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing_in_the_United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing#Canada

Giuseppe April 06, 2015 9:46 AMI forgot how much Teutonic DNA actually IS in 'murica.

there may actually be MORE people with Germanic heritage ( German, Austrian, Polish, Swiss ) than English ( the Anglo-Saxons were Teuton, remember? ) now. i know some years back there was a little bit of noise in the news media that that was happening.

i know the Amish and Mennonite ( all PennDutch are German ) are doing their part.

The minister at our church preached an offensive shocking sermon yesterday for Easter.

It was basically----White Genocide is good and will be great for the church.

It was so subversive and contemptible I couldn't not believe what was being said.

I doubt many in the congregation realized that the minister envisioned that the whites in the congregation would become minorities in their own nation just like they are in the world---all the while still giving the obligatory donations to help build latrines in Africa.

This was a low day in my church. I will write to the minister and explain why this is NOT Christianity--- it is socialism and racial activism-- and why I am OUT of such a church.

We were asked to pray for all the victims in Kenya--- but we have NEVER prayed for white victims in AFrica, in Europe or in cities of the US.

Nor have we ever prayed or made note of the attacks on Christian belief, conscience and living in American schools, law and private life.

"He scoffed and said in so many words that it is immigration and diversity that makes up America. I'm sure he's proud of America's multiculturalism. And when the rubber hits the road in our bleak future, men like him will have no earthly idea why things are going to crap so quickly."

Trying to get that notion changed is difficult enough amongst family members, even right-wing ones. Start off with family then move to friends and acquaitanances.

"NAJALT" :-)

@ Titus Didius Tacitus It brings a smile to my face that the Aussies had a nationwide rally against Sharia and that they ticked off so many people.

"The SJW strategy will be simple: learn to recite the Koran." Will they be able to recite the prayers to Mecca if they're asked to on the spot? Will they be able to do a daily wash if asked to on the spot? Oh, recite the Quran they may be able but they will eventually slip up on some other requested bona fide of being a Muslim and will be killed "for not being a true Muslim."

@Tommy The thought has crossed my mind before. Having said that, provided Jordan, Saudi, Egypt et. al. continue beating down the Houthis and start cleaning house in their own countries (stopping funding of fundamentalist schools that teach the destruction of the U.S.) the actions may actually speak louder than words for once and I may come to believe it at face value.

@outgunned

Regarding Vox's claim for Spain I can attest. I was there, knew a Spaniard that had a lovely direct interaction with a pissed Muslim because she a) was not Muslim and b) was in the Grand Mosque of Cordoba which has been a tourist attraction for centuries, and under Spaniard control since 1492. Look in previous posts for the full fleshing of that comment. It's going to come to the U.S. through immigration and illegal aliens. Look at Dearborn, MI (up to the 1980's Arab Christian, now where are all the Arab Christians), Plainfield, Indiana, or [insert a city you know of here]. Here's the problem with Americans: we do not pay attention, aggregately, to a problem, until it is right in front of our faces. Just because the media is not reporting on this Stateside (if you read thereligionofpeace you'll see what is happening) or it is not directly happening in your community DOES NOT MEAN IT IS NOT HAPPENING.

@YIH Did you see on Drudge the other day over half of Minneapolis Somalis are below the poverty line? Also, OT, VA is blogging again!

"It also explains the similarly retarded super-patriotic responses. So that if all of a sudden the US gov decided that war on say Australia was "the right thing to do" I am convinced that a large percentage of 'muricans would be all for it, waving flags and all."

*Bill Lumberg voice* Yeah....we better sit down and have a little chat. You see Peter, the Aussies, Brits, Kiwis, and Canucks are the best allies we have in the world. They are our cousins and fighting them would be the dumbest thing ever. So it's a nice example but it just doesn't hold up in real life. Also, I'm gonna need you to come in on Saturday and Sunday, yeah, we lost some people and we need to play catch up. Thanks!" Giuseppe I didn't take offense. I know what you were trying to say, I just think it was a poor example, yeah...

@cail Where in the Midwest do you hail from out of curiosity? Yeah, we're fortunate because we've been insulated to an extent from all the craziness hitting the rest of the country.

Not trolling or defending militant Islam. But isn't this blowback to Israel's Christian puppet attacking Muslim countries and killing and maiming thousands of innocent civilians and making millions homeless?

Did the angel Gabriel put those hate verses in the Koran or were they perhaps derived from the Old Testament and the Talmud?

I am all for defending our country from other countries and terrorists but can you defeat a religion? How many Muslims have to be killed before you win?

"I am all for defending our country from other countries and terrorists but can you defeat a religion? How many Muslims have to be killed before you win?"

Its really not difficult. The left has already provided the means to gut the first amendment and they've made it clear that the safety nets the founders put in place to keep the majority from dominating have been removed.

You simply, as the giant christian voting public, pass laws banning muslims from owning property.... and strip them of their citizenship.

I am all for defending our country from other countries and terrorists but can you defeat a religion? How many Muslims have to be killed before you win?

Yes, you can defeat a religion, but you already knew that because you supplied the answer as to how. You kill the people who follow it.

There must be a better way.

The only "better way" that comes close to working is completely ignoring them and letting them kill each other. But in order to ignore them, we'd have to deport them first. Or make them uncomfortable enough that the self-deport.

Depriving Muslims of the the right to own property wouldn't work. Such an act would result in opposition not only from incompetent SJW's, but also from many who would otherwise have no problem giving Mecca & Medina the same treatment Carthage received from Rome

In America, Social justice warriors go door to door now. Speak into the microphone please. Will you celebrate a homosexual "wedding" with us for money? No? Well we're going to destroy your little shop and shame with the force of the mass media, crush you with mobs, and maybe fine you or put you in jail.

Now in reality, the establishment is anti-white, so judges will decide that whatever it takes to harm white interests is in the constitution.

But from the point of view of democratic legitimacy it's simple. The option to put in place an amendment to the constitution that would have made it hard to suppress Islam by force of law was put to the people, and the people rejected it.

A Visitor: downstate Illinois, corn and soybean country, not far from where Huck Finn rafted. 95% white, 48% German, 22% English, 9% Irish. Great people, great land, wouldn't want to live anywhere else. But a people who also still have an enormous, 1950s-level amount of faith in America to solve all problems without too much hassle, people who still idolize cops, military, teachers, anyone with a uniform or a government-approved piece of paper. They totally believe that "bring us your unwashed" stuff, completely confident that America will turn Somali Muslims into farmers and shopkeepers just like it did German Lutherans and Irish Catholics. Not that they've ever met a Somali Muslim, of course, but they still know. To think otherwise -- that America can't do something -- is almost blasphemy to them.

"You simply, as the giant christian voting public, pass laws banning muslims from owning property.... and strip them of their citizenship."

Indeed, let us return to the idyllic South, circa 1930. Where niggers knew their place and whites could justifiably keep them in line (rolling of eyes).

"They totally believe that "bring us your unwashed" stuff, completely confident that America will turn Somali Muslims into farmers and shopkeepers just like it did German Lutherans and Irish Catholics."

The true keepers of the faith.

"it's already here, you fucking retard."

It's here, but it's a rare occurrence. But, to play it safe, since it probable that the Muzzies who live down the block are planning for my untimely demise, I'll go play Rambo on their sorry asses. Totally justified in the eyes of the Lord. I'm certain my neighbors will appreciate my bloody rampage.

Keep in mind the image white liberals have when they think of diversity. They see a bunch of grateful brown people living under the white liberal's benign guidance. That's the high-minded version anyway. The more practical version is an exchange: the white liberals give the brown people stuff stolen from white conservatives and in exchange the brown people give the white liberals power and status.

Liberals tend to be linear thinkers. If today the immigrants bloc vote for white liberal candidates, then they figure adding more immigrants means that tomorrow white liberal candidates will get even more votes! And everything else will be exactly the same...

As so many temporary usurpers have said after inviting foreigners to help them steal the crown, "Oops."

To think otherwise -- that America can't do something -- is almost blasphemy to them.

Very true Cail, but that attitude will become an advantage when that 95% conclude the problem has gotten out of hand and needs to be fixed. Winston Churchill's comment that Americans can be relied upon to do the right thing, after first exhausting all other possibilities, comes to mind.

I am not talking about the right to own property but not letting them on taxpayer paid benefits. Pretty much all the moslems in the US came via the Refugee Resettlment Project that used US tax dollars to import them and puts them on welfare/section8 /foodstamps. The boston marathon brothers where on welfare when the Russians warned us about them.

"because a rare occurrence today could NEVER become a common occurrence tomorrow."

Good for you admitting that Muslim-Americans today rarely engage in jihad on their home soil. Regarding the likelihood that the United States will become a place where beheadings and firebombings are the norm committed by Muslims against Christians, the word "never" does not come to mind. More like "improbable". But believe in the pipe dream, Bobby.

Jack, right. Some people think America is doomed because you can't get Americans out of their recliners to do anything. But I tell them, if you make all these guys get out of their recliners to deal with you, you're going to be very sorry, because they're going to do their best to make sure they don't have to get up and do it again.

I mean, I live among some of the most non-violent, non-confrontational people in the world as far as their personal lives go, and they're proud of the fact that their nation nuked two cities! What's that tell ya?

1st, the Middle Eastern Muslims are perfectly capable of running a civilization, not one like ours right now and these are not stupid people. They invented algebra among other things and while they haven't done much of late, the DNA for smarts is still there. Persian tend to be as smart as Europeans as I understand it They issues for them are tribalism and Islam , the later is supposed to compensate for the former as Christendom was supposed to for the West but Islam is even more fractious than Christianity and that's saying something.

2nd Even the high IQ ones save maybe a few Christians cannot and must not be allowed in the West since their societies are incompatible with ours. If they and we cannot mind our own borders, they have to go,

3rd Africa is not our problem, maybe the Christians and White people there are to a limited degree but that continent is nothing but trouble for us. We don't really belong there, nor they here I would however be fine with Christians signing up as mercenaries or volunteers to aid African Christians, Its the State that should be hands off. As for the White South Africans and others we should expel some 10 million Mexicans and simply repatriate all Boers to the US, one time offer, If they have people elsewhere they can go there . Than we can be done with that hellhole continent .

4th Yes its perfectly possible for a coalition of nation states to basically end Islam fairly cheaply and with modest loss of Western life , its not a technical problem so much as a lack of will or interest in so doing combined with legitimate fears of destabilizing things too much.

5th Before we do any of these things, we have to control the State itself. That's easier said than done and complicated at least for the US by the fact our "Right" are mostly crypto- anarchists , quasi-libertarians and wannabe Cinnicantus types, exactly the people unsuited to do anything difficult. I can't speak for Europe but I'd guess they'll need to control the State and they'll have to build a pro-natal economy and society based on the natural cultures first. No NDSAP "rationalism" but something where its good to be German and part of that is having German kids , same for everybody else. Not simple but as its pretty natural once supression of that by the Cathedral ends, it won't be as hard as some think, its the natural course of things

6th We must not war with other Europeans. We've almost destroyed ourselves repeatedly and that must end.

Regarding the likelihood that the United States will become a place where beheadings and firebombings are the norm committed by Muslims against Christians, the word "never" does not come to mind. More like "improbable".

I would tend to agree with you. However, after what has happened with gay marriage, I would hesitate to use the word improbable. If gay marriage, which wasn't even in the vocabulary thirty years ago, can come into existence and become accepted despite 2000 years of history, I wouldn't discount anything.

In short, it really isn't that hard to get why Muslims aren't doing all the shit as frequently in the US as they are in Kenya.

Americanized Muslims are either in Stage 0, IE, they are COMPLETELY clueless about Jihad and the integral part it plays in being more than a nominal, wishy-washy Muslim. They've been more influenced by white washers of Islam in the West than actual, genuine Muslims.

That, or they are in Stage 1, IE, Stealth Jihad, since they don't yet have the right mix of demographics and political power.

Most Americanized Muslims are in Stage 0, but even being nominal Muslims, they grow more susceptible to actually taking their faith seriously as the Muslim population increases in both number and power. That, or, the nominal muslims just sit things out and let their more serious brethren provide bodies, material, and emotional support.

So, in other words, as people have already told you, American Muslims not being as aggressive as their Kenyan counterparts is only indicative of the fact that they are either ignorant of the Koran and The Hadith and feel far more subdued here in America than in Kenya because they lack numbers and political power. Once the numbers start growing though, at worst, you can expect massacres like the ones in Kenya to become as mundane as Tuesday over here and at best, those Muslims in America who remain Americanized are just going to do jack as the jack boots come stomping on your face and mine, though more so yours since I plan on getting armed as soon as I hit the legal age for carrying in my state.

I would tend to agree with you. However, after what has happened with gay marriage, I would hesitate to use the word improbable. If gay marriage, which wasn't even in the vocabulary thirty years ago, can come into existence and become accepted despite 2000 years of history, I wouldn't discount anything.

There is a huge difference between gays getting married and Susie Q being raped and Johnny being beheaded by some islamofacist. We all notice the bubbling of discontent throughout American society, be it from the left or right, and a lot of Americans are unhappy, and I suspect, a few straws away from outright going medieval on someone/something and all anyone needs is a justification.

Bob Sacamano April 06, 2015 3:30 PMRegarding the likelihood that the United States will become a place where beheadings and firebombings are the norm committed by Muslims against Christians, the word "never" does not come to mind. More like "improbable".

you know, back in 2006 Mark Steyn asserted the same thing about Europe and he was roundly castigated as racist and xenophobic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_Alone

now, here we are less than 10 years later and we've got Charlie Hebdo, and preteen rape/prostitution gangs made up of 'Asians' and neighborhoods all over Europe that are 'no go' zones for the police and safety crews and even good Lieberal orgs like the BBC asking questions about the wisdom of the open borders policy.

am i projecting this ( widespread societal muzzie terrorism ) to happen to America in < 10 years? no. because most of our immigration is illegals from central America. and if nothing else, MS-13 isn't going to put up with their shit.

but 10 years, 100 years, 1000 years, it's all going the same place.

and you're a little faggot ( just like Keynes ) who wants to argue that "In the long run, we're all dead" so why should you worry about it?

Christians, *NON-WHITE* Christians are being murdered and cleansed from homelands in North Africa and the Mid-East in which they have lived for 2000 thousand years.

by Muslims.

and you have nothing to say.

do you only care about ethnic cleansing when the victim wears a six pointed star?

Bob Sacamano April 06, 2015 3:32 PMWell, when the white conservatives have generally stolen things from the darkies and the Indians

1 - the slave holders were all Democrats2 - Negro Africans built practically nothing of value themselves ( see: Timbuktu, which is made of mud https://duckduckgo.com/?t=palemoon&q=Timbuktu&iax=1&ia=images )3 - the natives of North America didn't build anything much more impressive than the New Smyrna shell moundhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle_Mound

you can whine about the Spanish stealing gold from Central and South America and you've got a point.

English and Germanic Europeans built everything in North America because there WAS NOT anything here before we came.

11B April 06, 2015 4:17 PM If gay marriage, which wasn't even in the vocabulary thirty years ago

when being interviewed in the 60s, queers specifically disavowed any interest in marriage, disparaging themselves the concept of 'Gay Marriage' as absurd.

No guns in Italy unfortunately. I have decent knowledge of the Quran but acting like a european converted to Islam to save my life would be apostasy and denying Christ. In an interview an heroic christian syrian fighter said he had a tattoo of a cross on his arm so that he would not be tempted to hide is faith if captured by the ISIS.

Tellingly though granted not the be all end all of sources the Wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_inventions_in_the_medieval_Islamic_world doesn't list Algebra or Chemistry as was originally credited but that is a region of little interest to me save for areas where it overlaps the West and I have no been keeping up with the scholarship

My point still stands, given the correct circumstances the Middle East is more than capable of sustaining an fairly advanced civilization. Those circumstances do not exist at this time and given the toxicity of current Islam may not exist for a very long time.

“Once the numbers start growing though, at worst, you can expect massacres like the ones in Kenya to become as mundane as Tuesday over here and at best, those Muslims in America who remain Americanized are just going to do jack as the jack boots come stomping on your face and mine, though more so yours since I plan on getting armed as soon as I hit the legal age for carrying in my state.”

Well, if Muzzies are engaging in double-secret probation Jihad, and you know their secret, and you plan on carrying arms, then perhaps Charles Martel is in your future.

“1 - the slave holders were all Democrats”

CONSERVATIVE Democrats. You know, the ones that want to maintain the status quo, the ones that want to keep tradition.

“you know, back in 2006 Mark Steyn asserted the same thing about Europe and he was roundly castigated as racist and xenophobic.”

Because Europe has a longer standing history of pogroms and ethnic strife compared to America in the context Steyn wrote about.

“and you're a little faggot…”

Thanks, Roy Cohn.

“2 - Negro Africans built practically nothing of value themselves”

Yet, Europeans felt that what they did build ought to be in their possession.

“Christians, *NON-WHITE* Christians are being murdered and cleansed from homelands in North Africa and the Mid-East in which they have lived for 2000 thousand years.”

I’m sure that the Christians there rarely engaged in activities that did not warrant such a horrific response.

Greg, there is very little chance of disarming the US populace. Despite what Leftists think Hispanics at least here in California are gun crazy as are Blacks and while they vote Democrat for the spoils are not really gun control ideologues

A couple of state have trial laws, registration that kind of thing and the laws will not be obeyed at all. Non compliance is like 95% even places like Connecticut and we learned from other's like the UK's mistakes. Ammo is a possible target but a recent attempt to constrict the ammo supply caused huge amounts of push backs and was stopped for now

Heck the supply of domestic gun anyway.

Its possible I suppose that the USG could hire a lot of mercenaries or get the Chinese involved in some Red Dawn scenario but its unlikely any of those people want to put a hand in a bear trap and while Congress is pretty cored out with bad people, there are enough people at every level to make such things too difficult.

Also a measurable number of people in the US are spoiling for a fight and learning the tactics and tools they need for that fight well ahead of time so a direct attempt to disarm the populace is not going to be very easy.

The elite would have pass a law, find enough loyal troops to enforce it in a huge country with heavy resistance and fully imploded economy , hope that many states don't leave the union and have a bolt hole to hide in from 24-7 attempts to get them on treason charges . If that bolt hole is overseas, the host nation and them better be nuclear and pray the rebels don't get hold of the nukes either,

That said flooding the US with non Westerners in hopes of an electoral lock down or whatever is fully possible. I tend to think Vox is correct though ACW2 by the 2030's -- we almost went hot in the 1990's but the economy was far better than now , the US less Cultural Marxist and ironically demography (much Whiter) less favorable to getting the needed numbers.

Jack, you don't get to frame the discussion. I chose neighbors regardless of their background who are humble, law-abiding, and contribute to the community I live in.

You already framed it Bob, by making the assertion the Muzzies Christian neighbors engaged in activities that warrently a horrific response. I'm simply forcing you to deal with the frame you already set up.

So, which is it, Christians or Moslems? You're moving to a middle eastern city and have to choose which part of town to live in. What's it going to be?

Jack, I will repeat, you don't get to frame the discussion. Being a chess player, I know exactly how you are trying to trap me with your enticing move. My response to Bobby was merely rhetorical. If you want to make a big deal out of it, have at it.

Regardless, I'm not moving to any middle eastern city. I'm staying in my neck of the woods where Christians, Jews, AND Muslims live.

Being a chess player, I know exactly how you are trying to trap me with your enticing move.

Far too late, you already put your head in the noose claiming Christians had provoked the Muzzies. I made no "enticing" move, you did it to yourself. Now, if you wish to retract that statement...

Regardless, I'm not moving to any middle eastern city. I'm staying in my neck of the woods where Christians, Jews, AND Muslims live.

I would insist you answer the question, but you would simply lie if you weren't allowed to evade. So, since you claim to willingly live among Christians, we have to conclude you do not really think they are so horribly violent as you previously claimed. So your mendacity is plain to see, but you still won't back down from it, will you?

This is mostly OT, but last summer I had a near shoot-out with the Minot PD early one morning. Lets say that they had never met an `UNRECONSTRUCTIONED CONFEDFEDERATE` before. And I was only up to eat breakfast of cold h2o and oatmeal from my trunk when two elderly `Loonies` in an parked RV panicked and called 911. It wouldnt be my first time around with that sort. Maybe I`ll relate one of these days.

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