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Thanks. I disconnected the antenna off of the "emitter" and it still responds
to the static built up from combing my hair. I experimented with a 1m ohm
resistor and a 100 ohm resistor and it seems the 3k resistor responds best.
Should I leave the resistor? I tried twisting the gimmick tighter and even loosing
it but it didn't seem to do anything that I could tell. Thanks again for the
help. Never really worked with a circuit as quirky as this! I'll check out RS
to see if they carry the book you refer to.
In a message dated 12/31/2004 10:46:46 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
drallim@norlight.org writes:
Hi,
The low value resistor gives you solid DC control of pin #3, but
probably you have lost any sensitivity in the "emitter" antenna. Try
removing that antenna and see if the circuit still responds to hair
combing as before. You could try twisting the "gimmick" tighter or
looser instead of trimming it shorter. When you change the "bias"
control, you get near-instant change of voltage in Pin #3 circuit, but
the voltage changes on pin #2 have to "leak" through the "gimmick" to or
from pin #1. The only time that pin #1 sits at 0 volts is when the
voltages on pins #2, 3 are equal to each other. RS used to have small
booklets that gave basic skills with op-amps.
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Thanks. I disconnected the antenna off of the "emitter" and it still re=
sponds to the static built up from combing my hair. I experimented with a 1m=
ohm resistor and a 100 ohm resistor and it seems the 3k resistor responds b=
est. Should I leave the resistor? I tried twisting the gimmick tighter and e=
ven loosing it but it didn't seem to do anything that I could tell. Thanks a=
gain for the help. Never really worked with a circuit as quirky as this! &nb=
sp;I'll check out RS to see if they carry the book you refer to.

The low value resistor gives you so=
lid DC control of pin #3, but probably you have lost any sensitivity in=20=
the "emitter" antenna. Try removing that antenna and see if the circuit=20=
still responds to hair combing as before. You could try twisting the "gi=
mmick" tighter or looser instead of trimming it shorter. When you change=
the "bias" control, you get near-instant change of voltage in Pin #3 ci=
rcuit, but the voltage changes on pin #2 have to "leak" through the "gim=
mick" to or from pin #1. The only time that pin #1 sits at 0 volts is wh=
en the voltages on pins #2, 3 are equal to each other. RS used to have s=
mall booklets that gave basic skills with op-amps.

Randi has also challenged Beardens and Naudins claims on the MEG. =
(Search=20
Randi's site for "Bearden")

Proving the overunity output of the MEG and improvements =
from the=20
Bedini Scalar wave EM Clarifier should be easy scientifically verified =
are=20
they not?

I'd like to see Randi's Million dollar prize won in my =
lifetime.

Regards,

-Glenn

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Hi all,
Happy new year. My best wishes for all.
John,
>The only problem with the tests required by Randi et al is that they =
seem too rigorous, or require too much
>proof from the successful inventor. (even then I wonder if they'd be =
entirely satisfied!)=20
I don't think so.
It might be true for paranormal efects which can easily be denied but in =
our case you can messure the energy produced.
Even they claim that there is something wrong with it, you can show them =
that the machine runs without external power source.
Can they deny that?=20
They claim, and they are right, that noone ever build one such machine. =
Every machine that was allowed testing proved to have a hidden power =
source. The others just refused testing.=20
I am a sceptic. I like to think for my self. I don't bite everything =
that is thrown to me. That doesn't mean I refuse to accept some things.
I do believe that it is possible to create such a machine and in fact I =
am working on it as everybody else in this list.
But, I think the rules are fare enough.
>If I was successful in creating an OU device I would be too busy at the =
patent office, or at least trying to get
>my device mass-produced before I'd try to prove myself to the skeptics. =
That is my point exactly. Go for a patent. That won't convince them you =
are successful. Then apply for the tests and earn some money to start =
production.
If they don't believe you, tear the machine apart. Let them do it. Is =
this a problem? Besides your rights on it would already be secured by =
the patent office.
The only reason noone claims for the money is that noone has ever made =
it in my point of view.
The only draw back is that we can't be sure if Randi is true on paying =
or they just make a rumor to play with worlds mind and make them pay =
donations.
I was thinking, why should they ask for donations if they have =
"$1,000,000 in negotiable bonds held by an investment firm in New York" =
as they claim.
Sceptism might be a very profitable job to do if you know what I mean.
I told you I am a sceptic :-)=20
LOL!!!!!!
>(Though it would be great to see the skeptics eat their words and pay =
their prize money in my lifetime).
that makes two of us.
Are there any other known challenges for us?
I tried to find some info on google but no luck till now.
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Hi all,

Happy new year. My best wishes for all.

John,

>The only problem with the tests =
required=20
by Randi et al is that they seem too rigorous, or require too =
much

>proof from the successful =
inventor. (even=20
then I wonder if they'd be entirely satisfied!)

I don't think so.

It might be true for paranormal efects which can easily be denied =
but in=20
our case you can messure the energy produced.

Even they claim that there is something wrong with it, you can show =
them=20
that the machine runs without external power source.

Can they deny that?

They claim, and they are right, that noone ever build one such =
machine.=20
Every machine that was allowed testing proved to have a hidden power =
source. The=20
others just refused testing.

I am a sceptic. I like to think for my self. I don't bite =
everything that=20
is thrown to me. That doesn't mean I refuse to accept some things.

I do believe that it is possible to create such a machine and in =
fact I am=20
working on it as everybody else in this list.

But, I think the rules are fare enough.

>If I was successful in creating =
an OU=20
device I would be too busy at the =
patent=20
office, or at least trying to get

That is my point exactly. Go for a patent. That won't convince them =
you are=20
successful. Then apply for the tests and earn some money to start=20
production.

If they don't believe you, tear the machine apart. Let them do it. =
Is this=20
a problem? Besides your rights on it would already be secured by the =
patent=20
office.

The only reason noone claims for the money is that noone has ever =
made it=20
in my point of view.

The only draw back is that we can't be sure if Randi is true on =
paying or=20
they just make a rumor to play with worlds mind and make them pay=20
donations.

I was thinking, why should they ask for donations if they have =
"$1,000,000 =20
in negotiable bonds held by an investment firm in New York" as they =
claim.

Sceptism might be a very profitable job to do if you know what I=20
mean.

I told you I am a sceptic :-)

LOL!!!!!!

>(Though it would be great to see the skeptics eat their words and pay =
their prize=20
money in my lifetime).

that makes two of us.

Are there any other known challenges for us?

I tried to find some info on google but no luck till now.

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I did read at one time that the patent office is bodied by certain "self
interest" groups, among which are the oil companys and the navy. Any
patent application that any one of them disagrees with can be blocked as
a matter of National Security, and this seems to apply to foreign
patents as well.
It was discovered so when one patent was eventually released (in the
1980s) and the owner of the patent revealed the extent of the pressure
he was under. He was forced to reveal every person who had knowledge of
his invention, domestic and foreign, and sworn not to speak of the
invention under threat of 20 years imprisonment.
Given that Charles Pogue, after selling out his vapor carb idea would
not so much as mention it, or even agree that he had patented it, this
situation appears to be valid..
Free energy does exist and is being used within the universe. It is
known and it has I believe recently been duplicated (crudely) by the
Black Ops folks, from captured off world technology.
The thing about it is that the power can only be profitable if
transmitted along our present grid, and without letting it be known what
the power source is.
Such may well be the only way to do it yourself. Power your home, but
don't tell anyone you've disconnected from the grid. Power your electric
car but put a plug on it and carry fake batterys so no-one knows its
self powered.
The only profit can come from the manufacture of the device, and until
that can be done and the things can be sold openly, You are the sole
experimenter, or you are silenced.
cara
G N wrote:
> Hi all,Happy new year. My best wishes for all. John, >The only problem
> with the tests required by Randi et al is that they seem too rigorous,
> or require too much>proof from the successful inventor. (even then I
> wonder if they'd be entirely satisfied!) I don't think so.It might be
> true for paranormal efects which can easily be denied but in our case
> you can messure the energy produced.Even they claim that there is
> something wrong with it, you can show them that the machine runs
> without external power source.Can they deny that?They claim, and they
> are right, that noone ever build one such machine. Every machine that
> was allowed testing proved to have a hidden power source. The others
> just refused testing.I am a sceptic. I like to think for my self. I
> don't bite everything that is thrown to me. That doesn't mean I refuse
> to accept some things.I do believe that it is possible to create such
> a machine and in fact I am working on it as everybody else in this
> list.But, I think the rules are fare enough. >If I was successful in
> creating an OU device I would be too busy at the patent office, or at
> least trying to get>my device mass-produced before I'd try to prove
> myself to the skeptics. That is my point exactly. Go for a patent.
> That won't convince them you are successful. Then apply for the tests
> and earn some money to start production.If they don't believe you,
> tear the machine apart. Let them do it. Is this a problem? Besides
> your rights on it would already be secured by the patent office. The
> only reason noone claims for the money is that noone has ever made it
> in my point of view. The only draw back is that we can't be sure if
> Randi is true on paying or they just make a rumor to play with worlds
> mind and make them pay donations.I was thinking, why should they ask
> for donations if they have "$1,000,000 in negotiable bonds held by an
> investment firm in New York" as they claim.Sceptism might be a very
> profitable job to do if you know what I mean. I told you I am a
> sceptic :-)LOL!!!!!! >(Though it would be great to see the skeptics
> eat their words and pay their prize money in my lifetime). that makes
> two of us. Are there any other known challenges for us?I tried to
> find some info on google but no luck till now.
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I did read at one time that the patent office is bodied by certain "self
interest" groups, among which are the oil companys and the navy. Any patent
application that any one of them disagrees with can be blocked as a matter
of National Security, and this seems to apply to foreign patents as well.
It was discovered so when one patent was eventually released (in the
1980s) and the owner of the patent revealed the extent of the pressure
he was under. He was forced to reveal every person who had knowledge of
his invention, domestic and foreign, and sworn not to speak of the invention
under threat of 20 years imprisonment.
Given that Charles Pogue, after selling out his vapor carb idea would
not so much as mention it, or even agree that he had patented it,
this situation appears to be valid..
Free energy does exist and is being used within the universe. It is
known and it has I believe recently been duplicated (crudely) by the Black
Ops folks, from captured off world technology.
The thing about it is that the power can only be profitable if transmitted
along our present grid, and without letting it be known what the power
source is.
Such may well be the only way to do it yourself. Power your home, but
don't tell anyone you've disconnected from the grid. Power your electric
car but put a plug on it and carry fake batterys so no-one knows its self
powered.
The only profit can come from the manufacture of the device, and until
that can be done and the things can be sold openly, You are the sole experimenter,
or you are silenced.
cara

G N wrote:

Hi all,Happy new year. My best wishes
for all. John, >The only problem
with the tests required by Randi et al is that they seem too rigorous,
or require too much>proof from the
successful inventor. (even then I wonder if they'd be entirely satisfied!) I
don't think so.It might be true for paranormal efects which can easily
be denied but in our case you can messure the energy produced.Even they
claim that there is something wrong with it, you can show them that the
machine runs without external power source.Can they deny that?They claim,
and they are right, that noone ever build one such machine. Every machine
that was allowed testing proved to have a hidden power source. The others
just refused testing.I am a sceptic. I like to think for my self. I don't
bite everything that is thrown to me. That doesn't mean I refuse to accept
some things.I do believe that it is possible to create such a machine and
in fact I am working on it as everybody else in this list.But, I think
the rules are fare enough. >If
I was successful in creating an OU device I would be too busy at the patent
office, or at least trying to get>my
device mass-produced before I'd try to prove myself to the skeptics. That
is my point exactly. Go for a patent. That won't convince them you are
successful. Then apply for the tests and earn some money to start production.If
they don't believe you, tear the machine apart. Let them do it. Is this
a problem? Besides your rights on it would already be secured by the patent
office. The only reason noone claims for the money is that noone has
ever made it in my point of view. The only draw back is that we can't
be sure if Randi is true on paying or they just make a rumor to play with
worlds mind and make them pay donations.I was thinking, why should they
ask for donations if they have "$1,000,000 in negotiable bonds held by
an investment firm in New York" as they claim.Sceptism might be a very
profitable job to do if you know what I mean. I told you I am a sceptic
:-)LOL!!!!!! >(Though it would be great
to see the skeptics eat their words and pay their prize money in my lifetime). that
makes two of us. Are there any other known challenges for us?I
tried to find some info on google but no luck till now.

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> The thing about it is that the power can only be profitable if
> transmitted along our present grid, and without letting it be known what
> the power source is.
The general population does not care, nor will they pop for the money
to put in the equipment in most cases. For example you live in an apartment
in New York City.
I'm speaking as some what of an insider, to put food on my table in the past I
worked in the coal mining industry.
Coal feeds power generation plants.
I have spent time with the people from the biggest coal companies and
equipment manufacturers. They could care less about what new technologies
might put them out of business in the future. They know its there, I have
shown it to them. They are to busy worrying about the stock price for that
quarter to care. So much for the conspiracy angle. I don't see it being any
different in 'big oil'.
Think about it this way: An electrical power plant using Natural Gas or Coal
has to pay for those fuel sources. If they could buy a Mr. Fusion device to
replace the money spent on the fuel stock they would jump at the opportunity.
As to measuring things the US Navy has released a 12 years study/400+ page
report in *SUPPORT* of Cold Fusion. You can read it on
http://www.unusualresearch.com/ . The second Cold Fusion report there
gives details of how to do energy measurements *CORRECTLY*.
The first red flag is "my scope shows...", next red flag is "my $1.99 volt
meter shows...". A calorimeter is the right way, or build something based
on heat like the Linear Tech LT1088. Perhaps a LaCroy power meter.
--
http://www.softwaresafety.net/
http://www.unusualresearch.com/ http://www.bpaddock.com/
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--- G N wrote:
> The only draw back is that we can't be sure if Randi is true on paying
> or they just make a rumor to play with worlds mind and make them pay
> donations.
> I was thinking, why should they ask for donations if they have
> "$1,000,000 in negotiable bonds held by an investment firm in New
> York" as they claim.
> Sceptism might be a very profitable job to do if you know what I mean.
Reality $check$ A million bucks is not alot of money. Negotiable bonds
yeild poorly as the purpose of them is to be fluid (negotiable because
yall gots to have it right now).
Here is an example. Lets say that $1,000,000 yeilds 1.8% (high for a
N-bond right now) thats $18,000 anual growth. If you pay a web-geek
$45.000 a year with benifits to maintain the site (very low pay for the
talent) it will cost you about $60,000 after insurance, 401K and all.
This leaves you 42K in the toilet annually.
So who's paying the rent, light bill and hosting fee?
Doners!
Now here is the other aspect of the money. I say again a million bucks
is not alot of money. Try fireing up a manufacturing business on that.
That is after a location (quarter mill) Tooling and insurance (quarter
mill) office needs (100K) You have enough left to support 3 to 5
employees for about a year. Then its time to buy materials.
Boy that million went fast, and once your product hits the market you
must consider product liability insurance... I mean the thing is a
generator right? Someone could get hurt.
The other way to get started is the DITY method (Do IT Yourself) in which
case a million bucks is a sweet beginning. Lets see... You build one for
demonstration purposes... bla de bla de bla ... 5 years has passed. You
are devorced, out of money and raising an illigitimate grandchild. You
ahve aged 20 years for your efforts but have a company that intermitently
is turning a small profit. You have to lay off two machienests (with
kids) to support your CEO this year but because of the million the
company has lasted 5 years instead of 5 months and looks like it may
survive.
Get the picture?
I don't blame John for being skeptical aobut Randi. There is no payment
history after all. But honestly does the thing work? I have been
watching since 95' and havent seen one production unit yet. Folks it
makes no differance which side of the fence you are on. Its not about
the money. The challenge is there to take if you want it bad enough.
Fiber Composits put a comercially built space craft into space last year
because of a challenge. It was the chalenge and Burt's Dreem, not the
money. They made it work.
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--- Bob Paddock wrote:
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> > The thing about it is that the power can only be profitable if
> > transmitted along our present grid, and without letting it be known
> what
> > the power source is.
>
> The general population does not care, nor will they pop for the money
> to put in the equipment in most cases. For example you live in an
> apartment
> in New York City.
Hear hear! There are about a hundred homes in my negborhood. Maybe five
of us geve a #$%& about the source. As bob says 1 quarter profet margens
and stock prices power the industry. Unlike the chalenge and the dream
day to day business really is about the money.
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I wonder what the largest Crookes Radiometer has ever been made.
How many watts could be generated if one would succesively link 500-1000
Crookes Black/White wheels to a thin driveshaft inside a large vaccum.
Enough to turn some magnets and trickle charge a battery I would imagine.
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Wasn't there a movie a while back that had a desert planet's=20
electricity being provided by radiometer generators? I'd think that if=20=
it could be done on earth it would have been by now.
Perhaps it'd be practical in space where there is already a very large=20=
vacuum and there is a lot more radiation. They could be made from=20
inexpensive and light plastics instead of fragile and relatively heavy=20=
glass for cheap and simple (maybe automatic) deployment.
I'd certainly spend some time playing with radiometers and generators=20
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Wasn't there a movie a while back that had a desert planet's
electricity being provided by radiometer generators? I'd think that if
it could be done on earth it would have been by now.=20
Perhaps it'd be practical in space where there is already a very large
vacuum and there is a lot more radiation. They could be made from
inexpensive and light plastics instead of fragile and relatively heavy
glass for cheap and simple (maybe automatic) deployment.=20
I'd certainly spend some time playing with radiometers and generators
if I had the capacity to produce a decent vacuum, you never know what
you might discover.
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Hey,
Yes indeed there was such a movie, it was called "Pitch Black" and was actually pretty good considering it had a small budget and the fact that Vin Diesel was in it!
Take Care,
Ed
Sayyad Glassford wrote:
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electricity being provided by radiometer generators?
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Yes indeed there was such a movie, it was called "Pitch Black" and was actually pretty good considering it had a small budget and the fact that Vin Diesel was in it!

Take Care,

Ed

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Freenrg,
A bit better in the light of some comments now.
http://luna.brighton.ac.uk/~roc1/index.htm
Just follow links.
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Damien's Machine
By Mike Johnston
Copyright 2005
Intriguing title, isn't it? You know where it comes from, right? If
not let me refresh your memory; in the book/movie The Omen 3, Damien
Thorn (the Antichrist) develops a new source of free energy which is
assumed to be for the purpose of leading the uneducated and morally
bankrupt masses of the world into damnation. Not really a ringing
endorsement of alternative energy is it? I guess that is why the
movie annoyed me when it came out (70's?). I suppose that "inevitable
doom" interpretation of the book of Revelation means that God wants
us to go on using fossil fuels until they either run out or we all
die from the consequences of using them. Or maybe it assumes that we
must, to fulfill Divine design, start building more nuclear power
plants. After all, the goal of good folk everywhere should be to
destroy the world that we all know and love in order to open the
pathway for the triumphal return of Jesus Christ shouldn't it?
But what about the Thorn Industries device itself? I don't think that
the movie really went into describing how it was supposed to work but I
do remember what it looked like. It was a low, factory type building
which was situated right along the seashore. It had a large, metal ball
above it which was supported by a cylindrical tower, sort of like a
huge Van De Graff generator. It didn't mean anything to me at the time
and still is only a fictional product of the writer's or filmmaker's
imagination but the image stuck with me. As I describe my line of
reasoning in this story you will see why the memory of that Satanic
power plant resurfaced in my mind as I considered various ways to
produce hydrogen from water in more efficient ways and how that plant
might be adapted to become one possible incarnation of the particular
method that I am going to describe for you here (besides it made a
great title).
First off let's have a look at the fictional power source and see if we
can identify the key components which would be involved in it's
operation as best we can from the above description. There is the Van
De Graff ball above the plant, that could be taken to represent a high
voltage power supply. Or if you wanted to be a bit more specific you
could say a high voltage, electrostatic power source. Next is the
proximity of the plant to water, the ocean. From that we could surmise
that water is another component of this (hypothetical) free power
source. Since the ocean is salty (NaCl is an electrolyte), we might
also assume that water with an electrolyte is a major component. From
those two ingredients we could make some fairly realistic projections
about how the system might have been able to work. Obviously using
electricity and water with an electrolyte we can produce hydrogen fuel
and so perhaps hydrogen was the intended result of this system? But it
takes energy to produce hydrogen from water so how could this be a
"free" energy system? On the other hand it takes more energy to turn a
windmill than is produced by the generator that is attached to it and
so how could that provide usable energy? Simple, it just depends on
where you get your primary energy from. If you can find a source of
energy which already exists in the environment (such as wind) then use
that energy to generate electricity (as in the case of a windmill) or
to split water and store the resulting hydrogen gas for later use then
such a system becomes quite viable.
Next we should have a look at our planet and see if we can identify
such a source of energy. I will outline two here that aren't being
discussed too much in the mainstream press (or anywhere else for that
matter). There are other embodiments of these sources but I won't go
into those yet as I may want to try to make a buck or two off one of
them. The Earth is part of a larger system and the energy of this
system is supplied (by and large) by the Sun. The charged particles
leaving the sun and radiating out into space are called the Solar Wind.
As these particles hit the upper atmosphere they cause this part of the
atmosphere to become electrically charged and to form a plasma. This is
the plasmasphere. As a result of this charging by the sun the
plasmasphere has a certain electrical potential (charge). Way down
below on the ground there is a different potential (charge). Between
these two plates is the dielectric, the air. Of course there is water
vapor in the air as well as the air itself being made of several
different gasses so it is a mixed dielectric. So the difference in
charge between these two points could be called a potential difference
or voltage. In essence then the Earth is acting as a huge, spherical
capacitor
(http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~vawter/PhysicsNet/Topics/Capacitors/EarthCap.html).
Those of us who live here on the ground are living on one plate of a
fully charged electrical capacitor. Think about that, we live in a sea
of invisible energy and we don't even realize it.
I would like to inject here two points for your consideration which are
not really related to the main topic of this article but are still
worth thinking about. One is that, since the Earth is a capacitor and
the air between the ground and the plasmasphere is the dielectric of
this capacitor it is interesting to think about what might be the
effects of any substantial changes in the composition of the
dielectric. All dielectric substances have different levels of
permeability. This determines how much of a potential difference is
required to cause dielectric breakdown (when electric current is able
to pass through the dielectric). If the air dielectric was to break
down, for example, it might permit electrical current to flow directly
between the Plasmasphere and the surface of the planet. Sort of like
huge bolts of lightning of a type never before seen. I thought it was
an interesting concept.
Following that train of thought one has to think about how the
atmosphere has been changed recently. We have seen the addition of many
new substances to the atmosphere. Chloroflurocarbons were the first one
that we decided could bring about substantial changes to a vital part
of out atmosphere (the Ozone Layer). Now we are looking at Carbon
Dioxide as the next pollutant which is present in large enough
concentrations to change the composition of the atmosphere in general
with rather negative consequences for life forms who a) breathe oxygen
and b) like to live in somewhat moderate temperatures. What about water
though? Burning fossil fuels creates water where no water existed
before. It also takes oxygen out of the atmosphere and bonds it into
this water that it creates as well as into CO2 gas that it also creates
(CH4 +2O2 ----> CO2 + 2H2O). So the Earth has more water and free
carbon dioxide today than it did 200 years ago and less oxygen due to
the use of fossil fuels. Much of this water is injected directly into
the atmosphere as steam from auto exhaust and jet aircraft exhaust. A
recent study discovered water higher in the atmosphere than it was ever
detected before (at the quantities measured).
If this atmospheric water was pure H2O it would be just one more
addition to the atmospheric dielectric but it isn't pure. Another
pollutant created by burning fossil fuels is Sulfur Dioxide (SO2)
which, when mixed with water, becomes Sulfuric Acid (H2SO4). So much of
this new atmospheric water is acidulated by sulfuric acid. The most
well known evidence of this is the acid rain which has been a problem
for some time now. But another, less well known/discussed effect is
that, by mixing a substance like sulfuric acid (which is an
electrolyte) with water the resulting solution is no longer a
dielectric, it becomes an electrical conductor. A very different
situation indeed when you consider that by putting an electrical
conductor higher and in greater concentrations in the insulating
atmosphere than it has ever been before we are effectively decreasing
the distance between the Plasmasphere plate of our planetary capacitor
and the Ground plate. The closer two plates of a capacitor are the less
dielectric that is between them and the less voltage that is required
to cause dielectric breakdown and for current to flow directly between
the two plates. What are the implications? I am not sure. As best as I
can tell from asking a couple of climate change researchers no one is
looking at these particular things in this way. I guess we will just
have to wait and see.
Back to my main topic though. We are living on one plate of a capacitor
and we would like to find a way to use the energy of the capacitor that
we live on to separate water and store the resulting H2 as a fuel. Ok,
seems simple enough. What we need first is a way to collect this
planetary energy and to direct it to flow between our point of
collection and another point of lower electrical potential. In this
pathway between these two points of different potential we will install
our hydrogen producing mechanism so that current flows though it. What
if we were to create a "capacitor within a capacitor"? Have a look at
these pages before you read further as I will utilize concepts
presented in them in this paper:
(1) http://amasci.com/tesla/spark.html
(2) http://www.amasci.com/amateur/whygnd.html
These pages contain a good explanation of planetary electrical energy
by Bill Beatty, an electrical engineer and acquaintance of mine. In the
second paper referenced above in the 2nd through 5th paragraphs is a
nice encapsulation of the framework for the first device proposed.
Illustration:
( http://www.geocities.com/mj_17870/damien1.JPG )
The illustration I prepared is rather simple and without doubt could
probably use a lot of work to make it something viable but we have to
start somewhere, don't we? At any rate, in it you see a wire which
serves as the other capacitor plate (the ground being the first). This
Capacitive Antenna is mounted on wooden poles 30' high and the antenna
is 200' long. At that height we should be able to get several hundred
volts of charge built up on the wire. That wire then runs to an
electrolysis cell and from there to a ground stake. That way any
charge that builds up on the wire will have to drain through our
electrolysis cell to get to the ground. Of course while it passes
through the electrolysis cell the current will produce H2 and O2 gas
from the water.
Electrolysis cells require a certain minimum voltage to operate,
depending on the electrolyte used (usually 2 volts or less) and until
this minimum voltage build up on the wire the cell will act like a
capacitor itself. Once sufficient charge builds up the cell will act as
a conductor and drain away the excess charge. An engineer might make
many beneficial modifications to such a system. Such modifications
might include using the antenna wire as a high voltage source and
pulsing the DC charge by installing an oscillator or some such
electronic component and then use a transformer to convert the high
voltage low current of the antenna to low voltage high current on it's
secondary as the current level not the voltage is what determines how
much H2 is produced in an electrolysis cell. That is probably the
simplest free hydrogen system that I can show you and it is a working
embodiment of the Damien device from the movie. Cool, ain't it?
Another way to produce a more or less permanent voltage from naturally
occurring conditions on the Earth, still using the ocean as a critical
component, would be to use the ocean itself. You see the salinity of
the water in the ocean is not at a constant level throughout. In deeper
water there is a higher concentration of salt than there is in shallow
water or in bays where a lot of fresh water is entering the ocean and
diluting it's salinity. Why is this important? As I pointed out earlier
salt is an electrolyte. This means that when it is placed in water salt
splits into electrically charged pieces (ions) NaCL ----> Na+ + Cl- .
The PH value of a solution which is familiar in that it shows whether a
solution is acid or basic can also be used to determine the electrical
charge of such a solution. The more ions present the higher the charge.
If the negative ion has the higher charge the solution is acidic and if
the positive ion has the higher charge it is positively charged. One
can say that is all well and good but because there are an equal number
of positive and negative ions in a solution then the solution overall
is electrically neutral. You would be correct BUT if you compare two
different containers of water with different concentrations of the same
electrolyte in them (such as salt), even though both solutions are
electrically neutral on an individual basis, one container has a
significantly higher number of charged particles overall and because of
this there is a measurable potential difference between those two
containers or between different concentrations of salt at different
depths in the ocean.
This charge would probably be somewhat static though and some method of
oscillating the charge between two or more plates of some inert metal
(one at each depth desired) would probably be needed in order to make
use of this permanent charge to separate water and produce H2 fuel.
That isn't the point though, the point is that there are MANY sources
of free electrical energy available to us naturally in the environment
around us which could potentially be utilized to produce hydrogen fuel
from water for us to use. H2 from water is a totally non-polluting
energy source and it doesn't rob oxygen from the environment either or
release CO2 or any other pollutant into the environment. Just based on
that isn't H2 from water the fuel that we should be putting all our
research efforts into?
As I promised in the last H2 News I have tried to put together here a
somewhat persuasive argument for the viability of two methods to
produce free H2 from water. Hopefully the somewhat novel way of doing
it (using Damien's Machine as an example) was at least slightly
amusing. These methods are very simple to understand with no moving
parts to wear out and would, if indeed they are possible, do wonders
for the implementation of the Hydrogen Economy. Imagine that, no more
buying heating oil for your home or gas for your car! No more
pollution! And it is possible NOW, not in 20 years. As long as the
Earth is here this will work because it uses the free energy that is
provided by the planet itself. I love science.
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(4) Guantanamo military base to be powered partly by wind
http://grist.org/cgi-bin/forward.pl?forward_id=4037
(5) SAE India developing hydrogen vehicle
SAE India is working on a proposal to launch a hydrogen powered
vehicle by 2008. The chairman of ...
http://www.awknowledge.com/AEM/content.asp?contentid=32888
(6) USDA Publishes Rules for Federal Purchasing of Bioproducts
http://www.usda.gov/2005/01/0005.xml
(Want to sell your fryer grease to the Feds? Here's how. Ed.)
(7) FIRM to oversee hydrogen-power buses for the city
Imagine the vehicle of the future, equipped with a
hydrogen-fuel-cell-based engine and wireless Internet access for
professionals on the go. ...
http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=27746
(But we can't get fuel cells for our houses or our vehicles? Hint: a
fuel cell big enough to power a bus would easily power your house.
ED.)
(8) GREEN hydrogen buses are a 'hit'
He said that the trials were a "positive indication that hydrogen
fuel cells could offer an alternative to diesel in the future". ...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4173535.stm
(Hydrogen houses would begood too. You could use solar or wind to
produce your H2 and.... Nevermind. ED.)
(9) ALTERNATIVE-FUEL vehicles star, but wide use is miles away
"It's not an especially expensive or energy-intensive process. ...and
storage costs would make hydrogen, very roughly ... as expensive as
gasoline, but fuel cells
are ...
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2005-01-11-auto-show_x.htm
( And anything that burns gasoline can burn H2 with a few relatively
easy modifications. Of course H2 fueled BUSSES are affordable but not
cars, oh no, not cars. Not
for YOU anyway! hahahahaha ED.)
(10) Student's Wave Energy Invention Wins National Award
His invention was the "Gyro-Gen," a gyroscope that converts ocean
wave energy into electricity. The spinning gyroscope, mounted in a
buoy, resists the
movement of the waves by exerting torque on a crank, which turns an
electric generator.
http://www.siemens-foundation.org/2004/2004-05%20National%20Winners%20Release%20FINAL.pdf
(11) ONTARIO set to boost fuel cell development
The program could also help Ontario's automotive, manufacturing and
petrochemical sectors stay competitive in the hydrogen economy,
should it ever emerge.
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1105656610692&call_pageid=970599119419
(12) GM: Hydrogen fuel cells clearly industry's driving force
Electric-gasoline hybrid vehicles and hydrogen fuel cell vehicles
that emit only water vapor are the future, Larry Burns, GM's vice
president of research and ...
http://www.lsj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050113/NEWS03/501130347/1001/news
(13) FORD receives new hydrogen systems from Dynetek
Ford's new E-450 shuttle bus will be fitted with Dynetek's hydrogen
fuel storage systems.
http://www.awknowledge.com/ACA/content.asp?contentid=32857
(14) HONDA fuel-cell cars to be available in US
If you're waiting to get your hands on one of Honda's zero-emission
hydrogen fuel-cell cars, this may be your year.
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000913027221/
( Wait, I thought these wouldn't be available for years? Hmmmm,
something fishy here. All you need is a solar electrolyzer and you
will never buy gas again. ED.)
(15) ENCAPSULATION of Molecular Hydrogen in Fullerene C 60 by Organic ...
This process can be used to synthesize a fullerene C 60
encapsulating molecular hydrogen, which can be isolated as a pure
product. ...
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/307/5707/238
(16) NANOMIX Receives Additional US Patent in Alternative Energy ...
The system employs a combination of thermal insulation and an
enclosure for the storage and controlled distribution of hydrogen
as a high-energy fuel. ...
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050113/sfth030_1.html
(17) INDUSTRY split over future of hybrid cars
Split this week over which fuel efficient, lower emission, engines
will prove to be the wave of the future - hybrid, clean diesel or
hydrogen fuel cell. ...
http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage1849.html
(18) WATER, WATER EVERYWH ... HEY, WHERE'D THE WATER GO?
Agriculture needs to start conserving water, badly
http://grist.org/cgi-bin/forward.pl?forward_id=3989
( Damn, now water will cost as much as gasoline. Guess I will be
buying my water from EXXON soon. ED.)
(19) CALIFORNIA'S Hydrogen Future: A Senate Briefing
Transportation Studies will brief US senators and staffers on the
future of fuel cell vehicles and California's pioneering efforts to
build a hydrogen economy. ...
http://www.news.ucdavis.edu/search/news_detail.lasso?id=7250
(20) Home-Made Biofuels Are Best - UK Green Groups
http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/29052/story.htm
(21) WAY cleared for start of hydrogen pipeline
A proposed 12-inch hydrogen gas pipeline in Lucas County (Ohio)
received approval yesterday from the Ohio Power Siting Board,
clearing the way for ...
http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050111/BUSINESS06/501110413
( Distributing the H2 for those fuel cell buses that aren't at all
like the fuel cell cars you can't buy yet, unless you buy them from
Honda. ED.)
(22) Green Energy Resources Shareholder Update for 2004-2005
http://www.enn.com/press.html?id=69
(23) UK Hydrogen Energy Strategic Framework -- Analysis (December 2004 ...)
The key message from the analysis is that for the UK, the use of
hydrogen as a transport fuel offers significant opportunities for
cost-competitive CO2 ...
http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage1825.html
(24) HOW high oil prices can be green
Sustained oil prices are also driving the development of the next
generation of vehicle engine, the hydrogen fuel cell.
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=17853&cat_id=9
( As well as record profits for the oil companies. I could also
tell you why it is good for the profitability of a company to keep
the wages of workers like you as low as is
possible and to eliminate such frivolous perks as health insurance
and pensions. You understand that right? It is good for the overall
economy for you and millions of
others like you to live in poverty. That is simply the truth. The
more a company can lower it's costs the more profitable it is and
the more profitable it is the more money
it can spend on $100,000 wedding gowns and $40,000,000 coronation
parties. Thanks America, now get back to work, Daddy needs a new
Lamborghini. ED.)
(25) STARK has what it takes
It would rely on nonpolluting "clean-coal" technology to extract
hydrogen from coal and use the hydrogen to make electricity in fuel
cells or gas turbines. ...
http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?Category=3&ID=202195&r=0
(Remember friends, in "Clean Coal" technologies most or all of the
H2 produced comes from the water used, NOT the Coal. ED.)
(26) White House, Pentagon, Industry Secretly Colluded To Skew National
Academy Of Sciences Perchlorate Report, Documents Show
http://www.enn.com/aff.html?id=314
(Is this a surprise? It's ok though Republicans can do no
wrong.Wait till you guys retire and get your first Social Security
check. hehehehehe ED.)
(27) HYBRIDS and hydrogen rule
The most dramatic fuel-cell news, visually at least, comes from GM,
which has rolled out a crossover concept called Sequel, powered by
a hydrogen fuel cell. ...
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1105614487714&call_pageid=970599119419
(28) Rising Seas Threaten Islands, Cities, Coasts
It sounds insignificant alongside the Indian Ocean tsunami, yet an
almost imperceptible annual rise in the world's oceans may pose a
huge threat to ports, coasts
and islands by 2100.
http://www.enn.com/today.html?id=6908
( Luckily though there is no such thing as global warming/climate
change. "W" says so and we all know what a genius he is.ED.)
(29) JAPAN proposes huge cuts in emissions
By 2100, most energy consumption will be met by renewable energy
sources such as nuclear power, hydrogen energy and solar energy.
...
http://www.menafn.com/qn_news_story.asp?StoryId=CqEsU0eidAMfWyw4Tzw5LCMD5Cg9SAwn5
(30) Toyota Europe Aims to Sell 20,000 Prius Hybrids in Europe
http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/29066/story.htm
( No doubt they will too. Europeans are just such damn tree
huggers, aren't they? Just remember Europe, the jet stream flows
west to east.ED.)
(31) Powerful Storm Kills Three in Britain
http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/28970/story.htm
(32) Sustainability must be in hearts and minds of government
Sustainability urgently needs to be put at the heart of all
government policies, a report by the Sustainable Development
Commission (SDC) has stated.
http://www.edie.net/news/news_story.asp?id=9401&channel=1
(33) Top global scientific minds meet to study climate change
Top scientists from the UK and Japan have joined forces to create a
super-technology for predicting climate change in the 21st Century.
http://www.edie.net/news/news_story.asp?id=9389&channel=6
(34) Canadian Researcher Invents New Solar Cell
http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/28991/story.htm
(35) Fossil Fuel Curbs May Speed Global Warming
http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/28964/story.htm
(36) Spain's Gamesa to Build Wind Power Plant in US
http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/29068/story.htm
( At least somebody is. ED.)
(37) The Changing Arctic: Indigenous Perspectives
http://www.enn.com/aff.html?id=318
( Get it? Keyword: Changing. THe Earth today is not like it was
within human memory. Period. The government can only pull their
Ostrich act for so long. ED.)
(38) Svalbard's Marine Mammals in a Warmer, Wetter, Wilder Arctic
http://www.enn.com/aff.html?id=321
( No climate change, no climate change, no climate change....is it
gone yet? ED.)
(39) Free Sustainable Transport Advice for SMEs
TransportEnergy BestPractice introduces new training CD-Rom for
business advisers and trainers
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(40) Warm Russian Winter Drives Bears Out of Bed
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( Bad bears! Back to hibernation! There is NO GLOBAL WARMING!!!!
Please, someone, shoot those damn bears and hide the carcasses, ALL
IS WELL! ED.)
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The Hydrogen News # 28
In this issue:
Story #2 National Security to Lead Renewable Energy Deployment
Story # 16 Experts: Global Warming Is Real
Story # 22 Horrors of Global Warming Highlighted
Story # 25 Global Warming Bill Means Thousands of New Jobs
Story # 31 It's much too late to sweat global warming, Time to prepare for
inevitable effects of our ill-fated future
My story on water based transistors
Story from guest writer Eric Kreig of phact.org
Lots of other Climate Change stories
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The Future Is Now
To say that the hold that human civilization has on this planet is a
fragile and tenuous one seems untrue in these days of talk of life
extention to one thousand years or more and unlimited capitalist
expansion and growth through globalization. Yet in this past year,
with the Tsunami, we have seen just how fast that natural conditions
on the Earth can align themselves together to bring about a scale of
human destruction so profound as to be nearly indescribable and yet
at the same time spare the lives of most of the animals and plants of
the area. At the same time we have read stories about Climate Change
and how grass is growing in Antarctica, Russian bears who can't
sleep, fish and animal species that are moving into areas where they
never lived before to take advantage of new temperatures and seen the
damage caused by the melting of the Permafrost in the Arctic. With
the recent passing of the Kyoto Treaty there is now a glut of climate
change stories in the news and this issue will be filled with many of
those links. Stories with such attention grabbing titles as ;"A
Glimpse of Hell", "Global Warming is Real"and "Food Scarcity
Predicted" are just the tip of the iceberg. With those stories in
mind, after stocking up on shotgun shells and bottled water, I
remembered the words to a song by Bob Seger and I think you will
agree that the lyrics to that song are sort of prescient in regard to
this issue.
In Your Time
By Bob Seger
In your time the innocence will fall away
In your time the mission bells will toll
All along the corridors and riverbeds
They'll be signs.....In your time
Towering waves will crash across your southern capes
massive storms will reach your eastern shores
Fields of green will tumble through your summer days,
by design, In your time
Feel the wind and set yourself the bolder course
Keep your heart as open as a shrine
You'll sail the perfect line
and after all the dead ends and the lessons learned
after all the stars have turned to stone
There'll be peace,..... across the great unbroken void
all benign.......in your time
You'll be fine,.... in your time.
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Here is the article by guest writer Eric Kreig:
Pseudo-Science claims about Hydrogen
By Eric the skeptic
For every real area of science is a whole underworld of falsehood.
Particularly with cutting edge science and particularly on the internet, one
can find a wealth of exciting – yet WRONG claims. Such
misinformation is
spawned by a triumvirate of self-taught idiots, wide-eyed lunatics and by
con men.
For any advocate of a hydrogen future comes the unfortunate public
service responsibility of debunking myths about hydrogen. One of the most
pernicious hydrogen urban legends is that of "Browns Gas". Don't snicker. It
is only a stoichemetrc ratio of hydrogen and oxygen – it was known
of long
before a nut named Yull Brown claimed to invent it. I provide a web page on
information and misinformation on the subject at
HYPERLINK "http://www.phact.org/e/bgas.htm"www.phact.org/e/bgas.htm
For sake of space a quick summary of false claims about it include:
* It can heal sickness.
* It can render radioactive materials safe.
* You can get more energy out of burning it than it takes to
separate it.
* It implodes rather than explodes and is perfectly safe.
* You can safely pressurize it.
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Water Based Transistors
By Mike Johnston
Copyright 2005
A few issues back I looked at how you could create water based
electronic components. In that story I mentioned that I hadn't been
able to figure out how to build a water based tansistor. Now I have.
Not exactly what I thought one would look like and perhaps not
exactly what it is but I think calling it a transistor is a
reasonably good description of it's form and function (click here for
a description of how transistors work:
http://www.amasci.com/amateur/transis.html ) In essence a transistor
allows a small electrical current to control a large current. In the
case of the concept that I am going to lay out for you here you could
think of it as a small electrical current controlling a large
electrochemical current. Remember that the larger the current in an
electrolysis cell the more H2 that is produced.
In this water based transistor one of the main components will be an
electrical plasma. So first off let's get a simple definition of a
plasma; "A plasma is a gas in which an important fraction of the atoms
is ionized, so that the electrons and ions are separately free." This
ionization occurs when enough energy is present in the form of heat or
electrical energy. You could say then that, in this respect, a
container of water with electrolyte in it resembles a low energy,
liquid state plasma since the atoms of electrolyte in the water are
separated into ions.Interestingly enough the behavior of semiconducors
is explained as Solid State Plasma. Some examples of plasmas are; the
Solar Wind, the Earth's own Plasmasphere, Fluorescent Lights and
welding arcs. For information on various types of plasmas go to:
http://www.plasmas.org/basics.htm
Plasma illustration: http://www.geocities.com/mj_17870/plasma_d.gif
For the sake of simplicity here I am going to condense things as much
as I can. If you would like more in depth information on some of the
things that I am going to mention I would suggest that you download the
MIT course on Plasma (it is free to download) from: (
http://ocw.mit.edu/index.html ). MIT is doing some interesting work
with plasmas in relation to hot fusion reactors. When a plasma is
created between two metallic conductors via an electrical arc structres
can form within the arc which are called plasma tubes. These tubes are
created due to the way that the electrons and ions in the plasma
interact with and are moved by the electromagnetic fields within the
plasma. In the following illustrations you can see how charged
particles move in a plasma and how they form "tubes".
Figure 1: In this illustration you see particles forming their looping,
vortex paths. http://www.geocities.com/mj_17870/Figure1.bmp
Figure 2: In this drawing you see the looping orbit of charged particles
forming a tube around a magnetic field.
http://www.geocities.com/mj_17870/Figure2.bmp
Figure 3: In this drawing you are introduced to Charge Separation within
the plasma tubes. http://www.geocities.com/mj_17870/Figures3.bmp
Charge Separation is very interesting for the purpose of this paper.
What happens is that the oppositely charged particles within a plasma
tend to move to opposite sides of the plasma tube creating a positively
charged side and a negatively charged side. Remember that this is true
even though the overall plasma itself is still electrically neutral
because there are an equal number of positively and negatively charged
particles involved. In the next illustration you see two metal
electrodes with an electrical arc between them. Note that the charged
particles in this plasma arc are separated to opposite sides of the
plasma.
Figure 4 http://www.geocities.com/mj_17870/Figure4.bmp
If we were to create this electrical under water, or under water that
contains an electrolyte an interesting potential seems to present
itself.
Figure 5 http://www.geocities.com/mj_17870/Figure5.bmp
The positive and negative ions in the water should be expected to be
attracted to the side of the plasma tube which is charged oppositely
to thier own charge.
Figure 6 http://www.geocities.com/mj_17870/Figure6.bmp
In this last illustration we see that, once the oppositely charged ions
are attracted to the sides of the plasma tube the potential exists for
a transfer of electrons to take place across the plasma itself. The
result would be that H2 gas would be formed on one side of the plasma
and O2 gas on the other side. Why is this important?
The result should be that, if we limit the current in the metal
portion of the circuit,through the electrodes, that a plasma will
still be formed with less energy consumed and that a second
electrochemical current will be able to flow across the plasma. This
second current could potentially be much larger than the electrical
current which is being used to form the plasma. It would also allow
more H2 to be produced overall than would be predicted based on the
current through the electrodes and this has been noted by researchers
who are trying to produce H2 with a plasma arc. I believe this
"plasma transistor"model explains the source of that "excess" H2
within the realm of accepted science.
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Honda is leasing a couple of their FCX hydrogen-powered vehicles to
the City of Las Vegas, for $500 a month each. Las Vegas is going to
have negligible fuel costs,
as they’ll be refilling them at city-owned hydrogen "pumps".
(2) National Security to Lead Renewable Energy Deployment
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/010305_energy_deployment.shtml
In other words, the energy problem is so critical at this moment that
we must start using what we've got now, whether it's perfected or
not: whether it is sustainable
or not. If we don't, then we lose everything anyway. At least this
will start buying us a little time.
(3) Cities Eye Ocean Waves for Power Supplies
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050213/bs_nm/bizwaves_dc_1
Since ancient times poets have revered the power of the seas. Now
energy companies and coastal cities like New York and San Francisco
are aiming to tap ocean
waves and tidal currents as abundant sources of electricity.
(4) Nanotubes crank out hydrogen:
http://www.trnmag.com/Stories/2005/020905/Nanotubes_crank_out_hydrogen_Brief_020905.html
Researchers from Pennsylvania State University have constructed a
material made from titanium dioxide nanotubes that is 97 percent
efficient at harvesting the
ultraviolet portion of the sun's light and 6.8 percent efficient at
extracting hydrogen from water.
(5) Hydrogen fuel pioneer recalls the early days
http://www.lamonitor.com/articles/2005/02/15/headline_news/news03.txt
Hydrogen is one of those elusive halfway answers to the world's
future fuel needs. Despite a lot of work that has already been done,
hydrogen may always have to
be qualified by the eternally romantic, ever-beckoning adjective -
"promising."
(6) Pennsylvania hands out grants to develop alternate fuels
http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/stories/2005/02/14/daily6.html
Pennsylvania environmental officials on Monday awarded more than $1
million in alternative fuel grants to help fund the purchase of
hybrid vehicles and develop a
hydrogen fuel cell vehicle.
(7) Help Save the Planet
http://www.grist.org/comments/soapbox/2005/02/16/gelbspan/
What on earth is a person supposed to do? History and nature are on a
collision course. And we are trapped at ground zero. As the signals
from the climate
become excruciatingly urgent, the Bush administration turns its back
on the challenge, the U.S. press remains in denial, and the
environmental establishment
agonizes over its own relevance. All the while, we are, as the
British paper The Independent put it, sleepwalking into the
Apocalypse.
(8) Now for the Bad News: Spring is Early!
http://solutions.synearth.net/2005/02/16
It is now mid-February, and already I have sown 11 species of
vegetable....
(9) Micro Scooter : THIS SCOOTER'S NO POLLUTER
http://scooternewsii.blogspot.com/2005/02/micro-scooter-this-scooters-no.html
Enter the Aqwon, the first hydrogen-powered scooter to meet Germany's
stringent regulatory standards. The Aqwon scooter can hit 30 m.p.h.
with its two-stroke
engine, but the biggest challenge was building a fuel tank that could
safely store the hydrogen. In case of accident or fire, the Aqwon's
tank simply freezes. If only
the Hindenburg had had one of those.
(10) Hydrogen And Wind Power Comparison Websites
http://alt-energy.blogspot.com/2005/02/hydrogen-and-wind-power-comparison.html
Even though we're experts choosing the most appropriate hydrogen
and wind power comparison and alternative energy clothing domains
can be ... more ...
(11) Budget backs coal, hydrogen, nuclear
http://article.wn.com/link/WNAT4281D18F96C544E3441835A00ECF1067?source=templategenerator&template=hydrogenguide/headlines.txt
(12) Hydrogen fuel cell project at Princeton farm called world's first
http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage2050.html
Manure to H2
(13) Bush touts hydrogen power at future station
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/florida/sfl-fbush19feb19,0,6553848.story?coll=sfla-news-florida
(14) Hawaiian Climate Changing
http://pesn.com/2005/02/16/6900063_Hawiian_Climate_Changing/
Island inhabitant recounts recent unprecedented pace of storms.
Says Bush needs to rethink his response to Global Warming and take
it more seriously.
(15) Canadian alternative energy companies see opportunity in Kyoto agreement
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/cpress/20050213/ca_pr_on_bu/kyoto_opportunities_1
As the Kyoto treaty on greenhouse gas emissions comes into effect
this week, Canadian alternative energy companies are seeing green
of a different kind.
(16) Experts: Global Warming Is Real
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,66651,00.html
Studies that measure ocean temperature rather than air temperature
are more accurate in determining whether the climate is changing,
scientists say. And the
newest studies conclude that the planet is warming up, and people
are to blame for it.
(17) King tide pummels Kiribati
http://www.greenpeace.org/international_en/news/details?item_id=738870
Less than a week before the Kyoto Protocol enters into force, the
tiny island nation of Kiribati is ravished by a 'king tide' -- an
example of the kind of sea-level rise
we can expect to see more of as global temperatures increase.
(18) Kyoto Protocol becomes law
http://www.greenpeace.org/international_en/news/details?item_id=744874
Greenpeace activists, supporters, and volunteers around the world
celebrated the coming into force of the Kyoto Protocol with
banners, windmills, actions against
dirty power, and a shutdown of trading on the International
Petroleum Exchange in London. After more than ten years of
protracted - sometimes exhausting, often
frustrating - negotiations, thirty-five industrialised countries
along with the European Community are now legally bound to reduce
or limit their greenhouse gas
emissions.
(19) Global warming may kill off polar bears
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=14&click_id=143&art_id=qw110707309025B214
Many Arctic animals, including polar bears and some seal species,
could be extinct within 20 years...
(20) China fears Everest is shrinking
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-01/31/content_413755.htm
China is to re-measure the world's tallest peak, Mount Everest,
because of fears it may be shrinking....
(21) Melting ice lets ship set record
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,12111454%255E401,00.html
THE New Zealand crew of a polar research ship say it has ventured
further south than any other ship...
(22) Horrors of Global Warming Highlighted
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2005-02/03/article08.shtml
The study pulls together for the first time the projected impacts
on ecosystems and wildlife, food... Islam Online
(23) Food Scarcity Predicted With Rising Temps
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/breaking_news/10809153.htm
The combination of rising temperatures and falling water tables is
likely to lead to a tightening...
(24) Climate changes pose new challenges to coastal cities
http://www.heralddemocrat.com/articles/2005/02/10/texas_news/iq_1742280.txt
Coastal cities like Houston and London have instituted a variety of
initiatives to reduce problems...
(25) Global Warming Bill Means Thousands of New Jobs
http://www.commondreams.org/news2005/0210-09.htm
Major global warming legislation would add more than 800,000 new
jobs in America by 2025
(26) NASA says 2005 may be warmest year yet
http://abc.net.au/science/news/scitech/SciTechRepublish_1300451.htm
A weak El Nino and human-made greenhouse gases could make 2005 the
warmest year since records have been kept.
(27) Rise in sea level threatens leading bird reserve
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/environment/story.jsp?story=610281
It is Britain's most spectacular bird reserve, with more breeding
species than any other.
(28) Great Barrier Reef 'dead in 20 years'
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0700world/tm_objectid=15182794&method=full&siteid=50082&headline=great-barrier-reef----dead-in-20-years--name_page.html
In less that 20 years, rising sea temperatures caused by global
warming could kill Australia's Great Barrier Reef
(29) Climate change: Workshop ponders how to get people to care
http://www.communitypapers.com/DAILYCOURIER/myarticles.asp?P=1079914&S=400&PubID=13720
Getting the average person to care about global climate change is a
hard sell, a psychology expert...
(30) A glimpse of hell
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=31&art_id=qw110820420172B216
Whether it unfolds quickly by fire or slowly through global
warming, the future of this forested...
(31) It's much too late to sweat global warming, Time to prepare for
inevitable effects of our ill-fated future
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/02/13/INGP4B7GC91.DTL
At the core of the global warming dilemma is a fact neither side of
the debate likes to talk about:...
(32) Villagers unaware of climate changes
http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=16386
They said it (the climate changes) was the work of God which hit
them," Mr Areki said.
(33) Global warming hitting home in Auckland
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/SC0502/S00045.htm
Global warming is starting to affect the lifestyle of Aucklanders.
The problems the Huntly power... Scoop.co.nz
(34) Melting glaciers indicate a warmer world to come
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/archives/2005/02/14/2003223048
Up and down the icy spine of South America, the glaciers are
melting, the white mantle of the Andes... Taipei Times
(35) Earth Gets A Warm Feeling All Over
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/02/050212195102.htm
Last year was the fourth warmest year on average for our planet
since the late 1800s, according to NASA scientists.
(36) Global Warming Could Worsen U.S. Pollution
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/nm/20050219/sc_nm/environment_warming_dc
Global warming could stifle cleansing summer winds across parts of
the northern United States over the next 50 years and worsen air
pollution, U.S. researchers said
on Saturday.
(37) Ocean, Arctic Studies Show Global Warming Is Real
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/nm/20050217/sc_nm/environment_climate_dc
A parcel of studies looking at the oceans and melting Arctic ice
leave no room for doubt that it is getting warmer, people are to
blame, and the weather is going to
suffer, climate experts said on Thursday.
(38) Unfolding Story of Warming Planet
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20050216/ap_on_sc/kyoto_protocol_chronology
Key dates in the story of climate change
(39) It's a Warmer World, But Does That Mean Armageddon?
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/nm/20050214/sc_nm/environment_warming_dc
When bears wake early from hibernation, Australia suffers its worst
drought in 100 years and multiple hurricanes hammer Florida should
we believe The End is nigh?
(40) Global warming may dry out Taiwan by 2035
http://english.www.gov.tw/index.jsp?id=13&recid=103656&viewdate=0
Taiwan will suffer from severe water and electricity shortages by
2035 because of global warming,... Taiwan Headlines
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Field Energy
When the term Field Energy is mentioned, magnetism and rf effects come readily to mind, since these kind of energies produce their surrounding fields. However, there's also a different kind of energy - referred to as Higher, or Raised, Energy - and this is the kind of energy, existing as a Field, which will likely be used for Field Propulsion. This kind of energy is produced when two different energy waves overlap, from the same direction, from opposing directions, or from some angle.
When the energy which makes up the Field is in the visible spectrum, the Field Energy is noticably different than regular light in its appearance. This is something which allows the various effects to be characterised. A picture showing some of these effects is at:
http://www.freewebs.com/attatchments/artifacts.htm
Click on the image for an enlarged view and consider the assembly in the upper left part of the picture. It consists of a large spherical ornament positioned above the bottom of an aluminum can, with a couple of adjacent resmods. (Resmod is short for RESonant MODulus and this type of object is externally resonant, with a high Q.) The ornament is supported by the same type of grid tube used in the resmods, with the tube also supporting an "F" electrode made from copper foil with a dielectric glue on the inner surface. ("F" stands for Field, but it also referrs to the shape of the electrode with opposing plates.) This electrode also has a short horizontal flange on the right, or closed, side. This flange appears to be smeared out vertically, a photographic artifact which also appears in the orriginal Polaroid image.
The picture shows three different types of Field Energy, identifiable by the colors red, blue, and white, with the red and blue being mixed and appearing as purple. The Field Energy is electro-optical, which means that it can be conducted as well as focused or radiated, so electro-optical energy components don't have to be physically connected. The source of the Energy is the camera's flash tube. The flash stays on for an interval which allows light from the reflector to be compared with more light which the tube gives off an instant later, towards the direction of the assembly, rather than the reflector. The reflection, along with the time delay, allows the two light beams - one reflected and one not - to combine out of phase, producing a Field potential. This Field potential becomes visible when it interacts with the resmod detectors. When the two beams are out of phase by 180 degrees the combined Field looks blue. When the phase delay is 90 degrees the combined Field looks red.
And when all phase shift angles are added together the combined Field looks white. (The random phases are why the tops of clouds look white.) With the flash tube source, the phase shifts are random, so a little of each of these colors are produced in this manner, but the Field Energy components of the photo flash's light are discontinuous. Also, the Field Energy effects with this assembly, including the opacity, are minimal when only one resmod is used, so the Field coherence, and color seperation, occurs in the assembly itself. The reverse symetry relationship of the two resmod conductors allows the Higher Energy to seperate from the normal light which can only radiate. But an "L" shaped resmod assembly can also be useful, and should recieve further consideration, since the exciting energy is available in the background. Still, the double reflection in the spherical gradient produces the white on its own. One resmod is coplanar with the "F" electrode, which allows the resmod's
axial projection to change directions.
The power level of the Field Energy shown in the picture is low, but there's still a noticable interaction between the Field Energy and normal light reflected from the base board. This is why a round spot of white paint on the board looks triangular, at the left hand edge of the Field. The Field is weak enough that the background light can partially split the edge of the Field, but not very far in. This illustrates that Field Energy is opaque and suggests that this kind of energy can be used as a shield against electromagnetic radiation, including lasers and microwaves. Of equal importance is the way that the Field is projected out of the "F" channel, something which is caused by a property of the red energy which causes it to rotate around its own axis as it propagates. This causes the leading edge to stretch out beyond the distance normal light would travel in the same time. The red color is indicative of the length of the propagation's spiral, rather than the exact frequency which
is propagating. This stretch out in itself doesn't establish a super luminal capability of mass which interacts with the fields, but such a capability may exist. The red energy also interacts with the blue energy, which has a quasi static property, which means that the blue energy has rotational eddies throughout the Field, perpendicular to the Field's plane. This quasi static property enables blue Field Energy to also interact with charged particles, causing them to accelerate, an effect which can be seen by placing a bent safety pin in a microwave oven, since the bidirectional Field in the oven is equivalent to blue energy, although at a much lower frequency, and the charge which builds up on the metal causes it to sputter off at the point. With a spark and a flame (from a chunck of cigarette pushed onto the safety pin), the plasmoid extends upwards in the micro wave oven, rolling perpendicular to the field. While it is rising, the lengthwise rolling is equivalent to a curl.
Without the spark, normal flame which is supplied over an area will stretch out and go upwards really fast in pulses at random areas of the Field, although the nearby red energy's charge may be a required component and the flame looks dimmer than normal. Since the red pulls the blue out of the "F" channel, it can be taken that a Higher Energy Field will also block, attenuate, or extract coherent Field Energy. (The red plasmoid also pulls the quasi static energy out of a tubular electrode, even though the blue spark alone will not leave the tube.)
Field Energy can also be produced with electrical sparks, with the right circuitry. As an example, when DC from a High Voltage capacitor collides head on with AC from a High Voltage transformer, the resultant spark puffs way up, turns milky blue, and becomes completely opaque throughout the discharge time of the capacitor's pulse through its non magnetic timing inductor. So the Radar Men might not be happy to see this kind of absorber shield used as a cloak. The same spark turns pure white when shocked through a super sonic nozzel such as a foil less electrode. (The effect looks exactly the same as NASA's new Scramjet.) And the same spark will turn bright red, and opaque, when a small amount of hydrocarbon is added, such as the oil in inscence smoke, possibly because the Polar mass of the plasmoid yields a phase shift, but this may be a spectral effect. It seems likely that projecting a chemically red spark through the Field Energy of a blue spark will accelerate the red spark's
plasmoid mass. If it does (in the next experiment), this will allow the specific impulse of a chemical rocket to be increased by a factor of 100, a thousand, or maybe more. A rocket which will burn at full throttle for eight hundred minutes will allow a space ship returning to the earth to maintain a powered decent, and will provide quick access to the asteroids, Mars and the outter planets and ice crystals. So everyone can spend an hour and a half each way getting to work every day. And it's always possible that the chemical plasmoid can be left out, with momentum generation or squelching being due to relativistic effects of a color gradient from one side of a particle to the other, when the colors are regarded as pulsations of the right kind of energy. This might simulate the relativistic shrink gradient associated with normal inertia, due to doppler effects against the active vacuum. Ether, in its lighter form, is a type of multidirectional Higher Energy so the opaque spark and
the spark-like light may provide an ether barrier, blocking the continuity of the local ether and the rebirth of a propagating wave. (The heavier ether is a virtual particle flux recognizable as the Chemical ether; with the right detector, the concentration of a specific element is independent of the overall flux density.) And perhaps an ether paddle component can be rigged up. With that, engineering factors might be the only limit to the thrust. Using Near Field effects, vacuum dielectric interactions with the Higher Energy would be coupled to the supporting mechanically activated antenna. I've seen atmospheric suspension of a longitudinal helix spinning as if on the tertiary level.
JV
"Puff" Spark circuit:
http://www.escribe.com/science/freenrg/m17019.html
Plasmoid Projector:
http://www.escribe.com/science/freenrg/m17266.html
elongated, longitudinal helix:
http://www.escribe.com/science/keelynet/m4767.html
tertiary coil example:
http://l2.espacenet.com/dips/viewer?PN=US1119732&CY=ep&LG=en&DB=EPD
Ion adaptable Phase Controller with non longitudinal helix:
http://l2.espacenet.com/dips/viewer?PN=US2071517&CY=ep&LG=en&DB=EPD
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Field Energy

When the term Field Energy is mentioned, magnetism and rf effects come readily to mind, since these kind of energies produce their surrounding fields. However, there's also a different kind of energy - referred to as Higher, or Raised, Energy - and this is the kind of energy, existing as a Field, which will likely be used for Field Propulsion. This kind of energy is produced when two different energy waves overlap, from the same direction, from opposing directions, or from some angle.

When the energy which makes up the Field is in the visible spectrum, the Field Energy is noticably different than regular light in its appearance. This is something which allows the various effects to be characterised. A picture showing some of these effects is at:

http://www.freewebs.com/attatchments/artifacts.htm

Click on the image for an enlarged view and consider the assembly in the upper left part of the picture. It consists of a large spherical ornament positioned above the bottom of an aluminum can, with a couple of adjacent resmods. (Resmod is short for RESonant MODulus and this type of object is externally resonant, with a high Q.) The ornament is supported by the same type of grid tube used in the resmods, with the tube also supporting an "F" electrode made from copper foil with a dielectric glue on the inner surface. ("F" stands for Field, but it also referrs to the shape of the electrode with opposing plates.) This electrode also has a short horizontal flange on the right, or closed, side. This flange appears to be smeared out vertically, a photographic artifact which also appears in the orriginal Polaroid image.

The picture shows three different types of Field Energy, identifiable by the colors red, blue, and white, with the red and blue being mixed and appearing as purple. The Field Energy is electro-optical, which means that it can be conducted as well as focused or radiated, so electro-optical energy components don't have to be physically connected. The source of the Energy is the camera's flash tube. The flash stays on for an interval which allows light from the reflector to be compared with more light which the tube gives off an instant later, towards the direction of the assembly, rather than the reflector. The reflection, along with the time delay, allows the two light beams - one reflected and one not - to combine out of phase, producing a Field potential. This Field potential becomes visible when it interacts with the resmod detectors. When the two beams are out of phase by 180 degrees the combined Field looks blue. When the phase delay is 90 degrees the combined Field looks red.
And when all phase shift angles are added together the combined Field looks white. (The random phases are why the tops of clouds look white.) With the flash tube source, the phase shifts are random, so a little of each of these colors are produced in this manner, but the Field Energy components of the photo flash's light are discontinuous. Also, the Field Energy effects with this assembly, including the opacity, are minimal when only one resmod is used, so the Field coherence, and color seperation, occurs in the assembly itself. The reverse symetry relationship of the two resmod conductors allows the Higher Energy to seperate from the normal light which can only radiate. But an "L" shaped resmod assembly can also be useful, and should recieve further consideration, since the exciting energy is available in the background. Still, the double reflection in the spherical gradient produces the white on its own. One resmod is coplanar with the "F" electrode, which allows the resmod's
axial projection to change directions.

The power level of the Field Energy shown in the picture is low, but there's still a noticable interaction between the Field Energy and normal light reflected from the base board. This is why a round spot of white paint on the board looks triangular, at the left hand edge of the Field. The Field is weak enough that the background light can partially split the edge of the Field, but not very far in. This illustrates that Field Energy is opaque and suggests that this kind of energy can be used as a shield against electromagnetic radiation, including lasers and microwaves. Of equal importance is the way that the Field is projected out of the "F" channel, something which is caused by a property of the red energy which causes it to rotate around its own axis as it propagates. This causes the leading edge to stretch out beyond the distance normal light would travel in the same time. The red color is indicative of the length of the propagation's spiral, rather than the exact frequency
which is propagating. This stretch out in itself doesn't establish a super luminal capability of mass which interacts with the fields, but such a capability may exist. The red energy also interacts with the blue energy, which has a quasi static property, which means that the blue energy has rotational eddies throughout the Field, perpendicular to the Field's plane. This quasi static property enables blue Field Energy to also interact with charged particles, causing them to accelerate, an effect which can be seen by placing a bent safety pin in a microwave oven, since the bidirectional Field in the oven is equivalent to blue energy, although at a much lower frequency, and the charge which builds up on the metal causes it to sputter off at the point. With a spark and a flame (from a chunck of cigarette pushed onto the safety pin), the plasmoid extends upwards in the micro wave oven, rolling perpendicular to the field. While it is rising, the lengthwise rolling is equivalent to a curl.
Without the spark, normal flame which is supplied over an area will stretch out and go upwards really fast in pulses at random areas of the Field, although the nearby red energy's charge may be a required component and the flame looks dimmer than normal. Since the red pulls the blue out of the "F" channel, it can be taken that a Higher Energy Field will also block, attenuate, or extract coherent Field Energy. (The red plasmoid also pulls the quasi static energy out of a tubular electrode, even though the blue spark alone will not leave the tube.)

Field Energy can also be produced with electrical sparks, with the right circuitry. As an example, when DC from a High Voltage capacitor collides head on with AC from a High Voltage transformer, the resultant spark puffs way up, turns milky blue, and becomes completely opaque throughout the discharge time of the capacitor's pulse through its non magnetic timing inductor. So the Radar Men might not be happy to see this kind of absorber shield used as a cloak. The same spark turns pure white when shocked through a super sonic nozzel such as a foil less electrode. (The effect looks exactly the same as NASA's new Scramjet.) And the same spark will turn bright red, and opaque, when a small amount of hydrocarbon is added, such as the oil in inscence smoke, possibly because the Polar mass of the plasmoid yields a phase shift, but this may be a spectral effect. It seems likely that projecting a chemically red spark through the Field Energy of a blue spark will accelerate the red spark's
plasmoid mass. If it does (in the next experiment), this will allow the specific impulse of a chemical rocket to be increased by a factor of 100, a thousand, or maybe more. A rocket which will burn at full throttle for eight hundred minutes will allow a space ship returning to the earth to maintain a powered decent, and will provide quick access to the asteroids, Mars and the outter planets and ice crystals. So everyone can spend an hour and a half each way getting to work every day. And it's always possible that the chemical plasmoid can be left out, with momentum generation or squelching being due to relativistic effects of a color gradient from one side of a particle to the other, when the colors are regarded as pulsations of the right kind of energy. This might simulate the relativistic shrink gradient associated with normal inertia, due to doppler effects against the active vacuum. Ether, in its lighter form, is a type of multidirectional Higher Energy so the opaque spark and
the spark-like light may provide an ether barrier, blocking the continuity of the local ether and the rebirth of a propagating wave. (The heavier ether is a virtual particle flux recognizable as the Chemical ether; with the right detector, the concentration of a specific element is independent of the overall flux density.) And perhaps an ether paddle component can be rigged up. With that, engineering factors might be the only limit to the thrust. Using Near Field effects, vacuum dielectric interactions with the Higher Energy would be coupled to the supporting mechanically activated antenna. I've seen atmospheric suspension of a longitudinal helix spinning as if on the tertiary level.

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There has been discussion of what effects there would be in a transformer
if it became large compared to a wavelength.
Normally one does not think of propagation delays in a transformer, but
things like the change of magnetic flux, etc. However usually transformers
are very small compared to a wavelength. If one was built "large", would it
turn into an antenna, or is the "transformer" induction somehow different
than "near field" antenna theory?
Well I attempted to try it out, strung a horiz. rectangular loop in my rear
yard and fed it with a 6MHz signal from a small transmitter. In the center
was a small pickup coil or secondary that could be moved in position. I
attempted to measure a phase shift (in addition to that from the coax
cables). The large loop was about 30 feet on a side, about 9 meters, so the
4.5 meters to the center is about 33 deg. phase shift.
(wavelength = 50 m). It turns out difficult to measure the phase shift with
my scope (AC line wires and possibly the ground are affecting measurements,
but it appears small.
I also want to simulate it, does anyone know some simulations to calculate
the current along the loop, that is deviations from constant current?
I found this link:
http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/D.Jefferies/loop.html
Alternatively, is there an easy way to measure the current along the large
loop wire, say some sort of loop field-strength meter?
Once I have a current distribution, I can easily calculate the B-Field and
flux linking the receive loop, and compare to the signal I get.
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> There has been discussion of what effects there
> would be in a transformer
> if it became large compared to a wavelength.
I have thought of this for years, but mental
models,and mathemathematical models do not pan out as
positive proof to other folks as to what is involved
here, but quite a lot of evidence exists to support
the thesis. What is this thesis? I call it the
beginning of magic square technology, but as I
indicate it won't be accepted until an actual model is
built, because so much evidence only currently exists
as scopings of resonant frequencies, and the
relationship of the scope as a measuring instrument
comes into question, as the internal capacity of that
measuring instrument in turn influences the frequency
that gets recorded. By now folks are probably shaking
their heads and wondering what the heck I am driving
at. So I will attempt to explain. In your example you
use a very long length of wire, and a high frequency
source, where according to the principles of radio, if
the input frequency matches the natural resonant
frequency of the loop, a standing wave is set up by
predictions that the velocity of the electrical
impulse, ie C, the speed of light, by computing the
time period it takes to reach the end of the wire and
equating that to 1/4 of the time period that an actual
AC resonant frequency would have; we arrive at the
well known quarter wave calculation. This calculation
is often used in finding a tesla coil's primary C
value, where we have the combination of LpCp which by
resonant freq formula R(f)= 1/[2pi* sq rt{LC}]. In
this scenario Lp can be known, and Cp is predicted by
formula. The aim of this prediction is to make the
primaries resonant frequency the same as the
secondaries resonant frequency, which is given by the
quarter wave calculation. But in the making of
solenoidal secondary coils of larger height /diameter,
(about 5) ratios, we find that the actual secondary
vibration is about 50% faster, or higher in frequency
then what the quarter wave calculation yeilds. It is
as if C the light speed has increased in value. This
is well known in the tesla coil building community,
but what is not well known is that the reverse effect
is what you need to employ to make more convenient
experimentation on the ideas that are presented. What
a multiwound coil does is add internal capacity
between winds, and the addition of capacity, whether
as internal capacity or another externally paired C
value as used in a tesla primary circuit; the addition
of capacity always reduces the vibration. I dont think
the list supports attachments or I could show a
scoping of ~700,000 hz obtained as the "natural
electrical vibration" establihed by 100 ft of 1/8 inch
flattened braided wire sold as MegaCable Speaker Wire,
sold formed as dual sets of spiral winds, where the
1/8 inch width of the conductor establishes a
significant internal capacity between winds when wound
in this spiral fashion. The quarter wave value for 100
ft should be about 2.5 mghz, so here the internal
capacity has reduced the quarter wave vibration over
three fold. Another square coil of some 600 winds can
be scope shown to reduce the standing wave vibration
13 fold. The improved performance of that zig zag
spiral design is due to allowing equal influence for
both the voltage difference between adjacent winds,
AND the much higher voltage differences existing
between layers, by the use of square conductors. In
fact we come to understand that this coil construction
method is only exploiting the creation of internal
capacity on a one dimensional basis, and in fact if we
instead wound this square array on a diagonal basis,
then we could have higher relative voltage differences
on both horizontal AND vertical voltage differences.
In fact this kind of diagonal layering plan is
exhibited by every group 1 magic square, having an odd
no of sides. So from there we can actually state what
the magic squares are good for. They contain the
coding of wiring routes to establish a 4 sided
conductor coil of the maximum possible internal
capacity, which if this is applied to even squares
divisible by 4, a fascinating possibility emerges.
>From here then the conceptial problem becomes to make
a device in reality where the generator actually sees
a load where it could change AC polarity before the
propagation speed of the impulse allows for its
return, somewhat analogous to trapping electron
movement within an oscillation, normally considered
rediculous when that impulse is at light speed, but
here special methods are made to reduce that speed by
addition of internal capacity. As such here are some
calculations formerly posted on a different list to
show what would be required to take your same idea,
but power it from an alternator inputing 500 hz. The
repost may be repetive on this above theme...
--- Tesla list wrote:
> > Original poster: "Paul B. Brodie"
>
> >
> > I know we all love big sparks but has anyone done
> any serious research and
> > tried to duplicate Tesla's claims of wireless
> transmission of electric
> > power?
I would start with the study of lower frequency
resonators since apparently the great problem is that
resonant circuits in the 8 to 12 hz range are not
easily buildable, so first we can study existing
models and speculate from there what the requirements
would be if the same circuit were to be lowered in
frequency. I have a particular low frequency resonator
that might be used as a model; where it exhibits a
30,000 hz resonance from 25-30pf scopings; but the
coil is only a square succession of 20 zig zag spiral
layers of 30 winds, for a total of 600 winds. The
layering method is responsible for a certain amount of
internal capacity in the multiwound coil where it is
the voltage between layers that becomes predominant in
the internal CV^2 term, and not the voltage between
actual winds that makes little contribution. One
mathematical model based on comparing a diagonal
layering method for a 25 unit array compared to the
conventional zig zag layering showed that the
diagonally wound model would have almost 6 times more
internal capacity, where if this were true the
existing inductor using diagonal windings resonating
at 30,000 hz would now resonate at 5,000 hz. Now this
particular inductor already resonates 13 times slower
then what quarter wave value estimations give, where
each wind is only 20 inches in circumference.
Supposing then the wire route change were able to
accomplish a 5000 hz resonance, how far would I have
to expand the circumference to match 500 hz from an
alternator? Ten times the initial 20 inch per wind
equals 200/12 = 16.6 ft per wind, or a diameter of
only 5.3 ft. To model a further reduction down to 10
hz, this would be a 50 fold reduction yeiding 830 ft
per wind, for a huge diameter coil of some 264 ft.
Just some idle speculation of what a earth frequency
resonant coil might look like...
HDN
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Energy Machine Inventor
Joseph W. Newman
will hold a
News Conference
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National Press Club in Washington, D.C.
529 14th Street, NW
on
Monday, March 28, 1:00PM
Lisagor Room
* * * * *
Joseph Newman will display/demonstrate his newest energy machine
that is a quantum leap above his earlier energy machine technology.
As the price of oil escalates, Joseph Newman's energy machine
is an inexpensive, non-polluting electromagnetic source for the
world's energy needs.
This technology provides access to virtually unlimited energy that is
abundant, inexpensive, and environmentally-friendly.
The Newman energy machine is an electromagnetic motor that runs
COOL (unlike ALL conventional motors) and harnesses the
elemental forces of the universe in accordance
with the 1st Law of Thermodynamics.
The Newman energy machine will provide a stable and durable
alternative to oil, gas, coal, and nuclear energy sources.
This technology will power every automobile, home, appliance,
farm, factory, ship, and plane at a FRACTION of the present cost of energy.
A worldwide inexpensive energy source will have profound
geopolitical implications for the Middle East.
* * * * *
See for yourself a new technology that will meet the
future energy needs of humanity.
* * * * *
http://www.josephnewman.com
Email: josephnewman@earthlink.net
Contact:
(205) 835-9022 [Joseph Nolfe, President & CEO, Newman Energy Corp.]
The future of the human race may be dramatically uplifted by the large-scale,
commercial development of this invention."
--- Dr. Roger Hastings, Principal Physicist, UNISYS CORPORATION
"If the manner in which Joseph Newman conducted his experiments and the results
were made known to the industrial or engineering community then, in my opinion,
several companies and/or individuals possess the expertise and capabilities
to construct the hardware required to fully exploit the apparent
capability of his new concepts."
--- Dr. Robert E. Smith, Chief, Orbital and Space Environment Branch,
George C. Marshall Space Flight Center, NASA
"You have opened an area in Astrophysics which may revolutionize the
magnetic energy problems
which is now the most paramount problem in future energy and space travel.
I do believe with proper research funds, the results would not only
be a great financial boom to your financiers,
but would lead to developments that will be practical and beneficial
to all mankind and develop a new step in science."
--- Dr. E. L. Moragne, MORAGNE RESEARCH & DEVELOPMENT CO.
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National Press Club in Washington,
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529 14th Street,
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Monday, March 28, 1:00PM

Lisagor
Room

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Joseph Newman will
display/demonstrate his newest energy machine

that is a quantum leap above
his earlier energy machine technology.

As the price of oil escalates,
Joseph Newman's energy machine

is an inexpensive,
non-polluting electromagnetic source for the world's energy
needs.

This technology provides access
to virtually unlimited energy that is

abundant, inexpensive, and
environmentally-friendly.

The Newman energy machine is an
electromagnetic motor that runs

COOL (unlike ALL
conventional motors) and harnesses the

elemental forces of the
universe in accordance

with the 1st Law of
Thermodynamics.

The Newman energy machine will
provide a stable and durable

alternative to oil, gas, coal,
and nuclear energy sources.

This technology will power
every automobile, home, appliance,

farm, factory, ship, and plane
at a FRACTION of the present cost of energy.

A worldwide inexpensive energy
source will have profound

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See for yourself a new
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http://www.josephnewman.com

Email:
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Contact:

(205) 835-9022 [Joseph
Nolfe, President & CEO, Newman Energy Corp.]

The future of the human race
may be dramatically uplifted by the large-scale,

commercial development of
this invention."

--- Dr. Roger Hastings,
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industrial or engineering community then, in my
opinion,

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George C. Marshall Space
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which is now the most
paramount problem in future energy and space travel.

I do believe with proper
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to your financiers,

but would lead to
developments that will be practical and beneficial to all mankind and
develop a new step in science."

--- Dr. E. L. Moragne,
MORAGNE RESEARCH & DEVELOPMENT CO.

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* * * * *
Energy Machine Inventor
Joseph W. Newman
will hold a
News Conference
at the
National Press Club in Washington, D.C.
529 14th Street, NW
on
Monday, March 28, 1:00PM
Lisagor Room
* * * * *
Joseph Newman will display/demonstrate his newest energy machine
that is a quantum leap above his earlier energy machine technology.
As the price of oil escalates, Joseph Newman's energy machine
is an inexpensive, non-polluting electromagnetic source for the =
world's energy needs.
This technology provides access to virtually unlimited energy that is
abundant, inexpensive, and environmentally-friendly.
The Newman energy machine is an electromagnetic motor that runs
COOL (unlike ALL conventional motors) and harnesses the
elemental forces of the universe in accordance
with the 1st Law of Thermodynamics.
The Newman energy machine will provide a stable and durable
alternative to oil, gas, coal, and nuclear energy sources.
This technology will power every automobile, home, appliance,
farm, factory, ship, and plane at a FRACTION of the present cost of =
energy.
A worldwide inexpensive energy source will have profound
geopolitical implications for the Middle East.
* * * * *
See for yourself a new technology that will meet the
future energy needs of humanity.
* * * * *
http://www.josephnewman.com
Email: josephnewman@earthlink.net
Contact:
(205) 835-9022 [Joseph Nolfe, President & CEO, Newman Energy Corp.]
The future of the human race may be dramatically uplifted by the =
large-scale,
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--- Dr. Roger Hastings, Principal Physicist, UNISYS CORPORATION
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Hi all,
I would like to start a discussion about the ethics involved in releasing a
free energy machine for public use.
Would this cause chaos?
Would this make the world a better place to live?
Would you be in danger in anyway? (great conspiracy etc)
Also would you go for a patent or give it away for everyone to use? After
all it's your discovery.
I think that I wouldn't be in any kind of danger.
In such a case I would become too famous and the invention would be known to
everyone.
A patent would make that possible and would protect me against unauthorized
use of it. Some would say that 'great conspiracy' would steal my patent from
me but I don't think so. It might be true for the US patent office but there
are a lot more out there.
What about EU patent offices? Japanese? Chinese? And a lot more.
Beside that there is also the power of media. If you were on TV, who wouldn'
t know about you. I am not talking about uneducated people whom I respect
but the scientific community. What about lawyers? They also would have
something to add on your behalf.
What about causing chaos???
I think that would be a problem. Oil would become useless which will cause
its prize to fall. World economy is based on oil. What would be the
consequences of it? I think world economy would become unstable causing
another great crack like 1920's. That would be a bigger a problem for the
most developed countries.
Do you think the world economy is mature enough to resist such a hit?
Of course the world would be a better place after balance is restored.
Nuclear energy would become of use. Cars would not use oil. There would be
enough energy for recycling our rubbish. Space travel would get a boost and
it would possible for us to send our chemical waste to the sun.
What is your opinion?
Any more ideas?
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It all depends on what you want to do. If it works and you want to help humanity and not be the next Bill Gates then your best option is to release it to the world and patent it at the same time.
If you release it and don't patent it you open up the possibility for someone else to patent it and totally screw you.
As far as the media goes, check on who owns 'it' before you convince yourself that they will spread your word. General Electric owns NBC and other outlets - they have a LOT to lose by the invention. They make tons off of nuclear power plants, electric generators, etc. I don't know all the companies the media comglomerates own, but thier bottom line is more important than you or me.
Unless the invention is so simple, so basic that it can completely replace coal and oil in under a years time then there should be no concern to economies of the world. There will be losers of course - all those heavily invested in today's technologies- but that has been the case after every innovation.
Where are all the candle-makers today?
If your invention ruins the life of one investor for every real person it helps, I'd have no qualms about it. Today's business ethics is that it's ok to screw the common people if your investors can gain another penny. There are no morals in free trade capitalism.
Good luck
>
> From: "G N"
> Date: 2005/03/29 Tue AM 04:50:20 EST
> To:
> Subject: [FG]: Free Energy Ethics
>
> Hi all,
>
> I would like to start a discussion about the ethics involved in releasing a
> free energy machine for public use.
>
> Would this cause chaos?
> Would this make the world a better place to live?
> Would you be in danger in anyway? (great conspiracy etc)
>
> Also would you go for a patent or give it away for everyone to use? After
> all it's your discovery.
>
> I think that I wouldn't be in any kind of danger.
> In such a case I would become too famous and the invention would be known to
> everyone.
> A patent would make that possible and would protect me against unauthorized
> use of it. Some would say that 'great conspiracy' would steal my patent from
> me but I don't think so. It might be true for the US patent office but there
> are a lot more out there.
> What about EU patent offices? Japanese? Chinese? And a lot more.
>
> Beside that there is also the power of media. If you were on TV, who wouldn'
> t know about you. I am not talking about uneducated people whom I respect
> but the scientific community. What about lawyers? They also would have
> something to add on your behalf.
>
> What about causing chaos???
> I think that would be a problem. Oil would become useless which will cause
> its prize to fall. World economy is based on oil. What would be the
> consequences of it? I think world economy would become unstable causing
> another great crack like 1920's. That would be a bigger a problem for the
> most developed countries.
> Do you think the world economy is mature enough to resist such a hit?
>
> Of course the world would be a better place after balance is restored.
> Nuclear energy would become of use. Cars would not use oil. There would be
> enough energy for recycling our rubbish. Space travel would get a boost and
> it would possible for us to send our chemical waste to the sun.
>
> What is your opinion?
> Any more ideas?
>
>
>
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 cbh014@bellsouth.net wrote:
> It all depends on what you want to do. If it works and you want to help
> humanity and not be the next Bill Gates then your best option is to
> release it to the world and patent it at the same time.
>
> If you release it and don't patent it you open up the possibility for
> someone else to patent it and totally screw you.
>
Moray B. King addressed this in his book "Tapping the Zero-Point Energy".
He referred to it as "the Prometheus Game".
I posted an excerpt from it here many years ago. I recently had a hard
drive crash and that piece of text was one of the things I lost. I can
dig out the book and re-quote it if anyone is interested in what he had to
say.
Zack
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History has proven the greed of mankind, and to what lengths mankind will go
to get what it wants.
Take a good look at Nikola Tesla's life. Even with hundreds of patents, he
died almost pennyless, while big business of that time made millions on his
patents.
If you are so foolish as to believe that big business will not do whatever
it takes to ensure it remains in business, then you will make yourself an
easy target. I cannot fathom several hundred billion dollars a year of
sales simply vanishing without any attempt to stop that from happening.
Perhaps you should read some U.S. Patent Law to understand how far the U.S.
Government alone will go to stop the disruption of it's economy. It has
given itself the legal means to stop the developement of such a machine "In
the interest of National Security." Do you honestly think that any other
country will allow the same to happen when it means the end of their
economic system as they know it?
Whomever comes forward with a "free energy" machine will be both a hero and
quite possibly the most hated person of all time, even to the huddled
masses. Why? Because his machine will cause such disruption of the World's
Economy that millions may starve and die. This person will quite possibly
have been directly responsible for the deaths of many more than were lost at
the hands of Adolph Hitler.
A free energy machine may sacrifice the lives of millions for the good of
billions yet it has to be done to ensure the survival of mankind and the
planet it thrives upon. This is inevitable and the goverments of these
people can only hope to get behind this movement to see that the change
happens as fast as it possibly can so as to lessen the loss of life as much
as possible. Fighting it can and will cause unnecessary loss of life.
Again, history will prove that greed will stand in the way of any Government
doing what it could do to lessen the loss of life.
When Columbus returned to Spain, how many "savages" lost their life to
deliver gold to the Throne?
How many more to the Spanish Conquistadors?
If I possessed the knowledge to create such a machine and knowing full well
the outcome of introducing it to the world, I would still move forward in
doing so, as for not doing so would surely mean the end of mankind as we
slowly poison our planet and ourselves.
You have to take the lid off of the can before you can smell the coffee.
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Zack Widup Wrote
>Moray B. King addressed this in his book "Tapping the Zero-Point Energy".
>He referred to it as "the Prometheus Game".
I like very much the simile with Prometheus. It happens to come from Greece
:-)
I have never thought it in such a way.
Do you refer to that post?
http://www.amasci.com/freenrg/prometh.txt
But would you be in danger just for revenge or in order to frighten future
rebels?
cbh014@bellsouth.net wrote
>General Electric owns NBC and other outlets
I agree to what you are talking about, but there are a lot more media
companies which are independent. At least they won't realize from the
beginning the major disturbance they will cause to their 'friends'.
>There will be losers of course - all those heavily invested in today's
technologies- but that has been the case after every innovation.
>Where are all the candle-makers today?
That is called progress and I vote for it.
Of course, I don't care about those investors. I care about common people
lives.
As M J Mitch Mitchell wrote
>Whomever comes forward with a "free energy" machine will be both a hero and
quite possibly the most hated person of all time, even to the huddled
masses. Why? Because his machine will cause such disruption of the World's
Economy that millions may starve and die. This person will quite possibly
have been directly responsible for the deaths of many more than were lost at
the hands of Adolph Hitler.
The question that rises upon all these statements is not if this is morale
to release such knowledge to the public. I think we all agree that in the
future this will be beneficial to human kind and if we had such knowledge we
would be immoral if we kept it secret.
I am wondering if there is a safe way for the scientist and the public to
absorb and apply that knowledge in every day life.
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NONSENSE
If , and IF is the operative word here, Free Energy became available
tomorrow we would start doing more stuff.
And doing more stuff means that the we will have " economic growth" which
is what every body in the corporate world wants.
Tesela was a nut, a poor business man, and a cantankerous old fart. Patent
means public. When we patent something we tell all about how to do it.
That is why there is no patent for the formula to Coca-Cola. When a
machine letting the juice of the universe flow to our bidding, happens in
one of our garages then all that the occupant of that garage will need
do is sit back and wait for the checks. Or publish the plans on this
forum if they wish to share, after all this the Free Energy list server.
There might be a hiccup or two but the disruption to our economy would be
minor if energy prices fell. I know I would not save the money I spend on
fuel. Come to think of it. I would buy a car and cut back on riding my
bicycle. I would go more places. The people of Africa who live in abject
poverty while their rulers horde kogerands collected from pilfered oil
resources might indeed see a rising of their living standards.
Eliminating the scarcity of energy??
Holly smokes IF that happened-- wow!
good diggin
Jim
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