Hi all,
I live in Switzerland since september 2008. I feel strangely wierd when I see banners all around the city angrily expressing anti-islamism. If I werent a muslim, believe me, sincerelly, I would feel bad about these happenings though.
I want you to comment about. Is the religion in Switzerland the best element or tool to achieve political goals in the country?

p.s. : for reference I would recommend to read The Federal Constitution of the Swiss Confederation

Welcome to the forum! I don't quite understand what you're saying yet I feel confident that there are other relevant threads that have discussed much of what you're trying to say - search for minarets or SVP posters.

Europeans have strived to decrease the power Christianity had over one's daily life. Just as they have managed to make Christianity something of an individual choice, they are now noticing the influx of devout Muslims and the power the religion has over its believers. It's like starting the battle all over again.

My take for the moment.

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Hi all,
I live in Switzerland since september 2008. I feel strangely wierd when I see banners all around the city angrily expressing anti-islamism. If I werent a muslim, believe me, sincerelly, I would feel bad about these happenings though.
I want you to comment about. Is the religion in Switzerland the best element or tool to achieve political goals in the country?

p.s. : for reference I would recommend to read The Federal Constitution of the Swiss Confederation

No, I don't think that he Swiss are anti Islam per say. (Or is it Per Se?)

I just think that the Swiss are fairly rigid in their social conventions. I think you will find that they like anyone with lots of money and are very flexible when it comes to business. This country seems to take business very seriously and is very welcoming to anyone that furthers that aim. If this wasn't true then there wouldn't be any foreigners here. And I thought I read on this site that 30% of the population are Auslanders.

I think the other thing you must consider is where in the CH you are. Some areas are far more nationalistic than others. This holds true in Germany, France, Great Britain, the USA, and so on and so forth.

Please contradict or correct me if I am wrong in any of this.

Although I don't always agree with the Swiss way of doing things, I do recognise a thread of internal consistency in the way things work around here. I don't always like where it leads. But one can respect the rigor of the logic used even if one doesn't always agree with it.

Sometimes, I cringe when I am exposed to some of the social beliefs that are considered axiomatic in this country. But, if you came to my country (USA) you would rapidly discover many social tenets that are, in my mind, uncomfortable for civilised people to contemplate let alone act upon. Just remember, "Where ever you go, there you are."

Brian.

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I'm fundamentally against bans, and advocate freedom of speech. However, I'm clearly against the fact that the red lines of Swiss democracy are crossed like this and that a specific group like the Muslims are attacked in such an impious way

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Just opened my bible (The New American Bible) and found this quote (job 20)

God shall send gainst him the fury of his wrath
and rain down his missles of war upon him.
Should he escape the iron weapon,
the box of bronze shall pierce him through
he dart shall come out of his back
terrors shall fall him

(it continues with more text and then ends with)
This is the portion of a wicked man, and the heritage appointed him by God.

The Christian bible is very violent and aggressive. I don't think it's fair to quote other religions and then turn a blind eye to Christian bibles.

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