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Monday, April 06, 2015

New Bethesda restaurant Villain & Saint sets opening night lineup

Markham's Bar and Grill has closed for renovations, and will reopen as Villain & Saint on Thursday, April 16, according to the new restaurant's Facebook page. The latest Bethesda venture from Chef Robert Wiedmaier's RW Restaurant Group, its website is counting down the days and hours.

The Lloyd Dobler Effect, and guests Elizabeth and Katrina, will perform on opening night, the 16th. The Kelly Bell Band will follow the next evening.

On an interesting side note, the Montgomery Women's Cooperative Farm Market has been reaching out to Villain & Saint, hoping to cooperate on some joint events with their new next door neighbor.

6:47: Hypocrisy and double standard - two of your specialties. The fact that you're here trolling, and I'm not trolling on other local websites, speaks for itself. Can George Leventhal stage an intervention for you?

8:13: So my stories like Bruce Variety closing its Bradley Shopping Center location, ShopHouse to Bethesda Row, Cheesecake Factory closing and moving to Montgomery Mall, or the Westbard Avenue RadioShack closing don't count? Under your logic, you should have been trolling on those sites which failed to report those stories "in a timely and complete manner." Once again, you've embarrassed yourself.

7:50: No major corporate headquarters has moved to Montgomery County in over a decade. You sound like a moron trying to equate a facility expansion with scoring Northrop or Volkswagen corporate headquarters - all went to "failing" VA.

"No major corporate headquarters has moved to Montgomery County in over a decade."

Lol, who the fuck cares if it's technically the HQ of a company? They're moving 700 new, high-paying jobs to MoCo and you still whine like a little bitch.

You cite VA as getting Volkswagen's HQ, which resulted in 400 new jobs in VA at the cost of $6M in corporate welfare paid by VA residents. Compare that with 700 new jobs from GSK coming to MoCo with ZERO state/county subsidy/handout. And yet you think VA's awesome shit because they got an "HQ." Do you understand how unbelievably stupid you sound, Dyer? You know exactly nothing about what's best for MoCo. You're just a right-wing troll who doesn't know shit about economics.

2:02: First of all, your comment - posting an article that has nothing to do with Villain & Saint, or even Bethesda! - was spam. But as far as the AstraZeneca story, I think it is great news and another step forward in establishing our successful biotech sector in the county. There's nothing negative about it. What I said was, it is not a corporate headquarters. Volkswagen was just one of many corporations to move to Virginia, with Intelsat being the most recent. Your claim that there is no corporate welfare involved in the AZ Medimmune deal is not accurate. There are many tax breaks and considerations for biotech firms from MoCo and the state. And unlike you, I don't oppose those important incentives to bring jobs here.

As far as me being "right wing" - that's a pretty hysterical claim about a guy who the Seventh State blog said was to the left of the County Council. Not all Republicans are in the Tea Party. You've got Republican Jim Gleason to thank for Ride On bus, and Gilbert Gude for the C&O Canal park.

If anyone has any insight on why Dyer hates to see MoCo success, I'd be happy to understand him better. I just assume it's because he's a Republican and hates to see liberal places thrive. Then again, NoVA is extremely liberal as well, so that doesn't explain why he thinks NoVA is the shit.

Dyer says Rockville adding 700 brand new, high paying jobs sans subsidy is not impressive because it's *only* a "facility expansion" and pales in comparison to NoVa adding 400 Volkswagen jobs (you know, that event which happened almost a decade ago and cost VA taxpayers $6,000,000). That's how desperate Dyer is to manufacture a reason why MoCo still sucks, even when something awesome happens.

2:44: You started the day lying, and you're ending it as a pathological liar. I just posted that the AstraZeneca jobs were good news. You were talking about the MoCo vs. NoVa competition. No, this one addition of jobs does not offset the thousands of high-wage jobs created or stolen by Virginia. It is not a Fortune 500 corporate headquarters, of which MoCo has attracted zero in over a decade.

In fact, this success barely will help us offset the recent score NoVa had in securing its own biotech campus.

You're also lying about the cost to taxpayers. Biotech firms are getting tax breaks and financial incentives, whether the reporters choose to acknowledge them or not. Incentives are good, as are the 700 jobs.

Intelsat and CEB were not "almost a decade ago - and neither was Volkswagen going to Virginia, for that matter. Are you a time traveler?

You're the one who's desperate, lying about me and the facts. Biotech has been, and is, doing well in MoCo. Unfortunately, the larger County economy has been, and is, moribund. Just the facts. Educate yourself.

2:51: So are FDR, Woodrow Wilson and William Donald Shaefer - and your point is? 2014 vs. 1964? Are you time traveling again? Here in 2015, I am more progressive than Hans Riemer and George Leventhal. Embarrassing for them to be more right-wing than a Republican. What keeps you going every day working for those guys, anyway? Just the money? Baba Booey.

4:49: Four Pinocchios, pants on fire fact check rating for your lies. I was the first to report this. Your childish posting of the same false statement makes me wonder if your employer should be charged with breaking child labor laws.

"7:30: You tried to say Volkswagen was "almost a decade ago." Stop lying. As I pointed out, Virginia's success has continued through the present, with Intelsat and the CEB deals.

They added 300 jobs to the deal since this afternoon? Nice try, Pinocchio SmithKline."

You are so fucking illiterate, Dyer, I can't stand it. Yes, Volkswagen was almost a decade ago. Yes, the GSK story is about 1,000 Rockville jobs, including 700 that are brand new. How are you so fucking uneducated that you don't understand these basic facts? Trying to have a conversation with you is unbearable. Maybe educate yourself so that I might be able to stop explaining every fucking thing to you three times over. 1000 jobs; 700 new. Compared to Volkswagen where in 2008 400 jobs were moved to VA at the cost of $6M VA taxpayer funded corporate handout. Do you understand all that? Can I take the training wheels off this conversation now?

8:17: News flash: It is the same party. You seem to be confusing factions with political parties. The Republican Party has been in continuous existence for over a century. Check a history book sometime - could be enlightening for you.

8:21: Volkswagen didn't actually make the physical move until 2009, only 6 years ago.

Hypocrisy - the Gazette reports that your 700 Glaxo Smith Kline jobs are also being poached from other states. I think that's good, but you should be consistent in condemning all evil poaching of jobs from other states. You just took candy from a baby!

9:33: First of all, chill out - you sound like a member of the Taliban. Seriously.

Second, you are belligerent, and keep talking past the factual points I've made. You make it sound like VW was the only win NoVa had, which is total BS.

You've got to add up total jobs and corporate HQs, and that comparison is humiliating - humiliating! - for MoCo.

As I said, Virginia just scored their own biotech campus a few weeks ago. You're barely offsetting that with Glaxo.

There are only 700 actual new jobs, not 1000. And you've got to hold them to that. Morgan Stanley promised a certain number at a Baltimore office, but I never saw that total reflected in their job listings in the years following that.

9:44: I mentioned Northrop and VW as only 2 examples of many corporate headquarters scored by Virginia. By excusing the incompetence of MoCo elected officials, you are harming the county and our prospects for the future. Stop putting politics above competent leadership and economic development.

7:15: It's really simple, idiot. The longer you contribute to the no-accountability culture of MoCo and the local media, the longer we'll continue to fall behind competing jurisdictions in the region. In real life, there are no do-overs or unlimited chances to get it right. I understand you're content with mediocrity and failure, as demonstrated by your great passion for Hans Riemer and George Leventhal.

Look at the larger picture. (Not that GoldenBook.) ie. The Future. Rather than get in a conniption about phrases like "corporate headquarters" (or Fortune 500s, for that matter), OR political parties, let's look at the goal: A long-term increase of the kinds of jobs people can make a career out of -- here locally, rather than in a neighboring state.

Council cares, but about what exactly? Where's the housing and career job for when Junior's out of university? Is he really gonna have to move to VA to have a good life? Cos he sure as hell ain't gonna start off in a 10 million penthouse working at Villain and Saint.

It seems there are a couple of factions here. Those who disagree with Robert and debate his opinions and points, those who disagree with his logic versus the points themselves, and those who just don't like him. And of course a cross section.

From the peanut gallery the supporters are similar too. Those who truly believe his points, those who follow just one perspective, and those who like him.

It's all fine, let's just refrain from name calling (from both sides, author included)

It was about time for you to weigh in, Flynn. (You're the one that feigns neutrality and actually possesses a brain.) Interesting for you to step in at THIS point (vs. any preceding point, during which you've posted amidst all kinds of sordid trash-talking... when it was only about Dyer).

I respectfully disagree with your bias of referring to those who oppose in terms of factions, yet supporters are labeled the "peanut gallery." You might try taking your own advice.

We will agree to disagree on interpretations of logic and which "factions" are limited in perspective. (Due to the progressive, solution-oriented rather than party-based nature of Dyer's stances, it is tad impossible to support his politics while following "just one perspective." He sure doesn't.)

Actually I do apologize. I meant rather that all of us, on any given side, are the peanut gallery. Not any one point of view. Apologies if that was misspoken/misrepresented.

I get your points, certainly, but also disagree with your assessment that Dyer's stances are progressive and solution based. From my perspective, he offers a lot of criticism and conjectures, but what are his proposed solutions and what are they based on? Simply saying get a guy out of office or "this sounds shady" are a good start but open ended without any suggested alternative or resolution or data supporting or validating the fact.

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