A nice list, but I always take those RS lists with a grain of salt anymore. Like Scott said though, the majority of what is there has been confirmed by Q and A's already, and if this is accurate, it looks like some nice lineups. If I am remembering correctly, the interview with Derryl DePriest on the TFN podcast said that we should see Wave 5 (which has already been revealed) along with the next wave before having a bit of a gap again like we have in previous years. That would likely mean the wave with Bespin Han on that list would kick off the Fall then possibly. I'm curious about the Luke Skywalker on that list, if that is a new version, or the recarded one (currently shipping in the ROTJ wave) that they have mentioned with a new cardback or nameplate (I can't remember which now).

Other than that, a nice list. I was sort of hoping for a Skiff Lando re-do, but the General version is welcome as well. I have to admit, I'm losing interest in a lot of the clones at this point. Many (or all) could just be recarded figures, but I'm pretty happy with the versions we have for the most part. Also, like Jeff mentioned, it is hard to understand how it is so difficult to get the regular old Stormtrooper in the line these days. I know we've got one coming in Wave 5, but as mentioned we see Clones all the time...and I think we've even seen the Snowtroopers and Biker Scouts more often. It just seems like a nice "ultimate" Stormtrooper should be available nearly all the time, it is sort of the ultimate army builder to me (at least for OT fans).

And I've been hinting at the RFT coming in 2011 for a while on here... I was told this at Toy Fair by the Grand Poobah. So that one's been out there a while too, with Hasbro confirming they're doing it. Just a matter of when it was coming out. :)

I've been excited for most of the list there since it was confirmed at various points.

So will the Clone Troopers have pre-yellowed helmets like the current plain white one?

Ask that in the Q&A.

Skiff Master Weequay, Kithaba and Bom Vimdin are the highlight of all those. I have a feeling they'll screw up Rebel Fleet Trooper. 3rd Strike is a charm. Watch him be an inch taller than the tallest stormtrooper.

I find some Jedi redos irritating, since some they could've gotten right the first or second time (Aayla). Triple dipping...

Are you going back to 2002 with that, or no? I didn't mind the ROTS figure of Aayla, actually, but I kind of don't count half the 2002/2003 bull**** figures we got... So with that in mind, Aayla is kind of the ideal figure to make the, "minor tweaks" thread...

New arms are enough for me to rebuy her. If they add other stuff like ball-jointed hips (difficult though, no her small frame and tight outfit I think), it's really going to be gravy if it's done right. Just new super articulated arms would've sufficed for me though, like Shaak Ti got. :)

This is a cool list, and I'm happy to see a few on there that are TOTALLY NEW.

Ed, I had to look up the Vong guy too, but here's the thing. If you look at some of the comic images, they look too over the top, too corny, and to me, very un SW. However, there is one image which is a little more subtle, and less goofy. If they use that as the guide, it could be a nice figure. More like Tion Medden, less like Skeletor.

Yes and no. No they wouldn't have been super articulated in 2002 of course. But back then they made some figures like the previously unnamed Nikto Jedi, that were little more than statues, even compared to Episode 1 releases. That stuff turned me off Star Wars for a while.

In terms of ROTS, they could've gone further and we wouldn't have needed Agen Kolar and Plo Koon again. And IIRC, we don't have a fully SA Ki-Adi Mundi, just a SA concept one (and maybe that comic pack one, I'm not sure).

I admit, I'd probably get Aayla again if she had better arms. Mine has a loose knee anyway. And I missed the Clone Wars version (saw it once with bad paint ops and then never again).

Complaining about character repetition in Star Wars toys is pointless. I admit that.

Or, like was said, it'll have something wrong with it. My guess is the vest will now not be removable. :)

Scockery, I agree completely... I almost write off those two years of collecting like they didn't exist. Very little came out in those years that is of any quality. I recall people loved to pile-on that they were great, and anyone complaining needed to quit the hobby, blah blah blah... But I still maintain those years as some of the worst int he hobby. The line was tanking horribly, it led to a lot of positive changes, but the growing pains sucked.

ROTS put out Jedi pretty great, but that of course leads to the "what minor tweaks..." concept... Minor tweaks are the future now I think. At least for a lot of the line anyway.

But then stuff like Ackbar comes up, and do you care about ankles? I'd rather have his chair,a ctually. I'd rebuy him for that, but ankles, so long as the feet are sculpted simply flat/forward-facing, I'm never that dire on seeing the articulation. Basically every other point of articulation becomes more important (unless of course it's like the training Clone, which is a decent figure till you get to those friggin' posed-sculpted-ankles... which gives me an idea for a post).

I mainly want to know what the Luke is going to be. I'm hoping for a Hoth or Dagobah version. I doubt they put another Tatooine version since it looks almost exactly like a DS escape version. Watch it will just be a re-carded Jedi Luke.

According to Hasbro the upcoming Han Bespin is all new tooling including the body. DD confirmed that they are not using the barrel chested body for him. It was further confirmed in a Podcast I believe. Of course they say a lot of things but I do not thing the will use this inaccurate version. The jacket is the Endor vest colored blue. Time will tell.

I'm looking forward most to the Rebel Trooper, Aayla (judging by the drawn pictures we saw at SDCC, it should be a great figure), and I wonder what outfit this Luke will have. Hasbro's already (re-)done each of his outfits from all the movies, no? Except for the Dagobah one.

This white snowspeeder outfil Luke should be released as a running change for the tlc snowspeeder Luke, but in orange jumpsuit. Perhaps it is due to the fact, Hasbro is testing heads for the definite versions of esb Lukes.

The Han of the comic pack, looks as a kitbash, very predictable. The figure still shows very thin limbs.

I'm looking forward to all of the figures, and will DEFINITELY be army building the Rebel Trooper. The Rebel doesn't look too much like the Scrambos, which is exactly what I was hoping for. Bom looks badass, especially with that cool looking rifle. Also, is Barriss from the cartoon series? I know the picture is from the cartoon, but the figure doesn't look animated.

Barriss Offee looks okay. This is her first action figure. Yes, something was released years ago, but I'm pretty sure it was a 3 3/4" statue.

Evazan might turn out well...heck, couldn't be worse than the old version.

Bastilla Shan...no idea who that is...reserve judgement on...even though no EU character should be made before Mosep. Or Solomahal for that matter. It's okay if they release Ms. Shan before Reegesk and Tzizvvt, but one them should be in the wave immediately after her.

Is it me, or does that Weequay Skiff Master look overly bulky? Is that supposed to be a part of his design?

Although it's too early to tell so far, Bastilla looks great so far. There's a lot of movement sculpted into the robes, which is a good sign that Hasbro's at least trying to deliver a good sculpt for a Fan's Choice figure.

Rebel fleet trooper... awesome! That's all I can say...

Would have liked Aayla Secura in place of Bariss, but it's also a good sculpt. Her cape looks a tad bulky, probably because of the material, but it's alright, I guess. To answer someone's question above, no, it's not based on her animated appearance, but on her Ep.II appearance.

I'm kind of tied up this weekend, but once I see that the helmet's removable, the holster functions and holds the blaster nicely, that the holster actually connects to the belt, that he isn't goony tall, and that the finer details are all nice and done well, then sure I'll say he's good enough.

As of right now though, I like the articulation, the colors look good, the sculpt looks nice and crisp/up-to-date.

The rest remains to be seen (for sure). After 11 years, i'm hardly going to jump for joy at simply a photo. ;D

Right now, if I have a complaint, it's that the vest is now molded-on and non-removable. Hasbro's gotten away from removable vests and it sucks a bit. I could be wrong again, photo's tough to say, but I'm guessing it's all one piece.

Would have liked Aayla Secura in place of Bariss, but it's also a good sculpt. Her cape looks a tad bulky, probably because of the material, but it's alright, I guess. To answer someone's question above, no, it's not based on her animated appearance, but on her Ep.II appearance.

WOW! Now that's what I want to see! NEW OT figures. See? It's not hard to put a smile on my face.

These look really nice. Weequay is a bit bulky, but after the mazing Wooof, I trust this will look slightly better in person. I think that the rebel's vest is sculpted on so that his collar can go over the vest, which makes sense to me.

Ezavan looks prefect. The gut, the crooked belt, the shirt hanging below the belt. Perfect. Thes are going to be amazing on the cards!

Bastilla Shan...no idea who that is...reserve judgement on...even though no EU character should be made before Mosep. Or Solomahal for that matter. It's okay if they release Ms. Shan before Reegesk and Tzizvvt, but one them should be in the wave immediately after her.

Bastilla Shan is one of the main characters from the Knights of the Old Republic game. I'm really looking forward to that figure!

The RFT looks like it has swivel elbows a opposed to ball and socket. To me that is unacceptable, I hope the picture isn't showing the elbows correctly.

Given Hasbro's obsession with Rebels having facial hair, how much would it suck to get a last minute RFT head change with a goatee?

All of the figures seem a tad... off though. I guess that's what happens when magazines enlarge pics though. Evazan appears to not have articulated knees or ankles, and that's not good. Hopefully that's just because it's the prototype.

These are paint masters ans waxes so I would not worry about the final outcome, the same was said on the ROTJ wave. In terms of articulation just look at the ortho specs Bastialla nd the Dr. have ankle and knee joint articulation. It's work in progress.

I am very excited about all of these figures. It's so nice that so much that needed to be redone is quickly getting taking care off. I was just looking over my collection and really like the fact there is next to nothing left from POTJ down.

Seriously what is up with Hasbro and all of the Rebel beardos? I would have bought so many more Endor Troopers is they were plain clean shaven dudes.

Yeah, I'm 90% sure the elbows are ball/socket joints, they're just odd looking because of the photo in the rag I believe.

As far as the collar and vest, RFT vests are like Han's in that they don't really hide the collar anyway (they were called European Cut Vests or something like that?). So I still say a sculpted-on vest is a step backwards on the figure and a negative, if it turns out that way. It's almost impossible to tell by the photo. So far, it's the only major negative I can see and everything else is looking good, if it is... I doubt it stops me from buying this figure in any quantity though, if everything else holds up.

I can't wait to make a pile into ground combat guys and things. Good times ahead methinks.

Like JACK said, these are hand-painted prototypes, not production figures, and I expect all of them to change. These figures sometimes have joints that have gaps and such. I expect some things to look better and some to look worse on production images.

And clump myself into the, "I hate beards" category on troopers, at this stage. Almost everyone has a stache, goatee, or beard, and Hasbro needs to stop with that stuff for a while.

Bom Vimdin is sweet... Love that freak. He's my last real wish for Cantina aliens. At this point Garrouf Lafoe is my #1 Cantina want.

If the Fleet Trooper is a home run, then my #1 overall want is a tough choice at this point. I've spent 20+ years wishing Hasbro would do a decent Fleet Trooper... I'm expecting this one to be just that. You never know when you're getting dealt a "30AC Death Star Trooper" type situation though. It's kinda cool, but has lots of glaring flaws as well.

I like the way weequay skiff guy and rebel fleet trooper are depicted. For rebel fleet trooper it looks at last we will have a version which can handle the blaster with both hands.

Bastilla is great, cool evolution for a female body! I am not sure if she has knee joints, it seems they are only at elbow level. But if so, her legs are built the most naturally possible for the current action figures` technology.

I realize these are prototype images yet. But... is it just me, or does it look like they just used Indiana Jones legs & feet for the Weequay?

Those legs do look familiar. They're not any IJ figures that I can see. Many of the have more wrinkles on the legs. From a quick glance at my figures though, they look like the Rebel Ceremonial Guard's legs.

I take apart at least one of each figure for customs and pay pretty close attention to parts, and while they do look similar to that Rebel and Lando, I think the legs are new... could be wrong of course because they do look really similar to the Rebel Honor Guard.

I take apart at least one of each figure for customs and pay pretty close attention to parts, and while they do look similar to that Rebel and Lando, I think the legs are new... could be wrong of course because they do look really similar to the Rebel Honor Guard.

These legs are all new. Chewie is correct, I just tore apart a Rebel honor guard and Lando. You can clearly see this will be all new tooling. The only thing that looks reused is the Vibroaxe, Lightsaber and the Fleet Trooper gun.

Is the Fleet Trooper's helmet possibly articulated at the visor? I'm wondering if it clips down and up? It looks separate at the visor portion now that I see this better scan.

The more I look at the vest, the less I believe it's removable. The collar area makes me think it might be though, and I still hope it is.

Something about the tip of his blaster pistol really looks different from the current sculpt... I'd love to see more of this figure.

On Bom Vimdin, his thigh-strap on his holster seems to be either broken, or like it clips to the thigh and unclips if you want it to. This freak was my most wanted Cantina alien, so seeing him get done is great. I love the species, the weirdness of it... That he comes with a rifle accessory is cool too. Kind of reminds me of POTF2 when figures almost always sported two accessories, even if one was completely goofy and unnecessary.

The more I look at the Weequay Skiff Master, the more I think he'd look less "poofy" if his arms were at his side like the reference pic of him below. I think that's going to be an outstanding figure as well. He always makes wishlists, and he's made the JD wishlist often, as has Bom Vimdin and the Fleet Trooper.

I like Barriss Offee a lot... I heard some folks weren't happy, but to me she's great, and a much-needed AOTC resculpt. Besides Pablo Jill, Hasbro has done all the Arena Jedi over again pretty much... Unless you count the Twi Lek and Human from the 3-pack... Oh, and the two Nikto I guess count as well, I almost forgot them. I'd really like them redone, then maybe the Twi Lek and Human would be nice since they did go to the Rodian recently, and give us a cool one of that character too.

I can't wait for Dr. E. as well... Bastilla's cool, but I've had a "redone" Dr. E. on my shelf for years, since his POTF2 figure came out, and I wanted to fix his goofy stance. Hasbro even got his less than flattering physique down pretty good too.

I wonder if they'll be able to do the deco of his leather vest right though? The POTF2 figure's vest had a marbled look to the plastic, which was neat. I hope they're able to do something similar on the resculpt.

Echoing others....thanks for the pics Scott. I think everything looks pretty great too. Nice to (finally) get a real nice version of a primary Rebel army builder like that. I think that Bom Vimdin is my favorite of what we've seen so far though, just really cool. Like many others, he was top of my Cantina list as well, and it looks like they really hit it out of the park here. Weequay and Barriss are welcome too, looks like some really nice stuff there.

Thanks Scott, seeing the details better makes this wave that much better. I really cannot wait to see the Feb Toy Fair SW showing after seeing this. There are so many characters that I want redone, it's amazing how Hasbro is hitting homeruns with every figure they make now. Wave 5 is more forgivable.

A nice rumor list, but as usual, a huge grain of salt. Personally, a new Taun Taun is one of my biggest wants from the line, so I hope that does pan out eventually (although Empire's anniversary would have been the perfect time for that). Same goes for the Speeder Bike, I'd love to see a new version of that (hopefully with a flight stand of some sort as well). I'd be all for a "BMF" Sandcrawler, but I'd be really surprised if we saw that. The last version (which I regrettably missed) I believe got clearanced out when it started out at like $60, right? It would sure be neat though, and I'd definitely pick one up.

I think a BMF Sandcrawler is not...too out of the question. It's a very good playset, and features heavily in the Lego Star Wars game, so it has a chance.

Too bad they didn't do that during build a droid, and you could set up inside.

Who knows, maybe they will take adavantage of all the BAD parts, and use them as pack in stuff.

It could also have some sort of hidden gun, or winch, or crane or something, for play value. Plus lots of hatches and stairs and play spaces. It could even have some sort of Mini-Rig that rolls out like the BMF's life pod thingy. The more I think about it, the more I think it could be super cool.

Let me just say that if the Speederbike happens, then Jedi Defender claims responsibility for it... Not really a rumor that just materialized. ;)

We asked Hasbro about it years ago, including a stand for it to "float", in one of the Q&A's. I'm sure it's in the archive here because it was oooolllllddddd, and Hasbro was receptive to the idea.

So basically that one's been rumored for probably two years now. I forget the exact date off-hand, but I do know we were the first to make inquiries about it because I'm so bitchy about scale. And I suppose anyone could slap it onto a "rumor list" and claim they magically predicted it too, I dunno. But I do know it's been on Hasbro's radar for some time. Hell, I think at least two other sites after us wound up asking the same basic question then in more recent Q&A's!

Let me just say that if the Speederbike happens, then Jedi Defender claims responsibility for it... Not really a rumor that just materialized. ;)

We asked Hasbro about it years ago, including a stand for it to "float", in one of the Q&A's. I'm sure it's in the archive here because it was oooolllllddddd, and Hasbro was receptive to the idea.

As long as I don't have to pay $21.99 at TRU for a new Speederbike...Well the dlx line is still too expensive at Target/WM even. MUST HAVE though. $9.99 is a pipedream....so long good ol dlx pricepoint.

That said, it's hard to take anything Stan says seriously. His track record is iffy and I could put together a list at this point and be 25% right all of the time. The options for Hasbro are that limited.

A new Sandcrawler would have to incorporate a whole lot of play features in order for Hasbro to take the plunge on that. The one area where I think it could POSSIBLY be viable? Perhaps if they did it as an R/C vehicle with working treads they might capitalize on what they've tried with the R/C Hailfire droid. The Kenner vintage Sandcrawler was an R/C vehicle and perhaps Hasbro would want to go in that direction for a Vintage Collection exclusive vehicle. But that seems like a bit of a stretch.

As for the other rumors? A new tauntaun has been rumored for some time. Will it happen? I don't know, but Hasbro seems to be favoring TESB in a big way. But indications have been that recent creature offerings didn't perform as well as Hasbro might have liked. The orray seems less likely, especially since it's only the Geonosians that use them. Is it possible that the orray may have been confused with a kaadu, since Captain Tarpals is also on this list? It certainly seems like a possibility.

The speeder bike seems like a no-brainer. And I seem to recall that Hasbro MAY have stated in a Q&A session that they might have located the Saga/Clone Wars speeder bike tool which has been favored by a number of collectors. And with the Deluxe figure & vehicle packs I think this could be a real possibility.

We also got a Bespin Guard, C-3PO with removable limbs and R2 with Periscope. And I think the new Yoda is SA.

But honestly, at this point there's not a limitless list of figures that need to be done, so it's not hard to come up with a rumor list and have a bunch of them be accurate.

I have to say though, I really doubt there will be a big sandcrawler made. It would be cool (since I have a bucket of droids that don't really fit in any particular scene, and need a place to be displayed), but I just can't see it happening. I could see Hasbro going with the sail barge instead, since at least a battle happens on it.

The only way I can fathom a Sandcrawler happening is as a "Droid Factory" type set since Hasbro's mentioned that as an idea they wanted to get to. I could see them wanting to make it a "rolling" vehicle type deal rather than a playset, and so that whole concept could play out I guess. But they said this year's big item would be under $100 and Clone Wars related, so that really has nothing to do with a Sandcrawler it seems.

I think they kind of blew it on that though, since BAD's done too. They wouldn't try that in a non-BAD year I'd wager. BAD could always come back of course, and this happens then. It'd have a little more credence I think. But as far as Hasbro's concerned, BAD didn't really drive sales since the line wasn't doing well since 2008... I doubt BAD comes back in any grand capacity.

And I seem to recall that Hasbro MAY have stated in a Q&A session that they might have located the Saga/Clone Wars speeder bike tool which has been favored by a number of collectors.

They definitely found it, as they've used the mold twice in the last year: once on the Clone Wars Plo Koon deluxe set (which used the modified version with the removable firing cannon from the 2003 Clone Wars line) and with the AT-AT's speeder bike, which uses the original 2002 mold.

For the tvc Sandcrawler (bmf style) more room and better proportion of the computers inside.Lights on front and on top in the cockpit area (perhaps seats for 4 jawas)Sounds, movie phrases (ok, they always do)Two jawas included, perhaps kitbashes; desirable the towering jawa for variation.

So, I saw somewhere that the current rumor is the next bog vehicle with have gun rack, troop compartments, etc. Is it possible that we are getting a new rebel troop transport rather then a sandcrawler? It would convert into a good playset as well.

Yeah, I saw that rumor. What a worthless rumor. That is the basic description for EVERY large vehicle. Name a large vehicle that doesn't contain those attributes! I've got a rumor for the otheR Site to put on their front page: Next year, Hasbro will be releasing several action figures. These action figures will span the entire SW Saga; some of accessories will include robes, lightsabers, blasters, and stands . . . care to guess what they might be? See, I graduted from the school of making **** up too.

Yeah, I saw that rumor. What a worthless rumor. That is the basic description for EVERY large vehicle. Name a large vehicle that doesn't contain those attributes! I've got a rumor for the otheR Site to put on their front page: Next year, Hasbro will be releasing several action figures. These action figures will span the entire SW Saga; some of accessories will include robes, lightsabers, blasters, and stands . . . care to guess what they might be? See, I graduated from the school of making **** up too.

Yeah, I saw that rumor. What a worthless rumor. That is the basic description for EVERY large vehicle. Name a large vehicle that doesn't contain those attributes! I've got a rumor for the otheR Site to put on their front page: Next year, Hasbro will be releasing several action figures. These action figures will span the entire SW Saga; some of accessories will include robes, lightsabers, blasters, and stands . . . care to guess what they might be? See, I graduated from the school of making **** up too.

That's the most plausible rumour going.

Biffette pretty much summed up my evaluation on RS's wonderful Intel. Is the hobby that desperate for news that this kind of "information" suffices for their front page post? This same speculation was going on already in their "Big One" forum thread. It's really pathetic, they should be called out on this as pointed out by Biffette.

Now if the news came from STAN (Someone Telling Alleged News) then I would believe it to be true....

I had heard at one point that the Sail Barge was on the short list, and even in the modeling phase, but this rumor seems to indicate it could be something cooler. It's be awesome if they take the Clone Wars Attack Shuttle route and do a new Imperial Shuttle. But a Blockade Runner would be cool too.

Darth Anton statement is right on the money on which BMF it is!Sandcrawler its not, but when timing is right. Hasbro hinted in mOst recent Q and A about upcoming new fodder: Yarvin Ceremony Figures. It's same format as toy r us exclusives Battle of Endor Paks

Yeah, I saw that rumor. What a worthless rumor. That is the basic description for EVERY large vehicle. Name a large vehicle that doesn't contain those attributes! I've got a rumor for the otheR Site to put on their front page: Next year, Hasbro will be releasing several action figures. These action figures will span the entire SW Saga; some of accessories will include robes, lightsabers, blasters, and stands . . . care to guess what they might be? See, I graduted from the school of making **** up too.

Here's thinking outside the box...It's a Rebel Troop Transport. But the top opens up to reveal what looks like the control room in Echo Base...and has a nice open inside for storage and play. It could be a very cool vehicle/toy.

According to the report, this updated BMF-style vehicle will double as a playset and will include lights, sounds, weapon racks, cargo areas, opening cockpits, troop holders!

There are only a handful of vehicles that come to mind that might include these features.

-Imperial Shuttle-Imperial Landing Craft-Rebel Transport

Out of the three I think there's only one solid contender. The Landing Craft only appears briefly in the Special Edition of A NEW HOPE. Even though it's got that Imperial tie-in that might make it seem like a contender, and it could have a lot of potential action features, I have to think that it's incredibly limited screen time DOOMS the Imperial Landing craft.

And on numerous occassions in Q&A sessions with Hasbro they have explicitly stated that the Rebel Transport is NOT happening. Don't believe me? READ (http://www.jeditemplewarroom.com/forum/index.php?topic=2797.msg38236#msg38236). Either Hasbro has been planning a Rebel Transport and gleefully lying to the collecting community, or they had a huge change of heart if this is going to happen. In this case I take Hasbro at their word. The Rebel Transport is a cool vintage find, but would probably make a terrible modern vehicle.

A revamped Imperial Shuttle is the only vehicle that makes sense to me. It's got a proven track record at retail, but the modern releases have been based on a 1983 vintage toy. And the interior of that vintage vehicle (and the modern re-releases) has always been kind of lame. Especially when you compare it to the BMF Falcon and AT-AT. Plus, it features significantly in ROTJ with Vader, the Emporer and our Rebel friends.

And on numerous occassions in Q&A sessions with Hasbro they have explicitly stated that the Rebel Transport is NOT happening. Don't believe me? READ (http://www.jeditemplewarroom.com/forum/index.php?topic=2797.msg38236#msg38236).

They said the same about the Cloud Car (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbros_55th_STAR_WARS_QA_The_Answers_115099.asp).

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Rebelscum: In various replies by Hasbro we received several times the answer that the Cloud Car would not look "agressive enough" to be a success.

Hasbro: Compared to all other vehicles we could do, we feel that the Cloud Car is visually uninteresting, has the least on-screen action, and would be perceived as the most boring (i.e. not aggressive looking) to boys compared to anything else we could do. The Twin Pod Cloud Car is probably the vintage vehicle that is the most plentiful and can be made the cheapest as well. You can pick them up for $15 and under - much less than the price we'd need to command for a new one.

And on numerous occassions in Q&A sessions with Hasbro they have explicitly stated that the Rebel Transport is NOT happening. Don't believe me? READ (http://www.jeditemplewarroom.com/forum/index.php?topic=2797.msg38236#msg38236).

They said the same about the Cloud Car (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbros_55th_STAR_WARS_QA_The_Answers_115099.asp).

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Rebelscum: In various replies by Hasbro we received several times the answer that the Cloud Car would not look "agressive enough" to be a success.

Hasbro: Compared to all other vehicles we could do, we feel that the Cloud Car is visually uninteresting, has the least on-screen action, and would be perceived as the most boring (i.e. not aggressive looking) to boys compared to anything else we could do. The Twin Pod Cloud Car is probably the vintage vehicle that is the most plentiful and can be made the cheapest as well. You can pick them up for $15 and under - much less than the price we'd need to command for a new one.

So you think they might be doing a Rebel Transport rope-a-dope? We'll see. The only think from the RS rumor that would lead me to even give it a glimmer of hope was the word "cockpits" in their report.

I think the Imperial Shuttle might have a much better chance. I bet someone like Mark Boudreaux has been chomping at the bit to revisit the cockpit of that vehicle alone, since the vintage one really does suck. And in light of what he was able to do with the BMF Falcon's cockpit I could see them going all out on a new shuttle.

I wouldn't be shocked at that... At this point I don't rule anything out on Hasbro's part. They've double-backed on a bit of stuff they'd denied at one point or another. And the "rumor" is so vague, it could apply to just about anything they ultimately would do, as well. You could apply it to a Sandcrawler or Sailbarge if you wanted to.

I cannot see the Imperial Shuttle next up on the list. We are getting the CW Attack Shuttle this year and the Imp one seems too similar to do back to back.

I think it will be the Sailbarge/Jabba Palace despite the Hasbro's denial. If there is any truth behind the RS report the next big one is from the OTC and opens up into a playset. I can see them doing the Sailbarge that also doubles as the Palace. A lot of action takes place around the Palace and Sailbarge. Both did appear in the CW cartoon as well, which does help There is a lot of hype around the Blueray DVD with the Luke cave scene and rumors are buzzing that the Sandstorm scene is going to be added as well.

Hmmm...Blockade Runner might have a chance. While it will be underscaled, it could still be a very cool toy. Aside from the Falcon, all the BMF vehicles have been Imperial type things (clones included)

I couldn't discern that from Hasbro's response either. The way it was phrased I would think Bespin Gown, especially since that figure was part of the original vintage line. But personally I would prefer a new Bespin Escape / Carbon Freeze Chamber Leia. The POTJ figure is totally dated, especially with the pre-posed nature of that figure.

I would rather have a nice ANH Leia. They have never really made of those that has satisfied me. I agree a Leia Bespin Escape is preferred over Leia Bespin Gown. However, I will buy her for that cardback being partial to anything on an OT cardback :)

I'd like to see a Bespin Escape Leia in the Vintage line... save the Dinner Gown resculpt for if they ever decide to bring back the Evolutions sets (preferably with Yavin Ceremony, Bespin Gown and Ewok Gown Leias)

As for the rest... can't begin to tell you how excited I am for Tarkin

coupel weeks ago I was playing the sarlac battle, and was telling the old lady that I would like a new Skiff lando and Jedi luke, then the Q&A said we were getiing essentially that with the deleted scene figures, then when I told her about that coincidink, she asked who else I would like to see and I responded with Tarken and Bespin leie now they are announced..so if this spell is still working, should I pontificate a Tonnika sister with her?

coupel weeks ago I was playing the sarlac battle, and was telling the old lady that I would like a new Skiff lando and Jedi luke, then the Q&A said we were getiing essentially that with the deleted scene figures, then when I told her about that coincidink, she asked who else I would like to see and I responded with Tarken and Bespin leie now they are announced..so if this spell is still working, should I pontificate a Tonnika sister with her?

Raises hand. I did. :) Actually most collectors were bitching up a storm when the animated line was announced, instead of realistic, as I recall. I like the toon, but don't like what ammounts to a completely separate line of figures, so I'm all for realistic. I don't need everything from the cartoon made though... Mains and Clones, maybe some battledroid redecoes, and I'm pretty happy.

Guys like Whorm Loathsome would be ok, but not necessary. Super background Jedi, again ok, and they've got a lot of bodies available to do them I guess, but not necessary. I would like to see a Clone Officer in the grey uniforms though.

While initially I was one of those folks who hated the idea of an animated line. I've actually warmed up to it quite a bit and even though I predicted this would one day happen, I'm kinda hoping they keep the number of characters made in the realistic style to a minimum - maybe Anakin, Obi-Wan, Ashoka, Rex and Cad Bane and that's it.

I'd love to get a few of those IG-86 droids...and I like the idea of the clone officers, and possibly some other republic officer types.

I just don't want it to turn into another clone-fest...I feel like we have that already. Heroes, yeah, but generic clones are getting a bit boring. I'd rather have some alien characters, some new Mandolorians (not using the same Boba Fett body) and possibly different Sep droids. Those battle droid commandos are kind of cool.

I am actually very excited about some realistic CW figures. I was in that camp that was pissed at the animated figure direction. I really believe that hurt the line and not help. If they were realistic I think it would have brought in some more kids on the mainline. Guys like me who buy most items has only purchased a handful of animated figures most for their accessories, they lost a lot of money with me. Spilled milk now but I am glad they see the writing on the wall and are addressing the market. After the main characters I do not mind seeing some Clone repaints (Echo, Fives) and repaints of Mandos using some Boba/Jango parts in exclusive sets. I agree there are some great aliens to tap into that would be better than repaints. I am all in on this on what they offer.

I always prefer anything OT over all prequel stuff but if it's realistic I am in.

I was against animated figures at the beginning too, but I started warming up to the animated line last year when I got the CW Season 1 DVD and realized that they were making great figures of some pretty cool characters. Picked up my first set of figures when stores were clearancing them out for $4.50. I mainly have stuck to villains and other characters that aren't seen in any of the movies, but I have started to pick up some of the newer, SA versions of the main characters.

And there's where I get nervous. I don't want to see realistic versions of the main characters. I have a very bad feeling this is going to be Hasbro's excuse to put out more Anakins, Obi-Wans and Greviouses. I'm totally willing to buy realistic versions of cartoon exclusive characters though, mainly Asoka, Rex and any other villains (like Cad Bane, Pre Vizsla, that Tarantula Separatist Commander, etc.). Maybe the Mon Calamari Jedi they did the mail away for. Point is, if there are any "NEW SHIN ARMOR" versions of Obi-Wan or Anakin, or any "new" versions of Grevious, I'm not buying. We already have enough versions of them clogging the pegs. If Hasbro wants to put Clones in this wave, put the Wave 6 AOTC Clone on a new card. No Yodas or R2-D2s.

The thing is, they're always looking for new ways to put Obi-Wan and Anakin out... That's just life with the line be it Clone Wars, or realistic. The main characters need new life, and if Realistic Clone Wars designs are the direction, what's wrong with that?

Anakin's actually pretty significantly different... Obi-Wan's not terribly different from his ROTS look aside from the armor bits of course, but still... Hey, it's a "new" look for a main character Hasbro is going to try to put out anyway. I'd rather have that than ROTS Obi-Wan, again (unless he's got battle damage from Mustafar, of course :-X).

The line can't survive on Yarna and Cantina Alien #50, and likewise it can't survive on only realistic Ahsoka or Rex plugged in for Clone Wars. I think Obi/Ani are inevitable. Without them (and remakes and reissues like them), ultimately the toy line isn't going to continue in any capacity. At least it'll be something new then.

And right now there's no cancellation of animated... Though I could see them folding the lines together. I think Hasbro's partially seen the "competition" between the realistic and animated at this point, and that forcing kids in one direction may be healthier for the line overall.

And right now there's no cancellation of animated... Though I could see them folding the lines together. I think Hasbro's partially seen the "competition" between the realistic and animated at this point, and that forcing kids in one direction may be healthier for the line overall.

Healthier for which line though? Sounds to me like that only help boost the lagging realistic sales. The animated stuff sells fine already, I don't think that line needs to be folded into anything. If it ain't broke don't fix it, kind of a thought here.

If they fold anything it should be TVC and Legends. If there is competition on the pegs it is worse between those two, what with all their overlap of Clone Troopers, Obis, Anis, etc.

And they sure as hell better not make Admiral Trench in a realistic style before they do his proper animated figure first! :)

Trench! I forgot about him. If Kenner had the line we'd have him in a heartbeat. They loved the freaky looking figs.

It's funny, if they announced at the end of this year that they weren't making more realistic figures I would be totally fine with that. Don't know why.

As mentioned above, I do think that could do very well with some OT figures in the animated style. I believe (but have no proof) that many of the long term collectors started with the OT, and it is closer to them. Some, who normally wouldn't buy CW figures, would certainly buy a new Luke and company in a new style.

It depends how you look at the line... Hasbro still looks at the realistic line as the anchor, and Clone Wars as a kids line. I'd say they view it like Collection 1 and 2, but the unanticipated reaction has been competition. Realistic has lagged since animated started because animated, geared at the kids, is getting a lot of the sales.

So yes, it's helping realistic back, but if realistic is where you feel you're anchored (since the movies, not the cartoon, are the anchor of Star Wars), then yes I can easily see Hasbro moving away from animated to get kids back into realistic.

Right now though, I've heard realistic AND animated aren't exactly the hottest, and that Star Wars in general is slumping... So they may feel it's time to tone things down in terms of diversity.

I don't think they will now, I'm just saying, I think it will happen at some point.

It is hard to believe that sales are slumping when I have not even been able to find some of the figures in the wild. If numbers are down I would point the finger at production and distribution. As far as the combination of the lines, it it only good business to lead the group of kids that started collecting with CW to start buying some realistic. With the movies coming out in 3D this is the chance to take the group they cultivated with the CW and expand them into the entire line. It makes business sense for Hasbro. I hope it works, because in the end that is good for all of us.

Yeah, I'm not sure how to judge the sales. They seem down to me across the board as well, but it is always tough to tell. The Vintage stuff (and new CW stuff) seems to sell through pretty quick (like instantly) when it does hit, but some stores are just sitting on old stuff. In my area, TRU has had the same stuff (primarily CW Obi-Wans and a few others, and just a couple Dengars/4-LOMS on the vintage side), WM has had all of their SW pegs jammed full for months and months with all the same stuff. Tons of CW (although nothing super recent), tons of TVC (but only Sandtrooper and ROTS Clone), and some Legends mixed in with the CW. Target has been better of late, as I've seen cases of TVC Wave 6 come in several times in the past few weeks. The CW section only has two Shaak Ti figures hanging out, and just a few Legends figures as well. Actually - surprisingly - all the stores are somewhat devoid of the Legends line. I mean, there are always some of course, but not as much as you'd expect.

I'm another one that would have liked seeing the CW line be realistic from the start, but at the same time I can understand why they went animated (and I do like the figures, its been a pretty good line). Although I do still think it sells, I don't think it has the "heat" it once did, which is typical of today's kiddos I think. It used to be, particularly in that first year or two, you couldn't even find a CW figure - especially around the holidays. These days it seems to have slowed some - but not completely. I'm always a fan of a more simple approach, so I look forward to the days when we could hopefully just have one Star Wars line again. It may not ever happen, as times have changed a bit, but I think it might help things overall sales-wise and maybe even distribution wise. We obviously won't see that change until the CW series is over, which is understandable, but I guess I just like the cleaner "one line" approach.

I don't know how to judge sales either especially since I have not seen much of anything new since wave 3. I am just not there are the right times but they are basically gone once a wave hits it seems like. I do not know if it's because the stores just get 2 cases in or what? The Clone Wars stuff seems to always be on the pegs but they rotate in the new waves well. So, I assume the CW sells better overall.

It seems to me both lines hold up well to the constant barage of competition each year from new films. I am sure Transformers will kick SW's but when the movie comes out. However that might only last through X-Mas. SW will still be around next year while Thor, Green Lantern, and Captain America will probably all be on clearance.

why doesnt ANYONE EVERY Clearence anything anymore? that would take care of a lot of the problem of crap case assortments and brain damaged marketing types.

Beats me... when I moved to Chicago I found it difficult to look for stuff in stores (none nearby). I got all excited because a Target opened up near me about a year ago. But for the last 5 or so months they've had nothing but a handful of Cloud Car pilots and 4-LOM's. No exaggeration, they haven't gotten a new Vintage figure in at least 5 months.

why doesnt ANYONE EVERY Clearence anything anymore? that would take care of a lot of the problem of crap case assortments and brain damaged marketing types.

Beats me... when I moved to Chicago I found it difficult to look for stuff in stores (none nearby). I got all excited because a Target opened up near me about a year ago. But for the last 5 or so months they've had nothing but a handful of Cloud Car pilots and 4-LOM's. No exaggeration, they haven't gotten a new Vintage figure in at least 5 months.

I see very much the same thing by me. Some stores have had nothing but the leftovers from that first TESB wave of the Vintage Collection for months on end. And when I stop by in the hopes that things may have changed, nothing. It almost seems that if anything IS arriving at those stores it is in such insignificant quantities that 1 or 2 collectors could snatch up everything from a restock of a single case of TVC figures and nobody else would ever know the difference.

Believe me, you are right. I walked into TRU today and found the entire wave 7, plus Jango. I bought them all. I only left a few older figs on the pegs. The next shopper will have no choice at all. The quantities are nuts. But the quality is way up. What a great wave!

Am I missing something? Or is that 8 number gaps and 5 figures... sure seems like something is going on that we don't know about yet... also confirms the signs of some things definitely being moved around on the schedule.

What about the 'mini' Salacious and Mouse Droid figures from the SDCC Exclusive Revenge Wheel? Maybe the are actually a part fo the numbering system? But that would still only account for 2 out of 3 of the extra open spots...

They did have some issues with the numbering system with the 2003-2004 SAGA line, I suppose something like that could have happened again and we'll just see some repack figures that get the extra numbers.

This is what I thought as well - that every carded figure in the Death Star SDCC set would also be getting released in Vintage figure assortments. So the exclusive really only gets you the DS2 packaging and the two mini-figures. Everything else will be available at retail.

So that means, is the Endor Capture Luke w/Revenge of the Jedi on the front still going to be VC23? Or is he going to have a new number? Same thing goes with Wicket, Ackbar, Rebel Commando, Darth Vader, Boba Fett, Bar2-D2 and the Stormtrooper - same numbers as before or all new?

There are exactly eight blanks in your numbering so my guess would be that they are indeed getting new numbers.

I can't see them renumbering the Revenge figures just to fill in the blanks. There has got to be some leap frogging of numbers that is going on like what happened with Wedge and Yoda. I can see Tarkin, TPM characters and other rumored figures eventually filling in the spots now that it seems they're going with the 3 new figures per case game and filling the rest with carry-forwards and "Revenge" chasers.

Maybe they are going to sneak into this year's assortment. These plus the other five Jeff mentioned would make up the eight missing spots in the order. I highly doubt repacked "Revenge" variants would get a new number. UGH, First Day of Issue and the like were all just packaging variations that had the same numbers as the regular versions. Why would the 'Revenge' figures be any different?

The more I think about it, the more it seems obvious that the "missing" 8 figures are the five figures from what should have been "Wave 8" and then probably the three figures that would have filled out Wave 9, but were bumped in favor of more "Revenge" repacks.

This has a little more creedence than a rumor: Check out this JTA Q&A session with Hasbro (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=8246). Notably, this part from Hasbro:

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Hasbro: We agree there are still some holes left to fill in the Vintage Collection. By the end of 2012 some of these gaps will be filled, with, for instance, figures like Lumat

What about the 'mini' Salacious and Mouse Droid figures from the SDCC Exclusive Revenge Wheel? Maybe the are actually a part fo the numbering system? But that would still only account for 2 out of 3 of the extra open spots...

As it turns out, Ryan was spot-on....

From the description on HTS re: the Death Star Revenge of the Jedi set:

VC66 SALACIOUS CRUMB - exclusive to the Death StarVC67 MOUSE DROID - exclusive to the Death Star

And since they are part of the numbering system, I'd bet good money that they will turn up again in some fashion. Perhaps not as part of the Revenge Death Star set, but perhaps as a different exclusive for another show. New York Comic Con perhaps?

Maybe a 2-pack deal like they did with the Vintage Kenner deco 4-LOM and Zuckass. Only this time, have the two little guys on "Return of the Jedi" cardbacks.

I'm actually surprised/shocked, that these two little guys aren't VCP04 and VCP05 - that's what they should be - with the White Outfit Fett being VCP06.

Otherwise, what is the point of the VCP## designations?

This is going to be one of those situations where the holes in numbers of folks' collections is going to push them in the direction of making some more of the vintage carded Mouse Droid and Salacious Crumb.

One of the things that leads me to believe that this will happen is that I had always thought that Endor Han, Slave Leia, TIE Fighter Pilot and B-Wing Pilot were all going to be released on "Revenge of the Jedi" cardbacks in the Wave 8 assortments.

But based on the panel and some news I read on various sites, unless I misunderstood, it looks like if you find a B-Wing pilot case (for example), you have just as much chance of getting him on a "Return of the Jedi" cardback as you do getting him on a "Revenge of the Jedi" cardback. So if you can get Leia, Endor Han, TIE Pilot and B-Wing Pilot on "Return" cards, why not have an outlet for getting the Mouse Droid and Salacious Crumb on "Return" cards?

In some other fashion - perhaps both the little guys will be released as a NYCC exclusives on "Return of the Jedi" cardbacks.

Since VC62 - VC65 are supposedly going to be released on BOTH "Revenge" and "Return" cardbacks in the Wave 8 and Wave 9 assortments, someone could focus on just getting the figures on "Return" cards since that IS what the movie was called. The "Revenge" stuff could just end up being extremely limited packaging variants. :-\

Lots of "Vintage" in there - more kenner box repacks? (Cloud Car? X-Wing? Vader's TIE?). Or maybe nice "generic" ID's for what will turn out to the Search for Luke Taun-Taun BP or something... I'm guessing we'll get a little more to all this at NYCC.

Also, that "Villians and Sith" has me wondering if that is supposed to be some "bad guy" version of the old Order 66 sets - instead of a Jedi and a Clone, you get a Sith and a separatist? Or maybe this year's version of the exclusive carded CW 2-packs they've had in the past or something.

I was talking about this with Derryl DePriest at SDCC a couple of years back, and he agreed that it had been a while since the N-1 starfighter had been available. We talked about the possibility of one in blue deco since it appears that way in a video game, but that seemed like a non-starter. And the notion of doing vac-metal was discussed too. But that might be too costly of a process to do for a vehicle, especially since it's not the whole vehicle. Doing vac metal parts can be tricky. I don't remember if we talked about a functional droid socket, but the fuselage of the N-1 makes it kind of prohibitive.

I am thinking that one of those vintage vehicles is the Naboo Starfighter. I am a feeling.

Considering that they have all-but already confirmed a new Naboo Starfighter for the E1 stuff, I wouldn't be surprised either. :P

From a recent Q&A session at Imperial Shipyards (http://www.imperialshipyards.net/SMF/index.php?topic=192.msg115088#msg115088):

"Yes, Episode I in 3-D allows for a number of favorite vehicles to be added to the line. Sadly, the Royal Starship and Emperor's Shuttle did not make the list. But we think fans will be pleased with the line-up which includes a 100% newly tooled iconic vehicle. We would be sharing too much information if we were to say that it is a yellow starfighter that rhymes with shampoo."

The Episode I line is probably how Hasbro is going to introduce the brown/green repaint of the current incarnation of the Vulture Droid. Hasbro did say a while back that they would be repainting the Super Vulture Droid in Episode I era deco.

Vac-Metal/Electro-plating isn't cheap, and doesn't work on all plastic types, so I'd REALLY be surprised if they were even considering a vac-metaled Royal Starship. Just my $.02 on that... I could see a re-issue, maybe a better more shiney paint/deco on it or something, but Vac-Metal doesn't seem likely.

Another potential Episode I vehicle reissue: the Sith Infiltrator. It hasn't been on shelves since 2008, and that might have been enough of a break for Hasbro to consider giving it another go 'round.

As much as I'd like to see the Sith Infiltrator given the BMF vehicle treatment, I think they will probably want to try getting more mileage out of the existing Sith Infiltrator tooling. But the flipside is if Hasbro doesn't upgrade the Sith Infiltrator now, will they ever do it?

Don't want to post this with its own thread yet, though if the powers that be want to they can.

Anyway, if you hate Jar Jar binks, the JD Front Page (http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1316492996,75878,) has bad news for you, and 2012. :-X

That's it. I'm done collecting if they are going to make the first new movie Jar Jar Binks since 2002. Of all the characters they could make or remake for the Episode 1 rerelease, they are going to make one of the lead characters who had a lot of screen time and hasn't been updated in 10 years?

In the most recent Rebelscum Force Cast Collector Edition (Sept 2011), DePriest mentioned that they have a Nightsister called Mighella sculpted, and she could be released in the vintage line. I'd be happy to welcome any Nightsister, whether it be realistic or animated, but I figured we'd see Mother Talzin first.

I'd buy a Nightsister...not sure why they wouldn't make one for CW too though

Well, exactly! What the hell? They are so hung up on "core characters" let them stick with those. If they put out cool characters in a realistic style that have NOT been done in the animated style, well that just utterly sucks.

Animated first, realistic next. Don't deprive fans of the animated line great character choices for the sake of marketing.

I kind of like the idea that, if they're going to do more "sub characters" from TCW that they figure kids aren't as interested in, then realistic does maybe make a little more sense... That's just me though maybe. I like the strategy though. I mean, would Yularren have tanked as badly had he been a realistic figure? I tend to think not... He probably wouldn't have been great, but with your core purchasers being kids, the "old guy with a table and brostache" probably would've just done better if he were not in the animated style. I know I'd have probably army built him to a slight degree. Hell, I got a few for the table on clearance. Realistic, I'd have probably bought a few just to swap some Clone heads onto him even, and make realistic Clone Naval Officers.

I think of other figures I DID pass on though, since animated isn't my cup of tea, and I'd have gladly bought if they were done realistically. The little scottish underbite alien general from TCW Movie for instance... Cato Parasitti is everywhere here right now, but also strikes me as one I'd have gone for if done realistically (I got one cheap for customizing, but wouldnt' pay full price for her). I'd buy a realistic Satine before I'd even remotely consider an animated figure. Kids wouldn't care about her, but if she fits in with the movie figures, then I do I guess. I just figure "I" am maybe what Hasbro's aiming for.

I kind of like the idea that, if they're going to do more "sub characters" from TCW that they figure kids aren't as interested in, then realistic does maybe make a little more sense... That's just me though maybe. I like the strategy though. I mean, would Yularren have tanked as badly had he been a realistic figure? I tend to think not... He probably wouldn't have been great, but with your core purchasers being kids, the "old guy with a table and brostache" probably would've just done better if he were not in the animated style. I know I'd have probably army built him to a slight degree. Hell, I got a few for the table on clearance. Realistic, I'd have probably bought a few just to swap some Clone heads onto him even, and make realistic Clone Naval Officers.

I think of other figures I DID pass on though, since animated isn't my cup of tea, and I'd have gladly bought if they were done realistically. The little scottish underbite alien general from TCW Movie for instance... Cato Parasitti is everywhere here right now, but also strikes me as one I'd have gone for if done realistically (I got one cheap for customizing, but wouldnt' pay full price for her). I'd buy a realistic Satine before I'd even remotely consider an animated figure. Kids wouldn't care about her, but if she fits in with the movie figures, then I do I guess. I just figure "I" am maybe what Hasbro's aiming for.

You're not alone on this Jesse - if realistic is how we get a Satine, then I'm totally okay with that, same thing goes with the Nightsisters. Same thing goes with Yularen - if he had been realistic, then I would have totally used him to make a few Clonetrooper Naval Officer headswaps - had thought about doing that with the animated one, but the damn figure is so damn skinny it just looks ridiculous so I never bothered.

A realistic Yularren makes me think about all the random "That makes sense" headswaps I would've done too... I could have seen Dodonna as a Republic Officer. I'd have maybe swapped on a Tarkin head too since I like the idea of him as a young officer and stuff too from the finale last season. A couple random generics would've been nice too since I envision a pretty good number of sentient guys who were in the Republic military prior to the war.

I kind of like the idea that, if they're going to do more "sub characters" from TCW that they figure kids aren't as interested in, then realistic does maybe make a little more sense...

Um, I'm a little late to this party, but I'd like to add that Mighella the Nightsister is not from the cartoon. If its the same one that I am remembering, then she is from the Dark Horse Darth Maul comic series from shortly after TPM:

Jayson's guess of pairing her with some sort of Darth Maul figure in those rumored 2-packs is a good guess and makes a lot of sense based on the source.

She is not a CW character made in the realistic style instead of the animated style. I do not see how Hasbro making a realistic EU Nightsister figure based on an EU comic source can be any sort of basis to assume that they may give us a realistic Dutchess Satine or other CW something before making the animated version.

It wasn't speculation really, more just daydreaming about how (if they do a nightsister from the toon animated), more of the secondary guys from the toon maybe would've been cooler and better received by the target audience that cares about them (IE: Not kids).

Though, i did think when a Nightsister is being tossed around like that, that it's from the toon and not a comic.

I'm from the camp where I really don't care where the Nightsister figure basis comes from. It could be from the comics, it could be from the Clone Wars 3D cartoon, or it could be from the "Courtship of Princess Leia" novel. I just think they are a cool faction in the Star Wars universe that has never been represented as a figure. I felt the same way about the Bothans until they put one in a comic pack a few years ago...

Hmmm. A nightsister figure, done in a realistic style? And if it is indeed Mighella , then I'm thinking it will probably be in those previously rumored Sith & Villain 2-packs. And under those circumstances she'll almost certainly be packed with Darth Maul.

I'm fine with them doing an EU-inspired Nightsister in realistic style, although it seems like sort of an obscure choice. I just hope that doesn't preclude them from doing the ones from the toon in the animated line. There's plenty of room for Nightsisters in both lines. ;D

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Is the Jar Jar rumor implying Vinty or what? He's coming in the Movie Heroes line, which that figure jived pretty well (from what I saw) with our rumor report prior to NYCC. Jar Jar is already coming out in 2012 though, as we saw at NYCC, so that's confusing.

It's funny how much creedence whatever Stan says is given at otheR places. Sometimes it does seem like he throws a bunch of s**t at a wall, and hopefully some of it will stick. And there's always this caveat he offers up that "things are always changing from Hasbro" which is used to seperate himself from his prognostications.

Personally, I think that his account may very well be used by someone within Hasbro in order to send up trial balloons in a forum setting so that the Star Wars team can conduct some market research. But it also seems like something that can be used to stir the proverbial pot, too.

Is the Jar Jar rumor implying Vinty or what? He's coming in the Movie Heroes line, which that figure jived pretty well (from what I saw) with our rumor report prior to NYCC. Jar Jar is already coming out in 2012 though, as we saw at NYCC, so that's confusing.

I've been expecting there to be a vintage Jar Jar since I saw the MH one. We knew back in 2010 that there was Jar Jar planned for early 2011 but got pushed back because of the 3D release. I had assumed at SDCC when it wasn't shown to be in the 2012 TPM wave that it had been moved into MH but that one is obviously not it.

I see why there's such excitement over there. Half the people seem a bit late to the party.

And will anyone honestly be shocked at a repaint of Slave-I or the Snowspeeder happening? Isn't that easy to assume? I didn't buy Slave-I, but wasn't it designed with a hold for a Carbonite block? And the Snowspeeder's designed to have the removable armor panel and stuff. :-\ Eh, whatever.

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I put no stock in the rumors (remember the non-Stan rumor list with Clone Wars stuff like Captain Tarkin?), and not even that much in Hasbro's Q&A responses...because plans change. Look at how much got 2011 stuff shoved into 2012.

Sounds kind of cool. I was sort of hoping they'd do a new Ree Yees (especially after seeing the detail they put into the Senator from ROTS), and a realistic Ahsoka should be a popular figure. Not sure if I care much about Darth Plagueius, although I understand why they would make one.

this sounds like a hint of the new figures from user Guardian over at RS:

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I have not seen a reeyess or yaface, but they are putting out a new weequay, lumat, and 2 more rotj rebels. Both have been made before in POTF time. One has had his brother made in the BAF line. He had 2 eyes though.

Id say the EU figure they will show today is the Female bounty hunter from the new game as she was coming this year.

Dressel Rebel just pooped his pants. I'm down for a new Orrimarko for sure. Be extra cool if the patch were removable and he had some funky scarring, but I can live without that too. :) It'll just be cool getting the other color cloak IMO. Loved that last Dressellian Commando and army built the shizzle out of him.

Could the other Rebel be a human in the vest ala the Saga figure, but using Col. McCracken's upper body or something?

It's possible that these things are being said but not pictured. UK Toy Fair generally doesn't have the same ammount of stuff to show, as US Toy Fair does anyway, so it's possible the reps there are just saying this figure or that figure are coming out.

Really? I rather liked it a lot... Compare it to the mask stills and I think you'll be shocked. I think it's more that the mask is ****, and the paintjob on the eyes was almost always off on that too.

Yeah, I felt from the neck up, that it was a step back from the POTF2 eye patch one. I got rid all my Legacy heads of this figure. I might even have sent them to Dressel, I can't honestly remember. Maybe if Hasbro had painted the head with a wash, I would have liked it better, I don't know. I just feel like they usually hit alien head sculpts out of the park, but on that occasion they didn't do the figure justice, as least for what I'm used to seeing.

I like all three well enough, but really another Galen Marek? Force Unleashed wasn't that great, not by a longshot. Force Unleashed II was, by most accounts, far worse for one reason or another, or several. I just don't get them going with this guy, yet again. I am pretty much TFU'd out at this point. It made some cool figures and I was happy if they'd have just packed up and moved on, especially since Hasbro themselves said they were moving on from TFU.

That said...

Now I want some bonus points. :) I got the vintage Nikto and TOR as an EU figure right. ;D

Vintage Nikto is all kinds of awesome and pretty well needed. It really makes me hope for updates of the rest of the old Battlepack now, as they're all looking very dated next to my new goons.

Shae Vizla I'm pretty giddy to get. I like Bounty Hunters (who doesn't?), and she was pretty rockin' in the trailers to the game, and her figure looks really impressive too. TOR is the only thing I'm truly intrigued to see in 2012... I really want them to delve into that, as it's pretty vast and I can handle lots of EU from an era so far removed from the films and main characters.

Marek's cool too, very "ultimate" with all that gear and most of it being removable, I just really didn't feel I needed that figure and could've easily stomached another new TOR character or OT update/new character.

The new Galen Marek is a little bit of a surprise, but a cool new EU offering. The accessories look pretty awesome. Is all of that actually going to fit in a TVC blister? My only gripe here is the timing. I really think that Hasbro would have a lot more success with these EU video game figures if they could get their release schedule synced up with the game releases.

Which brings me to Shae Viszla. Pretty awesome that Hasbro managed in this case to offer up a video game figure that IS well timed with the game release. Granted, we saw Shae in that Deceived trailer going back close to 2 years. And with the lead time on a new figure being about 18 months I'm glad to see that they took advantage of all of this lead time to get the figure ready. I'm still surprised that it took LucasArts so long to bring this game to market.

The Nikto is very cool, and like Darby mentioned, I'm really looking forward to learning more about the rest of the TVC slate for this year. Seems to be shaping up to be a nicely rounded line. I'm actually surprised at how many EU figures have been shown/announced so far (not even counting the deleted scene stuff), cool for people who are looking for more of that since the comic packs went away.

Vizla and Nikto were my picks for coolness... I like Marek, I just don't see the point. You've done umpteen of him, his games are either mediocre or weak efforts... Time to put that one away. Put taht kind of effort into Katarn. He's about as relevant and his games/story were much more popular at their time.

He does come with cool stuff though. That's about the minimum I'd want to be content between the price and all.

I like Marek, I just don't see the point. You've done umpteen of him, his games are either mediocre or weak efforts... Time to put that one away. Put taht kind of effort into Katarn. He's about as relevant and his games/story were much more popular at their time.

Yeah, that was my thinking too. He looks great... but isn't this like Galen Marek #7? Tooling dollars are sparse, costs are going up, "we need to be careful about choices", blah blah blah and they give us this guy in one of the EU slots in 2012? Seems like such a strange decision when there are so many other male video game characters they could have picked - Kyle Katarn, Dash Rendar, Carth, etc.

Yeah, Katarn's like a personal thing for me but a Dark Forces one would certainly rock... That said, I'd be equally happy with Carth Onassi for sure, or another KOTOR party character... Likewise I'd be into them looking at another popular sector of the EU too that isn't really touched, or Dash Rendar since SOTE figures are pretty dated at this point.

How bout that friggin' Noghri? ::)

Marek's a neat effort, but I can't say I was really upset with his other figures though. I thought they were all kind of neat, nice articulation... Sculpts maybe not perfectly accurate, but not horrific. For me it's like Mara Jade... Maybe a Jedi one of her would be neat, but honestly I'm ok with that comic one we got and don't necessarilly feel like I have to have a new one that's 100% accurate to Shannon Baksa's look or whatever. Some stuff I just hate to see them go to, so soon after they went to it already and didn't really waste the effort.

Hell i'm even ok with Katarn as he is, and would only want a new Katarn if it was a purely Dark Forces looking Katarn, sans beard and with the coat and body armor.

Sick of Marek to be honest. I don't really mind EU but I really wish they would move past certain characters and produce some others on people's short lists. Maybe Guri for instance? Nomi Sunrider? Please not another damn clonetrooper either. Anyway, love the Nikto!

I liked the first game, and most of the figures that have been made... apparently we're not the only ones when you consider the prices the TFU figures are now on ebay, and really none of the TFU stuff can be labeled as pegwarming, except perhaps the latest set, which was the weakest offering from TFU that Hasbro has put together.

Hmmm... yeah, there are a number of figures that are showing up on there with different #s... example:

396494841 SW EP1 JAR JAR 396494840 SW EP1 JAR JAR

396504840 SW EPII CLONE LIEUTENANT396504841 SW EPII CLONE LIEUTENANT

396514840 SW EPIII CLONE396514841 SW EPIII CLONE

396524841 SW EPIV SANDTROOPER 396524840 SW EPIV SANDTROOPER

375124841 SW EPV PRINCESS LEIA 375124840 SW EPV PRINCESS LEIA

396644840 SW EPVI DARTH VADER 396644841 SW EPVI DARTH VADER

I wonder if that is just due to the way these things get entered into the computer or if it's some sort of sign that we're in for more "UGH" carded variants (or Revenge cards, or Foil Cards or whatever gimmick) this Fall?

Yeah, I noticed the numbers were different. I understand them packing some double because they are popular. But you might be right, Jeff. Some kind of UGH promotion? Will be interesting to see. A question for Hasbro at ToyFair?

Interesting list(s) for sure, hopefully we'll get more clarification (and pics) at Toy Fair. I wonder if this essentially covers the rest of the year (more or less) for TVC? We already know the next few waves from the slides at NYCC/SDCC (if those stay in the same order and nothing switches around), and you would think those other TPM figures would maybe be hitting Fall-ish? Looks like a pretty nice lineup overall though if true, with pretty good variety. A little more Clone-heavy again the way it looks, but we'll see. I figure the AOTC-themed line likely planned for next year would be another Clonestravaganza.

Looks like they updated to add more assortments... I updated my post up above with the additions.

It's weird - a lot of those cases have the same contents, just different numbers. If it's a Hasbro UK list, I wonder if some of those numbers are the US numbers, while others are the multi-language cards or something? Or some other regional difference?

That was quite a data dump. Lots of interesting stuff to talk about. But I can also foresee the inevitable comments that "there were no surprises at Toy Fair", too.

The EU Republic Trooper from TOR would be a nice addition to the basic figure line. Although that character does seem to be based so much on the PT Clone Troopers that it's kind of funny. As for TOR, I've been hoping that we'll get at least one of the Jedi from the trailers. No luck there, yet.

The Sandtrooper and Clone are ridiculous ideas so hopefully there's more to it. Very impressive list overall. Excited to see all the new figs at Toy Fair. If this is it for 2012, then I'm only disappointed we will not get a new Slave Anakin from TPM.

A very nice looking list if it turns out to be true. Stoked for Nien Nunb finally, I've been passing for years on the old ones thinking they'd be making a new one anytime, that was a good couple years ago, hehehe. My only gripe is that it seems Evazan is the last Cantina dude for some time. Was hoping for 1 or 2 more. Jabba's Palace seems nicely represented though.

That's a lot of assortments. I'm really looking forward to all the new OT stuff, but am afraid pegs will get clogged with everything else before they're ready to hit retail.

I think once we get past Toy Fair these case assortments will make a good deal more sense. Especially once the bigger etailers like BBTS and EE get the cases listed with official imagery.

But the inclusion of more Sandtroopers and Episode III Clone Troopers is a definite head scratcher. The thing is, in most of that list with previously identified figures there were figure numbers next to each figure. In the case of the Episode III Clone and Sandtrooper they were ID'd not with a TVC number, but the upc number. Are we looking at different Episode III Clones and Sandtroopers in this instance? It already seems clear that there's an Episode II Clone, but with the blue Lieutenant markings. My guess is we'll get a Shock Trooper or Coruscant Clone from Episode III, and an alternate color pauldron for the Sandtrooper.

I'm really hoping it is a different ROTS trooper as well. And seriously, what is up with all the Sandtroopers all the time? I like them and all, but I see they are listed in the Movie Heroes line again too. It just seems funny that they don't release "regular" Stormtroopers with this much consistency, but the Sandtroopers are pretty much consistently on the pegs.

Anyways, other than that, the lineup looks pretty great. In some ways, the list (beyond what we already knew about) seems a little "main character" light, aside from the CW figures. Not that we don't appreciate the other characters, it is just surprising. I guess that would give them an Anakin or Obi-Wan to "anchor" assortments (or carry overs) since there isn't a Luke, Vader, Han, etc. listed for the second half of the year really (or what I'm guessing is the 2nd half). Overall, looks great though. They are really knocking off a lot of requested figures, and continuing a great run for TVC.

In some ways, the list (beyond what we already knew about) seems a little "main character" light, aside from the CW figures. Not that we don't appreciate the other characters, it is just surprising. I guess that would give them an Anakin or Obi-Wan to "anchor" assortments (or carry overs) since there isn't a Luke, Vader, Han, etc. listed for the second half of the year really

No kidding. The only Han Solo planned for 2012 is a repack of the Bespin figure? Lame. Don't get me wrong, I love the Bespin Han... I was just hoping for a kick-ass NEW Han to make up for the POS "Yavin 4" Han and repack Endor Han they dumped on us last year. ::)

And no Chewie? WTF does everyone's favorite wookiee need to do to get on a VC card? He hasn't had a VC card since what, 2004? Poor Chewie is stuck in Legends/CW Hell I guess. Seriously, we need a new Chewbacca on a vintage card dammit. >:(

I'm not so mad about Sandtroopers - for $10 price now, I'd rather get Sandtroopers, who are really just Stormtroopers with extra gear, than Stormtroopers with just one blaster anyway. I am annoyed with more Clone Troopers and Clone Pilots though. Save that stuff for the AOTC and ROTS 3D launchs, don't make us suffer through them now AND again next spring.

Yeah, I don't get all the Clones included here either with the AOTC 3D release on its way next year. I'd just as soon they hold those off for then as well. Honestly, I know they can improve little things on some of the figures, but overall I'm fairly satisfied with my clonetroopers at this point.

I don't get why we haven't seen a Chewie here either. Putting the EB Chewie on a vintage card would be pretty cool, and easy for Hasbro. Honestly, although people generally don't like repacks, if they had to put a wave out there later in the year (similar to the "Death Star" wave that hit retail) made up primarily of repacks - I wouldn't mind if they did an "Original 12" wave, with the new vintage cardbacks (front and backs, like the TPM wave) and included repacks from the VOTC/VTSC/etc. waves with maybe a couple of new figures (a new ANH Leia, for example). I'd be ok with that, and it would get some nice figures (EB Chewie, VOTC Han, Resurgence Luke/R2, etc.) out there again.

If my memory serves me correct, there were a lot of assortments of TVC Wave 3 too... I seem to recall something like 5 or more assortments of that wave listed at EE... I guess each assortment is limited for a wave, and all the assortments together equal about the volume of a regular wave with just one assorment... I could be way off on that though.

For the EPIII Clone, I'd be happy with the VC #45 body, with a NEWLY sculpted Phase II helmet, something not so big and bulky as the removable helmets Hasbro has given the "grunts" in the past. They really NEED to do that... it's pretty lame they haven't yet.

For the Sandtooper, I hope it's a dirty variation of the previous one, with paint applied like on this version (http://www.yakfaceforums.com/TGuide2004/html/tac/legends/sandtrooper.html).

Same case pack, but one has 4840 ending, the other has 7380 ending numbers. Since the list came from Hasbro UK source, I suppose there could be some doubling up - maybe some are US/english card assortments while others are "tri-logo"/EU style cardback assortments? That would explain the doubles in the list...

I sure hope so despite it's problems this line is top notch. And as history repeats itself the mainline of SW always comes out on top. If the line up holds these will do well. I think the EP3 cloneTrooper will be the Shocktrooper using the VC45 buck like the 501st. I can also see the sandtrooper upgraded with dirt and the remote controlled 97 SE droid.

If I recall, Hasbro said they were getting away from "plain" and going with more colorful clones in the future... I think that ROTS Trooper will then be one of the specific units from the films, and the Sandtrooper I'd suspect will have a bit of a deco improvement too.

Like Jeff, I'll take a "Sandtrooper" over a regular Stormtrooper anyday... I stocked up heavy in 2007 because they were really versatile basic Imperial grunts. That's cool by me, and with the Sandtrooper you almost always get some cool extra guns like the big Lewis Gun rifle, or the MG34 rifle, or last year's MG32... I like that and a nice basic E11. All of the above and an E11 would be nice too though. ;D

I'm wondering how well 2012's list jives with the "rumors" that sprang out of an ass here or there though? Or are we going to cling to that Tarkin as a "See, I called that!" moment? :D

Courtesy of someone at RS:(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/Mrblight/sculpts.jpg)

There was a bit of discussion back then on whether that was really Bespin Leia gown material or just a coincidence. Then, the Nov 2010 Q&A confirmed that both Bespin Gown Leia and Bespin Escape Leia were in the works... I think it was at SSG or something, can't find the linky. :(

I guess I can see them going either way. Bespin Gown Leia would be a nice partner to the 2010 Luke and 2011 Han upgrades and tick another Kenner recard off the list. Bespin Escape Leia could re-use parts from that 2010 Hoth Leia for an easy kit-bash (like they did with Dagobah Landing Luke) and would be a welcome upgrade over the 2001 PotJ version.

Saw that too. Teasing stuff like that can be a double-edged sword. Someone let it slip to me at Toy Fair in 2008 that the Turbo Tank was on the way, but I felt compelled to keep my mouth shut and be all ethical and ****. I didn't want to blow up the guys spot, and wanted to maintain a good working relationship with Hasbro.

Fast forward a couple of years after that and a site that I used to be affiliated with got a full Hasbro marketing plan and confirmation of the big AT-AT. They decided to publish it, despite my protestations that it should be dealt with cautiously. What ensued afterward was intense, and included threats of litigation from Hasbro's legal representation.

on the yakface's facebook, somebody got a comfirmation on a item in 2013. Does anybody know what this is ??

yeah I saw that too, did they end up meaning the details on the yoda style packaging?

either way, there was some turd with what looked like a Madonna picture posting on the facebook thread. what a turd.... Words cannot express how much of a turd he was being.... turd. Madonna man - if you are reading this - you are a turd.

Saw that too. Teasing stuff like that can be a double-edged sword. Someone let it slip to me at Toy Fair in 2008 that the Turbo Tank was on the way, but I felt compelled to keep my mouth shut and be all ethical and ****. I didn't want to blow up the guys spot, and wanted to maintain a good working relationship with Hasbro.

Fast forward a couple of years after that and a site that I used to be affiliated with got a full Hasbro marketing plan and confirmation of the big AT-AT. They decided to publish it, despite my protestations that it should be dealt with cautiously. What ensued afterward was intense, and included threats of litigation from Hasbro's legal representation.

We've had to deal with the same thing a couple of time here...most notably when Tom Hodges posted a bunch of EpIII Concept Art in a Rebelscum chat room and "someone" copied them all and sent them too us :P

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=3555.30

Chris posted them right away and was greeted with LFL lawyers and threats and all that jazz. We were all scared shitless but it was also a lot of fun!

The other time happened soon after. We got the scoop on the EpIII design and look and actual mockups and the like (sort of like this Yak story) We chose to do our own concept mock ups instead of just posting the info #1 to protect our source and #2 to not have LFL shut us down permanently :P

The TRU still has a few of the "Shadows of the Dark Side" packaged AT-AT's.

Dunno if this signals the upcoming end of Vintage or what, repackaging things out there in one last money grab, because they sure could wait on the AT-AT and the Falcon until closer to when OT movies are rereleased.

If it's paint really nice I would happily pay $80-$100 for the Slave 1. I am stoked of the OT attention and will support these like no tomorrow. I want to help send a message, keep the focus on OT an you will get a positve response.

Lots of new rumors this week, hopefully SDCC will be a good showing this year (or the combination of SDCC and C6). Although I'm a little nervous about the price as well, I'm pretty psyched for the possibility of that ESB Slave 1 with the new Carbonite block. Also, the speeder bike. I've been waiting for one of those for awhile as well. Hopefully both do end up being true, and we'll get some nice pics soon. I'm almost a little surprised they didn't save the Slave 1 for the Empire 3D release year, but I guess that is a ways off yet (and we still haven't gotten confirmation on AOTC at this point).

The battle packs (Ewoks and Pilots) are both great too, and I can't wait for those. So far, it looks like TRU is cleaning up on exclusives this Fall, it will be interesting to see what the other stores get. I really like Scott's idea for the Cantina aliens 3 Pack, and I'm sort of glad to see those returning to Target. I know the previous rounds have basically been repacks (and clearanced), but I guess the nostalgia of it is kind of nice. And, for the most part, they have used pretty nice versions of the figures to fill out the packs.

So we've seen what appears to be a variant AT-ST Pilot utilizing the Assault On Hoth BP's AT-ST Pilot sculpt, but there seem to be some deco differences and a totally new head that I can't place with any other figure.

It's unclear if it's a prototype, production figure (I lean this way), and it's unknown if it's a pack-in or basic figure as well.

Either way, seems like we're getting a quasi-new one by what was seen! :D

awesome! I have 8 of the original ones from that hoth pack but I replaced all of their helmets with the previous ones to make them look better as the googles are attached to the helmet. The helmet he originally came with and the seperate goggles did not work well or look good at all. I hope that got corrected.It's been a long time coming for this guys and about time.

JJ did they fix the helmet or is it a different head? the head he came with was great, I would love more to swap with rebels.

JTA Q&A has word from Hasbro of a new Lobot and Hammerhead in the works

I didn't read the report, but I have no doubt that Hasbro intends to have Vintage return when the OT is re-released in 3D and figures like Hammerhead and Lobot are high on the list for re-do and vintage carding.

Since both of those are from the 3-packs I think that is were we will see them.New Hammerhead with repacks of Greedo and Ponda and a new Lobot with repacks of Han and an ugnaught sounds extremely likely to be the next wave.

I liked the last Lobot but one that is poseable wouldn't irk me I guess... Articulation is about the only way to improve that last one though. It was pretty spiffy with its creatively sculpted/designed laptop, the little pager thing, and the clear with painted details head implant thing.

I'm for almost anyone articulated to the nines, or at least I used to be... Lobot SEEMS like he could be a badass if he wanted to, so I'm ok with that. What makes me question it is just the current prices... I'm reluctant to shell out $10 for just any old upgrade... Some, like Cantina guys that need it, I'd do so gladly. Some, like Army Builders, I'd probably do so gladly and a couple extra. Some, like Malikili (at today's $10 price) would make me wonder if I was spending $10 wisely.

He's a cool update, but I got him for less than $8 I think... For me I guess that's just the threshold I'm at. $10 Lobot is something I'm kinda wishy washy on then... I'd be happier with him at $8 for sure.

I think Yakface was an affirmative by Hasbro reps during Celebration (via yakface.com), though I believe they were going to wait and put him on a Vintage card. So it sounds like we'll have to wait a couple years for him.

I'd be fine with Lobot getting more articulation and costing around $10 - but that's mostly because I'd like to grab a few and pop them apart for customs. He'd be great for Coruscant folk and average citizen-esque custom fodder. I'd still keep one non-butchered though for my Cloud City dio.

As for Yakface, I definitely would buy several... one for the Palace dio, and several for customs.

It seems like there were a few figures from the OT where it sounded like they were on the way, but Hasbro wanted to "save them for the Vintage Collection". I understand that, but it worries me that we won't see much from the OT for awhile if that is the case. That might be why we're seeing a lot of OT characters next year that have either already been done on a vintage cardback (Biker Scout, Vader, etc.) or weren't in the original vintage lineup (Biggs, Ceremony Luke, etc.) It might just be a concidence too. I guess we should expect more of a prequel push with both AOTC and ROTS 3D on the way next year. Hopefully we'll see vintage return for a big OT 3D extravaganza in 2014 :).

I'd think it's more OT figures who had Vinty figures that they'd really rather save for a return to the vinty cards... Doesn't mean there aren't a plethora of other OT figures they couldn't or wouldn't do... Just modern Lobot NOT being on a vinty card does make sense, as does Yakface, etc.

I'm a little surprised Biggs isn't being held back, actually. Only because there's certain guys who were never in the vintage line that you raelly WANT that card for them... Tarkin, Fleet Trooper, etc. Biggs would be on my short list of those characters. I'd also put Owen/Beru, Imp Technician, Chief Bast, Nik Sant, some of the Cantina aliens (many that could stand an upgrade), etc.

I'm almost expecting to see repacks of the Saga figures from 2002. You know, the really ****** ones in action poses with no articulation? And action features galore?

You know... why not? Hasbro said that they want to focus on kids more. I'm actually surprised that Hasbro doesn't keep Vintage around for the collectors and make Legacy (or BAD) for the kids with those salt shaker sculpts.

Some rumors circulating at JTA - sound like the "15 figures" a year is new figures and not total figures? Anyway, JTA is "speculating" these for 2018... I will leave it to you all to decide if it's fanboy speculation or actual rumoring. ;)

They would line up with what's been speculated and also what Hasbro hinted at in some of their Q&A's, specifically the Stormtrooper / Vader. I still love the last Hammerhead, but I'm sure a new one would be epic, especially on the vintage card.

I'd say ok if available by the case. I'd say the lack of a shoretrooper sucks. I'd also say some of those repacks are abysmal choices because some just didn't sell well. I'm happy, sad, excited, and dejected all at one time.

So basically no clue how to feel other than I plan to order cases on EE and call it s day except on extras.

Btw can't say I care about another Stormtrooper. I want the shoretrooper which was impossible to get.

I'd have liked to have seen more old TVC repacks but I get pushing the new media first. I'm kinda cool with what I see mostly just scared by a few like Leia.

If they take the opportunity to fix her fugly face deco, then I'm all for another try at that TFA Leia, actually.

The thing about this line is that we have to hope that there are enough TVC carded collectors out there who are going to buy Phasma or Finn on TFA TVC cards. If those people aren't out there anymore, this TVC experiment is going to be over quick. :-\

And yeah, I get why they picked Deathtrooper over Shoretrooper, but I think EVERYONE would be happy to see more of those in this line.

And yeah, I get why they picked Deathtrooper over Shoretrooper, but I think EVERYONE would be happy to see more of those in this line.

I'm pretty sure that Steve Evans explained this in one of the SDCC interviews, and it had to do with wave building relative to storytelling. That being the ROGUE ONE themed wave would be built more around the events on Jedha. Hasbro's logic was that Deathtroopers would be more likely to have been present at Jedha than Shoretroopers. And there will also be the Imperial Tank Trooper offered up.

The one thing I take from Hasbro's comments on this new incarnation of the Vintage Collection is that the tooling budget for new figures may be limited. And we should probably expect more reissues of high quality figures built around a theme.

I'm sure we'll see more shoretroopers. If I've learned anything over the past few years, it's that patience pays off.

+1. Give it time. I think we'll see Hasbro come up with a Scarif themed wave at some point. The Shoretrooper fits in there perfectly. So do Stormtroopers, and even Rebel Fleet Troopers. For new figures? I'd like to see an SA versions of K-2SO and Baze Malbus plus General Merrick and some of the Rebel ground troops.

Evans also basically conceded the Shoretrooper was coming in those same interviews, so it's no worry there. I think the bah humbug sentiment right now is that this particular figure is in super high demand and super scarce. I'd buy tons of either the SA or 5 POA version if I had the chance right now, and baring any dumps at Wally World, it will be 2019 before I get one.

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If those people aren't out there anymore, this TVC experiment is going to be over quick. :-\

Along those lines, Adam Pawlus basically declared TVC DOA in one of his recent Q&A's. I wonder if the market is there. I think there's enough interest given the huge response to the 40th anniversary figs, but then I don't how much of that is that Hasbro underproduced them. I also wonder how much of a deterrent #116 is to some collectors as opposed to a reward. Hopefully lots of new collectors come in. Some may - they may not - see that 116 and go WUT and realize there's no hope. I hope the line does well.

There's absolutely a market for the SA "vintage" figures, I know I'm not the only one who will buy every one they make. The trick for Hasbro is finding the right production run balance to make the line worth the effort. They want to make them them, that seems clear from my chat with Steve and I can not wait until they start hitting the shelves again.

Agree 100%, though I think Hasbro finding the right balance in production/distribution is the one area they consistently fall flat. It's clear they are hyper aware of it, so maybe they'll get to it once and for all, but going back to 09, this has been a major issue. I talked to Daryl DePriest at NYCC 2011 about volume/distribution, and it was getting fixed then.

JTA is like the weatherman. Throw out a forecast and if you're right, you brag on and on about how you heard it there first. If you're wrong, you just ignore it and move on to the next prediction with zero accountability. Its a no lose proposition for them to toss out a name here and there, but I hope they're right for a change.

JTA is like the weatherman. Throw out a forecast and if you're right, you brag on and on about how you heard it there first. If you're wrong, you just ignore it and move on to the next prediction with zero accountability. Its a no lose proposition for them to toss out a name here and there, but I hope they're right for a change.

Yeah, but at least the weatherman uses more than the cloud's body language to make a prediction.

JTA is like the weatherman. Throw out a forecast and if you're right, you brag on and on about how you heard it there first. If you're wrong, you just ignore it and move on to the next prediction with zero accountability. Its a no lose proposition for them to toss out a name here and there, but I hope they're right for a change.

Yeah, but at least the weatherman uses more than the cloud's body language to make a prediction.

As much as I love to dogpile on the JTA manchild...

I've met with Hasbro guys when I worked on TheJawa as well as JTA, and asked about what may or may not be in the pipeline. When I would touch on a specific item that they might be working on? Sometimes you would get a knowing look.

That being said, THERE WAS AN UNDERSTANDING. In no way, shape or form was that Hasbro rep confirming or denying ANYTHING. The understanding was along the lines of "You're asking the right questions. I can't say anything now (pending licensor approval, product safety testing, whatever). Keep following up on this topic". That was during the era of the Q&A sessions, and we could follow up on that topic at a later date.

Where I do take issue with this "body language" nonsense? I wouldn't publish something based on a nod, look or wink because it might be a breach in the trust that was developed between me and a source. Someone who publishes info based on a wink, nod or look? They don't seem to get that concept, and they are probably not worthy of trust...like the JTA manchild. Because if you publish something based on a wink, nod or look and not verifiable info, it can really come back to bite you in the ass. Especially if you've sold it to your readers and it doesn't pan out.

I only have a Scariff Trooper because a guy in Oregon sent me one as part of a trade. Apparently they were all sent to the Pacific Northwest. Plus, since there weren't too many in the actual movie (looked to be 1 Scariff trooper for every 3-4 Stormtroopers), I only need a few more!

Anyone know if the rumors about Disney stopping all Slave Leia merchandise it true?

That would be baffling. I highly doubt it.

That has been reported/rumored since late 2015 (https://gizmodo.com/rumor-disney-may-be-retiring-slave-leia-merchandise-1740279925) (shortly after there was social media backlash over the Black Series 6" Prisoner Leia figure). I don't think Disney ever came out and said "never again", but there definitely has been a shift away from toys/promo items based on that costume since then.

I think in today's climate, we'd probably be more likely to see a repack of "Sandstorm Outfit" Leia (http://www.rebelscum.com/2012Hasbro/TVC/LEIA_DELETED/LEIA_DELETED-25.jpg) as opposed to one that says "Slave Outfit" Leia (http://www.rebelscum.com/TVC/Basic/VC64leia/TVC-1938.jpg) on the package.

I think in today's climate, we'd probably be more likely to see a repack of "Sandstorm Outfit" Leia (http://www.rebelscum.com/2012Hasbro/TVC/LEIA_DELETED/LEIA_DELETED-25.jpg) as opposed to one that says "Slave Outfit" Leia (http://www.rebelscum.com/TVC/Basic/VC64leia/TVC-1938.jpg) on the package.

It's an interesting list. And I'm genuinely surprised by the prospect of that ST version of Luke. I didn't think we would see that until at least this time next year, but then we don't have any sense of a release date based on the information at hand.

I'd also like to get more Praetorian Guards, but I have trouble getting excited about it if it's going to be a repack of the Guard from the WalMart exclusive 3.75" Black Series.

I think all but Phasma are good choices, but I get why she’s included. The Scarif and Praetorian were HTF. I hope the Gunner is new though and that the Stormtrooper’s helmet is correct. Maybe the Han will be a correct Yavin Ceremony version?

I just wish Hasbro would throw us a bone every now and then and get us something from the OT that's never been done before. The last two OT figures that were new were Mosep Binneed and that Sail Barge droid from the EE pack.

I figure there has to be more new on the way outside Luke and Lando (and Yakface), but if for some reason there isn't....kind of a snoozer. I'm excited for the new stuff though. Honestly, I would probably buy some of those repacks as well. I understand, and don't even mind, that there is going to be repacks..... I just wish the ratios between new and returning were a little better.

Yeah, if you were only interested in never before made figures from the OT, it would be very affordable to be a collector these days. Heck, if you were an OT collector in 3 3/4" scale these days you would have a pretty easy go of it as well.

They had me with the TLJ Luke, SOLO Lando, Phasma and army builders. And I would actually like to see the Death Star Gunner revisited in some way.

But I agree on the OT core characters UNLESS they can offer something interesting. Such as? GOOD versions of Vader and Luke from the Bespin duel. Hasbro has tried doing two TVC style Luke Skywalkers in the Bespin fatigues. IMHO, both were disappointments. If Hasbro can nail that? Then they might have my interest. And with their tease about playsets? I'd also like to see something for the Bespin duel. TESB Vader and Luke might tie into that.

Just tossing this post in here since we don't have a basic single SDCC thread... I'll be live-posting to our front page a single and edited/updated (as info becomes more clear and comes to me via text remotely) news story on the front page. It's going to be difficult posting here, twitter, front page, etc. It's just too much, so I'm focusing on our front page as a place that'll have a concise list of things as they come, which is usually what I do anyway. This is always a bit of a juggling act, plus photo editing hasn't gone smashingly for me this year either (all kinds of errors from the images Ant has been sending me, but not his fault I don't think, just software showing its age).

There are a couple of TVC exclusive figures that I'm curious about if we're looking at the number sequence (VC 136 & 137) since they ahead of the Han Solo and 41st Elite Corps Clone that were announced.

I finally got a chance to rewatch the NYCC panel today and I noticed this time that Steve Evans says that the eight TVC figures left to be revealed are all from the Original Trilogy (around the 34min mark of this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=1cbmxWOVr2M)).

ANH Han, ANH Chewie, and Bespin Luke have been rumored for a long time. Vader, Hoth Leia, and Fett were rumored earlier this spring too but those could just be the TVC re-releases they announced at NYCC (https://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php/topic,24834.0.html).

Thoughts or guesses on who/what we're getting? Below are the eight that are left to be revealed for Spring/Summer 2019.

Basic Figures:2019 VC141 To Be Announced [2019 Wave 02]2019 VC149 To Be Announced [2019 Wave 03]

Exclusives:2019 VC136 To Be Announced [?? Exclusive]2019 VC137 To Be Announced [?? Exclusive]2019 VC144 To Be Announced [?? Exclusive]

2019 VCxxx To Be Announced [Convention Exclusive]2019 VCxxx To Be Announced [Convention Exclusive]2019 VCxxx To Be Announced [Convention Exclusive]

Sim Aloo would be a good exclusive choice. And that's simply because I could see the potential for that figure to be a major pegwarmer in the mainline.

But don’t make new ones a con exclusive, either (like they did with the Mouse Droid and Salacious Crumb though those two were simply repacks on vintage cards). If they finally made Sim Aloo, but made limited quantities and only available at Comic Con, there would be plenty of upset people. If they’re just reissues of highly requested TVC figures, then the outrage would be less (hopefully)

Sim Aloo would be a good exclusive choice. And that's simply because I could see the potential for that figure to be a major pegwarmer in the mainline.

If they're gonna do him, I'd rather they just do a three pack of the remaining dignitaries, or even a 5 pack with 3 new ones and 2 re-releases. I wouldn't even care if they were 5 POA if it got them made.

I wouldn't mind seeing them mine more of the Legacy Collection & Black Series releases that are characters related to the Sail Barge scene of ROTJ and just re-releasing them on Vintage card backs. I know that's boring, but at least it helps to bolster the offering of the Barge with even more figures to populate it...

Some great candidates are:

Vizam

Ree-Yees

Skiff Guard (Brock Starsher)

Giran

Nikto Gunner

Princess Leia - Legacy Collection BD17

The Princess Leia is a great choice as an exclusive. It means that the "Slave"/Dancing Girl outfit version of Leia can finally be offered on a Vintage Card and Hasbro doesn't have to worry about the backlash of parents seeing such a figure on the pegs at WalMart or Target. And if they could work it so that she also came with the alternate set of legs for the reclining position, that would be a bonus as I don't think that piece was ever re-released even though the base figure was.

The sculpts of Vizam, Ree-Yees and Brock Starsher are all Vintage quality and I just checked my Giran and Nikto Gunner figures which were Legacy Collection releases and they too are Vintage level articulation and sculpt IMHO as well.

You're right, my bad, I should have cross-referenced figures a bit better, I knew she had been re-released w/o the sitting/reclining legs, I just couldn't remember where, I guess it was twice, once for VC64 and again for VC88 - that just means they could insert her in, just like they're doing with the Gamorrean Guard, although, I wouldn't mind seeing them try to fit in the sitting legs for a Vintage carded release.

There are a couple of TVC exclusive figures that I'm curious about if we're looking at the number sequence (VC 136 & 137) since they ahead of the Han Solo and 41st Elite Corps Clone that were announced.

I finally got a chance to rewatch the NYCC panel today and I noticed this time that Steve Evans says that the eight TVC figures left to be revealed are all from the Original Trilogy (around the 34min mark of this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=1cbmxWOVr2M)).

ANH Han, ANH Chewie, and Bespin Luke have been rumored for a long time. Vader, Hoth Leia, and Fett were rumored earlier this spring too but those could just be the TVC re-releases they announced at NYCC (https://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php/topic,24834.0.html).

Thoughts or guesses on who/what we're getting? Below are the eight that are left to be revealed for Spring/Summer 2019.

Basic Figures:2019 VC141 To Be Announced [2019 Wave 02]2019 VC149 To Be Announced [2019 Wave 03]

Exclusives:2019 VC136 To Be Announced [?? Exclusive]2019 VC137 To Be Announced [?? Exclusive]2019 VC144 To Be Announced [?? Exclusive]2019 VCxxx To Be Announced [SDCC Exclusive]2019 VCxxx To Be Announced [SDCC Exclusive]2019 VCxxx To Be Announced [SDCC Exclusive]

There's a lot to read into all of this. And frankly it comes across as kind of disappointing if they're really going all OT for the foreseeable future. Especially when you have new films like the sequels, Rogue One and Solo that are fertile territory for some new figures and characters.

The only retread/reissues that I'd really like to see? Reissue the 3.75" Black Series Han Solo in carbonite with the new facial printing technique and put it on a POTF or ROTJ card. Because the original release came out with TERRIBLE paint apps. And try to finally get a Bespin Luke Skywalker right, or at least the paint apps. They've missed the mark on that figure's deco so many times that it's sad.

The one point of contention I have is regarding the Convention exclusives. At what point did Hasbro identify them all as SDCC exclusives? Because I could see one or more being exclusive to Celebration Chicago.

I think the unrevealed eight will be weighted toward ROTJ, but i still will like to see a new Wuher.

Has Squid Face or Bib Fortuna been in TVC? All-new sculpts would be nice. And it'll be two figs on original vintage cards that TVC cardback collectors can strike off their list.

Wasn't there a blurb that Slave Leia would never be made again? Or was that just speculation? I suppose they can call it "Heroine Leia". Heaven help the graphic designer who misspells it 'Heroin Leia".

As long as we're sticking with the OT, other possibilities for straight re-release of the VOTC/VTSC figures include:

Ben (Obi-Wan) Kenobi (EP4)

Han Solo (EP4)

Princess Leia (EP4)

Luke Skywalker (Tatooine Farm Boy) (EP4)

Chewbacca (EP4)

R2-D2 (EP4/5)

Sand People/Tusken Raider (EP4)

Luke Skywalker (X-Wing Pilot) (EP4)

Greedo (EP4)

Bossk (Bounty Hunter) (EP5)

IG-88 (Bounty Hunter) (EP5)

Yoda (EP5)

Lando Calrissian (EP5)

Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) (EP5)

Princess Leia (Combat Poncho) (EP6)

Biker Scout (EP6)

Every one of those re-releases could be purely for the sake of taking the VOTC/VTSC figure and putting it on a "VC" card with an assigned number. I personally, include the VOTC and VTSC figures as part of the overall "Vintage" collection, but since they don't have numbers, they're not "technically" part of the modern/current Vintage Collection.

Some of those don't even need to be re-releases of the VOTC/VTSC figure since there have been some great updated versions of the character since, so that could mean that an entirely different figure is swapped in on the release - such as Yoda which could be a re-release of the Black Series (Orange) #22 figure. They could individually card all four of the figures from the Legacy Collection "Resurgence of the Jedi" battle pack on ANH cardbacks and I don't think ANYONE would mind.

And further mining the Legacy Collection as re-release potential, but also meaning that it would put character originally released in the Kenner line on a VC cardback:

Jawa (BD33 (2009) / BD04 (2010))

Ugnaught (BD43 (2009) or BD28 (2010) or a kit-bash combo that looks more like the Kenner figure)

Luke Skywalker [Stormtrooper Disguise] (BD30)

Malakili (BD22)

Paploo (BD18)

AT-AT Driver (BD49)

Zuckass (BD54)

Bespin Security Guard (take the body of BD50 with a new head and finally make a modern version of the mustached vintage figure)

Wasn't there a blurb that Slave Leia would never be made again? Or was that just speculation? I suppose they can call it "Heroine Leia". Heaven help the graphic designer who misspells it 'Heroin Leia".

It was hype and never confirmed IIRC. Also, Hasbro never called her slave anything, but "Jabba's Prisoner". The Slave Leia term was mostly a fan phrase from what I gather. And almost no one uses "heroine" anymore. I mean DC SUPER HERO GIRLS is a clunky name, but at least there's nothing drug sounding. ::)

Basic Figures:2019 VC141 To Be Announced [2019 Wave 02]2019 VC149 To Be Announced [2019 Wave 03]

Exclusives:2019 VC136 To Be Announced [?? Exclusive]2019 VC137 To Be Announced [?? Exclusive]2019 VC144 To Be Announced [?? Exclusive]2019 VCxxx To Be Announced [SDCC Exclusive]2019 VCxxx To Be Announced [SDCC Exclusive]2019 VCxxx To Be Announced [SDCC Exclusive]

I think Hasbro's basic strategy right now on the OT is to fill gaps left by the original TVC run and also the original 92. I don't think they're going to stray too far out of this since there is huge overlap in some figures with films like Rogue One (Stormtrooper, Darth Vader, DS Gunner, etc.) but I could be wrong. With the Sail Barge and Episode IX next year, I also figure there will be emphasis on ROTJ, though we've seen a fair bit of that already in the announced figures.

Wasn't there a blurb that Slave Leia would never be made again? Or was that just speculation? I suppose they can call it "Heroine Leia". Heaven help the graphic designer who misspells it 'Heroin Leia".

It was hype and never confirmed IIRC. Also, Hasbro never called her slave anything, but "Jabba's Prisoner". The Slave Leia term was mostly a fan phrase from what I gather. And almost no one uses "heroine" anymore. I mean DC SUPER HERO GIRLS is a clunky name, but at least there's nothing drug sounding. ::)

The 6" Black Series version is labeled as Princess Leia (Slave Outfit) on the packaging. But it does seem like sentiment about Leia in this outfit has shifted. I even remember seeing a TV news piece about how one parent was so offended to see the 6" TBS Slave Leia in a toy section at either Target or WalMart, and it had been in the stores for close to 2 years.

Two cents I think the Slave Leia being verboten thing is urban legend, but that being said, she is definitely absent from any recent merchandising, a lot of which has seen an increased profile for Leia.

I still remember buying that 6" TBS slave Leia. The lady at the checkout in Target definitely took notice. I don't know if she was offended or what, but she made a pronounced remark about the figure when I bought it. And that was 5 years ago.

There are a few decent offerings that I've heard coming for 2019 TVC - all of which will complement the barge nicely.

Any figures that are actually new background characters???

From what's been announced we're currently at a 6/6 split of new vs. repack/repaint - so I'm hoping that of those two "TBA" slots at least ONE might be something that's all new, with the other being something that's a repack but never been on a modern Vintage cardback and *hopefully* a character from the original 92.

I think Hasbro's basic strategy right now on the OT is to fill gaps left by the original TVC run and also the original 92.

I think I'm on board with what Darby said. Right now, it looks and feels like the "give us figures of dudes like Tzizvvt or Tonnika Sisters" group is losing out in favor of servicing the "finish the modern update of 'collect all 92' on TVC cards" group.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love new, never before made guys like Tzizvvt and Solomahal. I'm just not expecting us to be that lucky anymore. :-\

At what point did Hasbro identify them all as SDCC exclusives? Because I could see one or more being exclusive to Celebration Chicago.

Sorry I missed your question earlier. I think that was some post-panel miscommunication. Early reports I read had them listed as SDCC, but on this NYCC panel slide (http://www.yodasnews.com/wp-content/gallery/hasbronycc18/IMG_1075.JPEG), it just says "Convention Exclusive" so it could be any mix of SDCC, Celebration or whatever.

I'm sort of torn on wanting SA versions or at least duplicates of some newer figures. Like I caught up on Wave 2/3 of TVC the other night and YAY! but with the exception of Aphra, these are figures I have. Superior, for sure. Some of you were smarter than I am and don't buy all the 5 POA but I love those and they work in most cases. Figures like Rio, or L3 or the troopers, etc. I'd prefer just to see there instead of the inevitable overlap. Like Lando. But you can't have too many Landos.

At what point did Hasbro identify them all as SDCC exclusives? Because I could see one or more being exclusive to Celebration Chicago.

Sorry I missed your question earlier. I think that was some post-panel miscommunication. Early reports I read had them listed as SDCC, but on this NYCC panel slide (http://www.yodasnews.com/wp-content/gallery/hasbronycc18/IMG_1075.JPEG), it just says "Convention Exclusive" so it could be any mix of SDCC, Celebration or whatever.

I kind of figured that might be the case. I think it's a fair bet that the exclusives are going to be spread across a number of events.

The 6" Black Series version is labeled as Princess Leia (Slave Outfit) on the packaging. But it does seem like sentiment about Leia in this outfit has shifted. I even remember seeing a TV news piece about how one parent was so offended to see the 6" TBS Slave Leia in a toy section at either Target or WalMart, and it had been in the stores for close to 2 years.

Yes, it seems they foolishly did use that term. Don't expect me to remember things correctly then. :P

As for offense, parents are offended by war toys. And they should, because war is bad, mmmmkay? :-\

Why we didn't get those versions in the WM Black Series line I'll never know.

At the time, Hasbro said they were trying to avoid overlap on those main characters with outfit options- Han/Leia basic outfits got 5POA and more 'collector specific" outfits like Starkiller Han and Dqar Leia got collector figures. Only problem with that is the 5POA TFA General Leia never got released for some reason. I still have no idea what happened to that one since it was pretty well confirmed as coming at one point by Hasbro.

I appreciate the effort to try to put out as many 3.75" TFA Han figures as they could, but it is really weird to have a SA Starkiller Han and just the 5POA for his main outfit. I definitely think they heard the feedback on that, which is why we got 5POA/SA duplication for Master Luke and SOLO Han.

I see your point Darby...but I pass on the 5 POA figures, with the exception of K-2S0. But I'd gladly buy an SA version of him!

I also don't buy the 5-POA figures, with the exception of Raddus. But I have a very painful K-2SO-sized hole in my collection. I noticed there are a couple different 5-POA versions of him available. Which do you recommend? I obviously need to source him online, so I can't really compare in person.

Thoughts or guesses on who/what we're getting? Below are the eight that are left to be revealed for Spring/Summer 2019.

Basic Figures:2019 VC141 To Be Announced [2019 Wave 02]2019 VC149 To Be Announced [2019 Wave 03]

Waiting on Hasbro to confirm the numbers, but it looks like the Chewbacca and R2-D2 repacks revealed in Europe this past weekend are going to fill these two slots in the basic figure line... based on release info Chewbacca is likely VC141 and R2-D2 is likely VC149.