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Topic: What do Muslims think of the Scriptures?Posted By: Nightingale
Subject: What do Muslims think of the Scriptures?
Date Posted: 11 March 2013 at 6:02pm

Hi everyone.

I've heard it said that Muslims are those who follow all the Prophets and I find in some of your writings, mainly towards Christians you use verses from the Scriptures. But what do you actually think of the Scriptures? Do Muslims believe what's written in the Scriptures? Do you quote to one another from it?

Mahdi's job is to bring out the ridiculous of the Bible for us all to see. Then we all chuckle at his humourus posts. Sometimes he has a point, but I don't believe it originated from him, just a by-product of being a cynical Muslim, ;)

-------------I'm a Gentile.
Numb. 6:24-26

Posted By: Nightingale
Date Posted: 17 March 2013 at 8:14am

I've studied the Bible enough to notice there are inconsistencies no doubt due to man's meddlings. But if the Scriptures were to be entirely abrogated, why would the Quran be it's guardian as Surah Al-Ma'idah 48 says?

Posted By: Webber
Date Posted: 18 March 2013 at 7:12am

The Quran "confirms" past scriptures some 26 times. Muslims don't exactly want it to so they believe it's actually talking about some obscure scriptures, (with no errors, of course) that we will never see, even though the scriptures were compiled some 300 yrs earlier.

Besides all the looking up of discrepancies, seeking contradictions, completley missing any points the OT might have, it keeps Muslims and Christians apart in a manner that I doubt God intended.

My only question is; Why would God mention the obscure 26 times? How can you get guidance and light from something you can never know?

Leaves me looking for the ayat that says God gives in to idle talk on a regular basis. Haven't found it yet.

-------------I'm a Gentile.
Numb. 6:24-26

Posted By: Nightingale
Date Posted: 20 March 2013 at 2:22pm

Personally, I don't believe the Scriptures have been completely abolished, but that they should be read by the light of the Quran. I believe the Quran corrects the Scriptures by revealing the true accounts of events. The stories in the Old Testament were written from a Jewish perspective. And a perspective is not infallible.

However, the Scriptures do not only consist of Writings or stories, but also the books of the various prophets. But unlike the Writings, these are not subject to man's opinions. Instead, the books of the prophets are filled with the words God gave to them. And in the Quran, it says that there isn't anyone who can change or alter Allah's (swt) words.

So even if the stories are inaccurate, God would never allow them to touch the words of His prophets, which if I recall correctly, the Jews placed in a section of their own.

Posted By: Webber
Date Posted: 21 March 2013 at 4:49pm

That's cute, lol. The OT written from a Jewish perspective. I'd be thinking any other perspective would be an outsiders perspective.

-------------I'm a Gentile.
Numb. 6:24-26

Posted By: Nightingale
Date Posted: 25 March 2013 at 9:26am

Yeah, well the stories are Israel's experiences and it was written according to what they believed. For example, although they don't give much details, they say that Solomon did evil in the sight of God. But in the Quran, its clear that what they had judged as evil, God had given Solomon permission to do.

Posted By: Mahdi The Seeke
Date Posted: 26 March 2013 at 1:53am

Originally posted by Webber

Mahdi's job is to bring out the ridiculous of the Bible for us all to see. Then we all chuckle at his humourus posts. Sometimes he has a point, but I don't believe it originated from him, just a by-product of being a cynical Muslim, ;)

you can only chuckle if you bury your head in the sand and choose to ignore the inconsistencies in the Bible.
It does not matter where my points originated as long as they are valid/true.

Posted By: Webber
Date Posted: 28 March 2013 at 6:10pm

Originally posted by Nightingale

Yeah, well the stories are Israel's experiences and it was written according to what they believed. For example, although they don't give much details, they say that Solomon did evil in the sight of God. But in the Quran, its clear that what they had judged as evil, God had given Solomon permission to do.

Actually, there is quite a bit of detail but you'd have to read it yourself. I know the Quran does it's best to clear all prophets of any wrong doing, yet at the same time records prophets asking for forgivness for their wrong doings. Interesting how that works.

-------------I'm a Gentile.
Numb. 6:24-26

Posted By: honeto
Date Posted: 30 April 2013 at 12:59pm

Prophets were humans, they were also teachers. Their asking for forgiveness shows their humbleness as a human being in front of God. We all seek God's forgiveness because everything belongs to God, not to anyone, not even to the prophets, even they had to seek and ask. And prophets were teachers, their asking for forgiveness, engaging in far extensive worship and prayer was an expression and natural act a humble man of God has for his Creator. It was also an example for their followers to see what it is required of a true believer. They were the best of mankind, examples to be copied.
They knew that as humans we can make mistakes knowingly and unknowingly and a true believer is never arrogant of that fact and seeks God's forgiveness over and over and never thinks that he/she don't make mistakes. That's a true beleiver, a true Muslim.
Hasan

-------------39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"