Zec 1:21Then said I, What come these to do? And he spoke, saying, These [are] the horns which have scattered Judah, so that no man did lift up his head: but these are come to fray them, to cast out the horns of the Gentiles, which lifted up [their] horn over the land of Judah to scatter it.

4 beasts and 4 horses

Rev 6:1¶And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.

Rev 6:2And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

Rev 6:3¶And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.

Rev 6:4And there went out another horse [that was] red: and [power] was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

Rev 6:5¶And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.

Rev 6:7¶And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see

Rev 6:8And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

Thought question & proposal: are the 4 horses and the 4 horns/beasts related?If they are, then the meanings can be connected.In the last days, the 4 horses that come against Israel bringing war, famine, false peace, and death originate in the modern countries that represent the ancient enemies of Babylon, Medo-persia, Greece, and Rome.So there is nothing new under the sun, if this theory is true.There is some logic in this.For example, why would Thailand, or Iceland, or the Philippines be warring with Israel, when there has never been any disagreements between them?

horns—horses– meaning

Babylon –red–war

Medo.persian –black–famine

Greece –white–false peace

Rome–dappled, grey — death

What is now history:

The order of the horses in Zechariah : red, black, white, dappled/bay

The order of the horns in Zechariah: Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome

What is still yet to come:

The order of the horses in Revelation:white, red, black, pale

Identity of the beasts in Revelation:Greece, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Rome

Here are ancient maps showing the location of these empires-horns-beasts

Babylonian Empire (609 – 539 BCE) – Red Beast of War

Persian Empire (550 – 330 BCE) – Black Beast of Famine

Rome – Pale Beast of Death

The 2 mountains of Brass (copper)

The next question, if this theory is correct, is exact where is this going to initiate?The scripture says all 4 chariots came out from between 2 mountains of brass.So where can 2 mountains of brass be found in this region of ancient and modern enemies?

This is a map of the region showing mountain ranges.It appears that only Iran has two mountain ranges, if only one country were to initiate the conflict.This seems possible due to Iran’s current threats to blow up Israel.

Here is a summary of countries surrounding Israel, including Israel, and their natural resources.Turkey, Iran Pakistan, and Afghanistan have copper resources.Turkey, Iran and Pakistan have active mines.

Afghanistan has the resources, but no active mines. Israel has copper mines but would not attack itself in the prophecy.In Pakistan, the copper is near the beach in the Balochistan province, but not in the mountains. Only Turkey and Iran have active mining areas that involve 2 mountains, but the scripture does not say the mines have to be active, only that there is copper in the mountains. As of how, Turkey has expressed no desire to attack Israel.

Iran is the only one making threats.The prophecy mentions the chariots came from between 2 mountains.In the Iran map, we see a desert space between the 2 mountains. But, we will have to see which nation is the real one identified by Zechariah. But this graph helps us to narrow down who to watch.

These video presentations bring a fresh perspective to this page. This is not the work of a Yale Divinity School graduate. Of course, neither were John the Baptist, or the prophets graduates of scholarly institutions. They spoke the language of the day as they were given to understand and see what was given to them.

Most interesting, have to wait and see, not easy of course, after my powerful experience in Mach 2003, I went through much, such as the mark of the beast being microchip, I’ve long since believed it symbolic and not literal.
Having said that I’d still not take any id card, because any form of control can simply be a part of the process anyway.

Only time will tell, but apart from earthquakes since late 2003 or 04, I’ve pulled many things off, and just wait to see rather than mislead.
Or if I covered anything like the mark I’d give a broad view.

However I do still have an earthquakes page and monitor that normally every day and also have two folders, one full, with lots on weather and storms, major killing earthquakes and so on, not conflicts as such, as evidence for the last days.
Since 911 which God allowed to happen, things have gotten far worse.

More we go away from God the worse it gets.
One thing I do know for sure is that Bible history repeats itself often.

All eyes as ever should be on Israel though, only time will tell.
I once said I could not see it going past 2012, again wrong to put dates on it.
But what the world calls global warming and climate change, the bible calls the last days, known to many as the end times.
But it won’t be the end, we await a new heavens and earth when Yeshua (Jesus) returns.
So the key is Israel and we are adopted in, no replacement theology, time people woke up to all that and so much more.
The people, most, I’d say 70% are still not awake to it in churches and it’s not being taught.

I;m awake…and watching Israel! My friends laugh and think I’m silly…bored etc….I am hoping that at least 1 hopefully more will take me more seriously. Fortunately, My daughter now believes that we are in the last days after the oil spill.

Not sure why Rome is considered here. In Daniel why are shown the fourth comes from one of the four divisions of Alexanders Greek Empire. Namely the northern kingdom formerly known as the Seluecid.

As chapter 11 begins with the defeat of the Persian Empire by Alexander’s. Then the division of the Greek with particular attention given to leagues and conflicts between the northern and southern kingdoms up until willful king and Michael the Prince.

I was just speculating about the symbolism, if it held true in Revelation the same way it might apply to the book of Daniel and Zechariah. It may or may not be true. There is a geographical overlap between the Grecian and Roman empires, but the actual final empire is of ancient Grecian origin. Time will tell as to what will be the final events.

I just had a vision/dream this morning of the white horse rider of Rev.6 and heard the words, war with Iran. It’s been a few hours ago but I’m still feeling it. I preached a few weeks ago and the Lord said the day of the Lord is at hand. I get the feeling that the white horse rider has begun his ride. Shannon

You may be very correct. I am still waiting for the Ezechiel 38 war to happen. I am not sure if the Ezechiel war is also the same war as Armageddon, war with Iran or not. It is a wait and see, and be prepared, kind of time for us.

Rev.6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

In this verse, who (is,are) the one whose name is “DEATH” that sat upon the pale horse and why (HELL,OR GRAVE OR SHEOL) is following DEATH.

hi, cool site. I am totally persuaded that the colour of the horses as indicated in the bible indicate the colour of the spirit (zech. 6:5) that work on earth during their fullfilment.
so if we look at each of these colours we can see the spirits that are indicated by the horses. 1. red (red china, red russia, what do you see here… comunism? you are right) rev.6:4..And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword. (1.stalin killed 20 million of his own people for the sake of communism, in china 60 million people were killed for the same reason… the communists themselves kill each other 2.look china and russia … their millitary power, a great sword 3. there always been taken peace away where communism emerged) you may check the rest of the horses on the web site where i study the book of revelation.
God bless all

I find all of this talk fasiating yet I sometimes wonder if it takes or attention off of where it needs to be. I am not saying that we should not study these things, I think it very important; to know the times and the seasons. I just pray that we are all giving the time to fill our lamps for the coming day. Will we all be wise virgins on that day?

There is a menu on the right side, with various topics. I also talk about holiness, repentance, getting close to God, knowing Jesus for who He is, discerning false vs true doctrines and people, dealing with evil, persecution of believers, prayer, and general christian behavior in a secular world. It is not all discussion of prophecy.

We definitely need to be “wise virgins” in these last days and be prepared in every way.

I def. agree with you. I actually just came across your blog and I will say it has many of the same issue that I ponder and study. I am grateful to you that you have the time and the energy to put these things out there. I am looking forward to reading some of your thoughts on holiness and repentance. Keep it up and I am sure you will hear more from me.

Yes, it is possible that the “mark” could be symbolic, but there is too much proof of it being a literal chip in your hand or forehead. Why don’t you research the RFID Verichip – it is a chip the size of a grain of rice.

As an interesting little nugget, check out IBM RFID Commercial.

Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

I agree. There will be a physical mark. But the physical will represent (symbolize) the dark spiritual realm. In the same way, disasters like earthquakes will represent the punishment of God. Everything will have a physical manifestation because that is the only way humans, in the flesh, can be dealt with, since they have rejected God. I was just trying to explain the thinking of someone you were responding to.

May the Lord Almighty increase youe understand and meet with your spiritual needs. I thank God for youe life, for revealing all these mysteries kept to the world, I pray that, may the Lord count us worthy on that glorious day. I counted this life worth no living again than just to exercise patience in waiting for the rapture, that is where my focus is. Yesterday, right inside my office, I was striken through a site with which a man of God, David Stewart revealing so magnitudes of secrecy about false preacher, prophets and Presenters who claimed to adopt operating a gospel telecast show and are not of the Most High God, in fact, it really making my mind ugraded that no man is able to be trusted in this end time, but I am looking upto Jesus, now. God, Made me had a rapturable intouch feels within me. what happened was that, I went straight ahead to my dad in his room, there, I knew he was wearing a bathroom slippers with which I knew him with, he normally lock his room whenever he wanna step out, so, I knew he wanted to shower, and towel around his neck, so when I wanted to lay tooth paste on my brush, and I was searching for him for something, later, I called back to the room, the room wasn’t locked, I saw his slippers layed at his door step, the door were opened, I entered and to no avail I saw him not, then I paniced that has the rapture taking place? I marvelled and I said to myself within that, if Christ come now, I suppose to go, then I knew I have to get myself more prepared, when I went out, I went to check on my Mother inside her shop, then I saw her there, and I asked her, “where is dad”? then I saw my dad coming from the entrance of our house, then my mind settled. And right inside me, I knew God taught me a lesson, alerting me of the Christ coming again, this is very sure that soonest, Jesus Christ will come. May I and you all those who hope for his glorious coming, be counted worthy on that day.

Thank you for your sweet comment and thoughts. You are a blessing to me. Maybe, someday very soon, we will meet in the rapture, and we can rejoice together. The best way to live any life is – as if this were the last day on earth. We must always be ready, whether the rapture occurs, or we die a natural death.

It is to my belief that the four horse men are riding with the weather,the
wind,the storms, the flooding, the fires, there is so many fires in this world
today. the job market the bible talks about a day wages for a loaf of bread.
The food prices this part is really sprang I can’t take and buy what I could two
months ago and yet the prices doesn’t seem to have risen that much. and the pay
is only been shorten two hours.
The filling when I walk out the door it doesn’t scene to fill right.
the housing,the banks, gmc auto company’s the government is going to run the
states thy all ready changed the t.v to digital it was side thy wanted us to
have the best picture ever I think the way the whole world will see the
anti-Christ at the same time is this why Here in Arizona on election night thy
did something that was never done before thy said and that was thy beamed a
image in the news station of a woman that made her look so reel I think thats
how the anti-Christ will appear to ever one the same with Jesus

I was walking to the train station when I was 14yrs old I did not read the bible at all so I really didn’t know what was written or noted something told me not to go on that train , as I was walking with my sisters i blacked out and I seen a vision of the four horses black , white, res, and gray. And I seen myself floating in the air I felt like I was the key to let the lord in and I was there up above all the horsemens were sourrounded around me and they all left and my back was towards the earth but there was light passing through I couldn’t see anything but had a vision of what was happening down beneath me at earth I seen crying, and hiding , and running, and praying, and all the horses had there purposes but I was just a sacrificial key , a burning sensation I had within me. Like I couldn’t wake up as if I wanted to but couldn’t he would let me know when the time is near

As I walked to my grandmothers house I told her about this vision I had as I blacked out and she said that is written in the bible about the horses , I was in a shock cause I never read the bible and then to have a vision like this was scary, and it was also a good feeling, but I never persued it, I thought I was just crazy , but I always felt like this vision was trying to tell me something it always came back to me but much stronger, everytime I would go into a deep sleep I would actually feel like I’m floating like being taken a away but for some reason I would always fight it and try to wake up and when I would wake up my heart would start pounding so fast and then I would feel like I failed at what I was meant to do , and I wouldn’t know when this would happen to me again but it would just come out of know where a feeling as if I was being lifted this feeling has happened to me when I was young my mom said I was on the top bunk bed with wooden rails on the side and no ladder to come down and when she woke up she seen me laying on the floor fine as if I wasn’t hurt I remember that day very well but I thought it was all a dream. I don’t know what to do next time it happens , should I not be scared and let it takes it course I feel like I am destined to do one thing.

When I was little I would sit beside the window and I would feel like there always someone hearing me , and staying right beside me , there are times like I feel I being followed , as if the time is near , I would hear thunder loud noises it would wake me up and I would look up above at the skylight as if he was just so upsept, as if one of the horses is here already awaiting fot the other ones to follow

I am 22yrs old now , I held it inside for awhile now but Its a feeling inside me that I follow and walk with I feel like it was time to talk about this. I just feel like the. Next time this happens ill be ready and much stronger to fullfill this destiny , idk if ill be though , but its a wwonderful sensation the visions come to me every now and then but the feeling is way stronger I ask myself why me I am human like everyone else , I said to myself once god has chosen you to fulfill a purpose in this world that purpose has to be fullfilled no matter what

The visions are just breathless , it takes me away from all the suffering and tortur this world is going through it let’s me know there is peace and a spiritual world of eternity. The time has come and it will come so all you brave souls don’t give up hope

I think one of these horses is displayed at the D.I.A.
You know the place where the $787 billion dollar stimulus package was signed ….
marking ‘the beginning of the end’. in his own words.
I have found this interesting site and if you scroll to the bottom …
you will also see a depiction of an alien given birth to a child …
Here is the link … take the tour!http://www.resistnet.com/profiles/blogs/sinister-sites-the-denver

And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
Have you ever notice that there are more than 1> riders on this horse??
Power was given to THEM!!! ( plural )
1 – Death sat on him.
2 – Hell followed.

A Beast rose up out of the Sea (People,Nations,tongues) having Seven Heads and Ten Horns. This Was only One Beast, but with 7-Heads, or world rules Of the Same type of Power and Authority,
A Beast rule or Satan’s rule, The Ol Serpent Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil Beast rule. It went from Nation to Nation. In Dan-2, this Image, the Gold (Babylon) Silver (Medo/Persian) Brass (Greece) and Iron (Romans) In Daniels-2, A Stone was cut out of the Mountain (Power of God) without Hands (Virgin Birth) and Smote that Image on it Feet, then was torn down the Gold, Silver,
Brass, Iron, and Clay (The Jews had mixed with the Iron, only the
Miry (common Dirt) Clay had mixed. And the 4-winds carried them away and no place found for them (For this type of Rule, Dan-4,
tells you about this Rule ( This Tree, was Knowledge, in Gen,
Satans knowledge was the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, Man was told they could eat of every Tree, but commanded Not to eat
of This Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil,”In the Day you eat there of (future) you shall surely Die (Adam was all mankind) We have eaten of this Tree, and the Earth is prepaired unto the Day of Judgement, prepaired unto fire against the day of judgement and Perdition (Distruction) of ungodly Men (The Neclear Bombs are ready) Read my Book “The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil, By Ruth Mossing,” at amazon.com and barnesandnoble.com or my web-page below. Learn the Mystery of the Beasts, and this Tree of Knowledge that has prepaired the Earth for Judgement.

Lin
if you ever get a chance to read this i believe that youre floating sensations are out of body experiences which are experienced by several people around the world. I believe that God is truley speaking to your soul directly, by taking you out of your physical body. but i truely believe that deep inside yourself you know what it is that he is asking of you. if not then im sure will find out what it is as long as you try to follow His will for your life.
Good luck Lin, and I will keep you in my prayers
-Isaiah

I think a lot of this sounds like self prophecy. I think we should be careful about what we look for in the devil because I believe he is much more forward faced then all of these combinations of signs of the end. Most muslims (and other faiths for that matter) are just as interested in good and god (even if not a christian god) as christians and catholics are. Evil is everywhere and it is capable of being in all of us. There is no major catastrophe of mankind…or at least none that we can foresee. The only catastrophe is the fact that we all can’t see we are committing the greatest crimes of the history of the earth, we’re killing it. Nevermind humans or animals for that matter. We are killing the earth! No life can survive if we don’t save our home first. WAKE UP. The devil is tricking you to pay attention to our own selfishness, our own vanity, our own selves…remember there is bad in all of us…there will always be opposition and therefor war. What we need to do is shift our focus to nature, to the earth. We need to save our home before the devil takes it and ALL of life as we know it,good bad evil or whatever, along with him.

A top Iranian general said Friday, September 3: “Iran hopes there won’t be a need to target the nuclear facility of the Zionist regime, but if there is, Israel would receive dreadful retribution.” General Hasan Firouzabadi, supreme commander of Iran’s military and Revolutionary Guards armed forces, went on to say, “Our developed weapons can hit any part of the Zionist regime.”

Firouzabadi was the first senior Iranian military figure to publicly indicate Tehran readiness for the Middle East’s first nuclear war. Saturday, September 4, Israeli ambassador in Washington Michael Oren reported that Hizballah had posted in South Lebanon 16,000 rockets, altogether quadrupling the number ranged on the Israeli border four years ago (in violation of UN resolution 1701). Their range now coveres every part of Israel as far south as Eilat with enhanced precision. This would obviously include Dimona …

[Editor’s Note: The forthcoming Middle Eastern war will be far more destructive than previous clashes, and the prophetic ramifications are addressed in the DVD entitled American Magog. Although prophecy figures have for decades loudly claimed that Russia is the “Gog” figure of Ezekiel 38, Christian Media (of which GEO is a part) has categorically predicted an American identification is appropriate, and this understanding has been in print since 1992.

“[Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s government] will use the nuclear bomb against Israel, they will use it against Persian Gulf countries, and they will use it against Europe to bring about that last hadith (Islamic commentaries on sayings and activities of Mohammed and his companions) that calls for total chaos, lawlessness, and havoc in the world, which creates the circumstance for Imam Mahdi (the Islamic messianic figure) to appear.”

Iran has armed Syria, Hezbollah (the Shia militia in southern Lebanon) and Hamas (the Palestinian terrorist group that runs Gaza) with over 50,000 rockets, plus numerous other weapons. Most of the rockets are short range (about 10 kilometers), but several thousand have a much longer reach, and can hit targets throughout Israel. The Iranian master plan is for Hezbollah, Hamas, Syria and Iran to simultaneously fire as many missiles and rockets into Israel as they can. Even if there are no ground forces to follow up such an attack, the casualties (civilian and military) in Israel would be seen as a great Islamic victory, and would demoralize the Israelis. While Israeli defensive moves could do great damage to Syria, Lebanon and Gaza, Iran considers it a reasonable plan. Hezbollah, Syria and Hamas are not so sure, but Iran already has all the rockets and missiles in place.

In reading and listening to many people speak about this we are in the time of the black horse as far ai i can see. the white horse stands for the un formed after ww2 the hold treatys of false peace as the red horse which belongs to the communism era of red china and red russia great powers killing one another and held a great sword there military and now we are in a great time of un balance economically socially etc. then comes the pall horse which isnt yet but i feel will be within the next couple years or possibly decades

But also you do have to pay attention to the world histories closely as well if u notice it has been a vicious cycle which has basically repeated the four beasts several times false peace powers with a great sword un balance then hell then it circles back to peace but it is always a false peace and every time there are sickness and plagues. Also keep in mind spell out jerusalem divid it into three sections what do u get Jer!!USA!!lem a dear friend of mine pointed this out to me that has prolly been noticed for years but i just noticed recently

I want to run something by you to get your opinion. I watched the video above that Kittii left a link to with one of the connentators being Joel Rosenberg. They gave their explanation of the sequence of events going from the 4th horse and ending with the 1st horse. Maybe there was no significance to them doing that, I am not sure. How it unfolds is the way it will happen, but I do believe this was writen for His people so as not to be caught off guard. It seems to me that taking the first horse and moving to the 4th, everything happens in a logical, and if I dare say, in a natural way. The first horseman being associated with the anti-messiah (islam). This leads to the second horse which is world war. The people of Islam have pretty much covered the planet now. I cannot think of another group of people that have this ability. We can only speculate what alliances will come out of all this. The chaos that ensues will topple governments and mob rule will be the order of the day. This leading to the third horse, or basically a scarcity of food, resulting in our modern term of hyper-inflation. It seems there will be food, just very little of it driving the price through the ceiling. With a scarcity of food and a breakdown of public services everywhere, what is the outcome of that? We are seeing it in the aftermath of Haiti now. Plauge and sickness due to a lack of a sanitary environment. On a world wide scale this would be horrific. But everything is a natural progression as laid out in the laws of nature or the natural order of things. I have heard how this kind of thinking annoys religious people, becasue it seems to somehow diminish Gods power. I don’t see it that way anymore. If the result of each horse is distinct and unrelated to the former or latter, then it is as God purposed. But also, if it comes about in a natural way, it is still as God purposed. I believe that it is possible, that in the beginning,God made His creation with every scenerio that would ever happen, from the smallest form of life to the furthest reaches of our universe. Basically His soverienty, man’s free will, and the laws of nature all working together as a symphony to come to God’s perfect plan for His creation. If it seems like this diminishes God’s ability or power in anyway, just think about it. They say that if one grain of sand is moved then destiny is forever altered. God is totally sovereign. He uses everything to bring about His will. I don’t believe He baby sits with us and reacts to everything we do or don’t do. I believe this, to a degree, explains the doctrines of predestination and free will. I remember watching something on the History Channel a couple of years ago about the 10 plauges of Egypt, in Moses day. They gave a rational explanation of everything that happened in a logical sequence. It made a lot of sense, but I felt threatened by it. It couldn’t be natural, it had to be supernatural. What is the old saying, can’t see the forest for the trees. Please understand, Iam not saying he cannot and does not intervene. Can you think of anything that alludes to this or refutes this. Would be interested in knowing.

Just to clarify, I didn’t mean to make it sound like God is not involved with us personally and spitiritually in the person of the Holy Spirit. I was speaking more of the natural realm of things that surrounds us.

I think the answer is simple but we mankind being so sense oriented if we can’t see, touch, smell, taste, or hear it then its hard for our earthly minds to comprehend it, and we fear what we do not understand. There are so many things in the bible that can be misunderstood and so many people twist the bible with their own words to mean what they want it to mean. What I do know is this, Jesus died on the cross for our sins and all we have to do is confess him as our savior and believe with all your heart and soul and to walk in faith with him. And he Jesus is my faith, for I am a sinner but he gave me a way to follow and that is with him. So there are things I will not understand but will be told of them when the time comes. So what is going to happen is Gods will and it is written but I do not try to dissect the end because I walk in faith and his will shall be done. So I say to all that read this forget your earthly senses and walk in faith with Jesus and you will not have to worry about how terrible the end will be, because you will be at peace and safe with Jesus our Lord and Savior forever !!!!!!!!!!

Less than 24 hours after the breakdown of its nuclear dialogue with the six world powers in Istanbul, Iran announced plans Sunday, January 23, to send a fleet of warships, including a home-made destroyer, on operational and intelligence-gathering missions to the Red Sea and on to the Mediterranean through the Suez Canal. Parts of the fleet will in fact be deployed in the three waters around Israel’s southern and western shores.

It is a rapid response to the arrival of the USS Enterprise carrier with a strike group carrying 6,000 sailors and marines and 80 warplanes in the Mediterranean at the end of last week on its way to the Arabian Sea opposite Iran. British ex-Prime Minister Tony Blair’s call on the West to stop apologizing and react to Iran with force was not lost on the rulers of the Islamic Republic.

The Navy Commander, Rear Admiral Habibollah Sayyari spoke of three or four vessels including Iran’s first home-made destroyer, Jamaran, with back-up operational units standing by for urgent support missions. His deputy, Rear-Admiral Gholam Reza Bi-Gham said the deployment would last about a year and at some future time, long-distance submarines would join the fleet.

Iran recently purchased three Kilo class submarines from Russia and is using them in the Persian Gulf. For two years, Iranian military shipyards have been building miniature submarines, war ships and fast assault craft. Most Western naval give them low ratings in performance especially in view of their outdated electronics. However, if deployed in support of the warships assigned to the Mediterranean and Red Seas, those mini-submarines and assault craft could be extremely troublesome and give plenty of headaches to American, Israel and Egyptian naval commanders

Editor’s Note: It is self evident that Iran is positioning their naval forces for an all out war with Israel, and they clearly recognize they will be in combat with American and European naval forces in the region. These forces presently include the Israeli and Egyptian assets mentioned in the above news, but also include the French and German military which is positioned nearby due to the Iranian modeled revolution which just occurred in Tunisia.

Although military analysts rank these “mini subs” as antiquated, perhaps this would be a good time to remind the world of the tactical mindset of the Iranian military. During the 8 year long war with Iraq under Saddam Hussein, Iran commonly utilized suicide bombers, promised a place in Allah’s heaven, to destroy multi-million dollar hardware such as tanks and artillery emplacements.

It’s hardly implausible to think these Iranian manufactured mini subs don’t need the expensive electronics required to be state of the art, as Iran has plenty of martyrs to field suicide missions. Furthermore, If a suicide bomber is willing to die to kill 200 of the enemy with conventional explosives, why not kill 2 million with a nuclear device — the very capability that is stirring the conflict in the first place.

The fact is, all these steps have been thought out and planned for a very long time, and the fact that it is prophesied that Iran will lose this conflict is little solace, for in the process, the prophets also tell of a great world power that will receive a “deadly wound” — an event that will very likely occur before the year is out.

Jesus said: When you see all these things (earthquakes in divers places, banks overfloweing,(floods) famine, etc. know ye the end is near. In these end days we can see things happening all over the world, thru technology a branch of science (Television) before science developed in our last days you could not have seen these things happening all over the world.
The signs of the end are here. The Bible says that day (judgement) shall not come till there comes a falling away first, and that man of Sin is revealed,(the son of perdition or distruction) who as God sets in the Temple of God showing Himself that he is God., and apposeing all that is called God or is worshiped. Just as God was in Christ, reconciling the World unto Himself, The Angel of the Bottomless Pit In Revelation, whose Name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek is Apollyon, which both means Destroyer, This Angel of the bottomless Pit will dwell in this Man called the Son of Perdition (distruction or destroyer) Revelations says after Satan is loose, he will go out to deceive the Nations in 4 quarters of Earth, and gather them together unto Battle of great day of God allmighty (judgement day) The gog and Magog is being prepaired over in the middle east, America is being taken out of the way. Our World leadership is declining.
Look up the King is Coming. Read: “The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil,” by Ruth Mossing Learn the mystery in the midst of the Garden.http://outskirtspress.com/treeofknowledgeofgoodandevil We are in the Time of the Pale Horse, He who sat on Him was called Death, and Hell Followed.

Maybe you mis interpret the scripture brother and sister…. this is the Mystery of God revealed in Our Age…
AMOS 3:7
Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

Only the Prophets for knowed God’s Mystery…and if you do that with your own inteligent your missing God’s word

REVELATION 10:7
” But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. ”

Hi again, to explain without going into a lot off detail, the two mountains of bronze in Zechariah may have more to do with a few other therories that are out there. One being they are representations of the two bronze pillars that are at the entrance of the temple. These have specific Hebrew names. The horses coming from the throne of God, throught these to their earthly destinations could be as pictorially as leaving the temple throught the entrance between the pillars to the outer. Bronze symbolizing judgement and “the Mountains” representing either Mt Zion & Carmel or Mt of Olives as on Jews. Judgement on nations that punished Israel – angels sent for this left Gods throne through pillars to destination. Sorry this isn’t more explicit but I would suggest what I’m trying to relay is Chapters 1-8 are more to do with Zechariah’s present and near future that an end times view. Gods encouragement and protection , etc in the rebuilding of the temple and the punishment of the nations that punished Israel more than they should as the Israelites were punished for disobeying Gods commandments … Exiled to Babylon .. Etc :0)

what happens if governments are not the real kings, that if the real rulers were the rich elite! having said that could the beast with the seven heads be “the seven sisters”. I urge all to watch

even though I have stated as part of my belief before I also urge all christians to except cannabis as part of the anointing oil of exodus and james! replacing the Kannabosm mis-interpretation!
And that the anti-christ wants to block this so the two witnesses of revelation and zechariah can’t be anointed and anoint the seven churches!

conserning the four horsemen in revelations; we all know that revelations speaks in the past, present and future. it is not a book that goes like others in the bible which have a more or less to put it ; a manner of going from vrs.1 then 2 then3 etc. in order. in my own readings of revelations and of guidence of the spirit i find all four of the horseman having being set loose long, long, ago. the white is christ going forth to conquer and conquering. the second red, to take peace from the earth ie; cause wars. wars have been since the beginning. the third a black horse which has the specter of starvation. and of course the forth the pale horse who is death which has also been with us since adam and eve ate of the tree of knowledge. the strange thing i find is it says and hell followed with him you will take note it says;and power was given unto them / not him. unlike the other three. now again this has nothing to do with salvation as for us to ponder the scriptures for the answers to most scripture. so yes i could be mistaken. but i feel these have already been let loose.

I cannot understand how you can say Revelation speaks of the past present and future.

Before the visions start, in chapter 4 a voice says to John: “come up here and I will show you what must come HEREAFTER”

Which part of “HEREAFTER” do you interpret as the past or even the present?

Revelation shows prophecies of the End Times, which is from 1948 and as far as I can see, all the prophecies before the return of Christ have now been fulfilled, including the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse which was in 2001

the anti Christ will be a pope that is not elected in running for pope, as for the horsemen:
the White – Conquest
the Red – War
the Black – Famine
the Pale – Death
The woman and the beast are the Pope and the Roman Catholic Church.

Where do you think we are? I know I SEE signs. I also know there are many who seem to see absolutely nothing. I fine it amazing how all thats hidden IS BEING REVEALED! Praise JESUS! Glued to their reality TV( I use that term loosley) , or favorite sports team, celebrity…STUFF. Pointless mind blinding, time occupying, distracting STUFF! 2+ years ago I was stuck in that lonely mess of chaotic , busy STUFF. Thank you JESUS , Thank You for your Grace, and Mercy, and unbelievable amount of patience you had w me. Thank you JESUS FOR NEVER FORSAKING ME!…for forgiving me of my arrogance, and scooping me UP INTO THE SAFETY OF YOU LORD!! Praise Jesus! Please TRUST IN THE LORD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, MIND , BODY AND SOUL! If there is something wordly that you cant seem to disconnect from just ask JESUS to HELP YOU. It works, IT WORKS. Dance Music…GONE, Dr.Phil TV show GONE, no matter what it is that may keep you from JESUS, or distract you, just PRAY for Jesus to step in and help you. He will. Each day, each moment ,Jesus will hear your prayers and uplift you through any troubles, trials, and faults. I spent years trying to ” fix ” things w my own ” human ” might. THE Lord of LORDS Almighty WILL conquer all. Allow the Holy Spirit to transform you. It truly is a BLESSING!