RidgeRunner5:I don't believe the shooting was politically motivated. It seems pretty clear that the dude's mom was going to have him committed, and he acted out because of it.

What I do find interesting, is how the narrative changed as the days went on. It went from 2 pistols, to 2 pistols and a rifle left in the car, to 4 pistols, to 2 pistols, a rifle and a shotgun in the car to just a rifle and a shotgun in the car.

Blame the modern "MUST GET THE SCOOP NOW" media. They don't wait for facts, when they can be FIRST TO PRESS with random rumors and blatant lies. Truth and reality don't matter. Fear and outrage get eyeballs.

Kuroshin:RidgeRunner5: I don't believe the shooting was politically motivated. It seems pretty clear that the dude's mom was going to have him committed, and he acted out because of it.

What I do find interesting, is how the narrative changed as the days went on. It went from 2 pistols, to 2 pistols and a rifle left in the car, to 4 pistols, to 2 pistols, a rifle and a shotgun in the car to just a rifle and a shotgun in the car.

Blame the modern "MUST GET THE SCOOP NOW" media. They don't wait for facts, when they can be FIRST TO PRESS with random rumors and blatant lies. Truth and reality don't matter. Fear and outrage get eyeballs.

Exactly. To them, being first is more important than being right.

Even on local newscasts, you hear anchors talk about how their station was "the first to bring you important new details in this developing story."

As a bonus, when they're wrong, they don't even bother saying they were wrong. They just get another set of "important new details" and rush those onto the air in place of the last set.

RidgeRunner5:What I do find interesting, is how the narrative changed as the days went on. It went from 2 pistols, to 2 pistols and a rifle left in the car, to 4 pistols, to 2 pistols, a rifle and a shotgun in the car to just a rifle and a shotgun in the car.

Uh, IIRC it really only went from 2 pistols, a rifle in the school, and a rifle in the car to 2 pistols, a rifle in the school, and a shotgun in the car.

I do distinctly recall a lot of people misinterpreting the revelation of a long gun in the car to mean that the bushmaster had been in the car, but it was obviously an additional gun. That's not really the narrative's fault.

Seriously, please go back to acting. Actors that become conspiracy theorists rarely get respect in their newly-found field. And unlike Jenny McCarthy, there isn't a queue of people wanting to see you so that they can imagine you naked while you talk.

I know what you mean. Sometimes I'm all like, "I'm not reading that article. I don't have time. The world needs to know my opinion about what what I think it's about right now!"

vpb:Michael Harris opined that the shooting was carried out by an Israeli paramilitary team.....Despite compelling geopolitical and diplomatic conditions the claim cannot be verified because the identities of the two-to-four additional suspected gunmen apprehended by Newtown and Connecticut state police remain undisclosed

Grimlock2099:"For example, looking at the autopsies, much of what journalist institutions are going on are pronouncements from law enforcement authorities and the medical examiner."

I can field this one... BECAUSE NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WANTS TO LOOK AT A SHOT UP BODY OF A SIX YEAR OLD UNLESS THEY HAVE TO!!

See, that would be a rational reaction. Apparently, my ever-crazier brother subscribes to the "if'n I don't see the bodies of a bunch of dead six year olds, it never happened" outlook. He's also a regular listener to Alex Jones, Jerome Corsi, and recently added Holocaust Denial to the soup.

Seriously, please go back to acting. Actors that become conspiracy theorists rarely get respect in their newly-found field. And unlike Jenny McCarthy, there isn't a queue of people wanting to see you so that they can imagine you naked while you talk.

RidgeRunner5:I don't believe the shooting was politically motivated. It seems pretty clear that the dude's mom was going to have him committed, and he acted out because of it.

What I do find interesting, is how the narrative changed as the days went on. It went from 2 pistols, to 2 pistols and a rifle left in the car, to 4 pistols, to 2 pistols, a rifle and a shotgun in the car to just a rifle and a shotgun in the car.

Yes, it is interesting how various press operations report new information during an ongoing investigation. It's almost like there are multiple sources or a ton of speculation before details are known.

Sure. They'd been grooming the crazy kid for years, providing secret orders to the ATF to approve any and all firearms purchases by the mother. Plus they made sure the father was making plenty of money to support her gun collecting as well. Meanwhile Eric Holder used this connections to the Mexican Drug Cartels to bring up 3 shooters, 2 primary and 1 backup, to support the crazy kid, guide and direct him, make sure it was done right, etc. And then neat-as-you-please, these Mexi-shooters take out the crazy kid to keep him quiet and are on the next Greyhound to Oaxaca with nobody the wiser.

RidgeRunner5:What I do find interesting, is how the narrative changed as the days went on. It went from 2 pistols, to 2 pistols and a rifle left in the car, to 4 pistols, to 2 pistols, a rifle and a shotgun in the car to just a rifle and a shotgun in the car.

You're amazed that reporters, who are under the gun (heh) to provide news instantly, no matter how little information they actually have, might get some things wrong at first? So how many pet conspiracy theories do you have?

This is completely ridiculous. but then, I heard a few stories about how the Bush administration killed thousands of our citizens so that they could start a war, too.

Presidents are figureheads, even if O had a "personal agenda" related to increased gun control, I seriously doubt it would go anywhere due to lobbying by gun producers.

I don't think journalists are really pressing for the right types of questions

Does this guy really think that the MSM would be allowed to report on Sandy Hook being concocted in a serious light? I could see them "debunking" it in the same way that 9/11 and all other plausibly false-flag ops have been debated across the tubes, but they haven't even bothered because enough people are busy enough arguing about guns on facebook.

abfalter:That is a special kind of stupid right there. If we could bottle that kind of stupid it could be weaponized.

Sadly, not that speical.

Pretty much in line with the stupid that came out after the Aurora shootings, or Moore's film on the CO shootings, or the people who "know" Zimmerman is a racist, or what is currently happening to that town in Ohio, or 9/11 truthers, etc. etc.

Seriously, please go back to acting. Actors that become conspiracy theorists rarely get respect in their newly-found field. And unlike Jenny McCarthy, there isn't a queue of people wanting to see you so that they can imagine you naked while you talk.

You know how I know you didn't:

1. Read TFA?2. Watch Saturday Night Live in the late 70s to mid 80s (when it was good)?3. See JMC's Playboy spread and video?

Seriously, please go back to acting. Actors that become conspiracy theorists rarely get respect in their newly-found field. And unlike Jenny McCarthy, there isn't a queue of people wanting to see you so that they can imagine you naked while you talk.

Seriously, please go back to acting. Actors that become conspiracy theorists rarely get respect in their newly-found field. And unlike Jenny McCarthy, there isn't a queue of people wanting to see you so that they can imagine you naked while you talk.

The only conspiracy in play is how the media and the White House want to blame the weapons and not the shooter.

Though I will say this...

Pretty as long as Barrack Obama has been a politician, he's been a major gun control advocate. It would be fair to say that there isn't a piece of gun control legislation he hasn't loved, from his days in Chicago, to his time as a US senator to his time in the White House. Reporting on his positions on the issue of gun control is freely available and unambiguous.

Because of Obama's positions on gun control, people who oppose him politically have been been concerned that their ability to purchase certain types of firearms (or firearms at all in some cases) will be taken away and thus they have spent millions on the purchase of said weapons--semiautomatic rifles, pistols, large capacity magazines. Indeed, the revival of the gun industry that started in 2007 with the lifting of the assault weapons ban skyrocketed beginning in 2008 and beyond. Stores have quite literally run out of stocks and manufacturers had to expand production in order to keep up.

Enter Nancy Lanza. She was caught up in the gun buying hysteria like many others and purchased an AR-15 style semiautomatic rifle along with other firearms. It would be fair to say that had there not been a rush to purchase such weapons, the looming threat that they would be banned, along with a severe economic crisis, she would have likely put off purchasing some or all of the weapons in her possession. After all, she had a mentally challenged adult son who was on medication for his illness, one she had ended up home schooling because he had anxiety issues and one whom she was contemplating having institutionalized--not an inexpensive proposition, particularly in an era of mental health funding treatment cuts both in the public sector and through insurance plans.

Barrack Obama didn't pull the trigger at Sandy Hook Elementary any more than he did in Colorado, nor did any secret government special ops team. It would however be fair to say that Barrack Obama and his administration, intentionally or through stupidity, created an environment of paranoia that helped to create Adam Lanza. If the NRA has blood on its hands, so does he--actually even more so. "I'm not going to take your guns away" was always followed up by "but someday soon I'll make sure you can't buy any more." If you can't see where that would generate a national buying spree of weapons, then God help you.

Supporters of Mr. Obama will now imply or flat out say I'm a moonbat. Have fun with that. I won't be listening.

Seriously, please go back to acting. Actors that become conspiracy theorists rarely get respect in their newly-found field. And unlike Jenny McCarthy, there isn't a queue of people wanting to see you so that they can imagine you naked while you talk.

Seriously, please go back to acting. Actors that become conspiracy theorists rarely get respect in their newly-found field. And unlike Jenny McCarthy, there isn't a queue of people wanting to see you so that they can imagine you naked while you talk.

Kuroshin:Blame the modern "MUST GET THE SCOOP NOW" media. They don't wait for facts, when they can be FIRST TO PRESS with random rumors and blatant lies. Truth and reality don't matter. Fear and outrage get eyeballs.

To be fair, there's not much "modern" about the GET THE SCOOP OUT NOW mentality. That's been going on for almost as long as there have been newspapers.

hdhale:Barrack Obama didn't pull the trigger at Sandy Hook Elementary any more than he did in Colorado, nor did any secret government special ops team. It would however be fair to say that Barrack Obama and his administration, intentionally or through stupidity, created an environment of paranoia that helped to create Adam Lanza. If the NRA has blood on its hands, so does he--actually even more so. "I'm not going to take your guns away" was always followed up by "but someday soon I'll make sure you can't buy any more." If you can't see where that would generate a national buying spree of weapons, then God help you.

Supporters of Mr. Obama will now imply or flat out say I'm a moonbat. Have fun with that. I won't be listening.

You won't be listening or responding because you're probably paralyzed from all the twisting and contorting this post took.

bacongood:abfalter: That is a special kind of stupid right there. If we could bottle that kind of stupid it could be weaponized.

Sadly, not that speical.

Pretty much in line with the stupid that came out after the Aurora shootings, or Moore's film on the CO shootings, or the people who "know" Zimmerman is a racist, or what is currently happening to that town in Ohio, or 9/11 truthers, etc. etc.

I don't think Zimmerman is a racist. He might be, might not. But I am pretty convinced that he was a wanna-be vigilante moron.