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Topic: help please (Read 9478 times)

hi, i was tested " inconclusive " by that little 20 min test(one line was clear and the other line was slightly appearing

so, then doc said its happening with tests, its normally happens when its negative, but when its positive- its clearly shows that its positive, and i should not worry about it and comeback next day for the new test if i want(coz they was closing)

so i wasn't sleeping all night, just staring at my self in the mirror and sad thinking about what should i do in case if I'm poz, had some money saved in my bank (low fife figure), so thought, should i leave all money to my mother and die on my own, or go travel around the world before I'll spend it all and die after...

so that's how crazy it was,

so the following morning i came back to doc, thx god, he didn't make me wait, he was trying to chat me up a bit, but i wasn't much for it(just staring blind) so he understood and done test asap

20 minutes later test came back -Negative..., so he said, i have to smile at least, i said thank you and have been visiting psychotherapist for next months to came back to reality

again, i thought had recovered from this, and I've been reading all this forum to find out more about hiv, i was feeling normal bf today!

when i browsed tru old post today, called - "when you've been diagnosed" i found post of one of the members:

The poster you quote was only recently infected and in the process of seroconverting when he tested. Forget about his case and let's concentrate on YOU, ok?

For a start, in order for us to be of any help to you, we need to know more. Why are you testing and when did the incident you are concerned about happen? Without this information, we can't really give you any assessment of your situation.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

i was tested, as at first i have visited doctor for some other issue, I'm a girl and my period was not appearing for three months, i was so convinced that I'm pregnant,felt sick, (vomiting) and looked like my belly gets harder thought had 5 tests done and they all was pregnancy negative, so its why i gone to doctors to check this out, and after my another pregnancy negative test was done, he convinced me to check on all std's and HIV ("as I'm there already" )

and by the way, the next day, when i had my hiv ( 20min) neg test done, they took blood for other stds( syphilis, hepatitis a/b and something else(don't remember what),they said, they will call if something, so they never called and i called my self to find out all these were negative..

so the question is, as they took my blood for all these other tests, they would know if i hiv poz?

me- female, 24, have had lots of cases of unprotected sex in the past(boyfriend/lovers/one night stands)(as per lack of hiv education ), before that only checked ones, when was 18yo (neg) when was going to go some arab country on holls, that was needed for visa at that time, i didn't go at the end..

but why thirtysomething gone testing the day after he was tested neg? why it didn't convince him?

as my case is like his- inconclusive/neg/ no tests after.. - rest only

and that bf, i was having unprotected sex for 1 year, he said his don't have HIV, and was very annoyed and angry that i banned him of unprotected sex straight after, as he said-"if i would have HIV, you would have it as-well by now", I'm pretty sure, he thinks, the reason for my "strange/protected" behavior is that i had sex somewhere else and cached some std

but i don't believe him, and think, its possible not to get infected at first times(even if with hiv poz) but get infected after a while, so its better stop, then carry on...(am i right??)

Again, forget the other poster - I'm only interested in what's going on with you.

The ONLY test that will reveal your hiv status is an hiv antibody test. A test at six weeks or more after your last unprotected incident of intercourse is a very good indication of your status, but must be confirmed at the three month point.

Exposure to hiv does not automatically mean infection. It is possible to not be infected the first time you are exposed, but the more times you take that chance, the more likely it is you will end up hiv positive. If you do not know your boyfriend's hiv status, you need to use condoms with him, regardless of whether or not you've been going unprotected in the past. If your boyfriend has never been tested, he should test. Testing is the only way to know HIS status, he cannot go by your results.

When was your last unprotected encounter with anyone? This is the crucial thing we need to know so we can advise you whether or not you need further testing.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Huh, kill me Ann, but my last unprotected sex was after my neg test done, i was highly intoxicated by alcohol party and let him do it again,

that was a month ago, now i/we taking time on my own(over this incident) and not sure if we go back together, as i feel he used my intoxicated status, coz I've told him of unprotected ban previously!

by the way, while i was here, waiting for answers and help, to take my mind of this, i started collecting the dogs and other animals from your site, as i see how you love them that much, never saw so many dogs in one forum, thought to wind you up on that one first (by asking if thats has something to do with being hiv+), but changed my mind soon after, so not asking..

so i collected dogs, cats and other animals from here, and made a poster 4 u coz u so caring people, hope you enjoy my art

You do need further testing. A test at six weeks would be a very good indication of your true hiv status, but a negative result at that time MUST be confirmed at the three month mark.

Symptoms, or even the lack of symptoms, mean absolutely nothing when it comes to hiv infection. Don't start symptom hunting, only a test will reveal your hiv status.

Do you really want to be with a man who would take advantage of you while you're drunk, to have unprotected intercourse with you when he has no idea of his hiv status? This is no joking matter. It's playing roulette with your health.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Well, sensitive or not you do need to get tested again at 13 weeks to confirm that you are still HIV negative.

Just in general you need to know that neither the presence nor the absence of symptoms will ever tell you anything reliably about your HIV status. Only an HIV test done at the appropriate time can give you that answer.

Mixing excessive drinking and impulsive sex is a very dangerous combination so you need to stay on the alert for that in the future. And if there's any doubt about a condom being used then keep a supply handy on your own so there's no question about it again.

In the meantime while you're waiting to take the test again, if you stay productively busy you will be amazed at how quickly the time can pass. Really.

YES. IT VARIES FROM PERSON TO PERSON, BUT SOME CAN GO A DECADE OR MORE AND REMAIN ASYMPTOMATIC.

2. the docs, when taking blood for all other decease do not see the HIV virus?

THE ONLY WAY TO KNOW ABOUT HIV IS VIA A SPECIFIC HIV TEST AND A PATIENT'S CONSENT IS REQUIRED FOR THAT. EVEN WITH THE NEW CDC GUIDELINES A PATIENT MUST BE INFORMED AN HIV TEST IS BEING DONE ALTHOUGH WRITTEN CONSENT IS NOT GOING TO BE REQUIRED.

and one new one:

1. everybody here says oral sex - is no risk, but everywhere I'm googling, it says- yeah- risk, and also few respectful members here stated by getting virus trough oral sex, so i cant have unprotected oral sex aswell, Right?

IF YOU KEEP GOOGLING LONG ENOUGH YOU WILL FIND SOMEONE WHO SAYS POPCORN CAN GIVE YOU HIV. THEORETICAL RISK IS DIFFERENT THAN ACTUAL RISK. THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY CONFIRMED CASES OF TRANSMISSION VIA ORAL BEING PERFORMED ON YOU. AS FAR AS GIVING ORAL TO A GUY, THERE HAVE BEEN A VERY FEW CASES AND EVEN THE ACCURACY OF THOSE ARE QUESTIONABLE. THERE IS MUCH MORE CONFIRMED EVIDENCE VIA SEVERAL LONGTERM STUDIES OF SERO-DYSTONIC COUPLES IN WHICH THERE WAS LOTS OF PROTECTED INTERCOURSE AND UNPROTECTED ORAL. THE RESULTS WERE NO INFECTIONS OF SERO-NEGATIVE PARTNERS.

IF YOU CHOOSE TO SEEK OUT THINGS TO FEED YOUR FEARS ON THE WEB YOU WILL CERTAINLY FIND THEM. ALL TO NO GOOD PURPOSE OF COURSE, BUT YOU WILL HAVE TO DECIDE ABOUT HANGING AROUND ON THAT VERY SLIPPERY SLOPE.

IF YOU KEEP GOOGLING LONG ENOUGH YOU WILL FIND SOMEONE WHO SAYS POPCORN CAN GIVE YOU HIV.

i have counted at least three member in this forum claimed getting virus by giving oral , and couple of members who has no idea, where they get hiv from( so could be from receiving oral, as they dont count it as a risk?)

whatever you do, you must inform your partner about your status before anything happening, its their choice to risk or not to risk

unprotected oral - it is possible risk( actually confirmed by members here)

"less risky or more risky" does not give a sence, (its something, like guessing : am i lucky, less unlucky or more unlucky)

gnom,

I removed the above post from the thread you posted it in in the Living forum. You are not supposed to be posting in that forum and if you'd bother to read the Welcome thread at the top of this forum, you'd already know that. Please don't let me find you posting in the other forums again. I've also removed the blank post you left behind in another thread in that forum. Stay out of the Living forum, you're not hiv positive. You are in NO position to give advice anywhere on these forums. Keep ALL your addtional thoughts and questions in THIS thread and this thread ONLY.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

so i called NHS to order pep( to keep at home or take with me when I'm travel for urgent cases)

they called me the names and said they cant help me, i only can get pep if I'm infected and even they said, it doesn't mean ill get pep even if i come , as doc will decide to give or not to give..and all that crap

so, ofcource, i wont let people treat me like an idiot, and put me at risk in case i will be traveling, or will get raped or anything else....! so they can stick this pep in to their arses and i would sue them if i ever get infected, as recorded DECLINER of pep to my mobile!

SO THE QUESTION IS:

i know one online pharmacy, sometimes i buy stuff from there like prozac or contraceprics or sleeping pills (thats cool, as u can not get meds without prescription here in uk, even contraceptics!) and everything , so they sell following:

Of course they shouldn't give you PEP. The very notion of you carrying HAART medications about in case of god-knows-what happening is just ridiculous. These medicines are extraordinarily expensive and not to be wasted on Worried Wells such as yourself.

I'm getting a little tired of asking you to stay out of this forum. This is the LAST time I'm going to ask you. Next time you get a time out.

Ann

what is your problem, Ann, what have I've done wrong?? i wasn't hijacking the tread, just asked, coz its been long since imaginefl posted updates, so i was worried sick about her and asked the end, but i assumenow- no more love if no more posts!

anyways, you hijacked the tread, so what is yr problem? if you want only poz+ ppl in the forum, why don't you make it private? and why other hiv- can post here, but i cant???and all I've done, just asked the question!

or you may encouraging people to get infected just for the right to participate in discussion??!

You have a lot to learn. PEP does not guarantee you will not get HIV. If you think PEP is the morning after pill, you're highly mistaken. What will guarantee you staying HIV free is protection and knowing what is a risk and is not. Sex and drinking to the point you don't know what is going on is one of your problems. You should think about your actions. You won't let people treat you like an idiot? Then quit acting like one.

Scared, you may not like or agree with the policy that formerly worried are not supposed to post in HIV positive sections.

Excepting for those who maybe HIV negative but have a mate or someone close with whom they are dealing with living with HIV issues, these sections are off limits.

That is our policy so please respect it.

gnom,

I've quoted something that Andy said to another poster only yesterday because it applies to you too - and it shows you that you are not being discriminated against. This is our policy and it applies to you and others as well. This is your very last warning about posting in the other forums aside from here and Off Topic. Do it again and I'll give you a time out, no further warnings or questions asked.

Taking PEP isn't like popping a couple paracetamol for a headache. These are highly toxic, extremely expensive drugs that have to be taken for 28 days. All told, a complete course of PEP costs around Ģ1000 so it's hardly surprising that you aren't being handed them on a silver platter "just in case". And as I said, they are highly toxic and sometimes fatal side-effects can be associated with them, therefore they MUST be taken under close doctor's supervision. They aren't Smarties. PEP is serious stuff.

Like Matty says, just make sure condoms are being used for intercourse and you won't need PEP. If you get raped, you will have to go to hospital anyway and you will be given PEP then if you need it. It a decision for a doctor to make, not you.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

i need to buy, as i'm going to Ibiza and if somebody rape me or put some drugs in my drink in the club ad rape me or injure me in the club,or will want to infect me on purpose in the club with syringes , or whatever else will happen, weird stuff happening always, even in druggy countries, which you think never happen to you!and im at hgh risk, as I'm a beautiful girl and people always want to fuck me

so anything can happen, the hospitals there doesn't speak English i heard , and may not have pep, or may not give me

Sustiva isn't one of the drugs normally used in PEP, and in order for PEP to be effective, more than one drug is usually given. If you're worried about not being able to communicate with the health care workers in Ibiza, then stop and consider what will happen to you if you have a life-threatening reaction to the drugs you propose to take.

And by the way, can I ask why you are using different usernames while posting to our forums? Thus far, you have also used secretforces

Please realize that this kind of activity is disrespectful of other forum members, as well as our moderators. People spend a considerable amount of time helping others in these forums. Using multiple accounts is at the very least annoying, if not deceiving and disrespectful of others. It is also against our Terms of Membership which you agreed to when you became a member. This information is also contained within the Welcome Thread, which you should have read by now. So really, you have no excuse.

You must realize that the answers won't change, no matter how many names you post under.

I would appreciate a reply to this message, and I hope you will commit to using just one account - preferably your original one. If not, you will be banned from further access to the forums.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

I don't buy the flatmate story one little bit. Funny how you two write in the exact same inept manner. Stick to gnom from now on or be banned. Simple as that.

If you bothered to read my post more carefully, I said " All told, a complete course of PEP costs around Ģ1000". I was including the costs of lab work and clinic time, as well as the drugs. Besides, you are getting your prices from on-line pharmacies and I am considering prices paid by the NHS.

You do what you want - you obviously know more than any of us here or the clinic you spoke to or even the BHIVA. Good luck with the crazy.

And by the way, when people say "fuck you" to you, it's not because you're pretty and they want to fuck you, they're just reacting to your insufferable attitude.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

If your doctor has prescribed you to take RETROVIR, then click the 'Buy Now' button to View RETROVIR prices from all the pharmacies that carry this medication. And your doctor has not prescribed this medication.

Gnom, in a very short time you have managed to become hostile while making what I can only characterize as ridiculous and/or paranoid comments planning for your rape and pillage on holiday. And wondering why people wonder at you deciding from the heights of your ignorance that you will obtain and self-prescribe PEP.

Rather than going to Ibiza, I suggest your time and money would be better spent seeing a mental health professional to discuss this track you have set yourself on.

This is ordinarily a very supportive Forum, yet in a no time at all you have managed to alienate a number of people.

Having already used another name you are on shaky ground and close to being banned. So before you snap back with something yet more hostile, take a breath and step back.

In any case I don't see that we have anything more to offer you here so maybe best of all is if you simply move on.

gnom, if you do not like how this forum is ran. Then you are free to seek out another forum.

i have reviewed the welcome tread and have not fond rules that members not allowed to respond in the other members tread, its only says

"Please do not post questions that you have about your own concerns in another person's thread. This is called thread hijacking and we do not encourage this practice"i have not started my tread here!, just responded with helpful information, coz i had same issue!

you welcome to read welcome tread! exactly I'm free to seek out in other forums, and in other forums and in this forums, and will seek wherever i want, not scared of your dictatorships despotic control , what r you so afraid of me? that i will find the truth?

Take your paranoia elsewhere. You have said your piece. If your motivation is to help, do not detract the discussion in this thread. OK you were misunderstood. Fine, you mentioned that. Sort everything else out in PMs - as you won't help progheadd at all....and that was your intention to help him. So do so by not going on and on...I encourage everyone else to do the same.

i have not started this, tell that to rapidrod, he have insulted me in this tread and he got respond in the same place at the same manner..

.. would he be ph'ing me , he would get the respond by pm, i don't accept people treating me like Shit, whatever "privilege" they have in here being positive or negative ...................(exact smile is not available on here)

As I said, you have already said that. So why say it again. If you get banned, it will be your own doing.

Rich - who doesn't have banning powers

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NB. Any advice about HIV is given in addition to your own medical advice and not intended to replace it. You should never make clinical decisions based on what anyone says on the internet but rather check with your ID doctor first. Discussions from the internet are just that - Discussions. They may give you food for thought, but they should not direct you to do anything but fuel discussion.

in xxx years people will cure HIV and other diseases by replacing body parts with robot body transplants, brain replace with computer with memory card, so ones they will replace it all, no blood will be needed, so no more HIV ,people will be able to chose their own appearance, no food will be needed, just a battery charger ,and will live forever, how cool is that!

huh,..., wish, i would be born xx years later, i cud maybe jump in to the train, fu$king politicians spending money on wars instead of technology and medicine

I've removed your hijack of progheadd's thread (along with the replies you got) and put it here, in your own thread. You are in no position to be giving advice to anyone here, so please, keep all your additional thoughts or comments here, in your own thread.

As has been mentioned, if you don't like the way this forum is run, feel free to find another, or maybe use one of those domain names you claim to have bought. You are very close to being banned here.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

I've removed your hijack of progheadd's thread (along with the replies you got) and put it here, in your own thread. You are in no position to be giving advice to anyone here, so please, keep all your additional thoughts or comments here, in your own thread.

Ann

WHY DONT YOU PUT THAT IN RAPIDROD TREAD!?, IT IS HE HIJACKED THE TREAD, NOT ME! R YOU BLIND OR JUST ACTING?

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