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All that work made Peyton a better regular season QB but he still lacks that starpower when the lights shine brightest....

You can prepare for pressure and Ben is still a much better QB when the pressure is on.

Peyton's had success when the lights shine brightest. IMO, the light shines bright every week in the NFL.
The pressure is on for QBs to perform well every week.

How do you define pressure?? 4th QT comebacks?? Playoff wins? Peyton helped his teams win playoff games and a SB. People often like to continue to row a boat and continue down that river as if it's absolute. Both QB's had their share of successes, failures, strengths, and weaknesses. Ben wasn't to good under pressure in his first SB. Ben wasn't to good under pressure the past two seasons. Now the the Steelers defenses are not as good the Steelers struggle to make the playoffs.

At the end of the day, and what separates Peyton from Ben is consistency. Peyton has been a more consistent player. He's probably been a harder worker than Ben. I believe that if Ben worked close to as hard as Manning then he would be a better player at this point of his career. As a result, every player around Ben would be better.

Either QB could play on my team. If my pick were between Peyton and Ben then I would take Peyton. That's not a knock on Ben. I know a better player when I see one.

Peyton's had success when the lights shine brightest. IMO, the light shines bright every week in the NFL.
The pressure is on for QBs to perform well every week.

How do you define pressure?? 4th QT comebacks?? Playoff wins? Peyton helped his teams win playoff games and a SB. People often like to continue to row a boat and continue down that river as if it's absolute. Both QB's had their share of successes, failures, strengths, and weaknesses. Ben wasn't to good under pressure in his first SB. Ben wasn't to good under pressure the past two seasons. Now the the Steelers defenses are not as good the Steelers struggle to make the playoffs.

At the end of the day, and what separates Peyton from Ben is consistency. Peyton has been a more consistent player. He's probably been a harder worker than Ben. I believe that if Ben worked close to as hard as Manning then he would be a better player at this point of his career. As a result, every player around Ben would be better.

Either QB could play on my team. If my pick were between Peyton and Ben then I would take Peyton. That's not a knock on Ben. I know a better player when I see one.

Ben didn't have the advantage of being raised by a former NFL quarterback either but he's still been successful despite not being a fortunate son.

Archie Manning is one of the worst QBs in the history of the NFL. His best record as a QB was 8-8, his worst was 1-15. And he threw for more than 20 TDs in a season only once, whereas he had seasons where he threw 20 or more INTs four times.

I don't think being raised as a QB by the likes of Archie Manning is an advantage.

“We'll do the same thing that we always do. We'll take every situation from week to week and do what we think is best for that week and evaluate it on that basis.” - Bill Belichick

Archie Manning is one of the worst QBs in the history of the NFL. His best record as a QB was 8-8, his worst was 1-15. And he threw for more than 20 TDs in a season only once, whereas he had seasons where he threw 20 or more INTs four times.

I don't think being raised as a QB by the likes of Archie Manning is an advantage.

You beat me to it. I didn't realize he never had a winning season. I knew the Saints had some futility, but I never paid much attention to how much futility they had. Geesh, it has to be almost as difficult to lose that many games as it is to have a winning season occasionally.