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Friday, June 29, 2012

An Update From The Colorado Springs Burnt Bigfoot Story, Conference At 3PM?

UPDATE: I received another email on this developing situation. The Bigfoot died during the night. They wrapped it in wet towels and did everything they could to ease it's suffering, but it wasn't enough. They said it seemed that there was a lot of damage from smoke inhalation. The creature's breathing was very labored from the beginning and became progressively worse, up until it expired. The University of Colorado was contacted yesterday afternoon and told about the situation and a team arrived this morning and removed the body. Two members of the research group flew to Boulder, where the body was taken. The presser is now scheduled for 3:00 PM mountain time. The email didn't give details about who would be present at the press conference. That's all I know at this time. - Anonymous

When we read this latest update, we had to wonder just how far this person who originally broke the details regarding the burnt Bigfoot is going to go? There are some great stories from years ago about blazes and Bigfoot and we'll be posting three related articles here after the break. Please bear in mind that all of these stories are just that-- stories. From previous experience with these sorts of claims, especially when there's any anticipation involved, the stories tend to fall apart rather quickly. According to Guy Edwards' 5 stages of a Bigfoot hoax, one of the stages is delaying the evidence until the hoax is realized. Inevitably, the hoaxer/victim will claim they were hoaxed by others involved. The Georgia Bigfoot hoax of 2008 was no exception to this rule and poor Tom Biscardi barely escaped the wrath of the general public by threatening to sue Rick Dyer for hoaxing him.

Over the years, tantalizing accounts of Bigfoot and wildfires have been more than just "Class A" sighting reports. Alleged bodies recovered and government cover-ups are added to the mix. One story that reads like it came straight out of a science fiction novel. It was about a Bigfoot that was rescued in 1999 from a blaze in Battle Mountain, Nevada. In the story, officials treated a male Bigfoot for burns and the account was allegedly hidden from the public. Author and science teacher at the time, Thom Powell maintains that the story may have been a conspiracy to cover-up the existence of Bigfoot:

American Science Teacher say's it was a cover up: Bigfoot injured by a forest fire was taken away and hidden by the authorities

On August 6, 1999, Battle Mountain, Nevada, exploded into several simultaneous range fires in what would be known as the Battle Mountain Complex Fire. A Bigfoot was hurt in the fire according to an anonymous government employee, who alerted the Bigfoot Field Research Organization (BFRO). The story was later dismissed but acclaimed author and science teacher Thom Powell believe it really happened and that the whole story was an elaborate cover-up.

In a letter to BFRO dated "7 August 1999, Battle Mountain, Nevada" the anonymous government employee, states:

"I observed an animal wounded by fire moving on all fours not like a bear. More like ape. Fire fighters captured animal, contacted local vet and medical doctor. U.S. Department of Fish and Woldlife, Department of Interior, and Bureau of Land Management on the scene.

Animal tranquilized and moved to unknown location. Those at scene told not to talk about what they saw.

Animal approximately 7.5 feet long/tall, human like arms and legs, face not like man or ape but mixed between. Genitalia: male, uncircumcised and human-like. Hair covering most of body except chest, chest has hair but sparse, hands with sparse hair, palms bare, with five digits with human opposition of thumb and 5th digit.

Multiple burns

Speech - attempted to communicate with care-givers once it realized they were attempting to care for it. Multiple burns on hands, feet, legs and body; some 2nd and 3rd degree burns, using "rule of nines" approximately 45 per cent of body with burns.

Doctor and Vet working together providing care and moved it to unknown location locally. This notice given in violation of orders given by BLM, DOI and DF&W. Witnesses numbered in the area of 30-25. Word is out in the government agencies, and among the firefighters, since an M.D. was called out. Many thought a firefighter was injured.

Please note that I am a government employee of one of the listed agencies fighting bruse fire in wilderness area of Nevada (large scale fire approximately 70,000 acres burned) and under orders not to disclose information.

Protected area

I believe a cover up is in the making, people need ro know, the animal needs to be kept alive and studied and released in protected area".

The BFRO didn't know what to believe and on top of that they had been unable to verify that there had been a fire in the Battle Mountain area. Thom Powell: "Late Monday (August 9) I was finally able to determine from Forest Service sources that there was most certainly a large range fire in this area of Nevada".

The Battle Mountain Complex Fire had extended to 180,000 acres by Monday and had 610 personnel fighting it at that time.

Nothing else was heard from their witness despite e-mail attempts to reach him. Then, some ten days after the initial report, the witness contacted their BFRO investigator by phone. Here is parts of the report that the investigator prepared after speaking with the witness:

Strict anonymity

"Much to my surprise, tonight at about 9 PM the reporting party of the Battle Mountain incident callerd me. I talked with the gentleman for about 70 minutes. Although he is maintaining strict anonymity, I was able to put together a bit of a profile of the individual.

This fellow, whom I will give the pseudonym 'Marty', is a male, full-time worker for a federal agency. Currently he is involved in the joint fire fighting efforts in Nevada. He has extensive EMT training and experience.

He says that until this incident he had "seen it all" in fire fighting, and these days he stays mostly in the truck manning the radio. He is friendly, but not effusive. He is intelligent, likable, and fairly observant, but he isn't outstandingly articulate. He is a matter-of-fact, low-key, seen-it-all kind of character.

Very tired

His regular duties may be in personnel, as he mentioned that tomorrow he would be seeing the M.D. involved in this incident about other matters regarding firefighting crews. It was abvious during our conversation that he was very tired. Our talk ended with 'Marty' saying he had to get to bed to get some rest.

Approximately 20 people were in the immediate vicinity of the incident. All were debriefed and informed in no uncertain terms that this incident was not to be discussed. There has not been a word about the incident at the BLM fire HQ.

He is very concerned about keeping his job, and says he would not look forward to taking a lie detector test. He created an e-mail address exclusively for reporting this incident.

Absolute privacy

Although I had originally encouraged him to call me collect this lengthy call was on him so he could maintain absolute privacy. He is reporting the incident because he belives the information should get out. We agreed in any future communication to use the term "patient" to describe the sasquatch. I'll use it here.

The incident happened in the early afternoon. About 20 fire fighters were directly involved. The injured patient appearantly wandered within sight of the fire crew, and was then surrounded.

The patient "seemed to know that he was captured", because he soon gave up. Marty mentioned this several times - "he just gave up". The patient sat down on his buttocks, giving no evidence of a will to resist. "Like a dog gives up, and then you can do anything with it".

Singed hair

The patient was laid out on the ground at first. His injuries were rather serious, including burns to the hands, feet, legs, and trunk, as well as much singed hair.

It didn't take long for medical services to get to the scene. The attending medical team included the regular M.D. for the fire crews, a vet that Marty didn't recognize, and one or more paramedics.

The vet was taken aback at working on a creature so human-like, and he is reported to have allowed the physician to do most of the work. At some point Demerol and morphine were administred.

The patient was placed on a spine board, which was too small. He was then placed on a regular ambulance stretcher. The sides were left down because part of the body hung over too far. The feet hung off the end.

Bowel sounds

A cut-down was performed to obtain an intravenous line, and fluids were administered. During the treatment of his wounds and the efforts at life support, the patient communicated with moans, groans and grumbling. Bowel sounds were heard by Marty, who was as close as three feet from the patient.

No language-like vocalizations were heard. The patient responded to touch: specifically patting and stroking to calm him ("You're not going to find an ape or a monkey responding the same way").

Two or three times Marty mentioned that the patient was especially responsive to a young Native American woman who started ministering to him right from the very beginning.

The patient was removed from the scene in the back of a utility truck, not in an ambulance. Marty said an ambulance would have alerted townsfolk and possibly news reporters, thinking that a fire fighter had been injured. No one would follow a nondescript van. The total time from initial sighting to extraction was estimated at three hours.

Blood were leaking

There was no urination, defecation, or vomit at the scene. The patient did not eat anything during that time. Serum and blood were leaking from the burned areas of the body.

The area of the arm on which the cut-down was performed was shaved. The hair probably fell to the ground. There was significant blood from the cut-down site and from the subsequent insertion of a venous line, and some of that blood dripped to the ground.

No one knows where the patient was taken. No video cameras were on the scene to film any aspect of the incident. The fire commander was present. He had a camera, and he did record what he saw.

The patient is described as being about seven feet tall - "Give or take a few inches". Marty does not give a weight estimate.

Equine odor

Most of the body is covered by brownish hair about two inches in length; no gray hairs are evident. There are no mats noted on the coat. There is an odor about the patient. It is not an especially obnoxious odor. Marty calls it a "natural" odor, but he had a hard time describing it. He said it is similar to a strong equine odor.

The head is not "sloped", the forehead is "heavy boned", the lips large, but human-like, the ears human-like and tight to the head, with the ear lobe attached, not dangling.

The patient is "strong jawed". He could not remember the color of the eyes, but thought they might be brown. The head is about two times the size of a human head. There is hair on the face, but not on the palms or soles of the feet.

Great bulk

There is great bulk to the patient, but there is no fat. He said hos observations of the form of the body did not match with "that film with the one running into the woods", and he called that film a probable hoax.

The hands are about 1.5 times a human hand; five fingers with opposable thumb. The fingernails are thicker and heavier, and one was chipped. The feet are large; five ties on each foot; no evidence of fractures, injuries, arthritis, or deformation.

The sexual features are those of an uncircumcised male, matching the human anatomy. Marty made the comment several times that these are not monkey or ape features. He felt he was in the presence of a very human creature.

Access to the area

I have asked him to return to the scene and search for the hair from the shaved arm, or even the blood that dripped on the ground. He said he has access to the area, but probably won't be able to return until after the fires are controlled".

In response to Doug's plea that someone return to the site and search for blood and hair evidence, Marty reported back to him on 26 September: "Dozer has torn up the area. Nothing left. Word is there is still life. Location unknown. Believe within couple hundred miles. Later, Marty".

Thom Powell: "Doug concluded that the dozer work seemed a bit too convenient and was likely a cover story concocted by Marty to explain away his inability to recover any physical evidence. Doug strongly suspected that the whole matter was a hoax on this basis and that is where the situation pretty much ended".

Precise detail

But Thom Powell couldn't leave the case that easily and further on continues: "It is my feeling that this person (Marty) was not lying, and this set of described events really happened. There is simply too much precise detail and a complete absence of error or contradiction".

The report was dismissed as a probable hoax and never posted for public inspection at the BFRO website, where it might have been seen by someone else who was present at the time and who might have contacted BFRO to confirm or deny the account.

Three years after the event, Thom Powell dug up the old files on the Battle Mountain matter and decided to try and send Marty an e-mail message and see what happened. Less than twenty four hours later, he was surprised to receive this reply:

Not disclosed

"Thom, I had almost forgotten about the event until now. Have not spoken due to the classification that was put on it. The patient was taken to a university or some hospital that was not disclosed. As for verification, well other than my contact with you, I know of no one other than those there on the scene. An affidavit was signed under Department of Interior, and US Forest Service as:

1. Confidential under penalty of felony arrest and jail time.

2. Immediate loss of Government Service rank, loss of retirement, and benefits.

Several meetings were held in reference to "him". I do respect his rights of life and will always be a believer of their existence beyond any shadow of a doubt as seen with my own eyes, smelled with my own nose and heard with my own ears.

Native man

His image is still visible as it was then. No monster, no animal but a linage of native man. His trust in us to take care of him and recognize him that harm was not meant when contact was made, knowing that care would be given to him... I am sure that Department of Interior knows where he may have been released.

What more can I say? Specifics, features, anatomy? Well, stand in front of the mirror and think of man's evolution".

Thom Powell: "I am left with two inescapable conclusions: First, bigfoots do exist and second, the government does mot want us to know it. The big question that remains in my mind is: Why? I can think of six possible reasons ehy secrecy might be imposed".

WHY THE BIG SECRETS? Is it that the American Government believes that the people of North America are so unstable that they could not deal with knowledge that Sasquatch really exists ?

1) GOVERNMENT PATERNALISM

It is felt by decision makers in government agencies that the public is somehow not ready to accept the stunning fact that bigfoot-style creatures exist and at least one species of primates is comfortably ensconced in the forests of North America.

Perhaps the justification for this arrogant position is derived from the Christian paradigm that humans are the sole heirs to the planet. The acknowledgement of another species so close to our own, even superior in terms of some sensory capabilities would destabilize the Christian paradigm that currently dominates western religious thought.

2) KEEP MYSTERIES CLASSIFIED

Perhaps the government entities that we trust as protectors are really just as baffled by this matter as anyone. As with the UFO phenomenon the knee-jerk reaction to government, when confronted with a genuone and profund mystery, is to classify the entire matter as a secret.

This avoids the uncomfortable alternative of having to stand up and acknowledge that the people we pay to understand threats and protect us from them have no real idea what is going on in this particular realm.

There is an axiom that may exist within government that boils down to: If we don't understand something, keep it a secret. That way no one will ever ask us to explain it.

3) LOVE OF SECRETS

People feel mire important when they have secrets that must be kept. Government agency personnel need to feel their job is important and having important secrets that must be kept serves to validate their work.

Every branch of government seems to have some kind of secret that must be protected and it is no surprise to me that the land management agencies want a secret also.

Maybe some day they will even be called to Washington to brief the President or members of Congress on the big, important secret that the public is not prepared to know. What fun.

4) THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ARGUMENT

If bigfoots were officially acknowledged, it wouldn't be long before an injunction was issued and most timber removal from federal land was halted. It is held that environmentalists will immediatly seize upon the idea, spotted owl-style.

They will then find a sympathetic federal judge who would issue an injunction that stops all logging and mining on national forests and rangelands which qualify as sasquatch habitat.

While it is probably true that preservationists would try to get the sasquatch declared as the ultimate endangered species, there is one big, but not so obvious problem with this whole line of thinking: sasquatches are in no way endangered.

They may be rare, but they are not endangered. On their own, they keep their numbers down, though I also suspect that most estimates of their numbers are too low.

It is possible that recent increase in deer populations have also precipitated an increase in bigfoot populations. They do eat deer and that is a good thing because there are not enough other natural predators to keep deer herds in check. Deer populations have exploded lately and we should hope that there are sasquatches in this world or we are soon to be absolutely overrun with deer.

Bigfoots do not seem to require virgin, old growth forests. All they seem to require is a food source and a place where they can be left alone.

Short of clearing all of the forests away at once, I for one would strenuously argue that bigfoots are in no way endagered by forest policy and there is virtually nothing we could do to reduce their numbers, even if we set about to do so.

The Wilderness Act of 1964 and subsequent amendments to it have insured the fact that sasquatches will always have safe haven.

5) NATIONAL DEFENSE

As previously stated, we will only be able to understand why the public is being denied available information about sasquatches when we know more about the creatures and their capabilities. Since that information will not come from government sources, we are going to have to find out ourselves.

We already have a good deal of information to suggest that all of the senses of these creatures are more acute than our own. Not only is their sight, hearing, and smell more acute than our own, but they quite likely possess other sensory capabilities that we absolutely lack. They can project a rancid smell much like a skunk and the smell is so overpowering as to nearly incapacitete a person.

This capability alone suggests a tactical military value in better understanding the sasquatch. I'm told that the military is already researching tactical use of overpowering but non-toxic smells.

Other possibilities relating to national defense and tactical military value may not be as far-fetched as they first seem. Infrasound has already been discussed as a concept with tactical military value.

The fact that sasquatches possess infrasound capabilities seems likely. When it comes to mental vapabilities that we humans do not have, it probably does not end there.

Every researcher I know of who has been succesful in putting themselves near a sasquatch has mentioned a sixth sense that the creature seem to possess. I have tried to quantify this matter to the best of my ability, but, to attempt to quantify such a speculative matter is futile at present.

6) GENETIC RESEARCH

The final possibility centers on the fact that sasquatches may be human ancestors of such a close lineage that their genetic makeup offers the most intriguing possibilities for genetic research and cross breeding that have ever been considered.

Sasquatches may be the enduring descendents of the Homo erectus lineage that is generally considered to be extinct. Neanderthal man, Homo neandertalensis by way of Homo heidelbergensis, is another distinct possility.

If either or both of these human ancestors endures today in the manifestayion we call bigfoot, then the possibilities for interbreeding and other genetic experiments with humans become either intrguing or alarming, depending on which side of the ethical question one stands.

Thom Powells final words are this bleak conclusion: "How tragic, yet how predictable it is that the government denies the public access to knowledge of a living human relative, an anthropological bombshell, and one of the planet's most remarkable beings".

FOOTNOTE: Do YOU know anything about The Mountain Complex Fire of August 6, 1999, in Nevada, USA and the capture of the bigfoot creature mentioned in this feature? Please email Jan Sundberg at GUST and we will forward your information to Thom Powell.

Here's an another story recently uncovered by author William Jevning about a team of Native American firefighters and their encounter with a smoldering sasquatch running from a fire. Jevning also believes that there is a concerted effort by the U.S. government to cover-up the existence of Bigfoot. He shared this story on Twitter last summer:

Bigfoot cover-up...... I have been chatting with other veteran Sasquatch researchers trying to get the picture and scope of cover-ups

I wanted to share some of the information that has been shared with me, it is very interesting. The first one will be known by those who

keep up with information being put out by individuals and organizations dealing with Bigfoot happenings, but for everyone else, I felt

this event needed to be aired to a more general audience. I will not go into the complete details, for that anyone interested can look up

onine what has been posted in its entirety. But for the sake of my inquiries I will bring it into my discussion because of its obvious

relevance. It was reported that in August of 1999, a letter was sent to a bigfoot research group by an anonymous government employee

The letter recounted an event which happened during the Battle Mountain fire in Nevada. A Sasquatch was captured during this event

The description in appearance and behavior was well documented, it was treated for burns from the fire, and taken away in the

back of a utility truck so anyone outside the ommediate persons handling it would not think a fire fighter had been injured

the writer states that approximately 20 people were in the vicinity and knew of the goings on, he states that the Bureau of land management

Depsrtment of Interior and the Department of Fish and Wildlife were involved, in fact the Doctor who treated the creature was from the Dept

of fish and wildlife. At the headquarters of the bureau of land management at the fire (incident HQ) this incident was NOT to be discussed!

The creature was assumed released in an undisclosed location

I can relate to this situation having similar details with my own two events which I posted earlier, the same agencies were involved

when I was conducting research for my book, I went to the Klammath reservation in southern Oregon, while there I was told of an incident

involving an Indian fire fighting crew, while on the line, a smoldering sasquatch ran directly at the crew, it tripped and fell leaving

hand impressions in the soft soil, it then got back up and continued running from the fire. Plaster casts were made of the hand prints

the casts were on display locally for a long time but didn't get a lot of attention, at some point they disappeared and none of the

witnesses could since be located to give statements of the event.

no one knows who took the casts, but the forest service is always involved in the conducting of fire fighting operations, so they must have

been aware of this incident at some point, did they take the casts? we may never know

This one is one of our favorites, and it has nothing to do with a government cover-up. It was a story by someone who claims they heard this story from a firefighter in northern California who experienced "huge beasts throwing logs and rocks at them":

[snippet] . . . Crap, just got back from there, told my hubby, and now I have to take him. Maybe we'll catch a glimpse with the two of us . . .

I've known a few people who've seen them, lotso them in one case. I used to work for the USFS inland 20 miles from the No. Cal coast near the Oregon border. Sorry I'm sketchy on the details was decades ago, the FS office was also the fire camp for the summer fire seasons. Many locals worked their summers as firefighters. There was a fire high in the mountains in an area unusual in the thichness of the forest, and also for the amount of water in an otherwise alpine/desert chapperal.

During a fire in one of the trough areas, some folks got caught, and tried to scramble up the creek they were following, but when they came up to a waterfall they were shocked to see huge beasts throwing logs and rocks at them. The guys said that they were making all kinds of sounds, 'yelling or screaming or something, they were really pissed!' They also said that there were different types of them, larger, smaller, hairy, not so hairy, lighter ones darder ones. I remember asking how many of them, but they could only say that they could see some go and others take their place, they said they where so stunned that they just stood there, until the debrs bring thrown at them made them realize that they 'had better get out of there before one they start to comes down after us.

They were so scared that they were able to get out in an area they had previously not thought they could, however after their adventure they had a newfound motivaiton to get back and tell somebody befofe they were taken down by the 'residents' of the fire . . . true, and a very close friend was near the coast in brookings in the coastal hills there about 10 miles inland, when one night when he was opening his gate to take his car to town, he sat in the seat to drive thru the gate and saw the bigfoot walk down a steep bank above the road, down across the road and thru a large puddle, and step off the very steep bank on the other side, all in the direct view of his headlights . . . he didn't close the gate when he left . . .! All true from folks who I've seen tell me, and I'm no expert, however I can see fear, fear of the impossible is a sight to see

Now that the Bigfoot news conference time has been moved to 3pm Colorado Springs time, it will be interesting to see if any kind of government cover-up story arises from all of this.

The last thing you do in such a situation is call a university or a gov't agency: the result in all cases is a disappearing body leaving you with nothing but accusations of lying and lunacy. But this story was surely nonsense right out of the gate.

Would one of you footers give a plausible explanation for the government wanting to cover up Bigfoot? Now I don't trust the government, but they are a predictable evil, they do things for a reason. Each time some Bigfoot believer attempts to explain their alleged motives he inevitably gives some stupid explanation like: the government covered it up because “the public couldn’t handle it” or “there would be widespread panic”, or “because they are in cahoots with the lumber industry”. All of the legitimate government cover ups that have ever come to light (that I have heard of) all had to do with military intelligence. So unless Bigfoot spies for the American government I don't think they have an motive to cover it up at all.

What if bigfoots were the result of some animal testing that had gone wrong in some military lab, and the whole sasquatch legend was used as a coverup? I'm sure its feasable that the government would not want that story getting out. Playing God with nature would look kinda bad for them. So it is plausible that maybe some bigfoot findings could have a government involvment. Just saying!

...and then fairies from a far off land arrived hovering over our charred Bigfoot, sprinkling their magical fairy dust all over him... in a swirl of light and magic sparkles, Bigfoot rose up, completely healed... like a scene right out of a Disney movie.

There won't be any pics or vids. The hoaxers "didnt have the time while trying to save BF" or "they were confiscated by the University for research purposes ".

Im a skeptic, but Im rooting for the believers. I really hope some day you get what you're looking for and we, as a society, can unite and focus on what truly matters for the betterment of our species...

Sally here - Melba is right now on her way to Boulder to extract DNA from the burnt Bigfoot. She is going to use a very long needle so that she can get past the burnt DNA. As some of you might not know, burnt DNA will give you a bad reading and it will come back identifying it as a Gerbil. I know sounds crazy, but that's just science. You don't have to understand it, just believe that we know what the hell we're talking about. We will finally have the last piece of DNA that we need to submit the paper and if all goes well, the paper will be released in late spring 2013.

Why not take a tissue sample wrather than trying by a long needle that may get some of the burnt tissue in the needle? I would like to know what channel that was supposed to be on as far as the conderence goes? Has anyone contacted the university to check on this story? If it's another fake hoax I hope the person goes to jail or gets a good butt whooping!

"We will finally have the last piece of DNA that we need to submit the paper and if all goes well, the paper will be released in late spring 2013."

Niblo here - not going to happen. She wil never release the information to the public. It's for a select group and them alone. The public will never be brought into the know. All the bigfoot shows and stuff like clothes and toys, is purley a funding scheme to keep their orginizations going. All the tidbits we here of Ketchum, Moneymaker etc.. is just to keep us fools drooling and forking over time and money to research and watch their programs. Unless you''re one of the few lucky ones to have a personal encounter, the average Joe will never know the truth.

press release? Really there is one concerning bigfoot? or just concerning the tragic fires and homes, people lost in the blaze? ;)... Seriously horrific events in Colorado my prayers go out to all and their families.

I have noticed none of you "stupid idiots" even thought of asking MY opionion!!, regarding this incredable moment in sasquatch history!! ME.. the GANDOLF OF SASQUATCHERY!! YOU DIGG!!... YOU CAN ALL GO TO HELL IN A HANDBASKETT!!!!! H, MAY...

In my handbasket will be chocolate bars, graham crackers, and marshmallows, so I can make smores for my trip to hell. I cannot contact an anonymous poster as I don't know who you are but perhaps you will have some smores with me and we will get to know each other! :)

aaaah now I understand why anonymous posting is so popular. Plausible deniability. Cowards. No anonymous poster has the right to complain about this as they are part of the problem not the solution. Carry on living your lives in existential crisis. Turns out no one thought it was real all along, funny cos I just looked back on the original posts and plenty beleived it.

Shawn, why did you describe Biscardi as "poor" Tom Biscardi? I have zero sympathy for his pathetic attempt to cover his tracks. He can claim the victim card til he's blue in the face, but do you actually feel sorry for him? Just curious, thanks.

This should be a lesson to people interested in BF. Stop believing people who say they are "in the know" or "have evidence" but won't release name, emails, or evidence. For God's sake it came from somebody who posted as an Anon who refused to show the email he/she had. Why does the BF world keep doing this to itself?

I recently streamed an episode of South Park in which Kyle Brofslofsky (sp?) said, "Anyone who says they've seen a bigfoot is either stupid or lying." I would add to that, "grossly mistaken."

What would it take for some of you true believers to STOP believing in bigfoot? It seems to me that after years and years of disappointment, shoddy "evidence", lies, blobsquatches and Vaporsquatches you would finally get it: There is no bigfoot.

Why do some people persist in believing obvious lies like alien abduction, ghosts, psychics, bigfoot, etc.?

Maybe it's time for some of you to read a few books, like Why People Believe Weird Things by Michael Shermer and (my favorite) The Demon-Haunted World by Carl Sagan.

These books will teach you critical thinking skills which will help you sort out what is true and what isn't. If bigfoot exists, these books shouldn't affect your belief at all. If he doesn't, then you are one step closer to seeing the world as it truly is.

Do you care about the truth or do you only care about what makes you feel good?

The books wouldn't help me at all. I have seen bigfoot at least twice. One was only about 75 yards from me when I was 6 yrs. old. I've seen foot prints in the middle of nowhere and heard them throw boulders, wood knock, and been stalked twice because no man could walk like that without sounding like their stomping their feet. I have talked to at least 6 witnesses myself about them. So, to me it's not a fact of not believing it's when can we get a body to prove to the most of the world that doesn't believe! Like arm chair skeptic's and lazy mo-fo's that don't get into nature at all or not often enough to look for themselves. Our native culture has talked about this for eon's even before white's came to america. So, to the skeptic's come back when you have investigated this on your own and couldn't find anything.

I'm under the presumption that the FBI, DOI, NPWS and possible components of the military have been monitoring this phenomena from a security perspective since AT LEAST the early 1960s. I know first hand how the Bureau operates, like any other federal agency, they can be disjointed and ineffective at some things, yet very proficient at others, like intelligence gathering and organization. The serial abduction/predator scenario monitored by the Behavioral Sciences Unit at Quantico, VA would be a good place to start. Ponder this ...When law enforcement/military organizations realize there exists an active predator scenario that is outside the realm of their control, they tend to really amp up their covert monitoring activities. Agents assigned to work missing persons cases receive specialized training. This is likely a detachment of the Behavioral Science Unit detachment, which closely monitors the most unusual unexplained missing person cases that fall into a certain category, such as a wilderness setting with little or no discernible leads, children within a certain age group, experienced hikers or involuntary disappearances...Yes, these creatures can pose a threat, like humans, they are extremely intelligent, unpredictable and calculating...

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