I'm wondering if something tragic will become of the pregnancy (and if it is a true pregnancy, I certainly do not hope or wish any harm come to this young woman)...but I just wonder if it is a way to further the (possible) original lie and explain away some of the circumstantial "evidence" surrounding Trig's birth.

That said--Palin's 17-yr old daughter being pregnant sure does speak VOLUMES about her "abstinence-only" policy for sex education in the schools and how it is bringing down the teen pregnancy rate in Alaska...

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Pregnant again what will we do Pregnant again it just can�t be true The doctor just smiled and said young lady you Pregnant again (pregnant again)

We�ve run out of milk and the baby need�s more I can�t get the gas to get down to the store With two almost grown and there�s one on my knee Oh honey it�s just not a good time to be

Pregnant again what do you know Pregnant again and it�s starting to show When daddy comes home I�ll just tell him hello I�m Pregnant oh gee again

The crib in the attic all covered with grime And I used all the diapers for dust cloths last time If I were still thirty I just might not mind [these lyrics are found on http://www.songlyrics.com]The thought of another pink little behind

My husband works hard two jobs on the side He doesn�t have much but he sure got his pride He�s loving and loyal and he brings home each dime But what will he say when I tell him that I�m

Pregnant again where will we do Pregnant again it just can�t be so But I never could count when the lights were down low And I�m Pregnant again (pregnant again)

There goes the new washer we needed so bad There goes the vacation that we never had There goes the new TV I thought we�d enjoy Oh honey who cares I hope it�s a boy

now they're all "it doesn't matter, she's going to marry him so it's ok, she's being responsible.'

To be followed up by a convenient divorce when the timing is right (unless we've all started living in a Reba sitcom). But all that matters is the image of the here and now, and divorce has become eminently forgivable among religious sect in recent times... their own version of the get out of jail free card, as it were. It's okay, as long as they're getting married NOW, and no one will care when they divorce later because they were just too young, not ready, not truly compatible, etc.

As I commented to somebody else, it makes you wonder at what point McCain's going to go home, lay his junk out on a chopping block, and whack himself repeatedly in his own testicles with a hammer for listening to what may well be Karl Rove's THIRD big PR blunder to pick Palin - or if he's already done it.

the whole fundie christian thing is the illusion of perfection, right?

No sex before marriage (that NEVER happens, but they like to exist in a 1950's world where they believe it does)

No abortions (yeah right)

It's alllllll about an illusion. Right now, that christian illusion has been thoroughly broken, but she can't withdraw from the race. If she withdraws, it'll show that McSame's campaign is totally disorganized.

What they'll do is conveniently forget the 'no sex before marriage' stuff, and the 'abstinence' shit, and spin this into her daughter keeping the baby, and thus being pro life. Just you watch.

It'll be so much hypocrisy your head will spin, but the stupids will lap it up.

It's also unfortunately something Obama can't touch with a 20 foot pole. He cant criticize it at all, otherwise he'll be painted as a monster for going after an innocent young expectant mother. So McSame and the fundies get to do as much damage control as they want while Obama sits by and gnashes his teeth at a golden opportunity he can't do anything with.

You know, I'm glad to see Palin's "abstinence only" bullshit blow up in her face.

But what I really wish is that people would not call her daughter a whore. Look, the kid did what teenagers do, especially teenagers who don't know a damn thing about birth control. Calling Bristol a whore, in my opinion, makes you as ignorant and hateful as the right-wing fundies who spout the "abstinence" crap.

I'm sorry for the kid. When I was her age, I had a friend who had a pregnancy scare; the rest of us went crazy trying to figure out how to get her from Arizona to California for an abortion so she wouldn't have to petition the court. Bristol doesn't even have that. She's going to be a mother and (probably) wed before she's 19. Goodbye, life. Sarah Palin should be ashamed of herself.

It doesn't make her life go away though. I was a mother and wed before I was 19. Now I'm in my second year of law school, with TWO awesome kids, etc. I've got a life. It's hard, sure, but it doesn't necessarily go away.

I agree, though, with not calling her a whore. It's cruel, and obnoxious.

I'll reiterate what I said yesterday. Despite whatever her mom's politics the kids should be left alone. As a shrink I always worry when I see a vulnerable teenager, now pregnant and thrust into the media spotlight. These are just the type of situations that can lead to suicide. I, too, had a classmate who found herself pregnant and got so much flack that she tried to kill herself.

I know that there are any number of reasons to dislike the VP candidate and on the issue of "reproductive policy" she is rabidly pro-life, but to the consternation of her Republican colleagues, she does promote contraception along with abstinence. I'm not agreeing with her at all, but those that say she's "abstinence only" may not know the whole story. I hate to see political discussion devolve to the level of "Obama is a Muslim".

Thank you, John. I didn't know Sarah Palin promoted contraception as well as abstinence. In that case, I take back what I said about Sarah Palin, because now I have no way of knowing she didn't tell Bristol about birth control.

That said, I still stand by what I said about insulting Bristol. And my sympathies rest wholly with her in this case. Been there with friends, done that, watched 99% of them sink into a life of more babies, poverty, and dead or abusive marriages. I hope that isn't Bristol's fate.

I don't get how this is supposed to change anything that was supposed to have happened already. Okay, she's preggers now. How does that change / affect any accusations from late 2007/early 2008? They just dug themselves an even bigger hole IMO.

Or to put it another way, look Barry Bonds isn't on steroids now. Look he tests negative for it now. Throw out all of those steroid rumors and shit from the last several years! *logic error : does not compute*