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today the paper said ...when the bomb drops

i live in edmonton alberta canada and today the paper said " when the bomb drops" and gave detaled desriptions of what would happon when the blast tears through our loved ones and our communitty. i {a 25 year old male} had to remind my intire workplace about the propaganda in the 30's and the 60's that started the world wars and re boosted our econamy into war and out of ressesion. telling a bunch of 40 year old cunts to settle down it was just the power over us trying to stur the sheep so when it came time they would listen and follow the sheperd and be afaid of the dog came suprisingly easy today. but latley ive been feeling a lot of stress building up and making peaple anxous and crazy with there inital emotional reactions any one else see this trend ?

Blame the HAARP and elf waves for the mass inertia to what is happening in the world, most people are asleep and couldnt care less the world is dying as long as they can drive their cars and go on burning our resources like there is no tomorrow, adding to your speech about sheep i read a while back about a man who kept sheep, he didnt want to go to the cost of keeping them safe in a field and he didnt want the expence of building a wall so he hypnotised them, these sheep thought there was an electrical fence around them so they were thus contained and behaved exactly how he wanted them, sound familiar ?, Elf waves are produced and do the same thing, to dumb us down so we are easier to control, as with fear 2012 and will pass without much noise so then there will have to be something else to cause panic in those who want to be awake, but the trick is to all of this is let go of that fear, it serves no purpose only to keep you bound, lose the fear gain your freedom, fear imprisons us and prison is a but a state of mind.

Unfortunately the sabre rattling and drums of war are all too loud of late. The propaganda concerning an Iranian nuclear threat are very disturbing. In Iran the populous are being told to prepare for war because Israel and the US are planning an imminent attack. And it would seem that they may not be so far off the mark.Sadly, war is the tool that empires use to increase their wealth and keep/make their citizens compliant. It is only through our actions, or inactions in the case of mass general strikes that we can slow the march to what could be the largest conflagration in the history of our species. We ARE close to a tipping point. That is not propaganda. For all of our sakes we need to make sure that TPTB understand we will not support these new conquests.Stand up; speak out.

I think this world has been close to tipping point for the last 60 odd yrs since the last world war, America is known for poking its nose into other nations business and tells the rest of the world how to live and spend money when they who run the show over there cannont and will not bring down the trillions of dollars in debt, they just add more whist telling the rest of us we have to cut back, double standards or what ?, IF there is going to be a nuclear frackar then you can bet your bottom dollar the US will be behind it somewhere, much like the last world war, they made their money and spent it just as quick, And are always on the lookout to see what lesser countries have to offer in minerals or oil, [more like pillaged], Down with the lot of them i say.........off with their heads

Also who needs nuclear bombs when most of the world is run on nuclear fuel, one only has to look to Japan to see the devastation a meltdown can cause, and by all accounts the HAARP was to blame for that seeing as the signals from it spiked hours/days before the earhtquake which were aimed at Japan, its also interesting to note that the IMF days after the catastrophy asked Japan for trillions of yen to ensure it wouldnt happen again, ? Now that is what i call power .

Well sickboyfool unfortunately I think the tension that most people are feeling right now is probably only going to keep ramping up until it hits its ultimate crescendo on the 21st of December 2012. You will more then likely see people getting more crazy as it gets closer. I think there will be weird cults springing up more then ever before, people will be doing more insane things and in general more people will be stressed out to the max. But on a very positive note I believe on December 22nd 2012 when everyone wakes up just fine outside of their doomsday hangover things will probably calm down. After that everthing will probably be much better, because that is the end of the major stupid predictions that have come down the pipeline. I think then everyone will be able to flush all their prophecy books down the tiolet where they belong and get on with living.:Yes and I know everyone is going to say "But the Mayan calender says everything ends on the 21st of december"blah blah blah. No it does not say that anywhere on it. Its an astrological calender for Gods sake and the Damn thing is round like all their calenders. Until then don't drink the prophecy Koolaid and all should be well. (But beware of the nut jobs, they will crawling out of the woodwork everywhere until the end of December 2012. I think the only thing that could bring about an end would be the people that believe its going to be the end doing stupid things)

Well sickboyfool unfortunately I think the tension that most people are feeling right now is probably only going to keep ramping up until it hits its ultimate crescendo on the 21st of December 2012. You will more then likely see people getting more crazy as it gets closer. I think there will be weird cults springing up more then ever before, people will be doing more insane things and in general more people will be stressed out to the max. But on a very positive note I believe on December 22nd 2012 when everyone wakes up just fine outside of their doomsday hangover things will probably calm down. After that everthing will probably be much better, because that is the end of the major stupid predictions that have come down the pipeline. I think then everyone will be able to flush all their prophecy books down the tiolet where they belong and get on with living.:Yes and I know everyone is going to say "But the Mayan calender says everything ends on the 21st of december"blah blah blah. No it does not say that anywhere on it. Its an astrological calender for Gods sake and the Damn thing is round like all their calenders. Until then don't drink the prophecy Koolaid and all should be well. (But beware of the nut jobs, they will crawling out of the woodwork everywhere until the end of December 2012. I think the only thing that could bring about an end would be the people that believe its going to be the end doing stupid things)

Well said Michael, 2012 the perported endtimes by those who want the notoriety [and the big bucks it brings selling this crap], i am still at a loss as to how 2012 end of cycle turns into 2012 end of world,??? Although i will still maintain there is a shift in conciousness and more and more people are awaking to what is going on, which itself is enough for the PTB to ensure something of monumntal proportions is going to happen thus ensuring the few will still rule the many, i think only time will tell.

Also the power of suggestion is so important when it comes to these matters, most of us who have a mind can utilise it to make sure nothing untowards happens to the earth,if enough of us project the love towards our fellow human then surely it would go along way to averting a worldwide disaster, love has to be stronger than fear and more productive to the cause towards the continuation of mankind, doesn't it ?

Yes plus one for you and if you listen to David Icke they still are running it, although i would imagine as to what scale is anyones guess, the Us think they run whilst those here in buckingham palace and Whitehall think they are, the whole thing is a huge joke, or it would be except there are millions of us paying for the privilidged few, the whole thing stinks, come back Cromwell, Guy Fawkes, or that chap from V for vendetta,...lol

i live in edmonton alberta canada and today the paper said " when the bomb drops" and gave detaled desriptions of what would happon when the blast tears through our loved ones and our communitty. i {a 25 year old male} had to remind my intire workplace about the propaganda in the 30's and the 60's that started the world wars and re boosted our econamy into war and out of ressesion. telling a bunch of 40 year old cunts to settle down it was just the power over us trying to stur the sheep so when it came time they would listen and follow the sheperd and be afaid of the dog came suprisingly easy today. but latley ive been feeling a lot of stress building up and making peaple anxous and crazy with there inital emotional reactions any one else see this trend ?

you are def right in telling others to settle down. i too had a promblem relating what i knew to others bc when i first "awoke" i was just going for the jugular of the issue. n ive learned to ease others into it while saying that this is what i know but i certanly dont know it all.i was stressed out to thinking that i was going to contine to make others think im nuts but i have learned why that is. i think ur stess might b bc u know alot of truths that u cant relate to others easily. its bc we have been studying all of these things and when u tell sumone who doesnt know where ur coming from bc they only se a to z when we have been every stop along the way. all u can do to help this is to fill in those who care to understand but go from a to b. if u jump to x,y and z ppl start to think ur nuts bc they dont see the corrilation between the 2. so to avoid freaking ppl out just use references of past times and make sure u make connections from each point u make. and dont worry about ppls reactions to u, many ppl want to think they know better until they realize they dont. and even us who think we know alot cant always b right. thats why we keep seeking and adapting our theories.

I think this world has been close to tipping point for the last 60 odd yrs since the last world war, America is known for poking its nose into other nations business and tells the rest of the world how to live and spend money when they who run the show over there cannont and will not bring down the trillions of dollars in debt, they just add more whist telling the rest of us we have to cut back, double standards or what ?, IF there is going to be a nuclear frackar then you can bet your bottom dollar the US will be behind it somewhere, much like the last world war, they made their money and spent it just as quick, And are always on the lookout to see what lesser countries have to offer in minerals or oil, [more like pillaged], Down with the lot of them i say.........off with their heads

Well sickboyfool unfortunately I think the tension that most people are feeling right now is probably only going to keep ramping up until it hits its ultimate crescendo on the 21st of December 2012. You will more then likely see people getting more crazy as it gets closer. I think there will be weird cults springing up more then ever before, people will be doing more insane things and in general more people will be stressed out to the max. But on a very positive note I believe on December 22nd 2012 when everyone wakes up just fine outside of their doomsday hangover things will probably calm down. After that everthing will probably be much better, because that is the end of the major stupid predictions that have come down the pipeline. I think then everyone will be able to flush all their prophecy books down the tiolet where they belong and get on with living.:Yes and I know everyone is going to say "But the Mayan calender says everything ends on the 21st of december"blah blah blah. No it does not say that anywhere on it. Its an astrological calender for Gods sake and the Damn thing is round like all their calenders. Until then don't drink the prophecy Koolaid and all should be well. (But beware of the nut jobs, they will crawling out of the woodwork everywhere until the end of December 2012. I think the only thing that could bring about an end would be the people that believe its going to be the end doing stupid things)

Actually the Mayan and Hopi predictions are very similar. Except the Mayans counted 5 "worlds", the Hopi 4. But the prophecies are VERY much alike. Neither says the world, as a whole is going to end. Both say this world, as we know it, will pass away the same as has happened before, to be replaced by a new version. We are not told if this will be an extinction event, or simply a societal collapse. We have experienced several of both of those scenarios in human history.My knowledge of the prophecy comes from my birth father and his father. This was information that had been passed down through family lines for many generations. Here is what I know. Sometime, near the end of our calendar year of 2012, we will suffer a game changing event. We should be prepared by learning how to survive this: have some food and water put by, know how to build a rudimentary shelter, learn to hunt, fish, preserve, learn how to find and filter water, save seeds to grow crops, prepare the soil for those crops. As modern humans it would also be wise to learn herbal medicinal craft and learn what wild plants are edible. Its also a good idea to have an emergency medical manual; knowing how to set broken bones and stitch up wounds can really come in handy.These are logical things that we should all do anyway, even if we are not expecting a global disaster of some kind. Disasters happen every single day somewhere in the world. I know I personally am somewhat comforted by the fact that in the event of such I do not have to wait for the government to rescue me. I will be fine, for at least a while.So, that's the prophecy. Will it come to pass? Who knows. Better safe than sorry though.

This might be a game of breakmanship heading up to Nov. 25th. Remember that America will never be as powerful as she is now. For us it is down hill. I read regarding the ship and tanks movements of Russia and America, dangerous game. The night of the New Moon [or no moon light] is Nov. 25th right after our Thanksgiving Day. Meaningful folks can be removed from target areas and pain folks might just think they have gone to see in-laws or family for the holiday. Advantage America ! Plan 1-A preemptive strike is the best move in Atomic Warfare. My uncle carried the US "football" from 1954 - 1977. The B-2 stealth bombers we sold Israel are most effective on moonless nights. I have papers in the large Free & Accepted Mason Temple in our Mission Valley, including the patterns to the two strings of the Prime numbers, part of my Return to Babel paper [spring 1968], and my NEW NUMBER FOR AN OLD BEAST [1985 essay]. I will make certain they survive. It is philosophically meaningful that some one from our age was able to determine the pattern to the prime and produce a formular for them.

Actually the Mayan and Hopi predictions are very similar. Except the Mayans counted 5 "worlds", the Hopi 4. But the prophecies are VERY much alike. Neither says the world, as a whole is going to end. Both say this world, as we know it, will pass away the same as has happened before, to be replaced by a new version. We are not told if this will be an extinction event, or simply a societal collapse. We have experienced several of both of those scenarios in human history.My knowledge of the prophecy comes from my birth father and his father. This was information that had been passed down through family lines for many generations. Here is what I know. Sometime, near the end of our calendar year of 2012, we will suffer a game changing event. We should be prepared by learning how to survive this: have some food and water put by, know how to build a rudimentary shelter, learn to hunt, fish, preserve, learn how to find and filter water, save seeds to grow crops, prepare the soil for those crops. As modern humans it would also be wise to learn herbal medicinal craft and learn what wild plants are edible. Its also a good idea to have an emergency medical manual; knowing how to set broken bones and stitch up wounds can really come in handy.These are logical things that we should all do anyway, even if we are not expecting a global disaster of some kind. Disasters happen every single day somewhere in the world. I know I personally am somewhat comforted by the fact that in the event of such I do not have to wait for the government to rescue me. I will be fine, for at least a while.So, that's the prophecy. Will it come to pass? Who knows. Better safe than sorry though.

Bravo Jaguar well said, i think we are entering the new vision as we speak, tides are turning and mankind has progressed as a race far enough to know we are being manipulated, the few who are running things should be scared, we cannot keep living like this, the earth cannont put up with the raping of her resources, the polution of her seas, disproprtionately distrubuted wealth, what is happening to here something has to give, i am also of the opinion that society as we know it today will not be so for much longer, although how the changes come about like you said is anyones guess, but i have been stocking up on tinned food and alternative power supplies and candles in the last couple of yrs so if anything goes down i am sort of prepared, and its not too late for anyone else we still got a year to change things, but if we dont and it needs "outside" intervention then god help all of us

I was taught that there appeared to be no pattern to the prime numbers. I found that this appearence is do to using the base 10 counting system instead of a base 12 counting system. In base 12 there is clearly a pattern to the two strings of the prime numbers, the string of 6n minus 1 and the string of 6n plus 1. There are two alternating formulas to each string in order to remove the next non-prime of the sequence. The pattern is not easily discernable, but it is clearly there; which implies there is a rational pattern to Nature and Nature is not just random. A major philosophical insight then can become the premise for further discourse. There is a Natural order in the world. At less the world of number patterns. Why base 12 instead of the base 10 counting system?