tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2748120234252907284.post696593362161861683..comments2018-02-09T08:11:45.375-08:00Comments on Pass it to Bulis: Only Blogs That Don't Suck are Good For SportsHarrison Mooneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03261557020279875141noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2748120234252907284.post-60140690321540886612011-01-28T01:48:52.902-08:002011-01-28T01:48:52.902-08:00Oh and yes, I am a blogger; I just blog about my o...Oh and yes, I am a blogger; I just blog about my other passion in life: reading. The Canucks are too much of an emotional roller coaster for me that I really couldn&#39;t give an objective view of a game.Melissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02657787882718834484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2748120234252907284.post-46102615508011705052011-01-28T01:46:21.499-08:002011-01-28T01:46:21.499-08:00Those that do an excellent job of following a team...Those that do an excellent job of following a team/sport will get a following and therefore will probably be deemed as a credible source, in time. Like the political blogosphere, the sports blogosphere is evolving and it will take some time for this to be all straightened out. I think its important that there is a place for people to do quality blogs on the teams that they follow, as long as they are fairly objective about the team and don&#39;t go too far either way. <br /><br />While I haven&#39;t read any of Cox&#39;s articles to know where he writes from, I think that attacking bloggers is wrong. Some do it for the fun of it and just want a forum to express their views. And then there are the ones that blog either through a main-stream website or newspaper (print or online or both) and are quite good at what they do. True there are always a few bad apples who don&#39;t do their due diligence when reporting the facts about something, but I would like to think that the majority of the bloggers, who want to do a good job, will make sure that they do their research before publishing anything, whether through something like Twitter or Facebook or through an actual blog, like yours.<br /><br />The MSM has to learn to co-exist with people like yourself and other bloggers who are doing their job and realize that the way that the internet is, this is the way things are going to be. Opinions are no longer relegated to just to a TV broadcast or to a print copy of a newspaper. Blogs are another piece of the emerging media (social networking, blogging, etc.) that traditional media has to learn or they will be left in the dust. More and more people are turning to blogs or blog-type reporting more and more and will probably become part of the traditional media in the not too distance, whether they be about politics, sports, or just general news stories. They are quickly replacing the opinion pieces that appear in the editorial sections of a traditional newspaper.Melissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02657787882718834484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2748120234252907284.post-51710315729357941342011-01-24T05:27:45.445-08:002011-01-24T05:27:45.445-08:00Just searching through the old articles for a part...Just searching through the old articles for a particular piece and was reminded of this comment. The point I was making though Qris, is not that I think the unsigned, musicians living in their parents basements should in fact be signed by big companies. Nor do I hope that certain bloggers should become professional writers for large companies and make tons of dough. I&#39;ll admit though, the latter may partially be for selfish reasons; because PiTB just wouldn&#39;t be the same if it were a TSN production. My suggestion though was that when you pour your heart out for something that you love, that you have yet to make any money on , and you look on TV or in a paper to see someone who&#39;s making ridiculous amounts of money putting out fluff, it&#39;s frustrating. The fact that they probably got there because they were awesome at what they do, makes the situation even worse when they settle for a cheap watery melody, or article and think that&#39;s ok. <br />To put it into a more PiTB related context: It&#39;s like taking a $100 million contract which you were offered by the Devils because you are the epitomy of consistent scoring and awesomeness, then letting your offseason stretch a little longer than the rest of the team, then collecting your paycheque despite your uninspired and irresponsible play... *ahem* Kovy *ahem*J.S. Topherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14482925387992530716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2748120234252907284.post-53019446985120053332011-01-13T14:48:53.583-08:002011-01-13T14:48:53.583-08:00I really like PiTB a lot, and this piece explains ...I really like PiTB a lot, and this piece explains why: good writing, good references and a good dose of humor. Now, you just have to be paid to do it... I whish it would be that simple.<br />The only thing you could do a tiiiny bit better is better controlling the flow of the articles: I nearly didn&#39;t comment on this one because it was a big piece to chew on and another one came to fast after. It took a comment from Qris on another one to remember me that I should, even if I&#39;m dissatisfied with what I&#39;m responding now, because it takes time to present your thought and all... But I think it&#39;s more important that you feel the support than anything else!<br /><br />I whish you all the best in your writing adventure!The Belgian Canucks Fanhttp://twitter.com/BECanucksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2748120234252907284.post-30614977917756601612011-01-12T12:26:28.847-08:002011-01-12T12:26:28.847-08:00That&#39;s true, Topher, but the thing is, if you ...That&#39;s true, Topher, but the thing is, if you lined up all the guys that play music as a hobby, or just never made it big, and you lined up the guys that score major recording deals and have videos on (well I was going to say MTV but that&#39;s not the case anymore) television, the latter group would be far more talented and produce far better quality music on average.<br /><br />Everyone likes to say, &quot;Hey, what about my friend, he&#39;s way better than those guys,&quot; but for every genius friend you have, you have twelve idiot bands getting together seriously saying things like &quot;We defy conventional constraints like &#39;melody&#39; and &#39;genre,&#39;&quot; who just plain suck. And more often than not, those guys who just plain suck will be ranting and raving about how the music on the radio is all crap because it doesn&#39;t make you think -- which is often true, but it also doesn&#39;t usually make me cover my ears.<br /><br />All this applies to the bloggers who rag on the mainstream media. Yes, it gets me upset that Canucks.com doesn&#39;t seem to have a copy editor who knows the difference between compliment and complement, but I don&#39;t typically slag the site or the rest of the mainstream media because in general, their group is better than mine.Qris Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16671415368467961401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2748120234252907284.post-31908880980034018332011-01-11T08:05:39.083-08:002011-01-11T08:05:39.083-08:00Good point, Topher. I&#39;m not sure anyone&#39;s ...Good point, Topher. I&#39;m not sure anyone&#39;s made an argument from an artistic standpoint, but writing is an artform, and there&#39;s definitely something to that perspective.<br /><br />I think we&#39;ve looked at it from a colder, rationalistic standpoint from the outset, but if we consider the hordes of amateur songwriters out there looking to make it, it&#39;s really not too different from the amateur writers--even in technical writing, nonfiction, blogging, and journalism--as similar creatures.Harrison Mooneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03261557020279875141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2748120234252907284.post-71913148183469541822011-01-11T01:37:27.305-08:002011-01-11T01:37:27.305-08:00It seems to me that for bloggers, to watch a natio...It seems to me that for bloggers, to watch a nationally followed professional journalist, who makes a buttload of money putting out a solid piece of fluffy, inaccurate drivel, is much like being a songwriter who works hard to write original music that is both skillful and emotional, and then turning on the radio to hear the newest Nickleback song.J.S. Topherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14482925387992530716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2748120234252907284.post-55161343578160862062011-01-10T14:40:53.239-08:002011-01-10T14:40:53.239-08:00Great read. When any writer/journalist makes the s...Great read. When any writer/journalist makes the story about themselves they have already failed.Diehardnucknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2748120234252907284.post-30655062558892362352011-01-10T14:31:58.289-08:002011-01-10T14:31:58.289-08:00Great piece of writing here, couldn&#39;t agree mo...Great piece of writing here, couldn&#39;t agree more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2748120234252907284.post-81674498259305902312011-01-10T14:11:45.021-08:002011-01-10T14:11:45.021-08:00Nice piece. The debate will probably always contin...Nice piece. The debate will probably always continue, MSM vs blogging, especially as social media continues to evolve. <br /><br />As a blogger - yes, one of those with a journalism degree clutched in hand - I spend a lot of time researching when I write. I aimed to connect particularly with the female fans of hockey but have been fortunate to have found a niche with a wide variety people who appreciate my voice/style and know I&#39;m attempting to report/educate/analyze. It&#39;s a start, at least; who knows if it will lead to something larger. <br /><br />What can be frustrating for bloggers is, as you pointed out, seeing pro writers/broadcasters covering the same market, but making mistakes, not really being good writers, or not being in touch with a team - or not covering a team enough. Bloggers have stepped up to fill those voids, especially in newer markets (FL, ATL, Carolina, etc) where hockey is definitely not a &quot;traditional&quot; local sport, and are helping establish the local market for the NHL.HockeyBroadhttp://www.hockeybroad.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2748120234252907284.post-89929986699667383572011-01-10T12:01:26.157-08:002011-01-10T12:01:26.157-08:00It seems as if you&#39;re making good on that goal...It seems as if you&#39;re making good on that goal, then. Looking forward to the philosophy paper. I&#39;d give that Copper and Blue article a read if you get the chance.zukussnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2748120234252907284.post-82037749132911972102011-01-10T11:57:49.827-08:002011-01-10T11:57:49.827-08:00You certainly don&#39;t, Zukuss. Daniel&#39;s sitt...You certainly don&#39;t, Zukuss. Daniel&#39;s sitting on a philosophy paper that discusses consciousness in hockey (a much more interesting topic than concussions, in my mind). I&#39;m sure, eventually, that will find its way onto the blog.<br /><br />My goal with PITB is to have a little of everything. Game recaps. Journalistic pieces. Goofy stuff. Photoshop contests. Academic papers. It&#39;s a massive scope, but I want literally every kind of writing there is applied to hockey and the Canucks. And, as long as we have no editor telling us no blog follower wants to read graduate-level essays on race and/or philosophy, we can probably come close to that goalHarrison Mooneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03261557020279875141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2748120234252907284.post-80278779265399754242011-01-10T11:42:37.810-08:002011-01-10T11:42:37.810-08:00To clarify, I don&#39;t mean that every blog has t...To clarify, I don&#39;t mean that every blog has to be funny. I really enjoy your serious posts, as well. It&#39;s the approach that your guys have that is entertaining to me. For instance, I am currently really enjoying an article on Copper and Blue comparing a couple of points of view on the Oilers to the philosophies of Schopenhauer and Nietzsche. You just don&#39;t see that kind of stuff on TSN.zukussnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2748120234252907284.post-21231353549959709002011-01-10T11:22:54.115-08:002011-01-10T11:22:54.115-08:00Great article. I think that a big factor in making...Great article. I think that a big factor in making a name for yourself as a sports blogger is (aside from everything else that you mentioned) originality. If I want to find out the facts about a game, I&#39;ll go to CDC or NHL.com and read the press release. If I want an entertaining read about a game, I&#39;ll check out your IWTG. <br /><br />I enjoy sports blogs like PitB, Down Goes Brown, and... um... some others that I can&#39;t actually remember (there goes my point) because they cover the sport in ways that appeal to me. Keep up the good work!zukussnoreply@blogger.com