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I am fairly certain you badly misread that. It was William Travis who was identified as having the baggage, and it wasn't "freeing slaves" it was capturing runaway slaves and leaving his wife that made people shy away.

All of those other rivalries with a trophy? Someone came up with those trophies...they didn't appear magically, or grow out of the ground...

No sh!t, but those teams also have always been geographically closer together and overall more similar. A lot of blue collar cities up there or at least they used to be. I mean if Missouri wasn't also in Columbia, I doubt there would be a trophy. That's called FORCED, there is absolutely no meaning behind it. At least the Big 10 trophies have history and significance. This is just grasping at straws.

No sh!t, but those teams also have always been geographically closer together and overall more similar. A lot of blue collar cities up there or at least they used to be. I mean if Missouri wasn't also in Columbia, I doubt there would be a trophy. That's called FORCED, there is absolutely no meaning behind it. At least the Big 10 trophies have history and significance. This is just grasping at straws.

There are a lot of rivalries across the country that are accepted as 'natural' that are not geographically adjacent to one another.

Some people just want something you complain about.
You appear to be one of those people.

No sh!t, but those teams also have always been geographically closer together and overall more similar. A lot of blue collar cities up there or at least they used to be. I mean if Missouri wasn't also in Columbia, I doubt there would be a trophy. That's called FORCED, there is absolutely no meaning behind it. At least the Big 10 trophies have history and significance. This is just grasping at straws.

I agree with this. The Mayor's Cup came from both schools being in the cities of Columbia AND the SEC is trying to find ways of creating acceptance an intrigue for the new members.

I'm just saying how I feel.... I think it's dumb especially since Missouri and Texas A&M are forced rivalries.

Not sure "forced" is the correct adjective...maybe arbitrary...but these guys are good football teams with good histories, etc. I don't think we are leaving the SEC nor do I think they will...so playing them for the forseeable future and beyond is a real possibility so in the long run I am sure these match ups will be great rivalries and exciting, tough games. I see your point tho the SEC did kind of choose these game for us and there is no real history right now. When we played Missu in the bowl game I remember thinking I am glad we get a chance to play these guys and wanted to play a lot of other teams that we didn't normally play. It was great when we played USCw and Mich., etc. back in the 80s

When I was in Carolina, I dated a boy named Brian Bonham and later shared an apartment with a girl named Margaret Bonham. Both were related to James Butler Bonham. Margaret's dad posed for a statue of Bonham in Texas. It would be interesting to see how many of the family went to USC and somehow tie that into the trophy presentation/hype.

Let's face it, Texas A&M has traditions coming out of the wazoo. Their tradition seems to be making up traditions as they go. Which is cool and all I guess. It doesn't surprise me at all that they want to start something like this, and good for it I say. The rest of the SEC doesn't really like us, we are some of the newer kids and maybe we can all just go tell the rest to pound sand.

I forget who started the idea of the Palmetto Tree and Moon for a replacement of the Hardees Trophy...I thought he said he was going to make a sticky thread for it....he put it on facebook etc. Time to bring it back up and promote it again

There is already a sticky in Cockpit about Palmetto Tree and Crescent iidea.