I picked up the term from here, back in my mudder days. It makes me view most MMORPG players as slackers who don't know how easy they have it. PVP in a MUD makes any other type of PVP seem weak. and I'm talking sans scripts or even a command prompt._________________...if a single leaf holds the eye, it will be as if the remaining leaves were not there.http://about.me/omardrake