on you. >> behind every victim lays a matrix of failure.>>markkelly, husbandof gabrielle giffords. >> rights demand responsibility. first, fix gun background checks. >> it is not a serious solution for reducing crime. >> the nra is clearly, dramatically out of step. >> lapierre dismissed background checks. >> background checks will never be universal. >> you will never get criminals to go through universal background checks. >> because criminals will never submit to them. >> they will not go to purchase the guns because there will be a background check. >> you missed the point completely. and i think it is basic. >> senator, i think you -- >> let there be order. >> i think you're missing it. >> let there be more. >> if chairman patrick leahy pressed lapierre. >> if you're a dealer, that is already the law. >> please, mr. lapierre, i'm not trying to play games here, but if you could just answer the question. >> rights demand responsibility. law abiding gun owners will not accept blame. >> americans are looking to us for solutions and for action. >> this time must be different. >> t

gabrielle giffords'shusband,markkelly, willtestify.joiningme,marksmythe,a contributor to "msnbc." i want to go the line i first quoted. wayne lapierre, this comment sounds reasonable until you think about it. law abiding gun owners will not accept blame for the acts of deranged criminals. a law abiding gun owner is responsible for what happened in newtown, connecticut. a law abiding mother was a gun owner, by all accounts, and that law abiding gun owner couldn't control her we

giffords'shusband,markkelly, willtestify.joiningme,marksmythe,a contributor to "msnbc." i want to go the line i first quoted. wayne lapierre, this comment sounds reasonable until you think about it. law abiding gun owners will not accept blame for the acts of deranged criminals. a law abiding gun owner is responsible for what happened in newtown, connecticut. a law abiding mother was a gun owner, by all accounts, and that law abiding gun owner couldn't control her weapons, and those weapons were eventually used to kill her and to kill all of those children and those women educators in that school. so that is what one law abiding gun owner got us. >> that is a good point, lawrence. >> and that is what neil heslin was saying in his testimony, was that that woman should never have had those weapons in that home with -- you know, knowing

this week. the testimonyfrommarkkelly, whosewife, gaby giffords was shot will be heard. and joining me is the author of "the last begun." you were a member of the nra, and the president calls his proposals common sense and critics say it's not going to do a lot to prevent mass shootings and would not have helped in new town, connecticut, if you had the ear of congress, which of the president's recommendations would you tell them to take up first? >> there are three things i would tell them to take up first. but the most important is to ban the high capacity magazines, they are ammunition feeding devices to make it possible to bring military fire power our schools and public gatherings and our churches. that's the most important thing. cut back on the ammunition capacity then go to the complete background check, meaning covering gun shows and private sales between individuals that account for 40% of all firearm sales in the united states and finally i would ban the high capacity semiautomatic rifles themselves. >> critics of the proposal of assault weapon's bans argued that the ban that