If Californians taxpayers want to gripe about expenses put out for illegal immigrants then they should talk to their state and local reps who establish and enable sanctuary cities.

When local law enforcement is told by politicians to minimize its cooperation with th ICE then that will contribute to thos expenses around illegal immigration, not only with regards to health care, but also schools, infrastructure and also costs associated with crimes committed by illegals.

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If Californians taxpayers want to gripe about expenses put out for illegal immigrants then they should talk to their state and local reps who establish and enable sanctuary cities.

When local law enforcement is told by politicians to minimize its cooperation with th ICE then that will contribute to thos expenses around illegal immigration, not only with regards to health care, but also schools, infrastructure and also costs associated with crimes committed by illegals.

The point is not if Californians should have or not sanctuary cities. I am also against this concept of sanctuary cities. The point is that the blue "moochers" somehow have managed to have enough wealth to support such peculiar expenses without the need of a federal government. And these "moochers" are exploited by the federal government in order to support the "proud" people of S Carolina or of the other redneck states who somehow cannot live within their means citing their unique circumstances which create expenses, such as healthcare for the miners or whatever. I would rather see Californians' federal income tax dollars used by HUD to build housing projects to help the poor people IN California who are hit by dense demographics and ridiculously high rent and housing expenses, than seeing these dollars leave the state in order to help poor rednecks in S Carolina and in other redneck states who do not even have the decency to STFU when they talk to a liberal about pride, independence and welfare!

We just had municipal level elections in Finland, electing city councils and such.

The anti-immigration party True Finns lost half their votes dropping from 16% to around 8% (can't remember exact numbers and busy to check).They were voted into government with promises such as stopping immigration and exiting euro.

Since they've been in government we've received unprecedented levels of immigrants who are essentially solely 20-30y Muslim men many of whom also have violent tendencies and zero respect for women.

The left has been defending immigrants and attacked a police station as some asylum seekers were being returned as their applications fell through and were rejected. According to left we should still provide them with free upkeep here while pretending that there's no increase in rape, sexual harassment and terrorism.

I've been leaning heavily into the left camp most of my life but fuck these people. I have not once voted left because whenever it is election time and I recheck their agenda it is *always* full of shit that is almost as if designed to cause the maximum amount of damage to this country and it's citizens. Things like giving more free money to African despots, bringing in more people to live on the dole, blowing away hundreds of millions on artsy pantsy projects while disbanding the military and police as "fascist organizations".

I can't find a single positive in their goals and yet I've for some reason considered myself a socialist.

Now I'm at a loss.

The dilemma has two parts:

#1 The left all appear to be idiots and losers. In fact it was just revealed that the Left Party were incredibly poor people, lots of people living off of tax payer funding in their camp. Also lots of Muslims being put forward to demonstrate how "progressive" the various leftist parties are.

#2 I've had a decent amount of interaction with people in a business setting through my various enterprises. I keep getting dragged down and slowed down by all kinds of.. retards and people with no vision. I'm sorry but despite how much I grew up believing that all people are equal or at least equally worthy, I cannot possibly fit this view with my decent number of anecdotal evidence.Some people... Really, some people.

I've completely and utterly lost any trace of desire to bankroll all of these asshats and idiots, including the leftists from the money that I make and which belongs to me. I've worked my ass off for the past 10+ years while these people have been busy "fulfilling" themselves - drinking, complaining and making asses of themselves. Meanwhile I've spent time eating shit to rise from absolute blank slate with no money or property on me to a person who now has a steady set of valuable skills and contacts and now business opportunities.

I essentially sacrificed my 20's knowingly when I was reaching 20 years of age thinking that my plan was to prepare myself so that I would be in a position to score a home run in my thirties.

I'm now here, those other people who didn't sacrifice and put in the effort and working hours are not.

They have no problem however to state how much money I need to give them now that I'm starting to actually score big and while at it they call me a racist, fascist and claim that I have "white privilege" and somehow benefited from slave trade (wtf?) while insisting that I must give even more so they can invite more Muslims here.

I think this all could be summarized by simply stating that I was a dark red socialist who one day woke up as a social Darwinist, deregulationist and anti-Islamist as part of opponent of any and all religions while focusing on those that do the most harm.

Though that isn't quite correct. Before waking up to this realization I - cannot stress it enough - worked my ass off.

I now feel what it feels like when instead of just partying and doing "fun shit" you've actually built something and the party people insist that I need to give them stuff while they are trying to fuck up everything.

I've been leaning heavily into the left camp most of my life but fuck these people. I have not once voted left because whenever it is election time and I recheck their agenda it is *always* full of shit that is almost as if designed to cause the maximum amount of damage to this country and it's citizens. Things like giving more free money to African despots, bringing in more people to live on the dole, blowing away hundreds of millions on artsy pantsy projects while disbanding the military and police as "fascist organizations".

I can't find a single positive in their goals and yet I've for some reason considered myself a socialist.

You're a so-called "Classic Socialist". Like most of us on these forums.

Unfortunately the Lefties of Western Society, especially in Europe, have pushed their beliefs into much more extreme versions of Socialism over the past few decades. Pushing many centrists, independents, libertarians, etc, into the Right to some degree.

Here, in the US, you can see one telling result of that shift: the overthrow of the neo-con Republican candidates in the presidential election.

I think more younger folks are being red-pilled lately after seeing all the leftist nuttery going on during this last election, too. And how blind those leftists running all these Western democracies are towards the cause & effect of their actions. It's not difficult to see when we start analyzing the info and form our own thoughts. Obviously you've done that and seen where their path is leading.

I've been leaning heavily into the left camp most of my life but fuck these people. I have not once voted left because whenever it is election time and I recheck their agenda it is *always* full of shit that is almost as if designed to cause the maximum amount of damage to this country and it's citizens. Things like giving more free money to African despots, bringing in more people to live on the dole, blowing away hundreds of millions on artsy pantsy projects while disbanding the military and police as "fascist organizations".

I can't find a single positive in their goals and yet I've for some reason considered myself a socialist.

You're a so-called "Classic Socialist". Like most of us on these forums.

Unfortunately the Lefties of Western Society, especially in Europe, have pushed their beliefs into much more extreme versions of Socialism over the past few decades. Pushing many centrists, independents, libertarians, etc, into the Right to some degree.

Here, in the US, you can see one telling result of that shift: the overthrow of the neo-con Republican candidates in the presidential election.

I think more younger folks are being red-pilled lately after seeing all the leftist nuttery going on during this last election, too. And how blind those leftists running all these Western democracies are towards the cause & effect of their actions. It's not difficult to see when we start analyzing the info and form our own thoughts. Obviously you've done that and seen where their path is leading.

Yup.

Anyone with some level of center position and not in either extreme has seen just how repulsive the campaigning has become and while both sides extremes are a lot alike I can easily align with bans on Muslim immigration but I have a lot harder time aligning behind the social engineering policies of left:- Take away all weapons, disarm the entire populace- Bring in more Muslims- Free shit for Muslims- Take away that shit from people who work the hardest- Ban patriotism- Give free shit for despots- Fuck the military- Fuck the economy- Fuck the children with weird "you must be a feminist" books distributed at schools and being mandatory reading while urging them not to have families and to find their inner gay- Destroy your own population by promoting anything and everything that makes having and raising children more difficult- All sorts of regulations and bans on all levels- Government's duty to tell people how to live optimally- Support people who break laws, fuck people who obey laws

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