Brilliant letting one of Scott Pioli's henchmen have his own team to ruin. One of the premier GM jobs in the NFL and it gets handed to a stupid **** who makes three facepalm moves for every good one. Awesome. Just like handing a new Mercedes to a 16 year old girl who's already been in three wrecks.

Yea, for all we know BB really did use random this game, I haven't asked him TBH. If she keeps playing and gaining more experience, I'm sure mods in the future will feel less inclined to put us together if we're both playing. I would like the opportunity to kill her sometime (although placing the hammer vote really pissed her off despite the circumstances)

If randomization actually led to the alignment, that's fine. If not, then it isn't IMO.

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Originally Posted by CashmoneyDrew

The roles not being randomized explains why I always get ****** roles.

And why guys like Shane always get power roles. Which makes the whole 'Kill Shane' strategy make a lot more sense.

I can say, even though you were just a townie, you were randomly a townie in my game(I think SP and Snicho being mafia, IBC and Shane being townies may provide some proof of this).

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Originally Posted by Caddy

If the roles aren't being randomised, that is ******** and unfair to some people. I really don't care to play in games that aren't random and now that I know they aren't random, I'm a lot less likely to play.

I guess I understand the reasoning for non-random, wanting to script the game to play out nicely, but then like you have said, anyone who doesn't fit into the particular mod's plans can get ****** for no fair reason. Scripting a game may make it play nice on occasion, but ultimately it isn't fair, and ultimately the game should be allowed to play out fairly and naturally. The mod should supervise, not direct.

For what its worth, my game was legitimately randomized and I believe SP said his was as well, which I would believe. Not really sure after that, however.

Brilliant letting one of Scott Pioli's henchmen have his own team to ruin. One of the premier GM jobs in the NFL and it gets handed to a stupid **** who makes three facepalm moves for every good one. Awesome. Just like handing a new Mercedes to a 16 year old girl who's already been in three wrecks.

Well, I'd like to apologize to the other mods for opening up pandora's box here with the not truly random thing. I've even mentioned it in the past but I guess people didn't take notice. FWIW, I plan on truly randomizing my games from here on out because I have come to learn what most of you are saying. I am still learning a lot about mafia given that HP was my first game and the more I learn, the more I respect certain aspects. I also warn you that there likely won't be 24-hour caps on my days in future games either.

Well, I'd like to apologize to the other mods for opening up pandora's box here with the not truly random thing. I've even mentioned it in the past but I guess people didn't take notice. FWIW, I plan on truly randomizing my games from here on out because I have come to learn what most of you are saying. I am still learning a lot about mafia given that HP was my first game and the more I learn, the more I respect certain aspects. I also warn you that there likely won't be 24-hour caps on my days in future games either.

Well, I'd like to apologize to the other mods for opening up pandora's box here with the not truly random thing. I've even mentioned it in the past but I guess people didn't take notice. FWIW, I plan on truly randomizing my games from here on out because I have come to learn what most of you are saying. I am still learning a lot about mafia given that HP was my first game and the more I learn, the more I respect certain aspects. I also warn you that there likely won't be 24-hour caps on my days in future games either.

I remember you said in the King game (which I didn't even play in) you pretty much handpick the roles. But what do you mean about the 24-hour caps? Will it be shorter or just no caps at all because that could lead to some terribly long Day Ones.

Brilliant letting one of Scott Pioli's henchmen have his own team to ruin. One of the premier GM jobs in the NFL and it gets handed to a stupid **** who makes three facepalm moves for every good one. Awesome. Just like handing a new Mercedes to a 16 year old girl who's already been in three wrecks.

SK is the ******* best role I have played btw. I don't have to give a **** about the town and the sheeple ******* tards in it and I don't have to hear the mafia ***** and moan about things. I just did my own ****, got to kill *************, and generally just got to be a badass. I look forward to the next time I am SK.

SK is the ******* best role I have played btw. I don't have to give a **** about the town and the sheeple ******* tards in it and I don't have to hear the mafia ***** and moan about things. I just did my own ****, got to kill *************, and generally just got to be a badass. I look forward to the next time I am SK.

Perhaps you should be the one person who won't be randomized, forever disbarred from being a SK.

SK is the ******* best role I have played btw. I don't have to give a **** about the town and the sheeple ******* tards in it and I don't have to hear the mafia ***** and moan about things. I just did my own ****, got to kill *************, and generally just got to be a badass. I look forward to the next time I am SK.

SK is the ******* best role I have played btw. I don't have to give a **** about the town and the sheeple ******* tards in it and I don't have to hear the mafia ***** and moan about things. I just did my own ****, got to kill *************, and generally just got to be a badass. I look forward to the next time I am SK.

I swear I get suspected of being the SK in most games. It's never going to actually happen.

Ya rly. It really shouldn't be the mods job to step in and make a decision for the town. That, and people need to learn to stop relying so hard on information and follow their gut more and learn how to sell their argument to other people. If the games keep getting flooded with roles and people rely on information, people will never learn how to truly scum hunt and therefore people will never get any better. Maybe its corny but I want people to start having to make decisions, even when there is no information, and learn how to brush it off when they make a mistake.

I know everyone likes to make fun of how Gonzo plays but he has a short memory and he typically is a good scum hunter when he is town. I'm not saying people need to go full Gonzo but there are aspects to his game that people could learn from. Less investigative roles and less mod intervention will help with that.

I don't know what is going on. But non-randomization is pretty obvious in certain cases.

I always assumed for the most part it was random. I can't really accept any rationale for it not being random. If you are modding and are upset a particularly player gets a particularly role, either deal with it or boot them from the game.