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Your claim that the candidates were pushed in by the seniors does not hold water. Without counting the senior districts (3, 18-20,22-24,28,30-34,38), the results would be 32%/31% for D'Elia/Berman. and 43%/41% for Coles/Raitzik.

In fact, seniors were of the very few districts that didn't vote for the "recommended candidates".

districts REP non-recommended candidates won (1st or 2nd): 32-33,38 (Fairways) (Hirsch) 38 (Enclave) (Hirsch) Mail-in (Travis)D'Elia came in 2nd though. So it ultimately wouldn't have been worth anything for the General election. But, the other 2 non-recommended candidates combined had more then D'Elia, so that should be a lesson for next time (if there is a next time)

districts Gruman won (1st or 2nd): 10 (Brook Hill,Villas,Somerset)(came in 2nd after Raitzik w 6 votes) 37 (Pine St) (Raitzik came in 2nd) 33 (one of the Fairways districts)(but Coles came in 2nd)

In short, the Vaad was the big winner here. People need to rethink their strategy if they really want to make a difference in Lakewood.

There is one person who is very involved in the Anti Vaad movement. Practically speaking he is not respected by the oilam and his involvement always hurts that cause. As long as he is the mouthpiece ,the results will be the same . People feel that he controls the strings because he is always telling everybody who to vote for.

you're all forgetting: the one and only Hirsch. he had no Vaad endorsement, though a certain person was attempting to make everyone believe that early on to disqualify him, and Hirsch didn't have the'mouthpiece's approval' either. He did have the seniors. he doubled more than Meyer and Menash had in 2015 in the primary, and pulled more votes than mayor Coles in this primary. it's really too bad that people threw him under the bus. he has managerial experience and was serious about clearing up this mess with a level head and solid ideas. Hopefully, he won't give up, though I wouldn't blame him after the way he was treated.

Our town has spoken and the voters do not mind the traffic, congestion and other problems enough to welcome change. We may have had over 1000 votes against Vaad endorsed candidates, but we will be countered by the many more new residents moving here from Brooklyn. They will likely vote for the incumbents because they are not connected to the history and Lakewood was good enough for them to move here, so don't make any changes.

The actual number is 2500 unique people who voted for a non VAAD candidate - in a non presidential primary year. That number is heading north. And all that against an unprecedented all-out VAAD campaign blitz. If I were the VAAD, I wouldn't rest easy.

If we are to make changes a real effort has to be made to field a candidate that the entire tzibbur will take seriously. Said candidate should be someone who is well known in town, has a proven track record of success in some managerial role, has reached an age that people will not suspect that his candidacy is some kind of shtick and can articulate his message in a positive and respectful manner. Personally, I would have loved to vote for a non VAAD candidate but I felt that the risk of handing the keys to this city, with all the issues and all the publicity that comes along with it, to a few unknown, unproven entities was too great. Until that happens, very little will change.

the only way to win with new candidates is through clean and high road tactics all this negativity wont help out.We must take the high road and bring our concerns to light only in positive fashion .no bashing ,just bringing to light our positive initiatives ,Lakewood is not white trash the trump tactics wont be successful.If we take the high road there is a good chance to win ,and maybe even get the vaads endorsement .

This blog was the main driver for the anti Vaad candidates. 90 per cent of the comments used very negative and nasty words ,accusing people of serious things. Even those of us who have issues with the Vaad don't condone that type of talk. You can disagree with people without calling them corrupt etc

,without showing pictures of money etc on your campaign posters. This type of campaign resonates with Trump voters. It doesn't resonate with Beni Torah. Keep up the nastiness and you won't get very far.

The Bnei totah do not support the Vaad the olam in yeshiva did not vote. The Vaad was the ones who ran a dirty negative campaign but anyone who calls them out is accused of nastiness. Typical left wing propaganda. More on than ever came out to vote in a primary for non Vaad candidates.