‘Does it matter which is right?’

Did God really mean to teach real history in Genesis?

A questioner asks why Genesis should be taken as real history. Isn’t it just
an account written for primitive people telling us simply that God created, so we
should leave the details to ‘science’?

Isn’t it possible that, since the ancient Israelites would not know about
the universe beyond simple concepts, God simplified his description of the creation
to a point where they could understand it?

Isn’t it possible that implying that ancient people were
stupid is an example of what C.S. Lewis called
‘chronological snobbery’ (in Surprised by Joy)?
God used simple language so that all people can understand, yet complicated
enough to allow for constant scholarship. However, even in this straightforward
language, if God had wanted to communicate evolution or long ages as the manner
in which He created, there are many ways He could have done so. See:

After all, the common Israelite knew nothing of advanced physics or biology. How
could God explain things such as space-time, or the warping characteristics of gravity,
and so on, in any way OTHER than a metaphor?

He didn’t have to, any more than those concepts need explanation to young
school children who are regularly taught about evolution and long ages. As explained
above, all He would need to get the message of long ages across is the many Hebrew
long-age words available. One is
עוֹלם (‘ôlām) or
עלם (‘ōlām)—its
Greek equivalent is αἰῶν (aiōn)
from which we derive the word eon. Another is עֵת
(‘et), as Hebrew scholar Ting Wang points
out. Leading South African geneticist James Allan made
another cogent argument:

I then realized that had God wanted to say a billion years rather than six days,
He could have said it, very simply, in the way He spoke to Abraham: ‘I will make your offspring like the dust of the earth, so that
if anyone could count the dust, then your offspring could be counted’
(Gen.
13:16). In the same way He could have said, ‘I took as many years
as there are particles of dust on the earth to create the heavens, the earth, the
seas, and all that is in them’ and it would have sounded very impressive but
He said six days. Would He have said this if it were of no concern?

Further, why would God create a universe that seems to contradict His message if
he wanted us to believe the Genesis creation story 100% literally?

God is hardly deceiving anyone when He explained the timeframe and order of events
in propositional form; rather, people deceive themselves when they ignore
this revelation and instead interpret the data by uniformitarian axioms (which ignore
revelation).

This is a leading question that assumes that relatively recent conjectures about
a vast age for the universe are correct. In fact, there is no contradiction, as
shown in ‘Young’ Age of the Earth & Universe
Q&A, in particular, The earth: how old does it look?
God is hardly deceiving anyone when He explained the timeframe and order of events
in propositional form; rather, people deceive themselves when they ignore
this revelation and instead interpret the data by uniformitarian
axioms (which ignore revelation).

It is sad that so many in the church are like Lucy in the parable
of the candle. She demanded that her companions calculate elapsed time based
entirely on measurements of a candle interpreted by her preconceptions
about the past. But she rejected a priori the eyewitness report that constrained
the possible elapsed time, and which eventually showed that her assumptions about
the past had been erroneous. Please see further explanation in
Creation challenge: leave the Bible out of it, so I don’t have to
re-invent the wheel.

That isn’t saying it’s LIES or MYTH, that’s saying that God simplified
the story so that simple people could understand it.

You need to distinguish between Adaptation to human finitude and accommodation
to human error: the former does not entail the latter. A mother
might tell her four-year-old ‘you grew inside my tummy’—this is
not false, but language simplified to the child’s level. Conversely, ‘the
stork brought you’ is an outright error. Similarly, God, the author of truth,
used some simplified descriptions (e.g. using the earth
as a reference frame, as modern scientists do today) and
anthropomorphisms, but never error.

The point of Genesis 1 is not to limit the human imagination or our exploration
of the universe, the point of Genesis 1 is to show the God MADE the world, He controlled
its creation, and He made man in his image.

This could have been stated just using
v. 1 and
26–27. Yet God chose to reveal a sequence of creative events,
using the waw consecutive verbs that are used for Hebrew narrative sequences,
as explained to a theistic evolutionist. Indeed, the
days of creation contained a creative command, rapid fulfillment and assessment
before each day closed, as explained in Clearing up creation
confusion.

But you have a problem anyway, even with your narrow polemical approach to Genesis
(Genesis is just about theology), because in the view of leading evolutionists,
man was not made in God’s image, but evolved from animals; man is just an
intelligent ape. Also, God did not make anything; it all arose in a big bang, where
nothing ‘exploded’, without a cause and ultimately, some of the fundamental
particles formed at that time became you and me. In fact, in this view, ‘god’
evolved—the idea of God emerged to help in the survival of the fittest.

So, if you are to retain the theology of Genesis, you must fight the views that
attempt to destroy its history.

The fact that 1 chapter of 1 book of the Bible is dedicated to the entire creation
of the universe, while 4 entire books are dedicated to the life of Jesus, shows
us that we are shifting the focus of the Good Book by spending this much time on
Creation.

Jack Headland
USA

How many times does God need to say something before it is important? He only told
Adam once about not eating the forbidden fruit!

How many times does God need to say something before it is important? He only told
Adam once about not eating the forbidden fruit! Also, Genesis 1–11 is foundational
to the four Gospels, because it provides the reason for why
God the Son, Second Person of the
Trinity, took on human nature (Philippians
2:5–11). He became the Last Adam (1
Corinthians 15:45), a descendant of the first Adam, so how can
the first Adam be a metaphor?

Note that we cannot decide the importance of various parts of Scripture based on
how many words they represent, otherwise we should conclude that the Old Testament
is far more important than the New Testament.

Note that village atheists such as Richard Bozarth and
Frank Zindler see the connection between the history
of Genesis and the Gospel better than many in the church, sadly. Yet these same
church members wonder why 2/3 of their young people leave the church after leaving
home. The same church leaders should realize that our culture is more like the Athenians
on Mars Hill (Acts
17), and how Paul had to preach to them from creation.

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