awalkingecho:findthefish: Now to get to the sixth dimension smoke....Salvia Divinorum 10x Extract back on the leaves

/ this is like popping off the canopy of a jet fighter going mach one and losing all memory of yourself....you are also likely to feel you spread thin like a piece of paper without any concept of mass. I don't much like the sixth dimension...

fusillade762:findthefish: Oh wait read the FA......but I doubt the "ecstasy" was mdma

Why? Are you thinking MDA? Because in my experience that's actually harder to come by.

fireside68: DMT has been seen in the area before. Also, it can be smoked for minimal effect, but still enough to show you the door to the fifth dimension

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/self-transforming machine elves//or so I hear

Well my understanding is that MDA was the so called love drug of the sixties....so not surprised that is very hard to come by. For MDMA...there was a big resurgence in the early 90s. At that point the DEA put severe restrictions on the precursor chemicals. Anything after that it was a chemical mish mash of meth and heroin. I have heard tail that MDMA is back in pure form on the street as Molly...but I am too old too care at this point. However, laboratory produced MDMA is slowly gaining approval for things like PTSD treatment in controlled studiies. This is good, because that is the type of thing it was meant for in the first place.

findthefish:fusillade762: findthefish: Oh wait read the FA......but I doubt the "ecstasy" was mdma

Why? Are you thinking MDA? Because in my experience that's actually harder to come by.

fireside68: DMT has been seen in the area before. Also, it can be smoked for minimal effect, but still enough to show you the door to the fifth dimension

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/self-transforming machine elves//or so I hear

Well my understanding is that MDA was the so called love drug of the sixties....so not surprised that is very hard to come by. For MDMA...there was a big resurgence in the early 90s. At that point the DEA put severe restrictions on the precursor chemicals. Anything after that it was a chemical mish mash of meth and heroin. I have heard tail that MDMA is back in pure form on the street as Molly...but I am too old too care at this point. However, laboratory produced MDMA is slowly gaining approval for things like PTSD treatment in controlled studiies. This is good, because that is the type of thing it was meant for in the first place.

In some major metros this is true; but there is very little real MDMA being produced clandestinely right now. It's just not cost-effective; dealers can purchase research stims like Methylone (also known as bk-MDMA), a beta-ketone empathogen with very similar properties and have it shipped from China for very low prices... and they pass it off as 'Molly'. Realistically, kids don't care whether their Molly is MDMA or confectioner's sugar and methamphetamine.

Most of the ones around here, I guarantee, have never had the real thing, and they don't know (or care to learn) the difference.

You guys ever hear of ayahuasca? It's just a plant with DMT mixed with a plant with MAO inhibitors (so the DMT gets to your brain). Never tried it, but it can be made with any number of plant combinations (often with legal plants) and is supposed to be incredibly powerful.

adamatari:You guys ever hear of ayahuasca? It's just a plant with DMT mixed with a plant with MAO inhibitors (so the DMT gets to your brain). Never tried it, but it can be made with any number of plant combinations (often with legal plants) and is supposed to be incredibly powerful.

Good preparation. Longer lasting and more lucid. Although pharmahuasca is easier to make and consume; you just use a pharmaceutical MAOI, rather than a plant. No need to brew up the aya, you can actually just encapsulate the DMT salt and down the hatch. It's the same pharmacological process that the traditional route would undergo except you don't have to drink down a brew (and there's less er... purging... that way.)

sethstorm:So will there be any punishment, or do they get the same pass that Southern universities get when something happens to them?

Josh Gimmelstob (Tulane frat boy) killed a campus cop by running him down with his Jeep ... the only reason he got charged was because the body shop where he took his Jeep to get rid of the evidence called the cops. He did 6 months IIRC.

PainfulItching:I lived in New Orleans during the 80's near this area, but was not a student, just a working stiff in a cheap apartment Had plenty of friends who were students and frat guys, as I was working a restaurant, and got into many parties around there. Especially rush weeks.

This is not news. It's a college town and a major port. Also known for Mardi Gras.

Yeah, there's a couple of dodgy pressed tablets on that page and one very speedy bag of "molly", but for the most part the brown/off-white powder purporting to be MDMA is actually MDMA. That's been the standard for as long as I've lived on the wet coast.

(and apparently the coke in the Okanagan Valley hasn't been stepped on too badly....)

Yeah, there's a couple of dodgy pressed tablets on that page and one very speedy bag of "molly", but for the most part the brown/off-white powder purporting to be MDMA is actually MDMA. That's been the standard for as long as I've lived on the wet coast.

(and apparently the coke in the Okanagan Valley hasn't been stepped on too badly....)

I'm pretty sure that Tulane (and the rest of the United States) aren't in Canada. :P

That's an awfully small sample size, I must say. The majority of X these days gets sold to the young kids who have taken the underground scene above-ground. People that would not send their pills to DanceSafe.

I wonder by what pipeline those are surfacing out west. I don't recall ever even seeing a pressed tablet on this side of the country. It's admirable, to whomever is providing the actual substance if they're a domestic clandestine chemist because they're assuming a lot of risk. Although bk-MDMA is now schedule I as well, it still comes in from China at a dollar per dose, without all the pesky glassware and incriminating precursors.

Bill_Wick's_Friend:awalkingecho: I don't recall ever even seeing a pressed tablet on this side of the country

I've never seen one anywhere. All I've ever seen is a clear capsule with brown/off-white powder inside.

I'm no club-kiddie, though, and I'm buying from people who supply a professional adult market. For the once or twice a year that I want a pill I am quite certain I am getting what I am paying for.

Fortunate. There is a small amount of real-deal MDMA around here, but it doesn't circulate among those kids. They abuse too much and couldn't care less. It's sort of 'private-stock' for those in the know. Some real LSD turned up not long ago, too, which is nice considering how much 25i-NBOMe and DOC has been going around.

DMT has been seen in the area before. Also, it can be smoked for minimal effect, but still enough to show you the door to the fifth dimension.

I have read a number of reports where DMT is smoked, and by the second hit, you are launched into a completely different dimension. I believe it was Timothy Leary who reported the experience "like being shot out of an atomic cannon."

I'm kinda saddened by DMT's recent exposure to the world, it used to be the hidden guru of psychedelics, one long sought out end to a spiritual journey. Now its lumped into the category of 'illegal drugs', despite the fact that it is produced and utilized naturally in the human brain. The fact that one could label a natural neurotransmitter as illegal just proves the laws have gone far beyond reasonable consideration.