Friday, December 16, 2005

The Baddest of the Bad

Yesterday, the F-22A Raptor became a fully operational cog in the USAF's phenomenal inventory of air superiority fighters. During combat flight exercises, a single F-22A engaged and "destroyed" EIGHT F-15C Eagles, the premier air superiority fighter in existence for about 15 years. Expect to see this aircraft perform admirably in the upcoming Syrian and Iranian Wars.

Two off duty Dicks drinking in 013 get in a fight with a doctor. The entire bar says they started it. The ASA's (who they were there with) claimed they didn't see the doctor assault the Dicks. The Sgt spent a lot of time in call back before he was exonerated, and that's the only reason the dicks weren't locked up. Instead of thanking him for quashing an ugly CR# and a lawsuit one of them motherfucked him. Any other boss would have taken them both in and made them blow. But don't worry, I'm sure if they stop drinking at Ira's or Dugans and decide to spend more time in yuppie bars then they will get accustomed to working in call back.

Saddam Hussein moved his chemical weapons to Syria six weeks before the war started, Israel's top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom says.

The assertion comes as President Bush said yesterday that much of the intelligence on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction was incorrect.

The Israeli officer, Lieutenant General Moshe Yaalon, asserted that Saddam spirited his chemical weapons out of the country on the eve of the war. "He transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria," General Yaalon told The New York Sun over dinner in New York on Tuesday night. "No one went to Syria to find it."

From July 2002 to June 2005, when he retired, General Yaalon was chief of staff of the Israel Defense Force, the top job in the Israeli military, analogous to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in the American military. He is now a military fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.

You are typical of the mentality of the goofs around here. Talk a lot of shit but have other people do the real work, and fighting, while you post messages on this blog with your pants down around your ankles. Keep whacking off to your airplane models. I bet you are the guy that sits sheepishly in the back of the roll call room afraid to talk engage in conversation with other people. But don’t worry; it is the American way to have other people fight your battles for you.

More money to rich, fatcat corporations whose investors are European-Americans. Better the money to be spent on the poor.

You mean like the billions of dollars already spent on the "war on poverty" since Johnson was President? Sure, why not. Imagine all the goodies they could get with the money. Why would our Air Force need the latest technology anyway, it's not like we'd ever go to war with anyone, or face an attack, is it?

One of my buddies who is a copper got the crapped kicked out of him by on-duty 18th dist. tact coppers for no apparent reason. My buddy tried to tell the assholes that he was on the job as well but I guess they were too busy beating him. Talk about having no balls. I guess that's the 18th district for you.

Thats why you drunken goof cops really should learn to hold your liquor. I have seen lots of drunks over the years, and the cops are the worst.Looks like those old cowboy movies with the cowboys coming into town.

People are bitching about 011 coppers in another thread. At least those cops work in a shit hole and have found some way of pumping themselves up to take pride their work. 018 cops are the most obnoxious, arrogant, fashion-friendly idiots on this job. If I here "everything is high profile in 018" from another one of these idiots I'll shit my pants. During a misguided point in my career I bid to 018 to escape the ghetto. I thought I was on Queer Eye for the Straight Guy. It was unfuckingbelievable. Every job was an opportunity to pose. Every interaction with the public was a chance to be cool. Those arrogant fuckers thought everything they did was important. Topics of the day included "my hair, hot bitches, my hair, my biceps, my porn star underwear, and of course, my hair". When I got there I was given the "this ain't the west side, we deal with taxpayers" speech from every sorry fucker who'd never worked anywhere but 018. Every job was a silly ass bar fight where there was the appropriate amount of post job posing for the citizens. These same goofs who worried about the "taxpayers" proceeded to motherfuck every "taxpayer" that even mildly annoyed them. Plenty of those heroes would have ridiculous conversations with me where they babbled on about going to the ghetto to learn something, but none of them ever did it. The lure of fashion, posing, and hair gel was too much for them. I met a lot of people there who wanted to escape somewhere else, but even they bought into the attitude. After 4 periods I went back to my old district and begged the commander to take me back on management move. He let wallow for another 2 periods, but he did bring me back. That was the worst 6 months on the job. I won't even drive thru 018 when I'm off duty. That place is fucking La-La Land.

Sigh - Once again, it must be time to remind the tiny brains that this is an OPEN and PUBLIC board. Eliminate the racial invective or you're going to see it on the front page of the Times and Tribune one morning and who knows where else. Knock it off.

And to the other tiny brain claiming we sit in the back of class and hide, you couldn't be more wrong if you tried. Sorry you feel the need to attempt to put us down to feel good about yourself because you gave it up to Father Flannigan back when you were an altar boy but we're not responsible for your poor self image.

So go lock yourself in your room with your rubber girlfriend and a bicycle tire repair kit in case she pops and live your insignificant life as you will. No one forced you to come here. If you read the blog, you can figure out what we're about. We're willing to bet we've been in way more battles than you could even dream of - we're just too classy and too smart to mention it.

Anonymous said... Two off duty Dicks drinking in 013 get in a fight with a doctor. The entire bar says they started it. The ASA's (who they were there with) claimed they didn't see the doctor assault the Dicks. The Sgt spent a lot of time in call back before he was exonerated, and that's the only reason the dicks weren't locked up. Instead of thanking him for quashing an ugly CR# and a lawsuit one of them motherfucked him. Any other boss would have taken them both in and made them blow. But don't worry, I'm sure if they stop drinking at Ira's or Dugans and decide to spend more time in yuppie bars then they will get accustomed to working in call back.

12/16/2005 01:59:34 AM

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That makes a lot more sense! I can honestly say that almost every single off-duty incident, especially at a bar, that I have been called to, there is never any doubt that the copper was wrong. But instead of accepting that fact and thanking whoever showed up for saving thier ass, instead it's time to talk shit and tell lies.

If someone eyefucks you at a bar, the ONLY reasonable option is to ignore it or leave. If you want to pursue it, don't you dare tell everyone how you got screwed by the on-duty police.

I see, "little Malcolm" atttempts to point out the U.S. found billions to build a single aircraft while the poor and unemployed are kicked to the curb.

Hey M! See where YOUR president yesterday "took the blame" for faulty intelligence reports which led to the invasion of Iraq. He also admitted to "poor training of Iraqi troops" and "reconstruction" of Iraq. A few Democrats appaluded YOUR president for the admission. Shame on them!

All this points out we have money to burn and a deficit to grow if it means money in the pocket of Halliburton and such for war, but money for the poor is limited.

Boy it took them long enough! The "F-22" (ATF) concept begain as far back as 1981! That's 24 years ago.

"the Raptor is certainly the most expensive fighter ever. As of April 2005 the total development and production cost of the program is at least $70 billion, and the number of planes to be built has dropped to 180, raising the cost per plane to several hundred million dollars each"

and just so some guys can get a taste...

"Each of the seven companies that bid on the concept exploration phase of the ATF program, including Lockheed, received a contract for about $1 million. This phase ran from September 1984 through May 1985 when the Air Force received many briefings and thousands of pages of reports that would take the program into the demonstration/validation phase. In the dem/val phase, four winning companies would be given about $100 million each to demonstrate technologies needed to build their ATF. The request for proposals for the dem/val phase was issued in September 1985. The deadline for the proposal was set for that December."

Anonymous said... To 12/16/2005 01:07:18 AM: An article in yesterday's New York Sun:

Saddam Hussein moved his chemical weapons to Syria six weeks before the war started, Israel's top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom says.

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Ya sure, but we are only finding this out now, right? Do you have any clue how many eyes we had on that sandbox?? There were no fly zones in the north and the south. If this story was true, and WMD were the big issue, we would have gotten that shit years ago.

Anonymous said... Anonymous said... Very impressive indeed!!!! USAF is by far the best and it shows when we took over the skies of Iraq without their Air Force even contesting us. Definite air superiority!!!

How many we selling to Russia???

12/16/2005 11:46:42 AM

F-ing ZERO!! They don't need our over priced crap!

"The US Department of Defense of the United States of America and the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Moldova reached an agreement to implement the Cooperative Threat Reduction accord signed on June 23, 1997, in Moldova. The Pentagon pounced on the planes after learning Iran had inspected the jets and expressed an interest in adding them to their inventory. Although Iran already flies the less-capable Fulcrum A, it doesn't own any of the more advanced C-models. Of the 21 Fulcrums the United States bought, 14 are the frontline Fulcrum C's, which contain an active radar jammer in its spine, six older A's and one B-model two-seat trainer. This agreement authorized the United States Government to purchase nuclear-capable MiG-29 fighter planes from the Government of Moldova. This is a joint effort by both Governments to ensure that these dual-use military weapons do not fall into the hands of rogue states. From Oct. 20 to Nov. 2, 1997, loadmasters and aerial port experts squeezed two MiGs apiece, sans wings and tails, into the cargo holds of C-17 Globemaster III transports from Charleston Air Force Base, S.C. The Charleston airlifters delivered the MiGs to the National Air Intelligence Center at Wright-Patterson AFB near Dayton, Ohio. If the NAIC can discover how the Fulcrum works, Air Force pilots might gain an edge if they face the Fulcrum in future combat. "

The raptor is a remarkable craft, but for my money, I'll still take the A-10, or the F-4. There is just something about fly-by-wire that is not natural. It's not the same sensation in the air. Yes, the A-10 handles like a boat, and the F-4 is a flying brick that proves anything with enough power can fly, but they beat piloting a flying computer any day. When they grounded the last of the F-4's last year, it was indeed a very sad day. Lots of history in that one. Lots of history in the A-10, too. Working that craft brings one alot closer to the ground forces, developes a different type of pride in the pilot.

I think that toy plane pictured is S.C.C.'s modest hint re: what he wants for Christmas this year (ya see, there's a WAR on Christmas and he needs some heavy ordinance to fight back with...;-) Please use the link to log into the gift registry below and note exactly which aircraft you intend to purchase for our War Toy Boy. HURRY- They can still ship by Christmas if you order by the 21st; and shipping is FREE is you requisition any THREE planes!=-=-=-=-=-www.WAR-TOYS-R-EXPENSIVE.com=-=-=-=-=-***WAR-TOYS-4-GIRLS-&-BOYZ***We can cater to all your Air Force's needs with a multinational selection of planes. If you have any suggestions please tell us and we will see what we can do

you have idots with 1 pound of dynamite strapped to their bodiews and certain politicans Dean, Kerry and Kennedy screaming our armed forces are no match. Where are we going to use this overpriced piece of equiptment with politicians like these. SCC it not the means to fight but the WILL to fight.........

To lefty and malcom......I nor the goverment owe you anything. There are jobs out there....find them and work them....end of story. Quit feeling sorry for yourselves. At least we can foil the threat of attack with these fine pieces of machinery.....paying for some piece of shit's rent, food, health care and drug/alcohol habits gets me nothing but more money spent on prisons to house the assholes.....

WOW! We have a new airplane thats far superior to the shoeless sand dwellers that we're at war with. What the hell does it matter? The war on terror cannot be won with new high tech weaponry. Greater intelligence and security are far more important than some overpriced plane. Use your head.

I wonder how soon it will be before the armed forces begin to deploy fully unmanned attack fighters and bombers. I hear the unmanned drones in Afghanistan that are armed with maverick missles are doing pretty well. Soon after we deploy unmanned fighters, the machines will rise.

Camera's installed in 016 cars. Not active yet, soon will have GPS in cars.

As for the 016 bashing. Come and join the party assholes! Too many of us 016 guys have seen the wisdom of cruise your own crib not the shitheads! alot of new faces, w/knowledge and time recently bid in. Shithead beware. We can't help the inevitable crew of dogs that plaque every dist. But we can watch out for #1 and friends.

I think it was only 15.5 years for days. I think it's hilarious that the Department put the cameras in before we got trained how to use them. I tried like heck to work it but there it's not hooked up. I heard a rumor that they have GPS in them. Too bad it won't give me directions to get to my jobs. Some of those streets suck to find.I am not worried about using the camera, just don't want to wear the mic. Just another pain in the ass piece of equipment. Which other district got cameras? 005?In 016 we are getting 12 which means every beat car will have them.

I got an idea. Lets turn the camera around on beat 1631 and see if they are as bad as the coward poster that always rips them says thet are. Face the lense inside the car. Seriously, why put cameras in 016? Nothing ever happens there anyway, right?

011th Dist is the place to be for bootlickers. You wanna work the ghetto try 007th Dist, East side of 8th Dist, 003rd Dist and 006 Dist. 011 is being yuppie-fied but thats cool all the 011 tact guys can show off their tattoss and pierces to the "star" struck yuppies.

Where are these yuppies in 011? About 200 of them east of the tracks and south of the Ike. Had a murder in the middle of them 2 nights ago. How do I bid for the east end of 008? Is it a unit by itself. Let me know hero?

I agree with the above dude. The 011 district guys on here act like they work in Fallajuah or something.Get over yourselves! 011 is not what is once was by far. But it still is bad. Those south districts are worse, and 007 and 008 are really the new 011.I know I am a det. and have 25 years on. I worked in 011 when it was bad.I will tell you now that 008 and 007 are busy and racking up many of the negative stats in our dept.

I live in 011 but I work in 008. Knock on wood, I haven't have any major problems with the shitheads where I live. I've come across some good coppers in 011 that have helped me out with a few things. Where I work is a different story. A good number of miscreants are starting to move east of Kedzie. Some of you may disagree with me but 008 is becoming busier. Some beats are the size of entire districts. I understand every district has manpower issues but if I were a copper and I lived in 008, i'd be a little upset at the city for the shortage. I can say that most coppers on nights in 008 are workers and we're doing our best to stop these shitheads. But it's like fighting a housefire with a garden hose. Ironically I feel safe living in 011 than I would in 008.

Great analogy...a yuppie bar in 013 with two off duty dorks, I mean dics, being compared to an on duty police shooting in the ghetto. It's a stretch.

the analogy was that just because a whole bar of yuppies said the cops started it, doesn't mean it's so. But I see you officer, who probably couldn't make dick also have the guilty. I guess you know them personally to call them dorks. Another classy brother in blue

Yesterday, the F-22A Raptor became a fully operational cog in the USAF's phenomenal inventory of air superiority fighters. During combat flight exercises, a single F-22A engaged and "destroyed" EIGHT F-15C Eagles, the premier air superiority fighter in existence for about 15 years. Expect to see this aircraft perform admirably in the upcoming Syrian and Iranian Wars.

>>the analogy was that just because a whole bar of yuppies said the cops started it, doesn't mean it's so. But I see you officer, who probably couldn't make dick also have the guilty. I guess you know them personally to call them dorks. Another classy brother in blue <<

Idiot. The bar patrons and staff universally said one dick provoked and started it. The ASAs, stuck between lying for their buddies or committing perjury that could cost them their jobs took the ole "I didn't see it" stance.

The dick who was involved decided to drop it when he was told he was going in if he wanted the other guy to go in, but the other guy was willing to let the whole thing go away.

And just to really turn your point on its head, one of these two assholes, maybe the one who posted here drunk, motherfucked the SERGEANT in front of 10 sworn witnesses and a bar full of patrons and staffs.

When these two assholes go back to work the first fucking thing they should do is call the sergeant at work and apologize. Profusely. They are very lucky they didn't get their asses kicked by 10 west side coppers and 1 sergeant, or by the bar staff and patrons.

Did you really say "another classy brother in blue"? Guess maybe it would have been okay if he was drunk and called the two assholes motherfuckers, like they did to a sworn supervisor and 10 sworns in front of a bar full of patrons and staff. I'm sober. I'll still call the two of them and you three stupid motherfuckers. These two are lucky they still have their badges tonight after this. Fucking moron.

Hey SARGE, 013 is not in the same category as the West Side. Not even close. Just because a district is West of State Street does not make it a West Side District. I think you are leaving out a little bit of the story here. If you weren't there before the shit went down, how the hell do you know? Because yuppie doctor who is a regular at the bar had more friends than the Dets said so? Maybe you should call those ASA's and ask them what really happened. You will find out that you are wrong. The Det involved is not one for starting trouble.I think YOU owe the apology to them.

The above drivel is the reason why I don't hang out in bars anymore. You can be 100 percent right but if you are off duty and have a couple in you it can cause a problem. If you want a couple just grab a 6 pack and take it home. Its cheaper and you don't have to drive home from a bar.

If it goes down on paper, those guys are going to be lucky to keep their badges. There is a reason the one most involved in the bar didn't want to bring it in.

I'm sure their story has just getten better and better since then, but the fact still remains that the two morons had a bar full of yuppies, the staff of the bar, 10 or more POs and 1 sergeant to witness everything I said at some point or another. Plus one or more 9-11 calls when the bar called and named the dicks as the aggressors from the start.

You should shut up before someone does go in to put this on paper. That would be the last thing these your two "victims" need. Like I said, the classy thing to do would be to call and give an unconditional apology to the sergeant.

If sergeants decide they are dealing with the ghetto bs enough from our own people, one of these days sergeants might decide to start bringing this ghetto bs in. And the first people its gonna hurt are people like your two buddies who can't hold their liquor.

...Hey SARGE, 013 is not in the same category as the West Side. Not even close. Just because a district is West of State Street does not make it a West Side District. I think you are leaving out a little bit of the story here...

Uhm, 011 and 015 are the only two that are further (more) west than 013 along Madison. Seems you've never been on the west side as the po-lice. Keep talking though. Ur very convincing.

013....West Side??? You have got to be kidding me. 011, 015, and part of 025. But 013, not a chance. I know for a fact that the beat guys who arrived didn't know what to do, so that's OK, they called their Sgt. By the way was a license chack done on the place??? Hmmmm...I don't think so, but I digress. The dicks were drinking, sure they were, most coppers do when they are off duty in a bar, and the dude did something to one of the dicks and the other went to break it up and they ended up on the floor with the alled Dr on his back. He probably drinks there often, probably not even a real DR, probably like a yuppie veterinarian or chiropractor, and the bar staff took up for him and not the coppers.

From how I got it the ASA and other County staff was not even asked what they saw, just the Dr and the bar patrons.

Regardless, there was a time and a place when the Dr would have been locked up, but nowadays with everyone, Sgt's especially running around scared, and this one especially becaus ehe almost lost his job once, that the tie goes to the civilian.

Yeah so the Sgt. got Motherfucked, he's been a Sgt. for barely 2 years and has never been the working police anyway. The coppers didn't get motherfucked, the Sgt. made the decision and in the end everyone went their own way.

The one thing that burns me up about this department is that you cannot get three coppers to stand together on one thing let along look out for one another. When the dick go out on a police shooting their first interest is that the copper, on or off duty, is OK. Then they cut through all of the blue lights and gold stars and make sure that in the end the coppers are ok.

You don't hear of dicks getting CR #'s on other PO's, you don't hear of them counseling other PO's and you certainly don't hear them calling off chases. No apologees need to be made here, and believe me, I know them both, they are decent guys and they don't start trouble, and I think that all they wanted was some professional courtesy, but again, none was given.

Anyway, it's Christmastime boys and girls, your've got coppers killing themselves for G*ds sake, live and let live and just smile or nod to your brothers & sisters in blue for a change.

While I generally agree with your goodwill sentiment, I guess maybe you had to be there to see why the beat guys didn't know what to do. As you seem to indicate, nobody wants to be bringing a badge into a station on the wrong end... that shit will turn on you in a heartbeat. But the ENTIRE story went against your two guys, including their own drunken belligerency to (and in front of) just about everyone on the scene.

The time and the place for the Dr. to get locked up was that night. Unfortunately, your two guys didn't want to go in on it. Again, what does that tell you? There own companions weren't backing their story either. What does that tell you?

And that's very cute how you define the west side to include only two entire districts. You got 12 for the south side and 11 for the north side? Or do you have 25 "sides" like a real estate agent would? I'm just saying, it seems like you want a story to fit a whitewashed conclusion.

On another note, I had a friend who got put in a coma 15 or 16 years ago in a bar in the south suburbs. Bar fight breaks out and somebody threw a bottle. Hits my friend in the head and he's out for months. Thing is, he wasn't even involved in any way with whatever the altercation was. Of course, we've all heard dozens of these types of stories since then. To me, anybody stupid enough to get involved in a fight in a bar without trying to walk away is playing with their own life. Christ, anybody who doesn't leave a bar when a fight breaks out is playing with their own life. Its just stupid.

All in all, I'm just saying, these guys were on the wrong end of the story at the bar. Unless the responding POs and sergeant were willing to put blatant lies on paper, there was no way to write it up on paper in any way that would make the dicks come out OK. End of the day, they should be calling the sgt. and thanking him for his babysitting services. Last thing the guy needs when he's looking at allegations against his (our) own people is for his own people who he's looking at to be motherfucking him in front of a crowd.

Say what you will, but that shit wouldn't fly with almost any other boss on this job, whether princes or political hacks. These guys got VERY lucky that they this particular sergeant respond when one was called.

Anyway, Merry Christmas to you and all too. None of this bs is thaaat depressing, and I simply don't understand the suicides on this job. There is a whole world to explore when we retire. Christ, pick a place on a map and go for a road trip if things really seem that bad. Monterrey CA, Santa Fe NM, Wilmington NC, Austin TX, South Beach, NYC, you name it. I fucking hate hearing about the former coworkers eating guns too.

If these guys really are your friends, having this story repeated here is the LAST thing they need.

They were willing to put it on paper right up to the point where they were told that the other party, the crowd and the bar staff all wanted one of them (the one initially involved) named. Cut it however you want, but if he wanted it to go in, it would have gone in.

I'm sure they woke up thinking themselves heroes once the alchohol wore off (see the first post that started this story on this site). What I can't believe is that you would take their version blindly, and come here to argue that a dozen west side POs would wilfully hurt two innocent lil bunnies from area 1 for no reason. Do you even see how many holes I've pointed out in this?

The ASAs, the bar staff, the witnesses, the POs, the supervisor, the 9-11 call, the fact that it wasn't brought in, the drunken post that started this string? Even after all this, you still think that two innocent south side bunnies just got thrown into a den of wolves?

This is so ridiculous that its almost funny to watch your generic knee-jerk defense of these two. The only thing missing in your arguments is that the two dicks were honor students.

Whatever though. I'm sure most of us have been drunk and did something stupid at some point. Fortunately, most of us have the sense to regret our own drunken stupidity, and maybe even try and make amends.

Sometimes, professional courtesy in this context, is letting you walk away. Like I said, when they get sober they should be calling someone with an apology. Easiest apology ever.

No apologees need to be made here, and believe me, I know them both, they are decent guys and they don't start trouble, and I think that all they wanted was some professional courtesy, but again, none was given.

Maybe you should tell that asshole that calls them Dorks. he or she believes they are guilty of whatever the yuppies say.everything, good guy to have on your side if anything is in the gray area.

Please define what this "professional courtesy" would have been in your book.

In mine, they got it by:a.) not being arrested;b.) not being written up for any of 20 different things;c.) not being so much as brought into the station;d.) being tolerated without recrimination while abusing a supervising officer.

What the fuck else do they want, a freakin blow job? Your attitude is one of the foremost things wrong with this job and this city. Everybody is entitled to special favors. When they get them, they still aren't enough.

Everbody is entitled to be an asshole without being arrested or disciplined. When its tolerated, the same people are just bigger assholes next time.

Back in the day, we would have put 2 in the back of the doctor's head and dumped him in a sewer. Those guys in 013 won't be getting kissed in on the paper by the Dick's anytime soon. Those 2 guys are A-1 Homicide guys and deserved to be given the chance to get a shot at that doctor with the cuffs on.

The drunken fool likes to name names. Wonder what his is? The way this loser takes the roundabout method to paint everyone else as the asshole confirms he's the stroke

##############610 Guy said...Just got home and am very anry about evene that let up to this post. My partner and I were out toniight with other dicks, ASA's amd victim witness personell when out of nowhere my partner gets accosted by some yuppie cocksucker at a bar in 013. The tropps arrive along with some jagoff Sgt named JOZEFOWICZ, who allegedly spebt time at callback for beating his old lady, and we are the bad guys. An on duty dick arives, off-duty dick comes in top drink and the offender is cowtowed too....pussy 013 coppers. Back in the day I can remember when this jagoff would have been take to the hospital and given a CB #....I guess that pussy coppers in 013 need a class in old school ethics.!!!

Thanks. They do sound and cry like a couple of O'holes. Lucky they didn't get strung up by their short O'hares. Lay off the sauce you shanty dicks. Get ripped at a friendly locale where you won't clash with restless natives. Lucky this didn't turn into another Grand Central Station. Yet. Try a strip club next time if it's trim rather than a trimming you seek.

Those two Dicks from Area 1 are really a bunch of narcisistic goof balls. They are racist to boot. They were at a bar drinking and saying the N word over and over again when a civilian Doctor who was African came over and politely told them to refrain from using the N word. That's when their drunken stupor coupled with their egos came out. One of the Dicks got into it with the Civilian Doctor who in turn didn't take any shit and cracked one of the Dicks who attacked him. I heard he had it coming. The troops arrived and then the Dicks motherfucked the Sgt on the scene. Word is they got off lucky cause the Sgt. took care of them instead of making them blow or locking them up. Now they are talking all hard and shit like they always do. They are full of themselves. Total goof balls.

The story is that the two Area 1 dicks who were involved in the fight incident at a bar in the 013th District are total big mouthed idiots with huge egos. They also throw around their racist comments like nobodys business. They have a tendency to say the N**er word quite often and don't care who they offend. Well in this case they used it one too many times while they were drinking and a Black Civilian Doctor who was at the bar politely requested that they refrain from using that word. The idiots who also think they are supermen/supercops got into it with him when a fight broke out and the Civilian struck the ignorant racially provoking Dick (who in fact is a Gang Specialist) recently promoted to Dick through proxy. Word is he had it coming to him. The troops arrived with a Sgt and instead of being humble, they motherfucked the Sgt on the scene. The Sgt took care of the situation though. Lucky for them, he didn't make them blow or have them looked up. Now they are talking their shit and blaming everybody except themselves. Typical considering that they have extreme egos. The funny thing is that nothing backs up their egos. They are total big mouthed idiots who are full of themselves. They think that they could mistreat anybody because they are the police. They have a history of such conduct. They make other cops look like jagoffs. Both of their Daddys got them the positions they currently have on the Department.

9:33, go back on the thread and read from the beginning. At least one of em came here and posted the sergeant's name... while still drunk. These two deserve whatever comes to em for this. Their arrogance in this thread is astounding.

him when a fight broke out and the Civilian struck the ignorant racially provoking Dick

The fight broke out because the DR put his hands on the Detective. Does getting called a name give you the right to commit a battery? NO Bottom line is words are words, battery is battery. Doc should have been locked up. I heard Dick asked to sign complaint and was told to go home. Is sarge bitter because he was arrested? I guess he thinks hitting people is ok because that IS what HE HIMSELF got locked up for. Posting their names is just wrong. You must be stuck in PC and be a little jealous. I don't know either of them but I do know this. They are not merit promotions. If your balls are so big on the keyboard, I DARE you to say something to their faces. HA that would be funny to see.

The copper that got hit was eating at the time the doctor started in with him. The ASA's actually backed the coppers so there appears to be misinformation being posted. The coppers asked for a report and an arrest and were ordered to leave.

If the story I'm reading here about these two dicks is true, they got the break of their careers. And again, assuming they started shit, if I was the supervisor on the scene, they'd either have gotten their ass kicked or brought into the station to blow. Their choice. That sergeant sounds like a saint to me because no way I'd take shit from some drunken copper who was out of line. Assuming the facts as presented are the way it went down...and assuming that fucked up posting from 610 guy at 01:39 is legit.

First off, the posting of the names (both the goof sgt. and the drunken duo) was total bullshit. We are our own worst fucking enemies.

Granted, the two guys in question can be smarmy jag-offs -- Why don't we give them the benfit of the doubt. The fact that they were using racist terms off duty has no bearing here. We can say what we want off duty, about anyone we want, as long as it's not tied to an illegal assault or battery. Check the fucking mirror before you call someone a racist. I have seen a few brothas kick the hate speech on this job as well, as well as a few of our Latino double agents.

As far as the kids from the "west side" (HA!) go, and the Sgt. goes, who knows ? I highly doubt that they intended to do any harm to the pair. That said, I think that appropraite professional courtesy was given.

The bottom line is that we need to help each other out. Were they wrong ? Probably. Do we have to like them? No. But at the end of the day, they are the fucking police. Us against them, remember? The thin blue line and all that shit.

Remember -- one day, when you are standing over dead pookie and the circumstances may be suspect, these two bloated, ego-maniacal, racist, drunken handjobs may be the two who catch the case.

I'm pretty goddamned sure that they would extend EVERY courtesy they had to to help ANY copper out.

If the Doctor put his hands on anyone, he should have been locked up. He must have been a regular at the bar and had his "peeps" with him. If the SGT thinks the dicks put their hands on a citizen first then he should have brought them into 013.Either way, he didn't do his job. Funny how he thinks that's ok.

The only people who know the truth are the two det's and the doctor. The rest of us are just repeating stories or believing bullshit on here. What I do know is that there is no way in hell 013 is the "west side". It might be west of State street, but that's about it. There might be cops in 013 who worked in the ghetto at one time or another, but that district is not a ghetto. They don't have a lock-up, shit they're not even busy enough to be a training district. Maybe some guy who works in 013 thinks he works "in the shit with the grunts", but your delusions are sad. 013 is by far the weakest district in A/4 when it comes to policing. 001 looks like a stud district compared to that place. Shut up with your "west side" bullshit or I'll be more than happy to post plenty of examples I've experienced with 013 in the last 7 years. West side my ass.

Shut up with my "west side" bullshit? Get out a map. Or maybe learn to speak English. "West Side" ain't just a slang term for poseurs. It actually is a geographic term, and not just ghetto slang for the sooper-dooper-troopers to say to themselves in the mirror. Moron.

Or are you or some other fucking idiot saying that Madison and Kedzie is on the South side or the North side? Sheesh. Go back to Wisconsin!

That said, I'll grant you that 013 is a sloow, sloow place and has been for years. You should bow down to those who were there in the 80's and 90's.

>>on-duty policemen, not doing everything in their power to fuck someone that fucks with an off-duty policeman.<<

You seem to be shooting from the hip, grasshopper. If anything more was done, it would have involved putting the names of the two dicks on paper... bringing them into the station... involving the w/c or higher, perhaps calling in an e/t, etc. etc. Basically, if anything more was done to "help" these handjobs, they'd likely already be reassigned to an, uhm, less glamorous role in our fine department.

The on-duty thing is the only new fact I've heard about this in the last two days. Just more icing on the cake. You couldn't make this shit up if you tried, and these two guys are still convinced they were martyred by patrol.

Try to find a 013 car at Madison and Kedzie. P.O.'s in 013 seem to think the district ends at Grand. You make no sense. You defend 013 and then say its slow. Nothing goes on there and the coppers who work there are fucking useless when something does happen. I know all about 013. I was dumped there when gangs broke up. It was slllllllooooooowwwwwww then. Were you on the job in thhe early 90's? Were you in 013? If you were, you've been telling some big lies. I guess you should bow down to me for nearly dying of boredom when I worked there. West Side is a common police term used to describe the shit holes of 010, 011, 015, and the 30 sector of 025. 013 is not the west side. But if you need to man-up your tiny cock, then keep wailing into the wind. Wanna call your self a west side cop, go work in the ghetto.

This thread took a downward spiral starting with a drunken post by a fuck who believes he's some sort of "Martyr" to motherfucking and naming a sergeant who does the right thing, to telling how 2 guys totally in the wrong get the break of their careers, to where the "West Side" actually begins, starts, is perceived to be, and how far west in it you have to work to be considered Real Police..I love this shit..

Did you really say "another classy brother in blue"? Guess maybe it would have been okay if he was drunk and called the two assholes motherfuckers, like they did to a sworn supervisor and 10 sworns in front of a bar full of patrons and staff. I'm sober. I'll still call the two of them and you three stupid motherfuckers. These two are lucky they still have their badges tonight after this. Fucking moron.

Sorry, I didn't know it was O Donnell, that changes my whole outlook. Shame is screw the Docs & Yuppies, there was a time when we had our own bars,like Mikes & Iras, but the Yuppies ruined them. Once they found out there where copper bars it became cool to drink there. It's a shame we can't stop after work for a couple of beers like everybody else does, but that comes with the job I guess.

hey; i got 23yrs on and im just sitting here stroking myself..this stuff is good...LISTEN WE ALL FUCK UP,,AND WHEN WE DO, LETS JUST HOPE WE GET IT DONE THE RIGHT WAY..AND THEN MAYBE SEND THAT COP/DICK A LETTER TELLING THEM THANKS.YOU REALLY DID DO YOUR BEST TO HELP ME,,NOW THAT IM THINKING THE RIGHT WAY..THANKS I KNOW I WILL HELP THE OTHER GUY IF I HAVE THE CHANCE..

Me and my team mates are eating at a restraunt with one of these guys a few years back. Now this is a fine eating establishment on the northwest side, a family type place that you would take the family to out for dinner. We are surrounded by men, women and children when this guy starts talking about who knows what. Every other word was mother fuck this or mother fuck that, nigger this or nigger that as loud as could be. I'm embarrassed out of my mind, people are staring cause they can't believe that Chicago Police Officers would talk like that in front of children or women and they don't know what to do. I ask the guy to tone it down a little bit because there are kids present and his reply was something to the effect" fuck them, they've heard it before". I couldn't get the guy to shutup. I finally got up and left after quickly gulping down my meal. The guy was a total embarrassment. I can just imagine what happened in that bar in 013. Not saying he started the incident but I wouldn't be surprised.It's bugged me to this day!

I didn't defend any "marty", whoever that is. If you were on the job 5 minutes ago you'd know Gangs North, South, & West were units that were broken up many years ago. We were redistributed to the districts as "gang teams". You must know what gang teams are, I'm sure you're attracted to the mystique of wearing Carhart jackets and carpenter jeans. If you're sitting outside a sushi bar at Damen & Division, you ain't in the ghetto. 013 is not the west side. Deal with your lack of balls. You can still tell stories to your family. Know one will know the difference.

>>I didn't defend any "marty", whoever that is. If you were on the job 5 minutes ago you'd know Gangs North, South, & West were units that were broken up many years ago. We were redistributed to the districts as "gang teams". You must know what gang teams are, I'm sure you're attracted to the mystique of wearing Carhart jackets and carpenter jeans.<<

Wow, thanks for the history lesson gramps! Now back away from that mirror, slowly, slowly. Breathe out... Yup goddarnit, people like you!

Seriously, how in the world did you get on the topic of the history of gang units in the department? You still telling me that 013 ain't on the West side because its not the "west side" in police mystique?

Who is rhe idiot that called said the guys from 13 were "10 west side coppers"? Ha! Ha! That's what started this debate. Writing "10 west side coppers" obviously inferrs that they are the ghetto police. NOT! End of debate.

Why is it that coppers will bitch when someone "Monday morning quarterbacks" what they did on a scene but have no problem doing it here?

Your weren't there and neither was I, so don't know what really happened. What we do know is the on-duty (SOBER!) Police responded and did their investigation. The dics were drunk. Well at least one was, based on his post.

Apparently, everything was calmed until the dic decided to MF the Sgt. If that's true, they're lucky they weren't ordered to blow. I don't care who you are, you have no business treating or talking to the ON-DUTY Police that way., even worse, a Sgt. When you're drunk, keep your mouth shut.

If you want to MF the Officers or Sgt, at least show some class and do it behind a closed door, (and hopefully sober).

In front of civilians, you should be ashamed of yourself.

IMO, the dics are very lucky they weren't ordered to blow. The Sgt showed great restraint.

This topic should never have come up here in association with names, places or dates. An ugly incident recorded in summary only on soon-to-be-destroyed radio and phone logs is now recorded for internet posterity and placed in front of the public. God help the two of em if this ever results in paper within the department...

Officer on the scene interviewed ASAs that were in the bar. They refused to incriminate the Doctor (who by the way was Indian). Let me say that again that the ASA's refused to say they saw the Doctor attack the Detective. I don't see how taking the Doctor in would have helped the Dics at all or in any way. By the way as we were ending this escapade the bar staff and patrons did start some stuff with the dics. The ASA's didn't even leave with the dics. I see the analogy to the people in the ghetto all saying that the police execute honor students for every police shooting. I was having flash backs to my years in 11. It was really a bar full of yuppies trying set up some coppers. As far the Sgt was concerned someone obviously knows him and doesn't like him. That's fine. But you gave up his name to your drunk friend and went home and posted it here, and that was not cool. So what comes around goes around, and some of the people that work with these guys obviously hate their guts and put there names here. Hopefully everyone who reads this will keep that in mind next time they want to express themselves here.

FACTI was in a bar off duty, off duty, not on, with my partner and County Employees celebrating a Murder conviction. My partner was seated at the bar with a female clerk when an individual (doctor or not) came up and made several un-wanted advances toward the clerk. My partner and the clerk told the individual to leave. Even the bartender told the guy to stop or be escorted from the bar. The guy then hit my partner in the back of the head knocking him from the bar seat. I went over to the guy with the bar bouncer and attempted to arrest the individual. We called the 013th District and had a Sgt.( Known for Stupidity and a Jagoff) arrive and attempt to lock us up if we didn't leave the bar. How would you feel. The P.O.'s that arrived had no time on the job and were overly aggressive in trying to locking my partner and I up if we didn't leave and drop it. My partner sustained minor injuries and we requested a police report. What does it matter if you either R or R not drinking. We are in a bar celebrating when we were attacked. The Sgt. was nervous because the offender kept saying he was a doctor and a member of CAPS. Now, since we left and listened to the Sgt., we learn a CR was obtained and a case report was attempted to be made out against us later that night by the Sgt.but prevented by sounder minds, which we thank. This is bullshit and I give no apologizes for my actions regarding the Police assistance by 013. And yes, the County Employees and bar tender did stand up and tell how we were not the aggressor. However, what good did it do. Thanks Sarggggg.

OK, the sergeant is a jagoff and the detectives in the bar should have had the civilians locked up.

Now that's a really good idea. And while they're locking up the civilians, the Watch Commander of the 13th District will do his package on the assault/battery of a police officer. And naturally, the W/C won't notice the detectives are drunk....oh noooooo! And everything will be OK, right? Dumbshits!!

The second they would have stepped into the door of the district they'd have a CR number and an ET would be having them blow. I guess a 30 day suspension would be OK with them.

Please don't answer that last question. This whole thread should be killed. Far as I can tell from the comments, no paper and no record yet exist. All any of us have done here is create a record that is going to hurt the people we all uniformly are saying we don't want hurt (sgt, dicks, ROs, whoever).

Just let this one go guys. SCC, if you are reading this, PLEASE delete comments that include specific allegations about people who may or may not exist and events that may or may not have happened. The only people these writings are gonna help is the lawyers and maybe a politician or journalist.

If you blow 0.08 or more, it's a rule 15 violation, almost aways a 30 day suspension. Moot point (whew) since the chance to make the dicks blow is long gone. Only they know if they're BAC would have been 0.08 or more. If it wasn't, then OK, if it was....well, luckily it didn't come to that.

Anonymous said... The above drivel is the reason why I don't hang out in bars anymore. You can be 100 percent right but if you are off duty and have a couple in you it can cause a problem. If you want a couple just grab a 6 pack and take it home. Its cheaper and you don't have to drive home from a bar.

Hey fact head, I am the Police in 013th and you were and are a goof with a dick badge. You motherfucked everyone out their on the scene and no, the A.S.A's did not come to you defense nor did the bouncer. Hey Dick-head, you are lucky to have a job. God help the new dicks that may have to be trained by the licks of you.

Do any of the rocket scientists who are pontficating here think that some citizen needs a rule number to make a beef against a copper? Do you think a citizen won't beef if a copper is drunk and acting stupid?

I got into it with someone about nine years ago and wanted to lock this asshole up, but I had a few beers. I don't think my BAC was over, but I also knew that once this was brought to the attention of the W/C, which it would have to be, the question of if I'm drunk or not would be asked.

Discretion being the better part of valor, I let the on-duty police handle the situation. They took care of Mr. asshole and I went home.

If you want to shake the tree, be careful that you're not sitting on a branch yourself.

So, its wrong to have a drink while off duty? Why have an off duty cop blow?

The only thing close I can think of, according to the rules is that it is recommended not to drink while armed. There is no rule violation that I can think of for having a drink while off the clock in and of itself.

Hey,let's, let's stop this..It's starting to make me cry, I don't want to cry, but, what's wrong if I do? Either the two Dicks are bad guys, or they're good guys,and if they are, I love them..What's wrong with a man loving another man, or a P/O loving another P/O of the same sex, and not working in 023...And to the guy who posted our rule #15, now everyone will know we have rules, and we'll never be treated like the Hero's the Firemen are..and the West Side..Where is it, who works there, and what test do you have to take to attain the rank of "West Side Copper?" I mean all this on here wants to make me work inside, being the guy that passes out radios, I could do that for 15 minutes a day, until my dad, who's cousin is the alderman ( and we all know that aldermen are the smartest and best for the job because if they weren't, they wouldn't have got elected) gets me made Merit Sergeant.. Thank, Thank-you, I feel better now..

Thanks 11:17, It's nice to be appreciated, have an arm put around your shoulder and told "You did a good job, son." My dad never did, and when I think about it, late at night, I want to go out anf find a homeless man and start dismembering.....Well, thanks 11:17

To the non-police who told me to "go fuck myself" -- While appreciate the offer (because I do have a gorgeous cock), I simply can't, because I had it in your trixie old lady's yammy all night.

Sorry dick, I'm cpd 20 years, and if you can get in my ol' lady's yammy, good for you.

Regarding citizens finding out about our rules....I knew that a long time ago when some yuppie fuck told me more about our rules than I knew. Most of our rules are common sense anyway, it doesn't take a master's degree to figure it out.

I'm sorry I told you to go fuck yourself here, but since I don't know you, and you don't know me, I didn't have a chance to tell you in conversation. And if we were in the same room talking and I didn't like what you were saying, I'd tell you to go fuck yourself to your face.

Don't fret none though son, all of us have been told to get fucked, most especially me. So if this is your first time.....Go fuck yourself. Now, don't you feel better?

I'm an attorney. A potential client is a doctor who was involved in an incident last week on the near west side. I can't seem to find any paperwork on the incident, but somebody pointed me to this site and indicated that I might be able to find some useful tips and clues here.

My potential client is considering a lawsuit against a few people and the city of Chicago for some indignities he suffered last week. You guys seem like you aren't too happy with the city, so maybe someone here will be willing to help out a bit more than you already have!

From reading this thread, I understand that several of you might be very willing to help my guy by speaking with me for a few minutes about the incident and what happened.

A few questions for the crowd, if nobody minds. Please feel free to email me answers if you aren't comfortable posting them here.

So here goes:

01:39, can you confirm that you are one of the two detectives named in the thread?

9:15, would you mind following up? I can't seem to find any paper on this from the 13th district, but some paper would sure help here!

Otherwise, maybe one of the guys from 013 or 014 or the sergeant can contact me. I can't seem to figure out who was even there because there isn't a paper trail. Little help please? Or if anyone knows of a report on this incident, could you please tell me where I could find it?

5:54, would you mind speaking with me for a few minutes? I just want to figure out what you were told and who told you. Just trying to pin the story down here.

10:30 and 01:06, you both seem to have fairly complete versions, although certainly different! Either of you willing to talk? I promise, I'll keep your names confidential. Just need to get the facts down since there isn't really a report tying anything down. Please?

I guess really I'm just asking for help from anyone who was there or who has heard directly from someone who was there. My potential client really needs your help, but I can't take the case without a better record of what exactly occurred. It might sound strange, but it would have been much easier for me if you had arrested my guy.

We have some good leads from the information you guys have posted here, but there are just a few loose ends I'd like to clear up. If you have more information, please contact me.

Very good point "counselor". We appear to be our own worst enemies. From these incidents to the one where an officer recently was arrested, it appears that the only thing that people want to do is screw with each other. With this much dissenion it is no wonder we get stomped on by the city and the citizens. Lets just keep providing ammunition to the public to show them what assholes we are.

Reading this thread gets me really, really mad, so mad I want to hurt myself..Come on guys, lets be friends, If only we could turn back the clock,and if there was no 013th Dist., If everywhere could be the west side, and we could all be coppers there,if someone had unplugged TOB's keyboard that night,if this had happened on the southside, it would have been a Streets and San worker, not a doctor,and the streets were all number streets (paved in chocolate with peppermint street lights)..And the Dicks and Patrol, Doctors, and Yuppies could all sing Festivus songs together...Well, my meds are wearing off...P.S. Dick T., you do have a gorgeous cock (I peek sometimes at the urinals)..(and Trixies yammy is getting a tad worn).

Okay so they are both jagoffs....whats your point besides being redundant. Im sure they get the point. If they are such jagoffs they may never get it. Lets just execute them at high noon at Daley Plaza. Once again the police are there own worse enemy.

For the same reason that more than 99% of the postings on this entire blog are anonymous, including yours! Or was that the name on your birth certificate?

Well now if I posted shit about someone by name here, I would own up to it. But I didn't. I wish these assholes would say what they want to their faces. I would love to see it. Bottom line, it would NEVER happen. Hiding behind a keyboard is fun for them. They won't think it's so funny one day when their name comes up. And it will.

I'm not the person who you are arguing with, and I'm sympathetic to your implied view of no names, places or dates etc.

The problem here is that at least one of the alleged detectives (if such persons even exist) being named first named the alleged sergeant (if such a person even exists) regarding the alleged incident west of state (if such an incident ever occurred, and if such a place even exists).

That was maddening to quite a few of us also. So I'm generally sympathetic to the idea of not naming any officer here or anywhere. But if you are the one with the beef, and if you name the officer, I'd argue that you pretty much forfeit the protection of anonymity which you otherwise deserve.

But as a general matter, can we all just agree not to put ANYONE's names or specific identifying information that can be looked-up on the internet? The motivation to do so is the greatest in the case where we are infuriated at the conduct of a fellow officer. But airing the allegations here is also where the greatest potential harm may result, subjecting us to needless, unwanted and possibly unwarranted publicity, investigations or even lawsuits.

Thanks for the cock compliment. Sometimes when the juvenile pisser is being used, I have to use the regular ones, and boy is that water cold.

All the upgrades in Area 1 (well, except most of the new detectives) and they can't even keep a brother's cock dry.

Anyway, I agree with you and the poster after you. This thread should be dead now. This is my last post here. Naming these guys by name was a total jag move. Fucking cowardly thing to do.

Now, again, I don't like them, but that doesn't make me a coward. I think the boys got a raw deal on here by the balless wonderfucks that posted the names.

To the guy down the block from me -- I saw you staring dude. That shit ain't right. Next time take a picture, it'll last longer.

Oh -- and to the guy that told me to fuck off. Put the rifle down, you northside homo. I have been told a million times to get fucked, and I got over it real quick, so don't flatter yourself and your 20 years (probably in some cush clout unit) -- it just offends me when it comes from some fancy fuck like yourself.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to service your trixie wife's tonsils again.

hey dick, you got me all wrong, but if we ever happened to be in the same place and disagreed, I'd not hesitate to tell you to go fuck youself. Nothing personal.

But are you sure you want to admit to doing my ol' lady? Obviously if you have you didn't have your eyes open, or else your hair would have turned white and you may have gone mad. Look what it did to me!

Before I read the thread, I wondered why our job was so fucked up, why morale is in the shitter, why no one trusts anyone anymore on the job, why not too many people like the police( I can understand some slinging dope, robbin' shootin' gettho fuck, but some regular joe citizen?) where all of the good times went, what happened to hanging out in the back of the parking lot with a few cold ones shooting the shit with our fellow officers, when the next watch party would be, catching a "play" from a fellow copper when you might have had 1 too many, or rolled thrugh the stop sign, when at 26th st, coppers actually talked to each other in the jury room, not just glared across the table at one another because of some bullshit "west-side/south-side/North-Side/I'm in a unit" attitude, when you could ask some old-timer advice and get a decent, although grumpy, answer... then I read thrugh a few of these threads... WE ARE OUR OWN WORST ENEMY! when is this shit going to change? Airing out our dirty laundry for the world to see, the constant bashing of each other, posting coppers named on this site could be one of the worst things we could do to each other. I know one of the Det's involved, I'm not saying that I Like/Dislike the Det. and I'm not saying what he did was right/wrong. I'm all for freedom of speach, I'm shure as hell not going to post (or even cut and paste) the names over and over again! One of the worst fears I HAD on this job was getting shot, now, I have to say its getting stabbed in the back! How fucking sad are we!

You weak willed Americans! You are so soft. You can not hold your liquor or your attention span. Watching too much tv you all do. We were talking about puny, yet very expensive, airplane that will get knocked down my new Russian air defense we just sold to Iran.

Im an 008 district ranger and have bin on the job since 2001. I'v seen a ton of shit out her. Now there is "crack rock" on the eass side of the district and one time a guy got shot over $10. I couldn't believe it. I would have gave the offender $10 instead of shooting this kid. He was a high schoul graduate and was trying to change his life around when he got shot. What is wrong with people, how can we stop this before it gets very bad?

Executing those two Dicks from Area 1 would do justice to the Police Department, the City and the gene pool. They will probably never realize what hardcore assholes they really are. Too bad, so sad! Fuck them, we are paying way too much attention to those goof balls. Just remember who they are and what they are all about so you will know what you are dealing with when you, and God forbid, come across them.

Executing those two Dicks from Area 1 would do justice to the Police Department, the City and the gene pool.

Are you fucking kidding me? Jesus Christ this thread has taken a really bad turn. Fuck you whoever said that. How dare you even think it. If they were drunk and assholes that means they should be executed? Yeah, that sounds like fair punishment. Give me a break. I can't even believe you said that. I am sure they both have a family. Karma is a bitch Anonymous. Karma is a bitch.