That is the original intent. For MMA to be a REAL FIGHT and not some sport that can be won on points. The ONLY REASON it mutated was because of that withered old potato head John McCain and his boxing sponsoring Budweiser Heiress wife.............

time traveling 12er - Ok, I get it. You want MMA to go back to what it was back in the day. Your special thing where you had to trade tapes to watch it and no one else knew what it was. Well if things don't go well it could go back to being relegated to espn3 and ppv's at 3am.

You see when someone doesn't have an argument they try to make personal attacks (ad hominem) on the person they are "debating" with (i.e. trying to paint them as hipsters who live in the past and don't like their "thing" to go mainstream).

People who engage in these tactics are usually people too stupid or too lazy to be able to discuss the topic intelligently or they are just without a reasonable argument but refuse to accept they are wrong......

time traveling 12er - Hey Haulport, if you ever run in to a UFC fighter do me a favor and tell him what he does isn't really MMA and is bullshit because there are no soccer kicks. I'm sure he'll give you like 10 high fives.

LOL, I have met a lot of mma fighters, refs, commission execs and judges in relaxed settings and had discussions about my feeling on the rules and a strong majority agree with me and we just shrug and say, "It is what it is."

time traveling 12er - Ok, I get it. You want MMA to go back to what it was back in the day. Your special thing where you had to trade tapes to watch it and no one else knew what it was. Well if things don't go well it could go back to being relegated to espn3 and ppv's at 3am.

You see when someone doesn't have an argument they try to make personal attacks (ad hominem) on the person they are "debating" with (i.e. trying to paint them as hipsters who live in the past and don't like their "thing" to go mainstream).

People who engage in these tactics are usually people too stupid or too lazy to be able to discuss the topic intelligently or they are just without a reasonable argument but refuse to accept they are wrong......

Lol, ad hominem? Maybe you should look up your own responses there. I didn't attack you, I made an observation based on your posting. You don't care where MMA get's legislated, you don't care where it's shown. Basically what you care about is that it's badass the way you want it to be, regardless of what happens to the overall sport.

So where's you're logical response? You said it's ridiculous to say nut shots compare to soccer kicks, then you go on to say it's supposed to be like a street fight. There are no nut shots in street fighting? Your logic for why soccer kicks are "real" mma make no sense. I applied your same reasoning to other banned aspects of the sport and they work. You're the one on here throwing a fit because you don't have really good reasoning as to why soccer kicks make it "real".

You have no argument and you don't even understand that. Your "logic" can be applied to ANY technique. To explain that, answer this question:

"So what separates punches from eye gouges?"

The only thing that separates them is that one is legal and the other isn't. There is no answer to your question outside of existing rules.

The only reason soccer kicks, stomps, 12-6 elbows and knees on the ground are illegal in North America is because of John McCain. Not because they are so dangerous. Because a handful of clueless, scummy politicians decided to fuck with some businessmen who were elbowing in on their preferred business partner: Boxing. Elbows were illegal in PRIDE. Does that mean they are to be equated with nutshots?

The reality of rules is that they are a reflection of what people want to see. If you want to make believe safety is involved in rules then go watch people die in boxing, die doing stunts for movies, die in Nascar, get paralyzed in the NFL, etc. I don't want strikes to the spine, nutshots or biting allowed so I'm not making threads about it. Maybe some people do. Maybe some people want to see the Nutshot Championship of the World. That's their prerogative.

All this talk of safety in fightsports is an illusion. And it is complete and total horseshit because there are WAY more dangerous events and sports out there on a daily basis.

The entire ruleset was created for action. To say that knees would make things boring is assuming that refs would just let guys lay on each other for long stretches. At that point it is the refs that are making it boring, not the knees..........

Rules should allow for these attacks. It does change the scramble. It does change the front headlock. It does change the turtle position (all fours without hooks). It does change North/South. It does change Side control.

I think the allowance of these attacks would make for a more REAL combat situation. It would add excitement. It would take away some stalling situations.

But to be fair (to the fighters)..... We should get paid just that little bit more considering the amount of damage just may shorten our careers a bit.....

time traveling 12er - Hey Haulport, if you ever run in to a UFC fighter do me a favor and tell him what he does isn't really MMA and is bullshit because there are no soccer kicks. I'm sure he'll give you like 10 high fives.

LOL, I have met a lot of mma fighters, refs, commission execs and judges in relaxed settings and had discussions about my feeling on the rules and a strong majority agree with me and we just shrug and say, "It is what it is."

Winston Wolf - Haulport wants to be entertained and could care less about safety or anything else ( every thread )

WW iirc I read the UFC wants knees to the head allowed again. Man I hate turtling and it does change fights IMO too.

I know I'm a savage but I started watching the UFC (UFC 1) to see which style is best in real fighting. I'll always be a fan but the further we move away from 'real fighting' the less meaningful any result IMO.

Winston Wolf - Haulport wants to be entertained and could care less about safety or anything else ( every thread )

WW iirc I read the UFC wants knees to the head allowed again. Man I hate turtling and it does change fights IMO too.

I know I'm a savage but I started watching the UFC (UFC 1) to see which style is best in real fighting. I'll always be a fan but the further we move away from 'real fighting' the less meaningful any result IMO.

You are easily one of the most narrow-minded, pig-headed, wrong-headed people I have ever encountered. Seriously man, you just DECIDE what you BELIEVE about people, situations and things (the facts be damned!) and you would NEVER change your mind even if JESUS CHRIST himself came down and told you different. Not only is every one of your recent replies above me wrong (I have no desire to respond to each post) but they are SO off base that it is comical...

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