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Not to derail things or anything, but Amendment 2 was approved in Florida, so America's Foreskin is pretty much in the same boat as California, except with less possibility of it being overturned. Although I'm not sure how relevant it's going to be to the discussion seeing as how many people live in Cali as opposed to... well, here. Just tossing that out, is all.

I think, like a generation ago, the main problem will be cloaked as an argument over technicalities.

I'm pretty sure that while discrimination against homosexuality per se is against the law, but tax laws relating to marriage/reproduction, state consitutional skullduggery, and other nonsense will bog this down for a while.

At least the starting point is better. There isn't a 200-year history of enslaved gay men and no state flag happens to feature a rainbow with a big "NO" symbol superimposed on it (that the state legislature argues is only there because the state hates good weather).

Kemo Sabe up there is getting to the crux of the matter, the grounds for the right to marriage, while Thad's rightly pointing out that on the surface there's a smorgasboard of bullshit that hides or distorts that fundamental truth.

I don't think Slippery Slope applies, because if you have a healthy, intact, loving family where a child has been raised by two gay parents that mirrors the effect on society as a child raised by straight parents. Sure, there are studies that will be trotted out by the right that suppose that a child raised by a gay couple is at some kind of disadvantage as opposed to a straight couple, but how many children have been raised by batty (or friendly) old uncles or aunts? By single parents? By grandparents? By orphanages or foster homes? Yet none of those are unconsitutional.

In fact, gay couples are statistically BETTER parents than straight ones -- because they have to REALLY, REALLY WANT TO BE PARENTS.

I'd like to see those studies :3

It's less that 'they really really want to be parents' and more 'they're scrutinized much, much, much more'. When your primary means of getting a child is through adoption, you're a lot less likely to get a kid as a complete waste of humanity. My brother makes 40k/yr through the military and has a wife who was willing to be a full time mom and they weren't able to adopt. If a gay couple isn't beating that by a lot, they're never going to get a kid in the first place.