You know what, I'm just going to come right out and say it--a lot of you are really short in the people skills department. Posting or reading anything on an online forum is no replacement for grieving a substantial loss. Just give the poor guy a little bit of space for 5 seconds. It's not just about the money--it's about the emotions of having been an early adopter of something that turned out to be huge, plans for the future that now won't be possible, and so on. People aren't just money roombas.

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You know what, I'm just going to come right out and say it--a lot of you are really short in the people skills department. Posting or reading anything on an online forum is no replacement for grieving a substantial loss. Just give the poor guy a little bit of space for 5 seconds. It's not just about the money--it's about the emotions of having been an early adopter of something that turned out to be huge, plans for the future that now won't be possible, and so on. People aren't just money roombas.

Then sticky his thread for everyone to contribute to, because as you know, it really does bitcoin a great service.

One time, I lost over 30k in index options, but I didn't whine to the world when it was my fault. The same should apply here. It wasn't a client vulnerability, he just MESSED UP COMPLETELY.

I gave him the leeway, but I will be damned if I am going to see a 'allinvain' thread every few days.

Unless of course, it was all a psyop to discredit bitcoin, in that case -- great job.

You know what, I'm just going to come right out and say it--a lot of you are really short in the people skills department. Posting or reading anything on an online forum is no replacement for grieving a substantial loss. Just give the poor guy a little bit of space for 5 seconds. It's not just about the money--it's about the emotions of having been an early adopter of something that turned out to be huge, plans for the future that now won't be possible, and so on. People aren't just money roombas.

"I had all this gold and then it got big. I kept it in a big pile in my living room but I kept the house locked! Someone stole it all and now the plans I had for the future are ruined!"

alot of smartasses happy it wasn't them, give the guy a break. he knows better than anyone else what he did wrong on his part. if you learned something from his mistake, send him a donation or simply stfu. apologies for my language.

edit: in his place cold have being almost anyone here and the proof is that all of you in past 48 hours were fearfully securing your wallets and scanning pc's. and now being smart###es about his misfortune. very low.

alot of smartasses happy it wasn't them, give the guy a break. he knows better than anyone else what he did wrong on his part. if you learned something from his mistake, send him a donation or simply stfu. apologies for my language.

edit: in his place cold have being almost anyone here and the proof is that all of you in past 48 hours were fearfully securing your wallets and scanning pc's. and now being smart###es about his misfortune. very low.

It's impossible to argue social conduct especially when individuals are so easy to offend.

alot of smartasses happy it wasn't them, give the guy a break. he knows better than anyone else what he did wrong on his part. if you learned something from his mistake, send him a donation or simply stfu. apologies for my language.

edit: in his place cold have being almost anyone here and the proof is that all of you in past 48 hours were fearfully securing your wallets and scanning pc's. and now being smart###es about his misfortune. very low.

I appreciate the support. Don't worry though. I'll do my best not to let it get to me.

alot of smartasses happy it wasn't them, give the guy a break. he knows better than anyone else what he did wrong on his part. if you learned something from his mistake, send him a donation or simply stfu. apologies for my language.

edit: in his place cold have being almost anyone here and the proof is that all of you in past 48 hours were fearfully securing your wallets and scanning pc's. and now being smart###es about his misfortune. very low.

It's impossible to argue social conduct especially when individuals are so easy to offend.

would you just grow up, please, atlas? i try to avoid commenting, but you singlehandedly make the forum almost unbearable to read with your repetitive, simplistic little nuggets of teenage political and social wisdom. i could probably write a computer program that could emulate your forum presence in a way that passed the turing test; it would certainly do as good a job as you at being a teenage libertarian. it's neither hard or interesting; you're not the first, you know. if we all know exactly what you're going to say, why say it?

emansipator, as usual, is right, and the callousness shown here and in similar threads to allinvain is insensitive and unfortunate. (the worst i saw was someone who spouted the mafia's internal code about how asking help from law enforcement shows that you're not a 'man' and lack 'courage'. sadly, this sentiment does accurately represent the forums, and perhaps the 'bitcoin community' as a whole, so the press's unfortunate general reaction is not a surprise. not all early adopters are as juvenile and anarchist, but those of us who aren't seem to be in a diminishing minority.)

nor is it obviously wrong, despite the remarkable cultural conservatism and fear of change that's evident in these forums, to think about ways to improve bitcoin so that this kind of thing doesn't happen in the future. encrypting private keys on disk and/or in memory isn't really good enough against a compromised system. perhaps it's not worth worrying about any system that could ever become compromised (that's at least a reasonable position), but there are solutions that mitigate the harm from system comrpomise; they could involve distributed keystores, delayed transaction confirmations, security commitments in the block chain itself using nLockTime, and so forth. i'm not sure why there's so little interest in exploring those alternatives, rather than blaming the victims of a system that, in total, failed them.

less attention in general should be paid to the 'wallet.dat' file, too, and more to the private keys themselves. an ec private key is not long and could easily be recorded on paper (much more easily than using a qr code to represent the whole wallet.dat file). the client could readily support manual entry of private keys that were recorded from prior display, for example. password-based encryption of the whole private-key store in wallet.dat is likely to do little good; most people, if nothing else, will use poor passwords.