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I think otherwise. In my city we are visited by cruise ships, and when they travel out into the open ocean they disappear from view, even through a telescope. The last part of the ship you see is the bridge right at the top. If you observe in the same way from the top of the hill, you see the same thing, although the ship is a bit further away from you before it disappears. Now I think about it, it is resonably consistent with your fact of a six foot drop every 3 miles, or 2 metres every 5 kilometres, as we say in the former British Empire.

Stuart

Reckon you forgot the fact that the closer to the waters surface the faster it is obscured.

Originally Posted by DFT_Dave The air as it meets the water will create atmospheric conditions that become a barrier we cannot see past at great distances, even with a telescope. A telescope will also not be able to see beyond the horizon line at some point in the distance.

3. The horizon line always appears straight/flat and is never curved. The horizon always rises up to our eye level regardless of how high we go. The higher we go the further into the distance we see the land and water/oceans rise up before us as a flat plane would do, we never see the earth drop away from us as we would if the earth were a globe.

So then, airline routes. Is it part of the conspiracy that airlines fly 'over the top', well inside the Arctic Circle on routes between Europe and the US?

With the price of aviation fuel as it is, you will find that commercial air routes will be a good indication of the global shape of the earth.

Post an image file of your preferred version of the flat earth map and I will try to explain why what I have said is true about it being a stretched out 2D map of a globe as viewed from above the north pole, (which is why Australia looks so out of proportion). You can even post an image with the United Nations world map also, if you like, since you and yours say that the UN is supposedly hiding "the truth" in plain sight with that map, (lol). And if not then, better yet, we do not even need to see any of that to know what it is because the latitude lines do not close up at the outer edges but instead continue to spread out to the edge of the map.

Reckon you forgot the fact that the closer to the waters surface the faster it is obscured.

Er, wasn't that what I was saying?

Originally Posted by DFT_Dave:The air as it meets the water will create atmospheric conditions that become a barrier we cannot see past at great distances, even with a telescope. A telescope will also not be able to see beyond the horizon line at some point in the distance.

'Atmospheric conditions' that form a barrier, eh?

And what is a 'horizon line'?

Are we talking at cross purposes here? Are you saying that flat earth conspiracy theory is laughable, and I am right about my observation?

The sun, moon, stars and everything in the firmament move, but not the earth. There are documented reports of multiple ships seeing and encountering a place up there where there are 4 rivers ant the waters behaves as if it is being pumped in and then pumped back out. I'll look for the transcripts as they reported whirlpools and other dangerous elements in and around this area. This might explain verse 7 below. I have also show in other threads how the earth could be a circle SQUARED, explaining the Four Corners of the earth. I believe God tells us clearly how the earth and cosmos operate in an enclosed flat earth and cosmos.

Ecclesiastes 1:1-11 KJV -
The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem.

2 Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity.

3 What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh under the sun?

4 One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.

5The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.

6 The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits.

7 All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.

8 All things are full of labour; man cannot utter it: the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing.

9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.

11 There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.

Post an image file of your preferred version of the flat earth map and I will try to explain why what I have said is true about it being a stretched out 2D map of a globe as viewed from above the north pole, (which is why Australia looks so out of proportion). You can even post an image with the United Nations world map also, if you like, since you and yours say that the UN is supposedly hiding "the truth" in plain sight with that map, (lol). And if not then, better yet, we do not even need to see any of that to know what it is because the latitude lines do not close up at the outer edges but instead continue to spread out to the edge of the map.