gz on managing to read the word deterrence, and ignoring the rest of my post

and hunters wonder why people presume they are all dumb

jaimex, on 12 January 2015 - 10:30 PM, said:

if anyone needs to be banned, it's you. You do nothing but sit on AJ being a passive aggressive idiot that nobody likes, sorry you stink of washing up liquid.

Pouncedd, on 12 June 2014 - 01:51 AM, said:

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper and have looked at the numbers comparatively for almost every class

Jontex, on 23 June 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)

Considering a mage is the ONLY class that can kill anything in a 5 sec stun i say that's OP. Even with 10 hour cds and all the procs in the world up you shouldn't be able to kill something in a stun. NEVER.

I don't care how much setup they need to do and how unlikely / hard is it to pull off. You should NEVER EVER be able to kill a full geared (and resi gemmed) player in a 5 second stun. That's just bad game balancing / bad mechanics right there.

Just as tfb stacks in 5.0. The fact it happened once in a blue moon didn't mean globaling something was "ok".

And then you got some guy saying that mages aren't ott, it's just synergy!!!! just before he deeps me and kills me 100-0%. ALONE. But nah dude... i just got out-played. I could've.. or... ohh no wait, i couldn't have done anything because i was stunned 100-0%.

Hello how is everyone doing today? Good i hope. With the up and coming changes 5.3 is looking nicer and nicer. But there still is pestilence in the mist when it comes to balancing. Now before i divulge anymore i need to mention a few things about my class. Hunter cc was broken, this is not a qq thread but rather one adding constructive criticism. The scatter change was needed one way or another although i believe removing it from readiness would solve the problem easier. The whole dr change makes us reliant on others and their cc, a shitty way to balance. Onward to the bigger and meaner menace.

Mages now effectively HAVE as much cc as a hunter if not more. Pom poly / blanket / deep being a deadly combination. This I have no problem with at all. Assuming we are playing by the same rules. Now i don't know about you guys but what iconic class obliterates its opponents in blankets? How many times has some mongo mage blinked into the open to cs your healer, deep your partner and proceed to do science experiments on his face. The class does too much frickin' damage. The instant procs are not that crazy but, in addition to inchanters ward being the green light for a genocide it causes problems. Now i'm not going to say mages are unbeatable or any other nonsense like that but, its easy to play a 5 minute game almost perfect then your partners gets solod in a blanket. That game play is bullshit and not needed. Its bad enough that they can solo your partners in Ethiopian sized cc chains but factor in a full poly and your partner is doomed. And they have the potential to alter time Pom sheep your healer, blanket, deep him, then pom sheep again. Now good players can avoid this 100%, and if you let a mage run rampant he deserves the kill. However these stupid shatters for infinity damage need to be tuned down. Or the cc needs to be tuned. One or the other! Not both like they did to hunters because that is uncalled for but one aspect of game play must be nerfed.

In addition to mages having great cc, astronomical damage, they have good durability. Gone are the days where mages take the biggest damage. In conclusion mages need some aspect of their game play to be tuned down. Whether it be the 8 billion damage shatters, double pom poly, or durability.

My opinion? For anyone that gives two shits, inchanters ward needs to go to 20% increased damage. And maybe slightly less damage (5-10%) on instant casts in addition. Killing people 100-0 in blankets is not "working as intended" or any other bogus. But its not what I think, i'm just some random FoTM S12 hunter AMIRITE? What are your thoughts?

ROFL Hunters complaining about other classes....

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHA

Seriously, good troll.

If you're not trolling, you might want to check yourself into a hospital. You have bigger problems to worry about than world of warcraft balance.

If you're not trolling, you might want to check yourself into a hospital. You have bigger problems to worry about than world of warcraft balance.

Are you that incredibly stupid? If you refute his post based only on the icon next to hes name "you might want to check yourself into a hospital. You have bigger problems to worry about than world of warcraft balance."

If i, as a SP, complained about hunters in 5.2 would it mean hunters are ok just because i also play a very strong class?

God i wonder how some people manage to stay alive being that stupid. I mean don't they just drop dead because they forget to breathe or walk onto a crowded highway or something?

Considering a mage is the ONLY class that can kill anything in a 5 sec stun i say that's OP. Even with 10 hour cds and all the procs in the world up you shouldn't be able to kill something in a stun. NEVER.

What class or spec doesn't kill in a 5sec stun with full offensive gems and every cd available and target not using anything?

The entire premise of this thread is retarded, a hunter complaining about a mage? Half of these whine posts ignore the main offenders as well, nether tempest and frost orb. People who complain about deep (especially hunters learn to fucking roar of sac) are severely misinformed when it boils down to a mage's burst potential. A deep without orb is not something you should worry about, a deep with orb however, spells trouble for your team. The common denominator in a mage one shot isn't deep freeze, it's frost orb, but so many inaccurate spectators cry wolf because they have no sense to see past their han solo post jabba infiltration character debuffs. Nether tempest is insane because it unevenly trades burst potential from frost bomb for massive amounts of constant spread pressure. I agree that these two abilities need to be nerfed, but I have yet to see any good suggestions regarding that or better yet anyone even addressing them in the first place.

You are the mages - you know the class better than the rest. YOU come up with suggestions.

justchecking, on 10 November 2014 - 11:58 PM, said:

Going to blizzcon looking for a fight is like going to the official wow arena forums for pvp advice :)

Renaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

Are you that incredibly stupid? If you refute his post based only on the icon next to hes name "you might want to check yourself into a hospital. You have bigger problems to worry about than world of warcraft balance."

If i, as a SP, complained about hunters in 5.2 would it mean hunters are ok just because i also play a very strong class?

God i wonder how some people manage to stay alive being that stupid. I mean don't they just drop dead because they forget to breathe or walk onto a crowded highway or something?

ring of frost, pom, and deep freeze need to be in the same lvl talent wise frost jaw removed from game ice ward goes where pom is for starters.

I'D even accept this, but in exchange, trololomastery of beastmast0r gets removed from the game or at least made a 3 min cd (or insignia effect removed + no reset from readiness)

Hunters crying so much about mages cause their so beloved trap got nerfed, q_q.

Dagin, on 02 May 2013 - 03:22 PM, said:

Read this prt about coild and then read your first statment You say deep is an integral part of a mage and shadow howl and coil are not then say coil should be baseline??? Also hunters are the only class that have to spec to get a silence. every melee has a baseline kick ever ranged dmg deal has some kind of kick or silence baseline, but I have to spec for mine so based off your integral part of class x statement shouldn't i get silence shot basline then? Not my words just drawing off your on statements.

You, as a Beastmaster, should have no silence at all, your stupid QQ is hilarious.

Wait, wait! Are you actually linking me an argument where a mage kills someone where he uses his cooldowns and nobody on the enemy uses theire cooldowns?

Ah no man, you got many glad titles. You must be trolling me.......... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh you good man you good.

i dont actually think they are lol. but apparently mages are the only class that can kill an effectively afk hunter in 6 seconds

Edited by Dizzeeyo, 03 May 2013 - 04:34 PM.

jaimex, on 12 January 2015 - 10:30 PM, said:

if anyone needs to be banned, it's you. You do nothing but sit on AJ being a passive aggressive idiot that nobody likes, sorry you stink of washing up liquid.

Pouncedd, on 12 June 2014 - 01:51 AM, said:

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper and have looked at the numbers comparatively for almost every class

Jontex, on 23 June 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)

1) Jump around and wait for Brain Freeze
2) Use Incanter's ward
3) Use Freeze
4a) Use Alter time
4b) Use frost bomb + orb (r1 play)
5) Deep freeze
6) Apply face in keyboard and hope you hit Ice Lance x2 and Frostfire bolt as shown in instructional animation bellow
7) After your Alter Time ends, reapply face gently on keyboard and hope you hit Ice lance x2 and Frostfire bolt
8)
9) Scream on skype to show what an Alpha male you are

alter time has to be after the frostbomb explodes if you want to get two brainfreeze procs from it

Edited by Dizzeeyo, 03 May 2013 - 04:46 PM.

jaimex, on 12 January 2015 - 10:30 PM, said:

if anyone needs to be banned, it's you. You do nothing but sit on AJ being a passive aggressive idiot that nobody likes, sorry you stink of washing up liquid.

Pouncedd, on 12 June 2014 - 01:51 AM, said:

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper and have looked at the numbers comparatively for almost every class

Jontex, on 23 June 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)