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811 isn't scientifically proven. You can persuade one to believe this or that diet is best, but you cannot prove it is best. And scientifically based is even on shaky ground, because much of it stems from the fallacy of appealing to nature. If you understand that 811 is scientifically proven then you must also misunderstand elementary logic.

And scientific community knows that vegan diet is the best diet for humans. The only problem with that is before scientific society in the US was sponsored by public (money from taxes), but now it is sponsored by corporations. And scientists that come up with something that contradicts with sponsors' interests are thrown out from the society if they won't change their subject of research and will keep trying to post and prove their findings.

I'm not debating whether a vegan diet is healthy or not, because I believe it is. What I'm saying is that the health benefits of a vegan diet can be demonstrated but cannot be proven to be the one and only acceptable diet for humans. Imagine that a thousand years in the future, scientists discover the perfect formula to support human life and everybody just drinks this stuff. It could happen, so saying that it has been proven to be optimal is false.

I have to agree with Eric here -- though I personally believe that this is the correct life-style for me -- because I agree with it on a philosophical level, I cannot say this is "it" and everyone should do it. Even my concept and understanding is still evolving -- I am fairly new to this.

But I know that there have been civilizations/tribes prior to us who thrived on being hunters and gatherers and lived long healthy lives. There still are such pockets (though much fewer) where they have found their own "perfect" diet, which does include meat. With anecdotal "evidence" (mainly their word) that their elders reach 120 years, some up to 140 and beyond ... and still thriving and leading active lives.

The Weston A. Price Foundation has plenty of these examples. I do not know that they were all true, but even if a fraction were true or the people exaggerated their age and only reached 100 years old -- that is still a powerful accomplishment in societies that lack the benefit of our medical establishment, running water, electricity and our far more superior "understanding" (being sarcastic here ... lol) of what is good for our bodies.

The "truth" (according to me ... lol) is that the moment you start thinking that you are right and begin to act in a self-righteous and judgmental manner -- is the moment you lost that light and begin to alienate friends and family. Nothing wrong with sharing with friends and family what works for you and leading by example, of course. For the most part people just have to find their own path when their time is right.

World record is over 300 days. Was a morbid obese person in a hospital in Scotland. Water and vitamin solution. No calories. The less body fat you have, the quicker you reach organ failure. Just like a fat cow vs a skinny cow stuck in a shed with no food.

I know some folks here do not believe in God, but once I was reading Bible and this verse was just so perfect: Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.-Genesis 1:29 Thats lfrv-ism right there! I believe that humans were designed for this kind of lifestyle and to claim otherwise is almost ludicrous. I would not enjoy living off of air or sunlight, I've tried that way to many times in the past (starving to lose weight). I would hate my life again! But this,-low fat raw vegan, fresh ripe fruit, veggies and greens, it's perfection, doesn't get any better. No matter what kind of program any human being will try to come up with, it will come nowhere near this natural life style. Lol I love food (the real food aka fruits etc) waaaay too much to even consider the validity of breathairianism. I know some would beg to differ, but this is just my take on it :)

could be her given name just like my user name and I am assuming your user name. I have a friend named Athena oddly enough I also have a friend named Panther. These are their actual names that their parents named them. Athena is a beautiful name :)

... Humans cannot perform photosynthesis. Even plants, who can perform photosynthesis, take in nutrients from other plant and animal matter (mass is neither created nor destroyed), and drink water through their root system.

I'm sorry this poor woman died, I'm sure she must of had some incredible visions on her spiritual journey, but it's dangerous to gamble with death just to get a high. Even people on water fasts at least take in WATER.