Quote: There was also Aliens Tribe by Dark Hosre were they had Aliens drones from different Hives fighting each other ,I forget the specifics it 's been a long time since I've read them

Actually it was "Aliens: Genocide" that was about two hives on the alien homeworld fighting it out for supremecy. To top that off, throw in a bunch of marines and a corporate exec (who's after a special chemical produced by the queen (xeno royal jelly) that is used for narcotics/super steroids). - great story.www3.tfaw.com/gn/profile.html?cart=4032725766472960&sku=46577

I think you're right- the only other marine killed outright would be Spunkmeyer (although this is just a guess, as it is never seen). I think we can assume that the warrior's intention was not to capture Ferro- there was blood all over the place! Typically there is no blood with captured humans (Brett possibly being the only exception).

All the other marines killed were by accidents (Frost, Crowe, Drake), or suicide (Gorman and Vazques).

Wierzbowski is the only one on the fence: His screams sound like death cries, but his bio-readouts do not flatline.

I think I once read that the aliens are a lot more intelligent than we'd care to believe: Ferro (and Spunk) were killed because they represented the largest threat to the hive (the firepower of the dropship). It's easy to think, "How could they know what the dropship is; they are just oversized insects". But the marines underestimated their intelligence as well.KevinThe Sarge's Site[url=http://ca.photos.yahoo.com/bc/ssgtburton/lst?.dir=/Sarge%27s+Pics&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//ca.photos.yahoo.com/]Sarge's Pics[/url]

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Quote:Ferro (and Spunk) we killed because they represented the largest threat to the hive

Whoa... WHOA!!! Don't lump me in with the rest of you crazies!!! "I" didn't kill any fellow marines... speak for yourself, KEVIN!

Although the scene with Burke being cocooned was cut, I'd like to believe that it seemed pretty clear cut from the footage that we saw of him and a xeno in operations that he had extra ventilation added to his noggin.

The way I like to think of the restored Alien footage, is that these creatures do not fit into our perceived notions of biological lifecycles. Some animals (I think certain species of frogs?) have the appility to switch genders should there be too many of any one gender. The species balances itself out. The xenomorphs may be able to do the same. Nature finds away to perpetuate itself.

Just a note. You can't EVEN compare Cameron's explanation of a Queen and the DELETED scene from Alien of cocooned Brett and Dallas. Even Cameron himself has said if that was originally left in the film, it would have completely changed his movie. He couldn't have had the queen. While it's cool to see Ridley's original idea, it CAN'T really be considered among the whole Alien mythology and life cycle. Yes, there are some other issues which were brought up and valid, such as the Aliens killing rather than capturing for cocooning, but actually, did they.

In Aliens, when they first attack the marines, the first few marines were swiped away by the aliens, NOT killed. At least not on camera. They may have been taken for cocooning. Newt was. As was Burke, although his cocooning scene was cut. In fact, I can't think of a single person actually KILLED by an alien in the movie. Even Hudson was taken away through the floor. You never saw him killed. Actually, I take that back. The only one I can think of is the pilot of the dropship. But although there's blood, doesn't mean she was killed. She was still moving around. Could have just been injured or incopasitated.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this? Am I missing someone who is actually killed and not taken away.

You're right Alex it was Aliens genocide, it's been a long time sinceI read those but I did pull them out last night to start reading them over, I liked Earth War and the stories that were published in Dark Horse Comics Presents.

I gues I'll start at the beginning with DHCP an dwork my way up.I used to work in a Comic Shop so I should know this but what was the deal with Aliens: Colonial Marines it started out as a 12 issue series but for some reason it stopped at 10. There's worse things out tonight than Vampires.

Quote:what was the deal with Aliens: Colonial Marines it started out as a 12 issue series but for some reason it stopped at 10.

Mid way thru the series they decided that sales weren't particularly great and the amount of time between issues grew longer and longer. They probably decided to cut their losses and wrap up the series a couple of issues earlier. Which is why, in the beginning, the miniseries was listed on the covers as 1 of 12, 2 of 12... etc. Near the end of the series they changed it to 8 of 10, 9 of 10 and 10 of 10. When I first saw the switch from "# of 12" to "# of 10" I too was like "WTF!!!" Then again, the series was so good in the beginning, so much potential, but by the end, between the artistic changes and the odd shift in story direction, it just sucked. Very dissappointing.

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I also liked the first Aliens, 4 issue story where they pick up after Aliens with Newt as an adult and Hicks and Ripley shows up at the end.That's the route the Movie franchise should've taken, I would've loved to have seen Newt trained as a Marine (maybe by Hicks)to go on a revenge ordeal to kill as many Aliens as she possibly can, I mean she did loose a lot to them.

Maybe Hicks and Ripley could tag along for whatever reason as long as Ripley dies sooner or later I mean how many times can she encounter the Aliens and come out alive while veryone around is constantly being wiped out.

That's actually the only thing I gave Alien 3 credit for, for killing her character.

Anyway Newt's revenge could've taken us back to Acheron or maybe even to the Aliens homeworld and by doing that if Marines were involved we would get to see just how much damage they can do when they know what they're up against, just Imagine a whole Squad of Pulse Rifles , Grenade Launchers , Flame Units and Smart Guns Kicking Alien Ass and taken names.

Tiger, let's just hope that the alien design for AVP, although said to be like resurrection, I surely hope that there is very little drool on them. Like in Alien and Aliens, the slime was there, but not in gallon bucket sizes!!!

Quote:I mean how many times can she encounter the Aliens and come out alive while veryone around is constantly being wiped out.

May be Newt is just like other characters in the movies or even in real life that just somehow makes it through, for instance like Staff Sergeant Barnes in "Platoon".

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Quote:Barnes' been shot seven times. SEVEN TIMES. And he ain't dead. Does that mean anything to you ? The only thing that can kill Barnes ... is Barnes.

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