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T. Porter wasn't that good this year. Think he was ranked bottom 15 or so on PFF. If he wants 5 mil forget it

Porter started playing worse once the pass rush vanished though.

I'm sure you can read his numbers to back that up.

True. Had an up and down year though. Struggled starting off then got hurt. When he came back he played much better. Then there was the last stretch of the season where nobody played well honestly._________________

SaveourSonics wrote:

Yea, RaiderX wins. We can all just top acting like this is a matter of opinion. MY GOD.

T. Porter wasn't that good this year. Think he was ranked bottom 15 or so on PFF. If he wants 5 mil forget it

Porter started playing worse once the pass rush vanished though.

I'm sure you can read his numbers to back that up.

True. Had an up and down year though. Struggled starting off then got hurt. When he came back he played much better. Then there was the last stretch of the season where nobody played well honestly.

Yeah I remember some games where he would just shadow guys and make plays. Honestly I can't judge anyone on the defense by the end because idk what happened. He's a good slot guy and I think 3 -3.5 million a year would be reasonable. I say 3 years 9 million 4.5 million guaranteed.

Raji also wants out. Wants to be more of a disruptive DT than an anchor. Wouldn't' mind him in Oakland penetrating from the DT spot.

Sam Shields, Porter and Hayden would be a solid upgrade. Raji penetrating with Fat Pat eating blocks would be nice too. Re-sign Houston and we're talking. Especially if we can draft a good pass rusher or sign a decent one in FA. Sort of wishful thinking with all of our unsigned free agents but we do have the cap space.

Raji also wants out. Wants to be more of a disruptive DT than an anchor. Wouldn't' mind him in Oakland penetrating from the DT spot.

Sam Shields, Porter and Hayden would be a solid upgrade. Raji penetrating with Fat Pat eating blocks would be nice too. Re-sign Houston and we're talking. Especially if we can draft a good pass rusher or sign a decent one in FA. Sort of wishful thinking with all of our unsigned free agents but we do have the cap space.

Yeah I would really like that Shields-Raji combo too _________________WIN LOSE OR TIE...RAIDER FAN 'TIL I DIE!!

"Impending free agent C Alex Mack is expected to test the open market.
Mack, 28, will likely be the Browns' top priority and could be franchise-tagged, but CEO Joe Banner may not believe in doling out that kind of cash to a center. Mack is going to be a hot commodity on the open market and is easily the top center available in free agency -- he graded out as Pro Football Focus' No. 1 center in 2013. He'll probably aim for a deal similar to the one Ryan Kalil signed with the Panthers at six years and $49.1 million with $19 million guaranteed. Mack has previously said he'll give the Browns a chance to match any offer, though that was before the coaching staff was fired after one season."

"Impending free agent C Alex Mack is expected to test the open market.
Mack, 28, will likely be the Browns' top priority and could be franchise-tagged, but CEO Joe Banner may not believe in doling out that kind of cash to a center. Mack is going to be a hot commodity on the open market and is easily the top center available in free agency -- he graded out as Pro Football Focus' No. 1 center in 2013. He'll probably aim for a deal similar to the one Ryan Kalil signed with the Panthers at six years and $49.1 million with $19 million guaranteed. Mack has previously said he'll give the Browns a chance to match any offer, though that was before the coaching staff was fired after one season."

per rotoworld.

I don't think Raji could ever cost too much for us. We want to run a hybrid defense, hes the perfect type of DT to have. Scheme diverse, can rash from the middle, can hold a edge... Although I have always thought he was poorly utilized in GB, much like Dorsey in KC, he would be a instant upgrade at the UT for us.

"Impending free agent C Alex Mack is expected to test the open market.
Mack, 28, will likely be the Browns' top priority and could be franchise-tagged, but CEO Joe Banner may not believe in doling out that kind of cash to a center. Mack is going to be a hot commodity on the open market and is easily the top center available in free agency -- he graded out as Pro Football Focus' No. 1 center in 2013. He'll probably aim for a deal similar to the one Ryan Kalil signed with the Panthers at six years and $49.1 million with $19 million guaranteed. Mack has previously said he'll give the Browns a chance to match any offer, though that was before the coaching staff was fired after one season."

per rotoworld.

I don't think Raji could ever cost too much for us. We want to run a hybrid defense, hes the perfect type of DT to have. Scheme diverse, can rash from the middle, can hold a edge... Although I have always thought he was poorly utilized in GB, much like Dorsey in KC, he would be a instant upgrade at the UT for us.

Not directed at you, I am tempted to use NFL Rewind to count how many times the Raiders deployed a 34 defense as I am "hybrid" defense fatigued. Was DA using a 34 because of the defenses complete inability to mount a pass rush? Idk. What is the consensus on how much 34 the Raiders ran? Why would Raji come to Oakland if the Raiders run 34 50% of time?

Clearly Raji wants to be an UT. He wants someone next to him to eat double teams so he can focus on splitting the gap. Personally, it looked like to me both DTs were playing gap control mostly. I can't really see the fit UNLESS either the Raiders acquire either Hardy or Clowney or both and go pure 43 and scrap the "hybrid" because with that much pressure on the edges you could have an UT and won't have to disguise much with that much talent. "This is what we play and it's up to their offense to block it" attitude.

I just don't see it. Players aren't THAT stupid. What "hybrid" turns into is mainly 34 defense the second Raji is added without Hardy or Clowney. Why? Because Raji is great at what he does, which is eating blockers. The Raiders shouldn't try to fool a guy who wants to be an UT into playing in a 34. Raji has already been offered money which he declined and has already experienced team success. He wants some "me" time and play in a fun defense where he is highlighted. No problem. But I wouldn't want to fool anyone into coming to Oakland anyways because that's how you get Haynesworth meltdowns.

You 34 guys tickle me. Always trying to sneak the 34 in. "Well we have Sims, Houston and BJ Raji now and all these leos running around and the 43 isn't working maybe we should try a 34 base?" Lol. duh? I would love for BJ to sign with Oakland but I can't see it happening without assurances and a commitment to the 43 which is ultimately not what 34 guys want to hear. (not to anyone in particular) So pick one. Either Raji is coming and the Raiders are going 43 but I highly doubt anyone who wants to be an UT wants to be in a hybrid 43 so move on from Raji._________________

Nodisrespect wrote:

(on building inside out) teams without highly draft DT's make the playoffs and win the superbowl regularly.

Bonez wrote:

Teams that win Superbowls and make the playoffs aren't picking in the Top 5, clearly