I switched the crimp starter in my P-W from the 6-point/8-point style to the smooth cone for paper hulls. I think it makes nicer crimps because it gathers a little more plastic into the center and I don't have to count the folds in the hulls I'm gathering.

Some of those darn black Remington hulls can be loaded 15 or 20 times, and you will get tired of seeing them again and again, but for some strange reason they will load more times than any other colored Remington hull I have found; and I just cannot justify throwing away a hull just because you are tired of it. I have no idea why the black hull reloads more times that the green or gold, but it will! the beav

I agree with the dr.beav, I do not reload and shoot just the steel base hulls. The black 8 point Game Loads hold up real well for reloading. The majority of my reloads are brass bases but what I do like about the Remington hulls is a few of the color variations. I use the colors to identify shell types. 16 yd. Trap = red, Hdcp. = silver, Skeet = green, Sptg./5-stand = black&gold. Works for me. I'm tossing long before I get to 12-15 reloads but believe some can be done that many times.

Seriously, the black ones are also called "Remington Game Loads" The majority of the ones given to me are 8 point. I've seen these Game Loads everywhere. DICK'S, Wally World, K-Mart, they are everywhere. More of a promotional load compared to a Long Range Express. Usually a 1 oz. load.