If it doesn't convince you after you've tried it, then that's on you. But if a guy you tussle with swears by it (and you lose, or admit that he hits HARD and fights WELL), you have no right to say it didn't help him. Same with someone that suffers from x, y, and z health issues. You can't tell someone that it didn't help them, or that it was "all psychological," because the proof is in the pudding. Acupuncture is being added to a LOT of hospitals around the United States as alternate therapies.

Why are you trying to start an argument? Your post has nothing to do with the OP. I think you read the other thread and came here all angry.

He asked what our thoughts on qigong and neigong are, and I gave my views. No intentions of being angry. Why are you derailing the thread?

This is what he asked

So, what do you think? Are Qigong and Neigong important to martial arts practice?

Nothing in your post adresses this question.

How do you conceptualize these concepts; for example, do you see it as ancient nomenclature for things that can be correlated/explained with modern physiology or medicine?

Nothing in your posts answers this question.

Or do you view them as metaphysical, objectively incorrect practices.

Nothing in your post answers this question.

If you do believe in their worth, how much time/focus do you place on these things?

Nothing in your post answers these questions.

So, your entire posts is a derail.

Originally Posted by csharp.negative

If it doesn't convince you after you've tried it, then that's on you. But if a guy you tussle with swears by it (and you lose, or admit that he hits HARD and fights WELL), you have no right to say it didn't help him. Same with someone that suffers from x, y, and z health issues. You can't tell someone that it didn't help them, or that it was "all psychological," because the proof is in the pudding. Acupuncture is being added to a LOT of hospitals around the United States as alternate therapies.