Hello again Mas, I was looking to buy some Golden Sabers in 230 grain .45 and I came across the ( New? ) Remington HD Ultimate Home Defense rounds. The store was out of Golden Sabers so I opened the box and was surprised ( confused ) that the HD looked exactly like the GS. I went ahead and bought them cause I needed some HP for my .45. I went on Remingtons website and looked at the specs. They seem to be the exact same round as the GS. Is this just some new marketing ploy, or am I missing something? They have the exact same bullet and casing as the GS; but I was wondering if they maybe have a different powder or charge? Like I said before, they have all the same specs. as the GS. I was hoping you could let us know if it's truly different or just a GS with a more P.C. name. Thanks again for all you do for us Mas.

Mas Ayoob

06-07-2010, 06:16

I reached out to Remington for you on this, and their official company answer follows verbatim:

"These are the same loads, same design, same specifications.

Golden Saber is our premium P&R duty ammunition for the Law Enforcement market. The Home Defense brand has been re-named and repackaged for the commercial market. The brand 'Home Defense' more clearly defines the product usage for the commercial shooter."

best,
Mas

Patriot78

06-07-2010, 18:22

Same rounds in a warm and fuzzy package? http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w330/hatchetwound2008/brilliant.jpg Thank you Mas, and thank you Remington for giving us the &quot; People of the jury, yes my client used hollow points, BUT they were special Home Defense rounds. &quot; argument.