Okay you 'Liberals' that come on here I have a question. If you are so concerned about 'minority' rights/ human rights etc why do you persistantly ignore the very real question of womens rights? You embrace islam and judaism and african cultures who routinely abuse and effectively enslave women, cultures where rape and physical and emotional abuse is prevalent. White society is the only culture in which women are even seen as equal or given human rights. I beg you to disagree with that statement and try to find evidence to the contrary! You protest the war in Afghanistan and Iraq, as usual the evil imperialist white man has to go and pilage and destroy the utopian paradise of the taliban and the baathists. Incidentally I never saw you protesting Saddam Insanes war for oil on Kuwait but I digress..

You are so desperate to have these cultures over here, and to appease their customs and pander to their every wish or desire, including burning this country to the ground or turning it into a jewrab hellhole and exterminating the white race. Why? Seriously, why? If you have such a fetish for these things and these 'people' why mot go to live with them? You could go to Sudan to teach their kids, just don't name a teddy bear muhammed or anything equally opressive, although these people are so friendly and all about human rights and anti-racism unlike us there won't be any problems surely?

One other question is why don't you have the same position for gays and paedophiles? Surely they are all part of the 'human race' as well? Why do you try to discredit WN as being gay so often? First of all nobody believes your bull, secondly aren't you supposed to be more tolerant than to make fun of someones sexuality? Isn't it 'racist' considering homosexuality is deeply ingrained into black Brazilian, Turkish and Indian culture?

Okay you 'Liberals' that come on here I have a question. If you are so concerned about 'minority' rights/ human rights etc why do you persistantly ignore the very real question of womens rights? You embrace islam and judaism and african cultures who routinely abuse and effectively enslave women, cultures where rape and physical and emotional abuse is prevalent. White society is the only culture in which women are even seen as equal or given human rights. I beg you to disagree with that statement and try to find evidence to the contrary! You protest the war in Afghanistan and Iraq, as usual the evil imperialist white man has to go and pilage and destroy the utopian paradise of the taliban and the baathists. Incidentally I never saw you protesting Saddam Insanes war for oil on Kuwait but I digress..

You are so desperate to have these cultures over here, and to appease their customs and pander to their every wish or desire, including burning this country to the ground or turning it into a jewrab hellhole and exterminating the white race. Why? Seriously, why? If you have such a fetish for these things and these 'people' why mot go to live with them? You could go to Sudan to teach their kids, just don't name a teddy bear muhammed or anything equally opressive, although these people are so friendly and all about human rights and anti-racism unlike us there won't be any problems surely?

One other question is why don't you have the same position for gays and paedophiles? Surely they are all part of the 'human race' as well? Why do you try to discredit WN as being gay so often? First of all nobody believes your bull, secondly aren't you supposed to be more tolerant than to make fun of someones sexuality? Isn't it 'racist' considering homosexuality is deeply ingrained into black Brazilian, Turkish and Indian culture?

Incidentally if you have no response I left a deliberate typo in there for you to disprove my entire argument. Well its near Christmas, sorry xmas.

Okay you 'Liberals' that come on here I have a question. If you are so concerned about 'minority' rights/ human rights etc why do you persistantly ignore the very real question of womens rights? White society is the only culture in which women are even seen as equal or given human rights.

Many of the rights that western women enjoy now, and you admire, were only recenctly achieved. But it sounds
to me like you greatly appreciate the accomplishments of the many liberal leaders that worked to bring about
these much needed civil and societal changes.

Mabey with the help of compassionate people like yourself we can work together
and someday rid the world of human rights abuses?

When we point out the faults of other races we're only supposed to judge on an individual basis, but when it comes to talking about the faults of some white people it's suddenly ok to generalise and judge all white people as a group. So it's ok to say "whites stole the indian's land" but it's not ok to say "arabs treat women poorly".

Well, yes, even through the culture of many countries is extremly conservative, not all of them treat women as being inferior. And, yes, I am aware that in many countries with a white majority the rights of women are respected. On immigrants with a different culture- well, firstly, I respect the right of everyone to follow what traditions and culture they want, as time as they don't break the laws. And violence against women, forced marriages, dening education for women, or their right to vote, etc is breaking the laws. So, all is needed is to respect the laws, in my opinion.

Paedophiles are part of the human race, but so are criminals. they either belong to prison or to a phychologist. I have nothing against homosexuals.

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Well, yes, even through the culture of many countries is extremly conservative, not all of them treat women as being inferior. And, yes, I am aware that in many countries with a white majority the rights of women are respected. On immigrants with a different culture- well, firstly, I respect the right of everyone to follow what traditions and culture they want, as time as they don't break the laws. And violence against women, forced marriages, dening education for women, or their right to vote, etc is breaking the laws. So, all is needed is to respect the laws, in my opinion.

Ok, but in America, blacks and whites basically live and work within the same national culture and set of laws. Many black families have been in this country for hundreds of years longer than many white families.

So, why do blacks rape 39,000 White women and God knows how many women of other races per year? Meanwhile, White men rape less than 10 black women per year.

Doesn't that bother you? We all live under the same laws in this country, so why is one race raping so much more than an other? What is your excuse for that?

Good question. As a liberal, I happen to believe in women's rights. You mention Islamic societies as an example. The problem is that we (the United States) have no control over these societies. However, we do have control over such practices in our own society. I believe in the freedom of religion, but once a religion limits the freedom of any group, be it women, children or other religious groups, then I'd say ban it (not the religion, but the practice).

You are correct that the western civilizations give women the most freedom. But don't forget that it hasn't always been that way. 100 years ago, women could not vote in most western democracies and were forced to stay home to take care of the children and the kitchen. Even today, in many states, women make less money than their male counterparts in the same positions. Equal rights for women are still new in our society and not yet optimized. I'm sure that this will happen sometime in the future, and I have hope for other societies as well.

But don't forget that many Islamic women are happy with playing the submissive role - because it's part of their religious belief. I'm not talking about those who are beaten and abused. I'm talking about normal family life in the Islamic world.

My suspicion is that will somehow be whitey's fault because we've oppressed and mistreated them for so long that now they're all full of anger which they have to vent by raping people.

Oh of course! Or they will completely avoid the question and tell me that men of all races rape women. And while that may be true, the numbers are vastly unequal worldwide.

Blacks rape at an amazing rate in the U.S. They've created an epidemic of rape in Europe, not to mention how big of a problem it is in Africa.

And people, please don't say "lack of education" because it doesn't take a genius to know that if a woman is screaming, punching, kicking, and crying, you probably shouldn't be doing what you're doing to her. Again, saying "lack of education" takes responsibility off the individual and blames someone else.

Many of the rights that western women enjoy now, and you admire, were only recenctly achieved. But it sounds
to me like you greatly appreciate the accomplishments of the many liberal leaders that worked to bring about
these much needed civil and societal changes.

Mabey with the help of compassionate people like yourself we can work together
and someday rid the world of human rights abuses?

Yes, when the white race is unfettered by the shackles of race mixing and cultural confusion we can live once again with honour and mutual respect, gun violence and crack cocaine will be a thing of the past in white countries.
European women were very highly valued in Pagan cultures, it was christianity that changed all that, as all the abrahamic judaic religions have done.
PS The rights of women were not established by 'liberal leaders' but by the ordinary people who stood up for what they believed in despite being marginalised and censored.

When we point out the faults of other races we're only supposed to judge on an individual basis, but when it comes to talking about the faults of some white people it's suddenly ok to generalise and judge all white people as a group. So it's ok to say "whites stole the indian's land" but it's not ok to say "arabs treat women poorly".

Bang on! We know them better than they know themselves! And here it comes..

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Originally Posted by I believe in human race.

Well, yes, even through the culture of many countries is extremly conservative, not all of them treat women as being inferior. And, yes, I am aware that in many countries with a white majority the rights of women are respected. On immigrants with a different culture- well, firstly, I respect the right of everyone to follow what traditions and culture they want, as time as they don't break the laws. And violence against women, forced marriages, dening education for women, or their right to vote, etc is breaking the laws. So, all is needed is to respect the laws, in my opinion.

Paedophiles are part of the human race, but so are criminals. they either belong to prison or to a phychologist. I have nothing against homosexuals.

So you agree with the laws that allow blacks to have an NAACP, black history month etc etc etc etc but whites to be imprisoned for simply talking about being white? What about in Afghanistan where women are stoned to death because their husband alleges she looked at another man? And then a week later marries his next 14 year old girl? Should they just 'respect the laws' or is the re a deeper issue that needs to be addressed?