Sunday, October 26, 2008

More Paperwork

Chicago cops for the first time will have to photograph homes they search, in an effort to protect officers from false complaints, police said Friday.

The new order will require officers to make a log of what they find during a search and give a copy of the log to the person living there.

The order also will change how searches are supervised.

Last year, after officers in the Special Operations Section were arrested for allegedly stealing from citizens during searches, lieutenants were required to be present.

But that requirement is being scrapped to free up lieutenants for other duties. The department executes about 2,400 search warrants a year.

Are these going to be "before and after" pictures? We assume the pictures are to be taken as soon as the premises are secured, but now we're going to have an affiant, entry team, security team, search officer, inventory officer, and a paparazzi officer? Who's supplying these cameras? Film and film processing costs? Digital? Storage and software for chain of evidence issues? And what's to stop Joe Public from taking his own shots after CPD leaves and passing them off as the aftermath of a particularly "vigorous" search? These are questions it'd be nice to have answers to from someone in authority rather than the sketchy details provided by the Sun Times (and thanks again for keeping us informed via Department channels rather than through the media J-Fed)

168 Comments:

You will buy a disposable camera and use it to record the damage you do on all search warrants. Then you will hire a illegal alien to rebuild the front door you busted down. If you refuse to comply with my directive you will be sent to STALAG 017.

I hope you guys have been paying attention to tony peraica's actions this past week. Here's a few examples. During the week he referred to convicted murders as victims in regards to Jon Burges' arrest. Today he was a guest at operation push with the communist G. Flint Taylor, who wants detectives arrested with Burge.

a day after complaimg about the thousands of hours officers spend inventorying arrestees property hes going to add thousands more doinga n inventory on searches? do you know how much bling and plasma tvs these drug dealers have?

We dont have the resources like the FBI who have 10 hours to process a scene

They should get D-2a minimunm how about d-3? They have alal the dics, and d-3 guys working all the special that is a d-1 position, why not pay all of the warrant teams D-2a? It would only be fair! Hey boss 35th street stated there was an order on all the bullshit special, if you want to work you get paid the fair d-1 rate and not the d-2a pay and d-3 rate! I know boss there is to much clout there but you have testicular fortitude and can take a stand right??

Most of the places I have been involved in doing search warrants looked pretty well trashed WHEN WE GOT THERE. Afterwards didn't look much worse and in a few cases to make a more orderly and productive search, actually looked better.

A few teams citywide have had the training already. It basically goes like this, once the residence is secure you take photos of all the rooms (basically a walkthrough of the house), then you must photograph any contraband found in the original spot it was found. Then you take pictures of the aftermath, another walkthrough of the residence. Finally you take a picture of the point of entry to show that you "made an attempt" to secure the door.

The cameras are digital and are already in the units/districts. You upload the pictures straight onto e-track and inventory a photocopy of the search warrant. You cannot delete any pictures, once they are taken they are assigned a number and they must go in sequence for court. There will no longer be a need for the LT to go on the warrant and that should help a lot of teams.

It may be a pain, it may be used against us, but it may also help prosecution. Who knows...

Dont blow it out to be something it isnt. Its an easy process and really does benefit the team doing the warrant. And NO-- I didnt help write it, Im not an exempt, nor am I some sycophant. I call a spade a spade and this isnt that bad.

Don't worry SCC the newly formed Area 2 Search Warrant team will cover the south side of the city!

Yep, another unit/detail/covert team/etc,etc, - that is what we need.

Heard from a friend that this team has two guys with less than 2 years on!! What the fuck do they KNOW about doing a search warrant?? hell, what do they know about being the police!??

In true city fashion also heard that these two had a phone call, one of them is Hibbiddy Dibbiddy Dana Starks nephew. Nice. Team them up with the two broads who do nothing and could not spell search warrant on the team and you wonder why this department is going down.

A search warrant team where nobody knows how to do them or does them, great move.

OT:I don't get it. Can someone please explain why this JACKASS, ALD. NO STONES can "threaten" the IG and his office for doing their job? And can anyone explain WHY aldermen are not able to be investigated by the IG's office? PLEASE I really don't get it.Second, how is it that the prick MUNOZ can be FILMED HITTING A CONCERNED CITIZEN and nothing is done???!!! HEY JODY I HOPE YOU ARE REFERRING THIS ONE TO YOUR FED PALS AS A VIOLATION OF THE CIVILIANS CIVIL RIGHTS!!!STEP UP NOW!!!!

The order per se does not mention "Before" pictures. Primiarily it is for recovery of evidence and securing of residence.Its no big deal, but it becomes another technicality for IAD to hang you. You may have taken pictures, but they are out of sequence, you r gigged.

It's true, digital cameras to be given to districts, yes you will have one officer assigned to take the photos and then inventory them by uploading into the computer. There is a whole online course to take and pass. And yes before and after pics to take. My question is always going to be, will there be a Before the search, after the search and then the real search begins, because no matter what you know dude is going to say you fucked his shit up no matter what. Wait I forgot I stopped doing search warrants for this god forsaken dept a while ago

Hey, I'm as pro law enforcement as the next guy, but while you're complaining about this, bear in mind that the stimulus for this is COPS STEALING FROM PEOPLE'S HOUSES.

Seriously, I used to live there and CPD guys getting investigated, sued, or arrested for criminal acts was, and is, an ongoing thing. Not all of it's the savages winning the ghetto lottery either. Just the facts, Jack, just the facts......

O.T. Doesn’t Dick Durbin, the Turban, have any shame? He spent the majority of this election season slagging the troops and advocating for the Muslim terrorist scum, and now he is doing commercials giving the impression that he is the GI’s best friend. What a fuckin’ hypocrite! This little twerp is a lying little fuck, just like the rest of the DemocRATS who are backing the donkey- eared lawn jockey. What a wretched group of politicians the DemocRATS have running for office this year. Are the American people nuts to even consider voting for these American haters? The only people who will make out if the Messiah wins are the Afro-nooners. They can throw away their alarm clocks and sleep even more than they do now. McCain and the Republicans…Before it’s too late.The Turbin is against free speech: In 2007, speaking as Senate Majority Whip, Durbin went on record as stating that "It’s time to reinstitute the Fairness Doctrine," coercively regulating talk radio by reviving rules requiring privately-owned commercial stations to balance conservative hosts such as Rush Limbaugh with liberals pigs such as Al Franken. Keep your “shit” at the ready!!

It just goes to show that the leaders of this department either never did a search warrant, or have forgotten what is involved in a search warrant. As anyone who has done a search warrant knows, you document what you recovered from the scene of the search, along with a diagram of where each recovered item was discovered, on the seach warrant data sheet.

I wish one of those over paid idiots, that are our so called leaders, would read the department orders first,before they put these bone headed ideas in the news, they just might learn something.

It just re-enforces the notion that civilians have no business running a police department

It's actually a good idea ... it protects coppers and shows the true condition left by the police ... we did it when I worked tact for years with a polaroid and then in narcotics with a digital ... helps the court case too ... it's a piece of cake ... once the residence is secured of course ... then have the evidence officer or Sgt. take the pictures ... no big deal ... unless you are lazy or a whiner of course ...

Stop looking at everything so negative. It's going to cover your ass some day. That's how the Feds do it and other departments across the nation and it works just fine. They should also take pictures of the offender once he or she is arrested and put into evidence to prevent false allegations of excessive force or what type of clothing the offender was wearing at the time of arrest. Officers would have to take a days course on photography and then sign out a camera along with your radio after roll-call. The only problem is that it has to be well planned and organized for it to work. And we all know the CPD....

Let the truth be told most Lt and Capt only complained about going on SW's. Most want nothing to do with them. They tell the troops to do them but they don't want to be involved. Typical white shirts now they will have nothing to do with them. All the Lt's are just too busy doing nothing. I say most, I'm a LT and will still will go on SW's. I will always be there for the Officers.

OT: Instead of more paperwork why doesn't the CPD provide more training for its officers? Did you realize that all LAPD officers/detectives qualify with their handguns every month, shotguns every quarter, and other units have budgets for more advanced training above and beyond what the regular officers get. While im sure the LAPD is far from perfect, it wouldnt hurt CPD to take some advice from the LAPD on to at least invest REAL training into its employees...Check out the article...

Not even forty officers initially applied for the Strike Force, so the 35th street brain trust lowered the years of service requirement from five to three years.We also heard that the requirement for supervisors applying was dropped from three years in grade to one year.

So is this a case of unseasoned officers being led by untested supervisors? Or more sour grapes from someone with an axe to grind?

-------------That is the funniest thing I have ever heard. JOdy's MOBILE STRIKE FORCE DIDN'T GET ANY PEOPLE. THAT IS FUCKING GREAT, GOOD TO SEE PEOPLE R STICKING TOGETHER!

Should we take a poll of how many posts that state, "I done working", "I ain't doing shit", J-Fed sucks" because of this order. The officers of this department are a joke, everyone looks for an excuse not to work.

Had a guy come in and explain this to us last week. Every tact team and gun team will be supplied with a Cannon digital camera. They come with standard batteries and a set of rechargeable ones. If the cameras break you may borrow from another team or call an ET who will be under your direction to photo what you tell them to. You must take 4 sets of pictures. As soon as the location is secure you photo everything. If you find anything of evidentiary value you photo it BEFORE recovering it. You photo everything after the search. If there is nobody at the location you secure the location and photo it. I guess people were complaining that their homes were being burglarized after CPD was leaving.

Once these pictures are taken you will load them into E-track. They will be “attached” to the inventoried of the copy of the search warrant.

The mobile strike force is jfeds last chance. I former 153er interviwed for mobile strike force told them it was not for me. Rumor has it that these 96 officers are going to be put out on a limb. SOS worked because well I wont say. How is this going to work what are they going to do. The guy running this new unit is a good man but I think he is dreaming a little. Oh well God bless those who go but remember how lt. JB would sell doing THE JOB and look at those guys who followed their lt. He is retired they are fired, call back , pows, some pled guilty to crimes , one in mcc, many have lawyer costs that have destroyed them. When the benefit party is over and the hangover wears off you and your family are left to deal with what happened one night.

WHen you do a consent to search, the sergeant is required to be there, the po must then make a map of the apartment searched after the search. Now they want to photo. I understand liability, but I also understand police work. Who's gonna want to do search warrants?

Next, let's make the Lt. have to come out with us to do a warrant. Oh wait, they already want that! Half these Lt's are house mouse nerds. They want me to take them with, I don't think so

C'mon now. Those important event number mission sheets prove why we need more educated idiots fucking up this department. If its on a piece of CPD paper its good as gold. NOT! Hit the medical 3rd, 4th, & 5th of November and protect your home front as the usual drain of the city torches it.

Those of us who have done numerous search warrants know it could take a couple of days to search a house with an upstairs and basement for drugs. Why do we rush through and probably miss most of what we search for. Take your time and get paid a lot of city money in overtime. it be nice to get paid for 24 straight hours of overtime to make them happy. Wouldn't If they want a neat job, then give them one on their dime. Otherwise, expect to get sued for destroying a property. All we need is more lawsuits and more people in callback.

TWENTY and OUT said... OT:I don't get it. Can someone please explain why this JACKASS, ALD. NO STONES can "threaten" the IG and his office for doing their job? And can anyone explain WHY aldermen are not able to be investigated by the IG's office? PLEASE I really don't get it.Second, how is it that the prick MUNOZ can be FILMED HITTING A CONCERNED CITIZEN and nothing is done???!!! HEY JODY I HOPE YOU ARE REFERRING THIS ONE TO YOUR FED PALS AS A VIOLATION OF THE CIVILIANS CIVIL RIGHTS!!!STEP UP NOW!!!!

10/26/2008 01:19:00 AM

MUNOZ stone gang banging punk will anyone step up? How about it j-fed show fairness and have him arrested for civil rights violations! On another note boss all the alderthieves are carrying guns, are they all properly registered! Why are they not required any training? Maybe at the next grilling you could tell these clowns to patrol their wards after all they carry badges and guns!

Anonymous said... Not even forty officers initially applied for the Strike Force, so the 35th street brain trust lowered the years of service requirement from five to three years.We also heard that the requirement for supervisors applying was dropped from three years in grade to one year.

So is this a case of unseasoned officers being led by untested supervisors? Or more sour grapes from someone with an axe to grind?

-------------That is the funniest thing I have ever heard. JOdy's MOBILE STRIKE FORCE DIDN'T GET ANY PEOPLE. THAT IS FUCKING GREAT, GOOD TO SEE PEOPLE R STICKING TOGETHER!

10/26/2008 10:01:00 AMThe banquet halls want more to go to msf! Why? More fund=raising options for the coppers who get indicted, stripped,suspended etc... That is why they have all the young hair gel skullsful of mush join! To the ones that joined we told you so!!

the hardest part of a aearch warrant was finding a lt willing to come along without making you jump through loops. order came out yesterday. now you have to notify swat if your warrant is for a firearm and if the target has a history of violence. swat is a good resource but the process is a pain in the ass. if all i have to do is take snap shots of the residence before and after thats not that bad. makes it easier to draw the diagram on post execution.

Now just think what do they mean not what they say. Many moons ago, 1972-3 the dept. came out with the order mandating that the w/c had to conduct an investigation any time someone was charged with resisting or battery on a PO. What were they saying...no resisters. The dept. issued an order and severely restricting the requirements on chases and monitoring of same...what were they saying no chases. Now they come out with this overly labor intensive, dot the i.s and cross the t.s search warrant order... What are they saying....You guessed right if you said no search warrants.

Let the truth be told most Lt and Capt only complained about going on SW's. Most want nothing to do with them. They tell the troops to do them but they don't want to be involved. Typical white shirts now they will have nothing to do with them. All the Lt's are just too busy doing nothing. I say most, I'm a LT and will still will go on SW's. I will always be there for the Officers.

Anonymous said... Should we take a poll of how many posts that state, "I done working", "I ain't doing shit", J-Fed sucks" because of this order. The officers of this department are a joke, everyone looks for an excuse not to work.

10/26/2008 10:46:00 AM

Thank you. I take that as a compliment. Is the question, not work but cover your ass? Avoid pokitical disciplinary policy? Avoid federal civil rights charges? Unfounded complaints from citizens who lie despite signing a affadavit? No reason to take a poll. Look at arrest statistics, recovered weapon numbers.

OT: Instead of more paperwork why doesn't the CPD provide more training for its officers? Did you realize that all LAPD officers/detectives qualify with their handguns every month, shotguns every quarter, and other units have budgets for more advanced training above and beyond what the regular officers get. While im sure the LAPD is far from perfect, it wouldnt hurt CPD to take some advice from the LAPD on to at least invest REAL training into its employees...Check out the article...

10/26/2008 09:27:00 AM_______________________________They RAN OUT OF AMMO citywide the day I went to qualify and all the range people were bitching they keep requisitioning and don't get any ammo, but you think the Dept will have us qualify an extra eleven times a year??? $$$$$

Who gives enough of a fuck to do ghetto search warrants anymore? When Phat Phil chastised narcotics for doing a warrant on a dope house in 016 was enough for me. He bitched that it didn't impact his homicide numbers, therefore its OK to have dope houses in 016.They'll be getting guys to do this shit by reverse seniority soon.

It is time for the U.S. Attorney to step in and take control of this ut of control place. Not the F.B.I. ; the U.S. Attorneys Office. There's too much death in the streets, and all previous bright ideas have been abysmal failures, so someone has to step up and take control, knock of the Shitcago Politics, and get this back to a law enforcement organization-Police Department, instead of the politically correct corupt Democrat whore house it has become.

I hope you guys have been paying attention to tony peraica's actions this past week. Here's a few examples. During the week he referred to convicted murders as victims in regards to Jon Burges' arrest. Today he was a guest at operation push with the communist G. Flint Taylor, who wants detectives arrested with Burge.

10/26/2008 12:13:00 AM

Yup you are right. I'm a republican but he has changed my mind im going with Alvarez. I couldn't believe it when he was saying that bullshit.

they make it so difficult to do a search warrant, i'm coming to the point that i don't want to do them anymore. now all these photo's and extra time in the target house and then back at the station doing more now with downloading the photo's. this new order even wants you to notify canine and hi-entry team. what brain scientists comes up with these G.O.'s.

pictures used in the prosecution of a case. huh? did you forget we work in cook county. they'll find or should i say, make up any excuse to throw out a case and if its rock solid you're lucky to get your guy any jail time. usually its probation on top of probation or parole with no violation. this place sucks

Not that I even give a hoot, but what the hell else does a field lt. have to do?

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I'm not fronting for them, but in my district there is rarely a field Lt. They are all covering for other district shortages. But if you ask a field Lt and they are honest, they will tell you it's the best gig in patrol.

021 doggies are a bunch of pansies.... Someone on the tac team (SS are the initials... got intoa fight at a bar in oak lawn a while back and had his jaw wired shut) is a RAT... Do not trust him... NO JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is a FUCKING FAT STINKY CHEESE EATING RRRRAAAATTTTT!

Off topic, SCC. Who will be chosen to lead this Dept. When J-Fed is given the boot by Daley? We all know that a shallow pool exists of people qualified to run this Job and turn things around, who do most of the posters here believe has the best chance early next year when J-Fed is gone. Where will the buffoons of the Supt.'s Chief of Staff and Policy Section offices be sent off to? Whoever moves in to replace Weis will send those assholes packing too.

Here's the problem of photographing evidence prior to actually recovering it. There is a thing called "chain of custody", and it is always brought up in trial by the Defense Atty. A half sharp Defense Atty. has enough to put doubt in the Judges mind or a Jury's mind. All this will do is decrease SW's by at least 50 %.

Officers will execute the warrant securing the scene/premise. A few ET's will then enter with new BETA HD Brodcast quality cameras following- documenting-memorializing officers actions and findings.

This serves 3 purposes #1) Video in a court proceeding is hard to beat. #2) OT savings- Officers will NOT be needed in court as the video and reports will be stipulated as the Officers Testimony. #3) Will further assist the CPD and City to reduce Labor(OT) costs.

OT - I guess the 48 hours wasn't enough... Bond said Balfour, who had been in police custody since Friday, was transferred Sunday to the Illinois Department of Corrections "based on his active parole violation unrelated to this investigation."

Records from the corrections department show Balfour, 27, is on parole and spent nearly seven years in prison for attempted murder, vehicular hijacking and possessing a stolen vehicle.

Corrections spokeswoman Januari Smith said Balfour would likely remain in state custody until the Illinois Prisoner Review Board looked at his case. She would not say exactly where Balfour was being held.

It was unclear if Balfour had an attorney to speak for him Sunday, but his mother, Michele Balfour, has denied that he was involved the killings or in Julian's disappearance.

Its not a big deal, was trained on it last week. Majority of houses we do warrants on are total shit holes to begin with, so....let the rest of the world see how common criminals live. Paints a nice picture when you find dope or a gun in the babys room, or, dude says he dont stay there and you have photos of his personal property in the bedroom where you recovered contraband. Im sure it will have its glitches, but in the long run its for our own good, makes the warrant seem more professional for the jury and judge. Also, some of the furniture and decorations in these shit holes are hilarious, photos will capture the black panther glass table or lion area rug hanging on the wall!

SO THEY TAKE A PICTURE OF A STACK OF MONEY? AND IF ITS 100 K 0R A MILLION WHAT DOES THE PICTURE TELL YOU...

40 LBS OF WEED OR 80 LBS CAN THE PICTURE TELL... THE DRUG DEALER WILL ALWAYS SAY U STOLE SOMETHING HOW DO PICTURES HELP?

U WOULD NEED AN INSPECTOR WHO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A CASE TAKE THE PICTURES. I KNOW THEY R TOOOO BUSY CHECKING FOR CITY STICKER W/ THEIR DIGITAL CAMERAS AND CUTTING AND PASTING THOSE VERY IMPORTANT REPORTS (TINT ON WINDOWS/PLATE COVERS).

THAT CONSENT DECREE MUST BE IN AFFECT B-CUZ NO ONE FROM THIS PLANET WOULD CHANGE SO MANY NON-ESSENTIAL ASPECT OF THIS JOB.

HEY WHY NOT HAVE A VIDEO CAMERA LIKE THEY DO ON "COPS" FOLLOW THE OFFICERS WHILE THEY WORK THE WHOLE CASE. AND WE CAN STORE IT ON YOU TUBE SO THE CITY WOULDNT NEED TO STORE AND THE DEFENSE COULD JUST GOOGLE IT UP.

"I hope you guys have been paying attention to tony peraica's actions this past week. Here's a few examples. During the week he referred to convicted murders as victims in regards to Jon Burges' arrest. Today he was a guest at operation push with the communist G. Flint Taylor, who wants detectives arrested with Burge.

10/26/2008 12:13:00 AM"

Thank you, Anita, we all know Periaca is a prick, but at least he's not daley's prick.

And I doubt Tony's going to have time to fuck with the small fry, as he'll be very busy fucking with the bigger fish there are to roast over the coals fired by the powers of the State's Attorney's Office.

You know, the office that's supposed to be protecting the citizens of this crooked county from the biggest crooks around.

I saw this terrorist prick on Fox news Thursday.The Fox people were waiting at his house to question his Osama dealings.He refused to talk to them,but called 911 for help !!! This cock sucker attempts to kill the Police,then like all these liberal pricks who do they call for help..

Who cares? why the fuck are u doing search warrants nowadays anyway? I give a fuck about all the dope in this shit city, the more fuckers that get high and OD the better. FUCK the ghetto. Sorry but I have had enough of lawsuits and enough BS from thsi shit job to care anymore

Should we take a poll of how many posts that state, "I done working", "I ain't doing shit", J-Fed sucks" because of this order. The officers of this department are a joke, everyone looks for an excuse not to work.

10/26/2008 10:46:00 AM

Really? Face a Civil suite or two or three before you spout off young officer. We who have been there are tired of it and no longer want to be bothered with it. It's kind of nice not to be involved in litigation and I'm finding it's really nice to sleep in and not have to go to court every damned day. You want to save the world? Have at it, be my guest. I salute you. Now go out and get yourself straight into a civil suite, but then, don't cry to us as we tried to give you sound advice from our experience. Learn with your eyes and ears not your mouth.

Off topic..... So glad that they made Lt. MB the Commanding officer of JISC. To think, they stuck that poor girl on afternoons in that horrible west side (012) district for almost a year!!!! Remember ladies, suction conquers all!

Should we take a poll of how many posts that state, "I done working", "I ain't doing shit", J-Fed sucks" because of this order. The officers of this department are a joke, everyone looks for an excuse not to work.

10/26/2008 10:46:00 AM

hit the nail on the head I will not be doing shit, nor have I been doing shit since the Cozzi incident fuck this department If I could leave I would had I known it would be this fucked up I never would have signed up for this so yes, I will not be doing shit any more

Remember is you are assigned to Obamanik on 04Nov08, take your cell phone camera and get plenty of video for youtube.You know if the need to kick ass arise, the bought and paid for Obama media will make it look as if police started the fight.

Coppers should request an E.T. to take pictures or put an out of grade slip in. If we don't stop the city now,next they will want you to start processing the crime scene. It is like eliminating a commander and having a lt. or sgt. as c/o. They are doing the same job but getting less. The sgt. and lt. unions should be grieving that situation

OFF TOPIC..Caution to all those having to deal with the 1st Watch lockup in 011. PO Birl Madden obtained 2 CR#s on Police Officers for brutality after their prisoners got out of hand in the lockup waiting area. These Officers did nothin but use emergency takedown techniques after their prisoners chose to fight once un-handcuffed. This man is a danger to all working police

This is nothing new. Narcotics has been doing this for awhile now. It doesnt change how we do search warrants. They are used to photgraph where you found the evidence. They are not looking for how you trahed the place thats going to happen anyway. You find evidence, you dont touch it. You photograph the place where it is at and then you photo graph the evidence in its place. You then recover it, record where you found it and keep going. It is a ery simple process. Those of you that are bitching about it are probably ones that either dont do search warrants or you fuck them up when you do them. Quit your whining already. The media or whoever reads this knows that the ones that bitch on here are the ones who arent doing shit out there.

************************************************ET'S get D2 pay. DETECTIVES GET D2A pay.Since DETECTIVES GET D2A pay, why not make them take the pictures? They sure as shit are not solving crime, whats the clearance rate for murder? 28%? Burglary 10%? Agg batt to PO (patrolman) 3%?

Livious T. here from 021. I see that people are posting stuff about me here. Well I want you to know that as a former P.I. who took a pay cut to be on this job, I am doing a thorough investigation on this. I even have printed this comment out and am confronting suspects.It's not my fault that Hyde Park is getting killed with robberies I'm investigating the asassination of my good character. If you help me find the culprit I will cook you a hamburger and buy you drinks.

Why the fuck would anyone go the extra mile for this city and department and put their ass on the line doing search warrants? Fuck that! We haven't done one since J-Fed took over and will never do one. It's all legit now and we have to go by the letter of the law. The leadership will turn their backs on us in a second!

P.S. Where's our contract Mr. Mayor? You keep raising and taxing everything around us and give you and your alderthieves heafty raises and then expect us to bust our ass wth no contract? F-U!!!!!

I am a Lt and was actually disappointed we were taken out of the mix. I liked going on warrants. This order says the Sgt is now the search team supervisor now. It doesn't mean we can't go. I will still be going with when I am working.

ISP RetiredI worked dope for over 10 years and have done hundreds of search warrants in that time and have always made a pre search video of the place just after entry , the evidence tech then collects what is found by the searching officers and takes a photo of that exhibit, then as we get ready to leave another post search video is taken, people are told how we do it and why, had a couple of bull shit complaints which went no where because of how we did it, it is a lot of crap to do , takes alot more time, but hey, you do what you can , collect some OT and do the next one another day.I feel for you guys with all the BS you got to put up with , I pulled pin as soon as I could because was getting fed up with all the politics in the ISP, we sure aren't what we once were.

Anonymous said... I am a Lt and was actually disappointed we were taken out of the mix. I liked going on warrants. This order says the Sgt is now the search team supervisor now. It doesn't mean we can't go. I will still be going with when I am working.

10/26/2008 09:04:00 PM

But if you're on the scene, you can't handle the CR. How is that helping your troops?

Anonymous said... ************************************************ET'S get D2 pay. DETECTIVES GET D2A pay.Since DETECTIVES GET D2A pay, why not make them take the pictures? They sure as shit are not solving crime, whats the clearance rate for murder? 28%? Burglary 10%? Agg batt to PO (patrolman) 3%?

10/26/2008 08:15:00 PM

Whaaaaaaa. You try to solve a murder when you only have 48 hours, cant hold witnesse, etc. As far as Agg. batt to PO, stop coming up to the Area with some bullshit that the offender breathed on you the wrong way and you didnt like it.

Anonymous said... ************************************************ET'S get D2 pay. DETECTIVES GET D2A pay.Since DETECTIVES GET D2A pay, why not make them take the pictures? They sure as shit are not solving crime, whats the clearance rate for murder? 28%? Burglary 10%? Agg batt to PO (patrolman) 3%?

10/26/2008 08:15

The burglaries wouldnt have to be cleared if you patroled your beat and prevented them in the first place so whaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Hey 7:49, here is how you handle jagoff lock up keepers that beef on police, fill the lockup to the brim with pissbums that just shit on themselves and are drinking on the street while ol boy is working. He'll get the hint.

OFF TOPIC..Caution to all those having to deal with the 1st Watch lockup in 011. PO Birl Madden obtained 2 CR#s on Police Officers for brutality after their prisoners got out of hand in the lockup waiting area. These Officers did nothin but use emergency takedown techniques after their prisoners chose to fight once un-handcuffed. This man is a danger to all working police

10/26/2008 07:49:00 PM Actuallty, all 011 1st watch lockup are asswipes. From the PO's to the Civilians!!. Damn right watch you back from them. How dare you bring prisoners and make the do their job. Fire the Civilians (who think they are cops) and put the asshole coppers back on the street. They work lockup cause they are scared to hit the streets. Specially the 3 year wonder who has been in the lockup since he got off his cycles.

#2) OT savings- Officers will NOT be needed in court as the video and reports will be stipulated as the Officers Testimony. #3) Will further assist the CPD and City to reduce Labor(OT) costs.

10/26/2008 04:08:00 PM

What condom did you crawl out of? How the fuck can you cross examine a videotape asswipe. I cannot even fathom how fucking stupid you are. You are the police? And your this fucking stupid? Listen here you spoon fed piece of dick cheese, please close that suck hole when adults are speaking.

021 doggies are a bunch of pansies.... Someone on the tac team (SS are the initials... got intoa fight at a bar in oak lawn a while back and had his jaw wired shut) is a RAT... Do not trust him... NO JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is a FUCKING FAT STINKY CHEESE EATING RRRRAAAATTTTT!

We have the best Sgt's and PO's in the city on 021 tact so get over it

i am a Lt and was actually disappointed we were taken out of the mix. I liked going on warrants. This order says the Sgt is now the search team supervisor now. It doesn't mean we can't go. I will still be going with when I am working.

Over 2000 searches a year? Why in the fuck would anyone want to do ONE, yes ONE search warrant? Good luck. I dont give a flyin fuck if you know there is 10,000 pounds of dope and 50 guns in a house based on a CI's interview.

Ask yourself this question. Do I like my house or condo? Do I like my car and retirement plan? Do I love my kids? (Who cares about the wife) Do I like eating steak at least 1 time a week? Need I go on?

You have to be nuts to do ONE, yes ONE fucking search warrant. Make sure you have a lawyer in the backseat of your car. Oh no. Sorry. He can take the pictures for you and bring them to your lawsuit.

Get with the program people. Dont be stupid people. SEARCH WARRANTS? HAHAHA. You have to be kidding me. What are you trying to stop anyway? The FBI cant stop it. The DEA cant stop it. Tha Army, Airforce, Navy and Marines cant stop it. But they want little old P.O. Joe to stop it. HAHAHAHAHA. Ya OK. HAHAHAHAHA

No more consent searches for me...Now that I am not making street stops and traffic stops I am running out of things to do at work.

SCC, Please help me figure out what to do at work all day.

10/26/2008 10:43:00 AMAnonymous Anonymous said...

Should we take a poll of how many posts that state, "I done working", "I ain't doing shit", J-Fed sucks" because of this order. The officers of this department are a joke, everyone looks for an excuse not to work.

10/26/2008 10:46:00 AMNo truer words have ever been written on this blog.

OFF TOPIC..Caution to all those having to deal with the 1st Watch lockup in 011. PO Birl Madden obtained 2 CR#s on Police Officers for brutality after their prisoners got out of hand in the lockup waiting area. These Officers did nothin but use emergency takedown techniques after their prisoners chose to fight once un-handcuffed. This man is a danger to all working police

10/26/2008 07:49:00 PMActuallty, all 011 1st watch lockup are asswipes. From the PO's to the Civilians!!. Damn right watch you back from them. How dare you bring prisoners and make the do their job. Fire the Civilians (who think they are cops) and put the asshole coppers back on the street. They work lockup cause they are scared to hit the streets. Specially the 3 year wonder who has been in the lockup since he got off his cycles.

10/26/2008 11:21:00 PM

I've have nothing but bad experiences in every single lock up i've been in. what is it with lock up people? one watch is great and doesn't mind doing their job, the next watch is awful bitch assholes. do your job, sit back there, watch, and take naps

If its that big of a deal come on back to the watch like the rest of us jag bags!

Take the fucking pictures or shut the fuck up!

Keep doing the warrants so when dude beefs and he allegates that his kids baptism monies were taken... YOU the fine officer are showing the very room or area via pictures that dude is saying you committed the act!

Just do what you are supposed to do and DUDE will look stupid I guess. Unless you are helping to build his case because you know dudes camera ain't been working!

10/26/2008 07:49:00 PMActuallty, all 011 1st watch lockup are asswipes. From the PO's to the Civilians!!. Damn right watch you back from them. How dare you bring prisoners and make the do their job. Fire the Civilians (who think they are cops) and put the asshole coppers back on the street. They work lockup cause they are scared to hit the streets. Specially the 3 year wonder who has been in the lockup since he got off his cycles.

10/26/2008 11:21:00 PM*********************

This is exactly WHY it is time to realize 011 and everywhere else that it is time to realize "Is it really worth it anymore"?

When the next beef comes in and YOU are on it whether it be by shithead or fellow officer, the common denominator is proactive work!

Do what you want and when you realize the ghetto isn't fun anymore and its for REAL, you only got yourself to blame for your problems!

Off topic: The jagoffs at the academy posted the scores for the K-9 exam and then took them down before Sunday morning even hit. Funny how no one can expain where the list went and when you will see your scores.

ET'S get D2 pay. DETECTIVES GET D2A pay.Since DETECTIVES GET D2A pay, why not make them take the pictures? They sure as shit are not solving crime, whats the clearance rate for murder? 28%? Burglary 10%? Agg batt to PO (patrolman) 3%?

Try clearing up crimes when you have PO's that pick up the weapons without gloves, move evidence before it gets processed and change their stories ten times before the D2A guys get there!

The Academy isn't what it used to be and common sense isn't so common anymore!!

"Actuallty, all 011 1st watch lockup are asswipes. From the PO's to the Civilians!!. Damn right watch you back from them. How dare you bring prisoners and make the do their job. Fire the Civilians (who think they are cops) and put the asshole coppers back on the street. They work lockup cause they are scared to hit the streets. Specially the 3 year wonder who has been in the lockup since he got off his cycles."

Right on! And those 011 lock-up assholes had the nerve to raise heck a few years back when a 010 dist plaincothes warrior brought an arrestee in who had a concealed loaded sawed off shotgun...and I ain't talkn' 'bout his johnson...and you complaining schmucks wonder why they have an attitude...together we can, bitches.

Stop looking at everything so negative. It's going to cover your ass some day. That's how the Feds do it and other departments across the nation and it works just fine. They should also take pictures of the offender once he or she is arrested and put into evidence to prevent false allegations of excessive force or what type of clothing the offender was wearing at the time of arrest. Officers would have to take a days course on photography and then sign out a camera along with your radio after roll-call. The only problem is that it has to be well planned and organized for it to work.

10/26/2008 07:45:00 AM

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This mindset is the problem.

This is why J-Fed cannot run the police department for a large city.

#1- The city has way too much crime and way too few officers to spend so many resources gathering evidence in one search warrant.

#2- Although the city proclaims there are 10,000 officers, the majority are administrators whose job has nothing to do with putting criminals in jail. I challenge you to find any other police department in the country with a higher percentage of "officers" whose job has nothing to do arresting criminals. The city actually has less than 5000 working officers.

#3-The city leads the nation in homicides. Where does it stand with reguards to robberies, sex assaults, shootings...etc.? I would bet that all catagories are much, much higher than NY or LA.

#4-How do pictures "cover your ass?" The citizen complaintant will just say you planted dope and then took a picture of it. And what if the SW is negative? You will have to supply a bunch of photos of damage inside the apartment. How does that cover you?

#5-The city of Chicago is not like any other big city in the US. It is really a giant Philly or Detroit. You could walk from Area 2 to Area 5 and you would be in danger the entire trip. Chicago is 70-80% hard core ghetto.

Places like Philly, Detroit, and Chicago don't solve crime. They shovel it. There is no time and there are no resources to prevent or solve a large percentage of the crime here. Also realize that almost 60% of the citizens in this city will actively obstruct any police investigation into crimes that occur on their own block. Add to that another 20% of the citizens who will simply not cooperate.

The more this department tries to turn simple arrests into major investigations, the less resources there are to stop or solve more serious crimes.

Once again CPD is way behind the times. Every other department I've ever heard of has already been doing this for search warrants (not arrest warrants) for years. It's just another piece of evidence to use in court. It's not that big of a deal.

POTUS Hussein said... No more stealing 30" dubs and Halal meat from my constituents. Rogue cops will be held to new standard starting November 5 when the prophet arrives......me, I'm the one I've been waiting for.

10/26/2008 09:17:00 PM

What is halal meat.. Soulds like pork to me. Get on you carpet and fly back to your 30 virgins

I also worked in SOS on the watch,for Lt.JB and yes he encouraged us to work and be the police. He also told us the shitbirds we arrest are not our friends and that they will use us just as fast as we would use them. In my time there I never heard Lt.JB tell anyone to steal from anyone. Truth be told SOS held down the crime rate for the city ,believe it or not.

Anonymous said... I also worked in SOS on the watch,for Lt.JB and yes he encouraged us to work and be the police. He also told us the shitbirds we arrest are not our friends and that they will use us just as fast as we would use them. In my time there I never heard Lt.JB tell anyone to steal from anyone. Truth be told SOS held down the crime rate for the city ,believe it or not.

10/27/2008 01:27:00 PM

----------------------------------That is a real ignorant comment to make. While SOS was up and running, I worked my ass off on a beat car on the east end of 8 getting (no lie) at least 7 or 8 jobs the second that I logged on and would continue to get stacked with more jobs the second I would clear. Most of us did our job to the best of our ability and made arrests daily. Just because you may have made more felony arrests on a monthly basis doesn't mean that you kept the crime down in Chicago. That was a group effort of all of the working police in Chicago who did their job just like you everyday.

Anonymous said... Once again CPD is way behind the times. Every other department I've ever heard of has already been doing this for search warrants (not arrest warrants) for years. It's just another piece of evidence to use in court. It's not that big of a deal.

10/27/2008 11:03:00 AM

Maybe not that big of a deal in suburbs who have all the time in the world. Most suburban department drive around all shift WAITING for calls. Chicago does not have the luxury of keeping officers down that long. In any event it is a good idea so people can see how the savages really live before they were JUST ABOUT TO turn their life around.

What type of retard would post this?!I've worked TACT and GANGS just like probably every other member of the SWAT team and the differences are night and day. The slight similiarity is only that niether chases the radio and its a team concept. ANY similiarity ends there.

SWAT: 1)in uniform, not plainclothes, 2)pistol qualifications 4x per year (at 90% on the SWAT course of fire), 3)Fit test 4x per year (not age or sex normed either), 4)rifle qualified 4x per year, 5)spends his own money for outside training and specialized gear, 6)is on call for jobs and high risk warrants, 7) and probably biggest difference: They gave a citywide test and invited the entire department with more than 3 years on the job to try out. After those that passed the pistol qual (%25 or so) passed, they had to pass the PT, then an oral interview, then pass rifle school, then SWAT school. Now how do you compare being on a TACT team with being on the SWAT team?I have nothing against TACT or GANGS, or even the beat cop. Without you guys in blue, us guys in green wouldnt have a job really, since our job is your safety. We get called out when patrol is out-gunned or not trained for the specific task at hand. Simple as that.To compare the two is comparing apples and oranges.

I also worked in SOS on the watch,for Lt.JB and yes he encouraged us to work and be the police. He also told us the shitbirds we arrest are not our friends and that they will use us just as fast as we would use them. In my time there I never heard Lt.JB tell anyone to steal from anyone. Truth be told SOS held down the crime rate for the city ,believe it or not.

10/27/2008 01:27:00 PM

----------------------------------That is a real ignorant comment to make. While SOS was up and running, I worked my ass off on a beat car on the east end of 8 getting (no lie) at least 7 or 8 jobs the second that I logged on and would continue to get stacked with more jobs the second I would clear. Most of us did our job to the best of our ability and made arrests daily. Just because you may have made more felony arrests on a monthly basis doesn't mean that you kept the crime down in Chicago. That was a group effort of all of the working police in Chicago who did their job just like you everyday.This is not a slam or disrespect at all to any CPD workers out there. The comment was left to whomever slammed the work SOS did.While we were in the district, we rode on almost all the in-progress calls that came out.And yes there were cars in SOS that did nothing except jump on someone elses arrest just to checkoff with a head.And being given the freedom to not being tied down to the radio assignments gave us the opportunities to work info to get the guns and shitbirds that own them off the street-which we did.Thats the stats I am talking about.

That is a real ignorant comment to make. While SOS was up and running, I worked my ass off on a beat car on the east end of 8 getting (no lie) at least 7 or 8 jobs the second that I logged on and would continue to get stacked with more jobs the second I would clear. Most of us did our job to the best of our ability and made arrests daily. Just because you may have made more felony arrests on a monthly basis doesn't mean that you kept the crime down in Chicago. That was a group effort of all of the working police in Chicago who did their job just like you everyday.

We did all the real police work, not the bs you beat cars did... sorry, I can't wait to start up at MSF and pick up where I left off, especially since they said they have our backs again... ex-153 ranger glad to be back...

What type of retard would post this?!I've worked TACT and GANGS just like probably every other member of the SWAT team and the differences are night and day. The slight similiarity is only that niether chases the radio and its a team concept. ANY similiarity ends there.-JW10/27/2008 11:15:00 PM

Anonymous said... I also worked in SOS on the watch,for Lt.JB and yes he encouraged us to work and be the police. He also told us the shitbirds we arrest are not our friends and that they will use us just as fast as we would use them. In my time there I never heard Lt.JB tell anyone to steal from anyone. Truth be told SOS held down the crime rate for the city ,believe it or not.10/27/2008 01:27:00 PM#################################Yeah, well I here tell that there is a PO over at call back that is singing like a canary everyday. He tells everyone and anyone that will listen about how they raided peoples homes and stole money and how it got split between themselves. If this guy is singing like this to people he does no know, I can only imagine what he will do once on the stand!

JOE,YOU ARE A COMPLETE DORK THAT IS UNABLE TO WORK WELL WITH A TEAM BECAUSE YOU ONLY THINK OF YOURSELF. SAFETY IS ONLY POSSIBLE WHEN EVERYONE COMPLETE HIS OWN TASK AND PUTS THE SAFETY OF THE TEAM FIRST AND ONE'S OWN EGO LAST. OFFICERS BE SAFE OUT THERE AND NEVERMIND THE STROKE ON SWAT THAT HAS OVERSTAYED HIS WELCOME. WE'LL SEND HIM BACK SO HE CAN TELL HIS CENTRAL CONTROL WAR STORIES.JT

JOE,YOU ARE A COMPLETE DORK THAT IS UNABLE TO WORK WELL WITH A TEAM BECAUSE YOU ONLY THINK OF YOURSELF. SAFETY IS ONLY POSSIBLE WHEN EVERYONE COMPLETE HIS OWN TASK AND PUTS THE SAFETY OF THE TEAM FIRST AND ONE'S OWN EGO LAST. OFFICERS BE SAFE OUT THERE AND NEVERMIND THE STROKE ON SWAT THAT HAS OVERSTAYED HIS WELCOME. WE'LL SEND HIM BACK SO HE CAN TELL HIS CENTRAL CONTROL WAR STORIES.JT

10/28/2008 08:21:00 PM

I think I can figure out who JOE is, and in my view, he's a standup guy, but who is JT? I took a peek at the unit roster and couldnt find those initials anywere. Sounds like a hater. Congradulations, Joe, you got your first Hater.

By the way, someone posted that SWAT gets more pay, which is untrue. They all make patrolmens pay. always have, probably always will.