Millions of dogs and cats are at risk of avoidable death from an increase in unproven anti-vaccination “remedies” being sold online, the RSPCA has warned.

Amazon this week agreed to remove advertisements for products made from the diseased flesh of dead animals after a Sunday Telegraph investigation revealed misleading boasts claiming the “homeopathic nosodes” provide immunity from fatal conditions.

Last night the RSPCA said the rise in online marketing of “anti-vax” materials risked “horrific suffering” among pets whose owners reject conventional jabs.

It came as new research by the charity PDSA found that in 2017 25 per cent of dogs - around 2.3 million - had not undergone a primary vaccination course, more than double the proportion of 12 per cent the previous year.

A similar increase was recorded in cats, with 35 per cent - approximately 3.6 million - unvaccinated in 2017, compared to 18 per cent in 2016, while in rabbits the proportion of unvaccinated animals rose from 37 per cent to 50 per cent.

I have to say here I agree with didge....much of vegan thinking is based on a mawkish sentimentality, rather than "care as a duty " towards animals

care does NOT mean "awww dont kill the fluffy bunny for dinner" it means 1) kill it quick and humanely and 2) dont kill so many of them that you wipe them out.

It means kill only so many of a vermin species as is absolutely necessary to protect human and ecological health and NO MORE than that.

It means kill only the necessary few in a cull such as to maintain a healthy flock/herd etc.....

where farming is concerned 99.9% of veggies havnt a clue about the pros and cons of meat vs veggie foods or the effect on land use transport and so on.....they talk about the carbon footprint of meat farming then rely entirely on veggie stuff imported from the ends of the earth with a food value to weight ration of nex6t to nothing compared to meat, totally oblivious to the carbon footprint og THAT.

_________________If at any time in 2018 I have annoyed you, pissed you off or said the wrong thing....Suck it up snowflake, cause 2019 AINT gonna be any different

Patience my Ass......I' m gonna KILLsomething

[b].(It's hard to remember that the task is to drain the swamp, when you are up to your arse in alligators)

So nearly 5 million Jains and how many million Hindus are mawkishly sentimental? That is not to mention a few million others.I don't eat meat because :A.I don't like the textureB. I find it hard to digest C. I could not kill the required animal, so I don't believe I can eat of it.D. Vegetarianism controls weight better for many people.

Vintage wrote:So nearly 5 million Jains and how many million Hindus are mawkishly sentimental? That is not to mention a few million others.I don't eat meat because :A.I don't like the textureB. I find it hard to digest C. I could not kill the required animal, so I don't believe I can eat of it.D. Vegetarianism controls weight better for many people.

1) Yes jains are, when many animals kill other animals in order to eat and survive.

a) No problem

b) No problem

c) Some people cannot, but fail to see, they often do kill life daily, when they tread on insects for example

d) Does it? Based on what evidence? I bet many of those vegitarians, still it meat in the form of fish.

Vintage wrote:So nearly 5 million Jains and how many million Hindus are mawkishly sentimental? That is not to mention a few million others.I don't eat meat because :A.I don't like the textureB. I find it hard to digest C. I could not kill the required animal, so I don't believe I can eat of it.D. Vegetarianism controls weight better for many people.

1) Yes jains are, when many animals kill other animals in order to eat and survive.

a) No problem

b) No problem

c) Some people cannot, but fail to see, they often do kill life daily, when they tread on insects for example

d) Does it? Based on what evidence? I bet many of those vegitarians, still it meat in the form of fish.

moreover those jains and hindus are religiously motivated...which is possibly worse than mere "mawkish sentimentality"

_________________If at any time in 2018 I have annoyed you, pissed you off or said the wrong thing....Suck it up snowflake, cause 2019 AINT gonna be any different

Patience my Ass......I' m gonna KILLsomething

[b].(It's hard to remember that the task is to drain the swamp, when you are up to your arse in alligators)

Vintage wrote:So nearly 5 million Jains and how many million Hindus are mawkishly sentimental? That is not to mention a few million others.I don't eat meat because :A.I don't like the textureB. I find it hard to digest C. I could not kill the required animal, so I don't believe I can eat of it.D. Vegetarianism controls weight better for many people.

1) Yes jains are, when many animals kill other animals in order to eat and survive.

a) No problem

b) No problem

c) Some people cannot, but fail to see, they often do kill life daily, when they tread on insects for example

d) Does it? Based on what evidence? I bet many of those vegitarians, still it meat in the form of fish.

eddie wrote:You can’t “care” about animals and eat them at the same time....That doesn’t make sense.

every Decent farmer in the world disagrees with that statement.

It could be said Vegans Don't REALLY care, You Don't care about something you remove yourself from, they do nothing towards improving living standards for Domestic Animals.

Plus NEVER let vegans anywhere near any AI learning about how to 'care' for things, Vegans are running a campaign to stop cows suffering by making cows extinct. which is right I guess, it'll end Animals suffering if there are No Animals, which is the end state of the Vegan Campaign.

_________________My job is to travel the world delivering Chaos and Candy.

We don't know the Questions... does that means we cannot seek the Answers?

In addition, the absence of animal manures for fertiser and soil conditioning would more than halve crop production -- negating their claimed "benefits" from removing grazing animals..

Sad fact : the "vegan" plans for a livestock-free food production system will only feed around 1.5 -->> 2 billion people. So, to reach their stated goals, "vegans" would have to cull around 75% to 80% of humanity !!!

_________________It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see.Our life is frittered away by details. Simplify, simplify.The mass of men lead lives of quite desperation.Henry David Thoreau

The problem as I see it is that although many people do take their animals welfare seriously, so many do not, possibly the majority. Whether through culture or plain ignorance the plight of animals everywhere is awful. Conditions they are kept in, the method of slaughter, can be horrifying.