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Gizmo, a 17.6-pound Pekingese-dachshund mix, was shot Wednesday by Deputy Barbara Siau, a nine-year veteran who works in the Child Support Enforcement division, said Debbie Tanna, spokeswoman for the Sheriff’s Office . . .

Siau was looking for Anderson’s brother when she came to the home on the 5600 block of Annadale Drive in the Colonial Heights neighborhood, Anderson said.

When she went outside to speak with Siau, Anderson said Gizmo followed her.

The dog has no history of biting, Anderson said, but Gizmo began running toward the deputy and barking.

Anderson said she told the deputy the dog would not bite.

Siau kicked Gizmo in the head, Anderson said, which antagonized the dog. “I was in the process of getting him,” Anderson said, “if she would have given me 10 seconds.”

Anderson said she heard the shot.

“There was no warning whatsoever,” she said. “I heard a ‘pop,’ and when I looked up, I said, ‘You shot my dog.’ ” Gizmo still was moving, Anderson said, but fell on the ground.

“It didn’t really dawn on me until I walked over to him and saw blood coming out of his head,” Anderson said.

56 Responses to “Puppycide”

The only thing that will stop them is vigilante action against the ones who do this — burning their houses down, etc. Something that they must be worried about since in most places they will go out of their way to hide the indentities of these cowards.

At least they let her have the dog’s body to bury it ; here (Lubbock, TX) after the cops shoot your dog they will confiscate it (steal it) and then take it to be dumped in the landfill (happened to one of my neighbors last summer).

Come on now, we’re talking about a Pekingese-dachshund mix, surely a vicious animal if ever there was one. Except for being unable to bite anything higher than the ankle of an adult human being, that is.

Seriously, how does this shit even happen? I mean, how can anyone possibly justify seeing a 17 pound yapping miniature hot-dog as a threat? That’s a mighty hard sell, even to another LEO, or so I’d like to believe.

In a case like this, it would be easy to make a case for self-defense if someone had put a bullet in this cop’s empty head. Clearly, there is no threat present, and she pulls out a gun, starts shooting, and the first bullet hits a pocket-sized dog. It would be completely reasonable for someone to drop her right then and there to assure that there would be no more bullets fired recklessly.

It would still be tragic, not because a cop was shot, but because a person was shot. And it’s also likely that, justified though it would be, the shooter would be put through hell. But it would also probably be a long time before another harmless pet got shot in that town.

“In a case like this, it would be easy to make a case for self-defense if someone had put a bullet in this cop’s empty head.”

It didn’t work out so well for the guy who shot the cop in PA last summer defending his dogs, I think he was just found guilty of murder (I think he should have gotten off on his temporary insanity plea). It’s just a matter of time though before it happens again, somebody who is carrying concealed is going to have this happen and is going to lose it and shoot back.

Then we will get to hear more whining about the war on our hero cops, etc. If cops weren’t so stupidly aggressive their jobs wouldn’t be dangerous at all.

I think that _that_ is exactly what it will take for the cop-shoots-dog fad to die down.

Someone’s going to have to go apeshit on a cop for shooting their dog in their home in front of their children. There will probably be more shots, more blood, and more dead. But I just don’t see it stopping any other way.

As bad as this is — and it’s awful — I know that if I ever see a cop through my front door window, I will absolutely put my dogs up, or otherwise have them under solid, physical control, before opening the door. I’ve seen enough stories of dogs surprising their owners on sight of a uniform, cop, UPS, meter-reader, whatever, that I would never, if at all possible, allow my dogs to be unrestrained.

No, this is not blaming the victim. This is me protecting my animals from their own instinct to protect me and my family. Come on, people, they’re dogs. They don’t know any better.

And cops do get attacked by dogs. They have good reason to be cautious. They don’t know your dogs.

And I’ve seen far, far, far too many dogs running down the street, happily chasing a cat or whatever, with a shrilly ineffectual owner shouting after them.

When the cops come, put the dogs up, or on a leash, or at least grab the collar and MAKE IT STICK. Show absolute positive control over the dog. If the cops refuse to give you a chance; if they break the door down; if, over your protests, they go into the place where the dogs are, and then shoot the dogs out of hand; if they shoot a helpless dog in a cage or on a tether, fine, go on the warpath.

But do not expect cops to be tolerant of a dog running towards them, no matter how friendly you think the dog is.

perlhaqr: After I posted I thought about it some more and, sadly, really think you’re right.

DJ: Do you tie up your dog when the mail carrier comes by? How about the meter reader? Now, I’m certain that there absolutely must’ve been a situation where a dog attacked one of those groups and, yet, there are no “Mailman shoots, kills dog while delivering package.”

So, while I do appreciate your desire to protect your family (and we count our pets as part of our family), I think that by now cops have had enough time to come up with a new policy if they’d cared to. They don’t. I’m not sure it’s boot-licking but I cannot agree less with you that the honus of providing for the safety, when police – you know, the “Protect and Serve” guys – show up should be on the homeowner.

DJ, not trying to pick on you specifically, but this illustrates an absurd point that LEO seem to get behind as a rational for shooting pets: the unknown. Frankly that is two tons of bullshit. If that is the position you and they are willing to take please provide evidence of the widespread ability of dogs to be able to dispatch the life of a person who is armed and presumably well trained in firearms use in less time than they can retaliate. If this only happened in cases of packs of wild dogs or massive snarling cane corso’s maybe we could at least understand the lack of discretion. This, however, is not the case. Dog’s without a doubt can be dangerous, but for the vast majority of breeds, and indeed even large ill tempered ones, not so much as to believe that each and every one is an imminent threat to the life of a person wielding a gun.

Gee, the Police Officer kicked the dog in the head. The dog probably growled and bared its teeth. The dog is going to act aggressive towards a physical threat. This Officer Siau is obviously not intelligent enough to be trusted to be a cop. Its pretty basic animal behavior 101 that physically hurting an animal will make them aggressive.

I wonder how many LEOs would actually be able to pass the test to get concealed carry? My guess is not many.

In fact, yes, we put our dogs up when anybody comes to the door. We had to call for EMTs a few months ago, and damn right by the time the ‘bolance arrived, the dogs were in their cage in the back yard, because the EMTs were going to go places and do things that any self-respecting dog would regard as threatening to a family member.

I’m saying what to do if you don’t want your dogs shot. I’m saying many accounts I’ve read, and a great deal of my own personal experience, indicates that many, many dog owners are completely clueless to the fact that they are living with somewhat civilized wolves, very often with minimal training. I’m saying have some sense. I’m saying take some personal responsibility.

And I am not excusing the cops. Please read my post again, where I list many circumstances where what the cops do is absolutely inexcusable. No, that list is not exhaustive. I am personally convinced that very often, especially in raid situations, they do that sort of thing routinely just to intimidate and dominate.

(On the side, no, I would not invite the cops in if I had not called them. I would step outside and ask their business. And the dogs would be at least in a bedroom. My gods, people, I do that for UPS. )

Suppose you know a cop that lives down the street from you. Suppose you decide to stop by to ask him about something. Suppose that, when you do, his dog runs towards you, barking. Suppose you react as cops do- you kill the dog.

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
— Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn. That’s what will stop them..

“”He did not want to kill that dog,” said Pat Birmingham, Nagle’s attorney. “He was terrified of that dog.” Nagle tried to deal with the problem but got no help from the dog’s owner or authorities, Birmingham said. Circuit Judge Susie L. Norby had no sympathy for Nagle and sentenced him to 30 days in jail and two years supervised probation for the misdemeanors. Prosecutor Matt Semritc had asked for 20 days in jail and a year of bench probation.

“I’m shocked,” Norby said. “No one goes out with a full clip (in a gun) to garden unless they intend to use it.”

Rapidly firing bullets in a residential neighborhood where children are play is outrageous, Norby said.

“What you did on this day would shock the consciousness” of any community, she said. “It makes me question your mental health.” ”

Do you think a cop would be fined/fired let alone prosecuted if they shot a dog near some kids? Oh, but they’re trained to be safe with guns… This Barbie doll in a pig uniform can’t even just kick the little mutt in the head.

Mark and Cindy Boling want answers after their dog “Lily Girl” was shot by a Fort Worth Police Officer over the weekend.

A Fort Worth couple wants a police officer punished for shooting their dog.

On Saturday, dispatchers sent the officer to the 4900 block of Norma Street to investigate copper thefts. But an officer showed up at Mark and Cindy Boling’s house at the 4700 block of Norma Street as they unloaded groceries outside their home.

The couple said the officer shot the dog when it came out of the garage. The officer said it lunged at him. The couple said the animal was just being friendly.

#30 Belle Waring – If by “worse” you mean the smallest in size, then this dog, the Chihuhuas, and Dashunds are the worst I have seen, in that regard. But personally I feel that Rosie the Newfoundland who was shot and killed by a Des Moines, Washington police officer is the worst. Despite the interim police chief stating it was not a big game hunt, there are those (myself being one of them) that disagree. So far (thank God) in none of these other dog killings do police arrive and within minutes laugh about the possibility of shooting the dog in his own yard. And I have yet to hear of another dog being tased and running from his/her property and then hearing one of the police officers (after whistling as if to get the dog to come back) comment about how “he doesn’t want to play anymore”. And if there is audio of other police officers shouting “Nice!!!!! Dropped him right there” after a fellow officer has just shot a dog who ( by his own description) was hiding in the blackberry bushes, I have sure not heard it.

If these pussyassed mother f#%kers we currently call LEOs do not have the ability or common sense to deal with small canines without resorting to gun fire then they should find a new line of work. There was a time in America if an officer discharged their weapon on duty it would take two weeks to fill out the paper work. In todays world weapons are discharged rountinely near innocent adults and small children,this level of “professionalism”can no longer be tolerated. The gross disregard for PUBLIC safety and comtempt for life is NOT in the public’s interests. Will it require the public to begin treating LEOs in the manner more befitting the regard shown us to change their behavior? Let us hope that that situation can be avoided,as it could get very messy for all sides. If as an LEO you feel your job is so dangerous that you believe you are warranted to shoot first and ask questions later. You need the find different employment.

Peel’s #7 (condensed): “The police are the people and the people are the police, the police being only citizens who are paid to attend full time to duties incumbent on every citizen.”

Despite the risks, and I grant they are rapidly getting more severe, I still consider it my duty to, yes, “assist the police with their inquiries”, exercising all due caution and informed good sense. I have a duty to report crimes, real crimes, the kind that see thugs hurt innocent people. Remember those? Not all crimes are victimless. I will of course be especially willing to report crimes against me and mine.

Go ahead, isolate yourself. Antagonize people who do in fact put themselves in harm’s way to help people like you. Slam the door in their faces, or just refuse to answer the knock. Don’t report thefts, or even assaults. Hide in your fortress. Harden their suspicions. Reinforce their hostility.

I’m sure the cops will still respond cheerfully when you call demanding their help because some burglar killed your dog before ransacking your home, and you pay their salaries, dammit!

I know there’s bad cops out there, just like cops know there are bad citizens out there.

I also know there are good cops out there, I’ve met them, and not always on friendly terms. Courtesy and respect go a long, long way.

“Be polite. Be professional. Have a plan to kill everyone you meet.” That sounds like a good plan to me.

But cowering alone, isolated, blustering at every threat, real or imagined?

And that, in a nutshell, is what’s wrong with your argument. You’ve seem to be able to tell the difference b/w the good guys and the bad guys, apparently due to nothing other than who has a badge and who doesn’t.

YOU created this good/bad divide for yourself. It’s clear that most of the rest of us don’t feel as strongly about the goodnees of the men in blue just by virtue of the fact that they’re men in blue. And, if you’re reading this site with any regularity (which I don’t think is the case), you’d realize the men in blue are are NOT THE GOOD GUYS. There just guys, mostly following orders.

It’s the Bad Guys orders to their victims: “Snitches get stitches”. Guess whose side you seem to be on?

Try not to simplify the responses of a group of people developed to manage decades of oppression at the hands of the police/state. Poor and minority groups developed the “snitches get stitches” and “DON’T talk to police” (and others) for good reasons. For one thing, cops would work to get false confessions via a “prisoner’s dilemma” from completely innocent people. To reduce it to “orders from the bad guys” is ignorant. Community activists have had to resort to not talking to the police because the police ARE THE BAD GUYS! What else would you call a gang bent on shooting first, protecting their own at all costs, and locking up anyone they can in order to close a case?

The rest of your post is just badge-licking long dismissed on this board.

Peel’s #7 (condensed): “The police are the people and the people are the police, the police being only citizens who are paid to attend full time to duties incumbent on every citizen.”

You believe this shit? Seriously? Police are not “citizens” they are LEOs. Citizens are not LEOs. It is this dichotomy that is the fundamental problem with police. They see themselves as a group apart….even better, superior. That is why they have the badge, the gun, and considerably more power than a mere citizen has.

Police are the enemy. Not only because they are bully boys of the elite, but because they would do it for free. Are there exceptions? I suppose but the institution is designed to purge or nullify the good intentions of those few who sneak by. Get that through your head and you’ll be one step closer to not being a Hippie,Liberal or boot polishing authoritarian.

Really, any stats on injured officers from dog bites? If all the bites are from “pit bulls” we know the fix is in.
Aren’t all dogs shot by police pit bulls, or pit bull mixes, or looked like a pit bull, or might have been a pit bull, or acted like a pit bull? All those injured pool men, meter readers, gardeners, not to mention mailmen, can testify as to the danger and the shame that they couldn’t shoot those pit bulls while fearing for their safety.