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Re: The Ultimate Tag-Team Battle

Kabuto is still very susceptable to being oneshotted by an Amaterasu. Despite Madara's overall abilities, he will succumb to the numbers of Sasuke, Tobi, and jinchurikis.

Sasuke and Tobi will fall to Naruto. Naruto has a will of fire epiphany about never giving up and turns on Kyuubi god mode, in which he punt Bijuu bombs, eat Amaterasu, and shit kamehamehas. Super Naruto is seriously the most overpowered thing Kishi has ever created. He'll win this even if all the other parties ganged up on him.

Wrong, Minato's useful as a defense. He can help Itachi avoid attacks and both can come up with plans. I think only Minato has the ability to take out Tobi, unless any enemy of Tobi learns space/time ninjutsu.

Re: The Ultimate Tag-Team Battle

The main reason why Minato was bale to hit Tobi was because he surprised him. The Rin'negan won't help Tobi if he doesn't anticipate or know Minato hitting him, or anyone for that matter.

I think Minato's chance to harm Tobi lies in his first Hiraishin v2. Tobi won't anticipate it and can't get defense up in time. If Minato tries again, though, then Tobi will be prepared better by activating Hungry Ghost's ability or going intangible.

I honestly dunno who'd win. Itachi and Minato were my first choice, but out of bias. Then Naruto and Gaara due to Gaara's sand.

But Kabuto and Madara are probably superior. Madara can use the Rin'negan, and Kabuto has sage abilities making it hard to hit him.

Re: The Ultimate Tag-Team Battle

@M3J

Now Tobi with a rinnegan has connected vision with diferent crep he has on the battlefield so he has no blind spot. Minato teleporting on his back would be noticed and Tobi just activates intangibility. Its like Minato trying to teleport right in front of Tobi and hoping he could do that. Minato would first need to go trough multiple Jin's and his ability to teleport like that would be revealed WAY before he get's to Tobi. I am not even sure that Itachi and Sasuke can stop all those jins (Tobi has his realms here).

Minato really has no shoot at this, we also have Sasuke to Amaterasu/genjutsu him.

Re: The Ultimate Tag-Team Battle

Originally Posted by M3J

Wrong, Minato's useful as a defense. He can help Itachi avoid attacks and both can come up with plans. I think only Minato has the ability to take out Tobi, unless any enemy of Tobi learns space/time ninjutsu.

Lol... Say somebody shoots a Bijuu bomb at them right off the bat. What's Minato going to warp to? It can destroy a Mountain! So no, unless Minato as a tag set up far away, he is going to be blown up along with w/e tag he has on the battlefield. If anything, Itachi will have to save him with Susanoo and its shield. At least that has a chance of surviving the blast.

@ninjabot,

Actually, I totally forgot Tobi can hold people in his pocket dimension and re-summon them. Then yes, his team is likely the victor since they can avoid Naruto's god mode rampage.

Re: The Ultimate Tag-Team Battle

Originally Posted by chilibun

Lol... Say somebody shoots a Bijuu bomb at them right off the bat. What's Minato going to warp to? It can destroy a Mountain! So no, unless Minato as a tag set up far away, he is going to be blown up along with w/e tag he has on the battlefield. If anything, Itachi will have to save him with Susanoo and its shield. At least that has a chance of surviving the blast.

@ninjabot,

Actually, I totally forgot Tobi can hold people in his pocket dimension and re-summon them. Then yes, his team is likely the victor since they can avoid Naruto's god mode rampage.

He does not need to do that. He can turn other people intangible to. He just goes close to X and then both of them are intangible for 5 mins.

Re: The Ultimate Tag-Team Battle

Originally Posted by xXan

He does not need to do that. He can turn other people intangible to. He just goes close to X and then both of them are intangible for 5 mins.

I don't know if that works. I know his clothes, weapons, etc. becomes intangible but I'm going to have to see him actually making something with significant mass intangible before I give him that ability.

Re: The Ultimate Tag-Team Battle

Originally Posted by chilibun

I don't know if that works. I know his clothes, weapons, etc. becomes intangible but I'm going to have to see him actually making something with significant mass intangible before I give him that ability.

Re: The Ultimate Tag-Team Battle

Originally Posted by xXan

@M3J

Now Tobi with a rinnegan has connected vision with diferent crep he has on the battlefield so he has no blind spot. Minato teleporting on his back would be noticed and Tobi just activates intangibility. Its like Minato trying to teleport right in front of Tobi and hoping he could do that. Minato would first need to go trough multiple Jin's and his ability to teleport like that would be revealed WAY before he get's to Tobi. I am not even sure that Itachi and Sasuke can stop all those jins (Tobi has his realms here).

Minato really has no shoot at this, we also have Sasuke to Amaterasu/genjutsu him.

Once again, shared eyesight isn't gonna help if he can't react in time. It's similar to Sasuke vs. Lee, he couldn't see what Lee was doing so he couldn't react in time. Plus, Tobi will be busy with other enemies as well, which would give Minato and Itachi opportunities.

Originally Posted by chilibun

Lol... Say somebody shoots a Bijuu bomb at them right off the bat. What's Minato going to warp to? It can destroy a Mountain! So no, unless Minato as a tag set up far away, he is going to be blown up along with w/e tag he has on the battlefield. If anything, Itachi will have to save him with Susanoo and its shield. At least that has a chance of surviving the blast.

@ninjabot,

Actually, I totally forgot Tobi can hold people in his pocket dimension and re-summon them. Then yes, his team is likely the victor since they can avoid Naruto's god mode rampage.

Okay, but they probably won't start off with bijuu bomb that early. Not only is it dangerous but it'd leave them open, though the chakra shroud should be a good defense.

Re: The Ultimate Tag-Team Battle

@M3J

Huh? Tobi is MORE then able to react to that IF he can see it. Why do you think Minato teleports in people's blind spot? Because they CAN react. We have Tobi, Bee, Raikage, that fodder from Kakashi gaiden.... Tobi would have NO problem reacting to that and instantly activating intangibiliy.

Re: The Ultimate Tag-Team Battle

He can't react instantly. If I recall, we saw Minato disappearing, Tobi being "??!", and then Minato whacking him with rasengan. Just because one can see it doesn't mean one can react in time, especially if their reflexes aren't that good. Similar to Ghost Realm saving Animal Realm from Naruto's FRS. They saw it, but either one wasn't able to react in time or didn't bother to.

Re: The Ultimate Tag-Team Battle

@M3J

No frontal attacked work on Tobi, on the contrary Minato was the 1 getting tagged. Tobi would have NO reason to even turn intangibility off ... Tobi had the ?!?! as he had no idea what happened and where is Minato.
Minato is not that fast that people can counter a Rasengan swing, especialy 1 like Tobi that only needs to activate intangibility.

Re: The Ultimate Tag-Team Battle

Originally Posted by M3J

Okay, but they probably won't start off with bijuu bomb that early. Not only is it dangerous but it'd leave them open, though the chakra shroud should be a good defense.

Okay, then let say Sasuke Amaterasus him right off the bat. What is he going to warp to with no seals in play? Too soon for that too?! Okay, everybody waits around for Minato to place his seals. 3 of his opponents have the sharingan, capable of locating each tag by seeing its chakra. They can all systematically destroy the tags and then Bijuu bomb or Amaterasu his face. Gaara can also summon a sand avalache and completely sink the battlefield along with the tags. Okay, give Minato even more of a handicap and just let him be. Sasuke and Madara's Susanoo and Naruto's chakra cloak makes them nearly impervious to Minato's rasengan. Kabuto has fast regeneration and can liquefy his body. Gaara can completely surround himself in sand. Tobi can become intangible. Even if they let him live and do w/e he wants, Minato still has little to offer.

Re: The Ultimate Tag-Team Battle

Originally Posted by xXan

@M3J

No frontal attacked work on Tobi, on the contrary Minato was the 1 getting tagged. Tobi would have NO reason to even turn intangibility off ... Tobi had the ?!?! as he had no idea what happened and where is Minato.
Minato is not that fast that people can counter a Rasengan swing, especialy 1 like Tobi that only needs to activate intangibility.

Yes he would, since by himself he can't land hits. His Paths should be taken out by Gaara, Naruto, Itachi, and others by then. ANd intangibility doesn't last, it has a time limit.

Exactly. He had no time to react because he didn't know where Minato was. Why would he be able to react to Minato's reflexive stab to the head, but not rasengan?

Originally Posted by chilibun

Okay, then let say Sasuke Amaterasus him right off the bat. What is he going to warp to with no seals in play? Too soon for that too?! Okay, everybody waits around for Minato to place his seals. 3 of his opponents have the sharingan, capable of locating each tag by seeing its chakra. They can all systematically destroy the tags and then Bijuu bomb or Amaterasu his face. Gaara can also summon a sand avalache and completely sink the battlefield along with the tags. Okay, give Minato even more of a handicap and just let him be. Sasuke and Madara's Susanoo and Naruto's chakra cloak makes them nearly impervious to Minato's rasengan. Kabuto has fast regeneration and can liquefy his body. Gaara can completely surround himself in sand. Tobi can become intangible. Even if they let him live and do w/e he wants, Minato has little power to even do anything.

Minato can do a mass genjutsu and pwn them all. He's Minato, we're allowed to give him powers since he's unknown.

My point was that Minato's not as useless as you make him out to be, not that he'd win or dominate. I don't see him having a chance due to Madara, Kabuto, and Tobi.