The lawsuit is separate from the recently decided patent infringement battles.

On Friday, Apple expanded a patent infringement lawsuit against Samsung, including the Galaxy Note, the Galaxy S III, and the Galaxy note 10.1 tablet to a list of other devices it sought an injunction against on Monday. Apple claims in the lawsuit that 21 of Samsung's devices infringed against Apple's patents and should be banned from sale in the US.

Last week, Apple won an important court victory against Samsung when a jury found that Samsung had caused just over $1 billion in damages to Apple for patent infringement. Samsung will have to pay Apple that fee, and the decision may also inform this second lawsuit, which isn't expected to go to trial until next year.

As Ars wrote earlier this week, Apple originally sought to ban only 8 of Samsung's devices—including the Galaxy S2 Skyrocket and the Droid Charge—many of which were older models that had been made obsolete by newer models already, or weren't even available any longer in the US. But the healthy sales enjoyed by the Galaxy Note and Galaxy S III change the stakes of the coming court battle. If Apple is granted injunctions against these two additional products, Samsung could be forced to lose a great chunk of its US sales.

Dammit, Apple, you can compete (and you obviously have) on your own merits. All that these shenanigans show is that you're scared of any type of competition in the mobile space.

Why? I'm scratching my head trying to figure out where your endgame is in all this litigation.

You've got more money than God, you have a very strong foothold in the market, and you've got the mindshare.

WTF?

I know that the late Steve wanted to go thermonuclear on Android, but at this point it just appears to be petty and vindictive ( which, now that I think about it, coincides with the whole WMD approach).

Just stop with this nonsense. It makes you look weak, which I would think would the the absolute antithesis of what Jobs wanted. You've got great products and a loyal following. Quit fucking with the marginals and the also-rans.

I don't know if this can be attributed to Cook, but if it is, I would say step aside and let Apple be fucking Apple.

There couldn't possibly be grounds on the basis of the hardware. There's no confusing them for Apples even in a poor-quality web image. The SIII isn't even a rectangle, and the 10.1 has a bezel that's further from Apple's than almost any other tablet out there. If it's the icon thing it manages to stick to, time for Samsung to just suck it up and square those corners or something. It's clearly not worth the trouble, though I don't like any move that seems to concede to Apple ownership of rounded rectangles. That bullshit pisses me right off.

Apple, I bought my SII because it was different than your tiny, locked down fisher price toy. I want a Note 2 for the same reason. GTFO and go innovate. Maybe if you were capable of innovation anymore you could tolerate competition instead of having to try desperately to stifle it using lawsuits.

I don’t give a flying horse cock if Sammy’s phones look a little bit like yours. They are nothing like yours, which is really the whole selling point. If you think that your ability to dig up a couple of people so damaged they should be on a telethon somewhere drooling and asking for money to say “I might have confused these phones” is a good reason to remove choice from the rest of us, that’s only more incentive to never buy your tat in the future.

If I am unable to buy a Note 2 by the end of the year because of this ridiculousness, I am going to be exceptionally upset. Fuck off, fruitco.[/nerdrage]

Funny thing before Apple started this nonsense, I was an iPhone 4 user, however after everyone started talking about Samsung and the devices that Apple wanted to ban, I started to put more attention to the Android ecosystem, so one day I decided to replace my old iPhone 4 with a pretty kick ass Samsung Galaxy S3.

Well the Nexus is on there so I guess Google and Apple talks have failed...

The issue with this game IMO is that Apple's entire company is 100% dependent on their mobile devices.... If Google takes them to term and damages the iproduct line that would be a major issue for Apple and their stock - make no question that these lawsuits will in the end destroy a company... and change the technology field forever.

Google can live without android, but the same can not be said about apple (regarding iDevices). This proxy war has now gone world war...

I hope all these companies Apple is pissing off band together and file some kind of anti-trust suit, and win. Apple is basically turning into the cartoonishly evil monopoly everyone feared Microsoft would become back in the 90s.

I hope all these companies Apple is pissing off band together and file some kind of anti-trust suit, and win. Apple is basically turning into the cartoonishly evil monopoly everyone feared Microsoft would become back in the 90s.

This is what happens when you run out of ideas and the competition begins to smoke you across the board.I can't wait, I mean I really, really, really, really am looking forward to the day when someone brings this company of childish pretentious whiners to their knees. Hell, if they keep this up they might just do it to themselves, which would almost be more satisfying.

PS to my American friends, I'll gladly help you get a Note or S3 from up here in Canada. Fuck it, I'll even pay shipping just out spite for Apple *evil laugh*

Oh, please, by all means: remove items that millions of people wish to purchase from the market. Let Samsung use it as a cudgel against Apple, giving those customers a convenient villain. THAT is the point we get to restructure the nightmare of the patent system. It's not when someone loses a court case, or when innovators are forced out of even designing new tech. . . it's when Job Schmoe gets told "no, you're not allowed to do something," that's when all hell breaks loose.

People will put up with an amazing amount of crap until it results in being told "no" about something. Nothing springs the American people to action faster than being denied. And if all those folks waiting for their upgrade dates on their contracts to purchase an S3 aren't allowed, and Samsung takes the opportunity to blame Apple? I would not want to be Tim Cook when the shareholders come calling . . .

Well, they can certainly try, but I do not believe these phones in particular violate Apple's trade dress... and if they violate the bounce and the rubber-band patent, those are things that can be easily worked around, and Apple MAY prove Samsung owes them more damages with those phones, but an outright ban I think it's a bit of a stretch.

I do think that Samsung copied a lot of Apple's ideas and piggybacked on the marketing, but the newest models I believe are different enough to have their own value proposition.

This is what happens when you run out of ideas and the competition begins to smoke you across the board.

Exactly. The S3 is one of the most innovative phones to come out in years. It's also selling really well. A significant number of people wanted a phone with a big, easy to read screen, and Samsung gave them exactly what they wanted. And that terrifies Apple. They can't handle the idea of having real competition.

This is what happens when you run out of ideas and the competition begins to smoke you across the board.I can't wait, I mean I really, really, really, really am looking forward to the day when someone brings this company of childish pretentious whiners to their knees. Hell, if they keep this up they might just do it to themselves, which would almost be more satisfying.

PS to my American friends, I'll gladly help you get a Note or S3 from up here in Canada. Fuck it, I'll even pay shipping just out spite for Apple *evil laugh*

The trial isn't even slated until next year. All of those devices will be as insignificant as the devices Apple "won" against by the time this is over (should Apple win this time). Point blank: Apple looks more like a petulant child than they do with the last battle.

If they aren't careful, there could be some consumer backlash. I've already sworn away their devices due to this, and I used and liked the 4S and was planning to buy the 5 next month until all of these dick moves started coming about.

This is what happens when you run out of ideas and the competition begins to smoke you across the board.I can't wait, I mean I really, really, really, really am looking forward to the day when someone brings this company of childish pretentious whiners to their knees. Hell, if they keep this up they might just do it to themselves, which would almost be more satisfying.

PS to my American friends, I'll gladly help you get a Note or S3 from up here in Canada. Fuck it, I'll even pay shipping just out spite for Apple *evil laugh*

I might take you up on that. Seriously.

Anytime!

Jackattak there is bang on though... probably will be an S4 by the time any of this even came to fruition

Something tells me this circus of crap started with a meeting where some greedy, unscrupulous lawyers convinced an ignorant executive inside Apple that they had a "sure bet" to win this case and got green-lighted, and now they got another green light after getting 1bn.

This is all about lawyers pushing their customers over the board just for profit.

Whoever is in charge of these things at Apple, fire those blood-suckers now!

man!... this shows real desperation on Apple's part. Will no longer recommend their products to anyone. God... I didn't know they sucked this bad. Horribly anti-competitive they are. They are trying to use the legal system to remove competing products from the marketplace. Fuck Apple. No more recommendations from me. They can go pound sand, I'm done.

This is what happens when you run out of ideas and the competition begins to smoke you across the board.I can't wait, I mean I really, really, really, really am looking forward to the day when someone brings this company of childish pretentious whiners to their knees. Hell, if they keep this up they might just do it to themselves, which would almost be more satisfying.

I agree. Let's hope Samsung come to the same conclusion and start to produce their own distinct products instead of just copying others (not just Apple).

The S3 isn't an iPhone copy. It's the POLAR OPPOSITE of the iPhone in almost every regard. It has a huge screen, is razor thin, is lightweight, is oval shaped, and is made out of completely different materials.

This is what happens when you run out of ideas and the competition begins to smoke you across the board.I can't wait, I mean I really, really, really, really am looking forward to the day when someone brings this company of childish pretentious whiners to their knees. Hell, if they keep this up they might just do it to themselves, which would almost be more satisfying.

I agree. Let's hope Samsung come to the same conclusion and start to produce their own distinct products instead of just copying others (not just Apple).

The S3 isn't an iPhone copy. It's the POLAR OPPOSITE of the iPhone in almost every regard. It has a huge screen, is razor thin, is lightweight, is oval shaped, and is made out of completely different materials.

Even when Samsung innovates, they still get sued.

I removed my post due to it not reading right. However, from reading elsewhere my understanding is that this suit doesn't concern the look of the hardware, but the software. And (again, from what I read elsewhere) if they rolled out Jellybean(?) it would remove the infringing bits, mostly.

I actually own and still use one of the original offending devices (Galaxy Vibrant) More closely related to the original i9000 released internationally. I note this because the i9000 was the first to have a single button on the bottom like the iPhone.. but was never included in the lawsuit because it was strictly an international product.. .and even if it wasn't .. the blatant similarity ends there.

There is no way that I could ever have confused the two phones in 2007 even at a cursory glance. To me, i still remember when the "Candy Bar" form factor was standard in touchscreen phones around 2005-2007 where everything was rectangular and pointy corners were a no-no.

Granted im a little more of a tech enthusiast than the average joe.. but the screen it was sporting was something amazing that apple didn't or wouldn't produce. What sold it for me was the capacitive 4in Super AMOLED Screen. It was crisp... no light bleeding...and the darkest black colors around... and i mean PITCH black. Other features included that awesome Hummingbird chipset at the time. I could play nearly any video or music format without having to convert files with a simple drag and drop file system (shudders remembering Ipod 3g experience). I might hand it to apple for making the capacitive screen popular and cheaper by demand... most phones used resistive tech because it was cheaper at the time.

For those few people who "confused" a Samsung product for Apple.. they probably would have been the same type of people to buy from a chinese website to get a very convincing knockoff which ran on antiquated java and looked a hell of a lot more similar in trade-dress than anything Samsung provided in history. Rounded grid buttons are nothing new and should be treated as such.

And no.. this is not Sour Grapes because i didn't decide to fork out an extra 200-300 (WITH CONTRACT) for that feel good bouncy feature in menus in an apple. Frankly the hardware was better.. and it kept getting better over the years. Buggy.. granted.. but i loved it anyway. I found more value in it.. that's all. And my next phone will be the Galaxy S3 because of that awesome Super AMOLED 4.8in size, super slim profile.. Bluetooth Sharing, and I CAN STILL CHANGE THE BATTERY. Now that's Awesome! Who cares if it's not "Retina" display.

And i'll note that most of the software violations are generally vague. Motorola mobile made some of these software innovations in some form or another long before Apple entered the game. It's likely if Samsung had worked with Google to oppose apple the wouldn't have had a strong case with the sheer number of patents combined. Frankly Samsung was sued over some of the key features in Android and should have been brought in to help defend it.

--------------------------------------------The four new patents Apple is leveraging against Samsung include the '647 "Data Detectors" patent, the '721 "Slide-to-unlock" property, the '172 "Word completion" invention and the '604 "Universal search" patent. The Cupertino tech giant successfully wielded the '721 "Data Detectors" patent to obtain an ITC sales ban against certain Android-based HTC handsets in December, however Google continued to implement the feature in its mobile operating system despite the suit's outcome.

While Apple won a temporary injunction against the Galaxy Nexus in June on potential infringement of the '604 "Unified search" patent, Samsung was granted a stay pending appeal and the unit remains on sale today.

After being handed a sweeping victory in the broader Apple v. Samsung trial, Apple is now seeking a permanent sales ban against eight infringing Samsung smartphones. The Korean company has vowed to fight the injunction with "all necessary measures."--------------------------------------------

So, if I understand that correctly these are all software issues, not hardware. The trade dress of the S3 isn't an issue.

Apple's slow ass cycle of control and refresh is biting them in the ass and competitors are making better products much faster and cheaper then them. They're desperately holding onto their old model. Unfortunately in the PC space people seem to still be fooled by this. Let's pay 50%++ more for an inferior or maybe in some areas slightly superior product for 2 months; incompatible with most software and non-upgradeable or harder to upgrade ...let's go Apple! The only thing they have to rely on is the ignorance of their customers, and that is ending with the evidently ever more present apparent awesomeness of their competitors. Apple always trying to be the "new boys' has become the "old boys", resistant to change and hanging on to their Victorian era ways. The cycle never really changes becuase human nature is omnipresent.

Apple's slow ass cycle of control is biting them in the ass and competitors are making better products much faster and cheaper then them. They're desperately holding onto their old model. Unfortunately in the PC space people seem to still be fooled by this. Let's pay 50%++ more for an inferior or maybe in some areas slightly superior product for 2 months; incompatible with most software and non-upgradeable or harder to upgrade ...let's go Apple! The only thing they have to rely on is the ignorance of their customers, and that is ending with the evidently ever more present obvious slog of apparent awesomeness of their competitors. Apple always trying to be the "new boys' has become the "old boys", resistant to change and hanging on to their Victorian era ways. The cycle never really changes becuase human nature is omnipresent.

You know, if you have to make stuff up to make your point, you might want to consider that you don't, in fact, have a point.

Yup. I hate Apple. I detest everything about this contemptible company and their stupid worshipers. Haters gonna hate. AMIRIGHT FANBOIZ? Don't worry though, my hatred is irrelevant. Apple will do just fine even if they do raise the ire of a few geeks. The general public obviously doesn't care about exploited Chinese workers or monopolistic business practices. That much is apparent from the Wintel days. Isn't life aboard the Axiom grand?

It's always interesting to me that people are all "S3 LOOKS NOTHING LIKE IPHONE WHY THEY SUE" and they don't bother to even look at the complaints. Since people are too lazy:Patent Number & Title5,946,647 (the “’647 Patent”) System and method for performing an action on a structure in computer-generated data6,847,959 (the “’959 Patent”)Universal interface for retrieval of information in a computer system8,046,721 (the “’721 Patent”)Unlocking a device by performing gestures on an unlock image8,074,172 (the “’172 Patent”)Method, system, and graphical user interface for providing word recommendations8,014,760 (the “’760 Patent”)Missed telephone call management for a portable multifunction device5,666,502 (the “’502 Patent”)Graphical user interface using historicallists with field classes7,761,414 (the “’414 Patent”)Asynchronous data synchronizationamongst devices8,086,604 (the “’604 Patent”)Universal interface for retrieval of information in a computer system

It appears that these patents are completely unrelated to the recently done trial. I don't know the merits of any, but at least try to be objective.