I have a Koga Miyata and it's the BEST bike for hilly urban transport with heavy grocery etc loads.

Nothing wrong with the bike, but if you have your stem/handlebars set up like that ....

Andrew

I do have the butterfly handle bars, albeit more horizontal, and that's part of what's great about the ride. Initially my reaction was like yours, but I now prefer them to any other handlle bars beacuse of the infinite hand positions. Only problem is I don't know how to attach a mirror without compromising the handle bar's functionality...

ILMB wrote:..Only problem is I don't know how to attach a mirror without compromising the handle bar's functionality...

munga wrote:uhh. the one on your helmet isn't enough?

ILMB wrote:Do you have a link? How does a helmet mirror work? Thanks

Perhaps I am overly cynical, but I thought munga was gently teasing you - eg bikesnob says "The helmet mirror is perhaps one of the dorkiest cycling accessories, second only to the reflective vest". As for a helmet mirror, would you preferor

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