WWI Digest 913
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: Hand Pump / Air pump
by KarrArt
2) Re: Hand Pump / Air pump
by "Patrick Gilmore"
3) Re: Hand Pump / Air pump
by Bill Bacon
4) Re: Paper model Zep
by "Gerald P. McOsker"
5) Re: Hand Pump / Air pump
by knut.erik.hagen@login.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen)
6) Re: Tiny monofilament line
by Carlos
7) Re: Zep paint
by rojo1@concentric.net
8) Re: book rescue
by
9) Re: Zep paint
by rojo1@concentric.net
10) RE: 1/48 ZEP
by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer)
11) Frank Luke's Eagle logo
by "Scott M. Head"
12) Beginning new project
by perrysm@juno.com
13) Re: Frank Luke's Eagle logo
by "Charles Duckworth"
14) Re: Beginning new project/ mail call
by Michelle and Rory Goodwin
15) Re: book rescue
by bucky@mail.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael)
16) Re: Frank Luke's Eagle logo
by "Fernando E. Lamas, M.D."
17) Re: Circus Colours and Aerodrome Modeller
by mbittner@juno.com
18) Re: A call out to Toko
by mbittner@juno.com
19) Re: Paper model Zep
by Matthew Zivich
20) Re: Circus Colours and Aerodrome Modeller
by Bob Pearson
21) Propagteam Lozenge decals
by Pedro Nuno Soares
22) Robert's Handley Page 0/400
by Pedro Nuno Soares
23) Re: letter to TOKO
by Pedro Nuno Soares
24) Re: Beginning new project/ mail call
by perrysm@juno.com
25) Seat for R. Godfrey
by perrysm@juno.com
26) Fly fishing tippet material for rigging
by "Fernando E. Lamas, M.D."
27) Re: 1/48 ZEP
by "Lee Mensinger"
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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 20:16:05 EST
From: KarrArt
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Hand Pump / Air pump
Message-ID: <85934a68.34f76557@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-02-27 19:52:38 EST, you write:
<< I've noticed a detail item in many WWI cockpit drawings is labeled as a
pump, hand pump or air pump.
>>
Some early airplanes had pressurised fuel systems and this "bicycle tire" pump
was used to pump a little pressure into the gas tank.
Robert
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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 20:15:11 -0500
From: "Patrick Gilmore"
To:
Subject: Re: Hand Pump / Air pump
Message-ID: <199802280117.UAA12506@sulaco.novagate.net>
> I've noticed a detail item in many WWI cockpit drawings is labeled as a
> pump, hand pump or air pump.
>
> Used for?
>
Not sure myself on this one but I have always assumed that it was to build
up pressure in the fuel feed system in non gravity fed petrol tanks.
Patrick Gilmore
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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 19:22:30 -0600
From: Bill Bacon
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Hand Pump / Air pump
Message-ID: <34F766D6.213AD5E6@netjava.net>
Steve,
It was used to pressurise the fuel tank.
Cheers,
Bill B.
perrysm@juno.com wrote:
> I've noticed a detail item in many WWI cockpit drawings is labeled as a
> pump, hand pump or air pump.
>
> Used for?
>
> thanks
>
> Steve Perry
> No war is "Great", but we all know which one had the Great airplanes!
>
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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 20:30:18 -0500
From: "Gerald P. McOsker"
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Paper model Zep
Message-ID:
>>
>Matt Z. sayeth-
There is a paper Zep. now available in model shops made by a German
>comp. I have a paper Taube in 1/48 made by the same comp. (The Zep. is
>small, perhaps a foot long.)
Verily- there are several paper Zeps but I believes they are the
Hindenburg/Graf ons- [maybe the Macon?] available from that paper model
place in Oregon or Washington or one of those distant provinces.
No WW-I Zepp yet- or maybe some gnome in Langenlonsheim is turning them
out and noone is telling us-??
Cheese-
Gerry
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 02:55:13 +0100 (MET)
From: knut.erik.hagen@login.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen)
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Hand Pump / Air pump
Message-ID: <199802280155.CAA06427@login.eunet.no>
>I've noticed a detail item in many WWI cockpit drawings is labeled as a
>pump, hand pump or air pump.
>
>Used for?
Most likely to pressurise the fuel tank before the motor driven or windmill
driven pump would function. Also as a backup in case the others failed.
Otherwise you would have to trust a gravity tank, which might be inconvenient
for an aircraft not flying straight and level all the time.
Eders
Knut Erik
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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 20:58:23 -0500
From: Carlos
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Tiny monofilament line
Message-ID: <34F76F3F.658A@erols.com>
Charles Duckworth wrote:
>
>
> BTW the line I use is made by Dai-Riki size 6X (.005") and a roll contains
> 30 meters of line - probably just enough for a Short 184 in 1/48th.
>
HA HA HA HA HA
- Carlos H.
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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 21:35:27 +0000
From: rojo1@concentric.net
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Zep paint
Message-ID: <199802280440.XAA12133@marconi.concentric.net>
I doubt venting could have been managed effectively given the
complexity of the structure inside and the long, narrow shape. The
porous-envelope explanation makes sense. Not that it was really
necessary. The hydrogen was only dangerous when mixed with oxygen in
the right proportions. A high concentration of hydrogen would
probably tend to smother flame. But, of course, hydrogen's reputation
was such that this consideration probably didn't count for much. The
nitrocellulose dope was probably a bigger risk (and there was a lot
of dope on a zeppelin),
> >Joey Valenciano writes:
> >
> >>>while a combination
> >>>of four shades of grey enamel for the "mottled" area on the
> >>>upper center portion of the envelope.
> >
> >>I've seen photos of zeps w/ this mottled area. Why did they have them?
>
> Bill Shatzer replies:
>
> >The best explaination I've seen of the "mottled area" is that
> >it was an untreated area of the envelope intended to allow any
> >leaking hydrogen gas to "bleed off" and thus not collect inside
> >the envelope. Any significant quantities of hydrogen collecting
> >inside the exterior envelope could, of course, have rather
> >disasterous results - thus, better to allow any leakage from
> >the gas bags to freely exit the envelope and not collect inside.
> >
> >Which makes sense to me but your mileage may differ.
> >
>
> It might make more sense to explain the "mottling" on the side of an
> airship as a function of multiple, disjunct applications of paint. Think
> about it, one zepplin presents a lot of acerage to cover with dope, paint
> etc. Not a one day job, perhaps not even a single paint batch job, then
> there is the possibility that some poor slob missed a spot, or two.
>
> Didn't zeppelin envelopes have vents built into them to relieve
> hydrogen build up ? This makes the explanation of unpainted covering to
> "vent" excess hydrogen a little suspect to me.
>
> My US$ 0.02 worth.
>
> Charles
>
> hartc@spot.colorado.edu
>
>
>
>
Rob
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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 21:45:48 +0000
From:
To: wwi
Subject: Re: book rescue
Message-ID: <199802280450.XAA19280@mcfeely.concentric.net>
Some damage is inevitable (shrinking, wrinkling, stains,damaged
bindings). But the bboks should be usable if you can avoid
mildew/mold. Dry the bboks as best you can, with plenty of air and,
if possible, sunlight. Libraries face special problems because of the
magnitude of the task and the lack of good ventilation in many
university libraries. But you can make it if you are aggressive.
If mildew has set in, get the books out in the sun and pray. You've
probably lost them, but it;s worth a try.
Otherwise, try putting paper towels between the leaves of cloth-bound
books and weighting the volumes. Change the towels as soon as they
get damp When you get most of the water out, prop them up like an
A-frame house and put a fan on them. I'd just hang the data files
and magazines on a clothesline outside in the sun and, hopefully a
breeze. Otherwise, hang them inside with a fan blowing on them.
Good luck. And never again store books in the basement or on the
floor. They are one of the few assets we have that is more often
irreplaceable than not. And your insurance will never give you
anywhere near replacement cost for them.
> Gerry,
>
> Terribly sorry to learn that possibly US$2,000 worth of books should
> be submerged in your flooded basement. A similar thing happened in Ft.
> Collins CO last summer, but on a larger scale, they had over 500,000 books
> in their basement flooded. What the CO library did was have a salvage firm
> in Texas freeze the wet books, then they were placed in a freeze dryer
> which removed the frozen water without letting it become liquid again.
> Unfortunately, this is a process that must be done fairly quickly after the
> books get wet, they don't do too well staying damp for too long.
>
> Perhaps you will need to write Uncle Ray a massive check for the
> volumes in your collection that are still available.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Charles
>
> hartc@spot.colorado.edu
>
>
>
>
> >Her ladyship and I moved to a new, larger, home in late November. Unpacking
> >has been unending with, of course, the models and literature coming last.
> >In fact I was waiting for the electrician to put outlets in the basement
> >before setting up my "work" area.
> >Last week we had an enormous rainfall that somehow concentrated its entire
> >effort on squezzing into our basement flooding the same to a depth of
> >about 6 inches.
> >
> >Well- there were some models that got it- plus all the Americal decals- and
> >most hurtful of all- my Windsocks and Datafiles [ which were tastefully
> >arranged in binders.] Oh yes- Marty O'Connors book was also washed.
> >Anyone have any experience in salvaging this type of loss? Is it possible
> >or do I just chuck it all and get on with it?
> >
> >Any advice would be much appreciated.
> >
> >Cheers
> >Gerry
>
>
>
>
>
Rob
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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 21:54:03 +0000
From: rojo1@concentric.net
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Zep paint
Message-ID: <199802280459.XAA23329@cliff.concentric.net>
The gas bags inside were made from gold-beaters' skin, the intestinal
lining of lambs, if memory serves. It was not perfectly
hydrogen-proof (few things are). So there was always stray hydrogen
in the envelope. The drag of the unsealed fabric would hardly have
been significant at zep speads of 40-50 knots. Rain was a bigger
problem, and Zeppelins were never willingly moored in the open for
this reason. They gained a lot of water weight in a rain or even in a
heavy dew.
>
> >> Didn't zeppelin envelopes have vents built into them to relieve
> >>hydrogen build up ?
> >
> >Yes.
> >
> >>This makes the explanation of unpainted covering to
> >>"vent" excess hydrogen a little suspect to me.
> >
> >But there are still those rectangular darkish patches on the middle
> >topsides. What are thes for then?
> >Maybe the vents connected directly to the gas bags. Temperature rose, gas
> >expands, out the excess goes through the vents. Maybe the "loose weave
> >areas were for letting gas escape in case there were any punctures in the
> >gas bags?
> >
> >
> Well, you know, if the whole of the fabric covering on a Zepplin
> WASN'T sealed with dope. aluminum impregnated paint or whatever wouldn't
> that have some adverse effects on the aerodynamic efficency of the "empire
> state building" on its side and heading into the wind ?????
>
> The weave of the fabric, on any aircraft, needs to be smoothed and
> filled against the rush of air on an airframe. If something needs venting,
> then its up to the engineer to figure out a structure to remove the
> offending material.
>
> Charles
>
> hartc@spot.colorado.edu
>
>
>
>
Rob
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 00:56:12 -0800
From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer)
To: wwi
Subject: RE: 1/48 ZEP
Message-ID: <199802280856.AA04352@ednet1.orednet.org>
>
>AS I mentioned I was a small chil. The years could have been 1930 thru
>1933. It was warm so it should have been spring or summer. I believe
>Icould be wrong about the names but I am not wrong about three airships,
>the direction of flight, the approximate altitude or the impression it
>left on me. Have a great time gentlemen. People with more access and a
>lot fewer years may yet let me know, more precisely, what I saw. I
>would like that. When you reach almost 73, what will you have for
>memories? Lee.
Well, we have a mystery, then. USS Los Angeles visited Michigan
(Dearborn, actually) in October of 1926 and that is the only Michigan
trip by any of the USN dirigibles I can find - although both USS Shenandoah
and USS Los Angeles made at least one trip on the Chicago-Toledo
route which _might_ have strayed into Michigan. USS Shenandoah
was enroute to Detroit in September of 1925 but it never made
it - being lost in a storm in eastern Ohio prior to arrival.
Neither the Graf Zeppelin nor the Hindenberg ever made it to
Michigan either - the Hindenberg never venturing west of Lakehurst
NJ while the Graf Zeppelin, on its round-the-world tour, crossed
on the southern route through Texas. A trip through the midwest,
including Detroit, was proposed for the Graf Zeppelin but
a combination of adverse weather and needed repairs at Lakehurst
scrubbed this idea.
Of course, both the US Army Air Corps and the US Navy operated
several non-rigid airships in the 1920's and '30's and their
travels are much less well documented than are those of the
four USN dirigibles - certainly one or more of those craft
could have been operated in the Michigan area during that
period.
So, perhaps this is the explanation. Alas, I have only
brief references to the USAAC and USN non-rigid airships
so I don't know their size or whether they might be
legitimately mistaken for any of the four Zeppelin-type
airships or whether they were ever in Michigan.
I was not intending to be overly critical of your
recollections and I apologize if any offense was
given. I was only intending to relate what the historical
references indicate about the operations of the four
USN rigid airships.
Cheers and all,
--
Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org
" There's worser things than marchin' from Umballa to Cawnpore"
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 03:52:24 -0600
From: "Scott M. Head"
To: wwi
Subject: Frank Luke's Eagle logo
Message-ID: <9802280347.aa18940@mail.iapc.net>
Martin,
I'll pass this along to the WWI Mailing List I belong to...
Guys? Any help for Martin? (please cc as well as the list)
Cheers!
Scott M. Head
IPMS/Houston Scale Model Forum
>Would anyone know the source of the eagle logo used by Lt. Frank Luke's
>27th Aero (WWI)? It looks like something that could have been lifted from
>a recruiting poster. Thanks.
>--
>-Martin Speed of Cincinnati, OH-
>
>You are cordially invited to visit my terrific web site:
>http://www2.eos.net/speed/
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 08:17:36 -0500
From: perrysm@juno.com
To: wwi
Subject: Beginning new project
Message-ID: <19980228.084232.5110.0.perrysm@juno.com>
To: Riordan (the list librarian)
Thanks to Barry at Rosemont, I now have all the extra detail parts I can
handle and am ready to start on my Albatros D.V. I believe you mentioned
the possibility of borrowing the approprate datafile.
I'd sure appreciate a look. Please contact me off list: smperry@juno.com
thanks
sp
List::
I'm excellent at loosing old postings, however I beleive someone on the
list had said they were a great Albatros fan. My apologies for loosing
the post & forgeting your name, but if you're there give me a shout. I've
got a nice kit here and would prefer to avoid any nicely executed,
glaring errors and could sure use to talk to you.
thanks
sp
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 08:02:04 -0600
From: "Charles Duckworth"
To:
Subject: Re: Frank Luke's Eagle logo
Message-ID: <199802281407.IAA03522@mail.primary.net>
Would anyone know the source of the eagle logo used by Lt. Frank Luke's
27th Aero (WWI)? It looks like something that could have been lifted from
a recruiting poster. Thanks.
Looked through Dover's book on First World War Posters and no eagle but
then recalled
a poster from the early 1940's of an eagle diving on an unknown enemy with
a bunch of P-35's.
I seem to remember a U.S. period poster of a bald eagle diving on a German
eagle or hawk but can 't place it. Looking in Wings of Honor and America's
First Eagles and no leads there either.
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 07:29:59 -0800
From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Beginning new project/ mail call
Message-ID: <34F82D77.4806@ricochet.net>
perrysm@juno.com wrote:
> I believe you mentioned the possibility of borrowing the approprate datafile.
Steve, Matthew, Phil,
Your materials went in the mail on wednesday. Look for them in the next
week or two.
Steve, please only hang on to the datafile for a month before returning
it; there was previously no time limit retained but I've recently had
some stuff way overdue.
Cheers,
Riordan
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 11:00:29 -0500
From: bucky@mail.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael)
To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: book rescue
Message-ID: <199802281600.LAA00168@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
At 11:54 PM 2/27/98 -0500, rojo1@concentric.net wrote:
>
>Good luck. And never again store books in the basement or on the
>floor. They are one of the few assets we have that is more often
>irreplaceable than not. And your insurance will never give you
>anywhere near replacement cost for them.
Let me echo Rob's sentiments. A small fire in my parents' basement
resulted in tons of water beinbg pumped in by the eager firemen. Result, all
the books I collected as kid got waterlogged. My parents threw them
out...Harleyford books, profiles, I get sick just thinking about it.....
Mike Muth
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 08:22:10 -0800
From: "Fernando E. Lamas, M.D."
To: wwi
Cc: speed@eos.net
Subject: Re: Frank Luke's Eagle logo
Message-ID:
At 09:10 AM 2/28/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Would anyone know the source of the eagle logo used by Lt. Frank Luke's
>27th Aero (WWI)? It looks like something that could have been lifted from
>a recruiting poster. Thanks.
>>Looked through Dover's book on First World War Posters and no eagle ...
>>I seem to remember a U.S. period poster of a bald eagle diving on a German
>>eagle or hawk but can 't place it.
A full page illustration of that poster is on page 146 of the Time/Life
book "Knights of the Air". It shows a rear view of an American bald eagle
with the body posture of the eagle on the 27th Aero logo pouncing head on
into a black German eagle that is reeling back from the assult. The caption
of the poster reads, "Join the Army Air Servive. Be an American Eagle."
Incidentally, the USAF web page has a gallery of original squadron logos
that were cut out of various American aircraft during the war. One of them
is from one of Luke's SPAD's.
Fernando Lamas
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 12:34:08 -0600
From: mbittner@juno.com
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Circus Colours and Aerodrome Modeller
Message-ID: <19980228.130927.14750.0.mbittner@juno.com>
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998 07:58:59 -0500 Graham Nash
writes:
>By the way does anyone on the list have 'Aerodrome Modeller'. Was it any
>good? Does anyone have a list of articles contained therein, so that I
>can update my database and put the books on my 'wants' list.
I have one copy - a photocopy of an original Greg VW let me borrow.
It's not bad. Definitely not of the "quality" of, say, OtF (meaning in
presentation, and not in content).
Since I only have one, I have no idea about the rest, nor the number of
issues that actually came out.
Matt Bittner
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 13:07:52 -0600
From: mbittner@juno.com
To: wwi
Subject: Re: A call out to Toko
Message-ID: <19980228.130927.14750.4.mbittner@juno.com>
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998 13:09:28 -0500 "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador"
writes:
>here is a draft cut at a letter to TOKO (sorry, the minicraft letter
from
>the modeling site is apparently unavailable). the intent is to keep it
>short and sweet while using fairly standard/simple english. space has
been
>left at the bottom to list those kits of personal interest to us. let
me
>know what you think.
Thanks, Phillip. That's a great letter!
So, who's with me on this? Do we still want to translate? Here's an
idea. Everybody send their personal letter in English, and then we'll
draft one collectively from the list and have it translated. Thoughts?
Matt Bittner
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 15:59:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Matthew Zivich
To: wwi
Cc: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: Paper model Zep
Message-ID:
The paper Zep is made by Schreiber-Bogen Modellbau in 1:200 scale @ $30
US. It is the Graf Zeppelin LZ 127 (not WWI). Just saw it at Stanton's
in Chicago.
Matt Z.
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Gerald P. McOsker wrote:
> >>
> >Matt Z. sayeth-
>
> There is a paper Zep. now available in model shops made by a German
> >comp. I have a paper Taube in 1/48 made by the same comp. (The Zep. is
> >small, perhaps a foot long.)
>
> Verily- there are several paper Zeps but I believes they are the
> Hindenburg/Graf ons- [maybe the Macon?] available from that paper model
> place in Oregon or Washington or one of those distant provinces.
>
> No WW-I Zepp yet- or maybe some gnome in Langenlonsheim is turning them
> out and noone is telling us-??
>
> Cheese-
>
> Gerry
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 13:44:15 -0800
From: Bob Pearson
To: WW1 Mailing list
Subject: Re: Circus Colours and Aerodrome Modeller
Message-ID: <21441560511104@KAIEN.COM>
Greetings all,
Aerodrome Modeler folded after Vol4/4. Greg VW sent me parts of vol 1; plus
all of 3/6, 4/1-4. I found them quite useful in developing many of my
profiles, however much of the information has been superceded since the
articles were written 15+ years ago. Many of the articles by GVW and Jon
Guttman were later reprinted in C&C(USA).
Regards,
Bob Pearson
----------
> From: mbittner@juno.com
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: Re: Circus Colours and Aerodrome Modeller
> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 14:13:42 -0500
>
> On Fri, 27 Feb 1998 07:58:59 -0500 Graham Nash
> writes:
>
> >By the way does anyone on the list have 'Aerodrome Modeller'. Was it any
> >good? Does anyone have a list of articles contained therein, so that I
> >can update my database and put the books on my 'wants' list.
>
> I have one copy - a photocopy of an original Greg VW let me borrow.
>
> It's not bad. Definitely not of the "quality" of, say, OtF (meaning in
> presentation, and not in content).
>
> Since I only have one, I have no idea about the rest, nor the number of
> issues that actually came out.
>
>
> Matt Bittner
>
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 21:22:49 +0100
From: Pedro Nuno Soares
To: "'ww1 modeling list'"
Subject: Propagteam Lozenge decals
Message-ID: <01BD4491.106BF860@fei1-p10.telepac.pt>
Hi gang
Just a word of warning:
A couple of minutes ago I was applying the Propagteam underside 4 colour =
lozenge under the fuselage of my Fokker DVIII and even though a couple =
of days ago, following Shane's and Perry's comments, I had first sprayed =
the decals with a good coat of Humbrol satin cote, they still broke when =
I slid them of the backing paper and the edges showed a tendency to =
disintegrate.
So if any of you is going to use this stuff, giving them a coat of =
varnish before using is an absolute must.
Um abraco
Pedro
nb. Eduard Fokker DVIII
Revell off-topic plane with no engine and swastika on tail
np. Seasons - Magna Carta
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 21:25:13 +0100
From: Pedro Nuno Soares
To: "'ww1 modeling list'"
Subject: Robert's Handley Page 0/400
Message-ID: <01BD4491.147B1800@fei1-p10.telepac.pt>
Robert,
Will it be ready for tomorrow?
If yes, best of luck and don't forget to show it to us...
Um abraco
Pedro
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 21:41:19 +0100
From: Pedro Nuno Soares
To: "'ww1 modeling list'"
Subject: Re: letter to TOKO
Message-ID: <01BD4491.A6A7BF80@fei1-p10.telepac.pt>
Matt wrote:
>Thanks, Phillip. That's a great letter!
I have nothing to add to Matt. Thanks Phillip.
>So, who's with me on this? Do we still want to translate? Here's an
idea. Everybody send their personal letter in English, and then we'll
draft one collectively from the list and have it translated. Thoughts?
I agree with you Matt. Will be sending my letter next week.
Matt Bittner
Um abraco
Pedro
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 16:38:35 -0500
From: perrysm@juno.com
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Beginning new project/ mail call
Message-ID: <19980228.164631.6766.0.perrysm@juno.com>
>Steve, please only hang on to the datafile for a month before
>returning
>it; there was previously no time limit retained but I've recently had
>some stuff way overdue.
Not to worry, once I get "on a build" I get pretty obsessive. I'll be
dusting the model inside a month.
Thank you very much
sp
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 16:45:06 -0500
From: perrysm@juno.com
To: wwi
Subject: Seat for R. Godfrey
Message-ID: <19980228.164631.6766.1.perrysm@juno.com>
Robert:
I got your e-mail and saw your post. I tried to e-mail you off list but
got an error.
I went to making a 1:72 seat just to see how many strands and how long.
it takes.
I cut out the seat, drilled the holes, installed the brass wire frame and
wove 1/2 of it in an hour. That's 14 tiers of sprue, about 10" in a
single piece.
You will find mono hard to use because it will not take a "set" like
sprue. This is very helpful when you go round the edge and back the way
you came. Have to keep tension on the mono at all times. Tacking would be
hard as mono doesn't like CA too well.
I'll send you the finished seat ready to paint and install. Just shoot me
your address again as I seem to have deleted the post.
Steve Perry
No war is "Great", but we all know which one had the Great airplanes!
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 14:36:22 -0800
From: "Fernando E. Lamas, M.D."
To: wwi
Subject: Fly fishing tippet material for rigging
Message-ID:
At 02:13 PM 2/27/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I buy mine (.005) fishing line from a local fly fishing store for $3.95.
From an old post:
> I started using fly fishing tippet material recently and won't use
>anything else now. It comes in X sizes (4X, 5X, etc). 5X works real
>well for 1/48. It is limp, attaches well with white or super glue and.....
Dumb fly fishing question:
Following suggestions from an old post, I bought some 5X fly fishing
leader tippet material for rigging. To my surprise, the stuff is tapered
with the narrow end being .006 in diameter and increasing to .020 in
diameter at the thick end.
Does this stuff also come in uniform thickness or is it always tapered?
I'd rather ask my dumb questions here rather than at the fishing store.
Is 5X the consensus for the right size in 1/48?
Fernando Lamas
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 17:35:53 -0600
From: "Lee Mensinger"
To: wwi
Subject: Re: 1/48 ZEP
Message-ID: <34F89F59.E733D6CE@wireweb.net>
Bill Shatzer wrote:
> >
> >AS I mentioned I was a small chil. The years could have been 1930
> thru
> >1933. It was warm so it should have been spring or summer. I believe
>
> >Icould be wrong about the names but I am not wrong about three
> airships,
> >the direction of flight, the approximate altitude or the impression
> it
> >left on me. Have a great time gentlemen. People with more access
> and a
> >lot fewer years may yet let me know, more precisely, what I saw. I
> >would like that. When you reach almost 73, what will you have for
> >memories? Lee.
>
> Well, we have a mystery, then. USS Los Angeles visited Michigan
> (Dearborn, actually) in October of 1926 and that is the only Michigan
> trip by any of the USN dirigibles I can find - although both USS
> Shenandoah
> and USS Los Angeles made at least one trip on the Chicago-Toledo
> route which _might_ have strayed into Michigan. USS Shenandoah
> was enroute to Detroit in September of 1925 but it never made
> it - being lost in a storm in eastern Ohio prior to arrival.
>
> Neither the Graf Zeppelin nor the Hindenberg ever made it to
> Michigan either - the Hindenberg never venturing west of Lakehurst
> NJ while the Graf Zeppelin, on its round-the-world tour, crossed
> on the southern route through Texas. A trip through the midwest,
> including Detroit, was proposed for the Graf Zeppelin but
> a combination of adverse weather and needed repairs at Lakehurst
> scrubbed this idea.
>
> Of course, both the US Army Air Corps and the US Navy operated
> several non-rigid airships in the 1920's and '30's and their
> travels are much less well documented than are those of the
> four USN dirigibles - certainly one or more of those craft
> could have been operated in the Michigan area during that
> period.
>
> So, perhaps this is the explanation. Alas, I have only
> brief references to the USAAC and USN non-rigid airships
> so I don't know their size or whether they might be
> legitimately mistaken for any of the four Zeppelin-type
> airships or whether they were ever in Michigan.
>
> I was not intending to be overly critical of your
> recollections and I apologize if any offense was
> given. I was only intending to relate what the historical
> references indicate about the operations of the four
> USN rigid airships.
>
> Cheers and all,
>
> --
> Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org
>
> " There's worser things than marchin' from Umballa to Cawnpore"
No offence taken. But I assure you I do know the difference between
blimps and dirigibles. The big problem is the size of the memory and
the time differentiation. Being young and somewhat awed by the whole
thing it makes the occassion memorable but not the date.It may well be
that they simply flew across to Canada for a Canadian event. There was
a Royal death and a Coronation some time around that period.
Dirigibles have lots more engines than blimps even under sad
circumstance I believe that will always be true and will remain as a way
to tell the difference between them. Dirigibles also are not shaped
like "jelly beans" with rudders.. More like "hotdogs". Lee
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