If you want to effectively argue against something it can often be helpful to address and rebut any points that are made. I understand trying to distract with something meaningless and making up your own argument is easier, but less effective in the long run.

The ice cream and the photo are completely irrelevant. The only thing that really matters here are the statements "We beat stupidity celebration cones" and "dadkilledit" attached to the photo. The argument is that these statements are unprofessional coming from a defense attorney, especially immediately after examining a witness since it presents a very disrespectful view towards the witness. There are some valid arguments against this, like challenging the idea that defense attorneys need to be respectful or professional at all, that it was from his daughters and he had no control or influence over the content, that the photo and comments were taken/written at an earlier date and were not related to the witness testimony.

But to just focus on the ice cream picture like that is what matters is dishonest and lazy.

The girl has a point. Even if your on the prosecutions side you can not say that Jabba is not stupid. I mean if she was my kid and acted like she did in court I would would just tell her " Jabba, I love ya honey but your pretty stupid" then I would hope she can get out of high school in the next 3 years.

TheOmni:If you want to effectively argue against something it can often be helpful to address and rebut any points that are made. I understand trying to distract with something meaningless and making up your own argument is easier, but less effective in the long run.

The ice cream and the photo are completely irrelevant. The only thing that really matters here are the statements "We beat stupidity celebration cones" and "dadkilledit" attached to the photo. The argument is that these statements are unprofessional coming from a defense attorney, especially immediately after examining a witness since it presents a very disrespectful view towards the witness. There are some valid arguments against this, like challenging the idea that defense attorneys need to be respectful or professional at all, that it was from his daughters and he had no control or influence over the content, that the photo and comments were taken/written at an earlier date and were not related to the witness testimony.

But to just focus on the ice cream picture like that is what matters is dishonest and lazy.

I agree, if West sent this or any other lawyer after cross-examining the opposite side's witness they deserve a re-education on court etiquette. But as you mentioned, it appears that it was before Jeantel (was that her name?) was on the stand, plus it was his adult daughter that posted it and made the comments which I don't think he should be responsible for unless it's proven he told her to post it.

I saw some of the trial today, the defense attorney was trying to discredit the ME on the stand by pointing out she was working with the DA's office. indirectly as she worked for the State. Like you'd expect across the country.

Pretty clear he was trying to bank on the jury not knowing how government works and paint the false image of the ME being in the prosecution's pocket.

big day for prosecution today. Zimmerman caught in a huge lie. (had to walk all the way through the alley to find an address) all those houses have addresses on the front right beside the outside light. even George's house had one there. He knew where he was.the medical examiner also said his injuries were insignificant, not a result of head being slammed into the concrete several times. no stitches, no real trauma. just small scratches and a couple of small knots.

Saberus Terras:I saw some of the trial today, the defense attorney was trying to discredit the ME on the stand by pointing out she was working with the DA's office. indirectly as she worked for the State. Like you'd expect across the country.

Pretty clear he was trying to bank on the jury not knowing how government works and paint the false image of the ME being in the prosecution's pocket.

I don't blame the defense for making such insinuations, that's their job. Anyway, I was recently summoned and chosen to sit on a jury for a 2nd degree murder case (non-capital punishment). I was disgusted with the attitude of my fellow jurors (wahhh, I don't want to be here, I'll go with whatever the rest of you decide, etc...) and that of the prosecution and defense. I really wish we didn't have an adversarial system and instead had one that actively sought the truth or at least the facts as available. But this is probably a pipe dream.

Hobodeluxe:big day for prosecution today. Zimmerman caught in a huge lie. (had to walk all the way through the alley to find an address) all those houses have addresses on the front right beside the outside light. even George's house had one there. He knew where he was.the medical examiner also said his injuries were insignificant, not a result of head being slammed into the concrete several times. no stitches, no real trauma. just small scratches and a couple of small knots.

It was a huge day for the prosecution considering how terrible things have been going and they still got there clock cleaned.

Hobodeluxe:big day for prosecution today. Zimmerman caught in a huge lie. (had to walk all the way through the alley to find an address) all those houses have addresses on the front right beside the outside light. even George's house had one there. He knew where he was.the medical examiner also said his injuries were insignificant, not a result of head being slammed into the concrete several times. no stitches, no real trauma. just small scratches and a couple of small knots.

A) Zimmerman is acquitted, followed shortly thereafter by the biggest riots this country has seen in 20 yearsB) Zimmerman is convicted, followed immediately by Governor Rick Scott issuing him a pardon just to spite black people (and possibly also the FL legislature passing a law specifically designed to prevent Trayvon Martin's family from suing anybody even tangentially involved in the trial but carefully worded so Martin's family can't get it overturned as a violation of the whole "no Bills of Attainder" bit in the US Constitution), in turn followed by the biggest riots this country has seen in 20 years

A) Zimmerman is acquitted, followed shortly thereafter by the biggest riots this country has seen in 20 yearsB) Zimmerman is convicted, followed immediately by Governor Rick Scott issuing him a pardon just to spite black people (and possibly also the FL legislature passing a law specifically designed to prevent Trayvon Martin's family from suing anybody even tangentially involved in the trial but carefully worded so Martin's family can't get it overturned as a violation of the whole "no Bills of Attainder" bit in the US Constitution), in turn followed by the biggest riots this country has seen in 20 years

oooh you are so right, there is just to much stuff that other people own to not take it. Do not let a great thing like this go to waste. Its all about the stuff.

A) Zimmerman is acquitted, followed shortly thereafter by the biggest riots this country has seen in 20 yearsB) Zimmerman is convicted, followed immediately by Governor Rick Scott issuing him a pardon just to spite black people (and possibly also the FL legislature passing a law specifically designed to prevent Trayvon Martin's family from suing anybody even tangentially involved in the trial but carefully worded so Martin's family can't get it overturned as a violation of the whole "no Bills of Attainder" bit in the US Constitution), in turn followed by the biggest riots this country has seen in 20 years

I sincerely doubt there will be riots, in Florida at least. There are over 1,000,000 issued CCW permits in Florida outstanding and gun ownership in the state is extremely high. Blacks are also greatly outnumbered by whites and/or hispanics in basically the entire state. Rioting would be just short of going over the top of a WW1 trench and rushing enemy machine gun nests.

sheep snorter:Daughter: "hey lets title the picture something that is almost racist but not illegal to the proceedings."Dad Lawyer: "And I'll deny any responsibility since you are nothing but a stupid kid."

Because Jackson and Sharpton swoop into a small sleepy Florida town where this kind of murder-profiling has gone on before; and simply ask for the person who murdered someone to be arrested and the trial to be held in the first place, they're out to make a buck?

I'll say it again: Shut your goddamn whore mouth.

/white guy//zimmerman would've shot me if I was wearing a hoodie.///btw: it was raining. everyone wears hoodies in fla in february if its going to rain -- because its got a f*cking hood.

BigNumber12:sheep snorter: Daughter: "hey lets title the picture something that is almost racist but not illegal to the proceedings."Dad Lawyer: "And I'll deny any responsibility since you are nothing but a stupid kid."

Care to explain?

I think he's referring to the part of the caption that reads, "beat stupidity".

TomD9938:BigNumber12: sheep snorter: Daughter: "hey lets title the picture something that is almost racist but not illegal to the proceedings."Dad Lawyer: "And I'll deny any responsibility since you are nothing but a stupid kid."

Care to explain?

I think he's referring to the part of the caption that reads, "beat stupidity".

Apparently sheep snorter equates being black with being stupid.

It's funny how often his type makes that association, and uses it to assert that someone else is a racist.

Hobodeluxe:big day for prosecution today. Zimmerman caught in a huge lie.

GZ has been caught in at least a dozen of them. So what? Just because everyone knows he is a lying sack of shiat doesn't change the fact that the prosecution has no one who -can- prove what happened. Still no case no matter how many lies he is caught in.

DoomPaul:King Something: I can see only two possible outcomes for the trial:

A) Zimmerman is acquitted, followed shortly thereafter by the biggest riots this country has seen in 20 yearsB) Zimmerman is convicted, followed immediately by Governor Rick Scott issuing him a pardon just to spite black people (and possibly also the FL legislature passing a law specifically designed to prevent Trayvon Martin's family from suing anybody even tangentially involved in the trial but carefully worded so Martin's family can't get it overturned as a violation of the whole "no Bills of Attainder" bit in the US Constitution), in turn followed by the biggest riots this country has seen in 20 years

I sincerely doubt there will be riots, in Florida at least. There are over 1,000,000 issued CCW permits in Florida outstanding and gun ownership in the state is extremely high. Blacks are also greatly outnumbered by whites and/or hispanics in basically the entire state. Rioting would be just short of going over the top of a WW1 trench and rushing enemy machine gun nests.

DoomPaul:King Something: I can see only two possible outcomes for the trial:

A) Zimmerman is acquitted, followed shortly thereafter by the biggest riots this country has seen in 20 yearsB) Zimmerman is convicted, followed immediately by Governor Rick Scott issuing him a pardon just to spite black people (and possibly also the FL legislature passing a law specifically designed to prevent Trayvon Martin's family from suing anybody even tangentially involved in the trial but carefully worded so Martin's family can't get it overturned as a violation of the whole "no Bills of Attainder" bit in the US Constitution), in turn followed by the biggest riots this country has seen in 20 years

I sincerely doubt there will be riots, in Florida at least. There are over 1,000,000 issued CCW permits in Florida outstanding and gun ownership in the state is extremely high. Blacks are also greatly outnumbered by whites and/or hispanics in basically the entire state. Rioting would be just short of going over the top of a WW1 trench and rushing enemy machine gun nests.

Third Day Mark:Dr.Mxyzptlk.: [encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 299x169] Who needs evidence ?

You shut your whore mouth.

Because Jackson and Sharpton swoop into a small sleepy Florida town where this kind of murder-profiling has gone on before; and simply ask for the person who murdered someone to be arrested and the trial to be held in the first place, they're out to make a buck?

I'll say it again: Shut your goddamn whore mouth.

/white guy//zimmerman would've shot me if I was wearing a hoodie.///btw: it was raining. everyone wears hoodies in fla in february if its going to rain -- because its got a f*cking hood.

Yes, we Floridians love wearing our hoodies to protect us from the rain, then proceed to not get out of said rain. We're all funny like that.