Hi everyone. Been following this website and your comments for a year, since the Fukushima catastrophe, figured it's past time to join in. I belive they know exactly how big this sinkhole is/gonna be. We are the one's who don't know due to their not telling us. I bet they know this things end result a month ago. They have satellite info, geophysical databases of many kinds. We are sheep..
..baaaaa

Welcome ktc. They may have the maps and measurements, but, they don't have all the geological insight and knowledge. My sense is that their knowledge is based on old school geology that still cannot grasp that earthquakes are interelated and come in clusters, that kind of thing – the static model of earth movement geology. Old school seismology which is used in the extraction industry. It doesn't matter how pretty and details the maps are if you can't fathom what you are seeing. The static model only works during quiet, low activity periods, which was when this science was created, but, not when the ground, groundwater, aquifers, methane layers, magnetic properties all start to shift at once. There are no models for this because there was no thinking of this until now. I do think they will "wrap this up" and believe they have in fixed, then, in about 5 years, there will be a burp from a gas pocket, and it starts all over again, here and elsewhere.

You said it msb, the extraction of hydrocarbons IS the priority here and will be. All the science, the maps, the tools, the leadership, the insights, what are acceptable courses of action all revolve around this single principal – how to get the stuff out of the ground. They will want to do it safely, and will believe that they are, because our entire society depends on their success, even at the expense of fouling neighborhoods, wildlife, entire oceans. We must all support green renewal energy. That means conserving, buying green energy through our energy company or PUD's, donating for carbon offsets for our cars, learning all we can and finding out how we can help. Until rate payers, us consumers, make that choice, these people will see no sense in changing course. If the work is dangerous and ecologically harmful, they will just try a new technological approach to reach the same goal of extraction – capture the carbon, funnel the bad stuff and store it, make a better drill rig, invent Corexit, booms, and skimmers….

Wisco nuke — their main buyer from the klunker Kewaunee plant in which nuke employees were busted for pounding beers at lunchhour INSIDE containment, is cutting all buying from Kewaunee in favor of strong feed in tariff from Solar Power, and natgas generators….and on their website, their next 3 events are
Frequency metrics for renewables….bioenergy….fracking….

Hilarious! yep those cheeseheads are smart enough to run away from nuclear at all due speed.

@ktc, that could take this to a whole new level. Mark is a proponent of that theory. I just don't know enough about it to say either way but am trying to educate myself. What i do believe, though, is that the theory of subduction from the 1960's from which nearly all seismology has been based, is in serious doubt. Apparently it always was, but, it gained great popularity with the hydrocarbon extraction crowd and so became the "scientifically accepted theory". Unfortunately, it's not actually based upon much science. There is no actual proof of subduction, and what is offered as proof is better explained through other causes other than the tectonic plates somehow managing to lift up and ride on top of each other. The Pangea theory, which, if true, would have thrown the Earth out of orbit long ago careening off into space. From drilling to siting nuclear plants is based upon this static model – a blend of static with improbable subduction. And, they are wrong. This is where profit science isn't really science. It's bending the facts to fit the wallet and it works short term but later generations pay the sad price.

That theory is very interesting and seems even more so now. I'm new to this site and new to most all of these topics so I have a lot to learn too. Although, I did work for a nuc plant for awhile and now find myself totally ANTI-NUKE

Again I deplore NASA to take some sonar soundings and tell the world how huge this dome really is and how far it extends in all directions.Then how deep it really is and if its falling into the other dome full of Butane from the side ways movements

Holy crap markww!!!! I decided awhile back to pay attention to your posts. You certainly have been like a laser on this topic. Id be interested in reading your speculation on how you see this evolving. This link stunningly supports your previous suggestions.

markww, i've been chatting with krugthecaveman, and about possible connections you suggest have occurred. I don't know, but, something's amiss and i do believe that current seismology cannot fathom this because they are trained in theories that ignore what is before their very eyes. We can measure a sinkhole all we like, but, until we measure the cracks and fissures and soft rock lattice that exists between all such geological formations such as salt domes, hydrocrabon deposits, etc., we will not understand that it doesn't matter how hard a rock formation is for safety, but, how pliable the ground between formations is that matters more. By consistently underestimating our activities upon this planet, we do anything potentially great harm. The planet has been in a quiet period and now moving into an active period. Wherever we drilled or stored or extracted or overused becomes a weak link in a long chain.

Does taking this type of measurement actually create vibration? Isn't the sound-measuring what they are doing or wanting to do off the coast of California the same that kills fish and dolphins or – makes them deaf or something? I'd be willing to guess that they are too afraid of what might happen if they take those type of measurements. If there are cracks and fissures wouldn't the tests potentially create huge or bigger problems? (That is — if they haven't already done testing and just not gone public with the results).

I read they are now going to use muons to locate the corium. Fascinating as I watched a video on Volcanoes and this is what they are using to detect activity thus I think it will work but I still can't understand why an infrared photo would not locate the missing corium. It is either splattered all over everything or has reached a great depth.

I believe that the sinkhole is at the "edge" of a rift in the form of an aquifer and Madrid fault. The Macondo wellhead and relief hole also punctured the tift area in the gilf. Weight of the water in the gulf pushing crude and methane north? Mark?

"…
Five meteorites have fallen on Radivoje Lajic's house in the past six months. There is only one possible conclusion. Lajic says:

"I am obviously being targeted by extraterrestrials. I don't know what I have done to annoy them but there is no other explanation that makes sense. The chance of being hit by a meteorite is so small that getting hit five times has to be deliberate."
…"

All we can do and people like me that are trained in Disasters and have seen things in our life times, use what we have seen and learned and try to make a righteous working thought and theory. TO HELP OUR FELLOW MAN,

What I would do IF I was in charge of the Disaster is shut down the two Nuclear facilities, The Waterford Steam Electric Station, Unit 3 nuclear facility, also known as Waterford 3, is a power plant on a 3,000-acre (12-km²) plot in Killona, Louisiana near New Orleans, about 50 miles from the Bayou Corne methane bubbling area.

Due to the leaks in underground systems gas is traveling and other nasty chemicals and poisons, we know nothing about. To prepare I would start flaring any vent leaks to release the trapped gasses,and use seismograph sonars and work to shore up all areas around the domes with solid rock concrete to stabilize the many weak spots by drilling pylons deep into the subsurface to shore other domes . JUST MY THOUGHTS

markww , i have no clue studied to controle anything you are saying , but i hope your expertise gets pickedup and keeps being monitored, analysed and used by the right people , thanks for pushing a difference the way you can. We all are sharing the sinking ship here .

Just wondering, Mark, if methane has no odor or color, then it is likely it could be collecting in hollow places, such as ditches or bunkers, and nobody would know it was there. If this gas was seeping out of the dry ground, would it collect in low areas, making an explosion hazard like what has happened at Camp Minden? Could people's basements or natural caves and the like, just explode from a random spark, such as lightning or a meteorite? Seems to me this is a real risk with tragic possibilities. What's your thoughts on this idea?

There were explosions in Tennessee Memphis from gas lines that were having problems.There was a quarry blasting and shook the ground, and could have been just old pipes. Gas has a way of finding places to hide that is why if they have gas bubbling they should flare it off . I would rater flare or gather the gas that have 10 or more explosions in places

Well methane becomes a whole different monster when diluted with oxygen and it has been leaking into the atmosphere since the gulf tragedy. Hope it is severely diluted and not at optimal explosion dilution levels. Just saying seeing how we have had meteorite landings during a meteor shower week and weekend.

They didn't update that description in a while. I think they started brine injection a couple of weeks ago. They must be moving it by now. They can move the natural gas faster than Crosstex can move their butane.

It has been updated as of Oct. 19th…page 1 updates the new Public Briefing date to Oct. 23

pg 7 & page 14 & the updated total for the number of barrels to 45 to 500 barrels as of Oct. 18th. There are other updates in Red throughout the report. Page 19 is the updated incident action plan for Oct. 19 to 22nd.

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