Mr. Wagstaff gave the presentation "Questar Gas - A Natural Gas Focused Energy Company" and said that
the number of natural gas vehicles has increased substantially but is still far lower than regular gas vehicles.
He discussed the demand for natural gas around the nation and said that states are joining together to use
natural gas vehicles in state fleets. He responded to questions from the committee by stating that there are
currently no laws impeding the production of natural gas. Mr. Wagstaff explained that a substantial amount
of water is used in the extraction of natural gas and therefore we need to be prudent with the usage of that
water. He spoke about the incentives for natural gas vehicle owners.

Mr. Johnson spoke about Utah's air quality and how it has hindered employee recruitment at Overstock.com.
He discussed the incentives offered and efforts made by Overstock.com to alleviate the air quality issue
including carpooling, UTA passes, and teleworking. He responded to questions from the committee by
saying that informing companies about small things that can be done to help the issue would make a big
difference.

Dr. Pope presented "Controlling Air Pollution in Utah: Trends, Health and Economic Benefits" and said that
fine combustion particle pollution is the greatest concern. He explained what fine combustion particles are
and the concentration levels in Utah Valley and the Salt Lake Valley by stating that there has been
improvement but that we still occasionally exceed the National Ambient Air Quality 24-hour Standard. He
discussed the health effects of fine particles and provided data from various studies of 100 cities around the
world that demonstrate an association between air pollution and cardiopulmonary disease and that it also
impacts lung development in children. Chair Wilson requested an Internet link from Dr. Pope to the
information from the report to Congress on the benefits and costs of federal regulation and funded mandates
by the Office of Management and Budget. Dr. Pope responded to questions from the committee by stating
that, of the industries that were interviewed in the 1980's, the biggest deterrent to moving businesses to Utah
was the air pollution. Sen. Reid requested that Dr. Pope provide the committee with the information from the
study of the economic impact of the closure of Geneva Steel.

Mr. Peacock introduce Mr. Mike Astin, Environmental Manager, Hollyfrontier Refinery, Chair,
Environmental Subcommittee. Mr. Peacock gave an overview of the Utah Petroleum Association and said
that the intermountain west is self sufficient when it comes to fuels. He explained that the refineries in Utah
provide fuel for many assets in Utah, Idaho, Washington, Wyoming, and Nevada. He said that oil and gas
produced from state trust lands provides a major portion of revenue to Utah's permanent school fund for the
benefit of Utah's school children. Mr. Peacock noted that less than 20% of the PM2.5 emissions come from
point sources and that Utah's refineries have reduced their emissions dramatically over the years.

Mr. Astin said that the Hollyfrontier Refinery has been very active in air quality improvement not only
dealing with what is required but also with what can be done beyond the requirements.

Mr. Peacock responded to questions from the committee by saying that a well funded Division of Air
Quality helps everyone.

Mr. Sands presented "Kennecott Utah Copper - Take a closer look" and discussed Kennecott Utah Copper's
role in emissions in Utah. He said that Kennecott Utah Copper's 5.8% contribution to emissions does not
contribute to the inversion as much as people think. He spoke about various projects Kennecott Utah Copper
has implemented to improve air quality including idle reduction, smelter capture, and voluntary initiatives.
Mr. Sands responded to questions from the committee by saying that idle reduction has provided substantial
savings for Kennecott Utah Copper and that air quality will take a collective effort to improve.

Mr. Bryce Bird, Director, Division of Air Quality, distributed and discussed "It's Up To All Of Us - The
Utah Division of Air Quality PM2.5 State Implementation Plan Information Booklet." He responded to
questions from the committee by saying that, over the last five years, the PM2.5 levels have been flat and
that Utah's air could look clean but still have very high ozone emission levels.

Chair Wilson relinquished the chair to Sen. Reid.

Chair Reid announced to the committee that the next meeting would take place on October 18 at 8 a.m. in
the Capitol Board Room, located in the State Capitol Building, and that it will be held in a classroom setting.

3.Other Business / Adjourn

MOTION: Rep. Dee moved to adjourn the meeting. The motion passed unanimously with Rep. Wilson
absent for the vote.