re: When exactly was Gordon given a 4-6 week timeline? (Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:51 am to TigerinATL)

quote:Link? I haven't seen that

Nola.com story from last week quoted monty saying that he's hearing it's still 4-6 weeks. Confusing phrasing, but 90% sure Monty was referring to the original 4-6 week timeline, not 4-6 weeks from the day he was quoted.

re: When exactly was Gordon given a 4-6 week timeline? (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:05 am to JohnnyKilroy)

quote:90% sure Monty was referring to the original 4-6 week timeline, not 4-6 weeks from the day he was quoted.

It sounds like the treatment he is receiving is to strengthen the surrounding knee so I don't think there'd be any set backs just 2 weeks in. I'm assuming after the 4-6 weeks he'll give practicing a try and then you'd see if there was a set back or not. And if there was a set back I don't think you'd get "4-6 more weeks" I think you'd get "indefinitely". If that ESPN story on microfracture surgery was to be believed, a set back could mean he's done for the year.

re: When exactly was Gordon given a 4-6 week timeline? (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:21 am to JohnnyKilroy)

quote:If that is the case, who is most to blame? Demps or the Hornets medical staff?

It's still too early for the blame game. This season and next are all about growing the young core, not making the playoffs, so if Gordon is ready to go or dumpable next year then I think it was a risk worth taking. If you're stuck with Gordon for 4 years or have to give up a good asset to move him then I think you have to blame Demps. He should have known better and he could have gotten different team doctors.

re: When exactly was Gordon given a 4-6 week timeline? (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:43 am to JohnnyKilroy)

quote:I'm just terrified of a Brandon Roy situation.

Brandon Roy has structural damage, he has no meniscus left in either knee and every time he moves there's bone on bone grinding. For Eric Gordon, the treatment and what we've been told point to Tendonitis which is a very treatable condition.

The microfracture story A) Came out of nowhere B) Didn't seem to fit the other facts so far and C) Came from Chris Broussard who's track record is pretty terrible. So if the microfracture story is bogus, which seems likely, then there is nothing to worry about long term other than his general injury proneness.

re: When exactly was Gordon given a 4-6 week timeline? (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:55 am to TigerinATL)

People pick on the medical staff, again, as if that's been a constant fixture for the team, and as if they have any training in diagnostics.

Are there issues stemming from that of the medical staff? Absolutely. And the same is true for every aspect of the franchise . . . not department is perfect.

Did the past near-year of stuff with Gordon prove they are fools? No. The patient determines what information is given to the staff and has input on treatment options, especially when choosing between a surgical and nonsurgical route.

At no point in this has there been any allegation of malpractice. There are symptoms, causes are hypothesized, and treatments are administered based on these hypothesis. And it goes from there.

People need to learn a little about a field before they drag the practitioners through the mud.

re: When exactly was Gordon given a 4-6 week timeline? (Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:00 pm to 42)

quote:Did the past near-year of stuff with Gordon prove they are fools? No. The patient determines what information is given to the staff and has input on treatment options, especially when choosing between a surgical and nonsurgical route.

At no point in this has there been any allegation of malpractice. There are symptoms, causes are hypothesized, and treatments are administered based on these hypothesis. And it goes from there.

People need to learn a little about a field before they drag the practitioners through the mud.

Again, the staff isn't the same, and you are again mistaking the diagnostic process in real life with errors. Just learn about the topic before you dive in, or just asked the question necessary to learn.

And calm yourself.

ETA: edited out the self-promotion false claim. at least there is that.

re: When exactly was Gordon given a 4-6 week timeline? (Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:24 pm to 42)

quote:And where is the self-promotion?

ETA: edited out the self-promotion false claim. at least there is that.

I edited that out to be nice. Sorry, but 247 sucks and your endless defense of all things 247 leads to you sucking. I take that obsessive defending as you trying to legitimize your own writing by legitimizing your site. That was just an aside.

Your assessment is bull shite and just your opinion. You don't know shite and writing for 247 doesn't change that. Stop acting like you are some super insider, because everyone can see through it. You're a glorified blogger.

quote:Again, the staff isn't the same, and you are again mistaking the diagnostic process in real life with errors. Just learn about the topic before you dive in, or just asked the question necessary to learn.

What do you know about the "diagnostic process"? No more than any other poster on this site. Or has Dell entrusted you with the secrets to Gordon's knee?

re: When exactly was Gordon given a 4-6 week timeline? (Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:29 pm to 42)

quote:People need to learn a little about a field before they drag the practitioners through the mud.

We have pretty much 3 possibilities to explain this bad situation. Bad Player, Bad Medical, Bad PR. 4 possibilities if you allow some combination. Pointing out these possibilities and asking questions is not the same thing as dragging a practitioner through the mud. I would have no problem asking anything I've posted directly to a team doctor. Their reply might be that my assumption is wrong and I'll have learned something, but asking reasonable questions on an internet message board when there is a glaring lack of answers shouldn't be viewed as an act of malice.

re: When exactly was Gordon given a 4-6 week timeline? (Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:36 pm to TigerinATL)

quote:We have pretty much 3 possibilities to explain this bad situation. Bad Player, Bad Medical, Bad PR. 4 possibilities if you allow some combination. Pointing out these possibilities and asking questions is not the same thing as dragging a practitioner through the mud. I would have no problem asking anything I've posted directly to a team doctor. Their reply might be that my assumption is wrong and I'll have learned something, but asking reasonable questions on an internet message board when there is a glaring lack of answers shouldn't be viewed as an act of malice.

That's the part that got me fired up. Asking legitimate questions is not tantamount to "dragging through mud."

re: When exactly was Gordon given a 4-6 week timeline? (Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:41 pm to Jester)

And I think it was aimed at me, or at least should have been aimed at me, because I'll admit I've asked repeatedly about the competency of the medical staff, but I think the questions have been reasonable given the limited facts we have available to us.