Originally posted by ID
On December 21, 2012 The Mayans believe that the 5th world age will begin. This means that our present age (the 4th) will end. The Mayans were
aware of the galactic occurrence of precession. Precession is caused by the wobbling of the earths axis. This wobbling causes stars to shift in
positions about 1 degree every 72 years. It takes 25,800 years to complete one wobble or cycle of precession. I may be mistaken as it has been about a
month since I last read about the subject but I believe a cycle of precession ends on December 21, 2012. Also on that day the sun lines up with the
center of the milky way and a dark rift will appear in the sky as a result. The Mayan people believe this rift to be Xibelbebe or the road to the
underworld.

It is my opinion that these two events coupled with the end of the long count calendar (as mentioned before this takes 5,125.36 years) give a large
amount of credibility to the Mayan prophecy. Many compare this to Y2K however I believe this to be a much more serious "end of the world" scenario
as there is a great deal of scientific research to back it.

Originally posted by Lecky
I was looking at that site, and on the first page if you scroll down you see a "photo of Asket in a spaceship"...she is supposed to be one of these
"cosmic people". I also noticed that Asket wears quite a bit of eye makeup.

I don't know why, but I have a hard time imagining these people getting ready in the morning putting on their make up just like we ladies do on
earth. That picture looks like it was taken from some cheesy 70's sci-fi movie.

This is my first time checking out the site, LOL, not sure why I noticed her make-up...wonder what brand she wears

TOUCE!!!! (Is that how you spell that?)

I noticed the same thing. Also, the pictures of the actual matrix movie kind of made me wonder. And yes, I know they acknowledge that they are from
the movie, but it still looks bad.

And all the stuff about course vibrations.....I tried reading through a lot of material, and I found no definition of exactly what they are and WHY
these vibrations are bad. There are lots of things about dimensions and star fleets and vibrations without much explanation of how it all works.

Harak, I'm a little concerned for you that you are so accepting of these beings. All I ask is that you make SURE that they are genuine and not for
deceit. Remember, evil loves to put on a good mask, and it's good at it too. Just a warning, because I don't know for of course, and I don't
pretend to. Just be careful with this kind of thing.

But I'm sorry, all I read on these sites are confusions, mistaken, biased or "remixed"...

For example the name ASHTAR SHERAN is a confusion between the venus babylonian goddess ISHTAR and SHETAN the name of the satan in arab and hebrew.
Confidence : I'm not surprised to find satan behind an enterprise like that...

In a certain sense, yes, I can agree with you to tell that satan is the chief of reptilians err...he is described as the cosmic dragon in the book of
Apocalypse.

you are correct about Satan, as a reptilian, but you are wrong about Ashtar, althow if the "evil" is trying to twist and use Ashtar messages at the
present, that it is another story. but even that it's not enoght to atest Ashtar is something Diabolic.
but your theory it is not crazy at all! it is racional and inteligent.
i have red many Ashtar docs provided in the site for free, and i know that in that texts are truths and lies, but in the internet how can we expect
to read just the truth, if there are so many others trying to hide it!?

Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS
Yes, but I must warn you of something really important. The cosmic traveller always fly alone. If he come with an army of spaceships and
dudes...it's an invader !

Notice that Joan Of Arc was a sheperd and I believe that she received a message from the cosmic messenger...

[edit on 12-8-2004 by Nans DESMICHELS]

yes, you are absolute right friend, he is a invader, because he is, or he will invade the evil that it is "annoying" us.
and he fly alone. he is just the "commander", he is not in that fleet. he don't need's that. he don't fly with them,we must see him just like
the "logistic director"!
yes, fully agree with the Sait and Joana. 100%true.

For example the name ASHTAR SHERAN is a confusion between the venus babylonian goddess ISHTAR and SHETAN the name of the satan in arab and hebrew.
In a certain sense, yes, I can agree with you to tell that satan is the chief of reptilians err...he is described as the cosmic dragon in the book of
Apocalypse.

Originally posted by TheBandit795And I don't believe in that new agey Ashtar command nonsense... They said that people were going to
dissapear (ascend) a few years ago. No one did.

What may be nonsence to you, could be extremly important to others...

The Ashtar Command is present everywhere. In and over the Earth’s atmosphere, there are thousands and thousands of space ships, of course, the
majority at an invisible level. Its function is to watch over the planet and its inhabitants, to be attentive to any fault or danger and if we are
invoked, to intervene quickly in an impersonal manner, since our mission of Love is to help.

There is nothing wrong to love and care, no one is asking anything from us...They only ask to LOVE...I don't think it could harm anyone...
Of course...People can't or won't "believe" in Ashtar command...BUT they can believe in love! That's what count, not the Ashtar spaceships...The
message behind something could be more important then the one who brings the message...

Be carefull here.
The unseen world and it's inhabitants may have more influence on your life than you think/want. Don't pray to a being you have not fully identified,
as you are opening doors for them to come into your life, and mess things up.

[Christian] Only through Jesus, and by accepting his sacrafice on the cross, we can pray to God, prayers directed towards anything else are both
dangerous and foolish, as they can be used by demons to claim influence over areas in your life. [/Christian]

Originally posted by Jakko
Be carefull here.
The unseen world and it's inhabitants may have more influence on your life than you think/want. Don't pray to a being you have not fully identified,
as you are opening doors for them to come into your life, and mess things up.

[Christian] Only through Jesus, and by accepting his sacrafice on the cross, we can pray to God, prayers directed towards anything else are both
dangerous and foolish, as they can be used by demons to claim influence over areas in your life. [/Christian]

[edit on 13-8-2004 by Jakko]

Who said it was a unseen world to ME? Who said that I did not fully identified this being?

About Master Jesus; you are totaly right, but do you have any idea who "God" is?
God created all...even evil...But to us...Who is God?
Is it not possible that we were created by an alien race?
Knowing that God created all, also those aliens...yea...then you could say God created us...But God created life in the first place...couldn't it be
possible that we were created by beings that were also created by God?
Imagine...a human clones another human succesfull...Now...Is that human that created that clone a God or a creator...or...?

[off topic] God did not create evil, God created free will, which led to evil, there's quite a large difference [/off topic]

I know you have not fully identified it, because humans can not grasp being from the unseen world in such a way. There's no way for us to check
anything these beings tell us, and wether their motivation to tell us anything is good or bad.

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