Hey guys, just wanted to share a tip thats been on the nation's dye forums for years now and i thought id pass it on to you guys. ive been using this site for years and i've yet to have a complaint.

if you want to build massive o-ring kits for your guns, go to the website www.mcmaster.com, and order your orings in bulk for the same price as a 10x rebuild kit.its not as straight forward as it could be, since its extremely detailed, but once you know what to look for, youll be set.

2. When the page loads up, youre going to want to scroll down until you see the section for "Sealing". Click "o-rings".

3. Then click on the box that says "Buna-N O-Rings"

4. A side bar will come up, at the top click O-Rings

5. Scroll down on the side bar and click -"Round" for cross section-"70 A" for Durometer-"Buna-N" for material

6. Then scroll up on the side bar to ""AS568A Dash Number" where you can select your O-Ring sizes. Check your marker's manual for specific sizes. Here I used 011 as an example.

7. Then the window changes, there will be two blue links/numbers. Click the top one.

8. Next you need to select the number of packs you want, they come in packs of 100 so one pack will be enough.. Unless you have an O-Ring fetish..

9. Click add to order, and repeat for all the other O-Rings you need.

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The orings come in clearly marked plastic bags. just go to wal-mart and pick up a $2.00 tackle box and youll be set with a 100X rebuild kit!hope this helps everyone!

**** i should note that Urethane orings(the clear ones) that are found in some guns are fairly pricy, and since i dont personally order them from here, i didnt include them.**** feel free to order them from this site, just note that urethane orings are not made of Buna-N(hopefully thats obvious) and the typical Durometer is "Shore A: 90" and not 70.

here you go guys.

the orings come in marked bags just like i said. they came to me in a padded envelope, but i didnt really bother including it.the packing slip also labels the plastic bags they come in, so there should be any fear of getting the sizes confused.

combine the orings with a tackle box from walmart and some time in photoshop and you have a pretty functional tech kit-front cover- an oring sizer (yes, that is oring monkey's oring sizer chart, i feel bad for removing their logos, but i didnt exactly have all the room in the world.)inside cover- just some quick reference stuff for my DM. has which orings go where in the gun. also has some quick settings for my virtue board.

Maybe we need a new thread, that's linked in the OP, that's got a list of markers, and which sizes the o-rings are? Everybody could do the research on their marker, and then post up in the thread as to which marker they have, and what size o-rings are needed.

Heres a question though, are the standard cheapest ones any weaker compared to oringmonkey or ansgear which use milspec grade orings?

ive been using these orings in all of my DM's since my first dm4 ages ago. ive never once had any problems with them.i personally couldnt compare mil spec orings with these, but from my experience i doubt these will be any worse.

also, if anyone is actually concerned they do have military spec orings. they are double the cost for half as much. im sure youll still come out ahead if you bought them though.

Maybe we need a new thread, that's linked in the OP, that's got a list of markers, and which sizes the o-rings are? Everybody could do the research on their marker, and then post up in the thread as to which marker they have, and what size o-rings are needed.

you can specify that you want MIL-spec o-rings, it's just it's like $8/50 o-rings.

yep, thats what i saw as well.i should also add, that if anyone is adamant about getting military spec orings, save yourself some cash by only ordering them for orings that will actually move.personally, i think the concept of "mil-spec orings" is a little gimmicky when referring to paintball guns, but even if they do offer benefits, im certain those benefits will be pointless for a static oring that wont move.

im assuming those were urethane orings or they aren't standard, non-rated orings?like i said, i dont order urethane orings from them since they are so expensive to begin with.

most urethane orings either- A.) almost never go badB.) can be bummed from your local shop for a dollar or twoC.) can be replaced with Buna-N orings (although it might be a good idea to order a higher shore rating than the standard 70)

McMaster-Carr is a fantastic company. That's where I order my Dow 55 and Triflow from. I ordered it one night after 5 pm and had it the next day, all for under $40. Granted I'm 60 miles away from the warehouse in Chicago, but still amazingly quick for UPS Ground. I actually use them all the time at work, but I never thought about ordering o-rings from them. Guess I'll be making another order really soon!

respond email from the company Thank you for your order. Unfortunately, due to the ever increasing complexity of United States export regulations, McMaster-Carr will only process orders from a few long-established customers in Canada. We sincerely regret any inconvenience this causes you.

Any one one would like to place my order and ship it out to a follow player?????????????

respond email from the company Thank you for your order. Unfortunately, due to the ever increasing complexity of United States export regulations, McMaster-Carr will only process orders from a few long-established customers in Canada. We sincerely regret any inconvenience this causes you.

Any one one would like to place my order and ship it out to a follow player?????????????

I'll be putting an order in later this week for some stuff if you want me to throw your items on there.

As for the thread, yep McMaster is a good site been ordering from them for years. Usually only takes 1-2 days to get to me from Ohio.

But the site is a little buggy on some items, when you use their "guided search" type thing. Sometimes they won't give you the option you are looking for, so you might need to go back and try a different sequence.

Overall a good site to know about:

Springs, bolts, orings, macro, fittings and lubricants all in one place.

you can specify that you want MIL-spec o-rings, it's just it's like $8/50 o-rings.

yep, thats what i saw as well.i should also add, that if anyone is adamant about getting military spec orings, save yourself some cash by only ordering them for orings that will actually move.personally, i think the concept of "mil-spec orings" is a little gimmicky when referring to paintball guns, but even if they do offer benefits, im certain those benefits will be pointless for a static oring that wont move.

great find.. i was about to pull the trigger on a DM10 o-ring kit from ansgear.

milspec vs. reg... reg. is so cheap.. you can replace them after a day's play and still have better value than using "mil-spec" o-rings. will be putting together a DM10 kit real soon.

respond email from the company Thank you for your order. Unfortunately, due to the ever increasing complexity of United States export regulations, McMaster-Carr will only process orders from a few long-established customers in Canada. We sincerely regret any inconvenience this causes you.

Any one one would like to place my order and ship it out to a follow player?????????????

I'll be putting an order in later this week for some stuff if you want me to throw your items on there.

As for the thread, yep McMaster is a good site been ordering from them for years. Usually only takes 1-2 days to get to me from Ohio.

But the site is a little buggy on some items, when you use their "guided search" type thing. Sometimes they won't give you the option you are looking for, so you might need to go back and try a different sequence.

Overall a good site to know about:

Springs, bolts, orings, macro, fittings and lubricants all in one place.

Thanks, I actually a local shop in Toronto.

Going to that shop 2mrw if the price is a huge different i'll msg you to take my order

the orings come in marked bags just like i said. they came to me in a padded envelope, but i didnt really bother including it.the packing slip also labels the plastic bags they come in, so there should be any fear of getting the sizes confused.

combine the orings with a tackle box from walmart and some time in photoshop and you have a pretty functional tech kit-front cover- an oring sizer (yes, that is oring monkey's oring sizer chart, i feel bad for removing their logos, but i didnt exactly have all the room in the world.)inside cover- just some quick reference stuff for my DM. has which orings go where in the gun. also has some quick settings for my virtue board.

i dont list them because theyre so expensive.those orings hardly ever go bad to begin with, and then spending the ~$8 for the pack just doesnt seem worth it to me.im looking into replacing the UR orings with shore90 Buna-N orings.

i dont list them because theyre so expensive.those orings hardly ever go bad to begin with, and then spending the ~$8 for the pack just doesnt seem worth it to me.im looking into replacing the UR orings with shore90 Buna-N orings.

hehe.. yah i just saw your thread asking this on the "other" forum. you're right, I'll probably sell the marker before those o-rings go bad.

i dont list them because theyre so expensive.those orings hardly ever go bad to begin with, and then spending the ~$8 for the pack just doesnt seem worth it to me.im looking into replacing the UR orings with shore90 Buna-N orings.

hehe.. yah i just saw your thread asking this on the "other" forum. you're right, I'll probably sell the marker before those o-rings go bad.

Yep, turns out its perfectly fine to replace UR orings with Buna-N's in dye regs.ordering them now

i dont know if its looked down upon... but can we sticky this thread? haha