Mike_LowELL:Grand_Moff_Joseph: OK, GOP shills, you thought defending the NRA was tough? Try talking your way out of THIS.

You're absolutely disgusting and I'm not even going to acknowledge your existence. Why would I even bother acknowledging someone who wants me to "talk my way" out of the Tennessee Home for Injured Soldiers? They do an incredible service for our veterans. Go drink some overpriced coffee, you stupid lib.

Damn, the troll thinks of stuff more hurtful to say than the true believers.

syrynxx:A key element of victory is surprise. So what could be more surprising than the 1st Battallion female Eskimo Hispanic dwarf cross-dresser handicapable transgendered breast-cancer-survivor Brigade?

alienated:syrynxx: A key element of victory is surprise. So what could be more surprising than the 1st Battallion female Eskimo Hispanic dwarf cross-dresser handicapable transgendered breast-cancer-survivor Brigade?

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Eddie is a transvesite. Not a transgender. He just likes the cloithes, shoes and makeup. And the hair removal. In other words- he is just a basic masochist. not that there is anything wrong with that.

Mike_LowELL:Grand_Moff_Joseph: OK, GOP shills, you thought defending the NRA was tough? Try talking your way out of THIS.

You're absolutely disgusting and I'm not even going to acknowledge your existence. Why would I even bother acknowledging someone who wants me to "talk my way" out of the Tennessee Home for Injured Soldiers? They do an incredible service for our veterans. Go drink some overpriced coffee, you stupid lib.

Yeesh, a little harsh there, Mikey. It was nearly 1am when you posted that - weren't you up past your bedtime?

Macular Degenerate:syrynxx: A key element of victory is surprise. So what could be more surprising than the 1st Battallion female Eskimo Hispanic dwarf cross-dresser handicapable transgendered breast-cancer-survivor Brigade?

I only support female troops if they don't increase the logistics tail of the effort. When suddenly you need dig an extra set of latrines at the forward fire base and erect another bunkhouse for the women, fark that. If we're talking Starship Troopers movie style where everyone uses the same resources, meh.

The other concern is that the first two females who tried to complete the USMC training for infantry officer both dropped out due to physical limitations. The command structure really want some female officers though so they can appear progressive and there are concerns they'll just nerf the standards for the next batch.

Other countries have had success with female combat troops, the question is if America will implement it in an efficient way or just do quotas. Personally I'd say to start off, any female who wants to do front line work should end up in a role similar to the one the females in the 707 White Tigers play. The women are sent in because terrorists and the like much less likely to see the woman as a threat. I'm less sold on the idea of just making every infantry company 1% to 10% female and upping their logistics tail as a result.

Monkeyfark Ridiculous:doglover: RodneyToady: The My Little Pony Killer: War is the act of killing each other. And to win, you have to kill people faster than the other team.

See, I think he's wrong even in this point. War's not simply about killing. There's strategy to it. Your side can lose a thousand, and their side 200. If their 200 is the top command structure, and your 1000 are low-level soldiers, you're probably much closer to winning than they are.

A Chinese general said something to that effect.

"I can lose 100 to your one and still win." or something like that. It's true, too. If Iraq was the size of the US, we'd have lost.

You're probably thinking of Ho Chi Minh's boast to the effect that he'd outlast the US despite a 10:1 casualty rate.

Sun Tzu notes that the ideal is to achieve victory without fighting at all. Quite a lot of his little book seems to be aimed at correcting the sort of dumbass who thinks that war is about which "team" can rack up kills faster.

Uncle Ho said "You will kill 10 of our men, and we will kill 1 of yours, and in the end it will be you who tire of it" Basically meaning they were the home "team" (in Glenn's little world) and something to fight for.

Sun Tzu understood war. He was, and still is, an all around badass, He trained Sun Wu's concubines for fighting on the front line. Sure he killed two of them but that was to make a point. when the orders are clear but not followed, the officers are at fault. So Sun Tzu ordered the women's commanders, the king's two favorite concubines, beheaded. The remaining women obeyed the orders precisely.

The first principle of war is deception, not to kill. This is why 2500 years later people are still reading the Art of War. Uncle Glenn will be a mere fascist shiat stain on history noted for ripping off Lewis Prothero.

I alone am best:doglover: RodneyToady: The My Little Pony Killer: War is the act of killing each other. And to win, you have to kill people faster than the other team.

See, I think he's wrong even in this point. War's not simply about killing. There's strategy to it. Your side can lose a thousand, and their side 200. If their 200 is the top command structure, and your 1000 are low-level soldiers, you're probably much closer to winning than they are.

A Chinese general said something to that effect.

"I can lose 100 to your one and still win." or something like that. It's true, too. If Iraq was the size of the US, we'd have lost.

Why is that?

Only 1% or less of American are in the military. We're extremely vulnerable in the civilian arena because that's 99% of the population. You can't beat an aircraft carrier with a stick of dynamite and some nails, but you can beat a bunch of mothers by killing or maiming one of their sons. Beat enough mothers and they vote for the guy who's gonna pull that aircraft carrier out.

We barely managed to do anything useful in the public's eyes except kill people in Iraq with 35 million people to deal with. 10 times that number? Not to mention their military was 375,000 strong. That's 10% of the population for them. If they were ten times as big that'd have been 3,750,000 people. Even if they all surrendered it would have overwhelmed our guys with paperwork and flooded the nation with ownerless assault rifles and a shiat ton more bullets and shells for IEDs and such much more than there were.

Not to mention size. It cost us several gold mines just to pacify the major parts of Iraq and re-purpose their military to bring the country under control. If they were as big as we are, that's a lot more travel, a lot more work, and a lot more money. You can break the Pentagon's will only by eliminating the entire chain of command from the top down, even then one crazy vet will always be left somewhere to start the fight anew. But you can break a Senator's will simply by being a persistent and expensive budget item. We barely got the go ahead from the house to do the Iraq war we did fight. Imagine one with quadruple the cost in resources and manpower to persecute would go over like a turd in a punchbowl.

The enemy's not going to cower in defeat because we have a female Eskimo Hispanic dwarf cross-dresser and some handicapable, transgendered breast cancer survivor as a soldier on the front line, ready to unleash an attack of unparalleled diversity

He earned $80 million last year from people who pay to hear his opinion.

True, but how many people does that actually represent? In a nation of 300 million it isn't that hard to find a few hundred thousand rubes to fleece, especially now that we have the internet. Being able to do that doesn't mean you're not a nonentity on the lunatic fringe.

Karac:Glenn Beck is partly right: the US can be ably defended only by male, gun and freedom loving penis-holders such as this:[thinkprogress.org image 453x646]

On the other hand, he is partly wrong: "This is the dumbest idea I ever heard. Women now fight on the front lines?". Which is dumb, because apparently he never noticed this, or never considered it a problem, in the 7 years or so of the last administration when the same thing occurred.

Any objection these idiots have to women serving in combat can be disproven by simply looking at the recent history of American women serving in combat.

I would ask why the Nuge is holding a women's gun, but I'm afraid I already know the answer to that.

What about the Nazi Lesbian Hookers kidnapped by UFO's and forced into weight loss programs? I remember seeing a Town Talk With George teaser on that subject, but as far as I know, the episode never aired :-P

We'll take 10,000 men and 10,000 weapon. Both sides get all the same equipment, supplies, and training.

Let's start a war... at the ga... kidding.

The women are going to lose horribly. Yes they are. Yes. They. Are. That's not sexist. That's not underestimating women. That's just how things are. If the contest involves fighting, the men are going to win in a contest against women. This is his point. War is about killing people and breaking things, and whoever does it the best wins... Period. This is the same reason men are far more likely to commit violent crimes than women too.

When lives are at risk, and they always are during war, diversity and equality get to take a back seat to reality. If you want women in combat roles, that's perfectly fine, I'm not against that but you will have to accept everything that goes along with that whether you like it or not,