“Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.”
― Thomas Paine

Friday, October 12, 2012

The VP Debate and Other Things

Joe Biden, What The Hell?

It doesn't matter which side you are on or what you believe or where your political ideologies lie. Vice President Joe Biden's antics in last night's Vice Presidential Debate were rude, condescending and made a mockery of the debate.

Regardless of what he was saying or trying to do or what his opponent, Republican Congressman Paul Ryan was trying to say, it was disgraceful for Vice President Biden to continue his smirking and laughing act throughout most of the debate.

It was disrespectful to his opponent, disrespectful to the debate, and worst of all disrespectful to the people who were watching hoping to make decisions based on the participants.

What the hell is so funny Mr. Vice President??

It didn't take long for the Republicans to take advantage of Biden's antics:

Here's an exchange from last night's debate where Biden not only was rude and disrespectful to Ryan, but in fact was wrong:

THe VP Ryan: Republicans and Democrats have worked together
on this. I understand you guys aren't used to bipartisan deals.

Here's three quotes from President Kennedy addressing congress about that very subject:

“Lower
rates of taxation will stimulate economic activity and so raise the levels of
personal and corporate income as to yield within a few years an increased – not
a reduced – flow of revenues to the federal government.”

“In
today’s economy, fiscal prudence and responsibility call for tax reduction even
if it temporarily enlarges the federal deficit – why reducing taxes is the best
way open to us to increase revenues.”

– John F. Kennedy, Jan. 21, 1963, annual message to the
Congress: “The Economic Report Of The President”“It is no
contradiction – the most important single thing we can do to stimulate
investment in today’s economy is to raise consumption by major reduction of
individual income tax rates.”

This led to the Revenue Act of 1964 which was passed by Congress. Of course JFK was assassinated on November 22, 1963, the bill was passed after his death.

Joe Biden was wrong.

Couldn't Have Said It Better

Comments in a local newspaper about a Massachusetts Congressional debate between incumbent Niki Tsongas and challenger Jon Golnik:

VeryOldSoldier

Last night was absolute proof of how detached and out-or-touch Niki Tsongas is.
She 'absolutely' believes we're all better off than 4 years ago! [She clearly isn't balancing my checkbook or doing my grocery shopping!]
She stands fully behind all her Pelosi-directed votes – 100%! Essentially that means that San Francisco has two (2) votes in Congress, - we have NONE!
She recited almost verbatim all of Obama's class-warfare language about super-taxing the 'richest 2%' - totally ignoring who creates the jobs and who provides the financing for new business ventures.
Like Obama, she's still blaming Bush – for durn near everything. Her solution to most everything is another government program, - or at least 'a public-private partnership'. In fact she is still defending the BILLIONS Obama squandered on phony 'green' companies like Solyendra.
And she's still content with the $716 Billion ObamaCare guts from Medicare.
It's too bad so many are fooled by her 'kindly grandmother' act. I thought Golnik went way too easy on her.

VeryYoungProgressive

So you're telling me that Tsongas hasn't done much for her district and the people she represents? You're telling me that the Greater Lowell Area isn't better off than they were 4 years ago? No infrastructural improvements, no new businesses coming into the area, no improvements in the Lowell Area, no highway improvements going on? Tell me, what would Golnik do for me? For my city? For my district? It seems like he would just reverse the course of a progressive district. And if you believe the lies about $716Bil being gutted from Medicare, you must be 1 of 2 things, very old or very gullible.

VeryOldSoldier

'Government' is NOT SUPPOSED to 'do things for you'.
As outlined in our Constitution [that old document you Progressives hate] the primary job of government is to defend us from foreign and domestic enemies.
Add to that keeping treaty relations intact, keeping the courts running and staffed with honorable judges, and running the necessary prison systems.
Try reading Article I and II sometime soon.
Contrary to current Progressive Mythology, it is NOT the function of the Federal Government to house, feed, clothe, medicate, or educate you. Nor are you entitled to a cell phone or an EBT card.
If the good taxpaying citizens of Lowell decide they need a new road or a new bridge, - they should vote on it and find a way to pay for it – themselves. Roads in Lowell are NOT a federal responsibility.
We wish you many happy hours studying American History and the Constitution. When you've graduated, we hope you can find a job. Nobody will pay you for blogging comments on the Sun.

Well done VeryOldSoldier!

Debbie Wasserman Schultz Has a Future as a Saturday Night Live Character

Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Wasserman Schultz has been on a roll lately this election season dancing with the truth and stepping on its toes. Here she is telling yet another whopper with CNN's Piers Morgan.

Transcript:

Piers Morgan, CNN: The really important horse that should be flogged is the behavior and the statements of those who are in positions of responsibility and we would assume knowledge. And it's pretty unAmerican, pretty unAmerican to be putting up completely false statements before you know the facts, isn't it?

Debbie Wasserman Schultz, DNC Chair: Piers, it is not okay for you to be saying that the administration was putting out completely false statements. They put out information that they had at the time based on the intelligence that they were given --

Piers Morgan: That turned out to be completely wrong.

Wasserman Schultz: Well that doesn't mean it was false. It doesn't mean that it was deliberate. It means that.

Morgan: What?! Now wait a minute. If you put out a false statement, then it's false, it's wrong. It's both of those things.

Wasserman Schultz: But you're suggesting that it's … Piers, what you're suggesting is that it was somehow deliberate. It was not deliberate. What they did was it was important to get information out that they had at the time. And they did that. And as they learned more information, they corrected the original information that they put out. But there was nothing sinister here. This was simply the president of the United States and the administration making sure that we did a careful investigation, gave the American people the information that they needed at the time that we had based on our best intelligence and then as more intelligence was gathered we gave the updated information. There is nothing sinister about that.

What's terrible unfortunate though, is that you do -- there's no around these investigations that Republicans in Congress and Mitt Romney have left to go after the administration questioning whether or not there was any deliberate attempt to mislead. We should be closing ranks, working together to prevent this from happening again.

Morgan: Well the answer to that Debbie, is -- the answer to that is to make sure that the original statements that were made are accurate.

So it's ok to spew anything out and if it's dead wrong and "Well, that's what we had to go on at the time" is a good excuse???Hmmm, the "official" explanation of the attack on the American Consulate in Benghazi was a protest over a YouTube video, when there were no protests and the ambassador asked for and was refused help several times and was eventually murdered.In Wasserman Schultz's world, it's ok to say that it was the result of a protest (that didn't happen) boiling over where four Americans just happened to be attacked with advanced weapons. Doesn't matter that protesters usually don't carry RPGs and such.That's all they had to go on at the time.If you listened to Joe Biden last night, once again, he was wrong and claimed they didn't ask for help then tried to play it off like it was no big deal.