Comentario de Qroth

Not if you're after mastery.

Comentario de Unsurper

I find the itemization kind of odd on all of the token gear, fundamentally dodge is what palidans are after and parry is what warriors are after for hold the line proc, and it seems like all the vendor gear is itemized for palidans whith an abundance of dodge and dps/threat stats like either hit or expertise, hit no longer matters as much as it used to all of our taunts are no miss chance now...expertise is good for threat but threat is not really an isue with proper spec and rotation.

I sit here scratching my head when thinking about what pices to use my tokens for, although some of my curretn gear is ilvl 333 it has a lot of parry, much more then these so called upgrades even with gems and reforging.....reminds me a lot of how they purposely nerfed the hell out of fury who uses haste and made arms the primary pve spec and all gear has haste which is useless to arms....itemization is backwards and makes little sence.....upgrades are on that in ilvl only and actually hurts dps output compared to lower ilvl gear.

Comentario de Unsurper

I find the itemization kind of odd on all of the token gear, fundamentally dodge is what palidans are after and parry is what warriors are after for hold the line proc, and it seems like all the vendor gear is itemized for palidans whith an abundance of dodge and dps/threat stats like either hit or expertise, hit no longer matters as much as it used to all of our taunts are no miss chance now...expertise is good for threat but threat is not really an isue with proper spec and rotation.

I sit here scratching my head when thinking about what pices to use my tokens for, although some of my curretn gear is ilvl 333 it has a lot of parry, much more then these so called upgrades even with gems and reforging.....reminds me a lot of how they purposely nerfed the hell out of fury who uses haste and made arms the primary pve spec and all gear has haste which is useless to arms....itemization is backwards and makes little sence.....upgrades are on that in ilvl only and actually hurts dps output compared to lower ilvl gear.

Comentario de Connane

This like most gear is almost identical in stats for most tanking heroic gear. In fact i recommend just farming heroics and you'll get a full set of gear good enough for raids and then you can just spend your justice points on other items like herilooms. (this happened to me i finally got enough jp to get an item and i found out the item i got from heroics was almost identical)

Comentario de Muspel

For both paladins and warriors, math shows that it's better to keep your dodge and parry ratings as close as possible to minimize harsh diminishing returns.

And since strength converts to parry rating, you'll generally want a few more pieces of gear with dodge than with parry.

Comentario de Muspel

For both paladins and warriors, math shows that it's better to keep your dodge and parry ratings as close as possible to minimize harsh diminishing returns.

And since strength converts to parry rating, you'll generally want a few more pieces of gear with dodge than with parry.

Comentario de Muspel

For warriors, paladins, and DKs, math shows that it's better to keep your dodge and parry ratings as close as possible to minimize harsh diminishing returns.

And since strength converts to parry rating, you'll generally want a few more pieces of gear with dodge than with parry.

As a result, this chestpiece is pre-raid BiS for plate tanks.

EDIT: As of 4.2, you're better off with the T11 chestpiece.

Comentario de JamesThePaladin

I like to think that this is named after Hurin the Steadfast from The Silmarillion and The Children of Hurin by J.R.R. Tolkien.

Last of all Hurin stood alone. Then he cast aside his shield, and seized the axe of an orc-captain and wielded it two-handed; and it is sung that the axe smoked in the black blood of the troll-guard of Gothmog until it withered, and each time he slew Hurin cried aloud: "Aure entuluva! Day shall come again!" Seventy times he uttered that cry; but they took him at last alive, by the command of Morgoth, who thought thus to do him more evil than by death. Therefore the Orcs grappled Hurin with their hands, which clung to him still, though he hewed off their arms; and ever their numbers were renewed, till he fell buried beneath them. Then Gothmog bound him and dragged him to Angband with mockery.

Therefore Hurin was brought before Morgoth, for Morgoth knew by his arts and his spies that Hurin had the friendship of the King;and he sought to daunt him with his eyes. But Hurin could yet be daunted, and he defied Morgoth. Therefore Morgoth had him chained and set in slow torment; but after a while he came to him, and offered him his choice to go free whither he would, or to receive power and rank as the greatest of Morgoth's captains, if he would but reveal where Turgon had his stronghold, and aught else that he knew of the King's counsels. But Hurin the Steadfast mocked him, saying: "Blind you are, Morgoth Bauglir, and blind shall ever be, seeing only the dark. You know not what rules the hearts of Men, and if you knew you could not give it. But a fool is he would accepts what Morgoth offers. You will take first the price and then withould the promise; and I should get only death, if I told you what you ask."

Comentario de Catriona

The real question is what shirt to wear with it so it doesn't look so ridiculous. I can't find anything to match the colour on the inside. Why did they give it that ripped off sleeves look?

Comentario de JamesThePaladin

I wear it with Sawbones Shirt from Scholomance. The dark red fits with the conquest tank plate set reasonably well.

Comentario de Takata

Is there any point in getting this now that we can get, for the same amount of justice points?