Why “ Fair Russia “ searches justice?

the head the Press - the newspaper centre “ “ N.Andrushchenko`s political observer:

- the Publishing house “ “ greets at itself on a visit deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation of Alexander Lebedev and Andrey Samoshina. a subject today`s a press - conferences “ War of billboards in Moscow and other cities of Russia. Who and why discriminates party “ Fair Russia “ in placing of evident propaganda on external boards “.

A.Lebedev:

- Here about what we wanted to tell. You, probably, all read discussion on pages of newspapers between FAS and the Central Electoral Commission concerning that, can or not parties during the period between directly month when elections appear can, to use outdoor advertising. We have decided it to check up, as within a month the city enjoyed hundreds billboards with party images “ Civil force “. And, besides “ Young guards “ - the known youth organisation “ an United Russia “.

By the way, all these billboards on - former are in streets. As to us, we have made simple enough thing. Took from the party program any basic slogans. In activity “ Fair Russia “ they are base. Well, for example, “ the Country without drugs “ or “ Roads without stoppers, officials without flashers “.

We really expect to try till the end of this State Duma absolutely to forbid spetssignaly. Besides, there are texts which concern “ we Will clean from a city gambling institutions “ and so on. It is our traditional policy and a traditional position which directly is not connected with that month when elections will be declared.

Nevertheless, our posters have hung on city streets of all some days then Management on city outdoor advertising, referring in this case to position FAS and the Central Electoral Commission though the position is discussed, have ordered till 9 mornings 9 - go numbers all posters to remove.

Accordingly we pay attention on two parties. The first. How parties can conduct political activity and keep in touch with the citizen, I do not speak - with the voter, with the citizen except as through mass media which number outdoor advertising means concern also? Accordingly we pay attention to the Law on political parties, on the Constitution and so on.

the Second. Why one parties can hang out propaganda … not advertising, I once again underline, what it is everyday party activity, and others - are not present?

Why they can communicate through outdoor advertising means with citizens? For example, to explain to them for what they exist as they are called, what their symbolics. And on a broader scale, what for they, parties, are necessary, except as for such activity.

And the second aspect. Certainly, here it is obvious any grey zone in the legislation. It is necessary to find out it. I have signed today deputy inquiries and en face, and in the Central Electoral Commission. I think that party “ Fair Russia “ anyway, us of the central body of party have assured that in the same way will arrive. A similar situation at party in Kursk. Therefore and the representative of Kursk should be here.

As far as I know, party “ Fair Russia “ It is going to be converted also into Office of Public Prosecutor concerning current legislation observance.

the Second aspect is connected with me. My activity in a city as - that is identified with struggle against gambling institutions, spetssignalami, stoppers, dot building and so on. But I consider that it again on the given poster. Nevertheless, I have a suspicion that, maybe, the interdiction is connected first of all with me. To be convinced, so it or not, we have suggested two owners of advertising surfaces money not to return, and to place book advertising “ the Diagnosis - 2 “ which is ready and soon will appear. Nevertheless, we too were refused. Then there are two aspects that, most likely, it is the Moscow authorities really prepare for November elections, knowing that the mayor will lead the list of one party, and I, probably if I will be confirmed by congress, will head the list another on the city of Moscow. But anyway and the second looks extremely ugly, from my point of view. It should be found out in any image.

But the sufficient proof for me that on a broader scale even is impossible Lebedev`s portraits if it advertises the book.

N.Andrushchenko:

- Alexander Evgenevich, I remember, couple of years there was such history when the loving husband has placed a portrait of the wife in all streets of Moscow ago.

A.Lebedev:

- the Senator well-known?

N.Andrushchenko:

- Yes. So all it was lovely and good. It is possible and now? And Lebedev`s portrait - is impossible. And than motivate agencies when refuse?

A.Lebedev:

- One of the largest agencies, has told to us that all billboards are sold. However on an agency site the information that 2 thousand surfaces is not occupied from them contains. Thus many agencies prefer not to refuse in writing so that there were no judicial prospects. As under the Law on advertising at the citizen is which - what rights to place those or other kinds of advertising.

for anybody not a secret that relations between the mayoralty and deputy Lebedev, and group “ Our capital “ are far from the cloudless. We have variety of proceedings. And today the next business in Basmanny Court is considered.

Yesterday we had to place in newspapers according to a sentence of court a refutation concerning variety a city problem. Perhaps, you read in “ the Businessman “ and in “ to the New newspaper “? Probably, taking into account that the mayor is going to head the list, and I am going to head other list, it would be strange, that the authorities of Moscow which have are more tremendous serious influence on the outdoor advertising market in a city, there were cases when as a result of any disputes they simply took down the own decision bearing surfaces, that`s all. Therefore, probably, is also self-censorship. I have faced it not the first time.

I Remember, in 2004 when I have published the book “ the Diagnosis “ it has been devoted the Moscow city problems and my participation in elections mayor, any shop in its city has disagreed to take, motivating it so, between us, that at them privileges, as a rule, are on buildings and premises. And consequently they would not want to have problems with the mayoralty.

Thus, my book has appeared in position of the dissident of Soviet period. However 20 thousand copies citizens have managed to take away in any image all and actively read. Therefore I also have written the book “ the Diagnosis - 2 “. We Will do without advertising. In this case any special sense to advertise the book is not present. I simply wanted to check up, a leah is an interdiction reaction that it is connected with deputy Lebedev. It seemed to me that is, time even cannot be advertised the book with my portrait. once again I come back to the beginning a press - conferences. All - taki party activity is absolutely not same, as activity of any separate deputy. Therefore it is connected first of all with party work. And we consider that it is impossible to limit parties during any period of time under the authority of everyday political activity.

Especially, if to remember, you for certain paid attention that the outdoor advertising was very actively applied, for example, on elections in March in Moscow Region. And everywhere it has been connected with party symbolics. For example, a portrait of the governor of the region and party symbolics.

On last elections also we saw portraits of the mayor which embraced or pressed a hand to separate deputies. This practice existed all these years. And it is strange, why suddenly right now it is necessary to forbid it. Besides I am not assured that the legislation is correctly read in this case FASom.

N.Andrushchenko:

- About it is more detailed. After all not city of Moscow, and such organisation as FAS, concerning an interdiction of outdoor advertising prior to the beginning of the propaganda period was the initiator.

A.Lebedev:

- If the party is the goods, let`s consider that the party advertises itself as the goods. Though it is silly enough treatment. But we cannot limit so essentially activity of political parties, without trampling on the Constitution and the rights of citizens. Because it already smells slightly on a broader scale of communistic time when all was impossible. And the party was only one. But if at us parties a little and they something differ from each other, in it all sense of multi-party system, thus, they conduct the daily work with citizens. explaining that they exist. as they look. What at them party symbolics. Against what they act. how they are going to achieve it.

N.Andrushchenko:

- That is you consider unconstitutional will lock FAS? And last arrangements with Central Electoral Commission FAS?

A.Lebedev:

- I Think that serious discussion between party, the Central Electoral Commission, FAS and the Moscow authorities is necessary. Anyway, I count on it. Not discussion between deputy Lebedev and the above-named authorities, officials and structures, and discussion between party “ Fair Russia “ and those subjects to whom management on outdoor advertising of the government of Moscow in this case refers.

N.Andrushchenko:

- On the other hand, you, probably, are right that it concerns only your portraits. Because after arrangements FAS and the Central Electoral Committee, driving this morning, I have seen a portrait of one of heroes “ Civil force “ and your portraits in a city it is not noticed.

A.Lebedev:

- Them have stuck on Sunday, in the night from Saturday to Sunday. Interesting, and if we here have hung up a portrait, say, someone from figures of the government what would be reaction? We will look. There is also a practice of use of a portrait of the president from the permission. By the way. It is interesting that on it the Central Electoral Committees and FAS - use of a portrait of the president with the permission of the president will tell. Too it is forbidden? What then it turns out? What can all party activity occur in our country only within one month of times in four years? Interesting restriction. Have arrived.

Artem Artem, a press - the secretary:

- This poster not in such kind has been placed. Agencies have demanded to clean from here the person in a cap. It was the first condition.

A.Lebedev:

- We have agreed with it. We will admit, yes. Though I not so understand, why here agencies see the latent sense. I it do not see. Simply it is any person.

A.Samoshin:

- The principle of multi-party system provides idea of competition, sorevnovatelnosti in political process. And in due time Soviet Union had many problems, in my opinion, only because there was one leading inerrant party. I am afraid that today we can come to similar result. If we have one correct, and it has already appeared, one correct big mighty party, and all the others become out of the law. And that today we discuss, bright acknowledgement of that here, there is one party, is someone who too more - less correct, and are wrong parties and wrong candidates, wrong deputies of the State Duma which is more useless to place the advertising on advertising surfaces of a city.

In my opinion, the result has been already historically designated. And we simply have no right to afford a similar way which conducts in anywhere.

And more one message. For today in territory of Moscow Region already more than forty territories on which citizens are ready to protect the interests up to that up in arms. We know territory Butovo, territory of Rechnik, Molzhaninovo, and such territories more than forty.

N.Andrushchenko:

- But armours there were not at citizens.

A.Samoshin:

- On a broader scale - that there stones already flied. A cobble-stone - the proletariat weapon. The sense consists that citizens in societies are very rigidly urged to gather independently, brigades to protect itself from officials.

Why it occurs? In my opinion, also because all - taki a media field in the city territory of Moscow, excuse, so it is very fine brushed. all are cleaned objectionable, television, we understand, how myself conducts for today, at all respect. Mass media - Moscow has more than 300 newspapers which directly cope from a city administration of Moscow. I mean local newspapers. We have a local regional television and so on. And all it very fine copes. And as a matter of fact, in my opinion, these two phenomena, on the one hand, many problems of a city which do not dare, and on the other hand, such rigid control over mass media is different sides of the same coin which is called inability of the city authorities today effectively, on a public field to solve social problems.

I am assured that it will be very difficult to solve generated by the mayoralty of Moscow a problem of dot building, a transport problem and so on. And in this sense Moscow becomes isolated in such field, it is possible when to tell only that is authorised, it is possible to do that is authorised, and all who with it do not agree, are outlawed. And here reaction and result of such position is visually shown.

Today it is the heaviest to get on any channels Moscow with other point of view. And advertising surfaces are precisely traced by the mayoralty. The city is not capable to discuss, if in open discussion and resorts to such measures. I think that as a whole and for the country it is very dangerous tendency because, as it is known, there where there is no bouquet of opinions, true where - that vanishes. Here I am absolutely solidary with Alexander Evgenevichem. And regional association of our party in Moscow in no way with it will not be reconciled.

We have sent the letter to the State Office of Public Prosecutor, en face, in the Central Electoral Commission. Also were converted to Sergey Mihajlovichu Mironov so that it as the chairman of the council of Federation has reacted to this situation. Because if we begin selective race if want, from such things, we understand, than it is all in due time comes to an end. Beginning from an administrative resource and finishing manipulations with counting of votes.

N.Andrushchenko:

- the President still otmashki has not given start.

A.Samoshin:

- the President has not given otmashku, and actually selective struggle - that has already begun. Therefore - that knowingly Yury Mihajlovich so reacts.

A.Lebedev:

- it is very important To me to be here exact in formulations. On a broader scale competition between political parties, namely about it was told by the president in last message to Federal meeting, there is all time, not only during that short period which it is considered to be officially elections.

the President has told that this very correct both necessary competition and rivalry which very much improves a society. I not precisely quote, but it has been told two months ago. Therefore, if suddenly the party right freely to extend the information on the activity and to propagandise the purposes and problems, I quote 26 - j the Federal law, obratite attention to a press - release, of course, this rough infringement of the Constitution, the rights of citizens and the rights of parties. And, probably, all - taki is a question of an unequal competition. I will remind that all - taki in one of our political parties of 70 governors. They always have access to any member of the government. And, of course, their administrative resource is enormous.

If in Moscow we speak about such situation, of course, follows, probably, to mister Minchuku, he/she is the chairman of committee on advertising, the information and registration of a city of Moscow, to show corresponding claims, both in judicial, and in a criminal order. I precisely will make it. Also I think that speech after all goes also about infringement of property rights, as billboards - business expensive.

I, to tell the truth, absolutely not big supporter of their use. Also would prefer money to spend from funds of parties, say, for buying apartments to the deceived shareholders. But, nevertheless, in this case it is a question of increase of recognition and an explanation to Muscovites that such party “ Fair Russia “. It is simply recently created. As a matter of fact that she offers on gambling institutions, on struggle against drugs, on accessible habitation, on an interdiction spetssignalov, on protection of the rights of motorists. And on this subject I also have suggested to use outdoor advertising means.

In essence we conducted usual party activity. And this activity should occur all time, it cannot be limited one month of times in four years. Certainly, there should be equal conditions of a competition. I will remind that the basic federal channel never shows “ Fair Russia “ and always shows other large party, I it will not name.

N.Andrushchenko:

- Federal channels show “ Fair Russia “.

A.Lebedev:

- Two show, TVTS never shows. And more one large - practically never shows. We have this statistics, we will present it in the near future. Same simple monitoring. Following the results of last eight months when the party is created, it is very easy to understand, how much time. On it, truth, it is possible to mind that show governors, show federal ministers. But, nevertheless, it is the fact that access to a teleether at us non-comparable. If we still have now a non-comparable access to outdoor advertising, how we will conduct on a broader scale activity both that competitiveness and rivalry to realise, which are praised by the president?

I answered recently this artful question. Party “ Fair Russia “ too it is countenanced by the Kremlin. Listen, very simply. It is bad to have one party in power. Normally to have two or three which replace each other. It is the usual system accepted in any civilised country. Therefore it is absolutely not a shame to me, if really the Kremlin treats kindly party “ Fair Russia “. Well, and fine, well and thank God. As we as citizens yet do not possess due level of political culture seriously to concern parties, to elections and on a broader scale to practise this business. We consider obviously all participants of political parties or the people, which any property interests thereupon, or necessarily any other mercenary interests. It is very regrettable. Therefore, if the Kremlin really wants to support a little or at least two parties in power, it is healthy.

Another matter that, probably, is questions which are solved at all by the Kremlin. We will tell, here this question is solved by the Moscow officials. And I think that they have referred is artificial on a certain discussion which is conducted by two bodies of the federal authority. By the way, this discussion obligatory is not. It actually is a simply certain dispute. The point in this dispute is not put. The federal legislation accurately says that parties can freely extend the information on the activity, propagandise the purposes and problems. And, of course, outdoor advertising means are typical for this activity. We cannot meet each of 145 million citizens every day. It is physically impossible, though we try. Also we will do it, of course.

N.Andrushchenko:

- two laws - the Law on advertising which protects FAS, and the Law on a referendum, the Law on party, constitutional the law, on which party of the Central Electoral Committees and FAS Have conflicted.

A.Lebedev:

- And a position of the Moscow authorities which prefer to treat them definitely.

A.Samoshin:

- the Position of the Moscow authorities has conflicted to the current legislation. It is obvious that the Moscow authorities will participate in quality of leaders during elections in other party. It not the big secret. I think that true here. Prove it I cannot, except for attempt to advertise approximately in the same format, but already without a logo “ Fair Russia “ simply innocent book. Well also that that it on the Moscow subject. After all on the poster it is not written, about what this book.

N.Andrushchenko:

- “ the Diagnosis “. Also put under it my signature.

“ “ Oleg Golovnev:

- you could not formulate very shortly that diagnosis which you put to the Moscow authorities in the new book?

A.Lebedev:

- the Book is devoted such questions of life of a megacity as transport strategy, the town-planning policy, family state partnership, the Moscow judicial system, mass media in a city, the city budget and a situation with the relation of Muscovites to gambling institutions and a position of the Moscow authorities on this subject. Anything new in this book is not present, in the sense that all it has been written by me for expired three years, told time and again on federal channels, during interview and meetings with the newspaper “ “. Therefore I am simple all it have collected in the separate book. Certainly, one thought simple is that it would be necessary to return direct elections to Muscovites, maybe, the federal law. We prepare such law. It is not obligatory to return governor`s elections, maybe, yet.

N.Andrushchenko:

- What diagnosis? The patient we will cure?

A.Lebedev:

- I even have on this subject a TV advertising where I represent the doctor, look a medical card in the form of a map of the city. Also I speak: “ About as all is started! Well, no trouble, there is a hope “. There is a recipe. It is necessary to change the form and ideology, I do not speak - people. I, for example, have separated a post of the mayor from a post of premieres - the minister. That the mayor could concentrate on strategic questions. The town-planning policy and transport strategy. And the prime minister - the minister would be that business executive to whom we have got used. Certainly, the Moscow City Council should be not 35 deputies, and 350 at least, really representing interests of various parties and citizens of Moscow. And body of control over the Moscow authorities.

I, of course, would return to municipalities real powers which have been selected. And already even these simple things allow to count on carrying out of other policy. Who will spend her, all is equal to me. I repeatedly underlined that I do not apply at all for this difficult, heavy and a little attractive post. It can be attractive from the material point of view. But I have no problems with a material prosperity. At me and expenses small. For the sake of it I never will go on such rasstrelnuju a post. As the infrastructure city is in monstrous position.

He/she is one more head. From liftovogo economy to a status of gas networks, from a status of inhabited and uninhabited fund to a status ulichno - a high system. It is all in the hardest position. And we understand, when the president in the message last Federal said to meeting that people live in slums, and trillion roubles on infrastructure upgrade, on its maintenance in a normal state is required, he meant, including, and Moscow. This chapter the most terrible. Actually to the following mayor you will not envy, whoever it was. I think that real powers on management of a city should be dispersed from hands of one person. And in addition to it I suggest to return in the book the federal law to elections of the mayor for our city.

N.Andrushchenko:

is there was an advertising of the book of Alexander Lebedev “ the Diagnosis - 2 “.

A.Lebedev:

- Thanks.

“ Political magazine “:

- a leah Except an actual interdiction for outdoor advertising you feel on yourselves of other forms of pressure as representatives “ Fair Russia “?

A.Lebedev:

- I would not name it pressure forms, but an inequality of possibilities in electronic mass media obviously. Absence of an administrative resource obviously. Judicial system. I will remind that all - taki the town governor never loses any courts. We with Andrey Anatolevichem vainly try to protect in Presnensky court interests of pensioners by so-called heavy trades. It is impossible, to us simply refuse acceptance of the claim from deputies of the State Duma. Recently we have been urged against it to appeal against in Moscow City Court. Anything beyond usual, inequalities of possibilities we here do not see. But besides to solve to voters. Many things are obvious and can work both in that, and in other party. I am not assured that such front interdiction for conducting usual political activity of usual political party “ Fair Russia “ is on a broader scale a correct course. If I am right that it is a course. On the threshold of the future election campaign.

“ Work “:

- This situation has developed only in Moscow and Kursk area. And how in other areas? And a leah means it, what exactly in the data regions the administrative resource is strongest? Concerning the law on streamlining of activity of gambling institutions. The law is accepted, operates, but, nevertheless, especially in Moscow, we see that gambling institutions did not become less, and it looks as redistribution of forces and the property. A leah it is possible to learn your opinion in this respect?

A.Lebedev:

- I Think, abundantly clear that in Moscow the administrative resource is not weaker, than in any other region, and is possible and is stronger. Owing to special special construction of system of executive power in a city, historically, it exists in such kind already more than 15 years. We have asked the central controls of party to request all other regions that occurs to outdoor advertising though I do not agree with this name. That occurs to activity of other parties within the limits of outdoor advertising in other regions. A leah on a broader scale is it? A leah is from the attempt authorities as - that it to influence? Precedent of Kursk and Moscow is used by someone or not? In the near future we will mean this fact. Because it is national history, it not city. As to gambling institutions, today in the morning I discussed with the assistants, in what buildings in Moscow within last three months new gambling institutions have opened. As it is a lot of data, I have asked to go round all these points: cafe “ Lel “ on the Ryazan prospectus, on Volgogradke, on Mira prospectus, the big slot machine arcade on the Ryazan prospectus, opened on July, 1st, in day which is specified in the federal law. We have counted a minimum three or four large points which are just opened. On all we will write deputy inquiries. And, of course, we will make it public. On the one hand, the Moscow authorities time explain to all of us that at them the quantity was reduced to 70 % something. Perhaps, at them these columns were reduced to 70 %, which stood in underground pedestrian crossings in dormitory areas. Perhaps, I do not know. It should be asked at townspeople. And who supervises conformity to new requirements? The area, quantity of automatic machines and the authorised capital Means. I do not know, probably large networks on an authorised capital stock easily pass. But unless we for it struggled? That at us new slot machine arcades, only big, opened? In it, it appears, and sense of the federal law accepted by the State Duma. That their quantity, maybe, became less, but on volume, on scale, by quantity of people which they put, much more. Well, have arrived! And what then 38 regions which or on a broader scale have forbidden till July, 1st, on July, 1st there was a term a deadline when they should leave cities, or have established term - the end of this year? As we offer the Moscow authorities. In my opinion, there is an obvious discord in a position of the mayor. Gambling institutions of all kinds, I underline, it is full debauchery and moral ugliness. And officials of the mayoralty kryshujut also open all new and new gambling institutions in our city. And in this sense we look, as well as the president who has introduced this bill, silly enough. We are deputies of the State Duma who have corrected obvious nelepitsu - absence of existence of the federal law. And we have given these two years to check up what of the regional authorities are closely connected with gambling institutions and what - are not present. It was found out that 38 regions quite safely have gone on cleaning all it from the places of residence. And all these lamentations concerning the lost taxes empty, they their sense also do not pay. And it is the sums scanty for the overwhelming majority of regions. As to workplaces. The same. The country can give work to 80 million persons why it cannot employ any quantity of security guards, waiters, janitors or the croupier? What is this a problem? It does not exist. But in the meantime we protect millions, and for expired ten years of ten millions persons which have lost last money. And these people absolutely precisely not from what live on Rublevke. It those people who have left there last money in hope to be enriched.

“ the Moscow member of the Komsomol “:

- Except the letters directed already in Office of Public Prosecutor and other bodies, what else methods of struggle you consider, wish to add to the arsenal in this opposition?

A.Lebedev:

- Exist, different “ guerrilla “ methods at political strategists when directly ahead of the election day it is possible to paste over lifts, entrances, the underground. We would not want. In - the first, it not absolutely corresponds to the law. By the way, it is much cheaper, believe to me. Billboards in Moscow good, on good points stand. Even in the summer when there is not enough demand, 1,5 - 2 thousand dollars for one carrier in a month. These are enormous money. I can allow myself it. I have made it itself. I have the right to contribute in the party activity which member I am, in any form. The law does not forbid it to me. And I consider it as usual activity of party. And here elections? Elections, of course, are a certain culmination of an estimation from citizens. But in intervals between party elections compete, compete in the decision of problems of citizens. And in it just all substantial sense of that we have made. We, of course, want to cause a stir from other parties a position on gambling institutions. However many our colleagues who have voted against our law in March of last year spoke. Therefore to be attached to the law of the president ugly. It is absolutely clear that the president has roughly corrected “ an United Russia “. The mayoralty position too is clear. It at us another. It absolutely excellent. Now the mayor suddenly began to say that it is necessary to forbid dot building. Remarkably. But unless not it it also has imparted it to our city? And companies not closely connected with it in all forms realise this dot building? Clearly why. Because ljuboe the residential building is under construction at us in a city around 250 large buildings, it is necessary to construct in city centre. Because the more close to the Kremlin, the more close to the sum of 100 thousand dollars for square metre. I remind that such prices are really planned in that gold island about the Kremlin. 100 and above thousand dollars for square metre. And if you to me tell, what not it is the mayoralty main task, I will disagree with you. But how party members should tell about it to Muscovites, except as here so? I do not understand. Well, newspapers, thanks, it while at us exists.

N.Andrushchenko:

- At me such sensation that you on all previous doperestroechnoj activity tried to be hidden and imperceptible. As - that it should be inherent in the scout. That less people saw and knew. And now, on the contrary, the portraits place on all city. This change of psychology as - that has affected?

A.Lebedev:

- Remember a known aphorism of Konan Dojlja? That something carefully to hide, is better to put it on a foreground. How to you such answer? Perhaps, I and in the past practised the similar form of activity? If to compare ours doperestroechnuju life and today`s is as the sky and the earth. At us was not neither multi-party system, nor political activity, neither the present elections, nor available assets of the mass information, the State Duma, anything it at all was not. Truth I on - former I consider that we with Andrey Anatolevichem not politicians, we simply try to offer recipes and in process of forces to contribute in the decision of those or other problems in the country. We considered that flashers, privileges of officials and gambling institutions is a big problem. As a matter of fact, we have devoted it all four years of work in the State Duma. Something was possible to us, something is not present. Other things in this State Duma were impossible, because was not, if want, a social demand. It I am expressed ezopovym by language. I very much would like, that the following State Duma was, first of all, with clear to all of you the agenda. Today we will definitively talk to Sergey Mihajlovichem on this subject. It completely for, we open national expert discussion. Want, consider its party, want - not party because the people representing any spectrum of political views there should enter. But this national expert discussion on the agenda of the following State Duma. I would like to work in the State Duma where a priori for four years and it is clear than she is engaged every day. There is no time whence - that someone has written the law in executive power, not clear, 131 - j on local governments. So the law is written that its sin not to break from enforcement authorities. What is the authorities and do. Or 122 - j the law. Or the law which now confers additional powers to traffic police bodies, I mean amendments. Why to us not to have the transparent, clear agenda of the following State Duma? I would like to concentrate on reform of law-enforcement system. I have a firm belief that the law-enforcement system of the Russian Federation not only does not provide our rights, does not contribute in our security, but also is one of the main threats of our existence in the present form. There is a judicial reform, there is a necessity to work over the law on Federal meeting, on parliamentary investigations and so on. Why to us not to spend discussion?, Let us assume, executive power will agree with something, with something - is not present. Then it will be at least clear, than we there are engaged. And otherwise the relation of the people to us will be such what we merit. Strictly speaking, nobody knows, than deputies of the State Duma are occupied. We though on two questions can report. Struggled with flashers, it has partially turned out, partially is not present. But day is not finished yet - we have one more session. And I think that to those participants of ruling coalition who have again put these glasses to itself on cars, it is necessary to talk to us very seriously. And hardly it will be possible to keep this conversation within the limits of this our parliamentary hall from which follows nothing. Where, as they say, parliament - not a place for political debates. But that this polemic and competition between parties proceeded, the help of outdoor advertising is necessary to us. Otherwise you never learn that we there discuss. As there were all these four years.

N.Andrushchenko:

- a leah seems to you that not only in Moscow, but also in other cities of the Russian Federation have started to forbid advertising “ Fair Russia “ Because it was excessively aggressive in the previous election campaign? All about it told. Not only “ an United Russia “ but also communists. Zyuganov told all about badly shaved person on publicity boards in different cities. And other. That it is impossible so to spread, as a potato at Ekaterina. Is more thin it is necessary, more delicately. A leah seems, what therefore?

A.Lebedev:

- Look that we have written on our posters. Roads without stoppers, officials without flashers - here are not present anything aggressive. It is obvious that officials should lead the same life, as we. At them should not be spetsnomerov, spetstalonov, spetssignalov. And spetsavtomobilej, by the way. What here the aggressive? And as to communists it seems to me, they are seriously enough frightened. Because “ fair Russia “ the existence brings an attention to the question - than was engaged in the Communist Party of the Russian Federation in the previous three State Dumas? All these years. After the epoch of dictatorship of the CPSU has ended, than they were engaged? Can name to me though something, what they have made? They as usual since Lenin promised the earth to peasants, factories to workers, neither the world, nor war, army to dismiss. All of us fine remember it. In what it has resulted? To tragedies for our people and for our country. And consequently, of course, they are stirred and accuse “ Fair Russia “ in aggression. I, to tell the truth, any aggression do not see.

N.Andrushchenko:

- it is simple by quantity it exceeds advertising of other parties.

A.Lebedev:

- Is not present. I I think that in two days I will have exact figure for now has approximately counted, that in our city of billboards with party “ Civil force “ about time in six or seven more than mine. And by the way, they razveshany on all country. It will be necessary to specify too. When I hung, them was hundred, and it were not so successful surfaces. For example, when you go on Kalininsky, under the Kutuzovsky prospectus from Moscow. The billboard was on the party how to go aside from Moscow, you will not see it. Here too there are tricks how to hang out outdoor advertising from the point of view of surfaces. And these were a prime lakejshn, the best places - “ Civil force “ - simply you do not want, and you will see. On a broader scale a real exit from this situation - an interdiction of this outdoor advertising in such huge volume because it threatens drivers on roads. It became too much. In one city of Europe it is not present. But so considerably to us will not allow to raise the question. I would offer possibility of conducting political activity if position for all became identical. Give, children, we will cease to impose to citizens of our country through each five metres not clearly that. We that, will not understand? Who on it earns? The authorities and owners of outdoor advertising. And to us that from it?

N.Andrushchenko:

- Because the main word in your party - “ fairly “.

A.Lebedev:

- I Think that as a result of it the quantity of victims on roads could be reduced. Traffic signs and indexes would become is better visible.

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- billboards are how much informative? What they bear semantic loading?

A.Lebedev:

- For party which is just created as a result of merge, it, first of all, an explanation that it exists, the recognition increase, certain colour scale, a logo. And, besides, all - taki we try to enter any semantic messages, we communicate with citizens. Not with voters, I specially want to underline it. We explain, for what we exist that we offer. If you ask me about classification on a broader scale all tools of conducting political activity, billboards are where - nibud in the five of the cores. Another matter that there can be different political courses. If “ Fair Russia “ and further will exhaust thus for Mozhaj, start up so, well, OK. We it is more these “ bigmordami “ as they are called by citizens, will not use. We have a budget, official, put under the law. All money from the budget will go on children`s homes and the decision of problems of the deceived shareholders. Such course at us too is. And we will offer it to party directing bodies.

N.Andrushchenko:

- That citizens knew this course, it is necessary to write it capital letters.