The icing on the cake would be word getting out that he was also a long term police informer deemed “too valuable to be left in jail for extended periods” which would explain his extraordinary rapport with the bail granters.

Exile1981

Were did you hear that?

simus1

If you haven’t heard a rumour by 9 am, start one.

b_marco

… there was a lot of shooting, a minute or so pause where police and hostages exited, and then 10ish shots.

Exile1981

Australia and Canada need concealed carry.

James Hamilton

Why only ‘concealed’?? It’s should be ‘open’ & ‘concealed’ as well depending on personal preference & circumstances.

Exile1981

I kind of assumed that if you have concealed carry you also have open carry. Though concealed carry tends to discourage criminals more as they don’t know if your carrying. Open carry makes them think twice about you specifically though.

Minicapt

The proper course would be the elimination of all gun laws, on the grounds that any offences relating to guns are already crimes in the CCC.
Better still, classify gun ownership as a protected class of free speech.

Cheers

Exile1981

You still need some way to remove that right from people who are unfit to handle a firearm – specifically people who have a previous history of violence and crime or those mentally unstable and in an institution.

Minicapt

Why? What is ‘unfit to handle a firearm’?

Cheers

Exile1981

I’m thinking people who have previously used a firearm in the commission of another crime – rape, murder and robbery. Even after they get out of prison or are awaiting sentencing you would want a clause that says they can’t own or handle a firearm and as such if they are found with one you can arrest them rather than wait for them to commit another crime.

Does that make sense or am I not explaining it clear enough.. To be honest there was way too little sleep last night.

Minicapt

I am objecting to treating a gun as a special device which causes crime by its existence or possession. It is a tool which is useful, and sometimes vital, and it should be treated as per knives, baseball bats, cars and lawn mowers. And if one is to place restrictions on possession of things used in crimes, then make the list comprehensive and legally justified: baseball bats, kitchen knives, hockey sticks, etc.
Plus one should not interfere with opportunities to ‘thin the herd’.

Cheers

favill

One good guy with a gun…or better yet a whole café full of good guys/gals with guns–end of story.

Tokenn

Ya know…it’s not just guns. When Tori Johnson jumped that raghead freak in the coffee shop, did anybody even try to help him? Stick a pocketknife in the bad guy? Crack the bad guy over the head with a chair? Weapons are great [I’ve got a bunch myself] but what really matters is fighting spirit. When all the cops [and other ‘responsible authorities’] tell the public to not fight back against obvious, immediate deadly threats, that is setting people up to be victims. It seems to me that promoting helplessness and cowardice [and yes, banning the right to own and carry weapons] is even more evil than physical attacks by evildoers.