If a civil war broke out, it would only be a matter of a few weeks before all them blue enclaves would perish. Not from anyone firing a gun or battle.
The freeways would be closed, interstate traffic would halt, and everyone trapped in the city zones would be without food. No semi trailer traffic, no
food. The rich might get out, but the average democrat voting suburban zombie wouldn't, they'd be eating each other.

Zombie apocalypse, live newsfeeds from drones. Welcome to Hillary's America. Would make a great movie.

Quick question: can you name just one of your Constitutional rights being trampled by the Revenuers, I mean Feds?

How Many Constitutional Freedoms Do We Still Have?

First Amendment

The 1st Amendment protects speech, religion, assembly and the press:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

However, the government is arresting those speaking out … and violently crushing peaceful assemblies which attempt to petition the government for
redress.

A federal judge found that the law allowing indefinite detention of Americans without due process has a “chilling effect” on free speech. And see
this and this.

There are also enacted laws allowing the secret service to arrest anyone protesting near the president or other designated folks (that might explain
incidents like this).

The threat of being labeled a terrorist for exercising our First Amendment rights certainly violates the First Amendment. The government is using
laws to crush dissent, and it’s gotten so bad that even U.S. Supreme Court justices are saying that we are descending into tyranny.

For example, the following actions may get an American citizen living on U.S. soil labeled as a “suspected terrorist” today:

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
My brother living in Tennessee told me that everyone he knows down there, and he knows some political heavy weights too, have just about had it with
the federal government. His friends and their friends, out to about 5 degrees of separation, all are at the breaking point when it comes to their
constitutional rights getting trampled by the feds. I'd imagine there will be support from all over the states if the south rises again. Think of how
many different groups might unite as it seems that everyone has a bone to pick with the PTB these days. The enemy of my enemy is my friend could take
hold if enough crap gets flung at the fan.

Quick question: can you name just one of your Constitutional rights being trampled by the Revenuers, I mean Feds?

I'm not taking the bait Gryphon66. It was something my brother told me about, not something I necessarily agree with. He told me about the signs
people have on the lawns down there wanting to succeed from the union too.

Another thing, I resent the fact that you are implying that I'm a stupid red neck hillbilly. I happen to be an educated northern Yankee born about
one hundred years after the civil war. You should have guessed that I'm actually from Michigan and believe it or not, I'm not in some civilian
militia.

What if I told you my other brother's ex-wife down in Mississippi thinks that BLM is a bunch of uppity Negros? Does that make me a southern racist KKK
member too?

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
My brother living in Tennessee told me that everyone he knows down there, and he knows some political heavy weights too, have just about had it with
the federal government. His friends and their friends, out to about 5 degrees of separation, all are at the breaking point when it comes to their
constitutional rights getting trampled by the feds. I'd imagine there will be support from all over the states if the south rises again. Think of how
many different groups might unite as it seems that everyone has a bone to pick with the PTB these days. The enemy of my enemy is my friend could take
hold if enough crap gets flung at the fan.

Quick question: can you name just one of your Constitutional rights being trampled by the Revenuers, I mean Feds?

Speaking of revenue....Many taxpayers in Kentucky have not seen their state tax refund checks from 2014. We are three months from ending the 2015 tax
year.

My BFF and I speculated that Bevin was buying time until the fiscal year ended to send them out. But, no. We still know people who haven't received
theirs.

Goodness, how did I imply that you are a hillbilly or that you are a "stupid redneck"?

You seem to be wildly overreacting to what I said and didn't say. I didn't say anything about you. I don't know you.

Folks that I know in TN still call the Feds "Revenuers." If you've never heard that, I'm not surprised.

But you are the one repeating your brother's story. and fair enough, I did direct the question to you.

Allow me to rephrase.

What Constitutional rights have been stripped by the Federal Government (just so you don't think I'm calling you a hillbilly again) in your brother's
experience? What rights do he and those five rings of connection feel have been taken away?

I mean, they must have SOME justification for talking about violent revolution/sedition, right?

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
My brother living in Tennessee told me that everyone he knows down there, and he knows some political heavy weights too, have just about had it with
the federal government. His friends and their friends, out to about 5 degrees of separation, all are at the breaking point when it comes to their
constitutional rights getting trampled by the feds. I'd imagine there will be support from all over the states if the south rises again. Think of how
many different groups might unite as it seems that everyone has a bone to pick with the PTB these days. The enemy of my enemy is my friend could take
hold if enough crap gets flung at the fan.

Quick question: can you name just one of your Constitutional rights being trampled by the Revenuers, I mean Feds?

Speaking of revenue....Many taxpayers in Kentucky have not seen their state tax refund checks from 2014. We are three months from ending the 2015 tax
year.

My BFF and I speculated that Bevin was buying time until the fiscal year ended to send them out. But, no. We still know people who haven't received
theirs.

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
My brother living in Tennessee told me that everyone he knows down there, and he knows some political heavy weights too, have just about had it with
the federal government. His friends and their friends, out to about 5 degrees of separation, all are at the breaking point when it comes to their
constitutional rights getting trampled by the feds. I'd imagine there will be support from all over the states if the south rises again. Think of how
many different groups might unite as it seems that everyone has a bone to pick with the PTB these days. The enemy of my enemy is my friend could take
hold if enough crap gets flung at the fan.

Quick question: can you name just one of your Constitutional rights being trampled by the Revenuers, I mean Feds?

Speaking of revenue....Many taxpayers in Kentucky have not seen their state tax refund checks from 2014. We are three months from ending the 2015 tax
year.

My BFF and I speculated that Bevin was buying time until the fiscal year ended to send them out. But, no. We still know people who haven't received
theirs.

Does KY have an official audit?

That does sound pretty ... serious.

Honestly, I want to take action to investigate what's going on. So far, all I have found out is that *some* checks are being delayed because there was
a PIN breach.

That was reported in February. No updates since then and I cannot find out any new information. I have called the KY IRS to try to dig in though.

I appreciate your clarification, but I'd suggest that you choose your words more wisely in the future.

As far as what is bothering them down in TN, he wasn't too specific, but that is was a whole lot of issues building up to a breaking point. The one
main issue he did mentioned was the ATF reclassifying wet nitrocellulose to a high explosive in an apparent attempt to make ammunition too expensive
for civilians to purchase as an end run around the 2nd amendment.

I felt it wouldn't be a problem considering how any rag tag extremest groups in the middle east have no problem getting all the military grade weapons
they need for their wars. If you want ammo and the feds make it near impossible to purchase legally, I'm sure there is someone out there willing to
supply you on the black market if it comes down to that. However, if you want to buy some bird shot rounds for your shot gun, or .22 cal to plink
cans, then it might be a good idea to buy now then to wait until after October 1st when the new classification goes into effect.

Choose my words more wisely? LOL. Look I was nice and pretended that I might have made a poor word choice that caused your little hissy fit. If
you're so insecure about yourself that the word "revenuer" makes you think someone is calling you a hick redneck ... that's your malfunction not mine.

The 2nd Amendment? 320 million firearms in the hands of Americans and counting. Has the price of ammunition gone up then?

WHAT'S TRUE: The ATF reclassified wetted nitrocellulose as a high explosive in June 2016.

WHAT'S FALSE: The decision is not final, as the ATF has rescinded their determination pending industry input.

So ... no rights have been taken away then? It's just a feeling, a sense? A belief?

Right. That would be my argument. The right-wing media harps on this nonsense all the time, constantly drilling into the minds of some that their
Constitutional rights have been taken away ... except that no one can really ever demonstrate any specifics.

Look I was nice and pretended that I might have made a poor word choice

I personally don't give a rat's behind what your opinion is about what I thought (more like know) you were implying. And once again I have to point
out that I was just relaying what he said about how the people he knows in TN feel about the federal government. I told you how I don't think it's a
problem, so you didn't have to use me as a sounding board for your opinion on the subject of what is what concerning our civil rights.

I knew I shouldn't have bothered catering to someone like you who seems to be just waiting for the chance to one up everyone else. You must feel
pretty good when you jump on people's posts to make yourself feel superior. I bet you're doing the church lady's superior dance about now. I wish I
could use a few choice words to describe your type, but ATS T&Cs wouldn't allow it without censoring me.

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