Topic: What is haram to watch and what isnt?Posted By: Mnadeem662
Subject: What is haram to watch and what isnt?
Date Posted: 24 November 2005 at 1:41pm

biismillahir rahmanir raheem

Assalamu alaikum,I was wondering what on TV is haram to watch and what is not. I heard that if there is a women on TV, it is haram to watch, as well as anything else that is haram to do. Is this correct?

Replies: Posted By: Dayem
Date Posted: 24 November 2005 at 6:14pm

i have a shotcut-Dont watch T.V.Or even if u hav to, then watch only AND ONLY islamic channel.

Idiot box is a really good way to waste ur time.

As for the women in T.V, and magazine,I think the reason we r supposed not to look at em is that a person may start dreaming of these women and think that there wife will be also like them.

Anyway, ur not supposed to look twice at a women.Hope that Helps-

Regards, Dayem.

-------------"the mooslims! they're heeere!"
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Posted By: Amina16
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 1:17pm

What about Cartoons?

-------------"Words have Power" ex: The Quran

Posted By: Mnadeem662
Date Posted: 27 November 2005 at 3:47pm

I asked an imam the same question, he told me the same applys to cartoons

Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 27 November 2005 at 4:07pm

Dont use MSN cause it has pictures, therefore its a good practice not to use a computer. no computer= no knowledge. Go back to stone-age and cry why America is kicking our a$$

Posted By: Mnadeem662
Date Posted: 27 November 2005 at 5:56pm

I never said don't use the internet, I said you shouldn't look up innappropriate things on the internet. You should use the internet for educational purposes.

Posted By: rami
Date Posted: 28 November 2005 at 5:00am

Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

assalamu alaikum

Shaykh Hamza Yusuf on TV, Truth, and Technomania

June issue of "The Message" Magazine

This interview of Imam Hamza Yusuf was conducted in Calgary, Alberta during
Islamic Awareness Week organized by the Muslim Students' Association (MSA)
of the University of Calgary. The interviewer was Sr. Randa Hammadieh. It
was compiled by Sr. Randa and Br. Ibrahim Danial.

RANDA HAMMADIEH: In your travels in the Muslim world, what cultural
practices did you notice that struck you as being different from those of
the West?

HAMZA YUSUF: In the West, there is a strong separation between young and
old. In Muslim tradition, on the other hand, youth continues until the age
of 40. This is the idea of "shababiya." In the Western civilization, the
idea of adolescence is purely a social construct. The generation gap in the
States isn't necessarily universal to all cultures although the US is doing
a good job of exporting their monoculture all over the world. This happens
because people are being exposed to the television and movies of the
dominant culture. So you will see US cultural phenomena now all over the
world.

RH: What are your thoughts on Muslim youth and public education of today?

HY: I think modern school is a negative experience. I believe you can learn
more out of school than in it. There is now a universal education system,
whether you are in an Arab country, China or somewhere else. This universal
education is only going to vary according to the political atmosphere of
the given country. For example, in Iraq, the indoctrination is probably
more obvious whereas in the US it is just more subtle. School is an
artificial construct to socialize individuals into a group identity. The
whole idea of a "school of fish" is that everyone swims together whereas
traditional Islamic education was completely individualized. What it did
was give people all those tools (in the West called "liberal arts") such as
grammar, rhetoric, and logic, through which people could actually think and
use their brains.

In public high schools, you are not given tools, you are given information
and data. In fact, a metaphor that is used in education today is that
you're basically a hard drive that needs to be written with a given
software. You will then fulfill whatever are the social needs of the
society. Schooling today is designed only to matriculate people into the
logic of the system itself. Then people end up in meaningless jobs doing
meaningless work, and never really think about what type of society they're
contributing to.

RH: If there was one thing in your travels in the Muslim world that left a
distinctive impression upon you, what would it be?

HY: What a horrific condition the Muslim countries are in! The Muslim
world
is now like a rape victim. Colonization was like the raping trauma, and
the
Muslim world has never been able to get up and go on with lifeof the
Muslim world in its entirety by European powers, who for centuries
were seen as backward and barbaric, has had really devastating effects.

Now in the Muslim world, Muslims seem to dress in pale imitation of Western
people. Some look like caricatures of Western people. This is indicative of
the state of some Muslims who aren't very inspiring anymore. The whole
world once looked up to the Muslims as models.

RH: What do you say to Muslims who seem to glorify the past when they were
at their peak?

HY: This is all pathetic nostalgia for returning to the glory of the past
and its romanticism. The past has nothing to do with us. That was them. We
are a whole other people. It's not our past, it was their present. Now it's
over. That's why the Quran has this concept of letting go of your fathers,
and not being proud of your fathers because they are not you! You have to
create your own future. Don't be like an old war veteran. However, it is
important to have some historical continuity because the Qur'an says "Look
at the people who went before" as the way of learning lessons.

One thing that is wrong with some modern Muslim mentality is the idea of
"If we do what they did, we will be glorious." Someone asked me, "How can
we get an empire back?" There is this idea that Islam is all about glory.
No! It's like you exercise to maintain your health, but the exercise is not
your goal. It's just the means to achieve your goal. In the same way that
if you seek the contentment of Allah, one of the side effects of that is
that Allah elevates you and gives you "tamkeen," but that is not the goal. It's just a side effect.

Now you don't hear people talk about Allah very much, just about Islam. The
Quran says, "To your Lord is your goal." The path of coming to know God
results in victory because of your struggling for truth. One of the things
about sincerely struggling for truth is that Allah gives you victory by the
nature of the struggle. It follows that by the nature of the struggle
itself, you gain worldly success. You see, worldly success has nothing to
do with the intentions. Because if those are your intentions, then you will
never gain worldly success. In fact, Allah will give the "kafiroon" success
over you. If the people of truth are not seeking truth, but instead the
benefits of truth (merely the side effects), then they will never achieve
them.

RH: Then how should Muslims look at life?

HY: Life is mundane. Life is praying, getting up for Fajr and day-to-day
chores. All this "glory" some aspire to is just an abstract in the mind.
And the reality of it is even the kings of the past had to get up in the
morning and go through daily routines. Life is by its nature perfunctory
and Islam is just to harmonize it, put it into perspective, and make its
goals dignified goals, instead of low, worldly goals.

RH: Now that you are residing in the US you must have had some exposure to
the technological hegemony occurring. How do you view this in the light of
Islam?

HY: Modern technology is just an example of when people's goals are totally
distorted. Modern technology arose out of very strong corporate interests
in creating the massification of society where everybody needs a TV or a
stereo. This doesn't mean that Islam is against technology. Technology, by
its nature, is everything that humans produce. And by our nature we do make
things. Islamic technology would be very humane. To serve people as opposed
to the opposite.

Muslims do not believe in progress. Progress is completely antithetical to
the Islamic doctrine. Muslims believe that human society reached its
pinnacle in Medina in the 7th century. This is the best society that has
ever existed. The verse which says "Today We have completed your
Religion..." made Umar (ra) weep because he realized that nothing is ever
completed except that it begins to decrease.

If the goal of life is to establish Deen, then that is the highest progress
that humans can achieve and therefore all this modern technological madness
is an exteriorization of the human impulse to know. Because we have become
such gross materialists, all of our intellectual and spiritual endeavors
have been completely centered and focused on the outward, the "Dhahir" and
the inside has been completely forgotten. Now there is even a massive
interest in how we can preserve this life here, manifested by studies in
cryonics, genetic engineering and cloning.

RH: So would you say human beings tend to serve modern technology rather
than it serving us?

HY: Yes. Modern technology dehumanizes by its nature, because it is based
on massification (a computer in every home). Everyone is reduced to sitting
around looking at blinking cathode rays on a screen. There is no human
exchange anymore; people just send e-mail. People get nervous if you start
talking like this because most Muslims are really embarrassed by the
simplicity of the Prophet's (pbuh) life. Many don't want to admit that he
lived in a house devoid of furniture; that he sewed his own shoes and
collected firewood. The Prophet (pbuh) wasn't interested in improving that
aspect of his life.

Improving ones standard of living has become an idol whereas I think Islam
lowers your standard of living. You become content with less. When the
Prophet's (pbuh) wife put a cushion in his bed he got upset. He consciously
lowered his standard of living.

The truth is the whole world can't support a bunch of consumers. Western
technology is based on the exploitation of the other 90 percent of the
world. All our wonderful technological achievements are based on the rest
of the world living in abject poverty. Through enjoying the fruits of
Western technology, we are in fact participating in the destruction of
indigenous cultures all over the world and the impoverishment of those
people.

RH: What are your thoughts on the teenage phenomenon and its significance
today?

HY: It's an artificial construct intended to sell rap, $100 basketball
shoes and $80 jeans. It's an invention of consumer society that doesn't
exist in traditional Islamic or Western cultures. People should be done
with school by the time they're 15. In traditional European societies,
those who studied had their bachelors by the age of 14 and were teaching at
18 at Cambridge and Oxford. This is documented. Spending 12 years in school
is an artificial construct designed to occupy time-space in which the
society really doesn't have the ability to allow these people to enter the
workforce because it is saturated.

Teenage phenomenon destroys human society. Historically, agrarian-based
societies (which the majority of Muslim countries are) view community as
absolutely essential for survival, whereas in industrial societies
community is a luxury.

A sickness of some Muslims today is that they've gotten into the whole age
issue. Much like racism and sexism, it's identifying people with
quantitative measurements. We don't know how old many of the sahabi were.
It wasn't an obsession. In fact, the Prophet (pbuh) tried to break the
jahali concept by putting Osama ibn Zaid as the head of an army when he was
only 17. Age in Islam is about having gray hair and not having gray hair.

If you don't have gray hair you're called a "shabaab" and you're supposed
to respect people with gray hair. If you have gray hair you're called
"sheikh" and you're supposed to have mercy and compassion on those who
don't have gray hairs. That is a much healthier way of looking at it. In
Islamic knowledge, we knew Ibn Malik was considered a sheikh which
literally means "old man" when he was 17 years old. Islam doesn't box you
into a category. Age is about where you are spiritually, not where you are
numerically.

I think that 40 year olds should sit with 18 year olds, and in a spirit of
brotherhood and sisterhood, learn from each other. The sahabi had 15 year
olds in their Prophet's majlis with 60 year olds. Muslim schools were never
segregated by age. "Allah created everything and He guided it in its own
specific way and manner."

We are an Ummah of labeling and labels are from Western society. In labels,
everything has a name and nothing has a meaning.

RH: Given all your experiences, travels, and years, what do you know for
sure about the world?

HY: Well, that there is a lot of truth to Sayidinna Ali saying that "Youth
is a type of madness and old age is a type of wisdom." I think that a
crisis of the Muslim world is that we have an incredibly young society and
thare by and large ignorant, having lost their historical
link, and so there hasn't been a lot of guidance from the older generation.

Many Muslim youth are confused, but as this generation of Muslims reach
maturity, an interesting scenario is going to occur. As the young people in
the Islamic movement in the U.S. and Canada move into their forties, there
is going to be much growth and guidance for the younger people, inshallah.

We are in a really bad time, but we should see it as a temporal kind of
condition. This is not the way it has always been, nor is it the way it
will always be, inshallah. I know we just have to be careful as a community
in the steps we take. We have to deliberate more than necessary than if we
had strong guidance. We are now living in a very exciting time, a time for
much potential growth, and I believe that Muslims in Canada and the US will
certainly rise to the occasion, inshallah.

End of interview.

-------------Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.

Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 28 November 2005 at 9:52am

really nice interview.

I really wish that muskim countries have rulers with this type of mentality

Posted By: Amina16
Date Posted: 01 December 2005 at 3:00pm

Islam & Watching TV

An interesting article titled "The Stranger" is located at the bottom of this page, please read it as well.

The issue of watching TV is not free from numerous reservations from a shar’i point of view, such as uncovering ‘awraat, listening to music, spreading corrupt beliefs and calling for imitation of the kuffaar. Allaah has commanded us to lower our gaze, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Tell the believing men to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts). That is purer for them. Verily, Allâh is All-Aware of what they do. And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts)” [al-Noor 24:30-31].

Since lowering the gaze is the basis of protecting the private parts, it is mentioned first. Allaah has made the eyes the reflection of the heart: if a person lowers his gaze, the desire in his heart will be reduced, but if a person looks and stares, the desire in his heart will be provoked.

In Saheeh Muslim (1218) it is reported that Al-Fadl ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) was riding behind the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) on the Day of Sacrifice (Yawm al-Nahr) from Muzdalifah to Mina, when some women riding on camel-borne sedan chairs passed by. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) turned his [al-Fadl’s] head away. This was prevention and denunciation through action, for if looking were permissible he would have approved of what he did.

The eye can sin by looking and that this is its zinaa. This is a refutation to those who say that looking is allowed in all circumstances.

It was also reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “O ‘Ali, do not follow a look with a second, for the first look is allowable but not the second.”

A look has the same effect on the heart as an arrow has on its victim. If it does not kill him, it will wound him. It is like a spark of fire in dried grass; if it does not burn all of it, it will still burn some of it. May Allaah have mercy on the one who said:

“Everything starts with a look, and big fires start from little sparks.

How often has a heart been dealt a fatal blow like that of an arrow, with no need for a bow.

As long as a man’s eyes are looking around, looking into the eyes of others, he is in a state of danger.

His eye delights in that which could destroy his heart. The joy that may lead to harm is not welcome.”

With regard to television, it is a dangerous device and its harmful effects are very great, like those of the cinema, or even worse. We know from the research that has been written about it and from the words of experts in Arab countries and elsewhere enough to indicate that it is dangerous and very harmful to Islamic beliefs (‘aqeedah), morals and the state of society. This is because it includes the presentation of bad morals, tempting scenes, immoral pictures, semi-nakedness, destructive speech, and Kufr. It encourages imitation of their conduct and ways of dressing, respect for their leaders, neglect of Islamic conduct and ways of dressing, and looking down on the scholars and heroes of Islam. It damages their image by portraying them in an off-putting manner that makes people despise them and ignore them. It shows people how to cheat, steal, hatch plots and commit acts of violence against others. Undoubtedly anything that produces so many bad results should be stopped and shunned, and we have to close all the doors that could lead to it. If some of our brothers denounce it and speak out against it, we cannot blame them, because this is a part of sincerity towards Allaah and towards other people.

Whoever thinks that this device (TV) can be free of these evils and can be used only for good purposes if it is censored properly is exaggerating and is making a big mistake, because the censor may miss things and most people nowadays want to imitate the foreigners. It is very rare to find censors who are doing their job properly, especially nowadays when most people are only interested in time-wasting entertainment and things that turn people away from true guidance. Reality bears witness to that.

We ask Allaah to keep us safe from all evil for He is the Most Generous.

The Stranger

"A few months before I was born, my dad met a stranger who was new to our small Tennessee town. From the beginning, Dad was fascinated with this enchanting newcomer, and soon invited him to live with our family. The stranger was quickly accepted and was around to welcome me into the world a few months later.

As I grew up I never questioned his place in our family. In my young mind, each member had a special niche. My brother, Yusuf, five years my senior,was my example. Samya, my younger sister, gave me an opportunity to play 'big brother' and develop the art of teasing. My parents were complementary instructors-- Mom taught me to love Allah, and Dad taught me to how to obey Him. But the stranger was our storyteller. He could weave the most fascinating tales. Adventures, mysteries and comedies were daily conversations. He could hold our whole family spell-bound for hours each evening. If I wanted to know about politics, history, or science, he knew it.

He knew about the past and seemed to understood the present. The pictures he could draw were so life like that I would often laugh or cry as I watched. He was like a friend to the whole family. He took Dad, Yusuf and me to our first major league baseball game. He was always encouraging us to see the movies and he even made arrangements to introduce us to several famous people.

The stranger was an incessant talker. Dad didn' t seem to mind-but sometimes Mom would quietly get up-- while the rest of us were enthralled with one of his stories of faraway places-- go to her room, read the Qur'aan.

I wonder now if she ever prayed that the stranger would leave. You see, my dad ruled our household with certain moral convictions. But this stranger never felt obligation to honor them. Profanity, for example, was not allowed in our house-- not from us, from our friends, or adults. Our longtime visitor,however, used occasional four letter words that burned my ears and made Dad squirm.. To my knowledge the stranger was never confronted. My dad was a teatotaler who didn't permit alcohol in his home - not even for cooking.

But the stranger felt like we needed exposure and enlightened us to other ways of life. He offered us beer and other alcoholic beverages often.

He made cigarettes look tasty, cigars manly, and pipes distinguished. He talked freely (probably too much too freely) about sex. His comments were sometimes blatant, sometimes suggestive, and generally embarrassing.

I know now that my early concepts of the man-woman relationship were influenced by the stranger.

As I look back, I believe it was Allah's Mercy that the stranger did not influence us more. Time after time he opposed the values of my parents. Yet he was seldom rebuked and never asked to leave. More than thirty years have passed since the stranger moved in with the young family on Morningside Drive.

He is not nearly so intriguing to my Dad as he was in those early years. But if I were to walk into my parents' den today, you would still see him sitting over in a corner, waiting for someone to listen to him talk and watch him draw his pictures.

His name you ask?

We called him TV.

It makes you think, doesn't it...

-------------"Words have Power" ex: The Quran

Posted By: herjihad
Date Posted: 13 December 2005 at 4:17pm

Bismillah,

I just read this thread. Okay. What can I say, guys? The tv is a tool to be used, like a computer, or a pencil. Use it well, and it will benefit you. Use if foolishly, and it can harm you or your family.

I can understand why people follow the sheikh that you quoted, Rami, because a lot of his words compel people to him. But then there are other things that people like me just walk away from. He seemed so wise until I thought about some of the things he said which were extreme and unreasonable.

Old people want to control young people and it has been that way for a long time. Many of the young listened out of fear because they had no other resources available to them. Young and old we need to show true respect to one another. And the young should realize that older people may have lived through the very thing the young person is experiencing at the moment and may have advice and knowledge to benefit them. But old people need to know that the world changes and young people may have new ideas which will help everyone in the community adapt to those changes.

-------------Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.

Posted By: rami
Date Posted: 15 December 2005 at 10:50am

Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

Your ideas do not relate to islam the haram and halal do not change
with time neither do the things which corupt human beings. Generalising
matters can often make a person loose focus of what the issue is. What
seems extrme to you is not to others it depends on where you are coming
from, a person raised in a liberal scociety can not fully apreciate the
benefits of restricting access to certain things or outright denial.

Harm should be removed this is a basic principle upon which islam is
founded, it should not be placed in front of a person to continualy
test them becouse just like a drop of water constantly hitting a rock
eventualy it will crack.

-------------Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.