Comments on: Should the Royals lock up Eric Hosmer now?http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/12/should-the-royals-lock-up-eric-hosmer-now/
Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball.Wed, 04 Mar 2015 00:16:39 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: superpriebehttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/12/should-the-royals-lock-up-eric-hosmer-now/comment-page-1/#comment-137403
Fri, 13 May 2011 01:43:33 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=56869#comment-137403I would imagine any agent (and certainly Boras) would know to use the potential for SuperTwo arbitration as part of the negotiation of the extension. As such, while SuperTwo may be made irrelevant by the extension, it will not be irrelevant to the terms of the extension.

Waiting another three weeks to bring up Hosmer would have eliminated this problem – it was a stupid move from a business point of view.

]]>By: Reflexhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/12/should-the-royals-lock-up-eric-hosmer-now/comment-page-1/#comment-137397
Fri, 13 May 2011 00:37:15 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=56869#comment-137397NFL’s non-guaranteed contracts are a joke. A player beats the hell out of their body making owners tens of millions, but once thier back is iffy they are tossed away. All the risk is put on the player. No thanks.

Baseball already has its answer to guaranteed contracts, insurance policies. When a team signs someone long term like that typically they take out a policy against injury so that if the worst happens the player isn’t screwed for simply putting it all on the line, and the team isn’t screwed for showing faith in the player. Much better approach.

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Thu, 12 May 2011 22:21:10 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=56869#comment-137379Think you’re right. No arbitration if you’re under contract already. That’s what the Nats did with Ryan Zimmerman.
]]>By: BChttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/12/should-the-royals-lock-up-eric-hosmer-now/comment-page-1/#comment-137349
Thu, 12 May 2011 20:23:59 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=56869#comment-137349But if he signs a six-year contract, “Super Two” is punted, no?
]]>By: superpriebehttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/12/should-the-royals-lock-up-eric-hosmer-now/comment-page-1/#comment-137291
Thu, 12 May 2011 18:27:32 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=56869#comment-137291I actually thought this to myself before they called him up – sign him while he’s still raking in the minors. Sure, it’s risky, but its the way a team like KC can save tons of much-needed cash.

Someone above mentioned that the Royals don’t spend their money well on the free agent market as an argument against signing Hosmer. To me, it’s an argument *for* signing him. The Royals have little business pouring money in to free agent mediocrities – as such, they should pour money into the farm program and the fruits it bears. For all the money they gave to Meche, they could have signed a dozen or two over-slot draft picks with much higher profiles and ceilings.

I seriously doubt this happens, though. Angel Berroa turned out very badly for the Royals, and Alex Gordon was a can’t-miss that missed. So, Dayton’s going to be quite gun shy, as he was with Butler and probably cost the team several million by waiting. Plus, it’s way too smart for them. They’ve already set the stupid in motion with Hosmer by ensuring he’ll be a SuperTwo*. The next step will be to jerk him around the diamond and back-and-forth to Omaha while lavishing playing time and millions on future Royal Lyle Overbay.

*For me, “SuperTwo” is the only way to stylize this concept

]]>By: BChttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/12/should-the-royals-lock-up-eric-hosmer-now/comment-page-1/#comment-137187
Thu, 12 May 2011 16:31:40 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=56869#comment-137187Hosmer hit a bomb last night against NYY. Let him go a month or two, see how he deals with adversity (everyone has a slump once in a while), and if all is hunky-dorey at that point, yeah, give him the Longoria treatment.
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Thu, 12 May 2011 16:20:41 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=56869#comment-137183One word, Craig: Frenchy.
]]>By: yankeesfanlenhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/12/should-the-royals-lock-up-eric-hosmer-now/comment-page-1/#comment-137178
Thu, 12 May 2011 16:13:36 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=56869#comment-137178He really should get rid of that beard anyway, he looks like Mose.
]]>By: henryd3rdhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/12/should-the-royals-lock-up-eric-hosmer-now/comment-page-1/#comment-137173
Thu, 12 May 2011 16:01:18 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=56869#comment-137173Can we just hold off on enshrining this guy in the Hall of Fame? He’s been in the “bigs” less then a month and already people feel he’s the second coming of George Brett! Success has a way of spoiling even the best prospects. Let’s let him have a few years in the “bigs” before we crown him King of the World. Plus some year ago there was another can’t miss prospect that came up with KC. His name Clint Hurdle! He’s a pretty good manager; but he fizzled as a player.
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Thu, 12 May 2011 16:01:08 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=56869#comment-137172Well played
]]>By: henryd3rdhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/12/should-the-royals-lock-up-eric-hosmer-now/comment-page-1/#comment-137171
Thu, 12 May 2011 15:59:35 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=56869#comment-137171Can we just hold off on enshrining this guy in the Hall of Fame? He’s been in the “bigs” less then a month and already people feel he’s the second coming of George Brett! Success has a way of spoiling even the best prospects. Let’s let him have a few years in the “bugs” before he crown him king of the world. Plus some year ago there was another can’t miss prospect that came out of KC. His name Clint Hurdle! He’s a pretty good manager; but he fizzled as a player.
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Thu, 12 May 2011 15:51:36 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=56869#comment-137167I wouldn’t offer anyone long term guaranteed contracts. I’m not sure if they have injury clauses in any of them, but after dodging a bullet on the Gil Meche contract I wouldn’t count on many other players leaving money on the table. Another example of a long term contract that turned out horrible for the Royals is Mike Sweeney with his back issues.
That’s one thing I think the NFL has that I can’t believe other professional sports don’t have, non guaranteed contracts so that you don’t get saddled paying millions to a guy who does absolutely nothing to help the team.
The Royals have already proved to be unable to use the money they do spend correctly as pointed out by Posnanski: http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/04/29/the-lowest-payroll-in-baseball/
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Thu, 12 May 2011 15:39:01 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=56869#comment-137161If I’m the Royals I’d offer him the Longoria deal today, that’s not a huge risk/investment for his upside. But if I’m Hosmer there’s no way I’d take it, that contract is not great for Longoria. As for meeting in the middle of Longoria and Gonzalez, perhaps we should wait a while. Another five games should suffice.
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Thu, 12 May 2011 15:35:55 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=56869#comment-137158Since he’s already here, we might as well sign him now and give Tex a day off here and there, and Posada looks like he needs a rest at DH.
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