micky- honestly, didnt bother to weigh since some of my previous builds were way lighter. will do now and post later.

46and2- no problems with the 6k saddle so far except for discoloration on the steel bolts. had to file a little bit of the cradles for better fit with the speedneedles.

wasabi1- if you saw my previous builds, im sure you would notice that they were way lighter and built to be light. this one isnt. i could loose substantial grams by changing my wheels/tires into a lighter one or changing the casette to aluminum rather than loosing a few grams by removing the those warning stickers. as ive said a few posts above, not planning to have this frameset forever so resale value, if the stickers are on, is more important for me rather than losing 10-20grams.

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