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08-19-2012 08:46 AM

boating2go

Re: First Boat for Family of Six (in Oz)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRFerron

Six people on a 27 foot boat. That's love.

They'd better love each other because things are going to get close very quickly. We've done it with the grandkids with no problem but had more room then that. Of course kids think of it as an adventure of are usually flexible unless it is raining and they get tired of each other. Than no boat is big enough.

07-23-2012 09:38 PM

blt2ski

Re: First Boat for Family of Six (in Oz)

Understand the Hartley issue. I was thinking having seen some of the plans, thought they were both pro abd homemade down under one might work.......with that......skip it.

I would also think there should be some older fiberglass boats from jeanneau, Beneteau to name a couple of european manufactures that seem to sell down there that could work in the mid to upper 20' range. Many also had CB options to handle any draft issues.

Again, as your market is different than mine, hard to say what is available per say. The Farr design 1020 is a good one, one that B Farr used for his family for awhile. Most if these were built down under. Might be a smaller version that would work. (now that I am typing, I do recall a smaller version in a thread that was in Oz for sale, just do not remember the name...980 or 920?!?!?) There is one of these at my marina, quick, lots of room in the cockpit. A Laser 28, also a Farr design might work, not sure if they were made down that way tho.

Marty

07-23-2012 09:25 PM

BentSailor

Re: First Boat for Family of Six (in Oz)

Very true. I have enough work with four boys without adding the gutting/refit of a boat to the equation. I am looking to spend more time with the boys on the water, not another year (or two) working on a boat.

Honestly, from people I've talked to - one of the best ways to "kill the dream" is to start by building / fixing up a boat. I have enough financial reasons to avoid the dream without killing it!

07-23-2012 09:13 PM

Classic30

Re: First Boat for Family of Six (in Oz)

Quote:

Originally Posted by blt2ski

Not sure of the budget, but doesn't the Hartley designs have some larger versions? are some pro built if you will vs being home made? one of them might work........

Yes, there are indeed some larger Hartleys and I (of all people) would be the first to recommend one, but... the trouble is, because many of these were home made - badly - they tend to give the pro built versions a bad name also meaning selling it later becomes a serious problem. To the extent that most I've seen for sale are mooring minders.

If someone were after a largish plywood or ply/fibreglass boat in the 25-30' range that they could customise themselves in their own backyard then, yep, a big Hartley would be worth looking for... but Bent isn't in that market. He's got a family to look after.

07-23-2012 06:11 PM

tdw

Re: First Boat for Family of Six (in Oz)

My main issue with many of the smaller yachts is comfort at anchor. I know i've blathered on about this before but when you have an interior a'la standard Compass 28 or 29/Clansman/Duncanson 29 you have a dinette to starboard in which anything larger than a hobbit or a cavalier spaniel could not possibly get comfortable and galley opposite. The older Northerner had a smaller galley aft to port with settee berths both sides. You lose the table unless you install one on centreline but you gain comfort.

Unless you can get yourself into a comfy position you will not use the boat for overnighting.

07-23-2012 04:42 PM

blt2ski

Re: First Boat for Family of Six (in Oz)

Not sure of the budget, but doesn't the Hartley designs have some larger versions? are some pro built if you will vs being home made? one of them might work........

Otherwise, not sure what to say on brands that might be available down under.........

oh yeah, did you figger out what causes them rug rats?......

Marty
also a father of 4!

07-23-2012 12:19 AM

BentSailor

Re: First Boat for Family of Six (in Oz)

The slowness, not such a big deal, but not really that interested in a just a day sailor. Made some headway on a boat based on your other advice though - so it looks like I may not have to worry too much about "settling" for only days on the water

07-22-2012 11:50 PM

Classic30

Re: First Boat for Family of Six (in Oz)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BentSailor

Exactly. She's a beautiful boat, but not a cheap one (especially for a day-sailor)!

Meh.. Couta's come in a range of sizes, are (very) shallow draft, non-racing versions can be bought within your budget, and are indeed pretty to look at.

Day-sailers is all they are ...but the lack of winches and home-comforts and general slowness compared to what you're currently looking at probably won't work for you.

Besides, they're made of wood.

07-22-2012 11:37 PM

BentSailor

Re: First Boat for Family of Six (in Oz)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdw

Which half ?

Exactly. She's a beautiful boat, but not a cheap one (especially for a day-sailor)!

07-22-2012 11:30 PM

tdw

Re: First Boat for Family of Six (in Oz)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hartley18

Speaking of shallow water: Something a little out of left-field that might be ideal for your sailing grounds is an old Couta Boat. There are plenty for sale at good prices.

(I'm only half joking).

Which half ?

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