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JMDP won 3 indoors titles in 2012, Marseille and 2 consecutive in Vienna and Basel, beating one of the best "indoors player" in final! So i would call him a third favourite for the title in London, after Djokovic and Federer!

JMDP allready played final there, losing to Davydenko in 2 sets!A lot will depend on the draw in London, let's say if Juan Martin played against Federer, Ferrer and Tipsarevic his chances will be much higher!

I would not take into account his result in Paris, it is possible to pull out or tanked , because this will be his third week in a row to play, with very tough draw!

He needs a favorable group. If he draws the group with 2 of the top 3 seeds, I don't see him making the SF unless he can beat Fed again. If he gets a group like the one you mentioned, he would have a good chance to make the SF, but beating Ferrer wouldn't be easy for JMDP

He needs a favorable group. If he draws the group with 2 of the top 3 seeds, I don't see him making the SF unless he can beat Fed again. If he gets a group like the one you mentioned, he would have a good chance to make the SF, but beating Ferrer wouldn't be easy for JMDP

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That's true, i was thinking Delpo was the favourite in Wimbledon, and David beat him easily...

His best grouping would be to be with Ferrer and Federer. He has never done well vs Djokovic outside of grass, and never done well vs Murray outside of clay. Either way if he is in Ferrer's half he has a good shot to make the semis. His ideal grouping would be Federer, Ferrer, and Tipsarevic. Everyone will want Tipsarevic in their half, LOL!

He not yet even won a regular Masters but it is like Del Potro to do everything backwards so maybe he will win the TMF before a regular Masters. I dont pick him to win, but it is also isnt impossible he could pull an upset and do it. He seems to be very slowly but surely gaining ground and confidence on the top players, although his fitness is still a big issue.

His best grouping would be to be with Ferrer and Federer. He has never done well vs Djokovic outside of grass, and never done well vs Murray outside of clay. Either way if he is in Ferrer's half he has a good shot to make the semis. His ideal grouping would be Federer, Ferrer, and Tipsarevic. Everyone will want Tipsarevic in their half, LOL!

He not yet even won a regular Masters but it is like Del Potro to do everything backwards so maybe he will win the TMF before a regular Masters. I dont pick him to win, but it is also isnt impossible he could pull an upset and do it. He seems to be very slowly but surely gaining ground and confidence on the top players, although his fitness is still a big issue.

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that was the exact group I posted as being his best shot on another thread.

Also he has had a lot of close losses to Murray, so I don't rule him out against him but Murray is a better player these days. However if he played him first match and say Murray had just played the Paris final, then who knows? Tiredness might play a part.

Actually thinking about this, imagine the groups are

Federer
Murray
Berdych
Tsonga

Djokovic
Ferrer
Delpo
Tipsarevic

Delpo is runner up and Djokovic winner, of the other group Murray wins and Fed is runner up. Now Delpo can lose to Djokovic in the group matches, play one great match vs Fed and he's in the final. If Murray is there and tired from an epic match,maybe Delpo wins. It's a big stretch but it is maybe the best chance to win the whole thing.

Would not be surprised if he won it, as he is playing very well at the moment, but having said that, there are so many great players taking part, if they are playing well too it might not be that easy. I say "semis" for him,

that was the exact group I posted as being his best shot on another thread.

Also he has had a lot of close losses to Murray, so I don't rule him out against him but Murray is a better player these days. However if he played him first match and say Murray had just played the Paris final, then who knows? Tiredness might play a part.

Actually thinking about this, imagine the groups are

Federer
Murray
Berdych
Tsonga

Djokovic
Ferrer
Delpo
Tipsarevic

Delpo is runner up and Djokovic winner, of the other group Murray wins and Fed is runner up. Now Delpo can lose to Djokovic in the group matches, play one great match vs Fed and he's in the final. If Murray is there and tired from an epic match,maybe Delpo wins. It's a big stretch but it is maybe the best chance to win the whole thing.

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Well if Fed is runner up in a group with Murray and Del Potro runner up in the other behind Djokovic, Del Potro wouldnt play Federer in the semis. He would play Murray. The 1 plays the 2 from the other group in the crossover semis. Federer would have to win his group over Murray for the above scenario to play out.

I would say Semifinal. It depends a lot on which side of the RR he is....the opponents he has to face in RR, Semifinals,or Finals.

It would better to be on a side of Federer and Murray,Than with the likes of Djokovic and Ferrer.

He could win this whole thing or could not even get out of the RR with tough matches against 2 of the top 4, and Berdych.

The event is unpredictable for everyone barring Federer who can just steam through.

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LOL do you actually think Ferrer is a tougher opponent for Del Potro than Murray. Yeah I know Ferrer has done well vs him sometimes in the past, and beat him easily at Wimbledon, but Del Potro playing great can easily beat Ferrer. Murray who he has only beaten once on clay is by far a tougher opponent.

I think Ferrer's gamestyle bothers him and he might get frustrated at times because against great defenders you have to hit 'winners' more than once at times. That one extra ball could end up being an unforced error more often than not. He also lost to Ferrer on hard court this year in straight sets.

Plus he's just not a great grass-player. He has never reached a Wimbledon QF.

LOL do you actually think Ferrer is a tougher opponent for Del Potro than Murray. Yeah I know Ferrer has done well vs him sometimes in the past, and beat him easily at Wimbledon, but Del Potro playing great can easily beat Ferrer. Murray who he has only beaten once on clay is by far a tougher opponent.

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Delpo is 2-2 v Ferrer on hards, 0-4 versus Murray. Only on TT could those stats lead to a conclusion that Delpo would be better off playing Murray.

A lot of it depends on DelPo's form.
It's been good at times this year but his endurance has been substandard.

I've seen him let balls go by and then later run them down with energy.
To me this is conserving energy and waiting for the right moment to go all out.
His endurance is lacking or it has been.
If he can get that part of his game at top level he'll be much tougher to beat.

DelPo's had more than enough time to work on this area but hasn't done enough.

that was the exact group I posted as being his best shot on another thread.

Also he has had a lot of close losses to Murray, so I don't rule him out against him but Murray is a better player these days. However if he played him first match and say Murray had just played the Paris final, then who knows? Tiredness might play a part.

Actually thinking about this, imagine the groups are

Federer
Murray
Berdych
Tsonga

Djokovic
Ferrer
Delpo
Tipsarevic

Delpo is runner up and Djokovic winner, of the other group Murray wins and Fed is runner up. Now Delpo can lose to Djokovic in the group matches, play one great match vs Fed and he's in the final. If Murray is there and tired from an epic match,maybe Delpo wins. It's a big stretch but it is maybe the best chance to win the whole thing.

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Hope it's not Tipsy. Hopefully an outsider, preferably Raonic can do great at the Masters in Paris to possibly clinch the spot from Tipsy, with Tipsy losing early.

Well if Fed is runner up in a group with Murray and Del Potro runner up in the other behind Djokovic, Del Potro wouldnt play Federer in the semis. He would play Murray. The 1 plays the 2 from the other group in the crossover semis. Federer would have to win his group over Murray for the above scenario to play out.

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Yeah sorry, I know how the semis work, just mistyped what I wanted to say

I hope you don't think I'm dissing Tipsy, coz I'm not. He deserves where he is right now. He's been very consistent, and on occasion may give trouble to the top 4. I just like other players better than him. Just personal preferences I guess