Okay, another "perfect" 60 year old pistol. We can really get going on this one. First off, condition means percentage of bluing left on the weapon. Is it 100% as it just came from the factory? Does it have holster wear that is normal when it is carried in a holster? The grip panels have no wear at all? There are no markings on the pistol? Any proof marks you can tell us about on the pistol? Can you give us the serial number so we can find out exactly what we are talking about here? Please use the form 123,xxx. Then maybe you can post a picture so we can give you even better information? We cannot help you unless we have data to work with. Please get back to us with specifics. Thanks.

Okay, another "perfect" 60 year old pistol. We can really get going on this one. First off, condition means percentage of bluing left on the weapon. Is it 100% as it just came from the factory? Does it have holster wear that is normal when it is carried in a holster? The grip panels have no wear at all? There are no markings on the pistol? Any proof marks you can tell us about on the pistol? Can you give us the serial number so we can find out exactly what we are talking about here? Please use the form 123,xxx. Then maybe you can post a picture so we can give you even better information? We cannot help you unless we have data to work with. Please get back to us with specifics. Thanks.

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Thanks for your response. I'll take a close look at the gun and post some follow up info and maybe a picture.

Okay, another "perfect" 60 year old pistol. We can really get going on this one. First off, condition means percentage of bluing left on the weapon. Is it 100% as it just came from the factory? Does it have holster wear that is normal when it is carried in a holster? The grip panels have no wear at all? There are no markings on the pistol? Any proof marks you can tell us about on the pistol? Can you give us the serial number so we can find out exactly what we are talking about here? Please use the form 123,xxx. Then maybe you can post a picture so we can give you even better information? We cannot help you unless we have data to work with. Please get back to us with specifics. Thanks.

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Ok, I now have the gun in front of me so I can give you more detailed info. Regarding the extent of bluing loss, there is slight loss at the end of the barrel and in the trigger area. The grip handles have no wear at all. There are no scratches or blemishes to speak of anywhere on the gun. The serial number is 208056 K. The following is inscribed on one side:
WALTHER (within a scroll) Waffenfabrik Walther, Zella-Mehlis (Thur.) Walther's Patent Cal. 7.65 mm. On the other side, besides the serial numbers, which appear two places, on the barrel and near the trigger, there is some sort of mark stamped in two places in the shell discharge area. The mark begins with what appears to be a Z. I can't make out the rest of it. Regarding the holster, it is not dry rotted. It is stamped D.R.G.M. with a mark above it which looks to be two crossed rifles. Below the D.R.G.M. is a round shaped area of wear with a few pin holes in the center which I'm guessing might have been from a badge or pin of some kind.

I hope this is enough information. I've attached some pictures as well. I'm not planning to sell this gun but just want a general idea of what it is worth. Thank you all.

Your PPK is prewar production and is a commercial model which was sold for civilian use and not issued to any military or police organization. However, it may have been carried by a military officer, as they often purchased their small pistols on the civilian market. The holster is a scarce shoulder type also made for civilian sales. The "DRGM" is a patent marking, and the crossed rifles are the manufacturer's logo. The pistol appears to be in nice condition and is worth about $450 plus an additional $150 for the holster, so the complete outfit is valued at around $600 give or take.

Hi Guys: Being a new member on the forum and no disrespect intended,but the ppk is worth more than that.I've been collecting those little buggers along with the pp,s and have in the past several years seen prices going up higher,even more so than Lugers,which I also have.
The weapon is in at least 95% grade,though I must say the pics are not the best,but I see the loss at the muzzel.Which is very common.The pistol was manufactured early 1939 and as the gentleman stated a commercial unit with the crown/n proof.They started putting the eagle/n proof at the beginning months of 1940.You should take the slide off and look inside,next to the ejection port,and you will see the last 3 digits of the serial number.If you have never taken one down its really simple and the best place to go is Marstar Canada for the instructions.
Now back to pricing.Your pistol alone is worth 800USD.If it had a finger ext mag with it you could add 200 or more to that figure.You can tell the holster is nice,and a DRGM crossed rifle shoulder holster would bring 3-400USD easy.I'm hoping this will make you happy and you have something there that if it were mine and belonged to my dad,no monies could touch it.
Make sure you keep the weapon and holster cleaned and preserved and if you want to shoot it don't be afraid to do this as there are replacement parts availible every where,but in all my years of collecting and shooting these fine Walthers,I have never had any problems or none of my other Walther friends.Just shoot full metal jackets in them as they do have feeding problems with the hollow points,silver tips,etc.Hope this helps you some and if anyone needs any help with info on the PP,s and PPK,s,old ones that is,please do not hesitate to email me.
Best Wishes
Danny

Yes Xracer, the prices you quote are right on. I think Danny is mistakenly pricing this commercial as though it was Waffenamted. Commercial PPK pistols go for much less than military or police variations which reach prices of about $800 to $1200 or even more. As for the holster, well, holster prices are wide open and really can't be predicted.

Gentlemen:
As I stated before I've been collecting for 30 years or more and I watch the Walther PPK and PP pistols like the stock market.Sure I know the prices on the WAa359 and police pistols are higher,but the quality is not always there and alot of them have been reblued,buffed and anything else to get a buyer.I do not even want a Walther after 1940.The nazi thing does not interest me in the least.Walther was shipping those things out as fast as the slave labor could make them.On the other hand prewar Walthers had better finish and workmanship involved.If you watch Auction Arms,Gunbroker,Gunsamerica and some of these other auction sites you would see what I'm talking about when collectors are trying to dry up the market.And yes the holster would bring what I stated if it were put on Ebay.
Everything concerning Walther is a value in its self and will only continue to sky rocket.I'm new here and do not mean any disrespect to you gentlemen at all.Sure blue book will give you a price,just like a car dealership,but that does not mean thats all they will offer on trade.I would be glad to give 1200 for this rig and then in five years or so sell it for 1800.I'm hoping you guys understand that I have spent many years of research,time and money just on Walthers alone.I'm happy to find this site and thought I could lend a little help to the forum,but I will not jump in again on these matters unless someone asks for my info or help.
My Kind Regards
Danny PS: If you get a chance I posted my Walthers and other goodies on the C%R section of this site.You will see a 1932 PPk in the box I paid 900 for 15 years ago.Now I am receiving offers of over 3000 for it.They are a very good investment.

Hi Danny...........no problem. We disagree around here all the time. It's sort a sport here at TFF, and as long as we can agree to disagree politely and with respect (as you did)........fire away!

I, for one, take no umbrage with your posts. You obviously know much about PPKs than I do. My "values" come from books. If the "real world" is different, and I know it often is, don't hesitate to let us know about it.

Healey, Danny's right on the pulse of the market, and provides for you the numbers your insurance agent needs, to indemnify you; what the piece would bring, cash money, where you live, may differ.
I am in San Antonio, Tx, and, if on my table, the price would be aout $1200, us, and would move at $1,000-1,050, cash. I can pander it to any number of collectors, and the bottom line will remain the same.
These are numbers based on the whole deal proving up, as original, which I have no doubt that they are, and doing a single deal for the lot.
Welcome to our strange little part of the web! Terry