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05-27-2009 10:30 PM

hemi joe

CAR CRANKS OVER GREAT,NO PROBLEMS JUST KEEPS BURNING UP GROUND WIRES! LIKE I SAID AFTER NEW TRANS WAS INSTALLED.BEFORE TRANS REBUILD NO PROBLEM!!! ONLY THING I DID WAS PUT AN ACCEL COIL ON CAR. DID NOT UPGRADE DIST. MODULES WITH ACCEL PART#35362.MAYBE PROBLEM I DON'T KNOW? ANY HELP GREATLY APPREATED. THANKS JOE

05-27-2009 10:08 PM

carsavvycook

Here is a few pic's of hand made 2 gauge battery cables.

05-27-2009 09:54 PM

hemi joe

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION,LIKE I SAID MY UNCLE IS VERY bullheaded.YOU GUYS HAVE ANSWERED ALOT OF MY QUESTIONS TOTHE TEE!I'AM STILL LEARNING AS I GO ON.I'AM 47 YEARS OLD AND DON'T KNOW THE 2000'S KNOWHOW,PLEASE WORK WITH ME,I LOVE TO LEARN THE NEW STUFF. ANY INFO IS KNOWLEDE TO ME....

05-27-2009 09:33 PM

carsavvycook

Quote:

Originally Posted by hemi joe

my question is,why did this start after trans was rebuilt and new flywheel was installed.EVERYTHING WAS FINE BEFORE!

The starter to flywheel alignment is too close, is my second guess.

My third guess would be the number of teeth on the flywheel, and the correct starter installed. This can cause grinding during cranking though. Did they re-install the spacer plate between the transmission, and engine, if equipped?

05-27-2009 09:20 PM

hemi joe

Do I Need A Distributor Modulator.

IS THE COIL GETTING TO HOT AND CAUSING PROBLEMS?

05-27-2009 09:03 PM

hemi joe

my question is,why did this start after trans was rebuilt and new flywheel was installed.EVERYTHING WAS FINE BEFORE!

05-27-2009 07:59 PM

001mustang

How can you burn up the small ground wire ?

Have you verified the big ground wire is attached properly? If the big ground wire is attached then it will be getting very hot to the touch when the small ground is burning up.

Why don't you remove the coil wire so engine wont start...then crank the car for a long time...then feel of the big ground wire...

If the big ground wire is not hot then:
You don't need a bigger ground cable to start the car.

If the big ground wire is hot then your problem may be :
ground wire too small or improperly terminated..
starter drawing too much current.
Starter wire shorting out.

05-27-2009 07:22 PM

hemi joe

i'am thinking more on the line of wrong battery cables,since i burned up the first small ground off that first,probaly after one week.should i be using a heaveier gauge because of police wirering(such as extra lights,sirens,ect.)were wirered up before,and who knows what they cut off when they sold it.my mechanic working on the rear says starter is bad,never had this problem untill he rebuilt my trans he does not understand he is working on a ex police car,three times he has ordered the wrong parts!my problem is he is my uncle,and i don't think he knows what he is working with.WAIT TILL YOU HEAR WHY IT HAS TAKEN HIM 3 WEEKS TO GET PARTS FOR MY REAR...NEXT CHAPTER.ANY HELP GREATLY WELCOME.....THANKS JOE

05-27-2009 06:19 PM

001mustang

I would remove the main coil wire , crank your car several seconds, then touch starter and related wires to see if anything is getting hot.

You already verified all related wire connections are clean and snug?

I would carry a fire extinguisher in case you have a short circuit fire.

Verify starter is installed straight; not binding against something. Does starter to new flywheel engagement/disengagement sound normal?

05-27-2009 05:19 PM

carsavvycook

Are they true 4 gauge battery cables? I would suspect the battery ground cable connection at the engine, or possible 6 gauge ground cable. You also need to have at least a 10 gauge main body ground from the battery to the fender. Since you are smoking the smaller ground cables, this makes me think this is your problem.

05-27-2009 04:37 PM

hemi joe

problem back,from old thread hot caprice hard start.

hey guys,this is from another thread about my 87 caprice 5.7L having hard starts on hot motor.once again this problem has happened but this time on cold start.my mechanic replacing my rear said when they tried to start car smoke was comming from near starter,cooked small ground wire from battery cable(third time this has happened)and cooked ground wire from starter.he said he added heaverier gauge ground wire,seems to be ok.my question is do i have wrong gauge battery cables because this is ex police car with high amp.alternator(which is also new)and high output starter?also would adding accel high output coil have anything to add to this problem?

05-17-2009 05:54 PM

hemi joe

factory ground is running to the block but i will look into the other grounding options thanks JOE.

05-17-2009 05:24 PM

DoubleVision

If the timing is correct, and everything else seems up to par. Add grounds. Run the factory ground to the block, not the alternator bracket. Next run another ground from the block to the frame. You can use the brake line hold down under the engine on the cross over frame. Make sure you clean the contact areas real well. Check the factory grounds, there should be one on the firewill to the intake, make sure it`s connected and clean.
This is what I had to do to my Olds cutlass surpreme. I had a header pipe that rode on the starter so it got hot fast. After I added grounds no more starter problems. The added benefit was the lights were brighter and the alternator didn`t have to work as hard to provide the same power.

05-17-2009 05:18 PM

carsavvycook

Quote:

Originally Posted by hemi joe

yes has new battery and cables.

Check for the fine print on your new battery cables, to make sure it does not say 6 gauge. These will not be able to handle, or supply the proper cranking amps on a hot V8.

05-17-2009 05:07 PM

jafroyd

have you shot the timing in with a light? Sounds like too much initial timing.

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