Yea, i laughed out loud at Beckham's folly and i'm in pain pretty much all the time .. it was just so slapstick .. i think that Gordon's shown that he has a fairly high baseball IQ over the years .. i think last night shows you just how bad things might be in the clubhouse with so many loses piling up .. he wasn't thinking at all obviously .. he was acting like a guy under tremendous pressure who was thinking that he has to do everything himself .. i've been in that situation and things tend to spiral down quickly..

What exactly was Reed doing on that play? He's just as much at fault for just standing on the mound like a tee ball kid watching the ball in the sky. He has to take responsibility to yell at Beckham to stop if he can't hear Connor.

Shortly after the play Steve Stone said that Reed was supposed to act as traffic cop in that situation.

LOL! Everyone else has been called lazy and stupid because of poor defense, but Beckham is trying too hard? Good Lord. I've never seen so many people make excuses for a bad player. It's just amazing.

I don't read it as an excuse. It's not inconsistent to say a player was being stupid and was trying too hard on the same play.

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Have you guys not seen Beckham run the bases? He's been making bone headed plays for years. Yes, by any measure, he's been a bad player. Rios, Ramirez and even ADA have been far better players with the Sox, despite numerous struggles.

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I'm not counting this homerun or his 3 RBI from today's game because of the game situation. I'm not counting his pinch hit solo homerun in a blowout win in Colorado. In my book, Crede has 2 less home runs than his statistics show, 4 less RBI, and one less walk (the one where he pinch hit for Uribe after coming in with a 3-0 count and taking one pitch).

I disagree. Beckham did exactly what he should have done which is go after the ball until someone called it. Reed just stared up into the sky like an idiot instead of directing the infielders as required.

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I disagree. Beckham did exactly what he should have done which is go after the ball until someone called it. Reed just stared up into the sky like an idiot instead of directing the infielders as required.

Reed should have called him off, but a second baseman has no business trying to play a ball in front of the mound on the 3rd base side. That's just a bad player trying to do too much. Beckham said it was stupid. DJ blasted him. Hell, even Hawk was pissed and he's the biggest Beckham excuse maker on the planet.

Reed should have called him off, but a second baseman has no business trying to play a ball in front of the mound on the 3rd base side. That's just a bad player trying to do too much. Beckham said it was stupid. DJ blasted him. Hell, even Hawk was pissed and he's the biggest Beckham excuse maker on the planet.

Well, I give Beckham kudos for taking the blame, but if you're going to blame a player for stupidity it has to be Reed.