Joe McFall of the seminal podcast, Out There! Radio, joins the Host to open the second season of the Invisible Web~! We discuss his childhood Fortean experiences, his favorite episodes and show topics, memes and reality filters, and even find time for our old pal, the Popo Bawa. And just what is the future of Out There?

The track in the opening ad is J Underberg’s “Z” from his album Action. Our closing track for this episode is Robert Johnson’s “Me and the Devil Blues.”

Philip H. Farber is a man of many talents. In the past he has written for the Disinformation Company and the Green Egg publication of the Church of All-Worlds. Currently he is known as a lecturer and author on the subjects of altered states of consciousness and magick. In 1995, he wrote the now out-of-print collector’s item FutureRitual, a book that merges Neuro-Linguistic programming with Ceremonial magick techniques, which has a forward by Industrial Music pioneer, Genesis (Breyer) P-Orridge. This summer, Weiser Books will release Farber’s Meta-Magick:Book of Atem. What does this book entail? Find out in the proceeding interview. We also discuss his past with Genesis and Robert Anton Wilson, his theory of magick, one-eyed monsters, and unicorns. Phil’s website is:: http://hawkridgeproductions.com/. He also teaches an online course at http://www.maybelogic.org/academy.htm.

Interviewer: How are you Phil? Can you tell our readers what your family background is in regards to your childhood?

Phil Farber: I grew up in the 1960s on Long Island, which was at once both a very ordinary kind of place and a very weird one. Ordinary in the sense that communities there were supposed to typify post-World War II suburban life and the American Dream of owning a home, a car, and commuting to a job; weird in that if you really tuned in to what was happening you realized that the place was trashed and was only becoming more crowded, polluted, and socially stagnant.

My parents were both scientists. My mother was a mycologist, one of the very few women PhDs actually working in the sciences at the time. She worked in pharmaceutical laboratories that specialized in allergy products and when she couldn’t find a babysitter, I’d come along to the lab. Quite a bit of my younger years were in that setting. My father was a physicist and worked mostly as an electronic engineer. He was the inventor, in 1965, of the first computer-based color scanner and the four color separation process that we now know as the CMYK protocol. This was an invention that literally changed the world of media – enabling major magazines like Life, Look, Time, Newsweek, etc. to specialize in photojournalism and bring images of the wider world into the homes of millions. And yet he rarely talked about this.Read the rest of this entry »