About the body size, I'm hoping it will be a rebel sized body, with 5D build quality.

Hope dies last - that's why I did this poll, it's interesting to see user's expectations vs. the real Canon releases & prices. I really like my 60d & my lenses, but Canon is really on the wrong track for enthusiasts at the moment, and not every wish is an unreasonable "I want a 5d3 for $1000" dream.

my 2 cents; I think the D800 is the cause for Canon to come out (i know i know, not yet it's a CR1) with a high-mp cam. Due to this, I would expect this cam to compete with the D800 - which a 1D body flying high price-wise would not do.

I am afraid, it might, on the other hand, be a tech demonstration - 1D style with a sensor performing (hopefully) better than the D800. How many of us would wait for a version of that camera to come out with a price within reach of us mortals, how many would get it and how many would jump ship?

Personally, I am not considering changing brand either case but Canon's pricing is getting me reconsider lens purchases so as not to be more invested in Canon gear - have been drooling over TSE lenses, MPE 65 as well as the new 24-70...

I suspect Canon will target this camera for the truly professional market and price it accordingly. It will be aimed at studio and commercial photographers who traditionally have been using MF, and for this reason the asking price will probably be north of 9000$

The D800 is an enthusiast camera which doesn't really compete with the big boys that dominate this prosegment like Hassy and PhaseOne, and is priced accordingly.

I also expect around $8k and maybe more, if its really better than nikon's D800 we can be sure canon will price it really damn high. The only danger there is that its bumping towards medium format money which Im willing to bet will still get higher IQ in the entry levels.

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In the end, only the image matters... Not what equipment you used to get there.

my 2 cents; I think the D800 is the cause for Canon to come out (i know i know, not yet it's a CR1) with a high-mp cam. Due to this, I would expect this cam to compete with the D800 - which a 1D body flying high price-wise would not do....

I think there is a lot of truth to your comments. I certainly believe that to be the case for the 6D. If it weren't for the D600 the 6D would not even exist (IMO) and it very well could be the same for this new high MP body. Is Canon stuck in a defense mode? It certain appears they are trying to salvage market share by responding to Nikon. Competition is good, I want both Canon and Nikon to be successful, theoretically the consumer wins.

Personally, I am not considering changing brand either case but Canon's pricing is getting me reconsider lens purchases so as not to be more invested in Canon gear - have been drooling over TSE lenses, MPE 65 as well as the new 24-70...

Cheers!

Ya, the disappointment of the 6D has certainly stifled my gear purchase enthusiasm.

IMHO If the new megapixel monster is a 1 series style with 1 series pricing then Canon will have completely failed.

Why would I purchase said body for $8k when I could add a D800 + pro glass to my gear? I would rather be vested in both Canon + Nikon glass. This would at least allow me to care less about bodies in the future and support whatever company had the best price per feature camera body.

Point is if price is the same and performance is similar I'll take both Canon and Nikon instead of being forced into one.

The $1million question is predicting the release date, assuming it is announced in November.

I'd very surprised if the price wasn't a lot above the 5d3, and in this case few people will care about the release date because they cannot afford it (I for one). The high mp will be for either for very rich amateurs or the intended market: pros that could replace their medium frame bodies using the latest and upcoming very sharp Canon lenses.

From what I've read it might be "pre-announced" in November maybe, but then the delivery will be much later - like November 2013 :-p

For Canon it now makes sense to trump the D800 with a bigger MP animal. Not competing with the D800, but competing with MFDB appears to me might be a core point to Canon's strategy in this case, so that they can dismiss the D800 as insignificant.

This might not be pleasing to a lot of consumers, but I expect this will be appealing to Canon as a vendor, enabling them to claim that the D800 failed to be a true alternative to MFDB, while Canon's offering at least put up a challenge, whatever that may mean in practical considerations and market performance. If they are succesful in this area they may even release a lower-specced variant in D800s niche market, similar to how they now release the 6D against the D600.

It could get even better, as maybe the 5D3 price will come down too, then Canon has the big MP offering that Nikon won't quite have, despite it being an alternative way and not as pleasing to consumers, but rather pleasing to professionals.

my 2 cents; I think the D800 is the cause for Canon to come out (i know i know, not yet it's a CR1) with a high-mp cam. Due to this, I would expect this cam to compete with the D800 - which a 1D body flying high price-wise would not do.

I am afraid, it might, on the other hand, be a tech demonstration - 1D style with a sensor performing (hopefully) better than the D800. How many of us would wait for a version of that camera to come out with a price within reach of us mortals, how many would get it and how many would jump ship?

Personally, I am not considering changing brand either case but Canon's pricing is getting me reconsider lens purchases so as not to be more invested in Canon gear - have been drooling over TSE lenses, MPE 65 as well as the new 24-70...

Cheers!

I tend to agree with the D800 jump starting Canon into the megapixel race. Nikon needed to take control (which was easier with a Sony sensor) and come out with the D800. Canon was happy with 22MP and had the AF and ISO to go with it. So then what will happen, after Canon releases their high MP cam, will Nikon come back with better AF, ISO and FPS?

Canon's high MP / high DR body does not have to be insanely expensive. Just cripple the FPS, give it 16 point AF and native ISO up to 12800. It won't touch the 5D3 sales, nor the 1DX.

This camera is ment to compete with the D800 / D800E, and therefore the price tag should not exceed 4K.

But then again, it is Canon we are talking about here. The camera will probably be overpriced.

Don't talk about or mention the word "Cripple", I think Canon has been a doing too much of that lately. We don't want to give them any more bad ideas or make them think we're OK with it. They just need to try and give us the best camera they can. I'm sure the overpriced 5D Mark III is going to more than pay for the R&D they put into that AF. Now they just need to put it in every body they can (within reason).