re: when do we start blaming the coaching staff? If we don't improve next year?

I think he's a good defensive mind and an upcoming coach and that may be enough to get us to the playoffs next year, but this offense needs to improve as well next year to be considered a playoff threat to me.

re: when do we start blaming the coaching staff? If we don't improve next year? (Posted on 1/26/13 at 4:37 pm to tehchampion140)

quote:Seriously, you're giving him no credit for taking a good roster to the playoffs, yet you're dogging him for having a losing record 2 years in a row with 2 of the least talented teams in the league.

They were bounced in the first round. That's with CP and Ariza playing at an elite level. Does that impress you? Look what CP did for Vinny Del Negro last year.. That's right, I said Vinny Del Negro, that great coach.

Two years in a row we will be competing for the best lottery ping pong ball. Does that satisfy you?

re: when do we start blaming the coaching staff? If we don't improve next year? (Posted on 1/26/13 at 4:49 pm to 42)

quote:42

You remind me of the white cop (Hoppy)in the show "Sanford and Son". You know when they come to Fred's house and he tries to explain to Fred and Lamont what's going on. He uses all these fancy words and everybody looks at the black cop (Smitty) to find out what the hell he just said.

re: when do we start blaming the coaching staff? If we don't improve next year? (Posted on 1/26/13 at 5:05 pm to Gtothemoney)

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They were bounced in the first round. That's with CP and Ariza playing at an elite level. Does that impress you? Look what CP did for Vinny Del Negro last year.. That's right, I said Vinny Del Negro, that great coach.

So CP + Ariza > CP + Griffin + Jordan + Caron + Kenyon Martin? Not to mention they were in an evenly matched first round series and then got shite on by the Spurs in the next round.

You seem dead set on not believing Monty is a very good coach because he couldn't take a shitty team to the playoffs and lost to the Lakers while they were still a great team with one of the more talented starting fives in the entire league.

re: when do we start blaming the coaching staff? If we don't improve next year? (Posted on 1/26/13 at 5:10 pm to Jester)

quote:Two people acted like borderline retards in this thread. I don't think I need to name names.

I love the name calling. I just said that Williams is young and unproven. I hope he gets better and the team turns it around, but he's not one of the best coaches in the league. Hopefully he will be one day, but he isn't yet. In my mind, one of the best means top 5 or so.. Well I'd rank Pop, Carlisle, Karl, Rivers and Thibodeau way before him and I could make arguments for Frank, Adelman and Collins. So if best in the league means around top 10-15 or so (out of 30) then I'm wrong. Just the way I took it..

re: when do we start blaming the coaching staff? If we don't improve next year? (Posted on 1/26/13 at 5:13 pm to VOR)

quote:Look, Monty has to do something next year, no doubt. But he and Demps have been in a tough situation from day one, and I think they've done a good job, all things considered. Next year is the true test.

re: when do we start blaming the coaching staff? If we don't improve next year? (Posted on 1/26/13 at 5:16 pm to tehchampion140)

quote:You seem dead set on not believing Monty is a very good coach because he couldn't take a shitty team to the playoffs and lost to the Lakers while they were still a great team with one of the more talented starting fives in the entire league.

The only thing I'm dead set on is trying to hear why he's a great coach with the track record he has. Ok, obviously that's not gonna happen. You tell me, when will you be tired of this lack of production?

re: when do we start blaming the coaching staff? If we don't improve next year? (Posted on 1/26/13 at 5:20 pm to Gtothemoney)

I'll be upset when he can't get us anywhere when he has a good team to work with. He's got this team with a winning record right now when everyone's healthy, so I think that's fairly impressive. If he can even get us to around the 10th spot in the west by the end of the year then I'll consider it an overall good job for the season, especially when we started it out so poorly.

re: when do we start blaming the coaching staff? If we don't improve next year? (Posted on 1/26/13 at 5:32 pm to tehchampion140)

Dude, it's called adversity. Every coach has to deal with it. Players get injured. Players underperform. You only get a pass for a certain amount of time. So next year when EG gets hurt, or when Rivers needs another year to develop, Monty gets a pass again?

re: when do we start blaming the coaching staff? If we don't improve next year? (Posted on 1/26/13 at 5:38 pm to Gtothemoney)

quote:Dude, it's called adversity. Every coach has to deal with it. Players get injured. Players underperform. You only get a pass for a certain amount of time. So next year when EG gets hurt, or when Rivers needs another year to develop, Monty gets a pass again?