They eventually called it a balk, an illegal pitch( he threw home after disengaging the rubber)
But I think they half blew the call, the batter was hit by the illegal pitch there was R1 at 1st they moved r1 to 2nd returned batter to plate?? since the criteria to ignore the balk was met by the HBP why not ignore the balk?????

They eventually called it a balk, an illegal pitch( he threw home after disengaging the rubber)
But I think they half blew the call, the batter was hit by the illegal pitch there was R1 at 1st they moved r1 to 2nd returned batter to plate?? since the criteria to ignore the balk was met by the HBP why not ignore the balk?????

Apparently the umps ruled that the batter was not hit by the pitch. that would be the only legal explanation to their solution. You got to love the WTF look on the pu's face. He had no idea. Not sure if the ball hit batter or not. Would not surprise me if it did.

Looks like a balk followed by a wild throw. Call time at the end of playing action and I think after the ball is returned to the infield. Since there was no playing action maybe that ball at the backstop didn't need to be returned to the infield. This being said with time to ponder. Real time I'm in the WTF club.

It looked to me like Verlander disengaged from the pitcher's plate. He jumps like a it's gonna be a jab step or a jump spin or whatever, but doesn't the first foot that hits the ground the pivlot foot? And doesn't hit hit the ground behind the pitcher's plate?

It looked to me like Verlander disengaged from the pitcher's plate. He jumps like a it's gonna be a jab step or a jump spin or whatever, but doesn't the first foot that hits the ground the pivlot foot? And doesn't hit hit the ground behind the pitcher's plate?

This is what I would have had a week ago.

Problem is that after another long thread on a similar jab move/disengagement, most of the folks insisted that a simultaneous move of the free foot toward 1B and disengagement of the Pivot foot was not good enough. Most folks felt F1 must desengage first,in a separate movement, then F1 is free to step, throw, or whatever. Most did not like the jab step, even though the pivot foot landed behind the rubber.