Back And Forth

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on December 3, 2017

Still sorting out my Stanton thoughts. On one hand, it is completely pathetic (and a perceived easy way out) to offer up multiple good players AND agree to take on all that money. It would be easier to tolerate if the team would just admit they made massive mistakes with the long term deals Belt and Craw got. But whatever, the “its not my $$$” reasoning plays well here….

On the other hand who wouldn’t want Stanton in the middle of their line up? Assuming health, he instantly makes us better. And since I have zero faith in Sabean and Evans to go into full rebuild mode, this might be the only chance we get to improve the team enough to not finish in last place next year.

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they are hardly offering multiple good players if it’s Panik Beede and Shaw. Bottom line is what they put around Stanton—they still need another good hitter or two in the LU to score more runs. So lux tax takes a bigger hit.

I was thinking about Girardi and managers in general. Baseball Prospectus used to rate them. Seems to me baseball would be hardest major sport to manage with all the inherent failure of hitting.

Watching Giants last year, Jones Sando Pence Craw Parker etc flail away at the plate had to drive anyone nuts. Plus pen guys who would come in get behind hitters and make situations worse. How much could you watch before you went off, on coaches/players? And the more explosive types just don’t last, and with today’s salaries would just get tuned out.

Even in Girardi’s case, Aaron Judge went through a stretch after HR Derby where he was awful and struck out endlessly. How do you hold it in and not let bench or hitting coach have it—‘WTF is he swinging at?”

The Giants overpaying as usual but every day that goes by I am less confident Booby pulls this off. If the club takes on all that cash there’s no reason to give up Panik or Shaw for that matter. I don’t think Panik is anything special but he’s still controllable and fills a need. If they hold onto him the LU is still heavily slanted to left handed hitters, which really makes no sense with half the schedule at AT&T. If they do somehow acquire Stanton I wouldn’t be surprised to see Slater get reps in CF as he’s played there at lower levels. Guess where else he’s spent a lot of time? 2b.

Sources: #Marlins have agreed to general framework of Giancarlo Stanton trades with both #STLCards and #SFGiants; the deals are on hold, while Marlins wait for Stanton to inform them whether he’d accept either trade. @MLB@MLBNetwork

Plus no team and literally there is no team that is willing to take on Dee Gordon. That is our trump card. We are so desperate that we are willing to add in $39 mill for 3 years of Gordon to get Stanton. The $250 mill we end paying for Giancarlo’s contract compensates the difference in adding Dee Gordon…can they move Belt now to save a major luxury tax hit and a miracle that Marlins take Spam back for also some luxury tax insurance.

Chiefs are unraveling!
Never have I seen a player (Marcus Peters) go ballastic on a simple 2 pt conversion try as another Chief is called for holding in the end zone, picks up the Refs yellow flag and tosses it into the stands, funny as fuck as this dude’s posing holding the flag while all his buddies are snapping pics for Instagram around him!Hilarious!!

“Jeff Passan
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Sources: Shohei Ohtani continues to narrow the field for his meetings next week. The New York Yankees are out. The San Francisco Giants are one of the finalists. The Seattle Mariners also are in.
3:09 PM – Dec 3, 2017”

Why he wants no part of NY or Boston for that matter…Dodgers cant guarantee him a spot in their OF and Mariners perenially losers (and there was that story about Ohtani wanting to be the sole Japanese player on a roster…check mark with the Giants).

After this great championship run since 2010, this next week is going to be a franchise turning point as it was when out of nowhere we signed Bonds after the ’92 season…

I laid out the argument over the summer how we could land Stanton and believe I was first one here after that 60 minutes story promoting the Giants sign Ohtani. I think we nail both this week…stick Ohtani in CF and see what happens and let him pitch relief. Limit his appearances so that he becomes a David Price like pitcher when he first came up for the Rays in their playoff run…a mystery.

If he proves to be a true stud pitcher, this could be the perfect prep year for then to be in the rotation in 2019…

And probably one of the pitches the brass made to Giancarlo last week in LA was that they were going to go after Ohtani big time and will be able to spend much more in 2019 going after a Donaldson…but my favorite pastime:)

And likewise, the pitch they make to Ohtani this week will focus on how they are in on Giancarlo to be hyper competitive and they will open the door for him to play in the field nearly daily and pitch often in relief…