Marcvader
Gotcha, the thing is at least for me I don't want science involved when it comes to Thor. I liken the Norse gods to Greek or Roman gods. Just like there's a mythological place called Mount Olympus there's Asgard. I just picture these fictional places as misty faraway lands where they can watch us from afar. Now where do we literally place them, I don't know but to me the explanation has to be more magical or fantasy than scientific.

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That's like turning the Lord of the Rings into a Sci Fi movie. It's fundamentally flawed.

LOTR is a total fantasy film with no roots in our world... Thor on the other hand does have roots in our world. So that example is off. Not to mention that while the Thor movie may or may not be in a totally fantasy-film setting, the Avengers will not be. So, I see this being a bit problematic for the acceptance of the character and his involvement with characters like Ironman... But again, I will relegate this discussion to being a matter of opinion.

And I agree completely that the Pyms need to be central to the core team. If Antman gets a movie, then the backstory can be provided there. If not, then they can become involved outside of filming, with dialoque could set the stage for their backstory.

I can't really see the Pym's being a selling point but I know why fans want them in. I don't think audiences will like Pym. I think Marvel will go with the smart sell of Tony, Cap and Bruce.

I ddn't say he's more important on the grand-scale, but he's a much more important AVENGER. After the trinity (Steve, Tony, Thor) the Pyms are possibly the most important avengers. Other than forming the team, Hulk has very little to do with the avengers.

If anything the three it will be built around will be Cap, Iron Man and Thor, the marvel trinity; considering Hulk's movie didn't light the box office aflame, I can see him having a slightly lesser role than Cap or Iron Man.

Hank is one of the world's best minds, on par with say Tony Stark. Maybe he was one of SHIELD's brightest minds before Stark Industries began to overshadow him. As we go on, Hank feels less and less important to the team. He is constantly trying to become relevant again, not for SHIELD, but for himself. The others make him feel small, so it is ironic his power is he can shrink. I see this lack of self-respect leading down a path of ignoring/poorly treating Janet, since I doubt they'll make him a wife beater, and possibly drive her away from him entirely out of jealousy. This lack of self-respect I see also driving him to attempt to create something that will overshadow anything Stark or anyone has done. I see this invention going horrbily wrong in the sequel: Ultron. He is a tragic figure. He had the brains and the resources, but he never suceeded the way Stark or others have. It eats at him all the time. And he knows it is his own fault.

Pym is one of the greatest underused characters in comics. This is how I'd approach the character if I were writing the Avengers.

I ddn't say he's more important on the grand-scale, but he's a much more important AVENGER. After the trinity (Steve, Tony, Thor) the Pyms are possibly the most important avengers. Other than forming the team, Hulk has very little to do with the avengers.

If anything the three it will be built around will be Cap, Iron Man and Thor, the marvel trinity; considering Hulk's movie didn't light the box office aflame, I can see him having a slightly lesser role than Cap or Iron Man.

I know you didn't say that. But I didn't say you did. As for more important. I am pretty sure the fans would rather see the big three like I said then Ant man or Giant man. That's just from my opinion. Every none fan but big movie fan I have talked to would rather see Hulk, Cap and Iron Man than Ant Man

What I said is what I would think from Marvel's point of view. They would use the characters audiences are more used to. Whether Antman can sell is unsure but Hulk and Iron Man already did good, well Hulk did okay, and Cap is one of the biggest in Marvel so if I were them that's what I would do. I could see Pym as more of a side character or the one who brings them all together.

Also, Edgar Wright said Antman will NOT be a comedy but will have funny events and things in it.

Hank is one of the world's best minds, on par with say Tony Stark. Maybe he was one of SHIELD's brightest minds before Stark Industries began to overshadow him. As we go on, Hank feels less and less important to the team. He is constantly trying to become relevant again, not for SHIELD, but for himself. The others make him feel small, so it is ironic his power is he can shrink. I see this lack of self-respect leading down a path of ignoring/poorly treating Janet, since I doubt they'll make him a wife beater, and possibly drive her away from him entirely out of jealousy. This lack of self-respect I see also driving him to attempt to create something that will overshadow anything Stark or anyone has done. I see this invention going horrbily wrong in the sequel: Ultron. He is a tragic figure. He had the brains and the resources, but he never suceeded the way Stark or others have. It eats at him all the time. And he knows it is his own fault.

Pym is one of the greatest underused characters in comics. This is how I'd approach the character if I were writing the Avengers.

I know you didn't say that. But I didn't say you did. As for more important. I am pretty sure the fans would rather see the big three like I said then Ant man or Giant man. That's just from my opinion. Every none fan but big movie fan I have talked to would rather see Hulk, Cap and Iron Man than Ant Man

What I said is what I would think from Marvel's point of view. They would use the characters audiences are more used to. Whether Antman can sell is unsure but Hulk and Iron Man already did good, well Hulk did okay, and Cap is one of the biggest in Marvel so if I were them that's what I would do. I could see Pym as more of a side character or the one who brings them all together.

Also, Edgar Wright said Antman will NOT be a comedy but will have funny events and things in it.

I get what you're saying, but that event is one of the key moments in his comic history. I doubt we'll ever see it on screen, but it makes sense how it occured considering his history.

Ant-Man is a character that was always overshadowed. He was created to be the next big hero, but unlike many of Stan Lee's creations, he never took off. He is overshadowed. They've tried to revamp him to make him a major character, but those ideas never quite take off. It is quite ironic the guy who shrinks is always overlooked.

I get what you're saying, but that event is one of the key moments in his comic history. I doubt we'll ever see it on screen, but it makes sense how it occured considering his history.

Ant-Man is a character that was always overshadowed. He was created to be the next big hero, but unlike many of Stan Lee's creations, he never took off. He is overshadowed. They've tried to revamp him to make him a major character, but those ideas never quite take off. It is quite ironic the guy who shrinks is always overlooked.

Hence why I'd approach Pym in this manner on screen.

It's funny, because Pym was actually Lee's first solo hero post-F4. Before Hulk, Spider-Man, Thor, and Iron Man, there was Ant-Man.