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In general SubSeed is a terrible predictable strategy that doesn't really accomplish anything fast enough. A few Pokes can do it well enough. To SubSeed you need to do something ELSE (Whimiscott is horrible, never use it).

Yeah, Breloom is probably the best since it has Poison Heal and...the other stuff. Shaymin is kinda neat since, besides SubSeed, it can mess with a handful of Pokemon with a powerful Seed Flare and random SpD drops, but even then I'd rather just run an offensive set with Rest. I guess that's the main problem with SubSeed sets: it's hard to find a reason to use it over other sets. Breloom has it nice because Focus Punch also takes advantage of the Sub and, between Leech Seed and Poison Heal, it can spam Sub and have its health remain relatively unchanged. Whimiscott also uses it a lot because...that's about all it can do. Other Pokemon, like Sceptile and Shaymin, have other sets that are usually far more appealing.

O god, we have gotten to the point where we just name our favorites on things >.<

Anyways, I think protect can almost always be used over substitute. I think see period can do the job fairly well, as well as ferrothorn (if it learns sub)

Um...The title kinda has favorite in it's name.

Yeah, of course Ferrothorn gets substitute. It's like protect, almost every pokemon gets it. Speaking of which, I've seen a SubSeed Ferrothorn before. It was a pain in the rear. It pretty much played like a Substitute/Protect Gliscor, except that I could get over the status by swapping out...and let more of those darn hazards stack.

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Yep we should ban baton pass, and weather too. Oh and Trick Room, I'm tired of having to worry about Trick Room all the time. Just ban the move Trick Room, and prankster, it's broken. Ban all status moves on prankster users, they're too cheap. Oh and ban Probopass to it's so cheap. Just ban everything except Magikarp with splash.

Well, actually Blaziken isn't really Uber because some people whined about how they were getting owned by it. I mean, it doesn't stand a chance in the Uber enviroment.

Basically any Scarfer OHKOes it before it can get a Leech Seed in and Sub. ScarfOgre can live a Seed Flare and Ice Beam you into oblivion. Zekrom OHKOes with Bolt Strike, I'm pretty sure. Reshiram, let's not even go there.

Originally Posted by jle1076

Sceptile is the fastest decent SubSeeder

SubSeed Shaymin-S sort of sucks for the reasons listed above, but it's better and faster than Sceptile.

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Yep we should ban baton pass, and weather too. Oh and Trick Room, I'm tired of having to worry about Trick Room all the time. Just ban the move Trick Room, and prankster, it's broken. Ban all status moves on prankster users, they're too cheap. Oh and ban Probopass to it's so cheap. Just ban everything except Magikarp with splash.

Well, actually Blaziken isn't really Uber because some people whined about how they were getting owned by it. I mean, it doesn't stand a chance in the Uber enviroment.

Personally, in OU I like using Shaymin, as it can help lure in and deal with Scizor, once they realise it's SubSeed, and then their Scizor's gone for the rest of the match. It also has powerful moves that can do damage, while it can outlast Dragonite, as well as many others.

I liked running SubSeed Venusaur in the Sun at one point. First turn you'd Sleep Powder, then Sub as they switch out, and then set a Leech on them. It could deal with any opposing grass types with a sun boosted Hidden Power [Fire], letting it lure in certain threats such as Ferrothorn, who thought it was safe to wall.

Other SubSeeders don't catch my eye because they have no interesting features. Breloom is the only one other than those two (and personally I don't think Venusaur is good, it's just fun) that seems remotely interesting, as it can actually KO some stuff, unlike Whimsicott.

Nah, Breloom doesn't get the title. I mean, sure, it's pretty good with Poison Heal and whatnot, but really Breloom should be doing other stuff. Namely punching things.

I would say Ludicolo. In the Rain, with Rain Dish, it recovers as much as Breloom does and it has the advantage of better defences, arguably better typing and Ice Beam to deal with Grass Types that are immune to Leech Seed. Ferrothorn? What Ferrothorn?