Category Archives: Being Popular or Being Right

When I posted my criticisms of SourceFed, some people had some questions as to my methodology to proving them wrong. I am ignoring the stupids for the time being and am only focusing on the reasonable questions. I explain why I didn’t respond to parts of SourceFed’s video.

On the final Liberal Dan Radio episode of 2015 I will be discussing some of the big issues from the past year.

I will also be discussing some more recent subjects including (but not limited to) the primaries, the so called Sanders “data breach”, the recent Ted Cruz children political cartoon, and Trump’s supposed “vulgarity”.

This will lead us to a discussion on fauxtroversies, made up controversies. Are people too quick to anger? Are people just that much more offensive these days? Is it a little of both.

Those issues and my annual night before the war on Xmas at 9pm central on Liberal Dan Radio: Talk From The Left, That’s Right.

The “Food Babe” is getting a lot of negative publicity this week with a well written article on Gawker that is clearly showing the idocy of her and her followers. A counter group called “Banned By Food Babe” is cited the article. And since both the Liberal Dan Radio twitter accound and my personal twitter account has been banned by one of the people contributing to the stupification of America, I fit right in. Sure we have some differences but if you have been blocked/banned by the “Food Babe” by all means check this group out .

More information has come out about the Indiana law that would allow for anti-gay discrimination. I will further discuss this issue.

I will also be discussing the murder of Walter Scott.

Those issues, tweet of the week, headlines, and more on Liberal Dan Radio: Talk From The Left That’s Right, Thursdays at 8pm Central on Blog Talk Radio.

Please go check out this video from “Louder with Crowder” before reading any further (if you have not already done so).

Now, if your head has not already exploded from his many flawed arguments (or if you are still not seeing the flawed arguments made by Mr. Crowder) please allow me to illuminate you.

1) He starts off the video getting the argument wrong. This is not about bakers refusing to make wedding cakes with specific designs on them. This is about bakers refusing to make wedding cakes for gay people. Need proof of this? Look at the Colorado case that pretty much spawned much of the debate over this issue. The baker did not refuse the design. The baker refused to serve them because they are gay.

Let me be clear. A baker would be more than free to say no to designing any cake that was deemed objectionable. Let’s say you had a baker who followed halal, kept Kosher, or had a vegetarian kitchen. If a gay customer wanted a wedding cake that had frosting flavored with real bacon, the baker could freely reject the customer who was gay. The basis for the rejection would be absolutely legal. Let’s take another example. Let’s say a baker would refuse to create objectionable artwork like genitals on a cake. That baker would likely oppose making such a cake for anybody regardless of sexual orientation. Such a customer could be turned away, gay or not.

So this clearly is not about making a “fabulous” cake. This is about refusing to serve people who are in homosexual relationships. With that being said, you could likely take the rest of the video with a grain of salt. Any point made after the initial argument would be based on a false premise and would automatically be false. But let’s take a look and see what other faulty arguments Mr. Crowder can make.

2) Why does it matter what they do in Iran, or the Middle East, or even Canada? Those countries are not a part of America. We are discussing the laws in our states, not the laws of other countries. So what other countries do is irrelevant. But let’s see what he is trying to say by mentioning what these other countries do (especially in the Middle East). The assumption that any person watching his video is likely to make is that he is saying persons who are gay should be happy with their lives here in America because if they were living somewhere else, they would likely be dead for their sexual orientation. This of course is not a very good argument to make. Just because one could have it worse off somewhere else doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t seek to have it better here. This is America. We are supposed to be the greatest nation on the planet. We should strive to be the best, and not just “a little better than Iran or Canada”.

Furthermore, I could also turn this around on Mr. Crowder. A Christian in the Middle East might not be able to open a bakery. If they did, and they denied to bake a cake for a wedding they might not agree with (say a Muslim wedding), what might happen to that person? All we are doing here in America is asking them to bake a cake for persons who are gay and are getting married. So shouldn’t he just be happy with the way things are and being “forced” to make people who are gay cakes? No? That argument doesn’t work? Didn’t think so. It also doesn’t work when you use it on persons who are gay.

3) His point at the end about how he felt like they were going to blow him up? Disgusting. Plain and simple.

So there you have it. Mr. Crowder starts his argument from an incorrect premise and it continues to fall apart over the course of the video. Seems like Mr. Crowder was more interested in being popular than being right.

The topics of several recent shows come together to form this show. It is kind of like a Voltron of bigotry and internet stupidity. I will be continuing my discussion about the law in Indiana, what Governor Pense is claiming that he will do about it now, and why other states laws are nothing like the Indiana law that was just recently passed.

I will also talk about the Conservative backlash to criticism of the Indiana law and why they are following the same formula I described previously in a show (i.e.that it is more important on the internet to be popular than to be correct).

Those issues,headlines, tweet of the week, and more this week on Liberal Dan Radio: Talk From The Left, That’s Right.

If you want to help support the show, either by buying advertising or by just making a small contribution to help me expand, pelase check out the Liberal Dan Radio Go Fund Me page.

One such meme posted by “Chicks on the Right” states that Apple CEO Tim Cook won’t do business in Indiana because he can’t “tolerate discrimination” against Gays but will do business in countries where homosexual acts are punishable by death.

First problem with the meme. While the article does contain the words “never tolerate discrimination” it does not assert, or even imply, that Apple as a company or Tim Cook personally will stop doing business in Indiana. In fact, it says the opposite. It states that Apple is open for business to anyone. Apple is not closing up shop in Indiana. It is not going to refuse to sell you an iPhone or iPad or other iDevice to you if your address is contained within the borders of Indiana. So on its face the meme is a lie. He is not a hypocrite for doing business in those other countries because he hasn’t even stopped doing business in Indiana.

The website “the week” author Shikha Dalmia cites Cook’s editorial claims that Cook is calling for a “business boycott of Indiana”. Do a search on the editorial for yourself. There is no mention of the word “boycott” anywhere. And from her article in Reason.com she cites herself in her article from The Week to attack Cook for the boycott that doesn’t exist, claiming that the boycott is irresponsible. Good job there Dalmia. Cite yourself as proof that Cook is doing what he isn’t. So much for journalistic integrity.

But even if this was not about what Cook, or Apple, does as it pertains to business, it still shows another problem in political debate today. I have a Conservative friend on facebook in particular who will often ask me why I have not spoken out about a particular event (that he deems similar to other things that I have complained about). He doesn’t take the time to determine if I have heard about the event in question or to even allow me to consider if that event is actually related to those other things that I am complaining about .He will just assert a level of hypocrisy on my part for not standing up and complaining about that particular event since I claim to stand up for all events of that type.

Here is the problem with this logic. It basically means that in order for me to be an advocate against racism (the most frequent kind of topic he will bring up) that I have to know of every single possible racist event that has happened recently and my failure to address each and every one of them supposedly weakens my overall argument. His position is, of course, ridiculous. I cannot possibly be expected to know about every single wrong that has taken place to every single person in this country. I also cannot be expected to know about every single event that has taken place that he will wrongly connect with the things I advocate for. Furthermore, even if I did know about each and every one of them I cannot be expected to make a comment about each an every one of them. So the idea that my failure to comment on each and every item proves that I am some sort of hypocrite is obviously flawed as well. So even if we wanted to bring this meme, or the arguments of others making similar arguments, down to the “well why isn’t Tim Cook talking about every single bad thing that happens to persons who are Gay”, it is still a ridiculous argument that these Conservatives* are making and their attempts to be popular at the cost of being wrong should be called out.

All Cook has said was that we shouldn’t tolerate discrimination against gay people, even if it is in under the guise of religious freedom. He hasn’t called for boycotts. He hasn’t said that Apple will stop doing business in Indiana. So any editorial, meme, facebook post, tweet, blog entry, etc that starts with such b.s. should be closed and ignored with great haste.

*As a side note, liberal people have also done the same thing to me previously. This is not a left/right thing. This is purely a “better to be popular than right” thing.