Quoting Quiverfull: Respond Like Jesus?

Has your husband reviled you and threatened you? You are exhorted to respond as Jesus did… You husband will answer to God, and you must answer to God for how you respond to your husband, eve when he cause you to suffer.

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Jesus was ultimately killed by those who reviled and threatened him. If all women in dangerous, abusive marriages took this charming exhortation to its logical conclusion, the morgues would be piled high with the bodies of women who suffered in silence up to the point of death at the hands of their husbands, while Michael Pearl shouted, “Hallelujah!” every time the body count rose.

madame

Michael Pearl is only right in one thing: wives won’t be held accountable for the abuse their husbands inflicted on them. Nobody will be held accountable for the abuse they endured. I don’t think God will further chastise someone who, in good faith, stayed in a dangerous marriage, either, as it has been implied at times. If He is good, then He will never judge someone for doing what seemed right, be it staying or leaving!

http://biblicalpersonhood.wordpress.com Retha

Jesus was less than two years old when he first let people (his parents) take him away from a threat to his life. Later, he stayed away from places because his enemies wanted to kill him. He accepted it at crucifiction because He knew that this particular situation had a huge purpose!

So, if you want to learn from Jesus how to treat those who revile and threaten you, a)let people take you away from threats, stay away from those who threaten, accept it only if you knew there is, in this particular situation, a huge purpose to it.

Jesus also called some people who threatened and reviled him vipers and hypocrites – and directly told them they cannot escape God’s wrath. If you want to do as Jesus did, know when a threatening, reviling partner deserve to hear he is the bad guy – and tell him he is.

http://biblicalpersonhood.wordpress.com Retha

These words were about “respond as Jesus did.”

http://biblicalpersonhood.wordpress.com Retha

Michael Pearl said: “respond as Jesus did”

This reminds me of why I never, even though I love Jesus and even as a fundie, would have worn a WWJD bracelet. Almost all the times people said “this is what Jesus would have done” they had a very limited picture of Jesus, and talked as if, for example, Jesus always accepted bad-mouthing of Himself, never would have called a church person’s behavior wrong, etc. But Jesus often very clearly called people wrong (called Peter Satan, for example, and often said things about the pharisees). Am I sure that this situation is one in which Jesus would have responded in a gentle way, or a harsh way? To be honest, I seldom knew. However, I know I was often in situations where I simply could not say what Jesus would have done, as Jesus would not have been in that situation. For a relevant example, Jesus would not have married or promised to submit at marriage, so how Jesus would have responded if He was the wife of the abusive husband is impossible to answer.

Lolly

So if I see how abusive spouses are treating marriage, I can burst in there and flip a few tables, right?

BabyRaptor

I have no real hopes of god being good, if he exists. You’re talking about the deity who created humans knowing he’d end up sending most of us to hell, because he designed us unable to fulfill his commands. That’s not good, or love, or justice…Its sadistic and sick.

Kimberly

LIKE!

Kimberly

LIKE! Sounds doctrinally sound to me!

Kimberly

Very good points.

KarenH

It’s maybe not what Jesus would do, but seriously I would love to kick Michael Pearl in his …. er …. pearls.

Brennan

Word. He let himself be crucified once. He gave the bad guys the slip and got the hell out of his hometown *at least* twice.

http://www.facebook.com/revsharkie Sharla Hulsey

Pretty sure Jesus would.

Rae

Don’t forget to chase him out with a whip!

http://lyricalpolyphony.blogspot.com Mary

If that’s your view of God, yes. Thankfully, all faith is not predicated on such sadism.

http://lyricalpolyphony.blogspot.com Mary

YES.

http://lyricalpolyphony.blogspot.com Mary

Wait….. didn’t Jesus say something about drowning being mercy compared to the eternal punishment for those who’d harm an innocent kid? How are abused women any different? Also, you know in the end of Matthew where it talks about stuff that’s going to happen in the future… yeah….. it doesn’t say “when bad stuff comes, stand your ground and enjoy the privilege of martyrdom.” I believe it’s more “flee.” As in, get thee outta there. Also….. according to the Bible, Jesus was all-powerful. He was there by choice; a victim he was not. So….. for the victim of abuse to follow his example of silence before Pilate doesn’t make a lot of sense. Jesus came to “free the captives, bring justice to the oppressed..” Michael Pearl is nuts. No part of this is remotely logical, even for the most strident biblical literalist.

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