thebigblastula - I have seen too many Marines/Army guys get KO'd to have an image of them as "tough" in my head.

Pure toughness, as a concept, I go fighter. Marines don't deal with broken noses and continuing on, marines don't lose and have to rethink everything, etc.

In a fight for my life, I go Marine, because they have knife and gun experience that the fighter doesn't, and the same way the fighter would whoop the Marine's ass 100/100 times because he just knows better technique, a Marine will outperform (and kill) a fighter there 100/100 times.

Are you really this stupid? "Marines don't deal with broken noses and continuing on" No, they deal with getting shot, taking shrapnel, and a myriad of other life threatening injuries and continue fighting, or try to survive till medics can reach them or they can be transported to the hospital. Oh, and if a marine loses in battle it most likey means they are dead, so no, they don't have to rethink everything.

It is an invalid quesiton. You can't compare a prize fighter to a war fighter. You are comparing two completely different things.

But as a service member the mental strain that gets put on you in those condititons is far worse than anything in a cage imo. The mental stress of losing a fight doesn't compare to the mental stress of potentially losing your life.

SAN DIEGO – Harbor police had a young military enlistee in custody within minutes of running onto the tarmac at San Diego Lindbergh Field early Thursday, authorities said.

“We were able to handcuff him and immediately we recognized that he was a Marine recruit,” said harbor police Lt. John Forsythe.

A 22-year-old recruit escaped the Marine Corps Recruit Depot, which is adjacent to San Diego’s airport, after four days of enlistment. He was caught on the tarmac near Gate 6 in Terminal 1 about 6:30 a.m. after jumping two razor-sharp fences.

The unidentified recruit was found in his boxer shorts, evidently removing his pants so they wouldn’t get snagged on the barbed wire fence, tripping the first of many security alarms.

Forsythe said the recruit was injured from the “jump to freedom.” He was taken to a local hospital to be treated.

Forsythe said this isn’t the first time police have responded to this type of incident.

“[Recruits] somehow thought if they could get in the terminal – which once you get on the airfield you can’t even get into the terminal without setting off a lot of alarms,” he said. “He hadn’t even got to the tough part yet. They see the airport as freedom on the other side and I don’t think they develop a plan.”

Forsythe served in the Marine before he became a police officer and knows firsthand what being a recruit is about.

“I don’t know what was in his mind, but some people don’t prepare for boot camp,” he said. “Boot camp is very tough on you physically and mentally. We used to get people running from there all the time.”

“In the 80s and 90s, we used to get them a lot,” said Forsythe adding, in years past a lot of recruits tried to jump the fence.

It’s unclear what he will face back at the base, but if prosecuted he could face misdemeanor trespassing and felony car theft.

"The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps!" ------Eleanor Roosevelt, First Lady of the United States, 1945

Falling into both categories of course I have to say something. While I enjoy the aura that surrounds "Marines" in the public eye, the truth of the argument comes down to the same thing it does when you ask if one MA is better than another. Truth is it depends on the individual.

Two quick reasons you cannot compare them other than those mentioned already are they have different goals and one is a team sport! Speaking of combat, I have no desire to get close enough for you to punch or grapple with me. I would prefer to shoot you with a rifle or even better IDF. When I fight, I am trying my best to get my hands on you. And it is just me in there with my opponent. In combat if it does come to hand to hand, I only need to keep you busy enough till my three best friends show up in seconds. :)

bknumber1 -
Falling into both categories of course I have to say something. While I enjoy the aura that surrounds "Marines" in the public eye, the truth of the argument comes down to the same thing it does when you ask if one MA is better than another. Truth is it depends on the individual.

Two quick reasons you cannot compare them other than those mentioned already are they have different goals and one is a team sport! Speaking of combat, I have no desire to get close enough for you to punch or grapple with me. I would prefer to shoot you with a rifle or even better IDF. When I fight, I am trying my best to get my hands on you. And it is just me in there with my opponent. In combat if it does come to hand to hand, I only need to keep you busy enough till my three best friends show up in seconds. :)

Yea but I just found the baddest and toughest Fucka here:

"Sergeant Major Daniel Joseph "Dan" Daly (November 11, 1873 – April 27, 1937) was a United States Marine and one of only nineteen men (including seven Marines) to have received the Medal of Honor twice. Of the Marines who are double recipients, only Daly and Major General Smedley Butler received their Medals of Honor for two, separate actions.Daly is said to have yelled, "Come on, you sons of bitches! Do you want to live forever?" to the men in his company prior to charging the Germans during the Battle of Belleau Wood in World War I; Daly claimed he said, "For Christ's sake men--come on! Do you want to live forever?"[1]Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler described Daly as, "The fightin'est Marine I ever knew!" Daly reportedly was offered an officer's commission twice to which he responded that he would rather be, "...an outstanding sergeant than just another officer."[citation needed]

Also when you are a Marine you have the mental state of killing people. My uncle was a Marine and was on the ride to baghdad in iraq. He said you could hear bullets ricocheting off the side of the car he was in.

bknumber1 -
Falling into both categories of course I have to say something. While I enjoy the aura that surrounds "Marines" in the public eye, the truth of the argument comes down to the same thing it does when you ask if one MA is better than another. Truth is it depends on the individual.

Two quick reasons you cannot compare them other than those mentioned already are they have different goals and one is a team sport! Speaking of combat, I have no desire to get close enough for you to punch or grapple with me. I would prefer to shoot you with a rifle or even better IDF. When I fight, I am trying my best to get my hands on you. And it is just me in there with my opponent. In combat if it does come to hand to hand, I only need to keep you busy enough till my three best friends show up in seconds. :)

Yea but I just found the baddest and toughest Fucka here:

"Sergeant Major Daniel Joseph "Dan" Daly (November 11, 1873 – April 27, 1937) was a United States Marine and one of only nineteen men (including seven Marines) to have received the Medal of Honor twice. Of the Marines who are double recipients, only Daly and Major General Smedley Butler received their Medals of Honor for two, separate actions.Daly is said to have yelled, "Come on, you sons of bitches! Do you want to live forever?" to the men in his company prior to charging the Germans during the Battle of Belleau Wood in World War I; Daly claimed he said, "For Christ's sake men--come on! Do you want to live forever?"[1]Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler described Daly as, "The fightin'est Marine I ever knew!" Daly reportedly was offered an officer's commission twice to which he responded that he would rather be, "...an outstanding sergeant than just another officer."[citation needed]

He is one of our heroes. Recruits learn about him in boot camp. You want chills? Read the Medal of Honor citations.

bknumber1 - Falling into both categories of course I have to say something. While I enjoy the aura that surrounds "Marines" in the public eye, the truth of the argument comes down to the same thing it does when you ask if one MA is better than another. Truth is it depends on the individual.

Two quick reasons you cannot compare them other than those mentioned already are they have different goals and one is a team sport! Speaking of combat, I have no desire to get close enough for you to punch or grapple with me. I would prefer to shoot you with a rifle or even better IDF. When I fight, I am trying my best to get my hands on you. And it is just me in there with my opponent. In combat if it does come to hand to hand, I only need to keep you busy enough till my three best friends show up in seconds. :)

All of this is true. Marines have this aura of toughness but that's because of recruiting commercials and whatnot lol, a lot of shitbags fall through the cracks and skate their way through four years and get out. All the while bitching and complaining about how they hate it, but still have moto shit on their Facebook to impress Suzy Rottencrotch back home.

Same goes with mma fighters, I imagine. Any guy can join a gym, take a few bjj classes, spar, or maybe even fight a few amateur fights then quit with a losing record, and still boast that he was a professional or ammy mma fighter.

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