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MilburnCreek

I came to these forums because my doctor recommended POZ magazine, and i found the forums. As a gay man living with HIV, it seemed like a great place to 'grab a beer and chat,' as it were.

I have tried to ask honest questions that bothered me, only to be made fun of (one time being called an "AIDs-infested Queen" by a lomg-time poster who apparently felt he was bing cutesy-smart-ass...but not exactly a welcoming atmosphere). It started with my concerns receiving meds while living during the winter on Fire Island, and the avalanche of snotty answers all came from people....who dont live on Fire Island in the winter and have no more knowledge than hearsay and assumption.

When asked questions about testosterone replacement, I was skewered by my approach, in spite of the fact that I simply offered my own perspective without requiring agreement or acceptance. My reward was to be followed around on other threads by the same people and ridiculed for my appearance.

I make general suggestions for someone desiring vitamin supplementation to investigate selenium, I get snarky criticism and demands for links. (You can't do it it yourself?)

I have been very open with my name, my picture, my age, my stats. I am constantly carped at by frequent posters who don't have the balls to reveal much of anything of themselves except a desire to harass those they obviously want to leave.

To be fair, its only a small number of people - but its people who seem to live in this site every day and who get a twisted joy out of targetting people to see how they can tear them down.

For a site that exists to help others living with HIV, there's a high level of tolerance for those who would drive others away from their private playground.

As for my part in it I was only trying to point out steroid abuse as opposed to testosterone replacement for members struggling with fatigue and desperate for relief in a way that wont bring harm later on . You took it upon your self when some members questioned your reason for ignoring your doctors advice about steroids to come after me in another thread and since then you have been flexing your bod every chance you get because you didn't want to be criticised for your choices . You have engaged in the same behavior you are now claiming to be victimized by .

You are a welcome member here and if you ever need or want support you can count on me do do whatever I can . This I promise you .

I am pretty much with jk1962. I entered into a thread because I felt (and still feel) that your talk about excessive steroid abuse (and getting stuff off the street in addition to what is prescribed AND is also unknown to your doc IS abuse) was coming off as a glamorization of a potentially dangerous practice.

I stand by position on that. I feel I have to. I also have to agree with jg that a lot of this has been brought on by yourself in the sense that you clearly don't like to be disagreed with and become really snarky really fast.

As for the request for links...get used to it. This is standard forums procedure here, and it is asked of everyone for all but the most anecdotal and inconsequential things. ANYTHING related to meds or supplementation is gonna be held to that standard. It just is, and I am happy for it. It keeps the bar high for this site.

Most importantly, though, I agree with jg in his statement that, if you truly need support and reach a time of sincere need, you will find me among the ones who will step to the plate for you. This site exists most of all for such people - as many of the members here, perhaps many you don't read posts from frequently, are in rather dire straits. Folks who have petty requests and / or a sense of entitlement just need to toughen up. They'll be the better for it in the long run, certainly better equipped to survive through what is, despite medical advances, STILL a very serious and potentially life ENDING disease.

I am always leery of threads that start with: "Really Disappointed in the Nasty, Catty Cliques Here..." as that is not the way to start an adult discussion. As seems normal for these types of threads, you cast aspersions against a few "select" members, without ever making any attempt to address these issues directly and privately with the members involved.

Concerning your comment about members requesting links regarding selenium, we ask for such links in the hopes that the member has discovered something that may be beneficial to our members. The Web is vast and we have no idea about which source you are referencing with your comments, so we ask for a link. History has taught us that some posters like to make statements that have little basis in fact.

I also believe that you only have the right to complain about something, when you also propose solutions to rectify the situation. This reads to me as nothing more than another "bitch about others that I won't name" thread, whereas you seek to stifle open and honest communication, because some members dared to confront your choices and opinions.

You might want to consider that some folks respond to your attitude and views, as it always takes two to Tango.

Yes this forums suck all these fucking bitches can kiss my fucking ass . The people on there are bullies that's y I don't care if they die . ( well some)

I have some one from thebody ask me how I was doing in pm. Not some bullshit like this forum .

So andy do what you do best and be a bully and keep this forum being shit . Let people say shit that do have to do with HIV you fuck my have it longer then other but you still treat people with stigma .

You made them fell like shit we fell like at anyway good job. You bitches think you been here longer its ok .but I would never ask you dumb fucks anything you don't now how to talk to people there's not a forum to fuck with people .

Yes this forums suck all these fucking bitches can kiss my fucking ass . The people on there are bullies that's y I don't care if they die . ( well some)

I have some one from thebody ask me how I was doing in pm. Not some bullshit like this forum .

So andy do what you do best and be a bully and keep this forum being shit . Let people say shit that do have to do with HIV you fuck my have it longer then other but you still treat people with stigma .

You made them fell like shit we fell like at anyway good job. You bitches think you been here longer its ok .but I would never ask you dumb fucks anything you don't now how to talk to people there's not a forum to fuck with people .

And good fucking bye

Wow, way to make a statement. Not sure what that statement may be, but you sure told us!

Yes this forums suck all these fucking bitches can kiss my fucking ass . The people on there are bullies that's y I don't care if they die . ( well some)

I have some one from thebody ask me how I was doing in pm. Not some bullshit like this forum .

So andy do what you do best and be a bully and keep this forum being shit . Let people say shit that do have to do with HIV you fuck my have it longer then other but you still treat people with stigma .

You made them fell like shit we fell like at anyway good job. You bitches think you been here longer its ok .but I would never ask you dumb fucks anything you don't now how to talk to people there's not a forum to fuck with people .

And good fucking bye

Ive gone out of my way to be nice to you, but whatevs. Dont let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

Yes this forums suck all these fucking bitches can kiss my fucking ass . The people on there are bullies that's y I don't care if they die . ( well some)

I have some one from thebody ask me how I was doing in pm. Not some bullshit like this forum .

So andy do what you do best and be a bully and keep this forum being shit . Let people say shit that do have to do with HIV you fuck my have it longer then other but you still treat people with stigma .

You made them fell like shit we fell like at anyway good job. You bitches think you been here longer its ok .but I would never ask you dumb fucks anything you don't now how to talk to people there's not a forum to fuck with people .

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

(one time being called an "AIDs-infested Queen" by a lomg-time poster who apparently felt he was bing cutesy-smart-ass...but not exactly a welcoming atmosphere).

I can assure you that the people who use such phrases here use the same terminology - if not sometimes worse - to describe themselves at times.

These types of phrases are often thinly-veiled terms of endearment and empathy swathed in that weird testosterone-fueled attitude that so many men, gay and straight, seem to possess.

Don't ask me why, my brain is estrogen-fueled. I can only report on what I observe.

When someone is being really nasty here, it's pretty apparent. See above for a classic example, including its consequence.

Milburn, I'm not sure what you expected when you posted about your steroid misuse. To let such anecdotes go unchallenged would be to admit tacit support for your potentially dangerous actions.

There are many vulnerable people populating these boards desperately searching for safe health information. That's why people get testy when someone blithely talks about steroid misuse like it's some kind of hiv get-out-of-vanity-jail-free card.

The fact that people rely on this site for scientifically sound information is why we ask people to back up any claims with links to reputable sites with sound scientific information.

Milburn - instead of starting threads like this that are pretty much guaranteed to start a flame war (like you didn't know), I suggest you start using the report button so the other mods and I can know exactly who and what is bothering you.

Same goes for you, texaninnyc. You're constantly highjacking threads lately with complaints about this or that - complaints that are totally unrelated to the OP's post.

If either of you keep harping on like this in threads (often in highjacks), you'll be given time outs. Use the report button. That's what it's there for.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts