From The Fight Academy in Pasadena, CA, Karyn Bryant talks with MMA referee Herb Dean. Four days after UFC 166, Herb talks to Karyn about reffing the trilogy title fight between UFC heavyweight champ Cain Velasquez and Junior Dos Santos, why he didn’t stop the fight sooner and what signs he looks for when considering that course of action.

Herb also talks about running his own referee school, teaching MMA classes at Fight Academy and his relationship with pro fighters.

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I too thought about coming on here to psychologically condemn three people I don’t know. From my high and lofty moral space, after accomplishing all I have with my life, I thought that was a good idea.