i think you should read mark's blog post on rice. seems like white rice isn't so bad afterall.

"Don’t take this as blanket approval for immediate regular rice consumption, however. It’s not black and white. Rice exists on one end of the “grain suitability” continuum. You know how I’ve discussed the dairy continuum? Raw, grass-fed one on end and low-fat, homogenized, ultra-pasteurized on the other. It’s the same for grains. High-gluten wheat on one (very bad) end and rice on the other (don’t lose sleep if you eat it) end. Do I recommend ditching the entire group altogether, just to make things easy and avoid any possible irritants? Sure, but if grain consumption presents itself, or you literally are hamstrung by finances and simply need some calories, you shouldn’t beat yourself up over it just because you ate some white rice.

"Don’t take this as blanket approval for immediate regular rice consumption, however. It’s not black and white. Rice exists on one end of the “grain suitability” continuum. You know how I’ve discussed the dairy continuum? Raw, grass-fed one on end and low-fat, homogenized, ultra-pasteurized on the other. It’s the same for grains. High-gluten wheat on one (very bad) end and rice on the other (don’t lose sleep if you eat it) end. Do I recommend ditching the entire group altogether, just to make things easy and avoid any possible irritants? Sure, but if grain consumption presents itself, or you literally are hamstrung by finances and simply need some calories, you shouldn’t beat yourself up over it just because you ate some white rice.

i love how you make assumptions about what i did and didn't do. i didn't do low carb wrong. in fact i was hardcore low carb for nearly a year until i bonked. when you work out with bigboy weights, do lots of mountain biking, hiking, play sports, box, kayak, run sprints, etc, you need some extra carbs in your diet. i'm sure that if i came in here 50lbs overweight, and was sedentary, then low carb would be perfect for me. or if i wasn't that active. it worked for a while, and then it didn't.

i love how you make assumptions about what i did and didn't do. i didn't do low carb wrong. in fact i was hardcore low carb for nearly a year until i bonked. when you work out with bigboy weights, do lots of mountain biking, hiking, play sports, box, kayak, run sprints, etc, you need some extra carbs in your diet. i'm sure that if i came in here 50lbs overweight, and was sedentary, then low carb would be perfect for me. or if i wasn't that active. it worked for a while, and then it didn't.

Yep you did it wrong. You need to rest and give yourself a chance to adapt.

0-50 gms carb: probable ketosis. It fits if you keep it to one serving as described above.

If you double the serving size (so 70 grams of carbs), it fits into the next part of the curve. 50-100 gms of carb that is described as the "weight loss sweet spot."

So as far as carb amounts, white rice fits into the parameters for weight loss - if you very much watch the rest of your carb intake for the day.

It's not nutritionally great, so for people who have to eat calorically low, it's kind of a waste of calories when 150-300 calories of brightly colored veggies and certainly 150-300 calories of healthily raised meat or wild fish would nourish you more.

No matter the rationale, it's a grain.

So, in response to the original question... There are a lot of people here who know a ton about nutrition. There are a lot of people here who blindly follow the health guru of the month. There are a lot of people somewhere on that continuum. So, I guess some are and some aren't.

As for abrasive know it alls, this was addressed in a management class I took. They can often be fonts of info. Just sift through the bullshit and ego.