Re: Should You Wait Until You're Married to Kiss??? -
11-17-2014, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rev. Jim Osborne

Yes. Yes, you should.

Even if most of our heathen, libertine society thinks otherwise, kissing is a form of sex. And sex before marriage (fornication) is a terrible sin. Fornicators are right up there with murderers and thieves.

Rev. 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and fornicators, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

1 Cor. 6:18Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

So, if kissing is sex, and you kiss before marriage, you are damning yourself to Hell.

But, you may be wondering, how is kissing sex? Well, if you are a woman or under 18 years of age, you may want to skip the following section because I will be using graphic, explicit language for the sake of justifying why kissing is sex. Just take me on my word that it is sex. Otherwise, there's a scientific explanation if you're interested..

See, there are three components of sex: Oral, Genital, and Anal. You can take these three components and get a variety of permutations. The most well-known version is Genital-Genital, also known as coitus, and what most people think of when you use the word "sex". There is then Genital-Oral, which is known as "fellatio" and "cunnilingus". Then there is Genital-Anal, which is known as "sodomy" or "anal sex".

Now we start getting into real depraved actions. There is Anal-Oral, known as "analingus" where one person, well you can figure it out. Then there is the mysterious and rarely practiced Anal-Anal, which as far as I know doesn't have a common name, but undoubtedly morally bankrupt homosexuals indulge themselves in this strange fetish in bathroom stalls all across America.

Finally, we get to the last permutation: Oral-Oral, also known as "kissing". Suddenly, kissing doesn't look so innocent when it's in the same category as a man putting his tallywhacker in a woman's cooter, or a homosexual licking the anus of another man. Kissing is no different than these activities! Which makes people that kiss in public on the same level as those baboons which mate in front of tourists at the zoo.

Now, despite the fact that I believe strongly that an unmarried couple should wait until they are married to kiss, I am by no means a prude. It might surprise you but I can be quite liberal and permissive when it comes to sexuality. For example, I think, in certain circumstances, it's okay if an unmarried couple holds hands. I can just hear everyone calling me some "free love hippie" for saying that, but hear me out. As long as a couple is engaged to be married, and they're in the privacy of their own home, and they don't hold hands for more than a couple minutes, then I think it's okay.

Still, let's remember what is important: Kissing is sex. Kissing before marriage is fornication. Fornicators burn in Hell. That is all you need to know.

Actually, you are to stay the heck away from all females worldwide! Otherwise, you will end up in Hell so fast your head will spin! Any person who marries at all will burn in Hell for idolatry!

Re: Should You Wait Until You're Married to Kiss??? -
11-18-2014, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by VictoryOS

Do you have Scripture to back that up? If there is no marriage, where will the precious little Soldiers for Christ come from?

Don't take any notice, obviously some sort of misogynist. In The Bible we are encouraged to act appropriately and to respect every individual, male or female, slave or free, as they deserve to be respected. In the same way as we know the difference between clean and unclean meat we know that there is clean and unclean kissing.

I Thessalonians 526 Greet all the brethren with an holy kiss.KJV .. look up

This is not the same greeting associated with dockland locations at 3 a.m. or upon arrival at the bordello to deliver costumes and gin. No doubt those greetings are enthusiastic even if they're not genuine but are they holy?

Well, in a sense I guess a bordello (or seaport alleyway) is "set aside" for some special purpose but that is not really the point is it. Satan is the puppetmaster in those cases, whereas Rev. Osborne offers guidance and sound teaching in matters of propriety and good taste.

So no, they are not holy. Is it only the brethren we should greet? Corinth was a hotbed of salacious compulsions, a seaport offering a cosmopolitan selection of co-obsessees but very little in the way of good taste or propriety. Trollop central, sailors galore, exotic intoxicants. Paul knew that and knew about the styles of kissing associated with any such melting pot just as we would if we stood outside a nightclub after about 4 in the morning and because none of these things are holy God smote the joint with an earthquake.

Although the sistern are not mentioned explicitly in II Corinthians having been covered in Paul's first letter it's certain that everyone is included:

II Corinthians 1312 Greet one another with an holy kiss.13All the saints salute you.14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you All..KJV .. look up

Re: Should You Wait Until You're Married to Kiss??? -
11-19-2014, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel420

but isn't hand-holding basically the same as giving someone a "hand job"? and hand jobs are totally sinful, therefore you are promoting SIN on this forum, Pastor. you should be ashamed!

What's wrong with a hand job? My neighbour and I give each other hand jobs all the time. When I was setting up the nursery for my (not-to-be) son, I asked my neighbour for a hand in mounting the gun racks on the wall. Another day, he asked me for a hand in putting sunscreen on his back. Friends do hand jobs for each other all the time, well, at least my friends do.

Re: Should You Wait Until You're Married to Kiss??? -
11-26-2014, 06:32 PM

No I don't believe kissing is a sin.

Scripters to back it:

1 John 5:17 - All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin that does not lead to death.

1 Corinthians 13:1-10 If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing. Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful;

One should not go and kiss just anyone before marriage. If true love exists between the two and are to be married. Kissing is a solution to fornication, which is one way to gain a ticket to the flaming pit.

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in his image he created him.
Mark 12:31 ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’
Romans 2:11 For God shows no partiality.
1Peter 3:7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life.

After you deal with that, we can try to get you to cite RELEVANT Scripture, you know, quotes that actually have something to do with the subject matter at hand.

And, yeah, I said "try". My hopes are not high.

Thank you brother for correcting my spelling mistake.

And the subject was about is it wrong to kiss before marriage. I merely explained that I don't feel it's wrong to kiss before marriage providing scriptures that better explain my reasoning.
Not sure if you're an internet troll. Or just a person that is full of wrath.

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in his image he created him.
Mark 12:31 ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’
Romans 2:11 For God shows no partiality.
1Peter 3:7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life.

Re: Should You Wait Until You're Married to Kiss??? -
11-26-2014, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by IllegitimateDemon

No I don't believe kissing is a sin.

Scripters to back it:

1 John 5:17 - All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin that does not lead to death.

1 Corinthians 13:1-10 If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing. Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful;

I don't see anything about kissing in these verses, maybe you were thinking of Luke 7:45? Or Psalms 85:10? Or Proverbs 27:6? Or Song of Solomon 1:2? Because these are just a few of the verses that touch the subject of kissing.