This week, Steve is joined by none-other-than Darrin Daniel of Stumptown, A Film about Coffee, and – now –Alliance for Coffee Excellence fame. Recorded onsite at this year’s Cup of Excellence in Burundi, they use Darrin’s career story to talk through the pros and cons of working with large coffee corporations, share Duane Sorenson stories, and ponder the importance of communication.

They also talk about the tumultuous changes to ACE and the COE program which spurred quite a lot of intense online discussion – in which, we’ll be honest, Steve was a fairly vocal participant – and what changes have been made as a result of learned lessons as they look towards the future.