ADL releases Report Similar to SPLC

Edit to ask if anyone else felt threatened by this post; or is it OK because it's the deliverance of God's word via a third party?

[edit on 24-4-2010 by Maxmars]

Nah, I didn't. My position is that a deity is fully capable of looking out for his own rep, and so will settle accounts with that particular poster
as appropriate.

I highly doubt He's gunning for me just because the ADL don't like 'my kind', and the aforementioned poster wants to fling a hex on me.

I've yet to meet the human that can force a god to do much of anything to his personal opposition, just because he says so.

Maybe his god's mouthpiece should have a meeting with my god's mouthpiece, and work out a solution over the bargaining table?

Edit to add: After going into conference with my god, he's a bit miffed that his quotes were taken out of their context (a religious context) and
misused in an attempt making a political point. Said he's considering legal action, or something.

Hm. Quotes... taken out of context... misapplied to make a political point... maybe that poster DOES work for ADL!

Check this out from someone who joined yesterday 4/23/10, and who has
"contributed" to this thread.:
(Emphasis added)

Thus, porn is okay as long as it feeds the need of man and not just any man only the holy chosen people as it says in the holy scriptures

Deuteronomy 14:2, "For you are a holy people to YHWH your God, and God has chosen you to be his treasured people from all the nations that are on the
face of the earth."

It is Gods wish to entertain holy people and to serve the need of chosen people and who are we to go against it. Goyims are only creatures of
Jehovah made with features of human beings, in order to better serve and entertain the chosen people. Porn is okay as long as it serves the need for
God's people.

I know this is troll-bait, but what-the-heck????!!!

Edit to add: I KNOW this is a troll, ATSers please don't answer it. It will be the end of this thread. It's too obvious and I won't dive to
that scummy level. The ADL types will harvest much jenkum from this, don't let them!

Considering that ATS Members & even the anonymous posters have to abide by ATS T&C’s equally (posting otherwise risks getting their IP’s banned &
posts deleted as a result), I’d have to commend SO for taking the appropriate action. This brings to mind that I wish SO goes back to one of his
earlier “superhero” avatar graphics…The whole of ATS owners/staff are proving, once again, that they deserve the title of “Hero.” ATS
follows the laws, they uphold their policies & are not afraid of defending their position. Fortunately, Members & Anonymous Posters who abide by these
laws & rules are also protected. Not all laws are bad, ya’ know! Laws enacted in the true pursuit of Justice are designed to protect
people, not oppress them; remember this whenever any new “legislation” comes out of Congress! Does it pass this as a “litmus test?”

Hmmm. According to my survey, I'd say the results may be more clearly stated in this manner:
2 (ATS Owners & ATS Staff) + 2 (ATS Members & Anonymous Posters) = 5 (the "5th column" forces in defense of
the Rights of Free Speech).

Go get 'em, tiger!

I can only speak for myself, but I dare say that if the ATS First Defense falters in any way, just let us know...I'd guess that you've got people
from all over the world standing with you & behind you. After all, we've got the Law with us as defense against such slander & libel too.

MidnightDStroyer,
While I agree with what you are saying , I must also state that posts such as the one above do nothing in the way of helping SO defend our rights to
free speech .

This type of rhetoric is exactly what the ADL will capitalize on in their attempts to stifle the free speech of anyone who is opposed to the current
state of affairs in this battle .

Comments like this play right into their agenda . The link to Bill Clinton was to simply show that a pattern is emerging .

You have a former President saying that conditions are ripe for another 'event' and then you have the ADL 'validating' his assertions by
monitoring various sites and offering up posts to give credibility to the notion that 'extremists' were responsible for the 'next' false-flag .

Common sense dictates that you don't attempt to extinguish a fire by tossing gasoline onto it .

This type of rhetoric seems to be coming from some new members (less than 1.5 weeks, excuse me if I'm wrong.) It will play into the hands of
the ADL "reporters", so why couldn't they get several of their "investigators" to show up on forums and start talking trash like the above. It
wouldn't cost them too much from the donations pool.

All I can say is that I agree with the person who said whomever wrote the report was a lazy bastige. I have seen more violent and aggressive posts
than then ones chosen in the "general chit chat" forum.

Joking. Kind of.

But seriously, they could have done much better if they wanted to make us look like a bunch of foaming at the mouth loonies. I suppose we should be
grateful for their ineptitude.

I personally am not too concerned about it. Of course there are people who watch sites like this one. They kind of have to monitor any "fringe"
sites where politics and conspiracy is discussed. Imagine the embarrassment if someone posted their entire plans for some horrible act on the
internet, and then committed it, and they were utterly unaware and did nothing. All the criticism from the public about them NOT preventing nut cases
from popping off virtually assures us that they will monitor any site that has the potential of drawing nut cases about to pop off. Like it or not,
ATS is such a site.

Granted, MOST by far of the members here are not nut cases, but I am sure we have our share.

The bottom line should be, dont post things you wouldnt want associated with your "real life" persona. If you really feel like ranting and raging,
then by all means do so, but if you are creating an "extreme" personality for fun and games this should be your wake up call that calling for
violence is not really fun and shouldnt be considered a game.

The ADL, SPLC and all of these groups act the same way, if you disagree in anyway with their agenda then you are labeled a right wing hater or
terrorists. They try their best to shut you down anyway they can, don't let them intimidate you! You want to see an example of real hate speech, then
visit some of the left wing blogs. These groups never have a problem with posts on these sites.

Hello? Is that you God? It's me JPZ. I was hoping we could have a bit of discussion. As you know God, I was born and raised Catholic, I guess
that would make me a goyim in your eyes, but I have accepted this fate and have done my best to honor you and as you have told me to love the Chosen
Ones, I have, just as you have told me to love all.

My purpose for talking to you now is that I have always been horrified at the way your Chosen People have been treated throughout history. Why the
modern state of Israel exists today has always been a no brainer, as I remain certain that your Chosen have the absolute right to defend themselves
and their right to worship as they see fit.

Further, I have always felt such a strong affinity with your Chosen that I am, quite honestly, terribly flabbergasted at these recent turn of events.
Increasingly I have watched many of your Chosen become precisely that which was their greatest threat. I have watched many of your Chosen organize,
at first to defend their own, then expand to defend the principles of tolerance, and expand even further to defend the principles of justice and
fairness.

God, I have watched your Chosen organize to defend themselves, as they justly should, and then to offer up services of justice and fairness as noble
cause, but something has gone terribly wrong. Your Chosen, God, have seemingly gone from being oppressed to becoming increasingly a candidate for
oppression, suppression, and quite frankly God, it is causing me some depression.

Was this your plan all along? To create some scenario in which a long history of abuse hurled at your Chosen becomes the excuse to empower them to
now hurl the abuse themselves? Will we soon see goosestepping Chosen? Will the Chosen go from mimicking their oppressors in compiling lists to
acting upon this compilation? Have you such distaste for the rest of humanity, that no amount of good, no amount of moral fortitude, and no amount of
ethical behavior will melt your heart if we are not your Chosen?

Will you now empower your Chosen to begin planning their own final solution, where they may exterminate all but the Chosen? Please God, I implore
you, help me understand this, as I have relied heavily upon you for guidance through out my life, and now I read reports by your Chosen attacking not
oppressors, attacking not tyrants, but attacking individuals who have done nothing more than speak their mind freely.

I have, based upon the guidance I believed you were offering, always believed that I was free since the moment I took my first breath. Was this
wrong, and was I not being guided by you and instead something more sinister? Was I wrong to believe that open and honest communication was the best
way towards peace? Is it your plan that we all live timidly and powerless, except for your Chosen? Have I wronged you for believing that all people
are free and only subject to your will?

Are your Chosen the only spiritual beings here on this planet, and the rest of us merely putty to be molded however the spiritual please? Are you
Chosen great spirits that transcend biology and the rest of us merely biological constructs unworthy of your notice? If it is not you who has been
guiding me all these years, then for God's sakes who the hell has been? Was it my profound arrogance to believe you actually cared about us all?

I have long thought that the covenant that was broken between you and your Chosen was because David stole Jerusalem in order to create a nation state
which then became their priority instead of keeping a covenant with you. I have suspected for many years that the purpose in your plan for the
destruction of Masada and the great diaspora that followed was to allow your Chosen to let go of the need for a nation state and return the an
individual covenant with you, and that your Chosen served as a model for us all, that Temple was never some stationary fixed place, but inside the
hearts of humanity. Was I just simply naive and all this a product of wishful thinking?

Surely, as I have mentioned, it has always made sense to me, after the holocaust, why it was necessary for your Chosen to return to a nation state,
but was that just so they could facilitate Armageddon? Perhaps I am not worthy of your consideration, but would it be such a bad idea that your
Chosen, they being worthy of your consideration, to act more compassionately towards all people and instead of paying lip service to ideas such as
justice and fairness, actually abide by such ideals? Or, is justice and fairness merely in the eye of the beholder?

I am sick at heart God, and I beg you in your infinite wisdom to help us all. God help us all, each and every one of us. Thanks for listening, if
indeed you have, and even if you haven't, thanks for being there anyway, but if these words do get through to you, could you help us all help heal
your Chosen...help heal us all so they/we may learn to love again and live our lives with compassion and respect for all? I hope this is not too much
to ask, but even if it is, I am asking anyway...God help us all.

I cannot even begin to say how deeply pissed off I am, sad amid many other emotions running through these heated veins.

I look at it all this way, let them tattle tale all they want. Since when are we supposed to be forced to be the sheep/drones/puppets and comply to
and believe all they say/do?! Frak them! And how dare them deem the opinions we each have that make us individually unique as some hate crime(s)! To
me, they ARE the hate! And they are the criminals!

I cannot help but think of that movie V for Vendetta. All they use are fear tactics to control the masses of people who make each country A COUNTRY to
begin with! We can still preserve our once great country (ies),
with the use of wit and knowledge.

I feel We The People could write our own bill and present it! I do not believe violence is always the answer in most cases, unless it was to protect
oneself and those of their families. But to pick a part all the people say in the heat of their emotions (that had been provoked to begin with) and
twist and turn them around in to something sinister is just ludicrous and sickening.

I understand how people feel. And I also understand that when something makes a person react with anger, they should not be flagged as some kind of
warmonger, with all intent to wage some sadistic act that "they" want them to feel!

That is the key objective I feel "those dark forces" want US to feel! They want the people to be pissed off. They want US to react in accordance to
what "They" cause! That is a blatant fact! We all see it! And out of fear, they have their little tattle tales sicked out like dogs to eavesdrop on
the views and opinions expressed because of the actions they (The People) are attacked with. When one feels they are forced in a corner against a
wall, what else would anyone expect that person to do?! Come on! We ARE human.

Edit to add: And just who are "they" anyway? I've always wondered that. Do we really want to know?

I agree with the majority here who've said how people should really watch what they say and how they say it. Yes, our of anger we tend to go off the
handle some. But use caution in what we say. Otherwise, those words can be used/twisted in ways I am sure the poster did not intend when spoken.

Why does reading that report remind me that Germany got "hope and change" in 1933?

Aye! I found it odd that the first page of the report calls for the Hutaree roundup to be but the first of many dissident roundups. It then goes on to
detail just the sort of dissidents that the ADL thinks should be rounded up.

So much for the calls of "Never Again!" when the ADL itself calls for the roundups.

Hope this isn't off topic... but what an incredibly touching post, JPZ! If only I had such a way with words.

On topic, just who in the sheol (translation - hell) does the ADL think that they are? ADL, AIPAC, WINEP, JINSA, JIDL, they're all in deep with the
legions of think tanks and alphabet agencies whose interests lie somewhere between corporate profitability and theocratic dreaming. Does anyone know
the story of James Rosenberg? You can read about some of it here:

Hey ADL, since you're taking quotes from the 26th of March, and you've obviously taken what some of the members here have said out of context., it
appears you'll have some room in your report for a few replacements when you remove them.

A quick look around for that date reveals some juicy quotes. Here's a sampling complete with twitter account images as proof that it's not
hearsay.

Man what a pile of steaming garbage that report is! This is a lapdog of the government just parroting their point of view. Makes me sick to my stomach
to see people's right to free speech being infringed on like this. And I have news for those clowns, this isn't the views of "extremists", this is
the views held by at the least, a large minority of American people. I'm sorry but the gov and their lapdog's like the ADL need to realize that the
anger in these quotes is well founded. This government is hardly a republic of law. It is in fact very much a fascist or corporatist oligarchy. I can
only hope that this garbage propaganda is seen by as many Americans as possible and that they are as incensed by it as me. You want "extremism"?
Keep slinging garbage like this at regular folk who have had enough!

You'd of thought they would ask the question WHY so many people are venting their anger on these types of forums.

What- with psychiatrists labeling 'anger' as a mental illness? Anyone who finally has enough of the way crap goes, and KNOWS it is wrong, who
finally blows an O ring as 'weak'?

They are actually trying to herd the really, truly, actually and rightfully angry into the labels of disturbed, terrorists, and malcontents- and keep
the population as pliable and submissive as possible- all the while having them fearful of those who might actually get upset to make something happen
for the good of the world.

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