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So I had a chance to fly the pro UL today.It flew great until i tried to put it into a turtle...DENIED. Kinda reminds me how my sano SSL refuses to roll up.I havnt had a chance to really play with the bridle and the wind wasnt thegreatest but there def is a prob..IMHO. I dont understand how the original fox's fly fine right out of the the box but these new and improved "pro's"are turning out to be more of a puzzle than a performer.

Before you sell it, maybe you should wait a few days and see if Bell might come in and give you a few tips or suggestions. If it were me, I think I would try lowering the tow point.Just a reminder: Make sure your "default" bridle setting is marked. Can you readily roll up any of your other UL kites? If so, make sure you are using the same exaggerated (for me) inputs.Have you tried the two-pop method?

i was there during its maiden flights - we tried a few bridal tweaks, with no improvement. - the other foxes roll up easily (after what bridal adjustments, i dont know)From what i seen, it just does not like to get into the turtle - it has a large dead spot in its backward arc, whether trying to get it to turtle or yoyo (one or two pop)I didnt actually fly the kite - this is just what i witnessed during its frustrating first flights.

I had a UL that I loved, but it would not yoyo to my satisfaction until I added 30g of weight, which adversely affected everything else. It would 2 pop and multi lazy like a dream however, so I just adjusted my expectations.

I spent a good part of the day yesterday trying to remedy the problem.I tried everything. I tried adjusting the bridle every way possible, I tried adding extra weightTo the tail...I even tried a completely diff bridle all together.

The pro std also has trouble rolling up as well IMO.So this is just worse on the ul.

I can yoyo very easily on other ul's I own.Even my original 2.3 ul can wrap up just fine.If I could get this pro ul to fly like the originalI'd be happy. Doesn't make sense how a "pro"Is inferior to the Original.

There WILL come a time you will discover you only need about six kites to cover every conceivable wind condition including the just plain to fly ones like the Hq Breeze. I hope my wife never sees this post.

This is like fight club, how dare you talk about it, your going to get us all in trouble:DYou can at least get axles out of a breeze. It is more my "what can my friends fly in light wind that I won't care if it gets broke kite"Do you have any weight on the dsul?

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