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ianv on "Can we nail down this breathalyser in France issue please?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/can-we-nail-down-this-breathalyser-in-france-issue-please#post-5049602
Fri, 07 Jun 2013 17:15:53 +0000ianv5049602@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>No one I know in France has one, even though they are anal about carrying documents/Hi Viz jackets etc. I'm certainly not going to bother.
</p>andytherocketeer on "Can we nail down this breathalyser in France issue please?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/can-we-nail-down-this-breathalyser-in-france-issue-please#post-5049493
Fri, 07 Jun 2013 16:35:34 +0000andytherocketeer5049493@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>not me - went there last year (Flow MTB)</p>
<p>And yep heard that Darmstadt has supposedly been forced to become one of the towns needing a sticker, rather than doing their own thing for no cost. (edit: I'd heard "not before Jan 2014", but that was not definite)</p>
<p>Still it's only a one-off few euros for a sticker here, unlike the (iirc) €14 for non-residents, which is one helluva fee to pay for 1 trip in to Freiburg or wherever, in addition to probably expensive parking.
</p>MSP on "Can we nail down this breathalyser in France issue please?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/can-we-nail-down-this-breathalyser-in-france-issue-please#post-5049478
Fri, 07 Jun 2013 16:29:59 +0000MSP5049478@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>I believe they are going to start getting much stricter on the E4 stickers soon, including in Darmstadt. I don't know how that will affect foreign registered cars.</p>
<p>ps Andy, is it you who is joining us on the Morzine trip in July?
</p>andytherocketeer on "Can we nail down this breathalyser in France issue please?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/can-we-nail-down-this-breathalyser-in-france-issue-please#post-5049437
Fri, 07 Jun 2013 16:15:06 +0000andytherocketeer5049437@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>(and not really needed) <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_wink.gif" title=";)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p>
<p>€12 fine (for when they were going to have fines, but never got around to enforcing) is bog all compared to that round trip either.</p>
<p>€0 is 0% of the total cost <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p>
<p>In my case it would have been €7 for a return trip between Geneva airport and Morzine, and one return trip between Calais and the Belgian border, which is then quite a significant % especially when there is 0% chance of actually getting fined <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_wink.gif" title=";)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p>ransos on "Can we nail down this breathalyser in France issue please?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/can-we-nail-down-this-breathalyser-in-france-issue-please#post-5049406
Fri, 07 Jun 2013 16:02:51 +0000ransos5049406@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p><blockquote>Everyone said those breathalyser jobbies will be €1. No they're not - they're more like €3-4 each and come in packs of 2. Even when the fine was not going to be €0 it would be about the cost of 3 breathalysers. And since they put a use by date on them to make you need to buy 2 new ones every 2 years... I'll take the risk tyvm.</blockquote></p>
<p>A return trip to the south of France is going to cost what? Say £150 in fuel and the same again in tolls. Add another £100 for the ferry and that's £400.</p>
<p>So a breathalyser kit is less than 1% of your travel costs.
</p>Pimpmaster Jazz on "Can we nail down this breathalyser in France issue please?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/can-we-nail-down-this-breathalyser-in-france-issue-please#post-5049386
Fri, 07 Jun 2013 15:56:09 +0000Pimpmaster Jazz5049386@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>We carried one on our road trip purely to avoid any unnecessary hassle with the law.
</p>deadlydarcy on "Can we nail down this breathalyser in France issue please?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/can-we-nail-down-this-breathalyser-in-france-issue-please#post-5049373
Fri, 07 Jun 2013 15:51:45 +0000deadlydarcy5049373@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p><blockquote>Visiting the Black Forest without spending a day in solar city E4 Freiburg would be a pity.</blockquote></p>
<p>We visited Freiburg on a previous trip. It is indeed a lovely place.
</p>Edukator on "Can we nail down this breathalyser in France issue please?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/can-we-nail-down-this-breathalyser-in-france-issue-please#post-5048255
Fri, 07 Jun 2013 10:24:13 +0000Edukator5048255@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>Visiting the Black Forest without spending a day in solar city E4 Freiburg would be a pity.
</p>epicsteve on "Can we nail down this breathalyser in France issue please?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/can-we-nail-down-this-breathalyser-in-france-issue-please#post-5047934
Fri, 07 Jun 2013 08:56:50 +0000epicsteve5047934@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>We were driving through France last year so decided to buy a set of the breathalysers just in case. </p>
<p>There were also warnings at the time that you could be fined if your satnav had the locations of french speed cameras in it, so I also updated my satnav so that those were replaced with "safety zones" or some such which were ok. Not that we were likely to be doing much speeding as we were in a motorhome!
</p>andytherocketeer on "Can we nail down this breathalyser in France issue please?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/can-we-nail-down-this-breathalyser-in-france-issue-please#post-5047501
Thu, 06 Jun 2013 22:49:38 +0000andytherocketeer5047501@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>Everyone said those breathalyser jobbies will be €1. No they're not - they're more like €3-4 each and come in packs of 2. Even when the fine was not going to be €0 it would be about the cost of 3 breathalysers. And since they put a use by date on them to make you need to buy 2 new ones every 2 years... I'll take the risk tyvm.</p>
<p>Don't need the German sticker "for most German towns"... DO need one for a handful of (albeit typically large) towns, most of which most visitors won't visit. And of those they might on a stopover to Austria, the Ibis/Etap/F1 hotel will most likely be outside the zone.</p>
<p>Spare bulb are worth it though. And a screwdriver to change them. And an Android/iOS tablet with 3G roaming to google the intawebz to find out how the heck you dismantle all the bits of plastic to access the bulb.
</p>geoffj on "Can we nail down this breathalyser in France issue please?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/can-we-nail-down-this-breathalyser-in-france-issue-please#post-5047388
Thu, 06 Jun 2013 22:14:51 +0000geoffj5047388@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>BigG where you off to? We're going here - <a href="http://www.campingporsperon.com/brittanycamping.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.campingporsperon.com/brittanycamping.html</a>
</p>aracer on "Can we nail down this breathalyser in France issue please?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/can-we-nail-down-this-breathalyser-in-france-issue-please#post-5047327
Thu, 06 Jun 2013 22:00:45 +0000aracer5047327@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p><blockquote>spare bulbs as well.</blockquote></p>
<p>Don't forget the spare headlight bulbs, which are impossible to change at the roadside on most modern French* cars.</p>
<p>* also a problem on other cars, but it's ironic that French cars seem to be the worst culprits.
</p>sam_underhill on "Can we nail down this breathalyser in France issue please?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/can-we-nail-down-this-breathalyser-in-france-issue-please#post-5047290
Thu, 06 Jun 2013 21:50:03 +0000sam_underhill5047290@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>£5 from Halfords. Added to the under seat storage compartment for "rubbish I need to drive in France". No further worrying.
</p>bigG on "Can we nail down this breathalyser in France issue please?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/can-we-nail-down-this-breathalyser-in-france-issue-please#post-5047238
Thu, 06 Jun 2013 21:36:19 +0000bigG5047238@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p><blockquote>geoffj - Member<br />
£4 for a pair on amazon. I've just bought a pair to chuck in the truck. 3 weeks tomorrow and its Brittany here we come<br />
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<p>Us too. Fingers crossed we keep the weather we have now
</p>uselesshippy on "Can we nail down this breathalyser in France issue please?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/can-we-nail-down-this-breathalyser-in-france-issue-please#post-5047212
Thu, 06 Jun 2013 21:27:16 +0000uselesshippy5047212@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>Yep, hiviz, one each, and spare bulbs as well.
</p>geoffj on "Can we nail down this breathalyser in France issue please?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/can-we-nail-down-this-breathalyser-in-france-issue-please#post-5047205
Thu, 06 Jun 2013 21:25:55 +0000geoffj5047205@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>Sounds good - is this a new motor to accommodate all dd junior's gear?<br />
2 weeks in a caravan by the sea for us - taking the body board and the road bike. Might even catch a stage of Le Tour!
</p>Pigface on "Can we nail down this breathalyser in France issue please?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/can-we-nail-down-this-breathalyser-in-france-issue-please#post-5047182
Thu, 06 Jun 2013 21:18:16 +0000Pigface5047182@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>Do you have to carry a hi viz as well?
</p>Edukator on "Can we nail down this breathalyser in France issue please?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/can-we-nail-down-this-breathalyser-in-france-issue-please#post-5047171
Thu, 06 Jun 2013 21:15:44 +0000Edukator5047171@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>I have the free one sent by my insurance company in the glove box. They're 1e40 at the Leader Price check out.</p>
<p>Have you got your <a href="http://www.dekra-norisko.fr/pdf/DEKRA_Bon_de_commande_Vignette_eco_All.pdf">E4 sticker for Germany?</a> You'll find you can't get into most towns without one.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.plakette24.de/information/umweltplakette.php">Umweltplakette E4</a>
</p>deadlydarcy on "Can we nail down this breathalyser in France issue please?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/can-we-nail-down-this-breathalyser-in-france-issue-please#post-5047165
Thu, 06 Jun 2013 21:12:41 +0000deadlydarcy5047165@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p> <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_lol.gif" title=":lol:" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p>
<p>No mate. This holiday is in part payment for the wood laying in September. Off to a farm in the Black Forest. Can't bloody wait. New motor for the road trip as well. Woo!!
</p>geoffj on "Can we nail down this breathalyser in France issue please?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/can-we-nail-down-this-breathalyser-in-france-issue-please#post-5047159
Thu, 06 Jun 2013 21:09:38 +0000geoffj5047159@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>Going to lay some more wood?
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