Both teams seem to have made out on the trade, albeit it is still very early. The only two undefeated teams left in the NFC were trade partners for starting QB's a week before the season started!

That's pretty wild!

Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:59 am

fiestavike

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Re: 2016 NFL Season General NFL Thread

Mothman wrote:

fiestavike wrote:

jackal wrote:

The Bears offense really is struggling without Forte ...

I know they lost some key defenders .. I am wondering if the Bears ownership would have the patience to let Fox build ....

Hopefully not. Fox and Zimmer are clearly the best coaches in the NFC North. I'd love to see the Bears panick and hire a dud like Caldwell or McCarthy.

After a Super Bowl win, 5 division titles, 8 playoff appearances in 10 years, and a 106-56-1 record I'm sure Green Bay deeply regrets hiring a "dud' like McCarthy.

I think they've had the talent to do considerably better than that, especially against weak opposition. For example, they got 60+ games against what were mostly lousy Lions, Bears, and Vikings teams in that stretch.

Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:32 am

Mothman

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Re: 2016 NFL Season General NFL Thread

fiestavike wrote:

I think they've had the talent to do considerably better than that, especially against weak opposition. For example, they got 60+ games against what were mostly lousy Lions, Bears, and Vikings teams in that stretch.

He's 46-17 against those 3 teams so I'd say he'd done pretty well:

14-7 against the Bears15-6-1 against the Vikings17-4 against the Lions

Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:11 pm

IrishViking

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Re: 2016 NFL Season General NFL Thread

Mothman wrote:

fiestavike wrote:

I think they've had the talent to do considerably better than that, especially against weak opposition. For example, they got 60+ games against what were mostly lousy Lions, Bears, and Vikings teams in that stretch.

He's 46-17 against those 3 teams so I'd say he'd done pretty well:

14-7 against the Bears15-6-1 against the Vikings17-4 against the Lions

Wasnt the Tie against his fill in when he was broken?

Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:22 pm

Mothman

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Re: 2016 NFL Season General NFL Thread

IrishViking wrote:

Mothman wrote:

fiestavike wrote:

I think they've had the talent to do considerably better than that, especially against weak opposition. For example, they got 60+ games against what were mostly lousy Lions, Bears, and Vikings teams in that stretch.

He's 46-17 against those 3 teams so I'd say he'd done pretty well:

14-7 against the Bears15-6-1 against the Vikings17-4 against the Lions

Its very unfortunate when these legendary/generational players go down and miss out on a season to add to their legacy. Also, i go to so few games that i still get gitty seeing these great players out on the field.

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Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:14 am

S197

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Re: 2016 NFL Season General NFL Thread

I can't say I'm surprised SD won yesterday as they're better than their record shows but when Denver recovered that onside it was like, oh wow it's going to happen again!

Also, have I mentioned how much I hate Nike and the stupid color rush? I know I have but seriously WTF with the all orange and blue. I thought one team was supposed to be white for the color blind folk?

Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:02 pm

Mothman

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Re: 2016 NFL Season General NFL Thread

S197 wrote:

I can't say I'm surprised SD won yesterday as they're better than their record shows but when Denver recovered that onside it was like, oh wow it's going to happen again!

Also, have I mentioned how much I hate Nike and the stupid color rush? I know I have but seriously WTF with the all orange and blue. I thought one team was supposed to be white for the color blind folk?

I thought so too but I don't think orange and blue are colors that are typically difficult for the color blind to distinguish from one another. I may be wrong about that...

There may also be enough contrast between the colors worn in that game that the league felt they could go with full color for both teams instead of just one.

I hate the whole "color rush" promotion. I'm not looking forward to watching the Vikes play in purple pajamas but at least Dallas is supposed to be wearing white that night so our senses won't be assaulted by quite as much color.

Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:24 pm

S197

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Re: 2016 NFL Season General NFL Thread

Mothman wrote:

S197 wrote:

I can't say I'm surprised SD won yesterday as they're better than their record shows but when Denver recovered that onside it was like, oh wow it's going to happen again!

Also, have I mentioned how much I hate Nike and the stupid color rush? I know I have but seriously WTF with the all orange and blue. I thought one team was supposed to be white for the color blind folk?

I thought so too but I don't think orange and blue are colors that are typically difficult for the color blind to distinguish from one another. I may be wrong about that...

There may also be enough contrast between the colors worn in that game that the league felt they could go with full color for both teams instead of just one.

I hate the whole "color rush" promotion. I'm not looking forward to watching the Vikes play in purple pajamas but at least Dallas is supposed to be wearing white that night so our senses won't be assaulted by quite as much color.

I think it was red and green that caused issues last time. I don't know much about color blindness so perhaps orange/blue is fine but even my eyes felt assaulted. Luckily, the Vikings will be all purple with gold numbers rather than all gold with purple numbers. That's a win, I guess?

I'm not going to lie, watching the Packers with Ponder at QB feels pretty satisfying.

agreed .. Honestly I think Rodgers is a very good QB and cool guy overall in real life, but I have to wish him awful luck as a packer...

I've even seen him compared to Manziel in his same number of starts compared to Rodgers' last X starts and they're nearly identical. And GB has one of THE BEST o-lines in the league. It's a mystery...albiet a satisfying one.

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Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:04 am

PurpleMustReign

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Re: 2016 NFL Season General NFL Thread

dead_poet wrote:

jackal wrote:

Quote:

I'm not going to lie, watching the Packers with Ponder at QB feels pretty satisfying.

agreed .. Honestly I think Rodgers is a very good QB and cool guy overall in real life, but I have to wish him awful luck as a packer...

I've even seen him compared to Manziel in his same number of starts compared to Rodgers' last X starts and they're nearly identical. And GB has one of THE BEST o-lines in the league. It's a mystery...albiet a satisfying one.

I wonder if he is hurt, or simply losing interest in the game. It is so odd seeing him struggle for so long. Maybe he and McCarthy are not getting along behind closed doors?

I'm not going to lie, watching the Packers with Ponder at QB feels pretty satisfying.

agreed .. Honestly I think Rodgers is a very good QB and cool guy overall in real life, but I have to wish him awful luck as a packer...

I've even seen him compared to Manziel in his same number of starts compared to Rodgers' last X starts and they're nearly identical. And GB has one of THE BEST o-lines in the league. It's a mystery...albiet a satisfying one.

I think his personal life is a mess. Isn't he supposed to be estranged from his whole family? I thought he looked exhausted all last year.