Kirk Cameron is hilarious

Look at him: it’s adorable the way he tries in vain to formulate a thought that wasn’t spoon fed to him by his guru, the mindless Ray Comfort. Every time I see him I can’t help but relive all the terrible years I had to spend looking at his goofy mug on TV. We’re fortunate his limited acting skills never allowed him to evolve beyond B-Budget Christian films (including the “Left Behind” series), otherwise this buffoon would be all over the place. I actually have to go and purposefully find him on the Internet, if for no other reason than to please all of you.

Pay careful attention to what he’s saying. “I had faith in atheism”. I think you just mean that you were a dumb kind who didn’t know shit. I know, we’re all in fucking shock.

Kirk Cameron’s question: Is there possible a reason why an all loving God would still allow evil to happen”?

The answer: No, actually. That’s the whole point of the contradiction. An all loving, all powerful God who allows evil is either malevolent or impotent, otherwise “Whence then is evil?”. In your “intellectual” quest did you happen to read of a little philosopher called Epicurus? He talked about that shit 300 years before your Messiah was even born, curly.

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Comments (19)

Jameswptv

“I lost my faith in atheism” You cant have faith in atheism. Faith is believing something that cant be proven to exist.. Atheism is not believing in something that cant be proven to exist..The 2 terms CAN NOT coexist in the same sentence.

mightyfooda

AHAAHAA that was awesome! You know what that video told me about you Kirk? That you’re a fake that just goes along with what your friends tell you. Ya, it’s sooo cool to be an atheist that you have to go online to have converation with people who share your world view. Most of us were religous and learned better. Asshat.

Goldnearms

J.N. Hudson

What I would like to ask this bloody idiot is how does one go about having “faith” in their own answer to a Yes/No question?

I love how he just makes the assertion that most atheist have neverread the bible, especially given the fact that an extrodinary amount of atheist deconversion stories begin with “I wanted to rededicate myself to god/strengthen my faith/become a better evangelist or minister so I decide to read thed the bible cover to cover.” The bible itself is one of the best counter-apologist tools that non-theists have, because anyone who has read and is familiar with the christian bible can easily see the hoops that apologists have to jump through to rationalize, excuse, justify, or ignore many of the outlandish and sometimes frankly immoral claims or commandments found within it.

As for the “atheist bible” he is shilling, I would be greatly suprised if the claimed “10 Questions Atheists Can’t Answer” haven’t already been answer ad nauseum by many atheists, only to have that answer ignored or dismissed by Comfort & Co. Moreover, the inability of an atheist to answer any of those questions does absolutely fuck all to prove the claims of christians. A lack of knowledge on a subject isn’t proof of anything, especially when the people posing those question have a well documented history of putting forth questions based of a flawed and often times completely false or fabricated premise and asserting “Atheist’s believe…” claims that have nothing to do with atheism.

Aridawn

BlueIndependent

Don’t expect KC to get a clue any time soon. He’s found his meal ticket in the incredulous, and he can knock out a hundred films with a million-or-so budget and make a decent amount of cash from it. As for the 10 questions atheists “can’t answer”, I’ll do it right now:

1. What was in the beginning?
We don’t know yet, but we’re trying to figure it out. Now make yourself useful and pick up a science book, or shut the hell up.

2. How will life on earth end?
By a bunch of stark, raving mad godbots getting in pissing matches over their religion, and nuking everyone out of existence and destroying our habitat. Or, a big ass asteroid.

3. What happens after death?
Decomposition. Next!

4. What is the purpose of existence?
Do good to others for the sake of doing so, and to help along humanity’s quest to better itself.

5. Why there is order in all of creation?
Please provide the schematic for this order, and evidence of the proposed purpose implied in your question.

6. Why there is morality in every civilization?
Because people don’t like pain or being killed.

7. Why does every civilization believe in a Creator?
Because it’s easy to conjure up ghosts than to do real scientific work and discovery. It’s one of many innate human traits that has survived without evolving much at all.

8. Why does every sane person have a conscience, even when it is not dictated by society?
See the answer for #6.

9. How did nothing create everything?
See answer for #1.

10. Which came first–the chicken or the egg?
Neither. Read a biology book, most preferably one that has never been touched by the influence of any sectarian religious tests.

KC was never an atheist. It’s an easy trope to use that any believer will take at face value, without question, because it strokes the emotions they’ve tied to their religion. I guarantee KC is implying that anything bad someone does is “atheistic”, and anything good “Christian”. That’s how they look at it. They’ll even apply this to periods of their life where they got caught up in real life instead of attending church or praying daily. Then they feel license to justify that “lapse” in belief by claiming they dabbled in atheism long enough to see how “valueless” it was.

Goldenarms

Mightyfooda

Paul Forbus

Excellent job blue except for #10: clearly the egg came first as avians / chickens evolved after reptiles / dinosaurs and both laid eggs. Although pointing this out to a creationist may not get you anywhere.

TheDean

No to be negative, but i’ve been studying the Problem of Evil recently in one of my Philosophy modules, and there are possible reasons why an omni-benevolent God would allow evil to exist. Because he wants some higher good, for example, or because we don’t see all the picture because God knows things we don’t, or for Free Will, etc. There are many reasons, i’m not sure how convinced i am by any of them, but i just thought i’d mention it.

AJ Buwalda

Motherfucker, he had me pissed when he said “I thought I was rejecting god”; who the fuck says that?! And than gems like “10 Question atheists can’t difnitively answer”. What, is I don’t know not good enough any more?

mightyfooda

@THEDEAN
I understand where you are coming from, but I don’t practice that form of philosophy, I prefer Bertrand Russell’s.
If a god is truly omnipotent then he would be omniscient. If that’s the case, then god would know everything that anyone would ever do. That would mean, since it’s foretold, it’s not even truly free will. It’s also bullshit. If you love your children you don’t put a temptation before them that will cause them untold suffering.
It’s all a moot point anyway, because just because a god would have a reason for doing something is in no way an argument that he exists, which I don’t think you were saying anyway. It’s an interesting point of view, I don’t agree with it, but it’s good to get a look at every angle if we are going to see things clearly so thanks for throwing that out there.

MightyFooda

BlueIndependent

@GoldenArms: Yes, yes they do ask that question. I googled the list before writing that post. I’m sure they have some snide, “skeptically” reason for including that one all the way at the end, but it can’t be a good one. It’s also a huge non-sequitur, and is likely intended only as a means of punctuating #9 further.

@Paul Forbus: I realize that, and my point in saying “neither” was to highlight the reality that asking such a question means explaining a lot of things the questioner would also need to know about before arriving at an answer (cue Krauss and the magnet question…)

@TheDean: I am aware of that philosophy, but I just don’t think it works. Even if the point of evil is to extract a greater good, he still has to act unethically toward some of his “creation” in order to get it. If he is truly the creator of everything, he could have cut to the chase rather than putting all of us through the meat grinder for his own benefit. That we don’t see the “big picture” is not or fault, and clearly there’s nothing we can do about it. The free will angle is also little more than a thought experiment on the god”s part.

Mightyfooda

Brandon, Kirk Cameron doesn’t do debates. He’s a puppet. A moron. Just listen to he explanation as to why he was an atheist. I have never met an atheist that was one for the reasons that he listed. And like he could actually get him on his show. Here’s an idea: come up with a challenge that’s actually within the realm of reality. You can do better than that.