LeBron is the most gifted player of all time. He will never hold a candle to MJ as an overall player.

Over the last five years, LeBron has been every bit as good as Michael Jordan was in his prime. Only time will tell whether he can maintain this level for as long as MJ did into his mid 30s, but to say he can't hold a candle to him is patently false considering his current level of dominance.

Kobe doesn't even enter into that kind of discussion. MJ and LeBron were/are able to do things on the court that he never could.

Which are? Don't say assist because MJ only averaged 1 more assist per game than Kobe.

No player in the triangle offense (under Jackson at least) has ever averaged more than 7 assists per game. So people who use the assists thing to prove how LeBron is better mostly have no idea what he's talking about.

Which are? Don't say assist because MJ only averaged 1 more assist per game than Kobe.

No player in the triangle offense (under Jackson at least) has ever averaged more than 7 assists per game. So people who use the assists thing to prove how LeBron is better mostly have no idea what he's talking about.

Are you arguing that LeBron isn't a better and more willing passer than Kobe?

Are you arguing that LeBron isn't a better and more willing passer than Kobe?

Of course he is. He's is a system designed to have him pass. The triangle offense was NEVER going to allow Kobe to pass. It had nothing to do with Kobe being "willing". It just wasn't going to happen. Neither Kobe or Jordan really got to showcase their passing abilities.

Of course he is. He's is a system designed to have him pass. The triangle offense was NEVER going to allow Kobe to pass. It had nothing to do with Kobe being "willing". It just wasn't going to happen. Neither Kobe or Jordan really got to showcase their passing abilities.

So the offense dictated Kobe's shoot first mentality? Wow.

LeBron was being compared to Magic in high school for his ability to see the floor and pass the ball. He was criticized early in his career for deferring too much; everyone wanted him to score more. I'm quite certain there's never been a day in Kobe's life where someone had to prod him to shoot the ball more.

Played some 2K13 today. 2 on 2 with some friends... We raped the other team with Irving and Waiters. Can't wait for these two to develop for real. Oh and on another note, how about the Cavs bench coming up huge to come back from 20 and win? Irving is a stud and Waiters is just a year or two of development behind(not quite as good, but could still be a future All-Star player) the new additions looked good this game at least.