".com. "viewpoint" is next. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ]>>john: todayjohnmccainhelda town hall meeting with he was heckled insulted and verbally abuseed so rudely by people who used to support him at one point he had to check a mirror just to make sure he wasn't chuck hagel. in a marriage equality ad, it's also the only commercial on tv that does not feature the progressive lady. why won't president obama sign the executive order for lgbt. today is the 86th bird of sydney portier, and the 50th birthday of charles barkley and had he live, it would be the birthday of kirk cobain as well. congress can, in fact, do stuff. this is "viewpoint"." [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> john: good evening i'm john fugelsang. thank you so much for joining us. with the budget sequester that would tut a trillion dollars from the budget, speaker of the house john boehner warned of dire consequences if it's allowing to through. a wall street journal opinion piece, you'll be shocked to hear blamed the entire mess on president obama. boehner named just a couple of things that he pushed through the house must be avoided. it thr

for cloture and move on to his nomination. >> that's right.senatorsjohnmccainandlindsey graham will vote to end debate on the confirmation of chuck hagel, eventually, but today, they just didn't feel like it. they towed the party line and voted to block hagel's nomination. the procedural vote failed 40-58 with one senator voting present and one senator not voting. 54 democrats voted in favor as did four republicans. no cabinet member nominated for a national security post has ever been filibustered. only two cabinet secretary nominees in history have been filibustered. both eventually cleared their cloture votes 85-8. and both were eventually easily confirmed. today, senate majority leader harry reid knew he did not have the votes to clear the republican procedural hurdle, but scheduled a vote anyway to demonstrate this. >> republicans have made an unfortunate choice to ratchet up the level of destruction here in washington. there's nothing going to change in the next ten days about the qualifications of chuck hagel. i guess to be able to run for the senate as a republican in most places

'll vote the other way.>>johnmccainbythe way broke his own rule of not using the filibuster. he said in the past he has pbro that rule. he is worried about his re-election in 2014. they said they are going to vote for closure. what do they think they are going to find in ten days? do they want to use it for ten more days of argument about benghazi something over which chuck haegle had nothing to do with. >> it sounds like for mccain and gram they want to drag it out. >> one of the most important things for people to understand about the way the senate works and the way that the filibuster works, one way to look at the senate, is a finite amount of legislating hours. every hour you can burn, that is a win. it is a finite budget. when you can spend that time, and it eats up a lot of time, you are shrinking the amount of time. so, one of the huge effects of the constant filibustering is more chewing up the clock making it impossible to use every hour of that time. this is the perfect example. what they have gained themselves are hours that no one is getting back in the 113th congress be

and business deals. butsenatorjohnmccainmayhave gotten it right when he explained the vote to fox news. >> there's a lot of ill will toward senator hagel because when he was a republican, he attacked president bush mercilessly at one point said he was the west president since herbert hoover. said that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war which is nonsense. and was very anti- his own party and people. people don't forget that. >> john: because for some in the g.o.p., there's nothing more wrong than being right. republicans will continue to punish hagel for the crime of being right. connoisseurs of paranoia likely won't forget another new outburst from the nra's wayne won't pea air. today, he accused president obama of launching "the most aggressive campaign in history to destroy second amendment rights." including -- >> bans on millions of commonly-owned rifles, shotguns and handguns. bans on tens of millions of standard magazines. bans on private transfers. even between family members. >> john: that came after lapierrre published an opinion piece on "the daily caller,"

. evensenatorjohnmccainnowbacking away from his no filibuster stance of weeks past. the majority leader harry reid took to the floor of the last hour to make this impassioned plea. >> in less than two hours, our country will be without a secretary of defense. there is never in the history of the country been a filibuster of a defense secretary nominee. never. but it's shocking that my republican colleagues would leave the nation without a fully empowered secretary of defense. >> debate on chuck hagel is not over. i am going to fight the idea of jamming somebody through. i'm going to hit you and keep hitting you. >> every republican there voted against moving the hagel nomination out of committee. there has to be a reason for that. why is it we're having to rush in to the confirmation. >> so just two days after the president's call to action to congress on gun control, nra ceo wayne lapierre is expected to give his decision on the state of the union tonight. hold on to your hats, it's going to be a doozy. he writes hurricanes, tornadoes, riots, terrorists, gangs, lone criminals, t

no evidence of. youhavejohnmccaincomingto chuck hagel's defense. >> goodforjohnmccain. >>good for john mccain. you have stepped over the line. >> there's been a pattern with the hagel debate of people going beyond legitimate public debate. we saw it on the charges of anti-semitism. now illegal money or whatever. there's a legitimate debate to have about chuck hagel or any other nominee. this is way past that. but there's an irony here. hagel, in part, got this nomination in order to bridge the partisan divide. it was supposed to be someone who would appeal to republicans. instead he gets reported out with a straight party-line vote. no republicans supporting him. this cannot be what anyone in washington intended. >> i know. john heilemann, i hate to keep bringing him up because i hate bringing up somebody simply for bad behavior, but i'm absolutely flummoxed by ted cruz's short-term and long-term political strategy. you know, mark halperin told me before he got sworn in, he was a very smart guy, a bright guy, a harvard lawyer. i just don't -- this is a guy that could have such

thatevenjohnmccainwholamb basted hagel a week ago came to the senator's defense. >> senator hagel is an honorable man. he has served his country and no one on this committee at any time should impugn his character or his integrity. >> that's what cruz was doing. and john boehner couldn't stick to the script today for the softer, gentler, kinder gop. he told reporters at a breakfast briefing that obama doesn't have -- this is the new phrase. he doesn't have the guts to cut spending. today more republican intransigents are holding up again by demanding the speaker -- actually harry reid from nevada come up with 60 votes to move forward the vote. and senator rand paul put a hold on president obama's pick. joining me now is salon's joan walsh and washington post's dana milbank. they can't beat these people so they're doing this obstructing. they're trying to smear this guy. they know he's going to be secretary of defense. there is absolutely no purpose in what cruz is doing except trying to move he's more obnoxious than neocons are. they're just messing around with the government of t

republicans stephanie. stephanie: well played, sir. goahead.johnmccain. >>i think that that is a sufficient period of time to get answers to outstanding questions and i think that senator hagel after that period of time deserves a vote and a up or down vote on his nomination. stephanie: he was calling the white house's answers on benghazi satisfactory now. he said he's ready to find a way to end the filibuster holding up the nomination, but now is trying to get answers to questions posed by senator ted across. you pointed out that douche regarding hagels sources of income which he's going to throw might be north korea. >> have you ever been an agent of iron, north korea or mars. stephanie: this is how ridiculous they've gotten, they want to investigate an employee in hagel's office that reportedly sexually harassed another employee that hagel had nothing to do with. >> like ben gas yea which he had nothing to do with. 14 years ago this week, bill clinton was acquitted by the u.s. senate on his impeachment trial. only one of they say congressman ever made it to the

to everybody? especially when we talk about chuck hagel becausebasicallyjohnmccaingavejohnkerrya piggy back ride to his hearing. he was the biggest obstacle in the hagel hearing. and john kerry voted against the iraq surge too just like hagel did. what's the difference? >> it's not hagel's a republican or democrat, it shouldn't matter, he's the president's choice. this is not supposed to be a witch hunt, which is what republicans currently are making the nomination about. the problem is all of these nominations they're trying to basically make headlines over. and that's just fundamentally wrong. and i would advise republicans to remember, eventually they're going to get the white house back and they're not going to want to have this on the other side. they should treat all the nominees with the proper respect. they can question it and vote against them, but don't do this filibuster thing. >> is getting 60 votes in the senate going to be the standard moving forward? >> i don't think it will. you are seeing a movement to get away from that. they're not going to fundamentally filibuster,

-scaleblizzard.johnmccainprobablywould have preferred to have been on the golf course. he was at a town hall meeting yesterday. he was for immigration when president bush was in the white house. when he was against immigration reform under president obama. the first term. now, he's back and for immigration reform. his constituents weren't too happy. one of them challenging him about why they don't build a fence. >> build a dang fence. where's the fence? >> in case you missed it, i showed you -- >> that's not a fence. >> that's not a fence. it is a banana. we're putting up a banana. about $600 million worth of appropriations that we have. >> bill: mccain has gotten so grumpy. when he ran for president in 2000, at those town hall meetings, i covered him in new hampshire. i traveled on that bus with him. he was so good at those town hall meetings. he was on top of it. people challenged him and he always had a good answer. little sense of humor. >> it's not a fence. it's a banana. >> that's one way to handle it, i guess. >> bill: stick it in your ear. cindy here to start off the hour. little bit

, visit lyrica.com. >>> on a radar,senatorjohnmccainsayshe will not block an up or down vote on chuck hagel. and governor chris christie gives a little sweet talk monday night. >>> first, senator bob menendez forcefully denied allegations he had any contact with prostitutes during trips to the dominican republic with a wealthy donor. >> the smears -- the smears that right wing blogs have been pushing since the election and that is totally unsubstantiated. it's amazing to me that anonymous, nameless, faceless individuals on a website can drive that type of story into the mainstream. the bottom line is all of those smears are absolutely false and, you know, that's the bottom line. >> republican senator john mccain, a sharp critic of chuck hagel's nomination as defense secretary, said he will not support a filibuster of his former colleague saying he doesn't believe the procedural move is appropriate. mccain joins four other senate republicans who have voiced opposition to a filibuster including susan collins, roy blunt, lamar alexander and richard burr. and that doesn't include thad coc

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much. i do appreciate you making time for me. just aheadsenatorsjohnmccainandlindsay graham sounded optimistic after meeting with president obama on immigration reform. what it means for the prospects of a bipartisan deal. we'll speak with congressman luis gutierrez and alan grayson. plus the state of illinois is one step closer to marriage equality. we'll bring you the details ahead. look, if you have copd like me, you know it can be hard to breathe, and how that feels. copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva helps control my copd symptoms by keeping my airways open for 24 hours. plus, it reduces copd flare-ups. spiriva is the only once-daily inhaled copd maintenance treatment that does both. spiriva handihaler tiotropium bromide inhalation powder does not replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms. tell your doctor if you have kidney problems, glaucoma, trouble urinating, or an enlarged prostate. these may worsen with spiriva. discuss all medicines you take, even eye drops. stop taking spiriva and seek immediate medical help if your breathing suddenly

to cut a deal. >> now we know the president did reach out to two leading senaterepublicansjohnmccain, lindseygraham, invited them to come over to the white house todays on -- today to talk about immigration reform but he wants to talk about sequester these forced budget cuts. what's going on. has that meeting yet taken place? >> reporter: that meeting was scheduled to take place about half hour ago. we were told by the white house that the meeting could cover a range of topics so that could include immigration. these budget cuts. and perhaps other topics that have come up on capitol hill recently. who knows maybe foreign affairs and other issues. so presumably it's going on right now and i'll give you a read out as soon as we have it. >> brief us on what happens. i'm curious to see how much of an effort there was made by the president and these two republican senators to work out a deal, perhaps at least start a negotiation during these final three days to avert these forced spending cuts. >> we were told when the president called john mccain, senator mccain last week that's when th

, if they think, well, we don't have the votes. we'll give some more information tosenatorjohnmccainandlindsey graham. it is also interesting to note, jon, lindsey graham is someone who supported obama supreme court nominees. he clearly is opposing hagel here. jon: primarily what a lot of these senators want is information on a number of fronts, especially on the benghazi attack. what happened, how muc did the white house know, how involved was the president? that's what they're looking for, right? >> yeah, that is what they're looking for. they did ask some questions of hillary clinton about what she said to the president. their talks that night. they want more information as far as what, what was happening that night as these reports were coming in that christopher stevens and others were in danger. what was the white house doing? they want more details on it. until they get those details senator john mccain said looks like he would support the filibuster. earlier in the week he was saying, suggesting he wouldn't. but he wants more answers. until he gets the answers looks like ha

the whole thing. >> please do. stephanie: lastweek,johnmccainwasall elder states man-y. that was his policy last week. respecting the penalty's prerogative in making nominations role and advicing consent, blocking nomination is just not done. it's just not done. >> hmm ok. stephanie: now after saying just days ago they should not filibuster mccain said he hasn't made his mind up. he appears to be aligning himself with his closest little buddy, lindsey graham. they are so gilligan and the captain, those two. who had been demanding more information on benghazi, which he has nothing to do with. >> they're more like thurston h. oh well and lovie. stephanie: benghazi is cat nip to the tea baggers and he's trying to keep him from getting primary challenged in 2014. that's what that's about. >> huh? >> how did your little plan go to get susan rice? how did that go? [ laughter ] stephanie: that blowed up real good. >> let me just say benghazi, benghazi benghazi. >> this is the first time in the history of our country that a presidential nominee for secretary of defense has been dill busted.

that would be an unprecedented effort.whenjohnmccainpointsthat out, you know, seriously. >> huh? >> stephanie: senator carl levin said their demands are beyond the scope of what has been asked traditionally of former nominees. a point echoed by john mccain. >> eh? >> did i or didn't i? wait. what day is it? who am i for and against? who am i mad at this week so i can choose my position on who i have a grudge against? >> no, sir one should impugn his character and integrity. they were accusing him of lying. >> of colluding with iran against the interests of the american people. i mean dick cheney went on -- i guess it was a fox interview. can't go anywhere else. but he was -- his big thing was that the president's choices including hagel are a specific strategy to endanger the american people and undermine be. it's doing it. >> stephanie: he can talk because he served so patrioticically in vietnam. >> no terrorist things happened on cheney's watch though. >> you're nothing. >> nothing bad happened. >> no wars of choice. we made sure that our soldiers had everything they needed wh

. absolutely. yeah. it was really -- it was a startlingmomentjohnmccaintalking to a parent -- it's just -- that's who they become. there's nothing human. it's just about oh no that's not going to happen. fifty-eight minutes after the hour. back with charlie pierce and more on the "stephanie miller show." ♪ [♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: hello. hour number 2, current tv land. jacki schechner? >> yes. >> stephanie: i don't know if you heard rude pundit on yesterday, but he was giving governor rick scott of florida a lot of props. but you were just saying you don't buy it. it seems like a lot of these republican governors are looking at their approval rating and moving to the center. >> yes, he saw the poll numbers and decided to do something immediately because he is up for reelection. but i don't buy it. it just doesn't gel with his long-standing philosophy about health care, which for him, he thinks should be for profit. >> stephanie: yeah, his in particular in the state of florida, if people are paying at attention to history. jacki schechner in the current new

was to the right of hillary clinton during the xanl for going into pakistan and not -- he -->>johnmccain. >>on pakistan he was, right. this shouldn't be that big of a surprise that he is hawkish. this has been one of the central tensions, but sort of aspects of the obama presidency. >> i hear what you're saying. at the same time, you know, he came into office under the banner of no longer will there be black sites. we are closing gitmo. extraordinary rendition. these kind of practices put in place by george w. bush. that is going to be -- we're going to close that chapter in american history. what this reveals is that that chapter is far from being closed. it's still being written. >> we are still arguing based on the movie "zero dark thirty" whether or not enhanced interrogation, torture, helped us get osama bin laden, and you hear conflicting reports about whether or not that was true. if you ask the average person, does interrogation enhance interrogation, does torture work? you'll get ten different anz. we are as a country very much grappling with these questions and trying to sort

a war overseas. and you have people like lindsey grahamandjohnmccainwhoclaim to be patriots who care about the pentagon and claim to care about the military, but yet they're really showing a lot of pique here. if we don't get what they want out of the administration on a completely separate issue they're going to penalize. they're going to penalize the pentagon. and that just to me is really not mature. it's not playing grown-ups. it's just using political leverage for your own hobbyhorse. and this is an issue that the president and others should try to take to the public -- >> my point in this is it could have been avoided. this is what elections are about. you get to be in a position to chait rules of the senate. you can't worry about the next senate. that's how i view it. and what could happen. the rules of the senate are not as important as running the country when we've got some critical issues -- >> i think that's a perfectly legitimate position to take, ed. and you know, i see it from both sides. but you know, harry reid decided not to go nuclear, which this would have be

nomination as secretary of defense. late today, procedural vote failed aftersenatorjohnmccainhadmade the case for waiting until after next week's recess. >> i think that is a sufficient period of time to get answers to outstanding questions and i think that senator hagel after that period of time deserves a cloture vote and a uvote on his. >> i have valued your thoughts and your contributions. i think most all of us in public office feel that way. >> among questions, speeches like to one in june 13, 2008, before the arab american antidiscrimination committee that hagel did not disclose to armed services committee. earlier they blasted republicans for holding up hagel's nomination to lead the pentagon. >> it's shocking that my republican colleagues would leave the nation would a fully empowered secretary of defense. during all the things we have going on in the world, including a war. >> but panetta isn't leaving yet. and 60-vote requirement is not unusual, say republicans and reid was fine when it was president bush's nominees. top republicans say members have legitimate concerns. >>

hagel is at the center of a senate showdown. evensenatorjohnmccainnowbacking away from his no filibuster stance of weeks past. the majority leader harry reid took to the floor of the last hour to make this impassioned plea. >> in less than two hours, our country will be without a secretary of defense. there is never in the history of the country been a filibuster of a defense secretary nominee.

to be here with all of them.senatorjohnmccain, whoneeds no introduction. >> but he always appreciate it. [laughter] i would just like to very briefly say that i thank senator enhofe for his attention tot his issue. -- senator inhofe and others on this issue. he pointed out the devastating effect of sequestration. if it is implemented, it will cut every ship, truck, a tank, research and development across the board. the secretary of defense panetta, a man that i admire greatly, called sequestration a meat ax approach. i think it is important to note, according to one economic analysis, it costs a loss of $350 in full-time direct jobs, 650,000 indirect job losses. that is a lot of jobs. my friends, in these difficult times. secretary panetta said, "this has become a very serious threat to our national security." para chairman of the joint chiefs of staff says the same thing. in the late 1970's, after the vietnam war, the chief of staff testified before congress that we had a "hollow army," which then caused the attention of the american people and one of the reasons why ronald reagan was

is you'll get more votes for the cloture. peoplelikejohnmccainandothers who are uncomfortable with the precedent of filibuster ing but who will vote no on the final nomination. >> bill: one of the reasons he ought to be uncomfortable is because if, some day, there were ever a republican back in the white house right, they would be setting a precedent that for cabinet appointees, especially defense secretary that the senate would not just advise and consent but could actually veto. i don't think they want that. i don't think they want to set that precedent. >> they don't think they have a chance of winning at the white house any time soon. because they're really shooting themselves in the foot. or god forbid, you have a case where you don't have an -- in either party, you don't have the president controlling the senate. how are you ever going to get a cabinet filled out and get the federal government working at all in any kinds of functional means when this is the precedent that's set. >> bill: it has always been in this country since the beginning, the guy who wins gets to app

starting at noon eastern on c-span radio. "meet the press" atnoon.johnmccain, andmark kelly, co- founder of americans for responsible solutions on guns in america. at 1:00, guests include paul ryan, castro. chris wallace and lyndsay grahnm and rand paul. "state of the union" with jack reed and chuck schumer from new york. also, the chair of the house committee john rogers. haley barber, corey booker, and donald wharl. all starting at noone aste eastn on c-span radio. you can also listen with our free apps for your iphone, android, or black burry. -- blackberry. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> i think the women were interested in politics but had no ability to express that so they were attracted to bed who were going to be politically active or were already politically active. >> i fight each of them intriguing. probably half of them because they are so obscure. i think half of these would then probably would be almost totally unrecognizable to most men and women on the street. >> c-span premiere

, once in the stands for george w. bush. on the subject of dreams and nightmares, guess whichonejohnmccainwashaving in 2007? a big yawn from harry reid in 2010. and for vice president biden, perhaps a moment of meditation in 2011. mr. biden's hands have their very own chapter in the state of the union history book. so much sitting and standing and clapping, easy to see why he might have a timing issue. >> less than 1%. >> reporter: -- there is the air boxing fist pump -- >> that dream is why the working class kid from scranton can sit behind me. >> reporter: and, of course, the palms to the sky shrug. >> nobody messes with joe. am i right? >> reporter: we have the constitution to thanks for this annual address. and even if the state of the union is animated, sleepy, or dreamy, according to the president -- >> the state of our union will always be strong. >> john berman, this is why i love you. let me just say this, shouldn't everyone in that sacred room just always sort of assume you can be on camera at any moment in time, right? on your best behavior. >> absolutely. drink 12 cups of cof

it. everybody left washington. there is one meeting with lindsey grahamandjohnmccain. supposedto be immigration, not sequester. doesn't seem they're worried about it. >> when it comes to taking questions he compares unfavorably to the past three presidents before him by something like hundreds of availabilities. they have outdone, president clinton and other george bush. >> one thing i can be sure you will not be invited in for "60 minutes" type interview. >> i believe that is true, yeah. martha: cross that off the list. >> i look forward to your sit-down bob. >> okay. martha: don't we all. bob, thank you. mary katherine. thanks you guys. >> thanks. martha: see you later. bill: we do that every day by the way, bob, too, we don't look at the right camera. martha: par for the course. bill: we've been doing this for six months. some eye-opening numbers on the economy. how some claim the budget battle in washington is holding the economy back. we'll examine the numbers and ask whether or not that is the case. martha: new details in this search for an american couple. they took a o

? >> yes. >>now,johnmccainhasalready think that he doesn't think republicans ought to filibuster this. what will you do? you're just going to put a hold on it? >> yeah, i'm not filibustering. this is a national security failure of monumental proportions, and i'm not going to stop until we get to the bottom of it. >> first of all, i'm shocked. you know, lindsey graham doesn't usually like getting in front of a camera and going on the sunday talk shows. so i'm shocked that lindsey actually was on. >> i think it was a stakeout. >> it must have been a stakeout. >> he staked out "face the nation." when they unlocked the door, he ran in. >> chased bob schieffer. you know, somebody ought to tell the republicans in the senate that they need to talk to lindsey. you know, it's kind of like when regis did "who wants to be a millionaire?" it worked one night a week. >> it worked. >> but then abc said it works one night. then two, then three, then five, then seven. >> then it stops working. >> it stops working. >> yeah. >> lindsey's on -- >> are there any other republicans who want to be on televi

's delegation,senatorjohnmccain, wheni say this sequester will be devastating for arizona. it's bad for hardworking americans and it turns a blind eye to my state's proud effort and proven perseverance. i affirm my commitment to working with anybody who is willing to put our differences aside and put the people we serve first. we still have time to stop this. let's roll up our sleeves together and get the work done. thank you, madam speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back. the chair recognizes the gentleman from illinois, mr. quigley, for five minutes. mr. quigley: thank you, madam speaker. madam speaker, i rise today because we have to get our fiscal house in order, but sequestration is not the way to do it. there is no question we need to address our unsustainable debt and deficit. our debt remains above 73% of g.d.p., up from 36% just six years ago. and our deficit still hovers just below $1 trillion. but the solution must be a big, balanced, and bipartisan deficit reduction plan monitored like plans like cooper-latourette, not the meat ax approach of sequest

in colorado and moved here because i reallylikedjohnmccainwhenhe was anti-bush. >> you moved to arizona because you liked one of their senator? >> yeah when mccain used to go head-to-head against bush's policies -- >> that's really a reason to pick up and move interstate. >> caller: well, i lost my job -- >> okay. [overlapping speakers] >> caller: he opened up a shop down in bull head and -- [overlapping speakers] >> caller: and then when i got here he died. his wife sold the business and i have been kind of stranded ever since. i bought a house that i can't sell -- >> stephanie: well you'll always have bull head. [ laughter ] >> you got out of that just in time. >> stephanie: eddie in tennessee. >> caller: hi, how are y'all doing? >> stephanie: good. >> caller: liberal caller from tennessee. that's kind of unusual, isn't it? >> actually we have been getting quite a few since we have been on current tv. >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: here is the deal, i was watching one of these shows -- i can't tell anymore whether they are conservative or liberal, but they we

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