http://www.stereophile.com/news/050905debate/Just want to thank Arny for this. You saved me over $1000 on the anthem receiver I was going to buy. After listening to the debate I decided to stick with my 1978 vintage Sony separate tuner/amp and spend a few dollars on used paradigm atoms. After dialing the bass knob -8 (why do they port bookshelf speakers ugh) I'm immersed in affordable HiFi sound as opposed to overpriced placebo. This should be required listening for every new user. Using the vu meters on said amp, I discovered it takes less than 1 watt of power to fill my small living room with sound...any cheap avr can do that. All that's left is tuning the subwoofer to deliver those deepest freqs the atoms cannot. While I'm sure Mr Atkinson is an intelligent individual he failed on the most important aspect. He claimed that short tests of unknown music makes it difficult to produce anything but a null result. Fine. Offer up abx testing using your favorite music. Something he refuses to do. Thank you again, Arny, you saved me a lot of money.