actually it was something else, i had content manipulation disabled for java. unclicked it and everything worked fine

i knew it was something with my settings- i ended up pointing it to the same speed dial i had for a ccff install that worked without problems, which still wouldnt show the images, so it was just a matter of figuring out what was set wrong

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a had content manipulation disabled for java. unclicked it and everything worked fine

jesse, thank you for mentioning "manipulation disabled for java." I had been having much the same kind if problem with 1.5.2. You made my day. Appearantly I need to do some more homework regarding javascript. I tried to check out manipulation at http://java.sun.com and some other sites but AFAIK they could be speaking Martian. Perhaps someone here can explain it to me in layman terms.