When first made aware of this quote I didn’t really believe it. I didn’t want to believe it! If it wasn’t brought to my attention by a good friend, I wouldn’t even have bothered to look it up in the Watchtower Library. Because I know this person to be a serious Christian I did look it up, still not believing this quote could ever have been printed in a serious religious journal. Guess what, the quote below was copied right out of the Watchtower Library. Do you think this is the kind of thing that an organization directed by Jehovah’s Holy Spirit would print? Hardly! While they are not condoning in print the practice they mentioned, after such a statement, most Christians likely would feel compelled to launch into a condemnation of such a practice! To call it what it is, CHILD ABUSE! No, not the spirit led organization of God. They just take the tone that it’s probably not a good idea because it could cause your children to be masturbators in the future. This is a sick example of the Watchtower going places that they NEVER should go in the pages of their magazine. Is this organization spirit directed, you decide. I have…..

*** w73 9/15 p. 568 Breaking Free of Self-Abuse—Why? How? ***

“Did you know, for example, that mothers and fathers who stroke the genitals of their fretful babies to keep them quiet are unwittingly encouraging them to become masturbators later on? Boys and girls may start to play with their private parts during puberty and, not receiving any counsel against this, the first thing they know they are “hooked” on the habit.”

I have a question for the Watchtower organization. I apologize to all others before I even ask it. Who masturbates their babies to keep them quiet? I mean really, what kind of sick, twisted individual would even conceive of such a thing, print it in the pages of your journal in such a matter of fact tone and then let the opportunity go by without condemning the practice? Watchtower Society, I strongly suggest that if you have friends that practice such criminal behavior, you get some new ones and turn the old ones into the authorities. Oh yeah, I forgot that you have a history of not turning self confessed child molesters into the police, citing clergy privilege. That you’ve paid out millions of dollars in settlements to child abuse victims for the way you’ve handled these kinds of cases. Then as a condition of settlement, you had the victims agree to non-disclosure so they wouldn’t spread the word among the flock.

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I couldn’t have said it better myself. That was a Grand Slam brother. You hit the ball out of the park!

Right out of the Insight Book from the Watchtower:

FORNICATION
Illicit sex relations outside of Scriptural marriage. The Hebrew verb za·nah′ and its related forms convey the idea of harlotry, immoral intercourse, fornication, or prostitution. (Ge 38:24; Ex 34:16; Ho 1:2; Le 19:29) The Greek word translated “fornication” is por·nei′a. Regarding the meanings of por·nei′a, B. F. Westcott in his book Saint Paul’s Epistle to the Ephesians (1906, p. 76) says: “This is a general term for all unlawful intercourse, (I) adultery: Hos. ii. 2, 4 (LXX.); Matt. v. 32; xix. 9; (2) unlawful marriage, I Cor. v. I; (3) fornication, the common sense as here [Eph 5:3].” Bauer’s Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament (revised by F. W. Gingrich and F. Danker, 1979, p. 693) defines por·nei′a as “prostitution, unchastity, fornication, of every kind of unlawful sexual intercourse.” Porneia is understood to involve the grossly immoral use of the genital organ(s) of at least one human; also there must have been two or more parties (including another consenting human or a beast), whether of the same sex or the opposite sex. (Jude 7) The unlawful act of a rapist is fornication, but, of course, that does not make the person who is forcibly raped also a fornicator.

Friends, this is por·nei′a!

Masturbation is one person.

Fornication/por·nei′a takes TWO

This is child abuse, ask you local police, that is why people go to prison for it!

Most all parents wouldn’t even think of doing such a thing to their baby/child. The thought is repulsive to us. By the Watchtower writing such sick words they plant thoughts into the minds of people that never would have considered such action on their own. Now they read this and think it is only masturbation? Is it any wonder the JW’s have these sick problems???

I must say, out of everything I have seen so far from the Watchtower, this one tops them all as the most foolish, shocking, stupid statement yet. It has been a ticking time bomb and now it is going to explode. This stupid statement has not been brought out fully into the light yet.

The sad thing is that when the WT mentions something like this its because there is usually a problem with it among the congregations. We all know the extreme pressure put on parents by the elders and the CO to keep their little ones quiet during the long boring meetings. Most likely it was cirrculated among the friends that this method keeps babies quiet! The WT didnt do enough in my opinion to condemn this if this is the case. Only Jehovah knows. When it comes down to it the WT dosent care about the individuals it only cares about having things done its way, it bends for no one, even the little children. The meetings are HELL for most children! Love?…yeah, whatever!

Dennis, well said. I, like many, must have read that 1973 article and probably wondered at the time why such a thing was even mentioned. Of course we were always expected not to question what the “slave” wrote and probably assumed that there was some good reason for it. It just goes to show how manipulated one’s mind can be. I think the following quote of the Society sums it up very well.

“We cannot afford to dirty our minds with things ‘SHAMEFUL EVEN TO RELATE.’ (Ephesians 5:12) So BE SELECTIVE ABOUT WHAT YOU listen to, watch, and READ. BE ON GUARD AND REACT QUICKLY TO REJECT OBJECTIONABLE MATERIAL. (Psalm 119:37) This will require real self-control, perhaps figuratively ‘pummeling your body and leading it as a slave.’ (1 Corinthians 9:27) Always remember, though, that what we watch in secrecy is observed by ‘the One who is invisible.’ (Hebrews 11:27) So shun what is questionable. ‘Keep on making sure of what is acceptable to the Lord.’ – Ephesians 5:10.” [Watch. 1987 Nov 1, “Are You Remaining Clean in Every Respect?”, paragraph 9; emphasis mine.]

Of course this is not the only time this has happened. Think of the other times in the past when children have had to listen to things read out of the Society’s publications at meetings concerning sexual matters. I’m sure I was not the only one to find those occasions objectionable. How can a child maintain his/her innocence when confronted with Congregation Study articles that include mention of “such acts as oral sex, anal sex, and masturbating another person” (Watch. 2004 Feb 15, “Maintain Chastity by Safeguarding Your Heart”, paragraph 15)?

Sorry brothers, I should have added this on my first comment, so please, if I may, I would just like to thank Jayme & JWB’s for their comments, because I wholeheartedly agree with them. They have spoken to my heart with what they have said. I have always thought I was alone on this issue, but now I know that I am not, and it is very comforting and encouraging to know that someone else feels the same way. So, I thank you sincerely brothers, it means alot to me.

Brother stranger, I think you’ll find there are many who feel as we do. I hope that websites such as this where there is genuine concern for the plight of sincere and righteously indignant friends will give moral support and a sense of brotherly love for those who may feel alone.

I know this may be hard to believe, but the Society may have been correct, at least to point out that such practices do/have existed in many cultures in the past, including Victorian England. My sister who is clinical physiologist told me that in her studies, she came across the fact that in Victorian England, it was common for mothers to pacify their daughters in the manner described above and in the below article (which I just randomly Googled).

Please do not be offended by what I posted below, it is taken from a serious academic site and in no way condones the behaviour describes, but merely points out what has been observed in some cultures…

In some societies, children’s genitals are fondled to amuse and please them, calm them or lull them to sleep….This would not constitute ‘abuse’ if in that society the behavior was not proscribed and was not for the purposes of adult sexual satisfaction, even if the adult tangentially experienced some degree of pleasure.146 (pasted from http://www.psychohistory.com/h.....ution.html)

Whether witnesses or not we are all sinners, born in sin, witnesses do their best not to sin. while other church members sin openly and nothing is said about it .millions of people are only christian in name but not in their deeds .

Rom 17:14 for we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. Rom 7:15 for that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that I do not, but what I hate that I do cont. to read Rom 7:15-24.

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