Yeah, because I totally judge my quality of life by your meter. And I have failed many times in life, that's how you can measure true success. I embrace failure just as much as success. I'm'a go back to hanging with great friends and loving life now - cheers!

To fail at something you have to attempt to do it first. I don't even know what it is he thinks you're attempting and neither does he, either. I think he's just using you as somebody else to insult.To all those who say ignore Disco Boy, I take the opposite view. Make him put you on ignore, a feat I actually achieved. In the end he'll have nobody left to insult. It also has the added bonus that I can quote him and he can't reply. It was hard work to get him that far, tho'.

What then is the difference between ZPZ and Zappa (and the MOI)? If you want my 50 cents the latter evolved and improvised from one night to the next. The former by "diligent" definition are there to preserve the music in aspic. Nothing wrong with that, but I know what I prefer.

_________________"I have learned from my mistakes, and I am sure I can repeat them exactly."

To fail at something you have to attempt to do it first. I don't even know what it is he thinks you're attempting and neither does he, either. I think he's just using you as somebody else to insult.To all those who say ignore Disco Boy, I take the opposite view. Make him put you on ignore, a feat I actually achieved. In the end he'll have nobody left to insult. It also has the added bonus that I can quote him and he can't reply. It was hard work to get him that far, tho'.

What then is the difference between ZPZ and Zappa (and the MOI)? If you want my 50 cents the latter evolved and improvised from one night to the next. The former by "diligent" definition are there to preserve the music in aspic. Nothing wrong with that, but I know what I prefer.

Thanks Caputh - believe me, I certainly didn't stew. I've noticed a stark difference between ZPZ and Zappa (and the MOI) - one (not saying which) contained Frank Zappa while the other did not. It's a little difficult to catch at times, but if you look for it - you'll see....

Here is a transcript of some of George Duke's commentary." I was totally blown away by what that band did. Tottaly blown away by Dweezil, who has become an incredible guitarist now. I mean the first time I heard him play, I thought he was OK.Techincally he was OK, he played all..., but he's turned... he's turned that around, he's another level of guitarist now. Because they played the music incredibly well. Better Than I Think We Played It!" - George Duke

Did it for a micro second occur to you that George is being friendly and polite?

Yeah, because I totally judge my quality of life by your meter. And I have failed many times in life, that's how you can measure true success. I embrace failure just as much as success. I'm'a go back to hanging with great friends and loving life now - cheers!

So you admit you've FAILED?!

Gotcha!

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good gawd, trendy and disco in the same thread. two peas in a pod. think I'm gonna have to clear out of here. plus that guys huge pic of the gun in face. can't stand to see that one more time.

Here is a transcript of some of George Duke's commentary." I was totally blown away by what that band did. Tottaly blown away by Dweezil, who has become an incredible guitarist now. I mean the first time I heard him play, I thought he was OK.Techincally he was OK, he played all..., but he's turned... he's turned that around, he's another level of guitarist now. Because they played the music incredibly well. Better Than I Think We Played It!" - George Duke

Did it for a micro second occur to you that George is being friendly and polite?

I had the chance to discuss Zappa Plays Zappa with George Duke. I get the impression he is being totally honest.

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FZ "Read It And Weep"
April 17,1981

Frank Zappa left the ZFT in Control of his Vaults and Artistic rights.
We the fans are not in control. We have a choice to use our eyes and ears or read it and weep.

Did it for a micro second occur to you that George is being friendly and polite?

With Zappa Plays Zappa some fans just don't get it. It's hard for them to comprehend that a modern ensemble performs any given portion of the composers work at a higher ambient domain than the composers bands. Folks have argued with me over this issue for a long time. That's OK, George got it! I certainly had enough conversation with George Duke to understand that Honesty, Fairness and Integrity is the fabric he wove into his statement.

From my conversations with George Duke, I knew well that he spoke the truth. This was his truth, his belief. This was so much a part of who he was. This does not mean that fans need to agree with George, but I 100% believe he meant it the exact way he said it.There was no overt need for George to articulate his commentary "Because they played the music incredibly well. Better Than I Think We Played It!" George could just as easily have stated that Dweezil has improved as a guitarist since his early education and performance of the heydays of the 80s metal genre......that ZPZ play the music well, very well, that he had a great time but his words are his words and I have absolutely no doubt that he meant it with Honesty, Fairness and Integrity. This was from the bottom of his heart.

This comment is part of a memorial, and to question it in the manner some are is extremely disrespectful to his life. If folks do not want to share the same opinion as George that's fine, that is a part of life but there is no need to downplay his commentary for anything than exactly what it is. For the folks that are a downtrodden mechanism of what George stated is extremely disrespectful.

" I was totally blown away by what that band did. Tottaly blown away by Dweezil, who has become an incredible guitarist now. I mean the first time I heard him play, I thought he was OK.Techincally he was OK, he played all..., but he's turned... he's turned that around, he's another level of guitarist now. Because they played the music incredibly well. Better Than I Think We Played It!" - George Duke

_________________Trendmonger's Moment Of Clarity

FZ "Read It And Weep"
April 17,1981

Frank Zappa left the ZFT in Control of his Vaults and Artistic rights.
We the fans are not in control. We have a choice to use our eyes and ears or read it and weep.

good gawd, trendy and disco in the same thread. two peas in a pod. think I'm gonna have to clear out of here. plus that guys huge pic of the gun in face. can't stand to see that one more time.

Oh God; the man (?) who posts inventive and intelligent appraisals such as:

Disco Boy wrote:

Shitheads like YOU are the problem,

Disco Boy wrote:

just maybe you'll finally get something right one of these days...

Disco Boy wrote:

I'll discuss whatever the FUCK I want to, asshole

Disco Boy wrote:

Your diarrhoea-filled-ultra-moronic nonsense gets old fast. In fact, at this point, I'm positive you wouldn't be able to answer ANY of my questions honestly if your life depended on it, asshole...

...in every second post (and that's just in this thread) is complaining about receiving "ad hominems". I wonder why. Awhh, diddums.

As to the "disrespect" shown to George Duke,some might argue that it was, delicately put, slightly inappropriate to employ the recent "voice from the grave" as an "advertisement" for ZPZ. I'm sure that wasn't their intention, but, on reflection, it appears to be Trendy's.

_________________"I have learned from my mistakes, and I am sure I can repeat them exactly."

Wow, I worked on the EP... weird times, weird enough to compare with Trendy!

During the final mixes, Al wasn't feeling it, so he made a few control room modifications to set the mood. Jourgensen had mic stands all around the room with skulls of various animals perched atop. On the mixing console facing everyone was a super bright performance quality strobe light and it was so loud you wouldn't hear a firecracker go off. They rented a live chicken for a week, for inspiration, and the thing was so freaked by the volume and lighting that it just stood there on the mixing desk screaming and we couldn't hear it make a sound. That image is as vivid in my mind as it was back then.Then, for the next week it roamed around the studio shitting where it pleased. Yes, Al got away with damn near whatever he wanted.

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Off-topic but then again, so is the whole fucking thread by this point, right? Wow - I never knew that Arkay, we'll have to talk more about that at some point... we're playing at the Urban Pig Roast on Sept. 7th if you can make it out. Buncha bands and I think it's like $5 "suggested donation". No FZ this time but a few special covers in there...

Hahahahaha, I was just driving and had to pull over.I was listening to an old radio program entitled BBC 3 Jazz From Hell. George is talking about his days in the 74 band and says "I have never been in a band that tight. I go back and listen to the stuff now, I said, I played that?"

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