I'm not a fan of Karpyshyn's writing but I've read the Bane Trilogy and Revan and Revan is by far my favorite.

Oh, good! This excites me for the book, because I was a little worried. I enjoyed Path of Destruction, but the others were kind of "Meh" to me. Will probably be reading Revan within the next couple weeks.

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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:34 am

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Finally finished this.

It was great for the most part but with a bit of an open ending. Without giving anything away does anyone think there will be another Revan novel?

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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:46 pm

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Crash OverrideMaster

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darthrevan1 wrote:

Finally finished this.

It was great for the most part but with a bit of an open ending. Without giving anything away does anyone think there will be another Revan novel?

Have to say Scourge was a great character.

Revan's story continues in TOR.

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:28 am

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Crash Override wrote:

darthrevan1 wrote:

Finally finished this.

It was great for the most part but with a bit of an open ending. Without giving anything away does anyone think there will be another Revan novel?

Have to say Scourge was a great character.

Revan's story continues in TOR.

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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:48 pm

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Does Revan's story end in TOR? Do you get to kill the Emperor in the game?

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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:51 pm

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Crash OverrideMaster

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Darth Skuldren wrote:

Does Revan's story end in TOR? Do you get to kill the Emperor in the game?

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There's a Republic flashpoint in which you rescue Revan from an Imperial prison. Then there's an Imperial flashpoint in which the Emperor sends you to kill Revan. Revan has gone pretty nutty and reverted to Mandalorian War form, he seems to want to genocide the Imperials. You also destroy HK-47. Anyway you kill him and he vanishes in an explosion/flash of light. He also quotes Malak's final words.

The Jedi Knight storyline concludes with you killing the Sith Emperor. You get Lord Scourge as a companion as well.

I'm kind of curious about the HK-47 situation considering that he appeared in Star Wars Galaxies. Revan wistfully states that he could rebuild him but it wouldn't be the same -- and you kill Revan so he doesn't rebuild him.

Also, as a consolation for killing HK-47, for what it's worth, you get an HK-51 droid as a companion (all classes do I believe).

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Crash Override wrote:

Darth Skuldren wrote:

Does Revan's story end in TOR? Do you get to kill the Emperor in the game?

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There's a Republic flashpoint in which you rescue Revan from an Imperial prison. Then there's an Imperial flashpoint in which the Emperor sends you to kill Revan. Revan has gone pretty nutty and reverted to Mandalorian War form, he seems to want to genocide the Imperials. You also destroy HK-47. Anyway you kill him and he vanishes in an explosion/flash of light. He also quotes Malak's final words.

The Jedi Knight storyline concludes with you killing the Sith Emperor. You get Lord Scourge as a companion as well.

I'm kind of curious about the HK-47 situation considering that he appeared in Star Wars Galaxies. Revan wistfully states that he could rebuild him but it wouldn't be the same -- and you kill Revan so he doesn't rebuild him.

Also, as a consolation for killing HK-47, for what it's worth, you get an HK-51 droid as a companion (all classes do I believe).

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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:52 pm

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I would imagine all of it. They aren't mutually exclusive; the Republic one happens before the Imperial one and has to happen before the Imperial one.

By splitting the factions, they've eliminated the "dark side" stuff from being non-canon, because now it's the Sith doing that and it's not mutually exclusive with the Jedi storylines.

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Although killing Revan isn't necessarily dark side. He's gone nutso and he doesn't give you a choice in the matter. You could offer to join him and he's like "nope, I'm gonna kill you." You can probably get light side points from that mission.

Do you mean to say that you kill Revan in the Republic version, or that that's what happens in the Imperial version?

Also, I am presuming that the killing of the Emperor is the big finale, right? (to the actual storyline, I mean)

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Do you mean to say that you kill Revan in the Republic version, or that that's what happens in the Imperial version?

Also, I am presuming that the killing of the Emperor is the big finale, right? (to the actual storyline, I mean)

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What I mean is, Revan is in an Imperial prison at the start of the game, and the Republic flashpoint results in his being freed from Imperial captivity. Then he starts to build an army of battle droids to genocide the Sith Empire, and the Emperor sends the Imperial characters to stop him in the Imperial flashpoint. Even if you try to side with Revan to stop the Emperor (as you can be a light side Sith), he refuses to and attacks you.

Killing the Emperor is only the finale to the Jedi Knight class storyline.

As a class quest, a Jedi Knight could recruit a Jedi Consular, a Smuggler, and a Trooper to fill out his party and all four of them defeat the Emperor, but otherwise those three classes won't face the Emperor -- although a few months ago I had heard rumors that the Jedi Consular also faces him in a different body after the JK kills him, I haven't heard anything to corroborate that since launch. The other characters wouldn't factor into the story, either, e.g. they wouldn't have dialogue options and they'd just be there as support.

Each character class is essentially its own game, albeit with overlapping territory and side quests. If you play as Republic, you'll never set foot on Korriban or Hutta, and likewise with Empire, you'll never set foot on Tython or Ord Mantell. I also believe that you can't visit Coruscant as an Imperial or Dromund Kaas as a Republic player, and I can test that but the servers are offline for a patch currently.

I'm fairly certain as well that certain planets aren't part of the class storylines, so if you stick to the storyline and don't explore at all, you'll never visit certain planets as one class.

I find it curious how powerful these ancient Sith are in the KOTOR era, such as Sion, Nihilus, and the Emperor, considering that it seems like whenever someone from this era (or earlier) somehow survives to the film saga era, they're not even given the dignity of being dispatched by someone of significance, but are ignobly dispatched by some scrub. For instance, Exar Kun by a bunch of barely trained Jedi and Arden Lyn by Laddinare Torbin (who?).

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:00 am

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Crash Override wrote:

I find it curious how powerful these ancient Sith are in the KOTOR era, such as Sion, Nihilus, and the Emperor, considering that it seems like whenever someone from this era (or earlier) somehow survives to the film saga era, they're not even given the dignity of being dispatched by someone of significance, but are ignobly dispatched by some scrub. For instance, Exar Kun by a bunch of barely trained Jedi and Arden Lyn by Laddinare Torbin (who?).

Judging by your coments, plus what I have seen on YouTube didn't Revan & Emperor kinda

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suffer the same fate (killed by a random no name)?

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What suprises me is how

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powerful the Emperor is in the book yet hes easily dispatched as people have said by a no name

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I can't really comment on it, since I've not played the game, nor seen videos of that event, but I do remember Crash saying that the characters the players inhabit are the best of their type (like the bounty hunter is the Boba Fett of their day), so if the Emperor is taken down by the playable characters, then he's not taken down by a No-Name.

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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:11 am

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Im glad to hear that _________________"You see that I was right, now, dont you?. The truth is written in blood"

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:43 pm

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Basically, consider each class storyline in TOR as its own KOTOR game. The protagonist of each storyline is only as nameless as the Jedi Exile is in KOTOR 2, but she's not considered a "no name." And each character is distinguished as being exceptional in some way.