24/7 was obviously hyperbole. It wasn't taken literally. The context of the comment, however, which appears to be missed by some was this...

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Originally Posted by Forenci

This is why I personally believe as pro-athlete you just need to forgo partying. It's fine for us normal people because we're not famous (and therefore not a target) but when you're famous and you're throwing parties bad stuff always seems to happen.

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Originally Posted by Bob Sanders Dreadlock

It is why I love Kevin Durant for the most part he stays out of the spotlight. 24/7 basketball.

In that context, proving that Kevin Durant regularly parties, and is no different than the majority of other high-profile celebrities that party, is relevant.

24/7 was obviously hyperbole. It wasn't taken literally. The context of the comment, however, which appears to be missed by some was this...

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This is why I personally believe as pro-athlete you just need to forgo partying. It's fine for us normal people because we're not famous (and therefore not a target) but when you're famous and you're throwing parties bad stuff always seems to happen.

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It is why I love Kevin Durant for the most part he stays out of the spotlight. 24/7 basketball.

In that context, proving that Kevin Durant regularly parties, and is no different than the majority of other high-profile celebrities that party, is relevant.

He is different then Aldon Smith!!!!!!! This topic is not about athletes having a personal life, drinking and partying. That is not relevant. It's not relevant to anything. This topic is about an NFL player getting stabbed at his party and then people getting shot. This is on the heels of Smith getting arrested not too long ago.

One person responded by giving his personal view on professional athletes (which he thinks athletes should avoid partying since they're a target for violent acts). Not a view I would agree with since it's unreasonable to think that every athlete isn't going to drink and party, but an opinion that someone voiced.

Another person responded to that opinion by saying Kevin Durant, FOR THE MOST PART, stays out of the spotlight. GASPS!!!!! Then he backed it up by saying (paraphrasing) that he's focused on basketball. GASPS!!!!!

This needed to be defeated? These remarks needed to be shot down? We needed to see pictures of Kevin Durant drunk? His name on a poster as a host for a party? This needed to be proved wrong? This is somehow related to Aldon Smith getting stabbed, people getting shot?

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Originally Posted by Ness

But, phlysac what happened to 24/7 basketball? Do you mean to tell me all the fluff pieces that come out in the media painting young, successful, and wealthy athletes in a positive light where they could possibly do no wrong aren't the end-all-be-all of someone's personal life? You mean Kevin Durant isn't just going to little kids homes and playing video games with them? He's actually out poppin bottles in the club...in public? WTF....

The Repeater said this after the pictures you posted. That was after he responded to the initial 24/7 basketball comment and said Durant lives in Oklahoma (insinuating there is no trouble / nightlife in Oklahoma). The 24/7 comment was certainly taken the wrong way. By both you and your little follower. None of this is relevant.

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I would like it if there were more successful black Quarterbacks in the NFL...

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Tahj Boyd has the best fundamentals of any QB in this class, I think his game translates great to the NFL.

Aldon Smith being arrested for DUI is terrible. He should be ashamed. There is ZERO justification. Aside from that what did Smith do besides be a victim of violence? He was stabbed at a party. I pray that Kevin Durant, or any other person for that matter, who parties doesn't get stabbed or worse. But Smith being stabbed doesn't mean, in any sense, that he is at fault. It could be proven he was, but assuming one way or the other would be accepting all pretense.

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Originally Posted by BigBanger

This topic is not about athletes having a personal life, drinking and partying. That is not relevant. It's not relevant to anything.

The initial post states the headline topic. I should assume that noone is ever allowed to expound upon that by giving their personal opinion on partying, in general? That opinion was stated. It was then responded to. Why is it only ridiculous for "biased" 49ers fans to continue discussing new opinions brought forth by the original headline?

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By both you and your little follower. None of this is relevant.

It's obviously relevant enough for you to bash an entire team's fanbase, as well as respond to nearly every opinion I've expressed.

It's reasonably clear that you simply disagree with everything I say, whether relevant, irrelevant, factual or fake. Once that happens, I can only digress.

EDIT: Sorry didn't see the comment you added in your edit. I was merely trying to help you previously if you are referring to my comment in asking you "why can't you just leave" in terms of "49ers fans always seem to get bothered by something".

Aldon Smith being arrested for DUI is terrible. He should be ashamed. There is ZERO justification. Aside from that what did Smith do besides be a victim of violence?

Are you being thick? Aldon a victim? HE threw a party at HIS house. People HE invited FOUGHT, then pulled KNIVES, then STABBED people, which caused other people to draw their GUNS and start SHOOTING people. ALDON was directly in the middle of it. So much so, that HE was stabbed during the fight. HE wants to have villains, or whatever they call themselves, at HIS house. If HE wants to party with over 100 people who flash gang signs, get drunk (I'm sure no one brought any drugs) and fight, then that's violence HE is welcoming in HIS home. That's not a victim. You want to surround yourself with animals, then you should expect animals to act like ... animals.

I don't know who said he was "breaking up a fight", but from what I can tell that probably didn't actually happen. Was this Aldon who said that? Someone on his behalf? A PR person for the 49ers?

As far as I've discovered, the party goers weren't talking to the cops immediately after it happened. They shoot each other, but they have "ethics" ... like not talking to the cops, and not snitching on the people who just tried to kill them. Great group of people to surround yourself with. That's real nice. Sometimes people have things done to them that was provoked or brought on by their own actions / negligence. I'll give you a couple of examples.

Example #1: Gang banger #1 makes a hit on an opposite gang. Opposite gang retaliates and shoots someone from gang banger 1s gang, we'll call him gang banger #2. Even though gang banger #2 didn't try to kill gangster from opposite gang (no direct involvement), he is not a victim for being shot. He's not a murder victim. He wears his colors, tats, walks his turf and should expect such actions and such consequences. He invites it. If he dies, it's of natural causes. Natural for him anyway. If that's the life you want to live, then you should expect the very real possibility that something like that is going to happen. You open the door for someone to shoot you, then someone will.

Example #2: A 15 year old girl gets herself wasted. She texts little 20 year old Johnny hot-and-bothered to come over while mom's at work. Johnny does. He bangs the 15 year old drunk while she's barely conscious. When she sobers up though (and/or when mommy finds out) she wants to take it back. She wants to cry rape. Well, not really much of a rape victim now is she? No, just a stupid, naive, dumb ***** who had it coming. If you wanna be a little ***** and invite horned up boys over to your house, drunk or no ******* drunk, then you should expect the very real possibility that something like that is going to happen. You open the door for someone to "rape" you, then someone will.

Example #3: Young girl is walking home from work at 3:00 am. Two males, much larger and not cowardly at all, attack her from behind, beat her, punch her, kick her and simply break her face. Once beaten take her money, cell phone and anything else available on her person. They leave her laying on pavement with her broken face. Completely random, complete strangers. Now is that a victim? Did she invite this attack? By walking the streets at 3 am? I don't think so. Now I would call that a victim.

I don't think Aldon really fits in with the girl from example #3.

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Originally Posted by phlysac

He was stabbed at a party. I pray that Kevin Durant, or any other person for that matter, who parties doesn't get stabbed or worse. But Smith being stabbed doesn't mean, in any sense, that he is at fault. It could be proven he was, but assuming one way or the other would be accepting all pretense.

I think you can drop Kevin Durant. Gotta keep bringing him don't ya? Most people who party don't get stabbed. If you party with people who feel the need to carry knives + guns to the parties that they go to, then, yeah, you can worry about getting stabbed and/or shot.

Aldon is at fault. Not taking any responsibility for this will only make things worse. It will be like his DUI. He wont learn anything from it and something will happen again. He can grow up now. He can learn how to handle stardom. He can learn how to keep himself from getting jammed up. I don't care about the DUI at all. It happens. Whatever. But learn from it. Figure it out.

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Originally Posted by phlysac

The initial post states the headline topic. I should assume that noone is ever allowed to expound upon that by giving their personal opinion on partying, in general? That opinion was stated. It was then responded to. Why is it only ridiculous for "biased" 49ers fans to continue discussing new opinions brought forth by the original headline?

You can certainly expound upon anything. You can go as far off topic as you'd like. But when you start comparing Kevin Durant to Aldon Smith, then people might say something about how you shouldn't bother going there. Don't be surprised when that happens, or act like those weren't your intentions.

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Originally Posted by phlysac

It's obviously relevant enough for you to bash an entire team's fanbase, as well as respond to nearly every opinion I've expressed.

I like the 49ers. You being biased has nothing to do with their fanbase. Unless ... you are the fanbase? Are you claiming to be the fanbase?

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I would like it if there were more successful black Quarterbacks in the NFL...

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iamcandian lives in a cabin in the Yukon Territory and writes letters to railroad barons about the price of hard tack.

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I could possibly see Matthew Stafford Dropping out of the 1st round

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Originally Posted by GoRavens

Tahj Boyd has the best fundamentals of any QB in this class, I think his game translates great to the NFL.

Are you being thick? Aldon a victim? HE threw a party at HIS house. People HE invited FOUGHT, then pulled KNIVES, then STABBED people, which caused other people to draw their GUNS and start SHOOTING people. ALDON was directly in the middle of it. So much so, that HE was stabbed during the fight. HE wants to have villains, or whatever they call themselves, at HIS house. If HE wants to party with over 100 people who flash gang signs, get drunk (I'm sure no one brought any drugs) and fight, then that's violence HE is welcoming in HIS home. That's not a victim. You want to surround yourself with animals, then you should expect animals to act like ... animals.

I don't know who said he was "breaking up a fight", but from what I can tell that probably didn't actually happen. Was this Aldon who said that? Someone on his behalf? A PR person for the 49ers?

As far as I've discovered, the party goers weren't talking to the cops immediately after it happened. They shoot each other, but they have "ethics" ... like not talking to the cops, and not snitching on the people who just tried to kill them. Great group of people to surround yourself with. That's real nice. Sometimes people have things done to them that was provoked or brought on by their own actions / negligence. I'll give you a couple of examples.

Example #1: Gang banger #1 makes a hit on an opposite gang. Opposite gang retaliates and shoots someone from gang banger 1s gang, we'll call him gang banger #2. Even though gang banger #2 didn't try to kill gangster from opposite gang (no direct involvement), he is not a victim for being shot. He's not a murder victim. He wears his colors, tats, walks his turf and should expect such actions and such consequences. He invites it. If he dies, it's of natural causes. Natural for him anyway. If that's the life you want to live, then you should expect the very real possibility that something like that is going to happen. You open the door for someone to shoot you, then someone will.

Example #2: A 15 year old girl gets herself wasted. She texts little 20 year old Johnny hot-and-bothered to come over while mom's at work. Johnny does. He bangs the 15 year old drunk while she's barely conscious. When she sobers up though (and/or when mommy finds out) she wants to take it back. She wants to cry rape. Well, not really much of a rape victim now is she? No, just a stupid, naive, dumb ***** who had it coming. If you wanna be a little ***** and invite horned up boys over to your house, drunk or no ******* drunk, then you should expect the very real possibility that something like that is going to happen. You open the door for someone to "rape" you, then someone will.

Example #3: Young girl is walking home from work at 3:00 am. Two males, much larger and not cowardly at all, attack her from behind, beat her, punch her, kick her and simply break her face. Once beaten take her money, cell phone and anything else available on her person. They leave her laying on pavement with her broken face. Completely random, complete strangers. Now is that a victim? Did she invite this attack? By walking the streets at 3 am? I don't think so. Now I would call that a victim.

I don't think Aldon really fits in with the girl from example #3.

I think you can drop Kevin Durant. Gotta keep bringing him don't ya? Most people who party don't get stabbed. If you party with people who feel the need to carry knives + guns to the parties that they go to, then, yeah, you can worry about getting stabbed and/or shot.

Aldon is at fault. Not taking any responsibility for this will only make things worse. It will be like his DUI. He wont learn anything from it and something will happen again. He can grow up now. He can learn how to handle stardom. He can learn how to keep getting himself jammed up. I don't care about the DUI at all. It happens. Whatever. But learn from it. Figure it out.

You can certainly expound upon anything. You can go as far off topic as you'd like. But when you start comparing Kevin Durant to Aldon Smith, then people might say something about how shouldn't bother going there. Don't be surprised when that happens or act like those weren't your intentions.

I like the 49ers. You being biased has nothing to do with their fanbase. Unless ... you're the fanbase? Are you claiming to be the fanbase?