Re: Stream of Consciousness

I agree and disagree with everything you say. It s all right and it s all wrong. I have ego, yes. So? I could have detailed the dream so that maybe she would

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, Feb 1, 2003

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I agree and disagree with everything you say. It's all right and
it's all wrong. I have ego, yes. So?

I could have detailed the dream so that maybe she would have been
able to interpret it better as the house is one I actually do own in
real life and unlike others I own or have owned, it gets bad renters
even thought it's a nice place to live. Obviously, this has made me
very careful when it comes to choosing who and what come in it. And,
yes, the junk the sparkly squatters tried to move does represent the
torrents of words that G and those like her use to try and move in
on a person's mental space.

The dream is basically a "JUST SAY NO" dream which came as a direct
question to myself as to whether G and some others were genuine
helpers. The answer was no, they're not. They are bright people but
they have too many issues of their own to help. In time and over
many years, I have found that when I fail to listen to these answers
from within, I have been sorry EVERY single time. When I listen, I
am SOOO glad I did.

> Dear Dragonpuffs,
>
> Nice name by the way, your Mom made a wonderful choice in naming

you

> that, it truly is a unique and wonderful name. There is nothing

wrong

> with following your own intuition and inner voice, but there is

also

> nothing wrong with listening to a Guru and following that voice
> either. Ganga never told you to stop listening to your inner

voice,

> this is just your ego reacting and filtering the message to your

own

> egos liking, justifying what it wants to hear. You are not open,
> listening to anything Ganga is telling you, your ego is too big

and

> too in the way. And then there is the childish act of name calling
> and putting down. That is very mature and spiritual. That really
> shows that you are wiser than the guru. The Guru does not resort

to

> name calling or childish acts like that. The guru is unmoved by

all

> of this, doesn't respond from ego, while ones like you and me, the
> seekers with big egos react, resort to vulgarity, name calling,
> sarcasm, etc. Until the ego is dissolved you cannot see clearly

and

> the ego is constantly in center stage. Unfortunately, that is what

is

> happening in your case. And your ego is very excited when others

on

> this site validate your beliefs and support your egos

justifications.

> It is so sad to watch, to see truth turned down and ego fantasies

to

> be believed in. If only you had some distance and time, you would

see

> what is spoken here. The interaction you had with Ganga has never
> been negative on her own nor has she ever forced anything onto

you,

> she is just trying to help you, to help you break free from your

own

> self-created illusions. May you find truth and the freedom which

you

> are seeking. Love Steve
>
> --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, dragonpuffs7777
> <no_reply@y...> wrote:
>
> > <you might do better to stick with my interpretation it really
> > paints
>
> > > you in a much better light than what you are saying right now--

> > > > interpretation is the true meaning as it comes from me to me.
>
> > > IT's about how I am percieving many of the members of this
> > > group (not all,) and in this group specifically rather than in
>
> the
>
> > 3-d
>
> > > > world or in other groups, and that's why I put it here. You

and

>
> > > they look like fundamentalist nothingists. It is a dream

about

> > > what part of me I'd choose to steer clear of. But, of

course, I

> > > didn't steer clear, and that means I want to confront people
>
> like
>
> > > you because something in me started to gell and be automatic,
> > > which is the way you are to me, so I can get you out of my
> > > system and move on.
> > >
> > >
> > > G: did you ever stop to think you may not be real objective
>
> about
>
> > > it? of course you are going to interpret it in your best
>
> > light...
>
> > >
> > > ah.... i have never been "in" your system... the only one in
>
> > there
>
> > > is you.... if i'm in there and if it is your perception of
>
> > people in
>
> > > this group then my dear that is even a sadder commentary on it
> > > than before.... everyone is trying to rip you off... and
>
> > seeking
>
> > > your approval ? sneaking into your place and squatting

there....

> > > oh my dear.... and your so cramped that you can't move....
> > >
> > > you might do better to stick with my interpretation it really
>
> > paints
>
> > > you in a much better light than what you are saying right

now.....

> > >
> > > what you end up doing is simply confronting yourself, if

there

>
> is
>
> > > a need to *confront* anything.... so which is it - is it

> I agree and disagree with everything you say. It's all right and
> it's all wrong. I have ego, yes. So?
>
> I could have detailed the dream so that maybe she would have

been able to interpret it better as the house is one I actually do
own in real life and unlike others I own or have owned, it gets
bad renters even thought it's a nice place to live. Obviously, this
has made me very careful when it comes to choosing who and
what come in it. And, yes, the junk the sparkly squatters tried to
move does represent the torrents of words that G and those like
her use to try and move in on a person's mental space.

>
> The dream is basically a "JUST SAY NO" dream which came

as a direct question to myself as to whether G and some others
were genuine helpers. The answer was no, they're not. They are
bright people but they have too many issues of their own to help.
In time and over many years, I have found that when I fail to
listen to these answers from within, I have been sorry EVERY
single time. When I listen, I am SOOO glad I did.

>
> Intuition is a wonderful thing.

G: no one can enter your mental space if you don't invite them
in..... no matter what anyone says you don't need to accept
it nor need you hold it ....... a mind that is free clings to no
thought....

shanti om ..g...

dragonpuffs7777

Message 3 of 9
, Feb 1, 2003

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<G: no one can enter your mental space if you don't invite them
in..... no matter what anyone says you don't need to accept
it nor need you hold it ....... a mind that is free clings to no
thought....>

True, they got evicted in a hurry. It wasn't about the issue of them
maybe being able to stay. It was about their motives in trying, you
see? And whether or not I should invite them.

> --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
> dragonpuffs7777 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > I agree and disagree with everything you say. It's all right and
> > it's all wrong. I have ego, yes. So?
> >
> > I could have detailed the dream so that maybe she would have
> been able to interpret it better as the house is one I actually

do

> own in real life and unlike others I own or have owned, it gets
> bad renters even thought it's a nice place to live. Obviously,

this

> has made me very careful when it comes to choosing who and
> what come in it. And, yes, the junk the sparkly squatters tried

to

> move does represent the torrents of words that G and those like
> her use to try and move in on a person's mental space.
> >
> > The dream is basically a "JUST SAY NO" dream which came
> as a direct question to myself as to whether G and some others
> were genuine helpers. The answer was no, they're not. They are
> bright people but they have too many issues of their own to help.
> In time and over many years, I have found that when I fail to
> listen to these answers from within, I have been sorry EVERY
> single time. When I listen, I am SOOO glad I did.
> >
> > Intuition is a wonderful thing.
>
>
> G: no one can enter your mental space if you don't invite them
> in..... no matter what anyone says you don't need to accept
> it nor need you hold it ....... a mind that is free clings

to no

> thought....
>
> shanti om ..g...

G <crystalkundalini@hotmail.com>

... them maybe being able to stay. It was about their motives in trying, you see? And whether or not I should invite them. G: you might be reading motives

> <G: no one can enter your mental space if you don't invite them
> in..... no matter what anyone says you don't need to accept
> it nor need you hold it ....... a mind that is free clings to no
> thought....>

> True, they got evicted in a hurry. It wasn't about the issue of

them maybe being able to stay. It was about their motives in
trying, you see? And whether or not I should invite them.

G: you might be reading motives into the picture which are not
there are all.... .. can you really say what anyone elses
motives are other than your own?

shanti om ...g...

dragonpuffs7777

No,

Message 5 of 9
, Feb 2, 2003

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<G: you might be reading motives into the picture which are not
there are all.... .. can you really say what anyone elses
motives are other than your own?>

No, but the dreams have had a 100% accuracy rate so far in the last
18 years because they are explained as they happen. If I tried to do
it on a conscious level, I would surely color the interpretation
with my own predudices, that's why I put the question to my
sunconscious.

> --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
> dragonpuffs7777 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > <G: no one can enter your mental space if you don't invite them
> > in..... no matter what anyone says you don't need to accept
> > it nor need you hold it ....... a mind that is free clings to no
> > thought....>
>
> > True, they got evicted in a hurry. It wasn't about the issue of
> them maybe being able to stay. It was about their motives in
> trying, you see? And whether or not I should invite them.
>
> G: you might be reading motives into the picture which are not
> there are all.... .. can you really say what anyone elses
> motives are other than your own?
>
> shanti om ...g...

G <crystalkundalini@hotmail.com>

... the last 18 years because they are explained as they happen. If I tried to do it on a conscious level, I would surely color the interpretation with my

> <G: you might be reading motives into the picture which are not
> there are all.... .. can you really say what anyone elses
> motives are other than your own?>
>
> No, but the dreams have had a 100% accuracy rate so far in

the last 18 years because they are explained as they happen. If I
tried to do it on a conscious level, I would surely color the
interpretation with my own predudices, that's why I put the
question to my sunconscious.

G: isn't it possible that all thought might be colored by your
perceptions and conditionings? that whether dream or not that
the same valuation holds true..? (after all it is still the creation of
mind and nothing more) is not the subconscious simply the
conscious that has gone underground for a time - so to speak ?
that which you are not willing to look at point blank may descend
into unconscious or sub conscious symbology?

why do you suppose that the subconscious will be any more
valid than the conscious? i don't see that one is more advanced
than the other just simply a different venue.... one is a bit more
free association that is all.....

just a thought.....

shanti om ..g..

dragonpuffs7777

Didn t say it had to be, said it has a 100% success rate over 18 years.

Message 7 of 9
, Feb 2, 2003

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<why do you suppose that the subconscious will be any more
valid than the conscious?>

Didn't say it had to be, said it has a 100% success rate over 18
years. My conscious mind isn't as accurate although it tends to get
better over time.

> --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
> dragonpuffs7777 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > <G: you might be reading motives into the picture which are not
> > there are all.... .. can you really say what anyone elses
> > motives are other than your own?>
> >
> > No, but the dreams have had a 100% accuracy rate so far in
> the last 18 years because they are explained as they happen. If I
> tried to do it on a conscious level, I would surely color the
> interpretation with my own predudices, that's why I put the
> question to my sunconscious.
>
> G: isn't it possible that all thought might be colored by your
> perceptions and conditionings? that whether dream or not that
> the same valuation holds true..? (after all it is still the

creation of

> mind and nothing more) is not the subconscious simply the
> conscious that has gone underground for a time - so to speak ?
> that which you are not willing to look at point blank may descend
> into unconscious or sub conscious symbology?
>
> why do you suppose that the subconscious will be any more
> valid than the conscious? i don't see that one is more advanced
> than the other just simply a different venue.... one is a bit

> <why do you suppose that the subconscious will be any more
> valid than the conscious?>
>
> Didn't say it had to be, said it has a 100% success rate over 18
> years. My conscious mind isn't as accurate although it tends to

get better over time.

G: if you say it works for you then i won't debate the point....

shanti om ..g..

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