I appear to have more in common with Wolffolk and not much in common with MKK bearing in mind he considers himself to be a National Socialist.

I could NEVER go that far because so many of my own family made the sacrifice fighting the Nazi's.

Split between both word wars 4 were killed in WW2 and 7 in WW1. Mostly serving with The Buffs (East Kent Regiment).

My Great Grandfather fought in the Boer War (1899-1901). He served as a Private in Mounted Infantry Company, 2nd battalion,The Buffs (East Kent Regiment). His medals have a number of clasps - Driefontien, Paardeberg, Relief of Kimberley, Transvaal and Orange Free State. During WW1 he was a Sergeant and served all over Europe and in WW2 was a CSM in the Home Guard.

I could never harm or threaten innocent law abiding decent people just because they happen to look different to me or have another religion. To me that's just plain WRONG and I want nothing to do with people who hold such inhuman barbaric views.

My mission is to save the Union (GB & NI) and get rid of this rotten voting system we have together with all the rotten useless anti-British traitors who have ruined our country since WW2.

All that piffle about your g/grandad, so what? We can all go back and chronicle our family heroes.

Where do you get this idea about us threatening or harming folk who look different to us, etc? Have you read anywhere on this forum that this is what we advocate?

Then as far as I am concerned we can do quite well without you here....

This.

There are many people on this site who are somewhat or very attached to the ideology of Nazism. You, Woffolk, don't have to be. Not everyone on this site is. But by saying you don't want anything to do with people who do like it is alienating a massive amount of people, including me.

And I see you and Kent are Holo-believers? Oh please.

And Kent,

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I could NEVER go that far because so many of my own family made the sacrifice fighting the Nazi's.

Split between both word wars 4 were killed in WW2 and 7 in WW1.

"Split between"? The Nazis didn't exist back then in WW1, you know that right?

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I could never harm or threaten innocent law abiding decent people just because they happen to look different to me or have another religion. To me that's just plain WRONG and I want nothing to do with people who hold such inhuman barbaric views.

I am not pacifist but I prefer non-violent solutions.

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I too believe that what the Nazis did to innocent Jews (men,women,children and babies) was just plain evil. I reject NS entirely.

Read up about Holocaust revisionism then. None of it's true.

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I said it once, I'll say it again - I wonder just how many of the Nazi's out there have criminal convictions for violence, theft and drugs? In other words I'm suggesting they have a propensity for this kind of inhuman behavior

Is this some kind of insult? Open a thread elsewhere and our pro-Nazi users can answer for you.

If anyone asks me for an explanation of why Nationalism has not only failed, but is positively reviled by the majority of white people in Britain, then all I will need to do is refer them to this thread, and in particular to the comments from our resident Nazis. This is why I fear that, in ten years, most of us who are still Nationalists will most likely still be tapping away at our keyboards, posting to sites like this, instead of actually influencing what goes on in our country.

One of the historic mistakes of Nationalism in Britain was the decision in February 1967 by the founders of the National Front to allow the admission of individual National Socialists. The involvement of Nazis has sullied the name of Nationalism by association and has retarded the Movement, resulting in the present sorry state of affairs in which, despite widespread anger at the way this country is governed, there is still no effective political opposition to the multi-cultural consensus.

What is worse is that we still have people within Nationalism who harbour these fetishes for Hitler and for Nazism generally. We have Nazi chic in the form of everything from tattoos to T-shirts. None of it does Nationalism any good.

The fact some of you cannot see this is very, very sad and explains a great deal about why we are where we are.

I believe in the political aspiration of a white Britain. That makes me a Nationalist, but it does not make me a National Socialist. I have already explained on a different thread why Holocaust denial in its most extreme form - i.e. absolute existential denial - is misconceived. Hitler, had he survived, would have admitted the Holocaust and he would have hung for it, gladly. Hitler's entire perspective was predicated on an irrational hatred of Jews, combined with a viscous, calculated political attack on them as surrogates for the Weimar Republic's ruling elite. Don't misunderstand me - I never said I like Jews. I don't need to. The facts speak for themselves, and whether you like Jews or not does not speak to the facts.

National Socialism is part of Europe's past. It was a historical oddity, a product of its time, a consequence of extreme rationalist Enlightenment thought. The men who understood it and advocated it are dead. Those who have tragically inherited that intellectual legacy and naively claim Hitler's mantle are retarding the progress of Nationalism.

Again, so I am not misunderstood, I am not suggesting that everything said or advocated by National Socialists - including Hitler and other leaders - was wrong, misconceived or untrue. I accept it may be that there are fundamental biological differences between races and it could be that these differences are reflected in mean attributes, but this is not the same as advocating cruel and inhumane policies. The dignity of all human life is, for me, a precious notion. Each human being is of innate worth and not to be sacrificed on the altar of naive and misguided reductionism. That is the way to a very nasty Brave New World - and I want no part of it, neither for myself, nor for my children, nor their children.

Nazism was predicated on a late 19th. century Social Darwinist perspective that history is comprised of racial conflict and that racial supremacy is a necessary element of civilisation. These ideas are immoral and will never stand to the credit of a Nationalist movement. We now need to initiate the process of deNazification that should have happened in 1967. The Movement needs to be cleansed of this, so that we can move on. That is my view, as someone relatively new to Nationalism, but it is based on my honest observations.

If anyone asks me for an explanation of why Nationalism has not only failed, but is positively reviled by the majority of white people in Britain, then all I will need to do is refer them to this thread, and in particular to the comments from our resident Nazis. This is why I fear that, in ten years, most of us who are still Nationalists will most likely still be tapping away at our keyboards, posting to sites like this, instead of actually influencing what goes on in our country.

One of the historic mistakes of Nationalism in Britain was the decision in February 1967 by the founders of the National Front to allow the admission of individual National Socialists. The involvement of Nazis has sullied the name of Nationalism by association and has retarded the Movement, resulting in the present sorry state of affairs in which, despite widespread anger at the way this country is governed, there is still no effective political opposition to the multi-cultural consensus.

What is worse is that we still have people within Nationalism who harbour these fetishes for Hitler and for Nazism generally. We have Nazi chic in the form of everything from tattoos to T-shirts. None of it does Nationalism any good.

The fact some of you cannot see this is very, very sad and explains a great deal about why we are where we are.

I believe in the political aspiration of a white Britain. That makes me a Nationalist, but it does not make me a National Socialist. I have already explained on a different thread why Holocaust denial in its most extreme form - i.e. absolute existential denial - is misconceived. Hitler, had he survived, would have admitted the Holocaust and he would have hung for it, gladly. Hitler's entire perspective was predicated on an irrational hatred of Jews, combined with a viscous, calculated political attack on them as surrogates for the Weimar Republic's ruling elite. Don't misunderstand me - I never said I like Jews. I don't need to. The facts speak for themselves, and whether you like Jews or not does not speak to the facts.

National Socialism is part of Europe's past. It was a historical oddity, a product of its time, a consequence of extreme rationalist Enlightenment thought. The men who understood it and advocated it are dead. Those who have tragically inherited that intellectual legacy and naively claim Hitler's mantle are retarding the progress of Nationalism.

Again, so I am not misunderstood, I am not suggesting that everything said or advocated by National Socialists - including Hitler and other leaders - was wrong, misconceived or untrue. I accept it may be that there are fundamental biological differences between races and it could be that these differences are reflected in mean attributes, but this is not the same as advocating cruel and inhumane policies. The dignity of all human life is, for me, a precious notion. Each human being is of innate worth and not to be sacrificed on the altar of naive and misguided reductionism. That is the way to a very nasty Brave New World - and I want no part of it, neither for myself, nor for my children, nor their children.

Nazism was predicated on a late 19th. century Social Darwinist perspective that history is comprised of racial conflict and that racial supremacy is a necessary element of civilisation. These ideas are immoral and will never stand to the credit of a Nationalist movement. We now need to initiate the process of deNazification that should have happened in 1967. The Movement needs to be cleansed of this, so that we can move on. That is my view, as someone relatively new to Nationalism, but it is based on my honest observations.

You do write some funny things! Thanks, Wolffolk, I've had a very tedious day.

You do write some funny things! Thanks, Wolffolk, I've had a very tedious day.

Then there is no future for us. If what I write seems funny to you and others on here, then the white race is finished. National Socialism is a dead philosophy. Your selfish advocacy of Nazism and Hitlerism acts as a block against mainstream acceptance of our ideas. If you can't see that, then we may as well give up now, because this Movement is going nowhere.

Do theses patriots look like thugs , criminals or whatever nasties KD and WF imagin.
There were National Socialists present on the march , all well behaved and disciplined as was every patriot present.

Actually, I don't imagine National Socialists as 'thugs, criminals..etc." at all. Though I would add that I am not sure what White Survivalist thinks a 'criminal' looks like - perhaps he could tell us, once he's stopped masturbating over the Daily Mail.

My image of a National Socialist is of someone who looks much more like a university professor, journalist or professional man of some kind. It is these people - the intellectuals in society - who are the first to try on the jackboots. It is the intellectuals who usher in the authoritarians and defend the greatest outrages against human decency. The thugs are just tools, to be used by either side.

As for your picture, I don't doubt there are National Socialists within the National Front. As a new member previously of the Left, I can look at this situation with a fresh pair of eyes, and I can offer you a valuable perspective. I just wish you'd listen.

It is clear to me what needs to happen. Nationalism needs to throw-off the baggage of Nazism and Hitlerism. We need an open process of deNazification and deHitlerisation. The Nazis and the Hitlerites need to leave. The 14/88, the Swastikas, the tattoos, the clever-dick T-shirts, the obsession with Nazis....it all needs to go.

Now, what I expect is that none of you will engage with my arguments. What you will all do is post more of your juvenile, smarmy remarks, more of your silly emoticons, like this one: - which seems to be a Stormfront favourite among the resident, unthinking smart arses. There will be some emotional blackmail and other nonsense. What you will not do is come up with any rational argument that disproves or discounts what I am saying.

The truth is that Nationalism has nothing to do with gas chambers, Jews, Swastikas (a Hindu symbol in any case!), strange Germans, an Austrian vegetarian with a funny moustache, or weird pagan symbolism. The longer you lot keep this up and the longer you engage in this fantasy, the harder it becomes to make the case that we need to make.

Actually, I don't imagine National Socialists as 'thugs, criminals..etc." at all. Though I would add that I am not sure what White Survivalist thinks a 'criminal' looks like - perhaps he could tell us, once he's stopped masturbating over the Daily Mail.

My image of a National Socialist is of someone who looks much more like a university professor, journalist or professional man of some kind. It is these people - the intellectuals in society - who are the first to try on the jackboots. It is the intellectuals who usher in the authoritarians and defend the greatest outrages against human decency. The thugs are just tools, to be used by either side.

As for your picture, I don't doubt there are National Socialists within the National Front. As a new member previously of the Left, I can look at this situation with a fresh pair of eyes, and I can offer you a valuable perspective. I just wish you'd listen.

It is clear to me what needs to happen. Nationalism needs to throw-off the baggage of Nazism and Hitlerism. We need an open process of deNazification and deHitlerisation. The Nazis and the Hitlerites need to leave. The 14/88, the Swastikas, the tattoos, the clever-dick T-shirts, the obsession with Nazis....it all needs to go.

Now, what I expect is that none of you will engage with my arguments. What you will all do is post more of your juvenile, smarmy remarks, more of your silly emoticons, like this one: - which seems to be a Stormfront favourite among the resident, unthinking smart arses. There will be some emotional blackmail and other nonsense. What you will not do is come up with any rational argument that disproves or discounts what I am saying.

The truth is that Nationalism has nothing to do with gas chambers, Jews, Swastikas (a Hindu symbol in any case!), strange Germans, an Austrian vegetarian with a funny moustache, or weird pagan symbolism. The longer you lot keep this up, the longer you engage in this fantasy, the harder it becomes to make the case that we need to make.

You sure you shouldnt be back with the filth on the red sites ?
I have met many in Nationalist circles from various backgrounds and with various ideals and 99% take everyone as a comrade whatever path they choose to take.
Then theres the muppets like you slagging folk off .You cry for change but conviently forget who is actually out on the street leafletting , providing security and when needed confronting the oppersition when you sit on your ivory throne typing bollocks.
Oh yes dickhead i havnt bought a newspaper in years and have a good women for my jollies.
You appear more a troll with every post.

KD i had a great uncle who charged the German trenches on horseback in WW1 and fought the japs on Burma in WW2 and clearly remember him telling me we had fought on the wrong side as did my grandfather say the same.