How many must die on a failed policy? How many must die in "THEIR" civil war? Why are "OUR" troops still in Iraq?
How many more lies will our Government tell us the "Reasons" why we are there?
We can't secure OUR borders, How can we even think about securing "Their" borders?
Pray for the troops and their familys. VOTE or REVOLT We need change.

How many must die on a failed policy? How many must die in "THEIR" civil war? Why are "OUR" troops still in Iraq? How many more lies will our Government tell us the "Reasons" why we are there? We can't secure OUR borders, How can we even think about securing "Their" borders? Pray for the troops and their familys. VOTE or REVOLT We need change.

Well it does get old after a while. i dont like bush, and didn't vote for him but i will respect him for who he is and for the fact that he was voted in by the people.
Just today, i was thinking about the difference between the country's (ours and Iraq), and i wonder why it is that if they like there country and the way it was run, that there own people with no gun control dont fight us any more then they have. If another country invaded us, I'm sure there wouldn't be many men not willing to grab a gun and send them back where they came from. (justyforya excluded).

Well it does get old after a while. i dont like bush, and didn't vote for him but i will respect him for who he is and for the fact that he was voted in by the people. Just today, i was thinking about the difference between the country's (ours and Iraq), and i wonder why it is that if they like there country and the way it was run, that there own people with no gun control dont fight us any more then they have. If another country invaded us, I'm sure there wouldn't be many men not willing to grab a gun and send them back where they came from. (justyforya excluded).

"An Opcentre is a command facility for strategic communications.
.... These units of expertise combine to create one of the most
dynamic and influential 'weapons' in the world. An Opcentre puts
influence, control and power back into the hands of the government
and military, giving them greater power to influence the enemy in
time of conflict and enhanced access to their citizens during a
crisis. For instance, an Opcentre can be designed to override all
national radio and TV broadcasts, allowing the government and
military to communicate with the public as the need arises."
Yeah, wouldn't it be nifty if the tyrants of the world, with the
use of propaganda, could better push "behavioural compliance for
homeland security issues," and "influence group behavior"? And
we're not just talking about telling politicians how to get votes;
we're talking about methods which concentrate "on the behavioural
outcome of the communication."
I have only just started looking at the site of the company, which
is based out of England. And I have to take a break, or I'm going
to lose my mind. For those of you who want to get a disturbing dose
of reality--or for those who thought I was making all of this up--
behold:
scl.cc/home.php (or Google: Strategic Communications Laboratory)
And I hope no one here is stupid enough to think that "our"
"government"--the richest and most powerful in the history of the
world--hasn't been using such "services" for the last century at
least.
Sincerely,
[name redacted]
"Public sentiment is everything. With public sentiment nothing can fail. Without it nothing can succeed. He who molds public opinion is greater than he who enacts laws." President Abraham Lincoln - from SCL's website

"An Opcentre is a command facility for strategic communications. .... These units of expertise combine to create one of the most dynamic and influential 'weapons' in the world. An Opcentre puts influence, control and power back into the hands of the government and military, giving them greater power to influence the enemy in time of conflict and enhanced access to their citizens during a crisis. For instance, an Opcentre can be designed to override all national radio and TV broadcasts, allowing the government and military to communicate with the public as the need arises." Yeah, wouldn't it be nifty if the tyrants of the world, with the use of propaganda, could better push "behavioural compliance for homeland security issues," and "influence group behavior"? And we're not just talking about telling politicians how to get votes; we're talking about methods which concentrate "on the behavioural outcome of the communication." I have only just started looking at the site of the company, which is based out of England. And I have to take a break, or I'm going to lose my mind. For those of you who want to get a disturbing dose of reality--or for those who thought I was making all of this up-- behold: scl.cc/home.php (or Google: Strategic Communications Laboratory) And I hope no one here is stupid enough to think that "our" "government"--the richest and most powerful in the history of the world--hasn't been using such "services" for the last century at least. Sincerely, [name redacted] "Public sentiment is everything. With public sentiment nothing can fail. Without it nothing can succeed. He who molds public opinion is greater than he who enacts laws." President Abraham Lincoln - from SCL's website

From the author of a certain book:
(parts deleted due to space)
Dear Fellow Peasant,
I find it both helpful, and really creepy, when tyrants don't even
hide their methods of control and oppression. Someone just drew my
attention to a truly stunning example. If the following doesn't
make your skin crawl, you deserve to be enslaved.
Those of you who have read my book, "How To Be a Successful
Tyrant," know that it focuses heavily on propaganda,particularly in Chapter 3, "Controlling Thought," and Chapter 5,"Spreading the Lie." For several hundred years now (at least), every government worth its salt has known that thought control is by far the most powerful weapon a tyrant can have.
Amazingly, there is now an outfit that openly offers its services
to governments the world over, saying that what it offers-methods
of THOUGHT CONTROL via propaganda--is the most powerful weapon a government can have. The number of admissions the company makes is amazing.
They openly speak, for example, not only of using "a powerful psyop [psychological operations] campaign against an engaged enemy" but controlling the thought of the citizenry, to "engender support
within the national community for proposed military action." Wow, a
war-mongers dream come true! And of course, the same principles--
the same "services," as the company calls them--could and would be used to crush any internal rebellions within any countries utilizing those "services" as well.
"The military conflicts of the 21st Century will not be fought on
the ground, in the sea or in the air; they will be fought in the
minds of our adversaries and allies."
No, that's not a quote from my book. It's from the company's web
site. But they can't really be openly talking about thought control via propaganda, can they?
"What if there was a way to control civilian behaviour when it
counts?"
I wish I was ...

From the author of a certain book: (parts deleted due to space) Dear Fellow Peasant, I find it both helpful, and really creepy, when tyrants don't even hide their methods of control and oppression. Someone just drew my attention to a truly stunning example. If the following doesn't make your skin crawl, you deserve to be enslaved. Those of you who have read my book, "How To Be a Successful Tyrant," know that it focuses heavily on propaganda,particularly in Chapter 3, "Controlling Thought," and Chapter 5,"Spreading the Lie." For several hundred years now (at least), every government worth its salt has known that thought control is by far the most powerful weapon a tyrant can have. Amazingly, there is now an outfit that openly offers its services to governments the world over, saying that what it offers-methods of THOUGHT CONTROL via propaganda--is the most powerful weapon a government can have. The number of admissions the company makes is amazing. They openly speak, for example, not only of using "a powerful psyop [psychological operations] campaign against an engaged enemy" but controlling the thought of the citizenry, to "engender support within the national community for proposed military action." Wow, a war-mongers dream come true! And of course, the same principles-- the same "services," as the company calls them--could and would be used to crush any internal rebellions within any countries utilizing those "services" as well. "The military conflicts of the 21st Century will not be fought on the ground, in the sea or in the air; they will be fought in the minds of our adversaries and allies." No, that's not a quote from my book. It's from the company's web site. But they can't really be openly talking about thought control via propaganda, can they? "What if there was a way to control civilian behaviour when it counts?" I wish I was ...

In these United States, a person has the right to say pretty much what they want to. But just because one has the right to speak, does not mean they also have the right to be listened to. That is a priviledge to be earned. If you're going to speak,you'd best to have something of substance to say, or no one will listen.This is a concept lost on most ranters, proselyters,and salesmen.
The world is not peopled by "Chicken Little" who will run around screaming the sky is falling !whenever they see, or hear a new Rant. Such people are in truth, few, and far between. So "No Thanks" Ranters, try to peddle your negative spew somwhere else, I have a brain, and make my own decisions just fine.

In these United States, a person has the right to say pretty much what they want to. But just because one has the right to speak, does not mean they also have the right to be listened to. That is a priviledge to be earned. If you're going to speak,you'd best to have something of substance to say, or no one will listen.This is a concept lost on most ranters, proselyters,and salesmen. The world is not peopled by "Chicken Little" who will run around screaming the sky is falling !whenever they see, or hear a new Rant. Such people are in truth, few, and far between. So "No Thanks" Ranters, try to peddle your negative spew somwhere else, I have a brain, and make my own decisions just fine.

Re: Well, they would probably only reproduce more documents to support their rantings. Ok, that was mean T. I can be brutal sometimes. Sorry.
RK20032000 write:
Re: Well first off intelligence and common sense are very different. If he had the latter he would realize this is not the venue for his approach. It is a dating site foremost and I can't imagine the kind of person that would find his plethora of verbal discharges attractive. Course they say there is somebody out there for everyone. God help us if they reproduce.
Treasure_TTT write:
Re: I know you both are right. I just see red when he starts with this hyperbole and this kiss ass of the terrorists. I know, click. Yes. I should. Help, I need a 12 step. Ok, no more. I promise I will ignore it from now on.
RK20032000 write:
Re: Xactly
JerseyAngel write:
Treasure...why do you even go there with him. It's like trying to reason with a 6 yr old.

Re: Well, they would probably only reproduce more documents to support their rantings. Ok, that was mean T. I can be brutal sometimes. Sorry. RK20032000 write: Re: Well first off intelligence and common sense are very different. If he had the latter he would realize this is not the venue for his approach. It is a dating site foremost and I can't imagine the kind of person that would find his plethora of verbal discharges attractive. Course they say there is somebody out there for everyone. God help us if they reproduce. Treasure_TTT write: Re: I know you both are right. I just see red when he starts with this hyperbole and this kiss ass of the terrorists. I know, click. Yes. I should. Help, I need a 12 step. Ok, no more. I promise I will ignore it from now on. RK20032000 write: Re: Xactly JerseyAngel write: Treasure...why do you even go there with him. It's like trying to reason with a 6 yr old.

Re: Well first off intelligence and common sense are very different. If he had the latter he would realize this is not the venue for his approach. It is a dating site foremost and I can't imagine the kind of person that would find his plethora of verbal discharges attractive. Course they say there is somebody out there for everyone. God help us if they reproduce.
Treasure_TTT write:
Re: I know you both are right. I just see red when he starts with this hyperbole and this kiss ass of the terrorists. I know, click. Yes. I should. Help, I need a 12 step. Ok, no more. I promise I will ignore it from now on.
RK20032000 write:
Re: Xactly
JerseyAngel write:
Treasure...why do you even go there with him. It's like trying to reason with a 6 yr old.

Re: Well first off intelligence and common sense are very different. If he had the latter he would realize this is not the venue for his approach. It is a dating site foremost and I can't imagine the kind of person that would find his plethora of verbal discharges attractive. Course they say there is somebody out there for everyone. God help us if they reproduce. Treasure_TTT write: Re: I know you both are right. I just see red when he starts with this hyperbole and this kiss ass of the terrorists. I know, click. Yes. I should. Help, I need a 12 step. Ok, no more. I promise I will ignore it from now on. RK20032000 write: Re: Xactly JerseyAngel write: Treasure...why do you even go there with him. It's like trying to reason with a 6 yr old.

Re: I know you both are right. I just see red when he starts with this hyperbole and this kiss ass of the terrorists. I know, click. Yes. I should. Help, I need a 12 step. Ok, no more. I promise I will ignore it from now on.
RK20032000 write:
Re: Xactly
JerseyAngel write:
Treasure...why do you even go there with him. It's like trying to reason with a 6 yr old.

Re: I know you both are right. I just see red when he starts with this hyperbole and this kiss ass of the terrorists. I know, click. Yes. I should. Help, I need a 12 step. Ok, no more. I promise I will ignore it from now on. RK20032000 write: Re: Xactly JerseyAngel write: Treasure...why do you even go there with him. It's like trying to reason with a 6 yr old.

justyforya write:
...I wasted too much time and space on this person's blog...
...I have more clues than you would ever know...

Justy, you finally wrote at least two things I can agree with - for the most part anyway:
1. You have definitely wasted too much space on this blog. As far as time, you appear to have WAY too much on your hands - but I'd agree if anyone took the time to read your long, rambling posts - that time was wasted. Most of the stuff you have regurgitated on this blog appears to have been copied & pasted from some loony left wing conspiracy blog. You do seem to have added a few of your original thoughts though - judging from the misspelled words and grammatical errors in your posts.
2. You're also dead on about the clue thing - if you have even ONE, I would never know.
Adios

justyforya write: ...I wasted too much time and space on this person's blog... ...I have more clues than you would ever know...

Justy, you finally wrote at least two things I can agree with - for the most part anyway: 1. You have definitely wasted too much space on this blog. As far as time, you appear to have WAY too much on your hands - but I'd agree if anyone took the time to read your long, rambling posts - that time was wasted. Most of the stuff you have regurgitated on this blog appears to have been copied & pasted from some loony left wing conspiracy blog. You do seem to have added a few of your original thoughts though - judging from the misspelled words and grammatical errors in your posts. 2. You're also dead on about the clue thing - if you have even ONE, I would never know. Adios

Ok, Justy, When a country attacks a US Embassy as ours was bombed during Clintons admin (I did vote for him) that traditionally is a declaration of war. He did NOTHING.
Do you ever read what you post??? You try to be so insulting simply because you are not agreed with. Good heavens. It is really sad.
Good bye Justy.

Ok, Justy, When a country attacks a US Embassy as ours was bombed during Clintons admin (I did vote for him) that traditionally is a declaration of war. He did NOTHING. Do you ever read what you post??? You try to be so insulting simply because you are not agreed with. Good heavens. It is really sad. Good bye Justy.

TTT,
Actually this will be my last entry on RDking's blog. I wasted too much time and space on this person's blog. If you state you are not obtuse then I would suggest you stop acting as such.

Treasure_TTT write:
The only thing I have to say about Clinton and Lewinsky is for an educated man and president of the U.S. his judgement was that of a high school sophomore. What that has to do with this I do not know.

Perhaps you need to think about things before you type. Yep, when a country illegally invades and occupies a sovereign nation based on a pack of lies, and the majority of the country just sit around and buy into the new and latest ever changing BS, while more and more innocent civilians and soldiers are being kill, that is my definition of evil. Let's see first it was mushroom clouds over a US city, Saddam's chem drones that could reach the east coast and Saddam seeking UR from Niger; and now a machine-gun is a WMD....
All my blog entries are still on-line and you can check, but I never called the soldiers who are in Iraq "war criminals and rapists" and I take great insult to your statement which implies that I made or will make such reference. The soldier's in Iraq are only following orders. Bush, Cheney, Rummy, and Rice are the war criminals!
I guess you are at the point to demonize the people that don't see it your way, and I have more clues than you would ever know and feel no requirement to share them. One last comment just for you - yeah, as the rest of America are having "fun and relaxing" there are soldiers in Iraq on their fourth and fifth tours and that little fact haunts me daily but, as you stated, that was their choice to join-up and I guess people like you see it that they need to lie in the bed that they made. I hope all your days are happy and fun.
Bye TTT

Treasure_TTT write: The only thing I have to say about Clinton and Lewinsky is for an educated man and president of the U.S. his judgement was that of a high school sophomore. What that has to do with this I do not know.

Perhaps you need to think about things before you type. Yep, when a country illegally invades and occupies a sovereign nation based on a pack of lies, and the majority of the country just sit around and buy into the new and latest ever changing BS, while more and more innocent civilians and soldiers are being kill, that is my definition of evil. Let's see first it was mushroom clouds over a US city, Saddam's chem drones that could reach the east coast and Saddam seeking UR from Niger; and now a machine-gun is a WMD.... All my blog entries are still on-line and you can check, but I never called the soldiers who are in Iraq "war criminals and rapists" and I take great insult to your statement which implies that I made or will make such reference. The soldier's in Iraq are only following orders. Bush, Cheney, Rummy, and Rice are the war criminals! I guess you are at the point to demonize the people that don't see it your way, and I have more clues than you would ever know and feel no requirement to share them. One last comment just for you - yeah, as the rest of America are having "fun and relaxing" there are soldiers in Iraq on their fourth and fifth tours and that little fact haunts me daily but, as you stated, that was their choice to join-up and I guess people like you see it that they need to lie in the bed that they made. I hope all your days are happy and fun. Bye TTTTTT, Actually this will be my last entry on RDking's blog. I wasted too much time and space on this person's blog. If you state you are not obtuse then I would suggest you stop acting as such.

Justy, I am not obtuse. I understand. You need not explain every little thing to me just because I don't buy into what you say hook, line and sinker. I do agree with some of your points. I disagree with others. I wholeheartedly take great offense to your presentation of our country as evil when it is Bush that you despise. I know what this country gives to people. Sometimes people say it gives to much. Maybe so. But I would rather ere on the side of generosity than not. I know it gave my dad a family when he had none. It gave him food, work, a skill, self worth. Not only my dad but millions of men and women, even today. I don't have to agree with it but I was taught to disagree with it through the right channels and with the same respect I would have if I agreed. I am angry at myself for continuing to discuss this with you and yet I do so because you offend me so in my father's memory. In the memory of so many fathers. Please DO send round your petitions for impeachment. YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT! These people died for you to have that right. They want you to have that liberty. They do not begrudge you that. But please do not besmirch their memories or call the soldiers who are there now war criminals and rapists. You are not there. You have NO CLUE what living under those conditions are. No one knows what it is like except those that have been there. So until you go there yourself and walk those streets please keep those young soldiers out of your diatribe. Focus on your impeachment. And this Hitler thing is rabidly overly obsessive too.
One more thing. Remember this Justy. Yes you can blog about what you want but..this is a DATING AND FRIENDS SITE! People come here to relax and have fun.

Justy, I am not obtuse. I understand. You need not explain every little thing to me just because I don't buy into what you say hook, line and sinker. I do agree with some of your points. I disagree with others. I wholeheartedly take great offense to your presentation of our country as evil when it is Bush that you despise. I know what this country gives to people. Sometimes people say it gives to much. Maybe so. But I would rather ere on the side of generosity than not. I know it gave my dad a family when he had none. It gave him food, work, a skill, self worth. Not only my dad but millions of men and women, even today. I don't have to agree with it but I was taught to disagree with it through the right channels and with the same respect I would have if I agreed. I am angry at myself for continuing to discuss this with you and yet I do so because you offend me so in my father's memory. In the memory of so many fathers. Please DO send round your petitions for impeachment. YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT! These people died for you to have that right. They want you to have that liberty. They do not begrudge you that. But please do not besmirch their memories or call the soldiers who are there now war criminals and rapists. You are not there. You have NO CLUE what living under those conditions are. No one knows what it is like except those that have been there. So until you go there yourself and walk those streets please keep those young soldiers out of your diatribe. Focus on your impeachment. And this Hitler thing is rabidly overly obsessive too. One more thing. Remember this Justy. Yes you can blog about what you want but..this is a DATING AND FRIENDS SITE! People come here to relax and have fun.

Saddams Bumper Stickers
My Army invaded Kuwait and all I got was this lousy bumper sticker
Quit honking! I'm retreating as fast as I can
Shi ites happen
If you dont like the way I reign get out of small, neighboring countries
Lose Kuwait now! Ask me how
If you're right and own a uranium refining plant, Im single
If you can read this you're probably with the 1st Airborne
Bomb me, I need the insurance

Saddams Bumper Stickers My Army invaded Kuwait and all I got was this lousy bumper sticker Quit honking! I'm retreating as fast as I can Shi ites happen If you dont like the way I reign get out of small, neighboring countries Lose Kuwait now! Ask me how If you're right and own a uranium refining plant, Im single If you can read this you're probably with the 1st Airborne Bomb me, I need the insurance

TTT- The Clinton BJ impeachment comment was to point out how quickly the Shrub's and Cheney's Impeachment could occur if Congress had the balls and Americans demanded it. That comment was a direct reply to your comment about there not being sufficient time to Impeach Bush. Sometimes I'm amaze that you state something and then after I reply you don't seem to recall what your original comment was that prompted my response. For example, when you stated something about not replying to you because you were a woman or something like that, and then I make it a point to reply back to you, you blast me for that.
Perhaps you feel frustrated with me because I point out the truth and you don't want to hear it or want you don't want to believe it. I don't spend all this time blogging for popularity. Hell, I might be the most hated person on this website. I blog so people can be shown the truth. The truth will set us free. If our corporate control media would state the facts/truth I would not feel the need to be stating it here.
I also find it amazing that Americans can't spend the time figure out what is happening in Iraq or don't want to deal with it cause it's too distressing. If people lived combat perhaps they might feel for the GIs over there. ...And that is something the Shrub or Cheney will never understand cause they didn't go to Nam. Cheney had 5 Nam deferments cause as he stated, he had better thing to do, And what did the Shrub state? Something like 'bring them on'. Yeah right.

TTT- The Clinton BJ impeachment comment was to point out how quickly the Shrub's and Cheney's Impeachment could occur if Congress had the balls and Americans demanded it. That comment was a direct reply to your comment about there not being sufficient time to Impeach Bush. Sometimes I'm amaze that you state something and then after I reply you don't seem to recall what your original comment was that prompted my response. For example, when you stated something about not replying to you because you were a woman or something like that, and then I make it a point to reply back to you, you blast me for that. Perhaps you feel frustrated with me because I point out the truth and you don't want to hear it or want you don't want to believe it. I don't spend all this time blogging for popularity. Hell, I might be the most hated person on this website. I blog so people can be shown the truth. The truth will set us free. If our corporate control media would state the facts/truth I would not feel the need to be stating it here. I also find it amazing that Americans can't spend the time figure out what is happening in Iraq or don't want to deal with it cause it's too distressing. If people lived combat perhaps they might feel for the GIs over there. ...And that is something the Shrub or Cheney will never understand cause they didn't go to Nam. Cheney had 5 Nam deferments cause as he stated, he had better thing to do, And what did the Shrub state? Something like 'bring them on'. Yeah right.

L2R- Funny but Vietnam stopped the killing fields in Cambodia, and we need to review the cause of it which many believe was the US destabilizing the region with our involvement in Nam.
By 1973 a told of 539,129 tons of ordnance were dropped on Cambodia with our indiscriminate B-52 carpet-bombing [which Nixon denied]. This tonnage is about 3 1/2 times more than that the 153,000 tons dropped on Japan during the WWII. Amazing eh? Up to 600,000 Cambodians die. The CIA reported that those bombing only served to increase the popularity of the Khmer Rouge among the affected Cambodian population and were judged militarily ineffective for destroying the NVA in Cambodia. One may venture to say that the Cambodia killing field actually began in March of 1974 when the Khmer Rouge capture Odongk. Note, we left Nam in April 1975. Odongk was destroyed and its 20,000 inhabitants were dispersed into the countryside. Teachers and public servants were executed. These current GOPs love to rewrite history.
Today, we trade with Vietnam. Communism did not spread across Southeast Asia, which the politician stated it would all during the 60's and 70's. Now how many Vietnamese did the US kill in our 22 years of Nam involvement? Let's see only 600,000 Cambodians in our carpet-bombing.
Now do any of you trust that Bush will not Bomb Iran? That is the next target on the Neocon's plate. On August 17, 2007, from the SCO summit in Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan, the leaders of Russia, China, and Iran warned the outside world to let Central Asia look after its own stability and security. This message was directed at the United States and issued on the eve of major war games between Russia and China. Time for you all to wise-up. If Bush does any sortie into Iran that will be the start of WWIII. Of course the Shrub and his family will be in the bunkers when the missiles fly. I feel so much safer.

L2R- Funny but Vietnam stopped the killing fields in Cambodia, and we need to review the cause of it which many believe was the US destabilizing the region with our involvement in Nam. By 1973 a told of 539,129 tons of ordnance were dropped on Cambodia with our indiscriminate B-52 carpet-bombing [which Nixon denied]. This tonnage is about 3 1/2 times more than that the 153,000 tons dropped on Japan during the WWII. Amazing eh? Up to 600,000 Cambodians die. The CIA reported that those bombing only served to increase the popularity of the Khmer Rouge among the affected Cambodian population and were judged militarily ineffective for destroying the NVA in Cambodia. One may venture to say that the Cambodia killing field actually began in March of 1974 when the Khmer Rouge capture Odongk. Note, we left Nam in April 1975. Odongk was destroyed and its 20,000 inhabitants were dispersed into the countryside. Teachers and public servants were executed. These current GOPs love to rewrite history. Today, we trade with Vietnam. Communism did not spread across Southeast Asia, which the politician stated it would all during the 60's and 70's. Now how many Vietnamese did the US kill in our 22 years of Nam involvement? Let's see only 600,000 Cambodians in our carpet-bombing. Now do any of you trust that Bush will not Bomb Iran? That is the next target on the Neocon's plate. On August 17, 2007, from the SCO summit in Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan, the leaders of Russia, China, and Iran warned the outside world to let Central Asia look after its own stability and security. This message was directed at the United States and issued on the eve of major war games between Russia and China. Time for you all to wise-up. If Bush does any sortie into Iran that will be the start of WWIII. Of course the Shrub and his family will be in the bunkers when the missiles fly. I feel so much safer.