Club’s licence now set to be reviewed

THE police have decided to apply for a review of the Brunel Rooms’ licence after seeing an expected rise in violence and public disorder since it opened last year.

The licence of the town centre club, which was taken back under the control of management last week, is due to go to review at the licensing committee on February 18 or 19 after Wiltshire Police raised concerns about safety in the club.

There is the potential for civil action to be taken against the council if they were found not to have practiced due diligence in granting the initial licence.

Objections were lodged by Wiltshire Police last year after their investigations showed the likelihood of a spike in disorder with the granting of a late licence, and the inexperience or unsuitability of the three directors.

The grounds for the review include the failure to meet the licensing objective of the prevention of crime and disorder due to a number of incidents of crime and disorder linked to the premises, and the failure to meet the licensing objective of the protection of public safety due to incidents involving injury.

Concerns were raised at the time of the application on July 24 last year regarding disorder in Havelock Square.

In 2009, 84 incidents of violence, anti-social behaviour and criminal damage were recorded, at peak times of between 3am and 4am, when the 1,700-capacity club was operating.

Following the closure of Liquid And Envy in 2011, that number dropped to just one incident in 2013.

Since the original licence was granted, the condition stipulating drinks must be sold in safe containers was changed to allow glasses in The Gold Lounge area.

In a statement at the time, police licensing officer Sian Kalynka said: “There are a number of concerns about the suitability of Jason Ranford in his role as assistant manager and director.

“It is a matter of public record that Jason Ranford has convictions which make him unsuitable to work in such a position.”

The licensing panel took into account the comments made by Wiltshire Police, with the exception of those against Jason, as they were not in a position to remove him from his directorship.

Jason said he hopes for a positive result at the hearing, and the club is due to return on February 14.

“We have been speaking with our legal team, who say we are in a strong position,” he said. “If the decision goes against us, we will have three weeks still to trade, during which time we are able to appeal.

“We might have to adhere to some stronger conditions, but if the worst does happen we will have some time to remain open.”

I can't help feeling that the police are workshy when it comes to this type of thing after all they are there to enable and also to protect the majority of law abiding citizens as they go about their lawful business. However in this case I think they are right - Randford is clearly not a suitable person to be running a licensed premises. This was most recently demonstrated by his settling of disputes in some sort of boxing match. I hope the people making the decision are fully aware of his recent actions such as this.

I can't help feeling that the police are workshy when it comes to this type of thing after all they are there to enable and also to protect the majority of law abiding citizens as they go about their lawful business. However in this case I think they are right - Randford is clearly not a suitable person to be running a licensed premises. This was most recently demonstrated by his settling of disputes in some sort of boxing match. I hope the people making the decision are fully aware of his recent actions such as this.adsinibiza

I always find this comment "Objections were lodged by Wiltshire Police last year after their investigations showed the likelihood of a spike in disorder with the granting of a late licence," because after being closed for so long, then now open. One incident in that area means an increase of 100%. So it is really false data..

I always find this comment "Objections were lodged by Wiltshire Police last year after their investigations showed the likelihood of a spike in disorder with the granting of a late licence," because after being closed for so long, then now open. One incident in that area means an increase of 100%. So it is really false data..Highworth Lad

Jason is a criminal that's for sure, but what about those two girls? They have ripped everyone off and I see their mum called the people of Swindon 'poor' on facebook and we didn't support their club?? Well at least the vast majority of people are honest and have some integrity, unlike those sisters.

Jason is a criminal that's for sure, but what about those two girls? They have ripped everyone off and I see their mum called the people of Swindon 'poor' on facebook and we didn't support their club?? Well at least the vast majority of people are honest and have some integrity, unlike those sisters.swindon281

Highworth Lad wrote:
One incident in that area means an increase of 100%. So it is really false data..

100% of zero is zero. In order for 1 to represent an increase of 100%, the starting-point would need to be 1, which would mean two incidents in total.
Elementary mathematics aside, what is worrying is that the council's licensing committee chose to overrule and completely ignore police objections concerning the fitness and experience of the directors to run a licensed premises, and also completely ignored objections based on Jason "Crime Does Pay" Ranford's criminal activities. It's as if the licensing committee were saying 'we don't care if criminals and rank amateurs run licensed premises in Swindon.' The results of that bizarre attitude speak for themselves.

[quote][p][bold]Highworth Lad[/bold] wrote:
One incident in that area means an increase of 100%. So it is really false data..[/quote]
100% of zero is zero. In order for 1 to represent an increase of 100%, the starting-point would need to be 1, which would mean two incidents in total.
Elementary mathematics aside, what is worrying is that the council's licensing committee chose to overrule and completely ignore police objections concerning the fitness and experience of the directors to run a licensed premises, and also completely ignored objections based on Jason "Crime Does Pay" Ranford's criminal activities. It's as if the licensing committee were saying 'we don't care if criminals and rank amateurs run licensed premises in Swindon.' The results of that bizarre attitude speak for themselves.Hmmmf

swindon281 wrote:
Jason is a criminal that's for sure, but what about those two girls? They have ripped everyone off and I see their mum called the people of Swindon 'poor' on facebook and we didn't support their club?? Well at least the vast majority of people are honest and have some integrity, unlike those sisters.

I think if we knew the true number of people who are not quite so honest and break the law in Swindon it might surprise a few! Sadly there is dishonesty everywhere in politics, business and private lives, but most would rather pretend there isn't.

[quote][p][bold]swindon281[/bold] wrote:
Jason is a criminal that's for sure, but what about those two girls? They have ripped everyone off and I see their mum called the people of Swindon 'poor' on facebook and we didn't support their club?? Well at least the vast majority of people are honest and have some integrity, unlike those sisters.[/p][/quote]I think if we knew the true number of people who are not quite so honest and break the law in Swindon it might surprise a few! Sadly there is dishonesty everywhere in politics, business and private lives, but most would rather pretend there isn't.house on the hill

Factually, people are more honest you are think. These people, Paula Harris, Helen Simpkins and ranford have PROVED themselves to be dishonest and have used the people of Swindon for their own material gain to fill their own pockets. its a real shame for the local community. the very people they were asking for support and indeed would have supported them until they S*at all over them. I feel really sorry for the young staff.

Factually, people are more honest you are think. These people, Paula Harris, Helen Simpkins and ranford have PROVED themselves to be dishonest and have used the people of Swindon for their own material gain to fill their own pockets. its a real shame for the local community. the very people they were asking for support and indeed would have supported them until they S*at all over them. I feel really sorry for the young staff.swindon281

house on the hill wrote:
The sooner we bring in 3 strikes and your out and get the career criminals off the street once and for all the better.

Sadly, 'three strikes' are the ones that criminals are allowed before they face any realistic prospect of a meaningful sentence.

[quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote:
The sooner we bring in 3 strikes and your out and get the career criminals off the street once and for all the better.[/p][/quote]Sadly, 'three strikes' are the ones that criminals are allowed before they face any realistic prospect of a meaningful sentence.ChannelX

adsinibiza wrote:
I can't help feeling that the police are workshy when it comes to this type of thing after all they are there to enable and also to protect the majority of law abiding citizens as they go about their lawful business. However in this case I think they are right - Randford is clearly not a suitable person to be running a licensed premises. This was most recently demonstrated by his settling of disputes in some sort of boxing match. I hope the people making the decision are fully aware of his recent actions such as this.

Talking about a nightclub when there is the issue of Syria. Nudge nudge wink wink.

[quote][p][bold]adsinibiza[/bold] wrote:
I can't help feeling that the police are workshy when it comes to this type of thing after all they are there to enable and also to protect the majority of law abiding citizens as they go about their lawful business. However in this case I think they are right - Randford is clearly not a suitable person to be running a licensed premises. This was most recently demonstrated by his settling of disputes in some sort of boxing match. I hope the people making the decision are fully aware of his recent actions such as this.[/p][/quote]Talking about a nightclub when there is the issue of Syria. Nudge nudge wink wink.Davey Gravey

“There are a number of concerns about the suitability of Jason Ranford in his role as assistant manager and director.

“It is a matter of public record that Jason Ranford has convictions which make him unsuitable to work in such a position.”

understatement of the year. This is a man who thinks that the ethical way to sort out business grievances is trial by combat!!!! Probably says a lot about the way he runs his business and why he is totally unsuitable to hold any position of responsibility.

“There are a number of concerns about the suitability of Jason Ranford in his role as assistant manager and director.
“It is a matter of public record that Jason Ranford has convictions which make him unsuitable to work in such a position.”
understatement of the year. This is a man who thinks that the ethical way to sort out business grievances is trial by combat!!!! Probably says a lot about the way he runs his business and why he is totally unsuitable to hold any position of responsibility.therocker

therocker wrote:
“There are a number of concerns about the suitability of Jason Ranford in his role as assistant manager and director.

“It is a matter of public record that Jason Ranford has convictions which make him unsuitable to work in such a position.”

understatement of the year. This is a man who thinks that the ethical way to sort out business grievances is trial by combat!!!! Probably says a lot about the way he runs his business and why he is totally unsuitable to hold any position of responsibility.

I agree, but there are THREE directors. The sisters haven't been whiter than white. the three of them have conned the people of Swindon. Employed people, employed firms for work and them not paid them and put the money in their pockets. this is an UTTER DISGRACE and bordering on theft. If I were a supplier or employer, these people would be in a tribunal or a court. I feel strongly as a local resident.

[quote][p][bold]therocker[/bold] wrote:
“There are a number of concerns about the suitability of Jason Ranford in his role as assistant manager and director.
“It is a matter of public record that Jason Ranford has convictions which make him unsuitable to work in such a position.”
understatement of the year. This is a man who thinks that the ethical way to sort out business grievances is trial by combat!!!! Probably says a lot about the way he runs his business and why he is totally unsuitable to hold any position of responsibility.[/p][/quote]I agree, but there are THREE directors. The sisters haven't been whiter than white. the three of them have conned the people of Swindon. Employed people, employed firms for work and them not paid them and put the money in their pockets. this is an UTTER DISGRACE and bordering on theft. If I were a supplier or employer, these people would be in a tribunal or a court. I feel strongly as a local resident.swindon281

I like the bit where the idiots say 'they have been speaking to their legal team'.....do the legal team know that Paula, Helen and Ranford will not be paying them either for the advice? lol!!!

I like the bit where the idiots say 'they have been speaking to their legal team'.....do the legal team know that Paula, Helen and Ranford will not be paying them either for the advice? lol!!!swindon281

Why is everyone so bothered about this place? Swindon town centre is a complete dive and why anyone with any class would want to go out and drink there is a mystery. The whole place is full of chavs and other benefits abusers and should be avoided at all costs.....

Why is everyone so bothered about this place? Swindon town centre is a complete dive and why anyone with any class would want to go out and drink there is a mystery. The whole place is full of chavs and other benefits abusers and should be avoided at all costs.....Mango man

swindon281 wrote:
I like the bit where the idiots say 'they have been speaking to their legal team'.....do the legal team know that Paula, Helen and Ranford will not be paying them either for the advice? lol!!!

mind you lawyers know a trick or two so they have probably insisted on being paid in advance

[quote][p][bold]swindon281[/bold] wrote:
I like the bit where the idiots say 'they have been speaking to their legal team'.....do the legal team know that Paula, Helen and Ranford will not be paying them either for the advice? lol!!![/p][/quote]mind you lawyers know a trick or two so they have probably insisted on being paid in advanceadsinibiza

adsinibiza wrote:
I can't help feeling that the police are workshy when it comes to this type of thing after all they are there to enable and also to protect the majority of law abiding citizens as they go about their lawful business. However in this case I think they are right - Randford is clearly not a suitable person to be running a licensed premises. This was most recently demonstrated by his settling of disputes in some sort of boxing match. I hope the people making the decision are fully aware of his recent actions such as this.

Talking about a nightclub when there is the issue of Syria. Nudge nudge wink wink.

fair cop guv

[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]adsinibiza[/bold] wrote:
I can't help feeling that the police are workshy when it comes to this type of thing after all they are there to enable and also to protect the majority of law abiding citizens as they go about their lawful business. However in this case I think they are right - Randford is clearly not a suitable person to be running a licensed premises. This was most recently demonstrated by his settling of disputes in some sort of boxing match. I hope the people making the decision are fully aware of his recent actions such as this.[/p][/quote]Talking about a nightclub when there is the issue of Syria. Nudge nudge wink wink.[/p][/quote]fair cop guvadsinibiza

swindon281 wrote:
I like the bit where the idiots say 'they have been speaking to their legal team'.....do the legal team know that Paula, Helen and Ranford will not be paying them either for the advice? lol!!!

they are using morrison and masters what more needs to be said

[quote][p][bold]swindon281[/bold] wrote:
I like the bit where the idiots say 'they have been speaking to their legal team'.....do the legal team know that Paula, Helen and Ranford will not be paying them either for the advice? lol!!![/p][/quote]they are using morrison and masters what more needs to be saidgambon

therocker wrote:
“There are a number of concerns about the suitability of Jason Ranford in his role as assistant manager and director.

“It is a matter of public record that Jason Ranford has convictions which make him unsuitable to work in such a position.”

understatement of the year. This is a man who thinks that the ethical way to sort out business grievances is trial by combat!!!! Probably says a lot about the way he runs his business and why he is totally unsuitable to hold any position of responsibility.

I agree, but there are THREE directors. The sisters haven't been whiter than white. the three of them have conned the people of Swindon. Employed people, employed firms for work and them not paid them and put the money in their pockets. this is an UTTER DISGRACE and bordering on theft. If I were a supplier or employer, these people would be in a tribunal or a court. I feel strongly as a local resident.

There are young people who worked hard for these morons over the Christmas and New Year period long unsocial hours and haven't been paid. They tried to fob them off with cheques which weren't worth the paper they were written on. Other local firms are also owed money. Pay up or shut up shop completely.

[quote][p][bold]swindon281[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]therocker[/bold] wrote:
“There are a number of concerns about the suitability of Jason Ranford in his role as assistant manager and director.
“It is a matter of public record that Jason Ranford has convictions which make him unsuitable to work in such a position.”
understatement of the year. This is a man who thinks that the ethical way to sort out business grievances is trial by combat!!!! Probably says a lot about the way he runs his business and why he is totally unsuitable to hold any position of responsibility.[/p][/quote]I agree, but there are THREE directors. The sisters haven't been whiter than white. the three of them have conned the people of Swindon. Employed people, employed firms for work and them not paid them and put the money in their pockets. this is an UTTER DISGRACE and bordering on theft. If I were a supplier or employer, these people would be in a tribunal or a court. I feel strongly as a local resident.[/p][/quote]There are young people who worked hard for these morons over the Christmas and New Year period long unsocial hours and haven't been paid. They tried to fob them off with cheques which weren't worth the paper they were written on. Other local firms are also owed money. Pay up or shut up shop completely.silvergran

therocker wrote:
“There are a number of concerns about the suitability of Jason Ranford in his role as assistant manager and director.

“It is a matter of public record that Jason Ranford has convictions which make him unsuitable to work in such a position.”

understatement of the year. This is a man who thinks that the ethical way to sort out business grievances is trial by combat!!!! Probably says a lot about the way he runs his business and why he is totally unsuitable to hold any position of responsibility.

I agree, but there are THREE directors. The sisters haven't been whiter than white. the three of them have conned the people of Swindon. Employed people, employed firms for work and them not paid them and put the money in their pockets. this is an UTTER DISGRACE and bordering on theft. If I were a supplier or employer, these people would be in a tribunal or a court. I feel strongly as a local resident.

There are young people who worked hard for these morons over the Christmas and New Year period long unsocial hours and haven't been paid. They tried to fob them off with cheques which weren't worth the paper they were written on. Other local firms are also owed money. Pay up or shut up shop completely.

Well said Silvergran. Paula, Helen & Ranford are a disgrace to the local community. I don't know who they show their faces around. If you look in previous articles, it was all 'give us chance', 'support local business' They have STOLEN from the very mouths that fed them. There are three criminals here. What they have done is bordering on THEFT.

[quote][p][bold]silvergran[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]swindon281[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]therocker[/bold] wrote:
“There are a number of concerns about the suitability of Jason Ranford in his role as assistant manager and director.
“It is a matter of public record that Jason Ranford has convictions which make him unsuitable to work in such a position.”
understatement of the year. This is a man who thinks that the ethical way to sort out business grievances is trial by combat!!!! Probably says a lot about the way he runs his business and why he is totally unsuitable to hold any position of responsibility.[/p][/quote]I agree, but there are THREE directors. The sisters haven't been whiter than white. the three of them have conned the people of Swindon. Employed people, employed firms for work and them not paid them and put the money in their pockets. this is an UTTER DISGRACE and bordering on theft. If I were a supplier or employer, these people would be in a tribunal or a court. I feel strongly as a local resident.[/p][/quote]There are young people who worked hard for these morons over the Christmas and New Year period long unsocial hours and haven't been paid. They tried to fob them off with cheques which weren't worth the paper they were written on. Other local firms are also owed money. Pay up or shut up shop completely.[/p][/quote]Well said Silvergran. Paula, Helen & Ranford are a disgrace to the local community. I don't know who they show their faces around. If you look in previous articles, it was all 'give us chance', 'support local business' They have STOLEN from the very mouths that fed them. There are three criminals here. What they have done is bordering on THEFT.swindon281