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Basketball - NBC SportsTue, 31 Mar 2015 18:53:38 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: nygrwyhttp://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/02/knicks-legend-bill-bradley-wonders-if-carmelo-knicks-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-178226
Wed, 03 Apr 2013 03:14:24 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=459768#comment-178226Ive been a knicks fan my whole life and I am still not sure if he gets it. However this team looks much better when he is not the sole focal point of the offense and other players are getting involved.

I have up and down feelings about Melo. I think he is a good offensive player (not great bc he is not accurate) he has moves for days but he is not likeable. We now can thank Rasheed Wallace for the three point tap that Melo now does. Its a great idea to do something the most hated player in NBA does. Its real easy to see why he gets no calls.

The Heat have actually been getting better over the last 3 years as Lebron is more and more recognized as the go-to guy on the team, with Wade and Bosh fading into the background. The 2010/2011 Heat team struggled at times because Lebron deferred too much to those players. The Heat rarely ‘entrust’ the ball in Bosh’s hands anymore – he basically gets all of his points in the pick and pop or pick and roll plays with Lebron/Wade.

Which leads into the second point. How many 3s has Novak or JR Smith hit from plays set up by Carmelo? How many pick and roll dunks has Chandler finished from Carmelo? If Lebron were on that team, Novak would be hitting 3 or 4 threes every night, and Chandler would be making at least 3 or 4 buckets directly from Lebron’s passes. When we talk about Lebron “making team play sacrifices”, we don’t mean that he’s giving up the ball for someone else to make a play. It means he’s keeping his head up and finding his teammates for scoring plays. The Knicks have plenty of players who can make shots – guys who would thrive with Lebron, just no one else besides Smith and Carmelo who can really create offense on his own.

I still think Carmelo could be on a championship calibre team, but he is not a playmaker. He is a scorer, plain and simple.

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Wed, 03 Apr 2013 01:13:34 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=459768#comment-178195You’re (W)right.
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Wed, 03 Apr 2013 01:11:59 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=459768#comment-178194If there’s a burnt offering involved: forget it: sacrifice…get it? Whadya mean, “no”?
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Wed, 03 Apr 2013 00:39:40 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=459768#comment-178191kingbeason52’s assessment of the knicks was so bad, i had to refresh the page to make sure i was actually seeing that ridiculous comment.
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Tue, 02 Apr 2013 23:44:37 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=459768#comment-178178this is the most complete Carmelo has been since entering the league, of course he had some inconsistent times. he still spends to much time arguing calls.. he wants the treatment that a player with his credentials should get. but crys to the refs. entirely too much. but to his credit i would call this his best year as a team player. for those of you who say he doesn’t play D what do you think rebounding is.
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Tue, 02 Apr 2013 23:39:20 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=459768#comment-178177I was wrong about my initial post…Bradley isn’t the uneducated one, you are.
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Tue, 02 Apr 2013 22:04:29 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=459768#comment-178168Bradley is basically reading from the Scouting reports on the Knicks.

Just because a player is a superstar doesn’t necessarily mean they have all the attributes to win championships.

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Tue, 02 Apr 2013 21:29:35 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=459768#comment-178159Wow. A thumbs down for setting the record straight. Tough crowd.
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Tue, 02 Apr 2013 21:26:17 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=459768#comment-178156You don’t know much about the Knicks, huh?
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Tue, 02 Apr 2013 21:24:35 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=459768#comment-178155It’s easy for Lebron to make “team play sacrifices” when he’s entrusting the ball with Wade and Bosh and his other high quality role players. But you can bet if his supporting cast was as unreliable as Carmelo’s was in stretches this season, Lebron would take over games as much as Melo has needed to at times. That being said, if JR can continue doing what he’s doing off the bench, Iman continues hitting corner threes the way he has lately, Martin continues contributing down low as well as Tyson when he returns, Melo will have no reason not to play team ball, and the Knicks will be better for it.
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Tue, 02 Apr 2013 21:21:29 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=459768#comment-178154Carmelo and JR are selfish players when the ball is in there hand..Amare does not want to come off the bench for the better of the team..and he busted his hand in the playoffs last year..Rasheed Wallace gets a technical every other game he is healthy enough to play in because he cant keep his mouth shut for one whole game..Outside of Tyson Chandler being a great allstar center everyone else on the team is one-dimensional..Shumpert could turn out to be really good..
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Tue, 02 Apr 2013 21:20:55 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=459768#comment-178153He gets it. And Coach makes sure that he and the rest of the team gets it. The current streak is no fluke. Their offensive efficiency is the best in the league during the streak, and that leads to better defense (or vice versa, whichever way you want to approach it). Even when the Knicks were faltering, Melo got all the blame, when in reality, it was shared all the way up to Woodson, who would not depart from those foolish 1 on 5 lineups (Melo being the only bona fide offensive threat), not running screens for guys like Novak, and not adjusting substitution patterns when the defense tailed off miserably with the second unit. Now the second unit is both playing much better defense, and outscoring every opponent’s bench at a 3:1 clip of late, and therefore there is no shock about their winning streak or whether they get it. They’re having fun playing basketball and excelling with wins, as well. Just as was the case for the first two months of the season, they can beat all comers as long as JR doesn’t revert. Melo hasn’t even shot well at all during this streak and it hasn’t mattered. All the secondhand, wannabe Dr. Jack Ramsays who populate this site and thumbs-down facts/wisdom and thumbs-up childish 15 year old bloviations can continue spewing what pundits who only browse box scores and don’t watch Knicks games. But those who do — non-Knicks fans who watch them regularly, included — know that the answer to the question is “YES.”

The only question to be asked of this team is “Can they simply stay healthy (and get Stoudemire and Wallace back, who will only be plusses)?”

Not whether they “get it” or not.

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Tue, 02 Apr 2013 21:17:05 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=459768#comment-178152Senator Bill Bradley served in the U.S. Senate from 1979 to 1997 representing the state of New Jersey.

Just sayin’.

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Tue, 02 Apr 2013 21:15:13 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=459768#comment-178151why do you say that ? kidd , chandler, prigioni, kurt thomas, felton..knicks have guys that are team players..not necessarily all guys who will propel you to 100 points..that’s why you have melo and jr smith to create. knicks have been playing well. they play together. i feel like people just never wanna give knicks credit still from all the bad years of the past and people still like to hate on carmelo cuz of this whole “hero ball” stigma. smh
]]>By: seannymohttp://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/02/knicks-legend-bill-bradley-wonders-if-carmelo-knicks-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-178142
Tue, 02 Apr 2013 20:50:40 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=459768#comment-178142“I don’t know him enough. I don’t know if he has. I hope so. And he might already know it.”

Yes, Bradley is a Knick legend but he’s admittedly uneducated about the current team and it’s superstar. He clearly has not watched the team much this season…this team has played unselfishly all year and has that urgency defensively they haven’t had in years (It all stated with Chandler last year).

I get that they ran the article today bc it’s the last meeting between MIA and NY and they are comparing the two. But this storyline has been a big one all year and is so played out. (A team needs to work together and play unselfish basketball to win a title?! You don’t say!?)

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Tue, 02 Apr 2013 20:45:59 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=459768#comment-178141I think they all know how to get the ball…They need to learn to give it up… treat the ball like your ladies and remember “Ain’t no fun if the Homies can’t have none” !
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Tue, 02 Apr 2013 20:38:17 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=459768#comment-178138The answer is no, they don’t get it.
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Tue, 02 Apr 2013 20:32:13 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=459768#comment-178132Bradley has a point, but he’s not 100% accurate – there have been some pretty selfish teams to win NBA Titles in the past. What Bradley really should say is, “The Knicks don’t have enough youth and talent to succeed playing selfish ball.”

Oh, and since when is Shane Battier part of the Big 4 in Miami? Good for Shane; he’s worked hard.