Moon Orbit Wrong Cornell University Says.

Originally posted by CherubBaby
I am threading this frankly because I want those who are not aware or those who just don't know to have a chance to see this and make their own
decision. The moon is not right. Many people here on ATS know this. Thousands of people worldwide also are aware. The internet has a mulltitude of eye
witness acounts. It is my hope that this will put some light on the doubters and possibly keep the trollers / and derailers away long enough to allow
some of you a chance to read so facts that are not opions of mine alone but of Educated people in this field.,,

Moon Orbit Wrong Cornell University associate Lorenzo Lorio, Has Researched i'm sure because of public outcry & observations made by You, my
Friends, Visitors & others on the Internet and Concluded that Indeed there Is Something Wrong With The Sun Moon & Earth

The link to the full story and video is below. I only ask that you who do not know or for those that are not sure, please read the story and watch the
video. It won't be long before the Dis-info agents attack this thread. That's fine. They are more concerned with being self proclaimed authorities
than the possible chance that we all need to sit up and take notice of whats going on HERE AND NOW..

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I find this so fasinating, but I too am no genius nor math wizard - However - as the Earth's axis is changing (and NASA has confirmed - due to
earthquakes) it would seem to me that the path of the moon's orbit would change as well. Maybe, this is what the Mayan calendar is all about - the
next Earth cycle change. Edgar Cayce has also stated that the Earth's axis will shift, so could this be the effect?

(The "shortened day" is about 1.8 microseconds!! Or, about ONE-Millionth of ONE second).

In any case, there is no plausible mechanism that would significantly affect the Moon's orbit, from a physical Earth axis change. A huge change in
Earth's mass, though, would have some perturbation effects. But, that's completely unlikely anyways.

BUT, the bare bones part of this story that began the thread?? It's not anywhere near as the Opening Post attempted to portray it, in terms of the
very tiny anomaly that is the point of this paper.

Originally posted by depeche
I find this so fasinating, but I too am no genius nor math wizard - However - as the Earth's axis is changing (and NASA has confirmed - due to
earthquakes) it would seem to me that the path of the moon's orbit would change as well. Maybe, this is what the Mayan calendar is all about - the
next Earth cycle change. Edgar Cayce has also stated that the Earth's axis will shift, so could this be the effect?

The change in position of the true pole is on the order of inches due to earthquakes. It is a small change due to a slight redistribution of mass.

The change in position of the true pole is on the order of inches due to earthquakes.

Incorrect. The location of the "true poles" did not change. That would mean that the axis of rotation moved. It did not, that could only be caused by
an outside force. A very powerful outside force.

It was the figure axis which was (theoretically) slightly dislocated by the earthquakes.

Gross also estimates that the Chile earthquake shifted Earth's figure axis by about three inches (eight centimeters).

Deviating roughly 33 feet (10 meters) from the north-south axis around which Earth revolves, the figure axis is the imaginary line around which the
world's unevenly distributed mass is balanced.

To explain the difference, Keith Sverdrup, a seismologist at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, likened Earth to a spinning figure skater holding
a rock in one hand. The rotational axis of the skater is still down the middle of the body, he said, but the skater's figure axis is shifted slightly
in the direction of the hand holding the rock.

Already discussed to death. A "planet X" type perturber was specifically ruled out by the paper, please read the actual paper with some level of
understanding.

Here its published that there is something on "anomalous secular increase of the eccentricity of the orbit of the moon" from Harvard no less.

It's not published from Harvard, it's published by the journal "Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society." Not knocking the latter, but
you apparently didn't even read what your link actually said.

As for what's actually causing it, the scientists who actually discovered the anomalous increase (it wasn't Iorio), suggest that it is probably due
to internal dynamics of the moon that are not yet fully understood and investigated. The moon's interior in general is not as well investigated as
the earth's interior, and more work remains to be done by future probes and missions to the lunar surface (indeed, even GRAIL is specifically
designed to contribute to our knowledge of the lunar interior).

There is no evidence for any anomaly in the tidal acceleration in mean longitude. By contrast, the anomalous lunar eccentricity rate indicates that
something is not understood well enough. Though it cannot be said with certainty that the anomaly comes from the Moon, the lunar interior is less well
known than the Earth‘s interior. Computation of lunar orbit evolution over long times needs a good understanding of the various contributions to the
secular rates. Long-time evolution of the orbit is complex because of evolving lunar thermal conditions and changing ocean tides (Bills and Ray,
1999).

The possibility raised by Williams and Boggs was not investigated by Iorio, but the perturber theory Iorio did investigate resulted in it being ruled
out as a possibility. Furthermore, as has been exhaustively stated and demonstrated, the scale of the anomaly is far too small for anyone to see by
eye or even by telescope, it can only be detected by lunar laser ranging.

I was on my cell phone late afternoon today looking at google sky map. Everything alligned up....sun setting...etc.....moon was way off.......google
sky map showed it in the northern sky....it apppeared in the northeast sky.....check it out

waverunner87
I was on my cell phone late afternoon today looking at google sky map. Everything alligned up....sun setting...etc.....moon was way off.......google
sky map showed it in the northern sky....it apppeared in the northeast sky.....check it out

edit on 12-2-2014 by waverunner87 because:
spelling

Google sky is not exactly an authoritative source of information about the moon. I've found the phone to be quite buggy. The moon should have been
in the northeast for my location yesterday late afternoon as well, according to my own calculations. It sounds to me like Google Sky was just fouled
up. dropcanvas.com...

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