She'll definitely need one for her baby. But if she is returning, and its her baby, the baby has the right to return and get his rightful passport(or get it made at the British embassy in Syria if it exists and then travel). But the baby's passport isn't an issue if her arrival is confirmed.

She'll definitely need one for her baby. But if she is returning, and its her baby, the baby has the right to return and get his rightful passport(or get it made at the British embassy in Syria if it exists and then travel). But the baby's passport i

We don't know the strength of the Home Office case, they have information we are not privy to.What we do know is that the law is open to interpretation and if the Home Office decision is contested then some well paid people in fancy dress have the power to make a judgement.

We don't know the strength of the Home Office case, they have information we are not privy to.What we do know is that the law is open to interpretation and if the Home Office decision is contested then some well paid people in fancy dress have the po

Not read the whole thread, but cant all these captured ISIS fighters and brides just be handed over to Assad?I mean the crimes were committed in Syrian territory, so the Kurds should either hand them over to Syria or the Kurds should put them on trial themselves.

Not read the whole thread, but cant all these captured ISIS fighters and brides just be handed over to Assad?I mean the crimes were committed in Syrian territory, so the Kurds should either hand them over to Syria or the Kurds should put them on tria

Not sure if anyone here at CCDA is a lawyer. But from what little I know of International Law, and my experience with immigration, this is a very simple case. She comes back, simple as that.

@Foinovan, the information the Home Office should definitely have is her national identity number(or whatever it is in Bangladesh). They either have it or don't. As i said above, these matters are set clearly BEFORE a nationality or passport is acquired. The way bangladesh immediately denied her bangla nationality tells me the UK doesn't have anything. My guess is Sajid Javed is playing the issue perfectly by aggressively doing what the public will like to be done and later taking it back saying his hands are tied due to the law. He wins at the end of the day.

Not sure if anyone here at CCDA is a lawyer. But from what little I know of International Law, and my experience with immigration, this is a very simple case. She comes back, simple as that.@Foinovan, the information the Home Office should definitely

That may well be the case det but none of us know for sure.Many British citizens of SE Asian heritage marry someone from "back home" and this appears to have been the case here. Whether someone in born into such a family has dual nationality until the age of majority or has to claim it is the argument. I only know from my daughter's case (her mother is French) that she had automatic dual nationality until she was an adult at which point she could make a choice. Do Bangladesh and France follow the same law on this? I don't know but if it's international law then one might hope so.

That may well be the case det but none of us know for sure.Many British citizens of SE Asian heritage marry someone from "back home" and this appears to have been the case here. Whether someone in born into such a family has dual nationality until th

The reality is that she's the equivalent of Lord Haw Haw in that she's being 'broadcasting' in support of the enemy .Ideally she should be executed however due to the death penalty probably not being an option she should be incarcerated in a concentration camp along with every single man/woman who went to fight for IS. Madness to allow them back to live in this country as if nothing has happened.

The reality is that she's the equivalent of Lord Haw Haw in that she's being 'broadcasting' in support of the enemy .Ideally she should be executed however due to the death penalty probably not being an option she should be incarcerated in a concentr

If you’re not recognised as a citizen of any country, you’ll be a British citizen if both of the following apply:one of your parents is a British citizenyou were born in the UK or an overseas territory on or after 1 January 1983

So Sajid makes her stateless and she still has the right to British nationality. Sajid making her stateless is itself an illegal act, unless he can prove she is a bangladeshi national, which he should do without wasting anyone's time. The fact that he's not doing that, shows he's just milking the issue like any good politician would.

I am surprised people are on about what she did and how she is a threat to UK. That has no bearing on her right to return. If you think she is a threat, arrest her on return. But you can't deny someone reentry just because he or she did something you don't like. The IS aspect spreads sensationalism when that isn't a part of the issue of right to return. When lawyers take up the issue, people will be blaming the lawyers but the fact is the public themselves are too stupid to see the issue. Its a matter of dual nationality and someone's right to return. Both these are set clearly in the law and aren't a matter of opinion. What happens to her when she returns is a matter of opinion, but her right to return is not. Unless Sajid comes out with her bangla nationality details. He shouldn't be wasting the public's time. He either has her data or not.

If you’re statelessIf you’re not recognised as a citizen of any country, you’ll be a British citizen if both of the following apply:one of your parents is a British citizenyou were born in the UK or an overseas territory on or after 1 January 1

That may well be the case det but none of us know for sure.This is the thing I never understand about people. They should be asking the government about her bangla nationality details. Instead, they are on about IS and her decision to leave. The media and the politicians are milking it because people love the sensationalism that IS provides. And then people complain about the media and politicians.

That may well be the case det but none of us know for sure.This is the thing I never understand about people. They should be asking the government about her bangla nationality details. Instead, they are on about IS and her decision to leave. The medi

Just to put things in perspective, when foreign students in UK leave and come to Germany to claim asylum, UK does NOT share their details with Germany, despite the fact that UKIB has their fingerprints and all it needs is a search in the database. UK does not have that arrangement with Germany in case of asylum seekers.

If people think the UK is going to get any help from Bangladesh regarding her dual nationality, they are living in a fool's paradise. That is why I keep saying, if Sajid thinks she is a bangla national, he has to have her bangla national id number. It should be on her passport application form. Or do people really think that a member of the public can hold dual nationality without the government knowing?

Just to put things in perspective, when foreign students in UK leave and come to Germany to claim asylum, UK does NOT share their details with Germany, despite the fact that UKIB has their fingerprints and all it needs is a search in the database. UK

I understand that det. . My thoughts are that the government know her mother's nationality details as presumably she is a legal immigrant, it follows that legally dependent children are covered by that. My daughter's legal status as a minor was covered by her birth registration. Although she is now an adult with a French passport I think she would have a good case if she wanted a British one as well or instead.There must be legal precedents for stripping an individual of a particular nationality if they have another one and if this case comes to court as it is threatening to do, it will be interesting to see the eventual outcome.

I understand that det. . My thoughts are that the government know her mother's nationality details as presumably she is a legal immigrant, it follows that legally dependent children are covered by that. My daughter's legal status as a minor was cover

saddo 22 Feb 19 12:15 Joined: 04 Dec 05 | Topic/replies: 36,489 | Blogger: saddo's blog She'll be hounded by press and public for years like the Bulger scumsters if she returns, good luck with that.

Come on she is not as bad as that...what has she done wrong...she was ISIS Hoare..that is all

saddo 22 Feb 19 12:15 Joined: 04 Dec 05 | Topic/replies: 36,489 | Blogger: saddo's blog She'll be hounded by press and public for years like the Bulger scumsters if she returns, good luck with that.Come on she is not as bad as that...what has she don

There's absolutely no reason why she (or others) couldn't become a suicide bomber. She could, for example, with little training be capable of discharging a suicide belt on a bus or the London Underground.

Given that she has already reportedly described the Manchester Arena Suicide Bombing as 'justified', our security authorities would be negligent to rule it out.

We have no idea what she has or hasn't been trained in by ISIS. There's absolutely no reason why she (or others) couldn't become a suicide bomber. She could, for example, with little training be capable of discharging a suicide belt on a bus or the L

Just watching some videos on youtube and it pointed out the alarming differences of the media coverage of, Asia Bibi and Shamima Begum.

I still dont get how the media work, what makes them all travel to Syria to interview someone that joined a terrorist group but dont give a toss on bibi.

Just watching some videos on youtube and it pointed out the alarming differences of the media coverage of, Asia Bibi and Shamima Begum.I still dont get how the media work, what makes them all travel to Syria to interview someone that joined a terrori

^^You're a horsey person,...what would you know about politics and ISIS (tongue-in-cheek)?

I knew of several individuals/probable councillors/future MPs working in the councils in the late 80's abusing council facilities and privileges eg stationery, communication tools, transportation, expenses, etc, to facilitate their paths to higher offices and mega salaries. Also, in at least two London Councils it was not uncommon the officials with keys to empty housing properties were taking bungs (accordingly) prior to handling over these properties to the needy and/or associates. But the councils kept schtum as it was very not pc then.

This ISIS woman ought to stay where she is, and not return to the UK roaming the streets after supporting a vie terrorist group fighting against the British Army. The British government must it as difficult and as problematic for her to enter the UK, and make her an example of what (British) individuals like her can expect after voluntarily leaving Britain and choosing to fight for a terrorist group overseas.

^^You're a horsey person,...what would you know about politics and ISIS (tongue-in-cheek)?I knew of several individuals/probable councillors/future MPs working in the councils in the late 80's abusing council facilities and privileges eg stationery,

Cardiff City are arranging the flight, Prince Philip is picking her up at the airport, The McCann's have agreed to adopt the baby, and Dianne Abbott is organising the logistics.

Plans are already in place to bring Shamima Begum back. Cardiff City are arranging the flight, Prince Philip is picking her up at the airport, The McCann's have agreed to adopt the baby, and Dianne Abbott is organising the logistics.

Speaking to The Mail on Sunday, Ahmed Ali, 60, Shamima’s, dad said that he backs the Home Secretary Sajid Javid’s decision to strip his daughter of her British citizenship. He said: “I know they [the British Government] don’t want to take her back, and in this I don’t have a problem.

“I know she is stuck there [in Syria] but that’s because she has done actions that made her get stuck like this.”His comments come in stark contrast to that of Begum’s British-based relatives who are calling for her to be allowed to return to the UK.Mr Ali added: “I am on the side of the Government.

“I can’t say whether it is right or wrong, but if the law of the land says that it is correct to cancel her citizenship, then I agree.”The Mail on Sunday tracked down Mr Ali last week at his home in the Sunamganj region of north-east Bangladesh.

The retired tailor came to Britain in 1975, marrying Begum’s mother, Asma, seven years later. They settled in Bethnal Green, east London, and had four daughters, but from the mid- 1990s he started to split his time between Britain and Bangladesh, where he married a second wife.He last saw his youngest daughter when he visited the UK two months before she fled to Syria with school friends Kadiza Sultana and Amira Abase in March 2015.

Speaking to The Mail on Sunday, Ahmed Ali, 60, Shamima’s, dad said that he backs the Home Secretary Sajid Javid’s decision to strip his daughter of her British citizenship. He said: “I know they [the British Government] don’t want to take her

Plans are already in place to bring Shamima Begum back. Cardiff City are arranging the flight, Prince Philip is picking her up at the airport, The McCann's have agreed to adopt the baby, and Dianne Abbott is organising the logistics.

By all accounts the girls were raised in a closed, claustrophobic world where they were denied the self-expression and freedom that comes naturally to western teenagers.All their choices, from their career path to their choice of husband, are dictated by their parents. That is a culture I know only too well from my own upbringing in Nottinghamshire.I was lucky. My father was enlightened and valued education and independence for women, above everything. Yet even so, he still expected I would marry someone from my family’s village in Pakistan.

That is the point the author or this article SAIRA KHAN

These girls may well have seen running off to join ISIS as just a romantic adventure.

They probably had no real idea of the evil of ISIS.

Because they had not been allowed enough contact with the real world to make a more informed choice.

I think the school giving a letter for the parents to the girls was very silly. They should have delivered

it themselves or sent it straight to the parents.

Should we take her back? well it depends on her state of mind.

Is she now radicalised to ISIS or just wishes to return home to live a normal life?

I have no idea myself

Ta Saddo...he should have told them that.The link I foundBy all accounts the girls were raised in a closed, claustrophobic world where they were denied the self-expression and freedom that comes naturally to western teenagers.All their choices, from

The letter the school gave the girls to deliver to her parents....said a Muslim schoolgirl had already run off

to join ISIS and they should watch their own children. The parents never received this, but the girls must have

thought that sounds great, we will do the same.

The letter the school gave the girls to deliver to her parents....said a Muslim schoolgirl had already run offto join ISIS and they should watch their own children. The parents never received this, but the girls must havethought that sounds great, we

Hand wringing Labour woman (Eagle, the one with that irritating voice) and the BBC seem annoyed that this scumbags face is being used as a target in an airsoft shooting range. They use other faces as well, like Trump. Can't remember Labour or the BBC being annoyed about that, I'm sure they find THAT heartily amusing and appropriate..

Hand wringing Labour woman (Eagle, the one with that irritating voice) and the BBC seem annoyed that this scumbags face is being used as a target in an airsoft shooting range. They use other faces as well, like Trump. Can't remember Labour or the BBC

Whoever was behind this have had their fare share of publicity and drama. The public seems to have moved on too, or is the media in England still covering this? Most of the news items on Google are a week old so doens't seem to be much activity on the issue.

As i kept saying, it was a very simple legal matter but the politicians grabbed it as an opportunity to play on public emotions and kept them busy. This happens every single time, yet the public never realizes both media/politicians are playing them. And then everybody conveniently moves to the next issue.

Whoever was behind this have had their fare share of publicity and drama. The public seems to have moved on too, or is the media in England still covering this? Most of the news items on Google are a week old so doens't seem to be much activity on th

The Dutch-born Jihadist who married the 'Jihadist Schoolgirl' now wants to live back in Holland with her and their latest baby. They clearly want to live the EU Dream and be part of The Freedom of Movement of Terrorists.

Interestingly, we learn in this interview that he married her BEFORE her 16th birthday, and clearly didn't waste much time impregnating her, given that they have reportedly lost two babies already during their Romance of the Century. He's clearly a chip off the ancient block. If they can't settle in Holland, I'm sure he'll fit in a treat in Rochdale, Rotherham, Telford and all the other places on the Bingo card.

The Dutch-born Jihadist who married the 'Jihadist Schoolgirl' now wants to live back in Holland with her and their latest baby. They clearly want to live the EU Dream and be part of The Freedom of Movement of Terrorists. Interestingly, we learn in th

Sounds a good idea to me, at least she is not in this country, and he is her husband

It is believed that Begum and Riedijk fled Baghouz, the group’s last foothold in eastern Syria, as its territory collapsed in recent months.

Their belief in ISIS seems to have declined with ISIS fortunes.

Sounds a good idea to me, at least she is not in this country, and he is her husbandIt is believed that Begum and Riedijk fled Baghouz, the group’s last foothold in eastern Syria, as its territory collapsed in recent months.Their belief in ISIS see

Sounds a good idea to me, at least she is not in this country, and he is her husband

It is believed that Begum and Riedijk fled Baghouz, the group’s last foothold in eastern Syria, as its territory collapsed in recent months.

Their belief in ISIS seems to have declined with ISIS fortunes.

Sounds a good idea to me, at least she is not in this country, and he is her husbandIt is believed that Begum and Riedijk fled Baghouz, the group’s last foothold in eastern Syria, as its territory collapsed in recent months.Their belief in ISIS see

He was interviewed on the BBC News this lunchtime in all his gormless glory. The happy couple deserve each other quite honestly. Preferably not in Europe though for the rest of us.

I say "interview". It was more a cosy chat. He would have been given a much harder time had he done something that a Lefty would (pretend to) find "offensive", such as uttering the completely meaningless phrase "Bongo Bongo Land".

He was interviewed on the BBC News this lunchtime in all his gormless glory. The happy couple deserve each other quite honestly. Preferably not in Europe though for the rest of us. I say "interview". It was more a cosy chat. He would have been given

What a munter, he says he didn't want to marry her because she was too young, aye, right saddo

He was happy enough to give her three kids

oh no lfc1971, they should let him back, he can take Begima back off us then

What a munter, he says he didn't want to marry her because she was too young, aye, right saddoHe was happy enough to give her three kidsoh no lfc1971, they should let him back, he can take Begima back off us then

Well some of you, well ashley all of you will be disgusted by the latest news.

She, her baby and her paedo husband were invited back to the UK and offered Council Accommodation

in Rhyl

But they declined and said they would prefer to be where they were than live in Rhyl!

Well some of you, well ashley all of you will be disgusted by the latest news.She, her baby and her paedo husband were invited back to the UK and offered Council Accommodation in RhylBut they declined and said they would prefer to be where they were

News reports suggesting that her THIRD child has also died. A minute's silence at all football/rugby grounds and racetracks tomorrow for this "British citizen" ? .https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/mar/08/shamima-begums-child-reported-to-have-d

'Meanwhile, the paramedic, working for the Kurdish Red Crescent in and around the camp, said the baby had been suffering from breathing difficulties.He was taken to a doctor on Thursday morning before being transferred to hospital, along with his mother, but died at 13:30 local time that day, the medical worker added.The paramedic said both Ms Begum and her baby were taken back to the camp for burial.'

Seems a bit harsh.

BBC'Meanwhile, the paramedic, working for the Kurdish Red Crescent in and around the camp, said the baby had been suffering from breathing difficulties.He was taken to a doctor on Thursday morning before being transferred to hospital, along with his

She and all the other Islamists should be clearing land mines and all the booby traps left behind ,not one allied life should be lost clearing up ,the Kurds should be rewarded with land and any British passport holders found to have fought for Isis should have their passports cancelled and a genuine refugee given their place ,personally would tip the family out as well ,get them out ,scum ,anyone who believes anything from media sources about this story is a mug ,where are the pictures of this baby ? Or the other babies ? I have my doubts ,this story is a media play thing ,I doubt it’s authenticity but keep an open mind but it’s a story I have had forced on me continually ,did not want to comment but sick of it ,media bending reality ,Fock emm

She and all the other Islamists should be clearing land mines and all the booby traps left behind ,not one allied life should be lost clearing up ,the Kurds should be rewarded with land and any British passport holders found to have fought for Isis s

The Guardian reports that DIANE ABBOTT claims the death of Jihadist Begum's latest baby is the fault of the UK Government. "A stain on the conscience" no less. Ye Gods, where is Head In Hands Man ? Even by her standards this is a shocker. .https://w

The Chaps of the book are all for young Girls starting the family tradition early

Once a few have been knocked out they are then taken up the council .

THREE children by the age of 19. Is this a record?I would say far From it Alun The Chaps of the book are all for young Girls starting the family tradition early Once a few have been knocked out they are then taken up the council .

Been granted Legal aid :(, thought that was only for British Citizens which I was led to believe she wasn't anymore :(, will run into the £100,000's no doubt, lining the pockets of her bearded lawyers no doubt :( Seems the Legal aid folks have more power than our Home Secretary :(

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47934721

Been granted Legal aid :(, thought that was only for British Citizens which I was led to believe she wasn't anymore :(, will run into the £100,000's no doubt, lining the pockets of her bearded lawyers no doubt :( Seems the Legal aid folks have more

Ironically 30 years ago today 96 Liverpool supporters lost their lives at Hillsborough and in seeking truth and justice the families of those 96 victims were denied legal aid .Isn't it good to know how far this country has come with regard to granting such benefits to its loyal citizens

Ironically 30 years ago today 96 Liverpool supporters lost their lives at Hillsborough and in seeking truth and justice the families of those 96 victims were denied legal aid .Isn't it good to know how far this country has come with regard to grantin

Jezza comes out with there should be No Judgement Outside a Court. WAC the Man is ,What Court did his ISIS friends refer to when Beheading innocent people ,Or does he agree with Shariah courts ? God forgive this Man and his mob ever gets into power,absolutely scandalous a Treacherous character of the Highest order .

Jezza comes out with there should be No Judgement Outside a Court. WAC the Man is ,What Court did his ISIS friends refer to when Beheading innocent people ,Or does he agree with Shariah courts ? God forgive this Man and his mob ever gets into power

Been granted Legal aid :(, thought that was only for British Citizens which I was led to believe she wasn't anymore :(, will run into the £100,000's no doubt, lining the pockets of her bearded lawyers no doubt :( Seems the Legal aid folks have more power than our Home Secretary :(https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47934721

It was pretty clear sajid played his cards perfectly getting the public sympathy on his side. What he did was legally wrong. The only reason he got away with it was because it was something the public desperately wanted to hear.

I am surprised this issue wasn't bumped during the Brexit trouble. Would have been a great distraction.

It was pretty clear sajid played his cards perfectly getting the public sympathy on his side. What he did was legally wrong. The only reason he got away with it was because it was something the public desperately wanted to hear.I am surprised this is

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