this is great!! who made this thing!!? it helps you see where would be a good spot for some over 500ft buildings, the area between Park ave and 6th below Rockefeller could use a few 500+ footers, and alot more between 42 st and the empire state building would fill the gaps great!

amigo32

December 9th, 2002, 07:20 PM

I just love these maps and models that you post Just Rich!!!

NoyokA

December 9th, 2002, 08:33 PM

second that, all fantastic.

TLOZ Link5

December 10th, 2002, 05:49 PM

Interesting, and quite cool, but a bit unsettling. *New York flooded...it's been a week since I watched AI and the scene of a flooded Manhattan still really creeps me out...

chris

December 11th, 2002, 12:59 AM

Yes, there is an article I just read today in the new issue of Metropolis about NYC underwater. The post-ice-cap-melted-NYC-meme is busy at work.

Did this skyline model come from Urban Data Solutions (http://www.u-data.com/)? It looks like one of thiers. Regardless, how did you get hold of it.... unless "just rich" refers to something other than your name? I understand that the full Manhattan map from Urban Data can cost tens of thousands to license.

http://www.u-data.com/images/aboutuds1.jpg

(Edited by chris at 1:03 am on Dec. 11, 2002)

NYatKNIGHT

December 11th, 2002, 09:48 AM

Another cool map!

Ptarmigan

December 12th, 2002, 06:36 PM

Cool 3D view of Manhattan. I am wondering where they got all the height data for those buildings besides the highrises of course. I am working on a large and detailed New York model.

amigo32

December 13th, 2002, 01:56 AM

There are various websites, but I think Chris hit on it. *You would probably have to go through a private company, or a city agency. *I've tried forever here in KC, the city won't give anything up, so if I want that info bad enough I would have to pay a 3-D imaging/graphics company.

tomkarlo

December 26th, 2002, 05:35 PM

Quote: from yanni111 on 4:07 pm on Dec. 9, 2002
this is great!! who made this thing!!? it helps you see where would be a good spot for some over 500ft buildings, the area between Park ave and 6th below Rockefeller could use a few 500+ footers, and alot more between 42 st and the empire state building would fill the gaps great!

Those gaps are largely due to underlying geography -- how far you have to dig to put a skyscraper directly on the underlying bedrock... where the rock is nearer to the surface, you find larger buildings, so the skyline of manhattan mirrors the profile of the rock underneath it.

Eugenius

December 27th, 2002, 10:11 AM

Although it's hard to believe that there is not a single spot within 5 blocks of ESB where a tall building could go. *The fact of the matter is that the area around ESB is not all that popular among the business community, so an office building there could not get the rents available on Park Avenue, for example.

Zoe

December 27th, 2002, 10:35 AM

Speaking of buildings within 5 blocks of the ESB, there is a new 35 story residential building going up right next to it. *It is on 33rd street right next to the loading bay of the ESB. *Given the height of this new building and the fact that it is being built right next to the ESB, I think will slightly change the appearance of the building forever.

chris

December 31st, 2002, 04:40 AM

35 stories... and at residential floor heights, should at best only be about 1/3 *of ESB's height. plus, 33rd street entrance is the back... the main entrance is technically the 5th Avenue entrance. When shown from the broad side with downtown in the background (as it usually is in photographs) the new building would be entirely obscured behind the ESB. It would only be visible in the lower left corner of the building when seen from further downtown looking North with midtown behind it.

chris

December 31st, 2002, 04:47 AM

I just hope it's not some obnoxious post-modernist embarassment that, by its sheer proximity to the ESB suddenly becomes a widely photographed architectural representative of New York due to its mere proximity to the ESB (I.E. in lots of photographs with the ESB, but not for its own sake)... Who is the architect?

Rich Battista

January 2nd, 2003, 12:40 AM

hey, its cool to see what is going to happen whenever the polar icecaps melt away