Owner pleads for dog's life after savage attacks

That is the plea from the owner of a dog which faces being put down, after carrying out a series of savage attacks in Southampton.

Paul Ward, who has owned Japanese Akita cross-breed, Samson, for eight years, said he was “very upset” about the incidents, which saw a victim as young as four years old bitten by the dog.

But Mr Ward, 50, of Laundry Road, in Shirley Warren, said the 14-stone animal is no longer a danger to the public and should not
face the death penalty.

He is now living in a house with his pet and does not allow it to come into contact with members of the public.

He has even erected a 6ft metal fence around the garden to prevent Samson from getting out.

As reported in the Daily Echo, Mr Ward was living in a caravan in Chilworth, with his step-daughter, Katie Ward, 17, when the attacks happened. He had been evicted from his home, in Honeysuckle
Road in December 2010.

“I’m very upset that this happened, but in my defence I did what I could,” Paul said.

“I put fencing up around the caravan myself and I was there 23 out of 24 hours a day with him. The only time I left him was to give my step-daughter a lift to and from work.

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“We’ve had the dog since he was a puppy and he had never been a problem until then.

“He’s been well looked after, he’s been calm and he’s never tried to get out of the garden.

“I am a responsible dog owner and now that we are back in a house, he is not a danger at all.

“I will make sure this does not happen again.”

Southampton Crown Court heard how Samson faces being put down, after a t t a c k i n g three members of the public.

Bailiff Timothy Walker, 62, needed 37 stitches after being mauled when he attempted to evict Mr Ward from outside Chilworth Science Park, in February 2011.

And after pitching up on grass verge in Bracken Place, Chilworth, the following month, 17-year-old student Harry Barron was bitten on the hand.

Mr Ward said he would be “devastated” if Samson was put down.

“That would be so hard to deal with because Samson doesn’t deserve to die,” he added.

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Comments (40)

Try telling that to the parents of the children this animal has attacked. Wall is irresponsible for not training his dog properly. Sadly the dog has to go.

Try telling that to the parents of the children this animal has attacked. Wall is irresponsible for not training his dog properly. Sadly the dog has to go.Condor Man

Try telling that to the parents of the children this animal has attacked. Wall is irresponsible for not training his dog properly. Sadly the dog has to go.

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Stillness says...4:36pm Sun 29 Jan 12

Perhaps someone could check the accuracy of the scales? 14 stone! The breed standard is a maximum of just over 9 so what on earth was the other dog in the cross?

Perhaps someone could check the accuracy of the scales? 14 stone! The breed standard is a maximum of just over 9 so what on earth was the other dog in the cross?Stillness

Perhaps someone could check the accuracy of the scales? 14 stone! The breed standard is a maximum of just over 9 so what on earth was the other dog in the cross?

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TEBOURBA says...4:38pm Sun 29 Jan 12

There are no bad dogs only bad owners.

There are no bad dogs only bad owners.TEBOURBA

There are no bad dogs only bad owners.

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Stillness says...4:44pm Sun 29 Jan 12

TEBOURBA wrote…

There are no bad dogs only bad owners.

You may be right, depends on your definition of good. Dogs tend to be good at being dogs, tree frogs tend to be good at being tree frogs and some humans think that they will be good at owning a dog. But there are most definitely dogs that need to be controlled. Not unlike a lot of humans.

[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote:
There are no bad dogs only bad owners.[/p][/quote]You may be right, depends on your definition of good. Dogs tend to be good at being dogs, tree frogs tend to be good at being tree frogs and some humans think that they will be good at owning a dog. But there are most definitely dogs that need to be controlled. Not unlike a lot of humans.Stillness

TEBOURBA wrote…

There are no bad dogs only bad owners.

You may be right, depends on your definition of good. Dogs tend to be good at being dogs, tree frogs tend to be good at being tree frogs and some humans think that they will be good at owning a dog. But there are most definitely dogs that need to be controlled. Not unlike a lot of humans.

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Maine Lobster says...4:45pm Sun 29 Jan 12

Any dog responsible for a serious injury should be put down. This animal has committed four such attacks and should have been dealt with on the first occasion.

Any dog responsible for a serious injury should be put down. This animal has committed four such attacks and should have been dealt with on the first occasion.Maine Lobster

Any dog responsible for a serious injury should be put down. This animal has committed four such attacks and should have been dealt with on the first occasion.

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Stillness says...4:48pm Sun 29 Jan 12

Maine Lobster wrote…

Any dog responsible for a serious injury should be put down. This animal has committed four such attacks and should have been dealt with on the first occasion.

Ahhh........and what about if "any dog" was protecting his owner from burglars when it caused said serious injury?

[quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote:
Any dog responsible for a serious injury should be put down. This animal has committed four such attacks and should have been dealt with on the first occasion.[/p][/quote]Ahhh........and what about if "any dog" was protecting his owner from burglars when it caused said serious injury?Stillness

Maine Lobster wrote…

Any dog responsible for a serious injury should be put down. This animal has committed four such attacks and should have been dealt with on the first occasion.

Ahhh........and what about if "any dog" was protecting his owner from burglars when it caused said serious injury?

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Lord Swood says...5:30pm Sun 29 Jan 12

The owner said he did "all he could", but why didn't he muzzle the dog after the first attack?

The owner said he did "all he could", but why didn't he muzzle the dog after the first attack?Lord Swood

The owner said he did "all he could", but why didn't he muzzle the dog after the first attack?

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Torchie1 says...5:38pm Sun 29 Jan 12

Lord Swood wrote…

The owner said he did "all he could", but why didn't he muzzle the dog after the first attack?

I think a muzzle would have affected the owners standing on the 'hardness' scale.

[quote][p][bold]Lord Swood[/bold] wrote:
The owner said he did "all he could", but why didn't he muzzle the dog after the first attack?[/p][/quote]I think a muzzle would have affected the owners standing on the 'hardness' scale.Torchie1

Lord Swood wrote…

The owner said he did "all he could", but why didn't he muzzle the dog after the first attack?

I think a muzzle would have affected the owners standing on the 'hardness' scale.

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Peters567 says...6:13pm Sun 29 Jan 12

This type of dog is csubject to "dangerous dog" legislation in some countries. If cross bred, as this one appears to be, they can be especially dangerous. With a name like 'Sampson' this dog is a 'trophy' dog, intended to scare others. I agree with others on here. Put the dog down before it kills someone.

This type of dog is csubject to "dangerous dog" legislation in some countries.
If cross bred, as this one appears to be, they can be especially dangerous.
With a name like 'Sampson' this dog is a 'trophy' dog, intended to scare others.
I agree with others on here. Put the dog down before it kills someone.Peters567

This type of dog is csubject to "dangerous dog" legislation in some countries. If cross bred, as this one appears to be, they can be especially dangerous. With a name like 'Sampson' this dog is a 'trophy' dog, intended to scare others. I agree with others on here. Put the dog down before it kills someone.

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No_Fuss says...6:18pm Sun 29 Jan 12

Have to Say before leaving comments about 'save the dog' Jusy think if that was your child.....sorry I wouldn't take the risk and allow it NOT be put down.... KILL IT !!!!!

Have to Say before leaving comments about 'save the dog' Jusy think if that was your child.....sorry I wouldn't take the risk and allow it NOT be put down.... KILL IT !!!!!No_Fuss

Have to Say before leaving comments about 'save the dog' Jusy think if that was your child.....sorry I wouldn't take the risk and allow it NOT be put down.... KILL IT !!!!!

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Young Greybeard says...6:23pm Sun 29 Jan 12

Surely it is not being a responsible owner to keep a dog of that size shut up in a house with only a small back garden for exercise? Sorry but it has attacked three people in separate incidents now, is anyone prepared to take a chance that the dogs next 'victim' will survive? As a dog owner myself I say it has to go. As far as I am concerned 'one strike' is too many, let alone three.

Surely it is not being a responsible owner to keep a dog of that size shut up in a house with only a small back garden for exercise?
Sorry but it has attacked three people in separate incidents now, is anyone prepared to take a chance that the dogs next 'victim' will survive?
As a dog owner myself I say it has to go. As far as I am concerned 'one strike' is too many, let alone three.Young Greybeard

Surely it is not being a responsible owner to keep a dog of that size shut up in a house with only a small back garden for exercise? Sorry but it has attacked three people in separate incidents now, is anyone prepared to take a chance that the dogs next 'victim' will survive? As a dog owner myself I say it has to go. As far as I am concerned 'one strike' is too many, let alone three.

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Vix1 says...6:31pm Sun 29 Jan 12

I say put the owner down! It cannot be the dog's fault, it is a dog and has no knowledge of right or wrong. Destroy it?? No, it caused harm to people but I don't agree with it's destruction and yes, I would still feel this way if it was myself or a member of my family who had been harmed. It is never the animals fault. Unlike people they have no conscience (then again neither do some humans!!). The dog should be homed with people who can care for it properly and contain it appropriately.

I say put the owner down! It cannot be the dog's fault, it is a dog and has no knowledge of right or wrong. Destroy it?? No, it caused harm to people but I don't agree with it's destruction and yes, I would still feel this way if it was myself or a member of my family who had been harmed. It is never the animals fault. Unlike people they have no conscience (then again neither do some humans!!). The dog should be homed with people who can care for it properly and contain it appropriately.Vix1

I say put the owner down! It cannot be the dog's fault, it is a dog and has no knowledge of right or wrong. Destroy it?? No, it caused harm to people but I don't agree with it's destruction and yes, I would still feel this way if it was myself or a member of my family who had been harmed. It is never the animals fault. Unlike people they have no conscience (then again neither do some humans!!). The dog should be homed with people who can care for it properly and contain it appropriately.

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Harry Hill says...6:43pm Sun 29 Jan 12

“He doesn’t deserve to die.” Did they deserve to be bitten ?

“He doesn’t deserve to die.”
Did they deserve to be bitten ?Harry Hill

“He doesn’t deserve to die.” Did they deserve to be bitten ?

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Stillness says...7:03pm Sun 29 Jan 12

Harry Hill wrote…

“He doesn’t deserve to die.” Did they deserve to be bitten ?

No, and no.

[quote][p][bold]Harry Hill[/bold] wrote:
“He doesn’t deserve to die.”
Did they deserve to be bitten ?[/p][/quote]No, and no.Stillness

Harry Hill wrote…

“He doesn’t deserve to die.” Did they deserve to be bitten ?

No, and no.

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Raven 81 says...7:39pm Sun 29 Jan 12

Unfortunately some breeds they cannot legally re home, which is such a shame as with more responsible owners this dog may be prevented from attacking again. The poor dog is only doing what it has been trained to do but in my opinion it is better he is put to sleep (bearing in mind he will literally just go to sleep after an injection) than a child or another dog dies because it is torn to pieces.

Unfortunately some breeds they cannot legally re home, which is such a shame as with more responsible owners this dog may be prevented from attacking again.
The poor dog is only doing what it has been trained to do but in my opinion it is better he is put to sleep (bearing in mind he will literally just go to sleep after an injection) than a child or another dog dies because it is torn to pieces.Raven 81

Unfortunately some breeds they cannot legally re home, which is such a shame as with more responsible owners this dog may be prevented from attacking again. The poor dog is only doing what it has been trained to do but in my opinion it is better he is put to sleep (bearing in mind he will literally just go to sleep after an injection) than a child or another dog dies because it is torn to pieces.

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andysaints007 says...8:19pm Sun 29 Jan 12

TEBOURBA wrote…

There are no bad dogs only bad owners.

OMG what an idiot you really are !!!

[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote:
There are no bad dogs only bad owners.[/p][/quote]OMG what an idiot you really are !!!andysaints007

TEBOURBA wrote…

There are no bad dogs only bad owners.

OMG what an idiot you really are !!!

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Stillness says...8:31pm Sun 29 Jan 12

Torchie1 wrote…

Lord Swood wrote…

The owner said he did "all he could", but why didn't he muzzle the dog after the first attack?

I think a muzzle would have affected the owners standing on the 'hardness' scale.

Is that on your "hardness scale" then?

[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Lord Swood[/bold] wrote:
The owner said he did "all he could", but why didn't he muzzle the dog after the first attack?[/p][/quote]I think a muzzle would have affected the owners standing on the 'hardness' scale.[/p][/quote]Is that on your "hardness scale" then?Stillness

Torchie1 wrote…

Lord Swood wrote…

The owner said he did "all he could", but why didn't he muzzle the dog after the first attack?

I think a muzzle would have affected the owners standing on the 'hardness' scale.

Is that on your "hardness scale" then?

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egghead65 says...9:04pm Sun 29 Jan 12

dont give it any more chances.put it down,

dont give it any more chances.put it down,egghead65

dont give it any more chances.put it down,

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Stillness says...9:07pm Sun 29 Jan 12

egghead65 wrote…

dont give it any more chances.put it down,

Don't give it any more chances. Keep it under control.

[quote][p][bold]egghead65[/bold] wrote:
dont give it any more chances.put it down,[/p][/quote]Don't give it any more chances. Keep it under control.Stillness

And this is the dog's fault how???? Why does the dog get punished for acting on instinct when the owner gets away with not looking after him properly?? Having seen my cat pass away by being put to sleep due to suffering in old age, I could NEVER advocate that to happen to a healthy animal, pets trust their owners more than anyone. The owner failed the dog, not the other way round!!

[quote][p][bold]Peters567[/bold] wrote:
This breed of dog is classified as a FIGHTING DOG.[/p][/quote]And this is the dog's fault how???? Why does the dog get punished for acting on instinct when the owner gets away with not looking after him properly?? Having seen my cat pass away by being put to sleep due to suffering in old age, I could NEVER advocate that to happen to a healthy animal, pets trust their owners more than anyone. The owner failed the dog, not the other way round!!Vix1

Peters567 wrote…

This breed of dog is classified as a FIGHTING DOG.

And this is the dog's fault how???? Why does the dog get punished for acting on instinct when the owner gets away with not looking after him properly?? Having seen my cat pass away by being put to sleep due to suffering in old age, I could NEVER advocate that to happen to a healthy animal, pets trust their owners more than anyone. The owner failed the dog, not the other way round!!

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Huffter says...10:29pm Sun 29 Jan 12

People shouldn't keep animals as pets.

People shouldn't keep animals as pets.Huffter

People shouldn't keep animals as pets.

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tennisaint says...11:09pm Sun 29 Jan 12

Why can't we have a licence ex amount of pounds which would include a muzzle which should be worn when they take the dog out anywhere near the public. The muzzles do not stop them drinking but they cannot bite anyone . Dogs can change as they get older and will become prone to bite. The Licence would help to help to train owners not always the dogs. Come on Echo that's have a movement to get our MPs to debate this in the commons.

Why can't we have a licence ex amount of pounds which would include a muzzle which should be worn when they take the dog out anywhere near the public. The muzzles do not stop them drinking but they cannot bite anyone . Dogs can change as they get older and will become prone to bite. The Licence would help to help to train owners not always the dogs. Come on Echo that's have a movement to get our MPs to debate this in the commons.tennisaint

Why can't we have a licence ex amount of pounds which would include a muzzle which should be worn when they take the dog out anywhere near the public. The muzzles do not stop them drinking but they cannot bite anyone . Dogs can change as they get older and will become prone to bite. The Licence would help to help to train owners not always the dogs. Come on Echo that's have a movement to get our MPs to debate this in the commons.

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freefinker says...11:22pm Sun 29 Jan 12

Vix1 wrote…

Peters567 wrote…

This breed of dog is classified as a FIGHTING DOG.

And this is the dog's fault how???? Why does the dog get punished for acting on instinct when the owner gets away with not looking after him properly?? Having seen my cat pass away by being put to sleep due to suffering in old age, I could NEVER advocate that to happen to a healthy animal, pets trust their owners more than anyone. The owner failed the dog, not the other way round!!

.. Q - 'Why does the dog get punished for acting on instinct'? .. A - Because it has a track record of attacks.

[quote][p][bold]Vix1[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Peters567[/bold] wrote:
This breed of dog is classified as a FIGHTING DOG.[/p][/quote]And this is the dog's fault how???? Why does the dog get punished for acting on instinct when the owner gets away with not looking after him properly?? Having seen my cat pass away by being put to sleep due to suffering in old age, I could NEVER advocate that to happen to a healthy animal, pets trust their owners more than anyone. The owner failed the dog, not the other way round!![/p][/quote].. Q - 'Why does the dog get punished for acting on instinct'?
.. A - Because it has a track record of attacks.freefinker

Vix1 wrote…

Peters567 wrote…

This breed of dog is classified as a FIGHTING DOG.

And this is the dog's fault how???? Why does the dog get punished for acting on instinct when the owner gets away with not looking after him properly?? Having seen my cat pass away by being put to sleep due to suffering in old age, I could NEVER advocate that to happen to a healthy animal, pets trust their owners more than anyone. The owner failed the dog, not the other way round!!

.. Q - 'Why does the dog get punished for acting on instinct'? .. A - Because it has a track record of attacks.

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freefinker says...11:30pm Sun 29 Jan 12

Huffter wrote…

People shouldn't keep animals as pets.

.. well said. Working country dogs I can understand. That's why we domesticated them in the first place. 'Pet' dogs, no thank you. Urban environments and our own lifestyles means their natural instincts are compromised to an extent that is little short of cruelty.

[quote][p][bold]Huffter[/bold] wrote:
People shouldn't keep animals as pets.[/p][/quote].. well said.
Working country dogs I can understand. That's why we domesticated them in the first place.
'Pet' dogs, no thank you. Urban environments and our own lifestyles means their natural instincts are compromised to an extent that is little short of cruelty.freefinker

Huffter wrote…

People shouldn't keep animals as pets.

.. well said. Working country dogs I can understand. That's why we domesticated them in the first place. 'Pet' dogs, no thank you. Urban environments and our own lifestyles means their natural instincts are compromised to an extent that is little short of cruelty.

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Torchie1 says...12:43am Mon 30 Jan 12

Stillness wrote…

Torchie1 wrote…

Lord Swood wrote…

The owner said he did "all he could", but why didn't he muzzle the dog after the first attack?

I think a muzzle would have affected the owners standing on the 'hardness' scale.

Is that on your "hardness scale" then?

I think you'll find it a fairly standard measurement on any rundown council estate. Try not to shoot the messenger.

[quote][p][bold]Stillness[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Lord Swood[/bold] wrote:
The owner said he did "all he could", but why didn't he muzzle the dog after the first attack?[/p][/quote]I think a muzzle would have affected the owners standing on the 'hardness' scale.[/p][/quote]Is that on your "hardness scale" then?[/p][/quote]I think you'll find it a fairly standard measurement on any rundown council estate. Try not to shoot the messenger.Torchie1

Stillness wrote…

Torchie1 wrote…

Lord Swood wrote…

The owner said he did "all he could", but why didn't he muzzle the dog after the first attack?

I think a muzzle would have affected the owners standing on the 'hardness' scale.

Is that on your "hardness scale" then?

I think you'll find it a fairly standard measurement on any rundown council estate. Try not to shoot the messenger.

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Turtlebay says...6:32am Mon 30 Jan 12

Poor doggy. But if it can't be trained to not bite people then it must be put to sleep.

Poor doggy. But if it can't be trained to not bite people then it must be put to sleep.Turtlebay

Poor doggy. But if it can't be trained to not bite people then it must be put to sleep.

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bravebeth says...6:34am Mon 30 Jan 12

The dog has attacked three people - it has had its three chances. The owner should be ordered to do community work in a hospital.

The dog has attacked three people - it has had its three chances. The owner should be ordered to do community work in a hospital.bravebeth

The dog has attacked three people - it has had its three chances. The owner should be ordered to do community work in a hospital.

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chapellady says...6:46am Mon 30 Jan 12

Sadly like many people out there, they get large dogs and do not train them or give them adequate exercise and keep them couped up in a small enclosure. The animal is like a ticking time bomb and although the dog is an innocent victim as much as the injured person, the risk of someone being killed or seriously injured has to be the main concern. Sadly the dog must go.

Sadly like many people out there, they get large dogs and do not train them or give them adequate exercise and keep them couped up in a small enclosure. The animal is like a ticking time bomb and although the dog is an innocent victim as much as the injured person, the risk of someone being killed or seriously injured has to be the main concern. Sadly the dog must go.chapellady

Sadly like many people out there, they get large dogs and do not train them or give them adequate exercise and keep them couped up in a small enclosure. The animal is like a ticking time bomb and although the dog is an innocent victim as much as the injured person, the risk of someone being killed or seriously injured has to be the main concern. Sadly the dog must go.

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Ellwood says...8:06am Mon 30 Jan 12

........... whenever this subject gets an airing, it becomes patently obvious....(judging by some of the comments) that it's not only canines that slaver!

........... whenever this subject gets an airing, it becomes patently obvious....(judging by some of the comments) that it's not only canines that slaver!Ellwood

........... whenever this subject gets an airing, it becomes patently obvious....(judging by some of the comments) that it's not only canines that slaver!

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jazzi says...9:05am Mon 30 Jan 12

I have 2 german shepherds, the male is fine with anyone in I let into our home, but if anyone comes onto the property UNINVITED he will shout like a banshee and scare the frig out of you. He has never bitten anyone YET !! He is muzzled as he is overly vocal and scares people on walks, But he has never bitten anyone yet !! ONLY ONCE did he run at a stranger on a walk and bark him into a corner, So muzzled, kept on leash etc. When away in a caravan he is tethered and muzzled. I do not want my dog to bite anyone, his instincts are to protect, he does this well enough without using his teeth. I agree the dog should be put to sleep, 37 stitches etc 4 times, cmon !!!! The owner should also be banned from keeping animals. If i was made homeless, id ensure my dog was fostered or kennelled !!

I have 2 german shepherds, the male is fine with anyone in I let into our home, but if anyone comes onto the property UNINVITED he will shout like a banshee and scare the frig out of you. He has never bitten anyone YET !! He is muzzled as he is overly vocal and scares people on walks, But he has never bitten anyone yet !! ONLY ONCE did he run at a stranger on a walk and bark him into a corner, So muzzled, kept on leash etc. When away in a caravan he is tethered and muzzled. I do not want my dog to bite anyone, his instincts are to protect, he does this well enough without using his teeth.
I agree the dog should be put to sleep, 37 stitches etc 4 times, cmon !!!! The owner should also be banned from keeping animals.
If i was made homeless, id ensure my dog was fostered or kennelled !!jazzi

I have 2 german shepherds, the male is fine with anyone in I let into our home, but if anyone comes onto the property UNINVITED he will shout like a banshee and scare the frig out of you. He has never bitten anyone YET !! He is muzzled as he is overly vocal and scares people on walks, But he has never bitten anyone yet !! ONLY ONCE did he run at a stranger on a walk and bark him into a corner, So muzzled, kept on leash etc. When away in a caravan he is tethered and muzzled. I do not want my dog to bite anyone, his instincts are to protect, he does this well enough without using his teeth. I agree the dog should be put to sleep, 37 stitches etc 4 times, cmon !!!! The owner should also be banned from keeping animals. If i was made homeless, id ensure my dog was fostered or kennelled !!

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tennisaint says...9:18am Mon 30 Jan 12

THAT'S HAVE MUZZLE MUST BE WORN ACROSS THE COUNTRY LAW THAT WILL SOLVE THE PROBLEM UNTIL WE CAN TRAIN THE OWNERS

THAT'S HAVE MUZZLE MUST BE WORN ACROSS THE COUNTRY LAW THAT WILL SOLVE THE PROBLEM UNTIL WE CAN TRAIN THE OWNERStennisaint

THAT'S HAVE MUZZLE MUST BE WORN ACROSS THE COUNTRY LAW THAT WILL SOLVE THE PROBLEM UNTIL WE CAN TRAIN THE OWNERS

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Raxx says...10:01am Mon 30 Jan 12

KILL EVERYTHING!!! BLOOD!!! GIVE ME BLOOOOOD!!! *sigh*

KILL EVERYTHING!!! BLOOD!!! GIVE ME BLOOOOOD!!!
*sigh*Raxx

KILL EVERYTHING!!! BLOOD!!! GIVE ME BLOOOOOD!!! *sigh*

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badengk1 says...10:12am Mon 30 Jan 12

Sounds like the dog has had enough chances. If a human attacked a child, we'd all say bang them up for years. If there was a way of having a doggy jail where they spend their lives in then do that. I know that isnt a realsitic option so putting him down is the only way. The only person who will miss the dog is the owner and he is partly responsible for the attacks happening. He should never be allowed to have dogs again. And on the topic of bad dog owners... Pick up your dog poo. there are so many good dog owners but you shockingly poor dog owners who dont pick the poo up steriotypes and tars the many responsible owners with the same bad brush as to bad ones

Sounds like the dog has had enough chances. If a human attacked a child, we'd all say bang them up for years. If there was a way of having a doggy jail where they spend their lives in then do that. I know that isnt a realsitic option so putting him down is the only way. The only person who will miss the dog is the owner and he is partly responsible for the attacks happening. He should never be allowed to have dogs again. And on the topic of bad dog owners... Pick up your dog poo. there are so many good dog owners but you shockingly poor dog owners who dont pick the poo up steriotypes and tars the many responsible owners with the same bad brush as to bad onesbadengk1

Sounds like the dog has had enough chances. If a human attacked a child, we'd all say bang them up for years. If there was a way of having a doggy jail where they spend their lives in then do that. I know that isnt a realsitic option so putting him down is the only way. The only person who will miss the dog is the owner and he is partly responsible for the attacks happening. He should never be allowed to have dogs again. And on the topic of bad dog owners... Pick up your dog poo. there are so many good dog owners but you shockingly poor dog owners who dont pick the poo up steriotypes and tars the many responsible owners with the same bad brush as to bad ones

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Pixienot says...11:43am Mon 30 Jan 12

My dog bit somebody last year he is 14 and never even growled at anyone until then. Sometimes (No matter how well trained) if they feel threatened or are old they can do things out of character! Just like any human!

My dog bit somebody last year he is 14 and never even growled at anyone until then. Sometimes (No matter how well trained) if they feel threatened or are old they can do things out of character! Just like any human!Pixienot

My dog bit somebody last year he is 14 and never even growled at anyone until then. Sometimes (No matter how well trained) if they feel threatened or are old they can do things out of character! Just like any human!

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George4th says...12:38pm Mon 30 Jan 12

My view is that the dog should be put down. > It would be sensible to follow the Swiss whose laws on owning a dog are as follows:- Pass a 3 hour theoretical course with exam. Pass a 3 hours practical course (Cost about £110.00) Have a microchip chip implanted into the dog. Have the microchip number registered to your name. (Pay for this too!) Have a mandatory insurance for the dog (in case he bites someone) Pay annual taxes for the dog (About £80 per year)

My view is that the dog should be put down.
>
It would be sensible to follow the Swiss whose laws on owning a dog are as follows:-
Pass a 3 hour theoretical course with exam. Pass a 3 hours practical course
(Cost about £110.00)
Have a microchip chip implanted into the dog. Have the microchip number registered to your name.
(Pay for this too!)
Have a mandatory insurance for the dog (in case he bites someone)
Pay annual taxes for the dog (About £80 per year)George4th

My view is that the dog should be put down. > It would be sensible to follow the Swiss whose laws on owning a dog are as follows:- Pass a 3 hour theoretical course with exam. Pass a 3 hours practical course (Cost about £110.00) Have a microchip chip implanted into the dog. Have the microchip number registered to your name. (Pay for this too!) Have a mandatory insurance for the dog (in case he bites someone) Pay annual taxes for the dog (About £80 per year)

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Pixienot says...2:54pm Mon 30 Jan 12

George4th wrote…

My view is that the dog should be put down. > It would be sensible to follow the Swiss whose laws on owning a dog are as follows:- Pass a 3 hour theoretical course with exam. Pass a 3 hours practical course (Cost about £110.00) Have a microchip chip implanted into the dog. Have the microchip number registered to your name. (Pay for this too!) Have a mandatory insurance for the dog (in case he bites someone) Pay annual taxes for the dog (About £80 per year)

I agree something should be changed but thats all a little OTT I think the muzzle idea would be alot less expensive for poor families with beloved pets (Who do behave themselves dont you think..

[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote:
My view is that the dog should be put down.
>
It would be sensible to follow the Swiss whose laws on owning a dog are as follows:-
Pass a 3 hour theoretical course with exam. Pass a 3 hours practical course
(Cost about £110.00)
Have a microchip chip implanted into the dog. Have the microchip number registered to your name.
(Pay for this too!)
Have a mandatory insurance for the dog (in case he bites someone)
Pay annual taxes for the dog (About £80 per year)[/p][/quote]I agree something should be changed but thats all a little OTT I think the muzzle idea would be alot less expensive for poor families with beloved pets (Who do behave themselves dont you think..Pixienot

George4th wrote…

My view is that the dog should be put down. > It would be sensible to follow the Swiss whose laws on owning a dog are as follows:- Pass a 3 hour theoretical course with exam. Pass a 3 hours practical course (Cost about £110.00) Have a microchip chip implanted into the dog. Have the microchip number registered to your name. (Pay for this too!) Have a mandatory insurance for the dog (in case he bites someone) Pay annual taxes for the dog (About £80 per year)

I agree something should be changed but thats all a little OTT I think the muzzle idea would be alot less expensive for poor families with beloved pets (Who do behave themselves dont you think..

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badengk1 says...3:32pm Mon 30 Jan 12

Pixienot wrote…

George4th wrote…

My view is that the dog should be put down. > It would be sensible to follow the Swiss whose laws on owning a dog are as follows:- Pass a 3 hour theoretical course with exam. Pass a 3 hours practical course (Cost about £110.00) Have a microchip chip implanted into the dog. Have the microchip number registered to your name. (Pay for this too!) Have a mandatory insurance for the dog (in case he bites someone) Pay annual taxes for the dog (About £80 per year)

I agree something should be changed but thats all a little OTT I think the muzzle idea would be alot less expensive for poor families with beloved pets (Who do behave themselves dont you think..

This is not OTT. It will ensure that anyone who owns a dog has the responsibility and shows they are willing to show the commitment. £100 a year flat payment is affordable for anyone. Its only half a pack of pedegree chum per week. It will deter all the thugs who uses them as threats to people. There should also be a DNA sample with all chips so then when someone finds dog poo on the path, they can get a free sample kit from the vets, and the vets will find out who the owner is. That will stop people letting their dogs foul everywhere. before people jump on the band wagon of cost, it wont cost much as dog owners know they have a financial penalty if they dont pick it up.

[quote][p][bold]Pixienot[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: My view is that the dog should be put down. > It would be sensible to follow the Swiss whose laws on owning a dog are as follows:- Pass a 3 hour theoretical course with exam. Pass a 3 hours practical course (Cost about £110.00) Have a microchip chip implanted into the dog. Have the microchip number registered to your name. (Pay for this too!) Have a mandatory insurance for the dog (in case he bites someone) Pay annual taxes for the dog (About £80 per year)[/p][/quote]I agree something should be changed but thats all a little OTT I think the muzzle idea would be alot less expensive for poor families with beloved pets (Who do behave themselves dont you think..[/p][/quote]This is not OTT. It will ensure that anyone who owns a dog has the responsibility and shows they are willing to show the commitment. £100 a year flat payment is affordable for anyone. Its only half a pack of pedegree chum per week. It will deter all the thugs who uses them as threats to people. There should also be a DNA sample with all chips so then when someone finds dog poo on the path, they can get a free sample kit from the vets, and the vets will find out who the owner is. That will stop people letting their dogs foul everywhere. before people jump on the band wagon of cost, it wont cost much as dog owners know they have a financial penalty if they dont pick it up.badengk1

Pixienot wrote…

George4th wrote…

My view is that the dog should be put down. > It would be sensible to follow the Swiss whose laws on owning a dog are as follows:- Pass a 3 hour theoretical course with exam. Pass a 3 hours practical course (Cost about £110.00) Have a microchip chip implanted into the dog. Have the microchip number registered to your name. (Pay for this too!) Have a mandatory insurance for the dog (in case he bites someone) Pay annual taxes for the dog (About £80 per year)

I agree something should be changed but thats all a little OTT I think the muzzle idea would be alot less expensive for poor families with beloved pets (Who do behave themselves dont you think..

This is not OTT. It will ensure that anyone who owns a dog has the responsibility and shows they are willing to show the commitment. £100 a year flat payment is affordable for anyone. Its only half a pack of pedegree chum per week. It will deter all the thugs who uses them as threats to people. There should also be a DNA sample with all chips so then when someone finds dog poo on the path, they can get a free sample kit from the vets, and the vets will find out who the owner is. That will stop people letting their dogs foul everywhere. before people jump on the band wagon of cost, it wont cost much as dog owners know they have a financial penalty if they dont pick it up.

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Pixienot says...4:53pm Mon 30 Jan 12

badengk1 wrote…

Pixienot wrote…

George4th wrote…

My view is that the dog should be put down. > It would be sensible to follow the Swiss whose laws on owning a dog are as follows:- Pass a 3 hour theoretical course with exam. Pass a 3 hours practical course (Cost about £110.00) Have a microchip chip implanted into the dog. Have the microchip number registered to your name. (Pay for this too!) Have a mandatory insurance for the dog (in case he bites someone) Pay annual taxes for the dog (About £80 per year)

I agree something should be changed but thats all a little OTT I think the muzzle idea would be alot less expensive for poor families with beloved pets (Who do behave themselves dont you think..

This is not OTT. It will ensure that anyone who owns a dog has the responsibility and shows they are willing to show the commitment. £100 a year flat payment is affordable for anyone. Its only half a pack of pedegree chum per week. It will deter all the thugs who uses them as threats to people. There should also be a DNA sample with all chips so then when someone finds dog poo on the path, they can get a free sample kit from the vets, and the vets will find out who the owner is. That will stop people letting their dogs foul everywhere. before people jump on the band wagon of cost, it wont cost much as dog owners know they have a financial penalty if they dont pick it up.

So now its gone to DNA testing dog poo haha.

[quote][p][bold]badengk1[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Pixienot[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: My view is that the dog should be put down. > It would be sensible to follow the Swiss whose laws on owning a dog are as follows:- Pass a 3 hour theoretical course with exam. Pass a 3 hours practical course (Cost about £110.00) Have a microchip chip implanted into the dog. Have the microchip number registered to your name. (Pay for this too!) Have a mandatory insurance for the dog (in case he bites someone) Pay annual taxes for the dog (About £80 per year)[/p][/quote]I agree something should be changed but thats all a little OTT I think the muzzle idea would be alot less expensive for poor families with beloved pets (Who do behave themselves dont you think..[/p][/quote]This is not OTT. It will ensure that anyone who owns a dog has the responsibility and shows they are willing to show the commitment. £100 a year flat payment is affordable for anyone. Its only half a pack of pedegree chum per week. It will deter all the thugs who uses them as threats to people. There should also be a DNA sample with all chips so then when someone finds dog poo on the path, they can get a free sample kit from the vets, and the vets will find out who the owner is. That will stop people letting their dogs foul everywhere. before people jump on the band wagon of cost, it wont cost much as dog owners know they have a financial penalty if they dont pick it up.[/p][/quote]So now its gone to DNA testing dog poo haha.Pixienot

badengk1 wrote…

Pixienot wrote…

George4th wrote…

My view is that the dog should be put down. > It would be sensible to follow the Swiss whose laws on owning a dog are as follows:- Pass a 3 hour theoretical course with exam. Pass a 3 hours practical course (Cost about £110.00) Have a microchip chip implanted into the dog. Have the microchip number registered to your name. (Pay for this too!) Have a mandatory insurance for the dog (in case he bites someone) Pay annual taxes for the dog (About £80 per year)

I agree something should be changed but thats all a little OTT I think the muzzle idea would be alot less expensive for poor families with beloved pets (Who do behave themselves dont you think..

This is not OTT. It will ensure that anyone who owns a dog has the responsibility and shows they are willing to show the commitment. £100 a year flat payment is affordable for anyone. Its only half a pack of pedegree chum per week. It will deter all the thugs who uses them as threats to people. There should also be a DNA sample with all chips so then when someone finds dog poo on the path, they can get a free sample kit from the vets, and the vets will find out who the owner is. That will stop people letting their dogs foul everywhere. before people jump on the band wagon of cost, it wont cost much as dog owners know they have a financial penalty if they dont pick it up.

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