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If a manufacturer was having problems, and sold a bunch of units, then there
is a problem. So he corrected it. Lots of people got stuck with their shit.
Again, your speculation and bafflegab mean nothing.

As long as you keep making up nonsense.

The survey is genuine, asshole. I already told you why you don't like the
results.

not!
the
*You* read it, *you* made *your* statement about it, I didn't change the
data...
I'm sorry this confused your little brain.
You want me to hold your hand while I explain EVERYTHING to you?
Geez, how in the hell do you make it through the day?

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to
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so
make
it
survey
but
survey?
there
shit.
The only nonsense that's here is being posted by yourself.
At least I can read and comprehend a little survey that someone makes up for
an example... LMAO

you
But, I told you (even if the survey wasn't bullshit), I'm not trying to sell
anyone here anything.
I'll install whatever brand the client requests... so how does this
'bullshit' survey effect my business?
When are you going to post something that isn't just more bullshit?
Are you ready to answer my questions yet?
You keep ignoring them... I wonder why? LOL

manufactured
I have posted 'why' their survey is a JOKE.
I have posted 'questions' to 'why' their survey is a JOKE.
You won't even answer the questions that I asked of you... because deep down
in that thing above your shoulders (that you call a brain), you KNOW I'm
right! Just admit it and go on. You can't win something that you don't even
understand. LOL
Do you want some help comprehending surveys?
Get a clue, boy!

figures
Are you still upset that you couldn't read a simple survey?
Are you to incompetent to comment (on my questions) as to why the CR survey
is a JOKE?
Boy, you need to grow up and try to learn something for a change. Your
little mind must be fixated on little things.

And again, for the 10th time, you've posted your own faux survey. Since it
isn't a legitimate survey, it doesn't warrant consideration.
And once again, since you're insisting that bad installation is the main
reason for the lower rated units, that simply shows that your chances of
getting a shittier installation on the lower-ranked units, is much higher than
on the top-ranked ones.
And also once again, when the homeowner turns on his furnace, and it doesn't
work, that's a problem. Doesn't matter WHY there's a problem, only that there
IS a problem.

Because I don't think it is a joke. Your survey is a joke, because it is no
survey. But you already knew that.

the
survey,
can't
problems.
Since
want
Geez... it's even in the same post and you can't find it... not to mention
'you' posted the inaccurate information.
Do you remember saying this?
"It doesn't change the fact that group 2 and group 3 had more problems."
If not, look above, boy!

So how's the training coming?
It' looks like you're studying real hard... as you can't even remember what
you just posted. LOL

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of
higher
Boy, can you not read and comprehend anything?
You must be the dumbest idiot on Usenet.

that
can
You're still missing the facts. I said that the homeowner 'doesn't' know
*why* their equipment failed.
If it's an installation issue, that isn't the equipments fault.
What's so hard for you to understand?

CR
is
I can and do comprehend surveys, you on the other hand want to ignore them
and then later forget what you posted about them.
I see you are still flunking 'How to Read Survey's 101'.... LOL

You still don't get it. It doesn't MATTER. It's a call for service.
The possibility of faulty installation is equal across all the surveyed
brands. If the bottom rated units have bad installs, so do the top ones.
If you want to argue that the chances of faulty installation is NOT equal
across all the rated brands, then the bottom rated ones have MORE of a
propensity for shitty installs, then that still factors into the survey as
MORE PROBLEMS. Pay attention to this next statement: The homeowner doesn't
give a shit what the problem is when he's freezing. His system has let him
down.
You can't argue your way out of this.

This entire post has been nothing but lame flames. You've got nothing left.

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to
one.
guess
mention
doesn't.
what
The only person who was firing blanks, was your daddy, when your mother
conceived you.

chances
does.
installation
he
And that doesn't make the survey accurate.
WHAT caused the failure? Most likely an installation issue.
Again, that's not the equipments fault!!!!

doesn't
him
Again, that doesn't mean it's the equipments fault.
What's so hard about that for you to understand?
If a truck's breaks fail, is it the trucks fault?
If the truck crashed on the interstate, is it the trucks fault?

Your comments are simply inaccurate.
It's really a shame you can't understand something that's simple for most
people to grasp.

the
it
them
left.
I guess you chose to ignore the facts.
You better go re-read the thread and learn something for a change.
I on the other hand, have facts to back up my side of the conversation. I
haven't saw one person back you up throughout this complete thread.
Everybody knows your bullshit is bullshit and that you're to ignorant to
understand the true FACTS!
Must really suck to be so stupid.

Let us all stop the bickering! Here is a longtime highly respected Tech,
- RoBo Tech speaking to other HVAC techs.
Just for the record, Goodman has been challenging all other brands of
equipment for years to produce their percentage of failed parts' returns
and has "not yet had any other manufacturer step up to dispute Goodman's
claim to have the lowest percentage of failures in the industry."
Goodman's claim to have the lowest percentage of failures in the
industry." (Goodman wells more units than the other individual brands.)
I just walked a Goodman basher through properly charging a Goodman
system that he was claiming had a bad compressor. After setting the
equipment to the proper settings and charging according to the Goodman
chart, the system was working exactly as it was designed to work.
Hopefully this guy is a "past" basher now that he knows how to properly
work with Goodman equipment.
Minimum...95% of problems I hear about Goodman systems, I can walk the
tech through resolving or show where a wrong application, installation,
maintenance or service created the problem that caused the failure.
Please, if you do not know what you are doing with brands other then the
one you have been trained on, and you do not have any respect for
equipment, or your own skills...please do not work on brands you wrongly
think are inferior.
It is "YOU" (so-called techs) that are inferior and the real statistics
prove it. - RoBo Tech

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Fuckwit? Oh my, you got real creative with that one, Boy.
I suggest you Google 'bullshit' and *try* to understand that it doesn't
translate to facts. LOL
BTW, it's 'Google' not 'Goggle'.

Yep, that's right, operator error. I guess you've never heard of 'never
changing the air filter since we bought the house'.
You're so clueless, that even your mother would be disgusted at your
ignorance!

conversation. I

And where's your proof?
Most of the time you have to use 'common sense', 'facts', 'training', 'field
tests', 'etc'.
To bad you don't have any!

own
to
Yep, operator error.
The guy 'never' changed his filter!
The guy built a fence/deck around the condenser.
The guy hit the condenser with a rock while mowing.
The facts goes on and on, just like your bullshit!!!

We are talking about the context of the factors NOT associated with
equipment brands' that cause equipment failures which those surveys'
leave out!
They and the reader's of their survey are associating every failure to
the equipment. That is an example of a misleading survey.
Surveys are mere samplings & in respect to Air conditioning equipment
those samplings do NOT indicate the quality of the equipment, therefore,
other factors enter into a higher rate of failure for those particular
brands in any particular survey.
When you learn how to qualify the installers & techs "you will be
enabled to install the equipment with 'the best overall payback' over
the number of years you decide to keep it." Those factors are far too
involved to include in a survey!
Who knows equipment better than those who have serviced most brands &
worked on them for many decades.
That survey does NOT tell us squat concerning the actual quality &
longevity of the equipment.
It is a mere statistical survey, in another area of the country with
different owners the picture could change considerably & even then, it
is rather meaningless.
You have NO idea how numerous the factors are that result in premature
repairs!
I subscribe to CR but take some of the surveys with a grain of salt.
Survey stats can be way off base; you are welcome to believe what you
want to believe.
My choice of HVAC equipment, its performance & payback will NOT be based
on any CR survey.
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- udarrell

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