In 1992 there were officialy 17% of the population in favour of Monarchy.How's the situation now?

cmbruno

05-05-2011 07:37 PM

There is not enough support and I doubt there will ever be in spite of the Imperial family here in Brazil has never been hated, quite the contrary. Brazil has finally started to make peace with its history and now, more than the affection people have had for King D. João VI, D. Pedro I and D. Pedro II, these monarchs have started to get some respect as well, thanks to new studies, books and reevaluation of ou historiry in recent years. But no, I don't think there is ever going to be another King in Brazil or in the Americas.

Cory

05-05-2011 08:00 PM

A king maybe not but an emperor?
The monarchists are strong enough?

Kasumi

05-06-2011 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Cory
(Post 1248959)

In 1992 there were officialy 17% of the population in favour of Monarchy.

May I inquire where did you get this poll's result, Cory?
Since HIH the Prince Bertrand of Orleans-Braganza said in one of his interviews they had 11%.
May I see some proof link, please?

cmbruno

05-06-2011 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Cory
(Post 1248980)

A king maybe not but an emperor?
The monarchists are strong enough?

Let me rephrase: I don't think there will ever be a King (as we had when Brazil was a United Kingdom with Portugal and Algarves) or an Emperor (when Brazil became independent). Our goverment is not parlamentarist and I doubt the people would accept absolutism ever again. Brazil would have to change its constitution to accept first a head of state and a head o government. The monarchists don't even have a party here.

Cory

05-06-2011 04:07 AM

I was wrong:Monarchy had only 12% in 1992.A new Constitution is not impossible with a real campaign of a serious monarchist association.

cmbruno

05-06-2011 12:23 PM

I have some links here that might help to understand the 1993 referendum. Just one of them is is Portuguese:

I also would like to add that monarchy supporters are now trying to register 3 or 4 parties to support a new referendum in 2013. I don't think they will succed. Brazil is doing very well nowadays and people try to stick with what is showing results.

Ah, I thougt you might find it interesting: The motto pro monarchy in 1993 was "Give your vote to the King"

MAfan

05-06-2011 02:08 PM

Is it true that one of the main reasons of the failure of the 1993 referendum was that Prince Luiz Gastao (the claimant) and Prince Bertrand (his brother and successor) are generally considered to be too much conservative?

cmbruno

05-06-2011 05:09 PM

No. The failure was not because of the Vassouras branch is "carola" (which means too much religious in a derrogatory way - as Princess Isabel was also called) and too much conservative. It was very well explained to the population that if monarchy was chosen it didn't mean that this or that claimant would immediatly be the king. The Congress or another referendum would choose the king/emperor. And, at that time, a rather charmant Prince, D. Joãozinho (as he is called -João Henrique D'Orléans e Bragança, Grandson of D. Pedro D'Órléans e Bragança, son of D. João Maria D'Orléans e Bragança of the Petrópolis branch) was much in vogue, giving interviews and so on. D. João Henrique was then young, modern, dashing, very well articulate and quite handsome; the perfect ambassador for monarchy.

Cory

05-07-2011 03:25 AM

Don Antonio and Don Raphael are known by the people?

cmbruno

05-07-2011 10:23 AM

Brazilian elite knows them all but the majority of the population is not very interested. They know they are princes but very little about dinastic matters. Of course they were all over the news when D. Pedro Luís de Orléans e Bragança passed away in the Air France 447 Flight crash in 2009.
I know there are other Brazilians at the Royal Forums and it would be nice of them to also give their opinion and correct any mistakes I might have made.

Roughly how much support does each have? If they were to combine and form one monarchist party would that have any hope of being recognised?

Cory

05-07-2011 03:58 PM

Don Luis Gastao visits the different parts of the country in order to be known by the people?

cmbruno

05-07-2011 07:54 PM

If he does, it does not make the headlines.

Cory

05-08-2011 08:26 AM

It means the monarchists are not very well organised?

cmbruno

05-08-2011 09:07 AM

It means there is no PR work, no leadership and no money (from the royal family or from wealthy supporters). And most of all, no interest from the great majority of the population.
I guess that the more time passes by, the lesser chances monarchy has in Brazil.

Cory

05-08-2011 09:41 AM

Don Antonio seems to be a very intelligent person.He could become a very good symbol of the royal revival.