John Lewis Orbit Turntable now £25 @ john lewis

if you need a turntable this is a good price + 2 year warrantyIt comes complete with cartridge, replaceable styli and 45rpm adaptor. The tone arm is automatic and returns to the arm rest after playing a recording.

Would i be able to use this with system below and what leads do i … Would i be able to use this with system below and what leads do i require?Philips

jump leads?

15th Jan 2011

usb?

15th Jan 2011

iPad killer but is it 3D?

16th Jan 2011

For all of you that laugh, vynil is still the best media for clear reproduction of music, you will rarely see a true Hi Fi fanatic using anything else.

None of your compressed MP3 rubbish.. (_;)

16th Jan 2011

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For all of you that laugh, vynil is still the best media for clear … For all of you that laugh, vynil is still the best media for clear reproduction of music, you will rarely see a true Hi Fi fanatic using anything else.None of your compressed MP3 rubbish.. (_;)

Cd? Dvd audio?

16th Jan 2011

leedale30

Cd? Dvd audio?

Even CD/DVD is not as good.(_;)

Because something is newer, it isn't always better, it is usually just more convenient for the masses.

16th Jan 2011

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Even CD/DVD is not as good.(_;)Because something is newer, it isn't … Even CD/DVD is not as good.(_;)Because something is newer, it isn't always better, it is usually just more convenient for the masses.

so if a recording was mastered to DAT or other 16bit format before it went onto CD/vinyl does it mean that the vinyl upscales the data to a higher resolution?

16th Jan 2011

Vinyl is certainly capable of excellent audio quality..... there's plenty online to read about cd vs vinyl. Fact is that CD is generally very good and does not degrade as it's played unlike vinyl records but conversely well kept records and good quality record decks can give super results and vinyl is not limited by sampling rates so technically reproduces truer sound. Ultimately some people like CD and some like vinyl so the choice is down to the individual and their equipment/records/cds. MP3's are another kettle of fish of course.

This cheap turntable will not however, get that sort of excellence out of your records so is rather irrelevent in discussions of vinyl vs cd.

Edited by: "spannerzone" 16th Jan 2011

16th Jan 2011

spannerzone

Vinyl is certainly capable of excellent audio quality..... there's plenty … Vinyl is certainly capable of excellent audio quality..... there's plenty online to read about cd vs vinyl. Fact is that CD is generally very good and does not degrade as it's played unlike vinyl records but conversely well kept records and good quality record decks can give super results and vinyl is not limited by sampling rates so technically reproduces truer sound. Ultimately some people like CD and some like vinyl so the choice is down to the individual and their equipment/records/cds. MP3's are another kettle of fish of course.This cheap turntable will not however, get that sort of excellence out of your records so is rather irrelevent in discussions of vinyl vs cd.

since the early 90's music has been mastered to digital 16bit mostly so anything that was mastered into 16bit would mean that it somehow changes when it is then put on vinyl? Does that mean I can upgrade my cd's by putting them on vinyl as they are just digital clones of the master? I am going to buy a vinyl lathe!!

16th Jan 2011

leedale30

since the early 90's music has been mastered to digital 16bit mostly so … since the early 90's music has been mastered to digital 16bit mostly so anything that was mastered into 16bit would mean that it somehow changes when it is then put on vinyl? Does that mean I can upgrade my cd's by putting them on vinyl as they are just digital clones of the master? I am going to buy a vinyl lathe!!

But many of us have pre 90's vinyl.(_;)

16th Jan 2011

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But many of us have pre 90's vinyl.(_;)

did you not say that DVD audio would also have lesser quality? I must get some 192 kHz/24-bit stereo audio track masters and a vinyl version and measure the frequency response in the studio with some reference microphones and monitors - but then this would also be floored as the vinyl version would have had to have been mastered to a vinyl master to keep it analogue which would probably not been the case. I suppose 'quality' is all relative as I like totally flat direct and as close to the mastering engineers version as possible not colored by the equipment. The headroom/resolution given via a 192 kHz/24-bit is far in excess of tape and vinyl.

16th Jan 2011

I bet the record companies wished digital CD had not come now.

Edited by: "BritBrat" 16th Jan 2011

16th Jan 2011

No HDMI so voted cold...

Vinyl as a format is just not as good as CD. The dynamic range, resolution of frequencies and stereo separation are all inferior on vinyl. Where vinyl can sometimes be better than CD is in the mastering. Lots of specific CDs suffer from dynamic range compression and you can often find better-mastered versions on vinyl. Of course sometimes both the CD and the LP have crap mastering. Finally some records just aren't available on CD and lots of people have existing record collections on vinyl, so obviously record players have their place.

16th Jan 2011

oh god why do we bother to post replies!

My point was that vinyl can sound excellent.

It won't however sound excellent on a £25 turntable like this. But if you're after a turntable to play some old records that you have then it's a bargain.

I won't get into a resolution/bitrate/analogue versus digtal arguement. I am happy to be totally proven incorrect about 1990's generation LP's being mastered at 16bit.