Tavares chin seemed to leave him in 07. Roller KOed him after not having a KO win for 5 or 6 years as did Wiman.
Ovstrovskiy has numerous KO losses and lost 5 in a row at one point.
1 of his KO wins is VS a guy with only 1 MMA fight.
Shahinyan has never won a fight...seriously
Santos has 9 KO losses, lots early, some back to back

I like Khabib but when he actually KO's somebody with a chin, we will continue this.

Tavares chin seemed to leave him in 07. Roller KOed him after not having a KO win for 5 or 6 years as did Wiman.
Ovstrovskiy has numerous KO losses and lost 5 in a row at one point.
1 of his KO wins is VS a guy with only 1 MMA fight.
Shahinyan has never won a fight...seriously
Santos has 9 KO losses, lots early, some back to back

I like Khabib but when he actually KO's somebody with a chin, we will continue this.

In that case, we can discuss how Wiman has never beaten anybody good losing to every fighter remotely close to a top 10, Kevin Burns has lost 66% of his fights by knock out, Eric Beaulieu is 6-9 and Maynard is the only fighter to have ever been knocked out by Frankie Edgar which discredits Grants knockout ability too.

In that case, we can discuss how Wiman has never beaten anybody good losing to every fighter remotely close to a top 10, Kevin Burns has lost 66% of his fights by knock out, Eric Beaulieu is 6-9 and Maynard is the only fighter to have ever been knocked out by Frankie Edgar which discredits Grants knockout ability too.

See how easy that is?

No.

Burns has a questionable chin, Beaulieu sucks, Maynard is greatly disliked by me so if u can discrdit anything on him Im proud.

Lmao Khabib would have no shot against Bendo. His striking is god awful and Bendo has great tdd. He would keep it standing and outstrike him, and he's probably the better grappler also

While I wouldn't favor Nurmagomedov just yet in a match against Bendo, do you really think he's the better grappler? He may be the stronger fighter, but Nurmagomedov's technical skill is leaps ahead of Bendo's in terms of grappling.

While I wouldn't favor Nurmagomedov just yet in a match against Bendo, do you really think he's the better grappler? He may be the stronger fighter, but Nurmagomedov's technical skill is leaps ahead of Bendo's in terms of grappling.

His technical skills are so good that he was unable to keep Abel Trujillo on his back

lol whatever you do...don't point out facts! You will be immediately labeled a hater and have a personal beef with someone you've never met and know nothing about personally. You're just not allowed to respect them as a fighter but still believe they could probably lose to the top fighters who have been owning the division for years. Cmon man this is an MMA forum, don't make that mistake again.

lol whatever you do...don't point out facts! You will be immediately labeled a hater and have a personal beef with someone you've never met and know nothing about personally. You're just not allowed to respect them as a fighter but still believe they could probably lose to the top fighters who have been owning the division for years. Cmon man this is an MMA forum, don't make that mistake again.

Seriously? I asked him why he thinks Bendo has more technical grappling than Khabib and he brought up a fight where Khabib set a record for take downs with his Sambo technique as if that wasn't a display of his grappling.. And after doing a bit of reading, he's made numerous posts where he seems to be campaigning against him.

I'm genuinely curious as to why he thinks Bendo would be the better grappler.

Seriously? I asked him why he thinks Bendo has more technical skill than Khabib and he brought up a fight where Khabib set a record for take downs with his Sambo technique..

No you asked him why and then accused him of having a "personal beef" for some strange reason. You can still like/respect fighters even if you don't think they have the skills to beat other guys. Its not a personal dislike. Just like when people said Weidman couldn't beat Silva and everyone whined how you were a "hater".

No you asked him why and then accused him of having a "personal beef" for some strange reason. You can still like/respect fighters even if you don't think they have the skills to beat other guys. Its not a personal dislike. Just like when people said Weidman couldn't beat Silva and everyone whined how you were a "hater".

How is labelling a fight where he set a record with his grappling an indication that Bendo has better grappling? The way he spun it makes it seem like he has a personal disinterest in the fighter, and as I said in the edited version he's made quite a few posts that make him seem like he has something against him.

How is labelling a fight where he set a record with his grappling an indication that Bendo has better grappling? The way he spun it makes it seem like he has a personal disinterest in the fighter, and as I said in the edited version he's made quite a few posts that make him seem like he has something against him by the volume of posts he has made about how he doesn't think Khabib is good enough for the top 10.

Because as always there is grappling, and then there is MMA grappling. Khabib is good and Healy was an awesome win, but to do that at the highest levels of the division is going to be very tough. Healy was "top 10" but its not like he's been in the UFC division for a long time. Henderson was the champ for a reason and could block takedowns from Frankie Edgar with ease. Takedowns not easily telegraphed since Edgar has such phenomenal boxing to disguise it. So while Khabib may be all decorated as a grappler, so was Roger Gracie. Benson has already proven he can do it at the highest level and still has a good wrestling/BJJ background to back it up. Khabib hasn't just yet.

All i know is khabib is a stud freestyle wrestler ontop of a stud sambo practioner. He appears to be picking up folk at his gym as well which is zero surprise. He needs to work on his striking, but his athletic ability plus wrestling/grappling, is more than for me to believe no one would just shut him out for 3 or 5 rounds.. no way.

Because as always there is grappling, and then there is MMA grappling. Khabib is good and Healy was an awesome win, but to do that at the highest levels of the division is going to be very tough. Healy was "top 10" but its not like he's been in the UFC division for a long time. Henderson was the champ for a reason and could block takedowns from Frankie Edgar with ease. Takedowns not easily telegraphed since Edgar has such phenomenal boxing to disguise it. So while Khabib may be all decorated as a grappler, so was Roger Gracie. Benson has already proven he can do it at the highest level and still has a good wrestling/BJJ background to back it up. Khabib hasn't just yet.

This would have been the type of answer I would have expected from a non-bias spectator, but that isn't the type of answer I received which lead me to believe it was something more than just an unbias opinion. Not something along the lines of "Benson is a better grappler because of the Khabib vs Abel fight" where he set a take down record.

And it's a very agreeable reply, I wouldn't fault anyone for believing that opinion. Believing Khabib could do the same to the top 5 is only speculation at this point, where as Bendo was proven.. it's just your reply was much more solid than the person I responded to.

All i know is khabib is a stud freestyle wrestler ontop of a stud sambo practioner. He appears to be picking up folk at his gym as well which is zero surprise. He needs to work on his striking, but his athletic ability plus wrestling/grappling, is more than for me to believe no one would just shut him out for 3 or 5 rounds.. no way.

Also dude is only 25. He could improve his striking within the next couple years and really be ready for a title run.
I think a win over BamBam is a big deal, and would love to see him vs Bendo. Just to see where he really is. Even a great showing in a lose would be a big deal, but i think Khabib wins that fight. Anyone who doesn't think he has a great ground game is crazy, his grappling is way better then Bendo's and The Eagle could submit him. The Pettis fight should that.