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Story occurs in a multiverse where time constantly cycles itself in a law of Eternal Return, leading to souls being forever trapped in suffering. The plot centers on essentially the fight to break free of this law and to write a new law governing existence.

MOD EDIT: This conversation was split from the General Eroge Impressions & Discussion thread.

Hello everyone! Maybe I'm posting in the wrong thread, so I'm really sorry.
Has anyone read Dies Irae? I'd like to ask, how difficult is japanese in it(grammar, vocabulary)?
I'm now studiyng JLPT 1 grammar, and read only "Midori no Umi", "Kimi e Okuru Sora no Hana" and a bit of "Aiyoku no Eustia".
Is it ok to read it or better stick with something easier?
Thank you very much for answer!

Hello everyone! Maybe I'm posting in the wrong thread, so I'm really sorry.
Has anyone read Dies Irae? I'd like to ask, how difficult is japanese in it(grammar, vocabulary)?
I'm now studiyng JLPT 1 grammar, and read only "Midori no Umi", "Kimi e Okuru Sora no Hana" and a bit of "Aiyoku no Eustia".
Is it ok to read it or better stick with something easier?
Thank you very much for answer!

It's pretty hard. Not Bengarachou Hakubutsushi -hard but still hard. JLPT doesn't mean a whole lot for games that break through the 3000 unique Kanji barrier and have insane writing styles or ye olde Japanese.

It's pretty hard. Not Bengarachou Hakubutsushi -hard but still hard. JLPT doesn't mean a whole lot for games that break through the 3000 unique Kanji barrier and have insane writing styles or ye olde Japanese.

Say, how hard is it when compared to ItsuSora? So far, that game is the most difficult for me to read (it took me about three years to finish after all ), it would be good to have a heads up before deciding to read it (if ever ).

- Huge cast of characters with most of them have their own distinct speech patterns.
- Unusual Kanji here and there
- Pretty descriptive text in narration and especially in battle. (I believe this should be a good sample, and don't worry it is from prologue so nothing spoiler, note that the video uploader voiced the narration)

If you can get past through that, I think you will be doing fine in term of following the plot and interactions.

Hello everyone! Maybe I'm posting in the wrong thread, so I'm really sorry.
Has anyone read Dies Irae? I'd like to ask, how difficult is japanese in it(grammar, vocabulary)?
I'm now studiyng JLPT 1 grammar, and read only "Midori no Umi", "Kimi e Okuru Sora no Hana" and a bit of "Aiyoku no Eustia".
Is it ok to read it or better stick with something easier?
Thank you very much for answer!

N1 should find Dies Irae ok

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It's pretty hard. Not Bengarachou Hakubutsushi -hard but still hard. JLPT doesn't mean a whole lot for games that break through the 3000 unique Kanji barrier and have insane writing styles or ye olde Japanese.

Depends on the student really, but I find most N1 people I know can read Dies after I explained the terminology and concepts to them

Note that I myself don't hold any JLPT cert or formally study Japanese。

Biggest challenge IMO, is understanding the terminology of the Throne system

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Huge cast of characters with most of them have their own distinct speech patterns.

Say, how hard is it when compared to ItsuSora? So far, that game is the most difficult for me to read (it took me about three years to finish after all ), it would be good to have a heads up before deciding to read it (if ever ).

The problem with DI is that it's really overly grandiose and somewhat cryptic ALL THE TIME. And it's long, you could probably fit 3 Itsusoras in that game. Shumon has his quirks but I think that's easier to deal with than Masada running amok with chuu2.

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Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

Depends on the student really, but I find most N1 people I know can read Dies after I explained the terminology and concepts to them

Yeah sure, just saying that JLPT doesn't say a whole lot about the reading ability for somewhat advanced stuff.

The problem with DI is that it's really overly grandiose and somewhat cryptic ALL THE TIME. And it's long, you could probably fit 3 Itsusoras in that game. Shumon has his quirks but I think that's easier to deal with than Masada running amok with chuu2.

I thought KKK surpassed DI in term of chuu2-ness ? Haven't touched my KKK yet though, so I'm guessing from what I have seen on some videos.

But I do agree the chuu2 in DI can go over the top sometimes. Doesn't prevent you from enjoying the plot and battle though.

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Originally Posted by erneiz_hyde

That long? That about does it then. I probably won't read it anytime soon, with the slow pace I play VNs now Too many VN I started have been left unfinished already.

Yeah, it's around 4mb in term of script size . Probably the longest VN I ever played. For comparison, Rewrite is around 3.56 Mb and MLA is around 2.6 Mb.

I'm not exactly sure which is longer but the combined White Album 2 games just nearly rival it I think. Or so I felt when playing.

Hell Dies's many routes ..... Ok Cogliostro's many multiversal rewindings. Are just like Baldr Sky's many routes and endings

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Originally Posted by erneiz_hyde

That long? That about does it then. I probably won't read it anytime soon, with the slow pace I play VNs now Too many VN I started have been left unfinished already.

You can try Amantes Amentes, the consumer PSP version. It has additional content, namely a Machina route....but you can play it on the go at least.

I still hope Masada would attempt a new game after the Senpai route in Dies....He dares not touch on what Naraka will do now that the damned Snake retconned me out of existence but it's really a pity to leave the story hanging like that.