When you legislate a person's rights away a piece at a time naive citizens don't notice...

The Patriot Act is anything but patriotic, denying citizens our freedoms and privacy in the lie of government security is allowing evil to win.. I will take my chances with the terrorists over tyranny...

The refineries didnt cause the hurricane nor force those people to live there and own cars so why would they worry about that. People want fuel and will pay what it costs or they won't drive. A little self responsibility negates most of these arguments easily. People seems to despise socialism but the first thing they want is more government in our markets to spread the socialism and fairness. Funny how that works.

No shortage here in PA yet, but my daughter said she paid $2.85/gal. on Monday. I think gas here was around $2.30 before the hurricane hit.

Was $2.499 ($2.50) here Before.

I paid $2.799 ($2.80) Only because I had a 10 Cent per Gallon Discount to use .
I really would Have liked to have kept it & built it up to at least 20 - 25 cents
but fear is, by the time I get there Gas will be 30 40 cents Higher
it's a loose,loose proposition especially where there is also talk of tax increases here again, and I'm sure Fuel is one of the Things they want to raise.

Hard to feel sorry for people.
I have to follow regulations when I build a new outhouse in the woods (maximum size requiremnets, distance from WATERWAYS) yet these idiots build million dollar homes on a beach and no one sees it coming.
My outhouse is still standing and the only bail out I will need is when I run out of tp.

Hard to feel sorry for people.
I have to follow regulations when I build a new outhouse in the woods (maximum size requiremnets, distance from WATERWAYS) yet these idiots build million dollar homes on a beach and no one sees it coming.
My outhouse is still standing and the only bail out I will need is when I run out of tp.

I do feel if you had 2 Bailouts in your lifetime. You should not be Eligible for a 3rd.
unless you've already Jumped through hoops & are willing to jump through even more stringent ones now.

Only because if your Home doesn't make it through one & you get Government help,
More Power to You

But Build your home Stronger & Better or elsewhere .

If it happens again & your house is destroyed,

at least Before you can get a third, you should be able to Prove
the storm that hit the coast was entirely historic in nature .
Like cat 10 hurricane,Earthquake , Tsunami , or Asteroid Strike.

or you need to move for a third bailout. we all live & Learn. Or at least should.

Most insurance companies don't even offer flood insurance for this reason and that's why the feds carry the ball on this. If it's unsustainable and unaffordable to the homeowner then it makes perfect sense that the feds would offer it.
If it's a losing venture that will cost us billions you can be sure both parties will jump on board and drag us along for the ride. Don't expect any words from trump about this massive waste even tho things like this is what he ran on.
The Dems are embracing him now as he slides further left.
We all want to be liked right?

One distraction after another...just to keep our brains on less important things.

Most insurance companies don't even offer flood insurance for this reason and that's why the feds carry the ball on this. If it's unsustainable and unaffordable to the homeowner then it makes perfect sense that the feds would offer it.
If it's a losing venture that will cost us billions you can be sure both parties will jump on board and drag us along for the ride. Don't expect any words from trump about this massive waste even tho things like this is what he ran on.
The Dems are embracing him now as he slides further left.
We all want to be liked right?

One distraction after another...just to keep our brains on less important things.

Sorry I can't respond to that. Getting Too far into politics for My taste here in General Discussion

Most insurance companies don't even offer flood insurance for this reason and that's why the feds carry the ball on this. If it's unsustainable and unaffordable to the homeowner then it makes perfect sense that the feds would offer it.
If it's a losing venture that will cost us billions you can be sure both parties will jump on board and drag us along for the ride. Don't expect any words from trump about this massive waste even tho things like this is what he ran on.
The Dems are embracing him now as he slides further left.
We all want to be liked right?

One distraction after another...just to keep our brains on less important things.

friend is going through a buy out from the mandatory FI program
through the city and fema,dont know how many areas this is available
to, search....flood zone buyouts
my friends costs, and does not live in hurricane zone
house payment= 400+ the flood insurance 800+ a month
reg insurance 2200+ a yr, taxes 6000K+ a yr
home value, 325K lived there 15yr
been paying the mandatory flood insurance 5 yr or more

Most insurance companies don't even offer flood insurance for this reason and that's why the feds carry the ball on this. If it's unsustainable and unaffordable to the homeowner then it makes perfect sense that the feds would offer it.
If it's a losing venture that will cost us billions you can be sure both parties will jump on board and drag us along for the ride. Don't expect any words from trump about this massive waste even tho things like this is what he ran on.
The Dems are embracing him now as he slides further left.
We all want to be liked right?

One distraction after another...just to keep our brains on less important things.

I've had no problem getting flood insurance in Florida, bought it from 3 different companies in Florida as my mortgage changed hands over the last 16 years.

When you legislate a person's rights away a piece at a time naive citizens don't notice...

The Patriot Act is anything but patriotic, denying citizens our freedoms and privacy in the lie of government security is allowing evil to win.. I will take my chances with the terrorists over tyranny...

I've had flood insurance too and thankfully never needed it, only one close call. Sifting through the mess that's left of your house would be the rottenest job I could think of! Water ruins everything and it's usually all trash.