tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.comments2017-12-12T10:02:32.548+00:00Northern VoicesBlanco Posnethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11288856212231100137noreply@blogger.comBlogger1064125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.post-88656857694435002702017-12-12T10:02:32.548+00:002017-12-12T10:02:32.548+00:00Its (the Telegraph review) pretty good (by Nichola...Its (the Telegraph review) pretty good (by Nicholas Blincoe). See attached. Might be worth putting up on the blog.<br /> <br />With a footnote:<br /> <br />&quot;The Telegraph, unlike the badly written Danczuk book has got the name of the original published source of the stories - RAP - right. As they say, the magazine was called Rochdale&#39;s Alternative Paper. A fact picked up by others who acknolwedged the source of the story, including: The Times, World at One, Despatches, Politics Home, Private Eye, Manchester Evening News and Rochdale Observer.<br /> <br />The Telegraph&#39;s Reviewer, like {Paul Waugh of Politics Home) were Rochdale youngsters in 1979, unlike Danczuk and Baker, and so acknowledge the importance of the original, and ignored, &quot;outing&quot; of Smith the paedophile. The shallow Danczuk book consistently refers to it as Rochdale&#39;s Alternative Press&quot;<br /> <br />Just a thought, as they sayJohn Walkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.post-36303044441446455842017-12-11T19:52:29.755+00:002017-12-11T19:52:29.755+00:00&quot;I acknowledge I got the &#39;Syria&#39; argu...&quot;I acknowledge I got the &#39;Syria&#39; argument the wrong way round, the speakers who got shouted down were in fact supporters if the so called SFA which is aligned with the USA , and the protesters were in fact PKK supporters. Now in that row I would have identified politically with the latter and certainly not the former who have unsavoury links with the Jihadists and despite their claims at secularism have dubious outlooks and composition. Despite the fact I think them strange &#39;dinner guests&#39; to an anarchist book fare, I defend their right to speak. We are surely not afraid to verbally and politically confront people we don&#39;t agree with rather than try and silence them ? Some people also didn&#39;t like my use of the term &#39;transmen&#39;. Listen, I&#39;m not even going to stray into that minefield, the picture looms of me stamping me way through it with two fingers in my ears listening for the bang ! Whatever way you term it, these were men who have assumed, developed, adopted, chosen, to identify as women. OK, the principle I am making is, you do not have to like all opinions, all opinions do not have to have been past some PC censor to be put forward. Even ideas and politics which one might find repellent, have a right to be heard especially when put by people who hold anarchist positions.&quot; Dave Douglassnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.post-5605635237542755632017-12-09T20:08:39.086+00:002017-12-09T20:08:39.086+00:00A little humility and honesty from Mr Farnell coul...A little humility and honesty from Mr Farnell could help the local Labour Party who remain in office.<br />But Mr Farnell persists in blaming and condemning others for his own failings.<br />The local Labour Party remains in a mess and the interim &#39;leaders&#39; won&#39;t make it any better.<br />Time for the national Party to step in and suspend the local Labour Party pending a full investigation into it&#39;s affairs.<br />They have done this in the past (when Lorna Fitzsimmons threw away the seat and blamed the local party).<br />Time for the national Party to act. A full enquiry is needed into local party officials support for Danczuk, Farnell and all their cronies (including the North West Regional Labour Party).<br />If this does not happen then when it comes to the local elections in May do not vote for the &#39;cronies&#39;<br />Ask the candidates for their views on Danczuk, Farnell etc. and if they do not condemn these people - DO NOT VOTE FOR THEM. Mick Coatsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.post-75917996497860407412017-12-08T21:29:53.639+00:002017-12-08T21:29:53.639+00:00Dave Douglass doesn&#39;t care for &#39;anonymous’...Dave Douglass doesn&#39;t care for &#39;anonymous’ commentators and here has accepted our suggestion that the we as editors respond to the Anonymous comments. He has said of the trans position &#39;they [the trans people] are entitled to a point of view, but that&#39;s all it is, other comrades view things differently, and other points of view are equally valid, we can’t have a specific point of view imposed upon us.&#39; bammyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13889214646896381113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.post-77280815238449364412017-12-03T21:08:10.208+00:002017-12-03T21:08:10.208+00:00One Anonymous said...:
&#39;2) You&#39;ve got the ...One Anonymous said...:<br />&#39;2) You&#39;ve got the PKK/ISIS thing all backwards. There was a talk that was disrupted, but it was a talk by supporters of the Syrian revolution who were critical of the PKK, and it was shut down by PKK supporters (see: here and here). Still indefensible, but it&#39;s nonsense to claim that the people doing it were supporters of the Jihadists and Theocrats - if anything, they would presumably say that Robin and Leila were supporters of jihadists for their pro-FSA views.&#39;<br /><br />I stand corrected on the factual content, I am clearly in error as to some facts, not sure which Syrian Revolution is being referred to here but the point I was making is fairly obvious in favour of free speech which you seem to agree, no we will not be inviting non revolutionary groups but if some faction of the labour left claiming to be revolutionary apply aye we&#39;d find them space, its meant to be a &#39;workers bookfair&#39; ie books in support of working class struggle and outlook so not just an all in general bookfare regardless of politics, The comment about &#39;shame it wasn&#39;t petrol&#39; isn&#39;t worthy of reply and may not have come from the same person as it isn&#39;t in the same spirit. Our platforms must be open to different views and tactics and outlooks and if someone doesn&#39;t like that sort of diversity they shoudn&#39;t come.Dave Douglassnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.post-30842773111113323342017-12-03T15:19:12.200+00:002017-12-03T15:19:12.200+00:00Activists within the Campaign against the Blacklis...Activists within the Campaign against the Blacklist themselves blacklisted by the Manchester Anarchist Bookfair. An incredible happening took place at Saturdays Manchester Anarchist Bookfair. A meeting requested by Campaign supporters was refused by the organising junta. When 2 anarchists Brian Bamford and Barry Woodling both trade union activists in the Unite Union attempted to enter the building they were attacked and forcibly removed by one of the organisers Veg and several of his cronies. The resort to violence by this authoritarian clique does untold damage to the credibility of the wider anarchist movement and deserves the utmost condemnation!barry woodlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10217244895797973965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.post-76268227791763495362017-12-03T13:52:27.643+00:002017-12-03T13:52:27.643+00:00Sounds like you heard about events at LABF third o...Sounds like you heard about events at LABF third or fourth hand. You have almost all the details wrong and mangled.<br /><br />1) The people giving out the leaflets weren&#39;t anarcho-feminists. One of them, for example, is a Green Party candidate.<br /><br />2) You use &#39;transmen&#39; when discussing trans women. WTF. Please have the decency to use language which acknowledges how people experience their own gender.<br /><br />3) The leaflets weren&#39;t about excluding trans women from sessions at the bookfair, they were about wanting to exclude trans women from women&#39;s spaces in the wider society.<br /><br />4) The people confronting the leafletters didn&#39;t disrupt any bookfair sessions, because that&#39;s not what the argument was about. Complete fiction.<br /><br />5) The people confronting the leafletters were a whole mix of people, not &#39;a gang of transmen&#39;.<br /><br />6) The people confronting the leafletters did not make &#39;a whole list of demands&#39;. They were focused on getting the transphobic leafletters to leave. You are probably getting confused with an open letter published later by various groups which did contain a list of demands.<br /><br />7) You have exaggerated the extent of the list of demands.<br /><br />IMO comradely diversity is great but it shouldn&#39;t extend to tolerating bigotry. Standing up to bigots and physically forcing them out is not authoritarianism, it&#39;s basic common sense and basic solidarity (with the groups they are trying to marginalise).<br /><br />(That&#39;s relating to this year&#39;s kerfufle, I don&#39;t know enough about the other incidents you mention which do seem quite different).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.post-66939113035183506902017-12-02T21:16:41.668+00:002017-12-02T21:16:41.668+00:00My colleague and joint-editor Derek, takes a dim v...My colleague and joint-editor Derek, takes a dim view of Anomynous comments, as does David Douglass himself. Their reasoning is that it often leads to rash remarks and a confusing exchange of views. Confusing because if the anomynous person doesn&#39;t have the imagination to even create a pseudonym one often loses track of which &#39;anomynous&#39; person one is responding to. Also it is generally excepted by editors, for obvious reasons, that Anomynous comments are not treated as seriously as those which have a clearly identifiable commentator. Thus, the reasons for the delay in publishing the above comments was that I was away and not online for almost two weeks. Therefore, nothing to do with &#39;free speech&#39;. bammyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13889214646896381113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.post-353665194021876982017-11-22T18:51:14.112+00:002017-11-22T18:51:14.112+00:00Are youse not approving comments pointing out your...Are youse not approving comments pointing out your factual errors? Much anarchism, very free speech, wow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.post-76743728193090158832017-11-21T19:55:29.503+00:002017-11-21T19:55:29.503+00:00A few corrections:
1) I don&#39;t think there&#39;...A few corrections:<br />1) I don&#39;t think there&#39;s anything particularly surprising about the treatment that Bamford got. If someone wrote a similarly &quot;insensitive&quot; obiturary about, say, Davey Hopper (RIP) immediately after his death, and then tried flogging it around at the Gala, what do you honestly think would happen? It&#39;s not an experiment I&#39;d be keen to try, but I imagine you&#39;d be very lucky to get away with just a bit of ketchup.<br />2) You&#39;ve got the PKK/ISIS thing all backwards. There was a talk that was disrupted, but it was a talk by supporters of the Syrian revolution who were critical of the PKK, and it was shut down by PKK supporters (see: <a href="https://qunfuz.com/2016/10/31/anarchism/" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="https://leilashami.wordpress.com/2016/10/29/london-anarchist-bookfair/" rel="nofollow">here</a>). Still indefensible, but it&#39;s nonsense to claim that the people doing it were supporters of the Jihadists and Theocrats - if anything, they would presumably say that Robin and Leila were supporters of jihadists for their pro-FSA views.<br />3) When you say transmen, that&#39;s a word used for people who were assigned female at birth, usually have two X chromosomes and so on, who identify as being male. I don&#39;t think that&#39;s what you&#39;re trying to say there.<br />4) Good luck with your bookfair, it sounds like a good event, and I&#39;ll do my best to publicise it when it&#39;s organised, let people I know in the area know about it, and might try and make it along myself. One question though, will you be inviting Labour? The Lib Dems? The Tories? UKIP? The North East Infidels? How far does your commitment to &quot;free speech&quot; go?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.post-15950626157504277362017-11-11T21:12:00.064+00:002017-11-11T21:12:00.064+00:00Kiri Tunks, who is an activist in the NUT, has cal...Kiri Tunks, who is an activist in the NUT, has called for comradely discussion in the gender politics row. Lasr night Tameside TUC questioned the attacks on Helen Steel, not so much because we the love the feminists but because we believe in free debate.N.V. Editornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.post-14982045435797702972017-11-09T22:01:52.381+00:002017-11-09T22:01:52.381+00:00On behalf of NV I have spoken to the organisers of...On behalf of NV I have spoken to the organisers of the Anarchist Bookfair, her colleague in the McDonald tussle &amp; the Blacklist Support Group with which Helen Steel is involved. I believe that they are all giving her their support. It would seem that she deserves support.bammyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13889214646896381113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.post-30460739053675875962017-11-09T21:43:48.655+00:002017-11-09T21:43:48.655+00:00Helen says its ok. Preferable to include access to...Helen says its ok. Preferable to include access to her full statementDavenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.post-21636247739891384882017-11-05T08:49:29.879+00:002017-11-05T08:49:29.879+00:00I am really grateful to the holder of this web sit...I am really grateful to the holder of this web sitye whoo has shared <br />this wonderfuhl piece of writing at here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.post-44777878510688391852017-11-04T11:18:39.841+00:002017-11-04T11:18:39.841+00:00The fact is that a woman was a victim here : he ap...The fact is that a woman was a victim here : he appears to have gained a victory over a technical issue on wording of rules. That still leaves the victim of his actions. Also from what I hear from friends still living in the area he hasn&#39;t been missed from any of the groups he was barred from and they have all got better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.post-73171977097287304902017-11-03T18:52:49.384+00:002017-11-03T18:52:49.384+00:00Why is this an issue that only affects women? Why ...Why is this an issue that only affects women? Why would anyone write ‘This will facilitate a proper space for the concerns of women and trans identifying people to be discussed’? Don’t we need a ‘proper space’ where everyone’s concerns can be discussed? <br />If you follow the embedded link to the ‘TERF’ page you will find a page listing tweets which incite killing of others and suggest ways of doing it. The police in Greater Manchester ask people to report hate crimes and I assume that other forces do the same. There are even posters bus stations. Why are the people making these tweets being allowed to get away with it? This is hate speech. If it were terrorists, Islamic, Neo-fascist or any other brand, who were doing this some action would have been taken to halt it. <br />Totalitarianism isn’t just something that Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini did a long time ago. The mentality which leads to it is alive and well and living in the UK as is exemplified by these tweets. <br />Les Maynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.post-75543049211637356502017-10-29T21:35:58.791+00:002017-10-29T21:35:58.791+00:00Wainwright was involved in blacklisting before he ...Wainwright was involved in blacklisting before he turned whistle-blower.trade unionistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.post-57216564642898013292017-10-21T14:01:23.261+01:002017-10-21T14:01:23.261+01:00I hope you can understand the whole thing...Read p...I hope you can understand the whole thing...Read público.es y la vanguardia(catalan newspaper). <br />El País is not anymore a right place to be informed...Carlos Figueroanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.post-81262252677933795132017-10-18T19:33:32.546+01:002017-10-18T19:33:32.546+01:00These local councils are still dishing out public ...These local councils are still dishing out public contracts to companies like Carillion, who have a history of blacklisting workers in the building trade. Blacklisted workernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.post-41268987275936078732017-10-18T09:12:35.757+01:002017-10-18T09:12:35.757+01:00Hello. Thank you Brian. this absolutely correct.
...Hello. Thank you Brian. this absolutely correct. <br />I am glad ,you understand it and explane clear. <br />Thanks. <br />Regards<br />GenaGenanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.post-33317971998193434142017-10-14T22:23:37.158+01:002017-10-14T22:23:37.158+01:00Read it and my first thought was this is going to ...Read it and my first thought was this is going to cause the woman involved more distress. <br /><br />It&#39;s a bit of a mess isn&#39;t it?michelenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.post-17575544395537878912017-10-13T15:07:17.406+01:002017-10-13T15:07:17.406+01:00Is Mr McFadden aware that Unite the Union has the ...Is Mr McFadden aware that Unite the Union has the right to appeal the Certification Officers&#39; judgment, when they are informed of his detailed reasoned arguments and that this potential appeal would go to the Employment Appeals Tribunal?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.post-53354984715346053282017-10-13T09:10:42.510+01:002017-10-13T09:10:42.510+01:00Thanks Brian, I&#39;ve posted this on Facebook gro...Thanks Brian, I&#39;ve posted this on Facebook groups for Unite Greater Manchester Area Activists and the unofficial group of Unite Greater Manchester Community Branch.<br />John Pnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.post-20717882238437093292017-10-12T13:32:36.054+01:002017-10-12T13:32:36.054+01:00Were Unite asked for a response before this was pu...Were Unite asked for a response before this was published. If not, why not? It is usual journalistic practice to ask the other party for a comment. Also, in what way did Unite breach its own rules and what remedies is Alec McFadden seeking? All this would have made for a much better report.Derek Pattison - Joint Editornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1043332942481206469.post-60223087312417213062017-10-11T00:29:49.764+01:002017-10-11T00:29:49.764+01:00Barry - Power will triumph over truth &amp; justic...Barry - Power will triumph over truth &amp; justice! The squeeze is being put on Wainwright&#39;s supporters by the Labour Party hacks in London. They don&#39;t want to damage Jeremy Corbyn&#39;s chances of getting into Downing Street &amp; Wainwright is challenging Len McCluskey who is a pal of Corbyn!politiconoreply@blogger.com