penny lane wrote:J Colony from MM's show said something thatGary Roberts is going to sleep/take the night to thinkabout trade to Pittsburgh.No offense to G Roberts, but If I am R Sheroand he says that to me, I say , throwing you back into the lake for others.

I agree with this. If he doesn't decide by, say, midnight, deal's off if I'm GM. There isn't enough time to let him screw around for 24 hours. And if he's taking that long, that tells me his heart isn't in it anyway. Move on to plan B.

pens20 wrote:I'm not going to read through the 500+ posts to see if this has been mentioned yet, but I read elsewhere that Roberts would be used on the second line, not Sid's, so perhaps Staal would get a chance on Sid's wing...

I believe the sequence you described is correct, but that can easily be explained by the Pens preferring to see Welch get top pair minutes in WB along with loads of special teams time instead of getting 3rd pair minutes here.

Thanks for confirming, I wasn't sure. That would pretty much have killed my argument.

If I also recall, they paired him with Whitney on the secound unit. If he could have showed more, I think they would have given him his minutes. I agree whole-heartidly he should get top minutes in WBS at this stage of development as oppossed to third pairing in Pittsburgh.

I'm not sure I trade a 24 year old defenceman just voted a starting AHL All Star for a 40 year old winger, regardless of whether he's regressed a little this year.

pens20 wrote:I'm not going to read through the 500+ posts to see if this has been mentioned yet, but I read elsewhere that Roberts would be used on the second line, not Sid's, so perhaps Staal would get a chance on Sid's wing...

possibly trade ouelett?? that clears a wing on the 2nd line..

I was thinking...

Staal/Crosby/RecchiRoberts/Malkin/Ouellet???

if thats the case, i look for the production from the 2nd line to drop drastically.. ouelett already contributes minimally, and malkin and staal have seemed to grow accustomed to play with each other. have to see if and how malkin can adjust...

pens20 wrote:I'm not going to read through the 500+ posts to see if this has been mentioned yet, but I read elsewhere that Roberts would be used on the second line, not Sid's, so perhaps Staal would get a chance on Sid's wing...

pens20 wrote:I'm not going to read through the 500+ posts to see if this has been mentioned yet, but I read elsewhere that Roberts would be used on the second line, not Sid's, so perhaps Staal would get a chance on Sid's wing...

possibly trade ouelett?? that clears a wing on the 2nd line..

I was thinking...

Staal/Crosby/RecchiRoberts/Malkin/Ouellet???

poor geno

slightly off-topic, I'm still waiting to see the jack-pot line
of :
Staal/Sid/Geno!

penny lane wrote:J Colony from MM's show said something thatGary Roberts is going to sleep/take the night to thinkabout trade to Pittsburgh.No offense to G Roberts, but If I am R Sheroand he says that to me, I say , throwing you back into the lake for others.

I agree with this. If he doesn't decide by, say, midnight, deal's off if I'm GM. There isn't enough time to let him screw around for 24 hours. And if he's taking that long, that tells me his heart isn't in it anyway. Move on to plan B.

Ehh, I don't know. Put yourself in his situation, it's not that easy a decision.

Given his history, if and when he decides to come to Pittsburgh, I wouldn't question his desire.

pens20 wrote:I'm not going to read through the 500+ posts to see if this has been mentioned yet, but I read elsewhere that Roberts would be used on the second line, not Sid's, so perhaps Staal would get a chance on Sid's wing...

ziggystardust wrote:and just like Orpik and Whitney, Welch can't actually play defense.

He had to be good at defense at some point. He would not have got to where he is if he could play defense at the previous levels.

After 27 NHL games, you are confident he won't adjust? I'm not.

Wow, if not for the black and gold on this site I would be SURE that this was a NY Rangers discussion board. "GET THAT VETERAN! GET THIS VETERAN! TRADE THE YOUNG GUYS!! WHO CARES??!! THEY CAN'T PLAY!! THE FUTURE IS NOW!!!" Roberts is 40 years old guys. He will be doing card shows and playing golf when the Penguins are the favorite to win the Cup in two of three years. A second round pick, sure. One of our top (if not THE TOP) defensive prospect? NO F'N WAY!

Guerin is 36 and is one year removed from scoring 13 GOALS IN 70 GAMES. I am not interested in seeing us give up a good young player and a #1 pick for him ever. And either of these guys could (and probably will) walk after this season. I hope these rumors are false. My opinion of Shero would drop considerably if they aren't.

The Penguins are not going to win the Cup this year and making deals as if they are would be DUMB. In two years we will be kicking ourselves that we let a guy like Welch go fo a 40 year old rent-a-player.

If the deadline is 9PM and he hasn't said anything yet, I'm starting to think this won't happen. that way, he won't look like too much of a bad guy. He didn't not waive his NTC. Just didn't do it in time.

I'd give him until 9PM, then move on.

These trades, or near trades, are starting to resemble a search for a new owner.

Paulie_WalnutzII wrote:If the deadline is 9PM and he hasn't said anything yet, I'm starting to think this won't happen. that way, he won't look like too much of a bad guy. He didn't not waive his NTC. Just didn't do it in time.

I'd give him until 9PM, then move on.

These trades, or near trades, are starting to resemble a search for a new owner.

I don't think anyone knows what Shero's deadline is. I've read 9pm, 10pm, and "Roberts told Shero he was going to sleep on it and get back to him in the morning."

If we do this deal, there has to be more to come! This one doesn't make sense for next year and I don't think it helps enough this year. We need Welch to turn into a solid defensive guy next year, that can still move the puck up. I don't think it's out of the question that turns into that. Florida probably agrees.

Paulie_WalnutzII wrote:If the deadline is 9PM and he hasn't said anything yet, I'm starting to think this won't happen. that way, he won't look like too much of a bad guy. He didn't not waive his NTC. Just didn't do it in time.

I'd give him until 9PM, then move on.

These trades, or near trades, are starting to resemble a search for a new owner.

I don't think anyone knows what Shero's deadline is. I've read 9pm, 10pm, and "Roberts told Shero he was going to sleep on it and get back to him in the morning."

I heard that Shero and Malkin will be visiting Roberts tonight and force him to waive his NTC at 3:00am.

Are they taking the radiator & something to beat Roberts about the Battery

Paulie_WalnutzII wrote:If the deadline is 9PM and he hasn't said anything yet, I'm starting to think this won't happen. that way, he won't look like too much of a bad guy. He didn't not waive his NTC. Just didn't do it in time.

I'd give him until 9PM, then move on.

These trades, or near trades, are starting to resemble a search for a new owner.

I don't think anyone knows what Shero's deadline is. I've read 9pm, 10pm, and "Roberts told Shero he was going to sleep on it and get back to him in the morning."

I heard that Shero and Malkin will be visiting Roberts tonight and force him to waive his NTC at 3:00am.

Then Roberts is going to flee once he gets to Pittsburgh and show up in Toronto or Ottowa in 2 weeks