Free-agent swingman Keith Bogans will sign a one-year contract with the San Antonio Spurs, sources confirmed Monday to FanHouse. Bogans, a solid defensive player, is being looked at as an heir apparent to Bruce Bowen, who retired recently after being San Antonio's perimeter defensive stopper throughout much of the decade.

He's a SG that's not a very good shooter and has never been much of a scorer. He's a decent defender, not great. Just not a big fan of his game.

Career (39 FG%- 35 3pt%)

disagree...
since when has bogans ever been a great defender?
if anything he's been an above average 3 point shooter... 2 seasons ago he was top 10 in 3 pointers made.... that coming from a guy who got about 20+ minutes a night. not too shabby IMO.

disagree...
since when has bogans ever been a great defender?
if anything he's been an above average 3 point shooter... 2 seasons ago he was top 10 in 3 pointers made.... that coming from a guy who got about 20+ minutes a night. not too shabby IMO.

he'll definitely hit the open shot for SAS next year. good pickup.

Who said he was a great defender? I said decent defender.

Ans as far as him being an above average 3pt shooter...he's a career 35% from 3pt range and last season with Orlando he shot 33% from 3. = Average at best

i'm not looking at his career percentages.... those can be decieving, especially if a guy hasnt been given an oppurtunity.
i was talking about what he did 2 seasons ago in orlando.
he hit 38% of his 3's and nailed 148 in total.... 7th best in the entire league.
if thats not impressive, i dont know what is.

i'm not looking at his career percentages.... those can be decieving, especially if a guy hasnt been given an oppurtunity.
i was talking about what he did 2 seasons ago in orlando.
he hit 38% of his 3's and nailed 148 in total.... 7th best in the entire league.
if thats not impressive, i dont know what is.

is SAS can utilize his jumper, they just got even more deadly.

Shooting % is not deceiving. It's about as straight up as it gets. BTW, 2 seasons ago he shot 36% from 3pt range i think you're reffering to 2006-07 season? Which i'll say was a pretty good season for him.

-how many buzzer beaters did he take?
-are the majority of his shots contested? how does he do with a hand in his face?
-is he being guarded by bigger players?
-how many of his shots are catch and shoot? off the dribble? in transition? against double teams? off screens?
-what teammates are drawing doubles? how free can he get?

all of these things and more will skew shooting percentages. they are an indicator, but if this is 'about as straight up as it gets' you are just providing more reasons not to entirely trust stats...

-how many buzzer beaters did he take?
-are the majority of his shots contested? how does he do with a hand in his face?
-is he being guarded by bigger players?
-how many of his shots are catch and shoot? off the dribble? in transition? against double teams? off screens?
-what teammates are drawing doubles? how free can he get?

all of these things and more will skew shooting percentages. they are an indicator, but if this is 'about as straight up as it gets' you are just providing more reasons not to entirely trust stats...

Good points. But you take X amount of shots and made X percentage. It's pretty straight forward, the player makes a conscious decision to take a shot. What are they supposed to do, break down clock management for every shot taken as well? Every stat can be broken down in that sense for the most part, i guess that's why most don't take stats too seriously, because there are varying reasons for the stats being what they are. But what is the percentage of his shots taken in late clock situations? To be honest, if one likes a player and that said player doesn't shoot that well they'll say well that's deceiving because this that & the other.

Does all that mean a 33% 3pt shooter takes more buzzer beaters then the 44% 3pt shooter?

the point isn't about finding a stat that is perfect, it's about not always relying on stats to give you the full picture. take a look at the quote that caused you to say that shooting % was about as straight up as it gets:

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i'm not looking at his career percentages.... those can be decieving, especially if a guy hasnt been given an oppurtunity.

At one point you say you don't take stats too seriously and then proceed to almost say why stats can should be taken somewhat seriously. It's weird circular knowledge.

What 'trane argued was that only pointing to shooting percentage doesn't necessarily dictate if one is a good shooter or not. Other variables occur. Bogans by all accounts is a decent shooter. He's not spectacular, but he's a good shooter.

What 'trane argued was that only pointing to shooting percentage doesn't necessarily dictate if one is a good shooter or not. Other variables occur. Bogans by all accounts is a decent shooter. He's not spectacular, but he's a good shooter.

I'm not coming accross clearly i apologize.

It doesn't dictate it obviously, i agree. But it is an indicator of what you can expect from a player, especially when a player has been in the league for several years. Stats aren't everything by any stretch, but they're part of it whether you like the player or not.

Bogans is an average shooter, below average at times. I said it earlier and i'll say it again, he's not great nor bad.

I'd say that Bogans is a good fit on any team. When he's in your lineup you know what to expect of him and you know that he won't screw up on D or take difficult shots. It is highly likely that he will grow as a player in San Antonio's playing style and he will get more open shots then he did in the other teams he played for. Good pickup.

Now they have:

PG Parker
SG Mason
SF Jefferson
PF/C Duncan
PF/C McDyess

Bonner is not starting over McDyess. Dyess averaged 10 and 10 last season. He also had one or two 20 rebound games last season.