For real, ya'll need to get off this die agp die crap, Im sick and tired of hearing it. AGP will probably be around for a good while longer, I mean, its not like they can kill it, and with peeps still keeping to it, they'd be crazy not to still support it in some form or fashion ::Rofl:: Anyways, to the topic at hand, these are nice cards and priced very well. Id like to see what DAaMit has up their sleeves when the R600 comes out and their lower priced cards. Kind of hard to match Nvidia on this if these prices are true.

Just note that these arent Vec4 shaders like we have on the X1900s or the 7900s, but actually scalar processors like we have on the 8800s. Scalars can only do one thing at a time, and Vec4 can do.. 4. However the clocks of the SPs are much higher (for some reason.... ?)

8600gt should be able to o/c to around 8600Ultra performance I'm guessing. This seems all nice, I think Im going to go for the 8600Ultra when I build my next rig. Hopefully that will be enough to play Crysis on pretty much max details and alil AA.

These cards look rather nice on paper. The 8600GT should be a good overclocker, but it depends on voltage controls and whether or not the card has dynamic voltage control. Only problem i see with the GT's is the fact that the memory bus is only 128bit.. I guess they realize that us enthusiests will overclock, and they had to create a true product difference.