I mean they are a smurf football team that plays inferior competition most of the year.

Yes, they are quick and have some great small fast guys at the skill positions. But their lines are a joke. Both offensive and defensive. And their overall defense has been pretty weak. Until that changes, I will mock them.

They are like Leach era TTU, TCU, etc... Gimmicky to obscure their weaknesses. Not that obscuring their weaknesses is a fault, but I just think that they are grossly overrated due to the Nike affiliation.

Well I guess over hyped/overrated teams are good enough to play for the NC and come within 3 points of winning. There offensive line is far from a weakness IMO. Defensive line, I agree with.

Inferior competition? They have been playing in the Pac 10 (12?), I wouldnt call that inferior competition, its one of the best conferences in the country. Cmon, you talk like they are playing in the big 10 or somethin lol.

They aren't overrated because of Nike, they are becoming an elite program because of Nike. They are getting hyped more and more because they are becoming a very good football team.

This is coming from a USC fan...

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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.

Well I guess over hyped/overrated teams are good enough to play for the NC and come within 3 points of winning. There offensive line is far from a weakness IMO. Defensive line, I agree with.

Inferior competition? They have been playing in the Pac 10 (12?), I wouldnt call that inferior competition, its one of the best conferences in the country. Cmon, you talk like they are playing in the big 10 or somethin lol.

They aren't overrated because of Nike, they are becoming an elite program because of Nike. They are getting hyped more and more because they are becoming a very good football team.

This is coming from a USC fan...

They are going to fade away. They aren't remotely the same caliber as USC during their heyday a few years ago.

You build programs with linemen and defense which they lack.

I think the Pac 10 has been poor the past few years. The major programs are still down. USC and Cal are subpar as compared to their recent performance level. UCLA is way down historically.

Stanford and Oregon are up. The Zona schools are confusing, if not bipolar.

The Pac10 is a fine conference wasn't ripping on it, just think they are down due to the dominant powers being down. At the same level last year as Big12 and Big11. They were all relatively the same.

SEC........lots of space........... Big11 Big12 Pac10 all close if not tied.....ACC...................................... ...............Big Least.

This doesn't change my opinion that I think LSU is going to roll Oregon.

true about the SEC. they are the top dog. i like the Pac-12 because its a different dog each year. with the big 10 its ohio state.. and then whoever has a good enough team that year to upset them, maybe.

i also just feel you're not giving oregon enough credit saying they would get rolled by LSU. I mean what game in the last 3-4 seasons makes you think LSU would roll anyone?

true about the SEC. they are the top dog. i like the Pac-12 because its a different dog each year. with the big 10 its ohio state.. and then whoever has a good enough team that year to upset them, maybe.

i also just feel you're not giving oregon enough credit saying they would get rolled by LSU. I mean what game in the last 3-4 seasons makes you think LSU would roll anyone?

I'm the guy that was dead certain that wisconsin was going to destroy tcu.

That's why I don't bet on sports. I'd rather have you guys dog me than lose real money :)

Slightly alters the game plan but not a huge blow. JJ was up and down last year with an equal number of bad games to good games and a lot of mediocre ones. LSU will lose the athleticism at QB and replace it with a more prototypical pocket passer. Lee has arguably a stronger arm and, despite his 2008 year, has proven to be slightly more accurate.

You must not have not have watched Oregon at all in the past few years. Their line isn't their strength but not much of a weakness either; yes they got abused by Fairley in the NC game but what O-Line didn't get abused by him last year?

Their defense was extremely underrated last year, they were the only defense Andrew Luck didn't tear up. They lost a lot of key starters from last year though. Losing Cliff Harris for this game doesn't help either.

ohio state's line dominated Oregon in the '10 Rose Bowl, Auburn owned Oregon up front in the NC, and now LSU owned Oregon up front tonight. They don't have the big bodies up front to win the big one with that gimmick offense, but they will win a lot of games and are getting there. Once they can start recruiting/developing good line talent they'll be winning championships with the talent they've been collecting at the skill positions.