As a person against this bill, I would like to state that I understand the intention of this bill. I have been watching this issue since President Obama mentioned his desire to provide a “service” program from before his election. I even read his entire proposal on his own website, which has since been altered.

Anyone who is not opposed to this bill, and especially those whom view the Constitution of the United States as outdated (more propaganda, as is that there is a difference between the 2 parties), need to do a bit of research into the history of Hitler and his Brownshirts. There is a wise saying which stands the test of time because it is periodically forgotten, and always to the detriment of free people – Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. This bill is an oxymoron to the definition of volunteering. Promoted by historically tested propaganda, the true intentions of the bill is none other than to indoctrinate the younger generation into a collectivist mindset, and then channeling their time and effort into projects approved by the state.

Not to mention the fact that it will cost us $5.7 BILLION. AND that there are provisions for special considerations for various minority groups. Ridiculous, bloated legislature from the Dems. Incredible.

I can understand your POV, certainly I know urban areas aren’t like rural areas where you can find 3 generations of entire families “running” at the same time – I think half of Washington Co MD have or are, part of Emergency Response Teams! (Or will be, my kid knew he wanted to be a paramedic since he was 4, he’s 22 now & going to school & running too!) I was an EMT & I met my current husband there, too. I say E.R.T. that way because we also have river rescue, living on the edge of both the Potomac & the Shenandoah, not to mention having the intersection of I-70 & I-81 in our county.

BUT, would you stop your trainees from going to church or participating in religious instruction? My guess your answer would be a shocked “NO!” Well, this bill will. I trust YOU, I don’t trust these Congresscritters as far as I can spit. I think that IF this was all it was, hey good deal! But to proscribe these children’s lives the way this bill intends? I think even you would seriously reconsider it.

foolish statement ….i AM agaist this bill and no it is not because i don’t understand…of course i know (we ) KNOW THAT americorps exisit..they recruit at our local mall…they give us test in high school to recruit …of course they exsist… Im against war and more goverment.

Anyone who is not opposed to this bill, and especially those whom view the Constitution of the United States as outdated (more propaganda, as is that there is a difference between the 2 parties), need to do a bit of research into the history of Hitler and his Brownshirts. There is a wise saying which stands the test of time because it is periodically forgotten, and always to the detriment of free people – Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. This bill is an oxymoron to the definition of volunteering. Promoted by historically tested propaganda, the true intentions of the bill is none other than to indoctrinate the younger generation into a collectivist mindset, and then channeling their time and effort into projects approved by the state. Take off your rose-colored glasses before you study this bill. It’s utterly frightening!

Take off your rose-colored glasses before you study this bill. It’s utterly frightening! Public education (our government schools) has groomed over two generations of brainwashed teachers now unknowingly passing the ‘collective/submissive’ propaganda down to today’s children. If you are still not convinced that a dictatorialship is knocking at the front door, google: ‘fbi spied tea party’, ‘dhs right-winged terrorists’, ‘miac retracts report’, ‘Lt Colonel Allen West on Michael Savage’, ‘pavlov conditioning education’, ‘who owns the media’. You must search for the truth, which now a days is very hard to accept or believe because it is just so Orwellian!

If you look at the bill in the Library of Congress record, you will see that the bill was introduced in the House with Title VI; Sec 6104 (Duties). It specifically outlines the author’s interest in MANDATORY SERVICE. It was struck before being voted on. Things that make you go hmmmmmm.

While it is true that this language was struck from THIS BILL, if you look in HR 1388, SEC. 4, (b), (6)… Hmmm that language sounds oddly familiar… oh that’s right, ITS THE SAME LANGUAGE, just in a different bill. My guess is that HR 1388 was taking too much flak, so they decided to abandon this language and instead try to sneak it by as a separate, much more focused bill.

Momobetta; apparently you believe in Nancy Pelosi’s definition of “bipartisan”. Did you look at the vote. Bipartisan under the current administration means Nancy and Harry are supposed to jam it down the throat of our citizens until they gag.
I see this as the Federal Government getting just as stupid as California’s government and running the country into the ground. Let’s just declare anarchy and give it all to the illegals and let the productive people pay for it all—-if they don’t get the courage to leave or fight!
Why aren’t Democrats OR Republicans interested in RESPONSIBLE government?

They are getting there. Sometimes in writing Bills they have to lay the ground work. Another layer of this bill you might wnat to look at is H.R.1444.

It is to set up a commission to study how they can make national service and other purposes a mandated service.

And don’t worry they have included as part of their studies, awareness development by creating, expanding, and promoting these service options, which they want to make mandatory, to include Primary and Secondary school students.

“Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime where of the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”

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