It's not quite right guys. Keep trying. ...having said that you're probably getting it closer than this lot at SOTM :D

At the hack weekend there was somebody from the BBC doing some recording of interviews for a radio 4 documentary. I did an interview with the same people a couple of days after. It will be interesting to hear how all of that edits down. (This is in addition to the BBC world service interview which already aired).

So a couple extra-non-pubular activities lately, but don't worry. We have also been to the pub!

The Gun pub in Spitalfields was an interesting place. Bit of a scruffy old man's boozer, but with a lot of suited city folks. Luckily the music was only blaringly loud at the entrance, so we had a good chat around a table further back. Here's Paul doing his best old-man-down-the-boozer impression:

I was talking about wedding planning, and how I need an "OpenWeddingBudget" site to let me find out what are some typical amounts to spend on certain things like flowers. It's one of those curious questions which is not entirely easy to find an answer to using google, partly because people don't tend to openly share information about how much they've spent on stuff. ...anyway I remember that conversation, but we probably also talked about maps!

As a wedding related aside, last week I was designing wedding invitations which included a map of Ilkley. Didn't have long to do it. We were sending bitmap files to printers at sort of 300/400dpi, so the old dilemma of pixel resolution in text labels cropped up again. A basic screenshot of a web map at its native resolution is not great for printing. It either needs to be stretched at bit making it blocky, or would end up with really tiny little text labels on the paper. Since it was a fairly small area of map I needed for our invitations, I was able to work in SVG. I decided to try out a Maperative SVG export for this. It has a special export especially for inkscape, which puts all the objects nicely in separate layers. Much easier to work with afterwards than Mapnik SVG exports from OpenStreetMap.org . Also I decided I rather liked the imitation google rendering rules which maperative comes with. At the end of the day google does have good cartographic style, and I find it amusing when people say "What's this Harry? Surely you should be using OpenStreetMap on your invites!". Here's a little 1:1 sample. Various things added afterwards in inkscape, and then exported to raster (at whatever resolution I choose). You can see the text is all big (hi res) enough to look good on a printout.

So anyway ...we left the pub and headed for burritos just down the road, and then afterwards we headed to a different pub. We walked (slightly further than expected) to the Crosse Keyes.

I remember discussing real ale there. Did we actually talk about maps at all? I'm not sure. On the way home grant was doing a bit of opencellid.org mapping. He was pleased to be picking up a lot wifi data in the city.

We had along a few new faces, the names for which I have forgotten, but great to have them along starting interesting conversations and ideas for new (open) mapping projects on topics such as "OpenSickMap", mapping occurrences of vomit which needs clearing up in the streets, and "OpenSexualSlangMap" mapping the words that kids are using when they're talking about having ...a bit of how's your father. Apparently this is quite varied but geographically clustered.

We also had along a guy visiting from the U.S. who works with Planetizen, producing video courses. He's interested in doing one for OpenStreetMap. I think I've mentioned video before as something we should totally do more of, but also something which is massively time consuming. With my various attempts I've picked up a few tricks, not necessarily to make my amateurish videos better, but to make them take a bit less time (At least if a video is going to look amateurish, it shouldn't be the unsatisfactory result of many hours of work) but maybe we have an opportunity to get some video professionals involved.

There were quite a few other topics of conversation, which I forget. You just have to be there... and you can be!