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on Thursday June 30, 2016 @12:44PM
from the in-other-news dept.

We finally know what N in Android N stands for: Nougat. Google made the announcement on Thursday. The Android maker always names smartphone operating system updates after candies and other sweet treats. The past few versions, for instances, are named Marshmallow, Eclair, Lollipop, and Marshmallow. Naming aside, Android N brings with it a range of interesting features such as multi-window support, better battery efficiency, and the ability to reply to messages straight from the notification. Enthusiasts who own a Nexus 6 or a newer Nexus device, can give a whirl to the preview of Android N on their device. The final version of Android N will be made available later this year.

Replying straight from the notification is nice. Ubuntu touch already does this, and I like it. However, I doubt Android will be able to win me back now that I have real Firefox working with xmir. Having uMatrix in my pocket is killer app.

KitKat was a marketing tie-in with Nestle. To do Nerds they would need to do another tie-in with Nestle. Perhaps they (Google or Nestle) decided the ROI wasn't there.

The rumor I've heard is that the tie-in with Nestle was complicated and imposed too many constraints on the software release process, making it unattractive to repeat it. Not because Nestle was bad about it, just the nature of collaboration between two very different sorts of companies.

Well, the other aspect of it was that there just aren't many well-known dessert-type foods [wikipedia.org] which start with K. Their name for it in beta was Key Lime Pie. And while I like key lime pie, I know many people do not. So they sought something with a more universal appeal, and KitKat bars fit the bill.

Nougat works just fine though. O is the next letter without a well-known dessert (at least not that I can think of, aside from anything starting with Orange) which has an extremely popular trademarked brand -

I like nougat. I don't know that I'd eat it entirely on its own, but Three Musketeers is one of my favorite candy bars,

Stop right there, you demented bastard. The "Three Musketeers" bar isn't known as "the candy bar that isn't a candy bar" for no reason. It's not called "The Bullshit Bar" just because it trips lovingly off the tongue.

Every time I ate a Three Musketeers bar I felt like I was being ripped off. No nuts inside, no cookie inside, no chocolate inside, no nothin' inside. It's like chocolate-covered Styrofoam without the delicious Styrofoam part.

It's as if they said, "How cheaply can we make something covered in ch

I suspect that you're talking about Mega-corp's Nougat-a-like Nougat Substitute sludge. Bear the same resemblance to real nougat that chocolate (e.g. Belgian or Swedish 75%+cocoa chocolate) bears to the chocolate flavoured milk-solids and vegetable fat confection which goes by the name of "milk chocolate".

I'm not great one for sweets, and generally I've remembered some horrible nougat-like concoctions from 40+years ago and just avoided it. But I also remember a concoction introduced to me while climbing i

I don't understand this at all. As far as I could tell, Google used the string "kitkit" instead of "kandy" or whatever, and Nestle paid Google some money for this. Why would there be any interplay between software or anything else?

Just because Hersheys chooses not to enforce their trademarked product name does not mean Nestlé would take the same stand. It is also possible that there were talks about the Kit Kat usage, who knows...

- toilet detection algorithms and might need to see an ad for toilet paper- wallet thickness detection, just in case you might have more money to spend- in-store-tracking to provide you with more relevant advertising for whatever, just in case- vehicle detection routines to provide you with more relevant automotive advertising- restaurant detection algorithms to provide you with more relevant food advertising- I'm-on-a-date detection routines to provide you with more relevant condom advertising (probably never used)- at-home-on-couch detection routines to provide you with more relevant television advertising- baby-crying sound detection routines to provide you with more relevant infant product advertising- enhanced voice parsing to detect what products you might be talking about for better product advertising- oh yeah and some minor changes to shit about security or whatever, just trust us

You know what's great about old people? You wait a little while and they'll be dead people. All their bigotries, all their ignorance, all of their backwards, self-important ideals will be bug-food like the rest of them.

You seem a little tightly-wound. Are you okay? I mean that in all seriousness- your response just seems way out of band for a silly comment like mine. It seems like the response an unhappy, stressed out person would make, not someone who would be able to chuckle at something that most people find funny. So really, are you bent out of shape about something today, or are you always this touchy?

I've never tried Hershey's chocolate, but I've heard a lot of people from the United Kingdom really don't like the flavour.

There are a number of explanations, most of which do involve butyric acid as Threni has already mentioned. Specifically [quora.com]:-

Another key difference between US and UK chocolate is that much US chocolate uses milk that has undergone lipolysis, a process that partially breaks down the fatty acids in milk. This is another historical anomaly in the evolution of chocolate production. In the early 20th century, the process of partially souring milk through lipolysis was used to stabilize milk chocolate, as the resulting milk chocolate could be stored for longer periods of time before its taste changed for the worse. [..] The advantage of the process is that further breakdown of fats in milk is slowed, and subsequent fermentation is reduced. The "milk" taste also lasts longer, before either fading or turning into bad-tasting compounds. The down-side is that the process releases butyric acid [my emphasis], one of the fatty acids present in milk. Butyric acid is the fat component responsible for the smell of parmesan cheese and baby vomit.

In short, US production techniques improve the long life stability at the expense of producing compounds that- to those not used to them- smell like baby sick et al, but to those brought up on baby-sick-fl

I guess I was lucky when I tried some imported Reese's peanut butter "Christmas tree" confectionery, and the "chocolate" coating- can't even remember for sure if it was "chocolate" (by the US definition of the word!) or "chocolate flavor"- merely tasted like sweetened wax.

Yeah, Reese's chocolate is pretty much a waxy brown substance entirely different from chocolate. It doesn't even taste as far as I have noticed.

News to me too, though I do actually understand the chemistry involved.

Surely, the obvious answer to the problem of your "chocolate" rotting in storage is to make a product that tastes good enough that it sells before it rots on the shelves. But for corporate sludge-making entities, that doesn't seem to be profitable enough.

I'd long ago stopped buying the products of American sludge corporations (greatly helped by the spread of European retail companies into Britain over the last few years - they greatly

I'm genuinely curious: What disaster? As far as I was aware, Google and Nestle both got boatloads of publicity out of that naming choice. I don't remember any headlines suggesting otherwise. Where was the disaster?

Nutella may still be trying to push the idea that's it's healthy, so wouldn't want to be labeled as a desert.

I've never read the label of the stuff - though my step-daughter insists on it being in the house when she visits - but apparently it is [foodwatch.com.au] (1) 54.4% by weight sugar, and (2) Nutella Corp are not keen on disclosing this.

(Also, 30% w/w fat, 13% nuts, and 7% cocoa solids. Just to make sure you've got a good picture.)

I don't care very much about most new features. I wish more energy was spent getting Bluetooth working better. Lots of people seem to be having issues with car audio in Marshmallow including me (Nexus 5X). My Nexus 4 was solid.

What problem do you have? I have the Nexus 5X, and the only issue that I have worth complaining about is Maps being like twice as loud as the other party when I answer a call, but that is a general Maps issue on every Android phone I have had.

I run Amazon Prime Music (radio stations) for music, and have never had any exceptional issues over my Toyota Tundra 2012 stereo's Bluetooth connection.