Okay, could you talk about some of the coalitions that you put together nationally as well as locally? Some of the local leaders, some of the--

CARL STOKES:

In the campaign?

LOUIS MASSIAH:

In, in the campaign, uh, this is prior to election night. The coalition that came together, and just some of the support that you received that, that helped.

CARL STOKES:

In, in the 1965 and 1967 election there was no involvement of national groups in the Cleveland election. We were very careful to keep it that way and, and the, uh, process was done here through leadership from the NAACP, the Urban League, uh, the Plain Dealer that--I'm sorry. Not the Plain Dealer. The Call And Post which was a, was a Black uh, uh, weekly that was run by a man by the name of William O. Walker.

LOUIS MASSIAH:

Let, let's just start that once again. I was wondering about any national leaders like Hubert Humphrey, I mean, people who, who really were supporting your candidacy, as well as local groups, Call And Post--

CARL STOKES:

There was none, I just told you, that there weren't any national groups.