Originally posted by whatnext21
so less than 2 hours of inactivity and this drops off the recent activity board? With something this big and concerning, i don't understand why
there aren't more updates from those living in the area. A lot of strange things happening everywhere, i guess

Maybe. OR maybe the lack of confirmed reports from people actually living in the area points to this not actually being the incident a few alarmist
websites are claiming.

You will note the some stations do not respond. Those may be some that were serviced by the same feed as The Radiation Network (as they claim). #18
where the incident happened is still available and never stopping charting.

Here is a screen shot of the Indiana/Michigan border area I took a few hours ago. I checked many other Black Cat sites and most were running with the
main exception being the west coast then. Now it is deadsville.

Originally posted by whatnext21
so less than 2 hours of inactivity and this drops off the recent activity board? With something this big and concerning, i don't understand why
there aren't more updates from those living in the area. A lot of strange things happening everywhere, i guess

Maybe. OR maybe the lack of confirmed reports from people actually living in the area points to this not actually being the incident a few alarmist
websites are claiming.

_Skeptically Yours,

stang

Sometimes I have to wonder. There are a few people on ATS that seem to think everyone should wait until something is on mainstream news, which it will
be when what happens is clear, unless it is something withheld from the public. Or if it turns out to be nothing...

This kind of site is great for getting to the first glimpse of possible news and info that either has not become available to the public yet or will
never be made available.

Why is that a problem? The posting of information however small that could lead to the future stories that then reach mainstream news.

If hearing the first hand accounts and rumors and guesses and suppositions disagrees with a person, why don't they go to the CNN site or something
and not read this stuff?

They won't get any new spectacular news when and if it comes first but eventually, and you can have more trust that the story is true...right.

I keep checking the Black Cat map and someone is changing the numbers at the New Orleans site that had the huge spike before system went down. I have
counted at least 6 different numbers given for this location. What the heck?

NOTHING i've said implies that this being reported on the "MSM' means it is or isnt real. I said NOTHING about the 'mainstream media'/

Ha i did actually states was that IF this were real, there would be FAR more than a few unverified reports on a ad-heavy blog. There would be TONS of
posts from all over the area

Too many people on ATS scramble to believe the most hysterical, outrageous story's out there and REJECT everything that contradicts it. That is not
eying ignorance. It's embracing it.

There is where we differ...I don't see them believing anything.

I see them questioning as they should and looking for answers and truth. I think it is a worthwhile thing... and when there are threads based on
nothing they will quickly die, this is a culling process that works well if people will stop saying the process should not even start.

Some actually try to intimidate people into not having their thoughts aired at all. I don't see why those particular people (not meaning yourself) do
not just leave peoples discussions to those that wish to discuss!

We are not all extremely intelligent or have a lot of information on given subjects but we all deserve to ask our questions, have our ideas put out
there and contemplate the unknown or even unknowable as we see fit.

Other states are high including North Dakota where this drill initiated.

edit on 6/9/2012 by sad_eyed_lady because: (no reason given)

Those numbers are not 'high'. The website you reference shows some areas as being at or above 0.4 pCi/L. The website then admits that "The
national average of outside radon levels is 0.4 pCi/L ", so calling the 'average' 'High" is you misconstruing the data. Thy offer no such
qualification for 'low medium high'. You are merely assuming the highest rating they show is considered 'high' without even reading the rest of
the website to see what would ACTUALLY construe 'high'.

Black Cat is showing graphs again. #18 at Indiana and Michigan stopped at 9:25 this AM and has not restarted. www.blackcatsystems.com...

Other sites including the ones in California are showing current readings.

I would have had a cow if I was watching the Indy/Michigan reading spike like that.

I found this at reddit and even though I posted it on another link I wanted to share it with the readers of this thread because it contains more than
a little truth:

I think it should be noted that if officials at a nuclear plant didn't lie about (or downsize) the size of a nuclear leak, that would probably be
the first time in history.
When you# up at a nuclear plant, you lie about it. Look at Fukushima. At the very least, you half-lie. This is your job. You work for a publicly
traded power co. that has thousands of shareholders. The board is full of old-ass tycoons who tell you to paint a pretty picture.
All of a sudden, your brain considers that you may have contributed to endangering the entire community. Selection bias, rationalization, and other
psychological influences take over (especially in the type A upper mgmt.)
All is well. The situation is under control.

Here in Los Angeles, there's a bright orange glow on the horizon that's dissipating. I've been seeing it every day about this time and it's
quite similar to one that appears on the OPPOSITE horizon about twelve hours later. I'm out of potassium iodide, so I'm drinking pen ink at this
point, just in case.

I live about two hours or so southeast of South Bend and I have been seeing helicopters for about three weeks now, heading in that general direction,
4-8 times a week. Some are military, some are not, and one in particular seems to come and go at odd hours. I've started a thread about the spike in
air traffic, but it didn't garner much attention. At the time it all started I wondered if it was about the ramping up for Iran or Syria, or that it
had to do with the NATO summit in Chicago, but now.....who knows?

If someone could explain why a helicopter would need to take almost daily trips to.....I don't know....across a very rural part of Indiana at 6-8
P.M. returning at 1-3 A.M. I certainly would like to hear it. It's weird and now with whatever the hell is going on up north, even more so. Further
more, there seems to be quite a few Hoosiers on ATS in my general vicinity, so I have to ask if I'm the only one seeing helicopters where they
didn't used to be.

Maybe I'm crazier than I thought I was......

Although, I thought you were supposed to see black helicopters when you were losing it......

NOTHING i've said implies that this being reported on the "MSM' means it is or isnt real. I said NOTHING about the 'mainstream media'/

Ha i did actually states was that IF this were real, there would be FAR more than a few unverified reports on a ad-heavy blog. There would be TONS of
posts from all over the area

Too many people on ATS scramble to believe the most hysterical, outrageous story's out there and REJECT everything that contradicts it. That is not
eying ignorance. It's embracing it.

There is where we differ...I don't see them believing anything.

I see them questioning as they should and looking for answers and truth. I think it is a worthwhile thing... and when there are threads based on
nothing they will quickly die, this is a culling process that works well if people will stop saying the process should not even start.

Some actually try to intimidate people into not having their thoughts aired at all. I don't see why those particular people (not meaning yourself) do
not just leave peoples discussions to those that wish to discuss!

We are not all extremely intelligent or have a lot of information on given subjects but we all deserve to ask our questions, have our ideas put out
there and contemplate the unknown or even unknowable as we see fit.

I agree. You ask questions. You HAVE to. You put out theories and you talk about off the wall things because truth is stranger than fiction and the
further out you cast your line, the more likely you are to find something new.

This is not a " hard news" site. It's a discussion board. It's supposed to be full of opinions and ideas and unverified facts. Some things, and
ususally the most important things, will NEVER be verified. That's why they're, um, ABOVE TOP SECRET. If any of this craziness was admitted or
verified in a mainstream way, we wouldn't need to be trying to root it out. And....*laughing*.....that would most likely mean it wasn't true.

I'm sick of the Empirical Evidence Squad running in and demanding pictures?!links?! for every opinion or theory someone has and if you can't provide
it, mocking and belittling people. Did Art Bell laugh in people's faces for entertaining the possibilities? Does George Noory? No, they offer a place
to chat and consider. So does ATS. If you want to mock, form your own board. This is a place for dreamers and insomniacs, paranoids, weirdos, and
seekers. We get enough mocking from the outside, mainstream, narrow-minded world, this place is supposed to be sanctuary from tourists who think it's
fun or funny to belittle that which they don't understand. You have a whole outside world that is yours, leave our places alone.

NOTHING i've said implies that this being reported on the "MSM' means it is or isnt real. I said NOTHING about the 'mainstream media'/

Ha i did actually states was that IF this were real, there would be FAR more than a few unverified reports on a ad-heavy blog. There would be TONS of
posts from all over the area

Too many people on ATS scramble to believe the most hysterical, outrageous story's out there and REJECT everything that contradicts it. That is not
eying ignorance. It's embracing it.

There is where we differ...I don't see them believing anything.

I see them questioning as they should and looking for answers and truth. I think it is a worthwhile thing... and when there are threads based on
nothing they will quickly die, this is a culling process that works well if people will stop saying the process should not even start.

Some actually try to intimidate people into not having their thoughts aired at all. I don't see why those particular people (not meaning yourself) do
not just leave peoples discussions to those that wish to discuss!

We are not all extremely intelligent or have a lot of information on given subjects but we all deserve to ask our questions, have our ideas put out
there and contemplate the unknown or even unknowable as we see fit.

I agree. You ask questions. You HAVE to. You put out theories and you talk about off the wall things because truth is stranger than fiction and the
further out you cast your line, the more likely you are to find something new.

This is not a " hard news" site. It's a discussion board. It's supposed to be full of opinions and ideas and unverified facts. Some things, and
ususally the most important things, will NEVER be verified. That's why they're, um, ABOVE TOP SECRET. If any of this craziness was admitted or
verified in a mainstream way, we wouldn't need to be trying to root it out. And....*laughing*.....that would most likely mean it wasn't true.

I'm sick of the Empirical Evidence Squad running in and demanding pictures?!links?! for every opinion or theory someone has and if you can't provide
it, mocking and belittling people. Did Art Bell laugh in people's faces for entertaining the possibilities? Does George Noory? No, they offer a place
to chat and consider. So does ATS. If you want to mock, form your own board. This is a place for dreamers and insomniacs, paranoids, weirdos, and
seekers. We get enough mocking from the outside, mainstream, narrow-minded world, this place is supposed to be sanctuary from tourists who think it's
fun or funny to belittle that which they don't understand. You have a whole outside world that is yours, leave our places alone.

And I think the OP of this thread is infinitely excellent.

If what you're saying is 'if it falls away, it may have been real'....then, yeah.

I'm sick of the Empirical Evidence Squad running in and demanding pictures?!links?! for every opinion or theory someone has and if you can't provide
it, mocking and belittling people.

And I'M tired of the 'I'll believe any crap posted on an ad-heavy crap blog that affirms what I have already chosen to believe as true ven if it has
NO EVIDENCE and contradicts itself several times" posse.

But that's because I'm a fan of facts, not blind, ignorant conjecture that wallows in lies.

Just because it's conjecture doesn't mean it's ignorant. Anyone who understands what science is surely knows that. Or are you confusing ignorant
with stupid? The first step in finding facts or answers is asking the questions. All the questions, especially crazy ones.

You like to live in the world of hard evidence. Ok, that's fine, Joe Friday. I certainly don't have a problem with anyone who wants to wait and see.
I do that myself. The difference being, I like to have the " out there" conversations while I wait. See if anything sticks. But I don't mock,
because it is rude and condescending. Which begs the question, why are you at a site that *specifically* states that it is open and welcoming of
theories and unverified facts? It seems like the only reason for someone who doesn't like to theorize to come to a site like this is to mock and
troll.

If there is nothing to worry about why doesn't the EPA come out and issue a statement? Not that anyone of us would believe it. Honestly a nuclear
incident rated as severe by Ub-Alert and they haven't said diddly squat.

Maybe the are in those underground tunnels and can't be reached. (kidding - I hope).

What a lame government. The less they say the more we wonder. I have noticed with this Administration when there is a crisis they put it on ignore for
as long as they can.

I'm sick of the Empirical Evidence Squad running in and demanding pictures?!links?! for every opinion or theory someone has and if you can't provide
it, mocking and belittling people.

And I'M tired of the 'I'll believe any crap posted on an ad-heavy crap blog that affirms what I have already chosen to believe as true ven if it
has NO EVIDENCE and contradicts itself several times" posse.

But that's because I'm a fan of facts, not blind, ignorant conjecture that wallows in lies.

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reason given)

So puzzling...Why are you not on one of those facts sites or on a facts only thread and still on this one page 6? What drives you to come back to it?

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