A buddy of mine had an 870 in 20 gauge and it was prone to jamming when it got a little dirty.

based on what I have heard, the newer production remingtons are not nearly the same quality as the older ones. My dads 1100 from the early 1980s is covered in rust and has probably been cleaned 2 times in its lifetime and I have never seen it jam or malfunction

If the cheap shells over expand and stick in the chamber, the same should happen in any gun. That would seem to be faulty ammunition. Why would you blame the gun?

Blame doesn’t enter into it. I still have the gun and love it. I did polish the chamber. But there are reasons a gun might jam besides short shucking. I’m also not 100% sure it would happen in any gun. Seems like a question of tolerances, which are have some variability.

If the cheap shells over expand and stick in the chamber, the same should happen in any gun. That would seem to be faulty ammunition. Why would you blame the gun?

Blame doesn’t enter into it. I still have the gun and love it. I did polish the chamber. But there are reasons a gun might jam besides short shucking. I’m also not 100% sure it would happen in any gun. Seems like a question of tolerances, which are have some variability.

True, but everybody's supposed to be working to the same SAAMI chamber dimensions and tolerances.

A buddy of mine had an 870 in 20 gauge and it was prone to jamming when it got a little dirty.

based on what I have heard, the newer production remingtons are not nearly the same quality as the older ones. My dads 1100 from the early 1980s is covered in rust and has probably been cleaned 2 times in its lifetime and I have never seen it jam or malfunction

Not exactly sure if an 870 Super Magnum SP-T that`s `05-`07 vintage would qualify as an " older one " , but that thing is absolutely rock solid. No rattles, tight action. Shoots straight and shucks everything with authority.

To be fair there have been reports of 870 Express guns having sticky chambers, but I’ve never heard the same complaint about a Wingmaster. I had a brand new Wingmaster 16 ga quite a few years ago that would not extract the spent hull from the chamber. It wasn’t the ammunition, and it wasn’t the chamber. The extractor wasn’t getting a good enough “bite” on the rim of the shell head. I took out the extractor and dressed it lightly with a file to give it more “bite” and the problem was eliminated 100%. This was a brand new gun. So sometimes the problem might not be obvious. With nearly 14,000,000 sold, the 870 design is certainly one of the most time proven of any gun, regardless of the ammunition that you choose to use.