David Gilmour To Appeal Against Son's Jailing

Pink Floyd's Dave Gilmour is set to appeal against the 16 month prison sentence handed to his son for violent disorder.
As reported by the Evening Standard, their solicitor Robert Brown confirmed the family are "actively considering grounds for appeal".
They are said to be hopeful of cutting his sentence.
Charlie Gilmour, 21, was sentenced after pleading guilty to charges that including defacing the Cenotaph, throwing a bin at a car carrying Prince Charles and smashing a window.
When the judge, Nicholas Price QC, passed sentence he said, "Such outrageous and deeply offensive behaviour gives a clear indication of how out of control you were that day."
The Daily Mail reports that Charlie had taken a cocktail of drugs, including LSD, Valium and whiskey, when he took part in the protests last year (November 2010), over the hike in tuition fees.
Charlie Gilmour, the biological son of Dave Gilmour's wife, Polly Samson, and adopted by the musician, has apologised for his actions, saying it was "a moment of idiocy."
Thanks for the report to NME.com.

Why is it relevant he took LSD and Valium before? Valium effectively cancels out LSD, and if he was on Valium, he'd have been far too sedate to riot like that. The only thing that would have contributed to his behaviour would have been the whiskey.
And what sort of idiot "turns towards LSD" (he mentioned this after being rejected by his biological father), it won't make you forget your problems, it just amplifies however you are feeling a hundred fold, so it'd do quite the opposite.

Basically, he screwed up and should man-up and take responsibility for his actions. Fortunately, no one was hurt during his rampage. Regardless of whether Prince Chuck deserves a thrashing or not, it's till inappropriate behaviour and "THEY" love it when someone flips out like that. It allows them to tighten up the screws a ilttle more.

nargoth wrote:
Why is it relevant he took LSD and Valium before? Valium effectively cancels out LSD, and if he was on Valium, he'd have been far too sedate to riot like that. The only thing that would have contributed to his behaviour would have been the whiskey.
And what sort of idiot "turns towards LSD" (he mentioned this after being rejected by his biological father), it won't make you forget your problems, it just amplifies however you are feeling a hundred fold, so it'd do quite the opposite.

Not at all. First off, no two people react to the same drug in the same manner. Most stimulants actually act as depressants in my body. Also, a sedative such as Valium won't counteract a psychadelic ergoline such as LSD. Maybe had he taken some speed and then Valium your theory would work, but he didn't.
In any case, I hate it when people use drugs and alcohol as a scapegoat for their poor decisions. Yes, they do alter your state of mind but 1) You're the one who ingested the drugs so you should be prepared to face any consequences from your actions thereafter and 2) You are still making the decisions - no one is forcing you to do anything. He should serve is 16 months and move on with his life.

In the English criminal courts system a guilty plea automatically results in 1/3 off of the sentence. Meaning if he had pleaded innocence, he would have been locked up for 24 months.
How on Earth can it be considered fair and just to lock a kid up for 2 years for this?
I recommend reading the excellent article in the Daily Mail for a pretty good summation of how ridiculous this is.
(p.s. I wouldn't normally even use the Daily Mail as toilet paper, but that particular article was quite good)

Clearly being made an example of. Pete Doherty, for example, has committed over 20 offences, though mostly drug related, in his lifetime and is only just getting some proper jail time for doing so which is six months and he'll probably get off early like he has before. They've just banged this kid up for nearly three times that amount on his first offence and he barely caused much damage to anything bar the car with the dustbin. Woulda been easier just to give him a hefty fine, at least they can put that back into the crippled economy. Locking him up is just going to take up another cell that could be used to hold rapists and murderers

I think that his actions were justified tbh...I was just as pissed off that day when the Tories said I couldnt have an education because Im not rich enough. What is this a third world country? That aside, he should have a statue erected of him just for trashing the Prince Charles car.

sticksause :
It's relevant that he took LSD and Valium because they really say something about his character at the time. The kid likes messing with drugs and causing trouble.
And youre probably a computer nerd that works at gamestop. You must be on lunch break because i know that you wouldn't cut into your world of warcraft time to go on a guitar website.

nargoth wrote:
sticksause wrote:
It's relevant that he took LSD and Valium because they really say something about his character at the time. The kid likes messing with drugs and causing trouble.
I like using LSD and not causing trouble, just listen to music, or play guitar in my house, or go on a nature walk looking at beautiful trippy fractal trees. Ha, now where is your logic?

Try it when you are with your girlfriend....you wont believe how intense/enjoyable it makes sex...

Defacing a Cenotaph?! Wow David Gilmour, I wish my rich rockstar daddy could've bailed me out whenever I was disrespectful and being a f*cking *****.
Lets ask the veterans who honor that cenotaph every year for the sake of their fallen friends and family members they fought with if the Rich rockstars spoiled sh*thead son should be allowed out of jail earlier.
What a load of B.S. the penal system in western society is.
I don't care what the kid was on either. Its too bad someone doesn't beat the crap out of him.

"All in all it's just, another brick in the wall." I mean, it wan't about "money." The kid was obviously "comfortably numb." Poor kid was probably missing his biological dad. He was probably chanting, "wish you were here." "Time" will tell if the boy plans on "coming back to life." In the meantime, we'll see him on "the dark side of the moon." "Hey You," stop crying!

really, it is interesting that they singled out David Gilmour's adopted son. I can't find where anyone else was charged with anything when this "protest" turned into a "riot". Nobody was hurt, and civil disobedience is a noble pursuit. I think they should make him pay for any damage to property he caused and put him on probation. It is ridiculous to me to put a college student in prison for over a year for getting a little out of hand at a protest where no one was even hurt.

harpcicle wrote:
Clearly being made an example of. Pete Doherty, for example, has committed over 20 offences, though mostly drug related, in his lifetime and is only just getting some proper jail time for doing so which is six months and he'll probably get off early like he has before. They've just banged this kid up for nearly three times that amount on his first offence and he barely caused much damage to anything bar the car with the dustbin. Woulda been easier just to give him a hefty fine, at least they can put that back into the crippled economy. Locking him up is just going to take up another cell that could be used to hold rapists and murderers

johnyguitar wrote:
My guess is that the majority of his sentence is related to the fact that he threw the object at the car carrying a member of Britains biggest emmaressment/farce...a member of the royal family

They only jailed Gilmour's son because they knew it would get huge publicity, too. It's about sending a message, a politically motivated message to any dissatisfied people in the UK. His behaviour was unacceptable, putting aside my republican beliefs, he did throw a bin at a car carrying people - which is criminal damage at the very least.
I bet there's a whole lot more kids who got away with it though because they're not famous people's kids and therefore not worth pursuing as the media won't cover them.

archerkoala wrote:
You could say it was a....momentary lapse of reason?

dmaccy06 wrote:
"All in all it's just, another brick in the wall." I mean, it wan't about "money." The kid was obviously "comfortably numb." Poor kid was probably missing his biological dad. He was probably chanting, "wish you were here." "Time" will tell if the boy plans on "coming back to life." In the meantime, we'll see him on "the dark side of the moon." "Hey You," stop crying!

Metal_Militia15 wrote:
archerkoala wrote:
You could say it was a....momentary lapse of reason?
You know you really shouldn't Meddle with things like that.

let him bloody rot the disrespectfu, spoilt little s**t. Like 9 grand uni fees are a problem to him anyway. Hopefully some big bloke will take a liking to him in prison and make him his "special friend".

johnyguitar wrote:
nargoth wrote:
sticksause wrote:
It's relevant that he took LSD and Valium because they really say something about his character at the time. The kid likes messing with drugs and causing trouble.
I like using LSD and not causing trouble, just listen to music, or play guitar in my house, or go on a nature walk looking at beautiful trippy fractal trees. Ha, now where is your logic?
Try it when you are with your girlfriend....you wont believe how intense/enjoyable it makes sex...

Mazzakazza wrote:
"and whiskey"
Some people say Alcohol is a drug. It's not a drug. It's a drink.

"A drug, broadly speaking, is any substance that, when absorbed into the body of a living organism, alters normal bodily function."
You my friend, fail.
A drink is, for example, a White Russian... which contains the drug known as Alcohol.

Kelicon wrote:
Mazzakazza wrote:
"and whiskey"
Some people say Alcohol is a drug. It's not a drug. It's a drink.
"A drug, broadly speaking, is any substance that, when absorbed into the body of a living organism, alters normal bodily function."
You my friend, fail.
A drink is, for example, a White Russian... which contains the drug known as Alcohol.

DW, you've never seen Brass Eye and missed the reference. I ain't even mad brah.

foopeppers wrote:
I think that his actions were justified tbh...I was just as pissed off that day when the Tories said I couldnt have an education because Im not rich enough. What is this a third world country? That aside, he should have a statue erected of him just for trashing the Prince Charles car.

Yeah, you can be pissed off about the fees all you want but that in no way justifies swinging from a flag on the effing Cenotaph.

Guitar_Joe wrote:
let him bloody rot the disrespectfu, spoilt little s**t. Like 9 grand uni fees are a problem to him anyway. Hopefully some big bloke will take a liking to him in prison and make him his "special friend".

Because people should only oppose something ridiculous if it affects them directly?

nargoth wrote:
Why is it relevant he took LSD and Valium before? Valium effectively cancels out LSD, and if he was on Valium, he'd have been far too sedate to riot like that. The only thing that would have contributed to his behaviour would have been the whiskey.
And what sort of idiot "turns towards LSD" (he mentioned this after being rejected by his biological father), it won't make you forget your problems, it just amplifies however you are feeling a hundred fold, so it'd do quite the opposite.

the only reason there doing this is to show people when you **** with the government that they have power over you, so don't **** with them, and they are using famous people now because when you see something about david gilmour you are 99/100 times going to click it

I had High Hopes when I saw a UG title with David Gilmour in the title but am now Lost For Words at his sons actions. He can't really Take It Back now. He can Keep Talking all he likes but it's not going to change what he did.

I find it interesting that he gets a sentence like this for "Such outrageous and deeply offensive behavior" which i guess refers to the cenotaph. I seem to remember an episode where a certain group spent remembrance Sunday burning poppies, i seem to remember that nothing much happened to those fu*kers!

little_wingjimi wrote:
I find it interesting that he gets a sentence like this for "Such outrageous and deeply offensive behavior" which i guess refers to the cenotaph. I seem to remember an episode where a certain group spent remembrance Sunday burning poppies, i seem to remember that nothing much happened to those fu*kers!

Burgery wrote:
Should have gone On The Run. I guess he'll have to do his Time.

But this punishment is a bit extreme, don't you think? They treated him like Arnold Layne, putting him behind The Wall with a bunch of Animals.
But then again, he could have used his time constructively and tried Learning To Fly.

UK is a country which has pretty much banned self defense against criminal actions. Arrested someone who had a razor knife for cutting up cartons in his car. Why not throw the book at someone who acts like an ass in public. At least David has tried to keep himself somewhat in the background (except for hiring the lawyer). IE no public comments. He let the kid take most of the heat for his actions. That said a 16 month jail sentence is a little harsh. Here in the US he would have got at most a years probation.

nailsarecruel wrote:
Burgery wrote:
Should have gone On The Run. I guess he'll have to do his Time.
But this punishment is a bit extreme, don't you think? They treated him like Arnold Layne, putting him behind The Wall with a bunch of Animals.
But then again, he could have used his time constructively and tried Learning To Fly.

Well let's just hope that those drugs didn't cause any Brain Damage, or his Trial could be sort of not pleasant for everyone.

Because people should only oppose something ridiculous if it affects them directly?

I've got no problem with people opposing anything, freedom of speech is something that people are happy to fight and die for in many country's so I've got no people exerting that right over here in the UK where we already have it. However a majority of the students including Gilmour's son were a disgrace, that wasn't protesting that was a bunch of little s**ts causing havoc thinking they were "fighting the power" or something and ruining the proper protest for those who wanted to do it peacefully.
To put it in perspective you had students over here like Charlier Gilmour who is 21, thinking he was doing us all a great favour by jumping all over the cenotaph, when there people out in Iraq and Afghanistan younger then him fighting and dying for our country so that he can be safe at home to abuse his right to protest and to freedom of speech. A right that he wouldn't have anyway if those who the cenotaph commemorates didn't protect it all them years ago.
Rant over