tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666226609376223220.post5688741447023528604..comments2012-10-14T06:36:43.136-04:00Comments on 5B4: The Americans: Spanish and Mandarin editionsMr. Whisketsnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666226609376223220.post-66551972936599309662009-04-07T06:05:00.000-04:002009-04-07T06:05:00.000-04:00I am very keen to find out more about the actual t...I am very keen to find out more about the actual text that was published in the original french version of Les Americains, which was gathered by Alain Bosquet. Any help would be appreciated.Samhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01035186748702890758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666226609376223220.post-71109858902022360832008-08-03T09:02:00.000-04:002008-08-03T09:02:00.000-04:00Chinese Simplified is a big joke,nobody understand...Chinese Simplified is a big joke,<BR/>nobody understand the description<BR/>about the Americans by Robert Frank since the interpretation is<BR/>too poor. : ) <BR/><BR/>Steidl publishing / Robert Frank<BR/>just want to sell their books to<BR/>China, but the interpretation become a big joke for Chinese Simplified version if you are familiar with the Americans Book/Robert Frank. <BR/><BR/>Chinese Simplified versopm is translating as per the English version. But the interpretation <BR/>is happen a serious translate mistake for this book.<BR/><BR/>Just want to sell book, but forget to take care the interpretation. <BR/><BR/>Chinese words are existing the Simplified (Mainland China) and Traditional Chinese (Taiwan).<BR/><BR/>Wish to Steidl Publishing / Robert Frank to re-considerring<BR/>the translations when they issued Traditional Chinese version if they want to sell more books.<BR/><BR/>The interpretation is an important thing, it need to let<BR/>everbody / readers to understand<BR/>the books, background, culture, <BR/>spatiotemporal, history, the mind of photographer, .....Simplified version is no note these issues.<BR/><BR/>I am afrid of the big joke again when Robert Frank / Steidl Publishing to issue Chinese Traditional version. : )Traditional Chinesenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666226609376223220.post-13683254900706145682008-07-02T05:21:00.000-04:002008-07-02T05:21:00.000-04:00Dear Jan V,Sure, I agree with you - although econo...Dear Jan V,<BR/>Sure, I agree with you - although economies of scale are now forcing publishers to minimise alternative editions. <BR/>The funny bit here though is that Rober Delpire ed. owns the rights to the 'real' original edition - as Frank's book was first published in France. It is now the same publisher that is blocking the French translation of the Steidl version...NGVhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10874004148882870705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666226609376223220.post-65546926002355013412008-07-02T05:06:00.000-04:002008-07-02T05:06:00.000-04:00Dear ngvDifferent covers - and even different intr...Dear ngv<BR/><BR/>Different covers - and even different introductions - are very common practice when the publication rights for different countries are held by different publishers. <BR/><BR/>To give one other example: at my local bookstore Josef Koudelka's latest book 'Invasion 68: Prague' is available in 3 versions: English, French and Dutch. And all have different covers. I'm not sure why this is done.Jan Vnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666226609376223220.post-71119459468172209372008-07-01T08:21:00.000-04:002008-07-01T08:21:00.000-04:00Sorry for the confusion. Here's the full story: in...Sorry for the confusion. Here's the full story: in 1985, Delpire republished Les Américains but this time with a French translation of the Kerouac intro and with a picture replacing the Steinberg drawing.<BR/>So, today, the French can see two versions of the same book in French stores: Les Américains (by Robert Delpire ed.) - in French - and The Americans (by Steidl) - in English. <BR/>The two are more similar than ever but with the Steidl version being the 'real' re-issue and the other one being a basic reprint of the 1985 French version...<BR/>Has this post helped?NGVhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10874004148882870705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666226609376223220.post-86777837354279353362008-07-01T07:16:00.000-04:002008-07-01T07:16:00.000-04:00Dear ngv,I am confused by your note. As the 1958 e...Dear ngv,<BR/>I am confused by your note. As the 1958 edition was in French, are you saying that "Delpire is now republishing a translation" into English? And will this version have the Steinberg cover and the Bosquet texts?Stuart Alexandernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666226609376223220.post-12694295587399595022008-07-01T03:48:00.000-04:002008-07-01T03:48:00.000-04:00Hi,Just a quick note to pass on a remark on the Fr...Hi,<BR/>Just a quick note to pass on a remark on the French edition of The Americans. For the French market, it is Robert Delpire Editeur which owns the copyright of the book from the very first 1958 publication - as it was first published in France, although with a different cover (by Saul Steinberg, which Robert Frank disliked) and an alternative text to Jack Kerouac's 'You've got eyes' introduction: instead, there are poems by Alain Bosquet. Currently in France, Robert Delpire is now republishing a translation of this version and... blocking the Steidl one!NGVhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10874004148882870705noreply@blogger.com