COMMENT: Beeb taking a battering

A remarkable chain of events over the last few days has seen the corporation engulfed in self-examination on a massive scale.

The editor of Newsnight has stepped aside, last night saw one BBC current affairs programme investigating another as Panorama probed Newsnight’s notorious decision not to broadcast an investigation into Savile’s depraved behaviour.

So was the Newsnight investigation flawed due to a lack of strong evidence or was it pulled from our screens as part of a cover-up designed to protect the reputations of Savile and the Beeb?

Hopefully the independent inquiries being set up will give us the answers to these questions.

In the meantime, the navel-gazing at the BBC seems to be an epidemic. The director general is doorstepped on his way to work, the corporation’s news channels are full of BBC journalists interviewing BBC journalists, and all the while the Beeb’s reputation continues to take a battering.

If it can be proved that BBC bosses knew of Savile’s behaviour or connived to ensure the full story was not told by its own journalists then there will be real questions asked about the future of Britan’s national broadcaster.

The BBC remains a great institution that employs some of Britain’s brightest and best.

But it gets closer to meltdown with every new revelation about this scandal.

Comments

Mervyn James
11:36am Tue 23 Oct 12

It must be about recompense now, as the 'alleged' perpetrator (We have to say alleged until some truth/proof emerges), cannot be brought to trial. It's no use constant speculation. Once these things start it gathers its own momentum,let us hope innocent people are not dragged down in the process. No-one in TV will want to work with children any more the risk being too great of accusation and rumour. It is why in fact many males do not teach and the women do most of it.

It must be about recompense now, as the 'alleged' perpetrator (We have to say alleged until some truth/proof emerges), cannot be brought to trial. It's no use constant speculation. Once these things start it gathers its own momentum,let us hope innocent people are not dragged down in the process. No-one in TV will want to work with children any more the risk being too great of accusation and rumour. It is why in fact many males do not teach and the women do most of it.Mervyn James

It must be about recompense now, as the 'alleged' perpetrator (We have to say alleged until some truth/proof emerges), cannot be brought to trial. It's no use constant speculation. Once these things start it gathers its own momentum,let us hope innocent people are not dragged down in the process. No-one in TV will want to work with children any more the risk being too great of accusation and rumour. It is why in fact many males do not teach and the women do most of it.

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james jackson
12:14pm Tue 23 Oct 12

It's a sad refection on the times we live in, that men are put off teaching, or any jobs where children are involved, because of the current hysteria about paedophilia.
The BBC, on the other hand is far too busy protecting its own position and the position of its rich hierarchy. It also does what the government wants. It is no longer the "nation shall speak unto nation" broadcaster it once was and in my view is not at all impartial.
Anyone who remembers its nasty ban on broadcasting the appeal for Gaza in 2009, cannot be surprised at all, that this same broadcaster, funded by the taxpayer, should now seek to protect its reputation as the sleaze increases by the day.
Perhaps there are people who still believe in the integrity of the BBC but the scales fell from my eyes, many years ago. It's just that as British people we can't bear the thought that "Auntie" should be called into question.

It's a sad refection on the times we live in, that men are put off teaching, or any jobs where children are involved, because of the current hysteria about paedophilia.
The BBC, on the other hand is far too busy protecting its own position and the position of its rich hierarchy. It also does what the government wants. It is no longer the "nation shall speak unto nation" broadcaster it once was and in my view is not at all impartial.
Anyone who remembers its nasty ban on broadcasting the appeal for Gaza in 2009, cannot be surprised at all, that this same broadcaster, funded by the taxpayer, should now seek to protect its reputation as the sleaze increases by the day.
Perhaps there are people who still believe in the integrity of the BBC but the scales fell from my eyes, many years ago. It's just that as British people we can't bear the thought that "Auntie" should be called into question.james jackson

It's a sad refection on the times we live in, that men are put off teaching, or any jobs where children are involved, because of the current hysteria about paedophilia.
The BBC, on the other hand is far too busy protecting its own position and the position of its rich hierarchy. It also does what the government wants. It is no longer the "nation shall speak unto nation" broadcaster it once was and in my view is not at all impartial.
Anyone who remembers its nasty ban on broadcasting the appeal for Gaza in 2009, cannot be surprised at all, that this same broadcaster, funded by the taxpayer, should now seek to protect its reputation as the sleaze increases by the day.
Perhaps there are people who still believe in the integrity of the BBC but the scales fell from my eyes, many years ago. It's just that as British people we can't bear the thought that "Auntie" should be called into question.

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gadget
1:08pm Tue 23 Oct 12

The BBC is a disgrace , The public have no option but to pay the government sponsered tax guzzling machine that continually spouts out its leftist liberal agender , trying to condition its viewers to liberal views . Well it aint working with me .They protected saville because of his massive viewing appeal that brought the numbers in , It didnt matter that he took their childhood away , SHAME ON THE BBC .

The BBC is a disgrace , The public have no option but to pay the government sponsered tax guzzling machine that continually spouts out its leftist liberal agender , trying to condition its viewers to liberal views . Well it aint working with me .They protected saville because of his massive viewing appeal that brought the numbers in , It didnt matter that he took their childhood away , SHAME ON THE BBC .gadget

The BBC is a disgrace , The public have no option but to pay the government sponsered tax guzzling machine that continually spouts out its leftist liberal agender , trying to condition its viewers to liberal views . Well it aint working with me .They protected saville because of his massive viewing appeal that brought the numbers in , It didnt matter that he took their childhood away , SHAME ON THE BBC .

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Limestonecowboy
7:55pm Tue 23 Oct 12

Mervyn James wrote…

It must be about recompense now, as the 'alleged' perpetrator (We have to say alleged until some truth/proof emerges), cannot be brought to trial. It's no use constant speculation. Once these things start it gathers its own momentum,let us hope innocent people are not dragged down in the process. No-one in TV will want to work with children any more the risk being too great of accusation and rumour. It is why in fact many males do not teach and the women do most of it.

Are you basing the reason numbers of males in teaching on scientific fact? I am sure there have been equal accusations made on both sexes.

Don't forget the Plymouth nursery sexual abuse case in 2009 two out of three culprits were women.

[quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote:
It must be about recompense now, as the 'alleged' perpetrator (We have to say alleged until some truth/proof emerges), cannot be brought to trial. It's no use constant speculation. Once these things start it gathers its own momentum,let us hope innocent people are not dragged down in the process. No-one in TV will want to work with children any more the risk being too great of accusation and rumour. It is why in fact many males do not teach and the women do most of it.[/p][/quote]Are you basing the reason numbers of males in teaching on scientific fact? I am sure there have been equal accusations made on both sexes.
Don't forget the Plymouth nursery sexual abuse case in 2009 two out of three culprits were women.Limestonecowboy

Mervyn James wrote…

It must be about recompense now, as the 'alleged' perpetrator (We have to say alleged until some truth/proof emerges), cannot be brought to trial. It's no use constant speculation. Once these things start it gathers its own momentum,let us hope innocent people are not dragged down in the process. No-one in TV will want to work with children any more the risk being too great of accusation and rumour. It is why in fact many males do not teach and the women do most of it.

Are you basing the reason numbers of males in teaching on scientific fact? I am sure there have been equal accusations made on both sexes.

Don't forget the Plymouth nursery sexual abuse case in 2009 two out of three culprits were women.

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Katie Re-Registered
12:56pm Wed 24 Oct 12

I notice that one question which was pushed out of the limelight with much nervous rapidity by the media is whether or not there was/is an elite paedophile ring at the BBC? A few day's ago there was mention of a fourth un-named celebrity in addition to Savile, Glitter and (allegedly) Starr being involved. Oh well, I guess this was either just a rumour or the fourth celebrity now resides in the same place as the two members of Blair's cabinet whom the media briefly mentioned were on the Operation Ore list for downloading child ****.

Personally, I don't feel the Beeb is a very progressive organisation. This also reveals the way in which the Beeb holds women in contempt - particularly those from already marginalised groups. We only have to look at complete lack of gender diversity amongst its presenters and programmes to glean that it is institutionally heterosexist and gendernormative. This is significant because those from its top brass seem to be trying to excuse themselves by claiming that the 'culture' was different in the 1970s and '80s. However, I just don't buy that as this abuse and harassment was going on long after that. Btw...since when did *culture* consist of the art of some wealthy, influential bloke sticking his hand up a far less powerful person's skirt?

How much longer can they suppress the truth? It seems very suspicious to me that the one person who gets exposed for these crimes happens to be the dead one - if there is a ring involved, particularly if they are senior members of the establishment, then how convenient for them.

I notice that one question which was pushed out of the limelight with much nervous rapidity by the media is whether or not there was/is an elite paedophile ring at the BBC? A few day's ago there was mention of a fourth un-named celebrity in addition to Savile, Glitter and (allegedly) Starr being involved. Oh well, I guess this was either just a rumour or the fourth celebrity now resides in the same place as the two members of Blair's cabinet whom the media briefly mentioned were on the Operation Ore list for downloading child ****.
Personally, I don't feel the Beeb is a very progressive organisation. This also reveals the way in which the Beeb holds women in contempt - particularly those from already marginalised groups. We only have to look at complete lack of gender diversity amongst its presenters and programmes to glean that it is institutionally heterosexist and gendernormative. This is significant because those from its top brass seem to be trying to excuse themselves by claiming that the 'culture' was different in the 1970s and '80s. However, I just don't buy that as this abuse and harassment was going on long after that. Btw...since when did *culture* consist of the art of some wealthy, influential bloke sticking his hand up a far less powerful person's skirt?
How much longer can they suppress the truth? It seems very suspicious to me that the one person who gets exposed for these crimes happens to be the dead one - if there is a ring involved, particularly if they are senior members of the establishment, then how convenient for them.Katie Re-Registered

I notice that one question which was pushed out of the limelight with much nervous rapidity by the media is whether or not there was/is an elite paedophile ring at the BBC? A few day's ago there was mention of a fourth un-named celebrity in addition to Savile, Glitter and (allegedly) Starr being involved. Oh well, I guess this was either just a rumour or the fourth celebrity now resides in the same place as the two members of Blair's cabinet whom the media briefly mentioned were on the Operation Ore list for downloading child ****.

Personally, I don't feel the Beeb is a very progressive organisation. This also reveals the way in which the Beeb holds women in contempt - particularly those from already marginalised groups. We only have to look at complete lack of gender diversity amongst its presenters and programmes to glean that it is institutionally heterosexist and gendernormative. This is significant because those from its top brass seem to be trying to excuse themselves by claiming that the 'culture' was different in the 1970s and '80s. However, I just don't buy that as this abuse and harassment was going on long after that. Btw...since when did *culture* consist of the art of some wealthy, influential bloke sticking his hand up a far less powerful person's skirt?

How much longer can they suppress the truth? It seems very suspicious to me that the one person who gets exposed for these crimes happens to be the dead one - if there is a ring involved, particularly if they are senior members of the establishment, then how convenient for them.

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gadget
1:04pm Wed 24 Oct 12

Well you started off well Katie until that feminist claptrap surfaced , Perhaps you should apply for a job at the beeb , Im sure you would fit straight in .

Well you started off well Katie until that feminist claptrap surfaced , Perhaps you should apply for a job at the beeb , Im sure you would fit straight in .gadget

Well you started off well Katie until that feminist claptrap surfaced , Perhaps you should apply for a job at the beeb , Im sure you would fit straight in .

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Limestonecowboy
6:28pm Wed 24 Oct 12

Katie Re-Registered wrote…

I notice that one question which was pushed out of the limelight with much nervous rapidity by the media is whether or not there was/is an elite paedophile ring at the BBC? A few day's ago there was mention of a fourth un-named celebrity in addition to Savile, Glitter and (allegedly) Starr being involved. Oh well, I guess this was either just a rumour or the fourth celebrity now resides in the same place as the two members of Blair's cabinet whom the media briefly mentioned were on the Operation Ore list for downloading child ****. Personally, I don't feel the Beeb is a very progressive organisation. This also reveals the way in which the Beeb holds women in contempt - particularly those from already marginalised groups. We only have to look at complete lack of gender diversity amongst its presenters and programmes to glean that it is institutionally heterosexist and gendernormative. This is significant because those from its top brass seem to be trying to excuse themselves by claiming that the 'culture' was different in the 1970s and '80s. However, I just don't buy that as this abuse and harassment was going on long after that. Btw...since when did *culture* consist of the art of some wealthy, influential bloke sticking his hand up a far less powerful person's skirt? How much longer can they suppress the truth? It seems very suspicious to me that the one person who gets exposed for these crimes happens to be the dead one - if there is a ring involved, particularly if they are senior members of the establishment, then how convenient for them.

[quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote:
I notice that one question which was pushed out of the limelight with much nervous rapidity by the media is whether or not there was/is an elite paedophile ring at the BBC? A few day's ago there was mention of a fourth un-named celebrity in addition to Savile, Glitter and (allegedly) Starr being involved. Oh well, I guess this was either just a rumour or the fourth celebrity now resides in the same place as the two members of Blair's cabinet whom the media briefly mentioned were on the Operation Ore list for downloading child ****. Personally, I don't feel the Beeb is a very progressive organisation. This also reveals the way in which the Beeb holds women in contempt - particularly those from already marginalised groups. We only have to look at complete lack of gender diversity amongst its presenters and programmes to glean that it is institutionally heterosexist and gendernormative. This is significant because those from its top brass seem to be trying to excuse themselves by claiming that the 'culture' was different in the 1970s and '80s. However, I just don't buy that as this abuse and harassment was going on long after that. Btw...since when did *culture* consist of the art of some wealthy, influential bloke sticking his hand up a far less powerful person's skirt? How much longer can they suppress the truth? It seems very suspicious to me that the one person who gets exposed for these crimes happens to be the dead one - if there is a ring involved, particularly if they are senior members of the establishment, then how convenient for them.[/p][/quote]Your talking about Liz Kershaw (Newsnight Tues.) ranting about sexism at the BBC - makes no sense & totally confusing.Limestonecowboy

Katie Re-Registered wrote…

I notice that one question which was pushed out of the limelight with much nervous rapidity by the media is whether or not there was/is an elite paedophile ring at the BBC? A few day's ago there was mention of a fourth un-named celebrity in addition to Savile, Glitter and (allegedly) Starr being involved. Oh well, I guess this was either just a rumour or the fourth celebrity now resides in the same place as the two members of Blair's cabinet whom the media briefly mentioned were on the Operation Ore list for downloading child ****. Personally, I don't feel the Beeb is a very progressive organisation. This also reveals the way in which the Beeb holds women in contempt - particularly those from already marginalised groups. We only have to look at complete lack of gender diversity amongst its presenters and programmes to glean that it is institutionally heterosexist and gendernormative. This is significant because those from its top brass seem to be trying to excuse themselves by claiming that the 'culture' was different in the 1970s and '80s. However, I just don't buy that as this abuse and harassment was going on long after that. Btw...since when did *culture* consist of the art of some wealthy, influential bloke sticking his hand up a far less powerful person's skirt? How much longer can they suppress the truth? It seems very suspicious to me that the one person who gets exposed for these crimes happens to be the dead one - if there is a ring involved, particularly if they are senior members of the establishment, then how convenient for them.

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