I guess many people would say that Scorpio is the badass of the zodiac, but I would also rank Capricorn, Saggitarius and Aries as of similar toughness with Cap being perhaps the strongest.

The weakest or softest being perhaps pisces and cancer. Perhaps Libra and aquarius couldn't be considered very tough either.

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I think that Scorpio and Capricorn placements are very good at "toughness", in that they are good at overcoming adversity. Mars in Capricorn, in particular, I've found has tremendous staying power.

Sagittarius placements can sometimes have a tendency to run away from their lessons, rather than stay, face, and transform them. They can also have a tendency to overlook what the problem really is.

I agree that Pisces and Cancer probably are the "softest", since they are water signs that focus on the emotions, and can be easily hurt. Scorpio can, too, but they have more transformative, overcoming power to deal with it. In my own personal experience, Cancer placements, especially Venus in Cancer, can by very, very easily hurt. Mars in Cancer, too - but these tend to lash out more in response, esp. the males.

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Who would you least want a confrontation or argument with?. I personally find that aries would be the most difficult as they can be quite harsh and lack understanding.

Personally, I find people with strong Leo placements the most difficult to deal with in an argument or conversation. They can come on way too stong, and be focused on their own point of view waaaaay too much. Actually, all fire sign placements can lean towards this tendency, but I find Leo placements the hardest to deal with. (Of course, I'm not speaking of all people I know with Leo placements... some handle it very well....)

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Which sign gets bullied the most ?

Hmmm... Pisces seems the most logical. Libra could tend to have this tendency, as well. Probably those with weak Mercury and Mars placements would have a harder time standing up for themselves.

I think that Scorpio is the toughest sign because I have the same sign. At this time I have to face many difficulties in my study. I have already faced many challenges up to now. So, I vote the Scorpio as the toughest sign.

I guess many people would say that Scorpio is the badass of the zodiac, but I would also rank Capricorn, Saggitarius and Aries as of similar toughness with Cap being perhaps the strongest.

The weakest or softest being perhaps pisces and cancer. Perhaps Libra and aquarius couldn't be considered very tough either.

I have found water signs to be the softest ... easily hurt I mean ! And Cancer is the softest but if you hurt a Cancer you would never know, they have a tough shell ! Toughest, in my experience is the Earth signs ... Taurus, Capricorn, Virgo !

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I don't think the opinions of aquarius or gemini are really very deep or meaningful so they are usually easy to defeat in an argument.

Capricorn are more at home with toughness and durability than taurus as taurus are more prone to comfort and peace seeking to last it out in a confrontation.

The fire signs are probabaly the best for an argumentative situation, I would say aries is alot more insightful and penetrative while Libra plays a wait and see non confrontational type game. Libra wouldn't last a second against aries.

I don't think the opinions of aquarius or gemini are really very deep or meaningful so they are usually easy to defeat in an argument.

I do not think that opinions of Aquarius or Gemini are not really very deep or meaningful. What are they? all a bunch of flakes? No, I don't think so.

What I think the problem is is this:

Aquarius has a tendency to want to "close their ears", can have a rebellious, know-it-all tendency. Aquarius is, after all, a fixed air sign. Their opinions may be entirely valid, or they may not be, but they will not really "hear" what the other is saying to find out. A fixed air sign's purpose is to teach one to hold on to their personal revelations. However that can backfire if they carry it too far, and are not open to others points of view.

Gemini, on the other hand, has the built-in tendency to see both sides. Gemini make great counselors for this reason. But because they see both sides of the argument, they can change their own mind too quickly, especially if they were taught as children that their own opinions were not valid. Then when someone challenges them, they quickly drop their own opinion and adopt the others.

Tough like what, weak like what? Life is too complex as to generalize those adjectives. Don't you think?

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A tough/weak Gemini

Tough liked someone who is not easily ruffled in a confrontation, or someone who can take alot of punishment and has good staying power for activities like sport or a physically and mentally demanding job, or someone not to be messed with

Weak as in very sensitive and easily hurt, someone who finds it hard to be assertive and stand up for themselves, someone who can be a walk over or easily moved by a sob story etc. Someone who is easily taken advantage off, someone who could lack courage ( not all the time), this is generally speaking.

If we didn't generalize adjectives nobody would ever have a conversation and we would just be robots

Hehe.... yeah, there's nothing like a bored Gemini to disrupt a perfectly good conversation..... I have Jupiter Rx in Gemini in the 6th, ruling my 3rd, and I will definitely find myself "checking out" if the topic gets too boring or stuck on one subject.

My Saturn is in Mars dwelling (Aries), but my Moon is also strong in Taurus.

The only problem I have with that theory is that I think most people can be tough and weak...

You are exactly right, Haizea. That is why I prefer to say "placements" instead of Sun signs. To label someone as strong or weak because of their Sun sign is to say that that can be determined only by the Sun sign. When in fact, the rest of the chart needs to be taken into account. Every chart has strong placements and also weak placements. Nobody's perfect.

Anyway, in response to your "simple" question. I don't know if the Sun is a great indicator for toughness. In terms of physical strength and endurance I think you should look to Mars, the sign it's placed in to find out what kind of fighter/lover the person is, then look at the aspects it makes to see how the energy is expressed. Check out the ascendant for body type as well.

For example, my Mars is in Capricorn so in a fight, I would plan my moves ahead of time and probably assume a defensive posture. I wouldn't rush in throwing wild hay-makers like a Mars in Aries would.
With Taurus as my ascendant, I'm not that assertive or fast but I'm well built, blessed with good stamina and a strong upper body. You probably won't outlast me in a fight, so you'd have to overpower me from the start or else I would win

I never said sun sign, keep up.

Well, I have Mars in Scorpio with a taurus ascendant also.

btw, I know the templeton is not a word dingleberry, whatever that is. Odd random thing to say. I think Simpleton suites you better.

i think scorpios are the scariest and very intense but capricorns are the most threatening. i have a murderer/gang member/drug dealer/abuser in my family whose birth time i do not know but he has his sun,moon, and mars in cap. he also has mars square pluto and mars trine saturn too..i love him, we grew up together. funny how he is the only person i've ever done a basic synastry on where we only have trines,sextiles and conjunctions. story of my life.

Pisces tend to have a lot of self doubt so critical comments made in arguments can eat away at them and make them believe that whatever was said is true.

I think that people who have a lot of scorpio and leo in them tend to be quite intimidating opponents because of the leo pride and the scorpio cunningness. They both tend to be strong domineering signs even if a bit vulnerable underneath their confident exterior.

I have found that all signs will get their own ways when they need to. Some just use different tactics.
Our Mars sign would probably indicate how we "get what we want" I recall a book by Howard Sapportas & Liz Greene where they discussed a test at a conference on this very subject.
I think the book may have been called the inner planets.
Libra is an interesting one which this book does cite in that Libra will say well I agree with what your proposing entirely but there is just one tiny little thing I would like to change. They then proceed to find more tiny little changes till the whole idea of the other person has completely changes to the Librans idea
Donít forget that Libra opposes Aries and polarity is always where with a sign especially for Libra who naturally rules the seventh house.

I nominate Pisces for weakest sign. I know and love many Pisceans, but they are just so fun to pick on. I guess that could be contributed to the fact that they are extremely passive and you know they won't go off and punch you in the face. They are sneaky though and will not hesitate to go behind your back and stab you in it. Slander is another one of their fave things to do. I nominate Taurus for toughest sign. We have the ability to take so much **** from people, but when we reach our boiling point we WILL punch you in the face, but only after enduring many things. Capricorns are pretty tough characters too.