So what do you think? We must make immigration a non-issue in the next election because Democrates ALWAYS use it as a wedge issue and they ALWAYS get away with it. Is this the best way to take that power away from them...?

How is giving voting to rights to millions of invaders hell bent on remaking our country into their own third world cesspool "taking away the issue"? They will vote 75% or better for the very people Hannity (who is dumb as a box of rocks) thinks this will neutralize.

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posted on 11/10/2012 4:32:46 AM PST
by raybbr
(People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)

I think we need to propose a border fence, penalties for employers, deportation for any crime etc. But label it "immigration reform" and precede the legal section of the bill with all sorts of flowery language about how important legal immigrants are to America etc.

We need to play the ground game and the media game and all the other games. Sitting it out is not an option because Obama will simply go around Congress using executive orders.

NO!!! We just have to pick a candidate who has a core. We do not need another flip flopper. That was Romney Number ONE reason he did not win. Who could trust what he says? Most Romney voters even wondered that. I know when I was in the voter booth voting for him, I thought well hopefully he will do what he says, but there was that doubt that he might not.

And Hannity’s buds Rush and Levin cited an empirical study that shows the RINO assumption are all wrong about Latinos wanting amnesty for illegal immigration, but instead are here for the free stuff from government who spread the wealth around.

Hannity is an idiot if he thinks granting 10-20million new democrat voters, actual citizenship to legally vote for democrats will solve the problems of the Republican party. Both Juan McCain and to a lesser extent Romney spoke about granting some sort of “comprehensive reform” and they lost to a man that didn’t really say anything different.

It’s about outreach and Romney’s campaign didn’t offer any different outreach to the Hispanics. They were too busy trying to convince conservatives that he was conservative enough.

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posted on 11/10/2012 4:41:46 AM PST
by newnhdad
(Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)

Hannity has taken the first step down the slippery slope. Ask Michael Smerconish how that went. Smerk used to be a Conservative voice, came back from a vacation spouting anti-war agenda. Now he’s an MSNBC trained chimp.

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posted on 11/10/2012 4:59:26 AM PST
by NTHockey
(Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)

all i know is, when individuals, or political parties or countries make improper compromises out of fear, very often, the very thing they fear happens to them !

in this case it is so obvious: the Republicans are fearful about about the political consequences of properly enforcing immigration laws, because they think that the backlash from latino voters will make the demographics impossible to wine.

So they cave in and agree to “immigration reform” and the democrats import a permanent majority of illegal immigrants from the third world.

and the Republicans end up with the very situation they feared, and worse...

The conservatives here in Canada faced a similar issue, and in some ways the demographics are worse, but they hung tough and reduced immigration numbers and tightened up the qualifications, and instead of being punished they have made major inroads into the immigrant communities in the big cities (especially toronto)

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posted on 11/10/2012 4:59:54 AM PST
by Reverend Wright
(Obama explains the ALCS: the Yankees actually played great but lost due to mistakes by Joe Torre)

Assuming there are 30 million illegals in America, that's enough to create some 50 congressional districts and they don't even need to vote to do it. If they do vote, you can pretty much count on those districts being almost exclusively democrat. As it is we don't know how many districts exist almost wholly due to the presence of illegals.

The costs of administering a single district must run into the millions. How much pork can a district seek? How many earmarks? What will all those new democrat congressmen vote for?

If you think Obamacare is bad, you haven't seen squat. Wait till the day all those democrats start dictating how many cars a family can have, what job you can have, or where you can live. Wait till they dictate that all paychecks come from government and you get a small cut of what is left over.

Illegals are nothing but government growth hormone and amnesty today is nothing short of treason.

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posted on 11/10/2012 5:00:11 AM PST
by cripplecreek
(REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)

Was listening to Mark Levin the other night. He made a lot of sense regarding the illegal immigration issue. The answer is not running a Marco Rubio or a Herman Cain or a female of any persuasion which is simply pandering to Balkanizing strategies and gender and race warfare amongst the electorate. The answer lies in deconstructing the stranglehold the left has had on our educational institutions for so many years. Start with the children and educate them to John Locke and Friedrich von Hayek and Milton Friedman and Ayn Rand at an early age, teach them how finance works, how the free market operates, teach them the history of the U.S. not the revisionist version, stop the left wing propagandizing that begins in kindergarten and extends into graduate school. Teach in Spanish if you have to. Publish Mark Levin’s book “Liberty and Tyranny “ in Spanish, print fifty million copies and distribute them to all illegals. This was Mark’s suggestion. No it’s not just self interest. Let them read about our great principles and how capitalism and freedom work hand in hand to provide more for the individual than any handout any democrat can possibly give them. End the racial and class warfare paradigm. That is the only way Latinos can or will cross over and vote conservative. It will be a long process but there are no short cuts. Right now the illegals are completely off the reservation as stooges for the Democrats. They are ignorant and the Democrats are subverting them every step of the way. Education is key and the Democrats know it and have known it for years. That is why they have succeeded in installing someone like Obama for two terms.

I have said for years that it students took a year between high school and college and worked at a dead end job, many of the liberal - leftist ideas peddled at college wouldn’t take hold as easily as they fo.

So parents paying for school should say character building is part of your education, defer admission and do this or I won’t pay for school.

No, immigration reform is a non-starter for Republicans, who do not have the power to make changes; and the Democrats will permit no changes in which the Republicans might benefit.

Therefore it is a distraction from the very few things the Republicans can still forcefully do. In a nutshell, three things:

1) Refuse to vote for any more continuing resolutions. If Harry Reid wants money, he must actually allow the senate to conduct budget hearings and pass a budget. At first, the Democrats and the MSM will come down on the Republicans like a ton of bricks over this, but two years is a very long time. If the Republicans hold firm, they will force Reid and Obama to do their job, at least nominally.

2) Refuse to cancel sequestration. Mandatory cuts of such scale will traumatize the bureaucracy. The public will be horrified at a 1/3rd reduction in the defense budget. Again, at first, the Democrats and the MSM will lash out at the Republicans, but if the Republicans hold firm, it will really hit the Democrats with both barrels from their big money supporters, demanding they compromise.

3) Refuse to increase the debt cap. Tell Obama and Reid that if they want the debt cap raised, they must do so with immediate spending cuts first, and maybe higher taxes later, not vice versa.

These three things together will be far more than the Democrats can take, and though the Republicans will get huge pressure at first, they can just go into defensive mode. The Democrats are the ones who will eventually be devastated unless they bend.

I think we must always stand for the rule of law or we are no better than a third world country. I know that our border is immense, but there must be a better way police it. Any other country in the world does not let just any and every one cross the border into their country without proper documentation. One silver lining may be that the attraction the US has for the "freeloaders" will decrease as the economy continues to worsen under Obama's incompetent leadership - if you can call it that!

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posted on 11/10/2012 5:23:55 AM PST
by srmorton
(Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")

Sean Hannity knowingly recruited and employed many illegal aliens while he was in the construction business.

Several years ago he used to brag about on his radio show -

When things got hot Hannity went to the SW borders to use the Minutemen to boost his ratings.

All this crap about illegal aliens paying taxes only means sales taxes - never federal, state, or local income taxes.

Illegal aliens have organizations, churches, attorneys, and printed literature distributed in the USA and South of the Border on how to secretly work (both husband & wife) under the table but still get:

Just yesterday, illegals had a protest in Michigan over the fact that our secretary of state refused to give them driver’s licenses.

One of their main complaints was about the fact that not having a license singled them out and made them afraid to vote because an ID is requested and if they don’t have one they have to sign an affidavit that they do. (Self incrimination)

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posted on 11/10/2012 5:36:41 AM PST
by cripplecreek
(REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)

Yes. We must insist on real border control methods (e-identification, no automatic birthright, guest worker program, overhaul social security cards, etc etc) and then we bite the bullert and grant amnesty to get the issue off teh table. The law must absolutely stop the bleeding through the pourous border though. If it does not, it won’t be reform. It will be surrender and that we will not do.

Conservative Fox News and radio host Sean Hannity said Thursday that his views on immigration have "evolved."

Fox News is a neo-conservative mouthpiece for a Republican agenda that has supported open borders for years. Hannity's views on immigration haven't evolved at all ... he's simply parroting his employer's agenda.

I say this as someone who used to work in the same building in New York City where Hannity started his career in talk radio. I've shared many an elevator ride with him, and I've done a bit of research on his background from Long Island before he became a media personality. He's a nice guy, but trust me when I tell you that Sean Hannity doesn't do his radio or television shows on his way home from Mensa meetings.

Veruca Salt:
Gooses! Geeses!
I want my geese to lay gold eggs for Easter
Mr. Salt:
It will, sweetheart
Veruca:
At least a hundred a day
Mr.Salt:
Anything you say
Veruca:
And by the way
Mr. Salt:
What?
Veruca:
I want a feast.
Mr. Salt:
You ate before you came to the factory
Veruca:
I want a bean feast!
Mr. Salt:
Oh, one of those
Veruca:
Cream buns and doughnuts and fruitcake with no nuts
So good you could go nuts
Mr. Salt:
You can have all those things when you get home
Veruca:
No, now!!
I want a ball
I want a party
Pink macaroons and a million balloons
And performing baboons and ...
Give it to me
Rrhh rhhh
Now!
I want the world
I want the whole world
I want to lock it all up in my pocket
It’s my bar of chocolate
Give it to me
Now!
I want today
I want tomorrow
I want to wear ‘em like braids in my hair
And I don’t want to share ‘em
I want a party with room fulls of laughter
Ten thousand tons of ice cream
And if I don’t get the things I am after
I’m going to scream!
I want the works
I want the whole works
Presents and prizes and sweets and surprises
Of all shapes and sizes
And now
Don’t care how
I want it now
Don’t care how
I want it now!!!!

Our Goose or Geeses are cooked. Morals were thrown out the window over 20 years ago. Today, Free Stuff trumps.

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posted on 11/10/2012 5:58:00 AM PST
by borntobeagle
(It's The End Of The World As We Know It And I Don't Feel Fine.)

Have been hearing a lot of “hispanic call in day” on the radio since after the election. Many hispanic activists on trying to explain what went wrong with the election and why they supported Democrats.

Everything they had to say boiled down to this: We basically share a lot of values with the Republicans. We would probably BE republican voters. What the Democrats do right is and why hispanics vote for them is because they make HISPANIC INTERESTS first and foremost, above other interests.

In other words, the Latino community wants to come here, illegally, and stay here. Yes, they want a good life and share our values ... but they want the LATINO community to receive amnesty and then continue to receive special treatment. They o NOT care about our laws or the Rule of LAw. That is secondary to the “Race.” They want it to be OK for them to come here, receive amnesty, and CONTINIE to receive various benefits and special consideration for their race, and their race only.

You can hear it, if you really listen in between the lines. The democrats DO this, better than anyone else ...they create balkanized special interest groups — Latinos, gays, blacks, women, etc ....it’s just one more in a long line of the splintering of the nation.

I say to them: SCREW you, Latino community!!! Get in the back of the line and ENFORCE THE LAWS ON THE BOOKS!! NO group should receive special treatment above all others ...every American gets the same chance and you can work it if you have the brains, guts, and ambition and come here legally — Not the American way, pals!

Tired of hearing this BS from the “Latino Community” — look, either you’re an American, or you just need to go the F home. I don’t care about you wanting a better life. You don’t have a right to it.

Have been hearing a lot of “hispanic call in day” on the radio since after the election. Many hispanic activists on trying to explain what went wrong with the election and why they supported Democrats.

Everything they had to say boiled down to this: We basically share a lot of values with the Republicans. We would probably BE republican voters. What the Democrats do right is and why hispanics vote for them is because they make HISPANIC INTERESTS first and foremost, above other interests.

In other words, the Latino community wants to come here, illegally, and stay here. Yes, they want a good life and share our values ... but they want the LATINO community to receive amnesty and then continue to receive special treatment. They o NOT care about our laws or the Rule of LAw. That is secondary to the “Race.” They want it to be OK for them to come here, receive amnesty, and CONTINIE to receive various benefits and special consideration for their race, and their race only.

You can hear it, if you really listen in between the lines. The democrats DO this, better than anyone else ...they create balkanized special interest groups — Latinos, gays, blacks, women, etc ....it’s just one more in a long line of the splintering of the nation.

I say to them: SCREW you, Latino community!!! Get in the back of the line and ENFORCE THE LAWS ON THE BOOKS!! NO group should receive special treatment above all others ...every American gets the same chance and you can work it if you have the brains, guts, and ambition and come here legally — Not the American way, pals!

Tired of hearing this BS from the “Latino Community” — look, either you’re an American, or you just need to go the F home. I don’t care about you wanting a better life. You don’t have a right to it.

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