...So there is ammo out there just takes a bit of patience to find it. Good Luck!

I stopped by my local Walmart yesterday morning and was surprised to find ten boxes of 100 round Winchester 9mm on the shelves. When asked the store clerk for assistance she said I could only get three boxes but at $24.47 per 100 rounds, I don't see any price gouging by Walmart and, it's there if you luck out.

__________________The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money.

Every "market" has a supply chain and a demand. Supply chains are governed by various forces; raw materials, subcontractors, transport, government regs., manufacturing limitations, etc. Demand is determined by various forces; economic environment, perceived scarcity, actual consumption, participation, prices, etc.

These are only partial lists, there are many other factor that go into determining a "market" and it's commoditys' value.

Right now virtually every force that can drive up the perceived value and prices in the ammunition and firearms "markets" is working in tandem in these markets. The perceived value and scarcity of these items is at an all time high, in our memories.

The perceived threat of unavailablility in the future is very high. Supply remains fairly constant. It is the demand side that is running this market. (I know conspiracy this & that, blah,blah, blah............puking sounds!) Ammunition and firearms manufacturers ARE CRANKING OUT AS MUCH AS THEY CAN REASONABLY BE EXPECTED TO PRODUCE!

[QUOTE=HockaLouis;1178381]Not to address you personally BadBob; more the person you represent. That kind of attitude is the blame-others, redistributionist, equality-of-outcome-not-opportunity, unprepared, man-child, "I deserve mines" attitude that degenerates into low-lifes thieving and worse (not to mention the Administration we have in place today).

"We're all in this together" but people who took or take care of themselves are greedy!? So what's yours is yours and what isn't yours shoulda been left behind for you at your convenience and pleasure while you were off doing different things and spending money on who-cares-what. Yet others are the selfish bastards to the like of you, "taking advantage," and you're already thinking about theft as you become more afraid and defensive. Hello, Dr. Freud!

YOU are why the foresighted are stocked, locked, and loaded. There was no way to know this was gonna happen? Do you not have ANY self respect or take any personal responsibility for ANYTHING or has your political party completely succesfully brainwashed you!? A reasonable adult, acting like one, could see this coming an election away! When things were good you did nothing, and it didn't matter, you had faith, hope, and change in your pocket but now that they're not so good rationing is great! Un-friggin'-believable.

IMO YOU are what the civil society is to fear the most in the end. You won't have any more food when the SHTF than you will a-trip-to-the-range's-ammo today, just enough to rob and kill those who owe you supper simply becasue they have and you have not. You don't just explain this above, you will JUSTIFY it in the end. The sociopath. You hope the rest of us are defenseless. I only hope you are stopped cold at the first place you attempt to impose your immoral will.
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Wow, thanks for not pointing that directly towards me. Whew... apparently you're the angry guy. Seriously, I hope you feel better, but I'm not even going to address all of that garbage. Thanks for putting words in my mouth and perceiving to know me and others for the selfish, ignorant trash that we really are.

I don't mean to seem personally demeaning, but you sound exactly like a liberal politican who twists the truth to suit yourself. Repeat it long enough and you'll begin to believe it.

You do not get to determine all the buyers' attitudes and whether or not they should panic or pay what they are, they do. You don't agree with them. You know better. Good. So now there's no reason to be annoyed except that there is this inconvenience of not getting everything you want, where you want, when you want it, at the price you want it for like before the November election and especially the most recent mass-shooting. I mean, who coulda possibly seen THOSE coming, right?

You know this too shall pass. Um, despite the election and any more shootings. Right? See, I've set you free. Go in peace...

PS: I don't agree with "profiteering" but the market is what it is. The Party of the Left is working on it but it is still a free country, sorta, after all. Some would consider themselves lucky to get what they are in dire straights for at any price and others might work a little harder than usual not to pay the premiums things are selling for with just the push of a button on the internet... Others will curse the heavens, damn the diligent, and post tirades about how unfair life is at accomodating them here. Pointlessly...

I have what I need no more no less and instead of paying .90 cents a round for .223 I just shoot less often. It sucks but I refuse to pay the prices of ammo these days

I refuse to pay over the top prices too. Just shooting less. A lot less.

I do think that those out there that are buying thousands of rounds at every opportunity are making things worse. Whether they pay over the odds or not by creating the false shortage prices will stay high. They will only come down when people walk away from high prices and stop hoarding every round they can find.

I refuse to pay over the top prices too. Just shooting less. A lot less.

I do think that those out there that are buying thousands of rounds at every opportunity are making things worse. Whether they pay over the odds or not by creating the false shortage prices will stay high. They will only come down when people walk away from high prices and stop hoarding every round they can find.

Exactly. As long as people are paying these prices, they're here to stay. Something is telling me its mostly gun n00bs that don't know the difference anyway.....