Roosevelt Roberts

Some of you may have heard the interview CIT did with Roosevelt Roberts. You can listen to it here: www.thepentacon.com...

Here's a transcript I put together of it

Aldo Marquis: Hello, Roosevelt?

Roosevelt Roberts: Yeah. Yeah.

Aldo: Hi. Than- thanks for taking my call. Um-

Roosevelt: Okay.

Aldo: -Yeah- yeah, just- uh, uh, we- b- had been listening to the uh. . . the uh recordings that. . . I guess Jennifer Brennan, which is the
daughter of one of the other police officers there. . . uh, what-

Roosevelt: Right.

Aldo: -he- what he had. . . uh, what. . . I guess she had done with you guys. . . Um. . . if I can really quick. . . just, uh- if you can just
tell me your story.

Aldo: Okay. Well you know what, let me- let me just ask you a couple of quick questions. There's- there- there is mainly a- a couple specific
things. When you- you had mentioned, uh. . . right as you hung up the phone. . . you- you ran outside- what which parking lot- which dock were you
at?

Roosevelt: I was in south parking, and I was at the east loading dock when I ran outside and saw the low-flying aircraft above the parking lot.

Aldo: Okay. . . Was it a- was it a- a jet or was it a- do you remember what kind of plane it was?

*01:02

Roosevelt: Uh, it looked like to me at that time, uh, uh, uh, large, uh, aircraft-liner.

Aldo: Like a-

Roosevelt: It wasn't a- it wasn't a jet; it was a commercial aircraft.

Aldo: Okay. Did it have propellers, or did it have jet engines?

Roosevelt: It looked like jet engines, at that time.

Aldo: Jet engines. Okay. Um, uh- so- uh- y- how close were you to running outside 'cause this seemed to be pretty qui-eh- at least from what your
account sounded like; it sounded like literally the explosion happened, and then you ran outside.

*01:33

Aldo: I mean do you remember how many seconds it was when you heard the explosion and then saw that plane?

Roosevelt: From the time the explosion hit, 'til. . . I ran outside and saw- it's a loading dock, and you can run right out to the. . . look-out,
and look off.

Aldo: Uh-hum.

Roosevelt: And then uh. . . you see the flickering lights. . . uh, and saw the area, and then. . . uh, real quick I realized that it was some sort of
attack, and there was going to be a counter-measure with it.

*02:02

Aldo: Right. So, how many seconds-

Roosevelt: Uh. . .

Aldo: -would you guess?

Roosevelt: Maybe, uh. . . ten seconds tops.

Aldo: Ten seconds tops?

Roosevelt: Ten seconds tops.

Aldo: So you- you heard the explosion and ten seconds later you were outside and you were able to see that plane?

Roosevelt: Correct. You could see that plane just as clear as day. Couldn't miss it.

Aldo: Wha- what color was it; do you remember?

Roosevelt: Uh, it was- to me at that time, it looked like it was silver in color.

*02:30

Aldo: Like silver in color; but you saw it over the south parking lot.

Roosevelt: Right; around the lane one area, and it was like banking just above the, uh, light poles like.

Aldo: Okay. And ho-

Roosevelt: Had to been no more than- had to been no more than fifty feet or less than a hundred feet.

Aldo: Wow. And s- ho- do you remember how many engines you saw on it?

Roosevelt: Uh, couldn't tell for the engines.

Aldo: And it was- was it moving fast?

*02:59

Roosevelt: Oh, it was moving extremely fast. It was like, uh. . . maybe you saw the aircraft maybe for like, uh-a quick five seconds.

Aldo: For a quick five seconds. But you definitely- and you saw it over the south parking lot. . . over lane one?

Roosevelt: If you were to come up 395. . . uh, north heading towards the Pentagon, and you got off in south parking. . . you were like right there,
'cause 395 went right into 27.

Aldo: So from where- from where it had headed away from the Pentagon, which direction was it heading?

Roosevelt: From the w- uh, can you repeat that one more time, please?

Aldo: Yeah, when it was heading away from the Pentagon, this- this second plane,-?

Roosevelt: Right.

Aldo: -wh- do you remember which-

Roosevelt: Right.

Aldo: -which direction it was heading?

*04:01

Roosevelt: It was, uh. . . it was heading, um. . . back across 27. . . and it looks like. . . it appeared to me- I was in the south, and that plane
was heading. . . like, um. . . southwest. . . coming out.

Aldo: -did it look like it went out over the river, and- and kind of turned around?

Roosevelt: Um, it looked like it went over on the mall entrance side and turned around; because you've got. . . the mall there, and then- where I
was, was south; and the plane,. . . from the direction it was sitting, was facing west; so it went. . . southwest away from the Pentagon.

Aldo: Sou- southwest away from the Pentagon, okay; so kind of doing a U-turn, in a way?

*05:01

Roosevelt: Right.

Aldo: Okay. Okay.

Roosevelt: 'Cause it banked out, and it was like U-turning and coming around and coming out. It looked like, uh. . . for those brief seconds it
looked like it- it- it, um. . . uh, how do I want to say this, uh. . . it missed the wrong target, and it was going, like. . . out of the way, like
back to the airport, or something like that.

Aldo: Oh, like- so it was headed towards the airport, it looked like.

*05:27

Roosevelt: Well, no, not heading towards the airport; it's almost like if a. . . if a pilot misses good he'll try to do a banking and come around,
because he missed the target: he missed the landing zone.

Aldo: Got it. Got it. And you're, you're- are you a hundred percent sure it was a jet: an actual jet plane?

Roosevelt: Commercial aircraft.

Aldo: Commercial aircraft. Okay. So there was another-

Roosevelt: Right.

Aldo: -so there was another commercial aircraft in the area as- as the, uh. . . the plane hit then, basically. Is that what you think?

Roosevelt: Yes, sir, that's not what I think: I saw it. It was two aircraft. That's for sure.

*06:00

Aldo: Okay.

Craig Ranke: Now where- where did it seem like it came from?

Roosevelt: It seemed like, uh- when I saw it, by the time I got to the dock, it was already in the parking lot at lane one. And it was so large, you
couldn't miss from seeing it.

Craig: Right, but from what-

Roosevelt: And that-

Craig: -direction did it seem like it came from?

Aldo: He said it came f-

Roosevelt: It seemed like. . . that it came from, um. . . it- hold on a second.

*06:25

Roosevelt: It seemed like it came from, um. . . southwest-lookin- the same way it came in, or appeared that it came in, it seemed like it was
southwe- (indistinguishable) came in. . . uh. . . almost like where that ne- that first plane had, um. . . flew into the, um, Pentagon right there.
It- it- di- it looked like it came from that direction.

Aldo: A- okay. So- an- an- but- would- now how long would- I mean would you be sure that it was about ten seconds that it would take you to run from
the phone to the outside, or would you think it was less than ten se- ten seconds?

Craig: Or a little bit more?

Roosevelt: It would've t- it would've taken about ten seconds, because after impact I stepped out the little, uh, booth that I was in. And the
distance between. . . that booth and the edge of that dock is about, maybe, I don't know like. . . seven steps away from there.

Aldo: Wow.

Roosevelt: So, they're extre- extremely close.

Aldo: Got it. Got it.

Craig: You were right there.

Aldo: You were right there. Okay.

*07:30

Aldo: Woul- um-

Roosevelt: Yeah.

Aldo: -would it- w- I'll let you get going there, um, would it be possible to get a- an email from you so we could s- even get, um, like you to draw
on a map exactly where you saw everything, where you were standing, 'cause. . . I'm trying to gage everything, and it's kind of hard without seeing
it on a overhead. Would that be possible?

Roosevelt: Oh, sh-. Yeah, that's not a problem, um. . .

Aldo: Oh-

Roosevelt: My email address:

Aldo: Yeah. Or- yeah, go ah-

Roosevelt: .mil

Aldo: .mil. Okay.

*07:59

Roosevelt: And now I've, uh, switched from, uh, being (inaudible) service to, uh, special- to a-uh special aid, and I work for the Anti-Terrorism
Force/Protection Directorate now.

Aldo: Okay. Alright, excellent. Wou- um, would- y- we definitely would love to- what- when's an- another good time to get in touch with you where
we could speak more at length with you?

Roosevelt: Um, I'm going to be back in the office. . . uh, no later than two o'clock.

Aldo: Okay. We'll, uh, we'll try to give you a buzz back later then, and- thi- I'm assuming this is your cell phone, or it transfers to your cell
phone?

*08:32

Roosevelt: Uh, yes, sir; it's my cell phone.

Aldo: Okay, great. Um, you'll definitely be hearing back from me a- and uh- I appreciate you taking the time to talk to us, Roosevelt.

Pentagon police officer Roosevelt Roberts Jr.'s account is the ultimate validation of a flyover at the Pentagon and is the critical first flyover
witness as officially documented in the Library of Congress with an interview from 11/30-2001 as well as independently confirmed by us this year as
cited by biscuit cough.

There is no possible other explanation for the "commercial airliner" with "jet engines" that he saw banking just over the light poles or "50
feet" immediately AFTER the explosion at the Pentagon.

Thanks for the additional focused attention to this critical account.

But for the record: there is nothing to prove that your interpretation of row 1 is the location that Roosevelt is referring to.

Regardless....even when taking typical eyewitness errors and/or perspective issues or general fallibility into consideration which should be expected
there is still no other viable explanation for his account other than a flyover.

Ahh, coming from the ahh 27 side, 27 heading ahh ahh east towards DC coming from that area, ahh it was the
highway. If you would've come up 395 ahh North headed toward the Pentagon you got off in south parking, you were like right there, except 395 went
right into 27.

Anyway....it doesn't matter because even when taking typical eyewitness errors and/or perspective issues or general fallibility into consideration
which should be expected there is still no other viable explanation for his account other than a flyover.

Anyway....it doesn't matter because even when taking typical eyewitness errors and/or perspective issues or general fallibility into
consideration which should be expected there is still no other viable explanation for his account other than a flyover.

By general fallibility, do you mean aircraft type, aircraft altitude, aircraft color, and timing?

Anyway....it doesn't matter because even when taking typical eyewitness errors and/or perspective issues or general fallibility into
consideration which should be expected there is still no other viable explanation for his account other than a flyover.

Like this maybe?

Roosevelt: It was, uh. . . it was heading, um. . . back across 27. . . and it looks like. . . it appeared to me- I was in the south, and that
plane was heading. . . like, um. . . southwest. . . coming out.

Roosevelt: Um, it looked like it went over on the mall entrance side and turned around; because you've got. . . the mall there, and then-
where I was, was south; and the plane,. . . from the direction it was sitting, was facing west; so it went. . . southwest away from the
Pentagon.

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