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Hello everyone, I believe there are some facts regarding AskVoat and recent events regarding @She's moderating that may have been missed by the casual observer. This is in response to Atko's rash decision to remove AskVoat for what amounts to the machinations of ten or so people.

Not only have most of you been trolled with character assassination to convince you to act irrationally. Let's also not forget, early on (Scandanavian) encourages other users to not provide evidence (archive). Apparently evidence is bait, and refuting it, according to Scandinavian, is "the oldest trick in the book".

Then we have the response to a select group of individuals and trolls who have orchestrated (probably independently) the lies that created this fake outrage. Atko Removes AskVoat from Defaults (archive), vindicating the pursuit of silencing dissenting opinions through downvote brigades and character assassinations. All because he disagrees with publicly discussed and agreed to guidelines, that anyone can also discuss, and disagreed with rules being enforced as rules.

Whatever you people think @She has done, it pales in comparison to the efforts of ElectroLumus, Scandinavian, Gatordontplaythatsht, FitmachoNaziAtheist, and Nomerasques, to spread mass hysteria to their benefit. Gatordontplaythatsht, Scandinavian, and Nomerasques are still gunning for askVoat, and FitMachoNaziAtheist posting ridiculous made up shit like this to fan the flames. All while using made up shit from troll user JTtheGhost. At the same time, Electrolumus gets to continuously shitpost and be upvoted for his efforts while enjoying newfound popularity in AskVoat2.

Not only have you all been had, but Atko has as well. The fact you blindly support punishments on moderators by Atko, especially in circumstances where you've all been deceived, speaks volumes to how easy you are to dupe. I will leave you with the following observation: AskVoat got removed by the collective opinions of fewer than ten individuals, in spite of far more people siding with @She. Do you call this freedom of speech or democracy, Voat? Idolizing someone who didn't actually do any work to investigate what was going on with AskVoat's moderating before acting, and relying on the ten or so people who generated the mob to decide for him?

It was not a stretch for that post to be classed as soapboxing. I agree it was borderline, and given it's subject (It was a community-oriented meta post about moderator guidelines) should have been handled with more care.