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The International Sailing Federation (ISAF) and U.S. Sailing have been leaders in the safety at sea movement for many years, and as such, have developed a set of safety recommendations for what offshore quality yachts and their crews should have aboard when heading out over the horizon. Many of their recommendations are required for entry in offshore racing events, but cruising sailors can easily look at them as a helpful set of parameters to follow when outfitting for their own coastal or offshore passages.

Just shy of 1K posts - and I was right again from the very beginning.

11-19-2014 01:14 PM

outbound

Yes agree you have a good idea for Stanley.
With conventional main if halyard parts you do not have the whole thing lying on your deck or in the sea. Even with no boom you can take a line from clew to snatch block to winch and keep sailing.

Have single line jiffy for the first two and double for the third with Dutchman to hold things in place.
Leisure furl just makes me nervous. What if with the stresses and strains the boom angle changes or the halyard breaks and dumps your whole main on deck just attached at foot and clew.

I don't know, seems to me the same thing can occur with a conventional mainsail, no?

Frien got a rip in his main on this trip. Given tear was below 2nd reef and just went to that reef. Then no stress on the torn section. Would think even if on a mandrel tear would continue.
Yes Jon I'm old school. Just not as old school as you.

That's a good point... ideally, I think any sail on a Leisure furl should still have cringles installed along the leech at various reef points, so that a strop could be led through and secured beneath the boom if deemed necessary... although, I've yet to see one like that...

Might be a good idea for Stanley Paris to add a strop to the clew of his main, as well... I'm pretty sure he has by now, however...

:-))

11-18-2014 05:59 PM

outbound

Re: Rallies Gone Wrong

Have single line jiffy for the first two and double for the third with Dutchman to hold things in place.
Leisure furl just makes me nervous. What if with the stresses and strains the boom angle changes or the halyard breaks and dumps your whole main on deck just attached at foot and clew. Also particularly with the third like to be able to shape it. Even with single line reefing between halyard tension traveler and vang can shape the other two.
Frien got a rip in his main on this trip. Given tear was below 2nd reef and just went to that reef. Then no stress on the torn section. Would think even if on a mandrel tear would continue.
Yes Jon I'm old school. Just not as old school as you.

Friend said one day they reefed/unreefed over 12x in a single 3h watch. Makes me think Jon is more man than me going forward each time to do this.

LOL! Yeah, but I probably have less distance to cover going from my cockpit to my mast, than you might have between your helm and the lines led aft to your cockpit... :-)

Trust me, if I had a boat the size of yours, I'd be going the Leisure-Furl route, as well...

11-16-2014 08:09 PM

outbound

Re: Rallies Gone Wrong

Good on ruffian.
Several boats traded fuel. We carry 200g and went through half of it. Even had to power sail with both jib and main up at times.
Thinking of just messy around in Eastern caribe for awhile. Wife will,call the shot on where next.
Internet via wifi is slow even with th booster so been bad about being on SN. Had a great sail at hull speed from bitter end to fat hogs bay today. Made the 12 to2 watches in a fresh water rinse worthwhile. Friend said one day they reefed/unreefed over 12x in a single 3h watch. Makes me think Jon is more man than me going forward each time to do this.
Picking out a marina. Any thoughts on good ones in BVI would be appreciated.

11-16-2014 12:11 PM

TomMaine

Re: Rallies Gone Wrong

When I read the winds were not cooperating, I worried for RUFFIAN. Iain and Fiona sail their passages, they have to. Even with their jerry jugs on deck, their range is limited compared to bigger boats. There's not a spare cubic inch left for extra tankage.

I marveled at how 2 people have been living aboard and moving that Sadler 34, always, for 3-4 years now. To get a sense of how packed the boat is, when they lift the sole, every cubic inch is full of canned foods and bottles(their bilge is insulated and dry-they have no bilge).

They revel in sailing off shore. Racers to the core, they're good at it(and enjoy it immensely)!

But if winds are light, RUFFIAN is challenged with her load(we sailed a week with them).

When they had wind on this passage, it was strong and on the nose. They can(and have), do that too.

But I could just see their sea-savvy thinking in falling off for Bermuda. They have time. Plenty of time.

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