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there are so many things do to in london close at midnite no way . in my 20's and 30's i was often out most weekends from friday nite til monday morning , great city . my kids very rarely see one of them on a friday sat , he's rolling out of clubs at 5/6 in the morning

Could you ask him where he would go for a couple pf pints @ 3am on a Tuesday without paying to get in and still with a massive chance of not being allowed in cos his shoes aint expensive enough or are the wrong colour.

Very strange thread with some very strange assertions! To me, London, the city I've lived in all my life (bar a few sojourns abroad) is not just a world class city, it is the preeminent city on the planet right now. The metropolitan mix has been mentioned, the fantastic public transport has been mentioned, others have slagged it off. I find I can get pretty much anywhere in this great city quickly and easily. Within 20 minutes journey (or less) from where I live I have access to some of the world's finest art galleries, museums, parks, restaurants, theatres, pubs, clubs, architecture, entertainment, markets, shops, sport of all kinds... I could go on. Furthermore, the transport in London is cheap compared to the rest of the UK (amazing perhaps, but true), and contrary to Kev's assertion, there is a wealth of excellent take away food from a breathtaking range of cultures, either in walking distance or a phone call away.

Really, it's an incredible place. That also happens to be home to the world's finest football team (when we win), the mighty Queens Park Rangers. A stone's throw from the Bush is Hammersmith riverside, with that beautiful sweep of the Thames as it arcs around Barnes on the south side, rich in History (fabulous riverside pubs like the Dove, where Charles the II and Nell Gwynne once dined), the homes of William Morris, Faraday, the place where the first telegraph once sent, houses featured in Dickens and Thackeray, beautiful walks, stunning vistas; the river sweeps on, to Kew, with its world class gardens, Richmond, with that gorgeous hill from which you can see all the way to the North downs, famously painted by Turner and others, Richmond Park with its herds of wild deer, the stunning Isabella plantation....

Then, in the other direction, headed East into smokey London Town, glorious bridges - some urbane, I grant you, some delightful, like Albert Bridge, Battersea Park, the power station, the Houses of Parliament, the Southbank, the Globe theatre, the Tate Modern..... on and on.... delight after delight, fascinating, endlessly interesting, as Samuel Johnson said: he who is tired of London is tired of life.

I just wish they hadn't insanely promoted diesel as a 'clean' fuel - the only downside to London is the pollution, which is seriously bad and needs to be sorted pronto. Apart from that, what an epic place to live.

Think alot depends on whereabouts you can afford to live in London. No doubt a great city but big difference between training it in for a night out from the burbs and the night bus back to an expensive sh.ithole

Very strange thread with some very strange assertions! To me, London, the city I've lived in all my life (bar a few sojourns abroad) is not just a world class city, it is the preeminent city on the planet right now. The metropolitan mix has been mentioned, the fantastic public transport has been mentioned, others have slagged it off. I find I can get pretty much anywhere in this great city quickly and easily. Within 20 minutes journey (or less) from where I live I have access to some of the world's finest art galleries, museums, parks, restaurants, theatres, pubs, clubs, architecture, entertainment, markets, shops, sport of all kinds... I could go on. Furthermore, the transport in London is cheap compared to the rest of the UK (amazing perhaps, but true), and contrary to Kev's assertion, there is a wealth of excellent take away food from a breathtaking range of cultures, either in walking distance or a phone call away.

Really, it's an incredible place. That also happens to be home to the world's finest football team (when we win), the mighty Queens Park Rangers. A stone's throw from the Bush is Hammersmith riverside, with that beautiful sweep of the Thames as it arcs around Barnes on the south side, rich in History (fabulous riverside pubs like the Dove, where Charles the II and Nell Gwynne once dined), the homes of William Morris, Faraday, the place where the first telegraph once sent, houses featured in Dickens and Thackeray, beautiful walks, stunning vistas; the river sweeps on, to Kew, with its world class gardens, Richmond, with that gorgeous hill from which you can see all the way to the North downs, famously painted by Turner and others, Richmond Park with its herds of wild deer, the stunning Isabella plantation....

Then, in the other direction, headed East into smokey London Town, glorious bridges - some urbane, I grant you, some delightful, like Albert Bridge, Battersea Park, the power station, the Houses of Parliament, the Southbank, the Globe theatre, the Tate Modern..... on and on.... delight after delight, fascinating, endlessly interesting, as Samuel Johnson said: he who is tired of London is tired of life.

I just wish they hadn't insanely promoted diesel as a 'clean' fuel - the only downside to London is the pollution, which is seriously bad and needs to be sorted pronto. Apart from that, what an epic place to live.

Could you ask him where he would go for a couple pf pints @ 3am on a Tuesday without paying to get in and still with a massive chance of not being allowed in cos his shoes aint expensive enough or are the wrong colour.

he's in spain for his 17th , spent a lot of my youth in the west end if u know where to look you'll find plenty of gaffs any day of the week

Could you ask him where he would go for a couple pf pints @ 3am on a Tuesday without paying to get in and still with a massive chance of not being allowed in cos his shoes aint expensive enough or are the wrong colour.

Not many I know of but both Empire and Hippodrome casino in Leicester Sq have 24hr bars and will let you in as long as you're not hammered/look like a tramp before you go in

Very strange thread with some very strange assertions! To me, London, the city I've lived in all my life (bar a few sojourns abroad) is not just a world class city, it is the preeminent city on the planet right now. The metropolitan mix has been mentioned, the fantastic public transport has been mentioned, others have slagged it off. I find I can get pretty much anywhere in this great city quickly and easily. Within 20 minutes journey (or less) from where I live I have access to some of the world's finest art galleries, museums, parks, restaurants, theatres, pubs, clubs, architecture, entertainment, markets, shops, sport of all kinds... I could go on. Furthermore, the transport in London is cheap compared to the rest of the UK (amazing perhaps, but true), and contrary to Kev's assertion, there is a wealth of excellent take away food from a breathtaking range of cultures, either in walking distance or a phone call away.

Really, it's an incredible place. That also happens to be home to the world's finest football team (when we win), the mighty Queens Park Rangers. A stone's throw from the Bush is Hammersmith riverside, with that beautiful sweep of the Thames as it arcs around Barnes on the south side, rich in History (fabulous riverside pubs like the Dove, where Charles the II and Nell Gwynne once dined), the homes of William Morris, Faraday, the place where the first telegraph once sent, houses featured in Dickens and Thackeray, beautiful walks, stunning vistas; the river sweeps on, to Kew, with its world class gardens, Richmond, with that gorgeous hill from which you can see all the way to the North downs, famously painted by Turner and others, Richmond Park with its herds of wild deer, the stunning Isabella plantation....

Then, in the other direction, headed East into smokey London Town, glorious bridges - some urbane, I grant you, some delightful, like Albert Bridge, Battersea Park, the power station, the Houses of Parliament, the Southbank, the Globe theatre, the Tate Modern..... on and on.... delight after delight, fascinating, endlessly interesting, as Samuel Johnson said: he who is tired of London is tired of life.

I just wish they hadn't insanely promoted diesel as a 'clean' fuel - the only downside to London is the pollution, which is seriously bad and needs to be sorted pronto. Apart from that, what an epic place to live.

Surprised really , usually the people who bang on about how s hit London is now are the people that have left , and are trying to make themselves feel better about deserting the city of their fathers . Me , i`ll still ride my scooter at 5 am in the summer over Waterloo bridge and fall in love with my city again ,each day.

Excellent post and this was how I felt when I pulled out of fenchurch street and saw how beautiful the city looked the old and the new sat side by side hence why I started thread