“That’s our thing,” she explained. “So the girls know that too. It’s our family holiday every year. We’ll go to Fiji and visit a different community or school and they see that their life is very privileged.”

Craft asks them “What aren’t you using anymore? What don’t you play with? What would you like to give to those beautiful children? Let’s find a better use for it.”

Decluttering also means having a clean work-space, which is extremely important for the busy mum-of-two. “We call it a vignette,” she told Wainwright. “If you look at one particular corner and you think ‘that works, I love that!’ then that’s going to make you feel good every time you walk past.”

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Buddy Bear is a new interactive website created to help parents comfort their child, particularly when they’re feeling unwell. Parents can create a personalised video for their child where Buddy Bear calls their name and sings their favourite nursery rhyme and can be easily downloaded via Buddybear.com.au.