Speech on November 12,
1987 in Johannesburg, South Africa: the Katz
version

November 12, 1987

WRITING
EARLY in 1996 to Kenneth McVay, the thoroughly incorruptible
Webmaster of the ADL-funded
Nizkor Website, South African citizen David
Katz
volunteered his recollections of a public lecture delivered
by David Irving in an open hall at Johannesburg in about
1987 (the date was in fact November 12, 1987).

McVay
reported with a whoop to Deborah
Lipstadt
on March 6, 1996 that he had received this from "a 'David
Katz'", and asked her for any help she could give in
providing independent verification of the essentials.

But --
yippee, who cares! -- without bothering to check further
either with Mr Irving or anybody else whether Katz's
ten-year-old recollections might be at fault, McVay
recklessly posted the Katz
version
on his Website a few hours later.

EXTRACTS FROM A LECTURE TOUR GIVEN BY DAVID IRVING IN
JOHANNESBURG SOUTH AFRICA 1987

I AM not certain of the exact date that David Irving
addressed a well-attended crowd of people at the Aukland
Park Moth Hall. The purpose of his lecture was to launch his
new book on Churchill titled Churchill's
War. I would say the year was 1987 which is
the launch date of his book. Prior to attending his lecture
I had read all of his Hitler's
War books. I must admit that I had found
his perspective to be quite interesting if not illuminating
in certain respects. His now famous comment that no
documentary evidence existed indicating that Hitler had
ordered the systematic liquidation of the Jews, did not
overly perturb me and it certainly did not prepare me for
what was to come!

The lecture was hosted by a certain Clive
Derby-Lewis. Mr Derby-Lewis was a member of parliament for
the right wing Conservative party. Subsequently Mr
Derby-Lewis was sentenced to death by the South African
Courts in 1993 for his part in the assassination of Chris
Hani who was the chairman of the South African Communist
party and chief of staff of the military wing of the African
National Congress. Mr Hani was shot down in cold blood by a
fanatical Polish hitman who was sponsored by
Derby-Lewis.[*]

[* Not having benefited from the recent
amnesties, Derby-Lewis is still under sentence
of death in Pretoria prison; informed opinion is that
the sentence is unlikely to be executed.]

Picture: a section of the
Johannesburg audience

The first thing that struck me as being odd was the
huge picture of David Irving placed behind the speaker's
podium. The picture looked very Mussolini like with jutting
jaw and folded arms.[*] The speaker congratulated Mr
Derby-Lewis on his recent election showing and commented on
how important the Conservative party was to holding off the
threat of niggerisation of the white culture. He complained
bitterly of the "Nigger" problem in the UK [**] and
that we must not allow the same invasion of our white
heritage. The speaker proceeded to discuss his latest book
on Churchill interspersed with a credible impersonation of
Mr Churchill.

At question time he was asked about what he thought of the
Holocaust. He responded as follows:

He preferred not to answer any questions on
this matter as it was a minefield full of traps. However
he was highly sceptical about gassing at Auschwitz.
Auschwitz was a synthetic rubber factory. He did not want
his audience to worry about the holocaust as there were
no Jews in the audience. It was not their problem.

The holocaust did not interest him in the
slightest. The German Jewish problem was an internal
squabble that had nothing to do with the British. The
British should have told the Poles and the Jews to sort
out their own problems.

There was no documentary evidence of the
holocaust, and that if it did take place it did so
without Hitlers knowledge. In fact it is ironic that
Hitler was in fact protective over the Jews. In fact
Hitler had never personally killed a man.

David Irving then declared that he was not a fascist
nor an anti-Semite. However Jews irritated him and they had
no sense of humour.

The Jews should have been sent to Madagascar
in order to protect the world from the Jews and to
protect the Jews. The holocaust was largely a fable, a
myth perpetuated by the Jews in order to extort money
from the Germans.

[* There was no such picture. Deborah
Lipstadt writes in her libellous book Denying the
Holocaust of a no less fictional portrait of Adolf
Hitler which he says is hanging in Mr Irving's London
study.

He found it strange that there are so many
survivors of the death camps. Every second Jew is a
survivor. He was very happy for the survivors that they
did indeed make an escape. Either the Germans
systematically eliminated Jews or not. Why where there so
many survivors?

Other interesting comments where as
follows:

Franklin Roosevelt was too clever for the Jews and
was most probably not influenced by them. However the
same cannot be said for presidents before or
after.

He had only personally encountered the problem of
the illuminati in South Africa.

Rudolf Hess deserved the Nobel peace prize for his
efforts to bring peace between the UK and
Germany.

Winston
Churchill was influenced by Chaim Hertzog.[*]
Churchill was funded by Jews to a large extent.

Mr Irving then wound up the evening by announcing
that he would be addressing a memorial service for Rudolf
Hess at some Johannesburg location.

I hope that the above will be of interest to you.
Please inform me if you require any further
information.

[* Sic. Chaim Weizmann. Mr Irving
did not address a "memorial service" for Rudolf Hess; he
lectured on the Hess documents in British Public Record Office
files, to audiences in Windhoek and Pretoria.
Die Welt, Germany's leading
national newspaper, commissioned him to write their full-page
obituary for the Nazi leader in August 1987.]