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Dianne Mae

Allgemein (13.09.17 - 21:27)

Does anyone know an app that incorporates Evernote's features and Wunderlist's feature in a single app? Basically rich text formatting notes (including bulleting/numbered lists and ability to indent them) + todos with adjustable reminders, all organizable in a folderish/grouped manner?

Luis Aurélio

(09.11.17 - 15:52)

@Dianne Mae:I would suggest Bear note app, but it doesn't have reminders alerts.

What's all the excitement about Wunderlist 3? Yeah yeah yeah...sharing, public lists, etc. 6 Wunderkinder claims 60 improvements?! I am impavid, to say the least. Additionally, it is another app with a monthly/yearly premium model. I would much rather pay on the front-end for a robust app.

When I first tried this app out, I was really enthusiastic about it. I was using it not only to make to-do, and shopping list; I was keeping notes on it. I happily made a whole bunch of lists -- with subtasks and notes -- using my iPad. I signed up for an account. I downloaded the desktop app and was about to install the add on for my browser. I thought "It'll be great having this sync across my iDevices & computer!"

The next morning, I sat down with my iPad to add some items to my lists. But Wunderlist would not open until I signed in. I went to the support page & discovered something that had not been mentioned before:

ONCE YOU SET UP EVEN A FREE ACCOUNT, YOU CAN NO LONGER USE WUNDERLIST OFF LINE.

Yes, that's right folks! You may have thought you were trading privacy for convenience, the way we all do with Google calendar and such; and that would be okay. But with Google calendar, you can still read your calendar when you are off line. No such luck with Wunderlist.

Your cable service is out, and you want to get your grocery list? Sorry. Write a new list. Traveling & staying at a hotel which charges a fortune for internet service, but you need to look at the list of follow up items for the meetings you've been at all day? Tough. Pay a fortune, or go find a McDonalds that is still open after Starbucks has closed down for the night.

BUT IT GETS WORSE.

Having discovered that I couldn't use Wunderlist off line, I decided that I'd just keep my lists on my iPad, and give up on the syncing and set about canceling my account. Because I was not sure exactly what the WL support page meant when it said "if you delete your account, all information, tasks, lists & your email will be removed from our database" I took screenshots of all my lists & notes.

My caution was justified; as soon as I deleted my Wunderlist account, ALL MY LISTS DISAPPEARED from my iPad. Apparently, WL had put all my data on its servers, providing me with no backup whatsoever.

Thanks to my screenshots, I can reconstruct my lists and, because I had not yet made many lists, it'll only take me an hour or two to retype them into Wunderlist. But this huge gap in the app could be far more serious for other people.

Say you have been using the Pro service for months to coordinate with other people on an important project, and your phone is stolen. By someone who figures out your passwords. Or someone just gets hold of your password. Or some hackers get into Wunderlist's servers and steal a bunch of passwords. That happened to Twitter.

I can tell you from my experience that all anyone needs to destroy all you data in Wunderlist is your password. WL doesn't even require an e mail verification, let alone something more secure. They just warn you that deleting your account will delete all your lists & that it cannot be undone; then you click the "I understand" button, enter your password. And poof! Your list are gone. And there is no way you can get them back.

I really like this app and I'm sure I will use it a lot; but I'll use it on one iPad and keep my lists out of the cloud. If you get this app and want to sign up for an account, great. Just be aware that there are risks to your data that the developers are not telling you about up front.

I'd suggest that people who are considering Wunderlist Pro to help them plan & coordinate on projects look at Action Method. To synch & share, you do have to get a subscription ($99/yr v. $49 for Wunderlist), but you can use the app off line, and it will sync whenever you sign in again. Action Method was designed specifically by Scott Belsky's team (Behance) based on his research on how creative people get from ideas to completed projects. I checked out other apps, and find myself coming back to Action Method. It's good for someone who can understand GTD, et al, but who gets stuck prioritizing and can't quite implement those systems. Though the subscription price is on the high side, Behance provides very professional & responsive support.

UniJam ON 😜

(03.06.13 - 23:49)

I am very surprised about your review, to be honest.I just tested it. I can add tasks and lists offline. Later, when online, all changes were synced properly.Also I don't understand your puzzlement that, after reading that all lists and task will be deleted by deleting an account, this indeed happened after deleting your account.

However, I certainly will look into "Action Method". Sounds interesting, but 99 € is a steep price.What I like especially about Wunderlist is its accessibility. Simple to use, simple to understand, free (basic version), on all platforms... With that it is easy to bring others to collaborate using a digital ToDo list.

UniJam ON 😜

(04.06.13 - 08:07)

ActionMethod really looks interesting BUT:I don't understand...The website states, that the free web version does not allow collaboration and only up to 50 ("new" - what does this mean?) tasks.The iPad app (1.79 €) description states that "upon purchase" (of this app?) I would get unlimited use of all features. There are no inapp purchases visible.This should therefore include the syncing and "delegation" (collaboration?) feature.I get very mixed information there.Adding to my skepticism is the fact, that the formerly regularly (every 1- about 6 months) updated app was not updated since September last year (over 9 months by now). Will the service and app still maintained?

Considering, that the very similar service by Producteev is completely free by now, ActionMethod will have a hard time to stay in the market. How do you see that?