So...I guess I'll have to explain why no one is doing anything about what they've learned. We're so mindhacked it's ridiculous.

Quoting: MagTog

Splain it.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2283148

As soon as I can, I will. I've been getting pretty slammed at work. I'll most likely create a new thread explaining it.

Quoting: MagTog

Still no time really.

Basically, we're all screwed because we were conditioned to accept that the MLK/Ghandi/Mandela/Hippie methods of opposition are the only acceptable, civil ways to oppose the government. Now, any effort to try a different method is hamstrung by the groups that elevate to sainthood those individuals devoted to hippie-esque opposition, as these groups shout down and demonize the ones that don't want to try the same old hippie-esque methods that have largely been failures.

Also, no one can get the ball rolling with their own methods easily because people have been conditioned to listen only to "authorities" of some kind, and even if they don't, they do not want to be participants in something that will be attacked by the holier-than-thou hippie mentality that's pervasive throughout the media, universities, and government. Through our lack of collaboration, corrosion of society and morality, combined with everyone living paycheck to paycheck - completely reliant on others (thus conformant as to not offend) - we've become atomized. Cattle.

Our best idea to oppose those who maliciously destroy us and what we hold dear is to get out in the street, hold a sign and whine? Oooh yeah, that'll show 'em. That's why nothing will get better. We're spineless cattle. Moo away.

We've all heard the reasoning the government uses to justify their extensive surveillance and intel networks. They say "It is for the public good, to keep the public safe from enemies foriegn and domestic".

Well, what kind of info are they gathering and storing forever? All internet and phone data, gps tracking, drone and satellite imagery, millions of video surveillance devices in businesses and homes, as well as millions of traffic video cams and other city surveillance.

So, they've set up an excellent system to catch terrorists...like your neighborhood oathkeeper, homeschooler, christian, patriot...and the islamic terrorists. Right?

So, since this system is so massive and contains basically all the information needed to catch perps and keep us safe, we should be hearing about more and more arrests of child abductors, murderers, rapists, etc...right? Every time we hear about a new abduction or murder -- or terrorist bombing -- we should expect the perp to be arrested and the child found in a matter of hours to days. Not weeks. Not months. Not years. And almost never "unsolved". Right?

Since we as citizens clearly do not see those kinds of results, I don't think we're seeing the correct bang-for-buck ratio with this surveillance system we paid for.

It also proves that the government doesn't give a shit about us, and that they have been covering for murderers, pedophiles, rapists...letting children be taken from their parents and be sexually assaulted and murdered, or kidnapped and abused for years, etc. With their all too untimely discovery of who blew up that apparent surveillance deadzone at the finish line at the boston marathon, plus the abilities their systems give them, it is clear we were being lied to about when they knew who did it and that they were being "sought" (they clearly knew where they were the whole time with this system).

In conclusion, the government is guilty of not only Constitutional violations through the use of this system, but they are also covering up murders and kidnappings in order to not expose the reach of their system, and they are at the very least derelict in their duties. QED.

Suck it NSA fascists.:just_sticks:

Quoting: MagTog

Maybe this could be a sort of wake up call, in the sense of realizing that there could be much worse problems that we could face in the future. And trying to save the entire world, would only result in failure 1000x over.

We've all heard the reasoning the government uses to justify their extensive surveillance and intel networks. They say "It is for the public good, to keep the public safe from enemies foriegn and domestic".

Well, what kind of info are they gathering and storing forever? All internet and phone data, gps tracking, drone and satellite imagery, millions of video surveillance devices in businesses and homes, as well as millions of traffic video cams and other city surveillance.

So, they've set up an excellent system to catch terrorists...like your neighborhood oathkeeper, homeschooler, christian, patriot...and the islamic terrorists. Right?

So, since this system is so massive and contains basically all the information needed to catch perps and keep us safe, we should be hearing about more and more arrests of child abductors, murderers, rapists, etc...right? Every time we hear about a new abduction or murder -- or terrorist bombing -- we should expect the perp to be arrested and the child found in a matter of hours to days. Not weeks. Not months. Not years. And almost never "unsolved". Right?

Since we as citizens clearly do not see those kinds of results, I don't think we're seeing the correct bang-for-buck ratio with this surveillance system we paid for.

It also proves that the government doesn't give a shit about us, and that they have been covering for murderers, pedophiles, rapists...letting children be taken from their parents and be sexually assaulted and murdered, or kidnapped and abused for years, etc. With their all too untimely discovery of who blew up that apparent surveillance deadzone at the finish line at the boston marathon, plus the abilities their systems give them, it is clear we were being lied to about when they knew who did it and that they were being "sought" (they clearly knew where they were the whole time with this system).

In conclusion, the government is guilty of not only Constitutional violations through the use of this system, but they are also covering up murders and kidnappings in order to not expose the reach of their system, and they are at the very least derelict in their duties. QED.

Suck it NSA fascists.

Quoting: MagTog

Maybe this could be a sort of wake up call, in the sense of realizing that there could be much worse problems that we could face in the future. And trying to save the entire world, would only result in failure 1000x over.

Quoting: Royal 1354601

True, you can't save everyone. You can save some though.Right now, the only ones that benefit from this system are the feds and their intel employees.

If things go really bad, maybe people will cry out for the NSA to release the evidence against those causing the harm. At that point, we will only be giving them permission and legitimacy to continue spying on us.

I hope that's not what this play is all about, but there are federal plans for this case for sure..

We've all heard the reasoning the government uses to justify their extensive surveillance and intel networks. They say "It is for the public good, to keep the public safe from enemies foriegn and domestic".

Well, what kind of info are they gathering and storing forever? All internet and phone data, gps tracking, drone and satellite imagery, millions of video surveillance devices in businesses and homes, as well as millions of traffic video cams and other city surveillance.

So, they've set up an excellent system to catch terrorists...like your neighborhood oathkeeper, homeschooler, christian, patriot...and the islamic terrorists. Right?

So, since this system is so massive and contains basically all the information needed to catch perps and keep us safe, we should be hearing about more and more arrests of child abductors, murderers, rapists, etc...right? Every time we hear about a new abduction or murder -- or terrorist bombing -- we should expect the perp to be arrested and the child found in a matter of hours to days. Not weeks. Not months. Not years. And almost never "unsolved". Right?

Since we as citizens clearly do not see those kinds of results, I don't think we're seeing the correct bang-for-buck ratio with this surveillance system we paid for.

It also proves that the government doesn't give a shit about us, and that they have been covering for murderers, pedophiles, rapists...letting children be taken from their parents and be sexually assaulted and murdered, or kidnapped and abused for years, etc. With their all too untimely discovery of who blew up that apparent surveillance deadzone at the finish line at the boston marathon, plus the abilities their systems give them, it is clear we were being lied to about when they knew who did it and that they were being "sought" (they clearly knew where they were the whole time with this system).

In conclusion, the government is guilty of not only Constitutional violations through the use of this system, but they are also covering up murders and kidnappings in order to not expose the reach of their system, and they are at the very least derelict in their duties. QED.

We've all heard the reasoning the government uses to justify their extensive surveillance and intel networks. They say "It is for the public good, to keep the public safe from enemies foriegn and domestic".

Well, what kind of info are they gathering and storing forever? All internet and phone data, gps tracking, drone and satellite imagery, millions of video surveillance devices in businesses and homes, as well as millions of traffic video cams and other city surveillance.

So, they've set up an excellent system to catch terrorists...like your neighborhood oathkeeper, homeschooler, christian, patriot...and the islamic terrorists. Right?

So, since this system is so massive and contains basically all the information needed to catch perps and keep us safe, we should be hearing about more and more arrests of child abductors, murderers, rapists, etc...right? Every time we hear about a new abduction or murder -- or terrorist bombing -- we should expect the perp to be arrested and the child found in a matter of hours to days. Not weeks. Not months. Not years. And almost never "unsolved". Right?

Since we as citizens clearly do not see those kinds of results, I don't think we're seeing the correct bang-for-buck ratio with this surveillance system we paid for.

It also proves that the government doesn't give a shit about us, and that they have been covering for murderers, pedophiles, rapists...letting children be taken from their parents and be sexually assaulted and murdered, or kidnapped and abused for years, etc. With their all too untimely discovery of who blew up that apparent surveillance deadzone at the finish line at the boston marathon, plus the abilities their systems give them, it is clear we were being lied to about when they knew who did it and that they were being "sought" (they clearly knew where they were the whole time with this system).

In conclusion, the government is guilty of not only Constitutional violations through the use of this system, but they are also covering up murders and kidnappings in order to not expose the reach of their system, and they are at the very least derelict in their duties. QED.

Suck it NSA fascists.:just_sticks:

Quoting: MagTog

This Thread needs to be pinned forever and used to smackdown Alphabet soup shills, just like with the Franklin Scandal, Jimmy Savile and Sandusky...NEVER let the aide and abetters (who are everyone in .gov, MSM and corporations) get away with their evil. the lying excuses and crocodile tears don't work anymore you lizardswine

That should make sure we're all flagged as potential anarchist's looking to disturb the power structure.

The NSA Blows, there is not a single instance where any of the intelligence they've gathered has actually prevented terrorism, instead they've introduced a new kind of terrorism, the statist power police state...

Careful, dont call Clapper a lier and his co-hort the General a murderer.. Yes, he murder Barneby Jack, a computer security expert due to give a talk on the fail-safes in Bluetooth controlled Automobiles, then the Journlist interested in investigating the Case was killed... His Car apparently got hacked and drove him into a brick wall at 199mph and shortly after Barneby Jack was DEAD!

Here's a great video telling every single american and british person what we should all do about this invasive level of survailence into our existance by ex-war veterans driven mad with their own power and with even a lesser grip on reality!

"Numbers released by Yahoo, Google, Microsoft, LinkedIn and Facebook show that in the first six months of 2013, the NSA submitted requests for private information from at least 59,000 user accounts," the Switch's own Timothy Lee reports.

We've all known about this for a very long time thanks to the efforts of of other Liberal Minded People.

That where not afraid to speak out and say "hold on, what your doing or attempting to do is totally wrong!"

The fact they've now been caught sabotaging systems that belong to world banking "Juniper IDS" and "Cisco" just shows you how these fuckers have been slowly taking over the world with we'll invade there computer system "he-he-ha-har!"

Mother-fuckers!

None of it was China, none of it was Syria, none of it was half the people they're claiming was responcible.. They've been sabotaging all of us over a prolonged period, to help keep themselves in Office and promote the Fedrel Exchange!

Then there they are infecting all the technology and trying to Decrypt the internet...

Sadly the Internet doesnt work the way that they think, because a Soldier in Uniform trained to Cyber on-line is a Laughing stock to the rest of the Hacker community..

Oh you penetrate stuff do you??? What a shame you couldnt stop someone penetrating the Supreme Court and taking down it's own web-site whilst your hyping the need for the Military to take back over the Civilian part of the Internet..

We all know that you want to control it all... But perhaps it's time for you to realise, we know that you know and we know what your trying to do... An we are opposed to it!

Lord if the nsa has all the information, emails, phone calls, videos etc etc , why are they protecting the murderers, pedophile networks , drug lords, kidnappers and worse, i pray they and the other groups who would be like them, especially the private ones, experience exposure of their inner workings and systems, publicly, regularly, in ways that lead many to deliverance, repentance and salvation, whilst incapacitating their ability to use quantum computers/advanced science/occultism, to be one jump ahead, let it all go public, out of their control or ability to steer/obfuscate or ameliorate, to or in their favor, amen YAHshua/Jesus

Lord if the nsa has all the information, emails, phone calls, videos etc etc , why are they protecting the murderers, pedophile networks , drug lords, kidnappers and worse, i pray they and the other groups who would be like them, especially the private ones, experience exposure of their inner workings and systems, publicly, regularly, in ways that lead many to deliverance, repentance and salvation, whilst incapacitating their ability to use quantum computers/advanced science/occultism, to be one jump ahead, let it all go public, out of their control or ability to steer/obfuscate or ameliorate, to or in their favor, amen YAHshua/Jesus

Quoting: FHL(C) nli 53892455

They protect the thugs, mafiosos, cartels, rapists, murderers and pedophiles because the Federal Government and Jesuits make great use of these people. When you have dirt like that on people, you can make them do just about anything you want. Easy slaves.