See, thats what I am talking about, how old is bugger? Can he really call the shots? That's why we (bugger and I) are in competition, man! And show some respect, if I cannot mention the word???, neither should you. That is over the top, K. Simply not allowed under these circumstances(if you know exactly what I mean, and if not, ask me, I dare you). If bugger is all that, what am I- Please don't answer that here, please!..................Clyde