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Wait a minute, so I cant blame a union member whos union is sucking (sucked) the lifeblood out of the state? Sorry there is greed all up and down the line and I will blame them for it.

Let me ask you. Where you work, do you try and make the most money and get the most benefits there? If you do, then you are doing the same as they are, and as such then you are as you put it, sucking the life blood out of the company you work for.

When I dont get a paid sick day to save my life and I have to listen to their griping? My tax dollars goes into their pensions when I have to settle for a stinking 401k that will prolly get robbed repeatedly over the years by wallstreet FUCK THAT I will place the blame. OMG I could tell you stories of CO's milking the system for all its worth and THEN I HAVE listen to them gripe about it, again FUCK THAT.

Then you have an option, take what they pay you, or find some thing better and tell them where to stick it. The unions didn't give them selves those prem. bennies, the Elected officials did, to garner their votes and kickbacks in the form of campaign contributions.

I work retail, 44 hours a week min. Its hard work at times, but you know what, the benefits are really good. If my boss should decide tomorrow to double my pay, and to dramatically improve my benefits beyond norm, and as a result the company suffers, is it my fault the company fails?

No.

It is the fault of my boss who didn't do his job in managing pay and benefits.

I can't fault the union worker for wanting the most they can get, as I try to get the most my self. But I can fault those who blatantly give them more then they should

I HAVE TO HEAR THE CRYING WHEN THEY HAVE TO GIVE BACK SOMETHING. AGAIN FUCK THAT

If your boss came up to you and said that the company was hurting, and as a result, you had to give back 25% of your pay, would you cry foul?

Of course you would.

Originally Posted by Bailey

No **** FACE I dont give a **** what you make but when I have to listen to ******** like you ***** and moan when you have to give back ANYTHING, SO go **** yourself douche bag. I PAY your salary so I get to ***** about it and you dont have a right to complain about it. I work my *** off in a demanding job with little benefits and I need to hear you crying about losing some of those you have? You should thank me and go on your way. I want you to ask yourself who is going to have to pay back all that money to your stinking pension? ME (the taxpayer)I will have to pay in it again.

I have had it up to here with listening to all the civil servants in this state ***** about having to go without a raise for a year or might have to pay a little into their health beni's. I wouldnt paint everyone with a broad brush but it seems like every CO I know of or heard of is milking the systems so I am sure its not a few people here and there.

Twinkle twinkle little star.

Have fun in the dome. With a post like that, I may just join in. And I'm not one known for the Dome.

Your post look like many over at the DUmp. Horrid spelling, full of profanity, and filled with nothing but hate.

"The efforts of the government alone will never be enough. In the end the people must choose and the people must help themselves" ~ JFK; from his famous inauguration speech (What Democrats sounded like before today's neo-Liberals hijacked that party)

And as a taxpayer, I understand. I voted for Christie. I knew what he was about but what people aren't hearing outside of the state is that he's a typical politician. He wants cuts? Then stop using a helicopter to go to his son's baseball game. Crap like that.

And as a taxpayer, I understand. I voted for Christie. I knew what he was about but what people aren't hearing outside of the state is that he's a typical politician. He wants cuts? Then stop using a helicopter to go to his son's baseball game. Crap like that.

I have yet to meet a politician that believes the cutting needs to start at the top and go down rather than the other way around. Just for the hell of it, I checked out the state of Louisiana's finances. In eleven months Jindal hired 3k extra state employees. I assume most were unclassified which resulted in 300 million in extra salaries while the state has a shortfall of 1 billion. So what does he do. He cuts education, hospitals and freezes classified employee salaries. However, those freezes do not apply to legislators or unclassified employees. Plus, there are thousands of these employees that make between $100k to a half a million dollars a year. All I can say is that shit rolls down hill.

And as a taxpayer, I understand. I voted for Christie. I knew what he was about but what people aren't hearing outside of the state is that he's a typical politician. He wants cuts? Then stop using a helicopter to go to his son's baseball game. Crap like that.

I do think that stunts like that are not in keeping with his message. However, I have to say, my NJ friend, that it pales in comparison to the abuses "certain" public employee unions have inflicted upon this state. I empathize with your situation to a degree due to the truly dangerous nature of your job (like firefighters and police). But the biggest bitches in this fight are those in the teacher's unions who not only face less danger, but they fail most often.

If you worked outside of the state payroll, NJ, you would probably share the same frustration of those that might feel little pity for public servants (who the taxpayers employ) who receive substantially better compensation/benefit packages that they do by virtue of a union that can hold the politicians and public hostage.

At the end of the day, it's the fact that NJ, like most states and the country have no money. The Democrats spent it all.

I feel for you, man, and respect you, but that is the bottom line, helicopter rides or not. Welcome to the new normal the Liberals hoped we'd change to.

"The efforts of the government alone will never be enough. In the end the people must choose and the people must help themselves" ~ JFK; from his famous inauguration speech (What Democrats sounded like before today's neo-Liberals hijacked that party)