Emergency legislation to avoid the economy-threatening fiscal cliff ran into vehement New Year's Day opposition from House Republicans, casting doubt on the divided government's ability to prevent widespread tax increases and painful, across-the-board federal spending cuts.

"I do not support the bill. We are looking, though, for the best path forward," House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., declared after a closed-door meeting of his party's rank and file.

While Speaker John Boehner took no public position, an attempt to add spending cuts was all but certain before the leadership called for a final House vote on the measure that cleared the Senate hours earlier in a pre-dawn vote of 89-8...

A One-Party government, some with D's and some with R's, but nevertheless, they're all the same.

There is NO VOICE of the real people who are being screwed to pander for votes from Illegals, Banks, Lobbyists, Unions, and the inner-city tribal parasites. With those living off others at near-50% levels now, there is NO WAY that working folks, self-responsible folks, or those who have pride in paying their own way through life can EVER get back to the U.S. Constitution's intent, or having their earnings (and soon, their Savings) confiscated to buy votes and pay for the vote-buying of the past 10 years....

It appears that House conservatives have leadership by the short hairs. First break We the People have had in this debate yet.

Leadership knows they won’t get a bill passed without conservative support and they further know if they reach across the aisle to Dems the base will go into open revolt. Which would be the effective end of the Republican Party.

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posted on 01/01/2013 3:07:37 PM PST
by Colonel_Flagg
("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)

I'm contacting my Senators and Representatives and suggesting CUTS in welfare and all other social programs. I do not believe that it is in the best interest of our nation to extend unemployment benefits yet again. We need to cull the rolls for all charitable assistance, leaving only the deserving needy and truly disabled. Please contact your Senators and Representatives and tell them that Americans do not need more debt. We are stumbling under the load.

The news media came up with this “fiscal cliff” bs to destroy the GOP.

There is no cliff. the media is wanting a raising of taxes that will only cover less than a week of government spending. this is their cliff. The media says if the GOP don't raise taxes on the rich then the country will go over a cliff. No bigger lie has ever been told over and over again to everyone in the country so that everyone is talking about this stupid cliff but no one knows what the cliff is only what the media says “ that the GOP saying no to taxes on the rich will put the country over a cliff” = pure bs lies. there is no deficit reduction at all in this stupid bill but an increase of 330 billion in spending

The U.S.A is a dictatorship and the news media are the dictators.

call GOP Congressmen in the House, tell them not to vote for this ridiculous Bill , nor any deal ,there is no cliff as that fiscal cliff is media lies to force them to agree to tax increases.

Congress switchboard number: (202) 224-3121

tell them to adjourn ,no vote , tell them nuts. the media, Obama, Pelosi want this bill passed. don't give it to them. and no a meteor will not hit the Earth as the media makes it seem like with this fiscal cliff bs call tomorrow if busy or closed today:

The U.S. and world are in deep economic trouble, no matter what! The real questions are: For how long; is there an actual “end point” to all of this “mess”; and, is there no actual “end point”, ever, until the world, actually and officially, ends?

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posted on 01/01/2013 3:26:59 PM PST
by johnthebaptistmoore
(The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)

If this passes the House, everyone registered Republican should switch their voter registration to Independent. They are choosing to ignore and alienate us anyway. Maybe doing this en masse will help reinforce the message that we are tired of their crap and are looking for more serious representation.

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posted on 01/01/2013 3:27:58 PM PST
by voicereason
(The RNC is the "One-night stand" you wish you could forget.)

I pity the GOP Rino Monkeys that vote for this bill.
I hope most of them can line up jobs with Trent Lott’s Lobbying Firm
and other k-street money changer companies, because many will not
survive walking the plank for Bonehead.

If this passes the House, everyone registered Republican should switch their voter registration to Independent. They are choosing to ignore and alienate us anyway. Maybe doing this en masse will help reinforce the message that we are tired of their crap and are looking for more serious representation.

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posted on 01/01/2013 3:29:23 PM PST
by voicereason
(The RNC is the "One-night stand" you wish you could forget.)

I think, so long as were not going to cut spending, the tax rates on everybody SHOULD go up. We need to tax at the rate that were spending. Everybody needs to have skin in the game.

I’m retired and part of my income is SS. I would gladly take a 10% cut so long as every government expenditure was also cut by 10%. That would mean everything including defense, social programs and all government salaries etc. In the long run such a cut would be good for me...

Most voters still want President Obama and Congress to avoid the fiscal cliff of big tax hikes and automatic across-the-board spending cuts scheduled to kick in next Tuesday, but fewer than ever think a deal is likely. Voters tend to blame congressional Republicans more than the president for the impasse.

I think, so long as were not going to cut spending, the tax rates on everybody SHOULD go up. We need to tax at the rate that were spending. Everybody needs to have skin in the game.

well I agree everyone should have skin in the game. However you won't get much going after poor people that don't pay taxes now. It might be the right thing to do but it won't counteract the spending. We should starve the beast and REDUCE taxes. Otherwise there is zero pressure to cut spending.

Also - why worry about the debt? Those young people are voting for Obama in droves. Even my own children. We have attempted to teach many of them and work for the right thing to reduce spending and debt burden on future generations. But no one is listening to us. We are old and will die out. So these young people will have to deal with the mess.

It’s NOT about cutting spending! It is only about WHO gets to dole out the $$ to their supporters and in what amounts. That is why The Republicans raised the debt ceiling. This allowed both sides to fund their supporters, with the promise of more to come after the Presidential election.

Where the GOP missed the boat was failing to understand that there are many more middle class and lower class Americans than there are upper middle and upper class working and business voters. By keeping the working class unemployed and on extended benefits while expanding benefits for the poor, Obama jumped beyond traditional party politics based upon party platforms and moved directly to the quid pro quo direct purchase of votes.

The pubbies have been trying to transfer payments through business growth with favors to industry by legislation. Obama cut out the middleman (Congress) and went factory direct. He has taken the giveaway game to a level the GOP cannot match. Too bad the GOP compromised their principles for a congressional seat.

Time for a huge midterm primary effort and then a new party for 2016.

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posted on 01/01/2013 4:12:38 PM PST
by Billyv
(Freedom isn't Free! Get off the sidelines!)

Leadership knows they wont get a bill passed without conservative support...

Sure they will, with plenty of votes to spare.

I read a Reuters story yesterday that said the bill only needed some "moderate" Republicans to join the rats in the House for passage. The problem Boehner has is that he can't bring a bill to the floor for a vote and let it pass mostly by Democrat votes. That would show the party base that the rats can run roughshod over the GOP with barely a fight. Boehner and the Republicans would look like complete fools, and Boehner would be doomed as Speaker.

Im retired and part of my income is SS. I would gladly take a 10% cut so long as every government expenditure was also cut by 10%.

Not me. I want every last freaking dime I got coming to me after spending a lifetime working and having half of it confiscated and dumped down the government toilet for rat politicians to buy the votes of their moocher base. That social security check is my casino money.

You would be far better off taking that $200 a month and accumulating gold coins to stash away for your grandchildren. Buy it off grid and tell nobody - - save what you can in a way the scumbag government and the Democrat moochers can’t get their filthy paws on it.

But I have become cynical. Downright jaded. When, in 2008, the majority of American voters deliberately elected an African communist as President and Commander-in-Chief I figured the end was near. When the same growing moocher class re-elected that scumbag I knew it was all over. The parasites outnumber the hosts now, and America is dead. The Democrats have won.

It’s every man for himself now. Hunker down, stay below the radar, and take care of your family. But most of all, have some fun Personally, I’m having a blast! My Rottie puppy is driving me nuts, but sitting in my lawn chair and watching my chickens is strangley relaxing. For exercise I cut, split, and stack firewood for my woodstove. It’s a 2200 btu cast-iron job with a cooktop!

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