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December 7th, Republican Presidential candidate Donald Trump again made headlines with a brash politically-incorrect proposal to suspend all Muslim refugees and immigrants from entering the United States. The suspension proposed is temporary until all Muslims recently entering the U.S. can be properly identified, vetted, and intentions determined.

The Leftist media and Progressive “establishment” Republicans are boiling over with outrage over Trump’s proposal. They claim America does not discriminate against immigrants based on religion; that there is no religious test for admission into the U.S. Ironically, the Left’s immigration policy has been discriminating disproportionately against accepting Syrian Christian refugees since day one. So, you know there’s a catch—as always with the Leftists and Progressive Republicans.

When did the Left become so passionate about religious liberty? When did Leftists begin embracing freedom of faith? When did Leftists suddenly come running to the defense of dolts clinging to their guns, Bibles, and Korans? Never. Not now. Not ever. Don’t believe a word of it.

The Left is outraged anyone would dare judge, measure, or hold accountable the actions of members of a non-Jewish/Christian faith. After all, the Left’s creed of moral relativism states everything is relative; who are we to judge what is right and wrong, good or evil? The Left suffers willful intellectual dishonesty. (For a purpose ultimately. But that’s another article.)

McCarthy examines the assumption Islam is a religion like Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, and Buddhism are religions. (I find most Leftist arguments fall apart when their assumptions are challenged. Start by examining their assumptions and go from there.) Fundamental Muslim religion practices Sharia law; Sharia law is not religious practice, but is a societal code or governing institution—an aspect that non-Muslim religions do not practice.

I want to take McCarthy’s argument a step further.

The purpose of religion is to guide individuals to the salvation of their souls. All religions have two aspects: an individual’s personal relationship with God, and an individual’s relationship with other individuals, i.e. one another, one’s community or society. Me and God; Me and You.

Rule ONE: One’s individual relationship with God is governed by the individual’s love and obedience to God’s will.

Rule TWO: One’s relationship with other individuals is based on mutual respect and tolerance of Rule ONE.

Hence my religious liberty can be exercised to the point I am NOT infringing on your religious liberties. This mutual respect and tolerance is practiced in all world religions, though not within all sects of all religions. It is not practiced in the Muslim sect of Fundamentalism.

Most Muslims today live the faith as reformed Muslims; not as the faith was practiced in 600 A.D. The original or fundamental way of practicing the faith required very strict adherence to rules that governed one’s personal relationship with God (Allah) as well as with society. Religion not only informed government, religion WAS the government. The societal rules that governed early Muslim society are called Sharia law.

Today’s reformed Muslims (sometimes called moderate Muslims) do not practice Sharia law. Reformed Muslims continue the peaceful practice of improving their individual relationship with God, Allah, but leave out the antiquated, socially oppressive, strict, intolerance of Sharia law. Sort of like Jews no longer stone adulterers—they are reformed.

Across the world today a significant portion of Muslims still practice their religion as Fundamentalists, i.e. adherence to Sharia law. This is the sect of the Muslim religion known today as radical Islam, Fundamentalist Muslims, or Islamic Fundamentalism. Many Middle East countries never stopped living by Sharia law, e.g. Iran, Saudi Arabia. Which is fine. But it doesn’t belong in America.

Islam is a religion, but Sharia law is not a religion. Sharia is a social order antithetical America’s Founding principles. To the practitioners of Sharia law, Sharia law supersedes natural law, rule of law, constitutional law, and tolerance of other religions. If you are a reformed Muslim you fit right in with America and our concept of religion. If you are a Fundamentalist Muslim, you don’t belong here in America. Fundamentalist Muslims cannot coexist in a constitutional republic that protects religious freedom, respect, and tolerance.

Despite what Leftists would have you believe, there is no moral equivalence between Christians and Fundamentalist Muslims. Jews and Christians today are by and large peaceful, tolerant and forgiving. Fundamentalist Muslims are intolerant, uncivilized, and immoral. We wouldn’t accept into our country Mayan immigrants who sacrificially cut the beating hearts from chests of slaves like they used to in 600 A.D. would we? Maybe the Leftists would, after all, it’s all morally the same to them, as long as it’s not Judeo/Christian.

Bar all Fundamentalist Muslim immigrants and refugees from entering the United States. Outlaw the practice of Sharia in every state, county, town, and neighborhood in America.

Reformed Muslims welcomed.

(Michelle Malkin wrote a terrific piece for Townhall.com this week supporting Trump’s proposal. Her article includes hard-to-find quotes from our Founders about immigration and assimilation. See “Immigration and Our Founding Fathers’ Values.”)

Kenton Long is a father, writer, proud patriot, and investment professional living in Scottsdale, Arizona. Bachelor’s Degrees in Political Science and Anthropology, ASU. He is creator and owner of Constitutional conservative blog ProdigalSonsOfLiberty.com.

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28 Responses to “Keep Muslims; Outlaw Sharia”

Another spot on article from Ken. Remember that we don’t say “Merry Sharia” this season.

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Makaveli Says:
December 15th, 2015 at 10:22 am

Can’t we just outlaw all religions? If you believe in sky zombies created fictitiously by superstitious desert nomads thousands of years ago then you are mentally deficient, period. If you talk to this sky zombie in your head before eating and going to sleep, you are mentally unstable and unable to reason correctly.

Religion, in all forms, is the biggest issue we face and has caused WAY more problems than it has solved. Without religion we would certainly have more peace, so can’t we just be done with this outdated way of thinking? It’s primitive, it’s all BS.

The answer is Yes. Men can outlaw all religions. That’s what Marxists like you want to do. The closest we ever came in practice was the communists USSR, attempting to follow Marx in practice.

But actually, a claim that banning religion makes us safer is bogus. The opposite is true. Atheist leaders like Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao are your empirical evidence. They slaughtered millions in the name of ideological purity. Atheism is just religion of a different kind, more dangerous because there is no moral foundation that tempers human instincts.

What would be more accurate to say is that the world would be safer if every single person on earth was a follower of Christianity. That outcome would end the warring of Muslims and Atheists.

Do I really need to come up with counter evidence to this? How many people have died in the name of religion? How many children are molested by Christian Catholics, why is that so rampant?

It’s funny you mention how you tout the negative consequences of ideological purity, then follow up with this gem:

> What would be more accurate to say is that the world would be safer if every single person on earth was a follower of Christianity.

A world populated by unthinking zombies who believe they have a connection to some monster in the sky is not a great world to live in. By the way, don’t you find your statement awfully similar to what Jihadists believe? “Well, if everyone followed Islam then the world would be a better place!”

Christians and Muslims are cut from the same exact cloth. You guys are the same, it’s just that we have secular laws here prevent you guys from going absolutely batsh*t insane and beheading people, so you just shoot up the occasional Planned Parenthood or whatever. In a Christian Utopia it would be a spitting image of what we see in the middle-east. What we see in the middle-east is how people act when religion becomes intertwined with politics, it would be no different with Christians.

Religion is a disease in the mind, a very potent disease that has caused hysteria, death, destruction, and much of the worst this world has seen for millennia, and no Christmas can good drive can make up for that. You guys are simply sick in the head. Religion gives you justification for being a sh*tty person. Not willing to truly help a friend in need because that might actually require action on your part? Well pray for them instead! Talking to yourself in your head will certainly help! Then you can feel better about yourself.

Most Christians don’t even act like Christians. Most of you feel like you can be as sh*tty of a person as you want as long as you pray for forgiveness. If I were God I wouldn’t even allow most of you into heaven, I would allow those who questioned my existence though because that is a thinking person who doesn’t blindly follow stories written thousands of years ago. I also wouldn’t send you to hell for eternity because I wouldn’t be a complete narcissist who believes that it’s just to send someone who had no say in whether or not they even wanted to exist to hell for ETERNITY because they didn’t live up to my standard in their short 0-100 year span.

Which religion? If you are talking about the Christian religion, there are very few examples of predominantly Christian nations warring on other Christian nations in the last 500 years, and almost none in the last 100 years. But yes, today many people of all faiths are dying “in the name of” the Muslim religion. You can gather whatever stats about Islamists and Atheists yourself. Suffice to say it is 10s of millions and perhaps 100s of millions of people in the last 100 years who have died at the hands of Muslims and Atheists Especially the atheists. They are very dangerous in positions of power for the reason I mentioned.

How many children are molested by Christian Catholics?

Less than atheists who have no moral reason to not, and certainly less that Muslims who still engage in child slavery in certain places and support child brides in others.

“Well, if everyone followed Islam then the world would be a better place!”

False. Lots and LOTS of examples of predominantly Muslim nations warring on other. Particularly Sunni vs Shiite. Islamic sects make war today like Christian sects made war on each other during the Schism. Christianity is the superior religion assuming that peace is the goal. Buddhism and Hinduism are superior religions as well, again assuming that peace is the goal.

The rest of your comment is a lot of nonsense, the rantings of an eternally angry person who does not have internal peace. It’s typical of atheists and very sad. I feel sorry for the anger and emptiness that you feel inside, but to address your nonsense generally.

2) Christians are happy, healthier people. Example: You are a very angry person for no reason that you’ve ever made clear. Were you molested?

3) Christianity is different than Islam. There is no Christian sect that believes in killing non believers. You could have perhaps made a case for that prior to 600 years ago, although the examples even then were very few.

4) In contrast, Peace is not the highest goal of Islamists. Conversion is the goal and martyrdom the highest sacrifice you can made for God.

5) There is no greater narcissist than the atheist. The very philosophy requires a belief than self is above nature and above other fellow human beings. Even 2500 years ago Protagoras postulated that man is the measure of all things. It’s a valid philosophy, but one swimming in emptiness like you feel because there is no purpose other that service of self.

You really should study religion with a more open mind so you can feel better informed. You seem to have a convoluted, compressed view of Christian history and a deep misunderstanding of the causes of conflicts today.

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Chet Says:
December 15th, 2015 at 1:35 pm

ADMIN: I was disappointed when I read your reply, and therein, you made no mention of the ridiculous & REALLY STUPID allegations of Makaveli when he mentioned the “…only …” differences being;
a) “unthinking zombies…”
That’s a BLATANT LIE, told by a blatant LIAR
b) the “awfully similar” following of Jihadists to Christians, that if “…everyone followed Islam then the world would be a better place ” (which would be AFTER THE MURDER of all Christians )
Again, Makaveli is a FCKU-ING LIAR
I ONLY WISH I had time to cite the rest of that liar’s bullshlt, which essentially compares and finds LITTLE difference between muslim INSANITY, and Christian belief & teaching.
Thanx for trying though…
Makaveli: Go FCKU yourself…

Fine Chet, but flaming rhetoric is best ignored because such rhetoric lacks sincerity and is meaningless. Beneath all the unexplained anger, give our Marxist commenter some small amount of credit that there are attempts to make points here or there. It’s a big mess in his head but he is trying.

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Makaveli Says:
December 15th, 2015 at 2:58 pm

I don’t know, Chet seems pretty angry to me.

No I wasn’t molested, just because I’m debating religion that doesn’t mean I’m angry, you are just projecting because you yourself are angry.

I see no evidence that atheists molest children more than Christians do, you are just saying that because you find it convenient to say such. It’s no secret that Catholic priests are in love with little boys. We’ve seen it for ages.

If you want to look at real crime statistics then look how many people are in jail who are Christian (or religious in general) vs atheist, and compare that per-capita number to the general population, you might be surprised. A VAST majority of people in prison are Christian.

You don’t find it a bit weird that you’re touting Christianity as a peaceful religion not a few weeks after some guy killed innocent people at a Planned Parenthood?

Christians wage war all the time, Bush is a Christian.

And to Chetty-Chetty-Bang-Bang over there:

> I ONLY WISH I had time to cite the rest of that liar’s bullshlt, which essentially compares and finds LITTLE difference between muslim INSANITY, and Christian belief & teaching.

You don’t have the time because you don’t have a good argument. You guys are virtually the same, it’s our secular laws that prevents you guys from going totally insane. The minute we move away from secularism is the minute we move toward barbarism.

Religion is a disease in the mind. You guys NEED religion in order to have some semblance of morals, atheists don’t need that. We can have good morals without having to talk to some other personality in our heads. I’m not even really an atheist, I don’t outright reject the idea of a higher being, I just know that it’s nothing like how the Christians preach. That’s all outdated garbage from the days when people talked to burning bushes and thought volcanoes erupting were because of an angry God.

Christians are the most egotistical people I know. How many times have you seen a Christian thanking God because it was *their* team that won the game? God picks favorite teams so he doesn’t have to handle the real problems in the world I suppose. He’s still on that 7th day of rest.

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Makaveli Says:
December 15th, 2015 at 3:02 pm

> Fine Chet, but flaming rhetoric is best ignored because such rhetoric lacks sincerity and is meaningless. Beneath all the unexplained anger, give our Marxist commenter some small amount of credit that there are attempts to make points here or there. It’s a big mess in his head but he is trying.

That might be the nicest thing you’ve ever about me, Patrick

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Phil Says:
December 15th, 2015 at 4:04 pm

Sharia Law is no threat to the US because the US is a country governed by law, founded on the rule of law. Maybe in countries where this is less clear cut it might be a factor, but not here. That’s the great thing about America, and why we can absorb people from any way of life. No one can set up some other legal system here because it would be illegal. Simple as that. So go peddle your hatred somewhere else, OK?

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Admin Says:
December 15th, 2015 at 4:59 pm

Phil, it is a clearly a threat when the people we are admitting want to live under Sharia Law. For radical Islamists, Sharia is a religious duty which is a far greater duty than any allegiance to country. Should be pretty obvious to you after San Bernadino. Yes, what they did was “illegal” but that didn’t stop them.

Makavelli you are obviously angry. Chet seems angry too, but we are talking about you now. You aren’t debating but instead are predominantly flaming. The points you tried to make have been covered, so to summarize:

Surveys show that Christians are happier, healthier, wealthier, and educationally wiser people than you. The benefits to the world of this fact are enormous, from lower public health care costs to helping old ladies across the street to MORE PEACEFUL NATIONS which seems the point you are most in error about.

Don’t get me wrong … there are some atheists who have done useful things for the world but creating Peace in their own lives, the lives of their neighbors, and in other lands is not one of them. Christians are the happier, more successful, more useful people. We can theorize why, but I think it is the understanding that we are put on earth to serve others rather than serve ourselves, and the actions we take to accomplish that calling. Look up the statistics on charitable giving for atheists and you can get a good laugh.

But that covers only the enormous benefits of a Christian society compared with a miserly atheistic society like the USSR or China under Mao. And you could make the same favorable comparison of other religions with atheism, all except for Islam. Islam gives atheism a run for your money.

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Phil Says:
December 15th, 2015 at 5:11 pm

THANK GOD, ER, ALLAH, FOR SAN BERNADINO!

Sorry. I just don’t feel very threatened by Sharia Law. I do, however, feel very threatened by Donald Trump and the Right Wing.

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Makaveli Says:
December 15th, 2015 at 5:31 pm

> there are some atheists who have done useful things for the world but creating Peace in their own lives, the lives of their neighbors, and in other lands is not one of them.

Tell that to Bill Gates who has done more good in this world than just about anybody else, and he’s an atheist.

Look, I just can’t be Christian, it’s just not possible. In my mind it’s all rubbish. It’s like trying to force someone to believe in the tooth fairy. You can talk and talk and talk and come up with all these stupid conjectures and biased statistics or whatever, but you won’t convince them because it’s just too outlandish.

If this is enough to send me to hell then so be it. At least I’ll have more dignity down there, rather than being on my knees bowing to some narcissist for eternity.

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Best Thinking Thinker Says:
December 15th, 2015 at 6:38 pm

“Which religion? If you are talking about the Christian religion, there are very few examples of predominantly Christian nations warring on other Christian nations in the last 500 years, and almost none in the last 100 years.”

Wow. I recall reading somewhere about a few wars:

World War II
Spanish Civil War
World War I
Spanish-American War
Franco-Prussian War
American Civil War
Mexican War
Texas war of independence
Napoleonic Wars
American Revolutionary War
Seven Years War
Thirty Years War
Pirates of the Carribean
Etc etc etc

Christians write hymns with titles like “Battle Hymn of the Republic” and lyrics like “Onward Christian soldiers, marching off to war”

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Best Thinking Thinker Says:
December 15th, 2015 at 6:44 pm

How do you “outlaw Shariah law”? You don’t make sense.

We have such laws as are enacted by the legislature. There is no Shariah law that needs to be “outlawed” since Shariah has never been enacted.

Makaveli, I get it I get it. “Man is the measure of all things,” and it can be rather humbling for prideful people to see otherwise. You are not cut out for Christianity. But there are exceptional alternatives to Christianity for finding peace. Buddhism has a lot of appeal for hip people who see Christianity as a sell out to their beliefs. You will never meet an ornery, whining, angry, malcontented Buddhist. We are all trees, and they are all tree huggers. Remember that all religions including atheism are merely philosophies to discover meaning in the world. Religions which also achieve peace are superior at discovering meaning.

Phil, I don’t feel threatened by Sharia Law either. I worry as much about a lightening strike as I do a terrorist killing you. A hundred years from now people may be angry that we did not care enough. But it’s apples and oranges because you can do something about letting terrorists into the country, while you can’t do much about lightening. I don’t feel threatened by Donald Trump either. Why the apoplectic concern?

BuTThead, yes indeed. As I said, there are examples but relatively few examples among the thousands and thousands of conflicts in the last 500 years have been Christian nations warring upon each other. Thank you for confirming my point by way of example. The more interesting question posited by our Marxist friend was “how many wars in the name of religion” which he meant as a rhetorical question as if it were a lot. The answer is many done in the name of religion during the last 500 years, but none at all done “in the name of Christianity”. That’s another very interesting point to ponder.

Lastly, BuTThead, there is no Shariah Law because Shariah is not a word in the English language. It’s Sharia Law. The only way to ban Sharia Law in the country is to ban believers in Sharia Law from entering the country. That is simple because if you believe in Sharia Law, that’s the law that governs your life more than any other set of laws. Surely even a simpleton like you might recognize that there are competing sets of “laws” in a culture.

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Best Thinking Thinker Says:
December 15th, 2015 at 11:40 pm

How on earth did my list of a few wars confirm that there were only a few wars? You struggle with logic.

I could have mentioned the Philippines Insurection, the Bolivian civil war, the War of the Spanish Succession, the War of the Austrian Succession, the Anglo Dutch War, the Franco Dutch War, the Italian Wars (lots of them!), the Serbo Bulgarian War

Etc etc etc (and that is hardly trying)

It is sort of funny that you look at the Nspolesnic wars, the American Civil War, WWI and WWII and see it as a record of peacefulness. Tens of millions killed!

“The answer is many done in the name of religion during the last 500 years, but none at all done “in the name of Christianity”.

I now require that people who want to be argumentative must be more knowledgeable about history. As a historian, it’s just super annoying to listen to Stupid over and over.

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AndyZ Says:
December 16th, 2015 at 11:43 am

BTT,

You forgot about the English Civil War and those darn Puritans! What about the Huguenots in France? How about those Dukabors from Russia? My late father, who was born and raised in Saskatchewan, was always going on about those crazy Dukabors. There were actually some bombings done in Canada by them back in the 1920s and such. The Czar tossed them out of Russia by the end of the 19th Century for stirring up trouble with the Orthodox Church.

Of course, we have plenty of examples across the world of non-Christian religious wars. But none of these are all that relevant today. Radical Islam is! Sharia Law is a theological, socio-politico-economic system rooted in Islam. Islam was a militaristic theology that swept through much of the Old World by force of arms. Christianity did not begin using force until the Roman Empire adopted it.

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AndyZ Says:
December 16th, 2015 at 11:45 am

BTW, BTT,

The Napoleonic Wars, ACW, WWI, WW2 had little to do with religion. Unless, of course, you want to raise the matters of Shintoism and Vrilism.

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buzzbee Says:
December 16th, 2015 at 10:44 pm

Wow, he makes a good point. BTT is banned for, ummm.. what was that again, but Chet can contribute nothing but an obscenity ridden rant and that is just fine.