Comments on: Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown thinks Chief Wahoo should gohttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/23/ohio-senator-sherrod-brown-thinks-chief-wahoo-should-go/
Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball.Sun, 02 Aug 2015 21:14:36 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: pelumaadhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/23/ohio-senator-sherrod-brown-thinks-chief-wahoo-should-go/comment-page-2/#comment-712402
Wed, 28 May 2014 17:06:18 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-712402truthstings……no one is challenging anyone’s right to be an idiot.
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Wed, 28 May 2014 17:04:51 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-712399Florida State has an agreement with the Seminoles on the use of their name. Straight up racial slurs like “Redskins” or “Chief Wahoo” are totally unacceptable. “Braves” and “Indians” are debatable but definitely in bad taste. Fifty years from now when the country is a lot less white there will be no arguments like this.
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Mon, 26 May 2014 04:54:57 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-711046Never confuse an issue by bringing up facts.
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Mon, 26 May 2014 04:50:41 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-711045Reflex–When the facts conflict with the legend, the media (especially the revisionist Left) will print the legend.
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Mon, 26 May 2014 04:47:52 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-711044The funniest thing I saw during all those years was Jane Fonda (then married to Braves owner Ted Turner) doing the Tomahawk Chop, then trying to rationalize it during the inevitable in-game interviews.
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Sun, 25 May 2014 05:01:38 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-710656The Team owners have a right to name their teams whatever they want. You and the senators are way overdoing it here. If someone wanted to name a Team the Minnesota Honky’s Or the St. Paul Crackers I would be PROUD!!! I think the Character looks happy and there is no reason to be ashamed of the Red Skin. Shouldn’t we be Celebrating our diversity!?! People Can’t help what color skin they are born with and we should treat all colors equally. That being said people choose to be Gay and live a Sinful Life Style. I do not believe that we have to like everyone’s behavior! Love the Sinner, Hate the Sin. I am sick of everyone being forced to Tolerate Everything! IT SUCKS! In America we have Freedom of Speech until the Government Tries to take it away from us! More People need to speak what is really on their minds and quit conforming! it is a sign of Weakness! Our Society is Decomposing by the Second and our moral compass is the worst that it has ever been! Much worse than even 5-10 years ago. There is only one Pro Sports Team that needs to change it’s name and that is the New Jersey (DEV_LS) IT’S AMAZING THAT HARDLY ANYONE IS COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT!!!!!!! Repent Sinners Before it is too late!!!!!…………….. .
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Sat, 24 May 2014 14:21:45 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-710387The Most Popular Artwork ever from Ohio is the ‘People Not Mascots’ Logo designed by our own David Jakupca……created 25 years ago ans still in the daily news somewhere worldwide.

The ‘People Not Mascots’ Logo is meant to be a Native American protest caricature of the racists Chief Wahoo logo of the Cleveland Indians Baseball team. It was originally painted by David Jakupca at the historic ARK in Berea for the Committee of 500 Years of Dignity and Resistance with the Lake Erie native American Council incorporating elements of the Theory of Iceality on Environmental Arts, it has drawn criticism from some sportswriters, fans and local businessmen, but gained immediate acceptance among humanitarian, religious groups and Native Americans. It gained international popular attention when it was it exhibited by ICEA at the 1993 UN World Conference on Human Rights held in Vienna, Austria and has become one of the most recognized anti-racists logo’s in existence. It also caused repercussions for the groups connected with using the logo in protest demonstrations and this has been documented in the INTERNECINE MATRIX..
Google Reference Links:
INTERNECINE MATRIX

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Sat, 24 May 2014 11:36:18 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-710366This is ridiculous. Save Chief Wahoo!
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Sat, 24 May 2014 03:37:59 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-710306COPO – I’m not usually on this side of the discussion, but the smallpox blankets legend has no historical basis. The colonies did plenty of horrible things to attempt to extinguish the natives, but germ warfare was not one of them. I believed that one too until I actually looked it up one day.

Its important to keep the facts straight so that those who do not want to face true history cannot point to exaggerations on the other side and claim equivalence.

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Sat, 24 May 2014 00:31:34 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-71025018th–
You are right; that money is pooled. My implied point was that the Redskins’ strong merchandise sales is making money for the NFL’s owners, and thus there is little to no pressure on Dan Snyder from his brethren to change. Until that changes, I doubt the team name changes.
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Sat, 24 May 2014 00:21:30 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-710245What?
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Sat, 24 May 2014 00:05:22 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-710244Why would any non-arachnophobe resist this?
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Fri, 23 May 2014 23:52:48 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-710242Debatable if he was the worst, but he was almost certainly the drunkest.
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Fri, 23 May 2014 23:43:22 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-710241that’s a great point
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Fri, 23 May 2014 23:42:26 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-710240You can’t claim sarcasm when your second post, a whopping 2min after your first posts more inane sh!t.
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Fri, 23 May 2014 23:41:41 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-710239

I’m sorry, I just don’t get the connection between the Chief Wahoo logo and genocide

Chief Wahoo is a caricature, aka a symbol used to mock a group of people that have almost been systematically eliminated by the gov’t of this country. Get it now?

And the point, perhaps inelegantly stated, is that kids walking out of college into today’s world seem to have been taught they have the right to be perpetually offended

[citation needed]

Also, maybe kids today actually ARE offended by things that older generations don’t find offense with. But maybe that’s not their fault? These are the kids that are strongly (think last count was north of 80%) in favor of gay marriage. Should they not be offended that older generations find nothing wrong with bigotry? Maybe these kids are also offended that everyone seems to blame them for being “lazy” even though the quality of life has long passed them by? Maybe they are offended because they see racist symbols like Chief Wahoo and the R*dskins and wonder why others think nothing of them?

Maybe they are on to something…

nd are entitled to redress for even small perceived offenses

Whole big [citation needed] here

We’d all be better served by people learning how to overlook all the slights and offenses of others and live in the world happily with people who don’t share your worldview.

When has looking the other way ever been an effective way of social change?

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Fri, 23 May 2014 23:34:46 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-710238They are always Senators until they either decide to not run for reelection, or they aren’t voted in. Your comment still doesn’t make sense.
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Fri, 23 May 2014 23:14:01 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-710231They could stop it by (a) not playing the background music and (b) playing different music (“Charge!” comes to mind) when the situation would otherwise call for it. It would go away in three months.
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Fri, 23 May 2014 22:55:01 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-710223Russell Means thinks you don’t know what you’re talking about.
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Fri, 23 May 2014 22:54:09 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-710222The American Indian Movement strongly disagrees with you.
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Fri, 23 May 2014 22:49:54 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-710220Chief Wahoo always has been mind-boggling. Hard to see that image and think that basic respect of American Indians as humans was something the “artist” could even conceive of.
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Fri, 23 May 2014 22:49:42 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-710219So when Indians refer to themselves as ‘skins’, what’s your answer then?

Or is it equivalent to blacks using the ‘N-word’?

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Fri, 23 May 2014 22:43:26 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-710216If he’s in a state that’s known for producing mustard, that becomes official policy.

They were interviewed as Senators. Any comments they make are as Senators. Not private citizens.

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Fri, 23 May 2014 22:02:23 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-710197Sorry, your sarcasm meter must be broken. I clearly came to the wrong party today.
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Fri, 23 May 2014 22:01:00 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-710196I’m sorry, I just don’t get the connection between the Chief Wahoo logo and genocide. And the point, perhaps inelegantly stated, is that kids walking out of college into today’s world seem to have been taught they have the right to be perpetually offended and are entitled to redress for even small perceived offenses such as what someone unrelated to you or your life says or thinks in the privacy of his own home. We’d all be better served by people learning how to overlook all the slights and offenses of others and live in the world happily with people who don’t share your worldview.

The Cleveland Indians will drop the logo, and the Washington Redskins will drop the name when their fans hurt their wallet, not simply because the politically correct crowd has decided to take them on for reasons that seem less genuine than they’d want you to think.

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Fri, 23 May 2014 21:27:42 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-710182Happytwin please don’t use words like dumpster fire. I am from Morgantown, that’s like yelling bomb in an airport.
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Fri, 23 May 2014 21:26:05 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-710180ill smoke that peace pipe with you citation.
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Fri, 23 May 2014 21:15:10 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-710169http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L9VMY8X9rU8
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Fri, 23 May 2014 21:13:15 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-710166Actually I am happy. Nothing better than a dumpster fire thread on a Friday afternoon, although I have to admit that the posts here so far are a lot better than what usually shows up in the wahoo threads
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Fri, 23 May 2014 21:00:54 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=522673#comment-710158Craig doesn’t get up on a soap box. He gets up on a soap skyscraper.
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