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Comment by catspats31

Just like the way the members of Cenarion Circle go to Outland as Cenarion Expedition in the Burning Crusade, the Argent Dawn enters Northrend as the Argent Crusade.

Comment by Hamad2

does any1 knows how to grind their Rep ?instead of doing Q's

Comment by Thunghammer

the Argent Crusade isnt the Argent Dawn, they are the forces of the silver hand and the argent dawn

Comment by isendims

u would think it was a mix of the scarlet crusade and argent dawn, like at lights hope chapel

Comment by brenthebli

It would be nice if there was a Timbermaw faction in either.

In Outland, they might combat the legion to make sure they dont corrupt any more races

In Northrend, they search for non-corrupted Furbolg tribes

would be nice.

Comment by Krucifire

the Argent Crusade Is the combination of the reformed Knights of the Silver Hand, and the Argent Dawn.

Argent meaning "Silver" In Latin, would make them the "Silver Crusade", or "Knights of the Silver Crusade".

Comment by yaytoast

will rep from the argent dawn transfer to argent crusade when wotlk comes out?

Comment by Replica

You can actually link the items in chat as of 3.0.2 and you dont need the Wotlk expansion, pretty nice to get comments going on trade channel! =)

Comment by Skipah

Rep. items are purchased from Veteran Crusader Aliocha Segard(quartermaster) at 87.75 in Icecrown.

Comment by anakha

After some quests starting at Argent Vanguard, you can actually reclaim Crusader's Pinnacle and it becomes a base of Argent Crusade and Tirion Fordring comes to this base too.

Comment by bingoli1986

This faction is totally useless for all casters. Only one reputation reward for us? You must be kidding.

Comment by Girmi007

Where did you learn to count?I can see 3 of 'em, 4 if you add the healing item

Comment by fatherdougal

This faction is totally useless for all casters. Only one reputation reward for us? You must be kidding.

Then rejoice, my dear caster, that there is one less faction you will need to slowly and painfully grind to exalted. And thank Blizzard for spicing the game up with some variety and options, rather than making every faction equally rewarding for each and every class/profession. zzzzz

Comment by Tro44

I am surprised that the Paladins didn't get a Pally Trainer here, (Similar to how Mages get a class trainer in Dalaran), since the Silver Hand was suppose to join up with the Argent Dawn.

Comment by highwind123

The Argent Crusade is Blizzards way of saying "you need to grind reputation by the same people u already did at 60 because as long as you are "distracted" (and still paying) with stupid grinding dutys you hopefully oversee the major balancing-, gameplay- and design- issues which are part of the game since vanilla release and which we are to stupid and/or lazy to solve".

Comment by edbjorgu

Some people are TOO stupid to use the word TOO in it's correct form. Also, the period goes inside the quotation marks.

Comment by moenbase

And before we screw up the reputation part for this faction.How will we get reputation, and what's the most fastest way to do so?

Comment by Mintasman

Instead of complaining as many other all I would ask is where is the very 1st place and at what lvl can a horde player start getting this rep. And is questing the only way, are there a seperate bunch of mobs that give Argent Crusade rep like the Undead did for the Argent Dawn.

Getting most any rep to at least Honored is always a good idea you never know when it may come in handy like when Nax first came about during the 1st release of the game. No one wanted it because there was no loot for them then suddenly they needed it to get attuned for the instance. So why not just get it when you can get XP ect on you journey to lvl 80

Comment by Oathwood

The quatermaster can be a little tricky to see but he is located in the main camp right under a tent so just flip your camera down a little and he will reveal himself ;)

Comment by steak

So for the only dailies that I can find for the Argent Crusade are:

Slaves to Saronite - from Brother Keltan on the airship in Icecrown

Troll Patrol - from the guy in the middle of the Argent Stand in Zul'Drak which is composed of doing 4 smaller quests for NPCs in the area. If you manage to do them all quick enough and complete it (less than 20mins I think), you get a bonus daily reward of 350 rep or so and a bag of junk that vendors for a nice amount.

So far that seems to be all that I can find, if anyone else has found others, please let me know.

Comment by MajorArmstrong

Best way to get rep with them is to take the quest Troll Patrol then only do Captain Rupert's Task becuse it gives most rep 250, then delete the quest and do it again. You can do it 25 times and get 6250 rep per day

Comment by raven0445

I would just like to add that I JUST did Rupert's Task over 20 times, and got 250 rep per turn in. I grinded out a lot of rep in a very short amount of time, amen to whoever posted that.

I'm not sure who was only getting 75 rep per turn in, maybe that's how it'll be after I hit revered when the dailies reset in 10 minutes.

Comment by rhamnusia

The Troll Patrol quest sub tasks award different rep amounts depending on the day / task. I've had them (Ruperts included) give 250 or 75. I've even had one sub-task give only 25 rep before (can't remember which giver / quest).

I know many may disagree, but I feel 'take the quest Troll Patrol then only do Captain Rupert's Task because it gives most rep 250, then delete the quest and do it again' is an exploit. It's not that hard with championing to get revered with the four factions that have tabards.

Comment by Thurgood

Gaining reputation in this manner is, by definition, an exploit. Be wary if you use this method. In the past, Blizzard has removed Arena gear, arena points, honor, etc that was received by exploiting.

I'm certain it would be just as easy to reset your reputation and remove purchased items.

Comment by Thurgood

Gaining reputation in this manner is, by definition, an exploit. Be wary if you use this method. In the past, Blizzard has removed Arena gear, arena points, honor, etc that was received by exploiting.

I'm certain it would be just as easy to reset your reputation and remove purchased items.

Comment by Deak

If you are one of those that do alot of heroics, then wearing the Argent Crusade tabard while you do it is by far the fastest reputation grinding. I got 2k into honored - exalted in two days (I had off course done a few quests with them while leveling.)

Comment by dklHawks

The Knights of the Silver Hand was a Paladin faction.

The Argent Dawn faction on the other hand was simply a lawful and good organization focused on protecting Azeroth from the Burning Legion and the Scourge.

The Argent Dawn contained many and not only a single specific class.

According to Lore the Knights of the Silver Hand was destroyed by the corrupted Prince Arthas in the Third War.

Following the death of his son Taelan, Tirion Fordring committed himself to re-founding the Knights of the Silver Hand.He now leads the Argent Crusade.

Tirion Fordring was one of the first five Knights of the Silver Hand, selected by Archbishop Alonsus Faol and was one of the heroes of the Second War.

This might also explain why not many paladins are left or any strong emphasis is made on paladins as the original Knights of the Silver Hand was destroyed.

Kind Regards,HawksDefias Brotherhood

(Edit: Removed reference to Duncan Senturus as leader of KoSH as it was incorrect information, Thank you Elfstone for clarifying this)

Comment by bebbe

There are four factions in WOTLK that you can gain rep with from wearing their tabard (purchased from the faction's quartermaster at friendly reputation) while doing level 80 instances. All the four factions have a few epic rewards, a bunch of blue ones, and two types of head enchants - one with resistance/stamina and one with stats (listed below). These four factions are as follows:

Comment by draymon

if Farming Argent Crusade rep is your goal then a trick is this

1. Get the Patrol quest2. find out if Captain Rupert has the 250 rep reward quest: Troll Patrol: Intestinal Fortitude3. If he does complete his quest. hand it in then drop the main patrol quest and go pick it up again4. Repeat.

Comment by MAbans

Comment by Arzanot

@Draymon.

There's more information to the Patroll Ripoff with Intensional Fortitude.

The Blizzard daily tracker is faulty in this matter.

It tracks every time a specific daily is completed and prohibits it from being completed again, however these dailies are (sub)dailies so to speak, that are wiped of completion if u cancel the maindaily which is the Troll Patrol. This means it can only track and count the quest once.

I just confirmed this by doing cooking daily, heroic daily and the Captain Ruperts one that rewards 250 rep x 8 leaving me at 10/25 dailies done, after restarting the game i was back at 3/25 done cause it only counted it once...

This means u can hit exalted on a day at ease just doing this if the quest is up. This surely cant be intentional.

Comment by MAbans

I'm not getting any rep for the Ruperts at all now.

Comment by Lahfielxi

They appear to have removed the rep gain off all the sub-quests.

Comment by LukosX

Yup, They sure did. Epic Fail Blizz. Now you get about 30g and 250 rep for doing, and 50g and 600 rep if you hit the timer. At the cost of burning up 5 dailies and 6 with the timer. GG

Comment by reject37

Dont know how u figured that up but your way off...Once you hit Rev it's another 21000 to reach exalted..not 21000 from neutral.So please dont try to do any more math.

Comment by snub999

The glitch was obviously an exploit. Since the alchemy one is so stupid, I guess I'll just get a PvE chest armor. It'll take less time to get one doing heroics that it would take to do these dailies.

Am I the only person who is in favor of more rep grinds that involve rep per mob (2-10 rep) and/or maybe an item you can turn in for rep when you get stacks of 10 or something. The prime example of this so far has been kurenai/maghar in Nagrand.

Comment by skyping

You are incorrect in labeling this an "exploit" it is By Design. Read the patch notes. Moderating down for useless info.

Comment by Underlock

that would make illidan the warlock's faction i guess?

Comment by argonak

we don't go to raveholdt anymore.

Comment by Enkahn

I support this message.

Comment by Kathucka

This is one of five different factions which which you can gain reputation by killing things in level 80 dungeons. They all have solo daily quests that award substantial reputation...except for the Kirin Tor, which has only a small amount of solo repeatable reputation, and only if you have the trade skill.

As such, if you want reputation with the Kirin Tor, you should always wear its tabard when in a level 80 dungeon. The other reps...you can get without needing to put together a group.

Comment by DeathByMonkey

Not quite. Regardless of if you have done any quests there, it is a base for the Crusade, FP, rep vendor and all. The only difference the quests make is how the battle outside the walls is progressing.

Comment by DeathByMonkey

For those like me (Death Knights running Heroics a lot), past revered this rep is totally useless for us (since hopefully you're NOT a tailor) except for the achievement to get exalted with them and AD. So unless, like me, you're already max with everywhere else, don't bother past revered. Even as a tank I'd rather get dps boots from the Ebon Blade then a half of a title.

Comment by orloxgr

As a pve warlock - tailor I find exalted rep with this fraction a must

Signet of Hopeful Light cheap epic pve ring. No need to do countless runs to both CoS and UK for an epic pre raid ring

I started as honored before I set foot to icecrown probably from other quest. To get to "Exalted" from the begginings of "Honored" is like 12-15 heroic runs. Maybe less.

Comment by sl0shk0sh

Also it's worth noting that since patch 3.08 his "sub-quest" in Pa'troll no longer gives you daily rep. I just ran Pa'troll yesterday and received rep only on the final turn in (and again for doing it in under 20 minutes). So even if you're willing to risk the wrath of Blizzard, it looks like it's no longer possible.

Comment by nisath

is there a npc you can kill that will give you argent crusade rep if so can you tell me please

Comment by Guarden

It's a shame Blizzard did :-/

Comment by Guarden

It's a shame Blizzard did :-/

Comment by Jinton

Reputation level after all non-repeatable Alliance quests are done for The Argent Crusade:

Dailies 600-1100 Edit: The Argent Tournament dailies (at champion level) give Argent crusade rep at a total of 1000 rep/dayEdit: @Jackobs: It's not so much a matter of forgetting as it is making the post before 3.1 and not bothering to update it ;P

Comment by Dalylah

Some of the Argent Tournament quests in Icecrown give Argent Crusade rep as well. I noticed that when I was turning in the Black Knight quest line as well as some of the champion's dailies.

Comment by Dorque

As of Patch 3.1, another 1100 daily rep is available for the Argent Crusade, at the Argent Tournament. All of the following quests become available after becoming a champion for a faction (gold reward assumes you are level 80.)

All of these quests can be done together with their Valiant-series counterparts, so if you are trying to champion with more than one faction, you can do them all together to save time.

Finally, it's worth noting that with the Champion's Purses, the speed with which these daily quests can be completed and the ease of combining them with other daily quests in Icecrown, and the BoE pets that can be purchased with Champion's Seals, these are far and away the best gold-earning dailies in the game, possibly the best gold quests period.

Comment by undeadmoo

It's worth noting that with the addition of the Argent Tournament questing hub, the Champion-level quests (4 of them) each reward 250 reputation with the Argent Crusade, and also 250 reputation with Sunreavers (and I assume their Alliance counterpart, for Allies).

There's also a daily to give 10g for 100 Argent Crusade rep.

This means that, if you handle Troll Patrol in time for the "Congratulations" boost, you can gain:250 from Slaves to Saronite (Icecrown daily)350 from Troll Patrol (Zul'Drak daily)500 from Congratulations (finish Troll Patrol in under 20 minutes)1000 from the four Argent Tournament dailies whose names escape me100 from the cash-for-rep daily at the Tournament.

2200 rep a day.

Comment by undeadmoo

It's worth noting that, with the release of 3.1 and the Argent Tournament daily quest hub, there are five more dailies that reward rep with the Argent Crusade.

Comment by kasuturo

Comment by SockPuppet

Since the alchemy one is so stupid

I went nuts trying to get the alchemy quest done without beating my head against the desk, on my first run to 80. I even drew a map of the inventory at one point.

So imagine my relief when I went there on my second toon, map lost under discarded Cheetos packages or something, and discovered that the latest version of Carbonite takes all the frustration out of it. Since Blizzard cracked down on pay-addons, Carbonite made their full version available for free. When the Apothecary tells you what you need, a pointer pops up along with text telling you which shelf and position the nearest one is on ("Rack 3, Shelf 2, position 2" or somesuch). Got the Congratulations! reward on the first try after months of never touching this quest.

Edited to add: you won't see the addon pointer if you are tracking any quest, including Troll Patrol. Deselect it before starting.

Comment by temu92

With the new Argent Tournament event you are eventually going to hit exalted even you wouldn't have especially tried to get it.

After reaching champion rank, you can complete champion dailies for 1000 rep(1100 for humans) and in addition if you want donate 10 gold for extra 100 rep (110 for humans). That sums up 1100 rep a day (1210 for humans) and if you also complete Pa'troll daily in Zul'Drak it is 350 rep more (385 for humans). Then you're gaining already 1450 rep per day (1595 for humans). Remeber also there is Slaves to Saronite daily quest in Alliance's and Horde's flying machine/zeppelin flying over Icecrown. It'll give you extra 250 rep per day summing already to 1700 rep per day (1870 for humans). I may have missed some quests and if you think so, feel free to point those out.

And if you have done even a little amount of quests in Icecrown and Zul'Drak you probably don't even stand at 0/12000 honored anymore, but already near revered or already little under half way till exalted.

So it is still quite a grind but when you're aiming for getting Argent Hippogryph or other mounts you'll get your reputation raised unnoticed. If you're doing heroic dungeon dailies, remember to put your Argent Crusade tabard on. It'll speed up reputation gains pretty nicely as most instances on heroic mode usually give 2000 to 3000 rep and over per run.

Unfortunately I think Death Knights are guided to get their champion dailies from Knights of the Ebon Blade faction npc which of course won't give you reputation with the Argent Crusade but Ebon Blade. However, what Death Knight would even do with tailoring? :D

Comment by Ishawak

The Argent Dawn faction page also lists argent meaning silver, and that page was ported from WoWWiki. Eh, someone messed up somewhere along the line.

Comment by Rasmushansen

Actually Ag is gold not silver

Comment by Volcan

Actually, there's nothing really English on English since the "base" celtic / german language has been almost completely replaced by roman words.

Comment by IbFeeshin

Should sell holy hand grenade pattern to engineers, rly, can't say it would be the first monty python referance.

Comment by CharlzO

Actually, I believe you might be. Mindlessly grinding mobs for rep, gets really old after a while for a lot of people. With the tabard system, at least you can increase your reputation with factions while doing dungeons for gear that you're already going to be running, rather than doing them separate. I do think that maybe the amount of rep per kill in the dungeons might be a tad on the high side. Even as a non-human, it's pretty easy to get to exalted in a short amount of time with a tabard. I think to get to exalted, there should be a LITTLE more effort. Maybe a harder, final questline to push that last point to exalted with each or something.

Comment by JJR512

I'd like to mention another way to earn reputation with the Argent Crusade, which, unless I missed it, hasn't been mentioned yet.

It's the Timear Foresees series of daily quests available in the Violet Hold area of Dalaran.

The reward for turning in the quest is the choice of a Commendation Badge worth 250 reputation points for either Argent Crusade, Kirin Tor, Ebon Blade, Wyrmrest Accord, and, as of 3.2.2, Sons of Hodir. You also receive 19g86s and one Emblem of Conquest.

Note that although the quest only requires you to do the particular instance on normal mode, you can also do it on heroic and still complete the quest. So, do it on heroic mode and have your Argent Crusade tabard equipped for maximum reputation!

Comment by vordhr

Actually the English for silver is silver, coming from Old English seolfor. It was the Celtic tongues of England that used argent. Of all the Indo-European tongues only the Germanic branch used the root that became silver.

Comment by m4Rduk

Argent Crusade in my opinion means "Contract Killers"!

Comment by palading111

its once again the age of paladins!

Comment by Kludge

I'm neutral with the Argent Crusade and no quests are available to me at The Argent Vanguard. Do you have to be friendly with them to get quests there? I don't recall having to do that before.

Comment by Aylana

Do you start out at Neutral or Friendly without doing any quests?

Comment by coedyfaye

i have a low level toon thathas completed all quests in WPL and EPLis there any way to get from 8k honored to exalted without lvl'n high enough to spend jp on commendations?

Comment by remid0d0s0

If you have honor, you can exchange it for JPs (375 honor -> 250 JP) so you can also do this on low level toons if you want to for some reason, or on toons that you are only doing PvP with.

Comment by Emalethx2

I found a grindable! Ok, I know for some it's not that exciting, but if you're a complete failure (as I am) when it comes to a horse and lance, this is for you.... Crypt Slayers, the huge spider-like creatures in the Eastern Plaguelands, 15 rep for every two killed. (8 for the first, 7 for the second).

I don't know if there are prerequisites for these to come through, however they are giving me this rep whilst I have the Argent Crusade tabard on, am 85 and 17.7k into the 21k of Revered.

Comment by Felzbek

Basicly if you want to know who gives rep to this faction accept quests that have Argent Crusade title or they wear the tabard. While questing in Plaguelands and Northrend not every quest will give AC rep so I only talked to the ones with the titles and tabard and I am 1.5k to exaulted by the time I ran out of quests Just have to do the few dailies they offer in Icecrown and Zul'Drak and I'll get my title by tomorrow :D

Comment by Tiiaan

done.

Comment by FatCharlie

I find it very amusing that, as far as I can see, no one have mentioned the fact that you can PURCHASE Reputation with Argent Crusade, and ALL of the other WoTLK factions from a vendor at the Argent Tournament base in Icecrown. You can purchase a Argent Crusade Commendation Badge that gives you 520 reputation for just 16 JP.

yes, 16JP.

Perhaps it's just me that hadn't noticed this before, but I'll make a post anyway, if someone, like me are trying for the reputation and are gettin annoyed with the quest farming.I did feel a little cheated since I've been farming the reputation with all factions quest by quest, but in the end pretty happy to be able to get the reputation without having to do dailies(which I HATE.)

Comment by Lomiodien

6.5 reputation can also be gained from Skeletal Sorcerer in the phase during the quest Ambushed!. The Skeletal Flayers won't give any rep, but I recommend killing them too as the crypt will refill faster. I typically start at the top of the crypt, kill everything inside until they stop spawning, then kill everything outside so the crypt will refill, rinse and repeat.

As a (fairly slow) lv 44 hunter, I can get about 200 rep (no guild perks etc) every 10 minutes from this area.

Comment by Eekwibble

Min/maxing (and assuming player level is 85 or higher and is exalted with all necessary factions including The Argent Crusade), the fastest time in which you can do this from the day you begin farming Seals is ~113 days.

Days 1 - 6; you can only get 3 Seals per day from running Trial of the Champion. You should do this every day for the duration of the grind.

Day 7; do the last of the 5 days of Valiant dailies for your home city and complete the Black Knight quest chain for 3 Seals. When the Black Knight is dead you will open up 4 more dailies that earn you a total of 9 Seals per day, 10 Seals if you're lucky as the purses sometimes contain 2 Seals (so possibly even 11, 12 or 13 if your rng is totally boss). Note: Death Knight's have a separate hub for these same quests, situated just west of the Trial of the Champion entrance

Days 8 - 26; do all the other factions' Valiant dailies. At around day 17 you will hit exalted with The Sunreavers/The Silver Covenant, opening up their 3 Seal-rewarding dailies.

Day 27, do the last day of Valiant dailies you will ever have to do and unlock the remaining 2 Seal-rewarding dailies.

You have now unlocked Dame Evniki Kapsalis, the Crusader's Quartermaster, and will be able to earn 17 Seals per day, perhaps more as I've said, if you're lucky with the purses.

So, up to day 27 your total, min/maxed, will be ~300 Seals, meaning you need another ~1465. This will take ~86 more days giving a grand total of ~113 days grinding.

This is just a min/max account of what is possible, obviously there are other avenues to take - Justice Points and PvP Honor Points items (or pieces you feel you don't really need) - just bear in mind that you want to upgrade all these items to lvl85 so you will need a pretty hefty amount of JP so it's best to have them capped on day 27 to get a good start.

You can buy 4 or 5 of the 60-Seal items as soon as you unlock the QM and start upgrading them straight away, clearing your JP so you can start earning them again for the next purchase/s.

Also, bear in mind that you may not want every item sold here, which could reduce the actual number of Seals and JP you require by a considerable margin.For example; Devout Aurastone Hammer is only best for Paladins leveling as holy (that would need to use the mail spellpower chest, shoulders, etc, so not an ideal choice of leveling spec), or Shamans leveling as restoration or elemental. All other spellcasting classes fare better with Dignified Headmaster's Charge, even with Musty Tome of the Lost taken into consideration; Repurposed Lava Dredger has the same stats and dps as Burnished Warden Staff but has a faster attack speed. It's such a minor difference that you will only need to buy one or the other, which one you choose just depends on the classes/specs you intend to level (you may not need either if you're going to level as a caster), and Venerable Dal'Rend's Sacred Charge is no longer useful to anyone other than combat Rogues.There are other things, however, that you may wish to get two of, such as bothtrinkets, since no heirlooms are unique-equipped (other than Dread Pirate Ring which is no longer obtainable), or two Balanced Heartseeker's for your Rogue (put a couple of Enchant Weapon - Agility's on those and you'll glide through mobs like a hot knife wielding Rogue through butter all the way to lvl60), or two Bloodied Arcanite Reaper's for your lvl38+ Titan's Gripping fury Warrior (with a couple of Crusader's for very similar but much more overpowered 'hot axe through butter' results), which may seem like overkill to some but what's wrong with a bit of overkill when it means you can tank dungeons in dps spec?

Overall I would say 1500 Seals should get you more than enough to fill your needs.

1 x set of chest and shoulders of each armour type; cloth, leather, mail and plate.

That's a total of ~97 days.Add 120 Seals - ~7 days - for each type of leather, mail or plate armour of which you want to get both melee or caster dps, tank or dps, or healer or dps, sets

Comment by Adeleid

I found that a great way to grind rep to Exalted with Argent Crusade was to wear their tabard and queue for the four listed specific dungeons while finishing up the quest chain and during Argent Tournament dailies (prior to Lvl 80).

Comment by Isapheen

I just farmed exalted with the argent crusade in the past few days. And I would like to mention this for others. After completing (Or before, whatever.) the quests in Icecrown, Zul'drak and Northrend as a whole. (Don't forget those dailies!) There is also a bunch of rep now scattered about the quests in Eastern plaguelands and also a few in Western Plaguelands. This allowed me to quickly get all the rep I needed without the tourney or doing heroics. =) Happy farming!

Comment by Bryynne

The Commendations have been removed,So you will have to grind Dungeons with the Tabard

Argent Crusade

Argent Crusade is an organization created from the union of the Argent Dawn and the Knights of the Silver Hand. The initial Crusade was formed shortly after the Battle for Light's Hope Chapel, as played out during the death knight quest The Light of Dawn, in which Highlord Tirion Fordring — leader of the reformed Silver Hand — reclaimed (and evidently purified) the Ashbringer during a confrontation with the Lich King.Tirion Fordring handpicked every member in the Argent Crusade to avoid Cult of the Damned infiltration and Lich King spies.