It seems that the Department of Justice wasnt satisfied with merely raiding the law abiding factories of Gibson Guitar with armed agents, shutting down their operation costing them millions, and leaving the American company in the dark as to how to proceed without going out of business.

Now, according to CEO Henry Juszkiewicz, agents of the United States government are bluntly informing them that theyd be better off shipping their manufacturing labor overseas.

This story should play well with the swing voters Obummer desperately needs to win reelection. One wonders if he really does want to get reelected or just cause as much damage as he can on his way out of the door? Between this and the Jobs speech debacle one does wonder.

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posted on 09/01/2011 12:26:31 AM PDT
by Lazlo in PA
(Now living in a newly minted Red State.)

I read the comments on the site... Someone suggests one of the candidates show up at the deabte with a Gibson Guitar and tell this story.

Please if anyone on FR has any connections with any campaigns use this idea. Get a Gibson Guitar (I suggest a Gold Top Les Paul because it is iconic!) and get in front of a Fox News Camera and get this story out there!

I read the comments on the site... Someone suggests one of the candidates show up at the deabte with a Gibson Guitar and tell this story. Please if anyone on FR has any connections with any campaigns use this idea. Get a Gibson Guitar (I suggest a Gold Top Les Paul because it is iconic!) and get in front of a Fox News Camera and get this story out there!

I agree except unless that person holding the guitar also has an actual copy of the Federal document suggesting the move to Madagascar, the MSM will discount the veracity of the story.

Ebony comes from several places, Madagascar is one
Gabon is another the same with rose wood.
Long ago when I was apprentice to an instrument maker
there were various restrictions, so I suppose it’s
the same today. We used to go to flea markets looking
for curios made of ebony to cut up for nuts bridges etc.
My big dulcimore which unhappily was stolen some
years ago had Brazilian Rosewood finger board with
ebony inlays and mother of pearl doves, a hand carved
man in the moon on the neck and other work that made it
one of a kind. Sigh.

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posted on 09/01/2011 12:52:41 AM PDT
by tet68
( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)

The issue is not with ebony, it’s with Indian rosewood, which the indians prefer to handwork there. Problem is the work does not meet Gibson’s standards, so additional finishing work is needed at the Gibson factory.

According the the DOJ, this violates some technicality or other, and explains why the DOJ suggests doing the work outside the US where this looney law does not apply.

This is pure insanity and is perfectly illustrative of why this our government needs a thoroughgoing high-pressure hosedown.

Barack Obama and Eric Holders DoJ has decided to come after AT&T for its plans to merge with T-Mobile, possibly doing the bidding of donors while hindering jobs growth in America as well as nationwide 4G wireless Internet competition...

So Holder wants to drive Gibson manufacturing out of the US, and to keep T-Mobile in German hands, and prevent AT&T from bringing jobs back to America. Do I have that right?..

Back in California, Amazon offered Democrats a compromise that included the possibility of thousands of jobs in this state. I am informed the Democrats have rejected the offer. I hope now Amazon realizes the only option is millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute. The unconstitutional Internet sales tax/Amazon Tax must not be paid.

So did Michelle give Carla Bruni-Sarkozy the Gibson guitar before the first raid/$500K wood confiscation or after it when Obama's DOJ was planning the second armed raid and Indian Rosewood confiscation? Hmmmmm? This is just sick.

Made in Madagascar? Might as well be Made in China, no one would pay prices like for Gibson Made in USA. I suggest a special run of ‘Government Seizure’ guitars, and Tennessee Governor start looking out for jobs in his state.

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posted on 09/01/2011 3:25:03 AM PDT
by Son House
(The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)

I was a Les Paul guy my whole life, but a just play for myself as a hobby.

I have kept a second Strat around at times, just for something different to play I started committing to practicing more recently, and found myself favoring the comfort and versatility of the Strat much I just sold my Les Paul Custom.

They are/were Squier and Epiphone imports, so collector value is not my concern. The smaller necks of the imports fit my hand far better.

It's now clear that the "Justice" Department will attack any non-Union businesses and try to destroy them. Likewise, where insufficient Minority employment exists, you can expect FORCED HIRING of un-skilled, un-qualified, un-economicly-viable Obama-worshippers to be implemented.

This is what America has become....join The Party, or else.

Selective enforcement of only PARTS of the Law, to gain votes/favor with Donors and/or the voterbase of the "Progressives".

Gibson uses mahogany and rosewood from India. They have used this wood (legal) for over 17 years. There was another raid in 2009 (they have yet to get the confiscated wood products back.)
Competitor C F Martin & Co uses the same wood but Chris Martin is a donor to the democratic party, whereas Gibson has supported republicans. The Martin Co has had no action taken against them.
The Gibson company has taken precautions to make sure the wood is legal and approved by both governments.

*** Does anyone know, whats so special about the ebony Gibson is using? Lots of guitar companies use ebony, so whats special about Gibson? ***

Well you have some answers but here's how it breaks down to me.

First it's not just the Ebony, but most of the 'exotic' woods Gibson uses on their top line guitars. And per 'international agreements' and STOO-PID™ US Eco-Nazi 'laws', there's 'Good Exotic Wood' (legal) and 'Bad Exotic Wood' (illegal). And to use 'the 'bad exotic wood' you need gobs of paperwork proving that you had it before all the laws and regs went into effect.

In short, it's kind of like 'Blood Diamonds'. There's nothing wrong with them except the source they came from and in what year. Also that Gibson Guitar is getting the shaft from Barry's Gestapo, 'just for kicks'.

Note: I don't understand the whole 'Blood Diamond' baloney either. A 4 Caret Diamond is a 4 Caret Diamond. No matter from where in Africa it came from.

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posted on 09/01/2011 4:23:28 AM PDT
by Condor51
(The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A.Einstein])

From what I heard on the radio yesterday, their competition, Martin guitars, are owned by a democrap supporter and uses the same woods and has had no problems from the government like the pub supporting Gibson company does. No politics going on here, no sir.

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