ciberido:Fubini: And yeah, when you use a jammer you're declaring that you're more important than everyone else around you.

No, you're saying that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one. That the rest of the audience be able to enjoy the movie or play is more important than that one person who wants to talk to her bff right then.

Fubini:You don't have to be a doctor to have an important phone call- it could be some guy's wife going into labor or someone's kid who got stuck at school, both are important enough to warrant immediate attention.

No, they're not so important that the person MUST rush out of the theater that very second, and if they WERE, then that person shouldn't BE in the theater. If you cannot turn your phone off and sit quietly like a civilized human being, then DO NOT GO.

The self-important person here isn't the person with the jammer: it's the person who left their cell phone ringer. Frankly, you're projecting your own self-importance on the very people who don't want to tolerate yours.

No, on all points. You are wrong-wrong-wrongedy-wrong!

I was in a movie not long ago when a guy got up next to me an said "sorry, gotta go right now, my boy just got hurt playing hockey".No ringer went off, so he clearly had it on vibrate or whatever. Bottom line is he was perfectly civil about it and that's that.

You would have everyone stay at home all day and do nothing on the contingency something might transpire. Asinine.

Jim from Saint Paul:rubi_con_man: Mayostard: Glad to know that it's perfectly acceptable to maliciously destroy someone's property, then blog about it like you're some hero. biatch might have been annoying, but this guy comes off as a dick.

So you think the underground railroad was manned by dicks too, eh?

Waitwaitwaitwaitwait...wait...WAIT.

Did you just compare this dude to Harriett frickin Tubman?

LOL, I am SO happy you brought that up. It so caught me off guard my mind went into the "Lewis Black-'if it werent for my horse' state.

gadian:I know if I were a teacher / professor I'd carry one of those damn jammers in class every day. When the hell did kids get so rude? I can generally manage to not fark around during class, but these youngsters all around me are just texting away the entire class. I'm wondering why they even bother coming.

One of my college professors had a rule, stated at the beginning of the semester: you get one free pass with your cellphone. After that each time it rings during class time she took one half point off the letter grade of the next test (b to b-), and if she saw you talking or texting during class it would count for one half off the letter grade for the entire semester.I heard one phone go off the entire 16 weeks of class. The first few minutes of each period were spent putting phones on vibrate or shutting them off.

Not assault under New York law, its just Harassment. To be assault you need to cause physical injury or intense pain. A stinging cheek does not qualify as injury or intense pain (a nutshot would, not a slap), so he couldn't charge assault if he tried.

Physical attack is battery, whether it's a slap or a knock-out punch. Assault includes verbal exchanges. If I yell specifically at you, calling you names and threatening your life, but haven't touched you, then that's assault. Battery is when I add touching you (especially with a fist or knee). Pushing a person around may still be within the realm of assault. A kick to the nuts would be battery.

Jim from Saint Paul:Yanks_RSJ: Jim from Saint Paul: For all you know, my kid fell and broke a bone and my babysitter is calling me trying to let me know.

Assuming it happened the second after you entered the theater, it would be no more than a couple of hours until you found out. Unless you're planning on setting the broken bone, there's not much you can do anyway, so enjoy the respite from your parental reality.

Or you could have your babysitter call the theater itself in the event of an emergency. Exactly as parents did for generations before cellular technology was widespread.

It was done that way BECAUSE there was no technology. Not because it was "better".

Example: Let's say I go to a theatre playing Star Trek into Darkness this Friday night. There will be 150+ people in that theatre. Say there are two showings at 7PM. All my babysitter can do is describe what I look like. What happens? you have 2 theatres of people where ushers are walking up and down the aisle's with their little non-LED lights trying to ID me. What, THAT won't disrupt more people then a 5 second flicker of light by my phone?

So why need the middle man again? I am not shiatting on your IM 3 experience by double checking a call isn;t from the person watching my children. Please don;t equate me with people not barely paying attention to the movie.

Besides, i am on Fark. It's not like I am getting alot of calls from "friends" seeing as I don;t have any besides YOU PEOPLE.

If it's ok for you to do it then it's ok for everyone to do it. Try watching a movie with a few dozen (or more) "5 second flickers". In the olden days, people were incommunicado for much of the time. Somehow most of us survived. Try turning off your phone. The world probably won't end.

Mayostard:Glad to know that it's perfectly acceptable to maliciously destroy someone's property, then blog about it like you're some hero. biatch might have been annoying, but this guy comes off as a dick.

Jim from Saint Paul:rubi_con_man: Mayostard: Glad to know that it's perfectly acceptable to maliciously destroy someone's property, then blog about it like you're some hero. biatch might have been annoying, but this guy comes off as a dick.

What is the lawful way in which the woman is made to turn her phone off and shut up, OR made to leave the theater?

Does the theater owner have to call the cops, and then the cops have to arrest her? And in the meantime, how long does it take the cops to get there and how much drama is made?

Mayostard: Glad to know that it's perfectly acceptable to maliciously destroy someone's property, then blog about it like you're some hero. biatch might have been annoying, but this guy comes off as a dick.

So you think the underground railroad was manned by dicks too, eh?

shroom: Check it in the lobby with the house manager and give them your seat number.

/theatre person

This This This.

I am sure that the house manager will enjoy the opportunity to provide superior, refined service to all.

"Someone might be important, so I get to be a douche" is not a way to run a civilization.

That has to be, without a shadow of a doubt, the stupidest, most how-the-f*ck-do-you-come-up-such-retarded-f*cking-comments... comment. Ever.Seriously.

If you are sitting behind someone when they use the phone it will most likely be at their waist level when seated in a chair. You will not get blinded by that light. I am willing to be this lady was dragged to the theater and did not want to go that's why she was playing with the phone.

Even with tiered seating the device is low enough that if you don't look down you would barely be able to tell, watch the movie/play.

You are incorrect on all counts. Even on waist level with tiered seating, you can see it. Every one I have seen who thinks they are hiding their phone in this manner holds it down and to the side. Where I can clearly see it. Do you really think a tiny LED flashlight blaring in the corner of my eye isn't distracting? If so, congrats on being wrong.

Does it cause you immense pain to not be able to text constantly during a movie? Do you absolutely 100% need to text or play games on your phone constantly throughout a movie?

Is it really that hard to be polite and turn off your phone when the giant screen tells you to?

I might not resort to tossing your phone around, but people who do this deserve to be scolded and put in time-out like the children they are.

Just Another OC Homeless Guy:Odd Bird:Lines, for example. Does anyone other than me honor that concept anymore? Even though we are no longer homeless, things are still tight and we get food at a couple of local churches, and from the city. Invariably there are an increasingly large number of people who think nothing of arriving at the last minute and barging into line near or at the front. Both the people running the event and the people already in line often seem to have a reticence for complaining about this. I'm pretty sure of the reason, but I'd like to hear some other opinions, first.

Mayostard:Jim from Saint Paul: rubi_con_man: Mayostard: Glad to know that it's perfectly acceptable to maliciously destroy someone's property, then blog about it like you're some hero. biatch might have been annoying, but this guy comes off as a dick.

So you think the underground railroad was manned by dicks too, eh?

Waitwaitwaitwaitwait...wait...WAIT.

Did you just compare this dude to Harriett frickin Tubman?

rubi_con_man: Here's the question :

What is the lawful way in which the woman is made to turn her phone off and shut up, OR made to leave the theater?

Does the theater owner have to call the cops, and then the cops have to arrest her? And in the meantime, how long does it take the cops to get there and how much drama is made?

Mayostard: Glad to know that it's perfectly acceptable to maliciously destroy someone's property, then blog about it like you're some hero. biatch might have been annoying, but this guy comes off as a dick.

So you think the underground railroad was manned by dicks too, eh?

shroom: Check it in the lobby with the house manager and give them your seat number.

/theatre person

This This This.

I am sure that the house manager will enjoy the opportunity to provide superior, refined service to all.

"Someone might be important, so I get to be a douche" is not a way to run a civilization.

That has to be, without a shadow of a doubt, the stupidest, most how-the-f*ck-do-you-come-up-such-retarded-f*cking-comments... comment. Ever.Seriously.

Profedius:I was in a packed movie once on opening night and the guy next to me gets a call in the middle of the movie. This person did have his phone on vibrate, but he answered the call with a "Yo girl whats up." And then proceeded to talk with her. I could tell be the nature of the conversation that this was not an emergency situation so I leaned over and said "Your conversation during the movie is upsetting those around you could you please call her back later or leave the movie?" his reply was consistent with his intelligence and respect for others "Fark you mother Farker!" So I grabbed the phone out of his hand and dumped it into his fountain drink that was conveniently not covered by a lid, because he had removed the lid to pour cheap vodka in it....snip ...When the movie was over a group of people walked me to my car which was nice even though I was carrying a concealed weapon. He was waiting for me outside, but seeing all the people around me he turned around and walked away.

I was with you until the part about the concealed weapon. I thought one of your responsibilities when carrying was to remain non confrontational, especially about relatively trivial matters... almost sounds like you're trying to get in a situation where you can shoot someone.

Bullseyed:You're laughably wrong. It is very common for businesses to hold criminals until the police can arrive. It usually is against store policy to do so though.

Really? In what way would the "shopkeeper's privilege" apply considering no theft has occurred? Further, the reason it is usually against store policy, is because "unlawful" restraint is also a civil matter and if the allegation proves false the store will be held liable, usually for far more than the value of the goods.

starlost:I was in a packed movie once on opening night and the guy next to me gets a call in the middle of the movie. This person did have his phone on vibrate, but he answered the call with a "Yo girl whats up." And then proceeded to talk with her. I could tell be the nature of the conversation that this was not an emergency situation so I leaned over and said "Your conversation during the movie is upsetting those around you could you please call her back later or leave the movie?" his reply was consistent with his intelligence and respect for others "Fark you mother Farker!" So I grabbed the phone out of his hand and dumped it into his fountain drink that was conveniently not covered by a lid, because he had removed the lid to pour cheap vodka in it. All those around me started clapping and thanking me which must have angered him even more, because he took a swing at me which I easily dodged. I grabbed his arm forced it behind and up his back walked him down the row and into the wall then down and out the emergency exit. When I turned around I think everyone was clapping and cheering. The theater was even nice enough to rewind the film to before his call. When the movie was over a group of people walked me to my car which was nice even though I was carrying a concealed weapon. He was waiting for me outside, but seeing all the people around me he turned around and walked away.

and you carry a concealed weapon and he carries one and shots are fired over this incident. why do people who carry a concealed weapon consider themselves to be billy badass. you aren't. you are a punk with a few hundred dollars who bought a permit so you hope you can be the bully. the haha i got a gun and the guy i think is bad is going to get it but not innocent bystanders reasoning. almost any situation where a private citizen says i must carry a gun can easily be flagged as bullshiate in the first world. you are joe blow going to the movies and think you need a gun-society is weakened by people l ...

whoa there, Jitterbug. Very little of what you said is relevant. You should step down off your high-horse before you break a leg.

Jim from Saint Paul:Like you jammer assholes. Fark you. For all you know, my kid fell and broke a bone and my babysitter is calling me trying to let me know. I am not saying you can;t get enjoyment over making the assholes with phones unhappy, I am just saying you aren;t affecting just them. Your farkin with everybody and I personally don;t appreciate it.

Your precious snowflake won't die before the movie is over. If the kid is in serious trouble the babysitter should be calling 911, not your egotistical ass. You know, there was a time when we didn't have cellphones, and the human race didn't die off. Somehow we managed without them. Nobody is farking with you; you're just another self-important douchbag, which is bad enough, but now you want to be belligerent about it? Fine. Go fark yourself, asshat, and your stupid broke-arm kid.

Rik01:There are powerful jammers available for commercial use by stores, but few actually use them, apparently afraid they might loose business. Portable jammers are available also, that fit in your pocket, but technically they're illegal. (A real fast and under the table movement apparently by cell companies and congress.) Though, you can still get them from the Internet.

its a public safety issue.

Its awesome to bring a pocket jammer into a movie theater until some psycho starts shooting and nobody can get a signal enough to call 911

Jument:f it's ok for you to do it then it's ok for everyone to do it. Try watching a movie with a few dozen (or more) "5 second flickers". In the olden days, people were incommunicado for much of the time. Somehow most of us survived. Try turning off your phone. The world probably won't end.

A few dozen? Really? I mean, I went to IM 3 in the last few weeks 100 people in the audience. Didn;t notice one cell phone while the movie was on. Maybe I can focuse more intently then others, yet I am rivited by the movie I am watching enough to not really see those around me and any fiddling they are doing.

GloomCookie613:shroom: Prank Call of Cthulhu: In before some self-important asshole shows up to explain why it's soooooo vitally important for physicians to have cell phones with them all the time in case there's an emergency, because apparently prior to the invention of the cell phone there was no way to get messages to people when they didn't carry their own phones and people were just keeling over dead left and right because of it.

Check it in the lobby with the house manager and give them your seat number.

/theatre person

Yep. Most any manager worth a damn would be fine with that.

It's like being polite and thinking ahead are farking superpowers anymore.

The number of times I've watched someone swerve from the left-most lane, across multiple lanes of traffic, to just barely make an exit, tells me that you may be onto something.

Was out to lunch yesterday and was 3rd in line behind two people on their cell phones. The place has a very visable sign asking people who order to not be on their phones, and obviously the people in front of me were too busy to read. The person at the counter looked right past them and asked me what I wanted and allowed me to order before them. The lady directly in front of me got offended and asked why she was being skipped (while still having her conversation on the phone). The employee told her 'if people are on the phone we assume they are not ready to order so I took the next person NOT on their phone'. When I was leaving, the lady was talking with the manager - while never putting the phone down the entire time. BTW, the first guy in line never even moved...just kept talking like no one was around.

ciberido:Jim from Saint Paul: Like you jammer assholes. Fark you. For all you know, my kid fell and broke a bone and my babysitter is calling me trying to let me know. I am not saying you can;t get enjoyment over making the assholes with phones unhappy, I am just saying you aren;t affecting just them. Your farkin with everybody and I personally don;t appreciate it.

Your precious snowflake won't die before the movie is over. If the kid is in serious trouble the babysitter should be calling 911, not your egotistical ass. You know, there was a time when we didn't have cellphones, and the human race didn't die off. Somehow we managed without them. Nobody is farking with you; you're just another self-important douchbag, which is bad enough, but now you want to be belligerent about it? Fine. Go fark yourself, asshat, and your stupid broke-arm kid.

You're just not nearly as important as you think you are.

The only thing I was "beligerent" about were those who decided jammers were ok. They're not. You can;t agree, oh well.

o5iiawah:Rik01: There are powerful jammers available for commercial use by stores, but few actually use them, apparently afraid they might loose business. Portable jammers are available also, that fit in your pocket, but technically they're illegal. (A real fast and under the table movement apparently by cell companies and congress.) Though, you can still get them from the Internet.

its a public safety issue.

Its awesome to bring a pocket jammer into a movie theater until some psycho starts shooting and nobody can get a signal enough to call 911

I have to imagine the world is a terrifying place for you.

That, or you're the sort of person who, when faced with something that they just simply don't find tasteful, feels compelled to reach for some variant of the "think of the children!" card, so as not to sound like a humorless prude.

BigNumber12:GloomCookie613: shroom: Prank Call of Cthulhu: In before some self-important asshole shows up to explain why it's soooooo vitally important for physicians to have cell phones with them all the time in case there's an emergency, because apparently prior to the invention of the cell phone there was no way to get messages to people when they didn't carry their own phones and people were just keeling over dead left and right because of it.

Check it in the lobby with the house manager and give them your seat number.

/theatre person

Yep. Most any manager worth a damn would be fine with that.

It's like being polite and thinking ahead are farking superpowers anymore.

The number of times I've watched someone swerve from the left-most lane, across multiple lanes of traffic, to just barely make an exit, tells me that you may be onto something.

Ugh. I'll drive to the next exit and backtrack before doing that shiat. It's dangerous AND stupid.

Then again, I plan ahead and give myself time to get places instead of white-knuckling it to get there on time.

waterrockets:Dog Welder: kkinnison: So obviously the manager had no balls and couldn't control the rude behavior of guests taht were using cell phones when they were told not to

More and more I would like theaters to have cell phone jamming devices active during performances , or even giant Faraday cages

It's for this reason I really want to visit the Alamo Draft House to see a movie at some point. They tell you they have zero tolerance for this shiat, and they actually mean it. They will throw your ass out for using your cell phone during a movie.

'tis true.

/seen it//smiled

This is one of my favorite PSA's they use at the Alamo Drafthouse: Reno 911Here is a phone call wherein an unhappy customer explains what happens when you use your phone at the Alamo Drafthouse - then Alamo used the call as one of their PSA's (which is what the video is)

GloomCookie613:BigNumber12: GloomCookie613: shroom: Prank Call of Cthulhu: In before some self-important asshole shows up to explain why it's soooooo vitally important for physicians to have cell phones with them all the time in case there's an emergency, because apparently prior to the invention of the cell phone there was no way to get messages to people when they didn't carry their own phones and people were just keeling over dead left and right because of it.

Check it in the lobby with the house manager and give them your seat number.

/theatre person

Yep. Most any manager worth a damn would be fine with that.

It's like being polite and thinking ahead are farking superpowers anymore.

The number of times I've watched someone swerve from the left-most lane, across multiple lanes of traffic, to just barely make an exit, tells me that you may be onto something.

Ugh. I'll drive to the next exit and backtrack before doing that shiat. It's dangerous AND stupid.

Then again, I plan ahead and give myself time to get places instead of white-knuckling it to get there on time.

Bumblefark:o5iiawah: Rik01: There are powerful jammers available for commercial use by stores, but few actually use them, apparently afraid they might loose business. Portable jammers are available also, that fit in your pocket, but technically they're illegal. (A real fast and under the table movement apparently by cell companies and congress.) Though, you can still get them from the Internet.

its a public safety issue.

Its awesome to bring a pocket jammer into a movie theater until some psycho starts shooting and nobody can get a signal enough to call 911

I have to imagine the world is a terrifying place for you.

That, or you're the sort of person who, when faced with something that they just simply don't find tasteful, feels compelled to reach for some variant of the "think of the children!" card, so as not to sound like a humorless prude.

Bumblefark:Manners don't enforce themselves. The civilized world fairly hinges on a few unbalanced assholes who remind the poorly socialized among us that codes of etiquette are not just empty suggestions. Rationalize your own diffusion of responsibility, if you like, but let's not pretend that people like this don't serve a vital social role.

Spoken with all the ignorant hubris of a man who's never done or seen anything like it in his life.

Your notion that societal norms are or should be defined by those least capable of controlling their own behavior is, at best, stupidly laughable.

Odd Bird:skozlaw: Odd Bird: I usually don't call people out on their actions because of this concern, and because I don't want to become of those self-appointed police/control dicks. But from time to time I do and usually get good results when it's done somewhat courteous manner with very tempered amount of tough-guy machismo. (daughter's graduation, outdoor concert)

I won't call people out in a situation like that because

a) It's a minor issue and, as an adult, I don't feel like I need to go from zero to Elmer Fudd over it

[Zero].......(points between)......[Elmer Fudd]

Given that you didn't mention the possibility there might be points-between, I'll not bother with the specifics of the situations mentioned.

It was a comment on the nitwit in the article who decided the best course of action was to fly into a head-steaming, Looney-Tunesque fit of rage over his feelings being hurt by the meanie next to him, not you.

Jim from Saint Paul:Bumblefark: o5iiawah: Rik01: There are powerful jammers available for commercial use by stores, but few actually use them, apparently afraid they might loose business. Portable jammers are available also, that fit in your pocket, but technically they're illegal. (A real fast and under the table movement apparently by cell companies and congress.) Though, you can still get them from the Internet.

its a public safety issue.

Its awesome to bring a pocket jammer into a movie theater until some psycho starts shooting and nobody can get a signal enough to call 911

I have to imagine the world is a terrifying place for you.

That, or you're the sort of person who, when faced with something that they just simply don't find tasteful, feels compelled to reach for some variant of the "think of the children!" card, so as not to sound like a humorless prude.

the money is in the banana stand:The sad thing is that this your behavior was appropriate and the theater itself should have done exactly what you did, however, today that would end up in a lawsuit as well as the employee being hurt or worse. I would bet more citizens would do what you did also if it wasn't for fear that ghetto person x would retaliate or try to kill them. Sadly, the person you handled has more rights and is more protected than you and others. The likelihood they will reform is slim to none as they have gone through their entire life getting their way because they are louder than others and haven't been put in their place.

I agree with you whole sale. The reason I took action was because I knew I could handle him due to military training, being an ex bouncer and since I was working as an investigator at the time I was armed at all times. Instead of waiting outside to confront me he should have contacted the police, because I did destroy private property, but I was prepared for that as well since I knew a great many people on the police force and those responding would likely be someone I knew.

skozlaw:Bumblefark: Manners don't enforce themselves. The civilized world fairly hinges on a few unbalanced assholes who remind the poorly socialized among us that codes of etiquette are not just empty suggestions. Rationalize your own diffusion of responsibility, if you like, but let's not pretend that people like this don't serve a vital social role.

Spoken with all the ignorant hubris of a man who's never done or seen anything like it in his life.

Your notion that societal norms are or should be defined by those least capable of controlling their own behavior is, at best, stupidly laughable.

First point: kudos for the word "hubris." Beyond that, I have no clue what point you're trying to make.

Second point: I didn't say the unhinged assholes define societal norms. I said they tend to be those who enforce them. That isn't speculation. There's a whole body of scientific literature on "self help" in the sociology of law/morals. I was referencing an empirical fact.

rewind2846:gadian: I know if I were a teacher / professor I'd carry one of those damn jammers in class every day. When the hell did kids get so rude? I can generally manage to not fark around during class, but these youngsters all around me are just texting away the entire class. I'm wondering why they even bother coming.

One of my college professors had a rule, stated at the beginning of the semester: you get one free pass with your cellphone. After that each time it rings during class time she took one half point off the letter grade of the next test (b to b-), and if she saw you talking or texting during class it would count for one half off the letter grade for the entire semester.I heard one phone go off the entire 16 weeks of class. The first few minutes of each period were spent putting phones on vibrate or shutting them off.

Jim from Saint Paul:kiwimoogle84: Bschott007: I happen to have purchased one of the portable jammers online a few months ago.

CSB:

When Iron Man 3 premiered, it was a packed house. Got there an hour early just to make sure I got a good seat and the theater filled up real fast 10 minutes later. Looking around, I see at least half of the people in the theater were using their smartphones. A majority of those folks turn their brightness levels of their screens down which was a welcome relief....except this overweight lady sitting in the row in front of me and just two seats to the left. Her screen brightness is up on full and she is texting away..with the sound volume maxed.

So the pre-movie Marcus theater intro pops up and everyone puts away their phones, except this woman who puts down her phone but then picks it up to text right up to the start of the movie.

About 10 minutes in, she starts to text away again. Her husband doesn't say anything, he just puts up his right hand to shield his eyes from the light. I'm sick of it so I reach into my coat pocket (it was 40 degrees outside in my neck of the woods) and turn on my jammer.

Oh it was so nice to see this lady slapping her phone in frustration (as if that would help) as her signal was lost. She finally got out of her seat and walked (waddled?) out of the theater never to return back to the movie. I left the jammer on until the final scene played after the credits then turned it off and left.

I guess she figured that the theater was at fault as she was yelling at the movie theater manager (I assume it was the manager as he was wearing a business suit with a theater name badge pinned to his jacket. All the other employees were in white shirts, black pants, and black ties).

First time I every used my jammer in public and I certainly will use it when I go to Fast 6 and Star Trek this weekend.

/csb

I saw IM3 last weekend- right as the movie started, a burly (sounding) dude from the back of the theater shouts, "If I see one ...

I will occasionally check the time on my phone during a long movie- I'll hit the wake-up button with my phone at the very bottom of my purse while the screen is at the dimmest setting. NO ONE, even those sitting next to me, ever see it light up. So I get that you have kids and whatnot, but as long as you don't pull it out while it's lit up (you can hit call ignore, leave the theater, and call back immediately) I have no problem with this.

coeyagi:Mayostard: Glad to know that it's perfectly acceptable to maliciously destroy someone's property, then blog about it like you're some hero. biatch might have been annoying, but this guy comes off as a dick.

No, he doesn't. F*CK YOU, YOU STUPID WHORE AT THE PLAY. Everyone in 21st century America knows you DON'T do that sh*t, and you deserved to be ass-raped by concertina wire for the next 14 years for doing it.

starlost:I was in a packed movie once on opening night and the guy next to me gets a call in the middle of the movie. This person did have his phone on vibrate, but he answered the call with a "Yo girl whats up." And then proceeded to talk with her. I could tell be the nature of the conversation that this was not an emergency situation so I leaned over and said "Your conversation during the movie is upsetting those around you could you please call her back later or leave the movie?" his reply was consistent with his intelligence and respect for others "Fark you mother Farker!" So I grabbed the phone out of his hand and dumped it into his fountain drink that was conveniently not covered by a lid, because he had removed the lid to pour cheap vodka in it. All those around me started clapping and thanking me which must have angered him even more, because he took a swing at me which I easily dodged. I grabbed his arm forced it behind and up his back walked him down the row and into the wall then down and out the emergency exit. When I turned around I think everyone was clapping and cheering. The theater was even nice enough to rewind the film to before his call. When the movie was over a group of people walked me to my car which was nice even though I was carrying a concealed weapon. He was waiting for me outside, but seeing all the people around me he turned around and walked away.

and you carry a concealed weapon and he carries one and shots are fired over this incident. why do people who carry a concealed weapon consider themselves to be billy badass. you aren't. you are a punk with a few hundred dollars who bought a permit so you hope you can be the bully. the haha i got a gun and the guy i think is bad is going to get it but not innocent bystanders reasoning. almost any situation where a private citizen says i must carry a gun can easily be flagged as bullshiate in the first world. you are joe blow going to the movies and think you need a gun-society is weakened by people l ...

Wow you must feel really silly after reading my second post. I had a concealed weapon on me, because I was employed as an investigator at the time and was required by my employer to be armed at all times. I didn't have a permit I had a badge which requires a lot more training with the firearm than a permit. You should also notice that I never went for my sidearm and made sure to disable the use of his hand from reaching for a firearm had he had one.

On your statement about others being armed feeling like Billy bad ass I bet there are people and or their families that were at the theater in Denver who wish there was some armed members attending. People who believe making guns illegal will remove them from criminals are regrettable delusional.

I agree with you whole sale. The reason I took action was because I knew I could handle him due to military training, being an ex bouncer and since I was working as an investigator at the time I was armed at all times. Instead of waiting outside to confront me he should have contacted the police, because I did destroy private property, but I was prepared for that as well since I knew a great many people on the police force and those responding would likely be someone I knew.

So you stir up unnecessary conflict over something minor, take the first unlawful action, then are either ready to shoot him, or hide behind the gang you're an associate of, the police. You sound like the thug here.

I was at the HoB with a date watching Richard Cheese (yeah, yeah) back in the Summer of 2011. Big notices regarding no flash photography. Cheese comes out- repeats: no flash photography, don't be a dick, asshole, etc.

Show starts. Young, 20something couple in front of us start taking flash pictures using their cell phones of themselves (ie: they pointed the phones at them, so the flash was coming towards us). After photo 8 or 9 I leaned forward and asked them to stop. Firmly. The woman (it's always the woman that bucks up- they all seem to have this gross sense of entitlement, of being enabled) decides that I'm wrong, and tells me so. I ask if they felt they were special. Then I told them if they didn't stop I would take the cell phone and destroy it.

Very simply stated, clearly a threat. Calm, collected.

Whatever it was about my threat/demeanor they stopped, our retinas relaxed, and the people behind us tapped on my shoulder and gave a thumbs up.

This guy went way beyond, and I salute that. Cell phone junkies, as most people are, are the bicyclists of our time: the laws don't apply to them, they have full right to act in such a manner. Forget society, this isn't bothering anyone, I'm special, I'm unique, the law won't handle this, so neither will you.

It's a sad state when in a civilized society we must pursue vigilantism as a counter to this rash of "me me me"-ism which has sprung up in the past 15 years.

YAY! Now keep it up. Smash all arseholes phone or device that can't comply with some simple courtesy. Maybe paying for that phone a few times will teach them to be respectful. Otherwise your iPhone will be iTrash. Fark'em!

gadian:I know if I were a teacher / professor I'd carry one of those damn jammers in class every day. When the hell did kids get so rude? I can generally manage to not fark around during class, but these youngsters all around me are just texting away the entire class. I'm wondering why they even bother coming.

Was in a small classroom with 10 or so of us, graduate math class. This grad student sits in the front and opens up a NY Times and proceeds to read during the middle of the prof's lecture. That's chutzpah.

endmile:SuperNinjaToad: DubyaHater: Could someone specify the race and gender of the cellphone user? I have an idea, but I'd like confirmation

If this had been anywhere else I would probably have unwittingly agreed on your implied racist post but as this happened in NYC it's actually fair game. Could very well be a blond blue eyed socialite and her equally rude friends.

Yeah because white people never act like assholes anywhere outside of NYC

Of course a-holes come in all different shades but typically when it comes to things like these, blacks tend to be the culprit a lot more than whites and damn you for making me made a racist-ish statement like that!

Just Another OC Homeless Guy:Odd Bird: Endorsed vigilantism would lead to a breakdown of the fabric of society.But a few incidents like this where the "hero" gets a pat on the back and all attempts at recourse by the "victim" are twarted would strengthen the fabric.

/stupid coont.

I'm 63. I've noticed, over the years, that one huge problem we have as a society, a problem that is leading to the gradual decline of society - is an increasing unwillingness of people to "call" other people on offensive behavior. A certain amount of this is due to fear of immediate or delayed reprisal by the offending party or the offending party's friends.

Lines, for example. Does anyone other than me honor that concept anymore? Even though we are no longer homeless, things are still tight and we get food at a couple of local churches, and from the city. Invariably there are an increasingly large number of people who think nothing of arriving at the last minute and barging into line near or at the front. Both the people running the event and the people already in line often seem to have a reticence for complaining about this. I'm pretty sure of the reason, but I'd like to hear some other opinions, first.

Damn...sounds like you need some old school nuns with rulers, whack some knuckles.

DibDub:I agree with you whole sale. The reason I took action was because I knew I could handle him due to military training, being an ex bouncer and since I was working as an investigator at the time I was armed at all times. Instead of waiting outside to confront me he should have contacted the police, because I did destroy private property, but I was prepared for that as well since I knew a great many people on the police force and those responding would likely be someone I knew.

So you stir up unnecessary conflict over something minor, take the first unlawful action, then are either ready to shoot him, or hide behind the gang you're an associate of, the police. You sound like the thug here.

/supports CCW, doesn't support cell phones in theatres

I would agree with that speculation as long as stir up in your opinion does not imply create and instead means escalate since he was the one that created the conflict by becoming hostile in response to an extremely polite request made in a non-confrontational tone. I don't know how thuggish I was considering when he resumed his conversation there was references to doing me bodily harm. At that time in my life though I reacted forcefully to confrontation so I guess I would consider my reaction to be extreme, but since it was a reaction I wouldn't consider it thuggish in nature since that would imply that I was forcing my will on others who were not in conflict with me.

gweilo8888:Profedius: I was in a packed movie once on opening night and the guy next to me gets a call in the middle of the movie. This person did have his phone on vibrate, but he answered the call with a "Yo girl whats up." And then proceeded to talk with her. I could tell be the nature of the conversation that this was not an emergency situation so I leaned over and said "Your conversation during the movie is upsetting those around you could you please call her back later or leave the movie?" his reply was consistent with his intelligence and respect for others "Fark you mother Farker!" So I grabbed the phone out of his hand and dumped it into his fountain drink that was conveniently not covered by a lid, because he had removed the lid to pour cheap vodka in it. All those around me started clapping and thanking me which must have angered him even more, because he took a swing at me which I easily dodged. I grabbed his arm forced it behind and up his back walked him down the row and into the wall then down and out the emergency exit. When I turned around I think everyone was clapping and cheering. The theater was even nice enough to rewind the film to before his call. When the movie was over a group of people walked me to my car which was nice even though I was carrying a concealed weapon. He was waiting for me outside, but seeing all the people around me he turned around and walked away.

And then you woke up, and you were still in mommy's basement, and your boner went away.