What's the general consensus on the Rolex submariner? Got the opportunity to buy one at the moment, but just wondering if there are other watches you all recommend for the same sort of money as a pre owned sub?

My opinion of the sub is that it is a good watch, but being a diver it's a lot of money to spend on something that isn't a dress watch, and also I think it may be overpriced for what it is because of the Rolex name.

That said, it's also an icon so if you like it, and unless you have a job with a super-strict traditional dress code nobody will look at you twice for wearing it so... have at it!

just be cognizant of condition. Just like cars, a little "patina" and wear is acceptable on a vintage piece, but on something that doesn't qualify as "vintage" any deviation from "showroom condition" devalues the watch.

Good luck and I hope you find that it is as good or better than you are expecting!

Damn you all, now I've realized that I "need" a Hamilton Ventura as well. I've spent most of my day off becoming reacquainted with vintage watch forums and sites...

I've seen some Rolexes that were refurbished, and the cases were ground down so far that you couldn't even catch your fingernail on the raised section of the case where the bracelet attaches. An un altered case also has a very slight bevel on the edges.

Meh, it is what it is... not everyone can afford a Rolex Daytona - and even if I personally could, I'd feel odd dropping that much on a watch. (and I'd probably go for a vintage Heuer or Speedy anyway)

Quite honestly, so long as the metals and leathers match your belt and shoes, that's more effort than most people put into dressing up anymore

Meh, it is what it is... not everyone can afford a Rolex Daytona - and even if I personally could, I'd feel odd dropping that much on a watch. (and I'd probably go for a vintage Heuer or Speedy anyway)

Quite honestly, so long as the metals and leathers match your belt and shoes, that's more effort than most people put into dressing up anymore

Lol, I wear ripped jeans, t-shirt, and zip up hoodie. Only ways people can tell I have money is if they look at my wrist, cars I drive, or my boat. But walking down the street, you wouldn't look twice at me for my wardrobe. Stopped caring a few years back.

If I have to dress for an occasion however, I slip on a custom made suit and parades, then stand in front of my watch collection for 10 minutes trying to figure out the classiest watch for the occasion

I have my priorities. When I need to make an impression, I make it. Otherwise, it's a lot of work being high maintenance. I don't know how girls do it...

Lol, I wear ripped jeans, t-shirt, and zip up hoodie. Only ways people can tell I have money is if they look at my wrist, cars I drive, or my boat. But walking down the street, you wouldn't look twice at me for my wardrobe. Stopped caring a few years back.

If I have to dress for an occasion however, I slip on a custom made suit and parades, then stand in front of my watch collection for 10 minutes trying to figure out the classiest watch for the occasion

I have my priorities. When I need to make an impression, I make it. Otherwise, it's a lot of work being high maintenance. I don't know how girls do it...

if you have a lot of money and you never use it, do you really have it?

consider someone who has a trillion+ swiss bank account and forgot the number

I just picked up a pre-owned 15200 Rolex and couldn't be happier. For the money, I get a classic look that can go just as well with a suit or jeans and sneakers. As a number of people already stated in this thread, the depreciation on these watches are minimal. If you search around, you can find a great pre-owned timepiece within your budget that will last you 20+ years.

ever since i got it, i've hit it on door frames, Challenger side mirrors, cubicles and picnic tables.....

FML.....

Scratch on the face, the case or the bracelet? My Sinn is hardened steel and the metal is reasonably hard to scratch, but I have a few regular stainless steel watches that scratch fairly easily. Nearly all quality watches will have a sapphire crystal face (there are nerd exceptions like the Omega Speedmaster) that is very difficult to scratch.

You can get steel wool to remove case or bracelet scratches and there are kits to repair plastic watch face scratches, or you can use Novus or Plexus to reduce the scratch.