O.K....Abhie, I leave it to YOU to answer thepost about the "hidden traps in Orion"--I'm notgoing to touch that one! lol!And as far as the question and answer offer to thefolks in our thread...I just think we will PASS...but feel free to start your own thread!

Danny Wilten has put together a very excellentover-view of ALL OF HIS VIDEOS TO DATE with thisnew one he has just come out with 12/29/12. Itwill tie in the Masters Great Art, The Orion Trapezium,The Heart of the Soul, The Correspondence with "MagicalEgypt and the Human pineal gland...and MORE!So, take a few minutes--approx 40 min.-- andGIVE YOURSELF A TREAT!

[link to www.youtube.com] aBHHIE, PLEASE EMBED THIS VIDEO--MY KEYBOARD ISTOAST AGAIN!Thanks for coming into the thread andplease watch Danny Wilten's other videos whichare all contained in this thread.Have a Happy New Year & be Safe Everyone!Cheers!SK

Quoting: SilentlyKnowing

I'm Sorry, I wasn't trying to take over your thread. Nor do I have the desire to start another thread, when most everything to know is on this one. We talked once before on this thread. Several month ago.I was the one who astral traveled there and we were talking about my vision. I left to go dig in dirt and life threw me for a loop. You probably don't remember.

Upon seeing this thread again and how close you guys are to cracking it, it scared me a little. It's a dangerous path to take and you have to be escorted through. Safety measures have to be put in place first. You all know enough to go there now. And they are aware of us being aware now also.You can easily get hijacked coming back, that's my fear. Unless people know how to put up proper protection and find their guide, then they will just end up hurting themselves in some way. We are too unclean to go alone.

I have information that will explode his theory to new levels and validate it in real life. It's complicated though, and like I said before. I'm not sure if this is the right place to post it.

Quoting: Seraphim 28287396

Oh! I remember your coming in....sorry!But I am a little hazy on what your concernsabout this knowledge being brought forward mightbe. Abhie is actually the one who started thisthread and he's bogged down with work right now.You may wish to be sure to address your questionsto him or to Danny Wilten, who often comes intothe thread. I'd just post a direct question forDanny here--he'll get it in a week or two whenhe checks in. Something, perhaps like: Danny--in your research about the Orion Nebula/OccultSciences have you come across any evidence whichmay indicate we need to be cautious with thisinformation? .....Just sayin'!Thanks for coming in again! Sorry you havehad some negative life-events. Care you sharethem? Maybe they are related in some way toour topic?Cheers!SK

Danny: I am someone similar to you. Your work is excellent, my friend. My knowledge comes from personal experience. I know you have seen the Red Dragon and have found similarities within the religious artwork and that is great. You chose to see further. I am aware that in your research you came across multiple Satanic symbols hidden with the artwork. And you did good by not pointing them out to people, Yet. I know the damage and chaos it would cause. I know you see the God figure and yet the face does not match, you know it is a match as it was supposed to be, but a part of you knows something is not right. The man is Dark. I know you have seen the Green Dragon also.

In the Trapezium, you found a bright spot. It fit the art work you were looking at. Again, I applaud you in your research to uncover what was hidden in plain sight. However, you saw a face in there that did not make sense. It was a mans face with a beard looking left and another smaller one looking straight at you. No artwork showed Him. He was behind some, not all, of the artwork. Channeling.

The things you don't show us, because they would be perceived as crazy notions, are the very things people need to see, and outlined for them. There are other dimensions that exist parallel to ours. We share our Planet with them. And they live through us. Our Earth shares 7 Dimensions. Your mind shares 4. I know you saw the Blue Ape with the red face. What you did not see was the Ape's 2nd self behind him. They share the same eyes. It was a Blue Dragon. The picture that shows a Holy place that you overlaid onto the Nebula is but one part of the story. Behind that scene, Dead center, is a golden Dragon, and the Angels are gathered around him and upon him.There is also the same Man's face looking West within that picture. It is a profile of Him. You need to realize the artwork could never fully describe all dimensions that overlaid each other. But they did great in trying. The information remained intact for people like you to rediscover someday. Again, I applaud your efforts.

What needs to be understood that is, just because we become aware of...how do I say this? Aware of others out there, does not mean they are good and the place they are in is safe for us. To test this, you need to see things as a Cherub would. The beings exist within 4 to 6 dimension. Therefore having 4 different faces. Everything is like that.Even ourselves. Eventually we will take our position amongst the Elders as the Gods we are to become someday.

The information you are uncovering, might be the very thing that unchains something. Please show the bad also, so people are not led to believe everything is safe. It is not safe. You must be escorted there to remain safe. Ask yourself this? Does the Hand of God have a reach limit?Ok, Neither does Satan. But it is a necessary evil to be kept around. He delivers God's wrath to us. We are to pass His tests before we can approach in pureness. It is a learning process we must pass if we are ever to be welcomed into the Palace. I'm not going to go on about religion, but you know what I am saying and the impacts of your findings to humanity. As above, so below. Literally in every essence. Down to the microscopic. I am sorry that you will not get full recognition for your work, and neither will I. That's ok. The people were informed. We did our job. The Religions of the world need to be sat down and showed this stuff. Every religion worshiped a different entity. They were all right. All of those beings do exist.

Please let people be aware of the pitfalls so they are not tempted with something they do not understand could kill them, or worse disrupt something. If you see a bad face, make it aware to the people. If you see things you don't understand, post it and see if someone else can see it. I know, it's impossible to see a Dragon at the Heart of a galaxy, providing it warmth. No one would ever believe, that is why they are not shown anymore. The doubted and killed out of fear. Anyways, I would love to see your work done in a uninhibited vision. Tell it as you see it.

When we are Pure enough, we will be called upon and they will be revealed to you. You can't get there from here. But here is connected to there. So, you are already there. Look around very carefully. They are there in plain sight. You optics have been altered so you cannot detect them any longer. Adjust your depth of vision and you will see them. Force your mind to ignore the scary things and look past them to see the hidden meaning.Look for the eyes. 3 sets of 2. We can talk about the Pyramids if you like, someday.For now it is not that important, what's done is done.

I have to go now. I hope you have a Wonderful New year. Peace and Love to All.

Thank You, Thank you for letting me use your thread to communicate through. And Thank You for Remembering me and Welcoming me.

Danny's works on Hermes was an amazing revelation to me. It helped make sense of the things I see. Like Danny said, when One is ready, the Kaballion will reveal itself.

Sometimes those very words bring things to life.

LeveLeveL:To say something is Truly Level, you must describe both sides.Saying something is level Here, leaves a possibility that it isn't level There. So to Truly Level it, you must level it on Both Sides.

WordSwords:No explanation necessary.

So to be 100% Pure Here, You must be Pure in All Realms, not just Here. You must seek without the intention of taking. To See without being Blinded by what you See, and to not See only That.

Alot of the True Beauty lies in what is Not Seen.

To See There, is to See Everywhere, and Everything in Between.It Matters here, and it Matters There. It's where you are Now that Matters. There is No Anti-Matter. Just Different Locations of the Same Thing.

Maybe you can Help me?A Female Reptilian of long ago...Who is She? I do not know the names, but maybe you can assist me in placing a name. She does look like the Annunaki pics, but not for sure she is them or a different race. I think prior to them....a very, very long time ago.

Danny: I am someone similar to you. Your work is excellent, my friend. My knowledge comes from personal experience. I know you have seen the Red Dragon and have found similarities within the religious artwork and that is great. You chose to see further. I am aware that in your research you came across multiple Satanic symbols hidden with the artwork. And you did good by not pointing them out to people, Yet. I know the damage and chaos it would cause. I know you see the God figure and yet the face does not match, you know it is a match as it was supposed to be, but a part of you knows something is not right. The man is Dark. I know you have seen the Green Dragon also.

In the Trapezium, you found a bright spot. It fit the art work you were looking at. Again, I applaud you in your research to uncover what was hidden in plain sight. However, you saw a face in there that did not make sense. It was a mans face with a beard looking left and another smaller one looking straight at you. No artwork showed Him. He was behind some, not all, of the artwork. Channeling.

The things you don't show us, because they would be perceived as crazy notions, are the very things people need to see, and outlined for them. There are other dimensions that exist parallel to ours. We share our Planet with them. And they live through us. Our Earth shares 7 Dimensions. Your mind shares 4. I know you saw the Blue Ape with the red face. What you did not see was the Ape's 2nd self behind him. They share the same eyes. It was a Blue Dragon. The picture that shows a Holy place that you overlaid onto the Nebula is but one part of the story. Behind that scene, Dead center, is a golden Dragon, and the Angels are gathered around him and upon him.There is also the same Man's face looking West within that picture. It is a profile of Him. You need to realize the artwork could never fully describe all dimensions that overlaid each other. But they did great in trying. The information remained intact for people like you to rediscover someday. Again, I applaud your efforts.

What needs to be understood that is, just because we become aware of...how do I say this? Aware of others out there, does not mean they are good and the place they are in is safe for us. To test this, you need to see things as a Cherub would. The beings exist within 4 to 6 dimension. Therefore having 4 different faces. Everything is like that.Even ourselves. Eventually we will take our position amongst the Elders as the Gods we are to become someday.

The information you are uncovering, might be the very thing that unchains something. Please show the bad also, so people are not led to believe everything is safe. It is not safe. You must be escorted there to remain safe. Ask yourself this? Does the Hand of God have a reach limit?Ok, Neither does Satan. But it is a necessary evil to be kept around. He delivers God's wrath to us. We are to pass His tests before we can approach in pureness. It is a learning process we must pass if we are ever to be welcomed into the Palace. I'm not going to go on about religion, but you know what I am saying and the impacts of your findings to humanity. As above, so below. Literally in every essence. Down to the microscopic. I am sorry that you will not get full recognition for your work, and neither will I. That's ok. The people were informed. We did our job. The Religions of the world need to be sat down and showed this stuff. Every religion worshiped a different entity. They were all right. All of those beings do exist.

Please let people be aware of the pitfalls so they are not tempted with something they do not understand could kill them, or worse disrupt something. If you see a bad face, make it aware to the people. If you see things you don't understand, post it and see if someone else can see it. I know, it's impossible to see a Dragon at the Heart of a galaxy, providing it warmth. No one would ever believe, that is why they are not shown anymore. The doubted and killed out of fear. Anyways, I would love to see your work done in a uninhibited vision. Tell it as you see it.

When we are Pure enough, we will be called upon and they will be revealed to you. You can't get there from here. But here is connected to there. So, you are already there. Look around very carefully. They are there in plain sight. You optics have been altered so you cannot detect them any longer. Adjust your depth of vision and you will see them. Force your mind to ignore the scary things and look past them to see the hidden meaning.Look for the eyes. 3 sets of 2. We can talk about the Pyramids if you like, someday.For now it is not that important, what's done is done.

I have to go now. I hope you have a Wonderful New year. Peace and Love to All.

Quoting: Seraphim 28287396

Hi Seraphim, Sorry couldn't reply to you earlier, but I can see SK was on it. One of is here, so the thread is always managed.

Wow! All I can say is thats some powerful stuff you have there! By the looks of it, you are miles ahead of Danny Wilten in this, the mystery of the Orion Nebula.

Do you have a blog, a website, where you can take us through this a bit slow and in more detail? It would be even magnificent if you have written a book or even a kindle edition. Anything you have would mightily help us.

I can just about begin to sense the depth of this subject now. Its huuuuge! I guess this whole thing is as natural as it comes. I mean that all life forms are connected to the Universe, and we share dimensions with others in a sort of a meta-physical hierarchy. Could this be the meaning of the one seeing eye within the triangle? Im guessing the single eye within the triangle actually shows one of our eyes being shared by the dimensional entities up in the Orion nebula. Am I right? The right way to grasp this sharing of the eye would be to imagine the vesica-piscis. Dimensions shared.

Thank you for taking the time to come into this thread.Your feedback and inputs are indeed valuable. I have about a zillion +1 questions ! Lol.Danny, please give us your feedback on Seraphims inputs?Thank you .

P.S> SK, what do you think about the shared dimensions. Are we on the threshold of even begining to understand this ......(God! WHAT DO I call this?) ....'phenomenon' ????

(I'm male, mid-40's, and live and work in India as a designer. Writing is a passion of mine, as is painting. My avatar represents my protagonist against the Illuminati -a female warrior.)

Hello, and Sorry.I get my feelings hurt easily. So I just leave quietly.

I was so happy for everyone to be learning and finally Seeing what is out there. I don't want to influence anyone with my views or steer them in a different direction. But I didn't want to see people flocking to an unknown charted place, not yet. Not till it's proven safe for us. I found the best path is one of self discovery of the world around us. Each new finding is an amazing act on it's own. Like when Danny realized...he had made a definite match. That must have been a wonderful feeling for Him! You can do it too.

I don't have a website that pertains to this, but I wish I did. I am great with computers but know nothing about making videos or websites. My best qualities are being a carpenter and fixing things for people. Haven't made any attempts to disclose info. Still processing it and making sure it's safe to be seen. My work doesn't have anything to do with the Nebulae. It's a discovery that would shake the foundations we walk on, if it isn't handled carefully. I am awaiting to hear from Danny. Hopefully he can help me remember some things and I can help him in his work.

I want to show some pictures, but I can't just yet. Soon though, hopefully.

We should all, including myself, go back through Danny's videos and start looking for faces within the artwork and within the Nebulae. They don't have to match. Something that doesn't make sense, will, once the rest of it is seen. I have found they come in 3'S. I had only took a quick peek when I first wrote you. I saw that much within 5 minutes.

As you zoom in on the Nebulae, look for the eyes in random spaces. At different angles, rotate and zoom. Adjust your vision accordingly. Relax your eyes and look into it as if it was a picture in time. It is just that. Zooming out, keep looking and the eyes will take on a new face. When you see one face, realize there are 2 others of the same person. Not always the same form though.Sometimes one person can have 3 different forms within them.

You will see many of Holy Faces and many of Scary Faces and faces you don't know what to make of. That's OK...our goal isn't to understand the meaning, not until we can See it All. Then we can start trying to make sense of the true meaning. To know if something is truly Good, all 3 sides must agree. If one Bad is hiding behind the good, then it isn't Good and must then be seen further to identify the nature of the Bad. I find that finding the Good is much harder than finding the Bad.

Michelangelo's Moses is a fantastic example. A great masterpiece that used light from different angles to show different expressions. Beautiful work. A true Visionary.You have to read about it first then apply what you know now. But here's the hidden beauty of it all. A little Dragon sits on his head. It is a Baby! Now you understand why he is depicted as having 2 small horns. Cute Huh?You will have to search for just the right picture and angle to see it. Keep looking and you will find it. It's darn near impossible to see it at first. Took me forever to see it and then, I was like...Awww how cute!

A great video to watch in addition to Danny's work is Inner Worlds and Outer Worlds. Combine them and take a fresh look at the Church's Artwork and Nebulae.I look for Red and Black. Clear out and Identify the hidden bad in the shadows. Profiles are the first indicator that something else is there hiding too.Then I can see if whats left is really Good or not. Most of the time it is good, but not always. Some pictures I cannot even stand to look at. Subliminally packed. Hidden in plain sight. Literally, in plain sight. Doesn't even bother to hide, because it knows we can't see it.

Hi AbhieSorry I forgot to comment on the third eye being in the nebulae. To be honest, yes I think the third eye is part of a gateway to there. Definitely related,no denying that, but not to just there. Our consciousness is projected everywhere. Even back down to us and below us.

I once saw a vortex projected out in front of me, leading me to my destination. About 20 ft long and about 1 ft in diameter, curving around obstacles like a wormhole. That was while I was fully awake. It was like it was racing me there?

Only saw it once though, felt it many times but couldn't see it again. Now I just accept it as being there.

I used to practice walking up to walls blindfolded like Hellen Keller taught her student how to see. You feel a pressure and a tingle. Pretty cool once you get it down. Just don't rearrange the furniture! Can't see that well yet...LOL

The green area changes with the seasons, in springtime it stretches out down south for several miles and miles. If you look at satelite images from other time periods the whole area is different from how it looks in the video. Guess how it looked in ancient times. The whole fucking region was probably green......

Danny: I am someone similar to you. Your work is excellent, my friend. My knowledge comes from personal experience. I know you have seen the Red Dragon and have found similarities within the religious artwork and that is great. You chose to see further. I am aware that in your research you came across multiple Satanic symbols hidden with the artwork. And you did good by not pointing them out to people, Yet. I know the damage and chaos it would cause. I know you see the God figure and yet the face does not match, you know it is a match as it was supposed to be, but a part of you knows something is not right. The man is Dark. I know you have seen the Green Dragon also.

In the Trapezium, you found a bright spot. It fit the art work you were looking at. Again, I applaud you in your research to uncover what was hidden in plain sight. However, you saw a face in there that did not make sense. It was a mans face with a beard looking left and another smaller one looking straight at you. No artwork showed Him. He was behind some, not all, of the artwork. Channeling.

The things you don't show us, because they would be perceived as crazy notions, are the very things people need to see, and outlined for them. There are other dimensions that exist parallel to ours. We share our Planet with them. And they live through us. Our Earth shares 7 Dimensions. Your mind shares 4. I know you saw the Blue Ape with the red face. What you did not see was the Ape's 2nd self behind him. They share the same eyes. It was a Blue Dragon. The picture that shows a Holy place that you overlaid onto the Nebula is but one part of the story. Behind that scene, Dead center, is a golden Dragon, and the Angels are gathered around him and upon him.There is also the same Man's face looking West within that picture. It is a profile of Him. You need to realize the artwork could never fully describe all dimensions that overlaid each other. But they did great in trying. The information remained intact for people like you to rediscover someday. Again, I applaud your efforts.

What needs to be understood that is, just because we become aware of...how do I say this? Aware of others out there, does not mean they are good and the place they are in is safe for us. To test this, you need to see things as a Cherub would. The beings exist within 4 to 6 dimension. Therefore having 4 different faces. Everything is like that.Even ourselves. Eventually we will take our position amongst the Elders as the Gods we are to become someday.

The information you are uncovering, might be the very thing that unchains something. Please show the bad also, so people are not led to believe everything is safe. It is not safe. You must be escorted there to remain safe. Ask yourself this? Does the Hand of God have a reach limit?Ok, Neither does Satan. But it is a necessary evil to be kept around. He delivers God's wrath to us. We are to pass His tests before we can approach in pureness. It is a learning process we must pass if we are ever to be welcomed into the Palace. I'm not going to go on about religion, but you know what I am saying and the impacts of your findings to humanity. As above, so below. Literally in every essence. Down to the microscopic. I am sorry that you will not get full recognition for your work, and neither will I. That's ok. The people were informed. We did our job. The Religions of the world need to be sat down and showed this stuff. Every religion worshiped a different entity. They were all right. All of those beings do exist.

Please let people be aware of the pitfalls so they are not tempted with something they do not understand could kill them, or worse disrupt something. If you see a bad face, make it aware to the people. If you see things you don't understand, post it and see if someone else can see it. I know, it's impossible to see a Dragon at the Heart of a galaxy, providing it warmth. No one would ever believe, that is why they are not shown anymore. The doubted and killed out of fear. Anyways, I would love to see your work done in a uninhibited vision. Tell it as you see it.

When we are Pure enough, we will be called upon and they will be revealed to you. You can't get there from here. But here is connected to there. So, you are already there. Look around very carefully. They are there in plain sight. You optics have been altered so you cannot detect them any longer. Adjust your depth of vision and you will see them. Force your mind to ignore the scary things and look past them to see the hidden meaning.Look for the eyes. 3 sets of 2. We can talk about the Pyramids if you like, someday.For now it is not that important, what's done is done.

I have to go now. I hope you have a Wonderful New year. Peace and Love to All.

Quoting: Seraphim 28287396

Hi Seraphim, Sorry couldn't reply to you earlier, but I can see SK was on it. One of is here, so the thread is always managed.

Wow! All I can say is thats some powerful stuff you have there! By the looks of it, you are miles ahead of Danny Wilten in this, the mystery of the Orion Nebula.

Do you have a blog, a website, where you can take us through this a bit slow and in more detail? It would be even magnificent if you have written a book or even a kindle edition. Anything you have would mightily help us.

I can just about begin to sense the depth of this subject now. Its huuuuge! I guess this whole thing is as natural as it comes. I mean that all life forms are connected to the Universe, and we share dimensions with others in a sort of a meta-physical hierarchy. Could this be the meaning of the one seeing eye within the triangle? Im guessing the single eye within the triangle actually shows one of our eyes being shared by the dimensional entities up in the Orion nebula. Am I right? The right way to grasp this sharing of the eye would be to imagine the vesica-piscis. Dimensions shared.

Thank you for taking the time to come into this thread.Your feedback and inputs are indeed valuable. I have about a zillion +1 questions ! Lol.Danny, please give us your feedback on Seraphims inputs?Thank you .

P.S> SK, what do you think about the shared dimensions. Are we on the threshold of even begining to understand this ......(God! WHAT DO I call this?) ....'phenomenon' ????

Quoting: abhie

Hey Abhie!Not to take anyone's attention off THIS THREAD...(Sorry, Abhie!!)...but Seraphim is NOT going to get the answers he so urgently needs on GLP. Sorry. Danny W. doesn't come into the thread that often.In the 7 months we've had this thread running, Ithink I have seen him comment 3 times....(Yeah..bummer--not sure why that is!!) Anyways, Abhie,in all fairness to Seraphim, my suggestion would be for S. to click on ANY OF THE WILTEN VIDEOS on this thread--that comes from Wilten's own UTUBEChannel. He is the one you really need to beasking specific questions of, and there is a"feedback" box/option on that channel. Abhie andI make our own comments about what Danny W.presents in his videos, but we can't really giveyou the author's own interpretation, can we.PLEASE go there and see if he responds, ok?Other than THAT RECOMMENDATION, you guys,I am going to--in all humility-allow Danny toprovide the labels to this as he wishes.

I've said before that Wilten's work is byfar the most INSPIRING discovery I have comeacross in decades...but half the time I am looking at this material I'm amazed and even overwhelmed. It doesn't in the least bother me that I know that thesubject is beyond me. But I am willing to LEARN!

We have mentioned this before in the thread, Abhie,but I think that in light of our guest, here, itdeserves comment again: Wilten has NOT given a"bottomline" for what his research means...nor has he offered us CONCRETE INFO on his discovery!!He has ALWAYS been very cautious when he says anythingdefinite about "this collective God-consciousness" asa "PERHAPS" and "MAYBE WE ARE SEEING....." etc.I really don't believe Wilten is suggesting thatanyone "will themselves" to Orion at the moment oftheir death--nor is he attempting to use hiscorrelations to be a backdrop for someone's currentreligion. He is being very wise about this, sincewe don't understand fully what he showing us! Andthat is O.K., too.AS FAR AS I HAVE SEEN...THIS WHOLE THING IS"SHOW AND TELL." That it. He points a finger andshows the pics....that's all. Question: Have you purchased Wilten's e-book?You can find the info at www.OrionintheVatican.com.I can't afford it right now (Sorry, Danny...)I would guess that a SIGNIFICANT ANALYSIS CAN BEFOUND IN THAT $10 EBOOK. If you have gone aheadand purchased the book--DOES WILTEN MAKE ANY CLAIMSTO HAVE A "BOTTOMLINE" for this discovery? Let usknow, please!In truth, you guys, We don't have a frame of reference to even put words to fully describe what Wilten hasdiscovered!! Yes, words like "phenomenon" are a goodstart. I really wish that Danny W. would participatemore in the thread...geeze Louise, we have over60,000 hits between our two threads and he hasonly commented a few times and even when HE DIDCOMMENT...his words were very limited.What's up with that?

Maybe Danny even has trouble commenting himself,as this is TOTALLY NEW MATERIAL! Wonder if Einsteinhad to sit down with his fellow mathematicians tocome up with what to name his theory of relativity!??Funny. We'll see what happens--we are AT THEBEGINNING OF A NEW THRESHOLD HERE!

I have to say (and this is MY OPINION ONLY...)that I would rather NOT see a discussionon the thread as to the NEGATIVE images that Seraphimis wishing Wilten would speak to. Wilten may NOTagree, in fact, that what Seraphim or anyone elsecoming into the thread is seeing is Wilten's "take"on it, himeself. One of the real DRAWS TO THE TOPIC IS THE BEAUTY AND POSITIVE ENERGIES WILTEN HAS FOUND IN ORION!! Why endanger that todiscuss something we really do NOT understand yet?

There is time for all of this to come out. And,ofcourse, Iacknowledge that there probably ARE someimages Wilten has come across which could beinterpretted as "dark". But, truly, wedon't have to rush in to find DEMONS AND EVIL SPIRITS--and what is the "pay-off" for looking for thatanyways? Isn't there enough negative in the worldaround us right now for 1,000 lifetimes?!mAYBE WE CAN GET A "HEADS-UP" FROM John Lennon when he said: "....Let it be."Thanks for the in-put, though!Cheers!SK

This might possibly be my last post here. As for some, that will be a pleasant doing. For others it will be a lonely sadness. It is of no fault of your own. You are correct in not rushing in to see demons. Very good. But it is here where they lay. To deny it, is to put yourself in danger. This allows for deception.There is so much more to this than anyone can ever imagine.

In my attempts to convey a message and seek help, it was denied. Blown off in conceit as a random person who could offer no additional info. Some are blinded by what they see, and cannot see past their own discoveries. Their own idea of how things are to be, are the very things that blind them.

No offense was taken. In fact it was expected.Such a analytical mind only chases objects, instead of the life forms that comprise the objects whole.

When you only chase physical objects, you will only find your tail. To seek Form from which the discovery comes from the abstract spiritual artwork, is to miss the entirety of it's true nature.

The answers I sought have been found. I cannot warn you enough, do not go into the light.Light attracts the Moth to the flame. Here is where you will get burnt.

I am sorry, but I can no longer follow this path with you.I am in search of my Father, and he is not where is being depicted. Everyone recognizes a familiar face. I have not seen that yet. He is not there.My search must continue on elsewhere.Learn from him and expand upon it..I have left enough clues as to this. Even showed you how to See yourself. It is up to you now to see for yourself, and hopefully reunite with your Father also. Archon lies within and around the Light. Be safe in your travels. Have faith in your own abilities. God Bless you All

This might possibly be my last post here. As for some, that will be a pleasant doing. For others it will be a lonely sadness. It is of no fault of your own. You are correct in not rushing in to see demons. Very good. But it is here where they lay. To deny it, is to put yourself in danger. This allows for deception.There is so much more to this than anyone can ever imagine.

In my attempts to convey a message and seek help, it was denied. Blown off in conceit as a random person who could offer no additional info. Some are blinded by what they see, and cannot see past their own discoveries. Their own idea of how things are to be, are the very things that blind them.

No offense was taken. In fact it was expected.Such a analytical mind only chases objects, instead of the life forms that comprise the objects whole.

When you only chase physical objects, you will only find your tail. To seek Form from which the discovery comes from the abstract spiritual artwork, is to miss the entirety of it's true nature.

The answers I sought have been found. I cannot warn you enough, do not go into the light.Light attracts the Moth to the flame. Here is where you will get burnt.

I am sorry, but I can no longer follow this path with you.I am in search of my Father, and he is not where is being depicted. Everyone recognizes a familiar face. I have not seen that yet. He is not there.My search must continue on elsewhere.Learn from him and expand upon it..I have left enough clues as to this. Even showed you how to See yourself. It is up to you now to see for yourself, and hopefully reunite with your Father also. Archon lies within and around the Light. Be safe in your travels. Have faith in your own abilities. God Bless you All

Quoting: Seraphim 28287396

I am sorry you feel that way, Seraphim...All I could do was to suggest you go DIRECTLY toDanny Wilten's UTUBE Channel for answers tospecific questions. Danny has continued to beon a positive slant with his interpretationsand, for me, I welcome that tact. Maybe it isbecause I have had so many negative experienceswith people who claim to be "living for christ"and then only want to talk about the Devil! Itis a very odd preoccupation with many folks.You have NOT been shut-down, Seraphim, but yourefuse to offer us any of your own backgroundinfo for us to take you seriously. Saying thatyou know all of these things from "my experience"doesn't really give us much! Anyways, take thesuggestion and go directly to Danny Wilten foryour debate--we can't pull a rabbit out of a hat here, for you, and discuss the "Demons ofOrion"...Wilten has not provided such imagesand frankly, I'm glad he hasn't gone into thatsinkhole! Hope you find someone you can talkto and your sentiments for our being "blessed" is lovely, thank you. Peace be with you also.Cheers!SK

This is Danny Wilten's latest post on his Utubechannel. There is a "feedback" box on the lowerright hand side of the video which anyone cansend questions to Danny about their own interestsand interpretations on his 2-year plus research.

Hey guys. It's Danny checking in. I apologize for not commenting on the threads that much. I will try to get over here more since GLP is not blocking my IP that I can see any more (fingers crossed).

This is a copy from the Leonardo da Vinci thread. As stated there I am very careful about the wording I use to describe what I am seeing because of how touchy the subject is. I am not partial to any spiritual teaching or religion. I have found truth in all of them. In fact, it has required me to read the texts from many, listen to masters such as Manly P. Hall and Graham Hancock. It has required that I look at the parallels across as many religious and ancient texts possible to help guide me. Here are the things I do know:

1. These are more than just patterns. Whoever painted these depictions of the Orion Nebula did it consistently over time. The detail is such that it should be a no brainer when you split up the images into sections. This is why recently I have started to show a grid system so you can compare C2 and C2 (for example), and take samples in various areas.

2. These artists knew the detail of the Orion Nebula in various light frequencies such as infrared and all the way back to ancient Sumeria where we see the winged disk. The very same one clearly depicted with adjustments of contrast and brightness to bring out highly detailed hieroglyphics shown in the center of the Trapezium in infrared.

3. These artists knew the detail of the Orion Nebula to such high detail there is no possible way they could have painted it by using any other means then some form of altered consciousness. The level of detail rivals Hubble and Spitzer.

4. The glory you see with the angels surrounding the tetragramnmaton or the holy dove is how I found the vortex in Nov 2011. NASA confirmed this Nov 2012. This yields credibility to what was found in the cathedrals.

5. In almost all paintings, either Jesus is in the Trapezium of the Orion Nebula, or the Christogram (IHS) is replaced with the Orion Nebula.

6. Each one of these various paintings yields a clue. For example.. "The Creation of Adam" gives the clue of the mind of God reaching out and touching Adam like a synaptic spark. Similarly, we see in "The Conversion Of Saul" by Michelangelo in 1542 that the Trapezium area is beaming light to Saul and blinding him for "THREE DAYS" -- three days is tied to resurrection. Three days is also the time the Egyptians were placed in the dark in the great pyramid during initiation. The resurrection is also associated to the Mayans three hearthstones where the Orion Nebula (the fire in the hearth) is supposed to be resurrected (The maize god) ... The Maize god is also tied to Osiris. Osiris is a resurrection god. I believe the Orion Nebula is tied to resurrection in some way. In a deeper sense, I believe something is going to happen associated with that vortex in the center of the Trapezium that causes higher consciousness. I cannot nail it yet. I have many clues.

7. The eye in the triangle... its a vortex.... lose the illuminati fear. Its a vortex and geometry surrounding it. Look at any buddha, look at the eyes in the center of the triangle... they swirl into the middle like the eye of the storm. Again, we have God/Jesus/Osiris, take your pic being associated with a vortex.

8. The universe (at least this area of the cosmos) IN FACT DOES communicate in hieroglyphics. It uses symbolism to depict meaning and overlaps the hieroglyphs in such a way as to allow one to pick the story of choice. I know this is vague. For example, in infrared I can see the winged disk clearly and some figure placing his hand on the head of another. I nailed this figure floating in the center of the Orion Nebula Infrared as Salvador Dali "Ascension Of Christ" -- Meaning? Well... in my opinion, the winged disk, represents the top of Hermes staff.. the top chakra, and wisdom. It appears to be communicating that christ consciousness is achieved through wisdom. In the full color version, I can clearly see the inner part of the brain that includes the lateral ventricles, the optic track, and the bright spot (far left) which represents the pineal gland (Thanks Michelangelo). Since this part of the brain is the pineal gland and since in the center of that trapezium is the vortex, then I draw that there may be a correspondence between the vortex and the pineal gland.

Genesis 32:30King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

Then we compare this area to Egypt's Nile Delta region where it overlays nicely down to even man made development (which I cannot explain but it does - "The universe is mental"?). We know that the Egyptians understood the universe as man from the microcosm to the macrocosm. Man is made in God's image comes to mind. The Nile Delta represents the Trapezium and therefore the center of the brain. We can see that the Nile moves from south to north with the same curvature of the spine. The water flows north possibly depicting metaphysically Kundalini.

It was EL GRECO that showed me to place the brain on top of the Nile Delta.. where the brain is in his painting called Mount Sinai (where Moses talked with God). Interestingly when you compare the cavity of the brain stem as it climbs into base of the skull it is the same pattern. THIS is the trinity pattern I keep referring to. Its everywhere and in many of the paintings. It shows Jesus standing on top of the same "V" shape clouds representing the center of the brain. It is the area where the spinal cord moves into the base of the skull. EL GRECO could not have been more correct because interestingly, the pyramids of Giza are located in the same area as the pyramids of the brain. Decussation of the pyramids is when the nerve signals cross as they enter the skull. The pyramids are located exactly in the same area. And, just like the nervous system, once decussation happens, they branch into the right and left hemispheres just like you see the water doing in the Nile Delta. This is no coincidence. The Egyptians did this on purpose and they were showing us what the Nile Delta represented. Now back to the Pineal Gland. Osiris hieroglyph is an eye and a throne or an eye in a tent according to E.A. Wallis Budge. This is where the ancient Egyptian texts help us understand once again the correspondence of the Pineal Gland to the center of the Nile Delta (Garden of Eden and most fertile area of the world), and to the Trapezium. It should also be noted that the Nile Delta is the center of the world geocentrically and the center of all land masses on the planet.

As Jacob told us the name of the place where he saw God face to face... so did the ancients. This place was called Busiris. The ancient texts say that the soul of Osiris and Ra met and embraced in Busiris. This ancient city is located in the center of the Nile Delta. This was a clue of correspondence because when the brain is places like it should be on the Nile Delta, this ancient city is located right where the pineal gland is. The pyramid was said to be a construction of Osiris. Many of you have seen the human skull and the brain inside the pyramid showing the so called queen and kings chamber representing places in the brain. When we overlay the the image of the base of the pyramid as the center point of a circle enclosing the nile delta, the kings chamber happens to be right where the pineal gland is on earth. The encircled region is also 1/10 the diameter of the moon (216 Miles). It corresponds exactly to where the vortex in in the Trapezium.

9. The axis mundi (also cosmic axis, world axis, world pillar and center of the world) is a symbol representing the center of the world where the heaven (sky) connects with the earth. Different cultures represent the axis mundi by varied symbols such as a natural object (a mountain, a tree, a vine, a stalk, a column of smoke or fire) or of a product of human manufacture (a staff, a tower, a ladder, a staircase, a maypole, a cross, a steeple, a rope, a totem pole, a pillar, a spire). [link to www.newworldencyclopedia.org] --- The Nile Delta is the Axis Mundi. The ladder is referred to in the pyramid texts and at the top of the ladder is Orion. This is a metaphysical way of showing progress as we climb the ladder going through the planets where Saturn was the last planet (meaning one had achieved ultimate inner spiritual balance with material adjustments - As described by Manly Hall). This ladder can be found all across cultures. Metaphysically, the Orion Nebula is the top of the ladder where Christ is and in the human body it signifies moving through the planets much like you see on a Qabala tree of life. Watch: Manly Hall - "Jacob's ladder to the Stars" ... interestingly you will find that Christ and Osiris are interchanged in his lecture because they represent the same thing... the resurrection and rebirth one goes through in attaining higher consioucness. The ancients believed that once they died they became a star in Orion... Interestingly it was not until 1611 that we discovered the Orion Nebula.

10. There has been a definite cover up of the Orion Nebula. The Mayan's knew about it before telescopes were invented yet even Galileo missed it for some odd reason and so did others even losing the records of its discovery for decades. "Orion Nebula Where in History Is It?" - Harvard

The Mayan Popol Vuh that mentions the three hearthstones of creation and the orion nebula before Europe discovered it was found hidden in Guatemala in a catholic church altar no less.

11. The ladder was also seen by another person now totally discredited due to the infiltration by the Jesuits into the SDA. Ellen White also gave a vision moving through the planets and after Saturn she reached the Opening heavens (then called the Orion Nebula) ... the vision she had given was the same account...just worded slightly differently. When we look at the parallels across culture she indeed did see the same thing. There have been lies about how many moons she said Saturn had but it can be found in older writings she mentioned seven... which was what they had known about at the time. It all does not really matter though as she described the same ladder as Mohammed and Jacob and the Egyptians... at least with two of those we know the end of the ladder was Orion... more specifically the Orion Nebula... and Jacob let us know it was associated to the pineal gland.

In addition Ellen White said this (think vortex in the center of orion nebula)... my gut says she knew something:

The Shaking Of The Powers Of HeavenDecember 16, 1848, the Lord gave me a view of the shaking of the powers of the heavens. I saw that when the Lord said “heaven,” in giving the signs recorded by Matthew, Mark, and Luke, He meant heaven, and when He said “earth,” He meant earth. The powers of heaven are the sun, moon, and stars. They rule in the heavens. The powers of earth are those that rule on the earth. The powers of heaven will be shaken at the voice of God. Then the sun, moon, and stars will be moved out of their places. They will not pass away, but be shaken by the voice of God. {CET 111.1}

*** Dark heavy clouds came up, and clashed against each other. The atmosphere parted and rolled back; then we could look up through the open space in Orion, whence came the voice of God. The holy city will come down through that open space. I saw that the powers of earth are now being shaken, and that events come in order. War, and rumors of war, sword, famine, and pestilence are first to shake the powers of earth, then the voice of God will shake the sun, moon, and stars, and this earth also. I saw that the shaking of the powers in Europe is not, as some teach, the shaking of the powers of heaven, but it is the shaking of the angry nations. ***

I think something is going to happen with that so called "black hole" or vortex...

Rev: 1:13King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

(I think the above is the Orion Constellation. Alan Watts tells us "The Son Of" means ... in the likeness of... alike... similar... Since the Orion Nebula represents us on a cosmic scale this would be true.)

I have opinions on other things but I do not wish to tread there yet... It is important to remember that there is usually a physical to metaphysical correspondence as well when we see things. For example, the seven stars Jesus holds in his right hand could be the Trapezium stars but represent metaphysically the seven chakras. I say this because when we look for the interlocking star of david (A torus or vortex), it usually has seven stars within it... since we see Jesus as this vortex (where we see god face to face) there is a physical to metaphysical correspondence.

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If there is anything I have learned on this journey to help everyone it is that if you will take a little time to go across culture you will see the same stories. So many wars and so much fighting because we let the church dictate to us their interpretation of these stories. With a little due diligence, we see the parallels and see the stories are the same. Parables can be interpreted in more way than one and this transpires across cultures... take the ladder for example... same story... across culture and even back to the ancients. The church has literally scared the crap out of people declaring everything is evil except for what THEY want you to believe. There is nothing in the bible or any other text that prohibits you from interpreting things differently. If we could see our similarities rather than our differences this world would be a much better place.

Seraphim & Danny, thank you very much for those inputs. Very valuable yes.

Sad to see you go Seraphim. Maybe you could start off a parallel thread on this topic, so that would your focus thread. Im really interested in hearing you elaborate on your theories, so hope you do launch that thread. THis kind of stuff you reallly need to give it to the people so we can develop it from here.Please let us know here with a link to your thread if you do launch it. THanks.

Hey Danny, nice to hear from you. Thank you for taking the time off to post here on GLP. Now that the thread is really growing, I think it would be nice if you could regularly keep this thread updated.

(I'm male, mid-40's, and live and work in India as a designer. Writing is a passion of mine, as is painting. My avatar represents my protagonist against the Illuminati -a female warrior.)

Danny: I am someone similar to you. Your work is excellent, my friend. My knowledge comes from personal experience. I know you have seen the Red Dragon and have found similarities within the religious artwork and that is great. You chose to see further. I am aware that in your research you came across multiple Satanic symbols hidden with the artwork. And you did good by not pointing them out to people, Yet. I know the damage and chaos it would cause. I know you see the God figure and yet the face does not match, you know it is a match as it was supposed to be, but a part of you knows something is not right. The man is Dark. I know you have seen the Green Dragon also.

In the Trapezium, you found a bright spot. It fit the art work you were looking at. Again, I applaud you in your research to uncover what was hidden in plain sight. However, you saw a face in there that did not make sense. It was a mans face with a beard looking left and another smaller one looking straight at you. No artwork showed Him. He was behind some, not all, of the artwork. Channeling.

The things you don't show us, because they would be perceived as crazy notions, are the very things people need to see, and outlined for them. There are other dimensions that exist parallel to ours. We share our Planet with them. And they live through us. Our Earth shares 7 Dimensions. Your mind shares 4. I know you saw the Blue Ape with the red face. What you did not see was the Ape's 2nd self behind him. They share the same eyes. It was a Blue Dragon. The picture that shows a Holy place that you overlaid onto the Nebula is but one part of the story. Behind that scene, Dead center, is a golden Dragon, and the Angels are gathered around him and upon him.There is also the same Man's face looking West within that picture. It is a profile of Him. You need to realize the artwork could never fully describe all dimensions that overlaid each other. But they did great in trying. The information remained intact for people like you to rediscover someday. Again, I applaud your efforts.

What needs to be understood that is, just because we become aware of...how do I say this? Aware of others out there, does not mean they are good and the place they are in is safe for us. To test this, you need to see things as a Cherub would. The beings exist within 4 to 6 dimension. Therefore having 4 different faces. Everything is like that.Even ourselves. Eventually we will take our position amongst the Elders as the Gods we are to become someday.

The information you are uncovering, might be the very thing that unchains something. Please show the bad also, so people are not led to believe everything is safe. It is not safe. You must be escorted there to remain safe. Ask yourself this? Does the Hand of God have a reach limit?Ok, Neither does Satan. But it is a necessary evil to be kept around. He delivers God's wrath to us. We are to pass His tests before we can approach in pureness. It is a learning process we must pass if we are ever to be welcomed into the Palace. I'm not going to go on about religion, but you know what I am saying and the impacts of your findings to humanity. As above, so below. Literally in every essence. Down to the microscopic. I am sorry that you will not get full recognition for your work, and neither will I. That's ok. The people were informed. We did our job. The Religions of the world need to be sat down and showed this stuff. Every religion worshiped a different entity. They were all right. All of those beings do exist.

Please let people be aware of the pitfalls so they are not tempted with something they do not understand could kill them, or worse disrupt something. If you see a bad face, make it aware to the people. If you see things you don't understand, post it and see if someone else can see it. I know, it's impossible to see a Dragon at the Heart of a galaxy, providing it warmth. No one would ever believe, that is why they are not shown anymore. The doubted and killed out of fear. Anyways, I would love to see your work done in a uninhibited vision. Tell it as you see it.

When we are Pure enough, we will be called upon and they will be revealed to you. You can't get there from here. But here is connected to there. So, you are already there. Look around very carefully. They are there in plain sight. You optics have been altered so you cannot detect them any longer. Adjust your depth of vision and you will see them. Force your mind to ignore the scary things and look past them to see the hidden meaning.Look for the eyes. 3 sets of 2. We can talk about the Pyramids if you like, someday.For now it is not that important, what's done is done.

I have to go now. I hope you have a Wonderful New year. Peace and Love to All.

Quoting: Seraphim 28287396

"I am aware that in your research you came across multiple Satanic symbols hidden with the artwork." -- LOL oh really? what symbols are "Satanic" and please define "satanic" other than its opposite "not of god." No sir/maam... they are simply symbols. They represent information that tell us about the universe. Isn't satanic really just a matter of your opinion anyway? And if not yours then who's? The church? We all know that the church has consistently pointed to everything being evil except what they want you to see. This is done to keep people half conscious. If I had gone with that programming I would have still been half conscious. So thanks, but no thanks as I do not align with the terminology "satanic symbol" as it is ambiguous and denotes nothing specific other than to say it is satanic. If you are referring to the eye in the triangle which has also been called satanic (by mistake), then you would know that this represents a vortex and geometry as it can be found on "satanic buddhas" across the world just like the "Nazi swastika" can also be found on "Nazi Buddhas" all over the world. LOL!! Satanic in the Jewish encyclopedia simply means "one who puts obstacles in the way".. therefore by the use of fear calling said symbolism satanic, that in itself is satanic as it puts obstacles in the way of conscious understanding and its exploration thereof. No offense, but condemnation without investigation of said symbolism is exactly what religious organizations want and does nothing but unconscious fearful people.

"For everyone out there... yes... you can explore symbolism and you should so you will know how you have been lied to for so long and lose the fear!"

"Please show the bad also" - I am sorry but we are communicating on two different wavelengths. What I seem to be hearing from you over and over is bad/good/evil/satanic...yada yada. Since you are very familiar with the Kybalion then you know that hermetics teaches us they are one and the same but lean towards either side of polarity.

If I see a happy face you may see it as an evil smiling face, if I see a sad face you may see an angry face. The research I perform is not based on the ink blot test. What we are doing is pattern matching and then referring to what we see as clues from the ancients. When I do dare go down the "ink blot" road, it is because it is extremely high detailed. However, this does not always mean that it is anything more than data. The Orion nebula is highly holographic and more so than any nebula I have seen. But I also understand what the ancients knew about the nature of the universe and that is that man is the measure of all things micro vs. macro... when we look into the Orion Nebula we are looking into the mind of a kind of cosmic man... these are not always separate objects to stamp good and evil on. The symbolism is hieroglyphic and tells us more about ourselves.

"You optics have been altered so you cannot detect them any longer." - My optics are just fine thank you. I do not stack images and symbolism into categories of good and evil or bad. That is a lower consciousness act of programming. Your programming is not allowing you to see beyond the "knowledge of good and evil" ... hence you are swung by that pendulum and cannot rise to a higher state of consciousness. May I suggest performing neutralization to break your rhythm?

"Rhythm may be neutralized by an application of the Art of Polarization." — The Kybalion.

Hermetists hold that the Principle of Rhythm manifests on the Mental Plane as well as on the Physical Plane, and that the bewildering succession of moods, feelings, emotions, and other mental states, are due to the backward and forward swing of the mental pendulum, which carries us from one extreme of feeling to the other. The Hermetists also teach that the Law of Neutralization enables one, to a great extent, to overcome the operation of Rhythm in consciousness. As we have explained, there is a Higher Plane of Consciousness, as well as the ordinary Lower Plane, and the Master by rising mentally to the higher Plane causes the swing of the mental pendulum to manifest on the Lower Plane, and he, dwelling on his higher Plane, escapes the consciousness of the swing backward.

The center of the trapezium where the vortex is and represents the Pineal Gland physically, and metaphysically represents a singularity and meeting god face to face.

Genesis 32:30American King James VersionAnd Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

Chapter 17 Book of coming forth by Day (Book of the Dead), The soul of Osiris finds the soul of Re in Djedu:The ba of Re and the ba of Osiris meet and embrace in Djedu/Busiris"He found the soul of Re there, and they embraced each other"

Djedu/Busiris corresponds to the center of the trapezium in the Orion Nebula, the center of the Nile Delta, and the Pineal gland. The embracing shows the correspondence between the Axis mundi (Nile Delta) and the heavens.

Hermes: "Egypt is the image of heaven"Hermes: "Egypt is the temple of the world"

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I know you sound nice on the surface but who do you think you are dealing with? LOL ... Let me sum up what you said real quick..

1. Watch out for the satanic symbols (whatever that means)2. Be afraid of dragons (dragons are good in some cultures)3. Show the "bad" things (Spread fear based on perception)4. You love the word "dimension"5. You think I have altered optics 6. You offer advice as if you have a wealth of it but I see no links to your research, no proof of your having gone across culture and looked at the parallels.

(33) Jesus said, "Preach from your housetops that which you will hear in your ear. For no one lights a lamp and puts it under a bushel, nor does he put it in a hidden place, but rather he sets it on a lampstand so that everyone who enters and leaves will see its light." - Gospel of Thomas [link to www.gnosis.org]

Show us your light and wealth of knowledge and wisdom you have gained! All mine is out on the table. Also, references and links to ancient texts, quotes from scholars, etc. are preferred over channeled messages from "x^n-1" dimension.

Your message is to be afraid. Be VERY AFRAID... and put in a lengthy love filled sounding message. ;) Nice try!

Haven't we had enough of that already? My friend, it is through taking the time to look at the exact things you (or whomever) calls "evil" and understanding its true meaning other than something ambiguous, that you reach understanding. It is through this understanding, that fear cannot survive. If you only understand one side of the equation you are half conscious. And once again this is not an inkblot test... I do pattern matching. So if I happen to see a sad face I will chalk it up as that until I have reason to believe it has relevance. There is data everywhere... that does not mean it has meaning. Sometimes it is just data.

Fear promotes half conscious people. We are eternal and all part of the One... therefore no matter what you perceive, it is all still part of that One. Good luck on your journey into 2013 and may your programming be cleared.

Hell All, And to Danny, I thank you for coming forth and speaking your views. I am scared, OK. Just plain scared. Your rationale does help calm the nerves a little, and I Thank you for that.

To me Peneal means Penile, A Place for Adolescent Detention. When Jacob saw God he embraced Him. Where did this happen?Re and Osiris embraced in a place where they met. Similar story, same place. "A likeness unto the Image of Man". I read it as it was written. An Image of the Image of Man, meaning false image.

I am a little shaken, so excuse my inability to recall every word you wrote exact. Where you see a Torus, I see a Dragon. Where you see geometric shapes, I see the Essence of the shape. We look for Life in the Birth place, but do not look for the Life forms themselves.

Is is any wonder why the 2 Religions, Christianity and Muslim have been, and still are at war today? Why?Why does Moses have 2 horns? Why I ask? Why?How did He know exactly where to go and what he would receive upon arriving? Why were no others allowed to follow?

How did they know in advance where Jesus would be born and when he would arrive? Reincarnation of the Image of Man.Read the Egyptian Texts again, and again if necessary. Read it until infinity. Read it until the veil is lifted and the very words expose themselves. Until the passing of the Baton is exposed. Handing off, to Continue on.

Did you find the Dragon in the picture yet? It is a Golden Dragon. The Angels are around him and on top of him. He is actually pretty cute looking! The Angels are Around him and on top of him, loving him. But, Who is He who has to Hide?

I could show you on some of your artwork, but I do not have an account here. No offense, but I don't like being banned for no reason, therefore I do not reside here.If you were to post that picture, I could tell you how to view it properly. Most all of the artwork you show is the same way. Interlace with hidden meaning and hidden faces.Why? What was there to hide? They knew damn well what they were hiding. And it wasn't Heaven.

I my twisted way, even Heaven can be heard as Heeven. Meaning hooved animal.

I am not denouncing my belief in God or Jesus, nor do I want to invoke fear. That was not my intent. Just the opposite, I was trying to provide a warning to tread carefully into new places.

Why did the Mayans, Egyptians, Muslims, Christians, all know of this Birthing Place call the Penile? And all at the same time in history too? Where are they at now? Why did they all arrive leave around the same time?

What is the basic nature of the Pyramids? Reincarnation.By what authority do they grant themselves this luxury?Let me ask that again. By What authority do they grant themselves that?

Why is the serpent kundalini ground based with no legs to walk for itself? Why must it be carried by us?

The 7 candlesticks are tied to Jacob's ladder. They represent the 7 dimensions of which there are 10.Jacobs ladder can be thought of as; layers within the Eye, specifically the Iris.The 3rd eye is indeed a vortex. But in order for a vertex/wormhole to work properly a path must be made first to the designated place, from which then you can traverse the path. Like building a bridge and trying to walk across it before you hit land. Same thing.I will leave that research up to you to discover.

I'm trying to take the Woo woo out of it for you guys as best as I can.

You are 100% correct in your finding of the Nile and the Nebula connection. It is truly a Birthplace of the Image of Man. But I do not feel it is the birthplace of Man himself. I cannot show you the birthplace and the 2 beings that were involved in it. If it was a snake, it would have bit you. Only through altered perception will it show itself again.

Point being, is that Re-In-carnation of Man, was at the seat of the Apex. That sentence was for you Danny. You know what it means.

Do you believe in Magic? Demons and Dragons and Spirits and astrological beings, God's, mothers, Fathers, Butterflies? Was not this universe created through magic by the hand of God himself?Then who are we to deny anything non-materialistic and without physical form? Those are his creations also.

I love Dragons! Just not the Re one. Intentional misspelling as to give a clue.

What are the colors of the 4 horsemen and who are they?They are Dragons who carry their riders to fulfill God's wrath upon Man. Their riders are Themselves. Archangels.

How is it possible there were Nephilium here before man?They were Dinosaurs. It is so simple once viewed properly.And why were they destroyed? And by whom?For what crime did they commit to deserve such a punishment?

To give birth to one state of matter, is to give birth to the equal and opposite state. Like an Answer ponders how it came to be? The Question asks what will become of it? They both set out on a journey to find the answer, of which they meet and find themselves. Beautiful huh?The answers were given, already laid out for us, prior to us asking the question. This is how it works.

Inside every meaning is an equal and opposite meaning. Words are Magic when spoken with Heartfelt Intentions. WordSwords The very act of writing the Living Book, created an equal and opposite meaning to those who would someday read it. Explain to me why the 10 commandments are double negatives?Take for instance: Thou ShalT Not Kill.Let's examine this a little closer. By using the extra T in ShalT, it cancels the meaning of Not. Meaning, as you read it, You are saying: Thou Shal Kill. This is but one small example of how word play/Magic was used to manipulate us and the deception lies in plain sight. We gave it Life, a Double Life. The more emotion and intention we put into those words, the more it came to Life.

I could go on forever about this and other things. No science can truly explain the inner workings of the Universe. There is no secret Torus that is behind it all. That is a confining cycle. Trapped within Itself. A cage.

It is impossible to write an equation describing the Nature of Man. Only by knowing God, can we take the blinders off.

If any of you think I am against religion and Christ or God, you are sadly mistaken. I am not here to be deceived or to deceive. I only wish to awaken you to what is out there. To advise caution in pursuing the unknown.

We enter New Age, One of Light. Out of the Dark, we burst forth casting all shadows and demons aside. Through God's Light we vaporize the very demons who plagued us. It was for us to see on our own. No will could be imposed upon us. We had to make the Right choice ourselves.

With that said, yes there is a heaven. A hidden Kingdom of God. It is invisible to us and it roads are made of Gold. Invisible Mono-atomic Gold. In another Dimension. The 7th.

Your Halo is your key to getting there. It lies between the 4th and 5th. Stargate, Google it and find the similarities.

I don't know what else to say, except that I love You All.My tears cloud my vision as I write these very words.

I must go now. I will return if asked to. But I will not be where I am not wanted. And I cannot be where there is Sin and Deception. This breaks my heart that you cannot see this for your selves. Like animals being led to the watering hole, only to be eaten by an alligator.

Danny, Thank YouThank You for you efforts and your unbiased presentation of the information. Please adjust your vision and See what True Nature lies where you search. All is not bad, but all is not good either. They are equal in strength. The choice is ours to make. The road there is not an easy one. Stay True.

Like I said before, you must be invited in and guided there safely. Only the purest of Pure can walk there. To do so otherwise would collapse the Walls and infect it's Kingdom. God Bless You All.

Wow. Seraphim has lots to say on this topic.It looks like he has studied this very heavily--and has opinions about Wilten's research thatare interesting.

In order not to drown the thread in analternate reality, I would really like to seeyour discussion on its own thread, Seraphim. It will bevery difficult for you to make your pointswhen this thread is really about visual/opticalcorrespondence and not actually philosophy andreligious prophesy.... as is the direction I believe you are headinginto! Maybe you could provide some photocomparison with Wilten's work on your thread?Then the two tangents won't become competing ideas?Thanks so much for your in-puts--hope to seethat thread soon! I don't want to belabor apoint, but I believe Danny has told you alreadythat he doesn't want to go in the direction youseem to be going.Good luck on your new thread!Cheers!SK

So the thought pattern here is: No religion good or bad and everything is neutral. Nothing exists but the All. The All is everything and nothing. NO religion required.

How it is being described and interpreted seems to be the communication barrier here. Why don't you, yourself try and interpret what it means. Then you can make your own assumptions and conclusions. No interference from anyone.

Danny, In Honor of Your work, and Abhie and SK for their patience with me, I will link to his work which is inline with this thread. Which should in fact bring him more credit.Solved. If this is not OK, then let me know.

My position here is Im open to any and all kind of material that comes in. Although this thread is based on Danny's work, personally I want to stop finding hidden animals and get down to the brass tacks: WTF is going on, and what does the whole thing mean?

Anybody who can post new material on this, as long as it contributes to the ongoing work by Danny, is welcome, so long as there is no dis-info, mis-info or trying to mis-lead the threads.

Although Seraphim, like Danny mentioned, we are yet to see any of your work online, Im really interested in what you have to contribute.

Now tell me, when you look back at where the Golden Dragon is....can you Not see Him/Her now? I only see that and nothing else. Everything else is cammo, a decoy.

It's True Nature hides in Plain sight for those who can See.Because of this, there is no longer any deception. I'm proud of you...yeay! Amazing isn't it?

In order to grasp the understanding of it All, you have to see the Whole picture and the Nature of the Content of which it is Contained. Penile

And by the way, I am a Dragon, myself.

It is my 4th higher self. So, no I do not fear as others would. Angels have wings....Big Ones!Like a Totem Pole, stacked and superimposed, layered. The Indians nailed it perfectly. All Religions nailed it perfectly. True story. Each was Right. My name in itself was a clue.

It will take a while for your mind to stop fighting it. Then you will see it for what it is. I already told you my version.

How many faces does Vishnu have? And what could be the meaning of that? Multiple dimensions, superimposed. layered, transparent. Many faces of the same but different. All is One. That is why it is so hard for you to see it clearly. Your mind is like What??? LOL

Remember the serpent with 7 heads? Perfect description.

What's funny is that I had only watched a few of Danny's video and each one was startling to me. Each one was packed with Life! And not All was Good. This is why I came to warn you, it was what I saw.I saw it as it was. I See through Deception. That is my gift. We each have our own Gifts.

In the Nile Green Patch, the Golden Dragon is there. She is in Cammo within the Green area. She Is The Green area. Brace yourself, because when you finally see it, you will jump. It's kinda scary, but that's how it is.

Evil's only true strength is in the ability to Hide the Shadows. From there they can deceive you.

Shine your Light in there and they are now powerless. The Deception ceases to exist. They are exposed and vulnerable now.

This is not for the faint hearted, tread with caution. Even I get scared sometimes.

There is another person in that picture, but I chose not to let you see it. It is Bad. I know Good from Bad when I see it. If you see it, you will be upset. I didn't want to upset you any more.

So the thought pattern here is: No religion good or bad and everything is neutral. Nothing exists but the All. The All is everything and nothing. NO religion required.

How it is being described and interpreted seems to be the communication barrier here. Why don't you, yourself try and interpret what it means. Then you can make your own assumptions and conclusions. No interference from anyone.

Danny, In Honor of Your work, and Abhie and SK for their patience with me, I will link to his work which is inline with this thread. Which should in fact bring him more credit.Solved. If this is not OK, then let me know.

To me it is so blindingly clear, I cannot see anything else but that. NO it doesn't make sense. And your mind fights it.

Show me the ancient texts that describe This scene.The scene of a Golden Dragon and A Blue Monkey.

Anyways, I hope I shed some light on this for you.

Sorry to be a pain. Communicating in a non-spiritual way is hard for me.

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O.K....Abhie has asked Danny and I to post ourthoughts about the "bottomline" on what this amazinediscovery found in the Orion Nebula means...and whileI'm putting my thought here, I'll also address Seraphim'scomments, too.I appreciate what Seraphim has been able to bring tothe discussion. My initial reaction was his/her choiceof "labels" ("demons" and "evil"--which are generallyJudeo/Christian concepts and not necessarily labelsused in eveyone's vocabularies, right?) Now that I'veforced myself to sit down and REALLY LOOK AT THIS...Iam really EXCITED by what I have found! Thank you!I don't find a problem with our looking at images--even pointing out animals, etc. that we may find there.A blue monkey? A Dragon? Cool....Danny mentioned in his comments above that he wantsto avoid using an "ink-blot" type of observation forhis discovery. He continues to emphasize "patternrecognition" and "correspondence" with things that arePROVABLE statistically. Pointing out that we agree thatthere is, in fact, a blue monkey in the images is funand entertaining...and who knows--maybe we'll find adeeper meaning as we go along with "Where is Waldo?"

But, like I said before, the Wilten discovery is brand new material and there really isn't any context for us to pull information out of it that can point us in any special direction...Correct me if I am wrong about that...at this point in time--even Danny states this!

It isn't any big mystery to me why on earth we have acombined "thread-view" of nearly 60,000 people, yetnearly all of the conversation on the thread has beenAbhie, me and a few brave souls.

The world has had at their easy reference the materialthat was credited to the words of Jesus Christ now for2,000 plus years, yet MOST CHRISTIANS will continue to talkabout only a few limited topics: The DIVIL....DEMONS....the END OF THE WORLD WHEN JESUS RETURNS...WHO IS THETRUE CHURCH AND LETS KILL EVERYONE ELSE...etc. We havebeen in a decades-long war BECAUSE OF THIS MIND SET!Can there be any confusion about WHY we have such limits on being able to put into words the amazingrevelation which Danny Wilten has found in Orion?Is it possible the that pre-programming that ourWestern Christian-based mind-set has put in our mindsthat we aren't even able to grasp and express to eachother what we see--because it is SO FAR OUT OF THE "BOX"we are uncomfortable with speaking about?

Maybe this whole thing turns out to NOT be somethingwe can discuss and debate. Maybe it is just LOOK ATTHIS PHENOMENON...AND SEE WHAT YOU FEEL. Could itpossibly be THAT SIMPLE? ....Boy! I sure don't knowat this point. The Tibetan Monks have a meditationwhereby they draw exquisite images in sand paintings.They construct these sandpaintings--some 16 to 20 feetwide--taking weeks to complete. They take in what thesacred paintings finally end up showing them, thenthe sandpainting is ceremoniously distroyed! Theydon't DISCUSS what they see...they simply take it in.THE WHOLE PROCESS IS A MEDITATION.....And it's beautiful for them. The Western mind can'tdeal with something THAT SIMPLE. We have to take thesame sandpainting, cast it in bronze and showcase thething in some museum somewhere! It comes down to thewhole philosophy of Erich Fromm in his "To Have or ToBe"(1976)--which I wouldn't even try to explain in a post! lol!Here is a link if you want to check it out! [link to www.scribd.com]

All I do know that when we first started this thread back in July that even though I didn't fully understand WHAT I WAS SEEING....MY OVERWHELMINGEXPERIENCE WAS TO BE INSPIRED AND JOY-FILLED BY WHAT I WAS SEEING!

Now, some SEVEN MONTHS LATER...I am finding thatthe more time I spend trying to analyze it and revisit Danny Wilten's earlier videos to TRY TO RE-CAPTURE THAT EXPERIENCE and TEASE OUT SOMETHINGmy Western orientation can label and make-solid, my ORIGINAL experience seems to be diminished in the effort.Maybe from this point...I will stop trying to do this!lol! I hope that explains where I am coming from.

My bottomline, then--at this point in time, at least--THIS MATERIAL IS AN EXPERIENCE...

We can't HAVE the Orion Nebula...WE EXPERIENCE theawesome wonder of it...and take it with us! It is not to HAVE in the sense that I can HAVE a Vangough painting...ora Davinci Fresco. We are being given the GIFT ofan ABSOLUTELY NEW EXPERIENCE in the Orion nebula! And, even to answer Danny Wilten's accusation ofthe Catholic Church having some big conspiracy inpresenting the Orion Nebula in their Vatican paintings--Maybe the Catholic Fathers just wanted those paintingsand frescos to give the seeking pilgrims to ItalyTHE EXPERIENCE!I AM SO GLAD THAT THIS CAME UP--THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME SEE IT!Cheers!SK

Is this carving from Pharoah Akanaten tryingto express this same idea? EXPERIENCE GRACE...DO TRY TO "HAVE" IT!!???