Monday, November 30

2009 was not a good year for Microsoft and the Xbox 360. In fact, it's been their worst since the console came on the scene in 2005, but there's one thing we know about the software giant, they never go out without a fight. And if the reports of Microsoft giving Natal a launch like a major console, and the plans to release some of their games like they were Hollywood blockbusters are true, there's only one conclusion any sensible person would have; and it's that in 2010, Microsoft is prepared to fight. They plan to give Sony and Nintendo hell with a new "shock n awe" campaign that will be the biggest the industry has seen. We'll show you some of the signs.

Shock n Awe No. 1 -Natal Will receive the 'console launch' treatment: Microsoft is not kidding around with their new Motion technology dubbed Project Natal. In earnest, the software giant is looking to change the industry with their new peripheral. And the only way to do that is by spending major bucks and a lot of R&D plus over-the-top hype. Here's Microsoft's Phil Spencer:

"When Natal comes out it will feel like a new generation has arrived," he said. "I see it as like when we launched the Xbox 360 back in 2005 - there will be a launch portfolio of games to support it."

Spencer is not the only Microsoft exec talking up the new toy, in fact Shane Kim said the same thing earlier:

"Conceptually, the launch of Natal will be like the launch of Xbox 360, Kim said. "We're not just going to shift it when the hardware and software is ready."

You can expect MS to takeover TV stations, gaming websites, magazines and all other forms of media in what many expect will be total shock n awe advertising campaign, and it has already begun.

General Manager of Xbox Live Marc Whitten recentlysaid he expects Natal to "be the largest leap TV experience since the remote control." Whitten also believes that Project Natal will replace the remote controller.

Shock n Awe No. 2 -Exclusive games will be get Hollywood blockbuster movie release budget: There are many exclusives coming to the PS3 in 2010, but not to be outdone, Xbox 360 has some big hitters of its own. Amongst the best of the best you'll find Splinter Cell: Conviction, Mass Effect 2, Halo Reach, Crackdown 2, Fable III and Alan Wake are just some of the bigger names.

Microsoft wants these titles to sell extremely well, but also, they plan on creating the impression that their games are the biggest in the industry, hence the planned Hollywood blockbuster release treatment.

One example is Alan Wake. A source inside Microsoft revealed to MCV that Alan Wake will be released in May of 2010 worldwide, and the giant plan on having a release budget so big, it'll rival that of any Hollywood blockbuster movie.

Microsoft is an experienced company, they've been in the game for a long time now, and they can see that Sony got its swagger back. If the Redmond Company let up now, Sony might just steal this the seventh generation from underneath it altogether. So a plan, a concept, a strategy even must be forged; and it has.

Shock n Awe is the plan. Question is, will your jaw drop, or will it remain shut?

Hardly shocking... Natal will sell until people realize that jumping in front of your console is fun for 10 minutes and after that you will just want to grab controller, sit down and forget about natal.

PlayStation 3 har more exclusives than 6. And you count console exclusives so it actually has a lot more since then you can also count:

Free RealmsDC Universe OnlineThe Agency Final Fantasy XIV

and of course the real exclusives:

ModNation racersGran Turismo 5God of War 3Resistance 3 (just as much confirmed as Fable III, but I'm not counting Killzone 3)ExodysseyMAGHeavy RainQuantum TheoryThe Last GuardianAnd possibly Agent and Yakuza 4. I'm not counting PSN, but that would of course boost the line-up even more.

That is nowhere near as responsive or as accurate as Natal.Also Tomas there are more than the 6 exclusives named coming out for the 360, don't forget it's also about quality but keep cheerypicking to help you justify your pruchase instead of playing it. You can now I hear there is a game on it to play now.The SDF really are desperate.

Wow....there's an awful lot of desperate MDF weirdos in the comments today, why don't theese guys play their 360's instead of just talking about them? They can't ALL have the RROD, surely? :P

Anyway, Microsoft's hopes are pretty much ALL resting on the shoulders of Project Natal. If Natal fails the 360 probably goes down with it and i feel Microsoft is taking Natal down the wrong road. There have been a few rumours circulating that many upcoming 360 games will ONLY support Project Natal and not even give gamers the option of using the controller, which would be a terrible decision for Microsoft to make. If they try to force consumers into a Natal - only experience it's only going to fragment their customer base.

Also, wether Natal works or not, it's going to have stiff competition from the already - established Wiimote and Sony's "Wand" controller. I think this Project Natal thing is more of a desperation move from Microsoft than anything else and Microsoft have to be aware that many people may not use Natal because they simply don't have the space in their living room/bedroom to jump around kicking thin air and whatnot.

As for the games......LOL. Come on now, be reasonable. The 360 has many great exclusives and many great timed - exclusives for next year, no doubt. However they cannot compete with:

It doesn't matter what kind of a budget Microsoft give their exclusives.....Sony have the kind of development talent that money alone can't compete with. Money is not everything (Just look at Manchester City).

PS3 will take 2nd place next year. Thats what i have said many times to people after the release of the PS3 slim model.

The fact that PS3 has had the better game releases this year ( 2009 ) than xbox 360, which also has a much better game line up for ( 2010 ) than what the xbox 360 has. I think that natal will not help the 360 console falling flat on it's face.

Like the PS2, the PS3 had a slow start, but after 2-3 years of release, the games come out for it, and the sales start to flood in.

This is a few of whats coming out. More console exclusive are being made for the PS3 than the xbox 360. Sorry but thats a fact.

Iplayer / Netflix / Vidzone / Facebook / Twitter / YouTube / ( and now SONY are getting )Sky-Player / 40D, ect onto their PS3 console. Thats without the PSN movies / HOME Network / ect, which is already there. All can be used on the PS3 For FREE, unlike the xbox 360 that makes it's members PAY to use Facebook / Twitter / Netflix. What a JOKE, no wonder BBC iplayer have turned down their App- on the xbox 360 due to MS wanting to charge members to use it. Thats a joke in it's self.

I'm not impressed, they may be exclusive, but its not really anything new, the only game on the list that isnt a sequel is Alan Wake. the rest? been there done that, nuff said. what shock and awe are you talking bout willis?

Of course microsoft can compete with sony and its exclusives. It's all about taste buddy not every heavyhitting game appeals to everyone but one thing that microsoft does they make sure that the public knows about their games... They also proclaim them to be the best and since many people agree they usually generate a good amount of sales. For ps3 im getting gow3,last guardian and possibly wkc. For xbox mass effect,alan wake,fable 3,splintercell, and reach so its a going to be a good year to be a gamer.

OMG !! Again only thing MS can do is to PAY for good games to be exclusive on X360.MS create JUST ONE game on your own, one good game, without buying whole dev studio. Do it as Sony does inside SCEJ/SCEA/SCEE.

So nothing new- MS again is putting huge load of money since it's only thing where they can beat both Sony and Nintendo.

2010 for now seems all sony.... but i am waiting for microsoft to announce more titles... as for natal.. i am not convinced yet... ms better have a never-seen-before killer app for it and not just the 360 version of wii sports.

Microsoft's idea of perfection in gaming is to throw money at titles - but seem to forget that many people are bored with Halo and the likes.

PS3 Are a great console just like 360 but i have to say having owned two of each console that im way more impressed with PS3 - take for instance Little Big Planet - yes i know its not everyone's cup of tea but by god did they breathe fresh life into a stale time.

Gears of war 2 - disappointed i mean come on how many times can you want to cut big worms gizzards like lol

there are only 4 or maybe 5 game on sony line up for 2010 that will sell good and move some unit and games are GT5-GOW3-MAYBE MAG- MAYBE KILL ZONE- FINAL FANTASY the other game i don't now we will have see if the other games will sell

u are say people are bored with halo games then why do they sell 2-3 mill and the other sell 1-2 mill u say there are bored....something wrong there i just the xbox people are buying both now because ps3 is cheaper now...

WOW it seems like sony fans are so protective of there system....OHHH MY EXCLUSIVE THIS AND THAT.... Really who cares we all know your the ones that bought the PS3 when it was 699.00 and now your trying to justify your purchase to the world. I am not for xbox or sony I will take my pc anyday because only the truly good games are on PC the rest if its not is crap.

okay seems to me like plenty of people here are biased towards ps3 which is understandable however i own both consoles and would say the online experience on xbox is better than ps3 easily (maybe doesnt warrant the 40 pound price tag however) due to cross channel chat etc and if u remember when cod2 came out there were network porblems for ps3 and none for xbox.

natal going to suck please it better than wii shit and the sony shit think about no controllers thats crazy.....pulse sony line up is not that great there only like 5 0r 6 game are good i will name some gt5-gow3 and Final Fantasy XIV can not see mag sell that great it will be good

I had to laugh at the conviction was being made for the PS3 before being moved to the 360.Really do you not know your gaming history?Why would they take an xbox only franchise and make it for the PS3? think first then post.Made me laugh more than McFail.Do you not have any games to play on your PS3 that you have to spend all your time on here bad mouthing the 360 like an insecure woman?I've only posted on two stories but read a lot more on here and you are always posting.Play on your PS3, I hear it has a game worth playing on now.

Natal will sell really well after Micro$oft hypes it up so much, then as others have said once people realize it is only fun for a day or two they will pick up there controller. Its the same as the wii, the wii is a fad and is inflated by the very young and the new middle aged gamer, i am a hardcore gamer who bought into the wii hype and bought one, got one game that i played for about 2 weeks, never been played since, after 2 years... Plus natal is a playstation eye toy on steroids, it isnt any kind of new tec. Now sonys 3D tec that they are unveiling in 2010 will be something thats innovative.

Sony's 3D technology isn't innovative. I have a 3D monitor sitting on the the other side of my room. Its been here on the PC for a while now and its really not all too awesome. Having to wear glasses just to see some special 3D effects gets just as boring as the motion controllers. I agree that after I get a Natal and use it for about 2 weeks, I will grab my controller and play some Halo or CoD. They are fads and wont last. Its all about the quality of the games. Sony fanboys love shouting the number of exculives out their asses just to make themselves feel better. It makes me laugh in pity. I will buy a PS3 for one reason: God of War 3. And don't forget, you need a 3D TV to play 3D games. Untill about 2011 when they get the right software to make the games play in 3D on a non-3D TV. Yeah, fuck that, we're all dead in 2012 anyway :P

The topic is about Natal and some of the games that may or may not show up when Natal comes out, The PS3 has nothing to do with Natal, two different system headed in two different directions,3d I laugh, I had 3d on a Sega console years ago I think it was the first console they had that used glasses, cool but way before its time people and the electronic market still are not ready, anyway bring all the new and even the inproved stuff we need it because the video games are getting boring with the same concepts, shooters, racers, fighters etc. change is needed bad to keep things from getting stale in all console gaming.

Wow there's a lot of mildly retarded 360 fanboys here defending their console like whiny children........i know you 360 fanboys have a lot of spare time on your hands since the 360 has NO exclusive games but this is ridiculous.

Also, who's the moron that said Splinter Cell is a Microsoft - only franchise? LOL.....please explain why EVERY SC game released so far has been on Playstation consoles then? You fangirls don't follow the games industry very closely at all, you just talk about the 360 like a bunch of defensive women but don't play it cause it has no games.

By the way - i think it's safe to turn your 360 on now.....Microsoft have cut the failure rate down to just 99.9%!

Anyone trying to argue that project Natal is going to fail and bring xbox 360 down with it is irrelevant. What do you guys know? Nothing. Microsoft is worth bazilians and pays top dollar to the folks making the decisions. David, shut up. You couldn't possibly understand Microsoft's strategy.

"Resistance 3 (just as much confirmed as Fable III, but I'm not counting Killzone 3)"

you do realise that Fable 3 has been officially confirmed, dont you? Microsofts entire GamesCom press conference was about Fable 3 and its announcement lol.

look, i own a PS3 and 360, so im glad there are lots of exclusives for BOTH, but the way you sony fanboys rattle off your list of games that are 2-3 years away really makes you look desperate.

Sony and Microsoft have different release models. Sony choose to announce a game the very second that its in design stages, saying how it could only be done on PS3 and how cell is the best, and then the game comes out 2-3 years later, possibly more. Microsoft just work on their games, and announce them about 6-8 months before they come out. Gears of War 2 was announced and shown for the first time at e3 2008, and was released 6 months later. Forza 3 was announced and then released within 6 months of the announcement. thats how they work - they wait til its nearly done, then announce its coming very soon.

so everyone saying that microsoft have no games in 2010..........its just the same as they said in 2008, and 2009. you just keep making the same mistake, assuming that because they have not announced any games that there arent any coming out for 12 months. this is NEVER the way theyve worked, and it never will be.

to the moron who said natal has laggyness and judging it from videos....ur an idiot.. and shows that fanboyism just make ppl dumb and spit idiotic things. Thats jus idiotic to even say that.. i mean..really? Laggyness? based off vids? And you can actually SEE the laggyness? god your an idiot.

M$...M$....M$... When will you ever learn that your system everytime a new game that requires a lot of system power just makes rrod..CoD MW2... Natal is going to equal rrod... Just wait while you send your rrod xbox in (for the 5th time) I will be playing with 256 players online best driving game known watching blood come out from kratos ripping gods heads off...Please you 360 fanboys when will you learn that sending you rrod 360 in is not as fun while playing for free in hd with amazing gameplay is better than lag blackscreen oo i got killed shucks i died there goes my 15-10 killstreak in halo reach.

I think this whole fanboy thing is stubid. I have the wii/360/ps3. The wii only has like 2 or 3 good games that come out, but like some of you said it gets boring, and it dose, but it 's a good family system.

The 360 has alot of exclusives to, but have not been show yet.

The ps3 also has alot of exclusives, but some of those game on that list might also come out one the 360/wii as well. I mean c'mon you guy are making youself look bad by alot of these falus things you guy put on there. like how someone said that splinter cell DA was ps3 exclusive, no it came out for the 360 at the same time. an conviction will be 360 exclusive but it might come out for the 360 later.

But this topic is on project Natal. I think it will sell pertty good if it has good games for it.

Oh and that David guy is a fucking tard. Dose he not know that the 360 has 3x more games than sony dose. I think that some of these ps3 members have never played the 360. So if you don't know what the 360's out, then don't comment at all.

But I like the ps3 because it has free online service. but I like the 360 more because the online service is better and better games.

Tidus are you retarded more games? better games? Saying its an exclusive for 360 but its coming out for the 360 later? Since when is an online service only better b/c cross game chat and voice msgs make a huge difference? I now highly doubt you have all 3 systems just saying you do to say im not a fanboy so dont talk to me about what i say... and since when do you need a degree in gaming to know exlusives man.... obviously you are the one who needs to look up your gaming...

3D Dot HeroesAGENTApe EscapeAr Tonelico 3Atelier RoronaDC Universe OnlineDead NationDynasty Warriors OnlineFinal Fantasy XIVFree RealmsGod of War 3Gran Turismo 5Heavy RainKurayamiMAGModNation RacersNi-ohQuantum TheoryResistance 3StarhawkSteambot Chronicles 2Team Ico CollectionThe AgencyThe Last GuardianThe Last RebellionTrinity UniverseTrinity: Zill O'll ZeroWhite Knight ChroniclesYakuza 3THE ONLY GAMES ON THIS LIST IS GOOD GOW3 Final Fantasy XIV GT5 MAYBE RFOM 3 THAT ALL WHAT ELS IS GOOD ON THIS LIST THAT WILL SELL MILLS CAN ANY BUTTY TELL ME THIS MAYBE RFOM 3..... if i put 360 exclusives here what would you say, heck theres barely any new things 90% 360 exclusives are sequals cuz ps3 is taking em all. youare baised u probably never even watched all of the game

Ugh, the fanboyism is painful here. "Natal sucks!" is a brilliant retort to the article. Bravo. Truth is, if Microsoft does their job right Natal will be a success just like the Wii before it. Wii games in general are far too gimmicky and are lacking in the long-term "fun" department (Nintendo's own games being the exceptions) but sell like bottled water during a heat wave. Sony fanboys need to give the thing a chance to release before they make their moronic blanket statements about it. I have a Ps3 and look forward to the exclusives coming out for it but I am still intrigued by Natal and am jealous of some of the xbox's exclusives. As for MS buying companies and games give me a break. It sounds like a red sox fan complaining about the Yankees. I don't really care about how good games were acquired/made as long as those good games are on the system I buy.

I love everyone getting all defense/ aggresive. If you have a 360 good for you be proud of what's coming like i am. If you got a PS3 shut the fuck up and go read PS3 news it's like a piece of your soul has been taken away from you. I have a PS3 and trust me the best thing about it is the blu ray player, you can get the same quality games on an Xbox 360 unless you have a major boner over graphics.

I also wouldn't be surpised if it's only a timed exclusive in Japan. Why wouldn't Square want to make more money, especially considering that they'll have code completed for the Xbox 360 in 2010? Sony would have to pay up to keep it exclusive in Japan forever.

What I ment to say was 360 exclusive and MIGHT be comming out for ps3 later. And ya I can prove I have all 3 systems ps3 fanboy. my emaiis dogarticsquad@hotmail.com. send my a MSG and I will show you the pics. and just to prove it's me, I will flick you off. you don't need a degree, you need a fucking GED first. Did I offend your boyfriend or something or are all the people like just retared. Don't say shit if you can't prove it, in this case you can't, I can. Think about that one for a bit. And 360 dose have better online service in my OPINION.

sony will be ready cause they have all their good games coming out next year so ps3 is ready to fight to i don't understand how natal will effect ps3 that bad cause of our motion controller. 4 ps3 n xbox fan boys we will see who is better so lets not just judge right now. plus we already know sony got it this year.

IN CONCLUSION: PS3 FANBOYS ARE SO NERVOUS ABOUT NATAL THAT THEY ARE BUTT LOVING EACH OTHER.. BIG OL' STROKE FEAST IN HERE. "NATAL SUCKS, YEA, WOO".

GUESS WHAT, PS3 SUCKS , YOUR GAMES DON'T SELL.FOR THE EXCLUSIVES WE DID HAVE THIS YEAR, SMOKED ALL PS3 GAMES SALES. SO WHY DON'T SONY FANS SUPPORT THERE GAMES.

BUTT LOVING, THATS RIGHT BUTT LOVEING.SONY FANS ARE TO BUSY ON WEB PAGES MEETING UP WITH EACH OTHER, TO NOT PLAY GAMES BUT TO POP IN A BLUE RAY AND GET TO THE GAME THEY LOVE THE THE BEST, GETTING BUTT LOVED AND SOON GETTING RAPPED BUY M$,NATAL.

GOOD BYE, NO BUYING PS3 FANS. HOPE YOUR VOYAGE TO BUTT LAND GOES WELL. GREAT WAY TO HIDE YOUR REAL MOTIVE. BUY A PS3 AND HOOK UP ON FANBOY PAGES TO GET BUTT LOVED..

P.S. I HEARD THEY GOT A NEW PILL OUT FOR DELUSIONAL PS3 FANS. PLUG THEM 12 MG, SHOULD GO HAND IN HAND WITH YOUR BUTT LOVING PALS.

I'm sorry, but whoever said that PSN has more members than xbox live is a retard, microsoft only counts the Gold members who pay for it, and Sony includes everybody who has a PSP or just use the forums online. And if they did just count PSN members on PS3 then there would be way more on xbox.

Thank you Nathan for providing a wonderful example of your average Xbox 360 owner. Mildly retarded, always types in CAPS LOCK and can't spell or use proper sentence structure........i guess the 360 really is for children and non - gamers.

You are obviosuly a jealous numb - nuts who hates the fact that the PS3 has all the good exclusives while the 360 has timed - exclusives like ME2 and SC: C and garbage strategys like releasing 12 Halo games in the space of 3 weeks.

Also, to the anonymous troll who replied to me - shut up, you can't possibly understand the strategy of PS3 having more games than 360 you uneducated fanboy.

((( I'm sorry, but whoever said that PSN has more members than xbox live is a retard, microsoft only counts the Gold members who pay for it, and Sony includes everybody who has a PSP or just use the forums online. And if they did just count PSN members on PS3 then there would be way more on xbox.)))

You are the retard heres why.

PSN HAS got 33 million active members. PSN means, PLAYSTATION NETWORK, ( NOT JUST PS3'S ) DUMB @SS. BOTH MS and Sony have given their figures out to the public ( like E3 show's ) ect. So the FACT that PSN holds more members is real.

Also WHERE ( please show link )does it say that MS ONLY include Gold Accounts in their figures.??? Until link is shown, thats more BS !!.

So i own both 360 and PS3, and i can honestly say this...

The PS3 and PSN offers a BETTER family online entertainment than the xbox 360.

Heres why i say this.

I have 3 children, for me it is better to use the FREE online account system on the PS3/PSN for making my children 1 account each. The total price i can save upto per year on making this choice is £120.00 compared to the xbox 360. The 360 gold accounts would cost £120.00 for 3 accounts, and thats without mine and the misses added.

so if i was to buy from MS for a family of 5 that would cost me £200.00 per year. THATS A RIP OFF!!

PS3 = £0.00 = 5 accounts360 = £200.00 = 5 accounts

Maybe this is why PSN is growing bigger each day, while XBL seems not to be moving anywhere near as fast anymore.

XBL had been around for 7 years now, and has only 20 million members...

PSN has been around for 3 years now and has 33 million members...

FACT that PSN is bigger / FACT that PSN has got more members in a shorter time / FACT that more people are using PSN than XBL / FACT that PSN is FREE for members to play games online / FACT that PSN uses better servers than XBL.

Now as for XBL having Cross Game Chat and Party mode doesn't anything. Yes you can talk to people while playing a different game to others, but that will come to the PSN sooner or later.

I bet you all this. Uncharted 2 will get more GAME OF THE YEAR votes than any other games out there.

I have the 360, and so far nothing on the 360 has come close to uncharted 2 in gameplay or graphics. When i played Killzone 2 i was amazed at how great the game looked and how it play, the physics are so cool in that game, HALO eat your heart out physics.

So anyway, me having the 360 was saying to PS3 fanboys ( games like this can be made on the 360 ), well in a way i am right, but also wrong. The games out and being made will not be as good as the games listed above. The 360 needs x-engine to make games like Killzone 2, and even though they are testing it out now ( it's for their next gen console ).?

So to me that looks like no matter what is said or done, the 360 will not have graphics or anything close to it until next gen.

I bought a PS3,and thought to myself ( why didn't i get this in the first place )and now ported overs games are getting made better for the PS3, and in some cases now even better than the 360's games.

I say Natal will flop, and that PS3 with it's new Wand control with win through. With the added help of the 3D update coming in 2010 for the PS3.

Blu-Ray has now found it's feet in the movie business and is now showing bigger sales than DVD. Blu-Ray also killed the HD-DVD which was MS, or the 360's idea of future disc content. Thats now laid to rest with the dinosaurs.

Netflix and PSN have given movies to the PS3 members, and in total there are around 20,000 films to choose from, thats more than the 360's total. Plus PSN are updating weekly content for the PS3, Plus theres over 10,000 music videos to watch on the PS3, 360 has none. The PS3 is the better multi media player than 360.

PSN is FREE and holds over 33 million active member accounts. Great for families with no cost to play games online. XBL charge you £40.00 a year for playing games online, and you even have to pay this price to use FREE content everywhere else like facebook twitter netflix. Without a gold membership, your left behind and can't use the feaures of XBL.

PS3 uses Bluetooth so people can use any 3rd party products on the console. MS are stopping this from taken place on there 360 console.

PS3 doesn't cost money once you bought the console, ( example ) the controllers have a built in battery that can charge from PC or PS3 ect. It has built in Wi-Fi also. 360 controllers needs batteries to use the wireless feature, and cost £50.00 for a wi-fi adapter. Batteries per year cost around £80.00 approx.

PS3 holds more HDD space ( 500gb ) where the 360 is only half that ( 250 ). The 500gb HDD will cost £70.00 approx for the PS3, the 250 will cost £150.00 approx for the 360. The 120gb 360 HDD is £80.00 to buy.

The PS3 saves you shelve space, because the POWER Supply is built into the machine. The 360 has a MASSIVE power brick supply thats not fitted in the machine.

The PS3 is the better built console than the 360. PS3 has a 10% approx failure rating, but the 360 has over a 50% failure rating.

PS3 holds the best graphical games on it's console than any other console on the market today. Also the PS3 isn't held back by disc space unlike the 360 has been. Final Fantasy XIII will by one disc on PS3, the 360 will need 3 or more discs for the same game.? IMO disc swapping went out last gen.

PS3 has a web browser to use, so you can use the web for multiple things, like FULL Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, 4OD, last FM,ect. On the 360 you don't have the freedom due this,theres no browser on the 360 console, and only having the bummed down versions of Facebook, Twitter ect on it's interface.

PS3 also helps ( folding@home ). Please look up for more details. It also uses less electric and is more friendly on the environment.

PS3 has HOME with 8 million members approx. You like the sims, well this is getting much like that, but better due to meeting other gamers in the HOME world. A very good idea to meet players unlike the 360 where you have to play a game then add them to your 100 max friend list. No place to meet people on the 360 like the PS3 has got.

PSN allows game sharing with upto 5 active PS3's/PSP's. Meaning i could buy a game for ( lets say ) £8.00, i can now share that game with my friends ( upto 5 ) they can do the same with their games, so for that £8.00 i spent on the one game, i now have 5 games for that money. XBL on 360 does not allow this to happen, so PSN with games and DLC is the better choice to make.

The PS3 is VERY quite when running. You can't hear the console unless your right on top of it. The 360 is VERY loud and the fan noise from the 360 console is just silly, it even spoils watching movies due to how loud it gets. If you want to watch movies the PS3 is the best choice as you can watch blu-ray 1080p/24p with full 7.1 surround sound, with updates made through the PS3's browser for a even more better movie experience.

The list goes on and on. The sooner people see the real features of the PS3 and what it has to offer the better. I own both consoles, and i can honestly say that PS3 gaming online has very little lag, but the 360 has loads, so much so that even games like Gears Of War 2 have been nicked named from the xbox community Lag Of War 2..That alone speaks for itself. The only thing that is good one the 360 console online is Cross Game Chat, which is coming to the PS3, thats a dot on the cards for sure, and the other thing that 360 has is party chart, which is good, and this should be allowed on PS3 as it is good for family members playing games online nothing only the people in the party can hear them. But everything else i have to say is better on the PS3.

NATAL might only be usable on gold accounts, due to online game play?. You never know because lets face it, MS wanted to charge members to use iplayer on the 360. ( people had to be a gold member to use the feature ) Yet iplayer is free on every other console.

Wow the title says microsoft and I see mutiple list of ps3 generic games that dont even sale. lol ps3 owners are ass&%$$. They s*&@ on everything, but that over rated, third place p.o.s. get a life and read the title lmao.ps I smell *&%^. lmao......tools

Shock and awe? Shock and M$soft go together for sure! Like how shocked i was when my $400 console died several times within the passed 3 years. i must be a retard since i keep buying this companies products/games. I will prob be dumb enough to buy this Natal bs as well X D

HAHAHAHA!!! omg its like you jokers no nothing about your own console!!! Learn your history first, PS3 'Joy-ryders' and you no what I mean when i say that.

All PS3 is good at is picking up the crumbs and trying to make something of it. all they are good at is playing catch up and have no sense of innovation!I mean what is that retarded motion controller about?? its a JOKE! anyone see innovation there? all i see is an upgrade of the WiiMote! 2 months of good hardware sales doesn't mean anything!!lol!!!

PS3 fanboys are just good at twiddling their thumbs waiting for sony to pull their fingers out their rear-ends. I'm sorry all those lame exclusives that are listed is pathetic, are any of them even heard of? or even blockbusters?HAHA!!! GT5 isnt a blockbuster seller!

let me tell you what a blockbuster seller is...when a game can sell 3 million copies in a week, 2 million in 24 hours, games like gears of war, halo 3, halo 3: ODST, GTA4, COD6! r u for real when you write those exclusives?

do you no how long it took for Killzone 2 to sell 2 million copies? trust me if u dnt no, then look it up & ull see how lame ps3 games are on paper! Do you want to know how bad MGS did when it got released in comparison, trust me you dnt want 2 no! As for uncharted 2, u reli wanna no how bad it did in comparison? lol! & they are supposedly your major blockbuster games and with good graphics...what happened there fanboys? Heavy rain...please, sony cannot compete with software sales because half the jokers out there just buy it for the cheap ass blue-ray player! hahaha, no real gamers!

do your homework first people before you come here hyping that george-forman crap on here! Atleast the blockbusters MS listed are ACTUAL blockbusters, as for exclusives, they are not the only ones being released in 2010, jeeze, its like nobody here has a brain, lol! They have tonnes of exclusives lined up and NO PS3 do not have more exclusives than Xbox!

Oh & another thing, as far as that pathetic listed goes, do any of them even have a release date? if your sony fanboys, you do realise that it could take years & years before sony actually releases a game...lol!! prime example is Kill Zone 2, oh and that pathetic Home thing, took so long for something that was ultra lame!

Let me tell you why MS will rule this generation hands down, because once a Hardware is released, all that counts is the software and MS is the world's largest software company & have been for a very long time, they set the trend for software upgrades & releases, the Wii & Sony are hardware companies, they cannot come close to even testing MS when it comes to that! look at both interfaces for example, the PS3 looks like a PSP when you switch it on and the Wii looks like a lame interface of an iphone for kids! I rest my case!

ps. like the other guy here said, go jump on home & bum @*&$! each other. AS for your PSN, which is soo basic, with no sense of innovation or features for users, account only for REGISTERED users!! REGISTERED!

Why do you think MS won a Guinness world record for "Online Console Gaming Service With The Most Users!!" LOL, theres your fact, look it up!!

NOT REGISTERED USERS FOR HALF THE FAMILY!!!lol!!

its clearly a far better service since PEOPLE ACTUALLY PAY FOR IT!!!! MONEY TALKS, and trust me the PSN doesn't speak for itself!

Half the PS3 fanboys on here are just dumb-ass parents, with their kids, who sit there think they no it all about their own console & the only reason they clearly seem to defend it so much is because they bought it for a blu-ray player & since its a gaming console too, they have to like it! You cant test my knowledge, I study this console war religiously, call me sad, i don't care, but atleast I know my stuff, unlike half of these fanboys that come on here and just post a load of nonsense! Mostly because the slim-line was a success, its only been 2 months!!!LOL!! How long have they been chasing MS sales???!!! lol!! I guarantee you, even being a xbox 360 fan, I know way more about the PS3 than all these fanboys on here put together!

My mate couldn't even play Spec Ops on COD6 online on their so-called PSN because they couldn't connect, thats how lame is that?? its buggy, laggy, not robust and the worst thing on top of that, how hard can it be when the whole thing is so basic?! i don't get that! its pathetic!

As far as the PSN movies content goes, HOW LATE WAS THAT?! the PARTY started with MS when they released it! Sony always seem to turn up to the parties when its all over for this entire generation! lol!!!

Look at natal, that has been running from PS 2 times, maybe even PSOne times. And could run NOW on PS3, but SONY don't want to be named as a LAGGING Gaming Console, which is why they are going with the Pixel perfect WAND which has no LAG.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-aPHb5Vbt8&feature=player_embedded

Also what about the FACT that Facebook / Twitter / Last.FM, was all being used BEFORE the 360 got them. Also the FACT that PS3 holds more Media content than 360.? Like a bigger and better Netflix library thanks to playing both Blu-Ray and DVD, also we have iplayer / 4OD / VidZone / Grooveshark / youtube / PSN holds over 580 films to rent, yet XBL only has 271 films to rent, BUT the PSN also allows you to buy films if you want too, pushing the PSN library total even more, Yet PSN is only 3 years old, where XBL ( being a bit slow ) is now 7 years old. PSN is NOT the one thats slow on the uptake mate, it's XBL that behind times.

You also talk about the SLIM only being out for a few months, OMG, the slim models from SONY have been proven for YEARS that as soon as they release a SLIM model they sell faster, Just like the PS2 models have done in the past. And you say you study the consoles. Yeah from a fanboi view. You know nothing about them. You only THINK you do.

You also say about your mate not connecting to PSN to play COD6, and then talk more BS about how bad online it is. THATS your mates internet connection DUMB @ss not PSN. Also COD6 (MW2) is the better version online out of the two consoles, the PS3 gets the Patches before the xbox 360, and the PS3 doesn't get effected by glitches as bad as the 360 has been getting lately. Yet again you know nothing at all about such matters.

Also we have over 50 PSOne games that play on the PS3 through PSN, We have over 80 PSP games that work on PS3 through PSN, Also we have the PSN games ( Like XBL's arcade games ) We also have PS3 games to buy from PSN, We also ( IN UK ) have over 580 films to rent with 100's to buy and own, not just rent. XBL only has 271 to rent and you can't buy them either. You have VidZone, for the Video Music Lovers with 1000's and 1000's of video's, also you have iplayer which is great if you missed a program, or great if you just want to catch up on your programs. 4OD is coming even though PS3 can use that now through it's internet Browser, same as Twitter/Facebook/Youtube, ect. Also we can use Grooveshark which is for all music lovers, it's all free to use and holds millions of songs for you to play through your PS3 / PC.

Also PSN 99% of the time gets some great deals and good DLC. Check this out for an example.

PS3 also won the Metacritic’s Game Platform Power Rankings. In other words the games are better made than other consoles and have scored higher for this. Also PS3 holds more AAA exclusive titles than the 360 console.

SkyTV/SkyPlayer is only a timeed exclusive on the 360 same as netflix was. Soon Sky will be on the PS3 just like Netflix is right now. And due to the FACT that PS3 plays both DVD and Blu-Ray the PS3 netflix library is bigger and better than the 360's library.

Now we have 3D gaming to the PS3, with games running at 1080p. Now thats going to be awesome with the ( PS3's new controller nick named WAND ).

PS3 now is cheaper to buy. The PS3 has better exclusive games. The PS3 has the better tech in it's console. The PS3 has a better build quality than 360. The PS3 is future proof due to Blu-Ray player and being upgradeable through Internet and parts ( Hard Drives, ect ). The PS3 Has better tech coming to it's console than 360. The PS3 has a bigger games release list coming for it's console. The PS3 has a better layout than 360's. The PS3 is out selling the 360 in the same time span. The PS3 cost less to run than the 360. The PS3 doesn't cost any extra money to play once bought, unlike the 360. The PS3 is free to play online.

You can also GAME SHARE stuff bought from PSN with 5 active PS3 / PSP consoles. So 5 friends can have my game i bought to save them money, while i share their games to save myself money.

The cost of having a family on the PS3/PSN is £0 / $0. It's FREE for a whole family to play online gaming.

The cost of having a family on the 360/XBL is £40.00 / $50.00 per person. It's NOT free for a whole family to play online gaming

So for people to see the real for online gaming...See below.

A family of 5 on each console to play online gaming. ( Costs can vary depending where bought )

PS3 = PSN x a family of 5 = £0 / $0 no cost.

Xbox 360 = XBL x a family of 5 = £200.00 / $250.00 MASSIVE cost.

You make you minds up what console is the future ;o)

I could go on all day. but the best console for the money to by now is the [PS3]. And just so people know, you can buy your PSN cards from Zavvi.co.uk, as they are under £16.00 for a £20.00 spend on the PSN. So every game that says £10.00 on PSN will really cost £8.00.

HAHHAHA, unfortunately I actually forced myself to stay awake through all that crap and over-hyped non-sense!Wait, you just nit-picked at random crap and call this a straight argument. It seems you just regurgitated at load of crap from a PS3 fanboy site! Your argument is not even coherent, its just all over the place throwing crap let right & centre about the PS3. Do you really expect me to believe that the PSN is better than the Xbox Live? The worlds most renowned and largest online gaming platform? LOL OK MATE!

Ok let me tackle each crap you threw at me at a time. Ok from the top of my head, Netflix, yes it was released on the xbox 360 first, and when I mean first, I mean an entire year. & please correct me if I am wrong, is it true that PS3 users of Netflix require a disk to watch nextflix content, which you must order first?

Wait, isn't it also true that since you use the word "future-proof" in which you meant having the Blu-ray player, that some games STILL require a mandatory installation before you can play the game? Why the hell do you have all that space on the disk if you still have to install some content onto your hard drive?! I think thats pathetic. Oh yes, I do no my stuff about that crap you call a PS3, the reason why some games require a mandatory installation, is because the Ps3 Blu-ray drives don't read as fast as DVD drives, so it's a problem when playing the game, so an installation is required for a smoother game performance! Do you call that great build quality? I surely don't! & doesnt sound like great tech either!! You have a standard GPU in the PS3, nothing compared to the ATI GPU in the xbox 360, thats why games play better, with much richer depth & colour! Oh & the Cell processor hasn;t really lived up to its hype yet has it? hmmm....& it seems that everyone is talking about a shorter console cycle this gen too! What a shame!

I call that 30-50GB disc a piece of crap. MS seems to be doing great without it since it's already 4 years into it's cycle, no major problems for MS with the DVD format. They seem to be releasing amazing blockbuster games, that not even a single PS3 exclusive hasn't even come close to beating! LOL!!! Hows that for a great line up!

Please put that lame crap of a list away, I am far from amazed nor am I interested, 95% of those games I havn't even heard of! Whats so special about that list mate? Its pathetic, it's like your desperately creating a list to show me that you have a great line-up of games ready for release for the PS3? Firstly, they are not great, since sales talk, not metacritic LOL!!! MONEY TALKS right?! Name me one blockbuster exclusive game on the PS3 that has outsold the Xbox 360 blockbuster exclusive game? JUST ONE! Another thing, has any of them exclusives even going to be released within 2010? I guarantee 80% of that pathetic list is due for like within the next 5 years! LOL! I bet some of them are only going to be a Japan exclusive only!

"Look at natal, that has been running from PS2 times, maybe even PSOne times. And could run NOW on PS3, but SONY don't want to be named as a LAGGING Gaming Console, which is why they are going with the Pixel perfect WAND which has no LAG."

First let me clear up that NATAL has Strictly been Patented, and that it has won 2009 Technical Excellence Awards and made TIME's 50 best inventions list. Natal is more recognised and created more press alone than the PS3 has in its life-time! LOL! & you expect me to believe that utterly pathetic statement that it has been running from PS2 or even PS1 times? Please sit back down, you have just lost ALL integrity in your post! LOL!! Thats not even called speculation, thats called utter Bull-Crap! lol!

Let me clarify for you how lame that youtube video was, yes motion camera's has been around for a long time, like any other technology, before its released has been around for a long time, the same with voice recognition and face recognition. All that youtube video showed was that MS didn't release a piece of crap the eye-toy was trying to be! Natal is a completely robust, all in one, voice, face, and individual body recognition that is so advanced that it can even detect facial movements and finger digits to such great accuracy and detail. It is still being polished, and they are doing so well it has been recognised all over the globe. What that video shows is that Sony tried and they failed miserably LOL!!! thanks dude, great job trying to rep the PS3! Better luck next time eh? The camera Natal uses is so advanced that only one company had managed to perfect it and patented it, which MS bought off them out right. The technology in the camera has completely different from that crapy eye-toy!lol! I don't see that getting any sort of great publicity LOL!! Or winning any awards! Its basic! Like the WAND, its basic, all the Wand essentially is, is a more refined version of the WiiMote, like the WiPlus, lol! It doesn't use infra-red like the Wii, so it allows a more depth to it, thats all! look at the youtube video at their pathetic E3 demo!For something so basic, they didn't even demo it on a real game, just a sandbox room with a bunch of objects in it! It was shocking for such a well known hardware company thats the best they could do! Oh & the graphics was BAD!! LOL!

Something thats supposed to be so accurate, the guy couldn't even make any hits? "its so hard" lol! Finally, with the stop sign, if he had missed that, it would have been game over then and there! LOL! Ok someone tell me how that so is amazing different from the Wii? That wasnt laggy? LOL, worse it was so inaccurate! Wasnt even demoed on a real game! JEEZE!! I really don;t see the innovation or the fascination there! The MS E3 not only did they demo much more ADVANCED hardware, I mean light years ahead of that pathetic wand, they demoed it with real games, that was much more graphically superior to that sandbox crap that Sony showed! They even demoed Milo, which they created in 3 or so months! lol!!! I'm sorry but that puts Sony to shame! They demoed it for far much longer, which clearly run much better than that ps3 wand, which did not even demo for that long! Even in that short time-frame it showed just low glitchy it was! Look it up on youtube!

Next, the Facebook/Twitter, etc This is funny, your sitting there repping the PS3 for having a browser? Ok let me remind you the Xbox 360 has a dedicated APP for the facebook, twitter, last.fm and Netflix (not a DVD). Just because you have a browser doesn't mean you have the same thing as what xbox 360 offers! I mean seriously, are you that stupid? REALLY?! I don't go on my iPhone and jump into safari to use facebook or twitter, I load the APP to use it! LOL!!! How pathetic do you sound to sit there and say the PS3 has the same features as the xbox 360 with regards to facebook/twitter! We have APPLICATIONS for those services not using the lame browse that PS3 uses!! MS owns 30% of Facebook, do you really think your going to get a dedicated APP for the PS3, I don't think SOOO!!! go do your homework mate! Its like jumping on the Wii Opera browser an using facebook, its nothing to hoot about!its just like using any browser!! All those services you stated aren't dedicated services!they are just things anyone can access if they have a browser!! lol!! ican do all that on safari using my iPhone, what makes the iPhone so special is that it has APPS!!!!!! APPS!!!! The xbox 360 has proper APPS for all its services, not a poxy browser! Our apps are integrated like MSN messenger with the xbox live friends list (its a MS product, it will only ever be supported on the Xbox 360! The xbox 360 has the ability to share information since the gamertag is assigned to the hotmail email address, so information is shared across xbox.com, MSN messnger, Windows Mobile, Windows, and so on! This is called seamless integration! You will never get the Sky Player or BBC iPlayer service like the xbox 360 does & will!

Xbox Live is a premium service, and it's only going to be greater with the release of NATAL, we have the biggest catalog of arcade games and not only do we have movies, shows, programmes on demand, our entire catalog is INSTANT-ON 1080P playback. That is what you call innovation, playing Dark Knight instantly in 1080p in literally a second is something the PS3 cannot contend with no matter how many films or shows you have! We have the integration of watching it with family and friends in a virtual cinema of up to 8 members, with the ability to show emotions, and talk while in sync with the film, no lag, and the party members can leave and come back, pause, rewind & play anytime during the show! Thats what you call real innovation!

Go ahead, if you don't believe me, watch the above youtube video! Its the same with sky player, above too! These are real apps, that offer a premium service! As a result, it just shows how much the PSN is trailing behind Xbox Live LOL!I can give you a list of how Sony plays catch-up!

First of the their XMB, didn't even support cross-chat, they could only chat in game. Where the xbox 360 was shipped with cross-chat whether one person is in game or the other person was watching a DVD, listening to music or even looking at photos.

Second, Sony couldn't support music playback, during a game or chat for a very long time since its launch, whereas xbox 360 had it out the box since launch.

They copied MS with the chat pad, which MS had released first, sony also copied the Video Marketplace, as well as the Xbox Live game marketplace. Sony always were notorious for always trailing behind. People always go on about Sony's integrated WiFi, but what alot of people don't realise is, the poor performance of it. Yes the xbox 360 Wi-Fi adaptor is sold separately, but it's performance is far more greater than the inbuilt WiFi that all PS3's have. The worst thing is that you don't have a choice, you have to stick with it since its inbuilt. Alot of people find that the xbox 360 wireless adaptor is much faster than the PS3 adaptor! Its slow and the performance is awful in comparison. The MS had the Wireless G, even though it was Wireless G, it could stream HD content at a reasonable level, whereas the PS3 inbuilt is wireless G too, but stutters a great deal during HD streaming! To download a content via the PS3 wifi takes much longer than the xbox 360 adaptor does! & since the xbox 360 is optional and therefore external, people can now upgrade to the Wireless N adaptor that MS has now released for the same price as the old Wireless G! Consumer flexibility comes into play, it always has with MS!

These are some of the things Sony arrives late with, lets look at SKUs for example, MS released a 60GB & a 120GB, and now a 250GB SKU. Sony initially released a 80GB & a 40GB SKU, then stopped manufacturing the 80GB for a long time since they could not afford to produce them, and stuck with the 40GB SKU only! When MS upgraded, they re-released their 80GB version and now with the slim tried to compete with the MS releasing a 120GB version. When MS announced the 250GB Modern Warfare & Forza 250GB model, sony copied straight away & released a burnout 250GB PS3 model for £300. I really don't call this cheaper than the xbox 360. a 250GB xbox 360 is only £250 with a game, custom paint job, headset, and custom controller and the 120GB SKU with 4 Blockbuster games & a controller is £200 with headset, etc!

I really don't see how it is well built, Sony still looses $30 per slimline model made, as apposed to the $50 they were loosing with their original model. Thats not a great business model, and I really don't see Sony succeeding in anyway whatsoever this generation.

The slimline sales have so far proven to outsell xbox 360 in Japan & Europe only, it clearly looks like to me that the same people who have a PS3 are selling their old one & buying the slimline. I believe this because the PS3 software sales havn't really improved after shifting all those consoles since its launch a few months ago. And maybe people are merely buying it for its bluray player only!

Anyway, moving on to the lame PSN, my mate has a 24MEG connection, they both do...i really dont call that a crappy speed! LOL! I can play live while downloading, lol!! its clearly not robust, it doesn't have the complexity and the performance of xbox live! We have the dedicated servers to support many more millions of players that PSN cannot! PLEASEEE!!!! Modern warfare 2 does not play better on the PS3 than the xbox 360!! HAHAHA thats a joke! not only does the COD6 on the xbox 360 support double the players than the PSN and still runs better! It just shows how well the xbox live works! Xbox live supports a much larger user base than the PSN and thats a fact and please, you will only look pathetically stupid if you sit there and state 2 me that the PSN has just as many users online than Xbox Live! People play for a premium service for real apps and proper content and great performance, and not a silly little browser that claims to have all those apps that xbox 360 has! That does not mean the PSN has all those services, its not dedicated, LOL!!!!

You can sit there and claim the PSN is superior, but xbox live is globally superior to any other online gaming service! Nothing has come close to competing with xbox live! Xbox live is ever growing and none of those people who pay for live seems to be complaining, even at that price! LOL!!

Oh please the whole COD6 glitch thing is so lame, are you really that desperate to come at with me with such a stupid argument, I really don't care, about glitches & patches, I'm on COD6 24/7 and I haven't complained! No1 seems to be complaining since we have way more COD6 players playing on xbox live than the PSN & guess what, NO LAG! LOL! If you want to talk about who gets what first, then lets talk, do you really want a reminder how many games came on the xbox 360 first before the PS3? Oh & how many exclusives have been stolen from PS3, LOL!!!!! HAHA please do yourself a favour & go bum sum1 on HOME!

Oh lol and as for the PSN awards, HAHAHA, you have no real awards, please do us a favor and name me one, just one?!! an award is clearly not the same thing as a world record, lol! come on jeeze!!! Your integrity has seriously gone down the drain after all that, you clearly just wasted your time! I bet you really thought you were on a great run there. All you did was waste your time, especially writing up all those games that nobody has even heard of and have even release dates for. Oh wait i think you maybe forgot Killzone 4, LOL!!

Complete Fanboi BS above that took 5 posts to chat about. Not being funny but all that was crap, and to be honest no matter what you have said, that poster ( LBDz ) is right about what he said before hand.

Thats just a few of the things thats coming.PS3 this year could take over 360 in console sales, and may even end XBL in the next 5 years, unless MS makes a come back and makes XBL free to play online gaming.

LBDZ is talking real? really? I think the guy who seems to be licking some rear-ends, clearly doesn't know anything LOL! ok then, LBDZ, atleast come at me with some of the points I made or even answer some of my questions I laid out for you! yes it took 5 posts, but thats how much the xbox tears into the PS3, its needed 2 put you Sony fanboys in your place. Your console is still trailing but u still act like your the PS3 is ever successful, and you 4get the competition Sony is up against, which is MS!! MS has only had the experience of learning from ONE console release and its still whooping Sony's ass! Even without a blu-ray player! & still dominates GAME SALES!!!!!! LOL! check this the biggest game of 2009 COD6:

according to Activision’s Chief Operations Officer Dennis Durkin, "Initial feedback from retailers is that Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 [on Xbox 360] has outsold the PS3 2:1," and is also played by significantly more players on Xbox Live as opposed to PSN. "Despite being a multiplatform launch, I have a feeling Modern Warfare 2 will remain a daunting 360 favorite both online and off for sometime to come."

HAHAH, please come at me with a decent argument plz!!! Its amazing how a free service STILL CNT beat a PAID PREMIUM SERVICE!!! THATS JUST LAME!! It just shows how on top of the GAME MS are & awesome XBOX LIVE is!!!!

Anyway PEACE!!! carry on bickering about the ps3 like blonde bimbos! I find it entertaining, cuz no one here can still come at me and challenge my arguments against the PS3 & its failures! Do your HOMEWORK first, rather than coming out with a load of arse-licking!

Whopping sonys arse in USA ONLY mate. NOT the rest of Europe. Also the 5 posts you made were from a fanboi view. Your talks as someone else also pointed out are nothing but far from the truth, and nothing but fanboi points of views.

FACT is PS3 has MORE than the 360 in the game department coming 2010. Is this why theres no list from you and just 5 posts of FANBOI excuses.

Also the PS3 is not trailing behind 360 at all. The PS3 ( IN THE SAME TIME SPAN ) has been outselling the 360. The ONLY country that 360 is strong is in the USA as said above. The rest of Europe is PS3. lol. Even in USA people are seeing the PS3 as a VERY good console now, where before hand they didn't.

You talk about COD6 ( MW2 ) The FACT is the game online plays better on PS3 also. Even after patch 1.07 ( RELEASED FOR PS3 BEFORE 360 ) people on the 360 complain of how bad the game is with glitches online. LMAO. Now that game is being compared to Lag Of War 2 ( Gears of war 2 ). What would your (( Chief Operations Officer Dennis Durkin,)) say about that then. You don't get the multi-player glitches on PS3, nor do you get being FORCED into a GLITCH game like the 360 has done so to MANY people.

You talked about Netflix. Well i hate to say it, But on PSN YOU CAN USE IT FOR FREE ON YOUR PS3, as there is NOT a subscription charge for using it on the console unlike the charges you get from XBL / 360. Which is also why 360 WILL NOT be getting BBC iplayer for the SAME REASONS.

Mandatory installation is no more.( Uncharted 2 ) And if you do research you'll see that soon MS will be doing this on the 360 due to LIMITED DISC SPACE on their console. Also the PS3 doesn't have a standard GPU. LOOK IT UP. It works with the CELL CPU, thats why the CELL can do shadows, textures ect.

This video shows it's ideas and functions that where being tested for the PS2, just in a different name ect.

The reason that the 360 has dedicated APP like Facebook twitter ect, is because you have NOT got the freedom to use the INTERNET BROWSER on a 360 console. You get a Bummed down APP version compared to the full PS3 versions. YOUTUBE ANYONE PMSL !!

You can use other wireless dongles on PS3, your not STUCK with the built in one at all. LMAO ! Like you don't need the CHAT PAD as you can use a Mouse and Keyboard like i am doing right now FROM MY PS3.

Premium service ( as show above in my other posts ) are coming to PSN, and when it does THIS YEAR, thats when PSN and PS3 will out do XBL. Your getting more for your money with this (( http://www.gamesonsmash.com/?p=13394 )).

Now PSN is only 3 years old, XBL is 7 years old. YET in the same time span PSN has given more to it’s members than what XBL have done so. Looks to me that PSN is getting bigger better than what XBL is. (( 33 million members on PSN / 20 million on XBL )) PSN also has more features in it’s network that console owners want. (( Game Sharing as example )) I really think that PSN and the PS3 will be massive hits this 2010, and with a small fee, you get much more than what XBL offers to date.

Look at the end of the end of the day, sales talk and so does the number of members playing games on XBL. It is clear that 33 million is the number of registered users & not active users lol, since its FREE! I don't see no clear evidence, all I see is a fanboi who can't back up with he is sayin with facts! LOL! your just wasting ur time, all you can do is ramble & ramble bow the PSN & how u think its good. But numbers talk at the end of the day, the sales of games & exclusives talk! You talk bow how the PS3 has been dominating sales recently, but its funny how the XBOX has been outselling multi-platform games almost 2:1! Thats a joke mate, 2:1!!!!! ur sittin there doin all the rambling, but nuffin 2 back it up with! There is the reason why xbox live has won major awards & recognised as the beast of online platform & why more ppl play cod6, cod5, GTA4, COD4, FIFA10, & more on XBL than the PSN, even with ur claims about severe glitches LOL 4 COD!!!

YES 7 years old & people r still happy 2 pay for the service :D lol! The first online service 2 offer DLCs LOL!!! OMG the PSN OFFER MORE????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! OMG DATS BY FAR THE BIGGEST LOAD OF BS IVE PROBLY HEARD THRU THIS ENTIRE POST!!!! YOU STILL HAVE A LAME PSP INTERFACE ON THE PS3 & YOU TALK ABOUT MORE FEATURES?????????? HAHAHAHA!!!!!! JUST WHEN I THOUGHT I HEARD ALL THE BS, IT JUST GETS WORSE!

mate not every1 is that stupid 2 pay for a shit online service THAT you claim is so shit!!!HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! its called common sense!

PLease HUSH, we have dedicated APP because we have da licensing 4 it!!! LOL!! just stick 2 dat crappy browse & claim ur av the same service, you couldnt get any more stupid right nw! BUMBED DWN APP VERSION?? YE THE IPHONE IS SO GREAT BECAUSE IT HAS A BROWSE........ERRRRR.....NOO!!!!!! LOL WHY IS THE IPHONE GREAT? CUZ IT HAS APPS!!! LOL!!! LIKE ID USE SAFARI FOR FACEBOOK, TWITTER & LAST.FM. HAHA! YE LIKE ALL THE DEVELOPERS ARE STUPID FOR CREATING APPS EVEN THOUGH THE IPHONE HAS A BROWSER!!LOL!!!! YE ID RATHER USE SAFARI THAN DWNLOAD THE FACEBOOK APP ON THE IPHONE- EEEERRRRR NO!!!!! IF YOU DONT GET IT NOW, YOU NEVER WILL MATE!

how crappy must it b 2 sit there & toggle the mouse, lol!!!! id rather just press buttons mate & i think most consumers wud when they r sittin on their sofas! We have notebooks & PCs with a touchpad or a mouse to use facebook on a browse! & why on earth wud u have a mouse & keyboard connected 2 a console???? this is why sony released a crappy chat-pad because ppl arent that sad 2 hook up a keyboard...its a freaking gaming console for crying out loud NOT A PC!!!!!!! LOL!!!! WHY WUD U HAVE A BROWSER ON A GAMING CONSOLE!!!!!!

HOW STUPID CAN ANY1 GET 2 AGREE WITH LBDz posts especially with his BS denting his integrity??? MAN talk bow a BS POST! NO EVIDENCE wutsoever! Cum on be a real fanboy & dnt post BS!

What a joke. You show nothing but BS and immaturity, with a young fanboi reply to my posts. ( Thanks the gods he isn't on PSN )

My posts are not from a fanboi view at all. They are factual based points of views from someone that owns both console and NOT getting pulled into the fanboi world of gaming. A real gaming ( unlike you )uses more than one console and can see the pros and cons for each. THATS my point of view.

Also about you saying (( dedicated APP because we have da licensing 4 it )) Don't talk silly mate. Apps can be on ANY console and ANY platform. You have APPS on 360 due to NO INTERNET ACCESS. sorry, it's a fact.It's also a FACT that we have some APPS on the PS3 also. lmao!! ( VidZone anyone )

Not being funny, but it’s not all about games anymore. The PS3 has more Exclusive games coming out than the 360, sorry but it’s a fact, and 3D gaming is coming to PS3 this year from a console update ( HDMI 1.4 ).

Also the WAND is about to show it’s self this year,which is more pixel perfect than the NATAL project, and is better used by Hardcore gamers as well as Casual gamers, than what NATAL will be. You get no lag on the WAND where NATAL has really bad lag. Even if they made NATAL with no lag ( which they can’t do ) people coming home from work all day wouldn’t want to run around the room playing FIFA will they ? They would rather sit down and relax while gaming. NATAL will not save 360, but making SILVER ACCOUNTS FREE to play online could do.?

The new PSN Premium that could make XBL look old in comparison.

(( http://www.gamesonsmash.com/?p=13394 )) = PSN Premium Features.

To be honest, if you way up the pros and cons of both consoles the PS3 is now the better console to own. If you look at the free PSN gaming your get now, and the new PSN premium coming for EXTRA features this year, PS3 users will soon have the best of both worlds. XBL as it stands now once the PSN offers this Premium Sub- to users/members will be left out in the cold.

To be honest HOME holds lots of gaming features. You can play FREE arcade games, play bowling, play Chess, play pool, loads loads more stuff. You get to watch film trailers, with behind the scenes extras also. You also pre-order bonuses for PS3 games in HOME, like free costumes, Avatar Skins, ect. Also If users pre-order Darksiders, they will receive a Ruin Head Mask and War Costume for example. So HOME is always getting updated. Also HOME is a really good place to meet other gamers. I have added so many people onto my friends list from HOME it’s unreal.

Also each user has a Personal Space, called a “HomeSpace”, which they can modify and change any time they are in it. Also users that own BATMAN AA, can unlock a special Batman: Arkham Asylum Batcave Outpost personal apartment in HOME. Just adds to the rewards of your gaming really.

“Trophy Rooms”.will be added soon to HOME. The Trophy Room is a Personal Space where users are able to display 3D representations of their Trophies. So you can invite other PS3 users into your space and show off your Trophies.

Home also has “Game Spaces” for specific games. These spaces generally depict a level of the game itself and have mini-games or interactions related to the game. More will be getting released soon. 25 Game Spaces are in HOME at the moment.

Also PSN users can ” Game Share ” their DLC bought form PSN with 5 active consoles.

So heres an example…

I bought Battlefield 1943 for £6.29. I let 4 of my friends share my bought game. They now don’t have to pay to play that game. Now my friend bought Trine for £7.99 and Game Shared with me. So i have TWO games for the price i paid of ONE game £6.29.

The other thing is the XMB is much faster than what the NXE is. Also the XMB has more features than the NXE.? It’s more of a grow up interface on PS3.

OMG.....u say I talk BS, u have not even once backed up what your saying...its literally boring me! HOME is utter crap, its bollux, I have a PS3 and all I ever used it for was 2 play blu-ray, not even the free PSN. II feel ashamed for it as a 3rd gen gamer even when it loads up. The interface is a pile of shit. You can tell Sony isn't much of a software company! So there isnt much of a sense of innovation anywhere! LOL! As soon as you have said the WAND is lag-free, I started laughing, how do you even know that? this is exactly what I mean, SONY hasnt really revealed much have they, its all nonsense, nothing revolutionary with the WAND! & wtf is pixel perfect, how do u even no? ur jus talking out ur arse now? Atleast Project Natal is highly recognized as a revolutionary hardware, 20 years in the making and all the early reviews for it has been nothing but positive! wtf has Natal achieved apart from looking like an ugly Wiimote? NOTHING? Pixel perfect, lag-free my arse! how can you say NATAL is lag free when there has been any complaints from it! Its still hasnt been released yet, and wnt be until xmas 2010, how wtf can u even judge it! STOP hating and bumb ppl on HOME!

HOME IS too lame, its incredible how lame it is, its not even integrated, it runs as a separate APP. I have a few mates that bum the PS3 like you do, and even they had the brains to say atleast that HOME IS a pile of shit! LOL!

NO we xbox doesnt have a browser because its a CONSOLE not a PC!!!!!! MATE, id rather have an app, then use that pathetic toggle on the DS3 to move the mouse pointer around and click links! its lame, id rather sit there on my couch & press buttons! ur sooo delusional and arrogant that you cant even see that! LOL! like I sed the iPhone is the perfect example of APPS, it has the option of a browser, but its still has APPS, we have APPS not because we dnt have a browser, but because APPS are better!!!! LOL!!!! god its like debating with and air-head!

Oh & bk to how MS will be having mandatory installations, well I still havnt seen that time come yet, but say if it DOES, and i will consider ur word for it...Will people be surprised? Its a 3rd gen console running on DVD9s, using technology that was alrdy existing....but you wouldn't expect mandatory installation on a 30-50GB Bluray drive, its sounds freaking RIDICULOUS!!! its suposed to be this new great technology that can store up to 30-50GB, yet it still will require some of the console HDD space for the game to run. I'm sorry but SONY thats embarrassing, they over-hyped the bluray as a technological revolution, but it still seems to be running like a stone age drive....SLOW!

Look who cares about sharing DLCs, seriously? Its nothing revolutionary...and off course you can purchase movies on the ZUNE MARKETPLACE on the xbox, not just rent, tv shows, and movies. Seriously, where are you getting your info from? A sony fanboy site again the xbox or something? I tell you what is revolutionary...and its not HOME, lol...is the ability to play 1080p movies, within a second (I mean stream over live) HAHAHA! thats what you call premium service! no lag, no time wasting, just INSTANT! & on top of that, being able to watch the same movie, instantly in SYNC with up to 8 friends over live!!!! thats revolutionary tech mate!

OMG just when i thought HOME was lame, trophy room is just a waste of space, who will be sad enough to go into someones trophy room and check out their trophies in 3D????!!!!!! i mean com on seriously????? is this suposed 2 b something so crazy its supposed to put the xbox down or something??? haha! firstly, SONY copied the idea of achievements from XBOX (who had it since launch) and renamed it TROPHIES!!! LOL!!! because they new the concept of achievements was too great so they had to copy it! thats how lame SONY are, they just pick up the bread-crumbs!! its kool tho, cuz thats whats SONY is known for anyway!

Oh and as for you VidZone app or whatever it is, great, you have an APP, good to no! just let me no when you can a facebook app yeah? LOL & then I will look stupid then. APP remember, not a browser ye? It is known that any1 has access to browsers! But APPS are what ppl look for, not toggling the mouse pointer!

Look listen talk about exclusives all you want, the year for BLOCKBUSTER exclusives is 2010, they have real EXCLUSIVES, not some next random game that nobody has even heard of! to be honest, I just cnt b bothered 2 sit here and write a lame list of exclusives & games for the xbox, you will that xbox will be releasing more games this year than the PS3 & more exclusives (WORLDWIDE- not just japan) lol! Besides, MS has nothing to worry bow, they have been outselling SONY in software sales since launch! most of the time 2:1, LOL! every1 prefers the games on the xbox because they play better and have a better online platform & a much better controller for gaming, more battery-life, more balance and comfort anyway! SONY has never beat MS in software sales & MS has the biggest EXCLUSIVES in gaming HISTORY has sells more games than SONY exclusives can dream of selling. thats the facts and thats how it is!!!

THIS year XBOX has more coming for it than the PS3, you will see! 2010 is the year XBOX makes history, with Project NATAL, HALO REACH, GAME ROOM & ALAN WAKE! its thats simple!

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