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July 6, 2007:"Maybe so. We've sniffed around before and couldn't find any real indication that gangs are quite the problem that some people think they are."

Today in the N&R:"Greensboro has a gang problem. The neighbors know it. The police know it. The City Council knows it."

Did anyone tell John? Did the gang problem grow in the last 23 days or is the N&R Editior out of touch with reality? The truth is the gang problem has been a problem for some time. It is now recognized because a few cops were shot at and one was stabbed.

How did the N&R Editor miss this one so badly? Did the Greensboro City Council just discover the gang issue?

Sandy Carmany claimed this issue had her attention in 2005: As a council member who is supposed to know about everything that's going on in town, I was shocked to learn how much I don't know about these problems. Captain Scott's observation that "we have a small fire now, but it could burn the city down" really got my attention. I highly recommend this program to every neighborhood and parent group in Greensboro so you will be better informed about what we and our children are facing. You can reach Detective Cuthbertson at 373-2216 to arrange for this presentation.

Sandy mentioned the problem on her blog but did she do anything about it besides leave the cops phone number?

Greensboro Troublemaker November 2005:

We at the Troublemaker have written several times about gangs forming in Greensboro and the truth about the violence it has produced. We believe that there is a gang problem. Because of this belief we bring to you an actual copy of the Greensboro Police Validated Gang list. The names of the known gang members have been removed.

However, one can still see: the race/age/gang/date validated/who validated them/ and when will they come off the gang list. If a member is validated they are put on the list. Their name is on the list for two years. If they get into trouble during that time, the court will know they have been validated as a gang member. If they stay clean for two years, their names are taken off the list. The list below is some what old and new kids are added and taken off all the time. However, this is a good indicator of what the police specifically know about the gangs we have, the races involved as well as the ages. Enjoy.

If all is kept secret and only once a year do we meet to talk about it then nothing will be solved. The public needs to know about their kids. We need to know about police. We need the facts on the table. Even if we have to steal them from secret police files we will. Government of the people, for the people, by the people.