EVO 2016 details have been revealed now, pretty good mix of games, a little surprised that Pokken is in there so that'll be interesting to see and it's great to see Killer Instinct and Guilty Gear taking a spot too.

Melee gets bigger tournament entries and twitch views than Smash 4. When the two games combined netted evo 3500 entrances last year (the cross over rate between the games wasn't significantly high either) they know it is totally worth keeping, it's also why they are doing Pokken, so they can get more people at evo who wouldn't have gone to evo in the first place. personally I think evo is dumb for doing pokken because the game bombed in arcades, isn't out yet, doesn't have any real hype and will most likely lack a community outside of people who probably would have already gone to evo for Smash 4.
I'm not happy Ultra got dropped but nearly everyone would double dip on both Street Fighter IV and V games if they were both there so Capcom, Sony and Evo probablypulled it to put more attention on Street Fighter V, which sucks and is one of the reasons why players hate the esports machine.

I think I remember seeing before that Capcom didn't necessarily want Ultra in the lineup, I think they really wanted to just push V as the next competitive thing and get more of the Ultra community into that.

Not really sure if Pokkén has enough competitive depth compared to the other games but I guess it will be interesting to see how it does.

I think it's a bit ignorant to say "can the Smash community not move on from Melee already" when Melee and Smash Wii U are like completely different games with their own very distinct communities. They're really only similar in name and base mechanics so if they enjoy playing Melee why should they stop?

Oathkeeper wrote:Not really sure if Pokkén has enough competitive depth compared to the other games but I guess it will be interesting to see how it does.

I think it's a bit ignorant to say "can the Smash community not move on from Melee already" when Melee and Smash Wii U are like completely different games with their own very distinct communities. They're really only similar in name and base mechanics so if they enjoy playing Melee why should they stop?

but you could say the same for third strike, ultra, and sfv, they're all very mechanically different yet people have moved on from third strike.

either way, melee makes bank so it's no surprise that they're keeping it, personally I find it very boring to watch so I'd rather they just moved on to more modern games but if people still enjoy it then people still enjoy it.

I just find it a little odd that we need 2 smash games at evo, yes brawl was bad which is why melee has survived so long but it's a decade old now and it just feels to me like it's more of the same every tourney.

in any case it's not like I'll be watching it so I'll just dedicate my time to sfv, mkx, and ki. Hopefully someone will run a side tourney for skullgirls and ultimax.

also I don't really know what to think about pokken, as stated by other members not sure how much depth the game actually has but it looks a little more kiddy than other fighters, almost like playing Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm at evo but then again I'm talking out my ass and don't know anything.

Oathkeeper wrote:
I think it's a bit ignorant to say "can the Smash community not move on from Melee already" when Melee and Smash Wii U are like completely different games with their own very distinct communities.

No they haven't, Third Strike still has a competitive community and gets a decent amount of play still.

I mean like you say, melee makes money and gets views which is the point of EVO at the end of the day, plus it has a pretty massive competitive community.

Not much point in complaining about Ultimax or Skullgirls not getting rep though. Ultimax is an anime fighter and usually they struggle to get much of a look in, but this time we have GGXrd:Revelator, the chances of us getting two anime fighters is pretty slim, plus while Ultimax is a great fighter, it doesn't have much in the way of a super active community. Skullgirls would be great but eh, with the lineup we have can't really complain about it's absence, it's not a big pull for a main stage title comparatively. And the great thing, if a fighting game is good and it has the community, yeah, there will just be a side tour for it since end of the day there's 9 main billing slots and plenty of games to pick from.

by moved on I mostly meant that the sf4 userbase is larger and pretty soon sfv will be building up in popularity. sure it still has a community that wants it but that community is smaller than the community that wants sf4, once again I could be talking out my ass but I see a ton more sf4 players than third strike players at this stage.

I wasn't so much complaining about the lack of ultimax and skullgirls, I knew I shouldn't have got my hopes up but I thought it had a slim chance after getting in last year, I'm sure there will be side tourneys for it regardless, although, I could be mistaken as it seems a lot of players have moved on to 2.0 at this stage which kinda sucks because I think it has a slim chance of western console release and the new shadow mechanics are kinda insane, giving them a burst back and giving them an unburstable combo was taking a class of characters that were underpowered, and buffing them far too much, honestly, I don't know why they didn't give them that unburstable combo but keep their lack of a burst consistent, that way they'd be heavily pressure based characters, giving them the buff they needed but not making them too strong. From what I've read, it seems like they're gonna be ridiculously op, to the point that it isn't even worth using the regular forms anymore.

Watching the top 8 in the KI World Cup, really great stuff so far. It's great to see all the characters getting represented and KI at high levels is always insane to watch, really builds the hype for the PC release.

There's apparently been a leak from a Spanish games reviewer who claims the full version of Street Fighter V now supports PS3 stick on PS4. If that's true then I have no reason not to get the game (unless the PC port is eton mess that is).