Girls that age are evil, evil spawns of satan. I'm sure they don't even know why they act the way they do. In my day, I could at least go home and get away from that crap. I can't imagine being that age today and having to deal with that on the phone and online.

EmmaLou:Girls that age are evil, evil spawns of satan. I'm sure they don't even know why they act the way they do. In my day, I could at least go home and get away from that crap. I can't imagine being that age today and having to deal with that on the phone and online.

Yeah, turning off the phone and PC is hard. If everyone that gets bullied killed themselves we would cease to exist. Some people have issues that they can't get over and we are quick to blame outside influences for what is often poor parenting. Not sure if that is the case here, but I'm finding it harder and harder to find sympathy anymore, nobody accepts any responsibilities.

And now the mom is going to pretend to her daughter and murder the future students of Crystal Lake. But then she's going to die. But then the 12 year old daughter is going to resurrect and murder all the future students of Crystal Lake. But then she dies. But then an EMT pretends to be the daughter and kills a few students. But then he dies. But then the daughter comes back, and this time she's immortal. She takes Manhattan, she goes to Hell. And then they're in space.

I just don't understand how someone can be bullied online. How does that even happen? I guess facebook, but if people are acting like idiots, you block them. That's the end of that. How else can one be bullied online?

oukewldave:I just don't understand how someone can be bullied online. How does that even happen? I guess facebook, but if people are acting like idiots, you block them. That's the end of that. How else can one be bullied online?

That only works if you can vent all your friends and everyone you know to block that asshat too

oukewldave:I just don't understand how someone can be bullied online. How does that even happen? I guess facebook, but if people are acting like idiots, you block them. That's the end of that. How else can one be bullied online?

This proliferation of single-parent homes in which the mother is the only one taking care of the children and fathers are only around 2 weekends a month is not only disastrous to boys, but it's also catastrophic to young girls. Without a strong, stabilizing force like a father in the home, these children are raised by mercurial women who are stretched to the limit between supporting the household by working and managing the household after work.

Who was there to talk to this girl when the bullying got too bad? Who was there to tell her that girls are idiots (no offense intended) and that this kind of stuff will pass eventually? Who was there to consider moving to another district to get her out of that poisonous school?

"I blame myself" says this girl's mother. But you can't blame the mother for everything that happened. She's at her wit's end as it is, juggling a career and motherhood.

It's tragic and indicative of a much deeper problem in American society.

69gnarkill69:Yeah, turning off the phone and PC is hard. If everyone that gets bullied killed themselves we would cease to exist. Some people have issues that they can't get over and we are quick to blame outside influences for what is often poor parenting. Not sure if that is the case here, but I'm finding it harder and harder to find sympathy anymore, nobody accepts any responsibilities.

AverageAmericanGuy:This proliferation of single-parent homes in which the mother is the only one taking care of the children and fathers are only around 2 weekends a month is not only disastrous to boys, but it's also catastrophic to young girls. Without a strong, stabilizing force like a father in the home, these children are raised by mercurial women who are stretched to the limit between supporting the household by working and managing the household after work.

Who was there to talk to this girl when the bullying got too bad? Who was there to tell her that girls are idiots (no offense intended) and that this kind of stuff will pass eventually? Who was there to consider moving to another district to get her out of that poisonous school?

"I blame myself" says this girl's mother. But you can't blame the mother for everything that happened. She's at her wit's end as it is, juggling a career and motherhood.

It's tragic and indicative of a much deeper problem in American society.

Acidicnads:I hope the other middle school girls who did this to her are tried as adults and put in prison for 20 to 30 years for homicide

That's my gut reaction but it's the wrong one. If I'm her parent and it has gotten out of control, I'm going over to each of those kids' parents' houses and talking to each of them. In person.

Secondly, my kid is going to know how to fight those little sh*ts and prevent people from getting access to places she frequents online. Privacy controls, people.

If all of that doesn't work I guess it's time to go to cyberwar with the cyberbullies, hack those biatches computers and cell phones and make their little insignificant lives a living hell, sign them up for spam accounts, get them into some Nigerian 419 scams, DDOS attack their IPs with legions of botnets, maybe put 40000 minutes on little Susie's cell phone.

I've always heard "kah kah kah kah, ch ch ch ch." Also, it doesn't matter what the composer intended, it doesn't magically change what the sound actually is. He may have WANTED it to sound like "ki ki ki ki ma ma ma ma," but that's not how it came out.

AverageAmericanGuy:This proliferation of single-parent homes in which the mother is the only one taking care of the children and fathers are only around 2 weekends a month is not only disastrous to boys, but it's also catastrophic to young girls. Without a strong, stabilizing force like a father in the home, these children are raised by mercurial women who are stretched to the limit between supporting the household by working and managing the household after work.

Who was there to talk to this girl when the bullying got too bad? Who was there to tell her that girls are idiots (no offense intended) and that this kind of stuff will pass eventually? Who was there to consider moving to another district to get her out of that poisonous school?

"I blame myself" says this girl's mother. But you can't blame the mother for everything that happened. She's at her wit's end as it is, juggling a career and motherhood.

It's tragic and indicative of a much deeper problem in American society.

I know plenty of single mothers who did just fine raising their children into healthy smart confident non-suicidal adults.

bdub77:Acidicnads: I hope the other middle school girls who did this to her are tried as adults and put in prison for 20 to 30 years for homicide

That's my gut reaction but it's the wrong one. If I'm her parent and it has gotten out of control, I'm going over to each of those kids' parents' houses and talking to each of them. In person.

Secondly, my kid is going to know how to fight those little sh*ts and prevent people from getting access to places she frequents online. Privacy controls, people.

If all of that doesn't work I guess it's time to go to cyberwar with the cyberbullies, hack those biatches computers and cell phones and make their little insignificant lives a living hell, sign them up for spam accounts, get them into some Nigerian 419 scams, DDOS attack their IPs with legions of botnets, maybe put 40000 minutes on little Susie's cell phone.

Everyone is going to be a dick occasionally. People have bad days, just rub each other wrong, occasionally lash out for unrelated reasons, or are just innately dicks.

A very small percentage of people have occasional bouts of depression and lack the training to deal emotionally with other people being dicks to them.

... I'm kind of thinking that if you're trying to attack the problem from the first angle that you have kind of a poor grasp of the most effective way to approach the problem. Finding the people that are screwed-up or vulnerable enough to react to teasing with catastrophic personal existence failure and patching at that end (giving them support networks artificially by enrolling them in clubs, for instance) is clearly the only remotely viable way to deal with this. "Making everyone magically never a dick" is not anywhere close to workable.

you are a puppet:And now the mom is going to pretend to her daughter and murder the future students of Crystal Lake. But then she's going to die. But then the 12 year old daughter is going to resurrect and murder all the future students of Crystal Lake. But then she dies. But then an EMT pretends to be the daughter and kills a few students. But then he dies. But then the daughter comes back, and this time she's immortal. She takes Manhattan, she goes to Hell. And then they're in space.

How do kids get away with this stuff nowadays? If me or any of my fellow students even thought about calling someone a biatch we would be in for a world of shiat. Here there is physical evidence of someone calling someone else a biatch and nothing.

Spare the lash, spoil the child.

/they didn't actually hit most of us in the 80's, but the threat of such actually meant something

oukewldave:I just don't understand how someone can be bullied online. How does that even happen? I guess facebook, but if people are acting like idiots, you block them. That's the end of that. How else can one be bullied online?

mrswood:AverageAmericanGuy: This proliferation of single-parent homes in which the mother is the only one taking care of the children and fathers are only around 2 weekends a month is not only disastrous to boys, but it's also catastrophic to young girls. Without a strong, stabilizing force like a father in the home, these children are raised by mercurial women who are stretched to the limit between supporting the household by working and managing the household after work.

Who was there to talk to this girl when the bullying got too bad? Who was there to tell her that girls are idiots (no offense intended) and that this kind of stuff will pass eventually? Who was there to consider moving to another district to get her out of that poisonous school?

"I blame myself" says this girl's mother. But you can't blame the mother for everything that happened. She's at her wit's end as it is, juggling a career and motherhood.

It's tragic and indicative of a much deeper problem in American society.

I've always heard "kah kah kah kah, ch ch ch ch." Also, it doesn't matter what the composer intended, it doesn't magically change what the sound actually is. He may have WANTED it to sound like "ki ki ki ki ma ma ma ma," but that's not how it came out.

RogermcAllen:How do kids get away with this stuff nowadays? If me or any of my fellow students even thought about calling someone a biatch we would be in for a world of shiat. Here there is physical evidence of someone calling someone else a biatch and nothing.

Spare the lash, spoil the child.

/they didn't actually hit most of us in the 80's, but the threat of such actually meant something

I really don't buy into the whole you have to beat your kid nonsense. You do however have to threaten and back up your threats with action. Like, 'oh hey i heard you were bullying a kid in school, your cell phone has been cut off and you're grounded for a month and no allowance.' And then follow that up with a real talk about what it means to bully someone.

And you have to give your kid some independence to make the right decisions, but when they make the wrong ones you best back your sh*t up.