Actually this makes me think that I'm long over due a noodling session. I'm also long overdue doing some stuff with other people... voice for hire/trade ;-) ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=11020&Focus=350494#Comment_350494Mon, 25 Mar 2013 15:47:28 -0500krushdbugGot some old stuff up here, though I don't call myself that anymore.

Oh, and I also doodle on my iPhone with Xenon and Rhythm, though I kinda think you need the workspace of an iPad for those apps. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=11020&Focus=350510#Comment_350510Mon, 25 Mar 2013 19:30:23 -0500cjkogerProducing Musichttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=11020&Focus=350512#Comment_350512
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=11020&Focus=350542#Comment_350542Tue, 26 Mar 2013 12:23:44 -0500Frowarddalso re: awkward software crashes in clubs: it helps to have a phone or mp3 player looping a song into a muted channel on the board, for quickly fixing the horrible gazes of the thronging sodomites on the dancefloor. (especially for teething issues, new plugins, etc) ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=11020&Focus=350557#Comment_350557Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:50:38 -0500nigredoAs a result, most of my stories revolve around stomping on the wrong pedal or sth... ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=11020&Focus=350565#Comment_350565Tue, 26 Mar 2013 17:49:20 -0500OddcultAfter messing about with the amp and effects settings, what I mostly do is use a real guitar amp or drums and get the sound I want, then mic it up. Doing this since August and I've pretty much done a 13 track album with the band I'm in. For some of it, we've layered loads and loads of individual drum tracks, none of which really has been tweaked all that much, except to add reverb and compression.

Here's one track I'm pretty happy with. Well, I think some of the rhymes are rubbish, but that's the singer's thing, not mine. That's me playing guitar, but fuck knows how many of me that actually is playing how many different guitars. But yeah, I've not exactly been going deep into what can be done with the tech, and I've no real clue about all the clever sound type stuff. I've just been treating it like a multi-track recorder, but getting the sound as decent as possible before it goes in, then trying out different eq and compression presets from the plug-ins.

Feedback welcome (Have we done that joke yet?) as I really don't have a clue what I've been doing and have been making it up as I went along. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=11020&Focus=350605#Comment_350605Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:42:00 -0500FlxzrI make music that not even it's own mother could love, though. My high point is a one-take recording of Chariots of Fire on a Yamaha Electone organ.

Oddcult> I aint no expert but a couple of things really stood out to me, namely the vocals and the cowbell. I'd probably try putting them a bit farther back into the mix. Possibly with a bit less reverb, particularly on the vocal.

what I would say to most people starting out is learn whatever you have really well ,and just get on with it. I have this issue with people who argue with me over video editing packages, it is impossible to be able to tell what editing packagea person used from the end video result.The same goes with music. Nobody knows what you DAW you used really.

So don't let the (COUGH!) -PROTOOL USERS tell you,you are using the wrong thing.

But if you are adamant on trying every music app out there, I would give you thispiece of advice i worked out myself the hard way- think how you input music.ONE WAY....

If you've got a good sense of rhythm, can tap out beats, got some musical chops.Then maybe an MPC samplers, or if you're on a budget a midi keyboard, you can tapmusic in.Midi keyboards are dirt cheap, you can get them from $15-20 up...

"Beginners Drumming on a Midi Keyboard"

"MPC Wizardy"

The major advantage of this is Speed.

Remember J-Dilla considered by other hip hop producers to be the best Hip Hop producer who ever lived (that incudes Pharrell and Timbaland , and DJ Premier !)

J-Dilla most of his songs in 15 MINUTES on an MPC.The whole song. That was considered an urban legend, but it has been confirmed. he left the Mixingto someone else.THE OTHER WAY.....

If you're not that musical.If you like laying out tunes, layering stuff, and even if you like micro managing the groove.and add variation like BURIALThen Abelton is cool, even the audio timeline of a video editor.

You just set it to loop 1 bar continuously , you place the separate audio samples(kick, snare, hi hat etc) on the timeline, and micro shift the kick,snare etc till you got the groove you want. Because it is looping continuously while you are doing this,it will be very clear just by listening when you get to what you want.

When you have 1 perfect bar of groove,then copy everything (kick snare, etc) as a group, copy and paste it over again,and again onto the time line to build the other bars.Then by going back and tweak certain kicks and snares in the pasted loops and you'll start to hear a moving organic groove.

This is a very quick way if you are not musical and can't bang it in on a midi drumkit like a pro-drummer.Or J-Dilla. It is also very easy toadd complexity with very basic starting blocks in a way that's not as easy with an MPC. BURIAL uses very few samples, though it sounds awash with complexity in the way the groove shifts, samples coming in and out.

MIXING is something that no ones really got into on this thread.It is a dark art! You can just be into mixing and never make a tune.But really mixing requires a whole thread by itself.

"Mixing Example"

Oh yes, this: KVR is the best music production community on the internet. I'm a member but no where as active as i am here.

Heri MkochaHttps://www.youtube.com/thearklight ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=11020&Focus=351033#Comment_351033Fri, 05 Apr 2013 09:47:44 -0500Birds_Use_StarsIt's a really good way to get a lot of extra use out of a lower performance computer. Check out some optimization stuff here: http://www.focusrite.com/answerbase/en/article.php?id=1071 ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=11020&Focus=351238#Comment_351238Mon, 08 Apr 2013 17:19:00 -0500magnusisasillyname
OK, this is as good as it's got so far. Feels muddy to me, but I think this tune is as near to finished as any that I've done. It's certainly taken up a lot of the last 4 days of my life.

Yeah, I know there's a bit of coughing in there which needs to come out. This is my attempt at doing British pop-punk. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=11020&Focus=351259#Comment_351259Tue, 09 Apr 2013 04:42:06 -0500LittlepurplegothBut I think that your structure and sound choice is interesting (and listenable).

Possibly 'muddy' because you are missing mid range frequencies in some of it?