Well, in Germany, socialism has not caused any problems. One of the strongest nations now and probably the only one to hold Europe together. The Germany believe, as I do now, there can be socialism and capitalism in a fiscal responsible way.

To me that is a contradiction in terms. I think Thomas Jefferson put it best when he said: "A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have." You would best know because you live there but I simply don't understand how Socialism and Capitalism can long coexist.

01-28-2013, 02:25 AM

N TX Dave

Well if we make guns illegal that will get them off the street right?

Just like it has worked for cocaine, crack and all other drugs correct? Do I have that straight?

To blame guns for killing people is like blaming cars for killing people instead of the drunk drivers or forks for making me fat or it's Hooters fault I like big boobs.

Stop blaming guns. Start teaching the value of human life again. There is just so much violence today TV shows, Movies, video games, real wars being conducted on TV and News media sensationalizing violence in our daily life.

01-28-2013, 03:12 AM

AkChief49

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Originally Posted by N TX Dave

Well if we make guns illegal that will get them off the street right?

Just like it has worked for cocaine, crack and all other drugs correct? Do I have that straight?

To blame guns for killing people is like blaming cars for killing people instead of the drunk drivers or forks for making me fat or it's Hooters fault I like big boobs.

Stop blaming guns. Start teaching the value of human life again. There is just so much violence today TV shows, Movies, video games, real wars being conducted on TV and News media sensationalizing violence in our daily life.

You're making way too much sense!!!:biggrin:

There are more than enough gun laws on the books. If only they chose to enforce them.

On Thursday, January 10, 2013, in the White House meeting of President Obama’s Gun Agenda Task Force, Vice President Joe Biden answered that question, telling NRA’s Director of Federal Affairs, James Baker, that the Obama administration didn’t have time to prosecute people for lying on the federal background check form.In an article in The Daily Caller (1/18/2013) Biden said, “And to your point, Mr. Bakerregarding the lack of prosecutions on lying on Form 4473s, we simply don’t have the time or manpower to prosecute everybody who lies on a form, that checks a wrong box, that answers a question inaccurately.”

Try checking a wrong box on your tax return and see what happens!!

01-28-2013, 01:40 PM

mejohnm

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Originally Posted by Chiefster

To me that is a contradiction in terms. I think Thomas Jefferson put it best when he said: "A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have." You would best know because you live there but I simply don't understand how Socialism and Capitalism can long coexist.

I truly understand your point. When I came here I was a registered Republican. I did not like it at first how I thought things worked here. Then I experienced it. You know the saying, a happy worker is a motivated worker. Well, it is pretty much the same way except it goes for the people.

01-28-2013, 01:42 PM

Chiefster

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Originally Posted by AkChief49

You're making way too much sense!!!:biggrin:

There are more than enough gun laws on the books. If only they chose to enforce them.

On Thursday, January 10, 2013, in the White House meeting of President Obama’s Gun Agenda Task Force, Vice President Joe Biden answered that question, telling NRA’s Director of Federal Affairs, James Baker, that the Obama administration didn’t have time to prosecute people for lying on the federal background check form.In an article in The Daily Caller (1/18/2013) Biden said, “And to your point, Mr. Bakerregarding the lack of prosecutions on lying on Form 4473s, we simply don’t have the time or manpower to prosecute everybody who lies on a form, that checks a wrong box, that answers a question inaccurately.”

Try checking a wrong box on your tax return and see what happens!!

:lol: Good point.

01-28-2013, 01:49 PM

mejohnm

That was one of his executive orders, to start enforcing the laws. I do not see this one ban bill getting passed. I think it is just a stunt. From my time in the military I think some weapons shouldn't be on the streets, legally or illegally.

But when references come out like people getting killed by a drunk driver, makes me wonder if that driver really wanted to kill someone as these last shooters did...

01-28-2013, 01:56 PM

Chiefster

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Originally Posted by mejohnm

I truly understand your point. When I came here I was a registered Republican. I did not like it at first how I thought things worked here. Then I experienced it. You know the saying, a happy worker is a motivated worker. Well, it is pretty much the same way except it goes for the people.

Herein lies the crux of the matter. When you overtax the half of the working class population to pay the non-workers, I'm not talking about those who have paid into the system and are now retired or the disabled, then you have a real problem. Sooner or later what happens is that the dwindling "middle class" becomes extinct as generational users and abusers of the "system" become greater and greater. Our government does absolutely nothing to encourage personal independence and, instead, encourages governmental dependency. As Margarette Thatcher was so eloquently quoted in that video posted above: "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."

It's been suggested that with all that has been going on politically that perhaps it is time to revive this thread. So, I'll start with how I feel about Obama's handling of Syria.

Now becomes evident, to even liberals, the obvious and complete incompetence of this administration, and to think that he was actually awarded a second term. Perhaps if Obama hadn't gone off teleprompter and irresponsibly shot from the lip about red lines putting himself and the nation in a position to contemplate military action against a country that hasn't attacked us just in order to try and salvage what little credibility he had in the first place we wouldn't be in this mess. I am not for taking military action just merely pointing out the ineffectiveness of this administration. However, then a chance for diplomacy arrives when another off teleprompter rhetorical answer, this time by John Kerry, made it possible for Putin to swoop in with his "plan" to bail Obama out of his self made conundrum. I see this whole debacle as nothing more than a ploy by Obama to try and save face, except he'd already lost all credibility and reduced the United States to a global non-factor in the process. Anyone with half a brain knows that when Obama couldn't even get our closest ally, the UK, to follow him down that rabbit hole then unilateral military action against Syria was a bluff the likes that have not been seen since the "bay of pigs". Meanwhile, Putin has been playing Obama like a Stradivarius.