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So having missed the playoff two years in a row, we are now one of the teams that could be made to do Hard Knocks. The other 7 are the Bears, Buccaneers, Browns, Colts, Eagles, Saints and Titans.

I'd be very interested in seeing that. But, odds are our team is too stable (that's the nice way to put that, right?) for them to want to pick and we lost SSSR who would have provided buzz in practices.

So having missed the playoff two years in a row, we are now one of the teams that could be made to do Hard Knocks. The other 7 are the Bears, Buccaneers, Browns, Colts, Eagles, Saints and Titans.

I'd be very interested in seeing that. But, odds are our team is too stable (that's the nice way to put that, right?) for them to want to pick and we lost SSSR who would have provided buzz in practices.

It'll probably be the Bucs or Titans with their up and coming QBs.

I would really like to see us on Hard Knocks, but I would not like the stuff that follows those teams, as they rarely have any succes and it gives other teams a little more insight in dynamics than I would like.

That said, I doubt we are interesting enough or that Harbaugh would think it would be a good idea.

It will be difficult to sell Joe Flacco to an audience, none of our olines seem like much of a tv personality. Our tight ends are mostly goodie2shoes, a hillbilly and mad max ginger. On defense Suggs and Weddle might be entertaining, but that is it._________________Ravens 2017 feat. Flaccid Flaccos speedsters and Dean Peas softies

Being on Hard Knocks would be a new excuse for the Ravens not managing to live up to their expectations so I say, why the hell not?

It'd be fun to watch, and there are some interesting stories to be had from the current team.

Suggs in what might be his last year. Flacco dealing with the pressure of having to live up to his contract, and his boring reputation. Perriman in what has to be a 'prove it' year. Justin Tucker, the World's Most Interesting Kicker. Harbs trying to get the team back into the playoffs. And that's all without the usual rookie stories.

But I agree that the Titans seem most likely, especially with Mariota's recovery from injury._________________

So Zach Orr made 2nd team All-Pro (along with Mosley and an oddly large amount of other linebackers) but good to see.

For as bad a pick as Arthur Brown turned out to be in the 2nd round of 2013, Orr really nullifies the sting. His play has been worthy of a 1st or 2nd round pick if he had been drafted and he's solidified that spot across from Mosley.

The all-pro rating is a bit of a stretch. He got one vote for the all-pro and tied with a bunch of other linebackers who all ended up on the 2nd team.

But, he was good this year. It was his first year starting and he improved in areas like pass coverage as the year went on. Another well rounded backer. We can feel good about the ILB spot going into next year.

Being on Hard Knocks would be a new excuse for the Ravens not managing to live up to their expectations so I say, why the hell not?

It'd be fun to watch, and there are some interesting stories to be had from the current team.

Suggs in what might be his last year. Flacco dealing with the pressure of having to live up to his contract, and his boring reputation. Perriman in what has to be a 'prove it' year. Justin Tucker, the World's Most Interesting Kicker. Harbs trying to get the team back into the playoffs. And that's all without the usual rookie stories.

But I agree that the Titans seem most likely, especially with Mariota's recovery from injury.

I think that if the Ravens are chosen to do Hard Knocks, the NFL will pressure them to 'feature' John Urschel and Justin Tucker as much as possible because they are smarter/more interesting/more cultured than the public perception of the average NFL player.

I don't seem Perriman and Flacco featuring - they aren't good enough or interesting enough.

IIRC, they usually feature a UDFA, a back-up and a 'superstar' (which would be Suggs given he's funny, and there'd be the added element of the possible final season)

That said, I don't want to see the Ravens on Hard Knocks because I think it wouldn't be good TV

What's he been saying? I saw a tweet that he called out Shareece Wright by name which is kinda hilarious.

He's called out Shareece Wright for "getting away from fundamentals" and as an example of someone they put money into that disappointed them this year.

Talked about the 2013 draft where Ozzie has gotten heat for the Elam and Brown selections and acknowledged both were "misses" but stands up for Ozzie with the fact that we got Williams/Juice/Wagner with the next 3.

Said coaches need to coach better, Ozzie and Eric need to draft better, and Joe needs to play better.

When directly asked whether he'd make broad sweeping changes if we disappoint next year, he was kind of vague but had kind of a smirk that lets you know that he isn't afraid to do it.

It's definitely worth a watch. It's nice to see an owner balance the line between trusting his guys to turn it around but at the same time publicly saying they're on the hot seat._________________

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Vinny Cerrato was talking about the press conference on the radio and said "sounded to me like Wallace won't be back". I didn't necessarily come away with that feeling, anyone else? And where does everyone stand on Wallace returning? I also felt it was a foregone conclusion but that comment by Cerrato threw me for a loop.

He also said he thought it sounded like the Ravens were still looking for "the guy" @ RB.

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