However, I do remember Obama saying on live national television in a debate with John McCain that he would in fact sit down and talk to
Mahmoud.

I remember. He said that and then McCain went on a rant as to how it was a bad idea and how could anyone want a president that would do such dangerous
things.

Obama said he would talk to Amadinejad. So basically if he were to refuse he would not only be proving his cowardice but also breaking yet another
promise to the American people. (albeit a dumb promise, but a promise nonetheless)

If this does in fact take place then you will find me on my couch with a massive mountain of popcorn.

Sorry to burst everyone's bubbles. I have been holding out on commenting too much in this thread, but a public debate is a bad idea.

As much as we would love to know exactly what is being said, the second something goes public it is turned into a PR event. Obama would have to
tailor his words to fit in with the November elections. Ahmadinejad would have to pick his words to appease the hardliner crowd in Iran.

I think that we could all agree that in any real talks we would like to see some actual progress being made. Furthermore, the US simply has much more
to lose than to gain from public debates. The US is a superpower as far as the modern world is concerned. With that being said, the US inevitably
has more issues that are going to be up for discussion. It would be impossible for Obama to prepare a defense for everything that could be brought
up. That's just the simple truth.

Another truth is that this challenge to a debate hardly made it to the front page of US news sites. Nobody cares. You guys are free to say that if
Obama dose not accept this debate than you will think hes is a "(insert negative comment)." Think what you want, everybody including Ahmadinejad
knew that this debate was never going to happen. As far as I am concerned, Ahmadinejad made this challenge as a PR event to get into a few headlines.

but during a live debate between 2 peoples ...
no answers can be arranged/scripted
only the questions

while in a sense this is true, they would spend hours coming up with answers for any hypothetical questions that would be asked, and a team of people
would be there to ensure that they had the answers they wanted to use, on hand, when they were needed

Originally posted by Yagerbombs
I hate Obama, but this numb # from Iran is a douche bag!

Iran is the problem.. (srs)

Their theocratic government is the problem.

fortunately, the youth of that crappy nation are starting to rise up. hopefully they can take it back from the religious ideologists!

they both are douchbag
but Amhadinejad is a better leader for his country interests
Obama is a pussy ..
i had hope in the guy ... now he only disgust me
but he did approve the mosque in NYC
a little glimpse of hope ??? nah he need to prove it more

Originally posted by Ben81
Obama is a pussy ..
i had hope in the guy ... now he only disgust me but he did approve the mosque in NYC
a little glimpse of hope ??? nah he need to prove it more

I've just posted information about the mosque on another thread but I think it's important enough to repeat it here as you've brought it up.

Tony Cartalucci's article The "Ground Zero Mosque:" Why you
should really be angry provides an in-depth report on the funding sources for the mosque that will be known officially as Cordoba House. He
makes it clear that the mosque is being funded and built by the very people who profited from the destruction of the WTC. The clear conclusion based
on the supporters and the timing is that this project will serve the elite's agenda to refocus Americans on the "shock and awe" of 9/11 and the
"threat" of Islam in the runup to the elections, as well as the buildup to new wars in Iran, North Korea, Yemen, Somalia, etc.

Feisal Abdul Rauf's membership in the CFR along with the various globalist foundations funding the ASMA and Cordoba Initiative point to the
building of the Cordoba House as a deliberate and provocative move by the globalist elite to create more fear, anger, and hatred towards Muslims while
expanding the manufactured "clash of civilizations."

Angry Americans will continue viewing Islam as an irrational, omnipresent enemy constantly menacing them. They will continue to believe that
war and the erosion of their own natural rights are the only answers to this manufactured crisis. In reality the global elite that compose the CFR are
consolidating their control over humanity. They realize the effect of 9/11 on America's psyche is fading and they sincerely hope that by building the
provocative Cordoba House, emotions and ignorance will rule the day and their wars and crimes will carry on in earnest, completely justified in the
minds of the witless masses.

Many of these corporations have made trillions of dollars from the Iraq and Afghan wars, some even played integral parts in calling for the
wars. Two of which, Veritas' DynCorp and KBR are in the top ten list of corporations profiting from the war in Iraq.

If the public can be played right, they all stand to make trillions more with an invasion of Iran, the subsequent rebuilding of its shattered
infrastructure and the seizure of their southern oil fields. The Bill of Rights being repealed in the wake of this "war on terror" and justified
with this continued "clash of civilizations" has enabled the various bankers on the above list to loot America and Europe with impunity and
neutralize those who rise up in protest as "domestic terrorists."

Tony's message needs to be widely distributed. As one commentator mentioned on another forum, the public need to welcome this mosque with open arms.
Recognise who's funding it and why and defeat them in this particular battle.

i had a feeling something was fishy about this mosque ...
i approve it but dont approve the dark reasons behind it
did they allow this mosque to be build so it can be destroyed by the same people who brought down the WTC towers ...
it will be accused on Iran and there you have it
another new illegal wars on their way

9/11 was just the start to make bases around the main enemy ..--> Iran

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