10 reasons why Superman is better than Jesus

This article made me want to include a little list of why Superman is better than Jesus. I’ve made a comparative list so I can definitively prove the last son of Krypton is superior to the King of Kings in almost every way.

Superman has saved the planet for destruction numerous times. Jesus has threatened to return and bring on the end of the earth with him, but so far is a fucking ‘no-show’.

Jesus performed a few miracles, but Superman can shoot laser beams out of his eyes, he can fly, is indestructible, and can see through everything except lead. In one movie he turned back time. How awesome is that?

Jesus may have died for your sins, but Superman died to protect us from an intergalactic killing machine called Doomsday.

When Jesus died, he was resurrected 3 days later and then abruptly left, telling his disciples he’d be back within their lifetimes (an obvious lie). Superman died, was in stasis for a while, and emerged with long glorious 90’s hair. Unlike Jesus, however, Superman stuck around and has been busy keeping the world safe from evil.

Although not a God, Superman still risks his life all the time trying to combat super villains. Jesus, on the other hand, is apparently all powerful, and yet refuses to do something as basic as healing amputees.

Superman can move mountains. Jesus claims praying to him will accomplish the same feat, but no noticeable effects from prayer have ever been measured.

Superman is an expert in dozens of languages, and is an accomplished journalist. Jesus never left any writings, or evidence of any of his works.

Superman hooked up with the insanely hot Lois Lane, while the only women who showed any interest in Jesus were prostitutes.

Jesus said “But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me” (Luke 19:27). Superman, on the other hand, has a strict code of conduct that forbids him to kill anyone.

If you fell out of your apartment window and cried for help, Superman would try and save you. Not only will Jesus not even bother to save you; he will send you to hell for all eternity if you don’t believe in him.

Now some people may criticize me for this article, and they might be right: what’s the point in debating which fictional character is better, anyways?

Andrew W

I find it truly sad that Christian folks, I assume them to be, find it appropriate to come on to a website clearly for atheists and begin bringing up the issue of Jesus as a historical person. I find it even funnier that they feel it will bother us when they say posting this article just saved a bunch of people (remember we don’t believe in salvation). The best part of the whole thing though really has to be that these peace loving Christians come on her and try to start fights using arguments which have been both addressed and left high and dry by multiple atheists.

Mercer

Mercer

Ok, I will try again to write because of the stupid conection!!!
Question 1: Anyway, in few words, if you don’t believe in Jesus or God, when he comes back (as some of you claim) we are fucked right? Well, what about the small tribes from Amazon or Africa? or people that believe in a different God (Allah, Budha, etc) they are fucked too? That’s a bit selfish isn’t it? I mean, come on (Jimmy from South Park).You KILL heaps of people for not believing in your ways. That’s just stupid. It doesn’t matter if you were good all your life, helped alot of people but believed in a different religion, you’re fucked coz Jesus makes the rules.WTF? oh ,you have a free will to believe in what you want but if you don’t believe in me, you’re going to Hell.(if there is such a thing)
2. Back in the days people were thinking that thunders are comming from the Gods. In nowadays people know where thunders are comming from right? Well most of us know. People, humans have always used the supernatural power as being the cause or explanation of things that they could not explain. Simple as that. Some people cannot cope with reality facts nor they can explain things of life. So they turn to a higher power that is the cause of ot all. I mean…come on.
The sky is black and is about to rain…the gods are angry. How stupid we, as humans were.Making sacrifices, killing people and kids for something that did not exist. The idea of God (or gods) was there way before so called Jesus came on Earth. Greek gods, Native American gods, Asian gods and so forth.
Question 2: Why Jesus did not come to Earth later or earlier? How come Jesus “came” to Earth right when some fuckups decided to write something to manipulate the people and give them reasons to kill (in the name of God…puleaaaaase!!!). And Jesus said “Ok mate, let’s kill some mofo’s for not believing my crap” One thing here: fear keeps you stupid and stupid people are easier to manipulate. “Is not my will to manipulate you to become rich beyond my dreams, is Gods will. Yeah right!”

Questions 3. Why would someone(God or Jesus or whoever) would kill just to “test their faith”? That is just plain stupid and it makes me angry when people believe in that shit. “Ok folks, today you will die just bacause I am running a faith test, ok? I know you all are innocent people but this is just a test, so please don’t panic.” Very selfish act, like we (humans) are, therefore we created these fantasy.

Therefore, the only thing you should belive in is your self. Believe that you can achieve anything in life, believe that you can do only good things and be proud of your self when you succeed. The rest doesn’t count. Religion is something created by humans, and everything will have an explanation sometimes in the future, in the exact same way the thunder had its explanation. Sometimes we will explain ghosts and UFO’s, and even religion and why it has perpetuated over so many years. believe that!!!

Mercer

Star, my friend. You better get your facts right. First of all, you posted a link to a website that’s full of crap. How can someone be sure that Jesus didn’t die. The wrighter of that article was talking about the resurection like he was there. How can you be sure that he was pierced with a spear by a soldier? Were YOU there to certify that? Oh wait…the book sais that and also you’ve seen it in the Passion of Christ. Please mate, wake up. I am not contesting the fact that Jesus did not exist, altough hard to believe but I would like to see the real objective proof of his existence. I’ve heard Yeti really exists and the monster from Lochness (or whatever)was really there. I can even see the pictures. What stronger proof than that? I can even wright a book about it and make other people believe the same thing. For your info they are all fake and it was proven as being a hoax. Or should I believe all the drawings from the walls from the stone age? That is called imagination and I think the Bible is just a SF book that did good and also bad. I can only think of Scientology (religion created by a SF writer – L. Ron Hubbard) that bases their believes on some writings that could make a good reading but only that. Wake up and get your facts right. Look around you through a different prism and see it as it supposed to be seen.

TW

To everyone who is referring to references to Christ to support an historical Jesus — um, you do know that “Christ” was a title and not a name, right? The Greek equivalent of the Hebrew Mosiach, or Messiah, the Anointed One. There were lots of Christs, or would-be Messiahs, running around back then, and lots of them were put to death by the powers in charge. (There’s also a school of thought that considers John the Baptist to have been the would-be Messiah, and Jesus just one of his disciples — which ended badly after Salomé may or may not have done her little dance.)

However — references to Jeshue bar Josef outside of the four Gospels and any apocrypha that was conveniently dumped at the Council of Nicaea? Zero. The one mention by Josephus has been well-proven to be a later fraudulent insertion perpetrated by the Bishop Eusebius. Anything with the word Christos in it is just part of the zeitgest of the era — about as meaningful as taking a century worth of Nobel Peace Prizes and thinking that they all refer to the same person.

ScientificDogmaisDangerous

While I dont believe in religion, I think I dig Jesus more than super man….I think If Jesus were alive today hed be repulsed by Christianity….hed probably smoke some bud and hang out with Matthew mcconaughey….definitely would have been a dead head type….not some war mongering homophobe that most Christians pin him out to be, he might even be a follower of Buddhism or something like that….jesus was a lover not a fighter lol

creationist

now for being serious. Jesus Christ, why is that name so put down, i mean, would you swear with Allah’s name or some other gods name in front of their followers, no! especially with the Islamic. Jesus Christ is unique because he was real. other religions such as Islam kill off Christians, when Christians have only been wanting to introduce their faith.

Myth: Christians shove their faith down our throats.
really? so, what do angry Buddhists do with clubs if they want you to convert to their faith? or better yet! radical Islam! what do they do to convert you? ill let you answer.

creationist

Also, Jesus is and isn’t a “fuzzy wuzzy guy” he is a judge and a savior who has to judge the people who come before him and do what must be done. if Jesus only judged on a certain amount sin, then he wouldn’t be perfect. he would tolerate sin, evil, something that is a polar opposite from holiness. but he came down to save us before we are judged. that is where we get the quote: Jesus is love. not because Jesus was a hippy, no, he came to bring the creations he made to be with him like we were once.

please no flaming after this post. if you do flame. it just shows how intolerant you are after all your so called, “tolerance of religion.”

let me tell you guys,,,what happen with,,,my friend fosforito a pastor,,,he was going to a little church up in the mountains in puerto rico,,,,when the driver of his car tell him theres no breaks….they suddenly ask themselves,,as he told me,,,why to us father,,,but going with out brakes on the roads of the mountain ,,they felt a peace that calm them down,,,,when going down the road,,,,the car stops by it self in front of a little house,,he said probably the only house there….then a woman comes out of the house and ask then if they want water,,,they said yes,,,while she was giving them water her hands start shaking,,she drops the water to the floor,,and starts crying hard,,,,my friend told me they ask her why she was crying so hard ,,,like they did something to her,,,but,,,she explain that her husband was almost about to kill her,,,but there car stop in front of the house,,,,with noo breaks…..before she almost got kill by her husband by the neck,,,she ask,,,”If there is a real God please send me angels,,,then suddenly they stop in front of the house,,,ALELUYA,,,,she said she was catholic and wanted to accept his God,,,but she stated to him,,that the reason was because she was praying 33 years to a woman that never answer,,,but in only 5 seconds your God did all this,,,,she finally finish accepting God as her savior,,,,take this as prove that theres a big God,,,open your eyes or leave them close is your choice,,,,GOD BLESS YOU!!!!

Phuckjesus

Love this post, I like to think of religious people as pests or peasants, unintelligible halfwits who look to their Sky Daddy and his bastard son for guidance, whats his name again, Jeebus was it? Unfortunately life does not have a happy ending, its survival of the fittest, and when you finally croak after a long hard life you get buried and you get eaten by some fucking insects. Im no happier than you about it believe me! But I choose not to delude myself with false hopes of imaginary friends and bouncing castles in the sky. Grow up you feckless idiots or fuck off please.

Oliver

I was a devout Christian for 25 years before I decided to give the various atheist arguments an actual chance. I went through the Bible from a purely literary point of view and put my feelings and faith aside. Not only does the Bible have many, maaaaany inconsistencies throughout its entirety, but the facts against it definitely outweigh any kind of “faith” that was indoctrinated by my childhood. It’s been revised and revised time and time again over the years to fit with the social trends of the present, and the leaders of Christianity 500 years ago would be completely appalled at the way we live today. Don’t get me wrong; there are some very basic and good messages in the Bible like “Thou shalt not kill” but then it’s up to the reader to place the line between good and bad morals.
Never though I’d say this but thank God I’m not a Christian anymore. Reading the Bible is the fastest way to turn someone into an atheist. 😀

jesuspickmesomefruit

Pitin, little made up stories like that show no support for the existence of a higher power. If anything it shows how someone survived a near accident then tries to attribute their survival outside of themselves.

Try again.

jesuspickmesomefruit

To all the christians trying to make the argument that jesus is a verifiable historical figure… there was likely a guy named jesus that lived. They also likely have his and his families bones in the ossuaries they dug up a few years ago. They historical person of jesus is not really is what is being disputed, but the supernatural fairy tale jesus that comes back from the dead and walks on water that people dont believe in.

MsMsBurning

Who Can Fool Me ? Not You !

I have one thing to say .It would only take a bunch of idiots to believe in any of it(Superman/Jesus! Jesus/The Bible played by Jeff Hunter only made 1 movie ,And Christopher Reeves made many superman movies . and now all of the movie are classic’s now .. We need some new movies to watch and a differant line of B.S to talk about next week …

creationist

im not angry, im just annoyed when i see this. and addressing you Phuckjesus, explain survival of the fittest, as in the human world or the natural world, i can’t remember any historical evidence of walking apes killing a pack of prehistoric monsters and causing all the animals to cower around the world. in fact, gorillas get eaten by other animals in fair fights, and there not top predator like us.

oliver, you could not have been a devout christian for 25 years. Ask Lee Strobel, he studied it and guess where it got him, and he was an Atheist too!

JJ

I’m totally for getting all snarky at religious extremists, but dude, Jesus wasn’t fictional. Sure, he probably wasn’t God’s son born of an immaculate conception, but he still existed as a nice guy who wandered around being all prophetical…

creationist

creationist

Holley

I’m disappointed in both of you. Atheists, stop being such dicks. You’re all just as bad as the christians who don’t give anything a second thought. You’re not right just because you say so. Back shit up with tons and tons of evidence[that’s what sets us apart] and stop acting like 10 year olds who think they’re so damn smart just because they found out that santa claus isn’t real. Just give people the respect you want back, christ almighty.

And christians, why the hell would you come to an atheist website to debate with hardcore militant atheists? Do you think you’re going to change anyone’s minds? PROTIP-You’re not.

Guy calling himself “creationist”-I’ll admit, I judged you by your name, thought to myself-this guy must be an idiot. But then I gave you a chance and read your stuff. I really wanted you to prove me wrong.

“Jesus Christ is unique because he was real. other religions such as Islam kill off Christians, when Christians have only been wanting to introduce their faith.”
Yeah, christians have totally been the epitome of love and tolerance for other religions and viewpoints throughout the years, right? I truly hope you don’t seriously believe that, I’d like to think people can’t just ignore mountains and mountains of history like that.

“Myth: Christians shove their faith down our throats.
really? so, what do angry Buddhists do with clubs if they want you to convert to their faith? or better yet! radical Islam! what do they do to convert you? ill let you answer.”
Really? Because none of my buddhist friends have ever tried to convert me, or tell me I’m wrong and they are right. They are also much more tolerant of my views, even if they’re very different from their own. Even so, if all other religions were just as bad as christianity is about shoving faith down people’s throats, your excuse is still just “Well they do it too so it’s okay!!!” and that’s something a child would say. Grow up.

“please no flaming after this post. if you do flame. it just shows how intolerant you are after all your so called, “tolerance of religion.””
So basically you’re saying “Now no one respond and if you do you’re intolerant.” Again, grow the hell up, kid. We all have the right to say whatever we want to you. If you didn’t want a response, you wouldn’t have come to an atheist website to share your christian viewpoint.

Holley

“explain survival of the fittest, as in the human world or the natural world, i can’t remember any historical evidence of walking apes killing a pack of prehistoric monsters and causing all the animals to cower around the world. in fact, gorillas get eaten by other animals in fair fights, and there not top predator like us.”

A.)You can’t “remember” most likely because you’ve never done any research on the subject.
B.)You meant to say “scientific evidence”, not “historical evidence”. If you’re asking for written accounts by apes historically documenting their own evolution, then by golly, you might just be sillier than I originally thought.
C.)http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Mutation_and_selection_diagram.svg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
There, now you have no excuse to be so uninformed.
D.)”Their” is the correct form that you were trying to use. Please learn to spell, use proper grammar, and correct punctuation before you try to debate grown-ups.

shedly

If kryptonite is evil and talking snakes tempt us to eat forbidden fruit doesn’t Superman’s love for Louis teach you anything? You think life is meaningless without your sweet Jesus? If this comparison says anything it is that the fertile human mind renders amazing realities of love, life and intellectual discourse that exist independent of any afterlife BS. If that isn’t meaning then you ain’t living.

Kim

micaela

RRREEEAAADDD!! ITS IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God is real…. and no matter what you blinded people say he is comeing back… and the reasion why he is going to end this world is so me can all be in a better place… but if you dont believe than thats just too bad… hell wasnt made foe us. but because of people like you now we can go to it… but i know that for a FACT i am going to heaven… and all thiese things you are saying about God and him being fake.. well explain this… how do we love? how do we feel happy? God created all thiese happy emotions… and of course your probably wondering “why is there sadness, suffering, war?” well all those things happen because we are all sinners and this worls is not perfect… if you all would just believe your mind wouldnt be filled with sooo many questions… and even though you are saying all thiese bad things about God he still loves you and he will always be waiting for you… and if you never believe, when you go to hell you will burn and have your WHOLE lifes mistakes played in fron of you every day. you will be missrable… you will commit suicide EVERY day and end up in the same place. and it will be YOUR fault on why youre there… and everyone who believes will be in heaven… and i feel sorry for you people… you may seem alive nut on the inside your dead. your heart is dead your thoughts are rong and youre mords are foul but you know what? God still loves you
god bless… i hope this message will change your life! x)

Josh

Before I say anything else, I would just like to say that I only read the first couple of replies for this post, so if something was said in the later replies that I happen to be repeating or whatever, forgive me. Anyway, really the only thing I want to comment on is the thought of Jesus being mentioned in some historical text other than the Bible (which is really isn’t a “historical” book, but whatever). I would just like to mention that Jesus, when translated back into Arabic, is a shortened form of Joshua (I know my name is Josh, weird right?), but I could be wrong, I don’t speak Arabic. On top of that Christ was most likely not his actual name, since Christ comes from the Greek word meaning messiah, and I doubt that Mary and Joseph named their son Jesus (or Joshua, whatever) Messiah. So when “Moses” said that there was no Jesus mentioned in any history book, it could be because it was written as his full name Joshua. Just something to think about, again I could be wrong, but I just wanted to point that out.

Selenecanfly

Mercer

Micaela, grow the fuck up. I mean really, you think your message will change someones life? Actually it did…my day actually. You must’ve been a really naughty person back in the days and NOW you are trying to use any possible channel to show off your faith, hopping that before coming back, Jesus or whoever will read this post and add an extra perk for you in Heaven. How do I explain feelings and all that? Well, it’s not only human, cats, dogs and some other animals do feel that. I think!!. Wars and all that ? Well there are always going to be some retard that will manipulate some other retards and there you go …you got your self a dicatator.
Please take your stupid comments somewhere else, and start living your life as you want to live it. Look at your self and wonder for one second if you really belive in things that you’ve been shoved down your throat since you were a kid.

Well, as you said, I hope this message will change your life. C’mon ..dare to live your life..believe me ..there is only one chance you have.

Mark

The Crusader

We definitely live in a time where everything is secular, where the new cool thing to do is to go out of one’s way and make a mockery of Christ… With us “feeble Christians” we’re like okay we get it, your arguments are so old and played out keep talking. It’s the new fad, the new flavor of the month, “let’s all go out of our way to make these little Christians inferior, let’s dedicate our entire lives because WE have NO LIVES and ridicule them and take their humanity away from them. Heck let’s make a f**king forum labeled 10 Reasons why Superman is better than Jesus… yes that will get them… oooooh I’m cool… hehehehehehe aren’t we so funny take that Christ hehehehehe… We’re mature”

Here’s the truth… There are really only two religions in this world. There’s the religion of God, as a Traditional Catholic (Pre-VaticanII mindset) I believe my religion is right, I even believe the other religions are wrong, I have to believe this or else I’d be a liar, I’ll even say I’m not perfect always in following my beliefs but I still believe it’s the truth… and then there’s the religion of Man (aka Devil’s religion).

Long story short. The religion of God sets the rules of the universe, sets what’s right and wrong and in the end holds everyone accountable for their actions on earth.

Atheism falls along with many other false religions in the category of the religion of Man. Basically Man’s belief substitutes God’s truth. People who fall into this sunconciously share a common unoriginal mindset. They ALL, yes they ALL think like this:

It’s the religion of convenience where you’re not really held accountable for anything, you won’t be punished for anything. Athiests really enjoy this aspect. All atheists do think alike (yes I’m generalizing because it’s true) and these are your common character traits…

1. Atheists are very arrogant, lack humility and many are elitists.
– It’s easily reflected in the disrespect and hostility towards those who believe in something that’s not material. Look above, Christ w/ a Rifle a very ignorant picture and they know it’s offensive to others and yet they still do it.
– The idea that Someone or something is better and greater than them offends them.
– They always try to come across as “Intellectuals”, they’ll bring up Darwinism, works from Nietzche or Karl Marx etc. and try to present this material with a pompous elite-like attitude as if it’s their own material meanwhile all they’ve done is regurgitate and quote in verbatim.

2. Atheists are very closed minded and ignorant.
– They will commonly use arguments like “First of all the bible is wrong because it contradicts itself.” I’ll ask them back, “well what passages are you talking about?” Most of the time they won’t even know, this shows their manipulative dishonesty.
– They’ll make comments like “Catholic Priests are ALL pedophiles” which is cheap generalization with no merit. Many people don’t know this and even Catholics don’t know this, when a Priest does commit such a crime, they lose their office, meaning their void, they cease being a priest. I’ll admit, Vatican II hasn’t been the best and dealing with this issue though.
– Their idea of something that’s not materially seen cannot exist, is obliterated when you ask them, “If you don’t believe in God because you can’t physically see Him… Then prove to me that you love your daughter, mother, wife etc.?” They’ll hug them but that’s not proving anything… you’re physically putting your arms around them, you’re not physically loving them, just like you don’t see God i don’t see a f**king an energy beam of love going between you and whomever… such a f**king dumb argument.

3. Atheists are bad-willed.
– They will only do something that’s convenient to them or advantageous to them. You’ll present them with truth in good charity and they won’t even make an effort because it’ll takes time and because the material opposes their ideas. If you could put all the effort to read Marx et al., then you can pick up a bible, read a few passages a day, actually try to understand it with humility.
– Athiests will judge the Catholic Church because of inquisitions, falsely claim that Catholic Church are murderers meanwhile… some of the most notorius Athiests were responsible for killing millions of Christians, jews etc…. Athiests will conveniently forget this… 20 f**kin million people killed by Stalin… an Atheist… 2.5 million Pol Pot… an Athiest… 40 million Mao Zhedong… an Athiest
– If you want to generalize, you Atheists by far are the most dangerous breed of people, and the fact that you don’t believe in a higher spiritual authority is scary.
– Who’s to say if given the chance you wouldn’t put a bullet to my ‘inferior’ head if the law wouldn’t hold you accountable for it.

4. Athiests fit the category of “B*tches talk (b*tch as in Atheists), real men Walk the walk (men as in believers)
– You criticize and b*tch like little girls in mentioning things like, “Catholic church is an evil organization they just hoard money…” and I say… uh buddy… “We just raised $4000 for single mothers support, $8000 for our campaign at the church for cancer reseach… ummm what did you do? what organization are you a part of that does this… oh… that’s right nothing… why because you talk like a b*tch, accuser and don’t back up your own words with actions…”

I know I’m going to get a lot of hostility towards and I already know how all of you Athiests will respond…

The Crusader

Categorizing the characters of the following users based on their comments, first impressions, the way they carry their arguments, openess to truth.

KJB = rational and tactful
Josh = rational, means well but might fall into the hype of problems with translations argument
Harrison = Nice guy, though doesn’t believe he seems naive and well versed
Minionette = Cocky, bad willed bitch b*tch you hear it when he goes on saying, “We athiests don’t hate you etc. blah blah
Lifer = Egotistical f**k, who regurgitates arguments, completely bad-willed and will never be open to a different opinion…
The Perfesser = Name says it all, he thinks he’s on some super realm of human intelligence… and then he woke up…
Ryu Murdock = Means well, but most of his arguments fall into theosophic, freemasonic zeitgeist lies of Jesus being the same as Dionysus, Krishna etc…
PhuckJesus = Low -life ignorant Pr*ck, seen many like him, mouths spew constant garbage and they love it. Would probably murder believers and enjoy if he either got paid for it or if in man’s law, the courts would not punish him for it. Definite Stalin wannabe b*tch panzy.
Mercer = Ambitious type of guy, that doesn’t believe not because he hates God etc. because the value system of the religious faith interferes with what he wants out of life, you can see it when he says “believe that you can achieve in life.”
Liz = Head on straight, respectful and rational and open to truth…
Mike O = P*ssy f*ck to swear at a woman, another murderer if given the chance
Creationist = Does not roll with the so called times, maintains integrity, even if faced my many odds
Moses = band-wagon jumper on secular thoughts

Mercer

@ The Crusader…mate in some respect you are right about most of the people here in general and me in particular. I’d say that you don’t know any of us and I think it would be a bit shallow to make a description of some of people that posted here. However, I do not have anything against any other creligion and I find equally stupid as an atheist to hate a believer as I find a Allah believer hating a Jesus believer. Everybody can be and believe in whatever they want….I don’t give fuck. What makes me angry and upset sometimes is how some believers close their eyes and don’t see the truth or fact in front of their eyes. They accept anything, pay anything (see scientology et all ) just to have an acceptance from a group of people with same ideals or acceptance from a superior level beyond our understanding. Furthermore, peope that try hard to shove their religion down your troath or do crazy things to kids because is their “God’s will”. Yeah , yeah …some atheist were dictators and killers as well as other religious people but that doesn’t change the fact that you have good and bad people in this world. I am not trying to defent anyone, what I am trying to say is that people will need to live their lifes and take resposability for their actions and act in a way that will not affect my liberty or your liberty.
Yes, it is true, I am not a believer or anything and yes I don’t hate the idea of God but I am not embracing it. Too many things (the multitude of gods back in the days and in our days, too many uncertainties in the Bible and many other religions, the constant need of humans to have someone else take responsability for their actions (see Stones Age gods from caves), unlimited imagination of human beings and so forth) For me there is no difference between the way people use to act back in the days and nowadays. Same behaviour different way of manifestation. They had their temples back in the days, now we have churches and temples and also TV programs and so forth. Imagine, just for one minute how this world would look without religion. Is like trying to imagine a pig fly, right? Back in the medieval times they have an explanation for almost everything ..GOD. Whoever tried to prove otherwise was burned alive (i.e. Galileo Gallilei). For hundreds of years this religious behaviour has been imprinted in our behaviou and in some cases forced down to their kids too, so there is no wonder that even today we have people that are fanatics and ready to die for their religion. Maybe oneday, I hope that most of us will (it might sound stupid nd cheesy) understand that say ..if there is a God he will not want to force something or kill in his name. If that stupid god want’s that …well he can go and fuck him self because I am not going to kill or torture someone just because I thought is right. Same thing applies to atheists. If you don’t believe that …well good for you..me neither but I am not making a show and promote hate towards other religions, show no respect for other people and act like I don’t give a fuck. Well, I do give fuck as some of these people, religious or not, might be your mother, father, wife, brother or anything else and you interact with them everyday and acting like a selfish prick won’t do any good. So atheist or not, act like a normal human being.
Hell yeah I would like to kick some of those mormons ass, or Jehova witnesses who come to my door and try to show me the “way of God” but I can only say “sorry mate, not interested and please don’t come here anymore” and let them go their way. It makes me angry that some are 15yo or 25yo that are doing it for free instead of doing a miriad of other things that would make their life better. Or who knows ..they might be happy that way.

I sincerely hope you understand my point(s).

Emo Ninja

Jesus Very much so DID exist! There is no denying it!!
And further more he may very well have been our savior!
Unfortunately he got jealous of Chuck Norris’ beard cause it was by far better than his, and had him written out of the bible… BIG MISTAKE!
Chuck messed that boy up bad. He wont be saving anything anymore.
They recently dug up Jesus’ skeleton and he had a distinctive Round-house-kick-delivered-by-Chuck-Norris shaped mark in his upper chest area.

Sorry Jesus, your going to hell; Messing with the Norris is actually classed as suicide… God doesnt like suicide…

KasiSE

You know … pardon my intrusion, but what I’m observing here is a bunch of people who are REALLY ANGRY about whatever has happened to them on account of organized religion. I GET THAT, I’ve been there … but, why throw the baby out with the bathwater?

There is historical proof that Jesus existed, but why is it so difficult to recognize that what he taught has been torchured, twisted, and mis-used by organized religion? IMHO, organized religion is an interloper to control the minds of the masses … and this is a comment from a spiritual person. Jesus was an enlightened being who was simply saying “know yourself” … know that you are part of something really special, so respect yourself and others. How much more simple can it possibly be?

Don’t reject the mystery and wonder of whatever caused us to be here or the connection that we might all have … reject those who try to organize it into something they can monetize and control. Organized religion thinks the masses are too stupid to find a way to live peacefully, in harmony and understanding without their intervention but MORE blood has been spilled because of the conflicts between organized religions.

Maybe think about redefining the term Atheist to be those who reject control by organized religions of the world. When Jesus said “The kingdom of heaven is within you” … he meant it … that spark of life that we feel so profoundly inside when we look an incredible sunset or the face of a child. Now, I know the world can be an ugly place (hell, is it?) but that only serves to make us turn “inward” to learn how to find our own connection to others and to find our own peace.

I have no idea what it will take for everyone to reach that point, but person-by-person who does that is living on earth, but also in heaven and when everyone reaches that point we will ALL be in heaven … and that’s ain’t out on a cloud somewhere. That may be almost impossible to imagine how we’ll get there, but it isn’t impossible to conceive of the idea. If we’d all quit polluting, the earth could make for a pretty nice garden, don’t you think?

FabulousRex

You know, I can comfort myself with the knowledge that the good things that I do are done PURELY because I will it, and because I believe it is the right thing to do.

The biggest thing that bugs me about christians is that it seems like the only reason they do anything good is because they’re afraid of punishment. The -many- times that their god has been used to cover up horrible shit really reinforces my thoughts on this matter.

No amount of tautology will help your case, zombie-followers. “If Jesus exists then you’ll be real sorry when you end up in a lake of fire to burn for eternity while we’re living it up in heaven!”

Spartan response: “If”

KasiSE

Micaela, the tone with which you are “espousing your loving religion” is really mean, judgemental, and hateful. You may not even realize to what degree you sound like a mind-controlled parrot. Since I am NOT an atheist I will tell you that IMHO you are wrong … no one is going to burn in hell, there is more than one life to get it right, and your opinion is no more valid than anyone elses’ here or elsewhere … including mine. But why don’t you try practicing what you preach, huh? Comingn to this forum, ESPECIALLY this forum, and ranting and raving like you did does absolutely no one any good. The only thing that really matter is living our life to the best of our ability and understanding and travelling along whatever path is before us … being genuine and allowing other people to have their path and their life. Shame on you for berrating other people for what they believe and ESPECIALLY for not believing what you believe. I have no problem with an open and honest dialog – presenting a point of view for other people to consider, accept, or reject as they deem is appropriate for them. There is no place for judgement and anger in that type of dialog.