They won't win out. They're good, but not undefeated good at all. The Stanford game now looks winnable, but I still think OK and USC beat them. Both have passing attacks to go after the weak ND secondary.

the very idea of a coaches poll is crazy. it would be like having a government where only the candidates can vote on who should be elected and everyone just has to deal with it. it is the total definition of conflict of interest

You think the Media poll is better? The AP poll for the most part is made up of beat writers for local newspapers. And their job surprisingly is not to watch Football all day, but cover their own team. Which is an all day commitment. For a 3:30 game, they're at the stadium by like 2, 2:30, and after the game they're in press conferences for another hour or so. There's so many games they're missing because they have to do their jobs

That's why there's the blog poll. Sure it's not professional, and some people have wonky reasonings, but at least it's made up of people who spend all day Saturday watching CFB and not working

Although you're mostly correct, these beat writers also watch a lot of other football. For example, the guys at the freep will very well read on the Big Ten, at the very least. I'm guessing those guys end up watching the other games when they can, and spend some healthy time checking box scores of most of the rest of the country, even if its leisurely.

A coach's job impedes his ability to be a pollster. A media member's job helps his.

Damn it I always get the media and coaches polls switched as far as the bcs calculation. My tin foil hat tendencies says this poll is the perfect evidence of espn's making sure their sec dreams come to fruition. Espn and their advertisers have way too much influence in college football.

This is a bit depressing indeed - no Big Ten teams in the top 25, but three Big East teams and one from the WAC and one from the MWC (albeit the usual suspect). Oh, brave new world that has such teams in it, right?

So we lost to the clear number one team in the country (and put up BY FAR the most yards they've given in any game this year and are tied for the second most points they've given up) and lost to a top ten Notre Dame team (and held them to their lowest point output of the season, held them to their lowest yardage output of the season, and put the second most yards they've given up all season) and we're not ranked. Given that Arizona State is ahead of us, with a loss to a terrible Missouri team, the only logical explanation is because we have TWO losses. Way to make to make a convincing case against playing cupcake schedules, coaches...

And you know what? There's not a chance left for anybody to change their hype opinions. Alabama's schedule from now on offers no resistance. Their schedule NEVER offered any resistance. What does it say that Arkansas, who got killed 52-0 against Bama, went on to beat Auburn? How BAD is the SEC?

I mean come on, when Ohio and Nebraska have a high scoring game, people are talking about how shitty the Big 10 is, and when Georgia and Tennessee have an equally high scoring game, people are talking about how great the SEC is. WTF? that makes NO sense. I will not disagree that there are some good teams in the SEC, and that their best teams are the best in the country. That is without doubt. But to stand there and say teams like OLE MISS or AUBURN or KENTUCKY or MISSOURI or TAMU or ARKANSAS or MISS STATE, or VANDY (more than half of the SEC) are better than Michigan or Ohio or Nebraska or Michigan State is simply preposterous.

PREPOSTEROUS!

I mean WHAT? You have RUTGERS and CINCINATTI and LOUISVILLE above MICHIGAN??? WHAT? CLEMSON?? THEY PLAY IN THE BIG EAST. THEY PLAYED MAC SCHOOLS TO START THE SEASON. OF COURSE THEY'RE GONNA BE UNDEFEATED.

But here you have Michigan playing the BEST TEAM in the country by far, Alabama who would crush other SEC teams by a margin greater than what we faced and then DOMINATING the #8 team (but still losing). This is stupid.

Yeah, tough to figure it out right. Michigan loses to #1 Alabama and drops to 19th in poll. A couple weeks later Georgia lays a goose egg against #6 SC and falls only to 12th in poll. Both started from number 5, and a SEC team only falls half the number of spots even though the team they played was ranked 5 spots lower. At this point I guess it is who cares and hope Michigan can win the Big Ten.

Dude take off your homer glasses. Michigan hasn't done jack to deserve being ranked. Against the 2 best teams we played we got embarrassed. At this point in the season, undefeated>"quality losses", no matter who the competition is. How is that hard to understand?

A SI writer on the dp show today said UF is in the national title picture. I about crashed my car. This is the same UF who struggled for a half of football at home with BGSU. B10 is getting no love but not sure I want any of that love.