I see McMurtry (aka "Dr. Grady") is out in Spain at the moment with Howard Condor pushing the "evolution is one big lie" crap on Revelation TV.

The man irritates me intensely, especially with his opening line to every question "the fact of the matter is" followed by a YEC claim. I couldn't bring myself to watch this rubbish especially since no one seemed to be able to challenge this charlatan

The current series of Infinite Monkey cage, recorded in the US, was supposed to be about fossils and evolution this week, but segwayed into creationism and the reasons for it among other things. Jerry Coyne was one of the panel.

'If I can shoot rabbits then I can shoot fascists'Miners against fascism.Hywel Francis

Two by two ....oops the ark has gone. This seems to have passed me by. A new kids film about two animals that fall off the ark. Released ages ago by the looks of it, but only just coming to our cinema now the end of the school holidays after all the big kids films are finished. Just one showing a day whilst inside out gets six! The trailer is so dire, so hers a missed Mark Kermode review of it.

Peter Henderson wrote:Interesting episode of horizon this evening on the evidence for multiverses.

Some nice shots of the Giant's Causeway being used as a backdrop as well.

I missed that one. I've just watched the next about the period post big-bang. Too much dumbing down for me and and they, being the BBC, would lard it with a religious aslpec - even to the extent of religious music.A shame, because it had some good bits.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbpointsofview ... p122804485Weird how I ended up watching Ken Ham slagging off physicists and astronomers - and then immediately afterwards watched tonight's 'Horizon' making the same scientific arguments that Ham blithely rejects and demands that other Christians reject (to 'save' Christianity and 'save' the culture).

One topic set off a train of thought. The north east end of the Cornish beach of Coverack on the Lizard Peninsula has rocks from the lower part of Earth's crust. The south west end has rocks from the upper part of the Earth's mantle. As here:http://www.coverack.org.uk/pages/geology.html

When did the UK's extinct volcanoes erupt, young earth creationists (clue: it might have been before the islands known today as Great Britain and as Ireland were recognisable in their present configurations)?

(I thought I'd posted this yesterday, while it was still running, but it seems to have got stuck somewhere.)Secrets of the Bible - Yesterday channel Tues Oct 20. I don't know whether this channel is available to replay on line.This is a rubbishy American series with an English voice-over (I beliee the technical term is "Voice of God" )I wouldn't normally have watched this, but when it turned out to be about Noah's Flood...

It got of in an uninteresting manner, admitting deep time and the likely local nature of any Biblical flood. They'd got themselves to the Black Sea and found some shells in sediment implying a sudden inundation. I was about to turn it off at thais point when Bingo! Out comes a conspiracy theory: the KGB raided their room looking for the shells, to scupper any attempt to prove that the Bible is true!

Suffice to say that our heroes successfully tricked the atheists from the KGB and got their precious evidence to the USA. Where they were dated at 7,200 years ago. A time when their would be people to form an ancestral memory.

A further expedotion found some exciting artefacts on the floor of the Black Sea but they turned out to be bits of fishing gear a few hundred years old. Oh dear!Undaunted, the search continues: this time looking for people displaced by the Fludde and lo! a Necropolis dated shortly after the Black Sea flood, full of complicated gold jewellery, with no evidence of previous civilisation in the area.Finally, back the good old US of A and the Bible. No doubt that the un-flooded Black Sea was the Garden of Eden. Whence came all the gold. Finally, clutching at straw, they declare that the introduction of farming to Europe was a consequence of the Fludde. That single straw is the only thing approaching a claim that the Fludde was global. I.e., the consequences, not the Fludde, were global.