Dan Brown worked harder than I did on the off day, attending Dave Righetti’s induction into the Bay Area Sports Hall of Fame. Dan asked Righetti about Ryan Vogelsong, and here’s what the Giants pitching coach had to say:

Q: Vogelsong has overcome so many obstacles. Does that give you faith he can overcome this one?

Righetti: Yeah, yeah. It’s his pitching hand, so you never know, right? You don’t take things for granted. It’s a hell of a way to get rest. We didn’t know if the WBC was going to hurt him or help him. But at his age, we also knew there weren’t a lot of opportunities for him to get that shot at doing that. It’s a hell of an honor for a guy who missed out on a lot in his career. We didn’t want him feel to bad about that at all.

He got off to a rough start. He was just starting to get his way back. That was the sad part. And then this happens. My guess is we’ll see him again this year. It’s just par for the course for him.

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Q: It looked like Vogelsong had just turned things around. He talked after the game about the work he’d done with you and Gardner to get back on track.

Righetti: He worked his butt off. With him, it’s never backing off. To him, “backing off” means not throwing as hard that day. But he’s still going to throw.

He’s an extremely hard worker. He feels like he needs to do those things. And for him, he worked on some things. We were fortunate that he got an extra day because of the day off. So that helped him. We went through a good bullpen session and he did what he needed to do.

And when he went out there, he carried it out there the other day. That was tough. I was looking forward to seeing how, when he got tired in a game like every pitcher does, how he was going to hold up. Now we have to wait a few months.

— Righetti said the discussion is ongoing about Tuesday’s starter. On that note, here’s an important quote from Brian Sabean yesterday on KNBR: “I think we’re going to lose Casilla for an extended amount of time. I would anticipate there’s some form of surgery coming.”

That changes a lot of things, obviously. The Giants will need some extra right-handed help in the late innings and Gaudin is an option to fill that role. If he moves into the rotation, the Giants will still need help in the late innings, which could mean that someone like Heath Hembree finally gets a look. All speculation for now. As Sabean said yesterday, this roster move is a bit “of a headscratcher.”
— Down in Fresno, there’s a guy who is doing what he can to be part of the mix. Mike Kickham was good again yesterday, giving up one run over 6 1/3 innings, and now has these numbers over his last five starts: 3-1, 1.72 ERA, 29 strikeouts, 9 walks, .214 average against.

— How volatile is the world of relief pitching? Dan Otero has made 19 appearances for Oakland’s Triple-A team and has given up one earned run. Along with that 0.47 ERA, Otero has 15 strikeouts, 11 saves and has had just 11 opponents reach base in 19 innings. That’s the same Dan Otero who had a 5.84 ERA and 1.70 WHIP for the Giants last season.

Corkran? Strikes me as similar to Bumgarner. Patronymic ancestor probably arrived relatively early from Ireland and instead of the standard “Corcoran” spelling got Ellis Islanded into Corkran.

Reminds me of the Norskie who came over with a boatload outta Bergen in the 1880’s. He’d worked on a merchant ship so had learned a bit of English. Was fourth in line.
“What’s your name?”
-“Ole Olsen.”
-“Your name, please?”
-“Olaf Olson”.
-“Name?”
-“Ole Olsen”.
-“And your name?”
“Sam ting”.

And that’s how the Norwegian immigrant got graced with a Chinese name.

Bapah

Changes to the commenting system? What on earth for? I like having to $pell without $s. It’s just going to be something else we have to get used to and for Runit to work around.

Albert C.

No offense to the PhD from Davis, but I think I’m more impressed with the Linguistics Dept. in Northern Minnesota, headed by the department chair, emeritus professor, Stickman.

• Don Mattingly isn’t in “imminent danger” of being fired as Dodgers manager, ESPN’s Buster Olney and Jayson Stark report. GM Ned Colletti met with Mattingly and the coaching staff after Tuesday’s game and a source believes “the air was cleared and a new direction was given.” Colletti wasn’t behind Mattingly’s criticisms of the team, though sources say the GM did encourage Mattingly’s choice to be more assertive.

• Dodgers president Stan Kasten was also not offended by Mattingly’s comments, telling FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal that the skipper was trying to motivate the club. “I know what Don is trying to do, what his intention is. It’s to light a fire, kick-start the team. He’s trying everything he can think of. We’re all behind him,” Kasten said.

• If this is Mattingly’s last season in Los Angeles, some predict he could find a new job managing the Nationals next year, CBS Sports’ Danny Knobler reports. The Nats previously considered Mattingly for a managerial opening (though he wasn’t interviewed) and the team is believed to “strongly favor hiring a high-profile manager” to replace the retiring Davey Johnson rather than promote an internal option.

by Mark Polishuk

(And my aunt is my uncle)

ClutchUp

• Don Mattingly isn’t in “imminent danger” of being fired as Dodgers manager, ESPN’s Buster Olney and Jayson Stark report. GM Ned Colletti met with Mattingly and the coaching staff after Tuesday’s game and a source believes “the air was cleared and a new direction was given.” Colletti wasn’t behind Mattingly’s criticisms of the team, though sources say the GM did encourage Mattingly’s choice to be more a$sertive.

• Dodgers president Stan Kasten was also not offended by Mattingly’s comments, telling FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal that the skipper was trying to motivate the club. “I know what Don is trying to do, what his intention is. It’s to light a fire, kick-start the team. He’s trying everything he can think of. We’re all behind him,” Kasten said.

• If this is Mattingly’s last season in Los Angeles, some predict he could find a new job managing the Nationals next year, CBS Sports’ Danny Knobler reports. The Nats previously considered Mattingly for a managerial opening (though he wasn’t interviewed) and the team is believed to “strongly favor hiring a high-profile manager” to replace the retiring Davey Johnson rather than promote an internal option.

by Mark Polishuk

(And my aunt is my uncle)

Albert C.

Yay JStreet! They should plug you into a Gibson 335 and a vintage Marshall and have you show them what’s up with the Anthem!

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Paul, you are relentlessly pursuing this thread. In the ‘any port in a storm’ vein: The Professor or The Skipper ?

ClutchUp

Gilligans Island vs. WKRP in Cincy ….

Speaking of choosing between Ginger, Eunice/Lovey (kidding), Mary Ann (Summers) – we all think differently as some remind us Neanderthals of a “Daisy Mae” and some of our own first ….

But for ME, when it came to “WKRP in Cincinnati” – I was mesmerized with “Bailey” (Quarters) aka Jan Smithers (Once Brolin) versus Loni Anderson aka Jennifer Marlowe.

Bailey’s, librarian gla$ses and “hair up” look made the imagination much more spectacular than ‘Barbie’ Anderson.

Walter Guest may opine…

Snorkel Rocks! Long live ‘Killer’.

Winnie did NOT react to the tremor last night yet Moooooose’s dog barked? Winnie must have been lying on the floor vs. Lefty Jr’s bed?

Matthew

Clutch, is your uncle named Lola?

Gray Whale

As someone who’s lurked around here for a long time, thru the heyday of TitoMac (can you write that without getting moderated?), the comment moderation has been a head scratcher for me. I’ve never seen any consistently offensive postings that weren’t solved by a simple IP ban. I’ve definitely never seen anyone offended by the “a” word. (And guys, seriously, it’s not “ss” that gets you moderated. Ya gotta put an “a” before it.)

I just hope the new comment system doesn’t require one to “sign in with your google/yahoo/apple/NWO-data-collecting ID.” If so, then so long, amigos.

Perfesser – altho Gilligan bunked with the Skipper, you could always tell he had a thing for Ginger.

Now what about Derek Lowe? Boom!

Gray Whale

Someone needs to get the Mercedes-driving, sports-ridiculing Chomsky on this discussion board. He gets a mention at least every other day.

Albert C.

Sure,

Derek Lowe could get it done in AT&T. Better than Shane Loux or pulling Gaudin out of his role in the pen. We’ll see about this Kickham Kat. Maybe he’ll kickstart our hearts. If not, Sabean knows a thing or two about kicking some tires.

Albert C.

Gray, does he drive a Mercedes? LOL.

It’s probably a late 70’s diesel.

On that note, one should be free to criticize Israel and their US lobby without repercussions of the anti-semitic label.

ClutchUp

OLD NEWS … but …Affeldt …and the Giants when they negotiated a two-year, $10 million extension… the 2010 amount was rewritten into the new contract, someone made a clerical error and typed $4.5 million instead. The Giants and Affeldt signed it without recognizing the mistake.

Agent Moye telling him, “You know what? As your agent I’ve got to tell you that legally you can keep it. As a man who represents integrity, I’m saying you should give it back.”And that’s what Affeldt said he did, redoing the contract with the $500,000 excised.

Albert — indeed, one should. Just as one should be able to criticize Bochy for not playing young left-handed first basemen and not be called a Giants-hater!

Re Mercedes, its a new one. there’s a great quotation floating around wherein, when asked about whether he viewed that as out of line with stand beliefs, etc, he said something like “oppressed peoples would not expect not want me to be driving a cheap car”. As if the imperialists get 2″-glassed S-class limos for their leaders but the Mayans and Palestinians only get Camry drivers.

I think he’s a great thinker. But definitely an institutionalized academic.

Gray Whale

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May 24th, 2013 at 1:18 pm
Albert — indeed, one should. Just as one should be able to criticize Bochy for not playing young left-handed first basemen and not be called a Giants-hater!

Re Mercedes, its a new one. there’s a great quotation floating around wherein, when asked about whether he viewed that as out of line with stand beliefs, etc, he said something like “oppressed peoples would not expect not want me to be driving a cheap car”. As if the imperialists get 2″-glassed S-clas$ limos for their leaders but the Mayans and Palestinians only get Camry drivers.

I think he’s a great thinker. But definitely an institutionalized academic.

Gray Whale

Gray Whale says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
May 24th, 2013 at 1:18 pm
Albert — indeed, one should. Just as one should be able to criticize Bochy for not playing young left-handed first basemen and not be called a Giants-hater!

Re Mercedes, its a new one. there’s a great quotation floating around wherein, when asked about whether he viewed that as out of line with stated beliefs, etc, he said something like “oppressed peoples would not expect nor want me to be driving a cheap car”. As if the imperialists get 2″-glas$ed S-clas$ limos for their leaders but the Mayans and Palestinians only get Camry drivers.

I think he’s a great thinker. But definitely an institutionalized academic.

Skweezplay

Well Mattingly may not get the hatchet “imminently”, but if that team doesn’t start playing together and winning baseball games “imminently”, somebody’s head’s gonna roll.

channelclemente

Whale,

as I recall Chomsky’s comments on sports, it had more to do with organized professional sport turning us in to mindless tribal narcissist, which is hardly an arguable fact when viewed objectively.

If we could recycle Carlton and R. Johnson, surely we could get some innings out of D. Lowe. GM Gilligan

Albert C.

Chomsky’s argument pertains to us.

We go to great efforts to analyze drafting strategy, free agent markets, swing rates, in game strategy. What if we used this time and effort to make better sense of the world around us and to recognize where power is abused and truth obfuscated?

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What time is the game? Lincecum Day! Orange Friday !! Is it on NBC or CSN ?

Just caught up. You guys are killing me with the Gilligan’s Island and “surfeit” stuff. But I would never trade Stickman to the Marlins! We need him here!

“Albert”–you set me straight on the Hembree/Super Two stuff before and I forgot. Get him up here, I say. He looks ready to me and he’s exactly the kind of guy to replace Casilla–late-inning power arm guy. Ease him in to the 6th-7th innings for a few weeks and then have him start taking the 8th. He just doesn’t strike me as the skittish type. (This is both from watching him in spring and on Milb.TV and from following him on Twitter since he was in San Jose. He’s a relaxed, funny guy.)

Timmeh will battle and get big outs – we fans will chime in “Way to go Timmy” and SonieH will come on and say, “see I told ya ya’ll hate the little guy”

Miss Cleo says – No!

bernard

CU – I’m just saying I saw the dude on a scooter. A non-electric scooter, btw. Like an oversized Razor Scooter with his name on it, and with the number 9. And yes, thank you for the picture of his wife. It was definitely her riding next to him. =)

Albert C.

CC,

It wasn’t so bad, swimming in the sea, next to Marie. It was all downhill after the kerfuffle with the Arabs. That’s life.

channelclemente

Albert,

swim on, de Gaulle is on the way.

oil can boyd

Lefty- I agree, bring up Hembree and put Gaudin in rotation to replace Vogey. Machi can go to long relief and Rosario to Fresno.

CC: Remember Machi pitched three innings in relief in San Diego a few weeks ago (extra-inning game where Zito unraveled and coughed up a five-run lead after Torres’s error). Machi did really well, too.

channelclemente

Lefty,

that’s true, I wonder if at his age, he could sustain that role. To tell you the truth, Gaudin as a starter concerns me some. After you see him twice, guys seem to solve him. But, I guess well find out next week what the puzzle masters think will work best.

Albert C.

“Gaudin as a starter concerns me some. After you see him twice, guys seem to solve him.”

Your concerns are legitimate Monsieur CC. This is the very reason he is a reliever and not a starter.

But for ME, when it came to “WKRP in Cincinnati” – I was mesmerized with “Bailey” (Quarters) aka Jan Smithers (Once Brolin) versus Loni Anderson aka Jennifer Marlowe.

Bailey’s, librarian gla$ses and “hair up” look made the imagination much more spectacular than ‘Barbie’ Anderson.

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Yeah, I was always for Bailey. Loni was out of my cla$$.

Wally Pipp

The wives looked around but could not find either Henry or Albert tucked away up here. Sigh, may have gone south.

However there was a buzz when the Doors Ray Manzarek arrived on Tuesday after pa$$ing on Monday.

Today Giants minor league coach Victor Torres finally arrived after awkwardly not having all his papers in order. Victor was hitting coach and instructor in the club’s player development department the past six years pas$ed in Florida.

The worker bee wives are scurrying around preparing for rapper Lil Phat’s arrival. Who would have thunk it?

ClutchUp

Alex said: “I’m off tonight, Steve Corkran will be here to handle everything….”

From what I remember, Dan Otero did very well for us in AAA, I was sad to see him leave the org.

channelclemente

Pillow fight, no joust.

stickman

Another development which appears to have slipped under the radar on the blog is the possibly immanent appearance of Tony Abreu who is in the last stages of rehab, currently playing for Fresno.

Yahoo Sports has a feature on the SF disabled list and speculated that multi-versatile veteran Abreu would likely replace Noonan, who they feel needs the kinda regular playing time he’d get with the Grizzlies.

Bapah

Do I get a large staff or a 32oz 42?

channelclemente

ob,

he did fine here through 2-3 starts (?), it’s just when film and scouting looked closely, they found out how to hit Otero. The AL will do the same, unless he’s added a wrinkle or two.

Bapah

If y’all were a young ballplayer (not a grizzled OTH vet) which manager would you want to play for?

ClutchUp

Bapah: Name your price … like when Jack Palance help up one finger in City Slickers and said “it’s about it” ….

You get “it” so your stash of adult beverages is unlimited as well as man/female power … heh heh heh …

Tulo should get booed tonight!

totalfan62

ClutchUp says: May 24th, 2013 at 5:06 pm

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LOL, w/big smiles mixed in. Too funny.

stickman

Anyone remember Tommy the Cork? Is he in the house yet?

LittleMike

bapah

Curly from City Slickers, Do you know what the secret of life is? One thing. Just one thing.

ClutchUp

551 pm No knew Steve Corkran – SF Giants News = Fail Steve ….

A scribe for the Raiders … should have figured :>/

Vegas Giants Fan

Jon Laaser is the lead announcer for the Richmond Flying Squirrels. This is his fourth year calling Richmond games. Joining him in the booth this year is John Burnham.

There is no radio broadcasts for the Augusta Greenjackets. Perhaps with new ownership this will change. There is also discussion that Augusta’s new owners will build a new ballpark for the team. Talks are early.

Go Giants.

stickman

Rumors on the net that some highly-placed individuals are pulling their families out of the Bay Area due to fears of an immanent quake, echoing the 8.2 that hit the Sea of Okhotsk just east of the Siberian mainland. A second half to the rumor is that some international consulate staff in SF is also evacuating.

None of this is to my knowing or even intuition, just passing it along. George Ure is quoted as being concerned vis a time-frame at around 2 PM tomorrow afternoon, PDT. It might not hurt to do some prepping with essentials beforehand ~ things like food, water, batteries and various individual needs.