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I want to buy the PX-130 for it's apparently more advanced technology (linear morphing system, 4 dynamic levels etc), but on the other hand I hear the keys are a lot heavier than on the Yamaha, which is a negative for me. Is it very noticeable that the technology in the Yamaha is older, like when it shifts between the preset levels as you press the keys with different velocity?

I want to buy the PX-130 for it's apparently more advanced technology (linear morphing system, 4 dynamic levels etc), but on the other hand I hear the keys are a lot heavier than on the Yamaha, which is a negative for me. Is it very noticeable that the technology in the Yamaha is older, like when it shifts between the preset levels as you press the keys with different velocity?

I happen to think that the P95 feels and sounds more natural, more like a real piano, despite weaker specs on paper. But there are people here who prefer the PX-130. The only way you'll know what you prefer is to play them for yourself. (People also like the Korg SP-170 in this price range.)

On a side note, I came across a peculiar review of the PX-330 where the reviewer claims that it has better action and sampling than the PX-130. I was pretty sure they were identical except for some extra features and outs on the PX-330?

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Then I decided to try the PX-330, which was only about $100 more than the PX-130. I WAS BLOWN AWAY. I never imagined that for under $600 you could get something that really feels and sounds like a piano. The action is firm and responsive - no "toy" feeling at all, and noticeably better than the models one step down. The sound is excellent, the dynamic range is excellent, and the power and resonance in the bass range are MUCH greater than the slightly cheaper ones.

It's my understanding that the two have the same identical action by design. I've got the PX 130. I find that it's not what you read or hear about. It's easier than my acoustic Yamaha upright piano. Selecting (1) on the touch respons control seems to give it an easier touch as well, thoght it's really not actually lightening the touch. I have not tried any DP other than this one so I can't say one is better than the other. If you're that concerned, you will have to try both to decide but I don't really think there's much to be concerned about. Sound, reliability and half-way decent quality are more important to me. I will say that I love the sound of my PX 130 (through headphones) and that's without trying any other model accept for what I've heard on UTube demos.

I came across a peculiar review of the PX-330 where the reviewer claims that it has better action and sampling than the PX-130. I was pretty sure they were identical except for some extra features and outs on the PX-330?

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Then I decided to try the PX-330, which was only about $100 more than the PX-130. I WAS BLOWN AWAY. I never imagined that for under $600 you could get something that really feels and sounds like a piano. The action is firm and responsive - no "toy" feeling at all, and noticeably better than the models one step down. The sound is excellent, the dynamic range is excellent, and the power and resonance in the bass range are MUCH greater than the slightly cheaper ones.

I have played the PX-330 a decent amount... but played the PX-130 only briefly at a store, next to a PX-330. I did not notice any different feel. (I used to think that the PX-3 felt only a little better, but I have come to think it feels noticeably better, though still a little heavy/sluggish feeling for my taste.)

I was under the impression that the PX-330 and PX-130 piano sample were identical, but I heard the 130 so briefly that I wouldn't want to promise it. Maybe someone can send Dewster a PX-130 sample to confirm. I am not thrilled with the PX-330 piano sound... I would be curious to know if the PX-130 sound is actually worse...

I played the PX-3 and was surprised how far along Casio has come with their actions and sound, but the action felt sluggish to me as well. I think for the money, Casio has some very compelling little digital pianos.

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I have played the PX-330 a decent amount... but played the PX-130 only briefly at a store, next to a PX-330. I did not notice any different feel. (I used to think that the PX-3 felt only a little better, but I have come to think it feels noticeably better, though still a little heavy/sluggish feeling for my taste.)

The action on the current series of Casio PX-30 series digitals is lighter than the older Casio Privia that I have. I really notice the difference whenever I play a new Privia. I remember my fingers used to tire after playing for an hour or so. Now they don't bother me anymore. I've gotton used to the action.

Personally I don't find trust in a company that specializes in calculators, just like I don't trust Hewlett Packard in digital camera market. I mean, would you trust Toyota if they would make digital pianos? Would there be a reason why you would purchase Toyota DP over Yamaha one?

Yamaha on the other hand is something you see a lot of pros use in music business. Korg is another pro manufacturer in music business although I haven't seen them as much in piano business. I still own SP-170 and am very satisfied with my DP. I chose Korg over Yamaha because

1. Key action, I liked in better on Korg SP-170

2. SP-170 has two headphones output

Soundwise, I bet Yamaha wins but I am not the hifi-type person who counts seconds as to how long the note sustains and am not into analyzing sound as to how realistic it is. For me, SP-170 sounds beautiful and that is what made the final decision.

Personally I don't find trust in a company that specializes in calculators, just like I don't trust Hewlett Packard in digital camera market. I mean, would you trust Toyota if they would make digital pianos? Would there be a reason why you would purchase Toyota DP over Yamaha one?

Arthur,Does this mean you would not consider buying a motorcycle or dirtbike from Yamaha because they are mostly known for their keyboards? Most large companies make a range of products now a days. In Casio's case they have made musical instruments for over 30 years in addition to watches, calculators, POS systems, and digital cameras and other stuff.

Arthur,Does this mean you would not consider buying a motorcycle or dirtbike from Yamaha because they are mostly known for their keyboards? Most large companies make a range of products now a days. In Casio's case they have made musical instruments for over 30 years in addition to watches, calculators, POS systems, and digital cameras and other stuff.

You have that backwords. Yamaha started out making motorcycles, I believe.

The action on the current series of Casio PX-30 series digitals is lighter than the older Casio Privia that I have

I guess they have used a variety of actions over the years. Which model is your older Privia?

I thought the PX-500L keyboard was a little better than the PX-310 keyboard, but that both were lighter (less sluggish feeling) than the PX-330 or PX-3.

You realize, I hope, that a harder action like you have with an acoustic strengthens your fingers and that’s good for you in the long run. I’ve had my PX 130 now for about 3 weeks and my hands never ached so much after the first night of getting use to it. My older DP that I played for years has a very light organ-like touch to it. I also have an old Yamaha upright acoustic piano but I never play it because it’s always out of tune and sounds awful. After 3 weeks of beating the keys to death on my PX 130, I can say I’m playing stronger, better and with greater accuracy than ever before and it feels good to. I don’t know and can’t say this one DP is harder than another but regardless of any slight difference, having it is a benefit to anyone who learned by a lighter touch.

In november 1974 was the Casiotron born, the first electronic wristwatch from Casio.

The first musical instrument was in januari 1980.

Thanks Rich,I took a look. Casio has an impressive history of innovations. One shouldn’t discount what Casio may come out with in the future in regard to DP’s. I recently bought the PX 130 because of the overwhelming reviews and because I wasn’t aware of other DP’s, made by more namely companies in the music business. Now that I’ve learned more about what’s out there and what I could have had instead, I’m still satisfied with my Casio. Partly due to this forum, it’s obvious to me now that Casio has not earned a reputation equal to the others such as Yamaha.

I listened to the PX 130 along with others on Utube and chose it by that alone, I was sold. Also, don’t judge any of them by their internal speakers. Listen to them through headphones for comparison only. The internal speakers are too small to know the full sound capabilities of any model. Utube has many samples on various keyboards at various price ranges. Most Utube recordings were done through monitor speakers or they were able to pipe in the actual sound as you would hear them thought headphones. Use headphones with your computer though if shopping this way. This is how I shopped. The PX 130 was in my affordable price range and I chose it based on the sound given by these Utube samples. I was not disappointed. Now that it’s with me, I play it using a good pair of headphones only. Now, I’m looking on getting a pair of quality monitor speakers.

I think it looks terrific and I'm really looking forward to trying it. I'm thinking about getting the 61 key version for a lighter weight organ and synth, and if it's piano sound is all it's cracked up to be, driving the piano sound with a weighted board that isn't as heavy to carry around. The other piece that really interests me is the Nord Stage 2.