Comment by Googleftw

Comment by nisx

This is part of updated model of the Wotlk starting set - original model Greaves of Ancient Evil

Comment by frmorrison

Melancholy are good, but for some people others are better. 14 str and 10 crit and 21 stam instead of 32 ArP difference. Pretty close call.

Comment by TheTrueCrow

Note that, despite the name, there are no Grinning Skulls on these boots.

Comment by wafool

Sucks that both Melancholy and These from ToC, once socketed, seem better than these new boots. All bliz has to do to fix that is put a socket on these things and I'd be all over them. Until then, I think I'll survive with only 33.2% crit instead of 33.6% crit.

Comment by suffer

Well, generally speaking the only stats that really matter are the 14 str and the 10 crit.

24 stat points totalor30 from melancholy

As of 3.3 for a warrior melancholy are better (assuming your under ArP softcap with GT/Runestone or under ArP hardcap without)

don't know pallies/dk's well enough to comment further.

Comment by suffer

this is a test

Comment by DogterDoom

stop complaining, what part of 5 MAN HEROIC makes you think they will beat something from a raid?

Comment by Fadwen

..... the Plated Greaves are from Heroic, 5 man ToC.. not the raid.

Comment by Llyrian

From what I understand from playing my Unholy Death Knight, these represent a 4, (yeah 4), DPS upgrade over the Melancholy Sabatons.

While my understanding might be wrong, I believe strength and ArP are a wash for DK's. So the 14 Strength is 28 AP, 4 less than the Armor Penentration rating, but scales with Kings, so the additional armor, and crit amount to about a 4 DPS increase over the Melancholy Sabatons.

Comment by crusader666

Just got these ninjaed from me by a stupid prot pala. Screw X-realm dungeons! They just take the item and leave and you will never meet them again :SAnd I'm still wearing the Death-Inured sabatons from Ebon Blade rep...

Comment by GruggClan

Anyone else having a difficult time getting these to drop? I've run Heroic HoR 9 times now and I have yet to see these drop. I know, I know, RNG is a cruel heartless %^&*! sometimes, but I don't even think I've seen these on a player on my realm yet.

I guess the reason that I'm excited about this piece is it will allow me to offload some excess hit rating for ArPen, which is a more welcome stat for Unholy DK DPS now with the redesign of scourge strike in 3.3.

I do agree with a previous poster, though, that this item seems as though it should have a gem socket for this particular item level and its current stats.

Comment by Gandazar

Blizz are handing us free loot.

Wait... you can get these with a trial account?

Comment by Drolletje

Same here, been doing this since 3.3 came up and never seen it drop, my 2 friends neither ;/ holy crap im still running with Death-Inured Sabatons :O

I feel your pain. I've been running around in Death-inured Sabatons for 9 months now D:

Comment by Nive

I'd Like an updated drop rate percentage, or confirmation that its still there.

I've ran HoR nearly every day since 3.3 (not the first days of patch), sometimes multiple times by means of random pugs, and have never seen this drop.

please say this still exists,

Comment by Elexis

These must have a LOW drop rate I've run this 22 times and haven't seen them drop. There a small upgrade from the Plated Greaves of Providence I would recommend getting these you'll have alot less headaches from running TOC rather than heroic reflection

Comment by knockdownodin

Just finished my 16th run and haven't seen them yet.

Comment by profan

I've now done 39 runs and nothing. These must have a horrible drop chance. Something is very wrong here.

Update: The boots finally dropped on run # 50.

Comment by Ironskin

- agree; same for the plate dps ring - havent seen either in 11 runs. Well - still around 11% for that "chance" - guess i'm just not lucky. 27 new HC runs and havent seen a battered hilt- just confirms my "luck"

Comment by DKmeleeDPS

Had to make an account so I could agree with you. 19 times done HoR HC, never seen these boots.

Comment by Liege

ran atleast every day since this place was released on 2 chars, sometimes twice with random finder these have dropped once for my DK and never since in any group, I need these for my ret spec!

Comment by Velectri

I've run this instance for these boots every day since it was released and never saw them drop until tonight..........how fitting is it that the Paladin putting out 1.7k dps won them............

Comment by progshine

Trying these boots since the day one and guess what? No loot at all! But it's ok :D

@ismaris

Just an ask (no offense), my main is tank, but when I run for these boots I'll go as dps, my question is, you prefer wait more on LfG or a tank that needs it, cause I've lost the trinket http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50198 so many times that I don't know anymore what I prefer xD

Comment by Ethias

What would be better the relentless gladiators boots(meele dps) or these boots for a icc25 Ret pally?

Comment by bnylicious

dropped for me ! :). but outrolled by the dk tank who already has em. NINJAing at its best

Comment by Deltasq

I have been running H HoR for the past month straight, and these have never dropped. And from what I am told, they have a pretty average drop rate, I call shenanigans on. Though they are the best pre-raid.

Comment by pbplyr38

Farmed this place for the past week and hadn't even seen them drop once since 3.3.0 hit. Today, they finally dropped and the tank needed on them and won. Needless to say, everyone in my group raged at him..haha

Comment by Freezerburnt

I am so angry at Blizzard for doing this. I have been farming those boots for 4 months straight, no drops, and what happens? They NERF them. All that work gone to waste. Now, the worthless Relentless Gladiator's boots that I earned just to upgrade from my previous boots, which I would then upgrade to Grinning Skull boots, are better. Unbelievable. I still can't believe it. They nerfed them. And they didn't raise the drop rate one bit.