Meh, people need to stop bagging Swann. We all knew before he wouldn't do great vs. India. Most people expected him to be neutralized fairly effectively. Murali didn't do much and neither did Warne. Unless you have people coming into the side initially without having played a lot of Ranji cricket (e.g Yuvraj), generally they're going to be decent vs. spin. Unless you're Michael Clarke, you aren't generally going to run through India as a spinner.

Funny you mention Yuvraj, he's been the only left-hander to handle Swann at all this series.

He doesn't really have any way of getting right-handers out unless they do something stupid. He can make them look uncomfortable and maybe get the occasional bat-pad but he's not going to get an lbw from over the stumps and he's not threatening the outside edge. It's a bit disappointing to see someone with so many weapons bowl without a plan.

That's that, end of, looked like England were going through the motions at times this afternoon and the foot holes have caused problems for the seamers. Hopefully they were saving some energy because it looks like they will bowl again.

Funny you mention Yuvraj, he's been the only left-hander to handle Swann at all this series.

He doesn't really have any way of getting right-handers out unless they do something stupid. He can make them look uncomfortable and maybe get the occasional bat-pad but he's not going to get an lbw from over the stumps and he's not threatening the outside edge. It's a bit disappointing to see someone with so many weapons bowl without a plan.

Yeah for some reason he just doesn't bowl the right line to them at all. And anyone who can pick up the length quickly is liable to knock his length around, rendering him pretty ineffective.

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Yeah for some reason he just doesn't bowl the right line to them at all. And anyone who can pick up the length quickly is liable to knock his length around, rendering him pretty ineffective.

Even if you can't pick the length for toffee you can just plonk the front foot down outside off stump and poke outside the line. I'd fancy my chances of staying against Swann bowling that line. He's not threatening the stumps and he's not threatening the outside edge.

Yeah for some reason he just doesn't bowl the right line to them at all. And anyone who can pick up the length quickly is liable to knock his length around, rendering him pretty ineffective.

He should maybe bowl around the wicket and pitch off or thereabouts. That would give him plenty of ways of dismissing a right-hand batsman and he's obviously used to bowling around the wicket because he does it to left handers. If it doesn't spin then it does make it a little awkward if you're playing with the spin, because then you're going against the angle. You've got the outside edge as a possibility. If it's spinning you've got a big lbw threat and you still have the bat-pad threat. I don't know the history and whether other off-spinning bowlers have used that angle much in the past.

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