Atheists refuse to oppose racism and nationalism but voice up their position on things like gay rights and abortion rights

100% of all modern day atheist countries are extremely racist/nationalist beyond imagination (Denmark, Sweden, Latvia, Estonia, New Zealand, and every other atheist country)

Atheists and the atheist-controlled media refuse to attack free-will believers like how they attack Creationists even though the scientific evidence telling us that free-will is non-existent is like a million times more concrete than the evidence supporting evolution(young Earth Creationists are more rational than free-will believers)

Atheists refuse to acknowledge the undeniable historical consensus that religion directly caused the scientific revolution and insist on telling lies thoroughly debunked by historians (there aren’t any modern day historians that believe in the “Dark Ages” lie portrayed in the atheist-controlled media)

Atheists refuse to acknowledge the undeniable historical fact that Faraday’s religion directly caused Maxwell’s Equations to come into existence, and instead lie and portray the opposite

Atheists are trying to redefine the definition of science so that all that matters is authority and incredulity instead of empirical observations and valid reasoning, turning science into pseudoscience

Atheists are trying to throw away a very important principle in science – criticism and scrutiny, and turn science into pseudoscience

Atheists don’t allow people to question, scrutinize, and criticize atheistic arguments, they just breakdown and cry and interpret any criticism as “trolling”

If atheists and the atheist community gave up on these things I would consider them as human or partially human.

If you go on YouTube you’ll see that the majority or at least half of the racist comments are from atheists even though there’s a low atheist population in the US. You have to realize that every atheist is in on this White Nationalism/racism thing together as one, that’s why they won’t come out to oppose racism and other racist atheists, they would only come out to try to stop people from criticizing racism thereby ensuring that the racism and nationalism thrives.

The dream of a Whites-only type of society is finally coming back. Back in 1988 no one in Sweden supported the Nazi party, it’s only 2010 that they gained support. Instead of calling it a “White Supremacy Organization” you just call it “Atheist Group” instead.

It’s just better to start viewing atheists as subhuman beings.

Although I can’t be 100% certain of everything, I can be 100% certain that – atheists block human progress, hold back science, and pose the greatest threat to mankind.

What atheists want to do is live backwards in the stone age with trees and grass, they hate science and technology.

Estonia (the most atheistic country) has 0 Nobel prizes.
Switzerland and Austria (the 1st and 2nd most religious Western countries) have the 1st and 2nd most Nobel prizes in science per capita.

After atheists took over science the late 1960s and early 1970s we immediately stopped finding cures, the life expectancy started growing slower, physics became stuck with empirically untestable hypotheses, science is turning into pseudoscience, and technology started growing slower.

Atheists hate technology and science and just believe in living in grass.

The only real solution to this issue is – the complete systematic extermination of atheism and atheistic beliefs.

Come come view atheists as subhuman, the enemy, the lowest!

I’m the King of argumentation logic, there’s nothing these fools (atheists) can do in response except for throw personal attacks when presented with undeniable historical and scientific facts.

In the beginning, middle, and end I win. They say humans like this only come around a few thousand years or so. Atheists are subhuman like animals they can be found anywhere.

Atheists should just give up, go home, and ignore the whole situation, they know that if they present their atheistic argument in front me I’ll break it up apart and make them look foolish (atheistic). They can go back to their agreeing-contest anti-science/atheist forums that don’t allow criticism, scrutiny, or free speech like how I do. They are always so afraid, weak, and useless.

There will never be any atheist-controlled forum or blog that allows free speech and free criticism and scrutiny like how I do, this is because the fools (atheists) know that if a statement really is true it will stand up to any amount of criticism, so they have to strongly discourage any type of criticism of atheistic arguments and beliefs knowing their ways to be false.

I know that my ways are true and will stand up to any amount of criticism, so I allow and encourage criticism, unlike the fools (atheists).

When I see an atheist crying in my mind I think “What a great joy, what a great joy it is that this low-life racist is now crying”.

When atheists throw personal attacks at me, it’s like nothing to me. It’s just like a dog, a cat, or some other domestic animal throwing personal attacks at me, I don’t feel anything. Since I view atheists as subhuman beings like domestic animals why should I become bothered?

The only way a non-white can get an atheist to support them is if they claim to be gay, then they would come out to support them then. The reason why the atheist community voices their position on gay rights but not racism is because they actually disagree with people who oppose gay rights, but they don’t disagree with people who support racism.

However, your argument completely breaks down when you look at a list of the most atheistic countries in the world – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism
and realize that Switzerland and Austria both fall well below the European median for “believe in a God”, so they are hardly the most religious countries in Europe.

For somebody that ‘surpasses Ockham’s and Aristotle’s ability for argumentation logic [sic]’, these are pretty blatant oversights – I am sure you would agree…..

Oh..and just for shits and giggles- check out the per capita nobel prices for the most religious countries in the world: Ghana, Nigeria, Armenia, Fiji, Macedonia, Romania, Iraq, Kenya, Peru and Brazil…. no doin’ so well, aren’t we?

You have to consider that those countries that you listed were all at one point colonies and were therefore affected in their development by the decolonization and neo-colonialism. Their developments were then offset by an outside force resulting in their poor per capita Nobel prizes. Also, Armenia was affected by the genocide from the Yugoslavia genocide and therefore have been greatly affected in their developmental process.

I am going to criticize you. Don’t call it breaking down and crying like you always do:

Idaho is a very religious state in the USA and it is one of the most racist.

Atheists speak up about homosexuality more than anyone else on Earth.

Racism is a shitty reason to view atheists as lower beings.

If you’re going to say atheists are bigots, stop bigoting yourself.

People rights to religion. And you think you’re going to make a change in this world? Dude. This corner of the internet is for all people to laugh. Even of your religion.

“They think that everybody owes them something to society, that everybody has to like and respect them, and that no one should be allowed to criticize them or their beliefs.”

What in the fuck… We accept criticism, just not from this shitty “blog”. We don’t read your chapter books. We focus on things like “atheists just can’t do anything”, “atheists ruin everything they touch”, and the most fucking intolerant thing you could ever find on the face of this planet “I wish all atheists would die of a natural disaster” and this makes me want to drag me in with you. We criticize you for the horrible things you utter that aren’t criticism.

Just accept it. The world won’t accept you, so just go watch some Newground animations to fuck up your head for the rest of your life. The people doesn’t need your shit.

All the atheists can do in response is breakdown and cry, throw personal attacks, change the subject, etc…

People might think of what I said as a joke or ridiculous, but the threat is really real as all of the overwhelming evidence shows us that the atheist population directly causes White Nationalism and Nazism to thrive:
– 100% of all modern day atheist countries are extremely racist/nationalist (Denmark, Sweden, New Zealand, etc…)
– The 1st and 2nd most atheistic US state Maine has the best policies in the US for a Whites-only type of society
– There aren’t any mainstream Christian denominations that accept White Nationalism or Nazism
– The atheist community refuses to oppose racism like how they speak up on things like gay rights and abortion rights

You have to realize that it’s all true that the atheist/agnostic/non-religious population directly causes White Nationalism/Nazism to thrive.

The date I predict when the effects will be seen in the US is around 2030s-2040s.

If you haven’t spoken to any White Nationalists or Nazis the media stereotype of a bunch of redneck country Christians might be in your mind, but if you talk to like just 5 or so White Nationalists or Nazis that stereotype gets eliminated from your mind very quickly.

Basically every White Nationalist hates Christianity viewing it as a disgusting Semitic non-European anti-white religion from the Joo’s texts!

Things like Norse, Celtic, and Germanic religions are actual European religions, not Christianity.

When you see racist comments on YouTube and click on the user you’ll see that most of the time the user is a anti-religious or atheistic person who is subscribed to “Amazing Atheist” or has anti-religious YouTube videos favorited.

You’ll find just what that NORMAL atheist blog site said to be true.

Wow, you are very soft if Stromfront is too hard stuff for you. It is the most neutral place. You find VERY few republicans there, Biblebelt Neocons have NEVER been popular in the circles. They are even seen as bigger enemies than democrats! Stick around, once the shock and denial passes, you will follow the white rabbit too. – http://www.atheistrev.com/2007/11/atheism-and-white-power.html

You have to realize almost every single White atheist is in on this together as one.

It’s the free market, free speech, free society!

Together we can make the dream of a Whites-only type of society come true, just support socialism, support a Whites-only type of society!

I’m posting your addys everywhere I can. And, I’m getting some wonderful replies, often from children who now see atheism as a comedy routine, or perhaps the monkey house at the zoo. Agnostics all seem to agree with you, at least about atheism. Peace! And keep rattling their cage.

You realise that Hitler essentially viewed the Jews as Sub Human…
You’re saying we, with faith, should class those without as Sub Human…
The only Nazi I see here is you…
And all who dare follow your dark path…

“Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. We know that the judgment of God rightly falls on those who practice such things. Do you suppose, O man—you who judge those who practice such things and yet do them yourself—that you will escape the judgment of God? Or do you presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing that God’s kindness is meant to lead you to repentance? But because of your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed.”

No I’m serious….the atheist community will most likely never ever come out to oppose other racist or Nazi atheists EVER.

So this means the ENTIRE atheist community is on it together as one.

If atheists really disagreed with racism they would oppose racism, not just remain silent or change the subject or whatever.

It must feel great to be both a Nazi or racist and an atheist.

I predict that around the 2030s-2040s the US will start to feel the effects of the racist/atheist movement.

Right now Maine is the best US state for a Whites-only type of society and they are also the 1st or 2nd most atheistic US state, this is because the atheist population directly CAUSES opposition towards White Nationalism and Nazism to disappear.

It’s not mere correlation, it’s causation.

Come come view an atheist as subhuman!

I am not Charlie / Jan 13 2015 1:09 am

Last week , France was stroke by terrorist attacks made by 3 homegrown Muslim fundamentalists.

As a French Christian , I am devastated by the brutality of their murderers and mourns the death of the innocents : the 3 police officers and the 4 hostages who died in the Hyper Casher market.
But the media did not notice that many French don’t support Charlie Hebdo because the paper spread atheism and the material was often racist.

In France , Charlie Hebdo has a right to publish whatever it wants , and never hesitated to reinforce racial hierarchy and bully minorities whenever it can.
The deceased journalists who put lipstick on sexism and racism are victims and martyrs ( of atheist mythology ) but not innocent.

This is not a racial war : the Kouaci brothers shot a French Muslims cop named Ahmed Merabet in cold blood. The victim who has died in the street before a camera , and the murderers are both French Arabs.
Their accomplice is a Black Muslim : Amédy Coulibaly killed a Black police officer from Western Indies.

It is not even a religious war : many Jewish hostages were saved and supported by Muslim employees like Lassana Bathily , the Malian who hide 7 Jews before the police stormed the Hyper Casher market.

It is an atheistic plan to provoke a civil war : the slaughter is the result of years of vile insinuations to incite the white French to bully minorities under the pretext of free speech.

I have a more radical idea I’ve invented JUST for the purpose of ruining everything for the White Nationalist/Nazi movement: Encourage France and every other non-Muslim country to gain a 0% Muslim population and a high non-white non-Muslim population.

I think this would completely cripple and ruin the whole plan.

If France is bold enough to ban the burqa then why not be the first country to ban Muslim immigrants?

It’s the free market, free speech, free society!

I had a YouTube video up called “Atheists/Racists are trying to takeover” and some atheists cried and got it removed for hate speech, can you believe it?

Holocaust hoax videos, pro-Nazi videos, racist videos, etc…aren’t removed for “hate speech” on YouTube but why was mine? It’s just because the atheists want a free pass and protection.

They think that everybody owes them something to society, that everybody has to like and respect them, and that no one should be allowed to criticize them or their beliefs.

Most likely France’s murder rate will still remain lower than all 50 US states (even with the recent Charlie Hebdo shootings).

Most people don’t seem to know that the European countries that Muslims have “invaded” have murder rates lower than all 50 US states (lower than 1.1 per 100,000).

That’s right, lower than every single US state (all 50).

The US state I live in has a murder rate higher than 7.0 per 100,000.

What a big joke.

Things like the Charlie Hebdo shooting occur frequently in the US, but not frequently in mass killings (12 at once), frequently 1 by 1 just in riots or if someone gets mad about something, things like that.

Seems to be around the same as the Batman movie theater shooting (killed 12), but not as bad as the Elementary School Shooting, or Virginia Tech Massacre, or the Norwegian killer.

France has the most Fields Medals and Abel Prizes (equivalent to the Nobel Prize in mathematics) of any country! Are the French the best mathematicians?

But did you know that the first female to win the Fields Medal is from Iran, a non-Western Muslim country? There has never been a female from a Western country that’s won the Fields Medal or Abel Prize!

I guess the Western stereotype of women being bad at mathematics must still be prevalent.

I think this plan I’ve invented is great, with a 0% Muslim population and a high non-white non-Muslim population:
– The whole racist/atheist movement will be ruined, crippled, defeated
– People would pay attention to other things going on (non-Muslim issues) and perhaps other issues will be resolved
– People will see the true evil nature of the atheists spreading White Nationalism and Nazism

I think it’s an ingenious plan.

The media seems to have completely ignored the North Korean threat since they are an official atheist state:
– The Korean War (1950-1953) resulted in 36,516 US military dead
– The War on Terror (Afghanistan and Iraq Wars total from 2001-present) resulted in 6,717 US military dead (so far)
– Military analysts predict that if North Korea attacks South Korea most US troops would die, meaning around 28,000 US troops would die (around 28,500 are stationed there now)

Realistically at any time war could break out with North Korea, I hope it doesn’t happen but if it does it would already result in more than 4 times the US military deaths that the War on Terror has resulted in so far.

If it does happen a draft would be likely and a World War III like scenario realistic!

I just hope it doesn’t happen.

There are many threats facing mankind, I just hope I can prepare in time before a WWIII scenario or food crisis scenario happens (unfortunately these scenarios aren’t that faraway, I hope that I can prevent them).

The atheists and followers of the atheists are possessed by evil, commanded by their real master, Satan. The followers of the atheists who claim to be believers will say “We are the true believers, we just also oppose the religious people, also hate religion, and also agree with the atheists on everything”.

When I looked into it, Newton’s 2034 and 2060 predictions are eerily close to accurate (but the world won’t end, just radically change).

The world’s going to change radically soon, I have to finish working on the technology I need to stay safe.

With the physics and technology I’ve been working I’m sure that I can experimentally prove that God exists, an afterlife exists, multiple timelines exist, and many other things if I just had the power I needed (watts), it’s not that complicated and it’s really real…but I don’t believe the world is really ready for undeniable scientific experimental proof of such things yet. I’ve achieved so much using a few KW of power, if only I had like 1MW – 1GW of power to experiment with.

Once you figure out that multiple timelines exist, that everything is like a timeline portal unit and location as we know it doesn’t really exist a whole new world of technology is opened up. I’m pretty sure others have figured out similar things in the past but it was probably suppressed by the government or other powers that’s why I’m keeping everything a big secret.

I guess I should focus all my time and energy on gaining the resources I need…

If I told you what’s going to happen in the future you would probably never believe me…..

You realise, of course (being a wise being with access to the Internet), that you viewing others as Sub Human is exactly what Hitler was doing with the Jews? It’s also among the beliefs of racist organisations such as (and I hate putting these letters together) the KKK. I’m a Luciferian so I’m kinda impartial here… But you know, cut those guys some slack. Also, I go to a very heavy Catholic school, there are no atheists and it is a lot more racist than public school. There are racist atheists but they’re as racist as the Cathlics and all the other religions. I get you’re just a blogger and all, but you’re quite an (please forgive my language) asshole about all of this. I don’t know about you but this society is ruled by human rights that pledge equality and fairness. You are not a person seeking an equal and just world. Atheists pose less of a threat than this blog actually becoming legitimate.

Just to prove you’re statement invalid, here’s a quote from you:
“The atheist community will probably NEVER EVER oppose racism EVER!”
Um… It’s actually good that they will never go against racism… I mean, if they went for racism the world would kind of suck… You’re not trying to support racism are you?

Just by reading this post I have made an analogy on you and I’ve discovered so many things about you. I don’t need much to figure out this stuff. Source codes. Basic education of literacy. You should start to think before you post. Bad times are coming and nothing will protect you from the fallen one.

To end my statement, it’s impossible to prove God exists. It is impossible to prove how the Universe is/was created. We know about the Big Bang but there is always the inference that there had to be something before it. Unless you can time travel and have the ability to view something larger than the Universe (of which we are but a fraction of a grain of sand) then the only answer for whether religion is real at the moment is faith. You may want to realise that there are more religions than just the one spoken of in the bible, some truths will not work for you but you’ll twist that, blogger.

I’m going to give you a hint to your future, being an upper class seer. You should be careful where your enemies lie. They are the foundation of the platform on which you stand. East and West are clouded, leaving only North and South. You can no longer go North. The knowledge of which you seek remains unfounded and the answer doesn’t arrive. Fear The Archive.

People have to realize the seriousness and threat that atheists pose to society.

No atheist ever responds with something like this “I think that racism is terrible and there really are racist atheists”.

This is because no White atheists actually disagree with racism, Nazism, and White Nationalism like how they disagree with people who oppose gay rights or abortion rights.

You can tell when atheists speak on things like gay rights or abortion rights that they actually disagree and care.

Atheists don’t have to go out of their way and voice their position on things like gay rights and abortion rights, it’s just that they actually care and disagree with people who oppose gay rights and abortion rights.

The reason why the atheist community isn’t coming out to oppose racism or White Nationalism or Nazism is because they don’t disagree with racism/White Nationalism/Nazism.

The atheist community will probably NEVER EVER oppose racism EVER!

The reason why the atheist community is intent on stopping people from criticizing racist atheists is because they know if people criticize them the racism will go down, so by stopping criticism of racism they can ensure that it continues on and on.

All White atheists are in on this together as one!

If you go on YouTube when you click on users who make racist comments you’ll see that at least half of the time the user is atheist, non-Christian, or anti-religious (they favorite videos ridiculing religion, are subscribed to Amazing Atheist, etc…) even with such a low atheist population in the US…can you believe it?

Things would change nearly overnight just like that once the atheist population goes up!

Martin Luther opposed to Judaism ; he opposed to Catholicism as well. Just like atheists are opposed to ALL religions. At this time , antisemitism did not exist. It is not an anticlerical ideology , but a racial theory which rejects Arabs as well.

A former friend of mine ( an atheist ) told me his wife ( also atheist ) supports the communists to “get rid of the Semites ( Jews ) who run the bank system” while he supports the white supremacists “to get rid of the Semites ( the Arab Muslims ) who threaten the European way of life”.

North Korea threatens the free world ( Christian societies ) because of a movie which depicts an attempted assassination of North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un.

« Would-be movie-goers were also advised to “remember the 11th of September 2001.” »

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When North Korean atheists threaten the world with terror attacks against innocent civilians , westerner atheist just ignore them. Why then ? Because white atheists are so racist : they do not consider Asian atheists as true atheists.

That’s true. I mentioned North Korea as an example of an atheist country with an extremely high murder rate and this atheist told me that it didn’t matter because North Korea was a non-Western country.

The majority of White atheists hate Asians and all non-whites in general.

The comments from atheists just re-confirm and solidify that atheists really are subhuman beings, just inherently stupid people who rarely have anything intelligent to say.

People have to realize the seriousness and threat they pose to society, especially in directly causing White Nationalism and Nazism to rise.

The people who think that the majority of White Nationalists are Christian are the ones who have never spoken to White Nationalists and just watch TV and buy into the lies in the atheist-controlled media.

Almost every White Nationalist I’ve spoken to or read of is staunchly anti-Christian.

I’ve spoken to and read what so many White Nationalists have said and a “Christian White Nationalist” is extremely rare, even in the most religious countries.

We already know that 100% of all modern day atheist countries are extremely racist and nationalist. Sweden is so racist when you confront Swedes about it all they say in response is “nationalism isn’t racism”…truly Swedes are disgusting people.

Sweden is so racist that they think that Eastern Europeans ARE African. Now that’s what you call a racist country!

And then you have New Zealand, another racist/atheist country.

You know what Whites do in New Zealand when they see a male Asian walking down the street?

They first politely ask the male Asian for directions to the airport like “You know the direction to the airport? We’re just trying to find some directions” then after the male Asian responds and gives them directions they say something like “So….why don’t you take your slit-eye there and head back to your own poor third-world cardboard box house you stupid Kung Po chicken smelling chink”.

Or instead of doing that what NZers would do is throw trash or half-eaten hamburger meat (at male Asians).

I remember that I was just going for a walk with my cousin, when a car slowed down next to us, and the white New Zealand people in the car started yelling racist insults at us, and then, they threw a half-eaten hamburger which hit my cousin on his head.

My cousin told me that the Chinese people normally always walk in a group of 4 or 5 people, because if a Chinese person walks alone, he is likely to be yelled at and to have rubbish thrown at him by the New Zealand people.

This female atheist I know said something like this to me “I just don’t like Asians”, can you believe it?

Atheists are basically subhumans to society.

The reason why atheists haven’t come out to oppose racism in general or racism in the atheist countries they most celebrate is because no one in the atheist community actually disagrees with racism. If it had been that these countries opposed gay rights or abortion rights or something like that, atheists would come out to voice their position because they actually disagree with people who oppose gay rights and abortion rights.

Atheists will continue to remain silent in opposition towards racism/nationalism and ensure that racism and nationalism thrive!

It’s already happened in 100% of all modern day atheist countries.

Atheists and the atheist community strongly agree with the racism and nationalism going on in Sweden, Denmark, New Zealand, and every other racist/atheist country, that’s why they refuse to criticize them and insist on celebrating them.

Atheists know that they can’t compete with me that’s why they can’t refute any statement I made, they just throw personal attacks.

People have to realize what they’re trying to do to society before it’s too late.

What happens to a country once the atheist population goes up is:
– There becomes absolutely no opposition towards racism and White Nationalism
– The supposedly non-racist atheists NEVER oppose racism
– The supposedly non-racist atheists try to stop people from opposing racist atheists, thereby ensuring that racist atheists are free to be as racist as they want

It’s already happened in 100% of all modern day atheist countries (Denmark, Sweden, New Zealand, etc…).

It must feel really great to be BOTH an atheist and a racist, you have the ENTIRE atheist community on your side!

If you attempt to criticize atheists for being racist in those countries, the ENTIRE atheist community will try to stop you, thereby ensuring that they can be as racist as they want.

I have a dream that one day a natural disaster comes and kills off every single atheist that exists.

Truthfully in all of my entire life I’ve never met even one non-racist atheist.

Great site.Keep up the good work.All the comments from Atheists so far has been mostly ad hominem attacks,tu quoques,straw men and red herrings.If Atheism is a logcial position I’d love to witness even one defend their position rationally.
Why is Atheism true,can Atheists give us any truth concerning existence and do Atheists have any moral codes?Answer this without refering to religion and the bible.

Can you believe that after more than 7 years of that atheist blog post being up 100% of the comments from atheists support racism and not one atheist commented in opposing racism and White Nationalism? (http://www.atheistrev.com/2007/11/atheism-and-white-power.html)
Can you believe even after I’ve pressured atheists to oppose racism not one atheist who’s commented on my blog site has opposed racism?

Where are all the supposedly non-racist atheists? I can’t find any of them, there’s only atheists who comment in to make atheists look good and/or Theists look bad saying things like “I’m such a great person, I’m not a racist” or “atheists are great people only Christians are racist”….none of comments from atheists are like “I think that racism is terrible and there really are lots of racist atheists” (the type of comment we would expect from an atheist who actually disagrees with racism)

Unfortunately it’s not like a joke, it’s really real. Once the atheist population goes up in the US, atheist Nazis and White Nationalists will try to take over.

Are you serious, this lunacy is real? LOL! Well, in that case, let me suggest that no one has addressed your silliness because it’s just too damn weird to even bother. Atheism is a lack of belief in the gods. Period. There is nothing further beyond that point. It is a conclusion based on the rational assessment of all available information concerning that single subject. Atheism, therefore, has as much to say about racism as your particular favourite flavour of Smarties has to say about racism.

Clearly you’re just too dumb to devise any serious argument, or proffer any serious apologetic challenge, so I’d suggest you do actually focus your efforts on this being a parody blog, and enjoy the success of making people laugh.

John ZandeAtheism is a lack of belief in the gods. Period. There is nothing further beyond that point. It is a conclusion based on the rational assessment of all available information concerning that single subject. Atheism

The word lack would imply Atheists have an apathetic stance towards theism rather than an active rejection which is what Atheism is about.
But you also exposed something interesting in that statement.If Atheism is merely a lack of belief in gods then you get your morals from somewhere else which does not involve the “rational assessment” of Atheism.

I reiterate: atheism is nothing but the absence (or rejection) of the belief in the gods. Trying to add anything else simply makes you look like an asinine fool who lacks even a fundamental understanding of the subject you are attempting to engage in. You are, perhaps, thinking more of anti-theism which certainly goes out of its way to address theistic arguments and show them to be thoroughly unconvincing.

Morality is simply a complex extension of empathy which all higher order creatures in possession of enough neurons to project their thoughts off into the near (or distant) future and contemplate the consequences of a said action on themselves, and others. The Golden Rule is a very good working example of this.

I’ve concluded that the atheistic and non-religious population directly causes racism and White Nationalism to thrive because:
– There aren’t any mainstream Christian denominations that accept White Nationalism or Nazism (this is the main reason why most WNs are non-Christian)
– The supposedly non-racist atheists aren’t to be found anywhere actually opposing racism, they’re only found claiming that atheists are great people and/or that Theists are bad or focusing their time and energy on stopping people from opposing racism, but NEVER actually opposing racism

The supposedly non-racist atheists are really the ones ensuring that White Nationalism and Nazism thrives, since they are the ones stopping all criticism and opposition of racist atheists.

Since 100% of all modern day atheist countries are extremely racist and nationalist, it matches into my hypothesis and predictions.

Since no atheist so far has come out to oppose racism (and prove me wrong) even when pressured to, I know that I’m right and an atheist and non-religious society will directly cause White Nationalism and Nazism to thrive. It’s like a dream come true for White Nationalists!

Historically there were always proportionally more non-Christian White Nationalists, even in the most religious Christian countries.

Back in the 1940s-1960s Revilo P. Oliver and William Luther Pierce were prominent White supremacists, but they were atheists or non-Christian, even back then.

The people who think that most WNs and Nazis are Christian are the ones who have never spoken to WNs or researched the topic.

The reason why the atheist community is intentionally refusing to oppose racism is JUST because they’re all on it together, people have to realize the threat that they pose to society.

Sounds like you don’t understand anything about basic history, and are just gullible like the other atheists…what about Galileo (I’m guessing you’re gullible and believe historically inaccurate lies in the media thoroughly debunked by historians)?

Newsflash for the fools (atheists): There aren’t any modern day historians that believe in the “Dark Ages” lie in the atheist-controlled media and historical consensus is that religion directly CAUSED the scientific revolution, the stuff in the atheist-controlled media is truthfully just a bunch of lies.

You can ask any historian, or cite any valid historical source if you disagree.

“The stereotype of the Middle Ages as ‘the Dark Ages’ fostered by Renaissance humanists and Enlightenment philosophes has, of course, long since been abandoned by scholars.” (Raico, Ralph. “The European Miracle”)

“A popular if uninformed manner of speaking refers to the medieval period as “the dark ages.” (Dunphy, Graeme (2007). “Literary Transitions, 1300–1500: From Late Mediaeval to Early Modern” in: The Camden House History of German Literature vol IV: “Early Modern German Literature”)

The reason why atheists and the public think otherwise is JUST because of the atheist-controlled media refusing to tell people the historical consensus. The media is biased and intent on telling lies.

Like I said if you disagree then feel free to cite valid historical sources (not like junk on atheist blog sites).

Now onto why the fools (atheists) are wrong about Galileo:
– Galileo was never tortured, beaten, or executed (it’s just a lie in the media), he was placed under house arrest, but he lived comfortably and wrote his book “Two New Sciences” while under house arrest
– The reason why Galileo had been studying astronomy is because the Church was the biggest sponsor of astronomy
– With Galileo’s contributions alone it would be impossible to tell if heliocentricism really is literally true (geo-heliocentric models would actually be as accurate or MORE accurate), so the Church’s view not to teach heliocentricism as a literal description based on Galileo’s contributions was correct
– The Church didn’t oppose studying heliocentricism, just teaching heliocentricism as a literal description without proof
– The reason why people hadn’t accepted heliocentricism during that time is mostly because: We can all clearly see with our eyes the Sun moving around the Earth, it was impossible to distinguish models, and people insisted on following Ptolemy
– Galileo had ignored Kepler’s work (which was what distinguished heliocentric models from geo-heliocentric models)
– The Church dropped all opposition towards heliocentricism shortly after Newton’s work was accepted (which was what actually solidified heliocentricism, but still did not prove heliocentricism)
– Everything that led up to the scientific revolution (intensely studying philosophy and astronomy) would’ve been viewed as nothing more than philosophical nonsense and a waste of time to atheists

A lot of fools (atheists) don’t know that with Copernicus’ work alone, you can’t distinguish between geocentric, geo-heliocentric, or heliocentric models (they all made equally accurate predictions).

A lot of fools (atheists) don’t know that with Galileo’s work alone, you can’t distinguish between geo-heliocentric and heliocentric models (they both made equally accurate predictions).

Remember we can all clearly see with our own eyes the Sun moving around the Earth, so how can you really tell that heliocentricism is LITERALLY true with Galileo’s contributions alone?

The geocentric model still works extremely accurately for most practical matters and we can see the Sun moving around the Earth with our own eyes, but it’s not literally true.

So how were people supposed to know that heliocentricism was LITERALLY true and not just another model that’s accurate in certain conditions with Galileo’s contributions alone?

With Galeilo’s contributions alone we would still be uncertain if heliocentricism really is literally true (as opposed to another model that’s accurate in certain conditions).

In science you can come up with lots of models that make extremely accurate predictions in certain conditions but aren’t literally true.

If we are to be completely honest and objective with ourselves we can see that one thing can be 100% certain to the highest degree: Atheists and non-religion block human progress, hold back science, and pose the greatest threat to mankind.

Here’s a real world without religion (specifically Christianity), life expectancy in the year 1960:
– Switzerland (the 1st or 2nd most religious Western country): 71
– China (an atheist country undisturbed from Christianity): 43

Source: World Bank

LOL! I guess the truth hurts.

According to atheists we would expect that the initially non-religious and atheist countries would be ahead, instead the historical evidence shows us the opposite.

Only very very recently in history has China gained a life expectancy above Christian Europe’s life expectancy of 35 from the Middle Ages!

China has proportionally the lowest number of Nobel prizes in science per capita.
Switzerland and Austria (the 1st and 2nd most religious Western countries) have the 1st and 2nd most Nobel prizes in science per capita among nations with a population size above 1 million.

Switzerland has 20 Nobel prizes in science with a population size of 8.08 million.
China has 4 Nobel prizes in science with a population size of 1357 million.

So this means China has 5 times less Nobel prizes in science than Switzerland, even though China has a population size that’s 1348 million higher than Switzerland’s!

Human beings need only food, water, and shelter for survival, not astronomy and philosophy (where the scientific revolution came from), without a religion humans have no need to intensely study astronomy and philosophy.

There’s no civilization in all of human pre-science history that decided to intensely study astronomy and philosophy after gaining food, water, and shelter without a religion causing them to.

So based on the historical evidence we can be around 100% certain that without religion there wouldn’t have been any scientific revolution.

Atheism and non-religion have always been the the #1 threats to science, human progress, and mankind as all the historical and scientific evidence shows.

Atheists think that technology and science are artificial are unnatural and just believe in living backwards in the stone age with trees and grass, the atheists have set us back so far.

Just imagine how far ahead technology and science would have been if atheists hadn’t taken over science. We could have used science and technology to turn the world into a Utopia by now!

In the future atheists might try to exterminate science viewing it as nothing more than philosophical nonsense and a waste of time.

It would just be better for society if atheists were exterminated or given a zoo-like area to live in.

The guy you linked to isn’t part of any mainstream Christian denomination.

There aren’t any mainstream Christian denominations that accept White Nationalism or Nazism, that’s how it’s always been throughout history. Because of this the majority of WNs have an issue with Christianity.

It’s just portrayed in the anti-science/atheist-controlled media that most White Nationalists and Nazis are Christian, lol what a joke.

I’ve personally spoken to many White Nationalists and Nazis and encountered almost no Christians. The very very few Christian WNs aren’t part of any mainstream Christian denominations and also hate all mainstream forms of Christianity.

The atheist community hasn’t come out to oppose racism, Nazism, and White Nationalism specifically because they all agree with and support racism/White Nationalism/Nazism.

Wow, you are very soft if Stromfront is too hard stuff for you. It is the most neutral place. You find VERY few republicans there, Biblebelt Neocons have NEVER been popular in the circles. They are even seen as bigger enemies than democrats! Stick around, once the shock and denial passes, you will follow the white rabbit too.
– http://www.atheistrev.com/2007/11/atheism-and-white-power.html

The reason why people think otherwise is just because of the atheist-controlled media.

Even in the most religious Christian countries, the majority or at least half of WNs are non-Christian, atheist, agnostic, or Pagan.

I don’t know if he’s a “true Christian” or whatever…but I do know that he’s not part of any mainstream Christian denomination.

Your response is exactly what I predicted, just changing the subject to claiming that only Christians are racist or whatever thereby helping out the racist atheists (since you’re stopping people from criticizing racist atheists).

That’s exactly what happens once the atheist population goes, all opposition towards racism and White Nationalism ends and the supposedly non-racist atheists NEVER EVER oppose racism.

The people who think that the majority of White Nationalists are Christian are the ones who have never spoken to them….all the way back in history they were always against Christianity.

By “mainstream” are you perhaps referring to general Protestantism, that espoused by Luther?

Here’s a lovely little quote from Martin Luther himself:

“First to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them. This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom, so that God might see that we are Christians, and do not condone or knowingly tolerate such public lying, cursing, and blaspheming of his Son and of his Christians….I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed…I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life and limb…I advise that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews…I advise that usury be prohibited to them, and that all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them and put aside for safekeeping…I commend putting a flail, an ax, a hoe, a spade, a distaff, or a spindle into the hands of young, strong Jews and Jewesses and letting them earn their bread in the sweat of their brow, as was imposed on the children of Adam.”

Nice, huh? Ordering “mainstream” Christians to hunt down and murder other people…

The only Christian White Nationalists to be found are the ones who aren’t part of any mainstream Christian denominations and have to fight off both all the non-Christian White Nationalists + all the mainstream Christian denominations, like the people who follow “Christian Identity”.

Alex Linder (the owner and operator of the popular Vanguard News Network (VNN), an antisemitic, white supremacist website) has this to say about CI (Christian Identity):

CI is sheer retardation.

For some reason, idiots just love to make predictions based on the Bible. These predictions are inevitably proven wrong, but that never stops the morons from coming back with new ones.

Only a certifiable retard would attempt to treat the Bible like the shit in it is real history rather than fictional tales.

There is not an ounce of difference between dispensationalist Rapture Bunnies and CI cretins. – Alex Linder

The majority of White Nationalists feel the same way that Alex Linder does about CI and Christianity in general.

“Christian Identity” isn’t accepted by any mainstream Christian denomination and is composed of very few members (the CI forum website has less than 300 members).

The reason why the atheist community can’t handle the truth that the majority of WNs are non-Christian and that the atheist/agnostic/non-religious population directly causes White Nationalism to grow is because they are biased, can’t accept what atheists are doing to society, and are intent on making atheists look good at all costs (rather than on ending racism).

The supposedly non-racist atheists are turning the world into a really racist place since they are doing everything in their power to stop people from opposing racist atheists, thereby ensuring that they can be as racist as they want.

If someone is Christian and a racist or White Nationalist they have to fight off all the other Christians + all the other non-Christian WNs who hate Christianity.

If someone is an atheist and a racist or White Nationalist they don’t have to fight off anyone and they have the ENTIRE atheist community working to stop people from opposing racist atheists.

Prepare for the future!

Once the atheist population goes up racism/White Nationalism/Nazism will rise!

You’ll see everything change just like that overnight just because of the atheist population.

You can’t handle the truth that atheism/non-religion directly causes racism/White Nationalism/Nazism to thrive so you just change the subject to crap about quotes from 500 years ago, lol.

How is it relevant? What matters is how White Nationalists and Nazis feel about Christianity, which the vast majority are non-Christian.

Throughout history (even all the way back in the 1700s and earlier) there were always proportionally more non-Christian White Nationalists, this is because there aren’t any mainstream Christian denominations that accept White Nationalism or Nazism, so this attracts mostly non-Christians to White Nationalism.

Because of the atheists’ community’s refusal to oppose racism/White Nationalism/Nazism, the atheist/non-religious population directly CAUSES White Nationalism to thrive!

I’ve begged and pressured atheists to oppose racism and none of them have, they just respond the same way you do, changing the subject and/or trying to make atheists look good, but NEVER EVER actually opposing racism.

Atheists can’t deny the hard facts, they feel about themselves (not bad about the racism, but about making atheists look bad), that’s why they respond that way.

Truthfully atheists are the nastiest most disgusting form of life!

Atheists just can’t handle the hard facts:
– Most White Nationalists and Nazis are non-Christian specifically because there aren’t any mainstream Christian denominations that accept White Nationalism or Nazism
– Throughout history there were always proportionally more non-Christian White Nationalists, like Revilo P. Oliver and William Luther Pierce from the 1960s
– Tom Metzger founder of Neo-Nazi group White Aryan Resistance is an atheist
– Larry Darby former state director of the popular atheist group “American Atheists” is a holocaust denier
– Alex Linder owner and operator of the popular White Nationalist forum VNN is an atheist
– Lady Michele Renouf (a popular Austrian-born atheist British actress) is a White Nationalist and holocaust denier
– 100% of the comments from atheists on this NORMAL atheist blog site support racism http://www.atheistrev.com/2007/11/atheism-and-white-power.html, not one atheist has commented in opposing racism even though that blog post has been up for more than 7 years!

So where are all the supposedly non-racist atheists actually opposing racism? There aren’t any, the supposedly non-racist atheists are only found focusing their time and energy on changing the subject to claiming that only Theist are racist or making atheists look good, that’s it.

Oh, here’s a nice article for you about white supremacists being Christians… Just to put your conspiracies to bed once and for all. I particularly like this line:

They’re certainly Christian, but not just any Christian—they’re evangelical Protestant, Pentacostalist, and members of radical sects that preach racial purity as the Word of Jesus.

and let’s not ignore this passage:

Some belong to churches like the Christian Identity Church, which gained a foothold on the Far Right in the early 1980s. Christian Identity’s focus on racism and anti-Semitism provides the theological underpinnings to the shift from a more “traditional agrarian protest” to paramilitarism. It is from the Christian Identity movement that the Far Right gets its theological claims that Adam is the ancestor of the Caucasian race, whereas non-whites are pre-Adamic “mud people,” without souls, and Jews are the children of Satan. According to this doctrine, Jesus was not Jewish and not from the Middle East; actually, he was northern European, his Second Coming is close at hand, and followers can hasten the apocalypse. It is the birthright of Anglo-Saxons to establish God’s kingdom on earth; America’s and Britain’s “birthright is to be the wealthiest, most powerful nations on earth . . . able, by divine right, to dominate and colonize the world.”

How ridiculous…I just don’t know how someone can be this delusional…what the atheist-controlled media does is what’s called cherry picking. The very very VERY few Christian White Nationalists are the ones in the media and on TV, the vast majority of White Nationalists who are non-Christian, atheist, agnostic, etc…don’t make the atheist-controlled media because the media is biased and wants people to think good things about atheism and bad things about religion.

The media is actually helping out WNs by not criticizing the majority of White Nationalists who are staunchly non-Christian, even in the most religious countries that have extremely low non-Christian populations.

This comment from this NORMAL atheist blog site (not meant to be a racist fan site) basically debunks your post:

Wow, you are very soft if Stromfront is too hard stuff for you. It is the most neutral place. You find VERY few republicans there, Biblebelt Neocons have NEVER been popular in the circles. They are even seen as bigger enemies than democrats! Stick around, once the shock and denial passes, you will follow the white rabbit too. – http://www.atheistrev.com/2007/11/atheism-and-white-power.html

You mentioned “Christian Identity” (CI), but CI is not accepted by any mainstream Christian denomination, here’s what Alex Linder (atheist, owner and operator of the White Nationalist forum VNN) has to say about CI:

CI is sheer retardation.

For some reason, idiots just love to make predictions based on the Bible. These predictions are inevitably proven wrong, but that never stops the morons from coming back with new ones.

Only a certifiable retard would attempt to treat the Bible like the shit in it is real history rather than fictional tales.

There is not an ounce of difference between dispensationalist Rapture Bunnies and CI cretins. – Alex Linder

The majority of White Nationalists feel the same way about CI as Alex Linder does, since it’s not accepted by any mainstream Christian denomination that it’s crap.

All mainstream Christian denominations oppose White Nationalism and teach people to support Israel.

The very very very few Christian WNs have to fight off both all mainstream Christian denominations + all the other non-Christian WNs who really hate Christianity.

You just respond with the same tactic atheists use to ensure that White Nationalism and racism thrives – change the subject to claiming Theists are racist and/or try to make atheists look good.

Just like how North Korea is an official atheist state and kills people for not accepting atheism and possessing Bibles but the media never mentions that they are atheist.

Or just like how the Batman movie theater shooter was atheist-agnostic but the media didn’t mention it.

Basically every atheist agrees that Martin Luther King Jr. was just another delusional creationist reverend.

The most celebrated liberal atheist biologist of ALL time, James D. Watson gave his rebuttal to Martin Luther King Jr.’s creationist argument that “all men are created equal”:

“there was a natural desire that all human beings should be equal but people that have to deal with black employees find this not true” – Liberal atheist biologist, Nobel prize winner, James D. Watson, October 2007

Liberal atheist biologists have concluded that certain ethnic groups are more aggressive more prone to crime, that some can run faster, and that some are more intelligent.

Atheists just can’t handle the hard facts:
– Most White Nationalists and Nazis are non-Christian specifically because there aren’t any mainstream Christian denominations that accept White Nationalism or Nazism
– Throughout history there were always proportionally more non-Christian and atheist White Nationalists, like Revilo P. Oliver and William Luther Pierce from the 1960s
– Tom Metzger founder of Neo-Nazi group White Aryan Resistance is an atheist
– Larry Darby former state director of the popular atheist group “American Atheists” is a holocaust denier
– Alex Linder owner and operator of the popular White Nationalist forum VNN is an atheist
– Lady Michele Renouf (a popular Austrian-born atheist British actress) is a White Nationalist and holocaust denier
– 100% of the comments from atheists on this NORMAL atheist blog site support racism http://www.atheistrev.com/2007/11/atheism-and-white-power.html, not one atheist has commented in opposing racism even though that blog post has been up for more than 7 years!

I’ve spoken to and read what so many White Nationalists and Nazis have said and know with 100% certainty that the majority are non-Christian…if you talk to like 1,000 White Nationalists you might encounter like a total of 2 pro-Christian WNs (even in the most religious Christian countries), the majority of WNs always say things like:
– “Christ-insanity is from the Joo’s texts”
– “Christianity is a disgusting non-European Semitic religion”
– “Christians are Joo worshipers”
– “How can you be a Christian and a White Nationalist? Their ideologies contradict each other”

They don’t say “Jew” they say “Joo”.

But I’m still trying to figure out who atheists hate more, the Jew or the Muslim?

That doesn’t surprise me.Atheists would have us all believe that Jesus is the source of all white racism and for the holocaust in particular.In other words:Jesus made us do it.
Instead of attacking the source of racism which is based on pseudo-science and European supremacism which has its roots in ancient Rome,we attack the Bible,a complete straw man.The Roman conquest of Palestine is a good example of European supremacism and proto-racism where the true cause of anti-Semetism lie.

Initially I believed that most WNs and Nazis were probably Christian because of the media, but then I researched it and spoken to Nazis and White Nationalists myself and found very very few Christians.

The stuff on TV is just lies, actually helping out the White Nationalist community since it prevents people from criticizing White Nationalists.

White Nationalists all have one thing in common – their hatred of Christianity, what they view as a disgusting Semitic religion.

Even the very few Christian WNs (who aren’t part of any mainstream Christian denomination) hate all mainstream Christian denominations as well.

You are, perhaps, thinking more of anti-theism which certainly goes out of its way to address theistic arguments and show them to be thoroughly unconvincing.

Anti-theism appears to be a subcategory of Atheism.The former is a more aggressive approach of the latter.Atheists will oscillate between the two depending on their mood at the time.Harris,Dawkins et al are what?Atheists or Anti-theists?

Morality is simply a complex extension of empathy which all higher order creatures in possession of enough neurons to project their thoughts off into the near (or distant) future and contemplate the consequences of a said action on themselves, and others. The Golden Rule is a very good working example of this.

First off,Atheists believe all of reality is composed of matter.Should empathy exist (in the brain) then it should be reducible to the material too.Instead what’s found in the brain are tissue,cells and blood flow.Neither of which contains any trace or chunks of empathy that can be tested empirically.So your assertion is merely an unjustified extrapolation.
The same applies to the Golden Rule, it falls outside the Atheist’s epistemology for discovering truth,since Atheists claim only science can produce truths.The Golden Rule is only intuitively valid,also not falsifiable,replicable,experimental and quantifiable under the rules of empiricism.Unless you can conclusively prove using scientific methodology that intuition and empathy are purely material contents.

And once again, your rather ridiculous efforts to add something to “atheism” makes you look like an asinine fool who lacks even a fundamental understanding of the subject you are attempting to engage in. And I see you repeat the same error again further down: “since Atheists claim only science can produce truths”. Congratulations! You are officially an asinine fool who lacks even a fundamental understanding of the subject you are attempting to engage in.

Here, I’ll write this slowly because I suspect you can’t read fast. The brain is an image processing, storage and retrieval device. In other words: it is set up to process images from the real world and store them electrochemically. That is to say, the physical residue of experience, otherwise known as memories. Until roughly three years of age a baby has no memories because its brain is, quite literally, hooking itself up through a process called aborisation. It has no sense of self, and has no idea of even what it is. After the frantic process of aborisation settles down the child can begin to store images, memories, and can access these memories at will, using that electrochemically stored information to formulate thoughts in the present, and when required project ideas out into the future, mentally testing them against known reality; that which we “remember,” and can “envisage.” It’s a neat trick, and all higher order animals have this ability. Perhaps you should do some research into the higher cognitive functions of primates. It’s rather interesting. Empathy (perception of the consequences of a possible future action) exists as a processed evaluation based entirely on real world experiences.

John ZandeAnd once again, your rather ridiculous efforts to add something to “atheism” makes you look like an asinine fool who lacks even a fundamental understanding of the subject you are attempting to engage in. And I see you repeat the same error again further down: “since Atheists claim only science can produce truths”. Congratulations! You are officially an asinine fool who lacks even a fundamental understanding of the subject you are attempting to engage in.

This is really pathetic.I thought you were able to have a calm and rational discussion.You haven’t refuted anything I said here except engage in insults.Also,I attack the brand of Atheism that your public intellectuals (Harris et al) espouse not your personal views of Atheism.

Here, I’ll write this slowly because I suspect you can’t read fast. The brain is an image processing, storage and retrieval device. In other words: it is set up to process images from the real world and store them electrochemically. That is to say, the physical residue of experience, otherwise known as memories. Until roughly three years of age a baby has no memories because its brain is, quite literally, hooking itself up through a process called aborisation. It has no sense of self, and has no idea of even what it is. After the frantic process of aborisation settles down the child can begin to store images, memories, and can access these memories at will, using that electrochemically stored information to formulate thoughts in the present, and when required project ideas out into the future, mentally testing them against known reality; that which we “remember,” and can “envisage.” It’s a neat trick, and all higher order animals have this ability. Perhaps you should do some research into the higher cognitive functions of primates.

This evidence for what?I’m aware of how memories are stored,which was not the argument being made.You have failed to prove that intuition and empathy are material.

It’s rather interesting. Empathy (perception of the consequences of a possible future action) exists as a processed evaluation based entirely on real world experiences

Finally,your contention is that empathy predicts possible outcomes.This is a gross distortion of the definition.According to your redefinition of empathy,if a child avoids touching a hot plate because of a prior experience then that child is showing empathy and therefore being moral.
Clearly you have no comprehension of what empathy actually is.Itsnobody is correct,Atheists are indeed subhuman.

Sweet Veles, you have a ghastly habit of adding things that simply do not exist. Now, I did write my previous comment slowly (because I suspected you couldn’t read fast), but it appears that didn’t help you comprehend what was written one bit. Friend, you’re having imaginary conversations in your head, and you look utterly ridiculous inventing conversations that never happened. Now pay attention to what was actually written: empathy is the “product” of our ability to predict the consequences of actions on others. Now, even slower: no one said empathy “predicts.” Once again, really, really slowly: it is the product of, and morality is nothing but a more formalised manifestation of this cognitive ability.

Seriously, you have to calm those voices in your head and focus on what people actually say. Did you take my advice and read up on studies concerning the higher cognitive functions in primates? You should. It might help save you future embarrassment.

Let me guess, you’re a first year student at some bible school in the United States, right?

Now pay attention to what was actually written: empathy is the “product” of our ability to predict the consequences of actions on others. Now, even slower: no one said empathy “predicts.” Once again, really, really slowly: it is the product of, and morality is nothing but a more formalised manifestation of this cognitive ability.

It seems you don’t even know the meaning of the word “actually”,because this is what you actually wrote above.

It’s rather interesting. Empathy (perception of the consequences of a possible future action) exists as a processed evaluation based entirely on real world experiences

Notice that right after the word “Empathy” you give your very own definition in brackets which does not contain the words “product of” and “on others”.

But let’s take on your new redefinition of empathy.

empathy is the “product” of our ability to predict the consequences of actions on others

No you sick Atheist freak.Predicting consequences of actions on others is not empathy.If a gunman storms into a building with the intent to terrorize and kill and accomplishes his mission then he has correctly predicted the consequences of his actions on others,ie to destroy lives.Now how in the freakin’ hell is that empathy?
Rapists are well aware that their actions traumatize their victims,that’s why they do it.

Please…do give me yet another redefinition of empathy.How are you going to weasel your stupid ass out of this one?

No you sick Atheist freak. Predicting consequences of actions on others is not empathy.

LOL! You’re priceless, and evidently having a minor emotional breakdown. So, once again you have demonstrated that you have a tremendously serious problem in basic reading and comprehension. I knew the education standard in the US was bad, but you, sir, are a poster child of why your country is a laughing stock when it comes to an educated youth. Yes, I’m sorry, but predicting the consequences of your actions on another (ie. putting yourself in their shoes to understand how they would feel if said action is performed) is exactly what empathy is. And once again: morality is merely a more formalised expression of this cognitive skill (a skill shared by our primate cousins), projected onto a larger stage.

Have you researched the higher cognitive functions in primates yet? I somehow doubt it. Educating yourself (education in general) doesn’t seem to be a strong suit with you.

But again, congratulations! You are revealing yourself with every new comment to be an asinine fool who lacks even a fundamental understanding of the subject you are attempting to engage in.

Seriously, tell me, you are a first year student at a bible school, aren’t you?

predicting the consequences of your actions on another and putting yourself in their shoes to understand how they feel is not the same thing.

The first definition contains absolutely no mention of understanding the other person’s feelings.It’s merely anticipating a result of ones actions on another.For example:If I rob someone I will be arrested.I have then predicted what will be the outcome should I perform such an action without any need for understanding the others feelings.
You are desperately trying to make sense an irrational statement.

And once again: morality is merely a more formalised expression of this cognitive skill (a skill shared by our primate cousins), projected onto a larger stage.

So you don’t think laws against child molestation and, say, murder, are formalised moral concepts? Interesting. Tell me, what are such laws if not formalised expressions of some moral idea demarking right from wrong behaviour? But let’s be clear, a law is a hard copy of a moral notion shared by a population; a notion established from the base skill of empathy, then reinforced through cultural institutions such as education and parenting. You see, you’re getting yourself all terribly confused by believing empathy has something to do with an action being good or bad. It doesn’t. As a cognitive skill it is indifferent to such matters. The value is conferred by the participants, and this assessment can be quite fluid. As a working example, just today Pope Francis came out and condemned human trafficking, yet his religion, and yours, is drawn upon a bedrock faith which didn’t only approved of such trafficking (slavery), but codified certain rules around it. Jesus certainly didn’t condemn slavery, did he? Quite the opposite, in fact. He clearly stated the Law of Moses would stand till the end of time.

Now, I don’t even know how we got onto this subject, but allow me to help your education along. Your god only knows, you need it. Monkeys Show Sense Of Fairness, Study Says. This is an old study, there are many just like it, but it serves our purposes here, and as an added bonus for you, its simple to read. Now, quiet down those noisy voices in your head, breathe, relax, and read the article slowly and carefully.

Now, explain to me where the monkey’s sense of fair play comes from if not from them being in possession of enough neurons to project their thoughts off into the near future and assess the consequences of an action on others?

And why won’t you confirm to me that you’re a first year student at a bible school? Are you embarrassed by it?

(I’ll attach another article in a following comment, for risk of this one going into moderation with two links)

So you don’t think laws against child molestation and, say, murder, are formalised moral concepts? Interesting. Tell me, what are such laws if not formalised expressions of some moral idea demarking right from wrong behaviour?

This fits perfectly with your initial definition of empathy,which was

predicting the consequences of your actions on another

The only reason you and other Atheists choose to follow our laws is because of the consequences of being imprisoned.There’s no guarantee that those laws won’t be violated if there are no police or witnesses around,since you have no compunction other than avoiding penalties.Also,our laws are subject to change as opposed to objective moral codes which are universal and unconditioned.Changing your morals as laws change means your principles are malleable and you can’t generate trust.That’s why Atheists are the most distrusted group in America.

But let’s be clear, a law is a hard copy of a moral notion shared by a population; a notion established from the base skill of empathy, then reinforced through cultural institutions such as education and parenting.

Yeah,I don’t trust your “empathy skills” since they have been shown to be extremely dubious.

As a working example, just today Pope Francis came out and condemned human trafficking, yet his religion, and yours, is drawn upon a bedrock faith which didn’t only approved of such trafficking (slavery), but codified certain rules around it. Jesus certainly didn’t condemn slavery, did he? Quite the opposite, in fact. He clearly stated the Law of Moses would stand till the end of time

First of all,you have no idea what my religion is or if I have any.My primary concern is wherher or not Atheism can produce any truths and do Atheists have any objective moral codes that can generate trust?
Even though I’m not Catholic,I’d choos to live under the Inquistion than Atheist Communist rule because the latter has a far mor uncivilized,brutal and corrupt history,albeit very short lived.

Monkeys Show Sense Of Fairness, Study Says. This is an old study, there are many just like it, but it serves our purposes here, and as an added bonus for you, its simple to read

Once again the author of this blog is correct,Atheists are subhuman and you just keep on confirming it.On the one hand you revere animal behavior which includes pedophilia and murder even though you omit that part and on the other hand you contradict yourself by claiming your morality has been formalized by our laws.
Given that you take recourse to animal behavior surely it’s not a stretch for Atheists to someday even legalize pedophilia,incest and infanticide.And then you will be forced to change your morals too.In fact,Atheist North Korea has already legalized infanticide,which is perfectly in line with Atheist metaphysical naturalism.

Now, explain to me where the monkey’s sense of fair play comes from if not from them being in possession of enough neurons to project their thoughts off into the near future and assess the consequences of an action on others?

Monkeys also screw their parents and siblings.And your point is?

Conclusion:You claim that our laws are codified from animal behavior but failed to mention how that correlates with Atheism which was the original discussion.Yet our laws change and are different in each country,meaning that you are perfectly fine with screwing a child should you live in the middle east because it’s legal over there.You reject some animal behavior but accept some but failed to mention what gives you the ability to discern which is right and wrong.Surely you can see that playing unfair is right (in the animal kingdom) if it advances your troupe or yourself.Playing fair when self-preservation (or survival of the fittest) is at stake would be detrimental to the troupe.

Wow, you’ve delivered such an astounding barrage of nonsense here that it’s difficult to know even where to begin. But let’s start with the most obvious: your claim of “Our laws.” This is frightfully interesting, yet utterly baffling. What do you mean by “Our laws”? Do you think the laws of modern states are based on Christianity? If so, please demonstrate one such law. I’d be tremendously interested to see what you “think” is a Christian law.

Tell me, what is an objective moral code that is universal and unconditioned? All well and good to make such wild statements, but adults who’re in full command of their faculties typically back such things up with actual examples. Can you?

Now, you simply ignored the fact that your religion (yes, I’m assuming you’re a Christian) is drawn upon a faith that not only approved of slavery but codified laws around it. You also ignored the fact that Jesus didn’t condemn slavery, yet today we have enlightened ourselves to its abhorrent nature. So do please show me an unmovable objective moral truth which is demonstrated in, and only in, your religion. Show me a law in effect today that would not exist if your religion never emerged. Again, I’d be tremendously interested to see what you might say.

I caution you: take your time before answering. I suspect you know next to nothing about history, and therefore run the risk of embarrassing yourself in unnecessary ways by revealing your staggering ignorance.

And congratulations: you completely and entirely dodged addressing the proven prevalence of highly organised empathetic (moral) behaviour in primates. Heads up, as much as you’d like to think otherwise, ignoring awkward facts doesn’t make them go away. The fact that you did simply ignore addressing the matter indicates to me that you are a Creationist, possibly a Young Earth Creationist. Is this true?

And you still haven’t answered my question: are you a first year student at a bible school?

The supposedly non-racist atheists aren’t opposing racism, instead they’re focusing all their energy on stopping people from opposing racist atheists, thereby ensuring that racist atheists are free to be as racist as they want.

If they actually disagreed with racism then they would oppose racism, not try to stop people from opposing racism.

If any atheist is reading this, then seriously I hope that a natural disaster just kills you off.

It’s pathetic if it’s comedy and just sad if this guy is for real. Imagine having to live with this kind of thinking combined with the ego necessary to think it worth championing. Maybe I mixed up the descriptors; sad comedy from a pathetic guy? Either way, not worth my time.

Why don’t you fools (atheists) try to refute something that I said instead of just throwing personal attacks?

Truthfully atheists are disgusting pathetic people. By throwing personal attacks at me they re-confirm what I said about atheists valuing authority and incredulity over empirical observations and valid reasoning.

Even if the fools (atheists) threw a 1000 personal attacks at me it wouldn’t refute any statement that I made.

Being as you supported none of your claims with evidence, had directly contradicted yourself by the end of the post, and seemed to be doing your best to make yourself look like complete scum, I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you’re a poe.

That makes you immoral. Saying I think atheism is a bad thing is coming out against racism. And last I checked, the slaveholders of the south used the Bible to justify their slavery. So no, it is not atheists that cause racism. As for nationalism, It’s not atheism that American school pledge their allegiance to, and they don’t pledge allegiance in the name of atheism either.

You’re just changing the subject to claiming that Theists are racist in order to avoid what I said and ensure that racist atheists can be as racist as they want.

Why do you fools (atheists) always do that for instead of coming out to oppose racism? It’s because you don’t disagree with racism, you disagree with me labeling atheists as bad for being racist, that’s what you actually disagree with.

Newsflash: White Nationalists hate Christianity and slavery.

White Nationalists hate slavery…bringing in lots of African immigration just because some people want slaves, that’s why the people in the North opposed slavery, to preserve a Whites-only type of society. They don’t want African slaves, they want a Whites-only type of society.

Wow, you are very soft if Stromfront is too hard stuff for you. It is the most neutral place. You find VERY few republicans there, Biblebelt Neocons have NEVER been popular in the circles. They are even seen as bigger enemies than democrats! Stick around, once the shock and denial passes, you will follow the white rabbit too. – http://www.atheistrev.com/2007/11/atheism-and-white-power.html

Stormfront is one of the most popular White Nationalist websites in the world!
That comment from that NORMAL atheist blog site basically debunks your post, lol.

– Larry Darby former state director of popular atheist group “American Atheists” is a holocaust denier.
– Tom Metzger founder of the Neo-Nazi group “White Aryan Resistance” is an atheist
– Alex Linder, the owner and operator of the Vanguard News Network (VNN), a very popular antisemitic, white supremacist website is atheist

And this is just in the US with such a low atheist population of 0.7%, just imagine what’s going to happen once the atheist population goes up.

Honestly, seriously, if you’re an atheist then I just hope that you die off (by a natural disaster).

If atheists oppose racism like they say they do then why in more than 7 years of that post being up hasn’t ONE ATHEIST COMMENTED OPPOSING RACISM FOR?

I just hope that a natural disaster KILLs off your disgusting atheist kind.

Where are all the supposedly non-racist atheists opposing racism? They’re nowhere to be found, there’s just a bunch of atheists claiming to be “great people and non-racist” JUST for the purpose of making atheists look good and ensuring that racism thrives on.

I already cited lots of evidence and links, as for “proof” I don’t know what you mean.

I’ve been encouraging Universities to publish a peer-reviewed study on “The Religious views of those who identify themselves as White Nationalists” but atheists are trying to stop it, because they know that it’ll show that most WNs are non-Christian.