A scientist once said "DNA just happening is like a tornado passing through a junk yard and creating a fully functioning car".....that tornado could last billions of years and yet would not be able to do such a thing.....

I dont know tbh...

I think we evolve/adapt but thats not an explanation for life in general....

For all we know there could be MANY different ancestors....who's to say one bacteria didnt come from outta space and mix with current bacteria creating a new one.....and later on other 'invasions' havent spurred evolution??

Water on this planet came from somewhere....if the earth was all molten then water couldnt exist....yet once it cooled and water asteroids containing bacteria landed.....those bacteria didnt have to all be the same....did they!?!?

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right but evolution is not some sort of all-encompassing philosophy that can explain every thing.. there are always going to be a million hypothetical 'what-ifs' that you could throw out there

There are some compelling speakers out there who would have you believe it, that would interpret it as being a dinosaur so convincingly that you would be at a loss for any other explanation. They might even be convinced of it themselves. They might have been convinced of it by someone else. They might have added on to it, and if they weren't really sure, they may have been able to convince themselves of it.

I stand to reason that this is only a myth propagated by the inventive mind in an ever changing understanding of the world. Christians continue to reinvent the Bible into modernity. And what do you know? It's nothing new under the sun.

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that was a convo between job an God tho. An christians dont reinvent the bible. There are versions like aplified which is more wordy. An they may update the language from thou, thus, thee, to him, so, you.Biotch! You wish you had a phone like mine...

right but evolution is not some sort of all-encompassing philosophy that can explain every thing.. there are always going to be a million hypothetical 'what-ifs' that you could throw out there

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i think this response was lazy on my part and i rushed through it. let me give a better answer to what you said.

basically, what you propose, that life couldn't arise on its own and that it's more likely that it came from aliens, is a common belief. i know many who believe this. some even believe that aliens came and intervened in the process of human evolution specifically, while others believe as you said that life came in the form of bacteria on some asteroid.

these theories seem to be based on the assumption that life is not a naturally arising process. that there is indeed something 'supernatural' about life itself. i think that this doesn't hold up if you really think about it. if life came in the form of aliens from another planet, that still doesn't explain where that alien life came from.

presumably the aliens are from the same universe as we are. so where did the first alien life come from? the only real conclusion i can come to is that life is an independently arising natural process of the universe. that it's a matter of complex chemistry and probability, and that is why it seems so hard for us to find other life in the universe as is. that doesn't mean it isn't out there, but clearly we see that a large portion of space is hostile to life. the odds of life arising on its own could be astronomically small but the universe is astronomically large. somewhere along the lines this scenario does play out, as we see here on earth.

another thing i'd like to point out is that earth seems to be an ideal environment for life. this gives even more strength to the idea that it arose here as a natural process. when you consider the likelihood that life would not only arise/find its way onto some asteroid traveling through the cosmos but also land on a planet that has liquid water and is ideal for life and actually survive not only the trip through space but the crash landing, you see that this is actually much less likely than the prospect that life arose here on its own.

now understand this isn't actually to do with the theory of evolution. that's why i was reluctant to delve into this before. because technically speaking the alien scenario could have happened and evolution would still be a real process that dictates life here on earth. the further back we go in the biological history of life on earth, the harder it becomes to read. this is because on a microscopic level life behaves differently and isn't necessarily limited to mutations through procreation alone. this was also covered in the full version of the text at the link i provided.

As with any investigational scientific method, certain conditions must hold in order for the results to be reliable. A common premise of all molecular phylogenetic methods is that genes are transmitted via vertical, lineal inheritance, i.e. from ancestor to descendant. If this premise is violated, gene trees will never recapitulate an organismic phylogeny. This assumption is violated in instances of horizontal transfer, e.g. in transformation of a bacterium by a DNA plasmid, or in retroviral insertion into a host's genome. During the early evolution of life, before the advent of multicellular organisms, horizontal transfer was likely very frequent (as it is today in the observed evolution of bacteria and other unicellular organisms). Thus, it is questionable whether molecular methods are applicable, even in principle, to resolving the phylogeny of the early evolution of life near the most recent common ancestor of all living organisms (Doolittle 1999; Doolittle 2000; Woese 1998).

You could be kinda right there^the bible says we are citizens of heaven the kingdom of God thus we are like aliens on this planet. So in a way that may be true.Biotch! You wish you had a phone like mine...

Again I dont disagree with Evolution...I just dont think it explains everything.....adaptation is real but to the extent that its so diversified raises questions to me....the question that there are probably a group of ancestors rather than one for all life.....animals could have evolved from different ancestors but all with DNA....where DNA comes from is a big question and one I dont think can easily answer

you mean different ancestors could've evolved independently into different animals, with completely different origins? once again like the alien theory this is something that is not outside the actual realm of possibilities of how life could have arisen on a planet, but it doesn't seem consistent with the evidence at hand.

all life is generally seen to be related. whats key about DNA is how its spread throughout the earth, which is through reproduction most commonly in the form of procreation. when you take this into consideration, along with the 'family trees' we're able to construct using genetics, the idea is generally that whether its one single common ancestor or several common ancestors through horizontal transfer on the microscopic level, life is essentially from one single source rather than multiple independent sources.

Hey reg if u have time u should check out Creation Ministries Mobile Site u may be into the subject matter. An may be a good place for u to begin ur search.Biotch! You wish you had a phone like mine...

Hi, I've nothing to add to what reggie-jax has said, but I'd like to say this is the most polite and reasonable discussion of this subject I've seen in a very long time.
Thanks for providing me with proof that it's possible to be young; enjoy rap music and video games; and be intelligent and articulate.

This discussion is getting shoved under the nose of the next of my peers that says "Kids these days....blah. blah, (I'm sure you know the rest).

Interesting. Well with exception to whats heard on the radio, rap is about articulation. Add a topic people are passionate about and an intelligent conversation surely can arise. Lol. Anyways ya thats the purpose of this forum in particular. Appreciate the sentiment.Biotch! You wish you had a phone like mine...