You may think you know nothing about North Carolina’s treasurer, but if you live in the state, it’s a job that almost certainly affects your life. Dan Blue III is the Democratic candidate for the office. He’s also the son of previous podcast guest Dan Blue, Jr., the minority leader in the North Carolina Senate.

We talk about his nuanced view of Wall Street - he used to work there, after all - at a time when many voters want to watch it Bern.