Re: lynx-dev patch that allows text inputs to be non-sticky

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asgilman

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Re: lynx-dev patch that allows text inputs to be non-sticky

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Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:43:57 -0400 (EDT)

What follows is educated hunches.
I have some idea that people using screen readers would find it confusing to
drop into an edit field and the keystroke vocabulary suddenly change under them.
In other words, the pre-2.3 behavior where one had to manually open an entry
field to enter stuff in it is IMHO more friendly to [a least the novice]
eyes-free user. There are more keystrokes but the state changes are obvious.
I have also spoken up on the WAI User Agent list complaining about
automatically submitting on ENTER for forms that lack a SUBMIT element.
This is a trap for folks who are used to closing a text entry with ENTER.
Generally speaking, forms without explicit SUBMIT are treacherous in
eyes-free mode where it is harder to know the full extent of the form and
what is being submitted. Better to be pedantic, so far as I can tell.
These are my rough ideas; I haven't studied the matter systematically.
Al
For what it's worth, here are my nominees for a more explanatory flag
name in lynx.cfg:
One setting is OPEN_ENTRY_FIELDS:AUTO
Its opposite is OPEN_ENTRY_FIELDS:MANUAL
Don't create the hybrid. If MANUAL, keep it that way for all fields.
It's hard enough to follow the modal changes as it is.
The flag for the other one could be
FORMS_WITHOUT_SUBMIT_ELEMENT:SUBMIT_ON_ENTER
FORMS_WITHOUT_SUBMIT_ELEMENT:INSERT_ELEMENT
> * Subject: Re: lynx-dev patch that allows text inputs to be
> non-sticky
> * From: "Lloyd G. Rasmussen" <address@hidden>
> * Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:31:35 -0400
>
>I have no idea. I run Lynx with show_cursor on. The cursor is either on a
>field or on the status line. That's all I know. Status line messages need
>to be informative, as they usually have been in Lynx.
>
>
>At 11:18 AM 7/28/99 -0600, you wrote:
>>In a recent note, Vlad Harchev said:
>>
>>> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:10:14 +0500 (SAMST)
>>>
>>> As I described in my previous message, the cursor is blinking in 'entered'
>>> textinput, and not blinking in 'not yet entered'.
>>
>>How does this work in audio and Braille?
>>
>
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