Malzberg: “You’re telling me, that you’ve talked to people in his inner circle, or the administration, that are telling you that even though there are groups that might be on our terror list…Obama, in his mind, doesn’t consider them to be terrorists because what — they have a gripe?”

Attkisson: “I don’t know the reasoning for it. I’ve only been told by those who have allegedly attempted to present him or been in the circle that has attempted to present him with certain intelligence that they said he doesn’t want it, or he won’t read it in some instances.”