Uggghhh....why did they have to make the Elites sound Japanese? Why not have them speak Turkish or something?
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJfo7IDBznk]I mean imagine hearing this in that deep growly voice.[/url]
It would sound a helluva lot cooler than Japanese that's for damn sure.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I Em I Raptor
My complaint is how they changed the Assault Carrier. It was one of the coolest, largest, most powerful vessels in Halo's story and 343 butchered it. They literally sliced like 3 kilometers off it it.
It now looks straight retarded. The front end is massive and the back is like a little stubble compared to the rest of it.
Surely none of you can be happy with this, right?[/quote]
Lol it looks like a sperm cell.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xd00999
Not really mind blowing. However, the first Elite we saw looked like he had a huge head, was it weird perspective or something?[/quote]
Yes. Same with the apparently warped perspective of the Assault Carrier.
[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lobster Fish 2
Elites voices sound very stereotypical film-type Japanese. Regardless, more Halo 4 stuff never hurts.[/quote]
What like fake Japanese? That's good I suppose, since it's not supposed to be Japanese.
[Edited on 10.09.2012 6:07 PM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quantam
[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I Em I Raptor
[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BROWN HAWK
Is everything just no longer canon or something?[/quote]
I know, right? 343 is just silly. They translate "artistic liberty" into "screw the rest of the story."[/quote]
Not really. This has existed for years IIRC, but the wort wort wort and blargh elites still exist.
In fact, I believe this was first seen in Halo Legends, where we got our first proper look at Elite language, aside from the wort wort wort and blargh things in earlier games.
I.E, nothing has changed.[/quote]
Their language doesn't bother me, it's just how they change everything else. I dunno...Just because they're in control doesn't mean they have to "start over". They had a good thing already, why ruin it?[/quote]
In that terminal, what changed? I assumed the usual complainers were just complaining about everything like complainers often do, but too many people are complaining about a change that I don't even see.
[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quantam
You guys are wasting time arguing over the Elite armor (which has changed but I don't mind it), the Elite language (same as Legends) and the ships (I don't see any major change whatsoever, still looks badass).
You missed the biggest retcon: they retconned the Forward Unto Dawn completely, 100%.
Most of the changes in armor/weapons/ships etc in the game have been quite trivial so far, but this one has changed the design completely, it looks like a Cruiser.[/quote]
They changed it so it works as a campaign level.[/quote]
250m of Charon class frigate is more than enough for a Campaign level, due to the different vertical aspects.[/quote]
The internal layout, however, wouldn't, especially seeing as it was the back half, which is basically just one huge storage and loading bay and engineering hall ways. It at least wouldn't be very exciting.

Are people surprised that the elites sound Japanese?
343i was behind Halo Legends, and there was this one -blam!- episode where you saw the Elite's home planet. It looked like Japan, and they were basically samurai. It isn't surprising to see Japanese elites.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I Em I Raptor
On second thought, you're right. I wouldn't be surprised if I'm wrong though. We never directly see the aft section of the ship.[/quote]
It's fine, perspective is rather weird in Halo games. Have you seen the FuD campaign mission pics? The cruisers look tiny.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I Em I Raptor
[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BROWN HAWK
Is everything just no longer canon or something?[/quote]
I know, right? 343 is just silly. They translate "artistic liberty" into "screw the rest of the story."[/quote]
Not really. This has existed for years IIRC, but the wort wort wort and blargh elites still exist.
In fact, I believe this was first seen in Halo Legends, where we got our first proper look at Elite language, aside from the wort wort wort and blargh things in earlier games.
I.E, nothing has changed.[/quote]
Their language doesn't bother me, it's just how they change everything else. I dunno...Just because they're in control doesn't mean they have to "start over". They had a good thing already, why ruin it?[/quote]
In that terminal, what changed? I assumed the usual complainers were just complaining about everything like complainers often do, but too many people are complaining about a change that I don't even see.
[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quantam
You guys are wasting time arguing over the Elite armor (which has changed but I don't mind it), the Elite language (same as Legends) and the ships (I don't see any major change whatsoever, still looks badass).
You missed the biggest retcon: they retconned the Forward Unto Dawn completely, 100%.
Most of the changes in armor/weapons/ships etc in the game have been quite trivial so far, but this one has changed the design completely, it looks like a Cruiser.[/quote]
They changed it so it works as a campaign level.[/quote]
250m of Charon class frigate is more than enough for a Campaign level, due to the different vertical aspects.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I Em I Raptor
They shortened the aft section of the vessel. Judging by the glow of the energy reactors on the back, its entirely too short. That glow should be [i]way[/i] back.[/quote]
Are you seriously arguing that such perceptions have actually equalled a retcon?
How about actually understanding the concept of perspective and art style before stating others don't know what they are talking about?
NOTHING major has changed.
Keyword: Perspective
[Edited on 10.09.2012 5:30 PM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I Em I Raptor
[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quantam
But the ships and the language is still the same IIRC.[/quote]
Those who know nothing of what they speak shouldn't speak.
[url=http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100918221059/halo/images/c/c3/Overview_-_Covenant_Assault_Carrier.png]Old[/url]
[url=http://oi49.tinypic.com/2mwfoo.jpg]New[/url][/quote]
Mind explaining the changes? The ship shape is still the same, just a different colour compared to the Shadow of Intent.
[Edited on 10.09.2012 5:26 PM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quantam
But the ships and the language is still the same IIRC.[/quote]
Those who know nothing of what they speak shouldn't speak.
[url=http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100918221059/halo/images/c/c3/Overview_-_Covenant_Assault_Carrier.png]Old[/url]
[url=http://oi49.tinypic.com/2mwfoo.jpg]New[/url]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Monkeybarsixx
[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quantam
[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I Em I Raptor
[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BROWN HAWK
Is everything just no longer canon or something?[/quote]
I know, right? 343 is just silly. They translate "artistic liberty" into "screw the rest of the story."[/quote]
Not really. This has existed for years IIRC, but the wort wort wort and blargh elites still exist.
In fact, I believe this was first seen in Halo Legends, where we got our first proper look at Elite language, aside from the wort wort wort and blargh things in earlier games.
I.E, nothing has changed.[/quote]
Their language doesn't bother me, it's just how they change everything else. I dunno...Just because they're in control doesn't mean they have to "start over". They had a good thing already, why ruin it?[/quote]
In that terminal, what changed? I assumed the usual complainers were just complaining about everything like complainers often do, but too many people are complaining about a change that I don't even see.
[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quantam
You guys are wasting time arguing over the Elite armor (which has changed but I don't mind it), the Elite language (same as Legends) and the ships (I don't see any major change whatsoever, still looks badass).
You missed the biggest retcon: they retconned the Forward Unto Dawn completely, 100%.
Most of the changes in armor/weapons/ships etc in the game have been quite trivial so far, but this one has changed the design completely, it looks like a Cruiser.[/quote]
They changed it so it works as a campaign level.
[Edited on 10.09.2012 5:23 PM PDT]

You guys are wasting time arguing over the Elite armor (which has changed but I don't mind it), the Elite language (same as Legends) and the ships (I don't see any major change whatsoever, still looks badass).
You missed the biggest retcon: they retconned the Forward Unto Dawn completely, 100%.
Most of the changes in armor/weapons/ships etc in the game have been quite trivial so far, but this one has changed the design completely, it looks like a Cruiser.
[Edited on 10.09.2012 5:23 PM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BROWN HAWK
[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quantam
[/quote]I can understand that they're exploring new things, but some changes are just unnecessary. Mostly I'm talking about appearances of characters or vehicles.
I don't mind Chief's new armor, but the Elites look quite different.[/quote]
I'm not arguing about the other changes. But the ships and the language is still the same IIRC.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I Em I Raptor
My complaint is how they changed the Assault Carrier. It was one of the coolest, largest, most powerful vessels in Halo's story and 343 butchered it. They literally sliced like 3 kilometers off it it.
It now looks straight retarded. The front end is massive and the back is like a little stubble compared to the rest of it.
Surely none of you can be happy with this, right?[/quote]
I'll have another look but it doesn't look like anything major has changed.
I believe we saw two different types of ships in that Terminal, the CCS Class Battlecruiser and the Assault Carrier.
The Assault Carrier looks almost exactly the same from what I can see, while there are a few smaller modifications of the Battlecruiser.