I believe there was a lot more to the Watkins story than was let on last season. Besides the suspension in beginning of season, his lackluster play, and even that one week he was ruled out with a "stomach virus" for Saturday when it was only Tuesday of that week.

Something was up last year. Not sure what though.

I totally agree, there is something we don't know about what went on with him.

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The "stomach virus" was actually from the physical beating he took while matched up with Xavier Rhodes and Tyler Hunter according to a lot of Clemson fans. I think if he gets back to form he'll go ahead of Lee in the Draft next Spring due to his size and speed.

Lee is listed as 6'1'' 195 and Watkins at 6'1'' 200. Not a very big difference in size.

Lee is listed as 6'1'' 195 and Watkins at 6'1'' 200. Not a very big difference in size.

Most sites have him listed at 6' including wiki, nfldraftscout, sbnation, cbs sports and this site. I also read that as a high school player who was under 6 feet, he could dunk and 11 foot rim.

__________________Kaepernick is this years pat white. Thin, gimmick offense and doesn't possess an nfl arm. The ncaa constantly regurgitates clones of past players and amazingly enough, tricks some people into thinking they're better than their cloned half. Kaepernick was a complete waste of a senior bowl qb spot. A better qb will come from the east/west shrine or whatever they're calling it now...count on it

Personally I don't think Lee is an elite prospect. I wouldn't take him top 5 like he's being projected. Just because I think he's limited with what he can do, mainly because of the size/speed combination. The Jennings comparison is a decent one (although I think Lee has the potential to be better). Jennings is a great route runner, very good after the catch and can stretch the field vertically. They're both easily capable of being a #1 receiver, but they're not elite prospects/players.

A.J. and Julio are on the same level. Both were ELITE talents coming out. I agree that he will probably be rated closer to Dez coming out. Dez is also an elite talent but he's a bit of a ratard. Marqise isn't the all-around player that those guys are but he's a gamebreaker and will instantly be a #1 receiver the day he steps on the field in the NFL.

yeah right. AJ was supposed to be the safest thing ever and julio several notches below him.

I loved Julio...defended him tirelessly in some of these threads, but he was hardly looked at as a sure thing

Okay, well you have no proof of that and nothing to back it up, so....

Of course I don't have proof of that. No one has proof of where teams had players ranked. Not earth shattering news. But common sense says that 32 teams did not have candidates that were so closing ranked all ranked in the same order.

__________________Kaepernick is this years pat white. Thin, gimmick offense and doesn't possess an nfl arm. The ncaa constantly regurgitates clones of past players and amazingly enough, tricks some people into thinking they're better than their cloned half. Kaepernick was a complete waste of a senior bowl qb spot. A better qb will come from the east/west shrine or whatever they're calling it now...count on it

No offense, but none of that is valid. Did you look at the date of those posts? This is before we had measurables on either.

__________________Kaepernick is this years pat white. Thin, gimmick offense and doesn't possess an nfl arm. The ncaa constantly regurgitates clones of past players and amazingly enough, tricks some people into thinking they're better than their cloned half. Kaepernick was a complete waste of a senior bowl qb spot. A better qb will come from the east/west shrine or whatever they're calling it now...count on it

Yeah, right now based on what we know, Marquise is firmly behind prospects like Jones and Green. He's also the player I want my Raiders to draft aside from Clowney.

__________________Kaepernick is this years pat white. Thin, gimmick offense and doesn't possess an nfl arm. The ncaa constantly regurgitates clones of past players and amazingly enough, tricks some people into thinking they're better than their cloned half. Kaepernick was a complete waste of a senior bowl qb spot. A better qb will come from the east/west shrine or whatever they're calling it now...count on it