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Kynt and Vyxsin (Season 12) - GoodRon and Christina (Season 12) - GoodAmanda and Kris (Season 14) - Fantastic!Kisha and Jen (Season 14) - Annoying but OKJaime and Cara (Season 14) - Something for DweezeMargie and Luke (Season 14) - OKMel and Mike (Season 14) - Sorry good the first time, not sure about a retreadSteve and Linda (Season 14) - Well at least we know who will be going out first.Flight Time and Big Easy (Season 15) - Sigh I know I was the only person who didn't like themZev and Justin (Season 15) - Fair Enough, don't lose anything this timeJet and Cord (Season 16) - Good racers, not sure I wanted them back thoughGary and Mallory (Season 17) -

*sigh* I could toss a lot of this list out (windows preferred) on the annoyance factor. Ron & Christina & Ron's Endless Run-on Sentences? Gone. Kisha & Jen & Bladder Issues To Go? Goodbye. Jamie & Cara & '911? We may be in last place!' Do let the door hit you on the way out. Marge & Luke? Fine until they hit the first problem and then watch the fun spread. Flight Time & Big Easy & Their Special Friend Franz? Go. Away. Jet & Cord? Sorry, we know what you are now, and the stink is contaminating the entire course.

Kynt & Vyxsin? All right, fine -- but my preference would be for Vyxsin to work with a new partner: I remember why we called the current one Kant. Amanda & Kris could arguably use a second chance. Mel & Mike were just fun. Zev & Justin might be interesting on another run. Gary's no All-Star and neither is Mallory, but neither one particularly annoys me.

Steve & Linda... um...

...really?

I do see one common factor here, though: pretty much every team in the field made A Mistake. One major error which knocked them out of the race and sent them to the final mat to act as low-paid cheerleaders -- across the board. This isn't All-Stars, this is Second Chances. Given that, I'm predicting the Switchback's about to manifest -- possibly in bulk.

Kynt and Vyxsin (Season 12) - I liked them in their season.Ron and Christina (Season 12) - I always wanted them back! I'm rooting for them!Amanda and Kris (Season 14) - OK. They deserve a second chance.Kisha and Jen (Season 14) - Hope they overcome their rivarly with Margie & Luke.Jaime and Cara (Season 14) - Hope they're better with directions this time!Margie and Luke (Season 14) - OK for me.Mel and Mike (Season 14) - Not my favorite team but I'm happy to see them back.Steve and Linda (Season 14) - I agree, if they're in we all know they're going first.Flight Time and Big Easy (Season 15) - At least I'll love hearing the Globetrotters theme music.Zev and Justin (Season 15) - As someone who has Asperger's Syndrome, I'm rooting for this team!Jet and Cord (Season 16) - I like them OK as well but not my favorite team.Gary and Mallory (Season 17) - nice to see them back as well.

I'm just speculating so this is not a spoiler but does this cast suggest that Nat & Kat or Brook & Claire win this season? I would have thought one of them would be asked back ('specially Brook & Claire) over the dull Gary & Mallory unless they win.

Not sure about that. Right now, I'm not sure I can see any of the four finalists being willing to subject themselves to another grind so soon after leaving the show with the difficulties of the past couple of episodes (Jill/Thomas might be the most 'willing' of the four teams if I had to rank them). Gary and Mallory have had a little extra time to veg out and they likely would be the most willing to do it all over again, especially with Mallory's gung-ho attitude.

I think there's a good bet that we're seeing an all-female winner this year for the first time, but don't think it's the reason why we wouldn't see either Nat/Kat or Brook/Claire in the all-star season as whoever doesn't win would be available to go in a second-chance season.

Just complete speculation pulled out of my heiney, so take it for what it's worth.

As for the question why Season 13 got "ignored" ... I'm surprised that Toni/Dallas isn't back, as I would think they'd be eager to want a second chance after losing the passport and all. I'd bet they were asked back, but declined.

Good points but it also seems they didn't feel any need to cast extra all female teams for 18 - they way they had four female teams and no alpha male teams this years. Kisha & Jen and Jamie & Cara are facing three alpha male teams while the Poker chicks weren't invited back.

On 11/24, the teams went to Broken Hill (New South Wales, Australia) via two chartered planes (bunch point!). Upon landing, they were 'picked up' by several four-wheel drive vehicles (locals at the wheel?). They eventually wound up at the Junction Mine.

Not sure why we don't post spoilers here, it just seems to have happened that way, however as this is a spoiler forum I don't think there would be a problem with you posting anything you have.

My personal issue with spoilers is that I am a sucker for the editing, and quite enjoy watching the show knowing very little and adore seeing the race to the line without knowing who is going to be Philiminated, however that is just me.

I have never tried to spoil TAR or looked for spoilers on it all these seasons, as I too like having some suspense on one show. This season I decided I would play the TAR fantasy game for the first time, and there's no point playing if you're not on a level field with everyone, which means reading spoilers, so I took a look at this forum.

I was surprised not to find spoilers in the spoiler forum ... not sure what its purpose is then. But not being a regular here, I won't post anything. I don't know anything beyond what's on RFF.

As far as I can remember there has been very little spoiling done in this forum. I think RFF has cornered the market on spoiling TAR and we all go there when we want to know something.

Many seasons ago I posted the CBS clues a few times and didn't get much response so I stopped doing it. I don't think there's any reason why you couldn't start a spoiler thread, it's just people rarely do. There have been occasional spoiler/F3/editing threads but recently it has pretty much just been voting, East Coast Spoiler Thread and announcing the cast discussions.

Just saw the preview this evening. Is it quite possible TAR 18 starts off with more than 11 teams, but only 11 teams continue?

There were so many teams shown with "unfinished business". I specifically saw Toni/Dallas, Dan/Andrew, the poker players, and Michael/Kevin. These teams could have been screened out right from the start?

I saw that, too. Seems like it's just a teaser until an official list is announced. I know Connor & Jonathan can't be on it as Jonathan has been in rehearsals for his Broadway show since October and they were a team revealed in the preview.

>I saw that, too. Seems like >it's just a teaser until >an official list is announced. >I know Connor & Jonathan >can't be on it as >Jonathan has been in rehearsals >for his Broadway show since >October and they were a >team revealed in the preview.

That's what Im' thinking too...They showed a lot more teams than should be in the race. And, none of the spoiler lists include Brooke and Claire or Michael and Kevin who were featured in the teaser footage.

Amanda & Kris, Ron & Christina and Steve & Linda were not seen at all but Toni & Dallas, the Poker Ladies and Dan & Andrew were. Personally, I'd rather see Toni & Dallas or the Poker Ladies back over either Ron & Christina or Steve & Linda.

Yes, perhaps the spoilers are wrong for the list of competing teams. From the last season there were several shots of Brook and Claire, Nick and Vick, Conner and Jonathon, and Michael and Kevin....in addition to Gary and Mallory.

I'm hoping there will be more than one team from this last season....a fun group, imo!

"In addition to Australia, the Race's course -- which covered five continents, 23 cities, and 40,000 miles -- also included stops in Liechtenstein, where the teams had to measure the length of the entire 62-square-mile small European country while riding motorized bicycles; and Tokyo, Japan, where they had to endure the freezing waters from Mount Fuji during a spiritual ritual."

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