Fuck OP DD thread. I started a strider because I want to be a magic archer but my bow is doing SHIT ALL damage Should I just rush to Gran Soren to switch to mage for now? And If I go down that well and I going to get my ass handed to me like I did at that bandit house?

>>324160338>Talk to NPCs>They have the most boring and pointless dialogues>Skip every single dialogue>Get 50 quests >Open quest menu and read what they are>"Kill 10 wolves">"Kill 7 spiders">Escort NPC from point A to B">"Kill 10 bandits">"Go pick me up that item and come back" >Realize I'm playing some garbage korean MMO>Uninstall>Refund

>>324160760>No fast travel eitherfalse, there's a very nice fast travel system in place, but I guess the bandits after the encampment killed you and you gave up.

>>324160842Except the game never asks you to kill those enemies again, yeah it's a bunch of quests to waste you time, but they aren't repetitive, and if properly planned can be accomplished while doing the main quests. The escort missions are so you'd visit those places, and if carefully planned can be combined with main story quests, and are just free experience.

I didn't buy the game, but it's pretty good. You need to give it some time and patience though.

>>324161448>play game>expect any sort of challenge in the first 5 hours

how entitled.

Honestly the game is a fucking bore. I attacked some cyclops early on, and despite being seemingly too low level to beat him (since I did completely shit damage, even when stabbing/shooting him in the eye) I managed to beat him easily without having any sort of strategy in mind. The game is so mindless

it's sad to see so many people who can't appreciate dragon's dogma, it's like the console release all over again>wtf why isn't there any fast travel?>dude this fucking bandit just 2 shot me what the hell>wow pawn ai is shit, all they did is just follow me and don't do anything>it's been 2 hours and I haven't fought a single dragon. I thought this was supposed to be better than skyrim.

>>324160515Sage just allows you to post without bumping the thread. This isn't reddit you POS teen crossposter. While I think OP is a retard that should have looked into the gameplay before buying it, I'm bumping just to spite you.

hey so i re-installed the game today and now steam doesnt add my saved file that i played yesterday. So am i fucked or is there a way to get them back? put to many hours in this shit to redo all this crap again.

>>324164253It's a cheap trick to make an attack feel powerful, just like screenshake. I don't need hitstop when my attacks are all knocking enemies on their asses and up into the air. If you like it that's fine, but there are better ways to make attacks feel powerful.

>>324160338>go outside the first village into the woods at night>WOLF RAID>easy kill like 5 wolves, think the wolf pack was a decently cool feature>walk 3 meters>another 5 wolves, well okay i guess that pack was larger>walk another 5 metres, 5 wolves again, ok, whatever i just kill them.>walk another 5 metres, 5 wolves again... they are really pushing it with the wolves.>repeat atleast 20 further times until you get to the witch hut

That shit was tedious, i dont think its fun smashing the same cluster of mobs 20 times in a row.

>>324164649Possible but unlikely. Depending on how many talented people care you can expect some model swaps for existing armors, reskins, etc. Entirely new stuff? Wouldn't count on it but stranger things have happened.

The first few hours of the game are honestly complete garbage, a lot of anons are pretty experienced with the game so they've forgotten just how awful the beginning is when you've got no clue what to do.

Try powering through up to the main city, then see if you're enjoying the experience at all whilst doing the "Wyrm Hunt" questline.

>>324164794Because the people hyping it up are the people for whom the game appealed greatly to. Every other 500 post DD hype thread there were one or two people saying "guys I played it and it's cool but it's not the second coming, you're going to be disappointed if you expect that", but people ignored them.

>>324164876>The first few hours of the game are honestly complete garbageSo like Dark Souls, Stalker, The Witcher, Morrowind and pretty much every single game that /v/ likes because reasons?I accept this challenge, good sir, /v/ has never failed me, and these games amused the fuck out of me.

>>324165129That was his point. When told that hitstop is a cheap effect for affect a sense of powerful attacks he went with the shitposting retard technique of acting like the game can only be compared to the witcher, skyrim, or dark souls.

>>324165213>I don't get why retards buy RPGs and complain that they aren't raping everything in the first hour even though they have no skills and shitty equipment.because games like skyrim convinced people you can play rpg games like first person shooters, where stats do not actually matter but just how retardely huge\big\cool\edgy the weapon isedgier = more powerfulthanks, b-bethesda

>>324164794>believing hypeI don't understand how retarded people are. Name one game you've gotten incredibly hyped for that not only matched or exceeded your hype, but has sustaining power. I'm sure there are a few, but probably not many at all.

Now think of all the games you played with little to no expectations that blew you away.

It's almost as if getting hyped about something without any sort of grounded information on what to expect is going to result in disappointment no matter what the game is.

>>324165071>mfw you have to rationalize your dislike of a game by saying it's for casuals>mfw you're too stupid to realize calling people causal on /v/ is satirical >mfw you bought into it like a fuccboi

>>324165615Cut lizard tails, always bring curatives, uh...I dunno. Do some other quests first? I'm not trying to imply you're a baddie but every encounter thus far has been totally trivial for me and for most of them I only had my own pawn + default starter pawn Rook. The only thing that's given me an ounce of trouble has been the first escort quest, and that's because you can't directly heal allies by going into the menu and using curative items, and if you're not a mage yourself then you have to rely on pawns to heal the useless escort NPC.

>>324160937undertale is 97%, life is strange is 96%, portal 2 is 99%, plants vs zombies is 98%, Shower With Your Dad Simulator 2015: Do You Still Shower With Your Dad is 97%... I think you get the point.

>>324165819I'm not that guy and I don't want to get into it with you over whether the game is good or not, but I'm about eight hours in so far and the game definitely seems casual as fuck. I could've played hard mode, and perhaps I should've, but I'm hoping it picks up. I haven't played the whole game so it would be stupid of me to try to say the entire thing is casual, but the beginning definitely gives off that vibe. The game doesn't have to fuck me in the ass from the get go but I expected to have died at least once by now.

>>324165615This took me a bit to figure out but you have to go to a guy who will sell you different special attacks and passive abilities. You use the special moves/attacks to fight properly. Now I'm a dante-like whirlwind of death.

>>324166021Since you have the mob locations memorized I'm assuming you're a vet of the game, but I don't think he exaggerated the amount of wolves that much. Going out at night from Cassardis to Gran Soren felt like fighting wolves every ten steps. If you go from Cassardis to the Witch Hut there are a ton as well. Maybe not DROVES AND DROVES of wolves, but since they provide no challenge and sometimes have a tendency to draw out fights but running around, yeah, it feels like a giant wolf-flavored waste of time.

>>324166795TERA is the only MMO I've played that had similar combat. The thing is, at least in MMORPGs you have other people to play with. An offline game with MMORPG gameplay doesn't make any goddamn sense, which is exactly what DD is.

I keep dying on the part where you go in a dungeon type place under the big city. It spirals down and then there are snakes that spawn on the bottom.

On my 1st attempt I got to the giant before the snake spawns and having a close fight. I climbed his back and was barely hanging on and the mother fucker falls off and kills himself and i survived the fall. I was so happy. Then I go to that thing in the middle and the snakes spawn. No problem so far, but whre are my pawns? OHHhh they are busy running all the way back up for some reason fighting every mob i skipped while all these god damn snakes are attacking too.

I keep trying to do the place over and over but I keep dying. My sword does fuck all against monsters unless my mage enchants it which only seems to happen when theres 1 mob left.

Pawns learn from your actions right? So if I'm playing as a sorcerer and turn my pawn into a fighter, will he be an absolute coward? I know inclinations matter a lot, but aside from those, would me playing as a "sit in the back and kill enemies from a distance" kind of a character hamper my "i'm gonna be in the smack-dab middle of things and draw everybody's attention" pawn 'behavior development'?

>>324167395Go to /vg/ generalRead up on pawn inclinationsNow you know how to hire a mage that isn't complete fucking dogshit

You don't have to fight the ogre/troll whatever it isYou don't have to fight the snakesActivate snakesThen run outQuest completeYeah the game doesn't really tell you, but it should be obvious because they never fucking stop spawning and they kick your ass

I hope you're not missing precious side-quests, some get locked out as you progress story

>>324165205Well it looks exactly like the witches house from berserk, where guts nabs the berserker armor from the dying old coot and proceeds to fight the dragon man-person-demonIt's probably intentional

>that feel when no dad who comes to you and says "son, I noticed you've been playing Witcher 3, a game with mindless, mediocre, Asscreed-style combat. I have a gift for you that'll lead you back to the light of satisfying MonHunter-esque gameplay: it's called Dragon Dogma."

>"I want you to play this game because I love you son. I'd never want you to become a filthy peasant who enjoys Witcher 3's Asscreed combat."

>>324161065I think it's hilarious how /v/ complains about how casual and lame games are nowadays, and a game comes along that is super fun, but has a few flaws they get all butt hurt and start complaining.

This game is not perfect, no game is. It has more flaws than other games in its genre. The story is stupid, the world is generic, the graphcis arent that great.

But the gameplay is so kinetic and awesome. so much shit happens and the abilities are so smoothly exectuted, it's great.

>>324169548I'm enjoying my time with the game thus far but your post is just immature fan butthurt. Whining about the first ten hours of a game that is known to be a slow starter is just as stupid as saying anyone who can't appreciate the game is under twelve.

>>324169759I wonder if it's just one pathetic person saying this over and over or if /v/ is legitimately so full of retards that a new one can wander into the thread every five minutes to chip in his repetitive korean mmo shitpost.

>prep Razer™ keyboard and Madcatz™ mouse>start game>create character>pick fighter vocation because that's what the hero is supposed to be>only have two moves, one for sword and one for shield>what the fuck>visit the quest board at the inn and see "kill 5 rabbits" quest>what the hell, I don't want to bring 5 rabbits back to the inn>ignore sidequests and meet Rook>decide to progress with the story>Rook says something about the roads being safer so I don't wander off the beaten path>see some goblins anyways>woooooow>fight them>I don't even die once>holy shit this game is easy>save this guy's life, skip through all his dialogue since I'm already bored at this point>in the end all he gives me is a shitty cape>proceed to the encampment>skip it because I was just at a settlement and I don't need to restock/buy anything>find bandits>die to artificial difficulty spike bullshit>respawn outside of Cassardis because game didn't autosave for whatever reason>try to run past enemies and go north until I can find a bigger town to find some real quests in>everything instakills me, not even fair>eventually find a gate that blocks all further progress>party is too small, no idea how to get 2 more pawns>no quests to be found>no towns or cities either>haven't learned ANY new skills>no idea how wolves hunt>no idea what goblins are weak to>no idea as to which weapons are masterworks in case I go wrong

>uninstall and refund

0/10 shit game thanks /v/ you lied to me, I always knew you console peasants had awful taste

>Doing an escort quest>Getting ambushed a shit ton, a lot of fighting>About halfway through the trail>Get ambushed by a cyclops, bandits, and wolves all at the same time>Dumb escort NPC dies in the process>We still win the battle after doing shit damage and taking forever>Decide to head back to the main city>Fight a huge group of bandits>One bandit left>He kills me>Load latest save>Back to the beginning of the escort quest

Literally just lost over an hour of game play. I would manually save but you can only "save an exit" so that shit is tedious, does this game not auto save that often? Also do I have to make my pawn a heal slave just to force heals on NPCs?

>>324170870>forgot to do Lost and found>it fails after that thing in the gran soren undergrounds>no way to avoid the npc talking to you and you can't go back>probably fucked up a whole questlinei fucking hate this game

>PSX buttons for DDDAhttp://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma/mods/15/?http://a.pomf.cat/ylgajz.rar>(merged with INTO FREE as well) http://a.pomf.cat/moqkka.rar

>GUIDE ON TEXTURE MODDINGhttp://pastebin.com/LTRvWux4

>Into Free Theme Songhttp://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma/mods/8/?>GUIDE TO SWAP ANY BGM IN THE GAMEhttp://pastebin.com/hTBxweH8

>Objectively the best Reshade NAhttp://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma/mods/13/?ENB is still buggy so don't use it yet.

>Save game editing/transferring(even from console DA)http://steamcommunity.com/app/367500/discussions/8/451850849187495873/+http://www.360haven.com/forums/threads/14213-Dragon-s-Dogma-Modding-Full-Save-Editing

>Cheat Engine scriptshttp://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=586957&sid=1c9824f6198512a62484447b9a1f7432Rather than cheating, a lot of the scripts can be used to enhance the gameplay and can really extend your playtime. A rundown:>Share weapon skills between classes>Real time of day>Cinematic time slow>REMOVE SCATHER inclination editing

The only issue i had with this games is that the difficulty quickly becomes marginal. They through the Everfall dungeon at you only a few hours into the game, and let me tell you, that was a challenge, especially when I got to the end and had to run from the tentacles while trying to grab the last of the treasure I had forgotten. If the game had stayed at that level of difficulty throughout, It'd be perfect. Instead, once you beat Grigori, everything become pretty easy to kill, even end game monsters. Though I never did play BBI, hopefully that's an improvement.

this game was 7/10 everywhere for a reason don't fall for retarded /v/ memes telling you that something is bashed for framerate alone and that 7 is way too fucking high anyway I've seen decent, enjoyable 7/10 games this one is 5 at best critics are too soft nowadays

>Not a single hint at where to find a certain item you need to upgrade item>Even if you found the item before, you have no idea where it came from half the time because pawns always picking up random shit during battle>No item log>Expects you to be a fag and look it up online

>Shitty magic and warrior classes that take insane amounts of time doing nothing but channeling skills. >Pawn AI still pants-on-head retarded, jumping in to the ocean due to piss poor pathfinding. >Main game combat suffers drastically due to dungeons being poorly designed and fights often being relegated to open empty fields until you hit BBI, shitting on an otherwise great combat system.>Game starts with a welcome initial hump of difficulty that is quickly overcome, leaving you with a Skyrim-tier experience as you obliterate practically everything until shit like living armors and certain everfall enemies. >The Fat Jew somehow ended up as my spouse even though I never gave him any gifts or acted favorably towards him.>Story is 2deep4u, and shits the bed in the final act. >Duke is a still an asshole.

>>324175249>Now where the fuck would you get that?Kill rabbits.>Why doens't the game tell me where to find ores? i have this pickaxe, but nah... I'm not here to think about things. Mine from deposits, you'll need that pickaxe.

>>324175328Dogma of the Dragon, some sort of belief relating to the dragon.

It doesn't matter what it means or if it means anything at all really. It sounds cool and I really appreciate the Japanese' ability to come up with cool-sounding names for their games, even if they don't always make sense or aren't grammatically correct.

>Cassardite sounds like a mineral of some kind, I wonder if I can mine it?>I glowing talisman? I wonder if a salesman who sells magical items might have something like that...>A plant? The woods might be a good starting point>"Waterfall" huh? I might try some place with a lot of water...>There are lots of monters in this game. I bet at least ONE of them will drop a claw.

Everytime I saw a webm of a warrior it was always Arc of Obliteration, and you basically just saw the aftermath of enemies exploding everywhere. I had no idea it tool a solid 10 seconds to charge. Switched to assassin and been having way more fun.

>>324176201Yes, the pawn will actually learn from you and start to mimic your actions. I've been spending the first part of the game teaching my fighter pawn to not be a shitter. Now he perfect blocks, combos the fuck out of bitches, and grapples the strong guys so the rest of the party can fuck them up.

>>324160637he's not saying otherwise, but you've got to be an extreme retard to not know that before buying it. but i guess you're a pc-only guy so this is the first game like this you've ever played. anyway, i don't like dd that much myself, but i hope it doesn't turn out like dark souls and the pc players for some reason ruin the community. but i guess it was the marketing too.

>but you told me combat was amazingThis game has a good combat for an RPG. Combat is not the most important thing in this genre so the fact that it's not complete shit like in, say, Witcher 3, is an achievement.

>>324176923I love DD but the world is more empty than Skyrims. But I think it makes up for it by having generally better design. And if you happen upon an ogre you become eager to fight it since combat is actually fun in this game. No one enjoys the combat in Skyrim.

You know, if Skyrim had the exact same gameplay that DD had it would probably be my favorite game ever.

>>324177526Because it's probably the only modern action RPG with decent combat. For me I love fighting in it and the excellent character customization (this includes armor more than creation), exploring this game is a joy to me. I'm fully aware of the flaws, but they don't stand in the way of my enjoyment of the game. And let's be real, the people shitting on the game are often a lot more hostile than the ones defending it.

I just hope it somehow gets a proper sequel fixing most of the stuff the first game didn't do so well.

>>324177960No matter what way you choose to interpret it, the only thing you can ever be sure of is that it's not for you. You know this though, as you've said, yet here you are. Now you just gotta figure out why you're even in this thread.

>great combat>great designs>lots of customization and loot>can get pretty difficult and doesn't hold your hand>many unique aspects that isn't copypasted from other popular games>setting and story is interesting>many classes that play very differently

>>324177885It's funny how Souls became so big but a lot of people have a problem with this game's combat. I'm not arguing with you, this is pretty random, but it's an interesting thing. DD has two basic combos for light attacks and one combo for strong, and you can mix it up with two aerial attacks. And then you have the weapon skills in addition to that. There's a lot of variety in this combat if you are actually trying. I personally love souls but the combat is basic as fuck, it's literally light/heavy attack combat.

Also if you drop an RPG or something after like 30min you're flat out retarded. Especially when your reason is something moronic like "the combat wasn't great!" when the game hasn't even opened up yet.Heck I bet you didn't even get to Gran Soren before you quit.

Yoru shit attention-span and shit for brains is no one's problem but yours. Fuck off baby, no one cares about you crying that you think people "lied" to you when people said they really enjoyed a game and you didn't even do any fucking research on it yourself.

>unlocked new mage support skills, reclassed my pawn as tank / brawler, found some neat damage dealing online pawns>ALRIGHT LET'S DO THIS SHIT>ONLY LEVEL 25 BUT WHATEVER LET'S DO THIS DLC DUNGEON THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SO HARD

>bunch of wolves and goblins>kill them

>then out of fucking nowhere the literal grim reaper appears>kills my party within seconds>barely make it out alive

>>324178709It's a matter of tastes, like everything else in life. Can you explain why you like one type of a girl over another? The explanation would only make sense to you (and anyone else with similar tastes).

>>324178912This is /v/ though, I'm sure many of these people are people who played it on consoles originally and didn't like it. Because if you pretend the game didn't receive a lot of shit back then you are delusional.

>>324179097You specifically said you finished the game.That means you obviously enjoyed it, correct?

Or did you really play a game you didn't find any redeeming qualities?

As I said, stop shitposting. It's clear as day you only pretend to have played and beaten it to try and make yourself sound more credible, but it's obvious you haven't.So if someone starts out by lying then why on earth should I care about some attentionwhore?

>>324179019That has nothing to do with the combat mechanics though which was what I was talking about. DDs pacing isn't great but then again it tries to be an open world game. Souls is closer to Metroid than, for example, Skyrim, in terms of game design.

Also, bosses don't take forever in DD unless you're Shit at the game which is a good thing imo.

>>324178740>If quit the game because it isn't fun after 3 hours than your an autstic shitstain>If you played through it can't be that bad, eh?I've argued with retards like you too often to give a shit a this point. Maybe I try another class if I can force myself to slog through that prolouge and the shitty Chimera fight.

>>324179512Dragons and chimeras are existing designs, and may be generic because of that, but that doesn't mean you can enjoy the way they were designed for this game. And people tend to like the armor designs in this game.

You sound like a baby honestly. You basically run into a room screaming WHY DO YOU GUYS ENJOY BEER I DONT UNDERSTAND PLEASE STOP ENJOYING BEER BECAUSE YOUR REASONS FOR DOING SO ARE TOTALLY NOT VALID ACCORDING TO ME

So you're mentally handicapped? Glad we don't have to waste time arguing with someone that forces himself to play games he doesn't enjoy and then even finish them when they're pretty long as well.

A sensible person with a functioning brain would stop playing. So either you're genuinely retarded or you're lying, so which is it? Can you answer this question without sperging out and going off-topic?

>>324179684Dude, it doesn't matter what I say. You don't like the game. You don't have the ability to see it from the same perspective as those who enjoy it. That's all there is to it. You can only see it as "grinding" while taking nothing more from the experience. There's a quote in the intro right when you start a new game that says (paraphrasing): "The delicious and ever-changing pleasures of doing things for no reason."

>mfw i was warning people all month that the combat is nothing but flash that revolves around literally mashing one button and the map deliberately tricks you into thinking the game is bigger than it actually isjust for future reference when you see anime faggots praising a game you should immediately know it's awful. dd is only popular with waifu faggots using it as a loli simulator

>>324162523You'll level up beyond the static levels of all the creatures in the base game and effortlessly kill everything including anything in the Everfall.

At that point the only thing that will "challenge" you are beasts in Bitterblack Isle which aren't more challenging so much as they throw a bunch of negative status effects and instakill attacks at you.

>>324179932I died once on that part. Second try taught me everything I needed to know. Jumped down far to the right to only fight 2 at a time and then saw the tail go flying off. Repeated it by slowly moving forward, only aggroing two at a time and just killing them two by two. I'm retarded and even I figured out how to handle that situation immediately. Git gud. God damn.

>>324179823I recall needing to fire and rehire them in the console version. I haven't mucked about much with specific pawns in the PC version because as of last night the rewards system was borked. Meaning, the owner of said pawn did not receive rift crystals or gifts given due to their pawn being rented.

>>324180357>Nobody's given me a reason why they love this game yet. Hilarious.

You're getting insulted because you claimed to have spent over 30 hours on a game you didn't find a single thing you enjoyed about it.You don't think this is the behaviour of a crazy person or someone mentally handicapped.

You're actually saying that you constantly play games you do not enjoy at all, for no reason and again don't think this is stupid behaviour?

Can you give me a clear answer as to why you beat this game despite not liking it at all? After all you can't think of any redeeming qualities about it.

I'm fucking loving it. Yellow classes are fun, blue classes are fun and I haven't quite gotten around to playing red ones yet but I bet they are fun as well.

My main problem with the combat so far though is not the button spammy combat against mooks. It's that I do jack shit for damage with my magic and have no reliable stun or stagger to get away from fast foes.Grand ingle for ½ of a bandits doesn't quite cut it when there are six of them and they proceed to push your shit once they have closed the distance. Charging spells in combat only feels worth it against boss monsters because of this.Meanwhile both strider and assassin can do knockdowns for days and win not by doing a ton of damage but my making sure they don't have to take damage.

So I need to ask, how do I git gud at magic and what might I be missing?

20h is if you rush through the game. Even that is a pretty long time for a game.

Playing a game you didn't like apart from "latching onto enemies and the magic" is idiotic.

Also people have already given reasons as to why they like the game for years now. What exactly are you doing here? You obviously don' agree with people that think the combat is fun and so on, so what the fuck are you doing here?

>>324181019>gets mad when reviewers don't beat a game and give it a review>gets mad when a fellow /v/irgin beats a game and gives it an objective reviewyou're not looking for objectivity though. you're looking for people to blindly support this awful game