sc0ttman, I appear to have found a bug... or the laptop in question has quirky hardware in more places than I previously knew.

On my Dell CPi laptop (300MHz PII + 128 RAM + 384 swap) a full install works (Puplite5 did not), as does the NeoMagic gfx driver (first time this has happened -- kudos!)...

But sound does not.

ALSAWizard finds a card (3 letters then 4 digit number) which I suspect is really an ISA card, but it coughs up a lung trying to make it work. I can post more info if you need it, by way of screenshots.

Could you take a look at alsaconf and see if anything might be potentially screwing up in there?

Of note, this laptop does have a lot of hardware-based quirks. The aforementioned graphics card (pre-ATi/nVIDIA domination, apparently) is one, and the fact that the HDD is almost universally recognized as, of all things, a floppy disk is another. (The fact that previously I could only make graphics work with the generic Xorg driver --NeoMagic driver didn't work-- is yet another quirk.) So this audio thing may be a "new" quirk that I didn't know about before._________________

I've no idea how the dickens to go about finding what values I need. The card I have is different, I think -- IIRC it's a cms##42. Gotta double-check that, tho.

If someone could instruct a bonehead like me on how to get the values I need, I can do the modprobe bit to make everything (hopefully) work. I can see how to construct the statement, I just don't know what to put in to "fill in the blanks" so to speak._________________

I wiped out the previous install of Puplite5 using Gparted, then laid down a ~3.5gb ext3 partition and a 384mb linux-swap partition. Note that my "hard drive" in this case is a very fast CF card of 4gb size. Not much space to play with! (But that's OK.)

Then I ran the Puppy Universal Installer and told it to do a full install to an IDE or SATA hard drive.

The great thing about CF cards in IDE adapters is that Puppy can't tell on its own that the drive in question is a "poor man's SSD" -- Puppy relies on the user to tell the truth. By selecting "IDE/SATA Hard Drive" one can take advantage of this and do a full install on what is essentially a flash drive. The catch, of course, is that you can ONLY do this with a CF card, and ONLY with a CF->IDE adapter in between the card and the computer -- if it's not natively IDE, then the process errors out with "no devices found".

...BTW the same works for microdrives, which are really nifty in their own way. They're CF-sized hard drives, usually with a CF connector (although you can get ones with a ZIF connector that are even weirder).

Er... it's probably good to go into menu.lst after the fact and add the line pmedia=ataflash... but I didn't and it works anyways.

So that's how I did that.

As for sound, the third link (ALSAwiki) looks most promising. I will try that first, and we'll see how things go._________________

I decided to test out Akita 11 to see what new things you added...
On first boot Xorgwizard detected Vesa for my video, which I had to manually change to nv... no big deal for me.

I rather like Akita, but one thing about it that bothers me is that there are so many levels in the Menu.
It would be easier to navigate if there were less sub-menus to click through. Also, you've got a lot of pets that do similiar things .. eg. a lot of timers in the Personal Section. I would rather you keep the best 1 or 2 apps ... but that is just my preference. It's your pup, so do what you think is best.

To my surprise, I stumbled across Pupizzard package builder. Was this Iguleder's program, or did you modify it? I have modified one of Iguleder's builder package, which I got from Pemasu's Exprimo thread,
and it works great from the terminal ... I just have to do a few more tweaks to it, and then I want to make a font-end gui for it. I was wondering if you are interested in testing it, and maybe helping me with the gui? I attempted to make a simple front-end, but it seems that I am stuck...my frontend calls the terminal, so that you can see it compiling (good for troubleshooting as well), but the terminal dissappears partway through.

It would be easier to navigate if there were less sub-menus to click through. Also, you've got a lot of pets that do similiar things .. eg. a lot of timers in the Personal Section. I would rather you keep the best 1 or 2 apps ... but that is just my preference. It's your pup, so do what you think is best.

it is configurable to standard puppy style in $HOME/.jwm/JWMRC depending on what mods Scot has made to my jwm_tools. Or you can tweak jwm_menu_create directly. It makes sense that you would want less menus since you also want less programs. The extra submenus are convenient with a lot of programs._________________Web Programming - Pet Packaging 100 & 101

It would be easier to navigate if there were less sub-menus to click through. Also, you've got a lot of pets that do similiar things .. eg. a lot of timers in the Personal Section.

it is configurable to standard puppy style in $HOME/.jwm/JWMRC depending on what mods Scot has made to my jwm_tools.

Funnily enough, I removed a load of stuff from Akita recently, the next one will be about 2mb smaller, I think...
I also moved some .desktop files out of /usr/share/applications...
Menu is less cluttered, fewer apps pre-installed..

And I also upgraded my JWM setup a bit, to make JWM drive icons optional,
so I also made an easy toggle JWM submenus, through a menu entry.

Tman, note that Puppizard already has a YAD GUI...
See the 'Puppizard' menu entry in screenshot above...

Yes, I was aware of Puppizard, but unfortunately, I didn't try it out until today ... I mean the one in Akita. Pemasu uploaded a different, but similiar set of tools -> here.
I was going to write all of my own build-scripts, but Iguleder's system is more efficient, so I have decided to modify his system instead. I will look at the YAD scripts and see if I can use some of the code as the frontend for my modified version.

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