yep my application is not valid because i asked a simple ???? and got abuse from WPBRJ about how aka opperates i posted aka play list with contacts and he has refused them. he did not even pm me to say so. instead he spammed far2ezze with comments refusing entry if i was first contact to the point he has resigned as a aka member. this has all been done in the name of the cla as the first post says. and i hope this highlights what is actually going on within this group. i do have 1 or 2 ??? they refused to awnser.

1)cla backed the use of babysitters signing up to games using the rule from tournements as the reason which had admin backing.

2)in the same rule no grudges should be held against any player signing up to tourneys.

3)cla (in respect of 2 members) have acted outside of rules they want inforced (meaning part of tourney rules) and rules they dont(meaning tourney rules) and since they have formally voted and allowed 1 part of tourney rules to stand all of them should. this is not pick and choose bull that certain mods have used before.

if this is allowed to continue with these 2 members carrying on as they are then .1) war privs should not be allowed for these games.2)medals should not be allowed for these games or cup win.

this all steams back to my time as a member of time and i have changed but still get victimised by certain members because of how i was. even though aka,s war threads have been very well carried forward.

eddie2 wrote:rofl i new nothing about it. until dj contacted me. if he had not i would not be involved niether would aka. just now this is all against how i have acted previously. well let me tell you 1 thing.

1)far2ezze was assigned a position in cla by peanutsdad while i was on holiday.2)aka is made up of none forum goers so dont know half the shit.3)you spammed far2 with responses instead of me which i will make sure is punishable.

Eddie, I am so glad RJ has responded so far.

I'll give him a break.

I suggest you find evidence of this 'spam'. I assume it is not tinned meat. My understanding of written spam is that it is 'unsolicited' mail. Your AKA colleague has PM'd myself and RJ many times so responses are not unsolicited.

i do have 1 or 2 ??? they refused to awnser.

Perhaps you would like to point out what these questions were. I assume they are not already answered by reading the first post?

1)cla backed the use of babysitters signing up to games using the rule from tournements as the reason which had admin backing.

I'm not sure I get the logic here. Are you saying the CLA has finished debating and agreeing a rule?

2)in the same rule no grudges should be held against any player signing up to tourneys.

You are welcome to play, just not be primary conatct as it would be inpractical for the running of the tournament.

3)cla (in respect of 2 members) have acted outside of rules they want inforced (meaning part of tourney rules) and rules they dont(meaning tourney rules) and since they have formally voted and allowed 1 part of tourney rules to stand all of them should. this is not pick and choose bull that certain mods have used before.

Sorry, struggling to follow your logic here. This tournament is a clan tournament which has its own rules. As far as I know there is no clan tournament handbook. Instead rules are approved by discussion with CDs and in response to suggestions, including at earlier stages within the CLA forum.

if this is allowed to continue with these 2 members carrying on as they are then .1) war privs should not be allowed for these games.2)medals should not be allowed for these games or cup win.

Perhaps you should submit an appication to be a CD as you seem to be highly aware of some rulle about 'manner of carrying on' being a pre-requisite to granting of privs and medals?

even though aka,s war threads have been very well carried forward.

Mitigation but this doesn't detract from issues in many other threads.

1)far2ezze was assigned a position in cla by peanutsdad while i was on holiday.

Hope you enjoyed it. Are you saying this was an untoward incident? Perhaps you should have raised it previously? I dont see how it connects to this issue?

2)aka is made up of none forum goers so dont know half the shit.

As clan leader they would hope you would inform them of the other half and conduct reasonable discussions.

It is not the fault of the tournament organisers that you are not active in the CLA eddie. We are not part of some conspiracy to have resulted in you not being in the cla and part of earlier discussions.

You were welcome to submit an entry.

Before you did so you became awkward and difficult to the extent that it was clear you would be a disruptive element in the practical running of the tournament if you were to be first contact for AKA. It now appears that, rather than allow somebodyelse to take that role, support them and enjoy the tournament with your clan, you have been obstinate in rejecting our decision and made threats to de-rail the tournament.

It appears that we are at the unfortunate point of reaching the deadline without a suitablke first contact being provided for AKA. I really hope one comes forward.

Hopefully you will already be aware of the imminent Clan League. It promioses to be an exciting season.

There are only a few days left for registration (until 2nd Jan). If you wish to enter, be sure to click the banner above and follow the steps required (post 1st and 2nd contacts and preliminary list of 10 players).

The finer details have all been thrashed-out (see first post)and a large proportion of the clan community have joined.

We hope you can join too, and add the the fun and competitive spirit.

The season is not too game intensive and can be played with as few as 10 players.

Please feel free to post or PM any questions to myself or WPBRJ.

eddie2 wrote:

far2ezee wrote:Ed,

What are your thoughts on entering Clan League Season 4?

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hi far2 i have added dj and wpbrj into this response.

i am all for joining cl4 but the is 1 thing that concerns me..

registration time needs to be extended 1 week. i do not have time to read through the rules and regs of it and see pro's and con's. the thread was started 20th december and last sign up is 2nd jan. for most people who have kids this is a peak holiday period

if you could extend sign ups by even 3 days i could look into it. as kids go back to school on the 4th. I feel the cla is being unfair with the time period for sign ups. given the period they have made it.

response was.

WPBRJ wrote:Hello AKA

Lets start off by first off correcting the statement of the opening of registration we opened on the 19th not the 20th saying that, there has been, to date 32 clans that signed up for the clan league. This being said there will be no extension of a week or even 3 days for that matter. This has been in the CLA for months now, and the rules and format has been in there since December 6th. This has been more than enough time for ever clan to read over the rules and make an educated decision on whether they want to participate or not.

I personally find it very hard to believe that a clan your size of 27 players with 4 leaders and ill assume you have 1 or 2 MOWs are relying on 1 person to make this decision. This one person is coming forward 4 days prior to close of registration, and If this is true it is very selfish of one player to even suggest that we postpone, when 32 other clan were able to make this decision just fine with the holidays and yes hundreds of players have family’s if not thousands.

I am sorry if you don’t join due to one player saying yes or no. I will also feel bad for the 26 other players in your clan that will miss out on probably the best CL yet, and they wont even get a chance to play in it due too that one players decision.

We wish you all the best at AKA but like I said earlier there will be no extensions of dead lines. Ether AKA is in with proper registration, 1st and 2nd contacts and a list of 10 premium players posted in the CL4 registration thread by January 2, 2012 by 12:00am midnight CC time or your out, your call, your decision.

Thnx and GL with your decision!!

R.J.

do i need to post more cl4 needed conformation from 10 members i needed to talk with clan to get this info. like i tried to explain to your other half. it was peak holiday period and i asked for a small extension so i could do this. but instead i got hit with it isnt 1 member this is down to. but you were asking me to make the clans mind up.

We're going over old ground here eddie. You got the 10 players just like everyone else so didn't need to have reacted to the refusal to your request for an extension. You got the ten required players in the time frame easily, plus, these lists can be changed later if required.

Still not sure what the ????s that were unanswered, and, yes, threats can be read implicitly in some of your posts above, as well as PMs.

Lets move on.

As I said, your are welcome to join as a clan if you have an alternative first contact. Your contact is purely that, somebody that is in touch with your Division Director primarily. It can be somebody that you advise if that is how your clan wishes to operate.

DJ Teflon wrote:We're going over old ground here eddie. You got the 10 players just like everyone else so didn't need to have reacted to the refusal to your request for an extension. You got the ten required players in the time frame easily, plus, these lists can be changed later if required.

Still not sure what the ????s that were unanswered, and, yes, threats can be read implicitly in some of your posts above, as well as PMs.

Lets move on.

As I said, your are welcome to join as a clan if you have an alternative first contact. Your contact is purely that, somebody that is in touch with your Division Director primarily. It can be somebody that you advise if that is how your clan wishes to operate.

so why can it not be me then dj i have run several tourneys with no problems and clan tourneys you organised with no problem. the problem is with certain members of cla and i am sorry when i finally read through the rules it did not state what you are doing. same as my pms you made 1 response that you deleted before i could read. the rest has been from player i do not get on with. let me ask you show me 1 aka war thread that validates what cla are saying. have i been out of order in any post show me 1 and ill admit defeat.as aka we have allowed certain things to pass by even offering things that most clans would not.

1) grim reapers iamcooler disappeared did i demand the forfeit we desverved no i gave a extension. even when it was looking close i offeres rematch for games he d/beat out of( asl shoop76)2)sdh ra they had a player kicked for multi. what did i do contact him and offer rematchs of my own back.

i admit i have had my fair hare of arguements but in clan wars i am very fair. i would say fairer than most. so what is happening goes back to my days as a time member which was my first clan and a learning point. i see you brought up the fact i should of reported how far2 got into cla. i tried that before and got nowhere. as it is a private user group and down to group leader. but that is past i really dont care what cla want. but like you said to refuse 27 players because of your partners hate for me is a joke.

DJ Teflon wrote:It appears that we are at the unfortunate point of reaching the deadline...

Alas. G1 didn't begin discussions of this CL until the 31st. It appears the deadline expired while we were assembling a player list.Ah, well. Enjoy!

Ahem. After being contacted, and seeing the irregular size of the entry pool, G1 has provided our data. If the clan pool can be filled to it's intended size, we will be happy to compete....I wasn't aware of the odd number of sign-ups, or I'd have done that the first time I posted here. My apologies.

Data provided directly to WPBRJ and DJ Teflon. If we get in, they can post it for all to see. If they instead shrink the pool, you can just pretend I was never here.

DJ Teflon wrote:It appears that we are at the unfortunate point of reaching the deadline...

Alas. G1 didn't begin discussions of this CL until the 31st. It appears the deadline expired while we were assembling a player list.Ah, well. Enjoy!

Ahem. After being contacted, and seeing the irregular size of the entry pool, G1 has provided our data. If the clan pool can be filled to it's intended size, we will be happy to compete....I wasn't aware of the odd number of sign-ups, or I'd have done that the first time I posted here. My apologies.

Data provided directly to WPBRJ and DJ Teflon. If we get in, they can post it for all to see. If they instead shrink the pool, you can just pretend I was never here.

they might not let you in thinking i will kick off about it, as this was the arguement i had with them asking for extra time.....I will state here i will not do this. as i understand what was going on with you g1. i seen the thread open i thought we would have about 4 weeks so i planned on looking at it this week. and still think it was a stupid time period to have signups. given what time of the year it was.

DJ Teflon wrote:It appears that we are at the unfortunate point of reaching the deadline...

Alas. G1 didn't begin discussions of this CL until the 31st. It appears the deadline expired while we were assembling a player list.

Ah, well. Enjoy!

Thanks for understanding G1 - your attitude is to be applauded.

We anticipate we will have 40 clans signed-up. We are currently giving an extra day to see if this happens. If not, we will revert to the clans which signed-up within the deadline.

Assuming we achieve the 40 clans (this is the maximum), then we will have a very practical number: we can have 8 divisions of 5 in Phase 1, with positions determining which of 5 divisions (of clans will enter in Phase 2.

DJ Teflon wrote:It appears that we are at the unfortunate point of reaching the deadline...

Alas. G1 didn't begin discussions of this CL until the 31st. It appears the deadline expired while we were assembling a player list.

Ah, well. Enjoy!

Thanks for understanding G1 - your attitude is to be applauded.

We anticipate we will have 40 clans signed-up. We are currently giving an extra day to see if this happens. If not, we will revert to the clans which signed-up within the deadline.

Assuming we achieve the 40 clans (this is the maximum), then we will have a very practical number: we can have 8 divisions of 5 in Phase 1, with positions determining which of 5 divisions (of clans will enter in Phase 2.

Thanks to all who have entered.

We look forward to a great season.

More news to follow very soon .....

dj a extra day do you not mean 3 extra days. lol. like i said i would not complain about any other clan being allowed to sign up. but was my first post to you not asking for a extension of time of 1 week or until the 4th january.and response i got was saying how bad a clan is this has been on the table since beginning of december. seems to me you are treating clans players that just show up late with more respect than someone who actually contacted you within time asking to be late.

DJ Teflon wrote:It appears that we are at the unfortunate point of reaching the deadline...

Alas. G1 didn't begin discussions of this CL until the 31st. It appears the deadline expired while we were assembling a player list.

Ah, well. Enjoy!

Thanks for understanding G1 - your attitude is to be applauded.

We anticipate we will have 40 clans signed-up. We are currently giving an extra day to see if this happens. If not, we will revert to the clans which signed-up within the deadline.

Assuming we achieve the 40 clans (this is the maximum), then we will have a very practical number: we can have 8 divisions of 5 in Phase 1, with positions determining which of 5 divisions (of clans will enter in Phase 2.

Thanks to all who have entered.

We look forward to a great season.

More news to follow very soon .....

well i dont see nothing bad,if clan league have 38 or 39 clans.Just like in any tournament cometition some group will have one more cometitor,and some dont. Just look on European qualification in football, if they take your logic,then some country will never compete for european championship,because dont fit on group stage cometition.If you have 38 clans then you can create 6 groups,where 4 group will have 6 teams, and two group will have 7 teams, and problem solve.