I uninstall both and reinstall "Home screen Designer" and i'm still having the icon disappearing problem . It doesn't happen all the time but i notice when it does it's when i change themes in Winterboard or if i have a random crash .

Something has to be lingering from Home Screen Designer... I just can't for the life of me figure out what. I've searched in ifile for hours.

I haven't changes themes in a few days and so far since I made the change have resprung dozens of times and haven't been able to move a single icon without it vanishing.

Home Screen Designer does seem to be preferred, I just don't really care for it. It's pretty cumbersome for what I'm looking for.