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Re: Colts vs. Browns

I'm with you. I don't want to root for a mediocre product. Same reason the last few years I had no problem with the Pacers losing until this last year. You need talent and what is basically two first round picks this year will really help Manning the next few years. With Manning basically out for the season it's a great chance to take advantage of the situation and get high draft picks.

The offense looks great if you add Manning and will only be better next year. A few added stud defensive players in the draft and maybe a free agent defensive player and the Colts will be retooled to make a run in Manning's last few years. I hope they get rid of Coyer, though. I hate the cushions he gives receivers with a passion.

Re: Colts vs. Browns

a franchise QB is much different than a RB like Herschel RB's are fragile and get hurt and are a dime a dozen a QB like Luck is much more valuable and way more rare.(hasnt been a prospect like Luck since Manning) If you can get a young RB for a older one you do it.(if they have the same skill level/upside

especially in this day in age teams with franchise QBs don't even need a good RB.

Re: Colts vs. Browns

a franchise QB is much different than a RB like Herschel RB's are fragile and get hurt and are a dime a dozen a QB like Luck is much more valuable and way more rare.(hasnt been a prospect like Luck since Manning) If you can get a young RB for a older one you do it.(if they have the same skill level/upside

especially in this day in age teams with franchise QBs don't even need a good RB.

But #1 draft picks at QB aren't always a sure thing these days.. At least Manning is

Re: Colts vs. Browns

The Chiefs are worse than us statistically, but they also haven't played Cleveland who looks like a 4-12 team. The Lions are a possible playoff team this year and even the Bills are probably better than the Browns this year.

Re: Colts vs. Browns

Do you remember how hyped he was before he got hurt? Obviously not. The whole reason he was the number 1 pick even after missing almost his entire senior year was because of his hype.

dude Jake Locker was considered the best QB that year. He was considered the #1 pick but he decided to go back to school. Many experts said Suh would of been a much better pick and was the better talent. He wasn't considered a once in a decade type QB talent like many saying Luck is.

Re: Colts vs. Browns

The Chiefs are worse than us statistically, but they also haven't played Cleveland who looks like a 4-12 team. The Lions are a possible playoff team this year and even the Bills are probably better than the Browns this year.

If gambling were legal, I'd totally be willing to put $100 on the Colts to win that game against the Chiefs, assuming Charles is out for the season. Last season he meant almost as much to the the Chiefs as Manning meant to the Colts. Why Charles only got something like 10 carries against the Bills, I will never know.

Re: Colts vs. Browns

I am absolutely not impressed at all by Collins. Actually, I never thought much of him even during his glory years. But, I have to say in his defense, I didn't think our receivers we're getting good separation for the most part.

That said, Collins still looked deer-in-the-headlightsish. I get he's shortchanged on prep, but what about all the veteran wisdom, leadership, and the scaled back offense?

Defense was just okay. In their defense, our STs and turnovers have put their back against the wall a ton this preseason. I'm not encouraged, however, by okay D against the likes of the Brown's offense. That translates into Houston-game-like-D against most.

Re: Colts vs. Browns

I meant that he's not the player the entire team lives and dies by(like the Cotls/Manning). I mean he was there for the first game and they still got waxed.

I think Charlie Weis meant a lot more to that team than Haley was willing to ever admit and it shows.

And losing Eric Berry was killer too.

Actually he kind of was that team was built on running the football. They lead the NFL last year in rushing Jamaal was by far the most important player to the Chiefs success last year and it wasn't even close. When that team ran the ball well last year they won when they didn't they lost I would say he was a huge key to the success.