I bought a Jeep Cherokee in 1995. It was the first new car I’d ever bouht...put over 250K on that thing. Really loved it. Not so much of a Chrysler lover anymore...even though my wife drives a 300. I’m in a Taurus and love it.

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posted on 02/26/2013 1:30:16 PM PST
by pgkdan
( "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson)

I work for a company that has the Patriot, Chevy Equinox & Honda CRV for the outside reps to utilize. The reps that drive the Patriot hate it..complain about engine noise, acceleration/power & stalling issues.

But take a look on the web, Edmunds.com..Cars.com etc..have personal customer reviews/complaints.

I just bought a ‘13 Wrangler in December and couldn’t be happier. This being my first Jeep I must admit that I’m surprised at how fun it has been driving, even with the slightly elevated noise from the soft top. Has plenty of power from the 3.6 V6 (285HP) and it MOVES when you step on the gas.

Jeep Patriot is based on the Dodge Caliber platform. It seems to have at least average reliability. Doesn’t seem to be well-liked, but if the price is right it *may* be a good value.

This small SUV class is a sweet spot in the market, loaded with outstanding vehicles: Ford Escape, Toyota Rav4, Honda CRV, Mazda CX5, Subaru Forester, and Hyundai, Kia, Mitsubishi, etc. Unless the Jeep name is desired, it would have to be at a bargain price.

Well, the Patriot ain’t American, unless you count the UAW guys in Chicago bolting the wheels on the chassis. Last time I checked they were owned by Fiat, with parts manufactured in Mexico and final assembly in Illinois.

It’s about as American as a Maryville Honda.

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posted on 02/26/2013 1:56:48 PM PST
by PhiloBedo
(You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)

My brother-in-law has a 2006 Grand Cherokee / Wagoneer thing ... LOTS of small problems like ALL of the interior door handles breaking off ( bad quality plastic ) ,, my neighbor had a RAM 1500 where the dash (cracked like the grand canyon) and all the interior plastic fell apart ... these little things will cost a fortune to fix over time if you intend to keep this new car in like new condition.. His car has the new high efficiency 4.7l V8 which is actually pretty good.

Bottom line Chryslers ALWAYS have TERRIBLE resale value because they fall apart and the owners become disgusted with them and let them fall apart even more...

I’d look at USED trucks that CAN get the job done ...

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posted on 02/26/2013 2:04:38 PM PST
by Neidermeyer
(I used to be disgusted , now I'm just amused.)

I have the Wrangler Sport with the 5 speed automatic, although it does allow you to select the “top gear” by moving the gear shift to the left or right. Black/black with soft top. $25,400 out the door including taxes and license.

I’ll second the TRANSMISSION complaints in post #13 ,, the car you mentioned has a CVT which doesn’t sound like a good match for a 4wd vehicle except in the easiest of conditions ,( Ford says absolutely NO TOWING with theirs and theirs is considered one of the better ones) , I have heard it said that Chrysler keeps the tranny shops in business ... I know one person who uses her Dakota for commuting and drives gently .. tranny needed replacing at about 60,000 miles , this was a traditional auto ... but that CVT is engineered by the same crew ... it ain’t a 727 torqueflite..

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posted on 02/26/2013 2:14:45 PM PST
by Neidermeyer
(I used to be disgusted , now I'm just amused.)

The XJ Cherokee was a great Jeep. There hasn’t been a new one sold for 12 years now and you still see them in numbers every day. The Wrangler is still very capable, even with the minivan’s V6. The Grand Cherokee can be equipped to be off road capable but is too damn expensive unless you get an old one. The rest of the Jeep line up, including the Liberty, are exceptionally bad or fake Jeeps unworthy of the name.

Back in ‘07 I bought a new Jeep Compass. 9,000 miles later, the crap started. Only drove it back and forth to work (highway) and to the grocery store. 65k miles and $3,000 in repairs later, I traded it for a Honda CRV.
Patriot - just got back from visiting family in California, rented a Jeep Patriot. Good enuff for getting around, but it was sluggish and had the same groaning transmission that the Compass had.
You’re better off walking.

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posted on 02/26/2013 2:39:25 PM PST
by fivecatsandadog
(Let's not be so open-minded that our brains fall out.)

The XJ Cherokee was a great Jeep. There hasnt been a new one sold for 12 years now and you still see them in numbers every day.

There are four in my neighborhood. Including my 1996, which is the oldest one (all the rest are the 1997+ with the redesigned exterior and interior).

First vehicle I bought on my own (new - I specifically bought "early" in 1996 so I could have another 1984 body-type), and someone else will get it after they pry the steering wheel out of my cold, dead hands. And maybe not even then ... assuming that one of my kids doesn't show an active interest in having it, chances are I'll try to be buried in it :)

Not to say that it isn't problematic. Like most old Jeeps it leaks small quantities of just about everything. Currently having a larger-than-small, but not significant cooling system/radiator/waterpump issue. Leaks anti-freeze a bit more for my liking, but it's not my daily driver so I really only worry when it stops leaking.

Mercedes-Benz 5G-Tronic transmission
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The Mercedes-Benz 5G-TRONIC (also called 722.6) is an electronically shifted 5-speed overdrive automatic transmission. It is in the process of being replaced by the Mercedes Benz 7G-Tronic Transmission which was introduced in 2003. However, all V12-powered cars such as the S600 and S65 AMG still retain the 5G-Tronic, which has a torque capacity of 796 lb-ft, as the newer 7G-Tronic is limited to 542 lb-ft, not enough to handle the torque from the V12 engine.[1] Also, while rear-wheel drive W211 E-Class cars have adapted the 7G-Tronic, those with 4MATIC retain the five-speed automatic, although the current generation W212 E-Class released for the 2010 model year has dropped the 5G-Tronic entirely, except for four-cylinder models.
In Chrysler applications this transmission is identified as the New Automatic Gearbox- Generation One, or NAG1.

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