Josh Gordon is in trouble with the law, again. The Browns wide receiver was arrested for DWI in Raleigh, N.C, early Saturday morning, according to records from the Raleigh/Wake City-County Bureau of Identification.

Josh Gordon is in trouble with the law, again. The Browns wide receiver was arrested for DWI in Raleigh, N.C, early Saturday morning, according to records from the Raleigh/Wake City-County Bureau of Identification.

Browns still have the Inner Circle in place? If so it's the time to get Gordon in there. Although I don't know if anything helps him

Galley Boys are slop on top of a so-so burger and a bun you coulde get from a Covneninet food mart generic pack. They the Antoine Joubert of burgers; soft, sloppy, oozing grease and cheap sauce and extremely overrated by a biased fan base. Proof that if you throw enough cheap sauce shit on a burger you still can't overcome the lame burger. -JB

Pretty sure the Inner Circle is dead. Pretty sure the inner circle was pretty ineffective when I was a ballboy in the mid 80's.

Don Rogers died the day before I started from coke overdose at bachelor party attended by Hanford Dixon and numerous Browns. There's more to that than just Rogers deciding to try

Al Gross was arrested running naked and high through back yards, Kevin Mack was a mess, Chip Banks was Josh Gordon, and there were drug and alcohol issues throughout that locker room. I could speculate as to whom but would be guessing for the most part. But there were a load of dudes with issues.

Spin wrote:So, according to Roger Goodell, smoking a doobie is eight times as bad as beating the shit out of your wife. Really NFL, is he the best you can do???

This is a lazy argument.

I agree Rice should have gotten 4-8 games off, but Gordon is a frequent flier. And he added to the issues when he got the DUI on the heels of being called into the league office for the marijuana issues.

The NFL could have and should have come down a hell of a lot harder on Rice and established their views on violence against women, but it has nothing whatsoever to do with Gordon's prospective punishment.

Spin wrote:So, according to Roger Goodell, smoking a doobie is eight times as bad as beating the shit out of your wife. Really NFL, is he the best you can do???

This is a lazy argument.

I agree Rice should have gotten 4-8 games off, but Gordon is a frequent flier. And he added to the issues when he got the DUI on the heels of being called into the league office for the marijuana issues.

The NFL could have and should have come down a hell of a lot harder on Rice and established their views on violence against women, but it has nothing whatsoever to do with Gordon's prospective punishment.

I don't disagree, but in the era of instant judgments, the NFL now looks like they are more permissive of wife-beating than they are of the gonja.

This could play in Gordon's favor in the sense he may not get a whole season now.

He's still a dumb fuck and Ray Rice needs to be taken to the woodshed.

Based on the stories coming out, he might actually get away with the "hot" half of his test. His lawyers have a good case...and GODell is likely looking for a way to fix this.

Remember, the Browns are now the NFL's favorite baby with JFF (arguably the leagues biggest star) in the mix over here. Even without playing a snap. Suspending Gordon would hurt the team right as all eyes are on Cleveland...for multiple reasons.

Believe me, people I meet out here are really pulling for Cleveland to win a GD Championship. As a nation, we really like to pull for the underdogs. Better make room on the bandwagon peeps, there's gonna be a helluva lotta people around the world on board when our teams start winning. Its just a great story.

Goodell brought this shit on himself by making Rice's punishment so light. Now, despite the letter of the law and punishment for 3rd offense substance abuse being spelled out in the CBA, he knows that whatever punishment he gives Gordon will be Wife Beater vs. Pot Smoker. The facts won't mean anything in the court of public opinion.

This might help Gordon get a lesser sentence than he probably deserves if the rules were followed to the T.

Throw in the minuscule amount the A sample was over and the B sample being under and the lawyers and the degree of error on the testing machines, Goodell might find himself in a must-capitulate circumstance.

Concerning Ray Rice - his penalty - and the fact it happened in a casino.

I'll throw this out there, if I'm a betting man, I'd bet Steven A, wasn't too far off. In other words, I'd bet ole' Ray's chick was giving it to him. Not saying it justifies anything, just saying it may explain the lighter sentence.

Cause there's no way in holy hell the ENTIRE thing wasn't on camera - and there's no way Goodell didn't see the entire incident.

It's the only way the ruling makes an ounce of sense.

In the end, what appears to be a soft ruling in the Rice deal may help Gordon.

Updating earlier post: Roger Goodell will be in Canton, Ohio on Fri. and now will meet with Browns WR Josh Gordon at sometime in next week.

Galley Boys are slop on top of a so-so burger and a bun you coulde get from a Covneninet food mart generic pack. They the Antoine Joubert of burgers; soft, sloppy, oozing grease and cheap sauce and extremely overrated by a biased fan base. Proof that if you throw enough cheap sauce shit on a burger you still can't overcome the lame burger. -JB

leadpipe wrote:Concerning Ray Rice - his penalty - and the fact it happened in a casino.

I'll throw this out there, if I'm a betting man, I'd bet Steven A, wasn't too far off. In other words, I'd bet ole' Ray's chick was giving it to him. Not saying it justifies anything, just saying it may explain the lighter sentence.

Cause there's no way in holy hell the ENTIRE thing wasn't on camera - and there's no way Goodell didn't see the entire incident.

It's the only way the ruling makes an ounce of sense.

In the end, what appears to be a soft ruling in the Rice deal may help Gordon.

Yeah, maybe. I'm sure it's on camera because everything there is on camera. I don't understand why we haven't seen it, though. I mean, how does something like that not leak out?

Hikohadon wrote:Goodell brought this shit on himself by making Rice's punishment so light. Now, despite the letter of the law and punishment for 3rd offense substance abuse being spelled out in the CBA, he knows that whatever punishment he gives Gordon will be Wife Beater vs. Pot Smoker. The facts won't mean anything in the court of public opinion.

This might help Gordon get a lesser sentence than he probably deserves if the rules were followed to the T.

Throw in the minuscule amount the A sample was over and the B sample being under and the lawyers and the degree of error on the testing machines, Goodell might find himself in a must-capitulate circumstance.

Not to mention the apparently unreasonably small amount that gives a positive result. 10X less than WADA is kind of ridiculous.

I've been in the "The punishment for weed is ridiculous but that doesn't make Gordon any less of a dope" camp since the news, but I'm not so sure. The guy is tested every 3 days and had 70 negative tests before this "positive". I'm not an expert, but it does sound like second hand smoke might actually be a reasonable explanation.

We can argue about whether or not Gordon is an idiot for even being in a room where people are smoking (he is). But that doesn't change the possibility that Josh Gordon didn't actually DO anything. And we are talking about taking away a grown man's ability to make a living for a year based on him not doing anything in a room full of people you wish he wasn't friends with.

leadpipe wrote:Concerning Ray Rice - his penalty - and the fact it happened in a casino.

I'll throw this out there, if I'm a betting man, I'd bet Steven A, wasn't too far off. In other words, I'd bet ole' Ray's chick was giving it to him. Not saying it justifies anything, just saying it may explain the lighter sentence.

Cause there's no way in holy hell the ENTIRE thing wasn't on camera - and there's no way Goodell didn't see the entire incident.

It's the only way the ruling makes an ounce of sense.

In the end, what appears to be a soft ruling in the Rice deal may help Gordon.

Yeah, maybe. I'm sure it's on camera because everything there is on camera. I don't understand why we haven't seen it, though. I mean, how does something like that not leak out?

Because a casino NEVER would release video showing a big money customer, connected to a big money league, in a negative light unless forced by law. I GUARANTEE they have videos of professional athletes turning over tables and everything else under the sun, but the first employee that broaches the subject is out on the street.

leadpipe wrote:Concerning Ray Rice - his penalty - and the fact it happened in a casino.

I'll throw this out there, if I'm a betting man, I'd bet Steven A, wasn't too far off. In other words, I'd bet ole' Ray's chick was giving it to him. Not saying it justifies anything, just saying it may explain the lighter sentence.

Cause there's no way in holy hell the ENTIRE thing wasn't on camera - and there's no way Goodell didn't see the entire incident.

It's the only way the ruling makes an ounce of sense.

In the end, what appears to be a soft ruling in the Rice deal may help Gordon.

Yeah, maybe. I'm sure it's on camera because everything there is on camera. I don't understand why we haven't seen it, though. I mean, how does something like that not leak out?

Because a casino NEVER would release video showing a big money customer, connected to a big money league, in a negative light unless forced by law. I GUARANTEE they have videos of professional athletes turning over tables and everything else under the sun, but the first employee that broaches the subject is out on the street.

Everyone is a SGT. Schultz if they wanna job.

I just figured that some putz somewhere would have gotten his hands on it somehow and sold it to TMZ. I know I would have. I'm an epic putz.

It sounds like the most likely scenario is that Gordon gets some sort of compromise and doesn't have to serve the full season. Basically, Gordon will get suspended for however many games it takes to not look like a bunch of idiots in the wake of the Ray Rice debacle, why also not looking inconsistent with their drug policy enforcement.

Personally, I think it's impossible. They are going to look stupid no matter what they do.

The A & B samples being either just over or under the allowable levels and the way this Raleigh DUI at .09 is going to be fought?

Jesus. I'm actually more afraid of what happens to the kid if he walks away free on both these things. That said, I can see between 4-6 on the weed and nothing on the DUI when the breathalyzer calibration is argued.

And had Lubber's "league source" mentioned the hearing being continued, I'd have given it some merit.

But these days there ain't a swinging dick on a message board that AIN'T got sources or at least that thinks they do.

peeker643 wrote:Whatever happens, the line JG is walking is incredibly impressive.

The A & B samples being either just over or under the allowable levels and the way this Raleigh DUI at .09 is going to be fought?

Jesus. I'm actually more afraid of what happens to the kid if he walks away free on both these things. That said, I can see between 4-6 on the weed and nothing on the DUI when the breathalyzer calibration is argued.

And had Lubber's "league source" mentioned the hearing being continued, I'd have given it some merit.

But these days there ain't a swinging dick on a message board that AIN'T got sources or at least that thinks they do.

Yawn.

The problem isn't the swinging dick on the message boards with a "source" - those guys have been around since this thing was invented. The problem is that the message board guy's swinging dick is apparently the same one that "Legitimate" media is now swinging.

Lubber's source is worse than (insert anyone from mainstream media's name here)'s source? Hard to tell.