Show #56 Carl Erickson, Atomic Object.

Bob and Pat interview Carl Erickson, President of Atomic Object, on the importance of testing regardless of platform, how to outsource startup development, applying Agile techniques – pair programming and standup meetings – to startup development, why programming deathmarches are a bad idea and more.

We also talk about the new Windows Phone 7 platform: Why Microsoft took Windows Mobile out behind the chemical shed and shot it, why it’s not a knockoff of either the Apple iPhone or Google Android, and offers a genuinely innovative interface for startups to play with soon.