If you watch the news, many of the rich and famous, have fallen to crime ways, so poverty is not the insticator to crime.

There are good, honest and hard working people, who fall into the poverty category, but they hold their heads up high, for what they do have, they have earned the good old fashion way... through hard work.

Whatever motivates a person... some have committed crimes for need (poverty), for greed (either for the object they are pursuing or as a means to get it... i.e. drugs, power, money), for love, out of boredom, mental imbalances, dares, just about any reason you can think of. The thing is most, if not all, of those can also motivate a person to do good things.

Greed or need can cause people to turn to crime but it comes from any walk of life.
Look at all the big business, politicians and all embezzling.
Some people justify their crime by believing they were cheated or victimized and it is owed them. Many don't care who they hurt as long as they get what they want.

Take it from someone who has been in poverty for most of his life. Although poverty does cause a big need, it is not always the reason that would cause crime. I believe there are three things that will cause a person to commit crime.

Need, whether it's a need for money or a need to be respected. Of course in poverty you have a need, not necessarily for drugs but it could be a need to live well. From personal experience, I have to admit I had committed crimes so that I could pay my bills and have a roof over my head. I'm not proud of it but for instance, that was a need. Some people will commit murder because for instance, the person that was killed may have disrespected the person who murdered him. The murderer had a need for respect, so he committed a crime to be respected.

Greed, either greed for more than what is needed, greed to have power over other people, or greed to be feared or respected. Politicians, CEO's, or other big shots would commit crimes because they are greedy over money power and respect. They might break laws so that they would be powerful over other people, richer than other people, or to be seen as a respected or feared man.

Or love, whether it is for a person that you love, or the love of rights. People have committed crimes, not to do something bad but rather to change things that they thought were bad. For example, animal rights people may break into facilities and break out the animals for love of the animal's rights although they are breaking the law.

This is just a few examples, but this should be enough for you to get an idea of what I am saying.

Poverty does not cause crime. The individual who commits the crime is the one who thinks they need to do this act for whatever reason at the time.

The main reasons people commit crime are the same as the 7 deadly sins. There are no other reasons other than the 7 when you come down to it.

What about when someone breaks a crime out of patriotism. Since your talking about sins, what about in China where Christianity is outlawed, I severely doubt the Christians there are breaking the law out of sin.

Did I ever say that drugs are the biggest cause? and I never even touched the alcohol subject. I said and I quote

Originally Posted by Da Bigchamp

Of course in poverty you have a need, not neccesarily for drugs but it could be a need to live well.

Either way, even if drugs weren't illegal there would still be drug related crime. Even if drugs were legal there would still be the addiction, and with the strong addiction there would be crime. The addicted person would still need money to buy these drugs and after this drugee spent all of his money, where is he going to get that money? The people who supply the drugs could possibly have a big blow to their market or it could help them. On one hand, if big companies were now allowed to sell drugs then drug ring's market would go down. And on the other hand, if drugs were now legal they wouldn't have to hide the selling of it and more people wouldn't be nervous buy it. So you see drug prohibition wouldn't stop all drug related crime, only the crime of smoking and or selling it.

I wasn't arguing with you. I was arguing with the Padre and Allheart who said drugs cause crime.

Certainly, people steal to buy all sorts of things, like TV's. You don't call that TV related crime. You just call it crime. If drugs weren't illegal, they'd be cheap, and anybody could afford them. That doesn't mean people won't steal to get them. It just means some people are crooks.

If you make them legal and regulate them and sell them like we sell tobacco or alcohol, then the crime surrounding "drugs" would disappear. Just like there's no "tobacco" related crime.

I wasn't arguing with you. I was arguing with the Padre and Allheart who said drugs cause crime.

Certainly, people steal to buy all sorts of things, like TV's. You don't call that TV related crime. You just call it crime. If drugs weren't illegal, they'd be cheap, and anybody could afford them. That doesn't mean people won't steal to get them. It just means some people are crooks.

If you make them legal and regulate them and sell them like we sell tobacco or alcohol, then the crime surrounding "drugs" would disappear. Just like there's no "tobacco" related crime.

You addressed you previous statement to me, so I assumed you were talking to me. I guess your right, but there would still be strong crime sourunding drugs, seeing as weed and other popular drugs are more addictive than tabbacco.

poverty is one of the must vicious decease known to man, the phrase says that "a hungry man is an angry man" therefore people will do what ever is necessary to survive in life. Poverty leads to crime because people want things in order to survive. But are not geared to work for it, but need it. What to do if its legally impossible to get, but necessary for life...

crime does pay, and the criminal pay it back with there morals, values and life...