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When and where?

Hello,

When and where is the art going to be on display? I know that the 30th is the last day for entries. Do they have until midnight? Or was it midnight 29th?
The suspense is killing me! I can't wait till I get to see all the cool art.

The answer: It will be on display in its own gallery on the main AO site. You will be notified via the main site as well as here on the forums as to where the gallery actually is, and how to vote. AS for how long it will take for the AO Staff to set it up, that all depends on how busy they are. It may be set up by Monday, or it may take a week. Again it depends on how busy they are.

And as for entry deadlines, that was pretty clear in the Official Rules...

Contest Dates will be November 04, 2001 - November 30, 2001!
Entries will not be collected until AFTER November 12, 2001.
( Deadline for entries will be Midnight PST USA, November 30, 2001. All entries will then be gathered and placed in a Gallery for final vote by AO Members. When the Gallery is completed, all AO Members will be notified VIA the Forums and given voting instructions.)

ok, let me rephrase this to make sure that i am clear with your meaning, in your mind it is unethical to tell a friend (who may or may not be a fellow player) to come, join the site, and vote for my entry?

i am NOT talking about spamming boards across the web to hoard votes, just word of mouth.

thank you for your timely response, and no i am NOT trying to start problems, but if you truly believe that people entering this contest will purely sit back and 'let the best man win" i believe you may be mistaken. anytime a prize of value is up for grabs people will do anything in their power to go for it.

i truly want to have a fair shot in this contest, and would be very disappointed to find out at the last moment that i got DQed for asking a teammate to lend his vote to my cause.

but if you truly believe that people entering this contest will purely sit back and 'let the best man win" i believe you may be mistaken

Let me respond to that with the following:

If you think I have never run a contest and am not aware of what SOME people will do to win, you ARE mistaken. I am fully aware of all the tricks and other things people do to win. And you can trust that any improprieties will be handled accordingly, as they were with the last contest.

What I was trying to avoid is a long conversation about how RULES and ETHICS are two different things. You asked me, and I told you, short and sweet.

I will not make a rule that will prohibit new members who may join this weekend or next week (for normal reasons), but BEFORE the voting begins or ends, from voting, simply because some members don't have any ethics, or have poor ones at best.

Again, I was trying to avoid this conversation. I don't have the time to explain ethics to you, nor should I have to... maybe another member can. A little common sense will go a long way.

i truly want to have a fair shot in this contest, and would be very disappointed to find out at the last moment that i got DQed for asking a teammate to lend his vote to my cause.

There are over 3000 AO Members, are you THAT worried that it will come down to ONE vote? I can not believe this to be the case... However if it was, maybe less time should have been spent worrying about the ethics of this process and more time on the entry itself?

I am truly trying NOT to be offensive, but please let this issue drop. I did not avoid answering your question, and in fact did so three times now. I think it has been more than adequately answered now and any further questions about it will be considered disruptive. If you are still confused, keep this in mind.... If you think it may not be right, it probably isn't.... SO DON'T DO IT!

BIG PROBLEM!

Oh no.. oh no oh no oh no...

See... like many people, i put more than 1 pic of my gun (more than 1 camera angle) and so the picture became quite big.. i worked up until almost hte deadline to get it done... had computer problems for a week till the 30th.. and so it was late and when i put these pics together, i didnt realize it at hte time, but hte pic became quite large... try about 1200 x 825. I just HAD to put in those other angles to give the whole story.. but.. im afraid your people will think thats too big and disqualify me...

Its past hte deadline so its not like i can cut some off and resubmit.. will that big size be a problem? the actual file size if small.. only around 55kb's...

please PLEASE tell me if there wil be a problem with my pic.. its a great gun and I was hoping I might come close to actually winning!

Edit: 1 more thing.. I think we all need to give shartley here a hand.. look how hard hes been working on this, trying to answer all of our questions in a calm, ethical way while still being sincere. He has really worked hard on this, and he wont even be able to submit an entry! (I do belive I read no one involved with the contest could enter right?)

So again, Thanks shartley, and thanks to Tom for funding this whole thing.. this is money out of the companies pocket im sure.. right? But of corse.. they will get to see some really cool new ideas with it...

Now..... I hope you DID still enter. I gave rough guidelines, and tried to make sure it was clear that some leeway was going to be used. This is so that as many entries could be gotten as possible. And even at the size you stated I am sure if it is a bit too wide, it can be reduced with no problems here on our end. I don't think we will totally disqualify an entry for being a bit larger than we wanted or can use easily... we will either resize it, or if it is not that much larger, run it as is.

Think of it like a speed limit sign.... if the sign says 65 people will be doing 75 or more. If the sign was to say 75? LOL So if I had not said to try to keep them at 600-700 wide, and said "Sure make them as large as you like.", you can imagine what we would be getting in.

Again, I wanted to keep as much freedom as I could without losing all control.

And you are correct, I can not submit an entry. But that does not bother me.

Yes I did submit it.. I realized it was awfully big AFTER i had mailed it.

Well.. i opened it up again this morning just to admire my work... and Thats when I saw it was huge... Then realized.. "oh no... thats way to big for their web page" followed by mass panic. I made it in 3D Studio, so it isnt like its fuzzy pics bodged together.. so resizing shouldn't change it that much.. But I really wish it were to stay the cureent size... (I rendered hte thing at 800x600, 4 pics, i tried to make them fit in a small of an area as possible, still turned out big )

Well we'll find out soon.
i'll try resizing it myself just to see what it might look like it if you peopel resize it. Hopefully it will still look ok,

Timeline to see entries ???

As with the last contest, it all depends on how much time Tom and the AGD Crew have. If they are very busy, there will be a slight delay in setting up the Gallery.

Then there will be a full week for all votes to be sent in (one vote per member, any trying to "fool" us will be found out very quickly... as it was the last time.). This should allow every member to get their chance to vote.

I hope his gives you a good indication of the timeframe we are looking at.

and

AS for how long it will take for the AO Staff to set it up, that all depends on how busy they are. It may be set up by Monday, or it may take a week. Again it depends on how busy they are.

Will we be otifyed in a new topic...?
If not.. I may miss it.. becuase I didn't really pay alot of attention to this topic until today when I saw it and thoguht "Oh.. they might haev announced the galelry page..."
Man I better not miss it.. gotta get that all important 1 vote in! (I owuldn't be suprised if soem of hte places came down to 1 vote... juts think out of 3000 visitors, only about 1200 visit regularaly.. and I doubt more than 500 peopel entered the contest.. and I doubt more than 1000 will vote... so it should be close (unless its jsut so obvious which are best.. but I doubt.. I expect ot see soem really, really good work))

The answer: It will be on display in its own gallery on the main AO site. You will be notified via the main site as well as here on the forums as to where the gallery actually is, and how to vote. AS for how long it will take for the AO Staff to set it up, that all depends on how busy they are. It may be set up by Monday, or it may take a week. Again it depends on how busy they are.

And to add to that, yes... the notification here on the Forums will be done in its own Thread with BOLD TYPE.

and, im not sure if you knwo htis yet, but will there be soem sort of rank list or something at the end so we see how well we did? Cuase.. only 3 peopel will get announced as winners.. but how will all the others know how they did? I just wanna know if I get close.. you know. Its an ego thing.. some might not undersatnd.

I'm gonna comment about the delay in putting up the fantasy emag gallery for us to vote on (since the other post got closed). I realize that there are reasons for it not being up, whatever those may be. However, I can see it being a problem for any college students who are members here getting ready to leave for Christmas break and missing out on the chance to vote (for those not having Internet at home). I think this is a viable reason for wanting to get the gallery up as soon as possible. Just my two cents.

Not an official word or anything, but I suggest you hold on to it. I have some stuff that uses bits of my official entry that I'm holding on to. After the voting is over I plan to have a thread going with other ideas. Posting it now would just take away from the contest.