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ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.comFri, 09 Dec 2016 15:19:17 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: Debhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/05/police-confirm-they-are-investigating-roethlisberger/#comment-494929
Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:27:07 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494929Reformed what exactly? And speaking of exceptional limitations … I’m sure yours is quite tiny.
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Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:58:51 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494928@cloudweller …
Gloria Steinem never said that.
@reformed …
Speaking of exceptional limits. Bless your heart. I’ll bet yours is tiny indeed.
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Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:21:14 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494927@Deb
Lube your plug. Relax. We are aware of your exceptional limits.
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Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:07:36 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494926Ben should stay away from “today’s woman.”
Gloria Steinem was quoted as saying that,if she knew how the women’s movement would ruin the American Family…shr would never have started it.
Ben was SET UP. Do not compare this filth to the cowardice displayed by Ray”Pile on”Lewis.
Ray Lewis should get the Electric Chair with that creepy,nasty looking Michael Vick.Hang em both!
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Sun, 07 Mar 2010 22:15:34 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494925************** Rema *************
You, my dear,…are an Elitest Piece of Crap.
Ohio, RV’s? WTF?? Get out of the big City, go visit nature for yourself, and for God’s sake, leave your NY Times at home, Beeotch!
You’re simple in The Worst Way.
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Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:50:29 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494924@Amy Wilmer …
I’ve posted on several threads, and it’s obvious from your comments that you haven’t read everything I’ve said. You missed this post directed to someone who shares your sentiments:
“No woman with my background would knowingly defend a serial assaulter for any reason. And I would never condone or defend Ben Roethlisberger’s indiscriminate sexual behavior nor his cavalier treatment of women nor his sheer stupidity in not learning to be more wary of casual encounters. He has done unimaginable harm to himself, his family, his employers, his teammates, and his fans with his selfishness and immaturity. But thus far that’s the only evidence against him. It’s unfortunate that you find a woman committed to due process pathetic and a poor role model.”
Now, Amy, the police have said this was not a rape, so apparently it’s some kind of grabbing, groping, or similar molestation. I was victimized like that by an adult when I was 14. And while I realize you’re not the sharpest tool in the shed, it might have occurred to you that I’ve spent all that time with rape survivors because I’ve also been there, done that. I know you probably don’t consider being raped as traumatic as having your daughter called a “bitch,” but–believe it or not–it would keep me from defending a man if it were proved he’d assaulted someone. The keyword there is “proved.”
As for the “bitches” comment, you must not watch much television because that “hey, bitches, come and get it” thing is rampant. Women say that to each other and men say it to women and gay men say it to each other, and everyone seems to be fine with it. I’m not. And I’m glad to see your daughter isn’t fine with it, either. Good for her. It’s proof that Roethlisberger is a jerk. It’s not proof of sexual assault.
You’re quite the judge and jury when you have no facts, aren’t you, Amy Wilmer?
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Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:09:53 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494923Hey Deb,pensacolasteelers,rpgman,
God forbid any female seek psychological help from you Deb, from your RANTS you sound more like a man, are you sure you aren’t really a Don? And rpgman who said anything about being a Christian and what the hell does religion have to do with this? And pensacolasteelers dude, get a life, really that is quite a defense you put on for that ass. You sound like a little girl in love. I love the way you people defend this idiot. So let’s step back, I never accused this moron of anything. I simply stated facts. POS referred to these college age women, as bitches. His exact words: “Hey bitches come and get your free shots.” Quite frankly most women (Deb/Don excluded) do not like being referred to as a bitch. This goes to POS’s character. My daughter is a college student. She was at the bar before POS was there. She did not even know who POS was, even after being introduced. She immediately left once he got vulgar. And I think it is pretty pathetic that you “grown-ups” feel you have to defend a multi-millionaire against a 20 year girl. So if you want to know what really happened up until 1:45 am friday ask. I do not know what happened between this young woman and POS, but I do know that he is a moron for putting himself in this situation again. And you people are morons for defending him. I mean honestly Deb/Don, “this is difficult for us”. You are the most pathetic of all.
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Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:13:49 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494922@reformed …
So it doesn’t matter whether there’s one shred of evidence that Roethlisberger actually did any of the things he’s accused of doing? You think Goodell should skip all that evidence stuff and just permanently ban him from making a living and drain his bank account at the same time.
Did it hurt when they performed your lobotomy?
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Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:06:14 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494921The NFL does not need an arrest, a conviction, evidence, real or circumstantial to suspend and fine this punk piece of garbage. Roger Goddell needs to invoke a lifetime ban and $10M fine on this trash. Come on Rog you can do it!! Remember Pac man et al:???
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Sat, 06 Mar 2010 23:00:29 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494920@thehoodedone
it’s not “twisted logic” to want to hold off condeming the man until all the fact are gathered and a judges ruling is rendered. You can “hate” him all you want… and you can “hate” the Steelers all you want but until the facts are laid out then there’s no way you, Amy, or her daughter know what the @$%^& happened!
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Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:08:16 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494919@Richm- It is weird that she gave the exact roster specifics and say it wasnt for sure Ben. The average person when guessing weight doesnt say an exact wieght or hieght. Especially in an event as horrific as this. They have ran studies on this exact thing and under the duress the victim was under she would not have been able to accurately, to the inch and pound, describe her attacker. Most people even just describing someone in general use reference points like; he was 6’2″/ 6’3″ 240-250 pounds and thats not in the heat of action, thats calmy standing back and looking.
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Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:12:54 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494918@Richm2256 …
The point people are making about the height and weight is that he ISN’T what he “is.” His official stat is 6’5″ 241 but clearly his weight has ballooned upward. I’ve never known a rape survivor who could give an EXACT height and weight of her attacker. And since she’d been with Ben all evening, why not just give his name?
The police made two things crystal clear in their press conference: Ben and his party hooked up with this girl and her party WHILE they were all out clubbing. She was already out drinking when she met him. And the incident took place at the club, not in a limo. The police said multiple locations within the club were considered a crime scene.
When asked if it were sexual assault or rape, the police said “sexual assault or sexual manipulation.” That may mean intercourse did not occur or she felt she wasn’t sober enough to give informed consent. The hospitalization would likely have been to run a rape kit rather than to treat other physical injury.
There is overwhelming evidence that McNulty lied about the first accusation. The two situations are not related. But I agree that “if Roethlisberger didn’t put himself in the position of carousing with drunken, underage, 20-year-old college students, would we be talking about him today.”
I get that you hate the Steelers. But at the end of the season, I read your passionate defense of the Pats and what they mean to you. Please try to remember when you post that we feel exactly the same about our team and this is difficult for us.
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Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:57:10 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494917The Ray Lewis stuff posted is pure BS at best. Anyone…and I mean anyone, who really followed this unfortunate event overa decade ago, knows the real truth. Lewis was young, immature and made some bad decisions, but in the end, he was not the one who stabbed the victim. He was scared and foolish, and eventually, he made the right call and came clean with what he knew. Unfortunately, this, like the Big Ben initial sexual assault claim, will follow them to their grave.
Big Ben apparently has not learned anything from the first incident and has not been mentored by veteran players, unlike Lewis, who was by the likes of Rod Woodsen and Shannon Sharpe. There is much to be learned yet and it is unfare to him and or his accuser, to try either one of them in the court of public opinion.
One thing is for sure, the Rooney family does not put up very long with these sort of problems, as they have a stellar reputation in the NFL…and will put an end to these sort of wranglings, one way or another. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. One thing is for sure…if you stand in shit, you’ll smell like shit!
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Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:24:52 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494916My wife of 30 years couldn’t tell you my weight or height. Did she tell police he was wearing a superbowl ring also? Her being in a club underage raises a red flag to me. A lot of women have lied about being raped in the past which only hurts true rape victims. Was there any signs she fought him off? Scars or bruises on either of them? Who would be a better target than a 6’5″, 241 lb person already accused of the same crime? It’s going to take a lot more than her accusation to convince me that he is guilty.
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Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:22:03 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494915Another Tiger in the WOODS! Join a dating service and stay out of bars.
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Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:14:27 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494914Another Tiger in the WOODS. Get a dating service but stop what you are trying now!
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Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:01:02 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494913Who cares whether Roethlisberger actually did assault that girl or not?
The point is that this 28 year old so-called “team leader” is stupid enough to actually go bar-hopping with an underage 20 year old college girl, after having been dragged through the mud once already on a sexual assault charge.
This is your “team leader”???? He hasn’t got the intelligence to figure out this kind of stuff isn’t going to get him any GOOD publicity????
By the way, that the police confirmed Roethlisberger and this underage college girl visited “multiple establishments” together over the course of the night changes things a bit. Now it doesn’t look like what she says happened happened inside the night club. Were they in the back of a big ol’ limo with blacked out windows?
Even if he didn’t assault her, the facts that she is 20 years old and visited “multiple establishments” with him while consuming alcoholic beverages can easily be confirmed. It’s not like he can simply deny that. Being a once-accused 28 year old veteran NFL “franchise quarterback” and getting an underage 20 year old college liquored up while bar hopping is not a smart career move.
WTF is this moron thinking????
Is his agent aware that his client is jepdardizing his own career (and the agent’s fat commission)? Are the Pittsburgh Steelers – great organization that they are – and Roger Goodell aware that thier star NFL QB is engaging in at least that much questionable behavior, whether or not he actually did sexually assault her?
I have to say that this latest accusation makes me begin to question his innocence in that first incident, after all. You can tell me that being accused once makes you more likely to be accused a second time … yeah, maybe because it turns out you engage in questionable behavior and not because you’re an innocent “mark”????
If Roethlisberger didn’t put himself in the position of carousing with drunken underage 20 year old college students, would we be talking about him today? All you fans of “Ben” need to stop and think about that before blindly defending this chucklehead
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Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:42:26 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494912Well it would seem to me we will have to wait until the police investigation is complete. If they charge him, then there may really be something to her allegations.
It’s political suicide to attempt to convict a high profile personality and lose. If they indict, there must be something there. At which point, he will be in real trouble.
Whatever does happen, he needs to seriously modify his behavior to avoid these situations.
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Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:24:34 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494911So, by Steelers fan’s twisted logic, OJ Simpson can never be guilty of another muder. I mean, the first one was obviously a setup and he was never convicted.
I said it after the first incident and I’ll say it again. There are thousands of millionaire athletes living in the U.S.A. Why aren’t they all being accused of this brutal crime?
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Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:13:59 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494910winklebean says:
March 5, 2010 7:31 PM
uhoh Rapistburglar understands no as yes.
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RAPISTBURGLAR – Thats a good one!!
]]>By: pensacolasteelershttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/05/police-confirm-they-are-investigating-roethlisberger/#comment-494909
Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:47:29 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494909It’s obviously a ploy to extort money!
Amy @$%^& you and your daughter! And anyone, like you, that condems him before it’s proven whether anything happened or not are the “real” pieces of s**t !
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Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:40:48 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494908I’ll admit it not the smartest thing for him to do, to put himself in a situation where anyone could accuse him of such a thing, especially considering the other suit. But you’ll never convince me that he supposedly did this in a crowded nightclub with a group of his friend who all were there to meet women. No way!
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Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:37:28 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494907Anyone on here saying he’s guilty or calling him names is failing to remember that he’s suppose to be innocent until he’s “proven” guilty.
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Sat, 06 Mar 2010 07:37:28 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494906“Deb says: March 5, 2010 10:51 PM
I have a lot of experience dealing with sexual assault survivors, and have carefully reviewed all the court filings in the first case. Although my bias is always toward the alleged victim, based on the documentation, there’s no question in my mind that Roethlisberger is innocent of that accusation.”
Hey Deb. I;m a Steelers fan too.
I stuck up for him the first time because it seemed a little obvious it was only about the money.
But twice? I dunno…
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Sat, 06 Mar 2010 06:46:49 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494905If Amy’s daughter was there and knew what was going on…then she must potentially be a loose woman of the world herself. It takes one to know one. Notice that she did not mention her daughter;s age either. What a Christian person she appears to be. Giving the benefit of the doubt to her daughter and not to poor little Benny. I wouldn’t want her to hear my confession, she’d send me straight to Hell, I’d bet. Amy, you and your daughter should do more praying instead of preying and condemming potentially innocent men. Also, you must have a real thing against men to talk the way you do. Just a casual observation by an innocent bystander.
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Sat, 06 Mar 2010 03:32:54 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494904@Robert Littal …
I’ve made clear that I can’t form a responsible opinion because the authorities haven’t released the details. The heartfelt defense of his fans, the wild condemnation of his detractors, Amy Wilmer’s rants, and your observation about accusations that have or haven’t been levied at other players are not evidence of anything regarding this accusation against Ben. Neither is whatever happened or didn’t happen in Nevada. The evidence overwhelmingly supports the contention that Andrea McNulty lied about her encounter with Ben. That doesn’t mean he didn’t assault this Georgia woman. It doesn’t mean he did. They are two separate incidents.
As for your comment about accusations: Both my brother and sister-in-law are successful criminal defense attorneys. I’ve learned from them that once someone like Ben is accused of a crime, he is more vulnerable to being accused again. It’s a cloud over your reputation that keeps following you around. So you shouldn’t draw conclusions from the fact that he’s been accused twice. If you’ll research, you’ll find athletes are plagued by assault accusations and some go to extraordinary lengths to make sure they’re never alone with female hotel staffers, groupies, etc., because they know they’re targets. If Ben is innocent of this assault, then it’s unfortunate that he didn’t learn from the McNulty situation to start taking those precautions.
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Sat, 06 Mar 2010 03:19:24 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494903BEN JUST GO BACK TO OH AND BUILD RVS OR SOMETHING!
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Sat, 06 Mar 2010 03:09:00 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494902102 million down the tubes. Dumb Steelers! I am a HUGE fan of them just not the QB idiot….he has a God complex. Maybe he should ride a motorcycle again to get the point!!!
The Commish BETTER do something this time… otherwise he is a loser too.
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Sat, 06 Mar 2010 02:31:17 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494901born and raised a steelers fan… but this guy is a douchebag. He needs a gf or wife. Time to stop being a playboy ben. Even if he is innocent, its still time to stay the f*ck out of the clubs! Grow up!!!! We dont need a Tiger Woods as our QB. Hope Denix Dixon gets to start this year!
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Sat, 06 Mar 2010 02:00:53 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=72908#comment-494900Just visited the Atlanta Journal Constitution website, I think more people ought to do that:
“dlmcc0909 says:
This is so ridiculous. As if a start QB in the NFL needs to rape a girl to get laid right. People will do anything for money and attention apparently”
dlmcc, that girl was a 20 year old college student. I don’t know how many 20 year old college girls you know, but my daughter just graduated last year and I’ve met a ton of them. These girls at that age, from the thriving metropolis of Milledgeville Georgia, aren’t “opportunistic whores”. From the looks of it, she met Roethlisberger in a nightclub that night; she couldn’t have known she was going to run into one of the NFL’s most prominent quarterbacks, hell, she’s probably never even heard of the guy.
The police report states: Roethlisberger and his 20-year-old accuser visited “multiple establishments” together late Thursday night before the alleged attack, said Milledgeville Police Deputy Chief Richard Malone
He picked her up.
A 28 year old NFL veteran Quarterback, and he’s picking up 20 year old college kids.
I don’t know what Ben Roethlisberger did or didn’t do to that girl and neither do any of you. But you can’t simply go into a “skank defense” mode here. After what he’s already been through before, why is a 28 year old NFL veteran QB with a previous brush with sexual assault putting himself in the position of having to defend himself against sexual assault charges with a 20 year old college girl that he’s going “bar hopping” with ???
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