<p><p>I play a brigand on a blue server, and this is what I've learned from playing Battlegrounds. (so far)</p><p>1. Don't stand if front of wizards.</p><p>2. Running away and living is as good as a win if you are out gunned.</p><p>3. Tracking is your friend.</p><p>4. If your healer is following the tank, follow the tank.</p><p>5. If your healer is not following the tank, follow the healer.</p><p>6. Don't loiter around in small groups, it attracts warlocks.</p><p>7. Try an kill conjurors before they notice you.</p><p>8. Potions and totems are very handy.</p><p>9. Ice comet spell double attack sucks.</p><p>10. Toughness gear helps. </p><p>11. Re-read the spells you never use in raid or groups, some are great for battlegrounds.</p><p>12. Re-think AA abilities, create a pvp spec for battlegrounds. (tips hat to red server players)</p><p>13. If you get rolled by a member of the same class, check your combat logs and learn.</p><p>14. Solo killing a healer can be a large time investment.</p><div></div></p>

BMouse

03-08-2010, 09:14 PM

<p>Good post m8</p>

Darkonx

03-08-2010, 09:20 PM

<p>1. People often act like npc's, in that they have an 'aggro range'</p><p>2. People often act like EQ1 npc's, in that they flee < 10%, so save your spikes for then</p><p>3. Soloing a healer is usually not worth the time</p><p>4. Sometimes just getting away from the other team is better than engaging, even if you are going to win (for example, capturing another tower vs killing them)</p><p>5. Berserkers with that green verdict looking buff are not worth fighting because they heal for an insane amount</p><p>6. Dispel > Divine Aura/Manashield</p>

Wytie

03-08-2010, 09:31 PM

<p>Heck most of the people who play on pvp servers dont know alot of that.</p><p>Isnt that sad?</p>

Selpone

03-08-2010, 09:32 PM

<p>If you have it: Disspell! Disspell! Disspell!</p><p>If you have a problem, it may solve it.</p>

Armironhead

03-08-2010, 09:37 PM

<p><cite>jarnpraetor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I play a brigand on a blue server, and this is what I've learned from playing Battlegrounds. (so far)</p><p>1. Don't stand if front of wizards.</p><p>2. Running away and living is as good as a win if you are out gunned.</p><p>3. Tracking is your friend.</p><p>4. If your healer is following the tank, follow the tank.</p><p>5. If your healer is not following the tank, follow the healer.</p><p>6. Don't loiter around in small groups, it attracts warlocks.</p><p>7. Try an kill conjurors before they notice you.</p><p>8. Potions and totems are very handy.</p><p>9. Ice comet spell double attack sucks.</p><p>10. Toughness gear helps. </p><p>11. Re-read the spells you never use in raid or groups, some are great for battlegrounds.</p><p>12. Re-think AA abilities, create a pvp spec for battlegrounds. (tips hat to red server players)</p><p>13. If you get rolled by a member of the same class, check your combat logs and learn.</p><p>14. Solo killing a healer can be a large time investment.</p><div></div></blockquote><p>mmm.... I think you could have summed up better.</p><p>How about:</p><p>to win you need a stacked group.</p><p>You cannot win if the the group opposing you is more stacked then you are.</p><p>Dying over and over again until time runs out is not fun, but is expected in the bgs when facing a stacked grp.</p><p>The matchmaker will stack your opponents grp, but not your grp. (Murphys law applied to the bgs of course)</p><p>There are not enough healers to go around, so all of the available healers will be in your opponents grp.</p><p>If you happen to have a healer he will likely not heal, prefering to run with the flag, or stand around muting items, or some other thing.</p><p>Warlocks are no fun to play with, unless they are on your side then you want two.</p>

Laenai

03-08-2010, 09:47 PM

<p>1. Pick off the illusionist first. Pick off the other team's ranger/wizard/warlock next.</p><p>2. If you see a zerker, pick off as many DPSers as you can before he hits gibe (or whatever that [Removed for Content] 'taunt everything in the zone' thing is)</p><p>3. Your stream of arrows is bugged and will say you're too far away when you're right up in their faces, but too close when you're 15 meters out. It will never work when you need it to.</p><p>4. If you can't kill them, slow them down with snaring shot so they get to your team one at a time.</p><p>5. Don't bother with the paladin/shadowknight/zerker. You'll never win and they'll never get stunned.</p><p>7. Mages have double the range I do.</p><p>8. Don't underestimate the other team's bard. He is fully capable of eating your face.</p><p>9. Don't assume that just because the other team has a healer means that healer is actually going to give them the advantage.</p><p>10. Even if he kills you 12 times in the match, killing Gaige just one time makes you feel like a ranger hero. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p><p>Edited to add: You only have 1-3 kills before the tank finds you and stomps you. Make those kills count.</p>

Naggasaki

03-09-2010, 03:04 AM

<p><cite>jarnpraetor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I play a brigand on a blue server, and this is what I've learned from playing Battlegrounds. (so far)</p><p>1. Don't stand if front of wizards.</p><p>2. Running away and living is as good as a win if you are out gunned.</p><p>3. Tracking is your friend.</p><p>4. If your healer is following the tank, follow the tank.</p><p>5. If your healer is not following the tank, follow the healer.</p><p>6. Don't loiter around in small groups, it attracts warlocks.</p><p>7. Try an kill conjurors before they notice you.</p><p>8. Potions and totems are very handy.</p><p>9. Ice comet spell double attack sucks.</p><p>10. Toughness gear helps. </p><p>11. Re-read the spells you never use in raid or groups, some are great for battlegrounds.</p><p>12. Re-think AA abilities, create a pvp spec for battlegrounds. (tips hat to red server players)</p><p>13. If you get rolled by a member of the same class, check your combat logs and learn.</p><p>14. Solo killing a healer can be a large time investment.</p><div></div></blockquote><p>You sir, win.</p>

Aquemeni

03-09-2010, 03:25 AM

<p>As a Dirge I regretfully have a good reason to spec run speed and I thank god for it</p><p>As a Templar I feel like Jesus</p><p>As an Illy I get off watching crusaders run away from me</p>

rebyenliv

03-09-2010, 03:27 AM

<p>When you're being attacked and you have the enemy targeted it won't let you heal yourself and says;</p><p> 'not a friendly target'</p><p>Seriously I set up macros so I can heal myself faster because of this message, but they don't always work because of taunts, and won't let me cure myself of said taunt. When I have a enemy targeted usualy I can click a heal and it heals me directly but sometimes in bg's it says above statement. I don't remember being like that on nagafen when I played a healer there. Is it something new with bg's or has it always been like that in pvp?</p>

Muraazi

03-09-2010, 03:56 AM

<p>Communication. If you can't join voice chat, you aren't entitled to an opinion or have the right to call other people bad players.</p><p>Learn what is needed to win the objective and act accordingly. Can't tell you how many times I've seen people wasting time fighting at revive points.</p><p>If an enchanter mezzes the person that just grabbed the flag, open with a stun/root/snare ffs.</p><p>You can cast while the elevator is going up in smugglers. Time your blue AE's to fire just as you hit the top. Love sitting on the top of middle tower and watching a team coming up on the elevator with my enchanter. Casting my blue AE stun to hit them right when they get to the top, half the people are still on the vator when it goes back down.</p>

Darkonx

03-09-2010, 04:06 AM

<p><cite>rebyenlives wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>When you're being attacked and you have the enemy targeted it won't let you heal yourself and says;</p><p> 'not a friendly target'</p><p>Seriously I set up macros so I can heal myself faster because of this message, but they don't always work because of taunts, and won't let me cure myself of said taunt. When I have a enemy targeted usualy I can click a heal and it heals me directly but sometimes in bg's it says above statement. I don't remember being like that on nagafen when I played a healer there. Is it something new with bg's or has it always been like that in pvp?</p></blockquote><p>That is because if they are either targetting one of their allies, or nothing, then when your heal tries to heal their implied target (you targetting them means you are technically healing whatever their target is, just as if they were an NPC) it will fail to fire, and will give you that message.</p>

mrsma

03-09-2010, 10:18 AM

<p><cite>jarnpraetor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><p>4. If your healer is following the tank, follow the tank.</p><p>5. If your healer is not following the tank, follow the healer.</p><p>14. Solo killing a healer can be a large time investment.</p><div></div></p></blockquote><p>This ^^^</p><p>Also - If carrying the Relic in Klak and you are not a healer and decide to go solo - you will die. Stay with your healer. </p><p>If your healer does not heal - note their name and kick ASAP.</p><p>Groups that do not talk / communicate die - often</p>

wickermanuk

03-09-2010, 04:14 PM

<p>I've learned the following:</p><p>1. Play either a sorcerer/cleric or crusader</p><p>2. If you don't have a tank that hits taunt your group is at a huge disadvantage</p><p>3. If you don't run as a group, your dead unless your a sorcerer/cleric or crusader</p>

JimmyC01

03-09-2010, 05:07 PM

<p><cite>rebyenlives wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>When you're being attacked and you have the enemy targeted it won't let you heal yourself and says;</p><p> 'not a friendly target'</p><p>Seriously I set up macros so I can heal myself faster because of this message, but they don't always work because of taunts, and won't let me cure myself of said taunt. When I have a enemy targeted usualy I can click a heal and it heals me directly but sometimes in bg's it says above statement. I don't remember being like that on nagafen when I played a healer there. Is it something new with bg's or has it always been like that in pvp?</p></blockquote><p>I have a warden that I play on Naggy....I had this same issue and made self-only macros that had me as the primary target for heals. AlsoProfit UI is your friend.</p>

CorpseGoddess

03-09-2010, 06:12 PM

<p>I learned this in Warhammer, and it applies here as well:</p><p>F<span >ollow the "roll downhill" principle you need in order to win at pvp scenarios.</span></p><p>Kill the healer first, mages second, dps and then tanks.</p><p>If no healers nearby, mages get bumped to the top of the list.</p><p>On the other side, tanks need to be protecting the healers (who will heal them), and the mages, who should be blasting the snot out of everything they can while behind a meatwall. DPS should be harrying the healers---if they have to focus on healing themselves, they're not healing their teammates. DPS, get used to being a kamikaze. It's your job to go in with your group, break from the group and play the decoy, buy your team a few seconds of time, and die. In between this, beat up every mage and healer you can find.</p><p>Rinse and repeat. </p>

Kyior

03-09-2010, 07:13 PM

<p><cite>Aquemeni wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>As a Templar I feel like Jesus</p></blockquote><p>So true.</p>

Albrig

03-09-2010, 07:20 PM

<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Kill the healer first, mages second, dps and then tanks.</p><p>Rinse and repeat. </p></blockquote><p>"Rinse and repeat"</p><p>"Rinse and repeat"</p><p>"Rinse and repeat"</p><p>pve to NPC encounter worlds just haven't been developed enough to be as bad as that; though pve could very easily be attuned to exceed it easily enough. Pvp encounters can't do that, which will be discovered very quickly.</p>

AziBam

03-10-2010, 06:30 PM

<p><cite>jarnpraetor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I play a brigand on a blue server, and this is what I've learned from playing Battlegrounds. (so far)</p><p>1. Don't stand if front of wizards.</p><p>2. Running away and living is as good as a win if you are out gunned.</p><p>3. Tracking is your friend.</p><p>4. If your healer is following the tank, follow the tank.</p><p>5. If your healer is not following the tank, follow the healer.</p><p>6. Don't loiter around in small groups, it attracts warlocks.</p><p>7. Try an kill conjurors before they notice you.</p><p>8. Potions and totems are very handy.</p><p>9. Ice comet spell double attack sucks.</p><p>10. Toughness gear helps. </p><p>11. Re-read the spells you never use in raid or groups, some are great for battlegrounds.</p><p>12. Re-think AA abilities, create a pvp spec for battlegrounds. (tips hat to red server players)</p><p>13. If you get rolled by a member of the same class, check your combat logs and learn.</p><p>14. Solo killing a healer can be a large time investment.</p><div></div></blockquote><p>Several of those made me LOL. Well done, sir. I particularly enjoyed your sorceror related comments.</p><p>I haven't even tried BG yet but I'm getting the itch. I haven't played PVP at all in EQ2 so I fully expect to get destroyed. Perhaps I can injure someone when my corpse happens to be flung violently into them. /schemes</p>

slothmister

03-10-2010, 07:34 PM

<p>Well, looks like we got some inteligence on the blue servers after all!</p><p>How to play....</p><p>Tanks - TAUNT TAUNT TAUNT, forget trying to damage people, if your taunts are up USE THEM!!!</p><p>Healers - heal heal heal, tank 1st, you second (arguable) dps last.</p><p>Mages/scouts - dps dps dps, dont always follow the tank, use your head! Kill the opposing teams dps first, your tank may be target locked to their tank! Kill their lock and u win.</p><p>But most importantly, and this is something bluebies dont do enough of, tanks TAUNT, healers (yes that includes furies) HEAL.</p>

Outkasted2006

03-10-2010, 08:20 PM

<p>I love when you people say healer first....very rarely has it worked, and it has only worked when i happen to NOT see the wizard first (wizards don't one shot me and I am leather!) I am just happy no one is saying nerf fury's. I pretty much lead in kills or am in the top 3 everytime...and lead in heal parse for game.. against teams that have clerics,shamans, and/or warden. Honestly as fury, no class really intimidates me to go about against . Like anyone though, get the right jump on me, or come at me 2 deep, goodbye Hotheals... lately hasn't mattered. because even up 520-12 means nothing when that one shot from the eq2 dev warlocks known as the TRUANCY bug hits the match and takes everyone down <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Outkasted2006

03-10-2010, 08:24 PM

<p><cite>slothmister wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well, looks like we got some inteligence on the blue servers after all!</p><p>How to play....</p><p>Tanks - TAUNT TAUNT TAUNT, forget trying to damage people, if your taunts are up USE THEM!!!</p><p>Healers - heal heal heal, tank 1st, you second (arguable) dps last.</p><p>Mages/scouts - dps dps dps, dont always follow the tank, use your head! Kill the opposing teams dps first, your tank may be target locked to their tank! Kill their lock and u win.</p><p>But most importantly, and this is something bluebies dont do enough of, tanks TAUNT, healers (yes that includes furies) HEAL.</p></blockquote><p>Ok I had to reply to this and somehow missed this as I was replying to the alst one , so deal with it... ok first off, I find, more BLUE server tanks taunt then pvp servers. and i've hardcore raided on both, and pvped on day one on naggy. That being said onto your Fury statement.</p><p>Furys' are healer that's for [Removed for Content] sure. But a fury not doing decent dps, is completely wasting his class and needs to just re-roll a warden. As previously stated, when I am leading the healing parse with a fury, and leading or at least in top 3 in kills. I am definitely satisfied with the job I am doing <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> have lost very few matches in Klak, less then ten. 2 of those were to Europa lol. i've lost less then ten matches in klak and ive ran right around 100. so winning 9 of 10 matches, i'll take all day long <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Armawk

03-10-2010, 09:28 PM

<p>Based on my limited experience and more limited skills Id say take out the biggest big guns first (unless you can stand up to repeated big hits) then healers then other DPS/utility then tanks. Obviously depends on whats going on and who is there though. In gears if a tank has the relic then I guess you have to try and burn healers off and then the tank and just try to use scenery to avoid being nuked but its hard if they are well organised.</p><p>Well played mezzers can throw you a loop though, and tend to be easy to kill so cleaning those up might be worth it early on.</p>

Armawk

03-10-2010, 09:30 PM

<p><cite>Outkasted2006 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Furys' are healer that's for [Removed for Content] sure. But a fury not doing decent dps, is completely wasting his class and needs to just re-roll a warden. As previously stated, when I am leading the healing parse with a fury, and leading or at least in top 3 in kills. I am definitely satisfied with the job I am doing <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> have lost very few matches in Klak, less then ten. 2 of those were to Europa lol. i've lost less then ten matches in klak and ive ran right around 100. so winning 9 of 10 matches, i'll take all day long <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>It seems to me that gears is a furys perfect zone, the chance to melee and heal because everyone is close in.. you guys seem to suffer badly in the more open zones though, based purely on how many I seem to kill in smugglers, would that be right?</p>

Outkasted2006

03-10-2010, 09:33 PM

<p><cite>shaunfletcher wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Outkasted2006 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Furys' are healer that's for [Removed for Content] sure. But a fury not doing decent dps, is completely wasting his class and needs to just re-roll a warden. As previously stated, when I am leading the healing parse with a fury, and leading or at least in top 3 in kills. I am definitely satisfied with the job I am doing <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> have lost very few matches in Klak, less then ten. 2 of those were to Europa lol. i've lost less then ten matches in klak and ive ran right around 100. so winning 9 of 10 matches, i'll take all day long <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>It seems to me that gears is a furys perfect zone, the chance to melee and heal because everyone is close in.. you guys seem to suffer badly in the more open zones though, based purely on how many I seem to kill in smugglers, would that be right?</p></blockquote><p>Anyone that is a melee specced fury needs to just re-roll warden <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I like distance <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I like openness. Close range , not so much. but i can handle either just fine <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Granted I am pretty well geared , 5 set pvp bonus etc <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> But I do love gears <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I havent ran smugglers <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Once I get all my tokens I need from klak i'll start doing the others more <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Armawk

03-10-2010, 09:37 PM

<p><cite>Outkasted2006 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>shaunfletcher wrote:</cite></p><p><strong>Anyone that is a melee specced fury needs to just re-roll warden</strong> <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> I like distance <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" /> I like openness. Close range , not so much. but i can handle either just fine <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> Granted I am pretty well geared , 5 set pvp bonus etc <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> But I do love gears <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> I havent ran smugglers <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> Once I get all my tokens I need from klak i'll start doing the others more <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Ah shows what I know then heh. Never did play no furry <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Yeah I think Im lucky I havent run into you.. I get my behind kicked enough as it is <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Outkasted2006

03-10-2010, 09:40 PM

<p><cite>shaunfletcher wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Outkasted2006 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>shaunfletcher wrote:</cite></p><p><strong>Anyone that is a melee specced fury needs to just re-roll warden</strong> <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> I like distance <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" /> I like openness. Close range , not so much. but i can handle either just fine <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> Granted I am pretty well geared , 5 set pvp bonus etc <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> But I do love gears <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> I havent ran smugglers <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> Once I get all my tokens I need from klak i'll start doing the others more <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Ah shows what I know then heh. Never did play no furry <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p><p>Yeah I think Im lucky I havent run into you.. I get my behind kicked enough as it is <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>What are you pvping with?</p>

Armawk

03-10-2010, 11:48 PM

<p><cite>Outkasted2006 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>What are you pvping with?</p></blockquote><p>Im not in 90 yet so I do realise a lot of my comments are probably irrelevant.</p><p>I play mostly my wizard, sometimes with my conj when my gf is in with me on her swash. The wiz does alright, am using the MC armour which definitely helps. I have a healthy kill/death ratio but Im a noob at this so its a slow process learning.. should have enough tokens for at least some of a set by the time I hit 90.</p>

Outkasted2006

03-11-2010, 12:30 AM

<p><cite>shaunfletcher wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Outkasted2006 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>What are you pvping with?</p></blockquote><p>Im not in 90 yet so I do realise a lot of my comments are probably irrelevant.</p><p>I play mostly my wizard, sometimes with my conj when my gf is in with me on her swash. The wiz does alright, am using the MC armour which definitely helps. I have a healthy kill/death ratio but Im a noob at this so its a slow process learning.. should have enough tokens for at least some of a set by the time I hit 90.</p></blockquote><p>Nice! Really sounds like you to enjoy the pvp, might want to consider giving naggy a trial <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> if you do let me know, i'll help you out a bit! Anyhow, all 3 classes i just heard about are very nice classes pvp/pve <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> very cool. Again no classes scare but conj's can hit me good <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> wizzie's as well, but again neither of them really get me to worked up . swash's can be be pesky sometimes!</p>

<p>I learned that Battlegrounds totally suck unless you are a Warlock</p>

Sprin

03-11-2010, 01:14 AM

<p><cite>Karimonster wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>3. Your stream of arrows is bugged and will say you're too far away when you're right up in their faces, but too close when you're 15 meters out. It will never work when you need it to.</p></blockquote><p>Ive done bug reports on that... SOE doesnt fix problems, they just create more, or "fix" the problems that arent really problems...</p><p>Like giving us 30 minutes to "buff" before the match starts... which takes all of 5 seconds</p>

Armawk

03-11-2010, 01:39 AM

<p><cite>Outkasted2006 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Nice! Really sounds like you to enjoy the pvp, might want to consider giving naggy a trial <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> if you do let me know, i'll help you out a bit! Anyhow, all 3 classes i just heard about are very nice classes pvp/pve <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> very cool. Again no classes scare but conj's can hit me good <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> wizzie's as well, but again neither of them really get me to worked up . swash's can be be pesky sometimes!</p></blockquote><p>Cool. Long time since we played on nagafen, used to have an assassin/brigand pair there, but thats 3 years ago, it all got too ganfesty in T2 and we stopped.</p><p>As for conj.. seems just okay in bg except for elemental blast which is ridiculous in a good way <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Outkasted2006

03-11-2010, 02:02 AM

<p>Yeah just skip right on past tier 2. I leveled up old friends who came back to one from 1 to 70 in a day <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Ralpmet

03-11-2010, 02:36 AM

<p>Just a side note;</p><p>Mages should turn auto-attack on when fighting scouts and such, keeps you facing them when you can and they can't just get at your back because you were too slow to turn around while casting.</p><p>(And whoever said hitting people with heresy is fun, I killed a pally with it earlier, he ran off and must've killed himself trying to heal back up XD)</p>

Muraazi

03-11-2010, 03:33 AM

<p><cite>Thunndar316 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I learned that Battlegrounds totally suck unless you are a Warlock</p></blockquote><p>This statement right here shows that the tides have shifted. With magic damage being what it is, I gun for this order (depending on certain people I know to be trouble) Warlock/Wizard, Enchanter, then healer. Depends on how good the enchanter is, a good illy will destroy a team with his encounter stifle (not single handedly ofcourse).</p><p>I should note that I am mostly playing my coercer (to gear up my inq) now since my inq got to 90 and can't heal a group if there is a half decent lock/wiz on the other team. It is very rare that a healer will keep up the mage while I open up on him. Again, because magic damage is the way it is atm.</p>

bks6721

03-11-2010, 04:26 AM

<p>I've learned that if I come across a good Healer my best bet is to head the other direction.</p><p>Trying to root a warden is futile.</p><p>Manashield only last 1 second against a good bruiser. I last about 1 second after that. lol</p><p>See invis/stealth potions actually have a use.</p><p>If running from 1 opponent, don't head directly towards 5 others.</p><p>Hotbar a slowfall cloak for those times someone knocks you off the center tower in SD.</p><p>If you stand still and pretend to be invisible, you're not.</p><p>Running the flag in Ganak gets the heartbeat up.</p><p>I always get a laugh when people corpse hump me.</p>

InstaCler

03-11-2010, 04:41 AM

<p>I've learned that suicide helps me get my Gears tokens more quickly when going against a pre-made group.</p><p>I've also learned that I will die in 2 seconds flat until I've got a set of toughness gear. However, by that time, I will be bored with BG and will no longer need toughness gear.</p>

bks6721

03-11-2010, 04:52 AM

<p><cite>InstaCleric wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I've learned that suicide helps me get my Gears tokens more quickly when going against a pre-made group.</p><p>I've also learned that I will die in 2 seconds flat until I've got a set of toughness gear. However, by that time, I will be bored with BG and will no longer need toughness gear.</p></blockquote><p>pre-made groups are tough. In those situations I change my goals from "winning" to "Gonna kill that Warlock at least once!"</p><p>sometimes I can, sometimes I can't but I do still have fun trying. that's how I try to get better. I've been up against some premades that turned out to be not so good as we thought they'd be. I've been against some that my team failed to score a single point.</p>

Rairine

03-11-2010, 06:47 AM

<p>I've learnt that Im not very good, well thats a lie, I knew that anyway.</p><p>But I have fun, and have seen some good players.</p><p>Now I just need to work out how a coercer should play in BGs, it seems a bit of a con that I cant get a pet to be perfectly honest.</p><p>I've also worked out that possess essence is bugged everytime I come out of a BG as I have to use concentration slots until I zone.</p>

<p style="margin-left: 6pt; margin-right: 6pt;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Verdana;"><span style="color: #3366ff;">Don't worry about faulty matchmaker stacked groups. You will be in just as many as you will face and neither will last but a few minutes. </span></span></p><p style="margin-left: 6pt; margin-right: 6pt;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Verdana;"><span style="color: #3366ff;">I would assume the range of the typical EQ2 player is 20-40. There is absolutely no reason for adolescent temper tantrums in voice chat. You may be talking to one or two people but the rest of us do not log on to have to sit through such behavior from people that should know better. Pitching a fit does not mean you want to win more, it means you do not know how to handle yourself in adversity...grow up. </span></span></p><p style="margin-left: 6pt; margin-right: 6pt;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Verdana;"><span style="color: #3366ff;">Enjoy the match. The 12 and 24 player matches seem to be getting closer in margin of victory as people get used to playing them. I won and lost last night by less than 40 points in the last minute of the game multiple times. </span></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Verdana;"><span><span><span style="color: #3366ff;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>BGs have been a nice way for players to meet other players from different servers. I am glad they set it up this way and hope it continues to be popular.</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #3366ff;"> </span></p>

Alazarz

03-11-2010, 11:49 AM

<p><cite>Albright wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Kill the healer first, mages second, dps and then tanks.</p><p>Rinse and repeat. </p></blockquote><p>"Rinse and repeat"</p><p>"Rinse and repeat"</p><p>"Rinse and repeat"</p><p>pve to NPC encounter worlds just haven't been developed enough to be as bad as that; though pve could very easily be attuned to exceed it easily enough. Pvp encounters can't do that, which will be discovered very quickly.</p></blockquote><p> Actually thats backwards..ALWAYS kill the mages FIRST..healers 2nd.. just throwing that out there..</p><p>And tanks..taunt lock healers and target a friendly..watch them die.. just sayin</p>

AziBam

03-11-2010, 01:29 PM

<p><cite>Thunndar316 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I learned that Battlegrounds totally suck unless you are a Warlock</p></blockquote><p>Lol, I learned last night on my warlock (first night in BG) to not let a swashbuckler close range on me. Bad things happen. Zerks and SKs are also good ones to keep away from.</p><p>Arrows sticking into your backside is not a good thing and can be downright annoying!</p><p>I did have a few occasions where I had a grand time decimating 4-5 opponents at once. I also learned that tanks and healers can be a real pita to kill.</p><p>I was so [Removed for Content] at myself after the first BG I joined. I realized afterwards that I had my myth clicky on making my best green AEs into single target. GAH! That didn't happen again.</p>

rareyrare

03-11-2010, 06:53 PM

<p>Loved a lot of the OP's points! here's a couple more from my perspective:</p><p>1. If you don't have VC on, even if you can only hear = FAIL</p><p>2. If you don't have your mini map up to see where the Relic/Flag/Group is = FAIL</p><p>3. If you're in Gears and you're fighting against someone on the complete other side of the zone from the relic = FAIL</p><p>4. If you're in Smuggler's and you're not fighting on the flag = FAIL</p>

Outkasted2006

03-11-2010, 09:45 PM

<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Loved a lot of the OP's points! here's a couple more from my perspective:</p><p>1. If you don't have VC on, even if you can only hear = FAIL</p><p>2. If you don't have your mini map up to see where the Relic/Flag/Group is = FAIL</p><p>3. If you're in Gears and you're fighting against someone on the complete other side of the zone from the relic = FAIL</p><p>4. If you're in Smuggler's and you're not fighting on the flag = FAIL</p></blockquote><p> 1 is very overrated. (only get on voice with guildies and good friends) don't care to listen to annoying yelling,crying, i know it all . 2, I don't use mini-map in KLAK . I do however use mini-map in other 2. 3. for the MOST part your right. 4.) very right unless your busy running 20 miles to the next stop.. </p>

Crismorn

03-11-2010, 09:56 PM

<p>The best Voice Chat conv. was some euro guy saying how we all sucked, meanwhile he was running off by himself dying to people for the entire match.</p><p>Good times</p>