I just can't deny the fun of this headline from the Drudge report today 11/16/08 from the Telegragh.co.U.K. about Nasa screwing up the temperature reading for October and Al Gores chief scientist claiming that this Last October was the warmest on Record based on temperature readings form Russia. **They got it wrong because they simply carried over the temp readings from previous months and the reality is we are experiencing colder temps and early snow falls in several places around the world. I know that the telegragh reporters are just corporate whores and right wing hacks(I thought I would save time here by making the accustion myself as a courtesy to my global warming believing friends out there) but this is just typical of the "debate is over" attitude of the people who believe in manmade global warming. See for yourself, go to The Drudge Report, he simply links to the news its not his report. Or look up the Telegragh from the U.K.Please look into all aspects of this debate out there. The research is not done, its not conclusive and the debate is definitely not over. Now for real, see you later.

I know, I keep coming back but it just gets better and better! The group used for the false stats on October Temps is one of four groups used to generate stats for the famed I.P.P.C. united nations report. So Please MattJ, look at this report with an open mind go to the Telegragh website and look at this information. Just try to have an open mind. Remember it was highlighted on the Drudge Report on 11/16/08 and it concerned a report on Nasa getting global warming statistics wrong. I mention this again for people who read the last post first.

Once again, having scanned the article further the chairman of the I.P.P.C. was caught making inaccurate statements about the rise of global temperatures his name is Dr. Pachauri( he is in the article so you can and should look at it on your own to make up your own mind) It also mentions that Al Gores Scientist, the leader of the modern movement was mistaken as well. It is odd how things work out sometimes. Are these guys right wing hacks or corporate whores or are they just wrong? What do you think Kimo2007, Mattj and Cord?

cord wrote: ...Anyway, good luck plotting against Obama or your local university or whatever else it is you have lined up for the day, it certainly has been interesting reading your views.

Geez Cord, I think your just [censored] because you couldn't vote for him. Don't worry though, in a couple years the U.K will likely get the chance to elect a Pakistani-muslim PM. I'm sure you'll be first in line to vote for him.

You are very close to sounding like some kind of ignorant racist. I trust you can explain your little comment?

bcihak -

I'm not going to waste time debunking more of your right-wing BS sources. Find me something that is NOT obviously and blatantly partisan, and I'll consider it. Until then, all you have is obfuscation and picking pepper out of flysh1t, which I will ignore. The vast majority of scientists - not just climate scientists - agree that Global Warming seems to be real, and that man-made activities are having an impact on it.

Again, when you can show me something comparable to the IPCC report that refutes it, you will have my attention.

*holds breath*

_________________________"In case you ever wondered what it's like to be knocked out, it's like waking up from a nightmare only to discover it wasn't a dream." -Forrest Griffin

Are you kidding MattJ. The article in the Telegragh today, Sunday november 16, 2008 specifically sites errors in the I.P.P.C. report and mentions that the chairman of the I.P.P.C. was caught making inaccurate statements about the global warming statistics. And you won't take a look? Please, before you wave that report around again you might want to check your sources because when you look around for information about global warming opinions there are more than your 1000 scientists who are skeptical or at least curious at some level. Like I said before, the debate is not over and your report is not the last word on the subject. Bill

Quote:Well if it isn't the standard battle-cry of the garden variety, hypocritical, politically-correct bully.

There was nothing ignorant or racist about my remark. Grow a thicker skin. Big baby.

Politically correct? Clearly you don't know me very well. Why would you bring up nationality and religion to Cord? Oh, right. Because you are a right-wing piece of sh1t racist. How's that for politically incorrect? Get bent.

bcihak -

Quote:Please, before you wave that report around again you might want to check your sources because when you look around for information about global warming opinions there are more than your 1000 scientists who are skeptical or at least curious at some level. Like I said before, the debate is not over and your report is not the last word on the subject.

I never said it WAS over, sweetheart. Finding one or two mistakes in a giant, 10 year, peer-reviewed repot doesn't invalidate the whole thing. You are picking pepper out of flysh1t as I mentioned before. It is the best and most objective report to date, unless you know of a comparab......oh the hell with it. You know!

_________________________"In case you ever wondered what it's like to be knocked out, it's like waking up from a nightmare only to discover it wasn't a dream." -Forrest Griffin