My point is that if you would rather not get that error when J changes,
you need to use explicit import lists:
Module M
import I (foo)
import J ()
definitioninModuleM = foo
Lennart's proposed change makes explicit import lists unnecessary for
the case where foo is defined inside M rather than being imported from I
- but as it doesn't avoid the need for them in general I'm not sure that
it is worth it.
Ganesh
From: Manuel M T Chakravarty [mailto:chak at cse.unsw.edu.au]
Sent: 25 July 2012 10:25
To: Sittampalam, Ganesh
Cc: Lennart Augustsson; Haskell Prime
Subject: Re: Proposal: Scoping rule change
"Sittampalam, Ganesh" <ganesh.sittampalam at credit-suisse.com>:
The "... foo ..." in my example was intended to show that module
M does look up 'foo'.
I did read that as foo is both defined and used in the body. In that
case, everything should work just fine.
If you use, but do not define foo, then you definitely want to get an
error if J exports foo in the future. So, I think, that is fine.
Manuel
From: Manuel M T Chakravarty [mailto:chak at cse.unsw.edu.au
<http://cse.unsw.edu.au> ]
Sent: 25 July 2012 08:26
To: Sittampalam, Ganesh
Cc: Lennart Augustsson; Haskell Prime
Subject: Re: Proposal: Scoping rule change
If Lennart's suggestion is combined with GHC's lazy checking for
name clashes (i.e., only check if you ever look a name up in a
particular scope), it would also work in your example.
Manuel
"Sittampalam, Ganesh" <ganesh.sittampalam at credit-suisse.com
<mailto:ganesh.sittampalam at credit-suisse.com> >:
If you're using unqualified and unrestricted imports,
there's still the risk that another module will export something you
care about, e.g.
module M where
import I -- currently exports foo
import J -- might be changed in future to export foo
... foo ...
So I think you need to use import lists or qualified
anyway to avoid any risk of future name clashes - given that, does this
change buy much?
From: haskell-prime-bounces at haskell.org
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[mailto:haskell-prime-bounces at haskell.org
<mailto:prime-bounces at haskell.org> ] On Behalf Of Lennart Augustsson
Sent: 24 July 2012 02:29
To: Haskell Prime
Subject: Proposal: Scoping rule change
It's not often that one gets the chance to change
something as
fundamental as the scoping rules of a language.
Nevertheless, I would
like to propose a change to Haskell's scoping rules.
The change is quite simple. As it is, top level
entities in a module
are in the same scope as all imported entities. I
suggest that this
is changed to that the entities from the module are in
an inner scope
and do not clash with imported identifiers.
Why? Consider the following snippet
module M where
import I
foo = True
Assume this compiles. Now change the module I so it
exports something
called foo. After this change the module M no longer
compiles since
(under the current scoping rules) the imported foo
clashes with the
foo in M.
Pros: Module compilation becomes more robust under
library changes.
Fewer imports with hiding are necessary.
Cons: There's the chance that you happen to define a
module identifier
with the same name as something imported. This will
typically lead to
a type error, but there is a remote chance it could have
the same
type.
Implementation status: The Mu compiler has used the
scoping rule for
several years now and it works very well in practice.
-- Lennart
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