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Re: Trade Billy Hamilton + other prospects for Justin Upton?

They will ask for Hamilton. The Reds should say no. He's their top prospect, he's not blocked and he's exactly what this lineup needs, a leadoff hitting CF. He could even be ready early in 2013. Don't think for one second that I'm not drooling thinking about an OF of Upton, Hamilton and Bruce. I think Cozart + Leake doesn't get you hung up on but I do think it would take two significant prospects on top of that to get it done. Even then, I think it would be a "we'll let you know" on Arizona's part to see if they could get Tampa to come off of one of their stud pitchers

Re: Trade Billy Hamilton + other prospects for Justin Upton?

For you guys who have followed Upton, how much of an offensive upgrade would he be over Ludwig based on last season? Also, I know he could be the long-term LF answer (and the Reds don't really appear to have one of those reasonably close in the minors), but is he a good cost/benefit player for the Reds future? I'm not implying any answer here, I'm honestly asking the questions.

Re: Trade Billy Hamilton + other prospects for Justin Upton?

Billy Hamilton has to be untouchable.. heck the Reds have gone years without a legit leadoff hitter.. now everybody wants to trade him?? Not me!.. Let him play CF and bat leadoff in 2013 and get rid of Stubbs.. talk about a threat at leadoff this team hasnt seen in years!!!

Re: Trade Billy Hamilton + other prospects for Justin Upton?

Originally Posted by rgslone

For you guys who have followed Upton, how much of an offensive upgrade would he be over Ludwig based on last season? Also, I know he could be the long-term LF answer (and the Reds don't really appear to have one of those reasonably close in the minors), but is he a good cost/benefit player for the Reds future? I'm not implying any answer here, I'm honestly asking the questions.

He should hit at GABP even if he hasn't as a visitor but his .731 career road OPS is a red flag but he is still young and has worlds of talent buts its no doubt a gamble hoping it clicks away from Chase Field.

Re: Trade Billy Hamilton + other prospects for Justin Upton?

I am pretty sure Billy Hamilton is one the highest profile prospects in the game right now, and Profar is a STUD, but he's not in the same league as Harper...

I mean, The Rangers won't trade Andrus for Upton, so that sets the market and IMO Cozart should look really enticing for Kevin Towers...

Profar will likely be #1 overall prospect in this years Top-100, he is a SS who can do it all on the field. Just because a team doesn't want to give up a All-Star SS or the top prospect in baseball doesn't mean the D-Backs will just give Upton away for a 27yo SS who has yet to prove he can hit in the majors.

Re: Trade Billy Hamilton + other prospects for Justin Upton?

Originally Posted by HometownHero

Profar will likely be #1 overall prospect in this years Top-100, he is a SS who can do it all on the field. Just because a team doesn't want to give up a All-Star SS or the top prospect in baseball doesn't mean the D-Backs will just give Upton away for a 27yo SS who has yet to prove he can hit in the majors.

To add to what you are saying here, Arizona added Cliff Pennington this offseason as well. Cozart is an upgrade over him but I'd rather have Upton-Pennington than Cozart-Leake-Pennington

Re: Trade Billy Hamilton + other prospects for Justin Upton?

Originally Posted by rgslone

For you guys who have followed Upton, how much of an offensive upgrade would he be over Ludwig based on last season? Also, I know he could be the long-term LF answer (and the Reds don't really appear to have one of those reasonably close in the minors), but is he a good cost/benefit player for the Reds future? I'm not implying any answer here, I'm honestly asking the questions.

Depends really. Ludwick seemed to almost come back to form last season after a long stint of being bad.

The big draw with Upton is that he's only 25. Has great power, great speed, great defense. A true 5 star player. Even his "off seasons" he's still producing.

The main hope is that Upton can turn on that extra gear, and become a perennial 30-40 HR, 120+ RBI, 30+ steal MVP, Gold Glove caliber guy.

Re: Trade Billy Hamilton + other prospects for Justin Upton?

Depends really. Ludwick seemed to almost come back to form last season after a long stint of being bad.

The big draw with Upton is that he's only 25. Has great power, great speed, great defense. A true 5 star player. Even his "off seasons" he's still producing.

The main hope is that Upton can turn on that extra gear, and become a perennial 30-40 HR, 120+ RBI, 30+ steal MVP, Gold Glove caliber guy.

Because he is truly talented, but needs a little push I guess.

To add to what you're saying, in Arizona, they are expecting him to be "the man" well here in Cincinnati Votto is the man, and the 2nd "Man" Bruce so all J Upton has to do is slide in that 4 hole and then the Reds have the Offensive Protection for Votto at #3 and this team turns the corner on Production.... IF, and I mean a HUGE IF they get a legit lead-off hitter...

I think they just need to swallow the Red Pill and Sign Bourn... Chances are Hamilton won't be ready until 2014 and won't be an IMPACT bat until 2015/2016 so Bourn allows you to bring Hamilton along and Bat him 2nd when he first comes up, then my friends you have Votto-Upton-Bruce behind Bourn and Hamilton... Plus, by replacing Stubbs with Bourn you don't lose anything Defensively...

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