The left's belief in imaginary obstruction statutes is entirely delusional.

so you're claiming that all the republican senators who voted to impeach bill Clinton for obstruction of justice were delusional because those grounds were delusional? You are aware that makes you sound delusional?

so you're claiming that all the republican senators who voted to impeach bill Clinton for obstruction of justice were delusional because those grounds were delusional?

No. There is actually an obstruction statute that says it was against the law for Bill Clinton to send Betty Curry out to hide evidence from the Starr investigation.

What is imaginary is an obstruction statute that makes it against the law for the official who is in charge of an investigation to decide that the investigation should not be pursued.

Although as a side note, since the Democrats said it was OK for Bill Clinton to commit real actual obstruction, had Trump committed real actual obstruction, he would be above the law too.

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Sun 11 Feb, 2018 10:24 pm

@MontereyJack,

More nonsense. Because Bill Clinton didn't get whAt YOU think he deserved hS bsolutely no legal bearing on whatever hzppens to Trump..The lawgets restrted every time someone is accused of breaking it. It's eually valid every new time. nd s usual you're missing the point on firing. It's legal to own a gun. It's l,egal to fire a gun. But if you do those two perfectly legal ativities to murder someone, it's still a felony. Actions hve consequence. If Trump fires Mueller that is questionably legal, but that legal action can still result in obstruction of justice, just like owning and firing a sun, legl activites, can still get you the electric chair. And if he triew it, he's gonna precipitate a political firestorm and constitutional crisis he will not win.

More nonsense. Because Bill Clinton didn't get whAt YOU think he deserved hS bsolutely no legal bearing on whatever hzppens to Trump..The lawgets restrted every time someone is accused of breaking it. It's eually valid every new time.

I realize the Democrats would love to place themselves above the law while still holding everyone else accountable, but no one is going to let them get away with that.

Since it was OK for Bill Clinton to break the law, it's also OK for Republican Presidents to break the law.

MontereyJack wrote:

nd s usual you're missing the point on firing. It's legal to own a gun. It's l,egal to fire a gun. But if you do those two perfectly legal ativities to murder someone, it's still a felony. Actions hve consequence. If Trump fires Mueller that is questionably legal,

There is no question at all. The Constitution gives Trump absolute power to fire any person in the executive branch of the US government for any reason he wants.

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but that legal action can still result in obstruction of justice, just like owning and firing a sun, legl activites, can still get you the electric chair.

It is rather a stretch to begin with to suggest that it could be obstruction for the official in charge of an investigation to decide not to pursue it. Officials decide not to pursue investigations every day in America.

But if it were ever obstruction of justice for the President to exercise his presidential powers, the obstruction statute would be instantly unconstitutional and invalid. The Constitution trumps any statute.

And since the courts are required to interpret the law in a manner that does not violate the Constitution if it is possible to do so, the odds of any court interpreting the obstruction statute in a manner that interferes with Trump's ability to exercise his constitutional powers, are exactly zero.

MontereyJack wrote:

And if he triew it, he's gonna precipitate a political firestorm and constitutional crisis he will not win.

Trump has the Constitution on his side. I know the Democrats would love to overthrow our Constitution, but no one is going to let them do that.