tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29222764.post406045222643989440..comments2019-08-29T06:43:01.320-07:00Comments on The Lyon's Tale: The Debate ContinuesAnnette Lyonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12493583432919249814noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29222764.post-10728774308933638202008-07-24T12:06:00.000-07:002008-07-24T12:06:00.000-07:00Wow. This is all very eye-opening to me. I hadn'...Wow. This is all very eye-opening to me. I hadn't realized that there was a debate-- or that it mattered much! Ha! So... yeah. Interesting stuff. <BR/><BR/>But mostly, you've intrigued me with your scandal! Ooooh, I LOVE that you offended someone ! (Is that weird...?) I wanna know all about it.Brillighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13694582598855276158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29222764.post-81270905581936375312008-07-23T20:52:00.000-07:002008-07-23T20:52:00.000-07:00Michelle, I think the spec. fiction market is star...Michelle, I think the spec. fiction market is starting to open up a little bit, but you're right; it's a tough nut to crack. <BR/><BR/>And no, Zarahemla, Signature, and the aren't all bad. They've both published a lot of good books that simply wouldn't have had an outlet anywhere else (one example would be Douglas Thayer's work--he's considered by some to be the father of LDS literature and isn't "liberal" or "offensive"). <BR/><BR/>But if you're concerned about running into potentially offensive material, you're safer staying with the houses that simply don't go there, like DB and Covenant.Annette Lyonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12493583432919249814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29222764.post-69482014105989569172008-07-23T18:12:00.000-07:002008-07-23T18:12:00.000-07:00I write speculative fiction. Full of action, bad g...I write speculative fiction. Full of action, bad guys, angst, a little romance and life lessons. These stories are my love... my babies perse. <BR/>My desire is to be published and my desired realm is the LDS market because I want to write clean fiction. <BR/>This is where I run into a problem. The more conservative LDS publishers don't publish spec fiction, they say theres no market. While I see that there is very few Scifi Spec fic. published in the realm, I wonder why. I know there are readers out there that would buy a good clean spec, fic work. I also know writers that write good, clean work. Where is an author like me supposed to go? <BR/>Last thought, are pub. like Zarehemla that bad? <BR/><BR/>Michelle<BR/><BR/>HMMMMMM.........Michellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11959637456903210462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29222764.post-15946262922088753272008-07-23T11:05:00.000-07:002008-07-23T11:05:00.000-07:00Tristi, that's sort of what I was thinking. Not su...Tristi, that's sort of what I was thinking. Not sure how to implement it, though.<BR/><BR/>Happy face, The good news is that LDS bookstores don't generally carry the more liberal stuff. You're pretty safe picking up stuff from Seagull or DB. But it's also good to be aware of the more fringe publishers so you can make more educated decisions.Annette Lyonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12493583432919249814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29222764.post-15990528292635537322008-07-23T10:44:00.000-07:002008-07-23T10:44:00.000-07:00tristi's cookbook comment is great. i would hate ...tristi's cookbook comment is great. i would hate to pick up one of the LDS books expecting something and find sex scene pages in it. it would be like bait and switch ... a trick. like tristi said, getting a cookbook when you expecting something else.<BR/><BR/>thanks for coming by. always a pleasure to hear from you.<BR/><BR/>great day to ya, kathleen :)sogratefultobemormon.wordpress.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13141321969690842348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29222764.post-59623552722492195812008-07-23T10:39:00.000-07:002008-07-23T10:39:00.000-07:00This is why I've been a proponent of genre terms. ...This is why I've been a proponent of genre terms. I don't have a problem with someone publishing a book with LDS characters who aren't necessarily acting LDS as long as I know what to expect from the book. I'd prefer to see it given a different genre term. It's like, picking up a book that's labeled a romance and getting a cookbook instead. If I want a romance, I should get a romance. If I want a cookbook, I should get a cookbook. We all have the right to choose what we want to write and what we want to read, but I'd like to see genre terms more clearly outlined so we all get what we want.Tristi Pinkstonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12122250747480013804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29222764.post-10956173810200015182008-07-23T09:32:00.000-07:002008-07-23T09:32:00.000-07:00I liked what Alison said above though. You can't m...I liked what Alison said above though. You can't make people conform to such-and-such, but on the other hand, you don't have to buy it either! Money talks to authors too.<BR/><BR/>That said, it is very disappointing to pick up a book of LDS fiction and find values so out of the way of LDS values. Others, not of the LDS faith, believe it to represent the LDS faith. For that reason, there are publishers that I am skittish of buying from unless I hear a good review from a trusted source. (From someone that I trust their literary critiques.)Happy facehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02512647913767303288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29222764.post-51238854481195221612008-07-23T02:58:00.000-07:002008-07-23T02:58:00.000-07:00hi annette ~ thanks for sharing your insight. whe...hi annette ~ thanks for sharing your insight. when i reach for LDS books, i expect to not be embarrassed by anything i read inside. kathleen :)sogratefultobemormon.wordpress.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13141321969690842348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29222764.post-60258105684577838672008-07-23T00:05:00.000-07:002008-07-23T00:05:00.000-07:00Interesting. I guess I haven't really thought abo...Interesting. I guess I haven't really thought about it much before. Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29222764.post-44143548716100621072008-07-22T21:46:00.000-07:002008-07-22T21:46:00.000-07:00You expressed this so well, Annette. It gets a bi...You expressed this so well, Annette. It gets a bit silly, this need to label and call names, but I guess that's how our minds work.<BR/><BR/>It's a bit odd to be reading these posts and thinking about my own work and wondering how it might be categorized if it ever came under public scrutiny.<BR/><BR/>Very thought-provoking.Kimberlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01653757517652257445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29222764.post-903095123792015712008-07-22T21:40:00.000-07:002008-07-22T21:40:00.000-07:00I love your comment about supporting the fiction w...I love your comment about supporting the fiction we love and the writers we enjoy reading. In the end, that might be the only way this "debate" is solved. People will buy what they want to read and if the potentially offensive books sell as well as the very conservative books among the LDS population, that might be the answer right there. (I'm still trying to figure out what was offensive in your books :)Stephanie Humphreyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13553998075443712084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29222764.post-32705807812895877122008-07-22T20:47:00.000-07:002008-07-22T20:47:00.000-07:00I certainly have not been a part of this debate bu...I certainly have not been a part of this debate but I think I'd put it where I put the term Mormon. I'm willing to consider anyone Mormon who calls themself (him or herself) Mormon. Jack-Mormon, Gay, Temple worthy or not. If someone wants the label Mormon, I'm willing to go with it.<BR/>I'd put LDS fiction in that same boat. If you as a writer call it LDS good on you! I am LDS but my novel is definitely not LDS fiction. I don't really think that makes it evil or immoral but I wouldn't consider it LDS so it's not.Alison Wonderlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15764321314666554990noreply@blogger.com