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Doughty Will Have Major Role

Even if Chris Horton starts at strong safety, Reed Doughty is expected to play a major role on defense and special teams.

"He's always been a [John] Havlicek for us," defensive coordinator Greg Blache said. "He has no problem coming off the bench, being that sixth guy, making plays, helping win ballgames, without having to a starter. The one thing we talk about here, in this day and age in the National Football League, your starters are just the first 11 guys that run out on the field. It doesn't mean that they're necessarily the most intricate portion of your whole football team. You can't function without the Reed Doughtys ... because nobody can play the whole game.

"It's not like when guys could come and play the game from start to finish at all positions. It's such a physical game that you have to have a lot of people, even on that second level and on special teams. Reed has always been a dynamic special-teams player for us. He comes in on our 'Cobra' package [three safeties] ... there are packages that we'll have Reed on the field that'll help us match up. He's a true professional. ... He's had a good camp, and we're expecting a big year from Reed. And one thing about our business, you're one play away from being a starter."

"The fact remains that Carlos was our third best corner last year and doesn't belong on anyone's top 10 list. I'm okay with the fact that we threw $ at DHall because he's a better player than Carlos. So was a healthy Shawn Springs, as Bill Belichick would tell you.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz"

The fact remains that Carlos Rogers IS on 2 Top 10 lists from last year from football analysts paid for their opinion, that both of the supposed 'better' CBs were cut in the last year while Rogers remained a steady presence, that Rogers received more starts and snaps than either of the 'better' CBs for the #4 defense, that the Redskins actually have a winning record when Carlos Rogers starts (surprise!) and a losing record when he does not, and that when the 'better' CBs were starting over him the defense let up 47 pts against CIN and SF (two teams that finished up worse overall than the Redskins).

And I'm okay with Hall getting paid as well. Not because he's better than Rogers (which he isn't), but because this defense will be nasty with 2 top-level corners.

the Redskins actually have a winning record when Carlos Rogers starts (surprise!) and a losing record when he does not...

Posted by: psps23

Wow. How did I miss that? Carlos Rogers -- he of the 6 career INT's in 4 years and appearances on 2 websites' top ten lists -- is actually the single most important piece to the Redskins puzzle. Forget signing O-linemen. Gimme 11 Carlos Rogers!!!

I'm a bit concerned that so far we've only got one post on the all-important 'Is Carlos Rogers Really Elite?' debate. I fully expected to see at least four long posts on the subject in every thread for the next three days. You people are falling down on the job. If you're not going to attack or defend Carlos, then who can we count on to do it?

I need help with Greg Blache.{please}
I'm not sold on GBlache's schemes. He doesn't get pressure on the Qb, because his front guys and blitz guys have hole responsibility they can't waver on and this tends to tame the rush.

We currently have a head coach who has both offensive coordinator (playcalling) and head coaching experience……

Posted by: dlhaze1

And where was this? What NFL team, because that's what matters. Playcalling at the NFL level, professional, creme de la creme and what not. Not some amateur no-name hole in the wall freakin' school that a dude with a D+ average in H.S. has never heard of.

And where was this? What NFL team, because that's what matters. Playcalling at the NFL level, professional, creme de la creme and what not. Not some amateur no-name hole in the wall freakin' school that a dude with a D+ average in H.S. has never heard of.

We currently have a head coach who has both offensive coordinator (playcalling) and head coaching experience……
Posted by: dlhaze1

And where was this? What NFL team, because that's what matters. Playcalling at the NFL level, professional, creme de la creme and what not. Not some amateur no-name hole in the wall freakin' school that a dude with a D+ average in H.S. has never heard of.
Posted by: RedDMV | August 19, 2009 4:38 PM

Ummm….the Redskins. My point to all the folks who are whining about hiring a guy with no OC or HC experience is that those points no longer stand. Sure, when he was hired by Snyder he didn’t have those bullet points on his resume, but he does now……

"I need help with Greg Blache.{please}
I'm not sold on GBlache's schemes. He doesn't get pressure on the Qb, because his front guys and blitz guys have hole responsibility they can't waver on and this tends to tame the rush. Posted by: Rando"

I think you have a point based on last year, but not before. In Chicago he had arguably the best pressure defense in the NFL for several years running. Pressure defenses usually don't score quite as high on other defensive measures as the more containment-oriented schemes. But Chicago did extremely well, and won a number of games because of TOs produced by the defense.

Before last season, Blache said in the press that he aimed to simplify the Greg Williams model so players could be more instinctive and quicker to react. Last year was the result. I thought the squad could have benefited from some trickery, but you can't argue with Blache's overall results. That was far from the most talented defense in the NFL, but it was one of the most effective.

But they lacked pass rushers. Once the Jason experiment tanked, he was left with nobody to rush the passer, and adjusted his tactics accordingly. I'm pretty confident he was more than happy with Snyder's offseason acquisitions, and with the return of Phil Daniels, one of the toughest ends in the league.

The mere fact that you're basing your argument (multiple times) on his number of INTs shows just how elementary your argument is.

Do yourself a favor. Go list the top CBs in the league in terms of INTs last season, then correlate that to the ranking of their defenses. Here, I'll start it off for you. These are all the guys with more than 4 INTs on the season, in order from most INTs at the top:

But go on. Continue harping that INTs are what makes a great CB. You've done a hell of a job so far.

Posted by: psps23

I'll take INT's as a better measure of effectiveness than the number of snaps and top ten list appearances. But hey, if top ten list float your boat, have fun with it. Maybe you can cite some power ranking lists while you're at it.

It appears that the Redskins fan base is partially comprised of a group of "football geniuses". These football academicians are obviously wasting their lives in their current jobs!

Moreover, I think they are wasting their time even posting here because the rest of us fans are just not smart enough to understand how terrible the Redskins are for eternity!

In order to save these football geniuses' time, I suggest we all admit the following principles so to free the football geniuses to perform other scholarly football activity.

Summary of Redskin Football Status per RFKROX and other super-smart and negative posters:

1) Redskins are the worst team in the NFL forever.
2) Redskins need a new owner, a new general manager, a new head coach, a
new set of offensive and defensive coaches. They need a new QB, A new offensive line, a new set of recievers and tight ends. Redskins also need a new set of defensive players, plus a new stadium in a new city.

3) Unless #2 above is accomplished, the Redskins will have horrible seasons forever.

4) Redskins are worst than all other NFL teams

5) All other NFL teams have better owners, coaches and players

6) Anybody who ever hope that the Redskins will have any success is devoid of any football acumen.

As the representative for football-dumb Redskins fans, I admit that above information is forever true. We worship the ground where the football geniuses consume large amounts of brew daily.

Based on the above admission, I ask the football geniuses not to waste their time on these boards anymore. They should start consulting other fan bases and enlighten them on a daily basis regarding how inadequate their teams are. Redskins are a lost cause, so why bother?

We have also asked the Redskins gestapo to stop holding a gun to people's head to force them be a Redskins fan.

Effective immediately, all football geniuses are thereby relieved from their state-sponsored duties to be a Redskins fan. This is true, I am not kidding. Nobody is going to be sued if they stop being Redskins fan. Moreover, people are also free not to watch the games on TV or go the stadium!! I am absolutely not making this up guys!

You all have the freedom to adore Wade Phillips and Tom Brady. Hell, you guys can even date them, both, at the same time. Feel free to take along your family too!

Smooooot on the other hand is lucky. He need to stop running his mouth and stop smoking them damn cigarettes. He will be cut soon, now he can probably get back to that level he was at when he left the first time with work, but its almost over for him.

i don't care about the carlos rogers debate all i want to say is shawn springs will not play in 10 games this season, he could be bill belichicks wet dream for all i know and it doesn't matter because he will not play in more than 10 games

i don't care about the carlos rogers debate all i want to say is shawn springs will not play in 10 games this season, he could be bill belichicks wet dream for all i know and it doesn't matter because he will not play in more than 10 games

Posted by: drewkinnear | August 19, 2009 6:09 PM | Report abuse

I saw him outside a night club on 18th street downtown DC when leaving and yes he smokes cigs???