I wonder, if Ryusouger bombs, and the rumors are right and its a last attempt to keep Sentai relevant, i'm actually super curious what Hasbro would do, obviously they still have a few seasons to work with, but after those, would they start making New, Original seasons?

And if they did, would Toei try to pull a Saban and re-purpose the new american show footage to make a quick buck with under the Super Sentai moniker? Would change it from "Super" Sentai to some other descriptor to keep the familiarity but having them as distinct entities?

More importantly, would the Japanese toys of the adaptation still be better than the American ones?

>>17040245Given Hasbro only rates PR as an 'emerging brand' instead of a full-on 'franchise brand', they may well let it die off if there's no Sentai any more. Why risk that massive extra investment if it's not guaranteed to return on them, eh?

>>17040305Either Omori, Tsukada, or someone new. Given LuPat's performance, I can't see Utsunomiya going a second year in a row, not that Sentai's had a producer go for multiple years in a row since the rotation started in 2008.

>>17040330Considering Mochizuki's doing that drama now, it's almost certainly got to be Tsukada then, unless it's a newbie, which no one can really predict until it happens.

Supposedly Omori said he was going to take a break after Build, which makes sense considering he did two Rider shows in a row. He could've changed his mind, but if we take him at his word, Tsukada is the only option we know of, and it is conspicuous, given that he recently left the medical drama he was working on just last year, the show that he'd been on since after he did Fourze.

>>17040392I don't think there's been anything on how long the series is supposed to be, but it's been slated for a Spring 2019 release. So he may not have time or simply may not want his attention taken away from an original project.

>>17041443The Lupins getting Splash and Siren was 100% a Bandai demand. Maybe it could have been avoided if the teams had actually been fighting and swapping vehicles so kids already wanted to collect them all, but it's pretty clear as it stood that there was a sales gap between the Pats and Lupins that made Bandai think they could salvage some of the numbers if they made everything Lupins-only going forward.

>>17041500I brought this up in the last thread, but the biggest problem with LuPat's toyline is that the basic arm-swapping gimmick is all there is. Good Cool Kaiser VSX is the only upgrade in the entire show that's anything but an arm swap or head swap on the same core body. Even if you collect all the VS Vehicles, and I have in minipla form, you can't use the vast majority of them together. You can put three vehicles on Goodie, two more on the Magnum, and then the other nine are just sitting there doing nothing. This is an absurd number of spare parts, way more than even Gaoranger, which had four more animals than you could actually use at once. If Victory and Siren were actually Strikers that could combine with the other three auxiliary vehicles of their respective types, then you would have a lot more play value.

>>17041538And they stripped out all the weirder aspects of the show (talking sentient cars, pollution based monsters) it would be hard to do that if the entire show including the Ranger designs are the weirder aspects.

>>17041664I don't think they will. This mistake to this degree is uniquely LuPat. There's been other seasons where you had leftover parts, like Ninnin and Kyu have some, but it's like three or four leftover parts in what is otherwise a large array of complete robots. The worst offender before this was ToQ Rainbow, which didn't use at least 50-60% of the mass of the trains, but it did use parts from all the trains, and if you stuck to Cho Cho ToQ Daioh and Hyper Teioh you would only have Police, Fire and Shield left over. LuPat is the only season to have so few complete robots and so many spare parts, and I would be surprised if they did it again.

>>17041455Well if the Lupins are popular with the people then there really is no helping it. Because this season ultimately is based on the phamtom thief genre and that genre relies on the police never catching or figuring out the identity of the phantom thieves. So Nips by and large are already aware of what will happen before it happens. But the writers are still pretending that they haven't figured it out yet.

>>17041532They can cut the dickzord scene and nothing of value will be lost. Plus, nothing stops them from copying Sentai and making the team kids turned older, well other than the extremely narrow pool of kiwi children who can say their lines and not sound like they're reciting a mother's day poem in a school act.

>>17040330It's gotta be Omori. Build and Ex-Aid were both hits for Toei and although their "give Sentai to a Rider producer" thing didn't work with Go-Busters or Ninninger, he's had a lot more experience crafting successful shows for Toei.

>>17040862>mfw seeing the kunoichi missile in action for the first timeThis show is fun as fuck and I'm loving it. Any other Sentai or Tokusatsu that are like this in terms of tone? Showa or Heisei, it doesn't matter.

>>17042524Bad play factor is known to have impacted the sales of Sentai toys in the past, such as with Gosei Ultimate being a standalone brick that didn't have useful interactions with any of the existing toyline. If the kids aren't playing with most of the LuPat toys they've already got, because they can't play with them all at once, what motivation do parents have to get them more?

>>17042749Sentai toys are too rigid in their transformations and combinations. Kids want to be creative and create their own combinations. They want to go beyond what is shown on the TV show, but sentai designs needlessly limit your combination possibilities. LuPat toys are the worse. you can swap arms and choose between 4 possible heads, but that's it. If the entire line had been designed more like Magic and Splash, each vehicle having it's own head and chest piece, I think the line would've been more popular. Bandai needs to embrace a new design aesthetic in Sentai design or use a more creative approach like their Mugenbine toy line.

>>17042876I doubt the intention was to focus more on one than the other. But if the toy-buying (or toy-demanding-from-parents, I guess) audience respond better to one than the other, and sales aren't stellar these days in general, you reevaluate your priorities sharpish.

>>17042881Not necessarily if it sold well, but the way things were, it was unfortunately unavoidable in hindsight. This is Bandai just making poor toyline decisions and backpedaling when it inevitably blew up.

I love LuPat but I’ll admit this season is literally one big pile of wasted potential. There’s so much stuff you can with having two different teams at once. It’s also a shame that we might never get something like this ever again.

>>17043051I don't expect that to change too much. Being a brick is what makes Sentai robots Sentai robots, but where they once stood alone, they now have new competition with Korean kids shows like Tobot, DinoCore and Biklonz, who offer greater articulation and better design. Bandai doesn't have to look any further than the tip of it's nose to place the blame on sagging toy sales.

>>17043198It's not like the toys couldn't have better articulation, because every year Bandai puts out minipla versions of the exact same designs, with all the same transformations and combinations, that have all the joints the DX toys are missing.

>>17043198>>17043207Lack of articulation would be fine if the toys had some sense of power and presence. Daizyujin, Dairenoh, Muteki Shogun put the aesthetic and power of the combined form first. Most sentai mechas these days end up looking slapped together and having too many colors and then the substitutions and combinations make them look even worse.

>>17043644The red is basically Takaharu but even more annoying (Has a fantastic finale bit though), they give next to no time to Hammy, Sparda, and Raptor, Garu is basically relegated to telling Lucky what an amazing guy he is and how amazing he is and that everyone should realize how amazing he is, they spend so much time developing Stinger when he's incredibly boring and his actor makes him boring as well, and the last third or so feels very rushed in terms of trying to solve all the floating plot points.

It's not a show I would ever watch again, Naga, Balance, Kotaro, Champ, Tsurugi, and Shao were the parts that kept me interested and enjoying it whereas everything else wasn't.

>>17043672It's not exactly like that, there's not one big fuck up at that point, it's just when all the little things start to go really wrong. The interesting character storylines are done and dusted, most of the cast are sidelined for good, it brings in some fucking terrible resolutions to the Prof. Anton and Lucky's Dad storylines, the final act is a clusterfuck of dumb ideas, and there's some really crap stand-alone episodes peppered throughout to make it even worse. What good faith it builds up between eps 10 and 30 is pissed away.

>>17043854>even more annoying than TakaharuStopped reading right there. At least the others on the Kyuranger team existed. Takaharu and friends was all Ninninger turned out to be for near 3/4 of the series, except for PARTY NIGHT.

>>17043875>At least the others on the Kyuranger team existed.After the Kakuranger teamup they basically shoved Takaharu into a corner constantly calling him an idiot and they worked with his actor to work it out. He wasn't shouting his catchphrase as much and eventually barely at all, and he found a decent middleground where he could at least act somewhat heroic without being completely grating. Don't forget Yakumo and Kasumi got so many more focus episodes out of nowhere. I'm not saying Takaharu was good at all.

Lucky is "YOSSHA LUCKY" all the time, his plot points all basically revolve around being lucky to the point that the final battle even has him riding down on a meteor mirroring the first episode, he's the only one who seems to ever get the big speeches, and then you have Garu and even Hammy saying how amazing he is and his luck is. Hammy even has her learning a lesson from him instead of overcoming things in her first focus episode. They toned it down around the time Tsurugi appeared and he wasn't shouting it at much but his character itself was just grating in general. I have nothing against the actor or anything, but it just wasn't fun to see Lucky on screen at any point but the final battle and the first episode's fight when no one knew any better.

At least Lucky shared the Moon/Sun upgrade and I thank him for it because the time he did were fun with the characters, even with him.

>>17043896At least they had the balls to acknowledge it. The only time someone seriously shat on Lucky with the Kyurangers was the Pegasus episode, where Hammy gets told to fuck off cause "WTF LUCKY WORKS SO HARD!!1!"

>>17043486That's because goonger mecha are aesthetically pleasing, when they aren't and they clusterfuck then it's just a piled turd

Engine oh is one of my favorite mecha, I wish there was an episode where it was alternate reality where the engines were just cars, no eyes and what not. Regardless that was a damn fine design, so was gunbaroh and carrygator is one of my favorite engines

>>17043896I could not stand YOSSHA LUCKY and it was painful every time he had to shout it. Takaharu was an idiot and the MOETTE KITAA nonsense was pretty much immediately put a stop to and he basically became a side character outside of when he got his upgrade and the fight against his rival in the early episodes because the director's saw he could not pull off the catchphrase and the actor was being grating so they reworked things.

Lucky constantly has focus, Lucky constantly shouts his catchphrase sometimes multiple times an episode, his biggest worry is simply that he's not lucky, he's the one who constantly solves disputes or figures out an answer to something, and it's simply frustrating to see this happen over and over and over again. Once Tsurugi comes into play, yes, he's a bit more reserved in shouting his catchphrase and you have more focus on other characters because the episodes are about them, but Lucky still finds a way to weasel into everything.

Tsurugi has a problem with repeating his catchphrase as well, I doubt anyone would disagree with that, but at least he's not as grating, he loses, he has tons of failures, he tries to work the catchphrase into regular discussions, and his act of being the best constantly falls apart at the seams and he's tested. Lucky just seems to be great at everything barring his dad because of his luck.

>>17043457This is very true and confuses me because nips don't give a shit about the individual mecha given the recent designs these past few years, The toys and designs need more transformationsThe mecha are not imposing anymore when a toddler brick of simplicity is an arm and doesn't require anything to do so other putting it on a port. I like the lupin vs vehicles but they're dinky, like a sd version of what they should be. But most of the mecha for the past few years look sd or chibi when they have simple transformation and the components are so shrunk, i think the last time we had vehicles that weren't shrunk was bouken? Then maybe go go v

>>17043854>they spend so much time developing Stinger when he's incredibly boring and his actor makes him boring as wellEpisode of Stinger was pretty good, but even then Stinger is just chemistry bait for Champ.

>>17044821I mean the fact that he was bad with acting so they worked around that by giving others much more screentime. Unless the way the show ended up was always planned to unfold how it did with the side characters getting more screentime than him. There's a very noticeable change with how they handle Takaharu after the Kakuranger/Hurricanger stuff and Raizou and eventually he does get better at acting somewhat.

>>17045341We had people here rewatching things like Shinkenger and Megaranger on top of others going back to revisit Gokaiger after having seen more series, so yeah. /krg/ has people who rewatch stuff like Den-O, Kabuto, Kuuga, and OOO so I know it does happen. My point was that if you told me I had to sit and watch it again I just would refuse you outright. Stuff like Go-On, Gekiranger, Dairanger, Abaranger, Kakuranger, Sun Vulcan, Megaranger, ToQ, Go-Bus, and so on are all series I would gladly rewatch some time down the road as an example.

>>17045347I really couldn't imagine rewatching an entire toku season, but I'll go back to rewatch select episodes I liked though maybe. I've got kind of a inclination to go rewatch some Timeranger episodes, fucking loved that season so much.

To Retrieve Lupin Collection and Protect Noel from Ganglers.Kogure search people who have potential to be a KaitouAnd Then Hire Zamigo frozen Their loved one to force them become a Kaitou.He probably keep Their loved one inside the book (or imprison somewhere else) and will give them back to Kaitou after Retrieve all Collection

>>17047122That's the insane thing about LuPat's toyline that I was talking about in >>17041510. VSX is it. That's as strong and complex as the robots get, and we got it in episode 25. They've done a good job of keeping its appearances rare so that it always feels powerful when it shows up, but there's no enhanced version using the auxiliary vehicles, no robots that each team can use on their own, nothing.

>>17047486> and the American Power Rangers movie was released close to that time.Does anyone know what the Nipponese reception to that was? I'd imagine they liked it, I know they dig Marvel movies and it was kind of like a halfway house between MCU and PR

The truth has come out- Noel, having given sensitive information to the Gangler, is chased by the Global Police. Kairi and co. begin to lose trust for Noel as well, seeing as how he manipulated things. Noel, on the other hand, tries to get back his credibility with the others. Meanwhile, Satoru seems to have tunnel vision when it comes to Noel, still convinced he is the Gangler spy, and his tactics to capture him put him at odds with Keiichiro.

Sakuya is invited to a Christmas party at a local kindergarten. To please the kids there, he decides to bring chicken (a must-have at Christmas). During his shopping, a Gangler monster named "Saamon" appears, and begins turning chicken into salmon... -----LUPATO IS OFF ON 12/30 for the New Year's Holiday-----

Episode 46:

Title- Nigedasenai Game (Inescapable Game)Airs- 1/6/18

No summary yet. Notes- Ep 45's title changed from the last group of summaries. Lupato will have at least 47 episodes; and more likely will finish at 50. Still waiting for confirmation on that.

>>17048031>Sakuya is invited to a Christmas party at a local kindergarten. To please the kids there, he decides to bring chicken>a Gangler monster named "Saamon" appears, and begins turning chicken into salmon... Is Christmas as a concept really that difficult for the Japanese to understand?

dorkly_chair at instituteforspacepolitics.org12/05/18(Wed)13:06:28No.17048230

yeah fried chicken is synonymous with Xmas over in moonlandreally not a bad ideamore than once I've been involved with planning irl Christmas stuff, the conversation turns into "lol Japan and fried chicken... hey wait yeah fried chicken sounds good and easy let's just do that"

>>17047864The movie bombed in Japan, oddly enough. It bombed in every country except for America, where it was only a modest success at best. It did better than the first Power Rangers movie did at the height of the phenomenon, so that's saying something.

>>17047864>and it was kind of like a halfway house between MCU and PRNah. It was more like a halfways between the last Fantastic Four Movie and PR. It felt like one of those old super hero movies that are ashamed of its super hero roots.

Besides, Super movies traditionally have very low box office, and even the biggest box office (199 Heroes) wouldn't be considered good for Western blockbuster numbers.

>>17049130not that guybut honestly the secret identity thing never really bothered me, i expected that they would take near the end of the show to revealpeople sure are idiots for thinking it would go any other way

>>17048584Man, I remember when that ZyuohShark leak pic was posted all those years ago, along with that newsletter kinda thing that had all the actors on it before they were officially announced anywhere. Good times.

Kinda depressing how fucking dead /ssg/ is now. Tonight used to be one of the most hyped nights of the year, I have so many good memories of staying up all night waiting for news of the next season. But the lack of hype is almost painful. Not unwarranted, but it’s just so sad to have such a dry leak and rumors season. I hope this show reignites some excitement in Sentai, because this just sucks.

>>17050458While it is a shame pretty much all of the Patrangers' big upgrades got ironically stolen by the Lupinrangers because their toys were selling more, we just have to deal with it. It's the home stretch now that Destra has been killed. Also you have Ryusouger leaks to look forward to as well.

Hey, what if for next year's Sentai, instead of doing 5 members or 3 members, they just make team 1 member. That way, they can give all the power ups to one guy, and they don't have to pretend the other characters matter.

>>17051329They'll just end it. No point in doing a going-away season when it's five years of failure at that point. Plus, a going-away after recent sales sends the message that the shows have failed, no company would do that.

>>17051329Their last anniversary season was Zyuoger which failed to get any boost from that. And they probably won't do a Gokaiger-like anniversary again anytime soon because they might fear it wouldn't compare favorably to it.

>>17051437The leaker that gave us LuPat vsKyu and the dinosaur theme for Ryusouger also said that a Captain Marvelous Miniseries was gonna air after LuPat to push the start of Ryusouger to March. So 50 episodes is more likely than 55

>>17051474I like the changers from LuPat, but the robos have been less than stellar. ToQger is the only Sentai from the past seven or so years that I feel has both good changers, good weapons and good robo toys.

>breaking the 10 year pattern just to keep the franchise aliveIt would be sad if this season actually flops.

>>17052330Leaker who was correct about Cross-Z Trailer said if Ryusouger doesn't make Kyoryu numbers or better then Sentai is canceled.They're also bringing back Captain Marvelous to gain interest for the show.

>>17052330Someone posted on /krg/ and /ssg/ with leaked pictures of the Cross-Z movie trailer and also its debut time. Later also posted some shots of the Kyuranger vs Lupin vs Pat movie before the official upload too.

Alongside those images, he claimed that Sentai might end if the next series doesn't perform well. Also, it'd have a dinosaur and battleship theme, rather than dragons like everyone expected.

He also said it'd be beginning in March and there will be a Captain Marvelous mini-series between Lupin vs Pat and the next show.

For Rider, his info wasn't very intereting though, but it always sounded believable unlike the Sentai stuff, which at first seemed really out there. Tsukasa's actor will be in the movie; no Odagiri (who apparently disliked the movie's script and called it trash). Zi-O is also getting three movies, which indicates it will have a spring movie even though Shirakura claimed last year that they had ended and the timing of Amazons' movie was just a coincidence, it didn't count.

I want an adult Sentai. Sorta like KR Amazons. Make it actually about the military creating weapons to fight monsters, give it that 90s Jetman feel. Have the cast experience loss and tragic backstories.

>>17052280So I guess that robot is why the leaker said it was battleship/Dinosaur theme, with those arm parts. It seems like the battleship stuff is just for those accessories though and not an actual theme for the season.

>>17052332>>17052335>>17052337>>17052347I know it may sound too much.. But can someone give me the screenschot of that leak anon post?? or give me a link to the original thread where the leak anon post his stuff??

>>17052280>>17052282I like the main robot, and it actually has a somewhat interesting gimmick. You can take the other 4 mecha and use them as armor for Kishiryu Oh, mixing and matching any pieces you like on the six attach points. As long as they the expected 3 more center piece robots and enough more armor mecha, then this is pretty cool.

>>17052284>>17052286Colors are a Kyoryu retread which is shitty. The suits are pretty cool actually, but the helmets are a fucking mess.

>>17052325The Changer literally just looks like an updated version of the Bakuryu Changer. Sword is whatever mostly, but it have a dino skull, I guess.

>>17052326Ryu Souls look kinda eh, but I don't know what kids like these days. Obligatory buckle.