Jews Speak the TRUTH About The Holocaust.

I'm not saying I believe the counterpoints that I've offered here, I'm just playing Devil's Advocate. However, I will say this:

If you believe that the absolute truth is the Party-Line History book version of the Holocaust, you're either Naive, a Shill or deliberately Ignorant.

Lada D

I believe the many video statements made by both:- survivors of the camps- Allied soldiers (both Soviet as well as Western allied soldiers) who witnessed the camps during liberation or as prisoners themselves (especially airmen shot down were in danger of being sent to the concentration camps- German guards who confessed on video (recently) and come clean

I believe in the official documents from the Germans about orders of Zyklon B etc., the number of Jewish prisoners transported (without killing them, the numbers could never have been kept in the camps).

I believe in the photo's and films taken not only by the allies, but by Germans as well, showing the treatment of Jewish people.

But most of all, I believe the stories and experiences I have heard from holocaust survivers myself.

It might be hard to believe that something like this really happened for you people in the USA. But here in mainland Europe proof of this is still everywhere around.

I suggest everyone here to watch World War 2 documentaries like "the Last War Heroes", where American and English soldiers who are still alive tell about what they witnessed when the liberated the concentration camps.

Quoting: Dutch Rebel 1568275

What did they witness? All of those "extermination camps" were in Eastern Europe: [link to www.google.de] No English or American soldier has seen them before the end of the Cold War.

They were never heard from again, and he will tell you until he's blue in the face all the usual conjecture about Nazis and death camps and everything else.

Why? Because the media told him so.

Did he see his sibs executed by Nazis? NoCan he be certain they didn't die of Starvation? NOCan he be certain they didn't die of Disease? NOCan he be certain they didn't get carted off to Siberia? NOCan he be certain the Russian "Liberators" didn't kill him? NO

But the history books told him the Nazis did it. So therefore, it's the Nazis.

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Joseph Goebbels

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27130245

I guess that's why they have to pass laws to keep people from telling the truth.

Judaism is not a race because Jews do not share one common ancestry. For instance, Ashkenazi Jews and Sephardic Jews are both "Jewish." However, whereas Ashkenazi Jews often hail from Europe, Sephardic Jews often hail from the Middle East. People of many different races have become Jewish over the centuries.

Quoting: subzero86

So, Some Races of "Jews" are not real than?

Quoting: 984857345

I've said all I can say to convince you...it's pointless !

You've clearly stated your hatred for many cultures in your threads so nothing I'll say will convince you otherwise !

And for the record I'm a Christian, blue eyed, white as milk man of Jewish descent not that it matters...your nazi attitude is sickening !

Quoting: subzero86

A while back you said you are a Jew who wants to immigrate to Israel. Cant keep your story straight.

I'm not saying I believe the counterpoints that I've offered here, I'm just playing Devil's Advocate. However, I will say this:

If you believe that the absolute truth is the Party-Line History book version of the Holocaust, you're either Naive, a Shill or deliberately Ignorant.

Quoting: Dutch Rebel 1568275

Lada D

I believe the many video statements made by both:- survivors of the camps- Allied soldiers (both Soviet as well as Western allied soldiers) who witnessed the camps during liberation or as prisoners themselves (especially airmen shot down were in danger of being sent to the concentration camps- German guards who confessed on video (recently) and come clean

I believe in the official documents from the Germans about orders of Zyklon B etc., the number of Jewish prisoners transported (without killing them, the numbers could never have been kept in the camps).

I believe in the photo's and films taken not only by the allies, but by Germans as well, showing the treatment of Jewish people.

But most of all, I believe the stories and experiences I have heard from holocaust survivers myself.

It might be hard to believe that something like this really happened for you people in the USA. But here in mainland Europe proof of this is still everywhere around.

What do you believe? Suvivor stories are all over the book. You believe in gas chambers?

They were never heard from again, and he will tell you until he's blue in the face all the usual conjecture about Nazis and death camps and everything else.

Why? Because the media told him so.

Did he see his sibs executed by Nazis? NoCan he be certain they didn't die of Starvation? NOCan he be certain they didn't die of Disease? NOCan he be certain they didn't get carted off to Siberia? NOCan he be certain the Russian "Liberators" didn't kill him? NO

But the history books told him the Nazis did it. So therefore, it's the Nazis.

See how that works?

Quoting: Lada D

Why does it matter how they died ? Does it really matter if the Nazis gassed them, starved them, or sent them to Siberia ?

Judaism is not a race because Jews do not share one common ancestry. For instance, Ashkenazi Jews and Sephardic Jews are both "Jewish." However, whereas Ashkenazi Jews often hail from Europe, Sephardic Jews often hail from the Middle East. People of many different races have become Jewish over the centuries.

Quoting: subzero86

So, Some Races of "Jews" are not real than?

Quoting: 984857345

I've said all I can say to convince you...it's pointless !

You've clearly stated your hatred for many cultures in your threads so nothing I'll say will convince you otherwise !

And for the record I'm a Christian, blue eyed, white as milk man of Jewish descent not that it matters...your nazi attitude is sickening !

Quoting: subzero86

No, I am a Jew who is Racist against Jews and English People. I only hate Jews and English People.

I suggest everyone here to watch World War 2 documentaries like "the Last War Heroes", where American and English soldiers who are still alive tell about what they witnessed when the liberated the concentration camps.

Quoting: Dutch Rebel 1568275

What did they witness? All of those "extermination camps" were in Eastern Europe: [link to www.google.de] No English or American soldier has seen them before the end of the Cold War.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3028474

That's why I said concentration camps, not extermination camps, regarding the documentary "the Last War Heroes".

Those concentration camps like Buchenwald, Mauthausen didn't have gas chambers, but used the Jewish inmates as slave labour, and still had an enormous mortality rate.

However, as stated in other replies from me, there have been allied soldiers who have witnessed the extermination camps...for instance the 1.400 British POW's who were interned in Auschwitz III (Monowitz).

Judaism is not a race because Jews do not share one common ancestry. For instance, Ashkenazi Jews and Sephardic Jews are both "Jewish." However, whereas Ashkenazi Jews often hail from Europe, Sephardic Jews often hail from the Middle East. People of many different races have become Jewish over the centuries.

Quoting: subzero86

So, Some Races of "Jews" are not real than?

Quoting: 984857345

I've said all I can say to convince you...it's pointless !

You've clearly stated your hatred for many cultures in your threads so nothing I'll say will convince you otherwise !

And for the record I'm a Christian, blue eyed, white as milk man of Jewish descent not that it matters...your nazi attitude is sickening !

Quoting: subzero86

No, I am a Jew who is Racist against Jews and English People. I only hate Jews and English People.

They were never heard from again, and he will tell you until he's blue in the face all the usual conjecture about Nazis and death camps and everything else.

Why? Because the media told him so.

Did he see his sibs executed by Nazis? NoCan he be certain they didn't die of Starvation? NOCan he be certain they didn't die of Disease? NOCan he be certain they didn't get carted off to Siberia? NOCan he be certain the Russian "Liberators" didn't kill him? NO

But the history books told him the Nazis did it. So therefore, it's the Nazis.

See how that works?

Quoting: Lada D

Why does it matter how they died ? Does it really matter if the Nazis gassed them, starved them, or sent them to Siberia ?

They were never heard from again, and he will tell you until he's blue in the face all the usual conjecture about Nazis and death camps and everything else.

Why? Because the media told him so.

Did he see his sibs executed by Nazis? NoCan he be certain they didn't die of Starvation? NOCan he be certain they didn't die of Disease? NOCan he be certain they didn't get carted off to Siberia? NOCan he be certain the Russian "Liberators" didn't kill him? NO

But the history books told him the Nazis did it. So therefore, it's the Nazis.

See how that works?

Quoting: Lada D

so that minimizes their deaths, because no one can prove they weren't gassed?and even though they might still be alive if germany had not invaded poland we still can't blame the nazis?that follows the logic i kept hearing on op's thread yesterday- that hitler wasn't realy a bad guy because stalin and mao killed more millions.

They were never heard from again, and he will tell you until he's blue in the face all the usual conjecture about Nazis and death camps and everything else.

Why? Because the media told him so.

Did he see his sibs executed by Nazis? NoCan he be certain they didn't die of Starvation? NOCan he be certain they didn't die of Disease? NOCan he be certain they didn't get carted off to Siberia? NOCan he be certain the Russian "Liberators" didn't kill him? NO

But the history books told him the Nazis did it. So therefore, it's the Nazis.

See how that works?

Quoting: Lada D

Why does it matter how they died ? Does it really matter if the Nazis gassed them, starved them, or sent them to Siberia ?

The thing is they were killed, one way or another !

Do you tell your husband that you don't believe in the holocaust ?

Quoting: subzero86

You think the Nazis sent people to Siberia??????

Heebie Jeebies you're dumb!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26924514

Jews are incredinly dumb. They also calim and believe millions were gassed with Diesel fumes in Treblinka and Sobibor, even though Diesel is not even toxic. Yet, thats part of the hoolcaust narrative.

They were never heard from again, and he will tell you until he's blue in the face all the usual conjecture about Nazis and death camps and everything else.

Why? Because the media told him so.

Did he see his sibs executed by Nazis? NoCan he be certain they didn't die of Starvation? NOCan he be certain they didn't die of Disease? NOCan he be certain they didn't get carted off to Siberia? NOCan he be certain the Russian "Liberators" didn't kill him? NO

But the history books told him the Nazis did it. So therefore, it's the Nazis.

See how that works?

Quoting: Lada D

so that minimizes their deaths, because no one can prove they weren't gassed?and even though they might still be alive if germany had not invaded poland we still can't blame the nazis?that follows the logic i kept hearing on op's thread yesterday- that hitler wasn't realy a bad guy because stalin and mao killed more millions.

see how that works?

Quoting: david 16910407

Nothing about the Holocaust can be proven. And alot of it is absurd on its face, like killing millions with an old Diesel subway engine. Or burning hundreds of people every hour even though no oven can even handle such a capacity. Or giving people a hair cut before you gas them (WTF?). Or making soap and lampshades.