Late night driving to the rrg. Lena got caught in traffic coming from Cleveland, prolly get to the cabinderson at like 1am. Gonna be an awesome weakend tho.

That is awl.

Jeluz

Was a fun trip. Had some great mileage days, made a bit of progress on a not-prodge.

Still, the crowds, the scene, and the homogenous climbing at the Red are starting to wear on me. If Janderson and the kidlets come down to Roctoberfest, we'll probabla go, but other than that, I'll be happy just going to the NRG for the rest of the season.

Only Janderson, no Manderson?

manderson went to the snadbox.

We can only hope that he does not come back like Doc as an embittered alcoholic pawn of the military industrial complex.

DON'T YOU JUDGE ME!!!

We watched ST:TNG "Chain of Command" last night. Picard goes on a secret mission and gets captured. He demands his rights under the space-Geneva convention and is told that they only apply to prisoners of war. He is being held as a terrorist. They try and get information out of him, which he doesn't have, by torture. (The first thing they do is strip him naked and tie him in a stress position with his hands over his head, overnight.) By the end, Picard is ready to tell them anything they want, including absolute nonsense (that there are 5 lights instead of 4), just to get him to stop. He gets rescued right before he breaks, but you can kinda tell he was going to. And then he confesses to the counselor that not only was he going to say it, but he believed he could see 5 lights.

Then we got a moral lecture on how torture is worse than wrong, it's useless for getting good information.

Late night driving to the rrg. Lena got caught in traffic coming from Cleveland, prolly get to the cabinderson at like 1am. Gonna be an awesome weakend tho.

That is awl.

Jeluz

Was a fun trip. Had some great mileage days, made a bit of progress on a not-prodge.

Still, the crowds, the scene, and the homogenous climbing at the Red are starting to wear on me. If Janderson and the kidlets come down to Roctoberfest, we'll probabla go, but other than that, I'll be happy just going to the NRG for the rest of the season.

Only Janderson, no Manderson?

manderson went to the snadbox.

We can only hope that he does not come back like Doc as an embittered alcoholic pawn of the military industrial complex.

DON'T YOU JUDGE ME!!!

We watched ST:TNG "Chain of Command" last night. Picard goes on a secret mission and gets captured. He demands his rights under the space-Geneva convention and is told that they only apply to prisoners of war. He is being held as a terrorist. They try and get information out of him, which he doesn't have, by torture. (The first thing they do is strip him naked and tie him in a stress position with his hands over his head, overnight.) By the end, Picard is ready to tell them anything they want, including absolute nonsense (that there are 5 lights instead of 4), just to get him to stop. He gets rescued right before he breaks, but you can kinda tell he was going to. And then he confesses to the counselor that not only was he going to say it, but he believed he could see 5 lights.

Then we got a moral lecture on how torture is worse than wrong, it's useless for getting good information.

Late night driving to the rrg. Lena got caught in traffic coming from Cleveland, prolly get to the cabinderson at like 1am. Gonna be an awesome weakend tho.

That is awl.

Jeluz

Was a fun trip. Had some great mileage days, made a bit of progress on a not-prodge.

Still, the crowds, the scene, and the homogenous climbing at the Red are starting to wear on me. If Janderson and the kidlets come down to Roctoberfest, we'll probabla go, but other than that, I'll be happy just going to the NRG for the rest of the season.

Only Janderson, no Manderson?

manderson went to the snadbox.

We can only hope that he does not come back like Doc as an embittered alcoholic pawn of the military industrial complex.

DON'T YOU JUDGE ME!!!

We watched ST:TNG "Chain of Command" last night. Picard goes on a secret mission and gets captured. He demands his rights under the space-Geneva convention and is told that they only apply to prisoners of war. He is being held as a terrorist. They try and get information out of him, which he doesn't have, by torture. (The first thing they do is strip him naked and tie him in a stress position with his hands over his head, overnight.) By the end, Picard is ready to tell them anything they want, including absolute nonsense (that there are 5 lights instead of 4), just to get him to stop. He gets rescued right before he breaks, but you can kinda tell he was going to. And then he confesses to the counselor that not only was he going to say it, but he believed he could see 5 lights.

Then we got a moral lecture on how torture is worse than wrong, it's useless for getting good information.

This came out 20 years ago. It was a little hard to watch.

Too serious for BET gerks. But yes, I bet it was.

This is serious business. Are you questioning our seriousness? Because we can be very, very serious.

Late night driving to the rrg. Lena got caught in traffic coming from Cleveland, prolly get to the cabinderson at like 1am. Gonna be an awesome weakend tho.

That is awl.

Jeluz

Was a fun trip. Had some great mileage days, made a bit of progress on a not-prodge.

Still, the crowds, the scene, and the homogenous climbing at the Red are starting to wear on me. If Janderson and the kidlets come down to Roctoberfest, we'll probabla go, but other than that, I'll be happy just going to the NRG for the rest of the season.

Only Janderson, no Manderson?

manderson went to the snadbox.

We can only hope that he does not come back like Doc as an embittered alcoholic pawn of the military industrial complex.

DON'T YOU JUDGE ME!!!

We watched ST:TNG "Chain of Command" last night. Picard goes on a secret mission and gets captured. He demands his rights under the space-Geneva convention and is told that they only apply to prisoners of war. He is being held as a terrorist. They try and get information out of him, which he doesn't have, by torture. (The first thing they do is strip him naked and tie him in a stress position with his hands over his head, overnight.) By the end, Picard is ready to tell them anything they want, including absolute nonsense (that there are 5 lights instead of 4), just to get him to stop. He gets rescued right before he breaks, but you can kinda tell he was going to. And then he confesses to the counselor that not only was he going to say it, but he believed he could see 5 lights.

Then we got a moral lecture on how torture is worse than wrong, it's useless for getting good information.

Late night driving to the rrg. Lena got caught in traffic coming from Cleveland, prolly get to the cabinderson at like 1am. Gonna be an awesome weakend tho.

That is awl.

Jeluz

Was a fun trip. Had some great mileage days, made a bit of progress on a not-prodge.

Still, the crowds, the scene, and the homogenous climbing at the Red are starting to wear on me. If Janderson and the kidlets come down to Roctoberfest, we'll probabla go, but other than that, I'll be happy just going to the NRG for the rest of the season.

Only Janderson, no Manderson?

manderson went to the snadbox.

We can only hope that he does not come back like Doc as an embittered alcoholic pawn of the military industrial complex.

DON'T YOU JUDGE ME!!!

We watched ST:TNG "Chain of Command" last night. Picard goes on a secret mission and gets captured. He demands his rights under the space-Geneva convention and is told that they only apply to prisoners of war. He is being held as a terrorist. They try and get information out of him, which he doesn't have, by torture. (The first thing they do is strip him naked and tie him in a stress position with his hands over his head, overnight.) By the end, Picard is ready to tell them anything they want, including absolute nonsense (that there are 5 lights instead of 4), just to get him to stop. He gets rescued right before he breaks, but you can kinda tell he was going to. And then he confesses to the counselor that not only was he going to say it, but he believed he could see 5 lights.

Then we got a moral lecture on how torture is worse than wrong, it's useless for getting good information.

This came out 20 years ago. It was a little hard to watch.

star trek is just perpetuating the lies of the liberal media.

hah. camhat and I have discussed before how I could possibly have come out of childhood with the set of values that I hold, which are significantly more liberal than my parents values.

I don't actually think it'd be a stretch to say TNG and the x files [I was 5-10 years old in the early 90s] taught me a lot about negotiating, empathy, skepticism, yay-science (is that a value? I'm going to count it) and feminism.

got to spend the day on a free guided fly fishing trip, thanks to an endowed lecture series... the guy wanted to go fly fishing, and they made it into an event. Needless to say, the fish remain safe from my lack of skill and preference for vegetables.

Fishing is a time honored tradition here in the BET. I myself dabbled in fishingism, some in Montana of course.

Bagged a couple 8 inch brook trout last weekend after we got blown out at Eagle Lake.

Late night driving to the rrg. Lena got caught in traffic coming from Cleveland, prolly get to the cabinderson at like 1am. Gonna be an awesome weakend tho.

That is awl.

Jeluz

Was a fun trip. Had some great mileage days, made a bit of progress on a not-prodge.

Still, the crowds, the scene, and the homogenous climbing at the Red are starting to wear on me. If Janderson and the kidlets come down to Roctoberfest, we'll probabla go, but other than that, I'll be happy just going to the NRG for the rest of the season.

Only Janderson, no Manderson?

manderson went to the snadbox.

We can only hope that he does not come back like Doc as an embittered alcoholic pawn of the military industrial complex.

In Maine, there's a state senate race, and the Republicans just release a video saying how the Dem was crazy because she plays WOW and is an idol worshiping Pagan. So naturally, to the comment thread on the newspaper FB page, I said: "The only difference between a Pagan idol worshiper and a Xian is their idol isn't a dead guy on a cross."

My dad then sends me a message: "Hey, pagan lover ... Besides the self-centeredness of the entire "I don't need religion" movement (I've heard of Catholic Charities and other similar efforts and all the good work they do ... Still awaiting word from "pagan charities" or "humanist cross" about how they serve others before selves), remember you are in job search mode ... How soon we forget that nothing goes away on the web ... Just sayin"

He loves stroking his 'Catholic Charities'. This may get good, but has poor timing with the upcoming 4 days in a car together...

In Maine, there's a state senate race, and the Republicans just release a video saying how the Dem was crazy because she plays WOW and is an idol worshiping Pagan. So naturally, to the comment thread on the newspaper FB page, I said: "The only difference between a Pagan idol worshiper and a Xian is their idol isn't a dead guy on a cross."

My dad then sends me a message: "Hey, pagan lover ... Besides the self-centeredness of the entire "I don't need religion" movement (I've heard of Catholic Charities and other similar efforts and all the good work they do ... Still awaiting word from "pagan charities" or "humanist cross" about how they serve others before selves), remember you are in job search mode ... How soon we forget that nothing goes away on the web ... Just sayin"

He loves stroking his 'Catholic Charities'. This may get good, but has poor timing with the upcoming 4 days in a car together...

oh dear... just ask him about the Catholic Charities in Africa that spread the misinformation that condoms spread aids.