house on the hill wrote:
Does anyone really thing that this bunch of idiots and misfits could actually run anything?

I dont believe anyone that voted for them has read more than the first paragraph.
Ask people why they have voted UKIP its either a protest vote or immigration most seem to have no knowledge of any other policies.

UKIP benefit a very small demographic but have very cleverly sold themselves as a party for the people. No one has made mention of the phrase "earthquake in politics" that every right wing party in Europe has been using including Mr Farage`s friends supporting Anders Brevik.

I would be interested to hear from anyone that has voted UKIP for reasons other than immigration or protest.

[quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote:
Does anyone really thing that this bunch of idiots and misfits could actually run anything?[/p][/quote]I dont believe anyone that voted for them has read more than the first paragraph.
Ask people why they have voted UKIP its either a protest vote or immigration most seem to have no knowledge of any other policies.
UKIP benefit a very small demographic but have very cleverly sold themselves as a party for the people. No one has made mention of the phrase "earthquake in politics" that every right wing party in Europe has been using including Mr Farage`s friends supporting Anders Brevik.
I would be interested to hear from anyone that has voted UKIP for reasons other than immigration or protest.Badgersgetabadname

I think that there are plenty of other reasons why people may vote UKIP in addition to concerns around immigration and dissatisfaction with the established parties, although these are valid reasons in their own right.

Two other important reasons that spring to mind are the vast expense incurred in propping up the beaurocratic trough that is the EU, and the taking away of our ability to make our own laws in favour of imposed EU legislation.

Badger, it seems that you have, in common with many other people, fallen victim to the media hype that wants to focus purely on immigration in relation to UKIP.

I think that there are plenty of other reasons why people may vote UKIP in addition to concerns around immigration and dissatisfaction with the established parties, although these are valid reasons in their own right.
Two other important reasons that spring to mind are the vast expense incurred in propping up the beaurocratic trough that is the EU, and the taking away of our ability to make our own laws in favour of imposed EU legislation.
Badger, it seems that you have, in common with many other people, fallen victim to the media hype that wants to focus purely on immigration in relation to UKIP.back_to_reality

No not at all I have gone through literature that UKIP has made available on their website and am still confused.
Farage`s links across Europe are not healthy ones well unless ties to far right groups is the desired outcome.

I have a few questions that maybe you could help me with.
The timeline they wish to put in place for the NHS sell off? and who it is being sold to?
Spending on education to be frozen and looking to make savings in this sector?
Construction contracts for all housing etc to be stopped?
I hope you have more information on these points than myself I have only had the official site and news sites to go from....
Do you think its ok to say we need to be out of Europe yet still maintain trade with Lega Nord as UKIP suggest and are currently in talks with?
So propping up right wing groups is a better option than working with other governments?

UKIP propose to up spending to provide 2/3 new aircraft carriers for the country, my question to this is why? Why do we need them? If this is indeed about defense as stated who is attacking UK that these would be needed?

There are many other questions that reading the web site brings up but for me I would like a better understanding of the point system people will need to enter the country?
Does this mean current residents in the UK will need to take this test as well?
Hopefully you will be able to clearly explain these points. Thanks in advance.

No not at all I have gone through literature that UKIP has made available on their website and am still confused.
Farage`s links across Europe are not healthy ones well unless ties to far right groups is the desired outcome.
I have a few questions that maybe you could help me with.
The timeline they wish to put in place for the NHS sell off? and who it is being sold to?
Spending on education to be frozen and looking to make savings in this sector?
Construction contracts for all housing etc to be stopped?
I hope you have more information on these points than myself I have only had the official site and news sites to go from....
Do you think its ok to say we need to be out of Europe yet still maintain trade with Lega Nord as UKIP suggest and are currently in talks with?
So propping up right wing groups is a better option than working with other governments?
UKIP propose to up spending to provide 2/3 new aircraft carriers for the country, my question to this is why? Why do we need them? If this is indeed about defense as stated who is attacking UK that these would be needed?
There are many other questions that reading the web site brings up but for me I would like a better understanding of the point system people will need to enter the country?
Does this mean current residents in the UK will need to take this test as well?
Hopefully you will be able to clearly explain these points. Thanks in advance.Badgersgetabadname

It does not matter which politician or party gets in power, this EU project will not bring hardly any prosperity for 90% of the people of Europe including the UK (indeed economic decline has been the case for nearly 10-years now in real terms taking inflation into account - basically has been going the same way as Japan with 20-years of economic stagnation), but just for the 10% rich as usual (that's why the politicians are leading us down the garden path as the servants of the mighty corporations). Indeed the cost to the EU taxpayer is astronomical and where every one of the 751 MEPs can receive €615,660 a year and look forward to a lump sum pension pot of €303,195. That's times 751 of course and where it is a mere drop in the ocean of the total cost of the EU. Some main-stream media outlets have said incredibly up 1000 billion Euro a year and where 'Translation' cost alone are pushing €1.5 billion a year. But a recent report by Civitas - The Institute For The Study Of Civil Society, stated that 'trade' between the UK and EU countries had not changed percentage wise since 1973, so what's the point for all this vast European taxpayer's investment when it has not given any extra back to the wealth of the people?

Also the NHS is definitely under threat from the private US healthcare industry if the EU-USA trade pact is signed up to by our politicians. A great deal of people do not know this. So enjoy the NHS for as long as you can, but where privatisation is definitely knocking on the door now with this so-called 'free-trade' agreement to be signed by our politicians.

It does not matter which politician or party gets in power, this EU project will not bring hardly any prosperity for 90% of the people of Europe including the UK (indeed economic decline has been the case for nearly 10-years now in real terms taking inflation into account - basically has been going the same way as Japan with 20-years of economic stagnation), but just for the 10% rich as usual (that's why the politicians are leading us down the garden path as the servants of the mighty corporations). Indeed the cost to the EU taxpayer is astronomical and where every one of the 751 MEPs can receive €615,660 a year and look forward to a lump sum pension pot of €303,195. That's times 751 of course and where it is a mere drop in the ocean of the total cost of the EU. Some main-stream media outlets have said incredibly up 1000 billion Euro a year and where 'Translation' cost alone are pushing €1.5 billion a year. But a recent report by Civitas - The Institute For The Study Of Civil Society, stated that 'trade' between the UK and EU countries had not changed percentage wise since 1973, so what's the point for all this vast European taxpayer's investment when it has not given any extra back to the wealth of the people?
Also the NHS is definitely under threat from the private US healthcare industry if the EU-USA trade pact is signed up to by our politicians. A great deal of people do not know this. So enjoy the NHS for as long as you can, but where privatisation is definitely knocking on the door now with this so-called 'free-trade' agreement to be signed by our politicians.
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Badgersgetabadname wrote:
No not at all I have gone through literature that UKIP has made available on their website and am still confused.
Farage`s links across Europe are not healthy ones well unless ties to far right groups is the desired outcome.

I have a few questions that maybe you could help me with.
The timeline they wish to put in place for the NHS sell off? and who it is being sold to?
Spending on education to be frozen and looking to make savings in this sector?
Construction contracts for all housing etc to be stopped?
I hope you have more information on these points than myself I have only had the official site and news sites to go from....
Do you think its ok to say we need to be out of Europe yet still maintain trade with Lega Nord as UKIP suggest and are currently in talks with?
So propping up right wing groups is a better option than working with other governments?

UKIP propose to up spending to provide 2/3 new aircraft carriers for the country, my question to this is why? Why do we need them? If this is indeed about defense as stated who is attacking UK that these would be needed?

There are many other questions that reading the web site brings up but for me I would like a better understanding of the point system people will need to enter the country?
Does this mean current residents in the UK will need to take this test as well?
Hopefully you will be able to clearly explain these points. Thanks in advance.

I guess you can fool all of the people all of the time! That's what happens when you just pick one or two things that wind people up and hide the reality of what lies behind it! Privatise the NHS, cut spending on education and house building and still they vote for them! There really is no hope for this country if people vote for a party that wants that. Stupidity will be the death of this country an why it so easy for people to come to here and get jobs the lazy morons here wont take, forgetting that if wages go up so do prices and then inflation and then the bubble bursts again! Oh dear

[quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote:
No not at all I have gone through literature that UKIP has made available on their website and am still confused.
Farage`s links across Europe are not healthy ones well unless ties to far right groups is the desired outcome.
I have a few questions that maybe you could help me with.
The timeline they wish to put in place for the NHS sell off? and who it is being sold to?
Spending on education to be frozen and looking to make savings in this sector?
Construction contracts for all housing etc to be stopped?
I hope you have more information on these points than myself I have only had the official site and news sites to go from....
Do you think its ok to say we need to be out of Europe yet still maintain trade with Lega Nord as UKIP suggest and are currently in talks with?
So propping up right wing groups is a better option than working with other governments?
UKIP propose to up spending to provide 2/3 new aircraft carriers for the country, my question to this is why? Why do we need them? If this is indeed about defense as stated who is attacking UK that these would be needed?
There are many other questions that reading the web site brings up but for me I would like a better understanding of the point system people will need to enter the country?
Does this mean current residents in the UK will need to take this test as well?
Hopefully you will be able to clearly explain these points. Thanks in advance.[/p][/quote]I guess you can fool all of the people all of the time! That's what happens when you just pick one or two things that wind people up and hide the reality of what lies behind it! Privatise the NHS, cut spending on education and house building and still they vote for them! There really is no hope for this country if people vote for a party that wants that. Stupidity will be the death of this country an why it so easy for people to come to here and get jobs the lazy morons here wont take, forgetting that if wages go up so do prices and then inflation and then the bubble bursts again! Oh dearhouse on the hill

Badgersgetabadname wrote:
No not at all I have gone through literature that UKIP has made available on their website and am still confused. Farage`s links across Europe are not healthy ones well unless ties to far right groups is the desired outcome. I have a few questions that maybe you could help me with. The timeline they wish to put in place for the NHS sell off? and who it is being sold to? Spending on education to be frozen and looking to make savings in this sector? Construction contracts for all housing etc to be stopped? I hope you have more information on these points than myself I have only had the official site and news sites to go from.... Do you think its ok to say we need to be out of Europe yet still maintain trade with Lega Nord as UKIP suggest and are currently in talks with? So propping up right wing groups is a better option than working with other governments? UKIP propose to up spending to provide 2/3 new aircraft carriers for the country, my question to this is why? Why do we need them? If this is indeed about defense as stated who is attacking UK that these would be needed? There are many other questions that reading the web site brings up but for me I would like a better understanding of the point system people will need to enter the country? Does this mean current residents in the UK will need to take this test as well? Hopefully you will be able to clearly explain these points. Thanks in advance.

Your original point was around the reasons people vote UKIP, which is what I was helping you with.

For a detailed analysis of the party's policies I suggest you contact a party member who will no doubt have more information than I. Apologies for not being able to help on this occasion.

[quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote:
No not at all I have gone through literature that UKIP has made available on their website and am still confused. Farage`s links across Europe are not healthy ones well unless ties to far right groups is the desired outcome. I have a few questions that maybe you could help me with. The timeline they wish to put in place for the NHS sell off? and who it is being sold to? Spending on education to be frozen and looking to make savings in this sector? Construction contracts for all housing etc to be stopped? I hope you have more information on these points than myself I have only had the official site and news sites to go from.... Do you think its ok to say we need to be out of Europe yet still maintain trade with Lega Nord as UKIP suggest and are currently in talks with? So propping up right wing groups is a better option than working with other governments? UKIP propose to up spending to provide 2/3 new aircraft carriers for the country, my question to this is why? Why do we need them? If this is indeed about defense as stated who is attacking UK that these would be needed? There are many other questions that reading the web site brings up but for me I would like a better understanding of the point system people will need to enter the country? Does this mean current residents in the UK will need to take this test as well? Hopefully you will be able to clearly explain these points. Thanks in advance.[/p][/quote]Your original point was around the reasons people vote UKIP, which is what I was helping you with.
For a detailed analysis of the party's policies I suggest you contact a party member who will no doubt have more information than I. Apologies for not being able to help on this occasion.back_to_reality

Badgersgetabadname wrote:
No not at all I have gone through literature that UKIP has made available on their website and am still confused. Farage`s links across Europe are not healthy ones well unless ties to far right groups is the desired outcome. I have a few questions that maybe you could help me with. The timeline they wish to put in place for the NHS sell off? and who it is being sold to? Spending on education to be frozen and looking to make savings in this sector? Construction contracts for all housing etc to be stopped? I hope you have more information on these points than myself I have only had the official site and news sites to go from.... Do you think its ok to say we need to be out of Europe yet still maintain trade with Lega Nord as UKIP suggest and are currently in talks with? So propping up right wing groups is a better option than working with other governments? UKIP propose to up spending to provide 2/3 new aircraft carriers for the country, my question to this is why? Why do we need them? If this is indeed about defense as stated who is attacking UK that these would be needed? There are many other questions that reading the web site brings up but for me I would like a better understanding of the point system people will need to enter the country? Does this mean current residents in the UK will need to take this test as well? Hopefully you will be able to clearly explain these points. Thanks in advance.

Your original point was around the reasons people vote UKIP, which is what I was helping you with.

For a detailed analysis of the party's policies I suggest you contact a party member who will no doubt have more information than I. Apologies for not being able to help on this occasion.

Thanks for reply.
I have been in contact with a couple of candidates and a councilor but was curious to see how voters perceived it.
All three have responded with differing opinions on the specifics of the policy sadly I received no replies from local parties that I attempted to contact.

I can see why those two things were why so many voted for them but curious to know how much voters knew about other policies.

[quote][p][bold]back_to_reality[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote:
No not at all I have gone through literature that UKIP has made available on their website and am still confused. Farage`s links across Europe are not healthy ones well unless ties to far right groups is the desired outcome. I have a few questions that maybe you could help me with. The timeline they wish to put in place for the NHS sell off? and who it is being sold to? Spending on education to be frozen and looking to make savings in this sector? Construction contracts for all housing etc to be stopped? I hope you have more information on these points than myself I have only had the official site and news sites to go from.... Do you think its ok to say we need to be out of Europe yet still maintain trade with Lega Nord as UKIP suggest and are currently in talks with? So propping up right wing groups is a better option than working with other governments? UKIP propose to up spending to provide 2/3 new aircraft carriers for the country, my question to this is why? Why do we need them? If this is indeed about defense as stated who is attacking UK that these would be needed? There are many other questions that reading the web site brings up but for me I would like a better understanding of the point system people will need to enter the country? Does this mean current residents in the UK will need to take this test as well? Hopefully you will be able to clearly explain these points. Thanks in advance.[/p][/quote]Your original point was around the reasons people vote UKIP, which is what I was helping you with.
For a detailed analysis of the party's policies I suggest you contact a party member who will no doubt have more information than I. Apologies for not being able to help on this occasion.[/p][/quote]Thanks for reply.
I have been in contact with a couple of candidates and a councilor but was curious to see how voters perceived it.
All three have responded with differing opinions on the specifics of the policy sadly I received no replies from local parties that I attempted to contact.
I can see why those two things were why so many voted for them but curious to know how much voters knew about other policies.Badgersgetabadname

Badgersgetabadname wrote:
No not at all I have gone through literature that UKIP has made available on their website and am still confused.
Farage`s links across Europe are not healthy ones well unless ties to far right groups is the desired outcome.

I have a few questions that maybe you could help me with.
The timeline they wish to put in place for the NHS sell off? and who it is being sold to?
Spending on education to be frozen and looking to make savings in this sector?
Construction contracts for all housing etc to be stopped?
I hope you have more information on these points than myself I have only had the official site and news sites to go from....
Do you think its ok to say we need to be out of Europe yet still maintain trade with Lega Nord as UKIP suggest and are currently in talks with?
So propping up right wing groups is a better option than working with other governments?

UKIP propose to up spending to provide 2/3 new aircraft carriers for the country, my question to this is why? Why do we need them? If this is indeed about defense as stated who is attacking UK that these would be needed?

There are many other questions that reading the web site brings up but for me I would like a better understanding of the point system people will need to enter the country?
Does this mean current residents in the UK will need to take this test as well?
Hopefully you will be able to clearly explain these points. Thanks in advance.

I guess you can fool all of the people all of the time! That's what happens when you just pick one or two things that wind people up and hide the reality of what lies behind it! Privatise the NHS, cut spending on education and house building and still they vote for them! There really is no hope for this country if people vote for a party that wants that. Stupidity will be the death of this country an why it so easy for people to come to here and get jobs the lazy morons here wont take, forgetting that if wages go up so do prices and then inflation and then the bubble bursts again! Oh dear

Is UKIP the party for those that only read the headline?
Does everyone that voted for them actually want a cut in education or the NHS sold off?

[quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote:
No not at all I have gone through literature that UKIP has made available on their website and am still confused.
Farage`s links across Europe are not healthy ones well unless ties to far right groups is the desired outcome.
I have a few questions that maybe you could help me with.
The timeline they wish to put in place for the NHS sell off? and who it is being sold to?
Spending on education to be frozen and looking to make savings in this sector?
Construction contracts for all housing etc to be stopped?
I hope you have more information on these points than myself I have only had the official site and news sites to go from....
Do you think its ok to say we need to be out of Europe yet still maintain trade with Lega Nord as UKIP suggest and are currently in talks with?
So propping up right wing groups is a better option than working with other governments?
UKIP propose to up spending to provide 2/3 new aircraft carriers for the country, my question to this is why? Why do we need them? If this is indeed about defense as stated who is attacking UK that these would be needed?
There are many other questions that reading the web site brings up but for me I would like a better understanding of the point system people will need to enter the country?
Does this mean current residents in the UK will need to take this test as well?
Hopefully you will be able to clearly explain these points. Thanks in advance.[/p][/quote]I guess you can fool all of the people all of the time! That's what happens when you just pick one or two things that wind people up and hide the reality of what lies behind it! Privatise the NHS, cut spending on education and house building and still they vote for them! There really is no hope for this country if people vote for a party that wants that. Stupidity will be the death of this country an why it so easy for people to come to here and get jobs the lazy morons here wont take, forgetting that if wages go up so do prices and then inflation and then the bubble bursts again! Oh dear[/p][/quote]Is UKIP the party for those that only read the headline?
Does everyone that voted for them actually want a cut in education or the NHS sold off?Badgersgetabadname

Any UKIP voters out there?
Would be really interested to know if your vote was driven on the immigration issue or just dislike of the powers that be?
What do UKIP have that made you want to support them and would you also back them in a general election?

Any UKIP voters out there?
Would be really interested to know if your vote was driven on the immigration issue or just dislike of the powers that be?
What do UKIP have that made you want to support them and would you also back them in a general election?Badgersgetabadname