Manchester United banter 77304

06 Nov 2017 19:54:19
That was terrible from start to finish. There was only ever going to be one winner.
Going for draws away from home is just frustrating to watch and disappointing as a supporter. We are getting what we deserve in these games.
I could maybe understand it if we always got the draw and nicked the odd win but we don't, we are getting a point in about half these games. Go to win them, will lose some but I bet we would win more.
Frustrating.
Also Lukaku is low on confidence and needs taking out for a game or two. He is offering nothing at the moment. He will get back to his best but give Rashford a few games up top in the meantime.

06 Nov 2017 20:52:35
He is low on confidence. Every touch is poor at the moment.
I rate him and when he is on form he's a beast and is unstoppable. At the moment though he's struggling. He is getting very little service agreed but every sniff of goal he does get it doesn't look like he will take it at the moment.
All strikers go off the boil and a game or 2 out of the starting eleven would freshen him up and help to get him back firing on all cylinders.

06 Nov 2017 22:05:44
No width no crosses no chances been that way for 5 games in a row. Not sure you can blame lukaku alone.
Its been that way for years now. A squad without 1 proper full back and no winger at all cannot be considered a strong squad imo. Yes we have good depth for forwards and cb's but its a squad with glaring defficiences in other areas.

06 Nov 2017 22:37:05
2nb in the league behind city who are probably the most in form team in Europe .

The same city who have no defficiences?
All the stick sterling delph stones otamendi have got on thus site .
City have raised the bar but this tome last year Chelsea where top of the table with 1 mire point than we have now .

06 Nov 2017 23:18:18
Agreed Jred. We have been shocking for last 4 games or so but some of the overreactions on here are a bit much. We won't win the league as city are in a different class but once we get our fit players back i expect us to put a good run together.

07 Nov 2017 00:40:52
Park3
We have been pretty crap last 4 games and that has seen us end up second in the league .
Better than the rest but not on the level of what pep is doing at city .

The melt down over a loss to Chelsea away a fixture we have won once in the last 16 games is nuts .

Forget Chelsea and all this talk off we haven't got the players to beat Chelsea, there not good enough etc . what do we need to beat Huddersfield, is our squad not better than there's
Chelsea got stuffed 3 days earlier.

2nd in the league top of our group in the CL and are our players playing well? Where would we be if we where playing to the best of our ability .
A bit like city,

07 Nov 2017 09:00:13
Yes Jred, won by a lot more if we played to anywhere near our potential.

Blitzing teams a few times in 5 minutes, doesn't count as a whole game, what about the other 85mins? Also those games seem a while ago now, and were against teams in turmoil for the most part.

Palace change of manager
Everton change of manager
West Ham change of manager
Leicester change of manager (we only beat these 2-0)

Granted the Swansea result was 4-0 and they don't seem to be in turmoil - however the game was horrible to watch and Swansea were very much in it and scary until we blitzed them from nowhere.

Put us against half decent teams and we struggle. Even the Spurs 1-0 could easily have been reversed had Alli scored a minute before we did. All if's but's and maybe's, but those 4-0 wins flattered us. Only great league performance this season was against West Ham. We have played in a similar way all season, this is why we struggle to lift it when our backs are against the wall.

07 Nov 2017 09:36:10
Calling it as I see it. After virtually every win this season the responses on here have mainly been "well who cares about the performance, it's the result that matters". Then when we start drawing/ losing instead of winning despite playing in a similar way, the responses are "well we can't play well every week".

Results are dictating the majority of peoples interpretation of the performance. It's easy to look at our results in a list format and think we are doing well, easy to look at the league table and think we are second so all seems good. But they are misleading in my eyes. I remember being impressed twice all season, Burton and West Ham games. The rest were mainly like watching paint dry, throw in a few glimpses of what we are capable of and it doctors everything for some people.

Just because a prostitute has a night off the job it doesn't mean she isn't a prostitute anymore!

07 Nov 2017 10:15:04
Before the liverpool game 99 % of people where happy with how we where playing, there really wasnt that many complaining.
Since the liverpool game it's been a mixed again I don't think anyone is disagreeing with that .

We are that terrible, our players are that bad, our performances that poor that we are as low as 2nb in the league .

07 Nov 2017 10:39:48
I don't think people were truly happy with how we were playing. Maybe they thought it was a necessary stepping stone, Rome wasn't built in a day etc. We have been winning ugly for the most part, but the majority of fans are content with that, satisfied even, I doubt many are really happy with what they get from watching us for 90 minutes every week - but the results smoothed over the tedium of most games. Maybe they were connecting a big win on paper with entertainment, I don't know. I do know that looking at our results paints a completely different picture than watching the games that got us those results!

There have been a lot of people saying well before the Liverpool game that the performances weren't ideal but it's about picking up the points and getting the winning habit back at the club. I have debated this virtually every week for the past 18 months+, the whole results/ performance thing is not a new phenomenon since the Liverpool boredraw, its been going on for ages. All of last season and during LVG reign I was banging that drum and slowly but surely the momentum builds.

We obviously haven't been terrible, I'm not saying that at all. We haven't been very good, I expect better from our team, manager and frankly the fans. I mentioned to Shan earlier on the other page that Jose is one of the most ruthless managers out there when it comes to players being punished for not being 100%, why shouldn't he be held to the same standards by the people that pay his wages? Jose doesn't tolerate anything but the best, he even wants MORE money to spend to be the best. Yet we are meant to tolerate what we are seeing from Jose's Man Utd?

We all support Utd, we all want free flowing entertaining football and to be followers of a winning team - but we each have our own expectations. I expect a lot more performance wise, I also expect better results against decent opposition - I certainly expect to see signs, but they evaporate as quickly as they emerge.

Even those Mickey Mouse cup wins last season didn't appease me, we all have our standards and I'm pleased for those that are happy with how things are going (I wish I could be) . I'm just different, but there is a growing rumbling of discontent and it's totally justified in my eyes.

07 Nov 2017 11:25:00
Beast
I think we have been very Jose. The 90s have gone and some of our wins performances have been what I would call a Jose type performance .

Last season 6th was poor imo this season first half was pretty good been very average since the scouse .
But it's not all doom and gloom .
To be honest I don't think your ever going to be happy with Jose as manager not sure your ever going g to enjoy his style of footy .
I suppose that's why a few didn't want him as manager.

If we play like we did against West Ham then I would be delighted though, I don't expect it every week of course, just more than once or twice a season. I think I wouldn't be quite as frustrated had I not see what we were capable of in that game. But yes Jose's style is not for me, bit of out of the frying pan and into the fryer, been a hard few years for me with the managers we have chosen.

07 Nov 2017 13:36:43
GDS, not trying to be pedantic, but I thought we played for the win, only in the first ten minutes. After that, we were swamped, and we seemed to shrink back into our shell again. We only got going again in the last five minutes.