"Whoa! The first time I hit this cymbal out with my band , I don't know whether they thought it was an efx or whether they just got cracked in the back with a whip. Explosive! This is a awsome sounding China. I have played many a' China cymbal in my time but this is the one if you want to be heard. I suggest letting the cymbal breathe versus tighting it down with the felts. It has more sustain that way. It's also good to ride towards the bell. Tim Alexander uses this cymbal in his line-up. Sweet, sweet,sweet!"