Let me start by saying that I think Nick/Vicki's time deficit will not be overcome in this leg.

However, looking at maf's Racing report it is interesting to see the time deficit that we erased by flight bunching.

I am reminded of TAR12, in which a route info task in Osaka, actually allowed TK & Rachel to almost catch up with the other teams that were way ahead of them, and that's considering the several flights that were available from there to Taipei which was the following destination.

From the promo I don't see signs of something similar happening to Nick & Vicky, but it would been ideal to make this leg 11 more exciting, considering the amount of flights leaving from Hong Kong to Seoul might be even more abundant than Osaka - Taipei in TAR12.

Let me start by saying that I think Nick/Vicki's time deficit will not be overcome in this leg.

However, looking at maf's Racing report it is interesting to see the time deficit that we erased by flight bunching.

I am reminded of TAR12, in which a route info task in Osaka, actually allowed TK & Rachel to almost catch up with the other teams that were way ahead of them, and that's considering the several flights that were available from there to Taipei which was the following destination.

From the promo I don't see signs of something similar happening to Nick & Vicky, but it would been ideal to make this leg 11 more exciting, considering the amount of flights leaving from Hong Kong to Seoul might be even more abundant than Osaka - Taipei in TAR12.

We do know Nick/Vicki were still attempting the second detour option at 4 a.m., and that was before they decided to take the penalty. Then they had to get to Phil at the pitstop to be checked in. since the penalty won't be applied until their departure on the next leg.

Even if you assume that the last team to check in before N/V was at 3 a.m., the time gap would still have been a couple of hours; and I think the other three teams finished the task before then. And unlike flying out of Dakka, flying out of Hong Kong was a lot easier in terms of the number of flight options.

For that reason alone, I don't see Nick/Vicki being able to use the flight schedules to catch up completely. There's going to be a significant gap in Seoul, the question is how much.

Actually, theschnauzers, the flight schedules from Hong Kong to Seoul do halp N/V catch up some. Mainly due to TPTB extending the pit stop. There is an 8 hour gap in flights from HKG to ICN (Seoul), from 4pm to midnight....the first three teams were released, so that they had to sit at HKG for that gap....negating the 6 hour detour penalty. The main reason that N/V are behind so much.......there is another gap in flights after the first three teams left HKG of about 6-7 hours.......before N/V could get out of HKG.

In retrospect, it appears to me that if N/V had of just taken a nap and tried to finish the boat detour after the sun came up.....they would have been able to catch the same flights with the other teams......The combination of taking so long and then the penalty, doomed them, which is what it is supposed to do. It is hard to see that far ahead when you are dead tired and hungry......Nick was hungy, but Vicki just had had a filling meal (actually several, considering the ones left in the toilet.........)......whether she enjoyed it or not........she had the nourishment....Nick didnt.

As they said in the after leg confessional.......they just had a really bad day all around.

In retrospect, it appears to me that if N/V had of just taken a nap and tried to finish the boat detour after the sun came up.....they would have been able to catch the same flights with the other teams......The combination of taking so long and then the penalty, doomed them, which is what it is supposed to do. It is hard to see that far ahead when you are dead tired and hungry......Nick was hungry, but Vicki just had had a filling meal (actually several, considering the ones left in the toilet.........)......whether she enjoyed it or not........she had the nourishment....Nick didn't.

As they said in the after leg confessional.......they just had a really bad day all around.

I doubt they thought about a NEL while they were tired on the boat. If they had thought about a NEL, they might have gotten to the nap until sunrise option.

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So, I haven't seen anyone mention this, but in the promo we see that for the skating challenge J/T are wearing orange number tags and that Claire is wearing a yellow number tag. There is also a pair skating together that wear blue number tags, but they look like they're just professionals (and both seemed to have short, brown hair), so I don't think that's any team.

In the preview I recognized this:

You can see both a person wearing a yellow number tag and a person wearing an orange number tag. I'm thinking this means that B/C and J/T were at that challenge at the same time.

I'm not sure what to think about the lack of N/K in the promo and preview. I'm personally hoping they remain ahead of J/T and B/C, but you never know!

More and more the rafting is not seeming like a detour option to me. If it is then JT and BC both changed to skating, how do you change off of the rafting? It looks a lot like a general task which means we don't know the other detour option. I suspect that NK choose it and are not shown b/c the creators of the promo did not want to introduce another task at this point.

More and more the rafting is not seeming like a detour option to me. If it is then JT and BC both changed to skating, how do you change off of the rafting? It looks a lot like a general task which means we don't know the other detour option. I suspect that NK choose it and are not shown b/c the creators of the promo did not want to introduce another task at this point.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. We see B/C, J/T and N/K do the rafting, so it's looking like it's just a general task and that B/C and J/T chose the skating detour. I wonder what the other Detour could be.

I noticed it too and figured they could be taking random caps from other episodes.

And the ice skating task with Brooke's shrieking/screaming voiceover as she falls, might actually be Nat and Kat just that they used Brooke's voiceover? It has been done before and it's not impossible.

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Even though I have been an outspoken Speed Bump hater, I must admit that NV's Speed Bump last night actually looked like a real task...it was a far cry from sitting on ice furniture!

If only we got to see more of the task.

I know...the editors couldn't control NV's stupidity. I also wish they would have used that SB in a leg that mattered. Although they probably thought that leg was going to matter...

Honestly, quitting the Detour was not more of a matter of stupidity, but the refusal to work together as a team.

And producers would not have expected Nick and Vicki to quit the Detour. They are not actually prophets you know; who can look into the future? Based on what we've seen, we know that Nick and Vicki barely missed their Korean flight, so without the 6 hours penalty, you'll have my bet that Nick and Vicki will be bunched together with the other teams, and the Speedbump will MATTER alot. As we know NELs are pre-determined, they definitely thought that last elimination leg matters right? Even Phil said, "The last team to check in.. WILL be eliminated"?

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"The Amazing Race shows the best and worst out of you. But if only negative things are shown, then it's probably you. - Jobby"

Even though I have been an outspoken Speed Bump hater, I must admit that NV's Speed Bump last night actually looked like a real task...it was a far cry from sitting on ice furniture!

If only we got to see more of the task.

I know...the editors couldn't control NV's stupidity. I also wish they would have used that SB in a leg that mattered. Although they probably thought that leg was going to matter...

Honestly, quitting the Detour was not more of a matter of stupidity, but the refusal to work together as a team.

And producers would not have expected Nick and Vicki to quit the Detour. They are not actually prophets you know; who can look into the future? Based on what we've seen, we know that Nick and Vicki barely missed their Korean flight, so without the 6 hours penalty, you'll have my bet that Nick and Vicki will be bunched together with the other teams, and the Speedbump will MATTER alot. As we know NELs are pre-determined, they definitely thought that last elimination leg matters right? Even Phil said, "The last team to check in.. WILL be eliminated"?

Not working togeter as a team is stupidity. I think that if Nick had not acted like a jerk, they could have finished the Detour, been NEL'ed, and still made the midnight flight. Who knows who would have been eliminated then.

Even though I have been an outspoken Speed Bump hater, I must admit that NV's Speed Bump last night actually looked like a real task...it was a far cry from sitting on ice furniture!

If only we got to see more of the task.

I know...the editors couldn't control NV's stupidity. I also wish they would have used that SB in a leg that mattered. Although they probably thought that leg was going to matter...

Honestly, quitting the Detour was not more of a matter of stupidity, but the refusal to work together as a team.

And producers would not have expected Nick and Vicki to quit the Detour. They are not actually prophets you know; who can look into the future? Based on what we've seen, we know that Nick and Vicki barely missed their Korean flight, so without the 6 hours penalty, you'll have my bet that Nick and Vicki will be bunched together with the other teams, and the Speedbump will MATTER alot. As we know NELs are pre-determined, they definitely thought that last elimination leg matters right? Even Phil said, "The last team to check in.. WILL be eliminated"?

Not working togeter as a team is stupidity. I think that if Nick had not acted like a jerk, they could have finished the Detour, been NEL'ed, and still made the midnight flight. Who knows who would have been eliminated then.

If you say so then. I am sad for the fact that any teams who have at least once not worked well together as a team are considered "stupid" by you.

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