When DiS delete threads because they risk losing their free ticket to the next atp shit fest. We've all seen the like up - it is reported in lots of places; who cares about a pointless embargo when the news is out there.

Could you please shut down your website immediately, and also physically restrain all of your users and anyone who might have logged into your site? Can't really go into specifics. You're just going to have to trust us on this one!

If an embargo is broken, it's broken, you can't put it back in the bottle - especially if it was their fault. They should just have to deal with it as best they can. They're being cut an unbelievable amount of slack here.

...Primavera's solicitors screaming "YOU FUCKING HALFWITS, YOU AGREED TO NOT ANNOUNCE THIS UNTIL AFTER OUR LINE UP ANNOUNCEMENT, NOW EVERYONE KNOWS AND SOME PEOPLE WON'T BUY TICKETS TO FLY TO SPAIN WHEN ALL THE BANDS ARE ON IN LONDON - YOU ABSOLUTELY PROMISED YOU HAD PUT THIS FUCK-WOTTERY BEHIND YOU WHEN WE AGREED TO PUT THIS ON TOGETHER"

They've asked that we delete all the threads containing the information about the line up of this festival they managed to fuck up and leak early.

People are free to talk about it. We ARE talking about it right here.

I have no stake in this whatsoever, but I presume it's bad business for Sean to piss off a major promoter, not because of mythical free tickets, but because in the future they might decide not to offer interviews to his site, given they also manage bands etc.

So yeah, it's a courtesy thing I suppose, but I'm struggling to get why you didn't already understand that from all the discussion above in this thread?

I don't think they have a right to ask DiS to remove information from their boards that they've already released. If DiS disagree, that's fine. It's sean's board and he has every right to remove whatever he likes.

ATP needs sites like DiS at least as much as DiS needs ATP. Probably quite a bit more. So I doubt there's much at stake for DiS here. If it's just a courtesy thing, it's fair enough, but it's a bit farcical when everyone knows everything but nobody's allowed to talk about it.

You can doubt all you like, by the way, but I'm not sure why Sean should listen to you when you say that while you tell him he shouldn't listen to ATP?

Their events would always be discussed on here because DiS can't afford to not mention ATP but I was definitely implying points about exclusive/early (ha!) info, which clearly they could easily avoid giving without losing too much exposure.

There's nothing to stop everyone posting the line up over and over. I'd rather you didn't: it's childish and pointless and, for all we know, it will actually jeopardise the lineup itself if there's some big hoo-har over some festival having an 'exclusive' to that artist already announced. Fuck knows.

It would be great if everyone would just content themselves with poring over various cached Google instances or just waited for the actual announcement, and meanwhile, feel free to point and laugh at the ridiculousness of the situation.

it is used for shows sometimes - point is that it's a shell of a room that can be tailored to concerts with a stage and front-facing seats, events in the round (eg the motoracing stuff) and events where the seats are racked away.

though you pay an additional fee for the Roxy Music. They built a special 'intimate outdoor arena' out the back of the exCel, past the cars. I think the festival part was called 'Dock Rock'. MeatLoaf did one day. Alice Cooper another. Possibly some version of Deep Purple and maybe Mick Hucknall if I recall.

"For those of you wondering about the venue - never fear, we're going to make it great like we always have with all of our more unusual venues in the past. We were finding outdoor sound limits to be too restrictive for the production values we want to deliver"
Hmmmmmmmm

It's a bit weird that only 4 of the 20 bands are scheduled to play then. It would really help if they gave us some idea how many bands they hope to book for each day.

Given that the prices are the same for the Friday and the Saturday you would assume that the number of bands booked for each day should be roughly equal. But then you would also assume that the Friday might not start until 4pm-ish as that's what they've always done in the past with the ATP and IBYM weekends. But it's pretty dangerous to assume anything the way ATP has conducted itself of late.

I definitely fancy the Saturday but there's no way i'm buying a weekend ticket until they decide to offer up some more details about how many bands we can expect on the Friday.

I guess the less info they release about the event, the less stuff they will then be under pressure to keep to.

ATP are running a ludicrously convoluted Instagram line up announcement thing.

"a series of clues will be placed on the ATP Instagram. Identify the locations around London before 3pm in the photos and go there; each location will have one of the new band names somewhere on the site. Be the first to announce that band on the line-up by Instagramming a picture of the band name to your Instagram/Facebook/Twitter followers and tagging @atpfestival and #jabberwocky."

Anyway, first names up seem to be:

The Bug
Johanna Serrat
The Van Pelt
Sun Kil Moon

Would like to hear a Sun Kil Moon song about the day he did an instagram band name treasure hunt and somebody died.

Decided it had to be done. I think it says a lot about DiS that we have all been remorselessly cynical about this since that first botched announcement and yet everyone here is probably still going to end up going. Forgiving bunch.