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Hey Icemud, I came across your post on searching for PTK while looking for the strain myself. I'm from Massachusetts and have a very similar memory of the strain. Back in the early 2000's the strain would show up late fall and it was by far the best weed I had tried, which wasn't hard considering all the low grade stuff around at the time. We used to call it "Christmas Trees" and it had such a memorable smell and taste. Anyways, I am very impressed with the extent of your search and look forward to getting my hands on the seeds once they're available again.

Also curious if you have run them unpollinated? Is it the soaring 1 hit wonder we remember?...I had always thought I'd find it in sativa. Really close with old school NL5xhaze, but not quite there with that fresh Aspen wood smell...so loud opening it would permeate a room. I'm excited to here your take. Csi likely the same stock?

Hey Jar, I have not run them unseeded/pollenated yet so I can't comment on the high. The smell of the Xmas Bud was very very piney and nothing else, like evergreen bushes. Its hard to say if its the same or not since I didn't run it female for consumption, but its the closest so far in smell that anything has come to what I remember. STill hard to say if its exactly the same, and since phenotypes can vary greatly, it very well may be the same, but with minute differences. The CSI pine tar kush is the real deal pine tar kush, hazemans is Xmas Bud. 2 separate strains. I don't know if Pine Tar Kush is going to be piney or not as there isn't much information out there on it, but I will be running it in the near future (after my sour grapes) so I will know within the next 8 months or so

That's awesome Icemud! Knowing that is enough for me. I think I'll run them both side by side expecting a lot of pheno's, backup and then select for the closest to the old school I remember and then select for that over a couple generations. I'll keep you in the loop. Man I miss everything about that herb. Thank you again for all your diligence in seeking her out

i got it from someone who got it from Tom Hill himself. I am new to this whole thing but saw your grow journal about the PTK hunt and thought I would at least chime in and let you know your search is not in vain. The story of how I got it and what has been done with it since is worth sharing with people who have a love for this strain. I'll try and message you so I'm not posting on your page but I haven't quite figured all this out yet. Cheers

Hey Ice I was looking for info on cmh lights and graytail mentioned I should talk to you. I have been considering investing in a few of them but I have not seen any grows with them and I am unsure if they are worth the price. I was wondering if you could give me your take on them or point me to which of your journals I should look at. Thanks in advance

Hey Ice,
Been reading ur journals all the way from the v scrogg wit the 400 watt and the 600 watt running the hps and mh spectrum's to mimic the sun. I new then u were gonna do great things. You have inspired me and jus wanted to take time to let u know!! Would love to get my hands on ur crosses! LoL! Is anyone in 420 running a journal with them to c what they become? If so lmk so i can follow! Plants look good sorry to here bout ur girls not digging da dirt. Great work wit the far red!! I don't c huge difference but hey still great to watch. Won't ever know unless u try!!
Keep em green!
Pino0911

Im not sure if you remember me at all, but throughout this summer I followed and commented on most of your journals. You are the first really experienced grower that I found on this site, and because of that I looked through legitimately all of your grow journals, and learned SO MUCH.

Im back in Colorado and just started my first grow operation yesterday! I couldn't be any more excited to embark on this adventure!

Anyways, all of that brings me to my question. I would be so thrilled if you determined it was worth your time to come check my journal out! I am already running into a few issues, and from my experience on this website and your vids, you know what you're talking about.

So if you think you could do that, you would really help and inspire a young grower. Thanks so much in advance and have a wonderful night!

Ice I don't know how to tell anyone this but BID passed away tonight from a blood clot in his brain. I am flying home tomorrow morning from ga I am here for my grandmothers funeral. I really don't know what else to say can you let the other guys know i don't know if i can type this out again
Spiffy

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