What Do You Honestly Want From The PS4?

I want less heating problems, a better graphics, if possible, I want it to play Ps1, Ps2, and Ps3 games, and obviously Ps4 games, too. I wan to be able to sign into my account on Ps4, and still be able to have my trophies and friends, I want better, and still free online play, and and just a trustworthy system.

-ANTI ALIASING JAGGIE KILLER TECH PLEEEEZE
-Cross Game Chat
-PSN: "Upgrade Yo Network, Son!" We need server architecture that doesnt drop people and sessions all the time.
-Mozilla Firefox Built-in with autoUpdates. Dedicated app.
-Keyboard Mouse Integration taken to new hieghts
-FULL CONTROL OVER THE PS4 WITH VITA AND ALL SUBSEQUENT DEVICES
-By the time this thing debuts, larger SSD Drives will be cheaper. Give us a big SSD and i will love you forever.
-Awesome media server and bluetooth audio/transmitter capabilites. We should already be using our
iPad as a remote headphone station. The cheapest piece of junk can do this nowadays, there's no reason the
ps3 cannot (is possible nao, i just mean mean without jumping through a ton of hoops and using 3rd party apps).
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I would like to see either the return of memory cards in addition to hard drive storage and/or the elimination of locked saves.

It's absolutely ridiculous that our information is tied to the hard drive and that the hard drive has to be formatted if it's removed. Cloud saves are cool, but come at a premium, so unless cloud saves become standard for all users, they need to supplement the increased risk to our data somehow.

The reliance on hard drives for saved data and the locking of save data have been the worst things about this generation of gaming...

-FULL CONTROL OVER THE PS4 WITH VITA AND ALL SUBSEQUENT DEVICES
-Awesome media server and bluetooth audio/transmitter capabilites. We should already be using our
iPad as a remote headphone station. The cheapest piece of junk can do this nowadays, there's no reason the
ps3 cannot (is possible nao, i just mean mean without jumping through a ton of hoops and using 3rd party apps).
-FALLOUT4 EXCLUSIVE

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I fully support these suggestions. Mobile devices have to be integrated into the console gaming experience. The sky is the limit with that. MS is already on to something with their Smart Glass app, which is why PS needs either Vita control, a Smart Glass equivalent or both.

I can control my entire computer with my phone via Magic Mouse and my 360 via Smart Glass which already has some cool gaming integration. WiiU with the tablet leaves Sony as the odd man out in this coming revolution of mobile device and console integration...

-FULL CONTROL OVER THE PS4 WITH VITA AND ALL SUBSEQUENT DEVICES
-Awesome media server and bluetooth audio/transmitter capabilites. We should already be using our
iPad as a remote headphone station. The cheapest piece of junk can do this nowadays, there's no reason the
ps3 cannot (is possible nao, i just mean mean without jumping through a ton of hoops and using 3rd party apps).
-FALLOUT4 EXCLUSIVE

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I fully support these suggestions. Mobile devices have to be integrated into the console gaming experience. The sky is the limit with that. MS is already on to something with their Smart Glass app, which is why PS needs either Vita control, a Smart Glass equivalent or both.

I can control my entire computer with my phone via Magic Mouse and my 360 via Smart Glass which already has some cool gaming integration. WiiU with the tablet leaves Sony as the odd man out in this coming revolution of mobile device and console integration...

-FULL CONTROL OVER THE PS4 WITH VITA AND ALL SUBSEQUENT DEVICES
-Awesome media server and bluetooth audio/transmitter capabilites. We should already be using our
iPad as a remote headphone station. The cheapest piece of junk can do this nowadays, there's no reason the
ps3 cannot (is possible nao, i just mean mean without jumping through a ton of hoops and using 3rd party apps).
-FALLOUT4 EXCLUSIVE

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I fully support these suggestions. Mobile devices have to be integrated into the console gaming experience. The sky is the limit with that. MS is already on to something with their Smart Glass app, which is why PS needs either Vita control, a Smart Glass equivalent or both.

I can control my entire computer with my phone via Magic Mouse and my 360 via Smart Glass which already has some cool gaming integration. WiiU with the tablet leaves Sony as the odd man out in this coming revolution of mobile device and console integration...

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Exactly, you hit the nail on the head.

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Something like that for Fallout would be game changing.

A dedicated device that serves the functions of the Pip Boy?!? Being touch screen, the Pip Boy can actually be fully functioning.

That's HUGE innovation.

I'd buy that game and whatever hardware it's on if it had integration like that...

Long thread, so apologies if it's been mentioned and I hope it doesn't seem like I'm slagging Sony:

I want features of PSN to be integrated into the core of the system - like Xbox Live.

This is just my understanding (and I could be completely wrong) but much of the info used by games for online sessions is stored/built into the Xbox console itself. That means that when developers code the MP part of a game, they just query some function/service of the console itself to get the relevant session info (party members, who you're chatting to, etc). Currently on PS3 it's up to devs to code that functionality themselves on a game by game basis. It's why some PS3 games let more than one profile sign in at once, and some don't. It's why some games have their own party system. I should be able to do this before even inserting the game disk.

One thing that also bothers me is the Downloadable Content portion of games that tend to feature it.

It's utterly useless.

It's a screen that tells me what DLC I have. I know that. In the rare occasion, it sucks me out to the PSN store to buy the stuff I need.

I need to be able to buy and install the content within the game itself without having to restart or reload.its been hinted that the next system may function lie that, but it needs to function like that...

One thing that also bothers me is the Downloadable Content portion of games that tend to feature it.

It's utterly useless.

It's a screen that tells me what DLC I have. I know that. In the rare occasion, it sucks me out to the PSN store to buy the stuff I need.

I need to be able to buy and install the content within the game itself without having to restart or reload.its been hinted that the next system may function lie that, but it needs to function like that...

Backwards compatibility would be nice.
Not charging $600 for it would also be good, but I know that's probably unlikely.

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If the console costs $600 at launch then you know that it will be a high-end piece of kit with the graphics horsepower to go the distance for the years to come. Something cheap would likely be outdated before it even launches, like the Wii U. Considering that firmware updates keep things fresh on current consoles (look how much the XBox360 interface has changed since launch) and console users are in general not crying out for another generation (if the comments on this and similar sites are any indication) I'd say anyone who can't afford the next gen at launch should be content to wait for the inevitable price cuts; in the meantime, publishers will keep supporting the PS3 and XBox360 because why would they abandon such a huge market?

Backwards compatibility would be nice.
Not charging $600 for it would also be good, but I know that's probably unlikely.

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If the console costs $600 at launch then you know that it will be a high-end piece of kit with the graphics horsepower to go the distance for the years to come. Something cheap would likely be outdated before it even launches, like the Wii U. Considering that firmware updates keep things fresh on current consoles (look how much the XBox360 interface has changed since launch) and console users are in general not crying out for another generation (if the comments on this and similar sites are any indication) I'd say anyone who can't afford the next gen at launch should be content to wait for the inevitable price cuts; in the meantime, publishers will keep supporting the PS3 and XBox360 because why would they abandon such a huge market?

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Sorry about this (I can't stop myself, my PC blood makes me): No matter how much the PS4 costs, it's going to be out-dated on launch . Plus since the Wii U and Xbox 720 are no beasts, all that extra power would go to wast, the devs will just up-scale the game for the PS4--like they do for PC ports.

I'd say anyone who can't afford the next gen at launch should be content to wait for the inevitable price cuts; in the meantime, publishers will keep supporting the PS3 and XBox360 because why would they abandon such a huge market?

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Well that's exactly it. Even when I replaced my aging PS2 with a PS3, I waited almost two years. The fact it had a Blu-Ray player built in wasn't much of a selling point for me, I personally would have rather it not have that feature and come out a little cheaper. Also as someone who loved his PS2, the PS3 wasn't very good as a 'successor' console. It was and is a good machine, with a lot of strong titles and decent exclusives, but when I was looking for a system to play the kind of games I enjoyed on the PS2, that console turned out to be the PSP.

So while your point is valid (though so is Hobbit's: for $600 I could overhaul much of my PC), combined with the fact most consoles usually take a year or two to build up a library worth playing, a high price tag along with coming out 'behind' the other two consoles could put Sony deep in the hole this gen.

For backwards compatibility for PS3, sure. But that's also the one most likely to be a given. I don't see including it for the older two Playstations to be much of an issue. Simple software emulation should handle that just fine.

If it really jacks up the price though, that's fine. Like I said, it's rarely worth it to get a console within the first two years anyway.

Backward compatibly is always a nice thing to have, and some of us only have a few HDMI ports and/or don't like having a ton of consoles by their TV.

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Them you want a more expensive piece of hardware.

The only reason backwards comparability makes sense is from a consumer level where you can trade your old system for benefit without really giving anything up. Meanwhile, the makers incur higher costs.

That's bad business.

I didn't even notice the absence of b/c while playing all the great games this gen. Gamers gotta let go, especially if you want lower prices...

- I want the OS to be on a small, but big enough, SSD.
- 1080p 60fps.
- I don't see full backwards compatibility becoming a reality, but Sony might then multiply their efforts on bringing back old PS/PS2 and, by then, PS3 titles (c'mon, at least be compatible with PS3!).
- Oh, nothing but USB 3.0, that surely will happen.

Some people are asking for what PS+ already offers: auto-synch trophies, auto-update firmware, save games are automatically iClouded and DLCs are automatically downloaded. I guess they argue i should be PSN default operations, which I can appreciate to some extent, but surely PS+ has to have some desirable advantages, otherwise nobody will buy the service. At least PSN is completely free.

Lots of great answers and ideas. Here's mine, and I will probably get BOOOOOed at, but I don't want to see a PS4. I am tired of trying to keep up with all the different consoles, games, exclusives, controllers, etc..., and then the PC too. Instead, I would like to see Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony join forces and make just one kick ass system that would last at least 10 to 15 years, fully backward compatible with ALL games of ALL times, simplified controller, and games very well developed and fully tested before releasing. The "Dream Machine"!

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The main fault with this idea is that they won't be competing and trying to achieve more and better than the competitor, because there'll be no competition. And when they're in a rut, there'll be no other console to kick them in the ass, they'll be perpetually stuck in a rut. It'll be like the masses who're tired of their government's inactive attitude, complaining... oh shit, where am I going - I'm not good at political analogy. You get the idea, no?

Here's a list off the top of my head in no particular order of importance:

- Well engineered console. Don't bottleneck it again like the PS3 with the memory, or design it around some proprietary chip and bizarre design that confuses developers.
- Test it better. We don't need a repeat of YLOD.
- Make PSN faster. I mean download speeds. Maybe this item should just say make PSN better. Either stop charging developers for bandwidth or make it cheaper so more PSN/PS4 games see demos. Make features like mute and party chat standard across the entire service.
- Design the UI/XMB better so it doesn't lag like crazy sometimes when you load it up. Also, if you get a notification for a message or invite or trophy and you hit the PS button on the controller, take us right to that notification.
- Of course, technology on par with MS.
- 1080p graphics and 60 frames per second.
- Make the controller sticks like the 360, not right next to each other.

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I agree with some of your stuff, but others are...odd.

But this is the second time you've mentioned the "mute across the entire service" as in, not all games have mute features? I have yet to see one...what exactly are you playing where you can't mute?

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MAG dosn't let you mute. Or I think so, I've only played that game for a week before I hated it.

I really don't expect BC. I would like to be able to play PS3 games on it. Maybe the deluxe model can play them? With late 2013 being the most logical release for the system it would be smart to have it be BC considering the lineup of PS3 games.

Backward compatibly is always a nice thing to have, and some of us only have a few HDMI ports and/or don't like having a ton of consoles by their TV.

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Them you want a more expensive piece of hardware.

The only reason backwards comparability makes sense is from a consumer level where you can trade your old system for benefit without really giving anything up. Meanwhile, the makers incur higher costs.

That's bad business.

I didn't even notice the absence of b/c while playing all the great games this gen. Gamers gotta let go, especially if you want lower prices...

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I understand that the PS3 has weird architecture and therefor BC won't be likely, unless it's significantly more expensive than it would be without BC. The reason I replied to your post is because you acted like "why would you want bc? it's stupid ", I was explaining why. You also have to remember: There isn't many games at the launch of a console--so it gives a something to play on a "new console" even though it's old, and not all of us own a PS3, and a lot of us would like to play PS3 games without buying a PS3, face it b/c is nice to have. And if your so concerned about extra stuff making the prices higher, you choose a weird console to support this gen, the PS3 had a Blu-ray player and a Cell CPU, that just so happened to add $300-$400 to the cost of making the console.

Backwards compatibility would be nice.
Not charging $600 for it would also be good, but I know that's probably unlikely.

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If the console costs $600 at launch then you know that it will be a high-end piece of kit with the graphics horsepower to go the distance for the years to come. Something cheap would likely be outdated before it even launches, like the Wii U. Considering that firmware updates keep things fresh on current consoles (look how much the XBox360 interface has changed since launch) and console users are in general not crying out for another generation (if the comments on this and similar sites are any indication) I'd say anyone who can't afford the next gen at launch should be content to wait for the inevitable price cuts; in the meantime, publishers will keep supporting the PS3 and XBox360 because why would they abandon such a huge market?

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Sorry about this (I can't stop myself, my PC blood makes me): No matter how much the PS4 costs, it's going to be out-dated on launch . Plus since the Wii U and Xbox 720 are no beasts, all that extra power would go to wast, the devs will just up-scale the game for the PS4--like they do for PC ports.

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Well I think one of their overall goals of next gen should be to make a powerful and easy to develop for system so they can get all that old third party support back and then some.

Backward compatibly is always a nice thing to have, and some of us only have a few HDMI ports and/or don't like having a ton of consoles by their TV.

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Them you want a more expensive piece of hardware.

The only reason backwards comparability makes sense is from a consumer level where you can trade your old system for benefit without really giving anything up. Meanwhile, the makers incur higher costs.

That's bad business.

I didn't even notice the absence of b/c while playing all the great games this gen. Gamers gotta let go, especially if you want lower prices...

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I understand that the PS3 has weird architecture and therefor BC won't be likely, unless it's significantly more expensive than it would be without BC. The reason I replied to your post is because you acted like "why would you want bc? it's stupid ", I was explaining why. You also have to remember: There isn't many games at the launch of a console--so it gives a something to play on a "new console" even though it's old, and not all of us own a PS3, and a lot of us would like to play PS3 games without buying a PS3, face it b/c is nice to have. And if your so concerned about extra stuff making the prices higher, you choose a weird console to support this gen, the PS3 had a Blu-ray player and a Cell CPU, that just so happened to add $300-$400 to the cost of making the console.

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Progressive tech is necessary, regressive tech is not.

You can interpret what I said any way you'd like, but the point doesn't change. B/c makes it more expensive when you already have that hardware. Make it work. Are you really telling me that people should basically get a free, or substantially marked down PS3...because they want to play PS3 games without buying a PS3?!?

People want all the bells and whistles, but don't want to pay for it...

Backwards compatibility was a definite selling point for me when I got my PS2. I didn't have a PSX so it was good to be able to play some of the classics that I missed the first time around. That's why I think they should try and include BC in the PS4 if it doesn't ramp prices up too much.

Backwards compatibility was a definite selling point for me when I got my PS2. I didn't have a PSX so it was good to be able to play some of the classics that I missed the first time around. That's why I think they should try and include BC in the PS4 if it doesn't ramp prices up too much.

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In that case, buy the classics in the PS Store... no need to put an expensive chip in there...

Backwards compatibility was a definite selling point for me when I got my PS2. I didn't have a PSX so it was good to be able to play some of the classics that I missed the first time around. That's why I think they should try and include BC in the PS4 if it doesn't ramp prices up too much.

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In that case, buy the classics in the PS Store... no need to put an expensive chip in there...

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Good point. That's what I do now days - if the game's actually on the PSN store that is. The Australian PS Classics range on PSN is severely lacking in comparison to the US.

In any case, the hassle unplugging consoles, rifling through cupboards for old consoles, finding your old games, making room in your entertainment unit, then temporarily plugging in the old console is a great one. Clearly there are many people who would be prepared to pay for the convenience of avoiding that. Why not develop two models of PS4 - one with BC, and one without? Or they could go down the software emulation route, and offer it as a purchasable app on PSN or something.