At a proper place, with a proper tattooist, that's a £500 tattoo. Photographic black and white shading is about as hard as tattooing comes. So the story is basically "Woman complains about $50 tattoo she paid £50 for".

Normally I agree with these assessments, especially for english people(they tend to get rode hard and put away wet), but she's not all that bad. Skin is full and clear(aside from the tat). No wrinkles on her face at all, has youthful smoothness.

Freakish paleness around her lips though, probably fake bakes and doesn't understand that lipstick/chapstick only goes on the lips...

Normally I agree with these assessments, especially for english people(they tend to get rode hard and put away wet), but she's not all that bad. Skin is full and clear(aside from the tat). No wrinkles on her face at all, has youthful smoothness.

Freakish paleness around her lips though, probably fake bakes and doesn't understand that lipstick/chapstick only goes on the lips...

But late 20s or 30s? You're on crack.

/not very attractive though//youth =\= pretty features

To me, she look like a 35 year old who's looked after herself and stayed out the sun.

Bungles:To me, she look like a 35 year old who's looked after herself and stayed out the sun.

OK, I'll re-phrase.

You are letting things like bone structure and facial expression and style choice influence your perception/guess of her age.

The only indicators of age are condition of the skin.(unless you're comparing significantly younger people, they will tend to have softer/rounder faces, but it's not strange for sharper/different bone structure to surface in the late teens).

Now, her skin is just starting to barely lose it's smoothness natural to a youth. In another 5-10 years she may age 10-20 visibly. The upside down crosses on her shirt and her obviously low intelligence level would lead me to bet that is will be the case.

But as of right now, she doesn't look too bad for her age(again, disregarding things like bone structure and musculature). Her skin is not haggard, saggy, or wrinkled, or hollow.

You may as well be guessing she has implants and athlete's foot. There simply isn't any indication of that and you're winging it without having actually analyzed relevant traits without bias.

omeganuepsilon:Bungles: To me, she look like a 35 year old who's looked after herself and stayed out the sun.

OK, I'll re-phrase.

You are letting things like bone structure and facial expression and style choice influence your perception/guess of her age.

The only indicators of age are condition of the skin.(unless you're comparing significantly younger people, they will tend to have softer/rounder faces, but it's not strange for sharper/different bone structure to surface in the late teens).

Now, her skin is just starting to barely lose it's smoothness natural to a youth. In another 5-10 years she may age 10-20 visibly. The upside down crosses on her shirt and her obviously low intelligence level would lead me to bet that is will be the case.

But as of right now, she doesn't look too bad for her age(again, disregarding things like bone structure and musculature). Her skin is not haggard, saggy, or wrinkled, or hollow.

You may as well be guessing she has implants and athlete's foot. There simply isn't any indication of that and you're winging it without having actually analyzed relevant traits without bias.

That's not so true any more. I think she looks like someone in their 30s who uses a retinoid moisturiser.

Maybe he didn't like her and she was complaining about the pain. I know tattoo artists like this, and that wreck could easily be fixed. It looks like a generic outline.. Add darker outline and color, and Ta-Da.. Congrats, you have a whore on your arm.

JohnnyRebel88:Maybe he didn't like her and she was complaining about the pain. I know tattoo artists like this, and that wreck could easily be fixed. It looks like a generic outline.. Add darker outline and color, and Ta-Da.. Congrats, you have a whore on your arm.

Before anyone posts the "awful wedding photo tattoo", bear in mind that recently a REAL tattoo artist had seen this insult to all tattoo artists and offered to correct the hack's job into a more pleasant looking version, for free.

TV's Vinnie:Before anyone posts the "awful wedding photo tattoo", bear in mind that recently a REAL tattoo artist had seen this insult to all tattoo artists and offered to correct the hack's job into a more pleasant looking version, for free

Good portraits are incredibly hard in media where you can erase things and start over. They are an exceptionally bad idea for a tattoo unless you have a truly gifted artist. Even then, they're still usually a bad idea.

To be fair there is no right way to do "Marilyn" that in a way has a semblance to what a mostly cooked up fiend would expect out of Mogadishu./this thread needs more Patrick Swayze centaur awfullness,,,, I don't want to go there hehe

As someone who commuted to a jerb in Glasgow from a rented an apartment in Burnbank (locally known as The Jungle, I kid you not), I'd say she's kinda hot, and looks quite young for coming from that area. (yes, really)

I still think she should persue through the civil courts for all costs to cover up/remove that horrifying inkbortion