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Best pokemon? (no legendaries)

I Think gallade might be one of the best ones. because with the naughty nature, which ups the attack. my level 50 gallade has 157 attack. now that may not be too much but hes only lvl 50. but if you multiply 157 by 2 you get 307 attack at lvl 100 not to mention that he has leaf blade, psycho cut, shadow claw, and swords dance. by the way incase you didnt know all my attacks have a high crit. hit.

why is garchomp and uber? he falls to a good ice attack in one hit with his four times weakness

Originally Posted by Pants, and the beast dwelling within

salamence is great, but i think gengar is more fun

i think salamance is also four times weak to ice, i cant beleive they are so popular

anyway my vote is for surprise surprise, sceptile for the following

life orb
over grow
awesome speed (fastest pure grass pokemon and only second when it comes to grass to shaymin sky forme but he is still 16 fastest and fifty fourth out of hundreds in special attack.)
along with giga drain which along with life orb, STAB, his awesome SAtk and even pitch in overgrow if you think he wont last long and you get something stronger than a hyper beam with no draw back that heals you even without over grow match it with life orb and its about the power of hyper beam maybe about 10 points less but can do more damage in the two turns that hyper beams uses up plus heals you.
now replace that with a sunny day solar beam which he can set up on his own about 50 more base attack without any other factors it way outclasses hyper beam for him and they booth take the same amount of turns so here is the deadly solo set i would use him as

Sceptile
Nature would be to up SAtk and get rid of Atk
EV train him for HP and SAtk with the last bit for speed or just make sure he can outspeed anything by ev training his speed but i recon he is good enough as it is
-giga drain(STAB)
-sunny day(solar beam spamming!)
-Solar beam
-Hidden power rock

or if you want to be completely safe go with
-Hidden power fire
-Earth quake
-rock slide/rock type move
-giga drain
that set lets you hit anything that is super effective on him or resists him for super effective damage, minus dragon which is hit for neutral or you could just use dragon claw and hidden power fire but its not exactly much coverage

The problem with Salamence and Garchomp in 4th gen.
Ha Garchomp is weak to ice, *switch in mamoswine* *mamoswine gets 1HKOed*
or better yet you predict a swords dance switch in after something dies
*garchomp switches out*
Both can take an ice shard with the ice berry too, then your screwed.

Im no advocating their banning though, both of them has their counters, just use them, Yes salamence can go mixed, but the mixed set should not be able to sweep you.