The Jews were rumoured to steal children and kill them. And its a well identified Roma crime to do this, I have lived near Roma and have had the fortune to meet some that got out of Roma life. I know you're trying to be politically correct, but that's the type of blindness that let's this problem thrive. Also comparison to the U.S. is a void comparison because this has nothing to do with the U.S. and the U.S. has no experience with the Roma issue, so please don't feign insight.

Nice edit of your reply after I had replied. The Roma are a culture and not a race. And ignoring a whole groups extensive criminally activity is shutting ones eyes in fear of being called a racist, but I guess you would rather see children be abducted than risk not looking politically correct.

If racism required a clearly defined target race, there would be none, but that clearly does not solve any of the problems with racism we still have. So maybe a definition that understands racism as any prejudice based on offspring is more appropriate.

How you define racism isn't going to change the fact that people are prejudiced against different "peoples/cultures" like the Jews or the Roma. I didn't downvote you but maybe I should get a better education anyway because I don't understand you.

We're seriously getting side-tracked here. It all started with cpriker claiming that

The Roma are a culture and not a race.

which doesn't mean anything since a) race is not meaningful applied to humans and b) racism is not strictly about biologisms, but also applies to prejudices towards cultures like the Jewish and Roma. And while anti-semitism is now commonly regarded as bad and no one would think it's ok to call people the n-word, here, we still go around and both speak of "gypsies" and show the worst prejudices / anti-ziganism quite routinely here.

Yeah I can see that, I just didn't really understand why you were saying we should change the definition of racism. Races are races and racism is bias for/against races which exists no matter what you call it.

There's also only one canis lupus familiaris, but I still wouldn't say a Chihuahua and a Rottweiler are the same dog. Also there are a plethora of differences across ethnicities, neither good nor bad, but differences resulting from differential survival pressures influences people across the globe differently. Furthermore due to epigenetic evolution and cultural adaptation different groups have people have developed different cultures to deal with different circumstances and these cultures are deeply ingrained into people. Yet again, not better or worse, but different. People are very different, the notion that all humans are the same is pretty ignorant. Maybe you should educate yourself a little...

"
While biologists sometimes use the concept of race to make distinctions among fuzzy sets of traits, others in the scientific community suggest that the idea of race often is used in a naive[4] or simplistic way,[5] because among humans, race has no taxonomic significance: all living humans belong to the same species, Homo sapiens and subspecies, Homo sapiens sapiens.[6][7]
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As anthropologists and other evolutionary scientists have shifted away from the language of race to the term population to talk about genetic differences, historians, cultural anthropologists and other social scientists re-conceptualized the term "race" as a cultural category or social construct—a particular way that some people talk about themselves and others." -- Race (human classification)

Edit Edit: For unscientific stuff I found this , but I don't know how valid it is. However, it should be noted the differences aren't a bloody bad thing for god's sake! It would be weird as hell if we were all identical, physically identical, and had identical cognitive patterns.

You didn't even read the article did you. I'm talking to someone who is dense aren't I? Differences are good, because if we all were the same, physiologically the same and with the same capabilities we would be susceptible to the same environmental dangers. Differences keep us alive and well you daft idiot.

They told me they are happy and lucky to make it out of Roma culture. In particular one girl she said she is embarrassed to be Roma. However my anecdotes are irrelevant as the crime statistics resulting from Roma speak for themselves.