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They aren't that far away, but they need to be looking at more than a "slightly below average player who wants a shot at playing everyday" for the outfield. With David Wright the only salary commitment for 2014 for more than the $5M they'll be paying Jonathan Niese, this team could easily afford to be in the bidding for the likes of Josh Hamilton.

With a core of Wright, Davis, Hamilton, Dickey, Harvey, Niese, Santana, there's a real chance the supporting cast could come together enough to contend. Right now they're at least one really good player short.

Ludwick had a 133 wRC+ which is park adjusted, so that is extremely good, and offensive production we would sorely use. His wOBA was better on the road than at home. He'd be a perfect #5 hitter in our line-up.

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Ludwick could certainly help offensively, as could Reed Johnson in a platoon role.

they aren't that far away, but they need to be looking at more than a "slightly below average player who wants a shot at playing everyday" for the outfield. With david wright the only salary commitment for 2014 for more than the $5m they'll be paying jonathan niese, this team could easily afford to be in the bidding for the likes of josh hamilton.

With a core of wright, davis, hamilton, dickey, harvey, niese, santana, there's a real chance the supporting cast could come together enough to contend. Right now they're at least one really good player short.

why would hamilton want to come to the mets?????????? Oh anybody remember where one player away and we signed Jason Bay second biggest free agent mistake jus tbehind Bobby Bonillia

Last edited by fifthangelkai; 11-30-2012 at 10:43 PM.
Reason: just adding to it

A trade for Willingham would be ideal. He'd be a perfect fit on this team but that would obviously be asking for too much. Willingham and Upton are the only two players on the trade market that would be worth acquiring.

As for the free agent market, Cody Ross and Ryan Ludwick are the only two viable options. Both are nice steady moderately powerful bats from the right side.

Unless we could somehow net young major league ready talent for Dickey. I could dream of a Dickey + Flores for Myers. However, that's asking for too much.

A trade for Willingham would be ideal. He'd be a perfect fit on this team but that would obviously be asking for too much. Willingham and Upton are the only two players on the trade market that would be worth acquiring.

As for the free agent market, Cody Ross and Ryan Ludwick are the only two viable options. Both are nice steady moderately powerful bats from the right side.

Unless we could somehow net young major league ready talent for Dickey. I could dream of a Dickey + Flores for Myers. However, that's asking for too much.

Hell, anything would be better than the atrocity we currently have.

Yep.

They have to do something with this OF if they think they have any chance of competing next year.

dude thats a terrible outfield.... how many can u name that would be a worse outfield in baseball than that? Not many i'm sure.... don't kid yourself.

Average? Yes. Terrible? No. Sexy? Definitely not, but it's definitely better than what we threw out there this season.

Duda was a negative asset(-1.1 WAR) and was consistently poor on the bases and on defense. Baxter could easily put up a 2-3 WAR imo, he was a sneaky good player last year.

Ludwick is a legit power threat(.373 wOBA, .256 ISO, 133 wRC+) that will help us immensely. He's probably a below average fielder out there at this point, but he won't kill you out there.

I don't think we've seen the best of Kirk Nieuwenhuis. Teams will do worse than him in CF, and I think he will make some adjustments to the league 2nd time around. He's going to be 25 for the majority of next season, so he has time to do it. Torres could be brought back cheap too if we want to platoon them.

Better defense will make our pitching even better, as run prevention is important too.

They are basically two outfielders: one with power and one with speed away from competing. That's a little, but also a lot depending on how you look at it. We need a leadoff hitter to drop Tejada to 8.

Average? Yes. Terrible? No. Sexy? Definitely not, but it's definitely better than what we threw out there this season.

Duda was a negative asset(-1.1 WAR) and was consistently poor on the bases and on defense. Baxter could easily put up a 2-3 WAR imo, he was a sneaky good player last year.

Ludwick is a legit power threat(.373 wOBA, .256 ISO, 133 wRC+) that will help us immensely. He's probably a below average fielder out there at this point, but he won't kill you out there.

I don't think we've seen the best of Kirk Nieuwenhuis. Teams will do worse than him in CF, and I think he will make some adjustments to the league 2nd time around. He's going to be 25 for the majority of next season, so he has time to do it. Torres could be brought back cheap too if we want to platoon them.

Better defense will make our pitching even better, as run prevention is important too.

sorry your post lost all credibility when you suggested Torres being brough back as a platoon. Literally anyone else on our roster and probably in AAA would be better than him.