< snip > San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon said Wednesday his deputies did not intentionally burn down the cabin. His deputies shot pyrotechnic tear gas into the cabin, and it erupted in flames, he said.

McMahon did not say directly that the tear gas started the blaze, and the cause of the fire remained unclear.

A charred body was found in the basement, along with a wallet and personal items, including a California driver's license with the name Christopher Dorner, an official briefed on the investigation told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing probe.

So I guess when I heard them say on the scanner that they were ‘going with burn plan’ ....then a few minutes later...’burners deployed’ and then ‘we have fire’, I was just hearing things or misunderstanding. Got it.

I heard it all in real time yesterday with my own ears.

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posted on 02/13/2013 5:26:09 PM PST
by penelopesire
(TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)

I wonder how many civilian posses burned outlaws out of their hideouts only to dangle them from the nearest tree?

Last time it happened in my little town was about 150 years ago. As I understand the story a rapist was hiding in a barn so the locals torched it. He ran out and ended up hanging from a bridge less than 100 yards from where I sit.

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posted on 02/13/2013 5:37:22 PM PST
by cripplecreek
(REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)

Hey there you!! LOL..not sure what to think anymore. LAPD shooting up surfer dudes and newspaper people last week and now burning down private property. Wondering though if this will be how they come for our guns next. Just burn people out of their homes. That some cannot see the slippery slope astounds me. I could be wrong of course. Nice to see you around!! Tell TheMom hello!

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posted on 02/13/2013 5:47:50 PM PST
by penelopesire
(TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)

They didn’t want it to come to trial, because it would be a race-baiting clown circus, with the media jumping through hoops.

Also, possibly, because he was fired earlier from the LAPD not for lying about his fellow cops, but because he spoke out when he was supposed to shut up and go along with it. That would by no means excuse his going around shooting people, including innocent victims who had nothing to do with his firing. But it might explain why the LAPD wanted him dead.

Also, he was going around shooting LEOs all over the place, which is not a permissable activity.

This appears to have been rough justice. On the other hand, even if his charges against the LAPD were true—which is in question—I think he had earned the death penalty for many deliberate murders, and more in the future if he was given the chance. And California has no death penalty for murder.

I don’t like to see cops taking the law into their own hands—but that’s what happens when the justice system breaks down.

Hey thanks Eaker! Here is what I posted on the other thread if anyone is interested:

Here are the times and what I tweeted(just went back and wrote it all down) Keep in mind time for typing and that this was after Dorner had holed up in the cabin and the shoot out in the street.

4:26 pm orders heard given not to fire on house unless something seen coming from house
4:29 cops say they have plenty of help up here, no more officers needed
5:00 reports of checking missing person report and possible hostages
5:57 heard them say they were going to the burn plan.
6:15 report of possible gas coming from the house
6:17 burners deployed and we have fire
6:20 called for fire engines
6:21 shots fired from inside house
6:23 ammo exploding

Those are times and contents of my tweets while listening to the scanner for those interested. I also lost scanner feed for a time before all of this came in loud and clear.

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posted on 02/13/2013 5:52:20 PM PST
by penelopesire
(TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)

When you lob pyrotechnic tear gas into a dwelling, there is a high likelihood it will start a fire. And with no fireman around to put it out, there is a further high likelihood it will burn out of control. And when it burns outta control there is also a high likelihood it will burn the building down. So these are the guys with the guns and who do not want us to have em.

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posted on 02/13/2013 5:58:58 PM PST
by SgtHooper
(The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)

>>We threatened to burn the barn if he did not surrender; at one time gave him ten minutes to make up his mind. Finally, Booth said, “Oh; Captain, there is a man here who wants to surrender awful bad:” I answered, and I think Mr. Baker did at the same time, “Hand out your arms.” Herold replied, “I have none.” Baker said, “We know exactly what you have got.” Booth replied, “I own all the arms, and intend to use them on you gentlemen.” After some little parley I said, “Let him out.” Some one objected. I ordered Garrett, the younger son, who had the key, to unlock the barn, which he did. I partially opened the door, and told Herold to put out his hand, which he did. I then told him to put [out] his other hand. I took hold of both his wrists and pulled him out of the barn. Almost simultaneous with my taking Herold out of the barn the hay in the rear of the barn was ignited by Mr. Conger, and the barn fired. Sergt. Boston Corbett, Company L, Sixteenth New York Cavalry, shot the assassin Booth, wounding him in the neck.<<

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posted on 02/13/2013 6:07:36 PM PST
by cripplecreek
(REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)

Exactly. The guy was a cop-killer. There’s an age-old American tradition of cop-killers not exactly making it far. This was hardly some wildly new scenario. It was downright expected. Just a shame an innocent cabin bit the dust.

Heck, I recall locally here in Texas, when I was in college, a couple of troopers were transporting a convicted multiple-murderer from one prison to another. Well, they stopped at a place for some coffee. And the handcuffed convict “supposedly” tried to escape by jumping out of the car and running into the woods. He had a bullet in his back before he got beyond sight of the car. Exit one scumbag. Nobody even made a stink!

Pyrotechnic tear gas has been gone from the barricaded suspect repertoire for the past 30 years for exactly this reason. In the 60 s and 70s we burned down houses just about anytime the old Flight rite round went in.

Unacceptable today. Non-pyro aerosol rounds have been around for three decades. Micro crystallized CS blowers, etc.

But then again wild bursts of gun fire at innocent civilians is also considered impolite. My esteemed colleagues on the left coast seem to have lost their minds. They are after all creatures and products of their parent political systems.

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