Anyone watching this? I really don't like it when people tell others what they should or shouldn't eat. The restrictions on salt, trans fat and other things really drive me nuts as a over-stepping of government. However, this show is really interesting. So far he has tried to fight the lunch ladies and bureaucracy that is the school lunch system. It is simply amazing that his roasted chicken leg, with salad and brown rice doesn't meat the USDA guidelines, but the Cheese Pizza, neon pink milk stuff, and some carrot sticks do. Government knows best

I know where this is probably going to go, I was torn between TV/Movies and NHB, but whatever, it can always be moved.

Unfortunately, so many people are ignorant just like the locals were on this show...

Jamie's not trying to force "real" food on anybody, but he is trying to educate people on what "real" food is...pretty effing simple, it's one ingredient!!! Meat is meat, cheese is cheese, apple sauce is apple sauce...Not something that has 9 added chemicals after it...Wow, rocket science

We've gotten so lazy as a society that we don't care to prepare or eat properly anymore and we want to know why there's more heart disease, diabetes & cancer? The government's full of shit and think that by taxing the same crap that they have their hands into will honestly make a difference?

There's a problem when you can buy a so-called burger from a fastfood place cheaper than you can get a stalk of celery or a grapefruit...

Thought it was hilarious when the lunch lady was getting pissed being called a "lunch lady"

Ziner wrote:Anyone watching this? I really don't like it when people tell others what they should or shouldn't eat. The restrictions on salt, trans fat and other things really drive me nuts as a over-stepping of government. However, this show is really interesting. So far he has tried to fight the lunch ladies and bureaucracy that is the school lunch system. It is simply amazing that his roasted chicken leg, with salad and brown rice doesn't meat the USDA guidelines, but the Cheese Pizza, neon pink milk stuff, and some carrot sticks do. Government knows best

I know where this is probably going to go, I was torn between TV/Movies and NHB, but whatever, it can always be moved.

You gotta be torn on this one, dawg.

What socialist boogeyman are you gonna rail against if you have to pick sides?

The intrusive limey who wants you to MAKE a bunch of fat billies eat healthy so half aren't obese or the 'crats setting nincompoop guidelines or Michelle trying to get after them, too?

Ziner wrote:Anyone watching this? I really don't like it when people tell others what they should or shouldn't eat. The restrictions on salt, trans fat and other things really drive me nuts as a over-stepping of government. However, this show is really interesting. So far he has tried to fight the lunch ladies and bureaucracy that is the school lunch system. It is simply amazing that his roasted chicken leg, with salad and brown rice doesn't meat the USDA guidelines, but the Cheese Pizza, neon pink milk stuff, and some carrot sticks do. Government knows best

I know where this is probably going to go, I was torn between TV/Movies and NHB, but whatever, it can always be moved.

You gotta be torn on this one, dawg.

What socialist boogeyman are you gonna rail against?

The limey who wants you to MAKE a bucnh of fat billies eat healthy so half aren't obese or the 'crats setting nincompoop guidelines or Michelle trying to get after them, too?

What's a over-reactionary politicizin' ehrything poster to do?

Pssst - The Pacific was on.

If you would have watched the show or even prodded me about it a bit more this post wouldn't look so foolish. You are easily becoming the most "politicizin' everything" poster here. Aren't there some dying and orphaned Haitian kids you can go kick?

See Jamie Oliver isn't MAKING anyone do anything, he is simply showing people what they are eating and presenting alternatives. I can respect that method. What I don't respect is some government organization tell people what they shouldn't eat. If someone doesn't want to eat trans fat or salt, well then don't eat in that restaurant.

Side note: You have built up a caricature of myself and other posters who disagree with some of your beliefs and continue to debate with some caricature that doesn't represent real views. It isn't helping the debates and frankly it is getting tired and played out. That crap doesn't add to the argument, I miss the JB that would debate intelligently with no BS, that JB I learned from.

Ziner wrote:Anyone watching this? I really don't like it when people tell others what they should or shouldn't eat. The restrictions on salt, trans fat and other things really drive me nuts as a over-stepping of government. However, this show is really interesting. So far he has tried to fight the lunch ladies and bureaucracy that is the school lunch system. It is simply amazing that his roasted chicken leg, with salad and brown rice doesn't meat the USDA guidelines, but the Cheese Pizza, neon pink milk stuff, and some carrot sticks do. Government knows best

I know where this is probably going to go, I was torn between TV/Movies and NHB, but whatever, it can always be moved.

You gotta be torn on this one, dawg.

What socialist boogeyman are you gonna rail against?

The limey who wants you to MAKE a bucnh of fat billies eat healthy so half aren't obese or the 'crats setting nincompoop guidelines or Michelle trying to get after them, too?

What's a over-reactionary politicizin' ehrything poster to do?

Pssst - The Pacific was on.

If you would have watched the show or even prodded me about it a bit more this post wouldn't look so foolish. You are easily becoming the most "politicizin' everything" poster here. Aren't there some dying and orphaned Haitian kids you can go kick?

See Jamie Oliver isn't MAKING anyone do anything, he is simply showing people what they are eating and presenting alternatives. I can respect that method. What I don't respect is some government organization tell people what they shouldn't eat. If someone doesn't want to eat trans fat or salt, well then don't eat in that restaurant.

Side note: You have built up a caricature of myself and other posters who disagree with some of your beliefs and continue to debate with some caricature that doesn't represent real views. It isn't helping the debates and frankly it is getting tired and played out. That crap doesn't add to the argument, I miss the JB that would debate intelligently with no BS, that JB I learned from.

For crissakes I was hiding behind a couch iconnning.

You prefer this -> or ;-)

and you did bring he ole anti-gubmit rant into a show about the cryin' limey trying to save the super sized. so you got tweaked good naturedly?

And I did go on a small anti government rant because there shouldnt be that much red tape to feed our children something healthy. The show airs again next friday, watch it if you have nothing to do (they probably ruined the shows chances by putting it on a friday, but dvr it if you think about it)

The fact that he needs to add a hamburger bun to his meal of roasted chicken leg, brown rice and a salad to meet guidelines provided by the USDA is ridiculous. Forgive me if I dont think the government is always the answer.

p.s. and I do eventually plan to get around to addressing the elephant in the room in NHB. I dont have the time to put to it that I would like to, but probably much to your surprise I dont hate all of the health care plan...of course I do hate some of it. I'll leave it at that for now. GASP... I didnt toe the line.... Next time you dont let me know

Ziner wrote:The fact that he needs to add a hamburger bun to his meal of roasted chicken leg, brown rice and a salad to meet guidelines provided by the USDA is ridiculous. Forgive me if I dont think the government is always the answer.

I didn't watch that show, and I'm glad now I didn't. The USDA "food pyramid" is so unrealistic, and if anything that hamburger bun is going to make the kids fatter than the rest of the ingredients combined.

Ziner wrote:The fact that he needs to add a hamburger bun to his meal of roasted chicken leg, brown rice and a salad to meet guidelines provided by the USDA is ridiculous. Forgive me if I dont think the government is always the answer.

I didn't watch that show, and I'm glad now I didn't. The USDA "food pyramid" is so unrealistic, and if anything that hamburger bun is going to make the kids fatter than the rest of the ingredients combined.

Ziner wrote:To be fair I feel like is a shit is going to hit the fan smiley

while this and this are more of a joking manner.

Next time you dont let me know

Ah. K.

I just got tired of being pric to you & Adam, so I thought I'd give us all a standing 8 count. If I dislike you as a poster it'd be more fun. But don't worry, I'l post drunk again soon and be a total basterd.

Who says our politicians can't agree on anything. And yes, I know it costs more money and I bitch as much as anyone on spending. However, I prefer that if we are paying X dollars for shit food, I'd rather pay X + 4.5 billion and not give the children garbage. If they want the garbage they can bring it from home, god knows enough of them have nothing but garbage at home.

Lets just hope it contains more sensible food requirements. No more hamburger bun additions to make a meal "healthier"

According to The Straight Dope (a pretty good middle-of-the-road source for weird info like this), the story is a bit more complicated than Reagan calling ketchup a serving or fruit/veggies:

In mid-1981, only a few months after Reagan took office, Congress cut $1 billion from child-nutrition funding and gave the USDA 90 days--the blink of an eye, for the federal bureaucracy--to come up with new standards that would enable school districts to economize, in theory without compromising nutrition.

The USDA convened a panel of nutritionists and food service directors to ponder what to do. One option on the table--no one later would admit to putting it there--was to "accept catsup as a fruit/vegetable when used as an ingredient." Some panel members seized on this as an opportunity to discuss whether to count ketchup even if used as a condiment. From what I can tell, the motive wasn't so much penuriousness as trying to face facts about what kids would actually eat. USDA standards at the time required that a reimbursable lunch consist of five items: meat, milk, bread, and two servings of fruit or vegetables.