<DS> One time at origins I was in a DnD game and I got some sweet armor <DS> and the DM was like 'but it's cursed, it has a terrible drawback! <DS> When you put it on it changes you into a woman!'<DS> And I was like 'How is that a drawback?'<DS> and he got confused<Glocks4Interns> you think this but when the DM was doling out treasure you only got 87 silver pieces on the dragon.

<Sharkey> IT'S TOO FUCKING CUTE SMASH<Sharkey> Makes little squeeking sounds. Follows me EVERYWHERE.<Sharkey> Though it did loiter in the living room for quite a while. Was watching Robinson Crusoe on Mars. Wish it'd go back to that.<Sharkey> I fed it. I gave it water. I showed it where to shit. WHAT DOES IT WANT?

<Sharkey> It won't always be a kitten.<Zaratustra> OMG IT'S A WEREKITTEN

<Sharkey> Keeps trying to sleep on me.<Moctobot> how can you not let a kitten sleep on you<Sharkey> Because it keeps trying to sleep on my hands.<Moctobot> oh<Moctobot> that might be problematic, I guess

<Sharkey> Makine squeeking noises again.<Sharkey> WHAT DO Y OU WNAJ<Sharkey> GET OOF THE KYBARD<McDohl> NO WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE CAT THAT SHARKEY IS SEEING IN A DRUNKEN STUPOR.<Sharkey> No, it's a real cat.<Sharkey> I'm not drunk. It spilled my beer, remember?

<Sharkey> I almost got her to name it Ritalin.<Mediocrity> That's a good name!<McDohl> Awesome.<Onomarchus> Almost? Who wouldn't love Ritalin?<terra> That's a great name. What's wrong with her?<Frocto> Phew.<Sharkey> She may still go for it, if I push it.<Mediocrity> Push it.

<Sharkey> Given its behavior over the last couple minutes, I'm thinking Facehugger.<Sharkey> Get the fuck off me, you smell like a kitten.<Sharkey> Animals love me. Animals and children.<Sharkey> Plants die when I touch them. Go fig.

<Brentai> Just think of it this way. TIME TO FEED _____. HAVE YOU SEEN _____. _____ SHAT ALL OVER MY JOURNEY LPS.<Sharkey> I favor Miss Tron in that context.<Brentai> My Pussy works but you'd have to be more subtle.<SailorPsychick> "Honey, have you seen Miss Tron?" "Yeah, she's been under the couch all day, since you beat the hell out of her with that newspaper! You're so mean to that animal!"<Sharkey> Miss Tron! Shit in your box, not on my Blondie albums. *squirt bottle*<Brentai> ...you SHOULD sound like a Servbot when you say that shit.<SailorPsychick> It'll be horrible when Miss Tron goes into heat and you have to get her spayed<Brentai> Miss Tron, it's time to get you spayed!<Brentai> ...get off my wavelength, Psychick.

And later, by Sharkey: We did eventually name it Ritalin. My mother's a child psychologist. She was suitably aghast.

Decades late update: We broke up and she kept the fucking cat and renamed it Rita Hayworth, apparently. I say "it" like I hated the thing but I guess it made an okay hat when it was alive. Like the Homeward Bound animals, that cat is dead by now.

Still plagued by the fucking things. There's one trying to claw its way through my office door at this exact fucking moment because cat reasons. Like I dunno I'm shirking my quest for Kaddath and we have to go to the moon or something I dunno cats are fuckin crazy and they don't let up with their shit basically ever and yup it's sitting on my handssOENSfuckiqt

So on the magic forums there was another of those random endless arguments between white kids about how to best combat racism, and nothing new or interesting was said.

However, one fella who was playing the part of the VERY COMMON clueless white guy who says "I teach my kids not be racist, so we just need to wait for old people to die. Isn't that enough?", which led to maybe the best analogy I've ever seen for why that is insufficient:

Draconis wrote:Maybe an analogy will help to explain one problem that a lot of people have with this?

Judaism basically operates like this. It concerns itself primarily with accurate replication within an existing community. Parents teach their kids, those kids teach their kids, etc etc. The actual content of the beliefs is relatively very faithfully replicated. The actual total number of people holding those beliefs is on a very slow upward trend, peaking at about 15 million in the 40s and recovering to about 13-14 now. This is the model you seem to be suggesting for dealing with racism.

Christianity is a proselytizing religion. It considers expansion and conversion to be core principles, instead of maintenance. Churches send out missionaries, they distribute bibles, they advertise, they do outreach. The religion also happily adapts to local customs, local cultures, local circumstances. As long as you hit the main big ideas, it's cool. They find people that aren't believers yet, but are primed to be converted, and they pitch to them. There are a lot more than 14 million Christians, and Judaism had a real big head start.

What you described is basically Judaism. It reads as 'non-racists should just be concerned with making sure their own kids aren't racist'. That is both not something that those people can guarantee, but it definitionally can't do anything about the children of active racists, or the children of parents who just don't particularly care about race.

White supremacists are following the model of a proselytizing religion. They are actively recruiting, sending out their most presentable 'moderate' representatives to get people curious enough to put that first foot in the door, establishing footholds on social media platforms. And if they can't get you all the way, they'll sure as shit settle for 'antifa/BLM are just as bad as the fascists'. They'll absolutely settle for people who aren't ready to start lynching giving up on 'the race thing' entirely. Those are people who'll look at a white supremacist politician and say 'well, his economic policies are so reasonable'.

So yes, this will absolutely be a problem that takes time to solve. But 'just do your best with your kids' is a model for being a few million Jews in a country of hundreds of millions of Christians. Which is fine for actual religions, less good for the analogous stand-ins.

<edit> Please note this is largely ignoring the moral questions, and strictly looking at strategy. There are non-strategic considerations that, for me at least, tilt the scale way towards a more active approach as well as the strategic layer.

<Jack> If you're trolling, you have to tell me<Dr. Slearch> no one tell him<blister> If you ask a cop what their favourite movie is they have to tell you, otherwise it's entrapment starring Catherine Zeta-Jones.

[13:56:12] <Pisa|Chatto> complete this sentence:[13:56:14] <Pisa|Chatto> Hakone is about the hot spring spirit Hakone who descended to a spa resort on Earth. Due to her long slumber however, she now looks like a little girl. High school boy Toya stumbles across her at a hot spring and ends up helping Hakone retrieving her[13:56:32] <Mazian> mix tapes?

(playing Dark Souls III with my wife watching, facing the dual Watchdog NPCs at the entrance to Farron's Keep)Lex: You're fighting them naked?Me: Yeah, their attacks are just too strong, so it's better to just strip and avoid them entirely. I had a problem like this once before.Lex: Are you doing this just to impress me?Me: Well... I mean, it's better to sink a hole-in-one with a witness.

(sadly paraphrased. Not only did I forget to stream it, but I only found out yesterday that my mic was turned off)

: Mention something from KPCC or Rachel Maddow: Go on about Homeworld for X posts

[discussion about white authors only referring to the race of characters if they're non-white]

<Jack> It is treating whiteness as "default" and other racial identities and groupings as being worthy of note for varying from the presumed default.<Doug> They say you should write what you know<KingRamz> People say this to me all the time but you know, there's only so many books you can write about masturbating in the corner<Monty> Tell that to Charles Bukowski.

<@Friday> Romo what are you doing for halloween<@Friday> are you dressing up as a cat<fbm> dressing as a different breed of dog<@Romosome> I do not know yet Friday<@Romosome> I should have a party<BrentDroid> Silversong wants me to go nekkid, I think I'm starting to rub off on her.<BrentDroid> I immediately regret using that turn off phrase.<BrentDroid> ...<BrentDroid> And that typo.<fbm> refuse to touch any part of that set of statements<BrentDroid> I'm going back to work now