Комментарий от vgGOD

Комментарий от xett

данный маунт выпал со второго раза! всем успехов!

Комментарий от rtyu

Выбил прямо сейчас с первого раза. Ваклейн-Азурегос.

Комментарий от Samuray08

выбил с 120 трая

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Комментарий от Tourlip

Horde version of http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43959. Drops in both heroic (25) and normal (10ppl) mode. Has room for 2 passengers, does not take fall damage at all. Does not carry vendors. Most of speed increasing effects do not affect mammoth.

Комментарий от Lucid

To summarize the information in a slightly more organized form, from Tourlip's previous comment and comments on the Alliance version of this mount :

This mount can drop from both 10 or 25 man Vault.

Added : This can drop from both Emalon and Archavon, and can drop from both in the same run.

This mount is a 2 passenger mount.

This mount does not have vendors.

You cannot eject passengers without desummoning.

The drop rate for this mount has been increased. (confirmed on 02/20/09)

It is very often ninja'ed by master looters.

Patch 3.1 eliminated 'vehicle mechanics' from player mounts and the following is no longer true, but kept here for posterity

This mount does not take falling damage. (will not need to be resummoned)

You can mount on some bugged mounts while riding (such as dk mount, blizzard bear)

Комментарий от Ex0dus

The best part of the mount is this:

It is very often ninja'ed by master looters.

Комментарий от Foca

never saw this one, where are the pics? :P

Комментарий от Caliman

This is the best ground mount in the whole game, I might be the only one on Greymane server to have this

Комментарий от Exacting

Shut up. Nobody cares.

Комментарий от gigantomachy

I recently got this mount as well. The first and only time I have seen it drop.

Some additional things to note:-The mount has an attack bar, and is treated like a pet. The damage done however is very small-The mount has its own health bar (like the motorcycle) with 8982 hp-Mounting just before a dual can cause the dual to bug out so that you can never die. I cannot confirm if this work in a bg.

Комментарий от jimwoods2k8

It's more than just a 3 person mount, i had my whole party on it last night when we were going to Gun'Drak, we were laughing because it was 2 people to a saddle, excluding my own

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Комментарий от Vraxend

Hey I seen it drop in 10 man today. I'll upload a screen shot of the loot when i have more time. It's an awesome mount. Sadly i did not win it. But it did not get ninja'd by ML since it was a guild run and we all rolled on it fairly.

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Комментарий от ProfesorChaos

this mount was ninja'd on "accident" from me today by a guildie. he opened a ticket about it and they said since it was linked to an achievement they couldnt xfer it. but i was wondering since its a mount does the achievement pop once u get it or once u learn it like other mounts. just trying to figure out if this guy is a liar or not. thanks for any info :D

Комментарий от TrooperXXX

Yeah, the ninjaing thing works allways, it just dropped on VoA25, and RL, Boned (atm Fury Warr) ninjaed it. Stormscale EU realm, this is just a warning

Комментарий от Ilikegold

It dropped today and i didn't get it :-( 25 people ftl

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Комментарий от Fritz363

I just won this from a 25 man a few minutes ago. So far its the first one i have ever seen drop. but i had to go thru an INTENNNSSE rolling battle before i got it. First i rolled a 99 and then another guy rolled 99 so we both had to reroll. He rolled first and rolled a 17 and i rolled and got 18 XD! I was so happy i almost wet myself :P

Just an added note. After fiddling around with it ive confirmed that it can receive speed buffs such as AotP and you do not receive fall damage... at all! i used to wonder why these kinds of mounts were so expensive to buy in gold but now i can see why XD

Комментарий от derazz

this is one of the three grand mammoths. it got 2 passenger spots and take no damage from falling.i got my mammoth 2h ago and this mount surely draws alot of attention!

(drop rate is 0.3% so big gratz to those who get it!)

Комментарий от Yennziuu

I dont get why Derazz and Fritz363 was rated down, grow up people.

Комментарий от saepaan

Doesn't work that way. Others that have you on the friends/ignore list and even in your guild will know your new name. The only viable alternative would be to transfer server.

Worth saying that I don't encourage ninjaing at all.

Комментарий от Desttiny

dropped tonight (Tuesday, March 24 @ 10:30 server time) in our 25-man Archavon raid. As tempting as it was, being the PUG raid leader, I reluctantly gave into the evil part of my brain that wants to do nice things for complete strangers and I opened it up for rolls. The ultra semi-rare mount ultimately went to Voltanis.

While we are outside the instance taking screenshots, I learned that the also dropped for a 10-man group that was in there at the same time. WTF?

I've run Archavon a combined 42 times on my two toons, never to see it drop. Then it drops for two separate groups? Simultaneously.

So this begs the question, did they buff the drop rate today or was this just an incredible coincidence?

Комментарий от Praiseworthy

there, i deleted the text in this comment, now we can all just ignore it, ok, the stupid story is gone, its not there anymore, so theres no need to bring it up anymore

Комментарий от Praiseworthy

i am deleting all the text in all of my comments on this page, that way we can just end it, the previous one has already been erased, same as the ones after this

Комментарий от codythemadman

I all so noticed in warsong gultch the guy riding it dident get dismounted when he went it flag room and stuff so if its a glitch or not its good for getting in there fast and ya when it droped the leader ninja looted =[

Комментарий от Olsain

This item where bugged when i tryed to give it away since i was ML, it said "player not found" to all i raid so if it does that to you, you might get judget as a ninja? :S cuz no 1 belive it

Комментарий от Cyatomorrow

43 tries at 4 tries a week (raid lockout) means 10months.

Considering WotlK came out in November, it's only been 5 months. Which means 43 tries is impossible.

Even assuming you did 10 and 25man, the odds all ten members got the mount are astronomically low.

By the way, in 43 tries, the odds of a mount having dropped is 35%, assuming a 1% droprate.

Комментарий от Mavebe

Praiseworthy, seriously, why do you even bother coming here telling such lies? Talking about the last thing you said. About your story, I lol'd 4 times about it, I mean, seriously, noone cares?

Even if they did, a guy who ninja'ed the Mammoth from a guild, wouldn't pay the guild to get reinvited, thats just pure bull@#$%, mark my words, next time you come here lying, I'll make sure YOU are the one losing your respect...

Wowhead have lost it's reability, whereever you look there is just people bragging "Omg , got it on my first run", "found it on AH for 3g, lucky me"

This site is for INFORMATION about additional things conserning World of Warcraft, you can go brag on your official world forum. :)

Комментарий от Malackite

Actually, changing his toons name wouldn't help much. Name change will be updated on friend/ignore lists. Off-topic, i know..

Комментарий от dankerb24

voa mount drop and headless horseman mount stacked

Комментарий от Snedge

On my 5th Run of VoA I got this drop, it was to my surprise that I outrolled everyone by a fair bit, rolling 99. Everyone claimed 'Hacks!' and what-not, nevertheless I won the mount.Also: Was particularlly happy the RL didn't ninja it :p

Комментарий от Presume

Just dropped for us in 10 man vault on the Kiljadean server... I won with a 96....

Комментарий от skullrock

I got it yesterday in voa 25 , won in a raid roll!. After people start to roll without reading the chat, and they said i was a noob becasue the raid leader gave it to me :P

Btw its a great mount! Very useful in pvp!And noone should worry when the others are angry , they are just greedy!

Комментарий от skullrock

I got it yesterday in voa 25 , won in a raid roll!. After people start to roll without reading the chat, and they said i was a noob becasue the raid leader gave it to me :P

Btw its a great mount! Very useful in pvp!And noone should worry when the others are angry , they are just greedy!

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Комментарий от Genemos

Uhm got somewhat lucky today, dc'd on the whole first boss fight, it was VoA 25 man, btw my first raid :Dwell anyway this drops, and the raidleader tells everyone to roll on it :OGuess who roll 100 and really doesn't deserve it?I do, and I feelt kinda bad about it but a roll is a roll and I won :D

Комментарий от Deathhoof

Oddly enough, you can still move around on it when the player is CCd. I was running around in Dustwallow when a 80 hunter hit me with a Wyvern Sting. I kept moving, even though my character was asleep from the debuff. Odd.

Комментарий от timj11dude

Ok, there is some quite interesting information allready posted about the mammoth on this page, but I got my hands on one of thes my self and would like to post additional information I have found, this information is in addition to that which Lucid has allready said:

The mount has it's own health at around 9k

The mount can be granted buffs from other players, such as stamina buff, Kings etc. But it is immpossible to buff your own mount unfortunatly.

It can also be buffed with levitate or path of frost in order to walk across water

Mounted players, if targeted and attacked can still become dazed and be dismounted, and have to exit combat in order to remount up onto the mammoth.

It is technically possible to dismount people onboard without desummoning, just by leaving the party or removing them from party if your leader

Running into an instance with someone mounted should normally bring them in with you. Also if your side step slowly to the entrance door, it is possible to push them inside without you. :-p

Sometimes, when running indoors with mount, to jump off a cliff and the mount will spawn at top of cliff and demount you there for being inside.

The is an odd bug sometimes for me when mounting that the mammoth turns to the side strangley.

It is possible to interact with certain objects in WoW but strangly I am unable to reach my own lightwell from the drivers seat.

The feast objects are interesting, as it possible to begin eating the food whilst mounted and continue to do so whilst running around.

As probably mentioned, dancing whilst on mount is unstoppable until you dismount. Also valid for passengers

It is fully possible to interact with the other mounted players, so you can inspect each other and trade.

The mount brings around some interesting PvP problems and/or exploits. Movement imparing effects and stuns of sort only have a movement affect on your mammoth. If say a mage casts either slow or sheep on the rider, you can still move the mammoth around to get away. However Stuns on the mammoth will impare your movement but you are still able to dismount and then fight.

UPDATES coming soon!

Комментарий от Fizzles

Alternatively, the people at Thottbot love to hear your amazing stories.

Комментарий от dontspitonme

won today-dontspitonme- burning legion with an 89 roll..after my roll the ML took like 30 seconds to give to me, i was worryed he would ninja :(

so far

.it does no longer count as a vehicle.CC affects such as polymorph will dismount you.now affect by crusader..ect..path of frost works with it.the mount can no longer be killed.no vendors.carrys 2 people.very low drop rate as i ran heroic and regular every week since i hit 80 2 days after christmas and this is the first 1 i saw dropped.THIS IS NINJA'D BY ML'S alot.the two party members do not need riding IE: i could have a level 1 ride on it.might not have vendors/ repair but its cheaper then the travler's (free)

good luck to those of you wanting to get this and gratz to those of you with it

Everyone in the raid suggested it to be raidrolled.Bláckángus simply took it for himself and logged off.

Pay attention to this, since it's very risky that the ML decides to steal this item if it drops. I suggestguildruns for VoA because of this mount.

Комментарий от Jazzycakes

His wow armory profile doesn't back him up with the achievement.

Altho he was correct when he said he didn't have artisan flying.

Комментарий от pherexian

I would like to point out, this is now considered a regular mount, that is it no longer has its own health and it now takes falling damage.

Комментарий от Mikocea

Note that two of these mounts can drop in the same instance now.

Lead and Master looted a VoA10 tonight. Both, Emalon and Archavon dropped the mount.

Guess you can imagine what raidchat looked like. =)

Комментарий от Mikocea

Note that two of these mounts can drop in the same instance now.

Lead and Master looted a VoA10 tonight. Both, Emalon and Archavon dropped the mount.

Guess you can imagine what raidchat looked like. =)

Комментарий от blankdud

Dropped today on Rexxar in 10 man VoA. It was a PuG with 3-4 guildies and it dropped. I was leader and actually won the roll with a 92. MoTD was dedicated to my luck. :3

Комментарий от Praiseworthy

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Комментарий от pluuf

I'm really sorry to put this to you, but nobody, NOBODY, cares.

Комментарий от Ryth

You should post that comment in your realm forums,and not in WoWhead...

Комментарий от WrathfulHealer

1) Praise, not only can we just tell that you're lying in your retraction of previous comments "a hacker did it" because it's obvious, but you also use the same exact typing format and writing style. Fail.

2) This dropped from Arch in 10man on Chromaggus last night... I rolled a 99. Seeing as how I have successfully completed H CoS about 30 times without getting the Drake, I was surprised at the luck on this roll - first and only time I've seen it drop, so far.

Комментарий от Praiseworthy

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Комментарий от Kuddlywuddly

On my server pugs are easily doing him, been doing him since he came out with my guild it's basically a retard check imo..

Комментарий от AJollyGnomey

I think it is funny how Praiseworthy always posts on the fancy mounts on Wowhead with all of these 'stories.' The Deadly Gladiator's Frostwyrm, la-dee-da he's everywhere.

'and if u bring it up again, it just shows how stupid and immature u really are' HA! Stupid and immature? Seriously? You sure are proving your point with your perfect grammar and wise sayings.

Plus, there are problems with your story. For one, the 43 times as previously stated. Two, 'i have never actually seen the mount drop from emalon though, and only seen it drop once overall' and 'erybody else that was in that group has the mount now, took like 43 tries to get all of us it, but we did it :)'. What's wrong with that? Hm, only seen it drop once but you helped everyone get the mount in 43 tries, which is impossible... interesting.

Комментарий от Graveworm

Yeahhhhhh just got this today. unf unf! I dare anyone to downrate this comment. It has very usefull informations!

Комментарий от Praiseworthy

there, i just deleted all of the text in all of the comments on this page by my profile, this way, we can drop the stupid subject and get back on the subject this page is supposed to be talking about

the grand black war mammoth

Комментарий от Praiseworthy

there, now that we are off the subject, i do ahve some very useful information for u guys

i was talking to some guildies about this, and they said the mount is no longer targetable by other players, not even in parties, but it is still a multi-passender mount that can carry 2 passengers

it is available to both alliance and horde

its does not carry vendors

it is obtainable from both archavon and emalon, and theres is actually a better chance of it dropping from emalon, and yes, it can drop from both in the same run, but is highly unlikely

it drops in both 25 man and 10 man, no difference in the drop rate between the two

this mount no longer takes falling damage since patch 3.1

this mount is very, very often stolen by master looters (this may sound a little stupid, but if ur pugging 10 or 25 man VoA, i would suggest not having a master looter, just all need on the mount if it drops, and pass on all the other loot and /roll for it after the mount is awarded to the winner, this way, there is no way it can be stolen by a ninja, cause this way, u all have an even chance, the mount must be rolled for by everybody and it cant just be looted like as if u were looted a ghoul in icecrown, it has to be a fair, there it no possible chance of it being ninja'd, but make sure u rolled and everybody else rolled before u did), but if ur doing this with guildies, or good friends, then it would prolly be ok to use a master looter, but like i said, pugging, u should NOT use a master looter

and one more thing, this is the ONLY PvP mount that can carry passengers, so if ur looking to get one like this, well, this is it

but the weird thing is, u dont even have to go to WG battles to get this or the regular black war mammoth, all u got to do to get the grand black war mammoth, is go through VoA, like a million times, lol

and to get the regular black war mammoth, u just got to do some heroics while ur faction owns WG, collect up to 300 stone keeper shards, and go buy it

i gave up on trying to get the grand black war mammoth, so i just got the regular black war mammoth, even though the regular black war mammoth does not carry passengers, it does the job, still a very nice mount, and it doesnt take that long to get if u actually go to WG and do the dailies (weeklies now =P)

thats all of the info i got for u guys, but if there is more, i will update as i find out

Комментарий от wasniahC

Not that i encourage it but it probably would work. Never looked in friends/ignore list and thought.. "Who the hell is that?"?

Комментарий от Rotny

LoL click Praiseworthy's name and it lists all 88 of his comments on varying subjects.Hilarious at how many have been deleted or purged.

Comments: 88 (-184)

Комментарий от Praiseworthy

u wanna know whats really hilarious Rotny, that u actually did that, heres what u need to get, a life, a job, and a girlfriend, ok, cause really, u sound like one of those nerds from school that everybody hates, and secretly talks trash about everybody else from a way that they cant hit u in the jaw

anyways, i do have some useful info on this mount

-it does carry 2 passengers

-the passengers must be in ur party

-it does not carry vendors

-the drop rate is actually a tiny bit better from emalon than archavon

-as far as i know, it does still take falling damage (correct me if i am wrong please)

-it is no longer targetable, but still is considered a vehicle since it carries passengers too

-it is often ninja'd by master looters, which is why u really shouldnt have a master looter, just roll on it like u would for a green drop in a 5 man instance, trust me, its a lot easier and safer, just pass on all the other gear

-0.5% to 0.7% drop rate

-has only been looted a total of 257 times as of Sunday, May 31st, 2009 at 12:27 pm

i have personally only seen this drop once, and it was in a 10 man VoA, dropped from archavon, guild run, and the guild leader won it, won by like 8 points, lol =)

more info will be added as i learn it

Комментарий от Praiseworthy

That seems like it would be a once in a life time thing, im sure, but one thing i gotta ask is, if raid chat was crazy, what the heck did trade chat look like? lol

ive only seen this drop once in a 10 man VoA off of archavon (before patch 3.0 came out)

i rolled an 87, and from the look of the rest of the rolls, i thought maybe i would win, but then i got beat by a 96

now u see, a lot of people would be mad if that happened to them, i wasnt really mad at all, i already had the regular black war mammoth anyways

i admit, it would have been nice to have a multi passenger mount to escort some people around on, but i was already saving up for the mechano hog anyways

ooh, and i do have some good info for u guys

-This drops from both Archavon and Emalon

-This drops in both heroic and normal modes

-It can drop from both Archavon and Emalon in the same run, but is highly unlikely, but yes, it can happen

-It can carry up to 2 passengers at the same time, but it does NOT carry vendors

-You must be in a raid group, be in possesion of Wintergrasp, and be level 80 to enter Vault of Archavon

-You can only do Vault of Archavon once every week, so i suggest u do Emalon first, because u dont wanna be saved to a group that couldnt down him, and not be able to attempt for another week

well, thats all the tips i have for u guys, more will be added as i obtain more information on this mount

Комментарий от Giez

Silly question really but I read that snares can be put on the mount such as slow so I was wondering if Sheep or Hex can be used on it. Reason I wonder is because I personally for giggles fight the Troll mounted raptors in Zul'drak because it's funny to sheep the raptor and watch the troll ride in a circle on the sheep. So basically can this mount be made a sheep and if so will the riders then be stuck riding the sheep?

Комментарий от Klentir

I just got this today! I was doing my usual VoA for the week with a 25 man PUG. After downing Emalon a few people left and we killed Arch with 21 people and this mount dropped.

I have been doing VoA every week since early December, and had never seen this mount drop before. I asked my guild and I was told it was less than a 1% drop rate from either boss in VoA. I quickly did the math and realized that the odds of me seeing this mount again were about 6 months.

I rolled but was only 5th highest, so I quickly yelled in raid that I'd buy it. When the winner asked for how much I was offering, I quickly blurted out the highest amount I was willing to pay - 4000g. He agreed and the loot master gave it to me! ^.^

Over half the raid whispered me and told me I was crazy, but I figure that 4% chance of getting something, and only having the chance of rolling on it once every 6 months, makes it worth 4k :)

Going for Mountain o' Mounts achievement, 72/100 so far :)

Комментарий от Atheddal

I ran both VoA's today and in 10 emalon dropped it, I was lagging badly. I managed to roll the highest out of anyone but i was ninjaed because someone decided to spam so much in raid that they won that the raid leader couldnt even see the rolls. The guy managed to get other people to even say they saw him roll higher than me. So I got booted out of my mount. The guy later transferred off and got a name change at the same time. I talked to a gm, he pretty much told me that unless I find the other guy that my mount is his. I have no way of getting it because we were using master looter not group loot. So now that I am out of my mount and don't have the shards to get it I can at least say it looks really nice and its the easiest 3 man mammoth to get.

Комментарий от Lennis

you CAN eject people from the mount :)Rightclick on the yellow dot and click eject

Комментарий от Banashne

Had one drop the other day. I don't see why ML would ninja these things. I was ML and just gave it to the highest roll, everyone wants it as bad you. So let other people get a chance to roll.

Комментарий от Mntoyster

I wonder why people ninja ANY item. I rolled a 96 on this last night in 10-man VoA (next highest roll was 76) and the RL/ML ninja'd it. His responce was "Oops.. sorry man, I'll send a ticket." I told him ok thanks, and took several screenshots so I would have all names, rolls, times, ect. As sson as the raid was over I sent a ticket as did 2 others from the raid on my behalf.

It's the next day and the ticket is still open. GREAT timing Blizzard.

Комментарий от Praiseworthy

its awesome that he sold it to u, but if i was asked that, i dont think i would have accepted that offer, a grand black war mammoth is like a one time chance to get, u can always make 4kg urself, no offense, but, that was a stupid decision on his part, but a very good investment on ur behalf, gratz for u, sucks for him =)

what im trying to say is, if this happens to u, take the mammoth = /

and btw, in response to Mntoyster's comment, he obviously didn't ticket it, he just wanted the mount, and screwed u over for it, my advice, ignore him, or report him, cause he basically just screwed u out of like one of the rarest ground mounts there is, and ur likely to maybe never see it drop again, so when somebody screws u over like that, it was just another common ninja, this time, just ninja'ing something u cant upgrade from

and to Mikocea, if raid chat looked crazy, i could only imagine what trade chat would look like if u told them that is XD

and i got an idea in case this ever gets ninja'ed from u, ive never done it, but i would love to see it actually happen

say it dropps off of one of the bosses, and somebody ninja's it, have a mage throw up a portal to dalaran, boot the ninja from the group, have 1 person aggro the other boss, everybody take the portal, and leave the ninja to die alone

he'll have a nice armor repair bill, maybe learn his lesson, and get about as ticked off as u were

plus, if u can down emalon with no problem, archavon will be awesome to use for this, since he's not as important as emalon, and u can always come back with a new person for archavon if u want to, hopefully he's still up for u to use him for the ninja kill

if it drops off of the 2nd boss u kill, then just get ticked off, and start /yelling at him i guess, not much u can do, but what i just said up there sounds like sweet, sweet revenge to me

Комментарий от Coandca

I was leading 10 VoA today and it dropped off Archavon. I rolled fairly, and rolled a 93. I gave it to myself as I was the highest roller and they called me a hacker for hacking my rolls. Lol..

Doesn't take any fall damageCarriest two passengersIs awesome :p

Комментарий от Butttttters

This is the Horde version of the mount :D

Комментарий от Dowsund

Unlike other multi-person mounts, only people in your party (as opposed to your entire raid group) can become passengers on this.

Edit: This has been fixed in 3.2.

Комментарий от Roxxar

Just dropped for me last night. It was my first time doing the heroic version, and it dropped off Emalon.

I won the roll with a 100. :D

Комментарий от easterhat

This dropped for me a few days ago but no achievement was granted. A GM ticket resulted in the following email:

"The information you supplied has been added to our own. We thank you for taking the time to report this matter, and we appreciate your dedication towards making the World of Warcraft the best possible game it can be."

Still no achievement...

Комментарий от Riddick342

It is very often ninja'ed by master looters.

I did one yesterday and i was the master looter and it dropped. I rolled a 96 and someone else rolled a 97. I had the heart to NOT ninja it.

Комментарий от Nejsemkunda

Well, i won it in 11.2.2009 in 10man.rolled 48as highest from 10 ppl as alt char./lol/ but can say this mount is really useless cuz you cant enter almost nothing on it. atleast as Tauren. Hes stucked in entrance to Dalaran Severs..stucked in Dalaran central place way to Violet Hold and stucked way to all zeppelin towers aswell. So this mount is really good only use for travel with 2 ppl afking way to Zul Gurub from Grom Gol or boosting friend way to some lowbies instance or whatewer like this. Yes is really better they move it onto Feats of strenght archievs cuz only patience and stranghtfull ppl can ride this crazy elephant more then once

Комментарий от Korbu

They recently up the drop rate of this? Ever since Patch 3.2, i've been seeing alot more of these. In the past 2 days, i've seen at least 7 people riding them on my server, and i'm on a low population server.

Комментарий от manbearpgg

can anyone confirm if this still gives a feat of strength for looting/using it? I got mine when it was a pvp achievement, before it got moved to the feat of strength but last night in vault 10, it dropped again and I won the roll, I passed it to a friend and he didn't get any achieve for it. He used it and was riding around on it, but still doesn't have a feat of strength for it.

Комментарий от Boznaz

I just got this mount in 10 man. and the intresting thing is that ML did not ninjalooted it ^^

Комментарий от gijsvandun

Does this mount no longer gives an achievement?I just got it from 10 men Voa, but didn't get the achievement when I added it to the collection.

Комментарий от LaurenzeTKD

I've seen this drop twice

I've seen this ninja'd twice

Комментарий от jerrymorrill653

Fortunately on my second 25 VOA (9/15/09) this mount dropped everyone in grp said watch it get ninja'd i personally did not care, but the loot master rolled 1-25 and got a 16 i was 16 in raid and recieved loot. I immediately recieved offers of 2-3k but was not interested needless to say i had 20+ grp members #$%^ed at me but personally i thought that was the fairest way i've seen a mount passed out.(mind you i have never grouped with the L/M nor know him in any way) but it is a baddass mount, i have heard of a mammoth being a siege vehicle please let me know if you know anything about this..FOR THE HORDE!

Комментарий от monopoman

I have seen it drop twice I have seen it ninja'd 0 times I rolled a 100 the second time it dropped and won.

I guess this heavily varies on your servers ratio of cutthroat loot #$%^&s to people that play fairly.

Комментарий от WhackCheese

I got this by accident. Some kid was the raid leader and didn't see the higher roller and gave it to me. The guy who should of had it wasn't mad and said I should keep it since he already won something. Yeah, I get lucky with rare mounts for some reason.

Комментарий от Kablacka

Did they remove the non-fall damage? i jumped off a building when i got the mount and i had half HP left.

Комментарий от LittleMikey

I won this, as raid leader. Now the trade channel on my server (Thaurissan) is full of spam accusing me of being a ninja because I used xloot to assign the loot to a random person. *sigh* life is unfair.

Комментарий от kimzky

Just looted this bad boy in our guilds weekly VoA 25-man run. Rolled a good 97, when I go to Dalaran with it I get alot of whispers. ;)

Definately something for the collection.

Комментарий от Pino

Patch notes 3.3

Grand Black War Mammoth now Allows two passengers to board that are in the same group as the driver.This makes it more epic

Комментарий от Dj12121

Oh my god I love this mount! Having just obtained it Yesterday I am still shaking from the fact that I won the roll with a 95 and was still 15 away from the second highest roll, and having just found out it takes fall damage makes me love it even more. Considering I was pugged for a 25 man VOA and decided to go and still win the roll makes me want to scream. Now all thats left to do is taxi some newbies and make some gold while I’m at it, and hopfully save up enough to score a sweet chopper!

Комментарий от sohvan

Advice for any master looters handling this item or anything similarly rare in a pug.

Letting everyone roll instead of raid rolling is a good way to make sure no one has any accusations of foul play. If you want to raid roll, it's a good idea to announce in raid chat in advance which number you are yourself. Otherwise if you do win the fair roll, people will accuse you of being a ninja even if you really did roll your own number.

Комментарий от laserlag

Snap. My first time ever doing VOA and it drops. I won it with a 78.

Комментарий от ra1d3n

Won this today in Archa10, /rnd roll, rolled 93, nobody said a thing.Well, they said gz. :)

Комментарий от Praiseworthy

What I really don't get is, why would you ninja this? There are other multi-passenger mammoths out there. If you ninja this, the people in the group are just going to tell everybody on the server, report you, and possibly force you to change servers and change your name. And even after you do that, the people on your new server might be able to put the pieces together, and figure out that they have never seen you before, and they probably would ask you how you got that if you've never won it on that server. So they could likely figure out that you ninjaed it, switched servers, and changed your name. So all in all, is it really worth ninjaing? No, not really.

Комментарий от Cedge

This just dropped off Emalon in my VoA 10 guild run. The moment I saw that it dropped, I offered 20,000g to the highest roller.She nearly didn't want to sell it, but she did, in the end!

Strangely though, there isn't any achievement for learning this mount.

And I'm now on 99/100 mounts, just one more to go :)

I'm sure most of the people who read this will think that 20,000g is an extravagant amount, and I agree, it is. I could have probably gotten away with offering 10,000g, but 20,000g was the first amount that came to mind, so I stuck with that, after offering it.Besides, putting it in perspective -Traveler's Tundra Mammoth costs 16,000g with faction discount, and Grand Ice Mammoth costs 8000g.A rare drop mount from an instance that no one will run (or be able to solo) at level 85 in Cataclysm, is worth 20,000g, which can be farmed up with time.

Комментарий от strandy76

I did that... guess what people said.

Since i'm so good at forseeing numbers, how come I haven't won the lottery....

Seems that as a RL these days if you announce the number youre using then you have some kind of roll-bot (if such a thing exists) and if u dont, you are a ninja anyway... *sigh* kids...

Комментарий от theBestInTheGame

That sounds like me. Weren't there 2 96 rolls and 1 97 roll? But if it were you. I am happy you didn't ninja it. But i am currently trying to get a pic up with it.

Комментарий от LoqueNahak

Sure but Tundra has vendors. Grand ice is useless, but indeed costs much less gold. To be honest I think 20K is way too much for what it offers, both in terms of utility and "coolness" (similar to other mammos walking around in Dalaran I mean).

If you spent 20K for this, how much would you spend for Ashes of Al'ar? I'd say at least 40K.

Комментарий от Oneesama

Hmm your prices are amazing... I guess I was hellishly lucky to take it for 500 gold lol.

Комментарий от Hidengokill

A few more days, hehe, and our questions about Reindeer Form and this mount will be answered.. A three person reindeer. Hehe.

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Комментарий от Huntard95

It dropped for me the other day in VoA 25, off Emalon.

Комментарий от Mufuti

Just dropped for me the second time on 3 toons.

I won with a 100 but it was given to another player by mistake (honest mistake there). Since I did not want to risk it being sort of a honest-mistake-ninja in the end yet, I agreed to let him keep the mount for 6k gold. Personally, to me it would not even be worth 1k considering the utility it brings. It does look cool ( it is a mammoth) but it dropped on one of my alts anyway and since it does not have vendors I really would only use it to occasionally ride friends around.

Value greatly diminished by the fact of me not being one of the cool kids afking on my mounts for effect either so.. yeah.

In the end all the discussion about the actual worth of the mount in gold - this solely depends on the worth it has in the eyes of the people participating in the raid with you. Since you cannot trade it with anyone else you should not expect someone offering 20k in your specific raid.

I was ok with getting 6k gold for it, considering I would never pay such high amounts of gold for any mount myself( except the Ashes of Al'ar when considering to quit WoW in the near future, of course ;-)

Would much rather have saved my 100 for a meaningful roll... but that is exactly my kind of luck.

Комментарий от Boltexx

This has dropped 2 times for me - Both times it dropped by Koralon. 1st time the Master Looter took it for him self! Hate Ninjas!

Комментарий от Brawler

I've heard about the mammoth drop in VoA, but I didn't think twice that I would win this loot. So I did my WG weekly and after that did voa10. Lukily was on Toravon (i think this is the new boss), and once the boss was down, the mammoth dropped XD. I rolled a 57, and I'm like great, i'm sure someone else will beat me but luckily no one in the raid rolled higher than me. So I won the loot.

This was before reading this comments, but I didn't know some ML would ninja this mount. Luckily, my ML did not ninja my loot. So I thank my ML for being a good sportmanship.

Комментарий от Coxy124

4 dropped in one day for me.... both off 2 off archavon 10+25 and 1 from emalon 25 and Toravon 10 we were like OMFG

Комментарий от deadlybeast

one dropped for me today off the ice boss. i figured its nothing more than a mount, and ill never need a 3 person one. i sold it to the first offer of 8k. (i was ML and won with an 88. no ninja accused thankfully)edit:25man

Комментарий от pewpewx

Just got this mount today, weeeee~~~~~when we're rolling the other hunter rolled 90, the others are like 50-70ish, and i was like "DAMN looks like its not gonna be mine~~" and then i rolled a 92......which rlly %^&*ed that hunter off....:P

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Комментарий от Helmox

Got this mount yesterday with a roll of 98. Dropped from Koralon. Had a honorable lootmaster, no Ninja on the Bloodhoof server. But did have a lot of offers to buy it! Once in a lifetime drop and it's all mine.

Helmo 80 DK

Комментарий от Veryrarebear

Just won this about 10 minutes ago in my VoA 25 on Kil'jaeden. Rolled a 97 and beat everyone in the raid. Kuddos to the guild <EndGame> who were the lootmasters for not being ninjas and being fair.

VRB

Комментарий от bfurret

A helpful note for those willing to sell this mount, to someone in the raid, should they win it-Do not right-click to put this into tradeI made that mistake today and lost out on 20k because instead of putting it in trade it learned it and Game Masters are unable to restore it due to it being linked to an achievement and being a spell. Hope this helps anyone in the future, if not feel free to purge me.

Fixing minor grammar and spelling mistakes.

Комментарий от Died

Yes you can, because there's the 2 hours of trading thing.

Комментарий от Sunfox

But you can only sell it to those in your raid who were also able to loot it. Thus, selling it on Trade chat, as I suspect the original poster was trying to do, is impossible.

Комментарий от Rinok

You can only trade it to people who were in your raid. Selling it on trade is impossible, unless the buyer was in the raid where it dropped.

Комментарий от Kabuto412

Just got this the other day, I was not the Loot master, although I would have understood and not really cared if he had ninja'd it. Yes it is nice to give lowbie guildies rides whenever needed, yes it looks cool and is rare. But all in all it's simply pixels, and even less useful then gear, it is purely for looks. Had a guy in trade $%^&* for like 20 minutes because I won the roll and he couldn't get over it, he didn't stop till about half the trolls just turned to him and yelled at him for being a girl and told him he should get some make-up if he wants to look pretty.

Комментарий от jamezdee

First time doing VOA10 on my pally, and this dropped. Didn't even have it on master looter (I was the group leader). I won it!

Комментарий от Gizeeh

it's kinda funny.. i was there in WOTLK in 25 man, then my gloves dropped, and then joined a group for 10 man, then i got the mount:D rolled 100 for both (gloves,mount)

Комментарий от zammy99

How do i get the Mammoth without taking any bosses? Can i buy it at the Auction House?

Комментарий от Cobblers

I was lucky to get this mount just two weeks before CATA was released.... needless to say I was extremely chuffed that it came to me.

The achievement for obtaining this mount is now a Feat of Strength - 20/11/2010 is what when I got mine! :)

Комментарий от Lulleh

Uhm. So, did they up the droprate on this one or what? I did Earth, Wind and Fire (25) today and we had three mounts to drop. Got one myself which awarded a FoS as well. (As a note, we did also kill the Ice boss in hopes of getting a fourth mount but he did not drop one so I assume we're just really lucky, or that they made the drop rate much higher.)

-Lulleh of Kazzak - EU

Комментарий от paladinnr1

Aah, this brings back memories.

I remember at lvl 80 i ran VoA10.Me and someone else rolled 96, we both rerolled and i won with a roll of 36 vs a roll of 7.

And now, earlier this day me and some friends decided to go VoA for this mount, and it drops and voila, i got it on my hunter aswell :D

Awesome mount, both practical and good looking.

Happy farming people :D

Комментарий от Thansons

I got this mount one day when we were killing the other bosses back in wrath for fun and free badges and my one buddy rolled a 98 and thought he has won it. Then I rolled a 100 and my guild leader masterlooted it to me. I was quite thrilled and enjoyed the bragging rights for awhile :D

Комментарий от Guy19

It's drops from more than one boss with a combined drop-rate of 5%, so you can expect to run this 20 times for 1 drop.

Комментарий от ahtah23

Was running VoA for fun and won this and some noob offered me 1k gold for it. I just laughed at him. Then he said that it was not a rare drop.

It's drops from more than one boss with a combined drop-rate of 5%, so you can expect to run this 20 times for 1 drop.

Then they offered me 3k and I used it.

Комментарий от Sophistique

Confirmed that this still drops from VoA 10 man & that you do still get the Feat of Strength as soon as you learn the mount. You don't get the FoS for having it in your bags.

Dropped today for my 3 man group on the first boss to the right, was a shock and a half as we had only *just* decided to group up and actually go weekly farming for this baby. But will be back to farm for my two friends as well. (Pally tank, Hunter & Disc Priest)

You can easily solo two of them - I did so on my DK out of bordem, the fire boss I couldn't do alone, nor the Ice boss with the dot that he applies to you.

Good luck to all the mount farmers!

Комментарий от Corq

It appears that this mount is faction specific. This means that you can only use the mount on the faction where you obtained it. A quick way to tell if the mount is faction specific, is to look at the items tooltip. It should say something like this "Races: Human, Dwarf, Night Elf, Gnome, Draenei, Worgen". If the items tooltip does not display eligible races, it is not faction specific (with the exception of a few), and will be accessible on all your toons. If you would like to use this mount on a character of the opposite faction, you must obtain it on that faction.

*****Also, please keep in mind that transferring your toons, as of patch 5.0, will not cause mounts to be converted into that of the opposite faction.****

*edit* you can open a ticket and request mounts you are missing when you transfer. They should restore them for you!

Комментарий от bullshizzblizz12

does this still drop?

Комментарий от Ashleyy

This dropped in patch 5.0.5 for me and I have a friend who recently got it as well in 5.1. With 4 bosses your chances of seeing this mount are tremendously higher than other rare mount because you get 4 shots on a single toon a week. it only took 1 week of farmin on a couple alts to get this mount. Good luck and enjoy your feat of strength for this mount. Oh this mount is also a taxi 3 seater as well which is cool way to avoid the 6k gold one from sons of hodir.

Комментарий от dstark9

I was farming the elders and had to get the area horde controlled. I decided since I was here, I would check out the bosses for fun. I went to the first boss on the right and got the mount. I haven't been in this place since Lich King. It was actually my 2nd feat of strength mount this week. Earlier in the week I got Ashes of Alar. Good week for me! garetjaxx area 52 horde side.

Комментарий от TheZoog

Every time I've done Earth Wind and Fire at least one mount has dropped. That's a 100% drop rate in 12 EWF's. Every time I've soloed = zilch, which is about what you expect from a 1% drop rate. Solo advice: for melee classes, solo it once to say you did. Then bring your ranged in to down Tor. Unless you are fine with 3/4 every week.Go ahead and try Toravon a few times you melee, but if you don't have some kind of angle to deal with the orbs, you'll be lucky to get him down to 50%. If you are soloing Emalon, kite him back back back down the hall towards Archies room, single-target nuking him as you go, because the elemental you are concerned about tends to spawn in his room, unlike Tor who summons the orbs right by him (or even behind you, if you are kiting him). And Tor btw is extemely fast so don't even think about turning your back to him to get some distance, he will always be faster than you. Em will always be slower. Archie is easy-peasy and Kor won't be too much of a challenge if you just keep moving out of his fire.

Oh, another word of advice. Don't fly into Wintergrasp unless you fly low. There is a bug since Cata where the battle either is constantly beginning over and over or the area-announcement says the battle is "in progress" even if it's over an hour away. What happens is you will be dismounted upon entering the zone and if you are flying too high, you'll plummet to your death, unless you gots a timely bubble.

Комментарий от sickbox

Here is a list of mount drops from Instances, Raids, and World Bosses to save some looking around.

Комментарий от Sistask

Today I was in Northrend and felt like doing VoA 10. I been wanting this mount since Wrath began and only seen it drop once (I was the loot master but lost the roll fair and square). I go in, kill the Storm boss. Crappy loot. I go kill the Stone boss, again with crappy loot. I was not sure if my rogue could beat the Ice boss since I was never able to solo it in the past. I go in, get killed while taking him down to maybe 0.1% health. I go back in and kill and the mount drops. I thought I was seeing things. So I get the acheve and on my way out, I figure if I can beat the Ice guy, I can kick the Fire boss too (never been able to kill him either). I kill him and another mount drops.

Now my luck is going to suck on everything else like the Noblegarden contest that is taking place at this time... Oh well, at least I got one more place off my list of places I have to go.

Edit: I wish these were not BoP. I would have liked to have given the second to a friend.

Комментарий от frankiecm

In our 5.3 and beyond world:

For people soloing this place in order to get the mount have in mind the following, each boss has a chance to drop the mount. This means that per character you have 4 chances a week to get the mount.

Комментарий от Dust

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Комментарий от Sardian

Ran VoA for the first time ever tonight on my lvl 90 rogue and this mount dropped off all 4 bosses. Makes me wish I brought friends. I didnt know the mount dropped from here but it's nice to know that it still does drop, so if anyone is still after it, keep at it.

Комментарий от JRxPHANTOM

WOW.. you guys are extremely lucky. I've been trying for this mount for months on normal 10man every week and haven't seen the mount drop yet.

Комментарий от mattematte94

Went in to Vault of Archavon today while bored as hell (first time in a few years).. only to find out that my mount-drop-luck, sort of, still exists. Got it twice in the same run. The sadest part is that I already had it, since 2009.0,8-0,9% drop rate. Really?I have been farming Fiery Warhorse for months with multiply characters. No sight of it. And it's supposed to have 0,8% drop rate too? come on!

Комментарий от Veneluure

For those who are curious about statistics, it dropped for me after 117 kills in VoA10 from Emalon the Storm Watcher.

Комментарий от Laran

One run - one drop. No need to go there again.

Комментарий от angelcide

Got it on my first try....So cause people get luck you dislike them?

Комментарий от Imperyus

Well.. Wowhead say 0,9% drop rate right? today for the first time i go in, kill koralon, got the mount, i was "Waoh", go to Emalon to just finish the run, got another one, i'm shocked xD25 Man istance anyway =)Here a screenshot as a prof, i did not post this to make rage people, just cuz is funny =/

Комментарий от brownpaw

Easy to solo on a 100 warlock, as well as a 92 mage (10 or 25 man).

So I thought that this three-person mount would be a cheap alternative (if you can get it to drop) to the Поводья тундрового мамонта для путешествующих, which costs over 10k gold, since they are both three person mammoth mounts then I figured that they would both have dismissible vendors. I didn't really notice that this one doesn't say anything about vendors in the tooltip.

So, just a fyi, if you're like me, take note... no vendors on this one, sadly. However, there is a Feat of Strength achievement attached, as well as the associated kill achievements for Vault of Archavon if you didn't get them when Wrath was current. Do note the Earth, Wind, and Fire achievements listed there which would require a little bit of kiting. Both 10man and 25man have approximately 1% reported chance of dropping the mount from each boss, so there's realistically no reason to have to burn through all the extra health on the bosses in the 25man besides to get those specific achievements.

When I went in today, cross-realm zones appears to have screwed up Wintergrasp... The map clearly said the other faction controlled it, but I could still fly right in to the instance without the castle even loading, and it let me in. Do note that within 15 minutes of a Wintergrasp battle, I believe you can no longer enter the instance (or the bosses become unattackable). Very little trash inside but there is some walking, so give yourself some time.

10man/25man raids also now share a lockout period as of Cataclysm, so no longer can you do the 10man, then switch over to the 25man and do it right after. As some other commenters have said, that gives you one try at the dungeon with each character per week, though each of the four bosses has a chance to drop it, making it technically four chances per character per week.

Комментарий от TruckerJim

Don't know if I'm incredibly lucky or if the drop rate recently changed, but this dropped the first time I killed Emalon the Storm Watcher.

Комментарий от mzBKworm

This dropped on my 6th boss kill. Apparently I did this during Cata with my old guild once. Dropped off the 2nd boss on my 2nd run. No complaints here

Комментарий от Jaxigar

Had this drop for me on the first boss, it was my third run in there.. Ayyye..

Комментарий от Chyuboo

This mount can only be obtained from the Vault of Archavon raid within Wintergrasp Fortress. Now in WoD, you can take advantage of the Group Finder tool to hop over to a realm in which your faction has control of the Wintergrasp Fortress (and thus VoA).

However, if you want to realm hop, please apply to groups with titles like "Open Garrison" or "Realm Hop". There is nothing more annoying than happily accepting someone to a group only to find out that he/she was only taking advantage of your group/realm and didn't want to help you whatsoever

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Комментарий от Gadrail

Just dropped for me the second time i ever do Vault :D!i aggroed all bosses and then aoed them down dunno if this matters anyhow :D

Комментарий от Spesh1

Just got this on my first run, on the first boss and nothing ever drops for me. I might play the lottery today haha! Good luck guys.

Комментарий от krzmal

HiDropped for me yesterday from 1st boss on the left.Did 18 runs on 25 man.

Комментарий от Iatrixian

Just dropped for me on 25 Heroic this morning, very first boss. Wasn't expecting this, ever. I think I've run it maybe 10 times, didn't keep track because I keep forgetting the instance is even there. Whenever I'm in Northrend Dal, I never think to check which faction is in control.

(heck, I didn't even *know* about it till last year, that's how casual I am).

Now I have a mild hope for that drop off Elegon someday.

Комментарий от Yukfu

Just in case you didn't know (like myself), even though there are two items listed for each faction , either faction mount drop will work for both factions once learned. That means if you don't have to loot it twice for both factions.