Well I took my dump truck with a 8v-92 to the DD garage, needs a rebuild. I only put around 4 to 5 thousand miles on this truck a year. Then main reason for the concern is that if you leave it idle for a couple of minutes it will really smoke till you get it hot and run for a while then it seam to clear up. I was hoping that it only needed blower seals, but the shop says it is more then that, This is not a new truck but is in very good shape and would cost a lot to replace, but I'm not a spring chicken and probably will only need this truck a couple of year at the most. I use it to move my equipment and haul a little stone and shale. the main trucking I hire done, cheaper. The way I look at it these are my options, Do nothing and run it, bad for the air. Do a in frame cost around 7500.00 try to find a good take out eng. Or hear is the biggie, I have a new 8v-92 in the bus, I have had the bus for sale for over two year and asking less the half what I have in it and have asked for offers. so far no serious takers. I could take out the 92 and part the bus out and recoup a fraction of the cost, I have no plans of using it and it is in my garage and I could use the space. With that being said, It would be a lot of work but there is a lot of parts new and good used to sell if I should take this rout, What would you do, I guess I'm undecided and need a shove one way or the other.

Where are you advertising your bus?Just curious.I have an 8v92 out of a dumptruck that is going to need a lot of retrofitting (yours would too probably) I would be interested in seeing what youre selling.Rick

Another thought... Gumpy and I went and looked at an 8V92 Diesel Service reman in a farm implement ( A terra gator) in a town called Wilmar Minnesota.

I didn't buy it for a number of reasons the #1 reason is they have used 15/40 synthetic in it . It had more hours than they said (probably somewhere around 3000hrs/150k miles although if you ask them it only has 13k miles on it but Craig and I realized that's because they were only going 3-5 mph 98% of the time). It's on craigslist if you do the google craigslist.org trick it will let you search the entire database just put in 8v92 and it will come up. They are asking 5k but if you're not in a hurry maybe this guy will realize that he's asking 5k for a motor that cost 10k new and has used over half of it's useful life and what some consider to be the wrong oil. If you could get it for 3500 to 4k it may be a good deal and considering how many miles you use your dumptruck a year it could outlast the chassis. So, if you like many others here don't mind the synthetic oil maybe this would be a good motor for your dumptruck. A couple real positives were it's incredibly clean, they'll let you pull it in their shop and they have loading equipment and it has a couple really good accessories, a good 12 volt alternator and a hydraulic rig that Gumpy thought we could use to level my bus.

The biggest reason I almost bought it is I like the reman is they redo "everything" fuel pump, water pump, governor, blower, turbo... everything. Same motor in the box today is $12500.

The things you would have to switch from motor to motor to put your bus motor in your dumptruck are probably quite numerous. Chances are you would have to change bellhousings (if you have an MCI for sure), oil cooler (maybe), oil pan and pickup, (maybe), water pump, starter, it would be a good weekend worth of work just to switch them if you work carefully. I'm sure for guys who have done the switchover it would be quicker but I bet it will take me days just to find the parts I need to switch mine over.

Good luck on this and keep us informed. I am always surprised by the stories of the difference between when a local trucker/hauler would change out a motor compared to busnuts who travel long distances with their family. They might say you have another 100k in that motor of yours!!

You know the engine in your dump truck. As long as it hasn't been over heated, you could get by with a simple piston ring replacement and bearings. That would probably get down towards $5,000. Good Luck, TomC

They had oil sample analysis for up to 06 but the ones for the last couple years were "missing". Gumpy and i didn't like that much. I did take an oil sample if you'd like me to send it in for you I will. It's prepaid by the owner.

Let me know,Busnout 104 I agree with Tom C if you could just do kits and the blower you may spend alot less. If you pull and clean the blower, heads and intake/turbo you could save yourself alot of money as well.Good luckRick

I guess I am not as environmentally concerned as the other posters, but from what you said, you have a problem if you leave the truck idling. It then smokes until it gets a bit of a workout. Is it still doing its job other than that? I would lean toward using it for a while and not letting it idle much. In the meantime, keeping an eye out for a good, used swap engine. Whatever the engine swap ends of costing will increase the value of the truck and should mostly come back to you when you sell it.

It's a heckuva lot colder than that !!! They have a nice, big, well equipped heated shop. Was the owner nice to you? His demeanor was, shall we say, questionable. He looked like he was swatting a fly that was pestering him, when we were talking, and then I realized I was the fly!!!

He wasn't at first Rick but after we talked he got nicer he did a little huffy about the offer till I explained it was a 1770 mile trip to buy a engine sight unseen just from his say so. FWIW I ask what oil has been used in the engine and he said he would get back to me on that

Just use it as is. My mechanic tells all kinds of stories about how you can run the DD worn out for forever. He even had a truck that he ran all over the country for a year with a bad cylinder. He convinced me that I wouldn't have a problem taking my wheezer bus, that requires ether to start even in 90 degree weather, on a 8k mile trip through the Rockies. He was right, no problems, and I wouldn't hesitate to go again many times over. I used a gallon of oil every thousand miles and I believe half of that is lost to leaks. Save your money and time for more important things.

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Just use it as is. My mechanic tells all kinds of stories about how you can run the DD worn out for forever.

Amen, Barn Owl -

I don't know squat about the finer points of engines and such, but coming from Quebec, I know lots of guys that run these things... right into the ground, some would say. This one guy - he runs raw logs 'up' - and finished timber 'down' (go figure?). Anyway, 250,000 miles after being told he needs a re-build, he's still going strong.

Smoke? Yup... until she heats up. Hard to start? Yup... but a squirt of ether cures that. Does it run? Like a whowlin' banshee. I know... I made a flip with him, from Quebec to Florida and back. Two stops each way (required, I guess?) and round trip in under 5 days.

Use some oil? Yup... two gallons down, two gallons up. But like my bud, says, "Plus cheap qu'un autre moteur. Yeah, we use some 'Englishisms' - cheap is still cheap in any language.

BTW, his rig is a '98 with over 2 million miles (same engine).

Nellie Wilson

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B Belter, could you post some pictures of your rig. That is a very nice Eagle and i love that look. I remember it from 05 BCM maybe? Anyway its sharp. If you have already posted what page pics? Thanks dave

Just saw those photos and... wow! What a gorgeous machine! It's like Busnut104 crawled into my head and snapped photos of my dreams. That bus is what I fantasize mine someday(?) becoming. I cannot imagine why somebody hasn't snapped it up.

Busnut 104, if you're out there, don't you dare tear that bus apart (picture Nellie shaking her finger at you) . But, seriously, please don't... not just to repower a damn old dump truck you hardly use anyway (from the sound of it).

From a logical standpoint, any decent bus has (all things being equal) the same salvage value. I'm talking factory components - drivetrain, body panels, etc. Sure, the value of add-ons varies from bus to bus but - bottom line - it's nickels on dollars. Even brand-spanking-new 'stuff' is used stuff once it's torn out. Not to mention the hassle of ads, and the BS that goes with selling it piecemeal.

From a purely emotional standpoint: Don't give me (even more) sleepless nights! I can't bear the thought of your beautiful bus being sent to the scrapper! if I had it, I'd give you the $$ right now - if only to save that bus. Promise you'll do nothing along those lines, at least without talking?

Send me a PM?. Maybe we can come up with some ideas?

Nellie

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Well the bus is safe for now, I talked to the shop where my truck is and we are going to take Tom C suggestion and tear her down and see if we think a ring job, and resealing the liners will do the trick, If it does and I should know is a couple of weeks, I'm going to get serious and advertise the bus like some of the suggestions on this post and one of the new post where to sell a bus. So keep your eyes open and if any one knows some one who want a completely rebuilt bus give me a call. Contact information is on sellabus add or I should be able to be contacted on this board, I visit it a couple times a day, and I probably still will even after I sell the bus, I still love these big machines. Thanks for all of your input.