Bah77 wrote:Okay you want to walk on the cycle path, great, oh you also want to walk directly in the center?

LOL! see this all the time normally with the head phones on also and they crap themselves when you fly pass and your shadow hits them. I've felt like giving them a quick flick on the backside with my foot but with the laws these days bad idea.

I'm ready...

...whatever the road rules, self-preservation is the absolute priority for a cyclist when mixing it with motorised traffic.London Boy 29/12/2011

Bah77 wrote:Okay you want to walk on the cycle path, great, oh you also want to walk directly in the center?

LOL! see this all the time normally with the head phones on also and they crap themselves when you fly pass and your shadow hits them. I've felt like giving them a quick flick on the backside with my foot but with the laws these days bad idea.

CXCommuter wrote:Dibs to the guy along West Coast Highway PSP on his Tribars watching a video on his Dumbphone/tablet whilst cruising at 30km/h.

Sounds like a complete D***head to me.

This is not a PSP (Principal Shared Path) but a lower speed recreational Shared Path. OK alongside West Coast Highway there are places with very few pedestrians but further north, alongside West Coast Drive, then this is too fast, too stupid and just plain reckless.

Shared Paths are for slower cycling, max 20kph, and ready to give way/stop at any time. Tribars or any distractions are not in order. This guy should be on moron motorists as an honorary member as he seems to be as well qualified.

CXCommuter wrote:Dibs to the guy along West Coast Highway PSP on his Tribars watching a video on his Dumbphone/tablet whilst cruising at 30km/h.

Sounds like a complete D***head to me.

This is not a PSP (Principal Shared Path) but a lower speed recreational Shared Path. OK alongside West Coast Highway there are places with very few pedestrians but further north, alongside West Coast Drive, then this is too fast, too stupid and just plain reckless.

Shared Paths are for slower cycling, max 20kph, and ready to give way/stop at any time. Tribars or any distractions are not in order. This guy should be on moron motorists as an honorary member as he seems to be as well qualified.

Just curious - what is the problem with tri-bars (which I used to use when I was still riding).

Actually tri-bars seem to me to be a bit less common than they used to be.

Very unpleasant woman and hubby... both apparently 65 on the Centennial trail today. I passed them going the other way at marginally over jogging pace... (I could tell cos the joggers I had passed back before burke rd were still in sight behind) on my side.. and completely on my side and a foot or so clear. I passed.. they yelled abuse. I returned to enquire.

It appears I should have completely left the path to allow those people to use it in its entirety as "bicycles must give way to pedestrians' and they were walking alongside each other over the middle of the path and that was their utter right.

Self entitled plonkers.

I suggested to the male that if he was so keen on a fight I was fine with it and the woman suggested I was picking on an old man. Pah.. bigger age difference between my brother and me.

Seriously... its a long while since I have met bigger wastes of oxygen. I,m going to start jogging that bit of path and I wont be moving over an inch for anyone going the other way.

Think I met them in Sunbury a few weeks back Perc. Slow to walking pace to pass and get the "Its a footpath, Pal".Told him if he wanted to hang around for 20 odd minutes I'd be back with a print of the appropriate state and local laws stating the blindingly obvious, ill mannered dill just turned his back...

Shaun

...whatever the road rules, self-preservation is the absolute priority for a cyclist when mixing it with motorised traffic.London Boy 29/12/2011

Seriously meeting absolute wastes of space like that just sours your day. Last one was some ar$e who had a go at me for saying 'passing' instead of ringing a bell. And they are the sods who will run you down because you ride two abreast. Much of the misery on the planet and the majority of stupid lawsuits are from these sort of people

Legally they're right. And still plonkers. Probably just as self-entitled and incapable of courtesy when behind the wheel of a car. Scary thought.

But if you get off your bike and start walking and hold your line, you turn the tables on them.

I,ll do exactly that. Running while pushing the bike. Anytime I see em. Cyclecross practice. And I,ll be using all my side of the path thank you. And I should imagine they are as self entitled and incapable of courtesy in every single thing they do.

Percrime wrote:It appears I should have completely left the path to allow those people to use it in its entirety as "bicycles must give way to pedestrians' and they were walking alongside each other over the middle of the path and that was their utter right.

dismount and wait with your bike next to you for them to pass, taking up the whole path

i have very few issues with pedestrians on shared paths (dog walkers aside, who are often terrible), but every now and then you'll find someone..

Percrime wrote:Very unpleasant woman and hubby... both apparently 65 on the Centennial trail today. I passed them going the other way at marginally over jogging pace... (I could tell cos the joggers I had passed back before burke rd were still in sight behind) on my side.. and completely on my side and a foot or so clear. I passed.. they yelled abuse. I returned to enquire.

It appears I should have completely left the path to allow those people to use it in its entirety as "bicycles must give way to pedestrians' and they were walking alongside each other over the middle of the path and that was their utter right.

Self entitled plonkers.

I suggested to the male that if he was so keen on a fight I was fine with it and the woman suggested I was picking on an old man. Pah.. bigger age difference between my brother and me.

Seriously... its a long while since I have met bigger wastes of oxygen. I,m going to start jogging that bit of path and I wont be moving over an inch for anyone going the other way.

They are right - you have to give way to them as they are vulnerable users of the path.

You should even dismount and walk past them.

Haven't you learned anything from the numerous lectures on BNA with the pedestrians in disguise on here saying all the above?

When I come up against those people I go very slowly past them at no more than their speed and wait until they move to give me enough room.

I don't. I slow down to a reasonable speed (which may still be faster than walking speed), use my bell if necessary (when I'm at least 10 seconds away), and if they move aside for me, I thank them. On the other hand, if they still deliberately obstruct me, then I remind them it's a shared path. If that offends them, so be it.

ColinOldnCranky wrote:Just curious - what is the problem with tri-bars (which I used to use when I was still riding).

Actually tri-bars seem to me to be a bit less common than they used to be.

Brakes. Try getting to them in an emergency when you're on the tri-bars, and see what happens.

It's not unlike like driving a car with brake pedal in the passenger side footwell.

Exactly, excellent for long flat sections of road with no one around, on a Shared path they are dangerous but the biggest concern in this case was using them as a resting pad for his arms holding a mobile entertainment device.

g-boaf wrote:Haven't you learned anything from the numerous lectures on BNA with the pedestrians in disguise on here saying all the above?

We've never said that. In the case of people who won't share part of the path at all (which is a far less frequently observable event than poor driving imo), I just stop and make them go round, which forces them to make the space anyway.

If you must say anything to them, tell them its a very bad idea to try make a kid cyclist leave and reenter a path at a shallow angle.

Hah, shared paths, I had a fair few pedestrians to deal with on the bike path tonight. I just don't understand why they want to use a path at the same time as bikes doing around 30KMh when it is a bike path and the pedestrian path is a few metres away.