California would call it a pistol manufactured after 1898, and says it has to go through DROS.

G-Man WC

07-23-2009, 6:53 PM

wow, nice! -g

AJAX22

07-23-2009, 6:57 PM

Not a bad price!

I love those little guns....

norcal77

07-23-2009, 9:03 PM

Wish you were closer...

locktime

07-24-2009, 8:28 AM

I'll be driving up the I-5 through Sacramento on Sunday Aug. 2

locktime

07-25-2009, 5:45 AM

bump for the morning crew

Bingo

07-25-2009, 8:13 AM

The Feds would call it C & R.

California would call it a pistol manufactured after 1898, and says it has to go through DROS.

B. "CURIO OR RELIC"

Under federal law, "curios or relics" are defined as any firearms that:

are of special interest to collectors by reason of some quality other than is associated with firearms intended for sporting use or as offensive or defensive weapons. To be recognized as "curios or relics," firearms must fall within one of the following categories:

(a) Firearms which were manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas thereof;

This last line says it all, This can be sold PTP as C&R. No DROS needed

(b) Firearms which are certified by the curator of a municipal, State, or Federal museum which exhibits firearms to be "curios or relics" of museum interest; and

(c) Any other firearms which derive a substantial part of their monetary value from the fact that they are novel, rare, bizarre, or because of their association with some historical figure, period, or event. Proof of qualification of a particular firearm under this category may be established by evidence of present value and evidence that like firearms are not available except as collector's items, or that the value of like firearms available in ordinary commercial channels is substantially less."2

Thus, "curios or relics" need not be more than 50 years old if they are "certified curios or relics" or if the firearm is so "novel, rare, bizarre," so as to be rare or substantially more expensive than like firearms.

California law regulates transfers of "curio or relic"("C&R") firearms, but it does not define the term. Instead, California law adopts the federal definition of "curios or relics."

locktime

07-25-2009, 8:52 AM

Bingo, I truly wish you were correct.

However, here's what I understand California law to be:

I want to sell a gun to another person, i.e., a private party transfer. Am I required to conduct the transaction through a licensed California firearms dealer?

Yes. Firearm sales must be conducted through a fully licensed California firearms dealer. Failure to do so is a violation of California law. The buyer (and seller, in the event that the; buyer is denied), must meet the normal firearm purchase and delivery requirements. "Antique firearms," as defined in Section 921(a)(16) of Title 18 of the United States Code, and curio or relic rifles/shotguns, defined in Section 178.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations that are over 50 years old, are exempt from this requirement.

locktime

07-27-2009, 3:19 PM

For Sale - Los Angeles Area - South Bay

Ruger GP100 - Stainless - 6" barrel

.357 Magnum

excellent condition - very accurate

$460 SOLD

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locktime

07-28-2009, 3:27 PM

I think I need a gimmick.

gozuki

07-28-2009, 3:32 PM

Bingo, I truly wish you were correct.

However, here's what I understand California law to be:

I want to sell a gun to another person, i.e., a private party transfer. Am I required to conduct the transaction through a licensed California firearms dealer?

Yes. Firearm sales must be conducted through a fully licensed California firearms dealer. Failure to do so is a violation of California law. The buyer (and seller, in the event that the; buyer is denied), must meet the normal firearm purchase and delivery requirements. "Antique firearms," as defined in Section 921(a)(16) of Title 18 of the United States Code, and curio or relic rifles/shotguns, defined in Section 178.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations that are over 50 years old, are exempt from this requirement.