Perhaps that was because the [poster was ignorant of what they were talking about.

Let me make it bonehead simple.

The left end of the political spectrum believes in more government control.

The right end believes in less government control.

Now ... from that the left, in total insanity, sees the maximum levels of state control that exist in regimes such as Hitler' Mussolini's, Mao's, Fidel's, Lenin's, Stalin's, Pot's, Ceaucescu's and want to dumpt the failure of far left politics off on them being right wingers.

That is, at best, prima facie evidence of total historical and political ignorance. At worst it is evidence of total treachery and deceit.

Now ... if either of you dispute that Mussolini and Hitler were leftists then make your case of how they reduced the footprint of the state and brought increased liberty to the people.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The left end of the political spectrum believes in more government control.

The right end believes in less government control.

Now ... from that the left, in total insanity, sees the maximum levels of state control that exist in regimes such as Hitler' Mussolini's, Mao's, Fidel's, Lenin's, Stalin's, Pot's, Ceaucescu's and want to dumpt the failure of far left politics off on them being right wingers.

That is, at best, prima facie evidence of total historical and political ignorance. At worst it is evidence of total treachery and deceit. </div></div>

...nobody sane does.

Q

LWW

12-17-2010, 06:15 AM

Really?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Leftist economic beliefs range from Keynesian economics and the welfare state through industrial democracy and the social market to nationalization of the economy and central planning.[19] During the industrial revolution, left-wingers supported trade unions. In the early twentieth century, the Left were associated with policies advocating extensive government intervention in the economy.[20] Leftists continue to criticize what they perceive as the exploitative nature of globalization, such as sweatshops, the race to the bottom and unjust lay-offs. In the last quarter of the Twentieth Century the belief that government (ruling in accordance with the interests of the people) ought to directly involve itself in the day to day workings of an economy declined in popularity amongst the center left, especially social-democrats who became influenced by 'third way' ideology.
Other leftists believe in Marxian economics, which are based on the economic theories of Karl Marx. Some distinguish Marx's economic theories from his political philosophy, arguing that Marx's approach to understanding the economy is independent of his advocacy of revolutionary socialism or his belief in the inevitability of proletarian revolution.[21][22] Marxian economics does not exclusively rely upon Marx, it draws from a range of Marxist and non-Marxist sources. The dictatorship of the proletariat or workers' state are terms used by Marxists to describe what they see as a temporary state between the capitalist and communist society.</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In modern times, most right-wing ideologies and movements support capitalism. In Europe, capitalists formed alliances with the Right during their conflict with workers after 1848. In France, the right's support of capitialism can be traced to the late 19th century.[11] Right-wing libertarianism (sometimes known as libertarian conservatism or conservative libertarianism) supports a decentralized economy based on economic freedom, and advocates policies such as property rights, free markets and free trade. Russell Kirk believed that freedom and property rights were interlinked.[44] Anthony Gregory has written that right-wing, or conservative libertarianism, "can refer to any number of varying and at times mutually exclusive political orientations." He listed some as: being "interested mainly in 'economic freedoms'"; following the "conservative lifestyle of right-libertarians"; seeking "others to embrace their own conservative lifestyle"; considering big business "as a great victim of the state"; favoring a "strong national defense"; having "an Old Right opposition to empire." </div></div>