Last week Mark Shuttleworth shared that Ubuntu will begin shipping the Wayland Display Server with their Unity desktop in a future release (likely around Ubuntu 11.10 it will become an experimental part of their desktop stack, but a PPA repository of Wayland for Ubuntu is already being worked on now). While being a supporter of Wayland and the first to cover this display server project two years ago when it was just in its infancy, this even caught me by surprise and a bit of a shock that Ubuntu, the leading desktop Linux distribution, planned to begin shipping support for it so soon...

after that point is cleared now, could we get back to real buisness and work for the next X.org/Xserver release? tnx.

11-08-2010, 01:17 PM

NomadDemon

we have no plans to buy nvidia or other GPU

stupid bussines stuff.. for taking money they are first, for making a new features.. not...

if you will call wayland a DX12... they will be racing to implement...

11-08-2010, 01:19 PM

MaestroMaus

Lol, this is such non-news. If Wayland will ever become what X is now Wayland will be supported by NVIDIA. Right now Wayland isn't even being used. Easy enough to tell your not going to support it now.

In other words: Nothing to see here, move along.

11-08-2010, 01:45 PM

NomadDemon

same dx 11, move along

11-08-2010, 02:05 PM

Pfanne

the migration to wayland will take years, so i dont really see the problem for people with intel/ati graphics solutions.
by then the gallium/ati driver will kick ass and be a good alternative to fglrx even performance wise.
funny how nvidia will probably go from the linuxusers favorite gpu manufacturer to place 3 ;)

11-08-2010, 02:15 PM

JeanPaul145

Even if Wayland becomes sort of a defacto standard on Linux desktops and nVidia *still* decides not to support it, I don't really see the problem: nvidia blob users will keep on using X.org and nouveau users will use Wayland (or X.org). So everyone would still have a choice in what kind of driver and display server to use (except of course the newest-gen gfx card users, for obvious reasons).

For that matter, I don't get all those people whining about Canonical planning to implement Wayland: They can run an xserver on wayland if they need the features, and if that for some reason doesn't meet their needs X.org will still be in the repo's, so anyone can simply swap out Wayland for X.org. Linux in general is about choice and fortunately Canonical is not about to take that away from Ubuntu's users.
For anyone who doesn't need features like X-forwarding (which will be most Ubuntu users I'm guessing), implementing Wayland will be a huge win both in display quality and performance.

11-08-2010, 02:17 PM

drag

Quote:

Lol, this is such non-news. If Wayland will ever become what X is now Wayland will be supported by NVIDIA. Right now Wayland isn't even being used. Easy enough to tell your not going to support it now.

In other words: Nothing to see here, move along.

Whatever. This is just another example of Nvidia and people's dependence on their proprietary driver holding back advancements. Every time somebody tries to do something to improve X then it breaks the nvidia driver and then you have a vocal minority of users blowing up all over the place.

The one thing that you have to understand about Nvidia is that they don't give a flying shit about you. There is only one group of people they care about that use Linux and that is in high-end 3D applications, movie studios, and scientific visualizations. The reason Nvidia cares is because these people spend a shitload of money on hardware and utterly refuse to use Windows.

If it was not for that Nvidia wouldn't give Linux a crap and this expresses itself in their refusal to work with everybody else to improve the quality and usability of desktop Linux.

11-08-2010, 02:27 PM

md1032

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Originally Posted by drag

The one thing that you have to understand about Nvidia is that they don't give a flying shit about you. There is only one group of people they care about that use Linux and that is in high-end 3D applications, movie studios, and scientific visualizations