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I disagree. In Taiwan, access to resources that are not readily available to all is good guanxi. Having good guanxi does not make you a member of the upper class - it just means that you know a lot of people, or if not a lot, a few of the right ones.

ScottSommers wrote:This is no doubt true. Every life is an individual life based on individual choices. However, I analyzed statistics provided by the ROC Ministry of Interior to reach this conclusion. Once again, I suggest that you have a look at the original link for more details.

Scott, you and I and everyone who has ever read an academic journal knows (or should know) that it is not the numbers, but what the numbers MEAN, that counts. No one doubts the original numbers -- what we disagree with is your interpretation of the numbers, for such it is. Some conclusions can be drawn from certain data, and other conclusions cannot be validly drawn.

To say there are significant differences between groups in the first place requires certain statistical operations based on sample size and the number of people in each group. And if the differences between groups do reach a reasonable threshold for statistical significance, you then have to try to explain why. In your "experiment" or analysis of the numbers, there is no control for other factors, and you cannot simply wave them off as inconvenient so as to stick to your hypothesis.

The basic definition of social class is, of course, another huge potential pitfall in the analysis. But that is another question. And I certainly don't want to subject you to monotony by reiterating anything.

Receiving welfare is not tantamount to being in a certain social class. And anyway, since until recently I (supposedly more or less middle class) did not have health insurance, I routinely saw welfare recipients in my primary caregiver's office, as I had to go to the emergency room for treatment when things got that serious. Class does not guarantee access to resources. It may predict it, but it does not guarantee it. I may have been of a higher social class than those in the waiting room with me, but we were both accessing the same reosurces - the only ones available to us.

I'll give you another example. I recently did an interpreting job here in the States for a man in his late 40s who was marrying a Chinese woman. In the course of this pre-nup, I saw his financial statements. He has what is considered to be a blue-collar job -- i.e., lower middle class, most likely, if you look only at the employment. His net worth, though, is about five times what mine is (and I save like a fiend ). He has access to far more resources than I do, but I would likely be perceived as higher in social class (hierarchy/status) because of my profession and my educational attainment (he has a high school diploma, I have several graduate degrees).

No wonder sociologists are unemployable. There are only two classes the super rich and the aspirationals. Ask the super rich and they'll tell you the same. Ask the aspirationals and they'll tell you they're middle class.

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I haven't really had a detailed look at Pei Chia's paper. I read an earlier draft, but she seems to have changed quite a bit since then. But that would be great if you have any comments about the topic. I'm probably going to write a response to her and it would be great to field some of the ideas here.

ScottSommers wrote:I haven't really had a detailed look at Pei Chia's paper. I read an earlier draft, but she seems to have changed quite a bit since then. But that would be great if you have any comments about the topic. I'm probably going to write a response to her and it would be great to field some of the ideas here.

And drink some honey water prior to your next radio foray, croaky voice!

Scott Sommers (2005a) has proposed a thesis about economic migration of English teachers on his blog, which attracted attention and generated controversy in the expatriate community in Taiwan. As an English teacher himself, he noticed that the vast majority working in the industry are ‘young, single, marginally employed holders of liberal arts degrees.’ He provocatively argues that they are economic migrants marginalized by a shrunken labor market in the West as a result of capital outflow and global outsourcing.

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