Monday, April 24, 2017

A recent string of robberies on BART trains took a frightening turn when dozens of juveniles swarmed an Oakland station over the weekend and commandeered a train car, forcing passengers to hand over bags and cell phones and leaving at least two with head injuries, witnesses told the transit agency.

The incident — the first of its kind in recent memory — occurred around 9:30 p.m. Saturday at Coliseum Station.

According to a police officials, witnesses said 40 to 60 juveniles flooded the station, jumped the fare gates and rushed to the second-story train platform. Some of the robbers apparently held open the doors of a Dublin-bound train car while others streamed inside, confronting and robbing and in some cases beating riders.

Flashmobbing BART? That's a poke in the eye for ridership. Oakland PD can't just stand down over this; Klowntifa beating on people is one thing, affecting the ridership of BART is a whole different thing.

There's cameras in the stations. BART should just hand copies of the video over to the CHAN's and prepare to receive a string of ID's. Although I'm sure they are all just yoofs who were ruined by Librulism and really didnu nuffin.

There's cameras in the stations. BART should just hand copies of the video over to the CHAN's and prepare to receive a string of ID's

Even when a camera is less than 10 feet away even a nigjudge can't tell one niglet from another.http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Assault-Charges-Against-6-Teens-Dropped-in-Metro-Station-Attack-374943151.html

Oh this is going to be interesting...Coliseum Station is a warzone on the outside, but you have to pass through it to get to the uber-rich dublin/pleasanton/livermore areas. As long as you stayed on the train you were safe there.

Not any more...expect lib civil war in the papers and the courts as the monied multiethnic Dublin techies go against the angry Oakland activists. A lot of the folks from Dublin/Pleasanton are Asian and Indian.

Cell phones should have a feature just like "emergency dial" where a single button press, even from the lock screen, starts recording audio/video that is sent directly to authorities (i.e. a 911 receiver) as well as make a copy to your own dropbox type service. And, surely, I'm not the first person to think of this, either. Wonder why it hasn't been done...

Oh no, the virtue signaling leftists of the Bay Area getting a taste of their own medicine, how horrible. Bay Area people are the absolute scum of the Earth and something like this happening to them by their pet poor oppressed African Americas is something these people deserve. I'd like to think that this incident and the soon to be many more like it would wake some of them up, but it's not going to happen. These people will sing the praises of diversity while their pet diversity rapes their women and murders them.

I expect to see more Bernie Goetz's this time on the West Coast. The NYC subway is relatively safe nowadays but there was a time when this sort of event with gangs of vibrants robbing everyone in sight were common. The same measures that cleaned up the NYC subway could be used on the BART but that would take political will the San Francisco elite don't have.

Well, I'm being choked by schadenfreude. Yeppers, think of it like this.....Basic reasoning skills....Rich folk who won't fight back, flashing that fancy iPhone:-D and there ya go! Who says all that education was wasted, Hmmmm? Texas has the​ cure for that.

Rich people trolling their wealth before thugs.... Darwinism in action.

Bet you these juveniles were marauding white teens. I mean, whites commit all the crime, if what I see in tv is true. Like those home security ads. Always a white guy lurking outside, planning a home invasion of the attractive white woman and kids inside the McMansion. Alarm trips, and he runs away clumsily, making sure to expose just enough skin so we can see he's white.

lowercaseb wrote:Oh this is going to be interesting...Coliseum Station is a warzone on the outside, but you have to pass through it to get to the uber-rich dublin/pleasanton/livermore areas. As long as you stayed on the train you were safe there.

Not any more...expect lib civil war in the papers and the courts as the monied multiethnic Dublin techies go against the angry Oakland activists. A lot of the folks from Dublin/Pleasanton are Asian and Indian.

This is going to get loud out here...

Brings to mind one description of the Democratic Party: a conclave of warring tribes that have come together in the anticipation of common plunder." Different Democratic factions literally battling each other. He he! It'll be a beautiful thing to watch.

One year at the University of Chicago, there was an epidemic of local high school kids who went around in gangs of similar size to this incident and attacked male students walking alone. They claimed to want to target white American males, but they weren't very good at that as one of the victims was a gay Hispanic immigrant and another a German immigrant. I remember they stole the recently married German's wedding band. In several cases, they didn't even bother stealing anything, as the real goal was to vent some rage by beating up an Evil White Male.

I imagine if everyone on that train car had peacefully given up their belongings, there still would have been beatings. Very few people in the US steal because it's a good way to make money.

@lowercaseb People are completely delusional about the safety of public transportation. My roommate was recently mugged on her bus, and of course the guys got away. I was once waiting for a train when a homeless threatened to rape me if I didn't flirt with him. I tried to convince a friend via text to call the cops and he just would not understand what I was trying say. Afterward he was like "Why didn't you just ring the emergency bell?"

WHY IS THERE NO WAY TO TEXT THE POLICE IN SF? I can't wait for private police forces in the post-United States.

And before anyone asks, yes, the perps in both of the above stories were black.

S. Misanthrope wrote:@lowercaseb People are completely delusional about the safety of public transportation.

I have to agree with you there...I used to ride the 38 everyday when I worked downtown. Oh the adventures you would have whenever you got a schizophrenic homeless guy come onboard, monolog loudly about how he was going to beat Spyder's lily white ass next time he saw him, tell the other riders in the packed bus to get back because he was crazy and didn't give a shit and then get pushed off the next stop. every day...different homeless guy, different person mentioned in the monolog but same basic scenario. I think folks are well aware of the dangers of Muni...but you are totally correct about BART. I used to do the reverse commute to dublin for about a year. I actually felt quite safe. Boy would I have been wrong if I was on that train today.

Icicle wrote:Yet another reason to oppose mass transit systems. If you build it, they will come... to rob, steal, and cause general mayhem.

They seem to work just fine in Japan for some strange reason.

They even work quite well in Eastern Europe without robbery or mayhem, as I know from experience (other than being horribly overcrowded to the point of being squeezed in like human sardines -- sardines with elbows). Civilization is the absence of dindus.

@41 "Yet another reason to oppose mass transit systems. If you build it, they will come... to rob, steal, and cause general mayhem."

One of the biggest reasons, aside from the ridiculous expense, why suburbs around Portland, Oregon oppose expanding light rail public transit is the increase in crime once Portland criminals take advantage of the easy commute.

Panzer Man wrote:They even work quite well in Eastern Europe without robbery or mayhem, as I know from experience (other than being horribly overcrowded to the point of being squeezed in like human sardines -- sardines with elbows). Civilization is the absence of dindus.

Good strategy. The dindus could not even get in the train, and if they did, they could not move.

A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents wrote:There's cameras in the stations. BART should just hand copies of the video over to the CHAN's and prepare to receive a string of ID's.They're specifically not releasing any surveillance to the public because the perps are believed to be juveniles.

Not coincidentally, this also lets them e-race the incident and avoid revealing anything that's not Narrative-compliant.

Someone in BART needs to leak that video and bust this wide open. It's time for actual justice.

Panzer Man wrote:Civilization is the absence of dindus.It's more than that, but dindus who are not under firm human control destroy civilization.

2. I've considered Cali a foreign country for 2 decades, we are not alone in that, its all so weird, normals are attacked in Cali.

Is it a judgement of God or act of God that power in Cali went out? Reported by Drudge in recent days.

No mention of race, just youths, the real men and real women are watching and no one wants violence everyone likes the non aggression principle but these pple are pushing violence and dyscivic actions.

Where are the calls for peace or teh antioanl guard?

I was floating if and when BLM, antifas and youthy looters all converge after all they love (two words that should stay together)criminality-diversity so much.

Just watching and doc'ing crime after crime, why wasn't this live streamed at facebook, interesting, and who timed and funded this youthful movement agasint white people on a train, another victim disarmament zone.

Vox, would love to see you comment on the removal of historic Confederate monuments in New Orleans. The first one came down in the middle of the night, by company who blacked out their logos on their vehicles, and whose employees dressed like antifa, in black, with hoods and masks.... Three more monuments to go -- to Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee and P.G.T Beauregard....

40-60 people and they only got a few cell phones and wallets? We had a quartet of purse snatchers in my area recently - attacking women in parking lots from behind, grabbing the purse and running off. They only had a couple of victims (none seriously hurt) before they got hurt. Also didn't make much money, especially when divided by 4 dindus.

We should expect that the dindus, with tacit support from their community organizer handlers, will be finding new and varied ways to constantly step up the civil war against YT now that Trump is in office.

Steve Sailer has commented on this before -- the only reason this sort of thing doesn't happen way more often is because of pervasive surveillance. Such a shame that massive technological/economic resources have to be spent this way.

OT. Jimmy Wales, I'd not registered, but apparently he is a founder of Wikipedia, is on BBC1 flagship news program. Talking about Wikipedia's new and revolutionary innovation, a news page on Wikipedia.

I love the phrasing. Someone with a real writing talent worked on this article, explaining that the damage consisted in "leaving at least two with head injuries" and later saying that "victims suffered head/facial injuries." You can't phrase it in a more passive way, making it sound like a natural disaster or an accident: a hurricane passed and left some with head injuries or resulted in some suffering head/face injuries. Yes, the gust of wind was a little bit strong, and some people fell with their faces down and injured themselves.

Speaking about carrying a gun. I don't see how a gun could have helped in this case. How many shots would you have been able to fire before it is grabbed and forced out of your hand by the 40-60 attackers?

RabidRatel wrote:MIG wrote:How many shots would you have been able to fire before it is grabbed and forced out of your hand by the 40-60 attackers?

They would not have stayed behind to grab their dead well before you have emptied the fist magazine. These are cowards, they attacked only because they knew their would be no resistance.

Exactly. These aren't a military force or even determined rioters, it's just a bunch of punk robbers who have zero interest in getting hurt along the way and who rely on terror and intimidation.

Of course, firing upon them would release a legal (and probably illegal) ****storm on the armed citizen that would make the Zimmerman vs. St. Trayvon d'Skittles affair look like a polite exchange of pleasantries.

haus frau wrote:@41 "Yet another reason to oppose mass transit systems. If you build it, they will come... to rob, steal, and cause general mayhem."

One of the biggest reasons, aside from the ridiculous expense, why suburbs around Portland, Oregon oppose expanding light rail public transit is the increase in crime once Portland criminals take advantage of the easy commute.

Friends of mine live in a suburb of Akron, Ohio, and she works in Akron. I once asked my friend if there was public transportation to Akron and she replied, "oh, no, we don't want them here."

@Eric the Red Yeah, they must be branded indelibly. Eduardo called them Twinkie Ninjas which is bretty good. Pretty sure Stasi is down the memory hole for most these days. Maybe call 'em Pol Pot, or Pol Pottymouths or Pol Pot Heads. Rothschild means Red Shield, link that to their colors, howsabout Rothschild's Raiders. These pukes are ripe for some merciless ridicule, fire up the meme machine lads.

There are two immediate solutions to this issue of huliganen partisanen robbing trains.

Realistic: Let BART bypass Oakland.

Fantastic: let Oakland be destroyed by massive rioting and pogroms.

When i just got here in the 94, i was very surprised to learn that police reimburses victims of robberies for up to twenty dollars in the bad welfare-infested neighborhoods of Bronx, NY. Instead of arresting the robbers they asked you not to carry too much cash with you but only a little bit, enough to placate the robbers. Russian socialism was evil but it would never allow anything like this. Maybe because it did not sit around overvaluing humanism to ridiculous point of bankrupting the idea.

If you are carrying something chambered in sig357 or 45 with FMJ(full metal jacket) or EFMJ; at that close a range, in a train car, each round is likely to pass through the first target and strike another.

Controlled fire with a 12rd mag gives you the potential for almost 20 hits. It might be intetesting to consider a FMJ, large caliber rig for intentional over penetration in response to flash mob threats. Although that does obviously increase the risk of unintended collateral hits

Who uses the word "juveniles?" Connie Francis? Frankie Lymon? For that matter, who uses the word "frightening?" Mrs. Howell from "Gilligan's Island?"

The deliberate use of an antiquated words associated with the quaint 1950s is an attempt by the writer or editor to purposely downplay what's happening.

Had this happened in a frat house at Duke, not only would the word choice have been different but the lead to this story would have been restructured. Instead of reading like something Donna Reed would tell her neighbor over tea, it would have been designed for maximum emotional impact.

Writers and editors know that even though several words can mean the same thing, picking one over another can change the psychological "picture" they paint of any given subject. That's something to think about when you see stories like this and they don't include words like "mayhem" in the lead.

1. a thermodynamic quantity representing the unavailability of asystem's thermal energy for conversion into mechanical work, ofteninterpreted as the degree of disorder or randomness in the system. 2. lack of order or predictability; gradual decline into disorder. 3. (in information theory) a logarithmic measure of the rate oftransfer of information in a particular message or language.

Tolerance is inactivity. Inactivity invokes entropy.

Just as an abandoned farm will succumb to overgrowth, its barn rottingand infested with termites, the once comfy home mildewed and rampantwith mice, so too can an abandoned civilization devolve into chaos. Behold entropy.

@Lovekraft - and that's why a screwdriver is an essential tool for every day carry in Blue cities. If it happens to be sharper than a standard 1/4 by 4, let them prove it didn't come from the factory that way.

For awhile, I was working nearby to that station. On occasions when I couldn't drive for one reason or another, I'd take BART and catch a shuttle to work from that station. There were a number of white collar workers who get off at that station to catch shuttles to nearby jobs.

That BART station area is diversity pot. And by diversity, I mean no whites. As a major sports hub, there are lots of public transportation options for these Oakland youth raiders to make their escape. But I bet most didn't bother hurrying too much. There is an extremely lax attitude to catch anything less than multiple homicide perps in Oakland. Mostly because there is so much low and mid-level crime that the resources just aren't available.

Those of us who are not mentally ill have a hard time relating to the liberal idiots who can shrug off being robbed. Although they'd be furious if a white person robbed them. But they hate themselves and their own race, or they feel massive guilt for the sins of their forefathers because it was carefully and relentlessly pounded into them by the Cathedral. Look to the liberals who refuse to report rape out of guilt of being white.

Not quite true. California permits, which are fairly easy to get in some rural counties, are valid statewide. Although I can't imagine why anyone from e.g. Arcata would willingly go to the Bay Area and ride BART through Oakland, so it's kind of a moot point.

Anyone who allows a criminal to tie them up is asking for a long, painful, horror-laden death. Especially if it's a non-white criminal. Better to get shot outright resisting. Of course, being able to return fire is the best option of all.

According to a police officials, witnesses said 40 to 60 juveniles flooded the station, jumped the fare gates and rushed to the second-story train platform. Some of the robbers apparently held open the doors of a Dublin-bound train car while others streamed inside, confronting and robbing and in some cases beating riders.---

One of the biggest reasons, aside from the ridiculous expense, why suburbs around Portland, Oregon oppose expanding light rail public transit is the increase in crime once Portland criminals take advantage of the easy commute.---

Same thing in Atlanta area with Cobb County and others. They know better than to have a MARTA line end in their counties.

"Connie Chastain wrote:Vox, would love to see you comment on the removal of historic Confederate monuments in New Orleans. The first one came down in the middle of the night, by company who blacked out their logos on their vehicles, and whose employees dressed like antifa, in black, with hoods and masks.... Three more monuments to go -- to Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee and P.G.T Beauregard...."

I don't know if he answered you or not.

But. New Orleans used to be one of my favorite towns to visit.

I always fondly remember riding the St. Charles trolley car down around Lee Circle, Seeing the glorious Lee Monument, and then coming back-up the riverside , ending in the Quarter.

What the Leftist Liberals do not seem to understand.....among many things.....is the fact that suspension of the Rule of Law and the anarchy and lawlessness that immediately result is something they should fear.It is only respect for the law that keeps them from being horribly dead by this afternoon.Take away the Rule of Law and they will find it cuts both ways and the hunter becomes the hunted.They won't like it, but they will deserve it.

You actually think the law is dispositive on things like this, Bill? Lemme tell ya a story, true story as it happens:

Once upon a time there was a young infantry lieutenant, on leave, in Boston, of all places. He took his even younger wife to dinner in chinatown, to Number 9 Tyler Street, matter of fact. He wore a rather nice (adjusted for inflation 3-4-5k USD) tweed suit and, under the suit, a pistol, an S&W 659, in a shoulder rig. Of course, this being Boston, he had no CCW.

Without thinking, before sitting down he took off his suit jacket. His wife's eyes grew quite wide and she tried to tell him "your gun is showing."

The lieutenant realized several things at once. 1. Yes, the pistol was showing, but 2., he was tanned, young, clean cut, well dressed, and fit, so 3., "Everyone is going to assume I am a cop or a properly licensed mafioso, but, conversely," 4., "if I put the jacket back on, they'll assume there's something wrong and, next thing I know, the cops will be here." So he left the jacket off, the illegal pistol showing, and proceeded to have a nice dinner with his wife.

When he brought the bill, the waiter tried to get him to take a "police discount."

Hahaha. Ok, no. The suit was filed claiming 11m in damages, because a value in a prayer for relief in a p.i. case and $4.05 will get you a latte at sbux. the case actually settled for an "undisclosed amount." That could be anywhere from 5k to maybe 350k here.

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