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It took Nicole all of 2 weeks to get over losing her son but a month later she's still crying over Daniel. There is something seriously fucked up with this situation.

That's the problem she's never even greived for her son, not really, the baby's death they've made more about Dannifer and Nicole's apologies to them for losing her child and accusing Saint Jenn and trying to steal away perfect Dr. Douche. Sorry but the loss of the child to the writers was a plot point for Dannifer, he hasn't been a factor to anyone. EJ nor Nicole even tried to have any kind of service for the child, that's truly the sad part.

I have to question the sanity of the Hortons and their friends, who keep vacationing at this off the grid hellhole of a cabin when they know their lives are made up of one crisis after another, and that they are going to end up stranded on Smith Island at the worst possible time. Buy a speedboat or something, people.

I just want Gabi gone. Prison, back to Mama Hernandez, whatever. Since that's not going to happen though, she should, at the very least, get ostracized for what she did. I heard that FS is really good in his scenes with Gabi tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing that. I also wish Chad had connected the dots for Sonny and pointed out that Jack would still be alive if it weren't for Gabi.

Don't care about the wedding.

I wouldn't be surprised if Chad brought up the Jack thing at the wedding, telling Abby this. He would probably also tell Brady and Jennifer about Madison/Jack. I can see Gabi being left with nothing, maybe even not Nick. I can see Will and Sonny splitting up, and Will not even caring about Gabi anymore. I can see Chad and Nick being ostracized (maybe Sonny as well) for keeping the secret. Heck, Gabi will probably lose her baby from the stress, and the truth of the paternity will be revealed.

This garbage with Agent Orange and Bitchifer is absurd. A Christmas miracle?? :puke::puke: The whole recap was painful read with between the Dannifer puke fest, Nicole crying over the worthless grease ball Danho, and the ridiculous Will/Gabi/Nick wedding planning BS. Once again, I commend those who can actually sit through this episode.

Yeah, they're laying on the Limburger for Dannifer 2.0. I knew Dr. Sleaze losing his hand tremors would be the so-called "Christmas miracle." And once again Jen-Jen is burbling about how she loves him with "all her heart." So much for . . . what's his name? The guy she supposedly loved for half her life, the one who died saving their firstborn . . . Jed, Jock, or Jake something, wasn't it?

I just hope Dannifer 2.0 ends as badly as I imagine it will. And I'll have absolutely no sympathy for Jennifer when it does, because at this point, she deserves what she gets.

That would be worth watching! So they actually went there with the reuniting of the horribles...OMG what a shit festival

This garbage with Agent Orange and Bitchifer is absurd. A Christmas miracle?? :puke::puke: The whole recap was painful read with between the Dannifer puke fest, Nicole crying over the worthless grease ball Danho, and the ridiculous Will/Gabi/Nick wedding planning BS. Once again, I commend those who can actually sit through this episode.

Yeah, they're laying on the Limburger for Dannifer 2.0. I knew Dr. Sleaze losing his hand tremors would be the so-called "Christmas miracle." And once again Jen-Jen is burbling about how she loves him with "all her heart." So much for . . . what's his name? The guy she supposedly loved for half her life, the one who died saving their firstborn . . . Jed, Jock, or Jake something, wasn't it?

I just hope Dannifer 2.0 ends as badly as I imagine it will. And I'll have absolutely no sympathy for Jennifer when it does, because at this point, she deserves what she gets.

That would be worth watching! So they actually went there with the reuniting of the horribles...OMG what a shit festival

I have to question the sanity of the Hortons and their friends, who keep vacationing at this off the grid hellhole of a cabin when they know their lives are made up of one crisis after another, and that they are going to end up stranded on Smith Island at the worst possible time. Buy a speedboat or something, people.

I just want Gabi gone. Prison, back to Mama Hernandez, whatever. Since that's not going to happen though, she should, at the very least, get ostracized for what she did. I heard that FS is really good in his scenes with Gabi tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing that. I also wish Chad had connected the dots for Sonny and pointed out that Jack would still be alive if it weren't for Gabi.

Don't care about the wedding.

I wouldn't be surprised if Chad brought up the Jack thing at the wedding, telling Abby this. He would probably also tell Brady and Jennifer about Madison/Jack. I can see Gabi being left with nothing, maybe even not Nick. I can see Will and Sonny splitting up, and Will not even caring about Gabi anymore. I can see Chad and Nick being ostracized (maybe Sonny as well) for keeping the secret. Heck, Gabi will probably lose her baby from the stress, and the truth of the paternity will be revealed.

You know, I have this feeling that these writers will never have anyone bring up the connection to the deaths of Jack and Madison. The wedding reveal will mostly be about Will being the father of Gabi's baby, obviously. Chad will most likely make reference to Melanie -- which will upset Dan, Maggie, Jennifer. I think even Abby will not make the connection to her dad. She'll only be upset about Melanie.

I think only the audience sees the connection and remembers. The current writers are ignoring it along with much of the rest of the Daysaster and the MarDar era that don't suit their storytelling preferences.

I can't imagine they'll be the writers for much longer. Isn't Days still consistently last in the soap opera ratings, like, every single week?

So, this was my first episode watching in about 6 months. And I still can't believe they are writing for Dr. Tan Man the Pathological Jerk as if he was a hero worthy of someone's love. :puke: Ugh. I don't understand the bizarre attachment that the writers seem to have for his character: he's not likable or interesting, Nicole is way too good for him, and he's taken a wrecking ball to Jennifer's character, who I used to love. I think we can officially say that he is beyond salvation at this point. Drop a bus on him, put him out pasture, SOMETHING other than being tan and smarmy and smug all over those (once) peerless gals, Jennifer and Nicole.

The wedding stuff is agonizingly horrific because the Hernandez family is involved. Full stop. And Sami's romantic connections are not believable, to me, because they write all the characters in it so inconsistently. Sami wants Lucas yesterday, Rafe today and E.J. tomorrow -- but both Rafe and E.J. wanted Nicole yesterday, who now wants... :sleep: At some point, you're just throwing characters at each other randomly and none of it has any emotional resonance.

but it seems like the treatment could have workedi never would have had it if not for Jenniferif i didnt have the treatmentgod knows what would have happened to her she saved my lifeshe helped me get through losing Parker and now she helped me get my career back

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i think deep down i knew you didnt love me i thought maybe you could one day but i knew it was never really me

All of the above were the most sickening dialogue I have ever encounter on a soap :puke: We get it. Dan is the man, all the women love him, he can do no wrong. He was able to overcome His shaky hand syndrome becuase of his love for Jen :moon: . And :puke: at Nicole's dialogue. That manslut must be packing some good stuff :drunk: .

but it seems like the treatment could have workedi never would have had it if not for Jenniferif i didnt have the treatmentgod knows what would have happened to her she saved my lifeshe helped me get through losing Parker and now she helped me get my career back

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i think deep down i knew you didnt love me i thought maybe you could one day but i knew it was never really me

All of the above were the most sickening dialogue I have ever encounter on a soap :puke: We get it. Dan is the man, all the women love him, he can do no wrong. He was able to overcome His shaky hand syndrome becuase of his love for Jen :moon: . And :puke: at Nicole's dialogue. That manslut must be packing some good stuff :drunk: .

It's definitely bad, even for soap dialogue. And if there was ever any doubt that Daniel was a huge, honking Gary Stu of the current regime, I'd say this episode lays that doubt to rest. And how selfless of Jen-Jen to develop appendicitis for the sole purpose of showing Dr. Sleaze that his hands have been magically cured. Obviously, these two noble, saintly, altruistic beings are made for each other. :sarcasm:

And how selfless of Jen-Jen to develop appendicitis for the sole purpose of showing Dr. Sleaze that his hands have been magically cured. Obviously, these two noble, saintly, altruistic beings are made for each other. :sarcasm:

They are the holy anointed ones of Salem. The almighty chosen ones. They've witnessed a miracle together and probably they will both shit flower petals from now on.

Maggie is being written as such a hypocritical bitch right now. No way would the real Maggie talk down about Jennifer like that, "making a mess/ruining Daniel's life". That is why I was hoping TomSell would've fixed Daniel being Maggie's son because ever since she found out, she's been nothing but an annoying manipulative shrew.

And the writing for Jennifer is also atrocious. Her love for Daniel literally makes me struggle to keep my lunch in every day. It's a shame how all of my favorites are being destroyed, and that also includes Nicole.

I want Jack back. Failing that, I want Peter Blake back, preferably played by Jason Brooks. Either or both of them would be so much better than Dannifer.

I'm liking the soapiness of the younger set. Of course Sonny says he's not ready for a family. Of course Chad spills the truth. Of course Johnny has a talk with Santa. Of course Sami asks Will to be the best man. Small moments adding up to a big mess.

I can't imagine they'll be the writers for much longer. Isn't Days still consistently last in the soap opera ratings, like, every single week?

So, this was my first episode watching in about 6 months. And I still can't believe they are writing for Dr. Tan Man the Pathological Jerk as if he was a hero worthy of someone's love. :puke: Ugh. I don't understand the bizarre attachment that the writers seem to have for his character: he's not likable or interesting, Nicole is way too good for him, and he's taken a wrecking ball to Jennifer's character, who I used to love. I think we can officially say that he is beyond salvation at this point. Drop a bus on him, put him out pasture, SOMETHING other than being tan and smarmy and smug all over those (once) peerless gals, Jennifer and Nicole.

The wedding stuff is agonizingly horrific because the Hernandez family is involved. Full stop. And Sami's romantic connections are not believable, to me, because they write all the characters in it so inconsistently. Sami wants Lucas yesterday, Rafe today and E.J. tomorrow -- but both Rafe and E.J. wanted Nicole yesterday, who now wants... :sleep: At some point, you're just throwing characters at each other randomly and none of it has any emotional resonance.

OMG. Seriously. There are only four soaps. This is no longer statistically relevant. The demos are what's important, and they haven't been doing horribly there. I hope they'll be gone soon, and maybe we'll be lucky but it won't be because of ranking.

I am ready to punch my ticket and board the Chad rehabilitation/vengeance against Gabi train. That lying witch is so in need of her comeuppance. I hope he realizes whose blood runs through his veins and he makes Gabi suffer. If Sonny can help him, so much the better.

Well, if he realizes DiMera blood runs through his veins, then he should also realize that his revenge plot will invariably fail and blow up in his face. This is especially true given that Chad is a very poor excuse for a DiMera.

I'm all for the truth coming out in the soapiest way possible, but I find the idea of Gabi being worthy of revenge laughable.

ITA and I know she did some horrible stuff but let's face it, at least she tried toward the end to make it right, but Andrew was coo coo for coco puffs, so that didn't work out for the best. Realistically, it's Andrew's fault that what happened, happened....Gabi is/was an accomplice to that initial crime...but let's be realistic here....no one pays long term in Salem..if Gabi ends up going to jail for this I'd be really, really surprised.

Quite a few in Salem have done worse been less repentent have not "paid" so I am not really thirsting for Gabi's blood because of Andrew.EJ brought faux Rafe into the life of Sami and his children.Faux Rafe murdered Faye and EJ did not pay so why should Gabi?

I am ready to punch my ticket and board the Chad rehabilitation/vengeance against Gabi train. That lying witch is so in need of her comeuppance. I hope he realizes whose blood runs through his veins and he makes Gabi suffer. If Sonny can help him, so much the better.

Well, if he realizes DiMera blood runs through his veins, then he should also realize that his revenge plot will invariably fail and blow up in his face. This is especially true given that Chad is a very poor excuse for a DiMera.

I'm all for the truth coming out in the soapiest way possible, but I find the idea of Gabi being worthy of revenge laughable.

ITA and I know she did some horrible stuff but let's face it, at least she tried toward the end to make it right, but Andrew was coo coo for coco puffs, so that didn't work out for the best. Realistically, it's Andrew's fault that what happened, happened....Gabi is/was an accomplice to that initial crime...but let's be realistic here....no one pays long term in Salem..if Gabi ends up going to jail for this I'd be really, really surprised.

Quite a few in Salem have done worse been less repentent have not "paid" so I am not really thirsting for Gabi's blood because of Andrew.EJ brought faux Rafe into the life of Sami and his children.Faux Rafe murdered Faye and EJ did not pay so why should Gabi?

Neither am i and since Nicole is the only character i know who has paid by actually going to jail and been shunned over and over with no one to hold her hand and tell her how wonderful she is, without any judgement whatsoever from the hypocrites and the other 99% of Salemites have yet to walk a day in her shoes while the whole town stones her for their own heinous crimes, Gabi is no different. She will not pay, just like the Dimeras/Bradys/Blacks/Roberts/ Kiriakis and some Hortons don't pay. It's nothing new.

If Gabi goes to jail I'll be pissed. Not because I care that much about Gabi, but there is a whole list of people who have done far, far worse things and far more deliberately who haven't spent a day in jail. And the worse offenders are related to Chad. I can't get on the "Gabi deserves punishment" bandwagon while she's serving DiMeras as the BRADY pub.

I'm sorry but relativistic morality is no way to operate a legal justice system. Gabi broke the law and deserves some jail unless she and the prosecutor can agree to a lesser charge and community service. Chad also needs some time behind bars for his assault against Nick. Neither one deserves a free pass here, especially not because other people have done far worse and gotten away with it. That is such a flimsy excuse. Crime is crime and Gabi has earned a prosecution. It's about time the laws were enforced in Salem and people paid for their crimes. Gabi and Chad would be good starting points. Gabi certainly won't receive any leniency from me because she is pregnant and didn't commit first degree murder.

Gabi deserved at the very least everyone knowing what she did. Justin's role in what he did with the signed agreements between Nick and Chad was a ludacris idea. First off because Chad should have told Nick press charges, go ahead you're an ex convict for murder and I beat you up for my girlfriend the (thought) daughter of the man you killed for her. Chad would have maybe gotten probation. Nick would have been in trouble with the police if for nothing else getting into a fight right after parole, whether he started it or not. As for Gabi, she walks away from all she did lives lost because of what she started, but even if anyone wants to say Andrew was the psycho (she hired him) and she knew he held Melanie captive and did nothing to help her for days.

But in the end Chad will get in trouble with the cops for breaking the agreement because he's a DiMera and Gaby is a Hernandez, with Will a Brady and Nick a Horton. :moon:

Chad should go to the cops and tell all now, that's revenge on ALL.

Nick did not "fight back",he never swung or attempted to swing at Chad.Nick was assaulted by Chad.You do not get into trouble on parole for being the victim of an assault.Chad was too much of a coward to tell Nick to press charges even though with his DiMera name and connections,he probably would have gotten probation if no one managed to buy off the prosecutor or judge.