The boys over at Thisismynext.com are running quite the scoop with codename “Samsung Hercules.” With a possible arrival date of August this one has some time to mature but the Thisismynext crew has quite the spec breakdown:

4.5″ 480 x 800 Super AMOLED Plus display

Android 2.3

NFC Support

42Mbps HSPA+ capable (category 24 HSDPA and category 6 HSUPA)

AWS plus 850/1900 MHz…they claim support for AT&T’s 4G will be here if the merger succeeds which interesting considering this phone is scheduled for August and the deal won’t close till next year?

These are certainly some impressive specs and if they come to fruition will make for quite the beastly phone. This might be why Thisismynext claims this phone is tagged for the “over $350″ price category. Let’s see how this one develops.

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Sounds good but I’m not really a big fan of samsung. But would still like to see where this goes. And the Hercules name does sound familiar as a Samsung device for T-Mobile in the past

Thad

Sensation still has the better screen.

http://www.facebook.com/iamm0ses Nick Kane

What if this is Tmo’s Galaxy s II?

michael

Agreed

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Anonymous

Thats what I’m saying. This IS the GS2 for t-mobile remember the Vibrant was a remake but still a galaxy S variant. I willing to bet the case is the same for here except we don’t get less we get more. And I imagine samsung went with Qualcomm over their own because their own chip can’t support more than 21mbps and t-mobile wanted to get 42mbps out this year. This is it.

Anonymous

From what I’ve seen the chip does top out at 21. +1 for Qualcomm right now.

Derekaggz

HOLY MOLY!

michael

Thats a nice phone.. 4.5″ display, dual core, 42mbps hspa+(verizon lte speeds), 1gb ram, dual core, 1080p recording, etc.. and based on T-mo’s and ATT’s new policy of 18 mths of android upgrades, that means it will see many upgrades, clearing the Samsung name issue.

Wow! And do they mean over 350 with a contract..!?

Hdj216

this phone is unnecessary, why would you put a dual core process to your head. You might as well put your laptop to the side of your head and talk through it. When will we look at the health issues of all these high end dual core process phone. You can brag that your phone might be the fastest in the world but you will be the fastest to get a brain tumor.

If you’re afraid of brain cancer, don’t use cell phones at all. stick to home phones.

Thad

If you’re afraid of brain cancer, don’t use cell phones at all. stick to home phones.

Anonymous

The whole “cell phones cause brain cancer” thing has been debunked. Those experiments used high-power radio waves over a short period of time to simulate low-power waves over a long period of time and it just doesn’t work that way. Also, the processor has absolutely nothing to do with the phone’s radiation levels.

Hdj216

mostly out of Europe, have linked mobile phone and personal digital
assistant (PDA) use to DNA damage, sperm death, and brain damage
including early-onset dementia. These findings regularly make big news
in the international press, but are by and large played down in U.S.
media.

Anonymous

Smh… Just because it has a dual-core doesn’t automatically mean its going to be running at full capacity 24/7 to where it would overheat. they run at low mhz’s like 300 or 500 on average unless you actually set your device to run at a high mhz for more than an hour which is just dumb.

Hdj216

Among the research cited in the study was a recent study by a Swedish
team of scientists that found a 420 percent higher risk of brain cancer
among people who had started using cellular or cordless phones as
teenagers. Older analog phones, which are now mostly off the market, had
been found to increase cancer risk by 700 percent. You really think that the government will not lie to you about cell phones when they lie about everything else over and over again.

Anonymous

Whoa!?!?

Wilma Flintstone

My thoughts exactly

Anonymous

So this is my next phone, I was hype about the sgsII but this seems better. Now as good as this phone sounds is this enough to pull you away from that N9 you were running around the room for earlier ? lmbo

Anonymous

Is this why we might not get the GSII? Because I’d rather have this….

Ferminmartin2003

Im still getting the sensation the infuse 4g for att looks cheap the htc sensation looks like a premier really well engineered phone with killer specs so sensation for me all the way samsung has disappointed me with their way past due updates and my vibrant keeps resetting the home screen on me where all my widgets and apps take a while to load

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Keemworld

Im sure the part about it using qualcomm duel core processor instead of samsung’s is false. I know its an early “fact sheet”, but just sayin.

Anonymous

Why? It makes actual sense if you read the thing that chipset supports 42mbps HSPA+ and Samsungs only does 21mbps for the moment. It would seem like t-mobile’s choice just like when they left out the ffc in the Vibrant in exchange for an extra 8mb’s over the competition.

Keemworld

Im sure the part about it using qualcomm duel core processor instead of samsung’s is false. I know its an early “fact sheet”, but just sayin.

Keemworld

Im sure the part about it using qualcomm duel core processor instead of samsung’s is false. I know its an early “fact sheet”, but just sayin.

Fundadjj

There is always gonna be something better around the corner. I am getting the Sensation because I dont like the toy like feel of the Samsung phones, plus I have always been a fan of HTC. If you want your device to do its job and look good, it most likely wont be a Samsung device IMO. If all you want is to compare specs with ur friends, then plan on upgrading at least every six months or being behind the pack.

phone head

yea tell me about man

Zifnab2k

Agreed. Finally going to have to give in and trade in my N1 when the Sensation comes out. Can’t keep waiting until next year… I wanted a Vanilla Android, but g2x just doesn’t cut it.

Anonymous

Nexus S does it job had various compliments asking about my phone.. people especially love the slick black look when its off. But these arguments are always like chevy vs ford at the end of the day you are either one or the other. Imo though HTC has had so many reliability issues.

Fundadjj

There is always gonna be something better around the corner. I am getting the Sensation because I dont like the toy like feel of the Samsung phones, plus I have always been a fan of HTC. If you want your device to do its job and look good, it most likely wont be a Samsung device IMO. If all you want is to compare specs with ur friends, then plan on upgrading at least every six months or being behind the pack.

alex

samsung best hadrware, but worst quality, samsung and htc should team up to make a nexus!!!!

And don’t forget blessed with Sense’s soul! Okay, not if it was a Nexus, but a man can dream.

alex

samsung best hadrware, but worst quality, samsung and htc should team up to make a nexus!!!!

alex

samsung best hadrware, but worst quality, samsung and htc should team up to make a nexus!!!!

alex

samsung best hadrware, but worst quality, samsung and htc should team up to make a nexus!!!!

http://www.facebook.com/trinifellah Joel Edwards

Actually this could be Tmo’s version of the Galaxy S II, because the Infuse 4G is single core not dual, it doesn’t have NFC support and it’s not Android 2.3… the only thing that doesn’t match the Galaxy S II is the size of the screen.

http://www.facebook.com/trinifellah Joel Edwards

Actually this could be Tmo’s version of the Galaxy S II, because the Infuse 4G is single core not dual, it doesn’t have NFC support and it’s not Android 2.3… the only thing that doesn’t match the Galaxy S II is the size of the screen.

http://www.facebook.com/trinifellah Joel Edwards

Actually this could be Tmo’s version of the Galaxy S II, because the Infuse 4G is single core not dual, it doesn’t have NFC support and it’s not Android 2.3… the only thing that doesn’t match the Galaxy S II is the size of the screen.

http://www.facebook.com/trinifellah Joel Edwards

Actually this could be Tmo’s version of the Galaxy S II, because the Infuse 4G is single core not dual, it doesn’t have NFC support and it’s not Android 2.3… the only thing that doesn’t match the Galaxy S II is the size of the screen.

Anonymous

Are you sure this isn’t T-Mobile’s Version of the Samsung Galaxy II…

Anonymous

Are you sure this isn’t T-Mobile’s Version of the Samsung Galaxy II…

Anonymous

Are you sure this isn’t T-Mobile’s Version of the Samsung Galaxy II…

Anonymous

Are you sure this isn’t T-Mobile’s Version of the Samsung Galaxy II…

Noel

Guess thats why Tmo is not listed as getting the GS2 cz they are expecting the Hercules. More and more choices on Tmo…rumor has it the iPhones 4S will also find a home on magenta. Lets not forget a new Nexus is also on the way .

Wilma Flintstone

@pimpstrong:disqus Where you at dude? You called this out. You said that Tmo would get the Infuse and here it is. I am intrigued with this device. A 4.5 inch phone is very very nice. I must demo this in the store. If I like it’s build quality, I may be getting this. Along with the N9 of course.

Anonymous

Thanks for the point out Wilma! Who woulda seen this coming both of us getting the phone of our dreams within the same week!(well find out about atleast).

I’ma just tell you that it will be light, plasticy, “seemingly fragile”, but fast as $#@! and bigger than your HD2. Nuff said now excuse me I gotta pack my tent and some energy bars so I can go get in line cuz you will NOT beat me to this!

Wilma Flintstone

One Problem @PimpStrong:disqus I’m already in my local Tmo store line waiting on this beast. Maybe next time buddy. LOL!!! I’m getting this AND the N9 and you ain’t beatin me to ANY of them. :P

Wilma Flintstone

The chances of both of us getting news of the phones we want in the same week are slim but hey, IT HAPPENED!!! WOOOOHHHOOOOOOO!!!!!!! Only wish the N9 was 4.3 but still, 64GB internal makes up for that and of course… MEEEEEEGGGGGGOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!! Anywho, I actually wanted the Infuse when they said 4.5 inch screen (I thought the LG Star was supposed to have a 4.5 inch screen as well but I haven’t heard anything about that in a while). Anywho, I GOT to Demo this one in the store. I CANNOT pass this up. 4.5 is the perfect size for a phone screen. 4.3 – 4.5 is the screen size I’m looking for.

Anonymous

I thought about that when I said “our perfect phones” and quickly realized the Nokia phone has a puny 4″ screen. You would be downsizing. Don’t do it.

Anonymous

I think the lightness is the true reason why ppl feel the GS was plasticky.

Anonymous

HA HAHA HAHAHAHAHAAAA!! I CALLED IT Yesssssssssssssssss!!!! Thank YOU TMO NEWS!!

This is THEEE phone of all phones!!!

Wait wait wait… this is a joke right?

Kitpogi

I totally disagree on your comment, “THEEE phone of all phones”, you can’t say that when HTC Sensation is about to drop the bomb on the mobile world in June. June 8 if I’m not mistaken. Sense is way over on top of Touchwiz… way over on top of it. :-)

Anonymous

Disagree all you want my brother. When I hold this phone I’m gonna spout all kindsa rediculous “non-Sense”

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Lol “non-Sense”

Kitpogi

At least this time, Samsung finally heard the cries of its die-hard fans… PUT A DAMN CAMERA FLASH ON AN IPHONE REPLICA DEVICE FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! hehe

Anonymous

I can’t argue with that!

So much stuff the Vibrant shoulda had…

Anonymous

IPhone replica? I don’t recall iPhone doing anything as great as this.

whosaidwhat

Sorry but I don’t think the sensation will be the best Android phone come June 8, that tittle will still be held by the Galaxy SII. At lease the European and Asian version. I can’t speak for the US version of the SGSII since the carrier’s might rape the phone with stupid bloatware (to slow it down) and redesign.

The sensation and EVO 3D will however be the second best phones for the next few months after they are released. I am counting on Google and the Nexus 3 to put all other phones to shame come late summer. LOL. One can dream right?

Anonymous

Galaxy S II has already begun its world domination and the Sensation will be HIGHLY successful but by no means out do the SGSII.

So, I agree with ya whosaid.

Anonymous

This phone makes the Sensation look like waste of money.

Anonymous

Sick…I’ve officially jumped off the SGSII bandwagon….This should be nice.

Wilma Flintstone

LOL It’s like Pirates of the Caribbean jumping ship. I’m going to see Pirates 4 this friday also. MWUHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Anonymous

Lol exactly like that, hopefully they both live up to the hype.

Anonymous

Or maybe you jumped right back on under new name.

Anonymous

Why would I? This an infuse with SGSII insides. Sounds like a winner in my book.

Anonymous

HA HAHA HAHAHAHAHAAAA!! I CALLED IT Yesssssssssssssssss!!!! Thank YOU TMO NEWS!!

This is THEEE phone of all phones!!!

Wait wait wait… this is a joke right?

Anonymous

“The Qualcomm Snapdragon APQ8060 or the processor that is happily running in HP’s new tablet, has now finally and officially announced by the company.

This dual-core (clocked at 1.2GHz in Touchpad) comes paired up with Adreno 220 GPU and features support for Stereoscopic 3D (S3D), 1080p 30fps HD video capture and playback, console-quality gaming and full web browsing including the support for Adobe Flash 10.

According to Qualcomm, the newest member of the Snapdragon family includes two asynchronous processor cores, an integrated Adreno 220 GPU with twice the processing power of its predecessor, support for up to a 16 Megapixel camera, and can capture and display HD 1080p stereoscopic video or 8 Megapixel stereoscopic still images to an autostereoscopic panel or a 3DTV (via HDMI).

Something that we haven’t seen yesterday is the Armageddon Squadron II, an arcade flight simulation game made by Polarbit, which is apparently optimized for HP Touchpad. According to Qualcomm’s press release, this game features dynamic lightning and shading with enhanced motion blur, all thanks to that Adreno 220 GPU.

Considering these quite an impressive specs, it is no wonder that HP’s WebOS based Touchpad is working well with multi-tasking and even might have impressive GPU power under the hood as well.”

I like everything about this except the potential release date. By the time this comes out the Nexus 3 will be announced or right around the corner with Kal-El.

Decisions decisions.

Farhan

Yea. But there’s always something new around the corner especially within 3-4 months of release of a new phone. I’m holding out for the Sensation 4G. That should hold me over until Tegra 3 phones come out.

whosaidwhat

You are right about that. It’s the state of the smartphone world. A new superphone is born every 3 to 4 months thanks to Android and it’s OEM’s. Good for us geeks though.

NardVa

Tmobile is dropping some top of the line phones.

Itmustbejj

I get so tired of the whole 42mbps HSPA+ radio crap. These phones won’t even get 14 mbps so why is the possibility of an imaginary cap a selling feature? Hell most people will even get the 7.2mbps that non HSPA+ compatible radios can exceed. I’m more interested in tangible features.

Itmustbejj

*will never. That will teach me to rage post.

michael

A 14.4mbps phone will see a peak of about 12mbps because of multiple network users, not being 2 inches from the tower, etc. its possible to reach 14.4mbps but it’s not probable. Its theoretical. 21 might see 14-15 as a peak.

42mbps on a loaded network is impressive though. 20-25mbps average. Not peak. Its about average, not theoretical.

http://profiles.google.com/peacock73 Anthony Peacock

Its not the Infuse. The only thing it has in common with that phone is the screen. Everything else is the SII in fact its the SII mkII because it has the NFC support that Samsung announced would be coming to the SII in June/July.

As far as it being outdated by release I have serious doubts that the new Kal-El proc will be in any device prior to the end of the year holiday season.

Its always a fine line to walk with tech. There is always something new coming down the pipe and you can wait forever for it.

I am not sure if this will mean I wont buy a Sensation – but it sure as heck gives me pause. The ability to switch between AT&T and Tmobile frequencies alone means this phone is far more useful to me as a world traveler.

Anonymous

Nice preemptive counter arguments!!

michael

TouchWiz 4.0…?

Biggbrother

4.5″ screen with only a 480 x 800 resolution? That might not look as sharp.

These specs sound completely made up.

Anonymous

The Infuse is real. The Galaxy S II is real. Put em together and here we are.

Bimmerz

Yeah, almost as though SGS2 and the Infuse hooked up one night, and this was their love-child. ;o)

the weird thing is, it sounds alot like the greek mythology too. two gods mated… created hercules… living with the small town commoners (t-mobile) lolwut. is there something we’re all missing here? hope this thing drops…

Bimmerz

Yeah, almost as though SGS2 and the Infuse hooked up one night, and this was their love-child. ;o)

Bimmerz

Yeah, almost as though SGS2 and the Infuse hooked up one night, and this was their love-child. ;o)

Just one of the reviews that mentions how great the screen looks. It also explains the concept of the super AMOLED and why a 480×800 res doesn’t mean quite as much as it used to in the bad old days.

Chris

I find it weird that samsung is using a qualcomm cpu.

Anonymous

They can’t keep up with the demand for Exynos chips unfortunately. I won’t let that cloud my judgement tho.

Anonymous

Does Exynos support 21mbps or 42?

http://twitter.com/Zeon45 Oscar Zeon Dominguez

Sounds more like a Samsung Galaxy S 2 to me

Now_onTMO

I want the galaxy s 2… this one is too big and doesn’t have superamoled plus… just get the galaxy s 2, i don’t want this.. pffft

Anonymous

“4.5? 480 x 800 Super AMOLED Plus display”

3…2…1…

Now_onTMO

Oh, my bad hehe.. but what about the processor? Will it be as good as the equinox or better? Im gonna have to check out the infuse to see how big it is.. good spec though,most likely tmo won’t get the gs2, if so then Hercules it is..

Anonymous

Better apparently and with this you can take advantage of t-mo’s newer network when its upgraded.

Davimiddljr

No one on the corner Gotta bop like this

Can’t wear skinny jeans cause my phone don’t fit

No one on the corner gotta Hercules like this

So I rock Roc jeans cause my phone so thick

http://profiles.google.com/yogageeta Bhagiratha das

Just ordered the Galaxy S2, and even though I will only get edge service … it will hold me up until Mr. Hercules shows its face state-side.
This is great news for T-Mobile customers who are craving for a beast like the SGS2.

Kudos to T-Mobile and for Samsung, lets hope the construction of the Hercules is not all plasticky as the S2!Just ordered the Galaxy S2, and even though I will only get edge service … it will hold me up until Mr. Hercules shows its face state-side. This is great news for T-Mobile customers who are craving for a beast like the SGS2. Kudos to T-Mobile and for Samsung, lets hope the construction of the Hercules is not all plasticky as the S2!

http://www.facebook.com/people/Simon-Yu/100000989859895 Simon Yu

So you have ~$800 to spare to just hold you over..

Anonymous

Hey we’re not all broke lol. Besides, can you imagine the resale value on a Euro SGSII here in the states on Ebay? @google-53b3235f172281121aaa50f106ffc138:disqus might only lose a hundred or two.

I’m a $500+ tax for a phone kinda guy if i want so $6-650 shipped isn’t a far stretch.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Simon-Yu/100000989859895 Simon Yu

So you have ~$800 to spare to just hold you over..

Bimmerz

Whoa – who let the dogs out?! lol This sounds like it will be a beast of a phone, WTG T-Mo! =o)

That being said, I honestly don’t think that this is T-Mo’s version of the SGS2 – but rather it’s T-Mo’s version of AT&T’s Infuse. Maybe T-Mo passed on the SGS2 for this, instead…? OR…If I am wrong, and this is T-Mo’s version of the SGS2 – then this would explain, as to why T-Mo wasn’t listed with the accessories for the SGS2, as the other 3 carriers were yesterday. Since this will obviously be bigger than the other carriers versions of the SGS2.Also, if this T-Mo’s version of the SGS2 – then we’re getting the “Pro” version this time around, as Sprint did with the Epic, with the original SGS.

No matter either way, glad to see T-Mo really stepping it up this year! It’s almost like; “what acquisition”? One thing is for sure, if the acquisition does happen, then I’d say T-Mo is going out with a BANG!

P.S. I’ll believe this has quadbands when I see it – can anyone say; G2X?

Anonymous

If the specs that leaked out are correct, this phone shouldn’t be considered a SGS2. As far as I know all of the SGS phones were pretty much identical on the inside and could be developed for concurrently for the most part. The processor listed for the Hercules is the same Qualcomm dual-core that is used in the Sensation 4G.

It’s very strange that Samsung is using a processor from an outside company. Only time will tell if this is a one-off design for T-Mo or a trend. I would bet on the former, though.

Anonymous

@863edb8b5ee67ee649681fef31312513:disqus & @wielandrew:disqus The Infuse 4G is still considered a “Galaxy S phone” so why can’t the 4.5″ Galaxy S II feature having Hercules still be considered a Galaxy S II?

What else would it be?

Bimmerz

I guess it could very well be our version of the GS2, as I didn’t know that the Infuse was considered a GS phone. So many phones, and so little time to keep up with the latest, before a new phone comes out – who can keep track!? lol

Anonymous

The size of the screen isn’t the issue. Not all of the Galaxy S phones use the same size screen, and all of the screens are the same resolution anyway so it makes no difference what size they are functionally.

The problem is that the Hercules uses a different processor/GPU. If you look at apps in the marketplace, they usually only say compatible (or not) with Galaxy S phones and don’t list the individual models. They are all the same phone just with different bodies tacked on. They perform and behave basically identically. This won’t be true of the Galaxy S II and the Hercules; the Hercules will have to be developed, benchmarked, tested, debugged separately from the Galaxy S II because it is based on a different chipset.

If Samsung used the Galaxy S II moniker for the Hercules, they could run into technical issues and complaints. I can imagine users trying to run applications that are listed as working on the Galaxy S II and then complaining when they don’t work on the Hercules; compatibility won’t be essentially guaranteed anymore.

There may be 4.5″ Galaxy S phones in the works, but to be called that it will have to use the Exynos processor.

What I don’t understand is why the Galaxy S II moniker is so important to people. It’s just a silly brand name.

Bimmerz

From what I am reading, the reason for a different processor chip, is because Samsung’s doesn’t support HSPA+ 42 yet, only 21. Looking forward to seeing this phone when it comes out, and to see if these early specs hold true, as they could change.

Man you ain’t lying the way I see it they should make a superphone and stick with it by promoting it and giving it all the updates they can to that one specific phone.

phone head

Thats what Android needs to start doing with all there phones not just the nexus phones!

Aerofanbig

Thats what Android needs to start doing? You do realize Android is an operating system, its not a phone manufacturer lol Android isn’t eve a company, its software made my Google. Other companies produce phones that run on Android, such as HTC, Motorola, Samsung, LG, Huawei and others. Your beef is with them constantly coming out with new models.

And if each company made ONE super phone and stuck with it, know what happens? Same people on this board bitch and moan about the lack of development and how their 2 week old phone has “last year features”. There is no winning with tech geeks, so, we deal with bigger, better, faster, newer phones every other week

Davidmiddljr

unless your Apple and make the IPhone, which is basically what @Fam said. But they suffer from what you say also. Haven’t seen any innovation from them since 3G.

Respawn

One problem: Samsung

Anonymous

No mam samsung is the solution. When you are ready for greatness swap that skirt of yours for a set of pants and give in to what is the greatest of androids.

Respawn

It’s a good solution for those who want a P.O.S. Phone with a crap update schedule. I’ll keep my skirt, thanks.

Am123

I’d rather get the HTC Sensation if it’s going to sport a processor using the same GPU 220.

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