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STD/STI Testing - - [quote=ABCWOMAN]No, Toki, you are the Jackwagon! The way you responded to this thread is an obvious display of your lack of intelligence about this issue. Maybemor and others are just attempting to make this lifestyle a little safer for all involved. Not sure if you read much but there was a situation recently in Kansas City where a man and his wife were HIV Positive and managed to put a number of people at risk of contracting HIV, and these are supposedly "swingers" who know better.
I've been to parties for over 4 years!! Not everyone uses condoms. Maybe you do! But even a condom isn't going to protect you against Herpes!! You always use latex with oral sex Toki.. hmm... probably not.. and guess what, you are putting yourself at risk for Herpes!
Even if you get tested for Herpes you still are at risk. You could have contracted it on the weekend, go in on Monday get tested, the whole gamut of tests, get negatives on everything. Then two to three weeks later you come down with itchy bumps that turn into sores, oh shit, guess what.. yep.. you just were infected and are now positive for Herpes.. Why.. because you don't get it!!!
The reason we need more people to talk about this is people are getting STD's on this site and others like it. I applaud Rob and his willingness to do what some of you may think is not needed. Toki is a prime example of why you don't play with just anyone!
Sure you can't stop everything all the time, and frankly anytime you have sex with multiple partners it's a risk. But let's not be stupid folks, let's be careful. You only have this life to live, why fuck it up for yourself and the one you love because you are stupid?
PS.. I wrote a long post a few months ago about our own experience with the STD issue. I received a number of posts about others who carry HSV2. Interesting thing is some of these people who have HSV2, DO NOT always tell their potential partners they have the disease. Why? PURE IGNORANCE or just they don't give a shit (which is worse).
I want to make sure everyone knows, this is MR ABC who is writing this post.[/quote]
Again, the voice of reason. (((K)))
Do we need to remind people that if they don't want to read about a subject on the forum they do not have to click on it?
But in the meantime, until all potential risks from having sex are wiped out, reminders to get tested, practice safe sex, and having open dialogues are not going anywhere. If it reading about hits a nerve perhaps you seriously need to ask yourself WHY. And then GET THE FUCK OVER YOURSELF.
Kudos to MM for posting this.
xox
Tammy

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Discreet phone number - Discreet phone number - [quote=Ucouple]I have always felt there is a huge difference between discretion and secrecy. Most in the lifestyle want discretion, and I think if care is taken to vet personalities most problems can be avoided. I’ve found that those desiring secrecy often have ill intent of some form or another.
Over the last couple years, within a matter of a few texts, I can sniff out someone who is being dishonest in their actions/relationship or has an unstable personality. It ends there.
Those that seem normal and well balanced I have no problems giving my personal number to. I see no need for a “burner” phone or number. If it doesn’t work out people just walk away, no malice necessary.
I feel honesty and discretion can still go hand in hand. Discretion is too often used as a reason to lurk in the shadows, however. Come into the light friends. If you want to fuck other people without letting your boss know, okay. Just make sure your wife does.
And, I promise your bishop is not trolling swingular to bust you![/quote]
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This! We have had similar experiences. We have found that quite a few guys playing behind their wives back, early on, want you to contact them, via this kind of number or post this kind of number as part of a booty call. We ignore any booty call, or email, with this kind of number posted. Anytime we get approached this way we just flat out ask the dude if he is married. Usually they say yes but their wife isn't interested, but he has her permission. Never has any such dude said yes you can talk to her. If people checkout as real, and we have agreed to meet with them, we have no problem giving them our phone numbers. We have never run into a problem. Anyway, don't most swingers have a KiK account? How many ways do we need to contact someone?

Tune into X96 3/12/09 @ 8:00 am - Ask a Swinger...... - If all of you are still all so up-set with the City Weekly Article about EH and Swingers why don't you just ask them to close? Or is getting up-front and personal too much for you? I heard they are trying to get out of their lease so they can move to a place with more bathrooms and maybe a shower. Someone at the city is trying to help them by forcing the landlord to build a firewall that he does not want to build. I guess a member of the City Counsel is one of their members or was one, or wants to be one (I never over heard the whole story) . The last party I attended there had a lot of really nice people. It looks like things are going pretty good. Well good enough they need a new place anyway (especially after Valentines day). Now THAT was a killer party!!!. Maybe you could just get them to close (if they get out of the lease) and not move. Moving is going to be a lot of work I

Happy Thanksgiving - - Happy holidays to all you sexy swingers out there

Harvest Ball - - The swingers in Price have a Harvest Ball? You Carbon County fuckers are KINKY! [em]Emo_84[/em]

I Don't Care if You LIKE Me... Let's F**K! (???) - - Ok... We recently (accidentally) overheard a conversation between three "newbie" couples. Earlier, we had talked to them and during the conversation had briefly mentioned our personal ideas about "Friendships" vs. "Notches on the Bedpost". (We're Pro-Friendship). We explained that we have many friends in the Lifestyle that we have never played with - as (we believe) most Swingers do. (?)
Anyway, during the course of the later (overheard) conversation we heard from two different participants the comment (and I quote), "I don't CARE if you LIKE me, Just F**k me and I don't care if I never see you again."
At first, we were annoyed with this attitude. Then somewhat amused. Now we're just curious... about how many "Seasoned" Swingers have this "You don't have to like me - Just let me F**k you" attitude... and how exactly that works? (We figure that if we don't like someone, why in the world would we share ourselves THAT PERSONALLY with them?) HOWEVER, we realize that not everyone thinks like we do and that there are a lot of different attitudes and feelings about the Lifestyle... and we're really curious now! Please share YOUR TAKE on this? We're not looking for validation on our own Lifestyle Ideas and Values (we don't need it), but we DO have Inquiring Minds and we're interested... No Judgments... Just Pure, Simple Curiosity......

Night Club / Bar sex - Had any? If so, where? - Hubby and I had sex all over a bar called Tracks in Tooele. We were horney little devils and may be ten times hornier now then when we first met. lol We also would get all of the club so horny that we often had parties that lasted a few days after.
One time I put out an invite to have swingers come to that bar and it was so full of swingers it felt like a swingers party but very quietly everyone watched one another. They kept coming for a while and then we moved to North Salt Lake. That was some hot action we started in that bar. we also got a whole bi sexual scene happen at that bar and that was hot with women all over each other. Love getting them going!!!
I can never tell you what our next journey is but I am sure there will be even more bars to be played in too!!! Im hoping to try some of them out in vegas the sexiest city on earth. lol

SouthJordanCouple - Fun Trails for ATV’s - [quote=SouthJordanCouple]Hi everyone. Just wondering if anyone can suggest any fun, scenic, not so rocky ATV trails somewhere in the Utah area? My girlfriend and I have 4-wheelers that we like to take out and ride on the weekends.
Also, are there any lifestyle friendly people that meet every now and then that go riding?[/quote]
Your going to have to be more specific, which lifestyle? Because off roading lifestyle people are just as adamant that it's a lifestyle as swingers are. And don't even get me started on Jeep folk..
But those that have utv's, side by sides, and even Jeep owners are just messing around, you want hardcore? Find yourselves some Samurai owners!

Question... - - Let me get this straight.... Wifey saw her hubby kiss you and said nothing?
Wifey saw her hubby grope your posterior and said nothing?
Then you touched hubby and she went ballistic?
If those are the facts... you are safe and she's a schitzo.
You did absolutely nothing wrong and THEY don't belong
in the swingers scene.