No mention made of the genocide of the Aborigines of Australia, the attempted genocide of the Maori of Aotearoa (they were a tough nut!), the colonisation of North America and the genocide of the North American Indian nations, etc...

A conservative that I agree with! We should go back in time to the 12th century and make sure that those mud hut living people never advance beyond their island. That way someone else can traipse through history raping human kind and divesting it of life and liberty - like the Spanish and Portuguese - oh they did that too!!

Guns, Germs and Steel. Certainly I would be surprised if most worlds didn't go through this several millennial period.

Consider how the borders were drawn and how peoples were moved about in different instances of British colonial rule, and you'll see that the roots of many contemporary conflicts are indeed born of British practices of divide-and-keep-divided. How did the Tamils wind up in Sri Lanka in the first place? How did Iraq, such an unstable mix of cultures and constituencies, wind up lumped together into one unit, with the Kurds split in half? How about Sudan divided against itself? Partition in India? It just keeps going.

John Bull isn't responsible for all of it, though. The French did a fine job of their share, too, and Uncle Sam got his hands in the mud as well, &c.

Great reading: The Many-Headed Hydra, by Linebaugh & Rediker, shows the history of some of this in the Atlantic world.

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People are always looking for something to blame, Funnily enough they never look for solutions...

Abandoning Dharma is, in the final analysis, disparaging the Hinayana because of the Mahayana; favoring the Hinayana on account of the Mahayana; playing off sutra against tantra; playing off the four classes of the tantras against each other; favoring one of the Tibetan schools—the Sakya, Gelug, Kagyu, or Nyingma—and disparaging the rest; and so on. In other words, we abandon Dharma any time we favor our own tenets and disparage the rest.

Caz wrote:People are always looking for something to blame, Funnily enough they never look for solutions...

Perhaps.

Trying to understand the underlying causes of something is often necessary to coming up with workable solutions. Example: you can't very well find a solution to the problem of obesity in North America without coming to grips with the causes of obesity (diet, lifestyle habits, poverty, access to proper health care & education, and so on). This is different from trying to assign blame for something in a guilt-trippy passive-aggressive sense.

If you want solutions, you need knowledge... "causal knowledge" as the brilliant (and English) historian Perry Anderson put it

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Abandoning Dharma is, in the final analysis, disparaging the Hinayana because of the Mahayana; favoring the Hinayana on account of the Mahayana; playing off sutra against tantra; playing off the four classes of the tantras against each other; favoring one of the Tibetan schools—the Sakya, Gelug, Kagyu, or Nyingma—and disparaging the rest; and so on. In other words, we abandon Dharma any time we favor our own tenets and disparage the rest.

There are solutions, just not permanent ones. Still, you take medicine when you are sick, no?

Tis true but there never has been any benifit from pointing the finger of blame.

Abandoning Dharma is, in the final analysis, disparaging the Hinayana because of the Mahayana; favoring the Hinayana on account of the Mahayana; playing off sutra against tantra; playing off the four classes of the tantras against each other; favoring one of the Tibetan schools—the Sakya, Gelug, Kagyu, or Nyingma—and disparaging the rest; and so on. In other words, we abandon Dharma any time we favor our own tenets and disparage the rest.

"All the sublime teachings, so profound--to throw away one and then grab yet another will not bear even a single fruit. Persevere, therefore, in simply one."--Dudjom Rinpoche, "Nectar for the Hearts of Fortunate Disciples. Song No. 8"

To be fair, it wasn't just the Brits. All the European nations were competing to build the biggest empire. The fact that the British won the contest may make them a little guiltier than the others, but they all were doing the same thing.

colonization is still on going, fear, paranoia and war with barbarians still blazes on the edge and borders of empires, as told by the central control authority. nothing new or historical under the sun. Cameron is a globalist new world order lap dog, like gordon brown and the other sock puppets. the C.O.G (continuity of government) still goes on regardless of who is the front man. the great game never went away, only the language and face was changed.

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