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The cops needed a little extra gas money, so they tacked it onto the fine.

To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised.

You could always move here, Moogles. All but like two of the cops in my town are in their 20s and they let their high school friends get away with alcohol consumption all the time. Hell, one of the officers was almost expelled when she was a senior in high school for bringing vodka in a water bottle to class. We have some high-quality law enforcement in these parts. 'Murrica.

I looked it up and the law says "May be fined" so now I'm sort of upset that he didn't let me go since I wasn't planning on doing anything with it. Oh well.

Originally Posted by Jb

Were you driving or walking?

Walking. It was relatively close by.

Originally Posted by Snorunt conservationist

Any fine is over the top. Just confiscate it. Or just go and solve crimes for the inflated salaries they're paid.

He actually had me pour it out in front of him. An entire 375 ml bottle gone, just like that.

Originally Posted by Pesky Persian

You could always move here, Moogles. All but like two of the cops in my town are in their 20s and they let their high school friends get away with alcohol consumption all the time. Hell, one of the officers was almost expelled when she was a senior in high school for bringing vodka in a water bottle to class. We have some high-quality law enforcement in these parts. 'Murrica.

Trčs haute qualité. When I was walking home I saw they were busting out the big van so I wonder if they put any of those kids in the drunk tank. Seems awfully extreme for a bunch of 13-16 year olds for the most part.

I looked it up and the law says "May be fined" so now I'm sort of upset that he didn't let me go since I wasn't planning on doing anything with it. Oh well.

Trčs haute qualité. When I was walking home I saw they were busting out the big van so I wonder if they put any of those kids in the drunk tank. Seems awfully extreme for a bunch of 13-16 year olds for the most part.

That's pretty bush league. I could understand more if you were drunk and carrying around an open container. But if you were totally sober and it was an optional fine, that's pretty lame. I'm assuming the drinking age in your province is 19? So you're pretty close to the legal drinking age anyway. How much of a difference is a few months going to make? I mean, really. It's not like you were driving or anything.

That's pretty bush league. I could understand more if you were drunk and carrying around an open container. But if you were totally sober and it was an optional fine, that's pretty lame. I'm assuming the drinking age in your province is 19? So you're pretty close to the legal drinking age anyway. How much of a difference is a few months going to make? I mean, really. It's not like you were driving or anything.

Gotta make that quota, man.

I understand both sides of the argument but in the end, the cops gotta get paid. If you get a chance, you take it.

I understand both sides of the argument but in the end, the cops gotta get paid. If you get a chance, you take it.

I get that it's illegal for a minor to be carrying around alcohol. But the fine was optional and Moogles was sober. I think it was a bit of an overreaction. It's not like that $230 is going to straight to his pocket.

I'd like to think that taxpayer money is better spent on preventing and apprehending genuine threats to society/the community.

Originally Posted by Pesky Persian

I get that it's illegal for a minor to be carrying around alcohol. But the fine was optional and Moogles was sober. I think it was a bit of an overreaction. It's not like that $230 is going to straight to his pocket.

He actually had me pour it out in front of him. An entire 375 ml bottle gone, just like that.

That's really stupid. Even the cops confiscating it would be a better use of it.

Originally Posted by Snorunt conservationist

I'd like to think that taxpayer money is better spent on preventing and apprehending genuine threats to society/the community.

You'd think so, wouldn't you?

... yeah. The world kinda sucks that way.

Originally Posted by Jb

Damnit. I just got summoned for Jury Duty. How do I go about getting out of this. Apparently I could get jailed for 2 years for just not showing up...

Join a cult, then begin spouting their ******** beliefs and philosophies whenever anyone talks to you during the process. You'll still have to waste a day, but at least they'll never pick you to be a juror.

Moogles, your treatment by the police does sound like overkill on their part. Compared to the phenomenon of a group of 13-16 year-olds having a party supplied with alcohol, at least, which does merit serious intervention. On a related note, my best friend was once told by a police officer that they don't actually have monthly/quarterly/whatever quotas for tickets or arrests, just that if they in general show little results for their work, they get flak for not doing their jobs (an observation with which I'm sure of all us who work can commiserate).

Originally Posted by likethelottery

IMO it goes beyond that, a little. People should learn how to deal with people they don't necessarily like that will be near them for a long term basis.

I had been referencing not this so much as the thick current of "If you don't like drinking and partying, there's something wrong with you" that permeates American/British (western?) youth culture and which reared its bleary-eyed, sticky head a few pages ago.

Robin Williams
1951-2014"What's it gonna be? I don't know. But maybe along the way, you take my hand, tell a few jokes, and have some fun. C'mon, pal. You're not afraid, are ya?"