RW had gone through the rigors of 4 "spring balls" and had proven himself off the field, as well.

TOBy's inflexibility (in a non-military enviornment) cost him respect AND his job.

— Posted by kato_karma3.0

And when TOB understood that RW probably would not be back for his 4th year, he allowed RW to be recognized on Senior Day. And when RW finally decided to bypass Spring Practice for professional baseball, TOB moved the program to the next chapter with MG at QB. And when RW asked if he could returnto the team, TOB informed him he was welcome to return but MG was the starter after Spring Practice.

&quot;I really want the fans, N.C. State alumni and most of all my teammates to know if I had been given an equal opportunity to compete for the starting job, I would not have asked for my release,&quot; Wilson said Saturday in a telephone interview. &quot;I am a competitor.&quot;

^^^^ and as fate (me always winning) would have it... Nowhere in that quote does it say anything remotely close to &quot;Glennon holding anyone/thing hostage&quot;....

It merely speaks exactly to WHAT I said happened... He was demoted to 2nd string, and didn&#039;t like the idea of having to earn the right to be put ahead of someone that was equally suited to do the job... So he transferred to a nice school, in a nice league, that didn&#039;t have a stud he&#039;d have to overtake as starter.

Logic, is actually rather easy to follow if you&#039;ve got the means.

"I really want the fans, N.C. State alumni and most of all my teammates to know if I had been given an equal opportunity to compete for the starting job, I would not have asked for my release," Wilson said Saturday in a telephone interview. "I am a competitor."

...unless you choose to support the argument that RW is a liar.

— Posted by kato_karma3.0

Boom goes the truth...now let&#039;s sit back with some popcorn and watch the denial from the delusional...

"I really want the fans, N.C. State alumni and most of all my teammates to know if I had been given an equal opportunity to compete for the starting job, I would not have asked for my release," Wilson said Saturday in a telephone interview. "I am a competitor."

...unless you choose to support the argument that RW is a liar.

— Posted by kato_karma3.0

Boom goes the truth...now let's sit back with some popcorn and watch the denial from the delusional...

Really?? This is what you are crowing about? This is just too funny. I don't think you have to worry about adding a fourth.

— Posted by ttaylor58

Come on let them crow it is all they have to distract themselves from the pathetic pile of dung their athletic program has become. It is curious how most of the blame for their disastrous season is blamed on the recruiting failures of the same coach they praise in this thread - As the Delusional Fan Base Turns

Really?? This is what you are crowing about? This is just too funny. I don't think you have to worry about adding a fourth.

— Posted by ttaylor58

Come on let them crow it is all they have to distract themselves from the pathetic pile of dung their athletic program has become. It is curious how most of the blame for their disastrous season is blamed on the recruiting failures of the same coach they praise in this thread - As the Delusional Fan Base Turns

Now here we go with claiming Wilson again............this after bidding him good by saying hello to Glennon. Yea..........it&#039;s like dook claiming what&#039;s his name in Cleveland. If it makes you feel better.......go for it.Thought the thread started by saying they all GRADUATED from state? Really?

Now here we go with claiming Wilson again............this after bidding him good by saying hello to Glennon. Yea..........it's like dook claiming what's his name in Cleveland. If it makes you feel better.......go for it.Thought the thread started by saying they all GRADUATED from state? Really?

— Posted by 75Tarheel

Newsflash: RW holds a degree from NC State. This makes him a GRADUATE.

also they left out the part that Glennon was 9 for 25 for 90 yds and 2 INT's but heck when you are delusional why let facts stand in your way.

Congrats on having some QB's in the NFL - has nothing to do with your current athletic program but it makes you feel better - go for it skippy

— Posted by sportznutV2.1

You sound awfully angry. So Gio is up for ROY. Congrats on having a player in the NFL - has nothing to do with your current athletic program, but if it makes you feel better, go for it skippy.

Also, remember last year when RW was up fro ROY as well?

— Posted by KT doesnt want to meet you

Russell Wilson was kicked to the curb by NC State and was drafted out of Wisc., sane State fans will admit that he may not have gone as high as he did in the draft had he not been at Wiscy. TOB did him a favor, while getting himself fired.

also they left out the part that Glennon was 9 for 25 for 90 yds and 2 INT's but heck when you are delusional why let facts stand in your way.

Congrats on having some QB's in the NFL - has nothing to do with your current athletic program but it makes you feel better - go for it skippy

— Posted by sportznutV2.1

You sound awfully angry. So Gio is up for ROY. Congrats on having a player in the NFL - has nothing to do with your current athletic program, but if it makes you feel better, go for it skippy.

Also, remember last year when RW was up fro ROY as well?

— Posted by KT doesnt want to meet you

Russell Wilson was kicked to the curb by NC State and was drafted out of Wisc., sane State fans will admit that he may not have gone as high as he did in the draft had he not been at Wiscy. TOB did him a favor, while getting himself fired.

also they left out the part that Glennon was 9 for 25 for 90 yds and 2 INT's but heck when you are delusional why let facts stand in your way.

Congrats on having some QB's in the NFL - has nothing to do with your current athletic program but it makes you feel better - go for it skippy

— Posted by sportznutV2.1

You sound awfully angry. So Gio is up for ROY. Congrats on having a player in the NFL - has nothing to do with your current athletic program, but if it makes you feel better, go for it skippy.

Also, remember last year when RW was up fro ROY as well?

— Posted by KT doesnt want to meet you

Russell Wilson was kicked to the curb by NC State and was drafted out of Wisc., sane State fans will admit that he may not have gone as high as he did in the draft had he not been at Wiscy. TOB did him a favor, while getting himself fired.

also they left out the part that Glennon was 9 for 25 for 90 yds and 2 INT's but heck when you are delusional why let facts stand in your way.

Congrats on having some QB's in the NFL - has nothing to do with your current athletic program but it makes you feel better - go for it skippy

— Posted by sportznutV2.1

You sound awfully angry. So Gio is up for ROY. Congrats on having a player in the NFL - has nothing to do with your current athletic program, but if it makes you feel better, go for it skippy.

Also, remember last year when RW was up fro ROY as well?

— Posted by KT doesnt want to meet you

Russell Wilson was kicked to the curb by NC State and was drafted out of Wisc., sane State fans will admit that he may not have gone as high as he did in the draft had he not been at Wiscy. TOB did him a favor, while getting himself fired.

— Posted by sportznutV2.1

He probably wouldn&#039;t have gone as high. That doesn&#039;t change the fact that he is a graduate of NC State, unlike what 75 claims. Nice attempt at deflection as usual, sportsack/hansy.

You sound awfully angry. So Gio is up for ROY. Congrats on having a player in the NFL - has nothing to do with your current athletic program, but if it makes you feel better, go for it skippy.

Also, remember last year when RW was up fro ROY as well?

— Posted by KT doesnt want to meet you

Russell Wilson was kicked to the curb by NC State and was drafted out of Wisc., sane State fans will admit that he may not have gone as high as he did in the draft had he not been at Wiscy. TOB did him a favor, while getting himself fired.

Russell Wilson was kicked to the curb by NC State and was drafted out of Wisc., sane State fans will admit that he may not have gone as high as he did in the draft had he not been at Wiscy. TOB did him a favor, while getting himself fired.

Now here we go with claiming Wilson again............this after bidding him good by saying hello to Glennon. Yea..........it's like dook claiming what's his name in Cleveland. If it makes you feel better.......go for it.Thought the thread started by saying they all GRADUATED from state? Really?

— Posted by 75Tarheel

Yes, &quot;Really&quot;....

ALL THREE hold DEGREES from North Carolina #OURState University.

look on the bright side, pansy... at least it clearly doesn&#039;t bother you in the least.

also they left out the part that Glennon was 9 for 25 for 90 yds and 2 INT's but heck when you are delusional why let facts stand in your way.

Congrats on having some QB's in the NFL - has nothing to do with your current athletic program but it makes you feel better - go for it skippy

— Posted by sportznutV2.1

Bahahaha - you mad? You sure sound mad. All of that anger must have caused you to omit the fact that Glennon threw 2 TDs while leading his team to a WIN.

Then again, I&#039;d be pretty mad if I predicted Glennon wouldn&#039;t start more than 2 games and here he is in Week 14 in the running for Offensive ROY. And to boot, your candidate for best rookie QB just threw 4 INTs in his loss to - none other than - MIKE GLENNON and the Bucs.