It's the 2nd round of a 4 hour training session. It had a very specific purpose and Omega was on cruise control exploiting a very clear hole that I have since, covered up.

Don't get me wrong: if that's what was going on at this Euromega thing, no one would say a word.

It bugs the **** out of me that people can't see the difference in your standup between the DTT thing and what you're showing here. And you looked better than this in Boston. It's GLARINGLY OBVIOUS and yet the ones who see it are exactly the wrong ones, if you get my point.

Someone doesn't have to like you to realistically assess your skills

Now darkness comes; you don't know if the whales are coming. - Royce Gracie

Sirc wins again. Oh and we are closing in on 500 posts.. Tell me again how Sirc's best stuff was in 2010 Tranquil.

Yeah Yeah Yeah, fine.

Originally Posted by Hiro Protagonist

gong sau

Originally Posted by Tranquil Suit

I'm fairly confident Matt will beat you. Yep, my money is on the BNJ.

(Big Nosed Jew)

Originally Posted by Matt Phillips

Coming from someone who has fought him full contact, I take that as a complement.

Originally Posted by Tranquil Suit

Just my rational assessment of you both and how you'd fare against each other.

Originally Posted by Hiro Protagonist

Not a problem. Obviously, I took our TD-Fist sparring about as serious as Matt took his gong sau. Not a real excuse, but it is worth mentioning that TS, while about as tall as me, outweighed me by about 25 kgs that day. Those hits hit different. No shame in not wanting to get injured.

Originally Posted by Tranquil Suit

10kgs... You're starting to sound like Sirc when he talks about DTT, he gets heavier every time.

Originally Posted by omoplatypus

Why are you wearing pink granny panties?

Originally Posted by Tranquil Suit

He was serious enough to get those specially made for this. But not serious enough to actually train for it.

Originally Posted by Hiro Protagonist

...And friendly enough to fight you so we would get the fancy TD fist, even when I would have had reason to bow out from the Throwdown entirely, because of the stomach flu I had. - Just to put this in the correct perspective.

Originally Posted by Tranquil Suit

Frankly, maybe you should've.

Notice how all I said is either fact or rational opinion. But apparently that's enough to make you go:

Originally Posted by Hiro Protagonist

See? There we go. Member posts video. Member gets harrassed. What exactly would be my, or anybody's motivation to attend any TD, ever again? Like, I am not upset, but just put this in perspective: I am not some idiot on foodstamps with no life; that journey to the TD, plus the expenses probably cost me more than some of you make per month. What would be my, or anybody's, motivation, to spend that kind of money again on something related with Bullshido, exactly, if the likely result is this kind of treatment?

Now, as I said, I stepped up against a heavier opponent, I stepped up sick; to be a good sport, essentially. The same I stepped up this year, for other reasons. But, yeah, whatever. While I am on it, tell me why I am paying, what, 20 bucks per months to support the site, when everything I really invest here ends up biting me in the ass?

Now, you will think, by Hextor, another one of Rafe's rants. No, actually, I am cool. It's not that I couldn't guess that this was coming. I am just saying, as a principle. Motivate anybody to stay, **** like that does not.

Why, exactly? Last time I checked, this was a friendly get-together, with nothing to win, and nothing to lose. Right?

But, yeah, let me put this a different way round:

Now, here comes a real rant. You know, not that, I am watching "Saber Rider" in the other window. Not that, I am half way through a text, and between pouring more coffee, and urinating, I post a brainfart.

One moment of actually well-thought, carefully measured, and very pure anger.

GO **** YOURSELF, TS.
I treated you as a friend, and you give me attitude?!

How about this, then: As long as you attend any BS events, I won't go, and if I ever come to organize a Throwdown on my own account, you are the **** banned from attending. I was fed up with your behavior at the TD, and I am now. Be weird on somebody else's time, psycho.

And in case you didn't get the message:

GO **** YOURSELF.

Originally Posted by Hiro Protagonist

Do whatever you want, child. You're dead to me.

Be the king of Bullshido all you want. Best, find a sparring partner who makes you look even better. Probably, you'll get even another tag.

No gong sau, no flame war, no tearful PMs.

Just kill yourself, ************.

Next time you **** the bed, at least turn the lights off.

Originally Posted by Hiro Protagonist

There's a wider context to it that will stay with the people involved, as far as I am concerned.

No there isn't, you bullshitter. Stop making **** up just to justify your crying.

Originally Posted by Hiro Protagonist

Suffice to say, I would prefer not to deal with TS any more. No drama, just the things as they are.

Originally Posted by Lebell

I read the little outburst of Rafe against TS, I have no idea what happened between you two guys and it isnt any of my business, but I can tell that there's some hurt ego's involved, cut that **** out. please.

After the first TD, we were FRIENDS. I must support my FRIEND, no matter what asinine statements he makes. I didn't, so I have BETRAYED him and now our FRIENDSHIP is over. lol

Originally Posted by Hiro Protagonist

...And friendly enough to fight you so we would get the fancy TD fist, even when I would have had reason to bow out from the Throwdown entirely, because of the stomach flu I had. - Just to put this in the correct perspective.

It was your idea in the first place. You weren't doing me any favors by 'granting' me the opportunity. Let me tell you something, coming there, I was hoping to fight an oponent who'd outclass me, against whom I'd have almost no chance of winning. Who'd force me to show heart if you will. The little TD Fist means little to me, cause it was achieved so easily.

Originally Posted by Tranquil Suit

Frankly, maybe you should've.

If I was SICK, I would've. Cause you know, that'd be the smart thing to do.

Originally Posted by Hiro Protagonist

You know what? Challenge accepted.

I have gotten sloppy as ****, on all levels of my training...

blablabla, I've been hearing this for the past 2 years. I'll believe it when I see it.

Originally Posted by Alex

you should quit posting as well bro you were almost as fucking awful. we should section off europe from the rest of bullshido afaic cos you guys consistently show yourselves to suck enormous ass.

You're absolutely right. **** that guy. I watched this a few weeks afterwards and decided to WORK on it.

@Matt: I've been having Jew guilt since causing that fiasco from last year, so I hope THIS fiasco levels it out for you.

you should quit posting as well bro you were almost as fucking awful. we should section off europe from the rest of bullshido afaic cos you guys consistently show yourselves to suck enormous ass.

TS looks like a dude with 4-6 months of Muaythai and minimal sparring. But he's game. Hiro's impression is completely different IMO... constantly looking for his opponents to cut him slack, constantly turning the back, trying to disengage and talk. He's the opposite of "game"

Originally Posted by Hiro

As long as you attend any BS events, I won't go, and if I ever come to organize a Throwdown on my own account, you are the **** banned from attending. I was fed up with your behavior at the TD, and I am now.

Dude, who the **** do you think you are?

A TD is something that keeps the community connected and on point. It's not some sleepover party you organize for the purpose of excluding that girl who totally never returned your hoop earings.

Last edited by Matt Phillips; 11/16/2012 7:55pm at .

Now darkness comes; you don't know if the whales are coming. - Royce Gracie