2005 Sienna CE vs 2005 Odyssey LX

I'm looking at a 2005 Sienna CE with 24K miles. The dealer is asking about $17,500 for it. It's Toyota certified. Since I've had a good experience with my 2004 Accord, I have a little Honda bias, so I want to explore the possibility of a similar Odyssey. The problem is, when I compare KBB values, a 2005 Odyssey LX with the same mileage comes out about 2K higher than the Sienna CE. Does anyone know if I can find a good comparison of these two base models minus the obvious spin I would get if I asked the respective dealers? Are there any apparent advantages of the base Honda over the Toyota? Thanks for any help.

I am at the point where Im going to hire a professional (conciere service) to negotiate the deal for me, I guess I am tired of unrealistic high prices and I hate being lied to by the sales people and managers.I am hoping to get most or all of the money I spend back by getting a better deal on the car, and make it a less stressful transaction. Im finding lots of cars in the $16,000-18000 range that should be in the 10k-15k range.Its not easy to shop for cars with 2 kiddos on your hip.We will probably go with the Authority Car Specialists-the guys featured in the tips and advice section. Any of you guys tried that route before?

You may also want to consider a no-haggle style dealership, with fixed prices on the window and no argueing over prices.

Here in the mid-atlantic I'd recommend fitzmall.com, they sell new and used cars that way. CarMax is nationwide, and I think they have a money back guarantee if you're not happy, though you may have to choose another car there.

The "no-haggle" dealership near me has a CE Sienna at about 2k over KBB retail -quite a deal : ).. Frankly I think I will save money in the end if you consider my time wasted looking at overpriced cars with pushy sales people- etc. I am willing to take the risk of hiring an concierge service to find me a nice low mileage car at the best possibe price with the least hassle. I will report back on the forum on how the process goes for us.