Oh **** yes.... Orcish Counterstance and blood rake are gonna be fun. im not looking forward to learning bilgestorm, Gates of hades and tourbillion. hopefully Quadra will have a high enough mod on it to make it more useful for higher End mobs.

I hope we get to jump in the air when we do this! I remember a kindered drk doing this back inthe day in Castle O (s) and it doing over 2k istantly killing me while farming that NM. He did it to others as wll. But yea we will jump in the air!

Wind breath meth... We have spells like leafstorm and such that do little dmg. Thunderbreath Yes... No dark breath though. Would of been cool.

Amorphic Spikes: cant recall seeing this move ever.

Barbed Crescent: Finaily we can join the formers and still there secret.

I hope we get to jump in the air when we do this! I remember a kindered drk doing this back inthe day in Castle O (s) and it doing over 2k istantly killing me while farming that NM. He did it to others as wll. But yea we will jump in the air!

That's not quadrastrike, for one. Second, that's not how spell animations work. We wrap our arms around our faces and magic beetle shadows and **** fly at the targets.

kimjongil76 wrote:

Amorphic Spikes: cant recall seeing this move ever.

You haven't done nearly enough nyzul, then.

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I'm glad there telling us straight off what the spells are rather than just simply saying there will be new blue magic.

A lot of the HNM style ones can be learnt off some Abyssea normal mobs and mostly pop NM's so shouldn't be too hard to get those if you jump on Blu straight after the update when everyone is after them in Alliances etc or join seal partys.

I have high hopes for Quadrastrike and hope its as impressive as Quadratic Continuum was/is.

Or early magian trials. I had to camp up on mt. z killing those freaks day after day after day during firesday and saw that move way more than I would have liked. Always did want it.

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Its a shame that they used Bloody Rake instead of Bloody Claw (and thus put the 5 min timer on it) ....but on the other hand this should mean it's much less likely to be nerfed.

Man, I would have loved to see that spell in the game. Hoped for it for a long time. Bloody Claw could be pretty awesome, though, so could pyric bulwark, given how good blu can get on phys damage already, as I understand it.

I haven't played since before the dynamis changes and around the level 85 cap raise... so you guys will have to post about how good or bad they are so I can at least read about em. :P

Sure do miss blu, a **** of a lot. Miss the game as it used to be even more, though. :( Pray you never get sick of FFXI as it is... the selection for potential replacements is absolutely awful. The type of game FFXI used to be - and still barely is - is on it's way to extinction. Getting replaced by free-to-plays and some really really lousy games. Honestly don't think something as awesome as FFXI was, or the old MMOs, will really come around again at this point. And that's... not even mildly related to this thread, so time to move on. XD

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After testing, Barbed Crescent is Distortion/Scission, amorphic spikes is piercing with Gravitation/compression. My tests didn't turn up a Level 2 property on Quadrastrike. Just a Liquifaction. It can only be Frag however. Need to test again on higher HP mobs so I can chain spells with 2hr. I hit Azure Lore and Amorphic Spikes did 3800 to the sea peapuk. No idea if that was 2hr or a set proc.

Wind Breath = 1/4 HP (525 damage with 2100 HP, 2100 being the only not-ugly number I could get); 26 mp, ~30 second recast (no haste/fastcast), very quick casting time. Not .5 seconds but definitely not remotely as long as heat breath/vapor spray/thunder breath. I can't give you an exact because windower and the test server don't get along, so no timestamp. Vapor Spray = 1/2 HP (1050 damage with 2100 HP, same as heat breath); 176 mp (may be a bit higher, I think I'm off), ~1:23 recast (no haste/fastcast), basically the same casting time as heat breath Thunder Breath = HP (2100 damage with 2100 HP), 193 MP, ~56 second recast (no haste/fastcast), casting time felt a little longer than heat breath/vapor spray, but w/o time stamp I won't say for sure.

Also, all of their animations are glitched atm, so I can't tell you how cool/lame they look, because they all have the same animation as (I think) whirl of rage. or smite of rage. one of the cursed weapon ws/spells

Yes it would. Just would require getting the Corbenic Sword off Tristitia.

Honestly though there are so many better swords available that there's no reason to ever bother with the Corbenic Sword. Sure, it was a decent non-Magian sword back in the mid 80's, but given that there's been two level cap increases since it was implemented, plenty of swords (both Magian and not) added since then, and so on, that there's no real use having a Corbenic Sword, especially just to make one potentially (not even confirmed) skillchain every 13 weaponskills. Knights of Round is, by itself, a really underwhelming WS, certainly in comparison to something like Chant du Cygne, and to lower your overall melee damage by using such a weapon in your mainhand just for a single WS every now and then is just not a good idea by any means.

If I gave enough of a **** to lose an inventory slot for a corbenic sword, I'd make like a 30 second macro with awesome party chat and fireworks and job emotes in reference the painfully long animation from FFVII.

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#20kimjongil76,
Posted:Nov 21 2011 at 12:49 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I don't exp or hnm ws with my corbenic sword. I do keep the one charge for KoTR ready for a SC for KCnm fights and abby NM's. The sword is weak, but if you don't have an emp the SC itself is more powerful than Salvage blade + spell sc's

Quadrastrike is slightly better than goblin rush, slightly worse than QC in terms of damage outside abyssea. Inside, with just razed ruins and no gnarled horn/sanguine scythe, it blows QC out of the water. I was doing 2.5k-3k without CA/efflux using my goblin rush set against NQ mobs. With either CA or efflux it was one-shot-death.

So far I've put one point into requiescat, and outside abyssea it is already on par with the best sword WSes at 100% TP (I don't have CDC.) My favorite thing about it is that it makes darkness with QC.

Blue mage hunting grounds has a great one for bloodrake imo. Bostonieux Oubliette.

There was a 2/3 ally down there farming it when I arrived. as soon as some would leave, more would arrive. Didn't take long to get. Only 4 spells left for me. Toughest one to get looks like Tourbilion. if abyssea Khimmy's don't use it... aren't there aren't alot of commonly available options...

So! Orcish Counterstance on it's own is not very impressive. It's a cheap spell, but costs a lot of points and has a slow casting time.

The question is: Does it stack with Counterstance from /mnk? If so, a full-on counter build for BLU could become viable in abyssea, with each counter doing 70%~ more damage than a normal swing. With actual DD atma, food, etc, I can easily see counters averaging well over 300 damage.

Blue mage hunting grounds has a great one for bloodrake imo. Bostonieux Oubliette.

There was a 2/3 ally down there farming it when I arrived. as soon as some would leave, more would arrive. Didn't take long to get. Only 4 spells left for me. Toughest one to get looks like Tourbilion. if abyssea Khimmy's don't use it... aren't there aren't alot of commonly available options...

nyzul tyger khimera einherjar beseiged ... thats about it I think.

Edited, Dec 18th 2011 7:26pm by Xilk

If you're First Lieutenant you can do the Illursi Atoll assault Bellaphron's Bliss and fight Khimiria 14X for it, just went in with 4 blus 95+ and it was easy 2 of use took the goblin and 2 took khimiria 14x, gob died quick, 2 people learned in, going again now...

Quadrastrike is slightly better than goblin rush, slightly worse than QC in terms of damage outside abyssea. Inside, with just razed ruins and no gnarled horn/sanguine scythe, it blows QC out of the water. I was doing 2.5k-3k without CA/efflux using my goblin rush set against NQ mobs. With either CA or efflux it was one-shot-death.

Something isn't adding up here. I just spent a good hour testing Quadrastrike with RR/GH, and it does not seem to crit at 0 TP. At all.

Efflux was better than CA, with results well into the 4000 range with efflux alone. This implies it's all about TP and not CA. Presumably a crit penalty below 100% TP. Would recommend Enchainment if one plans to skillchain with this.

But without CA or Efflux, or with CA at 0 tp, the spell wouldn't break 2000, whereas Quadratic Continuum was pushing out 2200~. It seems to have a huge critrate penalty at 0% tp, and even 75%~ critrate from RR/GH was not enough to overcome this.

What atma were you using other than RR? Testing it on Tiny Mandies seemed to yield 2 dmg per 1 point of str. With capped attack that'd mean 1 damage per str at 1:1, so... does that mean it has a 100% STR mod? If so, STR atma would make it blow QC away, even sans-crits.