Certainly not you wingnuts. Nobody is advocating socialism in this country (except actual socialists, who meet in a phone booth somewhere…all three of them), but you folks are simply too stupid to understand that.

Yep.
For example, here is a way to do that whole ad-hominen and why the L/L/P goes that way:

Sample ad-hom.” The first thing that comes up when I google holgarm is “Fatal error” (well, for Hologarma, but close enough.)

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Discussions is about ideas. And can be very intense. But the issues are attacked, not individuals.

However, Libbies/Lefties/Proggies don’t have anything to do but say “Your momma wears army boots!”, “You stink!”, etc.

Right away you know you have to pity them…they haven’t grown up yet. Poor babies.

They can’t argue from any basis of fact. They niggle over minor details, such as Socialism vs Fascism, without regards to how both are in opposition to Capitalism and typical American values. Without providing examples of how socialism or fascism has worked better.

They fail to point out the continuum of socialism, as Europeans might claim it. How even communism has made life better anywhere.

They are stuck in the idea of a country that is Utopian. Without regard to how the citizenry behaves in a utopia, since they think of “eutopia” instead of “utopia” because, well, they heard about it, but never really investigated it.

They want a dystopia,(ex ‘1984’ by Orwell) in which they would be Big Brother. However, they wouldn’t even have the stones to be Winston Smith and would more likely be an O’Brien, if anything at all.

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Lefties would not be good citizens for any utopia, since they are grasshoppers, not ants. And probably would be first “against the wall” as examples to the other grasshoppers of what happens when you don’t pull your “Fair” share.

The left uses a rather expansive definition of “racist” to cover just about anything it disagrees with. Now take some of your own medicine with “socialist.” (And why should you care whether the term is used narrowly and precisely, anyway? You have anything at stake in the use of that term?)

good points … I often hear this from “liberals”, that say there is no “socialism” without state ownership, because of course they don’t like their socialization of other people’s bad behavior to be identified as such.

But these “liberals” have to keep changing our language to disguise their convictions. “Classical liberalism” is now little understood, because “progressives” stole the term “liberal” for themselves. The brave enforcers of Newspeak are now cruising the blogs apparently. 🙂

Also, Obama did say he liked his Marxist prof’s best, and he was a member of the Socialist New Party in Chicago, despite their attempts to scrub those records.

One of the great demonstrations of the 20th Century comes in the form of the Collective’s MASSIVE ability to lie.

They actually refined it, and applied scientific principles to it, in their effort to make truth and falsehood completely malleable.

This was, of course, one of the several brilliant insights of Orwell.

In the U.S., Collectivists staunchly denied that a Collective existed, much less that they or others accused were members. They still do (see the boob’s comments here respecting a phone booth). Yet they were also and contemporaneously self-identifying…if you just listened to what they were saying. You see this in the OWS “movement”.

The Collective has learned to shape-shift, and smear ideas across older definitional boundaries, as well. They really don’t much care if a take-over of private enterprise is done outright, or merely effectively. They understand it largely results in the same ends they seek, and the precise name applied is essentially irrelevant.

True, Obama is a Fascist. Central planner. You own but don’t control. Socialists are similar, but you don’t own.

However, it doesn’t help when whiny idiots comment and just complain and mock rather than educate.

The fraud of the Left is that they feel that when they go all Alinsky #5 that somehow their opponents don’t see through it. And that’s because the Left fails even at following 13 simple tactics.
We see failure after failure, especially in tactics 2,3,7 and especially 12.

As a result, tactic #1 fails, because the non-Left no longer views the Left as anything but a bunch of dangerous clowns.

hmm, Sloan Construction, Highway Builders, Sumter Utility are all collectives? I would have never known. heck, I even thought they were private businesses, not socialist collective loser groups. try again, punk. we kick your kinds ass in here.

I salute a fellow “Bitter Clingerer”!
I think the next snarky ad hominem comment from the Troll will be something to the effect that you need to carry a firearm to compensate for an obvious lack of testosterone. [sarcasm off]

The road and highway argument doesnt compare. See, roads are used by all, available to all and paid by all who use them (vehicle tax, gas tax).

Wealth redistribution… Those are obamas own words. Thats about giving more simply becahse you have more for the government to declare as fair game. In turn, it is what govt does with this money which causes the argument. The programs they fund are not available to everyone like roads are, but only to special interest groups the democrats want to keep happy, and do so using tax dollars.

Its a good thing rkads and highways (your example) are treated the same way the rest of obamas policies are, otherwise your gas tax at the pump would be based on the value of your car and your ability to use the road would also be curtailed because you already have too much, ie, why should you be allowed to drive 500 miles to your vacation, even if it is a public road? Afterall, there are poor out there who dont own a car and with obamas thinking, you should pay for their plane ticket.

You might not see it as ‘socialism’, but wealth redistribution is what it is and no matter what name you use, its not right.

DocWahala, wishes liberals would come up with a better counter than roads and highways. It just goes to show they cant even understand ‘public service’ versus public servitude

You’re right… So obvious he wholly believes that email he received, the one which starts off with “liberals are proud to stand out” and ends with “remember, the more dislikes, the better your chances at winning a free copy of Audacity of Hope”

DocWahala is happy democrats run rampant on blogs – their mindless rants adds fire to the conservative movement.