When Marte was on the DL with that infected ingrown hair from 2010 (I think), I was walking from a parking lot on Carnegie down to the game. He was at that BP on the corner of 9th & Carnegie putting gas in his SUV.

I appreciated that episode of foreshadowing.

A God Damn dead man would understand that if a minor league bus in any city took a real sharp right turn, a Zack McCalister would likely fall out. - Lead Pipe

Honestly, I don't give a rat's ass what his name is...what his age...just get fuckers out (as long as he's an Indian). Is this actually an issue that could void his contract? Or do you even WANT to void it? Not the pub I'm sure the Tribe brass wants to deal with this close to Spring Training (PISS) I love Cleveland sports

shamwow imitator wrote:Honestly, I don't give a rat's ass what his name is...what his age...just get fuckers out (as long as he's an Indian). Is this actually an issue that could void his contract? Or do you even WANT to void it? Not the pub I'm sure the Tribe brass wants to deal with this close to Spring Training (PISS) I love Cleveland sports

I hope they void it. I didn't think he was worth it when the re-upped him and believe they could better spend that money elsewhere. Like on a 1B.

If the back-end of our rotation weren't so thin, this could be a blessing in disguise because we could get out from under that contract and spend that money on a real upgrade. But unfortunately, we probably do have to keep him this season thanks to Carrasco's injury, the lack of depth, our limited trade chips, and the lateness of the offseason. If this news had come out two months ago, it could have been different.

Forget voiding the contract...if he's under arrest in the DR, he's got bigger problems:1) get out of jail2) re-establish legal identity3) get a valid DR passport4) get a valid work visa to come back to the US under the new name/identity

#4 won't be easy

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Adverb Harry wrote:If the back-end of our rotation weren't so thin, this could be a blessing in disguise because we could get out from under that contract and spend that money on a real upgrade. But unfortunately, we probably do have to keep him this season thanks to Carrasco's injury, the lack of depth, our limited trade chips, and the lateness of the offseason. If this news had come out two months ago, it could have been different.

^^^^That really sucks. On another note, throw a murder in there and we got a premise for some CSI:Miami type shit.

gotribe31 wrote:Forget voiding the contract...if he's under arrest in the DR, he's got bigger problems:1) get out of jail2) re-establish legal identity3) get a valid DR passport4) get a valid work visa to come back to the US under the new name/identity

#4 won't be easy

Yeah, he's not going to be in the US for spring training, that's for sure. I doubt if by the start of the season.

Adverb Harry wrote:If the back-end of our rotation weren't so thin, this could be a blessing in disguise because we could get out from under that contract and spend that money on a real upgrade. But unfortunately, we probably do have to keep him this season thanks to Carrasco's injury, the lack of depth, our limited trade chips, and the lateness of the offseason. If this news had come out two months ago, it could have been different.

Even so, given how inconsistent ¿Fausto? has been the past few years, there's a good chance that, even with the lack of depth, Pena/Kotchman/Lee+Huff/Gomez/whoever > ¿Fausto? + LaPorta. A biggish upgrade at first, with possibly only a smallish downgrade at starting pitcher.

The big thing to figure out is how long it would take for him to be ready. If he's not going to be able to even work out until April-May, then let him go and look elsewhere.

MIAMI -- Reliever Juan Carlos Oviedo avoided arbitration with the Miami Marlins by agreeing to a $6 million, one-year contract, but his visa status remains uncertain because he played under the assumed name of Leo Nunez until late last season.

Oviedo is working toward obtaining a visa in time to rejoin the Marlins, although it's not clear if he will be with the team by Opening Day. Miami hosts St. Louis on April 4.

MIAMI -- Reliever Juan Carlos Oviedo avoided arbitration with the Miami Marlins by agreeing to a $6 million, one-year contract, but his visa status remains uncertain because he played under the assumed name of Leo Nunez until late last season.

Oviedo is working toward obtaining a visa in time to rejoin the Marlins, although it's not clear if he will be with the team by Opening Day. Miami hosts St. Louis on April 4.

Honestly, it all depends on what he's convicted of in the DR and what he ends up being charged with, if anything, in the states. If we wanted, we could go after him for violation of 18 USC 1546(a), which concerns using false documents to apply for admission into the US and possibly 8 USC 1324a(b), which prohibits using a false doc for employment verification. Now, neither of these are "sexy" charges that get AUSA's all hot and bothered, and they're usually used for large scale document forgers and smugglers. But rest assured, if he was impersonating Juan Martinez or another random Dominican guy and he were caught, there's zero chance he'd ever be granted a visa to come back to the US.

You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves-----Abe Lincoln

Let me tell you, if any of you douchebag empty headed stuffed suit nanny politicians tries to fuck with my bacon, I’m going after you like a crazed chimpanzee on bath salts. -----Lars

If we suspend him that frees up $7 mil for a new starter. Millwood anyone? Harden would be nice but he can't stay healthy. Webb? Francis? Those guys want multiple years. Oswalt? No thanks. $15 mil. for a bad back isn't something we need.

Maybe we can swing a trade for Westbrook. He'd fit the sinkerball mold and supposedly the Cards would be willing to deal him.

We're gonna get somebody, no way they start the season with 7 starters with MLB experience. Huff at your #6 is scary.

If you are gonna have an ERA in the fives, and throw 1200 pitches every 6 innings, thus putting your infielders to sleep, how the hell is ANY contract team friendly.

As a rule, I'm all for letting guys go that pretty much stink.

Been shittin' in one hand, hopin' in the other for years with this guy now.

Let some other team take him, and he'll have one game a month where their fans will go "SEE, WHAT A PICK-UP, HE'S FINDING IT...." and several Tribe fans will go "WHAT IDIOTS FOR LETTING HIM GO, I KNEW HE'D RECAPTURE IT...."

And then at the end of the year we all can reflect on those half dozen good starts surrounded by suck.

ERA over the last 4 years averages out to 5.2 Got about 15 less wins than losses over that same period, and it wasn't due to run support. If the ability to pitch a ton of innings is just about your only positive, you probably suck. Turns out he's 31, not going to be any better than he was last year, cut your losses and get rid of him.

I suppose the question becomes--assuming his contract could be voidable--is how to evaluate his value going forward. The Indians were wise to pick up the option on 28-year old Fausto, who had shown flashes of effectiveness and still had at least marginal upside. I don't think the same can be said for 31-year old Roberto Hernandez Heredia. I'd say "Fausto's" recent performances is what would be expected going forward--and don't forget, also, that he hasn't shown a lot of mental fortitude in pressure situations. I rather doubt he'll handle this well. Bottom line, I'd say his production is nothing that couldn't be equalled or even surpassed by Huff/Gomez/etc. at a much cheaper rate, as well. The only thing this development truly impacts is our depth, which does take a hit.

Adverb Harry hit exactly what I was thinking on the head. The guy's a ticking time bomb mentally who hasn't handled pressure since 2007. What does this distraction do for his mindset? It may not be an issue because we might not have him all season.

A God Damn dead man would understand that if a minor league bus in any city took a real sharp right turn, a Zack McCalister would likely fall out. - Lead Pipe