Looks really nice. I like the styling but I wonder how upgradeable/repairable it is. This was the main reason I fell in love with ThinkPads many years ago. With a little luck, it's not going to have soldered RAM etc. Quite expensive for what you get too.

Looks really nice. I like the styling but I wonder how upgradeable/repairable it is. This was the main reason I fell in love with ThinkPads many years ago. With a little luck, it's not going to have soldered RAM etc. Quite expensive for what you get too.

Its not at all upgradeable or repairable. RAM and SSD are soldered to the Motherboard and ist chassis is most likely glued together, just like with the other Surface devices.

Looks really nice. I like the styling but I wonder how upgradeable/repairable it is. This was the main reason I fell in love with ThinkPads many years ago. With a little luck, it's not going to have soldered RAM etc. Quite expensive for what you get too.

Its not at all upgradeable or repairable. RAM and SSD are soldered to the Motherboard and ist chassis is most likely glued together, just like with the other Surface devices.

Do you have any links to this info? I couldn't find any reviews that covered anything further than the marketing material in any detail.

It seems odd too that they offer the wider choice of colors only on the cheaper model. I quite like the Cobalt Blue.

Wow, I hope that isn't the case. An integrated SSD in such an expensive device would be a tragedy!

It may not be exactly "integrated" on the even more expensive* SP4 but it's certainly not designed to be user-upgradable. Maybe in a year or two I'll take the risk of trying to open mine up to upgrade when it won't be as much of a loss if I break it.

So what seems confirm is T470 base with 7row keyboard.
Seems in line with what some people in the confidence shared (not much - but something like it would be based on a current design).

Unclear about the screen. If it is the same 16:9 as a plain T470, i wont buy it.
I hope they were able to fill the screen bezel with a custom screen with as thin as possible bezel. Then i might consider it.

cant we fit a 16:10 14" (or 14.1") in the bezel? http://www.displaywars.com/14-inch-16x9 ... inch-16x10 that would be more interesting, it is almost the same width, but u have more vertical space(and less wasted bezel around).
13.3" 16:10 would make a T470 machine look sily: even more bezel than a 16:9.
Edit: seems to work! X1C height is 8.55", and they can fit a 6.86" screen inside. That is, they can do it with a 1.69" gap between screen and real estate.
For the T470 with a 14.1" 16:10, we would have: height 9.15" for a 7.47" height screen, that leaves 1.68" gap. So seems doable (if u really need 1.69" and not 1.68", just do a 14" and not a 14.1"). Width is not changed, so it is a non issue.
Then I would be thrilled.
that would explain many things: -magnesium T470 showing up. -why T470 has TB and not T470p, which else didnt seem to make sense. -no redesign for T470, because they need wasted bezel on 16:9 version to accomodate for a 16:10 screen.

I think the competition already (almost) made what we we are looking for!
14.1" IPS 1080p screen, 7th gen Intel processors, the latest graphics, a new USB Type-C port, and up to 32 GB of fast DDR4 RAM.
Available with Linux ex-factory, NO MORE Winblows!