It's like alcohol related traffic accidents. If a sober driver is speeding at 110mph in the wrong direction on the freeway and plows head on into a minivan driving 55 in the correct lane, whose driver happened to have a glass of wine with dinner, it's an alcohol related crash.

namegoeshere:It's like alcohol related traffic accidents. If a sober driver is speeding at 110mph in the wrong direction on the freeway and plows head on into a minivan driving 55 in the correct lane, whose driver happened to have a glass of wine with dinner, it's an alcohol related crash.

Russ1642:FirstNationalBastard: Ah, they're using anti-smoker logic, like how if a guy is hit by a bus while smoking a cigarette, it's automatically a "smoking-related death".

Or if you're going ten kph over the speed limit and some jackoff slams into you it's a speed-related accident.

We had an incident last week with a drunk guy making a turn in his mini van and someone on a motorcycle. People were ready to hang the drunk, and wanted to have the bar near the intersection shut down and owners and bartenders arrested for letting this guy kill the biker.

Turns out he was not at that bar, he was turning down that street to go home. And the guy on the bike was doing between 80-90mph. Traffic cops say sober or not, it was not the drunk's fault. (Not that it makes drunk driving ok, but blame needs to be placed where it belongs)

Wait, am I reading this correctly? There's a Fire Marshall, and he's paid with tax money? How's an Arizona wing-nut supposed to react? On one hand you have anti-American peaceniks who do marijuana, but then there's the tyrannical G-man going around regulatin' whether or not a man can burn down his own doomsday compound.

brewthunda:Mike Chewbacca: brewthunda: "After an unwatched stove sparks a fire that burns down a house, naturally the fire marshal blames the legal medical marijuana growing in another part of the house "

Where does it say that the fire marshal is blaming the growing operation?

While officials believe the latter fire was related to unwatched cooking in the kitchen, they noted that equipment in the house for growing marijuana may not have met local codes.

This article says that the officials are blaming the stove, not the grow op.

But I guess we shouldn't let that little fact get in the way of our outrage.

Why is this fire even mentioned at all in the article? Because the fire department's concern over grow ops is based on two recent incidents, one of which had nothing to do with the grow op. They're basically grasping at straws.

Russ1642:brewthunda: Mike Chewbacca: brewthunda: "After an unwatched stove sparks a fire that burns down a house, naturally the fire marshal blames the legal medical marijuana growing in another part of the house "

Where does it say that the fire marshal is blaming the growing operation?

While officials believe the latter fire was related to unwatched cooking in the kitchen, they noted that equipment in the house for growing marijuana may not have met local codes.

This article says that the officials are blaming the stove, not the grow op.

But I guess we shouldn't let that little fact get in the way of our outrage.

Why is this fire even mentioned at all in the article? Because the fire department's concern over grow ops is based on two recent incidents, one of which had nothing to do with the grow op. They're basically grasping at straws.

Because lots of fires have happened when people screw with wiring to grow their 85 plants. They raised it as a caution.

Put down the bong and read the article. Or is the glaucoma extra bad today?

Representative of the unwashed masses:Russ1642: brewthunda: Mike Chewbacca: brewthunda: "After an unwatched stove sparks a fire that burns down a house, naturally the fire marshal blames the legal medical marijuana growing in another part of the house "

Where does it say that the fire marshal is blaming the growing operation?

While officials believe the latter fire was related to unwatched cooking in the kitchen, they noted that equipment in the house for growing marijuana may not have met local codes.

This article says that the officials are blaming the stove, not the grow op.

But I guess we shouldn't let that little fact get in the way of our outrage.

Why is this fire even mentioned at all in the article? Because the fire department's concern over grow ops is based on two recent incidents, one of which had nothing to do with the grow op. They're basically grasping at straws.

Because lots of fires have happened when people screw with wiring to grow their 85 plants. They raised it as a caution.

Put down the bong and read the article. Or is the glaucoma extra bad today?

"The department's concern comes in the wake of two recent fires" one of which wasn't caused by growing weed. I have no problem with them saying, "Hey now, be careful not to mess with your wiring or you could start a serious fire." But what they said is, "There have been two fires lately in houses where people were growing pot. You should all be careful so this doesn't happen to you." And then they casually left out the fact that one of the fires had NOTHING to do with the pot.

Mike Chewbacca:Representative of the unwashed masses: Russ1642: brewthunda: Mike Chewbacca: brewthunda: "After an unwatched stove sparks a fire that burns down a house, naturally the fire marshal blames the legal medical marijuana growing in another part of the house "

Where does it say that the fire marshal is blaming the growing operation?

While officials believe the latter fire was related to unwatched cooking in the kitchen, they noted that equipment in the house for growing marijuana may not have met local codes.

This article says that the officials are blaming the stove, not the grow op.

But I guess we shouldn't let that little fact get in the way of our outrage.

Why is this fire even mentioned at all in the article? Because the fire department's concern over grow ops is based on two recent incidents, one of which had nothing to do with the grow op. They're basically grasping at straws.

Because lots of fires have happened when people screw with wiring to grow their 85 plants. They raised it as a caution.

Put down the bong and read the article. Or is the glaucoma extra bad today?

"The department's concern comes in the wake of two recent fires" one of which wasn't caused by growing weed. I have no problem with them saying, "Hey now, be careful not to mess with your wiring or you could start a serious fire." But what they said is, "There have been two fires lately in houses where people were growing pot. You should all be careful so this doesn't happen to you." And then they casually left out the fact that one of the fires had NOTHING to do with the pot.

/not a smoker

Maybe they updated the article. The article currently states that the fire was not caused by the grow op.

Combustion:starlost: the stove was unattended because its a stoners house.

Potheads do NOT forget food. I've heard...

It happens, you throw a pizza in, fall asleep, wake up to the smoke alarm and a wasted pizza... Ive stopped using non-timed appliances when partaking, then the worst case is a cold cooked pizza on the pizzazz in the morning.

I've noticed on the order of 3-4 articles this week that have been flagrantly made up on the spot. Has there been some sort of crowdsourcing initiaive I've missed? Reporters worried about wiretaps? What gives?

Sim Tree:I've noticed on the order of 3-4 articles this week that have been flagrantly made up on the spot. Has there been some sort of crowdsourcing initiaive I've missed? Reporters worried about wiretaps? What gives?