Much like the last minute cancellation that caused the planned last show at Northsix to never happen, the planned first show (Patti Smith) at the new Music Hall of Williamsburg (where Northsix used to be) has just been postponed. As of now, Against Me! & Matt & Kim is still happening tomorrow.

Wooo Hoooo. I'm double booked ... for Patti AND Daniel Johnston, so this is music to my ears (or, well, no music to my ears?). Anyway, sorry to others who were inconvenienced but I hope she reschedules there soon. DJ here I come !!

went there about 7pm, and it looked liked they were nowhere near completion. There were workers scurrying around basically building the place. You could look directly into the "work-in-progress:" venue as the construction workers banged and lifted, etc. There was a truck outside with TONS of drywall on it. This wasn't "Last minute construction" as the website stated, this was major continuation of the basic building of the venue. And they announce the postponment this evening? Absolutely retarted.

Good start guys. And how long did you know that you weren't ready to open up tonight? Had to be a while.

IF they indeed have a show tomoor night, prepare to stand in a non-finished venue.

The embarrasing thing here is how much hooplah the Bowery Presents put out for this opening.

They took a perfectly good indy venue, made a great big giant stink in renaming it and redesigning it, booked someone who plays half a dozen shows in the area a year anyway, and then can't even get the venue open on opening night.

"Blame the contractor for agreeing to be finished by now and not coming through. Or blame the construction workers for fucking up. Don't blame Bowery Presents."

The above post sounds like someone from Bowery Presents trying to defend themselves. It certainly comes off as a post from someone on the inside who is aware of the cause of the delays.

Pretty lame to blame the workers, considering they are under your control and employment. You should have hired better workers or more honest contractors if this is indeed the cause of the delay.

Why not keep going and blame the manufactures of the dry wall and the wood and the hammers for not being good enough qualty to hammer the nails in and what about the people who paved the streets that the trucks have to drive on to get the supplies to the construction site? Better blame them too.

Gimmee a break. The Bowery Presents is the one solely resposible for this absurdity, and it exploded in their face after they made such a big deal about redoing a perfectly acceptable local club.

If you advertise well in advance a big opening show at your new club, you do everything in your pwer to get it open in time. Otherwise you just look like jackasses.

If as you say, the contractors did not come through and the workers fucked up, then you are to blame for that. Why. because you hired unprofessional contractors and workers in a city full of professional ones. What does that say about you then? It means that you are unprofessional and cheap.

Bodes really well fo the new venue. can't wait.

Now I have to wonder if a light will fall on my head when I'm standing there watching a show because the workers didn't attach it correctly.

Bowery Presents are the face of the club. They are the name on the marquee, And they are in showbusiness which means that they need to look good to the public.

Which they don't, certainly if they are blaming the workers and contractors that nobody knows or cares about.

When you announce a concert months and months in advance and then wait to cancel it at 5pm the night of the show ensuring that most of the ticketholders don't find out until they show up at the construction site to see a half finished venue while workers frantically scurry around you look pretty stupid.

I heard that the Bowery is going to take over Madison Square Garden, rename it THE MUSIC HALL OF MIDTOWN, redo the inside of the arena so that it looks like a 20,000 seat Bowery Ballroom and then blame the unions for not getting the work done in time for opening night.

Bowery Presents are good people. (And no, I'm not from Bowery presents but I've worked with them before.) If it weren't for them, and the shows they've promoted over the past decade or so, your indie-rock-blog-reading-ass would probably still be listening to Fatboy Slim rather than real bands.

And while I love the idea that anyone on this list has some deep abiding connection to the contracting business, or the fate of the common construction worker, I'm sure 80% of you sit in front of a computer all day, doing some lame ass job in advertising that you couldn't even explain to a construction worker if given five hours. (Not because they're stupid. But because your job is probably bullshit.)

Point being: please. shut. up. And do something more useful with your free time than commenting on an internet message board -- or blog, or whatever you call this -- about a group of really great people regularly putting on really great shows and otherwise supporting your showgoing "lifestyle."

Hey its Peyton Manning....
Couldn't help but commenting as I saw someone post about Indianapolis.
The only real tough thing about Patti rescheduling for thursday is that its opening night of NFL season and I won't be able to make it. I was ready to rage tonight. And you folks just grumped about Patti Smith anyway so doubt any of you were even going/had to change plans. This place is going to be awesome.

Hey Jo Jo Dancer. I'm sure Bowery Presents are good people. They have changed the live music landscape of NYC however a fuckup is a fuckup. They are the ones who made such a big deal about their new venue. It must have been obvious some time ago it would not be ready in time. They could have just postponed shows until they new they were ready to open.

Against Me! & Matt & Kim. What a mismatched bill. Matt & Kim have to be one of the lamest bands I've ever seen. Against Me! sound pretty cool though!

hey, you guys are funny. i love reading comments from know-it-alls who actually have no clue. blame bowery all you want. blame whoever you want for that matter. i was in the venue today and all you people making negative comments will be eating your words when you eventually see a show there. they may be a day late opening the venue but a major renovation was done and us music fans in new york are in for a real treat. the place i saw today will no doubt be the best place to see music in this fine state of ours.

you just wait, that place is going to blow away north 6. it may take some time, but hey, good things come to those who wait - right? well, i hope so, and you cynical asses can wish for the best while the rest of us see cool shows at what should be a rad new venue. here's to hoping.

northsix was shitty. the pillars blocked the views of the stage and the downstairs was dirty with a nasty aquarium. I saw some great shows there but I don't miss it. the bowery presents' plans for the space sound amazing - no sight obsruction, high ceilings, etc., but this was definitely a m-a-j-o-r fuckup on their part. good intentions or not, they are to blame. I'm still looking forward to seeing shows at the new space, though.

while i agree that bowery presents should have been more forthcoming with their delayed opening long ago when they recognized they might not be ready, everyone needs to step back and cool off for a second.

do any of you have experience with how difficult it might be to orchestrate a construction project of this size? there are so many parties involved that all probably had some role in the delays, including the city of new york. not to mention they are trying to open after labor day, right after many people are going on vacation during august. it's a long process, the DOB can be a difficult system to get through, there may have been unanticipated problems with the building itself that needed to be addressed.

poor planning by bowery presents, perhaps. they bit off more than they could chew, perhaps. promises made by contractor who couldn't keep them but wanted the job, perhaps. difficulties and delays with permitting and inspections, perhaps. who knows what happened? until explanations come from people who actually know, it really doesn't matter.

it sucks for people who have bought tickets to shows that are going to be canceled, and those people are right to be annoyed and upset by it. but shit happens sometimes, so just deal with it, but bitching about it doesn't help anyone or the situation.

"As someone from Indiana, I can assure you that "Indy" is certainly the accepted abbreviation and term for Indianapolis (IND might be the airport code, but no one gives a shit about that)."

According to the US Postal Service, IND is indeed the official abbreviation for Indianapolis.

Local abbreviations are fine for locals, but as someone who is not from Indiana, I choose to go with the official abbreviation. Because people who don't live there don't give a shit about the local abbreviations.

Most of us from elsewhere care a lot more about airport codes and mail codes, etc. than about the cutesy terms tha locals give themselves that only locals or people that know them know.

"construction delays happen and rarely do bars, restaurants or even office buildings open on or before their PROJECTED completion date"

Yeah, but most of those office buildings, bars and/or restaurants don't take victory dances in the press months before opening night. So when they open late, no one notices, or cares.

Those other places also don't sell tickets well in advance, sell out and then let the sold out crowd know of the delay essentially so late on the opening night that they are in transit to the venue and show up and see the venue and the Bowery Presents standing there with their pants down.

"According to the US Postal Service, IND is indeed the official abbreviation for Indianapolis.

Local abbreviations are fine for locals, but as someone who is not from Indiana, I choose to go with the official abbreviation. Because people who don't live there don't give a shit about the local abbreviations.

Most of us from elsewhere care a lot more about airport codes and mail codes, etc. than about the cutesy terms tha locals give themselves that only locals or people that know them know.

Thanks for sharing though."

When have you ever used a mail code? And by the way, you are a jackass.

I had a ticket and understand that things get cancelled for all sorts of energency or non-emergencey logistical reasons. And if I had found out about this in a reasonable enough amount of time to have avoided showing up there and seeing the club half finished, I wouldn't have been upset. However, walking up to the venue last night really pissed me off to see the workers flat out IN THE MIDDLE of construction with the entire facade of the venue open for me to look into the no way nearly completed construction site.

I had to basically walk over supplies and try to not knock into workers who were blocking the sidewalk as they frantically scurried about. There was no sign indicating anything, there was no one from the Bowery Presents explaining anything voluntarily to anyone, and I had to go up to the bouncer at the door and ASK what the hell was going on in order to find out when the show was rescheduled for.

To say that this is an insult to the customer is an understatement.

The Bowery probably figured that it's sold out anyway so who gives a crap about informing or being considerate to the ticket holders.

If I hung around any longer I'm sure I would have been hit accidently by a plank of wood.

The Bowery Presents is starting to act like a giant corporation... Gobble up all the small businesses, slam your name on them, spend all your money on advertising and promotion, but in the end don't really give a shit about your paying customer.

what really sucked is that they obviously must have known it wasn't ready earlier in the day (judging by the construction scene which was accurately described by Anonymous 11:09.) We at least traveled only from the other end of Brooklyn but still, it was majorly annoying. Even more annoying is that Ticketmaster sent an email at 10:45 p.m. Duh. If they'd sent the email during the day it would have saved us the trip.

Most annoying is that we can't make the rescheduled date, the one day in ages that we have another obligation.

these are the same twats that spent 10 days posting about how jellynyc and vice were the most vile, digusting assholes ever - just becuase they were too stupid to get to the park in time to get inside.

"How can anyone possibly take the time to get so bent out of shape over a venue's delayed opening?"

Because it takes about two seconds to post your frustration about it (not much time), but it took hours (a lot of time) to travel down to the show for no reason when it could have been avoided by a more considerate concert promoter.

If the promoter can DIRECTLY waste everyones time last night, then why can't we take but a moment to ANONYMOUSLY express our frustration?

North Six was a great place, but always HORRIBLY managed. They're picking up right where they left off. I walked by 2 days ago and it looked weeks away from completion. Opening tonight would be a miracle.

this is ridiculous; i was an against me! groupie / gainesvillian (basically the same thing) during the reinventing axl rose period, and the venues they played were pretty much warehouses and cement bunkers. what's the problem with seeing them play a half done venue when they used to play on street corners? who needs wembley stadium when youre an anarcho rock and roller? they just need to cut ten-twelve bucks off the tickets for tonights show.

yeah its gonna be awesome to spend $10 for an watered down drink and be body searched by some thug on the way into some dandified hall...and "If it weren't for them, and the shows they've promoted over the past decade or so, your indie-rock-blog-reading-ass would probably still be listening to Fatboy Slim rather than real bands" is the stupidest thing I've heard, which doesn't surprise me coming from a dancer.

As for the 'Bowery Boys Presents" the cancelation should have been posted, at least on the metal lathe that was still exposed on the face of the structure..I went to galapagos and a woman drove from Ellenville , NY only to get stiffed.

"northsix was shitty. the pillars blocked the views of the stage and the downstairs was dirty with a nasty aquarium. I saw some great shows there but I don't miss it."

Do you think that it might have something to do with the fact that the Bowery Presents spent more on the audio system than was spent TOTAL on Northsix? Maybe it's because Northsix was run by musicians, not people who have been in the venue business for decades?

Patti was great last night and the sound was surprisingly good for a new venue. Not disappointed at all.
Thanks for the free drink Bowery Presents. Cancellation was not a total loss as it lead to discovery of Galapagos on Tues night.
Hey Patti - You still got it. I'll see you at the Beacon

okay, went to the show last night. The place basically looked like a bare bones warehouse. Nothing was painted and everything had that sandy, sooty dusty crap all over it... the floor, the walls etc...

Basically was just one big unfinshed room with the exposed brick and drywall and cement floor. Looked a lot like a big box store like Urban Outfitters.

They could just move a bunch of racks of womens clothes in there and it would be appropriate. I don't know what the big deal was in opening a big empty unpainted space. And this couldn't be done on time?

Give Bowery Presents some slack. They are a major corporation facing the same problems with construction issues that all major corporations do. They have to pay employees and pay salaries of two high priced people that they hired from live nation to do things like build new venues.