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He talks about tucking the chin down as a means of indicating you are part of the cult. The film Eyes Wide Shut by Kubrick was supposed to be pretty accurate as Kubrick who died right after it was made was supposed to be an insider. You see that communication shown there.

I have to say though, you mention hand gestures by the little girl to describe what she is saying as a sign that she could not be telling the truth.I believe otherwise, especially when the gesturing is appropraite and connected and the listener simply refuses to understand whatis being told thattoo in the form of an adult. She is only little and diesnthave the understanding of an formal interview setting, for her every one is stil trustworthy, every place is a playground and it is not a competitive game or a job interview, her only role there is to share what she has experienced, which is what she is atempting to do without any attempt to impress anyone or restrain herself. I think.

You seem to make a lot of hand gestures too during the reporting inthe video.

The videos recorded by the mother and her boyfriend of the childrens desription of the ritual abuse were recorded prior to the police interviews, I believe, some of them atleast.

with regard to the Anonymous document & list of names etc it has been suggested that the doc has been edited ( see file meta data ) to exclude a considerable number of names which remain in the meta data.

Two Hampstead children, a brother and sister, told their mother and her partner an incredible story about generational Satanic Ritual Abuse. Their "papa" they insisted, was the cult leader and his mother was involved too. The abuse occurred on school premises, church property and private residences and there were twenty child victims. They alleged that an extraordinary number of teachers, parents and even police were participants in this paedophile ring and the children were sold for sex to others. They say they were threatened to keep silent, by their father.

From similar cases, we know that there is in fact nothing "incredible" or "extraordinary" about these claims and there are thousands of victims, some who tell even more harrowing accounts of torture and abuse. Their abusers are largely pillar's of the community, enjoying the protection of police and Intelligence Services. Firstly, they discredit the accuser, call them unstable or unreliable, witnesses are intimidated and people end up dead. Ministers make a mockery of the very idea of SRA. There is no such thing! Therefore, how can victims expect to be believed and taken seriously?

It has been established that 'historical abuse' was on an 'industrial scale' and that was long before the advent of the internet, which has become it's primary resource for networking, for corrupting. At present, the scale must be off the scale... not unlike the picture painted by the Hampstead children. That should be enough to give credence to their allegations and conduct a thorough investigation. Bring in the Spaniels, the blood and cadaver dogs! Even if the children have retracted their claims, they could have done so out of fear and coercion. The authorities are still obliged by law, to act.

Much of what you say is correct. But surely at some time there has to be a last straw that breaks the camel's back, so to speak? That cannot invalidate the experience of previous victims, its momentum is a product of them.

The internet has unleashed torrents of new information. These are interesting times. As knowledge diffuses we will see new reactions.....solutions....(but let's hope not revolutions, those being controlled opposition).

Keep the story alive but please everyone, remove the names and addresses of all the people who are named. You are inciting violence. These are awful allegations and no one should be as good as accused in public without trial. These are real people. Real children who are being publically demonised. That is abusive to have anything that says "Child X loves sex" ! out there on the net for that child and her friends to read. Act responsibly please!!

Act responsibly. Remove names and addresses from videos and from sites. It incites vigilantes and is abuse of all the children named. You are allowing a child to be accused of liking sex! You have judged them all to be guilty as charged! A lie can build. If a child is asked questions that are based on a lie or exaggeration, they will pluck figures from the air. Next time they are asked, they may misremember what they said, but the questioner then says, "but I thouhjt you said twenty?" Then the child has to agree as they do not want their original lie uncovered. Bit by bit the new "truths" become ingrained, as eventually, with the questioner's "help"(as in anyone questioning would always re check such a detail against what they remembered the person saying) a bigger and bigger amount of detail can become a truth in the tale-tellers mind. It is like a collaborative story building. It is an organic process. If a person seems unncertain in their answers, those who are not skilled in questioning, will then helpfully give the person options. "Well did he touch you here? Or was it somewhere else?" Drip by drip the story builds up and as they repeat it, the story grows its own legs. This is why those are skilled at questioning know that even the slightest thing that you say to help reach the truth, actually can take you away from it. Children make options each time they answer. Just by answering "yes" , "no" or "don't know" they will be given many supplementary questions. It is unfortunate that when children know something seems to fully get an adult paying intense interest in what they are saying, so that the adults are seemingly holding their breath for every small utterance that you make, then you know that this is special. That you are special. It is a heady experience as most adults are never that focused on things children say. Suddenly it is lights, camera, action, and people are xalled in from other rooms to hear. If the initial thing said was a throw away line, then you have problems. If a child is caught doing bad things, this is the time that they try to shift the blame. It could well be that they know a child who has had experiences that they should never have had. If the first explanation of where they heard about these things was not accepted for whatever reason, maybe by someone who is already hyper-vigilant, then choosing someone who you know that person doesn't like could be the next stopping point. This is why the people named must be afforded anonymity