New HPs expand more reliably in a variaty of velocities and conditions.
Many rounds these days are bonded so that you don't have core jacket separation.
New gunpowder is low flash and fast burn for higher velocities in short barrels.

I use Ranger T's and HST's Ive seen where a .40S&W 180gr Gold Dots, only pennetrated a inch on a assailant and some had failed to expand.. at a distance of 20 feet, and the subject was wearing a down type jacket...

I am a big fan of the 147g Golden Saber. I'm unfortunately down to my last box of Bonded Law Enforcement rounds. It has a lighter recoil but it penetrates deep and it expands big and nasty looking. My Home Defense Glock 19 had a mag full of these rounds. The problem is I'm having a tough time finding them in the stores.

I use Ranger T's and HST's Ive seen where a .40S&W 180gr Gold Dots, only pennetrated a inch on a assailant and some had failed to expand.. at a distance of 20 feet, and the subject was wearing a down type jacket...

Where did you see that? Can you please provide some additional info on this?

New HPs expand more reliably in a variaty of velocities and conditions.
Many rounds these days are bonded so that you don't have core jacket separation.
New gunpowder is low flash and fast burn for higher velocities in short barrels.

I'm sure there are more reasons, but I think I made my point.

Agree on all of the above. I would feel well armed carrying any of them.

I apologize ahead of time that this isn't a "direct" answer: I don't own a 9mm, but in .45 I've always carried Cor Bon +P's, 200 grain. I don't know what the equivalent 9mm round is. I'm also an old-timer, so for all I know, there is "better" stuff out there now.

Speer Gold Dots all the way. I use 9mm 124gr +p in my G26, and .45acp 230 GDHP in my G21sf and G36. If there good enought for so many police departments, there good enough for me. Plus the Balisitic reviews of them on Youtube prove it to me.

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I use Ranger T's and HST's Ive seen where a .40S&W 180gr Gold Dots, only pennetrated a inch on a assailant and some had failed to expand.. at a distance of 20 feet, and the subject was wearing a down type jacket...

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Originally Posted by MikeG36

Where did you see that? Can you please provide some additional info on this?

This is why I now have a large stock of Winchester Ranger T in 3 calibers and will be loaded into my CCW guns when I run out of my current stock of Cor-Bon DPX which costs 3x more than the Winchester. Both are street proven, but I now always train with what I CCW.

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