I don't think so, Blizzard usually leaves the last boss of a tier untouched unless it's just simply unkillable. Heroic Ragnaros (actually all of Heroic Firelands) wasn't nerfed until late Tier 13, and Madness was never really nerfed (unless you count the debuff).

Im guessing you mean late T12, and even then it wasn't that late. It was nerfed like 1-2 months after firelands was released iirc.

Im guessing you mean late T12, and even then it wasn't that late. It was nerfed like 1-2 months after firelands was released iirc.

Actually I mixed up Firelands with Tier 11. Tier 11's heroic modes weren't nerfed at all, iirc. As for Firelands, the entire instance was nerfed pretty quickly, though without explanation.

Either way, it still took two months for Blizzard to nerf Heroic Ragnaros, easily regarded as the most challenging fight in all of WoW. I don't foresee them nerfing Heroic Sha of Fear before a guild even kills it, unless the fight is literally impossible, like C'thun.

I wouldn't call changing a boss to make it killable a "nerf". Ragnaros had quite a few fixes before Paragon killed it, and I believe some more shortly afterwards. I doubt they'll specifically nerf Sha at all, it will just get gradually easier with the % buff.

I wouldn't call changing a boss to make it killable a "nerf". Ragnaros had quite a few fixes before Paragon killed it, and I believe some more shortly afterwards. I doubt they'll specifically nerf Sha at all, it will just get gradually easier with the % buff.

That's sort of my point. People always see Blizzard reducing the damage or HP of a boss as nerf, but usually it's to bring the difficulty more in line with what they originally intended.

An actual nerf in my mind is what we saw happen to Firelands with the 15% reduction across the board, or the buffs that are assumedly being used in every instance this tier.

You do realise that EU realms come up like 12hrs later than US after maintenance?

Correct, Kill dates are kill dates regardless of patches/content release. But we've reached a point in time where US/EU/TW are even now. My post was stating Blood Legion has an upper advantage due to getting Lei Shi killed first making Vodka 3hrs behind them. Given raiders need to sleep, Thanksgiving holiday, I'd say its about even now.