Yup, and it's also a take back to the similar scene in the cave from volume 17. In fact many things in this episode seem to serve among other things the purpose of reminding and summarizing to the reader several plot lines that will be coming together (and perhaps be resolved) in Elfhelm.

In fact many things in this episode seem to serve among other things the purpose of reminding and summarizing to the reader several plot lines that will be coming together (and perhaps be resolved) in Elfhelm.

Hmmm, that's a good way to put it. I can imagine Miura and/or the editors taking all that into account (not only all the major events that have happened since then, but also the fact that several years have passed since the original serialization of both "sane Caska" and the Eclipse) when putting together and planning some scenes. Even though one can only guess, I think it doesn't sound far fetched at all.

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Hmmm, that's a good way to put it. I can imagine Miura and/or the editors taking all that into account (not only all the major events that have happened since then, but also the fact that several years have passed since the original serialization of both "sane Casca" and the Eclipse) when putting together and planning some scenes. Even though one can only guess, I think it doesn't sound far fetched at all.

I really don't know how Young Animal manages the relationships between mangakas and editors, but in other magazines they sometimes can make suggestions about pacing, panel distribution or overall storytelling.
But as I said, I'm not really sure how they work with Mr. Miura, so I have no real information to make a bold statement about it.

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Based on her actions in this episode, I wonder if Farnese will end up attempting to interfere with Guts and Casca's relationship when things get more complicated in Elfhelm. There's been growing tension there for a while for her (see volume 33), but it never really occurred to me that she might become a monkey in the gears until this episode, when she makes up an excuse for Guts to keep his distance from Casca.

Still, I'd like to think she'll be able to rise above her personal feelings.

Well Farnese really did surprise me with that,though Guts expression seemed a bit off,like he knew it wasnt that.
I hope someone can tell me why Puck and Evarella were worn out like that,only thing I didnt understood,maybe I should read latest episodes. Little guy being somehow connected to Elfhelm ,more new mysteries :sigh: .
I kinda wonder what will happen next,though we wont have to wait long for it.

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Based on her actions in this episode, I wonder if Farnese will end up attempting to interfere with Guts and Casca's relationship when things get more complicated in Elfhelm. There's been growing tension there for a while for her (see volume 33), but it never really occurred to me that she might become a monkey in the gears until this episode, when she makes up an excuse for Guts to keep his distance from Casca.

It all depends on Casca's fighting spirit when she "wakes" up. Somehow I cannot imagine her to be on full fighting mode given what happened to her during the eclipse.
Most importantly what Gut's did to her. Psychologically biting female's breasts is a sign of hatred or annoyance. If she remembers that experience then it'll become interesting. IF the manga follows a Shoujo (it is hakusensha afterall) manga type of mentality on female characters it is possible that Casca will get a bit ashamed of herself. On the other hand Farnese is getting more aggressive.

Guts surely will need to leave Elfhelm in order to confront Griffith so either Griffith set fire to Elfhelm (cause it is full of witches and wizards that can potentially overthrow his kingdom) forcing the party to leave or it'll be the end of the manga. This makes staying there to be there for Casca an impossible development.

Now what if *get ready for craziness* Casca *gasp* accompanied Guts back and didn't just stay behind in Elfhelm?! I know, shocking. Reminds me of the time Guts said he'd never leave her again, the promise he's kept ever since despite his desire for revenge, as this episode just reminded us.

By the way, it's always been crystal clear that Guts has no romantic interest whatsoever in Farnese. We know who he wants and it's not like it'll be decided for him. Oh and Casca and him had a child together that regularly visits them as well. Not something they could easily put behind them either. Just sayin'.

There was actually a famous article in Japan saying that berserk being a Shoujo manga.

Also, in Asian forums people have been *criticizing* the sudden change in style speculating this is due to pressure from hakusensha, which has a reputation for being the home of shoujo mangas. People were saying berserk suits being with Shueisha.

I wish I have the time to translate the articles they are really interesting.

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And? It's not a shoujo manga, famous article or not, I think everybody knows that. I can explain it to you with pictures and all if that's really needed, but then we'll need another thread.

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Also, in Asian forums people have been *criticizing* the sudden change in style speculating this is due to pressure from hakusensha, which has a reputation for being the home of shoujo mangas. People were saying berserk suits being with Shueisha.

Well the people in question are quite obviously stupid, I guess? I'm not sure what I'm even supposed to reply to this (e.g. what change in style?). Hakusensha has published and still does publish a lot of non-shoujo titles. Notably in Young Animal. Are we really having this conversation?

I know what interview you're talking about, and you're not conveying what was actually said accurately. In any case, Berserk isn't a shoujo manga. Again, why do I even have to say this? Also, stupid ideas and wacky theories about the evil, secret influence of the publishing company to "shoujo-ize" Berserk have nothing to do with cultural differences and everything to do with idiocy.

Also, in Asian forums people have been *criticizing* the sudden change in style speculating this is due to pressure from hakusensha, which has a reputation for being the home of shoujo mangas. People were saying berserk suits being with Shueisha.

Ex-Newser of the late Berserk Chronicles

On the whole shoujo thing, I have no idea what shoujo actually is. I googled it and it seems to be a word for a 7-20 year old girl in Japan. (If anybody can explain the word properly to me that would be great!)

And since Berserk has alot of blood/gore, nudity etc in it. I dont think you can describe it as shoujo...

Aazealh said:

Oh and Casca and him had a child together that regularly visits them as well. Not something they could easily put behind them either. Just sayin'.

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On the whole shoujo thing, I have no idea what shoujo actually is. I googled it and it seems to be a word for a 7-20 year old girl in Japan. (If anybody can explain the word properly to me that would be great!)

On the whole shoujo thing, I have no idea what shoujo actually is. I googled it and it seems to be a word for a 7-20 year old girl in Japan. (If anybody can explain the word properly to me that would be great!)

In Japan, manga magazines are often categorized according to the age and gender of the readers they aim at. As you said "shoujo" means "girl", so Shoujo magazines 99.9% of the time release manga destined to, well, girls.
This terms even name the magazines themselves, like "Weekly Shounen Jump", or "Shounen Sunday", or "Weekly Young Jump", or even the known by us "Young Animal".
The general categories are Shounen (Boys), Seinen (Young/Adult males), Shoujo (Girls) and Josei (Young/Adult females).

Saying Berserk is a Shoujo manga, in the end, is saying Berserk is a manga for girls.

EDIT: Oh, it seems Walter beat me to it. Well, this post may be deleted if needed.