Here’s your open thread for the night. The awful Knicks and even awfuller Nets are both in action tonight, but I’m not feeling very masochistic tonight, so I’ll pass. Talk about whatever you like, just be nice.

I hope neither team does (through trade at least). I honestly would cry if we had to trade Jesus.

Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

Well okay then…

[BTW, in the vein of the questions I’ve been asking…how do you make a rolled eyes emoticon?]

Johan Iz My Brohan

:-/

http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

Before ’09, I think he signed a 3 year, $20 MM extension.

/runs to Cot’s…

Yep, 3 yrs. $20.5MM that makes him an FA after ’11.

steve (different one)

i think he still has a year of arb left after that, as well.

think he was a super two.

DP

Nah, signed through 2011

DP

He got the best AAV in a multiyear deal of a first time arb eligible pitcher ever.

Johan Iz My Brohan

No he isn’t according to MLBTR, but I would think the Phillies resign him, no?

no.27

When did Joba and Hughes’ arbitration clock start?

Hughes only pitched like 70 innings in 2007, and 30 in 2008. They don’t count as 2 full seasons, do they?

Joba pitched around 20 innings in 2007 and then 100 in 2008. Do those seasons count as full years?

JMK aka The Overshare

The Knicks managed to play their first good possession of defense this season. The result? They somehow manage to allow the Pacers to have FOUR offensive rebounds in that one possession, and end up giving up a three-pointer. It’s actually kind of impressive.

I’m psyched for Iverson. I don’t even care about defense at this point. Here’s what I’d prefer: One guy runs back to play defense/collect the basket after the opposing team scores. Everyone else waits on the other end of the floor.

Why are you willing to pay more for the extension window? Toronto isn’t giving you anything, you’re negotiating the deal on your own. You can trade for him, then just negotiate the extension afterwards and end up in the same exact spot.

Kaffee: Colonel, when you learned of Santiago’s letter to the NIS, you had a meeting with your two senior officers, is that right?
Jessep: Yes.
Kaffee: The Executive Officer, Lt. Jonathan Kendrick, and the Company Commander, Captain Matthew Markinson.
Jessep: Yes.
Kaffee: And at present, Captain Markinson is dead, is that right?
Ross: Objection! I’d like to know just what defense counsel is implying?
Kaffee: I’m implying simply that, at present, Captain Markinson is not alive.

I was actually about to break out the A Few Good Men reference in the thread before, when Stuckey tried to tell me that I hadn’t said “I doubt that Cashman inquired about Halladay”.

Jessep: Private Santiago was a sub-standard marine. He was being transferred off the base because —
Kaffee: That’s NOT what you said. You said he was being transferred because he was in grave danger.
Jessep: Yes. That’s correct, but —
Kaffee: You said, “He was in danger”. I said, “Grave danger?” You said, “Is there another kin–
Jessep: Yes, I recall what —
Kaffee: I can have the Court Reporter read back your —
Jessep: I know what I said. I don’t need it read back to me like I’m a damn —
Kaffee: Then why the two orders? (pause) Colonel? (pause) Why did you —
Jessep: Sometimes men take matters into their own hands.
Kaffee: No sir. You made it clear just a moment ago that your men never take matters into their own hands. Your men follow orders or people die. So Santiago shouldn’t have been in any danger at all, should he have, Colonel?
(pause)
Jessep: You little bastard.

JMK aka The Overshare

Markinson’s gone, there is no Markinson.

Matt k

Kind of an odd question. Iam looking for a JPEG of the Sports Illustrated Picture from the All time team. The one that was a double fold out with all the greatest players photo shopped into the dug out together. I want to get that made into a poster but cant find it anywhere.

Subtlety would be, “In a related story, why don’t you check out my junk?” Then they’re all left speculating what exactly about said junk is interesting, so when they see the largeness of the equipment they’re impressed.

All those Ty Cobb stories are confirmed. He did stab a black guy (for interfering with him beating up a different black man), he did climb into the stands to beat up a guy who called him half-black, he did assault a disabled man.

Ty Cobb was the first Mike Tyson. Whatever crazy story you’ve heard about that can’t possibly be true, it’s true.

Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

I have a lot of respect for Ty Cobb.* Say what you will about the man, he wasn’t ashamed of himself.

*NOT serious!

Johnnyboy

I wonder what they talk about in the locker room. I’d imagine it’d start like “So…………how about them Yankees?”

There’s not one player on the Knicks that would be the third best player on a GOOD team.

http://theyankeeuniverse.com Moshe Mandel

True, although I do think they have some decent pieces for the future- I like Gallinari and Chandler, and think Douglas can be a nice bench guard.

JMK aka The Overshare

Yeah, Gallo and Chandler could be fairly good pieces in the future. I don’t see Chandler ever really being a complete player or a top-15 SG/SF in the league. Gallinari has a nice stroke and seems to have better athleticism than most Euro players. He’ll need to bulk up, be more aggressive, learn how to rebound, defend and play better off the ball. Until then, he’s just a shooter, albeit a good one.

Douglas is just a nice bench scoring guard. Unless he had Arenas-like scoring potential, he’s a liability out there.

http://theyankeeuniverse.com Moshe Mandel

Douglas also brings good defense, a rarity on this club. And I see Gallo as a real talent- worst case scenario he is a big time gunner, best case he bulks up and uses the athleticism you mentioned ala Toni Kucoc. Chandler is a tweener who will never be a top player, but he can be a rotation guy on a winner.

JMK aka The Overshare

All things considered, Douglas was a steal that late in the draft. But people seem to think he’ll be Nate with defense. Yeah, his D will be better, but he’s nowhere near a lockdown defender or tall enough to play 2 guards. He’s not as natural scorer as Nate, but he seems to be a far more intelligent player, despite not being a good ball distributor. I think he’ll eventually be a huge overall upgrade over Nate, but that’s mostly because Robinson is incredibly overrated.

http://theyankeeuniverse.com Moshe Mandel

Totally agree. He’s not close to the scorer Nate is, but is better with the ball, and smarter defensively.

It’s not really surprising that the Knicks are playing their best defense when David Lee is not in the lineup. I love the guy, but the dude is a turnstile on defense, I used to think you keep him as a role player after the ’10 free agent splurge but I’m not so sure anymore.

http://theyankeeuniverse.com Moshe Mandel

Two players that I thought would be scrubs, Hibbert and Hansbrough, combine for 28 points. The Knicks stink.

Reggie C.

Dantay Jones pwned Lee.

Knicks are a mess.

Reggie C.

HARRINGTON CAME TO PLAY !!

http://theyankeeuniverse.com Moshe Mandel

Mazal Tov. He woke up with 6 minutes to play. He wants to be the alpha dog, yet he disappears in some games and takes 30 shots in others.

Anthony

Yeah with all those three pointers he puts up, a few had to drop in finally.

JMK aka The Overshare

He also aimlessly spins around and heaves the ball toward the net or takes threes from 30 feet out with a guy in his face.

I just want to see some guys that don’t play like they just had lobotomies. I want some guys with decent basketball IQs.

Anthony

Good god Mo, could the Knicks pull this one out?

JMK aka The Overshare

No. It won’t happen. Mark it down. I have absolutely no faith in the Knicks. None. Zero. Zilch.

Anthony

The Pacer’s best player just fouled out, and I’m still not convinced the Knicks can do it.

JMK aka The Overshare

Even up three with about a minute left, this is what I expect to see:

Knicks down one with 14 seconds to go. Duhon takes it up, makes a bullet pass to…a cutting Robinson and a cutting Harrington. The two players collide, fight for the ball and scream. Harrington wrestles the ball away from Nate, stands up, is called for travelling, makes a spin move anyway, steps out of bounds and heaves a three-pointer as time expires.

Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

Now aren’t you sorry you posted that now?

JMK aka The Overshare

Not at all. I just have to revise the date. It will happen. Weird things happen. For instance, sometimes I don’t have to drug the girl to get some. That happens very rarely, but it does happen. The Knicks won. Happens pretty rarely, but it can happen.

The Knicks will lose in such a fashion. It’s not a question of if; it’s a question of when. Probably against the Nets on Saturday.

Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

This sounds remarkably similar to the recent Nets-Heat game.

Believe it or not, the Nets lost…

(Nets’ 1st win-over the Knicks. Book it.)

http://theyankeeuniverse.com Moshe Mandel

Victory!!!!! Trade Everybody!!!!!!!!!!!!

JMK aka The Overshare

Marlins-style fire sale. EVERYTHING MUST GO!

Tom Zig

a pox on you

Tom Zig

/Marlins

Anthony

NBA FINALS HERE WE COME!

JMK aka The Overshare

We’d have a fighting chance in March Madness. We might make a 6 seed.

http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

Speaking of, it pisses me off that my alma mater only won by nine points against my former school.

Oh they’ll be good. Probably not Final-Four good, but they’ll be solid. Two thirds of the front court is still relatively unproven, but I have full faith in the backcourt. Walker + Dyson will be a very good one/two guard duo. The former just has to learn how to harness his speed a bit and maybe work on his outside game. The only glaring weakness I see in them–as per usual–is three point shooting.

JMK aka The Overshare

They should stop committing felonies, too. Just my humble opinion. It could be worse—it could be SUNY Binghamton.

Steve H

Yeah, former Husky Marcus Williams had a little Bucholz in him.

Steve H

The only thing about the Knicks I give a shit about is Gallinari, as he is on my fantasy team. Can someone who watched explain to me how he did absolutely nothing???

http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

…he’s on the Knicks.

Steve H

That would explain his utter disregard for playing defense, but shouldn’t he have chucked up 15 shots like everyone else and gotten his?

Moshe Mandel

Simple. He’s an unselfish player playing with a large number of free agents to be looking out for themselves.

Ever get really wasted and play a pick-up game of HORSE? Except your buddies think it’s a regular pick-up game? You’re heaving shots, falling on your ass, doing granny shots. The other guys pick their spots, defend you and don’t take fadeaway spinning heel-kick heaves from the half-court line. Your buddies are going to win.

THAT IS THE KNICKS.

Steve H

And this post comes after a win…..

Steve H

Jamarcus Russell benched for Bruce Gradkowski.

Considering the financial implications, he’s on his way to being the worst #1 pick of all time in the NFL, if not all sports.

Mike Pop

Seems like he doesn’t even care either.

Which is kind of a funny thing.

http://theyankeeuniverse.com Moshe Mandel

I’ve been wrong on QB’s before (Rex Grossman comes to mind, I loved him coming out of school), but I’ve never been more right than I was on Russell. I hated that pick.

The Cedric Benson and Eli Manning ones intrigue me as “being right on”.

Benson looked like a bust until this year. Were you right on him being a bust, or right on him not being a bust? Because he’s been both.

And as for Eli Manning… I’d say he’s not a bust and not a success either. He’s still very in between. Eli’s certainly not a top-5 NFL QB, but he was taken like one, lauded like one, and paid like one. What does it mean to say you were “right” on him? What did you think he’d be?

Ditto Aaron Rogers. I need more clarity on what you were “right” on and “wrong” on on these ones… hell, I need more clarity on ALL of these names. These classifications are way too ambiguous.

http://theyankeeuniverse.com Moshe Mandel

I called Benson as a bust- 9 good games doesnt change my mind.

I called Rodgers as a Pro Bowl type QB. He’s 4th in QB rating despite awful protection and actually had a great year last year and had a good case for the Pro Bowl (top 3 in NFC in most important categories).

And I said that Manning would be a solid QB at best, and would be the worst of the 3 guys taken at the top of that draft.

You’re wrong on Benson, BTW. The Bears offense has been a traveshamockery for decades, and Benson’s now showing his true talent level since he’s actually running behind a quality line and has a QB that defenses respect. He’s not a worldbeater, but he’s not a bust. He’ll be good there in Cincy for a while.

Sydney McCartney

Every time I see any video baseball related, I get a really depressed feeling. I’ve got a bad case of baseball withdrawal. I managed to avoid it until a few days when I watched a clip of Pettitte pitching in Game 6 and since then I’ve been sad. :(.