whenever someone wonders why clevelanders think the 'national' media has it out for cleveland, this is why. i log in to ESPN to check out the nba page and hey look, an entire day dedicated to why lebron should go play for the knicks. for about the 10,000th time.

this shit is old. and no i don't care that a lot of the espn'ers think he'll stay or should stay. it's not the point. the f*cking season is still going on. we're not even to the playoffs yet. he's months away from free agency. he's not the only free pending free agent. but let's dedicate another day to lebron's free agency and then regurgitate all the same old tired takes. it's weak.

i'll worry about lebron going fa when the season is over and even then i won't worry about it. because lebrons life has no impact on my life. he could go play for al-quaida and i wouldn't give a sh*t.

"Meh. Calling me names on the internet is really no big deal, happens all the time." - e0y2e3

Eastside,I certainly get your point. Similar sentiments have been expressed around here ad nauseum. Also please note EIEIOs leading sentence. He had hoped to hold off on this. However, it is what it is. This stuff is becoming an issue out there in media-land. Whether we like it or not.

I do trust EIEIOs judgment on this (starting a thread) that he hopes "gets buried for a while." EIEIO does seem to have his finger on the pulse of the NBA. And he is certainly one of the most knowledgeable (and sometimes obnoxious ) NBA contributors to this forum.

I think one thing EYE wants to do is to prevent 50 such threads from popping up every time a new story comes out. Lets have one thread and be done with it.

whenever someone wonders why clevelanders think the 'national' media has it out for cleveland, this is why. i log in to ESPN to check out the nba page and hey look, an entire day dedicated to why lebron should go play for the knicks. for about the 10,000th time.

this shit is old. and no i don't care that a lot of the espn'ers think he'll stay or should stay. it's not the point. the f*cking season is still going on. we're not even to the playoffs yet. he's months away from free agency. he's not the only free pending free agent. but let's dedicate another day to lebron's free agency and then regurgitate all the same old tired takes. it's weak.

i'll worry about lebron going fa when the season is over and even then i won't worry about it. because lebrons life has no impact on my life. he could go play for al-quaida and i wouldn't give a sh*t.

^ hilarious

NY got their homer article and THE CLEVELAND BEAT REPORTER GOT TO REBUTTAL.

But hey, those one sided ESPN pricks sure are assholes.

(obviously you don't know who Windy is and or never clicked the links).

And predictably, here's Chowd Fan to back to the hilt his precious national basketball media.

Yes, the bulk of the national media wants LeBron out of Cleveland. Fact. They don't want to come here 15 times in the middle of winter. They want to go to New York, Miami, Chicago, Los Angeles. Not Cleveland.

hermanfontenot wrote:And predictably, here's Chowd Fan to back to the hilt his precious national basketball media.

Yes, the bulk of the national media wants LeBron out of Cleveland. Fact. They don't want to come here 15 times in the middle of winter. They want to go to New York, Miami, Chicago, Los Angeles. Not Cleveland.

Not even controversial to say that.

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I mean, I have nothing more to say than the fact that A Cleveland reporter had his article posted on ESPNNY.

I mean, I have nothing more to say than the fact that A Cleveland reporter had his article posted on ESPNNY.

If that doesn't say enough I don't know what more will.

They allowed a Cleveland reporter to write a story on ESPN? Well golly, that shore is nice of them city folk! (Tugs on suspenders.)

Like I said, it's obvious and it has been for a long time. But don't let me interfere with your superiority complex, Eeyore. Go ahead and cluck to Hench and J-Bug about what rubes we are here in the flatlands.

I think the point is that despite making a ton of valid LBJ to NY points the author goes out of the way to bash/put down/besmirch C-Town for no reason other than it is C-Town.

Does NY have a lot to offer LBJ, hells yes. Should LBJ leave C-Town just because its C-Town, hells no. The "its Cleveland" arguement on why LBJ should go to NY is what is old, tired and not valid, IMHO.

I think the point is that despite making a ton of valid LBJ to NY points the author goes out of the way to bash/put down/besmirch C-Town for no reason other than it is C-Town.

Does NY have a lot to offer LBJ, hells yes. Should LBJ leave C-Town just because its C-Town, hells no. The "its Cleveland" arguement on why LBJ should go to NY is what is old, tired and not valid, IMHO.

Happy Easter, everyone!

No problem w/ that take and I agree. Only thing is I'm not going to cry about a New Yorker talking down on Cleveland because it is Cleveland compared to NY.

I mean this was ESPNNY, again and was obviously a New York homer.

C-town got it's very own rebuttal, which is far more than they had to give them.

The issue isn't whether or not ESPN has columns with takes on either side. It is that it is even a topic, and it repeatedly is, and that they devote so much attention to it even as the playoffs are right around the corner. This whole circus has been unprecedented. It really is a slap in the face of Cleveland that this has been going on for so long.

Journalists/editors always like to say "I'm just covering the story/news!", but they are the ones who make things like this news. This isn't something that has actually happened yet, it isn't a game, it just isn't news except for the fact that they have decided that it is. BTW this isn't limited to just this, but infects all of our media (especially political coverage, which is consumed with trivial nonsense/horse race coverage/meta-analysis of the media by the media) at the expense of what is actually important).

Personally I don't really care either way and have stopped reading all of the stupid speculation about everything that goes on in all sports, but especially the NBA.

Reading stories like this is equivalent to watching writers pleasure themselves.

I know more about pizza than you. Much more in fact. - Cerebral_DownTime

aoxo1 wrote:The issue isn't whether or not ESPN has columns with takes on either side. It is that it is even a topic, and it repeatedly is, and that they devote so much attention to it even as the playoffs are right around the corner. This whole circus has been unprecedented. It really is a slap in the face of Cleveland that this has been going on for so long.

Journalists/editors always like to say "I'm just covering the story/news!", but they are the ones who make things like this news. This isn't something that has actually happened yet, it isn't a game, it just isn't news except for the fact that they have decided that it is. BTW this isn't limited to just this, but infects all of our media (especially political coverage, which is consumed with trivial nonsense/horse race coverage/meta-analysis of the media by the media) at the expense of what is actually important).

Personally I don't really care either way and have stopped reading all of the stupid speculation about everything that goes on in all sports, but especially the NBA.

Reading stories like this is equivalent to watching writers pleasure themselves.

Rack it.

The NY based article reads like an obese 14 year old girls twilight fan fiction.

Windy's on the other hand is well written and shows both sides in a fair way. His mention of LeBrons dream house is pretty dead on, I've been by it and its literally within in 5 minutes of a an Akron General "Health and Wellness Center", which is open 24 hours.

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Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

Yeah, growing up in the mid 90's and rooting for the Indians and Boys sure is indicative of not being a front runner. Right up there w/ your sudden Cavs fandom.

And you have no clue who I root for kid. I root for all the C-town teams, I just happen to be over 2 of the major sports.

In six+ months here thus far all you have done is leave keyboard diarrhea all over the site and prove you are a front running racist.

Now please, go the eff away.

aoxo:

This is fair and I agree (I have avoided most of it all along). That said, the trade deadline pushed this front and center and no matter what we want the fact that 11 teams dumped enough to bid on the biggest sports star in the world at the moment will not be ignored. I *hope* this was just an ESPNNY launch thing and this doesn't go on during the playoffs, but I'm not going to hold my breathe. I truthfully never would have even posted this if not for Windy jumping into the ring and dropping what is about as fair a sum up of the whole thing as will ever be dropped.

That said, Wojo (que Herm whine) even tweeted "et tu bw?" last night about Windy jumping into the media circus on this at this stage in the season. When one of the biggest national hoops guys out there is commenting on the absurdity of the story, well, it must be pretty damn absurd.

Sadly though thanks to our society this story ain't going nowhere and if 75% of the posters here weren't busy trying to figure out WTF a cookie is this probably would have been posted even quicker then I put it up.

In short I agree w/ you, but I also am more accepting of the situation then you. No issues w/ your stance at all though.

e0y2e3 wrote:Ya know, Ben getting that up 2 hours before me is going to be a tough blow to overcome.

I blame the cookies.

i appreciate the self-deprecating sense of humor. hee-hee!!! no but seriously though, i never have understood the whole idea behind beat reporters having to get the scoop on things like this. so what??? you better believe though until july is over and "the decision" is finally made, it's only going to get worse and worse.

Again, I don't fault ESPN for speculating such on June 2010, but the take that has been in previous articles has been weak as hell.

the stupidest take is the "Win in cleveland and you'll be remembered, win in NYC and you'll be immortalized.."

Which shows how clueless this guy is, hell, look at Kosar, the guy is still hoisted as this great figure in C-Town sports, you put him on say, the Jets with similar results and the guy is simply remembered as a guy who "couldn't win the big one" and would be as well thought of as Ken O'Brien is right now.

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

Why I am I dead-solid certain that ramllov is finishing a post in his own new thread in which he tells us LBJ will apparently be a free agent after the season, that big market teams like the Knicks are interested while their big market media write column after column about it and that it will be important to the Cavs franchise whether he stays or goes.

And I'll set the line at 5 1/2 on other 'LBJ Free Agency' threads between now and when he tells the world he's staying here.

I think in Bron's heart of hearts, he really really really really wants to call MSG home. But Isaiah and Walsh Paxson'd that roster for years to come, and D-Wade ain't going to come calling just to play Bron's Robin. It'll be 2005 all over again, and Bron knows he can't wait another four/five years for a new roster to be built around him.

Now, on the other hand, if there was a major market area with world-class ownership, Finals-ready roster, and, say, a giant football stadium open for NBA dates... Why a sign 'n trade to the Mavs isn't on anybody but Simmons's radar is a mystery to me.

Oh, and when your off-season is drawing more news than your potential post-season, your Association has issues.

"The fucking Who...... If I want to watch old people run around ill go set fire to a nursing home." - CDT

Last thing dude wants to hear is Karl Malone and Charles Barkley comps. Especially since he reads and watches all that stuff.

Anyone that thinks hes going to go join a gutted out Knicks roster that is 3-4 years away in a best case scenario just doesn't know LeBron.

I would say joining Rose, Noah, and Bosh/Wade in Chicago would be a possibility ... but I firmly believe LBJ wants no part of all the pressure that would come with trying to fill his heroes shoes in Chicago.

"It's like dating a woman who hates you so much she will never break up with you, even if you burn down the house every single autumn." ~ Chuck Klosterman on Browns fans relationship with the Browns

swerb wrote:I would say joining Rose, Noah, and Bosh/Wade in Chicago would be a possibility ... but I firmly believe LBJ wants no part of all the pressure that would come with trying to fill his heroes shoes in Chicago.

I think it'd be less having to fill MJ's shoes and more having to deal with Jerry Reinsdorf and Vinny Del Negro. One thing that gets easily lost is the Dan Gilbert factor. There are only a handful of guys around the league with the same desire to win as well as keep their star player happy: Dr. Buss, Mark Cuban, the Maloofs, and maybe Comrade East Rutherford.

"The fucking Who...... If I want to watch old people run around ill go set fire to a nursing home." - CDT

I can't see LBJ in Chicago. The shadow of MJ is too large. It would be sacrilegious for anyone in Chicago to infer that LBJ is better than MJ. LBJ is very concerned about his legacy. If the best he could do is be the second best player in franchise history, that would bug him. NY would happily call him the best ever. Of course, here in Cleveland, he may have clearly been the best ever in his rookie year!!

"The nose of the bulldog has been slanted backwards so that he can breathe without letting go." -- Winston Churchill

Out of our control and the Cavs have done everything possible to keep him, just tune out the chatter. If he wants to leave a stacked roster and a storybook situation so he can party more and play for the most overrated NBA franchise with only Chris Bosh and garbage to help him, what can you do?

"Well then I guess there's only one thing left to do...win the whole, f***in', thing."- Jake Taylor

Peeker643 wrote:Why I am I dead-solid certain that ramllov is finishing a post in his own new thread in which he tells us LBJ will apparently be a free agent after the season, that big market teams like the Knicks are interested while their big market media write column after column about it and that it will be important to the Cavs franchise whether he stays or goes.

I'll never accuse Ramlov of being afraid to start a new paragraph either...

Peeker643 wrote:Why I am I dead-solid certain that ramllov is finishing a post in his own new thread in which he tells us LBJ will apparently be a free agent after the season, that big market teams like the Knicks are interested while their big market media write column after column about it and that it will be important to the Cavs franchise whether he stays or goes.

He's an aminatron or maybe just a program that mutated into having an ego fuelled by Barry allowing him a modicum of responsibility cause Barry is a nice guy?

peeker643 wrote:Why I am I dead-solid certain that ramllov is finishing a post in his own new thread in which he tells us LBJ will apparently be a free agent after the season, that big market teams like the Knicks are interested while their big market media write column after column about it and that it will be important to the Cavs franchise whether he stays or goes.

Trivisono, who I trust about as much as I can throw him, says his insider told him that LBJ is staying. He will sign a 3-5 year deal contingent on the CBA. No link, heard it on the way home, when I was avoiding commercials, and Triv is #6 on my truck radio. Take it for what it's worth, which is very little IMO.