New York or New Jersey?

I get it. The Giants/Jets play in New Jersey. Buffalo is technically the only team in NY. You don’t need to point it out, because you know who else has pointed it out before you? EVERYONE.

What is still sort of funny on a technical level has been joked to death. I can, in the year of our lord 2014, go on twitter, or reddit, or wherever, and mention New York teams in some way. And then inevitably some smug ass goes “Hurr durr there is only one team in new York/The Giants play in new jersey hurff durff” like he’s made the most clever joke in all of mankind. Congrats bro, you just pointed out something people have been saying for 40 years. It’s a shame, because the idea is still kinda funny in a whatever sort of way when you think about it. Two teams associated with our biggest city don’t play in the city or state they are named for? It’s kind of amusing. But it’s been that way for so long, it’s lost all luster and has become annoying.

I wonder why the Redskins don’t get it. They play in Maryland. But you make a Maryland Redskins joke and they just look at you and go “The stadium is like 10 minutes from DC limits”. Well, uh, it’s not like the Meadowlands is down in Camden or something, it’s right across the river. They are associated with the city. Everyone understands this. When I talk New York teams and you point out that they don’t play in New York, You have added nothing to the discussion. It’s not like saying “New York Giants” really confuses people because they are actually in Jersey, everyone knows who the New York Giants/Jets are and what city/area they represent, you are just being a doof and interjecting 40 year old jokes to try and sound clever.

Anyway that whole joke is just a pet peeve of mine. Every fan probably has that one joke they are absolutely sick of hearing. You know the one joke everyone always makes that is so tired that you’d just wish it would die? So what’s yours? What football joke/fact that people bring up do you wish would die a horrible flaming death? What cliche would you like to stamp out right now if you could? Honestly I’m curious, because it might save me from making comics with those jokes in the future. Dave cares. So hit me. What cliches should I avoid if I can?

Discussion (69) ¬

As a Patriots fan I somehow actually enjoy 18-1 gags (and have provided several of my own to the pile) yet I hate the “System Babby” tag /sp/ has given Brady. Ohh and for what it’s worth I still despise the Gnats and Eli’s 4th quarter miracles.

What I don’t understand how people from New Jersey are about it. I know two people from Jersey who’ll kill you if you say they’re New Yorkers, but they get really upset when people call them the New Jersey Jets or the New Jersey Giants. Maybe there’s something I’m missing as a fan of none of the New York teams, but…shouldn’t you be happy about the fact they play in your state?

I am in the minority but I refuse to cheer for them. Both teams now have their entire organization in NJ (Giants in E Rutherford and jets in Florham Park) and try as hard as they can to make sure they aren’t associated with Jersey so I said fuck’em and cheer for a different team.

They aren’t trying to disassociate from NJ because its not a New York State/New Jersey State thing. They are keeping their association with the City of New York and the reasoning for that is a combination of being close enough to remain a representative of the city they were founded in and the money and high profile that comes with representing New York City.

That’s because despite the picture Jersey Shore would like to paint, New Jerseyans are not monolithic. Some feel that Jersey (especially North Jersey) is essentially just suburban NYC. This is usually people that actually commute into the city for work, but not necessarily just that group. Others feel that Jersey should have nothing to do with NY.

Generally speaking, however, northern NJ and NYC could be considered brothers of a sort. Yeah we give each other a lot of crap (it goes both ways), but when someone outside the area starts talking smack about either of us, we unite against the outside threat.

I can never allow 18-1 to die as a Giants fan but Spygate is for sure overplayed to hell. People still say “they haven’t won a Super Bowl since Spygate” like it’s this thing that matters and I want to hurt them.

Crap, I forgot about Spygate. I recently received crap for that, it’s no use telling them Spygate was overblown to hell because apparently Belichick misenterpreted the rules, all I can do now is just roll my eyes.

as a 49ers fan I am going to get ready to start hearing it very soon. You know “huuurrrr they should be called the Santa Clara/San Jose 49ers Huuurrrrr.” So yeah….ther are going to be idiots everywhere.

As a Pats fan, making 2007 jokes is the only way I feel they’ll die. Yeah, they went 16-0 regular season and made the Super Bowl, only to lose to Peyton’s terrible, retarded kid brother… Twice. *Ahem* Welker *ahem* Besides, it’s long enough ago to be able to… Not cry when someone mentions it. The 1986 World Series however, is not. (Even though I was born 7 years after)
Another one is that the Pats are considered a ‘Boston team’ but play around 15 minutes down the road. Get over it, they’re not called the Boston Patriots any more.
I get a lot of crap as well because I support the Pats, Red Sox and Bruins but the OKC Thunder over the Celtics.
My dad’s a Niners fan and he’s already hearing the Santa Clara ‘jokes’.
I also know a Browns fan. No seriously. He’s not imaginary and he’s definitely alive. He gets jokes that he’s a sadist and chooses to inflict pain on himself. One of my best friends is a Giants fan and I’ve never given him shit for ‘New Jersey Giants’ but others have, in particular, our Colts fan friend who hears a lot of Luck ‘jokes’.

Eagles fans booing and throwing snowballs at Santa Claus. For crying out loud, that was over 45 years, 2 stadiums, 3 owners, and who knows how many coaches and QBs ago. Probably half the Eagles’ fanbase nowadays weren’t even alive yet (it was 6 years before I was born).

There are plenty of things even in just the last 20-25 years about the Eagles and their fans that people can make jokes about. The court & jail in Vet’s Stadium. The fact that they continue to be the only NFC East team with an empty trophy case. (To those old-timer Eagles’ fans who constantly argue about that, shut up about the 1960 championship. No one born in the Super Bowl era cares.) Those horrible bee-colored *things* they wore on throwback day several years ago.

No, but you could use them to mock those who use them. Many of my football buddies haven’t referred to a team other than their own by it their real names in years. I’d love to see a comic that flames that entire aspect of the football community

As a Packer fan, I would also point out “Fudge-Packers” as another stupidly low blow that should be stricken from the lexicon.

Also fail-mary jokes are annoying and I wish we could just agree to put that ugly play behind us. It was not a clean anything, and any Seahawks fan/player/media outlet that says otherwise is full of it.

While I don’t make that “joke”, I still consider the Giants (and Jets) New Jersey teams because that is where they play. It’s not like I correct people by saying “You mean the NJ Giants”. I just consider them a Jersey team that happens to have “New York” in their title. If I say something about it, it’s not because I’m making a joke, it’s because I want my state to be fairly represented and not get the shaft.

YES YES a thousand times YES. We get it, we root for people who come from a long, unfortunate line of suck and fail historically. Drop it already.

“Ben-GALS” never ceases to make me grind my teeth, while we’re at it, and “Cincinnati Convicts” jokes haven’t been acceptable since Deltha O’Neal got the hook, but I’ll still hear the occasional crack about it. *writhe*

I really hate when I’m trying to have an articulate conversation about football and the valid strengths and weaknesses of a team and people love to drop in the “yeah well how many rings do you have??” bit. I get it – a Super Bowl ring is the ultimate prize – but that’s not what this conversation is about. Hopefully now that my Hawks finally have one, that will lessen??? But I doubt it. I get it. We weren’t good for a really long time. We also haven’t been a team for a full 40 years – a lot of you other guys have a big head start! That’s not specifically a Hawks thing though. Just a football peeve in general.

My biggest Seahawks irritant is when people say the Seachickens. It’s kind of fitting for the majority of our franchise history, but doesn’t make me any less tired hearing it, considering I’ve probably heard it 8,000 times in my 15 years of being a die-hard fan devoted to a really bad team. Each loss was gut-wrenching enough. I got it. We’re not good. Thanks for the reminder. Thank goodness for one solid season

Anything involving Dan Snyder/overspending. This hasn’t been the case for a few years now. Also, even though I’m glad Shanahan was fired, the “he can’t win without John Elway” schtick drove me insane.

But my biggest cliche/pet peeve has nothing to do with my own team. The next person I hear talk about how it was Tony Dungy’s team that Jon Gruden won a Super Bowl with is getting a foot to the nads. How come Dungy couldn’t take his own team to the Super Bowl?

That Seahawks fans are fair weather. For Seattlites, that has the same sting as the lies spread by Clay Bennett and David Stern that Seattle fans didn’t support the Sonics (if you haven’t watched SonicsGate, I highly suggest doing so).

When I went to MetLife for the Seahawks-Giants game this year, there weren’t many Giants fans to speak of. I’m not saying that Giants fans are fair weather. Every fan base will have their bandwagon fans when they’re and we’re not an exception, but “fair weather” and “Seattle” are two phrases not commonly used in the same sentence. We love and support this franchise just like any other loyal fan base would.

I always got the impression the Seattle was more into the Mariners than football, until this year. Not trying to say that they’re “bandwagon”, it just seemed more like a baseball city.

New York is like this as well (WAAAAAAAAAY more yankee fans than giants and jets combined around here), but the city is just so populous that they can still get away with fielding two baseball franchises and two football franchises. If you count all the teams in the greater NY area, there’s 9 total teams between football, baseball, basketball, and hockey…

Seahawks fan. For me, it’s definitely being “reminded” that A&M owns the trademark on “12th Man”. I put “reminded” in quotes because, of course, it’s always by people who know less about it than I do, but wish to inform me, the clearly less-experienced less-knowledgable party (by virtue that I’m a Hawks fan, who are all bandwagoners, lol).

Most of the other stuff I hear all the time, I actually enjoy. “Seahawks fans are all fake. They’re all bandwagoners. Fake crowd noise. They call themselves 12s, that’s so stupid. The players cheat, they hit so hard.” To me, these are all just different ways of them saying “Damn, it burns me that you beat us this year, so I gotta reach and make up stuff and put you down because, damn, I just can’t let that go! Why couldn’t we beat you!?”

The A&M thing, on the other hand, is a factual statement, and often a dig, so it sorta compels a response. It leads to this god awful, waste of time conversation, where nobody’s having fun, and nobody cares. “*sigh* A&M didn’t originate the term, they began using the term in 1922, U of Iowa actually used the term as far back as 1912 and U of Minnesota in year 1900, and soccer teams have used it since forever, Seahawks retired #12 in 1984, A&M decided to trademark the term in 1990, they sent desist orders to several NFL teams who were using the term, every other team complied, Seahawks told them to pound sand, they reached a settlement so Seahawks can use it, A&M receives a token $5k a year, and nobody gets sued, the settlement expires in 2016, both sides can renew it or they can take the trademark case to court.” But if you don’t say anything, it looks like you didn’t know and that they just educated you on it. So you just have to have this same dumb conversation every time. :/

It’s not all bad, though. There’s always the entertaining way people frame it differently. A few are polite. Many are “I’ll bet Seahawks fans don’t know…” My favorite are the ones, usually 49er fans, who preface it with “BRACE YOURSELVES, SO-CALLED SEACOCKS ’12TH MAN,’ CUZ I’M ABOUT TO DROP SOME COLD FACTS THAT’LL ROCK YOUR FEEBLE HAWK WORLD!” Dude. We know.

As a Raiders fan, there aren’t really any jokes I hate. I’m willing to take any crap (almost) anyone wants to dish out on my team, and I’ve cracked Raiders jokes on my own. Besides, for every bad Raiders joke, we’ve got one badass thing about the franchise we can say to shut you up.

What I can’t stand are certain PEOPLE who crack the jokes. Particularly Chiefs fans. I was raised in Kansas. I was even a Chiefs fan for most of my young life. So I honestly cannot stand it when Kansas City fans talk crap. I’ve never met a Chargers fan who talked crap, and Broncos fans at least have a team that can back up their smack, but Kansas City? They have some of the chirpingest fans in the world, who knowingly root for the third worst franchise (behind Cleveland and Buffalo) in the NFL.

FYI, my loyalty shifted permanently when they did Gannon wrong in Kansas City. I got sick of the pain, and decided to follow a player that I enjoyed to a team that knew what he could do.

Most Chargers fans (myself included) are well aware that a team that once drafted Ryan Leaf has little justification to go talking “crap”… especially when the same city brought us Matt Bush as a draft pick…

The fact that Texas A & M were The “original 12th man”. As a Seahawks fan, I’ve heard this a lot but this year it seemed to be mentioned in every Seahawks related article. First all you, neither of us invented it. It originated in the 1910s, 75 years before either organization even began using the term to represent the fans. It is not original in any way. 2nd or all, A&M trademarked the term first. That’s why it seems like we stole it. We started it at the same time. A&M just didn’t want to share it.

Well, i get that you’ve pointed it out and it annoys you, but its still absolutely ridiculous that its the case – no amount of highlighting it is going to change that.

i think the reason the “joke” is so enduring is that is represents a lot of the things people dislike about New York, and wider America as a whole – New York is a better brand, better image, more marketable, so lets stick our heads in the sand about the whole matter and pretend New Jersey doesnt exist, lalalalalalala

Read lots of great stories about what happened to the poor folks who tried to sell the Superbowl as “Superbowl New Jersey”, etc. The NFL wasnt happy about that at all. But it doesnt matter how you spin it, or say the joke is old, the Superbowl was still in NJ at the end of the day.

Oh; and when the niners move; it will indeed be the Santa Clara 49ers. Because the team won’t be in San Francisco. Not difficult to work out.

What is still sort of funny on a technical level has been joked to death. I can, in the year of our lord 2014, go on twitter, or reddit, or wherever, and mention Rex Grossman in some way. And then inevitably some smug ass goes “Hurr durr Sexy Rexy hurff durff I’M GOING DEEP” like he’s made the most clever joke in all of mankind.

I know this is months after this comic was posted, but I’m about deathly sick of hearing the false “Ray Lewis is a murderer/Ravens are a team of convicts blah blah blah” stuff. It’s gotten even worse since the Ray Rice situation has been blown completely out of proportion and not actually looked into.

Why do people honestly believe Ray Lewis killed two men, 14 years later?
– He paid for the victims families. Well no one else stepped up to do it. If he hadn’t he’d be viewed as even more guilty.
– There is a missing white suit the allegedly had blood on it. No one knows how much. Just that “there was blood on it” allegedly.
– He just happened to be there when the fight occurred.

I don’t know what court system you know will find a man guilty all because of this. I see no murder weapon, no intent, no confession, no evidence to say he actually did the deed.

Why are people still bringing this up?

To all the people that are talking about Ray Rice getting his low punishment, get some information first would you? Ray’s wife was beating on him and spitting in his face so he slapped her. The momentum caused her to bang her head on an elevator rail and fall out. They were both being intoxicated idiots. If you don’t think a man should be able to defend himself when a woman is beating on him and spitting in his face then you really need to get your shit straight. If he would’ve beat her down and LITERALLY knocked her out I would understand the outrage, but all he did was slap her hard. And now people are gonna act like players like Justin Blackmon don’t deserve the harsh punishment they are getting? The damn difference is, Ray and his wife got married, apologized, and are/have been doing marriage counseling and Justin Blackmon NEVER STOPS SCREWING UP.