Currently I use REI polypro-long johns, Draggin' Jeans and Frank Thomas Aqua Cover pants on the bottom and a variety of layers up top to stay warm during the CA winter. (Okay, you guys with REAL winters... fire at will) I was thinking about moving to a heavier weight base layer (i.e. BMW Phase Change, REI Expedition Weight, Patagonia Wool 4) so I can stay warmer with less layers and bulk. FWIW, I'm asking about all day warmth, not a ride that is shorter than the time it takes to suit up. I do have, and use, a Gerbings full heated jacket liner under my BMW 3-Phase jacket. Seems to work pretty well, but it isn't too long before I'm putting on the Rain Jacket to block the wind that leaks through the BMW fabric. Thanks.

I use BMW Phase Change shirt and pants under my 3-phase jacket and darien pants.......
Very good down to 32 degrees with a heated vest....................................
not so good for cooling but I've found nothing better for warmth....................
( because of the quick dry fabric, I also use the phase change kayaking)

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