appreciate your clarification, except for one thing, you clearly don't have a notion as to what this is about. The point about the AF is that it's members in ireland developed links with the ASF, put out joint bulletins on "the north" and "unions" and then merged, disbanding both previous organisations. This should have meant defacto that the AF in ireland no longer existed and as such any membership enquiries should have been directed to Organise! no matter where they live.

I'm sorry but this is a complete fucking non-issue. The AF is not seeking to organise in Ireland, North or Republic.

At our recent delegate meeting I raised the question of our relationship with anarchist groups in Ireland. I think the relationship has been quite weak recently and we should be working more closely - particularly since we got involved in the Rossport issue and because we face many other similar problems. Others agreed. That is our Ireland policy.

We have one member on the west coast. He is a full and active member, not just a supporter, he writes for Organise, Resistance and contributes to discussions. He also writes articles for your paper, doesn't he?

If a person got in touch with the AF, said they didn't want to join Organise! but wanted to join the AF, would they be able to? And if this happened would they become the second AF member in Ireland? And say this member recruited a few more people to the AF, would it constitute an AF prescence in Ireland and would it seek to orgainse in Ireland as the AF?

Cos if this was the case I think the whole process that the Anarcho Syndicalist Federation and the Anarchist Federation (Ireland) went through is pretty fucking pointless.

If a person got in touch with the AF, said they didn't want to join Organise! but wanted to join the AF, would they be able to? And if this happened would they become the second AF member in Ireland? And say this member recruited a few more people to the AF, would it constitute an AF prescence in Ireland and would it seek to orgainse in Ireland as the AF?

As far as I know, there's no reason they couldn't do that in theory. In practice, it's highly unlikely and something we would probably try to avoid.

Revol, Ned ain't little and he ain't a fuck. Think carefully about adressing people as if they were actually physically in front of you and the possible consequences- because, believe me those consequences could be grievious
And finally, wash your mouth out with soap and water

No , it's not a threat and I'm not Grandad Smurf. I'm asking you to consider whether you would speak to someone face to face in the same way as you do online, and frankly I doubt it from a brief encounter with you.

Ned made an accusation which in this instance was quite clearly wrong, and based upon what he expects from revol, not on what he actually posted - and thus in the long run, not productive.

No, I made an accusation which was quite clearly correct, and not based on what I expect but on what he had acutally posted.

So you think i'm on a wind up? Because it clearly would be strange to be a bit interested in the fact the AF see itself as having a presence in Ireland, despite the fact it was suppoused to have dissolved itself about 3 years ago? Add into this a collection of ambigious answers in regards to their acceptance of new members.

I think its very clear that you are on a wind up, as you have obsessed over minutiae to create a totally contrived conflict despite being able to acertain an answer some time ago. Simply look at what has been written: AF would direct people in Ireland who enquired to Organise. AF has one member in ireland, but they are not recruiting. The first post on this thread was wrong, but other than that its been crystal clear: the only problem was that it wasn't word perfect, and we all said the same in in very very slightly different ways. The reason for this is that the likelihood of someone applying from Ireland and refusing to look into Organise instead is very low, and it has never happened. Therefore we have not got an exact response.

I think it is also clear that continuing the 'debate' in the manner that you have has only demonstrated why people could assume you were on a wind up. Calling people 'little fucks'or 'Grandpa smurfs' and being aggressive again and again is not conducive to cordial relations.

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