As a new forum member - I have a question about something I have been unable to find through the search mechanism, though it has undoubtably been covered somewhere at some point in time.

A brief personal history:

I was born to a military family (USAF)in 1974 and my father worked in a classified position, my early childhood was full of verbal violence and double standards - I became introverted and quietly observant as a result of it, as well as having a stark contrast of a dual personality (quiet and reserved on one hand, but prone to outbursts of controlling and exhibitionist behavior on the other). I excelled in school but shyed away from the majority of my schoolmates - mainly because "civilian schools" were so chaotic as opposed to schools on base.

In 1995 I became obsessed with traveling, and ended up backpacking across the United States where I encountered a way of life that suited every aspect of my life - physical, spiritual, mental - and did quite well for myself on several fronts.

I hung around the LSD drug culture almost exclusively (for some reason, a voice in the back of my head kept telling me I was "monitoring them") and it was not uncommon to be "aware" of being watched by various remote agents (most of the kids were paranoid and because of my military upbringing, I would always talk them down out of their delusions of Big Brother and even go so far as to wave to the Feds they claimed were tracking them). It was all very lighthearted, and nothing was too malicious about these encounters. Everyone was very open and friendly (including our observers) and many ideas were discussed and many freedoms of thought were shared during these times.

In 1997 I became obsessed with moving to Seattle, and did so with little more than a backpack and a guitar and somehow managed to make ends meet and establish residency.

Soon after I began living there, I began hearing voices. They told me to "come join them", and I would leave my apartment and venture into the nightlife district, where I was "guided" through what I can only describe as a telepathic means of communication to various locations, meetings and gatherings.

All fared well - my creativity was at a high point and I was learning new skills everyday - there was purpose in my life, and every step lead to new and interesting discoveries on a variety of subjects.

Until 2000.

I found myself falling into trance states and acting almost robotically to subconcious prompts on several occassions.

One evening, in one of these traces I gathered up every piece of writing I had accumulated over 5 years, placed it all in a black garbage bag and walked it out to the curb at 1am. I stood several feet away from the "dropoff" and saw a black car with tinted windows pull up with only a red light visible in the dash console, and heard a voice in my head say "get in".

I told them (mentally) there was no chance in hell I was getting into a car with an unknown person, and returned indoors.

I was called out on several occassions after that, but never again saw a vehicle of any sort, or any "source" for these prompts.

In 2002, I had been without this type of activity for a good year when suddenly, out of nowhere, I hear a male voice in my head say "LEAVE". Within 45 minutes I had closed my affairs with my housemates, was packed, and on the road back to Texas.

While in Texas, I recieved electronic harrassment and was besieged by voices and "experiences" I cannot quite explain on an almost continual basis - from being watched, to being telepathically assaulted and acting like a drone on autopilot.

I am now living in a small town in a remote location - with a minimal of harrassment aside from a very negative "feel" to the place, excessive lethargy (I sleep almost 18 hours a day) and am unable to interact socially in the community I have found myself in.

I have had several unexplainable episodes ranging from the voices, to direct prompts to "leave" (I am unable to do so at this point in time for various reasons otherwise I would) and when I do not comply, the voices become hostile.

I am cut off from any positive reinforcement outside of my family and one close friend. The mental landscape is hostile and whenever I do hear voices they are rude, arrogant and profoundly ignorant.

My Father and I rarely communicate and even though he is retired, his phone is still monitored and he will not discuss this matter with me.

MY QUESTIONS ARE THESE:

Am I a MONARCH child?

Does any of this fall in line with tactics of control and punishment? Did I screw up somewhere, or was there just a regime change?

Is there anything I can do in my current environment besides sleep, save for the move, and wait?

ANY CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK WOULD BE APPRECIATED, AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DETAILS IF NEEDED.

(sorry to jump in so hard and fast, folks...but this is really weighing heavily on my mind right now)

Tor

09-01-2006, 05:26 AM

My assumption here is that coming from a military family that you received your vaccinations from a military hospital. Does the name Lot 6 have amy relevance for you? If it does PM me for private conversation on this matter. No reason to bother others with things like this.

KIA

09-01-2006, 05:39 AM

You're kidding me right?

The only association I have with Lot 6 is from reading Stephen Kings "Firestarter" a few months ago.

I remember very little of the testing other than the I.Q. examination and booster shots and immunizations right before before we were transferred overseas.

Tor

09-01-2006, 06:06 AM

Where do you think Stephen King got the nomenclature Lot 6 from? I'm not joking about Lot 6 by the way. See if you still have your old shot records and look. It was on mine.

This happened back in 1982 when 10 of us were pulled aside from a training group and told we had to get another immunization. Something about missing an important one. After I got my shot record back it was stamped Lot 6. I asked about it and the medic said he wasn't sure what it was. I pursued finding out over a period of 20 years until I was finally told to stop asking about it by a military doctor of considerable rank. Some time after that my military shot records were "lost" from my medical file.

I kept track of two of the guys that received Lot 6 and they have similar symptoms that I just posted.

I have never has a cold or the flu from that time forward. I did suffer from insomnia though from that point onward.

Bouncer

09-01-2006, 12:06 PM

I'll add a little bit: the psychological stuff, commands, suggestions, and negative reinforcement when you "disobey" (good for you!!) are all standard conditioning types used in experiments by a few of the three-letter agencies as well as private groups such as occult-based organizations.
Being from a military family could have at one time put you in the queue for experimentation some time in your past.
Also consider that mass media regularly use subliminal audio and visual material which can "bubble up" from the subconscious and produce hallucinations, etc.
What you experience now could be abreactions, "flashbacks" to those times, so try a little exercise in telling the difference between external and internal stimuli.

Let me know if you want to hear more; I had some people try similar things on me in the past.

09-01-2006, 03:50 PM

This reeks of Jewry

09-01-2006, 04:00 PM

And you reek period. Go ahead give it up you are also part of this ploy Justin.

KIA

09-01-2006, 06:57 PM

This is interesting and informative - thank you, everyone. Every bit of information helps me put all thisinto a proper perspective.

My military records are somewhere in storage, according to my mother. I'll ask if she can find them when things aren't so hectic for her.

I rarely watch television, it gives me headaches and dumps a load of unwanted psychic garbage on me -except for [adult swim] - which I can tolerate, lol.

And even though it was intended as an insult - the "jewry" statement makes a point in an of itself.

There has been a very strong German presence running through this entire experience, and I'm not talking about anti-semitism.

I'm talking more about reading the proper books, keeping the mind sharp and the body strong, working towards something "greater" and "higher" than the standard that is washed over the majority of the masses. Becoming the best person possible and striving for the highest human ideals.

There has been no talk (or prompt) of Anti-Semitism, although I have a strong hatred of hyper-consumerism. I own two guitars, a laptop, a backpack, an old 1940's typewriter, two footlockers full of symbollic "trophies" I kept from my time on the road (I call them my "spoils of war"), two sets of boots, one pair of sandals and a few clothes...and I don't have need (or want) of much else.

It you want some funny experiences that happened to me in Seattle regarding the "SS" and the "game" that I was a member of the "youth fighting on the front" I'd be more than happy to discuss this with you in private message.

I'm not going to play off like all of this has been fun and games, though - there have been intense moments with this line of prompting in the past - but seeing as I'm female, I think they've been rather lienient with me.

It's just reaffirming knowing there are other people out there who can relate or understand.

Things aren't as clear as they used to be, and I'm no longer "in the loop" so to speak. I'm currently stuck in a small town in one of the most poorly educated states in the Union and there is no one I can talk to about this in the area.

Since I've moved here, the ideology has gone from Germanic ideals of excellence to outright hate, distrust and contempt for anything different, and it's been very difficult trying to deal with whatever locals are in on this whole thing.

If there is anything else I can volunteer - please do not hesitate to ask.

KIA

09-10-2006, 03:36 AM

Ok - I'm starting ot see this site for what it is...I'm checking out, I know a trap when I see one these days.

Ixnay on the previous offer of additional info.

Rockyroad

09-10-2006, 07:33 AM

A quick warning about tor; he is obviously a tool of the government. He has continually worked to kill any discussion of "sensitive" topics... AFTER he trapped the person into revealing personal information. He has been pestering me for personal information but I am still safely hiding behind this proxy. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT give tor any personal information or you may have unwanted govt visitors show up at your residence.

09-10-2006, 02:46 PM

Yes, I know. I had them to show up and they said you were working with tor's gang. Now does that mean that you are working with Barbarian and Shadow or are you really they or are they lying about you being an alternate of Tor or his brother Bor or you really me?

KIA

09-10-2006, 04:17 PM

I'm not worried about "Government Visitors" in the slightest.

I've been through enough strange things and hospitalizations to know that the Government is the least of my worries.

I'm more afraid of doctors who put me under sedation without provacation and waking up in scenarios only to find out I had been talking for hours with no recollection of having done so.

I talked to my father the other day and he told me he did some checks before he retired, and the FBI has no case file on me.

Besides, when I was 16 two FBI agents showed up at my home to question my mother (she had remarried) and I about my father - he was up for a promotion to a sensitive area.

I thought it was rather cool. But of course, everyone at school thought I was making it up since I didn't have "photo evidence". (Like the FBI are going to sit around and let their photos taken on assignment.)

I'm used to skeptics, but internet trolls are another matter entirely.

Sounds like this "Tor" fellow has some serious issues he needs to work out in a more constructive format - if he's online under different handles talking to himself, maybe he should consider being a fiction writer rather than an internet lurker.

He might make some money rather than enemies.

That being said - I'm out of here.

09-10-2006, 09:13 PM

Not unless you were born of BlueAngel and then you are a Monarch Butterfly.

Tor

09-11-2006, 06:54 AM

It was sad to see KIA go. He showed a lot of promise as my protege. But that is how the world crumbles sometimes.

09-11-2006, 12:05 PM

Why anyone would pay for this is not beyond Tor. Now lets get this right: Tor is They and They is DamnTheMan and Shadow is not Shadow_, but is This who is also Barbarian who is also Tor, but who is not angelkiller who is Rockytoad who is the original Shadow who is KIA not Chevy who was never here who is most likly Mary Poppins little brother DamnTheMan who could not be Skanspiracy whos is the Fatman from Coronation Street who never has been the fake military Tor whose mommy is not or could be Blueangel.

Bouncer

09-11-2006, 02:18 PM

HUH?

All I know is, a low-level PSYOP gambit is the "Whispering Voice" which offers suggestions, reinforcements, and INFORMATION to those who are labelled "Psychic" and in fact are only virtual mules who deliver the laundered information to the authorities and/or other "Psychics" in the "Community" who are targeted for disinformation, or worse. This technique can be used at "Seances" so the context and expectations are perfectly tailored for "Hearing from another reality . . .", etc.

After all, most of us know less that the few who know more than the rest of us, right???

KIA

09-11-2006, 06:49 PM

Agreed, Bouncer.

These claims that I am someone else and a double poster are complete bunk. First off, I'm female, been through hell and washed over twice and not at all amused by this kid whose parents are obviously ignoring him.

I came to this site in a point of crisis, and considered leaving because the last thing I need is a Multiple cluttering up my mind with pointless and trivial attempts at self-reinforcement.

On one hand, I hope he works out his neurosis, but on the other hand, I wish he'd grow up and quit pestering the rest of the world like the spoiled and overprivilaged brat that he has proven himself to be.

Just wait - there will be another post here in a few minutes of him "lording over us intellectually" and trying to convince himself that his life actually matters.

Forgive me for saying this, but he needs to go shoot some Draino in his veins and move on to a better place.

09-11-2006, 07:34 PM

I did do that and I am posting you from Hell now. Of course since you wished it you will be joining me soon. I will keep a nice warm place for you. Hurry down.

Bouncer

09-12-2006, 01:54 PM

Um, any attempts at vexation will of course be subject to the three-fold law. Remember. :-?

Rather, Drano is for clogs, and his veins seem to be working quite well.

The mind, however, needs cleansing from time to time, and so I propose that a good stiff drink will help lubricate the constipated mind.
Hey, it works! Two shots and a game of chess, or better yet, read out loud from E. A. Poe until your hair stands on end.

Just don't do it around me.

:-)

KIA

09-12-2006, 02:39 PM

LOL Bouncer.

A drink and a game of chess sounds delightful.

Couldn't agree more.

As a side note to the original forum posting:

I had a breakthrough last night, everything has manifested in a nice place and the voices and I are in a more congenial relationship these days.

Whatever test I was going through, I apparently passed.

*cheers*

09-12-2006, 05:25 PM

I thought a Kia was a car! Do you feel driven or just run down?

KIA

09-13-2006, 10:06 AM

KIA is also an acronym for Killed In Action.

I had this name before the cars came out, and have no plans on changing it.

09-13-2006, 05:51 PM

So what action were you killed in?

09-14-2006, 10:53 PM

NOT 16.

09-15-2006, 12:43 PM

ok. your 15.

redrat11

07-17-2008, 07:30 PM

Now there are REAL MONARCH VICTIMS and there are fakers, such as CATHY OBRIEN and the rest, KIA I suspect is for real.

Clock_Princess

07-18-2008, 08:26 PM

Yeah, there is something pretty strange going on around here. I've seen some instances of double-speak more than a few times...