Hi there!
I cant open a topic yet, but I want you all to know that here in BRAZIL the H1N1 vaccination is about to go on ALL POPULATION. The media is pounding
the info that "is good, and people should take the shot"...
At least people wont be forced to have the vacine (that leaves me out right away). I dont understand why NOW...the "flu" lost the false pandemic
hype, but still they are putting that product (vaccine) in the Brazilian population.

Im just getting over swine flu, and whoa I can see how this killed people. I was diagnosed with it last Sunday, it and multiple secondary infections.
The previous Sunday I was feeling a little run down, but I wouldn't call it feeling sick, in seven days my health really went south. Everything
above my upper chest was infected, my throat, ears and I also had bronchitis with head splitting migraines so bad they cause blurred vision light
sensitivity and nausea.

"The state government of Sao Paulo launched officially on Monday the vaccination campaign against swine flu in the presence of the governor, José
Serra (PSDB). He said the goal is to immunize some 20 million people across the state."

Be sure that soon there would be thousands of news cases around here.
What a sad day.

Dont know how active this thread is,but seems like the h1n1 is making a comeback in australia and mexico.what is weird about that is this is about the
same time last year it first appeared and once again its in mexico i dont know what do you guys think....i got my info from www.yahoo.com keyword
pandemic and rsoe edis

Update: It’s One Million Children in the U.S. Alone, 30 MILLION Worldwide

Via: CNN:

Rotarix, made by GlaxoSmithKline, was approved by the FDA in 2008. The contaminant material is DNA from porcine circovirus 1, a virus from pigs that
is not known to cause disease in humans or animals, Hamburg said.

About 1 million children in the United States and about 30 million worldwide have gotten Rotarix vaccine, she said.

— End Update—

One million children have been injected with a vaccine that contains a pig virus that wasn’t supposed to be in the vaccine.

According to Fierce Pharma Manufacturing, Rotarix has been “contaminated” since its early stages of development:

I just got done with another round of it here in tx. It was mild only a day or so, although but my roommate and his girlfriend both had it. It took
them 2 days and 4 days to get over it. But it's makes you feel like death for sure.

I will reveal the manufacturers that dispense their H1N1 vaccines to Europe and the us what kind of toxic substances are in them. Secondly, I will
home in on those substances and expand on the nature of their respective toxicities.

Thiomersal (INN) (C9H9HgNaO2S), or sodium ethylmercurithiosalicylate, commonly known in the United States as thimerosal, is an organomercury compound
(approximately 49% mercury by weight) used as an antiseptic and antifungal agent.
It was invented and patented by Morris Kharasch. The pharmaceutical corporation Eli Lilly and Company gave it the trade name Merthiolate and it has
been used as a preservative in vaccines, immunoglobulin preparations, skin test antigens, antivenins, ophthalmic and nasal products, and tattos inks.
The compound is being phased out from routine childhood vaccines in the United States, the European Union, and a few other countries
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Here are two quotes from the CDC and the National Academies stating that thimerosal in vaccines is basically all fine and dandy

Thimerosal
“Thimerosal is a mercury-containing preservative used in some vaccines and other products since the 1930s. No harmful effects have been reported
from thimerosal at doses used in vaccines, except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at the injection site. However, in July 1999, the
Public Health Service (PHS) agencies, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), and vaccine manufacturers agreed that thimerosal should be reduced or
eliminated in vaccines as a precautionary measure. Today, with the exception of some influenza (flu) vaccines, none of the vaccines used in the U.S.
to protect preschool children against 12 infectious diseases contain thimerosal as a preservative.” Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
“Based on a thorough review of clinical and epidemiological studies, neither the mercury-based vaccine thimerosal nor the measles-mumps-rubella
(MMR) vaccine are associated with autism… Five large epidemiological studies in the United States, the United Kingdom, Denmark, and Sweden since
2001 consistently provided evidence that there is no association between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism… ” National Academies press
release about the IOM report “Immunization Safety Review: Vaccines and Autism,” May 18, 2004
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Regarding the first quote, if “no harmful effects have been reported from thimerosal at doses used in vaccines” then, while reading the next
sentence, why promote the push to eliminate it from vaccines? The quote of and by itself by its mere formulation is oxymoronic and therefore suspicion
raising.

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Here’s a Material Safety Data Sheet of thimerosal:
Primary Physical and Health Hazards: Skin Permeable. Toxic. Mutagen. Irritant (eyes).
Allergen. Nervous System and Reproductive Effects.
Caution Statement: Thimerosal may enter the body through the skin, is toxic, alters genetic material, may be irritating to the eyes, and causes
allergic reactions. Effects of exposure may include numbness of extremities, fetal changes, decreased offspring survival, and lung tissue changes.
Routes of Entry: Inhalation and skin absorption.
Effects of Overexposure: Topical allergic dermatitis has been reported. Thimerosal contains
mercury. Mercury poisoning may occur and topical hypersensitivity reactions may be seen. Early signs
of mercury poisoning in adults are nervous system effects, including narrowing of the visual field and
numbness in the extremities. Exposure to mercury in utero and in children may cause mild to severe mental retardation and mild to severe motor
coordination impairment. Based on animal data, may be irritating to the eyes.
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So what’s the meaning of these codes? The pictograms and hazard codes page indicates that T+ stands for “Extremely toxic” and N stands for
“Dangerous for the environment.” Does that sound like stuff you want to have injected straight into your system?
Here is a portion of the abstract of a new peer-reviewed scientific study investigating thimerosal neurotoxicity. It states quite clearly that
thimerosal induces autism-like neurotoxicity:

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Thimerosal-induced cellular damage as evidenced by concentration- and time-dependent mitochondrial damage, reduced oxidative-reduction activity,
cellular degeneration, and cell death in the in vitro human neuronal and fetal model systems studied. Thimerosal at low nanomolar (nM) concentrations
induced significant cellular toxicity in human neuronal and fetal cells. Thimerosal-induced cytoxicity is similar to that observed in AD
pathophysiologic studies. Thimerosal was found to be significantly more toxic than the other metal compounds examined
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Squalene

Squalene is a natural organic compound originally obtained for commercial purposes primarily from shark liver oil, though botanic sources (primarily
vegetable oils) are used as well, including amaranth seed, rice bran, wheat germ, and olives. All higher organisms produce squalene, including humans.
It is a hydrocarbon and a triterpene. Squalene is a natural and vital part of the synthesis of cholesterol, steroid hormones, and vitamin D in the
human body.[1] Squalene is used in cosmetics, and more recently as an immunologic adjuvant in vaccines.

Looks pretty benign, no? Well, that seems to be the case if you consume it through regular channels, that is by eating or drinking it. The situation
changes unfortunately when you have the stuff injected straight into your system. Now the substance suddenly is being perceived far from benign. You
see when injected, squalene is then registered by your immune system as a foreign substance, i.e. something that should not be there. As a
consequence, an immune response is triggered, meaning that your immune system will proceed with attacking squalene
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here’s the abstract of a scientific study which shows that Gulf War era troops suffering from GWS, whether or not they were deployed in the actual
Gulf War, almost all had antibodies to squalene:

Antibodies to squalene in Gulf War syndrome.
Asa PB, Cao Y, Garry RF.
Department of Microbiology, Tulane Medical School, 1430 Tulane Avenue, New Orleans, Louisiana, 70112, USA. PMBA@aol.com
Gulf War Syndrome (GWS) is a multisystemic illness afflicting many Gulf War-era veterans. The molecular pathological basis for GWS has not been
established. We sought to determine whether the presence of antibodies to squalene correlates with the presence of signs and symptoms of GWS.
Participants in this blinded cohort study were individuals immunized for service in Desert Shield/Desert Storm during 1990-1991. They included 144
Gulf War-era veterans or military employees (58 in the blinded study), 48 blood donors, 40 systemic lupus erythematosus patients, 34 silicone breast
implant recipients, and 30 chronic fatigue syndrome patients. Serum antibodies to squalene were measured. In our small cohort, the substantial
majority (95%) of overtly ill deployed GWS patients had antibodies to squalene. All (100%) GWS patients immunized for service in Desert Shield/Desert
Storm who did not deploy, but had the same signs and symptoms as those who did deploy, had antibodies to squalene. In contrast, none (0%) of the
deployed Persian Gulf veterans not showing signs and symptoms of GWS have antibodies to squalene. Neither patients with idiopathic autoimmune disease
nor healthy controls had detectable serum antibodies to squalene. The majority of symptomatic GWS patients had serum antibodies to squalene. Copyright
2000 Academic Press.
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Polysorbate 80 (TWEEN 80)

What is this stuff?
Polysorbate 80
Polysorbate 80 (commercially also known as Tween® 80) is a nonionic detergent and emulsifier derived from sorbitol and oleic acid, and is often used
in foods, especially pickles. Polysorbate 80 is a viscous water soluble yellow liquid. The hydrophilic groups in this compound are polyethers which
are polymers of ethylene oxide.
Polysorbate 80 is often used in ice cream to prevent milk proteins from completely coating the fat droplets. This allows them to join together in
chains and nets, to hold air in the mixture, and provide a firmer texture, holding its shape as the ice cream melts.
Other names
Polyoxyethylene sorbitan monooleate
(x)-sorbitan mono-9-octadecenoate poly(oxy-1,2-ethanediyl)
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Can it do harm? Yes, it can:
Polysorbate 80 in medical products and nonimmunologic anaphylactoid reactions.
Coors EA, Seybold H, Merk HF, Mahler V.
Department of Dermatology, Friedrich-Alexander University of Erlangen-Nuremberg, Erlangen, Germany.
Polyoxyethylene-sorbitan-20-monooleate (also known as polysorbate 80 and Tween 80) is a solubilizing agent ubiquitously used in nutritives, creams,
ointments, lotions, and multiple medical preparations (e.g., vitamin oils, vaccines, and anticancer agents) and as an additive in tablets. Whereas its
relevance as a contact allergen has declined during the past decades, it is of current relevance as a “hidden” inductor of anaphylactoid
reactions. OBJECTIVE: To identify polysorbate 80 (generally believed to be an inert vehicle) as an inductor of a severe anaphylactoid reaction.
METHODS: Skin prick testing, enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay, IgE immunoblotting, and flow cytometric detection of basophil activation were
performed in controls and in a patient with a medical history of anaphylactic shock due to intravenous administration of a multivitamin product during
pregnancy. RESULTS: Polysorbate 80 was identified as the causative agent for the anaphylactoid reaction of nonimmunologic origin in the patient.
Polysorbate specific IgE antibodies were not identified in enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay and immunoblot examinations, confirming the
nonimmunologic nature of the anaphylactoid reaction. CONCLUSIONS: Polysorbate 80 is a ubiquitously used solubilizing agent that can cause severe
nonimmunologic anaphylactoid reactions.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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Delayed effects of neonatal exposure to Tween 80 on female reproductive organs in rats.
Gajdová M, Jakubovsky J, Války J.
Institute of Preventive and Clinical Medicine, Limbová, Bratislava.
Neonatal female rats were injected ip (0.1 ml/rat) with Tween 80 in 1, 5 or 10% aqueous solution on days 4-7 after birth. Treatment with Tween 80
accelerated maturation, prolonged the oestrus cycle, and induced persistent vaginal oestrus. The relative weight of the uterus and ovaries was
decreased relative to the untreated controls. Squamous cell metaplasia of the epithelial lining of the uterus and cytological changes in the uterus
were indicative of chronic oestrogenic stimulation. Ovaries were without corpora lutea, and had degenerative follicles. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

We Brazilians are currently on the phase of vaccinating the young population (20-29). The media is getting desperate, I am beginning to see the lies
spreading across. Let me explain:

Last night on a big national media outlet (BAND) from Sao Paulo, the news stated the following: "The population is facing long lines on health posts to get the vaccination", this was said showing a line of maybe 20 people, most of them
being the eldery;
One person interviewed said: "If the research of so many scientists stated that we need to get vaccinated, we should trust them!" with the ancor of the news show praising
the interviewed for his inteligence.

Hummmm...
I thought that was FISHY at best.

Then just now at a local news show on Santa Catarina (second state to the south of Sao Paulo) they said: "Vaccinations on the young group of the population is way below expected, with only 30% of the group's population getting vaccinated across the
nation, with the same numbers regionally."

Guess what was the following topic on the news show? "Discovered a severe case of swine flu infection in Papanduva (small town on SC), the pacient is in intensive treatment for a week and his
condition is very serious."

BS

Why are they so desperatelly trying to get everyone vaccinated is beyond me.

In Sweden there is an investigation whether the "Pandemrix"-swine flu vaccine has caused narcolepsy (chronic sleep disorder) to six people. In
Finland there is doubt that Pandemrix has caused narcolepsy to one person. Cases are being investigated.

I got my combined flu shot a few days ago and after a day or two of minor discomfort and some dizziness, all is well. I would much rather experience
that than catch even the normal flu, let alone this strain. I've never had a severe reaction to a flu shot, and have suffered no ill effects from
them that I am aware of. I've been getting them for nearly 11 years now without fail.

I'm a strong proponent of individual medical discretion, and would strongly oppose any effort to make these vaccines mandatory. I think it should be
a carefully considered decision by everyone on an individual and/or family basis as to whether or not they receive this or any vaccine. Personally,
having health conditions that cause me to become severely ill when I catch so much as a cold, I always feel safer getting the shot every year.

Not sure if I have flu or not. I haven't been sick in over 1,000 days so am thinking it must be a strong bug to take me out of focus. Will keep this
short, because don't seem to be making too much sense in the last 24hrs.

The pandemic strain has diminished, and new research indicates it isn't more deadly (particularly to children) than normal seasonal influenza.

“The risk of most serious complications was not elevated in adults or children,” the study’s authors wrote. “Children were disproportionately
affected by 2009 H1N1 infection, but the perceived severity of symptoms and risk of serious outcomes were not increased.”

A seemingly absurd amount is quite safe as a one-off if you are not already on high doses of vitamin D.
(I just get a bottle of D3 capsules and swallow the lot when I get the flu.)
- A high dose is more than 4000 i.u. daily.
If you have been taking that much daily there may be no point in taking more now.

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