Why did you guys from FL buy Tenacity? It can't be used on bermudagrass, seashore paspalum, or bahiagrass. It's only labeled for St. Augustinegrass in sod production, not for lawns.

Just curious as to why you would have bought something like that in FL. It is labeled for centipedegrass, though. Do you treat much centipedegrass?

St Augustine is the Most popular fine turf in SW Fla.

You are reading an old label. Tenacity was labeled for residential Lawns and sold in 8 oz bottles to us as the Next Sliced Bread. It works but takes multiply treatments. It turns the weeds white which our customer want to bulk at. If you want to be retreating all the time then Tenacity is the herbicide for you.

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it is one thing to do a off label applications. It is total stupidity to post it on the world wide web and expect people to approve.

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You are reading an old label. Tenacity was labeled for residential Lawns and sold in 8 oz bottles to us as the Next Sliced Bread. It works but takes multiply treatments. It turns the weeds white which our customer want to bulk at. If you want to be retreating all the time then Tenacity is the herbicide for you.

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Tenacity was never labeled for use on St. Augustinegrass in residential lawns. Look at your newest label. Page 8 and page 12 specify that Tenacity is to be used on St. Augustinegrass for sod farm use only. This means no residential lawn use. Applying it to residential lawns is against the law. Has been since the product was first released.

But, I agree with you on the rest. It is a multiple app product and it does turn susceptible weeds very white. I've seen some customers who think the color is cool and some who hate it.

What do therest of our Tenacity users think? Do your customers like the white weeds or do they hate it (or do they not care)?

I can't get the link for the label to pull up from that website, John. It tells me that url is not available now. But, I am looking at a label from an 8 oz residential bottle as I type this. It's the same label that all the other containers have -- even the same label on the 30 gal drums. It says St. Augustinegrass is sod farm use only.

Not trying to get in a urinating contest about labels. I just didn't think Tenacity was a a big FL product. My good friend is a field research scientist with Syngenta in FL. He said that they gave distributors and sales reps specific instructions that this product is NOT to be sold to LCOs in FL for treating St. Augustinegrass. Syngenta saw LCO use in FL to be centipedegrass only.

Oh well. I always wondered how customers would perceive the whitening effect of Tenacity on susceptible weeds. A few more of these HPPD inhibitors are in the pipeline for T&O (already used in crops). I wonder if the whitening effect will change the way companies market these products.