Comments

Comment by thetacoman

As stated by Blizzard: This will drop of northrend mobs and randomly teach one of the new glyphs introduced in 3.1. We can assume that it will work the same way the emotion food recipes and the heavy frostweave banadage manual work - only people who are of a certain inscription skill will see the item drop.

Comment by Meloku

Actually, seeing as it's unbinding and rare, it's likely that it will be a world drop, kind of like the Jewelcrafting Designs that were added after release (except for a few specific ones).

Comment by Darkroot

Then again, Damaged Necklace is uncommon, has a req, is quite low drop rate and is unbinding, so this could be similar to that.

Comment by bluspacecow

Anyone got these to drop yet ? I spent 2hrs grinding for them in Howling Fjord the other day. Was before build 9704 that this appeared in tho so I might have to go back and grind again :(

Comment by Talindra

This has not been released yet. It will be released with 3.1.

Comment by gizmovision

Anyone got these to drop yet ? I spent 2hrs grinding for them in Howling Fjord the other day. Was before build 9704 that this appeared in tho so I might have to go back and grind again :(

is a PTR build so it would be the same as 3.1...this will allow confirmation of drops in what build at the least...

Comment by bluspacecow

lolz @ the guys above.

What I meant guys was has anyone got these to drop on the PTR yet

A PTR guildie of mine has - doing dailys in Sandragosa's fall (that place in Icecrown below where the Argent Tournament will be)

He give it to me and I got Glyph of Envenom.

Unfortunately the PTR went down for maintence before I could do a little grinding myself .....

EDIT They don't appear to be Bind on Pickup either as my guildie was able to give it to me ....

Comment by Enquillion

I don't understand why you keep rating him down. Until Wowhead provides us with some data this is the most useful information we can get. I for one find it valuable to know at least which mobs dropped them. It helps me establish a general idea of what to grind or not to grind - come 3.1 - to get these to drop.

Since you people consider his information redundant, you must know a hell lot of stuff about these books! Care to share it with the rest of us? =)

Comment by NemoUtopia

The problem is that as a likely WORLD DROP, comments about what drops it are not helpful. That said, you could at least wait to down-rank him until world-drop status is CONFIRMED. If it's not a true world drop, then the comments magically become useful! If it IS a true world drop, you can down-rank then for mass justice.

Comment by Enquillion

Aye, but haven't you considered there could be a minimum mob level required to drop it? I don't know if that's common or not =) if I see someone saying they got it from some level 69 mob in Borean Tundra then I'll happily give up, agree with you and delete my posts.

Comment by Enquillion

Aye, but haven't you considered there could be a minimum mob level required to drop it? I don't know if that's common or not =) if I see someone saying they got it from some level 69 mob in Borean Tundra then I'll happily give up, agree with you and delete my posts.

Comment by Enquillion

That's what I mean, maybe there's like a minimum mob level required (among the Northrend mobs) or so. I agree with what you say.

If you look at the Damaged Necklace you'll see for example that you cannot get it from Howling Fjord or Borean Tundra mobs (save two elites). This is valuable information for one who intends to grind an item. So until we have some data to look at I for one will be happy with any information I can get. =)

Comment by agavss

Added around 50 new glyph recipes. These new recipes can be obtained from Books of Glyph Mastery found as world drops on Northrend monsters. Reading a Book of Glyph Mastery randomly discovers one of the newly-added recipes.

Comment by agavss

Added around 50 new glyph recipes. These new recipes can be obtained from Books of Glyph Mastery found as world drops on Northrend monsters. Reading a Book of Glyph Mastery randomly discovers one of the newly-added recipes.

Comment by warican

You're not remembering on what they did with certain blues/purple recipes in the BC.

were you could only see them if you have that certain profession.. so it wasn't a world drop it was a certain MOB names that had it in there loot tables.

Comment by Valdamir

Frankly, I find the way Blizzard decided to handle this highly disappointing. With 50 glyphs to research unless these "rare" books drop far more frequently than most rare items, obtaining certain glyphs is going to be difficult/expensive for quite some time. Here's to hoping this "rare" item is more common than most are...

Comment by moiraine88

Has anyone gotten this to drop on live yet? I farmed hundreds of mobs, nothing =/ all over ice crown, storm peaks, and venture co for like 20 rounds.

Comment by cdaveb

Can anyone confirm if this will drop if you're not on an inscriber? I want to know if I have to farm it on that char or if I can do it on another that's better suited to the task.

Comment by psionic

On Live this is actually an Uncommon quality item.

Comment by Dysturbd

What did it drop off?

Comment by Ugar

Yeah, no. It's not uncommon. It's probably about the same rarity as a BoE JC pattern, if maybe a -little- bit less rare.

4 people have been farming for one since patch release. 7am, still nothing. :)

Comment by Syncness

Guess it's going to take a couple of months to see most of the useful glyphs on the AH for raiding.

Comment by SavAPlantEatACow

Its possible that I simply got lucky, however while farmin in Stormpeaks I got one to drop within about 100-200 kills or so. Confirmed that it is green quality. Does feel more rare than uncommon tho.

Comment by xyzlol

Just got one off a Drakkari Water Binder in Zul'Drak, green quality but I noticed in trade people offering quite alot for them.

Comment by Justine

There are 58 new glyphes!they can only be discovered by this kind of research!

Comment by chooochoo

what server r u on?

Comment by Shoreth

So as far as i can gather there is no confirmed singular mob for this drop and it will drop anywhere in NR. Well im betting this + a lot of patience and you could turn a nice profit go go Relic Farming.

Comment by ahmeth

I started farming right after patch and killed like 700 mammoths in stormpeaks... no book drop for me. :(

Comment by Travisty

Dropped for me on the 3rd or 4th mob I killed since the patch came out. I'm a Jewelcrafter/Miner too. Lucky I guess.

Comment by chooochoo

i have been farming for awhile now. 2 hours in stormpeaks. 2hours in basin. 2hours in zul'drak. 2hours in grizzly hills. and now about to head into the fjord. and i have gotten NOTHING...someone did get one yesterday and sold it for 500g on our server. but thats the only one we have seen so far.

Comment by moiraine88

Actually, some of them are trained.

Comment by moiraine88

Actually, some of them are trained... dunno why this isn't directly replying to Justine's post =/

Comment by grincognito

Any idea where you could farm for these? At the moment I'm just running around dotting mobs below naxx, Most AoE mobs usually don't drop loot. I tried the scourge outside DTK and some other places but they don't seem to drop loot. Hopefully there's somewhere I can AoE grind for this :(

I doubt this will be a actively farmed item, more like the old mage int books which were fairly rare

Comment by Cyrille104

I just bought one of these for 1k on the auction house, because I'd stand to make a lot more than that if I discover a good one. Unfortunately, I discovered an incredibly useless Marksman Hunter glyph. Just make sure you know you are gambling when you buy these =)

Comment by taliaz

I wouldn't say that, all the new glyphs that people want are learned through these books. and there's 50+ glyphs...

Comment by Decodelbanjo

One just dropped in 25 man Naxx, could be like the cooking recipies (tasty cupcake) that I've only really seen drop in instances. I'm gonna just keep doing heroics and cross my fingers. If you think about if the amount of people doing heroics lately was getting pretty low, this might be blizzards way to get people to do them again.

Comment by dandenoth

These aren't really something you can "farm" for, these are WORLD drops from Northrend, meaning all the mobs there have a chance to drop one, whether in an instance or outside of one. I have personally seen this drop twice so far, once while doing a group quest in Icecrown off the Jotunheim mobs, and once off some trash in a Heroic UP run.

If you really want more information about these, please download and use the Wowhead Client. The more people that do, the more information we can find here, and the more accurate it will be.

Comment by spire3660

Had one drop off a normal mob in Icecrown while doing Fleshworks quests. Sold for 1000g, I,m not a scribe.

Comment by magelan83

being the only one able to craft certain glyphs this early can make alot of gold im sure, im pretty sure people would pay upwards 3-5k gold for a single book.

and so far farmed since about when eu servers went online -the down time. about 7 hours solid grind in the cave northwest of frosthold.

Total roughly 50 green junk items, 2 blue items + 1 jc recipe 650~ relics lots of cloth and pots but still no signs of the Book of glyph mastery

Comment by NightmareMJ

as of 3.1 live, this is now an uncommon quality item instead of rare, drop rate is ~ the same as a lock box(may replace lockboxes on loot tables on drop, unknown).

Comment by gelda82

Would it be safe to assume that the books will world-drop from specific mob types, like how cloth only drops off humanoids and undead? Grinding may yield better results on some combinations, such as humanoid/undead casters or only mobs with mana bars.

Comment by Nazgul1015

Ideally, where would the best place be to "attempt" to grind for this book? Since it's a world drop, that means you could grind in any northrend zone, so ideally you'd want a low level one. But where is there a massive abundance of mobs in close proximity that are somewhat easy to grind?

Thanks in advance

Comment by gnorlock

I've grinded around 1000 mobs in hopes of this and the best area I have found is a bit south of the argent tournament area. Its the area where all the vrykul are dueling, also part of the shadow vault quests. I found out once you clear the 30~ people waiting there, there cannot be 0 mobs up at a time. When you kill all of the mobs 3 spawn up in a few seconds. Unfortunately farming even at that rate I had no luck. I did grab over 500g though /shrug

Comment by LafinJack

The emotion recipes drop from anywhere. My only cook got a drop while questing on the Forsaken beachhead in Howling Fjord, so no, those are not only from instances.

Comment by Jorroll

I've been farming the mobs in Onslaught Harbor for a while now. Roughly 400-500 mobs dead @ a guess and no luck. If anyone else uses this spot and get's one I'd like to know so I'm not wasting my time.

Comment by malovec

I have been farming these mobs at onslaught harbor for about an hour now non stop with my lock and still nothing.

Comment by malovec

I have been farming these mobs at onslaught harbor for about an hour now non stop with my lock and still nothing.

Now I am moving to the elite mobs in the hidden hallow I'll update soon.

Comment by pdub87

.... farmed for 7 hours? you must have a lot of time on your hands. lol

Comment by Seiru

While attempting to farm for this, I found after a couple hundred mobs, but still no books.

I consider this a bad sign.

Comment by malovec

after nearly 200-300 elite mobs in the hidden hallows i made around 400g but didn't get jack for books.

Comment by nerdrager

Just killed 1.5k frenzyhearts in their circle. No drop :/

Comment by Zaron

You can't farm for this item, you either have to be lucky or buy it off the AH

I can confirm that it is an uncommon Quality Item using the WoWHead Link function and viewing it ingame. Relinking worked without disconnect so it is correct.

Comment by Krml

Got my first Book of Glyph Mastery off of Ignis' Trash. Taught me "Glyph of Tricks of the Trade".

Comment by geeksun

confirm, just dropped from quest mob. im bs/mining

Comment by Rilgon

...if this "incredibly useless Marksman glyph" you refer to is the Glyph of Chimera Shot, then you're really shooting yourself in the foot by not selling it by the boatload. This is easily the most powerful MM Glyph added in 3.1, and anyone running as MM will be paying handsomely for it.

Comment by LafinJack

What did you expect? They're quest mobs with half the health of regular mobs, why would they have the loot table of a normal mob?

Comment by Latus

Seems to me the general pattern is that it can drop off the same mobs the the Heavy Frostweave Bandage recipie can drop off of. not confirmed but that seems to be the pattern so far.

Comment by hi7man

Comment by Benegesserit

I guess they only drop off monsters. Should stop killing the humanoids.

Comment by Casejones

I received my first one from the spirits for the Blowing hodirs horn quest in stormpeaks

Comment by Chuffy

At time of writing WoWhead lists this as a Blue Rare Item, however when I received one today (LIVE) it was Green Uncommon quality. Whilst this information won't affect the drop rate, it's useful to know when searching the Auction House.

Incidentally, mine was from a random Northrend lockbox

EDIT:

Blue Poster BornakkFix 4/16/09

The book of glyph mastery has had its drop rate increased

Comment by Alakar

I got one of these out of a Titanium Lockbox that dropped in Heroic Gun'Drak before the patch. Didn't get a rogue to open it until yesterday. I immediately advertised it in Trade chat and had 6 offers. Sold it for 1200G. The guy that bought it got Glyph of Explosive Shot. Hope I find more of these.

Comment by KrazyTrumpeter05

Do you have coordinates for this spot? I can't seem to find it.

Comment by mootwo

Summary to date:

(This information was gathered from wowhead, Allakhazam and Thottbot comments.)1. There are a total of 58 different glyphs that can be discovered through this item. (I'm not going to link them all.)2. It is BoE3. It can drop from Northrend Lockboxes4. Noted locations of discovery:

NOTE: This is all preliminary data. By downloading and using the Wowhead Updater tool you can help discover better locations for farming should there happen to be any. Good Luck!

Comment by wuphonsreach

Yes, if people would use the WoWHead addon - it would be a lot more useful then "I got it from X and sold it for Y".

Comment by Alakar

Just cause people post "I got it from X and sold it for Y" doesn't mean they're not using the WoWHead addon and uploading the info. I upload my data every time I exit the game.

Comment by OoLuXus

I just sold mine for 5,5 k :D

Comment by Hexx2

Guildmate got it from a Froststeel Lockbox in ulduar last night as well.

Comment by Brammer91

Found this book of glyph mastery today. Mine was uncommon green too.Sold immediatly after 2 mins for 2000 gold on karazhan Horde. got over 10 offers between 300-1200 g. and then the 2000 gold.Found this book in HC Oculus.

But easy 2000 gold for me. thanks blizzard (:

Comment by craus

On Kael'Thas Alliance it shows to be an "uncommon" (green) item not "rare" (blue)

Right now, at an inflated average of 500g-1500g per.

Comment by sicc09

I saw that post on Thotbott regarding runeweavers, I'm finding it hard to believe he found 2, but I'ma give it a try.

Comment by servook

In Grizzly Hills, in SilverBrook you can find the books of "Rituals of the New Moon".

Comment by drpibb

Droped for me in H UK, by a mob right before Ingvar The Plunderer. Just sold it for 2300 gold :). Im assuming that the price will drop in time, since it is only the 3rd day after the patch has released.

Comment by eris

* These are random Northrend drops, including Northrend instances/raids and lockboxes. Though there appears to have a level requirement on the mob for them to drop since no one has reported them dropping from Howling Forjd or Borean Tundra yet. Possibly a level 75+ mob requirement , and may even have a higher drop rate in heroics and raids.* They started off as having the drop rate of epics, but the drop rate as since been increased (blue post)* They are Uncommon (green) quality, not Rare (blue) as it states on wowhead currently (EDIT: Looks like wowhead has updated this)* They are BOE, can be traded/sold on the ah and will drop for non-scribes* Can only be used by scribes with 425+ inscription level and the glyph they will learn is a random, from the ones added in patch 3.1* Can be placed in Inscription bags.* Unlike inscription research, there is no cooldown to these books- you can learn as many as you want per day.

The cost of these varies according to server, but I've seen them from sold from 1000g to 5000g on mine. The glyphs these teach are very attractive and the actual glyphs are going for 100g to 3000g on the AH. Prices will definitely drop as more scribes learn these recipes and start undercutting.EDIT: They're selling for 500g-1000g on my server now, even though the patch has only been out for a day. Either the drop rate has been upped significantly (see point 2), or they weren't as rare as first thought.

Comment by hotchrisbfries

A guildy just got 2 from heroic Nexus and sold one in 5 minutes for 9,500 gold and another on the AH for 10k

Comment by sicc09

bought one for 2.2k from trade channel, said he got it from random mob in Scourgeholm, Icecrown.

Comment by Savage92

Comment by thetacoman

I can see these babies selling for 1k gold+, as the demand for the new glyphs ATM is incredibly high

Comment by Whispr

Just had one drop from a rhino in Storm Peaks by the Engine of the Makers.

EDIT: just had another book drop from rhinos

Comment by EnDsInRuBy

This is a GM post on the general forums by "Zarhym":

Perhaps our definition of "realistic" differs. If players find little difficulty acquiring Books of Glyph Mastery within 20 hours of the realms going live after the patch, then these new glyphs -- some of which are quite good -- will be everywhere by the day's end.

This might be a hint saying they are Raid Drops or Instance Drops - Unless someone can confirm a WORLD drop. Then i'm convinced their instance dropped Only.

Comment by MeOnFire

Yeah I just noticed that too. I'm sure it was a blue drop about a day and a half ago tho. People must of complained about the drop rate.

Comment by Wolvodin

I didn't even know of this book. Just got one from the gorloc's in Sholozar. on Zangarmarsh there going for 3500-4000 gold right now.

Comment by Banasou

Comment by tallerstory

Had two of these drop in a row during a UK heroic run. Although I was the only inscriber present, I thought it unfair to need when they're currently AH'ing on my server for 5,000g each.

So was extremely surprised to greed-win both rolls. This might indicate a bias towards Inscribers? Which would make getting them at least slightly less nightmarish? Any others with similar experiences?

Comment by hypertesia

So, the only way to discover new glyphs is with this book?

All scribers will farm those now..

Comment by Nizboy

fixed as of now

Comment by typ0

It's called luck.

Comment by Arcano30

Blue post states that it has been hotfixed and the drop rate increased

Comment by sskonis

Has anyone got any information on what these drop from? I'm going with the theory that they drop off all the same mobs that it's possible to get the JC quest from. So just curious if someone could give me some feedback and let me whats the lowest mob that they have had this dropped off?

Comment by Nugz

Just had one drop after grinding mobs at Snowdrift Plains in Storm Peaks for about an hour, had wowhead client running. sold for 2000g within 5 mins on the AH

Comment by Kuzzle

Seems to be a hot item, or someone on my server really wanted it. Sold it for 1000g on the AH within 2 minutes of listing it.

Comment by taliaz

One of these sold for 3k on our server and another was on ah for 5.5k, not sure if it sold or not...but it's gone now.

Comment by skarps

If I haven't completed discovering all of the glyphs through Northrend Inscription Research will this book have a chance to discover one of the pre 3.1 glyphs or does the book only discover the 3.1 glyphs? I'm trying to decide if I should hold onto the book, if I find one, until I've completed all the pre 3.1 discoveries.

Comment by Kanttori

"Use: Discovers a glyph recipe unique to this book."

Pretty sure it wont make you discover old glyphs. I havent discovered all of them and used 3 books, all of them were 3.1 glyphs.

Comment by Naselito

Got 2x droped lastnigth In uldaur.15min apart from diffrent hodir trash. Dunno If the drop rate is higher there, or if I and my guild were lucky.//rosesred

Comment by Karlhungus

Found one in a Titanium Lockbox

Comment by Redhandjane

The only real way to farm this is to pick a spot and kill everything in sight, rinse and repeat. I would suggest picking a type of mob that drops cloth or a type of meat that is worth farming on your server. This way you are doing something with the hours you'll spend killing.

Comment by Pwuebear

I have been farming mobs in the Icecrown Glacier (packs of Converted Heroes and Scourge Banner-Bearers) for half a day or so. Picked up several stacks of cloth, loads of vendor fodder, runic health and mana potions, greens and one blue item, two jewelcrafting necklaces (damaged ones), and a single Book of Glyph Mastery.

Running as a feral and packed with a Traveler's Tundra Mammoth I find myself pulling 8-10 mobs almost all the time and making a decent amount of cash as I go along. Not quite sure if I am just horribly jinxed on the drops (experience tells me that I am) so thus far I would call this a good place to grind a pretty penny but pretty poor on books.

Personally, I would rather see these drop off dungeon bosses or the likes.

Comment by Nahela

Should be noted that despite the hotfix, they still have an excessively rare drop rate.

You're still looking at a 1 in 1000 chance at best.

Comment by darcphnx

Found mine off trash in Heroic Nexus, just before the mage boss.

Comment by IceQueen

In Ice Crown Killed 30 Scourgebeak Flesh Rippers and got 1

Comment by Carlksjo

It dropped for me in Icecrown from a Jotunheim Warrior and sold on my sever for 3000g

Comment by renba7

Dropped off of Keristasza in Heroic Nexus for me...not shown on "dropped by" page.

Comment by Dizi

I got this while doing my Frenzyheart dailies in Sholazar. I was killing the Ogre's near The Suntouched Pillar. This data is merely to enforce the idea that it is dropping in this zone as well as from mobs that aren't the highest level.

Comment by Malosis

So do these books teach glyphs that you can't learn by doing the daily research?

Comment by zombieninja

Found 2 within 15min. Quite lucky.The spot I was grinding was in Icecrown, west of Shadow Vault. Theres mobs dueling each other with a great respawn.

Comment by Mazario

also been there for quite some time with no luck. Seems it is indeed really random.

Comment by Helore

Comment by Ninf

If I haven't completed discovering all of the glyphs through Inscription Research will this book have a chance to discover one of the pre 3.1 glyphs or does the book only discover the 3.1 glyphs? I'm trying to decide if I should hold onto the book, if I find one, until I've completed all the pre 3.1 discoveries

I can answer at that, my brother bought 4 books and never used Northrend Inscription Research, he got 2 new glyphs and 2 old glyphs(pre 3.1) so before using the books you might want to have all the old glyphs.

Comment by Azmodanrom

now it sells for 3000-5000g on some servers.

the price will do down, but not fast, and not too low

Comment by Jonner

dropped for me while doing The Sons of Hodir dailys by a Brittle Revenant..lets see what i can sell it for :)

Comment by Boynuz

World drop it is.

Farming a place for a day, and getting 2, then farming another place for 5 days and getting none doesn't mean previous place is the best place to get them.

It's green, means, every mob that drops a green quality item could have dropped this. No need to farm here and there, if you want to farm those, just kill everything you see.

Comment by Seniordk

Item found from Dwarves inside a cave in the northwestern region of Storm peaks.Sold for 3500g in the Auction house. Frostwolf Server.

Comment by jimmaps

I had on from a trash mob in naxx pug yesterday. Was very surprised to get an offer of 1000 g for it from another player. IF he didnt tell me that i probably would have given it for free :).

Comment by Groundead

Had this drop off of some trash in nexus, it seems it can really drop off of ANY mob. These also go for 5k+ gold on my server.

Comment by panteruka86

I got it and sold for 3000gold in my server. If you get one, its like you wont the lottery :) Got it in Stormpeaks, killing giants for the hodir dailies.

Comment by ithecho84

Just speculation, but seeing as how mobs in instances seem to have a higher drop rate on uncommon quality items, the best chance of finding one of these might be to farm an easy northrend instance. The question is, whether to farm level 80, mid-level, or starting instances.

Comment by hypertesia

One dropped for me in mili wing in naxx 10, from the first trash mobs.

Comment by Bjoolz

I have farmed for these in Ymirheim (Icecrown) simply because there are a lot of mobs there with fair respawn time and I had the entire place almost to myself. After two and a half hour of farming there and maybe 450-500 mobs killed, I got 3 of these books. I know its not any higher droprate from these mobs then any other mobs, but if you are going to farm for a world drop its a good place to do it.

PS: After more farming and some more books I would say the droprate is about 0.1-0.2%. Ofc this is just from my experience and its hard to tell since I might just have been really lucky.

Comment by malicioussmurf

I hate you. After 12 hours farming 74 elite Hulking Jormungar in Dragonblight, zero books. This may point towards a drop rate restricted to higher level mobs? Or it could be bad luck. (p.s., got 2 lockboxes in that period of time.)

Comment by Nees

Seems like a very rare world drop, as they are going for 2k on my server atm.

Comment by BetaFlame

I don't have the tracker for WoW Head, but I actually got one while doing Icecrown Ebon Hold Dailys. The quest I was working on was the one were you plant Ebon Banners on dead giants.

Comment by IceQueen

Had one Drop in Ice Crown from a Scourgebeak FleshRipper

Comment by NemoUtopia

Keep in mind, the price is artificially high right now as these have just been introduced. They are the ONLY way to learn the newly introduced glyphs, so every inscriber is after them. Because of their uncommon quality and specific nature , it will take a while for the price to truly stabilize on any server. That said, I would not expect the price of these to drop to 'average green' levels in the foreseeable, immediate future.

: As an example, on Moonguard the price of these has radically dropped already, but isn't 'low'. Upon release it wasn't uncommon to see people asking thousands (like 5000) gold PER. Now the price has stabilized to a certain point where the books are consistently on the AH for ~400g and you may be able to pick them up with in person sales/trades for anywhere from 250-600g depending on who you're talking to.

Comment by Whittall

Just got one of these as a drop from a Valkyrion Aspirant. Guessing these are a random drop of all mobs in Northrend.

Comment by crunchybites

It dropped for me; I am not an inscriber.

Comment by Incomingg

One dropped from a Mjordin Combatant in Ice Crown.

Comment by Silentsavant

If your not an Inscriptor and you find one of these in your backpack, sell it on the AH for quite a bit of profit.On my server the sell at a range of 2000g to 5000g.

Comment by Janettie

Kinda typical they'd pull something like this with inscription.

I am starting to feel sorry for those guys.

Comment by Chaosmaker

Note that the auction price of this item is wrong. It does not sell @ 5G but more @ 2KG

Comment by Bjoolz

Sell price is how much you get for it from a vendor, not AH.

Comment by Razu

Found one today while doing Polishing the Helm.Shortly afterward a guildmate was farming relics in The Forlorn Mine, two of them dropped within 5 minutes of each other

Edit: Selling for about 2-2.5k gold on Deathwing.

Comment by Solis

I am an inscriptor and found one of these in the Storm Peaks. I decided that 2k gold was more valuable than learning a new glyph. The new glyph I could make would not be worth 2k gold. Even if I could sell enough of these glyphs to equal 2k gold, I wouldn't I want to invest the time trying to do so. The cost of these books is going to come down significantly in the weeks to come. People will catch on and they will not be a “must have now, at any cost!” item anymore. I can wait.

Comment by Voljaa

I think my friend discovered an additional source of these earlier - they can infact drop from the Tiny Titanium Lockboxes that rarely rewarded from the new 3.1 Fishing Daily quests from Marcia Chase.

Comment by Restodruid

But there would be a lower chance for it to drop.

Comment by aneossino

I was in Ahn'Kahet Old Kingdom and 1 dropped...

we rolled for it and I got 99/100 :D

then I saw a million of people saying that they want it...

so I sat in the middle of Dalaran and /y : WTS BOOK OF GLYPH MASTERY...

BIDS START AT 2500G...

and in the end I earned some pretty nice and warm 4000g :D

$$

Comment by Zamoor

I have now finally learned EVERY single recipe added in 3.1 patch! Spent a lot on books, but now I have all glyphs discovered from books up on AH, Argent Dawn EU server. A mad thing to collect, but fun :)

...and the book seem to drop to high now, a lot of them in AH but I am still only one with 8 of the glyphs

Comment by Cathauan

I didn't have the WoWhead Client installed at the time of my getting this drop, but it DID drop from a Spitting Cobra in Heroic Gun'Drak today.

Comment by Gaghiel

A mate of mine had it drop from a "Frostpaw Warrior" in Grizzly Hills while questing there.

Not to be merely another "LOL IT DROPPED IN ZONE X", the collected information here leads me to believe it might function the same as the Damaged Necklace, Jewelcrafting item, only dropping in zones other than Borean Tundra, Howling Fjord and Wintergrasp.

Comment by terranor

I bought 3 today for about 50 gold each.I guess my serv is cheap :x

Comment by Sherriej

Loool was just relaxed and serious questing in Sholazar, (while saving gold for epic flyer)and such an sweet Croco dropped that book, sold it for 4,8k on the AH so that makes me laugh:PGoodluck guys and girls, and have fun :D

Comment by S7orm

Cult Researcher +1, i have the client but it's still at count:1 atm :)

Comment by Revengance

Doing guild run of Ulduar 10 man and one of these dropped from the trash mobs before Freya, there was a bit of comotion about what happensto it, either give it me as i'm the only scribe, or sell it on the AH, after a while i got it and used it and got a crappy mage one to do with Deep Freeze and i haven't sold a single one yet, so be carefull if your going to pay "x ammount" for this, just know the risk :)

Slightly off topic, but... The trash before Freya also dropped us 2 epics and a a few blues, strange :)

Comment by Anpipa

Comment by godchild

I'm not an inscriptionist.. It dropped for me in icecrown while working on dailies.

Comment by impossiblity

I'm really starting to %^&* off. People think that they can sell a book for 1500g and they expect you to make its glyph for 5g.

Comment by chris10218

going rate in my relm (hellfire) is 950geven though im a inscriptionist i might still have the urge 2 sell it if i find it

Comment by GagLV

I am farming these in Sholazar Basin at 66.51

I found already 3 books there and the time together that i farmed there could be around 5 hours if you don't count brakes.

Comment by pdub87

Grats to blizz on the worst possible implementation of new glyphs. On my server a few individuals have successfully monopolized the 3.1 glyph market by buying out all the books and selling the glyphs for 200-500g each.

The book prices were going for 2-3k+ after the patch, they have dropped down quite a bit now, however this is just allowing the monopolists to acquire the rest of their recipes even faster. No one wants to buy the books, because either (A.) they will get a useless glyph recipe, or (B.) They will get a good recipe, but will never sell any because the gold farmers (AH bots?) sit at the AH the entire day and literally undercut your auction in a matter of seconds. I sat at the AH undercutting one of these people, and he would have me undercut AGAIN by the time I would refresh the listing. And I have not seen him offline once.... GG blizz. Way to feed it to the china farmers.

Comment by Theremin

I got one off a Runed GIant (Level 74 Elite) in Grizzly Hills. I learned Glyph of Savage Roar.

Comment by Roofio

Id say these books avg at about 800g, i personally offer ppl abut 700 and 5 glyphs of w/e i discover to sell. Some of the glyph i have discovered can sell for over 100 each, specially when no one else has them. Ive discovered about 42 new glyphs, seems to work well for me

Comment by Pachirisuneytor

The book ony teaches glyphs added in 3.1, so you can safely use it without learning one from the NR inscription research

Comment by larthos

5000 Gold, Thats how much i sold mine on the Sha'tar EU Realm. Epic Flying in 15 Seconds xD

Comment by Leip

got 1 while questing in Zul'drak

Comment by nerflocked

Dropped of a scourge in Icecrown for me... 2nd kill or so.

Comment by karoks

got 1 today from random mobs on stratholme normal...

and i learnt "glyph of explosive shot"

Comment by Othernnus

Got 1 today from a random mob in Icecrown... Selled by 1300g on AH (Raganros)

Comment by Niaeruzu

I read these posts, and people saying what mob drops it... but we already know it drops from that mob! It's a Northrend-wide drop! It's not needed to post anything like that, only if it has any special info!

And it's scribe, not 'inscriptor' or something like that.

Don't know how much the drop chance is now, but I already saw a lot of 'em before the hotfix...

Comment by Pepthegreat

Dropped in naxx 10 from one of those gorgoyles in the start of the plague quarter today.

So , yes , it does not only come out of lockboxes.

Comment by hermeska

Dropped for me today off a Raging Flame whilst farming crystallized fire, a nice bonus for a couple hours farming.

Comment by Quasim0t0

When i was questing in Sholazar Basin and got it when i was killing 60 game animals (dreadsabre)

Comment by Ramrom95

This is a world drop, so dont go farm for them.

This book sells for a pretty good amount in the AH, i listed the book for 1200g, though prices dropped to the point that i had to put it up for 800g, which is still good.

The drop rate seems to be higher than before, i rarely saw these in the AH, now there are about 5 or 6 listed at the same time.

Comment by barthem

or maybe this is a radom world drop, you cant farm them

Comment by mrlenxa

Does anyone know what happens when you attempt to learn a new glyph from a book when you know them all?

Eg. with Northrend inscription research, you only created the secondary item when you've discovered all the glyphs. this way you knew that you had learned them all.

Comment by shadowxiong

found 3 so far, sold them for 1k gold each

Comment by Zamoor

When u have learned all new glyphs from the books, u get a message something like "You have already discovered all glyphs from this book..", dont remember but u dont destroy the book trying and u dont lose anything. Just a message.

Comment by Keirum

Comment by SpectralDaisy

I created a list off of glyphs listed on Wowhead & have a total of 57.

Death Knight:

Dancing Rune Weapon

Howling Blast

Hungering Cold

Unholy Blight

Druid:

Barkskin

Berserk

Nourish

Savage Roar

Survival Instincts

Wild Growth

Hunter:

Chimera Shot

Explosive Shot

Explosive Trap

Kill Shot

Raptor Strike

Scatter Shot

Mage:

Arcane Barrage

Deep Freeze

Ice Barrier

Living Bomb

Mirror Image

Paladin:

Beacon of Light

Divine Plea

Divine Storm

Hammer of the Righteous

Holy Shock

Salvation

Shield of Righteousness

Priest:

Dispersion

Guardian Spirit

Hymn of Hope

Mind Sear

Penance

Rogue:

Cloak of Shadows

Fan of Knives

Hunger for Blood

Killing Spree

Shadow Dance

Tricks of the Trade

Shaman:

Feral Spirit

Hex

Riptide

Stoneclaw Totem

Thunder

Warlock:

Chaos Bolt

Demonic Circle

Haunt

Life Tap

Metamorphosis

Shadowflame

Soul Link

Warrior:

Bladestorm

Enraged Regeneration

Shield Wall

Shockwave

Spell Reflection

Vigilance

Comment by koracow

It looked as though you missed:Death KnightGlyph of Dark DeathGlyph of DiseaseDruidGlyph of MonsoonHunter*Glyph of Explosive Trap*PriestGlyph of Pain SuppressionRogueGlyph of MutilateShamanGlyph of Earth ShieldGlyph of Totem of WrathWarrior*Glyph of Enraged Regeneration*

The glyphs marked with an *asterisk* are the ones probably only taught in books, whilst the others can be learned at the trainer.

Comment by Pascha

I posted all of the books as I learned them on our internal guild forums. Today I've hit the point where I get the message that there is no more to learn. Here they are, confirmed by me that they are in total everything learned from the book.

Total is 57 unless I've miscounted.

Death KnightGlyph of Dancing Rune WeaponGlyph of Howling BlastGlyph of Hungering ColdGlyph of Unholy Blight

DruidGlyph of BarkskinGlyph of BerserkGlyph of NourishGlyph of Savage RoarGlyph of Survival InstinctsGlyph of Wild Growth

RogueGlyph of Cloak of ShadowsGlyph of Fan of KnivesGlyph of Hunger for BloodGlyph of Killing SpreeGlyph of Shadow DanceGlyph of Tricks of the Trade

HunterGlyph of Chimera ShotGlyph of Explosive ShotGlyph of Explosive TrapGlyph of Kill ShotGlyph of Raptor StrikeGlyph of Scatter Shot

MageGlyph of Arcane BarrageGlyph of Deep FreezeGlyph of Ice BarrierGlyph of Living BombGlyph of Mirror Image

ShamanGlyph of HexGlyph of Feral SpiritGlyph of RiptideGlyph of Stoneclaw TotemGlyph of Thunder

WarlockGlyph of Chaos BoltGlyph of Demonic CircleGlyph of HauntGlyph of Life TapGlyph of MetamorphosisGlyph of ShadowflameGlyph of Soul Link

PaladinGlyph of Beacon of LightGlyph of Divine PleaGlyph of Divine StormGlyph of Hammer of the RighteousGlyph of Holy ShockGlyph of SalvationGlyph of Shield of Righteousness

PriestGlyph of DispersionGlyph of Guardian SpiritGlyph of Hymn of HopeGlyph of Mind SearGlyph of Penance

WarriorGlyph of BladestormGlyph of Enraged RegenerationGlyph of Shield WallGlyph of Shockwave Glyph of Spell ReflectionGlyph of Vigiliance

Comment by Lespaul1981

Just want to have a bit of a winge really:

Would it not be safe to assume that as these books are proffession specific, the only people who actually 'need' them are inscriptors? I have lost a number of these in groups as everybody rolls on them because of their percieved value. I have even been accused of being a ninja when I asked a group if I could need on one! Surely, in any group, an inscriptor should get first refusal of the item? Needing an item just because it is valuable is totally unfair - how #$%^ed off would say a Pala be if I needed on his epic plate drop because I can DE it and sell the abyss crystall for 100g on the AH? Or any piece of epic armour/weaponry for that matter. The item is for inscriptors only and as such should only be needed on by inscriptors. Why should we have to pay someone 400g for a book in the vain hope that the glyph we get will be rare enough to make some money on the AH, when we are the only people who should have them in the first place?

With any luck the market will soon drop out when everyone starts undercutting eachother on the AH and realises that the book isnt worth buying at 400g odd.

If you need gold THAT bad go and grind some quests or farm Stratholme for a couple of hours like the rest of us! Stop ninjaing OUR items!

Lespaul - Nelf Druid450 Inscription450 Enchanting

Comment by monkeyarms

just got 2 with in an hour, ive looted 4 so far in total all the same spot

Comment by rooter

I learned Life Tap last night through research. I have never used this item.

Comment by vectorkat

Right now on my server there are 25 listed in the AH going from 90-290g. Guess the drop rate has increased.

From Blizzard's profession page:"... the Inscription profession allows its practitioners, called "scribes," to enhance the spells and abilities of players’ characters..." (source)

Comment by voltare

I Had one drop in Mord'rechar in Icecrown off of a Plagued Fiend 61,63.

Comment by Entropyutd

I haven't seen it listed on here, but the book dropped for me from a Romping Rhino in Storm peaks.So it does appear to be a random world drop.

Comment by LoqueNahak

The achievement was intended for those players able to say SCRIBE instead of one of the random variations.

Comment by StephXGamer

I just got two of these within 5 minutes in a cave in Stormpeaks.... rofl

Comment by StephXGamer

I just got two of these within 5 minutes in a cave in Stormpeaks.... rofl

Comment by DomoArigato

I have max Jewelcrafting/Inscription on one of my level 80s but I don't roll need on BOE jewelcrafting patterns or books of glyph mastery. Why? Because they're BOE, which means they're of equal value to everyone in the group because you can sell them on the AH.

The books of glyph mastery can only be used by people with Inscription, but that doesn't mean you automatically have claim to it. It would be like, entering a contest with four strangers and winning a guitar. One of the four people you don't know claims to have taken formal guitar lessons, takes the guitar, plays a song on it, and walks off leaving everyone else with nothing.

If you weren't in the group, you wouldn't have a chance to get the item, so obviously the other four people deserve something in return. In a normal instance run, the return is that they also have a chance to get gear from the bosses of the instance because they're helping you, and you're helping them. In a run where a BOE world drop drops, the return is that they all have a chance to get the item, because it has a market value.

The book of glyph mastery is worth the same thing to everyone in the party, regardless of professions, it's worth as much as you can get for it on your server. When you learn the glyph that's contained inside the book, then it's no longer worth market value, it's worth a different value to you based on the glyph you learn. Gear is not the same, because gear is worth more to certain classes / specs than others and has no market value.

Sure, it's annoying to lose a roll on a BOE pattern when you can learn it, but it's much more annoying for people to assume that your time (the time you spent running the instance) is worth less than theirs (by assuming they have claim to something when it is of equal value to everyone else in the group) by A) needing the Runed orb at the end of a run (because you can buy them off the AH) B) needing BOE patterns or glyph mastery books, or C) being the designated disenchanter, then ninja logging at the end of the run and taking all of the shards.

Comment by Amrun

You can get this off of any mob in Northrend and the Culling of Stratholme. Sells for one or two hundred gold depending on your server and competition.

Comment by mixter

On my server the price got from 2k gold to 50g in just 2 weeks!talk about economy...

Comment by Latias714

It seems Pustulent Colossus has the highest recorded drop rate, at 5%. But, there are only 3 in the game, so you have respawn timers against you.

Comment by Lespaul1981

*sigh*

The item isnt worth hundreds of gold unless you pay it... I re-itterate:If an item drops in the presence of people who can use it they should get first roll on it... REGARDLESS of its percieved value by others. If no one in the group can use it then ofc someone can feel free to stick it on the AH for whatever they like... more fool the person prepared to pay it (especially if they felt they needed it so bad they went to a gold spammer to get it!)

Items such as Book of Glyph Mastery and JC designs are not put into WoW to make you gold! They are there to further proffessions!

Comment by penguin723

Incriptionatorist.

Comment by JauzKE

Hey guy's, i've just read the comments above and it seems that 1. the book sells for quite alot, i think i heard a 4200g price up in the comments 2. It's got a 0.01 or less drop rate 3. you can't farm it.

Well then this is the weird part, i started playing my warrior again and decided to go prot, iwas tanking H UP and one of the books dropped and i thought nothing of it and i wun the roll while the group /cry Q_Q, i haven't sold it yet but i will, but then something even more weird happened, while doing a daily in IceCrown ANOTHER book dropped =) if you don't beleive me then make a horde toon on barthlias pst vodkawhiskey i'll come to you and trade with you that's if i haven't sold them yet.

Btw i know prices are different on every server but how much would it normally sell for and if you don't know would it atleast be over 1k or above 2k and under 3k etc =)

Comment by pwiesty

Hmm i recently made a rogue and took inscription. I never had grasped how many books you actually need to learn all the glyphs (or to learn at least the 5 best-selling ones from those 50). i've had crazy luck on drops until now , i got 5 the same day while questing in icecrown on my priest (funny thing is i was questing for money). Got one from an elite (think it was Pustulent Colossus , had to kill 5 for a q - i do not say u can farm them i just happen to remember the mob who dropped it) and in the next 5mins (god bless epic flyer) i got one off a cultist just outside Icecrown Citadel (court of bones i think).

In the next couple of hours i managed to get another 3 off totally random mobs (yes yes i do know what a world drop is). I've also seen quite a few drop in raids / heroics , but none of the drop in a 78> zone , from a not-80 mob (might be possible tho). As for the price it seems it's going for 150-170g in the AH in my server with at least 30 in there at any given time & about 110-120g on trade from ppl who want to make fast sells or sympathize the poor scribe who has to pay that x 50 (although it's not hard to make money as one , my level 13 rogue with a skill of 105 had made about 120g from the glyphs i made to lvl -.- , just like jc - expensive patterns yet the gems from them go for 60-80g in my server , so i don't really know why they're whining - good investment?).

Comment by Tontel

To penguin723: I love you. Rfairney, LoqueNahak's method is the reason for your despair.

Comment by malmern

Goes for an extremely low price on my server (Burning Legion EU).

Goes for aprox. 25G.

Comment by Mentalpro

It just dropped in HoL HC from a Titanium Thunderer. I didn't win it.Does anyone know how much they sell for?

Comment by Opakh

For what its worth, just had it drop for me in Icecrown, on the platform where you find the Black Knight's body being worked on by the Cult of the Damned.

Comment by Eirwen

As of Patch 3.3, the average AH price for these is 60g - 125g.

Comment by kleinej

I just received one from a drop in Zul'Drak, near the altar of sseratus. Have not tried to sell it yet

Comment by electronicoffee

No much anymore 15g I've seen on my server, 30-40g on others at the MOST.Ones over that just don't sell anymore.. which is GOOD for scribes. Less greedy #$%^s NEEDING it.

Comment by Chungking

If I want to lvl 1-450 and learn all glyphs in 1 day, can I?

Below are questions, not answers. But if you provide the correct answers, this post and thus yours will be come valuable.

Talking about having all mats, and all Book of Glyph Mastery needed at hand. If I have understood correct, I dont need to do the 2 daily researches for XX days, if I have enough books, to learn all glyphs in 1 day?

If I do 1 of each research, then the rest with Book of Glyph Mastery, will Book of Glyph Mastery only/most likely proc only the "56 new" glyphs? Or will the book stop giving glyphs after "the 56 new ones" have been learned, and one has to do the 2 researches every day to learn all?

How many glyphs can one learn at the trainer? (Glyphs from trainer (T) ) + (Researched ones (R) ) + ( The "new 56" from Book of Glyph Mastery (N) )

or

(T) + (R) +( N) = how many?

Book of Glyph Mastery are at 7-40g on my server, ca 10g is most common so this is a profession I am concidering for an alt. Glyphs sell so good that the costs of Book of Glyph Mastery, inks used for this possible power lvling will be earned back within weeks.

Comment by Makhunty

Question:Is it like you can only learn a certain amout of glyphs from the books and then for the rest are exclusive to Northrend research or is it possible all possible glyhs can be learned via these :) ?

Thanks in advance !

Comment by Derren

I dont understand why people with inscription cant get something to make Book of Glyph mastery..

Comment by Ze0nite

Read and Write lots, Profit little.Truly representative of the IRL Scribe profession; Blizzard did an amazing job with this one.

Just bought 48 from the AH; they were actually cheap. Kids this days don't give books the value they deserve, sigh.

Comment by Pogmahon

As a scribe, I always need these items.

"Need" means that you really need the item to better your toon.

Although acquiring gold can be argued to improve your toon, there are hundred of other ways to do that. It should not qualify as a "Need" event. Rolling on something to make a profit defines "Greed" which is what people who are not Scribes should do.

When ever I win one on a Need roll, I use it there on the spot. So all will see that I have learned a new Glyph.

Just like BOE items in raids; most raid leaders insist that you equip it.

Same principal applies.

Comment by Greyslayer

Most experienced players in small groups subscribe to a very simple rule to determine need rolls. A need roll is justified if, and only if, you will use, consume or equip the item immediately upon winning it. Anything else is greed. If you roll need and don't immediately use, consume or equip the item, you just ninja'd it.

Comment by HonorGoG

The links above to a comprehensive list of the glyphs you can learn from these books is broken so I figured that I would tackle this task and I've come up with the following list. I only have 56 so far and my scribe only knows about 26 of these so if you see the missing glyph or have any updates, just let me know. I'll keep this listing updated.

Death Knight

Glyph of Dancing Rune Weapon

Glyph of Howling Blast

Glyph of Hungering Cold

Glyph of Unholy Blight

Druid

Glyph of Barkskin

Glyph of Berserk

Glyph of Nourish

Glyph of Savage Roar

Glyph of Survival Instincts

Glyph of Wild Growth

Hunter

Glyph of Chimera Shot

Glyph of Explosive Shot

Glyph of Explosive Trap

Glyph of Kill Shot

Glyph of Raptor Strike

Glyph of Scatter Shot

Mage

Glyph of Arcane Barrage

Glyph of Deep Freeze

Glyph of Ice Barrier

Glyph of Living Bomb

Glyph of Mirror Image

Paladin

Glyph of Beacon of Light

Glyph of Divine Plea

Glyph of Divine Storm

Glyph of Hammer of Righteousness

Glyph of Holy Shock

Glyph of Salvation

Glyph of Shield of Righteousness

Priest

Glyph of Dispersion

Glyph of Guardian spirit

Glyph of Hymn of Hope

Glyph of Mind Sear

Glyph of Penance

Rogue

Glyph of Cloak of Shadows

Glyph of Fan of Knives

Glyph of Hunger for Blood

Glyph of Killing Spree

Glyph of Shadow Dance

Glyph of Tricks of the Trade

Glyph of Vanish

Shaman

Glyph of Feral Spirit

Glyph of Hex

Glyph of Riptide

Glyph of Stoneclaw Totem

Glyph of Thunder

Warlock

Glyph of Chaos Bolt

Glyph of Demonic Circle

Glyph of Haunt

Glyph of Life Tap

Glyph of Metamorphosis

Glyph of Shadowflame

Glyph of Soul Link

Warrior

Glyph of Bladestorm

Glyph of Enraged Regeneration

Glyph of Shield Wall

Glyph of Shockwave

Glyph of Spell reflection

Glyph of Vigilance

Comment by Lurelina

Ironically, I had about 4-5 of these on my scribe, but I couldn't use them, so I just sold them.Ever since I haven't seen any drop for me at ALL

Comment by MMOSimca

Just a hint for Patch 4.0.1 - Keep ONE Book of Glyph Mastery around if you have them all learned, there is one new glyph coming via Books of Glyph Mastery:

Glyph of Colossus Smash

Just learned it on the PTR via a Book. It's a level 81 Warrior glyph, so it won't sell well since nobody can use it, but I imagine it will be useful at 85.

I spent exactly one hour killing the Saronite Shaper which appears to be on a 2 minute spawn timer for a total of 30 kills. I had better luck farming the Enchanting recipes with a lower drop rate in Icecrown than I did here. If you need these, DO NOT go trying to farm them as you will not be happy with time involved vs the auction house method.

A net profit of 57 Gold 74 Silver 66 Copper. Not a very good profit when you can be doing Argent Tournament dailies making more gold in the same amount of time if not less, plus getting all the miscellaneous vendor trash from mobs along the way.

Short Version: Don't farm these, just buy them off the auction house, you will save time, money, and many long boring hours.

Comment by Fourleaf112358

does anyone know if these will work in Cataclysm?for all the new recipes it looks like they are all trained (from Wowhead database)

Comment by bigwhey

I need to decide what to do with my glyph mastery books before Cata drops. Anyone know if they will work for the new Cata glyphs?

Comment by Thander

This book is still required for new scribes who have not obtained the 55 glyphs it teaches. There is no other way to get those glyphs. This item will also drop in Cataclysm content, so people don't have to farm old Wrath content. After playing with Cataclysm a little bit, these books are no longer Cataclysm world drops. (they were in beta)

Good luck finishing up your grind. So far I have seen them for around 500g each on my server due to the rarity, but occasionally someone will list one a lot lower finding one while leveling through Northrend and wanting to sell it fast. Keep an eye out, and farm lots of gold. I still need around 20 books to finish my scribe's glyphs.

Comment by elmerhead

Any alternative for learning these glyphs now that Northrend is almost empty and there are no more books in AH?

Comment by Scifi42

Do these drop in cata dungeos at all ? I still miss some stuff and I am 85 allready.

Comment by Chungking

To sum up my droprate experiences on this item: LOW.

Seen maybe 1-2 a week of clearing ICC 10/25(one could once do both versions), seen 1 drop from a random mob the entire WoLK/Northrend. And yes, I have played alot :)

In the start when I lvl'd Inscription, the drop was no better.

With Cata release, I have not seen 1 drop, not in Cata content and not in WoLK/Northrend(not been much in Northrend, but still).

So how are new players going to lvl Inscription and get these 56-60 glyphs from the books?

Enless farming on lowdroprates in Northrend, or off AH.

For each expansion old items become more rare, mainly(only?) due to players are no longer in those areas. So, this item will, and might even now be, a goldmine. That is if you have a stash of them.

Those who have stacks of these in GB's, don't sell them for less than 300-1000gold each atm is my advice.

Even if Inscription is a semi-pointless profession for a main(well, can a licence to print gold be poitnless?) someone will want to choose this profession, maybe on an alt and will want these books to get 100% complete.

You know, completionists :)

"All" this profession gives is a nifty shoulder enchant(and tons of gold), but you are better off going Engineering/Enchanting for max DPS, as engineering 'chants stack with other enchants.

Blizzard will have to at some point either decide this is no longer a profession for players and it becomes a rep thing/vendor thing where you can buy your glyphs(= best goldsink in game) or all 56-60 glyphs learned from the books can be learned in a different, more easy way?

So, if you are selling, don't wait too long to cash in on them, and if you plan on getting Inscriprion as a profession, 100g and under for these books are atm a steal, as selling glyphs for upto 250g each is a daily occurrence.

Edit's for poor typing

Comment by trixsterjl

I got extreemly lucky and bought like 50 of these book when there was a log jam of them for 20 gold each a year go. Got all the patterns and got to resell the left overs recently for 200 gold each.

Comment by Dreamsmith

Short Version: Don't farm these, just buy them off the auction house, you will save time, money, and many long boring hours.

Would if I could. I check every day, but haven't seen one for sale for a couple weeks now.

Unsurprising, since people just level through Northrend on their way to Cataclysm content now. I leveled six characters 68-80 and only saw two drops of this item doing it. With no one hanging out in Northrend anymore, just leveling through to Cata stuff, until these start dropping from Cata content, or dropping much more frequently in Northrend, it's just not possible to learn most of these glyphs now. If you didn't get your scribe leveled up and all the recipes before Cata, you're just screwed now. No way to do it anymore. Buying every book you can on the AH, if it doesn't bankrupt you (and it won't, given that even if they're selling for 400g, that's only about 400g every couple weeks you'll be spending, as they don't get posted more often than that), it'll still be well into whatever the next expansion after Cataclysm is before you learn all the glyphs (and if there's any particular one you're wanting to learn, it will, of course, be one of the very last the RNG gives you).

Comment by bkevol

Im in the same boat wondering how to learn these WOTLK glyphs from the books. my scribe was my 2nd level 80 in wrath, and even though i spent a year playing in wrath, i still only managed to get maybe 30/54 books to learn the recipes.. So now that leaves me 24 glyphs or so, that i cannot make ever ... will never be able to learn them.. ever.. . because no one does anything in northrend anymore besides alts power levelling to get to 78 to do cata stuff.

I think glyph mastery books should be for sale.. charge a quantity of rare northrend ink (snowfall ink) for one book.....That way we scribes can still learn the recipes. We could just go farm some northrend herbs for a little while, make/trade snowfall ink and get the glyph books.

Comment by lynchsta

As of today, the day 4.0.6 was patched in, these books now seem to be dropping outside of Northrend. I just got one off of a humanoid in Uldum.

Good news for scribes out there. :-)

Comment by Haestloli

Dropped today from Crown Technician (lvl83) Love fool quest mob in Uldum, think this means WHAT I THINK IT MEANS!

Comment by BrotheBear

Excellent! This must be why there is suddenly a load of these books on my realms AH!

Can't wait to learn Glyph of Dancing Rune Weapon!

Comment by huldu

Correction, you got one from a chemical bro. mob for the "love is in the air" event. They sadly have a wotlk loot table.

Comment by Juggie

These drop quite often from treasure chests located in high level Northrend zones such as Icecrown, Storm Peaks and Sholazar Basin. I usually check all the spawn locations marked by GatherMate2 addon daily and usually get 1-3 per run.Hope this helps anyone trying to farm these.

Comment by Just1Micky

But sadly offput the time saved with the haste rating in the 20 seconds it took to get out all the items from the bank and equip them? : P

Comment by BrotheBear

I'm sad now. :'(

Comment by Appren

Time to remove these glyphs from this tome, or seeeriously increase the drop rate, these things are just horrible to get hold of.

Comment by Gryffindor

Gosh I wish they would make it possible to learn these through a daily or some other means... the books are super expensive still and leaves a lot of glyphs unaccounted for.

Comment by rogermw

Nonsense. Everyone knows they're called Inscriptionators.

Comment by moopert

They should make them drop in cataclysm zones, not like a huge number of people are killing a high quantity of things in northrend anymore

Comment by cyberdreck

Are they worth more than 100G still? I tried to get a few but i guess its my server i wouldn't pay more.

Comment by fyfaendeluxe

Seems to have a ~1% droprate from Converted Heroes in Icecrown, I've been farming them for cloth for some time and gotten 12 books from about 1300 kills.

Not much, but probably the best spot if you want/need to farm these.

Comment by gamerNgeek2

I found mine in a treasure chest sitting in the middle of the jungle in Scholazar.

Comment by LazyRiver

They drop in Northrend dungeons now and again. Both heroic and regular. Put it on AH for 125. (I'm sometimes kind that way...lol) Sold like lightning.

The other two sellers were asking for a thou apiece. Have no idea of the average price though.

Comment by MiQueL

On Saurfang they costs like 800-1200 gold each.. :s It's sick price for those

Comment by Chaga

As of 4.2 all glyphs learned from the books will be discovered through research too.The books will just speed up the process, instead of providing exclusive glyphs.

Comment is outdated, and the fix has not been implemented as promised.

Comment by Uinri

SCRIBE!

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Comment by Aleo11

I usually do 1-2 treasure runs a day and find maybe 5-7 treasure chests in one day. The zones I go thru are Sholazar Basin, Icecrown, Crystal Song and Stormpeaks. From my own experience, I'd say its about 1 in 7-8 I would get a Book of Glyph Mastery. Some days I get two books. Some days I get none. To fly thru each zone it probably takes 10 minutes per zone.

To make this easier on myself, I've downloaded Gathermate2 mod and imported Gathermate2_data. However, Gathermate does not have Maplewood Treasure Chest in their data info. They only have Sturdy Treasure Chest. Sholazor Basin and Crystal Song only have Sturdy treasure chests the route is straight forward by looking at the map. Icecrown has 4 Sturdy Treasure chest listed in Icecrown, but it is mostly Maplewood Treasure Chests, you can use wowhead and search maplewood treasure chest to help you locate those and to design a route you can use. Stormpeaks is mostly Sturdy but there are a few Maplewoods.

Comment by Mais

Will you provide a way to speed up the acquiring of glyphs usually acquired through research and glyph books? Glyph books (Book of Glyph Mastery) are hard to come by now that people spend so little time in WotLK content. - Furlqt (NA/ANZ), 에르네스트린덴만 (KR), Kånê (EU-ES)

Yes. We will be changing the discovery spells so they can teach all possible glyphs, and the books will simply provide a no-cooldown method to do the same thing.

Comment by Shang619

Cant need on these anymore if your trying to grab it for an alt... 4.2 patch made all BoE items soulbound if needed on in a Need Before Greed situation (all dungeon finder groups).

Also, The main Inscription page Inscription states "Currently, scribes learn specific recipes through Northrend Inscription Research, Minor Inscription Research, and Book of Glyph Mastery from Northrend; this will be revamped in 4.2." ... Has anyone noticed this revamp yet? And if so, What is it?---Answered my own question by reading above...DUH....Although it seems, it's not quite confirmed or implemented in game, that glyphs from Book of Glyph Mastery can be learned from Northern Inscription Research.....Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Comment by animi

Best place to try and farm these is CoT: Strat. The gauntlet on the backside respawns elites that drop them. Just don't talk to Arthas and you can farm them all day w/o having to reset the instance.

Comment by Damonra

I just spoke to GameMaster Aslyetaii on a separate issue. Bringing up some recent topics on this thread, (s)he has told me that learning the glyphs from the Book of Glyph Mastery is still the only way to learn them. He said it was supposed to make it to the game where they can also be learned through the Northrend Inscription Research, but never made it live. He only said that it was, "undone," with out any true explaination. He had thoughts as to why, but nothing positive or verified.

I had asked about them dropping only in Northrend, and he replied saying he was walking a fine line and could not comment specifically on that. Only that the drop locations have not changed.

He could not give any information as to when or how any future changes will be made to this.

Comment by rbx3

Inscription is a nightmare right now. These books go for 2k to 8k on my server, and with one I get the terribad Glyph of Life Tap. Given that this profession makes little money now, it's time to change it.

Comment by Shaman4life

I remember End-Game WOTLK this were in the AH for 30g a pop and I could get 2 per dungeon on my scribe. Glad I was smart enough to do it then because, now the darned things are like 500g. Lalalalala that sucks.

Comment by Jakathera

Blizzard really needs to change the drop rate, or add them to cataclysm. 800+g a pop on my server as of 4.2... quite a disappointment if you just leveled your scribe in cataclysm.

Comment by lindascholtens

Is it just me being unlucky? or is it less likely the books drop when u dont have inscription on the char u are farming with.I did 14x utgarde pinnacle :0 books but got blue proto drake instead.. not bad.And i have spend several hours in the culling of stratholme and again 0 books.

Prices for the books are around 500g on nordrassil aswell.that would be 27K to learn them all. The "rare" (thanks to blizzard) glyphs are around 200g... wich means i could buy 135 glyphs for the same gold....If nothing is going to change, i recon the rare glyphs will be around 1K by the end of this year, making it impossible for new players to even think of buying glyphs at lvl 25. (wich allready is the case)way to go.

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Comment by binarywoman

I'm curious...I saw that it says above, that these books can be obtained from lockboxes. I have a scribe that I'm wanting to "farm" these for, but on my rogue. Can I pickpocket humanoids and get them via those boxes? I haven't gone around pickpocketing a lot lately, I may try it out. I was just curious if anyone else has tried this.

Comment by janekeck

This book dropped for me twice in Storm Peaks within a two day period.

Comment by interimus

These items can be sold for maximum value. Abyss crystals from gear that one ninjas from another player and DEs cannot be sold for maximum value compared to the epic item you sharded. As such, if you roll need on this item in my group, I will vote kick you, and 9/10 of the time the others will agree. Have fun re-queing.When greens drop, the enchanter does not say "I can DE that and I need the mats for my profession. May I please roll need?"When the Battered Hilt drops and everyone rolls need, does the undergeared ret pally get pissed off and say "wtf I need that for my mainspec!"? Usually no. Why? Because it can be sold for maximum value.

If you need it, you can buy if from the AH. It is not bop.

Comment by GravenTerenas

Broken profession is still broken? How characteristically professional of them. :p

Comment by Suuon

Just had one of these drop in Icecrown, only other on AH selling for 1000 gold. Seems somewhat unfair for poor scribes having to pay such outrageous prices for new glyphs.

Mind you this is the first one I've ever seen drop and I've taken down hundreds of mobs in the area.

Edit: 12/5/11 - As I was coming back to view this post, it made me think about other professions, namely EC and BS, since those are my mains two maxed out professions. There is rarely a day that goes by, when there is not a world drop plan or enchant available; however, the cost of these are anywhere between 7k-25k a very substantial amount of money.

This cost makes the common 1000 gold per book much, much cheaper, but yet the rareity of these items are much higher. Is this due to the random nature of the possible Glyph that may be learned? Or is it due to the low number of scribes compared to other professions, thus lowering the demand and so the price?

I'd be interested to hear from any scribes reading this to help answer this question.

Comment by Mort1982

As of 4.2 all glyphs learned from the books will be discovered through research too.The books will just speed up the process, instead of providing exclusive glyphs.

This is an outright lie, he is either misinformed or trolling. I tried both researches minor and northrend research over the past 5 days and got nothing. I have every glyph except for the ones from the Book of Glyph Mastery. You still need the Book of Glyph Mastery to learn all of the glyphs that are only available from them, there is no other way to learn them even in 4.3.

Will you provide a way to speed up the acquiring of glyphs usually acquired through research and glyph books? Glyph books (Book of Glyph Mastery) are hard to come by now that people spend so little time in WotLK content. - Furlqt (NA/ANZ), 에르네스트린덴만 (KR), Kånê (EU-ES)

Yes. We will be changing the discovery spells so they can teach all possible glyphs, and the books will simply provide a no-cooldown method to do the same thing.

This statement was made on 5/16/2011 almost 5 months ago, along with a lot more answers that apply to many things that still have yet to be implemented if they ever do. It was simply a set of answers to shut people up and let people know what blizzard is planning, there is no set patch as to when this will be implemented so keep an eye on the patch notes.

I cannot imagine that people do not want the truth but yet this post continually gets down-voted as of now it is impossible to learn the glyphs that are learned by the use of Book of Glyph Mastery by any other means. I have been a maxed scribe since its inception and I am still missing some of the glyphs because the drop rate on the Book of Glyph Mastery is just to low. As of 4.3 some of the things that were listed in the http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2522165843 were added; however the part about Northrend Research giving the glyphs that are learned by the books is not one of the things that was added... and the wait continues. As of 4.3.3 still no change. I have learned all of them since 5.0.4 hit from research these books simply speed the process along now.

Comment by P0tt3r22

On my server (The Forgotten Coast) it sell for 6k+.

Comment by P0tt3r22

Why anybody will downvote a comment who saying the price of the book on a server? Get a life!

Comment by Mort1982

On my server (The Forgotten Coast) it sell for 6k+.

Why anybody will downvote a comment who saying the price of the book on a server? Get a life!

I down-rated both you your posts. For the simple reasons below:Any comment like this is absolutely redundant because if you really cared about updating the buy out price that is listed on the site you would be running Wowhead Client which would do it automatically for whatever server you are on. If you think it is only people with no life down-voting your posts then the best thing to do is to simply remove them instead of basically calling them losers.

Comment by Derren

Will you provide a way to speed up the acquiring of glyphs usually acquired through research and glyph books? Glyph books (Book of Glyph Mastery) are hard to come by now that people spend so little time in WotLK content. - Furlqt (NA/ANZ), 에르네스트린덴만 (KR), Kånê (EU-ES)

Yes. We will be changing the discovery spells so they can teach all possible glyphs, and the books will simply provide a no-cooldown method to do the same thing.

Comment by Samphis

I just checked the 4.3 PTR, flagged as "RELEASE," and Northrend Inscription research taught me nothing new. Minor research taught me the Glyph of Shadow, but that was confirmed as being a new, minor glyph.

I see no method of purchasing the books from the ink trader, and there's nothing new on the trainer for me. On Live, I'm missing about 26 of the book-only recipes.

It looks like no changes are coming any time soon.

Comment by dennisl69

dont buy 500g for 1 glyph reciept unreal i wont make that mistake again learn 1 a day through your research

Comment by Mort1982

these sell for a minumum of 1000g

They are on the AH for that much, they do not sell for that much unless people are really desperate. It is the same thing with high priced weapons and armor they may be up for 17,000G-30,000G but are they selling for that much? No because on average people are not willing to buy things that are that high. Look at the average buyout at the top of the screen that is based on everyone that has bought the books that runs the Wowhead Looter add-on and what they paid for it; that is why it is so redundant for people to post that these books are going for 1,000-10,000k G because they are put up for that much not "going" for that much.

I think its kind of sad how many times this same post gets up and down voted. You all know its the truth and that is why it is one of the rules that when someone posts something like "This item sells for XX,XXXG on "Server Name Here"." you are supposed to report it for removal. I wish there was a counter on this post to show me how many times it has been up and down voted because I would say it gets upped 3-4 times a week and downed the same amount. lol

Comment by Mort1982

dont buy 500g for 1 glyph reciept unreal i wont make that mistake again learn 1 a day through your research

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Please edit that so that it forms a complete sentence.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I can only assume that you used a book and got a glyph that you could have gotten through research?

Comment by Chimerian

Well I'm not sure about that! The Wowhead page for the Vial of the Sands gives a buyout price of 25g, that looks like a *1000 multiplier is missing! :) OK, maybe I'm a bit stiff, but I have never seen it on any AH less than 17000gp. Or maybe it's an odd, but what I'm trying to say is that sadly, the buyout price here is only suggestive, and "your" price depends on the realm more or less.

Comment by Atago

2 Books for sale in AH on my server. 1.3k and 4.9k lol. think i'll pass for now

Comment by chilsamo

I spoke to a GM today about this after 10+ consecutive failed attempts with both Northrend and Minor Research. I was informed that the discovery spells only provide a low chance to learn a glyph that's supposed to be learned from a book. Link to screenshot of part of the conversation below.

Comment by Adraunn

The Book of Glyph Mastery is actually a topic we’ve been discussing in our meetings. I can’t make any promises just yet but can at least acknowledge that we’re tossing around ideas for the book and for researching new Inscription glyphs.

There has been quite a bit of honest and reasonable feedback. I appreciate all of you for sharing and for being patient while I worked to follow-up with the developers for more information.

Back in May of 2010, we began tossing around ideas about how to improve Inscription. But at that time, Mists of Pandaria was still in the early stages of character talent development. As that was hashed out, it directly affected how we were then able to approach potential Inscription and glyph changes. As a matter of fact, at one point during the discussions, glyphs were going to be removed altogether. That then evolved into the idea of Prime glyphs being removed, Major glyphs being adjusted such that their added bonuses did not affect talents, and Minor glyphs being revamped so they felt more interesting.

Have no fear, I have been assured that Inscription and glyph discovery are being actively discussed in preparation for upcoming changes with Mists of Pandaria. This comes with one albeit relieving caveat: Glyphs that are now learned solely through the Book of Glyph Mastery are planned to be available through the Northrend and Minor research dailies.

Comment by apolojulius

While farming mats for enchanting and tailoring I acquired 4 of these books in Utgarde Pinnacle Normal within 6 runs.

Comment by LaCrysta

Has Blizzard has increased the drop rate on these? I've seen one over several months of playing, but I saw three this past week; or maybe it's because of all the extra things I've been killing to farm for Lovely Charms.

Comment by stavener

Warning: This book is usable ONCE!

I didn't know this before I spent 1900g at the auction house.Totally not worth it.

Comment by alexandra24

I found two while farming Frostweave Cloth close of Aldur'Thar in Icecrown. One I found while farming the cultist in the little place. The second one, while farming the cultist I found a chest, and opened it and inside was Book of Glyph Mastery, so yes just doing your stuff and doing what you basically do in Northrend, you can find some. Don't farm for them for long, because you'll probably find them when you'r not expecting it :) Good luck =D

Comment by lucetak

I can confirm that Glyphs that are were previously learned solely through the Book of Glyph Mastery are now available through the Northrend and Minor research dailies. Correction: The minor research only produced one additional glyph. The second try only gave a scroll, so I presume it's just the Northrend research that will continue to teach glyphs.

Comment by Beefstew

This is for anyone looking for these books by farming the treasure chests in Northrend.

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Comment by FzyForced

As of 5/6/2012 the Northrend Inscription Research does allow you to learn new glyphs. I just leared a new one and I was prev maxed on the glyphs learned from doing the research.

Comment by Tealgod

I've started farming the chests in all the zones in northrend about 2 weeks ago so I figured I'd put up what I found out (low pop server).

There are 4 chests possibly up per zone (besides landing + forest, they each can have 1 up)Fleshwork 3 possible spawns are affected by phasing (my mage did all icecrown and can't see them).Another phasing spot is Scourgeholme. If you don't do the quests for Scourgeholme you won't be able to see the 3 spawns there.Respawn for 2 chests seems to be ~8 hours total, don't know exactly how long to get all 4 up. On my first run (morning) I get 3-4 per zone, and then 2 on the second run after 8 hours. I don't do a second run so with at most 16 hours most will be up.I've gotten the landing chest over a large amount of time while doing tournament dailies. While farming over the past few weeks I would NEVER see them after 8 hours, but I did see one after 11 hours, and then didn't see one about 12 hours after that. So I'd suggest it's about a 12 hour respawn.There is also a maplewood chest missing on hrothgar's landing's map. It is on the ship where you do Ornalf the Scarred at 59.2, 31.6.Server restart/maintenance restarts any down (wouldn't know about up since I tend to get em if they're up, though I'd suggest they despawn) chests including their timers themselves.The two chest points west of the tournament grounds in icecrown (Deathspeaker's Watch) count as the landing chests, so check there if you haven't gotten the 1 landing chest.

Comment by Faell

I decided to farm chests for all zones in Northrend and collect some data. If you want to do this, I highly suggest you download the mod GatherMate2 and GatherMate2Data as it will place spawn points for all chests on your map. The only thing you need to be aware of is that some locations are underground in caves, which the mod will not indicate.

It takes me approximately 60-70 minutes to do a complete run of all chest spawn points for Northrend. There may be room for a little improvement but I'd say it's going to be about an hour once you know all the locations and have a set flight pattern.

I have encountered anywhere from 0-4 chest spawns in multiple zone. You may safely disregard previous posts claiming only up to 2 chest per zone.

Doing 10 runs, one in the morning and one in the evening after chests had time to respawn, I received 96 rare armors or weapons, 13 rare jewelcrafting designs, and 10 books of glyph mastery. That is an average of about 1 book of glyph mastery per hour farming chests. I would imagine more data collection would yield similar results.

You can safely disregard previous posts claiming 3 books of glyph mastery every time they farm chests in Northrend. While it is possible to receive 3 books of glyph mastery in one run, that will ceratinly not be your average.

My analysis is that mass killing mobs or farming chests will likely yield about the same results, so do whatever you prefer or both. The benefit of farming chests is that you will also get rare jewelcrafting designs, armors, and weapons that can be sold on the AH. The jewelcrafting designs still sell for a fair amount. The benefit of mass killing mobs (and there are several especially good places in Icecrown) is that you can sell the frostweave cloth on the AH and also have a slim chance to come across the much sought after Super Simian Sphere.

Update: GatherMate2 does not include the location data for maplewood chests as of 6/23/12. It is a known issue with the mod. If you were to hit all those chests, add another 30-45 minutes to your fly time. Your average collection rate will probably stay about 1book/hour.

Comment by xaratherus

Short answer to the question, "How do I farm these things easily?"

You don't.

I looped through the chests in Northrend today and out of 12 chests found, none of them contained glyph books. I have yet to try mass-farming enemies, but given that it's a random drop, it's not really "farming". I'm glad Blizz has said they are going to revamp this in MoP; as it stands, the only "reliable" way to find these is to buy them off the AH whenever you see them.

Comment by greensoul

I've been farming this out of Pit of Saron, the icc lvl 80 dungeon. With my Blood DK I can clear this instance in about 12-15 minutes in normal mode. I've been getting 1 of these books every 4 runs, in a couple hours I had 4 already, they drop of any mob in the place, so make sure you kill everything. So, if there's a way to "farm" these things, that dungeon is your best choice.

Comment by Solaire

I always get really happy when I get a new book :)

Comment by DanielVieira

someone down the list said Icecrown is bad for farming this book and listed the "best options". the thing is, although the options listed do have high drop rate, they are quite rare mobs (the worms of storm peaks, the rune weavers of grizzly hills, etc), so unpractical to farm. the Convcerted Heroes of Icecrown have a lower drop rate, but they fill an enourmous area in packs of up to 8 mobs, easy to kill at 85, with fast respawn and they also drop a lot of greens and cloth. farm them with a tailor/enchanter, and each time you fill your bags compact the stuff disenchanting and making bolts of cloth, and continue farming. by the time you cant compact any more stuff and go back to a city, you'll have a ton of materials to sell and (likely) a Book of Glyph Mastery or 2.

Comment by Dreadmight

With the release of patch 5.0.4 the value of these books will be going up drastically, as there is a whole class' worth of glyphs to learn, along with the new major and minor glyphs that are being introduced. My suggestion if you have any books is to sell it at a good price, as demand is prime right now.

Comment by Kevlan

I finished up all my research glyphs long ago on my scribe, but didn't ever gather enough Books to finish those spells. This morning, post 5.04 launch I did a Northrend Inscription Research and learned the Glyph of Stampeding Roar. That's one that used to be available only through the books. I have a second scribe on another realm and he made a Glyph of Hammer of the Righteous this morning - Another that used to be learned through books.

Based on this, they must have changed something in the research process and not documented it. Excellent news!

Comment by Zlanya

I can confirm that glyphs that previously required a Book of Glyph Mastery to learn can now be learned through Northrend Inscription Research (). The only advantage the books offer at this point is speed - there is no CD, so you can learn more than a glyph a day.

Comment by Ligarth

Following the 5.0.4 patch, I have just used the to learn , so it looks like we are finally free of relying on these books.

Edit: Not quite sure why this is being downrated, useful confirmation that my char was able to learn a glyph that was previously only available from the Books of Glyph Mastery, perhaps it's people still trying to get high prices for the books.

Comment by cracklingice

I would like to add that while you can discover the glyphs in these books with research, you can not discover research glyphs with these books. Good thing I just bought 14. >:-\

Comment by crackface

it appears northrend inscription research now allows you to learn what these overpriced books use to teach.

Comment by jahf

I wanted an easy way to track which -researched- glyphs I have learned so far. While such a resource might exist, I didn't find one that was accurate as well as easy to use.

Is a particular glyph trainable (if so, it won't be listed, I only listed researched glyphs)

If it is a researched glyph it should tell you which type of research is needed to get it

If you are tracking your own glyphs, feel free to make a copy of the spreadsheet. I protected all but the "Comments" sheet so that no one can completely screw it up.

Since you no longer need Books of Glyph Mastery for any Northrend glyphs, I didn't bother to break that out nor do I say what skill level each glyph requires to learn. Don't forget that now you can learn Northrend glyphs from Scrolls of Wisdom, too.

Hope it is helpful for others. If so leave a comment here, uprate this comment, or leave a comment in the sheet.

(reminder: you now can learn Northrend glyphs from Scrolls of Wisdom ... and you no longer need Book of Glyph Mastery unless you want to pay to speed up your learning process)

The sheet is open for all to read. Anyone can leave a comment on the second page. If you want to copy the sheets to your own version (ie, in a new document that YOU own, don't try and use the master document as I delete randomly added sheets every once in awhile) to track your glyph learning progress, feel free.

If useful please uprate here or feel free to leave a comment in the file.

Comment by weezact7

I can confirm that as of Patch 5.3 these books are no longer NEEDED. I've seen many 3 of these in my entire time playing and I'm fairly certain I used them all before I made my Panda (who is now my primary Scribe). However, I just checked and I know all of these recipes. Thus, the books are probably still here to make it easier, but you CAN learn them from other sources.

Comment by Allyz

With WoD made virtually useless. It now has the same effect as the scribe training of northrend, which uses 3 Inks of the Sea with no cooldown.