The NRA is quite offensive so teachers are entitled to ask him not to wear that shirt to school.

The school has no dress code policy which bans such articles of clothing. The teacher was being arbitrary and capricious. Hardly an example we should be setting for kids. And frankly, the cop should know better.

++ Exactly.

I was in high school during the 90's punk revival and showed up to school sporting some brightly colored spiky hair. It did not violate school dress code policy. The principal of the school took me aside in the hallway and told me that I wasn't allowed to wear my hair this way. I recited the policy to him and asked him how it violated the dress code. He realized he was out-maneuvered because I had done my homework. As a last ditch effort to hide behind his authority in order to get his way, he told me to, "Just change it before you come back next week, so there's no further problems." I told him I would be happy to accommodate him if he could produce the policy I was violating. He walked wearily away and I never heard a peep out of him again regarding my hair. This is what this teacher should have done.

I'm also beginning to suspect that McGruff is really a second account managed by BK in an attempt to create the "ultimate-strawman." Either that, or he's just being confrontational for the point of being confrontational. Most of the liberals I know would be upset by this situation (even the really dumb extremists ones). They would be siding with the boy, not the teacher.

The NRA is quite offensive so teachers are entitled to ask him not to wear that shirt to school.

The school has no dress code policy which bans such articles of clothing. The teacher was being arbitrary and capricious. Hardly an example we should be setting for kids. And frankly, the cop should know better.

++ Exactly.

I was in high school during the 90's punk revival and showed up to school sporting some brightly colored spiky hair. It did not violate school dress code policy. The principal of the school took me aside in the hallway and told me that I wasn't allowed to wear my hair this way. I recited the policy to him and asked him how it violated the dress code. He realized he was out-maneuvered because I had done my homework. As a last ditch effort to hide behind his authority in order to get his way, he told me to, "Just change it before you come back next week, so there's no further problems." I told him I would be happy to accommodate him if he could produce the policy I was violating. He walked wearily away and I never heard a peep out of him again regarding my hair. This is what this teacher should have done.

I'm also beginning to suspect that McGruff is really a second account managed by BK in an attempt to create the "ultimate-strawman." Either that, or he's just being confrontational for the point of being confrontational. Most of the liberals I know would be upset by this situation (even the really dumb extremists ones). They would be siding with the boy, not the teacher.

++ ++++

In my freshman year of high school (this was in the late 80's), I was pulled into the office for wearing an upside down cross around my neck. I was told that some students found it offensive. I told the VP that I found the cross offensive. So unless they were banned from wearing crosses, I would continue to wear mine upside down.

That was the last I ever heard of the issue._________________Always do the opposite of what SJWs say.

Obama played the race card. Hillary played the woman card. America played the Trump card.

The West Virginia eighth-grader who was suspended and arrested in late April after he refused to remove a t-shirt supporting the National Rifle Association appeared in court this week and was formally charged with obstructing an officer.

As CBS affiliate WOWK reports, 14-year-old Jared Marcum now faces a $500 fine and a maximum of one year in prison.

The boy’s father, Allen Lardieri, is not pleased.

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When I went to school in former yugoslavia in late 70's and 80's there was this dress code where kids were all supposed to wear "state approved" blue overalls. The idea was to mask economic status. We kids hated it and ended up customizing it. Making holes in it, spilling paint, writing stuff, wearing pins, and eventually patches. We ended up looking like some strange Factory Workers Bikers Gang._________________“If You Meet the Buddha on the Road, Kill Him”

When I went to school in former yugoslavia in late 70's and 80's there was this dress code where kids were all supposed to wear "state approved" blue overalls. The idea was to mask economic status. We kids hated it and ended up customizing it. Making holes in it, spilling paint, writing stuff, wearing pins, and eventually patches. We ended up looking like some strange Factory Workers Bikers Gang.

yup school uniform to not only identify what school a kid goes to BUT also so those of lower income do not feel outclassed. We have that in the UK. Only once you reach collage/6th (~16yo) form does the reasonable dress code rule apply_________________The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter
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A year in jail for wrong t-shirt? WTF. This is getting insane.
Whatever happened to sending the kid to principle office and, you know, calling his parents?_________________“If You Meet the Buddha on the Road, Kill Him”

A year in jail for wrong t-shirt? WTF. This is getting insane.
Whatever happened to sending the kid to principle office and, you know, calling his parents?

this. If a kid wears something controversial in the UK they are sent home. If they do it again they are suspended.

it is not a criminal thing UNLESS it contains hate speeches inciting violence (only area where free speech in the UK [and iirc US] is questionable)_________________The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter
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Quite right. Any material promoting guns or gun culture should be banned in the same way that cigarette advertising is

banned if it is school policy sure, but jailed for breaking a school policy?_________________The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter
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I've said it before. Americans are worried about the wrong amendments crumbling.

I guess the logic is as long as they still have the 2nd they can take back any rights. but right now they don't seem to be doing anything to protect their amendments, rather tweat that its wrong_________________The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter
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I've said it before. Americans are worried about the wrong amendments crumbling.

I guess the logic is as long as they still have the 2nd they can take back any rights. but right now they don't seem to be doing anything to protect their amendments, rather tweat that its wrong

number 1 is being attacked here, and the current govt is shitting all over number 4. Those two are arguably the most important.

I agree, I am just saying the percieved logic here is #1 and #4 can be taken back with #2, so as long as #2 is religiously protected something can be done *IF* it goes too far.

real question is "too far" was some time ago and all that happened were tweats were sent

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In this case, people are up at arms because a teenager's 1st Amendment right to freedom of expression was violated. It just looks like 2nd Amendment blather because the stance he was expressing support for was the conservative understanding of the 2nd Amendment.

Also, we've got a pretty long and boisterous conversation going about Edward Snowden (I think he spawned 3 threads). The Edward Snowden case has deep implications with respect to the 4th Amendment.

Hell, Muso even went after the 10th Amendment which is kind of a catch all that says that states will govern on any issue that isn't specifically spelled out in the constitution, recently.

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In this case, people are up at arms because a teenager's 1st Amendment right to freedom of expression was violated. It just looks like 2nd Amendment blather because the stance he was expressing support for was the conservative understanding of the 2nd Amendment.

Also, we've got a pretty long and boisterous conversation going about Edward Snowden (I think he spawned 3 threads). The Edward Snowden case has deep implications with respect to the 4th Amendment.

Hell, Muso even went after the 10th Amendment which is kind of a catch all that says that states will govern on any issue that isn't specifically spelled out in the constitution, recently.

The Constitution (the whole thing, Amendments and all) is a big deal to us.

then do something about it! tweeting about your disatifaction is doing jackshit
look at Egypt_________________The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter
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In this case, people are up at arms because a teenager's 1st Amendment right to freedom of expression was violated. It just looks like 2nd Amendment blather because the stance he was expressing support for was the conservative understanding of the 2nd Amendment.

Also, we've got a pretty long and boisterous conversation going about Edward Snowden (I think he spawned 3 threads). The Edward Snowden case has deep implications with respect to the 4th Amendment.

Hell, Muso even went after the 10th Amendment which is kind of a catch all that says that states will govern on any issue that isn't specifically spelled out in the constitution, recently.

The Constitution (the whole thing, Amendments and all) is a big deal to us.

then do something about it! tweeting about your disatifaction is doing jackshit
look at Egypt

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I'm beginning to wonder if we shouldn't have a ban on handguns, available only to those with concealed weapons permits. The reason is twofold:

1. Dumbass gun owners who let their shit get so easily stolen.
2. The vast, vast majority of gun crimes are committed with pistols.

Placing handgun ownership under the concealed weapons system would mean that the firearm is regularly tracked and safety courses have been taken. California also requires that concealed weapons holders demonstrate competency with the firearm, as well.

It's not that the handguns are bad...it's that we as a society are simply not responsible with them anymore. I would also like to add that this idea is fully compatible with James Madison's original intent of the Second Amendment as pistols would never be used to subvert an oppressive government.