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Comment by Quttan

This mount used to drop from the fourth bonus loot chest in Zul'Aman at a 100% rate. After patch 3.0 the developers thought that it would be easy to get when people are level 80, and thus it would no longer be viewed as a status symbol, so they removed it from the loot tables.

The first mount dropped for Inferni from the guild For the Horde on the PTR.

Comment by Vordea

Who else immediately thought of that RPG Motivational Poster "Bear Calvary" when they first heard about this?

Comment by Harik

I assume it's below the 1%

Swift Razzashi Raptor is .4%, and ZA is on like-reset, I'm guessing it will be similar to the raptor.

I'm sad because even if it will drop I will be excluded because I already have the Raptor. :

Comment by Mantook

Do you know for a fact that it drops from the boss? I think its a rep reward, or maybe a trash drop like the AQ mount. There are two things that make me think this...first of all, there are three different colors of it, which makes no sense if its a boss drop, since boss drops are usually the mounts of a boss (and unless he comes randomly riding three different bears, there should only be one color.) Secondly, boss mounts are usually more detailed. Like the baron mount, it actually says "summons baron rivendares mount" or the kara mount, "summons attumen the huntsmans steed". The ZG mounts arent detailed like that, but no boss mount has more than one color :O

Comment by ancathon

This drops off the Bear boss Nalorakk in Zul'Aman. I assume the drop % is under 1%

Comment by Nulgar

I think the three colors are from the three types of trash bears/mounts of trash trolls, the player mount bear will only have one color.

Comment by Xsear

This sounds really cool!

Comment by Cunnelly

Dropped for us just now in Zul'Aman (First boss, Nalorakk, the bear avatar) on a guild run (EU PVE PTR) and I won the roll, goodie :P

Comment by Namei

It also might be that these aren't different colored, but in different lighting .. the first screenie was taken in the instance, and the second in Terrokkar somewhere.

The lighting in Terrokkar is slightly greenish and definitely affects the coloring of things, while the other is more of a normal lighting, slightly darker than most other places, but still, there'd be a difference between the two.

I can't confirm that this is the case, but its doubtful that there are two or more different bear skins for the mount. Then again, there's always the possibility of model change as stated above.

Comment by Thelion

Yeh it's definetly the colouring.There's only 1 model for the bear , so Namei you're right :) And yes they can be changed this is only the PTR that's what it's made for ;p

Comment by zakenfein

there are 4 different colors...look at the mpq file on the ptr

brown, green, red, yellow are the colors of the armor

Comment by Ultimate1monkey

From what I've seen, this is currentely the only bear mount in the game.

Comment by ilikokun

This mount has to be mine! It is ultimate cutiness!

Comment by v1c1n1ty

Actually, when this item first appeared on Wowhead, someone linked a picture that shows four different coloured versions of this mount. I wouldn't say the color of the mount is random, probably depends on your race or something like that.

Comment by Xumbik

As Namei said; the difference in color on that picture is most likely Ambient Lightning in the diffreent zones. This, in turn tints any object in the area to blend in better. My guess is that the bear has got one skin, which is the black'ish one from the picture taken in Zul'Aman.

Comment by Dytag

The next major content patch for World of Warcraft, The Gods of Zul’Aman, will add an impressive array of new challenges, features, changes, and rewards to World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade.

Zul’Aman is a 10-person raid dungeon located in the Ghostlands, with enemies and spoils that pick up where Karazhan leaves off. This outdoor raid dungeon is home to the vicious Amani forest trolls and their leader, the infamous Zul’jin. You and your band of heroes will battle the dungeon’s six bosses, including four avatars of Zul’Aman, each bearing the aspect of a different ferocious creature. Zul’Aman also features a challenging bonus reward structure based on completing certain objectives within a time limit, which will provide an extra level of challenge – and thrills – for seasoned raid groups.

The other defining characteristic of The Gods of Zul’Aman is the bounty of rewards, both material and intangible, that it offers many types of players. The powerful epic items found in Zul’Aman are just the beginning. There is a host of new purchasable rewards as well, from the gladiator rewards of Arena Season 3, to the dozens of new Badge of Justice rewards and the full set of new Honor rewards. There are also more useful and fun items such as the new Flying Machine flying mounts, which can be built and operated by skilled engineers. Among the more abstract benefits to players are faster leveling to 60, the revamping of Dustwallow Marsh with new quests, new daily quests for dungeons and battlegrounds, and many class balance changes. This is just a sampling of the bounty that awaits in The Gods of Zul’Aman.

Comment by MIstel

Bear calvary...Yeah, you're prettey much f*****

Comment by HozzMidnight

Sweetest land mount ever. Must have.

Comment by Aguran

Until a drop of the mount happens from a chest before the 4th, I'm going to expect that it is only from the 4th chest. At the time of this posting 3 bear mounts have been dropped that I've heard of and they have all been from the 4th chest.

Comment by Bawsderitchy

I won the item in a roll tonight on a guild run to ZA.

It actually appeared as an item inside a vase in the corner of the room of the Lynx boss. I dont think therefore that it is necessarily a timed event drop only.

Raid Leader looted and behold... server 1st on Quel'Thalas (EU) according to a huge number of people I spoke to.

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Comment by QuiSiLoR

We actually got this from the Hidden Loot Bag - very lucky find

Comment by Chem

Interesting to see whether the rumoured low droprate holds true. We've had 2 drop so far, both from the (bugged) fourth chest - bugged because it was available to loot even though the timed event had been failed.

Edit: the bugged fourth chest was hotfixed around the 20th November.

Comment by Logic

Our guild had it drop from the hidden vase in Lynx's room on Sunday, even after failing the timed event after only downing Bear and Eagle.

So... timed event doesn't seem to be a requirement atm.

Comment by Queggy

From WoWWiki: Drop rate is approximately 0.50-3%.

Comment by Queggy

From WoWWiki: Drop rate is approximately 0.50-3%.

Comment by crohnoes

This is actually a furry tractor.

Comment by sverrithor

When you see the pictures you just think: "That's just a bear. Nothing very special." But actually this mount is HUGE! It's like two Kodo's tied together!

Comment by crohnoes

Oh too bad, would have thought people got the reference.

Comment by xCHAMOx

LOLBEARMOUNT

Comment by HaklePrime

More to the point, the bear mount is a 100% drop from the 4th boss's timed loot chest.

The boss you kill last is irrelevant, the 4th timed chest you open will always be the mount.

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Comment by pinch999

Just to give an indication of difficulty on the timed event: We finished it with 1 minute left on our clock (Eagle, Bear, Dragonhawk, Lynx), and we were 10 T6 geared folks. We used flasks, food, etc and it required a lot of chain pulling. More people will probably get this over time, as it requires basically no mistakes, but these kind of things get better the more you do the instance with the same people. We had actually lost to the timed event 3 times before we got it last night, but because we had the same people every night, everyone knew what to do to shave off every last second.

Yes, the bear mount is 100% from the fourth chest.

Comment by Chem

It's really not that difficult that you need to flask up, use food etc if you're well geared. A good balanced group of players who know what they're doing is all you need, then chain pull your way through the whole instance. It's only hard perhaps on the casters, but as long as they drink quickly and minimise their downtime they shouldn't slow things down significantly.

One good tip is to leave the bonus chests till after you've completed the timed event. Use group loot so you don't have to wait around once a boss dies, someone interact with the prisoner and move straight on. The chests won't despawn, you can go back and loot them later.

Comment by Chem

It's really not that difficult that you need to flask up, use food etc if you're well geared. A good balanced group of players who know what they're doing is all you need, then chain pull your way through the whole instance.

One good tip is to leave the bonus chests till after you've completed the timed event. Use group loot so you don't have to wait around once a boss dies, someone interact with the prisoner and move straight on. The chests won't despawn so you can go back and loot them later.

Comment by kazuo

This is how the ZA timed chests work to my knowledge. There are four in total in which you have a 45 minutes to kill all 4 avatars. You initially have 20 minutes to free the first prisoner. After your first avatar kill, you should receive 15 more minutes. After your second avatar kill, you should receive 10 more minutes. After that, no other avatars award you any more time. The quickest route around the avatars is in a counter-clockwise fashion starting with Akil'zon, Nalorakk, Jan'alai, then Halazzi.

I'm not 100% sure if this is the entire loot table from all the chests (I don't know if there are extra Badges of Justice anywhere.... I only managed to get to the first 2 chests). However, this is the loot table I managed to gather.

Comment by Haxxor

So only if you complete the timed event? Looks super tough. Wowwiki says it has a rare drop rate, I'm assuming that's broken data. Everyone will have one of these once WotLK comes out.

Comment by Nogun

Yes this is wrong information, the bear being a rare drop from any of the chests was the case in one of the PTR build but certainly not on the Live realms.

And yeh the flaw of the design is that 10 level 80s that want to spend 1 hour getting 1 person a mount probably can without many issues without even needing Tier7.

Comment by Jubjub

I believe that this is one of the three epic land mounts that requires level 70 to use, most other require level 60.

Comment by azsure

:p not really. The Fiery Warhorse's Reins...Reins of the Raven Lord - they too have a level 70 requirement. Check out Wowhead's ground mount section. ^_^

Comment by Zittel

he said ONE of the THREE...so he's not wrong at all ^^

Comment by choryukami

You're right that the first chest drops armor and the second chest drops etc, but I think specifically the eagle boss gives you 10 minutes and the bear gives you 15.

Comment by Troilus

This is incorrect.

The way the time works (Intended): You get 20 minutes, and each boss you kill is suppose to ADD 20 minutes onto the time you have remaining after the kill.

The way the time works (Reality):You get 20 minutes, and when you kill a boss, it makes the time you have NEGATIVE and then adds 20 minutes.

Because of this (unfortunate) reality, it is in your best interest to kill the boss at the last possible minute so you get a full 20 minutes to do the next.

If it worked the intended way, it would be much easier to do the timed chess event, and makes sense. Understandable how you might think that the bosses give you different amounts, and there is a bit more trash to the bear boss, leaving your guild 5 minutes when you killed him, and you had 10 minutes left when you killed the eagle.

Comment by katholas

This is incorrect, the eagle always adds 10 minutes and the bear always adds 15 minutes the other 2 bosses add no time. this gives 45 minutes total to kill all 4 bosses if you want your bear.

Comment by Snitsky

Please don't downgrade correct comments. Having downed them both as the first option on separate runs, I can confirm that the bear adds 15 minutes whereas Akil'zon only adds 10, and this does not matter in which order you kill them.

Comment by Sofci

can u actually still get this mount???????

Comment by fevis

This mount is very hard to get. It will require the entire raid to be atleast T6 geared and making alot of chain pulling. One mistake and you can wave goodbye to this mount.Good luck while tryinbg to get this mount.

Comment by shadowkid104

hey can someone put a link to the quest?thanks

Comment by Schizomaniac

I have one question, let's say my group and I get thru it perfectly timed and get to the last part to get the mount. Does the mount get rolled for or does everyone in the group get one?

Comment by Kadhgar

Only 1 person can get a bear mount per run.

Comment by Smilomaniac

It's a pretty large mount, and a crowd pleaser in IF/org.Only thing I dislike is the basket on its head, but it seems to relate to the bear being blind.You can peek under its helm to see the white eyes.

We do runs every reset, and so far we have 10 mounts. Twice done with 6 minutes to spare.

Edit: (I have made a mistake in regards to gear, the rogue and warrior have T6 as well. Keep in mind though, that we had worse gear 9 resets ago)Setup and gear:Prot Warrior (T5 and halfway through our runs, he's gotten T6 since)Feral Druid (T5 equivalent gear)Fury/Arms Warrior (T6)Combat Rogue (T6 + 1 warglaive)Enhancement Shaman (Decked out in T6, cursed vision of sargeras, the works)

Edit: I can confirm that a full out T6 is indeed not needed. my guild did a time run, with 1 minute too slow, at the time all in T5 and lower gear. Last night, my team got the second to last mount, and we had 8 minutes to spare, personal record.

General advice:Use consumables. (don't use shattrath flasks, they don't work there)

1 prot and 1 feral is worth gold. Take down the feral's targets first and let him cat up on the prot's target afterwards.

Keep pulling, all the time. You have the druids innervate in a pinch.

Loot bosses, chances are you have better loot, I wouldn't bother disenchanting since voids are pretty much worthless, and yes, even with the upcomming splitting ability. Agreeing on looting rules beforehand would help.

DON'T LOOT CHESTS, and don't even let them out before the time run is OVER.

The worst area is up to 3rd boss, don't pull the group on the left, but let the tank go up to the right wall, and he'll pull the group behind that. Sneak around that wall to skip the first 4-man groupDon't bother taking the route through the dragonhawk areas. Use feral charge/bash to take down scouts. Roots break more often than the charge gets resisted.Keep the group tight, and look out for scouts, have the rogue ready to go gouge, or have the tanks charge.Always kill flamecasters first, and don't ever fear them. Don't bother mindcontrolling them.

When you're past 3rd boss and have about 12 minutes left, you're home free. Skip first patrol with lynx' sneak along the wall they blocked off last patch, and it's even better.

When you kill 4th boss you have to wait 2 minutes for the annoying gnome to finish blasting all the urns.. the mount is in the last one, which is in the north-eastern corner of the room.

Voila, your very own amani warbear, which everyone should press "Need" on. (Those who have, automatically skip the roll)

Comment by Smilomaniac

Further general tips:

Use bloodlusts, fire elementals and drums. (in our setup, the feral druid, enha-shammie and rogue all 3 have battle drums, keeping haste up constantly on all bossfights). I'd recommend switching shamans midfight for giving melee bloodlust again, and then switching them back.

Have the feral druid DPS on bearboss, when he's not tanking it. (watch your aggro!)

Use Ventrilo!

On Lynx boss, don't bother killling the spawn, just keep dps on boss. (So that the feral can tank the pet with minimal effort, and still deliver dps on the boss)Kill totems, but ignore them on last phase.

Gathering a group for Zul'Aman:

You pretty much need a dreamteam for time runs. They don't have to be perfectly geared, T5 equivalent is fine, but you wont set any timebreaking records.

Use the setup above, in a pinch you can substitute the warlock for a shadowpriest, but you'll lack the AOE power you need for killing the adds on 3rd boss. However, you wont have any mana problems.(As the feral druid, my innervate is always on a constant cooldown, usually spent on the mage)You can substitute rogue for a hunter. You can combine the above substitutions, since the hunter will be good for killing adds.

As for the group itself.. ours is made of members from top guilds. We didn't really know eachother, other than by reputation, and some are friends.It's nice not to be forced to drag along guildmembers who you can't refuse but don't really want to bring along, because this is a tough run.

Agree on loot distribution from the start. Everyone gets a mount, random rolled. Everyone stays for full ten runs. No skipping out when you have your mount, that's dishonest, and very poor behaviour.IF, there's a member that can't come, and you need to replace him, be sure to work out the rules with the replacement.

Personally, I disallow the replacement to get the mount, but he is of course welcome to the gear that drops, just like everyone else. And it's a guaranteed 3-chest run at least. If he performs well, do an 11th run for him to get the mount as well. Permanent replacements should be last in line for the mount.

"But everyone on the run is entitled to the mount!"I'd say just gathering the group is half the work. If a replacement wanders in on the 6th run, and grabs a mount, then what about the others, who have worked for 5 runs before him?Doesn't seem fair to me.

When everyone has their mount, you can keep running for easy loot of course. Sell spots for gold.Depending on server economy, you can easily get 2-3k gold for selling a spot for a guaranteed mount. (don't forget that the money will be divided.)The last two bosses are 6 badges, and good loot, so you can sell those spots as well, when you're done with the time run.

Be sure to use Ventrilo, and invite new people to join it as well. Teamwork is key.

Comment by Smilomaniac

Thank you for your praise.

While I checked out the gear, I realized that two of the members are actually pretty decked out, so from the start it was only 4 T5's, and pretty much the rest in T6.Mage was replaced from T5 to T6, shaman was replaced from T6 to T6.

With so much time to spare, as we have now (8 minutes!), I'm confident that it can be done with a few practise runs with a T5 geared team, especially since a group from my guild did it 1 minute too slow, on their first real attempt.

Look up the following people on eu.wowarmory.com , all on Burning Legion (PvP - EU):

Kiler gathered the original group and set the rules. Finding the keymembers, and getting them to come each time was a lot of work, and very well done.

In the end, you need practice, and of course you need to know all the tactics...

Some extra tips:

On 3rd boss, make sure to clean a WHOLE side at a time. Have the feral druid, and arms warrior grab as many as they can, while the others are nuking down the adds. 3rd boss will also be easier next patch, now that he doesn't teleport those close to him.

For the ferals:I use an.... interesting gear mix.T4 for tanking, and T5 for DPS.. now, the reason I do this is to achieve higher survivability in catform, and retain max armor in T4. The upgrade is so slight, that in my opinion it's not worth re-enchanting and re-gemming both sets, now that T6 is right around the corner for me.

I have some very good pieces, both DPS and tanking-wise.So the only thing I mix, are 4 pieces of dps-"specced" T5, into the rest of my tanking gear.This gives me a sufficient damage boost for trash, and honestly bosses as well.I used to use full out tanking gear on bear and lynx bosses, but it's not really needed, with good healers at least.

Be sure to bind your full out dps, full out tanking, and mix gear to keys, with an addon like "Item Rack", so you can adapt quickly to situations. The trash hits fairly hard a lot of places, so I'd recommend not switching too many things out for a mix.

As for consumables, I'd recommend +30 stamina food, Major elixir of fortitude and agility. They support both tanking and DPS, while giving good survivability as cat.You can substitute the stamina food for agility food.

If you have a paladin, make sure to poke and bother him for blessings all the time!You definately want salvation when not tanking, primarily on bosses, and kings the rest of the time.

Screenshot of our team has been added. Gz to everyone, was nice running with ya :DEdit; my shot hasn't been added. I don't know why =(

Comment by vivuci

I make what that so that do I get your bear?

Comment by Devin

After I read these raid setup suggestions, I felt a little disappointed. We menaged to bring down 4 bosses in time with this setup:1 Prot Warrior2 Paladins, Prot and Holy1 Fire/Arcane Mage1 Resto Druid1 Holy Priest2 Warlocks, Affliction and Fire Dest1 BM Hunter1 Combat Rogue

Everyone in the group with *absoulutely no Gruul/T5 gear*, the prot paladin (me) and one of the warlocks without a single drop from even Karazhan. Some of our members had drops from 3 bosses in Zul'Aman and when we did this thing in time for the first time, we were trying the trash to Dragonhawk boss for the first time too.

Read comments, learn from others' experiences but never underestimate yourself. Teamwork and skills have priority over gear for Zul'aman's timed event.

Comment by Madlax

I´d definitly like to see a screenshot/Armory links of that Devin, I simply don't think it´s possible :)

Comment by Devin

I don't think it's possible to find armory stats of those characters showing what kind of gear they had back then. Even if it was, I don't think I would bother to link them all down here. I told you what we did, it doesn't matter who believes or not.

Comment by yeknom366

Our guild has gotten 8 bears to date, and our first was before we killed kael. On top of that, we have gotten a bear once when we wiped right before dragonhawk and had to run back. It's not THAT hard, people just can't be retarded.

Comment by PrettyKitty

What is the mount special for this mount?

Comment by lumememm

Devin, and I tell you it's just not possible. You don't have enough dps and healing to do the constant pulling - only way of doing it. Vent as much as you want, but trash does not go faster.

Comment by pandaman

On our first ever speed run, we just scrapped it with 1 minute on clock, counting down the last 20 seconds when boss was about 5% ^^ We've got better now, following the tips all listed above and typically finish with 3-6 minutes left on clock, not had a 7 minute remaining run, but I imagine it's possible. We are all Tier 6, and have a Paladin tanking all, with help of an offtank Druid who also does DPS when needed, we only bring 2 healers and rest dps.

Comment by Smilomaniac

Zul'Aman is very gear dependant.

It shows on several points, the path up to eagle boss, where you need to be able to deliver excellent DPS to targets *and* AoE several times until reaching the end mob before the boss.The worse gear you have here, the more difficult it is.

The Bear Boss, requires some fairly heavy tanking gear.As a druid, you'd like at least 4 pieces of T4, crit immune and karazhan'esque gear in the rest of your slots.Healers must be able to keep up here, and produce raw healing power.

Hawk Boss is a 50/50 deal...You need to get the small hawks down fast, in order to do that you want to AoE half a side, if not a whole, at a time. That's gear dependant.You can do it slowly, but then you'll meet the enrage timer, and then your tank needs to be well geared.

Lynx boss... 6-7k lashes.. need I say more?

Time run? Impossible. I'll believe it when I see the video.

Hex Lord Malacras... either you umst have enough shadow res gear to cope with him, or have healers that can cope during shadowbolt spam. It's *possible* to beat, if all targets are crowd controlled, and everyone avoids every single AoE he spams, and if they interrupt every heal.Unless everyone is 100% on the fight, this is also gear dependant.

Zul'Jin...Healers must keep up during lynx phase, and that's really it.

Comment by yeknom366

Did this with the following all in t5 or less gear (before killing kael):

2 feral druidsenhance shamancombat roguefury warrior

affliction lockfire mageshadow priestresto shamanholy paladin

Comment by goodolarchie

It's very possible in t4/badge/crafted gear. My guild is full t6 but we decided to try this with our alts. Mine is a prot paladin with 15k unbuffed health and uncrushable, for instance. I have no t4, just other random kara epics and badge gear. The healers had about 1700 + heals, casters at about 1000 +dmg etc. So long as your mana regen and pulls go quick and fluently, you'll do fine. We completed with 3 minutes to spare. Don't underestimate badge gear when combined with flasks and consumables!

On our mains, we usually complete with 6-8 minutes left. We also bring 3 healers. Two would result in a faster clear but we like to combine pulls and seed/soe with a paladin tank, our healers also throw in some DPS on bosses. They aren't chain nuking, just throwing in dots and casts during things like eagle storm, bear charge, the last 30% of dragon, and when lynx splits. Be smart, not zealous.

Comment by PrettyKitty

Why is my comment downed?

Comment by DDDevilz

In my ZA group we have gotten a total of 4 bears now out of 5 serious attempts. Our "core" group consists of:

The rest of the slots are filled with DPS only (everyone in the raid has T5ish gear). Our best run so far has been with this core group plus a Balance Druid, BM hunter, and an additional Destro lock. We completed it with nearly 8 minutes to spare.

If you can find two healers that are up to the task of healing this instance, I would highly recommend it. Dropping the third healer for an additional DPS slot really helps to speed things up.

Comment by haloman800

hmm... a head on the front... and one on both sides.. 2 heads are better than one! then that means 3 heads are even beter!! :)

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Comment by eynon

Our guild just got our first one last night, and I was the lucky guy who got it. :) We use to just "see how fast we could go" but never put any serious attempts into it. Once we did, we wanted to keep the same 10-12 people based on availability. From there, we'll start to work others in as we can.

Once we got our group together, and we started trying, we went +6 minutes, +3 minutes, +45 seconds, +1 second (literally), -3 minutes. This is the benefit of a constant group.

2 healers is definetly the way to go as long as they can handle it. You can always sub a 3rd healer in for Hex Lord and Zul'Aman if someone doesnt want anything or need anything off of them.

Since we had no shadow priest, i'd highly recommend chugging mana pots. Yes, even for trash. Your trying to accomplish a speed goal here, and if you're to stingy to purchase some extra ones, then you need to reevaluate your strategy. Drinking does take time, try to do it as much as possible, but about 90% of the run, you won't have full mana. You just won't.

Use flasks, oils, food, and everything else at your disposal. We're all in T6 and your going to need it.

If anyone has Drums of Battle, use them constantly. Even on trash.

Avoid patrols where you can. We avoid 1 on the way to the lynx boss that patrol around the hut where the repair guy is. Another is on the way to Dragonhawk right when you step off the grass, and up the stairs where the last pull is held. Its faster even if you have to wait for them to go by.

Go with people you trust and put it on group loot. You can loot the boss, but its helpful if you just wait until your done with the timed event to get the badges. Also, don't release the guy, they will be there when you come back.

Mount up when you kill the bosses.

Chain pulls are the key to the whole thing. As long as your healers have mana, and your mage is ready to sheep (when applicable) your good to go. Your caster dps can wait 3-5 seconds to continue drinking.

Last, watch videos, and read up on people's experiences from their runs.

Comment by madedog

I think this is one of the best things Blizzard has invented. We're occasionally throwing a timed run on offdays, and have so far been rocking with:

Prot paladinRetribution paladinFeral DruidSurvival HunterResto druid

and 5 random people from who one is either resto shaman or coh priest, sometimes we can rock with enhancement shaman for extra pew pew. Honestly I can't imagine doing that place without tankadin, since I'm spoiled :) (running as the retpaladin though).

First time we tried it we had some t4 people (such as me) tagging along, so it was pretty challenging. Now, depending on setup, we are able to go as fast as with 8 minutes spare on Lynx. Today we actually wiped on Nalorakk's trash but still made it with 3 minutes to spare.

It's pretty easy event once everyone are familiar with it.

And obviously the bear is pure love <3 ^^

Comment by Aerowix

This mount will be removed from loot tables upon the release of next expansion Wrath of the Lich King. It was intended as a reward for the current difficulty level (70).

"In WotLK, the Bear Mount will be replaced by a very good, epic item that is level appropriate for people doing the zone."

Comment by Shadowghost

i really wanna go to zul'aman but i don't know if my gear is good for this instance i got arena season 1 can anyone asnwer me please?

Comment by Kelefane

Current Group Setup:--------------------------------

1 Protection Warrior1 Feral Druid

1 Restoration Shaman1 Holy Paladin

1 Warlock1 Fire Mage1 Beastmaster Hunter

1 Rogue1 Retribution Paladin1 Enhance Shaman

Tier 6 Quality loot, we take no short cuts and no wall exploits. Simple pour hard dps and no dumb mistakes. Generally finish with 10-15 minutes left on timer, if performed well could be executed by T5 quality people, just need to maximize dps and pop consumables

Comment by biertank

is this tradeable? it says binds when picked up but i see alot of 'WTB amani and WTS'

Comment by flametame666

This mount is extremely hard to get, and is usually not attainable if your arent T6 geared. Usually our group finishes this event with at least 10 minutes left. To get the mount you must down four bosses preferably in the order: Eagle, Bear, Dragonhawk, Lynx. Typically our group make-up includes:1 Fire mage (5 pieces T6)3 Rogues (good for stuns and such on the scouts on your way up to the dragonhawk boss. All 3 Rogues have 6 pc T6)2 Shamans (One resto and one elemental. Take note that shamans are extremely important assets to have in this run seeing as if you did wipe, which it does happen, the run would still be doable b/c one of the shamans could use their self ress. Elemental shammy has 4 piece T6 and BT gear. The resto shammy has 5 pieces of T6 including some non-tier pieces off of sunwell bosses)2 Paladins ( One prot and the other Holy. Prot pally has 6 piece T6. Holy pally has 5 piece T6 with some sunwell pieces)1 Warrior (Prot. Has 4 piece T6)1 Hunter (BM. Has 4 pc T6 in addition to that polearm that drops off the trash in sunwell)

Even with a great group make-up and great players, to get this mount requires a lot of concentration and there is very little room for error. This run is high intensity which means: no sitting down to drink (use mana/health pots when needed)In my opinion the hardest part of this run is how you pull the gauntlet on the way to the eagle boss. There are a bunch of suggested ways to do this but the way that our group uses, which I believe is the best way, is to mount up and have your pally pull the entire gauntlet. It took us a while before we figured out that the reason our pally was taking so much dmg was because of the Windwalkers. So now we have the rogues gank the windwalkers and keep them off of the pally. If you pull this gauntlet right it should save you at least 5 minutes of time that would have been wasted. Note: For the gauntlet make sure your fire mage has high mana efficiency because this requires a lot of mana intensive AoE attacks. I would say 11k+ mana pool. The alchemy trinket also helps a lot on this gauntlet. Do NOT loot ANYTHING at ANY POINT during the run. Remeber, you are not here for gear/badges. You are here to get a bear mount.

Comment by Xelestra

Some tips for people looking to shave an extra few seconds off the clock, barring the obvious oils/food/elixirs. This is what our guild uses for Bear Cavalry runs. We don't have any T6.

* Run two healers.* Pull half of the Eagle gauntlet, burn down the two Windwalkers, then have the hunter go up the rest of the gauntlet to misdirect the Tempest onto the tank. Have the tank pop an Ironshield Potion at the beginning to take decreased damage. AoE.* Burn a Drum of Restoration during the gauntlet. Your drum will be up again during Eagle.* Collapse onto the tank on Eagle instead of collapsing anywhere else. It allows your melee to continue DPSing during the storm.* Have a feral druid cast Soothe Animal on the first duo bear pack and hug the wall on the left. It can be skipped entirely.* Netherweave Net scouts. It never misses or resists.* Charge into the four pack at the base of Dragonhawk's stairs if the coast is clear. You can skip the hatchling pat entirely by doing so. Don't forget to recall your totems.* Hatch one platform, then kill BOTH hatchers until Dragonhawk is at 35%. The remaining platform will spawn all at once at that percentage. You must time this so it doesn't happen during a Fire Bomb.* Advise your dragonhawk tank to carry Oils of Immolation and (if applicable) sapper charges and ice grenades. AoE.* Have a rogue distract the pat that paths up towards Malacrass' stairs (right off Dragonhawk's platform) and Soothe Animal the Elder Lynx in that group to the left of his stairs. Hug the wall until you reach the spears.* Distract the following lynx/troll pack (now to your left). Hug the spear wall and charge into the pack on the other side of the tree. When dead, mount up, stay behind the tank.* Have your tank drag the crocolisk pat with tamer to the left wall to avoid agroing crocs by waterside with AoE.* In Lynx's room, mark the pat. Pull it when it comes to the door regardless of what you're doing at the time. You'll not get another chance.* Keep DPS on Lynx, never on his spirit. It takes too long to debuff the spirit for maximal DPS.

Comment by Nuchaleft

I'd imagine a bear would be uncomfortable to ride >_<

Comment by somhael

cooooooooooool i want!!

Comment by somhael

ya it would nr

Comment by ender111

dumb question... can you join the raid after a group defeats the four bosses and still get the loot from the chest? I want this on my alt, but is severely undergeared.

Comment by Rasztra

Sorry Devin (two posts above), but you did not get a bear mount with a group in pre-Kara gear. It is possible you got the first or even second chest in time, but you did not "bring down 4 bosses in time" like you said you did. You are either lying, or you have misunderstood what people are posting about. Or perhaps I have misunderstood you.

Comment by Rasztra

Netherweave Nets are PRO for CC'ing the scouts. Bring two tailors with 5 nets each.

Comment by Restodroood

Hey guys I have a few questions about my Resto druid. I see people saying "oh you don't need T6 stuff to do this." Right now, my druid is sitting at 1779+healing with missing 2 enchants. If I got my enchants I'd be at ~1840 healing.

So with comsumables, mana pots, oils, is it possible for me to do 4 chests?

Comment by Frogo

The bear cant fit in IF Bank :(

Comment by Heavy666

A friend and my brother told me that a guy paid 5000g to a guild for a bear rush... i dont know if its true, but i hope another guild can do it to me lol. Anyways i dont know the gear of that guy so... if he has T6 it would be so easy to do the time reward.(sry for my english if i did any mistake)

Comment by Tunasaladin

This particular mount will be discontinued at the start of Wrath of the Lich King. It will instead be replaced by an unknown item worth attaining. Players that have achieved the Amani War Bear during the Burning Crusade will also recieve an honorary title similar to that of the 'Hand of A'dal' and 'Champion of the Naaru'.

Comment by Heavy666

Lol if 5k gold is too many... i asked in my server (very bad server xD Spinebreaker) and i need to pay 9000 gold for that mount... 1000g for 45mins each person? lol....

Comment by Rinxy

Amani War Bear is obtained by completing a successful "Timed Run" in the Raid Dungeon called Zul'Aman that's located in the Ghostlands, the mount can only be picked up by 1 raid member, unless it's a guild run or pug run with certain priorities, who gets it is mostly ruled by rolls - may luck be with you. Someone consider this stupid but I myself like the idea of that the mount will be unobtainable in the upcoming expansion: Wrath of the Lich King.

Strangely people uses to go Nalorakk -> Akil'zon -> Jan'alai -> Halazzi, there's prooven that the best way is: Akil'zon -> Nalorakk -> Jan'alai -> Halazzi.In other words you've got 45 minutes on killing these very bosses, all the four bosses has the difficulty level of Prince Malchezaar, the last boss of Karazhan. As you kill some bosses you will notice the difficulty level gets higher and higher, it's recommended that you complete Karazhan before venturing into the depths of Zul'Aman.

At some servers you're able to buy boosts from farming teams/high end raiding guilds and acquire this mount pretty easily (though you have to farm all from 3-10k gold dependant on your server and who's boosting. When Zul'Aman was firstly released it took alot of skill to obtain this mount and most hardcore raiders have worked very hard to obtain these mounts, making it unable to obtain in Wrath of the Lich King makes it a token of skill and that you're a pre-wotlk player.

Honor to the Amani War Bear!

Comment by ludakrava

damn gonna pay this mount 6k gold to one guild on my realm to boost me :P some1 got better offer? plz tell me i can transfer to that server and buy mount for cheaper :D

Comment by annerajb

you are posting on the wrong place best bet is to post on the realms forum in my server they are sold for 4k to 6k with all loot from the bosses.

Comment by Sorrowbone

Just a little tip...

As you know the Vase which contains the War Bear is to your right, in the corner of the room, as you walk into Halazzi's room.

As you know she opens each Vase, the last one (the one I mentioned above) containing the Bear. If you dont want to wait, run up to the Vase, position your Camera Angle above it, and you should be able to see the bag. Simply right click it for it to open, without waiting for Ashli to open it.

However, you can not loot the piles of gold this way.

Comment by Rasztra

It is not the 4th chest you OPEN, but rather the chest of the 4th boss you kill.

Comment by Lang

So far we only knew that this mount will no longer be obtainable once WotlK hits the streets. But beware! Blizzard just announced that they will take the mount out with the last content patch, which will be released before WotlK!

Comment by Eanin

We've had a lot of success on our runs since we added a third tank. I know everyone says to bring two, but since one of them is a druid, he can dps whenever he's not needed to tank. That extra tank gives us a lot of flexibility on the pulls and a little bit of security if something goes wrong (like when we borked up the Lynx pull and our prot warrior ate a spirit lash). If someone dies, I hang back and rez while the group moves on, which speeds us up. Here's our group makeup:

Adding the third tank is what cinched it for us. Since we did that, we've had six straight successful runs. There's no need to rush, really. If we just kill everything systematically, we win every time. The trick is just to keep pulling and not die :).

Comment by Dragonskull1111

This item will not be obtainable after patch 3.0.1. 3.0.2

Comment by Timmeh

My guild have been farming these for the last few weeks (realistically, we could've been doing it for a lot longer, but it took the bear's imminent removal really kicked us into action). We're now doing timed runs every reset up to 3.0 and making it with at least 5 minutes to spare every run.

I won my bear tonight so I thought it'd be a good time to share some insight into how we do it, hopefully to help those still trying to achieve the run before 3.0 hits.

We have a lot of casters on board, ideally we'd have the two mages currently in G1 in G2 instead, but the healers need to be in there for the shadow priest's mana regen. The groups are re-arranged mid fight to allow for optimal use of heroism.

Things we've learnt from doing bear runs:

Take two healers and a shadow priest to provide mana for them while putting out damage. Three healers are unnecessary and result in the DPSers having to work extra hard, compensating for one extra person. In terms of healing classes for this run, many people will say that paladin + druid is optimal, but we've been equally successful with paladin + priest and paladin + shaman. Ultimately, if your healers are good and mixed classes, there shouldn't be a problem.

DPS should be overall averaging 1k - 1.2k per person for this run to be successful. The shadow priest can get away with doing a bit less (due to limitations on the class), but the mana they provide is invaluable to the healers. While I usually hate meters, as with any dps race, they're a necessary evil here to keep an eye on your dps and ensure they're not slacking off.

ZA timed seems to loves shamans (any spec) and mages. Shamans can heroism and provide great group buffs through their totems, mages can polymorph/spellsteal those damn flame casters as well as providing great AoE for the sections that require it. Excessive amounts of melee is not really favoured for the timed run, it puts a lot of people in one place and all but the bear boss have some form of localised AoE attack in their encounter (which greatly favours a raid that can spread out). AoE generally is appreciated, especially if you're using a prot paladin.

While fighting Akil'zon, have one raid member turn their ambient sound to max and disable all other sounds, listen out for rain starting and call to move in when they hear it (you have about 4 seconds). This is the only way to reliably gauge an incoming storm and avoid the whole raid getting into melee range for too long and taking 1 or more static disruptions - which can be disastrous with two healers.

While a lot of people do know about this, many more still don't. You can skip two pulls after the dragonhawk boss by heading towards the middle of the zone (near the stone altar - you can skip the pat by running down the side of the wall facing jan'alai). There's a steep hill you can run up with a pack of lynxes at the top. Pull and kill these. You will now see the patrol of two lynxes, two trolls in front of you - when they're towards the back of their pat route, run forwards, there's a hut to your left which has a window. Jump through the window and out the window on the other side, there's another hut next to it, again jump through the two windows. You can now run along past the exit to the lynx boss' chamber. Two packs skipped, time saved.

Use potions liberally. Mana users can even use them every cooldown, which while expensive cuts your time by minutes because you're not waiting for people to drink as much. Similarly, I'm a prot warrior in gear far exceeding what you'd need to do ZA normally, yet my health can still spike fairly low on certain bosses (especially when the healers are busy and dealing with a lot of raid damage). Do not think that you're too imba to need potions, take plenty, use them liberally. Flasks/elixirs are also an expensive but simple way to boost your raid's performance, especially while you're learning.

Best of luck to those still trying to achieve this, there will probably still be quite a few more resets before 3.0.x hits the live realms.

Comment by innajunglestylee

While a lot of people do know about this, many more still don't. You can skip two pulls after the dragonhawk boss by heading towards the middle of the zone (near the stone altar - you can skip the pat by running down the side of the wall facing jan'alai). There's a steep hill you can run up with a pack of lynxes at the top. Pull and kill these. You will now see the patrol of two lynxes, two trolls in front of you - when they're towards the back of their pat route, run forwards, there's a hut to your left which has a window. Jump through the window and out the window on the other side, there's another hut next to it, again jump through the two windows. You can now run along past the exit to the lynx boss' chamber. Two packs skipped, time saved.

One tip for Taurens (and possibly Draenei, I wouldn't know since I don't roll Alliance) -- you can have clipping issues with these windows; I nearly wiped us the first time we used this method because I couldn't fit my fat cow butt through the window. I'd suggest having Deviates/Noggenfogger/Orb of the Sin'Dorei ready to go when you get here and pop them off for the smaller form.

Comment by Xerilian

Has anyone heard anything on if this item will be replaced with something else once the newest patch comes out? Or will it just be removed from the drop table altogether with no real replacement item in the loot table?

Comment by Frowny

The drop on the PTR is just a second ring that comes from the 3rd timed event chest. 2 of the same ring can drop.

Comment by whitekite

Amani War Bear

Comment by Majiktusk

im getting this on sunday, so excited

Comment by Ruthulous

Correction; It will be unobtainable once Wrath goes live, not Patch 3.0.2.

Comment by lota7

good info...although having 3 healers is just gimp.With your raid gear, if your healers dont suck 2 is easy...even 1 is managable.

In any case, we use 2 healers, and we are only T5/badges geared, and our personal best is at 10minutes to spare.

If you say you managed 8 minutes left with 3 healers, you'd easily do 13mins with 2.

Comment by lota7

if you cant jump through here as a tauren you fail and should delete your char. better yet, leave wow.

Comment by adamb10

As of today(patch 3.0.2) this mount is no longer obtainable.

Comment by Eosorus

This mount can no longer be obtained after patch 3.0.2

Comment by Snipehunter

A small bit of trivia that Blizzard might not have intended:"Amani" is a Swahili word that means "peace", so you are riding around on a "Peace War Bear". There are quite a few other Swahili words used in the game, mostly in "safari" references, but none quite as funny as this. I got a bear the last day it dropped and I always lol when I see the name.

Comment by Loladin

With patch 3.0.2, this mount is no longer obtainable.

Comment by Smilomaniac

Amani War Bear along with the Riding Turtle, do not dissapear on use when you learn them.People might want to hold on to them, in case they become bound on account items.

Comment by odvratno

Its so unfair, what about players who started playing wow and didnt had time to get required gear for bear run? Blizzard really screwed up with this removal...P.S. This new bear mount is so damn ugly!

Comment by Donathan

ZA (like kara) is a joke now, any half-assed group of pugs could go in get 4 timed without really much thought. my ZA group(pre-patch) was really really close to getting a bear mount, but were unable to pull it together in time. oh well, just another one of those things i will never get to see in game.

Comment by Gorgaro

QQ

"this is for the 10 word minimum"

Comment by evera

The bear was removed, but no title was awarded.

A feat of strength is awarded for having the mount.

Comment by Fipsh

As of Patch 3.0, the bear has been removed, and the fourth chest now drops the same rings as you get from the third timed chest.

Comment by TheDesertWolf

As of 3.0.2: Echoes of Doom the Amani War Bear is no longer a obtainable item.

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Comment by Kinka

You can do the Raptor and Tiger boss drops a million times and never see it drop. Players had an unprecedented amount of control over receiving the Bear Mount. You are limited by Raid lockouts and drop rates for the Tiger and Raptor (and Baron and Raven...)

The Bear Mount on the other hand is just limited to a lockout. Once mastered, one is guaranteed every week. My guild never quite got to that fourth chest. We were doing three chest runs before patch. After patch, we are getting through the fourth chest with about 6-7 minutes left over. It is obscenely easy, and even though I don't have the bear, I agree that it should have been removed.

Comment by hoplow73

Supposed to be a unique mount. To the point that they made it an Achievement under Feats of Strength. As it is they are everywhere, it is not unique atm. It isn't meant for everyone to be able to do it, wasn't meant to be available forever, and they indicated it would be dropped off the loot table.

This isn't unique, Blizzard has done this before and will do it again. Those that have things like the Arcanite Ripper, Vampire Batling, AQ mount and numerous other unique, limited time to aquire items are meant to be a badge of honor. They did a whole event to open the gates of AQ but only a handful of people actually participated in the opening of the gates. I did plenty of donations for commendations, yet I don't have one of the insect mounts.

This is not be confused with yearly world events like the holiday content. Totally different. Lets not water it down any more than it is, some things aren't meant to be easy mode available for all. This resembles real life, sometimes you don't get what you want. So pick a goal and go after it.

By the way, if not getting pixels upsets you this much maybe you shouldn't play. It's a game and should be fun.

(Before you flame me I don't have a warbear either. I'm going after Baron's deathcharger. It's much more rare.)

Comment by DemonsRemorse

Like the person above me said, the ZG Tiger and Raptor mounts are VERY rare. Whle the bear was a surefire thing.

Really, comparing the two is kind of a bad argument.

Comment by Banawani

Taurens on Kodos can't fit anywhere.

Comment by turtleeatsalot

how do i buy the bear mount

Comment by lolcakes4life

oh this is a shame... for now this will be one of 6 mounts to rarely be seen again with the release of WotLK

Comment by Eanin

It's nice to see that even with the new expansion, these mounts remain unique. There is a new armored bear mount, but it is no where near as awesome looking as this one.

Since all we keep using between expansions are mounts and titles, this will be one of the most worthwhile items to have gotten from TBC.

Comment by Armina

Does anyone know if this mount became "bound to account?"

I deleted all my pets and mounts when Blizzard sent us copies (after I made sure they were learned). Probably wishful thinking but I would love to put my bear mount on my Death Knight. I can't find anyone to ask either since everyone I know who has a bear mount did the same thing I did.

Comment by Draquel

The Amani War Bear: Blizzard's excuse for putting a rideable chode into the game.

Comment by fozzyuw

It's suppose to be a unique mount.

I'm sorry but this IS a poor argument because the bear is simply not unique anymore. Trying to make it so by removing it's one "easy" access would be as sledgehammer as randomly deleting the bear from peoples accounts "just to make it rare".

With that said, if it does (and I hope it does) still drop off the loot table (even at the typical 0.1% chance) I hope they change the bear around a little bit to distinguish it between the "easy" mount and the "rare" mount. Change the colors around or something. Add a small yellow text to the description. That would be appreciated.

For people like me who would have loved to get one, but didn't have the chance.

Comment by Limbero

IMO, they should make the bear a rare drop from Zul'Jin (or the Bear Avatar), it's one of the best looking mounts in-game and it's a shame that it's no longer obtainable.

Comment by Kickfilp

In WoTLK it's removed.

Comment by Varllok

That is not true

Comment by Eviang

I think Blizzard should have never taken this mount away. Awesome mounts (but stupid) like the instant-cast broom it's ok to take out after the event but, why leave a mount you couldn't get on your own like any other world drop item? Is like saying that they're gonna take away the Blue Proto-Dragon after a while. What would happen then? In my case, I've done UP docens of times (6 out of 7 days per week or so) and never even saw it. Would Blizzard tell me "Well, I'm sorry but it's clear that you didn't run the istance that much"? I have and I deseve it but still, no matter what patch and level I'm playing in a couple of years, I will still want to run UP to get the mount.

Comment by Xanark

Is it true?I cant get this mount anymore?:(

Comment by Majiktusk

I want this to be BoA, I have it on one of my char's and want it on the rest. Only this one because its no longer drops.

Comment by MrCrowT

Currently there is a clipping error with the Amani War Bear, which still exists as of 3.0.9. The rider seems to be sitting inside the back of the bear, completely hidding the legs of the rider most of the time. The rider's torso appears welded to the back of the bear, turning them into some weird, conjoined Man-Bear (sans Pig). Looks completely stupid, and unfortunately is keeping me from enjoying my personal favorite mount.

Comment by Limbero

I heard that the war bear was only taken from the chest drop and it's still a drop within the instance. All be it at a obscenely low drop rate, much like the raptor and tiger. Making it a trial of patience as opposed to skill as it was before.

This part isn't true, Blizzard have said that it is no longer obtainable. The rest, I agree with you on.

Comment by Sophronis

well yeah man but if they would leave the bear in the game and be obtainable by a timed run in ZA then what we that got the bear would say that were trying so hard for the time thingie?

Comment by kierah

This is one of the only mounts for which the item name is the same as the name of the spell you cast to mount up. The consequence is that if you still have your Amani War Bear item, you won't be able to cast the spell Amani War Bear in a mount macro because the name ends up resolving to the item instead of the spell. (Most other mounts have item names like Reins of the Black War Bear and spell names like Black War Bear.)

Comment by tenten

also /mountspecial animations are broken. (not working at all)

Comment by koa999

In the 2009 arena tournament, any toon you created would start out with this mount, and could purchase Armored Brown Bear.

Comment by Doomsythe

now with WOTLK i have heard you now cannot get the amani war bear even if you do make the 4th timed chest. i have heard this from many people attempting to get it, but i am not sure. can any1 clarify and tell me if this truly is the case?

Thanks in advance

Doomsythe, Lightnings Blade EU

Comment by Taari

Why Write So Much ? :S The Mount Has 100% Drop Rate^^

Comment by mutsop

I just happen to hear this today that the mount aint available anymore.A pitty though. I suppose it's a good thing on the other hand else you would just need 1 or 2 lvl 80's to go along.

But still, I looked forward to the day to get one of these.

Gratz thought to those who have one :)

Comment by Fertas

The most beautiful mount ever. Too bad all the other mounts suck and Blizzard knows this, so they removed this one from the game. What a shame and what a nonsense.

Comment by Sandshrew

They took it out with great reason. This mount represents the goods from the bads. Blizzard knew if they kept it in they would have every Dk in the game with one. ROFL I think not. The Amani War Bear is an item of high prestige and blizzard wanted everyone who earned it to be recognized for getting it at level 70, not a bunch of scrub DK's or people who clear ZA at 80.

Comment by Varllok

Because those mounts only have a small CHANCE of dropping and are not guaranteed like the Amani War Bear was.

Comment by Miranger

As much as i'd like to say having this mount shows "skill" it trully does NOT!I saw alot of Guild masters and Officers ninja this mount for no good reason.Alot of shady guilds would just use some retarded DKP system in a 10man and take it themselfsalot of the people like myself and many others who saw this happen went elsewhere to get theirs.I got mine but i had to find myself a good guild before i had a chance and not because getting the 4th chest was hard, but because too many ninjas would take it so u outta find a guild that will have a fair system when deciding whos getting it ala 3drake OS.

Comment by thelazypeon

It took "skill" to get this mount? No, it really didn't. It was interesting at first because it was very unique. Only a handful of people had it when Zul'Aman came out.

Then servers, like mine, became flooded with these ugly bears. The reason is, is because people "sold" mount runs.

You could easily carry 2 people through ZA and it was done many times. "WTB Amani War Bear 3000g PST!" Thats what happened, all the time. If you had money and wanted this mount, you would probably be guaranteed it.

Personally I think the best looking bears now are the Dalaran Brown Bear and the Black War Bear.

Comment by Ademartenax

how can I get one bear?I need to kill all bosses?

Comment by jakemara

I was sad when Blizzard took out the Amani war bear that was the coolest mount ever. They should put it back in a level 80 dungeon. Then it makes it just as hard for people to get. it was hard enough before had to defeat the first 4 bosses within 45 minutes. I also do agree with Sandshrew. If everyone had one it wouldn't be cool anymore so Blizzard did have reason but they could put it back in the game and make it harder to get.

Comment by Refardeonn

They made it smaller, which SOMEWHAT ruins the looks of it.But I still think it looks awesome.And I still use it.

Comment by Gandazar

This should have been left in the game with the same conditions: it would only drop if everyone in the raid was under level 71.

Yes, I know some northrend items are usable before level 71, but they are generally worse than (or on par with) T5 items, so they would not make the bear and achievement particularly easier to get, compared to well-geared level 70s doing it before WotLK.

Comment by Suprem

I think that this mount it's one of the most beautiful mounts in wow . My friend got lucky with a farm group that raided ZA every 2 days pre removal ! If you have this mount today it shows that you have brains and are a quality player :P . Gratz to all that have this bear.

Comment by Banashne

Blizz should make the mount come back and have it be a very low drop rate from the last boss.

If it were as low as the Attumen's mount you would barely see new people on it.

Comment by darkeye18

God damn it, I started playing wow again, and really really wanted to get this mount. I was browsing to see feats of strenght and I see it's no longer obtainable. QQ I'm not getting any mount I'm gonna stay mountless.

Comment by macrodiablo

Ah the mighty kitchen bear, it's magnificent fruit bowl that fits over it's head, the beautiful checkered table cloth that sits upon it's saddle and the large icepicks that adorn its sides!

How lucky those chosen few chefs are that get to ride it!

Comment by gkeebler

This mount is still obtainable! Obtain Hex sticks, use them on frogs, the frogs turn into humans etc that you can obtain "Ashli's Bag" from. This will in turn drop the mount at a low drop rate.

Comment by Furydeath

I still have this sitting in my bank with my deathcharger anda DK mount.

Comment by Verttex

Links don't work.

Comment by biker951

i want one...name is bloodmana realm is alexstraza

Comment by aceofmen

its CRAP

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Comment by opabroek

In my opinion it's stupid why don't just make the timer lower from 20 minuts to 10..Alot of people have the right on a Amani warbear too.Or just increase the instance from lvl 70 to 85 in cataclysm like Onyxia.

Comment by lizbliz

I still regard removing this from the game as one of the most retarded, pampering to player e-peen decisions blizzard has made to date. There was some bs about how it wouldn't be a challenge and such to get the bear after the patch. Let me tell you, it wasn't much of a challenge prior to that. People could buy runs, buying runs doesn't take any skill, only mindless farming of gold. Blizzard just knew that if people could go back at 80 and get the mount that in any way that some &*!@#$ that defined his happiness in life in that he had some pixels someone else didn't and no one else could get those pixels, would complain.

Should they have let it remain a auto drop in a timed run? No, but it should have remained in the game as a random drop at 1%, similar to almost any other rare drop mount, non of which blizzard has felt the need to remove to this day.

Makes me sad when I see blizzard pamper to the egos of people who derive a feeling of elitism associated not with their skill, but from the objects they have that others can't get.

Comment by Ironjonson

someone can tell me where in zul'aman is tha bear please ! thanks

Comment by Lotte

This comment is pretty depressing on your part. For someone who claims that Amani Bear Mount owners find their life's happiness within their World of Warcraft mount, you're throwing quite a tantrum over the fact that you can't get one anymore. If the mount were to be brought back into the game as a low drop rate in Zul'Aman, I suppose that should apply to every other rare and now-unattainable mount. Black Qiraji Resonating Crystal should be a rare drop from AQ40, Gladiator Frost Wyrms should drop from players in Wintergrasp, etc.

People act like there's some sort of shame in not having a War Bear. There's not. You're not the only person to miss your opportunity to get a rare mount, nor is it the only opportunity you'll ever get. If you want a cool mount, get your ICC meta done. Leave the War Bears to players who worked hard in tBC, and (as elitist as this will probably sound) want something to show for it in WotLK/Cata.

Comment by lphomiej

It's pretty cool if u had it before they took it out of the game, but i agree that it should have been left at a 1% drop rate. Give people a reason to go back to ZA. It was a really cool instance.

Comment by Ausn

Earlier we used to do sell-runs every ID.I was always to cheap to buy me one :s.If we just rolled for it I lost..its a whine post, yes.But just because I miss him so much my war bear aww :(.

Nowdays I would pay all I have to ride on him again.Loved Zul Aman, loved Amani War Bear - best Mount ingame.

Comment by stonebeard

Why they just couldnt care about that. I mean developers.

Comment by killsey10

Its really too bad that you can not get this mount anymore.A group of guildies and I did this instance last night and we had such a good time.Most of us had never been inside and was surprised how much fun we had.

Comment by kay97

yo quisiera saber si en el server lastwow lo dejan soy ali

Comment by Cubedout

Would be nice if Blizzard made this Bind on account for those who obtained this before. Some people no longer play their Burning Crusade mains as much as they did. The bears are dying out.

Comment by Kscrublol

I'd seriously do anything if Blizzard would make Zul'Aman as a lvl 85 raid instance in Cataclysm, and put this mount back in game. =)

Comment by fiffer13

It appears that this mount has been added back into the game via the shattering patch as a rare drop off of Gamon

Comment by Craxen

It is good that they removed it and I hope not they make it drop again in another raid in cata. Some mounts are supose to be rare and unable to get in the future. Like this one, if you have Amani War Bear it shows you have been pro in TBC.

PS. bad spelling / grammar

Comment by Kscrublol

Are you being serious? The bear runs were not even hard. People pugged that ^&*! on my server, what you needed was 10 decent players that knew what to do without $%^&ing up at any time, which is not exactly hard.

Ulduar were easier? Firefighter 25 sup.. Yeah, don't even compare a bear run to Firefighter in Ulduar gear.

Comment by Craxen

Well Kscrublol

I dont know when you recieved your drakes, and the expansion Wrath of the Lich King all drake achievements are "faceroll" at 80, even more @ 85. The Amani War Bear were A LOT harder to get than any of WOTLK drakes.

For example, you could still get Ulduar drakes when the Icecrown Citadel patch came, so if you had ICC gear you could "outgear" the instance pretty much. And I know some says "Skills before gear" well yea, have your ICC gear + a brained guild run and gz to drakes or w/e.

Same with the ICC drakes, very very easy. After a few weeks of the release you got the buff "30% more dmg, healing, hp" which made it pace of cake even at 80. And lvl 85 + the 30% buff ....... think yourself :P could not get any easier.

Comment by Craxen

If blizz put ZA back in cata they fail. There is only a few mounts you can't get today, and let it be so. It is like "gz to the one that opened the AQ door and got the only scarab mount ingame you can use outside AQ"

And then its like "BLUE POST next expansion players will be able to get scarab mount from a profession"

-_-

anyhow I will stop commenting this Item now. We all have our different views about it.

Comment by Deactivated1664

I have this mount after working very hard to get it when Zul'Aman was current. I am also VERY glad that Blizzard removed it. Because when I did Zul'Aman the day after Patch 3.0.2 came out we had fifteen (15) minutes remaining. This mount is in the same class as the Black Scarab mount because only best got it.

If they had left it in then everyone, I mean EVERYONE would have one and there would be no vanity. It's the same for the Ulduar and ICC drakes. You can still get there and because so many people have one there is much less vanity attached to them.

Comment by Furydeath

I have it still sitting in my bank now if only they made mount BoA. :D

Comment by Sixpac

There is hope that this mount will return in Cataclysm. Quote "Zarhym" as of 2/14/2011:

"One never knows what might happen with Zul'Aman and the treasures of old found therein...".

Comment by Coldkil

they could just put it into again as very low % drop from 4th chest.

Comment by nvidia290

As of 4.1 they will be re introducing ZA and ZG and new Amani war bear with a new color scheme.

Comment by starvethedead

Today Blizzard announced that both Zul'gurub and Zul'aman will be reintroduced as level 85 5-player dungeons! They will offer epic gear! And best of all, new versions of the ZG mounts (raptor and cat), as well as a new ZA BEAR will be obtainable!

The Gurubashi Tribe Persists

Originally a 20-player dungeon released in patch 1.7, Zul'Gurub will once again open its gates, featuring updated lore, all-new encounters, achievements, and improved loot! Zul'Gurub is now a level-85 five-player Heroic difficulty dungeon. To provide a new tier above the current Cataclysm dungeons, players can expect to find epic-quality item level 353 loot. The minimum average item level to enter this Heroic dungeon is 346.

The Return of Zul'Aman

Ever a player favorite, the level-70 ten-player dungeon of Zul'Aman is being reintroduced as a level-85 Heroic five-player dungeon. Zul'Aman will join Zul'Gurub in a new Dungeon Finder tier of Heroic dungeons, providing epic-quality item level 353 loot. The minimum average item level to enter this Heroic dungeon is also 346. While Zul'Aman will be more of a throwback to the original dungeon featuring many of the same encounters, players can expect to find some updated gameplay mechanics, as well as new environment textures and lighting.

With the Zuls returning, you may be wondering about the unique mounts that were once contained therein. We're pleased to announce that new versions of the rare raptor, tiger, and bear mounts will be available, while the old versions of these mounts will remain unique to those who already have them. We'll reveal more about how these updated mounts can be obtained in the future.

Comment by rigel

For you that think this is merely an update for the exisiting removed Amani War Bear, please notice that the original which was removed with 3.0.8 had itemnumber 33809, while the new version is not only name differently, but also had a different ID.

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Comment by midnightstar

I missed this at level 70--I was just finishing up Kara raiding at the time--so helloooooooooooo Amani Battle Bear. You might be purple instead of orange, but I'll love you anyways.

Comment by clavarnway

Everybody knows the original is better, but it's nice to have options for people who weren't around when it was originally available, or just couldn't do it for one reason or another.

Comment by Deactivated1664

We all know the War Bears are faster anyways.

Comment by wellcool

I actually got this mount on my first go at timed, which was with a pug ( I was tanking) I enjoyed it as I prefer to pull fast :)

I got random za again few days later, and I said to the group that I would be pulling fast witht he aim of doing it on timed, even though I have the mount already.

We killed the last timed boss with 8 minutes space..........

So if you are lucky to get 4 other people of equal skill/gear, Timed is really really really easy :P

On a side note, The mount is of basic design if I am being honest, but beats the standard kodo...

Comment by Stjimmy

Wrong bear bro.

Comment by tot2171

Get your fact right Wowhead.The item is available to players.

Comment by SpiderX3m

Please Blizzard don't ruin old players' joy by putting this in your black market AH.We earned the right for this mount to be unique.And for the trolls who are going to downvote this because they "didn't have the chance" to get the mount back then...well tough !@#$...

Comment by brottarstig89

i asked a GM 3 months ago. and i will show u what i asked

me: will the amani war bear be sold in BMAH?

GM: this mount is unobtainable so u will be able to see this mount in BMAH

or something like that hope you will be able to see it on BMAH

Comment by Solacelol

Is anyone else's bear randomly emoting when you are sitting still?

Comment by Kendrxx

With account wide mounts, now all of my characters can appreciate this awesome mount. You bet you'll turn heads in bgs with this one on a level 20 alt :P

Comment by Wowgamergirl12

I JUST (08/06/2014) got this mount 5 mintues ago on Stormrage Realm. This obviously STILL DROPS!

Comment by Tellymon

Why doth my ber persistently lean to the left like a gangbanger with a 40oz? yOU AINT GANGSTA!

Comment by Tellymon

Why doth my ber persistently lean to the left like a gangbanger with a 40oz? yOU AINT GANGSTA YOGI!

Comment by Wuatdah

This should be added to the Black Market AH, because they added the tiger and raptor why not this to complete the set?

Comment by Curzondax

I can Confirm that this is still in the Game and actually can be obtained through a Rare 100 ilevel 675 Garrison Mission as the reward

My Jaw DROPPED when I saw this

Comment by Atno

This just showed up on my missions today. On one toon with the highest followers it showed up as an iLvl 675 mission and I could only get a 93% chance, but on a lower level alt, I got 100% chance with two iLvl 615 followers

Comment by Curzondax

BEWARE!

Do not fall for this. It's an APRIL FOOLS joke by Elvui!(##RESPBREAK##)16##DELIM##Sas148##DELIM##

Comment by Gwardraal

I just got a rare garrison mission called "How ya doin mon!" that says it gives an Amani War Bear. I hope this isn't Blizzard's idea of an April Fools joke... It remains to be seen if I get the bear, and whether it gives me the achievement.

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Comment by Furydeath

Still have it sitting in my bank all we need are mounts to be BoE now.

Comment by Izaria

They reallly ruined this mount by touching the design of it in 8.0....... like what the heck man, why would they touch the design of the mount and the nose!

Comment by RantsiProduction

This mount has been remodeled in BFA.

Comment by Grizzelbart

Aw I wish it was still possible to get it :'(((

Comment by Kaorhy

What is wrong with the artists lately ? They changed the essence of a prestigious mount by removing the essence and the fire glow.

Who gave the green light for this ?

Comment by Monomatapa

I just got it today. A little, but important note though:If you do Zul'aman right, you've killed the boss Halazzi last (of the four needed to free the prisoners).You're not done though. You have to wait for the prisoner Kasha, the one you just freed, to play her little game of flame-bolting vases. The last one she does contains a bag with the Amani Battle Bear.So its not a boss drop!