It's not about distance, it's about starting time. I just want a couple more hours of sleep on Saturday AM that's all. I don't want to plan the rally, I don't want to criticize the current regime, I don't mind riding to get to events, I just want to sleep a little more.

In pursuit of that goal I suggested that the ride start later and maybe be moved to a more central location. The only reason I suggest moving it is so I can sleep longer. Mostly starting later would help me and all the other drunks who stay up late on Friday night.

well, it sounded as if it were about both. and we can ALL give (& take) a little ragging every now & then!

9/10am *IS* painfully early though... and I say this as someone who RAN the rally--using the same painfully early start times-- AND as someone who plays host to at least some of the (crazy party animal) out-of-towners each year.

There's a give & take on everything, though. a later start time makes it less likely to have any break between the day & evening activities... which I also like to have...

some of us old guys at the rally would like to start at sun up.
Because we are up and going at that time of the morning.
But we know what life is all about and just go with the flow.
My thoughts.
Marty