This REALLY sucks. Not only is he the GOAT defensively. Maybe on either side of the ball. The intangible leadership he brought will never be seen again. REALLY bummer news.

You really think he's the GOAT? Not LT?

I never really got to see LT, but I'd say in the time since I've been actively watching football, Lewis has been the best for sure. I just know a lot of people say LT is the GOAT because of how much he changed the game back then.

You have to factor in how Ray Lewis's intangibles effected everything else. His will and desire is reflected in every Ravens player. Watching and listening Ray pregame or on the sideline would've inspired Superman to walk again. Plus, Ray Ray had fewer issues than LT. He's one of a kind.

The Ravens dont get a SB without him. And AREN'T perennial playoff teams without him. Billick isn't a good coach, and he won there.

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Saw in the same twitter streams that the thinking is that this is Ed Reed's last year with the team. Not sure why but those are two cornerstone players that will have to be replaced. I am sure with Ray, the Ravens already have started moving on as far as a physical replacement. I am sure new leaders will emerge in time.

I think he's one of they best defensive players ever. I doubt he last long as a commentator because there are many people like me that know he made it possible for a friend of his to commit murder and get away with it.

The night of their SB victory they were out partying and a friend of his got into a fight with someone and stabbed them to death. Ray took the guy and the murder weapon away from the scene in his limo to keep the police from getting him.

Later when the police finally caught up with him to avoid being charged as an accessory he agreed to testify against his friend. On the stand he welched big time and the guy walked

A sad time and I realize he came up from the streets and his loyalty to his friend was stronger than to a dead stranger. But I've never forgotten and I'd wager there are many others that haven't and would confront anyone who tried to employ him if he was going to be on TV.

The Radish wrote:I think he's one of they best defensive players ever. I doubt he last long as a commentator because there are many people like me that know he made it possible for a friend of his to commit murder and get away with it.

The night of their SB victory they were out partying and a friend of his got into a fight with someone and stabbed them to death. Ray took the guy and the murder weapon away from the scene in his limo to keep the police from getting him.

Later when the police finally caught up with him to avoid being charged as an accessory he agreed to testify against his friend. On the stand he welched big time and the guy walked

A sad time and I realize he came up from the streets and his loyalty to his friend was stronger than to a dead stranger. But I've never forgotten and I'd wager there are many others that haven't and would confront anyone who tried to employ him if he was going to be on TV.

Thank you. A voice of reason. It should also be noted that lewis settled a civil suit out of court with the two families. Some believe the sum was $10,000,000. Innocent men don't do that and it has long been speculated that Lewis did more than just watch these two kids get stabbled to death. I won't miss the punk and for those that will...check yourselves.

The Radish wrote:I think he's one of they best defensive players ever. I doubt he last long as a commentator because there are many people like me that know he made it possible for a friend of his to commit murder and get away with it.

The night of their SB victory they were out partying and a friend of his got into a fight with someone and stabbed them to death. Ray took the guy and the murder weapon away from the scene in his limo to keep the police from getting him.

Later when the police finally caught up with him to avoid being charged as an accessory he agreed to testify against his friend. On the stand he welched big time and the guy walked

A sad time and I realize he came up from the streets and his loyalty to his friend was stronger than to a dead stranger. But I've never forgotten and I'd wager there are many others that haven't and would confront anyone who tried to employ him if he was going to be on TV.

This. The guy is a crook and an accessory to murder. Not someone I want my kids to use as a role model. I don't care how good of a player he is, where did his white suit go????? If it were you or I, we'd still be in prison. He also settled out of court with the victims family in civil court. Good riddance I say, all the Ray Lewis love around the league makes me want to wretch.

The Radish wrote:I think he's one of they best defensive players ever. I doubt he last long as a commentator because there are many people like me that know he made it possible for a friend of his to commit murder and get away with it.

The night of their SB victory they were out partying and a friend of his got into a fight with someone and stabbed them to death. Ray took the guy and the murder weapon away from the scene in his limo to keep the police from getting him.

Later when the police finally caught up with him to avoid being charged as an accessory he agreed to testify against his friend. On the stand he welched big time and the guy walked

A sad time and I realize he came up from the streets and his loyalty to his friend was stronger than to a dead stranger. But I've never forgotten and I'd wager there are many others that haven't and would confront anyone who tried to employ him if he was going to be on TV.

Thank you. A voice of reason. It should also be noted that lewis settled a civil suit out of court with the two families. Some believe the sum was $10,000,000. Innocent men don't do that and it has long been speculated that Lewis did more than just watch these two kids get stabbled to death. I won't miss the punk and for those that will...check yourselves.

Psst, those that try to tell people how to remember this or that athlete... check yourselves.

I'm heartbroken. He's done so much for Baltimore. What a loss, but his decision to retire to watch his son play football in college and spend time with his family is respectable. He'll continue to do great things off the field. It's crazy to think the Ravens have never existed without him.

The Radish wrote:I think he's one of they best defensive players ever. I doubt he last long as a commentator because there are many people like me that know he made it possible for a friend of his to commit murder and get away with it.

The night of their SB victory they were out partying and a friend of his got into a fight with someone and stabbed them to death. Ray took the guy and the murder weapon away from the scene in his limo to keep the police from getting him.

Later when the police finally caught up with him to avoid being charged as an accessory he agreed to testify against his friend. On the stand he welched big time and the guy walked

A sad time and I realize he came up from the streets and his loyalty to his friend was stronger than to a dead stranger. But I've never forgotten and I'd wager there are many others that haven't and would confront anyone who tried to employ him if he was going to be on TV.

This. The guy is a crook and an accessory to murder. Not someone I want my kids to use as a role model. I don't care how good of a player he is, where did his white suit go????? If it were you or I, we'd still be in prison. He also settled out of court with the victims family in civil court. Good riddance I say, all the Ray Lewis love around the league makes me want to wretch.

Like he's the only athlete who's done something wrong? It was a long time ago, and he is responsible for so much good in Baltimore in the past decade or so. There's no replacing him, ever.

The Radish wrote:I think he's one of they best defensive players ever. I doubt he last long as a commentator because there are many people like me that know he made it possible for a friend of his to commit murder and get away with it.

The night of their SB victory they were out partying and a friend of his got into a fight with someone and stabbed them to death. Ray took the guy and the murder weapon away from the scene in his limo to keep the police from getting him.

Later when the police finally caught up with him to avoid being charged as an accessory he agreed to testify against his friend. On the stand he welched big time and the guy walked

A sad time and I realize he came up from the streets and his loyalty to his friend was stronger than to a dead stranger. But I've never forgotten and I'd wager there are many others that haven't and would confront anyone who tried to employ him if he was going to be on TV.

This. The guy is a crook and an accessory to murder. Not someone I want my kids to use as a role model. I don't care how good of a player he is, where did his white suit go????? If it were you or I, we'd still be in prison. He also settled out of court with the victims family in civil court. Good riddance I say, all the Ray Lewis love around the league makes me want to wretch.

Like he's the only athlete who's done something wrong? It was a long time ago, and he is responsible for so much good in Baltimore in the past decade or so. There's no replacing him, ever.

No replacing the Daddy of that little kid he helped kill either. Sheesh.......

The Radish wrote:I think he's one of they best defensive players ever. I doubt he last long as a commentator because there are many people like me that know he made it possible for a friend of his to commit murder and get away with it.

The night of their SB victory they were out partying and a friend of his got into a fight with someone and stabbed them to death. Ray took the guy and the murder weapon away from the scene in his limo to keep the police from getting him.

Later when the police finally caught up with him to avoid being charged as an accessory he agreed to testify against his friend. On the stand he welched big time and the guy walked

A sad time and I realize he came up from the streets and his loyalty to his friend was stronger than to a dead stranger. But I've never forgotten and I'd wager there are many others that haven't and would confront anyone who tried to employ him if he was going to be on TV.

Thank you. A voice of reason. It should also be noted that lewis settled a civil suit out of court with the two families. Some believe the sum was $10,000,000. Innocent men don't do that and it has long been speculated that Lewis did more than just watch these two kids get stabbled to death. I won't miss the punk and for those that will...check yourselves.

Psst, those that try to tell people how to remember this or that athlete... check yourselves.

Checking myself...... Still checking..... Checking analyzing.....I didn't help anyone murder anyone else and help them get away with it........... Checking complete.

"If we lose ... this place will be a Carnival of Stupidity." FlyingGreg

HawkWow wrote:Thank you. A voice of reason. It should also be noted that lewis settled a civil suit out of court with the two families. Some believe the sum was $10,000,000. Innocent men don't do that and it has long been speculated that Lewis did more than just watch these two kids get stabbled to death. I won't miss the punk and for those that will...check yourselves.

Psst, those that try to tell people how to remember this or that athlete... check yourselves.

Checking myself...... Still checking..... Checking analyzing.....I didn't help anyone murder anyone else and help them get away with it........... Checking complete.

Nor did any of us who appreciated Lewis' play on the field and attempts to change himself off of it. So those of you who want to be sanctimonious blowhards over Lewis' retirement, feel free... just quit telling the rest us how to remember him.

volsunghawk wrote:Nor did any of us who appreciated Lewis' play on the field and attempts to change himself off of it. So those of you who want to be sanctimonious blowhards over Lewis' retirement, feel free... just quit telling the rest us how to remember him.

volsunghawk wrote:Nor did any of us who appreciated Lewis' play on the field and attempts to change himself off of it. So those of you who want to be sanctimonious blowhards over Lewis' retirement, feel free... just quit telling the rest us how to remember him.

Well said!

Another ditto. People can change, and I really have believed that Lewis's personae now is more than just an act. I know I'll remember him more for his murders on the field than the alleged one off it.

The Radish wrote:.... But I've never forgotten and I'd wager there are many others that haven't and would confront anyone who tried to employ him if he was going to be on TV.

Ray Lewis expected to sign a multi-year deal with ESPN effective upon his retirement.

Ravens' Lewis set to join ESPN in retirement

ESPN is on the verge of adding Ray Lewis to its talent lineup, Richard Deitsch of Sports Illustrated reports.

Multiple sources have said the Ravens linebacker is close to signing a multi-year contract with the network. At ESPN, Lewis is expected to have a significant role on the network's Monday Night Countdown program. As with most ESPN NFL talent, Lewis would also be featured on multiple platforms, including ESPN Radio.

No formal announcement from Lewis or the network is expected until the conclusion of the Ravens season. Lewis announced Wednesday that he planned to retire at the end of Baltimore's season. The Ravens host the Colts on Sunday in the AFC WIld Card round.