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Token

Domowitch – “Eagles have 4 TEs on their 53-man roster, yet just 61 of their 344 offensive plays (18%) have used more than 1 tight end.”

Andy124

Nice start!

RIP illa

Finally some DJ2!!!

RIP illa

Nice play calling on that drive. Loving the shortening of routes. Can’t remember the last time we ran shallow crosses.

Token

Great start. Nice to see Johnson getting snaps.

Pennguino

bwahahahaha…QB draw

Andy124

Nick foles will kill you with his legs.

RIP illa

I’ve been hearing all this optimistic talk of Glennon…SMH!!! The knock on him coming outta college and the draft is all to true. If you get the hint of pressure on him, his game falls to shite. Dude’s way to skittish!!!

RIP illa

To bad we suck at getting consistent pressure on opposing QBs

RIP illa

Ced Thorton having a really good year. Nice play

Pennguino

That play takes me back to Bruce Lee. When he looks at his opponent and says “Now these are as deadly as these” while pointing to his legs.

RIP illa

Fletch deciding to ball out today!

Adam

Ballin!

Pennguino

Ballin!

Adam

Chip, Release the kraken! Make em pay for going 3 and out. Let’s see that warp speed tempo again.

RIP illa

Definitely think he will. Their O is so bad. I have a feeling that Chip’s gonna try and put this one to bed early.

Adam

I’d love to see a blowout.

RIP illa

Or…shady could do that

Pennguino

Where is the pressure

RIP illa

Are you asking that for since the beginning of the season or just this game???

Pennguino

haha…Can’t change the past Need it this game to shut them down and make it hopefully a blowout

RIP illa

I hear ya

Pennguino

Watch the fake.

Pennguino

Nice conversion

#7

Loss of 9. Cmon Nick lets get that ball out. Good job so far

RIP illa

Does that mean Nick struggles reading blitzes???

#7

No comment. Not going there today. Long as we win I don’t care

RIP illa

Lol. Love the no comment. It was just a joke but I definitely feel ya. Had to restrain myself from posting on the batted ball.

#7

Yep

RIP illa

At least we’re getting good at forcing intentional groundings!!!

Pennguino

Nice. Need everything we can get. Will be a hard defensive battle today

RIP illa

That’s exactly what I’m talking about on the last 2 plays…Glennon sucks!!!

EDIT: The slightest pressure and he falls apart. There’s no way we should even come close to losing this game today.

#7

Man these Bucs are terrible. Would be a shame if we can’t score on these guys even if Barkley was in the game

Token

Top 5-10 d in every catagory. Try to pay attention to the league instead of one player. If you thought this would be easy you were mistaken.

#7

Never said it would be easy. I’ve said all week that TB’s record shouldn’t be overlooked. But if their QB can’t complete a pass hardly and we’ve had a couple of three and outs….

Not trying to argue today Token

Token

I get what your saying. If Vick was in wed score every drive am i right?

#7

Press Ctrl+F and type in Vick and see if you find one post saying that Vick would score on every drive.

Don’t worry I’ll wait

RIP illa

Don’t worry bout Token…he’s just a narrow minded dude that only sees his hate for Vick which blinds him into typing idiotic post!

RIP illa

And so is our O minus redzone efficiency!!! O has been set up to trump D in this league sooo…try and pay attention!!!

#7

Holding the ball too long. Could have been a fumble

RIP illa

Staring down too…but we won’t talk about that! I will say that if that was Vick taking that hit it woulda been a sack. Foles is big and his size/weight definitely helped us avoid the worst case scenario on that play.

RIP illa

Thank you Donnie!!!

Pennguino

One quarter down. Lets win the second quarter now. Keep putting up some points.

RIP illa

Chung playing well but seriously hurting.

Pennguino

That opening score was the first opening score all year. Lets build on it

#7

TD Bucs. Oh Lord here we go..

RIP illa

Fletch…your “ballin” status has been revoked!!! Get it back!

Token

I dont think Johnson should ever run out. These STs stink considering all the ST aces we kept

RIP illa

Thank you Bucs for going zone!!!

Brandon Boykin, OLB

Foles can be my starter. I’d be ok with that.

RIP illa

If he consistently showed that he could make plays instead of short routes and having his receivers make plays for him…he could be mine too. I support Vick but don’t hate Foles. Just need him to show more as a QB.

#7

Foles can play, but he just doesn’t attack down field enough for me. Dink and dunk plays into the Buc’s D hands. Play zone and keep our WRs in front of them.

Pennguino

Way to hang tough and deliver from the pocket

BrickSquadMonopoly

wheres foleseys dink and dunk consistent yardage gain?

RIP illa

1st drive…play calling has gotten away from that.

#7

Cooper wide open. Hopefully that’s a sign of things to come

RIP illa

Against zone…yeah. Still has to show it against man cov.

#7

Yep. Just weird to see him open period

#7

Since the Fumble, it’s been all Bucs smh.

Defense will need to make a play for us

Wilbert31

Or Foles will drive for another 7.

#7

You in attack mode or something?

theycallmerob

I’m sorry, were you not doing this the first few games? Dish it but can’t take it?

RIP illa

But he already stated that he wasn’t gonna bash Foles and instead support him today and has been.

#7

No I thought I was supporting our QB to win the game for us. Doing the same thing today. Nothing different

RIP illa

COXXXXXXX!!!!

#7

Nice play Cox

RIP illa

Great series by the D! Need Chip and Foles to put something together here. Can’t stay down against this team. They’re 0-4 for a reason!!!

Pennguino

Alright O. Lets move the ball and get something going.

RIP illa

Nice grab Celek!!!

#7

Foles needs to put a drive together. Let’s go Foles!

Andy124

Ask and ye shall receive.

RIP illa

DJax needs to turn up quicker on the screens instead of pausing to look if he can turn up and then running out.

RIP illa

Love me some Bryce and that was a good run, but he’s not a zone runner. Needs a FB in front of him.

RIP illa

Wow to easy!!! Great job O!!!

Pennguino

TOUCH DOWN

#7

TD Eagles

Pennguino

That is how you play. Use body language with your eyes and pump fakes to manipulate the defense. Help your receivers get open by using your head. It’s not all on the receiver to get open by themselves. You as a QB can help them out a little

RIP illa

Ok…just thought it was a defensive breakdown but apparently Foles did it all!!!

Pennguino

Have to see how much that pump moved the safety. If he stared down a different receiver and the safety was reading Nick’s eyes then it might be Nick or it might be the defense. Have to wait for the Coaches tape.

RIP illa

Yeah I gotta look at that one again. If he did great. Cause he’s been staring down a lot today. So it would be great to see him progress and elevate his game.

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

I thought the same. Clearly Revis was expecting help. He didn’t get it and we got the touchdown. I’ll take it.

#7

Not sure how much the pump fake helped. Still a TD

theycallmerob

Is that Brady back there? daaaaaamn napoleon, get those ‘tots

Token

Hard to think of a less effective pass rusher than Barwin

RIP illa

Cole

RIP illa

Great call

Pennguino

BS….

Pennguino

Glenn about to take that rushing title from Foles

RIP illa

Lol. COD (comment of the day) so far.

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

Why does Tampa look better than us driving down the field?

theycallmerob

uh….maybe because our D sucks?

RIP illa

We’re definitely making Glennon look better than what he is. I can understand Martin…but hell no to Glennon!!!

The dude made the NFL for a reason. You act like no QB in the league can complete a pass. It was a good throw by Glennon. Damn quit cryin

theycallmerob

Why does Tampa look better than us driving down the field?
this is the original quote. which i responded to. to quote you, “go ctrl-f where i said anything about glennon.” besides, it was doug’s big run that led to that score. you can’t honestly have any issue with me saying our D sucks.

but hey, you seem to take everything as a personal attack these days. it’s leading to you being ridiculous. and hey, guess what? this isn’t even about foles or vick either.

#7

Actually I didn’t, but yes your comments are normally negative against me and that’s cool.

And the ctrl-f comment was in regards to saying anything about Vick not Glennon.

We all know our D sucks man, but I just said that Glennon made a good throw. WTF is there a problem with that lol

theycallmerob

that last drive was the perfect example. the big throw had nothing to do with Glennon being an NFL qb- I could have gotten the ball to Wright, he was so open. but the pick was a perfect example of him being bad.

I just don’t get why some fans thought this would be an easy win because of the 0-4 record. TB is a far better 0-for team than the NYG were. The strengths/weaknesses of both teams align well. Yes Glennon sucks. But we sure have made him look good a lot.

#7

Hence why I talked about the one throw, not saying Glennon is great. No prob dude

Pennguino

Really? One is a top 10 defense and the other is bottom 2. Pretty easy.

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

No excuse. Glennon is horrible.

RIP illa

Exactly!!!

RIP illa

Cause our D is shaky at best and our D-Coord is a better teacher of D philosophies than an actual in game coordinator.

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

Alright. I might buy that. lol/smh

RIP illa

This is absolutely ridiculous!!! We have to tighten up coverage and play less zone. We’re finally getting pressure on Glennon and yet we’re making him look like Big Ben.

#7

Billy Davis is determined to not give up the big play no matter the QB

RIP illa

Part of that is his conservative nature/history and another part is cause we went out and signed guys that can’t run w/ WRs deep. I can’t blame his fear, but we need more man. He could always call safety help over the top w/ man.

Token

Billy Davis should be ashamed.

Token

Chip is far to conservative

Token

Good job running out of bounds………………

#7

SMH

Token

This Chip crap of him not going for it on 3rd down is getting ridiculous. Runs on 3rd and long basically is giving up on the drive. Playing not to lose. Did this crap the last 3 weeks.

#7

Token, Chip is a run first coach isn’t he? Did you forget that?

Token

Yea he is. That makes no difference on 3rd and 15.

#7

He’s being who he is. No need to be surprised

RIP illa

We should not be losing this game!!! No way an ineffective O that lead a team to 0-4 should be dictating this game to us…despite how bad we are on D. And even though their D is really really good…our o has proven to be able to move the ball this season and no huddle/uptempo turns really really good Ds into mediocre ones. Time for Chip to open up the playbook and increase the pace!!!

Jim

No way we should be losing, Foles has no big play ability since he hardly ever throws down field, and the defense is pathetic we’ve given up more points in to first half then the bucs usually score in a full game, and that’s with a back up QB in his second game ever just pathetic

theycallmerob

how can foles or anyone else throw downfield behind our o-line right now?

RIP illa

Lol…hallelujah!!! Finally it gets said instead of Vick holds the ball too long!!! LMAO. And btw…not specifically calling you out. Just saying.

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

It’s always diff when Foles is in. With Vick though some of those breakdowns would have been runs.

Note: Kelly just told the reporter they need to get the ball out quicker. lol

theycallmerob

can’t say that in retrospect. i mean yes, they have been bad, but this is pry the worst game all year. just awful in pass pro

#7

At least you’re being honest. Just wish it would be on both sides.

You have me, the supposedly “ultimate Vick fanboy” yet I’m on here pulling for Foles, and now you come with the o-line comment that I’ve been making regarding Vick and now its a problem for you.

I’m sure you;ll come back at me hard, but this isn’t meant to attack you. Just goes to show…nevermind F it

theycallmerob

see below where i said you take things too personally. pz “bro”

#7

That’s the behavior on here. That’s all

RIP illa

I’m not sure. They’ve always been real suspect in pass pro and run blocking. I don’t drink the Kool-Aid!!! I have been very critical of this line since the start. If it wasn’t for Shady being Shady, they would truly be exposed and pass pro has always been questionable. But would have to look back at other games. Still seems like par for the course for our OL tho.

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

Pass pro has been OK to bad all year. Vick has just made them look a little better ’cause he’s been rattling off long runs when they f*ck up.

i think you’re confusing me with someone else. I haven’t taken too many shots at Vick this year. the OL hasn’t been great all year, but again- this is the worst to date, IMO. I don’t think that has to do with NIck

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

Foles is doing what you want your backup to do…be efficient and not f*ck up. What we need is the defense to step up with some turnovers. You can’t ask for much more from Foles.

RIP illa

I would whole heatedly agree except for the fact that we have a portion of the fanbase saying that he’s better and should replace Vick w/o acknowledging his weaknesses. So if that’s the case then he definitely should show and be asked to do more.

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

LOL. Fair enough. But as you know I’m solidly in the we have a starter and a backup club. I’m only expecting the backup to play like the quality backup that he is.

#7

1000% fair comment

Pennguino

I agree that he should replace Vick. He does really well on the short game and seems to be better in the red zone. The team as a whole scores more with him in the game. This is only his 7th game. I think he has time to develop the deeper part of the game. Will he be some highlight reel deep passer. I don’t think so.

RIP illa

That’s a very fair assessment which I don’t really disagree w/. I just don’t believe in replacing the “better” QB w/ someone who is, as yet, not “better”. So I still think he has a ways to go and I’m not as optimistic on his ceiling as some. I still think he’s pretty good tho, but don’t think he can put a team on his back, which is a must for a QB to bring a team a championship…unless your name is Trent Dilfer.

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

“The team as a whole scores more with him in the game.”

A game and a half shows you that? Eh?

Pennguino

NO. But the games he played last year, the offense averaged more points.

His only drive in Denver was a TD

The half he played last week scored more than the first half.

The team just plays better. Maybe not as exciting but better.

RIP illa

He also gave up the lead that game he played last week so I wouldn’t say that the team plays better.

Pennguino

No he didnt. When did the Defense score off of his turn overs. wow

RIP illa

We might be confused, but coulda swore Vick left the the game w/ a lead and that the “ginas” took the lead from us w/ Foles in.

Pennguino

So how does that mean Foles lost the lead. But if this is the only thing you can hang onto go right ahead. A defense gives up the lead and the Offense can take the lead, sometimes a defense can take a lead too.

RIP illa

Wow!!! And that’s the hypocrisy that I’m talking about. Same thing happened to Vick in 2011 (5 times) and 2012 (3 times) but yet it was all Vick’s fault. You guys are killing me…SMH. Just playing by the rules that have been set!!!

Pennguino

The only team they have given up 2 passing TD’s was to NE. They have a pick in every game. Hopefully Shady’s TO satisfies the gods. I think our O needs to keep doing what it’s doing. One score was from the TO.

The screens are killing them. Mix in a few more. If this becomes a shootout, we will lose against that D. I had thought 23 points would win this game. They might need closer to 30. Did anybody think TB would give up 30 points?

#7

Who the F is Tim Wright

RIP illa

Runner up for COD by a very narrow margin…LMFAO.

RIP illa

Pressure…Falls to shite!!! Great push up the gut by the DL

Pennguino

FLETCH!!!!!

Pennguino

McCoy on McCoy crime

Token

Cooper sighting!

Andy124

Nice!!!

Pennguino

LOLI-POP TD. Great! I am not a fan of those high arcs but it works…

Wilbert31

If Foles could only throw the ball more than 10 yards Downfield…

Foles 21, brees 16.

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

Um…that one throw does not negate that statement. What’s more impressive is that Cooper caught the ball. Thank goodness.

What deep seeded bias? He’s throw 2 deep passes in a game. No that doesn’t negate the statement that he doesn’t throw deep consistently or well.

theycallmerob

*throw as strong as Vick</I.. you forgot to end your sentence. because a whole lot of data would discount the unfinished thought you made above. yes, even going back to last year.

RIP illa

Serious question…have you ever seen a deep ball travel about the same amount of yards vertically as down field? Not complaining at all but when watching I’m just in like whaaaat!!!

theycallmerob

I didn’t say he threw like Flacco. I said he can throw a deep ball. There is a wide margin in those statements. The fact some silly people perpetuate Foles can’t throw a deep ball are obviously ignoring reality at this point.

RIP illa

Wow you kinda went in on that one…think you missed the part where I said…”Not complaining at all”!

theycallmerob

sorry, but big butt no brains has apparently finished that bottle of wine. or has Foles confused with Gabbert.

Wilbert31

You probably should find something else to do on Sundays.

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

Why?

Pennguino

Looked like a push off by Coop

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

It was.

Token

Lets complain about that. Take the TD back.

Andy124

Didn’t we say that Vick vs. KC is the only comparison for Foles vs. TB? No comparison so far.

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

Seriously?

– There has been no @SS snap
– No muffed fumble
– No drive killing penalties by the line

Foles has not turned the ball over – which is the only diff between him and Vick this game. But as I’ve pointed out, no one else (outside of McCoy) has been screwing up either.

RIP illa

We really don’t care…lol!

Pennguino

I’ll take that TD every time. Just making a statement of what I thought I saw. It’s not a hit on Foles by any means. I am happy as hell he took the shot.

RIP illa

I get it. Not trying to be a “Richard” to you.

Pennguino

No worries

#7

LMAO

#7

Nice throw by Foles. He’s letting it rip and not on a short leash. Really has nothing to lose. One issue I had with Vick, he seemed to be playing careful, which is what everyone wanted. Coop might have gotten away with a push off there, but nice play. We’ll take it

theycallmerob

Chip’s most important stat: scoring off turnovers. two weeks in a row now, Foles has thrown a TD after a turnover recovery.

Need another score to turn up the pressure and Heat in Tampa. Up tempo to wear them out.

RIP illa

Intentional grounding

Edit: we got away w/ that??? Didn’t think it reached back to the LOS.

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

Yeah that’s what I thought. But there was a receiver in the vicinity so maybe not.

RIP illa

Good call. Missed that on the live play.

RIP illa

Donnie Jones is my team MVP this year!!!

Pennguino

This D line is horrible. Bring back the 4-3

RIP illa

Please God don’t tell me another no-name WR is gonna kill us!!!

Pennguino

Perfect pass beats perfect coverage every time. RE: the first down

#7

Glennon lookin like an all pro out there.

RIP illa

We have a way of making that happen for horrible to mediocre QBs

RIP illa

I don’t understand the Fletcher love on this site. Believe me, I don’t think he’s bad at all. I just don’t see him as a good number 2 CB. I definitely think he’s an above average number 3 CB, so in other words the 1st guy off the bench…not slot. But his whole career has been that of the 3 role, save for the year he got hurt…I believe.

cliff henny

think he’s better than we thought, is all. not many guys i’ve never heard of, fletch was one.

RIP illa

Prolly right. I somewhat knew of him and he hasn’t surpassed my expectations.

camscars

every game this season it seems like 3rd/4th quarter the other team has a 10 minute drive

This is, not bad Bucs defense. They have been in Foles face all day. Taking advantageof 1 o1 matchups. Offense made big plays

Token

Critical drive after d was on field for days

RIP illa

Beautiful!!! Great job By Djax and Foles!!!

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

I don’t know why the Bucs are playing zone…but I’ll take it. Good job.

Token

You’re so mad

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

Um…why exactly am I mad?

Token

First you complained that Coop pushed off. Now complaining about what D the Bucs are running for some reason. Yea, tough to see through that.

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

I didn’t complain that Coop pushed off. Someone said I thought that was a push off. It was. Here…I am curious why they are playing zone…that takes nothing away from Foles and DJax. Hence the “good job.”

You’re the only one seeing something that isn’t there.

nicksaenz1

Def wasn’t a push off.

Andy124

If only Foles didn’t have such a worthlessly weak arm.

cliff henny

yeah! not bad!

theycallmerob

HEY DUTCH!!!!! I thought Foles was a born loser?

RIP illa

If you didn’t have such worthless weak commenting!!! Lol…just being a “Richard”!

Andy124

I laughed.

Pennguino

H3LL YEA!!!!!!

Andy124

After this and last year, TB is pretty pissed Vick pulled a hammy. Foles has not led the Eagles to more points against TB than any other team has managed against them this year.

Token

Im surprised the O was able to put up these points. Bucs have a legit D.

Andy124

Ditto.

cliff henny

20 to glennon, so far…that is ridiculous

Token

Well yea our D is awful, we know this.

cliff henny

i know…but it’s fustrating as F! hope JJ is ‘sean penn’ing’ it in heaven, and not watching this year, or last 3

Pennguino

I did not see this coming. I was hopeful Foles could make a statement but this is only his 7th game. He is still learning and will struggle from time to time until he finds his footing.

RIP illa

I have no idea what TB’s D-Coord is thinking when the blueprint on our O is out…but I would love to thank him for his “Davis-esque” zone D play calling!

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

EXACTLY. Please continue to not play man. THANX!!!!!!

Token

Barwin sighting!!

theycallmerob

attaboy, berwin

RIP illa

I’m so glad we signed Berwin instead of that Barwin guy!!! Where’s Dutch???

Pennguino

Thats 2 TDs for DJ? I guess he is still effective with Foles. Shady is still averaging over 5 yards a pop too

Token

Wait….. You’re telling me Vick didnt make McCoy who he is?

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

U silly little man. No one said Vick made McCoy who he is. It wasn’t even a Vick/Foles issue. But your tiny brain can’t see that. As usual.

Pennguino

Sorry but there was a lot of static this week that Foles playing would pretty much take McCoy out of the game. The running game will struggle. Not only on this site but on other message boards also.

Token

yep. Specifically from big butt.

Now im guessing she will try to say she meant that because the D wouldnt respect the read option hed struggle. No, there was no read option til this year and McCoy has been great. She said Vicks presence as a run threat made McCoy. McCoy is simply a elite talent.

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

You are such a small minded little man. It was never about Vick/Foles in the way you mean it. EVERYONE told you that. EVERYONE. But you still kept making it about Vick/Foles. SMH.

Pennguino

Sorry. It’s always been Vick/Nick the whole time. Vicks running ability is what defenses have to account for thus opening up more lanes for Shady. Foles does not command that kind of attention in the running game.

Plenty of Vick’s camp were saying Vick was the reason that Shady was doing as well as he was.

RIP illa

I think you’re blurring sites. There were 3 people mainly talking about it, myself and BBS included. It wasn’t Vick v Nick in a specific way but more scheme based way and the worry that if Ds keyed in on McCoy it would be easy enough to try to contain him. I myself have said that Shady is Shady and does what he does inspite of certain unfavorable situations, ie, not great O-Line play. Said it today and been saying it since the start of the season. I will admit that I did not expect the Bucs to run so much zone and for Foles to throw as week as he did, beyond the short throws, today. So I definitely think that Foles ability has helped Shady today. Just in a different way than Vick.

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

Thank you. I swear Token stay missing the point. It was a convo about scheme…and like you said I didn’t expect TB to play so much zone. That changed things. And Foles threw the ball well. YEAH! So why is this even an issue?

RIP illa

It’s all part of the Pro Foles camp. Just like how they cannot praise Foles w/o bashing Vick (which btw…mainly made me pro Vick). They’re just really pathetic and project all their deficiencies on everyone else.

#7

Zing

RIP illa

Was supposed to be, “as we’ll as he did”! Full disclosure…I did think the Bucs would go man, single high w/ Revis on Desean and Goldson patrolling the middle, taking away the TE seams and stopping Shady. I thought they would definietly stop Shady after the giants game we had. But they didn’t and Foles killed them and so did Shady!!!

Token

Thats not what was said, but even if thats what you guys are going with, itd still be wrong. Its just a matter of arguing over how you want to be wrong.

EDIT: this was supposed to be a response to RIP

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

No. They weren’t. You can look at the argument. It was about a mobile Qb and a non-mobile QB in Kelly’s scheme. Also the assumption was Tampa would play man not zone so that changes things a bit as well.

The only one who were hollering about Vick making McCoy were the ones who were clearly missing the point.

Pennguino

Whatever. Like I mentioned earlier, it was on multiple site. You can believe whatever you want

Token

She was one of the people who started that talk on here. Now acting like it was a totally different conversation. O well.

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

You can look at the conversation…and look at the 50-11 times we all said it wasn’t about Vick and Foles in the way you were making it.

Token

Atleast stand behind your words. Embarrassing. Cant wait til Vick is gone and we can be done with this crap.

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

GO LOOK at the ARGUMENT. I said A GAZILLION TIMES…it wasn’t about Vick/Foles…it was about the scheme. YOU were the one making it about Vick/Foles.

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

It was a legit statement – which was about the SCHEME. That in this SCHEME a mobile QB opens up the lanes better for the RB. It wasn’t about Vick/Foles in the way Token and others were trying to make it. There was also a heaping does of, I’ll be curious to see what kind of adjustments are made if any.

Token

What about the SCHEME before Kelly got here? No RO then. You are arguing that Vick makes McCoy and you werent right.

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

Who was the QB during McCoy’s big year 2011. I’ll wait.

– But the specific take on the run game was about Kelly’s scheme and not Vick and Foles. U coulda replaced the name of the QBs and one mobile and one not and you would have the same convo.

Token

Vick, like ive said.

U are proving my point. Your argument is Vick makes McCoy. We didnt have this RO crap in 2011. So you are just arguing that Vick makes McCoy and hes better with him than Foles.

Either that or your argument is a mobile QB in general makes McCoy. That is wrong also. So just take your pick as to how you want to be wrong in this.

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

Actually I’m not proving your point. I’m pointing out silly your overall argument is – RB had his banner year with the same QB under center. He also had a not so great year last year…thanx to the line.

BUT the argument was NEVER about Vick/Foles – it was about Kelly’s scheme. That is what the argument was about. Obviously McCoy has run well…YEAH…and that shows that Kelly’s scheme is adaptable.

Token

lol whatever. At least have the guts to admit when you are wrong.

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

“Obviously McCoy has run well…YEAH…and that shows that Kelly’s scheme is adaptable.”

Token

yea now its Kellys scheme, which didnt change really at all today from what I could see. Except they actually converted on points. Still did the worthless RO fake crap.

nawh, run out clock. even this garbage D should be able to get 11 w/ 3 mins left against rookie to the barn

Token

Playing not to lose isnt smart. And I dont trust Henery from any distance.

cliff henny

inside 40, i do. it’s getting up 2 possesssion, not same as 3 to 6.

Pennguino

Need a score. Still only one possession game. Burn the time and take the FG

Adam

Foles baby. This’ll be a fun week!

Andy124

QB Controversy!!!

Adam

I’m gonna run a train on these Vick fanboys

RIP illa

1st…that’s just seriously disgusting and gay!!!
2nd…us “Vick fanboys” will sit back and be quiet while you gloat about Foles. Just like you Foles guys did when he lost the QB comp. Oh…wait…you guys never did that. Stay classy Adam!!!

Adam

I would love nothing more than for that to happen

Token

Counting down the days til Vick, and the fanatics, move on to another team/board.

Adam

It’s getting close

Token

They feel it, obviously.

#7

Lol. Driving my kid back to college. I’m not running from nothing

cliff henny

right?! the endless excuses are just getting old. guy is exciting, we all agree, but they wont agree he has serious flaws. always someone/something else

RIP illa

Well I’ll still be here calling you out for your jackass in game assessments cause I was a Eagles fan long before Vick and will still be one long after him.

Token

i doubt it. You three Vick disciples will never be heard from again.

RIP illa

LMFAO…now that’s the stupidest thing you’ve said to date. Can’t speak for anyone else but myself, but think of it like this…just like you continually post dumb shite…you’ll see me continually post my thoughts bout the team I love. So yeah little guy…you’ll definitely being reading my comments. BTW I post less during the week to week of the season. So don’t miss me too much little guy.

Pennguino

Not even close. Foles put that to rest against a top 10 defense

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

Only from folk who want one.

theycallmerob

There is no controversy. After this game, there is no reason Foles shouldn’t start this year. the only argument for starting the lame-duck old man was that he “gave the team a better opportunity to win in the short-term (this year)”. that is just not true.
May as well get a Matt Flynn-deal for the kid, or worse….develop a long-term plan at QB. But it’s win-win to me

Token

ding ding ding.

theycallmerob

yea, just saw your post above. in full agreement.

cliff henny

glad i saw 5 games of vick, helped me project a marioti or hundley for next yr. so if they go your route, that’s fine. though sure vick will get job back, but let’s face it, he’s not done getting injured

Token

Mariota was damn good yesterday againt not a bad team.

Still think they go QB in the first.

But as I said above, makes no sense in any way to start Vick anymore. Doesnt give you a leg up for winning this year, while also not letting you see what you have in Foles?Barkley.

cliff henny

dude is a machine. those fakes, snap throws. his arm is strong. not the runner vick is, but who is? he’s close to kaep with better motion. have no idea how anyone watching the good vick and the good foles cant want marioti, that’s him.

Token

Ill be sold if he balls out against UCLA and Stanford.

Maybe im nuts, his timed speed isnt as fast as a RG3, but damn he looks it. Zero to top speed really really quick.

Hes struggled with accuracy at times this year. But threw some awesome balls yesterday. I think we his accuracy is off its mechanics that need worked on. But the guy has the arm. Goes through progressions well it seems.

cliff henny

my only worry with him is he is incredibly shy. he’s not a vocal leader. other than that,i am 100% sold for eagles. dont need 1 more down of action.

Token

Did not know that, and was gonna ask what kinda leader he was. Thats a big thing for me. But if he can have the team perform in the clutch thats all that matters. Hope to see him in clutch situations over the next few weeks.

cliff henny

oh, terrible. he stand on sidelines alone 90% of the time. i couldnt care less…guy can play, i’ll help finance the shrink if eagles and jeffie’s mommy wont cut a check

RIP illa

Files can certainly take the job if he keeps this it up. He put together a great game. My question is what I’ve been wondering all week…how do you give the starting gig to a back up, who played excellent, after just one game? Seriously no matter which team, nor QB, this just sounds insane. Brady took the job from Bledsoe after multiple games not just one. And for you guys that keep harping on how we shouldn’t repeat the same mistakes, and history shows us that this and that don’t work, such as spending spree FA, Drafting for need, play calling, etc. haven’t we seen history not favor this QB move also??? Feely Kolb? This is legitimate. Vick support aside…but you guys aren’t making too much sense, other than your dislike of Vcik as the QB!

Token

Because Vick hasnt been putting points on the board for weeks. I dont think the locker room cares at this point if he plays. A guy like Jackson just cares about getting the ball. Foles has fed him in a game and a half.

You can lose your job to injury. If you havent been playing well, and you are injured again like usual.

RIP illa

I completely understand that. But he has been playing well, or at least well enough to win and keep the job for now. The only thing, I feel that Foles can do is play better…and that takes more than just one game.

Well I noticed this week Chip switched from “Vick is the starter” to “We will evaluate everything”.

Now am I wrong, or didnt Andy make almost the exact same switch in tone before benching Vick last year?

Andy124

Yes. But to be fair, that was after more than one week.

Andy124

err, 1.5 games.

cliff henny

betcha vick’s hammy feels alot better. it’s the nfl, cant keep going to sidelines and giving people shots at your job. sooner or later someone will take it.

Andy124

It’s already “later” lol.

RIP illa

Easy decision for you! As I said before…we’ve seen this play out a bunch of times before, no matter whose the starter has been!!! So I gotta see it more often and consistently as I still believe we should make a strong push to Draft a top QB next offseason.

theycallmerob

fine. i agree. lets see more of it.

so…lets start Foles.

RIP illa

HaHa. Well played sir!!!

Token

lol yea media should be fun.

Its nice to score actual points instead of imaginary points though I have to admit.

theycallmerob

I’d much rather have yards than points. silly canadian

cliff henny

yup, 7 instead of 3’s, makes all the difference in the world

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

I’d much rather a defense plays zone than man. Thanks TB.

Adam

hahahahaha starting already

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

Actually not starting. I would much rather a D play zone than Man. I’m very grateful for that.

Token

Most QBs LIVE for man coverage. Makes the read far easier.

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

Except for our receivers who don’t get open on Man…I’d agree with you. So my comment had nothing to do with the QB and everything to do with our receivers.

Andy124

Started from the opening drive.

theycallmerob

that same zone worked well against Brees and Brady.

cliff henny

foles has better targets…wait, that’s not right

Andy124

No, it’s a better OL configuration.

Token

Oline was pretty bad again today. Foles got out of probably 3 or 4 sacks by throwing it away.

Peters just isnt the same guy.

Andy124

Check your sarcasm meter.

Token

O no i got the sarcasm, just wanted to make the point.

Andy124

And playcalling.

http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

Is that supposed to change my stance against the Ealges…who have played MUCH better overall when Ds play zone than man?

RIP illa

I know you’re gloating and all, but since when do we run the saints O or have their WRs…silly comment. You’re better than that Rob.

theycallmerob

what are you talking about? Big Butt seems to believe the coverage, WR hands, and everything else in the world is the reason Foles looked good. I’m saying he looked good where others looked worse. and if anything, more impressive considering how these WRs have looked this year. you’re miscontruing my point

RIP illa

I probably am. Kid played lights out, for sure. I do however believe that our WRs were helped out by TBs ridiculous zone D today when the blueprint of man coverage is out on how to stop our WRs. THIS IS COMPLETLEY OUTSIDE AND HAS NOTHING TO DO W/ FOLES. I know as a team (Bucs) you don’t change your whole D philosophy, but damn…you do make changes from week to week. Either way I’m happy though.

Adam

Against Buc’s D:

Drew Brees – 16 points
Tom Brady – 23 points
Nick Foles – 31 points

Andy124

Pushups. Do ‘em.

cliff henny

double for that drop

cliff henny

Eagles win…make a nice dinner, sit back and root for injuries tonight.

Pennguino

THATS A WRAP.

Token

It no longer makes any sense to start Vick.

Thats not to say I think Foles is the future, I really dont believe that at this point.

But hes showed he can run the offense, better for the most part, than Vick can.

Even if you think Vick is a little better, what is there to gain? Hes gone.

They gotta see what they have, if anything, in Foles/Barkley before this season ends. And while they are still in contention.

The players, im betting, no longer think Vick gives them the best chance to win. Foles has actually lead to points. Been way better in the redzone. And Vick is injured once again. Kelly could move on with no ill effects in the locker room.

Jason Hall

Token Cmon man what if we get a L next week and Foles don’t perform like he did then what. It just wasn’t Foles the line was blocking, we were not dropping passes, Shady took over especially on that 44 yd run, defense bend but don’t break mentality. Im loving it now and I don’t care who is QB as long as we get wins. Cowboys are next week.

cliff henny

shady always looks special. still trying to figure out what got into cooper. maybe MRSA has opposite effect on him?

Token

The offense has ran better in the last game and a half than it has for weeks.

Obviously Foles/Barkley will have bad games. Neither is great. But neither is Vick. Makes no sense to keep rolling the old man out there.

Foles gives you no less chance to win than Vick does this season.

Jason Hall

We don’t know that really its just what you think and we can always base our opinions on ifs. You cant sit here an say that we lost theses games because of our QB play only and before Vick pulled his hamstring we were winning. I don’t care like I said a win is a win but you cant base your decision on 1 full game because what if it doesn’t work and Foles don’t impress. You think the Eagles are not thinking playoffs nobody is in charge of the NFC East. So you should cheer for whomever is playing QB because it really doesn’t matter because its a team sport.

Token

We were 1-3 with Vick. How does starting Foles give you less chance to win? Vick is 4-10 in the last two seasons.

If Foles gets hurt you start Barkley and see what you have IMO.

I think Vick stays starter but on a short leash. I just dont feel Chip will leave him now.

Adam

Yeah, there was only one possible worst outcome than Vick’s 1-3. And I wouldn’t mind going 0-4 if it was someone young and developing. Vick is what he is.

Token

Just tired of the “better chance to win this year” argument. 1-3. 4-10 in two years. Its a terrible argument.

cliff henny

think it was a reasonable arguement, since only way it can be defeated was by foles playing. i dont think foles is all that great, so think vick did give better shot. seeing 7’s going up last 6 quarters has me wondering

Adam

Yep. Considering Foles has already matched Vick’s season win total in games they start and finish, it’s a completely invalid argument.

It’s not like Eagles starting Vick is making the NFC East terrible. It’ll still be terrible when Foles is playing.

Andy124

punctuation. use it. at least a little.

Jason Hall

Andy really Im using my phone so why don’t you come over and help me use my punctuation. Man lets be serious, did you understand what I was saying? If so then lets get on with our lives. Foles showed up, great win that’s all lets go Eagles. Not Foles or Vick. Token, Andy, Adam continue bashing if that makes you happy but one thing is for sure Chip Kelly is not listening to you.

Andy124

i use punctuation when I’m on my phone. At least substitute double spaces for periods. I’m no grammar nazi (a point I tried to imply by using no uppers in my post), but your post was difficult to parse. If nobody tells you, how would you know? Relax buddy. We won.

RIP illa

That’s the most intelligent argument that you have made to date. I respect it, FWIW. Give me a couple more games of Foles playing like this or at the least, better than what I expect of him and I’ll be right there w/ the rest of you. Until then I still run w/ the incumbent until he screws the pooch or stoles takes it as I said above.

cliff henny

how does foles take it if 31 against good tb defense doesnt get him another game? maybe it’ll light fire under vick. but can tell you, after 3 yrs of kicking fgs and 1 1/2 games of seeing 7 go up (and think foles is allarounf inferior player to vick) has me wondering

RIP illa

That’s kinda of why…cause I’m not sold on Foles yet as anything more. Plus I’ve never seen a QB lose his job after one game in this league, but hey, 1st time for everything. Now if Vick had been playing horrible before hand, I would be all in for Foles.

#7

Me too. Vick needs to raise his game and he will

RIP illa

He better or you’ll have to change your handle to #9!!! Lol.

cliff henny

yup, wasnt disagreeing with you at all, but hope he sees the guy behind him putting 7 on the board. i like the 70 yd runs as much as anyone, but got to stop kicking fgs. thing with vick getting hurt, sooner or later someone will take his job. that’s the nfl. i doubt it’s foles on just today, but down the road? lot easier to see it after today for me than it was a week ago, i’ll admit that

RIP illa

Agreed.

Jason Hall

Man Foles did good 4tds 133 passer rating, I give him credit he hung in there beautiful passes down the field. A win is a win and any given sunday Im just glad that we won. Cowboys next whoever is playing quarterback Im rooting for them because its better to have two good QBs then none at all. If Foles start I want him to bring that same intensity. Oline good job and defense bend but don’t break. Its a team sport guys, Eagles not Vicks or Foles team. Good W lets focus on next week whomever start QB.

#7

Lmao people complained about me gloating about the QB composition win by Vick. Rob, Adam, cliff henny and Token having a party. I have no problem. Gloat away! That just shows the real on these boards. They think they’re “running” people out of here lol. You ain’t running shit away.

I want to see all of this “class” you guys constantly told me I didn’t have.

theycallmerob

im sorry, where was I not being classy? this is the internet, not a gala. if you don’t like my hard-hitting facts, that’s on you

RIP illa

They don’t understand hypocrisy…nor how their hypocrisy fuels most rational, and I do only mean the rational Vick supporters to battle w/ them on these boards, not some stupid blind love for Vick. Both sides have their far fringe wings of the two factions. Just sad how people can’t differentiate the rational from irrational!

#7

Well said. Look at Token lol. Dude acts like we just won the super bowl

Token

The difference between us is I dont idolize Foles. I dont think hes the future.

But the main point is he gives you no less chance this year than Vick does, while also being much younger. It makes no sense to start Vick now.

#7

If someone came on here and read you posts they would think Foles was your idle. You used to say that I had no class now look atyou And I’m not pispissed about like you were

Token

Dunno why. Ive said multiple times I dont look at him as the future.

An adult having a man crush on Vick is classless.

You said you were driving, didnt even watch the game. Huge Eagles fan you are.

#7

LOL Ok Token. You got it sister

cliff henny

what? i’ve never read 1 comment from anyone came across as a foles-fanboy…well maybe geagle but he’s in his own world lol.

#7

Well you must skipped your reading courses. If you’ll take off ray ban Foles glasses that you’re sporting there’s Foles fanboys right in front of you. You refuse to see them. So what if they are? They can support who they want. Pulling for Vick isa on here. All good though

cliff henny

i think the answer is neither. i root for vick…i root against vick fanboys like yourself.

Token

You didnt even watch the game Eagles…..I mean Vick fan. Better to just stay silent.

Adam

It’s was nice to see a bit of that up tempo approach again. Thought that was a goner.

cliff henny

looking at box score, still confused by cooper’s 4 – 130 1td…has to be typo

nicksaenz1

I was going nuts at the bar. Couldn’t believe my eyes.

nicksaenz1

Great team win..

Token

Chip – Its not that Cooper was open more today, its just he had more opportunity to make catches.

Max Lightfoot

I reiterate my opinion that we need both QBs for the season. I have no favorite in this alleged controversy, but I am really happy for Foles. If Vick won today, I’d be just as happy for him. If Foles can do it again, and Vick is still injured, then he’s the guy. But Vick may come back strong and it’d be great for the team if he does. As I’ve also said, I just DO NOT get the vitriol over Vick – he did a crime, he did his time – get over it, already. My bottom line is that both Vick and Foles can win games in different ways, and we need them both to be healthy in order to get more than six wins, which was my preseason prediction. Go Eags!

Foles had a great game. Did pretty much everything that every doubter said he couldn’t with a run game people said wouldn’t be there with him at the helm. Great game, and great win by the team. Defense could have done a little more to not make Glennon look like a seasoned vet, but in the end, got the stops needed. We’ll see what Chip does. Very happy we went on the road on got another W. Need to start doing this at home if we’re any bit serious about a playoff run. We have a long way to go still, but it’s certainly attainable. Those home W’s have to start happening.

cliff henny

no issue, W’s will start again at home next week. i’ll be as conservative as i can be, take off my afterglow Eagles homer glasses and predict 31-6 at halftime!

nicksaenz1

We need to man. It’s getting pathetic. 0-8 in last 8 is downright sad.

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