Firedome8 wrote:
That makes it right because Obama did it. Logical fallacy, 2 wrongs do not make a right. ,,,,,I herd dump praise leakers,,,,

Again there is no other possible outcome. Yes the next puppet... er.... President will be worse. And the public unrest will be worse. The only way politics gets better is if we are all fooled or suppressed. Probably both are coming.

exhaustgases wrote:
. And you ignored what I said about contempt of court.

What you said does not apply in this case.

Here we have a clear judicial order for the sheriff to stop detaining us citizens without charge. The sherif then made public statements that he intended to ignore the order and proceeded to keep detaining us citizens without charge.....so the judge found him in contempt.

The system worked just as it should have.....right up until Rump issued a pardon, which Arpio accepted which is an admission of guilt by Arpio.

axegrinder wrote:
Again there is no other possible outcome. Yes the next puppet... er.... President will be worse. And the public unrest will be worse. The only way politics gets better is if we are all fooled or suppressed. Probably both are coming.

Ahhh...the it's all a great big conspiracy so we might as well gave a criminal in charge defense...brilliant

axegrinder wrote:
Again there is no other possible outcome. Yes the next puppet... er.... President will be worse. And the public unrest will be worse. The only way politics gets better is if we are all fooled or suppressed. Probably both are coming.

Ahhh...the it's all a great big conspiracy so we might as well gave a criminal in charge defense...brilliant

You will see what I see after you analyze a few thousand more trees (I see a forest).

And I do figure that if you are a legal American citizen, BUT can't prove it, then you are fair game!!

pdq67

Indeed he did....anf it turns out the is no requirement for us citizens to carry a passport at all times as in the USSR or nazi Germany

Do you carry you passport at all times?

Arpio was voted out of office after costing the good people of AS about $100M in legal fees and settlement costs for things like wrongful death, assualt, abuse, wrongful imprisonment and such........contempt was the very least the government could do to return the favor.

The really funny tbing is at 85 he's probably not got a lot of time left, his appeals would have gone another 2-3years then he could have claimed are age and gotten nothing.....but with a pardon that all ends and he's admitted guilt to accept it, he's out of office and fair game in civil court.

I'd expect his personal legal bills are about to get out of control.....time will tell if Rump helped or broke him.

mk e wrote:Here we have a clear judicial order for the sheriff to stop detaining us citizens without charge. The sherif then made public statements that he intended to ignore the order and proceeded to keep detaining us citizens without charge.....so the judge found him in contempt.

The system worked just as it should have.....right up until Rump issued a pardon, which Arpio accepted which is an admission of guilt by Arpio.

Just to add a reference point. The judge who gave the order is from the 9th circuit so she's basically just another America hating left wing activist judge.

engineczar wrote:
Just to add a reference point. The judge who gave the order is from the 9th circuit so she's basically just another America hating left wing activist judge.

If that's true then certainly it would have been overturned on appeal and admitting guilt by accepting the pardon was just a silly thing for Arpio to do and Rump f'd him over by putting him that position right?...

Arpaio was just enforcing the law. He was never actually convicted of breaking any laws in regards to immigration enforcement. Arizona law SB1070 is quite clear. His "crime" was not obeying some activist judges order which was to not enforce the law as it was written.

Arpaio was just enforcing the law. He was never actually convicted of breaking any laws in regards to immigration enforcement. Arizona law SB1070 is quite clear. His "crime" was not obeying some activist judges order which was to not enforce the law as it was written.

The 9th circuit then USSC.

Arpio was breaking the law, not enforcing it. The AZ law was clear, and the USSC was even clearer that it was lawful to check the imitation status of some one lawfully detained when there is reasonable cause they might be illegal.

Arpio was detaining people for the purpose of checking integration status, so the exact opposite of what the USSC had ruled was ok and that is why he decided to take the pardon rather than appeal to the USSC.

The judge order him to follow the rules laid out by the USSC. Arpio ignored the lawful court order and was convicted of contempt.

Best to have you fact straight before jumping in to defend a criminal.

And I do figure that if you are a legal American citizen, BUT can't prove it, then you are fair game!!

pdq67

Indeed he did....anf it turns out the is no requirement for us citizens to carry a passport at all times as in the USSR or nazi Germany

Do you carry you passport at all times?

Arpio was voted out of office after costing the good people of AS about $100M in legal fees and settlement costs for things like wrongful death, assualt, abuse, wrongful imprisonment and such........contempt was the very least the government could do to return the favor.

The really funny tbing is at 85 he's probably not got a lot of time left, his appeals would have gone another 2-3years then he could have claimed are age and gotten nothing.....but with a pardon that all ends and he's admitted guilt to accept it, he's out of office and fair game in civil court.

I'd expect his personal legal bills are about to get out of control.....time will tell if Rump helped or broke him.

No, but I can lay my hands on it real fast if I have to have it!

I'm talking about citizens with no hard copy means of proving that they are REAL US citizens here!