To be considering voting Tory to make them accountable for Brexit

I'm an ardent Remainer albeit a life long Tory voter and, when the GE was called I was adamant I wouldn't vote to endorse TMs plans.

Given Corbyns complete failure to acknowledge Brexit I don't want to vote for him (even though he is coming out of this campaign far better than TM).

But even if I didn't think that, it seems to me Labour winning would be the worst situation because, when the realisation that we can't have our cake and eat it hits with regard to the Brexit negotiations, it will be blamed on Labour not being 'strong and stable'.

I'm now thinking a vote to make the Tories accountable might not be such a bad thing?

I actually see your point. I feel like I'm between a rock and a hard place. Labour get in and are blamed for the fallout over brexit or the conservatives get in and austerity continues to be barbaric.

I read something on here yesterday about a gentleman's struggle to claim financial support whilst dying of terminal cancer. If labour has to be the scapegoat for brexit it seems like the lesser of two evils.

I suppose that would make sense if only the Tories suffered from a bad deal but that's not the case, is it?

The British don't seem to realise that there aren't two sides on the Brexit negotiations, everyone wants the UK to be left in a robust position because it's a big country with a large economy, that we do a lot of business with. Anything else is just shooting ourselves in the foot.

Most of the negotiating will be done between members of the civil service, with the political types only coming in at the end to sign the papers. The U.K. will send in the same teams of Whitehall suits, no matter who wins.

Ain't nobody got time for dick swinging and that's all May is telling you all she's bringing to the party.

Bearbehind I see. Well as a lifelong Labour supporter I would advise that you vote Labour then! I do see your point about making Tories accountable for the mess they have got us in, but I still wouldn't vote for them because of what's in their manifesto.

Think about the type of Brexit you want, with the Tories in charge it would be a race to the bottom in terms of workers rights, the environment etc. They would be accountable but by then the damage will be done. At least with Labour there's more chance of a 'fair' Brexit. May's whole approach so far has hardly inspired confidence.

Interesting. So what are your views on the state of the NHS, police service, education, health and social care Bearbehind?

Do you honestly think this election is just about 'Brexit' and that 'no deal is better than a bad deal' actually means anything? The EU will simply laugh and get back to business as TM stamps her feet and shouts 'I'm strong and stable'.

If either of the things mentioned in my first paragraph mean anything to you, you know very well that there is a credible alternative.

I really can't see that electing a government who have form for selling off anything they can get their hands on for short term gain, and hoping that they will take a different tack for Brexit makes any sense at all. They will sell us down the river as soon as they sniff a profit for their friends and themselves.Deliberately picking the party most like to be shunned by the EU seems a strange was to limit the fallout.