The other parts of the world have all of the same shit that the west has. I live in Asia and can find exactly what you guys can find.

He's talking about certain third world countries. A lot of people can't just march down to their local health food store and get supplemental substances for whatever their diet is lacking in like we can.

There only ever been one thing that turned me into the "pushy vegetarian" type that keeps getting mentioned. I was watching some nature program with the rest of my family when a seal began to chase this penguin for food, Its massive frame baring down on it as the penguin's feet slipped on the ice and it fell closer to it's doom. Within seconds the meat eating half of my family were cowering behind pillows begging for the channel to be changed while me and my vegetarian father looked at them in confusion.

If you can't stand that sight or concept of an animal being killed, ESPECIALY if it's for another animal's survival and regardless of the killed animal's appearance, you shouldn't eat meat.

It's not very realistic to think we ever will though.
If we stop now, we'll have Mexican pig cartels making big bucks by smuggling meat into the US.

I'm pretty sure thisispain's position isn't that we should make meat illegal (because that would be fucking stupid). He's merely saying it's possible for us to individually decide to quit eating meat. Even Einstein said "Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet."

If they are indeed vegetarian to protest against animals being murdered, I cannot understand their point. Their diet excluding meat will not decrease the amount of animals being slaughtered to feed the rest of us, however it is their lifestyle and honestly I could care less about what they do.

I'm pretty sure thisispain's position isn't that we should make meat illegal (because that would be fucking stupid). He's merely saying it's possible for us to individually decide to quit eating meat. Even Einstein said "Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet."

Sure you could, but what's the point if you generally don't like the taste and find it very bothersome to properly prepare vegetarian meals? The "it's more ethical because animals are killed to make food" is redundant since there will never be enough vegetarians to have a significant impact on the meat industry and animals will be slaughtered at the exact same rate as before.

I barely have any good reason to become a vegetarian. All my relatives eat meat, so I would be forcing my relatives to prepare extra meals to suit my choices if I'm invited to dinner. The amount of variation when visiting restaurants is decreased significantly. I don't know much at all about all the types of vegetables and things I would have to include in my every meal to ensure that I'm eating healthy, and thinking about all of these things will make cooking a lot more complex for someone who still has mostly just very basic cooking skills. Lastly, there's simply too much vegetables that I find simply despicable.

If I were to become a vegetarian, it would be because I wanted to lose weight and eat more healthy, and if I had a roomie or partner that was a vegetarian and knew a lot about how to prepare your meals. It would in all other scenarios not be worth the trouble.

how can you say "i don't like the taste of vegetarian meals" when it literally encompasses every single foodstuff that isn't meat

You see, most people who don't know what vegetarianism truly is think that vegetarians sit there eating carrots all day.

That's not true at all.

Look at all the vegetarian recipes out there, there is an INSANE amount. Indians and other asian countries have giant vegetarian cuisines and I have eaten vegetarian foods that taste 100 times better than meat foods, but I can't cook well. If I could cook properly, I would have gone permanent vegetarian a long time ago. I just cut down on the meats a lot now because I ate too much of it as a kid. I have to admit, cooking a simple delicious chicken breast takes much less effort than preparing a tastier vegetarian meal in my opinion.

I'm personally a meat-lover, but I think one day we will all have to be vegetarian. Raising animals to eat (especially big ones like cows) is a huge waste of energy and nutrients, something we won't be able to do when we have twice the population we have now. Eating vegetables would cut the middlemen (animals) out, giving us more energy efficiency.

If the killing is of an creature that does not have complex thoughts or emotions, or if they're inherently evil (horses), the killing is done in a humane way, the the killing is for a good cause (giving people food), then I am not morally against it. I am against using inhumane methods and living conditions.

Suffering, sentience, usefulness, upsides, downsides... it's all relevant.
I like to think of it as "the greater good, with realism included".