AuthorTopic: Pathological Donate Questions (Read 943 times)

During a Donate phase, I trash a Catacombs, gaining a Blessed Village. I choose to receive the Boon now (after seeing it).

It's Wind's Gift, and I discard and react a Faithful Hound. Do I ever get the Hound back? (I suspect the answer is no. This also applies to other methods of discarding Hound during Donate.)

It's Forest's Gift, Field's Gift, or River's Gift. Does it ever get returned? And, in the case of River's Gift, do I ever get the effect? (I suspect the Boon gets returned at the next Cleanup phase, and I never get the River's Gift effect.)

During a Donate phase, I trash a Catacombs, gaining a Blessed Village. I choose to receive the Boon now (after seeing it).

It's Wind's Gift, and I discard and react a Faithful Hound. Do I ever get the Hound back? (I suspect the answer is no. This also applies to other methods of discarding Hound during Donate.)

It's Forest's Gift, Field's Gift, or River's Gift. Does it ever get returned? And, in the case of River's Gift, do I ever get the effect? (I suspect the Boon gets returned at the next Cleanup phase, and I never get the River's Gift effect.)

You get Faithful Hound back the next time it's the end of a turn.

You return the Boons the next time it's Clean-up (not necessarily yours). You never get the card for The River's Gift.

During a Donate phase, I trash a Catacombs, gaining a Blessed Village. I choose to receive the Boon now (after seeing it).

It's Wind's Gift, and I discard and react a Faithful Hound. Do I ever get the Hound back? (I suspect the answer is no. This also applies to other methods of discarding Hound during Donate.)

It's Forest's Gift, Field's Gift, or River's Gift. Does it ever get returned? And, in the case of River's Gift, do I ever get the effect? (I suspect the Boon gets returned at the next Cleanup phase, and I never get the River's Gift effect.)

You get Faithful Hound back the next time it's the end of a turn.

You return the Boons the next time it's Clean-up (not necessarily yours). You never get the card for The River's Gift.

Just did some testing online. Game #12365106 shows that the online implementation is correct for Faithful Found. The Boons get returned at the wrong time, though. And, in solo mode, I did get a card for River's Gift (after the turn following Donate), but this did not happen against Lord Rattington.

During a Donate phase, I trash a Catacombs, gaining a Blessed Village. I choose to receive the Boon now (after seeing it).

It's Wind's Gift, and I discard and react a Faithful Hound. Do I ever get the Hound back? (I suspect the answer is no. This also applies to other methods of discarding Hound during Donate.)

It's Forest's Gift, Field's Gift, or River's Gift. Does it ever get returned? And, in the case of River's Gift, do I ever get the effect? (I suspect the Boon gets returned at the next Cleanup phase, and I never get the River's Gift effect.)

You get Faithful Hound back the next time it's the end of a turn.

You return the Boons the next time it's Clean-up (not necessarily yours). You never get the card for The River's Gift.

Just did some testing online. Game #12365106 shows that the online implementation is correct for Faithful Found. The Boons get returned at the wrong time, though. And, in solo mode, I did get a card for River's Gift (after the turn following Donate), but this did not happen against Lord Rattington.

Just did some testing online. Game #12365106 shows that the online implementation is correct for Faithful Found. The Boons get returned at the wrong time, though. And, in solo mode, I did get a card for River's Gift (after the turn following Donate), but this did not happen against Lord Rattington.

How do you play a solo game on Dominion Online? I wasn't aware that this functionality existed. (Though Lord Rattington comes close!)

Just did some testing online. Game #12365106 shows that the online implementation is correct for Faithful Found. The Boons get returned at the wrong time, though. And, in solo mode, I did get a card for River's Gift (after the turn following Donate), but this did not happen against Lord Rattington.

How do you play a solo game on Dominion Online? I wasn't aware that this functionality existed. (Though Lord Rattington comes close!)

During a Donate phase, I trash a Catacombs, gaining a Blessed Village. I choose to receive the Boon now (after seeing it).

It's Wind's Gift, and I discard and react a Faithful Hound. Do I ever get the Hound back? (I suspect the answer is no. This also applies to other methods of discarding Hound during Donate.)

It's Forest's Gift, Field's Gift, or River's Gift. Does it ever get returned? And, in the case of River's Gift, do I ever get the effect? (I suspect the Boon gets returned at the next Cleanup phase, and I never get the River's Gift effect.)

You get Faithful Hound back the next time it's the end of a turn.

You return the Boons the next time it's Clean-up (not necessarily yours). You never get the card for The River's Gift.

Just did some testing online. Game #12365106 shows that the online implementation is correct for Faithful Found. The Boons get returned at the wrong time, though. And, in solo mode, I did get a card for River's Gift (after the turn following Donate), but this did not happen against Lord Rattington.

As usual, I strongly recommend not reporting any such bugs.

And I was not planning to. I only reported the test results here because your official response came in after I had already started testing it.

Added:In addition, finding problems is often team work. In this case, after verifying the original claim, I tested how the 'Keep this unitl Clean-Up' boons behaved when gained on opponent's turn. Guess what, they also don't return to the boon deck at the end of that turn, but incorrectly at the end of your (the gainer's) turn. So the problem is less obscure than previously known.

If humcalc216 hadn't posted, I would never have checked that scenario. I'm pretty sure that I checked boons working when gained on opponent's turn during testing, but I didn't check the time when the 3 'keep out' boons returned. I guess this problem will have executed a few times online, but never realized by a player, because it is such a small deviation. I mean, who's keeping an eye out on the boon deck split, except maybe checking when a reshuffle is imminent.

Added:In addition, finding problems is often team work. In this case, after verifying the original claim, I tested how the 'Keep this unitl Clean-Up' boons behaved when gained on opponent's turn. Guess what, they also don't return to the boon deck at the end of that turn, but incorrectly at the end of your (the gainer's) turn. So the problem is less obscure than previously known.

If humcalc216 hadn't posted, I would never have checked that scenario. I'm pretty sure that I checked boons working when gained on opponent's turn during testing, but I didn't check the time when the 3 'keep out' boons returned. I guess this problem will have executed a few times online, but never realized by a player, because it is such a small deviation. I mean, who's keeping an eye out on the boon deck split, except maybe checking when a reshuffle is imminent.

Added:In addition, finding problems is often team work. In this case, after verifying the original claim, I tested how the 'Keep this unitl Clean-Up' boons behaved when gained on opponent's turn. Guess what, they also don't return to the boon deck at the end of that turn, but incorrectly at the end of your (the gainer's) turn. So the problem is less obscure than previously known.

If humcalc216 hadn't posted, I would never have checked that scenario. I'm pretty sure that I checked boons working when gained on opponent's turn during testing, but I didn't check the time when the 3 'keep out' boons returned. I guess this problem will have executed a few times online, but never realized by a player, because it is such a small deviation. I mean, who's keeping an eye out on the boon deck split, except maybe checking when a reshuffle is imminent.

Yeah, I'm not complaining about asking the rules question here, and it's great if it led to finding another problem. I'm saying, don't report it to ShuffleiT, because they are *busy*.