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Re: Pirates sign Liriano

The way Liriano has pitched the past several years has been quite Volquez-like. I think this is a good signing...for the Reds.

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Re: Pirates sign Liriano

I think this is another move that shows who the Pirates really are. Sign a reputation to try to prove you're a contender while hoping fans won't think about how poorly the player's performed recently. ERA over five the last two seasons, three of the last four.

Re: Pirates sign Liriano

Originally Posted by marcshoe

I think this is another move that shows who the Pirates really are. Sign a reputation to try to prove you're a contender while hoping fans won't think about how poorly the player's performed recently. ERA over five the last two seasons, three of the last four.

It reminds me very much of some of the Bowden years. Sign "name" reclamation projects and hope for the best. Unfortunately, as we learned many times, that's not enough to push you over the hump.

Re: Pirates sign Liriano

That's a lot of money for a guy who hasn't looked genuinely good since 2006.

"Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

Re: Pirates sign Liriano

Also, didn't Pittsburgh non-tender Jeff Karstens? I definitely think Karstens is better than Liriano, and is cheaper to boot.

"Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

Re: Pirates sign Liriano

Originally Posted by PuffyPig

This is the kind of guy you sign for $3M over 1 year with a chance to prove himself again.

I don't understand current baseball economics. Stephen Drew's $10M deal is another headscratcher for me. Guys I think should get a minor league deal & an invite to spring training are getting millions of dollars.

Re: Pirates sign Liriano

As someone said earlier, a lot of people were wondering why the Pirates wanted anything to do with AJ Burnett. Sometimes a change of scenery is all a guy needs -- especially a starting pitcher going from the AL to the NL. Not saying this was a good move for the Bucs, but I don't think it was a terrible one. They definitely needed another starting pitcher. They have a pretty decent rotation now from 1-5.

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