I have been trying to unsubscribe from this forum but admin doesn't want to help.

This is not a place where any security minded person should wants to be. With the new Lib. government and 25,000 new Muslim additions to this country coming ..........

I have voiced my position. No others have said anything difference from you ............... maybe they all agree with you or maybe they are the moderate majority who are afraid to speak up for fear of standing out or reprisals.

I am not a mod or admin and I really dont know enough about internet stuff anyway.. other than..

there is no security online.

perhaps others have not chimed in because they are patriotic canadians who dont want to see thier country demolished by a group of pedo worhipping, female hating, degenerate head choppers, bent on taking over the world and killing any who disagree..

I'm not an administrator so I can't offer advice about account issues.This site is a preppers forum. I have never read a posting on this site that has encouraged the reader to violence, or to gather together in any unlawful manner.Current events will lead us to discuss refugees and immigration. The religious and/or cultural background of 25,000 new "Canadians" is certainly worthy of discussion. The activities of similar refugees in other parts of the world is entirely relevant. The impact of their presence to the host countries is entirely relevant. Not everyone will agree with what they read, but there is room for disagreement, particularly based in fact. Evidence can always be presented. If, lets say for instance we can show that Islamic states themselves are progressive, or support human rights, then please show it.If we can show evidence that enclaves of similar cultural/religious beliefs in non-Islamic countries are welcoming, inclusive, tolerant, and working toward host country assimilation, then lets see it. What are Islamic countries that aren't currently at war doing? Are they opening their borders with free citizenship, money, food, etc...? Can we see evidence of that?What about the refugees themselves? Maybe they are just grateful for being welcomed into other country with food, shelter, money, etc... Can we show that?Maybe they are so happy to be free from tyranny that they will be compliant. Can we show that?

The body of evidence that I have seen doesn't support the above, but I'm willing to be shown evidence to the contrary.

Getting back to the topic at hand, and this statement:

"This is not a place where any security minded person should want to be. With the new Lib. government and 25000 new Muslim additions to this country coming..."

If the sound of jack boots ever ring out in Canadian streets, then we as preppers will hopefully have discussed this threat ahead of time and can be best prepared to deal with it.

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Refugees refusing to leave bus in 'too cold' Sweden to be removedFourteen people have stayed on the bus since it reached Limedsforsen three days ago, saying the village is too cold and isolated A man checks a map of Sweden after arriving at Malmo train station in Sweden in September; others have refused to leave a bus close to the Norwegian border due to the cold.

Swedish authorities were called on Wednesday to remove a group of refugees who have refused to get off a bus after being taken to a village three days ago, saying it was “too cold” and isolated.

“There are 14 people inside and around the buses who don’t want to move into the [asylum] centre,” Migration Agency spokeswoman Maria Lofgren told AFP.

The Guardian view on Sweden and immigration: breaking point

They were part of a group of 60 Syrians and Iraqis brought by bus on Sunday to Limedsforsen, close to the Norwegian border, to a village of wooden chalets where they were to stay while their asylum claims were assessed.

“The bus company has called the Swedish Enforcement Authority,” Lofgren said. The authority acts as bailiffs during evictions.

“We have asked for them to be evicted,” said the head of the Westin Buss transport company, Kenneth Johansson.

The group refusing to get off the bus have complained about being in a forest dozens of kilometres from the nearest town, and many of them have demanded to be taken to a big city, or even to Germany.

“It’s not totally in the middle of nowhere. There is a shop and buses,” Lofgren said.

The refugees were taken to Limedsforsen, close to Sweden’s border with Norway.The Migration Agency says the country is receiving so many refugees – 10,000 a week – that structures set up to deal with them are being overwhelmed and it is beginning to erect tents to house some of the arrivals.

“With the number of arrivals continuing to increase, the accommodations we can find are further and further away from the big cities,” Lofgren said, adding that cases of people refusing their relocation sites were still rare.

Sweden, with a population of 9.8 million, expects to receive up to 190,000 asylum applications this year, putting it among the EU states with the highest proportion of refugees per capita as the continent struggles with a massive number of displaced people.

But the country’s long, dark winter, where temperatures can fall as low as -30C, is a major challenge for people moving from warmer climes.

Doersall one thing that is cherished in the western world and particularly in this magnificent country in which we live is freedom of speech. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and has the right to express their opinion. Everyone on this forum is free to express their view. It may not be view that others agree with and that can lead to a lively discussion. We may dispute the view and argue the point but we do not attack the poster.

The original post by Zeker was accompanied by an article from the media. Throughout this discussion Zeker reinforced the discussion with media clips not unsubstantiated opinion. Your choice of words to describe it was unfortunate. You have not produced anything to support your position other than it is what you believe.

Other members have stated their views too and they in some part were based on actual experience. So confronted with media "facts", descriptions from personal experience and seemingly overwhelming opposition to your view your response is to leave the forum?

We are all preppers because we believe in self reliance in case of disaster. Part of that self reliance is networking with like minded individuals so that in the case of disaster where government resources are overwhelmed we may come together and work for the common good. So what would you do if something truly disastrous happened and you were lucky enough to be part of a surviving, thriving group when a difference of opinion arose? Leave? Just asking.

I have a feeling we could of had a good sharing of views, without rancor. Finding solutions to any problem depends on first finding the right questions. I don.t think you are there yet but I love reading the reasoned approach.

By the way, I don't either. I am at the moment just trying to figure out how to survive the insanity.

I still have contact with my family in my old country (Slovakia) and they just told me that Slovakia on the beginning took over one thousand" refugees" gave them all apartments and jobs , but now they are all leaving for Finland or Sweden because thy are saying they were expecting everything free and they don't have to work.So Canada better be ready next year to take care of 25000 of them. i hope our new government will allow them to even cover their faces when they pick up welfare checks.I can hardly wait to share my prep.food with them.henry