New Ethnic origins

Family Tree DNA released their new Ethnic origins classification today and it s a bit more comprehensive, although I m far from an authority on DNA, I would

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Family Tree DNA released their new Ethnic origins classification today
and it's a bit more comprehensive, although I'm far from an authority on
DNA, I would say that I'm a novice.

These are my ethnic classifications.

European - 59% North Mediterranean Basin, the map shows primarily northern Spain, most likely Basque and south central Italy.New
World - shows 23% Bering Expansion, that would be down the Bering
strait and along the western coast of the Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)??East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian?Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic PlateAfrican - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?)East Afroasiatic 2%North African Coastlands 1 %

Alicia

Gary Felix

Hi Alicia, ... Yes in addition to East Asian. ... The center of this expansion is around Japan and Korea. Since Amerinds are about 20K years removed from NE

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Hi Alicia,

>Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)??

Yes in addition to East Asian.

>East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian?

The center of this expansion is around Japan and Korea. Since Amerinds are about 20K years removed from NE Asia, and the Na Dene are about 8K years, there should be enough of a difference to be able to separate NA from East Asian DNA. Gedmatch is much better at doing this. We all seem to be showing East Asian as one of our genetic populations.

>Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate - my own question is does anyone show this on gedmatch? The only connections I know of is are the Portuguese colonizers whos descendants marry among themselves or the Roma.

>African - 3% - Niger,
Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) This would likely be from the slave trade and those of us with full ancestry from Mexico show about 2 or 3 percent on average.

Family Tree DNA released their new Ethnic origins classification today
and it's a bit more comprehensive, although I'm far from an authority on
DNA, I would say that I'm a novice.

These are my ethnic classifications.

European - 59% North Mediterranean Basin, the map shows primarily northern Spain, most likely Basque and south central Italy.New
World - shows 23% Bering Expansion, that would be down the Bering
strait and along the western coast of the Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)??East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian?Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic PlateAfrican - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?)East Afroasiatic 2%North African Coastlands 1 %

Alicia

JOEL SR

Halo: Does FTDNA provide a directory or list for all Individual Indians by tribe in there gene pool? How many tribes are in the gene pool? What specific tribes

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Halo:

Does FTDNA provide a directory or list for all Individual Indians by tribe in there gene pool?

How many tribes are in the gene pool? What specific tribes are in the pool? Federal and state recognized tribes?

What is the size of the Indian/tribal pool? How many?

Does FTDNA confirm by testing if there are any full bloods, Indians, in there DNA pool by specific tribe?

Are these DNA pools current or a collection from what specific time frame e.g. 1900's or 2000 etc..

My interest is primary for North America VS South America with the names of the specific tribes.

r. Eske Willerslev has acquired samples taken from a few, about 11 members of the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama in 2014 who have provided a saliva DNA sample for autosomal.

I do not know the DNA pool size Dr. Willerslev has of current North American Indians and the specific tribes. Especially those tribes in Alabama, Georgia etc. southeast USA that are current tribal populations, 2014.

>Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)??

Yes in addition to East Asian.

>East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian?

The center of this expansion is around Japan and Korea. Since Amerinds are about 20K years removed from NE Asia, and the Na Dene are about 8K years, there should be enough of a difference to be able to separate NA from East Asian DNA. Gedmatch is much better at doing this. We all seem to be showing East Asian as one of our genetic populations.

>Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate - my own question is does anyone show this on gedmatch? The only connections I know of is are the Portuguese colonizers whos descendants marry among themselves or the Roma.

>African - 3% - Niger,
Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) This would likely be from the slave trade and those of us with full ancestry from Mexico show about 2 or 3 percent on average.

Family Tree DNA released their new Ethnic origins classification today
and it's a bit more comprehensive, although I'm far from an authority on
DNA, I would say that I'm a novice. These are my ethnic classifications. European - 59% North Mediterranean Basin, the map shows primarily northern Spain, most likely Basque and south central Italy. New
World - shows 23% Bering Expansion, that would be down the Bering
strait and along the western coast of the Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)?? East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian? Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) East Afroasiatic 2% North African Coastlands 1 %

Alicia

Teddi Montes

I have recently tested 2 Native Americans/First Nation w FTDNA. One is Pai Pai and the other Kumiyaay-BOTH in Mexico. Still waiting on the second s results

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I have recently tested 2 Native Americans/First Nation w FTDNA. One is Pai Pai and the other Kumiyaay-BOTH in Mexico. Still waiting on the second's results but the Pai Pai elder came back at 74% NA, European abt 23%, the rest Yakut, east Asia.....y and mtdna on order.

I will be returning to the area in the fall and do more trees and testing.

Teddi Montes

Halo:

Does FTDNA provide a directory or list for all Individual Indians by tribe in there gene pool?

How many tribes are in the gene pool? What specific tribes are in the pool? Federal and state recognized tribes?

What is the size of the Indian/tribal pool? How many?

Does FTDNA confirm by testing if there are any full bloods, Indians, in there DNA pool by specific tribe?

Are these DNA pools current or a collection from what specific time frame e.g. 1900's or 2000 etc..

My interest is primary for North America VS South America with the names of the specific tribes.

r. Eske Willerslev has acquired samples taken from a few, about 11 members of the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama in 2014 who have provided a saliva DNA sample for autosomal.

I do not know the DNA pool size Dr. Willerslev has of current North American Indians and the specific tribes. Especially those tribes in Alabama, Georgia etc. southeast USA that are current tribal populations, 2014.

>Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)??

Yes in addition to East Asian.

>East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian?

The center of this expansion is around Japan and Korea. Since Amerinds are about 20K years removed from NE Asia, and the Na Dene are about 8K years, there should be enough of a difference to be able to separate NA from East Asian DNA. Gedmatch is much better at doing this. We all seem to be showing East Asian as one of our genetic populations.

>Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate - my own question is does anyone show this on gedmatch? The only connections I know of is are the Portuguese colonizers whos descendants marry among themselves or the Roma.

>African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) This would likely be from the slave trade and those of us with full ancestry from Mexico show about 2 or 3 percent on average.

Family Tree DNA released their new Ethnic origins classification today and it's a bit more comprehensive, although I'm far from an authority on DNA, I would say that I'm a novice. These are my ethnic classifications. European - 59% North Mediterranean Basin, the map shows primarily northern Spain, most likely Basque and south central Italy. New World - shows 23% Bering Expansion, that would be down the Bering strait and along the western coast of the Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)?? East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian? Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) East Afroasiatic 2% North African Coastlands 1 %

Alicia

Joel Peres

Hi Teddi What kind of European did the Native American come back as? Thanks! ᐧ ... Hi Teddi What kind of European did the Native American come back as?

I have recently tested 2 Native Americans/First Nation w FTDNA. One is Pai Pai and the other Kumiyaay-BOTH in Mexico. Still waiting on the second's results but the Pai Pai elder came back at 74% NA, European abt 23%, the rest Yakut, east Asia.....y and mtdna on order.

I will be returning to the area in the fall and do more trees and testing.

Teddi Montes

Halo:

Does FTDNA provide a directory or list for all Individual Indians by tribe in there gene pool?

How many tribes are in the gene pool? What specific tribes are in the pool? Federal and state recognized tribes?

What is the size of the Indian/tribal pool? How many?

Does FTDNA confirm by testing if there are any full bloods, Indians, in there DNA pool by specific tribe?

Are these DNA pools current or a collection from what specific time frame e.g. 1900's or 2000 etc..

My interest is primary for North America VS South America with the names of the specific tribes.

r. Eske Willerslev has acquired samples taken from a few, about 11 members of the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama in 2014 who have provided a saliva DNA sample for autosomal.

I do not know the DNA pool size Dr. Willerslev has of current North American Indians and the specific tribes. Especially those tribes in Alabama, Georgia etc. southeast USA that are current tribal populations, 2014.

>Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)??

Yes in addition to East Asian.

>East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian?

The center of this expansion is around Japan and Korea. Since Amerinds are about 20K years removed from NE Asia, and the Na Dene are about 8K years, there should be enough of a difference to be able to separate NA from East Asian DNA. Gedmatch is much better at doing this. We all seem to be showing East Asian as one of our genetic populations.

>Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate - my own question is does anyone show this on gedmatch? The only connections I know of is are the Portuguese colonizers whos descendants marry among themselves or the Roma.

>African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) This would likely be from the slave trade and those of us with full ancestry from Mexico show about 2 or 3 percent on average.

Family Tree DNA released their new Ethnic origins classification today and it's a bit more comprehensive, although I'm far from an authority on DNA, I would say that I'm a novice.These are my ethnic classifications.European - 59% North Mediterranean Basin, the map shows primarily northern Spain, most likely Basque and south central Italy.New World - shows 23% Bering Expansion, that would be down the Bering strait and along the western coast of the Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)??East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian?Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic PlateAfrican - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?)East Afroasiatic 2%North African Coastlands 1 %

Alicia

Teddi Montes

With my two test kits from Mexico. they now have ONE Kumiyaay and ONE Pai Pai....more in the fall as I will be adding Kiliwa and others to the database. Teddi

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With my two test kits from Mexico. they now have ONE Kumiyaay and ONE Pai Pai....more in the fall as I will be adding Kiliwa and others to the database.

Teddi Montes

On May 7, 2014, at 8:00 AM, JOEL SR wrote:

Halo:

Does FTDNA provide a directory or list for all Individual Indians by tribe in there gene pool?

How many tribes are in the gene pool? What specific tribes are in the pool? Federal and state recognized tribes?

What is the size of the Indian/tribal pool? How many?

Does FTDNA confirm by testing if there are any full bloods, Indians, in there DNA pool by specific tribe?

Are these DNA pools current or a collection from what specific time frame e.g. 1900's or 2000 etc..

My interest is primary for North America VS South America with the names of the specific tribes.

r. Eske Willerslev has acquired samples taken from a few, about 11 members of the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama in 2014 who have provided a saliva DNA sample for autosomal.

I do not know the DNA pool size Dr. Willerslev has of current North American Indians and the specific tribes. Especially those tribes in Alabama, Georgia etc. southeast USA that are current tribal populations, 2014.

>Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)??

Yes in addition to East Asian.

>East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian?

The center of this expansion is around Japan and Korea. Since Amerinds are about 20K years removed from NE Asia, and the Na Dene are about 8K years, there should be enough of a difference to be able to separate NA from East Asian DNA. Gedmatch is much better at doing this. We all seem to be showing East Asian as one of our genetic populations.

>Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate - my own question is does anyone show this on gedmatch? The only connections I know of is are the Portuguese colonizers whos descendants marry among themselves or the Roma.

>African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) This would likely be from the slave trade and those of us with full ancestry from Mexico show about 2 or 3 percent on average.

Family Tree DNA released their new Ethnic origins classification today and it's a bit more comprehensive, although I'm far from an authority on DNA, I would say that I'm a novice. These are my ethnic classifications. European - 59% North Mediterranean Basin, the map shows primarily northern Spain, most likely Basque and south central Italy. New World - shows 23% Bering Expansion, that would be down the Bering strait and along the western coast of the Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)?? East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian? Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) East Afroasiatic 2% North African Coastlands 1 %

Alicia

Joel Peres

Hi Teddi What kind of European did the Native American come back as? Thanks! ᐧ ... Hi Teddi What kind of European did the Native American come back as?

r. Eske Willerslev has acquired samples taken from a few, about 11 members of the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama in 2014 who have provided a saliva DNA sample for autosomal.

I do not know the DNA pool size Dr. Willerslev has of current North American Indians and the specific tribes. Especially those tribes in Alabama, Georgia etc. southeast USA that are current tribal populations, 2014.

>Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)??

Yes in addition to East Asian.

>East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian?

The center of this expansion is around Japan and Korea. Since Amerinds are about 20K years removed from NE Asia, and the Na Dene are about 8K years, there should be enough of a difference to be able to separate NA from East Asian DNA. Gedmatch is much better at doing this. We all seem to be showing East Asian as one of our genetic populations.

>Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate - my own question is does anyone show this on gedmatch? The only connections I know of is are the Portuguese colonizers whos descendants marry among themselves or the Roma.

>African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) This would likely be from the slave trade and those of us with full ancestry from Mexico show about 2 or 3 percent on average.

Family Tree DNA released their new Ethnic origins classification today and it's a bit more comprehensive, although I'm far from an authority on DNA, I would say that I'm a novice.These are my ethnic classifications.European - 59% North Mediterranean Basin, the map shows primarily northern Spain, most likely Basque and south central Italy.New World - shows 23% Bering Expansion, that would be down the Bering strait and along the western coast of the Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)??East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian?Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic PlateAfrican - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?)East Afroasiatic 2%North African Coastlands 1 %

Alicia

Gary Felix

Hello Joel K., FTDNA only list the expansion point. Maybe someone has seen the reference populations. If you have submitted your results to Gedmatch.Com (MDLP

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Hello Joel K.,

FTDNA only list the expansion point. Maybe someone has seen the reference populations.

If you have submitted your results to Gedmatch.Com (MDLP
World-22 4-Ancestors Oracle), what were your results?

r. Eske Willerslev has acquired samples taken from a few, about 11 members of the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama in 2014 who have provided a saliva DNA sample for autosomal.

I do not know the DNA pool size Dr. Willerslev has of current North American Indians and the specific tribes. Especially those tribes in Alabama, Georgia etc. southeast USA that are current tribal populations, 2014.

>Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)??

Yes in addition to East Asian.

>East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian?

The center of this expansion is around Japan and Korea. Since Amerinds are about 20K years removed from NE Asia, and the Na Dene are about 8K years, there should be enough of a difference to be able to separate NA from
East Asian DNA. Gedmatch is much better at doing this. We all seem to be showing East Asian as one of our genetic populations.

>Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate - my own question is does anyone show this on gedmatch? The only connections I know of is are the Portuguese colonizers whos descendants marry among themselves or the Roma.

>African - 3% - Niger,
Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) This would likely be from the slave trade and those of us with full ancestry from Mexico show about 2 or 3 percent on average.

Family Tree DNA released their new Ethnic origins classification today
and it's a bit more comprehensive, although I'm far from an authority on
DNA, I would say that I'm a novice. These are my ethnic classifications. European - 59% North Mediterranean Basin, the map shows primarily northern Spain, most likely Basque and south central Italy. New
World - shows 23% Bering Expansion, that would be down the Bering
strait and along the western coast of the Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)?? East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian? Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) East Afroasiatic 2% North African Coastlands 1 %

Alicia

JOEL SR

Gary: What are the number of North American Indians by tribes in the gene pool for only North American Indians? Same question for Central and South America

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Gary:

What are the number of North American Indians by tribes in the gene pool for only North American Indians?

Same question for Central and South America for specific Indian tribes in the gene pool?

Vadim:

Thank you for your response.

I am an enrolled Cherokee Indian with the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama. I am list as 2/4 DIB Cherokee.

Dr. Eske Willerslev has done DNA autosomal research with the Mal'ta male child from a Siberia dated 24,000, MA-1, the Anzick-1, male child in Montana, USA, dated 17,000 and I and others, total 11, with the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama have
provided saliva DNA samples to be compared with known gene pools and the Mal'ta child and the Anzick child.

To my knowledge there are no know DNA samples from Alabama from official government recognized tribes in Alabama for 2014.

r. Eske Willerslev has acquired samples taken from a few, about 11 members of the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama in 2014 who have provided a saliva DNA sample for autosomal.

I do not know the DNA pool size Dr. Willerslev has of current North American Indians and the specific tribes. Especially those tribes in Alabama, Georgia etc. southeast USA that are current tribal populations, 2014.

>Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)??

Yes in addition to East Asian.

>East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian?

The center of this expansion is around Japan and Korea. Since Amerinds are about 20K years removed from NE Asia, and the Na Dene are about 8K years, there should be enough of a difference to be able to separate NA
from
East Asian DNA. Gedmatch is much better at doing this. We all seem to be showing East Asian as one of our genetic populations.

>Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate - my own question is does anyone show this on gedmatch? The only connections I know of is are the Portuguese colonizers whos descendants marry among themselves or the Roma.

>African - 3% - Niger,
Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) This would likely be from the slave trade and those of us with full ancestry from Mexico show about 2 or 3 percent on average.

Family Tree DNA released their new Ethnic origins classification today
and it's a bit more comprehensive, although I'm far from an authority on
DNA, I would say that I'm a novice. These are my ethnic classifications. European - 59% North Mediterranean Basin, the map shows primarily northern Spain, most likely Basque and south central Italy. New
World - shows 23% Bering Expansion, that would be down the Bering
strait and along the western coast of the Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)?? East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian? Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) East Afroasiatic 2% North African Coastlands 1 %

Alicia

Teddi Montes

Gary and all-Mexico is a part of North America and there are still tribes that today go back and forth across that political border as in the Pai Pai,

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Gary and all-Mexico is a part of North America and there are still tribes that today go back and forth across that political border as in the Pai Pai, Kumiyaay, Cucupah, Yaqui and others. For many years it was a problem for some but now with the right paperwork, these families can visit each other as in the past.

Teddi Montes

The Californio DNA Project/El Proyecto de ADN de los Californios

On May 7, 2014, at 3:42 PM, JOEL SR wrote:

Gary:

What are the number of North American Indians by tribes in the gene pool for only North American Indians?

Same question for Central and South America for specific Indian tribes in the gene pool?

Vadim:

Thank you for your response.

I am an enrolled Cherokee Indian with the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama. I am list as 2/4 DIB Cherokee.

Dr. Eske Willerslev has done DNA autosomal research with the Mal'ta male child from a Siberia dated 24,000, MA-1, the Anzick-1, male child in Montana, USA, dated 17,000 and I and others, total 11, with the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama have provided saliva DNA samples to be compared with known gene pools and the Mal'ta child and the Anzick child.

To my knowledge there are no know DNA samples from Alabama from official government recognized tribes in Alabama for 2014.

r. Eske Willerslev has acquired samples taken from a few, about 11 members of the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama in 2014 who have provided a saliva DNA sample for autosomal.

I do not know the DNA pool size Dr. Willerslev has of current North American Indians and the specific tribes. Especially those tribes in Alabama, Georgia etc. southeast USA that are current tribal populations, 2014.

>Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)??

Yes in addition to East Asian.

>East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian?

The center of this expansion is around Japan and Korea. Since Amerinds are about 20K years removed from NE Asia, and the Na Dene are about 8K years, there should be enough of a difference to be able to separate NA from East Asian DNA. Gedmatch is much better at doing this. We all seem to be showing East Asian as one of our genetic populations.

>Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate - my own question is does anyone show this on gedmatch? The only connections I know of is are the Portuguese colonizers whos descendants marry among themselves or the Roma.

>African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) This would likely be from the slave trade and those of us with full ancestry from Mexico show about 2 or 3 percent on average.

Family Tree DNA released their new Ethnic origins classification today and it's a bit more comprehensive, although I'm far from an authority on DNA, I would say that I'm a novice. These are my ethnic classifications. European - 59% North Mediterranean Basin, the map shows primarily northern Spain, most likely Basque and south central Italy. New World - shows 23% Bering Expansion, that would be down the Bering strait and along the western coast of the Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)?? East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian? Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) East Afroasiatic 2% North African Coastlands 1 %

Alicia

sangerjaime@...

Teddi, Not to get political, but now I know why I never felt as though I was illegal......... Jaime Rendon Hernandez ... From: Teddi Montes

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Teddi,

Not to get political, but now I know why I never felt as though I was illegal.........

Gary and all-Mexico is a part of North America and there are still tribes that today go back and forth across that political border as in the Pai Pai, Kumiyaay, Cucupah, Yaqui and others. For many years it was a problem for some but now with the right paperwork, these families can visit each other as in the past.

Teddi Montes

The Californio DNA Project/El Proyecto de ADN de los Californios

On May 7, 2014, at 3:42 PM, JOEL SR wrote:

Gary:

What are the number of North American Indians by tribes in the gene pool for only North American Indians?

Same question for Central and South America for specific Indian tribes in the gene pool?

Vadim:

Thank you for your response.

I am an enrolled Cherokee Indian with the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama. I am list as 2/4 DIB Cherokee.

Dr. Eske Willerslev has done DNA autosomal research with the Mal'ta male child from a Siberia dated 24,000, MA-1, the Anzick-1, male child in Montana, USA, dated 17,000 and I and others, total 11, with the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama have provided saliva DNA samples to be compared with known gene pools and the Mal'ta child and the Anzick child.

To my knowledge there are no know DNA samples from Alabama from official government recognized tribes in Alabama for 2014.

r. Eske Willerslev has acquired samples taken from a few, about 11 members of the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama in 2014 who have provided a saliva DNA sample for autosomal.

I do not know the DNA pool size Dr. Willerslev has of current North American Indians and the specific tribes. Especially those tribes in Alabama, Georgia etc. southeast USA that are current tribal populations, 2014.

>Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)??

Yes in addition to East Asian.

>East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian?

The center of this expansion is around Japan and Korea. Since Amerinds are about 20K years removed from NE Asia, and the Na Dene are about 8K years, there should be enough of a difference to be able to separate NA from East Asian DNA. Gedmatch is much better at doing this. We all seem to be showing East Asian as one of our genetic populations.

>Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate - my own question is does anyone show this on gedmatch? The only connections I know of is are the Portuguese colonizers whos descendants marry among themselves or the Roma.

>African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) This would likely be from the slave trade and those of us with full ancestry from Mexico show about 2 or 3 percent on average.

Family Tree DNA released their new Ethnic origins classification today and it's a bit more comprehensive, although I'm far from an authority on DNA, I would say that I'm a novice. These are my ethnic classifications. European - 59% North Mediterranean Basin, the map shows primarily northern Spain, most likely Basque and south central Italy. New World - shows 23% Bering Expansion, that would be down the Bering strait and along the western coast of the Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)?? East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian? Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) East Afroasiatic 2% North African Coastlands 1 %

Alicia

Gary Felix

Teddi, I mentioned Gedmatch s MDLP World-22 4-Ancestors Oracle because it is showing percentages from NA tribes in Calif. and baja Calif. for me which would

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Teddi,

I mentioned Gedmatch's MDLP World-22 4-Ancestors Oracle because it is showing percentages from NA tribes in Calif. and baja Calif. for me which would best reflect my Father's side of the family in Sonora. I was wondering if this utility was accurate in others as well for NA ancestry.

Gary and all-Mexico is a part of North America and there are still tribes that today go back and forth across that political border as in the Pai Pai, Kumiyaay, Cucupah, Yaqui and others. For many years it was a problem for some but now with the right paperwork, these families can visit each other as in the past.

Teddi Montes

The Californio DNA Project/El Proyecto de ADN de los Californios

On May 7, 2014, at 3:42 PM, JOEL SR wrote:

Gary:

What are the number of North American Indians by tribes in the gene pool for only North American Indians?

Same question for Central and South America for specific Indian tribes in the gene pool?

Vadim:

Thank you for your response.

I am an enrolled Cherokee Indian with the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama. I am list as 2/4 DIB Cherokee.

Dr. Eske Willerslev has done DNA autosomal research with the Mal'ta male child from a Siberia dated 24,000, MA-1, the Anzick-1, male child in Montana, USA, dated 17,000 and I and others, total 11, with the Echota Cherokee
Tribe of Alabama have provided saliva DNA samples to be compared with known gene pools and the Mal'ta child and the Anzick child.

To my knowledge there are no know DNA samples from Alabama from official government recognized tribes in Alabama for 2014.

r. Eske Willerslev has
acquired samples taken from a few, about 11 members of the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama in 2014 who have provided a saliva DNA sample for autosomal.

I do not know the DNA pool size Dr. Willerslev has of current North American Indians and the specific tribes. Especially those tribes in Alabama, Georgia etc. southeast USA that are current tribal populations, 2014.

>Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)??

Yes in addition to East Asian.

>East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian?

The center of this expansion is around Japan and Korea. Since Amerinds are about 20K years removed from NE Asia, and the Na Dene are about 8K years, there should be enough of a difference to be able to
separate NA from East Asian DNA. Gedmatch is much better at doing this. We all seem to be showing East Asian as one of our genetic populations.

>Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate - my own question is does anyone show this on gedmatch? The only connections I know of is are the Portuguese colonizers whos descendants marry among themselves or the Roma.

>African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) This would likely be from the slave trade and those of us with full ancestry from Mexico show about 2 or 3 percent on average.

Family Tree DNA released their new Ethnic origins classification today and it's a bit more comprehensive, although I'm far from an authority on DNA, I would say that I'm a novice. These are my ethnic classifications. European - 59% North Mediterranean
Basin, the map shows primarily northern Spain, most likely Basque and south central Italy. New World - shows 23% Bering Expansion, that would be down the Bering strait and along the western coast of the Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)?? East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian? Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) East Afroasiatic 2% North African Coastlands 1 %

Alicia

Gary Felix

Joel H., according to gedmatch you are less than 2 percent NA. Gary ________________________________ From: JOEL SR To:

What are the number of North American Indians by tribes in the gene pool for only North American Indians?

Same question for Central and South America for specific Indian tribes in the gene pool?

Vadim:

Thank you for your response.

I am an enrolled Cherokee Indian with the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama. I am list as 2/4 DIB Cherokee.

Dr. Eske Willerslev has done DNA autosomal research with the Mal'ta male child from a Siberia dated 24,000, MA-1, the Anzick-1, male child in Montana, USA, dated 17,000 and I and others, total
11, with the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama have
provided saliva DNA samples to be compared with known gene pools and the Mal'ta child and the Anzick child.

To my knowledge there are no know DNA samples from Alabama from official government recognized tribes in Alabama for 2014.

r. Eske Willerslev has acquired samples taken from a few, about 11 members of the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama in 2014 who have provided a saliva DNA sample for autosomal.

I do not know the DNA pool size Dr. Willerslev has of current North American Indians and the specific tribes. Especially those tribes in Alabama, Georgia etc. southeast USA that are current tribal populations, 2014.

>Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)??

Yes in addition to East Asian.

>East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian?

The center of this expansion is around Japan and Korea. Since Amerinds are about 20K years removed from NE Asia, and the Na Dene are about 8K years, there should be enough of a difference to be able to separate NA
from
East Asian DNA. Gedmatch is much better at doing this. We all seem to be showing East Asian as one of our genetic populations.

>Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate - my own question is does anyone show this on gedmatch? The only connections I know of is are the Portuguese colonizers whos descendants marry among themselves or the Roma.

>African - 3% - Niger,
Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) This would likely be from the slave trade and those of us with full ancestry from Mexico show about 2 or 3 percent on average.

Family Tree DNA released their new Ethnic origins classification today
and it's a bit more comprehensive, although I'm far from an authority on
DNA, I would say that I'm a novice. These are my ethnic classifications. European - 59% North Mediterranean Basin, the map shows primarily northern Spain, most likely Basque and south central Italy. New
World - shows 23% Bering Expansion, that would be down the Bering
strait and along the western coast of the Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)?? East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian? Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) East Afroasiatic 2% North African Coastlands 1 %

Alicia

Gary Felix

Otherwise it could reflect the Sonoran ancestry in the mission NA of California. Sonoran s moved north into California in 1776. Gary

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Otherwise it could reflect the Sonoran ancestry in the mission NA of California. Sonoran's moved north into California in 1776.

I mentioned Gedmatch's MDLP World-22 4-Ancestors Oracle because it is showing percentages from NA tribes in Calif. and baja Calif. for me which would best reflect my Father's side of the family in Sonora. I was wondering if this utility was accurate in others as well for NA ancestry.

Gary and all-Mexico is a part of North America and there are still tribes that today go back and forth across that political border as in the Pai Pai, Kumiyaay, Cucupah, Yaqui and others. For many years it was a problem for some but now with the right paperwork, these families can visit each other as in the past.

Teddi Montes

The Californio DNA Project/El Proyecto de ADN de los Californios

On May 7, 2014, at 3:42 PM, JOEL SR wrote:

Gary:

What are the number of North American Indians by tribes in the gene pool for only North American Indians?

Same question for Central and South America for specific Indian tribes in the gene pool?

Vadim:

Thank you for your response.

I am an enrolled Cherokee Indian with the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama. I am list as 2/4 DIB Cherokee.

Dr. Eske Willerslev has done DNA autosomal research with the Mal'ta male child from a Siberia dated 24,000, MA-1, the Anzick-1, male child in Montana, USA, dated 17,000 and I and others, total 11, with the Echota Cherokee
Tribe of Alabama have provided saliva DNA samples to be compared with known gene pools and the Mal'ta child and the Anzick child.

To my knowledge there are no know DNA samples from Alabama from official government recognized tribes in Alabama for 2014.

r. Eske Willerslev has
acquired samples taken from a few, about 11 members of the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama in 2014 who have provided a saliva DNA sample for autosomal.

I do not know the DNA pool size Dr. Willerslev has of current North American Indians and the specific tribes. Especially those tribes in Alabama, Georgia etc. southeast USA that are current tribal populations, 2014.

>Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)??

Yes in addition to East Asian.

>East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian?

The center of this expansion is around Japan and Korea. Since Amerinds are about 20K years removed from NE Asia, and the Na Dene are about 8K years, there should be enough of a difference to be able to
separate NA from East Asian DNA. Gedmatch is much better at doing this. We all seem to be showing East Asian as one of our genetic populations.

>Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate - my own question is does anyone show this on gedmatch? The only connections I know of is are the Portuguese colonizers whos descendants marry among themselves or the Roma.

>African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) This would likely be from the slave trade and those of us with full ancestry from Mexico show about 2 or 3 percent on average.

Family Tree DNA released their new Ethnic origins classification today and it's a bit more comprehensive, although I'm far from an authority on DNA, I would say that I'm a novice. These are my ethnic classifications. European - 59% North Mediterranean
Basin, the map shows primarily northern Spain, most likely Basque and south central Italy. New World - shows 23% Bering Expansion, that would be down the Bering strait and along the western coast of the Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)?? East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian? Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) East Afroasiatic 2% North African Coastlands 1 %

Alicia

Randal Soza

Interesting......GedMatch lists him as less than 2% NA, and yet he s 2/4 DIB Cherokee. Randal Soza Jewish Mexico Arizona Southwest US DNA Project Admin On May

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Interesting......GedMatch lists him as less than 2% NA, and yet he's 2/4 DIB Cherokee.

What are the number of North American Indians by tribes in the gene pool for only North American Indians?

Same question for Central and South America for specific Indian tribes in the gene pool?

Vadim:

Thank you for your response.

I am an enrolled Cherokee Indian with the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama. I am list as 2/4 DIB Cherokee.

Dr. Eske Willerslev has done DNA autosomal research with the Mal'ta male child from a Siberia dated 24,000, MA-1, the Anzick-1, male child in Montana, USA, dated 17,000 and I and others, total
11, with the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama have
provided saliva DNA samples to be compared with known gene pools and the Mal'ta child and the Anzick child.

To my knowledge there are no know DNA samples from Alabama from official government recognized tribes in Alabama for 2014.

r. Eske Willerslev has acquired samples taken from a few, about 11 members of the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama in 2014 who have provided a saliva DNA sample for autosomal.

I do not know the DNA pool size Dr. Willerslev has of current North American Indians and the specific tribes. Especially those tribes in Alabama, Georgia etc. southeast USA that are current tribal populations, 2014.

>Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)??

Yes in addition to East Asian.

>East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian?

The center of this expansion is around Japan and Korea. Since Amerinds are about 20K years removed from NE Asia, and the Na Dene are about 8K years, there should be enough of a difference to be able to separate NA
from
East Asian DNA. Gedmatch is much better at doing this. We all seem to be showing East Asian as one of our genetic populations.

>Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate - my own question is does anyone show this on gedmatch? The only connections I know of is are the Portuguese colonizers whos descendants marry among themselves or the Roma.

>African - 3% - Niger,
Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) This would likely be from the slave trade and those of us with full ancestry from Mexico show about 2 or 3 percent on average.

Family Tree DNA released their new Ethnic origins classification today
and it's a bit more comprehensive, although I'm far from an authority on
DNA, I would say that I'm a novice. These are my ethnic classifications. European - 59% North Mediterranean Basin, the map shows primarily northern Spain, most likely Basque and south central Italy. New
World - shows 23% Bering Expansion, that would be down the Bering
strait and along the western coast of the Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)?? East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian? Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) East Afroasiatic 2% North African Coastlands 1 %

Alicia

Teddi Montes

Well, my native American Pai Pai testee, FF results about a week ago, originally had 74% Native American, abt 23% Euro, and 4% or so Yakut, Han.... NOW as of

NOW as of yesterday, a whole 'nuther bunch of stuff...so what do we make of this???

New is:

New World 47%

Bering Expansion 47%

European 27%

Euro northlands 25%

Euro coastal islands 2%

East Asian 19%

Asian Northeast 19%

Central/south Asian 4%

Eurasian heartland 4%

Middle Eastern 3%

North African Coastlands 3%

This man's family has been in this same village for over 6 generations and this is a KNOWN Pai Pai community. His 3 generation tree has a surname connection to Spanish/Mexican ranchos of the 1800s in San Diego county.

Any thought on this?? The more I learn the less I know.

Teddi Montes

On May 8, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Randal Soza wrote:

Interesting......GedMatch lists him as less than 2% NA, and yet he's 2/4 DIB Cherokee.

What are the number of North American Indians by tribes in the gene pool for only North American Indians?

Same question for Central and South America for specific Indian tribes in the gene pool?

Vadim:

Thank you for your response.

I am an enrolled Cherokee Indian with the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama. I am list as 2/4 DIB Cherokee.

Dr. Eske Willerslev has done DNA autosomal research with the Mal'ta male child from a Siberia dated 24,000, MA-1, the Anzick-1, male child in Montana, USA, dated 17,000 and I and others, total 11, with the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama have provided saliva DNA samples to be compared with known gene pools and the Mal'ta child and the Anzick child.

To my knowledge there are no know DNA samples from Alabama from official government recognized tribes in Alabama for 2014.

r. Eske Willerslev has acquired samples taken from a few, about 11 members of the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama in 2014 who have provided a saliva DNA sample for autosomal.

I do not know the DNA pool size Dr. Willerslev has of current North American Indians and the specific tribes. Especially those tribes in Alabama, Georgia etc. southeast USA that are current tribal populations, 2014.

>Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)??

Yes in addition to East Asian.

>East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian?

The center of this expansion is around Japan and Korea. Since Amerinds are about 20K years removed from NE Asia, and the Na Dene are about 8K years, there should be enough of a difference to be able to separate NA from East Asian DNA. Gedmatch is much better at doing this. We all seem to be showing East Asian as one of our genetic populations.

>Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate - my own question is does anyone show this on gedmatch? The only connections I know of is are the Portuguese colonizers whos descendants marry among themselves or the Roma.

>African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) This would likely be from the slave trade and those of us with full ancestry from Mexico show about 2 or 3 percent on average.

Family Tree DNA released their new Ethnic origins classification today and it's a bit more comprehensive, although I'm far from an authority on DNA, I would say that I'm a novice. These are my ethnic classifications. European - 59% North Mediterranean Basin, the map shows primarily northern Spain, most likely Basque and south central Italy. New World - shows 23% Bering Expansion, that would be down the Bering strait and along the western coast of the Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)?? East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian? Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) East Afroasiatic 2% North African Coastlands 1 %

Alicia

Randal Soza

For me, the results still basically say the same thing......Native American....the European and Asian influences make up the Beringian peoples....further

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For me, the results still basically say the same thing......Native American....the European and Asian influences make up the Beringian peoples....further expansion into the Americas refined into what is known as Native American, but the European and Asian still presents itself. So to me, the Population Finder had given seriously broad and general ethnicity, but now MyOrigins has refined it further. But the results still show European, Asian, Native American, which is what it showed before too. For me though the odd man out is the Middle Eastern.

Anyone with Middle Eastern DNA could've slipped into the family tree at anytime within the last 10 generations (over 1,000 people). Same with any extra European or Asian influence not identified as "old Native American" DNA.

So in summary, if you add up the old Pop Finder results, you get 101% Native American/European/Asian, and NOW with MyOrigins you get 97% Native American/European/Asian and 3% Middle Eastern. Which means either of three things. One, either there IS Middle Eastern presented from someone in the tree, OR this is another one of those discrepancy/bugs we are seeing, OR the Middle Eastern is being pulled from/misrepresented from another data set or the data set is not represented within the population data base reference, and Middle Eastern is the closest representation.

NOW as of yesterday, a whole 'nuther bunch of stuff...so what do we make of this???

New is:

New World 47%

Bering Expansion 47%

European 27%

Euro northlands 25%

Euro coastal islands 2%

East Asian 19%

Asian Northeast 19%

Central/south Asian 4%

Eurasian heartland 4%

Middle Eastern 3%

North African Coastlands 3%

This man's family has been in this same village for over 6 generations and this is a KNOWN Pai Pai community. His 3 generation tree has a surname connection to Spanish/Mexican ranchos of the 1800s in San Diego county.

Any thought on this?? The more I learn the less I know.

Teddi Montes

On May 8, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Randal Soza wrote:

Interesting......GedMatch lists him as less than 2% NA, and yet he's 2/4 DIB Cherokee.

What are the number of North American Indians by tribes in the gene pool for only North American Indians?

Same question for Central and South America for specific Indian tribes in the gene pool?

Vadim:

Thank you for your response.

I am an enrolled Cherokee Indian with the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama. I am list as 2/4 DIB Cherokee.

Dr. Eske Willerslev has done DNA autosomal research with the Mal'ta male child from a Siberia dated 24,000, MA-1, the Anzick-1, male child in Montana, USA, dated 17,000 and I and others, total 11, with the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama have provided saliva DNA samples to be compared with known gene pools and the Mal'ta child and the Anzick child.

To my knowledge there are no know DNA samples from Alabama from official government recognized tribes in Alabama for 2014.

r. Eske Willerslev has acquired samples taken from a few, about 11 members of the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama in 2014 who have provided a saliva DNA sample for autosomal.

I do not know the DNA pool size Dr. Willerslev has of current North American Indians and the specific tribes. Especially those tribes in Alabama, Georgia etc. southeast USA that are current tribal populations, 2014.

>Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)??

Yes in addition to East Asian.

>East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian?

The center of this expansion is around Japan and Korea. Since Amerinds are about 20K years removed from NE Asia, and the Na Dene are about 8K years, there should be enough of a difference to be able to separate NA from East Asian DNA. Gedmatch is much better at doing this. We all seem to be showing East Asian as one of our genetic populations.

>Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate - my own question is does anyone show this on gedmatch? The only connections I know of is are the Portuguese colonizers whos descendants marry among themselves or the Roma.

>African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) This would likely be from the slave trade and those of us with full ancestry from Mexico show about 2 or 3 percent on average.

Family Tree DNA released their new Ethnic origins classification today and it's a bit more comprehensive, although I'm far from an authority on DNA, I would say that I'm a novice. These are my ethnic classifications. European - 59% North Mediterranean Basin, the map shows primarily northern Spain, most likely Basque and south central Italy. New World - shows 23% Bering Expansion, that would be down the Bering strait and along the western coast of the Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)?? East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian? Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) East Afroasiatic 2% North African Coastlands 1 %

Alicia

JOEL SR

Halo Amigos: I have additional information to share as to how the BIA, Bureau of Indian Affairs, determines tribal enrollment for a federal tribe. Check

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Halo Amigos:

I have additional information to share as to how the BIA, Bureau of Indian Affairs, determines tribal enrollment for a federal tribe.

Check the BIA degree of Indian blood quantum chart.

The BIA sets no minimum blood quantum requirement for acknowledgement purposes, but does require decent from a historic tribe e.g. Cherokee, Creek, Choctaw. Chickasaw and
Seminole etc.. These are historic tribes. Blood quantum is a tribal issue and not a federal government issue.

One does not need to be an Indian to be an enrolled Creek, Seminole etc. unless the specific tribe requires a DIB and family blood proof. Ones is enrolled at birth or by matching someone on a roll or a current tribal member as a relative e.g. cousin, brother etc..

Each tribe is a sovereign nation as the USA. How does the USA determine who is an American citizen? American citizens are of all colors and races. Well each tribe have individuals of all colors and races as tribal citizens. Each Tribe, Indian, determines who is a citizen in there
nation.

Anyone who is my relative by blood is eligible to seek enrollment with the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama. If I were enrolled with any tribe as the Cherokee Nation one could then seek enrollment as well.

There are some statistical issues related to the analysis process such as the gene pool.

Gene pool for 10,000, 100,000 what size and what tribes?

How many specific North American tribes, e.g. Eastern Band of Cherokees, Cherokee Nation and other tribes in Alabama, Tennessee
etc., are in
the gene pool?

What is the sample size, N for number, of the proven gene population to analyzed?

My
ancestors, Tissie was in Texas and possibly Mexico as well as Sequoyah, from Alabama whose father was Irish, in 1780. Also, the Kickapoo tribe as well.

Little Terrapin was removed from Alabama to Indian territory, now Oklahoma, in 1835 or about. I think was listed as a full blood, but no scientific proof for DIB was possible.

Sequoyah was buried in Mexico. Sequoyah was at best 2/4, but could have been 1/8. No scientific proof with the DNA.

The BIA DIB quantum chart has a category for non-Indian.

All DIBs are calculated from a relative, my mother as
full-blood, without any verification the individual was Indian at all from a scientific perspective.

A federal roll or a birth certificate is not a scientific verification one is an Indian. However, it does prove family members are related to each other. Tribes are family members. All blood family members regardless to Y/mt hgs and autosomal markers are tribal members.

I am participating in the Cherokee DNA project with Dr. Ronald Yates who has taken DNA samples from Individuals who are considered to be Cherokee as tribal enrollment.

Dr. Yates had DNA sequenced for my mt which he concluded was as Native American on not having any
old world markers, but all new world markers. How valid is this assessment? I do not know.

Richard Flores, Y DNA is Q, is a family relative by DNA, Mexican Indian.

I am participating in the DNA autosomal project with Dr. Eske Willerslev comparing the Mal'ta male child, MA-1, the Anzick-1 from Montana and members of the Echota Cherokee Nation from Alabama with my relative Richard Flores who is Mexican Indian.

All markers in ones genes are not sequenced in the DNA analysis. How many markers do not show my Cherokee Indian gene
markers?

Another issue of concern is tribal enrollment. Tribal enrollment by the Eastern Band of Cherokee and the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma.

Both tribes use federal rolls for enrollment. Cherokee Nation uses the Dawes roll of 1907. However, if you were not a resident regardless to circumstances you can not seek enrollment with the Cherokee Nation regardless to your DIB.

The EBCI's has closed there enrollment except for infants. EBCI's use the Baker rolls for 1924.

Both tribes turn away Cherokees from enrollment.

I am promoting enrollment for all blood relatives and all Cherokee with the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama.

Dradfullwater, Cherokee, on the Internet, said only the Indian will do away with the Indian. After three generations of marrying the overseas people there will be no more Indians.

I think this is a major reason those who are enrolled with federal and state recognized tribes refuse to have there DNA tested.

I get a great deal of pressure from tribal members and other tribes on my position for science and research in genetics.

How many in the Mexico DNA project know there tribe? Know the tribal language? Speak any of the tribal language? Know the clans in there tribe? Know anything about there tribal culture? Have you been to a sweat lodge? A vision quest? A Sundance?

What are the number of North American Indians by tribes in the gene pool for only North American Indians?

Same question for Central and South America for specific Indian tribes in the gene pool?

Vadim:

Thank you for your response.

I am an enrolled Cherokee Indian with the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama. I am list as 2/4 DIB Cherokee.

Dr. Eske Willerslev has done DNA autosomal research with the Mal'ta male child from a Siberia dated 24,000, MA-1, the Anzick-1, male child in Montana, USA, dated 17,000 and I and others, total
11, with the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama have
provided saliva DNA samples to be compared with known gene pools and the Mal'ta child and the Anzick child.

To my knowledge there are no know DNA samples from Alabama from official government recognized tribes in Alabama for 2014.

r. Eske Willerslev has acquired samples taken from a few, about 11 members of the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama in 2014 who have provided a saliva DNA sample for autosomal.

I do not know the DNA pool size Dr. Willerslev has of current North American Indians and the specific tribes. Especially those tribes in Alabama, Georgia etc. southeast USA that are current tribal populations, 2014.

>Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)??

Yes in addition to East Asian.

>East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian?

The center of this expansion is around Japan and Korea. Since Amerinds are about 20K years removed from NE Asia, and the Na Dene are about 8K years, there should be enough of a difference to be able to separate NA
from
East Asian DNA. Gedmatch is much better at doing this. We all seem to be showing East Asian as one of our genetic populations.

>Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate - my own question is does anyone show this on gedmatch? The only connections I know of is are the Portuguese colonizers whos descendants marry among themselves or the Roma.

>African - 3% - Niger,
Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) This would likely be from the slave trade and those of us with full ancestry from Mexico show about 2 or 3 percent on average.

Family Tree DNA released their new Ethnic origins classification today
and it's a bit more comprehensive, although I'm far from an authority on
DNA, I would say that I'm a novice. These are my ethnic classifications. European - 59% North Mediterranean Basin, the map shows primarily northern Spain, most likely Basque and south central Italy. New
World - shows 23% Bering Expansion, that would be down the Bering
strait and along the western coast of the Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)?? East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian? Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) East Afroasiatic 2% North African Coastlands 1 %

Alicia

Teddi Montes

Regarding the two elders that I tested recently in northern Mexico.....the languages in the home are Pai Pai or Kumayaay and Spanish, The Cucapah woman I met

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Regarding the two elders that I tested recently in northern Mexico.....the languages in the home are Pai Pai or Kumayaay and Spanish, The Cucapah woman I met who is married to a Kiliwa elder has a daughter who speaks Pai Pai, Kumayaay, some Kiliwa, Spanish and is learning English. Geez, and I can only speak 2 languages!

I do not think sweat lodges or Sundances have been in their part of the world. The one Pai Pai elder was quite proud that he had been invited and gone to an international conference for indigenous peoples held in Manhatten, NY, and representatives from North, Central and South America were in attendance. There is no tribal registration or government aid and for many of these folks, they have had to fight for any piece of identity. It is now that things are happening-slowly but surely. They are a proud people and fighting to keep the culture in their children without any government help of any kind. The DNA studies I have started has many people excited.

Tribal members from both sides of the border exchange visits and things are in the works for more cultural happenings.

ALL of the genealogy I do is for the children as they are the future.

Teddi Montes

The Caifornio DNA Project

How many in the Mexico DNA project know there tribe? Know the tribal language? Speak any of the tribal language? Know the clans in there tribe? Know anything about there tribal culture? Have you been to a sweat lodge? A vision quest? A Sundance?

Interesting......GedMatch lists him as less than 2% NA, and yet he's 2/4 DIB Cherokee.

Randal Soza

J

Teddi Montes

Gary-The initial Y-12 results came back tonight for the two Baja California Native Americans I tested in my project in March.....They are both Q-M3...one is

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Gary-The initial Y-12 results came back tonight for the two Baja
California Native Americans I tested in my project in March.....They
are both Q-M3...one is Pai Pai and the other Kumiai.

As soon as their mtdna and other Y results get done, I will see that
you get the trees I put together and other info-the trees will take a
lot of research which I will do this summer as I have a big
presentation to do in NorCal at a conferece and that is keeping me
busy too.

The surnames in the trees are not typical Californio names except for
one or so. There are unusual Spanish surnames. This is really
interesting and I am glad I thought out of the box when I came upon
these guys!

Gary-The initial Y-12 results came back tonight for the two Baja California Native Americans I tested in my project in March.....They are both Q-M3...one is Pai Pai and the other Kumiai.

As soon as their mtdna and other Y results get done, I will see that you get the trees I put together and other info-the trees will take a lot of research which I will do this summer as I have a big presentation to do in NorCal at a conferece and that is keeping me busy too.

The surnames in the trees are not typical Californio names except for one or so. There are unusual Spanish surnames. This is really interesting and I am glad I thought out of the box when I came upon these guys!

Gary-The initial Y-12 results came back tonight for the two Baja California Native Americans I tested in my project in March.....They
are both Q-M3...one is Pai Pai and the other Kumiai.

As soon as their mtdna and other Y results get done, I will see that you get the trees I put together and other info-the trees will take a lot of research which I will do this summer as I have a big
presentation to do in NorCal at a conferece and that is keeping me busy too.

The surnames in the trees are not typical Californio names except for one or so. There are unusual Spanish surnames. This is really
interesting and I am glad I thought out of the box when I came upon these guys!

We are so looking forward to your presentation in August. If anyone is interested, here's a copy of the program and Teddi's Introduction. If interested in attending, you can contact me for more detailed information.

Gary-The initial Y-12 results came back tonight for the two Baja
California Native Americans I tested in my project in March.....They
are both Q-M3...one is Pai Pai and the other Kumiai.

As soon as their mtdna and other Y results get done, I will see that
you get the trees I put together and other info-the trees will take a
lot of research which I will do this summer as I have a big
presentation to do in NorCal at a conferece and that is keeping me
busy too.

The surnames in the trees are not typical Californio names except for
one or so. There are unusual Spanish surnames. This is really
interesting and I am glad I thought out of the box when I came upon
these guys!

NOW as of yesterday, a whole 'nuther bunch of stuff...so what do we make of this???

New is:

New World 47%

Bering Expansion 47%

European 27%

Euro northlands 25%

Euro coastal islands 2%

East Asian 19%

Asian Northeast 19%

Central/south Asian 4%

Eurasian heartland 4%

Middle Eastern 3%

North African Coastlands 3%

This man's family has been in this same village for over 6 generations and this is a KNOWN Pai Pai community. His 3 generation tree has a surname connection to Spanish/Mexican ranchos of the 1800s in San Diego county.

Any thought on this?? The more I learn the less I know.

Teddi Montes

On May 8, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Randal Soza wrote:

Interesting......GedMatch lists him as less than 2% NA, and yet he's 2/4 DIB Cherokee.

What are the number of North American Indians by tribes in the gene pool for only North American Indians?

Same question for Central and South America for specific Indian tribes in the gene pool?

Vadim:

Thank you for your response.

I am an enrolled Cherokee Indian with the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama. I am list as 2/4 DIB Cherokee.

Dr. Eske Willerslev has done DNA autosomal research with the Mal'ta male child from a Siberia dated 24,000, MA-1, the Anzick-1, male child in Montana, USA, dated 17,000 and I and others, total 11, with the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama have provided saliva DNA samples to be compared with known gene pools and the Mal'ta child and the Anzick child.

To my knowledge there are no know DNA samples from Alabama from official government recognized tribes in Alabama for 2014.

r. Eske Willerslev has acquired samples taken from a few, about 11 members of the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama in 2014 who have provided a saliva DNA sample for autosomal.

I do not know the DNA pool size Dr. Willerslev has of current North American Indians and the specific tribes. Especially those tribes in Alabama, Georgia etc. southeast USA that are current tribal populations, 2014.

>Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)??

Yes in addition to East Asian.

>East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian?

The center of this expansion is around Japan and Korea. Since Amerinds are about 20K years
removed from NE Asia, and the Na Dene are about 8K years, there should be enough of a difference to be able to separate NA from East Asian DNA. Gedmatch is much better at doing this. We all seem to be showing East Asian as one of our genetic populations.

>Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate - my own question is does anyone show this on gedmatch? The only connections I know of is are the Portuguese colonizers whos descendants marry among themselves or the
Roma.

>African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) This would likely be from the slave trade and those of us with full ancestry from Mexico show about 2 or 3 percent on average.

Family Tree DNA released their new Ethnic origins classification today and it's a
bit more comprehensive, although I'm far from an authority on DNA, I would say that I'm a novice. These are my ethnic classifications. European - 59% North Mediterranean Basin, the map shows primarily northern Spain, most likely Basque and south central Italy. New World - shows 23% Bering Expansion, that would be down the Bering strait and along the western coast of the Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)?? East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian? Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) East Afroasiatic 2% North African Coastlands 1 %

Alicia

Teddi Montes

Gary-I have been out of town...I will answer your question sometime today. Surprisngly, one in my family s kits is the 2nd name on page 1 of his FF results

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Gary-I have been out of town...I will answer your question sometime today. Surprisngly, one in my family's kits is the 2nd name on page 1 of his FF results but w only 77 cm. I suspect that the connection is the Baja California Californio connection and old....

Both he and the 2nd NA testee are Q-M3 for Y...I think FTDNA is doing a snp test. Mtdna should be done next week for both.

Teddi

PS 1st name at the top is a person who is a sperm donor child, conceived at a clinic in Washington and bprn in Australia so he knows nothing at all!!...shown as 2nd-4th cousin.

NOW as of yesterday, a whole 'nuther bunch of stuff...so what do we make of this???

New is:

New World 47%

Bering Expansion 47%

European 27%

Euro northlands 25%

Euro coastal islands 2%

East Asian 19%

Asian Northeast 19%

Central/south Asian 4%

Eurasian heartland 4%

Middle Eastern 3%

North African Coastlands 3%

This man's family has been in this same village for over 6 generations and this is a KNOWN Pai Pai community. His 3 generation tree has a surname connection to Spanish/Mexican ranchos of the 1800s in San Diego county.

Any thought on this?? The more I learn the less I know.

Teddi Montes

On May 8, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Randal Soza wrote:

Interesting......GedMatch lists him as less than 2% NA, and yet he's 2/4 DIB Cherokee.

What are the number of North American Indians by tribes in the gene pool for only North American Indians?

Same question for Central and South America for specific Indian tribes in the gene pool?

Vadim:

Thank you for your response.

I am an enrolled Cherokee Indian with the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama. I am list as 2/4 DIB Cherokee.

Dr. Eske Willerslev has done DNA autosomal research with the Mal'ta male child from a Siberia dated 24,000, MA-1, the Anzick-1, male child in Montana, USA, dated 17,000 and I and others, total 11, with the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama have provided saliva DNA samples to be compared with known gene pools and the Mal'ta child and the Anzick child.

To my knowledge there are no know DNA samples from Alabama from official government recognized tribes in Alabama for 2014.

r. Eske Willerslev has acquired samples taken from a few, about 11 members of the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama in 2014 who have provided a saliva DNA sample for autosomal.

I do not know the DNA pool size Dr. Willerslev has of current North American Indians and the specific tribes. Especially those tribes in Alabama, Georgia etc. southeast USA that are current tribal populations, 2014.

>Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)??

Yes in addition to East Asian.

>East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian?

The center of this expansion is around Japan and Korea. Since Amerinds are about 20K years removed from NE Asia, and the Na Dene are about 8K years, there should be enough of a difference to be able to separate NA from East Asian DNA. Gedmatch is much better at doing this. We all seem to be showing East Asian as one of our genetic populations.

>Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate - my own question is does anyone show this on gedmatch? The only connections I know of is are the Portuguese colonizers whos descendants marry among themselves or the Roma.

>African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) This would likely be from the slave trade and those of us with full ancestry from Mexico show about 2 or 3 percent on average.

Family Tree DNA released their new Ethnic origins classification today and it's a bit more comprehensive, although I'm far from an authority on DNA, I would say that I'm a novice. These are my ethnic classifications. European - 59% North Mediterranean Basin, the map shows primarily northern Spain, most likely Basque and south central Italy. New World - shows 23% Bering Expansion, that would be down the Bering strait and along the western coast of the Americas down to Colombia. (This would be my native American heritage)?? East Asian, Northeast - 7% - Most likely Russian, Mongolian? Central/South Asian - 5% - Indian Tectonic Plate African - 3% - Niger, Congo Genesis 2% (this would be my out of Africa lineage?) East Afroasiatic 2% North African Coastlands 1 %

Alicia

cburquez@pacbell.net

Hello All, In response to this post: How many in the Mexico DNA project know there tribe? Know the tribal language? Speak any of the tribal language? Know the

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Hello All,

In response to this post:

How many in the Mexico DNA project know there tribe? Know the tribal language? Speak any of the tribal language? Know the clans in there tribe? Know anything about there tribal culture? Have you been to a sweat lodge? A vision quest? A Sundance?

First my yDNA is Q-M3 or Q1a3a1 and mtDNA is B2g1, I've never been able to match with anyone of these. However I have match with a number of people on Family Finder and Gedmatch. My mothers family is from Sonora Mexico, my father was also born in Sonora in the border town of Nogales. He has family from Arizona and New Mexico.

Our Native American ancestry passed down verbally is:

Father - Apache and possibly Pueblo.

Mother - Yaqui and possibly Tohono Oodom (Papago).

I've never been to a Sweat Lodge, Vision Quest or Sundance, however if I could I would attend. I attend various Powwows and special NA events and an annual Sunrise Ceremony on Alcatraz.

Here is some results from one of the Gedmatch tools I ran, seems interesting. Still trying to figure it all out. Anyone have any ideas, or other good tools to use?

Thanks Chris,

MDLP World Oracle results:

Kit F26203

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent

1 South_and_West_European 28.49

2 Mesoamerican 23.7

3 Arctic_Amerind 17.74

4 North_and_East_European 14.12

5 Middle_East 7.14

6 Caucaus_Parsia 4.01

7 Sub_Saharian 3.2

8 Indian 0.89

9 Paleo_African 0.52

10 East_Asian 0.07

11 North_Asian 0.06

12 Melanesian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance

1 Mexican 3.28

2 Miwok 5.51

3 Serrano 11.45

4 Tsimsian 15.22

5 Cochimi 15.32

6 Haida 24.42

7 Costanoan 26.96

8 Kumiai 27.29

9 Puerto-Rican 27.86

10 Colombian 32.09

11 Colville 32.59

12 Aleut 33.76

13 Cucupa 34.94

14 Ashkenazim 36.32

15 Apache 37.88

16 Ashkenazim_V 38.16

17 Tlingit 38.93

18 Romania 38.97

19 Bulgarian 39.12

20 Gagauz 39.2

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance

1 83.7% Mexican + 16.3% Tsimsian @ 1.43

2 79.4% Serrano + 20.6% Spaniard @ 1.96

3 79.2% Serrano + 20.8% Iberian @ 2.1

4 81.8% Serrano + 18.2% Basque @ 2.13

5 93.2% Mexican + 6.8% Aleut @ 2.15

6 78.8% Serrano + 21.2% Portugese @ 2.44

7 69.5% Mexican + 30.5% Miwok @ 2.47

8 53.7% Portugese + 46.3% Luiseno @ 2.49

9 92% Mexican + 8% Haida @ 2.52

10 96.2% Mexican + 3.8% Komi @ 2.61

11 96.7% Mexican + 3.3% Vepsa @ 2.62

12 96.7% Mexican + 3.3% Karelian @ 2.63

13 96.8% Mexican + 3.2% Finnish-North @ 2.63

14 96.4% Mexican + 3.6% Inuit-West @ 2.64

15 96.5% Mexican + 3.5% Inkeri @ 2.64

16 96.4% Mexican + 3.6% Udmurd @ 2.65

17 96.2% Mexican + 3.8% Mordovian @ 2.65

18 96.7% Mexican + 3.3% Finnish-South @ 2.65

19 96.6% Mexican + 3.4% Estonian @ 2.66

20 97.2% Mexican + 2.8% Saami @ 2.66

JOEL SR

Halo Chris: We match on some areas, West Greenlander, Anzick-1, MA-1, Mayan, Pima, Karitiana. I have a cousin Richard Amador Flores who is a participant with

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Halo Chris:

We match on some areas,

West Greenlander, Anzick-1, MA-1, Mayan, Pima, Karitiana.

I
have a cousin Richard Amador Flores who is a participant with FTDNA.

We have a clan in California. see the email address.

Send him an email to attend a clan
meeting.

Ask for an application for enrollment from Dr. Vann. I know we have tribal members from other tribes enrolled.

Check our website. Look up the Echota Warrior site. I am in it.

Send me an email if you have any problems communicating with Dr. Vann.

If you want you can send a letter to our tribal office, see address on website, to request an application to enroll.

How many in the Mexico DNA project know there tribe? Know the tribal language? Speak any of the tribal language? Know the clans in there tribe? Know anything about there tribal culture? Have you been to a sweat lodge? A vision quest? A Sundance?

First my yDNA is Q-M3 or Q1a3a1 and mtDNA is B2g1, I've never been able to match with anyone of these. However I have match with a number of people on Family Finder and Gedmatch. My mothers family is from Sonora Mexico, my father was also born in Sonora in the border town of Nogales. He has family from Arizona and New Mexico.

Our Native American ancestry passed down
verbally is:

Father - Apache and possibly Pueblo.

Mother - Yaqui and possibly Tohono Oodom (Papago).

I've never been to a Sweat Lodge, Vision Quest or Sundance, however if I could I would attend. I attend various Powwows and special NA events and an annual Sunrise Ceremony on Alcatraz.

Here is some results from one of the Gedmatch tools I ran, seems interesting. Still trying to figure it all out. Anyone have any ideas, or other good tools to use?

How many in the Mexico DNA project know there tribe? Know the tribal language? Speak any of the tribal language? Know the clans in there tribe? Know anything about there tribal culture? Have you been to a sweat lodge? A vision quest? A Sundance?

First my yDNA is Q-M3 or Q1a3a1 and mtDNA is B2g1, I've never been able to match with anyone of these. However I have match with a number of people on Family Finder and Gedmatch. My mothers family is from Sonora Mexico, my father was also born in Sonora in the border town of Nogales. He has family from Arizona and New Mexico.

Our Native American ancestry passed down
verbally is:

Father - Apache and possibly Pueblo.

Mother - Yaqui and possibly Tohono Oodom (Papago).

I've never been to a Sweat Lodge, Vision Quest or Sundance, however if I could I would attend. I attend various Powwows and special NA events and an annual Sunrise Ceremony on Alcatraz.

Here is some results from one of the Gedmatch tools I ran, seems interesting. Still trying to figure it all out. Anyone have any ideas, or other good tools to use?

Thanks Chris,

MDLP World Oracle results:

Kit F26203

Admix Results
(sorted):

# Population Percent

1 South_and_West_European 28.49

2 Mesoamerican 23.7

3 Arctic_Amerind 17.74

4 North_and_East_European 14.12

5 Middle_East 7.14

6 Caucaus_Parsia 4.01

7 Sub_Saharian 3.2

8 Indian 0.89

9 Paleo_African 0.52

10 East_Asian 0.07

11 North_Asian 0.06

12 Melanesian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance

1 Mexican 3.28

2 Miwok 5.51

3 Serrano 11.45

4 Tsimsian 15.22

5 Cochimi 15.32

6 Haida 24.42

7 Costanoan 26.96

8 Kumiai 27.29

9 Puerto-Rican 27.86

10 Colombian 32.09

11 Colville 32.59

12 Aleut 33.76

13 Cucupa 34.94

14 Ashkenazim 36.32

15 Apache 37.88

16
Ashkenazim_V 38.16

17 Tlingit 38.93

18 Romania 38.97

19 Bulgarian 39.12

20 Gagauz 39.2

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance

1 83.7% Mexican + 16.3% Tsimsian @ 1.43

2 79.4% Serrano + 20.6% Spaniard @ 1.96

3 79.2% Serrano + 20.8% Iberian @ 2.1

4 81.8% Serrano + 18.2% Basque @ 2.13

5 93.2% Mexican + 6.8% Aleut @ 2.15

6 78.8% Serrano + 21.2% Portugese @ 2.44

7 69.5% Mexican + 30.5% Miwok @ 2.47

8 53.7% Portugese + 46.3% Luiseno @ 2.49

9 92% Mexican + 8% Haida @ 2.52

10
96.2% Mexican + 3.8% Komi @ 2.61

11 96.7% Mexican + 3.3% Vepsa @ 2.62

12 96.7% Mexican + 3.3% Karelian @ 2.63

13 96.8% Mexican + 3.2% Finnish-North @ 2.63

14 96.4% Mexican + 3.6% Inuit-West @ 2.64

15 96.5% Mexican + 3.5% Inkeri @ 2.64

16 96.4% Mexican + 3.6% Udmurd @ 2.65

17 96.2% Mexican + 3.8% Mordovian @ 2.65

18 96.7% Mexican + 3.3% Finnish-South @ 2.65

19 96.6% Mexican + 3.4% Estonian @ 2.66

20 97.2% Mexican + 2.8% Saami @ 2.66

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