Vasquez is better than Ramirez but what was intended, Vasquez and Koppen, is certainly better than any other combination available in 2013.

But hey, you're the same guy that said Ramirez was the starting center earlier, despite the fact that Dan Koppen was the starting center going into training camp, so who am I to argue with your pretzel logic?

Vasquez is better than Ramirez but what was intended, Vasquez and Koppen, is certainly better than any other combination available in 2013.

But hey, you're the same guy that said Ramirez was the starting center earlier, despite the fact that Dan Koppen was the starting center going into training camp, so who am I to argue with your pretzel logic?

Vasquez and Walton is what was intended.

What I said was that Ramirez had taken the center snaps with the first team throughout all the practices, which you may notice, is true.