#[[User:petitdragon|petitdragon]]The only reason why I did not buy an openmoko phone is that it has no camera ...

#[[User:petitdragon|petitdragon]]The only reason why I did not buy an openmoko phone is that it has no camera ...

#[[User:Polk1986|Polk1986]] I am thinking about buying an OpenMoko, and would love to have a barcode scanning application like the G1 or iPhone. Unfortunately, there isn't a phone right now. I would be willing to help with mechanical design, but am unsure I have the appropriate coding ability to interface the camera with the rest of the phone.

#[[User:Polk1986|Polk1986]] I am thinking about buying an OpenMoko, and would love to have a barcode scanning application like the G1 or iPhone. Unfortunately, there isn't a phone right now. I would be willing to help with mechanical design, but am unsure I have the appropriate coding ability to interface the camera with the rest of the phone.

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#[[User:smoe|Steffen]] Cannot sell the phone to myself (or to family) without the camera, just don't skip any of its other features becaues of a camera being added, which are also important. If the camera is plugable, then consider to make that plug future-proof, i.e. allow for higher resolutions and various adapters over time.

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Concept

A flexible phone is desired that meets most users needs. Camera module should be easily installed or removed (and left in the car) for people that are unable to take cameras into work.

cs mount camera

allows use of any standard cs mount (or other lenses with adapters) for superior optical focus & zoom

cs mount is used because it can be converted to use c mount lenses with a 5mm extension tube

surface of focal plane array is 12.52mm below top of surface (requiring less room than c mount or many other standard lenses)

module faces can be exchanged to allow operation in either camera or video-conferencing mode

lens can easily be unscrewed, converting the image sensor into a useless memory, and replaced with a c/cs mount cap. -- This could disable camera & allow people to bring the phone into work (or you could just remove the entire module)

A strong LED could be used as a close range flash. An ambient light sensor could automatically control this function. This could also be used as a torch.

solid -- A camera is the only thing I am waiting on to buy this phone. [UPDATE]I posted this comment several months ago. My first generation razr is gimping along. The exterior screen is completely busted and the lcd looks like a purple blob. I am holding off on buying a new phone until I can get a smart phone that replaces all the personal gadgets I have to carry. I need a phone that is a personal music player,a camera and a phone. Having a phone that is deficient in any of the above functions makes it less than smart. I am running out of time. My phone is in worst shape every day. Please just tell us there is a camera in the works, Otherwise I will be buying a non-linux smart phone.

gumpish -- A camera is the only thing I am waiting on to buy this phone. Every day I pray for the sanity of the development team and that they will realize that any phone that costs over $100USD and doesn't have a camera is worse than useless!

Yogiz -- I'll but GTA02 even without the camera but a good 2mpx+ camera would in my opinion add a lot. I'd like to use it for example to photograph A4 documents in high contrast and feed the pictures to tesseract OCR. It would also be good for use in tandem with gps to add pictures to openstreetmap. Of course sometimes you just need to take a quick picture.

DeweyThis is a great idea! If designed properly, this could be a higher quality camera than most integrated phone cameras. If you leave it in the car, then you will have a camera that you can use in case of an accident. Being detachable, it would be perfect for when camera phones are not allowed when visiting companies on business.

Theocrite Sounds good. It might be really easier to have pictures associated with contacts on the phone (without using a computer every time). Also it's a good thing to have a camera with you when you didn't expect to have something that needs a camera. I'm worried about the place it might take though. On the picture shown above it seems big. Even if it's removable, it might be something harder to carry.

Tehsagemaster Waiting for the camera then I'll be buying one. 2MP is old in my opinion, up to 3MP min or prefer 5MP. Detachable be nice, but not required. Add focus lenses be nice to, but atleast a decent zoom and a bright led flash. Something to cover the lense if possible

vandykee Is anyone taking the lead on this? Are there any resources around for something like this that we can put together? Have much to add to this discussion. will be back often.

jordan would buy a bunch of these in a heartbeat if they had cameras. very interested in this device (or the freerunner) for wearable computing device research, but need a camera, or at least good webcam support.

remd Same as Solid. I just trashed my w960 phone, and I would buy an openmoko phone right now if it had a camera. So Im sticking to my old w800 for now, and wait a little, but I'll have to get a new phone soon. The main things I use my phone for is calling, music listening(mp3+radio), wifi and email/web browsing, calendar, and the camera. And I use the "on flight" mode often, I can browse my mails locally, look at my pictures, see or edit pdf, xls, doc files and mainly listen to music on the plane.

nebulo If Openmoko FreeRunner would include a camera with at least 2MP I would buy one instantly and throw away my SE P1i. I love the idea behind Openmoko and except for the missing camera and 3G (which is not a critical issue) the OM FreeRunner seems to be my dream-mobilephone.

GoJianCamera is really important for a phone actually--i use it so often.

petitdragonThe only reason why I did not buy an openmoko phone is that it has no camera ...

Polk1986 I am thinking about buying an OpenMoko, and would love to have a barcode scanning application like the G1 or iPhone. Unfortunately, there isn't a phone right now. I would be willing to help with mechanical design, but am unsure I have the appropriate coding ability to interface the camera with the rest of the phone.

Steffen Cannot sell the phone to myself (or to family) without the camera, just don't skip any of its other features becaues of a camera being added, which are also important. If the camera is plugable, then consider to make that plug future-proof, i.e. allow for higher resolutions and various adapters over time.

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Concept

A flexible phone is desired that meets most users needs. Camera module should be easily installed or removed (and left in the car) for people that are unable to take cameras into work.

cs mount camera

allows use of any standard cs mount (or other lenses with adapters) for superior optical focus & zoom

cs mount is used because it can be converted to use c mount lenses with a 5mm extension tube

surface of focal plane array is 12.52mm below top of surface (requiring less room than c mount or many other standard lenses)

module faces can be exchanged to allow operation in either camera or video-conferencing mode

lens can easily be unscrewed, converting the image sensor into a useless memory, and replaced with a c/cs mount cap. -- This could disable camera & allow people to bring the phone into work (or you could just remove the entire module)

A strong LED could be used as a close range flash. An ambient light sensor could automatically control this function. This could also be used as a torch.

solid -- A camera is the only thing I am waiting on to buy this phone. [UPDATE]I posted this comment several months ago. My first generation razr is gimping along. The exterior screen is completely busted and the lcd looks like a purple blob. I am holding off on buying a new phone until I can get a smart phone that replaces all the personal gadgets I have to carry. I need a phone that is a personal music player,a camera and a phone. Having a phone that is deficient in any of the above functions makes it less than smart. I am running out of time. My phone is in worst shape every day. Please just tell us there is a camera in the works, Otherwise I will be buying a non-linux smart phone.

gumpish -- A camera is the only thing I am waiting on to buy this phone. Every day I pray for the sanity of the development team and that they will realize that any phone that costs over $100USD and doesn't have a camera is worse than useless!

Yogiz -- I'll but GTA02 even without the camera but a good 2mpx+ camera would in my opinion add a lot. I'd like to use it for example to photograph A4 documents in high contrast and feed the pictures to tesseract OCR. It would also be good for use in tandem with gps to add pictures to openstreetmap. Of course sometimes you just need to take a quick picture.

DeweyThis is a great idea! If designed properly, this could be a higher quality camera than most integrated phone cameras. If you leave it in the car, then you will have a camera that you can use in case of an accident. Being detachable, it would be perfect for when camera phones are not allowed when visiting companies on business.

Theocrite Sounds good. It might be really easier to have pictures associated with contacts on the phone (without using a computer every time). Also it's a good thing to have a camera with you when you didn't expect to have something that needs a camera. I'm worried about the place it might take though. On the picture shown above it seems big. Even if it's removable, it might be something harder to carry.

Tehsagemaster Waiting for the camera then I'll be buying one. 2MP is old in my opinion, up to 3MP min or prefer 5MP. Detachable be nice, but not required. Add focus lenses be nice to, but atleast a decent zoom and a bright led flash. Something to cover the lense if possible

vandykee Is anyone taking the lead on this? Are there any resources around for something like this that we can put together? Have much to add to this discussion. will be back often.

jordan would buy a bunch of these in a heartbeat if they had cameras. very interested in this device (or the freerunner) for wearable computing device research, but need a camera, or at least good webcam support.

remd Same as Solid. I just trashed my w960 phone, and I would buy an openmoko phone right now if it had a camera. So Im sticking to my old w800 for now, and wait a little, but I'll have to get a new phone soon. The main things I use my phone for is calling, music listening(mp3+radio), wifi and email/web browsing, calendar, and the camera. And I use the "on flight" mode often, I can browse my mails locally, look at my pictures, see or edit pdf, xls, doc files and mainly listen to music on the plane.

nebulo If Openmoko FreeRunner would include a camera with at least 2MP I would buy one instantly and throw away my SE P1i. I love the idea behind Openmoko and except for the missing camera and 3G (which is not a critical issue) the OM FreeRunner seems to be my dream-mobilephone.

GoJianCamera is really important for a phone actually--i use it so often.

petitdragonThe only reason why I did not buy an openmoko phone is that it has no camera ...

Polk1986 I am thinking about buying an OpenMoko, and would love to have a barcode scanning application like the G1 or iPhone. Unfortunately, there isn't a phone right now. I would be willing to help with mechanical design, but am unsure I have the appropriate coding ability to interface the camera with the rest of the phone.