RE: What is your urine PH?

Interesting aticle. I don't agree with most of it - in particual that big pharma does not suppress natural treatments.

Goverment suppression on cannabis for example is clear as it reamains a schedule 1 drug which means it has no medical benifit while the government itself has a medical patent out on marijiuana. My feeling is the only reason it hasn't been removed from schedule 1 is due to the heavy monetary influence big pharma has on our government officials

But when it comes to PH the article actually emphasizes the reason I posted the PH question. There is information that says low urine PH is not associated with the cancer process and there is information that says it is as I indicated in the orginal post.

So if there are other cancer patients out there monitoring their PH what are they seeing? It might shed some light on whether or not low urine PH is a hallmark of cancer patients or not.

RE: What is your urine PH?

The problem with urine PH is that it's inespecific, meaning that it can be low without cancer and can be high with cancer.

That said, in full disclosure mine is 5.0, and I do have cancer (stage IV - metastases). But it's been at this exact value for years, even with my tumor marker going down... so at least in my case, it doesn't seem to be related to tumor activity.

RE: What is your urine PH?

I have actually asked some of my non cancer friends to consider checking their AM wakeing urine PH but without much success to see where normal people urine PH might be because I agree it is not specific and can be high or low having nothing to do with the cancer.

I wrote to a place called "The Cancer Alternative Foundation" about PH monitoring and they responded with the following email - sorry a long post now - so now I'm trying to measure my saliva AM PH.

It is our research conclusion thatmonitoring pH via urine is not a good measurement technique.

The body excretes acid through the urine based on what you are eating and your various biological processes.

That is normal, and most of the time theurine is quite acidic, particularly in the morningbecause you have not been drinking a lot of liquid during the night.

Oneeasy way to raise urine pH is to drink more water. The dilution effect will essentially create a less acidic result when you test.

However that is not going to address your condition in a satisfactory way to manage or regress your cancer status.

If you are using a highly sensitive pH paper perhaps from 5.5 in .1 increments to 8.5, the method is as follows:

1. Get upin the morning, urinate before eating or drinking,measure the saliva pH.

2. Measure the saliva pH by spitting once in the sink, then gathering up more saliva and spitting on the pH paper, being careful not to put your lips directly on it.

3. Wait for the pH paper to develop, at least 15 seconds, then take your reading.

We find that the best indicator if you are successfully using pH to monitor your cancer is to thentest again after your morning meal.

If thepH goes down, the cancer is actively feeding. If itgoes up, the cancer is not feedingto any measurable extent.

The reasonfor this is thatas cancer feeds, it excretes a highly acidic waste productfrom its anaerobic digestion of glucose.

If you have successfully managed to control both your body’s glucose production and thus the cancer metabolism, you will not see a decrease in your pH reading but will likely see an increase.

We have had clients that pushed their pH up from 6.5 to 7.8 by just eating a lot of “super greens” salad mixes and kale with lemon/olive oil dressings.

The dressing is important as things likecanola oil and balsamic vinegar can push your pH down quite a bit -very acid forming.

One particular client that comes to mind who was kind of a sugar and carbohydrate fiend - very bad for her on many levels. We requested that she ban grains, baked goods, all forms of sugar including excess fruit consumption, and rather eat mostly dark - dark and bitter is best - leafy greens, root vegetables like carrots, beets and dark orange yams, nuts and seeds, seaweed in the diet and a small amount of fish and/or meat - meaning not more than 3 oz. of flesh proteins or not more than 4 oz. of fish per serving, not more than 2 times a day and hopefully some days, substituting beans, lentils or other non-flesh proteins for at least 1 and preferably 2 of the main meals in the day.

We also suggested drinking 1 to 3 lemons juiced, diluted with water (bymaking a jar of it in the AM and drinking it all day),

use lemon juice in salad dressing not vinegar,add a tablespoon of apple cider vinegarto one or two glasses of lemonade every day, and use ONLY 100% pure organic stevia extract or powder to sweeten.

The last component is toeat plenty of fat- as much as50% of your calories from fat, which for a grown man might be8 to 10 tablespoons of the right fats - coconut oil, clarified butter(take out the white stuff on the top that forms when you heat it),olive oil (eat only cold as a dressing),avocado oil and avocados. Then of coursenuts. Not peanuts and cashews, butalmonds, walnuts, macadamia nuts, hazel nuts,etc.

This style of diet - the alkaline diet - will most profoundly affect your intracellular pH, which is the important part of attempting this program.

As for using the alkaline mineral program we refer to in materials, for your type of cancer it may be extremely helpful, along with various immune enhancing products such as Essiac Tea, seaweed withiodine, Sage tea, Spriulina,Chlorella,Milk Thistle, astragalus,angelica - there are very many that can help you. See our list of vetted vendors here: http://www.thecanceralternative.org/resources

We recommend the companyessence-of-life.comif you wish to explore the alkaline mineral therapy for yourself. Here is a link to their information page - really quite well done.

Their products and support are the best in the industry, soif you decide to pursue pH therapy with minerals, they are really the only reputable vendor we have identified who can help you through the entire process.

RE: What is your urine PH?

I have to agree with much of what you say especially the "keep people sick industry" and the fact that "the rich people control our government and every treatment option we can get through conventional medicine". No sure about alkaline water effectiveness. I was drinking alkaline water for quite some time a few years back (moving into my 8th cancer journey year) but don't know if it worked.

My waking AM urine PH today was 5.7. Still low. Drinking lemon water tea, kombucha, daily smoothies with spinach or leafy greens like collards or kale, wheat grass juice, magnesium, etc to offset some of the acid foods I eat like yogurt, buttermilk, eggs etc. The western diet is so acidic. I do not eat wheat or grains as they are even more acidic than meat and dairy.

I use a Hanna PH meter with a cup which makes it easy to check urine PH several times a day. Staring to understand just how variable urine PH is. Maybe not the best PH indicator but I am starting to get familiar with it and feel confident the meter is providing accurate measurements.

Currently, just monitoring uPH and seeing what things lower or raise it.

RE: What is your urine PH?

I have read cancer patients have low PH due to the acidic burden tumors put on the body due to the constat ozzing of lactic acid into the tumor microenvironment which then gets into the blood.

In the book "Never Fear Cancer Again" by Raymond Francis he indicates the following about urine PH ranges:

Below 6.0 - dangerous range

6.0 to 6.5 - unhealthy range

6.5 to 7.5 - healthy range

Above 7.5 - dangerous range

In the book he indicates restoring your PH to normal is one of the most fundamental things a cancer patient can do to help prevent and reverse cancer.

Currently, my waking AM urine PH reading is very low. Yesterday 5.2, today 5.0. I am struggling to do things to try to move my PH into a normal range.

This post is to ask if there are other cancer patients who have been monitoring their urine PH, what their results have been and if they have been successful at taking action to restore it to normal.

Thanks, John

I used the pH method with my sister in 2013 for colon cancer and she healed, and mcontinuedmwith my mum arthritis getting urine pHtclose to 6 or 7, by either drinking a liquid oxygen with green veg powder to alkalise the blood.

Or go in addition on an alkaline diet.

Blood pH ive seen can also be tested its more accurate but urine is some indicator of acidity.