A MAN has been airlifted to hospital after suffering serious injuries in a crash with a suspected drink driver just outside Bolton town centre.

The accident, involving a Vauxhall Astra and a Peugeot, happened in Bridgeman Street, Bolton, at 7.55am this morning.

Firefighters freed the injured man - named locally as Rob Scott - and paramedics treated him at the scene before he was taken by air ambulance to Wythenshawe Hospital, which is a specialist trauma centre in Manchester.

Police said his pelvic injuries were serious and life threatening, though his condition has improved and a hospital spokesman described him as "stable and comfortable."

A Greater Manchester Police spokesman said: "A 25-year-old man who was driving the other vehicle suffered minor injuries and was taken to Royal Bolton Hospital for treatment.

"He underwent a breath test at the scene and failed it and has been arrested."

Bridgeman Street was closed between Fletcher Street and Thynne Street for four hours while police investigate the incident. The road is now fully open.

Mr Scott's manager, Jason Kenny, of Perrys Peugeot, Bolton, said: "Rob works as a service technician here and was on his way to work. He was a minute or so away from arriving.

"One of his colleagues went with him in the air ambulance. He is in his mid 20s and likes to keep fit so we're hoping he will recover and are thinking of him."

It is understood that Mr Scott's Peugeot was travelling along Bridgeman Street from Thynne Street in the direction of Fletcher Street when it crashed with the Astra travelling in the opposite direction.

A man at the scene, who asked not to be named, said: "I didn't see it happen, but, right afterwards, the driver of the Astra ran away from the scene and went into Sainsbury's to hide.

"He was Asian and a young-looking guy. I think he was arrested afterwards."

A spokesman for University Hospital of South Manchester, which runs Wythenshawe Hospital, said: "Mr Scott is stable and comfortable. He may need to have more treatment here, but he is conscious, breathing and doing well." The spokesmen did not say when it was likely he could return home. Call police on 101 with information.

Comments

Beware of Pakis in hired/uncles/brother
s/great grandmothers Vauxhall Astras driven very badly without a thought for other road users.Wolfie190

Beware of Pakis in hired/uncles/brother
s/great grandmothers Vauxhall Astras driven very badly without a thought for other road users.

Score: -1

chris25
10:58am Sat 1 Feb 14

ran away and hid in sainsburys ,cowarding little ****.hope mr scott makes a full recovery.and the coward gets the book thrown at him.

ran away and hid in sainsburys ,cowarding little ****.hope mr scott makes a full recovery.and the coward gets the book thrown at him.chris25

ran away and hid in sainsburys ,cowarding little ****.hope mr scott makes a full recovery.and the coward gets the book thrown at him.

Score: 123

Citizen Cane
11:12am Sat 1 Feb 14

This should be an imprisonable offence and could be one where the public write to the attorney general stating that the sentence given is too lenient. Aggravating circumstances are that he ran away, itself an offence at the scene of an accident where there is an injury. He should be named and shamed as well.

This should be an imprisonable offence and could be one where the public write to the attorney general stating that the sentence given is too lenient. Aggravating circumstances are that he ran away, itself an offence at the scene of an accident where there is an injury. He should be named and shamed as well.Citizen Cane

This should be an imprisonable offence and could be one where the public write to the attorney general stating that the sentence given is too lenient. Aggravating circumstances are that he ran away, itself an offence at the scene of an accident where there is an injury. He should be named and shamed as well.

Score: 79

Darren1951
12:01pm Sat 1 Feb 14

What's the betting that someone will try to blame it on "the road"?

What's the betting that someone will try to blame it on "the road"?Darren1951

What's the betting that someone will try to blame it on "the road"?

Score: 22

chris25
12:24pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Darren1951 wrote…

What's the betting that someone will try to blame it on "the road"?

you only have to look at the damage to the cars ,surely if you where travelling at the speed limit it would not cause that much damage must have been moving at some speed .

[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote:
What's the betting that someone will try to blame it on "the road"?[/p][/quote]you only have to look at the damage to the cars ,surely if you where travelling at the speed limit it would not cause that much damage must have been moving at some speed .chris25

Darren1951 wrote…

What's the betting that someone will try to blame it on "the road"?

you only have to look at the damage to the cars ,surely if you where travelling at the speed limit it would not cause that much damage must have been moving at some speed .

Score: 23

catsden
12:38pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Put him in prison and let him ROT

Put him in prison and let him ROTcatsden

Put him in prison and let him ROT

Score: 64

eatmytruth
12:42pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Im asian too. I dont care what this guy is. If he was drunk and driving he better get locked up for a long time. Whether or not the victim us injured shouldnt even matter.if the victim is better next week the offender should still face the time for his crime. Not for the consequences.

Im asian too. I dont care what this guy is. If he was drunk and driving he better get locked up for a long time. Whether or not the victim us injured shouldnt even matter.if the victim is better next week the offender should still face the time for his crime. Not for the consequences.eatmytruth

Im asian too. I dont care what this guy is. If he was drunk and driving he better get locked up for a long time. Whether or not the victim us injured shouldnt even matter.if the victim is better next week the offender should still face the time for his crime. Not for the consequences.

Score: 98

lv8151
1:18pm Sat 1 Feb 14

i'm not asian but i agree with the asian above .... i also cant wait for the police to get roadside drug testing kits so they can also take off the road the people that do not consume alcohol but are equally off their faces and unfit to drive on other substances

i'm not asian but i agree with the asian above .... i also cant wait for the police to get roadside drug testing kits so they can also take off the road the people that do not consume alcohol but are equally off their faces and unfit to drive on other substanceslv8151

i'm not asian but i agree with the asian above .... i also cant wait for the police to get roadside drug testing kits so they can also take off the road the people that do not consume alcohol but are equally off their faces and unfit to drive on other substances

Score: 64

jonezey1
2:00pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Please to say he is stable fully awake and talking

Please to say he is stable fully awake and talkingjonezey1

Please to say he is stable fully awake and talking

Score: 59

[deleted]
2:01pm Sat 1 Feb 14

[deleted]

I'm hoping the "INNOCENT" driver who was seriously injured. I only hope that he makes a full recovery but (AS THE ASIAN LAD SAID ABOVE (A WEEK- MAYBE... I KNOW THAT I REALLY BELIEVE IT'LL TAKE LONGER THAN A WEEK, PROB LONGER THAN MONTH'S). The fact is he'll be in hospital for a long, long while. I further hope this ASIAN LAD who was responsibe for this unfortunate mans injurys gets the full weight of the law thrown at him (A MASSIVE LIBRARY FULL). I really do but deep down this (42 CARET PLONKER, COWARD, WHO'S ONLY INJURY WAS A FEW SCRATCHS WILL NOT GET WHAT HE SHOULD GET). Fingers crossed FOR THE INNOCENT LAD THOUGH... Hope he recovers physically, doubt it physcologically though that will take forever..alecfranco

I'm hoping the "INNOCENT" driver who was seriously injured. I only hope that he makes a full recovery but (AS THE ASIAN LAD SAID ABOVE (A WEEK- MAYBE... I KNOW THAT I REALLY BELIEVE IT'LL TAKE LONGER THAN A WEEK, PROB LONGER THAN MONTH'S). The fact is he'll be in hospital for a long, long while. I further hope this ASIAN LAD who was responsibe for this unfortunate mans injurys gets the full weight of the law thrown at him (A MASSIVE LIBRARY FULL). I really do but deep down this (42 CARET PLONKER, COWARD, WHO'S ONLY INJURY WAS A FEW SCRATCHS WILL NOT GET WHAT HE SHOULD GET). Fingers crossed FOR THE INNOCENT LAD THOUGH... Hope he recovers physically, doubt it physcologically though that will take forever..

Score: 5

Greasy Chip Butty
3:05pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Does not matter who he is, what he is, he will pay for the consequences for breaking the law. Full stop.
Hope the young lad injured make a full recovery.

Does not matter who he is, what he is, he will pay for the consequences for breaking the law. Full stop.
Hope the young lad injured make a full recovery.Greasy Chip Butty

Does not matter who he is, what he is, he will pay for the consequences for breaking the law. Full stop.
Hope the young lad injured make a full recovery.

Score: 10

bigbob123
3:17pm Sat 1 Feb 14

I was In Bolton hospital this morning and was sat facing the drunk driver who was handcuffed and escorted by police.
He was being loud and abusive and in my eyes should not of been treated. he was very drunk.
I don't know where the Asian part came from because he was black. (just clearing up the whole Asian thing)
He was shouting that he was not guilty and was not driving, he claimed someone else was and he just took the blame for this person.

Guilty or otherwise he should get 12 month just for being abusive to members of the NHS who had a duty of care to attend to this moron

I was In Bolton hospital this morning and was sat facing the drunk driver who was handcuffed and escorted by police.
He was being loud and abusive and in my eyes should not of been treated. he was very drunk.
I don't know where the Asian part came from because he was black. (just clearing up the whole Asian thing)
He was shouting that he was not guilty and was not driving, he claimed someone else was and he just took the blame for this person.
Guilty or otherwise he should get 12 month just for being abusive to members of the NHS who had a duty of care to attend to this moronbigbob123

I was In Bolton hospital this morning and was sat facing the drunk driver who was handcuffed and escorted by police.
He was being loud and abusive and in my eyes should not of been treated. he was very drunk.
I don't know where the Asian part came from because he was black. (just clearing up the whole Asian thing)
He was shouting that he was not guilty and was not driving, he claimed someone else was and he just took the blame for this person.

Guilty or otherwise he should get 12 month just for being abusive to members of the NHS who had a duty of care to attend to this moron

Score: 76

albertmodley
3:30pm Sat 1 Feb 14

bigbob123 wrote…

I was In Bolton hospital this morning and was sat facing the drunk driver who was handcuffed and escorted by police.
He was being loud and abusive and in my eyes should not of been treated. he was very drunk.
I don't know where the Asian part came from because he was black. (just clearing up the whole Asian thing)
He was shouting that he was not guilty and was not driving, he claimed someone else was and he just took the blame for this person.

Guilty or otherwise he should get 12 month just for being abusive to members of the NHS who had a duty of care to attend to this moron

Todays papers report 1 car in 11 on road is uninsured.Anyone like to quote odds that this guy is one of them.Total diregard for law as with drink drive probably means he will disregard all other laws too.Only remedy to me with uninsured drivers is take car off them and crush it before their very eyes.

[quote][p][bold]bigbob123[/bold] wrote:
I was In Bolton hospital this morning and was sat facing the drunk driver who was handcuffed and escorted by police.
He was being loud and abusive and in my eyes should not of been treated. he was very drunk.
I don't know where the Asian part came from because he was black. (just clearing up the whole Asian thing)
He was shouting that he was not guilty and was not driving, he claimed someone else was and he just took the blame for this person.
Guilty or otherwise he should get 12 month just for being abusive to members of the NHS who had a duty of care to attend to this moron[/p][/quote]Todays papers report 1 car in 11 on road is uninsured.Anyone like to quote odds that this guy is one of them.Total diregard for law as with drink drive probably means he will disregard all other laws too.Only remedy to me with uninsured drivers is take car off them and crush it before their very eyes.albertmodley

bigbob123 wrote…

I was In Bolton hospital this morning and was sat facing the drunk driver who was handcuffed and escorted by police.
He was being loud and abusive and in my eyes should not of been treated. he was very drunk.
I don't know where the Asian part came from because he was black. (just clearing up the whole Asian thing)
He was shouting that he was not guilty and was not driving, he claimed someone else was and he just took the blame for this person.

Guilty or otherwise he should get 12 month just for being abusive to members of the NHS who had a duty of care to attend to this moron

Todays papers report 1 car in 11 on road is uninsured.Anyone like to quote odds that this guy is one of them.Total diregard for law as with drink drive probably means he will disregard all other laws too.Only remedy to me with uninsured drivers is take car off them and crush it before their very eyes.

Score: 44

Citizen Cane
3:38pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Regardless of race, I think that all would agree that ALL drink drivers are nailed-on scum. There is no safe drink driver.

From bigbob's description this particular specimen has the verbals that suggest that this is not his first crime.

If found guilty, be prepared for a pathetically short imprisonment.

Regardless of race, I think that all would agree that ALL drink drivers are nailed-on scum. There is no safe drink driver.
From bigbob's description this particular specimen has the verbals that suggest that this is not his first crime.
If found guilty, be prepared for a pathetically short imprisonment.Citizen Cane

Regardless of race, I think that all would agree that ALL drink drivers are nailed-on scum. There is no safe drink driver.

From bigbob's description this particular specimen has the verbals that suggest that this is not his first crime.

If found guilty, be prepared for a pathetically short imprisonment.

Score: 19

Rememberscarborough
3:46pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Whatever custodial punishment (if any) is given I'll bet the driving ban is minimal. We need to rid the roads of these kind of people and ten year driving bans for this kind of "accident" should be the norm.

Whatever custodial punishment (if any) is given I'll bet the driving ban is minimal. We need to rid the roads of these kind of people and ten year driving bans for this kind of "accident" should be the norm.Rememberscarborough

Whatever custodial punishment (if any) is given I'll bet the driving ban is minimal. We need to rid the roads of these kind of people and ten year driving bans for this kind of "accident" should be the norm.

Score: 32

Gill bolton
4:16pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Get well soon rob hope you make a full recovery and the other driver gets what he deserves.

Get well soon rob hope you make a full recovery and the other driver gets what he deserves.Gill bolton

Get well soon rob hope you make a full recovery and the other driver gets what he deserves.

Score: 38

robertsct6
4:54pm Sat 1 Feb 14

I am the victims father...There was 3 in the car and all left my son unable to move and injured what if the car had set on fire, it would be murder so as it stands its attempted murder and all should be banned for life driving and face 5 years imprison but with idiots like these they never learn.

I am the victims father...There was 3 in the car and all left my son unable to move and injured what if the car had set on fire, it would be murder so as it stands its attempted murder and all should be banned for life driving and face 5 years imprison but with idiots like these they never learn.robertsct6

I am the victims father...There was 3 in the car and all left my son unable to move and injured what if the car had set on fire, it would be murder so as it stands its attempted murder and all should be banned for life driving and face 5 years imprison but with idiots like these they never learn.

Score: 104

[deleted]
5:22pm Sat 1 Feb 14

[deleted]

Asian yet again!!english n proud

Asian yet again!!

Score: 0

yellowbeaver08
6:35pm Sat 1 Feb 14

SEND HIM STRAIGHT TO THE GALLOWS IMMEDIATELY .

SEND HIM STRAIGHT TO THE GALLOWS IMMEDIATELY .yellowbeaver08

SEND HIM STRAIGHT TO THE GALLOWS IMMEDIATELY .

Score: 43

JustBecause
6:45pm Sat 1 Feb 14

It's will be the usual driving ban, when with the justice system realise that a ban is academic, they are probably driving illegal anyway.

ALL charges should carry the full extent of the law and run consecutive.

However the do gooders will be in charge and he will get a few month ban and a 20 quid fine, regardless of if he is legal to drive anyway.

We need more police, it's that simple.

It's will be the usual driving ban, when with the justice system realise that a ban is academic, they are probably driving illegal anyway.
ALL charges should carry the full extent of the law and run consecutive.
Dangerous driving
Drink driving
Leaving the scene of an accident
GBH
Etc
Should be a good few years in that lot.
However the do gooders will be in charge and he will get a few month ban and a 20 quid fine, regardless of if he is legal to drive anyway.
We need more police, it's that simple.JustBecause

It's will be the usual driving ban, when with the justice system realise that a ban is academic, they are probably driving illegal anyway.

ALL charges should carry the full extent of the law and run consecutive.

However the do gooders will be in charge and he will get a few month ban and a 20 quid fine, regardless of if he is legal to drive anyway.

We need more police, it's that simple.

Score: 43

Citizen Cane
7:46pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Robertsct6, we're with you on this one : 3 scum in the car - all running away - that is sub-human behaviour. No excuse whatsoever. Stinks of criminality. I hope that all three were arrested. With a dangerous driving charge, you're looking at 2 years max. Be prepared to approach the Attorney General for anything less than 2 years on the basis that it is unduly lenient.

Best wishes to Rob jnr

Robertsct6, we're with you on this one : 3 scum in the car - all running away - that is sub-human behaviour. No excuse whatsoever. Stinks of criminality. I hope that all three were arrested. With a dangerous driving charge, you're looking at 2 years max. Be prepared to approach the Attorney General for anything less than 2 years on the basis that it is unduly lenient.
Best wishes to Rob jnrCitizen Cane

Robertsct6, we're with you on this one : 3 scum in the car - all running away - that is sub-human behaviour. No excuse whatsoever. Stinks of criminality. I hope that all three were arrested. With a dangerous driving charge, you're looking at 2 years max. Be prepared to approach the Attorney General for anything less than 2 years on the basis that it is unduly lenient.

Best wishes to Rob jnr

Score: 20

BWFC71
10:13pm Sat 1 Feb 14

albertmodley wrote…

bigbob123 wrote…

I was In Bolton hospital this morning and was sat facing the drunk driver who was handcuffed and escorted by police.
He was being loud and abusive and in my eyes should not of been treated. he was very drunk.
I don't know where the Asian part came from because he was black. (just clearing up the whole Asian thing)
He was shouting that he was not guilty and was not driving, he claimed someone else was and he just took the blame for this person.

Guilty or otherwise he should get 12 month just for being abusive to members of the NHS who had a duty of care to attend to this moron

Todays papers report 1 car in 11 on road is uninsured.Anyone like to quote odds that this guy is one of them.Total diregard for law as with drink drive probably means he will disregard all other laws too.Only remedy to me with uninsured drivers is take car off them and crush it before their very eyes.

That's the thing it is actually cheaper to go through the courts and get fined a total of about £500-£600 for no insurance!!!

I am now on my 2nd year of insurance back in the UK and its costing £1050+administratio
n costs (due to the fact the insurance companies do not take into account 7 accident free years in The Netherlands - mainly because I hardly drove anyway because of the fantastic integrated public transport)!!!network
)

As regards this news report the offender if/when should be charged with DUI (driving under influence of drink or drug), dangerous driving and attempted murder (as it should be as he would have known he was over the limit before getting behind the steering wheel).

[quote][p][bold]albertmodley[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]bigbob123[/bold] wrote:
I was In Bolton hospital this morning and was sat facing the drunk driver who was handcuffed and escorted by police.
He was being loud and abusive and in my eyes should not of been treated. he was very drunk.
I don't know where the Asian part came from because he was black. (just clearing up the whole Asian thing)
He was shouting that he was not guilty and was not driving, he claimed someone else was and he just took the blame for this person.
Guilty or otherwise he should get 12 month just for being abusive to members of the NHS who had a duty of care to attend to this moron[/p][/quote]Todays papers report 1 car in 11 on road is uninsured.Anyone like to quote odds that this guy is one of them.Total diregard for law as with drink drive probably means he will disregard all other laws too.Only remedy to me with uninsured drivers is take car off them and crush it before their very eyes.[/p][/quote]That's the thing it is actually cheaper to go through the courts and get fined a total of about £500-£600 for no insurance!!!
I am now on my 2nd year of insurance back in the UK and its costing £1050+administratio
n costs (due to the fact the insurance companies do not take into account 7 accident free years in The Netherlands - mainly because I hardly drove anyway because of the fantastic integrated public transport)!!!network
)
As regards this news report the offender if/when should be charged with DUI (driving under influence of drink or drug), dangerous driving and attempted murder (as it should be as he would have known he was over the limit before getting behind the steering wheel).BWFC71

albertmodley wrote…

bigbob123 wrote…

I was In Bolton hospital this morning and was sat facing the drunk driver who was handcuffed and escorted by police.
He was being loud and abusive and in my eyes should not of been treated. he was very drunk.
I don't know where the Asian part came from because he was black. (just clearing up the whole Asian thing)
He was shouting that he was not guilty and was not driving, he claimed someone else was and he just took the blame for this person.

Guilty or otherwise he should get 12 month just for being abusive to members of the NHS who had a duty of care to attend to this moron

Todays papers report 1 car in 11 on road is uninsured.Anyone like to quote odds that this guy is one of them.Total diregard for law as with drink drive probably means he will disregard all other laws too.Only remedy to me with uninsured drivers is take car off them and crush it before their very eyes.

That's the thing it is actually cheaper to go through the courts and get fined a total of about £500-£600 for no insurance!!!

I am now on my 2nd year of insurance back in the UK and its costing £1050+administratio
n costs (due to the fact the insurance companies do not take into account 7 accident free years in The Netherlands - mainly because I hardly drove anyway because of the fantastic integrated public transport)!!!network
)

As regards this news report the offender if/when should be charged with DUI (driving under influence of drink or drug), dangerous driving and attempted murder (as it should be as he would have known he was over the limit before getting behind the steering wheel).

Score: -102

Chrome1
11:54pm Sat 1 Feb 14

The guy has been arrested. He's not been charged with anything yet. It's a serious incident and hope the other driver makes a full recovery. We don't know the full circumstances. I doubt if attempted murder is considered. The driver under arrest needs to have intended to kill the other driver.

The guy has been arrested. He's not been charged with anything yet. It's a serious incident and hope the other driver makes a full recovery. We don't know the full circumstances. I doubt if attempted murder is considered. The driver under arrest needs to have intended to kill the other driver.Chrome1

The guy has been arrested. He's not been charged with anything yet. It's a serious incident and hope the other driver makes a full recovery. We don't know the full circumstances. I doubt if attempted murder is considered. The driver under arrest needs to have intended to kill the other driver.

Score: -99

Chrome1
11:59pm Sat 1 Feb 14

The guy has been arrested. He's not been charged with anything yet. It's a serious incident and hope the other driver makes a full recovery. We don't know the full circumstances. I doubt if attempted murder will be considered. The driver under arrest needs to have intended to kill the other driver. Plus we don't know if the suspect ran away. It was just one version of events. He may have gone to call for help. He was breathalised at the scene after all.

The guy has been arrested. He's not been charged with anything yet. It's a serious incident and hope the other driver makes a full recovery. We don't know the full circumstances. I doubt if attempted murder will be considered. The driver under arrest needs to have intended to kill the other driver. Plus we don't know if the suspect ran away. It was just one version of events. He may have gone to call for help. He was breathalised at the scene after all.Chrome1

The guy has been arrested. He's not been charged with anything yet. It's a serious incident and hope the other driver makes a full recovery. We don't know the full circumstances. I doubt if attempted murder will be considered. The driver under arrest needs to have intended to kill the other driver. Plus we don't know if the suspect ran away. It was just one version of events. He may have gone to call for help. He was breathalised at the scene after all.

Score: -85

Rememberscarborough
2:00am Sun 2 Feb 14

Chrome1 wrote…

The guy has been arrested. He's not been charged with anything yet. It's a serious incident and hope the other driver makes a full recovery. We don't know the full circumstances. I doubt if attempted murder will be considered. The driver under arrest needs to have intended to kill the other driver. Plus we don't know if the suspect ran away. It was just one version of events. He may have gone to call for help. He was breathalised at the scene after all.

Three people in a car and not one of them had a mobile phone? Normal people do not run away from a car crash unless they have something to hide. Worryingly I don't think there's anything in law to stop the passengers abandoning a seriously injured person and that can't be right in what we consider to be a humane society.

[quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote:
The guy has been arrested. He's not been charged with anything yet. It's a serious incident and hope the other driver makes a full recovery. We don't know the full circumstances. I doubt if attempted murder will be considered. The driver under arrest needs to have intended to kill the other driver. Plus we don't know if the suspect ran away. It was just one version of events. He may have gone to call for help. He was breathalised at the scene after all.[/p][/quote]Three people in a car and not one of them had a mobile phone? Normal people do not run away from a car crash unless they have something to hide. Worryingly I don't think there's anything in law to stop the passengers abandoning a seriously injured person and that can't be right in what we consider to be a humane society.Rememberscarborough

Chrome1 wrote…

The guy has been arrested. He's not been charged with anything yet. It's a serious incident and hope the other driver makes a full recovery. We don't know the full circumstances. I doubt if attempted murder will be considered. The driver under arrest needs to have intended to kill the other driver. Plus we don't know if the suspect ran away. It was just one version of events. He may have gone to call for help. He was breathalised at the scene after all.

Three people in a car and not one of them had a mobile phone? Normal people do not run away from a car crash unless they have something to hide. Worryingly I don't think there's anything in law to stop the passengers abandoning a seriously injured person and that can't be right in what we consider to be a humane society.

Score: 39

paula31 x
8:16am Sun 2 Feb 14

brilliant news that rob is stable! now let's all hope the person that caused this pays for it!! can't imagine how rob's family must of felt hearing the horrible news! just glad it's had a happy out come, anyone that drives after drinking shouldn't be allowed to ever drive again it's foolish!!! I was training at my local gym outside and saw the helicopter in the air said to my training friends at the time somthing bad has happened for that to be here!
just happy for the victim and his family hope u make a speedy recovery rob! all the best to u and your family!! paula 31x

brilliant news that rob is stable! now let's all hope the person that caused this pays for it!! can't imagine how rob's family must of felt hearing the horrible news! just glad it's had a happy out come, anyone that drives after drinking shouldn't be allowed to ever drive again it's foolish!!! I was training at my local gym outside and saw the helicopter in the air said to my training friends at the time somthing bad has happened for that to be here!
just happy for the victim and his family hope u make a speedy recovery rob! all the best to u and your family!! paula 31xpaula31 x

brilliant news that rob is stable! now let's all hope the person that caused this pays for it!! can't imagine how rob's family must of felt hearing the horrible news! just glad it's had a happy out come, anyone that drives after drinking shouldn't be allowed to ever drive again it's foolish!!! I was training at my local gym outside and saw the helicopter in the air said to my training friends at the time somthing bad has happened for that to be here!
just happy for the victim and his family hope u make a speedy recovery rob! all the best to u and your family!! paula 31x

Score: 36

Andyroost
10:46am Sun 2 Feb 14

bigbob123 wrote…

I was In Bolton hospital this morning and was sat facing the drunk driver who was handcuffed and escorted by police.
He was being loud and abusive and in my eyes should not of been treated. he was very drunk.
I don't know where the Asian part came from because he was black. (just clearing up the whole Asian thing)
He was shouting that he was not guilty and was not driving, he claimed someone else was and he just took the blame for this person.

Guilty or otherwise he should get 12 month just for being abusive to members of the NHS who had a duty of care to attend to this moron

The only positive here is he was speaking English, won't be able to hide behind an interpreter, the law won't deal with him in this country even if he stays around to attend court. These crimes will continue and get worse until prison becomes a deterrent, We need to use prison cells rented in foreign countries, ie Thailand etc, 're offending would become zero and it would save tax payer money, it costs over 200 pound a day to keep a prisoner in a UK jail, in a this jail it's less than 14 pound. Common sense! Time.

[quote][p][bold]bigbob123[/bold] wrote:
I was In Bolton hospital this morning and was sat facing the drunk driver who was handcuffed and escorted by police.
He was being loud and abusive and in my eyes should not of been treated. he was very drunk.
I don't know where the Asian part came from because he was black. (just clearing up the whole Asian thing)
He was shouting that he was not guilty and was not driving, he claimed someone else was and he just took the blame for this person.
Guilty or otherwise he should get 12 month just for being abusive to members of the NHS who had a duty of care to attend to this moron[/p][/quote]The only positive here is he was speaking English, won't be able to hide behind an interpreter, the law won't deal with him in this country even if he stays around to attend court. These crimes will continue and get worse until prison becomes a deterrent, We need to use prison cells rented in foreign countries, ie Thailand etc, 're offending would become zero and it would save tax payer money, it costs over 200 pound a day to keep a prisoner in a UK jail, in a this jail it's less than 14 pound. Common sense! Time.Andyroost

bigbob123 wrote…

I was In Bolton hospital this morning and was sat facing the drunk driver who was handcuffed and escorted by police.
He was being loud and abusive and in my eyes should not of been treated. he was very drunk.
I don't know where the Asian part came from because he was black. (just clearing up the whole Asian thing)
He was shouting that he was not guilty and was not driving, he claimed someone else was and he just took the blame for this person.

Guilty or otherwise he should get 12 month just for being abusive to members of the NHS who had a duty of care to attend to this moron

The only positive here is he was speaking English, won't be able to hide behind an interpreter, the law won't deal with him in this country even if he stays around to attend court. These crimes will continue and get worse until prison becomes a deterrent, We need to use prison cells rented in foreign countries, ie Thailand etc, 're offending would become zero and it would save tax payer money, it costs over 200 pound a day to keep a prisoner in a UK jail, in a this jail it's less than 14 pound. Common sense! Time.

Score: 33

Annie H
10:56am Sun 2 Feb 14

Thoughts with Rob and his family, so pleased to hear that he is stable and hope he makes a full and speedy recovery, as for the three in the other car, despicable cowards to leave him in that awful state and hope they all get the punishment they deserve.

Thoughts with Rob and his family, so pleased to hear that he is stable and hope he makes a full and speedy recovery, as for the three in the other car, despicable cowards to leave him in that awful state and hope they all get the punishment they deserve.Annie H

Thoughts with Rob and his family, so pleased to hear that he is stable and hope he makes a full and speedy recovery, as for the three in the other car, despicable cowards to leave him in that awful state and hope they all get the punishment they deserve.

Score: 42

MrBenggo
3:56pm Sun 2 Feb 14

JustBecause wrote…

It's will be the usual driving ban, when with the justice system realise that a ban is academic, they are probably driving illegal anyway.

ALL charges should carry the full extent of the law and run consecutive.

However the do gooders will be in charge and he will get a few month ban and a 20 quid fine, regardless of if he is legal to drive anyway.

We need more police, it's that simple.

"we need more police,it's that simple"
There could be police on every street corner,but if the judge gives a lenient sentence,it doesn't matter how many police there are.
I agree with you,we do need more police.

[quote][p][bold]JustBecause[/bold] wrote:
It's will be the usual driving ban, when with the justice system realise that a ban is academic, they are probably driving illegal anyway.
ALL charges should carry the full extent of the law and run consecutive.
Dangerous driving
Drink driving
Leaving the scene of an accident
GBH
Etc
Should be a good few years in that lot.
However the do gooders will be in charge and he will get a few month ban and a 20 quid fine, regardless of if he is legal to drive anyway.
We need more police, it's that simple.[/p][/quote]"we need more police,it's that simple"
There could be police on every street corner,but if the judge gives a lenient sentence,it doesn't matter how many police there are.
I agree with you,we do need more police.MrBenggo

JustBecause wrote…

It's will be the usual driving ban, when with the justice system realise that a ban is academic, they are probably driving illegal anyway.

ALL charges should carry the full extent of the law and run consecutive.

However the do gooders will be in charge and he will get a few month ban and a 20 quid fine, regardless of if he is legal to drive anyway.

We need more police, it's that simple.

"we need more police,it's that simple"
There could be police on every street corner,but if the judge gives a lenient sentence,it doesn't matter how many police there are.
I agree with you,we do need more police.

Score: 39

robertsct6
4:41pm Sun 2 Feb 14

was arrested and now on bail....was not asian but somalian

was arrested and now on bail....was not asian but somalianrobertsct6

was arrested and now on bail....was not asian but somalian

Score: 37

robertsct6
4:42pm Sun 2 Feb 14

robertsct6 wrote…

I am the victims father...There was 3 in the car and all left my son unable to move and injured what if the car had set on fire, it would be murder so as it stands its attempted murder and all should be banned for life driving and face 5 years imprison but with idiots like these they never learn.

the driver was NOT asian he was somalian and now released on bail..

[quote][p][bold]robertsct6[/bold] wrote:
I am the victims father...There was 3 in the car and all left my son unable to move and injured what if the car had set on fire, it would be murder so as it stands its attempted murder and all should be banned for life driving and face 5 years imprison but with idiots like these they never learn.[/p][/quote]the driver was NOT asian he was somalian and now released on bail..robertsct6

robertsct6 wrote…

I am the victims father...There was 3 in the car and all left my son unable to move and injured what if the car had set on fire, it would be murder so as it stands its attempted murder and all should be banned for life driving and face 5 years imprison but with idiots like these they never learn.

the driver was NOT asian he was somalian and now released on bail..

Score: 33

yellowbeaver08
5:38pm Sun 2 Feb 14

I am glad they have caught the TRASH

I am glad they have caught the TRASHyellowbeaver08

I am glad they have caught the TRASH

Score: 95

Don Kiddick
9:53pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Chrome1 wrote…

The guy has been arrested. He's not been charged with anything yet. It's a serious incident and hope the other driver makes a full recovery. We don't know the full circumstances. I doubt if attempted murder is considered. The driver under arrest needs to have intended to kill the other driver.

Nearly a 100 minus votes - for speaking absolute sense. Thats an indication of the numpties reading these stories - or perhaps a couple of numpties with busy fingers.

Attempted murder????? Murder is purposely taking a life and there's absolutely no indication of that here.

I hope the injured driver makes a speedy recovery. It's always tragic when someone who has worked for a career and a future, has that hard work undone by worthless scum.

Personally, the drunk driver if guilty (and it's a fair assumption given the alcohol, obvious speed, running off etc) should be excecuted. He clearly has no regard for our lives and safety, so why should he have a place on this earth.

The drunk driver was bailed - I wonder if we'll ever see him again.

[quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote:
The guy has been arrested. He's not been charged with anything yet. It's a serious incident and hope the other driver makes a full recovery. We don't know the full circumstances. I doubt if attempted murder is considered. The driver under arrest needs to have intended to kill the other driver.[/p][/quote]Nearly a 100 minus votes - for speaking absolute sense. Thats an indication of the numpties reading these stories - or perhaps a couple of numpties with busy fingers.
Attempted murder????? Murder is purposely taking a life and there's absolutely no indication of that here.
I hope the injured driver makes a speedy recovery. It's always tragic when someone who has worked for a career and a future, has that hard work undone by worthless scum.
Personally, the drunk driver if guilty (and it's a fair assumption given the alcohol, obvious speed, running off etc) should be excecuted. He clearly has no regard for our lives and safety, so why should he have a place on this earth.
The drunk driver was bailed - I wonder if we'll ever see him again.Don Kiddick

Chrome1 wrote…

The guy has been arrested. He's not been charged with anything yet. It's a serious incident and hope the other driver makes a full recovery. We don't know the full circumstances. I doubt if attempted murder is considered. The driver under arrest needs to have intended to kill the other driver.

Nearly a 100 minus votes - for speaking absolute sense. Thats an indication of the numpties reading these stories - or perhaps a couple of numpties with busy fingers.

Attempted murder????? Murder is purposely taking a life and there's absolutely no indication of that here.

I hope the injured driver makes a speedy recovery. It's always tragic when someone who has worked for a career and a future, has that hard work undone by worthless scum.

Personally, the drunk driver if guilty (and it's a fair assumption given the alcohol, obvious speed, running off etc) should be excecuted. He clearly has no regard for our lives and safety, so why should he have a place on this earth.

The drunk driver was bailed - I wonder if we'll ever see him again.

Score: 4

Rawenergy
10:02pm Sun 2 Feb 14

jonezey1 wrote…

Please to say he is stable fully awake and talking

Good news!!!!

[quote][p][bold]jonezey1[/bold] wrote:
Please to say he is stable fully awake and talking[/p][/quote]Good news!!!!Rawenergy

jonezey1 wrote…

Please to say he is stable fully awake and talking

Good news!!!!

Score: 3

Darren1951
10:02pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Two posters have stated that an arrested driver was bailed - where's that come from. or are you privy to information that we mere mortals aren''t?

Two posters have stated that an arrested driver was bailed - where's that come from. or are you privy to information that we mere mortals aren''t?Darren1951

Two posters have stated that an arrested driver was bailed - where's that come from. or are you privy to information that we mere mortals aren''t?

Score: 2

Rawenergy
10:34pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Bailed?? Wouldn't happen if he/she was white, not racist, just a fact

Bailed?? Wouldn't happen if he/she was white, not racist, just a factRawenergy

Bailed?? Wouldn't happen if he/she was white, not racist, just a fact

Score: 3

Don Kiddick
11:02pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Darren1951 wrote…

Two posters have stated that an arrested driver was bailed - where's that come from. or are you privy to information that we mere mortals aren''t?

Well it was the victim's father who stated the drunk driver has been released on bail.

A fairly reliable source one would assume.

[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote:
Two posters have stated that an arrested driver was bailed - where's that come from. or are you privy to information that we mere mortals aren''t?[/p][/quote]Well it was the victim's father who stated the drunk driver has been released on bail.
A fairly reliable source one would assume.Don Kiddick

Darren1951 wrote…

Two posters have stated that an arrested driver was bailed - where's that come from. or are you privy to information that we mere mortals aren''t?

Well it was the victim's father who stated the drunk driver has been released on bail.

A fairly reliable source one would assume.

Score: 6

barry g
2:39am Mon 3 Feb 14

Don Kiddick wrote…

Chrome1 wrote…

The guy has been arrested. He's not been charged with anything yet. It's a serious incident and hope the other driver makes a full recovery. We don't know the full circumstances. I doubt if attempted murder is considered. The driver under arrest needs to have intended to kill the other driver.

Nearly a 100 minus votes - for speaking absolute sense. Thats an indication of the numpties reading these stories - or perhaps a couple of numpties with busy fingers.

Attempted murder????? Murder is purposely taking a life and there's absolutely no indication of that here.

I hope the injured driver makes a speedy recovery. It's always tragic when someone who has worked for a career and a future, has that hard work undone by worthless scum.

Personally, the drunk driver if guilty (and it's a fair assumption given the alcohol, obvious speed, running off etc) should be excecuted. He clearly has no regard for our lives and safety, so why should he have a place on this earth.

The drunk driver was bailed - I wonder if we'll ever see him again.

The driver made a decision to get behind the wheel of a car whilst under the influence of alcohol. Fact: he failed a roadside breathalyzer test. When he decided to drive whilst not fit, he then took the risk of killing somebody, if I go out with the thinking I might kill somebody then surely that constitutes attempted murder because of chance.

[quote][p][bold]Don Kiddick[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote:
The guy has been arrested. He's not been charged with anything yet. It's a serious incident and hope the other driver makes a full recovery. We don't know the full circumstances. I doubt if attempted murder is considered. The driver under arrest needs to have intended to kill the other driver.[/p][/quote]Nearly a 100 minus votes - for speaking absolute sense. Thats an indication of the numpties reading these stories - or perhaps a couple of numpties with busy fingers.
Attempted murder????? Murder is purposely taking a life and there's absolutely no indication of that here.
I hope the injured driver makes a speedy recovery. It's always tragic when someone who has worked for a career and a future, has that hard work undone by worthless scum.
Personally, the drunk driver if guilty (and it's a fair assumption given the alcohol, obvious speed, running off etc) should be excecuted. He clearly has no regard for our lives and safety, so why should he have a place on this earth.
The drunk driver was bailed - I wonder if we'll ever see him again.[/p][/quote]The driver made a decision to get behind the wheel of a car whilst under the influence of alcohol. Fact: he failed a roadside breathalyzer test. When he decided to drive whilst not fit, he then took the risk of killing somebody, if I go out with the thinking I might kill somebody then surely that constitutes attempted murder because of chance.barry g

Don Kiddick wrote…

Chrome1 wrote…

The guy has been arrested. He's not been charged with anything yet. It's a serious incident and hope the other driver makes a full recovery. We don't know the full circumstances. I doubt if attempted murder is considered. The driver under arrest needs to have intended to kill the other driver.

Nearly a 100 minus votes - for speaking absolute sense. Thats an indication of the numpties reading these stories - or perhaps a couple of numpties with busy fingers.

Attempted murder????? Murder is purposely taking a life and there's absolutely no indication of that here.

I hope the injured driver makes a speedy recovery. It's always tragic when someone who has worked for a career and a future, has that hard work undone by worthless scum.

Personally, the drunk driver if guilty (and it's a fair assumption given the alcohol, obvious speed, running off etc) should be excecuted. He clearly has no regard for our lives and safety, so why should he have a place on this earth.

The drunk driver was bailed - I wonder if we'll ever see him again.

The driver made a decision to get behind the wheel of a car whilst under the influence of alcohol. Fact: he failed a roadside breathalyzer test. When he decided to drive whilst not fit, he then took the risk of killing somebody, if I go out with the thinking I might kill somebody then surely that constitutes attempted murder because of chance.

Score: 2

Jasonkenny
8:05am Mon 3 Feb 14

There has been a lot of alleged info but as far as we can tell, the three men are Somalian and were allegedly drinking from a bottle of brandy in the car. They did run but a bystander stopped the driver and handed him to the men working in a nearby butty van whilst he tried to chase after the others. Unfortunately the driver slipped out of their grasp and ran towards sainsburys where police caught up with him.

This is all alleged but I am sure the facts will be found with DNA and finger prints etc.

Rob seems to be making good progress and all at Perrys are relieved that this wasn't much much worse.

There has been a lot of alleged info but as far as we can tell, the three men are Somalian and were allegedly drinking from a bottle of brandy in the car. They did run but a bystander stopped the driver and handed him to the men working in a nearby butty van whilst he tried to chase after the others. Unfortunately the driver slipped out of their grasp and ran towards sainsburys where police caught up with him.
This is all alleged but I am sure the facts will be found with DNA and finger prints etc.
Rob seems to be making good progress and all at Perrys are relieved that this wasn't much much worse.Jasonkenny

There has been a lot of alleged info but as far as we can tell, the three men are Somalian and were allegedly drinking from a bottle of brandy in the car. They did run but a bystander stopped the driver and handed him to the men working in a nearby butty van whilst he tried to chase after the others. Unfortunately the driver slipped out of their grasp and ran towards sainsburys where police caught up with him.

This is all alleged but I am sure the facts will be found with DNA and finger prints etc.

Rob seems to be making good progress and all at Perrys are relieved that this wasn't much much worse.

Score: 10

VIGILANTE VIC
1:11pm Mon 3 Feb 14

I HOPE THEY ALSO BRING OUT DRUG TESTING KITS, THERE ARE PROBABLY JUST AS MANY DRUG DRIVERS AS DRINK DRIVERS... I THINK THEY HAVE THOSE ROADSIDE DRUG TESTING KITS IN OTHER COUNTRIES..

I HOPE THEY ALSO BRING OUT DRUG TESTING KITS, THERE ARE PROBABLY JUST AS MANY DRUG DRIVERS AS DRINK DRIVERS... I THINK THEY HAVE THOSE ROADSIDE DRUG TESTING KITS IN OTHER COUNTRIES..VIGILANTE VIC

I HOPE THEY ALSO BRING OUT DRUG TESTING KITS, THERE ARE PROBABLY JUST AS MANY DRUG DRIVERS AS DRINK DRIVERS... I THINK THEY HAVE THOSE ROADSIDE DRUG TESTING KITS IN OTHER COUNTRIES..

Score: 1

Don Kiddick
3:39pm Mon 3 Feb 14

barry g wrote…

Don Kiddick wrote…

Chrome1 wrote…

The guy has been arrested. He's not been charged with anything yet. It's a serious incident and hope the other driver makes a full recovery. We don't know the full circumstances. I doubt if attempted murder is considered. The driver under arrest needs to have intended to kill the other driver.

Nearly a 100 minus votes - for speaking absolute sense. Thats an indication of the numpties reading these stories - or perhaps a couple of numpties with busy fingers. Attempted murder????? Murder is purposely taking a life and there's absolutely no indication of that here. I hope the injured driver makes a speedy recovery. It's always tragic when someone who has worked for a career and a future, has that hard work undone by worthless scum. Personally, the drunk driver if guilty (and it's a fair assumption given the alcohol, obvious speed, running off etc) should be excecuted. He clearly has no regard for our lives and safety, so why should he have a place on this earth. The drunk driver was bailed - I wonder if we'll ever see him again.

The driver made a decision to get behind the wheel of a car whilst under the influence of alcohol. Fact: he failed a roadside breathalyzer test. When he decided to drive whilst not fit, he then took the risk of killing somebody, if I go out with the thinking I might kill somebody then surely that constitutes attempted murder because of chance.

If the driver purposely drove his car at someone then it is attempted murder, or murder if the other person died. There is an existing intent to kill.

If the driver lost control of the car and caused a fatal accident, then it is neither attempted murder nor murder.

[quote][p][bold]barry g[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Don Kiddick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: The guy has been arrested. He's not been charged with anything yet. It's a serious incident and hope the other driver makes a full recovery. We don't know the full circumstances. I doubt if attempted murder is considered. The driver under arrest needs to have intended to kill the other driver.[/p][/quote]Nearly a 100 minus votes - for speaking absolute sense. Thats an indication of the numpties reading these stories - or perhaps a couple of numpties with busy fingers. Attempted murder????? Murder is purposely taking a life and there's absolutely no indication of that here. I hope the injured driver makes a speedy recovery. It's always tragic when someone who has worked for a career and a future, has that hard work undone by worthless scum. Personally, the drunk driver if guilty (and it's a fair assumption given the alcohol, obvious speed, running off etc) should be excecuted. He clearly has no regard for our lives and safety, so why should he have a place on this earth. The drunk driver was bailed - I wonder if we'll ever see him again.[/p][/quote]The driver made a decision to get behind the wheel of a car whilst under the influence of alcohol. Fact: he failed a roadside breathalyzer test. When he decided to drive whilst not fit, he then took the risk of killing somebody, if I go out with the thinking I might kill somebody then surely that constitutes attempted murder because of chance.[/p][/quote]If the driver purposely drove his car at someone then it is attempted murder, or murder if the other person died. There is an existing intent to kill.
If the driver lost control of the car and caused a fatal accident, then it is neither attempted murder nor murder.Don Kiddick

barry g wrote…

Don Kiddick wrote…

Chrome1 wrote…

The guy has been arrested. He's not been charged with anything yet. It's a serious incident and hope the other driver makes a full recovery. We don't know the full circumstances. I doubt if attempted murder is considered. The driver under arrest needs to have intended to kill the other driver.

Nearly a 100 minus votes - for speaking absolute sense. Thats an indication of the numpties reading these stories - or perhaps a couple of numpties with busy fingers. Attempted murder????? Murder is purposely taking a life and there's absolutely no indication of that here. I hope the injured driver makes a speedy recovery. It's always tragic when someone who has worked for a career and a future, has that hard work undone by worthless scum. Personally, the drunk driver if guilty (and it's a fair assumption given the alcohol, obvious speed, running off etc) should be excecuted. He clearly has no regard for our lives and safety, so why should he have a place on this earth. The drunk driver was bailed - I wonder if we'll ever see him again.

The driver made a decision to get behind the wheel of a car whilst under the influence of alcohol. Fact: he failed a roadside breathalyzer test. When he decided to drive whilst not fit, he then took the risk of killing somebody, if I go out with the thinking I might kill somebody then surely that constitutes attempted murder because of chance.

If the driver purposely drove his car at someone then it is attempted murder, or murder if the other person died. There is an existing intent to kill.

If the driver lost control of the car and caused a fatal accident, then it is neither attempted murder nor murder.

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