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My love for the Seville started with the Allante. This was a statement when this car came out. Then low and behold, along came the 4 door version, The Seville. I fell in love with this the first day it was born. Muscle, looks and class all in one and room for the family or the rest of the foursome. The change in 98 did upset me a bit. It took a while and it grew on me. As a matter of fact I finally bought one. A 2001 STS. The design of these 3 models of Cadillac are timeless. They all still look like a class car. Might have gone a little too much European on design, but there are still some 20 year old Mercs amd BMW's that still look classy. These Cadillacs, Alante and Sevilles are still class cars and will be for many years. They are timeless. The new STS is no match in design to these. If you have one, hold onto it. I think Cadillac has made a huge mistake in marketing. All of us who have one of these classics are not looking for change. They may think there is a market out there for us to replace our cars...... not. LOL. As for a new market, the newbees can have it.

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I hear what you're saying, Rickster. But you just can't deny that what they're doing is "right". Sort of like my old favorite band, Metallica. I hate them now. But if they didn't change into what they are - they'd be working at the local grocery store. But, no - they're still filling stadiums and selling records like crazy.. The same goes for Cadillac.. While this new design doesn't attract ALL of us, they're selling more now than ever. They're about to become what they once were many years ago. This didn't happen during the years of our favorite models/designs - it's happening now...

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Originally Posted by Sal Collaziano

I hear what you're saying, Rickster. But you just can't deny that what they're doing is "right". Sort of like my old favorite band, Metallica. I hate them now. But if they didn't change into what they are - they'd be working at the local grocery store. But, no - they're still filling stadiums and selling records like crazy.. The same goes for Cadillac.. While this new design doesn't attract ALL of us, they're selling more now than ever. They're about to become what they once were many years ago. This didn't happen during the years of our favorite cars - it's happening now...

Sigh... Sal is right... It may not please all of us, but it WILL raise the bottom line, and the world class perception of Cadillac.

Its kind of like this movie I saw tonight called The Cooler, Alec Baldwins character tries against all common sense to keep his Casino, the Shangri La, from being modernized because he thinks the most modern Casinos are a joke. The Casino as it is however makes almost nothing and in the end, the inevitable change takes place and the Casino takes off, even if its in a most gruesome way.

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I have to give a third nod to those comments. I loved the 98 STS when it came out and I remember hearing many say "It looks like a Japanese car", "It is not muscular like the previous model" and such. But as time has passed people really like it and see the logic in the design. I feel what the problem is is that we all had these really high hopes in our mind and so what ever they delivered would never live up to what we had in store mentally.

The more I look at the new STS and picture it in a darker color the more I see that it will be quite a classy car. I sold my 98 STS because I can not stand FWD and now that has been solved.

Also I remember when I first saw the CTS I was like...UMMMM I'm not sure. But a month later I was one of its biggest fans. Thing is I have started out liking the STS more than I did the CTS.

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Originally Posted by rueben44

I really don't know why anyone would have expected the STS to look like the Cadillac 16! We all told everyone it would not and Cadillac said that the Seville would have the basic form of the SRX except not wagon like.

I think it is reserved and a nice looking car. Is it edgy and bold like the CTS? No. Though I love the CTS this car will apeal to those that don't like it's edges. The wheels look big this time and the inside looks sweet. The option list is very good so I see no reason why this car will not do well if Cadillac prices it correctly 42-58K.

Any chance you know if the 2005 sts will have 17 in wheels . Also any guess on trunk capacity. My 03 STS is 15.7 cu ft so I hope 05 is not smaller. Concerned as I plan on ordering one but would sure like some specs first. Hope to see it at NY auto show in Apr.

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What the heck are those little ports you see on all German cars and that I am now seeing on the bumper of this STS? I am so tempted to pry them off all the time, and I suppose I could take mine off too but I always forget to do so. Are they computer connections, bumper bolting points or what?

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Originally Posted by Playdrv4me

What the heck are those little ports you see on all German cars and that I am now seeing on the bumper of this STS? I am so tempted to pry them off all the time, and I suppose I could take mine off too but I always forget to do so. Are they computer connections, bumper bolting points or what?

Well on Euro cars it is usually the head light washers. They pop up and spray the headlights. Thing is in that STS picture there is only one if you really look because those two picture are the same just flipped.

So I think in the Cadillac's case it is the radar sensor for the adaptive cruise control. It has to have it in front some where and it is not located in the lower air dam like the XLR so.....that’s what I am assuming.

However (LOL) I have been told that it is a place for the car to be pulled out of a ditch or something so damage would not be done by hooking chains underneath.

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after watching the video of the 05 sts it looks to me that it will be a bigger cts clone. if that is still the case after the N.Y auto show then i'll stick with the used 98-04 models until I can get a used 05 for under $40,000.

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I look at those wide rocker panels/sills on the STS and wonder if
people will compalain about them messing up their pants legs like they did with the SRX.
Kind of a wide step over, especially for short people.
Valid criticism.