I think Senna has had his chance and blown it. Maldonado has worked on his weaknesses (crashing) while maintaining speed which was evident in Singapore and Abu Dhabi whereas Senna has not really improved his qualifying which is still dire. Force India dont need him, they have Sahara. They need a driver who has promise so they should get Bianchi. Di Resta/ Senna/ Sutil are not as good as the drivers their rivals have.

You mean Bianchi has more talent & promise than Di Resta/Senna/Sutil combined?

I think Senna has had his chance and blown it. Maldonado has worked on his weaknesses (crashing) while maintaining speed which was evident in Singapore and Abu Dhabi whereas Senna has not really improved his qualifying which is still dire. Force India dont need him, they have Sahara. They need a driver who has promise so they should get Bianchi. Di Resta/ Senna/ Sutil are not as good as the drivers their rivals have.

You mean Bianchi has more talent & promise than Di Resta/Senna/Sutil combined?

I think Senna has had his chance and blown it. Maldonado has worked on his weaknesses (crashing) while maintaining speed which was evident in Singapore and Abu Dhabi whereas Senna has not really improved his qualifying which is still dire. Force India dont need him, they have Sahara. They need a driver who has promise so they should get Bianchi. Di Resta/ Senna/ Sutil are not as good as the drivers their rivals have.

You mean Bianchi has more talent & promise than Di Resta/Senna/Sutil combined?

Possibly, hopefully we'll find out next year.

Considering his performance in the junior formulae, it sums him up as an above average driver.

I think Senna has had his chance and blown it. Maldonado has worked on his weaknesses (crashing) while maintaining speed which was evident in Singapore and Abu Dhabi whereas Senna has not really improved his qualifying which is still dire. Force India dont need him, they have Sahara. They need a driver who has promise so they should get Bianchi. Di Resta/ Senna/ Sutil are not as good as the drivers their rivals have.

You mean Bianchi has more talent & promise than Di Resta/Senna/Sutil combined?

Possibly, hopefully we'll find out next year.

Considering his performance in the junior formulae, it sums him up as an above average driver.

Gutierrez is in a rival car and he is dire, as for not sorting his quali out what if he gets a drive next year and is better at quali because pirrelli have changed the tires to expand the window is he still a dire qualifier or has circumstances changed allowing him to show what he can do. Remember he out qualified and raced a few few of this grid in his rookie gp2 season and others trying to get seats too. People forget it was Maldonado and grosjean were two example of current drivers he beat so in the same machinery he can match them for speed its all about conditions. Last year unfortunately didn't suit him. Next year might far too many people take so much stock in just the past season and forget all else, i wouldn't like sutil if because of anything else i don't think you want someone with such a violent incident around, you just cant go and glass someone its not a great image for the sport or FI. Other than that i don't mind who they appoint but would favour someone with at least a season in f1 too many rookies next year could mean a lot of incidents.

Gutierrez is in a rival car and he is dire, as for not sorting his quali out what if he gets a drive next year and is better at quali because pirrelli have changed the tires to expand the window is he still a dire qualifier or has circumstances changed allowing him to show what he can do. Remember he out qualified and raced a few few of this grid in his rookie gp2 season and others trying to get seats too. People forget it was Maldonado and grosjean were two example of current drivers he beat so in the same machinery he can match them for speed its all about conditions. Last year unfortunately didn't suit him. Next year might far too many people take so much stock in just the past season and forget all else, i wouldn't like sutil if because of anything else i don't think you want someone with such a violent incident around, you just cant go and glass someone its not a great image for the sport or FI. Other than that i don't mind who they appoint but would favour someone with at least a season in f1 too many rookies next year could mean a lot of incidents.

Still no darn news about the lineup. It's under a month before their car is launched & the testing begins.

Surely its time to make a decision as its unlikley anything will change (apart from Caterham maybe removing one option if they take Senna), maybe someone will come up with more sponsorship but maybe they wont so they should sign someone in order for them to get used to the team (not really applicable to Sutil) and settle in rather than just dumping them in at the deep end in Jerez. The chances are the drivers want to know whats happening and might take other options rather than waiting for a seat they might not even get.

If it was all about money, we would have seen Bianchi or Senna in there by now. This delay must be because of something else. This is pure speculation from me but maybe they are evaluating Sutil's visa issues and getting advanced visas to some of the countries where he could face issues with visa, or they are waiting on finer contract details which could very well have to do with 2014 and the future. Drivers like Bianchi might come with some extra goodies from Ferrari camp for long run. I dont know but it is getting ridiculously close to launch now.

If it was all about money, we would have seen Bianchi or Senna in there by now. This delay must be because of something else. This is pure speculation from me but maybe they are evaluating Sutil's visa issues and getting advanced visas to some of the countries where he could face issues with visa, or they are waiting on finer contract details which could very well have to do with 2014 and the future. Drivers like Bianchi might come with some extra goodies from Ferrari camp for long run. I dont know but it is getting ridiculously close to launch now.

You could be right about Sutil's evaluation. Other than your explanation, I don't see any other valid reason for this weird delay.

Don't the drivers at Force India get a seat fitting session & similar meets before the testing starts? Even the rumour mills are distancing themselves from Force India. Sheesh!

Gutierrez is in a rival car and he is dire, as for not sorting his quali out what if he gets a drive next year and is better at quali because pirrelli have changed the tires to expand the window is he still a dire qualifier or has circumstances changed allowing him to show what he can do. Remember he out qualified and raced a few few of this grid in his rookie gp2 season and others trying to get seats too. People forget it was Maldonado and grosjean were two example of current drivers he beat so in the same machinery he can match them for speed its all about conditions. Last year unfortunately didn't suit him. Next year might far too many people take so much stock in just the past season and forget all else, i wouldn't like sutil if because of anything else i don't think you want someone with such a violent incident around, you just cant go and glass someone its not a great image for the sport or FI. Other than that i don't mind who they appoint but would favour someone with at least a season in f1 too many rookies next year could mean a lot of incidents.

Still no darn news about the lineup. It's under a month before their car is launched & the testing begins.

Gutierrez is in a rival car and he is dire, as for not sorting his quali out what if he gets a drive next year and is better at quali because pirrelli have changed the tires to expand the window is he still a dire qualifier or has circumstances changed allowing him to show what he can do. Remember he out qualified and raced a few few of this grid in his rookie gp2 season and others trying to get seats too. People forget it was Maldonado and grosjean were two example of current drivers he beat so in the same machinery he can match them for speed its all about conditions. Last year unfortunately didn't suit him. Next year might far too many people take so much stock in just the past season and forget all else, i wouldn't like sutil if because of anything else i don't think you want someone with such a violent incident around, you just cant go and glass someone its not a great image for the sport or FI. Other than that i don't mind who they appoint but would favour someone with at least a season in f1 too many rookies next year could mean a lot of incidents.

Still no darn news about the lineup. It's under a month before their car is launched & the testing begins.

what's the rush?

Cars get designed with the drivers in mind. Don't know how much it affects the car's performance overall, but it is important

Gutierrez is in a rival car and he is dire, as for not sorting his quali out what if he gets a drive next year and is better at quali because pirrelli have changed the tires to expand the window is he still a dire qualifier or has circumstances changed allowing him to show what he can do. Remember he out qualified and raced a few few of this grid in his rookie gp2 season and others trying to get seats too. People forget it was Maldonado and grosjean were two example of current drivers he beat so in the same machinery he can match them for speed its all about conditions. Last year unfortunately didn't suit him. Next year might far too many people take so much stock in just the past season and forget all else, i wouldn't like sutil if because of anything else i don't think you want someone with such a violent incident around, you just cant go and glass someone its not a great image for the sport or FI. Other than that i don't mind who they appoint but would favour someone with at least a season in f1 too many rookies next year could mean a lot of incidents.

Still no darn news about the lineup. It's under a month before their car is launched & the testing begins.

what's the rush?

Cars get designed with the drivers in mind. Don't know how much it affects the car's performance overall, but it is important

True. When the chasis is prepared around the cockpit, driver's stats are an important detail. I believe the pedals are designed to accommodate the driver's foot size & so, as there are many tiny details which have to be looked at.

I wonder if Sutil's already chosen but they haven't announced it yet till all his visa issues are cleared. Not deciding a driver lineup till so late is something quite unusual.

I like the kid. He never deserved to lose his seat in the first place. It was real close between PDR and NH this season. PDR should have beaten NH this year considering he'd already spent a year with the team. In my opinion, AS is a better driver than him anyway.

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I like the kid. He never deserved to lose his seat in the first place. It was real close between PDR and NH this season. PDR should have beaten NH this year considering he'd already spent a year with the team. In my opinion, AS is a better driver than him anyway.

True. What I noticed about Di Resta is that he ain't aggressive & will not take a chance when overtaking. If the race is normal & his position is safe, he will surely get the car home. He is stable but an F1 driver needs to be more than that.

About Force India still not having made a decision, there seems to be some thing that is missing our eyes. How can they possibly leave it so late to make a decision. Exactly 3 weeks for their car to launch.

Sahara Force India @clubforceLots of tweets coming to us about our 2013 line-up. For the moment you will need to be patient, but keep an eye on twitter for updates.

Maybe we're near the final announcement.

They have no choice but to make an announcement. Question is when (as there are 3 weeks to launch) & who (Di Resta, Sutil & Bianchi).

Whenever the announcement of the driver line up will be made, am sure a lot of debate will come up. I believe the delay is because of Sutil. Either he is finalised but are waiting for his Visa issues to clear or are trying to get his visa issues cleared so that they can make the official announcement.

Does anyone wonder if the hold up could be because they're trying to decide if they're keeping Di Resta or not? They might be thinking Sutil and someone else could be more worthwhile to them?

Maybe Ferrari are putting pressure on Force India to take Bianchi, Ferrari engines in 2014? The prospect of di Resta leading the team, who is basically a 2 year loser now, with a rookie doesn't look too great to me, Sutil is the more proven driver imo.

Since that was Bianchi's role in 2012, one would assume the rumours are true and he's off to Force India.Or Ferrari didn't rate Bianchi as a tester and wanted Marc back.

I want news!

Bianchi's role in 2012 was Force India reserve driver.

They have plenty of time to annouce a driver/s before the first test. Three weeks in fact.Three weeks where the driver would just be say about not doing what he's paid to do (drive).So why not take your time and make sure you hire the right person?

Since that was Bianchi's role in 2012, one would assume the rumours are true and he's off to Force India.Or Ferrari didn't rate Bianchi as a tester and wanted Marc back.

I want news!

Bianchi's role in 2012 was Force India reserve driver.

They have plenty of time to annouce a driver/s before the first test. Three weeks in fact.Three weeks where the driver would just be say about not doing what he's paid to do (drive).So why not take your time and make sure you hire the right person?

He was wasn't he? So why did Yalla say that.. curse you internet.I see what you're saying, but they have to take driver size into account and have to get seats measured. If there are simulators the driver can take a look and get accustomed, and get to know the teams dynamic and how they work.

There's taking your time, and then there's leaving it to the last minute

I am not bothered now i think force India and Caterham are quite frankly taking the gherkin, to leave so many drivers in the cold so late when other formulas and championships are filling their spots isn't right so many could be in new teams elsewhere which are rapidly filling, drivers cant afford seasons on the sidelines which is what these two teams will end up leaving them with just because they are trying to force every penny out of sponsors or to try and blag slightly cheaper engines, just goes to shoe really they all call themselves families. In reality they couldn't care less. Once they announce they will all say how they have a great driver how they didn't want anyone else its all bollocks.