Yeah, I mentioned that thing about "dual stereo speakers" to my friend. My question is whether Apple has ever stated that the iPad mini contains 2 speakers or if someone's opened one up to see. Just cause there are 2 sets of holes at the bottom doesn't necessarily mean there are 2 speakers down there.

Because some cheap ass people only care about price, and certain companies cater to those kind of consumers.

The ironic thing is that if somebody was really broke, the smart move would be to buy the slightly more expensive Apple product.

Here are two scenarios for a cheap ass broke person.

(1) Cheap ass broke person buys a $200, low quality Android tablet. They will have to live with a sub-par, frustrating experience over the lifetime of their tablet and after a year or two, their tablet will be worth almost nothing if and when they try to sell it.

(2) Cheap ass broke person buys a $329, extremely high quality, superior Apple iPad Mini. They will have to live with a wonderful, first class experience over the lifetime of their tablet and after a year or two, their superior Apple product will still command a respectable price on the used market, as high quality Apple products are always in high demand. Cheap ass broke person #2 will end up with more money in their pocket than cheap ass broke person #1 who thought that they were being smart and saving a couple of dollars by buying the inferior, cheaper product.

Yeah, I mentioned that thing about "dual stereo speakers" to my friend. My question is whether Apple has ever stated that the iPad mini contains 2 speakers or if someone's opened one up to see. Just cause there are 2 sets of holes at the bottom doesn't necessarily mean there are 2 speakers down there.

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We don't need to wait for any teardown, Apple has already confirmed that it is stereo.

Oh? Where? I see one comment from one reviewer above, who may have concluded there were two speakers as there are two grilles. Multiple reviewers made the same mistake when the iPhone 5 was released, until the tear down revealed it was just one speaker inside.

Because some cheap ass people only care about price, and certain companies cater to those kind of consumers.

The ironic thing is that if somebody was really broke, the smart move would be to buy the slightly more expensive Apple product.

Here are two scenarios for a cheap ass broke person.

(1) Cheap ass broke person buys a $200, low quality Android tablet. They will have to live with a sub-par, frustrating experience over the lifetime of their tablet and after a year or two, their tablet will be worth almost nothing if and when they try to sell it.

(2) Cheap ass broke person buys a $329, extremely high quality, superior Apple iPad Mini. They will have to live with a wonderful, first class experience over the lifetime of their tablet and after a year or two, their superior Apple product will still command a respectable price on the used market, as high quality Apple products are always in high demand. Cheap ass broke person #2 will end up with more money in their pocket than cheap ass broke person #1 who thought that they were being smart and saving a couple of dollars by buying the inferior, cheaper product.

That's true, but I kind of doubt that the kind of person who is going to whine about a $329 price for a tablet is the kind of person who can afford to buy a single share of AAPL. At the moment, one share costs $ 595.32,which is what AAPL closed at today.

I noticed that one too! Amazon are basically trying to put down the iPad mini's screen size as it's not even 720p resolution.

I think that's fair. It's really NOT HD resolution. I'm sure it looks just fine, but downscaling 1080 to fit the screen isn't the same as displaying pixel-for-pixel. I'd be annoyed if a manufacturer claimed a 1024x768 screen is "HD" and I'm sure people here would jump all over anyone who did.

Originally Posted by v5v
I'd be annoyed if a manufacturer claimed a 1024x768 screen is "HD" and I'm sure people here would jump all over anyone who did.

I don't really consider 720 to be "HD" anymore, anyway. If 1080 is "full HD", then 2k must be "fuller HD", 4k must be "minsterfuller HD", and Super Hi-Vision must be "buckminsterfuller HD". If 720 is HD, so is 481.

I think that's fair. It's really NOT HD resolution. I'm sure it looks just fine, but downscaling 1080 to fit the screen isn't the same as displaying pixel-for-pixel. I'd be annoyed if a manufacturer claimed a 1024x768 screen is "HD" and I'm sure people here would jump all over anyone who did.

Yeah, it's not simple. I don't call it a lie, just chucking out any subtleties and fine distinctions, which is par for the course in advertising.

The Amazon ad wording seemed to imply it couldn't play HD files. It can't display all of the detail, but it's still considerably better detail than 480p, in large part due to oversampling. But if I was trying to make the most of my gigabytes, then I might load in the SD version of the file and call it good.Edited by JeffDM - 10/31/12 at 2:26pm

Don't you mean they got a notice from Apple's lawyers that they had 24 hours to revise or remove the ad or be sued underestimate false advertising laws. Same as what happened with Microsoft when they continued to air an ad that showed an invalid price for a MacBook a month after the price change took effect

Meanwhile, Jeff Bezos vows to put 3 speakers into the next Amazon Kindle Fire. Three. Because that's how the unimaginative tech industry "competes."

Not only a third speaker, but he promises to keep giving the Kindle even more .... more bezel! Further cementing it's place as the tablet with much more bezel for much less. "How'd you like 'dem apples, Apple?" Bezos said defiantly. Amazon leading the industry in bezel innovation.

I don't see how it helps to have stereo speakers that are placed well within the width of my ears. For reflecting off walls so I can get the desired effect?

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Originally Posted by charlituna

Amazon discovered?
Don't you mean they got a notice from Apple's lawyers that they had 24 hours to revise or remove the ad or be sued underestimate false advertising laws. Same as what happened with Microsoft when they continued to air an ad that showed an invalid price for a MacBook a month after the price change took effect

Someone in the legal department had to discover the words Apple's department had written to them.

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I think that's fair. It's really NOT HD resolution. I'm sure it looks just fine, but downscaling 1080 to fit the screen isn't the same as displaying pixel-for-pixel. I'd be annoyed if a manufacturer claimed a 1024x768 screen is "HD" and I'm sure people here would jump all over anyone who did.

That may be true, but that's not what Amazon said. They said that you can't watch HD movies (note that it's next to 'Watch HD Movies and TV" for context. More importantly, they state that the Mini is "standard definition". Since they're making claims about HD, this is incorrect. The Mini will easily play 480p movies - which is classified as enhanced definition, not standard definition.

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Meanwhile, Jeff Bezos vows to put 3 speakers into the next Amazon Kindle Fire. Three. Because that's how the unimaginative tech industry "competes."

Then Samsung will follow up with a 5 speaker system. One in each corner with a sub-wofer in the center back (which won't get counted for the thickness of the device). They'll call it Hi-Five™ and no one will care.

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Not only a third speaker, but he promises to keep giving the Kindle even more .... more bezel! Further cementing it's place as the tablet with much more bezel for much less. "How'd you like 'dem apples, Apple?" Bezos said defiantly. Amazon leading the industry in bezel innovation.

True, they neglected to mention the larger bezel around the screen, or dead glass. More dead glass than the iPad Mini! The size of a larger tablet without the benefits!

Then Samsung will follow up with a 5 speaker system. One in each corner with a sub-wofer in the center back (which won't get counted for the thickness of the device). They'll call it Hi-Five™ and no one will care.

Actually, "built-in speaker" would be listed 5 times on the features checklist, to help pad it out.

ROFL... only when they are sold as boxed speakers.., (commonly known are bookshelf speakers)
and your floor standing ones are Triple stereo speakers... echo...echo....echo...
and when You get to the superduper gigantic floorstanding speakers... QUADRUPLE STEREO SPEAKERS!!!!... /sarcasm Reverberating Canyon echo....echo...echo...

You guys really couldn't figure out what they meant? "Dual stereo speakers" meant there are two speakers running in stereo output. You could potentially have "dual" (two) speakers that run a mono audio output, they just worded it oddly.

That may be true, but that's not what Amazon said. They said that you can't watch HD movies (note that it's next to 'Watch HD Movies and TV" for context. More importantly, they state that the Mini is "standard definition". Since they're making claims about HD, this is incorrect. The Mini will easily play 480p movies - which is classified as enhanced definition, not standard definition.

Respectfully, this is the first time I've ever seen the phrase "Enhanced Definition" and I work in broadcast. Technically p *IS* slightly more D than i, but in the circles I travel it's just considered another form of SD.

(1) Cheap ass broke person buys a $200, low quality Android tablet. They will have to live with a sub-par, frustrating experience over the lifetime of their tablet and after a year or two, their tablet will be worth almost nothing if and when they try to sell it.

(2) Cheap ass broke person buys a $329, extremely high quality, superior Apple iPad Mini. They will have to live with a wonderful, first class experience over the lifetime of their tablet and after a year or two, their superior Apple product will still command a respectable price on the used market, as high quality Apple products are always in high demand. Cheap ass broke person #2 will end up with more money in their pocket than cheap ass broke person #1 who thought that they were being smart and saving a couple of dollars by buying the inferior, cheaper product.

(3) Cheap ass broke person buys a $329, extremely high quality, superior Apple iPad Mini. A year later, Apple releases an A6X version so they upgrade, losing $100. The year after that, Apple releases a retina version so they upgrade, losing $100. Year 3, Apple releases a thinner, lighter IZGO version so they upgrade losing $100.

(3) Cheap ass broke person buys a $329, extremely high quality, superior Apple iPad Mini. A year later, Apple releases an A6X version so they upgrade, losing $100. The year after that, Apple releases a retina version so they upgrade, losing $100. Year 3, Apple releases a thinner, lighter IZGO version so they upgrade losing $100.

So who's ahead after 3 years?

I'd say Apple will be ahead after 3 years than some cheap ass broke person. In fact, lets take 1 hour of Apple's net profits compared to a cheap ass broke person entire life's earnings and Apple will still be ahead.

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Respectfully, this is the first time I've ever seen the phrase "Enhanced Definition" and I work in broadcast. Technically p *IS* slightly more D than i, but in the circles I travel it's just considered another form of SD.

Really? I guess you never saw a TV ad during the years they were working their way up to actually having 1080 x 1920 physical pixels on the screen. (I was a late adopter, because that was a prerequisite for me.)

The FTC wouldn't allow the manufacturers to call any TV with less than 720 lines vertical resolution "High" Definition, so they invented the term "Enhanced" Definition. The FTC would let them use that for any TV with more than 307,200 pixels—including "Fox Widescreen" at 480 x 853.

Respectfully, this is the first time I've ever seen the phrase "Enhanced Definition" and I work in broadcast. Technically p *IS* slightly more D than i, but in the circles I travel it's just considered another form of SD.

(3) Cheap ass broke person buys a $329, extremely high quality, superior Apple iPad Mini. A year later, Apple releases an A6X version so they upgrade, losing $100. The year after that, Apple releases a retina version so they upgrade, losing $100. Year 3, Apple releases a thinner, lighter IZGO version so they upgrade losing $100.

So who's ahead after 3 years?

That would depend on how much you value having the latest product. Since you're upgrading every year, obviously, that's of some value.

In any event, it's ridiculous to compare someone who buys three brand new iPads to a person who buys one low end Android tablet and holds onto it for 3 years.

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Originally Posted by jragosta
That would depend on how much you value having the latest product. Since you're upgrading every year, obviously, that's of some value.
In any event, it's ridiculous to compare someone who buys three brand new iPads to a person who buys one low end Android tablet and holds onto it for 3 years.

You're talking to this troll as if it were an honest post. He and all the other Fandroids have a set agenda and there's no deflecting them from it. If Apple brings out a new version of some product and it doesn't have a replicator and antigravity, it's: "Same old, same old! Apple should be ashamed bringing out a new product without 'features' A, B, C,...etc., which Android has had since 37 B.C."

If Apple brings out a product that's noticeably improved, it's: "The arrogance of Apple bringing out a product that makes the ones people bought last year less than the latest!"

Of course, the weekly spate of "new" Android devices with "features" the nerderati have been howling for, and bragging about them all over the techblogosphere, that doesn't make any old Android devices obsolete.....

I'd say Apple will be ahead after 3 years than some cheap ass broke person. In fact, lets take 1 hour of Apple's net profits compared to a cheap ass broke person entire life's earnings and Apple will still be ahead.

Sure Apple will be ahead after 3 years, but it's at the expense of the people that upgrade every year.

Apple just loves the people that stay on the upgrade treadmill. That's how they can afford to pay a retired guy $2mil a month!

No matter what type of media...movies, music, books, photos and web pages

look better and sound better on the Kindle Fire HD and HDX than any iPad