He always does.. LOL And everything is either a sundog, or lensflare and what not. I'd like to sit down with Postman at a bar and have a good old fashioned friendly argument after a few dozen drinks. You up for it ? hahahha

No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

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No one deserves privileges, we ALL deserve rights! A privilege means that some one is better than you. Which is NOT CORRECT. We ALL breath the same air, we ALL share the same Earth. ONLY Brotherhood and Unity

He always does.. LOL And everything is either a sundog, or lensflare and what not. I'd like to sit down with Postman at a bar and have a good old fashioned friendly argument after a few dozen drinks. You up for it ? hahahha

Quoting: MG-42

this new shwabenland thing is about as highly interesting as are hidden past gets. its not ancient!

During WW2, both the Nazis and Japanese were known to be conducting secret UFO reverse-engineering programs scattered and hidden worldwide from Antarctica all the way to the Pacific Islands. In fact as early as 1935 to 1941, the Japanese UFO program which was ran by the Kempei-Tai (Secret Police), was moved from Japanese soil overseas to a small island in the Pacific named "Truk Lagoon" which is now part of an area know to the world as Micronesia. Natives of this island claim that they saw unusual shaped flying "canoes" being flown around the islands by Japanese. However, according to these natives who witnessed the crafts being flown, the crafts regularly crashed into the lagoon where they were retreived by divers and Japanese ships.

During WW2, both the Nazis and Japanese were known to be conducting secret UFO reverse-engineering programs scattered and hidden worldwide from Antarctica all the way to the Pacific Islands. In fact as early as 1935 to 1941, the Japanese UFO program which was ran by the Kempei-Tai (Secret Police), was moved from Japanese soil overseas to a small island in the Pacific named "Truk Lagoon" which is now part of an area know to the world as Micronesia. Natives of this island claim that they saw unusual shaped flying "canoes" being flown around the islands by Japanese. However, according to these natives who witnessed the crafts being flown, the crafts regularly crashed into the lagoon where they were retreived by divers and Japanese ships.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1038910

cool. never heard the japs were part of this. its not surprising though.

I've read and listened many different things on this subject and I've come to the conclusion that there was something going on with this entire matter.

What I find interesting is how right after WWII was when we started seeing the first UFO's over America. I've watched enough video now to have a pretty good idea that the Nazi's were messing around with anti-gravitational devices where mercury was placed in some sort of container and vibrated to very high frequencies using electricity. It sounds rather far fetched but it's pretty coincidental to see how right after WWII our space and defense forces and craft seemed to take a huge leap forward in progress.

Good post.

Quoting: Question EVERYTHING 333112

You are correct, the Nazis where working with anti-gravity rotating mercury and making objects (Like the Nazi Bell) levitate. And I believe this because the Aurora craft which is supposed to have a person or crew that is situated in a cabin that is surrounded in a ring of mercury under pressure and rotating at a certain speed. This negates the mass of the object or cabin in the center of the ring making the craft do things that are against aerodynamics. I've always thought that Angular momentum or rotation (gyroscope etc.) would be the key to anti-gravity. Have any of you held a spinning disk drive, try to move it against the spin of the plates inside the structure and what do you feel? You feel a weird sensation of it being light and heavy at the same time. This is the sense of mass being reduced somewhate.

Anti-Gravity will come about in the near future, it's just a matter of time before more have figured out the secret without being shut up by the govt.

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Lets look at one scientist who worked with the NAZI FOO FIGHTER PROGRAM,V1,2 ROCKER PROGRAM and ME163-262 PROGRAM

Werner Von Braun

Does this name sound obvious?

Werner Von Braun was the person who knew lots of things that the Nazis were up to in there Anti Gravitational program and later on,he worked in NASA,does it sound obvious that jet propulsion,rockets and etc came from the Nazis,

Quoting: S3/6

I think Doc Brown as actually a VonBraun. Did the Nazi's have a Delorean? Marty McFly is of Irish decent. Didn't some Irish conspire with the Nazi's? What about the lone pine? We are all doomed.

The only sources of information on the subject(critical facts, not banalities like Highjump etc.)are in Russian. No translations exists. This is a brief summary of events:

+ The first German nuclear bomb (Object Loki) was tested in Byelorussia, near the town of Gomel, on 3 March 1944, 11:00 h. Berlin time. One of the indirect evidences of that is the transfer of 3 SS Divisions in the beginning of 1944 near otherwise insignificant Gomel - one police and two armoured. The Third Reich became the first nuclear state. After the Chernobyl incident, measurements detected an old radiation level - namely from 1944 near Gomel. The Soviet scientists then, allthough extremely puzzled, preferred to forget.

+ The first serial German nuclear charge was made in December 1944, another 2 - in January 1945, another 4 - in February, and one in March 1945. 10 charges were made till the end (so to say) of WWII in Europe. + The German nuclear arsenal had been deployed in Ruhr, within Special SS batalion No.244. Its existence was the primary reason for the battle of the Ardennes and for the "suicide" of feldmarschall Model. The commander of SS batallion No.244 - Adolph Eule, was directly responsible to Himmler.

+ The first German battle nuclear strike, was the bombing of the American transatlantic convoy LW-143 on 18 March 1945. The bomb was dropped by a heavy German Ju-390 bomber. The convoy included the light aircraft carrier "Sekvoya", commissioned in the USN only 5 months earlier, 1 light cruiser, 7 minelayers, 10 other anti-submarine ships and 30 cargo vessels. The entire convoy was turned into ashes. The USN dispatched a fleet, at the end of March 1945, to sink the incinerated remains of the convoy, covering the facts and reporting the loss as due to German submarine attack. Never have German submarines been able to inflict such damages and never have their capains reported being there on 18 March 1945 or attacked anything.

+ It was impossible for the Germans to achieve significant military goals with 10 nuclear charges. They had other grand plans, which did not include more war. By all means the Germans could have attacked London, New York, Moskow etc. – an enormous political and military risk. Some German leaders were already imaginig themselves as a part of the allies’ plans to face the Soviet threat together. Bormann had instructions to transfer anything of value to Antarctica, Himmler was not even invited and wanted to divert assets for himself and trade them with the allies. It is not even certain that Himmler poisoned himself in the fall of 1945 – the British destroyed all evidence. But it is certain that Himmler traded 3 German bombs and arranged for the transfer to the US of nuclear materials as well as charge detonators which the US was entirely unable to construct. To the surprise of Churchill and Truman, Stalin did not even blink at their threat in Potsdam, when they informed him of posessing a nuclear weapon – in fact the German bombs. The Manhattan project was a failure - it was technically absurd to carry out such an engineering process within 2.5 years. The Americans had to steal knowledge which they did by means of their “Alsos” group operating in Europe. With the available German bombs and technology transfer, the Americans managed to produce their first test-ready bomb in the fall of 1946 and tested it in Texas. The first American bombs joined the US arsenals in mid 1947. The USSR got their bomb ready in 1949.

+ Germany did not have 3 Ju-390 as historians claim, but 30. The Ju and FW TA-400 were flying cargo flights to Antarctica on a regualr basis. The exodus of the largest and of the most modern German U-boots took place from 1 to 5 May 1945 at a rate of 30 per day. The submarines were sent disarmed in order to reduce the risk of incidents. All 150 submarines arrived intact in Antarctica. One of them - "Westfalen" was later used to launch, as a warning, an A4 missile against New York on 24 February 1947. Causualties were 56 people and a few buildings were destoyed. The US authorities lied that the explosion was caused by an American secret missile,despite the fact that the missile came from the direction of the ocean. The New York missile strike coincided with operation Hijump. It was precisely on 15 February 1947, that one of Byrd's pilots first noticed German mining facilities in Antarctica. Byrd’s forces were immediately attacked by the Antarctic Luftwaffe.

+ In 1971 one of the USSR spy satellites, monitoring Antarctica, first spotted an unusual rectangular floating object of white color. The further series of photos from 1972 clearly convinced the Soviet services that the object was not an iceberg. It was leaving a trail in the water and strange objects were visible on its surface. Near the floating object was visible another object seeming to just have taken off. The Soviets thought these were American secret projects. They sent two large reconnaissance planes in 1972, only to confirm that the white aircraft carrier did not match any of the types used by the US. Later on, they would know of the secret German aircraft carrier “Richthoffen”. For some unknown reason, the French services also became interested, sending in October 1973 an expedition led by Jacques-Yves Cousteau. Cousteau found and witnessed many things, he lost a few men in the caves of Antarctica, and he found the white aircraft carrier already sunk near the coast of Antarctica. He lost 16 divers trying to get closer. Some unknown force was killing his divers and cutting their steel ropes. Following that incident the French sent a fleet, but the sunk carier was no longer there. They got a warning from Washington not to stick their noses.

+ Soviet satellites spoted many times various objects, looking like submarines, along the coastline of Antarctica. Some had been photographed as half emerged from underwater caves. The white aircraft carrier was never photographed anymore.

+ Soviet expeditions were sent in 1977 and in 1979 when they also brought 3 submarines. The giant nuclear submarine could not enter the caves. The smaller diesel-electric one did it amidst strange lights comming from the bottom of the lake inside a big cavern. Tunnels were found, the dead men of Cousteau’s team were found, but the further obstacles in the tunnels were unsurmountable. Eventuallly the sub got an accident – without touching any hard surface, it was so brutally shaken that the crew got fractures everywhere. All secret equipment was taken off and the sub was abandonned. It was pointless to go that way.

+ In 1983 a Soviet expedition found an anicent town in deep Antarctica. The ancient runic inscriptions were deciphered by the Russians in the 90s. The name of the town was Okmaron.

+ The US has been involved in secret technology trade with the Fourth Reich since decades. It does not mean that the Fourth Reich is somehow friendly to the US though. They are not the same people. As a matter of fact, the Fourth Reich is not willing to share too much with evil powers. The US now seems to be doing a dirty job for other powers from which even the Reich preferred to distance itself. There are other contacts now. Japan also owes its spectacular technological advancement to previous contacts with the Germans. Even inside the German WW2 establishment, there was a rivalry between the Antarctic and the Tibetan groups. Today’s Germany is completely out of that game. The Russians catch up in their own way. Unlike the US, the Russians enjoy a favourable attitude by the Antarctic Reich, perhpas due to the special benevolent attitude of even more superior powers there. Not all though. Antarctica is a place of unknown forces. The Russians remain suspicious. They suffered casualties in 1961 when trying to reach the South Pole from the Mirnyi station. They reported being attacked by something definitely not human – something conscious but of rather electric nature probably coming from the earth’s radiation belt. The same experience was reported by the Americans in 1962 when they tried to reach the South Pole from the Midway Station and had to be all hospitalized with mental illness. Since then, attempts to reach the South Pole on the ground have been cancelled. The pole is not a pole, but a circle. Peary and Amundsen figured out they were there, but they were on the circle. Their instruments showed as if they were on the geometric pole. And in such severe atmospheric conditions, they were neither eager, nor capable of double-checking their location with astronomy. And nobody is welcome there.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 764883

Thanks! Any English web addy's for some of this?

"We shall no longer hang on to the tails of public opinion, or to a non-existent authority, on matters utterly unknown and strange. We shall gradually become experts ourselves in the mastery of the knowledge of the future." ~ Wilhelm Reich

[link to www.stevequayle.com] QUOTE SNIPOn June 1934 VICTOR SCHAUBERGER was invited by Hitler and other members of VRIL society, to work with them to develop a flying machine that could fly and jump the limits of solar system. At its book "The Spear of Destiny", TREVOR RAVENSCROFT, describes "...with twenty years age Hitler was already a adept of the concealed and the mysterious in trying amount to right through drugs, higher consciousness estates..."; In those days that secret society Hitler, created a special group designated for SS "SCHWARZE SONNE" (Black Sun) of which left emissaries for Tibete, with some frequency whose primordial subject was it of they know the techniques of the meditation for communication with extraterrestrial entities.

This fact came to confirm when Soviet soldiers found in Berlin on April 25, 1945 the bodies of 6 monks of Tibet, in circle.Contained this small parentesis, retake.

VICTOR SCHAUBERGER together with the Dr. SCHUMANN already, previously referred, they got in the ends of that year of 1934 has just built a new object in disk form, the one that they designated for RFZ 2 whose operation beginning was already previously identical to the tested but improved. Using a propeller VRIL (also known by SSM-L, that is Schumann SM-Levitator) the machine, with 5 diameter meters, it generated a electromagnetic field that moved easily, alternating of color every time that its speed oscillated.SNIP END QUOTE

"We shall no longer hang on to the tails of public opinion, or to a non-existent authority, on matters utterly unknown and strange. We shall gradually become experts ourselves in the mastery of the knowledge of the future." ~ Wilhelm Reich

In 1947 Secretary of the Navy James Forrestal sent a naval task force to Antarctic including Admiral Nimitz, Admiral Krusen and Admiral Byrd, called "Operation Highjump". It was touted to be an expedition to find "coal deposits" and other valuable resources, but in actuality they were trying to find the underground base of the nazis (aryans) in Neuschwabenlandt. The nazis had done a very detailed study of Antarctic and were alleged to have built an underground base there. In this regard however, the aryans have had an underground under the ice habitation in Antarctic for more than a million years. The task force of OVER 40 SHIPS, included the flagship "Mount Olympus", the aircraft carrier "Philipine Sea", the seaplane tender "Pine Sea", the submarine "Senate", the destroyer "Bronson", the ice breaker "Northwind", and other tanker and supply ships. An armed contingent of 1400 sailors, and three dog sled teams were also on board. The expedition was filmed by the Navy and brought to Hollywood to be made into a commercial film called "The Secret Land". It was narrated by Hollywood actor Robert Montgomery (Naval reserve Officer) . There were three divisions of Operation High Jump: one land group with tractors, explosives, and plenty of equipment to refurbish "Little America", and make an airstrip to land the six R-4D's (DC-3's), and two seaplane groups. The R4-D's were fitted with jet-assist takeoff bottles (JATO) in order to takeoff from the short runway of the aircraft carrier "Philipine Sea". They also were fitted with large skis for landing on the ice field prepared for them. The skis were specially fitted at three inches above the surface of the carrier deck. When landing on the ice at "Little America" the three inches of tire in contact with the snow and ice provided just enough and not too much drag for a smooth landing. Admiral Byrd's team of six R4-D's were fitted with the super secret "Trimetricon" spy cameras and each plane was trailing a magnetometer. They flew over as much of the continent as they could in the short three month "summer" period, mapping and recording magnetic data. Magnetometers show anomalies in the Earth's magnetism, i.e. if there is a "hollow" place under the surface ice or ground, it will show up on the meter. On the last of many "mapping" flights where all six planes went out, each on certain pre-ordained paths to film and "measure" with magnetometers, Admiral Byrd's plane returned THREE HOURS LATE. It was stated that he had "lost an engine" and had had to throw everything overboard except the films themselves and the results of magnetometer readings in order to maintain altitude long enough to return to Little America. This is most certainly the time when he met with representatives of the aryans and a contingent of nazis. The task force came steaming back with their data which then became classified "top secret". Secretary of the Navy James Forrestal retired and started to "talk". He was put in Bethesda Naval Hospital psychiatric ward where he was prevented from seeing or talking to anyone, including his wife! after a short while he was thrown out the window while trying to hang himself with a bedsheet. It was ruled a suicide, case closed. He was telling people about the underground aryan base

The only sources of information on the subject(critical facts, not banalities like Highjump etc.)are in Russian. No translations exists. This is a brief summary of events:

+ The first German nuclear bomb (Object Loki) was tested in Byelorussia, near the town of Gomel, on 3 March 1944, 11:00 h. Berlin time. One of the indirect evidences of that is the transfer of 3 SS Divisions in the beginning of 1944 near otherwise insignificant Gomel - one police and two armoured. The Third Reich became the first nuclear state. After the Chernobyl incident, measurements detected an old radiation level - namely from 1944 near Gomel. The Soviet scientists then, allthough extremely puzzled, preferred to forget.

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Quoting: Anonymous Coward 764883

That post was most interesting. I would like to know more about the source book or documents etc. Was there more that you didn't translate that I/we could see.

thanks for your time

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