One Giant who’s batting 1.000 on the trip, plus a few thoughts on Reyes/Tejada, etc.

One of the tougher parts of a PR official’s job is to protect the players when a questionable official scoring decision might impact their statistics. I’ve covered beats with many different personalities. I’ve seen it handled many ways, from polite to pugnacious.

Giants PR man Jim Moorehead could best be described with another “p” adjective: persistent.

And he’s batting 1.000 on this trip.

On Saturday in Washington, Buster Posey admitted he screwed up and forgotten he’d called a curveball from Matt Cain, which led to a wild pitch. Posey asked if it could be changed to a passed ball, thus making one of Cain’s runs unearned. Moorehead approached the official scorer the next day and successfully lobbied for the change.

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Then came Monday, and Miguel Tejada’s misplay of Wilson Ramos’ grounder with two out that opened the door for the only two runs of the game in the Nats’ 2-0 victory over Madison Bumgarner. The scorer gave Ramos a hit, which everyone in the press box pretty much agreed was an egregious call. The ball hit Tejada’s glove. It didn’t take a bad hop. It was just a step to his left. Moorehead made several trips to the other side of the press box, and another visit after the game, just trying to convince the scorer to review the replay one more time, solicit opinions from others, or be open to changing it if Tejada admitted after the game that it was a play he should’ve made in his sleep. (In this case, Moorehead was looking to protect Bumgarner’s ERA and make his two runs unearned, which they ought to have been.)

The scorer did talk to others in the box, perhaps realized his view was out of line, and despite many protestations over the course of the evening, he eventually made the change.

Now let’s move ahead to last night at Citi Field. With a runner at third base, Cody Ross hit a grounder to third baseman David Wright. After fielding it, Wright looked toward third base and started to lunge in that direction. But he realized he was too far away and he wouldn’t beat the runner back to the base. Nor would throwing home work, because there was nobody to cover third to create a rundown. By the time he realized his miscalculation, he was too late to make a throw to force Ross at first base.

It was scored a fielder’s choice, not a hit. That was the right call, I thought. I even joked with Moorehead, saying he’s been so unbelievably on fire this trip, that he’d get the rule book out and find a way to get Ross a hit out of the deal.

Well, as any good PR official would, Moorehead has a rulebook in his briefcase. And actually, the book states very clearly that a hitter shall not be deprived of a hit if the fielder feints or motions toward another base without actually making a throw. I had never heard that one before. But it described the situation closely enough.

And so Ross got a hit. I figured out on the spot that it raised Ross’s average from .179 to .205.

Later in the game, the Mets intentionally walked Nate Schierholtz to pitch to Ross. Moorehead provided the line of the night.

“Well,” he said, “they must not realize he’s hitting over .200 now.”

We relayed that story to Ross after the game. He absolutely loved it.

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I should mention that the Tejada error situation has no bearing on him personally. It’s not like the Giants or Moorehead has an axe to grind against him because he’s struggling. They would have lobbied on Tejada’s behalf, too, if he had hit that ball to Wright instead of Ross.

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Let’s address this Jose Reyes trade speculation head on:

The Giants are not talking seriously to the Mets about a trade. If any conversations have happened at all, it’s nothing more than tire kicking. “If the time comes, keep us in the loop.” That sort of thing.

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There will be much interest in Reyes if the Mets make him available nearer to the July 31 trade deadline. But he won’t be traded now, a week from now or probably even a month from now. So adjust your expectations accordingly.

That’s easier said than done, I realize — especially after the respective games that Tejada and Reyes had last night. Reyes reached base in all six of his plate appearances, and while his play at shortstop was routine, it also looked stunningly quick and athletic to anyone who has watched the Giants all season.

And Tejada was 0 for 5, popping up in the ninth with the infield in and the go-ahead run at third base. It was probably his worst at-bat of the season, which is saying something.

The Giants will have another third baseman on Tuesday when Mark DeRosa comes off the DL. I’m sure they will be happy to have another option at the position.

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It’s also worth noting that Reyes is not going to come cheap. He will have many suitors if the Mets make him available. And he’ll be a big-ticket free agent after the season, so we can weigh all the fun of shredding what’s left in the Giants system for a player who has no greater guarantee than being a three-month rental. But we haven’t reached that point yet, so let’s hold off on all that fun for now.

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Congratulations to Francisco Liriano on his no-hitter. I just wish it had come down to A.J. Pierzynski in the ninth. Woulda been a heck of a story for Giants fans.

I’ll say this: The hand wringing must feel a lot different when you’ve got a World Series ring on one finger.

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Until Aubrey Huff’s game winner in the 10th last night, the Giants had two home runs in eight games on the trip. They belonged to Eli Whiteside and Nate Schierholtz.

That exacta would’ve paid you somewhere between $14,000 and the GDP of Poland, I think.

Andrew Baggarly

Andrew Baggarly has documented the most eventful era in San Francisco Giants baseball history, having covered the team since 2004 for th​ree major media outlets including the San Jose Mercury News and the Oakland Tribune​. This is his 20th season as a baseball writer.
​Baggarly is the author of the bestselling book, A Band of Misfits: Tales of the 2010 San Francisco Giants, and the newly published Giant Splash: Bondsian Blasts, World Series Parades and Other Thrilling Moments By the Bay. Baggarly’s other notable life accomplishments include running as the Bratwurst in the Milwaukee Sausage Race and becoming a three-time Jeopardy! champion.

I feel like every Tejada at bat is considered, “his worst at bat of the season.”

fumble

I see Brett Pill played 2nd base yesterday and is hitting .349. Hmm.

Mike Souza

If Tejada is starting today I am gonna be a very, very unhappy man! Thanks for the update Baggs, we all appreciate it!

DesertGiantFan

Great post Baggs. Nice call on the Whiteside/Schierholz exacta! Giants don’t look like WS champs right now, but this is a marathon not a sprint and this team may indeed look much different in September.

johnfromnj

Gotta admit that Fontenot is performing better at bat and in the field so far than I figured he would. When they signed him in the off-season I wasn’t sure why. Getting my answer on this road trip.

Andy, about a replacement for Tejada at 3B when DeRosa returns, is that a hint that Fontenot might be starting at SS for a while longer and that Tejada would sit and think? I was curious why they are playing Fontenot at SS and moving Tejada to 3B, with Sandoval out, since Bochy usually likes to let the starters stay in their usual spot, particularly since Fontenot has played a lot more 3B than SS previously in his career.

And thank you for discussing Reyes’ situation, I’m tired of fans slobbering over that rumor.

I don’t see why people are so excited over it. Getting him would be horrible, he would only guarantee that we make the playoffs, it would not ensure a repeat. Meanwhile we have to give up a potential Ace in Wheeler plus other prospects and, more importantly to me, it would eat up so much future budget if we signed him that we would be forced to let go of either Lincecum or Cain (probably Lincecum) when they become free agents. These people don’t realize the budget problems he would cause in the future.

Even if he would guarantee a World Series repeat, without Lincecum (more probable than losing Cain) and Wheeler in the future, we forego the higher probability of winning World Series throughout the rest of this decade, the budget would be a time bomb waiting to explode, if we were to get Reyes.

I don’t know why people get like this, sure the offense sucks, that is what happens when a team loses their leadoff sparkplug (Torres) plus a middle of lineup order hitter (Sandoval), plus the other two middle of lineup hitters (Huff and Posey) aren’t hitting like middles. It is also small samples. Making a big trade like that only makes the situation worse in the long run.

The Giants are set up pretty well right now. Pitching rotation so good that they can win with a crappy offense, and go all the way with an average one. And with Wheeler, and maybe Surkamp, looking to add to our riches in 2-3 years, this and Neukom’s money can make this great era last to the end of this decade, which could be known as the Decade of the Giants if the pitching stays healthy.

And the offense was functioning well until this road trip, so people just want to throw that great situation (lose Lincecum and Wheeler plus more) out of the window in a panic move after a handful of games? People should grow a pair and understand teams will go through ups and downs offensively and defensively.

This is basically the same team as last year, have a little faith in the guys who brought us our World Championship. Believe in them, give a little patience, and I think we will be rewarded by the end of the season

TheBandwagonFiddler

Wow…what a band of misfits!

To all of you tortured souls out there….this is the grind of a team trying to find a way. Shake the Yahtzee dice and give us a roller coaster ride.

If you want to see straight win after win, go watch replays of the 98-00 Yankees. This is a real team in the midst of a work in progress.

Want to give up on Te-nada? Fine. But keep faith in the season…the fog hasn’t even started rolling in on the bay yet.

The Relaxer

Wheeler is no sure thing. If you can land a Jose Reyes-caliber player for the “potential” of Wheeler, you do that trade every day.

kevin

i AGREE RELAXER

BigAppleBear

I think we should sit Tejada as soon as we have a chance to. He’ll start cranking some Renteria-like mojo when the time is right (the stretch run). Until then, let’s hope DeRosa can buckle down and become the great utility man we paid for in 2010.

Good to have you back from the book tour, Baggs.

GoGiants24

Obsessive: Great post, but I have to respectively disagree with you. If Reyes can stay healthy, he’s a differenece-maker. I think (like most fans of most teams) we tend to overvalue prospects. There’s no way of knowing if Wheeler will be the next big ace, but if you remember, people were losing their minds when the Giants made the Alderson-for-Freddy Sanchez trade. Alderson was considered a prospect that was almost at Bumgarner level, and he’s struggling in Double-A, while Freddy was a proven hitter and 2B.

The Giants seem to have a wealth of pitching prospects in the pipeline. If it’d cost Wheeler (plus some lesser-known prospects) to get Reyes, and if (that’s a huge “if”) they can sign Reyes, I think it’s worth it.

Meanwhile, Tejada needs to be on the bench, period. I’d rather that Boch play Rholinger until DeRosa is back. The pop-up in the 9th made me want to break my TV.

PNWGiantsfan

I say keep Fontenot at SS. AT LEAST ’till Panda gets back.

Stalky

Living in LI, I watch alot of Mets games. I’m not quite sold on Reyes as the missing piece for any middle infield woes. He’s quick, has a decent bat and at times looks like a world beater. However, he’s moody and he shuts off sometimes during games. His public whine about batting lead off or not last season, I thought, was telling about his professional demeanor. Locally, there is some concern whether he has the emotional maturity to reach his potential. And it is this potential which someone will pay for, either through prospects via trade or end of the season FA market. Agreed that prospects are just that, but Reyes has been in the league 8 years and has not established his (supposed) perennial All Star status.

ClutchUp

Great POST Mr. Andy Baggs! Morehead is a class act. I met him and hers when they resided in San Mateo California.

***Would Thomas Neal and Wheeler “bring” Reyes?

Btw, where is Lastings Milledge these days…me thinks he and Reyes had the same hair designer. 🙂

The Tejada error the other night reminded me of whomever played third base for Atlanta vs. SF last season in “Round One”….Who was that for the Braves?

ViewReserved231

Reyes’s maturity would be straightened out quickly with the group in the SF clubhouse. Stalky above knows first hand what Reyes’s downside is. He is perfect for the SF club because he would (lol) fit right in!!!
Half the fan base would love him, the other half would despise him per this Blog site. Whenever a player around the league wants to “showup” and play like Reyes…when he’s not moody, the fan base gets intoxicated with the downside of said player. When he’s in the mood Reyes plays like his hairs on fire, beating out hits from the left side or slashing balls into the gaps or either corner and from the right side flairing the ball over the infield. When on first he’s a big threat and going first to third he’s exciting.

I’d say 51% are still not sold. Comcast Sports says it might take Wheeler + Neal. Wheeler’s pumping 95-95…but San Jose is San Jose. I saw Alderson pitch well there also.

Is that Alderson related to Sandy Alderson? If so, any hard feelings that we traded him?

Dan

I agree more with obsessive in post 6 — let’s not fall in love with Jose Reyes to the detriment of keeping the core pitching excellence in tact. We can win with an average shortstop. So often in baseball, talent and strong seasons emerge from unlikely places. Also, so often in baseball, going out and getting a guy at the absolute peak of his market value turns out to be folly.

Jah

@Gogiants24- I think you’re absolutely right that we often overvalue prospects that are no sure thing. But I think there’s the issue that no other prospect other than wheeler has the potential and quality stuff of a front of the rotation kind of guy. That’d leave Surkamp and not much else as our best prospect in the farm. Are there other guys you’re referring to who are in the pipeline?

The big reservation is because we’ve had our best pitchers move up the majors the past few years, it’s left us dry in the farm.

Rod

My son put me on to the blog. I’m glad he did. Good stuff before and after the fact. It’s adding to my experience following the Giants from Munich. Steve, if you read this, thanks.

Mike Souza

@ViewReserved231- Copmment#17- Yeah, because the GIANTS clubhouse guys have been acting so mature as of late huh? HaHa. Maybe they can take Reyes to a hockey game? The clubhouse chemistry fluff is a joke! You know why the GIANTS had a great clubhouse in 2010? Because they won. If they would have been a losing team who would have talked abou that great clubhouse? Many winning teams have had players who hated each other. The GIANTS have many known partiers, drinkers & recreational drug users on their team, So let’s stop with all the these guys are so great & have a positive influence on everybody talk.

Mo P

Giants finally come up with a decent win, and Baggs follows with a good post…

sign of good things to come?

Mike Souza

And to be clear I am not condoning or condeming what they do off the field. I am just stating facts that it does occur as it does on 99.9% of pro teams. Some more than others.

fredo

i don’t want to give up Wheeler + Neal for 4 months of Reyes and since he’s a Scott Boras client there’s a good chance he’s gonna want big money(Crawford/Werth) in the offseason and prob won’t give any home team discount so you prob looking at $18 mil/year or more and 7+ years….consider his injury history and i say no thanks…

and other teams will prob offer more anyway…

ViewReserved231

at Souza…okay. Either winning precedes chemistry or the other way around, however now that the debacle at the Ice Rink is possible over, lets give it a small chance. Bando and his A’s group did hate each other but there was team chemistry on the field. I’ve been in the Marina when Burrell has been picking and choosing and also seen Wilson do his thing. You are right, not a pretty site. Huff is married, but….
I was just saying that Reyes’s propensity for not playing hard on the field – would not fly with SF.

logical

Funny theres talk of trading a prospect the day after Liriano throws a no no

SFFANNOKC

Yes, Sandy Alderson is his dad.

Tejada has sure aged quickly in the last 3 years, call BALCO.

ClutchUp

Fredo: Told you your stuff was good, but hope you stick 75% of the time with “Fredo”. Your Scott Boras reference put things into perspective. Sabean and even Colletti before him as THE assistant that handled contracts – openly dispised Boras.

@ obsessivegiantscompulsive: Your post that started: I don’t know why people get like this…

Thank you for putting it into perspective. Other ML clubs in both leagues have their share of PROBLEMS. Only one franchise is defending WS Champs. Repeating is not a realistic goal. A realistic goal is to right-the-ship, win the division or wild card…getting back to any type of post season play.

nightcrawler

great post.

One thing on Reyes..Lets just say we were to give up a Zack Wheeler and a Nick Noonan for Reyes and he turns and leaves via free agency. We would be getting 2 draft picks, likely in the first round and the compensation round. Including our own pick, we would have 3 picks in the first round and compensation round in the 2012 MLB Draft. This is a great way to rebuild our farm system.

Zack Wheeler would be tradable for someone like Reyes (in my mind) only because we could get someone similar to him in the draft with the compensation picks we get from “losing” Reyes.

The flip side of this is if we wanted to be serious contenders for Reyes in Free Agency. We have not have a starting SS with his abilities in forever. It is the biggest hole in our current team and we don’t have anyone tearing through the farm system to be our starting SS next season. We will likely be in the market for a new SS again next offseason. If we decided against trading for him, but signed him via free agency, we would be giving up our 1st round pick (making that farm system even lighter).

I guess the question is Is Zack Wheeler worth Jose Reyes to finish the season with the Giants and 2 first round draft picks? I think it is worth it.

El Lobo

Baggs – providing insight into what Moorehead did and then circling back to the player (Ross) is why you are the best at what you do. I’m just hoping you’re not involved in the (won’t happen anytime soon so don’t know why people continue to obsess about it) trade for Reyes, or I’ll have to become an (ugh) Mets fan.

totalfan62

@ OGC: great post. Thank you for saying essentially the same thing I have been saying for the past two weeks re Reyes and our need to budget big dollars for our pitching staff. Someone will pay Reyes $45-50 million over 3-4 years, and the Giants need to spend that money elsewhere.

Thanks also to Stalky–who sees the Mets up close daily–for confirming the consensus opinion on Reyes. His last two years have not been nearly as strong as his 2007-2008 seasons, and the Giants would be remiss in ignoring those red flags.

The core Giants players for 2012-2016 are Lincecum, Cain, Wilson, Posey, Sandoval and Belt. Lincecum will break the $20 million barrier next year, and we have another two years of Zito at $18M each year, along with Rowand’s last $12 million.

As frustrated as we all are with Tejada, it’s way too early to think about a panic move at SS. We need to determine what DeRosa can contribute and let Tejada work his way out of this slump.

When will Brandon Crawford and Ehire Adrianza begin playing regularly? We also need to determine if these players can become major league regulars.

Mike Souza

@ViewReserved231- Comment- 25- Point taken. I think when it comes to acting professional, preparing for gameday/night & giving it all you got, some of the GIANTS own veteran players who were put on a pedistal last season as “glue guys” with great leadership skills need to take a look in the mirror this season. I am against a possible Reyes trade because he is an injury prone SS who is gonna command a great amount of money. He is an old 27 by the way. I would love him on the team, but not through a trade & not for the amount of money he is gonna get. Tired of crippling contracts holding this team back. If ya give a guy that kind of years & money he better be a sure cornerstone player for years with no health or work ethic issues. Why gut the farm system for a guy who probably has 5-7 other places he would look to sign with when free agency starts before he chose a cold weather cithy like S.F?

BobbyWar

What a game! I was fortunate to be there last night (will be there again tonight) and while I’m no scout here’s my observations:

Fontenot is playing a solid shortstop. Arm strength not great (especially compared to Reyes – cannon) and he has to stay in there when Derosa is back to play 3rd.

Burris has no business being on a major league diamond expect for his speed. Every swing he took was off balance and just doesn’t have a good approach at the plate. Did I mention his fielding…just make sure to hold your breath every time the ball is hit his way.

Tejada is one strange dude. Exhibiting a lot of nervous energy on the field in-between pitches. Strange for a veteran like Tejada. If I wouldn’t not have known better I would have thought it was his first week up in the majors or something.

Cody is lost at the plate against right-handers. His head was jerking every time and his life time splits bear this out.

Huff is back!! The smile on that kid’s face when he made it back to the dougout after hitting that jack. By by monkey

Let’s go Giants!!

Hugh Laurie

“Exhibiting a lot of nervous energy on the field in-between pitches.”

He’s done that his entire career. Pacing around, making faces, etc.

Woj

Keep Cain over Lincecum if $$ are a concern? No way. Lincecum is called Big Time Timmy Jim for a reason. He pitches best when the lights are brightest. Who clinched the World Title? Who mowed dow nthe Bravos in Game 1 of the NLDS? Who piched well enough to win in the NLCS? Whose W/L record is far better than Cain’s (who actually has a losing record). Who has 2 Cy Youngs? Only untouchables on the Giants are Lincecum and Posey. Wilson is a close 3rd.

VmanGfan

Hey Baggs, I never got the to thank you for the update on Brandon Belt. THANK YOU. As far as the Jose Reyes situation, I think we have the ability to fix our SS situation internally and save a ton of money, and perhaps add some excitement- Manny Burriss anyone?

Suspicious

Baggs is enjoying the Manhattan literary social life:

Dinner with George Plimpton, Lunch with Dorothy Parker and late-night cocktails with Jay McInerny.

He watches the Giant games on tape at sunrise.

StupendousBoy

You are so good, Baggs. Thanks as always!

StupendousBoy

Suspicious: Good thinking 🙂 That is awesome!

ClutchUp

@ Suspicious: Have grown to like…no love your stuff. Bobby War and the other fan that lives there STALKY made great comments for and against Reyes (mainly for) and BobbyWar’s comments about Burriss were well founded in SpringTraining. To his back side Burriss is poor and “in his own dome”. To his left ala sliding onto the OF grass he is 100% different. I TOO do not like his off balanced hacks but that is fixable. He too stole a base last night. Wotus and Roberto Kelly were previously carrying stop watches for NO APPARENT reason but when Ford and Burriss are in the mix the times to home and catchers “pop” times are crucial….Burriss is the better base stealer than Ford, fundamentally so.

Devils advocate here: Flemming said Huff broke out of his slump hitting the HR. Where is the guarantee there? I think only the rest of the road trip will tell. Thoughts?

Thanks to Neukom the Giants did get to go to the Supreme Court after all, however as we ALL know the Prez has been “busy” and it wasn’t sched. w/him anyway…
🙂

The Wisdom Cow

Baggs, I am not so sure Reyes will be held onto until after the break. Two reasons, his salary and his current production, both are high. In their dire financial crisis, the sooner Reyes is moved, the better. That doesn’t mean they would try to move him earlier, but I’d bet they would certainly entertain offers. That his stats are very good right now cannot be overlooked either. They would be smart to sell high, especially before he gets injured – imagine that PR nightmare because I’d bet the Met ownership has.

OGC, any chance to get a productive and speedy player has to be taken seriously. Plus, the money issues regarding the dollars needed to keep our pitching intact may not be as big an issue as you think. Zito and Rowand come off the books soonish, and revenue is getting higher and higher. The comparisons as Red Sox West may become very apt. It is of course not a certainty, but the idea that the Giants may become an economic power is not at all ridiculous, especially as they own their park.

ClutchUp

@ nightcrawler who said: I guess the question is Is Zack Wheeler worth Jose Reyes to finish the season with the Giants and 2 first round draft picks? I think it is worth it…

Your post educated me a lot; Trade vs FA.

Comcast let on that the Mets would ask for Wheeler and Thomas Neal, said nothing about Noonan…

ClutchUp

Anyone see the play Pedroia made the other day…while moving over to cover second on a steal or Hit and Run….than reversing field to field the batted ball…Amazing….
As I “think” Al oha said: Speed ‘kills….

Reyes trade, a real possibility. First, nobody on the Giants who has a contract, is within 2 years of FA or 1 year of arbitration is even a candidate for trade to the Mets for Reyes. They are absolutely unable to load salary because they are completely broke and may actually end up owing money to the Madoff recovery crew. Their owner by some people’s measure could be a Madoff co-conspiritor and be bound for jail. Selig or MLB gaurantees are paying all the freight now. As for minor league talent, if it was so great, you would see some up with the Giants now. If it’s 2 years away, that’s never neverland. Reyes, healthy, is a franchise making talent, in my opinion. If you rent him, you have inside track on getting him under contract. I, for one, as a lover of the speed game, would love to see a team in next year or year after that had Burriss, Ford, Torres, and Reyes in the order. Ther may have never been a major league baseball team with that much speed. You saw what those two did last night, that could be a regular event. Think 1982 Cardinals for 4 years before FA cracks them up.

DtX

I started following this blog towards the end of last season and during the WS run and I just want to say great job Baggs!

Anyways, as far as SS goes, I would target a defensive SS, someone like Alcides Esocobar. He can’t hit but he wouldn’t cost as much and his defensive prowess alone is worth it. Obviously, if we can get Reyes at a reasonable price I would do it, but its not going to happen.

Besides, the Met I would want is not Reyes but Beltran because 1) we would not have to give up as much to get him, 2) Beltran’s clutch, and 3) we may be able to retain him at a lower cost.

Stalky

Ask Willie Randolph if Beltran is clutch. Oh wait, Adam Wainwright has the answer. Cheaper he will be, but his knees won’t allow him much mobility anywhere.

As far as Mets finances, count on the Wilpons to go to trial. (The prosecution wants 400-500 while the Fred & Jeff are talking about 150. Them’s ‘re millions by the way.) That will delay any decision on financial penalties/ jail time/ what ever else and allow them time to bring on a minority partner and infuse the team with some cash.

By May’s end, there should be a clearer picture of what they intend to do with Reyes.

ClutchUp

NONONO
Channelingclemente is correct. Between the two its Reyes. Beltran is on the way out and has all the money needed between being an Astro and a Met and his mind is pointed towards this:
LINK: http://carlosbeltranacademy.org/

Stalky knows the deal with the Randoph era leading into the Jerry Manual moments….
DTX=old time fans had their share of lighthitting SS going back to Lemaster etc. Rich Aurillia brought some bang to that position altho hitting in front of #25 helped and Richie also “may-have” been taking some andro or whatever.

Is Reyes fragile=yes. Maybe a West Coast Workout program would enhance is breakdowns. At 27 Pedroia is coming off injuries so Reyes being 27 doesnt seem “old” IMO.

phil

You have to be kidding me. Not only should Tejada not be in the line up he should be released. Stop hiding behind a terrible signing and get rid of him now. Play Fontenot at third and Burris at short. He might not catch everything but at least he will get to balls that Tejada cant get close to. When was the last time Tejada hit a ball out of the infield. No hit, no field , no speed. Just perfect

Roger

Honestly I think Reyes is another one of those overated NY guys(Jeter, Shockey, Keyshawn Johnson. ) I mean he is a good player but no where near the diffrence maker the Mets would command in trade value. He has had seasons of 102+, 118+, 103+ of adjusted OPS and was like a 2.2 War last season.

Not only that but he is a free agent after this season and would take a lot of money to re-sign. So he is basically a renta-player that would demand a lot of money in the off-seaon . Money that we will need to keep guys like Lincecum, Cain , Posey , Sanchez , Pablo with the team down the road.

As Obssevive said earlier. This is basically the same team as last year. Stick with them and hope they keep it close for a run down the strecth again. A heatly Pablo, a better Huff and Posey and a little touch of Belt and they should be primed for another run. Its no time to panic .

Hopefully make a trade for a SS that just plays good D. That would be a upgrade.

Deepwrightfield

I can’t tell if that was a knock against Poland or not.

ViewReserved231

@ Phil….but how are you going to rationalize your statement to release him….Tejada.

Even though I agree with you will it ever happen? He’s a 12 yr vet, former MVP, former Star with the A’s etc.

Everything is former-former-former….but do the Giants organization handle their business like that, esp. UNDER the Neukom regime=No…

I missed the Poland item…WT…

No Longer Long Suffering Giants Fan

I was at the Nationals game on Sunday and saw Tejada swing at the 3-0 pitch with 2 on and a hot hitter (fontenot) up next. Believe me, last nite was not his worst AB, though he is starting to put together a nice highlight reel of worst AB’s.

Don’t forget something else about Reyes. Throughout his career he’s been dogged by leg injuries, which really hurt him the last 2 seasons. I wouldn’t be prepared to give him a 5 yr. deal.

If we get rid of Wheeler and can’t sign either Lincecum, Cain or Sanchez, what happens next?

I say go after Jack Wilson. He’ll give you the glove you need and he’ll come cheap.

KezarMike

Re: Reyes – if this was the “olden days” – trade a top pitching prospect in Cl A ball for a 28 yo top major league shortstop (which teams needs)? In a heartbeat. You gotta give value to get. BUT…only if a long term deal is agreed on first with Reyes. But on the money side, with two more years of the Zito/Rowand/Huff deals…I just don’t think this team can take on 20 mill more a year knowing that we’ve got Lincecum to pay as well. Now if the Yankees or Red Sox or Rangers or someone would take Zito……..(and pay his salary)…..or Rowand….well, that’s another story. We’ll see on Tejada. I thought it was the best deal Giants could make for a shortstop at the time, but still he gets big money. Every time I watch my videos of last year, I realize what a great clutch player Juan Uribe was/is.

wineguy

Miggy, congrats on winning the “Armando Benitez Award” for 2011. Your boneheaded approach to each AB causes a cloud of profanity to form over the bay area not seen in years. At least you have speed, er well, I mean a solid glove, er well, a strong accurate arm, uh, I mean hit for power? or hit for average? What the hell? You better play a heck of a game of domino’s for that 6mil. Rest up on the bench, because one swing of the bat down the stretch or postseason, and ALL will be forgiven. Now go take a nap, we’ll see you in October.

Leonard Bonilla

Simple. Tejada must go! Don’t trade pitching for Reyes. The Giants don’t need him they just need a defensive short stop that can hit in the mid to high 200’s.

Nate Schierholtz is making it hard for Bochy to ignore him. Unless Cody Ross starts hitting he should play behind Schierholtz or in left field. All I’ve ever said about Schierholtz is showing up. Give him a chance to play and he will produce.

BG

The Giants should bring up Brandon Crawford, Dude can pick it at SS. He will struggle at the plate, but will come around with enough AB’s. With such great pitching not sure why Sabean elects to sign over the hill SS’s each year.

Leonard: I agree. Schierholtz should be playing Every Day! He can rake and Nate is the Giants best OF by far.

TitoMac

Jose Reyes

Is a difference maker, In the Giants big park guys with speed who are diffirence makers are a +++. with our pitching his defense, no brainer.

JO-SEEY! JO-SEY! JO-SEY! JOSE

I am so ready for a difference maker at shortstop.

hapkidokid

“The hand wringing must feel a lot different when you’ve got a World Series ring on one finger.”

Wow, summed up my feelings on hearing the news in a nutshell. Well done as always.

JobeJoe

If the door is not hitting Tejada on the way out soon, then he needs to ride the pine and be a mentor to the younger players. His production at the plate is a monumental waste of a precious batter in the line up. His fielding percentage is declining with every bubble Sandoval blows while healing from his surgery.

I know Bochy loves his veterans. But this guy needs to take a seat. Didn’t he learn any lessons from Renteria? Let Freddie Sanchez cover third until De Rosa is back. Let Burriss play second while Fontenot is the stop gap at shortstop. Hell, if you can’t make a move for a while at Shortstop, let Fontenot keep the job. It is far less painful and a lot more productive to see Fontenot handle the job.

It’s early enough in the season to try some things- I am tired of the old slow vets- How about we start taking a more serious look at Scherholtz, Ford and some of our minor leaguers- Don’t really know which might be more ready, but I want some speed in our lineup- how about Peguaro or Brown and let’s get Belt back up here

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