so you have tried black powder and it was garbage is there anything else that gnc sells that would be better other than vapor and no xplod ps i am not hating on no xplod i do like it but i wanted to try something else

VPX NO-SHOTGUN!
hands down one of the best pre workout supps iv ever used. the only other one i would suggest is wtf pump'd but they dont carry it at gnc.

NO shotgun gets my vote too. i finished up a bottle of superpump not too long ago and was not impressed. the shotgun is a little rough to get down (looks like sewage water when mixed and doesnt taste much different) but i liked it a lot.

I haven't tried black powder so i wont comment there, but I have tried a mass array of pre-workout supps and so far I really like SP250. The only downfall is some people react differently to it then others. I am one of the few people that have massive dumbs within 30 min of taking Sp250. For this very reason, I'm trying Ragnarok instead. Apparently it has more stuff and the reps gave me some free samples!

Black is good and nano vapor is good. 250 is good too but I liked the taste of vapor better.

haha u r serious? vapor taste like cough syrup, and doesn't do anything!
SP250 is gives great pumps, and great energy, and great big loads of diareiha.
but everyone is different some people only crap their brains out every other time they use it.

iv only used black powder once, it was one of those lil samples, didnt notice much out of it

My fav has to be NO Xplode. I'm loving White Flood right now also, almost done with my jug, good thing I got 2 when there was the sale. I got some samples of black coming in so I guess I'll have to see how that goes, and I have a sample of High Voltage which looks really good.

superdump makes me poo, alot. And when a friend gave me his black powder because he didn't like it so much, I tried it and no lie fell asleep on the flat bench.

They both have their uses though:

SP250 would be great for constipation
BP would be great to take right before bed, to put you out!

Haha, LMAO. great post. SP250 had same effect for me, like taking psyllium husk or something. Plasmajet very cool. A few guys using NO black that work for me, but none like it. Others I like: Nutrabolics NOZ IV and SAN x12 Magnum, but caffeine kept me up all night. Shot Gun OK but some intestinal distress.