That this could happen just leaves me speechless. You’d think at the very least they’d have some sort self-destruct mechanism on the thing. That our idiot of a president would not send in people to trash the thing shows how far our present government has dragged us down.

It looks fake to me; the intake vent came off a 1955 Chrysler, and seems smaller in scale (to the folks standing around it) than other images of the craft that were previously leaked/posted. Regardless, Iran has their next PR coup, thanks to our President’s backdoor effort to kiss their backdoor ...

On the other hand, unnamed sources told CNN this AM that sat photos show the drone as a pile of rubble ... Also Frank Gafnee was reported to have called the Iranian image “a carnival float ... with drooping wings”.

There are several different images floating around of a UAV designated RQ 170 ...

Either the Iranians have succeeded in placing a mole in the CIA/USAF groups which operate the UAVs, thereby obtaining flight plans, decrypted command codes, auto-destruct overrides, and so on - or the Russian/Chinese have done the same and supplied the info to the Iranians, else it is a huge disinformation campaign ...

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posted on 12/09/2011 7:05:21 AM PST
by PIF
(They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)

How stupid these officials are. You never confirm or deny the loss of intel. At least you make your enemy hesitant.

Here’s hoping that the downed UAV was a plant with major intentional misdirections in it.

Or, perhaps it was Obama’s gift of a delivery system for Iranian WMDs intentionlly brought to earth fully intact. (Wonder what he’d get in exchange for that? “Impossible!” you say. Now that Fast and Furious proves the Govt will commit murders to injure the 2nd amendment, I’m comfortable believing they’ll give islamics weapons to use against Israel.)

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posted on 12/09/2011 7:10:25 AM PST
by xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)

The drone would be a great way to get more malware onto Iran computers. Load the drone with computer viruses and obsolete or deliberately misleading technology and accidentally crash it. Even if that wasnt the case, if you could start the rumor, hopefully the Iranians would get a little nervous about hooking their computers up to the thing

No. It would not.

For crap's sake people. This is not Jeff Golblum hooking up his Macbook laptop to an alien spaceship via USB and uploading a virus from the WOPR.

Officials at Creech Air Force Base in Nevada knew for two weeks about a virus infecting the drone cockpits there. But they kept the information about the infection to themselves  leaving the unit thats supposed to serve as the Air Forces cybersecurity specialists in the dark. The network defenders at the 24th Air Force learned of the virus by reading about it in Danger Room.

The virus, which records the keystrokes of remote pilots as their drones fly over places like Afghanistan, is now receiving attention at the highest levels; the four-star general who oversees the Air Forces networks was briefed on the infection this morning. But for weeks, it stayed (you will pardon the expression) below the radar: a local problem that local network administrators were determined to fix on their own.

It was not highlighted to us, says a source involved with Air Force network operations. When your article came out, it was like, What is this?

The drones are still flying over warzones from Afghanistan to Pakistan to Yemen. Theres no sign, yet, that the virus either damaged any of the systems associated with the remotely piloted aircraft or transmitted sensitive information outside the military chain of command  although three military insiders caution that a full-blown, high-level investigation into the virus is only now getting underway.

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posted on 12/09/2011 8:05:48 AM PST
by crosslink
(Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)

Here's another possibility: LockMart built this as a Trojan Horse intending it to be landed in hostile territory and captured/analyzed by foreign intel. When they try to apply what they reverse engineer out of it into home grown copies and they start feeding intel to the US, what kind of intel coup would that be. Who knows what little malware goodies have been planted into the thing waiting to be uploaded.

Here's another possibility: LockMart built this as a Trojan Horse intending it to be landed in hostile territory and captured/analyzed by foreign intel. When they try to apply what they reverse engineer out of it into home grown copies and they start feeding intel to the US, what kind of intel coup would that be. Who knows what little malware goodies have been planted into the thing waiting to be uploaded.

Here's another possibility: LockMart built this as a Trojan Horse intending it to be landed in hostile territory and captured/analyzed by foreign intel. When they try to apply what they reverse engineer out of it into home grown copies and they start feeding intel to the US, what kind of intel coup would that be. Who knows what little malware goodies have been planted into the thing waiting to be uploaded.

Here's another possibility: LockMart built this as a Trojan Horse intending it to be landed in hostile territory and captured/analyzed by foreign intel. When they try to apply what they reverse engineer out of it into home grown copies and they start feeding intel to the US, what kind of intel coup would that be. Who knows what little malware goodies have been planted into the thing waiting to be uploaded.

That this could happen just leaves me speechless. Youd think at the very least theyd have some sort self-destruct mechanism on the thing. That our idiot of a president would not send in people to trash the thing shows how far our present government has dragged us down.

its almost like serving up our technology on a platter ...unintentionally of course /sarcasm>

Here's another possibility: LockMart built this as a Trojan Horse intending it to be landed in hostile territory and captured/analyzed by foreign intel. When they try to apply what they reverse engineer out of it into home grown copies and they start feeding intel to the US, what kind of intel coup would that be. Who knows what little malware goodies have been planted into the thing waiting to be uploaded.

My analysis is that as they said, or i think i read they said, it ran out of fuel loitering over a selected area. Out of fuel it can still fly by gliding to a landing. That can be controlled or uncontrolled, we don’t know which.

If the radio link were lost it could continue to fly till ran out of gas. It could then glide down to a belly landing and not actually “crash”

bottom line though, we don’t know and likely will never know what really happened

“My analysis is that as they said, or i think i read they said, it ran out of fuel loitering over a selected area. Out of fuel it can still fly by gliding to a landing. That can be controlled or uncontrolled, we dont know which”

Lets assume this is correct, Iran is a huge country, how would they know it was down? Where to find it?

I think per the article above someone hacked the system and we were too stupid to change our system. I think the Russians waited until we put up our best bird up in the air and hi-jacked it to an airport. How in the hell can we have a system this important hacked? Read the whole article linked above.

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posted on 12/09/2011 12:08:35 PM PST
by crosslink
(Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)

“My analysis is that as they said, or i think i read they said, it ran out of fuel loitering over a selected area. Out of fuel it can still fly by gliding to a landing. That can be controlled or uncontrolled, we dont know which”

Lets assume this is correct, Iran is a huge country, how would they know it was down? Where to find it?

I think per the article above someone hacked the system and we were too stupid to change our system. I think the Russians waited until we put up our best bird up in the air and hi-jacked it to an airport. How in the hell can we have a system this important hacked? Read the whole article linked above.

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posted on 12/09/2011 12:12:48 PM PST
by crosslink
(Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)

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