However, what many people do not realize is the motive for Susan Rice to call for the release of this transcript. This aspect of the intercepted communication is very interesting.

First, there is nothing damaging in the content of the Flynn-Kislyak call. We know there is nothing damaging in the transcript because the call was made on December 29, 2016; and the FBI investigators who intercepted the call reviewed the call content; and five days later on January 4, 2017, the same Washington DC field office of the FBI wanted to close the investigation of Michael Flynn having “found no derogatory information.”

If there had been something damaging within the call to either the incoming Trump administration, or Michael Flynn himself, the FBI would not be saying they have found nothing derogatory and they were closing the Flynn investigation five days after the call.

Additionally, we also know there was nothing damaging or inappropriate within the call because Robert Mueller’s investigators outlined the content:

Flynn requesting that “Russia not escalate the situation” or get into a “tit for tat” is not inappropriate, impolite, undermining of Obama foreign policy, or violating any norm of diplomatic political standards during a presidential transition. Incoming National Security Advisor Michael Flynn simply said don’t “escalate” beyond standard reciprocity.

So the “transcript” of a call that was already reviewed by FBI investigative monitors -who found no issue- and reviewed by the special counsel -who found nothing of issue- isn’t going to all of a sudden present damaging optics for the Trump administration three years later. [I put “transcript” in quotation marks for a reason; I will explain below.]

The bottom line is any transcript released today, if there is one, is a nothing-burger.

So why is Susan Rice advocating for the release of the transcript?

Here’s where things get interesting…

Remember, the objective of Susan Rice and her lawyer, former White House counsel and Obama ‘fixer’ Kathryn Ruemmler, is to protect President Obama and the former administration. Obama, Rice and Ruemmler know the transcript angle is a nothing-burger; however, the transcript does one thing very clearly…. It puts the burden of consequence for the use of the transcript squarely on former FBI Director James Comey.

I suspect, very heavily, Susan Rice is requesting release of full transcript because she knows it was non-existent to the Obama White House. That fact puts more distance between Obama and Comey; and that paints the FBI operation against Flynn as rogue. The distance here was/is ongoing goal.

This gets a little nuanced; but the REAL story is in the weeds.

In early January 2017 DNI James Clapper was asked by the White House to find out why the Russians were not escalating the issue over sanctions by reacting with more ferocity to the action of President Obama. As James Comey testified, the intelligence community was tasked to “review all intelligence for an answer.”

FBI Director Comey reviewed the content of the Kislyak-Flynn interception and briefed DNI James Clapper on the “Flynn cuts.” The “cuts” are essentially raw intelligence summaries of the intercept.

DNI Clapper requested “copies” (plural) of the intercepted raw intelligence summaries known as “CR cuts” (Flynn is Crossfire Razor “CR”); and using the copies of the intercept summaries DNI Clapper briefed President Obama on January 4, 2017, thereby answering the question about why the Russian’s were not reacting more severely.

However, the outcome of DNI Clapper briefing President Obama, with what Deputy Director Andrew McCabe described as “a summary document” that wasn’t an official “intelligence product”, was the White House now being officially informed of an open FBI investigation against incoming NSA Michael Flynn. The White House was now infected with knowledge of the investigation…. and that could be a potential problem later on.

The knowledge of an investigation into the incoming administration; and the document trail created by Clapper/Comey; created a need for President Obama to have the pull-aside meeting with FBI Director James Comey the next day, January 5, 2017.

The purpose of the meeting was to create distance from an explosive & political issue. The outgoing administration needed distance from James Comey. Everything written in Susan Rice’s memo about the meeting is specifically worded to create that distance.

Susan Rice writes: “The President stressed that he is not asking about, initiating or instructing anything from a law enforcement perspective”, adding three times that President Obama instructed Comey to handle everything “by the book.” In essence the way Susan Rice framed the conversation was to place James Comey as specifically responsible for anything that happens.

Now, FBI Director James Comey isn’t stupid, and he would have immediately picked up on how he was being positioned outside the protective wire and completely on his own. Being a very political FBI Director, Comey would know exactly what the purpose of these specific words and instructions from the President implied.

Rice’s memo, written with the advice of White House counsel, is specifically worded to create distance. You might say the White House was leaving Comey holding the proverbial bag; and setting him up to be the ‘fall guy‘ if things went sideways.

This is the point where we need to put ourselves in Comey’s very political shoes. Comey knows the purpose of that meeting. Comey also knows essentially Obama is saying he didn’t authorize an investigation of Flynn and Obama is not going to protect Comey.

So what exactly was Comey tasked to do on behalf of the White House?

The only thing (provable) the FBI was specifically tasked to do was find out the reason for Russia’s behavior or lack thereof. That’s it. Comey carried authority to produce the intercepted “tech cuts”; and as an outcome of the task share them with DNI Clapper. But that’s the end of the White House/DNI tasking authority to the FBI against Flynn.

Director Comey was not tasked, authorized or requested to produce a transcript of the intercepted phone call; and he was not tasked to do anything else with it. From the perspective of Obama, Comey’s task was complete January 5th, anything more is on him.

The lack of investigative authority toward Flynn is a key point to consider as we look at the internal FBI debate. Remember, the day before the Obama/Comey conversation the FBI investigators had already determined there was “no derogatory information” and they were going to close the investigation. Additionally, there was nothing of issue within the Flynn-Kislyak call content itself.

Anything, including legal risk from an abuse of power, after that January 5th meeting was now completely on Director Comey and Deputy Director Andrew McCabe’s shoulders.

With that in mind, the debate with FBI Director of Counterintelligence Bill Priestap, and the January 23/24, 2017, meetings where Priestap is taking notes of conversations with Comey and McCabe, take on a new and narrow focus.

The FBI small group (Comey, McCabe, Baker, Page, Priestap, Strzok, Pientka) together with the DOJ small group (Yates, McCord, Guahar, Moffa) had proposed a wild theory about accusing Flynn of Logan Act violations. Somehow, despite their own investigators saying there was nothing derogatory, the group was determined to eliminate Flynn.

The crew was leaking to the media for support; but even with the severe echo chamber Bill Priestap had reservations writing in his notes during their meeting “I believe we should rethink this.”

The FBI team led mostly by Comey, McCabe, Page and Strzok never even told the main justice crew about the decision to interview Flynn until after it was over, according to Deputy AG Sally Yates.

The FBI wasn’t tasked by anyone else to interview Flynn four days after the inauguration. The content of the Flynn-Kislyak call was fine according to the DC FBI investigators; and the controversy was generated by their own ‘small group’ media leaks and narrative engineering. So ultimately what was the authority to interview Flynn?

According to the outside review by Missouri U.S. Attorney Jeff Jensen there wasn’t any legal reason or justified authority to conduct the interview. Hence, Jensen recommended to AG Bill Barr that the DOJ just drop the case; and they did.

The only FBI “pre-authorized” evidence was the gathering of the tech summary or “cuts” from the intercept. There was no task or authorization to generate a transcript or do anything further. James Comey would know that, and he would definitely know from the earlier conversation with President Obama that he was all alone.

With that in mind, do you think Comey would assemble an actual transcript for use in the Flynn interview that Main Justice was never informed was going to happen? Or, would it be safer to stick with the “CR Cuts” and summaries that FBI Agent Strzok and FBI Agent Pientka saw, reviewed and knew about?

In the aftermath of the interview; and amid six months where nothing was done as a result of the interview; and amid all of the subsequent congressional requests for the transcript with no results; and amid all of the special counsel indictment filings against Flynn; and amid all of the legal proceedings against Flynn where the transcripts were requested (defense) and later ordered (judge) over two years; and not produced by prosecutor (Van Grack et al) there is zero evidence the Flynn-Kislyak transcript(s) even exist.

The reality is: there is 100 percent evidence the Flynn transcripts were never used in any proceedings, including legal proceedings; and zero percent evidence they even exist.

When we consider there is nothing derogatory within the Flynn-Kislyak conversation; and the only Flynn issue is how the FBI framed the content of answers to questions about a transcript the FBI has never admitted to exist, or presented to prove their case…Well, is it possible all of the efforts against Flynn were constructed from the use of “tech cuts” or “CR cuts” or summaries of the intercept?

That possibility is only real because the transcripts have never been identified.

The FBI, the DOJ, the special counsel, and the specific prosecutors have never stated they ever held an official transcript beyond the evidence of the call summaries identified above.

Could it be the DOJ bluffed Flynn into a guilty plea with: (1) threats against Mike Flynn Jr, (2) a fabricated 302 written/edited/shaped AFTER the interview, and (3) a non-existent transcript?

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Earlier, I posted a comment questioning why Comey would accept being the fall guy. I noted:

SD states “The purpose of the meeting was to create distance from an explosive & political issue. The outgoing administration needed distance from James Comey….Now, FBI Director James Comey isn’t stupid, and he would have immediately picked up on how he was being positioned outside the protective wire and completely on his own. Being a very political FBI Director, Comey would know exactly what the purpose of these specific words and instructions from the President implied.”

So this begs the question, if Comey knew that he was being set up as the fall guy, why did he go along with it? If he was specifically told to do things “by the book,” why did he, on 24th January, not do things “by the book” and deliberately parted with the accepted protocol, by not first liaising with WH Counsel before sending in the FBI agents to interview Flynn, as would have been required, if Comey was doing things “by the book”? Comey had done his job, by allowing HRC to walk, and to compete in the 2016 election, so why would Comey be so invested in removing Flynn from office? There was no need to expose himself, in this manner, by going rogue. Why did he not place a memo on file that he was instructed by the WH to further investigate Flynn? After all, he too, could have written a CYA memo to file, just like Rice.

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Now on GWP there is a story in which Catherine Herridege notes that the recent docs attached to the DOJ’s application to dismiss the Flynn case, that Comey states that he was instructed to investigate why the Russian’s had not reacted to the Obama sanctions etc.

This calls into doubt the veracity of the Rice 20th January memo to self. Perhaps the redacted part of that memo is a complete fabrication. Perhaps Obama specificlly requested Comey to carry on with the criminal/fbi investigation. To me, that would make more sense.

It’s possible that Obama wasn’t involved in the Muh Russia plan in a direct way, intimate with the operations, and that Comey, Clapper and Brennan in the background were driving it and were now coming into the WH to somehow get Obama firmly implicated, on the record.

You can’t preclude it. Those guys were snakes and would surely ensnare him once their plot was about to be discovered by a new president. They HAD to get Trump under investigation immediately, and get Mueller appointed, but they also needed to tie themselves to Obama. It was do or die for them.

So, maybe this is wh Barr is saying Obama is not and probably will not be a TARGET. I assume that all this nit only comes from Comey, but his stupid LAWFARE GROUP buddies who seem to be behind everything that we now see as Anti-Trump. The Lawfare Group had a hand in all of this, no doubt, the led Comey the dingbat down this road.

Remember, Hillary was going to win. They didn’t mind being a little sloppy, because they wanted it to be known whose team they were on. The Clintons are famous for punishing their enemies and rewarding their friends.

Yes. Why should we take Rice’s memo at face value at all? That’s like stealing and trying to get off by writing a memo to self “I never steal.” The people in the room, the topic of the conversation, and the timing should be enough to incriminate those people, regardless of the words Susan Rice wrote. Why are we all getting so wrapped up in the Rice memo?

Jessica Leppanen, I totally agree. Why should we believe anything Rice (or any Obama associate) wrote or says? There were claims (Yates) that Rice wasn’t even present during the meeting she’s writing about.

Yes. Why should we take Rice’s memo at face value at all? That’s like stealing and trying to get off by writing a memo to self “I never steal.” The people in the room, the topic of the conversation, and the timing should be enough to incriminate those people, regardless of the words Susan Rice wrote. Why are we all getting so wrapped up in the Rice memo?

Catherine Herridege notes that the recent docs attached to the DOJ’s application to dismiss the Flynn case, that Comey states that he was instructed to investigate why the Russian’s had not reacted to the Obama sanctions etc.

Which is odd in itself. Why Russia might or might not do something would normally be a question for the State Department, for the CIA or for 5 eyes partners. Not for the FBI, whose only intelligence role is counter-intelligence.

So if Comey is telling the truth about his instructions (yeah yeah) an instruction for him to investigate the reason for Russian behavior indicates that the White House was only interested in reasons that could be discovered from domestic counter-intelligence work. And that the WH already knew that FBI had some current investigation in progress that might shed light on Russian behavior – ie prior WH knowledge of Crossfire Hurricane and Crossfire Razor.

Also such an investigation would have been transparently pointless, as there was no mystery to solve. it would have taken a child of five about a minute to work out the obvious – the Russians knew there was going to be a new US government in three weeks time. Why retaliate until you know whether the Obama sanctions are going to be continued by the new regime ?

So its a seriously weird tidbit. Comey – if truthful – reveals that the White House demanded that FBI domestic counter-intelligence report on a foreign intelligence question, to which they, and all the world, knew the answer already.

There is also the email from Strok to Page or vice versa where one says to the other, “You know how obama wants to know everything.”
That is going to be hard to explain away because Brennan and Strozk were working together on the whole scheme and thus obama would be briefed by Brennan daily. Many here were disappointed by Barr’s comment about not charging obama or Biden criminally. But he actually said, “With the evidence we have TODAY, I do not see charges against them”. As Scarlet said, “Tomorrow is another day”!

AG Barr said Flynn’s response in the call was honorable so their has to be some type of transcript. As far as anyone flipping, I believe that would be both Baker and likely Priestap… They may be others too…

Ha, you’ve got that right….as do all their followers…your comment makes me think of the state dept employees, acting lke they’re “whistleblowers” when all they were saying was “PDT did not go through us, as we think he should have.”

McCabe said there was “no formal intelligence product”. Putting aside that he’s a proven liar (about his illegal leaking) maybe they intentionally allowed no paper trail to be created from whatever electronic method they used to intercept Flynn’s calls (because they had no criminal warrant or grounds to listen in on Flynn). And probably Susan Rice would know there was no “transcript” and she is either 1. Implicating Comey for acting without grounds or 2. Setting up the narrative that the Trump Admin is hiding the ball on a (non-existent) document that would implicate Flynn. If it’s the latter, she is part of “Impeachment 2.0” for obstruction. (Trump obstructing prosecution of Flynn)

I think she is also using the “court of public opinion” that she knows is heavily weighed in her (Obama) favor. The media and the public would take anything said by Flynn and turn it into Judas taking 30 pieces of silver.

It’s always their fallback position, and it works. The media is completely corrupt.

One question I can’t figure out: Why was Flynn fired so quickly? With all the previous democrat/deep state attackso on him and PDJT, leaks, spying on phone calls, spying on campaigns, etc etc…he was innocent and I’m sure could explain the setup injustice, why did he get fired? The media used it to make him look even more guilty.

That is a very easy yet naive question to ask in hind-sight, 3+ years after the fact. You completely ignore the environment of the time, which was far worse than even today’s.

President Elect Trump was being threatened by both political parties before inauguration day and had proof positive that the DoJ as well as IC were trying to remove him before 20 January 2017. The DNC and neverTrump RINO’s were fomenting unrest in the streets, going so far as to close schools to put children in harms way. The RNC had cut off access to helping him hire on a competent team with insider DC knowledge. At that point it was better safe than sorry.

Right. Run of the mill Republicans underestimated the depth of President Trump’s support. Republicans see it now, and so, other than Mittens, are trying to appear supportive as working against the VSG is career suicide.

correct. but that does not explain or excuse potus for tossing flynn over the rails with not only zero pushback to defend flynn. which obviously would also serve hos OWN best fair and justifiable interests.

so this is where i am bit more than just angry about that decision.

one forms one of many not so pleasant scenarios

Flynn’s demise was a lessor than two evils function… casting him over provided space. this is nor only severely myopic but it actually ONLY served to cause just the opposite.

Pence is a dimwit nunce and potus was forced to protect his lie… this is my current thesis which plainly explains above.

perhaps there was something rogue about flynn that potus believed was not amenable to his goals. something other than this frame-up. trump is quite notorious esp at that period for a very aggressive jetison of less than reliable selections. nothibg wrong with that but if there was some other justification it should have been made clear and not attached this russia is coming bullcorn.

just remember and don’t let this fact escape orbit:

POTUS and.the WH were very very aware of the nature and agenda of the deep staters.

you dont give up your queen on the first move without showing a well calculated trap. there was none.

this was an unforced error that caused the complete destruction of a highly decorated military officer who is about to begin one of the most significant administrative shifts in personnel in over 50 years…and modify the very balance of power away from corruptors!

not protecting him…and declaring him liar that provided ALL of the wood for the radicals to burn everything down… there are no good and legitimate reasons to make that happen.

when the enemy is storming your gates…you pull in defensively, assess and modify…you make the offensive movements of your enemy their weaknesses!!

this was akin to sacrificing your intelligence officers… throwing them over the wall.

That is correct…
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and half the Nation is still screaming ‘but Flynn lied to Pence’ – and of course – every on the Right know that none of that mix up would have happened had the FBI not tried to Rail-road Flynn.

Not naive at all, just searching for maybe an alternate reason or possible deeper strategy other than occam’s razor or just easier; especially since PDJT and him were both in pretty similar situation (innocent man fighting for justice, framed with false evidence and charges by known and obvious corrupt deep state actions, who are trying to persecute and remove them from office). Yes, there was lot of pressure on a new administration and he was hamstrung all over the place by many people, so that forces some decisions. I hope street protests don’t ever get to a level to force a President to fire people the mob doesn’t like though. Hopefully behind the scenes it was an amiable mutual agreement, and not as portayed by fake news (toxic “firing”).

This has been covered in the past. IIRC, the media baited Pence into saying that no one had spoken with Kislyak. Then cabal leaked to the media that Flynn had. Pence claimed Flynn had “misinformed” him. Flynn went under the bus to protect the VP. Whether Flynn lied to Pence about the calls is not known. Preistap’s notes show that one of the cabal’s objectives was getting Flynn fired. Their machinations worked.

“JOHN DICKERSON, CBS NEWS: Today on FACE THE NATION: With just five days until the inauguration of Donald Trump, a new era dawns in Washington.
After a contentious press conference, his first in 168 days.
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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENT-ELECT: I think it was disgraceful, disgraceful that the intelligence agencies allowed any information that turned out to be so false and fake out. I think it is a disgrace. And that is something that Nazi Germany would have done and did do.
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DICKERSON: President-elect Donald Trump prepares to take the oath of office. We will ask vice president-elect Mike Pence about the latest investigation into Russian meddling, Donald Trump`s relationship with the intelligence community and the press.
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TRUMP: No, I am not going to give you a question. You are fake news.
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A deep dive into the ties between the new Trump staff and the Russians.
And our weekly political panel.
It`s all ahead on FACE THE NATION.

JOHN DICKERSON: Good morning. And welcome to Face the Nation. I’m John Dickerson. Vice-president-elect Mike Pence starts off our broadcast this morning. Welcome, Mr. Vice-president-elect–

MIKE PENCE: Thank you, John.

JOHN DICKERSON: Five days from now, you will be the vice-president. Let’s start with some news. The Republican chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee has decided to investigate Russian meddling in the election. That includes any possible contact between the Russians trying to meddle and the Trump campaign. What’s your reaction to that?

MIKE PENCE: Well, I think the president-elect and I both welcome the Congress doing its oversight work in this and any other area. And we look forward to the results of their inquiry. But make no mistake about it. I think they’ll find what the publicly released intelligence report showed before, is that there’s no evidence of any impact on voting machines. Donald Trump won this election fair and square. 30 out of 50 states. More counties than any Republican candidate since Ronald Reagan. And so while we certainly respect the right of the Congress to provide oversight, to make inquiries where they deem them appropriate, this– the American people spoke in this election. And the peaceful transition of power that’ll take place this coming Friday on a platform where our president-elect will take the oath of office surrounded by four of the five living presidents is a testament to our democracy. And I’m incredibly humble to be a part of it, John.

JOHN DICKERSON: Last week before that intelligence briefing, the president-elect said he felt like all these questions were part of a witch hunt. He’s now had some new information. There’s now the Senate Intelligence Committee. So does– he no longer thinks this is a witch hunt, this investigation into Russian meddling. Is that fair to say?

MIKE PENCE: Well, I think that there frankly has just been an effort by many in the national media, present company excepted, since this election to essentially demean and question the legitimacy of this incoming administration. And talk of that, sources within the intelligence community that have been attributed with sharing that information, public officials. I think it’s a real disservice to our democracy. As I’ve said, Donald Trump won in a landslide. The American people spoke decisively. They wanted change. And I promise them come noon this coming Friday, change really begins. And we’re going to make America great again.

JOHN DICKERSON: But there’s a distinction between that feeling about the press and legitimate inquiry, as you say, that the Senate Intelligence Committee is doing. Just to button up one question, did any advisor or anybody in the Trump campaign have any contact with the Russians who were trying to meddle in the election?

MIKE PENCE: Of course not. And I think to suggest that is to give credence to some of these bizarre rumors that have swirled around the candidacy. …

“did any advisor or anybody in the Trump campaign have any contact with the Russians who were trying to meddle in the election?

MIKE PENCE: Of course not, you idiot. The election meddlers were HRC, Fusion GPS, Perkins -Coie, Christopher Steele, Alex Chalupa, Nellie Ohr, John Brennan, and several senior FBI people.
General Flynn had contact with Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak, who was not trying to meddle in the election in the slightest.

If they were Demoncrats the lying on TV would not have mattered. Zero, Susan Rice, Brennan, Clapper, and Comey did it all the time. Pence would have just said “so what…I lied” and media would have ignored…if they were demoncrats

Flat wrong, they were ones pushing the fake dossier which had already been discredited plus he has Admiral Rogers warnings in hand. Then there was the infamous warning from Schumer about the IC getting even. He knew the FBI and IC were after him.

Guys, PDJT has been hanging around the highest levels of government since AT LEAST the early 80’s.

He doesn’t drink (helps to remember things at ‘their’ functions.
He’s strategic (He named his friggin book after the most widely read and studied tome on war, for crying out loud!)
AND…it was written by a CHINESE strategist – who advocates planning, using cunning, disinformation, attack, retreat, and bluffing.
He’s not perfect. Leadership is hard.

But he’s no newbie, here. He may not have had their titles, but he knows their system better than they.

How else do you explain the seeming ease with which a few judo moves totally disabled China?

PDJT has war-gamed being President for YEARS. Not in a compulsive way, like Hillary (she wants control. PDJT wants freedom/prosperity), but in a, “THAT’S the dumbest thing EVER! I can’t believe! Junior, if I was President, I’d totally redo ALL of these trade deals, and I’d start with NAFTA!” kind of way.

The fact he is STILL in office. The fact the he is STILL alive. Heh. At this point? I don’t think he’s been truly surprised by anything.

that is a very dubious claim. this potus and pence were fully aware well before this event that the entire cabal was determined to eff around.

Flynn was likely informing them of what was being weaponized.

certainly we know at least radm Rogers was informing them with specifics.

the facts remain… against the abundance of well informed Patriots and their cautionary advise, potus stoodnupn4 separate occasions and literally threw Flynn to the wolves.

i can overlook and square tactical and strategic errors. they happen. it’s reality.

but what i cannot square use why for me nearly 4 years POTUS and pence have NOT shown an ounce of accountability and contrition towards that very damaging decision.

i call balls and strikes. no man is above scrutiny and criticism.

while Flynn suffered endlessly nat the mercy of a corrupt conspiracy of criminals..this administration sat and made zero efforts to protect him or reconcile former decisions.

it comes late and pathetic that the only reason either of these two have even started a open topic on flynn was directly because a rogue patriot sidney powell ran to his aim and obliterated the fraud. count grennel in that corner!

its not just bad look…but one seriously begins to question moral judgement. i do.

they allowed flynn to be destroyed. showing some level of contrition or truthfully explaining that decision would clear the air.

to those that have this weird opinion about FLYNN being willing to jump back onto thar team in any capacity are misguided. would you?

and Sidney taking any position with this administration? forget about it.

loyalty cuts two ways folks.

Flynn devoted his entire military career defending against enemies that would desire to destroy America.

not one single person in the Trump admin put up even.tye slightest defense.

It’s so refreshing to get information at the Treehouse from Sundance’s articles and ancillary information from the Treeper community, insights, comments and perspectives, so much better then the LSM.🤗😁

It’s a combination of the freshly minted administration being gullible, and their misconception that they could best distance themselves from the Russia “Scandal” by disowning anyone that had even the remote sense of dirt on them. After all, POTUS had been told he wasn’t personally under investigation, and surely this whole Russia thing wasn’t made out of whole cloth… Plus, if we’re being honest, blame/fire is kinda Trump’s thing, but they should have known the media wouldn’t accept the offering, instead spinning it as “methinks the lady doth protest too much”…

Obama had “poisoned the well” with Trump re Flynn. Since Obama could not reveal the real resin he feared Flynn in his warnings, he certainly painted Flynn as a loose cannon, etc. So when confronted with his VP saying Flynn lied to him, Trump had a tough choice and made it. I probably would have too, in that environment where it was becoming evident that there was a knife in someone’s hand behind every pillar!

rayvabdune: I think Trump,in trying to get his new administration off the ground, decided that it was best for all to let Flynn go. This included Flynn in that they would leave him alone now that he had left the administration.

I don’t think Trump had any idea that at the time this was going on the fbi was ramping up the coup. Flynn, check, next Sessions, check, Roesenstein in charge, check, with of course the grand finale Mueller/Weinsteinn to get him impeached.

If Trump had not had the unwavering support of his voters and his own fortitude, he would have crumpled from all of these forces arrayed against him. By God’s Grace he is still our President and getting stronger every day.

Obama had “poisoned the well” with Trump re Flynn. Since Obama could not reveal the real resin he feared Flynn in his warnings, he certainly painted Flynn as a loose cannon, etc. So when confronted with his VP saying Flynn lied to him, Trump had a tough choice and made it. I probably would have too, in that environment where it was becoming evident that there was a knife in someone’s hand behind every pillar!

The most disheartening part of all of this is that PDJT is pursuing a road that is going to result in his electoral defeat barring some really big faux-pas by Biden.

Anyone who looks at how wide-spread and powerful throughout the world DeepState is and thinks that they are pulling out all of the stops to defeat PDJT isnt paying attention.

The reason why Comey, McCabe, Strok, etc. are all acting so confident, even lying in their testimony before Congress is because THEY KNOW they are safe.

The reason why PDJT’s administration hasnt perped walk anyone is because THEY KNOW Obama and his administration and the DS moles in THIS administration control the levers and are doing all they can to thwart, delay, end any real investigation. They are fighting SOLELY to defeat PDJT in the next election….they just need to ride it out and control the narrative….WHICH THEY ARE DOING WELL.

‘When it comes to winning the election in November, Sundance, Sidney Powell, etc. and their hard work IS NOT GOING TO WIN A VOTE unless THERE ARE prosecutions. Obama and his administration being brought into this does NOT help in this regard……some folks will then excuse the underlings for simply taking orders. Obama, intensely hated by most of us, however, won 2 national elections including the independent voters in the battleground states which PDJT won last time. People will EXCUSE him just like they did over the Iran deal, Benghazi, etc. All DS has to do is to delay any real legal repercussions from happening and the issue will appear to be simply dirty politics rather than criminality.

With all of the bombshell info coming out over the last 2 weeks, President Trump’s re-election approval number has him minus 13 in what has historically been his best poll. Rasmussen. Please dont pontificate about how bad and rigged polls are, of course they are, but this shows the trend is TERRIBLE for PDJT. That is the only use of polls are, trends.

This election needs to get onto China, opening the economy, immigration, judges and the pitiful state of Biden while SOMEONE works methodically and systemically to expose DeepState at the same time…but until the indictments drop, it all is just looking like partisan bs.

So, if you are an independent going into the voting booth and you decided to vote for Biden, then there is nothing you can do. Some people are just born stupid. Regarding the polls, who cares. People usually decide at the last moment, and when they step into the voting booth, they typically vote opposite of what they said during the survey.

Good Lord, I hope PDJT’s doesnt depend on a Kenyan birth certificate. NO body will believe it is real and think it is fake and many of those few who do care and believe will think it isnt important now and in the future.

Obama was born in the USA to two American parents: Stanley Ann Dunham and Frank Marshall Davis. Therefore he is a Natural-Born Citizen, even if they weren’t married. That is his ace-in-the-hole and why Obama acts so sure of himself. It would be a YUGE fake-out for Trump to pursue this angle.

I don’t think so. There is nothing ‘sure’ about him. I used to watch the right side of his face twitch all the time when he was giving speeches, speaking, answering questions…inner turmoil because of all the lies and the need to keep the ‘destroy America’ mission from becoming overly transparent.

Strange he was a 2 term president and still no one really knows who his parents were, where he was born, what schools he went to, whether he was even at College where he said, how many SS numbers he has.

His existence seemed to start a few years before getting initially elected. I wonder what his real history is?

It is ‘strange.’ Very strange. Very strange, indeed, to hide all of these things, and what is EVEN STRANGER is how an entire HISTORY of a Presidential Candidate being ABSENT didn’t make a bit of difference to the leftist voter, because the majority of Americans are SHEEPLE and the Demonrat Party knew they would have the FULL COOPERATION of Mainstream Enemedia to NOT PRESS for the 0bama history, because it would make the face and voice unelectable , even by the leftist narrative consumers and reality deniers / sheeple (perhaps even legally/constitutionally, if the ‘Foreign Student’ ID pic floating around is accurate.)

– Barry Hussein’s missing birth-records at the hospital in Hawaii that he was alleged spawned in. Sheriff Arpaio’s investigation found a ~3 week ‘blank’ for ALL of the birth-records in and around that time-frame. Also, the woman who recorded the births either in the hospital or at the gov’t. center in HI died in a mysterious plane crash early in Hussein’s illegitimate presidency.

– There are the unexplained deaths of two of Barry’s “friends”who spent a lot of ‘special’ time with him either at a church or ‘gym’. The story is that one or both of them were about to ‘out’ Barry as it were.

– Barry, the gen-yooo-wine compstitutional skollar that he is, seemed to enjoy teaching a class on Alinsky, but don’t mind that.

– Hussein has an amazing likeness to Frank Marshall Davis, Jr., an avowed Communist, much more so than to his ‘real’ father, but don’t pay much attention to that!

– Then we have MANY examples of Barry appointees that are redicals, commies and extremists, but don’t mind that either.

Barry the Crap-Stain’s lasting ‘legacy’ will be his exposure to being the biggest fraud in the history of our Nation, and the damage he and his ilk have inflicted upon our Great Country.

LS, I up voted you. Yes, 0zero has a seeming ace in the hole with two American parents. At the same time, this would indicate lots of fraud by him in his presidential run-up. He probably signed forms under oath attesting to his American/Kenyan parentage. That would be felony perjury.

I suggest thinking deeper. What if SA Dnhm was NOT 0zero’s birth mother? There is a lot of circumstantial evidence suggesting that the Dnhms could have been selected as a surrogate “family”. Notice that the narrative of an 18 y/o girl moving 2500 miles to Seattle with a 3-week baby in tow, with no family in Seattle to help, zero experience taking care of younger sibs, and attending college full-time is fantastic on its face. The so-called “marriage” in Maui allegedly ended in divorce, for hubby’s bigamy. Impossible: the marriage would have been nullified and voided, and hubby prosecuted for perjury (claim of eligibility to marry notarized affidavit), bigamy and fraud against the woman and the state. Except for microfiche newspaper birth announcements, easy to forge long after the fact, the earliest evidence in 0’s childhood is in Indonesia.

For a birth mom, SAD sure didn’t seem to want her youngster, passing him off to grams and gramps to raise. But she kept her known birth daughter with herself.

In another direction, if 0 attended state school in Indo, this required Indo citizenship as Indo did not pay for the public education of foreigners. Indo did not grant dual-citizensship. This means that 0 would have had to apply for reacquisition of American citizenship when he turned 18 in Hawaii, or Cali, and if he missed the window, his natural-born citizenship was permanently kaput. He had the right to renounce his parents’ earlier actions, but did he do this? If DOS has no verifiable record, then he did not. (People want to see his college apps for good reason.) We know he used a stollen SS#. Given the ease of an American obtaining an SS# and card, 0’s action seems inexplicable. Unless he was not a U.S. citizen. Loretta F reportedly saw and handled 0’s BC. Funny how she died in a soft-water landing of a small plane where no one else was injured. Funny too that five of the six people who should have had detailed knowledge of 0’s early years died before he entered the public sphere (3 of them preternaturally young, quite the coincidence) and the only exception, grams, refused all interview requests, taking her secrets to the grave.

WA Root says he does not remember 0 at Columbia, nor does anyone he has talked to. Columbia had a relatively small undergraduate college and Root majored in Poli Sci, 0 ostensibly did too. Their graduation year is the same. Most classes after frosh/soph-intro had 15-30 students. Hard to miss a black student in such circumstances. Manchurian candidate? Some DNA testing would be interesting. FMD had other children, as did BO I and SAD. Actually, the databases are pretty good at identifying ancestral-origin regions as well.

People in our government, including the rnc, don’t care about our constitution. Ted Cruz isn’t a natural born citizen. Marco Rubio isn’t a natural born citizen. Niki Haley isn’t a natural born citizen. Many people in congress are dual citizens. During the “impeachment” hearings, I noticed how many people working high up in our government weren’t born here. Kamala Harris isn’t a natural born citizen. Ilan Omar’s family committed fraud to get here, and yet, there she sits, flipping us all off, while undermining our country.
When Obama won and we were up in arms about his citizenship, I remember a reporter asking dick armey if they were going to investigate. He said no, he was sure he was a citizen, but didn’t know why he wouldn’t release his birth certificate. Enough said. Republicans went along with it. I remember years ago reading an article which stated that anybody in our government caught looking into Obama’s background was fired. Sorry, can’t cite it, but it hit me at the time.

If you read my post, i was NOT basing it on poll numbers, I am basing it on trends. I have helped run campaigns since the early 80’s and it is very true that poll numbers mean NOTHING but TRENDS do. When it gets to actual voting, then it depends on INTENSITY of support and who gets their voters to vote.

Odds seem to be long against it, but what if there is no November election? If the lockdown continues, voting-by-mail is ripe for fraud. Cali D’s used ballot harvesting to steal R congressional seats in 2018. PDJT had 3.5 years of his duly-elected presidency stolen by unrelenting opposition, fraudulent “Russian collusion” investigation, and Shampeachment. I think he has earned a do-over and the opportunity to run in 2024 to complete two real terms.

Suppose a state of insurrection were declared. Martial law. Coup plotters including pro-impeachment and pro-removal House/Senators being sent to Gitmo for military tribunals.

Unthinkable? Humans fall into the spell of thinking things will just go on, more or less as they have gone on. “Conventional Wisdom.” Socialists have been undermining the Constitution for a century, using crafty ACLU and Lawfare lawyers to transmogrify America, but it’s still America, right?

But history shows that things roll on as they have been rolling–until they don’t. In the early 1770’s everybody knew that the American colonists would settle down, and the Crown and Parliament would prevail over them. In the early 1780’s France had turmoil, but the Crown survive. In the early 1980’s everybody knew that the Soviet Union would prevail over fractious members like Poland and Romania. After all, Hungary and Czechoslovakia had been “pacified”. In 2015-16 everybody knew Donald J Trump was a clown, a TV impresario who had no chance to become President.

One year ago, a state of lockdown and an intentional collapse of small businesses, and even our booming economy, was unthinkable. If some epidemic arose, the sick would be quarantined as per centuries-old tradition, If a mysterious disease that could transmit illness using asymptomatic carriers made quarantining of the identified-sick ineffective, well surely the response would be to isolate those at risk of being seriously harmed, the elderly and infirm, not the entire mass of healthy working Americans, for whom catching the disease was only a mild, non-fatal annoyance.

After that apparent blunder, carried out under the rubric, “We must flatten the curve to keep hospitals from being overwhelmed,” and it bore out that we had great excess healthcare capacity, surely only a lunatic would issue a new pronouncement, “We must maintain the lockdown until a vaccine is ready in a year or so.” That would be lunatic because the fast-mutating coronavirus will evolve into rapidly-reproducing and benign strains, which will find their place among other common-cold-causing coronaviruses, for which no vaccine based on today’s virus can be effective, and for which no vaccine will be necessary.

We have a lunatic tyrant in MI who proclaims, “You can buy produce handled by dozens of people, but not fruit and vegetable seeds to grow in your own garden which carry zero risk of transmitting Covid.” We have “enlightened elites who insist that the common people remain on lockdown, while they violate their own orders: “Do as I command, not as I do.” We have lunatic governors who send Covid patients to infect nursing home residents–our most vulnerable people. We have a lunatic health director who proclaims that the disease-tested-negative President is breaking the law not wearing a mask, when science informs us that N95 masks block viruses about as well as chain link fences block mosquitoes.

This is not the America we grew up in and cherish. We do not want a civil war. But we might accept a benevolent dictator.

I wouldn’t worry about the polls. People are frustrated with the reopening of the economy. Once that runs it’s course in the summer, Trump will be back on top. If Trump can deliver a vaccine by Sept or October, he’s unstoppable.

Still, we must get out the vote because of the potential voter fraud. Hopefully, the DoJ is all over it and is working with Trump campaign to monitor key districts around the country.

No worries. It is my firm belief that this election will be akin to Reagan II election in 1984.

His base is hasn’t left him… we have witnessed the injustice perpetrated against him, and vicariously to all of us. His support has only increased.

Have a look at Brad Parscale’s hard data of the new Trump supporter. Up to 30% haven’t voted in any recent presidential elections and between 25-30% of his new supporters are registered with the Democrat party. Those Republican voters who didn’t vote for Trump in 2016 because they thought he was actually a Democrat show-boating clown have been blown away by his conservative heart and libertarian tendencies. He truly loves America, this much is obvious, so those who didn’t vote for him earlier now will gladly pull that lever in his support.

There is a paradigm shift. People have woken up. The common people from both parties can’t stand what has happened to our country since the election of globalist Bush Sr.

Trump has exposed the Deep State enclaves of both parties and in so doing has endured more abuse than most of us can physically or mentally tolerate… that more than anything is what people are voting for… to justify and support this warrior… our warrior.

Mark Johnson: Bravo, I applaude your sentiment and yout concise writing style. I also commend your astute comment about George H. W. Bush. I have been harping on this for along time. It seems people are finally waking up to what he really was and the damage he did to our country.

No, it was the commie ex-president. It was his plan, and his toadies executed it. Now, they are trying to protect his a***. How ironic? They are tearing each other apart to protect the Kenyan. Comey is the stupidest person on earth.

Odumbo was definitely in on the whole perverse scheme. His liar was indeed creating “distance” because they knew what they had done. Did odumbo not reference information to sally yates that indicated he had information that came from knowledge of the call? Knowledge that probably came from intel who did listen to the call?
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odumbo authorized foreign intel – the Brits quite likely to intercept the General’s calls. Then he had his fbi magic up a “transcript” in order to cover for that. That’s why they had to get rid of General Flynn so quickly. They were afraid he either knew what they had done or will find out – Flynn is an intel guy. He knew odumbo was a bad, corrupt actor. He knew where to look for the “bodies”. They had to make sure he had no opportunity to “see” anymore and inform President Trump.

odumbo’s liar also went on television claiming she noes nuffin ’bout nuffin in order to create more distance. I bet she is now hoping those videos will disappear as well in light of the details of her “distancing” memo.

First, much thanks go to Sundance and the amazing group of posters on CTH. It has always seemed to me that there must be some larger reason for all this ridiculous behavior. To have all the hearings, a special prosecutor, years of deception like saying something under oath secretly, then the opposite in public, etc.

To do all this you have to be deranged or hiding something so big you were deranged to have done it. Perhaps it was an attempt to start a war. Just don’t be to sure that we have any ideal what this is all about. Yet.

Search “16 year plan to destroy America”. The first 8 were Obummer, the second 8 were SUPPOSED to be HRC”. This plan was so insidious it will make you sick. It involved Uranium One, the Iran deal, Syria, and nuclear weapons.

They haven’t stopped yet, have they? The chemical attacks in Syria are what I expected to unravel the cover up. Maybe Fast and Furious, you know AmLo was asked to request the explanation, or knew the request was wanted.

Ideology not necessarily personality…it is their religion, the golden calf of progressives and the elitist…They bow down to it everyday, Obama is the profit, seer and revelator of the New World Order…Obama is the President of the United Deep State of America and rules with an iron fist…forever?

Makes sense. Nothing else in any investigation into the Trump campaign was based on primary evidence so why would they use a real transcript. Everything they are using is filtered. Papadapoulos conversation is filtered through two people. Page information is filtered through Steele and his sources and sub sources. Manafort info was filtered through Ukrainian sources. And the granddaddy of them all the DNC leak was filtered through Crowdstrike. Extra layers at every turn and as Page once said “all they had was a single photograph” of him at an event in Russia as real primary evidence.

If the transcript or lack of a transcript proves to be the mechanism that protects Obama at Comey’s expense then I think that will give great clarity to Barr’s comments the other day. As I speculated at the time I think Barr was telling Obama that he had better deploy his defense and figure out who is going under the bus. A cornered Comey will be interesting. I highly doubt that he will go down quietly.

Corroborating Sundance’s assessment: The Mueller report excerpt above presents a summary of the Flynn calls with Kislyak. Footnotes 1248, 1249, 1250 are given to describe the source of these “facts”. Do these refer to “transcripts? Nope. Do these refer to “CR-Cuts”, summaries, etc. Nope. They all refer to “Flynn Statement of Offense” (i.e., Flynn’s plea deal with Van Grack). Does Flynn Statement of Offense cite any evidence to support its assertions about what Flynn discussed with Kislyak? Nope. The whole thing is a shell game founded on thin air.

Both the transcripts of all Flynn’s calls with Kislyak, AND the exact “Cuts” produced by the FBI need to be released, to allow comparison of the two. Who generated the “Cuts”? Were the original versions edited and, if so, by whom? Did Clapper and the WH receive accurate summaries? Showing they were not is likely what Susan Rice wants.

Van Grack appears to have held no actual evidence to indict Flynn with. How does he justify prosecuting Flynn for lying, when he cannot produce either the transcripts or the Cuts or the original 302s? The ONLY evidence in the Flynn case is Flynn’s statement against himself.

btw, the Grandpa Mueller Report is loaded with such Weissman-isms; quoting news reports of documents rather than the documents themselves, or third-hand quotes rather than sources, etc. More thin-air prestidigitation.

The 2016 election saved this country but most of that win was buried by continued uniparty attacks (judges were the only real win). 2020 will be where we see some payback and a continued draining of the swamp/uniparty. For that to truly happen we need to get the presidency plus both houses and remove Mitch.

The point is Obama gave Clapper a presidential order to obtain the following:

“In early January 2017 DNI James Clapper was asked by the White House to find out why the Russians were not escalating the issue over sanctions by reacting with more ferocity to the action of President Obama.”

Clapper’s interpretation of the White House order was to get “tech cuts” from Comey.

We all know, Comey sent “tech cuts” to Clapper who in turn provided them to Obama.

Who authorized the “tech cuts”, to be collected? We know, Comey authorized their use by sending them to Clapper..

The authorization for their order was presidential (The White House). Did former President Obama have the authority. Well, yes but how is such an order to be applied according to the Law.

If I recall correctly, such an order, had to come through the AG and the AG at the time, was Yates.

Yates shows up at the 1/5/2017 meeting and surprise, we just when around you? They broke the law?

Wouldn’t Comey have been suspicious of Obama throwing him under the bus after the debacle with the Hillary email investigation in the last days leading up to the election? Was this the first time Comey and Obama were fact to face after that? Wasn’t Obama pissed off at Comey?

Rescuing the Iranian Regime is THE reason Obama ran for office. Once he was safely re-elected, the mask came off. Barry needed Putin’s help to sell the Iran Deal. Putin’s price: no arms for Ukraine.

Arms for ISIL was part of the plan for a Brotherhood Calphate from Tehran to Tripoli. Flynn knew all this and was talking. They took him out to silence him and leave all their Swamp Rat seditionists in place, which they did with Session’s help.

Rings exactly true. Isn’t it odd that, when those of any political stripe point out that O bombed more countries than anyone since WWII — yet they never conclude that his goal was the Caliphate? That’s pretty important motivation to just ignore.

This entire production by Rice in asking for the transcripts is reminding me of something…..oh yeah….the Ukraine Hoax. I’m sure General Flynn’s call was also “perfect,” with Kislyak, yet in asking to release the transcripts, they will somehow find a way to make it nefarious.

If they could do it (shampeachment) over a “prefect” call to President Trump (who even had corroboration from Biden’s own corrupt mouth in that interview that Biden was the Quid-Pro_quo person), then who is General Flynn? It’s so discouraging!

Per Rice, Obama asked Comey to inform him “of anything that changes in the next few weeks that should affect how we share classified information with the incoming team”.
In the Kislyak calls, Flynn had fended off Obama’s attempt to put US-Russian relations into a deep hole, and he rallied votes to stop an anti-Israeli measure at the UN. I think Obama wanted to starve the incoming administration of info on Obama’s attempts to poison wells on his way out, so that Flynn could not evert the damage.

Stepping stone towards PDJT, first we **** Flynn then we **** Trump.
Or alternatively they chose Gen. Flynn to be the first to be attacked because they saw him as the most immediate danger at that time.
I am still undecided about their choice.

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I always felt that Obama was too politically savvy to put himself in a position of liability. Even Capone maintained degrees of separation. It always seemed likely that the Rice email-to-self was designed for that purpose, or to protect herself. With the redaction it was clear that it was to protect the White House in general.

But what’s interesting to me -aside from the likelihood that there was never a transcript created, which I hadn’t considered- is the hastiness of the Rice email and the seeming lack of “legalese.” They conceivably could decipher a calendar and understood that the 20th of January was approaching, yet she waited until 12:15pm that day to write the email? In language that seems “hurried” to me. Is it possible that right up until the moment of the oath, they thought there still might be a way to prevent it? I don’t want to say that the assassin chickened out because there are no black helicopters circling my apartment at the moment, but did the “insurance policy” not actually occur, thus this run back into her office with the White House Counsel and the resultant hastily-concocted CYA memo? Did the “arresting agent” refuse to follow Comey’s orders? Did the media not publish the BS documents fed to them? Did the AP not break the fake news that was fed to them that morning? The Rice email reads like an “oh sh*t, he’s actually got his hand on the Bible” moment, to me.

100% agree that Rice calling for the release of the mystery transcript is a further CYA measure. It won’t show Flynn as undermining the US, so it can only reflect poorly on Comey, creating that distance between he and the White House.

I believe she surmised it would be “hidden” until such time as she needed to bring it out. How? Well I believe she thought that by waiting until 12:15 – 15 minutes into the Trump administration – that it would not be considered by anyone searching to consider asking the Trump WH to search their records for such a document….That any search by Congress would be limited to “Obama administration” records and that had that been the only direction, they would have come up empty. Congress has a special exception and can request documents from a PRIOR administration easily — but asks permission from the WH of a CURRENT administration, who can deny it if it falls under executive privilege. Obama knew if Rice recorded it in his OWN administration’s records, GOP congressmen would find it. But by Rice sending it AFTER his administration is over, they THOUGHT it would not be discovered. I believe they wanted it “just in case” so they could say Trump has been “sitting” on this evidence all along – after all, it’s in HIS administration’s records!

That was thrown for a loop when out of the blue, Grassley and Graham SOMEHOW discovered there was this CYA letter or something out there and went looking, and asked from both the Trump WH and the Obama’s records at the National Archives. Somehow Grassley and Graham found out she wrote this letter on Inauguration day because they were smart enough to search in both places. I believe they likely heard the rumor of the letter in the halls of congress by loose-lips democrats. Most likely. I don’t think they ever wanted this letter out there until they absolutely had to bring it out. Fortunately for us, our guys discovered it and received it in June 2017, but inexplicably, sat on it for 8 months (see https://www.businessinsider.com/graham-grassley-had-susan-rice-email-months-before-letter-2018-2?op=1 ).

Also, FWIW, I believe the letter was either automatically sent to the Archives even though it was recorded during the Trump adm., or it wasn’t initially sent there, was discovered after Grassley and Graham asked, and the WH forwarded it to the Archives because it is an Obama record and that way the Congressional request would be responded to by the National Archives. This could be the reason it took so long to get the copy, and possibly why it took 8 months for Grassley and Graham to bring it up.

True. The IC doesn’t have all the transcripts/summaries….it wasn’t our product. It’s odd that @AdamSchiff doesn’t know this. But I already started the declassification for the few we received. They should be released in full, though. The public deserves to see it. https://t.co/Inj8etyCZv

The Michael Flynn issue was, from its very beginnings, a sideshow, featuring a bunch of clowns trying to make themselves seem relevant to their boss, Obama. Today, that’s what the law seems , in essence, to be concluding.

IMO, this continuing deep dive into the Michael Flynn issue is a mistake. And trying to sort out who said what to who, when, is an effort that seems to go nowhere. At worst, that conversation is a diversion from talking about the real deal – the hellacious power that was publicly released on those same dates. That would be the release of the Dossier. The effects of which are just as significant today and which will continue to be important as the Flynn issue fades away.

If your objective was a Trump OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE charge that would lead to IMPEACHMENT, there needed to be at least the appearances of an Investigation. And what better way to establish that than with a number of high profile convictions. The “low information” public would not need to know/ or understand the details of the convictions, and the MSM (aka Rachel Maddow) would have been able to refer to Flynn as “convicted felon, Mike Flynn” in every sentence to steamroll through the narrative.

“In early January 2017 DNI James Clapper was asked by the White House to find out why the Russians were not escalating the issue over sanctions by reacting with more ferocity to the action of President Obama.”

Which we (I) know is a lie — the central lie to the false prosecution of Flynn, in fact — because common sense tells us they should not have been concerned over the lack of Russian reaction to their last-minute actions, because the Russians had no reason to be concerned by the fake (and merely Obama-hysteria-serving) narrative of a truly lame-duck President on his way out the door. The only reason the Obamanuts use this reason, rather obviously, is because they already knew Flynn had talked with the Russians in that infamous call, and they wanted to frame it as “Cause for (Greatest, no fooling!) Concern”. So they front-load that fake concern — as they have done throughout their persecutions of President Trump. All they have ever shown they have is their fake “grave concerns” — and that is, in particular, all OBAMA has ever shown, in all of his “presidential” edicts, all these years. He just keeps going to that (fake) well, as the little boy who always(!) cried “wolf!”

Exactly. They knew they were lame ducks. PUTIN knew they were lame ducks. He was probably saying to his underlings “can you believe that dumb azz pulling this chit on the way out the door? There’s no way Trump is going to follow anything that Idiot Muslim did.”

I’m surprised Kislyak did not tell Flynn on that phone call that the Russians had no intention of reacting to a narcissist has been trying to sabotage the in coming president.

Why would Rice, Obama, any of the parties not just cut Comey loose outright and say the guy is off the rails? Why be coy about it? To me, the only reason someone would not sever their association with a boat anchor is if that boat anchor is somehow wedged safely in a way that protects said person. Perhaps Comey has dirt on these people, and they can only lightly deflect direct accusations by saying “not me”. But, if they said “Comey”, he’d probably rat. ??

You have to remember they were all in it together and who knows how far back? With the original 702 abuses uncovered by Admiral Mike Rogers (DNSA) and possibly the Hillary email investigation and… But to prove all that, requires a “paper trail” (or text messages as we are seeing now). So, if you are planning to rob a bank and hire an accomplice, make sure you give the gun to the accomplice, because if you both get caught, you can say it was your accomplice’s idea (he was holding the gun).

Hussein is a micromanager. He knew about E-ver-y-thing. Ok, let’s say he didn’t “know.” Scum like that don’t need to “say” or “request” anything. Each person chosen to/agreeing to work for that kind of a “boss” already knows what said “boss” is like. And what he expects. Without him having to say a word.

It’s called “Working towards the Fuehrer.” There’s no evidence that Hitler himself had any knowledge of the death camps. He didn’t have to. The entire scheme was planned at the Wannsee Conference by people 2-3 layers below him. They had no specific authorization to do it, but they believed that their actions were consistent with Hitler’s intent.

I always thought Lois Lerner was the prime example. We were never going to find any evidence that she was directed to obstruct the tax exemption of Tea Party groups, because there was no such evidence. She was just doing her duty to Obama as she saw it and needed no specific authorization. Here’s another example: the Office of the Comptroller of Currency, which regulates banks, told banks that loans to oil and gas companies would be downgraded in terms of the banks’ required assets, so lending for oil exploration became tight. Another one: the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration proposed a rule that would require every municipal gas system to x-ray its pipes or be shut down, even though no x-ray device small enough to fir in a municipal gas pipe exists (thankfully, the Trump Administration was able to kill that one). Thousands and thousands of little Lerners throughout the EPA, the Department of Education, the Labor Department, the SEC, you name it. All working in the direction of the Fuehrer.

In reading Lee Smith’s excellent article in The Tablet Magazine, I came across two names that caught my eye….former DIA analyst Oubai Shahbandar, who served in Iraq under Flynn in 2007-08 and in Afghanistan in 2010-11, and Michael Pregent, a former Army intelligence officer tasked by Flynn in looking for ties between al-Qaida and Iran in the docs confiscated upon Bin Laden’s death.

Ironically, I happened across Shahbandar’s podcast “Porte” a couple of weeks ago, and there are 2 episodes in particular that will make the hair on the back of your neck stand up.

IMO, Obama targeting Flynn is ALL ABOUT IRAN. NOTHING ELSE BUT OBAMA’S OBSESSION WITH THE IRAN DEAL. Why???? I don’t buy the simple ValJar/muslim allegiance conjecture with which we’re all familiar. It’s deeper/broader than that.

Now seeing today’s filing w/DC Court of Appeals by “The Watergate Prosecutors” Amicae, is further confirmation the desperation driving this is much more serious than a vengeful obama. They’ll never leave him alone.
PRAY FOR THE FLYNN FAMILY.

Episode 1, April 8 – Jay Solomon, author of the 2016 book release “The Iran Wars”.
Apparently Solomon was the reporter who broke the story of pallets of cash obama delivered to Iran. He talks about his investigative work on Iran’s covert nuclear program and what went wrong with the Obama administration’s negotiations with Iran.
NOTE: At times, you have to overlook his soft pedal, bordering on hero worship, explaining away obama/admin obsession with the JCPOA. Shahbandar does a good job of reining him back to reality whereby Solomon offers the behind closed doors machinations of obama/Kerry’s irrational focus on nothing BUT getting the deal done.
Solomon offers the best historical (unknown/unreported) timelines, his convo’s w/obama spin doctors (Ben Rhodes), as well as spills the beans on his fellow “journalists” getting paid by Soros funded Think Tank Ploughshares.

Episode 2 – April 17 – Michael Pregent.
Pregent lays out Obama’s turncoat moves in Iraq, including turning over US major captives held in Iraq, of Iran’s top terrorists with American blood on their hands (affiliated with Qasem Soleimani) over the period of 2009-2011, all to appease Iran. Pregent also spills the beans on who in DC is making money off keeping Afghanistan/Iraq wars ongoing, namely Brett McGurk!

Episode 4 – May 10 Interview w/Ekim Alptekin, a former associate of General Flynn , who was also accused of allegedly serving as an agent of a foreign government. Now that General Flynn’s case has been thrown of out court, Ekim reveals what was really behind the FBI and prosecutors’ zeal to go after him and General Flynn and what General Flynn’s acquittal ultimately means for deeply entrenched political interests in Washington.

Doppler, I couldn’t possibly do either the Solomon or Pregent interviews justice. They are approx 1 hour in length and (Alptekin 23 min). I tossed that one in as it was recorded the day Flynn found out DOJ was dismissing charges.

I would putting these aside for when you do have time. I listen to various podcasts as I’m putzing around doing chores, etc. I get more accomplished and I enjoy hearing it “word of mouth” with inflection etc,.

As much as we all probably know about obama’s sneaky underhanded lies throughout his 2 terms in getting the JPCOA “by any means necessary”, there are shocking details in these two episodes that I’d wager most ppl are unawares, as well as cost American lives.

It now makes more sense to me as to why, if Flynn has knowledge of all of the details laid out in these interviews (and I’m sure he does), obama/Kerry/IC have Flynn in their sites and are hell bent on keeping him “contained”.

I would bet it goes deeper than that. The JPCOA was an existential threat to Israel’s existence and from Lee Smith’s Tablet piece we can see the Obama was going full bore at Netanyahu with the American intel. community. It would be naive to think that Netanyahu was just standing around letting all that happen, especially given his overt support for Mitt Romney in 2012 and his falling out with HRC.

(Instead of overt support last time, how about covert support this time?)

As we have seen from Congressional testimony, there was no proof Russia hacked either the DNC or Podesta. The next question to ask is: “If not the Russians, then who (or what)?” And what nation would reap the benefit (and has now) of a Trump presidency or a greatly weakened Clinton Administration? (follow the bouncing ball)

*PS: This is the kind of thing that leads to finding persons mysteriously shot in the back, in what is claimed to be a botched robbery, and the police have no real interest in getting to the bottom of it.

All speculation of course… but somehow, if you don’t believe in coincidences in DC, the dots are all connected.

Tossing Bibi under the bus, passing intel we collected on Israel to the ayatollah, is common knowledge.
The Solomon and Pregent interviews are chock full of disgusting treasonous actions by obama.
I don’t toss the word treason around lightly.

He, his State Dept, Ben Rhodes and complicit reporters should all hang. A firing squad is too quick.

To believe that Obama didn’t know about the surveillance of Flynn and the Trump campaign, you have to ignore the Strzok-Page texts. Those text messages, made long before the election, indicated clearly that the White House knew about it. Strzok was probably told this from Brennan or another contact in the C!A,

Exactly, Brian in CA4. All of these intrigues have to be looked at as a whole. Besides that, we can’t ignore that Obama’s true nature, not the MSM version, was/is a vindictive thin-skinned angry hater with many political enemies he was determined to destroy.

Prepare to become educated in how the C_A operates through its implants in all the major agencies to run the government according to its plans, rather than according to the Constitution. OR NOT. The partial hangout version is all we’ll get

I always thought that two of the evilest things (among many) that Obamaumau did was Fast and Furious and the Iranian pallets of cash deal. Will he ever be brought to justice? Nope. The Uniparty will never hold him criminally responsible.The Democrats will protect him and the Republicans pee their pants when labeled racist. But Brennan, Clapper, Comey- fair game.

Sundance makes sense that Rice was trying to create “distance” between Obama and Comey with her memo. She was trying to protect the administration (and herself) at the expense of Comey if any of what they were up to backfired, as is happening now. But Obama cannot distance himself from this. He does not appear to have ever directly asked for the evidence against Flynn. The answer as we know would have been there was none. At that point, Obama should have instructed Comey to shut down the investigation. Then he would have had “distance”. But the fact that he never did is what implicates him. It is irrelevant whether he ordered the investigation or just allowed it to proceed. He knew about it, knew there was no evidence, took no action to stop it, and in doing so gave his approval for it to proceed. He was complicit. There can be no distance.

However, I am using common sense to be unworried, because I am confident that anything that made Trump look bad would have already been leaked and included in the Mueller report and the charges against Flynn.

I think my common sense makes more sense than your common sense, so we can agree to disagree.

Neither of us knows. Maybe Warner is suffering from the same thing that Rice is suffering from, i.e., doing something that undermines Obama is a crime.

I suspect the “transcript”, if it exists, is just a Rorschach test of one’s existing world view.

as already mentioned i have my questions on comey releasing hillary’s emails right before the election.why then?something fishy there.if they had something on comey and he retaliated by releasing those emails to hurt hillary and help trump get elected, why would they continue to work with him,its almost like they wanted trump to win just so they could set him up for the fall,take trump and pence out then look whos president.paul ryan thats a win in their book.

IMO, that was done to protect clinton, not damage her. There was already so much info against her in the public domain, that this was damage control. Do a quick fake investigation of her, release the info that she was sloppy, but not criminal, and move along, nothing to see here folks.

I’d like to see a different example of Priestap’s hand-written notes next to this sample people say is Priestap’s writing on that day in the oval office. Was this paper found in Priestap’s file, and has he confirmed, “Yes, that’s me, I wrote it”. The writing is similar to Barak Obama’s hand-written notes.

I’m confused. So is Obama directly admitting that the reason he imposed sanctions on Russia in the final days of his administration was to PROVOKE Russia into retaliating, just in time for Trump to be sworn in and have to clean up the mess? Because that’s sure what I’m hearing in these exchanges. “Why isn’t Russia retaliating like we planned? Go and find out why they aren’t retaliating?”

It also sounds like this was a trap, just all the obstruction of justice traps, that Obama set to try to provoke TRUMP and team (including Flynn) into doing or saying something that they could then object to and pounce on?

I think the reason we have so much trouble believing all of this is because it is so transparently corrupt. There is nothing subtle about it. They were actually rather stupid people, in addition to being evil.

They weren’t stupid. Far from it. It’s just they knew their actions would be excused or condoned or covered up by their acolytes in the MSM. Plus any attempts to explain or prove the criminality would be spun as political retribution if not in fact a federal offense.

When Obama ordered Clapper. In effect, Obama made a presidential order that should have gone through the AG at the time, Yates. They by passed the AG and when directly to the FBI. Here is the Law. This seems to mean Obama broke the law. Because Obama knew he had to o through the AG.

(1) Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that

Another reason Rice wants to release the “transcript” or something similar:

In their minds, and the minds of the Reziztanz, it is a crime for Trump to want to change policies with Russia from their policies. They think it is a crime that their wants, desires and power is anything but permanent and immutable.

Rice thinks it’s damning that Trump and team didn’t want to keep the BS going with antagonism toward Russia for the simple reason that all these people think that a different opinion than their own is criminal.

Their mindless followers support their corrupt and authoritarian views and desires.

You are correct that they operate in a different reality than we do. I think that’s one reason Barr is so cautious, because in the end a DC or NOVA jury pool that operates in that reality is going to have to be convinced beyond reasonable doubt that a crime was committed. That is what we’re dealing with.

Bkeyser, WOW interesting take. I get the feeling that there have been many moments when the opposition has felt like, “we got him this time” only to miss. I really think that the deep state felt like they were going to remove the President one way or another at any minute. That was why the full court press on foreign governments not to deal with the new administration because it wasn’t going to be there for very long.

There are Strzok text messages talking about the “insurance policy”. Why have Strzok and Page and anyone else who spoke of the “insurance policy” never been asked under oath what this “insurance policy” was? The Senate has the power do do this … or were members of the Senate in on the “insurance policy” too?

It struck me as typical RAT reaction that Yates and the others in the BHO administration complained the Russians were not reacting to the sanctions as the RAT cabal had anticipated. I see this as a symptom of the liberal mental disease because it is typical for RATS to think their actions and behavior can control the actions and behavior of others. For example, BHO changed Cuba policy and expected the Cuban Government to morph into a democracy. Not only did they not become a democracy, the Cuban government clamped down even more on dissidents.

Sanctions was a ploy to TRAP TRUMP via FLYNN in a quid pro quo with Russia. Once they had Trump violating law on the Obama clock, they could IMPEACH TRUMP or heck, not allow him to swear in. Arrest Trump and Flynn and the media would cheer. Then, Swear in PENCE. Quickly move on PENCE vis à vis his statements to the PUBLIC about how Pence had lied to the public about the sanctions. In other words, that question was a set up to create future chaos. Then IMPEACH PENCE.

And BINGO….PRESIDENT PELOSI. And all would be well again in the Kingdom.

jay: I don’t think the dems would have cared that much if Pence was President. He would not have been a threat to them and he wouldn’t have been reelected. They could continue their scams and doing end runs around the republicans in congress. It would just be a short pause on their main agenda.