Casby, DeRosa And Casey

Cyrus Casby of Marrero, LA was acquitted in 2008 of killing 4 people including his 19-month old daughter. On November 10, 2004 he set the apartment on fire after stabbing his 17yo girlfriend Cynthia Carto 21 times and slashing 3 other victims, 19 mo Cyanna Carto, 33yo Janice Carto and Janice Carto’s 11yo son Cleveland McGinnis. He also injured her 10yo son Jarvis Carto. The boy was left with irreversible brain damage due to carbon monoxide poisoning. Casby was also charged with injury to a firefighter Walter Allen.

At his trial, Jefferson Parish prosecutors presented evidence showing a witness spotted Casby fleeing the scene of the fire. Prosecutors said Casby went to his parents’ home in Marrero, and in a neighbor’s backyard, they found Casby’s clothing soiled with gasoline and blood matching one of the victims. Casby returned to the fire scene later, where he was arrested and confessed to detectives that he acted in self defense.

Casby claimed during four hours of interrogation, he was beaten, choked and shocked with a Taser. He gave three recorded statements. The jury never got a clear explanation of what happened when the tape recorder was off. Defense attorney Jim Williams questioned it and asked detectives why there was no video which may have been problematic for the jurors. However, it is not the policy of Jefferson Parish Sheriff’s Office to use video to record interrogations, only audio.

Nevertheless, among the 325 pieces of evidence, a confession, an eyewitness and victim’s DNA on clothing linking Casby to the November 10, 2004 stabbing and arson, this was not enough. A jury deliberated an hour and 40 minutes before acquitting him of all four counts of second degree murder. Surprisingly, only two jurors voted for conviction.

Cyrus Casby’s freedom was short lived. In late July 2011, he was paid a visit by the Feds.
In a rarely used maneuver prosecutors reserve for cases that “cry out for another prosecution” the Federal authorities have re-indicted Cyrus Casby. He was found living in another state when he got the good news.
His attorney, Jim Williams said he was shocked to find out he had been indicted by the Federal court.

Troy DeRosa was accused of killing 3 people and attempting to kill a 4th during a home invasion on Nov. 23, 2003. Jim Williams, with lawyer Brian Evans won an acquittal for DeRosa eight months earlier which was one of the reasons the Casby family hired him. Both Casby and DeRosa claimed they were beaten, coerced confessions with threats and physical abuse.

Mr. DeRosa’s freedom didn’t last 24 hours. One day after being acquitted of the Metairie triple murder, Troy DeRosa was booked with a 2000 killing of a disabled man in his Kenner home. The city of Kenner is also part of Jefferson Parish.
Kenner police filed a first-degree murder charge against DeRosa in the death of Howard Delahoussaye, a horse trainer who was shot five times in the head and shoulders. Delahoussaye, who had no legs, was found slumped over a chair in his living room at 632 Ronson Drive on April 8, 2000. Police think it was a drug-related homicide.
But in March 2008, prosecutors, apparently faced with witnesses who were jailed, were unable to bring the case to a grand jury, leading a judge to order DeRosa released on the charge.

Jefferson Parish much like Orange County, were not prepared for these scandalous acquittals especially when Casby’s trial in May 2008 came to an end. Both of these cases were high-profile, multiple-murders. Both were lost within an eight month period of September 2007- May 2008.

Orange County felt the burn much like Jefferson Parish when the city of Kenner immediately charged DeRosa with a 7 year old murder case after his acquittal. After Anthony’s acquittal, Orange County immediately went to miscounting her days to freedom subsequent her July 5th acquittal. Even though she had served nearly 3 years in a locked cell, in solitary confinement, they refused to allow her to walk out of the front door of the courthouse as her attorney Cheney Mason predicted. As I recall, it was first announced her release date would be July 13th but the next day it changed to July 17th.

From there it went to her having Casey Anthony serve a second probation even though there were documents proving she served probation while in jail for unrelated check fraud charges.
Judge Stan Strickland, a recused judge of her case claimed his orders were misunderstood. He claimed he ordered Casey to start probation on the day she was released from jail. Her acquittal was something he obviously did not consider. This order was fought in court. This order was lost in court. Casey Anthony is now in her 2nd month of one-year probation.
What seems like more vindictiveness, Casey Anthony now has to pay over $217,000 to Orange County Florida. This is for the time and money spent used to search for her daughter Caylee when she lied to detectives before being informed of her Miranda rights.

What are those magic words?

“You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to be speak to an attorney, and to have an attorney present during any questioning. If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be provided for you at government expense.”

I wonder if Casey Anthony had heard those words at Universal Studios, if she would have continued to talk to that nice cop Appie Wells? Or those two mean cops Melich and Allen? Probably not, I think hearing those words, Casey Anthony would have used her good sense and kept her mouth shut. She was playing nice girl because she thought they were being nice to her but I think they knew Caylee Anthony was already dead because of the smell of the car. If I believe that the detectives were telling the truth when they were on the stand and swore Casey’s car trunk smelled like human decomposition then I have to believe the reason for bringing Casey Anthony to Universal Studios was to confront her with her lies and garner a confession. It was supposed to be a really Big Day for OCSO.

Yes, it is human nature to be vindictive. No one likes to lose. Everyone despises murderers, particularly those that involve defenseless children. We all want justice for those whose lives were viciously cut short because of the evil intentions of another individual/s. We are outraged when our judicial system seems to fail us but did it really fail or did it work in the Anthony case?

After those two shocking acquittals, Jefferson Parish justice authority pondered the questions “why” and “how” did this happen in 2007-2008. They checked the percentages of the past few years.
In 2007, 81% were found guilty. In 2006, there was a 93% conviction rate, a spike from 2005 when the courts operated only 8 months of the year because of Hurricane Katrina. In 2005, juries convicted 82%. In 2004, it was 88% conviction.

Presently, there’s another threat lurking in the wings of this never ending Casey Anthony saga. There’s a petition with thousands of signatures begging the Federal government to try her again for the same crime. With news of Cyrus Casby upcoming Federal trial, the petitioners are hopeful Anthony will be retried as well.

Today Anthony is facing various frivolous lawsuits stemming from her “lie” told to detectives during interrogation. Casey Anthony in a recent interview with People Magazine explained she fears for her life while living in the United States and may have to move out of the country.

Although both Anthony and Casby were accused and acquitted of horrendous crimes and both high-profile cases, in Casby’s case there is physical evidence unlike Anthony’s.
As for Casey Anthony, although some are hopeful that the Outcry Petition will be fruitful, I beg to disagree. In the Cyrus Casby quadruple murder case there’s a confession, there’s victim DNA on his clothing, and an eye witness who saw him fleeing the scene. In the Anthony case there is none of the above, only a heart wrenching story of a beautiful child who is no longer with us, Caylee Anthony. There seems to be no end in sight for Casey Anthony.

Citizens Beware; Being acquitted isn’t as sweet as it seems

If you are accused of a crime against a child regardless of shoddy evidence, lack of DNA, fingerprints or eye witnesses it seems you’re doomed to suffer a lifetime of hatred. I’m not sure if that’s fair to any United States citizen.

The justice system should be accountable for their indictments and ensure that when they accuse someone of a crime that they have it right the first time and not hinge on the coattails of the victim’s innocence to garner sympathy and outrage in order to attain a conviction.

Snipped:

District Attorney Paul Connick Jr. alludes to what prosecutors call the “CSI Effect,” in which some people have skewed views of the criminal justice system based on what they see in popular television crime dramas.
Mr Connick, (cousin to Harry Connick Jr) added, “They develop what I would say are unrealistic expectations with regard to the collection and examination of evidence in cases,” he said. “And it could be one or two jurors who sway others who don’t watch the show. It’s not what’s supposed to happen.”

Incidentally, I most likely would be one of those two jurors.
Here we are in 2011 and with a ridiculous amount of scientific studies and forensic methodology, getting away with murder isn’t simply getting rid of witnesses and changing the color of your hair. Eye witness testimony is one of the major reasons that the Innocence Project exist. Being an eye witness can be a self serving act if the individual is in need of a favor. No one wants to go to prison, so things can be worked out. It’s the nature of the business.

Before the “CSI Effect” there were fictional law enforcement characters such as Dirty Harry and Popeye Doyle when we sat in movie theaters and applauded their actions. We all suffered from “The ends justified the means” mentality. In that era we were joyful and happy feeling all warm cozy, thinking we got the Bad Guy.
Thanks to Frank Serpico and his underground investigation into the NYPD, I can’t help but wonder how many possible innocent individuals went to prison in the 70s and 80s on false confessions and lying eye witnesses. We haven’t a clue but with the Innocence Project working hard in every state, we’re slowing finding out.

As of October 27, 2010 there have been 138 exonerations in 26 different States.

266 Comments:

Hi Justice For Casey,
I hope you don’t mind but I snatched this comment from the other thread.
This really changes the game doesn’t it! Very good point.
ps: I’ll keep you in my prayers too Addie. Get Well Soon!

This latest ruling by JP was predictable. appalling but predictable . I’m sure that the Great State of Florida means this to be a vindictive punishment for Casey , but the far reaching effects are SCARY for every american.
1. This will now be a bargaining tool for LE to coerce confessions , from suspects that would normally risk a jury trial
2. Politically motivated arrests will probably increase.
3. We will probably see many high priced Proffesional witnesses able to charge any fee they want.
4. Police agencies will now have contests to see which one can “run up the bill” the highest.

I see NO checks and balances to this new “Moneymaker” . I have never seen or heard of this practice of charging a defendant for investigation or prosecution costs . This is another abberation of the Casey Anthony case. I have lost track of how many distinct differences there were between this case and ANY other case EVER !

As much as I just want this to “Go Away” for Casey’s sake , I think it just MUST be Contested !
I wonder if KCA will ever draw a free breath ?

I believe the strategy here is to Force Casey to earn some money by giving interviews , writing a book , or by some other means. Anything she does will be criticized and seen as ” Just More Lies”
and the inevitable ” How Dare She make money off of Caylee’s death” ( only the G’Parents have that right !) This has been an UGLY case from the start , and Hatred has called every shot . We have lost a significant tenet of our constitution if this is allowed to stand . The state has the burden of proof , which I always believed included bearing the costs of investigation and prosecution . The haters will say ” I don’t care as long as it hurts Casey”
THIS CASE SCREAMS FOR A COMPLETE JUDICIAL REVIEW.

ADDIE , My prayers are with you tonite , stay strong . You are very much loved here and everywhere.

As ALWAYS, a very good article, and Dont forget about the recent WM3 ordeal. The Pros even stated that he wasnt sure that he could get a conviction with a new trial although he felt that the men were guilty. SO with the little used ALford Plea it saved grace for the State and the men were released. Its very clear that they knew they couldnt win a new trial, proof of that is THEY RELEASED A DEATH ROW INMATE and 2 Life Sentence Inmates!

OK, Hypothetically, what will they have left of evidence IF they were to try Casey on a Federal level? They have returned the personal stuff back to Cindy and George (I remb they requested it, I just assume they now have it back) The Car is GONE, umm what else? Oh and there was the FBI contaminated duct tape, 1 search for Chloroform. And IMO on Cindy’s work record that brought back in by her employer, it showed that she was on the clock when the search was suppose to have been done, BUT If I remember correctly (please correct if I am wrong please) When Jose asked Cindys supervisor about the time card of the day that SHE told Cindy to GO HOME, the day that they picked up the car from the impound… IT SHOWED SHE WAS ON THE CLOCK, I will go find the video, I remember that because I did payroll for many yrs. I think this would be a case of be careful what you wish for. The FBI didnt request any repayment for their part of involvement. A new trial could bring out A LOT. Would the powers that be want that? Just wondering. Off to see if I can find the video, I dont want to mis speak so If I am wrong I will own it.

Well, they know she was broke, she is broke, she was indigent, they agreed to that. It is not that they want future earnings from her, it is that they want her to regret or have no motive to earn in the future. They basically want her to be caught between a rock and a hard spot for the rest of her life. They are sore losers and they are afraid to admit that they got it wrong. The individuals driving the train, have no consequences to suffer. As we do in our daily lives, we suffer for each consequence, yet these people can force torture on innocent people and suffer no consequences for it, even if they spend millions of tax payer dollars, they are immuned. makes me sick.

I think I am going to write my congressman and ask for an oversight committee for a couple of years to evaluate over zealous spending by each entity, the court, the SAO and the LE. Who is to stop any county or sao from spending thousands of man hours on a high profile case? With the overwhelming support for authority, who is to watch big brother and check and balance? The grand jury?

Quick update on Dear ADDIE… she is going home tomorrow, her words ” lets just say we came to an agreement” lol her response when I asked if she were well enough, Please continue to keep her and her family in your prayers. They have been thru so much. She misses us all and said keep up the good Sleuthing!

Thank you Mimi,
Oh without a doubt Mimi, the Arkansas prosecutors didn’t stand a chance of getting another conviction on the West Memphis 3. I closely followed that case and I could not be happier that they are all free. What I gathered from one of the books I read, Misskelley who has a very low IQ, actually thought that if he pointed to Damian and Jason, he’d get the $40,000 reward which is a whole lot of money for his family. IIRC, his father encouraged him and that’s how the ball got rolling. In the end, Misskelley was given a life sentence as well. Something he didn’t expect. So yes, I’m happy they took the Alford plea because I know in my heart that they are not guilty. Who wouldn’t want freedom?
Good for them!
Wow, now I’m wondering.. I don’t think there’s much physical evidence to begin with. The car went to the cruncher…hmm.. That in itself raises my suspicions. In any case, I don’t think the Feds will touch this case. It’s not like the Casby case at all. IMO, Casby is more than likely guilty. As for DeRosa? I don’t feel there was enough evidence to prove he was there. JMO

Hi NTS,
I’m thinking Casey just cashed a check from People magazine. It was probably enough to pay off OC, that’s if her lawyers think that’s a good idea. They may want her to go on a payment plan, like $200 a month. lol…just guessing.
As for Casey’s future…something the Haters may have forgotten about..there’s still a chance she’ll marry rich and not have to work at all. hehe.. Or she’ll own her own business?
She’s young, she’s smart. I’m sure she’ll do fine as long as she stays out of Florida. lol Is she really living in Florida now? Whatever..time flies, probation will be over soon. I wish her the best and I hope she gets the counseling she needs. Obviously she needs to work on Life skills.
Being raised in a family where she had no boundaries or structure makes living Life very difficult.
She’s got so much learn…

IMO, and ONLY MY OPINION, but other than on the internet, YOU dont hear ANYONE talking about this case. I would think the folks in FL are really tired of it, I would be, EITHER WAY lol. SO having said that, if it werent for the web, I wouldnt feel too much off saying that it wouldnt be much of a story elsewhere. BUT thats not the case. I mean even tho the cable channel kept it going, they too are gonna have to move on to new stories case in hand, the Conrad Murry trial starts Tuesday and is expected to go thru Oct 28 and will be on HLN. But I am gonna watch on web, I learned lesson from KC trial, they went to commercial almost everytime Jose cross… lol AND I remb that that trial was sch to go on somewhere around the time of KC but was changed to Sept, (I personally wonder if HLN/Insession had any pull in that, just something I wondered, since they had both trials to show live CHA CHING AGAIN)

What about you folks in other states not Florida, Do you hear much? again Just wondering.

NTS, I will have to disagree, THEY THINK THEY ARE IMMUNE. Being vengeful is all this is about, IMO. Personally in any of our lives it doesnt make our lives better or worse what happens to KC. BUT in the big picture it COULD if we ever found ourselves in a position to need a defense attny. HA then what? You want someone to do whatever the heck they can to defend you. Again be careful what you wish for. YOU never know what can happen in your life.

I respectfully repost this from my 2nd cousins fb page:

Intentionally causing hurt is not being “mean”. It is evil and comes about by a person allowing themself to be used by Satan in his “Master of Confusion” game. We must each choose daily “…whom you will serve

This is the video where Cindy’s supervisor was talking about her time sheets. Watch her face when Jose asks about July 15th, and Mr. George objects, she was caught off guard, see, Cindy left and then came back and then Supervisor sent her home yet Cindys work records reflect she worked whole day.http://www.wftv.com/video/28423074/index.html

This happens all the time in the real world, even if not suppose to. Seen it been there done that.

Yep Mimi,
It does. Anyone who is a salaried employee would know this. Thanks for the video. It’s a good reminder just how thos SA’s fought against hearing the truth. it’s a good thing Kc was acquitted. If not, we have to hear about Kc for another 5 years or more.

Yes Jb and the point of Jose pointing this out is, ok IF IT HAPPENED ON JULY 15, how are we to know for sure it didnt happen on the days in March also. WHICH IS TRUE!! and the PT didnt see it coming…IMO this could be why the State decided against filing perjury charges against Cindy, this testimony alone cast reasonable doubt on if they could prove perjury. JMOO

Mimi, maybe it’s because the media has slowed down on it, but we don’t hear anything here. BUT, when that crap of her depo and the jurors names come out the hornets will all be stirred again.
I wish HLN had to pay for the suffering of Casey. They made enough off of her.
Maybe the Murry trial will go on past her probation. : )
JB, is there really a chance for another trial? I don’t care how much the loser cry and ssend petitions, it’s wrong.
Well, I just thought I was sick. IGH!

I have a question for you super duper smart folks. I see people posting about Casey’s debt to the IRS how they hope the IRS will get her blah blah blah. Would that be public knowledge if she had contacted them and made arrangements? I was reading one site on about tax levy and liens. It was saying ex if you owed $100,000 and paid it down to $1,000 it wouldnt reflect on your credit reports and so forth til you paid the last penny. Do any of yall understand the tax stuff?

So, IMO again these haters are just grasping for straws to get any kind of revenge on KC they can. And correct me please, how the hell is this any kind of so called justice for Caylee??? ALSO, I feel in my heart that her attnys know exactly what they are doing on that front too. Whats funny to me on the hater thing is… the not knowing is driving them crazy lol. They are pizzed off because they too can only speculate. I feel positive they have an attny who is very schooled on tax and $ stuff. ALSO the haters are pizzed IMO, because KC’s team, the only ones who have had her back from get go, have stuck by her. THEY cant stand that the attnys didnt just leave her to the wolves after she was released. So they make up all kind of childish bully rumors.

also on the tax thing, since Casey was incarcerated the attnys prob contacted as required. I just cant see them just putting a letter in a drawer lol. I read a couple diff sites on tax stuff, which is some over my head lol. I read that when a tax lien or levy is filed it is recorded in the state and/or ran in the newspaper. Is that how it became public knowledge here?

Mimi,
I think they’re trying anything to see if it will stick and NO, this has nothing to do with them being concerned about Caylee. If they were so concerned they would have given it a rest on the day she was aquitted. In my eyes, Caylee was there with her Mama. : )
Now, I’ll go to sleep and dream about angels. : ) Tell Addie hello and I miss her and I will say a prayer for her. I usually don’t make those promises because I forget, but I’m going to bed right now and I will remember to keep my promise. I hope she’s well soon.

Hi all. Thanks for the new and informative article, JB. I was glad to see that someone did something about the treatment of that little boy, shared by HollyGmom in the last thread. Addie, continue your recovery. If what they give you doesn’t take care of it completely, consider taking acidopholis to restore your intestinal flora after the antibiotic and look for a good Pleurisy Root blend at your local herb store. It is wonderful for anything lung related.

(2)(a) The court shall impose the costs of prosecution and investigation notwithstanding the defendant’s present ability to pay. The court shall require the defendant to pay the costs within a specified period or in specified installments.
(b) The end of such period or the last such installment shall not be later than:
1. The end of the period of probation or community control, if probation or community control is ordered;
2. Five years after the end of the term of imprisonment imposed, if the court does not order probation or community control; or
3. Five years after the date of sentencing in any other case.
However, in no event shall the obligation to pay any unpaid amounts expire if not paid in full within the period specified in this paragraph.
(c) If not otherwise provided by the court under this section, costs shall be paid immediately.
(3) If a defendant is placed on probation or community control, payment of any costs under this section shall be a condition of such probation or community control. The court may revoke probation or community control if the defendant fails to pay these costs.

Perry didn’t specify the time period or installments so it is ordered to be paid immediately, even though he knows the IRS has a lean and she has no income. I believe the IRS has first dibs, right? Now, the way I read this, her probation shouldn’t have anything to do with this because she wasn’t placed on probation for these charges but, I doubt it will stop him from expecting her PO to find her in violation and not to let her off probation when the time comes. They didn’t allow the department of probation to exercise their own judgement on the probation being served so I doubt he will let them discharge her probation if she doesn’t pay these costs first. Is there any sign they will appeal? Or maybe it will be addressed in the appeal on the conviction? I don’t know how these things work.

On a more fun note, a little Hollywood trivia, my man is in a movie just released this week on DVD. He’s in the background, behind a car and the van driven by 50 Cent. It’s called Set Up and also stars Bruce Willis. Extras don’t even get an honorable mention so I thought I’d mention it instead. 🙂

Thanks, Mimi. I was surprised it wasn’t released in theaters with Bruce Willis in it. I guess it cost 2M. Is that low budget? Anyway, it has a lot of language and violence, as usual these days, but the story is good. 50 Cent plays a bigger part than Willis. You would laugh if you saw the contrast between my hubby’s public exposure and mine. My claim to fame in the spotlight was due to being a mother, homeschooling and running a family business, oh and they wanted our land for a landfill for a while. (Local tv news, newspaper and local magazine) Mother Earth vs Gangster movie LOL.

I am certain that Jeff Ashton will not address this in his upcoming book, but it would be interesting to know if he feels that perhaps the SAO should have charged Casey like they did Bob Ward, the millionaire just found guilty of killing his wife. I do not know that much about Ward’s case, but do know that the jury only consisted of 6 people instead of 12 since it was not a death penalty case.

Maybe the Anthony case would not have generated so much media attention if it was not a DP case? Maybe they could have found 6 jurors in the Orange County area instead of having to go to Pinellas County? Maybe the “type” of jurors would have been different because it was not DP? Are the dynamics of a 6 member jury different than a 12 member jury as far as reaching an agreement on a verdict? I’d be interested to know if the prosecution had any second thoughts on the way they approached the case. MOO

The Supreme Court has held under the Sixth Amendment that juries in criminal cases are not required to be the traditional size of twelve persons (although they cannot consist of less than six persons). Nonetheless, all federal criminal cases use a twelve-person jury, and only a handful of states allow juries of less than twelve for felony trials, although as to misdemeanor cases states are about evenly split between those that require twelve-person juries and those that provide for smaller juries (typically six persons).

The Supreme Court has also held that a guilty verdict from a twelve-person jury need not be unanimous (nine votes is constitutionally permissible), although if the jury consists of only six persons, unanimity is required. Nonetheless, federal statutes require a unanimous verdict in both felony and misdemeanor federal cases. All states except Louisiana and Oregon require unanimous verdicts in felony cases, while only Oregon permits a non-unanimous verdict in misdemeanor cases.

Civil cases in federal court

The Seventh Amendment right to a jury trial does not require either a twelve-person jury or a unanimous verdict. Federal statutes provide for a six-person unanimous verdict in most civil cases.

“Among other findings, it appears that larger juries are more likely then smaller juries to contain members of minority groups, deliberate longer, hang more often, and possibly recall trial testimony more acurately.”

Peer representation considerations? Smaller juries have less mix of gender, religion, race etc. hence we have a number of cases considering size and constitutional isues. Most hold that in criminal cases less then 12 person juries are “inferior” as not representative of the community. Juries are supposed to be a cross section of the community and 6th

Amendment rights require a fair jury. There are constitutional implications in the use of preemptive strikes in jury selection in both civil and criminal cases.

It also depends upon the type of case:

Criminal- If you are the defendant you want more jurors for better chance of controversy, hung jury etc. The ABA position is that a jury of less then twelve is not representative of the community. The U.S. Supreme court has considered constitutional issues in that regard.

Civil cases: if you are a defendant you want more jurors for same reason as the defendant in a criminal case, but If you are the plaintiff you want a jury that is less likely to argue among themselves, less likely to compromise in order to reach a verdict and more likely to render a unanimous verdict without a lot of controversy. Since our problem is the conservative on the jury, small group dynamics dictate it is better for the plaintiff to have less chance of controversy. Obviously, that also means if you have a lousy case you are more likely to get a quicker defense verdict with a smaller group, but even if you have twelve jurors with a lousy case your outcome is probably the same. It will just take longer.

HGM,
I’m really curious as to why, Michael Jackson’s doctor is an involentary manslaughter case, has 12 on the jury and the most he can get is 4 years in prison and can lose his license. Didn’t someone say this shouldn’t have have even been a trial. I guess any kind of manslaughter case calls for a trial though. In this case I hope this trial last through next year so that SOME will forget the Casey case. : )

Aww LolyPop, Prayer is such a powerful thing. Doesnt it make you feel better better? I know she appreciates it, I do. Hugs my sweet dear.

Well I gonna try to watch this new “high profile case” Oh, I do feel for the Mr. Conrad and Casey, neither case is alike only that there is a deceased person in it. Mr. Conrad’s is considered high profile due to the deceased person is Michael Jackson King of Pop. Casey Anthony because of media. Yet they continue to be compared.

Back later. Praying EVERYONE IN THE Universe has a Great DAY! Whatever day it is where you are lol!

If you were blessed to awaken this morning, then God had a purpose for you to accomplish today. Will you watch and work to accomplish it? Or… When daylight fades this evening, will you have a disappointed Heavenly Father that loves you anyway. We are not here to just “enjoy life” for ourselves….we are here to be the Master’s hands and feet…….”enjoying life” is just a benefit and blessing for having done so.

Conrad Murry Trial
The trial, which takes place in Los Angeles, will last until October 28, the judge said. Opening arguments in the trial are set to begin on September 27 at 11:45 ET / 8:45 PT (local time).

LOL so while I am waiting for the CMurray trial to resume from lunch, I decide to lurk around! TOO funny, over at the water cooler hate talk blog (what reminds me of lol) this is what I notice…

As of 1:23pm (time posted on blog) there are currently 13 pre articles articles, with a combined total of 59 comments. Article 14 is the one about Bob Ward Conviction posted Sept 24, with 468 comment. Full disclosure, I did NOT go in and count how many were on topic. Although the overwhelming majority were in ref to none other than Casey Anthony, peppered with many comments of The JB Mission and regular posters to her blog. Article 15, was posted the prev day, Sept 23rd and was topic Casey Anthony and of Judge Perry’s ruling on the investigative costs jumping. It has 207 comments.

That just shows that Casey is their cash cow lol. Again, Full Disclosure on my part again, I NEVER read there until a month or 2 ago and the first time was when names were put out there from twitter accounts. SO I dont know what their volumes were prev. But from conversations read there and it being local media, I am sure it has paid its way for the past 3 yrs.

So, looks like they have to keep that thread up til something new to jump on lol. I feel sure that they will have an article today about the beginning of the C Murray trial and somehow, as else where on the web, have some comparison to Casey trial. Then they will get their comment and hit numbers back up lol. Tis Tis. Somethings gotta happen so there bills will get paid! They holding out til ZG depo of Casey, but lol it will be sealed babhabhahhh

I was away for a few days and then catching back up..I see I get blogged about behind my back…Guess if someones talking about me they leaving someone else alone…or should be…lol…pfffft..what a life..wake every day vile hatred and anger filled…not me 🙂 Hope every one is doing wonderfully!!

OMG, what is it about losing Ashton doesn’t get? Or is it that loosing has gone to his head? He is finishing his book this weak (deliberate spelling variation) and then will likely officially announce he is running against his former boss for the position of state attorney. http://www.wesh.com/video/29319311/detail.html

Zuben – Actually, I think Ashton has an ace up his sleeve. While it is true that he lost the case, or at least helped lose it, he will be running against his former boss. What if it was Lawson Lamar’s decision to seek the death penalty in the case? Remember, it was right around election time in 2008.

Ashton could come out and say Lamar forced the death penalty issue against his (Ashton’s) advise and that ultimately resulted in the not guilty verdict. Ashton could blame his boss for Casey being free and, I think, that would seal a victory for him.

Now, with that being said, Lamar has been in office for quite a while. Maybe 20 years? He might just decide to retire and let Ashton fight it out with whoever the opponent ends up being.

On the other hand, who would know dirty little secrets about Ashton better than his boss? Politics is a nasty game and can make some strange bedfellows. It would be very interesting. All MOO.

YD, on that issue (Ashton/Lamar) I think JA had been there like 30 yrs, think of all the dirt they both could sling lol. Wonder if that lady who ran againt him last time. I read that that was about the time that the DP issue came about. I dont know this for sure tho.

WOOO HOOOO I was sooo right!!!! In my 3:50 post here today, I said that Casey was the cash cow for OS!!! LOL at 6:03 pm tonite I see they PUT UP A NEW ARTICLE, GUESS WHAT ABOUT LOLOL cha ching: Casey Anthony: Did her case affect the Bob Ward verdict? What next for Jeff Ashton? BABBHAHHHAHAHAHAHA TOO flipping funny!!!!! See, the last one was article 15 lol EVEN USED THE SAME PICTURE OF B WARD LOL. Sorry this really makes me giggle

The whole state of Florida can second guess the DP or not. It woud or could have been life in prison. The jury listend to all of it, saw it all and found her Not guilty. I don’t see how anything could change that or should without total outrage in the whole country. We would just all be in deep shit if that does happen. So many things have changed already like JusticeForCasey explained the other day.

I was a wreck during the trial, thought for one hour I would watch my favorite show, THe Talk! I started watching it and all 5 off them were so alrready to convict Casey. I said to my husband, this is crap and stopped taping it. I wouldn’t watch anything negative about the trial at all until it was over. Of course that left out HLN too. Everyone has turned into NG.
Well, The Talk broke up and I was trying to see what happened. Leah and Holly were my favorites. Come to find out they had a show without JUlie Chen and discussed the Casey Anthony trial without her being there. I just saw on You Tube the day that they announced the verdict on there. Did any of you see it. Perez was right when he said that everyone was treating this like an Entertainment. As much as it was my favorite show and I love Leah, Holly and Sharon. They made it. But Sara and JUlie, the 5 I thought complimented it together. I just hope they stop all of the shows because of their ratings. Starting with Nancy Grace on and the rest.

Thank ya Lisa! How’s everybody tonight? I watched the MJ trial today. Wow, the Pros opening statement was powerful but the defense had some good points too.
The only two things that jumped out at me were, CM didn’t tell the ER nurses about Propofol and the Def’s explanation that CM was trying to wean MJ off of Propofol made me question why did CM buy so much of if he wasn’t planning on administering it?
It was really sad to hear MJ while heavily under the influence. He’s was a genius and I truly believe “This is it” would have been spectacular. How sad to hear he planned on opening a children’s hospital with the money.
As for CM? I can honestly say that he was negligent when it came to monitoring MJ. Not to have have a proper pulseoximeter to begin with was flirting with disaster. MJ was bound to crash, it was just a matter of time and he should have known.
But that’s just my opinion so far..it might change. MJ should have some accountability too. It was his choice to use this deadly anesthesia..so we’ll see..

Arkansas, I’d love to join you guys in discussion on FB but I don’t have a FB acct. I’ll have to sign up tomorrow so you may see me there. Sounds like fun.

Zub,
OMG is right! lol..ah but did we see this coming?? JA is a card! First attorney to write a book and first one to run for office. That’s speaks volumes to me..He’s one self serving pig IMO.
And I don’t think he has a chance on winning! After all he did LOSE the case..the case EVERYBODY thought was signed, sealed and delivered…NOT
I wish him BAD LUCK in his political agenda.. 😀

JB, I dont know where to talk on fb lol, we can talk here on discuss anything if you dont care. I got to watch the opening stmnt then had to play outside with Tj lol. I agree both sides made points. I was suprised that CM didnt have records… I worked in a nursing home as bookkeeper, but also had to do medical records and yes there are sooo much documentation that has to be done. I wonder if he did it but cya distroyed it? I also agree on the pulse ox! wow. LOL I would think that MJ would more or less have a little medical suite! I think MJ, as Elvis and many before and after are pulled so many ways that the spiral out of control or whatever. Pills to keep up pills to go to sleep, terrible cycle.

Us normal folks would have called 911, BUT, think about how much security was ALWAYS around MJ and every thing monitored. I cant even imagine. Never knowing who to trust. Everyone wanting something. I feel sure that CM was told exactly what to do. I know when my husband had his emer quad heart bypass, then he had lung prob and had to go back on the vent because very hard to breath, they said ok we are gonna give you some “milk of amnesia” I said what? and they said it was that proprothal (sp) it looks like milk of magnesia and you dont remember anything. And it did just that and looked just like it lol. I heard for yrs that MJ had sleep prob, from news or entertainment stuff. Remb when he married Lisa Marie, there were so many comparisons
of the two. I feel he prob been taking those meds for yrs, and like most meds, after you take so long your body builds up a resistance and it takes more… ADDICTED. Have to wait and see what evidence says. that part will be interesting. I feel for the children. I read an article that said it was back and forth on whether the 2 oldest would testify since they came in and saw their father. I really hope for them that they dont have to. Sadly like Elvis, there will be things come out in this trial that will us remember MJ differently than for his music.

JB~Zuben oh get it, JA writes the book, knowing Everyone gonna read it and it will reinforce the haters in his area and ride it into the Election while he is still being held on a pedestal for nothing other than the hate for Casey. IMO of course. Just glad I dont live there lol. And prob most of the hate bloggers dont either lol

I got the impression from the opening statements of the Dr. Murray trial that MJ was very highly neglected all around.

Hard to lay judgement on Dr. Murray alone, I guess is what I feel. I know some highly traumatized people who are terrified to fall asleep. It seems that the source of his inability to sleep should have been addressed. But how?

That tape of michael’s voice is really scary, some of these celebrities must live in an extremely dangerous world. Is it possible it is a tape that has been slowed for effect?’ Just wondering because it is clear indication he is under someone else’s control at this time.

There is no evidence against Josh Powell either – and if no body of Susan Powell is found it probably never will be. But Josh Powell killed Susan and everyone knows it. I wonder if you will take up his cause if he is ever indicted for her murder. In the Anthony case there was a great deal more evidence than many cases I have followed and even now most juors feel she should have been convicted at least of manslaughter. I do not see the feds bring charges against Casey though I would like to see her pay for her murder of Caylee. Howvever as you have stated her life on the outside is as much of a prison as the four walls of her jail cell were and I can be content with that. As time goes by you will see or hear more of Casey Anthony and not in a good way – there is no way that she can change what she is -just as OJ couldnt change and is finally where he was meant to be so you will see Casey one day back where she is supposed to be. I can wait.

I know…. It didn’t even sound like MJ. The talking heads were speculating the reason why CM would record him under the influence such as he was. Me, being the person I am..lol
I wonder if CM had planned to extort money from MJ somewhere down the road.
Remember the Pros claimed CM had first asked for 5 million to be his personal doctor.
We’ve all heard the rumors that MJ was strung out on opiates since the Pepsi accident but the rumor was never proven to be true..with that tape, it could have hurt MJ especially if he wanted to open a children’s hospital attached to his name. If so, MJ certainly wouldn’t be a good role model for kids. JMO

Hi Elaine,
I had to recheck to be sure.. Now I remember. Susan Powell is the missing woman who’s husband Josh Powell decided to go camping in the middle of the night and the middle of Winter to take his sons camping the night she supposedly disappeared. Recently, Susan’s father in law, Steven Powell faces trial on charges of voyeurism and possession of child pornography. With this in mind… Hmm… no, I don’t support Josh Powell.
You said that most of the jurors feel she should have been convicted of at least manslaughter. Hmm..that’s odd since they obviously voted not guilty to that charge too. As my Mom always said, “there’s no time like the present” so that opportunity is lost.
Elaine, I don’t believe Casey is evil so only time will tell. It’s never been proven to me that she deliberately killed Caylee. It may have been an accident and IF what we know now about her parents, we know they would do anything in their power to cover for Casey. It looks to me that in the process of the “cover-up”, Casey’s actions made her appear she is this diabolical murderess. That’s just my opinion.
Sooo..If she doesn’t change as you say then she’ll just continue to be the nice person she is then Casey will have many opportunities to have a decent life. For one, she’s young, two, she’s smart, three, she’s attractive. With that going for her, I see her married one day to a nice man and having a couple of kids, much like Patty Hearst.

Same to you TheSpiderGirl 😀 I’m looking forward to watching the X Factor tonight. Is anyone else watching this new show? I think it’s awesome! Simon Cowell and Paula are adorable. I think they might be an item?? hmmm..

JB,
Michael using the money for children would have been MIchael. It doesn’t surprise me at all.And it fits. So many have thanked him for what he did for their kids. Talk about a childrens advocate? I don’t care what they said about him and his “weirdness”, I don’t believe that he was anything but good to children. I remermber the kid that got burned over 90% of his body. He was on TV talking about Michael and what he meant to him. He was like a father fgigure to him. His own dad set the bed that he and he son were sleeping on on fire, the dad got chicken, jumped out and the son was burned. I believe he’s still having surgery.His Mom said that he wanted to meet Michael Jackson and they did, the first thing MIchael did was hug him. I’m sure the little boy didn’t get much of that. It would be like Michael to have named it after that little boy. I think Michael would probably have named it just Childrens Hospital, we won’t know, I guess.Of course this is always just my opinion.

Elaine,
Get over it. It is what it is, the “jury” aquitted Casey of ist degre, 2nd and manslaughter. No abuse to Caylee what so ever. AS far as any CASE goes, they are all different. OJ’s, is not Casey’s. Casey’s is not POwell’s. THey haven’t even started a trial on the Powell case. They may have opinions, BUT opinions change after a trial. How can you ask what it’s going to be? I KNOW one thing IF he stands trial and is aquitted, I WILL respect the jurors decision. Not like the Anthony’s case. You have all acted like children. You thought you knew everything about it before the trial, and a lot of people that thought she was guilty changed their minds, BUT the people that just want revenge for Caylee(AND that’s exactly what it is) will never want to find the truth.I hear over and over again a little girl died and we want someone to pay. Unfortunatly the case was tried YES in the media. All of the evidence you say they had on Casey, NAME THEM. START!@!

Hello all, had a busy day today so I missed the trial, not good this early on lol. So gonna try and see if I can find video, like they had on Casey’s trial. Will let ya know if I do.

Elaine, I respect you having your opinion. Also there is lots of discovery docs released, but as you saw, not all that info was entered as evidence in the trial. Folks with various opinions have wondered why this or that wasnt brought into trial. That is the PT decision as they prepare their argument for charges. So IMO, as far as when your talking about what happened in the trial only the evidence presented in trial is again IMO what should be debated. I say this because, thats all the jury had to go on also. And if a juror were to say, if I had known this or that (i mean from reading discovery stuff) I would have had a different vote. Thats not how it works either, ITS what is happens in trial. Sure, knowing this or that changes things that happened in trial, but for it to have an difference in the out come, well hindsight is 20/20. So if you do have an opinion on evidence that they had that should have her convicted of anything but the lying charges, I am open for a grown up debate.

Actually Im over it – Im not the one still writing about it on wordpress! Most people saw the truth
of the case as it really was. There are a few like the people here who believed differently,
and I find that fascinating in itself. I applaud you for your convictions however misguided they might be, at least to those of us who felt differently and there were many of us. I dont hate Casey Anthony but I believed her guilty of the murder of her daughter. There have been many cases where justice wasnt served immediately. I believe one day in Caseys case it will be. As I stated before I can wait. And as you say, Casey might marry again and she probably will have children.
Knowing the Anthony family as we do, I shudder to think how they will turn out,.

Elaine,
When you say as time goes by we will see or hear more of Casey, and it will not be good. Unless you know something about how to predict what will happen in the future, IMOO you know something no one this side of Heaven knows. For as I understand, Only GOD knows OUR Future… I know we all have made statements like this, but in all honesty, no one knows what will happen to anyone or how they will be in the future.. think of all the people who marry deep in love and within short time divorced… How many are stunned? I have heard this so many time… I would never have thought they would divorce WHAT HAPPENED? I guess ya can only say Life Happens, and sometimes is is sad, BUT thankfully, there are an over abundance of GOOD things that happen. I consider myself a Christian, and for all those who spew hate an say GOD knows and she will answer for what she did… Well, that is correct as I understand my Bible. And I will say I did not go to Theology school, but I do spend time reading and learning.. We ALL shall answer to God on our day of Judgement. Thats an appointment we all will have to keep. My God is a forgiving God. I am thankful of that too. For whatever Casey or you or I have or will do, If you ask God for forgiveness and invite Jesus to live in your heart and live, you shall have everlasting life. This is my belief and I respect your choice to have different belief.. Sorry for that so ap box but God is the ONLY ONE who know, and unless you were present when whatever happened, just like the rest of us your just speculating.

What really is so unbelievable is how so many people claim to know what Casey is like and so forth. Do any of you know her personally? If not, how did you form your knowledge of what kind of person she is? I mean this as an honest question. What is my opinion of her? Does it really matter? What I THINK about her would not be a true picture of the young lady any more that what my opinion of you. In instances such as these, we hear/read opinions that other people are expressing. What I see when I look at police interviews and depositions of what kind of Mother Casey was to Caylee, I have not read 1 report of ANYONE saying she didnt love Caylee or that she was not a good mother. SO what I take from that is, as far as I can tell she was a good Mother. Now, I can see you fixing to say what about the 31 days, that part, all I can say is I dont know. There could be MANY reasons. Thats a mystery to me. There are too many strange characters in this story, just as strange as Casey IMOO

Actually Im over it – Im not the one still writing about it on wordpress!
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LOL I guess someone hijacked your name because what I see is someone named Elaine commenting on JB Mission’s WordPress site….

Elaine,
AND EVEN now you say most jurors think she should have been charged with manslaughter? What jurors?THe ones that aquitted her did so because there was NO evidence, just like no evidence for 1st or second degree murder. If you’re hearing BS like that, it’s just to appease the haters.I say give you all a pacifier. You really need to get a life. THink of something you can do. WAiting for revenge is wasting your time.

Do you ever think about Zahra Baker? The little precious 10 year old girl from Audtrailia? Remember she survived cancer but suffered the loss of her leg. Her body was scattered in different areas, even a landfield??Her stepmom plead guilty for murdering her. BUT you will be happy to hear that she received roughly 15 to 18 years in prison. OUTRAGED about her yet? I know, you’vee probably fogotten the name Zahra Baker and don’t even remember who Elisa Baker is. SAD! There are many, many more.But, don’t let your mind wander, keep it focused on Casey, makes you feel better or what exactly?

I find that tape of MJ very iffy indeed, like it was deliberately manipulated for a reason, I wonder where the motivation is./was. I also wonder how MJ was introduced to this CM since he’s a vegas Dr. I smell conspiracy 101….Just my usual opinion.

Also, MJ msut be stirring in his grave knowing his children might be testify;ing??? WTF, this is exactly what MJ was against IMO, a circus like atmosphere, I think it’s unneccessary

and oh lordie lordie lordie… i think i am gonna take up just random cases now just because folks think because we cared about one case so much that we will think all people are innocent and go on mad crusades for them…

okay round em up, why don’t you just save time and list the cases that you think we are going to go against the grain on and then we will know what you are telling us about what we think and feel about things… sound good?

this will save lots and lots of unnecessary words and delay, thanks in advance 😉

GCG, In the opening stmnts by the def I think it was lol slept since then, was said that GM was a Dr in Vegas and I THINK he had treated either a close friends child or one of his brothers children anyway, one of Michaels children became ill while they were in Vegas. Mr Murray was a physician that where ever he was used as an on call Dr. After Mr. Murry treated MJ child, they became friends and from there is how he became acquainted with him. This is how I understood.

I also agree on this wasnt what Michael would have wanted, but as I said the other day, I think to LolyPop, if a crime was committed, it doesnt matter what his wishes were. (I know what you ment tho) Lol I read on a ABC Blog that people think that Dr M, might have did the recording for future black mail. I dunno lol. Sadly some of these rich people gonna get what they want, People with stars in their eyes wanting to please.. it really is sad. Look at Anna Nicole… so many. Some are saying that Dr M is a fall guy. Bottom line is he is the one in the current situation so I am gonna keep trying to be open minded lol LOVE to read others views!!!

I wonder about that too.. David Badali was mentioned in one of the letters between Robyn Adams and Casey. He supposedly is the person who blew the whistle on Robyn Adams & her husband. They were friends so I’m thinking he might want to lay low and avoid the spotlight if YKWIM..lol

Thanks for the MJ info!! Guess perhaps I should set my DVR and watch it. LOL
Well, before I start commenting but generally I go by intuition which can be good or bad…hehe…..anyho, I suppose i’ll tape it starting tomorrow… I guess I dont get why they need the children’s testimony howevr if they were there then I guess they may need it however I hope it doesnt open up a new can of worms or places them in danger if my intuition is right about a conspiracy etc…

Look what happened to Anna Nicole’s son. He was the heir to her fortune,ended up dead. Drugs were to blame which nowadays is an easy out if one wants to commit murder . With Anna, there were mysterious Dr’s as well. A woman Dr, never heard of. I quesiton a lot about the underground world in Holly wood and RX drugs etc….Look how many ppl have died within the last few yrs alone due to onverdose or by other means….I think whatever is going on is huge, real huge

that is about all i can find atm mimi except for media stories and such will keep digging… but maybe they haven’t released most yet due to it being ongoing, also, nothing in the orlando clerk of court as per documents related to the case

Elaine,
You’re NOT over it. Why else would you be here? And certainly this question, IF you’re so over it, WHY are you waiting for revenge. IF you’re OVER IT? Actually it isn’t over because you have the mob like yourself not wanting to believe in the jury system. THe jury saw way more than you or I did so MOST don’t count.
How can anyone be over something that isn’t over?
You’ve got the whiners and mob out there even trying for a new trial, because you were upset.
I WISH you were over it, then Casey could have walked out of jail like anyone else has without the people like you wanting her dead. AND even the jury. Damn, GRow up!

GascanGeorge, remember when Britney Spears was being drugged by her new manager? I think you are on to something. An easy way to keep someone under your control would be to put yourself in the position of giving them something they think they need. Although in Britney’s case, he was drugging her without her knowledge.

I watched some of the trial yesterday. Still on the fence with it. Was the Dr. really trying to wean Michael off the ‘milk’? Why did he try so hard to get back into the room afterwards? It will be interesting to hear the defense.

I hope the children find it therapeutic to testify. Sometimes that is the case when injustice has occurred.

It seems likely that these leaches around MJ were becoming frantic at the thought that MJ may be ending his career and they may have come to think he may tell the world about his private life and the part these Dr’s and attendants played in his ongoing personal slow deterioration. His talent never suffered but his strength apparently had become dependent on their pumping him up on drugs instead of leading him to take time off to recoup and rehabilitate his health. I know we can say he was boss, but that tape tells me he was submissive to their preying on him. I am wondering if after this latest proposed event, they knew that he was going to let it all hang out and possibly they would end up with nothing they had hoped for financially when they latched on to him. I can not clear MJ from some of the unusual things he did to himself, he was so darn cute
and maybe after the first reconstruction no harm was done to his features, but later, it looked like someone had used him for practicing their surgeries. Could it be these people who surrounded him became scared that if he put all his funds to building a children’s hospital, they would be cut out of any monies they expected. I just feel there might have been reason that more than one Dr.
has come to be known to be involved in what led to his demise. Perhaps I need to go back to bed and get up again today without these thoughts, but even his family seem to be reaching for every dollar they can get on the sympathy path of losing Michael. For what is left, I pray his children will rise above all of it and move away from those who will be sucking the life out of them as they did MJ.

Comment,
I agree and his family acting like they care so damn much really pisses me off. THat’s why they care, Michael was the only one making money in the family besides Janet.. I think especialy Joe and some of the siblings thought to them he was worth something to them anyway and I believe that they weren’t happy aout him buildiing a childrens hospital. What would that do for them. Jermaine really galled me wanting to keep the house that MIchael didn’t even care about anymore, BUT said that’s what Michael would have wanted? Sure for that to be a museum? Do you know if they sold the house?

Happy New Year to all…………… and by mistake….the tv was on and NG is on right now…and wow she is getting nastier and nastier …why oh why — and who would want to be on her show for such disgusting humiliation? Amazing…

Who’s she on to now? I have never understood WHY anyone would go on her show. I was hoping her ratings would drop OR she would get a dancing career. lol, but guess not, huh?
Why they are keeping her, I will never understand.
What IF no one came on the show. THey were all just a no show. That would be GREAT!

She is vicious …. I can’ imagine how she is with her husband and “the twins” …… she onto Conrad Murray ,.,..wants him charged with first degree murder ….. the fact that she nows nothing about what happened in that room means nothing!

Hazaka,
You are so right. She’s the most or almost the hatefullest woman (in my opinion) in the world. How does she sleep at night?
I hope her twins don’t take after her because she is a terrible role model for them. She acts like a spoliled brat. Throws temper tantrums and is just downright evil.
AND OH, the hypocricacy. She was worse on MIcheael Jackson, I couldn’t stand to watch her.
AND I hope she isn’t faking it at all about his kids, like she even cares because I know better. I’ve heard her before. He was a far better father, than she could ever be as a mother.
She has 2 jobs, now 3 , dancing with the stars. MORE HYPOCRICY. She Casey Casey hell for wearing a push up bra? IS she kiddding, she is a joke. I knew she was just jealous of CVasey. At LEAST Casey could dance and if she couldn’t I don’t think she would even enter anything WHERE it’s a joke REALLY! It would be different IF ng could dance. Like now, she thinks she’s still a prosecuter. If she thinks so much of it, why don’t she quit her 3 jobs and take up her profession andwe wouldn’t have to worry whether or not she and HLN would love to cause riots just so they could get the ratings. They don’t care!df

I think NG has a lot of built up anger, seems as tho she has a personal vendetta/ like shes never found peace after the death of her fiance. Maybe her husband should take care of her more often, perhaps she’ll finally finds some peace? : }

GCG…maybe the wardrobe malfunction was a sweet way for the universe to get back at her for her unkind actions and behavior… lord knows no one was hoping it would happen, but it did 😉 it must be awful being in her head, all that chaotic noise and hate, wow, i would not want that to be lingering inside of me… thanks goodness it isn’t

Thanks Friend ~ you know which one you are… For the heads up on Lil ole MIMI being mentioned, rather ACCUSED of “stealing” other peoples screen names and posting stuff lol. NOW THATS IS FUNNY AS HELL!!! Seems a bunch of them who lurk here because they have nothing else to talk about, read my post where I was dead on about articles about Casey being their only cash cow. LOL and I have only posted there 1 time. LOL just reading shows that they dont do much other than put down someone. Thanks NTS, Misty and others for defending JB’s Blog. LOL but just wanted you to know, dont worry about thinking your defending me, cause it isnt me. But I do have something for you hate spewing lurkers… Dont worry about my grandsons, they are just fine. Never drank a drop of alcohol in my life, so whatever kind of hate makes you feel better about yourself, telling your fantasy lies about me, or others here for that matter. I pray for you to have a blessed life as I have someday, and that you get out of that sad place you seem stuck in…. PSSST I will pray for you Denny, Lisa2 … you seem to really need it!

Hi Hazaka! How are ya!
I hate DWTS for adding NG to the show. I watched it religiously for last few years and now I avoid it like the plague. I heard NG had a wardrobe malfunction…something about a slip nip.. OMG!
Perfect! So from now on…. every time a man looks at NG, she’ll think they’re thinking about her breast. 😀 I love Karma. Anything that makes NG uncompfortable, makes my DAY!
Love it!

OH, and NTS woo hoo high 5, Our own NTS kept commenting on the last article, about the photo, Hal even wrote an article about the picture! LOL. OH and he even has peppered one article saying “news coming on Judge Perry decision on the sealed video”. Good job Hal, gotta keep those articles with comments on top!

You guys crack me up! Glad to know ya. Nip-Slip…pfft! Hilarious! Apparently “casey lovers” are considered such vile creatures that they will defend ANYONE accused, no matter the circumstances or FACTS. That’s how far from REALITY this hate filled mob is.
They tell themselves little stories about us portraying us as Satan himself or at least his hell-bent minions. They not only believe their own little lies about others, they pass them along so that others can believe and rally against us.

Hey HGM, when were you and I Baker Acted together? lol Seems someone knows more about us than we do. Dang we could have really helped each other out. Especially since we have never been in same state together lol… ahh but then again these are folks WHO ARE IN THE KNOW… THEY KNOW WHAT HAPPENS OR HAS HAPPENED. Dang to think they better have some folks close who have their back, because with THAT gift of knowledge they should be super duper rich, and look what the end result for MJ and others with lots of money…

GasCas,
Her biggest action toward that was her boob falling out OR bouncing out. She knew it was going to. She’s loving it because her Fiance and Husband could bear to look at her much less you know….. lmao!I don’t believe that, worse dancer there and doesn’t have to leave. Is it rigged or what?

Hazaka,
Thanks. : )
I haven’t watched her show for almost a half of a year and Hazaka egged me on. : )
It’s on here now and I’m watching it.
You are right, something is so wrong with her. I think it’s her ego.
SHE’s Killing me with her phony acts about Michael Jackson. She was just hateful to him and even his kids and now she’s acting all sanctimonious. She’s full of hypricrtical crapI don’t think there could be a more evil person..

JB,
Why is it that they are always comparing trials? I think trials are like earthquakes. They kep telling us they’re going to be the big one. The media loves having “trials of the century”.
Why do some REALLY bad ones come and go like nothing happened?
I guess next thing with the Michael trial NG will be saing could Conrad get the death pentalty in LA?
Usually whether she knows anything about it or not. She usually doesn’t.She’s ready for anyone and everyone to get death. When her callers call in, first question, Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaancy do they have the death pentalty in LA? Sick people even call in. That’s all they allow. : )

Missionites, Please forgive me for this one : but a blog poster asked if ” Casey can now call NG “TIT MOM ?”
Great article JB , it truly shows that the Federal Gov’t CAN take up a case that “Cries out for another prosecution” . I would expect Florida to attempt this against Casey , except that “somehow” all of the evidence (what little they had} has been compromised !!! The car has been smashed, the duct tape probably has more fingerprints now than my 1970’s Farah Fawcett poster , the “Can of smells” probably no longer smells like garbage, and Caylee has been cremated……..
I still believe that any work-product of the investigations should be the property of KCA , if she is forced to pay for investigation and prosecution , N’est-ce Pas?
In the interesting cases you cited , I was shocked to see that the state ( Florida) charged Mr. DeRosa within 24 HOURS of another murder crime from 8 years earlier…. Just imagine how many hours of investigation they could have levied against him ….. oh, wait he’s not Casey Anthony

A week after her psychological treatment began, Casey Anthony is doing “well,” according to a source close to her, who adds, “She hopes she will someday redeem herself and live a productive life.”

The public, meanwhile, may get to see another side of the infamous Florida resident. In court on Wednesday, a media organization argued for the release of a jailhouse video of Casey watching TV news reports saying police found remains, which turned out to be her missing daughter, 2-year-old Caylee.

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September 30, 2011 at 12:38 am
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Thanks for asking …… times are tough…but… hopefully — so am I …..I wish everyone a health and happy New Year….. let’s party like it’s 5772!!!! ’cause it is!

wow i just visited the OS site, and dang dang dang those folks even get mad at Hal and accuse him of having alternate screen names and posting bad stuffs about him and to him…

i don’t know hal at all, but i can tell you this, he has a right to post what ever the heck he deems as entertainment and write whatever he wants in a blog, just as everyone should be allowed too… but of course in a respectful manner, which i don’t think he is dis-respectful to anyone, or am i wrong?

so now that they can’t aim their shots at missionites or justice lovers, they are turning on him?

am i crazy or am i seeing that happen over there?

oh and LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL is it true that NG’s new tag name is TIT MOM???? buahahahahaha i bet she never thought of that when she created the tag name tot mom for KCA huh?! roflmao lolol funny how karma works – she does it in such a way that u just never know when it’s coming – try getting taken seriously now as a serious journalist and lawyer when your nip has been on national t.v. lolol poor thang that must really really suck

Global “CHRISTIAN NEWS”
Why wouldn’t a Christian paper ask for prsayers for Casey and her safety? AND why is it so important to have a video of Casey after hearing that her daughter had been found? What is wrong with this country? Everybody wants and hopes the worst for a young ladt accused, BUT was aquitted by a jury giving it a rest.

Jusdtice for Casey, TIT MOM is the funniest thing. I love it. You want to call her TitMom fgrom now on instead of NG.
I just read where NG called Casey a Snake Charmer and she call NG a Tit Slinger? LMAO

I love it when someone ask why we’re still talking about Casey. Isn’t it obevious that IF they would leave her alone, give it a rest, what would we have to talk about?
PERRY is deciding whether the video should be shown and they say it will just make the public meaner?? What is wrong with him. I wish he would lose his job. WHY, won’t they go on? Isn’t tythis costing any money at all? Is Casey going to have to pay more.
I think NG sshould quit HLN and take care of her business at home. Her husband would probably have to leave.
This is past crazy, it is a woman that should be committed herself. Leave her home with her twins for awhile AND she will.

Hi Spidergirl,
NO, you aren’t crazy. WE’ve seen a lot of crazy and you aren’t there. I don’t even know where this blog is, but it must belong to naaaaaancy. She is exactly like that. I’ve seen her disagree with people that were agreeing with her.
For her to act like she is so upset witn Conrad is so phony of her.
Tit Mom is perfect!I think that is toooooooooooooo funny!! lmao
You know all of these years I thought it was so disrespectful for Tit Mom to call Casey tot mom.
Tot was Caylee and TM, is just rude and disrespectful.
She doesn’t do anything by accidernt , she knew her boob was going to bounce out.

Hazaka!!!
You are tooooo funny. I hope Tit MOm finds it unpleasant. THat would finally be payback for her making all of her guest and crew feel the same way. In fact I wish they would call her that. LOLOL

Hi Addie,
How are you? I hope that you get to feeling much better soon. I really missed you.
So sorry to hear that.
JUdge Perry is a stink. I knew when he said that he MIGHT, that chances were he would do it.
I think Perry wants revenge too.
He’s been sitting on the bench too long. His brain must be overworked. Sorry, the devil made me do it! : )

Hazaka and Addie,
They are so hateful. I hope they’re all feeling Godd! Everyone of them on HLN are Casey haters.
I wish HLN would just cancel HLN. I can’t stand tto listen to any of them.
I guess Perry is happy.
Why doesn’t he get a show like Judge Judy and just go away?
He’s a judge, supposed to be fair and justice. He isn’t!

when your daughter is missing and your in jail accused of killing your child, and they find a body of a child approx her daughters age near her parents home… yes, most people would have a reaction and not a good one

this does not prove any guilt, this shows her deep love for her daughter and an overwhelming sense of grief… but i think lots of folks are too damn cold in their heart to even understand that concept at all…

according to some folks, this is karma in action, i say, karma my ass, but no worries, karma won’t forget all the folks whom have accused a mother who was living for her child and loved her child dearly and set her up as a murdering baby killer

karma won’t forget you, no worries about that, karma ensured that KCA went free, too bad you witch hunters won’t be free when karma gets a hold of you…

Oh for gods sake, I just watched that pathetic video. Doesnt mean jackchit, who wouldnt react in distress either way??….Once again, INVASION, doesnt prove anything other than they were grasping at straws and desperate. This is no way proves anything other than that the police department etc handling this case are a pathetic bunch of desperate morons…….No way would the jury change their verdict, no way in hell…….

If anything it shows that someone other than KC placed Caylee there to send a message plain and simple..period, end of story. That is why the verdict turned out the way that it did.

Sorry lolly I didn’t refresh before posting so I didn’t see your comment but I’m doing okay& unfortunately because of the OC posters that creep here & go back and report I wont talk about my health anymore cuz they flip it around. To them triple bypass surgery,seizures, and pneumonia is funny & is a mental condition…i have struggled with my physical health the last few months & I don’t see anything funny about it

GasCan – As far as the tape, look at it this way. If you were a disgruntled Casey-hater that has been building up the anticipation of the tape being released, would you want to admit to everyone that it was a huge disappointment? They are all saying that this is finally proof that Casey did it. Huh? Are they watching a different tape? No, they (the haters) have to pretend that it was well worth the wait and it shows what they have been saying all along.

WTH?? I hope this bites them right you know where. A Mother sitting in a room for 30 or 45 minutes? Hears this or sees ? How is this VERY inflammatory? THe talking heads have been talking like this is such a big deal? I don’t see how it would have changed the verdict.
I hope Spidergirl that karma get’s all of the haters and hope it get’s them good.What is wrong with them?
Any compassion from any of them? Hell no! I’m so mad ,What was this supposed to mean? I must be missing something. I think it was all hype and BS.

Everything that is happening is DESIGNED to continue the DRAMA and collect on this tragedy.
I’m surprised another poll hasnt gone out to boost the egos for the losers. Yuri and Baby Huey’s reputations will need a boost , after all, if anything they should’ve had a public firing instead of throwing out lame polls to see where their reputations stand. If anything the ppl of Florida should be outraged over the fact that these ppl are still collecting their hard earned monies without delivering the goods……..I dont feel sorry for anyone who supports such BS

Addie,
I don’t know any of those OC posters, but don’t go back at all to them heartless bastards. What has happened to peoples hearts. I hope Karma bites them in the ass too. I’m just so damn disgusted with all of this hate, it’s about to wear me down.

If they had your problems they woldn’t think anything funny about ALL of it. It’s sad you have to go through this, but to have heartless bastatrds laughing and thinking it’s funny, they deserve anything they get.
Don’t read their crap, don’t go back there, it will only bring you down and hurt worse. I’m sorry you had to see cruel crap from the evils haters. I would love to get a hold of them and try to shake sone compassion in them.I don’t think they know the meaning.

Oh and LOL Omar had quite an adventure! Her Daughter was at the hosp the day before, and THEY SENT HER HOME. Well her Dtr woke up in labor and time to push kind lol, so called ambulance and they took to nearest hosp…. and Omar goes to the other hosp not knowing…and was frantic because they dont have her dtr there! It all ends well, Omar made it, 10 min after she got there Baby Raine made her grand enterance! (brief history refresher: her dtr started having contractions gosh over a month ago and it was way to early. SO they kept giving her meds to stop them weekly sometimes I think poss multi times weekly) So she is early but all fine and dandy and a head full of dark hair!!!

Addie,
Oh I see, THe bastards creep over here???? What snakes and how chicken. I hope they feel better now. I WISH I knew who they were.
You tell us all of the time how you are Addie.
WE care!! Who cares about them.? I hate sneekers. Why don’t they have balls enough to show who they are over HERE?
We love you Addie, take care and don’t pay any attention to those that don’t, they aren’t worth it.

Thanks everyone. Ive only read a few articles over there& I never post. just read & my jaw dropped when I read that hateful comment& many more. oh and they are saying that jb is luring people over here to give them a virus and 1 said that her virus protection software detected it or something LOL IDIOTS! I’ll never go back and I will be canceling my subscription bc I can’t believe they allow that kinda behavior. CONGRATS OMAR!!

@addie, your a super person and we don’t give a hoot about what mean and cold hearted people say… we luvs you dear heart 😉

so now JB is sending our machines a virus??

buahahahahahahahahahahahaha and LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

is this the same person saying it that gives, posts and writes foul lies and private personal information about people who visit this blog? maybe someone should alert them that it is that person i mention that is the

Good morning all 🙂
Still a loyal daily follower, rarely poking my 2 cents in, just want y’all (esp. JB) to know I’m with u in heart.
I miss snoop!! Where is she??

NE way I’ve been wanting to share my thought on an issue but have been holding back back in fear of having my comment copied and plastered
at hatrers sites to be picked apart and give them their laugh of the day.
Not to mention the timing of us missionites being accused of thinking everyone accused is innocent.
And I’m sure some here will even think I’m off my rocker, but I don’t care cuz I know you’ll all be nice 🙂 K here goes,
I am really worried about the so called “Justice Seekers” wanting to play “The God of Karma”.
You know how they act like they are soooo sure that Casey WILL mess up again, kinda like 5 yrs to the day of Natalee Holloways dissapearance a dead girl is found in a hotel room registered to Joran Van der Sloot.
A beating so severe they had to assume Joran used a baseball bat, when that was proven a lie they claimed it was a tennis racket,, we all know the guy had neither, and neither were ever found. So this girl was beatin, stabbed, strangled, suffocated, and had a broken neck ???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???
If this ain’t the biggest international setup ever,,, I dunno …… There’s not words to describe my outrage!!!
I believe without a doubt he knows what happened to Natalee, I think the truth is in one of his stories, and I think he is very sick and disturbed for lying to Beth, breaking her heart over and over, but I believe Beth purchased her justice with donation funds and this sickens me!

BTW…..
I do not think Beth had anyone murdered!!
I think Stephany died in a car wreck, or killed in another country ( I read a while back that she was an activist of some sort, (peace cor. type deal) a week or so before this all went down, a bunch of puruvian were killed in a jungle somewhere fighting for someones rights or something and 1/2 the bodies were found and shipped back to Peru and the others still MIA.
Anyways this would explain why the officials claim her body was too decomposed for an accurate autopsy. 3 DAYS!!! In an AIR CONDITIONED hotel room!!!!

Idk spidey lol like I said I’m not a regular over there I just read an article every now and then& have only read some of the comments twice ( today being the second time) but that is whats being said lol kookoos if ya ask me & honestly most of them over there seem like a bunch of teenagers! I take that back, more like elementary kids cuz I have/had teenagers and they know/knew better then to act like that and say those kinds of things. especially about someone’s health or physical limitations/ conditions. they must live very sad dark lonely lives and that of course is MHO 🙂 i hope you all have a good weekend& thank you for being here for me

Addie,
I don’t think they’re children or teenagers. Sadly a bunch of Tit Mom wannabees! That’s even worse. You can almost excuse a kid, but hateful adults, no way and they are teaching their kids to be just like them.
Nothing worse than cruel “adults”

I watched the video and it is sincere. Her reactions are real. She is reacting to the whole of it all. Learning her daughter was dumped in a swamp.

Now what I want to know is this? Judge S said it was too inflamatory……It was not, it was a normal reaction. This tape would not have changed the mind of any juror. So, what was he doing? I believe he wanted the jury pool to believe they had proof under seal. IMO

lol Addie I went and read lol. The person whom “I” supposedly hijacked their name, came on and posted that It was he/she that posted the comment and no one hijacked the user name lol. The reason “I” got credit, and I will take it as credit because they came here and READ MY COMMENT!!! Pat myself on the back, a lurking soul read my post. What is funny is it was and still is true!

Addie, dont let them get you or anyone else down, they are just childish. And hopefully childless with all the hate they spew. Like I said before, I only posted there 1 time and that was long ago now. I wouldnt give them the satisfaction to argue with me, and thats what it is, no debate or dialogue. BULLING. And all OS seems to woory about is the hits lol. Just look at the comment counts lol

Btw my comment at 8pm when I said morning all, I typed that comment on my iPod before I left for work and the battery went dead before I was able to post it.
I don’t think I’ve ever name called on here esp. not aimed at an individual ……til now Because I dispise NG like no other woman!!! My son calls her Ta Ta Mom,, he was watching DWS and called me the second it flopped out and knew I’d get a kick out of it!
Ta Ta Mom

Think about this Addie, We are all such interesting folks, these simple minded people come to The Mission to read. They come here often enough to know things about us that make us personal to them, I feel HONORED!!! I read that we are like a soap opera, well they watch enough to know us like their fav show lol.

Thank YOU, I shall take my virtual bow now. I have a super keen idea that a couple of the posters are the same person, if you read their comments and times, lol

The OS 10 work hard to show their hate for kc, but the case is way too complicated for them to comprehend. Everything is black and white to them. They think because kc knew Caylee was dead on Dec 11th, that proves that she murdered Caylee. I feel bad for them.

NTS, you are such a strong person!!! Proud to know ya honey pie! I hope you take a good hot shower after you leave. If your water bill gets to high, I will go with ya to JB for a raise, your such a hard worker. 🙂

NTS – I don’t think the OS 10 work hard at anything! This hate thing comes natural to them. The wake up hating and go to bed hating. They hate Casey. They hate Baez. They hate Cheney Mason. They hate Dot Sims. They hate you. They hate Misty. They hate the Mission. When they get tired of hating all those people, they turn on each other. They all fancy themselves to be amateur detectives, amateur pyshologists, amateur body language readers. In reality, I think they just hate it that everyone else has real lives and theirs are all just make-believe. JMamateurO

Seems that way! lol Well I see that that Eddie something came back and said that he/she did write the post and lol no one said wow, really sorry to accuse someone of something they didnt do lol. But I expect no less for people so bent of hate, Saw this on a sign to day lol and reminded me of them from yesterdays actions

The Devil doesn’t care how much good you do. Just doesn’t want you do do it everyday… He probably is happy with them.

I wonder too after reading that someone posted that Hal was a poster by diff names. I wonder too how many times someone from there does post inflammatory stuff to keep folks posting and fussing back and forth? gotta pay the bills some how IMO.

Notthatsnart,
A GREAT question what made Strickland do that.
I think we have a lot of criminal Big dog behaviour going on. I hope someone BIG can get to the bottom of this.
But all of the Big Dogs are in it. It IS scarey for sure.lolypop@AsTheMIssionTurns.com LMAO!
If they want drama over here well we WILL embrace it.

Just watched the video, I really didnt see anything earth shaking. I gonna go back and read about this in the docs, what reason did Casey think she was going there? I am with you on that one Spidy, if she did or didn’t know thats where the baby was, either way with the location and discription of the find who wouldnt be upset? Honestly?

Really Comment? I should try it too…thejbmission & my name. I’m always curious. I know what they say when they come here, so I can just imagine what those sickos say about me elsewhere. Unrealisticly believing that they know me is just mind boggling.
Anywho…I’m off to watch “THE VIDEO” Honestly, I’m not expecting much. I’ll make my prediction now. I’ll say that the video made KC seem less guilty and this is why Stan Strickland withheld it.

I can’t imagine this video proving anything and even if it does, well that’s too F-ing bad.
Next time, Orange county should get the goods before taking an iffy case to nth degree like 1st degree murder WITH death penalty. Thank God that girl wasn’t convicted. I would have lost all hope for the American justice system! Just sayin…

JB,
If they don’t stop harrassing you, they do have a seriously bad problem.
What is wrong with these idiots? There was enough fighting going on before the trial, during the trial and now they don’t know what to do with themselves.
Besides I miss you more here.
Yeah the video was all a bunch of hype and I don’t understand why they made it seem so dramatic.
It was sad and I agree with Jose, it had tobe torture. That’s just NOT right.
And did yyou hear one of the detectives say, alright she’s had enough???? Are they kidding us? What is wrong with these @@@@@@@@? They are really getting worse everyday. . When Jose said it was like water boarding, he wasn’t kidding and when the jurors say what else did they hide. The tape hype, the can of s, 84 seaches of chrollrofoam, hype. That’s all the state had was hype and now they just proved it wwith this tape.o

My apologies for being so off the blog topic, but I wanted the warn the good folks (well most are good) about visiting the “dark place” —- as I’ve heard NTS’s home is referred to. Technically, it’s thejbmission.wordpress.com. Anyhow…..the blog owner (idiot pro-casey, pro-criminal witch from New Orleans) is id’ing non-regulars and sending nasty computer viruses to them!!! Thankfully my antivirus tools caught it because it’s a bad one. What a mean witch that JB is!!!!! I have a hunch her
pal NTS helped her set it up. So……avoid it for now unless you have good antivirus/worm software installed. If mine didnt catch it in time, I’m pretty sure my hard drive would be fully corrupted by now! It looks like she also did s “pingback” of my IP before I even tried to post. She was attempting (but failed hahaha) to infect my entire list of personal and work contacts. What a cow……I wish I was techie enough to give her some of her own poisonous medicine!! Lol…..she deserves that and more…..given of her complete adoration of evil Casey!

Reply Posted by: Jess | Friday, September 30, 2011 at 3:03 AM

Jess…Helloooooooo… How did I get your IP if you’ve never commented here?
Obviously, you’re one of Haters who harass me. Thanks for spreading the word.
😀 JB
So now not only am I mean and hateful, I’m a computer geek. hehehehehe…so funny!!

Lolypop,
I agree, it was cruel. Lt. Tammy Unser and Sgt. Richardson were the two hired hitmen to try and set up Casey in front of a television.
At this very moment, Jose Baez is standing at the admit window trying to get to his client. That day! It took him over an hour to get to his client. Casey’s rights were horribly violated on this day.

JB,
There should be some serious @@@@ kickin’ from here. Did someone come in and think that we would enjoy their company?Sadly mistaken.
It’s just fine. WE don’t have our tails in a knot like they do and it must be driving them crazy.
I haven’t been to many blogs, but you tube had them there also. So I just say something every now and then because I want to, but they are vicious over there. I can only imagine how it is on other blogs.
I just wonder what life was for them before 2008? They didn’t have one obviously. I’m really happy and thankful for you and Spidegirl to have the gumption to put up a good site for Casey. She does need our support and besides that we need each other. SO, would they kindly go on to their hate site and dwell on all of their hate and just leave it there.

JB,
They were, weren’t they. Just like they were violated when they took her to Universal and her rights are still being violated. Things happen to Casey that have never been thought of before.
I feel so sorry for her. I can’t even begin to imagine what life is for her. I’m just thankful she has the defense team and they are GREAT and kind hearted. A RARITY these days, isn’t it?

IIRC, she’s finally given a sedative and is allowed to speak with her attorney in this conference room / attorney-client room. Notice how JB is looking around. He said he often wondered if this room was bugged.

IMO, the only reason Stan Strickland made an issue of not allowing this tape was because it didn’t prove anything. Casey acted appropriately. If you think back you’ll remember that Ashton & Burdick did not fight to get this video allowed at trial. Reason: Because it proves nothing.
A lot of hoopla for NOTHING! Enough said…

I should remind myself too..regarding this cheesy video. The Keystone Kops who set this up didn’t have a genuine video recorder, so get this…LOL They set up a camcorder to face the monitor. Thats why you see the side of a television in the video and that’s why is so grainy and poor quality.
Which is probably another reason Strickland didn’t want to use it. LOL It was an embarrassment!!

Yes Arkansas,
I’m surprise they didn’t charge her for the VCR tape. What do they run nowadays… 3 bucks?
😀

On another note… I have to wonder now…Why is it, 4 different people set out to spread the word by blabbing to anyone who’ll listen, “Casey is a liar”? I find that odd. It’s like if you belonged to a group who were doing something illegal and you defected. Wouldn’t the group go on the defensive and begin claiming that you are a liar?
So who was the first to call Casey a liar? GA, CA, RP and SS. Interesting…

LOLOLOL Just imagine if Judge Perry had given George Anthony the instrustions that this Judge gives this witness! GA would have had a stroke lol
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I agree, we saw his true colors at the depositions, he didnt have the upper hand, and couldnt control the situation so he lost it. I think he felt since he was the grieving grandfather or victim in his mind that he could answer whatever quesiton he wanted and refuse to answer what he didnt. I still remember his reaction to the question about seeing his granddaughter for the last time. He never broke down, just got real defensive and made it personal. That in itself showed it was personal because I feel the conditions he left her in was, well, you know the rest.

The judge in the CAli case is far more professional IMO, took complete control of his court, in other words, you know where you stand. I didnt see anyone slobbering and smacking gum like the JBS court and spectators walking in with flipflops and jeans down their arses….

So, yes. George would’ve had to double up on his lipitor and do triple tannings sessons to walk in that courtroom……

Another things that I was thinking of. Remember when George told Casey she better renew her driver’s license while she was incarcerated? Gee, he seemed so sure she’d be released as tho he knew she had nothing to do with it huh? just sayin…….

Ah yes, GCG, his telling her to renew her driver’s license, that says a lot. I still can not believe why George wasn’t pressed harder by LE and again on the stand. I think they should have pushed until that true violent personality came forth. He seemed like a volcano ready to erupt but
did his best to play it cool. After all he might have disturbed his polished look. Something else bothers me is that he always (more than Cindy) was so well groomed, THAT is important to him but doesn’t cover it. As a parent, grandparent in a terrible situation like that, I’m sure I would
have always looked quite ruffled, no sleep, would have lost weight, couldn’ eat, the works.
They had the time and upbeat to get tatoos and go on cruise. It is like a movie played out in real life where the one never suspected is probably the villian. Geez, that one license remark got
me going. lol

Hi Comment,
Thanks for reminding us about the cruise the Ant’s found time to enjoy and those gaudy tattoos! It seems to me that the A’s think they won the lottery! I was amazed how George always looked so spiffy. He probably wore color coordinated clothing at the motel room the night he was pretending to commit suicide. God forbid George Anthony to be found in sweat pants and holey Tshirt! LOL
IMO, had the A’s not went out publicly and boldly supported Casey early on, I don’t think there would have been protesting and such hatred for Casey. To me they were asking for it by being so vocal. They should have stayed at home and kept their mouths shut like normal people instead of playing up for the cameras.

JB,
You’re right, they did make it harder for Casey and continue to.
Also, I just wanted to say or ask WHY in the video did they make it where you couldn’t hear.
I’m sure that those detectives were mouthing her and they didn’t want to be even more embarressed.
If I were George and Cindy, I would have done just what you say, SHUT UP!
They aren’t grieving their Granddaughter’s loss at all.
Everyone says Casey has no proof he molested her, well George made sure Caylee’s remains wouldn’t be able to prove he molested her. He’s worse than a snake and how a mother can sit by and watch her daughter grieving like that is so beyond me.Cindy knows what happened. Mothers sometime will do anything to save those @@@@@@@@. I can’t imagine!

I do believe the Judge took the opportunity to spew his bias. He had no opposing view from the state. Only the media. He could have said that both sides reviewed and agreed the tape should not be released until after the trial. But instead, he had to go and say it was highly inflamatory. Which it was not. It was just another opportunity for him to taint the jury pool. IMO

NTS @ 9:49 – There is no way that tape was “highly inflamatory” no matter how you view it. The haters are seeing what they want to see, if they can see anything at all. It makes me wonder about those sealed photos that are supposed to be so awful. Maybe there’s nothing to those either.

Maybe Strickland meant the tape was highly flammable, as in don’t light a cigarette near it. Ha.

GCG you always crack me up! LOL I was thinking of one time when during the trial on direct Jose was asking GA about something cant remb exact questions and GA went into this tizzy and said Your are not gonna take this away from me (paraphrasing I know) thats first thing I thought of when I heard this Judge. This Judge Pastor tells each witness this.

Those detectives already knew where Caylee was. They had been called out there in August and besides, Kronk told his son a month before it was reported. So I b believe Kronk, the detectives and George all knew what was going to happen. Casey didn’t! I would have loved to hear what the detectives were saying to her. Who took that video?.
They say that they told her about bones being found near a lake, which I don’t believe, but did anyone tell her about Kronk’s call in August ?

This tape that was released is really grainy. SO how may I ask can anyone watching SAY THAT CASEY DIDNT SHED TEARS? LOL OMG! Its such poor quality that you could make it be what you want either way! I cant believe they went to the trouble to set Casey up and not have the very best video possible to use in court lol……
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(copied from Hal at os)

The poor quality of the Casey Anthony jail tape undercut the hoopla over its release Friday.

Why was it so fuzzy?

“The sheriff’s office called and asked if there was any security video,” Allen Moore, spokesman for the Orange County Jail, said this morning. “They came over with a video camera and took pictures off the monitor. That’s why it was so grainy.”

The security video could not be pulled from the system, because the hard drive was failing, and they could not get the video to transfer out in any sort of medium, Moore added. Normally, the video would be part of the system 30 to 60 days, but in this instance, they had to get the video out quickly because the overrides would occur in days, Moore said.

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this is from the same OCSO that is working on an investigation that will end up being a DP case… SHODDY LOL

GasCan,
I can’t remember muh about Kio and Abby. Was this earlier on in 2008? Will you refresh me on that? Casey didn’t stand a chance, did she? Here all of this is going on, she’s in jail for what? She must have felt totally helpless. I do believe her when she say’s she doesn’t where Caylee is. I honestly believe IF she did at this time, she would have told them then. This is the most scary thing to me. They have what they wanted, everyone hating Casey and it isn’t over.Perry can keep it going for as long as he wants.

Mimi,
That tape isrediculous. The idiots on you tube, say it’s better on TV. How’s that. The screen is bigger? There’s no way they can make sense out of it. It’s just a bunch of COLD heart Big D’s standing around her doing what? Did they want us NOT to hear what they were saying?
Guess I’ll go to bed, thinking about it again tonight. At least I can rest without everyone wanting me dead. I feel so bad for Casey.

A few months ago I asked why the Sheriffs Department responded to Cindy’s 911 call and we all agreed that it was probably in their (OCSO’s) jurisdiction and not the Orlando Police Department’s. I live in a different county of Florida in a development probably similar to the one the Anthony’s live in.

Last week there were some cars broken into on the street next to mine and the owners were surprised when the Sheriffs Department responded to the 911 call instead of the city police. It turns out that 1/2 of that street and 1/2 of the street I live on were never annexed into the city!! I can leave my house (in the city) walk across the street to my friends house (in the county) through his back yard (county), another yard (county) and across that street and I am back in the city again!! Some of these people have lived here for over 20 years and this was just discovered. If you’re not confused enough already, if I walk through the gate in my back yard, I am no longer in my city, nor am I on county property – I’m in another city entirely!

My friend across the street has always wanted to raise bantam chickens but it’s not allowed in the city. Guess who is building a chicken coop today? Yep.

hey there NTS, i sure do hope your having an awesome day / evening so far

and btw i agree totally about your analysis on the video tape, i found nothing inflammatory about it whatsoever and it was imho also a way to taint not just the jury pool but the public into thinking what it was not (to make people hate KCA more if you ask me)… and besides, the person that witnessed the event take place already spoke way back when, so there was NOTHING new that we learned or saw from viewing this tape…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKT-w-s-Po0 starting at about 1 minute and 15 seconds is the interview that was released way back when about KCA’s reaction… did people who saw this “newly” released video forget that they already knew what happened?? i mean this person told LE and already told the world what KCA’s reaction was… which actually sounded way more exaggerated then the actual video, but that is neither here nor there, but everyone already knew… so what is so inflammatory or new about this video is what i ask… there be some forgetful folks running amok if they forgot they already knew what they were gonna see…

Spidergirl,
That lady couldn’t even loosen the hancuffs because they were afraid she would hurt herself. Her heart beaating fast, her hands swelling and sweaty and they were afraid for her life? t’s a wonder she din’t have a heare staring down at her. It seemed she needed heelp already. What were they waiting for AND WHY was she handcuffed? Where was she going to go?Can you imagine how time wass for her? Beaz was right. It was more like torture. I’m sure that the jury caught that too. Baez told the jury about it, right? Or wanted to tell it., I think!

hope your having a super night so far, I wonder, has anyone ever wondered also, how at the exact moment that there just happened to be news coverage of the found body while KCA just happened to be in that room where the television was located and also a video recorder pointed right at where she was sitting. seems a bit of a coincidence doesn’t it? seems by your questions your wondering the same thing I am. and also sense the fact that they set her up to be on camera while she first learned of this discovery. but maybe just a few thinking heads instead of talking heads see that. they knew what they were doing, with out a doubt in my mind they knew full well they would “capture” this moment on tape.

thespidergirl & lolypop – There is little doubt in my mind that it was all a setup. LE in Orange County seems to be very creative in the way they have handled aspects of this case, as well as others. They seem to have an information leakage problem as well. To me this was evident in the way details of the case were fed to the media through “a source close to the investigation” who, of course, went unnamed.

Last year there was a highly publicized (at least in the Orlando area) case in which an OCSA officer was demoted for leaking details of a case. It was also found, at that time, that he had leaked information in another case. This incident created a lot of friction between OCSO and the SAO. The newspaper in Orlando ran many stories and editorials about it.

I believe that the high levels of chloroform reported by Dr. Vass was an instance where info was released a little too soon. As Dr.Vass said in an email, he felt it was premature. I have a feeling that it might have been a preliminary finding that he might not have been that confident in. Once it got out, however, there was no turning back and the prosecution was more or less forced to make that a murder weapon because it had been so widely reported. All just MOO

Hi Spidergirl,
Thanks and so far a great night..Hope you are too. : )
I think it is HIGHLY suspicious! Perfect timing, right? Did they tell Casey why she was coming in there? I wouldn’t treat a dog or pet of any kind the way that they did Casey.
Why do you think they didn’t have a better audio? I’m sure the detectives were treating her crap, fgrom the way that one descibed how Casey was.
It was really a tape that all America should watch and say WTH??? Are they kidding me? THis is America. Her lawyer, Baez, WHY didn’t they let him in first.
Cruel and unusual punishment to say the least.They had no limits. I am so thanful for Baez. With that group he and Casey were having to fight, it’s a miracle that the jury caught it all. I really don’t believe that they trusted the prosecuters.

Yd. I agree. Dr Voss said in an email that he was thinking about getting out of the business anyway after vincent apologized to him about the early release. I am sure he caught he double hockey sticks from his peers for making such a statement. He had to go with it at that point, if he wanted to get paid. IMO

lolypop: also, just the fact that they held Jose at bay while they did their nasty. I would like to see this country to be a little more civilized than that. If an inmate that is awaiting trial wants to see their lawyer, then the jail in no way shape or form should stand in the way.

YellowDog,
Remember when Ashton ran up to Vass when he was testifying and said Oh, I gave you the wrong can?What was that about. What they did was put all of this suff on the table that looked like it was really some, BIG pie of evidence, but was like the tape we kept hearing about, ALL HYPE. All BS! I wish that the jury would have asked to smell what was in those cans.
There you go again, they KNEW the jury wouldn’t. . And when AShton made that big scene about smelling something, I believe it was the bug man, he threw 3 cans up there. The jury must have been stunned at the prosecuters behaviour. Even AShton sitting a few feet away and laughing most of the time. I kept thinking Perry was going to say somethhing, but of course, he thought it was going his way. I remember after Ashton ‘s closingh that the talking heads were saying that THEY wish they had more. Oh, Really? So I guess that’s why Dureck’s sounded marvelous. lol

I wonder what they are going to do with those cans of death. Will they hold on to them in case there is a wrongful death suit? The problem is, that they may not even smell. Just like the carpet in the box that jeff couldn’t open. Jeff’s angry laughter approach turned the jury off. Judge Perry romancing the jurors with hamburgers and seafood and constantly schooling Jb like he was little johnny, was also a big turn off for the jury. These are red flags for most people. There is not need for these kind of theatrics.

ps: isn’t there something ironic about a Dr of death (voss) opening up a can of death and taken aback at the smell? The smell he has been smelling for 30 years takes him aback? lol

lolypop: I am unaware of the jury seeing this video at all. I don’t think they saw it and I don’t think it would have changed anything. When the officer said I think she’s had enough, he is admitting what he is doing is wrong in the first place. They treated her like a lab rat, and its too bad they didn’t have the gall to stand up to their boss and say do it yourself. I find it hard to believe that the two jail house officers thought this one up on their own.

I agree notsosmart!
He had to wait while she was in there alone and it was ok for the, whoever taped to tape Baez and Casey.
And for the ones that want to see something in this that is inflammatory, I’d like to ask them, with the technical camers and audio we have now why did they screw up so bad. It in no way hurts Casey and if anything it should help.
If something was really bad going on in there where that camera is, good luck because they won’t be able to tell what’s going on anyway.

NTS,
You’re so right about Ashton’s behavior. Appalling! Even Judge Perry’s. For those who disagree, just watch an hour of the MJ trial.
Mimi shared a video up thread showing how the Judge instructed the witnesses. Needless to say, it made JP’s courtroom look like a scene from that old movie, “To Kill a Mockingbird”.

NTS!
Strange you mentioned the fall. I’ve wondered about that many times and even told my husband that I really don’t believe that was an accident.
Of course we will never know that, that’s for sure. Weren’t her feet in shackles. Damn, where do they think she’s going to run to in that building?
The way they’re looking at her, doesn’t look very caring, does it?What’s with OK we can let her go now? ??There was a lot more to this video that we will never know about. I’m actually shocked that they wanted it out so bad. It’s damning to the state, I believe. They want MORE??Like they say be careful what you wish for.

The video is inflammitory alright….to the PROSECUTION! What a travesty. At the 30 second mark one can see Casey’s chest start to heave dramatically as she gasps for air. After a couple of ragged breaths she lets her head fall back to the wall behind her and looks upwards, towards Heaven…..sighs….then doubles over crying.

How could that ever be an inappropriate response?

The haterz claims she only got upset because she knew it was Caylee even before the ME made her ruling on the DNA and remains.

Well, DUH! If the DT’s side is true then she knew Caylee was dead since the beginning but DID NOT know WHERE her remains were and this is the moment she KNEW that she’d been FRAMED by the remains being so close to home

or

She wasn’t even sure Caylee was realy dead the whole time and this is the moment she discovers it is very likely Caylee that has been found. A small child, matching Caylee’s age, in her neighborhood, no other young child reported missing nearby….ALL adds up to the remains being Caylee.

Either way, Casey didn’t put Caylee there. If she had I can’t imagine her being so emotionally distraught at their discovery since they were so close by. In fact, she would have expected the remains to have been found much, much sooner

I think the video is highly inflammatory. I can’t watch it though. I assume it’s highly inflammatory towards the prosecution. It sounds to me like it is torture. So much so that I can’t go look at it. I cannot imagine the cruelty involved and I can’t bear to watch it.

I think they sealed it because it would have shown that Casey was acting normal. That would go against their theory that she is a child-murderer. It really is amazing that Baez and his team were able to wade through the corruption. It inspires me.

One thing I could never figure out about Dr. Vass was how could he even test the air in good faith after chloroform and cleaning products have been used? Did he not know about it? I read the email he sent saying the results were premature. Then I knew he was not like the other witnesses who were so obviously corrupt. Same as the software guy – he wrote that disclaimer on his website and pointed the finger directly at LE. Are they the only two witnesses who have tried to distance themselves from the prosecution?

I don’t meant to sound all morally superior. I do watch horrific things sometimes (like obsessively watching the MJ trial). Just can’t watch this video. I hope I didn’t sound all judgmental. I like reading the interpretations of those who did watch it and I’m glad I have the filter!

Sam – I had reservations about watching the video, too. It was only after everybody started talking about the poor quality that I changed my mind, and I’m glad I did. It was no where near as bad as I had thought it would be. Not even close. That’s just my perspective. I’m not trying to talk you into it.

My main interest was the film quality, however. Casey’s reaction was secondary. Seeing the quality of the video and the way in which it was copied leads me to think there is something going on behind the scenes. There is more to this video story than we have been told. JMO

I agree with Baez, IT WAS INTENTIONAL INFLICTION OF EMOTIONAL DISTRESS!

And I call BS on the state of Florida, they had a purpose. Why else would they be taking Casey to medical for “privacy?” At the time they knew she didn’t know anything about the discovery of bones, THEY DID!

*****
I got a call on Thursday from the hospital that my husband was in an accident, (he is fine) however, I got emotional, panicked, my mind went threw all the possibilities although I knew nothing of the details. My response did not prove that I had anything to do with the accident, it meant that I knew nothing, because if I had then I wouldn’t have reacted in panic.

Casey reacted to the possibility it may have been Caylee. I feel bad she had to hear it that way.

hey MWM, nice to see you, and I sure do hope that you husband is okay and out of harms way on that accident he had, I will send prayers

and just a mention about that room she was in and the video, what i have found is that actually after doing a little more reading and listening to Lt. TU what she said was that she was instructed to move KCA into that medical unit AFTER she already heard about a babies body that had been found near her parents home in the woods.

So she was already aware of the finding, and they moved her there to observe her to ensure she wouldn’t hurt herself. They allowed the television to remain on in there and allowed her to watch about ten minutes of these “details” described by the news station that was on while she was there. it was about ten minutes until the medical doctors and psych doctors said “she’s had enough” and moved her into a move private conference type room in the medical unit, this was where she would wait for JB and allowed the sedatives to “kick” in to calm her down.

It is no question that they as much as KCA did, they at the jail made a huge big deal out of this news coverage, and ensured that she continued to show “signs” they they would and could consider incriminating. But they didn’t get that, they got what a mother would do if her daughter was indeed gone after the horrific accident that her father told her about. it became real to her. all the jail wanted was to catch her doing or saying ANYTHING they could pass along to police as incriminating… imho that is what i see in that video and what i hear in the interviews with jail workers…

this is how it occurred according to Lt. TU, so she knew about it BEFORE entering that room to be video taped…

About the video WHY would the 1st judge, Strickland have it sealed and WHY did Perry make such a big deal out of it? He say’s so Casey would have a fair trial? BS
I will never believe that they were even concerned about that.
SO, why did Perry hype inflammatory?
The haters say because she knew she was dead and faking it?How do you fake that.
And CONCERN? If you’re heart is pounding like that, wouldn’t you loosen their clothes, same as HANDCUFFS? THat wasn’t a big request for Casey to ask to have them loosened. It was to me a medical request. What kind of medical crew was there?
I’m confused as to why seeing a MOther see such terrible news and the way she reacted made her guilty?
What exactly did the judges know? Did they believe she was guilty and planned to show her reactions were fake? I just don’t get it at all.
I know the more I find out things after the trial make me believe someone, NOT CASEY was doing a major cover-up. ?

JB, I watched the jailhouse tapes again and again today. Hoopla is right, anyone is apt to have a very like reaction on being told that their child’s remains were found. I don’t recall that they knew for sure yet said she reacted, because SHE knew, but we know that is what they wanted her to believe. Now, I am thinking that the judges left out those tapes because the “Hoopla” led us all to believe they were terrible. In doing it that way it caused us to think she reacted more guilty than we now observe, she did not. Perry’s fair trial comment was just BS. Imo they were afraid the tapes would prove that she had a perfectly normal reaction, not one that hollered out guilty. This has brought me more disrespect of judge Strickland and judge Perry than I already had.

BTW, shouldn’t add this but when I heard these tapes were out, I went to MD’s blog to view and didn’t find them posted. I thought they would be a big headliner there. Seems odd since he was so into the whole thing

Now!!
Hi everyone. I think that I got up to early this morning. I had typed my message about the tape, in the discuss anything. Like I said woke up too early.
Anyway now I have it there and here so if I can I will take it out over there. LOL

I agree Comment,
In fact I have, if possible even LESS respect for anyone on the prosecution team, the judges & the talking heads. HOW any of them can say this was OK and proves her guilty.
TALK about lying? For 3 years we were lied to.
None of them have spent any time in jail.
Casey did what? Was in for 3 years and one year EXTRA probation and will be given pure hell for the rest of her life.
The whole trial was hoopla and the jury couldn’t and wouldn’t buy it. Thank goodness we still have some that aren’t brain washed and have common sense.
I don’t know what happened to free thinking people. They are extinct.

holy heck i thought that girl would be bound to prison forever due to the prosecutor that also did this to another person… apparently he is one of those that thinks every murder is a satanic ritual of some kind… i guess corruption in the government isn’t only something that happens in the Americas… wow MWM thanks for that awesome news!!

btw just a comment to add to the lying issue, she did tell the truth at first, but they didn’t want to hear it, then a lady said she witnessed AK at the scene – found to be untrue, and the media said she acted strangely not the way they thought she should, then all the DNA evidence they supposedly found 47 days AFTER in a bra strap that they just happen to forget when they were there the first time – so it was highly contaminated, why wouldn’t her DNA be there she lived with the victim MK, oh and the bathroom pictures the media released showed blood everywhere, when in fact, that isn’t what AK was showering in, that bathroom didn’t look bloody at all, amazing how much the media and a prosecutor and a few interrogating cops who DON’T listen and beat you down like the mafia criminals to get you to agree to ANYTHING… who wouldn’t lie in her shoes, but i guess she should pay the costs for lying, or maybe those damn cops should…

that is a case i have been following and sadly, the coincidences are so crazy, i guess as long as the cops think you guilty, then the media attacks, it surely means the innocent don’t stand a chance in hell of proving even their own innocence. your pretty much screwed… hate to say it, but thank goodness the media, even though they wanted to show her guilt, what they actually did was enlighten folks as to the truth of what they were doing… and that prosecutor should be FIRED, oh and did they tell everyone here in America that he, Giuliano Mignini was charged for illegally handling cases and also has ruined many many peoples lives because they dared speak out against him?

beware folks that are so into just believing just because the accusers are cops or prosecutors, because yes, EVEN THEY WILL LIE, but no worries, they won’t be charged a dime for it… but maybe you will be next, then and only then will you join us all who strive for the truth and justice of the innocent here at the mission… and when it’s your life on the line, you might not think we are so crazy and off the grid of sound mental heath as you keep claiming we are…

IMO the tape is such poor quality because her reaction was very emotional and made her apear not guilty, which of course is just the opposite of what they wanted us all the believe for the past couple of years.
I don’t know if the video anyone else watched was better than the version I seen, but I could not see squat!! Couldn’t see tears that I am sure were there.
If I didn’t know what I was watching I would think she just looked extremely bored, and getting impatient and frustrated.
HollysGmas description of what she saw, is exactly what I thought I saw, knowing what I was watching.
So I think by making the quality so shitty they can fuel the haters, seeing and interpreting it however they wish to fit their thoughts of her guilt.

I am elated to hear of the exoneration of Amanda. I think there are some very eery similarities between the Casey and Amanda case..like DNA and shoddy work and…well…what appears as possible manufacturing…just glad she is coming home 🙂

Wow, interesting discussions! And I’m soooo happy Amanda Knox is finally free. She was another one whom LE just didn’t like and honestly I saw her as a bit cocky too but “NO, sorry…there wasn’t any solid evidence that said she was guilty of murder”. I think Amanda Knox was Italy’s Casey Anthony. Yes it walked like a duck, quacked like a duck but the evidence said it wasn’t a duck.
lol.. Let me explain. It was a person in a Duck Costume.

Interesting information on tobacco Zuben. I like the smell of tobacco and marijuana. It’s a woodsy scent, reminds of the many camping trips that I took my kids on. We always managed to have the biggest log fire in the campgroud! We went twice a year.. Halloween and Easter. My kids didn’t know what it was like to trick or treat at home. We always did that at the campgroud. Tons of fun!!
So yesss…there’s a lot worst smells than tobacco..that’s for sure. Nothing’s worst than the cheap perfume that I’m sure many of my Hater Fans use.
I say to them…”If you can’t afford the good stuff, try soap” LOL
As you would have guessed they’re jumping on this new revelation that I smoke like RATS on CHEESE. 😀 One of them, likely a so-called Christian just wrote in a comment that she wishes I would die. How nice..lol ( I don’t think anyone’s said that to me before ) I’m so hurt, I think I’ll commit suicide. There are you happy now!! boo hoo hoo… NOT!! GMAFB!! Go play in traffic!! 😀
So heads up Zuben, I’m sure you’ll be next. You possible marijuana cultivator, you! lol Ahh…I hate to say it Zub, but you would probably grow the most primo stuff in the country. lol
Honestly, I’d like to try and grow it too. Not to use it..but just to see. Oh well…maybe next year when I move to California. I heard its legal to have a couple of plants there.
Indy, like you.. If Obama gets re-elected, there’s a good chance for legalization. You never hear about people leaving a pot party then having a fight in the parking lot like you hear about bar rooms.

Oh, JB,
People like that really piss me off. They’re all former smokers and just pissed off. If it was that they were worried about our heath, they would make drinking illegal.
, ‘m not againt drinking smoking, I yes I hope that they do legalize pot.
I’ve know more dying from other things than smoking. They try and make you think they care and then tell you they hope you die.
I wouldn’t even say that I hope all hateful people die.Actually they have insurance because most of the good die.
People say WHY. It’s because wherever they’re going, they don’t want them there either.
I get all wound up about them caring for our safety.
I know the safety belt is a big issue.. $200.00 fine without one is why I wear mine. But I don’t think they are worried about our safety, that’s BS.
When they put them on the old raggedy scool buses our kids ride in, then I MIGHT believe it.
See, JB, you got me started.
Let’s go have a dink and a cigarette. LMAO!

lolipop: all the smokers in my state have to sit outside in a cage like animals in a zoo. lol, so most of them do not go out. lol I am sure that cage would be full if the legalize pot. lol they will be acting like monkeys in a zoo. hahahahhaha I personally think it is time to legalize pot. We could clear up a lot of prison space and create a heck of a tax raquet. My only fear is that then the kids would move on to heroin or cocaine, but my own friends over the years never did. They still just smoke pot. lol so i have to wonder.

You are so very much into bondage, you like to trap people into your way of thinging. If you had so much to offer, why do YOU need to go on to other websites? Like “md”, Bull”, Hal’s. why,? You are one needy Kamper!

me??
You’re funny.. Into bondage? Don’t really get the analogy but anyway I’ll gladly answer your question and frankly, I don’t have anything to prove to anyone. I already proved I RIGHT and they were wrong. Not that it’s that big of a deal.. Anyone who had any sense would have known the State of FL didn’t have any evidence to prove 1st Deg Murder.

Anyway.. I found an article by MD when I thought he was cool..only to find out later he was an aashole.

As for BullStopper, I went to his site to address an entire ARTICLE about me titled “Does the JBMission stand for Jose Baez?”

I went to Hal’s to address a rumor coming from there claiming that me and the people who post here were all paid by Casey Anthony’s defense team.
Need I say more? I hope that explains WHY. And of course there’s the OTHER reason.. It’s because I CAN, Not to mention the fact that If someone accuses me of something that I’m not, I want to confront my accusers and ask them to PROVE it! tick tock… It never happened because it’s not true.
To say I’m Jose Baez is a no-brainer..lol…Good luck with that RIDICULOUS accusation…Yet this MORON Bullstopper wrote an entire article ALL ABOUT ME!! hahahahaha…Can you imagine that? So yes this is why… Any more questions? Come back anytime..
What IDIOTS!!

I read the probation report on Casey Anthony – as usual Liar Baez stated she was getting counciling and also taking online courses. It would be very foolish to lie on a probation report and surprise! surprise! no therapy and no online courses but yes drinking “moderately” This is typical of a sociopath. She doesnt think she needs anything except to be able to go out and hunt again.
If anything can persuade you that Casey Anthony is a first class sociopath its that probabtion report. I dont know of any normal person who wouldnt ask at least for therapy to help to sort out what happened to them over these past years and to deal with the death of her child. The fact that she doesnt need or want therapy is typical of how sociopaths think. I await the next one to see if Baez can persuade her to go through the motions at least so that her next probation report will show that she is at least trying. It will be a farce of course, because Casey Anthony doesnt need anyone to tell her anything she thinks she is fine the way she is.

artgirl,
I was just wondering when you and everyone that are hell bent on everything the media says is the gospel truth are going to start your therapy.
I think you all need it more than Casey.
You really don’t know much about what kind of therapy it should be. Whatever Casey is doing to help her through this nightmare is really none of your business.

Hey Me,
Do you describe yourself as a needy person?
If not, don’t accuse someone of doing what you’re doing. REALLY!!!!
First of all JB doesn’t try and make someone think like her.
You must have her confused with someone else.
So you’re confused and needy!

i meet this lady years ago who lost her daughter due to very unfortunate circumstances, her being a teenager and thinking nothing could harm her or her friends she took it a bit too far while driving and crashed and well, sadly meet her fate which sent her home to her maker. a very sad and tragic event that destroyed that mother who then had to bury her teenage daughter. this mother lived for her child.

everyone kept telling this woman what she needed to do, therapy, medicines, etc…

but you know what brought her the most comfort and eased her pain? cleaning, keeping her daughters memorial decorated and pretty and also putting a blanket next to her grave and having chats with her daughter, of course only in spirit of it being her that was actually there, she’s was fully aware that her daughter was not really there, but that is what made her able to cope with the lose of her child.

now some called her crazy, some called her a person who wasn’t coping, because they set up these standards and also pushed their thought of how the proper way to deal with the loss of a child… of course many of these folks had NO IDEA of what it felt like to loose a child… so who is right and who is wrong?

everyone deals with loss in their own way, and it seems very unfair and uncaring of a person to ever tell another individual how to grieve for the loss of their loved one…

why does anyone have the right to tell anyone how they should behave or cry or do anything after they have lost their child?

The case of the woman who lost her child in an car accident is not at all the same as Casey Anthonys circumstances. Everyone from her mother and both Baez and Mason said she needed
professional help and they said it publicly many times. She was a very young mother and a very immature person to begin with. The amount and extent of her lies while Caylee was alive is an indication that this was not normal behavior. Also since most of you believe that George molested her and Baez made his whole defense of her not reporting Caylee drowned as based upon Caseys mental instability, why wouldnt she need some help? In fact a lot of help. You cant have it both ways, if you believe she acted as she did – going to rent movies several hours after
her little girl died and then screwing her boyfriend in bed all day long the next – because of some trauma in her past life at home, then she certainly does need help! But of course, none of the BS is true and she doesnt need or want help because she is a classic sociopath who has gotten away with murder and doesnt give a damn about anything or anyone but herself. I cannot believe how deluded you all are about this woman. Its so obvious what she is – she is practically throwing in your faces. Lets wait for the next months report to see whats on there.

that would make sense if you did believe that those were how the events unfolded

but not everyone believes in the molestation charge and not everyone believes that she went and partied/had sex/ watched movies and just went buck wild right after she murdered her daughter

but what everyone should understand is, no matter who suggests therapy or whatever to “cope” with your issues, only YOU know what is best for yourself and what helps you cope with loss, trauma, etc…

or are you one of those folks that listen and do when other people tell you what you need and how to live your life based on what they think you should do?

just because others think they know you and what is best for you doesn’t mean they are right… in fact history teaches us that those exact folks that push their ideals and thoughts and actions onto others in the name of their best interest, were indeed wrong

and sorry to have to add this, but since you mention her mother, have you heard her speak and seen her behavior? why would she even have any right to suggest anything to anyone in the way of mental health?

amanda knox was almost put in jail for the rest of her life due to folks in that town judging her based on her very strange and unusual behavior and yes, even lies, thank goodness the truth prevailed, but had those folks had their way, she would be in jail FOREVER

Thanks Spidergirl,
Wecan’t even begin to tell someone how they should grieve. Myself I go into “denial” If feel it’s a bubble around me protecting me. Some people may think that’s crazy. BUT, going in and talking with someone is not my bag.
One therapy is to go out at night alone and look at the stars. WE’ve all had some tragedy in our lives. I know some worse than others.
I can’t imagine for instance not having a my support of my parents through my life.
Casey seemed like a child in the way to the Anthony’s. I had a cousin, her parents were the same way.
THe irony of all off this is the ones coming out of the woodworks, thinking what they hear about how terrible Casey is were probably not a prority in their parents lives either. Casey was a wonderful mother and Spider, you’re right her healing actually will never heal. They say time heals. I say it gets worse, it’s the denial that helps you through it and they do come at times. Reality is very painful. There is no rehab for that. THey say people can’t make you happy, you have to yourself. Knowing that people will always hate you, that is the part that’s hurtful. And WHY? Does it make them feel good to hate Caylees mom? How is that normal? To me, it isn’t. They think they’re loving Caylee more? HELL NO THEY AREN’T!!

There’s something wrong with these people Spider!
You’re right, they don’t even know Casey or really anything about her.
It’s much easier for them to believe what they hear from all of the media and talk about lying…. OMG, when are they going to start their therapy? OR better yet, they should be fired!

Hello, I hope everybody is having a lovely Sunday. So far it’s been great. The Saints beat the Carolina Panthers which makes it especially delightful at my house. 😀

Hi Artgal16,
I haven’t seen you since the verdict..how are you?
I’m always taken aback when I read comments such as yours falsely claiming Casey is a sociopath when there is nothing to back it up. Again, no evidence and when I say evidence I mean something viable such a report written by a behavioral scientist who actually interviewed Casey not just opinions of bloggers. I don’t think reading a few articles on a subject would make anyone an expert.

You claim I’m deluded, I say the same thing about you. You’re deluded because to this date there has never been a complete psychological evaluation released to the media about Casey except for this.
The only doctor that I’m aware of is Gainesville forensic psychologist Harry Krop who visited Casey Anthony in jail about half a dozen times and interviewed her at length.

Krop said he tested Casey’s IQ, which resulted in a score of 107 — average intelligence.
“She’s smarter than 70 percent of the population,” he said.
Despite three years of television pundits calling Anthony a psychopath, a sociopath and a pathological liar, among other things, Krop said none of those things are true.

I implore you to read this 7 page article. I’m sure you’ll find it interesting. Thanks for stopping in Artgal16.
**oops, I forgot to add, Dr Krop said she has signs of PTSD. Now that might account for some of KC’s odd behavior. I’m not a psychologist so I “don’t” know.

Maybe Casey checked she has not “attended”, as in went to a place…to call herself getting mental health services…maybe if she was asked were she “receiving: mental health services…she might have a diff answer..I don’t know…I’m just making a wag…guess time will tell 🙂

Artgal16,
I want to add.. In a way, I can understand why Casey lied to G & C.
IMO, Casey lied to her family to benefit Caylee. If you think about how Caylee had a beautiful life, she had EVERYTHING a 2 yo could ever want. She had 3 people in that household who adored her, paid attention to her.. Casey didn’t want to jeopardize this. Obviously living with G & C was beneficial to Casey too but would it have been better for Caylee to lose it all and be forced out to live with a destitute mother in a homeless shelter?
Sure Casey had a few options, she could have been diligent and went to work at a fast food restaurant but what about the schedule? How many hours a week could Casey work? Would Cindy and George been able to babysit any hour of the day?
I know in theory, it seems easy but I think there was a lot of other discord in the A’s home. With George on Casey’s butt and Cindy trying to please him, Casey wasn’t able to do all that Cindy wanted. From what I’ve read, Cindy wanted Casey to go to school and work and take care of Caylee. I’m not sure Casey had the confidence or life skills to do all of this. Instead Casey continued to do what was working out for Caylee at the time.
Lie, lie, lie.
We all know that mothers will lie, steal and do whatever when it comes to what’s best for their children. At the time in question, it was all working out well for Caylee and Casey.

From what I’ve learned thru docs, GA had recently returned home, he wasn’t happy with Cindy supporting Casey and Caylee. He was being pressured to get a job as a security guard to bring money into the home & peace in the family so I’m sure George resented Casey. While he was away Casey had Cindy wrapped around her little finger. The last thing Cindy wanted was Casey to leave with Caylee.
This is a common situation when a daughter has a baby out of wedlock with the biological father no where in site. Casey probably lied when she claimed Caylee’s bio-dad was killed in a car accident just to keep G & C off of her back. For whatever reason, Casey does not want anyone to know the name of Caylee’s biological father.
I don’t believe for a minute George wasn’t annoyed about that! And I’m sure he was lying when he said that he was okay with the fact that Caylee’s dad wasn’t around to pay child support. Any normal dad would be livid about this.
So yes, I think Casey was lying her butt off just to keep the peace. Casey doesn’t appear to me to be a strong person so I can’t imagine Casey standing up to Cindy and George? From the way he handled those protestors, he may have been violent.
Wow…Think about C & G and those violent protestors?? Hmm…I can be a bobcat but I’m not sure if I would have confronted that mob they way that they did. That takes some balls if you ask me.
All I’m saying is Casey may have had good reason to lie. As usual, JMO.

JB,
What makes these professors believe Casey needs mental help. I’ve seen Casey and I’ve seen these that hate her and it looks like Casey is the stable one.
Did you notice how calm Casey was when she called the police because she said it was fixing to get ugly outside?
That’s when George and Cindy were on a tirade outside with the protestors.
I wouldn’t want them outside either, but George and Cindy could have called the police.
I do believe that they were in love with the cameras, still are.

@Spidey,
I totally agree that others don’t always know what’s best for you. I think Casey was really good at putting up a front. Look how she was always so polite with everyone in the jail? It seems she wanted to be appropriate at all times.. Now that might be something she should work on. You can’t always please everybody.. Sometimes you have to just show your true feelings.
LOL…But here I am doing the same thing as everyone else…lol I don’t know for a fact what she needs, if Casey wants help, I guess she’ll ask for it.
As for Amanda Knox, I think I saw her doing cart wheels in the hallway of the police station when LE wanted to question her. She was another one who acted inappropriately which landed her in prison.

@ lolypop,
I’m not sure if there’s something wrong with the one’s who think Casey got away with murder. I’m sure there are people who only had time to watch television to hear the news. If I hadn’t the time to look into this case deeper, I probably would have thought this girl was guilty as sin too.
I agree, the circumstances were overwhelming but it was the other stuff that made me doubt she was guilty. The case was just too incriminating to be true and then you the way Caylee’s body was found??? It looked like one big cover-up to me.
When I talk to my friends & family members about this case and tell them the hinky things that happened, they all raise an eyebrow. It’s makes them wonder. I think that’s what happened to the jury too. When they heard the “other” stuff, it’s reasonable doubt.
The people I know who think the jury got it wrong don’t wish Casey dead. They just believe there wasn’t enough proof. Some of them think Florida over indicted her.
Lolypop, sometimes I think Casey was the sanest person in that house. IMO, the A’s acted like maniacs. You can tell C&G just don’t know how to act in a crisis..And YES, they loved the cameras like most phoneys do. IMO

JB,
I disagree!! : )
I think something is wrong with them. They were so upset and like you said some watched it all and some couldn’t, even then some that watched it all, had their mind made up and nothing was going to change it.
If they were on the jury, they would have seen it different, but they want to hate the jury too, instead.
There’s something wrong with that. You may disagree with the jury or you may agree, but if you let the verdict make you hate Casey the rest of your life, then you may need help.
Casey was aquitted, but I doubt she will ever be free and that’s unthinkable.
I know a lot that thought she was guilty at midtrial started having doubts, some didn’t. I think those that want harm to Casey and the jury, may need serious help.
After the trial, I think it would be hard to trust anyone if you were Casey. It would be hard for me.
Good for the Saints!! : )

JB,
I just wanted to add the people around me have forgotten about the trial and they never said anything about the jury’s decision.
It’s just the sensationalism of people on TV, that they don’t watch, like all of HLN.
Plus the internet is the worst and they aren’t into that.
So it should calm down. Hopefully, because that’s not what this country is about.

I think you can make every excuse in the world for Casey but your explanation about her lying is just competely out of left field! Ive lived with a sociopath and you dont have to be a psychologist to know the hallmarks of it. Casey is a classic case – she lies, she steals, she uses people, her friends her parents, her grandparents and can easily discard them. All that stuff you wrote about how she lied so Caylee could have a better life is completely without foundation. She lied so she could do what she damn well pleased! Get free room and board, and babysitting services most of the time because she lied about working! She stole from her aged grandparents to pay her phone bills! Yes,Im sure in your eyes shes a LOVELY girl!. Sorry but I know the difference and if ever there was a scam artist she was one. Even her parents agree with this now. Shes just going to go on doing what she always did, which is free-load off the people she is living with now without making one attempt to better herself in anyway. She doesnt care what other people think shes going to go on doing exactly as she pleases as long as she can get away with it – which probably will be for a very long time. Sociopaths get “better” as they age, they say, its not because they have faced up to their problems, its because when they get older they cant scam people as easily and they run out of steam. You will hear more about Ms. Casey Anthony in the future and it wont be good.

JB,
I agree with your thoughts on Casey wanting the best for Caylee.
The reason is this all happened after Caylee was born, didn’t it?
I guess some people can’t get that you do some things after
birth that you wouldn’t have
done before.

Well thank you Artgal16 for your heart felt comment.
You said you lived with a sociopath and know the signs. With that said, I’m sure there’s nothing I could say or do to change your mind about Casey. Obviously you were hurt by this person. I’m sorry that you lived thru this.
I gave you an article to read coming from the only psychologist who interviewed Anthony. You didn’t address the article, so I’m not even sure you read it. Kinda of sad in a way. It shows that you’re not willing to discuss the facts or bend in anyway. That’s fine. We can just agree to disagree and as you said, time will tell. No need in wasting anymore time discussing Casey.
My opinion of Casey is just that, an opinion, just like yours. We’ll just have to wait and see. Right.
Have a nice day!

artgal16, so does that mean that CA and GA are sociopaths also? because this lady and man said that her daughter was not pregnant to the world and her family even though her belly stuck out like a pregnant one… after three, i know, trust me that last month is a very HARD one to hide that belly… she pushed it under the rug to sort of do the denial thing, and that was NOT just about the pregnancy, it was about many things that would fall under the category placing a person in the realm of being a sociopath.

she is just doing what she learned from her mother and father, and if you try and tell me that they were straight arrows and that she didn’t learn all that she does from them, well, then you have been studying a very different CA and GA then the rest of us have. and really that is just okay too, we all see things in our own eyes the way we see them, and that is okay… everyone has a right to have their own opinions and views on things in life… it is all good 🙂

but i do have to say one thing, if you are going to have a conversation with folks, it does help when you try and see what that other person you are conversing with and that hey have documentation that you might consider reviewing, to see if maybe, just maybe there might be some validity to what that person is saying… so i agree with JB in that, there is nothing anyone can show you to make you see with your very own two eyes how there might be another side to what you think you know about details on the case… you are dead set in what you have grown to know as your truth to what Casey is. but that is okay, we are a world made up a variety of types of folks and not everyone is going to agree with one another, and i can respect that you feel this way because that is just how you see things…

but in the suggestion that JB has made above, if you see that it is a moot subject, just agree to disagree and move on to the next subject.

so artgal16 what are your thoughts on this bully issue that JB wrote about and that we were discussing in the newer post? pretty scary of a thing to happen, having a teen i see this daily, and sadly, no part of the world is immune to it… looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this also…