Your Willful Ignorance is Killing People

The Frisky Fairy Rants

EDIT: I will no longer be replying to comments. Provided they are not death threats, rape threats, or threats against me or mine I will still approve them through. However, I have better things to do. Like my partners. Xoxo

You know… I’ve got a pretty solid soapbox here. Because of that, I get to talk about issues that I feel really strongly about. Tonight, I’m going to talk about issues that I feel really fucking strongly about. Maybe it’s because I just saw Mad Max: Fury Road and Imperator Furiosa is basically everything I want to be as a person. Maybe it’s because I am so fucking tired of people using bullshit science to explain why they’re okay with killing people.

I don’t know, and I don’t fucking care.

Tim Minchin said it best:

My diplomacy dike groans
And the arsehole held back by its stones
Can be held back no more -Storm by Tim Minchin

Today, I logged into Facebook to find the biggest pile of bullshit I’ve seen on my feed in a long time. Typically, I curate my Facebook feed because it’s already too fucking easy for me to find things I hate online. Seriously, there are a lot of assholes that exist. SHOCKING. I like having a bastion of civility considering all the fucking shitboxes I deal with every other day.

So then I see this fucking gem:

Someone hand me my PSL, because I literally cannot even right now.

Let us talk for just a second about credentials. I have a care team, because I’m a cancer survivor. Here is my care team and their credentials. This doesn’t even take into account the number of nurses and other staff on the care teams that did their fucking best through my illness. Every single person on this care team has straight up told me to get vaccinated to protect my sad, lonely, remaining lung.

Osteopathy is a type of alternative medicine that emphasizes the physical manipulation of the body’s muscle tissue and bones.

So basically, Dr. Sherri Tenpenny isn’t a real fucking Doctor. She isn’t a licensed healthcare professional, and she even says as much on her site:

The entire contents of this website are based upon the opinions of Dr. Sherri Tenpenny unless otherwise noted. The information on this website is not intended to replace a one-on-one relationship with a qualified health care professional and is not intended as medical advice. It is intended as a sharing of knowledge and information from the research and experience of Dr. Sherri Tenpenny. You are encouraged to make decisions about your health and the health care of your family based upon your personal research and in partnership with a qualified health care professional.

So wait, let me get this straight… you’re going to take the advice of a woman who legitimately says that she is NOT A FUCKING HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONAL rather than the advice of physicians who have studied for YEARS, and literally take an oath to care for their patients? Really?

So when I called the people on this bullshit, I received this response:

Oh I have plenty of things to say on that, sweetheart.

“Everyone should have their own choice about what goes into their, and their child’s body and no one else should have a say on that.”
Yes. Like arsenic. Or maybe you’re a parent who wants to put your dick inside of your child. OH WAIT, THAT’S CHILD ABUSE. YOU’RE LITERALLY HARMING YOUR CHILD. There are fucking laws against that shit. You want to know what else you’re doing? Subjecting your child to diseases that could literally kill them. For heaven’s sake, someone please tell these assholes that this is straight up child abuse. You’re saying you would rather your child die than have autism or a (n often) treatable side effect. Wow. Classy folks.

Beyond that, you’re saying that your individual right to blatantly disregard the science out there that says that vaccines are the best way to prevent these diseases is more important than the lives of children who are unable to have vaccines because they’re ill already, or those who have very weak immune systems and could be put into a life threatening position if exposed to these diseases. The worst part? You wouldn’t even know. You wouldn’t even know that someone you know could die because of your shitty decisions. Why? Because who the fuck is going to tell you all about their weak immune system, or their terrific fear of getting pneumonia in the only lung they have left (besides me, obviously). Not many people. Because those of us who are/were sick just want to feel fucking normal and healthy.

Which leads me to the most frustrating, obnoxious, thing I saw today. Take a gander at this shit:

Bullshit. So much bullshit that I need a pitchfork to move it.

For those of you who can’t read it or, like me, needed a double take. Let me tell you what this person’s taped face says.

Be aware. They know the cure. Cancer is a 95.5 billion dollar industry. you don’t really believe they want to stop that cashflow do you? Wake up.

This is one of those times when I have a dog in this fight. I have talked about my cancer stuff, and I’ll likely do so again going into much greater detail, but even three years out, my story and my feelings surrounding it are still very raw.

First off, how fucked do you have to be as a person to believe that people are inherently that evil that they would hide a cure that could have saved an estimated 539,430 people from death in 2015 and could prevent this frustrating and demeaning illness from affecting the estimated 1,658,370 new cases in 2015? Even beyond that, think of the number of people that would go into researching a medication like this, and safeguarding the chemical recipes. Think of how many people would have to know that something like this exists. Do you really think that none of them would’ve shared this tiny tidbit of “oh I cured cancer” with someone who has a fucking shred of empathy for human beings? Don’t you think SOMEONE would’ve remembered that they’re supposed to be healers? Don’t you think SOMEONE would’ve fucking reported this by now? The only places that talk about this and treat it with any detail are conspiracy theorists, and alternative medicine advocates. That doesn’t really give credence to the theory.

If you’re a person who truly believes that a large group of people could be that evil, maybe someone should’ve fucking hugged you as a child.

With respect to all of this, cancers take on different forms. There are a number of ways to treat cancer, and each of them is individualized to the patient. Even patients with the same cancer in the same space might need different medications because of how different our bodies are. It’s like using a hammer to fix everything you might need a tool for. It doesn’t work. Sometimes you need a screwdriver, or a wrench, or a drill to get it right. Use the right tool for the job folks, my dad taught me that. There is never going to be one “cure-all” for cancer, because cancer (like humans, and viruses and literally everything else on the planet) evolves. Anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to sell you something.

Finally, we need to talk about how your “natural medicine” route is killing people. My cancer isn’t going to be cured by saying Om a bunch of times, by doing yoga, or by eating a vegan diet. It’s not. How was my cancer cured? That care team up earlier in this post took out my fucking lung. When you’re spreading this message of “eat better and work out and your cancer will be cured with some fish oil and a bit of sunshine”, you’re directly influencing people away from treatments that could ACTIVELY help them. Your disregard for the fucking science behind cancer treatment and disease prevention is killing people.

If you spread this sort of nonsense, you should be ashamed of yourself, because you have blood on your hands.

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Also, the supposed link between autism and vaccines was bad science in the first place; came from a “doctor” who wasn’t anti-vaccine, but wanted *his* vaccination methods adopted; and WAS COMPLETELY DEBUNKED!

Actually, did you know Dr. Andrew Wakefield’s study was co-authored by 12 other doctors? Every doctor who dares question vaccine safety gets her/his reputation destroyed to set an example that you don’t mess with the medical mafia.
That said, Dr. Wakefield’s study didn’t even say vaccines cause autism, it said that the measles virus was found in the guts of children with inflammatory bowel disease (non-specific colitis) that often accompanies autism. The gut-brain connection is now a huge area of research.

His research has been replicated.
As reported in the Daily Mail:
” … a team from the Wake Forest University School of Medicine in North Carolina are examining 275 children with regressive autism and bowel disease – and of the 82 tested so far, 70 prove positive for the measles virus … the team’s leader, Dr. Stephen Walker, said: ‘Of the handful of results we have in so far, all are vaccine strain and none are wild measles.

This research shows that in the gastrointestinal tract of a number of children who have been diagnosed with regressive autism, there is evidence of measles virus. What it means is that the study done earlier by Dr. Wakefield and published in 1998 is correct.”

Wake Forest University School of Medicine is listed as one of the top Research Medical Schools by U.S. News & World Report.

I agree with everything you had to say about a cure for cancer. I do have one thing to say that may or may not be easy for you to hear. Some secrets have been kept, big secrets… Not Secrets that everyone who knew about them wanted to keep… Look at everything with an eye on “What If?”. Some “Un Fucking Believable!” Things may just be hiding something true behind it, always do your research… I am not talking about alternative medicine or any of the popular conspiracy theories…. You are doing valuable work here… keep it up.

Dr. Sherri Tenpenny actually is a healthcare provider. She’s a doctor of osteopathy. They are recognized as physicians in most states and often do their residencies along side MDs.

However, that doesn’t mean that I agree with her. In fact, I’m very much against what she says on vaccines (and it makes me wonder if she knows how to understand the studies that are in journal articles.) I put her in the same category that I put other doctors who say that they are against vaccines or feel that diet alone can cure cancers. (Some cancers may be prevented by diet if it is started early enough, but once it starts, you need the oncology team!) And in the same category as the woman who coincidentally has my name who has an anti-vaccine website but I can’t find any information that she is a physician of any type. (She calls herself an “educator and researcher.”)

I think what scares me the most about people like Dr. Sherri Tenpenny is that what they say may take us back to the old days. In medical school, I took care of children who had complications of measles (most of whom died even though they were in a state of the art children’s medical center. We had the vaccine, but sometimes it was spotty in whether someone actually got it.) I cried with the mothers who lost their children to H. flu meningitis, epiglottis and orbital cellulitis that we couldn’t save when I was in residency or when I was first in pediatric practice (and cared for the brain damaged or hearing impaired ones who survived.) And I also rejoiced when the vaccine for it made it so that we could close our hospital’s pediatrics ward because there were so few cases of H. flu that had to be hospitalized anymore (especially considering how difficult it was to treat them because of antibiotic resistance. And it seemed like it was the most common bacterial illness that we hospitalized. We had better luck with our N. meningitides patients and saw far fewer of them!) I saw so many cases of chickenpox complications in the 7 years before the vaccine came out while I was in practice that I was exceedingly grateful when the vaccine came out because it meant that I hopefully would never see another case of chickenpox keratitis, chickenpox pneumonia, chickenpox hepatitis or chickenpox induced aplastic anemia. And I was also glad that none of my patients had died of it, unlike too many of my colleagues. And I know how grateful my mentors were who had seen polio, tetanus, and diphtheria.

I am old enough to have had measles, mumps, rubella and missed the last great polio epidemic by a couple of years so I had friends who limped or used braces because of that.
I knew people who DIED because of the measles. I had damage to my vision from the measles.
Whenever I hear someone whinging on about that autism thing especially, I get FURIOUS. I have friends who have autism. Guess what! They are HUMAN BEINGS. UNIQUE, CREATIVE, WONDERFUL people. Skipping a vaccine because you would rather your child be DEAD than autistic is not only INCREDIBLY stupid, it’s incredibly cruel because autism is NOT worse than death. Or blindness. Or deafness. It just IS. There are not degrees of terrible to be avoided by not vaccinating.

And don’t get me started on eating bushes to cure cancer. I am having more suspicious moles removed on Monday and have my fingers crossed that it isn’t cancer again and no, it is not caused or cured by magic or bushes or magic bushes.

Let me tell you why that doctor is a dumb a$$hole. When they calculate the efficacy of a vaccine, they take into account the transmission rate, but they also take into account the percentage of people who don’t become immune despite being vaccinated. Like me, I was not protected against rubella. They tested me for the presence of antibodies when I was pregnant and I had no antibodies to rubella (I am protected against measles and mumps, so those took). What they don’t take into account is idiots not vaccinating. Also, boosters are to boost your immunity, because you can lose it. And most children are not fully vaccinated until they are 4-6 years old.

You’re right. I was filled with rage and I did lash out at others. I’m sorry about that. In retrospect, my language was a bit much, however this is my blog to blow off as much steam as I need to. I don’t write for other people, I write for myself.

First, I’m so sorry to learn of your battle with cancer. I wish you good health for many years to come. Second, I am personally vaccine injured, having developed multiple sclerosis after receiving the hepatitis b vaccine, during podiatry school. I too had a team of doctors, trying to understand why I was losing vision rapidly, limping around, and off balance. My youngest son developed a neurological condition following the tetanus, diphtheria, and pertussis shot. So I have a huge concern regarding vaccine safety. Third, when I was little my parents were told that vaccines are like getting the disease, and were led to believe that they would last a lifetime. When I was working as a pharmacist in CT, at age 22 yrs, all staff were required to have measles titers drawn. We all had been vaccinated for measles, yet many had no immunity to measles. This calls into question the efficacy of the product. Fourth, I later found out that the hepatitis b vaccine contains strands of DNA Polymerase, a contaminant. When people purchase a vaccine they don’t expect the product to be contaminated. Are you aware of what risks there are from exogenous DNA Polymerase introduced into the body? I’m not. But I can tell you that one of the risks may be MS. Fifth, the country France stopped their hepatitis b vaccine program because of the high number of people developing MS after injection. If an entire country has concerns like this, why isn’t there a black box warning on the package insert? Or a product recall? Sixth, the flu shot is associated with VAERD, Vaccine associated enhanced respiratory disease, meaning if one gets a viral infection after the flu shot, that person will suffer severe respiratory disease, and possibly death. This effect isn’t even considered a vaccine injury so there is not even a way to apply for compensation if a mom loses her baby from this indirect effect of the flu shot. Personally, I had a patient, while practicing podiatry, who had a flu shot and developed permanent paralysis in a leg. He went on to amputation of his paralyzed leg. He did regret getting the flu shot. He was unable to work after that vaccine. Seventh, I don’t expect you to understand or care why some of us choose to avoid vaccines. I would have loved to be a surgeon, afterall I studied for 24 years to become one, but I have brain damage from a vaccine that took away most vision in my left eye and left me partially paralyzed in legs and left hand. Those of us suffering from vaccine injury want what you want, to be healthy, to live life, and to prevent more injury. We are not willing to trade our healthy neurological system to prevent some germ from hurting us, a germ that we may never encounter, by using a vaccine that is unsafe, ineffective, and contaminated.

I am very sorry about your vaccine injury, I am sorry that they have so negatively affected you. I see the science to back vaccines, and I also know that the chances of vaccine injury are quite low. My chances of dying from surgery were 10%, and I still took that chance. Again, if I get the studies and science to show that I’m wrong. I will, but until then, my opinion still stands. You are welcome to yours.

It was a CHALLANGE to read through this article and take you seriously 1 with all the profanities and 2 with all your health issues.

I’m sorry you have suffered through cancer but unfortunately these days it is becoming more and more common . This does not make you an expert on vaccines or somehow more important than others. You made a choice for your care and some take another route . My mother is currently diagnosed stage 4 cancer BUT opted not to poison herself and wanted a chance to cure it naturally . And guess what ALL her rumors are shrinking and some have disappeared in just the span of 3 months. The Drs could not believe it and said their machine must be faulty and sent her somewhere else to get rechecked , but it was the same . She has been successfully treating herself . And not by walking around “oming” . Science has made unbelievable bounds in just this centurary but it’s as they call it a “practice” . Drs are NOT gods and shouldn’t be viewed in that fashion.

When it comes to the topic of vaccines Drs to not take a class on this or study them in any great length . And most Drs can not even tell you the ingredients . You can choose what you want to believe but you can’t ignore the science. Yes in theory vaccines are a good idea , but the way they are made is barbaric . If you take each individual ingredient by itself and study the effects on the body you will see why many people choose NOT to vaccinate. In my case I have a gene mutation MTHFR . This impairs a lot of functions but a major one is detox . With the murcury and aluminum derivatives in vaccines it can seriously harm people with this mutation . Heavy metal poisoning also mimics the symptoms of Autism . Now take a look at autistic children 98% of them have some variation of the mthfr mutation . Now unfortunately since this mutation discovery is still considered “new” there is no medical exemptions allowed . Should I knowingly poison myself or my kids for the sake of others ? Should I “take one for the team” , no that’s asinine . I will not be told how to treat my child . We are born with immune systems for a reason . Even the measles has its benifits against getting cancer but one can not obtain these benifits through the vaccine. The measles where once a common childhood illness that only severely impaired / malnourished children died from but was easily treatable .
I read you ignorant comment comparing the people who want to have control over their child’s health to a rapist . Come on you can’t be that dumb so I’ll just assume you said that for shock factor because you can’t really compare apples and shit . A more reasonable comparison about parents choosing what goes in their body is if they choose to feed their child a diet full of processed food and diet sodas making their child obese for life with many medical issues or choosing an organic diet to give their child the best possible chance at a healthy life. Yes parents ahould have the right to choose what goes into their children including vaccines . Studies in Germany have shown in vac vs non vac kids the vac kids had about quadruple the rate of asthma and allergies and had suffered far more childhood sicknesses and infections than the non vac kids .

Again I’d like to reiterate for you Drs are NOT gods , they once promoted cigarettes for gods sake ! Science is ever evolving .

As an adult who was not vaccinated as a child I can securely say that people do not need vaccines to survive . I have traveled all over the world with no issues . Even as a child growing up I didn’t miss a day of school for illnesses . When I did get sick it was short lived . My father chose not to vaccinate us , he was a scientist and engineer for the government . He was not some Jenny McCartney follower . He was a well educated man . Many people who do not vac are well educated and upper class individuals . People make choices on what they feel is best for their health . I personally do not care if someone vaccinates or not , but do NOT take my right away from me to make that choice. In reality your littler vaccine shedders are the ones getting people sick . Tell me since your a cancer survivor you must know that you are not allowed near recently vaccinated people due to the shedding that can spread the disease to you.

1. My blog is my own, and my language is my own. I don’t write for anyone else but myself. If you’re uncomfortable with the language, you don’t have to read or comment. 2. Dr’s are NOT gods. I have never said they were. I agree that science is ever-evolving. 3. My health issues have nothing to do with vaccines, and (short of you looking into my medical files) they are also not your business, nor are they attached to my vaccination record.

Finally, You have EVERY choice not to vaccinate, I can’t take that away (and if you’re on that Vaccine Resistance Movement: VRM Updates & News From The Trenches on Facebook, you know that’s not in my qualifications [Thanks Nina Lise!]) nor do I want to. Teach your children whatever you want. But vaccinate them until they are legal adults and make the conscious decision to no longer have vaccinations. Or don’t, I don’t really care. What I do care about is that diseases that could be prevented (either by vaccine or by quarantine) are often exposed to people who have a weakened immune system.

Sorry but I totally disagree with you just because your points contradict everything I’ve seen now. Don’t get me wrong I grew up with a mother who’s a MD , a good one and I know about doctors and their little secrets a lot more than you do . Don’t be a sheep . Be a thinker . Do your research .
Also I am really sorry that you had to deal with this awful disease . But there are indeed natural cures and I know people that are cancer survivors now for over 20 years without using traditional cancer treatments. The one you trust mostly are the one who will fuck you up.

I *do* use some natural cures. I take medications as little as possible. I use apple cider vinegar to treat UTI’s. I use Red Raspberry Leaf (not pain meds)to heal menstrual cramps. I do a number of things that are not recommended by physicians because they work for me. That being said. If there was a natural cure to my cancer, I would’ve done it IN A HEARTBEAT, as I said in my other post about my cancer. I just wanted a cure. But you can’t bring dead tissue back to life.

First of all, let me say how sorry I am about your health struggles. I hope you are well soon. I want you to know that with all sincerity, you are wrong. It is true that the medical cartel have suppressed many cancer cures in the past and continue to do so. It is also true that a person with a compromised immune system should NEVER be vaccinated, as vaccines damage your immune system. The people who are weak are the last who should be vaccinated. Vaccines are dangerous even for healthy people. It is stated right on the vaccine insert that a child should NEVER be vaccinated while sick. I have researched this subject for over 20 years, and although it’s hard to believe, it’s all true. The medical and drug industries are two of the most corrupt in all of the world, researchers are paid and bought to say what they want them to say. If you do your own research long enough, you will know I speak the truth. I was just as shocked and outraged as you are in your rant when I found out the truth, it took me years to really believe it. Please know, for you, it is even more dangerous to receive vaccines than the average person, even though this is the opposite of what the doctors will tell you. Please learn the truth before you let them poison you any further. Health does not come through a needle or by taking drugs. God bless and good health to you.

I appreciate how polite you’ve been, considering the other folks commenting. I believe in wellness care over relief care, but relief in the temporary, while the wellness is also being taken care of is important. I would like to see your research though. As I’ve said on another comment, if I see the medical source for this, I will change my mind so fast your head will spin. But I am a facts and statistics person, and that is unlikely to chance until I’ve seen a consistent amount of peer reviewed proof.

Actually, there are at least an hundred MDs who after researching now are either more reserved about vaccination, and more informative when implementing it, or have abandoned the paradigm completely, refusing to vaccinate patients. They all have two things in common: upon graduation from medical school they thought vaccines were God’s answer to disease prevention; and after witnessing or being told about a serious reaction following on the heels of a vaccination had the curiosity and integrity to educate beyond their training.

It’s pretty simple, really. It’s historical fact that vaccines can permanently disable, brain damage or kill a kid, with no way known to accurately assess the probability – no way to guarantee, on an individual basis, that such catastrophe won’t result. Any parent aware of this has ample reason to stop vaccinating, were it not for the fear of infectious diseases, but once you research those illnesses you realize that that fear is a baseless industry construct, and all remaining impetus to vaccinate disappears.

Vaccination’s a travesty. It bypasses a river of innate immune reactions designed to prevent vaccine ingredients from entering the bloodstream.

You’ll find listings of compensatory awards to the tune of millions of dollars, for vaccine injuries including, among others, Guillain-Barre, transverse myelitis, epilepsy, cardiac arrest and death – and more – at:

All that’s left is the fear of infectious disease – measles, for instance, which, as clearly demonstrated in the link below, was viewed as benign and no cause for alarm in the 40s, 50s, 60s and 70s in the U.S.:

Are you out of your fucking mind!?!! I lived through measles epidemics and they were NOT seen as benign. You kids think you know what actually happened. I LIVED IT. Yeah, lets bring back polio, diphtheria (now there’s a nasty way to die) rheumatic fever, all those delightful childhood diseases that used to kill and cripple children by the millions.

Yes, occasionally there are side effects. Eat too many cherries and you’ll have side effects. Overall–and remember, I LIVED THROUGH THOSE EPIDEMICS–those diseases are NOT benign.

Infectious disease is not benign, you’re right. I had chicken pox and scarlet fever. I survived them both with no adverse reactions, luckily, and now I have lifelong immunity.

You know what is also not benign? Macrophagic myofasciitis, which is disabling, and is only one of the myriad chronic conditions linked to vaccines.

Studies at the University of Paris have shown that Macrophagic myofasciitis lesions result when the aluminum hydroxide adjuvant from a vaccine remains embedded in the tissue and causes a steady immune reaction.

From orpha.net: “[The disease] generally manifests with myalgias of variable intensity, and is usually associated with generalized weakness and chronic fatigue. At onset, myalgias predominantly affect the limbs, notably the legs, and are often aggravated by exertion. Joint pain, primarily affecting the large peripheral articulations, is noted in 50-60% of cases. Cognitive dysfunction is almost constant and often severe and is characterized by interhemispheric disconnection, memory loss, and impaired executive functions. Depression is frequent. Cutaneous manifestations or digestive tract symptoms are rare. In 19% of cases, MMF is associated with an autoimmune disease (multiple sclerosis, autoimmune necrotizing myopathy, inclusion body myositis, or more rarely dermatomyositis).”

How many vaccines were on the vaccine schedule when you were a child? How many are on the vaccine schedule now? How much aluminum chloride adjuvant do these vaccines contain?

Now how many people do you know who complain of chronic fatigue, joint pain, cognitive dysfunction, depression, & memory loss?

I am a colon cancer survivor. My daughter is a VACCINE INJURY survivor. Her injuries are life long. SHe has Transverse Myelitis all thanks to an adverse reaction to the Hep B and DTaP vaccines. AND YES A HOST OF TRAINED PROFESSIONALS PROVED IT. ALSO PROVEN IN COURT. Autism isn’t the only worry with vaccine injury. My daughter is totally paralyzed and confined to a wheelchair and has been since she was 10 months old. She will be 13 next month. What about the children who die? Do you call those families fools for no longer vaccinating any of their other children. ITS NOT ONE IN A MILLION! IINJURIES ARE SWEPT UNDER THE RUG! OUR VOICES ARE NOT HEARD! When that one child is yours that is permanently injured or worse dies from a vaccine injury, THAT ONE CHILD IS ONE CHILD TO MANY! I would never ask anyone to risk their child ! NEVER ! and it is selfish that you would put it on everyone else to risk their children under the false pretense of your safety. My cancer doctors told me it was dangerous for me to be around newly vaccinated due to shedding . That is a known fact. So I really don’t know where you have gotten your information. Vaccines are not safe, it even says that in the fine print under the severe reactions. These diseases that they call deadly were at one time natural childhood illnesses that parents wanted their children to get and get lifelong immunity. There has not been one measles related death in over 13 years yet there has been well over 100 mmr vaccine related deaths during the same time. Wake up. Read the facts. This isn’t a fad, ITS OUR CHILDRENS LIVES!

First off, as posted in my other post about my cancer (that none of your Vaccine Movement: VRM Updates & News From The Trenches friends read [though they read my bipolar post…soooo there’s that]- and oh yes, I read all your comments, thank you) I had surgery, not chemo. My surgery weakened my immune system, but mostly vaccines I take are to protect my remaining lung.

I am so sorry about your oldest child having Vaccine Injury, I am certain that it is incredibly painful for you. I would not blame you for not vaccinating your other children as they likely have a higher risk of negative reaction to their vaccines. I also hope that for the sake of many others, that when they are ill you keep them quarantined from others who are not able to be vaccinated, or have weakened immune systems, so that they do not cause outbreaks among others.

There have been measles related deaths within the past 13 years See Here. One death from measles is one death too many as well, especially from those who can’t vaccinate because of their health (see pediatric oncology patients, and oncology patients in general). Death all around is hard on everyone. There is no good solution. There will be mortality rates regardless of what medications you do or do not take. Life is fleeting, and instead of spending it arguing on the internet, we should be out living it (like I do between blog posts).

I had a 10% chance of death when my lung was removed. The tissue in my lung was BLACK. But that 10% didn’t stop me from taking the surgery. I would rather have taken the risk than not. Again, if I see the actual science surrounding vaccines being worse that non-vaccines I will change my mind in a heartbeat, but as it stands now, I feel that the risk is lower than the reward.

Finally, Could you do me a favor and let your friends on the facebook feed know that I approved your comment and was polite about it. I know they think that I’m “better off dead”, but I’m not absolutely cruel, I post all comments as long as they aren’t death or rape threats.

You are blissfully ignorant. Why does anyone need to show YOU proof? Why don’t you show us proof of just one and only one study or peer reviewed paper from someone, anyone other that the pharmaceutical company, that shows ANY safety in taking many combo vaccines all at once? Your ignorant rant is just that, IGNORANT! Ohh, and sorry about your cancer, mental health issues, and being overweight. Apparently you didn’t make very good lifestyle choices. Maybe if you ‘ve taken better care of yourself then you might not be in that situation??? How does that sound? Just as ignorant? It’s meant to be.

Wow, that’s the best you can do? Angry, haha, You wish! I find your illogical ideas funny and the only person that truly seems angry is you. I didn’t write a blog all about being pro or anti anything but you felt strong enough about this issue to do so. You apparently need a lot of attention because of your mental health issues so I thought I would be kind enough to accommodate your need. Be well! 🙂

I had 4 feet of my colon removed. Also my children were all vaccinated up until that point. My youngest child had the reaction. I keep my kids home when they are ill. I am a parent that feels an Ill child belongs at home vaccinated or not. Parents feel school is daycare and my kids are exposed to their carelessness often. My children cannot spread diseases they do not have. But yet parents with newly vaccinated children don’t show the same courtesy. When their children are shedding they are out in public putting others at risk yet that is ok?. Your choice of words get you the responses you do. We are not ignorant. We have done our research and sadly my daughter paid with her ability to walk or chance to live a normal life. Like you said risks are everywhere but when there is an avoidable risk you avoid it. You make medical decisions for you and allow parents to choose what’s best for their children. There is no need for name calling or belittling. Can’t we all just agree to disagree? The outbreak of measles that started this war was started by a vaccinated person. A majority of those who had measles where vaccinated proving the vaccines don’t even work yet we risk our children’s life on a hope and a dream. My hopes are they find a way to correct the damage vaccines caused my daughter and that another child doesn’t have to die for what others call the greater good. I don’t know any parent that would be ok losing their child or having a child horribly injured for ANY REASON. I am sorry you had a battle with cancer, many have . Keep up the good fight. As I will keep up the good fight for my children and me. My family knows for a fact vaccines are not safe and ineffective.

Rebecca, so you think it’s acceptable for children to die from a vaccine, but not from Measles? Really!? Children should not have to risk death, seizures, brain damage, immune disorders, neurological disorders,blood disorders, Autism, SIDS, Guilian Barre Disorder and apnea. It would be a good idea for you to read the package inserts of many of the childhood vaccines. I would also point out that the whole vaccine schedule has never been studied for safety. Never! Here is the link to the FDA package insert that lists SIDS, and Autism as adverse reactions.http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM101580.pdf You are wrong and your link nothing that showed there have been measles deaths. There have been no death due to measles since 2003. The most recent death of a woman, died from Pneumonia caused by measles. She was vaccinated and was on immunosuppressive drugs and was not diagnosed until after her death. She didn’t even develop a rash. Here is the article. http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/undetected-measles-led-to-womans-death/

It is true that vaccines carry risk (as transverse myelitis is a known risk). However, it is not true that the diseases they protect against are diseases that were just something to get over. That is something that is new in the minds of parents because they haven’t had to live with those diseases.

Tetanus, diphtheria, H. flu, polio and the like are all diseases that once terrorized parents. Before the vaccines, parents saw their children die of those diseases far more than parents today see children die or be affected by vaccines.

And vaccines not only stop those diseases, but they also prevent other problems. The H. Flu vaccine (HIB) has been shown to also make it so that the child avoided other illnesses. And we know that, unlike the vaccine, measles wild type infections cause the child’s immune system to be suppressed so that they can catch more things, This means that the vaccine prevents those as well.

No illness or vaccine is completely without problems. But vaccines are thousands of times safer than the wild diseases. And unfortunately, it takes having “herd immunity” to truly protect everyone from the wild type diseases because not everyone can be immunized and vaccines don’t have 100% coverage, which is why everyone who *can* be vaccinated should be.

You asked above, and I see nobody has answered you, what vaccine court is. Back in 1986 Congress gave complete immunity to the vaccine manufacturers and doctors for any injury or death that results from their product due to the fact that vaccine manufacturers were threatening to pull out due to too many lawsuits and injuries. Today we have no right to sue a doctor or manufacturer for their faulty product. Today we must petition the vaccine court and that vaccine court decides if compensation will be granted…no judge, no jury, no representation. It isn’t right.

Vaccine courts are for YOUR benefit. Do you think you, as an individual, could sue a corporation and win? The court exists to make it easy for YOU to be compensated… and they will award compensation to just about anyone, regardless of whether the “injury” was shown to be related to vaccination or not.

(also, the manufacturers were trying to pull out because *they don’t make money on vaccines.*)

“Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine (D.O. or DO) is a professional doctoral degree for physicians and surgeons offered by medical schools in the United States. Holders of the D.O. degree have the ability to become licensed as osteopathic physicians who have equivalent rights, privileges, and responsibilities as physicians with a Doctor of Medicine degree (M.D.).[1] D.O. physicians are licensed to practice the full scope of medicine and surgery in 65 countries,[2] including all 50 states in the US, and make up seven percent of the total U.S. physician population. In 2014, there were more than 92,000 osteopathic medical physicians in the United States.[3]”

Rebecca, you seem like a very nice person. People can criticize you for the potty mouth but it doesn’t bother me — I grew up in New York. 🙂

Anyway, yeah, I skimmed through the comments and you just seem like a genuinely nice person. I mean that in the sense that (a) you took the time to read and post people’s comments and (b) you really do seem to be motivated by caring about the health and well-being of others.

However, this is not personal. This is logic. Let’s dissect your arguments. Spock-like.

By arguing that Dr. Sherri Tennpenny isn’t a real doctor, you’re attempting to discredit her and distract readers from Dr. Tennpenny’s argument.

So we’ll disregard that.

2) ““Everyone should have their own choice about what goes into their, and their child’s body and no one else should have a say on that.” Yes. Like arsenic. Or maybe you’re a parent who wants to put your…”

Your logic is seemingly sound here. You are correct that parents should not have the right to poison or rape their children. The government should intervene, yes, I agree.

HOWEVER… should that same government have the right to poison our children? Hmm… no this is where your logic falls down.

Now if you can prove that vaccines are totally safe and do not cause injuries to children. If you can prove that vaccines don’t cause comas and seizures and brain damage and death… if you can prove that vaccines only save children. Like seatbelts. Then yes, that would make logical sense. Let’s make sure all children wear seatbelts and get every vaccine known to humankind.

Except they do cause comas, seizures, brain damage, children who grow up and are still wearing diapers in their 30s. And death. Lots of deaths.

Perhaps you haven’t met those people. The ones who tell these stories. The ones whose babies stopped babbling after the MMR. The ones whose kid used to say I love you and now can’t speak or even make eye contact. The ones whose kids couldn’t stop seizing. The children who never came out of a coma. Or who died.

I know those people. Far too many of them. I’ve watched them bury their children.

So this is where it’s a bit of a grey area.

3) “You’re saying you would rather your child die than have autism or a (n often) treatable side effect.”

And death from measles, according to the World Health Organization, is rare in the United States and developed countries with adequate sanitation and healthcare and nutrition. In fact, on the WHO website, it says:

“In populations with high levels of malnutrition and a lack of adequate health care, up to 10% of measles cases result in death. ”

Whether or not you agree with this article 100%, if you take the time to read it, it does plant the seed that you can’t make the claim that vaccines are SOLELY responsible for the eradication of disease. If you would like to try to make that claim and back it up with evidence, I’d love to see it.

“All children in developing countries diagnosed with measles should receive two doses of vitamin A supplements, given 24 hours apart. This treatment restores low vitamin A levels during measles that occur even in well-nourished children and can help prevent eye damage and blindness. Vitamin A supplements have been shown to reduce the number of deaths from measles by 50%.”

Vitamin A supplements reduce measles deaths by 50%? So if we just increase everyone’s vitamin A, especially in poverty-stricken areas afflicted by malnutrition, wouldn’t that vastly decrease deaths by measles? Again, see Masterjohn’s article: “Did Cod Liver Oil Contribute to the Historical Decline in Measles Mortality and Mortality From Other Infectious Diseases?” (Cod liver oil is one of the best sources of vitamin A)

4) “Beyond that, you’re saying that your individual right to blatantly disregard the science out there that says that vaccines are the best way to prevent these diseases is more important than the lives of children who are unable to have vaccines because they’re ill already, or those who have very weak immune systems and could be put into a life threatening position if exposed to these diseases.”

Science is not fixed. It is not decided. In fact, science is, at its very root, about questions.

One word: Pluto. Want me to expound?

OK, here are a couple…

1) At one time, people believed the Earth was flat. In the days of the Greeks, this was #simplyscience.

2) At one time, people also believed the Sun revolved around the Earth. And then Copernicus came along and published On the Revolutions (De revolutionibus orbium coelestium) , just before his death in 1543. And yeah, pretty much proved that the Earth revolves around the Sun. Which was not #simplyscience at the time. In fact, the Catholic Church which RULED “science” at the time, were burning people at the stake for contradicting them.

I needn’t go on. You get the idea. At one time doctors said smoking was fine. They they said it causes lung cancer.

All this to drive home my point: there is no such thing as #simplyscience. #simplypablum, sure. But science is more complex than that and requires thinking, questioning and bucking the system.

We must step outside of the existing system and take a good hard look at it first — before we can buck it. (Foreshadowing the pharmaceutical-multinational-corporations-and-their-lobbyists-minions-who-totally-rule-this-country.)

I’m sorry, I didn’t read the cancer part of your post… Skimmed it. I don’t agree with people saying that cancer has a cure already. I know there are people working on a cure. But I don’t think it’s solved. Nowhere near. So I guess I agree with you on that although like I said I didn’t read what you wrote.

Thanks, Rebecca for the discussion. I hope you approve my comment. Because discussion is the root of democracy.

Best of luck to you with your health and your plans to go back to school. Sincerely. I wish you health, happiness, and great success.

And I wish for you a profound love of logic. I love logic, ever since I took my first logic course in college… and I hope you will fall in love with it, too.

The Greeks may have been wrong about the Earth being flat (although kudos to Pythagoras, the one Greek in antiquity who spoke up for the sphere concept) but they did pretty much launch logic (yay, Aristotle!).

And that guy, Pythagoras, who pushed the whole earth-as-a-sphere thing? Yeah, well he was right. But you know what? Nobody believed him back then.

And so maybe these anti-vaxxers have a point. Perhaps we should listen to them and dig a little deeper instead of just going with the status quo of #simplyscience.

And I’ll leave you with that instead of going down the rabbit hole of the pharmaceutical-multinational-corporations-and-their-lobbyists-minions-who-totally-rule-this-country.

Oops I just did that. Planted a seed.

To go full circle, here’s another meme: “They tried to bury us. They didn’t know we were seeds.”

Not that autism is the only thing preventing me from vaccinating my son, but it’s on the list. I hope you can get healthy and stay healthy, and I hope that you can open your eyes to the dangers of vaccines. And while you’re at it, if you haven’t already researched it, look up gmo’s and their dangers, too. Here’s a list of over 100 studies linking autism to vaccines. http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.co.uk/2007/06/no-evidence-of-any-link.html?m=1

Regarding your post, vaccines do injure some people, and not others — and you say it yourself: “Even patients with the same cancer in the same space might need different medications because of how different our bodies are.”

Your risk/benefit was 10/90. As difficult as it is to face a surgery like that, I assume it was an easy decision. We are in the process of creating a policy where we will all (children and adults) have to ignore our own personal risk/benefit ratios, and vaccinate those of us who are at higher risk of injury or death from vaccines, due to differences in our genetics.

Right now the legislation is focused on children. People who know that their risk of injury or death is high are simply fighting for their children’s lives.

I second this. I experienced the same symptoms as Eric Gladen did in Trace Amounts as a result of vaccination, only it took me six years to figure out what was going on and another five years to recover.

If vaccines are safe, please explain why there’s a National vaccine injury compensation program ? This blog must be a joke , it’s gotta be a joke. There’s no way I would ever take advice from a person with such poor health. I’m 30 years old uncaviccinated, very healthy, 125 lbs and I don’t suffer from any kind of illnesses (thank god) and it has nothing to do with yoga, non of that stupid stuff listed, it’s got to do with been conscious about myself. Knowing what I’m putting in my body and to finish, why do I see a lot of people sorry for her cancer? Does it look like she’s a person who takes care of herself? Lung cancer, just curious. Do you smoke? Because smoking will cause cancer as stated by science and yeah, people still smoke, studies show that vaccines are high risk and why would I do it ? Same reason I eat healthy so I don’t become obese, same reason I don’t smoke or drink. Same reason I don’t take any drugs. Please you keep saying its your blog and you are entitled to your opinion, keep in mind you publish it becomes public and we are entitled to our opinion as well.

No. I don’t smoke. If any of you or your anti-vax brethren bothered to look at the rest of my blog, you’d know I had carcinoid cancer, which is not a cancer that typically affects the lung. Usually just the stomach. I was lucky to have a special case. Go me. Relevant question: why are my issues (my bipolar which is treated, my cancer which is gone, and my fat which has never held me back from anything) suddenly mean I am no longer allowed to have opinions or knowledge about health?

You have been lucky to not be sick at 30, but that time will eventually come to an end. There is no cure for old age. That being said, I’ve been really quite polite in my comments and replies, this was just rude. Were you trying to shame me or just hurt my feelings? I’m not sure how you intended to make me feel, so please healthy person, explain the intent of your comment so that I can make my opinions and decisions based off a random stranger on the internet.

Regardless of my sarcasm (I really couldn’t care less about what you think of me)I appreciate you giving me the views and clicks I want on my blog. Since this blew up my numbers have gone was say up, and I’ve had a lot of people sign up for my emails so… Thank your friends for that.

You don’t think people would willingly subject people to cancer? Then why do companies put well known carcinogens in their products….including baby products??
Your constant barrage of foul language leads me to believe you are bitter and are unhappy. You have heard of organ language haven’t you? With your constant stress level you are compromising your immune system by putting yourself in a sympathetic nervous system mode. Blaming everyone else for your illness will not help you get well. Try looking inside and find out why you became ill in the first place. Mind and body are connected….not seperate.

Interestingly enough, I’m neither bitter nor unhappy. I’m acutally quite happy overall. My blog is a place for me to release stress and relax. It’s a healthy outlet for emotions that if I did not express would fester and become toxic inside me. I do believe in the concept of whole health. Everything we do affects the whole. However, that isn’t why I got cancer. I got cancer because it was bad luck.

Wow, you got a lot of really rabid anti-vaxxers. It’s a shame people feel it’s their right to put others (like you, and myself) at risk for such poorly-researched reasons. Thank you for putting yourself out there and telling your story.

So Dr. Tenpenny seems like a quack trying to make a buck, but it breaks my heart to read that kind of slander leveled at osteopathic physicians. You just insulted some of the most caring, humanizing, meticulous doctors out there because of one woman who chose to describe the profession exclusively in terms of the OMM technique taught in DO school. Most DOs and MDs are going to tell you to vaccinate, and if they tell you to do yoga or something it will be palliative care, not a cure. If a MD or DO does try to sell yoga, diet, vitamins, herbs, etc. as disease cures, they drank the Homeopathic Kool-Aid (surprise, it’s water!) and you need to run. I agree that there is a disturbing trend toward “woo-woo” treatments and salesmanship in healthcare, but it’s hard for you to make that argument well by attacking science-based practitioners whose schooling specifically emphasizes communicating with the patient as a human being and looking at the whole picture.

You’re absolutely right. It wasn’t very polite of me to shred an entire group. Unfortunately, most of the Osteopathic physicians i’ve come into contact with seem to work against conventional medicine and not with it. I could’ve been kinder, but it’s hard to be kind when every experience you’ve had with osteopaths has included them declaring that conventional medicine doesn’t work. I lok forwards to better experiences in the future 🙂

As others have mentioned, a Doctor of Ostepathy (D.O.) is so close to being the same as a M.D. degree that there is no functional difference.

Please disagree with the author of that study for all the other good reasons, but the D.O. degree is not one of them. A D.O. is a Doctor, held to the same standards as all other doctors, and have the same education, rights, privileges and duties.

I’m an MD and have worked with DOs for over 30 years. It’s not the DO part that is problematic, but the individual with the degree, just as there are individual MDs who also ignore studies with thousands of participants over tiny studies with participants chosen to give false information.

I appreciate this! I will be honest when I say that all my interactions with DOs have been negative in that they’re giving off false information. It’s good to know that there aren’t a large number of these problematic folks!

“Osteopathy is a type of alternative medicine that emphasizes the physical manipulation of the body’s muscle tissue and bones.”

Yes – they learn physical manipulation of the body’s muscle tissue and bones.” – and that is in addition to regular medical training. Osteopathic medical schools require the same prerequisite science courses and the same MCAT entrance exams that M.D. schools require. Like M.D. schools, the four-year curriculum consists of the same basic medical science coursework in addition to clinical rotations that provide direct patient care experience. There are currently 26 osteopathic medical schools in the U.S. and, like M.D.s, D.O.s do internships and residency training in all the standard medical specialties. D.O.s are fully-qualified physicians licensed to prescribe medications and perform surgery in all 50 states.

Labeling them all quacks is unfair. Not all osteopaths are anti-vaxxers.

Even Dr. Andrew Wakefield was not an anti-vaxxer. He was concerned about the correlation between the appearance of the MMR shot (1971) and the subsequent rise in autism. Correlation is not causality however, from what I can see, there is no real research proving or disproving a link between MMR and autism, just a lot of angry, emotional debate. Wakefield was not anti-vaccine but instead, urged the industry to go back to administering the vaccines separately.

And while I understand your fear of vaccine preventable illness -but comparing a parent who wants to choose whether or not to vaccinate to a parent who wants to sexually abuse their child because it is their right to choose what goes into their child is pure ad hominem and emotional attack. I’ve read enough of your writing to know you are better than that.

I followed Western Medical advice and dutifully took my pharmaceutical antidepressants while doctors told me that my issues with chronic pain, asthma and bronchitis were simply due to stress and would all get better if “You would just lose some weight.”

After my third bout with bronchitis in two months, I finally got someone to listen to me about a motorcycle accident that occurred when I was 16. I was flung off a moped at 30-40 miles per hour and hit the ground head first. I did not receive any medical treatment. That lead to an x-ray and an MRI that showed damage to all the cervical spinal disks on the right side of the neck and that the bones at C5/C6 were rubbing together. A large calcium deposit was compressing my spinal cord and the neurosurgeon who treated me said I was one good whiplash away from becoming a full blown tetraplegic. Once the disk issue was treated, my problems with asthma and chronic bronchitis vanished. Four years after surgery, I got tired of the SSRI drugs making me feel like a zombie, I transitioned off of them using – alternative medicine. Supplements. Therapy. Meditation. Daily exercise- including Pilates to try to regain core strength and balance lost during 28 years of an untreated spinal cord injury.

We both know that chanting OM or going vegan would not have done a damn thing to remove that dangerous calcium deposit but Western Medicine ignored my symptoms for far too long – I think it is safe to say that both alternative and traditional medicine have their share of quacks. From my own experience, the best healing came from a combination of the two. I’m not alone in this.

Frick! Never mind empathy – even if they have no shred of empathy for people whatsoever, they’d still want … bragging rights or something. Even if they are a complete animal, they’re still not going to hide it – even animals want to reproduce and “I cured cancer and I can prove it” – what a great pick-up line that is.

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