Perry was techinically a "replacement singer." So there were three replacement singers before Pineda. Of course if you to count Robert Fleischman as a "replacement singer" since he was supposed to take over for Greg Rollie on vocals. Starts getting complicated when looking at Journey's singer situation.

Rich the Techinically Guy

Law of Logical Argument: Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.

bought dream after dream from "Musicland" in Roseville MN in 84ish, only 13 at the time for 20 bucks which was a small fortune back then for me. At first I was SO disappointed, but grew to like most of it. Still wondered how much it would have been worth as it was numbered low 100 ish (like out out 4000 or so) and me as a stupid kid stuffed it in a backpack to bring to friend cause I did not even own a record player.Secondly a year or so later at 15 I biked 40 some miles and back to buy ROR on its opening week, and even once again wanting to hear the Frontiers sound, was initially disappointed. But take a few Fan points off cause I have never owned In The Beginning Now that is a true Journey Fan!

a man, well, he'll walk right into hell with both eyes open. But even the devil can't fool a dog!"

You went to a Journey concert in 1978 anddidn't know or care Van Halen was one of thetwo opening acts.

Perry's good natured bonhomie & the world’s most charmin smile,knocked fans off their feet. Sportin a black tux,gigs came alive as he swished around the stage thrillin audiences w/ charisma that instantly burnt the oxygen right out of the venue.TR.com

...you have a ridiculous amount of show recordings, many of which sound like crap, but you still value and love each one and never grow tired of hearing the same songs performed over and over and over and over...

You might be a REAL Journey Fan if.....you're on a Journey forum in M.R. discussing what a real Journey fan isand wondering what Deano's expression would be.

Perry's good natured bonhomie & the world’s most charmin smile,knocked fans off their feet. Sportin a black tux,gigs came alive as he swished around the stage thrillin audiences w/ charisma that instantly burnt the oxygen right out of the venue.TR.com

Perry was techinically a "replacement singer." So there were three replacement singers before Pineda. Of course if you to count Robert Fleischman as a "replacement singer" since he was supposed to take over for Greg Rollie on vocals. Starts getting complicated when looking at Journey's singer situation.

Rich the Techinically Guy

Thanks for the history lesson, Rich. I am quite aware of that, dude. In the public consciousness, casual fans seem most aware of Perry and Pineda. That was my point.

"I think we should all sue this women for depriving us of our God given right to go down with a clear mind, and good thoughts." - Stu, Consumate Pussy Eater

AJ wrote:If you knew before Rockin' Deano there was Meanie! They may have been twins, who knows?

Also, he was Mr. Mean on the mailing list before he was Meanie.

They are not twins, or the same person. Meanie's real name is Jim Rudd. He started out on the mailing list, then drove people on the VH1 Journey forum crazy, then Skylorde's forum...and a very short time on BackTalk. He basically dropped off the scene because he got bored of it...and I am sure BT was WAY to restrictive for his style...he would have thrived here, tho.

AJ wrote:If you knew before Rockin' Deano there was Meanie! They may have been twins, who knows?

I remember Journey Troll. Never heard of Meanie.

Original Journey Forum on the Journey website around '98-99. His real name was Mike if I remember correctly.

No, Mike is Froy.

Jim Rudd is Meanie. He was on the mailing list when I owned it...he is one of the reasons why I decided I would never run a forum or mailing list again Well, I did try a couple other things, but I never got into it like the mailing list. He was around much earlier than Sky's forum, the mailing list started around 1993.

JourneyTroll is Joe Reardon, I think....he's used many nicks...Andrew would know

AJ wrote:If you knew before Rockin' Deano there was Meanie! They may have been twins, who knows?

Also, he was Mr. Mean on the mailing list before he was Meanie.

They are not twins, or the same person. Meanie's real name is Jim Rudd. He started out on the mailing list, then drove people on the VH1 Journey forum crazy, then Skylorde's forum...and a very short time on BackTalk. He basically dropped off the scene because he got bored of it...and I am sure BT was WAY to restrictive for his style...he would have thrived here, tho.

The VH1 forum - now that is a blast from the past. I remember that. So much Augeri hate on there.

"I think we should all sue this women for depriving us of our God given right to go down with a clear mind, and good thoughts." - Stu, Consumate Pussy Eater

[quote="Monker"][quote="AJ"][quote="The_Noble_Cause"][quote="AJ"]If you knew before Rockin' Deano there was Meanie! They may have been twins, who knows? [/quote]

I remember Journey Troll. Never heard of Meanie.[/quote]

Original Journey Forum on the Journey website around '98-99. His real name was Mike if I remember correctly.[/quote]

No, Mike is Froy.

Jim Rudd is Meanie. He was on the mailing list when I owned it...he is one of the reasons why I decided I would never run a forum or mailing list again Well, I did try a couple other things, but I never got into it like the mailing list. He was around much earlier than Sky's forum, the mailing list started around 1993.

JourneyTroll is Joe Reardon, I think....he's used many nicks...Andrew would know [/quote]

Monker, you would know better than me since you ran a forum, but I could have swore that Meanie was Mike Dimino.

Sounds like he and I are similar. I was on BackTalk quite a bit for a while but it just got old fighting with the loons. I started coming here when the Tapegate thing started and have kinda lurked ever since. Seems like some of the same ol' same ol' for the most part.

I remember back then when all Meanie would do is bash Steve Perry.But he seemed to have inside information, well maybe, cause he said the song Against the Wall, weeks before the album was released, was a good song that all of the "loonies" would gush over, but the rest of GH+5 sucked. I seemed to remember a "Barbie"? who would reply back and forth with Meanie and I always thought for sure it was the same person cause all they did was trash Perry and agree with each other.

a man, well, he'll walk right into hell with both eyes open. But even the devil can't fool a dog!"