Gary Numan Digest Thu, 26 Oct 2000 Volume 2 : Issue 85
Today's Topics:
Administrivia (Oops! Mea Culpa!)
Academy Part 2
Academy Part 3
Brixton Academy - miscellaneous
Clouds-what the hell?
david bowie quote re:- numan at spitfire website
Full Brixton Gig Review
Gary Numan Digest V2 #83
Jonathan Ross Radio 2
Noise Noise updaye, plus a request to some people on the list
Phil Collins/Replicas Resemblance
Pulse Bass and Hetrodyne
Question - Am I The Only One ?
smile me to remind
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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 08:22:39 -0600
From: "Joey Lindstrom"
Subject: Administrivia (Oops! Mea Culpa!)
To: "digest@garynumanfan.nu"
I sincerely apologize for the fiasco with the last Digest (V2 #84),
which was entirely my fault. Had I not been distracted, I would have
spotted the problem prior to it causing a much bigger problem for all
of you.
Without going into all the gory details, here's what happened:
1) Several weeks ago we changed the mail transport system on the Linux
machine that currently produces the Digest. This was necessary because
the one we were using, which was packaged with my Linux distribution,
was insecure and was vulnerable to attack from spammers. So, this new
transport system was installed but we ran into a snag that only
affected subscribers within the same domain (ie: "garynumanfan.nu").
In other words, me personally. :-) So, for many issues now, I have
not personally been receiving my Digests.
2) We then tried a workaround, readdressing my copies of the digest
from "joey@garynumanfan.nu" to "joey@sinclair.garynumanfan.nu", the
latter being the actual machine name of my main mail server (not the
machine that produces the Digest). This should have solved the
problem, but it didn't, and more tweaking was necessary (to the
"sinclair" machine).
3) I made those tweaks and fixed the problem, but in so doing, the
contents of my "bad messages directory" was reprocessed - and that's
the part I didn't notice as my attention was distracted. Thus, 13
previous Digests, which my mail server had previously flagged as
undeliverable, were bounced back to the Digest in their entirety, which
produced a Digest of some 473K in size.
This is my fault entirely, not Dave's or Derek's, so if you wanna bitch
at somebody, I'm your man. :-) I'll try to be a bit more careful
about such things in the future, but in the meantime, the underlying
problem HAS been fixed and there should be no such further incidents.
Again, my apologies.
/ From the desk of Joey Lindstrom
/
/ One time the power went out in my house and I had to use the flash on my
/ camera to see my way around. I made a sandwich and took fifty pictures
/ of my face. The neighbors thought there was lightning in my house.
/ --Steven Wright
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:40:13 +0100
From: vickers@netcomuk.co.uk
Subject: Academy Part 2
To: Gary Numan
You will have to forgive me if the following
report seems a bit flat. A lot has happened
since Friday night. The hotel in London, then
a day at the Dome. It was to celebrate one
of the Baha=92i Holy Days, and there must have
been about 800 Baha=92is there, so a lot of old
acquaintances, etc. Then back home on
Saturday night, and on Sunday my back gave in=20
while I was sorting out some garden refuse to take
to the tip. So I am sitting here in some pain,
typing this in.
I had never been to the Brixton Academy=20
before. The floor slopes down nicely, and the
stage looks like an outside stage, the whole
decor designed to look outdoors.....
At 8 p.m. the support band came on. Once again,
I was unable to tell the name of this band. A
standard four-piece, pleasant, reasonably
competent. The music reminded me, at various
times, of Lloyd Cole, Radiohead, oh dear, I
can=92t remember now. The singer had his mouth
right up to the microphone, and you couldn=92t
get a word of what he said when he was talking.
Made the more difficult by the chants of=20
=93Noooooommmaaaaaan=94 between each song.
They played for about half an hour.
At 9.00 the stage was bathed in blue and white,
and the intro -clearly =93PURE=94 - began. The band
came on, to great cheers, and played the=20
following:
1. PURE. It was.
2. ME! I DISCONNECT FROM YOU
The stage was lit up by stars, swirls, etc.
produced by front stage lights. The stars
were there for the =93I wanna bea fallin star=94,
but they weren=92t falling, they were rotating.
3. ANGEL WARS. I didn=92t recognise it at
first, and Gary started singing the second
verse instead of the first, but - as always -
covered it up.=20
4. MY JESUS. Good.
5. FILMS. A number of times during the show
Gary signalled to someone offstage to put up
or down the volume coming into his earpiece
or something similar. A new departure!
6. MAGIC. It was.
Gary then thanked us and said =93Goodnight!=94
He then introduced Rob Holliday, one of the
two extra musicians he used on the album,
and whom he credited for making it what it is.
Rob Holliday (on guitar? or was it bass, I=92ve
forgotten...) then joined the band for
7. RIP. It did.
8. CARS. Lively, full of bounce.
9. METAL (new version).
10. LITTLE INVITRO. This is such a sad song,
and replaced Absolution as the slowest point of
the show. It held everyone=92s breath, except for
one person behind me who kept talking to the
bloke next to him..........
11. DOWN IN THE PARK.
12. THIS WRECKAGE. I had forgotten that
this was such a good song. If only this single=20
had not been released at Christmas, it would
have been a Top Ten. Gary went off-key at=20
one point. Very entertaining, though. Grand
chorus of =93Farewell=94 in Japanese.
13. DEAD HEAVEN.
14. I CAN=92T BREATHE. A good singalong
chorus on this one, if you have not heard the
new album yet. No-one can resist this. And=20
some of the audience were fooled by the false
ending, before the loudest chorus of all.
15. ARE =93FRIENDS=94 ELECTRIC? Well,
yes, clearly. The audience was electrified.
16. A PRAYER FOR THE UNBORN.=20
Isn=92t this a good song? In fact, so far, we
had had 16 good songs.
=93Bye Bye=94. First departure from stage.
Endless applause. Return of band.
17. LISTEN TO MY VOICE. Somehow,
this did not have the drive and appeal that
the album track has. Not enough sound
from the drums? That infectious backing=20
rhythm did not come through. It got better,
but this was the only one which left me=20
feeling that it did not quite come over....
18. REPLICAS. This was ***wonderful**.
No goth, casual punter or hardened
music critic could fail to be moved by the
soaring synths.......
They went off again. More applause.
Back on.
19. OBSERVER. With Steve Harris on bass.
20. DANCE. I recognised it, but could not
think what it was. I had to ask around among
the other fans, till someone told me.
21. TRACKS. Then the band made theirs.
A good concert. Well worth three and a half
hours travel to get to!
Will I go to the next one?
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Paddy Vickers
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:43:41 +0100
From: vickers@netcomuk.co.uk
Subject: Academy Part 3
To: Gary Numan
The support band were called Malluka,
and had an album released in March.
Look them up at
Paddy Vickers
P.S. My favourite tracks on the Pure
album are Pure, Walking With Shadows,
Rip, One Perfect Lie, My Jesus, Fallen,
Listen To My Voice, Prayer For The Unborn,
Torn, Little Invitro and I Can't Breathe.
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:22:43 +0100
From: rawebley
Subject: Brixton Academy - miscellaneous
To: "Numan Digest (E-mail)"
Just a few comments concerning the gig on Oct 20th.
I thought that this concert was the best Numan concert that I have been to.
The choice of songs was good.
Some of the tracks that I was very surprised to hear that night included:
a) This Wreckage
b) Observer
c) Dance.
The tracks that he played from the Pure Album were excellent.
My favourite track of the night for some reason was Observer. It's by no
means my favourite track but the way the old synthesiser sounds were
employed hit the spot for me.
Unfortunately I never stayed until the end. The last track that I heard was
'Tracks' because my sister was tired and wanted to go. She's by no means a
Numan fan but certainly enjoyed the "oldie but goodie" tracks i.e Car, Are
Friends Electric. Could someone tell me if there were any more tracks after
"Tracks" - hopefully it was the last song and I didn't miss too much.
Did Numan attend an aftershow party? How do people find out where these
parties are?
In case your'e wondering who I am - from what I could make out that night I
was the only Black guy there that night (with my sister)
I also actually spotted a couple of Asian bros' there as well.(Well done
boys).
Anyway, I'm outta' here.
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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 03:59:51 EDT
From: Numaniac@aol.com
Subject: Clouds-what the hell?
To: digest@garynumanfan.nu
...oh jesus christ. what is with this "what's with the clouds?" crap.... how
the F*** is the album artwork significant to how GOOD the album is?! Now,
it's posts like these that almost drive me to delete all digests coming into
my mailbox (the one's coming in during and around the release of 'pure'
anyway). but....it was hard to avoid (ha). it's only been 13 days since
pure's been out (by my clock) and you're already yabberin' and jabberin' and
throwin' your cloud whine out? settle down you goober (asylum5) you're
bringin' me down with your chart predictions....I'm done!
John
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 05:23:59 -0700
From: alecw
Subject: david bowie quote re:- numan at spitfire website
To: digest@garynumanfan.nu
gesters,
i have to admit i was pretty shocked to read the nice words from david
bowie re:- gary numan at the spitfire website. 2 of the best songs in
british pop music? well, i'll be.
--a
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:18:05 +0400
From: The Tik-Tok Man
Subject: Full Brixton Gig Review
To: Numan Digest
Brill!
Tik-Tok Man (of a few words)
Back in his box in Moscow
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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 23:54:26 EDT
From: Replica79@aol.com
Subject: Gary Numan Digest V2 #83
To: digest@garynumanfan.nu
In a message dated 10/19/00 12:10:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
digest@garynumanfan.nu writes:
<< digest-request@garynumanfan.nu
>>
Hello,
Although I am a huge fan of Gary's I'd like to be taken off of the Gary Numan
Digest mailing list. What I thought was to be a music related newsletter on
the going's-on in Numan's career has simply become a bitching post for a
bunch religion obsessed morons. Who cares what Gary's beliefs are? He's a
musician and a brilliant songwriter and anyone caught up in anything other
than that aspect of his life need to get one of thier own.
I do appreciate the few newsworthy moments and certain fan's "music related"
perspectives but the whining is too much. Please remove me immediately.
Best of luck,
Garrett
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:15:42 +0100
From: "Lex Machinery (UK) Limited"
Subject: Jonathan Ross Radio 2
To:
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I had recently in past weeks got use to listening to Jonathan Ross on =
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very interesting. Last Saturday morning 21/10. I was eagerly awaiting =
his review of 'Pure'. As he mentioned earlier in his show that we are =
going to be playing 'Cars' later in the programme and reviewing Gary =
Numan's latest Album 'Pure' which he said that he had gone out and =
purchased earlier in the week. Well sadly he was not kind towards Numan. =
He started by saying that he saw Gary back years ago in his band called =
'Mean Street' and that he was then dreadful. After playing the song =
'Cars' he did say that he thought that it was a great classic track. =
But as he moved onto 'Pure' well he just slated it and said that it =
sounded as though it was written by a 14 year old lad who had never =
really grown up. He also remarked on Gary coming to terms with =
baldness, which was so boring, I can't remember the exact comment. I =
just thought how very dissapointing it was having just seen Gary play =
the night before and how amazing he had performed, and if only J.R =
himself, could have been there in person he would have seen and heard a =
very different Gary Numan. How can anyone not familiar with Gary =
Numan's Complex music expect to give an analysis on just briefly =
skipping through an album like 'Pure' for the very first time. I found =
it also very damaging from such a large radio station. But one good =
thing was the fact that 'Mike Lamar' was on the same show by this point =
and he said that he liked Numan very much. He also said that his fans =
worship him too. So thank you Mike Lamar.=20
=20
There seems to be a big Gothic revival. It was great looking at some of =
those amazing outfits on Friday evening. I love that 'Prayer for the =
Unborn'
=20
Thank you 'Gary Numan' you gave us a very memorable evening.=20
=20
den. =20
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Thank you 'Gary Numan' you gave us a very = memorable=20 evening.
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------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 16:05:07 +0100 From: "Antonio" Subject: Noise Noise updaye, plus a request to some people on the list To: "Gary Numan" First off, I have updated the Lyrics section of Noise Noise to include Pure, The Sailor In Love With The Sea and Redirected Mail. You can get there by going to this url - http://www.goffboi.freeserve.co.uk/Page2.html The format of the site has also changed, with the songs appearing in order of release rather than alphabetically, so it's kind of a discography with links to lyrics for all the songs. The lyrics are complete except for the following songs - and if anyone wants to have a go at these I can complete the project properly ;) Anthem Boys I'm A Poseur In A Glasshouse Kill St Joy Me My Head She Cries The Fear You Don't Know Me Positive Thinking White Light/White Heat Don't Be A Dummy Secondly, I have a gripe about this digest. Can people realise this list comes a a plain text document, and posting in html is a bad idea, as is trying to insert pictures, and including the whle of the previous diget in your posts? This makes it very dificult to actually read the digest - all that meta name stuff and lines and lines of code. I realise that some people do not understand how to use computers very well, and do not realise that what they are sending out is full of raw code which takes ages to download and looks bad, but really - if this were a newsnet group the culprits would be flamed into oblivion. I am going to take this opportunity to let people know how to send out plain text messages in outlook express - (if you use netscape or another programme for your e-mail, then there should be help files to tell you how to do it). In your mail programme, at the top, there is a bar. It says tools here. Click it. A submenu will magically appear. Now click Options. There are some tabs in the box that appears, at the top. Click on the one that says send. There are two settings options here. Click on the one which says plain text. Now click ok. Your posts here will then be readable and not have all those meta tags on them. Outlook express defaults your mail as html, you have to change it. Remember - tools/options/send/plain text. It may seem a small quibble, but it makes a HUGE difference to the readability of your posts, and the size of the digest. And don't forget to delete everything when you hit that reply button! Antonio ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 22:59:13 -0500 From: "Patrick Bloofon" Subject: Phil Collins/Replicas Resemblance To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is my first time writing to the digest, so please excuse anything I = do wrong :) Anyway, in the last issue, someone mentioned that the room = in Phil Collins' "In The Air Tonight" video resembled the Replicas = room.... OMG, I thought I was the only one!!! I noticed that too. It's more than = a resemblance, it's got to be a direct copy! I've been meaning to get = some screen captures specifically for comparison. I'd love to find out = more info about this little coincidence. Seriously....the resemblance is = uncanny. Transactoid. Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is my first time writing to the = digest, so=20 please excuse anything I do wrong :) Anyway, in the last issue, someone=20 mentioned that the room in Phil Collins' "In The Air Tonight" video = resembled=20 the Replicas room....
OMG, I thought I was the only one!!! I = noticed that=20 too. It's more than a resemblance, it's got to be a direct copy! I've = been=20 meaning to get some screen captures specifically for comparison. I'd = love to=20 find out more info about this little coincidence. Seriously....the = resemblance=20 is uncanny.
Transactoid.
------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:25:53 +0200 From: "Hansi Slanec" Subject: Pulse Bass and Hetrodyne To: "Gary Numan" Does anybody know, what happened to "Puls Bass" and "Hetrodyne" the two "new" songs, that were featured on the one off shows last and/or early this year. Obviously they are not on Pure. Or are thea renamed? But to what? Thanks for helping out at this point. Hansi, the Austrian ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 07:11:02 -0500 From: Brad LaVoise Subject: Question - Am I The Only One ? To: Numan Digest Am I the only US fan who is waiting for the US release of Pure on November 7th. >From what I read on the most recent digest leads to believe the answer is yes. I understand that is has been awhile between Exile and now Pure. But surely a month wait could have been tolerated. The real question is, for the US fans who bought the UK release of Pure, which I understand entered the UK charts at 58. Will you buy the US release of Pure to help out whatever chart position it may enter at? Maybe, just maybe if more albums of Pure are sold here in the states, just maybe the next tour could visit more cities than the Exile tour did. From what was said on the Sun Online interview/questions, is that the next US tour will not be until March 2001. Oh well, enough of this rant, tirade or whatever. Patiently waiting for the US release of Pure Brad St. Louis, MO ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:53:21 -0500 From: Val & Ben Iglar-Mobley Subject: smile me to remind To: The Gary Digest
> Just a quick note to mention the sad passing of the Cars' Ben Orr on
> Oct. 3 of pancreatic cancer. Suddenly losing New Wave musicians has
> become a scary reality to me!
Thanks for mentioning it, Hopey, sad as the news is. I felt some loss
when I heard that. The New Wavers we listened to when we were teens
aren't supposed to grow old and die; they're supposed to always stay
young and energetic. Orr sang the song that got me into The Cars,
"Let's Go," with its heavy-synth-heavy sound, which I thought was Gary-
reminiscent. (Am I alone in that? Another one that I thought hearkened
to Gary's keys was Salt 'N' Pepa's "Push It.") And I always liked his
being another Ben.
In an unrelated item, that CD pirate I mentioned a few digests ago has
another couple discs of interest to 'noids, I've just learned. Both the
Bill Sharpe collaboration album 'Automatic' and the instrumental album
'Human' he has available as CDRs for anyone looking to fill in those
gaps in the Gary back-catalog reissue parade. Once again, his name is
Wes Holley, he charges $12.50 (US) plus postage per disc, and he's at
mailto:romoboy@midsouth.rr.com. I still don't get anything out of
referring anyone to him; I just wanted to share the info with my fellow
'noids, maybe help out a collection or two.
You know, I had always thought that spiralling-downward intro to "Remind
Me To Smile" on 'Living Ornaments 80' was just the band trying to find
the right sound, like the keyboard had been set to a rhythm that was too
high in tone and they were modulating it down before they could begin
the song proper. Since hearing the song on the 'Telekon' reissue disc
I've realized they were just playing that version of the intro, rather
than the "Heart Of Glass" intro that I have on my album. Never knew.
Was that a difference in the US versus UK pressings?
love,
Ben
http://home.earthlink.net/~iglarmobley
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