Basically by saying it's right on your TV screen. He showed a more horrific version with the whole prying the eyes open. If you live with someone,
try sneaking up on them while they are watching TV, look at their eyes (maybe too paranoid).

But when I read Elvis had 3 screens on at the same time tuned to dif stations it immediately reminded me of that movie.

the entire process of being an actor is and of itself mind control, the actor is programmed via the set and script; think about it, the amount of
time that goes into memorizing and enacting a script, the foundation of classic MPD. take the example of an actor or actress thats had 100 different
roles played in their life and whose entire life is spent memorizing and enacting script, "getting into charachter" so to speak. the entire industry
is MK Ultra, from the author of the charachters, to the actors to the consumers of the DVD's who watch the same movie's in their home library, over
and over again

they dont do celebs as its not worth the risk, they choose those whom they think are vunerable and not a threat.

mk ultra is forceful brainwashing , its preferable for them to use normal methods of brainwashing they do to the masses on celebs , such as public
humiliation , breakdown of identity , narcotics and medication , reward/punishment cycles , isolation(common with celebs) ,threats and intimidation
,remote covert brainwave alteration(easy as cake) and so on.

brainwashing techniques are everywhere , so many people are brainwashed and they dont even notice it,it begins in the youth,toddler hood with
punishment and follow the leader indoctrination.
our society is now built to brainwash us

Techniques such as: Extended audio, visual, verbal, or tactile fixation drills, Excessive exact repetition of routine activities, Sleep restriction
and/or Nutritional restriction.”
“Social isolation is promoted. Contact with family and friends are abridged, as is contact with persons who do not share group-approved attitudes.
Economic and other dependence on the group is fostered.”
“Prohibit disconfirming information and non supporting opinions in group communication. Rules exist about permissible topics to discuss with
outsiders. Communication is highly controlled. An "in-group" language is usually constructed.”
“Make the person re-evaluate the most central aspects of his or her experience of self and prior conduct in negative ways. Efforts are designed to
destabilize and undermine the subject's basic consciousness, reality awareness, world view, emotional control and defense mechanisms. The subject is
guided to reinterpret his or her life's history and adopt a new version of causality.”
“Create a sense of powerlessness by subjecting the person to intense and frequent actions and situations which undermine the person's confidence
in himself and his judgment.”
“Create strong aversive emotional arousals in the subject by use of nonphysical punishments such as intense humiliation, loss of privilege, social
isolation, social status changes, intense guilt, anxiety and manipulation.” “Intimidate the person with the force of group-sanctioned secular
psychological threats.”
“These tactics of psychological force are applied to such a severe degree that the individual's capacity to make informed or free choices becomes
inhibited. The victims become unable to make the normal, wise or balanced decisions which they most likely or normally would have made, had they not
been unknowingly manipulated by these coordinated technical processes.”

In Dr. Brodeur's Personal Research Journal, brainwashing techniques are discussed: Isolation: “One tactic for generating a state of debility,
dependence, and dread (DDD) is isolation. (..) Another technique is to subject a captive to sensory deprivation.
Decrease the amount of sensory stimulation available, such as is readily experienced in solitary confinement.”

Thought control: “Force a person to choose between cooperating or losing one's income, position, tenure, possibility of advancement or meritorious
pay increase. Confuse people and wear them down by unpredictable treatment, sometimes harsh and seemingly unfair and arbitrary, and at other times
friendly, fair-minded, and conciliatory. This kind of manipulation produces anxiety, dread, and guilt, as well as confusion about what to think and
how to act.”
Conditioning: “This consists of daily repetitious lecturing and instruction along a certain line of thinking, behaving, and being. If you go along
with the "party" line, you are rewarded and if you don't, you are punished.”

now how many of those fit into the everyday routine and lifestyle of modern society!?
i particulary like the high sugar diet aspect of it....kinda strange how the modern diet is saturated with sugar......

one of the ways to modify normal brain functions is diet. and one great diet is the high-in-sugar diet. all that sugar causes your nervous system to
malfunction. it throws the system entirely out of whack and makes it really hard to distinguish between fantasy and reality, which in turn makes it
easier for you to assert yourself in the minds of the sugar eaters. combine a sugar enriched diet with long working hours and little to no sleep, and
you've got yourself one spaced out citizenry. that is to say, highly suggestible and easily led.

My thoughts are many of these people are in some way a host and not necessarily having a split or fractured personality. This is possibly done with
implants or even some type of OOBE similar to remote viewing, but much more enhanced.

These people who are used as hosts or great hosts such as celebrities to assume to be them using their bodies and minds. Some may even have clones at
various ages.

Some of these chosen may have been cloned for hundreds or thousands of years as if elite bloodlines. The exact number of these bloodlines may be
limited to 666 originals.

We've already heard of twins having psychic connections, this may also be one of their secrets as if being in two places at once.

Some threads mention the elite bloodlines such as through the illuminati. My thoughts are these are related to watchers and immortals through these
abilites and technologies and most likely as long or longer than recorded history.

I doubt this is strictly a man made mind control program. But at any rate, any visiting species may think even less of our species by how we treat our
own. Possibly why we may also have cyclical extinctions.

hosts is the right word,and they host "grays",i know grays sounds all conspiracy esk but they are real,they are designed to live inside human
bodies.

celebs having the potential for mass communication,yet too visible to replace with replicants(whilst they are famous that is,pre celeb phase is the
danger time) are a prime target for grays...scientology is the latest method in which to implant them into men whom lack a womb and its easiliy
accesible oriphace!
we all have a thetan inside our bodies according to scientology, a nice little "alien" who is our soul and friend!.

A little insight on Kurt Cobain. Yes, I do believe he was mentally manipulated. Musicians are a prime target for mind control. I've personally known
two musicians involved in MKULTRA.

Kurt Cobain first admitted to doing heroin to his bassist Krist Novoselic in 1989, but actually upon further examination it seems that Kurt had been
doing hard drugs especially heroine since 86 or 87. Here's what probably happened.

Kurt Cobain was a notorious couch surfer. He couldn't hold a job for crap. Heh I can identify with him there. Jobs suck. He was homeless most of the
time, though... and he was struggling to maintain a drug habit. There is an easy way to make up to 3000 dollars for doing absolutely nothing, and this
is a very attractive deal to social vagrants and struggling artists. I will tell you about it.

I have two musician friends who have participated in programs which they disclosed to me privately WERE IN FACT MKULTRA programs. What they do is
government laboratories put ads in the classifieds offering a few thousand dollars and room and board for volunteers to participate in "medical
experiments". Nobody who's employed or not desperate enough for cash that they would sell their own bodies to a government experiment is going to
respond to those ads. So naturally, all they get is the homeless, the vagrants, the druggies, and all the social outcasts that society forgets about
signing up for these things. They aren't really medical experiments, though. They are MKULTRA mind control slave factories. Simple as that.

There is a facility near St. Louis, MO where much of this experimentation goes on. Many struggling musicians who have subsequently become famous have
gone through these facilities. How else do you think Kurt Cobain financed the production and distribution of their first album? He was DIRT POOR!

There's much more to be said about my experiences with MKULTRA victims... but that's another story, and I've already been threatened enough times.
I can't help but interject in these types of threads though. Anyone who doesn't believe in mind control is most likely mind controlled heavily
themselves.... and society alone can do that! It's such a persistent illusion, that I have to snap myself out of it at least 10 times a day.

I have to post this all over again because this stupid forum messed up! I do believe that the MK-ultra thing is possible. I am not naive and assuming
everyone is crazy or anything like that. However, people are taking it a bit too far by naming these random celebrities. Just because they seem
'weird' to people, that means they are mind control victims? Having issues doesn't equal being victims of mind control. Drug abuse and mental
illness happen to millions of average people.

To the person who said the Mickey Mouse kids have no noticable talent yet became famous...that isn't true. Christina Aguilera has had an EXTREMELY
powerful voice since birth. She sounded like she was 20 at age 9.

Not to mention she is a normal girl. She never did drugs to our knowledge or seemed out of control. And no I don't consider her being sexually open
as being out of control. So now because Britney and Christina sell sex like many other people in the industry, that is the mind control at it's best?

It is a known fact that selling sex sells records. Take an AVERAGE girl, put her in a tight mini skirt and guys will turn to look. It is common sense.
People like Madonna and Britney are famous because of their performing abilities and their amazing songwriters. Good songwriters= good songs=big
fame. You can brainwash someone all you want but they aren't going to become huge stars and sell millions because of it. The PEOPLE have to like
them. There are many singers who have tried to make it big and failed miserably. There are also MANY famous singers who were NOT famous as children.
Madonna was not famous as a kid either.

Mind control takes far more than simply writing subliminal messages in a movie script. It takes ALOT of consistent physical/mental probing. It took
years of daily mind control experiments according to the victims themselves. So how on earth would they get a hold of some of these people? Just grab
them one day and throw them into a chamber of doom? That isn't how it works. Most of the people listed as victims show no indications of being so out
of the ordinary that they are victims of anything but normal problems mixed with the troubles of fame. If they had split personalities we would catch
on given the amount of time they are on camera. People with MPD act like TOTALLY different people with each personality. They talk/walk and act like
someone else. Most of the celebs listed have never done that. How WOULD they get a hold of them anyway? They tour, they promote, they go to clubs at
night..where would that leave time for mind control? Their lives are practically taped 24/7 now days! You can watch Linday Lohans DAILY and NIGHTLY
routine on the net! She was never away from a camera enough to have been a victim of this.

I will even say Michael Jackson could have been a subject to it. He is obviously beyond crazy and his whole family is quite nuts. Maybe Elvis, given
his military training. I don't believe Britney Spears has anything to do with it at all. So she had a breakdown, MANY people do. Is that to say every
bipolar person is bipolar due to MKultra? No. Her having a genetic problem could have easily been the cause. Her father is an alcoholic. Right there
is a key factor. If you have an addict as a parent you are FAR more likely to become one yourself. Her mother was also a pushy stage mom. Given her
genetics mixed with her parents divorce/bad parenting ...AND her own divorce..that is obviously the reason for her meltdown.

Again some people may have been victims, more so the older stars. I don't believe for a second some of these other people are involved. Especially
with this day and age being obsessed with a stars every movie. Like I said you can see pics/videos of some stars every day life. They don't stop
filming celebrities. Paparazzi follow them from place to place and never leave them alone. So if they were subjects of mind control, it certain was a
QUICK session!

I posted this on a different thread but thought it should go here instead. With all my research I believe that they 'are' doing this. I mean really
doesn't any body get it? The implications here are incredible, who can anyone trust? Think about it, religions, government, media, they are all on
the same page. Yet we the victims, truthseekers and truthtellers, are not on the same page.
I feel that this issue would resolve everything that is going on around us today. EVERYTHING!

I also have some serious questions about this issue. For example, Since the mk ultra documents were released by the freedom of information act in the
70's. With subsequent congressional hearings to no avail thus access was denied. (Which tells me they have something to hide.) Who's to say that our
very own government officials are not mind controlled. Who can trust any of them? Didn't this raise some serious questions with our government
officials of the time? Obviously NOT! I FOR ONE DO NOT TRUST THEM. This CBC broadcast movie was an account of the Canadian victims of mind control
perpetrated by our deceitful government.
'The Sleep Room'
The US purchased the rights to this film, yet it was never aired in the US. Although there is an edited version for sale/rent for 'our viewing
pleasure'.
Also, we know for a fact that the government compartmentalize 'everything' so not one person will know everything. I recently found Barbara
Hartwell's Blog and from what I understand she and ex cia Ted Gunderson were friends until she uncovered some facts regarding him. Now they are not
collaberating, because each claim the other is still working for the agency. Thus the enemy wins through division of the opposition. Maybe one of them
is right about the other working COINTELPRO or maybe both are right and only have access to certain facts. My problem with this is; we are ALL looking
for truth, when we fight among ourselves we are not working for the same goal TRUTH.

Do Not Trust the GOVERNMENT /media!!! They have not earned it. Maybe we should start a movement, no NWO without the accountability, demand that the
NSA files be opened and all factions of our society held accountable. They won't need them if they want NWO anyway. Still countries would need to
have their sovereignty safe. I really don't think all of the countries want a NWO without the accountability. I don't know I am just blowing off
steam at this point.

Here's my take. If the stars are controlled by anything it's their own stupid greedy mistakes, signing contracts with some devil to get every song
free in their lap, through listening through the grape vines. Mozart was one of the first to explain the effect: Every piece he ever wrote was some
how channelled to him, he said that the Nutcracker played like a concert in his head and luckily for him he was good at writing notes and arranging so
the piece was done in a few minutes. The same has been uttered by modern artists. "When the chorus comes: Let the choir sing...". We are all
telepathical to some extent. Now why do most stars use drugs and die young, often from suicide or assassins? Because there comes a status quo when the
voices completely overwhelm them. It's not fun anymore, and surely not productive. For most of their creative energy gets used up from batteling all
the maddhatters out there. Anyone relate?

How about Megan Fox, the newest sex object, she even says "I have a mental problem", admits to having "bouts of mild schizophrenia"
"I basically read every book ever written about Marilyn Monroe," Fox tells the September/October issue of Wonderland. www.redicecreations.com...
Country music has a lot of new "stars" Monarch likes to recruit C&W women according to Cathy O'Brien. Taylor Swift? Celebraties are so self
involved & crazy that any one of them could be a MK slave. Mel Gibson?

We're all MK'ed these days. 9/11, CO2 and Pandemic Paranoia are baits for the gullible, tools of The PTB to make you all buy into their agenda.
There is a "higher" purpose to find out who are going with the flow and who are sensible, retro founding and stayers. Might I suggest that there
will come similar status-quo's soon? Mark my words. Soon Revelation will be played out like a frekking symphony, too obvious not to spot. It'll be
great when the dragons come down to turn all the "believers" into the psevdo satans they are. Mark my words.

OKay so I'm reviving a random thread having to do with Illuminati Celebrities.

Are they just ignorant? NO, they do it intentionally and the new big thing is the half-pyramid which means exactly the same just using one less hand
to complete it and making it look not quite so #ing obvious. I think Lady Gaga made it the trend to use one hand instead of two and hey its catching
on!

This guy greeted me on the myspace home page.

Speaking of Lady Gaga, anyone else know that she use to be a pretty phenomenal kind of jazz artist before she hit it big? I might actually have some
respect for the whore if she continued with her work their but guess that's how it goes when you work for the Illuminati. Hilarious having her and
Beyonce do a music video together. The signs of MKULTRA in both couldn't be more obvious.

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