An AMD internal memos hows the AMD Phenom 9700, 2.4 GHz processor is slated for mid-December availability. Allocation for the Phenom 9600 running at 2.3GHz has been pushed back to a Q1 2008 date.

The Tech Report, in an interview with AMD's desktop product marketing manager Michael Saucier, confirmed an erratum for all Phenom processors that will cause the system to hang due to an L3 cache miss. The Tech Report claims this fix will degrade performance as much at 10%.

The mainboard favored by AMD, the MSI K9A2 Platinum is impossible to get currently since it is out of stock. MSI confirmed to DailyTech that this board will start shipping again next week, and that the board itself is not with any defect, but just in high demand and low availability.

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Companies make mistakes just like you. Just because they are messing up right now doesn't mean they won't be able to come back and be as good as you wish they were. Anyways this processor might not be as great as I hoped, but it does seem to be a good step towards that next great processor.

So that you can understand what I mean. This processor has an awesome memory subsystem. With a bit of work AMD could get it to work more efficient allowing the processors to cooperate with each other faster than they are now. Another section they could work on is the actual cores which bulldozer seems to be focusing on. I doubt the quad core design is the main issue with speed in this design, but rather the cores themselves, but AMD had to make a choice and they went this way.

They couldn't make a quad core any other way, and Intel took advantage of it while they could. Intel won't be able to do this again with Nehalem. Since they will both be using onboard memory controllers both will be stuck designing their architectures around this issue. Although both seem to be going modular in design so I doubt this will be an issue anymore soooo... Let's just see how bulldozer changes things. And remember AMD just MERGED... ATI could make a big change to the way AMD's processors work and vis versa. :)

??? what are you talking about.. I have a background in software engineering and design (low level design) and I have read up on how the Core2 and Barcelona processors work. I can see changes that could be made that could make the Barcelona a killer processor. If you don't believe small changes can make a processor that much faster fine. But if you want an example look at the speed difference between the Core and Core2 processors...