Co sleeping spinoff...

She took the words right out of my mouth...From: malificntTo all: I have been mulling this around for a day or two and I can't get past the feeling that there is an over riding sense of hypocracy in this thread. I keep reading people say yes I bedshare because I'm tired, babies tired, he/she just wants the safety of my arms, we all sleep better, its more convenient to breastfeed etc., and yet how many of those same people will blast another mom for turning their child front facing in a car seat at 13 months because they are screaming non-stop? How many times have I read,"just because they scream (in their car seat) does not mean its best for them, or they will get over it"? *shake head* I don't get it. If you are going to be a baby safety nut be consistent. A front facing car seat can't cause an accident whereas bedsharing can, so why do people somehow think that bedsharing is worth the risk but front facing a car seat isn't?

She took the words right out of my mouth...From: malificntTo all: I have been mulling this around for a day or two and I can't get past the feeling that there is an over riding sense of hypocracy in this thread. I keep reading people say yes I bedshare because I'm tired, babies tired, he/she just wants the safety of my arms, we all sleep better, its more convenient to breastfeed etc., and yet how many of those same people will blast another mom for turning their child front facing in a car seat at 13 months because they are screaming non-stop? How many times have I read,"just because they scream (in their car seat) does not mean its best for them, or they will get over it"? *shake head* I don't get it. If you are going to be a baby safety nut be consistent. A front facing car seat can't cause an accident whereas bedsharing can, so why do people somehow think that bedsharing is worth the risk but front facing a car seat isn't?

Personally, I think as parents, none of us are perfect and therefore anyone passing judgement on another parent is in some way hypocritical. I honestly do not believe there is a single parent in the history of the world who has never once made a decision that could have compromised the safety of their child in some way. Most of us are just lucky enough to not have something terrible happen as a result of our judgement calls.

However, we are all human, and humans judge other humans. A forum like this is just going to exaggerate that, because it's kind of the point of the whole thing.

I try to live a life in which I am not judgemental about how someone else chooses to raise their child, but on more than one occaision, I have thought to myself, "That is some crazy sh!t they are doing there." Or at the very least, "I think they should be doing x instead of y"

Also, we all have hot button issues, especially when it comes to parenting decisions. Why someone is extremely passionate about one aspect of parenting (bedsharing, foward facing carseats, ff vs. bf) is very personal and very rarely logical.

Personally, I think as parents, none of us are perfect and therefore anyone passing judgement on another parent is in some way hypocritical. I honestly do not believe there is a single parent in the history of the world who has never once made a decision that could have compromised the safety of their child in some way. Most of us are just lucky enough to not have something terrible happen as a result of our judgement calls.

However, we are all human, and humans judge other humans. A forum like this is just going to exaggerate that, because it's kind of the point of the whole thing.

I try to live a life in which I am not judgemental about how someone else chooses to raise their child, but on more than one occaision, I have thought to myself, "That is some crazy sh!t they are doing there." Or at the very least, "I think they should be doing x instead of y"

Also, we all have hot button issues, especially when it comes to parenting decisions. Why someone is extremely passionate about one aspect of parenting (bedsharing, foward facing carseats, ff vs. bf) is very personal and very rarely logical.

Good point. I have noticed in the past too how many of the same people who wave the American Pediatrics Association/Medical Association/LLL, etc. recommendations about breastfeeding in your face, also dismiss the recommendations against co-sleeping. For the record, I EBF and don't co-sleep, so I guess I get an A. *smugness*. Lol

Good point. I have noticed in the past too how many of the same people who wave the American Pediatrics Association/Medical Association/LLL, etc. recommendations about breastfeeding in your face, also dismiss the recommendations against co-sleeping. For the record, I EBF and don't co-sleep, so I guess I get an A. *smugness*. Lol

I honestly do not believe there is a single parent in the history of
the world who has never once made a decision that could have compromised
the safety of their child in some way.

Very true.

However, we are all human, and humans judge other humans. A forum like
this is just going to exaggerate that, because it's kind of the point of
the whole thing.

Exactly. I know, for myself, it's a lot easier to be blunt about my feelings and opinions the internet because nobody here knows me. Why someone is extremely passionate about one aspect of parenting
(bed sharing, forward facing car seats, ff vs. bf) is very personal and
very rarely logical.

And I think that hot button's change from child to child. The things that were my priorities for my oldest have not necessarily been the same for my youngest.

I honestly do not believe there is a single parent in the history of
the world who has never once made a decision that could have compromised
the safety of their child in some way.

Very true.

However, we are all human, and humans judge other humans. A forum like
this is just going to exaggerate that, because it's kind of the point of
the whole thing.

Exactly. I know, for myself, it's a lot easier to be blunt about my feelings and opinions the internet because nobody here knows me. Why someone is extremely passionate about one aspect of parenting
(bed sharing, forward facing car seats, ff vs. bf) is very personal and
very rarely logical.

And I think that hot button's change from child to child. The things that were my priorities for my oldest have not necessarily been the same for my youngest.

personally, i try to consistently support and utilize the parenting practices that are least risky to my child based on my interpretation of the available evidence. i think that's what most parents do, although we obviously come to different conclusions about what is least risky.

as i stated a couple of times in the previous thread, i haven't seen evidence comparing safe bedsharing to safe crib sleeping, so i base my opinion that safe bedsharing is not more risky than crib sleeping on what makes sense to me rationally. if i saw evidence to the contrary, i might change my mind. we personally did cosleeping but not bed sharing (DD slept in bassinet beside our bed), because that was what worked best for us.

in terms of FF/RF car seats, my 19 month old is still RFing. i'm not as passionate about that particular topic, but we continue to RF because i feel there is pretty clear evidence that RF is safer.

as a PP mentioned, i think it make sense that everyone has issues they are more or less passionate about. mine would probably be BF/FF personally.

personally, i try to consistently support and utilize the parenting practices that are least risky to my child based on my interpretation of the available evidence. i think that's what most parents do, although we obviously come to different conclusions about what is least risky.

as i stated a couple of times in the previous thread, i haven't seen evidence comparing safe bedsharing to safe crib sleeping, so i base my opinion that safe bedsharing is not more risky than crib sleeping on what makes sense to me rationally. if i saw evidence to the contrary, i might change my mind. we personally did cosleeping but not bed sharing (DD slept in bassinet beside our bed), because that was what worked best for us.

in terms of FF/RF car seats, my 19 month old is still RFing. i'm not as passionate about that particular topic, but we continue to RF because i feel there is pretty clear evidence that RF is safer.

as a PP mentioned, i think it make sense that everyone has issues they are more or less passionate about. mine would probably be BF/FF personally.

I strongly believe in breast feeding, I may co sleep with the baby at times, I'm going to let people come around my baby the first six weeks and I will take her out. I'm not bathing her till her belly button falls out, and I'm going to pierce her ears very early. Some disagree with some things that I just said, but who cares? I wouldn't judge those who would do otherwise, doesn't make you a bad parent.

I strongly believe in breast feeding, I may co sleep with the baby at times, I'm going to let people come around my baby the first six weeks and I will take her out. I'm not bathing her till her belly button falls out, and I'm going to pierce her ears very early. Some disagree with some things that I just said, but who cares? I wouldn't judge those who would do otherwise, doesn't make you a bad parent.

I get points for BFing, but then get some taken away for co-sleeping and not keeping my kid rear facing until they are five. But then I didn't circumcise so depending on who is judging I could be in the positive or waay in the negative. All I know is my kids are happy.

There needs to be a test.

I get points for BFing, but then get some taken away for co-sleeping and not keeping my kid rear facing until they are five. But then I didn't circumcise so depending on who is judging I could be in the positive or waay in the negative. All I know is my kids are happy.

I breastfed and bottle fed an supplemented with formula. I did not co-sleep and I took her binky away at 3 1/2 months and I took her bottle away at 9 months. And I'm almost sure I'll have het forward facing before she's 2. Did I pass or fail?

I breastfed and bottle fed an supplemented with formula. I did not co-sleep and I took her binky away at 3 1/2 months and I took her bottle away at 9 months. And I'm almost sure I'll have het forward facing before she's 2. Did I pass or fail?

There's a double word score for naming your kid with a "resume" friendly name. Deductions for any creative spelling. I put my kid in daycare 3x a week, but it's so I can work. SAHM must take a 50 yard daycare penalty, but working moms should multiply their result by the square root of pi.

There's a double word score for naming your kid with a "resume" friendly name. Deductions for any creative spelling. I put my kid in daycare 3x a week, but it's so I can work. SAHM must take a 50 yard daycare penalty, but working moms should multiply their result by the square root of pi.

This was stated in the baby soaked in pee thread, but every kid is different and will test you to your limits on different things. You have to do what works for you and your kid and tune out the noise. I've been so sleep deprived, I've plopped my 3 month old in bed with me just to get some sleep after trying to get him to stop crying and go to sleep for hours. A zombie mom may be likely to make some sort of safety mistake during the day- like get into a car accident, so maybe it *is* for our own safety.

This was stated in the baby soaked in pee thread, but every kid is different and will test you to your limits on different things. You have to do what works for you and your kid and tune out the noise. I've been so sleep deprived, I've plopped my 3 month old in bed with me just to get some sleep after trying to get him to stop crying and go to sleep for hours. A zombie mom may be likely to make some sort of safety mistake during the day- like get into a car accident, so maybe it *is* for our own safety.

Rear facing till 5?! Thats possible? Safe? Mines 3 1/2 and been front facing since the weight allowed it. He was long/big and feet hung over, couldnt have done it till 5 and it be safe in my opinion. :)

Rear facing till 5?! Thats possible? Safe? Mines 3 1/2 and been front facing since the weight allowed it. He was long/big and feet hung over, couldnt have done it till 5 and it be safe in my opinion. :)

I don't see the hypocrisy. Rear-facing is the safest way for a baby to ride in the car. Proper co-sleeping is the safest way for a baby to sleep. Co-sleeping deaths are due to improper use, so your argument is invalid. While I'm at it, no, a forward-facing car seat will not cause an accident, but the results could be much worse. I'd rather have a child who cries in the car, than be crying at his funeral.

I don't see the hypocrisy. Rear-facing is the safest way for a baby to ride in the car. Proper co-sleeping is the safest way for a baby to sleep. Co-sleeping deaths are due to improper use, so your argument is invalid. While I'm at it, no, a forward-facing car seat will not cause an accident, but the results could be much worse. I'd rather have a child who cries in the car, than be crying at his funeral.

Maybe some UK mums can help me out here. In the UK it seems to be the norm to turn your baby round when they reach the correct weight (20lbs). I have not seen ONE rear facing car seat for the next weight up, all front facing. Reading all these threads about how dangerous it is are really stressing me out!! Madeleine is about at the limit for her current car seat (rear facing) and she's only 9 months. Any info from UK mums?

Maybe some UK mums can help me out here. In the UK it seems to be the norm to turn your baby round when they reach the correct weight (20lbs). I have not seen ONE rear facing car seat for the next weight up, all front facing. Reading all these threads about how dangerous it is are really stressing me out!! Madeleine is about at the limit for her current car seat (rear facing) and she's only 9 months. Any info from UK mums?

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