Yeah 11 is downhill, if I didn't throw so high and hit that branch an Ion could easily glide up to the basket.

At first I had a little trouble turning it, but I could make it hold an anhyzer. Played around with some hard, flat throws today and got some pretty nice right turning shots. Those are late in this video:

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It's noticeably less stable than the Vector. It's more like an Ion in that it will, for the most part, hold the line you put it on, just faster. A vector will fight out of a few degrees of anny much quicker than an Axis will. Notice the glide at 1:08. I'm probably going to play around with these sorts of shots tomorrow.

Innova rates the regular Roc 4 4 0 3
Based on that I'd say the Axis would be something along the lines of 5, 4.5, 0, 1.75

What about flight rating for Vector? I am curious. I am guessing 5 4 1 4

Straight mids:

Buzzz ?
Mako 4 5 0 0
MD2 4 5 0 2
MD1 4 4 0 2
Core 5 5 -1 1
Ibex ?

Understable mids:

Fuse 5 6 -2 1
Comet ?

I used to use Mako, then I switched to Core (Fuse, Core, Pain) and now I have Fuse, Core, Vector. Like other said here that Core is quite sensitive to headwinds and it looks like Axis would fight headwinds better than Core. We could get Axis close to zero fade with good spin and right speed (like Mike said that Axis is like a longer Ion which is great). Looks like I will have Fuse, Axis, Vector for my mids slot. Cannot wait!

At first I had a little trouble turning it, but I could make it hold an anhyzer. Played around with some hard, flat throws today and got some pretty nice right turning shots. Those are late in this video:

It is hard to see in video but I was wondering if you attempt to roll with Axis, especially the forehand roller?

It is hard to see in video but I was wondering if you attempt to roll with Axis, especially the forehand roller?

Yeah, there's a forehand roller in this video, and a few FH and BH rollers in this video. It makes a nice roller disc BH or FH, I just need to practice them more so I'm more familiar with how much to stand it up for the line I need.

If the Axis is about 5, 4.5, 0, 1.75.....I'd put the Vector about 5, 4, 0, 3.5. Vectors fade hard but they'll go dead straight for 350'+ for before the fade kicks in if I want them to. But I'm also not the best at pulling flights ratings out my...