In episode #78 of The Double Stop, host Brian Sword is joined by drummer Phil Varone (Saigon Kick, Skid Row).

Phil Varone discusses his life and career, from his early days and the history or Saigon Kick, the side effects of their hit “Love Is On The Way”, his issues with Saigon Kick’s management, and their breakup. Plus he discusses his '90s band with Skid Row bassist Rachel Bolan, Prunella Scales, and his time in Skid Row. We also cover his other endeavors such as stand-up comedy, writing and the adult film business (and why he left). He talks about his regrets over the documentary Wake Up Dead, the new book he’s writing on an undisclosed comedian, and his newly announced return to music.

On his Saigon Kick manager: “If I ever get a terminal illness and I know I'm dying, I'm gonna go kill the manager. He deserves to die. That's how much of a piece of shit he is. Outside of being a crook and a skumbag, he's just a piece of garbage.”

On the documentary Wake Up Dead: “It's something I regret doing. For me, it was done to hastily. I think I was in a mindset that was very much dark, and not anything that should have been shot.”

On his leaving the adult film business (and closing down his agency): “I just said I'm too good for this business. The porn business is the last stop on the train to nothing. I think it's a good business that if you go into it the right way you can make some money. But in general, it's unregulated as far as the business end of it, and it's the wild west."