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Make_PE3 Program to Create Portable Windows 7 PE

trizet

Posted 17 May 2010 - 08:41 AM

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hi wimb , thanks for your make_pe3.i made my own batch command to build PE3 without WAIK, using PE image from installation DVD/system repair and use your file list and registry.seems it was succesfully build.

just want to share some additional registry.

this one to make desktop background work on explorer shell (copy from winbuilder script)

sorry i forgot to mention, if you don't change wallpaper using wall-cmd, by default it will load x:\windows\system32\winpe.bmp (if using PE image from WAIK).mine will load setup.bmp (PE image from dvd/recovery)

wimb

Posted 18 May 2010 - 01:19 AM

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Hi trizet

Copy to / Move to and change FBWF to make larger scracth space are working OK.

But remove shortcut arrow does not work for me.

Desktop background is appearing with startnet.cmd ,but is replaced by darkblue desktop when Explorer Shell appears.Also I cannot Change background with jpg or bmp using Control panel.I can browse for folder, but no pictures appear and they cannot be selected.

trizet

Posted 18 May 2010 - 10:59 AM

Copy to / Move to and change FBWF to make larger scracth space are working OK.

But remove shortcut arrow does not work for me.

Desktop background is appearing with startnet.cmd ,but is replaced by darkblue desktop when Explorer Shell appears.Also I cannot Change background with jpg or bmp using Control panel.I can browse for folder, but no pictures appear and they cannot be selected.

Do you have a solution for Change background to work ?

did not work? strange.

what windows version do you use? mine 32bit.for control panel yes it is still does not work, you have to use wallcmd.exe to change background. thats why i put extra command in startnet.cmd to load wallpaper.jpg/wallpaper.bmp on the root of ufd. (you can make shorcut on start menu too)if you don't add any extra command, it will load grey winpe.bmp as default background.

add commands to yours Make_PE3 batch command to register those PE3-SYSTEM_CUSTOM.reg and PE3-SOFTWARE_CUSTOM.regadd those at last registry to be added, because (i think) yours clid also register shortcut arrow.

Goldenboy

Posted 19 May 2010 - 07:36 AM

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Hi trizet

Copy to / Move to and change FBWF to make larger scracth space are working OK.

But remove shortcut arrow does not work for me.

Desktop background is appearing with startnet.cmd ,but is replaced by darkblue desktop when Explorer Shell appears.Also I cannot Change background with jpg or bmp using Control panel.I can browse for folder, but no pictures appear and they cannot be selected.

Do you have a solution for Change background to work ?

did not work? strange.

what windows version do you use? mine 32bit.for control panel yes it is still does not work, you have to use wallcmd.exe to change background. thats why i put extra command in startnet.cmd to load wallpaper.jpg/wallpaper.bmp on the root of ufd. (you can make shorcut on start menu too)if you don't add any extra command, it will load grey winpe.bmp as default background.

add commands to yours Make_PE3 batch command to register those PE3-SYSTEM_CUSTOM.reg and PE3-SOFTWARE_CUSTOM.regadd those at last registry to be added, because (i think) yours clid also register shortcut arrow.

trizet

Posted 19 May 2010 - 11:33 AM

I can't configured a wallpaper with the Explorer shell but shortcut arrow is removed.

Do you have other solution ?

thanks

what windows version? and how you build your PE?those registry for windows 7 x86 (32bit), i can not test for 64 bit beacuse i dont have it.

sorry i did not post complete step because my post is meant for wimb, in case he can manage to get it works and integrates to his Make_PE3.however, if you interest to make it work, this is complete step.

1. download my PE3-SOFTWARE_CUSTOM.reg and PE3-SYSTEM_CUSTOM.reg , extract to folder: Make_PE3\PE3_mod\PE3_reg\x86if you are using others windows version, extract Make_PE3\PE3_mod\PE3_reg\ia64 or Make_PE3\PE3_mod\PE3_reg\amd64 , but i am not sure if it is work.

2. edit file Make_PE3\PE3_mod\PE3_add\x86\Windows\System32\startnet.cmd and add these lines (you can add commands before of after pstart command)

Goldenboy

Posted 19 May 2010 - 05:41 PM

I have another issue, I start PENetwork on boot but i need to click on Close button. Do you have tips to close automatically after network is loaded.

Thanks a lot !

I can't configured a wallpaper with the Explorer shell but shortcut arrow is removed.

Do you have other solution ?

thanks

what windows version? and how you build your PE?those registry for windows 7 x86 (32bit), i can not test for 64 bit beacuse i dont have it.

sorry i did not post complete step because my post is meant for wimb, in case he can manage to get it works and integrates to his Make_PE3.however, if you interest to make it work, this is complete step.

1. download my PE3-SOFTWARE_CUSTOM.reg and PE3-SYSTEM_CUSTOM.reg , extract to folder: Make_PE3\PE3_mod\PE3_reg\x86if you are using others windows version, extract Make_PE3\PE3_mod\PE3_reg\ia64 or Make_PE3\PE3_mod\PE3_reg\amd64 , but i am not sure if it is work.

2. edit file Make_PE3\PE3_mod\PE3_add\x86\Windows\System32\startnet.cmd and add these lines (you can add commands before of after pstart command)

Kullenen_Ask

Posted 20 May 2010 - 08:01 AM

IF NOT EXIST "%PETools%\%ARCH%\WinPE_OCs\Windows6.1-KB972831-x86.cab" ( IF NOT EXIST "%PETools%\%ARCH%\WinPE_FPs\Windows6.1-KB972831-x86.cab" (

lines in Make_PE3.cmd it is good and should fix but it couldn't find my wireless hotfix again is it only me that has that problem? it is in WinPE_FPs folder in there

leak side of winpe builders is they all use reg load/import reg/reg unload. for a successful registry editing need to keep registry ownerships. such a registry adding will add keys as the current user.systernals PsExec or something like that can be used to import registry keys as system user but it is not enough too. a sample ownership in system network key

i think the only way to solve it is working with registry hives. I want to hear your ideas about using hives else then using reg files???

want to give an example.

i see that you changed the way of clid.reg importing at boot to importing directly to software hive. it is very good improvement(i saw lots of improvements in last build last one month).my clean,not any modified makepe_3 and english iso not boots any after it doesnt give any errors but i like the way your program works.it stays at command shell and doesnt load explorer shell. i investigated a little and saw it didnt load clid.reg.

i looked to reg.exe command line options today and saw a "restore" option and made a little practice. forexample if we put PE3-SOFTWARE_CLID.hiv like PE3-SOFTWARE_CLID.reg and we run this commands in cmd file

is makes the same but also it keeps the ownerships (also classes hive has ownerships. i saw an example in a mediacenter key). using reg files are more easy to modify as txt files but using hive files more understandable at editing. i use a tool LOADHIVE.EXE loading hives making changes and unloading again. working in regedit makes editing more understandable then to work in txt file.

wimb

Posted 20 May 2010 - 08:52 AM

lines in Make_PE3.cmd it is good and should fix but it couldn't find my wireless hotfix again is it only me that has that problem? it is in WinPE_FPs folder in there

The lines were made to find in both cases the hotfix.If it does not work for you, please tell me what is the solution to your problem.What changes in the program are needed for you ?At the moment I don't see from here what is going wrong for you.Was it working OK when using WAIK as source ?

Your remaks about import of registry are certainly interesting.I need more study on how to use hives.Do you have more information or examples.

ludo

Posted 20 May 2010 - 09:18 AM

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Hello Wimb and Kullenen_Ask

@ Wimb :
I have read on VistaX64 forum a link with Desktop background and shortcut Arrow...
But i have lose the link
Maybe this link : http://www.vistax64....background.html
If you search, i think you can find the resolution of this problem
And if you want cosmetic update, you can ask your question to me

@ Kullenen_Ask :
Have you update your Port7PE project ?
Can you seen a video with WMP12, execute a MSI files, Net Files ?
I have access to change user in my pe, but when i change user (With StartMenu shortcut)i have no access to login screen; My PE become Busy...

Kullenen_Ask

Posted 20 May 2010 - 10:22 AM

The lines were made to find in both cases the hotfix.If it does not work for you, please tell me what is the solution to your problem.

i know made for that but it doesn't find? can be difference with cmd file and autoit file? solution can be add that hotfix same as like the other packages. all are same kind. it can find others will find wireless too.

Is autoit compiled version of Make_PE3.cmd? or it uses cmd file? are they same do same things in different ways? i didn't try to look solution i built without it. i want to change every file and make a modified version but i was scared when i see so many lines in cmd and so many works, maybe later when i feel myself enough consantrate. i didnt used it waik ever because everytime i decide to try it i had else version installed. i dont know why it didnt import clid.reg too i didnt change anything. only wanted to see what changed last one month. i made a small wim with sidebar, explorer, available networks, working network icon, possiblity to change screen resolution and wallpaper from control panel in 182mb wim will give the file list i added. but i couldnt get it take automatic ip. also i can give every registry key for desktop, sidebar and automatic working volume icon but they are very clear to see and will be lots of keys. i shared my experinces about hives with you but none of them used any from them. my services key works in every language wim and works with nearly all services and doesnt crash any if you dont have sys files too. over 60 services can work in 182mb wim. but they use lots of ram and maybe better like makepe3 this state.

Your remaks about import of registry are certainly interesting.I need more study on how to use hives.Do you have more information or examples.

it was a very short look by the time i wrote them. i made only one sample by myself too. can focus more and explain more how to use. but i am sure ownerships is a must for to development of such projects.

Have you update your Port7PE project ? focused on embedded now. i added packages made winpe. but i saw that there isnt more changes and more options then i had until now with port7pe.

Can you seen a video with WMP12?no i didnt. only works with irfanview. i can watch with it.

i didnt add the list of other files like spool folder and in program files. but only with these i have working all in the picture in 182mb. also i have 3mb procmon and serviwin in it and 55 services working. with only adding dll files with looking from services regisry entries you can work all other services. also wwan working. if doesnt need can remove all its files. can change desktop wallpaper with selecting an image right click and set as wallpaper or from control panel. or change resolution from display control panel. doesnt change theme but there are themes in it also. only missing is i cant get network work fully. probably because it can not decide the rules for home or public networking. some registry missing. tonight i have seen first that it can change user too. i didnt try before i post here. it doesnt close session. when change user system user stays open and i think it makes conflicts and administrator doesnt have rights to install drivers or run sidebar(probably same time system user running sidebar too) it is not looks possible with working reg files because of ownerships. also i understood that adding all packages have disadvantages then the advantages. if add pppoe and wireless packages it adds also winsxs folders and gets wim bigger. also for them to work need configras and configdot3svc work at startup with wpeutil initialize network. if add only nearly 10 files in cab package to system32 folder and import telephony registry keys into hives rasman rasauto sstpsvc works more smooth. same for dot3svc package. but wmi and hta package need i think.

isn't there improvement about en-us strings in add files txt files for different languages? need change them manually yet?

wimb

Posted 21 May 2010 - 02:14 AM

isn't there improvement about en-us strings in add files txt files for different languages? need change them manually yet?

Thanks for the filelist. I will try to use it for adding extra features.

I have found in AutoIt3 program the cause of the Error message about missing hotfix.It will be repaired in next version.If you just Continue then the hotfix is found. The Error is only in giving the message.

It is not needed anymore to change en-US strings.Make_PE3 programs support sources with different language and will find the files.

wimb

Posted 21 May 2010 - 07:32 AM

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*** Update of Make_PE3 package to Create Portable Windows 7 PE ***

Added Install of Network (and some other) Drivers by driver_fix.cmd batch program launched from Desktop icon
Auto launch by startnet.cmd is possible, but adds extra boottime of 30 sec which seems to be acceptable

Cleanup of the list of needed Windows 7 files (see file WIN7_add_explor.txt)
The reduction allowed to merge Explorer and Audio into one option Explorer=YES

Added Custom registry settings at build time and use of Custom wallpaper (thanks to trizet)
More Info see file Customize_Info.txt in folder Make_PE3\PE3_modhttp://www.msfn.org/...ws-t143529.html

wimb

Posted 21 May 2010 - 09:01 AM

The Remove Shortcut Arrow tweak has an unwanted sideeffect:using Manage in context menu of Computer desktop icon does NOT work anymore.

This tweak is removed in the latest build.

Surprisingly Wallpaper Desktop is working when booting with pe3_x86.iso fromgrub4dos menu on harddisk where Windows 7 resides. Previously the ISO was booting from grub4dos menu on second harddisk where XP resides and in that case the wallpaper disappeared as soon as Explorer Shell is starting.

Kullenen_Ask

Posted 21 May 2010 - 04:17 PM

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i discovered that because of a problem in my modem or maybe a vmware problem also my physical machine didnt taking dhcp automatic ip adresses. after i fix itnetwork icon fully works and takes automatic ip adress(discovered not a build wim error) same wim works with network support now. i dont have a wireless card and can not test if wireless cards can set with available network control panel.

Kullenen_Ask

Posted 22 May 2010 - 01:22 AM

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\windows\system32\wwanapi.dll what is the connection of wireless wan with screen resolution? mydocs and searchfolder are must files for windows explorer for to browse and select files. wwanapi and wwapi shouldnt be need they are wireless wan. crt.dll should be need for screen resolution but it was big as i remember. i put all *coinstaller.dll files because they need for driver install.

didnt look one by one certain but

(IconCodecService.dllMagnification.dllPhotoMetadataHandler.dllWcsPlugInService.dllwiaservc.dllWindowsCodecsExt.dllsti.dllsti_ci.dllstobject.dllicm32.dllicmui.dll) need for image and thumbcache.dll need for see thumbnails

wimb

Posted 22 May 2010 - 01:49 AM

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I saved an Optimize Profile just after only using Screen Resolution.
On comparing it with Profile for not using Screen Resolution,
I found these files as needed for using Screen resolution.
But I agree that it might quite well be that it still contains some unneeded files.
Testing will take more time .....

Kullenen_Ask

Posted 22 May 2010 - 01:53 AM

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I saved an Optimize Profile just after only using Screen Resolution.On comparing it with Profile for not using Screen Resolution,I found these files as needed for using Screen resolution.But I agree that it might quite well be that it still contains some unneeded files.Testing will take more time .....

Anyway Screen Resolution is working now without adding only few files.

Thanks for list of files needed for image and photo.

only that improvement? no more? need more registry keys then. if need wwansvc. need wwansvc folder in programdata. need HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WwanSvc it can work then. also should be in services and svchost registry related wwankeys.