On a related note, did anyone hear the frankly stunning interview with Ingrid Loyau-Kennett on PM on R4 last night? Describing the aftermath of the Lee Rigby murder, where she was one of the first on the scene, with gut wrenching clarity and calm. She's apparently suffering with PTSO now, but sounded so strong with it. I wish her every good fortune.

On a related note, did anyone hear the frankly stunning interview with Ingrid Loyau-Kennett on PM on R4 last night? Describing the aftermath of the Lee Rigby murder, where she was one of the first on the scene, with gut wrenching clarity and calm. She's apparently suffering with PTSO now, but sounded so strong with it. I wish her every good fortune.

Yes. Incredible. I was in the car in traffic and sat in awed silence, before exclaiming to everyone and no-one that she's a *** hero.

I had a short ginger angry Scotsman point a revolver at me in a hotel bar in Kirkcudbright once while he told the 2 girls he was trying to impress that he'd put the drinks on my room. I'd had enough to drink not to worry but not enough to do anything stupid. I just nodded and then ignored him.

do what they do in the movies and somehow move my head just as the trigger is pulled.....then roundhouse kick agent smith in the head and go and make sweet lovin to carrie anne moss - then wake up in hospital with all my brain matter missing.

Yes. Incredible. I was in the car in traffic and sat in awed silence, before exclaiming to everyone and no-one that she's a *** hero.

What a wonderful woman.

Indeed. I was listening on the train, mouth wide open in awe at her calm strength. As above, it's people like her, and the mother and daughter Amanda Donnelly and Gemma Donnelly-Martin for whom the George Cross was made.

He was interviewed on the TV this morning (in USA) and he seemed like a quite unassuming guy who just reacted. He said that he definitely wouldn't do it again and he was on the same bus the next day. Still very cool!

That guy is a dude! Had to watch it again to spot the ipod stowing mid fight. Years ago I was accosted in Moss Side at 2am on way home with a young lady who I'd met in a club and was obviously drunker than I was as she'd agreed to accompany me home.

Two guys lept out from behind a parked van. One had a gun. No idea if it was a replica, it looked pretty real. I just said that we'll give you what you want and no trouble, lets get this over and done with as quick as possible. They took my watch (worthless), my wallet (empty, hence why I was walking around MS at 2am) and her purse (turns out she'd had £20 which she's kept shtum about when I'm bemoaning lack of money for a cab). Then the guy who didn't have the gun started making salacious remarks about the girl and whether she might prefer alternative male company to me. I though shite and fixed guy with the gun with a glance, said we'd given them what they wanted and that we're going to go home now, grabbed the girl and started walking. All the time thinking any moment now...

Annoyingly I had to walk past my own front door (no point in showing them the house where I lived). Firtunately they sodded off, but my post club fun and games was ruined.

A gun is a long range weapon and up close up its not that hard to quickly deflect the gun - they dont expect an attack either- then hit them [ eyes throat groin IMHO] but it is just not worth the risk as you will likely end up dead if it goes wrong

Same with a knife I know what to do if I have to but I am only doing it if they actually swing at me as its still a knife.

Move quickly forward a step, at the same time taking the attacker's gun arm over the right shoulder with the left hand whilst moving the right hand to encircle the waist. Put the hip and right foot through then turn smoothly left and down, taking the attacker to the ground over the hip.

Pummel until ready.

Or apply pressure to the neck under the jawline with "leopard-paw" strike until you hear the scream for mercy, if you're feeling "humanitarian"...

Deep down I would really want to do what that guy did, but I would have tried hard to stop myself because I know I shouldn't.

When burglars broke into my garage I didn't think of ANYTHING at all, I went tearing down the stairs and tried to get out of the door. Not sure if I would have done anything really violent or not, but I might've given how fired up I was and how little conscious thought was happening.

I've done a certain amount of training in disarming people with firearms and pointy things but have only had to use it on 2 people with knives. The gist of it is to move quickly off line and get in close and to the side/rear. There's a big variety of techniques for either taking the weapon or turning it to face its owner. I reckon they can be effective if the person doing it is confident and well practiced. And lucky.

Faced with a firearm I'd do as I was told unless a very clear opportunity arose to take action. Same with a knife.

Yossarian - I can imagine grabbing the gun and moving out of the way, which would lead to a struggle - not sure how that would end up. But I'd be afraid on a crowded bus that someone'd end up squeezing the trigger and shooting someone else.

I think I'd rather face a gun up close than a knife, the thought of getting cut/stabbed makes me feel pretty queasy, but I've always been around guns (albeit legal ones, shotguns, rifles and the odd pistol), so they don't scare me so much for some reason. I've had a knife since I was a pretty young kid too, but there's jsut something about cutting human flesh that I don't like the idea of.......

I'd like to think I'd react and disable/disarm someone, but the reality is I'd probably be very diplomatic/patronising and do whatever they wanted.