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Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

I would say Obama does want a shut down since he refuses to meet with the GOP

well, it's not like Democrats have been exactly low-key on the fact that they consider a government shut-down to be politically advantageous to them.

Originally Posted by DemonMyst

So what is poor to you?? Or do you even have a clue??

According to the government’s own surveys, the typical “poor” American has cable or satellite TV, two color TVs, and a DVD player or VCR. He has air conditioning, a car, a microwave, a refrig*erator, a stove, and a clothes washer and dryer. He is able to obtain medical care when needed. His home is in good repair and is not overcrowded. By his own report, his family is not hungry, and he had sufficient funds in the past year to meet his family’s essential needs. While this individual’s life is not affluent, it is far from the images of dire poverty conveyed by liberal activists and politicians.

Various government reports contain the following facts about persons defined as “poor” by the Census Bureau:

Nearly 40 percent of all poor households actu*ally own their own homes. On average, this is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio.

Eighty-four percent of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, in 1970, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.

Nearly two-thirds of the poor have cable or satellite TV.

Only 6 percent of poor households are over*crowded; two-thirds have more than two rooms per person.

The typical poor American has as much or more living space than the average individual living in most European countries. (These comparisons are to the average citizens in foreign countries, not to those classified as poor.)

Nearly three-quarters of poor households own a car; 31 percent own two or more cars.

Ninety-eight percent of poor households have a color television; two-thirds own two or more color televisions.

Eighty-two percent own microwave ovens; 67 percent have a DVD player; 73 percent have a VCR; 47 percent have a computer.

The average intake of protein, vitamins, and minerals by poor children is indistinguishable from that of children in the upper middle class. Poor boys today at ages 18 and 19 are actually taller and heavier than middle-class boys of similar age were in the late 1950s. They are a full inch taller and ten pounds heavier than the GIs who stormed the beaches of Normandy during World War II....

now, we do have some actual poor in this country. but by any historical or world standard?

I've been "poor" (in that my family qualified for government aid etc). When I was "poor" I had an apartment, two vehicles, was able to feed my family, and even had a few dollars left over at the end of the (most months) month to sock into savings. I've been overseas (heck, I am overseas) - my lifestyle as a "poor" person in America was way above average for this ole world.

Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

It is Fox News so it should be gospel to you.. Poverty is an issue.. You talk about cutting spending?? How about getting these people to work and educated so they aren't a burdon to society?? Instead of cutting benefits and making even more poor people..

Amen. Can we count on you for education reform to allow poor children to escape failing school systems then? How about reducing the regulatory burden and costs of employment so that we can get more people working?

Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

Originally Posted by randel

you are a citizen of this country, you enjoy the benefits of its infrastructure, you drive on its roads, enjoy the use of its water/sewage systems, enjoy the protection of its armed forces(God bless them), enjoy police and fire protection, enjoy the state/national parks.....guess what, these all cost money, which is raised in the form of taxes, local, state, and federal. you, and several others here can piss, bitch and moan all you like about taxes, personally, i think each and everyone of us gets one hell of a deal.

Especially those of us who pay nothing right?

j-mac

Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.
Alexis de Tocqueville

Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

It is Fox News so it should be gospel to you.. Poverty is an issue.. You talk about cutting spending?? How about getting these people to work and educated so they aren't a burdon to society?? Instead of cutting benefits and making even more poor people..

Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

Originally Posted by DemonMyst

So your basing your entire arguement on the fact that he went to a fund raiser instead of having lunch with turtle man?? ROFL!! One person hardly qualifies as the GOP, and I can list off a few occasions when the GOP snubbed their noses at the president?? You let me know when a democrat calls a republican president a liar during a state of the Union address.. Then you might have something to say.. Until then you are just a troll trying to appear releavant..

Get a clue dude!! I wouldn't want to have lunch with him.. So where is the part about a shut down?? Again?? You still flapping in the wind..

Obama shows his re-election is more important than the debt ceiling. You may give him a pass but I say he is incompetent and not meeting his obligations as President.

Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

Originally Posted by Thunder

um...WHO walked out of the debt talks?

That has nothing to do with Obama. The walk out was a cooling period. Obama makes a speech and tells congress not to go on vacation. Then Obama refuses to talk to the GOP and goes on vacation. What a hypocrite he is.

Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

Originally Posted by ptif219

Obama shows his re-election is more important than the debt ceiling. You may give him a pass but I say he is incompetent and not meeting his obligations as President.

ok, republicans are showing that trying to screw obama is more important than the economic health of the country...you may give them a pass, but i say they are incompetent and not meeting their obligations as senators/representatives.

Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

Originally Posted by randel

ok, republicans are showing that trying to screw obama is more important than the economic health of the country...you may give them a pass, but i say they are incompetent and not meeting their obligations as senators/representatives.

Wrong they are trying to get spending under control. The democrats want to keep the checkbook open