"it is revealed that Captain America, Steve Rogers, was always Hydra…because originally Hydra (and thus, the Nazis) won World War II. The Allies, in a last ditch attempt, use a Cosmic Cube to alter reality so that Hydra and the Nazis lose, and that is the Marvel Universe we know. A world that was artificially fabricated by the Allies, including a truly Allies-loyal Cap (possibly because the Allies never learned of his deception?). And thus, when Kobik turned Cap to Hydra, she was actually awakening his true self from the original timeline before the Allies changed everything, and thus allowing Rogers to restore Hydra to its ‘rightful’ position."

I'm along for the ride because I believe it won't last, and the nature of comics allows for these kinds of temporary deviations, but it shouldn't stick. Cap represents something about the better aspects of humanity that is substantially tarnished if his hero persona comes about artificially.

"it is revealed that Captain America, Steve Rogers, was always Hydra…because originally Hydra (and thus, the Nazis) won World War II. The Allies, in a last ditch attempt, use a Cosmic Cube to alter reality so that Hydra and the Nazis lose, and that is the Marvel Universe we know. A world that was artificially fabricated by the Allies, including a truly Allies-loyal Cap (possibly because the Allies never learned of his deception?). And thus, when Kobik turned Cap to Hydra, she was actually awakening his true self from the original timeline before the Allies changed everything, and thus allowing Rogers to restore Hydra to its ‘rightful’ position."

It is actually interesting. Certainly no worse as a pure concept than "DOCTOR OCTOPUS IS SPIDER-MAN NOW", but there's something about Cap having ORIGINALLY been Hydra that is just... not right. After decades, he never had a typical comics moment of shaking off his programming? Seems weird.

People just like to complain about change. Most of them don't even read comics anymore.

Not necessarily. Some changes are fine, but others, namely the ones that take a massive shit on establishedcontinuity, including things that have always been integral to the character : when those things are tamperedwith, its completely justifiable for people to get upset and complain about them.

The whole, "After all this time, X is not really X but is in fact X all along!" is not an original concept, and hasn'tbeen ever since fiction started. Sometimes it can work (see Terra from Teen Titans), other times, it just can'twork (see The Maximoff Twins).

Mostly because once you do the "X is really X and not X", it raises a whole set of questions, and consideringhow long its been, it massively contradicts the status quo, from back when it started to now. And moreso, itends up ruining the characters involved.

Mephisto will always be one of the most retarded villains in comics, because apparently, he has the ability towarp history/reality on a massive scale, and used this ability...to nullify a marriage. Not to counter any losshe's ever had, effectively making himself unbeatable. No, let me just stop one single marriage.

This crap is just as fucking bullshit as the whole "Tony Stark was not a real Stark" retardation story. Or thatMjolnor is powered by a sentient thunderstorm from space (god it gets dumber and dumber every time Iam forced to hear it).

If this was a rebooted universe (which Marvel needs to seriously fucking do already), then fine. This is a new U,they can do whatever they want with it. But since they keep bringing in these writers with their fan fiction garbageand messing with established things that shouldn't be messed with, it is absolutely infuriating.

Pointless complaints are people who complained that the new Ms. Marvel is muslim. A justifiable complaint istheir changing the twins to having been inhumans all along.

Professor X is really a human who gathered the X-Men together to keep mutants under control.

Black Panther is really Adolf Hitler, who used plastic surgery to make himself look like a member of the Wakandan royal family, knowing that the Allies would never look for him there.

Batman is secretly the true head of organized crime in Gotham. He conducts mob business as Bruce Wayne, using his companies as front for illegal activities, and uses his Batman identity to eliminate the competition.

There have been plenty of comics since their run where the covers used to sensationalize what wasin the issue. Your comic covers that said, "Not a hoax! In this issue X will die!" Or "This will changeX forever!" Most of the time, they were never really true, it's what sold the issue.

So then how is this different?

Mostly because neither one of those instances took a shit on established continuity. None of themever did anything that was really outrageous. Not until much later years where the writers hadbasically free reign to do whatever the fuck they wanted. Which is something you really REALLYshouldn't give your writers.

So just doing whatever the fuck shit just to keep interest isn't exciting. Or creative. Or original.It's just lazy, pathetic, and disrespectful to the creators & writers beforehand who treated thematerial with respect.

Not only does it shit on continuity, it shits on the character. Captain America is a hero. He's not perfect, he can make mistakes, but at the end of the day he's supposed to be the kind of character that the reader can look at and say, "He's one of the good guys." And they make him a fucking Nazi.

And they do with all their other characters. Characters that fans just happen to enjoy reading about. Does Marvel think it's an accident that Thor, Captain America, Iron Man and the like have had such long-lasting fan support?

Fucking edgelords. Like I said, this would make more sense in a "What If?" In fact, there WAS a "What If?" in which Cap was a Nazi (gasp!), except his inherent decentness made him do the right thing in the end. That's how you tell an alternate reality story with an established character while still respecting them.

It a fucking story arc. nothing more. and its an obvious meta commentary on the alt right/Trump ascendacy, as a well as at least a reference to one of the greatest stories in speculative fiction by one of its most insightful creative talents, currently a critically acclaimed Streaming show. it a comemntary on the Zeitgeist of the times froma liberal perspective. Conceptually, at least, there is nothing wrong with this as a temporary stats quo change, to be reverted back to the classic version as we all know it will be. Does ANYONE genunely believe this will be permament?