I am taking the plunge.. I am buying Trehalose by the pound and use it as in the olden days as a sugar to sweeten my life again..

Why pine over lost fruit, srinks that tase sweet. heck I might even like Green tea if it had sugar flavor in it. I am plunging deep, two pounds at least, or evem 4 for others in the family. I mean even without the wonderful effects of the D-Ribose.. plain Trehalose has so many promises... I am a beliver that if I could have 'sweet' tasting things in my life again, after 40 years of avoiding such, I might have a life in my old age tiime..

NOW: the question... where to buy it? for best Quality.. would Dr D be able to know about certain purities or places where to start looking for Trehalose by the pound!.. ??????

I mean cinnamon and Trehalose on ezekiel bread.. with butter or ghee... Yummmm

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I have Swanson's 100% pure plain trehalose. Works well for baking or adding to any food. AlthoughDPN TC is an awesome health enhancing product, if you're thinking of using trehalose instead of sugar, I think you'll be happy with this Swanson's product.

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Does anyone see which Trehalose is used by Dr D .. the mushroom kind or other type? I would not want it to be from corn..

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Goldie,Be careful about using too much - I believe I remember that you've said something about being borderline diabetic and some people have commented that it raises their blood sugar. Maybe you should discuss it with Dr. D or someone at DPN. Jane

In a study of potential adverse effects, 60 healthy volunteers were given 50 g of trehalose in 400 ml of water after an overnight fast. No abdominal symptoms of diarrhoea were reported (Bolte et al., 1973).

In a study in which 10 volunteers were given a single dose of 25 g of trehalose in 200 ml of water 1 h after breakfast, there was no reported diarrhoea or other abdominal symptoms (Heine et al., 1996).

In an investigation of the laxative dose of trehalose, 20 female students were given a single daily dose of trehalose in 200 ml of solution 2–3 h after a meal. The dose of trehalose was increased gradually from 10 to 20, 30, 40, 50, and 60 g per treatment. The indigestible disaccharide lactulose was used as a positive control. The physical condition and gastrointestinal symptoms of all subjects were recorded before and after treatment. Half of the subjects had no gastrointestinal symptoms, even at the highest dose tested (60 g), whereas lactulose caused diarrhoea in 75% of subjects after ingestion of 40 g. Both trehalose and lactulose caused high prevalences of abdominal symptoms including flatulence, distension, and borborygmus, but the effects of lactulose were significantly more severe than those of trehalose at the same dose. While there was significant variation between individuals, the threshold dose for transitory laxation was estimated to be 0.65 g/kg bw for trehalose and 0.26 g/kg bw for lactulose (Oku & Okazaki, 199.

In a study of the absorption of trehalose, 30 healthy adults (15 of each sex) were given trehalose at a single oral dose of 10, 20, 30, or 40 g. The concentrations of hydrogen gas in expired air and of glucose in blood were measured before and every 30 min after administration for 3 h. Subjects were considered to be suffering from malabsorption if the hydrogen gas concentration in expired air increased by more than 20 ppm from the standard value. The subjects were also examined for gastrointestinal symptoms (malabsorption, abdominalgia, laxation, abdominal dysphoria, and crepetus). The rates of malabsorption of trehalose were 0%, 40%, 43%, and 75% at 10, 20, 30, and 40 g, respectively, while the rates of gastrointestinal symptoms were 0%, 40%, 43%, and 50%. Malabsorption was found in more than half of the subjects given 40 g of trehalose. While no racial differences in the ability to absorb trehalose were seen between Mongoloid (Japanese), white, and black individuals, the Japanese had a significantly higher incidence of gastrointestinal symptoms (Ushijima et al., 1995).

I understand the greatness of Trehalose, to be that, diabetics have no spike in insulin sugar reaction... understanding that it is a sugar but not a sugar with three legs but two - therefore the body does not recognize it as a sugar..

This freedom to have a sweet tasting thing is my wish to replace other needs for sweets. Instead of a sweet drink or some other drink (avoid coffee) then Lime and teahouse as lemonade might be a great alternative...

for ice-cream needs, if it is wanting something 'cold' then the drink above can be chilled with ice and be quite effective in replacing a mental 'dependency... at least that is where I am

For much info look for the thread with over a thousand answers... This thread should not be the start of a new long thread for TC - but for the plain form.

I think egg omelets with plain [T sprinkled on it might be replacing my grandmothers recipe without sugar fears. Spreading it on grapefruit or rice pudding ahh... loads of fun

Another place it might work is in making some meat more tender if sprinkled on it during steaming with veggies, or even make it taste real sweet as in some Chinese foods which generally are loaded with sugar.

It's worth looking to add sweetness back into my (diabetic deprived) sugarfree life.

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I'm shaking my head at this. I know that when I start to crave sugar (or sweet things) my body is telling me to get more sleep. The article that Chloe linked to validates this.

I can get to the point where I'm eating white table sugar out of the canister. I'll rationalize it by telling myself I need to remove the big clumps. I don't tell myself that I can also remove the big clumps by breaking them up with the spoon.

Goldie, have you ever had a sleep study done? Could you have sleep apnea or other disorder that prevents you from falling into a deep, restorative sleep? Your post is extremely disturbing. How would you react to a close friend that wanted to buy 500 pounds of butter for herself all in one shot?

My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant. Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index. DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.

I don't think I have ever known a diabetic in my life who didn't crave sugar to some degree. Some a lot more than others to the point that they refused to give it up. My grandfather was one of them. He loved lemonade. There was a drugstore in town that served fresh lemonade made to order, and the woman making it knew exactly how he liked it - very sweet! Of course, she had no idea that he was diabetic. Every time he went in there he had a small glass of that lemonade! He died in his early seventies with a heart attack. But I don't think it was from the lemonade, necessarily, because my grandmother made delicious fruit cobblers with plenty of butter and sugar - how could anyone who craved sugar resist one of those right under their nose? My grandfather only became diabetic in his late sixties, so she wasn't used to cooking for someone who needed to avoid sugar. She ate the same way he did and lived to be ninety-five..... Healthy as could be too. There is no way to figure some of this stuff out. But there were no preservatives, no insecticides, no GMO, etc., but lots of fresh vegetables, fruits and home grown poultry, beef, etc..

Chloe, I don't think Goldie means to eat a pound of Trehalose in a day!

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Chloe, I don't think Goldie means to eat a pound of Trehalose in a day!

, I'm quite sure you're correct, however, let me just say this. I wonder if anyone else hasexperienced this. Prior to feeling balanced from following my SWAMI, I used to have deep cravingsfor things like chocolate covered coffee beans, a particular brand of gluten free pretzels, a particular baked potato chip...and when I saw that my "stash" of any of these items was gettingrather low, I'd immediately have to stock up with large amounts of back up because there wasthis physical and/or mental craving I found almost to be comforting and it was comfortcombined with a fear that there could be a snowstorm and WHAT? I'd be without mychocolate covered coffee bean fix...

So....when my SWAMI was printed out and I realized that my once chocolate covered coffee beans were now half beneficial and half toxic, I had to go cold turkey. OK, nobody who is in love with a chocolate covered coffee bean is going to be satisfied with just thecrunchy bean. Chocolate was now a toxin.... Weeks of slowly withdrawing....one food at a time until suddenly, I realized I had forgotten completely about these foods. My body and mind nolonger needed chocolate or my beloved gluten free pretzels laden with corn.

And SquarePeg points out a true issue I had prior to my immune system settling itself down. Ihad sleep problems. I was waking up after sleeping a few hours and was wide awake. With theaddition of melatonin, compliance with SWAMI and now sleeping 8 normal hours without waking up, I felt more balanced.

To me, something is out of balance and the body needs to find its equilbrium if there is a strong urge to keep thinking about a particular food or food group. I feel this way about dairy....if I eat it, I need to start stock piling cheese. My husband has called me a cheese hoarder before...but, If I don't eat it, cheese is off my radar screen. And I can see cheese, talk about cheese, but cheesevirtually means nothing to me.

I really think the point is to question what we need to find balance so cravings are calmed down. Where is the tipping point? What could be improved upon in the diet, with exercise, with making sure one gets enough fluids.

Many times when we're thirsty we think we're hungry. I know many diabetics and yes, they seemto want sugar....but I've also read that the artificial sugars that don't raise blood sugar somehowcause the same sugar cravings as those who eat sugar and exhibit the highs and lows of bloodsugar fluctuations. My daughter in law puts Splenda in everything. You'd think that would quenchher desire for sweets. It doesn't. She always wants sweets. She isn't diabetic but her dad is type2..... So wondering about the fact that maybe more than a smalldose of Trehalose every day could cause the same sugar cravings as real sugar or artificial sweeteners.

Just something to think about.

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I own sugar only for guest and use less than a pound in a year or two...

I do not cook any foods that are sweetened... No fruit only here and there some pineapple chunks.

I am not craving sugar... more so taste from different foods... Like scoop of icecream, like bananas when at my sis.., like chocolate, or more like nuts in chocolates...

I have a very hard time drinking... water... making lime aide sweeter will help to drink water... a good thing.

As for rice things, or foods that might be gooey, so seldom I don't even remember, but having that personal freedom to have it, might be very relaxing.

Sleep is on issue I have to go to the bathroom at least every 90 min or at the very seldom most of 3 hours... sleep is interrupted ... yes I am tired, but more because of the loss of the nephew, my brother a month ago, and life just the way it presents itself to me. I am in pain from my shoulder I damaged doing volunteer work and my foot from falling off a ladder three times and always on to the same foot. The headaches I get for 6 hours sometimes every day or in the middle of the night are no fun. I could be suffering from fibromyalgia, or worse, spastic legs, but I keep that under control... my shoulders are getting re-damaged every night since I like to fall asleep in my side even with 5 pillows everywhere.... so = a vicious cycle..

So a spoon full of sweetness might be a reward I can get... at 25 dollars a pound I think I will not outlive it all. I expect to live a long time, but being dead earlier would be just fine, there is not much to be gained or offer with old age,,, speaking knowing that I will live to 96... Ha-ha...

Then again I did say I might share my two pounds with others, so no worry... but for you who crave suagr... I feel for you... with me its more reminescing for flavors of my youth... I could quicker crave a salami sandwich on rye...

I just cleaned out all my drawers, all my projects of old and all my things I could not list to give to a person with a name.. I feel this is important at my age.. I will not finish these things or projects or social projects, time to chuck them all.. time for changes..

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Goldie, since you mentioned having sugar for guests, I happened to think that I don't even know where my sugar is, for goodness sake, except what is in a small sugar bowl! I hardly know anyone who uses sugar anymore! I have not bought any sugar in years. I never, ever cook with it.

I think you did yourself and someone else an awesome favor cleaning out your drawers and giving your things away! What a relief to get that behind you! I have a friend who thinks that one of the best things she can think of in a house is an empty drawer!! That is definitely some prized real estate! There was a time when she had a six thousand square foot house with not a single inch in it available for use! When they downsized, she found tons of stuff she didn't even know she owned! Like twenty sets of sheets still in packages, for instance! The work involved in getting rid of all that stuff was mind blowing.

The only thing I can think of right now that I keep on hand, just in case of this or that, is a bit of a Unibar in my purse in case I have a drop in blood sugar when I am out and haven't eaten at my regular time. I do not like that feeling AT ALL, especially when I am in the middle of a big store. I remember some time ago checking out at a grocery store and had an episode. I told the clerk that I was having a problem just in case I literally passed out, and she immediately told me that she had something I could have that she kept with her all the time for the same reason. I didn't want to take hers in case she needed it herself, and I made it to my car all right. But I did have a Unibar there that I could eat. From then on, I have kept something in my purse.

"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." -- Benjamin Franklin

Yes food for hypoglycemic is of utmost importance... the feeling of loosing control is mierable... keeping food in the car is not such a good idea, better in the purse...

I think the feeling of overwhelming... gittery or some other thing, like totally dropping all self control is a big problem... you might try taking a spoon of extra light oil twice or trice a day.,. It seems to do wonders for my brain and my intestines... I am so happy I read the Shangry-la diet book on line. It settled so much about hunger, and need for oil.

I am pleased to have had the use of a U-Haul yesterday, someone who was moving his apartment needed it, I made use of it by moving all my old files and about 300 VCR tapes. I miss them they had such good stuff on them... but by the time I would be without a TV they will have all things on computer... all I need is google it...

Then also I did loads of community projects, well I am not going there again... age allows me to become lazyier... Out went the files... and when I saw how the trash is handled at the transfere station, then all my worries about privacy went by the way side... Garbage is quite on operation. By the time I had enough space in the truck we also picked up accumulated building trash from one of my nephews and together we had over a ton of stuff... 90.- was just right.. For trash never to be fretted over ever again... what a load of things of the past. My Niece thought that was the biggest Xmas present... hahaha... perfect!

I had a house fire a long time ago, I never replaced all things per se- only bought pretty things... as for sheets, well two sets is enough for any one.. A third is pure luxury. I love the old wash and wear sheets from the good old days... I use them rather than the new kind that need ironing... ridiqulous!

I have lovely embroidered table clothes and crochet bedspreads and table clothes none fit my life any more, I wish I had others to share them with... someone who would really like them and care for them... so much work goes into them..

I used to like to make coffee time, and sugar in a bowl, but no more, my sugar would all clump together I use it so seldom.. The boys use it more than the girls... they like it sweet. Ha-ha.

I am really exited at making a half gallon juice bottle full of lime and water and two spoons of TC and shake... it makes for a good days worth of fluid.. and looks manageable, like buying grapefruit juice in a bottle... but much healthier... I even use fresh limes now!!

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Oh, tablecloths.... I used to LOVE them. I have a few drawers full of them, but there is only one that I use now and then. Life does change, doesn't it?! I think I like this change very, very well, though!

Your drink sounds delicious, just wish I could deal with the citrus. Maybe some day....

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Oh I use very little... half a linme/// could be grapefruit also... or just carrot juice?? I am not spoiled any more... I am a reductionist... nearly nothing anymore to please my palet... diabetes took all fun out of life/eating and dringking...

3 oz (100gr) meat and veggies makes for a BIG rush.... onions on some day's...mmmh learned to love them browned. Sometimes with grated parmesan cheese...WOW - Jeppidy do that...!

I should stop eating eggs for breakfast... at least cut down to one egg... but it’s a habit...

And when I cheat as I have been, then .5 pd a day more in weight...

And now lime in water and a spoon of TC... what a treat...

The Oil is what keeps me on even keel... menatlly as well as in my belly... all the difference in the world... but I am O.. ...

Spring I love your posts they are always fresh...

Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!

The power of suggestion. When mentioning limes in your past few posts, it didn't register as somethingI'd want to use, Goldie, but as soon as I walked into the health food store this evening, first thing I looked for was limes. Bought a small bag.... The thought of lime-ade sounded so appealing when you described it slightly sweetened. I might use honey or agave but limes are as beneficial for me as lemons....Just had limes on my mind after reading this thread and decided "limes are exactly what I want".

I just put my trehalose complex into grapefruit juice. I believe Dr. D said that's what he does in his blog about TC when DPN first started selling it.

I do buy the WFs 365 brand mineral water with lime. It comes either in the big bottles or in a six pack. Although it's packaged in plastic bottles which I know I should be avoiding it's convenient for me and as a result I drink it. Take one for golf or sometimes to work, have some when I get home from work. I like it room temperature. It's a very good O thing - good for naturally acidic systems.

Chloe, it has always been a mystery to me that some people don't think Trehalose is sweet! Maybe it has something to do with it being plain Trehalose which I have not tried yet???

I'm sitting here right now with the remains of my lime/trehalose water and it tastes exactly as if allI added was lime juice to the water. Yet, I've tried eating trehalose off a spoon and it's very mildlysweet but certainly nowhere close to being a satisfying sweet flavor. I can't even imagine how muchit would take to sweeten something in a baked recipe. Yet, when I cook down dates to make a thickpuree which subs for sugar in muffins, the result to me is sweet. And a few squirts of agave syrupin my muffin in a mug imparts sweetness... So it's not like I can't taste sweetness. I find trehalose rather bland. And the TC was almost tasteless to me. Do you find it tastes sweet?

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Cloe... Good limonaid ... who said that... Just allowed is good enough ... for me that is.. sweet well that is a matter of how much one stayed away from sugar per se..

One teaspoon or even a table spoon TC will not make it sweet, just sweeter haha that is why I wish to buy plain T so as not take to much TC.. 1 teaspoon per 6 oz might be just right.. or at least explain why you did not taste it... I think I could tast one grain of sugar in a glass... so would my body sugar insulin reaction.. that is why TC was such a good thing.. and T should be guilt free sweet... still need to buy it, and wish to get mushroom kind.. !

Cloe... the pictures unter your link are yummmyyyyyy ! The comparison chart does not seem to account for why I do not care for lemons...

Lime in water.. I love it with the skin left in the water.. makes it even more bitter Yumm.

Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!

Cloe... Good limonaid ... who said that... Just allowed is good enough ... for me that is.. sweet well that is a matter of how much one stayed away from sugar per se..

One teaspoon or even a table spoon TC will not make it sweet, just sweeter haha that is why I wish to buy plain T so as not take to much TC.. 1 teaspoon per 6 oz might be just right.. or at least explain why you did not taste it... I think I could tast one grain of sugar in a glass... so would my body sugar insulin reaction.. that is why TC was such a good thing.. and T should be guilt free sweet... still need to buy it, and wish to get mushroom kind.. !

Cloe... the pictures unter your link are yummmyyyyyy ! The comparison chart does not seem to account for why I do not care for lemons...

Lime in water.. I love it with the skin left in the water.. makes it even more bitter Yumm.

You're right....24 oz of water plus 1/2 a lime was too much water for me to remotely taste 1 heaping tsp of trehalose