I don't "hope to find" anything. Just curious. I doubt anything can be determined conclusively from this. Also, I posted this in the All Grain subforum since that's how I brew, and I have zero interest in extract beer making (I can't bring myself to call it "brewing"...sorry).

I'm mildly offended by this. I've had extract BREWS win gold medals, qualify for MCAB, and take second best in show, beating out hundreds, and in the case of two competitions, thousands of entries. I've since made the transition to AG, but I still enjoy making extract if time is short. Brewing isn't just about the recipe, it's the techniques, fermentation temperatures, and other skills developed.

Just an FYI, in French brewing is 'brassage' which actually means more or less 'to mix,' i.e., stirring grain with a paddle. So it really depends on the language. You could be a brasseur if you moved some extract with a paddle :-)