Poverty and lack of social mobility breeds violence. Violent places make children grow up into people violent. Violent people do things like this. You see this trend in every epoch in every nation in every history book.

Well if you mean simply reporting what has been going on for decades, but is now suddenly considered perhaps unacceptable by societal norms, then yes, "rocks the nation" it is. Now I'm all for reporting unnecessary deaths on any level, but ask yourself this - who or what agenda suddenly decided this had to be front page news every day. Answer that and you will find money/votes/influence..

doglover:Poverty and lack of social mobility breeds violence. Violent places make children grow up into people violent. Violent people do things like this. You see this trend in every epoch in every nation in every history book.

But yes, guns are the problem.

guns? No. Access to them by the mentally ill and unstable without a good way of screening for it? Yes.

doglover:Poverty and lack of social mobility breeds violence. Violent places make children grow up into people violent. Violent people do things like this. You see this trend in every epoch in every nation in every history book.

But yes, guns are the problem.

When people drove horse-drawn wagons, there were accidents, but not the clusterfark types we can see today.

doglover:Poverty and lack of social mobility breeds violence. Violent places make children grow up into people violent. Violent people do things like this. You see this trend in every epoch in every nation in every history book.

But yes, guns are the problem.

Surely if this is in every epoch of every nation, giving those people access to guns is the worst thing you could do?

Could this apply here in the shooter's defense? If the cook felt "legimately threatened" by the behavior of the belligerent customer, would SYG grant him the right to shoot?

...no. You have legitimately and reasonably feel that you were in fear of your life for that to come into play. No matter how the guy spins it, he won't be able to justify him fearing his life just because someone threw water in his face. Especially if there was a security guard already involved in the situation.

doglover:Poverty and lack of social mobility breeds violence. Violent places make children grow up into people violent. Violent people do things like this. You see this trend in every epoch in every nation in every history book.

But yes, guns are the problem.

Guns are a force multiplier. Granny can't even fend off a 7 year old, but she can easily take out a few people with a handgun.

Guns allow cowards to do tremendous amounts of damage with the need for any real martial skills.

Prophet of Loss:doglover: Poverty and lack of social mobility breeds violence. Violent places make children grow up into people violent. Violent people do things like this. You see this trend in every epoch in every nation in every history book.

But yes, guns are the problem.

Guns are a force multiplier. Granny can't even fend off a 7 year old, but she can easily take out a few people with a handgun.

Guns allow cowards to do tremendous amounts of damage without the need for any real martial skills.

Could this apply here in the shooter's defense? If the cook felt "legimately threatened" by the behavior of the belligerent customer, would SYG grant him the right to shoot?

...no. You have legitimately and reasonably feel that you were in fear of your life for that to come into play. No matter how the guy spins it, he won't be able to justify him fearing his life just because someone threw water in his face. Especially if there was a security guard already involved in the situation.

If the shooter was white and the victim black, I guarantee you not only would he have that defense, but the entire right wing media machine would be behind him.

And I also guarantee you, if a belligerent, enraged guy throws water on you and threatens to smash your face in with the glass it came from, you would feel threatened.

Prophet of Loss:Prophet of Loss: doglover: Poverty and lack of social mobility breeds violence. Violent places make children grow up into people violent. Violent people do things like this. You see this trend in every epoch in every nation in every history book.

But yes, guns are the problem.

Guns are a force multiplier. Granny can't even fend off a 7 year old, but she can easily take out a few people with a handgun.

Guns allow cowards to do tremendous amounts of damage without the need for any real martial skills.

Prophet of Loss:doglover: Poverty and lack of social mobility breeds violence. Violent places make children grow up into people violent. Violent people do things like this. You see this trend in every epoch in every nation in every history book.

But yes, guns are the problem.

Guns are a force multiplier. Granny can't even fend off a 7 year old, but she can easily take out a few people with a handgun.

Guns allow cowards to do tremendous amounts of damage with the need for any real martial skills.

Could this apply here in the shooter's defense? If the cook felt "legimately threatened" by the behavior of the belligerent customer, would SYG grant him the right to shoot?

...no. You have legitimately and reasonably feel that you were in fear of your life for that to come into play. No matter how the guy spins it, he won't be able to justify him fearing his life just because someone threw water in his face. Especially if there was a security guard already involved in the situation.

I don't remember the words "legitimately" and "reasonably" being in SYG laws. Can you point this out to me?

There are 40 murders a day in the US. They get reported in local news, but as a nation, they are "dog bites man" story unless something really interesting happens about the case.There are 90 suicides you won't here about.There are 500 deaths from medical mistakes you'll hear farkall about.

unknownshooter:Prophet of Loss: doglover: Poverty and lack of social mobility breeds violence. Violent places make children grow up into people violent. Violent people do things like this. You see this trend in every epoch in every nation in every history book.

But yes, guns are the problem.

Guns are a force multiplier. Granny can't even fend off a 7 year old, but she can easily take out a few people with a handgun.

Guns allow cowards to do tremendous amounts of damage with the need for any real martial skills.

thats why cops carry them?

Cops carry them because crooks have them. Most Cops in Western Europe do not carry guns.

Let's play USAHow I love the life I leadCannot think and cannot readWatch our values slip awayPlay the game of USA

Won't it be a lot of funEvery man will own a gunShoot the ones whose point of viewMakes a point that bothers youGo on and pollute the landClean air will be sold in cansDid you hear the master planOne nation under DisneylandLet's play USA....

Yogimus:Prophet of Loss: Prophet of Loss: doglover: Poverty and lack of social mobility breeds violence. Violent places make children grow up into people violent. Violent people do things like this. You see this trend in every epoch in every nation in every history book.

But yes, guns are the problem.

Guns are a force multiplier. Granny can't even fend off a 7 year old, but she can easily take out a few people with a handgun.

Guns allow cowards to do tremendous amounts of damage without the need for any real martial skills.

And prevents the strong from preying on the weak.

It also allows any crazy SOB to kills dozens. If everyone has guns then you have multiple people firing at each other. All this means is more innocents dead. But don't let any of this interrupt your Guns & Ammo fap session (how do you get the lube on the tweezers?).

Yogimus:Prophet of Loss: Prophet of Loss: doglover: Poverty and lack of social mobility breeds violence. Violent places make children grow up into people violent. Violent people do things like this. You see this trend in every epoch in every nation in every history book.

But yes, guns are the problem.

Guns are a force multiplier. Granny can't even fend off a 7 year old, but she can easily take out a few people with a handgun.

Guns allow cowards to do tremendous amounts of damage without the need for any real martial skills.

And prevents the strong from preying on the weak.

There is something else that prevents the strong from preying on the weak.

Prophet of Loss:Yogimus: Prophet of Loss: Prophet of Loss: doglover: Poverty and lack of social mobility breeds violence. Violent places make children grow up into people violent. Violent people do things like this. You see this trend in every epoch in every nation in every history book.

But yes, guns are the problem.

Guns are a force multiplier. Granny can't even fend off a 7 year old, but she can easily take out a few people with a handgun.

Guns allow cowards to do tremendous amounts of damage without the need for any real martial skills.

And prevents the strong from preying on the weak.

It also allows any crazy SOB to kills dozens. If everyone has guns then you have multiple people firing at each other. All this means is more innocents dead. But don't let any of this interrupt your Guns & Ammo fap session (how do you get the lube on the tweezers?).

doglover:Poverty and lack of social mobility breeds violence. Violent places make children grow up into people violent. Violent people do things like this. You see this trend in every epoch in every nation in every history book.

But yes, guns are the problem.

Poverty is the flame, social immobility is the fuse, and guns are the bomb that will blow your mind. Wait, what?

Could this apply here in the shooter's defense? If the cook felt "legimately threatened" by the behavior of the belligerent customer, would SYG grant him the right to shoot?

...no. You have legitimately and reasonably feel that you were in fear of your life for that to come into play. No matter how the guy spins it, he won't be able to justify him fearing his life just because someone threw water in his face. Especially if there was a security guard already involved in the situation.

I don't remember the words "legitimately" and "reasonably" being in SYG laws. Can you point this out to me?

ChuckRoddy:There are 40 murders a day in the US. They get reported in local news, but as a nation, they are "dog bites man" story unless something really interesting happens about the case.There are 90 suicides you won't here about.There are 500 deaths from medical mistakes you'll hear farkall about.

Citation needed on the last part. Medical malpractice killed 1,500 last year per the CDC. Your numbers would put it as one of the top ten causes of morbidity and mortality in the US.