In tracking and assessing end results, difficult to determine who tested how much of which tests. Don't think litmus can tell us, eg person X completed 100% of BFT for Mac PPC.

Inexperienced volunteers = every QA initiative will have some mistakes in testing, and hand holding

To Do - exit poll of a) QA participants to determine what worked and didn't and solicit suggestions, b) people who volunteered but didn't help, to determine what factor(s) resulted in their not helping (no feedback was posted in newsgroups)

Need improved plan for beta 1 QA, including reassess time expectations and organization of volunteers.

Need to assess changes wanted in litmus to improve testing management and user environment of beta 1... (eg. bug 450143 don't populate Build ID# if test is non-browser product). bug 355585 ability for other users to continue with a test suite run. More after postmortem.

Thunderbird 3

What makes a good release?

adoption

"a project that I want to follow"

usability, "delight bugs"

Demonstration of trajectory

Identify big areas of value & schedule risk

Action Item (everyone): nominate important bugs for blocking? and wanted?

Action Item (drivers): spend some time triaging nominations

Schedule driver meeting this week to attack triage blockers/wanted

Friday Aug 15th @ 9:30 am PST

davida:

release notes were really difficult, user visible changes were few yet so many changes happened

Action Item (everyone): look for delight bugs for the next release

there is already a large list of wanted and blockers, many of which won't be done. drivers triage these

beckley

KaiRo

rkent

bug 441932 "Keep lists of new messages only in nsMsgDBFolder" still needs an initial comment on overall approach by bienvenu before I can make further progress. Existing patch has already bitrotted.

bug 347994 I've been pushing for some reviews of this simple patch to fix an intermittent issue in display of the new mail dialog - but it's hard because the existing code claims it is fixing some obscure layout problem that nobody knows about.

Junk mail

bug 449768 "Reindexing should save junk-related metadata" I started work on this after discussions on m.d.a.thunderbird about direction.

Junk Percent views: I've had various discussions about how and whether to display the junkpercent variable. I currently believe it should be displayed as a number in a a "Possible Junk" view.

bug 444220 "Can't change junk folder in account settings" I've got an initial patch for this regression, but I want to check it again before review.

Other: I want to do some work on tokenization soon to clean up how tokens are selected. This would include 1) eliminate worthless common tokens such as Message-ID, 2) test including "," as a token limiter so we can pickup comma-delimited items in headers (such as SA rule match fields), 3) investigate why header tokens are not length-limited.

Misc

bug 438414 I've got a fix for this crasher, but the fix leaks. I'm in the middle of dealing now with the glories of reference counting cycles to get it to not crash and not leak.