Documents from the December 6, 1972 Executive Committee meeting of the Boone and Crockett Club

Copies to: All Present and Absent
Messrs: Pullman - 2
Gray - 2 Ely - 2 Ferguson - 2 Office - 2 Minute Book •s' Also to Messrs* Thompson, Batten,Rikhoff
Boone and Crockett Club
Minutes of the Executive Committee Meeting of the Boone and Crockett Club held December 6, 1972 at the Racquet Club, 370 Park Avenue, New York City, New York.
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
Richard Borden Marshall S. Carter Frank Cook Alfred Ely, Jr.
Robert M. Ferguson
Sherman Gray C. R. Gutermuth John W. Hanes, Jr.
Duncan M. Hodgson George R. McCullough James A. Oliver Jack S. Parker
Daniel A. Poole Arthur C. Popham, Jr. Frederick C. Pullman John E. Rhea Archibald B. Roosevelt William I. Spencer Edward G. Zern
Wallace C. Dayton
Fairman R. Dick
Henry Clay Frick II, M.D.
Donald S. Hopkins John J. McCloy II Charles F. Nadler, M.D. Dr. M.. Graham Netting
Robert C. Reeve Elmer M. Rusten, M.D. Samuel B. Webb George W. Wyckoff, Jr.
Exec., *74; Chmn,,Cons. Com.
Exec., *72; Cons. Com.
Exec., * 73; NABG Cora.
Secretary; Chmn., Memb. Com.
Hon. Life; Chmn;*, Fin. Com., Memb.
Com., Sagamore Hill Com.
Treasurer Cons. Com.
Exec., T72; Fin. Com.
1st V.P.; NABG Com., Cons. Com.
Exec., '72; Ed. & Hist.
V.P., *73; Cons. Com.
Exec., *73; Fin. Cora.; Chmn., NABG Com.; Ed. & Hist. Com.
V.P., *72; Vice-Chran., Cons. Cora.
1st V,P.
President
Exec., *73; Memb. Com.; NABG Com.
Hon. Pres. Life; Sagamore Hill Cora. Exec., *74; Fin. Com.; NABG Com.
V. P., *74; Edit. & Hist. Com.
V. P., *73; Cons. Com.
Hon. Life
Exec., *74; Cons. Com.; Saganore Hill Com.
NABG Com.
Asst. Treas.; Fin. Com.
V. P., *72; NABG Cora.
V. P., *74; Cons. Com.; Chmn., Edit.
& Hist. Com.; Memb. Com.
Hon. Life Member; NABG Com.; Cons. Com. 1st V. P.; NABG Com.
NABG Com.
Asst. Secretary
GUESTS:
The following members attended by invitation:
Joseph P. Linduska Richard D. Reeve (Proxy for R.C.Reeve)
Mr. Pullman, President called the meeting to order at 10:00 a.m. and Mr. Ely, Secretary, assisted by Mr. Hanes, took the minutes.
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1. Upon motion duly made and seconded, the minutes of the Executive Com­mittee Meeting of September 16, 1972 were approved as circulated.
2. Secretary’s Report - Mr. Alfred Ely, Jr., Secretary
A. DEATHS - None since 9/16/72
B. TRANSFERS - None
C. ELECTION OF NEW MEMBERS - Nathaniel P. Reed A '72
D. MEMBERSHIP TOTALS - Regular: 99 Honorary: 4
Emeriti: 12 Associate: 54
E. CANDIDATES: Emeriti: Bayard W. Read
c Honorary and Associate: None
Regular: Dan W. Maddox
Bayard W. Read: Regular 1952. A letter from Mr. Read was
presented. Because of health reasons he expressed a desire that his place be taken by someone who could participate actively in Club affairs.
It was unanimously agreed that he be transferred
to Emeritus status. The Secretary was instructed to so write
Mr. Read, expressing regards from his many friends.
Dan W. Maddox: Letters from Messrs. Rhea (proposer), Ferguson,
Batten, K. Roosevelt and Dr. Netting were presented in support of proposal for Regular Membership.
After brief discussion on his qualifications,
and strong support from those present, the Secretary was in­structed
to place his name on ballot for mailing to Regular and Honorary members in accordance with By-Laws.
3. Treasurer and Finance Reports:
A. Review Annual Audit - Mr. Gray, Treasurer.
i. Copies of Annual Audit closing 6/30/72 were available for review. (Copy attached as Exhibit "B" minutes 9/16/72.)
iio Please note that this report was unanimously accepted at the
September 16, 1972 Executive Committee Meeting. (P. 3Ai, and ii, 9/16/72)
B. Finance Committee Report - Mr. Ferguson, Chairman, i. Report quoted in its entirety:-
"Since the last full report of the Finance Committee dated September 16, 1972, the following changes in the Club’s portfolio have taken place:
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Sold:
Matured:
Bought:
900 Shares of Flintkote $21,262.16
25M U. S. Treasury Bills (inc. $233.30) 25,000.00
Cash Balance - October 31, 1972
500 Aztec Oil and Gas 200 Caterpillar Tractor 500 Jewelcor
Transfer Tax - Barber Oil
Balance in Principal Account Less Interest due Income Account
176.03 46,438.19
12,311.27
12,980.00
13,232.06
38,523.33
______.53 38,523.86
7,914.33 233c30
$ 7,681.03
A meeting of the Investment Committee was held at the Lunch Club on October 30, 1972 - Present: Mr. Gray (host), Mr. McCloy,
Mr. Ferguson and Mr. Koplin of Wertheim & Co., at which meeting the above transactions were agreed upon.
The Treauurer tells me that including a check that was just received for the balance of the gun collection, in the amount of $9,650 and other receipts for the sale of Record Books and con­tributions, we have in the banks and at Wertheim approximately $25,000- If I can extract this money from the Treasurer, we will have another meeting of the Finance Committee this month for- the purpose of putting it to work.
The following is a summary of the investment portfolio as of December 1, 1972:
Indicated
Cost
Market
Income
500
Aztec Oil & Gas Co.
$ 12,311.27
$ 12,125.00
$ 560.00 *
21
Barber Oil
Gift
900.00
51.45 *
200
Caterpillar Tractor
12,980.00
13,650.00
280.00
700
Flying Tiger Pfd. 1.20
cv. 23,805.64
34,562,50
840.00
400
General Electric
22,342.71
27,450.00
560.00
75
Intern’1 Bus. Machines
20,575.09
29,850.00
405.00
500
Intern’1 Tel. and Tel.
26,768.64
29,875.00
620.00
1,000
Jewelcor
.26,653.31
29,625.00
600
Marcor
17,329.53
18,225.00
480.00
400
Squibb Corp.
17,509.15
38,950.00
624.00
$180,275.34
$235,212.50
$4,420.45
*Stock
Respectfully submitted,
(Signed)
Robert M. Ferguson, Chairman
tt
December 4, 1972
ii. The Finance Committee Report was unanimously accepted as presented.
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3. C. OTHER BUSINESS - (Finance Com. Rep. cont.)
i. Natural Resources Council of America - It was proposed, seconded and unanimously carried that the Treasurer be authorized to pay $100 to this Council covering our dues for 1973.
It was further agreed that President Pullman designate a member as our Official Delegate.
ii.Suggestions for adjusting accounting away from separate fund concept. (Follow-up from 9/16/72, #3, A, iv)
Following considerable discussion it was unanimously agreed that Mthe separate fund" concept be continued, without clanges.
4. NORTH AMERICAN BIG GAME
A. RECORDS COMMITTEE REPORT - Mr. Jack Parker, Chairman i. Report quoted in its entirety:
"MEETING OF 7FE NORTH AMERICAN BIG GAME COMMITTEE - NEW YORK CITY
DECEMBER 5, 1972
A meeting of the North American Big Game Committee was held at 4 oTclock, Tuesday afternoon, December 5. Present were Frank Cook, Duncan Hodgson, Art Popham, Dick Reeve, John Rhea, Phil Wright,
Bob Ely, Fred Pullman, Bob Ferguson, Archie Roosevelt, and Jack Parker. The following matters were discussed:
1. In view of an increasing number of queries with regard to the validity of trophies taken from preserves, Indian reservations, or ranches devoted to hunting and the importance of these arrange­ments to the future preservation of game, the question of eligibility of trophies taken under such conditions for record purposes and/or competition was at issue. Many factors are involved, including the extent of such preserves, restraining enclosures, observance of state game regulations, etc. After some discussion Art Popham was requested to study out this problem and come up with recommendations for consideration of the North American Big Game Committee at its next meetingo
2„ A number of Desert Sheep have been transplanted from Nevada and Southern California into Eastern Oregon. The question has been raised as to whether or not trophies of these sheep taken in Oregon can be properly classified as Desert Sheep for Record Book purposes. This is a matter which concerns a possibility of the transplanted sheep intermingling with other sheep which may previously have been in the area, as well as habitat. It was sug­gested that Dr. Cowan is very knowledgeable on this front, and accordingly Fred Pullman was requested to be in touch with him to obtain his advice and recommendations with regard $o accepting sheep taken in this area as Desert Sheep.
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3. As we all know, we have in the past accepted the establish­ment of necessarily arbitrary boundaries as lines of demarcation between one specie and another, i.e., Canada Moose vs. Yukon Moose, Mule Deer vs. Blacktail Deer, etc. A number of trophies have been submitted for record which have been taken fairly close to these lines. With strict interpretation of the boundaries in some cases these have placed well up in the records, where had they been taken just the other side of the b oundary they would not have made the Book at all. Phil Wright is going to make a study of this and provide recommendations for the consideration of the North American Big Game Committee with regard to the possibility of es­tablishing a cleaner and more equitable method of handling these cases.
4. The status report on the additional submissions for inclusion in the Record Bock during the past year was provided„
5. It is our understanding that the Executive Committee passed a resolution which required any trophy listed in the first 10 of the Records to have been measured by the Panel of Judges. This has provided inequities in that there are a number of trophies now in­cluded among the first 10 which have never been measured under such conditions, and alternatively we know of at least one case where a
trophy has been omitted from the Book altogether because it was not
so measured. In order to establish a more equitable condition and do our best to insure tlat all appropriate trophies be properly rec­ognized, the North American Big Game Committee recommends to the Executive Committee that its prior resolution be rescinded in favor of the following:
"All trophies which would find their place in the first ten of that particular specie in the Record
Book, will be measured by two Official Measurers
and the scores submitted. If these scores are judged consistent, the higher of the two values will be accepted for record purposes -- recogniz­ing that there nnay be a time lapse of consequence between the two measurements. The acceptance of these scores will be at the discretion of the North American Big Game Committee and should there be significant variations or out-of-tolerance dif­ferences, a third measurement by still another Official Measurer will be requested before the scores are accepted for inclusion in the Record.
Final disposition will be at the discretion of the North American Big Game Committee.
6. Over the past six months at the request of the President of the Boone and Crockett Club an ad hoc committee has been working with the National Rifle Association to see whether or not mutually acceptable and mutually beneficial arrangements could be made to involve the National Rifle Association in the matter of keeping records of North American 3ig Game. After initial meetings were
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held with the National Rifle Association this matter was discussed by the Executive Committee in September at Coleman Lake. Meanwhile the detailed information with regard to our discussion with the NRA was distributed to all members of the North American Big Game Com­mittee and written responses have been received from all but one member.
After the session at Coleman Lake the ad hoc committee put together very much more detailed recommendations with regard to how responsi­bilities and authorities would be divided between tie National Rifle Association and the Boone and Crockett Club. These were submitted to the NRA for their consideration and the response accepting this division of the work was received from their Executive Vice Presi­dent, Maxwell Rich. Copies of these two documents are attached to these minutes as Items I and II. A lengthy discussion was held within the Committee meeting, and it is only fair to report that the conclusion was not at all unanimous. The principal concerns expressed were:
1. That this arrangement would lead to the demise of the Boone and Crockett Club.
2. A genuine concern for the Nationa . Pifle Association image as it would reflect on the Boone and Crockett Club.
3. The possibility that any such arrangement would be incom­patible with accurate record keeping.
On the other hand, it was brought out
1« That to do this job properly entailed arrangements and expense which the Boone and Crockett Club is not now at least in any position to handle;
2. That the policing of fair chase, Official Measurers, con­tacts with the Fish and Game Commissions throughout the country and other activities of this nature could be under­taken oy the National Rifle Association where it is not possible with the Boone and Crockett organization;
3. The access to communication machinery for hunting ethics, fair chase, and matters of this nature would be readily available through the NRA;
4. The NRA has the basic machinery to serve the sportsmen/ hunter population of this country far more effectively than anything the Boone and Crocmett Club could do even if it continues its present service on the best possible basis; and finally
5. That acting as a catalyst we may be able to help change the image of the NRA which has brought such concern to this discussion in a more favorable and useful direction.
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4.A.i .6. NORTH AMERICAN BIG GAME (Cont.)
On the motion made and seconded, it was voted to recommend to the Executive Committee of the Boone and Crockett Club that arrangements be made to work with the National Rifle Association in the matter of keeping records and conducting competitions along the lines con­tained in the Ferguson memorandum. As a matter of record I must report that the vote was 9 to 5, including negative votes from 3 members not present at the meeting, but which the Chairman believes should be so recorded. In consequence of the affirmative handling of this motion, the North American Big Game Committee submits this to the Executive Committee for their consideration and appropriate action.
NABG - ITEM I
Memorandum to: Mr. Jack S. Parker November 2, 1972
From: Robert M. Ferguson
Further to our meeting in Washington on October 24th with John Rhea, I have studied the notes which we put together for further analysis and come up with the following comments. I hasten to add that since I was never an active member of the NABGC, but more or less an observer, there are certain
problems which I am not qualified to discuss from experience, so some of my
thoughts should be considered as off-the-cuff opinions, based on what, theo­retically, should happen in the over-all picture under discussion.
My comments are based on the theory that we may make a positive effort through the NRA to expand and promote the activities of the NABGC. They are also based on the proposition that the NABGC will continue to be the most active side of such an arrangement until they are satisfied that certain responsibilities can be handed along to the National Rifle Association, based on their interest, intent and performance. Perhaps, this transition period might take several years.
I. SCORING
A. Scoring Methods - As pointed out in your letter of August 8th
to Max Rich and his reply of August 15th, this would remain
the responsibility of the NABGC.
B. Standards - This should also remain the responsibility of the NABGC. Judges - This item should be broken down as a joint operation:
1. The NABGC initially to set standards for selection of Official Measurers.
2. The selection of the Panel of Judges might be arranged jointly, with the Boone and Crockett Club perhaps nominating the Chair­man of the Judges.
3o The policing of scoring chart submissions and coordination (involvement) with the appropriate state fish and wildlife agencies should be the responsibility of the NRA with an assist where possible by the NABGC.
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11• COMPETITIONS
A. Frequency of competitions should be a joint decision which would allow for flexibility* Another thoughtwhich is not in our notes is that there are several local or "area competitions" now carried on, for example, the Alaskan Big Game Club, the Coues Deer in Tucson, and I believe Colorado has a local competition within the State, etc., where these local competitions request authority to use our scoring sheets and rules - I believe the NABGC should reserve such permission unto itself for the time being*
B. Judging - including arrangement, location space, etc., this should be the responsibility of the NRA, subject of course, to selection of the judges per 1. C. above*
C. Location and Arrangements necessary for awards and presentation — This, I believe, should again be the responsibility of the NRA with -ccooperation of the NABGC*
Publicity - Certainly the NRA is in a better position to push the broadcast publicity, but I feel this should be a joint arrangement so that where the Boone and Crockett name is involved, it would have a veto on anything that smacked too strongly of the commercial.
E* Determination of Awards - including classification, numbers, limitations — This again should be a joint endeavor between the NRA and the NABGC.
F. Host Responsibility for the Competition Activities - This should be the responsibility of the NRA.
111• HEPPED KEEPING
A. Listing - including verification of appropriate classification for each submission* This should be the responsibility of the NRA.
B. Maintenance of up-to-date files on all submissions and up-dating computer tape - Responsibility of NRA.
C. Responding to correspondence with attention to specific inquiry in regard to classification, scoring method, eligibility and address of Official Measurer — Over a period of time, the NRA would ultimately assume this responsibility but it may well need some help from the NABGC. However, we would hope that they would ultimately have someone able to handle all the correspondence, both from a scientific and a practical point of view.
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III.D. Publication of the -“Records of North American Big Game” -
It is my feeling that with rtespect to the publication of future Records Books, the NRA should be responsible for all the listings and the production of the book* Perhaps, they would agree to call it "A Boone and Crockett Club Book Published by the National Rifle Association*11 The editorial part of the book, I feel would probably have to be a joint effort of the NRA and an Editorial Committee appointed by the Boone and Crockett Club*
E. Interpretation of Standards - where a more sophisticated examin­ation of a particular case is involved, I believe should remain as a responsibility of the NABGC*
F. Recognition of Species to be included - including official designation of sub-species and boundaries for the guidance of both hunters and measurers* This should initially remain the responsibility of the NABGC until such time as we are satisfied that the NRA group, along with cooperation from Fish and Game authorities are qualified to designate with respect to sub­species and boundaries*
G„ Maintenance of the scientific integrity and validity of Records as published - This would have to be, in my opinion, a joint responsibility with most of the input initially coming from the NABGC.
IV.FAIR CHASE
A. The establishment of minimum fair chase standards - Since the Boone and Crockett Club has established these standards, I think they should retain the responsibility for final approval of any future changes which it is felt would enhance the current creed as written in our By-Laws.
B. The enforcement of Fair Chase to the extent this can be accom­plished - This should be the responsibility of the NRA who are
in a far better position to do this than is the Boone and Crockett Club.
C* The right of withdrawal from consideration for Record purposes:
I feel this should be concurred in jointly if for no other reason than to enhance cooperation between the Club and the NRA.
D. The right for elimination of any prior published trophy listing - Since we were responsible for publishing, then I think it would be our responsibility or right to eliminate them.
E. The encouragement and promotion of a more wide-spread hunting ethic consistent with the principles of Fair Chase - This again should be a joint responsibility not only for the reasons pointed out in C above, but since at the moment, our image is more
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(E) related in this field than that of the NRA, we could assume a leadership during the time 1hat their name became more closely associated with hunting ethics and fair chase. They, at the same time, could improve their image by policing and enforcing.
So much for my rather "broad thinking.11 It really comes down to the fact that any agreement, or contract, is about as good as the parties thereto.
We have close ties within the NRA and with a proper amount of effort and willingness to share our knowledge and intent, I would have every hope that the NRA would, as they have indicated, accept this knowledge and intent and give us the proper base to work with over a period of several years in order to put our well conceived and going enterprise on a broader and more productive basis than we are able to do, both from a point of view of people and money. The success of any enterprise is dependent on the amount of effort put into it and I would hope that if we came to an agreement that the NRA would be willing to do more than match the effort which I am sure the Boone and Crockett Club would be willing to contribute.
Of course, in working out such an arrangement, it would be necessary to include an understanding that we could "pick up our dolls and go home” if things did not work out to our satisfaction.
(Signed) Robert M. Ferguson
CC: Mr. Richard Borden
Mr. Frederick C. Pullman Mr. John E. Rhea RMF:hb
NABG - ITEM II
THE NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION 1871 OF AMERICA 1971
November 17, 1972
Mr. Jack S. Parker, Chairman North American Big Game Committee Boone and Crockett Club c/o Carnegie Museum 4400 Forbes Avenue Pittsburgh, Pa. 15213
Dear Mr• Parker:
In a recent conference with Mr. Robert M. Ferguson and John E. Rhea concerning joint conduct of future North American Big Game competitions by the Boone and Crockett Club and the National Rifle
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Association, I had the opportunity to discuss a memorandum dated November 2, 1972, prepared by Mr, Ferguson for your information,
I concur with the findings of the memorandum and offer the following additional comments:
Scoring
Scoring methods and standards are rightfully a responsibility of the Boone and Crockett Club. Boone & Crockett Club's primary attention can best be directed to standards and selection of judges, and NRA!s toward administrative procedures and policing the system of official measurers. I especially concur with the proposition of developing greater involvement of State Fish and Wildlife Agencies in the program.
Competitions
Decisions on the frequency of competitions will require agreement from both partners in this project, I concur with the Boone &
Crockett Club reservations concerning the endorsement of local Big Game competitions. However, I believe that it should be a joint goal to establish standards acceptable for all competitions,and that it is in the interest of all concerned to open lines of communication between Boone & Crockett-NRA and sponsors of other big game competitions. I agree with Mr. Ferguson's observations that arrangements for Judging, publicity and hosting competition activities are rightfully NRA re­sponsibilities and that locations and arrangements for presentation of awards and determination of awards are necessarily joint endeavors.
Recordkeeping
Listing, maintenance of up-to-date files, and correspondence are NRA responsibility. However, a close working relationship between the responsible NRA Staff section and the North American Big Game Committee will be required, particularly in the beginning of the project.
When the time comes to publish the next issue of the records of North American Big Game, I believe it would be wise to establish an editorial board representing both Boone & Crockett and NRA to exercise editorial control, and that due notice and credit be given both organ­izations for their part in the publication of the book.
In all other phases of recordkeeping, Boone & Crockett shall have free access to all files and govern all other matters pertaining to the records.
Fair Chase
Since the Boone & Crockett Club By-Laws enunciate the creed of fair chase, any changes therein can be only by petition on the part of NRA
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and disposition is a sole prerogative of the Boone & Crockett Club, Close cooperation in the encouragement and promotion of a more wide­spread hunting ethic and consistent with the principles of fair chase deserves the full attention of both organizations.
The success of this venture depends on close cooperation between both organizations in pursuit of a common goal. Our agreement can be only as lasting as our mutual contribution toward that goal, and, I believe, if each of our organizations contributes its unique capa-. bility to the project, success is insured.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed)
Maxwell E. Rich Major General (Ret.)
Executive Vice President
MERrjd
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The above report was accepted as presented with particular attention to the following items:
#5 - Change in procedure for measuring trophies which would find their place in the first ten of that particular specie -
Resolution as recommended in above report unanimously accepted.
#6 - Boone and Crockett Club discussions with National Rifle Association regarding the establishment of a joint venture, the keeping of the records, the publishing of future record books and the management of competitions.
Mr. Ferguson’s memorandum dated November 2, 1972 and General Rich's reply of November 17, 1972 were reviewed in detail. This review was followed by a lengthy discussion on "pros ’ and cons" with all participating. Following this discussion, President Pullman read Dr. Netting's letter of December 4, 1972. This letter is quoted:
December 4, 1972
Mr. Fred C. Pullman, President Boone and Crockett Club 50 South LaSalle Street Chicago, Illinois 60690
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Dear Fred:
Enforced bed rest provides uninterrupted hours for brain dusting and for examination of the essentials of a problem without distracting papers at hand that divert attention to details of negotiations. Here follows the distillation of longer concentration on the question of the future of the Boone and Crockett Club than I have ever been able to devote to the subject while caught up in the pressing cares of the moment, courtesy of a bout with viral pneumonia.
During the first two-thirds of its existence, the Club established the primacy of its concern for North American Big Game andibr the wilderness areas it inhabits; these notable achievements are amply detailed in Crusade for Wildlife. Then a small group of highly experienced members, recognizing the pressing need for standardized measuring techniques and a ranking of existing and future trophies as a basis for selective hunting, initiated the Big Game competitions. A whole series of exceptionally able chairmen, judges and editors labored mightily to make the competitions increasingly successful and to preserve the trophy details in the Records books, which also contain excellent anecdotal, historical and conservation articles.
There is no question in my mind that during mpst of this
period the competitions and the books promoted selective hunting
and that most of the entries were ethically obtained. Success, however, contqined the seeds of destruction, because the growing prestige of a high ranking trophy, that made the book, began to attract increasing numbers of hunting rascals who cared not a whit for Fair Chase, Sportsmanship, Conservation or even Game Laws. Guides and outfitters whose clients had a high degree of success in obtaining qualifying trophies, found that their bookings were quickly filled, and some soon demonstrated more interest in money than in the code of gentlemen hunters. Last
year's shocking revelation that there were not less than thirty
(30) wealthy hunters willing to pay up to $3500 to poach endan­gered and protected desert rams has been followed by this year's scandal of even more widespread examples of unfair chase on the part of guides and hunters, and the massacre of as many as 800 desert bighorns in Baja California by hunters from the U. S,, according to a report in the September, 1972 issue of Audubon Magazine (see Xerox attached.)
Without the Big Game competitions and the periodically updated Records books, illegal killings, unfair chase, and other unsportsmanlike activities would still go on but the hunting criminal would gain no national acclaim for his trophy. It is
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my contention that the Boone and Crockett Club now has the opportunity to strike the greatest blow in its history for thepreservation of North American game by discontinuing any further competitions and by sitting tightly upon its copy­right records so that no other organization can possibly use them in any ranking system for the term of these copyrights at least. It should stress that the once honorable sport of trophy hunting has been infiltratedby such a hunting mafia that a meaningful national or international competition (state competitions may still be ably policed) is no longer possible.
If, on the other hand, the Club decides to affiliate with the National Rifle Association in competitions and Records book publishing, the Club’s absolute control of the Records listings will be forever lost. Regardless of the good will and understanding of present leaders of the two organizations no 150-man group can realistically expect to achieve equal voice with a one-million-member organization for an extended period.
I know that the Executive Committee will be giving this matter its profound consideration. I regret deeply that I can­not be present in person to argue my no doubt heretical view. Regardless of the deed sion with respect to the National Rifle affiliation I now feel so convinced that trophy ranking attracts so many unprincipled hunters that I cannot accept reappointment to the Editorial and Historical Committee in any capacity.
I am sending copies of this letter not only to members of the Editorial Committee, but also to the Pittsburgh members of the Boone and Crockett Club, many of whom, I believe, have been forced reluctantly to think along similar lines because of the growing evidence of trophy hunting irregularities they have encountered in various hunting areas.
Sincerely,
(Signed) Graham
M. Graham Netting ,T
There was further discussion relative to policing of Records and Fair Chase as well as contacts with guides’ and outfitters’ associations. (Several of our members have talked before some of these associations and feel they are in favor of policing themselves.)
A motion was made, seconded and carried (two ”No” votes) that the recommendation of the Big Game Committee be accepted, i.e., ’’Arrange­ments be made to work with the National Rifle Association along the lines contained in Mr. Ferguson’s memorandum of November 2, 1972”.
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5# CONSERVATION COMMITTEE - Mr. Richard Borden, Chairman A. CONSERVATION COMMITTEE REPORT - Mr. Borden i.Report as presented is quoted in its entirety:
n REPORT OF THE CONSERVATION COMMITTEE
of the BOONE AND CROCKETT CLUB ANNUAL MEETING Deceiuter 6, 1972 New York City
The Conservation Committee and the Conservation Committee Advisors met in the Mahogany Room of the Harvard Club of New York City at 4:00 p.m. on December 5,,1972, and discussed various con­servation projects that had been brought to the Club’s attention.
1. We reviewed what had been accomplished during the past year since this Chairman took over from Pat Carter. We have given Maurice Hornocker $1000 to complete his Mountain Lion Study.
2. Frank Groves has been given $1250 for the support of Dr. Taylor, who is studying virology with reference to the loss of lambs in the Utah Desert Sheep enclosure.
3. Utah State University, under the direction of Professor Allen W. Stokes, was given $1500 towards his behaviorial study of Brown Bear on the McNeil River in Alaska. The Chairman reported that he had seen a 16mm print of some of the film that had been taken in the course of this study, and he felt that it was quite well handled.
4. We had a request from Lyle Sowls, Unit Leader of the Arizona Cooperative Wildlife Research Unit, for financial assist­ance in the preparation of a monograph on his study into the decline of Whitetail Deer in the mountain ranges of southeastern Arizona. The Committee felt that other conservation agencies should also contribute to the publication of this monograph and that the Boone and Crockett Club should not be expected to pick up the whole tab.
5. The Chairman reported to the Committee on the matter
of the creation of additional National Parks, Wilderness Areas and Wildlife Refuges in northern British Columbia in anticipation that this area will now open up with the railroad and additional access roads. The Chairman reported that he had communicated with Mr. Adolph W. Schmidt, our Ambassador to Canada, and to Mr. David Barrett, the Premier of British Columbia. It appears that some progress has already been made in this direction. It was pointed out that the Club woshes to lend its support in any way possible to see that these fine areas are preserved against exploitation.
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5. CONSERVATION COMMITTEE (Cont.)
A.i. 6. The Conservation Committee discussed the matter of a small committee to review various research projects that come in for consideration. The Chairman was instructed to appoint this committee.
Respectfully submitted,
(Signed)
Richard Borden, Chairman Conservation Committee * ”
ii. The above report was unanimously approved with particular attention to:
(a) Approval of financial support to Sowls Whitetail Monograph- $625. Other appropriations previously approved.
B. GRANTS COMMITTEE (9/16/72 #5 Bi) - to be done by next meeting.
C. OTHER BUSINESS -
i. Budget for Conservation Committee. After discussion it was proposed, second and unanimously carried that the Conservation Com­mittee be authorized to spend up to $4,000, this amount and ex­penses to be reviewed at each Executive Committee meeting.
ii. Techniques for Measuring N,. A. Big Game. 24 prints sold to date at a net receipt of about $1,000 so far. This does not take into consideration the original expense covered by Mr. Olin’s donation of $6,000, nor of Mr. Borden’s out-of-pocket expense.
Mr. Poole has offered more publicity. Mr. Borden will coordin­ate with him.
6. NOMINATING COMMITTEE REPORT, Mr. Ferguson, Chairman
Slate to be presented at Annual Meeting was read for general infor­mation and is quoted:
Nominating Committee Report
Honorary President
President
Secretary
Assistant Secretary Treasurer
Assistant Treasurer First Vice Presidents
Archibald B. Roosevelt Frederick C. Pullman Alfred Ely, Jr.
John W. Hanes, J£r, Sherman Gray John J. McCloy II
C. R. Gutermuth Duncan M. Hodgson Elmer M. Rusten
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6. NOMINATING COMMITTEE REPORT (Cont. )
Vice .Presidents
Class of 1973
Class of 1974
Class of 1975
Wallace C. Dayton James A. Oliver
M. Graham Netting Edward G. Zern
John H. Batten Ian McTaggart Cowan
Executive Committee
Class of 1973
Class of 1974
Class of 1975
Frank Cook Jack S. Parker John E. Rhea
Richard Borden Charles F. Nadler
Henry Clay Frick II Arthur C. Popham, Jr.
William I. Spencer James A. Thompson
7. OTHER BUSINESS
A. Editorial and Historical Committee
i. Mr. Ely reported that Graham Netting, confined to his home by illness, had telephoned to report on behalf of the Editorial and Historical Committee that sales of the 1971 Edition of North American Big Game had totalled 6,635 copies as of December 4, out of a total printing of 8,008 published one year ago. The total sales can be broken down into 3,489 individual sales and 3,146 through dealers. Subtraction of 426 copies sent to Offic­ial Measurers, authors, reviewers, etc., and ten copies replaced by reason of losses in shipment leaves a remainder on hand of 937 copies. Christmas sales are expected to exceed the recent average of 100 copies per month so this edition may be expected to go out of print in the summer of 1973. Miss Ida Mae Shoemaker, who handled the book distribution on a part-time basis in a highly efficient manner, plans to resign at the end of the month, but is looking for someone to take her place.
ii. Reprint of *71 Records Book - Messrs. Ferguson and Rhea.
Due to logistics and timing it was not possible to reprint in time for Christmas season. Hence, this matter is to be placed in the hands of the Editorial Committee. Authorization for ad­vertising and printing remains the same as stated in 9/16/72 minutes #7 B ii. Suggested quantity, 5,000.
iii. Crusade for Wildlife. Now have 1,500 copies at printers available for sale. Thus reprint not called for at this time.
Mr. Gutermuth will contact Stackpole to arrange for purchase at discount of 50 copies for B & C office. In this way we can benefit by shipping from the office at retail.
Further, it was proposed, seconded and approved that the Secre­tary send (and bill) each new member a copy of CRUSADE, stating that it is required reading for all members.
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7. OTHER BUSINESS (Cont.)
A. iv. Mr, Sheldon’s request to reprint chapter in ’’Hunting and Con­servation”
(B & C 1925) by his father on Big Game in Chihuahua was unanimously approved, Mr, Pullman to so advise him,
B. SAGAMORE HILL AND GUN COMMITTEE REPORTS.
i. Gun Committee - Mr. Ferguson
Report as presented is quoted in its entirety:
” First the good news — Guns - For those of you who can and should have read the exclusive, limited offer of the Club’s surplus guns to members should be familiar with the undertaking. To avoid repetition, the limited offer expired October 31st and the membership bought eight of the thirty firearms for a net sum to the Club of $2,768,00. Since that time, your Gun Committee (Messrs. Gray, Rikhoff, Ferguson) agreed and have sold the balance of the arsenal to N. Flay- derman & Co., Inc. for a net sum of $9,650.00, bringing the total received for all surplus cumulation of artillery to $12,418.00.
May I say that dealing with Norm Flayderman (whom I first described as a ’’most congenial and impressive gun dealer, consultant, appraiser, etc.”) proved to be a real pleasure and your Committee wishes to record our thanks for his help, thoughtfulness and cooperation.
We have retained at Sagamore eleven guns which were either used by Theodore Roosevelt or have a direct relation to the family. His favorite rifle is on display in a separate and prominent case in the National Rifle Association Museum in Washington.
For the Gun Committee
(Signed)
Robert M. Ferguson, Chairman ”
This report was unanimously accepted with particular note to the $12,418 received which will be added to the General Purpose Funds of the Club.
ii. Sagamore Kill Committee - Mr. Roosevelt.
Report as presented is quoted in its entirety:
” Now for the Bad News! Insurance -- The Sagamore Hill Committee was put in charge of seeing that adequate insurance was placed on the possessions of the Boone and Crockett Club
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7. B.ii. Sagamore Hill Committee (Cont.)
at Sagamore Hill and I can truthfully report that we did a very bad job, by insuring certain things unnecessary to in­sure and not insuring objects that should have been insured.
For example - the collection of books in the Gun Room —
Those under glass case turn out to be duplicates now in the Boone and Crockett collection in Pittsburgh and the other books are valueless to the Boone and Crockett Club, or belonged to Sagamore Hill. The collection is there merely to fill the bookcases.
We recommend that this insurance be cancelled entirely.
The guns now on exhibit after the transaction of the Gun Committee, as recorded above, have direct connection with our founder or members of his family. They are, therefore, irre­placeable.
We recommend that they be insured only to the extent that in case of loss for any cause, there will be enough money to replace them with guns that would at least give an idea of the original use the Gun Room was put to by our founder.
The article of real value, the Rungius painting, we did not insure at all, and undoubtedly, has a market value of five figures. We recommend that this piece be valued and commensur­ate insurance be put on it immediately.
We suggest that the details of these transactions be put in the hands of Sherman Gray, with power to act.
As indicated in the Minutes of the last Executive Committee Meeting it is our recommendation that the moneys received from the sale of guns (I above) be put in the General Purpose Fund of the Club.
Respectfully submitted,
(Signed)
Archibald B. Roosevelt, Chairman December 4, 1972 Sagamore Hill Committee "
This report was unanimously accepted with particular note regarding recommendations on insurance as to the remaining guns and the Rungius painting. Mr. Gray was instructed to see these coverages properly adjusted and to include the Rungius painting.
Oc FUTURE MEETING DATES
See Minutes this date "Organization of Executive Committee for 1973"
9. There being no further business, the meeting adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Alfred Ely, Jr.
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Copies to: All Present and Absent
Messrs: Pullman - 2
Gray - 2 Ely - 2 Ferguson - 2 Office - 2 Minute Book •s' Also to Messrs* Thompson, Batten,Rikhoff
Boone and Crockett Club
Minutes of the Executive Committee Meeting of the Boone and Crockett Club held December 6, 1972 at the Racquet Club, 370 Park Avenue, New York City, New York.
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
Richard Borden Marshall S. Carter Frank Cook Alfred Ely, Jr.
Robert M. Ferguson
Sherman Gray C. R. Gutermuth John W. Hanes, Jr.
Duncan M. Hodgson George R. McCullough James A. Oliver Jack S. Parker
Daniel A. Poole Arthur C. Popham, Jr. Frederick C. Pullman John E. Rhea Archibald B. Roosevelt William I. Spencer Edward G. Zern
Wallace C. Dayton
Fairman R. Dick
Henry Clay Frick II, M.D.
Donald S. Hopkins John J. McCloy II Charles F. Nadler, M.D. Dr. M.. Graham Netting
Robert C. Reeve Elmer M. Rusten, M.D. Samuel B. Webb George W. Wyckoff, Jr.
Exec., *74; Chmn,,Cons. Com.
Exec., *72; Cons. Com.
Exec., * 73; NABG Cora.
Secretary; Chmn., Memb. Com.
Hon. Life; Chmn;*, Fin. Com., Memb.
Com., Sagamore Hill Com.
Treasurer Cons. Com.
Exec., T72; Fin. Com.
1st V.P.; NABG Com., Cons. Com.
Exec., '72; Ed. & Hist.
V.P., *73; Cons. Com.
Exec., *73; Fin. Cora.; Chmn., NABG Com.; Ed. & Hist. Com.
V.P., *72; Vice-Chran., Cons. Cora.
1st V,P.
President
Exec., *73; Memb. Com.; NABG Com.
Hon. Pres. Life; Sagamore Hill Cora. Exec., *74; Fin. Com.; NABG Com.
V. P., *74; Edit. & Hist. Com.
V. P., *73; Cons. Com.
Hon. Life
Exec., *74; Cons. Com.; Saganore Hill Com.
NABG Com.
Asst. Treas.; Fin. Com.
V. P., *72; NABG Cora.
V. P., *74; Cons. Com.; Chmn., Edit.
& Hist. Com.; Memb. Com.
Hon. Life Member; NABG Com.; Cons. Com. 1st V. P.; NABG Com.
NABG Com.
Asst. Secretary
GUESTS:
The following members attended by invitation:
Joseph P. Linduska Richard D. Reeve (Proxy for R.C.Reeve)
Mr. Pullman, President called the meeting to order at 10:00 a.m. and Mr. Ely, Secretary, assisted by Mr. Hanes, took the minutes.
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1. Upon motion duly made and seconded, the minutes of the Executive Com­mittee Meeting of September 16, 1972 were approved as circulated.
2. Secretary’s Report - Mr. Alfred Ely, Jr., Secretary
A. DEATHS - None since 9/16/72
B. TRANSFERS - None
C. ELECTION OF NEW MEMBERS - Nathaniel P. Reed A '72
D. MEMBERSHIP TOTALS - Regular: 99 Honorary: 4
Emeriti: 12 Associate: 54
E. CANDIDATES: Emeriti: Bayard W. Read
c Honorary and Associate: None
Regular: Dan W. Maddox
Bayard W. Read: Regular 1952. A letter from Mr. Read was
presented. Because of health reasons he expressed a desire that his place be taken by someone who could participate actively in Club affairs.
It was unanimously agreed that he be transferred
to Emeritus status. The Secretary was instructed to so write
Mr. Read, expressing regards from his many friends.
Dan W. Maddox: Letters from Messrs. Rhea (proposer), Ferguson,
Batten, K. Roosevelt and Dr. Netting were presented in support of proposal for Regular Membership.
After brief discussion on his qualifications,
and strong support from those present, the Secretary was in­structed
to place his name on ballot for mailing to Regular and Honorary members in accordance with By-Laws.
3. Treasurer and Finance Reports:
A. Review Annual Audit - Mr. Gray, Treasurer.
i. Copies of Annual Audit closing 6/30/72 were available for review. (Copy attached as Exhibit "B" minutes 9/16/72.)
iio Please note that this report was unanimously accepted at the
September 16, 1972 Executive Committee Meeting. (P. 3Ai, and ii, 9/16/72)
B. Finance Committee Report - Mr. Ferguson, Chairman, i. Report quoted in its entirety:-
"Since the last full report of the Finance Committee dated September 16, 1972, the following changes in the Club’s portfolio have taken place:
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Sold:
Matured:
Bought:
900 Shares of Flintkote $21,262.16
25M U. S. Treasury Bills (inc. $233.30) 25,000.00
Cash Balance - October 31, 1972
500 Aztec Oil and Gas 200 Caterpillar Tractor 500 Jewelcor
Transfer Tax - Barber Oil
Balance in Principal Account Less Interest due Income Account
176.03 46,438.19
12,311.27
12,980.00
13,232.06
38,523.33
______.53 38,523.86
7,914.33 233c30
$ 7,681.03
A meeting of the Investment Committee was held at the Lunch Club on October 30, 1972 - Present: Mr. Gray (host), Mr. McCloy,
Mr. Ferguson and Mr. Koplin of Wertheim & Co., at which meeting the above transactions were agreed upon.
The Treauurer tells me that including a check that was just received for the balance of the gun collection, in the amount of $9,650 and other receipts for the sale of Record Books and con­tributions, we have in the banks and at Wertheim approximately $25,000- If I can extract this money from the Treasurer, we will have another meeting of the Finance Committee this month for- the purpose of putting it to work.
The following is a summary of the investment portfolio as of December 1, 1972:
Indicated
Cost
Market
Income
500
Aztec Oil & Gas Co.
$ 12,311.27
$ 12,125.00
$ 560.00 *
21
Barber Oil
Gift
900.00
51.45 *
200
Caterpillar Tractor
12,980.00
13,650.00
280.00
700
Flying Tiger Pfd. 1.20
cv. 23,805.64
34,562,50
840.00
400
General Electric
22,342.71
27,450.00
560.00
75
Intern’1 Bus. Machines
20,575.09
29,850.00
405.00
500
Intern’1 Tel. and Tel.
26,768.64
29,875.00
620.00
1,000
Jewelcor
.26,653.31
29,625.00
600
Marcor
17,329.53
18,225.00
480.00
400
Squibb Corp.
17,509.15
38,950.00
624.00
$180,275.34
$235,212.50
$4,420.45
*Stock
Respectfully submitted,
(Signed)
Robert M. Ferguson, Chairman
tt
December 4, 1972
ii. The Finance Committee Report was unanimously accepted as presented.
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3. C. OTHER BUSINESS - (Finance Com. Rep. cont.)
i. Natural Resources Council of America - It was proposed, seconded and unanimously carried that the Treasurer be authorized to pay $100 to this Council covering our dues for 1973.
It was further agreed that President Pullman designate a member as our Official Delegate.
ii.Suggestions for adjusting accounting away from separate fund concept. (Follow-up from 9/16/72, #3, A, iv)
Following considerable discussion it was unanimously agreed that Mthe separate fund" concept be continued, without clanges.
4. NORTH AMERICAN BIG GAME
A. RECORDS COMMITTEE REPORT - Mr. Jack Parker, Chairman i. Report quoted in its entirety:
"MEETING OF 7FE NORTH AMERICAN BIG GAME COMMITTEE - NEW YORK CITY
DECEMBER 5, 1972
A meeting of the North American Big Game Committee was held at 4 oTclock, Tuesday afternoon, December 5. Present were Frank Cook, Duncan Hodgson, Art Popham, Dick Reeve, John Rhea, Phil Wright,
Bob Ely, Fred Pullman, Bob Ferguson, Archie Roosevelt, and Jack Parker. The following matters were discussed:
1. In view of an increasing number of queries with regard to the validity of trophies taken from preserves, Indian reservations, or ranches devoted to hunting and the importance of these arrange­ments to the future preservation of game, the question of eligibility of trophies taken under such conditions for record purposes and/or competition was at issue. Many factors are involved, including the extent of such preserves, restraining enclosures, observance of state game regulations, etc. After some discussion Art Popham was requested to study out this problem and come up with recommendations for consideration of the North American Big Game Committee at its next meetingo
2„ A number of Desert Sheep have been transplanted from Nevada and Southern California into Eastern Oregon. The question has been raised as to whether or not trophies of these sheep taken in Oregon can be properly classified as Desert Sheep for Record Book purposes. This is a matter which concerns a possibility of the transplanted sheep intermingling with other sheep which may previously have been in the area, as well as habitat. It was sug­gested that Dr. Cowan is very knowledgeable on this front, and accordingly Fred Pullman was requested to be in touch with him to obtain his advice and recommendations with regard $o accepting sheep taken in this area as Desert Sheep.
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4.A.i. NORTH AMERICAN BIG GAME (Cont.)
3. As we all know, we have in the past accepted the establish­ment of necessarily arbitrary boundaries as lines of demarcation between one specie and another, i.e., Canada Moose vs. Yukon Moose, Mule Deer vs. Blacktail Deer, etc. A number of trophies have been submitted for record which have been taken fairly close to these lines. With strict interpretation of the boundaries in some cases these have placed well up in the records, where had they been taken just the other side of the b oundary they would not have made the Book at all. Phil Wright is going to make a study of this and provide recommendations for the consideration of the North American Big Game Committee with regard to the possibility of es­tablishing a cleaner and more equitable method of handling these cases.
4. The status report on the additional submissions for inclusion in the Record Bock during the past year was provided„
5. It is our understanding that the Executive Committee passed a resolution which required any trophy listed in the first 10 of the Records to have been measured by the Panel of Judges. This has provided inequities in that there are a number of trophies now in­cluded among the first 10 which have never been measured under such conditions, and alternatively we know of at least one case where a
trophy has been omitted from the Book altogether because it was not
so measured. In order to establish a more equitable condition and do our best to insure tlat all appropriate trophies be properly rec­ognized, the North American Big Game Committee recommends to the Executive Committee that its prior resolution be rescinded in favor of the following:
"All trophies which would find their place in the first ten of that particular specie in the Record
Book, will be measured by two Official Measurers
and the scores submitted. If these scores are judged consistent, the higher of the two values will be accepted for record purposes -- recogniz­ing that there nnay be a time lapse of consequence between the two measurements. The acceptance of these scores will be at the discretion of the North American Big Game Committee and should there be significant variations or out-of-tolerance dif­ferences, a third measurement by still another Official Measurer will be requested before the scores are accepted for inclusion in the Record.
Final disposition will be at the discretion of the North American Big Game Committee.
6. Over the past six months at the request of the President of the Boone and Crockett Club an ad hoc committee has been working with the National Rifle Association to see whether or not mutually acceptable and mutually beneficial arrangements could be made to involve the National Rifle Association in the matter of keeping records of North American 3ig Game. After initial meetings were
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4.A.i• NORTH AMERICAN BIG GAME (Cont.)
held with the National Rifle Association this matter was discussed by the Executive Committee in September at Coleman Lake. Meanwhile the detailed information with regard to our discussion with the NRA was distributed to all members of the North American Big Game Com­mittee and written responses have been received from all but one member.
After the session at Coleman Lake the ad hoc committee put together very much more detailed recommendations with regard to how responsi­bilities and authorities would be divided between tie National Rifle Association and the Boone and Crockett Club. These were submitted to the NRA for their consideration and the response accepting this division of the work was received from their Executive Vice Presi­dent, Maxwell Rich. Copies of these two documents are attached to these minutes as Items I and II. A lengthy discussion was held within the Committee meeting, and it is only fair to report that the conclusion was not at all unanimous. The principal concerns expressed were:
1. That this arrangement would lead to the demise of the Boone and Crockett Club.
2. A genuine concern for the Nationa . Pifle Association image as it would reflect on the Boone and Crockett Club.
3. The possibility that any such arrangement would be incom­patible with accurate record keeping.
On the other hand, it was brought out
1« That to do this job properly entailed arrangements and expense which the Boone and Crockett Club is not now at least in any position to handle;
2. That the policing of fair chase, Official Measurers, con­tacts with the Fish and Game Commissions throughout the country and other activities of this nature could be under­taken oy the National Rifle Association where it is not possible with the Boone and Crockett organization;
3. The access to communication machinery for hunting ethics, fair chase, and matters of this nature would be readily available through the NRA;
4. The NRA has the basic machinery to serve the sportsmen/ hunter population of this country far more effectively than anything the Boone and Crocmett Club could do even if it continues its present service on the best possible basis; and finally
5. That acting as a catalyst we may be able to help change the image of the NRA which has brought such concern to this discussion in a more favorable and useful direction.
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4.A.i .6. NORTH AMERICAN BIG GAME (Cont.)
On the motion made and seconded, it was voted to recommend to the Executive Committee of the Boone and Crockett Club that arrangements be made to work with the National Rifle Association in the matter of keeping records and conducting competitions along the lines con­tained in the Ferguson memorandum. As a matter of record I must report that the vote was 9 to 5, including negative votes from 3 members not present at the meeting, but which the Chairman believes should be so recorded. In consequence of the affirmative handling of this motion, the North American Big Game Committee submits this to the Executive Committee for their consideration and appropriate action.
NABG - ITEM I
Memorandum to: Mr. Jack S. Parker November 2, 1972
From: Robert M. Ferguson
Further to our meeting in Washington on October 24th with John Rhea, I have studied the notes which we put together for further analysis and come up with the following comments. I hasten to add that since I was never an active member of the NABGC, but more or less an observer, there are certain
problems which I am not qualified to discuss from experience, so some of my
thoughts should be considered as off-the-cuff opinions, based on what, theo­retically, should happen in the over-all picture under discussion.
My comments are based on the theory that we may make a positive effort through the NRA to expand and promote the activities of the NABGC. They are also based on the proposition that the NABGC will continue to be the most active side of such an arrangement until they are satisfied that certain responsibilities can be handed along to the National Rifle Association, based on their interest, intent and performance. Perhaps, this transition period might take several years.
I. SCORING
A. Scoring Methods - As pointed out in your letter of August 8th
to Max Rich and his reply of August 15th, this would remain
the responsibility of the NABGC.
B. Standards - This should also remain the responsibility of the NABGC. Judges - This item should be broken down as a joint operation:
1. The NABGC initially to set standards for selection of Official Measurers.
2. The selection of the Panel of Judges might be arranged jointly, with the Boone and Crockett Club perhaps nominating the Chair­man of the Judges.
3o The policing of scoring chart submissions and coordination (involvement) with the appropriate state fish and wildlife agencies should be the responsibility of the NRA with an assist where possible by the NABGC.
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4, NABG - ITEM I* (Cont.)
11• COMPETITIONS
A. Frequency of competitions should be a joint decision which would allow for flexibility* Another thoughtwhich is not in our notes is that there are several local or "area competitions" now carried on, for example, the Alaskan Big Game Club, the Coues Deer in Tucson, and I believe Colorado has a local competition within the State, etc., where these local competitions request authority to use our scoring sheets and rules - I believe the NABGC should reserve such permission unto itself for the time being*
B. Judging - including arrangement, location space, etc., this should be the responsibility of the NRA, subject of course, to selection of the judges per 1. C. above*
C. Location and Arrangements necessary for awards and presentation — This, I believe, should again be the responsibility of the NRA with -ccooperation of the NABGC*
Publicity - Certainly the NRA is in a better position to push the broadcast publicity, but I feel this should be a joint arrangement so that where the Boone and Crockett name is involved, it would have a veto on anything that smacked too strongly of the commercial.
E* Determination of Awards - including classification, numbers, limitations — This again should be a joint endeavor between the NRA and the NABGC.
F. Host Responsibility for the Competition Activities - This should be the responsibility of the NRA.
111• HEPPED KEEPING
A. Listing - including verification of appropriate classification for each submission* This should be the responsibility of the NRA.
B. Maintenance of up-to-date files on all submissions and up-dating computer tape - Responsibility of NRA.
C. Responding to correspondence with attention to specific inquiry in regard to classification, scoring method, eligibility and address of Official Measurer — Over a period of time, the NRA would ultimately assume this responsibility but it may well need some help from the NABGC. However, we would hope that they would ultimately have someone able to handle all the correspondence, both from a scientific and a practical point of view.
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III.D. Publication of the -“Records of North American Big Game” -
It is my feeling that with rtespect to the publication of future Records Books, the NRA should be responsible for all the listings and the production of the book* Perhaps, they would agree to call it "A Boone and Crockett Club Book Published by the National Rifle Association*11 The editorial part of the book, I feel would probably have to be a joint effort of the NRA and an Editorial Committee appointed by the Boone and Crockett Club*
E. Interpretation of Standards - where a more sophisticated examin­ation of a particular case is involved, I believe should remain as a responsibility of the NABGC*
F. Recognition of Species to be included - including official designation of sub-species and boundaries for the guidance of both hunters and measurers* This should initially remain the responsibility of the NABGC until such time as we are satisfied that the NRA group, along with cooperation from Fish and Game authorities are qualified to designate with respect to sub­species and boundaries*
G„ Maintenance of the scientific integrity and validity of Records as published - This would have to be, in my opinion, a joint responsibility with most of the input initially coming from the NABGC.
IV.FAIR CHASE
A. The establishment of minimum fair chase standards - Since the Boone and Crockett Club has established these standards, I think they should retain the responsibility for final approval of any future changes which it is felt would enhance the current creed as written in our By-Laws.
B. The enforcement of Fair Chase to the extent this can be accom­plished - This should be the responsibility of the NRA who are
in a far better position to do this than is the Boone and Crockett Club.
C* The right of withdrawal from consideration for Record purposes:
I feel this should be concurred in jointly if for no other reason than to enhance cooperation between the Club and the NRA.
D. The right for elimination of any prior published trophy listing - Since we were responsible for publishing, then I think it would be our responsibility or right to eliminate them.
E. The encouragement and promotion of a more wide-spread hunting ethic consistent with the principles of Fair Chase - This again should be a joint responsibility not only for the reasons pointed out in C above, but since at the moment, our image is more
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(E) related in this field than that of the NRA, we could assume a leadership during the time 1hat their name became more closely associated with hunting ethics and fair chase. They, at the same time, could improve their image by policing and enforcing.
So much for my rather "broad thinking.11 It really comes down to the fact that any agreement, or contract, is about as good as the parties thereto.
We have close ties within the NRA and with a proper amount of effort and willingness to share our knowledge and intent, I would have every hope that the NRA would, as they have indicated, accept this knowledge and intent and give us the proper base to work with over a period of several years in order to put our well conceived and going enterprise on a broader and more productive basis than we are able to do, both from a point of view of people and money. The success of any enterprise is dependent on the amount of effort put into it and I would hope that if we came to an agreement that the NRA would be willing to do more than match the effort which I am sure the Boone and Crockett Club would be willing to contribute.
Of course, in working out such an arrangement, it would be necessary to include an understanding that we could "pick up our dolls and go home” if things did not work out to our satisfaction.
(Signed) Robert M. Ferguson
CC: Mr. Richard Borden
Mr. Frederick C. Pullman Mr. John E. Rhea RMF:hb
NABG - ITEM II
THE NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION 1871 OF AMERICA 1971
November 17, 1972
Mr. Jack S. Parker, Chairman North American Big Game Committee Boone and Crockett Club c/o Carnegie Museum 4400 Forbes Avenue Pittsburgh, Pa. 15213
Dear Mr• Parker:
In a recent conference with Mr. Robert M. Ferguson and John E. Rhea concerning joint conduct of future North American Big Game competitions by the Boone and Crockett Club and the National Rifle
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Association, I had the opportunity to discuss a memorandum dated November 2, 1972, prepared by Mr, Ferguson for your information,
I concur with the findings of the memorandum and offer the following additional comments:
Scoring
Scoring methods and standards are rightfully a responsibility of the Boone and Crockett Club. Boone & Crockett Club's primary attention can best be directed to standards and selection of judges, and NRA!s toward administrative procedures and policing the system of official measurers. I especially concur with the proposition of developing greater involvement of State Fish and Wildlife Agencies in the program.
Competitions
Decisions on the frequency of competitions will require agreement from both partners in this project, I concur with the Boone &
Crockett Club reservations concerning the endorsement of local Big Game competitions. However, I believe that it should be a joint goal to establish standards acceptable for all competitions,and that it is in the interest of all concerned to open lines of communication between Boone & Crockett-NRA and sponsors of other big game competitions. I agree with Mr. Ferguson's observations that arrangements for Judging, publicity and hosting competition activities are rightfully NRA re­sponsibilities and that locations and arrangements for presentation of awards and determination of awards are necessarily joint endeavors.
Recordkeeping
Listing, maintenance of up-to-date files, and correspondence are NRA responsibility. However, a close working relationship between the responsible NRA Staff section and the North American Big Game Committee will be required, particularly in the beginning of the project.
When the time comes to publish the next issue of the records of North American Big Game, I believe it would be wise to establish an editorial board representing both Boone & Crockett and NRA to exercise editorial control, and that due notice and credit be given both organ­izations for their part in the publication of the book.
In all other phases of recordkeeping, Boone & Crockett shall have free access to all files and govern all other matters pertaining to the records.
Fair Chase
Since the Boone & Crockett Club By-Laws enunciate the creed of fair chase, any changes therein can be only by petition on the part of NRA
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and disposition is a sole prerogative of the Boone & Crockett Club, Close cooperation in the encouragement and promotion of a more wide­spread hunting ethic and consistent with the principles of fair chase deserves the full attention of both organizations.
The success of this venture depends on close cooperation between both organizations in pursuit of a common goal. Our agreement can be only as lasting as our mutual contribution toward that goal, and, I believe, if each of our organizations contributes its unique capa-. bility to the project, success is insured.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed)
Maxwell E. Rich Major General (Ret.)
Executive Vice President
MERrjd
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The above report was accepted as presented with particular attention to the following items:
#5 - Change in procedure for measuring trophies which would find their place in the first ten of that particular specie -
Resolution as recommended in above report unanimously accepted.
#6 - Boone and Crockett Club discussions with National Rifle Association regarding the establishment of a joint venture, the keeping of the records, the publishing of future record books and the management of competitions.
Mr. Ferguson’s memorandum dated November 2, 1972 and General Rich's reply of November 17, 1972 were reviewed in detail. This review was followed by a lengthy discussion on "pros ’ and cons" with all participating. Following this discussion, President Pullman read Dr. Netting's letter of December 4, 1972. This letter is quoted:
December 4, 1972
Mr. Fred C. Pullman, President Boone and Crockett Club 50 South LaSalle Street Chicago, Illinois 60690
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4*A i NORTH AMERICAN BIG GAME (Cont.)
Dear Fred:
Enforced bed rest provides uninterrupted hours for brain dusting and for examination of the essentials of a problem without distracting papers at hand that divert attention to details of negotiations. Here follows the distillation of longer concentration on the question of the future of the Boone and Crockett Club than I have ever been able to devote to the subject while caught up in the pressing cares of the moment, courtesy of a bout with viral pneumonia.
During the first two-thirds of its existence, the Club established the primacy of its concern for North American Big Game andibr the wilderness areas it inhabits; these notable achievements are amply detailed in Crusade for Wildlife. Then a small group of highly experienced members, recognizing the pressing need for standardized measuring techniques and a ranking of existing and future trophies as a basis for selective hunting, initiated the Big Game competitions. A whole series of exceptionally able chairmen, judges and editors labored mightily to make the competitions increasingly successful and to preserve the trophy details in the Records books, which also contain excellent anecdotal, historical and conservation articles.
There is no question in my mind that during mpst of this
period the competitions and the books promoted selective hunting
and that most of the entries were ethically obtained. Success, however, contqined the seeds of destruction, because the growing prestige of a high ranking trophy, that made the book, began to attract increasing numbers of hunting rascals who cared not a whit for Fair Chase, Sportsmanship, Conservation or even Game Laws. Guides and outfitters whose clients had a high degree of success in obtaining qualifying trophies, found that their bookings were quickly filled, and some soon demonstrated more interest in money than in the code of gentlemen hunters. Last
year's shocking revelation that there were not less than thirty
(30) wealthy hunters willing to pay up to $3500 to poach endan­gered and protected desert rams has been followed by this year's scandal of even more widespread examples of unfair chase on the part of guides and hunters, and the massacre of as many as 800 desert bighorns in Baja California by hunters from the U. S,, according to a report in the September, 1972 issue of Audubon Magazine (see Xerox attached.)
Without the Big Game competitions and the periodically updated Records books, illegal killings, unfair chase, and other unsportsmanlike activities would still go on but the hunting criminal would gain no national acclaim for his trophy. It is
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my contention that the Boone and Crockett Club now has the opportunity to strike the greatest blow in its history for thepreservation of North American game by discontinuing any further competitions and by sitting tightly upon its copy­right records so that no other organization can possibly use them in any ranking system for the term of these copyrights at least. It should stress that the once honorable sport of trophy hunting has been infiltratedby such a hunting mafia that a meaningful national or international competition (state competitions may still be ably policed) is no longer possible.
If, on the other hand, the Club decides to affiliate with the National Rifle Association in competitions and Records book publishing, the Club’s absolute control of the Records listings will be forever lost. Regardless of the good will and understanding of present leaders of the two organizations no 150-man group can realistically expect to achieve equal voice with a one-million-member organization for an extended period.
I know that the Executive Committee will be giving this matter its profound consideration. I regret deeply that I can­not be present in person to argue my no doubt heretical view. Regardless of the deed sion with respect to the National Rifle affiliation I now feel so convinced that trophy ranking attracts so many unprincipled hunters that I cannot accept reappointment to the Editorial and Historical Committee in any capacity.
I am sending copies of this letter not only to members of the Editorial Committee, but also to the Pittsburgh members of the Boone and Crockett Club, many of whom, I believe, have been forced reluctantly to think along similar lines because of the growing evidence of trophy hunting irregularities they have encountered in various hunting areas.
Sincerely,
(Signed) Graham
M. Graham Netting ,T
There was further discussion relative to policing of Records and Fair Chase as well as contacts with guides’ and outfitters’ associations. (Several of our members have talked before some of these associations and feel they are in favor of policing themselves.)
A motion was made, seconded and carried (two ”No” votes) that the recommendation of the Big Game Committee be accepted, i.e., ’’Arrange­ments be made to work with the National Rifle Association along the lines contained in Mr. Ferguson’s memorandum of November 2, 1972”.
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5# CONSERVATION COMMITTEE - Mr. Richard Borden, Chairman A. CONSERVATION COMMITTEE REPORT - Mr. Borden i.Report as presented is quoted in its entirety:
n REPORT OF THE CONSERVATION COMMITTEE
of the BOONE AND CROCKETT CLUB ANNUAL MEETING Deceiuter 6, 1972 New York City
The Conservation Committee and the Conservation Committee Advisors met in the Mahogany Room of the Harvard Club of New York City at 4:00 p.m. on December 5,,1972, and discussed various con­servation projects that had been brought to the Club’s attention.
1. We reviewed what had been accomplished during the past year since this Chairman took over from Pat Carter. We have given Maurice Hornocker $1000 to complete his Mountain Lion Study.
2. Frank Groves has been given $1250 for the support of Dr. Taylor, who is studying virology with reference to the loss of lambs in the Utah Desert Sheep enclosure.
3. Utah State University, under the direction of Professor Allen W. Stokes, was given $1500 towards his behaviorial study of Brown Bear on the McNeil River in Alaska. The Chairman reported that he had seen a 16mm print of some of the film that had been taken in the course of this study, and he felt that it was quite well handled.
4. We had a request from Lyle Sowls, Unit Leader of the Arizona Cooperative Wildlife Research Unit, for financial assist­ance in the preparation of a monograph on his study into the decline of Whitetail Deer in the mountain ranges of southeastern Arizona. The Committee felt that other conservation agencies should also contribute to the publication of this monograph and that the Boone and Crockett Club should not be expected to pick up the whole tab.
5. The Chairman reported to the Committee on the matter
of the creation of additional National Parks, Wilderness Areas and Wildlife Refuges in northern British Columbia in anticipation that this area will now open up with the railroad and additional access roads. The Chairman reported that he had communicated with Mr. Adolph W. Schmidt, our Ambassador to Canada, and to Mr. David Barrett, the Premier of British Columbia. It appears that some progress has already been made in this direction. It was pointed out that the Club woshes to lend its support in any way possible to see that these fine areas are preserved against exploitation.
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5. CONSERVATION COMMITTEE (Cont.)
A.i. 6. The Conservation Committee discussed the matter of a small committee to review various research projects that come in for consideration. The Chairman was instructed to appoint this committee.
Respectfully submitted,
(Signed)
Richard Borden, Chairman Conservation Committee * ”
ii. The above report was unanimously approved with particular attention to:
(a) Approval of financial support to Sowls Whitetail Monograph- $625. Other appropriations previously approved.
B. GRANTS COMMITTEE (9/16/72 #5 Bi) - to be done by next meeting.
C. OTHER BUSINESS -
i. Budget for Conservation Committee. After discussion it was proposed, second and unanimously carried that the Conservation Com­mittee be authorized to spend up to $4,000, this amount and ex­penses to be reviewed at each Executive Committee meeting.
ii. Techniques for Measuring N,. A. Big Game. 24 prints sold to date at a net receipt of about $1,000 so far. This does not take into consideration the original expense covered by Mr. Olin’s donation of $6,000, nor of Mr. Borden’s out-of-pocket expense.
Mr. Poole has offered more publicity. Mr. Borden will coordin­ate with him.
6. NOMINATING COMMITTEE REPORT, Mr. Ferguson, Chairman
Slate to be presented at Annual Meeting was read for general infor­mation and is quoted:
Nominating Committee Report
Honorary President
President
Secretary
Assistant Secretary Treasurer
Assistant Treasurer First Vice Presidents
Archibald B. Roosevelt Frederick C. Pullman Alfred Ely, Jr.
John W. Hanes, J£r, Sherman Gray John J. McCloy II
C. R. Gutermuth Duncan M. Hodgson Elmer M. Rusten
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6. NOMINATING COMMITTEE REPORT (Cont. )
Vice .Presidents
Class of 1973
Class of 1974
Class of 1975
Wallace C. Dayton James A. Oliver
M. Graham Netting Edward G. Zern
John H. Batten Ian McTaggart Cowan
Executive Committee
Class of 1973
Class of 1974
Class of 1975
Frank Cook Jack S. Parker John E. Rhea
Richard Borden Charles F. Nadler
Henry Clay Frick II Arthur C. Popham, Jr.
William I. Spencer James A. Thompson
7. OTHER BUSINESS
A. Editorial and Historical Committee
i. Mr. Ely reported that Graham Netting, confined to his home by illness, had telephoned to report on behalf of the Editorial and Historical Committee that sales of the 1971 Edition of North American Big Game had totalled 6,635 copies as of December 4, out of a total printing of 8,008 published one year ago. The total sales can be broken down into 3,489 individual sales and 3,146 through dealers. Subtraction of 426 copies sent to Offic­ial Measurers, authors, reviewers, etc., and ten copies replaced by reason of losses in shipment leaves a remainder on hand of 937 copies. Christmas sales are expected to exceed the recent average of 100 copies per month so this edition may be expected to go out of print in the summer of 1973. Miss Ida Mae Shoemaker, who handled the book distribution on a part-time basis in a highly efficient manner, plans to resign at the end of the month, but is looking for someone to take her place.
ii. Reprint of *71 Records Book - Messrs. Ferguson and Rhea.
Due to logistics and timing it was not possible to reprint in time for Christmas season. Hence, this matter is to be placed in the hands of the Editorial Committee. Authorization for ad­vertising and printing remains the same as stated in 9/16/72 minutes #7 B ii. Suggested quantity, 5,000.
iii. Crusade for Wildlife. Now have 1,500 copies at printers available for sale. Thus reprint not called for at this time.
Mr. Gutermuth will contact Stackpole to arrange for purchase at discount of 50 copies for B & C office. In this way we can benefit by shipping from the office at retail.
Further, it was proposed, seconded and approved that the Secre­tary send (and bill) each new member a copy of CRUSADE, stating that it is required reading for all members.
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7. OTHER BUSINESS (Cont.)
A. iv. Mr, Sheldon’s request to reprint chapter in ’’Hunting and Con­servation”
(B & C 1925) by his father on Big Game in Chihuahua was unanimously approved, Mr, Pullman to so advise him,
B. SAGAMORE HILL AND GUN COMMITTEE REPORTS.
i. Gun Committee - Mr. Ferguson
Report as presented is quoted in its entirety:
” First the good news — Guns - For those of you who can and should have read the exclusive, limited offer of the Club’s surplus guns to members should be familiar with the undertaking. To avoid repetition, the limited offer expired October 31st and the membership bought eight of the thirty firearms for a net sum to the Club of $2,768,00. Since that time, your Gun Committee (Messrs. Gray, Rikhoff, Ferguson) agreed and have sold the balance of the arsenal to N. Flay- derman & Co., Inc. for a net sum of $9,650.00, bringing the total received for all surplus cumulation of artillery to $12,418.00.
May I say that dealing with Norm Flayderman (whom I first described as a ’’most congenial and impressive gun dealer, consultant, appraiser, etc.”) proved to be a real pleasure and your Committee wishes to record our thanks for his help, thoughtfulness and cooperation.
We have retained at Sagamore eleven guns which were either used by Theodore Roosevelt or have a direct relation to the family. His favorite rifle is on display in a separate and prominent case in the National Rifle Association Museum in Washington.
For the Gun Committee
(Signed)
Robert M. Ferguson, Chairman ”
This report was unanimously accepted with particular note to the $12,418 received which will be added to the General Purpose Funds of the Club.
ii. Sagamore Kill Committee - Mr. Roosevelt.
Report as presented is quoted in its entirety:
” Now for the Bad News! Insurance -- The Sagamore Hill Committee was put in charge of seeing that adequate insurance was placed on the possessions of the Boone and Crockett Club
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at Sagamore Hill and I can truthfully report that we did a very bad job, by insuring certain things unnecessary to in­sure and not insuring objects that should have been insured.
For example - the collection of books in the Gun Room —
Those under glass case turn out to be duplicates now in the Boone and Crockett collection in Pittsburgh and the other books are valueless to the Boone and Crockett Club, or belonged to Sagamore Hill. The collection is there merely to fill the bookcases.
We recommend that this insurance be cancelled entirely.
The guns now on exhibit after the transaction of the Gun Committee, as recorded above, have direct connection with our founder or members of his family. They are, therefore, irre­placeable.
We recommend that they be insured only to the extent that in case of loss for any cause, there will be enough money to replace them with guns that would at least give an idea of the original use the Gun Room was put to by our founder.
The article of real value, the Rungius painting, we did not insure at all, and undoubtedly, has a market value of five figures. We recommend that this piece be valued and commensur­ate insurance be put on it immediately.
We suggest that the details of these transactions be put in the hands of Sherman Gray, with power to act.
As indicated in the Minutes of the last Executive Committee Meeting it is our recommendation that the moneys received from the sale of guns (I above) be put in the General Purpose Fund of the Club.
Respectfully submitted,
(Signed)
Archibald B. Roosevelt, Chairman December 4, 1972 Sagamore Hill Committee "
This report was unanimously accepted with particular note regarding recommendations on insurance as to the remaining guns and the Rungius painting. Mr. Gray was instructed to see these coverages properly adjusted and to include the Rungius painting.
Oc FUTURE MEETING DATES
See Minutes this date "Organization of Executive Committee for 1973"
9. There being no further business, the meeting adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Alfred Ely, Jr.
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