Why is it necessary to legalize the roughly 11 million currently-illegal immigrants in the U.S. before newly enhanced border security and internal enforcement measures are in place? Sen. Marco Rubio, the leading Republican on the Senates Gang of Eight, says part of the reason is that the federal government cant afford to secure the border on its own and needs financial help from the immigrants themselves, in the form of fines paid when they are legalized.

Rubio made the statement during a radio interview after he voted against an amendment from Republican Sen. Charles Grassley that would have put off legalization until after the border is secure  a position supported by majorities of voters across the political spectrum. Host Andrea Tantaros asked Rubio why he opposed something that was important to so many in the Republican party?

“Sen. Marco Rubio, the leading Republican on the Senates Gang of Eight, says part of the reason is that the federal government cant afford to secure the border on its own and needs financial help from the immigrants themselves, in the form of fines paid when they are legalized. “

Rubio removing all doubt as to the degree of idiot he is.

Billions for foreign adventures though.

The beltway gang has nothing but contempt for the people that pay their salaries. The septic tank needs to be drained.

This guy has no respect for the American voters, especially Republicans. If he is down to using border security as a reason for promoting the border’s violators, he has sold the last vestige of his soul.

The guy's a fool. We don't want 11 million more illegals. Send them home. Put them in prison. Jail the people who hire them.

Americans are burdened up to the hilt. We have children to help, Detroit to support on disability, the IRS and their lavish parties, the FBI to pay to spy on American citizen who happen to be conservative... The country we loved is becoming a third world hellhole.

It's enough. Our generosity is tapped out. Our taxes are high enough. The country.s broke. Isn't that enough? We gave and gave and gave and we're tired of it. If Rubio wants to personally support a few hundred of these people he can do it...he can send them checks from his own account.

Well, if the Obama’s would just stay home from Africa, we would have more than enough money to pay for border security. Really, the politicians are totally out of the loop. People in this country are totally sick of this phoney baloney politics.

[[Were so hungry for a Conservative that we fall in love the first nice thing they say.]]

And that’s precisely what’s happening- peopel need to slow down, wait, and see the real condidates before leaping on the bandwagons and gettign burned like we have been-

So far I’m liking (I think) what I’m hearing coem from Ted Cruz- but who knows, that coudl change as well too

Rubio is delusional if he htink granting millions of ‘wards of the state’ (which is what a LOT of illegals are- livign off welfare, not working- collecting food stamps, SS and even disability (although they were perfectly healthy when they crossed miles and miles of deserts to cross over into our country)) atre goign to ‘pay for border control’ How? With AMERICAN’S Money to begin with? With food Stamps?

(Note- I am NOT suggesting all illegal imigrants are on welfare and won’t work, there are infact many good people, hard workign individuals who do truly just want a better life- and are willign to work and contribute to htis coutnry if given hte opportunity to do so- but stats shwo an alrmingly high number of illegals ARE on welfare, do collect food stamps, ARE abusign our systems, and the stats also show an alarmingly high number of VIOLENT CRIMINALS coem across the border every year- to the tune of 80,000 violent criminals every year- every one of these 80,000 will ahve to move to a neighborhood somewhere- and be a danger to that whole comunity- Is thsi the person Rubio thinsk is goign to give a crap abotu obeying our laws and paying for border security?

Rubio is not going to let it go, is he. He has made a fool of himself by taking so many stances. So, now he is in this tangle. I guess he will have this image of at least he really really cares about the people of the shadows. He loves the attention. He could be another John McCain in the making.

I originally just thought he's merely another phony, lying politician, pretending we didn't remember when he uttered the words, that he'd never, ever vote for any bill that didn't put border security first!

Back in the 1970’s I would accept the mainstream media’s characterization of someone as a “conservative” and then get burned when they said or did something different.

Now we’ve got talk show hosts saying guys like Rubio and Ryan are “conservative” and I get a laugh out of it because I’m not being fooled anymore.

The mask is off and all the tough speeches and YES votes on phony symbolic bills or NO votes on bad bills that end up getting passed anyway mean nothing to me.

Over 90 percent of the Republican elected officials are phonies with no principles.

Those 70 or so folks who are challenging Boehner on amnesty for illegal immigrants are just putting on a smoke blowing show to make it look good for us folks back home and help win their primaries next year.

I will not vote for my GOP Congressman in the primary or general election next year because he is a phony who supported Boehner for Speaker in the first place.

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posted on 06/13/2013 8:50:30 PM PDT
by Nextrush
(A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)

Were so hungry for a Conservative that we fall in love the first nice thing they say.

That's exactly what we all need to do. It's a shame this doesn't occur to everyone. And thats precisely whats happening- peopel need to slow down, wait, and see the real condidates before leaping on the bandwagons and gettign burned like we have been-

Same here. I keep a low profile on it, because I am also concerned that he's go south. I hope and pray that he doesn't. So far Im liking (I think) what Im hearing coem from Ted Cruz- but who knows, that coudl change as well too

Sadly, I agree. Rubio is delusional if he htink granting millions of wards of the state (which is what a LOT of illegals are- livign off welfare, not working- collecting food stamps, SS and even disability (although they were perfectly healthy when they crossed miles and miles of deserts to cross over into our country)) atre goign to pay for border control How? With AMERICANS Money to begin with? With food Stamps?

I agree with this. There are hard working folks too. None the less, they DO NOT belong here. We can't have an enclave of 30,000,000 people here who are citizens of other nations. That's about 75% of the population of California, the most populace state in the nation. Spread these people around and they can impact negatively the elections in half or more of the states in our nation. We can't simply look at them and go limp. We have to face the problem, and them going home is the only right thing to do. We cannot bastardize our laws to accomodate the invading hoards. And that is what is on the table right now. (Note- I am NOT suggesting all illegal imigrants are on welfare and wont work, there are infact many good people, hard workign individuals who do truly just want a better life- and are willign to work and contribute to htis coutnry if given hte opportunity to do so- but stats shwo an alrmingly high number of illegals ARE on welfare, do collect food stamps, ARE abusign our systems, and the stats also show an alarmingly high number of VIOLENT CRIMINALS coem across the border every year- to the tune of 80,000 violent criminals every year- every one of these 80,000 will ahve to move to a neighborhood somewhere- and be a danger to that whole comunity- Is thsi the person Rubio thinsk is goign to give a crap abotu obeying our laws and paying for border security?

But that shtick must have come from on high (GOPe), as lately various Republican hacks have tried to convince me that all will be well because the tens of millions of illegals will pay enough taxes to avoid economic collapse - just in time too!

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posted on 06/13/2013 9:04:55 PM PDT
by MichaelCorleone
(Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)

I am still developing a sense of what a Conservative is. We should all evaluate such things as we mature. Some folks don't. That's a shame, and a national disgrace. I voted for the Republican in all elections, but I was fooled by slight of hand a lot. I didn't realize how Left Nixon was. Other Republicans of the day were problematic as I grew up. It wasn't until the early 1990s that I began to see things more clearly, and realized I still had a lot to learn. Back in the 1970s I would accept the mainstream medias characterization of someone as a conservative and then get burned when they said or did something different.

I agree. And the real shame is, Ryan (the younger) has some great instincts. Unfortunately he has bitten off a big mouth full of B. S. in this immigration debate IMO. I'm glad you're not fooled anymore. At least you're asking the right questions. Now weve got talk show hosts saying guys like Rubio and Ryan are conservative and I get a laugh out of it because Im not being fooled anymore.

They should mean something to you. We should give credit where credit is due, and be skeptical knowing what we know. I don't have a problem with giving Clinton some credit if he does the right thing. I have been known to do so a time or two. I wouldn't overplay it though. I gave a very qualified approval on the point only. The mask is off and all the tough speeches and YES votes on phony symbolic bills or NO votes on bad bills that end up getting passed anyway mean nothing to me.

I have come to that conclusion also. Over 90 percent of the Republican elected officials are phonies with no principles.

To be honest, I think some of them are serious. I honestly can't say how many of them are just blowing smoke. I fear it's a lot more of them than I would like to think it is. Those 70 or so folks who are challenging Boehner on amnesty for illegal immigrants are just putting on a smoke blowing show to make it look good for us folks back home and help win their primaries next year.

If he's in the general, I'd support voting for him. I would do everything in my power to make sure he wasn't though. I understand your thoughts on it, and I have withheld my vote due to Republican intransegence. I will not vote for my GOP Congressman in the primary or general election next year because he is a phony who supported Boehner for Speaker in the first place.

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