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Comments on MetaFilter post TCP/IP via bongo drumsMon, 02 Jun 2008 09:06:45 -0800Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:06:45 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60TCP/IP via bongo drumshttp://www.metafilter.com/72198/TCPIP-via-bongo-drums
<a href="http://eagle.auc.ca/~dreid/">TCP/IP via bongo drums</a> post:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.72198Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:53:42 -0800MeatbombTCP-IPInternetbongodrumBy: DUhttp://www.metafilter.com/72198/TCPIP-via-bongo-drums#2133176
I was going to remark that getting a "standard Windows PC" work right with OEM software was hard enough, let alone bongos but I see they went with a Linux bridge. Heh.
Also, it seems like AudioIP might actually be useful underwater.
Also also: This post is useless without audio.comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.72198-2133176Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:06:45 -0800DUBy: cortexhttp://www.metafilter.com/72198/TCPIP-via-bongo-drums#2133182
<i>Since we have high latency and bandwidth, it was found that the ARP requests were flooding the bongo link.</i>
&lt;3 internetcomment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.72198-2133182Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:11:56 -0800cortexBy: Plutorhttp://www.metafilter.com/72198/TCPIP-via-bongo-drums#2133183
Cf. <a href="http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt?number=1149">RFC-1149</a>: "A Standard for the Transmission of IP Datagrams on Avian Carriers" and <a href="http://www.notes.co.il/benbasat/5240.asp">a real life implementation</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.72198-2133183Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:12:20 -0800PlutorBy: TheOnlyCoolTimhttp://www.metafilter.com/72198/TCPIP-via-bongo-drums#2133184
This is a use of bongos I can approve of.
Usually I am slightly annoyed by the existence of drums that one plays with the hands, because hippies, usually to my experience chill and considerate people, have this huge blind spot where many of them think that sort of drumming is universally appropriate and beloved by all.comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.72198-2133184Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:12:41 -0800TheOnlyCoolTimBy: euphorbhttp://www.metafilter.com/72198/TCPIP-via-bongo-drums#2133190
That's a picture of a conga drum on the front page.comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.72198-2133190Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:18:22 -0800euphorbBy: yhbchttp://www.metafilter.com/72198/TCPIP-via-bongo-drums#2133195
From the bottom of the front page:
<em> *Yes I know that isn't a bongo drum at the top</em>
bongo pwned!comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.72198-2133195Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:21:53 -0800yhbcBy: sdoddhttp://www.metafilter.com/72198/TCPIP-via-bongo-drums#2133200
C'mon, cortex, there's no ARP on the Internet. That's a LAN-only thing. You meant "&lt;3 Ethernet."
There are some super-nerdy jokes ("trumpet winsock," etc.) in the <a href="http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/27/175242">Slashdot comments</a> when this was first posted in 2003. What's killing me is that I distinctly remember watching video of them demonstrating this to their class, but now I can't find it. A single ping took a looong time.
Here's the <a href="http://eagle.auc.ca/~dreid/EXAMPLE.WAV">audio sample</a> from the website (warning: direct link to WAV file).comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.72198-2133200Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:25:20 -0800sdoddBy: flapjax at midnitehttp://www.metafilter.com/72198/TCPIP-via-bongo-drums#2133201
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZUtFZLxEZQ">This guy gonna make your computer asplode</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.72198-2133201Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:26:04 -0800flapjax at midniteBy: a robot made out of meathttp://www.metafilter.com/72198/TCPIP-via-bongo-drums#2133207
<i>Also, it seems like AudioIP might actually be useful underwater. </i>
Audio pulses are in fact used by remote controlled scientific subs in the arctic where cables would likely be cut by ice. I think that the navy uses bouys to do something similar so that subs can get information in real time without surfacing.comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.72198-2133207Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:29:11 -0800a robot made out of meatBy: DUhttp://www.metafilter.com/72198/TCPIP-via-bongo-drums#2133209
But are the audio pulses TCP/IP?
On second thought, you probably DON'T want to transparently present a TCP/IP interface to devices underwater. Some idiot program will think itself above the surface and try to fetch an image or something...comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.72198-2133209Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:31:55 -0800DUBy: grousehttp://www.metafilter.com/72198/TCPIP-via-bongo-drums#2133221
Interesting, but they lose marks by not creating the concomitant RFC.comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.72198-2133221Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:40:52 -0800grouseBy: Blazecock Pileonhttp://www.metafilter.com/72198/TCPIP-via-bongo-drums#2133234
<em>Interesting, but they lose marks by not creating the concomitant RFC.</em>
Request for congas?comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.72198-2133234Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:52:00 -0800Blazecock PileonBy: nebulawindphonehttp://www.metafilter.com/72198/TCPIP-via-bongo-drums#2133251
A Request For Cowbell is more traditional, I think.comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.72198-2133251Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:01:11 -0800nebulawindphoneBy: invitapriorehttp://www.metafilter.com/72198/TCPIP-via-bongo-drums#2133378
This is pretty cool! It reminds me a lot of a more practical project, which was TCP/IP via infrared light shone over small distances, to eliminate the need for wiring over distances that are reasonably short but still infeasible to send CAT-5 over.
<i>Usually I am slightly annoyed by the existence of drums that one plays with the hands, because hippies, usually to my experience chill and considerate people, have this huge blind spot where many of them think that sort of drumming is universally appropriate and beloved by all.</i>
If it makes you feel any better, actual hand percussionists are annoyed by hippie drum players too, because their drum playing is roughly analogous to gracelessly strumming a guitar with all the strings open.
Give bongos a chance!comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.72198-2133378Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:06:18 -0800invitaprioreBy: kiltedtacohttp://www.metafilter.com/72198/TCPIP-via-bongo-drums#2133680
This is how Richard Feynman would have invented the internet.comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.72198-2133680Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:35:51 -0800kiltedtacoBy: Sys Rqhttp://www.metafilter.com/72198/TCPIP-via-bongo-drums#2133691
<em>This post is useless without audio.</em>
There is audio on the page labeled "Pictures"comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.72198-2133691Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:41:03 -0800Sys RqBy: vsynchttp://www.metafilter.com/72198/TCPIP-via-bongo-drums#2133909
Neat stuff. But from the linked page, <q>the lower layers of the OSI model</q>. OSI, really? Is anyone still pretending that matters?comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.72198-2133909Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:53:37 -0800vsyncBy: grousehttp://www.metafilter.com/72198/TCPIP-via-bongo-drums#2134235
The OSI model is usually brought up in any introductory networking text. Using the model is not the same thing as using their protocols (some of which are still in use as well).comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.72198-2134235Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:52:07 -0800grouseBy: BrotherCainehttp://www.metafilter.com/72198/TCPIP-via-bongo-drums#2134244
Next up: using silbo to query google up to a mile away from your PC.comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.72198-2134244Tue, 03 Jun 2008 00:09:38 -0800BrotherCaine