Sunday, October 01, 2006

NFL Comments Tailgate

Please weigh in on the Story of the Day (Clemens Scandal!) below. But use this post to comment all day long about NFL Week 4. Pre-game, mid-game and post-game: Have your say here and write the first draft of NFL conventional wisdom, as it happens!

I always thought it was a tad unfair that everyone jumped on Barry Bonds immediately, but left the questionable white athletes alone (Clemens, et al). Which brings me to football. We know FO SHO that football players are taking that stuff like candy, but football is so popular that no one wants to even look into it. Sound familiar? Like baseball '98, or so?

The cynic in me feels that they should just start a league where all PEDs are allowed. Just like that old SNL skit where the weightlifter tries to lift an ungodly amount of weight and his arms fall off. Good stuff.

Yeah a professional juiced league woul dbe great for baseball and football. I nominate brian bosworth and Jose Canseco as the respective commisioners. How about you get suspended if you have too little drugs in your system. I still think that all pro leagues should overlook pot though. The only performance it probably enhances is on Madden.

Mike Vick just got picked off at the goal line and then completely quit on the play while the Arizona safety ran right past him and 96 yard for the touch down. Vick is not a leader and that is the main reason he will never be a championship QB.

I will laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh if the Saints end up winning this game. DeShaun Foster should have laid down as soon as he got the 1st down, and ended the game right there. Scoring that TD actually gave the Saints life because they get the ball back with 1:35 and can onside kick it to get the ball back.

The Panthers get lucky. DeShaun Foster almost cost them the game by not laying down. When given the choice of end the game now as is or get some points but give the ball to the other team. End the game NOW.

Haynesworth puts a cleat on Gurode's forehead and causes a gash that needs 30 stitches and takes the Cowboy's center out of the game. Haynesworth, the gutless pussy, gets tossed and -we hope- fined and suspended. If you missed it, watch SportsCenter tonight... it'll piss you right off.It CERTAINLY pissed off the Cowboys... after the incident, the 'Boys put a major whoop-ass on the Titans. That said, Vince Young WILL be a big time NFL QB eventually, just not today or next week.

Is it just me, or does anyone else miss the dual-use stadiums that used to be so prevalent? I think only Miami and Oakland feature teams traversing across baseball infields. I think childhood memories of old Muni Stadium hold a special place in my heart. God bless the original (and far superior) Dawg Pound.

That mega-lateral play by the Jets...who's that #16 backup QB who had the lateral toward the end of the play....he was actually down before he got rid of the ball, and so if the Jets had scored, the play would have been reviewed and the Colts would have won anyways.

Here's my real question....the Colt that grabbed the last lateral, and stumbled....if he had run that all the way back for a touchdown, then Indy woulda been up 9 with a chance to kick a spread-beating extra point. Would anyone upstairs have thought to review the play for that Jets lateral guy being down, since it wouldn't help the Jets win anyway? Would they have the spread in mind?

can someone tell me how a kid from my high school who wasn't good enough to play d1 college ball (walked onto OSU and then left for N.Iowa when told he wouldn't get any PT) is tearing up the NFL and out dueling Roy Williams for Kitna's love?

would they (indy) have been allowed to kick the PAT? I know that a few years ago Vinateri ran that one in for 2 with 0:00 on the clock when the other team didn't bother to have players on the field, and I thought the NFL changed the rules after that?

The first Saints TD never should've happened. 4th down, pass incomplete, defender called for pass interference even though he didn't touch the receiver until after the receiver had touched the ball. The crowd let the refs have it for several plays after that.

Someone mentioned DeShaun Foster should've gone down. Earlier that drive, one of the RBs--don't remember if it was Foster or Maroney--fell down rather than go out of bounds (and gain a few more yards that weren't necessary since they already had a first down). Very nice move. As for TD, you always take the points if it's going to get you two scores up on an opponent. At some point you have to expect your defense to do some crunch-time work.

The John Fox replay challenge was high-larious. Ran out on the field, almost brained a ref with the flag.

One more thing(tm): Sean Payton was almost Herm Edwards-esque with his timeouts at the end of the game. Wasted one on a challenge that was pretty meaningless (if the challenge had gone through, Carolina would've had 3rd and 2 rather than 1st and 10 -- not really worth risking a Timeout for a couple yards). Also, they called a timeout at 2:01, which I thought was insane. You're basically telling Carolina: go ahead and throw the ball and gain big yardage on us while we're defending the run. Fortunately for the Saints, the Panthers were so perplexed by the timeout that they stuck with a run.

DAMN! I knew the Chicago D was pretty good but they are flat out blowing up Seattle's game plan. This is my first real look at them and while I knew that they were good I had no idea they were THIS dominant.Props to Grossman as well. He's exactly what needs to be done to make the Bears' offense click. If I were a Bears fan I'd have visions of SB XLI dancing in my head.

Brian in Oxford, They wouldn't have kicked the extra point, because it wouldn't have mattered to the outcome of the game. Kinda like how they don't kick the extra point in OT if a team scores a touchdown. The clock is at zero, the game is over. no reason to kick the point.

Definitely hate the doubleheader rule. I don't know what games were shown in your area, but we had the colts-Jets game, which was pretty good, and Dallas-Tenn which wasn't, then at 4 we only had the Pats game obviously. Once that one became a laugher, it would have been nice to turn onto a more competitive game. You shouldn't have to subscribe to directv to be able to watch 2 different games.

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