I think Scientology was started because L. Ron Hubbard was an untalented hack with no imagination who couldn't write a sci-fi novel to save his life so he adapted his bad sci-fi novel into a religion to make millions that way (he made no secret of his motives being $$$), and for some reason some idiots took it seriously.

I think the hierarchy is aimed at bilking people out of their money, the same as televangelists, 700 Club, Pat Robertson, etc. It's purely about $$$ to them, IMO, and IMO they're an organized con ring the same as Robertson's 700 Club and televangelism in general.

Why people like Tom Cruise devote themselves to it, I have no idea.

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I think Scientology was started because L. Ron Hubbard was an untalented hack with no imagination who couldn't write a sci-fi novel to save his life so he adapted his bad sci-fi novel into a religion to make millions that way (he made no secret of his motives being $$$), and for some reason some idiots took it seriously.

I think the hierarchy is aimed at bilking people out of their money, the same as televangelists, 700 Club, Pat Robertson, etc. It's purely about $$$ to them, IMO, and IMO they're an organized con ring the same as Robertson's 700 Club and televangelism in general.

Why people like Tom Cruise devote themselves to it, I have no idea.

Well there's a lot of rumors about L. Ron Hubbard being a sex trafficker

See Kinsey's research wasn't, um, scientifically sound. He was gay, or polyamory himself and was in corespondent with a pedophile violently molesting his daughter. Some claim he partook although its hard to find real evidence of that. What he did do was write him back very cooly, as you do to a dangerous pedophile, and not notify the police. Kind of Joey-Pa-ish. Also he interviews a lot of prostitutes and sexual offenders so he hardly chose "average Americans".

He really pushed his legislation and caused a rolling back of many good sex laws. Reducing rape sentences, reducing incest laws, reducing age of consent, reduced prison time for pedophiles because he said "they were not likely to repeat".

Shame all that anecdotal research was false.

The CDC tracks human sexual behavior to study STD rates. Secondly it's actually revealed (a mathematical certainty) that men and women engage in heterosexual sex at a fairy conservative rate, which far less sex partners than reported. Most people lie to sound interesting.

So as a result its much harder to prosecute pedophiles now.

Moreover most victims just never come forward because of the laws lax treatment.

It would explain a lot too...

Bohemian Grove being "faggy".

Large scale Catholic Church pedophile scandal.

Proven Nazi pedophile scandal.

Large scale sex trafficking in Thailand.

All the allegations in Hollywood, and arrests.

The fact that most civilations in history that were Imperial in nature fell prey to pedophilia, usually prompted there decline.

The film that was removed from air that linked HW Bush to a pedophilia ring.

I mean don't get me wrong. I think some of it goes too far with mind control, Illumantis. But could power be co-opted by pederasti. Well it has happened before. Like a lot.

I think any of those factors was more significant than who they were having sex with.

I'd agree with that actually. I think cultural decadence is a byproduct of economics in fact.

Although I take things with a grain of salt.

It's ironic Paul Bonacci's testimony described the Grove before it was widely known. However I don't think it's sufficient to draw some of the conclusions, no doubt there is something fishy in the Franklin Cover Up.

Alex Jones' infiltration is pretty laughable though. It's supposedly a Satanic society where they kill but Jones sneaks right in. No snipers? No security system? Heck, you can't get anywhere near Area 51, but you sure as heck can walk right in there. Great security.

The thing I don't like is the story tends to be self-linking. Only the people trying to expose the cover up have the evidence, unless they don't, in which case it's conveniently destroyed.

The witnesses do seem upset by the ordeal, then again, people honestly believe Aliens abducted them, so imagining being part of a sex trade might not be that unbelieveable as the ravings of a schizophrenic.

Looked into it further. The Franklin Cover Up, The 911, the Washington Pedophile Ring Scandal, Satanic Ritual Abuse and UFOs are all COINTELPRO operations.COINTELPRO is a counterintelligence program designed to disrupt grass roots political organizations or those seen as subversive by printing false information, leaking false documents, creating dead leads, providing false witnesses for testimony, pitting groups against each other, spreading disinformation campaigns, spying, and illegal seizure of evidence.

They basically seek to keep emerging political parties small as well. Glenn Beck is actually rumored to be focused on delegitimization of Liberatarians and Tea Partiers. One tactic outlined by COINTELPRO is attempting to drive a group to extremes thereby keeping them in the fringe of politics.

Looked into it further. The Franklin Cover Up, The 911, the Washington Pedophile Ring Scandal, Satanic Ritual Abuse and UFOs are all COINTELPRO operations.COINTELPRO is a counterintelligence program designed to disrupt grass roots political organizations or those seen as subversive by printing false information, leaking false documents, creating dead leads, providing false witnesses for testimony, pitting groups against each other, spreading disinformation campaigns, spying, and illegal seizure of evidence.

They basically seek to keep emerging political parties small as well. Glenn Beck is actually rumored to be focused on delegitimization of Liberatarians and Tea Partiers. One tactic outlined by COINTELPRO is attempting to drive a group to extremes thereby keeping them in the fringe of politics.

Mind blown.

I knew Mark Dice wasn't in any list of being a fake. ho yeah boo yeah.

I knew Mark Dice wasn't in any list of being a fake. ho yeah boo yeah.

And **** people that want to destroy the LP.

It's compelling, coupled with videos of Alex Jones being asked if he's cointelpro on his own show, and then promptly hanging up the phone in response. I know for a fact now Ted Gunderson is FBI and COINTELPRO, and he's responsible for a lot of the "evidence" he produces are the same documents and evidence Gunderson mysteriously produces. Yup, all COINTELPRO forgeries. Even the Bohemian Grove is a COINTELPRO invention. Basically the Grove is just a music/arts festival with 2700 members, not a secret society although many wealthy people attend. It's a rich man's burning man. But the men in cloaks in fact are not the Bush family or any member of the 'Elite' as best anyone can tell.

I also wondered why all conspiracy evidence linked back to a small pool of private investigators and FBI agents.

Turns out it's all faked on behalf of COINTELPRO.

That's funny.

I laughed so hard when I found Gunderson's cover had been blown.

Also, the Birther movement was issued a faked Kenyan BC along with other "evidence" all faked by COINTELPRO programs. Lol.

It's compelling, coupled with videos of Alex Jones being asked if he's cointelpro on his own show, and then promptly hanging up the phone in response. I know for a fact now Ted Gunderson is FBI and COINTELPRO, and he's responsible for a lot of the "evidence" he produces are the same documents and evidence Gunderson mysteriously produces. Yup, all COINTELPRO forgeries. Even the Bohemian Grove is a COINTELPRO invention. Basically the Grove is just a music/arts festival with 2700 members, not a secret society although many wealthy people attend. It's a rich man's burning man. But the men in cloaks in fact are not the Bush family or any member of the 'Elite' as best anyone can tell.

I also wondered why all conspiracy evidence linked back to a small pool of private investigators and FBI agents.

Turns out it's all faked on behalf of COINTELPRO.

That's funny.

I laughed so hard when I found Gunderson's cover had been blown.

Also, the Birther movement was issued a faked Kenyan BC along with other "evidence" all faked by COINTELPRO programs. Lol.

Most Bohemian Grove information I can find is speculative at best. It's a fairly large festival and from all accounts all of those ceremonies are plays by actors and they change it every year. Makes sense considering it was started as an "arts appreciation" type event. And people stand around naked making things awkward for Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton.

What proof do you have that Bohemian is tax payer funded?

It really does seem like most of the "proof" for this stuff links back to all the Counter Intelligence Operatives. People are just messin' with ya.

Most Bohemian Grove information I can find is speculative at best. It's a fairly large festival and from all accounts all of those ceremonies are plays by actors and they change it every year. Makes sense considering it was started as an "arts appreciation" type event. And people stand around naked making things awkward for Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton.

What proof do you have that Bohemian is tax payer funded?

It really does seem like most of the "proof" for this stuff links back to all the Counter Intelligence Operatives. People are just messin' with ya.

I'm gonna answer outta order...

What proof do I have? None. Just assuming that it's tax payer funded since mostly Republicans are there.

Never heard of CIO's until recently in this thread.

I thought Bill....liked naked people. I was gonna make a joke, then I was like naaaaaaah.

And where do they post this info at? Do these people pretend to be posters in deep cover on certain forums on the web? Must be exciting...

On the Grove. The Grove information can be found anywhere. What because someone took a photo once with Ronald Reagan and Nixon you suddenly believe every rumor about that place?

No. I found Ted Gunderson's resume:http://www.newsmakingnews.com/tgresume.htm, and few people complaining about living with him (odd that a man who had 700 employees beneath him with a 22 Million dollar budget would acting like some broke dude sleeping on people's couches) until I pieced together he was COINTELPRO. Simply working on our FBI's behalf to spread disinformative. Larry, an ex-CIA guy did the same thing. Started the birther hoax.

My poli-sci professor was COINTELPRO and inflitrated the KKK, but they do it to lots of groups domestically like PETA, the Tea Party, and the Black Panthers most famously.

So yeah, believe what you wish. But you're being taken for a ride.

They do it to keep politicians honest, lol. Or try to use phony blackmail as leverage to get information for cases. The FBI and CIA don't have a lot of friends really.