*** Out of curiosity, when you design a chip to be fabricated by the Caltech foundry, do they retain your design? Do they share it with other users? My question is really to what extent do users of the resource contribute to the resource in this example.~ [[User:Cconboy|cmc]] 12:33, 10 Nov 2005 (EST).

*** Out of curiosity, when you design a chip to be fabricated by the Caltech foundry, do they retain your design? Do they share it with other users? My question is really to what extent do users of the resource contribute to the resource in this example.~ [[User:Cconboy|cmc]] 12:33, 10 Nov 2005 (EST).

*Materials collections --> Materials registries

*Materials collections --> Materials registries

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This page will be a discussion on applying the principles of Web 2.0 to scientific communication. I wrote up this page just to get the conversation going, please add categories (or rename it :). Kathleen's open science comments from her soapbox are a good starting place as well. Also, our previous discussion on future approaches to publishing.

Science 1.0->2.0

Some new text -
The internet is undergoing a major change - from an original environment where individuals posted static information that was hard to navigate to a new environment where people are dynamically posting information and collaborating. New search and aggregation tools are making it easier to find and contribute to the information that an individual is interested in. This shift has been described as the switch from Web 1.0 to Web 2.0. Some examples of old and new web technologies taken from an O'Reilly Web 2.0 articleare listed below.

Web1.0-->Web2.0

Britannica Online-->Wikipedia

directories (taxonomy)-->tagging ("folksonomy")

mp3.com-->Napster

Akamai-->BitTorrent

old text -
The idea here is to identify scientific structures that resemble the conventional web (Web1.0), and imagine suggestions – however, wild -- for how Web 2.0-type concepts could be used to come up with new structures in science that provide that service better, faster, or cheaper
As an example of this here are the analogies from the O'Reilly Web 2.0 article:

Web1.0-->Web2.0

Britannica Online-->Wikipedia

directories (taxonomy)-->tagging ("folksonomy")

mp3.com-->Napster

Akamai-->BitTorrent

Examples in science

Science can both use these new tools directly and also apply similar concepts by analogy. The expectation is that these new concepts will make the biology community more open and will increase the speed that new information is accumulated and disseminated. Listed below are some of the ways Science is already moving from Science 1.0 to 2.0.

Out of curiosity, when you design a chip to be fabricated by the Caltech foundry, do they retain your design? Do they share it with other users? My question is really to what extent do users of the resource contribute to the resource in this example.~ cmc 12:33, 10 Nov 2005 (EST).

Materials collections --> Materials registries

Example: Strain collections --> MIT Registry of Standard Biological Parts The Registry permits users to design, obtain, test, and annotate parts. The users who design parts do not necessarily have to be the ones who synthesize the parts. It enables anyone to post comments about any part. Eventually the Registry would like to move to a web of registries based in multiple locations to further decentralize and make the engineering of new and existing parts easier.

Problems with current situation

Thought this might help point out areas where improved sharing might benefit science the most.

Current publishing approach is very slow: results in yesterday's journal are 0.5-2 years old.

There is only one main level of information dissemination (peer reviewed, highly polished, tight summary)

There doesn’t seem to be a good reason to have only one form information distribution in science. While it is important to have tight, very trustworthy summaries of research it could also be useful to have “streaming results” from a lab updated weekly or monthly. Understandably, readers would need to take these results with more skepticism than those published that month in Nature, however it doesn’t mean they would have no value.

In the past, conferences were ways to get around to quicker interaction between groups. However, the current atmosphere makes it such that people often only talk about published results. Much of this, in our opinion, has to do with the structures around competition for funding sources.

Current publishing approaches do not encourage open feedback and reviews of work.

Ideas for future Science2.0 projects

Slashdot for scientific articles, ideas

Online lab notebooks

Accessible from everywhere

Searchable

Referencable

Equipment-friendly: as data comes off a machine, it goes directly into notebook.

Network- or internet-friendly lab equipment

All lab equipment actually becomes operable over the web and therefore does not require a dedicated computer to run. (Note that Randy is actually considering buying a robot that is programmed on a computer and transferred to it via a memory card.)

Permits sharing of equipment across the world opening up science to a wider rangle of people.

Requires standardization of communication protocols.

Conference posters being used as an overview and an advertisement for a fuller description/discussion of a project on OWW rather than an end in themselves. Most people have web-access at conferences, read a poster you like, check the OWW page, go back for a fuller discussion with the author in person or online.

Lab "feed"

An equivalent of an RSS feed of what is coming out of a lab updated daily/weekly. Results would be less finalized but might help people coordinate on projects accross labs rather than just repeating each other's work in secret.

Immediate Data Sharing - Currently authors must keep data private until a paper is published. Regardless of whether the publishing process can be accelerated, it would be desirable if the raw data could be shared earlier while protecting the authors rights to publish papers based on the data. This idea is related to some of the suggestion/problems above.

Scientific "currency" outside of authorship on paper

I think this might enable better data sharing among other things. I.e. if you use my data you need to give me X credits (where the value of X credits to my career is less than authorship on paper but greater than nothing.) I have no idea what such a system would look like.

OWW as an ongoing 'Science 2.0' experiment

OpenWetWare is good example of Web2.0 meets science. Even though it hasn't been around long it already has provided some "in the trenches"-type information about where Web2.0 will mesh with traditional scientific research approaches and where it will raise concerns.

Content generation

Lowering the barriers to content generation and dissemination leads to more informal discussion and more up to date results. Most of the information on OpenWetWare are things that would have been archived anyways, just not in a centralized stored format which is both open access and open editable.

Meshing

Makes information more accessible. Not only is my information (i.e. lab notebook) accessible to others but it is accessible to me from anywhere. See online lab notebook above.

Common concerns

Trustability

People often are worried about how trustable the people on OpenWetWare are. We often sidestep this by saying everyone has a login, and we can track any change anybody makes. When the first 'vandalism' occurs, we can rethink what our policies of once you are logged in, you can edit everything. However, at some point, vandalism will occur. What do we do then? How do we convince people there is way more good, than the occasional bad.

Getting 'scooped'

When we try and promote OpenWetWare to people one of the most common responses is “if I post my project details there I will be scooped.” We usually ask that they consider a few scenarios:

The project is shared online and someone steals the idea and publishes before you without ever mentioning they are working on the project. Publications (science currency) = 0.

The project is shared online, several people email you saying it looks cool, you push those connections and establish 4 new research directions. One of which is even more productive than the original direction. Also, a competitor steals one of the ideas and beats you to the punch. Science currency = 4-1 = 3.

What this example illustrates is that the question is whether you think the probability of scenario P(2)/P(1) > 1. This also approximates one of the Web 2.0 principles “the service gets better the more people use it,” since the more people that buy into this model the higher P(2)/P(1) gets. We think P(2)/P(1) is already > 1, however we’re naïve graduate students. However, if we're right than ‘natural selection’ will lead those adopting an open approach to science to generate more science currency and thereby outcompete those taking approach (3).

Looking unprofessional

There is a concern that "posting non-polished, uncompleted research/documents online will make the lab appear unprofessional." The counter argument is that having a rapidly updated space will make the lab appear alive and dynamic. Anyone have experiences one way or the other on this? I've been approached twice now at conferences by people who had seen my stuff on the wiki and their response was pretty positive. Also, I think we've had more post-doc applications to the lab since the wiki has gone up as well...