Do UFOs / Extraterrestrials exist?

You know what? I hacked into the NWO's secret black ops network last night.
I found some interesting information. Apparently aliens have come to earth.
They're living here right now.
They live in the internet.
Can't prove me wrong can you? And if you try, you're probably working for the NWO anyway.
Sheep.

The difference is you're full of s---.

This guy actually did hack into one of the most secure computer networks in the world. Who knows what he came across.

You know what? I hacked into the NWO's secret black ops network last night.
I found some interesting information. Apparently aliens have come to earth.
They're living here right now.
They live in the internet.
Can't prove me wrong can you? And if you try, you're probably working for the NWO anyway.
Sheep.

The difference is you're full of s**t.

This guy actually did hack into one of the most secure computer networks in the world. Who knows what he came across.

I think LHK's point was just because you hack into something, it doesn't mean that:
1. Anything you found is credible and
2. You are mentally competent.

Who knows, he may be full of s**t as well. Maybe they busted him before he could, maybe he was unable to? How many Government sites have you hacked into lately?

The article claims it was the "biggest hack of military computers ever, at least ever detected."
I think any hacker worth his salt would capture some of the data being hacked, instead of just viewing it.

Who knows, he may be full of s**t as well. Maybe they busted him before he could, maybe he was unable to? How many Government sites have you hacked into lately?

The article claims it was the "biggest hack of military computers ever, at least ever detected."
I think any hacker worth his salt would capture some of the data being hacked, instead of just viewing it.

Who knows, he may be full of s**t as well. Maybe they busted him before he could, maybe he was unable to? How many Government sites have you hacked into lately?

The article claims it was the "biggest hack of military computers ever, at least ever detected."
I think any hacker worth his salt would capture some of the data being hacked, instead of just viewing it.

Write a book.

I sense sarcasm (again). See, I'll fully open to the possibility of life outside Earth. But any new claim should always be met with skepticism.

What if someone has a very open mind, but chooses for palpable evidence to present itself, instead of anecdotes and conjecture?
Trust me, I would love for Bigfoot, the Yeti and Ebu Gogo to exist today. But it's not looking likely.

I agree. If you find evidence of aliens....download and distribute it. At what point will these people stop expecting us to take their word for it and offer up something definitive. Loch Ness, Bigfoot, aliens....whatever it is...don't bother telling us your stories unless you have, at least, a nice sharp HD photo or a clear steady video. Better yet....get some DNA or even a whole body. Otherwise...I don't want to hear about it.

What if someone has a very open mind, but chooses for palpable evidence to present itself, instead of anecdotes and conjecture?
Trust me, I would love for Bigfoot, the Yeti and Ebu Gogo to exist today. But it's not looking likely.

Then I'd say, to each his own, that's not what got us to this point. If everyone's a sheep who chooses to be a little more open minded on this subject then he can go f--- himself, stick to the lame, name that dumb bird thread. (See how that position can work both ways)

I could offer you eye witness accounts, my own, yet I can't provide any evidence, so to each his own, don't believe people who can't produce evidence. I'm more open minded than that because of them, I don't need hard evidence to make me CURIOUS to the potential, and yes of coarse it'd be nice. That also doesn't mean every claim out there must be legit, and I do back flips over them, but I don't write em all off, because of lack of hard evidence.

Sitting on the fence gives you a unique view point; in that, it's higher up than sitting with your *** on the ground. :mrgreen:

My question to you would be, do you dismiss things because you haven't experienced them first hand, or have evidence to the contrary? Life would be kinda boring if you did.

As far as BigFeet since you brought it up. I don't think any open minded person can watch the Patterson Footage evidence, and definitively go "yep that's a man in the late 60s(?) wearing a gorilla suit". Is it a Sasquatch, f---ed if I know, but when I look at the footage I can't say it isn't. Really when I look at it I see a Female animal sauntering through a cut block with boobs swinging and hair blowing and muscles flexing.

What if someone has a very open mind, but chooses for palpable evidence to present itself, instead of anecdotes and conjecture?
Trust me, I would love for Bigfoot, the Yeti and Ebu Gogo to exist today. But it's not looking likely.

Then I'd say, to each his own, that's not what got us to this point. If everyone's a sheep who chooses to be a little more open minded on this subject then he can go f**k himself, stick to the lame, name that dumb bird thread. (See how that position can work both ways)

I could offer you eye witness accounts, my own, yet I can't provide any evidence, so to each his own, don't believe people who can't produce evidence. I'm more open minded than that because of them, I don't need hard evidence to make me CURIOUS to the potential, and yes of coarse it'd be nice. That also doesn't mean every claim out there must be legit, and I do back flips over them, but I don't write em all off, because of lack of hard evidence.

Sitting on the fence gives you a unique view point; in that, it's higher up than sitting with your *** on the ground. :mrgreen:

My question to you would be, do you dismiss things because you haven't experienced them first hand, or have evidence to the contrary? Life would be kinda boring if you did.

As far as BigFeet since you brought it up. I don't think any open minded person can watch the Patterson Footage evidence, and definitively go "yep that's a man in the late 60s(?) wearing a gorilla suit". Is it a Sasquatch, f**ked if I know, but when I look at the footage I can't say it isn't. Really when I look at it I see a Female animal sauntering through a cut block with boobs swinging and hair blowing and muscles flexing.

What if someone has a very open mind, but chooses for palpable evidence to present itself, instead of anecdotes and conjecture?
Trust me, I would love for Bigfoot, the Yeti and Ebu Gogo to exist today. But it's not looking likely.

Then I'd say, to each his own, that's not what got us to this point. If everyone's a sheep who chooses to be a little more open minded on this subject then he can go f**k himself, stick to the lame, name that dumb bird thread. (See how that position can work both ways)

I could offer you eye witness accounts, my own, yet I can't provide any evidence, so to each his own, don't believe people who can't produce evidence. I'm more open minded than that because of them, I don't need hard evidence to make me CURIOUS to the potential, and yes of coarse it'd be nice. That also doesn't mean every claim out there must be legit, and I do back flips over them, but I don't write em all off, because of lack of hard evidence.

Sitting on the fence gives you a unique view point; in that, it's higher up than sitting with your *** on the ground. :mrgreen:

My question to you would be, do you dismiss things because you haven't experienced them first hand, or have evidence to the contrary? Life would be kinda boring if you did.

As far as BigFeet since you brought it up. I don't think any open minded person can watch the Patterson Footage evidence, and definitively go "yep that's a man in the late 60s(?) wearing a gorilla suit". Is it a Sasquatch, f**ked if I know, but when I look at the footage I can't say it isn't. Really when I look at it I see a Female animal sauntering through a cut block with boobs swinging and hair blowing and muscles flexing.

NASA's Curiosity rover is really digging in at Rocknest, a patch of Martian sand the robot has been exploring for more than a week.

The photo above, from one of Curiosity's navigation cameras, shows an area of Rocknest sand "with what looks like three bite marks," as project scientist John Grotzinger put it in an October 18 teleconference with reporters. Each mark is a trench left by the scoop on Curiosity's robotic arm, which collects samples for analysis with the rover's onboard instruments.

But before Curiosity fired up its CheMin (Chemistry and Mineralogy) instrument to analyze the soil, it first had to purify its sample-collection instruments using Martian sand as a cleansing abrasive. And having already encountered man-made debris, which may have been strewn about during the rover's landing, mission scientists took caution not to stick any artificial objects into CheMin. The rover's second scoop at Rocknest contained a bright object that became cause for concern. Most of the science team, Grotzinger said, ultimately concluded that the bright fleck was probably indigenous to Mars, but nonetheless that sample was dumped in favor of a third scoop of sand (center).

Grotzinger said that the sample had been delivered to the onboard CheMin, which uses x-ray diffraction to assess mineralogical composition, and that data from the instrument would be transmitted to Earth soon.

I posted this in NTO, officially hijacking that thread so I figured it probably belongs here.

I have no doubt there is life out there, but logic tells me that aliens have probably never visited earth (im hoping and wishing this logic is wrong ). We are one small planet thats part of a one small solar system in the far reaches of one small galaxy called the Milky Way. In 1999 the Hubble Space Telescope estimated that there were 125 billion galaxies in the universe, and in May 2009 hubble was fitted wia a new camera and has now observed 3,000 visible galaxies, which is twice as much as they observed before with the old camera. We're emphasizing "visible" because observations with radio telescopes, infrared cameras, x-ray cameras, etc. would detect other galaxies that are not detected by Hubble. As observations keep on going and astronomers explore more of our universe, the number of galaxies detected will increase.

That makes us a needle in the proverbial haystack! But I hope im wrong and all this static we spew from our planet has garnered someones "oops" somethings attention.

I posted this in NTO, officially hijacking that thread so I figured it probably belongs here.

I have no doubt there is life out there, but logic tells me that aliens have probably never visited earth (im hoping and wishing this logic is wrong ). We are one small planet thats part of a one small solar system in the far reaches of one small galaxy called the Milky Way. In 1999 the Hubble Space Telescope estimated that there were 125 billion galaxies in the universe, and in May 2009 hubble was fitted wia a new camera and has now observed 3,000 visible galaxies, which is twice as much as they observed before with the old camera. We're emphasizing "visible" because observations with radio telescopes, infrared cameras, x-ray cameras, etc. would detect other galaxies that are not detected by Hubble. As observations keep on going and astronomers explore more of our universe, the number of galaxies detected will increase.

That makes us a needle in the proverbial haystack! But I hope im wrong and all this static we spew from our planet has garnered someones "oops" somethings attention.

well there is a theory that all the water ( or the majority ) on our planet came from an ice comet. Along with it came Microorganisms that eventually evolved to become us. That would mean that, all of us, including all the plants and animals are alien to our planet.