(Original post by harmonize)
So the value of human life is determined by how much one can take away from somebody else for taking it?

Human life is as valued and preserved higher than it has been anywhere in the world for the last 1000 years. Billions of pounds are spent on healthcare and crime prevention, in this country I am less likely to be killed than most places on earth, I won't starve to death and I have free healthcare.

It appears to be far more valued in modern Britain.

Slightly off the way this topic seems to be going, but if you want to know how much a British life is worth, a good start is the government's (via NICE) view of up to approximately £30000 per Quality Adjusted Life Year (BMJ 2009; 338:b181). So if you live a healthy 80 years, the value of your life is about £2.4 million. This is the (very rough) basis on which it is decided whether on it is worth funding a person's treatment on the NHS.

I just have to laugh at the idea that the answer to the 'life is too cheap in Britain' question is to bring back the death penalty. The worrying this is, most of you barbaric death-penalty-advocates probably don't see the contradiction.

(Original post by Teveth)
I just have to laugh at the idea that the answer to the 'life is too cheap in Britain' question is to bring back the death penalty. The worrying this is, most of you barbaric death-penalty-advocates probably don't see the contradiction.

Rubbish. There is no contradiction in executing murderers, provided that we come under no pretences that killing itself is the problem. I don't see it as "killing is wrong, it should be punished with death". I see it as "wrongful, immoral killing (murder) should be punished with execution".

(Original post by Noodlepants)
All Rapsits/Paedophiles/Murderers (perhaps only people who've killed more than once) should be sentenced to death. Use Lie detectors/numerous trials/whatever makes it "fair".
Save us some cash too...

Simples

So rapists hang, murders are just locked up unless they make a habit of it?

(Original post by humanrights)
compassion for murderers is no different from compassion for the act of murder itself........

That's simply insane.

(Original post by Liquidus Zeromus)
Rubbish. There is no contradiction in killing murderers, provided that we come under no pretences that killing itself is the problem. I don't see it as "killing is wrong, it should be punished with death". I see it as "wrongful, immoral killing (murder) should be punished with execution".

Reading these death penalty advocates posts is like listning to the chavs down the pub talk about "dose ****in pedos m8 need to be executioned!!!" it's shows up utter ignorance about the real causes of and issues surrounding crime and an emotionally thinking, myopic world view filled with hatred.

(Original post by Noodlepants)
All Rapsits/Paedophiles/Murderers (perhaps only people who've killed more than once) should be sentenced to death. Use Lie detectors/numerous trials/whatever makes it "fair".
Save us some cash too...

The development of a foetus is not black and white. It is a gradual process. To be either for or against abortion in the absolute sense is entirely irrational. I have no problem with a woman choosing to 'abort' a pregnancy in the early stages, as the foetus is just a bunch of cells for the first weeks of its development. The question is, at what stage of the pregnancy do I become uncomfortable with abortion taking place. Well, I'm not a medical expert, but from the little knowledge I do have, I think somewhere between 15-22 weeks is where the line should be drawn. From the evidence I've seen, I am slightly uncomfortable with the current line which sits at 24 weeks.