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Why the male side of Couples are here...? - I will admit I am hoping to spark some heated debate on this.... - [quote=EVILDOERS]Shit I had to read thru that whole thing like almost twice. Okay fine, I skimmed it almost twice. Why am I (or we) still in swinging (it will be thirty years in the not too distant future!)? For us it's about the great friendships. Sex is great. It's fun to explore that not only with each other but with other people occasionally. But it's totally secondary for us. With swingers, more than any other group of people we've found, we can be ourselves, say pretty much what we want, and not have to filter anything. With most vanillas, especially here in Utah, we really have to tread lightly and watch what we say and do. With swingers we can laugh our asses off, totally make fun of the world and even flirt without anyone getting too bent out of shape. I'm sure I don't have to tell you what would happen if you did that with most of your vanilla friends. So yeah, friendships are why we stay. Any sex that happens is just the frosting on the Pop-Tart for us.
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Wow 30 years, what did your balls drop and you said hay lets go get into and orgy?

New Forum Rules - No Censorship, No Moderation, Just a Few Rules -

Rob,

Very good move. Most popular public forums on the web have moderators that keep it above the belt. I am a "levels of force" kinda person. I usually keep it in the "smack talk" region until someone pulls out the big guns and says something that totally insults me, my service to the country, my way of life etc. Then I think it's fair to defend myself. I was never one to tolerate bullies
Forum moderation is a good think as long as you are not dinged on everything you say. If done in moderation itself, I think it's key in a happy community. After all, not all of us will agree all of the time. Any good community has a police system in place.
Some of us do not hold themselves to a moral believe system (dogma). What it "proper etiquette" to some, may not be to others. We are a culturally & sexually diverse, multi-faceted, large gamut of unique individuals. Each of us even differ from our spouses/significant others (if that applies). Can you you say you never argue with your spouse? Can you say you have never said anything brash to anyone? Were you apologetic to those you did not like? I think most reasonable individuals would say yes to most of those and no to the last one. What is more likely, is that they chose to avoid contact with that person.
Everyone here has a choice to involve themselves in the conversations that happen here. For instance, if you were to post in a "GAY MARRIAGE" thread and post your opinion as to why an adult of clear mind and total consent, should not be allowed to enter into legal marriage with another adult of any sex, they so chose because of your own personal moral system. You are then adamant about holding to you view no matter how many time you are told that there is a seperation of church and state and that the "sanctity of marriage, between a man and a woman" is that of religious code and does not apply to the legal system, as it is unconstitutional. Yet you still wish to force your law on the rest of society because your upbringing told you that homosexuality is wrong and that marriage is not meant for gays. If this applies to you, then you are not reasonable and the only way I wish to deal with unreasonable people is to tell them to fuck off. I am saying you don't have the right to avoid homosexual marriage for youself? NO! I am saying you don't have the right to choose for others.
I guess what I am saying is that many of you don't want to hear anyone say anything that differs from your own little world, yet you are swingers. Many of you think one -way and don't want to hear something that turns your belief system on it's head. If you can not respect or tolerate diversity I have no respect for you. I will not respect your beliefs, rights or opinions if you will not afford everyone else the same. YOU REAP WHAT YOU SEW.
I vow, from hence forth, to do my best to be civil to everyone here. I expect the same from all of you. I can play nice with you, if you play nice with me. Remember, if you disrespect me, I will definetly return the courtesy :-) Thanks Rob. Thank you for proving that forum moderation can be a good thing.

-Don-"Ich habe einen kleinen Vogel in meinem Kopf."

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Swingers who swing..... - Golf! - We both love to golf in fact we have a tournament up in Heber this weekend. So make a tee time on a weekend let us know and we will try to make it. Sunday mornings work best.
Dave and Jackie

Swing Color Bands - Swing Color Bands - Well found a topic that alot is intrested in im wondering if the Administrator's could incorperate the color code into the profile's
the Swingers Play colors deffintions are at 7946437.com or type swingular.com in to your search engin thats whee i came acrosst the color code site and a few other fair sites some for real and alot of fakes and other things like new about swingers.
Playcolors is a very good idea and should be incorperated in to the site
Poet

First time flop rule - it happens - i have thought about this. we are newbies and havent even met up with a couple yet (there arent many swingers in our area apparently) we get the 'what if' thoughts. 'what if we dont click?' or 'what if we do click, everyone gets along great and we chicken out?' i mean were not shy, maybe were just nervous cuz were 'virgins'?

Lifestyle friendly doctors - Lifestyle talk - My guess is non-monogamous sex is something they talk with patients about everyday, literally everyday. The fact your spouse knows about it might be the unusual part.
There really is nothing to fear with any doctor. Swingers are on the mild scale of sexual issues they talk about, at least that's what our doctor told us.

Whats happend to us since.... - - We've met some really kick ass people, to include the author of this post. My wife and I are from Oregon where the scene is a little more mainstream and a little less "Hush Hush". With all of the that "Hippy Love" left over from the 60's, the "On-Premise" clubs and being so full of liberals, Oregon is a swingers paradise. The Ironic thing is, because of the religious backgrounds of a lot of the Native-Born Utahans (being told no and don't from birth), they are some of the most sexually explosive people I have ever encountered. It is, at times, breathtaking! In fact my wife and I went from, soft swap voyeurs to the full swing naughty things, because of the energy here. It is as though we struck gold in the desert.
Don & Tami :D

Wannabes and net fakes - Will the real lifestyle members please stand up - We have learned the best phrase to learn quickly in this lifestlye is "NEXT" lets face it this is nothing but a #'s game you have to contact loy=ts to find the few good ones and once you find those good ones it makes all the weeding out of the fakes and flakes worth it. Like we tell people a social meeting or two is fine but we do not intend to date you a year before you decide if you want to play with us or not . We just wish people would have the balls to say at least "no thanks" or tellthe truth they are "wanna" swingers into only the fantasy of it and never really intend to do it. When we find those we simply say "NEXT!"
Norm&Sharon

find a girl to join us - - [quote=BEARZYKINS]You guys think you're the only ones looking for a single girl? Welcome to the club. You have to aak yourself what you bring to the table, that sets you apart from the literally thousands of couples here looking for the same thing! My advice is to be patient, respectful, social and realize that YES this is a couples site!! Also a more flattering pic of the hubby wouldn't hurt. (Just opinion, no offense intended!!)[/quote]
Oh Oh!!!! guess I better not use this site and tell my friends and swing partners that I can't play here..... Didn't know it was a "Couples Site" ONLY, WTF? This is not a couples site.............. How lame.........
There are pleanty opportunities for real swingers here be it M, F or couples.... I have had plenty of contacts and playing on this site. Yes Unicorns are real and very hard to find, but once you have found one, you will love it. Question: Why are the single women called unicorns, they don't have a big protrusion sticking out like a single guy does, why isn't he a unicorn????
Maybe you aren't finding one cause you are all the way out in Hyrum......... Deet-da-Deet, Deet.....

FACE PICS - Face pics should be in private album - [quote=BMSHELL]Those who say they "need to be private" and that's why they won't post face pictures are missing some important things.
Nobody is going to want to meet you until they see what you look like. So at some point, you're going to have to share what you look like with someone from this site. (Otherwise, what's the point of being here?)
[i]"Yeah, but I don't want to share them with everyone on this site!"
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That's why you put them in your private photos, and not in your public photos. That way, only people you approve can see them.
[i]"But what if I approve someone to see them who shouldn't?"
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If you stick with only approving people as your friend who are paid members, who are Verified In Person, then you're pretty much guaranteed that the only people who will EVER see your face pictures are also swingers. (Basically, the same risk as you showing up to a swinger meet & greet).
[i]"But what if someone in my neighborhood sees them? Or what if my boss sees them?"
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If you followed the rule above, then the person in your neighborhood, and your boss, are also swingers. So.. now you're in on each other's secret.. so what?
[i]"But I don't EVER want nude photos of me to be leaked to the web!!"
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Who says the pictures of your face have to be nude? A tasteful photo of you (like what you would post on Facebook) is perfectly okay. Then if someone you 'approved' to see your photos DOES leak the photo, so what?
[b]Anyone not willing to post a picture of their faces in their private photos is either A) not being very careful about who they approve in their friend requests... or B) hiding something.[/b]. Sorry, but I don't buy the whole "privacy" thing if you incorporate a little common sense.[/quote] sorry we don't agree, trust me we aren't hiding anything from anyone, and those who know us will agree, we don't judge people for not caring who knows about their private life, we however do care about privacy and hope people get to know us before they start judging us, like I said we will share just not here, if that's too much of a hassle for some people than we are obviously not a good match, besides that's why they make chocolate and vanilla :)