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McNabb, Redskins may not be that close to an extension

We told you this morning that Donovan McNabb's camp is ready to hammer out an extension with the Redskins that could keep the veteran quarterback in Washington for a few more years. The question now is: Are the Redskins just as eager?

A pair of reports out of Philadelphia this morning could be interpreted as flashing yellow lights.

First, the Redskins had an opportunity to negotiate an extension before the trade went through Sunday and apparently passed. According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, McNabb's agent was involved in the discussions Friday and each of the final four teams bidding on McNabb opted against offering an extension.

The Philadelphia Daily News, meanwhile, notes that with the collective bargaining agreement after the 2010 season and Peyton Manning expected to set the market with his contract extension, it's difficult to predict McNabb's contract future.

Perhaps one of the biggest obstacles will be the uncertainty of the 2011 season. If a lockout wipes out that year, McNabb's second season of service for the Redskins could be 2012; he'll turn 36 in November of that year.

Here's what McNabb's agent, Fletcher N. Smith, told us: "I don't know if it will happen, but I would say I'm hopeful or optimistic that a deal will get done. Usually when you have a trade of this magnitude, teams want to get an extension done because of the commitment they've made to acquire the player. The trade was just consummated, and my first goal was to make sure the trade happened, so that's where my focus has been. Donovan's desire was to play for the Washington Redskins, that's happened, and he's very happy it happened. The next step would be to see about that [an extension], so we'll see."

At any rate, you can bet Mike Shanahan will be asked today about extending McNabb, and hopefully he can provide a bit more clarity on the matter.

NO, I don't want Levi back -- he blocked like a folding chair with less movement. I could like a Flozell deal, but he gets WAY too many penalties. But, we need the talent on the O-line so I would definitely endorse it.

5 months from now just like every other team. Unfortunately do to the incompetence of the previous regime we already have a roster less desirable than our entire division. The roster is not a finished product so we will still have the rest of the dregs of UFA, currently 4 draft picks, potential cuts, and undrafted free agents to fill our multiple needs. So anything is possible as what was demonstrated by their bold move on Sunday.

So Red…Buy a calendar and try one of these other lame generic statements..

You're not a GM, let them do what they do.
You’re a hater, there are 31 other teams.
I love how bloggers are so busy with their own agenda, they can’t see the logic in others.
Or your standby…if you don’t agree with me...Puck you and your mom.

C’mon Man..You expect everyone to welcome a 33 yr old McNabb (even though he is an upgrade) from the Eagles for 2 picks considering I have rooted against this guy for 11 years with open arms. He’s an Eagle, just like Bruce Smith was Bill, and Jason Taylor was a Dolphin. This is a short-term move when we need to be building a team so that we have a consistent winner. We’ve had the same one player away strategy since Snyder bought the team. This move for McNabb is the exact opposite approach that they have shown since the first day of FA. If they were loading up for bear then they should have been more aggressive and gone after the 5-8 players that were actually decent UFAs (Dansby, Rolle, etc..)

We now have a 3 year window with McNabb at the helm…Let’s wait and see but also win now.

Given the looming uncertainty with the collective bargaining agreement and the very real prospect of a lock out or walk out for the 2011 season, it doesn't make much sense to sign anyone to long term, guaranteed money. I like the approach that the front office has been taking lately in signing players to short-term, incentive laden deals, and hope the team takes a similar approach to dealing with McNabb.

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 6, 2010 11:21 AM
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why is it...when anyone complains about Landry or Haynesworth or ANY other Skins player on the potential trading block...no one screams Hater? But, dis JC and the JC apologists go nuts... Even though the Skins head coach says he isnt his Starter. That Shanny...what a Hater.
Is it because he looks like Lionel Ritchie and these are just really weird man crushes?

Flozell is a penalty per game type of player, but he's also a beast in the running game. I wouldn't mind him for a short-term deal at RT. With him and Mike Williams teamed up on the right side, that would be a hell of a lot of power driving defenders back in the ground game.

"Perhaps one of the biggest obstacles will be the uncertainty of the 2011 season. If a lockout wipes out that year, McNabb's second season of service for the Redskins could be 2012; he'll turn 36 in November of that year."

The odds of this aren't favorable, but it's still a possibility. If So.....

Given the looming uncertainty with the collective bargaining agreement and the very real prospect of a lock out or walk out for the 2011 season, it doesn't make much sense to sign anyone to long term, guaranteed money. I like the approach that the front office has been taking lately in signing players to short-term, incentive laden deals, and hope the team takes a similar approach to dealing with McNabb.

Posted by: Vic1 | April 6, 2010 11:25 AM
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I was thinking about that, too, but if they don't extend McNabb, then they gave up too much to get a QB for just one year. My thinking is they might want to see how he performs in the offense with the players around him before they sign him to an extension. It's like kicking the tires before you guy the car...

Or, maybe the REDSKINS aren't negotiating with him at all ... Maybe the Rams are working out a deal with the Redskins for McNabb's services, now that they've cut Bulger. Then THE RAMS will work on extending McNabb. That's why the Redskins are STALLING. Hey, didn't Shanahan just say something about the possibility of Campbell still being a Redskins in 2010??? Just a thought (Hey, I didn't say it was a GOOD thought)....

A weak LT is a candidate to try at RT, and if that fails, you try them at G. So we might have a shot at a Levi Jones or Jeremy Bridges or Artis Hicks type who might be able to hold down the fort for a while, those guys should be depth, not starters.

Whose behind Levi Jones last season if he got hurt? D'Anthony Batisthatanothersack?

Normal teams draft plenty of depth for their Oline, and then get lucky now and then with a starter. We seem to think that what's left over when everyone else has picked over the talent pool will make us contenders.

moe, amen, my yankee loving brother...if this turns out to be a 1 and done deal, if McNabb leaves after this year, thats just Cerrato all over again....can't even think about that....thats just same old same old....

Posted by: RedSkinHead | April 6, 2010 11:32 AM
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Should be "buy the car" - not sure what "guy the car" means but sounds like street speak for hanging pine tree air fresheners...

Come on Reid! You know Mcnabb will get a contract extension! The Skins would not have giving up so much to rent him & possibly franchise him the following year.

Many analyst including Mel kiper are saying that the Skins will never have a future if they keep giving away draft picks. What nobody seems to realize is that Shanahan builds his teams with late round/undrafted free agents (i.e Terrel Davis & Brandon Marshall 4th round). If Okung is gone,that will leave Suh,Mcoy or Berry. There will be at leat half a dozen teams willing to trade up to get one of those future Pro Bowlers. We will be fine with the offensive line & people need to stop panicking! Shanahan has always had a good offensive line & most of them were journeymen who were late round draft picks or free agents.

I have a feeling that a few Redksins will be dealt on or before draft day. I don't think Big Al is going any where though. The Skins will have to be creative on lining him up on differnet spots on the defensive line. I'm all for trading JC,LL, Los,& RMac,but need to have replacemnts and that is why Darren Sharper would be a good two year stop gap while we groom a new FS & draft the other postions. I still want to see what Kareem Moore can do,even though he was stripped by a WR after the INT in the Saints game. Hail!!!

"This is a short-term move when we need to be building a team so that we have a consistent winner. We’ve had the same one player away strategy since Snyder bought the team. This move for McNabb is the exact opposite approach that they have shown since the first day of FA."

Amen and amen.

But the guy is a redskin, so I'll root for number 5 in burgandy and gold.

Mcnabb....oh how i have hated thee. Mcnabb the real soup representative how i have refused to buy this product that you have been selling.....Mcnabb how i love to watch thee fight on thy sidelines with your players...Mcnabb.

Oh how i have refused to draft you on my FF team, and then watch you destroy me and the Skins at the same time. Mcnabb.

No i don't see me rooting for you, but it will be weird not to root against you. Mcnabb

Mind you, I'm all for letting the free market set the going rates, and expect that coming out of whatever happens with the collective bargaining agreement discussions -- there should be any number of competent players looking for a place to play and win. And that's when you sign them to longer term, incentive laden deals.

But I have also come to see with players such as AH92 and CP26, that the only real guarantee in guaranteed money is the near certainty that they'll start mailing it in, lest they bruise their $100 million butt muscles. And when you're already paying the likes of AH92 upwards of $1.6 million per game -- regardless of how or even whether he plays -- then it's hard to really know or argue how much is too much for a season's worth (or more) of competence at the QB position.

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 6, 2010 11:21 AM
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why is it...when anyone complains about Landry or Haynesworth or ANY other Skins player on the potential trading block...no one screams Hater? But, dis JC and the JC apologists go nuts... Even though the Skins head coach says he isnt his Starter. That Shanny...what a Hater.
Is it because he looks like Lionel Ritchie and these are just really weird man crushes?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 6, 2010 11:29 AM
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I vote that the name for the "JC Apologists" now and forever more be changed to "JC Goodbyeologists". Meanwhile, the name of the "JC Haters" be changed to the "JC Buhbyeologists".

C'mon guys, the debate is over. He's as good as gone. Let's start hating on McNabb...

McNabb's Agent should win the
"Sports Agent of the Year" award.
How much leverage does he and Donovan have now for the Extension?
The Skins are SELLING McNabb jerseys online...
And they have pis-sed off their Starting QB, poor little Jason, so much that he is now working out at Curves of Herndon.

Or, maybe the REDSKINS aren't negotiating with him at all ... Maybe the Rams are working out a deal with the Redskins for McNabb's services, now that they've cut Bulger. Then THE RAMS will work on extending McNabb. That's why the Redskins are STALLING. Hey, didn't Shanahan just say something about the possibility of Campbell still being a Redskins in 2010??? Just a thought (Hey, I didn't say it was a GOOD thought)....

Posted by: C-DubDC | April 6, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

No, another poster actually brought up this same scenario when McNabb had just been traded, and its a very intriguing scenario. I don't think it will happen, but what a master stroke if it did. Either way, I'm happy.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | April 6, 2010 11:32 AM
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Should be "buy the car" - not sure what "guy the car" means but sounds like street speak for hanging pine tree air fresheners...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | April 6, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

well we are leasing this season i guess? Does that make our draft picks the downpayment due at signing?

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 6, 2010 11:21 AM
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why is it...when anyone complains about Landry or Haynesworth or ANY other Skins player on the potential trading block...no one screams Hater? But, dis JC and the JC apologists go nuts... Even though the Skins head coach says he isnt his Starter. That Shanny...what a Hater.
Is it because he looks like Lionel Ritchie and these are just really weird man crushes?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 6, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

You have the processing power of a stegosaurus. When was Big Al or Dirty 30 railroaded by the franchise? If JC was just put on the trading block without having to deal with all the bs, then I wouldn't care. But that isn't what happened. He was never given a real chance to succeed. Should he have stepped up and done better? Yes. But the situation should have been handled better by management. That is why people care. Everybody is on the trading block. Peyton Manning would be traded for the right deal (let's say for Brady and 3 first rounders). I understand the comment about Ramsey slightly more.

So Red…Buy a calendar and try one of these other lame generic statements..

You're not a GM, let them do what they do.
You’re a hater, there are 31 other teams.
I love how bloggers are so busy with their own agenda, they can’t see the logic in others.
Or your standby…if you don’t agree with me...Puck you and your mom.

C’mon Man..You expect everyone to welcome a 33 yr old McNabb (even though he is an upgrade) from the Eagles for 2 picks considering I have rooted against this guy for 11 years with open arms. He’s an Eagle, just like Bruce Smith was Bill, and Jason Taylor was a Dolphin. This is a short-term move when we need to be building a team so that we have a consistent winner. We’ve had the same one player away strategy since Snyder bought the team. This move for McNabb is the exact opposite approach that they have shown since the first day of FA. If they were loading up for bear then they should have been more aggressive and gone after the 5-8 players that were actually decent UFAs (Dansby, Rolle, etc..)

We now have a 3 year window with McNabb at the helm…Let’s wait and see but also win now.

Posted by: Diesel44

When have I ever said any of that?

Look I don't give a sh*t if you do or don't like the trade. As always what you eat don't make me sh*t, ya dig?

So feel how you feel about it. Like it or love it, I don't give a fu_k. But don't suggest and put me in the category as the "trade for McNabb enthusiast".

All I've ever said was lets wait and see. But you're up here expressing your discontent about the trade, and the offensive line like the season were starting tomorrow.

My bad if I'm going to have a little more patience.

Come July and the roster doesn't look differently than it does right now (especially on the offensive line) then I'll get on board with the skepticism/pessimism.

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 6, 2010 11:21 AM
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why is it...when anyone complains about Landry or Haynesworth or ANY other Skins player on the potential trading block...no one screams Hater? But, dis JC and the JC apologists go nuts... Even though the Skins head coach says he isnt his Starter. That Shanny...what a Hater.
Is it because he looks like Lionel Ritchie and these are just really weird man crushes?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 6, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

You have the processing power of a stegosaurus. When was Big Al or Dirty 30 railroaded by the franchise? If JC was just put on the trading block without having to deal with all the bs, then I wouldn't care. But that isn't what happened. He was never given a real chance to succeed. Should he have stepped up and done better? Yes. But the situation should have been handled better by management. That is why people care. Everybody is on the trading block. Peyton Manning would be traded for the right deal (let's say for Brady and 3 first rounders). I understand the comment about Ramsey slightly more.

Or, maybe the REDSKINS aren't negotiating with him at all ... Maybe the Rams are working out a deal with the Redskins for McNabb's services, now that they've cut Bulger. Then THE RAMS will work on extending McNabb. That's why the Redskins are STALLING. Hey, didn't Shanahan just say something about the possibility of Campbell still being a Redskins in 2010??? Just a thought (Hey, I didn't say it was a GOOD thought)....

Posted by: C-DubDC | April 6, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

No, another poster actually brought up this same scenario when McNabb had just been traded, and its a very intriguing scenario. I don't think it will happen, but what a master stroke if it did. Either way, I'm happy.

Or, maybe the REDSKINS aren't negotiating with him at all ... Maybe the Rams are working out a deal with the Redskins for McNabb's services, now that they've cut Bulger. Then THE RAMS will work on extending McNabb. That's why the Redskins are STALLING. Hey, didn't Shanahan just say something about the possibility of Campbell still being a Redskins in 2010??? Just a thought (Hey, I didn't say it was a GOOD thought)....

Posted by: C-DubDC | April 6, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

No, another poster actually brought up this same scenario when McNabb had just been traded, and its a very intriguing scenario. I don't think it will happen, but what a master stroke if it did. Either way, I'm happy.

Or, maybe the REDSKINS aren't negotiating with him at all ... Maybe the Rams are working out a deal with the Redskins for McNabb's services, now that they've cut Bulger. Then THE RAMS will work on extending McNabb. That's why the Redskins are STALLING. Hey, didn't Shanahan just say something about the possibility of Campbell still being a Redskins in 2010??? Just a thought (Hey, I didn't say it was a GOOD thought)....

Posted by: C-DubDC | April 6, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

No, another poster actually brought up this same scenario when McNabb had just been traded, and its a very intriguing scenario. I don't think it will happen, but what a master stroke if it did. Either way, I'm happy.

Or, maybe the REDSKINS aren't negotiating with him at all ... Maybe the Rams are working out a deal with the Redskins for McNabb's services, now that they've cut Bulger. Then THE RAMS will work on extending McNabb. That's why the Redskins are STALLING. Hey, didn't Shanahan just say something about the possibility of Campbell still being a Redskins in 2010??? Just a thought (Hey, I didn't say it was a GOOD thought)....

Posted by: C-DubDC | April 6, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

No, another poster actually brought up this same scenario when McNabb had just been traded, and its a very intriguing scenario. I don't think it will happen, but what a master stroke if it did. Either way, I'm happy.
Posted by: ga8085 | April 6, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

If the Rams wanted McNabb, why didn't they just trade with the Eagles?

Or, maybe the REDSKINS aren't negotiating with him at all ... Maybe the Rams are working out a deal with the Redskins for McNabb's services, now that they've cut Bulger. Then THE RAMS will work on extending McNabb. That's why the Redskins are STALLING. Hey, didn't Shanahan just say something about the possibility of Campbell still being a Redskins in 2010??? Just a thought (Hey, I didn't say it was a GOOD thought)....

Posted by: C-DubDC | April 6, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

No, another poster actually brought up this same scenario when McNabb had just been traded, and its a very intriguing scenario. I don't think it will happen, but what a master stroke if it did. Either way, I'm happy.

Posted by: ga8085 | April 6, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

If the Rams wanted McNabb why didn't they just trade with the Eagles? they have higher picks than us......

Mcnabb....oh how i have hated thee. Mcnabb the real soup representative how i have refused to buy this product that you have been selling.....Mcnabb how i love to watch thee fight on thy sidelines with your players...Mcnabb.

Oh how i have refused to draft you on my FF team, and then watch you destroy me and the Skins at the same time. Mcnabb.

No i don't see me rooting for you, but it will be weird not to root against you. Mcnabb

C’mon Man..You expect everyone to welcome a 33 yr old McNabb (even though he is an upgrade) from the Eagles for 2 picks considering I have rooted against this guy for 11 years with open arms. He’s an Eagle, just like Bruce Smith was Bill, and Jason Taylor was a Dolphin. This is a short-term move when we need to be building a team so that we have a consistent winner. We’ve had the same one player away strategy since Snyder bought the team.

Over the past decade, the Redskins have had 25 picks in the 1st-through-4th rounds. The Eagles have had 47. The Patriots have had 48. Those teams have won a lot more playoff games than the Redskins have.

Now, the Redskins have 4 picks in April. The Eagles have 11, including five in the top 90.

That was from the Bog-chat, as well as Mcnabb not playing more than 11 games the past 5 years....

Or, maybe the REDSKINS aren't negotiating with him at all ... Maybe the Rams are working out a deal with the Redskins for McNabb's services, now that they've cut Bulger. Then THE RAMS will work on extending McNabb. That's why the Redskins are STALLING. Hey, didn't Shanahan just say something about the possibility of Campbell still being a Redskins in 2010??? Just a thought (Hey, I didn't say it was a GOOD thought)....

Posted by: C-DubDC | April 6, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

No, another poster actually brought up this same scenario when McNabb had just been traded, and its a very intriguing scenario. I don't think it will happen, but what a master stroke if it did. Either way, I'm happy.

Or, maybe the REDSKINS aren't negotiating with him at all ... Maybe the Rams are working out a deal with the Redskins for McNabb's services, now that they've cut Bulger. Then THE RAMS will work on extending McNabb. That's why the Redskins are STALLING. Hey, didn't Shanahan just say something about the possibility of Campbell still being a Redskins in 2010??? Just a thought (Hey, I didn't say it was a GOOD thought)....

Posted by: C-DubDC | April 6, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

No, another poster actually brought up this same scenario when McNabb had just been traded, and its a very intriguing scenario. I don't think it will happen, but what a master stroke if it did. Either way, I'm happy.
Posted by: ga8085 | April 6, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

If the Rams wanted McNabb, why didn't they just trade with the Eagles?

Posted by Mike Florio on April 6, 2010 12:08 PM ET
The fact that the Redskins offered defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth to the Eagles as part of the Donovan McNabb package wasn't a one-time thing.

Jason La Canfora of NFL.com recently reported that he expects the Redskins to continue to try to trade the man with the four-year, $48 million contract. John Clayton of ESPN.com believes that Haynesworth could return to the Titans, the team with which he spent his first seven NFL seasons. Clayton also believes that the Redskins could send Haynesworth to the Rams for defensive tackle Adam Carriker.

Before the McNabb trade went down, we heard Haynesworth's name mentioned as one of the possible pieces of the package that could be put together for a run at Sam Bradford.

Bottom line? It's looking like the Redskins are willing to declare defeat regarding the Haynesworth deal, and then move forward.

Posted by Mike Florio on April 6, 2010 12:08 PM ET
The fact that the Redskins offered defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth to the Eagles as part of the Donovan McNabb package wasn't a one-time thing.

Jason La Canfora of NFL.com recently reported that he expects the Redskins to continue to try to trade the man with the four-year, $48 million contract. John Clayton of ESPN.com believes that Haynesworth could return to the Titans, the team with which he spent his first seven NFL seasons. Clayton also believes that the Redskins could send Haynesworth to the Rams for defensive tackle Adam Carriker.

Before the McNabb trade went down, we heard Haynesworth's name mentioned as one of the possible pieces of the package that could be put together for a run at Sam Bradford.

Bottom line? It's looking like the Redskins are willing to declare defeat regarding the Haynesworth deal, and then move forward.

Or, maybe the REDSKINS aren't negotiating with him at all ... Maybe the Rams are working out a deal with the Redskins for McNabb's services, now that they've cut Bulger. Then THE RAMS will work on extending McNabb. That's why the Redskins are STALLING. Hey, didn't Shanahan just say something about the possibility of Campbell still being a Redskins in 2010??? Just a thought (Hey, I didn't say it was a GOOD thought)....

Posted by: C-DubDC | April 6, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

No, another poster actually brought up this same scenario when McNabb had just been traded, and its a very intriguing scenario. I don't think it will happen, but what a master stroke if it did. Either way, I'm happy.

Posted by: ga8085 | April 6, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

If the Rams wanted McNabb why didn't they just trade with the Eagles? they have higher picks than us......

It's also a Cerrato move in that for the 2011 draft, we may lose a 3rd or 4th rounder on top of the 2nd rounder we need this year.

Why burn future picks for an older player?: who does that?

We just did.

geeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzz

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 6, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

You speak the truth, painful though it may be for us to hear it.

McNabb is a one-year rental. No one can prove otherwise. Let's stick to the facts, not wishful thinking. The facts: 2010 HIGH second round pick - gone. 2011 3rd or 4th round pick - gone. McNabb - UFA 2011. Let's stick to the facts.

Now some analysis:

Tragic decision with long-term (5 years) consequences. The Redskins, who desperately need to rebuild and join the ranks of modern NFL teams with actual long-term plans have surrendered multiple draft picks in a one year deal for a 33 year old injury prone quarterback.

The Redskins were simply hustled by the Eagles. The Eagles are shrewdly stockpiling draft picks and thus will likely have superior personnel for years to come as a result. And I loathe the Eagles.

Shanahan must be in over his head. I don't know what to say about Allen though I don't think he's got a final say though. This is just too stupid.

So now it's time to go back to the Wilbon column, written when Shanahan was hired in January. In that article (not the ridiculous McNabb puff piece he wrote this week), the rap was coach Shanahan doesn't know how to pick players.

That sounds right. And here he's got the final say, and sure enough, he's already demonstrated that he doesn't know how to do personnel. There's a lot here that is very strongly reminiscent of Gibbs II.