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So, you don't have any. Got it. You could have said it was a baseless assumption from the beginning and saved yourself some time. Let me know when enough people leave that it actually matters. With 20+ million customers...good luck. Enjoy your HD lite, fewer HD channels, and constant/lengthy retrans disputes. Dish Network has been scrounging for the leftovers for 16 years and that shows no signs of changing. I simply prefer the premier provider over the cheap knock off.

Oh really, somehow you have latched onto that there is no way that even 35 people could have switched to Dish Network because of the Pac 12 Network. Seriously, I personally know nine people besides myself, not to mention all of the folks here, which is far greater than 35.

My installer back in early October said he was working mandatory overtime every day to cover new installs, they had the same staff size for several years and have not added, but the orders keep coming in. Said they were working 6 12 hr days a week. Good money he said, but it was tiring. Most were interested in the Hopper and secondarily Pac 12 Network.

"HD lite?" I've heard both providers offer many channels in a compressed format. I do not know, but frankly I have no observed any difference.

"Constant/Retrans Disputes?" Are there some? Yes, but constant, not at all. Read the news - it's Directv that seems to have having the most trouble right now.

Fewer HD? Maybe, but for what most of us watch it's hardly less. I am not even sure that this is true anyway, but if it is, then so what if I don't watch those channels? Some things matter in life and beyond ESPU I cannot find anything that I watch not in HD.

We can go on and on, but for 98% of folks Dish does just fine...again, have fun paying more for less!

As much as I want the Pac-12 Network, I'm simply unable to give up my NFL ST because one game was exclusive. I'm a Duck fan, but to switch for one game just didn't make any sense for me. Anyway, are there any updates as to why the deal is not done? Other than the official nonsense that Scott and DTV have released. Plus, I just don't see why DTV would even worry about carrying the channel until next season, with the Pac 12 not being a strong basketball conference.

As much as I want the Pac-12 Network, I'm simply unable to give up my NFL ST because one game was exclusive. I'm a Duck fan, but to switch for one game just didn't make any sense for me. Anyway, are there any updates as to why the deal is not done? Other than the official nonsense that Scott and DTV have released. Plus, I just don't see why DTV would even worry about carrying the channel until next season, with the Pac 12 not being a strong basketball conference.

As I wrote Thursday:Dennis Dobbs (National college football writer for CBSSports.com) tweets:"Where do you stand with DIRECTV P12N asked. I'm told DIRECTV wasn't going to do a deal with Dish signage at all the P12 venues." And another tweet by Bryan Fischer (Senior correspondent for Pac-12 Digital):"PAC12 Network deal with DIRECTV could be next week...or a few years away.- (PAC 12 Net GM) Lydia Murphy-Stevens." It appears that D* hasn't been real honest as to their REAL objection to carrying the PAC-12 Net. I wouldn't hold my breath that there will ever be a deal. And the sad thing is that it could have been D* signage at all the venues.

I will probably vote partly with my wallet this spring and cancel MLB EI for mlb.tv and when they ask why say, "You don't carry the Pac-12 Network, so I'm cutting back on spending with you until such time as I cut back all my spending with you." The latter half is in the TBD category, but in the meantime, I can trim programming a few times to make the point as we take services above and beyond the basic package and I can deliver that message several times.

Well Pac12 bball starts today and nothing from DirecTV. Just waiting for my contract to expire so I can jump. CSR says they are closer than they have been but I doubt that. #nottheleaderinsports

So them not having one sports channel makes them not the leader in sports? If that's the case then no MSO is the sports leader. But you know deep down you don't believe that and we all know DirecTV is the leader in sports hands down.

I used the hash tag just to stir up the coals on this dead thread. However, other providers have all the sports channels I want and DirecTV doesn't so they are not leading me anywhere but away. DirecTV clearly has more but I am a college sports guy that would watch Pac12 more than any other channel most days. Many friends I brought to DirecTV have moved on and it looks like I won't get what I want unless I leave after 13 years. Angry at Pac12 as well as I know it takes two.

I used the hash tag just to stir up the coals on this dead thread. However, other providers have all the sports channels I want and DirecTV doesn't so they are not leading me anywhere but away. DirecTV clearly has more but I am a college sports guy that would watch Pac12 more than any other channel most days. Many friends I brought to DirecTV have moved on and it looks like I won't get what I want unless I leave after 13 years. Angry at Pac12 as well as I know it takes two.

Well, hopefully PAC-12 Network improves their product to meet their rate or they reduce their rate to match a product that has its prime events diverted to other networks.

Nothing new here. Scott says the DirecTV offer is virtually the same as the other carriers; he claims that D* wants a different arrangement than what they have with the Big 10 & other RSNs; D* says they don't feel the pressure and haven't lost many subs; Face it D* has no desire to give PAC 12 fans what they want and nothing is going to happen until late summer when football season rolls around and the complaints pick-up. Thanks to D*, only one semifinal and the Men's Basketball Conference Tournament final will be available. All other games from the tourney will be on the PAC-12 Net.

Nothing new here. Scott says the DirecTV offer is virtually the same as the other carriers; he claims that D* wants a different arrangement than what they have with the Big 10 & other RSNs; D* says they don't feel the pressure and haven't lost many subs; Face it D* has no desire to give PAC 12 fans what they want and nothing is going to happen until late summer when football season rolls around and the complaints pick-up. Thanks to D*, only one semifinal and the Men's Basketball Conference Tournament final will be available. All other games from the tourney will be on the PAC-12 Net.

That's inaccurate. DIRECTV® will not give anyone Pac-12 at the rate the Scotts of the world want. A fan is a fan is a fan, and for the majority, DIRECTV® has shown they "care" about them.

True about this thread, too. I was surprised to see it back on the front page. I was hoping for some news. Nope. Same stuff, different day. I'll wait until August and we get close to the football season before I drop by this thread again.

Nothing new here. Scott says the DirecTV offer is virtually the same as the other carriers; he claims that D* wants a different arrangement than what they have with the Big 10 & other RSNs; D* says they don't feel the pressure and haven't lost many subs;Face it D* has no desire to give PAC 12 fans what they want and nothing is going to happen until late summer when football season rolls around and the complaints pick-up. Thanks to D*, only one semifinal and the Men's Basketball Conference Tournament final will be available. All other games from the tourney will be on the PAC-12 Net.

You give us a link to a story that is 9 months old to get your point across?!?!... Lolololololol

You give us a link to a story that is 9 months old to get your point across?!?!... Lolololololol

BenVoodoo

He gives us the story because he thinks we care about pac16 or by next year 24 teams basketball games. I am sorry but the PAC has very little to offer in basketball. DirecTV might here something if we can't see football games that are big but then I'll just wait and see.

You give us a link to a story that is 9 months old to get your point across?!?!... Lolololololol

I wasn't the orginal poster of the story, I just provided a link that worked.

He gives us the story because he thinks we care about pac16 or by next year 24 teams basketball games. I am sorry but the PAC has very little to offer in basketball. DirecTV might here something if we can't see football games that are big but then I'll just wait and see.

I'm sorry if the PAC 12 doesn't meet your "lofty" standards but some of do care.

You give us a link to a story that is 9 months old to get your point across?!?!... Lolololololol

BenVoodoo

Did you actually read the article?

The link I posted was from an article from Feb. 25th referring to a live chat interview that Scott had with the Seattle Times on Feb. 21st. The date on the caption you are talking about is from a photo taken of Scott in July 2012.