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"difference of opinions"

i say fuck everyone who tries to go all 'its all opinions!' is a political etc debate. that shit might work with television or music or whatever but i actually take political opinions seriously because they drastically effect how people live. im not going to say 'well you're entitled to your opinion' to someone saying that gay marriage will destroy the "western family" because that kind of thinking is detrimental to society. i won't 'agree to disagree' with someone who says that poor inner-city blacks are poor because of personal responsibility rather than our racist culture, because that is an injustice i can't tolerate. im not saying my opinion can't be changed, because my opinion changes all the time when new information or compelling arguments are presented(im sure some old posts in this forum can clearly demonstrate that), but there are opinions out there that are just plain wrong(like thinking ronald reagan was a good president) and can't just be written off as 'OPINIONS!' if you actually care about shit.

this is in regards to debates so yes it belongs in the debate forum

"I'll go," said Chagataev. "But what will I do there? Build socialism?"
"What else?" said the secretary.

All social problems will be eliminated as soon as we reveal the Zionist conspiracy that holds the world in it's grasp.

"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Time Enough For Love, by Robert Heinlein

Not saying we shouldn't try and do something about them, but they're never going to go away. There will always be poor people, and racists, and fanatics, and atheists, and people who vote Labour and BNP, and we cannot get rid of them. We can reduce their numbers, but they'll never go away.

Of course Conservative, you idiot. In the London Election Conservatives won and Liberal Democrats were second. Labour were fourth, after the Greens. The Greens. Do you realise the importance of this!? We could be looking at a shift in British politics where Lib Dem and Conservative become the major parties, rather than Labour and Conservative.

Well actually there are other alternatives, but the only one worth throwing your vote at is the Monster Raving Loony Party on the off-chance that enough people are willing to gamble the future of the country on a joke.

Now I'm not the most brushed up with my British politics, but the UK Labour Party is more left-aligned with policies and an ideology revolving around democratic socialism. I didn't like Tony Blair though, especially with the introduction of the Third Way with Clinton, that philosophy to fuse elements of socialism and capitalism, which I can't understand how they can possibly try and stick free market and laissez-faire policies into left-wing politics. The Labour Party is being further pushed towards capitalism and the socialist stance is seeming more and more like a mere title. How is Gordon Brown doing? I haven't seen him in the news lately, I guess that's an indication he's doing better than most prime ministers.

But yeah, on the original topic, what really seperates political opinions and something like taste in music is really the huge scale of effect in has on our society. There is a very, very large number of people in this world who have absolutely ridiculous political opinions. While you could berate someone's TV programmes or fashion or something like that, the amount of difference and impact a change of political opinion can have is so much more. In society we can't afford to have every single person with a completely random and uneducated opinion on politics.

Green party: Why choose the lesser evil? Send the country to hell on the expressway.

Libertarian party: For when you want to be ABSOLUTELY SURE your vote doesn't count.

"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Time Enough For Love, by Robert Heinlein