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"At Villa the history is good. They won a European Cup and won a few titles back in the day, but they've not been a big club for a long time.

"I actually didn't particularly like playing at Villa. It was quite a dull. It very rarely had a great atmosphere apart from a League Cup quarter final we won 4-3 in the last minute with 6,000 Liverpool fans in the away end.

"It wasn't a 'wow' club for me. It's like a lot of clubs who fall by the wayside. Leeds are down there, that was always full.

"That was a big club. That was a proper game. Villa was never a big game, not to us it wasn't.