More non-Art riding the coat tails of actual intellectuals in #Anti-Wolf.

So....This is a thing that actually happened. And this is the response I received after I showed this person my three beautiful cats and my two perfect dogs, all five of which were adopted from a shelter:

"And like others have said before "If you are only nice to your pets you are not and never will be an animal lover" I also rescue animals. I'm not some PETA extremist that goes around saying "pets are the same as slaves" I have more of a heart for non human animals than you. Why? because you support killing the innocent. You support the culling and mass-killing of animals of which you are not emotionally attached to. I've personally rescued four count em' four wolf pups in your so-called "hunting season"[Redacted] knows about it and soon many others will too. So stop trying to say poachers are the bad guys and "hunters" are angels because the are and always will be the same thing."

I'm just saying this. Shelter animals would have a chance at being rescued. If not, they would die a very nice, quiet death (although still a depressing one.) A group of wolf cubs, however... if a hunter or poacher shot the mom and left the cubs, depending on their age they would likely starve to death or would be killed by other predators. If the hunter/poacher decided to finish them off, it would either be a horrifically short and terrifying bullet to the head or else a violent twisting of the head, causing the neck to snap. But, yeah. Mm.

"Orphaned" wolf pups don't starve to death. When asked by media representatives if a wolf hunt would complicate the social structure of wolf packs and result in low pup-survival rates or orphaned pups not learning necessary survival skills, noted wolf biologist Dr. Dave Mech replied that research doesn't support that conclusion. "Most of what wolves require behaviorally for survival is instinctual for wolves. They don't need to be taught by the parents." Research shows that young wolves can survive on their own by September, at four-to-six months of age. [link]

Yes, I agree that I spoke irrationally on that subject. But, you yourself stated very clearly in a previous comment that a pup would be able to take care of itself when it was roughly four to six months of age. Would, say, a one month old be able to find a continuous stream of food for itself if it's parent was killed? Again, I said "depending on age." I don't know how to say that clearer. And, it appears we have different views about views themselves. Hmm.

I've noticed something about you, looking at posts you've placed all over. You tend to find one mistake, one typo, one misinformed piece of text that you either disagree with or find wrong, and you ATTACK it, disregarding the rest of the post, as sensible or inspiring as it may be. I would normally admire that strategic way to pick a fight. But oddly I don't feel the same way about you.

They are VIEWS. I could consider your views nonsense but I don't, not really, although I disagree with them. Views do not correlate with science. They are views. Did anything in my first post even stand out to you except one misinformed piece of text? You must be a negative, corrective person, indeed. But no surprise, looking around this site of yours...

Yes, your views are ill-informed, wrong, and go against science. Not sure how many times I must repeat myself. Depending on what the topic is, yes views correlate with science... and since you were talking about wolf pups starving to death if a hunter kills their parents, that's both illogical and unscientific.

(somehow I managed to reply this to the wrong place -.-) Yes, I agree that I spoke irrationally on that subject. But, you yourself stated very clearly in a previous comment that a pup would be able to take care of itself when it was roughly four to six months of age. Would, say, a one month old be able to find a continuous stream of food for itself if it's parent was killed? Again, I said "depending on age." I don't know how to say that clearer. And, it appears we have different views about views themselves. Hmm.

I've noticed something about you, looking at posts you've placed all over. You tend to find one mistake, one typo, one misinformed piece of text that you either disagree with or find wrong, and you ATTACK it, disregarding the rest of the post, as sensible or inspiring as it may be. I would normally admire that strategic way to pick a fight. But oddly I don't feel the same way about you.

First of all, hunting doesn't happen in May (which is when you're implying the one month old would be orphaned). Hunting happens in late September-October, giving the pups enough time to mature. Yes, there are such things as poachers, but you're also forgetting other variables such as whether or not this magical one month old was in a wolf pack, because other members look after the pups too. You're just assuming all poachers go out and kill the entire family leaving the pups to die when that certainly isn't true. You don't even know how hard it is to hunt a wolf, but I won't even get into that.

So....err... In this person's mind, what happens if a species reproduces itself to starvation?

And this might be bias 'cause my uncle and cousin hunt deer and goats and stuff, but "So stop trying to say poachers are the bad guys and "hunters" are angels because they are and always will be the same thing," are they nuts?? Hunters don't go out shooting/trapping endangered species, for one thing, Sweetheart. >___>

And also, congrats on all the shelter pets. ♥ Our family does that too. We've had 2 cats and 3 dogs, who were either shelter animals or from military families who couldn't keep them and wanted to choose the pet's next owner themselves.

Now you see, your mistake was assuming that pets were *real* animals; they're actually a type of colored moss. In order to be a *real* animal lover you must love real animals. Currently identified real animals are wolves, dolphins and pandas.

Scientists are not entirely sure yet; foxes have a high degree of wolfality, which counts in their favor, but they lack the necessary moon-holwing quality that would cement their place. Some argue they are a ssubspecies of wolves (Along with huskies and wolfdogs.) but others arguet hey are a link between wolves and lower animals.

Bengal tigers looked promising for a long time, however it was then discovered that they are related to cats, the anthiesis of all things wolf. As such they have been classed as slime molds.

That's just about as good as one nutter I met claiming she "rescues wild wolves" (rescues as in brings them into her home and treats them like dogs). I must say, she DID have some adorable malamutes though.

People forget that wild animals must STAY wild x'D they need ther freedom, and rescue don't mean treat like you'd do with a dog (nor like a human)... They will only get it into their mind when they finish destroying every living thing on the world :<