'The Floor Was Splashed With Blood': Horrifying Details From Ebola Ground Zero Where Nearly 900 People Have Diedhttp://www.businessinsider.com/doctors-describe-ebola-outbreak-2014-8/comments
en-usWed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500Sun, 02 Aug 2015 20:59:39 -0400Lauren F Friedmanhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/53e8e9b16bb3f71d1835c05eRocketdogMon, 11 Aug 2014 12:05:05 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/53e8e9b16bb3f71d1835c05e
And you know this ...............how? Only because you read it somewhere?
Presumably the medical staff at Doctors Without Borders and the WHO are very experienced in standard infection control practices. Then why some of these very people are being infected? Have they suddenly decided to become careless when faced with an incurable plague virus? Also, although there have been other variants of Ebola virus, this specific one we are dealing with is the most deadly, according to the medical journals I have read.
This leads me to conclude that even if other variants of the virus are "nothing to worry about", this one could be. Would you concede this possibility? Also, what if this specific variant mutates in the wild?
You appear to be intelligent, so tell me, Laurence, what is wrong with exercising caution until all the modes of transmission of this specific Ebola variant are known with certainty?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/53e8e7b36da811116a273a37RocketdogMon, 11 Aug 2014 11:56:35 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/53e8e7b36da811116a273a37
Excellent post - I wish I could award you 100 likes. We should err on the side of caution to protect the American public, instead of telling people there is no cause for concern. Unfortunately, it appears there is a very high number of people that believe everything they read and do not use reason and logic to analyze problems.
Bottom line, this is a serious disease that has no cure. That enough should encourage the "authorities" tasked with protecting the public to be extremely cautious.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/53e8e4f56da8110c60273a36RocketdogMon, 11 Aug 2014 11:44:53 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/53e8e4f56da8110c60273a36
Before the spelling elves chime in, it is supposed to be "good hygiene" not "god hygiene"http://www.businessinsider.com/c/53e8e4a16da811305a273a38RocketdogMon, 11 Aug 2014 11:43:29 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/53e8e4a16da811305a273a38
So, are you saying that we should not worry about Ebola either, because "we do not worry about those diseases"? For the record, I do worry about pesticides and human contamination in my food, have done so for years. This is why I maintain a year-round vegetable garden, and for fruit and vegetables I cannot grow myself, I practice god hygiene. Hantavirus is spread by rodents, so I make sure I do not give rats a chance to breed in my house, and periodically have a pest control expert examine my house, garage and basement.
Maybe you don't care, but I assure you that there are a lot of other people that DO CARE, very much. I do not live in the Southwest, but if I did, I would make sure I took adequate precautions.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/53e46a436bb3f71f7310adc8Randall TillotsonFri, 08 Aug 2014 02:12:19 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/53e46a436bb3f71f7310adc8
It has been proven that while airborne transmission is not a problem, aerosols emitted from a sick person i.e. sneezeing or coughing, can emit fine aerosol particulate, which, if attached to dust particles, can float on the air, and thus induce infection in someone that ingests them. A study done with pigs infected with Ebola which were separated by a wire mesh screen from monkeys found that the monkeys were infected via this method. To say, what the CDC and WHO claim is not exactly accurate. Go to the firs video link I posted on the biosafety lab, and you wil see how they treat Ebola, a Level 4 biohazard. Either the biohazard rating is wrong and inaccurate, or we are being put in grave danger.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/53e4016669bedd543857f1beLaurence HuntThu, 07 Aug 2014 18:44:54 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/53e4016669bedd543857f1be
I clicked "like," because this is very informative. Do keep in mind that this disease is spread via bodily fluids, so other modes of transmission are not a concern.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/53e21712ecad04270765f089Randall TillotsonWed, 06 Aug 2014 07:52:50 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/53e21712ecad04270765f089
This opening line, “While the panic over American Ebola patients being treated in Atlanta is unfounded...” is not based on facts. These people have a Level 4 plague virus. Now take the time to examine how the National Emerging Infectious Diseases Laboratories (NEIDL) facility based in Boston handles Level 4 viruses in this one hour documentary.
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqAjkjGq8Ug" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqAjkjGq8Ug</a>
This doctor, Bob Arnot, who has worked in Africa and with Ebola patients, tells us that there was no medical need to transport these two people to the U.S., and it would have been just as easy to treat them in Africa with teams sent from the U.S. Bringing them back to the U.S. was an unnecessary risk, sanctioned by the U.S. State Department.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHAK6oX-JN4" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHAK6oX-JN4</a>
In this video of Dr. Kent Brantly's arrival to Emory University Hospital, I noted two startling issues that seem obvious after watching this NEIDL film: 1) it appears that Dr. Brantly's hood is not secured where the neck meets the shoulders; 2) where are the boots to protect the feet portion of the suits. They appear to be walking on gravel, which could easily puncture the suits. Shouldn't he have been put either on a gurney or in a wheel chair, to protect his suit? In the NEIDL documentary, their air pressurized suits, which appear to be a much thicker and sturdier quality, require thick plastic boots to protect damage to the feet portion of the suits. This, apparently, is being totally ignored with this Level 4 plague patient.
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg6yZFP9Xs4" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg6yZFP9Xs4</a>
Then, in this film, we see a newsman with a camera within feet of this sick person. This must be considered a security breach. What if he was some nut that planned to run out and stab this patient in a suicide mission to start a plague? Or what if there was simply an aerosol accidental release from this sick person, that traveled to this reporter? It takes only one Ebola virus germ to attach to dust particles and if ingested, infect the unsuspecting person. And if the fears of a pandemic are so groundless, how did those African doctors and health care workers get infected, since they were obviously taking what appear to be the same precautions as Emory University Hospital? How did the two American aid workers get infected? I have not read that the wing that Emory University Hospital has placed these patients is a secure Level 4 biosafety certified building. Either the NEIDL security is overkill, or Emory University Hospital is committing an act of gross negligence.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IJM8tuzA7E" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IJM8tuzA7E</a>
We've all seen the flimsy tent with which he was transported within the aircraft. If that plane had encountered some turbulence and the plastic breached, the entire flight crew would have been exposed, or what if the worst case scenario occurred: the plane crashed in high population center? We've had a lot of airplane accidents lately, just to remind us that no matter how safe air travel may be, it can turn fatally wrong. Here's a video of that insulting tent. Do they think we are idiots? Just look at all that material that could be released during a bout of turbulence or a sudden drop in altitude when hitting an air pocket--a common event in air travel. The flimsy plastic tent would easily be breached, and this man's white hazmat suit could easily be torn.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4stN14htpnA" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4stN14htpnA</a>
In this video of the ambulance transporting Dr. Brantly, where is the police escort? What if this ambulance gets in a serious traffic accident, and this man is ejected from the ambulance? Remember, this is a Level 4 plague virus that the NEIDL classifies as one of the top dangerous viruses in the world.
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IShAdplFAck" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IShAdplFAck</a>
Finally, there's the "precautionary principle" that is being totally ignored in this instance.
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precautionary_principle" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precautionary_principle</a> It states: "The precautionary principle or precautionary approach states that if an action or policy has a suspected risk of causing harm to the public or to the environment, in the absence of scientific consensus that the action or policy is not harmful, the burden of proof that it is not harmful falls on those taking an action.
The principle is used by policy makers to justify discretionary decisions in situations where there is the possibility of harm from taking a particular course or making a certain decision when extensive scientific knowledge on the matter is lacking. The principle implies that there is a social responsibility to protect the public from exposure to harm, when scientific investigation has found a plausible risk. These protections can be relaxed only if further scientific findings emerge that provide sound evidence that no harm will result."
Scientific investigation HAS found a plausible risk, and that risk is being totally ignored.
These are the facts that we are not being told, so disregard this declaration of fears being “unfounded.” It's articles like this that are lulling the American public into a false sense of security.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/53e176556da811bd1578206ftroobleTue, 05 Aug 2014 20:27:01 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/53e176556da811bd1578206f
Ebola is a serious killer, but we have surveillance and excellent emergency medicine. Ebola, unlike HIV, makes people very sick very quick. Unlike HIV, the cases are impossible to hide because of the severity of symptoms. Cases would be quickly diagnosed and treated, before there was a chance to spread. Do you know that the US has endemic bubonic plague in the Southwest? Also hantavirus, various serious abdominal ailments in our vegetables, even cholera? How often do you worry about those diseases?