The wheels are coming off the clown car that is the modern Republican Party. House and Senate GOP leaders are sniping at each other, on Twitter and, even more nastily, via their congressional aides. And no ones been more vilified than the junior senator from Texas, Ted Cruz. Not even Barack Obama, for a change.

Cruz has defiantly led his party down the dead-end path of demanding that Democrats agree to defund Obamacare in exchange for Republicans voting to keep funding the government. Polls find even Republicans dont like that idea, and so a few GOP politicians are asking what Cruzs endgame is. And when Cruz said he knew Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid wouldnt let such a bill pass the Senate, and suggested it was all up to House Republicans, the knives came out.

Rep. Paul Ryan told Politico in an interview, not via Twitter, that hostility to Cruz and other Senate GOP extremists is pretty palpable in our conference, I would say. You mean about how theyre saying were not going to fight, and back at you, were not going to fight but forget about what we said earlier? Yeah, theres a bit of frustration. We all believe the same thing, we all want to achieve the same goal, and so we shouldnt be questioning each others conservatism over tactical disagreements.(continued)

Never-ever have I seen so much of the establishment fight so hard to force a law that nobody wants, nobody needed, and both parties agree is going to be bad both in regards to cost, service, and the economy?

Yet the high and sanctimonious media and political hacks insist of forcing it down our throats with a boot to the back of our necks.

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posted on 09/21/2013 10:26:50 PM PDT
by blackdog
(There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)

yah. he's the one that they're afraid of most apparently, which makes him my kind of guy.

Cruz/Gowdy my wet-dream team from hell for the liberals!

I'll tell them something for free. If the media pick this years nomination again, you know, the McCain's/Ryan's/Christie's etc, all these moderate squishy types, then I not only won't vote for them, I'll stay at home. I don't HAVE to vote which is something that GOP "leaders" seem to fail to take into their calculations.

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posted on 09/21/2013 10:33:42 PM PDT
by HeartlandOfAmerica
(Obama&Admin=An army of deer, led by a lion is more to be feared than an army of lions led by a deer)

“We all believe the same thing, we all want to achieve the same goal, and so we shouldnt be questioning each others conservatism over tactical disagreements.”

I have a hard time with this argument. How does funding Obamacare now result in getting rid of it in any plausible future? Even if R’s take the Senate in 2014, repeal will never get past a filibuster nor a veto. Does he really think there’s a good chance conservatives we will get a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate and the presidency in 2016?

Barring that, there’s no chance for repeal. Therefore, this is not about tactics regarding the best way to get rid of Obamacare, it is about whether Obamacare becomes permanent.

Conclusion: It is a strategic dispute within the Republican party (disguised as tactics) about whether Obamacare SHOULD be gotten rid of.

When Obama/Reid and the demonrats come to you begging for money to fund the government, say here it is and present your prepared budget — with zero funds for obamacare — and let them know straight up that there will also be NO debt limit increase and, throwing Obama’s own words back at them, there will be NO negotiations!!

If they say no or refuse to go along, reject what the senate demonrats send back to you and begin passing “clean” appropriation bills one by one per each essential department with no amendments allowed. Double dog dare them to deny funding to each department, one by one!!

Keep up the good work all the way to Nov 2014 if necessary. We the people have your backs!!

It’s your constitutional power and duty to control the runaway government. Do your duty!!

In The Federalist No. 58, James Madison described the centrality of the power of the purse’s role in the growth of representative government and its particular importance in the Constitution’s governmental structure:

“The House of Representatives cannot only refuse, but they alone can propose the supplies requisite for the support of the government. They, in a word, hold the pursethat powerful instrument by which we behold, in the history of the British Constitution, an infant and humble representation of the people gradually enlarging the sphere of its activity and importance, and finally reducing, as far as it seems to have wished, all the overgrown prerogatives of the other branches of government. This power over the purse may, in fact, be regarded as the most complete and effectual weapon with which any constitution can arm the immediate representatives of the people, for obtaining a redress of every grievance, and for carrying into effect every just and salutary measure.”

See my post number 31 just after yours. The House of Representatives has the power to rein in an out of control government by denying them the funds. This is per James Madison aka the Father of the Constitution.

Let Gov. Palin’s comment be a lesson to the sharks on this site. Note, Juan McCain holds positions 180 degrees out of kilter with hers. She HAD to say absurd things as a VP nominee, thanks to McCain, Scmidt and Wallace. We can’t be so hard on those few who are kindred spirits. We’ve got to cut them some slack. Bob

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posted on 09/22/2013 12:15:09 AM PDT
by alstewartfan
("Guardian angels, wherever you may be Reach down and keep my soul for me. Al Stewart)

As Machiavelli stated—the Truth will always be hated more than Lies. Marxists can’t stand the Truth. And Ted Cruz is an intellectual to boot and can easily express his ideas without a teleprompter like his dad. He is a real and present danger.

You can always tell who is telling the Truth by how much the left hates a person....llke a Palin, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz.

Look at how Tom DeLay was persecuted for 10 years using the legal system. McCarthy was destroyed and he was just telling the Truth. The Marxists are evil—they will destroy you and kill you if they can, and your family, if they get the chance. History proves how people with “Truth” get killed and exiled or demonized-—like W. Chambers, Breitbart/JFK/Reagan (attempt). The Marxists have to be able to kill the Truth, so children can be totally brainwashed with lies 24/7 .

We need to get our schools back from the Left—and MSM away from the Marxists/NWO sodomites.

To me this sounds like any agency can use whatever funds the house gives them. They don’t need obama’s signature. After all, he doesn’t actually write the checks. And what could he veto? A budget? There’s not one. Can he veto a CR?

To fund it, the bill would have to be passed by both houses and signed into law by the president. But if the house wants to deny funding, say for an unconstitutional runaway program like obamacare, they simply refuse to pass a bill funding it and there’s nothing the senate or the president can do about it. In other words, the House has the constitutional power to snap shut the purse. Just say no!

And it’s not like there’s any reason to negotiate or compromise. I can’t think of any bill the republicans should be wishing to pass at this time, other than bills repealing or cutting government.

The wheels are coming off the Democrat clown car too! A lot of Democrats are against Obamacare. Republicans love Ted Cruz. The only wheels coming off on the right are the GOPe wheels who will be replaced in 2014 and 2016.

Quite a few, and the vast majority have no idea who Ted Cruz is. But as the word gets out, gradually the awareness will grow, and people respond to honest, common sense conservative ideas, and they recoil from the standard line of BS that the political class has been feeding them for decades. Once they realize that Cruz is not just another self-serving political hack (and I pray that he's not), the tide will begin to turn.

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posted on 09/22/2013 1:38:00 AM PDT
by Fresh Wind
(The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)

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