You know its coming. As soon as the fiscal cliff is finished, illegal immigration is next.

Sen. Graham and Sen. Shumar have already resumed their illegal immigration talks from two years ago. Both were on the sunday shows talking about the plan. Both are seeing a possible huge bi-partisan deal is now possible based on their earlier work form two years ago.

Main points of the deal:

Lock down the border. Spend whatever money and political will to truly stop the flow of people over our borders.

A nationwide verification of employment. The idea is to come up with some kind of non forgeable document. A E-Verify for immigrants.

Increase legal immigration, especially for scientists, engineers and other fields that benefit America or workers are in short supply, i.e. workers who pick our produce in the fields.

Stiff and severe penalties for businesses that hire illegals after the "E-Verify type" system is in place.

The Dream act is part of the total package.

Every illegal in the country is possible allowed to stay legally in the country. The conditions are:

They must enter into that "E-Verify type" system.

They are allowed to apply for citizenship but they go to the back of the line of people that already have green cards or have already applied for citizenship.

They must pay a fine for entering the country illegally.

They are allowed to stay as long until their citizenship paperwork is finalized, as long as they commit no crimes and pay all taxes that everyone else pays. Failure to so that = immediate deportation.

What crime is deportable is TBD.

Size of the fine is TBD.

The Gang of Six bipartisan proposal.

Today a group of powerful U.S. Senators announced they have agreed to a framework on comprehensive immigration reform. The bipartisan group includes Senators Chuck Schumer (D-NY), Dick Durbin (D-IL), Bob Menendez (D-NJ), Michael Bennett (D-CO), Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Marco Rubio (R-FL), John McCain (R-AZ), and Jeff Flake (R-AZ). The fact that both parties have agreed to the deal gives it much better prospects for passage.

Path to Citizenship

The bill would include a “tough, fair, and practical roadmap to address the status of unauthorized immigrants in the United States.” At the same time, the framework states that this path to citizenship would be “contingent upon our success in securing our borders and addressing visa overstays.”

The bill would require those currently living in the United States illegally to register with the government, pass a background check, and settle their debt to society by paying a fine and back taxes. Individuals with a serious criminal background or those who “pose a threat to our national security” would be ineligible and subject to deportation.

Current restrictions keeping non-immigrants from accessing “public benefits” would also apply to those who are on the path the citizenship.

Once they have passed the background check and paid their “debt to society”, those on “probationary legal status” will be placed at the back of the line for prospective immigrants. These probationary immigrants will then have to “pass another background check, pay taxes, learn English and civics, demonstrate a history of work in the United States, and current employment” in order to apply for lawful permanent residency.

Exemptions would be made for minors who did not knowingly violate U.S. immigration laws when they entered the United States and agricultural workers.

The Bill would increase Border Patrol efforts by “providing them with the latest technology, infrastructure, and personnel needed.” The legislation would increase the number of Border Patrol agents and the number of unmanned aerial vehicles, or drones, monitoring the border.

The bill would “strengthen prohibitions against racial profiling and inappropriate use of force” by increasing the training of border patrol agents and increasing oversight.

The bill would create an “entry-exit system” that would track whether all persons entering the United States on a temporary visa leave the country as required by law.

The bill would create a commission of “governors, attorneys general, and community leaders living along the Southwest border to monitor the progress of securing our border and make recommendations.”

Skilled Worker Immigration

The bill would develop a “rational legal immigration system” to reduce the backlog of visas which force families to live apart and keep specialized jobs unfilled.

The bill would also award a green card to immigrants who receive a PhD or Master’s degree in science, technology, engineering, or math from an American university.

Employment Verification

The bill would implement a “fast and reliable method to confirm whether new hires are legally authorized to work in the United States.”

The bill would place stiff fines and criminal penalties on employers who knowingly hire undocumented workers.

Low Skilled Workers

The bill would allow “more lower-skilled immigrants to come here when our economy is creating jobs, and fewer when our economy is not creating jobs.”

Employers who want to hire lower-skilled immigrants would have to demonstrate that they could not successfully recruit an American and that the hiring of the immigrant will not displace American workers

Too bad. If I move to another country you better believe I will learn the language the best I can. Language is a cultural barrier. If they don't learn the language they will never really be part of the American culture as a whole. People are more than welcome and encouraged to maintain their native cultures and customs but they also should be part of aspects of the American culture, especially one shared by the majority of Americans such as language.

The English language is one of the few qualities that everyone who comes here can have in common. This helps remove barriers in daily living, it prevents racism and prejudice, as well as prevent people from segregating themselves from others. How American can an area really be in which people speak nothing but Spanish, don't try to learn English, and have no desire or even need to speak English? (I know this scenario is an extreme and a generalization). The country and the individuals themselves are better off if immigrants speak English well enough to get by in daily living. Unfortunately not all immigrants seem to realize or concern themselves with those two things.

I'm not sure that the majority of illegals actually do want to become Americans, at least to the point where they would accept assimilation.

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I'm not sure that the majority of illegals actually do want to become Americans, at least to the point where they would accept assimilation.

Well you're wrong. Again.

From what i've seen, even the elderly want to be American. I'm sure there is a segment out there full of retards who still think we need to give California back to Mexico, but from my experience, they want to be Americans.

The problem resides with these people who are 30+ years old who struggle to learn a second language.

I'm not sure that the majority of illegals actually do want to become Americans, at least to the point where they would accept assimilation.

That is a good point. Immigrants that want to come here and assimilate do so because it is the land of opportunity and you can try to make yourself something out of nothing. For the illegals who don't want to assimilate its the land of where there is plenty of grass to cut and leaves to be blown. There just seems to be no desire to do better for themselves for many of them, which part of that is because of the inability to speak the language.

If some of them truely and honestly enjoys that work that is terrific and more power to them for doing what they want. I know there are days when I would rather be doing that. That being said, its a shame they don't pay taxes into the system the way any American born person would if they did the same work. I guess I could be wrong, but I don't imagine companies that hire illegal immigrants have any way of imposing any kind of taxes or contributing money to the local schools that are educating the illegal children. I feel like I am all over the place.