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dang it will work on resizing and upload them again this afternoon as i can. if they dont show up it will be because they are being deleated from the server for a short period when i an uploading new, smaller pics

thanks Tony, the N. bongso is the one i got from you last fall. definatly a favorite. very hardy to, infact i think its less picky about my house hold conditions than my N. x ventrata. that peristrome should be a glossy pitch black in a few more weeks.