Ubuntu Governance

Community Council

There was some concern that interest in the MOTU community had waned, but "there were several sessions at UDS and I think we're hoping that the reinvigoration will lead to more applicants"

It was brought up that some feel "PPAs and extras.ubuntu.com have reduced the incentive to get involved in the distro"

Discussed some of how Ubuntu Membership and Ubuntu Developers teams are related, sometimes a PPU may want to be granted but this gives them Ubuntu Membership automatically and they may not have satisfied typical requirements for Ubuntu Membership otherwise; the proposal to decouple upload rights from membership was brought up

ACTION: beuno to start a thread with the DMB and CC to discuss the topics that have come from todays meeting

ACTION: everyone try and be at CC meeting July 5th 17:00 UTC (Laney, 14:14:29) ACTION: micahg to start a discussion on dmb@ about whether PPU should confer membership (Laney, 14:15:32)

Ubuntu Contributing Developer Application: Vibhav Pant

LINK:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers describes a requirement for "significant and sustained contributions" which is normally understood as 6 months (tumbleweed, 14:20:10) ACTION: chair for next meeting (Laney, 14:37:33)

Meeting ended at 14:38:26 UTC.

Votes

Should Vibhav Pant Pant become an Ubuntun Contributing Developer

For: 0 Against: 3 Abstained: 0

Action items

micahg document the zentyal packageset

everyone try and be at CC meeting July 5th 17:00 UTC

micahg to start a discussion on dmb@ about whether PPU should confer membership

Action items, by person

micahg

* micahg document the zentyal packageset

* micahg to start a discussion on dmb@ about whether PPU should confer membership

14:23:39 <IdleOne> I would just like to reiterate my comments that were also made at a precious Regional membership board meeting. I do not think vibhav is mature enough to be considered for Ubuntu membership. He lacks the necessary "team spirit" this community is built on. I strongly suggest his application be rejected until he can show more of the needed qualities. I am also concerned with the recent changes that were applied to the wiki page i.e comments

14:24:38 <Laney> I'm concerned about why you thought trying to hide it from us was appropriate.

14:24:49 <vibhav> sorry

14:26:13 <Laney> We might have been able to have a discussion about the content of the comment, but that is now overshadowed by this, IMHO.

14:26:36 <vibhav> I agree, that was really stupid of me

14:26:45 <ikonia> it's not the first time you've done it

14:26:50 <tumbleweed> yeah, one of the most important things I'm looking for in a prospective Ubuntu developer is trust from other developers

14:27:04 <ikonia> this whole telling lies thing is getting to be a real insult to the constant applications to the community

14:27:13 <Laney> I'm also very concerned that you have been to other membership boards and aren't following their advice.

14:27:44 <IdleOne> vibhav: part of being in a community is being able to accept criticism from your peers and learning from that criticism. Trying to hide it from the DMB was not only stupid, as you put it, but for me it shows a lack of trustworthiness.

14:32:40 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)

14:32:50 <Laney> (without typo) (with question mark)

14:33:31 <micahg> -1 only three months of dev work, wiki behaviour is an example not befitting an Ubuntu member regardless

14:33:31 <meetingology> -1 only three months of dev work, wiki behaviour is an example not befitting an Ubuntu member regardless received from micahg

14:34:17 <tumbleweed> -1 (as above)

14:34:17 <meetingology> -1 (as above) received from tumbleweed

14:34:31 <Laney> -1 Not been contribution for six months (the minimum, as advised). Dishonest behaviour, even when this has clearly been noticed.

14:34:31 <meetingology> -1 Not been contribution for six months (the minimum, as advised). Dishonest behaviour, even when this has clearly been noticed. received from Laney