.m. easterntime.wolfblitzerishosting that, and we will obviously carry that for you live when it happens. want to talk a little bit more about the fiscal cliff. chief business correspondent ali velshi joins us. you heard brianna talk about this meeting with ceos about that. how much of that is pr and how much of that is really critical conversation? >> well, the very conservative leaders, and anti-tax leaders, have called the whole thing pr. they think it's giving the president cover. you see there the ceos of aetna, xerox, american express, honeywell, walmart, ge, dow, procter & gamble, ford, pepsi. these are not people who are hostile to the president, so is it giving him cover? these are big employers. the president needs to discuss the fiscal cliff and taxes with them. what the allegation is is that there are no representatives of small business there and no representatives of the don't touch taxes, the grover norquist u.s. chamber of commerce group represented there. that's a relationship the president doesn't have. >> i think it could be you're right i don't know that all of th you