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2017 q70!

Looks like the 2017 model is identical to the '16. I haven't found any specs on it yet but it's definitely not a redesign. So no 3.0TT, no new colors, no improved entertainment systems for another year... just an increased base price. It's as if they don't want to sell them, I'm still finding left over '15 models at dealerships. I can only imagine why...

There have been a couple of '15 models local to the NY area, V8 ones to be exact. Last year I did find a nicely optioned leftover 2014 3.7 early in the year as well as a 2014 5.6 AWD that sat until late summer. It seems the high entry price of the V8 keeps them in showrooms.

Don't understand why dealers hold on to them like that. I'm negotiating now on a '16 Durango R/T that's been sitting on the lot for 6 months.
They clearly can't move it & the FCA incentives all run out in a week, but all they seem interested in is bending me over on my trade

I never understood it either, I notice the managers and sales employees drive the Q70s then they sell the car as a demo. They still lose on it regardless I would think, I don't know why they don't just come to an agreement at sensible numbers and sell them new. I'm sure they get tons of inquiries on these cars, they're really well optioned.

Regarding the 2017s I just don't see a reason to get one. It will feel the same as my M37 unless I get a 5.6L, then I have to deal with the 74K asking price. Surely many of them will sit until 2018 rolls around.

I had my M56 for 6 years. Really liked it. Bought the S7 which costs about 20K more but leased for the same and I'm not looking back. The M has more personality but is inferior in most regards. Infiniti can do better and I hope they do. I'll be a bit more skeptical the next time around. Although the M was a pretty good car overall it doesn't meet expectations for the price.

S7 is a mean car, lol. I watched an RS7 running at the dragstrip before, that was an experience. Also I sat in an RS7 at the dealership, it is very nice inside and sits really low. And the engine has a nice roar, if Infiniti used their turbo technology and did to the VK56 what they did with the 3.0TT engines they could have a mean competitor.

Aside from that I started looking into the new E43 AMG. It is pricier than a Q70 5.6 AWD but not by much, and it seems to offer more options for the money. But it seems a bit smaller inside, and I don't like the idea of what looks like an iPad of a gauge cluster.

At this point I think all of the competition outranks the Q70 because of Infinitis lack of updates to the car, technology wise. But its not a volume car so I could see why they would letit languish on until the new models debuts. But if they updated the tech at the level they updated the looks, it would still be a very competitive car. Look wise I still think it hangs with the best of them, if not outranks them. They really nailed it with the exterior refresh.

It's crazy how they limit the choices on this car, no wonder it's a tough sell. To get the nice wood or Java, you have to order the hybrid - WTF !!
Then they bundle the Tech & Sport pkgs (+ make you buy the luminated sills, which SHOULD be std on a car @ this level).
Even the exterior colors are stale, heck the Maxima has better color choices.

There's just no way I'd plunk down $70k+ and not get the interior I wanted + a boring exterior color !

My guess is if you can find an M56 new it will probably discount pretty good. It is a good car and is very reminiscent of an old/and/or new American muscle car. Very comfortable, raw power, fairly quiet, darn fast, and still has most of the tech goods. Again when I compare it to what I have now it is a fun car. You want to drive it fast. Can't say the same about the new car I own which always feels serene at any speed. I would buy one again but not at $70K. $60k seems fair. I paid $65K when the car first came out which is a bit much. However, over the time I had it, I can't complain. It just comes down to a choice in a price range and if you look at it simply in those terms, the car is fine.

Count me in on the 'why' when it comes to a lot of this new tech. I turned a lot of it off in my old M45, was just more annoying than helpful. Don't really understand or use all the crap that came with Sync3 (Mustang) or Uconnect (Hellcat). Why do I need phone style apps or Wifi in my car ?? Or the ability to start it remotely with my phone ??

Hands free phone when people can hear what you are saying is pretty good. Auto braking could also be added to the list. Some of the other ones I get as well if people are really into it, such as internet radio. But, trying to make the car sync with the phone and have all the same options is not very realistic.

I think I can add routes to the Nav through the cars website and they send it to my car. Tried it once though and it didn't work. This might have some use though. I can also read all my texts but obviously can't respond while driving. I think some cars give you a few preset responses but the whole instant information through texting doesn't suit my style. I prefer real conversation most of the time. I might even have voice to text but since I hate texting I guess it doesn't matter, to me.

I actually do have preset responses. So today after a customer sent a paragraph, I replied OK. I just love responding to a long text with Yes, No, OK, or Maybe. This is what builds relationships, I think.

It's crazy how they limit the choices on this car, no wonder it's a tough sell. To get the nice wood or Java, you have to order the hybrid - WTF !!
Then they bundle the Tech & Sport pkgs (+ make you buy the luminated sills, which SHOULD be std on a car @ this level).
Even the exterior colors are stale, heck the Maxima has better color choices.

There's just no way I'd plunk down $70k+ and not get the interior I wanted + a boring exterior color !

This is where the Germans eat EVERY Japanese brand's lunch. Lexus does a moderately better job than Infiniti, and I will say that BMW's color choices on anything above the 3-series these days really suck.

How is it that I can't equip a car with 90s green on a beige leather and wood interior?

Off to the Mercedes site I go!

Merc and Audi seem to be the only ones left who understand that there are people who want something other than silver, black, white, or a blue that is so dark it looks black.

I have been a loyal Nissan/Infiniti customer for nearly 25 years. In my recent search for a replacement to my 2011 M37s, I test drove the Q60 RedSport 400 and really liked the performance. However, the usable space for me was too small for practical family purposes.

Needing a replacement sooner than later, ran by the local BMW dealer and drove a new 540i Msport. To say the least i was very impressed, the technology and refinement were above and beyond anything in the class. Also drove the Audi s6 and really liked it. The Audi is getting a redesign next year so that checked that one off the list.

Hopefully, Infiniti can get things together, I have owned 4 vehicles and each has been superb in every regard.

Fingers crossed the BMW will be trouble free, it is on the boat from Germany as I type.

My uncle just picked up a new 530i and he was explaining to me his likes and dislikes. He came out of a 2015 335i sedan so he feels it's a bit slower but rides nicer and is more "mature" lol. This brought me to looking into the 5 series and lo and behold, you can buy a new M550i for 74K. Wait, 74K? That's the price of a Q70 5.6 AWD... But the Bimmer has turbos on the V8, more luxury feel, fresh design, blah blah blah... Infiniti really needs to step it up, I know they can do it