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At this point in time, I'd be happy with a 3rd for Smith. He's got $3.25M per year left until 2021. He can still put up 30 points, but seems to have lost the physical edge to his game. Maybe an example of a guy that got paid and took his foot off the pedal?

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wprager wrote:Smith *was* worth a conditional 1st a couple/three seasons ago. If any GMs from that time are still around and in a position to need some grit, then, perhaps, but I really doubt it.

My guess is he's traded for someone signed with similar term. He's not a rental and right now he's not worth what he is making.

Connor Murphy in Chicago comes to mind. Overpaid, underperforming RHD. That's more or less what I can see them getting for him. A trade like this could also be a pre-cursor for a Ceci trade. If Chicago is intent on dumping salary (which I believe they are) Ryan Hartman is going to get a pretty heft raise. Smith, prospect(s) for Hartman and Murphy could address some areas for both teams.

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dennycrane wrote:What does Wideman get by next Monday? Brilliant PR move by him (or his agent) to have a public skate.

I doubt he gets traded. The injury being one factor, and then our uncertain future with a couple other d-men (Oduya and Karlsson for starters) being the other factor.

They’d probably do well to resign him honestly. Worse comes to worse, you trade him.

Agreed. Always good to have assets but it depends on whether or not the Sens can bring someone in and how much of a rebuild the Sens are willing to do. I can see a deal occurring between Chicago and Ottawa centered around Ryan/Seabrook. Chicago has coveted Smith for some time, Anderson is from Chicago, and Crawford may be injured for some time.

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dennycrane wrote:What does Wideman get by next Monday? Brilliant PR move by him (or his agent) to have a public skate.

I doubt he gets traded. The injury being one factor, and then our uncertain future with a couple other d-men (Oduya and Karlsson for starters) being the other factor.

They’d probably do well to resign him honestly. Worse comes to worse, you trade him.

Agreed. Always good to have assets but it depends on whether or not the Sens can bring someone in and how much of a rebuild the Sens are willing to do. I can see a deal occurring between Chicago and Ottawa centered around Ryan/Seabrook. Chicago has coveted Smith for some time, Anderson is from Chicago, and Crawford may be injured for some time.

A very unlikely scenario I know but Ottawa has to be open to trades like this if they want to move Ryan.

There's a lot to consider with that trade proposal. I think Seabrook has two more years on his deal than Ryan, and so does Murphy over Smith. Hartman and Ceci are both RFA's, and I am not sure if Crawford is coming back to the NHL due to injury. So the money makes sense for Chicago, as does finding a goalie. Ottawa at least has Condon. Chicago has nothing.

dennycrane wrote:What does Wideman get by next Monday? Brilliant PR move by him (or his agent) to have a public skate.

I doubt he gets traded. The injury being one factor, and then our uncertain future with a couple other d-men (Oduya and Karlsson for starters) being the other factor.

They’d probably do well to resign him honestly. Worse comes to worse, you trade him.

Agreed. Always good to have assets but it depends on whether or not the Sens can bring someone in and how much of a rebuild the Sens are willing to do. I can see a deal occurring between Chicago and Ottawa centered around Ryan/Seabrook. Chicago has coveted Smith for some time, Anderson is from Chicago, and Crawford may be injured for some time.

A very unlikely scenario I know but Ottawa has to be open to trades like this if they want to move Ryan.

There's a lot to consider with that trade proposal. I think Seabrook has two more years on his deal than Ryan, and so does Murphy over Smith. Hartman and Ceci are both RFA's, and I am not sure if Crawford is coming back to the NHL due to injury. So the money makes sense for Chicago, as does finding a goalie. Ottawa at least has Condon. Chicago has nothing.

Seabrook's contract goes until 23-24. It also sounds like Seabrook is declining, so I'm not sure if we want to exchange one problem for another. Seabrook's contract also comes with a massive signing bonus due each July and we know The Euge doesn't like those. His total salary the next couple of years is also extremely high ($9M then $7.5M). He also has a full NMC. He ain't coming here, although I like the thinking of your scenario. I also really don't see them trading Crawford for a seemingly diminishing Anderson.

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Agree totally with your statement. It's the type of thinking that Dorion needs to do. Buffalo has some interesting pieces. I've always been an O'Reilley fan, and think Scandella would be a good fit with Karlsson. But again, it comes back to moving dead weight for dead weight.