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Is narcotic pain medicine becoming a thing of the past?
Why are doctors across America phasing out the practice of prescribing effective pain medication?
Will big pharmaceutical companies ever truly understand what it's like to face the other side of the coin?
Lately there's been a musty scent in the air surrounding the use of prescribed narcotic pain medication. Many doctors appear to be running scared as the DEA scours through fields of medical records, inspecting prescribing pads like a mouse scavenges for food in a dimly lit cellar.
Should the day come when doctors recommend Ibuprofen to a feeble man who's been involved in a terrible car accident (breaking several bones / requiring extensive surgery), is this doctor at risk of malpractice when there are more effective options available that they choose not to pick, out of fear? Fear of what? Doing the right thing? No, I don't think this is the reason... Somewhere along the line, in the not too distant past, doctors were loosely prescribing narcotic pain medication as if it would never go out of style. Nowadays, the harsh penalty of potentially losing their license for writing any unknown number of opiate prescriptions over so many calendar days or some other form of strict criteria, has been enough to prevent many physicians from taking even subtle "risks" with patients who are expressing obvious signs of pain and discomfort.
The unfortunately unique problem with pain is that it's not a physical object and in order for others to detect it, they'd have to rely solely on the backbone of our body language using their intuition - something that's gone missing in western practice. If more doctors took the time and really got to know their patients front to back, then they will be their own best judge of deciding what the right thing to do is, regardless of what the DEA thinks about their decision or what their drug representative wants out of the deal. Sadly, until patients are put before profits, the foundation of America's healthcare system remains in jeopardy like an iceberg affected by global warming.
While I believe that the vast majority of human beings in their right mind would choose to do the right thing, we must all work together to become the change we wish to see within every aspect of our lives; and knowing that by doing so, it will shine light on those crossing our path that need it most.
In the meantime, some patients may have to find another way to manage their pain without putting their life or health at risk. Others are turning to natural alternatives such as kratom, cannabis, turmeric and/or implementing various lifestyle changes into their daily regime... But the key is to never give up hope.
What will you do?
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<span class="small ref_reply inline_block"><span id="refTitleReplyEA89B8"><strong>Re:</strong> Vintage Lady (# 1351)</span> <span id="refReplyEA89B8"><img src="/images/blank.gif" class="img arrow_down_12b inline_block" onclick="refReply('EA89B8','324674','653498');return false;" style="cursor:pointer;margin:0 0 0 5px" /></span></span><br/> <br/> They legally cannot refuse your medical records can they? What if you wanted another opinion? I'm not sure but that doesn't sound legal to me. They don't own the damn things-the records are yours right?Mon, 24 Dec 2018 17:57:09 GMThttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653507HOUSE Sayshttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653507
<span class="small ref_reply inline_block"><span id="refTitleReply6E2597"><strong>Re:</strong> Vintage Lady (# 1351)</span> <span id="refReply6E2597"><img src="/images/blank.gif" class="img arrow_down_12b inline_block" onclick="refReply('6E2597','324674','653498');return false;" style="cursor:pointer;margin:0 0 0 5px" /></span></span><br/> <br/> It IS a crock! And it's not just where you live, it's happening with all of us everywhere. I asked my Dr about <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Drugs/Soma/" target="_blank">Soma</a> about 2 year's ago now and she looked at me like I was asking for heroin! She actually told me that people take them just to feel high?!?... it would be laughable if I weren't in so much pain..it is indeed a terrible time these days for chronic pain patients!Mon, 24 Dec 2018 16:55:06 GMThttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653506Mare Sayshttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653506
<span class="small ref_reply inline_block"><span id="refTitleReplyAD8DFA"><strong>Re:</strong> Vintage Lady (# 1351)</span> <span id="refReplyAD8DFA"><img src="/images/blank.gif" class="img arrow_down_12b inline_block" onclick="refReply('AD8DFA','324674','653498');return false;" style="cursor:pointer;margin:0 0 0 5px" /></span></span><br/> <br/> I feel for you. I don&#8217;t know why they wouldn&#8217;t give you <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Drugs/Soma/" target="_blank">Soma</a> if you have muscle spasms. That&#8217;s what it is for! You said your provider won&#8217;t allow an MRI. Are you talking about your insurance company? If so, your Dr can order it. I&#8217;m so tired of insurance companies sticking their nose into what your physician perscribes. I&#8217;m having the same issues with the insurance company that is handling my work injury. I no longer have a disc at L3-L4 &amp; the 2 vertebrae just rub against each other or one slips right out. The insurance company is telling my doctor that I should be healed by now. Gee, I had no idea our bodies can grow back discs! Lol.... Now after walking with a cane for years, there is something going on with my neck. Good Luck &amp; keep fighting. Don&#8217;t let the insurance company bully you.Mon, 24 Dec 2018 15:50:00 GMThttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653499Vintage Lady Sayshttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653499
<span class="small ref_reply inline_block"><span id="refTitleReply67A335"><strong>Re:</strong> Mare (# 1317)</span> <span id="refReply67A335"><img src="/images/blank.gif" class="img arrow_down_12b inline_block" onclick="refReply('67A335','324674','651765');return false;" style="cursor:pointer;margin:0 0 0 5px" /></span></span><br/> <br/> The <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Drugs/Soma/" target="_blank">Soma</a> I had taken for years for acute insomnia and muscle spasms are a BIG NO-NO around where I live. I finally voluntarily dropped it, so the pharmacy would fill my pain meds. Now no pain meds either, except <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Drugs/Tylenol/" target="_blank">Tylenol</a> 3... I tried to play by their rules, but doesn't matter. Just try to bear it, but getting harder and harder every day. It doesn't matter until the doctors push back and stop lying that guidelines are law... why can't they be honest??? Why won't they help us. I asked my provider for complete new X-rays and MRIs to document and update my many ailments... they refused! What a crock!!Mon, 24 Dec 2018 12:33:54 GMThttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653498Vintage Lady Sayshttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653498
<span class="small ref_reply inline_block"><span id="refTitleReply450D20"><strong>Re:</strong> Valerie (# 1331)</span> <span id="refReply450D20"><img src="/images/blank.gif" class="img arrow_down_12b inline_block" onclick="refReply('450D20','324674','653233');return false;" style="cursor:pointer;margin:0 0 0 5px" /></span></span><br/> <br/> My doctor won't even talk to me about <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Drugs/Suboxone/" target="_blank">Suboxone</a> or <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Drugs/Subutex/" target="_blank">Subutex</a>. The pill heads around hear are taking them recreationally, being sold just like opioids. That's why this 'war on opioids' won't work... next they will be using heroin, then what will Big Brother do? That illegal drug has been around for years, and not once have I heard about a crackdown to eradicate it and blame the REAL ABUSERS, not legitimate pain patients who have been taking their prescriptions correctly and responsibly! I am a caregiver to my Mom, and without my pain meds (besides <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Drugs/Tylenol/" target="_blank">Tylenol</a> 3), it is getting very hard, physically, mentally and emotionally. For Shame...Mon, 24 Dec 2018 12:03:27 GMThttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653483Charlene Sayshttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653483
<span class="small ref_reply inline_block"><span id="refTitleReply7B5E00"><strong>Re:</strong> Margo (# 1344)</span> <span id="refReply7B5E00"><img src="/images/blank.gif" class="img arrow_down_12b inline_block" onclick="refReply('7B5E00','324674','653470');return false;" style="cursor:pointer;margin:0 0 0 5px" /></span></span><br/> <br/> Margo, I have sent some sites for reputable vendors for <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Drugs/Kratom/" target="_blank">kratom</a>. I have not seen my reply to you yet so keep a look out. Also a chris on this page asked me to..u can look and see what I wrote them for now thxSun, 23 Dec 2018 23:00:22 GMThttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653479Margo Sayshttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653479
<span class="small ref_reply inline_block"><span id="refTitleReplyE2CDBF"><strong>Re:</strong> Valerie (# 1302)</span> <span id="refReplyE2CDBF"><img src="/images/blank.gif" class="img arrow_down_12b inline_block" onclick="refReply('E2CDBF','324674','651695');return false;" style="cursor:pointer;margin:0 0 0 5px" /></span></span><br/> <br/> Thank you for your interest in our situation. Still trying to find a Dr who will prescribe the new med for prevention of <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Categories/Migraine-Tension-Headache/" target="_blank">migraine</a>!!! They won't even try it for my son. Don't know where to turn.Sun, 23 Dec 2018 19:16:29 GMThttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653477Margo Sayshttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653477
<span class="small ref_reply inline_block"><span id="refTitleReply41DC4A"><strong>Re:</strong> marin5 (# 1314)</span> <span id="refReply41DC4A"><img src="/images/blank.gif" class="img arrow_down_12b inline_block" onclick="refReply('41DC4A','324674','651750');return false;" style="cursor:pointer;margin:0 0 0 5px" /></span></span><br/> <br/> Thank you for your interest in our situation. Yes, I have been trying CBD capsules for the last month and find no relief for my son or myself. I am now going to get <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Drugs/Kratom/" target="_blank">kratom</a> and see if it works.Sun, 23 Dec 2018 19:03:25 GMThttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653476Margo Sayshttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653476
<span class="small ref_reply inline_block"><span id="refTitleReplyA0F5E1"><strong>Re:</strong> Kaydollasign (# 1327)</span> <span id="refReplyA0F5E1"><img src="/images/blank.gif" class="img arrow_down_12b inline_block" onclick="refReply('A0F5E1','324674','652347');return false;" style="cursor:pointer;margin:0 0 0 5px" /></span></span><br/> <br/> How dare you call these people weak!!!! you should be ashamed of yourself.Sun, 23 Dec 2018 18:53:52 GMThttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653473Charlene Sayshttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653473
<span class="small ref_reply inline_block"><span id="refTitleReply8AC51C"><strong>Re:</strong> Thomas (# 1343)</span> <span id="refReply8AC51C"><img src="/images/blank.gif" class="img arrow_down_12b inline_block" onclick="refReply('8AC51C','324674','653460');return false;" style="cursor:pointer;margin:0 0 0 5px" /></span></span><br/> <br/> Wow, beautiful, well said. I'm so excited to see how many people are starting to see our plant that has been given to us people are starting to realize it does not make people do violence. As I read this it sounded like my husband trying to preach someone who has no idea how much things have changed. I'm 58 and smoked pot throughout my life, but eventually stopped because of having children and such. U know I don't want the risk of being busted. But its nice to see others agree for legalization. My daughter who is 32 was so against it all her life has finally got the picture so that to me is somewhat huge..lol...so thank you for the great reading material. Merry Christmas to you.Sun, 23 Dec 2018 18:16:37 GMThttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653472Charlene Sayshttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653472
<span class="small ref_reply inline_block"><span id="refTitleReply28036B"><strong>Re:</strong> Margo (# 1344)</span> <span id="refReply28036B"><img src="/images/blank.gif" class="img arrow_down_12b inline_block" onclick="refReply('28036B','324674','653470');return false;" style="cursor:pointer;margin:0 0 0 5px" /></span></span><br/> <br/> Margo, you are asking for a few sites for <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Drugs/Kratom/" target="_blank">kratom</a>. I will list a few sites also on this page ( chris #1337) also asks me to. I have used these vendors many times. #1 Bookoo organics have kilos for $81 and that's alot. You can split deals for instance you might want to buy a red maeng da for evening. A green maeng da for day time. Also a white will give you energy. <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Drugs/Kratom/" target="_blank">Kratom</a> tastes really bad and have many ways to ingest it like a toss n wash if u can handle it. I buy mine in powder form and capsule myself with a capsule machine that they sell online. I have joined groups on Facebook and everyone seems more knowledgeable than me so u can join a get info on many things. Youtube will also guide you. <br/> <br/> I say this because of trial and error from what I have been through when I first started. If you have a lot of medicine in your system, at first you will find u will be using alot more at the beginning, and slowly u will find out how you're not running to your pill bottle as much. A second group is called leaf of life lounge I believe they are out of stock. But joining to the news letter will provide greater support and information to read. Third is called greenhouse botanics. They are also out of stock at the moment due to rebuilding the site and warehouse. You can still order through these 2 places I believe by joining the group. If u are interested in joining I can give lead u to 2 of the girls who are way knowledgeable about this than I am..who have helped me soo much. I say this because people who take <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Drugs/Kratom/" target="_blank">kratom</a> say "well I bought some and it didn't work?" <br/> <br/> Like I said, <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Drugs/Kratom/" target="_blank">kratom</a> is a plant so to have it fight against pharmaceutical meds it's a tough fight. So many people use this to either detox, or are just in pain from whatever. It helps with <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Categories/Anxiety/" target="_blank">anxiety</a>, <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Categories/Antidepressant/" target="_blank">depression</a>, mood lift, you name it. Why else would the government be trying to get a hold of this plant? Just like out marijuana plant..they are starting to notice it does have a lot of benefits.. just like 30ish years ago people who took lsd, mushrooms, pot. I found two doctors working with a professor who are 30+years in a new therapy for post traumatic stress disorder using micro dosing. I know it has nothing to do with this, but I got carried away for moment. <br/> <br/> So many people are starting to believe between the pharmaceutical companies and the government are only making things worse so we are turning to plants and natural resources. Just like way back in ancient history. Let me know if u need anything else. I have learned some interesting things. I guess maybe like they say Google can sometimes be too much info lolSun, 23 Dec 2018 18:03:21 GMThttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653470Margo Sayshttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653470
<span class="small ref_reply inline_block"><span id="refTitleReplyA78D45"><strong>Re:</strong> Charlene (# 1336)</span> <span id="refReplyA78D45"><img src="/images/blank.gif" class="img arrow_down_12b inline_block" onclick="refReply('A78D45','324674','653406');return false;" style="cursor:pointer;margin:0 0 0 5px" /></span></span><br/> <br/> Please let me know the sites to visit for <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Drugs/Kratom/" target="_blank">kratom</a>. I know that my Dr is going to cut me down againSun, 23 Dec 2018 16:49:46 GMThttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653460Thomas Sayshttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653460
After reading your comment, I felt compelled to respond! I totally agree that the FDA, DEA, and Big Gov&#8217;t in general have done a horrible job dealing with illicit drugs and NOW pharmaceutical drugs...via its failed attempt of &#8220;The War on Drugs&#8221;! And it&#8217;s true, most of the focus is on profits, politics, and morality policing. When facing a National Epidemic, as the Opiod Abuse and Overdose is, instead of taking a true, patient focused attempt to solve the problem, they resort to &#8220;herd mentality&#8221; actions that end of hurting the patients that have been on such narcotics for many years and never used them illicitly, overtake them, or sell them! <br/> <br/> Most of the patients, like me, that have been on these drugs, long term, realize that they will NEVER take all (and sometimes most) the pain away. You have to realize this or you will build such a high tolerance, NOTHING will alleviate the pain! And, years ago, I don&#8217;t think a lot of Drs had a clue (or didn&#8217;t want to admit) this fact, because when I started on them I just told my Dr. what I was experiencing, while he kept using my dosage. I was on SO much that when I look back, I&#8217;m lucky to be alive! Even though I found out later that I am what they consider a &#8220;high-metabolizer. He finally started weaning me down to a manageable dosage! <br/> <br/> For perspective, I am a Permanently Disabled Vet, surviving on <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Drugs/OxyContin/" target="_blank">OxyContin</a> (legally prescribed by same Dr.) for 15 yrs. Last year I spoke to my Dr. of 20 yrs about trying to use medicinal marijuana and get off <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Drugs/OxyContin/" target="_blank">OxyContin</a> when it becomes available to qualified patients. To my surprise he highly advocated this and told me Medical Cannabis was a much better option, if it helps me personally, than OC, because if has LONG been known by the medical community to be a very effective drug for many conditions and has MUCH lower side effects than OC, as well as many other narcotics, aka &#8220;opioids&#8221;! <br/> <br/> I am a strong advocate for the use of Cannabis medically, after reading a TON of information about recent hybrids, derivatives, and effectiveness of &#8220;modern&#8221; cannabis through new advanced methods of cultivation. These new advancements make it possible to cross-breed the strains to produce plants that can be used to specifically aide specific diseases, both physical and mental. <br/> <br/> I was one of the naive, I suppose, that just believed the propaganda being fed to us by Big Gov&#8217;t that cannabis was a demonic, taboo drug that would eventually leave you brain dead and possibly lead a person to violent, abusive behavior! Well, if you personally do your due diligence and check the recent facts out for yourself, you will see it is actually the opposite! How many persons have ODed on narcotics? 10s of thousands, I&#8217;m sure! How many have died from cannabis overdose? ZERO! I&#8217;m finding out there are more medicinal benefits from cannabis, than any other DRUG or herb, than I would have ever expected! We&#8217;ve been lied to for a century, for the sake of Big Pharma &amp; Big Business PROFITS! Check it out yourself, especially if you are being forced off of your pain medication, without consent! <br/> <br/> It may not work for everyone, I understand, but I&#8217;m willing to bet it will help a LOT of patients with no where else to turn! If your state has not legalized Medical use of Cannabis yet, be an advocate for its legalization! It may well be a medicine that will help you with your individual malady.... <br/> <br/> I hope each of you that there struggling with severely painful conditions will find Hope this Christmas Season and find a way to survive your ailments soon, or in the near future! All we can do is be our own advocates, advocates for each other, and stay informed about the TRUTH! You are not ALONE!Sun, 23 Dec 2018 00:03:13 GMThttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653450chris Sayshttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653450
<span class="small ref_reply inline_block"><span id="refTitleReply896B55"><strong>Re:</strong> chris (# 1337)</span> <span id="refReply896B55"><img src="/images/blank.gif" class="img arrow_down_12b inline_block" onclick="refReply('896B55','324674','653438');return false;" style="cursor:pointer;margin:0 0 0 5px" /></span></span><br/> <br/> Sorry, I forgot to say <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Drugs/Kratom/" target="_blank">Kratom</a> lol. You were probably wondering what I was asking for info on.Sat, 22 Dec 2018 22:11:10 GMThttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653448Charlene Sayshttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653448
<span class="small ref_reply inline_block"><span id="refTitleReplyA834C0"><strong>Re:</strong> chris (# 1337)</span> <span id="refReplyA834C0"><img src="/images/blank.gif" class="img arrow_down_12b inline_block" onclick="refReply('A834C0','324674','653438');return false;" style="cursor:pointer;margin:0 0 0 5px" /></span></span><br/> <br/> Hi Chris, I am in different <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Drugs/Kratom/" target="_blank">kratom</a> groups and these people have become very good friends and a great group of people. So #1, BooKoo organics on the site I looked up prices for a kilo of green maeng da $81. I believe. It's a tad steep; not much at all because you get a lot.. Probably a sample or 2.. Not to mention so far this guy is very honest .. 2nd group is greenhouse botanics, they are still under construction but join groups for info and information. 3rd leaf of life lounge. Now they are completely out of stock. But look at the site join the newsletter for information. I'm saying this because I don't know if you know much about <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Drugs/Kratom/" target="_blank">kratom</a>. If you don't, there's trials and errors that could be prevented. Also buy in powder form and capsule yourself could save you a lot of money. The taste of <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Drugs/Kratom/" target="_blank">kratom</a> is awful. Let me know if u need me or any help reaching out to these people. {edited for policy reasons}Sat, 22 Dec 2018 16:18:26 GMThttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653447John Kramer Sayshttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653447
<span class="small ref_reply inline_block"><span id="refTitleReply8B447F"><strong>Re:</strong> Sabrina (# 1333)</span> <span id="refReply8B447F"><img src="/images/blank.gif" class="img arrow_down_12b inline_block" onclick="refReply('8B447F','324674','653363');return false;" style="cursor:pointer;margin:0 0 0 5px" /></span></span><br/> <br/> Hang tough Sabrina! The more I read about stories such as yours, the more it seems my christian duty to serve as a voice for the people. I have no problem meeting face to face with the appropriate bureaucrats in Washington! Perhaps this an appropriate time to get a consensus from those folks contributing to this website! I feel a bit like Moses when he said: "FREE ME PEOPLE!"Sat, 22 Dec 2018 16:12:13 GMThttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653445LauraG Sayshttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653445
<span class="small ref_reply inline_block"><span id="refTitleReplyDA9000"><strong>Re:</strong> Valerie (# 1318)</span> <span id="refReplyDA9000"><img src="/images/blank.gif" class="img arrow_down_12b inline_block" onclick="refReply('DA9000','324674','651823');return false;" style="cursor:pointer;margin:0 0 0 5px" /></span></span><br/> <br/> I request that in the very begining of your reply that you show the state that you from. I feel like I am just responding to a CLOUD. New England is so up and down with <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Categories/Pain-Relief/" target="_blank">pain management</a> compared to the states in the South and Midwest. What is Sativex? And, what are you experiencing since you have started taking it?Sat, 22 Dec 2018 15:27:10 GMThttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653442Roro Sayshttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653442
chris (# 1336) -- <br/> <br/> You may want to do a <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Drugs/Kratom/" target="_blank">kratom</a> for pain search b4 you order any. I have done some research &amp; there a several options available ..... i have not tried it yet put i need to ... My meds will be down to about 30% of what i was receiving a year ago ... I was a little over 300 mg a day &amp; I will be down to 90 mg at my next appt .... &amp; ..... I am hopeful that they will stop dropping as that is the upper end of bogus cdc max dose .... it is not a mandatory limit but the Drs don't want to document why they are scripting over that amount .... any way like I said I hope they stop reducing but I don't think they will he kinda hinted the cut will continue .... what ever happened to "do no harm" ..... my ortho told me i should not be able to walk in 05/06 &amp; it appears this place wants to make it a realitySat, 22 Dec 2018 09:37:40 GMThttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653438chris Sayshttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653438
<span class="small ref_reply inline_block"><span id="refTitleReplyADCD43"><strong>Re:</strong> Charlene (# 1336)</span> <span id="refReplyADCD43"><img src="/images/blank.gif" class="img arrow_down_12b inline_block" onclick="refReply('ADCD43','324674','653406');return false;" style="cursor:pointer;margin:0 0 0 5px" /></span></span><br/> <br/> Is there anyway you could send that to me please? I decided to give up on going to doctors. I am happy to say that I have had nothing but a few <a href="https://www.medschat.com/Drugs/Aspirin/" target="_blank">aspirin</a> a day for a couple months. I'm not saying that I'm pain free but I'm dealing with it. I just got so tired of the s*** that they're putting us through. Good luck to everyone on here and I will still sign partitions when they come up. Take careSat, 22 Dec 2018 08:23:42 GMThttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653406Charlene Sayshttps://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Big-Pharmas-Lockdown-On-Legitimate-Chronic-Pain-Patients-324674_s2.htm?utm_source=forums_posts&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS#r_653406
<span class="small ref_reply inline_block"><span id="refTitleReply35270F"><strong>Re:</strong> Sabrina (# 1333)</span> <span id="refReply35270F"><img src="/images/blank.gif" class="img arrow_down_12b inline_block" onclick="refReply('35270F','324674','653363');return false;" style="cursor:pointer;margin:0 0 0 5px" /></span></span><br/> <br/> Hi, you have asked me to give you some info on how to buy ktatom online from a reputable vendor . I will send you information very soon. Some people are not sure or believe that this will work. I will be sending you proof of how it will work with websitesFri, 21 Dec 2018 14:19:17 GMT