Since Megaupload is down I've uploaded the SFS again with a new host thanks to Russoodle. This SFS is smaller by almost 100MB, but no features are missing. I just was able to strip QT further.

A few other minor changes:
Enabled root logins by default
Shutdown using KDM should work by default. Any other login method will still have to use a separate shutdown manager.
Fixed the Dolphin menu entry so there isn't an error when starting it from the menu.
New Size: 225MB
SFS Download!
MD5sum: de23f44e93f734fa84eb2a98745c6cac
Extra programs

Quote:

KDE is an international free software community producing an integrated set of cross-platform applications designed to run on Linux, FreeBSD, Microsoft Windows, Solaris and Mac OS X systems. It is best known for its Plasma Desktop, a desktop environment provided as the default working environment on many Linux distributions, such as Kubuntu, Pardus and openSUSE.

The goal of the community is to provide basic desktop functions and applications for daily needs as well as tools and documentation for developers to write stand-alone applications for the system. In this regard, the KDE project serves as an umbrella project for many standalone applications and smaller projects that are based on KDE technology. These include Calligra Suite, digiKam, Rekonq, K3b and many others.

KDE software is based on the Qt framework. The original GPL version of this toolkit only existed for the X11 platform, but with the release of Qt 4, LGPL versions are available for all platforms. This allows KDE software based on Qt 4 to also be distributed to Microsoft Windows and Mac OS X.

So the upshot is this SFS is the KDE base you need to run KDE applications. It also includes the KDE desktop (which I am not really fond of, so haven't tested much). All headers are included again, which means you can add the devx sfs and start compiling KDE4 stuff.

I'm more interested in the software that relies on KDE4, particularly Kdenlive, as some may know. I haven't included Kdenlive in this SFS, but I'll add links to to a few programs including Kdenlive that I have compiled with this SFS later on.
If you want to try the KDE4 desktop, you can:

a) Change to it with the window manager (Desktop->desktop settings->WM switcher)

b) Just run it on top of you current window manager by typing "startkde" into a console (Probably good if you just want to have a quick peek at what it's like)

c) Log in through kdm. This is done by exiting X and then typing in "kdm" into the prompt. This will allow KDE to run the way it was designed to, but it requires you to add a non root user. I had trouble with this because I'm not familiar with non root user procedures (having been a puppian all my Linux life) .

Fixed Issues
Rxvt can now be used while in the KDE desktop.
Log out now works when starting KDE without kdm. It will just take you to prompt or your original desktop depending on how you started KDE.
Now phonon has a backend so Juk works and there is KDE notification sounds.

Known Issues
There's no shutdown or restart option, or they don't work without starting with kdm. See fix below.
Starting a KDE program without starting the desktop first will give you 2 errors about there being no .kde folder, but then the program will create the folder and continue.
Most of Puppy's menu entries in the KDE menu are still in "Lost and Found" due to different format issues

Tips

If you like Dolphin (the KDE file manager) you can replace rox with it by editing /usr/local/bin/rox and replacing "/usr/local/apps/ROX-Filer/AppRun" with "dolphin". Of course this means now when you type "rox" Dolphin will pop up instead.

(I was able to startup dolphin instead of rox in pmount last SFS by just replacing instances of "rox -d" with "dolphin", but pmount seems to have changed a little and now I'm not sure if it will still work).

Instead of scrolling through lost and found looking for pup apps, Master_wrong mentioned using Menu->Applications->Utilities->PupApps launcher, which is easier

Roadkill13 suggested symlinking the contents of /root/Startup to /root/.kde/Autostart. This gets the usual stuff which starts in Puppy to start in KDE4 too

btw shutdown using the kde will put you back into terminal, so its still be better to use shutdown pet.
the only difference is that now it would be possible boot into kde automatically then enter name and password...

Ahh you're awesome Master_wrong, I've been puzzling over the root login for awhile, beats me why I didn't think of googling it all this while. Nice work

Yeah, it's a pity about the shutdown not really working. Maybe it's just a config file that needs to be tweaked?

Remastering, yeah, I thought about that, but it doesn't really seem practical. I prefer SFSs that can be loaded on to the official Puppy so people can customize one Pup, otherwise people have to keep on rebooting into different Puppies to get different things done. If there's a demand though, I don't mind giving a KDE4 puppy ago. I even have name for it:

KOG -The KDE dog, because it's too slow and old to be a puppy

Sorry, that was meant to be a joke, hope that's not offensive to anyone that likes KDE4, cause I do like it myself. And the logo would have the "O" in the shape of a cog with the puppy logo in the middle

Back to topic...

Bluetooth, hmmm, not sure how to get started with that if I were to look into it. I think I have a dongle somewhere a could test with, but as I'm not even sure how to get bluetooth in regular Puppy, I don't know if I'd be the one to bring KDE bluetooth to Puppy :\

"...
Yeah, it's a pity about the shutdown not really working. Maybe it's just a config file that needs to be tweaked?
..."
i think its about shutdown script from kde we should edit that or we can create boot up kde script on puppy such as :
exit from puppy desktop ----> i dont know the command
kde
shutdown

so after exit kde then the computer will shutdown.

about bluetooth... I have created blueman for 5.2, however i think the major overhaul into 528 makes the 5.2 pet useless. i will create again from source... i also will try to create the kbluetooth is possible.

yes i know puppy was meant to be small, but more option is a good thing imho.
kde-puplet... yeah that would be great if you can boot puppy and get kde desktop automatically isnt ?
i assume that the size of iso would be around 500mb then ?
or 140mb normal puppy, and 350mb sfs but with just 1 click, can change destop into kde ?_________________Cluster-Pup v.2-Puppy Beowulf Cluster
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=499199#499199

Been fiddling with the shutdown issue. In the /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc file there is also the option to set the shutdown and reboot command. The only problem is the usual Puppy shutdown and restart commands seem to be broken in KDE4 as the scripts rely on having the window manager's name recorded in /etc/windowmanager, and I can't figure out what the windowmanager is called in KDE4. It seems it should be kwin, but kwin seems to only control the taskbar and window frames.

This also means the Pupshutdown tweak won't work :\

@puppyiso

Unfortunately, that's my only link :\ If Megaupload is still causing trouble next morning, I'll start a new upload, it will take awhile though, so sorry about that.

Edit: Good news, Megaupload seems to be running again. Still, I know it's not very reliable and annoying with the waiting time. Next time I'll try and upload somewhere else as well.

K3b is easily installed from Ubuntu .deb.
The required libs are on the system already, just in the wrong place.

Haven't got Konqueror addons working yet.

Got a bit carried away and did a custom background. It translates OK to widescreen.
Now my workmates don't hang it on me when they see me boot up and a comical puppy appears.
I used Grub to hide it, and the background gives me more credibility.
Yes, I'm a traitor, I know.

Great news Master_wrong, I think I've figured out the shutdown problem. As suspected, the solution lies in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc.

By uncommenting

Code:

HaltCmd=

and

Code:

RebootCmd=

and setting their values to /sbin/poweroff and /sbin/reboot respectively, this seems to sort out the shutdown issue.

I was initially looking there, but I didn't realize they required the whole path to work out. I just need to do a bit more testing to see if it's dependent on any of the other tweaks I tried before this one, but I doubt it.

@Adagio

That's good to know. I used to use K3B all the time, but stopped using it due to HAL issues. Which Ubuntu version did you take it from?

Thanks for the wallpaper, I'm not sure if KDE4 can really be considered slim, but it's the the thought that counts

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