originally posted by: MRinder
I spent the last 20 mins trying to think of how the world is more chaotic now that Trump is President than it has been for the last 20 years. Can
someone tell me how the world is worse than it was 2, 3, 5, or 10 yrs ago?

Just because the former NATO(!!!) head says something stupid, it´s the opinion of 500 millions of europeans?
Ask the average people, they will tell you the reality. Except in the east-european rightwinger and EU-money leeches states. Nobody sane wants to
dance to the US tunes anymore, just for US profits, US interests, US wars and for "U"S made refugee crises, which hit other continents, like Europe.
We all could live good without that!

The world doesn´t need a "world-police" that behaves like their cops at home, shoot first, then MAYBE ask later....

Nobody in the sane parts of Europe(the more western, the more sane) complains about less trigger happy cowboys that interfere everywhere they have
nothing to search and say.

Except some NATO heads, warmongerers, rightwingers(how silly is that, european "nationalists" FOR the "U"SA) and other typical US sycophants.

Rogue states stay rogue states, even if they try to disguise as the good guys and act as if the whole world couldn´t thrive and survive without
them!

C'mon now, not everybody is losing their minds. I somehow doubt this guy speaks for however millions of Europeans there are now...last count was
somewhere in the neighborhood of 500 million, I think...

Personally, I'd just as soon see the end of our roll as world policeman.

I thought I might add a slightly different perspective from the Asia Pacific region. Since the building of artificial islands in the South China Sea,
Australia is now in range of Chinese long range bombers. China wants our mineral resources, and our agricultural products. Chinese investors are
buying up our real estate and they are infiltrating our industries, and our educational institutions. Australia is teaming with Chinese spies.
Australia is not capable of defending itself from a force as large as china, we have only 25 million people in an area about the same size as
continental US. Australia has always assumed that we are safe down here because our big buddies in the USA would come and protect us under the ANZUS
treaty. Now, with the political climate that has come about with Trump, we are not so sure anymore. China is muscling in on us even more now. Question
is, if push came to shove and china made a move on us, would the US have our back? We're not so sure anymore and its frankly terrifying.

Look I don't like Trump as a person, I think he's a pig, but we've had FAR FAR FAR worst Presidents.

All of this pearl-clutching and virtue-signalling over "TRUMP SAID" or "THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING" is paramount hypocrisy and hysteria. What have US law
enforcement/intel factions been doing for DECADES, even before I was even born?

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