Yes, the U.S.A. doesn't really top the list. But it still ranks significantly higher than Mexico.

Interesting data. When you indicate Safety as the primary value you care about....Mexico has the biggest movement down that chart over all countries included. ie. Mexico is the least safe country on their scale.

Mexico Key Findings

Personal security is a core element for the well-being of individuals, and largely reflects the risks of people being physically assaulted or falling victim to other types of crime. Across the OECD, victimisation rates for conventional crime (theft, robbery, assault) have declined in the new millennium. In Mexico, 15% of people reported falling victim to assault over the previous 12 months, much higher than the OECD average of 4% and the highest rate in the OECD. 34% of people feel unsafe on the street after dark, higher than the OECD average of 26%.

The homicide rate (the number of murders per 100,000 inhabitants) is a more reliable measure of a countryís safety level because, unlike other crimes, murders are usually always reported to the police. According to the latest OECD data, Mexicoís homicide rate has increased from 7 in 2002 to 11.6, much higher than the OECD average and the highest in the OECD.

United States Key Findings

Personal security is a core element for the well-being of individuals, and largely reflects the risks of people being physically assaulted or falling victim to other types of crime. Across the OECD, victimisation rates for conventional crime (theft, robbery, assault) have declined in the new millennium. In the United States, 2% of people reported falling victim to assault over the previous 12 months, lower than the OECD average of 4%. 19% of people feel unsafe on the street after dark, also lower than the OECD average of 26%.

The homicide rate (the number of murders per 100,000 inhabitants) is a more reliable measure of a countryís safety level because, unlike other crimes, murders are usually always reported to the police. According to the latest OECD data, the United Statesí homicide rate is 5.2, higher than the OECD average and one of the highest in the OECD.

I love the way baja blames all of Mexico's problems on the US. If you ask him why all the illegal immigrants from the great and prosperous nation of Mexico continue to flood across the border into the ugly arm pit of the US he will claim--with a straight face--that it's due to the US ag. industry.

Forget about NAFTA and how Mexico has screwed the US with that deal, nope, baja won't recognize that hypocrisy. He is too amped up on what is wrong with the US, instead of what is wrong with Mexico.

I love the way baja blames all of Mexico's problems on the US. If you ask him why all the illegal immigrants from the great and prosperous nation of Mexico continue to flood across the border into the ugly arm pit of the US he will claim--with a straight face--that it's due to the US ag. industry.

Forget about NAFTA and how Mexico has screwed the US with that deal, nope, baja won't recognize that hypocrisy. He is too amped up on what is wrong with the US, instead of what is wrong with Mexico.

I don't know what you people think you're doing but it isn't helping. The US is the suckzorz and we need to get the women and children, particularly of these poor, misguided and exploited souls who have illegally been lured by the American seductress to break the law and crossed the border, out as soon as possible. They need to get out first. Help them. Please. America is luring these people into overcrowded and overheated trucks; tempting them such that they risk their lives and the lives of their families to cross the border to be exploited. I implore you, as a moral imperative help these people get back home. Call ICE, they will make sure to escort them to the border so they may once again breathe the free air in the safety of Madre Mexico. Oh, and take the homeless too. They need help. It ain't safe on these city streets. Madre Mexico will provide for them.

Some guys left a bar, found him sleeping in a park, beat him up, set him on fire and pissed on him.

that is too bad and unfortunate. the good news is the local hospital provided for his injuries at no cost to him and the local authorities are now involved to bring those involved to justice. No one here is claiming the US is perfect, and life in a "free" society often shows its darker side.

that is too bad and unfortunate. the good news is the local hospital provided for his injuries at no cost to him and the local authorities are now involved to bring those involved to justice. No one here is claiming the US is perfect, and life in a "free" society often shows its darker side.

Actually not really, the cops let those guys go, no charges filed... "Lack of evidence".

Dean, ended up dying 2 months later due to a staph infection due to complications from his injuries and lack of post/follow up care.

Forget Mexico. If you haven't been to Costa Rica yet do yourself a favor. There is some petty theft going on in Jan Jose but no drug war going on like Mexico.

You can enjoy both beaches Carribean and Pacific in the same trip! They are just a quick cheep flight away. Costa Rica is small but the majority of it is public lands! Amazing wildlife, lovely people, abundant fishing (they haven't over fished it like baja), hot springs that will blow you away (See Tobacon). I could go on and on. Heck Costa Rica doesn't even have an army.

Forget the war zone in Mexico. Those son of a b****es will knock you over the head for 10 bucks. The little thieves have been doing that for decades. If it's not the thieves that get you the damn police will jack you!

Years ago I had some friends that took a trip down south of Cabo. was going to go but had to work. They slept on the beach. Awoke to find themselves hauled away to jail. The families had to 'buy' their freedom. When they asked where their cars weree... the tricked out 4x4 blazer and 60's convertible mustang mysteriously vanished. The authorities denied ever towing away those two vehicles... they just admitted to having the junkers in the group. The blazer was later tracked down driven by a mexican cop around in a nearby ****ty little town. The California plates still attached.

I love the way baja blames all of Mexico's problems on the US. If you ask him why all the illegal immigrants from the great and prosperous nation of Mexico continue to flood across the border into the ugly arm pit of the US he will claim--with a straight face--that it's due to the US ag. industry.

Forget about NAFTA and how Mexico has screwed the US with that deal, nope, baja won't recognize that hypocrisy. He is too amped up on what is wrong with the US, instead of what is wrong with Mexico.

You guys crack me up with your knee jerk reactions jumping to protect who knows what.

Fact; The market for illegal drugs in in the prosperous United States - depute that

Fact; Assault weapons used by drug gangs used to kill one another plus some collateral damage are manufactured in the USA and are illegal in Mexico - dispute that

I never blamed all Mexico Problems on the USA. Mexico has severe systemic problems but they are moving in the right direction. That is my position. The first requirement for a discussion is to understand your opponents position. I have stated mine more that once but you continue to misrepresent my position.

You guys crack me up with your knee jerk reactions jumping to protect who knows what.

Fact; The market for illegal drugs in in the prosperous United States - depute that

Fact; Assault weapons used by drug gangs used to kill one another plus some collateral damage are manufactured in the USA and are illegal in Mexico - dispute that

I never blamed all Mexico Problems on the USA. Mexico has severe systemic problems but they are moving in the right direction. That is my position. The first requirement for a discussion is to understand your opponents position. I have stated mine more that once but you continue to misrepresent my position.

Baja,

Suburban Americans generally don't seem to be able to think beyond what they're told to think.

Another thing that cracks me up is there guys posting on this thread that (without knowing anything about me) calling me a coward yet they are afraid to come to Mexico because of a drug war going on in a few isolated areas.

It's like shunning the USA because they had a bad experience in South Central LA.

You guys crack me up with your knee jerk reactions jumping to protect who knows what.

Fact; The market for illegal drugs in in the prosperous United States - depute that

Fact; Assault weapons used by drug gangs used to kill one another plus some collateral damage are manufactured in the USA and are illegal in Mexico - dispute that

I never blamed all Mexico Problems on the USA. Mexico has severe systemic problems but they are moving in the right direction. That is my position. The first requirement for a discussion is to understand your opponents position. I have stated mine more that once but you continue to misrepresent my position.

You are the one who misrepresents yourself.

FACT: there are still thousands and thousands of illegals crossing the border from Mexico into the US for a better life for themselves and their families. Until you dispute this fact, the rest of your social agenda is gibberish IMHO.