Launch Code:Almost the entire national education system is bat sh*t crazy when it comes to anything regarding a firearm. They should focus their Zero Tolerance on kid touching.

Terrific point. Why, where I went to high school, the band teacher got caught touching one of his male student's flesh flutes. The first time it happened, they let him off with a warning. So then he gets caught again, and the school was like "okay, here's a slap on the wrist." It wasn't until the third time that the school even suspended him without pay.

Why aren't our schools as tough on teachers who touch students as they are on teachers who pack heat?1

Yeah, the teacher farked up, fire her. But to think that a sixteen-year-old doesn't know how or why to make her naughty parts cause an endorphin release in the brain is just pants-on-head stupid. The whole concept of prosecuting actions like these in a criminal court, where consent was given, seems pretty asinine. Hell, I had a sociology prof in college that conducted on surveys every year with the incoming freshman class. According to his data, the average age a student became sexually active in 1999 was 14.

Still never understood the idea of teachers in particular sleeping with students. Granted, I work with elementary students, thus there are several years of difference in development, but I spend the majority of my work day with students, isolated from other adults. After hearing about terrible music, shows, books, and on plus dramas over insignificant events and almost nothing in the way of interesting hobbies and experiences, I have to reaffirm my being an adult. Beer, scotch, cigars, vulgarity, stories, interests, actual music, a little nostalgia, and so forth are needed to not descend into childish madness. Other than the lack of attraction and abuse of authority aspects, simply getting away from children, and sixteen year olds are still children, is necessary for teachers.

gameshowhost:Wait. The dad caught them in a public park? WTF was *he* doing there?

Probably the same way I figured out my stepdaughter was sneaking out to party. By paying attention to the farking obvious. Teens think they are the smartest and sneakiest person to have ever existed, but they are usually too naive to actually pull sneakiness off well. It was pretty farking obvious that something was going on when she spent an hour in the bathroom working on her makeup before "going to bed".

OgreMagi:gameshowhost: Wait. The dad caught them in a public park? WTF was *he* doing there?

Probably the same way I figured out my stepdaughter was sneaking out to party. By paying attention to the farking obvious. Teens think they are the smartest and sneakiest person to have ever existed, but they are usually too naive to actually pull sneakiness off well. It was pretty farking obvious that something was going on when she spent an hour in the bathroom working on her makeup before "going to bed".

Vangor:Still never understood the idea of teachers in particular sleeping with students. Granted, I work with elementary students, thus there are several years of difference in development, but I spend the majority of my work day with students, isolated from other adults. After hearing about terrible music, shows, books, and on plus dramas over insignificant events and almost nothing in the way of interesting hobbies and experiences, I have to reaffirm my being an adult. Beer, scotch, cigars, vulgarity, stories, interests, actual music, a little nostalgia, and so forth are needed to not descend into childish madness. Other than the lack of attraction and abuse of authority aspects, simply getting away from children, and sixteen year olds are still children, is necessary for teachers.

I bet you're one of those weirdos who only likes to have sex with people with whom you're emotionally close to, and share mutual interests and similar mindsets with. Perv.

I, on the other hand, have a much more normal sex drive: I desire to have sex with women who I think are hot. Most girls experience adolescent physical development before 16, thus 16yo girls can sometimes be hot, and thus I occasionally desire to have sex with them. If there were a taboo element to our having sex together (older/younger; teacher/student, illegality, etc), I imagine that could make it even more hot. If the other party also finds the idea hot...well then that's a recipe to go create some awesome memories together, isn't it? Not awesome enough to go to jail or ruin a career for, (although the propensity of teacher-student sex would suggest it must have seemed worth the risk at the time), but I understand how people can make that mistake.

So, in short: Why do they do it? Because sex. Nothing more to 'understand' than that.

Maybe if the reporter didn't ask loaded questions they'd get a response.

'To the parents, "innocent until proven guilty." To you: fark you, get out of my face NOW.'

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: When it's a sex crime (and especially when kids are involved), the accused is automatically guilty, even if they're proven innocent in court. I've seen several people have their businesses, careers, families, and lives completely destroyed just from the accusation alone, even after proving their innocence in court.

This.

I find this to be a telling snippet from the article:She didn't have anything to say until she was cornered several blocks away."Just leave me alone," said Garcia.

The media chased her down, literally sprinting after her, until they had her cornered.

They should be publicly flogged. Seriously. Tie them to a pole and teach them manners. After they're tried and found guilty of whatever kind of "harassment" charge applies, of course.

Seriously??? You're pissed off at the media after a teacher bangs a student? Wow, we are really in trouble as a society. What if that was your kid? That's right, you don't have kids. You've never made it that far in life.

Big_Doofus:Seriously??? You're pissed off at the media after a teacher bangs a student? Wow, we are really in trouble as a society. What if that was your kid? That's right, you don't have kids. You've never made it that far in life.

Big_Doofus:The One True TheDavid: Kyosuke: "Is there anything you want to say to the parents who trusted you?"

Maybe if the reporter didn't ask loaded questions they'd get a response.

'To the parents, "innocent until proven guilty." To you: fark you, get out of my face NOW.'

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: When it's a sex crime (and especially when kids are involved), the accused is automatically guilty, even if they're proven innocent in court. I've seen several people have their businesses, careers, families, and lives completely destroyed just from the accusation alone, even after proving their innocence in court.

This.

I find this to be a telling snippet from the article:She didn't have anything to say until she was cornered several blocks away."Just leave me alone," said Garcia.

The media chased her down, literally sprinting after her, until they had her cornered.

They should be publicly flogged. Seriously. Tie them to a pole and teach them manners. After they're tried and found guilty of whatever kind of "harassment" charge applies, of course.

Seriously??? You're pissed off at the media after a teacher bangs a student? Wow, we are really in trouble as a society. What if that was your kid? That's right, you don't have kids. You've never made it that far in life.

She's still innocent until proven guilty. Whether she's accused of a sex crime or embezzlement or just being in the wrong Facebook post at the wrong time, until a judge and jury stand up and say that she's guilty, she's not. A question like "Do you have anything to say to the parents who trusted you?" is begging for her to violate her right against self-incrimination. The only court it would be admissible in would be the one of public opinion, since any judge worth his or her salt would throw it out based on the question alone if it were used as evidence. Then there's the whole paparazzi-esque chasing her down thing.

If she's acquitted and found innocent, these dumbasses have just earned themselves a few days in court, courtesy of a civil suit. Reporters are supposed to report facts, not generate bullshiat in any way or form.

Nah you see it's ok if two 16 year olds or two minors in general get it on despite both of them not knowing what they're getting into, but it's absolute horror and "think of the children" when one of the parties involved is an adult and knows what they're getting into.

/only partly serious

Do you not understand the person-of-authority thing? It's like sexual harassment in the workplace. Their doesn't have to be an overt quid-pro-quo. Merely the fact that one person is in a position of authority over another makes it wrong. Except in schools, it's even more clear cut, because the adult actually has a legal duty (in loco parentis) to look out for the welfare of the child.

Wow...you sound smart but your incorrect use of "their" (not there) really takes the bite out of your fight!

At what age is someone responsible for their own actions? I mean, at 16 you can drive a multi-ton death machine and be held responsible if you break the law, so why aren't you responsible at 16 for sex?

FrancoFile:Do you not understand the person-of-authority thing? It's like sexual harassment in the workplace. Their doesn't have to be an overt quid-pro-quo. Merely the fact that one person is in a position of authority over another makes it wrong.

From TFA:

Police said her daughter was not even in Garcia's classroom at Hastings High School.

So, no conflict of intest.

Also 16 is legal in most states. It's 17 in Texas, so she wasn't that far off.

gerbilpox:FrancoFile: Do you not understand the person-of-authority thing? It's like sexual harassment in the workplace. Their doesn't have to be an overt quid-pro-quo. Merely the fact that one person is in a position of authority over another makes it wrong.

From TFA:

Police said her daughter was not even in Garcia's classroom at Hastings High School.

So, no conflict of intest.

Also 16 is legal in most states. It's 17 in Texas, so she wasn't that far off.

/Not that I looked up the law while I was there, or anything

Have to disagree. If you're goofing off in the hallway when you should be in class, any teacher can discipline you. If there's an emergency (tornado warning, bomb scare, fire) then the entire staff is responsible for the entire student body.

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: When it's a sex crime (and especially when kids are involved), the accused is automatically guilty, even if they're proven innocent in court. I've seen several people have their businesses, careers, families, and lives completely destroyed just from the accusation alone, even after proving their innocence in court.

The One True TheDavid

: This.

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion:I find this to be a telling snippet from the article: She didn't have anything to say until she was cornered several blocks away.

"Just leave me alone," said Garcia.

The media chased her down, literally sprinting after her, until they had her cornered.

The One True TheDavid: They should be publicly flogged. Seriously. Tie them to a pole and teach them manners. After they're tried and found guilty of whatever kind of "harassment" charge applies, of course.

Big Doofus: Seriously??? You're pissed off at the media after a teacher bangs a student? Wow, we are really in trouble as a society. What if that was your kid? That's right, you don't have kids. You've never made it that far in life.

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. Do you even understand the concept? It's not like they were caught live on TV: all we have is an unsubstantiated, unproven charge. The case hasn't even gone to trial yet.

What if it was YOU? Suppose somebody said "I saw Big Doofus felching a 5 year old." Would you agree that you were automatically guilty just because somebody said that? But of course you would: you're a man of honor and ethics, so you'd tie the rope to the lynching tree yourself and make sure the whole neighborhood showed up. Who needs a fair trial when all it takes to convict is somebody talking shiat? Note that by your standard you can be guilty of felching a 5 year old without even having to go anywhere near one: it's the accusation that makes you guilty, not anything you might have done.

What other felonies are you guilty of? Bank robbing? Tax evasion? If all anybody has to do to prove you guilty is accuse you of something... I know: it was YOU behind 9/11, wasn't it. You might as well confess and get it over with. Note also that in American law you don't have to prove yourself innocent, it's that the prosecution has to prove you guilty. Which we've already established because I said so. I suggest you take the next boat to Gitmo and volunteer yourself.

There are several; countries in the world that are made for people like you. North Korea comes immediately to mind. Why don't you go there? They love to have you, for lunch even.

If it were my 16 year old girl, or my 17 year old niece, and a 29 year old female teacher? Since 16 is legal in her state the most I'd do, if the teacher was teaching her that year, is once we established that my niece happily consented I'd tell the teacher to back off until she was not currently teaching her.

But just some other teacher from the building? And a female yet? I'd shrug it off. Good for them. I mean, my niece is related so I can't ask to watch or join in...

I can't imagine yelling "Hey! Pedo! Step back so an 18 year old boy can knock her up and wreck her life!"

FrancoFile:gerbilpox: FrancoFile: Do you not understand the person-of-authority thing? It's like sexual harassment in the workplace. Their doesn't have to be an overt quid-pro-quo. Merely the fact that one person is in a position of authority over another makes it wrong.

From TFA:

Police said her daughter was not even in Garcia's classroom at Hastings High School.

So, no conflict of intest.

Also 16 is legal in most states. It's 17 in Texas, so she wasn't that far off.

/Not that I looked up the law while I was there, or anything

Have to disagree. If you're goofing off in the hallway when you should be in class, any teacher can discipline you. If there's an emergency (tornado warning, bomb scare, fire) then the entire staff is responsible for the entire student body.

Sounds like she was taking care of her whole body. As for discipline, I don't know... but let me go to my bunk and ponder it for a while.

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: When it's a sex crime (and especially when kids are involved), the accused is automatically guilty, even if they're proven innocent in court. I've seen several people have their businesses, careers, families, and lives completely destroyed just from the accusation alone, even after proving their innocence in court.

The One True TheDavid: This.

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion:I find this to be a telling snippet from the article: She didn't have anything to say until she was cornered several blocks away.

"Just leave me alone," said Garcia.

The media chased her down, literally sprinting after her, until they had her cornered.

The One True TheDavid: They should be publicly flogged. Seriously. Tie them to a pole and teach them manners. After they're tried and found guilty of whatever kind of "harassment" charge applies, of course.

Big Doofus: Seriously??? You're pissed off at the media after a teacher bangs a student? Wow, we are really in trouble as a society. What if that was your kid? That's right, you don't have kids. You've never made it that far in life.

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. Do you even understand the concept? It's not like they were caught live on TV: all we have is an unsubstantiated, unproven charge. The case hasn't even gone to trial yet.

What if it was YOU? Suppose somebody said "I saw Big Doofus felching a 5 year old." Would you agree that you were automatically guilty just because somebody said that? But of course you would: you're a man of honor and ethics, so you'd tie the rope to the lynching tree yourself and make sure the whole neighborhood showed up. Who needs a fair trial when all it takes to convict is somebody talking shiat? Note that by your standard you can be guilty of felching a 5 year old without even having to go anywhere near one: it's the accusation that makes you guilty, not anything you might have done.

The father, Jonathon Edington, 29, a Fairfield patent lawyer, broke into the home of his neighbor, Barry James, on Aug. 28 and repeatedly stabbed him, just minutes after his wife told him that Mr. James had molested their daughter, according to the police.

But on Thursday, police Capt. Gary MacNamara said : ''We are confident in our investigation that Mr. Edington did in fact kill Mr. James. We're confident that Mr. James did not molest the Edingtons' daughter.''