(Original post by hazzer1998)
Wait ! So now military action isn't the responsibility of the defence ministry? That's news to me ....next your be telling me the Department of health doesn't have to deal with the NHS ...

The waging and declaration of war are not the same, further you are assuming that this government actually had the stones for such a thing.

(Original post by JoeL1994)
We're not under attack but thousands if not millions are in the middle east and we are at threat every day. Look at France, it can happen at any moment no matter how modernised we see our security services to be.

ISIS are committing acts beyond our comprehension, whilst in most cases I would support non-interventionism, it is of my personal opinion that it is just a matter of time until we need to support those being killed just for being different.

Why not get a Winston Churchill into Syria, international countries train the healthy men and send them to Syrian Government to fight and gain back with the support of Kurds?

Nay. All it would do would further swing marginal extremists susceptible to both ISIS and related extremists.

Further additions to a death toll is something not needed.

It's an excuse for legitimising further actions which would have a high civilian casualties. It would be far more productive in the long term to seek economic and political based solutions through the UN or an unbiased ( to as much as an extent possible ) framework.

I would call on the author of the petition to do the requisite research on international law to assess the impacts, rather than leaving it for the government to do. I'm also not really sure what this does - it sounds hollow, like Hollande's similar declaration, or like the 'war on terror'.

(Original post by shawn_o1)
Nobody solves violence with violence. Yet, because primitive instincts prevail, it seems to be the only "solution".

Yes, no-one is more amenable to dialogue and compromise than Islamist terrorists who want to wipe every non-Muslim off the earth. If only we could get them around the negotiating table perhaps we could secure peace in our time.

ISIS are the most unambiguous evil we've seen in our lifetime. They, and the ideology that drives them, need to be confronted head-on.

Lol. Declaring war on them would effectively mean recognising them as a state, and then a load of lefties would start to say they are entitled to provisions from the Geneva conventions and all that *******s.

Nay, we should just get on with it and kill every one of the brain dead c**ts asap.

(Original post by EricAteYou)
Why are you supporting it then if you know it's useless? Lobby fodder?

If the government makes a formal declaration of war it puts gets them to actually take some action, which is something they haven't done on this particular issue. What specific action they take is completely up to them though, as they're the government.

(Original post by Quamquam123)
Nay! Please not another conflict. Have we not learn from Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan that such conflicts cost vast amounts of money and lives. In the World Wars, we had to fight because we were under direct attack but in this situation we are not. We need to step back and really question whether we would gain anything by starting yet another conflict. I do not see why we can't just the UN or NATO sort it out for once.