Striker Osvaldo ‘took a pay cut’ to force Saints exit

Juventus coach Antonio Conte says that Dani Osvaldo accepted a pay cut in order to move from Saints to the Italian giants.

The forward completed a loan switch to the Serie A leaders on transfer deadline day, with an option for the deal to become permanent in the summer.

It is understood that Saints struck an agreement that meant they would not fund any of his wages while he is with Juventus, and it seems that Osvaldo, who is in need of regular football with the World Cup on the horizon, has had to agree to reduced terms with the Turin outfit.

“Osvaldo was an opportunity that we took,” Conte is quoted as saying by the Italian media. “Osvaldo desperately wanted Juventus and reduced his wages by a lot to come to us.

“We are happy to have a player who improves our quality in attack, as we have Serie A and the Europa League to challenge for.”

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Osvaldo was moved on from St Mary’s after allegedly headbutting his teammate, José Fonte, in training last month – an incident that prompted the club to suspend him for two weeks. His transfer is initially a loan deal until the end of the season, but Juventus have until May 31 to exercise an option to make it permanent.

If they take that up, they will have to pay Saints £15.5m over three seasons, which would represent a profit on the £12.9m, up to a possible £14.6m, the club agreed to pay to Roma for his services.

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Desperate times call for desperate measures hey, Mr Osvaldo! So disheartened by your lack of 'control' that clearly has blighted your career, ostensible to your fantastic goal scoring prowess that never manifested itself in a Saints shirt. More of the latter Mr Osvaldo. Goodbye and good luck! Onwards and upwards, COYR!

Desperate times call for desperate measures hey, Mr Osvaldo!
So disheartened by your lack of 'control' that clearly has blighted your career, ostensible to your fantastic goal scoring prowess that never manifested itself in a Saints shirt. More of the latter Mr Osvaldo.
Goodbye and good luck!
Onwards and upwards, COYR!Rupert Lowe's Backside

Desperate times call for desperate measures hey, Mr Osvaldo! So disheartened by your lack of 'control' that clearly has blighted your career, ostensible to your fantastic goal scoring prowess that never manifested itself in a Saints shirt. More of the latter Mr Osvaldo. Goodbye and good luck! Onwards and upwards, COYR!

Score: 39

fritzer says...6:45am Tue 4 Feb 14

He will return, how is he going to keep his nose clean for 4 months ??????

He will return, how is he going to keep his nose clean for 4 months ??????fritzer

He will return, how is he going to keep his nose clean for 4 months ??????

Score: 21

Sammy2sheds says...6:57am Tue 4 Feb 14

A gentlemen til the end All the best dani

A gentlemen til the end
All the best daniSammy2sheds

A gentlemen til the end All the best dani

Score: -56

InCortesewetrust says...7:13am Tue 4 Feb 14

Poor lad how can he survive on £17kpw? Hope he saved his penny's whilst at saints, wouldn't want anyone going hungry in these hard times we live in.

Poor lad how can he survive on £17kpw? Hope he saved his penny's whilst at saints, wouldn't want anyone going hungry in these hard times we live in.InCortesewetrust

Poor lad how can he survive on £17kpw? Hope he saved his penny's whilst at saints, wouldn't want anyone going hungry in these hard times we live in.

Score: 26

saints80 says...7:24am Tue 4 Feb 14

I really hope that his poor form continues and he is not on the plane to Brazil. Thats the least he deserves. Good riddance. Don't think he ever wanted to be at saints. Like the players said, he is arrogant and thinks he beter than everyone.

I really hope that his poor form continues and he is not on the plane to Brazil. Thats the least he deserves. Good riddance. Don't think he ever wanted to be at saints. Like the players said, he is arrogant and thinks he beter than everyone.saints80

I really hope that his poor form continues and he is not on the plane to Brazil. Thats the least he deserves. Good riddance. Don't think he ever wanted to be at saints. Like the players said, he is arrogant and thinks he beter than everyone.

Score: 26

milton road says...8:20am Tue 4 Feb 14

You had best hope he shows he can score otherwise we are lumped with him. If he stayed at Saints its unlikely he would of gone to the world cup. In truth he couldn't lace RL's boots

You had best hope he shows he can score otherwise we are lumped with him.
If he stayed at Saints its unlikely he would of gone to the world cup. In truth he couldn't lace RL's bootsmilton road

You had best hope he shows he can score otherwise we are lumped with him. If he stayed at Saints its unlikely he would of gone to the world cup. In truth he couldn't lace RL's boots

Score: 32

chapelsaint says...8:23am Tue 4 Feb 14

Osvaldo aside, does it not seem as if the Premier League clubs are all being taken for a ride when it comes to wages demanded by imported players?

Osvaldo aside, does it not seem as if the Premier League clubs are all being taken for a ride when it comes to wages demanded by imported players?chapelsaint

Osvaldo aside, does it not seem as if the Premier League clubs are all being taken for a ride when it comes to wages demanded by imported players?

Score: 35

therealredarmy says...8:41am Tue 4 Feb 14

Dani Osvaldo is smart he know it's World Cup year that's why he decide to take a pay cut and play for Juventus because he knows the Italian coach won't be bothered to watch any Italian in the EPL. Most of the Italian play in the Serie A anyway smart move for him. At the end of the loan he'll be back unless Saint decide to sale him on cheap in my opinion it's very unlikely that the we get 10 or 14 million for him ageing player, bad attitude very unlikely .

Dani Osvaldo is smart he know it's World Cup year that's why he decide to take a pay cut and play for Juventus because he knows the Italian coach won't be bothered to watch any Italian in the EPL. Most of the Italian play in the Serie A anyway smart move for him. At the end of the loan he'll be back unless Saint decide to sale him on cheap in my opinion it's very unlikely that the we get 10 or 14 million for him ageing player, bad attitude very unlikely .therealredarmy

Dani Osvaldo is smart he know it's World Cup year that's why he decide to take a pay cut and play for Juventus because he knows the Italian coach won't be bothered to watch any Italian in the EPL. Most of the Italian play in the Serie A anyway smart move for him. At the end of the loan he'll be back unless Saint decide to sale him on cheap in my opinion it's very unlikely that the we get 10 or 14 million for him ageing player, bad attitude very unlikely .

Score: -10

Alicesdad says...9:26am Tue 4 Feb 14

therealredarmy wrote…

Dani Osvaldo is smart he know it's World Cup year that's why he decide to take a pay cut and play for Juventus because he knows the Italian coach won't be bothered to watch any Italian in the EPL. Most of the Italian play in the Serie A anyway smart move for him. At the end of the loan he'll be back unless Saint decide to sale him on cheap in my opinion it's very unlikely that the we get 10 or 14 million for him ageing player, bad attitude very unlikely .

I can't help but agree. Juventus has taken his wage bill for the moment but I doubt they will buy him. They have already indicated that they couldnt pay the fee unless they sold someone. I'm not sure how that played out. Is it still a problem? It wont change bewteen now and May. I also doubt he could do a Puncheon and get back in our team. I expect he will return and we will off load him elsewhere, probably at significant loss. He may even end up being loaned out to various clubs ad infinitum - his reputation is going to be a major obstacle. Ironically the only way we could possibly do well out of this is if he plays brilliantly at Juve and shines at the world cup so oither teams come in with bids. Frankly the signs are not there that this will happen. I hope I'm wrong.

[quote][p][bold]therealredarmy[/bold] wrote:
Dani Osvaldo is smart he know it's World Cup year that's why he decide to take a pay cut and play for Juventus because he knows the Italian coach won't be bothered to watch any Italian in the EPL. Most of the Italian play in the Serie A anyway smart move for him. At the end of the loan he'll be back unless Saint decide to sale him on cheap in my opinion it's very unlikely that the we get 10 or 14 million for him ageing player, bad attitude very unlikely .[/p][/quote]I can't help but agree. Juventus has taken his wage bill for the moment but I doubt they will buy him. They have already indicated that they couldnt pay the fee unless they sold someone. I'm not sure how that played out. Is it still a problem? It wont change bewteen now and May.
I also doubt he could do a Puncheon and get back in our team. I expect he will return and we will off load him elsewhere, probably at significant loss. He may even end up being loaned out to various clubs ad infinitum - his reputation is going to be a major obstacle.
Ironically the only way we could possibly do well out of this is if he plays brilliantly at Juve and shines at the world cup so oither teams come in with bids. Frankly the signs are not there that this will happen. I hope I'm wrong.Alicesdad

therealredarmy wrote…

Dani Osvaldo is smart he know it's World Cup year that's why he decide to take a pay cut and play for Juventus because he knows the Italian coach won't be bothered to watch any Italian in the EPL. Most of the Italian play in the Serie A anyway smart move for him. At the end of the loan he'll be back unless Saint decide to sale him on cheap in my opinion it's very unlikely that the we get 10 or 14 million for him ageing player, bad attitude very unlikely .

I can't help but agree. Juventus has taken his wage bill for the moment but I doubt they will buy him. They have already indicated that they couldnt pay the fee unless they sold someone. I'm not sure how that played out. Is it still a problem? It wont change bewteen now and May. I also doubt he could do a Puncheon and get back in our team. I expect he will return and we will off load him elsewhere, probably at significant loss. He may even end up being loaned out to various clubs ad infinitum - his reputation is going to be a major obstacle. Ironically the only way we could possibly do well out of this is if he plays brilliantly at Juve and shines at the world cup so oither teams come in with bids. Frankly the signs are not there that this will happen. I hope I'm wrong.

Score: 20

Clever Dick says...9:53am Tue 4 Feb 14

I expect Jose had a quiet word in his ear "off you go son or you're gonna get clattered every time you turn up for training"

I expect Jose had a quiet word in his ear "off you go son or you're gonna get clattered every time you turn up for training"Clever Dick

I expect Jose had a quiet word in his ear "off you go son or you're gonna get clattered every time you turn up for training"

Score: 14

therealredarmy says...10:04am Tue 4 Feb 14

@Alicesdad You are not wrong you right ! Only deluded would think that we can get anything from him !. I think will get 5 or 6 million or he get loaned out until his contract expire. It is sad because it' a massive loss financially but that's way it is

@Alicesdad
You are not wrong you right ! Only deluded would think that we can get anything from him !. I think will get 5 or 6 million or he get loaned out until his contract expire. It is sad because it' a massive loss financially but that's way it istherealredarmy

@Alicesdad You are not wrong you right ! Only deluded would think that we can get anything from him !. I think will get 5 or 6 million or he get loaned out until his contract expire. It is sad because it' a massive loss financially but that's way it is

Score: -15

mbetts says...10:07am Tue 4 Feb 14

They're the pitfalls of paying top dollar for hyped up players, Wanyama? Cork's better, Forren? Youtube signing, Osvaldo? Ego driven talented but never really delivered, Tad Lee? Not up too standard and bought to appease the eastern market likewise Yoshida, Ramirez? Probably too much expectation and Mayuka? Poor mans Billy Sharpe! Our kids have outshone all of the above and Lambert, Schniederlin, Boruc, Lallana, Cork and J Rod cost peanuts in comparison and are light years ahead, we need to do better research before throwing more money on any more second rate Euro flops!

They're the pitfalls of paying top dollar for hyped up players, Wanyama? Cork's better, Forren? Youtube signing, Osvaldo? Ego driven talented but never really delivered, Tad Lee? Not up too standard and bought to appease the eastern market likewise Yoshida, Ramirez? Probably too much expectation and Mayuka? Poor mans Billy Sharpe!
Our kids have outshone all of the above and Lambert, Schniederlin, Boruc, Lallana, Cork and J Rod cost peanuts in comparison and are light years ahead, we need to do better research before throwing more money on any more second rate Euro flops!mbetts

They're the pitfalls of paying top dollar for hyped up players, Wanyama? Cork's better, Forren? Youtube signing, Osvaldo? Ego driven talented but never really delivered, Tad Lee? Not up too standard and bought to appease the eastern market likewise Yoshida, Ramirez? Probably too much expectation and Mayuka? Poor mans Billy Sharpe! Our kids have outshone all of the above and Lambert, Schniederlin, Boruc, Lallana, Cork and J Rod cost peanuts in comparison and are light years ahead, we need to do better research before throwing more money on any more second rate Euro flops!

Score: 20

therealredarmy says...10:24am Tue 4 Feb 14

@mbetts Saying that Cork is better than Wanyama its a bit much I think !. Before his injury Wanyama was just unstoppable, Then Cork was introduce and we had a bad run around November til mid December due to injury. Wanyama is not match fit he need more minutes in competitive game then maybe he'll be back in the team. In my opinion Wanyama is a bit better than Cork stronger good Tackler.

@mbetts
Saying that Cork is better than Wanyama its a bit much I think !. Before his injury Wanyama was just unstoppable, Then Cork was introduce and we had a bad run around November til mid December due to injury. Wanyama is not match fit he need more minutes in competitive game then maybe he'll be back in the team. In my opinion Wanyama is a bit better than Cork stronger good Tackler.therealredarmy

@mbetts Saying that Cork is better than Wanyama its a bit much I think !. Before his injury Wanyama was just unstoppable, Then Cork was introduce and we had a bad run around November til mid December due to injury. Wanyama is not match fit he need more minutes in competitive game then maybe he'll be back in the team. In my opinion Wanyama is a bit better than Cork stronger good Tackler.

Score: -4

allsaintsnocurves says...10:31am Tue 4 Feb 14

Good!!

Good!!allsaintsnocurves

Good!!

Score: 12

White and red till dead says...10:40am Tue 4 Feb 14

therealredarmy wrote…

@mbetts Saying that Cork is better than Wanyama its a bit much I think !. Before his injury Wanyama was just unstoppable, Then Cork was introduce and we had a bad run around November til mid December due to injury. Wanyama is not match fit he need more minutes in competitive game then maybe he'll be back in the team. In my opinion Wanyama is a bit better than Cork stronger good Tackler.

You obviously didn't see the match on Saturday. Wanyama couldn't string a pass together, not that he has done in any other match. Good tackler? not unless you mean hacking into another player and picking up yellow. Jack Cork changed the match and is different class.

[quote][p][bold]therealredarmy[/bold] wrote:
@mbetts
Saying that Cork is better than Wanyama its a bit much I think !. Before his injury Wanyama was just unstoppable, Then Cork was introduce and we had a bad run around November til mid December due to injury. Wanyama is not match fit he need more minutes in competitive game then maybe he'll be back in the team. In my opinion Wanyama is a bit better than Cork stronger good Tackler.[/p][/quote]You obviously didn't see the match on Saturday. Wanyama couldn't string a pass together, not that he has done in any other match. Good tackler? not unless you mean hacking into another player and picking up yellow. Jack Cork changed the match and is different class.White and red till dead

therealredarmy wrote…

@mbetts Saying that Cork is better than Wanyama its a bit much I think !. Before his injury Wanyama was just unstoppable, Then Cork was introduce and we had a bad run around November til mid December due to injury. Wanyama is not match fit he need more minutes in competitive game then maybe he'll be back in the team. In my opinion Wanyama is a bit better than Cork stronger good Tackler.

You obviously didn't see the match on Saturday. Wanyama couldn't string a pass together, not that he has done in any other match. Good tackler? not unless you mean hacking into another player and picking up yellow. Jack Cork changed the match and is different class.

Score: 28

saints80 says...10:49am Tue 4 Feb 14

milton road wrote…

You had best hope he shows he can score otherwise we are lumped with him. If he stayed at Saints its unlikely he would of gone to the world cup. In truth he couldn't lace RL's boots

I think he will be lucky to get a start at juve unless they have an injury. We maybe be stuck with him if he does not perform, but I'd sooner see him rot in our reserves and take digs from most of our players before he gets on a plane to Brazil. We saved him from the roma fans that hated him. Can't think why they did not like him. He's not a professional and spits his dummy out when he doesn't get his own way.

[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote:
You had best hope he shows he can score otherwise we are lumped with him. If he stayed at Saints its unlikely he would of gone to the world cup. In truth he couldn't lace RL's boots[/p][/quote]I think he will be lucky to get a start at juve unless they have an injury. We maybe be stuck with him if he does not perform, but I'd sooner see him rot in our reserves and take digs from most of our players before he gets on a plane to Brazil. We saved him from the roma fans that hated him. Can't think why they did not like him. He's not a professional and spits his dummy out when he doesn't get his own way.saints80

milton road wrote…

You had best hope he shows he can score otherwise we are lumped with him. If he stayed at Saints its unlikely he would of gone to the world cup. In truth he couldn't lace RL's boots

I think he will be lucky to get a start at juve unless they have an injury. We maybe be stuck with him if he does not perform, but I'd sooner see him rot in our reserves and take digs from most of our players before he gets on a plane to Brazil. We saved him from the roma fans that hated him. Can't think why they did not like him. He's not a professional and spits his dummy out when he doesn't get his own way.

Score: 14

Pooley says...10:52am Tue 4 Feb 14

Sammy2sheds wrote…

A gentlemen til the end All the best dani

Sarky! but funny Sammy.... Osvaldo must have more burnt bridges behind him than Ghengis Khan on a rampage

[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote:
A gentlemen til the end
All the best dani[/p][/quote]Sarky! but funny Sammy....
Osvaldo must have more burnt bridges behind him than Ghengis Khan on a rampagePooley

Sammy2sheds wrote…

A gentlemen til the end All the best dani

Sarky! but funny Sammy.... Osvaldo must have more burnt bridges behind him than Ghengis Khan on a rampage

Score: 17

gr8saint says...11:02am Tue 4 Feb 14

mbetts wrote…

They're the pitfalls of paying top dollar for hyped up players, Wanyama? Cork's better, Forren? Youtube signing, Osvaldo? Ego driven talented but never really delivered, Tad Lee? Not up too standard and bought to appease the eastern market likewise Yoshida, Ramirez? Probably too much expectation and Mayuka? Poor mans Billy Sharpe! Our kids have outshone all of the above and Lambert, Schniederlin, Boruc, Lallana, Cork and J Rod cost peanuts in comparison and are light years ahead, we need to do better research before throwing more money on any more second rate Euro flops!

We will do more research now! They have completed a facility at Staplewood which enables us to monitor and analyse every game in the top 5 European leagues (at present) with the potential to improve on that. A combination of that and our scouting network will provide immense levels of statistical knowledge, but more importantly with a team analysing every game featuring any established targets, the scouts will have more time to find young gems to recruit to the Academy!

[quote][p][bold]mbetts[/bold] wrote:
They're the pitfalls of paying top dollar for hyped up players, Wanyama? Cork's better, Forren? Youtube signing, Osvaldo? Ego driven talented but never really delivered, Tad Lee? Not up too standard and bought to appease the eastern market likewise Yoshida, Ramirez? Probably too much expectation and Mayuka? Poor mans Billy Sharpe!
Our kids have outshone all of the above and Lambert, Schniederlin, Boruc, Lallana, Cork and J Rod cost peanuts in comparison and are light years ahead, we need to do better research before throwing more money on any more second rate Euro flops![/p][/quote]We will do more research now! They have completed a facility at Staplewood which enables us to monitor and analyse every game in the top 5 European leagues (at present) with the potential to improve on that.
A combination of that and our scouting network will provide immense levels of statistical knowledge, but more importantly with a team analysing every game featuring any established targets, the scouts will have more time to find young gems to recruit to the Academy!gr8saint

mbetts wrote…

They're the pitfalls of paying top dollar for hyped up players, Wanyama? Cork's better, Forren? Youtube signing, Osvaldo? Ego driven talented but never really delivered, Tad Lee? Not up too standard and bought to appease the eastern market likewise Yoshida, Ramirez? Probably too much expectation and Mayuka? Poor mans Billy Sharpe! Our kids have outshone all of the above and Lambert, Schniederlin, Boruc, Lallana, Cork and J Rod cost peanuts in comparison and are light years ahead, we need to do better research before throwing more money on any more second rate Euro flops!

We will do more research now! They have completed a facility at Staplewood which enables us to monitor and analyse every game in the top 5 European leagues (at present) with the potential to improve on that. A combination of that and our scouting network will provide immense levels of statistical knowledge, but more importantly with a team analysing every game featuring any established targets, the scouts will have more time to find young gems to recruit to the Academy!

Score: 11

Pooley says...11:08am Tue 4 Feb 14

Sammy2sheds wrote…

A gentlemen til the end All the best dani

Nice one Sammy ...very funny. I reckon that within a couple of years Osvaldo will have more burning bridges behind him than Ghengis Khan after a rampage!

[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote:
A gentlemen til the end
All the best dani[/p][/quote]Nice one Sammy ...very funny. I reckon that within a couple of years Osvaldo will have more burning bridges behind him than Ghengis Khan after a rampage!Pooley

Sammy2sheds wrote…

A gentlemen til the end All the best dani

Nice one Sammy ...very funny. I reckon that within a couple of years Osvaldo will have more burning bridges behind him than Ghengis Khan after a rampage!

Score: 8

el caballo santos101 says...11:08am Tue 4 Feb 14

To say an Italian international forward is only worth around £8mill is madness. he may not have done well here but his record at roma and espanyol is quite good, scoring around a goal every other game. the fact that he hasnt settled here wont bother Italian or Spanish teams. that's why Juve have agreed a high price to have the option to buy. if he does well at juve then they will have to pay the agreed price, if they don't want him there will be other clubs that do. players `bad` boy reputations rarely go against them when it comes to transfers, barton, Balotelli, El Hadji Diouf, Suarez, Tevez who had previous troubles then refused to play and went on `strike` but still got a £10mill+ move, Zlatan Ibrahimovic has had combined moves of around £150mill and he has fought with a teammate, threatened others, stamped opponents, was sent home from a World Cup qualifier for breaking a curfew! there are too many more to mention, but as I said there will always be clubs that think they can get the best out of this type of player so we wont be `stuck with him` or forced to `take a huge loss on transfer fess`. whatever happens we will not se Osvaldo back at sms, and after all isn't that the most important thing? well done to the team at sms for negotiating such a good deal to offload a player that everyone knew we didn't want. a good loan fee coming in, no wages going out and a great fee if juve want to keep him.

To say an Italian international forward is only worth around £8mill is madness. he may not have done well here but his record at roma and espanyol is quite good, scoring around a goal every other game. the fact that he hasnt settled here wont bother Italian or Spanish teams. that's why Juve have agreed a high price to have the option to buy. if he does well at juve then they will have to pay the agreed price, if they don't want him there will be other clubs that do.
players `bad` boy reputations rarely go against them when it comes to transfers, barton, Balotelli, El Hadji Diouf, Suarez, Tevez who had previous troubles then refused to play and went on `strike` but still got a £10mill+ move, Zlatan Ibrahimovic has had combined moves of around £150mill and he has fought with a teammate, threatened others, stamped opponents, was sent home from a World Cup qualifier for breaking a curfew!
there are too many more to mention, but as I said there will always be clubs that think they can get the best out of this type of player so we wont be `stuck with him` or forced to `take a huge loss on transfer fess`. whatever happens we will not se Osvaldo back at sms, and after all isn't that the most important thing?
well done to the team at sms for negotiating such a good deal to offload a player that everyone knew we didn't want. a good loan fee coming in, no wages going out and a great fee if juve want to keep him.el caballo santos101

To say an Italian international forward is only worth around £8mill is madness. he may not have done well here but his record at roma and espanyol is quite good, scoring around a goal every other game. the fact that he hasnt settled here wont bother Italian or Spanish teams. that's why Juve have agreed a high price to have the option to buy. if he does well at juve then they will have to pay the agreed price, if they don't want him there will be other clubs that do. players `bad` boy reputations rarely go against them when it comes to transfers, barton, Balotelli, El Hadji Diouf, Suarez, Tevez who had previous troubles then refused to play and went on `strike` but still got a £10mill+ move, Zlatan Ibrahimovic has had combined moves of around £150mill and he has fought with a teammate, threatened others, stamped opponents, was sent home from a World Cup qualifier for breaking a curfew! there are too many more to mention, but as I said there will always be clubs that think they can get the best out of this type of player so we wont be `stuck with him` or forced to `take a huge loss on transfer fess`. whatever happens we will not se Osvaldo back at sms, and after all isn't that the most important thing? well done to the team at sms for negotiating such a good deal to offload a player that everyone knew we didn't want. a good loan fee coming in, no wages going out and a great fee if juve want to keep him.

Score: 24

therealredarmy says...11:19am Tue 4 Feb 14

@gr8saint My mates said the same thing about recruiting young talent and nurture them til they make it to the 1st team. I agree but at the moment we can only take young talent from the UK. We don't have the power of Fc Porto who keep taking young talent from South America for example. I think we could convince them to sign for us if we constantly qualify in Europe, Hopefully this year if not next year for sure. It's a long project but after seeing the bad time now it's our time to shine !

@gr8saint
My mates said the same thing about recruiting young talent and nurture them til they make it to the 1st team. I agree but at the moment we can only take young talent from the UK. We don't have the power of Fc Porto who keep taking young talent from South America for example. I think we could convince them to sign for us if we constantly qualify in Europe, Hopefully this year if not next year for sure. It's a long project but after seeing the bad time now it's our time to shine !therealredarmy

@gr8saint My mates said the same thing about recruiting young talent and nurture them til they make it to the 1st team. I agree but at the moment we can only take young talent from the UK. We don't have the power of Fc Porto who keep taking young talent from South America for example. I think we could convince them to sign for us if we constantly qualify in Europe, Hopefully this year if not next year for sure. It's a long project but after seeing the bad time now it's our time to shine !

Score: 7

gr8saint says...11:38am Tue 4 Feb 14

therealredarmy wrote…

@gr8saint My mates said the same thing about recruiting young talent and nurture them til they make it to the 1st team. I agree but at the moment we can only take young talent from the UK. We don't have the power of Fc Porto who keep taking young talent from South America for example. I think we could convince them to sign for us if we constantly qualify in Europe, Hopefully this year if not next year for sure. It's a long project but after seeing the bad time now it's our time to shine !

I agree with the fact that it will be tough for us, but since the sale of Bale, the buzz has gotten louder when it comes to the "Southampton Production Line" as it's being referred to. People are starting to realise what we can do with youngsters and once we're achieving Europe, like you said, we'll go from strength to strength.

[quote][p][bold]therealredarmy[/bold] wrote:
@gr8saint
My mates said the same thing about recruiting young talent and nurture them til they make it to the 1st team. I agree but at the moment we can only take young talent from the UK. We don't have the power of Fc Porto who keep taking young talent from South America for example. I think we could convince them to sign for us if we constantly qualify in Europe, Hopefully this year if not next year for sure. It's a long project but after seeing the bad time now it's our time to shine ![/p][/quote]I agree with the fact that it will be tough for us, but since the sale of Bale, the buzz has gotten louder when it comes to the "Southampton Production Line" as it's being referred to. People are starting to realise what we can do with youngsters and once we're achieving Europe, like you said, we'll go from strength to strength.gr8saint

therealredarmy wrote…

@gr8saint My mates said the same thing about recruiting young talent and nurture them til they make it to the 1st team. I agree but at the moment we can only take young talent from the UK. We don't have the power of Fc Porto who keep taking young talent from South America for example. I think we could convince them to sign for us if we constantly qualify in Europe, Hopefully this year if not next year for sure. It's a long project but after seeing the bad time now it's our time to shine !

I agree with the fact that it will be tough for us, but since the sale of Bale, the buzz has gotten louder when it comes to the "Southampton Production Line" as it's being referred to. People are starting to realise what we can do with youngsters and once we're achieving Europe, like you said, we'll go from strength to strength.

Score: 11

Folkestone Saint says...12:35pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Sammy2sheds wrote…

A gentlemen til the end All the best dani

He's more likely to appear at the Jeremy Kyle show than for us

[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote:
A gentlemen til the end
All the best dani[/p][/quote]He's more likely to appear at the Jeremy Kyle show than for usFolkestone Saint

Sammy2sheds wrote…

A gentlemen til the end All the best dani

He's more likely to appear at the Jeremy Kyle show than for us

Score: 8

warrens 76 says...12:36pm Tue 4 Feb 14

therealredarmy wrote…

@mbetts Saying that Cork is better than Wanyama its a bit much I think !. Before his injury Wanyama was just unstoppable, Then Cork was introduce and we had a bad run around November til mid December due to injury. Wanyama is not match fit he need more minutes in competitive game then maybe he'll be back in the team. In my opinion Wanyama is a bit better than Cork stronger good Tackler.

It would be useful to play them both allowing Cork to get forward more, this i believe would help cure our often slow speed of play in the final third problem, saturday was a beautiful example of what we can do when using speed.... ...many people blame our problems on needing a world class ie 40 million striker and yes JRod is not as lethal as Rickie when given some clear cut chances however it is our ability to open teams up even though we have all the possession that is the root cause of us not being 3rd in the table today.. ..I really believe Cork pushing up and Wanyama acting as our rampant bull elephant in defensive midfield would solve this....our strikers are good enough if there are enough clear cut chances.

[quote][p][bold]therealredarmy[/bold] wrote:
@mbetts
Saying that Cork is better than Wanyama its a bit much I think !. Before his injury Wanyama was just unstoppable, Then Cork was introduce and we had a bad run around November til mid December due to injury. Wanyama is not match fit he need more minutes in competitive game then maybe he'll be back in the team. In my opinion Wanyama is a bit better than Cork stronger good Tackler.[/p][/quote]It would be useful to play them both allowing Cork to get forward more, this i believe would help cure our often slow speed of play in the final third problem, saturday was a beautiful example of what we can do when using speed....
...many people blame our problems on needing a world class ie 40 million striker and yes JRod is not as lethal as Rickie when given some clear cut chances however it is our ability to open teams up even though we have all the possession that is the root cause of us not being 3rd in the table today..
..I really believe Cork pushing up and Wanyama acting as our rampant bull elephant in defensive midfield would solve this....our strikers are good enough if there are enough clear cut chances.warrens 76

therealredarmy wrote…

@mbetts Saying that Cork is better than Wanyama its a bit much I think !. Before his injury Wanyama was just unstoppable, Then Cork was introduce and we had a bad run around November til mid December due to injury. Wanyama is not match fit he need more minutes in competitive game then maybe he'll be back in the team. In my opinion Wanyama is a bit better than Cork stronger good Tackler.

It would be useful to play them both allowing Cork to get forward more, this i believe would help cure our often slow speed of play in the final third problem, saturday was a beautiful example of what we can do when using speed.... ...many people blame our problems on needing a world class ie 40 million striker and yes JRod is not as lethal as Rickie when given some clear cut chances however it is our ability to open teams up even though we have all the possession that is the root cause of us not being 3rd in the table today.. ..I really believe Cork pushing up and Wanyama acting as our rampant bull elephant in defensive midfield would solve this....our strikers are good enough if there are enough clear cut chances.

Score: 16

kiddynamite says...12:55pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Saints have been blagged into lending him till the end of the season. Hes crap, Juve wont keep him. The tosser will be back at saints for the summer holiday! Fact! Hes just a greasy muppet!!

Saints have been blagged into lending him till the end of the season. Hes crap, Juve wont keep him. The tosser will be back at saints for the summer holiday! Fact! Hes just a greasy muppet!!kiddynamite

Saints have been blagged into lending him till the end of the season. Hes crap, Juve wont keep him. The tosser will be back at saints for the summer holiday! Fact! Hes just a greasy muppet!!

Score: -17

Mush On The Beach says...1:23pm Tue 4 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 wrote…

To say an Italian international forward is only worth around £8mill is madness. he may not have done well here but his record at roma and espanyol is quite good, scoring around a goal every other game. the fact that he hasnt settled here wont bother Italian or Spanish teams. that's why Juve have agreed a high price to have the option to buy. if he does well at juve then they will have to pay the agreed price, if they don't want him there will be other clubs that do. players `bad` boy reputations rarely go against them when it comes to transfers, barton, Balotelli, El Hadji Diouf, Suarez, Tevez who had previous troubles then refused to play and went on `strike` but still got a £10mill+ move, Zlatan Ibrahimovic has had combined moves of around £150mill and he has fought with a teammate, threatened others, stamped opponents, was sent home from a World Cup qualifier for breaking a curfew! there are too many more to mention, but as I said there will always be clubs that think they can get the best out of this type of player so we wont be `stuck with him` or forced to `take a huge loss on transfer fess`. whatever happens we will not se Osvaldo back at sms, and after all isn't that the most important thing? well done to the team at sms for negotiating such a good deal to offload a player that everyone knew we didn't want. a good loan fee coming in, no wages going out and a great fee if juve want to keep him.

Quite right Mr Horse. Don’t forget we took on bad boy Mark Dennis from Brum when he was in the last chance saloon, what a signing that turned out to be for us.

[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote:
To say an Italian international forward is only worth around £8mill is madness. he may not have done well here but his record at roma and espanyol is quite good, scoring around a goal every other game. the fact that he hasnt settled here wont bother Italian or Spanish teams. that's why Juve have agreed a high price to have the option to buy. if he does well at juve then they will have to pay the agreed price, if they don't want him there will be other clubs that do.
players `bad` boy reputations rarely go against them when it comes to transfers, barton, Balotelli, El Hadji Diouf, Suarez, Tevez who had previous troubles then refused to play and went on `strike` but still got a £10mill+ move, Zlatan Ibrahimovic has had combined moves of around £150mill and he has fought with a teammate, threatened others, stamped opponents, was sent home from a World Cup qualifier for breaking a curfew!
there are too many more to mention, but as I said there will always be clubs that think they can get the best out of this type of player so we wont be `stuck with him` or forced to `take a huge loss on transfer fess`. whatever happens we will not se Osvaldo back at sms, and after all isn't that the most important thing?
well done to the team at sms for negotiating such a good deal to offload a player that everyone knew we didn't want. a good loan fee coming in, no wages going out and a great fee if juve want to keep him.[/p][/quote]Quite right Mr Horse. Don’t forget we took on bad boy Mark Dennis from Brum when he was in the last chance saloon, what a signing that turned out to be for us.Mush On The Beach

el caballo santos101 wrote…

To say an Italian international forward is only worth around £8mill is madness. he may not have done well here but his record at roma and espanyol is quite good, scoring around a goal every other game. the fact that he hasnt settled here wont bother Italian or Spanish teams. that's why Juve have agreed a high price to have the option to buy. if he does well at juve then they will have to pay the agreed price, if they don't want him there will be other clubs that do. players `bad` boy reputations rarely go against them when it comes to transfers, barton, Balotelli, El Hadji Diouf, Suarez, Tevez who had previous troubles then refused to play and went on `strike` but still got a £10mill+ move, Zlatan Ibrahimovic has had combined moves of around £150mill and he has fought with a teammate, threatened others, stamped opponents, was sent home from a World Cup qualifier for breaking a curfew! there are too many more to mention, but as I said there will always be clubs that think they can get the best out of this type of player so we wont be `stuck with him` or forced to `take a huge loss on transfer fess`. whatever happens we will not se Osvaldo back at sms, and after all isn't that the most important thing? well done to the team at sms for negotiating such a good deal to offload a player that everyone knew we didn't want. a good loan fee coming in, no wages going out and a great fee if juve want to keep him.

Quite right Mr Horse. Don’t forget we took on bad boy Mark Dennis from Brum when he was in the last chance saloon, what a signing that turned out to be for us.

Score: 15

Mary80 says...1:53pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Folkestone Saint wrote…

Sammy2sheds wrote…

A gentlemen til the end All the best dani

He's more likely to appear at the Jeremy Kyle show than for us

Headbutting Jeremy Kyle

[quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote:
A gentlemen til the end
All the best dani[/p][/quote]He's more likely to appear at the Jeremy Kyle show than for us[/p][/quote]Headbutting Jeremy KyleMary80

Folkestone Saint wrote…

Sammy2sheds wrote…

A gentlemen til the end All the best dani

He's more likely to appear at the Jeremy Kyle show than for us

Headbutting Jeremy Kyle

Score: 11

The stripes says...3:16pm Tue 4 Feb 14

I don't think we'll see The Rolling Stone again. The fact he took a pay cut says enough. He really wanted out just as much as the team and club wanted shot of him after what he did. Even if Juve don't want him at the end of his loan spell he'll either get his agent to find something else (if Saints haven't already done so) or he'll be calling round on his mobile saying he'll play for free. I don't think he's the kind of guy to come back cap in hand and accept any sort of role after what's happened. I think he just used us as a stepping stone away from Roma and if it'd worked out at Saints that would've been a bonus for him. Turned out not to be. No worries anyway cos our team is great without him! Roll on Stoke.

I don't think we'll see The Rolling Stone again. The fact he took a pay cut says enough. He really wanted out just as much as the team and club wanted shot of him after what he did. Even if Juve don't want him at the end of his loan spell he'll either get his agent to find something else (if Saints haven't already done so) or he'll be calling round on his mobile saying he'll play for free. I don't think he's the kind of guy to come back cap in hand and accept any sort of role after what's happened. I think he just used us as a stepping stone away from Roma and if it'd worked out at Saints that would've been a bonus for him. Turned out not to be.
No worries anyway cos our team is great without him! Roll on Stoke.The stripes

I don't think we'll see The Rolling Stone again. The fact he took a pay cut says enough. He really wanted out just as much as the team and club wanted shot of him after what he did. Even if Juve don't want him at the end of his loan spell he'll either get his agent to find something else (if Saints haven't already done so) or he'll be calling round on his mobile saying he'll play for free. I don't think he's the kind of guy to come back cap in hand and accept any sort of role after what's happened. I think he just used us as a stepping stone away from Roma and if it'd worked out at Saints that would've been a bonus for him. Turned out not to be. No worries anyway cos our team is great without him! Roll on Stoke.

Score: 14

Outside of the Box says...3:49pm Tue 4 Feb 14

I reckon Juve will not take up the option, I don't know why but I've just got a feeling they wont.

I reckon Juve will not take up the option, I don't know why but I've just got a feeling they wont.Outside of the Box

I reckon Juve will not take up the option, I don't know why but I've just got a feeling they wont.

Score: 12

J7junctionseven says...3:52pm Tue 4 Feb 14

He'll end up in the boot of a car if the Roma fans get hold of him. Bye bye w@nker COYR

He'll end up in the boot of a car if the Roma fans get hold of him.
Bye bye w@nker
COYRJ7junctionseven

He'll end up in the boot of a car if the Roma fans get hold of him. Bye bye w@nker COYR

Score: 13

therealredarmy says...4:01pm Tue 4 Feb 14

@Outside of the Box Juventus will never buy Osvaldo but he suit them as a back up for Tevez,Llorente and Vucinic ! We are stuck !

@Outside of the Box
Juventus will never buy Osvaldo but he suit them as a back up for Tevez,Llorente and Vucinic ! We are stuck !therealredarmy

@Outside of the Box Juventus will never buy Osvaldo but he suit them as a back up for Tevez,Llorente and Vucinic ! We are stuck !

Score: -9

alanstreet46 says...4:11pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Totally agree with the general tenor of the comments here. We're well rid of a mindless thug with little talent for the PL. But I feel that Poch has to take some of the responsibility for bringing the non-entity to St Marys in the first place. Not surprised to hear the deafening silence from the manager on the subject.

Totally agree with the general tenor of the comments here. We're well rid of a mindless thug with little talent for the PL. But I feel that Poch has to take some of the responsibility for bringing the non-entity to St Marys in the first place. Not surprised to hear the deafening silence from the manager on the subject.alanstreet46

Totally agree with the general tenor of the comments here. We're well rid of a mindless thug with little talent for the PL. But I feel that Poch has to take some of the responsibility for bringing the non-entity to St Marys in the first place. Not surprised to hear the deafening silence from the manager on the subject.

Score: -9

westfordUSAsaints says...4:12pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Totally off topic. But NBC, the network station that carry the EPL here in the US. We get to watch EVERY game, EVERY week, LIVE! :-) Their goal of the week was.... J-Rod, and the Lambert pass. "Outstanding goal"

Totally off topic. But NBC, the network station that carry the EPL here in the US. We get to watch EVERY game, EVERY week, LIVE! :-)
Their goal of the week was.... J-Rod, and the Lambert pass. "Outstanding goal"westfordUSAsaints

Totally off topic. But NBC, the network station that carry the EPL here in the US. We get to watch EVERY game, EVERY week, LIVE! :-) Their goal of the week was.... J-Rod, and the Lambert pass. "Outstanding goal"

Score: 17

el caballo santos101 says...4:18pm Tue 4 Feb 14

therealredarmy wrote…

@Outside of the Box Juventus will never buy Osvaldo but he suit them as a back up for Tevez,Llorente and Vucinic ! We are stuck !

juve are trying to sell Vucinic so he wont be back up for him. even if juve don't take the option he wont be back at SMS. we will have all summer to offload him, which if he has a good world cup will work in our favour. as I said before the `bad` boy image isn't going to worry clubs, isn't hasn't worried any of the clubs who have brought other players with that image. why are saints fans calling him names? whats the point? he`s gone, he isn't coming back and we haven't lost too much, if any, money over the whole affair. the club and the players have moved on, so should we.

[quote][p][bold]therealredarmy[/bold] wrote:
@Outside of the Box
Juventus will never buy Osvaldo but he suit them as a back up for Tevez,Llorente and Vucinic ! We are stuck ![/p][/quote]juve are trying to sell Vucinic so he wont be back up for him. even if juve don't take the option he wont be back at SMS. we will have all summer to offload him, which if he has a good world cup will work in our favour. as I said before the `bad` boy image isn't going to worry clubs, isn't hasn't worried any of the clubs who have brought other players with that image.
why are saints fans calling him names? whats the point? he`s gone, he isn't coming back and we haven't lost too much, if any, money over the whole affair. the club and the players have moved on, so should we.el caballo santos101

therealredarmy wrote…

@Outside of the Box Juventus will never buy Osvaldo but he suit them as a back up for Tevez,Llorente and Vucinic ! We are stuck !

juve are trying to sell Vucinic so he wont be back up for him. even if juve don't take the option he wont be back at SMS. we will have all summer to offload him, which if he has a good world cup will work in our favour. as I said before the `bad` boy image isn't going to worry clubs, isn't hasn't worried any of the clubs who have brought other players with that image. why are saints fans calling him names? whats the point? he`s gone, he isn't coming back and we haven't lost too much, if any, money over the whole affair. the club and the players have moved on, so should we.

Score: 14

therealredarmy says...4:20pm Tue 4 Feb 14

@alanstreet46 And who is responsile for Ali Dia ! hahahahahahaha

@alanstreet46
And who is responsile for Ali Dia ! hahahahahahahatherealredarmy

@alanstreet46 And who is responsile for Ali Dia ! hahahahahahaha

Score: -12

Fatty x Ford Worker says...5:13pm Tue 4 Feb 14

A bad buy Mush look at them Cranes we are Southampton!

A bad buy Mush look at them Cranes we are Southampton!Fatty x Ford Worker

A bad buy Mush look at them Cranes we are Southampton!

Score: 10

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH says...5:16pm Tue 4 Feb 14

ANDY CARROLL loses his appeal and will serve a 3 match ban. HAPPY DAYS - although wet spam play agricultural football - We go for the WIN. SAINTS FANS have so many options for Tickets all of a sudden. Liverpool has been sold out - but Boro in the Cup Stoke at Home Hull and Wet Spam Away all available. There is still needle with Wet Spam after our Championship Battle to get Promoted. IT WILL BE A GOOD DAY OUT AND EVEN BETTER WITH AN AWAY WIN. EXPECT A WIN AGAINST HULL (like the night in the Championship) AND A BATTLE ROYALE vs SUNDERLAND. THE AWAY DAYS ARE ALWAYS A GREAT DAY OUT - A FEW BEERS GOAL CELEBRATIONS AND THE FIGHT FOR VICTORY. WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON. WE FIGHT TO GO ABOVE Newcastle and Manure. WE FIGHT FOR A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE AND THE CUP.

ANDY CARROLL loses his appeal and will serve a 3 match ban.
HAPPY DAYS - although wet spam play agricultural football - We go for the WIN.
SAINTS FANS have so many options for Tickets all of a sudden. Liverpool has been sold out - but Boro in the Cup Stoke at Home Hull and Wet Spam Away all available.
There is still needle with Wet Spam after our Championship Battle to get Promoted.
IT WILL BE A GOOD DAY OUT AND EVEN BETTER WITH AN AWAY WIN.
EXPECT A WIN AGAINST HULL (like the night in the Championship) AND A BATTLE ROYALE vs SUNDERLAND.
THE AWAY DAYS ARE ALWAYS A GREAT DAY OUT - A FEW BEERS GOAL CELEBRATIONS AND THE FIGHT FOR VICTORY.
WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.
WE FIGHT TO GO ABOVE Newcastle and Manure.
WE FIGHT FOR A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE AND THE CUP.REDARMYRULETHESOUTH

ANDY CARROLL loses his appeal and will serve a 3 match ban. HAPPY DAYS - although wet spam play agricultural football - We go for the WIN. SAINTS FANS have so many options for Tickets all of a sudden. Liverpool has been sold out - but Boro in the Cup Stoke at Home Hull and Wet Spam Away all available. There is still needle with Wet Spam after our Championship Battle to get Promoted. IT WILL BE A GOOD DAY OUT AND EVEN BETTER WITH AN AWAY WIN. EXPECT A WIN AGAINST HULL (like the night in the Championship) AND A BATTLE ROYALE vs SUNDERLAND. THE AWAY DAYS ARE ALWAYS A GREAT DAY OUT - A FEW BEERS GOAL CELEBRATIONS AND THE FIGHT FOR VICTORY. WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON. WE FIGHT TO GO ABOVE Newcastle and Manure. WE FIGHT FOR A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE AND THE CUP.

Score: 22

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH says...5:38pm Tue 4 Feb 14

FORGET DANI - MOVE ON. We wanted a 20 goal a Season Striker and to FIGHT FOR EUROPE. You cannot fault the AMBITION - but life in the Transfer Market is not as easy as when we were in the Championship and League One - and we spent the Money to get the best that was avaialble. Dani had been scoring plenty of goals and seemed to be worth a punt - although an element of risk with his Temper. A Good Goal against City. The Team is better balanced without him - SAM has a chance to develop and RICKIE is back on song. WE CANNOT UNDERESTIMATE SUNDERLAND AWAY. NO KELVIN. NO GULY. NO 2ND STRING PLAYERS. WE NEED OUR TOP PLAYERS TO GET A RESULT. OUR FANS - (ALTHOUGH STUCK HIGH IN THE GODS) WILL DRIVE US TO A FAMOUS WIN. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR

FORGET DANI - MOVE ON.
We wanted a 20 goal a Season Striker and to FIGHT FOR EUROPE.
You cannot fault the AMBITION - but life in the Transfer Market is not as easy as when we were in the Championship and League One - and we spent the Money to get the best that was avaialble. Dani had been scoring plenty of goals and seemed to be worth a punt - although an element of risk with his Temper. A Good Goal against City.
The Team is better balanced without him - SAM has a chance to develop and RICKIE is back on song.
WE CANNOT UNDERESTIMATE SUNDERLAND AWAY.
NO KELVIN. NO GULY. NO 2ND STRING PLAYERS.
WE NEED OUR TOP PLAYERS TO GET A RESULT.
OUR FANS - (ALTHOUGH STUCK HIGH IN THE GODS) WILL DRIVE US TO A FAMOUS WIN.
WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYRREDARMYRULETHESOUTH

FORGET DANI - MOVE ON. We wanted a 20 goal a Season Striker and to FIGHT FOR EUROPE. You cannot fault the AMBITION - but life in the Transfer Market is not as easy as when we were in the Championship and League One - and we spent the Money to get the best that was avaialble. Dani had been scoring plenty of goals and seemed to be worth a punt - although an element of risk with his Temper. A Good Goal against City. The Team is better balanced without him - SAM has a chance to develop and RICKIE is back on song. WE CANNOT UNDERESTIMATE SUNDERLAND AWAY. NO KELVIN. NO GULY. NO 2ND STRING PLAYERS. WE NEED OUR TOP PLAYERS TO GET A RESULT. OUR FANS - (ALTHOUGH STUCK HIGH IN THE GODS) WILL DRIVE US TO A FAMOUS WIN. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR

Score: 14

lowe esteem says...6:14pm Tue 4 Feb 14

milton road wrote…

You had best hope he shows he can score otherwise we are lumped with him. If he stayed at Saints its unlikely he would of gone to the world cup. In truth he couldn't lace RL's boots

would HAVE-otherwise got to agree with you.

[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote:
You had best hope he shows he can score otherwise we are lumped with him.
If he stayed at Saints its unlikely he would of gone to the world cup. In truth he couldn't lace RL's boots[/p][/quote]would HAVE-otherwise got to agree with you.lowe esteem

milton road wrote…

You had best hope he shows he can score otherwise we are lumped with him. If he stayed at Saints its unlikely he would of gone to the world cup. In truth he couldn't lace RL's boots

would HAVE-otherwise got to agree with you.

Score: 11

up saints says...7:33pm Tue 4 Feb 14

kiddynamite wrote…

Saints have been blagged into lending him till the end of the season. Hes crap, Juve wont keep him. The tosser will be back at saints for the summer holiday! Fact! Hes just a greasy muppet!!

i half agree with you but he is off the wage bill thats a start.time will tell

[quote][p][bold]kiddynamite[/bold] wrote:
Saints have been blagged into lending him till the end of the season. Hes crap, Juve wont keep him. The tosser will be back at saints for the summer holiday! Fact! Hes just a greasy muppet!![/p][/quote]i half agree with you but he is off the wage bill thats a start.time will tellup saints

kiddynamite wrote…

Saints have been blagged into lending him till the end of the season. Hes crap, Juve wont keep him. The tosser will be back at saints for the summer holiday! Fact! Hes just a greasy muppet!!

i half agree with you but he is off the wage bill thats a start.time will tell

Score: 4

Crossley Place Saint says...7:37pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Alicesdad wrote…

therealredarmy wrote…

Dani Osvaldo is smart he know it's World Cup year that's why he decide to take a pay cut and play for Juventus because he knows the Italian coach won't be bothered to watch any Italian in the EPL. Most of the Italian play in the Serie A anyway smart move for him. At the end of the loan he'll be back unless Saint decide to sale him on cheap in my opinion it's very unlikely that the we get 10 or 14 million for him ageing player, bad attitude very unlikely .

I can't help but agree. Juventus has taken his wage bill for the moment but I doubt they will buy him. They have already indicated that they couldnt pay the fee unless they sold someone. I'm not sure how that played out. Is it still a problem? It wont change bewteen now and May. I also doubt he could do a Puncheon and get back in our team. I expect he will return and we will off load him elsewhere, probably at significant loss. He may even end up being loaned out to various clubs ad infinitum - his reputation is going to be a major obstacle. Ironically the only way we could possibly do well out of this is if he plays brilliantly at Juve and shines at the world cup so oither teams come in with bids. Frankly the signs are not there that this will happen. I hope I'm wrong.

That's exactly my take on the situation. So I had a look at some Italian football websites to see how he was doing (Juventus are top of their league, and won their game at the weekend). I found that he did not play, because Juve have assessed him as seriously short of match fitness. As we have one of the best training facilities and sports science support, this can't be blamed on us. He must have been failing to train properly during the last few weeks when he was suspended. What a To$$er. Especially the $$.

[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]therealredarmy[/bold] wrote:
Dani Osvaldo is smart he know it's World Cup year that's why he decide to take a pay cut and play for Juventus because he knows the Italian coach won't be bothered to watch any Italian in the EPL. Most of the Italian play in the Serie A anyway smart move for him. At the end of the loan he'll be back unless Saint decide to sale him on cheap in my opinion it's very unlikely that the we get 10 or 14 million for him ageing player, bad attitude very unlikely .[/p][/quote]I can't help but agree. Juventus has taken his wage bill for the moment but I doubt they will buy him. They have already indicated that they couldnt pay the fee unless they sold someone. I'm not sure how that played out. Is it still a problem? It wont change bewteen now and May.
I also doubt he could do a Puncheon and get back in our team. I expect he will return and we will off load him elsewhere, probably at significant loss. He may even end up being loaned out to various clubs ad infinitum - his reputation is going to be a major obstacle.
Ironically the only way we could possibly do well out of this is if he plays brilliantly at Juve and shines at the world cup so oither teams come in with bids. Frankly the signs are not there that this will happen. I hope I'm wrong.[/p][/quote]That's exactly my take on the situation. So I had a look at some Italian football websites to see how he was doing (Juventus are top of their league, and won their game at the weekend). I found that he did not play, because Juve have assessed him as seriously short of match fitness. As we have one of the best training facilities and sports science support, this can't be blamed on us. He must have been failing to train properly during the last few weeks when he was suspended. What a To$$er. Especially the $$.Crossley Place Saint

Alicesdad wrote…

therealredarmy wrote…

Dani Osvaldo is smart he know it's World Cup year that's why he decide to take a pay cut and play for Juventus because he knows the Italian coach won't be bothered to watch any Italian in the EPL. Most of the Italian play in the Serie A anyway smart move for him. At the end of the loan he'll be back unless Saint decide to sale him on cheap in my opinion it's very unlikely that the we get 10 or 14 million for him ageing player, bad attitude very unlikely .

I can't help but agree. Juventus has taken his wage bill for the moment but I doubt they will buy him. They have already indicated that they couldnt pay the fee unless they sold someone. I'm not sure how that played out. Is it still a problem? It wont change bewteen now and May. I also doubt he could do a Puncheon and get back in our team. I expect he will return and we will off load him elsewhere, probably at significant loss. He may even end up being loaned out to various clubs ad infinitum - his reputation is going to be a major obstacle. Ironically the only way we could possibly do well out of this is if he plays brilliantly at Juve and shines at the world cup so oither teams come in with bids. Frankly the signs are not there that this will happen. I hope I'm wrong.

That's exactly my take on the situation. So I had a look at some Italian football websites to see how he was doing (Juventus are top of their league, and won their game at the weekend). I found that he did not play, because Juve have assessed him as seriously short of match fitness. As we have one of the best training facilities and sports science support, this can't be blamed on us. He must have been failing to train properly during the last few weeks when he was suspended. What a To$$er. Especially the $$.

Score: -1

DisplacedFan says...7:49pm Tue 4 Feb 14

I see Andy Pandy Carroll is still banned for three matches after the FA refused to change its ruling. Couldn't happen to a nicer manager. Doncaster Rovers loan out has come home to roost.

I see Andy Pandy Carroll is still banned for three matches after the FA refused to change its ruling. Couldn't happen to a nicer manager. Doncaster Rovers loan out has come home to roost.DisplacedFan

I see Andy Pandy Carroll is still banned for three matches after the FA refused to change its ruling. Couldn't happen to a nicer manager. Doncaster Rovers loan out has come home to roost.

Score: 4

Clever Dick says...8:16pm Tue 4 Feb 14

DisplacedFan wrote…

I see Andy Pandy Carroll is still banned for three matches after the FA refused to change its ruling. Couldn't happen to a nicer manager. Doncaster Rovers loan out has come home to roost.

It's a wonder they never gave him an extra game for a frivolous appeal. It was only handbags but he threw an arm and was about 3 meters from the ref. As they say at the fa if the referee saw it the decision stands. If he had played against us there would be a chance to directly compare him with Sir Ricky. So he's been done a favour as we all know who would come out on top. One's a proper player and one's a donkey. Now how much would I love to see the hoof struggling in the c/ship with their swanky new ground.

[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote:
I see Andy Pandy Carroll is still banned for three matches after the FA refused to change its ruling. Couldn't happen to a nicer manager. Doncaster Rovers loan out has come home to roost.[/p][/quote]It's a wonder they never gave him an extra game for a frivolous appeal. It was only handbags but he threw an arm and was about 3 meters from the ref. As they say at the fa if the referee saw it the decision stands. If he had played against us there would be a chance to directly compare him with Sir Ricky. So he's been done a favour as we all know who would come out on top. One's a proper player and one's a donkey. Now how much would I love to see the hoof struggling in the c/ship with their swanky new ground.Clever Dick

DisplacedFan wrote…

I see Andy Pandy Carroll is still banned for three matches after the FA refused to change its ruling. Couldn't happen to a nicer manager. Doncaster Rovers loan out has come home to roost.

It's a wonder they never gave him an extra game for a frivolous appeal. It was only handbags but he threw an arm and was about 3 meters from the ref. As they say at the fa if the referee saw it the decision stands. If he had played against us there would be a chance to directly compare him with Sir Ricky. So he's been done a favour as we all know who would come out on top. One's a proper player and one's a donkey. Now how much would I love to see the hoof struggling in the c/ship with their swanky new ground.

Score: 4

David Crook says...8:27pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Please please please,don't change the side this weekend,I mean don't keep Jack Cork out of the side,and keep Clyne at right back,Thanks.

Please please please,don't change the side this weekend,I mean don't keep Jack Cork out of the side,and keep Clyne at right back,Thanks.David Crook

Please please please,don't change the side this weekend,I mean don't keep Jack Cork out of the side,and keep Clyne at right back,Thanks.

Score: 2

Malcombe says...9:08pm Tue 4 Feb 14

My heart bleeds for Dani poor so so, does this mean he can only afford to buy a modest 3 bedroom semi detached house with one Bathroom on his monthly wages instead of 6 Bedroom and 2 Bathrooms oh and a Garage? let's hope he's as happy as a Pig in _ _ _ _ rather than the comforts of 5 star Hotel, I am feeling so sorry for him I can't stop crying. COYR

My heart bleeds for Dani poor so so, does this mean he can only afford to buy a modest 3 bedroom semi detached house with one Bathroom on his monthly wages instead of 6 Bedroom and 2 Bathrooms oh and a Garage? let's hope he's as happy as a Pig in _ _ _ _ rather than the comforts of 5 star Hotel, I am feeling so sorry for him I can't stop crying. COYRMalcombe

My heart bleeds for Dani poor so so, does this mean he can only afford to buy a modest 3 bedroom semi detached house with one Bathroom on his monthly wages instead of 6 Bedroom and 2 Bathrooms oh and a Garage? let's hope he's as happy as a Pig in _ _ _ _ rather than the comforts of 5 star Hotel, I am feeling so sorry for him I can't stop crying. COYR

Score: -1

S Pance says...9:20pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Outside of the Box wrote…

I reckon Juve will not take up the option, I don't know why but I've just got a feeling they wont.

Me too. I get the same feeling. Juventus will realise he's too much of a liability and want to return the 'damaged goods' to the vendor!

[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote:
I reckon Juve will not take up the option, I don't know why but I've just got a feeling they wont.[/p][/quote]Me too. I get the same feeling.
Juventus will realise he's too much of a liability and want to return the 'damaged goods' to the vendor!S Pance

Outside of the Box wrote…

I reckon Juve will not take up the option, I don't know why but I've just got a feeling they wont.

Me too. I get the same feeling. Juventus will realise he's too much of a liability and want to return the 'damaged goods' to the vendor!

Score: -2

Mr saint76 says...9:33pm Tue 4 Feb 14

S Pance wrote…

Outside of the Box wrote…

I reckon Juve will not take up the option, I don't know why but I've just got a feeling they wont.

Me too. I get the same feeling. Juventus will realise he's too much of a liability and want to return the 'damaged goods' to the vendor!

I think you're both right. Juve have history on this. In the past few seasons they took Bendtner and Anelka on loan. They hardly played both and when the loan finished they gave both back. This season they have Tevez and Lloriente as their main two who've just started to develop a great partnership. Unless they get injured he won't play many games. Then there is vucinic, giovinco and quagliarella.

[quote][p][bold]S Pance[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote:
I reckon Juve will not take up the option, I don't know why but I've just got a feeling they wont.[/p][/quote]Me too. I get the same feeling.
Juventus will realise he's too much of a liability and want to return the 'damaged goods' to the vendor![/p][/quote]I think you're both right. Juve have history on this. In the past few seasons they took Bendtner and Anelka on loan. They hardly played both and when the loan finished they gave both back. This season they have Tevez and Lloriente as their main two who've just started to develop a great partnership. Unless they get injured he won't play many games. Then there is vucinic, giovinco and quagliarella.Mr saint76

S Pance wrote…

Outside of the Box wrote…

I reckon Juve will not take up the option, I don't know why but I've just got a feeling they wont.

Me too. I get the same feeling. Juventus will realise he's too much of a liability and want to return the 'damaged goods' to the vendor!

I think you're both right. Juve have history on this. In the past few seasons they took Bendtner and Anelka on loan. They hardly played both and when the loan finished they gave both back. This season they have Tevez and Lloriente as their main two who've just started to develop a great partnership. Unless they get injured he won't play many games. Then there is vucinic, giovinco and quagliarella.

Score: 0

Baddesley Bill says...9:46pm Tue 4 Feb 14

David Crook wrote…

Please please please,don't change the side this weekend,I mean don't keep Jack Cork out of the side,and keep Clyne at right back,Thanks.

Probably best for the Manager to make that decision....since it is him undertaking training duties this week.

[quote][p][bold]David Crook[/bold] wrote:
Please please please,don't change the side this weekend,I mean don't keep Jack Cork out of the side,and keep Clyne at right back,Thanks.[/p][/quote]Probably best for the Manager to make that decision....since it is him undertaking training duties this week.Baddesley Bill

David Crook wrote…

Please please please,don't change the side this weekend,I mean don't keep Jack Cork out of the side,and keep Clyne at right back,Thanks.

Probably best for the Manager to make that decision....since it is him undertaking training duties this week.

Score: 3

Spudsaint says...9:47pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Oddsbaldo? What a complete nob. Knew he was trouble from the moment he pitched up looking like Johnny Depp's retarded younger brother. Cheerio!

Oddsbaldo? What a complete nob. Knew he was trouble from the moment he pitched up looking like Johnny Depp's retarded younger brother. Cheerio!Spudsaint

Oddsbaldo? What a complete nob. Knew he was trouble from the moment he pitched up looking like Johnny Depp's retarded younger brother. Cheerio!

Score: 0

bigfella777 says...10:50pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Ahh the poor love, my hearts bleedin for him, as others have said I reckon he will end up here again like an expensive Jason Puncheon.

Ahh the poor love, my hearts bleedin for him, as others have said I reckon he will end up here again like an expensive Jason Puncheon.bigfella777

Ahh the poor love, my hearts bleedin for him, as others have said I reckon he will end up here again like an expensive Jason Puncheon.

Score: 0

Baddesley Bill says...11:05pm Tue 4 Feb 14

bigfella777 wrote…

Ahh the poor love, my hearts bleedin for him, as others have said I reckon he will end up here again like an expensive Jason Puncheon.

But you support Brighton....which makes your comments on here seem really strange tbh.

[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote:
Ahh the poor love, my hearts bleedin for him, as others have said I reckon he will end up here again like an expensive Jason Puncheon.[/p][/quote]But you support Brighton....which makes your comments on here seem really strange tbh.Baddesley Bill

bigfella777 wrote…

Ahh the poor love, my hearts bleedin for him, as others have said I reckon he will end up here again like an expensive Jason Puncheon.

But you support Brighton....which makes your comments on here seem really strange tbh.

Score: 2

Stroppy_gramps says...7:38am Wed 5 Feb 14

I don't get why people are wasting so much emotion on Osvaldo. He did what he did and he's off on loan, hopefully never to return. the only emotion I shall expend is pity. It's a pity it didn't work out. job done, move on. We've got a far more exciting team to watch. It's great that Wanyama is back - clearly needs some game time again to get back to what he was doing before the injury. As others have said, it would be amazing to have both Wanyama and Cork on the pitch, one to defend and the other to attack. However, got to say - Gallagher..... superb. hopefully one more player that all the other teams are jealous of.

I don't get why people are wasting so much emotion on Osvaldo.
He did what he did and he's off on loan, hopefully never to return.
the only emotion I shall expend is pity. It's a pity it didn't work out.
job done, move on. We've got a far more exciting team to watch.
It's great that Wanyama is back - clearly needs some game time again to get back to what he was doing before the injury.
As others have said, it would be amazing to have both Wanyama and Cork on the pitch, one to defend and the other to attack.
However, got to say - Gallagher..... superb. hopefully one more player that all the other teams are jealous of.Stroppy_gramps

I don't get why people are wasting so much emotion on Osvaldo. He did what he did and he's off on loan, hopefully never to return. the only emotion I shall expend is pity. It's a pity it didn't work out. job done, move on. We've got a far more exciting team to watch. It's great that Wanyama is back - clearly needs some game time again to get back to what he was doing before the injury. As others have said, it would be amazing to have both Wanyama and Cork on the pitch, one to defend and the other to attack. However, got to say - Gallagher..... superb. hopefully one more player that all the other teams are jealous of.

Score: 1

TEBOURBA says...8:16pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Total waste of space, time and money --another of Cortese's sh*t decisions Saints are well rid of the pair of them!!

Total waste of space, time and money --another of Cortese's sh*t decisions Saints are well rid of the pair of them!!TEBOURBA

Total waste of space, time and money --another of Cortese's sh*t decisions Saints are well rid of the pair of them!!

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