Waiting for this exact thing. My favorite are the "label it" concern trolls. "I don't have anything against GMOs, and I eat them myself, but it just doesn't make sense that they won't label it guys. Don't we have a right to know?"

Thinking Machine super-computers and gene sequencers break down the strand in minutes. And virtual-reality displays show our geneticists the gaps in the D.N.A. sequence. We use the complete D.N.A. of a coffee bean to fill in the holes...and complete the....code!

Did I miss something? The headline says this machine saved chocolate, and goes on to explain how they sequenced the genome of chocolate plants without ever connecting the dots to say how it saved anything. Sure, the data in theory would be useful to determine which plants are more disease resistant, but it never said when or if the disease resistant plants have been identified. From what I read in the article the machine hasn't done jack shiat that's proven useful thus far and chocolate isn't $35 a bar simply because that's a fantasy scenario some guy made up for an article.

Rezurok:Did I miss something? The headline says this machine saved chocolate, and goes on to explain how they sequenced the genome of chocolate plants without ever connecting the dots to say how it saved anything. Sure, the data in theory would be useful to determine which plants are more disease resistant, but it never said when or if the disease resistant plants have been identified. From what I read in the article the machine hasn't done jack shiat that's proven useful thus far and chocolate isn't $35 a bar simply because that's a fantasy scenario some guy made up for an article.

Rezurok:Did I miss something? The headline says this machine saved chocolate, and goes on to explain how they sequenced the genome of chocolate plants without ever connecting the dots to say how it saved anything. Sure, the data in theory would be useful to determine which plants are more disease resistant, but it never said when or if the disease resistant plants have been identified. From what I read in the article the machine hasn't done jack shiat that's proven useful thus far and chocolate isn't $35 a bar simply because that's a fantasy scenario some guy made up for an article.

What he said, only in a more polite tone since I'm Canadian. I saw a lot of theory on how this could help, but no reference to it actually helping yet.

BigJT:Rezurok: Did I miss something? The headline says this machine saved chocolate, and goes on to explain how they sequenced the genome of chocolate plants without ever connecting the dots to say how it saved anything. Sure, the data in theory would be useful to determine which plants are more disease resistant, but it never said when or if the disease resistant plants have been identified. From what I read in the article the machine hasn't done jack shiat that's proven useful thus far and chocolate isn't $35 a bar simply because that's a fantasy scenario some guy made up for an article.

What he said, only in a more polite tone since I'm Canadian. I saw a lot of theory on how this could help, but no reference to it actually helping yet.

BigJT:Chocolate moose are hard to catch, particularly in the city whete they're more rare. To confirm the hypothesis that I'm not myself when I'm hungry, we may have to just wait until I've had breakfast.

You racist! Chocolate Mousse is a hero and I'll not have you speak of him as some sort of animal!

BigJT:Rezurok: Did I miss something? The headline says this machine saved chocolate, and goes on to explain how they sequenced the genome of chocolate plants without ever connecting the dots to say how it saved anything. Sure, the data in theory would be useful to determine which plants are more disease resistant, but it never said when or if the disease resistant plants have been identified. From what I read in the article the machine hasn't done jack shiat that's proven useful thus far and chocolate isn't $35 a bar simply because that's a fantasy scenario some guy made up for an article.

What he said, only in a more polite tone since I'm Canadian. I saw a lot of theory on how this could help, but no reference to it actually helping yet.

Waiting for this exact thing. My favorite are the "label it" concern trolls. "I don't have anything against GMOs, and I eat them myself, but it just doesn't make sense that they won't label it guys. Don't we have a right to know?"

Sure, but the problem is the rabid anti-GMO crowd who try like hell to kill anything GMO-related by claiming that it causes stuff ranging from cancer to wormdick (and you can guarantee there are those out there that'll believe it). Until you can basically kill the stupid it's kind of detrimental to label them. It'll happen sooner or later, but not i the near future I'd wager.

Waiting for this exact thing. My favorite are the "label it" concern trolls. "I don't have anything against GMOs, and I eat them myself, but it just doesn't make sense that they won't label it guys. Don't we have a right to know?"

Sure, but the problem is the rabid anti-GMO crowd who try like hell to kill anything GMO-related by claiming that it causes stuff ranging from cancer to wormdick (and you can guarantee there are those out there that'll believe it). Until you can basically kill the stupid it's kind of detrimental to label them. It'll happen sooner or later, but not i the near future I'd wager.

What we need is a timeline to set for GMO foods. If we go back one hundred years than JUST ABOUT EVERY THING would have to be labeled GMO.

Everything modified the day after tomorrow has to be labeled GMO including human babies.

They did the same thing to the wine plants in the Napa Valley a while back. A real bad strain of blight worked its way up the valley and essentially was taking over everything until researchers came up with a blight resistant root. Now all the plants have are spliced together with those roots.

Clash City Farker:They did the same thing to the wine plants in the Napa Valley a while back. A real bad strain of blight worked its way up the valley and essentially was taking over everything until researchers came up with a blight resistant root. Now all the plants have are spliced together with those roots.

Waiting for this exact thing. My favorite are the "label it" concern trolls. "I don't have anything against GMOs, and I eat them myself, but it just doesn't make sense that they won't label it guys. Don't we have a right to know?"

The story kind of tapers off after they sequenced the cacao plant's genome and doesn't say what they've done with the info if anything. But I got from the earlier part that the intent seemed to be to use the genome as an aid to crossbreeding. If so, then the result wouldn't qualify as a GMO.

Rezurok:Did I miss something? The headline says this machine saved chocolate, and goes on to explain how they sequenced the genome of chocolate plants without ever connecting the dots to say how it saved anything. Sure, the data in theory would be useful to determine which plants are more disease resistant, but it never said when or if the disease resistant plants have been identified. From what I read in the article the machine hasn't done jack shiat that's proven useful thus far and chocolate isn't $35 a bar simply because that's a fantasy scenario some guy made up for an article.

In addition to disease resistance, they'll also use this to remove bitterness. Remove bitterness.

Waiting for this exact thing. My favorite are the "label it" concern trolls. "I don't have anything against GMOs, and I eat them myself, but it just doesn't make sense that they won't label it guys. Don't we have a right to know?"

So about 12 years ago I took a class called "Sociopolitics of Science" and the other day I found a 50 page article I'd saved on GMOs. I guess I was planning on reading it in its entirety. Before I tossed it I skimmed it and what I found interesting was that it mostly focused on religious concerns. Quite a few major religions have restrictions on food or mixing of materials, which I could see being a major point for GMO labeling. Although, if you take a gene commonly found in a flax plant and insert it into a cotton plant, is it even a "flax" gene?