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Yup, and why aren't thin towers more popular? I only see builds with the seos waveguide.

Thin towers mean no waveguides and the majority of folks want maximum SPL for uncompressed dynamic swings from 0db to reference and beyond. Folks on here don't like dome or ribbon tweeters because they will compress and distort at 105db at the listening position.

Thin towers mean no waveguides and the majority of folks want maximum SPL for uncompressed dynamic swings from 0db to reference and beyond. Folks on here don't like dome or ribbon tweeters because they will compress and distort at 105db at the listening position.

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i see what you mean... ur right ..the thing to beware of is price ...a build like that could cost a pretty pen.. my budget..was $600.00 i just went over by a few dollars ...

I couldn't double up on tweeters or something? I've read problems with this though. I really dunno and the faqs are extremely confusing.

There aren't smaller waveguides? The size is such a turn off to me. It wouldn't even fit in in my room right now(small room). I just need a way to way to have aesthetic speakers lol.

Yup, and why aren't thin towers more popular? I only see builds with the seos waveguide.

Thin towers mean no waveguides and the majority of folks want maximum SPL for uncompressed dynamic swings from 0db to reference and beyond. Folks on here don't like dome or ribbon tweeters because they will compress and distort at 105db at the listening position.

Pretty broad generalizations. Lets just say that is often the case, and using well designed waveguides makes it easier to hit spl and dispersion goals.

Ya its going to be a big learning experience doing speakers. I listen to mostly music so having it hit spl targets is my goal.
My biggest concern with waveguides is the fact that if I ever used one, I'm basically saying I need a wide as hell tower. I just don't think I could do it, but when you say other tweeters have a harder time hitting spl targets its hard to not want to figure out a way to make it work.
I just wish I saw more slim aesthetic towers. Waf friendly towers I guess people would say on here. I also wish my current speakers had working tweeters but that's a whole other matter haha.

Are those MBQ XO's from an old set of their "Q" Speakers? I used to have them in my car. It should be noted that those drivers, if any of their parameters are different from the "Q" drivers, will require adjustments to the XO's. Did you make any changes to them? Should you want to take it a step further, a custom built XO would be a very logical and not crazy expensive step to take!

Are those MBQ XO's from an old set of their "Q" Speakers? I used to have them in my car. It should be noted that those drivers, if any of their parameters are different from the "Q" drivers, will require adjustments to the XO's. Did you make any changes to them? Should you want to take it a step further, a custom built XO would be a very logical and not crazy expensive step to take!

..hey yes i did makes some ...and they sound very good the slopes are where i like it..and they handle..lots of power ..well ...set them on 0bd..settings..

Why are those so much cheaper than the other wave guides and why do people not use these over traditional dome tweeters, including OP? Sorry if I'm thread highjacking, just trying to understand why most people don't go with builds similar to the OPs, which is the traditional tower I see for sale just about everywhere.

My guess would be that they are cheaper to produce because it uses less plastic than the bigger waveguides.

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why do people not use these over traditional dome tweeters, including OP?

Not a lot of people know about these waveguides but EricH is trying to spread the word, trying to get them to be popular with his low cost speaker kits and flat packs.

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just trying to understand why most people don't go with builds similar to the OPs, which is the traditional tower I see for sale just about everywhere.

I think most people here at AVS are into home theater. They want a speaker that has high sensitivity to reach reference (0db) with ease. Only way to do that is a with multiple small high sensitivity drivers or one high sensitivity driver that is 10-15". I think the other problem with a tower design is the way the speakers are lined up. Something to do with the center-to-center distance from the tweeter. I don't know much about speaker building so someone else will need to explain it better.

So much for asking you why you didn't pick that lol. EOS8 is only a dollar more too.

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My guess would be that they are cheaper to produce because it uses less plastic than the bigger waveguides.

Not a lot of people know about these waveguides but EricH is trying to spread the word, trying to get them to be popular with his low cost speaker kits and flat packs.

I think most people here at AVS are into home theater. They want a speaker that has high sensitivity to reach reference (0db) with ease. Only way to do that is a with multiple small high sensitivity drivers or one high sensitivity driver that is 10-15". I think the other problem with a tower design is the way the speakers are lined up. Something to do with the center-to-center distance from the tweeter. I don't know much about speaker building so someone else will need to explain it better.

It seems interesting to build one and for only probably 500 dollars I could get a pair that would trash my Polk Monitor 70 Series 2 (And I wouldn't have to wait for these god forsaken replacement tweeters), but I love having a tower. I wouldn't even know what to do if I got these speakers built. But for DIY it seems it's either this, or venture off into designing my own and I highly doubt I could do that lol. I hope he makes a tower build soon that uses multiple drivers or just a tower version of these speakers. It'd be extremely heavy though I guess if it was a tower version with 12 or 15 inch drivers lol.