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Art School Artists vs Self Taught Artists.

Alright! I've got some time on my hands and in this thread here: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=82287 We thought it was a good idea to get Self taught artists (like me) to go against those other people who went through Art School to fight it out in a T-Dome. To prove once and for all which way truly yields the best brand of artists. I thought it was a T-Dome that could get a wide variety of types on CA to participate because I take it we all learnt how to paint and draw somehow.

Topic: A real person from history from medieval civilisation i.e 300 A.D. to 1300 A.D. The person can be any type of character as long as he/she existed, and you can tell us some facts about him/her. Am looking for a full length portrayal of this famous or infamous person with something hinting to what he/she did/was. Refer to Velazquez's depictions of Aesop and Mennipus to see exactly what sort of image we're after. ONE image is all we're after, this competition is about which side of the divide has yielded the best, therefore we're only looking for your best work within these rules. COLOUR IMAGES ONLY!! too hard? hahaha. Also, your chosen figure is allowed to have extra's such as hat's, swords, a horse, as long as your extras were directly linked to your person's life, i.e if your figure was a mule tamer then since it explains who he was, he/she should be allowed to be painted with a mule. Don't get too extravagant though, or you risk disqualification. IF YOU SUMBIT A DRAWING, YOU WILL BE DISQUALIFIED.

1.On January 2nd I will open a new thread in the Challenge Arena and everyone will post their final, finished work in that thread. Ilaeake will then format these works to his hosting site and the judges will judge the 1 on 1 matches in this way.

2. Make sure when you submit your entry to the new thread you write a sentence saying who he/she was and what time span he/she lived in. Example:

Name (year of birth - year of death)
What they're known for.
A brief description of the person

Richard the Lionheart (1157 - 1199)
King of England, led the Third Crusade
Anti-semite, not too fond of that guy Saladin.

There will be a pool of one on one matches, pairing up Art School artists against Self Taught artists. The team who has the most victories across the board WINS!! Each individual effort counts to the tally of points for each team. So lets get some teams going
then!!

I've had three years of conventional schooling my entire life - kindergarten, third grade, and my freshman year of college. Am I on the self-taught team, or should there be a third one for art school dropouts?

i'm not sure where'd I fit in

The school I went to I would not consider an art school, but I was in their Studio Art program and I did recieve my BA from them back in 1999. And I've been correcting everything they taught me since then. I've had no real art instruction, ever, but I was taught theory until my eyes glazed over. The teachers had no respect for commercial grade skills, not having the skills themselves, and thus encouraged real crappy art to be produced. The senior thesis show was a joke, because you had to have a real good paper written and stapled to the wall next to your real crappy art project to explain it in Art-eese.

Not really taught the skills, just the theory behind them. In workshops we would be allowed to practice what we already knew. The teachers critiqued the theory for a piece, not the technical skills to produce it. Not a single one of them ever corrected my perspective problems, and one had us cut up coloring books to make collages, rather than have us actually draw anything.

If you've stepped foot into a Art university unfortunately for you, you are against my team, the go team, annnnd which means you're on team school. Zarett and Llothcat you're on team school. How about I mix things up and say that each singular challenge has a topic decided by the two participants and they work round that once they've told the judges. Because, I mean a win is a win and I'm just flipping out and mixing things up here. So once you know who you're facing you can choose you're own subject or go for the main one that I'll set soon. Once I use my creative gpowers to think of one...

Count me in Nerdlinger . Representing for the Self Taught team! My finals are on the week of the 15th though X_X.

Honestly though - the results wouldn't really be telling of anything conclusive, we would need at least 35 participants per team, according to standard statistician practice . Gotta make a bell curve :9.

ammm.....
if i`m drawing and painting since age 12, practically learning all that i know by trial and error, and at age 23 went to art school, didn`t finish it, and was bored and frustrated out of my skull since they didn`t teach me ANYTHING whatsoever (or they would ask me to "connect" myself emotionally to a given time-space occurrence while contemplating on kinetic-art and its meaning in modern living....) -

where do i fit in?

We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free.-Bill Hicks