So, This Is Why Hip Hop Can't Have Nice Things...

blame it on MekaSeptember 30, 2012

This video - courtesy of TMZ - is apparently the "controversial" madness that went down between Young Jeezy and Rick Ross' respective camps at this year's Source Awards Fish Fry BET Hip Hop Awards yesterday. We can go on and on about the two of them sending not-so-subliminals at each other in songs, videos, photoshoots, interviews, barbershop jibba jabba and the like, but the fact of the matter is that two grown men relatively deep into their thirties whose pockets are relatively dense thanks to a successful career in a musical genre that's difficult to make a decent living in, and thus should not even care what the next man says about them, instead head to an event that is supposed to celebrate their accomplishments and decide to settle their issues WWF-style. Gotta love it.

As a side note, do you know that we actually had seats at the awards because we got nominated? I would have loved to see the feminine, thick-bodied seat filler that took my place.

So, This Is Why Hip Hop Can't Have Nice Things... was last modified: November 11th, 2013 by Meka

I understand what you saying Meka, but both of them have sent some pretty personal shots at each other, especially when Ross talked about Jeezy not revenging his homie death, but he fact of the matter is BET invited a lot of the wrong people, why the fuck was G-Unit there, Joe & 50 should have ended their beef in NY not Atlanta, plus they put MMG, CTE, & G-Unit in the same building, shit was bound to go down.

t.bigums

They should have never gave them n****s money...don't know how to appreciate sh*t!!!

chuck

youre on point, good post.

this is the reason i have to turn my music down when im about ot pull into work. these assholes and others give hip hop a bad name

jd

This is the only reason BET holds these awards... for some bad publicity to cash in on. And these two irrelevant sh*tbags are more than happy to oblige.

@Mike Tomlin

"Team Jeezy"

LMFAO, Tomlin you a fucking cocksucker! Way to promote unnecessary shit you hoe ass nigga

thore

@chuck are you also too self conscious to enjoy chicken in front of white people in fear of what they might think you of you/ fucking uncle tom

i meet rick ross a couple months ago he was a nice dude i feel like people take advantage of his kindness jeezy still thinks hes moving cane fuck that nigga

inside information

Team Independent Thinking

jariz

annnnnnnnnnd theres dj khaled

Mike Diesel

Niggaz...

ianism

they hate each other because jeezy thinks ross is a fraud. cause he is - dude talks about selling coke when he doesn't.
but yeah. fuck BET. making Black Entertainment Television mean something entirely different. but we all knew that already. they don't play music vids by Common, The Roots etc because it's 'intelligent' music.

mecca f

-___- smh. this is why niggas can't have nice things tbh. i'm a nigga and these "rap gods" out here ruining it for everybody

"dude talks about selling coke when he doesn’t." you just described every gangster rapper from 2pac to nas.

ricky

@mecca f "this is why niggas can’t have nice things tbh"

wow what an original comment. wasnt expecting anyone to type that,..tbh

you can have nice things cause you're a sap. not because rick ross and jeezy shoved eachother. not because mexicans are beheading witness. not because whites are shooting up theaters and raping children. because you and you alone are a sap. nigga

gerg focker

@mecca f

no one is stopping you from having nice things gtfoh. if someone judges blacks based on the actions on 2 rappers then they are racist. stop trying to justify their ignorance and trying to impress the white man by demeaning your own race.

Mandingo

Just givin' white folks more to talk and laugh ay us about. "Look at those monkeys." Sausage fest eh?

Los

This is why I never liked white people in HIP HOP. DJ Drama played the I am just a white boy role and tip toed right away from it all, but will go and promote both of these monkies.

Mike Tomlin

Why hasnt that new Kendrick art of peer pressure joint been posted yet?

randy

smh black people calling other black people monkies. wow, slavery is still alive and well

randy

mandingo the same dude who said he doesnt like black women now calling blacks monkies. shit is tragic.

ruz

this aint got shit to do with hip hop....
this is RAP MUSIC bull shit
hip hop is about culture and there aint no culture in this

who cares

1) I ain't see Ross OR Jeezy, I just saw Drama and Khaled.
2) Even if it's just their respective camps, this shouldn't have gone down at the BET awards (not that I give a shit about them anyway)
3) co-sign koke. I was JUST about to put that shit lmao

Veracity

'Rick Ross' needs to calm himself... 'fo he catches another seizure or some shit... fuckin LIAR... still tryna validate his self-fulling philosophy of a REAL 'gutta nigga' I see...

@RANDY And since when was Pac a 'gangster rapper' [the term the predominantly white media heaped upon him] and since when did he spit about pushin weight/slingin 'cane ALL day long you muhfuckin provincialistic simpleton... go actually listen to some of his work you prejudice prick...

Co-sign @thore, @Eric Ryan @ricky and @gerg focker

An' @chuck I bet it's difficult to talk at work aswell... with the white mans dick CONSTANTLY in your mouth... PATHETIC.

@t.bigums That's the result of giving [ANY AND ALL artists who chat shit and purport falsity] fools money who perpetually lie in order to have and maintain a completely manifested PSEUDO-PERSONA based solely on the actions and life of an ACTUAL Kingpin... if your actually FROM the gutta I have absolutely NO problem with you documentin what you've seen and lived [or writing from the perspective of those around you, periodically]. But those that fabricate principally EVERYTHING both disrespect those that have indeed lived it (bangin, slingin, addiction, being broke etc.) and those that came from literally nothing and weren't given SHIT to build with (the TRUE soldiers), and resultantly continue to sustain counterfeit BULLSHIT scenarios like the above clip...

@mecca f “this is why niggas can’t have nice things tbh”
wow what an original comment. wasnt expecting anyone to type that,..tbh
you can have nice things cause you’re a sap. not because rick ross and jeezy shoved eachother. not because mexicans are beheading witness. not because whites are shooting up theaters and raping children. because you and you alone are a sap. nigga

ricky said this on September 30th, 2012 at 10:08 pm

^ talk to em..

"but yeah. fuck BET. making Black Entertainment Television mean something entirely different. but we all knew that already. they don’t play music vids by Common, The Roots etc because it’s ‘intelligent’ music.

ianism said this on September 30th, 2012 at 9:56 pm"

^ there would be no one watching bet if they played common and what not. yes it is intelligent, but is it ENTERTAINING? no it is not. end of the story. stop being sore losers smh

John Creasy

Co-sign @randy (times 2):

Precisely... TRAGIC.

Felipe Botucatu!

#ItsThaWorld Biatch !

Randy

@Verocity If anyone is being prejudice its people like you who criticize ross for doing and saying the very same things you give rappers like 2pac a pass for doing.

pac stomped out one man in vegas with 20 other people the night he died. but when ross and jeezy get into its just unnacceptable.

pac stole the name makaveli from a war strategist, calls himself a "don" and poses and dresses like a mobster in alot of his material, but ross does the same thing and he's "fake".

pac raps about shit he never did. Half of the shit he recorded on deathrow was full of violence, criminal escapadea, and mob shit.

"i got a sack of drugs had the block sewn up cause i learned to pack a gun"

at the end of the song "world wide mob figures" and reenacted driveby on all his enemies, catching mad bodies.

"make my enemeies deal with my steal, their caps pealed" which enemies did he ever kill?

the entire makaveli album is full of pac catching bodies. even songs like "outlaw" on me against the world are full of fairytales which never happened. How is that any different to rick ross telling tall tales? Yet you criticize ross and give people like pac a pass for being guilty of the exact same fabrications. ross was a CO, pac was a ballerina and used to strip on stage with blow up dolls.

I'm in it for the music, so personally i dont GAF how realy these guys are. But my problem is people like you who throw stones in glass houses and use double standards to justify your bias toward specific rappers.if you're going to hate on ross for rapping about a life he never lived, then do the same for 2pac, biggie, and every other rappers who stole their names and rapped about being drug king pins pushing weight and killing people

j

I don't get how niggas on here can say Rick Ross never sold coke like you know him personally. Dude was a CO not a police officer this nigga worked at a jail bruh. Yall don't know if he's fake or not at all and y'all act like jeezy is out here selling drugs as we speak. smh

who cares

@Randy - the difference between Pac and Ross is Ross was a pig. There's a difference between talking shit on record (what Pac did) and creating a false life for yourself (what Ross does) Ross was a cop but claims to be selling drugs and hanging out with "real gangsters" like he's in a gang or some shit.

ToolofGeorgiaBoys

@who cares, Ross wasn't a pig, I mean got damn how many police or fake jokes yall gonna make about Ross, the nigga was a CO not an officer for 9 months, Ross was basically a security guard, he still lived in the hood with the niggas who sold drugs, yall act like the nigga was arresting people.

Mandingo

@Randy get off my dick bra bra. Never said I didn't like black women they just aren't my favorite. There's plenty of red bones that will suffice.

Stupid faggot commercial rappers. These are grown men who have kids, acting like a couple of animals. Get over yourselves. Neither one of you are that great and you both are making more money than you should. These guys should be counting their blessings how lucky they are to be in the position they are in.

Mandingo

What's tragic is niggas on here with the nerve and audacity to try and defend Rick Ross fake ass. They can't be authentic niggas themselves. At least I keep shit 100.

Oregon

@who cares hold up hold up wait so when pac calls himself machaiavelli, reenacts scarface in his music video's and makes up raps about being a gun running mob boss, evading police in car chases and selling drugs to crooked cops it's "talking shit". but when ross does the exact same thing it's "creating a false life". That's hilarious. Hypocrisy at its best.

Oregon

People call game a stripper for allegedly being a stipper and rocking a tongue ring. Pac was documented to have stripped and hump blow up dolls on stage and rock a nose ring yet the same people who diss game say nothing about it. haha

Oregon

*people call game gay

the realest

^ lol get em

Mandingo

Pac gets a pass from me because I don't clearly understand how he ended up in that Death Row contract. I know Suge bailed him out but I tdon't hink Pac would of agreed if he knew what type of music he was going to have to do. But he did it, and he still never lost his self and continued to make his inspiring, knowledge-dropping, political awareness music. Pac did the gangsta shit because his contract stipulated it. Put it like this if he were here now running Makaveli Records as he planned he not be making "gangsta" music.

dave chappelle

^^^Yall are all fckin ignant and stupid. I swear people say the dumbest shit when they get behind a comp screen. Hilarious. Yall dudes are HILARIOUS.

the realest

"Pac did the gangsta shit because his contract stipulated it."

^ lmao wtf no he didnt. theres an interview out in youtube land talking about when he got out of jail he was gonna be so cold to the world in his music bcuz of the way he was depicted in the media. get off that niggaz nuts man. you and all the idealistic nerds that treat him as "the realest" nigga in hiphop history lol. get off the sack, please lol

Mandingo

Anybody comparing Ross to Pac are the ignorant ones. That's just blasphemy. Such ignorance should be punishable by death. Defending Ross yall niggas should have zero credibility after this shit.

Mandingo

These nigaas defending Ross are the same niggas faking it in their own lives. They look in the mirror and don't like what they see. Shit is quite the sad story.

Oregon

@Mandingo your point is invalid because pac was making "gangster" music before deathrow. Deahrow didn't help, but did you never hear the me against the world? If I die tonight? Outlaw The Thug Life Album? Pac gets a pass because you have sentimental bias towards him. Guys like Big and Pac gets a pass because you probably embraced him before you became old and overly critical.

Biggie said the most blasphemous shit i ever heard from a rapper. Blatant devil praise and shit, but Jay Z throws up diamond today and you come up with 1000 meanings as to why he is a satanist.

Biggie raps about fuckign niggas in the ass, sucking his girl's dad's dick and you call him a playa. But kanye wears leather and he's a faggot.

Biggie makes songs like "warning" somebody got to die, i got a story to tell, niggas bleed, another days another struggle writing made up stories and you call him a legend. Guys like Ross do the same thing and they are frauds.

Pac rush's orlando anderson 50 deep and spits at camera's and he's a g. Wayne is rude to during his deposition and he's setting us back. ross and jeezy push eachother and they are a disgrace to the black race.

You make excuses for pac as if he's not a grown man capable of making hisown decisions. If that was wayne in his Deathrow Contract position guaranteed you would label him a fake pussy or a bitch. but since its pac he gets a pass. smh

@Mandingo your point is invalid because pac was making “gangster” music before deathrow. Deahrow didn’t help, but did you never hear the me against the world? If I die tonight? Outlaw The Thug Life Album? Pac gets a pass because you have sentimental bias towards him. Guys like Big and Pac gets a pass because you probably embraced him before you became old and overly critical.
Biggie said the most blasphemous shit i ever heard from a rapper. Blatant devil praise and shit, but Jay Z throws up diamond today and you come up with 1000 meanings as to why he is a satanist.
Biggie raps about fuckign niggas in the ass, sucking his girl’s dad’s dick and you call him a playa. But kanye wears leather and he’s a faggot.
Biggie makes songs like “warning” somebody got to die, i got a story to tell, niggas bleed, another days another struggle writing made up stories and you call him a legend. Guys like Ross do the same thing and they are frauds.
Pac rush’s orlando anderson 50 deep and spits at camera’s and he’s a g. Wayne is rude to during his deposition and he’s setting us back. ross and jeezy push eachother and they are a disgrace to the black race.
You make excuses for pac as if he’s not a grown man capable of making hisown decisions. If that was wayne in his Deathrow Contract position guaranteed you would label him a fake pussy or a bitch. but since its pac he gets a pass. smh
The double standards are just amazing

Oregon said this on October 1st, 2012 at 1:02 am

^ my attorney. get em lol

the realest

real shit. tho.

DX

Pac was ALWAYS open and honest about what he was doing. He never hid shit. He was like okay the media wanna make me out to be a certain way so I'ma just run it. Anyone who thought he was a gangsta it was at their own fault. Fat Boy Ross denied being a C.O. even well after proof was all over the place. The nigga is a phony period. Don't even put that faggot in the same breath as Pac cuz he don't deserve it.

TruthHurtsNigga

A lot of feelings being hurt in here!

The double standard that is present in Rap is a fact. It's funny how Biggie & Pac have an untouchable status.

The fact is, they number of people they killed is comparable to the amount of coke Ross or Pusha T has sold. Fucking zero. Their entire persona is a complete fabrication.

the realest

@ dx

pac got murked. now get mad lol

DX

“Measure a man by his actions fully, from the beginning to the end. Don't take a piece out of my life or a song out of my music and say this is what I'm about, because you know better than that.” Yall dumb niggas with Ross' tities in ya mouth are just as bad as the media was back then. Goodnight

the realest

^lol cop out. cant argue with truth

DX

What's to get mad at? A pussy behind a cpu screen? Goodnight hope that karma that bite ya.

ToolofGeorgiaBoys

@DX you act lie you or Pac don't or didn't lie when an embarrasing situation came up, everyone lies about shit everyday, and how do you know Pac was ALWAYS open and honest? with all the unreleased coming out, it seems like the nigga hid a lot of shit, stop defending this man because he is dead, Pac is a liar, Ross is a liar, Jeezy is a liar, i'm a liar, you're a liar, we're all liars, get over the shit.

the realest

lol nigga pac rapped about fucking a mans wife for millions' entertainment. the nigga was no angel. stop falling for youtube videos lol.

Mandingo

Just cuz these niggas are liars everybody else gotta be a liar. FOH Go bump that Ross and keep learning how to fake it. Like I said yall can't be authentic no real nigga would be defending Ross and throwing dirt on Pac to do it.

julzthe49ersfan

Wheres Gangsta Gibbs at tho????

randy

I wouldnt have a problem with anyone hating ross if they also hated every other rapper for the same reason. instead they are selective with their hatred like a racist and give certain rappers a pass for doing the exact same thing. if you condemn one then condemn all.

all we ask for is for consistency in your logic.

Q

I gotta remind myself of the type of people that are usually on these blogs. Once I do that, then look at the time, it's not even worth it. Gotta be way outta touch to be defending Ricky.

ToolofGeorgiaBoys

@Mandingo name a rapper that has been 100% truthful in their music, Ross, Pac, Jeezy, Nas, Jay, Wayne, Pusha, Biggie, etc. if yall really that defensive about who's the realest rapper is then Drake the realest out, at least that nigga talk about shit that has actually happen, I don't if any of yall write raps, but when you're writing stories just come flowing out, I can write about selling drugs, even though I don't touch em, but at the end of the day it's just music, so STFU.

the realest

I gotta remind myself of the type of people that are usually on these blogs. Once I do that, then look at the time, it’s not even worth it. Gotta be way outta touch to be defending Ricky.

Q said this on October 1st, 2012 at 1:31 am

^ outta touch nigga #1. you aint gotta lie to kick it lol

greg focker

people arent defending ross they are just tired of bias haters acting like he's the first and only rapper to use someone elses name and exaggerate. either just accept that its just entertainment and stop bitching and hate everybody.

I literally didn't see anything in this video but people standing around and some occasional fast walking, as well as a cameo from Drama and Khaled. So what is this suppose to show again? Let's worry about the music, not bullshit that has no impact on any of our immediate lives.

marty mcfly

Pac was real and anybody who feel he was just acting one way but was some kinda fake nerd behind the scenes never really met Pac or even listen to what he was saying. Im not saying Pac was some super gangsta but I believe the things he was saying he really meant and was real about. Being real is what your supposed to be in the first place so why people act like its so out of the ordinary to be real? Not everybody wake up in the morning and put on some fake act everyday just for some street cred that really dont even matter outside they own city. Anybody that you dont think is real, just dont listen to they music. I really dont care who's real or fake cause at the end of the day they gotta live with themselves so none of us should even really give a fuck but when you got two multi millionaire black business men running around trying to prove how real they are just to get some kinda props from people who ultimately dont even really give a fuck. That shit just looks mad corny to imo. If you real, guess what? Its no big deal cause thats what your supposed to be in the first place.

Hold up! Ya'll can talk that fake shit about Pac, Biggie, Wayne, Jezzy, and Ross, but you need to keep Pusha T out of your mouth. If niggas really knew what the fuck they were talking about, you'd know that Pusha is the real deal. Don't just lump niggas in with your dick riding post about who is the "realest" when you don't know niggas. Pac did change up once he got on Death Row. Was he forced to? Who knows, but just the fact that he morphed into Super Thug means he most likely was making a lot of shit up. Biggie sold a little on the block, but his stories were just that - stories. Matter of fact, a majority of the niggas ya'll worship on these blogs are frontin' to sell records because ya'll stupid, uneducated, jock riding, Hip Hop since 2001 ass niggas don't know the history of this music. Bet you didn't know 2 Chainz got a college degree. Went to college on a basketball scholarship. Who the fuck has time to got to college, keep a 3.0, graduate and push hella keys? Niggas need to know the difference between reality and fantasy. Fantasy got these stupid niggas in Chicago thinking the only solution to problems is to kill somebody! Wake the fuck up, get in a book, stop jocking these make believe ass kingpins, and get your mind ready for what is coming in the near future. It saddens me that niggas are arguing over who's the "realist" when the niggas you think are real are DEAD! How real is that? Smh...

marty mcfly

As for fake gangster rappers like Chris Brown or even real ones like Jeezy, it dont even matter cause they dont represent every body from the streets. They just speak for themselves and a few different kinda characters the play certain roles in the street and thats about it. @realest, Common mite not be as entertaining as Ross but at least he dont run around acting like somebody he not.

^who said they were trying to prove how real they are though, what if they really had a problem with eachother, being rich has nothing to do with it, there the same people as when they were poor, you probably want them to change but it doesn't work that way

House Nigger

If I'm not mistaken, there's a difference between telling a story and pretending to be something you're not. A BIG difference.

^ eeehhh.. more/less. but this nigga trying too hard. he in left field by now. and dont sleep on 2 chainz. there could be a nigga serving you a mcdouble one minute, flippin some work the nxt. just cuz you aint seen it or, "it doesnt seem likely." doesnt mean it doesnt happen. but thats perfect sense and logic to a person ignorant to the case their talkin about. havnt seen magic work lol.

thats why niggaz just leave they best opinion on the matter, and keep it pushin.

marty mcfly

but before i go, just gotta profess my love for Jay-Z's chest muscles.

the realest

@ Akademo

the realest

@realest, Common mite not be as entertaining as Ross but at least he dont run around acting like somebody he not.

^ nigga you just said you dont care about a person being real or not... stop it.

marty mcfly

@random, No its cool if thats how they really feel they can fight or have a shootout or kill each other if thats what they wanna do. Im just pointing out that really nobody cares. The fans act like they care but really they dont so I dont see what the purpose is especially when both those niggas know how to go handle they business away from the cameras if thats how they really feel but at the end of the day. Only a small portion of hip hop fans actually really give a fuck if they real or not. Most the fans just want they rhymes and beats and dont give a fuck how real or not real they are so its no point for these rich niggas to front "IF" thats what they doing. @realest, no I get it cause people wanna hear the music and actually wanna know if the gangsta shit they hear is real or not but honest do you really give a shit? Probably not, thats just my opinion but I get it though

Jason

@Verocity, you don't think rapping about murder makes you a gangster rapper? Just because you know a couple handfuls of Pac songs that you don't even know the lyrics to doesn't give you the authority to get on any message boards and talk down to anyone. #educateyourself

marty mcfly

And the people that do give a fuck just think its funny as hell or their in the business of bringing people the news or promoting hip hop but thats about it.

random

@marty, wat im saying is if they have a problem they have a problem..it doesn't matter if nobody cares, there going to handle there business, its not there fault somebody pulled a camera out..jus so happens that there famous so its going to be a big deal...your saying they shouldn't fight because nobody cares? Lol what kind of logic is that? , if you want to fight somebody your not going to do it because nobody cares to watch? Lol no, the other people don't have anything to do with it

random

@marty, sounds like your basing what your saying off of the theory of there both trying to prove there real which can possibly be true but thats not nessacarily the case

^ im still trippin off this title. so yall nerds love it when you listening to tupac, ot old wu-tang and deathrow or big l, but once it happens in real life, "see, This Is Why Hip Hop Can’t Have Nice Things…" ol nerd ass crab ass niggaz. where the fuck yall go to school at?

spencer

Oh and who cares about fake rappers claiming they sell coke. What about the ones that USE it! hahaha. Coke and white bitches. Danny Brown or Gunplay snort more, go!

random

@therealest, same thing I was thinking, they love when the rappers rap about this stuff, but when it happens its a problem...but if it doesn't happen the rapper is fake, and you wanted to see it happen? Make up your minds lol

the realest

^ smh. then they run. any other time they going on and on about w.e. gangster rapper is being talked about at the moment. they gotta go and think about how all this fits into their bullshit ass logic

marty mcfly

@random, im not saying they shouldn't do whatever they wanna do but if you were in their position how much would you be willing to risk just to settle something that ultimately not many will even give a fuck about anyway. Thats really what im saying. I dont know what their beef is about but you got people thats trying to be like them. Well these niggas have been super rich for a long time so if they wanna do whatever then go ahead but its really alot of people that think they look like clowns for doing it. I understand they mentality and its all good but what im saying is sometimes people such as themselves need to realize that they made it already and they need to just mind they business. Now if they wanna beef then go ahead but lets say one of them ended up in a wheelchair and the other got 10 years in prison over this simple ass rap beef. How stupid would that look? Im just saying but niggas can do whatever they want, fools is just entertainment for the Donald Trumps and Mitt Romneys of the world as well as the young wannabes who look up to these guys. Its all good though im just saying one way it could be looked at. Personally if I was working with 20 plus million like these cats are I wouldn't even see no other niggas talking shit. For what? personal emotions, a misunderstanding, Street Cred? GTFOH

Ermac

Nobody gives a fuck what you think Meka, let these two riches bitches beat the living hell out of each other who gives a shit

@marty, if I were one of them and I had a personal problem I would have don't the same thing, and wouldn't care that I looked stupid because I would be a weak individual to care about what people think of me that don't know me, plus a little dispute like this most likely isn't going to hurt either of there pockets, if you spend 100,000 at a strip club weekly, does it matter if you get sued for 10,000? Lol no I would handle my business and not care what epople thought of me for doing so..you said they need to realize they made it an they made it an they need to mind there business, but this is there business lol and them "making it" doesn't change the fact they have beef, money doesn't change how you were raised

Johnie

Im glad they got into it, niggas love talkin shidd in front of a mic but get real quite when they face to face. but this probably wont get any bigger than this "shoving match"

and how/why did Pac get into this? lol yall niggas gotta chill

103

RIP to the mirror tbh.

Jeezy is on a whole different level to Ross, You ain't wanna be fucking with a certified BMF and a Duncan Blocc dude.
You ain't saw Ross doing hood videos.

chuck

@marty

see youre still short sighted. most hip hop fans dont care because they understand somewhat.

they other 80% of society sees this as a black eye for hip hop, and just another reason to put down the music and culture.

M0ns!er

I've read that 50 Cent and Gunplay were also fighting that evening.

Isayughh

grown ass men who have no regard to anyone or anything. Stupidity at it's finest.. SMH

merry

@103 stop misusing/overusing tbh. you sound like a complete tool

103

@merry shut the fuck up I'll say what I want tbh, You really got annoyed over my use of tbh you're the tool here.

war22

so Ross brought his friends(pigs) with him to back him up

Think first. Fuck 103

"You ain’t saw Ross doing hood videos."

So the BMF video, Hold Me Back and Hustlin WEREN'T taped in the hood? You dumb faggot

everybody stop being so fucking soft. you all want real rap back? who complained when it was east coast vs west coast? shut the fuck up with all your positivity. go listen to phish or something you fucking tree huggers

marty mcfly

Nobody complained when it was east vs west and the end result was some shit that niggas should learn from. @random, Pac didnt get sued, he got killed and the graveyard always got more room for niggas. its not about being hard or soft or real or not real its just about using common sense. These rappers have whole companies that employ people and also give money back to their charities. No need to flush all that down the toilet for nothing, thats not gangsta at all. Let the streets be the streets but dont be a super mainstream multi millionaire business man that aint even been in the streets living that life for more then a decade but yet still doin shit that make the culture look stupid.

random

@marty, this doesnt flush anything down the drain unless somebody gets killed, you say let the streets be the streets, but they are the streets, jus with money....your asking them to change who they are which is the most unreasonable thing to ask of somebody, and you keep saying it makes the culture look stupid...to who? white people?..they are the top consumers lol you mean to tell me it bothers you to know people that dont know you judge you because they see a coupe black people actin up on tv? that would make them ignorant to generalize, and you weak to care about what ignorant people think

Say what?!

'...Thanks to a successful career in a musical genre that’s difficult to make a decent living in...' Has absolutely no bearing on whether you personally clash with someone else or not?! What an utterly redundant and asinine comment... 'cus we ALL know that the streets are littered with millionaire Acid Jazz and Neofolk producers and artists?!... Err the WHOLE of the music industry's on its knees; an' if you aint mainstream pop [like the above candidates (Officer Ricky moreso)] and/or electro-dance [currently] its highly likely you ain't makin a fat lot anymore...

Real Recognize Real

@marty mcfly the world falls into 2 camps: those with principles and those without [you clearly fall into the latter 'pseudo-pragmatic' camp]... during the 'business' environment these
two opposing lines of thought manifest themselves... now if a man is willing to die for his principles then he has my respect; money is rendered irrelevant. There is no compromise and money does not alter/weaken/soften your ideals and as a man you can look yourself in the mirror, whether you in prison or indeed in a wheelchair [which some/many and no doubt yourself will claim that is utterly foolish which is cool and I can kinda see as to why you'd say that], and say you stood firm in your principled belief [without which a man is nothing]; rather that than lyin down and whorin yourself everyday just 'to be like' or 'at the table' or suckin the dick of a 'Donald Trump' or a 'Mitt Romney' which to me is both embarrassing AND pathetic... indeed some people will just do ANYTHING 'for money', 'cus of the money', 'but what about the money', 'think of the money', 'remember the money'... that shit often gives the weak i.e. those with money yet afraid of confrontation something to always fall back on and hide behind; thinkin they can't get touched or brought back into this realm: 'the money'. But when shit gets real, the weak rich get exposed, the shit hits the fan and when money don't matter that's when what you stand for bears ultimate relevance... paper doesn't make you invincible... paper can't always stop a fist or bullet... when its time to get REAL: fuck the money... it can't save you... that shit'll have you livin like a slave...

'It's better to live one day as a lion, than a thousand years as a lamb...'

Depends on what value you put on living and principles alike and where you draw the line with stupidity... I would take each scenario subjectively... but here, it has no relevance...

Veracity

@Jason 'Just because you know a couple handfuls of Pac songs that you don’t even know the lyrics to doesn’t give you the authority...' Three-fold: [1. I am educated *sigh*...] 2.That right there is an inherent contradiction [like ya boy Pseudo-Ross]... if I knew the songs, deductive inference would logically dictate that I would consequently know the lyrics too?!... fool #goeducateYOURSELF and #learnhowtoreason i.e. how simple dedcutive logic works... and 3.You can be a murderer and not necessarily
be a gangster... you would have to be in a recognized 'gang' to be a GANGster... it is NOT a logical necessity to be a gangster if you murder; 'gangster' and 'murderer' are not logically inclusive... every gangster is NOT a murderer and every murderer is NOT a gangster... fool... pity your logic is SO POOR... logic IS your downfall... try again...

#thoughthewascleverandendeduplookinglikeawasteman

In addition its @verAcity not @verOcity... [but verocity is kinda like a portmanteau of ferocious veracity which is also sensible in this instant]... GO EDUCATE YOURSELF AGAIN...

marty mcfly

@random, I didnt say not to do whatever they fuck they want. I said they can go ahead and do it. I never said they should worry about what other people think, I implied they should just think period especially about their own life. See what people like you assume is that if someone who has worked hard to earn a respectable position in life, and then chooses to not trip off certain bullshit that somehow they must be weak or cowardly. Rick Ross is not the voice of the streets entirely and neither is Jeezy, they are representatives of certain elements from the streets but they do not represent everybody in them. Again niggas can do whatever they want to do, what I said was just another perspective. @real recognize, now you said if a man is willing to die for his principles then he has your respect. I agree to a certain degree but I also think staying alive is also respectable. If Pac would have just ignored that dumbass nigga in Vegas that prolly really wasn't about shit anyway, he would still be alive and therefore would also still have his respect. Nas has a great line in his song Money Over Bullshit where he said - Join me in war, many will live, many will mourn
+Money Over Bullshit+, pistols over brawn
Afraid not of none of you cowards but of my own strength
Afraid not of none of you cowards but of my own strength

This means that though he doesn't seem confrontational and probably wont get all loud in public or start some shit. Dont get it twisted because the real reason he's like that is not cause he's a "lamb" as you put it but because he most likely knows that he will react in a way that will surely destroy the other person if shit ever did get outta hand, thus putting his own life in jeopardy. Its not about the money entirely, even though one should consider their position in life before just acting and its not about a rich person hiding in fear or trying to become friends with a rich white man for more status. Again its simply just about using some common sense. When the Mob was running around a few decades ago the bosses had earned enough money power and respect to do whatever they wanted in america but in most cases it was the own overreactions to situations that caused their demise. Usually its the quiet person who really aint trippin unless he has no other option that usually makes it to the end without losing his life or the life of the people around him. Just saying

Your Mother’s Dinner Date

I woulda just shot em

alloy

DJ Drama really is not about drama

Veracity

@Randy Hmmm... that's interesting... nice extrapolation there *slow hand clap*... I'll be sure to look-out for the 90s archive footage of Pac where he wore period-correct, Italian Renaissance clothing, pronounced himself Niccolò and began talking with a Florentine accent?!?!... 'cus we all know Pac 'robbed' EVERY facet of the 'Renaissancian', War-strategist's life when he adopted the allonym/alias; like ya boy Pseudo-Ricky does with his persona-donor(s)...