And Garza, we were all laughing at his asking price and knowing you pretty much have the heaviest built rig on this section of the forum I was saying you'd probably be lucky to pull $25K from yours and as you can see from the link above, it's a slightly different beast. LOL

I have a prediction for the trail run that Powr is putting together in the other thread.

Powr is going to back out at the last second. He will have traded his TJ and a little cash to a JK owner. On the way to pick up the JK, he will fall asleep behind the wheel and crash into a tractor-trailer full of kittens. The kittens will escape un-harmed but will all be turned into roadkill. The blood and guts all over the road will cause a bus full of handicapped children and Nun's to lose control and crash into a power sub-station combined with a huge explosion that can be seen from space. Half the valley will lose power causing more buses to crash into each other at intersections in firey explosions. The resulting explosions will be enough to change the rotation of the Earth and the poles will swap. All life on the planet will be destroyed and we will all have Powr to blame. Way to go Powr. You single-handedly made the mayan prediction come to pass.

Yeah, and if I remember, Khris listed his for like 16 or 18, and ended up selling for half that? I have no illusions on what it's worth! I'm not selling because I found the next best thing. I'm totally happy with mine, BUT my family of four just doesn't fit in a TJ, at least if we wanna bring anything on a trail with us! Everyone here thinks they are so clever and always correct in their interpretations on everyone else's thoughts and ideas. In reality, none of us have any clue what everyone else's motivations are. This forum has gone from a friendly chat and trail discussion to a pubescent bickering fest! Everyone here can agree on some friendly ribbing and teasing, but its seriously gotten out of control. No wonder Ysb and polka got sick of the childish crap repeated over and over!
Do I honestly believe my rig is worth/ will sell for 25k? Now read very carefully here-> NO WAY IN HELL! However, if someone is willing to pay that, awesome(again for the fourth time) I realistically see me taking my lights and OBA off and trading it to a dealer on a new one, as I'll get more value for it that way. None of us start a build or finish a build with the intentions of getting what we pay for it when we sell. If that's your plan, go back to school, because you obviously don't understand depreciation!
BTW, I HAVE seriously considered and researched cargo ideas, and this is what I've come up with. If I do a receiver rack on top o the spare tire, I've got room for a cooler, and my camera bag. A roof top rack gives more cargo, but they're expensive and top heavy. A trailer either built by myself or bought will be at least 500-1000, depending on what it is and how it's built. Then annual registration added in(minuscule, but another bill) plus tires. A TJ doesn't tow a trailer very well. It will do it, but doesn't like it(EVERYONE on here(except me) complains about the performance of the TJ on freeway hills without a trailer)
Long story short, use some common sense and think about what your responses will be before you judge somebody's posts. We've all nailed to the cross multiple times(must be feeling like Jesus caught in Groundhog Day by now) but he made a mistake and found a way to correct it. It happens, and we all have our own routes to get to our goals. We can't all build our own rigs like Khris, and we don't have unlimited funds like some here seem to. Instead of a pissing contest, this should be a supportive and constructive arena, but has fallen way short of that!

The difference between stupidity and ignorance. Ignorance is doing something wrong and not knowing better. Stupidity is knowing better, but doing it anyway. Don't be stupid!

I have a prediction for the trail run that Powr is putting together in the other thread.

Powr is going to back out at the last second. He will have traded his TJ and a little cash to a JK owner. On the way to pick up the JK, he will fall asleep behind the wheel and crash into a tractor-trailer full of kittens. The kittens will escape un-harmed but will all be turned into roadkill. The blood and guts all over the road will cause a bus full of handicapped children and Nun's to lose control and crash into a power sub-station combined with a huge explosion that can be seen from space. Half the valley will lose power causing more buses to crash into each other at intersections in firey explosions. The resulting explosions will be enough to change the rotation of the Earth and the poles will swap. All life on the planet will be destroyed and we will all have Powr to blame. Way to go Powr. You single-handedly made the mayan prediction come to pass.

This actually made me chuckle! Who would have known if find my place in history after all, oh wait, there would be no history after that!

The difference between stupidity and ignorance. Ignorance is doing something wrong and not knowing better. Stupidity is knowing better, but doing it anyway. Don't be stupid!

Jeebus, i dont know whether to sit back and watch the drama unfold, or to make a comment about how i just listed my wagoneer for $12,000

-Andrew

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Ted weins offers lifetime alignment. Took mine there for one and they didn't even accept money, Sao it was straight, and didn't want to charge since they didn't do anything. Once mine is out far enough, I'll take it there, after I get the JK that is. They seem pretty honest and respectable.

The difference between stupidity and ignorance. Ignorance is doing something wrong and not knowing better. Stupidity is knowing better, but doing it anyway. Don't be stupid!