See, this is white guilt. It irritates me to no end. Everyone tells black people to stop worrying about race, but many of you mother fuckers play "Where's Black Waldo" worse than any black person I know.

Stop perpetuating the bullshit.

This country hates because of religion, political views, sexual orientation and other stupid ****. The fact a bunch of people goose-step because it is race is fucking stupid. It's the dumbest **** in the world. The same mother fuckers that hate him because he is black pulled the same **** with Reagan, Bush and Clinton for equally dumb ****.

I hate when black people play the race card and I hate it more when white people play it for them.

Believe me, white guilt doesn't factor into it at all for me. I think I am calling a spade a spade in this case. Based on reading the **** these guys say on message boards.

What country are you from, where politicians participate in no doublespeak and always work together? I'd like to move there.

Germany. We suffer from doublespeak as well but to an different degree. When it comes to handling the crises no political party dares to block anything (and yes the opposition had this option in the last 4 years but would not even consider it). Our politicians are crap as well but they at least have some interests in keeping the system that feeds them going. Nobody in the US profits from the US government shutting down so the whole thing is just madness from an outside perspective.

Our politicians are crap as well but they at least have some interests in keeping the system that feeds them going.

The system is still going. These idiots still draw a paycheck, it is the others that are being affected. If the shutdown included their income, some of them would be in trouble. I say some because quite a few draw salaries from other means.

Germany. We suffer from doublespeak as well but to an different degree. When it comes to handling the crises no political party dares to block anything (and yes the opposition had this option in the last 4 years but would not even consider it). Our politicians are crap as well but they at least have some interests in keeping the system that feeds them going. Nobody in the US profits from the US government shutting down so the whole thing is just madness from an outside perspective.

I agree that it is madness, I just think it's a fantasy to believe that the US is the only place with crazy politicians.

That doesn't mean all craziness is equal, or justifies the craziness of your politicians, or any ones for that matter.

First of all, no one is trying to justify anything. Second, I think it's disingenuous to decide that the craziest moment in American politics in recent memory proves all by itself that American politics are uniquely crazy.

Originally Posted by goodlun

I think your wrong, the people in these districts are not outraged.

I think some of them are now, and some more of them will be when this all comes to nothing. But I guess we'll see next year.