That's right- this guy has been around for years and years and is THE expert on shooting. Kobe and Ray Allen have used him, and THEY SHOOT VERY WELL before having even met him!!! Repeatedly they've used Hopla.

I wonder how many times (precious) Rajon Rondo has made this guy's phone jangle and gotten out the checkbook for some help? I'm going out on a limb and saying exactly zero times. Just been too busy. I mean he did just come off of a year's worth of rehab when a guy like Hopla could have re-engineered his shot into a big time NBA weapon............... right? or just too darn busy to do the work? barely 40% FG, 64% FT and 25% 3's really says it all

I'm so sick of the Rondo hate in here...this is one of the most ill-informed Rondo posts ever. The argument is: because he hasn't called this one guy, he hasn't worked on his shot. Ridiculous. And because you hate him, then you assume he hasn't adjusted his shot.

Fact: some guys will never be great shooters. Fact: you can improve if you work on it. Fact: that's exactly what Rondo has done. Fact: Rondo has adjusted his shot technique via coaching. Fact: while recovering from surgery, Rondo worked hard on his jump shot.

“When you get hurt, especially somebody like Rondo, his quickness wasn’t all the way there, so the biggest thing in workouts was, he was getting a lot of jump shots up,” Sullinger said. “I think all those reps really helped him out. He (used game-like conditions), and I think that carried over."

"

Celtics assistant Ron Adams fiddled with Rondo’s shot, just as Adams did with Avery Bradley. Rondo even told reporters that he told Adams he wanted “to shoot like Avery,” who was hitting 38 percent of his corner threes before his injury. Brad Stevens is just happy to see players utilizing Adams, who is known for more than just his defensive mind."

There's plenty more in that piece for you to absorb which directly contradicts your rampant speculation.

Rondo has played well here for where he was drafted, played through injury and on a very reasonable contract. Yes, he should be traded now and he doesn't deserve a max deal, but he's far from the nonchalant loser you make him out to be. He's accomplished more than most people who throw him under the bus here.

And yet whenever someone throws Big Baby on the bus, who has had a mediocre NBA career in comparison, you get all worked up. c'mon...

I'm so sick of the Rondo hate in here...this is one of the most ill-informed Rondo posts ever. The argument is: because he hasn't called this one guy, he hasn't worked on his shot. Ridiculous. And because you hate him, then you assume he hasn't adjusted his shot.

Fact: some guys will never be great shooters. Fact: you can improve if you work on it. Fact: that's exactly what Rondo has done. Fact: Rondo has adjusted his shot technique via coaching. Fact: while recovering from surgery, Rondo worked hard on his jump shot.

“When you get hurt, especially somebody like Rondo, his quickness wasn’t all the way there, so the biggest thing in workouts was, he was getting a lot of jump shots up,” Sullinger said. “I think all those reps really helped him out. He (used game-like conditions), and I think that carried over."

"

Celtics assistant Ron Adams fiddled with Rondo’s shot, just as Adams did with Avery Bradley. Rondo even told reporters that he told Adams he wanted “to shoot like Avery,” who was hitting 38 percent of his corner threes before his injury. Brad Stevens is just happy to see players utilizing Adams, who is known for more than just his defensive mind."

There's plenty more in that piece for you to absorb which directly contradicts your rampant speculation.

Rondo has played well here for where he was drafted, played through injury and on a very reasonable contract. Yes, he should be traded now and he doesn't deserve a max deal, but he's far from the nonchalant loser you make him out to be. He's accomplished more than most people who throw him under the bus here.

And yet whenever someone throws Big Baby on the bus, who has had a mediocre NBA career in comparison, you get all worked up. c'mon...

I'm so sick of the Rondo hate in here...this is one of the most ill-informed Rondo posts ever. The argument is: because he hasn't called this one guy, he hasn't worked on his shot. Ridiculous. And because you hate him, then you assume he hasn't adjusted his shot.

Fact: some guys will never be great shooters. Fact: you can improve if you work on it. Fact: that's exactly what Rondo has done. Fact: Rondo has adjusted his shot technique via coaching. Fact: while recovering from surgery, Rondo worked hard on his jump shot.

“When you get hurt, especially somebody like Rondo, his quickness wasn’t all the way there, so the biggest thing in workouts was, he was getting a lot of jump shots up,” Sullinger said. “I think all those reps really helped him out. He (used game-like conditions), and I think that carried over."

"

Celtics assistant Ron Adams fiddled with Rondo’s shot, just as Adams did with Avery Bradley. Rondo even told reporters that he told Adams he wanted “to shoot like Avery,” who was hitting 38 percent of his corner threes before his injury. Brad Stevens is just happy to see players utilizing Adams, who is known for more than just his defensive mind."

There's plenty more in that piece for you to absorb which directly contradicts your rampant speculation.

Rondo has played well here for where he was drafted, played through injury and on a very reasonable contract. Yes, he should be traded now and he doesn't deserve a max deal, but he's far from the nonchalant loser you make him out to be. He's accomplished more than most people who throw him under the bus here.

And yet whenever someone throws Big Baby on the bus, who has had a mediocre NBA career in comparison, you get all worked up. c'mon...

Spanky's cautious appreciation of "facts" reminds me of the way Tony Stewart drives on the dirt track circuit.

He's accomplished more than most people who throw him under the bus here.

Perhaps the dumbest thing I've ever read on this forum. What has Rondo accomplished? Oh, he can play a game, basketball. Eureka!! That puts him at the front of the line, what a special guy.

Those other less accomplished people, like the single parent working 3 jobs making peanuts to support children, school etc dont measure up because they dont make millions playing a game.

You're starry eyes fawning over Rondo is repulsive. I'd consider Rondo a very fortunate person he has the ability & talent to make big money playing a game. That "accomplishment" is no greater than a driven school teacher honing his/her skills to be great at what they do or any other profession for that matter. Get your head out of your @$$.

I'm so sick of the Rondo hate in here...this is one of the most ill-informed Rondo posts ever. The argument is: because he hasn't called this one guy, he hasn't worked on his shot. Ridiculous. And because you hate him, then you assume he hasn't adjusted his shot.

Fact: some guys will never be great shooters. Fact: you can improve if you work on it. Fact: that's exactly what Rondo has done. Fact: Rondo has adjusted his shot technique via coaching. Fact: while recovering from surgery, Rondo worked hard on his jump shot.

“When you get hurt, especially somebody like Rondo, his quickness wasn’t all the way there, so the biggest thing in workouts was, he was getting a lot of jump shots up,” Sullinger said. “I think all those reps really helped him out. He (used game-like conditions), and I think that carried over."

"

Celtics assistant Ron Adams fiddled with Rondo’s shot, just as Adams did with Avery Bradley. Rondo even told reporters that he told Adams he wanted “to shoot like Avery,” who was hitting 38 percent of his corner threes before his injury. Brad Stevens is just happy to see players utilizing Adams, who is known for more than just his defensive mind."

There's plenty more in that piece for you to absorb which directly contradicts your rampant speculation.

Rondo has played well here for where he was drafted, played through injury and on a very reasonable contract. Yes, he should be traded now and he doesn't deserve a max deal, but he's far from the nonchalant loser you make him out to be. He's accomplished more than most people who throw him under the bus here.

And yet whenever someone throws Big Baby on the bus, who has had a mediocre NBA career in comparison, you get all worked up. c'mon...

you just threw big baby under the bus and i don't give a crap. the difference is that rondo had potential to be all league and davis did not and does not. and now rondo doesn't either.

you can't half asse it around for eight years and then suddenly figure you're just going to "give a good hard try" starting now.

auerbach traded maxwell away for sandbagging it after one year of that song and dance. granted max had actually accomplished a few things in his career before he decided he only wanted to play for the playoffs. but rondo has bee that day since day one. bored with a game that he has never bothered to master.

and give me a BREAK on the excuse of "he has played well for where he was drafted" trash. he has played exactly DOWN to expectations that he was a head case and couldn't shoot. the great ones get over that. plenty of people had trouble shooting when they came in the league. magic wasn't the best. jason kidd stank. but most all became functional and all star level and were not stat stuffers like rondo has become.

tubby used to sit rondo's heiney on the bench when he got to be a head case or his lack of shot was on vulgar display. it was an incentive to improve. then comes danny who declares a rookie rondo, fresh off of okay results of 20 games of extended garbage time PT the "starter of our future", without a J, without the free throw shot under his belt.

here we are 8 years later, without a J, and without the free throw under his belt

hey karl, thanks for the social commentary. your message would be more readily received if it weren't for your heavy handed bully approach. and do pardon rondo for rising to the top of his trite profession while our public education system is overrun with mediocrity.

hey karl, thanks for the social commentary. your message would be more readily received if it weren't for your heavy handed bully approach. and do pardon rondo for rising to the top of his trite profession while our public education system is overrun with mediocrity.

bp

what pray tell is that drivel about? we're supposed to be proud of rondo because public school systems across the land stink? what is the correlation?

I've said this a million times. Rondo can shoot when the pressure's off (see horse game vs Durant). He just needs to get off a lot of shots to work through his mental block.

This couldn't happen during the big three era, and last year he was hurt too much of the season. But if he can get enough shots off to work through the nerves, I think he's actually a pretty good shooter.

hey karl, thanks for the social commentary. your message would be more readily received if it weren't for your heavy handed bully approach. and do pardon rondo for rising to the top of his trite profession while our public education system is overrun with mediocrity.

bp

rondo is more analogous to a teacher who might have great knowledge of a topic but only mildly competent at teaching it. the net result is a huge let down. and so it was.

I'm so sick of the Rondo hate in here...this is one of the most ill-informed Rondo posts ever. The argument is: because he hasn't called this one guy, he hasn't worked on his shot. Ridiculous. And because you hate him, then you assume he hasn't adjusted his shot.

Fact: some guys will never be great shooters. Fact: you can improve if you work on it. Fact: that's exactly what Rondo has done. Fact: Rondo has adjusted his shot technique via coaching. Fact: while recovering from surgery, Rondo worked hard on his jump shot.

“When you get hurt, especially somebody like Rondo, his quickness wasn’t all the way there, so the biggest thing in workouts was, he was getting a lot of jump shots up,” Sullinger said. “I think all those reps really helped him out. He (used game-like conditions), and I think that carried over."

"

Celtics assistant Ron Adams fiddled with Rondo’s shot, just as Adams did with Avery Bradley. Rondo even told reporters that he told Adams he wanted “to shoot like Avery,” who was hitting 38 percent of his corner threes before his injury. Brad Stevens is just happy to see players utilizing Adams, who is known for more than just his defensive mind."

There's plenty more in that piece for you to absorb which directly contradicts your rampant speculation.

Rondo has played well here for where he was drafted, played through injury and on a very reasonable contract. Yes, he should be traded now and he doesn't deserve a max deal, but he's far from the nonchalant loser you make him out to be. He's accomplished more than most people who throw him under the bus here.

And yet whenever someone throws Big Baby on the bus, who has had a mediocre NBA career in comparison, you get all worked up. c'mon...

I've said this a million times. Rondo can shoot when the pressure's off (see horse game vs Durant). He just needs to get off a lot of shots to work through his mental block.

This couldn't happen during the big three era, and last year he was hurt too much of the season. But if he can get enough shots off to work through the nerves, I think he's actually a pretty good shooter.

so he's a choker. he has had some CLUTCH moments over time but in general just not up to the task of mastering basic skills.

we saw him looking to shoot this last year coming off his injury and he had a few good games and then knitting needles in your eyes for LONG periods of time and barely managed to stat stuff back up to 40% FG overall.

my main point is that this is terrible result for a veteran who just had FREE TIME (was paid for that too!) on his hands to practice TENS OF THOUSANDS of no pressure shots and work on shot mechanics.

then that leads into the next issue- he is not worth 12, 13 or 15 million with the football bat shot. arguably he's not worth 10M. being clutch for a little while in the playoffs and then falling flat back into "can't throw it in the ocean" mode and "playing scared" (of taking a free throw) is just not something a rebuilding team can take.

maybe see if a sucker like cuban is willing to roll the dice with rajjie.

so when anyone performs a critique of rondo then it's glen davis' fault? davis was drafted low because he could never quit being a blimp at LSU. and he was ground-bound. in his professional life davis became a rare 2nd round success because he kept his weight down. he never quit being ground bound but did a few other things well enough to stick in the league.

so rondo's not being able to master stepping into a basic J and shooting a free throw is davis' fault? or somehow analogous to davis BEING ABLE to keep the weight off (for the most part) and sticking in the league? rondo came with a lot more hoopla than davis and more "potential" if any of you rondo fan girls can remember. the difference was that tubby smith sat his precious behind down when he was seen as a liability to the team.

enter danny ainge- "he's the starter of our future" (with no pre-conditions on ANY competency levels on basic shooting). unprecedented talent mismanagement of talent. which is nothing new in the ainge era.

rondo for is part has done nothing to improve beyond his freshman year competency at free throws of 64%- a miserable stat for a point guard that reeks of total unreliability in the clutch. and he's still a crap shoot in the clutch eight years later. but that's davis' fault. or my fault. right? don't you dare "HATE" on my rondo!!

rondo is more analogous to a teacher who might have great knowledge of a topic but only mildly competent at teaching it. the net result is a huge let down. and so it was.

i'm just glad you were able to get all caught up.

bp

thanks! i normally only look for obtuse comparisons from the rondo adulation squad. like rondo somehow ties in with glen davis' career accomplishments. and all of that is somehow my fault. sorry for looking too far into the forest on that one

I'm so sick of the Rondo hate in here...this is one of the most ill-informed Rondo posts ever. The argument is: because he hasn't called this one guy, he hasn't worked on his shot. Ridiculous. And because you hate him, then you assume he hasn't adjusted his shot.

Fact: some guys will never be great shooters. Fact: you can improve if you work on it. Fact: that's exactly what Rondo has done. Fact: Rondo has adjusted his shot technique via coaching. Fact: while recovering from surgery, Rondo worked hard on his jump shot.

“When you get hurt, especially somebody like Rondo, his quickness wasn’t all the way there, so the biggest thing in workouts was, he was getting a lot of jump shots up,” Sullinger said. “I think all those reps really helped him out. He (used game-like conditions), and I think that carried over."

"

Celtics assistant Ron Adams fiddled with Rondo’s shot, just as Adams did with Avery Bradley. Rondo even told reporters that he told Adams he wanted “to shoot like Avery,” who was hitting 38 percent of his corner threes before his injury. Brad Stevens is just happy to see players utilizing Adams, who is known for more than just his defensive mind."

There's plenty more in that piece for you to absorb which directly contradicts your rampant speculation.

Rondo has played well here for where he was drafted, played through injury and on a very reasonable contract. Yes, he should be traded now and he doesn't deserve a max deal, but he's far from the nonchalant loser you make him out to be. He's accomplished more than most people who throw him under the bus here.

And yet whenever someone throws Big Baby on the bus, who has had a mediocre NBA career in comparison, you get all worked up. c'mon...

Fact...the guy can't shoot...Fact, teams love to see this clown on the free throw line late in close games because he C-H-O-K-E-S...Fact...he sucks...fact, he's not a great player...Fact, he sucks...fact, he really, really sucks...Fact, he plays hedious D now...fact, he's lost his mobility and did so BEFORE hurting his leg...Fact, he can't close out close games when we have the lead...

Facts?...I like mine more than yours....

Man...faint praise indeed in your highlighted passage...he's supposed to be a pro basketball "star" so I truly hope he's accomplished more than any poster here...lol...are you serious with this gibberish? He's "pretty good for where he was drafted"?...LMFAO...I guess...

I'm so sick of the Rondo hate in here...this is one of the most ill-informed Rondo posts ever. The argument is: because he hasn't called this one guy, he hasn't worked on his shot. Ridiculous. And because you hate him, then you assume he hasn't adjusted his shot.

Fact: some guys will never be great shooters. Fact: you can improve if you work on it. Fact: that's exactly what Rondo has done. Fact: Rondo has adjusted his shot technique via coaching. Fact: while recovering from surgery, Rondo worked hard on his jump shot.

“When you get hurt, especially somebody like Rondo, his quickness wasn’t all the way there, so the biggest thing in workouts was, he was getting a lot of jump shots up,” Sullinger said. “I think all those reps really helped him out. He (used game-like conditions), and I think that carried over."

"

Celtics assistant Ron Adams fiddled with Rondo’s shot, just as Adams did with Avery Bradley. Rondo even told reporters that he told Adams he wanted “to shoot like Avery,” who was hitting 38 percent of his corner threes before his injury. Brad Stevens is just happy to see players utilizing Adams, who is known for more than just his defensive mind."

There's plenty more in that piece for you to absorb which directly contradicts your rampant speculation.

Rondo has played well here for where he was drafted, played through injury and on a very reasonable contract. Yes, he should be traded now and he doesn't deserve a max deal, but he's far from the nonchalant loser you make him out to be. He's accomplished more than most people who throw him under the bus here.

And yet whenever someone throws Big Baby on the bus, who has had a mediocre NBA career in comparison, you get all worked up. c'mon...

Spanky's cautious appreciation of "facts" reminds me of the way Tony Stewart drives on the dirt track circuit.

hey karl, thanks for the social commentary. your message would be more readily received if it weren't for your heavy handed bully approach. and do pardon rondo for rising to the top of his trite profession while our public education system is overrun with mediocrity.

bp

I'm sorry, do you feel bullied? My apologies, didnt think I had the power.

I've said this a million times. Rondo can shoot when the pressure's off (see horse game vs Durant). He just needs to get off a lot of shots to work through his mental block.

This couldn't happen during the big three era, and last year he was hurt too much of the season. But if he can get enough shots off to work through the nerves, I think he's actually a pretty good shooter.

It might be more than a mental block, although I agree he has one. You'll find lots of guys with a decent shot are terrible during a game because of the slightest defensive pressure or their heart rate is up or not in the flow of the game.

Rondos horse game vs Durrant the perfect example, as youve pointed out. Standing in a gym, sizing up your shot with no pressure or intensity showed Rondo a good shot. During the game or clutch time, with some pressure, hes garbage. Wilt Chamberlain was a very good FT shooter, in practice. Stories of him hitting 20 straight were always floating around but during game time, he was Rondoish..

After 8 years, I think the jury's back with the verdict. Rondo is never going to be a good shooter in the NBA from anywhere further away than a few feet. It may be because of some of the reasons above or it may be because he just never cared much and didnt have an unstoppable desire to develop himself, ala Jason Kidd, Magic et al.

I've said this a million times. Rondo can shoot when the pressure's off (see horse game vs Durant). He just needs to get off a lot of shots to work through his mental block.

This couldn't happen during the big three era, and last year he was hurt too much of the season. But if he can get enough shots off to work through the nerves, I think he's actually a pretty good shooter.

It might be more than a mental block, although I agree he has one. You'll find lots of guys with a decent shot are terrible during a game because of the slightest defensive pressure or their heart rate is up or not in the flow of the game.

Rondos horse game vs Durrant the perfect example, as youve pointed out. Standing in a gym, sizing up your shot with no pressure or intensity showed Rondo a good shot. During the game or clutch time, with some pressure, hes garbage. Wilt Chamberlain was a very good FT shooter, in practice. Stories of him hitting 20 straight were always floating around but during game time, he was Rondoish..

After 8 years, I think the jury's back with the verdict. Rondo is never going to be a good shooter in the NBA from anywhere further away than a few feet. It may be because of some of the reasons above or it may be because he just never cared much and didnt have an unstoppable desire to develop himself, ala Jason Kidd, Magic et al.

I've said this a million times. Rondo can shoot when the pressure's off (see horse game vs Durant). He just needs to get off a lot of shots to work through his mental block.

This couldn't happen during the big three era, and last year he was hurt too much of the season. But if he can get enough shots off to work through the nerves, I think he's actually a pretty good shooter.

It might be more than a mental block, although I agree he has one. You'll find lots of guys with a decent shot are terrible during a game because of the slightest defensive pressure or their heart rate is up or not in the flow of the game.

Rondos horse game vs Durrant the perfect example, as youve pointed out. Standing in a gym, sizing up your shot with no pressure or intensity showed Rondo a good shot. During the game or clutch time, with some pressure, hes garbage. Wilt Chamberlain was a very good FT shooter, in practice. Stories of him hitting 20 straight were always floating around but during game time, he was Rondoish..

After 8 years, I think the jury's back with the verdict. Rondo is never going to be a good shooter in the NBA from anywhere further away than a few feet. It may be because of some of the reasons above or it may be because he just never cared much and didnt have an unstoppable desire to develop himself, ala Jason Kidd, Magic et al.

LOL...

I think I just found my new favorite adjective!

Here's Coach Andy trying to settle Deputy "Fast Gun" Fife down so he can get the drop on town drunk Otis in the big scene.

During rehearsal... no problemo. Fastest gun on the set.

When the cameras are rolling... you guessed it. Barney-----> utterly rondoish.