I received word that the search in the Shell Harbour region of the St. Johns river has been completed. It has not been revealed if anything with any evidence value was found. This is hardly surprising, if Haleigh Cummings body was dumped in the area 14 months ago there would be little to locate at this late stage. The St. Johns river is not fast flowing, but it is still moving water. The term ‘needle in a haystack’ comes to mind.

I do believe though that the search was successful in so far as waking up the people involved.Â Â Apparently those currently behind bars are being a lot more co-operative in the investigation.

One of the more interesting aspects are the rumors swirling around concerning the source of the tip that led the police to the Shell Harbor area. HLN managed to do an about face on the name of the person. Last night the claim was made that it was Misty Croslin’s and Joe Overstreet’s maternal grandmother Flora Hollars that set the ball rolling. Two days previously they made a major boo boo by naming the real person. Interestingly enough the person that named the name seems to have been ‘offed’ the Nancy show. When the cops ask you to not blab a name, it is usually best not to.

Here is a press release that might clear things up (I have redacted the phone numbers and email address):

JAMES S. WERTER, LLC
ATTORNEY AT LAW

HALEIGH CUMMINGS MISSING CHILD CASE

APRIL 16, 2010

On March 26, 2010, I informed Nancy Grace that Hank T. Croslin, Jr. (Tommy), wanted and will take a polygraph exam to clear the air as to the events of the evening of February 9-10, 2009, when Haleigh disappeared.

On Thursday, April 8, 2010, Tommy did take a polygraph given by technician, Ron Grenier. On Saturday, April10, 2010, this attorney met with his client to discuss the results of the polygraph.

On Sunday night, April 11, 2010, this attorney received a telephone call from Lindsey Croslin (Wife) that Tommy requested that we meet with Steven K. Brown, the private investigator involved for the past 10-11 months.

On Monday morning, 9:30 AM, April 12, 2010, Steven K. Brown, this attorney and Tommy met at the St. Johns County Jail to discuss the polygraph and February 9, 2009.

Based on discussions that morning, this attorney made contact with FDLE, the State Attorneyâ€™s Office and Scott Bolin, Special Agent, FBI, and arranged an interview with Tommy atÂ the State Attorneyâ€™s Office, Homicide Investigations Unit, St. Augustine, Florida, at approximately 5:00 PM.

As a result of the 2 plus hours interview with Jason Jolicoeiur, Special Agent, FDLE, Detective Peggy Cone, Putnam Co. Sheriffâ€™s Office, under the guidance of this attorney and Steven K. Brown, Tommy took the group to the Shell Harbour Road boat ramp, St Johns River,Â Putnam County, Florida.

The commencement of the river search for Haleigh was at 10:00 AM, Tuesday, April 13, 2010.

122 users commented in " Haleigh Cummings Update â€“ Search Ends "

Simon – THANK YOU for this update. So Granny is just trying to cash in! Is there NO ONE in this family with an ounce of pride or deceincy? Good GRIEF!

WthACherryonTop said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 3:40 pm

Any word on Ron? How is he reacting? Handleing this? Etc?

JB said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 3:47 pm

Oh, now that attachment about granny is PRICELESS!!!!!! I don’t know where you get this stuff Simon but KUDOS to you! That one made me laugh and after all the heartache this week I REALLY needed that. Granny is another whack job!

Jason said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 3:47 pm

SO, we knew certain of Ron and Misty’s behaviors were atypical, but had to give them the benefit of doubt, as we couldn’t say for certain.

Ron put the decapitated rat in Tommy’s mailbox? Probably.

DogRescuer said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 3:51 pm

It is of my opinion that the investigators have found all they need. This entire Croslin bunch are a bunch of crazies. Do you think it would be great if Ron would be allowed 10 minutes alone with each of them. This would save the taxpayers a lot of money.

Jason said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 3:56 pm

Tommy must have been ready to tell police the truth way back when the rat was placed in his mailbox.

cathartic said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 3:57 pm

I will be shocked if it is proven that RC was directly involved. I have always believed he was involved in the cover-up (and that the reason for that would be known to us eventually), and I have held him indirectly responsible for the tragedy due to his lifestyle and poor judgment, but if it comes out he harmed Haleigh directly, I will be totally and irreversibly shocked.

robin said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 3:58 pm

I tend to believe that yes, Flora Hollars is out for the fame and money. She hit the media circuit and “bragged” that “YES I GAVE THE TIP!” And to sit there and give some horrific details without blinking an eye, no emotion, I would say hook her up to one of those infamous LDTs to corroborate her story. I believe she would fail in a minute. Does anyone in this family tell the truth?

MomFromIL said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 3:59 pm

This family makes me want to throw up! Everyone trying to get their 15 mins of fame; meanwhile a 5 year old girl is dead!

Jason said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 4:01 pm

Dog Rescuer, the truth is that Ron is involved. IMO, Ron knew, and possibly played a major role.

Claudia said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 4:09 pm

If Haleigh’s body was dumped 14 months ago, I dont think they are goin to find any trace of her. They mentioned there were crocidle toenails in the river, I’m pretty sure they have something to do with the body not appearing. Poor Haleigh didnt stand a chance with these monsters. She’s an angel now and in a better place. I hope Misty gets wat she deserves and yes I do agree that they should put Tommy and Joe in a cell with Ron. Daddy has to handle and give them a piece of their own medicine. I hope every child murderer and child molesters rot in prison or get the death penalty. All for it!!! They have no heart for an innocent child, we shouldnt have a heart for them.

cathartic said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 4:10 pm

Granny is in this for the reward money, I felt that the minute I heard her speak.

Jason said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 4:10 pm

Notice in jail audio/video tapes, Tommy feels much anger and contempt for Ron.

IMO, Tom thought about telling what he knew a long time ago, right before he found a decapitated rat in his mailbox.

What was it Ron said about putting the rat in Tommy’s mailbox to ‘test’ Misty?

Emma said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 4:10 pm

Ron and Misty give white trash a bad name. How did he get such a lovely, sweet mother. Oh well, mama tried, mama tried. Rest in peace little angel.

JB said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 4:13 pm

Did you guys read the link with the letter from Cuz Joe’s sister about Granny? LMAO I’m beginning to hear the music from Deliverance every time one of their names is mentioned! These people REALLY scare me! The fact that Granny is on camera lying and trying to cash in really shouldn’t surprise me but I guess it does. Have they no shame? ANY of them? And how many more of this Croslin/Overstreet/Hollars clan are there? Can we just round them ALL up and lock them away for good? They are ALL FRIGGIN’ NUTS and either CRIMINALS or CRIMINALLY INSANE! SHEESH!

When Granny could talk about Haleigh being tossed in the creek and not being sure she was dead yet without blinking an eye or skipping a beat, I KNEW she was one fugged up individual!

JB said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 4:18 pm

Jason – so how do you see Ron fitting into this mess? I’ve thought he was involved but I can’t figure out how. Curious what your theory is. The rat thing made me very suspicious too and I don’t think in a minute it was to test Misty. That NEVER made sense to me. He was trying to shut Tommy up…but WHY?

cathartic said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 4:19 pm

And don’t forget there seems to be no love lost between Granny and her grandson Joe. Most grandmothers would be appalled if they knew their grandchild was involved in such a despicable act; yet this gmom has 3 grandkids possibly involved and she goes on TV gossip shows talking about it!

Money. It’s all about money with these people. They will sell their own kin for money and not bat an eye.

JB said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 4:26 pm

cathartic – you got that right. It isn’t uncommon to have one or two bad apples in your family tree but this whole dang tree is rotten to the core!

Jason said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 4:31 pm

JB, Ron’s ‘testing’ Misty is probably just a side benefit of his coercing Tommy to keep quiet (IMO).

ipayattention said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 4:35 pm

Um, ok so check out good ol Joe Overstreets nice pic on Myspace. Impressive… Him with a gun in hand. Funny thing about this, i viewed his myspace on Tuesday, and this picture was not there. He cant be too innocent. Anyone who takes pictues of themselves like this is making a bold statement about their own charactor.

methinks said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 4:38 pm

All I can say is WOW! No evidence, no confession, no proof, and no body…nothing but a big fat bill for the state of florida. This is not right. There must be something they can do to get to the truth….I’ve got a couple of ideas but alsas…none are legal that I know of….hmmm what to do??????

JB said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 4:43 pm

Jason – but how do you see Ron being involved? I first thought she OD’d on some of his drugs or this was due to one of Ron’s drug debts but now I don’t know how he fits into the mix…or if he does. He could be innocent other than the fact he endangered his children by his lifestyle, drug use, having a druggie girlfriend/babysitter, etc….but it sure doesn’t explain some of his behaviors, that’s for sure.

JB said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 4:43 pm

Jacon – but how do you see Ron being involved? I first thought she OD’d on some of his drugs or this was due to one of Ron’s drug debts but now I don’t know how he fits into the mix…or if he does. He could be innocent other than the fact he endangered his children by his lifestyle, drug use, having a druggie girlfriend/babysitter, etc….but it sure doesn’t explain some of his behaviors, that’s for sure.

ms.peridot19 said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

Jason said,in April 16th, 2010 at 3:56 pmTommy must have been ready to tell police the truth way back when the rat was placed in his mailbox.
….
i am afraid jason is correct on this and all that could mean.

also jason, i saw that you and cent commenting on that certain pic, well, when i first saw the pic i could not understand picking that one to put out there. ewww! jmo

cathartic said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

LE is aware that after 14 months it would be almost impossible to recover a body. I do believe they were looking for bones, even one or two tiny bones could be identified to be Haleigh’s.

I think they also were looking for other evidence, possibly a blanket or even something that might have been used to weigh evidence down.

If LE had not followed through on this tip, everyone would have been asking why. They do follow up, everyone asks why. They have a reason to believe evidence is there, that’s why!

Toughenough said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 5:24 pm

OK but didn’t Misty tell the cops months ago that it was Tommy and Joe…they didn’t believe her. I think maybe LE should have taken into consideration that she was young and possibly threatened. They should have put her into “protective custody” and gotten to the bottom of this months ago! I think Ron is innocent and maybe Misty is too, what does someoe do when they are young, scared, tell LE a smidgeon of what happened only to be thrust to the wolves, why would she give any more details. I know I’ll be ridiculed for my thoughts. Yes Ron and Misty guilty of drugs but I’m not sure about much else!

Jackie said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 5:26 pm

In one of Misty’s interviews she says, “What would they want with a 5 yr old girl anyway??” I thought that was a telling statement because I’m sure she knows that kids are sexually abused and killed quite often. Since this started, that was my first thought…someone over there raped that kid… I think all three of them made a pact that each one of them was not to talk and that they would all go down if one person talked. I wonder if Misty let someone hurt Haleigh, and then they all hatched up this plan with the cinder block and the river. Remember not one of the three, Joe, Misty or Tommy are blood relatives of Haleigh’s. But they are blood relatives of each other.

ms.peridot19 said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 5:28 pm

well granny really favors misty! misty was not brought up to lie??? hmmmm, maybe it is congenital? or maybe inheritted genetically?

Tuff Stuff said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 5:41 pm

Misty thrust her own self to the wolves by not calling 911 right away and instead waits until Ron comes home. The 911 call is a whole nother can of worms all on it’s own too imvho.

So Misty didn’t feel safe to tell the truth with Ron there either? Nor when the officers arrived at the scene? BS.

Did she call her Mommy and Daddy and tell them what happened or was she scared of them too?

Poor little Misty, no one to trust with her story except for good ol’ Granny Flo. (Which btw she apparently didn’t even trust Granny Flo until here recently.) Good grief.

Just a thought, Misty claims Joe Tommy messed with her when she was younger and Joe, if its true just killed Ron’s daughter. So how could her parents protect her from some one they couldn’t protect her from before and how could Ron when he couldn’t protect his own daughter. So how would you deal with this, you tell LE, they don’t believe you, you marry a tough guy but then divorce. If she’s guilty of anything more than not telling the entire story, let Ron in her cell….but ……

ms.peridot19 said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 6:01 pm

if mc was really afraid of tommy, why did they move to live right by him?? i really wonder about that. why let tc come over at all?

ms.peridot19 said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 6:04 pm

does anyone remember how long ron was on the night shift?

Tuff Stuff said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 6:05 pm

Ron’s not off the hook just yet either. There is still an ongoing investigation and so far we do not even know who LE has on their poi list yet.
Do we?

Toughenough said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 6:07 pm

BTW my hubby totally disagrees with me and I must acknowledge that I was wrong with Susan Smith and he had her pegged from the first time he saw her on tv., so yes I’m used to being wrong and YES I still have a hard time thinking that a woman could do this

tobias said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 6:08 pm

In one of the tapes to good ol granny she is on her way to a pschiatrist(spell) and says she had a ct scan . Tommy tells Lindsy to let her stay with her when she comes for the trial because she is old and has a brain tumor. Linsy for some reason is cold about her coming there and says so. She doesnt even try to talk with her parents about it, To me that said a lot that she isnt going to help an old lady(because she knows how she is) remember she raised these others. She also said she has no money for rent and has lent Hank money.

I am wondering why the fed said not to be too quick in releasing Ron???? Is there something else he is involved in that isnt Haleigh related? jmo jmo

ms.peridot19 said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 6:12 pm

simon, if possible, could you tell us information on how long the police usually have to wait for the results from the labs? (not for the public to know – just the police)

Tuff Stuff said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

…and to add to that ms.peridot19, why did Misty drop the restraining order against Tommy and then move in with him and his family?

Was she askeered of Joe when she went to stay with Granny Flo in Tenn.?

(Cause Granny Flo looks like Granny slo and I think maybe, I could be wrong here, but I do think Joe, as skinny and squirrly as he looks, could possibly take Granny. GGMa Sykes, oh heck no but for sure yeah I believe Granny Flo would have to tag team with Misty crying on the phone to 911 if that were the case.)
…Just saying.

Random Thoughts said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

Is it possible Ron or Misty one owed this Joe Overstreet money and then didn’t pay him.

Misty states in the letter that she knew Tommy was coming for the gun, almost as if he had her blessing. When they got there and searched – no gun. Tommy left, then Joe got mad. Real mad.

She says this Joe raped her twice but she doesn’t say when. She also says he threatened to come back and kill her.

I’ve heard that oxycontin go as high as 25 bucks on the street. How many pills would that take to equal out to 35,000 dollars?

This would tie Ron in to foreknowledge as to “why” but not make him culpable. It makes sense that they all knew Tommy was the week link in the chain who would end up ratting – which he did.

methinks said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 6:24 pm

I’m having a hard time finding sympathy for “poor lil’ misty” Tommy and Joe messed with her when she was little…what ever. Misty is 18. Tommy is what? 22…23? and Joe is 20? sounds like children expermenting to me. That statement from her offends me. As a survivor of molestation, I am absolutely offended. She has slapped the face of every child victim on the planet. UGGGGGGGGGGG! Give me three minutes with this little lyin’ sack o’ sh!t….she’ll remember what really happened.

tobias said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 6:30 pm

Methinks, I thought she was lying about that and so much more. I wont bring it up but a lot of people on here know what I am refering to.
Misty will sink anyone to save her own scrawny a@@ but Ron and if it ever came to just the two of them she would have too. jmo

ms.peridot19 said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 6:39 pm

tough stuff, EXACTLY!!! seriously, would not “mommy chelsea” let misty come and stay with them if misty was in any danger from tommy. or even if misty was afraid of being molested by tom? ridiculous what we are suppose to believe!

on the phone call with misty and chelsea – when chelsea screeches to timmy: they are starving her (misty)! oh brother!!!

(hahaha – and how long would it take them to call??? if it was grandma flo?)

ms.peridot19 said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 6:46 pm

oh tobias, i just realized what you mean. i worry about that!!!

tobias said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 6:46 pm

In my opinion when Ron called and warned Misty about Donna he wasnt worried she would say something about Haleigh he was worried about her saying something about their drug dealing and I think there is way more to that story and thats why the feds dont want him released too soon. jmo

tobias said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 6:47 pm

MS.P I was refering to Flagler incident. Do you agree it might not be what really happened?jmo

tobias, i think we (the people) will never know the whole truth! i reallly really worry about the justice in that case!

ms.peridot19 said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 6:53 pm

i don’t pretend to have any answers, but,there are many horror stories about plea deals.

ms.peridot19 said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 6:57 pm

methinks said,
in April 16th, 2010 at 6:24 pm

you said it perfectly, thank you!

tobias said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 6:58 pm

I also worry about the justice in the Snodgrass case. Does anyone know if there is a statute of limitations on it and if so for how long? It seems he is having problems getting a defender now.geeeeezzz.jmo

ms.peridot19 said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 7:02 pm

he could be a walking timebomb, i wish something would happen soon with his trial. talk about asking for trouble.

mcmasehere said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 7:03 pm

I believe Misty was jealous of Hailey. You could tell this little girl was the apple of her fathers eye. Misty wanted to be Hailey and I do believe that Misty killed her or had her killed. I hope that Misty and her family get whats coming to them. I am with Ronald….I would kill the person responsible for my childs death. I pray for Ronald and his family.

tobias said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 7:04 pm

I wanted to smack NG when she said she feels for Ron because she leaves her two kids and if they were taken she would feel the same. I want to ask her if she would leave her two with someone like Misty? I doubt it she screened those nannys through and through. jmo

ms.peridot19 said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 7:09 pm

chelsea on hln right now

tobias said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 7:10 pm

I thought her treatment of Crystal was more than awful.Very unfair and biased reporting on her part.And I think she should say so in an apology on National TV.JMO

robin said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 7:14 pm

On Thursday, April 8, 2010, Tommy did take a polygraph given by technician, Ron Grenier. On Saturday, April10, 2010, this attorney met with his client to discuss the results of the polygraph.

On Monday morning, 9:30 AM, April 12, 2010, Steven K. Brown, this attorney and Tommy met at the St. Johns County Jail to discuss the polygraph and February 9, 2009.

Does anyone know the results of this polygraph? Have you noticed that the results were not disclosed? Did he fail miserably or pass with flying colors? But yet all the polygraph results for Misty were mentioned (“failed miserably”)and even released to the media..HMMM…Something definately stinks! I do not know if Misty is even responsible (no one does yet) but you can best guarantee that SHE will take the fall for it–NO MATTER who is responsible! There is too much time and money invested in the “Misty is the key” theory (not to mention pressure to solve this case) that SHE will go down for it–innocence, be damned!

ms.peridot19 said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 7:17 pm

oh, the way she has treated crystal!! ng is educated, sophisticated with all her life experience not to mention her prosecutor experience and she shreds crystal! what does that say about the woman???

it is one thing to try and find the truth and or make your point. but, she knew how crystal is during interviews and she used it to her own advantage for ratings.

Kristin said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 7:18 pm

Personally, I think Haleigh saw Joe and Misty having sex. They’ve said multiple times that Misty and Joe have had countless sexual encounters. I think Misty freaked, killed her, and Tommy and Joe dragged her body to the river and threw her in. Those people are sick. That poor baby never had a chance.

robin said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 7:19 pm

tobias–Nancy apologize? Her ego would never let her apologize to anyone! She talks about the “ME ME ME” complex everyone has in this case and yet she exhibits the same behavior! She has to always be right–she is CSI, judge, jury, and executioner all rolled into one! And one day that judgemental mouth is going to put her in the unemployment line, hopefully!

I Dont think that it happen out of anger to the child I think they got into where all high and she wasn’t being watched or they passed out and she got. Into what was laying around misty had Joe and tommy to help her to take her to the river I think she was still alive and somne hit her over. The head and put. Her in the river th ey couldn’t throw her in there alive it would be to much for them they had done enough to her already

Random Thoughts said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 7:35 pm

I too think Nancy Grace owes Crystal a huge apology. Nancy had a bad taste in her mouth for Crystal the minute she heard that the “mother” didn’t have custody.

Sometimes Nancy is untactful and fully lacking any empathy, which makes her look like the Myra Gulch of HLN.Lol

shayshay said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

About the Oxycontin question, they can go for well over $25 rule of themb for Oxycontin on the street is $1a mg. they come in 10, 20, 40, and 80mg pills making one 80mg oxy very valuable. For street use most put the pill in there mouth to remove the time coating so the pills can than be crushes to snort or shoot. Now ROXYS go for a much higher price.
That is why I never felt misty drugged Haleigh she would have neved “shared” her drugs. Poor Haleigh probably annoyed Misty while she was coming down and she killed her. The details we do not know.

Yes she does have that way about her Nancy we are the ones who can relate more to her rich poeple don’t think that things happen to us in life that we can’t control if doest make us bad parents

tobias said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 8:01 pm

Why was Chelsea on and not Timmy? And now we are hearing Timmy was in the wreck also? First time that was said. And she avoided the fact Joe was staying with them for 2 weeks.hmmm
What could Chelsea really know other than what the ones in jail have told her which in my opinion has been lies.She also has been leaking tid bits constantly to AH why? She is in MASS. how does she know whats going on in Satsuma?jmo

tobias said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 8:05 pm

I cant believe Chelsea says Joe is crazy…. she left him stay with her and her kids for 2 weeks and now he is crazy. I dont believe her at all. jmo

Good guestion Joe. Could he have known then what happened i can’t belived he knew this the whole time if he knew. He should get an Oscar for that

Jason said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 8:34 pm

Ms. Peridot, LOL – I’d love to, though!

methinks said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 8:41 pm

shayshay, The way you described the oxy queston was spot on. I don’t know whether your knowledge is from experience on the street or CD councelor, or LE, mine = past addiction=exerience… but what you said was absolutely correct. I agree misty wouldn’t waste $20.00 oxy on Haleigh. tylanol pm maybe, but not her goods. combative behavior while “coming down” is quite common. Haleigh easily could have been on the receiving end of mistys come down. With Haleighs turner syndrome, her respiratory system is very delicate and vulnerable. any drug must be carefully prescribed. This poor child didn’t stand a chance in this environment.

tobias said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 8:41 pm

I hate to sound like OJS GLOVE but I feel Joe may be a scapegoat for the croslins. jmo

methinks said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 8:49 pm

Man tobias, I’ve been tossing this around too, but theres just something about joe that I don’t trust…he seems sneaky, and sly and yes, I know these traits don’t make him a murderer, but theres just something I can’t put my finger on. jmo

cathartic said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 8:50 pm

I heard something today I had never heard before. Chelsea on TV said she was up very late that night and Joe was just coming in.

Huh? Coming in from where? And what time was it?

Has anyone ever heard her say that before? All I had ever heard was she saw the van parked differently and the keys not in their regular place.

If she ever made that comment about Joe coming in late before, I might lean more toward maybe he was involved…if this is the first time it has been said I think the timing is awfully convenient!

methinks said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 8:53 pm

WoW cathartic, I’d never heard that before and I missed NG tonight, ( my tv fell out the window) but yes that is mighty convenient>

Does anyone remember when Hank said he was working on it to Misty when she said she wanted out of jail? I think he got Gma H. to put the blame on Joe. He wants his family out of jail at any cost, he even said he would go put a gun in Joes mouth and make him talk if he could. I just dont see Misty lying for Joe even if it meant she would get some jail time for not reporting it right away. jmo

I think the money (if the reward fund is still available) should go into a trust fund for Jr.

tobias said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 9:08 pm

Cath, I never heard it either all she said was he slept in his clothes. And Timmy was up that night and he thought he was in another room on the phone. Sounds like Mistys story why wouldnt you go see where he was? jmo

cathartic said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 9:11 pm

Misty did not come forward because she is involved, not because she was scared of Joe. She is at the very least an accomplice if she saw anyone take Haleigh out of the house and did not call 911 immediately. IMO you don’t sit there alone and frightened, with your back door wide open, and not call police. Misty’s story is ridiculous.

Whatever they have said over the phone is recorded. From what I understand, what was said to Granny on the phone does not exactly jive with what Granny is saying.

tobias said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 9:12 pm

Cath so do I. And to be secured until he reached 21. And if he doesnt it should then go to Chloe at 21. jmo

tobias said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 9:15 pm

Granny by her own ommission is not well and was at one time on tape going to the head shrink. She also is said to have a brain tumor when Misty is afraid she will die while she is in jail. All on the tapes. jmo

And it was said just in case granny didnt go along with the story they had hatched up to blame Joe. If she blames them they will say she is a nut job. Just like Joes sister is saying. jmo

cathartic said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

I have a gnawing feeling Misty is going to get away with something she should not get away with. I sure hope I am wrong on that because she is not the victim; Haleigh is.

tobias said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

And if we know it you know HLN knows it but there she is on National TV saying Joe, Misty or Tommy did it.jmo

tobias said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

Cath, Remember there are still the drug charges and there are no deals made. SH said there were no plea deals made. jmo

tobias said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

Good night all gotta get some sleep work starts at 4. Hope someone confesses.jmo

Polly said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 9:45 pm

Nanny Flo puts me in mind of Junior Samples….only Junior had a lot more class and less ignorance.

BR-549 HA HA HA

SarahB1 said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 10:52 pm

The latest is that two concrete blocks were removed from the river. Testing is being done, but they may be similar to blocks outside trailer where Ron, Misty and the two kids lived.

vaquera said,

in April 16th, 2010 at 11:26 pm

cathartic said,
in April 16th, 2010 at 9:11 pm

Misty did not come forward because she is involved, not because she was scared of Joe. She is at the very least an accomplice if she saw anyone take Haleigh out of the house and did not call 911 immediately. IMO you don’t sit there alone and frightened, with your back door wide open, and not call police. Misty’s story is ridiculous.

Whatever they have said over the phone is recorded. From what I understand, what was said to Granny on the phone does not exactly jive with what Granny is saying.
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I agree with you, Misty’s story is way ridiculous

Jason said,

in April 17th, 2010 at 1:01 am

So hard to believe Flora would go on NG and accuse two of her grandsons of murdering Haleigh, if she didn’t honestly believe that it is true.

I’m wondering if she really was the first to tell LE, and then Tommy admitted the truth (and went with LE to the boat ramp) AFTER LE told him that his grandmother Flora told them what he did.

shayshay said,

in April 17th, 2010 at 1:31 am

Thanks METHINKS, just trying to give a little background for those with the oxycontin overdose theory which in my opinion, wasn’t what happend. To answer your question I got my info not from being a counselor or being LE but from being 25 years old with a chronic pain disease that I was struck with 5 years ago, it de-railed my life to say the least. Chronic pain is hard to manage especially at 25, and I have had my oxy stolen from “friends” and having a perscription makes you become a target of any low life that knows. I do wonder if an overdose would have been less suffering, so sad. Maybe when people fear she was over-dosed they had no idea her death was probably violent, painful and scary. Its so sad to even imagine what that poor angel endured with no one protecting her.

i still haven’t watched any video coverage of GrannyFlo. i’m afraid, judging by the transcripts from NG or whatever, that i would get physically ill. i don’t want to actually hear and see her say those things about Haleigh.

anyone else have nightmares last night? i dreamt i was on a boat dock with some people, and everyone was having fun. i was goofing around in a very large clay urn type thing, and everyone thought i was very funny. but then i slipped, urn and all, off the dock. when the urn and i hit the river bottom, i realized my hips were stuck at the mouth of the urn. i was just beginning to realize i was in trouble and wondering if the people above would realize it and save me when — i woke up.

my boyfriend’s nickname for me is Worst Case Scenario. i tend to dream up things to worry about that haven’t crossed most people’s minds. but somehow all this time it never occurred to me Haleigh could have gone into the water alive.

my hope, now that it seems senseless to hope she’s alive, is that she did not suffer. i hope she didn’t realize what was happening to her at all. i hope she died with her trust and faith in the adults around her intact, though those adults did not deserve her trust and faith.

We can belive that someone done something to the child why kill her if they. Didn’t she is only 5 what could she. Would kill her over have done or saw that they killed her someone Done something to cover up there actions it. Had to be Drug related I think that’s why they set up the sting to have proof later to help with the case against her later and to break misty to . Very cleaver.s

Buddy said,

in April 17th, 2010 at 10:58 am

Is it safe to say, Ron knows something and covering for Misty, without getting beat up on here now? From the beginning I have always thought Ron and his family knew what happened, which is the only thing that could explain their odd behavior. The Crystal conspirators have tried to run anyone off with that point of view,but, IMO I still believe Ron is covering for GGS or TN or they are covering for Ron and Misty is covering for Ron and Tommy.

Did GGS really see the kid’s at 7:00 eating dinner on the porch in the cold or was she there to remove drugs and guns for the clean up? She would be the only person Ron could trust and one of the homes that would not be searched to store Ron’s things.
Did Misty baby sit or did TN, and Misty and Tommy were called in later to aid in the cover up? Was TN there that day when Ron picked up Haleigh from the bus?
Why did Ronald get that weird tattoo with “Teresa” large on his chest? GGS raised him more than TN did, why not a tattoo with her name?

Why did Ronald coach Misty on interviews? Why did TN and Ronald always seem to have all the answers for that night if they were not there? They never said, I was told, or according to what Misty said when answering questions from that night..They had a story that sounded scripted with exact times the kids went to bed, when Misty went to bed when woke up, what she woke up for.. They followed the same script, interview after interview in a robotic manor, Misty seemed to have a problem following the script, which makes me think, it was not her story. How did TN make it there so quick and why the large photo?

Grandma of 5 said,

in April 17th, 2010 at 2:51 pm

It is peaceful on here today. I don’t usually post because of everyone jumping on you for you’re opinions.My son is a respected police det.in another state.He has never believed R & M since the today show int.after they got married.He has the ability to read people,& has gotten commendations from the Gov. on down.I will stick with his idea untill they prove otherwise. jmo

Rons tears seemed strange at the time they seemed forced at times maybe thats why Ron married misty shortly after so they wouldn’t have to testifie against each other . Ron was with misty when she was asrested . Why would he be with her if he thought she did it. Do we know what she ever told him .

The jail house tapes will truly speak volumes…either they (TC & MC, because the moon was aligned just right) simultaneously confessed to their grandmother….. or she is lying. Not too difficult to prove, or disprove the calls from the jail are all recorded….. Just when I think the dysfunction has reach it’s limit in this “family”, another one crawls out for personal gain…or money…. and I mean the whole bunch on any side/relative of the families you want to include.

roblaine said,

in April 17th, 2010 at 11:49 pm

misty drugged both kids to sleep so she could rest, she did not want to watch those kids period. i say joe watched her while misty and brother left for drug run.. coming back she started crying telling misty joe molested her misty beat her and tried to shut her up for fear ron would know he was there. i’m sure she told ron about how she has been molested herself god knows what to believe with her.give your skank selfish a@@ to a group of real moms and let justice be served.

Did anyone see the Rescue truck on tv going toward the jail after the family met?
Also, hearsay, that Ronald was put in a padded cell because he said he was going to commit suicide? This was after Misty and Tommy went to the river with LE. We wondered if he might have been implicated in the death of his little girl. Could have been a rumor or could have been true. We just overheard the conversation about Ronald Cummings, however, we did see on tv what looked like a Rescue making its way to the direction of the jail.

Misty and the gang are not the brightest bulbs in the box, and I’m beginning to wonder if they aren’t caving to the polic pressure,in order to get a lighter sentence for the DRUG charges they’re facing. They, obviously, would do anything to get out of jail, sooner. I think they were all so high they don’t really know WHAT happened to Haleigh, but when they realized she was unconscious, or dead, they took her somewhere to cover it up. I think they all were so strung out on drugs they’re not sure of the details of their trying to dispose of the baby’s body. Poor little girl. . .so many have to live in mega-dysfunctional homes, like this. And, Granny Flo? Puhleeze…….out for the money! Even if she really were sickened by what they allegedly did, NO loving grandmother would go on TV and talk so callously about it! If my grandkids did something like that, I would try to get them to come clean, in PRIVATE, but I would be too sad and disgusted to air such a disgrace in public. . . and NOBODY goes on the Nancy Grace show unless they want fame and/or fortune! Nancy Grace is disgusting, too.

Hey Nancy grace is great she always takes up for the ones who can’t she takes no shit off anyone children need her she is there voice so watch want you. Say about her I guess you faye would just sit back and do nothing. She has balls a lot more people were like her we wouldn’t have people like you

Faye said,

in April 22nd, 2010 at 10:56 pm

Nancy Grace cares all right. . . about RATINGS and getting in the last word. She only cares about the truth as she sees it. Her behavior is beyond unreasonable, and if you don’t believe me, then maybe you’ll believe the reprimand actions taken against her by the Georgia Appellate Court for prosecutorial misconduct. She presents her opinions as fact, without doing proper research, which is irresponsible and inflammatory. She finds some way to disrespect and embarass EVERY guest she has on the show, if they dare disagree with her. Highly esteemed attorney, John Day, summed her actions up, brilliantly: “I know she lost her future husband to a murderer; that is horrible. I know she is profoundly pro-prosecution; no problem. But she is also a lawyer. Her outrageous comments about the legal system offend me. She makes no attempt to be objective. She makes no attempt to analyze. She is not a talking head – she is a screaming skull. She is an embarrassment to the profession.” IMO, there’s a VERY good reason that Ms. Grace is no longer in the courtroom, and it’s not because she’s got a show on CNN. Networks will hire almost ANYONE for ratings.

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