I completely agree. Quit WoW in 2010 due to disappointments in the cata changes.

Garrisons sound epic and the number squashing is amazing. I'll be picking up MoP tonight at gamestop after trying out the 10 day trial earlier this month (and WoD @ blizzcon) and realizing that I do in fact still enjoy WoW.

Isn't it just going to get back where it was eventually??? I mean it will take some time but this game is about numbers whether anyone wants to admit that or not that is what draws players back, levels, damage count, being able to pull the most DPS, these things matter to most.

We've basically just gone back to Cata numbers it seems...considering OP was only level 90 while testing and was in gear roughly equivalent to lvl 92-93 green quest rewards, and still sitting at 30k hp on a DPS char.

Why does it have to have as much new content as prior expansions? I'd rather they fix the current issues eg with itemisation and current balance issues or gimmicks than introduce yet another class or race. There is plenty they can do with their existing classes/races.

I did like 10 quests and there where no rewards except XP, but that might just be the beginning of the zones. There was a boss though which dropped a green weapon which was slightly worse than LFR SoO. Hard to tell because of item squisg though.

Haven't played an orc since WotLK, but yeah, I think the walks look a bit bouncier, but I also think that's because there is more movement because of more bones, so I like it. But I also understand that you can get annoyed when your character which you've had for years changes in something you'll always see.

Well, from what I played, it wasn't very different. There was 3 bosses within the first few quests in Shadowmoon valley, and there was some cool stuff early in Frostfire, but it wasn't anything new with the actual quests. Just kill quests/destroy things quests.

Yeah but that'll probably change. Do you remember tha massive changes the Jade Forest had? If you've seen some early-beta gameplay (yogscast for example) you can see it is nothing like the present one.

You have to stand in queue for a while. I got lucky and got in almost as soon as I got there. I recommend going there with a couple of friends so that you can play through the dungeon in Frostfire Ridge!

Yeah, I think so. System settings was grayed out so I couldn't look through it, but I think it looks better than Pandaria, but that might've been because I wasn't flying around. The zones where very cool atleast.

Did they have new character models out? I know they've shown the undead and tauren males, and gnome and dwarf females at Blizzcon. Other week they released undead females. Curious if they were playable - or still Orc, Dwarf, Gnome.

Additionally, if either of you play the race now, that you did there...did they feel the same with the new work?

New dwarf, gnome and orc male were playable. I played orc in wrath and played dwarf in cata. Dwarf looked the same imo, but the cloak made it look very different, in a good way! Hard to tell for orc, but I didn't feel any major difference.

Yes, I did, the first quest dealt with an invasion of the Iron Horde in Karabor, so I ran around and looked around there a bit! I didn't actually go into it which I regret but the outside was very cool!

The free upgrade leads you through a new "tutorial" zone, to get you up to speed with new skills and all that stuff, and will provide sufficient gear as well. This is public knowledge from the announcement, actually.

Well, I think the first 30 minutes of questing maybe not is the most fun to play when testing a game. It's nothing new but I didn't expect something amazing. You could run the dungeon (atleast enter it) so that might be more fun but you have to get a team together which might be hard when it's a bunch of random people playing.

Definitely Shadowmoon valley, a really cool zone with some cool stuff going on in the quests! I tried to explore a lot but you got teleported back to where you spawned when you got too far away. Wanted to look at Zangarmarsh but there was nothing there sadly.