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Mike Adams - Time to move on?

He's awful.
He's having another awful camp.

Can we just cut him and move on?

I guess since it's 500k in dead cap space, he'll likely make the team and waste a roster spot for a year, before being cut next year when he takes up 1.125 in cap space, and can instead be cut for 250k dead

K-train do you still believe that Munchak is going to sprinkle magic dust on him?

I guess since it's 500k in dead cap space, he'll likely make the team and waste a roster spot for a year, before being cut next year when he takes up 1.125 in cap space, and can instead be cut for 250k dead

K-train do you still believe that Munchak is going to sprinkle magic dust on him?

He is exactly what max starks was in 04/05

I do think he will get better still. It sucks seeing Sentreal Henderson play so well last night though as they are pretty similar players

Just because 2 players are similar in size, doesn't mean they are comparable.

In his 2nd year, Max Starks started 16 games and won a super bowl.
In that 2nd year, he established himself as a middle of the pack starting RT

I mean hated by fans. Called soft (which he was, and which was why he was a 3rd round pick), a good run blocker but a ****** pass blocker. The line starks played on was much better than this current one but he was definitely the worst player on it and he grew into a pretty damn solid player

Right now, Adams pass blocking is putrid. I think he can still improve, but his career is depending on it so we will see i guess. If he keeps playing poorly them resigning gilbert will be inevitable

I mean hated by fans. Called soft (which he was, and which was why he was a 3rd round pick), a good run blocker but a ****** pass blocker. The line starks played on was much better than this current one but he was definitely the worst player on it and he grew into a pretty damn solid player

Right now, Adams pass blocking is putrid. I think he can still improve, but his career is depending on it so we will see i guess. If he keeps playing poorly them resigning gilbert will be inevitable

I read just this morning that the Steelers may be looking to extend him before the end of camp. I guess he looks great.

As far as Adams, I agree that he should get one more year. He is adequate as the extra TE in the big package and it is not like he is taking the space of some world beater. Munchak may not have "magic dust" but if anyone can make a player out of Adams, it is him.

I mean hated by fans. Called soft (which he was, and which was why he was a 3rd round pick), a good run blocker but a ****** pass blocker. The line starks played on was much better than this current one but he was definitely the worst player on it and he grew into a pretty damn solid player

Right now, Adams pass blocking is putrid. I think he can still improve, but his career is depending on it so we will see i guess. If he keeps playing poorly them resigning gilbert will be inevitable

Max was never the worst player on ANY line he played on. Whomever was playing RG at any given time during his career was always worse (Simmons, Essex, Stapleton shudder...). And for most of his career he was the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd best player on the Oline...

Re-signing Gilbert now should be a priority. They should be able to lock him up at a fair lower starting tackle rate, and prevent the Starks situation from years ago...(having no depth, and being forced to franchise).

It's really hard to peg the value... since contracts are now clearly more dependant on position and starting rate, vs evaluation of talent.

RTs: Collins, Oher, Howard, Smith and Herremans just got 5.5 to 6 per for 3-5 years... Loadholt, Davis, and Cherilus are at the top of the market at 6-7 per.

So I think you can fairly estimate that Gilbert is going to be in that 5.5-6 per range...

All Adams will be here is an extra run blocker on 3rd and shorts and in the redzone for blocking on run plays or PA pass. Other than that, he will finish out next season and we move on. I'd rather have guy whimper than adams. If we stop looking at Mikes potential a nd just realize he is another backup at best, it's not so bad.