Who gives a crap about the booing? The play to make in that situation is throw the ball into the dirt or into the cheap seats. Ben dropped back took his first look and nothing open, steps up and has time right there to get rid of it, continues to move around the pocket the left tackle loses his guy and Ben gets sandwiched. With the defense playing good and they were in that game, a punt isn't a bad play.

No one with any football acumen is calling for Charlie Batch this is something you believe is happening but in reality it isn't. I love Ben, but that injury was avoidable and the fall out from the injury cost the Steelers a playoff spot.

The Steelers need Ben for the next 5-6 years to be competitive as he gets older the hits begin to take a toll.

Of course- neither of those guys are in the NFL anymore....and were known distractions to their teams....any chance they may pass on more than just the work ethic?[/QUOTE]

I believe Andre Johnson was also in that group training if I remember the videos. He very much is in the NFL.

01-11-2013, 03:50 PM

Slapstick

[QUOTE=papillon;543939]Who gives a crap about the booing? The play to make in that situation is throw the ball into the dirt or into the cheap seats. Ben dropped back took his first look and nothing open, steps up and has time right there to get rid of it, continues to move around the pocket the left tackle loses his guy and Ben gets sandwiched. With the defense playing good and they were in that game, a punt isn't a bad play.
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The catastrophic ankle sprain last year wasn't much different...

01-11-2013, 03:53 PM

Crash

[QUOTE=feltdizz;543934]LOL... you say this all the time. How many times was Ben booed when he threw a pass away?[/QUOTE]

How many were from the pocket?

He starts doing the Manning flop or throwing balls away from the pocket?

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

01-11-2013, 03:56 PM

Crash

[quote][COLOR=#CCCCCC]Who gives a crap about the booing? The play to make in that situation is throw the ball into the dirt or into the cheap seats.[/quote]

No, the play to make in that situation is to keep Heath Miller out of the backfield.

It sucked when Arians did it, it sucks when Haley does it.

Heath Miller's advantage is what he's at the LOS or in motion from the slot.

Putting him the backfield as a pass catching option negates that advantage.

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01-11-2013, 04:35 PM

papillon

[QUOTE=Crash;544023]No, the play to make in that situation is to keep Heath Miller out of the backfield.

It sucked when Arians did it, it sucks when Haley does it.

Heath Miller's advantage is what he's at the LOS or in motion from the slot.

Putting him the backfield as a pass catching option negates that advantage.

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The play is the play and the formation is the formation there's nothing we can do about that and Ben is capable of changing the play, but he didn't. All I'm saying is that in that situation regardless of the play call Ben needs to get rid of it, not take the hit and come back and fight the next series. Instead of losing a series the Steelers lost two games and barely won the third. Who knows what lingering affects the injury had on the rest of the season. Ben never seemed quite right to me the rest of the season. For all the laughing and guffawing over Manning and Brady curling up in the fetal position, both quarterbacks understand that their teams have a better chance at winning games with them on the field and not in a boot or flak jacket on the sideline. I wish Ben would realize the same.

Pappy

01-11-2013, 04:48 PM

feltdizz

[QUOTE=Crash;544021]How many were from the pocket?

He starts doing the Manning flop or throwing balls away from the pocket?

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO[/QUOTE]

The Manning flop works. Did you see Rivers throwing balls away like a wimp before tearing us a new one? Sometimes the smart play is to go to the sideline upright instead of on a cart.

01-11-2013, 04:52 PM

Crash

[quote][COLOR=#CCCCCC]The play is the play and the formation is the formation there's nothing we can do about that and Ben is capable of changing the play, but he didn't.[/quote]

Yeah, a 3rd down draw to Redman. That'll work.

[quote][/COLOR][COLOR=#CCCCCC]Who knows what lingering affects the injury had on the rest of the season[/quote]
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It didn't. The golf coaches play-calling did.

Just like Heath said, the Chiefs started taking away the short routes.