What will the PS4 and Xbox One redesigns look like?

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The PS4 and Xbox One are fresh off the assembly line, and they’re both incredibly popular this holiday shopping season. That feeling of novelty and excitement doesn’t last long, though. After a while, sales will start to dip. Consoles will get discounted, and then the whole world starts to wonder when a redesign is coming out.

Hardware revisions for game consoles aren’t a new phenomenon. If you look back to the early home consoles released in the 1970s, redesigns are very much an expected part of the hardware cycle. The Atari 2600, the Intellivision, and even the Fairchild Channel F were all released in multiple configurations.

So, can we anticipate what the Xbox One and PS4 redesigns will look like? If we examine the brief history of game consoles, we’ll find a number of core reasons behind revisions. There are far too many hardware revisions to cover in this article, but I’ve selected a number of important redesigns to discuss. Before we try to predict the future, let’s make sure we understand the past.

Nintendo Entertainment System

The initial version of the NES was quite a quirky machine. It used a poorly implemented front-loading cartridge system for aesthetic purposes, and it was notoriously prone to technical issues. While many consumers resorted to blowing heavily into the cartridges, the problems were largely due to bad connections.

Bent pins, poorly aligned connectors, and other mechanical issues were par for the course. To make matters worse, this poorly thought-out design wasn’t even part of the Japanese original. Three years before the nationwide release in the US, Nintendo released the top-loading “Famicom” console with essentially the same internals as the NES. Not only did Americans get the Nintendo later, but we also got an inferior model.

After the Super Nintendo Entertainment System was released, Nintendo eventually went back and redesigned the NES. Model NES-101 was released in 1993, and it featured a top-loading cartridge slot. The pretense of making VCR-like consumer electronics was swept aside, and the US market got to play their NES games without hyperventilating.

PlayStation

The PlayStation was an incredibly popular machine with a very long lifespan, and with that popularity came a non-trivial amount of modding and piracy. Unsurprisingly, Sony wasn’t very pleased about all that, so it continually modified the PlayStation to thwart these ne’er-do-wells.

Originally, the PlayStation shipped with a parallel port, a serial port, composite out, and a custom A/V port. Devices like the GameShark took advantage of these ports to alter the gaming experience, and system-linking was still considered a viable multiplayer strategy before online multiplayer took off on consoles.

By the time the redesigned PSone model came out, Sony ended up stripping most of these features out. The parallel port, serial port, and composite out were all removed from the back. In addition, the internals were changed in hopes of knee-capping the existing mod chip market. While some changes to the PSone were certainly made for aesthetic and cost-saving reasons, it’s clear that Sony was trying to lock things down for the entire run of the first PlayStation.

PlayStation 2

Many of the original PlayStation’s issues plagued the PS2 as well. Hacking enthusiasts used exploits and mod chips to run homebrew games and pirated copies of officially released titles, so Sony decided to play cat-and-mouse for another generation. Firmware was updated, the internals were tweaked to discourage mod chips, rinse, and repeat.

In 2004, Sony shipped the slimline PS2 to mixed reviews. This revision was smaller and quieter than the original design, and it came with an ethernet port built right in. However, it lacked support for the hard drive add-on, so some games were effectively unplayable with the upgrade.

The slimline PS2 wasn’t the only major hardware revision, though. In 2003, Sony released a device called the “PSX” exclusively in Japan. This short-lived device took a fully functional PS2, and combined it with DVR and DVD-burning functionality. Much like the oddball Panasonic Q variant of the GameCube, this beast was expensive, unpopular, and never made it outside of Japan. Even so, the additional features and the shiny new user interface were very telling of Sony’s plans for the next generation.

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lubba

I could see the XBone lasting longer and capable of a redesign. Sure both consoles will battle against the steam machine and a gaming system only, could make it difficult for Sony. No first party exclusive can save a system without 3rd party support.

IKROWNI

All new designs same bad resolutions only another $500!!!

lubba

Another individual anal raped by MS.

Phobos

and sony

Devin Runyan

Because a PS4 is $100 cheaper and supports the 1080p on first party exclusives and gives free games…right.

Phobos

damn right

Person

The Xbox is more expensive because of the kinect technology that it has with voice controls

IKROWNI

Why though my voice control system is thousands of times better at only $20

waveloch

Ps4 camera can do all the Kinect and do and better I might add it’s just not required to have one to use your system

Randall Johnson

If you think the PS4’s camera can do everything the Kinect can do, and better, then try having it sign you in with the lights off and only the TV on.

waveloch

Umm well my ps4 camera can’t do that and I’m thankful it can’t because if your Kinect turns on your system from being totally off then it’s listening to u all the time and I’m not into being spied on.. now if your talking about stand by mode once again my ps4 can do that and more… Try turning on your Xbox from your work place with your vita and playing a full game hahah that’s right u can’t.. MS loaded up there system with pointless features… They focused there whole promotion on the xbone Kinect voice and hand gesture control and the tv features well Sony has just as good of a camera and I don’t need a game console to watch the cable tv I already pay for I’m ok with using my tv remote to switch my game to tv

Randall Johnson

Another person buying into the spying hype. You aren’t that important…most of us aren’t that important.

You don’t seem to understand the benefit of switching between TV and games without switching inputs. I don’t even have cable and I can understand this. And yes, standby mode is the only thing the Xbox One can turn itself on from, and only with “Xbox on”. The in the dark thing I mentioned is the biometric sign in when you walk into the room while it’s already on. Can the PS4 do that? And if it can, can it do it in the dark?

And if you’re playing games while at work, you obviously aren’t working. I don’t go to work to play games that I can play when I get home; I go to work so I can support a family and possibly buy more games.

All the PS4’s camera is good for is streaming the player while he or she is streaming the game. That’s it.

waveloch

It’s not about being important it’s about monitoring people not just one person dumb ass im sure the guy who just got fired from his government contracting job didn’t think he was that important when he was searching how to make his son a homemade airplane and Google auto corrected his search to how to make a homemade bomb and he was fired.. u feel good about that Kinect and Turing it on in the dark I’m so happy u can do that I’ll stick with my ps4 gddr5 and all around better system and the work thing was just an example but when u own a business to support your family and don’t work for someone else making them money you can do what u want so if I feel like playing some cod ghosts on my vita at work during my 16hr day I can because I make the rules but owing a business is hard and takes long hours to make it work. Sony has real features like remote play.. after a 16hr day I spend the rest of my time with my family and don’t need to even turn on my system cuz I got my game time in that’s a real feature so no I don’t see the benefits of switching right from a game to tv. using my tv remote to do so literally takes 2extra seconds maybe less since my smart tv is almost as fast at xbone

Randall Johnson

Oh, where to begin…

First off, if you own your own business, you don’t need to work a 16 hour day. If you do, then you need to hire some people to lessen that time. You’re not getting enough sleep, and you’ll end up exhausting yourself. Also, if you own your own business, I hope you spell better in your official business documents, because I wouldn’t do business with you if you write like you do on here.

Secondly, Throwing out “gddr5″ as a reason for the PS4 being better is a cop out now. Oh, no, it can do 1080p in a lot of games! Whoopty doo. If you’re playing it on your Vita’s screen, you aren’t getting ANY benefit from a higher resolution.

Now, on to the whole “spying” thing. Sure, the government watches us; everyone knows it. But if you think someone’s going to sit there and listen in on my Kinect while I’m either a) not home, b) sleeping, or c) playing a game or watching Netflix, then you should probably adjust your foil hat. The guy who lost his job (who was a contractor, by the way, not a government employee) is suing the government for a breach of civil rights, disclosure of private information, and retaliation, among other things.

You can sit there with your PS4 and think it’s the be all, end all, but I’m just happy with my Xbox One, slightly lower system specs be damned.

PS. In relation to your original comment about the PS camera vs the Kinect, the Kinect isn’t mandatory for system operation. Microsoft bundled it with every system because they believe in it. I don’t see Sony bundling their camera with anything, anywhere.

waveloch

I own a small businesses and I work the hours needed to be my own boss with my own money I also would not do business with u.. I can’t write or spell and you can’t read I did say the guys was a government contractor read. And my mista

luzzjl524

My Uncle Sean just
got Audi Q7 by working part-time off of a pc. see B­i­g­2­9­.­ℂ­o­m

Ok, lets look at last gen. The ps3 was proven more powerful in specs than the xbox. But look how that turned out? Specs and all that kinect vs eye crap doesnt mean anything.

waveloch

Ps3 used a cell structure processor that developers just now are perfecting so Sony totally shot themselves in the foot with that one but now the devs know how to use it there is a clear difference in game quality from ps3 launch to now and yes it’s to little to late but as of the start of last year ps3 has out sold 360 77million to 76 million. The quality of the ps3 specs are now starting to blow the 360 out of the water with games like uncharted3 and the last of us that in my opinion are as good as the graphics on the Xbox one. I wish I could agree with u that the specs don’t matter because I owned a 360 first and loved it till I got rrod, then on a second system and then a third I was done paying for xbl when I had went through 3 systems in two years that’s pathetic so I was hopfull when the next gen was announced till I saw the specs inside both systems and the price points. I would love to own both systems but I cant bring myself to pay an extra $100 for for an xbone when its got lesser graphical capability, runs hotter and boots slower then the competition

PS2 was/is AMAZING,CLASSIC

BULLLLLL…..SH!T…Lots pf people thought the PS3 was faster..or somehow “better” because it came out later and was also more expensive…The reason it was such a freaking monster is because of the 1000$ Cell Processor, great for helping the FBI crack security or whatever, but strange to run a game on…It also had a GPU from Nvidia in the 2005-6 Geforce 7 series, near the top of the line in that series…The 360 had a similar card but from ATI, the X1800XT…However ATI put some new DirectXfeatures in it, that beat anything out till like 6 months- 1 year after release…It was the bridge between the X1000s and X2000s. DirectX 10 in fact, was basically the 360 API converted to PCs…sorry for all the tech talk but my point is the 360 had stuff that wasn’t even around in its time, and PS3 had the same time’s stuff, and there was nothing special about it (Okay, the Cell and Blu-Ray disc, but nothing special in GRAPHICS SPECS)

ogeezus

You sound like you’ve been bent over so far back and completely destroyed from the rear by Microsoft. #SteamOS ftw

Anti Randall Johnson

Randall Johnson aka mr. XBONE YOUR AN IDIOT.

Randall Johnson

Really? You created an account aimed at me to reply to a year-old comment just to call me an idiot? Wow, I’m internet famous now.

Also, it’s “you’re”, you troglodyte.

angel

Lol i usually don’t reply to comments on Web but you don’t have your facts. I can use my mobile phone and i don’t need to buy yet another product. Everyone has a phone and you can simply download xbox one smart glass. Turn on console, start a game, watch my friends clips, and other features. You get this with your tablet or phone you don’t need to purchase a vita. We know the king of handheld is nintendo.

waveloch

I can see why u would not normally reply to a comment because your a down and out retard if u think turning on your Xbox with your phone app is the same as playing a full on game on vita. I can also turn on my system with a phone app check friend requests and so on, Nintendo is for sure the king of handheld systems the vita itself is not too impressive but add remote play and I can play my ps4 console games anywhere that has WiFi on my vita that’s totally on a different level then your phone app maybe Xbox will add support for the nvidia shield but from what I have seen it sucks.

angel

I don’t care about playing games on a handheld. I can have Similar Feature Without Having To Purchase A vita, just like you don’t care about the kinect. I am not here to convince anyone on their purchase. Also if you are far from your wifi the experience lags. So if your playing at work you will have to be playing platform games that It don’t require much, so it does not lag as much. So if you work from home that would not be an issue.

waveloch

No lag at all the ps4 is in standby at home and is using the WiFi network from my HOME and when I’m at work my vita is using the WiFi from my WORK you following me lil buddy?!?!? So unless both the networks are slow as shit no there no lag and I’m playing cod ghost not some free ps plus game, and if anyone worked from home and had time to play a game why would they use the vita u could just use your system

Coltron

Who cares about a Ps4 camera or a Kinect? 90% of people who purchase a gaming console purchase it to GAME. Microsoft tried to make their console “the go to” thing. As far as gaming goes, it fails horribly. Ps4 blows the Xbox One out of the water and this year will prove it, just wait and see. All the features they tried to implement into the Xbox One just slow it down, too many operating systems, too much going on.

Coltron

Who cares about a Ps4 camera or a Kinect? 90% of people who purchase a gaming console purchase it to GAME. Microsoft tried to make their console “the go to” thing. As far as gaming goes, it fails horribly. Ps4 blows the Xbox One out of the water and this year will prove it, just wait and see. All the features they tried to implement into the Xbox One just slow it down, too many operating systems, too much going on.

I have tried both and assure you the xbox one voice are better, also ps4 has to close out of an application while xbox can switch back and forth and not have to reopen the entire game. Don’t believe what everyone tells you, and if you tried it yourself you would know that you can’t use the voice commands in the same format the xbox one does. I can open 10 apps and they are all where I left them. I can’t do that with ps4. I’m a gamer I’ll play both at least give real facts and help some one make a decision by putting valid information.

Phobos

battle the steam machine? you mean a pc plug to the tv then. By the looks of it the steam machine looks less and less attractive, if you already have a pc capable of playing games.

lubba

Its possible steam machine can be a threat.

justerthought

Possible, but it has an awful lot to prove before it can be considered a threat. One of the big negatives is the fact that it’s an open system with different manufacturers making their own version. This could lead to varying reliability and a lack of cohesion across it’s eco system. It could just end up a mini PC connected to Steam meaning that it won’t be any threat at all. PC’s are already now threat because consoles offer a totally different experience due to the consistent reliable closed system.

Phobos

Plus it’s going to be expensive.

IKROWNI

Source?

Phobos

are you that fucking retard?

IKROWNI

Well the ibuypower steam machine is more powerful and costs $500. Where did you find any other articles describing prices? I’m just curious as to where you acquired your information. Or is it just more Phobos bullshit?

Phobos

$500?? link pls

IKROWNI

Yea man NP I can easily link that for you. My statements are created through research. Not made up assumptions.

Now after you get done reading facts would you be so kind as to link me those articles comparing decibal/temp differences between the consoles and steam machines? I mean you did sound pretty sure about the statement you made when bashing the steam machine.

So the question is I showed you mine are you gonna show me yours?

IKROWNI

Yea man NP I can easily link that for you. My statements are created through research. Not made up assumptions.

Now after you get done reading facts would you be so kind as to link me those articles comparing decibal/temp differences between the consoles and steam machines? I mean you did sound pretty sure about the statement you made when bashing the steam machine.

Brad Chacos
@BradChacos Nov 26, 2013 6:17 AMprint
For all that we already know about SteamOS and the Steam Machines it powers, Valve’s ambitious effort to drag PC gaming into the living room has been mostly shrouded in mystery since its announcement. Consider the hardware: Sure, we know details about a handful of prototype devices Valve itself is making, but retail Steam Machines will be made exclusively by third-party PC makers, and we don’t even know which PC makers are embracing Steam boxes—until now.

Late Thursday, custom PC maker iBuyPower unveiled a prototype of its own Steam Machine. Underneath the sleek white exterior—which the Verge says is “bigger than a PlayStation 4 but smaller than Microsoft’s Xbox One”—lies a fairly potent gaming rig, with a multicore AMD processor, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, a 500GB hard drive, and an AMD Radeon R9 270 graphics card (which costs about $180 retail all by its lonesome). More good news: The power supply is integrated within the body of the Steam Machine, rather than relying on a bulky external power brick.

iBuyPower told Engadget that the setup hits at least 60 frames per second for all currently available Steam titles at 1080p resolution. Higher frame rates mean a smoother gaming experience. and 60fps is considered silky-smooth. Common HDTVs max out at 1080p resolution, but you’ll probably need to drop the graphics detail settings from “Ultra” to “High” to hit that 60 fps frame rate in the most cutting of cutting-edge games.

There ya go your welcome for googling that for you!

Phobos

oh you mean that R9 270 the same that is found in the ps4 lol

IKROWNI

The big difference is that they have already tested it to work with all steam titles at 1080p @ 60fps, it will be compatible with oculus rift, supports any input device, can run windows along with steamOS, and in about 4-5 years when more demanding games are made it can be opened right up and a new GPU can be slid into it giving you top tier 4k gaming. Your pathetic inferior consoles will never do 4k will never support true VR, and will be stuck with the same graphics you see on it right now. So come on Phobos pull some more lies out of that stanky ass!

Please try to justify your next gen consoles not being able to runall games at 1080p 60 fps on medium settings while this machine hits those standards at ultra settings for the same price. And that’s without mantle in play yet. Its gonna be soo much nicer with mantle in play because then a 7770 will most likely shit on your consoles and it only costs $70.

Phobos

I laugh at you again and again. Steam titles, how many of them are really that demanding? not all of them that’s for sure. So in 4-5yrs your going have to upgrade to a new video card and possible a new PS so that steam machine won’t be $500 any more but more in the $700-800 yeah very economical vs a console. And so we go back again if you have pc why do you need a steam machine?
Oh and that oculus you can shove it as well, is not out yet and yet you predict it as if its going to be a success, pathetic.

IKROWNI

Wtf is wrong with you man the most demanding games there are happen to be on steam. Do you honestly believe your console could run a game like arma 3, or crysis at max? Or any of the hundreds of titles that could only run on pc at max?

Your failing to understand upgrades! You don’t HAVE to upgrade at all. You can buy a pc right now for $500 and play all the same games as a console at the same settings for 10 years with no problem, but if you want to play the newest games 5 years from now when new tech development breakthroughs come out you have to upgrade. You can turn down the settings the same way the consoles do and play the games in shit settings if that’s what your into.

As far as the rift goes it is already out and being used by s whole lot of people and its the development version that people have nothing but good things to say. You can order one right now with no problem. When the consumer version is released its going to be way way better than the one everyone is already boasting about.

Your a pathetic liar, and not a very good one at that!

Phobos

my god, are you fucking delusional. You never answer my question to begin with. IF YOU HAVE A PC ALREADY WHY DO YOU NEED STEAM MACHINE? unless it’s ultra crappy and you can’t upgrade it. You talk about it’s $500 steam garbage why not save around half of it and just upgrade your current pc? The games you point out suck balls and no one plays them., have fun playing MP alone.

IKROWNI

I never said once that this is a system for people that already have a capable pc. I’ve stated time and time again that the steam machines are more for the people who are console fanboys to make an easy transition from an inferior gaming system to a much more capable system! GOT IT!????!

Name one very very demanding game on consoles? To my knowledge there are no demanding games since everything on consoles are see to medium level graphics. I would love to see your brand new consoles run crysis 2 on ultra 1080p 60fps that’s hilarious it would most likely catch the console on fire! Your “next ten consoles would choke playing arma 3 on low settings at 720p.

Now hurry and find another stupid assed comment to reply back with.

You never back any of your lies with anyany links because you can’t no one writing an article would ever say any of the retarded shit you spew!

I am now convinced your just one if the millions of 12-14 year old little kids that scream into there mics on consoles. Never in my life have I heard someone lie and rant utter bullshit as often as you do!

Phobos

Who gives a shit(only you though) on any of the games you mention wheather they can run them at 1080p 60fps on a console? They suck next to Halo, Killzone, God of war and all the exclusive titles consoles tend to have. For as much as I like gaming on the pc I don’t see the point in upgrading and playing console ports.
So there, now reply back with your usual long boring ass comments no one finish reading.

Phobos

are you that fucking retard?

IKROWNI

Source?

JaiGuru

Yeah, they’re making a lot of the same mistake Ouya did.

IKROWNI

Mantle

Phobos

an easier way to describe mantle, it’s going to be a lot easier to port console games to pc now. Not like it used to be.

Alex

Most likely it won’t. Steam machine it’s just a PC in a small form factor.

IKROWNI

Same as consoles except ms/Sony tell you what you are and are not allowed to do with your property.

IKROWNI

Consoles are nothing more than a pc hooked up to the TV so what’s the difference other than the steam machine having millions more features.

Phobos

less heat, less noise, less space require, less cable management and no KB and mouse need it. And those so millions more of features steam os have are garbage so you can shove them.

IKROWNI

Where do you get this data Phobos? Could you link me to the data that shows the decibal levels comparing the consoles to the steam machine? How about a link showing the temps of the consoles while idle/gaming compared to the same for the steam machine? Aren’t the steam machines smaller than the xbone but larger than the ps4? Space saving huh? So the pixxl steam machine is more of an eyesore than the consoles? And finally a keyboard and mouse are not needed but available. The steam machine can use Xbox,PlayStation, or any other gamepad along with oculus rift or whatever input you want. And those millions more functions also include creating games for your consoles so I will gladly shove them retard!

Phobos

so if I offer you a cold beer do you want data and a thermometer to prove its cold? Get fucking real.

tgrech

That’s pretty different. We all know for a fact that you can get Steam machines that are cooler and quieter than an Xbone/PS4. I could probably make one right now in about an hour. The PSbone is far from being particularly power efficient, especially compared to previous gen consoles.

Phobos

power efficient means nothing, if they do you shouldn’t be getting a pc or other electronics as well.

IKROWNI

Where do you get this data Phobos? Could you link me to the data that shows the decibal levels comparing the consoles to the steam machine? How about a link showing the temps of the consoles while idle/gaming compared to the same for the steam machine? Aren’t the steam machines smaller than the xbone but larger than the ps4? Space saving huh? So the pixxl steam machine is more of an eyesore than the consoles? And finally a keyboard and mouse are not needed but available. The steam machine can use Xbox,PlayStation, or any other gamepad along with oculus rift or whatever input you want. And those millions more functions also include creating games for your consoles so I will gladly shove them retard!

justerthought

That crude statement means you know nothing about the details of what makes each system unique. If only life was as simple as you. That’s like saying all cars are equal because they all have 4 wheels. Would you buy an F1 race car to drive through the city to work, it’s only a car with 4 wheels running on petrol or gas.

Phobos

I take IKROWNI didn’t finish reading my comment, what’s the point in buying the so call steam machine if you already have a pc capable of playing games?

IKROWNI

None really. The point is for people who don’t understand all of the functions and upgrades they get having a pc as appose to inferior consoles.

Phobos

OMG are you a total waste, but here we go, if you already have a pc capable of playing games why do you need the steam machine??

IKROWNI

If its roughly the same price as your ford tempo then yes I would, especially since the gas is 80% cheaper.

Alex

Yes but the steam OS. You are confuzing it with Windows. From what I’ve seen Stem OS doesn’t have more features the the xbox1 and ps4 systems.

IKROWNI

The steam machine isn’t locked down so you can install windows as dual boot. Opening millions of added uses.

justerthought

The PS4 will be the long lasting machine. The hardware spec is spot on first time and extremely powerful. XB1 is fatally flawed in the hardware, embarrassingly underpowered and it cannot be changed ever, so expect a new XB2 in 2 years time to properly take on the powerful PS4, which will get a slim version.

Can the PS4 be made any smaller? It appears be really close to the optimum design first time out the gate. It’s a design masterpiece and a beast in terms of power.

IKROWNI

Both consoles are severely underpowered.

GrievousAngel33

Embarrassingly under-powered? The 360 was under-powered compared to the PS3 and it did fine–dominated in North America, in fact. These things have the same basic CPU, GPU, and RAM. Yes I understand there are slight differences in speed in favor of the PS4, but they are in the same conversation. This is a silly, silly comment.

streetsports

Developers e now starting to use the esram in pretty awesome ways…a cashe with the possible bandwidth that even this small amount is capable of helps a ton with multiple things including graphics…in the end we’ll find out that they do the same exact thing in different ways. Don’t forget about the cloud which will only get more powerful/useful over time.

Brian Lee

Well looks like that should be an easy win for Sony, since devs have admitted ps4 is easier to code for. That’s what made it hard for ps3 out the gate. Plus a year behind and more expensive. But they still out sold xbox 360 in the end; due to a more powerful machine with better exclusives. Now ps4 is out earlier, is cheaper, has already out sold xbone, is more powerful, easier to make games for, more consumer friendly and is far more desired. MS never even had a chance.

GrievousAngel33

Barely outsold. And the 360 blew away the PS3 in North America, the biggest and most important market. 360 was loser to 2-1 over PS3 in North America. And, yet, the both camps were successful and both sides were happy. I had both, for the record, and may end up with both this time. I do not understand your fanboyism.

Brian Lee

I was responding to lubba’s xbot comment about MS lasting longer even though it has ddr3, lesser graphics card, and slower cpu. And it looks like a VCR. So next time read the whole convo before making a snap judgement. Just to respond to YOU by saying, I had both as well. I had rrod and it was hell getting a new one from MS. And then they respond to consumers by giving you the middle finger with the whole drm. So if a bad experience with xbox makes me a sony fanboy than yes I am!

GrievousAngel33

Fight the good fight, buddy. You’re making the world a better place. And the megaconglomerates thank you for your free servitude. Maybe the PS4 will outsell the XB1–IDGAF. If it makes you feel good about yourself, then bully for you.

Brian Lee

You’re welcome.

Brian Lee

Also who gives an F how many were sold in the US, overall the ps3 sold more. So because YOU live in the US all other countries dont matter. Thats pretty Egocentric of you. Also a hypothetical for you: Lets say I make a million dollars and I made half from the US and half from over seas and then YOU make a million dollars all in the US. So I guess your milluon dollars is worth more than mine. What sense do you make xbot?

GrievousAngel33

Are you dense? 90+ percent of the people on my friends list were from America. That’s the point. Most people in America–the people you actually play with–bought Xboxes. Xbot? Grow up. And when sony starts sharing some of that cash with you, the amount they make will be relevant.

Brian Lee

Wow I’m dense? You just made yourself look stupider by your own demise. You want to know why 90% of your friends are from America, dimwit? BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN AMERICA! In the words of Red, “DUMBASS”. When you play online, they try to best match you with people fits your style within your region, you idiot. Sometimes you might get shot to the farther out but do you really think your gonna play on a Japan server or in Europe? But again your an egotistical piece of trash and no one else matters. Im glad your not in politics, lol.

GrievousAngel33

You really are kind of stupid. You make a big deal out of worldwide sales, I counter that the Xbox outsold the PS3 in North America, you ask why that matters and call me egotistical, I answer because that’s where we play, and you respond with the same answer–I think.

Brian Lee

I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I? Are we gonna keep calling each other stupid? I mean you are actually making yourself sound stupid but you can’t help yourself because of MS brainwashing you. And you are discounting all other countries. So yes you are egotistical also.

streetsports

360 held the sales lead for 6 years and the ps3 was extremely expensive to produce. Lost money on each box sold even though it was released @ $600 because of its extremely hard to work with IBM cell processor…

Devin Runyan

The problem there is that Sony is getting a lot more and better 3rd party support….

streetsports

What do you mean? Accessories? Or developers? Look at id@xbox….over 30 actual developers so far…ms has games won so far

You are flat out wrong

And everyone will get those games late thanks to Microsoft’s cancerous release date parity policy.

MS deserves to be drop kicked out of the industry.

waveloch

Umm naughty dog is a Sony first party exclusive developerer and I’m pretty sure every game to come out of that studio has been game of the year.. uncharted 1,2,3 and the last of us… Sony is taking the belt this gen.. xbone already needs a redesign just to match what’s in the ps4 at launch

Sterling Ross

This comment is balanced even it it favors xbox, do not tread down below this if you want a balanced look at anything though. It’s a forest of trolls fanboys and 3rd grade intellectual discussions on why their choice is “choice” .

Phobos

We can only wait one or two years until they release a slimmer version of the XO and PS4, it would be interesting to see if the Kinect is going to get smaller or build inside the console as one instead of being separate.

justerthought

Or maybe kinect will be dumped altogether and made an optional extra for a more game focussed experience. I don’t even think the XB1 will make it to slim status. They need to bin it and release an XB2 with more gaming grunt.

chojin999

These fake next-gen consoles are already obsolete, so cheap to manufacture with bad quality components (so the high failure rate) that any new revision/redesign to get even cheaper would only mean to suck more and more.

chojin999

These fake next-gen consoles are already obsolete, so cheap to manufacture with bad quality components (so the high failure rate) that any new revision/redesign to get even cheaper would only mean to suck more and more.

Dozerman

What’s wrong with the steam machine?

streetsports

The only people interested in it are PC gamers who already own PCs with better hardware…and they are just now figuring that out…lol

Daydreamer

Not true. I am a PC gamer AND a console gamer and I knew 6 months ago the Steam machines would be ‘pre-packaged’ computers. So did all my friends. Additionally, if any of these PC manufacturers decide to mass produce their Steam-box it could very easily become cheaper to buy one than to build one.

justerthought

But it’s still a mini PC connected to steam. That fact alone means it does not compete with what the closed system consoles are offering to their user base. Steam machines are no threat at all until they prove otherwise and they have a lot to prove.

Just having the graphical grunt means nothing if you do not have the consistency and cohesion of a closed system eco system.

One of the reasons why the console has a good power to price ratio is because it makes efficient use of the hardware. Steam machine will include all the failings of the PC and waste processing power due to a lack of efficiency in the architecture. PC architecture is burdened by the fact that it is a general purpose machine, so the hardware has to be universal allowing headroom for different user configurations and uses.

Donnie

You would like to think that the PC is burdened, but in truth, consoles are barley more efficient than a PC that isn’t running 3d rendering in the background, and in a year’s time, will be left in the dust of new PC architectures and the plummeting costs of lower end hardware that still beats the “more efficient” consoles.

This “consistency and cohesion” that you keep stammering on about is also nothing more than a shitty excuse for feeding uneducated buyers unimproved hardware and software for over a decade when there is so much more out there that is available that is simply better.

Drivers abstract away any differences that crop up in hardware between generations, so keeping the hardware the same year after year really doesn’t do anything for the programmers; DX9 coded software will run on 50 dollar GPUs today faster than 500 dollar GPUs when it first launched without any input from the devs. Any added coding from the studio that created the game is nothing more than housecleaning.

In the end, consoles don’t survive because they are superior; consoles survive because of multi-billion dollar ad campaigns and uninformed grandmas that don’t understand what there is out there. “Just buy what the TV tells me” seems to be the status-quo.

Alex

“You would like to think that the PC is burdened, but in truth, consoles are barley more efficient than a PC that isn’t running 3d rendering in the background, and in a year’s time, will be left in the dust of new PC architectures and the plummeting costs of lower end hardware that still beats the “more efficient” consoles.”

Absurd. The 7 year old consoles can still run 2013 AAA titals. That is efficiency and optimization doing it’s work. Nobody can deny that.
PC are inefficient because of the hardware wariety. Try to run games with with 250mb of ram for example. You simply cant. Even 2gb ram it’s not enough anymore.
PC games will never be as efficient as console but who knows Mantle could fix that. We should wait and see.

“This “consistency and cohesion” that you keep stammering on about is also nothing more than a shitty excuse for feeding uneducated buyers unimproved hardware and software for over a decade when there is so much more out there that is available that is simply better.”

Consoles are promising at least 5 years of gaming without upgrading your system.
If they change the system every 2 years the consoles lose their perpouse man. So you are saying something that an educated man shouldn’t.

Devin Runyan

Exactly…if I wanna spend that much money on a computer I will spend more and order the parts and build it myself. I spent 2K on mine that I have now and will never buy a prebuilt one again.

Then there are those who can’t afford it and won’t buy it..so as of now I’m not sure who will buy the Steam Machine..

IKROWNI

Its for console “gamers” to easily make the transition from inferior vtech toys to pc.

streetsports

Huge section for sony and 1 pic of the 360….crappy article once again.

s3ltzer

Waaaawaaaaaawaaaa….

justerthought

Stop being so butt hurt and paranoid. There’s only 1 pic of each console if it has had a slim upgrade. Sony have made more consoles than MS, and had more slims, so they obviously have more to show.

What do you want them to do, show mulitple pictures of a 360 to pad out MS’s hardware input. I don’t think the first xbox got a slim version anyway so you can’t show that. The XB1 got shown with the PS4 because the article is looking back at slim versions to predict the future. If you didn’t know that then learn to read.

streetsports

The 360 came in more than one form…you missed that I think. Also no pic of the original xbox

John Smith

The original Xbox never had a slim version, so there is no need to show it.The only thing that MS changed with the original Xbox was the shape of the controller.

Mirimon

Doesn’t matter, every form of an ex -Box is crap, Only illiterate sheeple play XBox.

IKROWNI

And when he says Xbox he means consoles

s3ltzer

I doubt Sony will redesigned the PS4 anytime soon…perhaps in about 3-4 years. The XBox One is screaming for a redesign. MSFT was betting for the sheer size to take over as a media center. That’s backfiring since the PS4 is easily outselling the XBox One.

IKROWNI

They should redisgn it now and put new hardware into it that’s not half decade old. Not throw a bunch of old junk hardware that can barely reach the performance of a laptop from 5 years ago.

Hates bad writers.

It was designed to stay cool. You’re a moron to complain about a chassis, end of story. God forbid a company designs something to last longer for you, idiot.

Betting sheer size would help it take over as the one system in everyone’s media center? What are you completely retarded? That doesn’t make any sense. You must be one of the Sony fanboys from N4G, now that wouldn’t surprise me.

You are flat out wrong

Which is why the Xbone runs hotter at full operation than the PS4 does.

What a load of crap the Xbone is.

Hates bad writers.

You know you can look at the pictures from a FLIR camera, right? It will 100% agree with me, and completely disagree with you. Pictures don’t lie, the PS4 is a hot running device, hotter than the Xbox anyways. Both seem to be handling the temperature just fine, one is just hotter, and I don’t see why you need to cry about it like a fanboy. It’s a harmless fact.

What’s next, your’e going to tell me the PS4 is a better shade of black? You N4G Sony fanboys are absolutely priceless. My number one website of choice when I need a laugh.

You are flat out wrong

Or you can actually use scientific means to see that the Xbone runs hotter at full operation. Which Eurogamer did. Whoops!

“easily outselling” is one of the greatest exaggerations of the entire console war thus far.

Hates bad writers.

We should also mention that both consoles are smashing their predecessors launch records, they’re both doing fine in terms of sales, and to say one is better because if it is just retarded.

Call of Duty sells great, hasn’t been good in a while. Mass Effect 1 sold alright, one of the best games this generation. Sales are nothing, it’s a shame only a few of us get it.

https://www.youtube.com/ButtonBros TheRedButterfly

Couldn’t agree more.

Jewy McJew

I don’t mind the look of the Xbox One, but it’s hard to believe that was the cumulative effort of over 30 designers!

Mirimon

IMO, then revision of the Xbox One will take it from VCR to a much smaller answering machine cassette recorder.
The PS 4 will be just a bit thicker than the 1st son I-pad.

dranzer1

We do know that Ps4 has more power in terms of gaming but which one will last more in terms of 10 years due to problems with overheating and stuff. Xbox One is the one with one of the largest cooling fans..

waveloch

And for what it still runs hotter them ps4

Randall Johnson

It uses up (slightly) more power. It doesn’t run hot, at all.

zapper

Dont buy any American product ; these are all rigged by NSA & CIA and you are the target. And watch out for any drones near your children.
:-)
Surveillance comes free as a Christmas gift with every American product.

Person

Why do you care if the NSA is watching? What could you possibly do that you dont’t want anyone to see? Have you realized that NYC is a lot more safe now? Since 9/11 all of the terrorists attacks have gone down. This is because of the government watching us and making sure that the people who attempt these attacks fail… So in reality the NSA is helping you survive… You should be thankful for them! If you disagree lets see you defend a terrorist attack without using these systems….

IKROWNI

Link to 1 time the NSA has stopped a terrorist attack since 2001 please. So would you mind if the NSA setup a camera in every room of every home along with a microphone? How about embedding a GPS tracking chip into your hand so they can see everywhere you go?

Would you like me to install a rat on your pc a can help make sure you don’t ever get any viruses I just need access to all of your data.

If you honestly believe the NSA has your best interests in mind your a sheep and deserve to be put in a camp where you await being stuffed into an oven.

Where were the NSA during Sandy hook, aurora, Benghazi, Boston bombing?

streetsports

Whatyou speak of is called a cell phone

IKROWNI

Oh really! I thought that what was implied smartguy. Anyone else have a hard time putting that together?

zapper

To Person
So if in future NSA decides to put a microchip in your body, would you agree? (The number of the devil 666) w/o which you wont be able to buy or sell or do any activity. If you dont resist now, you will become a slave to govt. authorities.

zapper

To Person
So if in future NSA decides to put a microchip in your body, would you agree? (The number of the devil 666) w/o which you wont be able to buy or sell or do any activity. If you dont resist now, you will become a slave to govt. authorities.

Donnie

Hmm… This website seems to have an unusual number of console fanbois…

John Smith

Every gaming site has that problem anymore. I guess fanbois have this superiority complex about their respective boxes of plastic and wires, when they essentially do the same things…play games. Sure there are other features that are exclusive to each individual system, specs of one may be better than the other, and one console might have better exclusive games or DLC, but I don’t understand all of the hate between gamers about consoles. Does having one system over the other make them a better person or benefit their life in some way that makes them superior to others? No. When someone tells me that they’re getting certain console that they like or want, then I am genuinely happy for that person. I am happy that they are in a place in life that they can have such luxuries, regardless of whether I want that particular console or not. I am happy that they can share in the glory of the one thing that we all have in common…the love of games.

Does it make someone’s system work less effectively or rob it of some of it’s features if someone says something negative about it…? Absolutely not. On that same turn, does bragging or boasting about a system make it play games better or add special, exclusive features…? Again, no. All of this hatred between fanbois on both sides and rushing to the defense of companies that only want your money, accomplishes nothing except making the internet a more tiresome place to come to. We live in one of the greatest times for games that there has ever been, and all some people seem to want to do is tear each other down over which box they play their games on.

47iscool .

Although I’m not big on FPS games, mouse and keyboard beat controllers any day of the week.

Matthew | Siggy

I honestly don’t think that the Xbox One would lose it’s input and Kinect aux. I think Microsoft’s vision for the Xbox One is to be an all in one system. So if they got rid of those integral parts, they would have to rename the system.

JaiGuru

The day it drops the ethernet ports is the day PS is no longer a viable gaming console. Only assholes use wireless connections for online gaming.

James Tolson

lol, i still have my FAT 40gb ps3, looks and plays as good as the first day i bought it (which was only in 2007? i think) it does me fine, excellent bluray player.. i won’t be buying any so called “next gen” console, thats it now :-P

erty-werty192

First of all the PS4 does not need a redesign at the moment since it’s already similiar in size to the PS3 slim and slightly lighter…Xbox One on the other hand is in serious need of a redesign due to its size. Not saying one is better than the other, that’s just my opinion.

Anthony K Aurelia

I kinda agree. I def think it needs the ability to be put on its side. I think they built that way to ensure no RROD. It is quiet as hell though.

erty-werty192

First of all the PS4 does not need a redesign at the moment since it’s already similiar in size to the PS3 slim and slightly lighter…Xbox One on the other hand is in serious need of a redesign due to its size. Not saying one is better than the other, that’s just my opinion.

Jacob

Or you could all grow up and stop having an “argument” over something that nobody will win and nobody cares. Of someone likes one or the other shut up and play your game instead of wasting time arguing with CHILDREN! I have an Xbox One and they both LOOK amazing graphics wise and design wise. These machines were built for power not DESIGN.

PS. HAVE YOU SEEN PC GAMING RIGS!?!? YOU IDIOTS SHOULDNT EVEN BE HERE… The bulkiest system out there and most of the time loud as hell.

You are flat out wrong

Xbone will get bigger in order to displace the massive heat it generates. Which is AWFUL because it’s big as a house already.

TheHumanHerd

You should probably all just shut the fuck up. Why do PC fanboys always find a way into a discussion about consoles? If I wanted to be a PC gamer, I would be. I grew up playing consoles, so I buy the new console every generation. Get over it. PC gamers are far worse than console gamers, because they constantly feel a need to brag about their system. No one gives a shit. Just shut the fuck up and play your damn games.

Coltron

To the people who do not already own a Ps4, are you really going to wait 3 or 4 years just to purchase a redesigned version? You’ll be behind on all the games and your friends will have already moved on to the newer games. I own a Ps4 and my dad owns a Xbox One, and let me tell you the Ps4’s performance and graphics are at least 3x better than the Xbox One. The lighting, shading, textures, FPS, everything overall is better on the Ps4. Also, the install times on the Ps4 are way better compared to the Xbox One. I had to wait 3 hours while installing Dead Rising 3 (offline) and after playing it for only 30 minutes the Xbox One froze. Sound familiar? New Xbox same old Xbox problems (overheating). To the author of this article, Grant Brunner, you really need to read up on your facts. The Ps4’s hard drive is already upgradeable and it’s a very easy process. The Xbox One, on the other hand, does not have an upgradeable hard drive. Who wants to wait 3-4 years for a bigger hard drive when you can go buy a 1TB Samsung hard drive for $80 and install it in your Ps4 in minutes? Double your memory for $80 or wait 3-4 years and spend another $300-500. You decide.

eternallord

d u think that Multiplatform games on PS4 will always look and be better ? , its only a launched games , i guess u 4got how multiplatform games were on PS3 ESP in the first 3 years….

Socket77

I have to ask this but what the F@@k is a Steam Machine?

http://www.facebook.com/GrandxAzinxMasterx Kevin Phan

Kinda bashing the Steam Machine at the end there buddy? I don’t see your consoles having backwards compatibility besides the early PS3 and wii (at a limited extent) and there are plenty of variety to choose and upgrade or downgrade to, not just one or two simple revisions.

Zachary Hebbert

it’ll look the ame as the old one, let me tell you something man they like to keep it quiet but they’re still not on their final design if you look at their amazon page notice closely that there’s a Launch Edition, New Year Edition and a February Edition it only shows up on the Canadian website though

Ben Statham

I think the XBOX ONE will bomb this generation. It’s drowning and has lost much of it’s credibility from all the 180s and the Kinect which has been a failure since the 360. I don’t know any serious gamer that doesn’t despise the Kinect and certainly don’t know anyone that uses it. WHY they persist with it in this sales-driven World amazes me.
With all the money they’re losing trying to compete with Sony I don’t know if it will go any further than what it already is. It certainly wont be able to hang in the gaming department for long, but that’s okay considering it’s not even a gaming console to begin with lol.
However why Microsoft STILL cannot design a machine that wont die on you from overheating without having an external power brick is simply insane.
Ooo look at me, I’m an Analyst! Lol.
Don’t take offense in a moment of pathetic fanboyism though. My 360 is a beautiful machine minus all the advertisements and I don’t even own a PS3. However that was last gen. This generation any serious and well-informed gamer will jump to Sony’s superior PS4. The writing is on the wall and Sony has the better machine. Simple fact.
As for that console’s redesign I hear the controller is wearing out super fast and the shape of the console itself is also that of a glorified VCR. There is obvious and sneaky intent behind this design though. It makes the inevitable redesigns that much easier to come up with which means more money in the long run from continued sales and those who feel the need to upgrade to the latest thing.

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