Just got a heads up that the T-Mobile BlackBerry 9700 might have been pushed back to a November 16th launch. Not confirmed, though. Pricing is confirmed, however, at $199 with a two-year agreement and $449 for full retail . On the Samsung side of things, we’ve heard the Samsung Behold II running Android will launch on November 18th with a $249 price tag (on a two-year agreement, of course).

The full pricing for the bold 9700 isn’t too bad actually. I had to pay around $530 with tax for my tour on vzw so after bending over for that $450 + tax doesn’t seem all that painful. Let’s not forget that the 9700 is waaaaay nicer than the tour too.

Ricky Jr.

WTf.?
250 for the behold2.?
what’s that about..what happened to the 199 standard.?

matt

It doesn’t matter. People will probably be financing their phones from now on with the Even More Plus plans anyway.

carlos

WHAT>????? NOVEMBER 16TH . That really sucksss..I have been waiting for this blackberry forever, and my brithday is on the 9th that really blows

http://bit.ly/aplclps AngryChineseDriver

If you want it on your b-day, come up to Canada; generally we get it a week before the Americans.

Chris

All of these delays with the 9700 is only going to make me want the X3/X10 or whatever the final name for the darn thing is more.

I hope that a carrier will hurry along and release the 9700 before my Bold pulls the plug on itself.

http://www.myspace.com/arkitekt83 nuBfoneGeek

That price isnt bad at all, I expected $550. With Tmo’s new 20 month phone payment plan + 500 min+ unlim txt & web I’ll be paying under $100/month. Right now with cricket I pay $60 but have sometimes spotty web and slow txt, plus Im using an old(yet highy modded) motoQ, the form and button layout of the Bold is darn near exactly the same. Tmo here I come!

http://techstbooks.wordpress.com colin

Agree – $450 off contract doesn’t seem that bad.

http://about.bloomberg.com/ dand

perhaps we will see a side by side release with the Nokia N900. *dreams*

Drew

That would be insane!! That’s the only phone on the planet (Nokia N900) that would make me pass up the 9700. My wife is getting my Javelin, so it’s a relatively done deal, plus I’m waffling as it is and I really don’t want to stand in that store room floor and go back and forth between those two. That would suck for me!!!!

maxpayne79

Off to a great start with the 9700. Rogers or Wind or Bell better not be pushin nuthin back cause im-a gonna go conan the barbarian on these mofos. I wants my phone damn it! Like seriously, is it really that hard to make deadlines? U think I’d have a job if I couldn’t make a deadline? Can’t we all just get along? Haha

Adam

How is it that AT&T get all the good phones? Tmo can’t even get the one good phone they have released on time!

http://www.orderdynamics.com Steven

I heard through a friend at Rogers that they too are postponing the release by 6 weeks due to buggy firmware

tremor

The new BGR layout is dreadful…so cluttered and amateur looking. Wish they would switch back.

RB

For $250 the Behold II better step up to the plate and deliver.

I’m not sure what’s up with TMO and delays. I’m chomping at the bit to get my hands on the N900 whenever that’s released since my Curve is acting up.

The longer the delays drag on the smaller their share of the holiday market. Rolling out Project Dark from a Plan side seems nice but without the new handsets it seems incomplete and ill timed.

cnote221

THe push back might hurt tmobile a bit I think sadly to say… There probably many like myself who are not under contract with there current carriers and will switch just to get the device they want. I personally wouldn’t go to AT&T but you can see the what would happen in weeks time. Maybe, maybe not?

Adam

People who switch carriers JUST for a device are stupid, period. Especially when it is because they have to wait an extra week for the device they wanted. Add to that list grown men who still make a big deal of their birthday :)

Adam

Oh, and do not hold your breath for a N900 launch. There are no current plans to release it on TMo USA. Even if that changes, it won’t be this year.

Jeff

I’ve been waiting for months to get a 3G smartphone that could do UMA wifi calling, and the 9700 was supposed to be it – one problem – tmobile dropped hotspot@home and UMA calling for new accounts as part of project dark. On much of the east cost, no UMA means no coverage. Bye Bye. t-mobile.

ML

What’s the big deal? You had to pay $9.99 for it in the past. So if you were going with the 1000 minute plan then just pay $10 more for the unlimited and it will still work with UMA. The only reasoning behind being upset is if you were going with the 500 minute plan. I don’t use 500 mins, but I’m not going to drop down that low and risk it.

Jeff

The big deal is that I was told last night that it is not an option to get the 9700 and use UMA, hence no coverage inside my house. I was told that only current users of wifi/uma phones and hotspot users will be grandfathered. Which plan you use does not matter. Look on the t-mobile web site at the phones, and you will see that “wifi calling” is no longer listed as an option.

BK

@Jeff
the UMA is no longer an add on, but it still works with all plans. It just counts against your minutes. So if it’s a solution for spotty coverage, you no longer have to pay the ten bucks for the service. If it’s to get more minutes at a cheap rate (i.e. using the phone primarily on the web) then you probably have to upgrade to more minutes. They should do a better job explaining that to their customers.

Matt

how do u no tmobile stopped doing UMA ? if this is true thats a bad move

Matt

i dont get it though , if the phone has UMA built in wont it automatically connect to it ? and some lines on my account are using a phone with UMA now so will i be able to use it on the blackberry

Jeff

When I saw that “wifi calling” was no longer listed as an option for the phones, I called t-mobile.

Drew

This phone will still utilize UMA. You will still be able to use UMA for calling. The point will be moot if you have unlimited minutes, which is being promoted heavily by T-Mo with “Project Dark”. No worries my friend…

abi

I dont see that much of a problem for the behold 2 it does have that great cam and the amoled screen hey big ups plus android

abi

@ Adam on tmotoday they have the sheet of the n900 for tmobile around November they just dont want to release the date cuz it keeps being pushed back

Mankato

Anyone knows what kind of processor Behold 2 is going to have. $250 price tag suggests it might be little more powerful than MyTouch.

darkprince

Be thankful the Behold2 isn’t an HTC device – they’ll slap that tired, old Qallcom 528 processor into a toaster. Maybe they already have…

katie

I’m a little upset about the date pushback for the 9700 but the price makes it worth it!!

Behold2

The Behold 2 its suppose 2 be more powerful then the My touch

STFU

NO ONE cares about T-Mobile.

What about att, when is the 9700 coming to ATT?

ugh

Go away.

Drew

Why is there always some f#cktard saying, “No one cares about: (input carrier of choice)?? Ha Ha Ha…Your whinny weiney ass won’t have UMA on your crappy ass network. Do us all a favor and read up on it and quit asking stupid ass questions…. I believe the thread mentions T-Mobile only. I don’t see where it mentions AT&T. But you’re the bright one chiming in….off topic. Kick rocks you f@ck!!!

Koloheboy

Sooo do you think they will have pre orders before the launch date? I hope so

coloradogray

@Jeff

The Unlimited hotpsot calling isn’t being offered as a feature on the EM/ EM+ plans. If you have a grandfathered plan, you can still get the feature of course. This does not, however, mean the UMA calling is going away. UMA always worked with out the unlimited calling feature, and will continue to.

Adam

@abi

I checked TMoToday and the most recent mention they have of N900 is a post stating that it isn’t coming. I myself am going off what a Nokia rep told me. Bottom line: N900 is not coming and it most certainly is not coming in 2009. Sorry.

matt

Well you can buy at full price. It does support T-Mobile’s 3g bands… But $650’s a little hefty.