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When I was in college there was a big dual protest going on with pro-lifers on one side of a path and pro-choicers on the other, all with their signs and yelling and what have you. My friend decided to stand in the middle with his own sign: "Support Spartan Abortions- Kill Ugly Babies!"

It's not necessarily a matter of swearing being the same as killing that the Bible's trying to convey, it's that they are both forgivable if the person is actually willing to ask for forgiveness and that everyone's a sinner regardless of their actions but have to ability to be forgiven.

Catholic doctrine recognizes two different degrees of sins: venial and mortal.

A sin is a break in your relationship with God. Venial sins hurt your relationship with God and mortal sins break it entirely. You'll go to hell if you die with unforgiven mortal sins, but you might not go to hell if you die with unforgiven venial sins.

Both can be forgiven.

However, the Catholic church does recognize the idea of original sin ("everyone's a sinner"). They're not the only denomination to do so.

"Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.” - Mark 3:28-29

This is not in the Bible either. The correct response is that all mankind is separate from God and no difference in goodness or godliness will change that fact. There are verses in the Bible that refer to certain sins being worse than others. Having gay relations is not one of the big ones.

That is nearly correct. There is however at least one unforgivable sin but it is so vaguely defined that you can never be sure if you have committed it or not. Might be God's loophole for arbitrarily sending people to hell.

"Sorry, you rejected the Holy Sprit. You better believe that's hell for you."

Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come

This basically means the only unforgivable sin is permanently rejecting Christ.

I don't know what this guy's exact argument is and I won't defend him or his preaching style, but here is the logical argument that homosexuality is "worse" than some other sins. First, it has to be understood that forgiveness is dependent on true repentence. If you're truly repentent for something you've done wrong, then you'll try to stop doing it. Lying, cheating, etc are sinful acts. You can do them once, honestly regret it and be sorry and ask for forgiveness. Homosexuality is a lifestyle. You can't be in a committed, long-term homosexual relationship and be repentant of it.

I'll never forget the time a guy was trying to sell me something, or get a donation for something. I told him I didn't have any cash. And he said, "Oh, well if you could, would you donate something?" I said "Yes". He busts out his phone with one of those credit-card scanners on it (they were brand new at the time). He called my bluff, and I donated a couple bucks. Wasn't happy though.

it warms my heart to know there's still nut jobs that show up outside the CUB still like they did years ago.. although he seems to be a loner, we used to have a guy show up with his family and tell us about beating his wife and kids with the bible for their sins.

I read in the Evergreen this morning that he was apart of a group of 4 people who have been traveling to campuses across the country. They were in Moscow the day before and going to be in Seattle today.

Yeah, I saw a small Muslim rally here in London doing much the same thing a month or two back. I had my headphones on so couldn't really make out what the guy with the megaphone was shouting about. But as I walked past the only thing I did make out was him saying "...will be PUNISHED!"

Why the fuck did he think that yelling at people about why they should be afraid god would make them turn to the g-unit?

Surely if he said something like "I believe in the big g and I feel happy that my life has some purpose and that there is love in the world." that would be a message that people might want to hear. But no. Punishment.

Stupid asshole.

PS I know it's convention to capitalise the 'g' of god, but, you know, fuck that.

These guys exist at every some college campus[es] on the planet in America. They're trolls well-adjusted members of society, very much like the ones that appear in comment sections and message boards across the Internet. I know that it seems arguing with them seems the good fight,; but they are without reason. All you do is help attract attention to their lunacy have a great conversation with some people in some campuses in some cities in some parts of America.

Just avoid them at all costs have an intelligent conversation with them and move on with your day.

The Christian union at my former university (Southampton) did one better, they'd deliver the toastie to you for free. IIRC there was some preaching involved but most people shrugged it off for free food.

They know there are always a few undecideds in the crowd, and/or someone who just happens to be at a low point in their life. Its their job to punch a jesus shaped hole into people then offer them a jesus shaped solution.

We have one at our campus that sits outside the Student Union all day preaching things (I don't really pay attention). Most people just walk right by.

However, one day I was in the SU getting pizza and I was approached by a two guys and asked if I would take a survey. I had a couple hours to kill and agreed. I don't really remember what the questions were, but as soon as they found out I was non-religious, they had that "concerned" look. They asked me something like "how do you know what is right and wrong?" and I gave a lengthy answer along the lines of the golden rule. We ended up chatting for almost two hours - and at a couple times I saw the look of "holy damn, I hadn't thought of that" come across their faces. It was honestly the first time that I've ever seen someone in a religion debate even come close to questioning their own beliefs. (I should note that I'm a shitty orator, so this is unordinary for me).

I went to a small, private, conservative college. Er... fiscal conservatives, not as much socially conservative. There was a large contingent of spoiled, rich, white males being trained to be "managers". I'm not doing a very good job at explaining this... but we were never treated to any religious zealots :(

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22 KJV)

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. (Leviticus 20:13 KJV)

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. (Romans 1)

I'm not Christian, but those are right in the Bible. I must not get the context, it's a metaphor or I shouldn't take the Bible literally. Take your pick.

For the Levitical texts, there's quite a bit that modern Christians don't follow (mixed fiber clothing, etc etc). Plus, Jesus is quoted as saying his word does away with the old law (ie, the Old Testament).
For the Romans text, that's not a command or law, and it wasn't Jesus who said it. It could also mean to say that the act of having sex with men out of wedlock or committing an affair with a man while being married is what makes it indecent or unnatural. Or the fact that they gave in to purely lustful desires instead of sex out of consensual love.

Despite all of the texts (which are obviously translated from a 2000+ year old story), I still don't see a clear "homosexuality is a sin" message. If they want to claim Leviticus as law to live by, then they have to follow it all just like Jews do with pork, shellfish, shaving, tattoos, etc.

Arrogant? Is that a joke. Religion and tolerance are basically polar opposites. Religion is a very absolute set of truths, morals, and rules that are set by God. There is no room for tolerance because God does not tolerate. It's God's way, or you go to hell.

The dude sounds "arrogant" because he's religious. He believes that his beliefs are the right beliefs and everyone else is wrong. Well, I'm sure Jesus Christ respects his loyalty.

I always wonder why pictures like this have large groups of students listening to them. I think in Canada most people would just walk by and smirk or perhaps have genuine concern and call the police , letting them know someone needs mental assistance.

They stand around and watch because college students generally don't have a lot of responsibilities to attend to, and watching a religious idiot argue with neck-bearded passerbys is actually highly entertaining.

Guys like this show up on campuses ALL over America. They showed up at my school usually on a weekly basis, gathering huge crowds of angry students, yelling and arguing with eachother.

These guys exist SOLELY to piss everyone off they encounter. Their views (if they even actually are views) are so absurd that even if heaven turns out to be real, they would go to hell for being fucking annoying assholes.

There is NO way to reason with these people. Even if you agree with them on things, they'll find ways to piss you off. They're convinced that everyone is a sinner for everything that they do.

The only thing to do is ignore them. Ignore them, and move on with your day. They already look like fools, and only a fool argues with a fool.

We had people like this come to my college in upstate New York all the time. The guy would say really terrible things and students would rally but I believe the ultimate goal was for him to get a student to assault him so he could squeeze money out of the school.

From the bible's standpoint, the "worst sin" Is grieving god's holy spirit. Referred to as the "unforgivable sin." In reality though, the bible has no real ranking for different sins. sin is sin. No matter what you do, the end result will be the same in the bible's eyes. They also tend to be grouped together when spoken of in scripture.

Extra credit: No sin is unforgivable as long as you repent and turn around from doing said sin.
Its 9 am. Idk.

James 2:10
"For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it. "
No sin is greater than another, any one of them is still liable to disappointment/condemnation.
quietly leaves