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What you are saying isn't true. South Dakota at Gonzaga live basketball on right now. Rockets at Lakers at 9:30 ET. College football yesterday.

Most RSNs are junk to most people 90% of the time. Fox Sports Detroit is most of the time Fox Sports "syndicated" junk like Poker, Premier League highlights, Paid Programming, extreme sports highlights, car shows, hunting shows, and numerous Fox Sports RSN national games I couldn't care any less about.

At least that is PROGRAMMING and not just a continuous infomercial for their own games. Just MENTION someone other than Lakers or Galaxy. How about a discussion of a dodger trade? A highlight of a non-Laker, non-Galaxy game.

Great that they do the Laker games and have bought syndicated rights to a couple of other events. It is still an infomercial for itself.

The freakin channel is an infomercial. You don't get at all. It is 100% infomercial for its couple of hours of live programming a week.

For the avid to hard core (like me) Lakers fans should I have a problem with that?

While I concede more original content may be needed in the future to help cut down on some of the repetition, I have no other problems with this channel. Its a virtual 24/7 Lakers channel for their fans.

As have been stated if you are interested in more impartial egalitarianism for coverage of the other NBA clubs, then this channel is not for you and need to go to something like ESPN or NBA TV for that purpose.

Right now IMHO TWC SportsNet programming is no better than Fox Sports West in terms of non live game programming.

Out of the Laker related shows I like Backstage Lakers, Laker Girls, and Timeless Lakers which shows the classic Laker games.It's a whole lot better than having to wait for NBATV or ESPN Classic to show replays of those classic games which happens during the NBA off season.Access sports net and Lake Show honestly have got to improve and what's hurting it is the studio analysts like Dave Miller.Lake show which is a media driven show by twitter & facebook is pretty bad.

As far as the complaints of the channel not having a dedicated half hour show to show highlights & news of other NBA teams and other sports.It's not going to happen since it's a RSN channel and I honestly don't care since I tune to ESPN's sports center, ESPN news channel, or NBATV Gametime for other sports news & highlights.

FSN West in it's early days tried doing this with a show called "The Southern California Sports Report" which covered the Lakers, Kings, Ducks, Dodgers, Angels.The show lasted about 3 years before it eventually got axed from the channel.

I agree though like another member posted earlier that the pre game coverage show is also lacking with it mostly being done from TWC SportsNet in house studio.Compared to how FSN West's live coverage outside & inside Staples Center was in the past.

Right now IMHO TWC SportsNet programming is no better than Fox Sports West in terms of non live game programming.

Out of the Laker related shows I like Backstage Lakers, Laker Girls, and Timeless Lakers which shows the classic Laker games.It's a whole lot better than having to wait for NBATV or ESPN Classic to show replays of those classic games which happens during the NBA off season.Access sports net and Lake Show honestly have got to improve and what's hurting it is the studio analysts like Dave Miller.Lake show which is a media driven show by twitter & facebook is pretty bad.

As far as the complaints of the channel not having a dedicated half hour show to show highlights & news of other NBA teams and other sports.It's not going to happen since it's a RSN channel and I honestly don't care since I tune to ESPN's sports center, ESPN news channel, or NBATV Gametime for other sports news & highlights.

FSN West in it's early days tried doing this with a show called "The Southern California Sports Report" which covered the Lakers, Kings, Ducks, Dodgers, Angels.The show lasted about 3 years before it eventually got axed from the channel.

I agree though like another member posted earlier that the pre game coverage show is also lacking with it mostly being done from TWC SportsNet in house studio.Compared to how FSN West's live coverage outside & inside Staples Center was in the past.

All the Fox RSNs also had the "National Sports Report" which aired during the same time slot as SportsCenter (or an hour before, I can't remember). But anyway, that show failed miserably. Why bother doing something that another network is already doing?

This is why I like the current format of TWCSN. Granted, it would help to have more original programming, but (like other posters have stated) for the hard core fan, Lakers 24/7 is just fine with me.

Seriously we just got to accept & deal with a whole lot of members in here who are outside of the Lakers DMA Zone and have this channel because they are subscribed to D*'s "sports package" aren't probably ever going to be happy with the channel's programming and will always feel the need to voice their complaints over the price of the channel.Oh well.If you don't like it then don't subscribe to D* "sports package" nobody is forcing you to subscribe to it.

I say that because I've been noticing that the most vocal members about the cost & programming of this channel which is only about 2 months old are people mainly outside of the Lakers DMA coverage zone.

Also I watch NBATV a lot and they are literally the king & home of dumb infomercial commercials.The channel itself has slowly improved with the amount of original programming with shows like "Open Court" and "The Association" which is similar to "Backstage Lakers" where NBATV follows & covers a NBA team behind the scenes for a season which is broken up into about 10 half hour episodes.

For the avid to hard core (like me) Lakers fans should I have a problem with that?

While I concede more original content may be needed in the future to help cut down on some of the repetition, I have no other problems with this channel. Its a virtual 24/7 Lakers channel for their fans.

As have been stated if you are interested in more impartial egalitarianism for coverage of the other NBA clubs, then this channel is not for you and need to go to something like ESPN or NBA TV for that purpose.

I have a problem with TWC NOT showing replays OF LAKER ORIENTED NEWS by only showing Kareem's live unveiling ceremony only one time while showing multiple repeats of Lakers/Suns, Lakers access, etc. This is supposed to be the Lakers channel, there are many people who want to tape it or just view it again but can't because they keep showing the same damn thing. Lakers play Houston tonight, same thing, Lakers access, Lakers pre-game, Lakers/Rockets, Lakers post game, rinse, lather, etc.The Kareem ceremony should be shown more than once because it's a once in a lifetime moment......a moment that will echo for many years to come.

As one who is getting somewhat impatient with the wait for CSN Houston, if this were a different thread, I'd normally say something to the effect of "Stop the gloating and shut the heck up!;)", but given that this is the Lakers thread, I'll simply offer my congratulations and my wishes that those in the Houston DMA can soon enjoy their own team action!

"We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force." - Ayn Rand

As one who is getting somewhat impatient with the wait for CSN Houston, if this were a different thread, I'd normally say something to the effect of "Stop the gloating and shut the heck up!;)", but given that this is the Lakers thread, I'll simply offer my congratulations and my wishes that those in the Houston DMA can soon enjoy their own team action!

Yeah I understand your frustration.

Hopefully D* reaches an agreement with them.

But there seems to be bad blood between Comcast & D* since they don't carry the Comcast RSN channels in Houston, Portland, and Philly.

But there seems to be bad blood between Comcast & D* since they don't carry the Comcast RSN channels in Houston, Portland, and Philly.

I grew up in Southern California, so much of my youth was spent watching Jerry West, Gail Goodrich, Wilt Chamberlain, Happy Hairston, and Elgin Baylor, among others, at the Fabulous Forum or listening to Chick Hearn's incomparable radio broadcasts. I'm just jealous that the Lakers are back on DIRECTV and the Rockets aren't.

"We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force." - Ayn Rand

Good evening ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Great Western Forum! No stadium announcer quite as good as Mr. Tanner. No broadcast announcer as good as Chick! Many great memories and a few tears for me at the Forum.

Do you think TWCSN will show some classic vintage games from the Forum?

Good evening ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Great Western Forum! No stadium announcer quite as good as Mr. Tanner. No broadcast announcer as good as Chick! Many great memories and a few tears for me at the Forum.

Do you think TWCSN will show some classic vintage games from the Forum?

His name is Lawrence Tanter and he still works as the arena announcer at Staples Center.

Crap. Other RSNs started with highlight shows and at least mentioned other teams in the same league.

They do a good job on the games but to deny that it is a weak channel otherwise is just being blind.

I think you are wholly overreacting. It's a new channel; it's not going to have a significant amount of programming. So what if other RSNs started out with highlights shows? They were generally some crappy FSN highlights show. I don't see a reason to get so worked up about it when all you have to do is put on ESPNews to catch the highlights.

I have been a DirecTV subscriber since 2005.

A few channels I'd still like to see DirecTV add are:
CSPAN3, the PAC-12 Network(s), BBC World and more international news channels.

I think you are wholly overreacting. It's a new channel; it's not going to have a significant amount of programming. So what if other RSNs started out with highlights shows? They were generally some crappy FSN highlights show. I don't see a reason to get so worked up about it when all you have to do is put on ESPNews to catch the highlights.

Which brings us right back to the point that kept the channel off DirecTV for so long. To anyone other than a die-hard Lakers fan, the channel is not worth $0.02. Outside of the Lakers territory, the games are blacked out, and other than the games, there is nothing on the channel. At least Fox Sports South has SEC football and basketball and ACC basketball (they also have ACC football, but in recent years, "ACC Football" has been an oxymoron).

I think you are wholly overreacting. It's a new channel; it's not going to have a significant amount of programming. So what if other RSNs started out with highlights shows? They were generally some crappy FSN highlights show. I don't see a reason to get so worked up about it when all you have to do is put on ESPNews to catch the highlights.

Maybe I'm spoiled. My two non-FSN channels had more programming from day one than a slick channel based in the center of the entertainment industry. I can understand how they can't find the talent to put on simple things like highlight shows as they cannot find anyone capable of doing it as a new channel.

I only pointed out a flaw. Those overreacting are those who think I was taking a position that the channel is evil or something.

Do you think TWCSN will show some classic vintage games from the Forum?

I believe they showed Game 7 of the '88 Finals vs Detroit a few weeks ago. So, I'm pretty sure they'll air more of the classic games at the Forum. However, what I really hope they would do is to show the footage with Chick announcing the games, rather than the national broadcast.

I believe they showed Game 7 of the '88 Finals vs Detroit a few weeks ago. So, I'm pretty sure they'll air more of the classic games at the Forum. However, what I really hope they would do is to show the footage with Chick announcing the games, rather than the national broadcast.

You mean you don't enjoy Dick Stockton and Tommy Heinsohn, and their unflappable biases favoring the Celtics? I watched game 6 of the 85 finals, and those guys were a piece of work, I had forgotten how bad it was.

I saw that replay late on this past Saturday or Sunday and it was nice seeing it again.

That 1985 championship run meant so much to every past & current member of that team that year because we finally beat Boston and they stuck it to them and celebrated on their home floor at the old Boston Garden.The Lakers to this day are the only team to clinch a championship on Boston's home court !

My Dad & Uncles always have fond memories and told me stories about that years Laker championship run and how much it meant to them.

For me though and for a lot of the new generation Laker fans avenging the embarrassing 2008 NBA Finals loss to the C's and winning a unforgettable 2010 Game 7 on our home court was just incredible and will last forever.

For me though and for a lot of the new generation Laker fans avenging the embarrassing 2008 NBA Finals loss to the C's and winning a unforgettable 2010 Game 7 on our home court was just incredible and will last forever.

That's my favorite championship ever. My father was on his last days from fighting cancer. He "hated" (in a fun way) my serious fandom of Kobe. We'd always watch championships together, but he was to ill this time. He was so happy I had the Lakers to watch at such a hard time to escape reality.

The morning of June 16th, I told him the Lakers forced a game 7.

The Lakers won game 7 on June 17th and I told him the great news late that night on the morning hours of June 18th, but he was barely conscious.

Later, the night of the 18th, my Dad passed away...

If you stop responding to them or put them on ignore, then eventually they'll go away.