Travis' Primordial Performance's Dermacrine + Epidrol Synergy Log

Wow got a good nights sleep and weight was up again this morning. Still felt pretty rundown during the workout tonight. Ear ache has been giving me headaches and ****. Much better today then yesterday though.

Dosing right now is 4 pumps Dermacrine every morning. 10mg Epidrol in the morning, 20mg pre-workout, and 10mg's pwo.

Legs tonight:

Did the squat rocker thingy again
5x8 worked up to 8 rep max on the thing
Wide stance squats
4x8 135/145/165/185
Leg Extention
4x10
Ham Curls
4x8 worked up to 190
Calf Raise
2x10 2 plates

Right now sorta. The first week I took 30mg Mon-Fri, then off Sat & Sun. This week I have taken 40mg's everyday and I may just keep taking the same dosage everyday from here on out. I am only going 4 maybe 5 weeks. Need to decide though...

Right now sorta. The first week I took 30mg Mon-Fri, then off Sat & Sun. This week I have taken 40mg's everyday and I may just keep taking the same dosage everyday from here on out. I am only going 4 maybe 5 weeks. Need to decide though...

So I got a lot of sleep this weekend and I had a great workout today. Still using 4 pumps of Dermacrine every morning. I upped my epidrol dosage to 50mg's as of today. 20mg's in the morning, 10mg's at lunch, 10mg's pre-wo, and 10mg's pwo.

Just did arms today, nothing special but the weights were up all around and I felt very aggressive. Like so agressive that I found myself talking **** to the weights as I lifted them....

BTW, the Dermacrine seems to be helping libido a lot. Its as strong as ever and by this time my last havoc/epidrol cycle I didnt have a very good one.

I have noticed some shedding but nothing big so I picked up some 1% nizoral today. I'll begin using that tomorrow.

So I got a lot of sleep this weekend and I had a great workout today. Still using 4 pumps of Dermacrine every morning. I upped my epidrol dosage to 50mg's as of today. 20mg's in the morning, 10mg's at lunch, 10mg's pre-wo, and 10mg's pwo.

Just did arms today, nothing special but the weights were up all around and I felt very aggressive. Like so agressive that I found myself talking **** to the weights as I lifted them....

BTW, the Dermacrine seems to be helping libido a lot. Its as strong as ever and by this time my last havoc/epidrol cycle I didnt have a very good one.

I have noticed some shedding but nothing big so I picked up some 1% nizoral today. I'll begin using that tomorrow.

To confirm, your last Epi cycle was only Havoc correct?....if so, how would you compare the Epidrol to Havoc at this point?...better or the same?

To confirm, your last Epi cycle was only Havoc correct?....if so, how would you compare the Epidrol to Havoc at this point?...better or the same?

I would have to say at this point the Epidrol is better than Havoc.
Libido is higher, much higher. Workouts are very aggressive. I did get sick for a few days on my Havoc cycle so that may have slowed things. So far my weight is going up much fast with the Epidrol+Dermacrine combo.

Then again I am using the Dermacrine for all the negatives I experienced using Havoc. So I have to give the Derm some mad props so far. Oh and I should have mentioned the weight gain doesnt appear to be much fat!

I forgot to weight myself this morning, but still had a great workout tonight. Did shoulders:

I would have to say at this point the Epidrol is better than Havoc.
Libido is higher, much higher. Workouts are very aggressive. I did get sick for a few days on my Havoc cycle so that may have slowed things. So far my weight is going up much fast with the Epidrol+Dermacrine combo.

Then again I am using the Dermacrine for all the negatives I experienced using Havoc. So I have to give the Derm some mad props so far. Oh and I should have mentioned the weight gain doesnt appear to be much fat!

I forgot to weight myself this morning, but still had a great workout tonight. Did shoulders:

Not lifting today. Must have tweaked something in the gym yesterday b/c I am not able to turn my head to the left quickly and my left upper trap and neck are really sore. Doesnt feel to serious but figured a day off and a bunch of cissus was necessary.

It's interesting that you feel as though the negatives of the Havoc/Epidrol (since they are the same stuff really) have been allevieated by the Dermacrine.

I was thinking about taking Orastan-E (Gaspari) while on the Dermacrine. I want to stay away from the methylated stuff and go with something a little safer.

What do you all think would be a good combo with:

1. Dermacrine
2. Dermacrine Sustain post cycle.

I was also thinking about taking Carbolin 19 (anavar wannabe) continuosly and ZMA at night.

Also thinking about using SizeOn and SuperPump from Gaspari.

Boom, honestly I am not that familiar with some of the unmethylated stuff. I know epidrol/havoc/epistane are relatively mild methylated compounds. I would just suggest reading threw the threads on here and see what fits you best. I think the Dermacrine would be great with just about any oral out there. Seems to keep things steady for me.

I doubt Carbolin is anything like anavar result wise but Im sure it wouldnt be harmful during cycle. I however would pry use it in PCT, but I dont know much about it so I'm just throwing that out there. ZMA is good shat all the time.

BTW, just an update but weight is staying between 214 and 215 the last couple days. My neck feels fine (a lil tight), but I did chest and tri's yesterday. Pumps are lasting into the day and I feel very aggressive. Lethargy is still an issue at times but not too bad. I'll update again later today with my workout from tonight.

Things are still going good. Weight has stalled, but that is probably due to my diet lately. I havent eaten as much the past week and a half so I need to get back on that. Some days I look in the mirror and think I am making progress, and other days not so much....not real sure. Thinking about making this last 5 weeks though.

Still applying 4 pumps Dermacrine every morning, upped the dosage of Epidrol today to 50mgs. Libido is still great, and today I felt very "on", even at work which is where most of my lethargy has been lately. Sides are virtually non-existent!

Things are still going good. Weight has stalled, but that is probably due to my diet lately. I havent eaten as much the past week and a half so I need to get back on that. Some days I look in the mirror and think I am making progress, and other days not so much....not real sure. Thinking about making this last 5 weeks though.

Still applying 4 pumps Dermacrine every morning, upped the dosage of Epidrol today to 50mgs. Libido is still great, and today I felt very "on", even at work which is where most of my lethargy has been lately. Sides are virtually non-existent!

I do seem to be packing on some size now. Specifically in the traps and arms. Which is good cause my goal was to gain some arm size. I'll maybe post some progress pics Friday when a girl friend brings over a digital camera. Should be better than the starting pics.

Just a quick update. Weight is holding between 216-220. Didnt lift the last couple days as I have come down with a pretty bad cold. I am shoveling in vit E & C and pinning B12 to help fight it.

On a good note, I ran into a bunch of old college friends who havent seen me in 3+ years. I got an unbelievable amount of compliments on my size/transformation. Obviously they were not based on just this cycle but it was motivating. The last time most of these friends saw me I was about 140-150lbs.

Hit shoulders yesterday and legs again today. I am now into week 5 of this cycle. Honestly I still seem to be making gains in terms of weight and strength however I dont see it in the mirror.

I am basically running this until my Dermacrine runs out. I must have not been using enough because I still have a few days worth left in the bottle and it states you should have enough for 30 days. I also upped my Epidrol dosage to 70mgs as of today. No sides to speak of except a little shedding! I am still not too excited about ending this cycle.....I dont like being NOT ON ya know!

[QUOTE=Travis;987253]Hit shoulders yesterday and legs again today. I am now into week 5 of this cycle. Honestly I still seem to be making gains in terms of weight and strength however I dont see it in the mirror. [QUOTE]

I never made huge weight gains but I did see good strength gains and I definitely added some lean muscle on this stuff.

Have you felt much in the way of increased sex drive or aggression. I feel it pretty strong when I'm on this stuff.

I never made huge weight gains but I did see good strength gains and I definitely added some lean muscle on this stuff.

Have you felt much in the way of increased sex drive or aggression. I feel it pretty strong when I'm on this stuff.

Yeah, it seems like strength gains are really coming along now in the 4 and 5th week. Last time I used havoc I really didnt experience much in terms of strength but my cycle was lower dosed and shorter.

Sex drive has been awesome...but I actually attribute that to the Dermacrine cause it seems higher during the day when I am dosing the Epidrol lower. I really like the Dermacrine, and I'm pretty excited about using Sustain in my PCT.

Today I definitely had that ON feeling. I had a great workout in terms of aggressiveness. Weight this morning was 219.5 so I am definitely doing right on my bulk. I'll pry wait until PCT is over to get my BF tested again.