Good fun. Bit bold at the start but there is plenty of gear (managed to place Andrew's entire rack), it's just a bit fiddly to place. Took the right hand finish as the direct finish looked nails. Felt soft for E2.shed_hed - Lead O/S - 06/Jul/14 with Andrew Cherry

still a bit dirty from ze rain but its fine...more like HVS/E1, if this and Suicide wall route 2 are the same grade I'll eat my smelly pants....believe that more gear will come you are never going to die on this route! easier than Isengard HVS in the lakes which is equally if not more bold!Duncan Campbell - Lead O/S - 16/Jun/10 with Crad, Ben Reinsch

good route, soft E2 never mind E3, minor epic retrieving rope after duncan threw the rope down only to get it stuck :DBennykr - Lead O/S - 16/Jun/10 with Duncan, Cradmire

a lot more gear than it looks from belowDave Rumney - Lead - 14/Jun/09 with Sean Roberts

Hidden - Lead O/S - 31/May/09

Would be HVS if it wasn't a bit spicey at the start. Definitely no harder than E2. Not the best climbing compared to other things on this crag.mattyork2 - Lead O/S - 30/May/09 with Andy Reeve and Robin