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~ the john viener hate club ~

that smug asshole who writes and voices on family guy. his voice is used as pretty much every generic male voice since season 5 and it's the SAME. FUCKING. VOICE. EVERY. TIME. seriously, even major one-time characters like new brian. even when he attempts accents, like with vladimir putin, it STILL. SOUNDS. THE. SAME. EVERY. TIME.

he also wrote the episodes "The Perfect Castaway", "Untitled Griffin Family History", "Movin' Out (Brian's Song)", "The Man with Two Brians", "Jerome Is the New Black", "April in Quahog" and "Tiegs for Two". see a pattern? they all fucking suck. someone kick his untalented ass.

Why does this need to be a separate thread? Untitled Griffin History was alright, The Man with Two Brians was decent as well, Movin Out had it's moments, and Perfect Castaways I haven't seen in years but remember liking it (of course then I was mindless stupid teenager who thought Family Guy was comedy gold).

Originally Posted by Bart Flimpson's Dracula

Like Seth MacFarlane's addiction to creating terrible new shows, Matt Groening has a problem with concluding a show. He needs therapy.

there's no proof that he made anything really bad though. he may have, but i don't see the point in blaming a single person for the downfall of the show.

Really? There's this one thing someone posted in The Simpsons section that was proof that the showrunner has more control over the writers than the writers themselves. Also he may not have but it's been a VERY weird coincidence that the show got more violent/gory, the animation got more "2D" and stiff, the show tried to have more emotional moments, less musical numbers, etc. Idk seems like TOO far of a stretch but we'll see what happens next season to see if Appel changes any of that. If he does then I think we've got our answer...

Really? There's this one thing someone posted in The Simpsons section that was proof that the showrunner has more control over the writers than the writers themselves. Also he may not have but it's been a VERY weird coincidence that the show got more violent/gory, the animation got more "2D" and stiff, the show tried to have more emotional moments, less musical numbers, etc. Idk seems like TOO far of a stretch but we'll see what happens next season to see if Appel changes any of that. If he does then I think we've got our answer...

the animation becoming stiff is not his fault at all... it's the changing economics of television.

the animation becoming stiff is not his fault at all... it's the changing economics of television.

That's just bull.....look at Futurama's animation that right there should prove to you that it's not "the changing economics of television" say what you want about new Futurama but the animation is still damn gorgeous on that show. Hell even American Dad isn't as stiff as Family Guy is (also uses more colors).

futurama's animation isn't as pretty as it used to be, and even then, the show was canceled because it COST TOO MUCH and aired on a cable channel at ten. family guy isn't as expensive to animate and is on a major network. that's why it's still a success and doesn't have the threat of cancellation.