The major difference for me between 2000 and 2013 is represented by the responses to this thread. Grass roots rugby league is now played at a healthy level all over the UK and Ireland. It is up to us to buy the tickets and with the support of the correct sponsers and champions (like Sir Bradley Wiggins) show everyone how superior our game truly is!

have a look at 2m - the camera pans round from pitch level. There are very few gaps - although a pitch level view isnt great for seeing gaps. Either way the angle doesnt hide 13k empty seats.

Your right the shot at 2mins looks totally different from the part of the clip from 1m20 to 1m30 of Club Wembley under the scoreboard. I'd take the latter as being more representative as its a close-up so you can see the detail. Even the lower tier has red seats empty.

My group has even discussed just watching the game on tv in a pub when a few pre match ales have taken hold, even when we've spent £30 on tickets, 2 nights hotel, fuel etc. Luckily its never come to fruition. I'd go on my own and leave them in the pub.

It's not daft to discuss if they are on sale or not for the biggest sporting event this year.

i wasn't referring to that but the daft " all club wembley seats are counted fact, no they are not fact" roundabout

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Not sure if the delay to the announcements of TV deals is good news or bad news. It may be that more companies have recently come into the reckoning (BT Sport) or it maybe that noone wants them. Anyone know anything???

Not sure if the delay to the announcements of TV deals is good news or bad news. It may be that more companies have recently come into the reckoning (BT Sport) or it maybe that noone wants them. Anyone know anything???

AFAIK the BBC are said to be covering the tournament though it is disturbingly absent from SKY RL promotion reels.

Kick off times matter, if like me you live in the other end of the Country, then kick off times are important meaning the difference between an overnight stay or a day trip. Equally fans from Humberside might make their decision to attend subject to kick off times in Lancashire / Cheshire and vice versa.

Alternatively, we could could all be waiting for discounted ticket offers......

I am an oil trader and successful at that but, but marketing, finance, business management, human resources etc are not my strengths

AFAIK the BBC are said to be covering the tournament though it is disturbingly absent from SKY RL promotion reels.

Kick off times matter, if like me you live in the other end of the Country, then kick off times are important meaning the difference between an overnight stay or a day trip. Equally fans from Humberside might make their decision to attend subject to kick off times in Lancashire / Cheshire and vice versa.

Alternatively, we could could all be waiting for discounted ticket offers......

no broadcaster has been officially confirmed, so no broadcaster will be advertising it on any of their promos. I wouldnt read anything into the fact Sky are not advertising it.

no broadcaster has been officially confirmed, so no broadcaster will be advertising it on any of their promos. I wouldnt read anything into the fact Sky are not advertising it.

personally I'd be happy to have it split between sky/bbc so that both will promote it when broadcasting their part of the club game.

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Encouraging to see the top tier at Millennium Stadium has now been opened up. Being honest, the games that have to get good crowds for the 'general public' to view our tournament as being a success are, the opener, all England's pool games, the Australia v Ireland match in Limerick, the Wembley double header and the final.

The positive thing is, Wembley, Millennium and Old Trafford all seem to be selling strongly this far out.

Encouraging to see the top tier at Millennium Stadium has now been opened up. Being honest, the games that have to get good crowds for the 'general public' to view our tournament as being a success are, the opener, all England's pool games, the Australia v Ireland match in Limerick, the Wembley double header and the final.

The positive thing is, Wembley, Millennium and Old Trafford all seem to be selling strongly this far out.

coolio. The top tier in the millennium is the bees knees, perfect view

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