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Before my corp got its shit pushed in by goons, we were building up a pretty good wormhole site. So basically mining and sitting in chat talking all nite.After losing our 3rd wormhole we started doing cosmos missions. I was also doing a lot of rep grind for research points. I missed out on roams that my friends did all the time.

I prefer to think of Early Access as the cancer and people that buy into it as the lesions...

What skin is it off of either of your noses what other people do with their money? Cancer? Lesions? Really? Could we be a little more dramatic here?

These are not AAA games being published here. And you two are probably some of the first ones bitching about the state that MMO's are in today. If we want Indie devs to develop games without corporate money influencing the design, then the money has to come from somewhere , right? What is wrong with people who believe in a game, from trying to support the development of that game? That makes us a cancer?

Seriously I don't get how you people seem to think that these games just grow on trees or that the stork will deliver them to you. Grow up!

Having said that, the OP's whining is just as childish. You got what you paid for OP. If it wasn't to your liking thats too bad. Say what you want about the game but don't come here complaining that you got ripped off when you should have known exactly what you were paying for. A chance to play a game in Alpha.

Butt hurt?

I do not care what YOU do with your money, YOU can do what you want. What I have issue with is gamers as a whole buying into this crap. Buying access to alphas/betas, working cash shops in alpha/beta, these are problems we gamers have made worse. Instead of telling companies to launch finished product, they just lie to us and say it is alpha or beta. How low must the bar go before more gamers realize they are just exploiting us with clever buzz words and paid reviews.

There many ways a company can get funding, selling alpha/beta access for a broken unfinished game isn't one I think we as gamers should support. You are not really buying alpha/beta, nobody can be so blind to believe that? They are selling the game they intend to fully launch with, they just lie to us calling it alpha or beta so we don't get mad and demand refunds. I do agree that the the OP got what he paid for and crying about it is childish.

Calgor, please state how selling millions to lossing millions of players is not a failure? When you have shut down at least half of your servers due to low pop is not a failure how? Tortanic was coined for the mess for a reason. Has the game recovered, nothing like it was at launch, but the bleeding stoped and is now making money. The game as a whole is not a failure, but the launch was.

I'm gonna make a prediction, if this game has early access with a fully functional cash shop, you will most certainly be Archeage'd.I certainly hope they realize that being a niche game, that have either have to be sub based or f2p with p2w cash shop. Hope for the sake of these forums they go sub model like Eve online.

My prediction is that IP's will be sold off. Technology created by SOE will be kept and used to help other tech the new owners currently own.As for Smed, I want to hate the guy, but I know being the boss is not easy. I want to blame him for SWG, but it is documented that all decisions on content and direction for that game were done with only the approval or request of Lucas Arts. Dark horse comics, had to get pre approval for every storeline they produced. Lucas arts kept close eye and a tight grip on their IP.A lot of Smed's value and work will prolly never be seen or known to us. I imagine one of the reasons he has been kept around for so long is that he simply is able to get things his bosses want done. He has to handle aspects of the company we are not privy to. Like my boss, he gets a lot of hate and blame for the issues in a certain area. What the complainers do not see is that this guy is working 12 hour days, talking to customers to keep their business, negotiating with the owners to keep the doors open, dealing with H.R. issues, crap none of us see. Thankless job, tons of stress and responsibility.Did SOE mismanage SWG, yeah they did, but the deathblow was a directive from Lucas Arts for that "iconic" crap they wanted. Will Daybreak survive intact, I doubt it. There will be blood, that is for sure.

As a pvp'r, I have always disliked battlegrounds or any form of group dueling. I have a hard time seeing moba's and battlegrounds as a pvp setting. They are more akin to group dueling. I prefer an open world where pvp is something meaningful. I miss the days of raiding rebel bases in swg, defending my guilds keep in aoc. I don't miss seeing my corps wormhole stuff getting blown to bits, but pvp meant something, it was rewarding. Each event was a story we would retell when we would go out for beers, I never once had a convo about my battleground game.

All paid alpha/beta tests are marketing BS. Companies know that people will pay to play games in a broken state. By calling the games alpha/beta, they get the excuse to hide behind releasing unfinished games. Also the added benefit of fanboys will scream, "it is alpha/beta, they are fixing it! You just have to give them time!"This whole new process is a sad joke. Companies release console games in unfinished states now, so this plague is crossing over from PC's.

Will be interesting to see what happens when players start doing charge-backs on the airdrops. Really don't think the bank is gonna care for SOE's explanation. A customer used a merchant and with real money, purchased virtual items with the understanding they would receive them. Due to mechanics within the game, the customer was denied the virtual items.My guess, the banks will take the money from SOE.

You did not provide enuff details to be to determine if it was truely the OS. Was the laptop purchase at the time when 8 was new? What were the specs of of the laptop? There are many factors that affect what you are complaining about.

I have read a lot of the comments here today, and have a hard time seeing the airdrop as p2w. From what I read, you pay for a store item. You have a random chance of getting items in this drop. This smells like a lotto ticket. A form of gambling. So, what is worse, p2w or gambling?