around 130, dunno bf. i was getting a beer belly and my friends were saying i was starting to get fat.

fucked around working out w/ friends for a couple months last summer. they taught me how to use the pec dec to work my 'lower chest,' how to 'shock' my trap muscles, how to drink soy protein post-workout, and how to skip leg day

found the forum last fall, did an HST bulk for 6 months (3 cycles) to 152 @ 17% bf (sorry no pics, lost my camera during that time) on 3500 cals (wasn't as strict as i should've been, cost me some gains)

just took a leg shot. not where i'd like to be, squats became my new fav exercise but only after i started cutting, haven't pushed myself till now. just started doing deads instead of reverse hypers last week. looking forward to making leg progress next bulk.

overall i wish i bulked longer. noob mistake. cutting after 6 months was my original goal so i decided to stick w/ it. but at least i know i can bulk and cut with some success and i learned what mistakes not to repeat.

more importantly, all this bullshit cutting is going to make me appreciate my next bulk. no more complaining about eating too much, i'm going to savor every greasy bite.

areas i think i need work: chest, think i need to work on bench form. legs, lats, posterior delt. any other suggestions?

my long term goal is 155 @ 8%

thanks to all the mods and everyone else who ever posted anything useful. thanks to pur for the carb cycle info.

I know its appropriate for his weight, I was just asking what his personal opinions were on it. When I was down to 150, I kept asking myself if I really wanted to eat so little everyday to cut and so little to maintain it.

I know its appropriate for his weight, I was just asking what his personal opinions were on it. When I was down to 150, I kept asking myself if I really wanted to eat so little everyday to cut and so little to maintain it.

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it didn't bother me at all, i've been running ecy from day1 of the cut.

if anything, i'd usually end up eating less than 1600-1800 cals b/c i i'd fall behind on my diet due to school (class till 11pm) and wouldn't feel like playing catch up at the end of the night.

it didn't bother me at all, i've been running ecy from day1 of the cut.

if anything, i'd usually end up eating less than 1600-1800 cals b/c i i'd fall behind on my diet due to school (class till 11pm) and wouldn't feel like playing catch up at the end of the night.

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ec really helps as far as energy and appetite suppression. Eating 1500 calories to cut was a HUGE pain in the ass. Especially when I was hanging out with friends and eating out or eating with my host family. So I ended my cutting early.

ec really helps as far as energy and appetite suppression. Eating 1500 calories to cut was a HUGE pain in the ass. Especially when I was hanging out with friends and eating out or eating with my host family. So I ended my cutting early.

This thread makes me feel fat.

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yeah i feel you, i'd always have to rearrange my cheat days b/c my friends would always take me out drinking. one of them's a bartender and it's pretty much free. plus cuz of the diet i was getting plastered way more than usual.

you can't see it in the pics but i've got a cut on my forehead from drinking last week. i was plastered and passed out in my friend's car at the end of the night and he picked me up, carried me over his shoulder, and walked up the stairs to his apt.

but when he got to his door his legs gave out b/c he did squats that day and he ended up dropping my limp body headfirst on the concrete.