If Gravity is in effect, the Pokémon is given an Iron Ball '''or uses a contact move and hits an opponent with the ability Mummy''', the opponent has the Ability Mold Breaker, Turboblaze or Teravolt, or it is affected by Gastro Acid, Skill Swap*, Entrainment*, Worry Seed, Simple Beam or Smack Down, the effectiveness of Ground-type moves is 2×.--[[User:Rabitsd|Rabitsd]] ([[User talk:Rabitsd|talk]]) 12:03, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

If Gravity is in effect, the Pokémon is given an Iron Ball '''or uses a contact move and hits an opponent with the ability Mummy''', the opponent has the Ability Mold Breaker, Turboblaze or Teravolt, or it is affected by Gastro Acid, Skill Swap*, Entrainment*, Worry Seed, Simple Beam or Smack Down, the effectiveness of Ground-type moves is 2×.--[[User:Rabitsd|Rabitsd]] ([[User talk:Rabitsd|talk]]) 12:03, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

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Due to special coding in place in the article to illustrate Rotom's forms, certain displays will change showing Rotom as though it had possessed nothing, therefore being Normal Rotom. This will only affect the artwork shown in the infobox, the type-themed color displays, the anime image shown, the manga image shown, the base stats entry which is unhidden, the Pokéathlon stats entry which is unhidden, the type effectiveness entry which is unhidden, and the moves noted as STAB for this Pokémon. This changes every day, so when the time comes, click here to return to the page and change the display.

Legendary?

I know this has been discussed before but since the main argument for Rotom not being legendary was its stats but now that it can change forms (a trait shared with several legendary Pokémon) that all have better stats ("almost making them analogous to evolutions") should this discussion be reopened.--MisterE13 01:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Shall we bring this up on the Castform talk page too then? What about Cherrim and Burmy? Rotom isn't legendary, it's just the Gen IV version of Snorlax, Sudowoodo and Kecleon (without the annoying blocking of your path thing). — THE TROM — 01:44, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

The main argument was the new stats and event status. At least I new better than to edit the article outright. If nothing else, it is the first non-legendary to have had new forms unlocked through events.--MisterE13 02:41, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, technically, the official DP Pokédex released by Nintendo/Gamefreak/TVTokyo stated that Rotom was a Legendary Pokémon, but yeah, it's doubtful that it is one. Weedle Mchairybug 02:59, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I realized a while ago that here we didn't refer to it as legendary and respected that, I was just wondering if it was just because of its awful stats as well as the new EVENT status.--MisterE13 03:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

its legendary. duh. sure the booked said delibird was a legendary but in the lineup it wasent there and rotom was there. ArceusEX 20:49, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I know this sort of thing brings out the worst in certain bulbapedians (^). But really, what are the remaining arguments? It's stats aren't awful anymore so it can't be that. Also, if this discussion still ends with it not being legendary, could an Admin please add that Rotom is the first non-legendary Pokémon to have an alternate form that requires activation from an event.--MisterE13 21:24, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, if you look in the deletion log for one of the most useless pages in history, apparently Pokemon.com said it wasn't legendary. And EX, did the book have the official Nintendo Seal on it? Didn't think so. Now, better handbooks, which actually have the seal on them, say that 'Tom is not a legendary.--The Kkllnnator サンタクロース 21:28, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, I don't know about you, but I think the official copyright that he mentioned is good enough for me. I mean, what's the point in even making a copyright if the person/company in question didn't ACTUALLY create it? Besides, the official Seal of Nintendo isn't going to apply anyways, as Nintendo didn't actually create Pokémon (it was gamefreak). All they did was allow it on their systems. Weedle Mchairybug 21:38, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

In that case, could someone please add the trivia.--MisterE13 23:15, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

It is not legendary, end of story. MaverickNate 00:05, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

No, I mean say Rotom is the only non-legendary to be considered "event only".--MisterE13 00:54, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

LIES! Rotom can be captured, only his other formes, not officially in the Dex, therefore not new pokemon, cant be capturedDCM((曲奇饼妖怪Spy on My Edits))

To quote the page:"As of the official Japanese tournament held in 2008, all Rotom forms have been banned from official tournaments. This is due to the special status of the alternate forms as event-exclusive Pokémon." I understand what you mean DCM, but I'm just using what we already have.--MisterE13 01:03, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

But it doesnt have its own distinctive entry in the pokedex. Therefore, not a pokemon, just a variant of one.DCM((曲奇饼妖怪Spy on My Edits))

(Gettin' cramped) the--vik0z0z 20:58, 8 February 2009 (UTC)n put first/only Pokémon with alternate forms only available through an event. I was just using the wording we already had in the article.--MisterE13 01:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

is there any way we can truly find out if it is a legendary or not? vik0z0z 23:26, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
and i consider it semi-legendary like unown or lucario.

also the way you obtain Rotom is like most legendaries, because you have to go up to a T.V. and then a battle starts, do you get what i'm saying?
and an Bold textOFFICIAL nintendo handbook says Rotom is legendary
and Rotom has legendary battle music!!!! vik0z0z 23:31, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

so, there is no way we can truly find out if it is a legendary? vik0z0z 23:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC) vik0z0z 23:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC) vik0z0z 23:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Even without the Legendary music, there's still the fact that it was mentioned to be a Legendary in an official handbook that was made not only by nintendo, but TVTokyo and even Gamefreak, the ones who actually created Pokémon in the first place. Weedle Mchairybug 00:50, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

what i'm saying is that you have to activate rotom (in a way) and then battle him.
how many non-legendary pokemon do that!?--vik0z0z 20:58, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Snorlax, Sudowoodo. As much as I'd like to think Rotom's legendary, that argument doesn't cut it around here.--MisterE13 21:13, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

why would nintendo make such a big deal out of rotom in platinum if he wasnt legendary. - unsigned comment from Vik0z0z (talk • contribs)

To make little fanboys and fangirls argue about it on Bulbapedia talkpages. Look guys, there is no official confirmation otherwise, so we have to take it as unlegendary, as that is what most of the information leads to. Yes, there are points on both sides, but with no official confirmation, we can't do anything. The discussion here is becoming best suited to the forums and further comments will be deleted. Thanks. — THE TROM — 06:53, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Doesn't that Guidebook count as official information? I mean, from the Copyright notice that someone posted in the archives that TV Tokyo, Nintendo, and even Gamefreak had a hand at making the book. Weedle Mchairybug 10:03, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't know... It could possily be a legendary... I mean, it's only possible to obtain one right? I don't know. I'll check it out with Nintendo. Maybe they can clear up some questions. Smashbrother101 01:11, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

i am back and i say: who cares its just one of many pokemon arceusLX leveled up! 00:54, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Old discussion is old. Commenting here is like feeding trolls. Just don't.--Pokélova! 06:33, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, this comment isn't replying to another one that is +6 months, I write it. Some games, he is legend, and in some he isn't. Like phione. it can breed, the most major thing to put his status in doubt, again like phione. I think in HGSS if they can breed, aren't legendary. But in some games it is. ----Desukaan563's userpage has a Value Formula to measure Pokémon worth(talk) 03:54, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Trivia worthy?

On Pokemon Ranger (The first one), In Fall City, there is a young guy in a house in the south of Fall City. He has a picture on his wall which looks like either Freeze Rotom or Heat Rotom. Can someone else take a look at this for me?--Pokelova 05:12, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I always thought it was a toaster oven. A microwave doesn't make sense, because it doesn't use fire to heat food. Aura-Knight 00:53, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Neither does Ash carrying a Larvitar. But it's from the site so there's nothing you can do about it. — THE TROM — 00:54, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

On its defense, it's Heat Forme, not Fire Forme, so the microwave does make sense. Toaster ovens don't use fire either, anyway (at least not when functioning correctly).--Kaoz 15:54, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Charon's journal and notes on Rotom

Should I add them on Rotom's or Charon's page, or should I just not add them at all. --AOS 03:32, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Artwork at top...

Purge the server, click on the time at the top right of the page--freezingCOLD(page, talk) 20:45, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Why wash Rotom

The regular Rotom illustrates the Rotom concept better than its other forms. Do you see the sky forme Shaymin as the main picture on Shaymin's page? No? Then put the regular Rotom as the main images on this page! --HideInTheDark 18:26, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

First of, calmness is key. Second, the images are on a timer, and change every day for this article, I believe. The pictures on Shaymin, as well as numerous other pages, also change at set times. --Theryguy512 18:37, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Nintendo

We really should just wait for Nintendo to say something. I mean, just because someone says it isn't legendary or it is, doesn't mean that what they say is true or official, because nobody knows for sure, and because Nintendo never said anything about Rotom. (And I don't mean Pokemon.com) vik0z0z 19:48, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Still, multiple times it has been referred to as NON-legendary. You may be right, but I'm pretty sure its non-legendary. Nintendo mentioned it once if I'm correct, and the only possible proof that its legendary is that its banned from tournaments. ((User:Megamew/Megamew)) 02:08:13, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually, there is one other proof that it's legendary. The official handbook for DP had actually stated that Rotom is legendary. Weedle Mchairybug 10:55, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Those handbooks are incalcuably full of errors, though. --DarkfireTaimatsu 11:32, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I think that the handbooks are a bit... unreliable. they have made (many) mistakes before and should not be trusted for important matters such as legendary Pokémon. User:megamew/megamew 21:37, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Trading to Diamond and Pearl

If Rotom is in its Wash form (for example) and it was traded to Diamond or Pearl, it would be reverted back to its Normal Form. However, if it were to be traded back to a copy of Platinum (after being reverted to Normal Form by Diamond or Pearl), would it go back to its Wash Form, or would it stay as Normal Form? Ggled 13:53, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

It would most likely stay as it's normal form. I can't find anything on Youtube, so I can't confirm it for you. R.A.HunterBlade 21:02, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I got some friends, Pokémon Platinum, A DS lite, and a wash rotom over here. I'm on it. --16ipodfanatic 03:59, 15 June 2009 (UTC)16ipodfanatic

"Auto-relearning" ThunderShock (in Platinum)

In the trivia section, there is the later part of one that says "If the only move that Rotom knows right before reverting to its original form is exclusive to its alternate form, then that move will be replaced with ThunderShock." I only own Platinum, and recently captured Rotom. Found the secret room, and transformed it, letting it learn that form's attack (replacing ThunderShock). Changed it to another appliance, then back to default, but found that ThunderShock had been deleted instead. Luckily, had saved just beforehand, so just did a power reset.

I then tested with just one appliance then back to default, and ThunderShock was again deleted instead of coming back and replacing the appliance's attack. So perhaps the replacing only happens in D/P? If someone could confirm and correct it, that'd be cool.

Also found that not allowing Rotom to learn the appliance's attack will also not allow Rotom to take it over. Again, no clue if this is different in D/P (if it is, obviously should be noted by someone that can confirm it).

Until confirmed, I'm removing the part I quoted for now, and someone can just retrive it later or rewrite it as neccessary.--Mondoblasto 08:48, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Ah, but that says the only move. I.e., delete all of Rotom's moves but the special move, then change it back. I'm fairly certain that's what it means (not that I have Platinum to confirm). It refers only to Platinum, as the alternate forms are only in Pt, btw. — THE TROM — 09:54, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh ya, secret key->secret room->alternate forms only in Platinum.... after going to Canada's first Pokemon event, you'd think I'd remember that >_<; Since I DO have Platinum (long time fan of the anime, but first game), I guess I can go ahead and test it; as mentioned, my Rotom still fresh and default. I don't know of a way to remove moves, but I'm thinking I'll try using the appliance moves to delete them one after the other, through chain changing, and maybe also by default->alternate1->default->alternate2... ect--Mondoblasto 06:12, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I tested it with a Heat Rotom knowing only Overheat, and it's only move is now ThunderShock. It didn't even know ThunderShock before I deleted the other moves (not that that would make a difference), so it must have learnt it when changing formes. Werdnae 06:42, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Interesting...

Wait, according to the anime, rotom can move even when it's not in it's battle mode. Wait, what? Okay, now I'm confused. Can someone help me with this? Oh, by the way... STOP FIGHTING/ARGUING ABOUT WHETHER ROTOM IS A LEGENDARY OR NOT!!!! I'm sick of your squabbling. --16ipodfanatic 03:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)16ipodfanatic

Thanks for bringing it up again. That's really just what we wanted. And anime =/= games. The two canons do things differently. Just because something happens in one, it doesn't have to happen in the other. — THE TROM — 04:04, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Name origins

I once added a small note that Rotom may also be a combination of rotate and possibly atom, which got removed. Sure Charon may have named Rotom, but might I add that Rotom existed before Platinum? Charon was probably not even near their heads when they were choosing a name for Rotom at that time. So it seems to make sense to me that in the REAL WORLD, Rotom's name origin was most likely different back then. Yes it's name is motor backwards, but I was just trying to show that there were probably other possiblities why it was named that. Mudkipchan 07:24, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree, We have another possible name origin for Electrode--ForceFire 07:37, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Had it been based off of something else, surely the journal would have reflected that, like I have decided to name this most wondrous Pokémon 'Rotom.' Simple though it may be, Rotom emerged to me like a Rotatting atom... Surely the link is obvious?--MisterE13 20:22, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Honestly, there's usually only one reason for naming it, and we all know Platinum was planned during DP. They just needed to give a reason to buy Pt. It's like how Phione was named after a clione, not "clone" or "phony" or anything else. They put in the journal exactly what they named it for, making it the only truly canonical name origin. TTEchidna 22:15, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

I was just thinking whether the french name for Rotom comes from the word "phantasma" (ghost) rather than the word "plasma". I know it's a Plasma Pokémon but it's also a ghost... Gronast 22:24, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

About the banning

"As of the official Japanese tournament held in 2008, all Rotom forms have been banned from official tournaments. This is due to the special status of the alternate forms as event-exclusive Pokémon."

But wait a second.. you can get the Rotom formes without any extra events in HGSS (it's in Silph Co., not sure if you need to beat Red or anything), and I assume that the 2010 tourney from what I've heard uses HGSS only. So they're not really all that event-exclusive..? I think there might be some rewording needed here... ▫▪Ťïňắ♫♥ 06:46, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Has the 2010 rules list been released yet? It could have been updated now that the formes are all for the taking. —darklordtrom 10:08, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Just checked the banlist (somewhere on here), the only Pokémon that are banned are Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys, Phione, Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin and Arceus. So, I'm assuming that it's legal to use the Rotom formes.. I'm not really good with wording things though, more of a typo fixer, so uh... can someone change that on the page? ;; ▫▪Ťïňắ♫♥ 17:38, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

In explorers of sky...

Alright. Pokémon mystery dungeon explorers of sky was released after platinum was, right? Well, I was wondering if there is any way to change its rotom's form in explorers of sky. If anybody knows anything about that, it would help. Thanks! - unsigned comment from Luke6256 (talk • contribs)

Multiple Rotom

Could someone bring mutliple Rotom and appliance them or is it only one at a time? Aura-Knight 04:22, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Multiple Rotom can be in different formes at the same time (If you have multiple Rotom in your party it will ask which one you want to go into the appliance), but you can only have one of each forme at a time. Werdnae(talk) 07:18, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Roton

That is probably just coincidence, given that it's name is "motor" backwards. While it could be true that seems a bit of stretch, and Rotom doesn't really look like a quasi particle. Also a roton is probably called something different in Japanese. In future please add new discussion topics to the bottom of the talkpage.--Beligaronia (talk) 10:39, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Egg Moves

Does Rotom have any? If it doesn't, shouldn't there be a "Egg Moves" section that says "none" - unsigned comment from Malake256 (talk • contribs)

And no, Rotom cannot breed, so it does not have any egg moves. We don't add an Egg Moves section for Pokémon that cannot be bred. --Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 06:06, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

But I bred one!! Have you even tried breeding him?? ~Takhareon 07:17, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

You can breed Rotom, it is just that they don't have any egg moves that can be compatibly passed down through the parents. So therefore no egg moves, maybe in a later Generation though. –MasterKenobi 10:16, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks alot :( I got in trouble for deleting the egg moves section on pokemon that can't breed. Rotom can breed and has no egg moves, it should have a section under moves learned thatrReads "By Breeding/none." - unsigned comment from Malake256 (talk • contribs)

You say Rotom can breed, but if only one is available, then how? Because some species cannot breed with Ditto. Though this is mainly legendary species, I think there are some non-legendary Pokémon that cannot either. FrozenStrategy 12:30, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Rotom can breed with Ditto. The only Pokémon that can't are Legendaries (aside from Manaphy) and, if I'm not mistaken, Nidorina and Nidoqueen. たかはりい 12:35, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

The reason for that is egg group, not their legendary/baby status Rotom is in the Indeterminate egg group, but can only breed with Ditto as it is genderless, while those that can't breed even with Ditto are in the No eggs egg group. Werdnae(talk) 20:33, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Caption

Forced reversion

It would be helpful and informative to list all the ways Rotom can be reverted back to normal forme and be stripped of its forme-specific move. I know for certain using Rotom in the Soul Silver Battle Frontier reverts him to his regular forme, and I am not sure but I believe taking Rotom into the union room also changes him back to normal. Does anyone know all the causes for this? Should this be added on the page? Podunk

Please remember to add new sections to the bottom of the talk page. And sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).--Pokélova! 22:37, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Manga pics being added

So I'm adding the Pics of Rotom as it appears in the manga (YES I got them from Serebii...but theres a bunch of pics from there...so sue me...)

and I was wondering that when I was done they could add them to the article and make it so that it changes forms along with the game and anime artwork (Ataro 18:16, 2 August 2010 (UTC))

Also I am done adding the pics (they are to be replaced with better versions when available)

Add it for now. But I would like to remind everyone that taking images from Serebii is a huge no-no, and I expect these images to be replaced by your own scans in the future. —♥Jellotalk 22:31, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Evolution section

I raised the complaint on another page that Pokémon which change forme rather than evolving ought to have this section renamed. But this one has an added problem: Can Rotom really change directly from, say, Mow Form to Fan Form? I thought it had to exit the device it was already in first, in which case we should use a template more like that of Eevee and its evolutions, with the forms all changing between Normal and the specialized forms. --AndyPKMN 16:07, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

In Platinum at least it can go straight from one to another without the need to manually revert it to normal first. Werdnae(talk) 19:56, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Trivia Correction?

"While some other Pokémon with alternate forms have different base stat distributions in their other forms, Rotom is the only Pokémon whose alternate forms have a different base stat total than that of the original form."

Fan Rotom

If the opponent uses a Ground-type move against a Fan Rotom holding an Air Balloon (Generation V only), provided Gastro Acid, Gravity, etc. are not used. what will the message be? Will it say that it did not affect Rotom, Rotom makes Ground moves miss with Levitate, or what? This doesn't really matter, and isn't related to the topic at all, but why doesn't Bulbapedia have an icon next to the site name that appears on the browser (on Mozilla Firefox)? - unsigned comment from Enervation (talk • contribs)

It says "It doesn't affect Rotom...". The loss of favicon (that icon you are referring to) is due to the server restructure, and we are working on fixing it. --SnorlaxMonster 08:44, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Rotom's sprite in DP

I think the cell for Rotom's DP sprite in the sprite table should be given a rowspan of 5 in its coding, to combine it into one long vertical cell alongside the six in Platinum and HGSS. This will make it visually clear there is only one sprite for Rotom in the Generation IV pilot games, rather than pushing it up to the top of each generational row and leaving an empty space below. What do you think? P.S. Taking a look at the HTML for the sprite table doesn't seem to show any way the rowspan of any sprite can be modified, so I'd be curious to know more.Haxorus 09:13, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Why are its Formes treated as Individual Pokemons?

According to the trivia placed by editors, they consider each one of Rotom's formes as an individual Pokemon. (eg. Mow Rotom is the only Pokemon to have Grass-Electric type combination?) Discuss. Blueknightex 11:58, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

It isn't. It's just saying that Mow (forme) rotom is the only Grass/Electric type. It's like the Arceus (or Poison; one of them) saying Poison form Arceus is the only poison type legendary.--ForceFire 12:04, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. I know what you mean but the way its written makes it seem like we're treating the formes like individual Pokemons though(eg.Mow Rotom is the only Grass-type Pokémon?..). That's the impression that I'm getting when I first read it but I do know that its not completely true. Blueknightex 09:58, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Pokemon Special

Should it be noted that Rotom is apparently considered a Legendary in Pokemon Special? I haven't read the Platinum chapter yet, but it shows Rotom in silhouette with the other Sinnoh Legendaries that Charon is after. Pokemega32 22:21, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

I don't see why we should assume that. Charon and the Association President both just say he's searching for the Legendary Pokemon of Sinnoh. Charon never even directly interacts with Rotom in the manga outside of it attacking him at the end to destroy his machine, so it's not like he considers it special. Pokemega32 10:18, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Levitate Info

At the type effectiveness box of pokemon with the ability Levitate, the following is written:

Notes:
If Gravity is in effect, the Pokémon is given an Iron Ball, the opponent has the Ability Mold Breaker, Turboblaze or Teravolt, or it is affected by Gastro Acid, Skill Swap*, Entrainment*, Worry Seed, Simple Beam or Smack Down, the effectiveness of Ground-type moves is 2×.

So, I wondered if someone could edit the part above and make it look like this:

If Gravity is in effect, the Pokémon is given an Iron Ball or uses a contact move and hits an opponent with the ability Mummy, the opponent has the Ability Mold Breaker, Turboblaze or Teravolt, or it is affected by Gastro Acid, Skill Swap*, Entrainment*, Worry Seed, Simple Beam or Smack Down, the effectiveness of Ground-type moves is 2×.--Rabitsd (talk) 12:03, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

That makes sense, but I don't really have the authority to add that... KyuremsIceBlade (talk) 23:03, 27 August 2012 (UTC)