The Road to Mithril Hall

Thursday, January 8, 2009

Hi everyone, hope you all had a great holiday. This post is not going to be much of an update as far as God of War 3 news are concerned (Please stay tuned for the near future), however I wanted to start a conversation about the Weapons in the previous games. I would like to hear any comments that you may have in regards to any of the weapons that Kratos has used before. Which of the weapons did you guys enjoy using and why? What L1 Specials did you think were useful? Please post any comments on any of the weapons that you might have. Thank you everyone for continuing to post here.

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Hey Bruno, whats up? well, i think the majority of people who are going to play this game are going to use more the blades of Athena( if he still have it) but i remember in god of war 1 the blade of Artemis was my favorite , because it is a little bit heavy but you can manage to make really cool combos fast. the hammer was too slow for my taste, did not used at all. the spear of destiny was really cool and i did a couple of combos with it. the gauntlet of Zeus in chains of Olympus was good, not bad nor great, just good.

i believe that you guys should try a quick, fast, easy to used weapon, i don't care if does less damage, but when you are in a situation where you need to make space, i think it i will be glad to use it.

Firstly, I never said to fix GOW II. What I did say, was that the weapons in GOW II were extremely fun to play with and they had their flaws. So by tweaking those flaws, GOW III weapons should be even better to play with.

Great comments guys. The blades of Chaos/Athena are always the first weapon of choice for most people (Well they pretty much define Kratos himself) and this is why is challenging to create new weapons that can be as useful and fun to use. It is great to hear all the feedback in regards to the other weapons and what you liked/din't like about them. The ideal thing would be to create weapons that everyone would use equally but that is not always the case. I really enjoyed playing DMC4 and Ninja Gaiden 2 but I did find myself picking favorites among the many weapons those games had to offer. Also different players sometimes prefer different styles of play as well. When it all comes down to each weapon should at least be fun to use. Please keep the comments comming and thanks!

The obvious favorite is the Blades of Chaos/Athena, I don't think there's a need a elaborate further.

As for my favorite L1 moves (which I think should be mapped to a different trigger than defend):

L1 + Circle (GoW I): the one you smash your blade on the ground. I was sad to see it absent from GoW II.

L1 + Circle (GoW II): this one was very good for juggling enemies mid-air.

L1 + Triangle (GoW II): Just an awesome powerful move.

As for the secondary weapons, the only one I used occasionally was the Blade of Artemis, I don't remember any L1 moves though. I haven't used any other weapon, except the Barbarian Hammer which I used to quickly smash stoned enemies. (I haven't played CoO but I heard the gauntlet of Zeus is awesome)

I don't think discussing which combo is useful is vaild if we didn't discuss"why" those combos/weapons are useful first .

So here comes the first two questions (based on Titan difficulty)1: Why ppl love gauntlet of zeus in GOW:COO ?2: Do you know that the most effective weapon in GOW2 is hammer ?http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=eTu1YpZl9NU&feature=channel_pagehttp://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=3qzYuuxFCNY&feature=channel

It all start with these two biggest issues in GOW combat system a: long combo time(regular attack included) & crazily fast enemy attack rateex:wraith , satyrs , that samll one on cyclop's back

b: you can't stop enemy if the attack animation begins by hitting them

The results area: No L1 combos on the ground b: Heavy melee weapons are far more effective , 3-4 blade hits before dodge away <<< 1 hammer hitc: ppl use the last one hit of □□△ or △△△ as main attack , or simply use melee weapon. d: inevitable use of repeat ○

See , the problem is the combat design just prevent you from using blades in close combat which is probably 70% of the game.

Then this also leads to the another question .Why no one uses "R1+△" or "Hold □ + △" in GOW2 ?The answer's quite simple , because these moves are directional , and there is no lock-on system in GoW , soyou will miss it most of the time just like △△△ combo of spear .Look at the lists , there ain't too much useful combos left @@hold△□*6□□△□△○△△△L1 moves in the air.

Well , the concept of blade of chaos as a long range weapon is the reason why gauntlet madeso many ppl think it's the best alternative weapon in GOW series or even better , and i am totally fine with that . But i think blade of chaos can be used as "both" long and short range weapon .

I really think the combat system should be redesigned, it's the weakest spot of GoW .Even Conan was a lot better than GoW . The L1 moves just ain't right . The vertical and horizontal attack just seems too restricted , and GOW3 definetly need "much" more moves.

Finally , make the combat more fluid , there are definetly some aspects needed to be improve In GOW series, air and ground feel like no conection between them especially air->ground.I mean why can't kratos be able to air jump(horizontally) or charge the ememy from the air with the wings ? Why can't kratos be able to charge toward the enemy then throw it directly into the air instead of "Hold △" ??Why can't kratos finsih enemy with QTE in the air then jump to next victem ?

Well. The weapon that really sucked was the hammer. Too slow... and you couldn't dodge attacks while using it.

Blades of chaos need a revamp.I think they should not be a long-range weapon. You should be able to stab with the blades, not throw'em =|.

And some special moves are kinda useless.Specially GoW2's L1+O.

Enemies shouldn't be able to parry and counter attack while they're being hit either. I mean... that's fine for big enemies but when i see dogs attacking me and overpowering my attacks... it kinda ruins the whole "champion of the gods" thing... it actually makes me feel weaker than my enemies.

Oh one more thing. The glove from Gow: Chains of Olympus and God of war2's blade of olympus need to be in the next game... They're the best weapons in the franchise except for the blades of chaos of course.

Nice comments everyone. I agree that the Barbarian hammer was pretty though to use, specially since you could not evade with it like the other weapons, but if you level it up all the way it did some pretty crazy damage. The Blade of Olympus seems to be liked by some of you, perhaps it will make a comeback.......

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Hi everyone. The comments in regards to the weapons were great. I will probably have one more of thes post in regards to Magic in the future. I see that some of you have found Cecil's blog. He is the Lead of the concept art team for God Of War 3. He has been responsible for many of the great environment designs since the firts God of War. Check out his blog for some awesome concept art. I also noticed various links to othe sites talkinga bout upcomming GOW3 info, well all I can say right now is for everyone to just wait for the near future for some more info. Thanks for reading!

The Blades of Chaos/Athena are the best weapons in the series. The Gauntlet of Zeus follows as a close second. I wish the Blade of Olympus had better special moves. Like a special move that did that shock wave Zeus used to obliterate the Spartan Army. The also should have used a couple of Blade of The Gods special moves.

Every other weapon just sucked. The weapons I'm hoping for In GoW3 are the the Blade of Olympus or the Scythe used by Zeus to castrate Kronos in greek myth.

It would be cool to have the hammer of Ares,I would like to have some new weapons also. Seeing as we have the cestus now we dont need the Gauntlet of Zeus, I would like to have the Blade of Olympus too. Make the attacks stronger though. It felt alittle weak seeing as it absorbed the power of a god. The Barbarian Hammer wasn't that great either. The soul summoner was kinda weak. I would love to see some new attacks for the Dlades of Athena also. I loved the Cyclone of Chaos. The best attack for the Blades of Athena.

Well, finally back on the topics of weapons lol. The Blades obviously- the good L1 attacks were ALL of them. Although if I had to give up one, it would be L1 + O just because i preferred the more wide range or area effect L1 attacks. Hammer was way too slow, but you're right. Once upgraded it's awesome. But i feel it was still lacking the same depth as the blades and I felt I was ONLY using L1 attacks because without it, it didn't do so good. The Spear was really good. In fact I wouldn't mind seeing some sort of reincarnation of it, but it needed a few more combos or something. The Blade of Olympus was also epic-it was long range and could steal orbs! IDK if you're going to use that same combo, but that'd be cool. I just think if it's going to be a main weapon (I mean a weapon available for most of the game) then more combos or variants are needed.The Blade of Artemis was good...but it was good just for GOW 1. I wouldn't really want to see it come back unless it got totally revamped-Plus, it's Artemis'...and she's a god..so I don't think it would work very well :\As for the Cestus, I'm excited. From what I've seen, it looks awesome. Since you have that, definitely no need for the Gauntlet.Idk if you're going to ask about Rage of the Gods or Rage of the Titans but I'm curious to see if you're going to keep that idea. I mean I think it would be strange to have Rage of the Titans again, because it seems in GOW 3 you may also fight against Titans, but Idk if that's just a rumor or not. I mean you did say it explains why there are no more Greek Gods, and they are Titans, which I'm sure relates to that. Anyway, I'm curious if you guys are going to ever discuss that (Rage of ____)!Well that's all-just wanted to get that all out there!