All you have to do is get a quarterback that can throw 7 touchdown passes in 3 quarters of a game and get Incognito to catch 3 of them and all will be forgiven……Hey it worked in Philly…..

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Mon, 04 Nov 2013 18:54:56 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917988well put realfootballfan….I suspect a lot of us football fans feel the same way.
]]>By: badmoonrisonhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/04/report-incognito-made-threats-racial-remarks-to-martin/#comment-2917976
Mon, 04 Nov 2013 18:51:55 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917976doggeatdogg, The most intelligent post Ive read yet on this subject. Couldnt agree more. Dolphins need to do something drastic right now and a new code of conduct is a darn fine start….
]]>By: realfootballfanhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/04/report-incognito-made-threats-racial-remarks-to-martin/#comment-2917938
Mon, 04 Nov 2013 18:43:55 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917938For people criticizing how Martin handled the situation, I am curious to how you think he should have handled it when Incognito has been part of the Dolphin leadership counsel, the very part of the team he would be taking his concerns to. Talk about a tone deaf organization.

Therefore, what else was he supposed to do when everyone around him is turning a blind eye to what is going on? Fight him, shank him, hit him with his car? Exactly what tough guys? Short of forcing his release, where else was he supposed to turn except to go outside the organization.

Joe Philbin and Jeff Ireland need to get the real estate agent on the phone for a different reason now. No way they survive this short of the Dolphins winning the Super Bowl, and we all know that’s not happening.

The Dolphins can take this opportunity by getting ahead of the curb and constructing a panel (for their organization) to find out from the current rookie players to what extent veterans players have been taking moneys from them and settle that matter quickly to avoid further excavation into a bad place.

Richie will have to be the sacrificial lamb regardless of how anyone feels about him. He will have to be cut by the team. He can always sue whomever and open up his cans of worms. Which is the reason why the Dolphins need to settle things with the rookies about harassment situations.

Martins should be encouraged to return to the o-line and play the rest of his contract. When he becomes a free agent, he can move if his performance does not merit a new contract.

The Miami Dolphins can take the lead and write new rules of conduct. No rookie hazing of any kind. No shaving, no taping, no singing. No rookie tabs, no multilevel marketing, no pay for play. Any outings, the rookie pays his own and that is it. Violations resulting in heavy fines, suspensions and possible law enforcement involvement.

If Wall Street has survived without hazing so can the locker room. It’s come to that.

]]>By: kona8190http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/04/report-incognito-made-threats-racial-remarks-to-martin/#comment-2917727
Mon, 04 Nov 2013 18:02:32 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917727If there is a substance abuse issue it will be in Martins Camp. He appears to be a good guy but has a closet full of who knows what. This happens on all teams, it’s part of the culture.
Without facts, this is an internet court case and we all know how they work out. There is an Incognito on every team.
]]>By: chiadamhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/04/report-incognito-made-threats-racial-remarks-to-martin/#comment-2917652
Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:52:10 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917652Also, how old is Incognito? Is he a ten-year-old girl? Because getting up and leaving a cafeteria table is something for kids in junior high to do, as is messing around with Facebook accounts of people you don’t like. Grow up.
]]>By: eastofmissballhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/04/report-incognito-made-threats-racial-remarks-to-martin/#comment-2917632
Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:50:00 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917632Let’s not forget the other members of this
O-Line. How involved are they? If Incognito has been pushing around these rookies and cleaning out their pockets, these other guy’s must have known. So is Richie alone here? I can’t believe the rest of the O-line took it as far as Incognito , but far from innocent. I want to be a fly on the wall to hear these voicemails.
]]>By: chiadamhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/04/report-incognito-made-threats-racial-remarks-to-martin/#comment-2917619
Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:48:19 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917619How is it that we could watch Hard Knocks for ten seconds and know what a toolbag Incognito is, but the Dolphins staff is around him all the time and never did a thing until they had to? And Agnew should have broken Incognito’s fat ass in half for the fiance remark.
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Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:45:01 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917597Expect incognito’s camp to come out and say he has some sort of substance abuse problem and that he is going away to treatment. He will need to admit some weakness of some sort and seek help to try to sway public opinion in the slightest.
]]>By: FinFan68http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/04/report-incognito-made-threats-racial-remarks-to-martin/#comment-2917578
Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:40:20 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917578Since there is a question of whether the Dolphins should pay Martin while he is away, fine Incognito and take that money and give it to Martin.

The “hazing” stuff happens everywhere and usually leads to closer bonds but this stuff crossed the line a long time ago. Reasonable people know when to stop or step in. It is sad that nobody on the Dolphins stood up. Incognito has the attitude you sometimes need in an O-lineman but off the field he just seems like a psycho goon. Rather than a suspension he should be removed from the team completely. Some of the stuff reported (if true) goes beyond simple teasing or hazing…it is criminal. I am ashamed that players on my team let this stuff go. If the coaches were aware and did nothing, they should be fired immediately. I like Philbin but if he was aware, he needs to go. At a minimum he needs to get off that high horse and take a closer look at what’s going on around him.

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Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:39:07 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917573The suspension was a start but the Dolphins would be smart to act as swiftly as the Patriots did with the Hernandez situation and just release him. Then they can focus their efforts on defending their center who’s about to be facing gun trafficing charges.
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Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:37:55 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917571I’m having a tough time believing this does happen on every team. Every few years some rookie makes headlines for refusing to carry the veterans’s pads and the like–guaranteed those guys aren’t forking over thousands of dollars. And how does rookie hazing extend into Martin’s second year in the league?

And no way does Incognito get to run roughshod over Martin like this if he’s the lone jerk involved. There had to be other guys who had his back and the coaches had to know something about what was going on. Multiple cases over a couple years where younger guys were paying thousands to teammates? How could anybody hanging around the locker room miss that?

]]>By: calicowboysfan86http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/04/report-incognito-made-threats-racial-remarks-to-martin/#comment-2917566
Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:35:36 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917566It’s crazy racism is still an issue in this day and age. How can you play sports your whole life, be apart of several interracial teams, and come out of it racist?
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Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:29:57 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917549These are 2 mental cases, Martin more so, he walked out on the team, this did not start last week, why now, he should handle his affairs like everyone else, the Union at the present is useless.
There is something else attached to this and it is going to come from the Martin camp. He is no angle here.
Hard to find anything positive here, all we know is what they are saying so divide by 4.
]]>By: beachsidejameshttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/04/report-incognito-made-threats-racial-remarks-to-martin/#comment-2917547
Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:29:30 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917547Now that the head coach has stood up for Martin by removing Incognito its Martins turn to stand up for his coach and the innocent teamates that had nothing to do with this. Martin is now hurting the team by staying away. Coach wants him back, players want him back, fans want him back. If he’s a team player he comes back now (even if its to be a back up player) because the team needs him. This is what it takes to be a man in a difficult situation.
]]>By: pigskinclassic33http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/04/report-incognito-made-threats-racial-remarks-to-martin/#comment-2917544
Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:27:57 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917544Why do you knuckleheads make knee-jerk comments about allegations that have yet to be confirmed?

Now the entire tune has changed. Information is vital before reaction.

Coach Philbin was quick to make a name for himself as a disciplinarian with regards to Ochocinco. I’d say he has some ‘splainin to do.

]]>By: qdog112http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/04/report-incognito-made-threats-racial-remarks-to-martin/#comment-2917525
Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:23:00 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917525His big ass ought be relegated to selling peanuts at football games or better yet, hired for the events staff at arenas.
]]>By: firebrand34http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/04/report-incognito-made-threats-racial-remarks-to-martin/#comment-2917523
Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:21:57 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917523Why don’t you knuckleheads wait until the allegations are confirmed and the whole story comes out before making foolish comments.

]]>By: granadafanhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/04/report-incognito-made-threats-racial-remarks-to-martin/#comment-2917505
Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:18:15 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917505“dirtydrynn27 says:
Nov 4, 2013 8:52 AM
How on earth do you bully a 300+ pound man? Sounds to me like Martin is a little wus! Im not going to play anymore because he called me a name,very 3rd graderish!”
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You internet tough guys are immature and inadvertedly hilarious. These players adults working for a company. Violence in the workplace is a serious matter that could escalate to someone getting much more seriously hurt especially if one has a weapon. A guy like Ritchie would never stop even if he did get his arse kicked.

I’m not saying Martin handled it the best way, but getting in massive fights would have been worse with one or both suspended/ arrested.

]]>By: dolphanindallashttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/04/report-incognito-made-threats-racial-remarks-to-martin/#comment-2917499
Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:16:48 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917499I think it’s very interesting that there is a slim minority of people out there that think a 300 pound lineman playing professional football wouldn’t or shouldn’t have insecurity issues caused by a jackass whom had always been a trouble maker on and off the field. Making lots of money is a benefit allotted to these men, but dealing with reality is different. We on this forum can take so many examples of the Cooper’s, Dez’s, Vicks, Hernandez’s etc. and debate it for a lifetime. This is a workplace issue that will destroy my beloved organization because Philban and management just can get it right by installing a sense of fear and job insecurity while building a bond. It’s more of an entitled country club atmosphere with no sense of accountability or partnerships except maybe for John Denny and Brandon Feilds. You want to fix the problem take an example from the 1980 USA Olympic ice hockey team. No sense of job security one common enemy (Herb Brooks) and formation of bonding, and finally a gold metal. Hate to say this but I have lost respect for my beloved team..
]]>By: grudenthedivahttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/04/report-incognito-made-threats-racial-remarks-to-martin/#comment-2917491
Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:13:39 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917491Unfortunately for Richie, he’s an NFL player and not on talk radio. If that were the case, a lot of these “outraged” folks would be whining about a PC witch hunt and “reverse racism”
]]>By: beach305http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/04/report-incognito-made-threats-racial-remarks-to-martin/#comment-2917481
Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:09:40 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917481fake outrage.

NFL Fans = Hypocrisy at it’s finest

]]>By: daroc88http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/04/report-incognito-made-threats-racial-remarks-to-martin/#comment-2917472
Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:04:32 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917472A few things, first off there is thin line between friendly intiation and bullying/over the op hazing. It’s all fun and games until someone gets hurt. You’d be surprised at the numbers of colelge students who have lost their lives because of hazing incidents gone wrong. Nonetheless, hopefully this incident will bring some level of awareness about hazing incidents around the NFL. I’m not a blowhard, carrying pads and equipment – harmless, buying donuts before practice – harmless, having to create a skit during training camp – harmless. But how can the NFL sit back and send rookies to mandatory symposium to warn of the dangers of financial mismanagement – and then have rookies paying for 30K trips and food bills? Hypocrisy at it’s worst. How can you even force these guys to spend this kind of money, not knowing that expenses they have, who they have to feed, and how dispriviliged their families are?
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Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:03:05 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917467By the way Martin and Richie didn’t play Thursday and the dolphins ran all over the bengals. Good riddance
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Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:01:40 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917462snaponrules says:

Hard to blame Nebraska for Incognito’s conduct. The dude was a HS All-American and earned Big 12 honors starting as a freshman. Nebraska still ended up suspending him from the team for off-field issues — they held him accountable and kicked him off the team. Oregon accepted him but he got kicked out there before he even suited up.

If you really want to see what goes on at Nebraska, see the play voted best at last year’s ESPYs with Rex Burkehead.

]]>By: sailbum7http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/04/report-incognito-made-threats-racial-remarks-to-martin/#comment-2917443
Mon, 04 Nov 2013 16:53:27 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917443If what is being said here is true than Incognito should be permanently out of the NFL. There is no room anywhere for someone like this. A clear message needs to be sent that this is totally unacceptable behavior. This is not carrying the hazing of a rookie a little to far, this is a deliberate racist attack against a fellow teammate. I can not see him ever being welcome in a locker room again – anywhere!!! He has burned the bridge between himself and the NFL and should be permanently banned from the league. In any other company he would have already been shown the door and blackballed throughout the industry, why should it be any different in the NFL.
]]>By: dreadpirate88http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/04/report-incognito-made-threats-racial-remarks-to-martin/#comment-2917421
Mon, 04 Nov 2013 16:44:58 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222216#comment-2917421Incognito went to HS a few miles from my house. I saw him play a few times, and he had a terrible reputation even then. I have a friend who knows Incognito’s dad, and he says that the apple didn’t fall far from the tree in that family. Scumbags and bullies all the way around.
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