08ASTANA2445, KAZAKHSTAN: AMBASSADOR IDRISOV ON RAKHAT ALIYEV,

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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 ASTANA 002445
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E.O. 12958: DECL: 12/11/2018
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SUBJECT: KAZAKHSTAN: AMBASSADOR IDRISOV ON RAKHAT ALIYEV,
POLITICAL SUCCESSION, RUSSIA, OTHER ISSUES
Classified By: AMBASSADOR RICHARD E. HOAGLAND: 1.4 (B), (D)
¶1. (C) SUMMARY: The Ambassador met Kazakhstan's Ambassador
Erlan Idrisov for lunch at the Georgetown Club in Washington
on December 5. They discussed
-- President Nursultan Nazarbayev's exiled ex-son-in-law and
how he is an irritant in the U.S.-Kazakhstan bilateral
relationship;
-- presidential succession in Kazakhstan;
-- Kazakhstan's desire to accelerate its WTO accession
negotiations;
-- Kazakhstan's perception of a "new great game";
-- Freedom House's rigidity; and
-- frozen cows. END SUMMARY.
RAKHAT ALIYEV
¶2. (C) Idrisov explained how Kazakhstan thinks culturally
about Rakhat Aliyev, currently exiled in Austria: he
violated Kazakh traditions of family (and, by extension,
national) loyalty and fealty; he shamed himself, his family,
and his country; he is a criminal on the lam. Having burnt
every bridge, the only thing he can do now is seek political
asylum in the West. Idrisov said: "I accept that our
judicial proceedings against him were clumsy (closed
military-court proceedings); we shouldn't have done that; but
that is simply where we are in our judicial development."
¶3. (C) According to Idrisov, Aliyev is using his off-shore
wealth to deploy a Western (mostly European) public-relations
campaign to build sympathy for his attempt to find political
asylum. Every time the Western media report on Aliyev from
Aliyev's point of view, it's a huge irritant in "Ak Orda"
(Nazarbayev's White House). From Nazarbayev's traditional
cultural view, Aliyev makes him look weak, like a father who
cannot control his son, which is a huge cultural shame.
(NOTE: During lunch, Idrisov took a call from Deputy Foreign
Minister Khairat Sarybay (1:00 am Astana time!), complaining
about the December 3 pro-Aliyev, anti-Nazarbayev article in
the "Washington Times." END NOTE.)
¶4. (C) Idrisov's advice: At every possible opportunity at
high levels, the United States needs to repeat that we are in
no way secretly supporting Aliyev or in contact with him,
because Kazakhstan suspects that we are. Ideally, Idrisov
said, Nazarbayev needs a phone call from President-elect
Obama or Vice President-elect Biden, both of whom Nazarbayev
greatly respects, to tell him we have not supported, we are
not supporting, and we will not support Aliyev. (COMMENT:
We need to make crystal clear at the highest levels we have
no dog in this fight. This obsession makes little rational
sense from our perspective, but we need to understand it is
an existential obsession for Nazarbayev. END COMMENT.)
¶5. (C) Footnote: Former Prime Minister Kazhygeldin, exiled
in London, is reportedly ramping up a new public relations
campaign to impugn Nazarbayev's Kazakhstan as it prepares for
its 2010 OSCE chairmanship. Idrisov said Kazhygeldin is
portraying himself, Chelabi-like, as the "democrat" who will
save Kazakhstan. To quote Idrisov, "It's pure bullshit."
PRESIDENTIAL SUCCESSION
¶6. (C) What is the plan for presidential succession in
Kazakhstan? Idrisov: "This is a great problem, because
there is no institutional plan. The institutions have not
been developed, and that, frankly, is where we have failed.
Nazarbayev doesn't want to stay forever. He believes he's
already achieved his legacy. What he wants is to wait until
the "Bolashak Generation" is ready to take over. This has
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been his dream from the beginning. He wants Kazakhstan to
join the world as a respected player in its own right. He
doesn't want Kazakhstan to be someone's appendage.
Kazakhstan is no one's 'little brother.'" (NOTE: Under the
Bolashak Program during the past decade, Kazakhstan has sent
nearly 5,000 young people to the West for university
education, and all but a handful have returned. Many are now
in mid to upper levels of government and private business.
END NOTE.)
WTO ACCESSION
¶7. (C) Idrisov said Kazakhstan wants to ramp up again its
WTO-accession activity, especially because Russia is pushing
to lock the CIS countries into its new customs union, which
would effectively mean no individual c
ountry in the union
could join WTO until Russia does and under Russia's terms.
Idrisov said this does not mean the various chapter
negotiations will be easy, but Kazakhstan is newly motivated
because of Russian pressure.
THE NEW GREAT GAME
¶8. (C) Idrisov: "We will always be close to Russia, and you
have to accept that." (NOTE: We do. END NOTE.) "But we
know by experience Russia presses us in ways we don't like.
We need you (the United States) to stand with us without the
usual irritants. Russia wants us to be one thing that we are
not; you want us to be another that we are not -- please let
Kazakhstan be itself. Whether you like the term or not,
Russia is playing a New Great Game for all it's worth. It
has zero-sum tunnel vision and wants you totally out of
Central Asia, and is doing everything possible at all levels
to achieve that. We are not trying to play you against
Russia; we want you to stand with us."
FREEDOM HOUSE
¶9. (C) Idrisov: "I scheduled our most recent parliamentary
delegation with Freedom House so that both sides could listen
to each other. At the end of the scheduled time, it seemed
there was more to say. The Freedom House Central Asia
director agreed to a second meeting. After a short time, he
stood up and said, 'I don't have time to listen to this' and
walked out. Later, he called me and apologized, but the
damage had already been done. He knows what he believes and
refuses to listen to the complexities of reality."
FROZEN COWS
¶10. (U) Idrisov: "Ten years ago when Nazarbayev was trying
to force bureaucrats to move to Astana, Kazakhstan-TV filmed
a humorous report about a farmer who was moving two cows from
Almaty to Astana in an open truck during the winter. When
the truck arrived at Astana, the cows were frozen solid. The
segment was a great comic hit that's still remembered, but
Nazarbayev was livid, and a few heads rolled."
HOAGLA ND

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