Thousands of Muslims gathered at the UK's largest mosque to celebrate the 125th anniversary of the Ahmadiyya community over the weekend.

At a service in the Baitul Futuh Mosque in Morden on Friday, March 21, Hadhrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad, international leader of the Ahmadiyya community, delivered a sermon broadcast to millions of followers in 204 countries around the world.

London has become the centre of the Ahmadiyya community, with thousands of members fleeing Asian, African and Arabic countries where they have faced persecution for their belief in the second prophet.

The current leader, who is the fifth successor to the community's founder, has lived at the London mosque in Southfields since 2003, when he was elected to rule and exiled from his native Pakistan.

In his sermon, attended by 4,000 people and delivered in Urdu, he spoke about the signs foretold by the prophet Muhammad about the coming of the Messiah which members believe verify the authenticity of their founder and asked members to pray for peace in war-torn countries like Syria and Ukraine.

The Baitul Futuh Mosque in London Road, which spans 5.2 acres, was opened in 2003.

Farooq Aftab, general secretary of Ahmadiyya Muslim youth association, said: "There was a lot of opposition to the mosque but now it's used more by the community than us.

"We are the oldest Muslim community in the UK. Our members are proactive in getting involved with inter-faith events to get the community involved in diverse issues."

Morden residents showed their support for the community after the mosque was targeted on Facebook and Twitter during the anti-Muslim backlash following the murder of Drummer Lee Rigby in May last year.

Police and Siobhain McDonagh, MP for Mitcham and Morden, joined a special ceremony to pray for the murdered soldier in a show of solidarity against extremism.

Since the current leader migrated to the UK and the new mosque was built, Morden has attracted about 7,000 members of the Ahmadiyya community.

Rafiq Hayat, national president of Ahmadiyya Muslim Association UK, who moved to London from Kenya as a child in the 1960s, said: "I went to Rutlish school and me and my brother were the only two Asian boys.

"We were a bit of a novelty. I was the school hockey captain. The prejudice came much later, in the 70s with the skinheads.

"In the mid-to-late 70s ten new centres were established in the UK. We had problems in Pakistan and in 1974 more people started to arrive.

"In 1984 the fourth leader migrated here - that's when we saw the community grow in the UK.

"Then 9/11 happened and it changed the way Muslims were considered completely. Suddenly people started worrying. A lot of people came to see us to find out what is Islam."

The Ahmadiyya community is devoted to promoting what they believe are the true teachings of Islam, of peace in every aspect of life, which they say have been corrupted by Muslim fundamentalists.

Community groups around the country work with all people, regardless of race, religion or colour, to raise money for charitable causes.

There are about 30,000 members of the Ahmadiyya community in the UK, with 15,000 residing in London.

The community was founded in 1889 in Qadian, an Indian village, by the Prophet Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, who claimed to be the awaited Messiah whose advent was foretold in the Muslim, Christian and Jewish traditions.

Michael Pantlin wrote:
Now the native white English are the &quot;novelty" when you look around you out in Sutton.

Really? I still see far more 'native English' as you put it than any other race. Less than one in five people currently resident in Sutton were born abroad (2011 census.) And to be honest, the way some carry on, you'd think it was far higher. It's not the problem that's the problem, it's some people's perception of the problem that's the problem...

[quote][p][bold]Michael Pantlin[/bold] wrote:
Now the native white English are the "novelty" when you look around you out in Sutton.[/p][/quote]Really? I still see far more 'native English' as you put it than any other race. Less than one in five people currently resident in Sutton were born abroad (2011 census.) And to be honest, the way some carry on, you'd think it was far higher. It's not the problem that's the problem, it's some people's perception of the problem that's the problem...Niki R

go to tolworth or Poleworth as it is now known , it is spot the native englishman there .
muslims with their sharia law soon to be imbedded into english divorce law in which non believers , women and anyone else they dont like ( considering they say they are a peace loving religeous group ) familty members won't get a penny in divorce cases or inheritance too .
so there it is , sharia law slowly creeping in just as the muslims wanted .

go to tolworth or Poleworth as it is now known , it is spot the native englishman there .
muslims with their sharia law soon to be imbedded into english divorce law in which non believers , women and anyone else they dont like ( considering they say they are a peace loving religeous group ) familty members won't get a penny in divorce cases or inheritance too .
so there it is , sharia law slowly creeping in just as the muslims wanted .pinky107

Michael Pantlin wrote:
Now the native white English are the &quot;novelty" when you look around you out in Sutton.

Really? I still see far more 'native English' as you put it than any other race. Less than one in five people currently resident in Sutton were born abroad (2011 census.) And to be honest, the way some carry on, you'd think it was far higher. It's not the problem that's the problem, it's some people's perception of the problem that's the problem...

According to wiki Sutton has 70.9% white British and Merton 48.4%. You must walk around very blinkered or perhaps your not very observant. These are the figures that matter. If your parents are both foreign born and your born in this country that does not make you English. You are registered British and probably have dual nationality. I'm an Englishman, being British has been debased, it means nothing now. The world and his wife are British today. So, collaborator, you can't be walking around seeing majority English people because, in Morden especially, they are the minority and I drive through there regularly and full of English people it ain't.

[quote][p][bold]Niki R[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Michael Pantlin[/bold] wrote:
Now the native white English are the "novelty" when you look around you out in Sutton.[/p][/quote]Really? I still see far more 'native English' as you put it than any other race. Less than one in five people currently resident in Sutton were born abroad (2011 census.) And to be honest, the way some carry on, you'd think it was far higher. It's not the problem that's the problem, it's some people's perception of the problem that's the problem...[/p][/quote]According to wiki Sutton has 70.9% white British and Merton 48.4%. You must walk around very blinkered or perhaps your not very observant. These are the figures that matter. If your parents are both foreign born and your born in this country that does not make you English. You are registered British and probably have dual nationality. I'm an Englishman, being British has been debased, it means nothing now. The world and his wife are British today. So, collaborator, you can't be walking around seeing majority English people because, in Morden especially, they are the minority and I drive through there regularly and full of English people it ain't.GreenBrown

But not native English. You spoke of seeing 'native English' people. You can not be native English and be black or Asian in origin. Those people are now supposedly British and as I say that has become debased. Being born here is not relevant. Felicity Kendall and Cliff Richard were born in India, but they are not Indians. Why? because their parents were of English/British descent. Just because we now have three generations of immigrants descended from Asia, Africa and the Carribbean doesn't mean they're not still immigrants. It takes a lot more than just being born here and living here to actually belong here. If they actually dared to count the percentage of English people in England, I bet the figures would be pretty poor and alarming. Having to put British is misleading and the powers that be know it. The English....they're a dying breed.

But not native English. You spoke of seeing 'native English' people. You can not be native English and be black or Asian in origin. Those people are now supposedly British and as I say that has become debased. Being born here is not relevant. Felicity Kendall and Cliff Richard were born in India, but they are not Indians. Why? because their parents were of English/British descent. Just because we now have three generations of immigrants descended from Asia, Africa and the Carribbean doesn't mean they're not still immigrants. It takes a lot more than just being born here and living here to actually belong here. If they actually dared to count the percentage of English people in England, I bet the figures would be pretty poor and alarming. Having to put British is misleading and the powers that be know it. The English....they're a dying breed.GreenBrown

So which immigrants coming here debasing what it is to be 'British' do you most object to? The Romans? Vikings? Saxons? British is a sense of identity- and yes, even if your parents were born overseas you're still British if you're born here. I tell my daughter that- regardless of mine or her father's heritage, she was born here so she's English.

So which immigrants coming here debasing what it is to be 'British' do you most object to? The Romans? Vikings? Saxons? British is a sense of identity- and yes, even if your parents were born overseas you're still British if you're born here. I tell my daughter that- regardless of mine or her father's heritage, she was born here so she's English.Niki R

Michael Pantlin wrote:
Now the native white English are the &quot;novelty" when you look around you out in Sutton.

Really? I still see far more 'native English' as you put it than any other race. Less than one in five people currently resident in Sutton were born abroad (2011 census.) And to be honest, the way some carry on, you'd think it was far higher. It's not the problem that's the problem, it's some people's perception of the problem that's the problem...

Suggest you try a ride on the S bus routes after you've visited Specsavers.

[quote][p][bold]Niki R[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Michael Pantlin[/bold] wrote:
Now the native white English are the "novelty" when you look around you out in Sutton.[/p][/quote]Really? I still see far more 'native English' as you put it than any other race. Less than one in five people currently resident in Sutton were born abroad (2011 census.) And to be honest, the way some carry on, you'd think it was far higher. It's not the problem that's the problem, it's some people's perception of the problem that's the problem...[/p][/quote]Suggest you try a ride on the S bus routes after you've visited Specsavers.Michael Pantlin

Firstly, the whole Romans, Vikings thing is ridiculous and irrelevant.

Post WW2. I'm not against immigration, just mass immigration. Mass immigration changes things far too much. We've had waves of immigrants in their hundreds, sometimes thousands in the past, but they have integrated into this country to such an extent that only their surnames remain indicating their original heritage. Mass immigration will not assimilate into our society as we have seen. Places like Southall, Luton, Bradford, there's no integration going on, it's just pure take over. These are facts. If the rate of immigration and birthrates continue as they have done then England and the English at some point in the not too distant future will cease to exist or will be so marginal as to be irrelevant. I think this is sad and awful. I think any Englishman who doesn't think that this is truly awful is deluded and needs to have a word with themselves. I think anyone who has or is facilitating this slow take over, whether it be through work or whatever is a collaborator and traitor. I guess such people must be banking on this country remaining the same. What would happen to them if this country became normal again.

You can tell your daughter what you like, it doesn't make it true. So Felicity Kendall is Indian, who knew!

Firstly, the whole Romans, Vikings thing is ridiculous and irrelevant.
Post WW2. I'm not against immigration, just mass immigration. Mass immigration changes things far too much. We've had waves of immigrants in their hundreds, sometimes thousands in the past, but they have integrated into this country to such an extent that only their surnames remain indicating their original heritage. Mass immigration will not assimilate into our society as we have seen. Places like Southall, Luton, Bradford, there's no integration going on, it's just pure take over. These are facts. If the rate of immigration and birthrates continue as they have done then England and the English at some point in the not too distant future will cease to exist or will be so marginal as to be irrelevant. I think this is sad and awful. I think any Englishman who doesn't think that this is truly awful is deluded and needs to have a word with themselves. I think anyone who has or is facilitating this slow take over, whether it be through work or whatever is a collaborator and traitor. I guess such people must be banking on this country remaining the same. What would happen to them if this country became normal again.
You can tell your daughter what you like, it doesn't make it true. So Felicity Kendall is Indian, who knew!GreenBrown

lets be honest your main problem is you don't like seeing non-white faces in England do you? more than 85% of Britain is white so don't worry. But what's the problem if British people slowly slowly develop a brown shade to their skin tone? They will still regard themselves as people of this land, they will adopt the language, food and culture of this land, they may bring other ideas, religions etc But culture is dynamic and ever evolving thing. You can't stop culture from evolving. Many people from ethnic minorities marry white British and other ethnic groups. So what if they are not white. As long they Love this land, fight for this land, help the people of this land , feel proud of this land and call it home then they are British!!

@greenbrown
lets be honest your main problem is you don't like seeing non-white faces in England do you? more than 85% of Britain is white so don't worry. But what's the problem if British people slowly slowly develop a brown shade to their skin tone? They will still regard themselves as people of this land, they will adopt the language, food and culture of this land, they may bring other ideas, religions etc But culture is dynamic and ever evolving thing. You can't stop culture from evolving. Many people from ethnic minorities marry white British and other ethnic groups. So what if they are not white. As long they Love this land, fight for this land, help the people of this land , feel proud of this land and call it home then they are British!!sunnyLondoner

'lets be honest your main problem is you don't like seeing non-white faces in England do you?'

Up to a point, yes, but only because of where we are now in this country.

'But what's the problem if British people slowly slowly develop a brown shade to their skin tone?'

It would mean that we had been completely absorbed by immigration and lost what we were. Africa will still be full of African, India will still be full of Indians, but of course, England can't be full of English people, oh no. That won't do, we must change ..oh please. Stop spouting your brainwashed nonsense.

Your right, culture is constantly evolving. The trouble is, the changes that have taken place in this country since the end of WW2 have not been normal or natural. They have been forced on this country by our politicians allowing mass immigration and allowing a foreign government and court to rule over us.

If your English and your happy to see the English turn brown and disappear then shame on you and thank you for proving my point that the brainwashing that has gone on in this country runs deep. An English person welcoming his own peoples demise.....that's amazing.

@sunnyLondoner
In answer to your questions...
'lets be honest your main problem is you don't like seeing non-white faces in England do you?'
Up to a point, yes, but only because of where we are now in this country.
'But what's the problem if British people slowly slowly develop a brown shade to their skin tone?'
It would mean that we had been completely absorbed by immigration and lost what we were. Africa will still be full of African, India will still be full of Indians, but of course, England can't be full of English people, oh no. That won't do, we must change ..oh please. Stop spouting your brainwashed nonsense.
'But culture is dynamic and ever evolving thing. You can't stop culture from evolving. '
Your right, culture is constantly evolving. The trouble is, the changes that have taken place in this country since the end of WW2 have not been normal or natural. They have been forced on this country by our politicians allowing mass immigration and allowing a foreign government and court to rule over us.
If your English and your happy to see the English turn brown and disappear then shame on you and thank you for proving my point that the brainwashing that has gone on in this country runs deep. An English person welcoming his own peoples demise.....that's amazing.GreenBrown

Michael Pantlin wrote:
Now the native white English are the &quot;novelty" when you look around you out in Sutton.

Really? I still see far more 'native English' as you put it than any other race. Less than one in five people currently resident in Sutton were born abroad (2011 census.) And to be honest, the way some carry on, you'd think it was far higher. It's not the problem that's the problem, it's some people's perception of the problem that's the problem...

Suggest you try a ride on the S bus routes after you've visited Specsavers.

I was on one yesterday, and the majority of passengers were white. Perhaps there's a few adverts you could also consider in this situation?

[quote][p][bold]Michael Pantlin[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Niki R[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Michael Pantlin[/bold] wrote:
Now the native white English are the "novelty" when you look around you out in Sutton.[/p][/quote]Really? I still see far more 'native English' as you put it than any other race. Less than one in five people currently resident in Sutton were born abroad (2011 census.) And to be honest, the way some carry on, you'd think it was far higher. It's not the problem that's the problem, it's some people's perception of the problem that's the problem...[/p][/quote]Suggest you try a ride on the S bus routes after you've visited Specsavers.[/p][/quote]I was on one yesterday, and the majority of passengers were white. Perhaps there's a few adverts you could also consider in this situation?
http://iacknowledge.
net/the-most-powerfu
l-anti-racism-commer
cial-youll-ever-see/Niki R

Niki R wrote:
So which immigrants coming here debasing what it is to be 'British' do you most object to? The Romans? Vikings? Saxons? British is a sense of identity- and yes, even if your parents were born overseas you're still British if you're born here. I tell my daughter that- regardless of mine or her father's heritage, she was born here so she's English.

Precisely.

[quote][p][bold]Niki R[/bold] wrote:
So which immigrants coming here debasing what it is to be 'British' do you most object to? The Romans? Vikings? Saxons? British is a sense of identity- and yes, even if your parents were born overseas you're still British if you're born here. I tell my daughter that- regardless of mine or her father's heritage, she was born here so she's English.[/p][/quote]Precisely.ANNE GILES

ANNE GILES wrote:
And white English people travel to Spain for their holidays, lie in the sun all day and turn brown, which is what they want.

I think this might be the most stupid sentence I've ever read.

[quote][p][bold]ANNE GILES[/bold] wrote:
And white English people travel to Spain for their holidays, lie in the sun all day and turn brown, which is what they want.[/p][/quote]I think this might be the most stupid sentence I've ever read.GreenBrown

Michael Pantlin wrote:
Now the native white English are the &quot;novelty" when you look around you out in Sutton.

Really? I still see far more 'native English' as you put it than any other race. Less than one in five people currently resident in Sutton were born abroad (2011 census.) And to be honest, the way some carry on, you'd think it was far higher. It's not the problem that's the problem, it's some people's perception of the problem that's the problem...

Suggest you try a ride on the S bus routes after you've visited Specsavers.

I was on one yesterday, and the majority of passengers were white. Perhaps there's a few adverts you could also consider in this situation?

http://iacknowledge.

net/the-most-powerfu

l-anti-racism-commer

cial-youll-ever-see/

The figures suggest that there are a lot of immigrants in the area. Your own eyes tell you that there are a lot of immigrants in the area, but apparently there are not a lot of immigrants in the area. Mmmm.

Michael Pantlin, you may think you are seeing lots of immigrants, but you are not. You seem to be forgetting the concept of 'Doublethink'....

'To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic'

Don't let the Ministry of Truth hear about this and remember, Big Brother is watching you.

[quote][p][bold]Niki R[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Michael Pantlin[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Niki R[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Michael Pantlin[/bold] wrote:
Now the native white English are the "novelty" when you look around you out in Sutton.[/p][/quote]Really? I still see far more 'native English' as you put it than any other race. Less than one in five people currently resident in Sutton were born abroad (2011 census.) And to be honest, the way some carry on, you'd think it was far higher. It's not the problem that's the problem, it's some people's perception of the problem that's the problem...[/p][/quote]Suggest you try a ride on the S bus routes after you've visited Specsavers.[/p][/quote]I was on one yesterday, and the majority of passengers were white. Perhaps there's a few adverts you could also consider in this situation?
http://iacknowledge.
net/the-most-powerfu
l-anti-racism-commer
cial-youll-ever-see/[/p][/quote]The figures suggest that there are a lot of immigrants in the area. Your own eyes tell you that there are a lot of immigrants in the area, but apparently there are not a lot of immigrants in the area. Mmmm.
Michael Pantlin, you may think you are seeing lots of immigrants, but you are not. You seem to be forgetting the concept of 'Doublethink'....
'To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic'
Don't let the Ministry of Truth hear about this and remember, Big Brother is watching you.GreenBrown

Realist75 wrote:
No point in arguing with marxists on here... They call you all sorts if names! A tactic always used by liberals , commies and marxists- brainwashed programmed morons. They want the uk population to be in excess of 80 million and couldn't care less what happens to the uk... They're real civilisation killers. Crawl back into your holes you freaks.

You are a hypocrite and your post above proves it.

[quote][p][bold]Realist75[/bold] wrote:
No point in arguing with marxists on here... They call you all sorts if names! A tactic always used by liberals , commies and marxists- brainwashed programmed morons. They want the uk population to be in excess of 80 million and couldn't care less what happens to the uk... They're real civilisation killers. Crawl back into your holes you freaks.[/p][/quote]You are a hypocrite and your post above proves it.edstar

Hahaha, resorting to name calling again eh. Does that make you a Marxist (do you even know what these words you use even mean?) So its liberal to point out your hypocrisy!!! hahahahah you are redicilous

[quote][p][bold]Realist75[/bold] wrote:
Oh go away Red-star no body's interested in your liberal drivel[/p][/quote]Hahaha, resorting to name calling again eh. Does that make you a Marxist (do you even know what these words you use even mean?) So its liberal to point out your hypocrisy!!! hahahahah you are redicilousedstar

Realist75 wrote:
Learn to spell before you come back at me, now crawl back under your stone.

Only when you learn to think. Now go back to sitting in the corner and getting angry at your shadow as its not white!

[quote][p][bold]Realist75[/bold] wrote:
Learn to spell before you come back at me, now crawl back under your stone.[/p][/quote]Only when you learn to think. Now go back to sitting in the corner and getting angry at your shadow as its not white!edstar