Fucking accept that the game has changed already. Get down and ruck the man over, whether he's killing the ball is for the referee to decide, and if the ref is doing a bad job, well, you're raking the wrong person...

Love how SAz are calling other people hypocritical and vice versa too.

Whether Argentina used the dirty old tricks or not is not the question.

We ALL know that in every high caliber international competition this happens and it's known, only that nobody sees it because even though we have pretty nice recording equipment, the bowels of the ruck are still a mystery to people who haven't played forward irl.

The question is: how and why people blow up when they see this?
Because they want to point fingers and absolve guilt, everyone uses the old tricks and everyone will. Because it's international rugby.