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Tuesday, 18 July 2017

William and Kate Pay "Shattering Visit" to Stutthof & A Rapturous Welcome in Gdańsk!

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge began Day Two of the royal tour with a sombre visit to the former Nazi Concentration Camp, Stutthof.

Kate was given lovely flowers.

Stutthof was built in a secluded, wet, and wooded area near the small town of Sztutowo. It was originally created as a prison camp for Poles in September 1939, the first camp to be established by the Nazis beyond Germany’s pre-war borders. It was initially under the control of the local SS and police authorities. It gradually expanded during the course of the Second World War and officially became a concentration camp in January 1942.

More from Holocaust Educational Trust: "The first prisoners of Stutthof were Poles and Jews from the Danzig (now Gdańsk) region and until the summer of 1944 most prisoners were Poles, although there were increasingly also inmates from other countries, especially the Soviet Union, Denmark and Norway. It was only in mid-1944 that the camp took on a significant role in the Holocaust: between the summer and autumn of that year, around 50,000 Jews were sent to Stutthof. They came from two main groups: Lithuanian, Latvian and German Jews who were evacuated there from camps in the Baltic States as the Red Army advanced; Jews of various nationalities who were sent there from Auschwitz-Birkenau as slave labourers. The arrival of tens of thousands of Jewish prisoners dramatically increased the population of the camp and dozens of satellite camps around the region."

Although Stutthof was not an extermination camp like Auschwitz-Birkenau or Treblinka (i.e. it was not a place where people were sent to be murdered on arrival), conditions for prisoners were atrocious, and are generally regarded as having been amongst the worst in the Nazi concentration camps, causing the deaths of tens of thousands. The principal causes of death were physical exhaustion as the result of slave labour, disease, malnutrition, exposure to the harsh climate, and abuse from the guards. Jewish prisoners were particularly vulnerable as they were already weakened by years of starvation and abuse in ghettos and other camps prior to their arrival in Stutthof. In 1944, the camp also had a small gas chamber, which was used to murder prisoners who were considered too sick to continue working.

Stutthof was one of the last camps to be liberated by the allies. In May 1945. 110,000 people – men, women and children – from 28 countries were imprisoned in Stutthof, of whom as many as 65,000, including 28,000 Jews, died.

Simon Vigar tweeted this photo with the caption "A place of nightmares".

The Duke and Duchess were shown a series of exhibits that illustrate the conditions in which prisoners had to live at Stutthof.

The Duke and Duchess walked through the site of the camp with the Director of Stutthof Museum, Piotr Tarnowski.

Kate appeared to wipe away a tear during the tour of the camp. Visiting a concentration camp and witnessing the site of brutal atrocities is a very emotional experience. Several Polish readers emailed over the past week or so and almost all of them said they believed the visit to Stutthof was the most important aspect of the itinerary.

William, who was visibly moved and on exiting the crematorium, was overheard apologising to the museum director for asking " so many questions." They then met three Polish survivors Maria Kowalska, 91, Mareka Dunin, 92, and Edward Anderson, 91. After hearing details of their harrowing experiences at the hands of the Nazis, speaking through a translator, William asked: "You must wonder how people could commit such evil against another human?"

Edward said: "After we witnessed these things and lived through them, all we have left as a weapon is the knowledge to warn other people. To stop it happening again." William asked Edward if he thought people had "learnt lessons" from the Holocaust. He answered: "I think we have learnt some lessons but we have not learnt enough."

Two of the Holocaust survivors who met William and Kate spoke to Sky News about the decision to return to Stutthof for the first time since the war ended:

'Zigi Shipper and Manfred Goldberg, 87, were sent to the Stutthof concentration camp near Gdansk in Poland by the Nazis when they were just 14. The two men will share their experiences when the Royals visit Stutthof during the second day of their tour of Poland and Germany.Mr Shipper and Mr Goldberg moved to the UK after World War Two and this will be the first time they have returned to the camp.Speaking about his decision to go back, Mr Goldberg said: "For me it is quite a seismic event because, since I was permitted to come to England in September 1946, I have not set foot in either Germany or Poland. "I decided that I really had to face the past and hence my consent to come."

Describing the conditions in the camp, Mr Shipper said: "The weather I thought was going to kill me because it was like well below zero and you know we were wearing striped pyjamas because that's what we got in Auschwitz. "I never ever - except in Stutthof - thought that I was going to die. You saw people in front of you dying but I never thought I was going to die except in Stutthof."

Mr. Shipper shared some of his heartbreaking experiences "I said to my friends I can't walk, they said they'll help me, that was him and other people like that. Had it not been for them, I would not have been here today. I wouldn't have survived. They said: 'You know what will happen to you if you don't walk - they will shoot you'. I said: 'But I can't walk', they said: 'We'll help you'." You can watch the video report here.

The Duke and Duchess with Zigi and Manfred today.

It must have been incredibly emotional for them to return to Stutthof. One simply cannot imagine the horrors they endured - it took immense courage to return after all these years to a place which holds horrific memories for them.

'Mr Shipper said William and Kate were clearly 'very moved' by what they saw, adding: 'You could see their faces. 'They were in pain.' He said he 'most probably' wouldn't have returned to Stutthof if it wasn't for the royal visit but said he realised how 'important' it was to come back now he has returned. He has returned to Auschwitz-Birkenau several times, where he was also held. He said: 'I asked myself many times "why don't I want to go to Stutthof?". I don't know. But when I came I realised how important it was.

He said about the royal visit: 'When a royal goes and it's put on the television or in the paper, people say "why don't we go?". And that's what we want. People should know that it wasn't just Auschwitch-Birkenau, it wasn't just Bergen-Belsen, look at all the other camps.'

William and Kate joined Zigi and Manfred for a short prayer.

The couple paid their respects at the Star of David in memory of 28,000 Jews who died at Stutthof and the 6 million killed in the Holocaust.

The couple pay their respects at the Star of David in memory of 28,000 Jews who died at Stutthof and the 6 million killed in the Holocaust. pic.twitter.com/XtrzulxqTw

They wrote "We were intensely moved by our visit to Stutthof, which has been the scene of so much terrible pain, suffering and death. This shattering visit has reminded us of the horrendous murder of six million Jews, drawn from across the whole of Europe, who died in the abominable Holocaust. It is, too, a terrible reminder of the cost of war. And the fact that Poland alone lost millions of its people, who were the victims of a most brutal occupation. All of us have an overwhelming responsibility to make sure that we learn the lessons and that the horror of what happened is never forgotten and never repeated."

Kate said: "What you have been through and you still hold in your memories must be extremely difficult to speak about. Thank you very much for meeting us." William and Kate left through what was known as the 'Death Gate'.

The handsome port city is located on Poland’s northern Baltic coastline. It is awash with colourful buildings, and narrow cobbled streets.

There are numerous shops devoted to amber, the city's most prominent export.

William and Kate joined a vibrant street party.

William and Kate were shown a demonstration of amber processing.

They tried some Polish and Gdansk delicacies - Goldwasser a traditional liqueur with flakes of gold. "It is very good, very sweet", William said "And very strong", Kate added.

And some delicious pierogi.

The Duke and Duchess with the Mayor of Gdansk.

Kate was given a milky Baltic amber and gold necklace, "designed to match HRH’s modern style".

A look at the necklace and the cherry Baltic Amber cufflinks William was given. The necklace was created by S & A Jewellery Design.

Their next stop was the Gdansk Shakespeare theatre, of which The Prince of Wales is Patron.

During the seventeenth century there was a large English-speaking community based in Gdansk, which made the city an important destination for travelling English players. The Shakespeare Theatre opened in 2014, and is home to the city’s annual Shakespeare festival, attended by theatre-lovers from around the world. The Theatre has an adaptable auditorium which allows for three different sized stages, and a retractable roof.

William and Kate met players and crew members.

The royals attended a small reception inside the theatre for Poles from the world of arts, culture and media.

The Duke and Duchess were presented with a special edition of J. Kochanowski’s "The Dismissal of the Greek Envoys". Kochanowski was the greatest Slavic poet up until the 19th c. who wrote in Latin & Polish and had a huge impact on Slavic languages.

Finally, William and Kate visited the European Solidarity Centre, in Gdansk’s shipyards the birth-place of the Solidarity movement in Poland.

The Duke and Duchess toured the museum there, and met with founding members of Solidarity. Below, the royals with Lech Walesa, former President and Solidarity leader.

On departure they walked through the iconic shipyard gates, a key symbol of the protests during the 1980s, before laying flowers at the foot of the Solidarity Monument to Fallen Shipyard Workers, who died during the suppression of a workers' strike in 1970.

The Imari Skirt is described as "An indispensible addition to your new season wardrobe, the classic midi length Imari Skirt is reimagined in the romantic Hurst Rose print. Crafted from a cotton faille with a slight sheen, the versatile fabric helps hold the silhouette of the skirt, its feminine volume created by tucked folds. Has a fitted high waist and pockets. Made in Portugal."

The print is from the Spring/Summer 2017 Collection.

Perths Fashion discovered the Erdem Arleen Venice Top which looks very much the same as Kate's in a different print. Kate's top was likely custom made to be worn with the skirt.

And it looks like a new necklace and matching earrings. The amazing Anna suggests they are Milk Amber - the native gemstone of Poland. She also suggested it's possible they were a gift from the First Lady.

The earrings.

And that brings Day Two of the tour to a close! The visit to Stutthof proved deeply emotive; seeing Zigi and Manfred return to a place of such horror because of the royal visit and hearing their recollections of survival due to the bonds of friendship was deeply, deeply moving. It was a testament to their resilience and courage to see them return there, and I am in awe of their bravery and strength. I have no doubt William and Kate were honoured to meet them. We often talk about defining moments which make a tour 'stand out', and for me the visit to Stutthof is one I'll remember. In many ways, today was the perfect example of the logistical challenges the tight schedules on overseas trips can present. Within a very short space of time, the Cambridges went from a concentration camp to a street party. It must be terribly hard to go from such an upsetting location straight on to an afternoon of fun and vibrant engagements. I know I struggled with the change from Stutthoff to Gdansk and fashion. I imagine it was quite difficult for William and Kate. Speaking of Gdansk, what a fantastic welcoming city. There was enormous thought put into showcasing local craftsmanship and delicacies. The Poles came out in force over the past two days and put on a fantastic programme of events. The royal tour moves to Germany tomorrow, and if it's anything like Poland we can look forward to a great three days!

Tomorrow's Schedule:

The German leg of the tour begins in Berlin where the Cambridges will arrive at Tegel Airport. Their first port of call is a private meeting with Germany's Chancellor Angela Merkel.

Next, they will visit the Brandenburg Gate, Berlin’s most famous landmark and a symbol of German unification.

The Royal couple will say hello to crowds gathered on Pariser Platz in front of the Gate, before making their way to the Holocaust Memorial. Here they will tour the museum before walking through the Memorial itself.

The afternoon will see The Duke and Duchess travel to the eastern district of Marzahn. They will visit Strassenkinder, a charity which supports young people from disadvantaged backgrounds.

The royal couple meet with President Steinmeier at the Bellevue Palace.

William and Kate will attend a Queen’s Birthday Party held in the gardens of the British Ambassador’s residence.

In Germany they will stay at the Ambassadors' residence.

We leave you with an update on the shoes worn by Princess Charlotte yesterday. It turns out they belonged to her Uncle Harry in 1986 :)

348 comments:

What a start to the day. It must be gut wrenching to visit a place like this. It is so unbelievable that things like this has happened (but also at the same time so terribly believable). I am very "happy" to see William and Kate visit these terrible places. (Happy is the wrong word..) Imagine meeting these people who has gone through such atrocities! And they are returning to the camp for the first time. The stories they must carry. Absolutely heart wrenching!

These days with the stark lows and then light engagements and then serious and all the changes of "atmosphere" must be really emotionally draining! Going from a concentration camp to a street party is quite the emotional roller coaster. Emotional whiplash!

Random thing I've noticed (and that the reporters have commented on) is the very heavy security. I don't know if it is because of generally higher threat levels, a targeted threat or just a difference in how the polish security operates but it has been quite the heavy (and visible) presence.

What a pretty look. I really like the floral pattern. And the jewelry looks very promising.I like that they are separates. I hope to see, especially the skirt, in other combinations in the future. Kate really is into white right now! Although, it's a great colour on her so I'm not complaining. Just a bit fun!The dress feels summery and light while the white base and dark flowers feel somber enough for the more heavy parts of today. And I also think that the flowers look like they are not fully opened and growing. That seems very moving and hopeful to me. Kind of a symbol of humanity opening up again after harshness. Probably not on purpose (or maybe it was) but I think it a somber and hopeful and rather beautiful pattern. It is also rather demure in the sleeves, neck and skirt. A good balance.Not an easy day to get dressed for. For me this dress works within the somber look, but I'm bracing myself for the "outrage".

Looking forward to the rest of the day!

(Also, thank you so much Charlotte for your well researched and timely reporting!)

Thank you Rebecca, for your excellent analysis of Kate's dress today. I thought the floral skirt and top brought feeling of hope, positivity and loveliness to a place of horror. Never to forget or disrespect, but to learn from and to plant new seeds for the future. Royal Watcher

Agree with you about the problem 'outrage'. I love your description of the roses showing 'humanity opening up' and your acknowledgement of the dark undertones in the print. I think some commenters are too ready to assume floral means lightweight, and overlook the conundrum of the emotional switchback the couple are on today

Excellent synopsis of both the engagement and the outfit, Rebecca. What an incredibly difficult place to visit.

I think the dress is perfectly appropriate too. The cut is sombre while the black floral is both tasteful and respectful. I agree that this is not an easy location to dress for but I think she got it right. I think it is important to show one's sorrow but at the same time the beyond amazing spirit of those who survived. Always, the theme of hope resides at the most horrific places on earth and, for me, this Erdem pattern embodies it. Great hope in the triumph of evil. Perfect Duchess!

Thank you Rebecca for this beautiful comment. I had the very same thought when I saw the dress. Some will find anything to be negative, but it does seam so wrong considering the atrocities committed in the place to put such emphasis on what she chose to wear.

I don't find it "finding anything to be negative over" because it's a very valid thought and their reaction is their own they are allowed to have. Because clothing and such have very different importance to people. I am always focused on hope within so clothing on these occations for me that call that message seems beautiful to me, while some people are more heavy on reflection and think that such a print is not proper since it's not an outwardly showing of darkness. I can absolutley understand that. Maybe it would have been "easier"/smarter to wear something less controversial, but her next event was a street party and it's very hard to find a balance between the two. And I think Kate is the kind of person I am, the "flower in the tarmac" kind that see's beauty and strength and humanity in darkness. I think her clothes reflect that.

Then there is a more logistical part of it. WHEN does one stop wearing sombre colours to a place? It is a similar question I asked after the terrible attacks in london. How many have to die in an event for the royals to have to wear dark the next day? Must it be in a highly reported area? How long after must they wear dark when visiting the place? A week? A year? 50 years? Is that determined by how many people died or how reported it was in the news at the times?

I am not saying this to be brash, harsh or insensitive. Just pointing out that such a line is very hard to draw and different people instinctively (or by training/tradition) draw it differently.

@Rebecca, impeccably said. I couldn't agree more. I think she looks appropriate. Yes in hindsight the safer thing would have been a dark blouse paired with the skirt & closed toed shoes....change to the floral top for the later engagements. But sartorial discussion just seem so out of place considering the millions of lives that were shattered here.

The flowers are neither typically polish (or central european) nor symbolic but I don't see anything inappriopriate in it. It's a nice summer dress, elegant enough for such place. But I think Kate should chose different shoes, not sandals.The bag is dreadful.

I'm from Poland and I don't understand outrage about that print.Have you heard of The Red Poppies on Monte Cassino? It's a polish military song praising bravery and sacrifice of polish soldiers who fought and died on Monte Casino. And no one feels it's inappropriate to praise them singing about the flowers.

Rebecca - Sweden, both of your comments are sensitive, insightful and beautiful. You highlight the considerable thought that must go into every item which Catherine selects for such a tour. There is a considerable amount of work that goes into getting such details right.

To your comments about the roses in the print, I would like to add that the rose is an ancient symbol of divine healing power across many cultures as well as a clearly English symbol. (A quick Google will provide a great deal of information for anyone interested.) These roses and the other flowers are very dark in hue. The slight hints of brightness in the pink, green and yellow are secondary and subdued.

As a student of art, Catherine is attuned to symbolism inherent in colours and flowers. She demonstrated that in her wedding gown embroidery, the floral designs of her cake, and bringing English trees into the Abbey. So I think your analysis is spot on.

Also, there's the challenge so many have mentioned in going from a somber place (the obvious grief on her face brought tears to mine) such as Stutthof to a street party where a happy mood is required. It isn't easy to pull that off, but in this case it's spot on. In a different setting it's a pretty summer look. Feminine. Fresh. Sophisticated for its dark outlines and hues.

I love this ensemble. As a rule I favour skirts like this, and the separate bespoke top (which looks a little narrower than the boxier lines of the Venice top) was a perfect choice. It looks like a suit, performs like a dress, and is probably as comfortable as a casual skirt and untucked blouse.

When Charles & Camilla were here in Vienna earlier this year, security was just as intense. I think it's a mixture of terror threat levels in Europe being up and the host country making extra sure nothing happens to them - so much so that it might even go beyond what's happening on British soil.

I also found it rather touching that the meadow of flowers on Catherine's dress for Wimbledon prominently featured the somewhat "national flowers" of Poland and Germany - the Red Poppy and the Cornflower.

I feel the floral a nice choice. It isn't black mourning and it isn't a bright floral. It is rather subdued...muted, earth colors. Catherine has brought tasteful flowers to the grave of many. Actually, the earthy colors take the glow from her skin making her appear more somber.

If it were the skirt and top with court heels, it would be fine but sandals, really? It makes everything look like for a garden party. Most of the attendees were dressed sombrely, not necessarily should have she gone in black, grey, mauve, or light blue would have been good too.

What a horribly sad place to visit, but it's good to visit and remember the past so it will never be repeated. Also to keep the memory of those who tragically lost their lives, alive. I'm glad the Duke and Duchess had this visit today and I hope it meant something to the survivors.

I do really love this look! Everything is a win with me, the hair, shoes, skirt/shirt, bag and new necklace and earrings! I can't wait to find out where they are from. Much improved from last night. Can't wait to see the rest of the tour and to see Prince George and Princess Charlotte again!

I have to say I love this look, even though it feels not very good to comment on fashion on a day like this. I think that Kate looks wonderful and appropriate. As many others have said, the florals are demure and understated. It's a tricky world we live in and reminders of beauty are always appreciated in my books.

It must not be easy visiting a place like this and even former prisoners but glad they did because this is part of history and should never be forgotten.

She looks very pretty with this outfit! Today I even like the way her hair is done. Would have paired another kind of shoes with it (no sandals), maybe the ones she wore yesterday which I think are more formal. But glad to see she has still the red nail polish which matches perfectly with the flowers of her outfit.

I think wearing a bright floral to a concentration camp was a rare faux pas for the duchess. It is perfect for the events afterward, but should have been changed into after or at least covered with a coat. Dark neutral colors would have been so much more appropriate for this visit.I think pulling her hair back and possibly wearing a hat would also have been nice.

I know this will be a polarizing dress but I can't see the bright floral. Its very dark and muted to me. Did you notice the thorns on the rose stems? Probably a very deliberate choice given the location.

I know this will be a polarizing dress but I can't see the bright floral. Its very dark and muted to me. Did you notice the thorns on the rose stems? Probably a very deliberate choice given the location.

I agree Erika. This is not bright to me. But it might depend on how you are generally dressed as a person. I generally wear alot of patterns and florals and such so to me, the florals being this muted is somber. But to someone wearing alot of navy suits and the similar as an everyday look, this might be a frivilous wedding guest dress to them.

I come down on the other side Erika, so you're right, people are going to be split and have firm opinions on this one! I personally don't see bright floral but any floral and sandals I just can't get behind to such an engagement.

I do have some company for once Erika ;) But I think the fact that it's provoking such a split response probably means it would have been best left to another engagement. Because there will be the same reaction everywhere, one person watching the news or seeing the papers will say "Oh she looks lovely" another will say "That's what she wore to a concentration camp?"

As Queen of the South put it below, the very fact it's so divisive tells you there's an issue.

Of course, as I always say, it's not the end of the world, just armchair observations!

I returned from a trip to Paris last week. There was heavy security in the tourist areas. I was surprised, though, to see four heavily armed members of the army patrolling Giverny, Monet's country home. Our driver said that the army is helping the police with their duties and that they try to protect areas that are popular. It was truly sobering so see such a lovely, serene site such as Giverny with armed guards.

I think florals are fine for this visit as long as they're not fluorescent bright and gaudy. Kate's outfit looks demure and respectful. I'm hoping to find a good shot of her hair pulled back so we can ID her earrings.

Didn't have long to wait for the "outrage" Rebecca. I think this is perfectly acceptable for the Stutthof visit and, as florals go, is really very restrained. It is not like Kate is prancing about in pink and yellow with teddy bears printed on it.

WWLW? Seriously? If Catherine started dressing like QL (or Maxima or Mary or Charlene or any other fashionista-type royal) it would be a mistake. And there would be outrage in an eye-blink for being a copy-cat.

Penny, you are most definitely not the only person weary of hearing continuous comparisons of Kate to Letizia. I am as well. They are both different, compassionate, and beautiful women, and their choices in clothing or anything else (for that matter) are unique to each of them. One woman is not better than the other (in style or otherwise).

A beautiful outfit, and how touching to wear a floral to such an engagement, a perfect symbol of the renewal of life and hope. Couldn't have been better. The dark tones in the print are so right for conveying a serious respect and I note that the main flower pictured is the rose -- complete with its thorns, nature's own barbed wire.

It's wonderful to get clear shots of the new sandals as they look to be the ones we saw debuted at Wimbledon and it's lovely to have yet more new jewellery, again discreet and tasteful.

Her hair is looking ever more lovely and somehow the centre part looks a shade more serious too than the more carefree side part when the new bob first arrived. All-in-all a brilliantly poised outfit to enjoy some more summery events later in the day while referencing the dark undertones that can always re-emerge and tear apart the very fabric of life. Well played, Kate.

I feel the same way you do Bertie about the outfit and the floral print. The material and the tones of the floral colors are subdued and evoke a sense of tenderness and circumspect. It is a perfect symbol of renewal and hope....much like looking at a field of wildflowers that have grown up in the aftermath of some dark destruction. Life goes on and to heal we need to know that it does. Also flowers are a sign of respect and remembrance when left at a cemetary. I think her dress is very appropriate for the occasion and feels even a little sentimental. I think the sandals are fine too, although they wouldn't be my choice and would prefer court shoes, but then it is summer and she does have a full day of engagements. Loving very much her hair....this cut works for her on many levels. The jewelry is beautiful and if it is a gift from the First Lady even more thoughtful that she chose to wear it on this occasion. Very well done Kate, indeed. cc

Why thank you CeCe, that's so kind of you to comment. I've been moved by the number of folk here who can respect Kate's choice, I was afraid of being a minority voice so wanted to add my two cents worth. I hadn't heard about the jewellery being a gift, that would be absolutely wonderful and fitting

I agree with Rebecca - not an easy day to dress for, considering that they will likely move on to the next visit without a pit stop. Maybe a sombre shirt, closed shoes and a quiet ponytail would've been a more diplomatic choice with the skirt - but I'm picking nits here, all in all.

Memory about Holocaust,German occupation and Second World War are very important to Polish,so I am grateful that Cambridges are visiting this terrible,historic place and learn more about our history .Speech which William gave yesterday was very important and it appeles to a lot of people,also opponents to monarchy.Lovely,summer dress and very nice bag from Polish brands.I love her new hair and sandals.

For me, when I saw the first pictures of the engagement I was surprised. I even checked the calender twice. I didn't beleive that she wore a floral dress to visit a camp concentration. The first thing I said: for godness did she know what means a nazi concentration camp? I'm so disappointed. I dont think she does.A floral day dress is more suitable for a garden party, a tea party but not for visiting a concentration camp. She missed a really big opportunity to show how much she is clever and not just a horse for clothers from her designers to go.She has dozens of dresses witch can be more suitable then this one. She could even recycle one of her red , blue, even black and white printed dresses instead to wear this unappropriate outfit.I think I m so disappointed I really love her and I always expect more from her. I really hope that she understand one day may be that her job is not to make her engagement a fashion show.Amy

I thought that the colors made it a bit on the more somber side, without it being funeral-like. As pointed out, they did have more happier places to go to and things to do, so it went from one venue to another pretty flawlessly I believe.

As a Jew I'm super grateful for the sensitive itinerary they put together for this tour! No problem with florals at all today. However, Kate as her own designer needs reining in. The custom top is too heavy for the beautiful skirt. How much better it would have looked with a fitted white blouse - which would have also shown off the necklace so much better.

Shalom. Thank you for sharing, Rebecca. I am so thankful for their itinerary also. Such a loving one. And among other things, it thwarts the desires of would be history revisionists.I, not surprisingly, agree that Kate needs a stylist although I think the floral print today was most appropriate. It is that transformer thing she wore last night that, to me further confirms her need for styling help.

Yes, the blocky top is not flattering. I also wish the burgundy flowers were placed a little more randomly on the top--that they are perfectly centered makes the randomness of the pattern on the skirt stand out more.

The horror of those years hits you hard walking through the camps. I can't begin to imagine what Mr Shipper and Mr Goldberg felt going back. No problem here, Kate's dress is lovely, and appropriate for the day.

I'm known for my rigid views on what to wear to memorials and places where many have died - and am aware others have disagreed - I did not favour Kate's pink at the 9-11 memorial, the queen's yellow following Manchester or Maxima's pink at a war memorial.

I'm not quite determined here.

The print is quiet and sentimental and Kate does have a full day of engagements where to subdued an outfit might be disappointing. The sandals make sense. So it might not have been my choice (And I preferred the queen's grey for a similar visit) and I might have looked for a grey or black and white print but it doesn't blaze out the way the other choices did.

Apart from doubts about the occasion, I very much like the dress. I adore Baltic amber so it would be nice if that's what the necklace is - it's pretty regardless.

Obviously an important grueling and sad visit to make. Not long ago, I saw the Zookeeper's Wife - which concerned the Polish Ghetto and the nightmarish tragedy that is almost beyond descriptive words that happened in Poland and all over Europe. It was important that William mentioned the suffering Poland and its populace and particularly its lost Jews went through. I lost a chance to visit the country a few years ago through outside circumstances - I hope to have the chance to sometime.

I am reading the Zookeeper's Wife now and it is heart wrenching. Very glad that Mr. Shipper and Mr. Goldberg returned to Stutthof along with the royals, can't even begin to fathom what that must be like. I particularly liked Mr. Shipper's comment about the attention the royals can bring to encourage others to visit is important. A friend of mine traveled to Poland years ago and visited Stutthof....it had a very profound affect on him...I too hope to have the chance to visit. cc

Korczak, written by Agnieszka Holland, directed by Andrzej Wajda (1990)http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099949/http://www.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=9D0CE6DD163EF931A25757C0A967958260

Janusz Korczak, (22 July 1878 or 1879 – 7 August 1942), was a Polish-Jewish educator, children's author, and pedagogue known as Pan Doktor ("Mr. Doctor") or Stary Doktor ("Old Doctor"). After spending many years working as director of an orphanage in Warsaw, he refused sanctuary repeatedly, saying that he could not abandon his children, and stayed with his orphans when the entire population of the institution was sent from the Ghetto to the Treblinka extermination camp, during the Grossaktion Warsaw of 1942. ... The children were dressed in their best clothes, and each carried a blue knapsack and a favorite book or toy.

Janusz Korczak was marching, his head bent forward, holding the hand of a child, without a hat, a leather belt around his waist, and wearing high boots. A few nurses were followed by two hundred children, dressed in clean and meticulously cared for clothes, ... — Ghetto eyewitness, Joshua Perle

He told the orphans they were going out into the country, so they ought to be cheerful. At last they would be able to exchange the horrible suffocating city walls for meadows of flowers , streams where they could bathe, woods full of berries and mushrooms.

He told them to wear their best clothes , and so they came out into the yard, two by two, nicely dressed and in a happy mood. The little column was led by an SS man... — Władysław Szpilman, The Pianist

Dr. Janusz Korczak’s children’s home is empty now. A few days ago we all stood at the window and watched the Germans surround the houses. Rows of children, holding each other by their little hands, began to walk out of the doorway. There were tiny tots of two or three years among them, while the oldest ones were perhaps thirteen . Each child carried the little bundle in his hand. — Mary Berg, The Diary

He boarded the trains with the children and was never heard from again.

From his writings

- Children's books: Korczak often employed the form of the fairy tale in order to actually prepare his young readers for the dilemmas and difficulties of real adult life, and the need to make responsible decisions.

In the 1923 King Matt the First (Król Maciuś Pierwszy) and its sequel King Matt on the Desert Island (Król Maciuś na wyspie bezludnej) Korczak depicted a child prince who is catapulted to the throne by the sudden death of his father, and who must learn from various mistakes.

Korczak's "The Persistent Boy" a biography of the French scientist Louis Pasteur, adapted for children ... As repeatedly emphasized by Korczak, Pasteur's achievements, both in childhood and in later academic and scientific career, were due mainly to persistence ..., a relentless and eventually successful effort to overcome his limitations and early failures.

- Pedagogical books: In his pedagogical works, Korczak shares much of his experience dealing with difficult children.

I hate to even comment on clothing at such a visit, it is beyond harrowing to be reminded of the suffering and horrors one group was subjected to. Six million Jews were murdered in the Holocaust. I think everyone should read Elie Wiesel's Night to even try to comprehend this atrocity.

So I agree with others who think this was a poor choice, bordering on inappropriate. It is hard to imagine a more hallowed ground. Even a classic navy blue and white ensemble would have been more subdued, yet appropriate for later engagements. A floral dress and open sandals as if visiting an art gallery in the afternoon? I don't understand who let her walk out the door. It again makes me wonder if she has the seriousness to understand the subject matter she often faces.

Also, it is not expressing "outrage" to make a comment that you don't like an outfit or feel it was a poor choice for the event. As bluhare says time and time again, please spare the attacks on other readers who simply have a different opinion. Some of us don't often comment on clothing at all because if she's dressed appropriately what does it matter. But this was a terrible selection in my mind.

I wasn't attacking anyone. And I absolutley understand while others might find this inappropriate. (Although, calling Kate "unable to understand"=calling her stupid and I would categorize that as attacking a person).

I do have to brace myself for the outrage because some people (mostly not here) will make a very big deal out of it.

Rebecca we know you weren't attacking anyone. You never do. I may disagree with you but always appreciate the balance you bring to your remarks. You are the sort of person we would all want in our lives - and the regulars here are a supportive group whether we agree or not. I defend my positions but don't mind if others don't agree.

Today was going to be a tough decision for Kate - the short tour makes this difficult but the best decision would have been for Kate to be able to change her dress afterwards making this visit to such a tragic place stand apart from a street party with wonderful welcoming crowds - the Polish response has just been so warm and fabulous. Since the schedule wasn't set that way, it left her with a tough decision that was almost certainly bound to lead to differing opinions. I would have erred on more conservative but this was her choice.

I'm noticing an uptick of critical remarks on all sides - some questioning other posters coming from Anonymous posters. It's Charlotte's place not mine, but it is nice when a name is included even at the bottom so people have a sense of identity. I believe it leads to more respect for all opinions which I always have - particularly here. Thanks to all those who did use their names.

What makes me most touched is this visit - the two survivors that guided the couple around - and William's remarks on suffering the night before. There was recently a wonderful article in the DM about a woman rescued from the camps where much of her family had perished who married a British soldier and went on to have a seventy year marriage. There are so many horribly tragic stories, and sometimes touching ones about what happened in the camps. It makes for intense feelings and almost unbearable emotions.

Wow .. coming back here after a long morning and 148 comments ! Like many others my first thought about her dress was healing. We use flowers as a gesture for healing and remembrance and that is how I interpreted it. I actually think this was a very thoughtfully chosen dress and not as literal as she normally is - so I liked it and thought it was completely appropriate. I was strongly against the magenta coat she wore to the 911 memorial - that seemed highly inappropriate to me.

Annnette USA : I feel sorry for YOU. You are clearly one of the posters who is intolerant and incapable of agreeing to disagree. Why don't you try it. Might be more fun than the constant carping and policing you tend to do after each post. Not to mention the snide passive digs here and there. Live and let live - ever heard of this ? Try it.

I get it, Rebecca, but when you say you're braced for the outrage I thought you meant outrage here too.

I'm not offended on a personal level; I wasn't when she went to the 9/11 memorial either. But to to counter the people who say she had to dress for a number of engagements in one day, I say (a) I think people would understand more sober clothes knowing where she'd just been, or (b) it would have been quite easy to wear a navy skirt/slacks with a jacket and top and either taken the jacket off or put a bright scarf on for later or both.

And Annette, to say "they just don't get it" is so patronizing I don't know where to start. Don't get what? The fact that their opinion is not yours?

I actually wasn't irked by your initial comment at all Rebecca, it was the follow-ups that latched onto it and immediately took it to "poster bashing" as our friend puts it. It's one of the things that's astounded me from day one here, why expressing a civil, though different opinion, makes one such a target. I never comment on WhatKateWore because I don't have the inside fashion knowledge that the rest of you do, but I read it from time to time (if there's a particular ensemble I like) and all kinds of opinions are shared and no one gets their knickers in a twist. It's just saying whether you think something is nice or not, or appropriate or not. C'est la vie.

I would also push back strongly on the idea that someone who doesn't understand something is stupid. Nowhere did I say that or imply that. For heavens sake there are many things I don't understand. But I have commented many times that I increasingly feel that Kate lacks a certain seriousness for want of a better term, and a full appreciation of her position. But that is a long and separate discussion.

It is bound to be an uptick in comments (critical and not) and more casual comments during a tour :) And thank you for your kind words Julia.

I agree that their words have been on point. I loved that William said he was honoured to meet them. Very poignant.

Anette: I get what you mean, and so people absolutley do that. But most people commenting negative on this is not "just looking to complain". They have a valid feeling of this not being appropriate based on their own lives and experiences. That is totally fair.

I agree with many others here that wearing a white floral dress to a concentration camp is questionable. This is a terrible place where many died, and a floral dress with open-toed shoes seems inappropriate.

Sorry, I just don't get this flurry of outrage by the perpetually offended - tho' I respect your right tho express an opinion. Catherine, as do all the BRF, have courtiers and advisors and she would have been well prepped on dress protocol for the various visits. She doesn't just pluck a random outfit from her closet! There would be great thought given to symbolism. How is this subtle flowered - like the Polish national flowers - questionable? Let's look at the Polish press and see if they are offended.

I'm not outraged, and certainly not "perpetually offended" (??). In fact, I usually like what she wears. This outfit simply doesn't fit the occasion.

And sorry, I'm not buying the symbolism argument. She's a modern-day representative of Britain, not a Victorian miss sending coded messages to her suitors. A more muted ensemble and closed-toe shoes would have been more respectful and appropriate.

Marija, Kate's floral print representing prints of National polish flowers that, like you said, prints that are found basically everywhere in Poland rings true. And perhaps chosen with those National prints in mind. I found her image of subdued florals in the darkness of the holocaust camp very appropriate, respectful and uplifting. Bringing funeral flowers as memorial to the multitudes who died there. People bring flowers to grave sites and so did Kate.

That those two precious Jewish men, friends all these years, survivors together of the holocaust, returned to that place for the first time is phenomenol. Their visit and their testimonies succeeded. It all speaks volumes. For posterity. If only I could give them a giant hug.

Thank you Marija, for another insight into the floral choice that I did not realize.

For those who find the ensemble inappropriate, perhaps we ought to agree to disagree without becoming disagreeable.

In the end, people's opinions are quite predictable, and by now every regular reader on this blog knows to which side other readers will usually fall. If reading a contrary opinion is something readers find irksome it's easy enough to gloss over or skip a comment. It's that simple.

I cannot say that this outfit is a hit with me but rather a major fail. I like the skirt shape but not the top, and the pattern rather reminds me of granny's couch. However, saying that, I do not think its inappropriate for the occasion. It is very nice to see that they have gone to a place that is very sensitive and I think they have done a lovely job in their recognition of its place in Polish history. Would not have been an easy visit.

Thank you for your blog! It's always fast, informative and beautiful! I have never commented before but I felt I had to today. As a Jew, anti Semitic acts are still happening. Just watch the news the in the Middle East, Europe and the US. I understand that going to the camp first thing in the morning may logistically present a problem in schedule or changing but I find her outfit today to be completely inappropriate. It's not the flowers as those are quite pretty but the white and open toe shoes. Look at picture of the Queen at her last visit to a camp. She wore black. We all know the Queen almost always wears colors and bright colors.

Kate is a smart and beautiful girl. I am stunned she did not consider that in the place where as many as 65,000 people died open toe shoes and white is not OK.

This is a sensitive place that demands the utmost respect and should be handled with the greatest maturity. Considering the questionable stance of many royal families during this tragic war, Kate's florals, painted toenails with sandals and corkscrew curls are the least of my concerns. Yes, it is the type of dressing that invites much criticism which we have seen so many times from her...not the first, not the last (remmber pink at the 911 memorial?) Is there anyone in the UK who can give her proper advice?

I can understand you finding a floral print too cheery or open toed sandals too casual. But to criticise her having painted toenails and curly hair just seems petty. How would unpainted toes been more respectful? And does this mean straight hair is more "appropriate" and people with curly hair should not be allowed to wear it loose to memorial events? Im sorry, but comments like cross the line from constructive criticism to Kate bashing.

I have to say I love this outfit on her, as I love her last Fashion decisions. I do understand that there are mixed feelings about it, because of the visit, but I personally think it is appropriate enough, just closed shoes would have been a better choice imho. The jewels are lovely, I wonder, if they are a present from the president/first Lady, what they originally planned to wear with the outfit.

I am a hughe fan of her new hairstyle - soo pretty, gave me a big 'wow' effect as I saw the first Picture of the blog post today. Great decision to cut it!

This event is not easy to style for. As Rebecca said, the colour scheme of the dress represents despair, hope and triumph. I am glad that they were able to meet survivors and learn from them. I hope that their visit sheds light on the horrific events that occurred and through this, younger generations can learn from it. <3

I wonder if the camp survivors care more about Kate's outfit or the fact the Cambridges took the time out to meet with them. Harping on her outfit is counter productive to the purpose of the visit. But then again for some, Kate could have shown up in a widow's veil and sack cloth and people would still find fault.

I agree. From my point of view, the only opinions that matter are of the survivors. If they were not offended, then she got it right. Probably, they did not care what she wore and were just delighted she spent time with them and heard their stories. If they were offended by her dress, well, then, she got it wrong. However, none of our opinions matter, only theirs.

Amen, Penny. There are factions who are trying to convince people that the holocaust never happened. There are Jews in countries today that are in danger just because they are Jews, as in the days prior to WWII. William and Kate visiting there today along with those two precious Jewish holocaust survivors has great impact for today in many ways. It was brave of the British government not to be neutral about this.

I disagree. First of all, did we ask the survivors?Second, even on this blog I read comments of family of survivors who didn't appreciate the outfit. She is a high profile person, who knows her clothes are seen by a lot of people and has access to many outfits. She has many options, even already in her closet. I appreciate her effort to pay a visit, but I think that her outfit actually distracts or even a bit undermines the meaning of this visit.I can totally get passed the floral pattern, but I do not understand how she could choose these sandals. I think a pair of closed dark heels and a dark clutch would have made a huge difference. Please explain me how it is too much effort to have a second pair of shoes in the car for the rest of the day? Even I as a total non-royal change shoes quite often during the day when different occasions ask for different accessories.

I agree with you 100%. This visit was not about what Kate wore. To me she looked appropriate and more importantly she acted appropriately. She was respectful and the the survivors seemed to be really thankful for the visit. Of course, just like in New York, there are those that are going to make it about what she wore and not about what the place represented.

I think what Rebecca said about we all come from different traditions and training, so our opinions will be different is so wise. There will not be a general concensus here.

Liz, I just read a comment on this blog from a relative of a survivor who is not at all offended by Kate's outfit. Also, a poster who works at other Holocaust memorials posted that Kate's clothing is appropriate. There have been other posts by Poles saying flowers are so important to their culture. So I think we all may have individual ideas of how things should be but no faux pas was actually made by the DoC.

I don't mind the skirt, but the top is not a great fit. I don't find floral off putting for the event, it's not a bright floral pattern. Also it is summer, so I think sandals are appropriate. If this is her outfit for the rest of the day's events, then it makes sense. Overall, she looks nice.

For me it is very strange that she is bare foot.... The dress is ok but the sandals instead of tights with proper pumps (but probably that would not have worked with the skirt....) but anyway I have problems with the bare foot - MD from Hungary

These horrible places do not have rigid dress codes--most visitors are tourists dressed for travel, the weather and a meaningful experience. They DO have reminders of the type of BEHAVIOR expected while visiting. She was properly modest, emotionally moved and respectful.

Sorry but we can't compare a tourist to a visiting dignitary like Kate and William. A tourist can show up in cut offs and a tee but the President or Queen wouldn't. So yeah different standards for officials across the board I think.

While I agree with you for the most part, 1520, I do think people on official visits should be held to a higher standard than tourists. There I agree with MaryM. Tourists aren't there in any capacity except their own. And while I had no issue with the hot pink coat she wore to the 9/11 memorial that was a lot more formal than this outfit is.

I think the outfit was a mistake to wear to the camp. I understand others don't feel the same and that's fine. But for those citizens worldwide directly affected (as survivors and descendants of those killed at the camp now live many places) it seems a bit much to expect recognition of some possibly intentional but still obscure symbolism in the fabric design (unopened roses, thorns). Those who follow Kate's clothing and are aware of her supposed penchant for symbolism may find meaningful symbols as we examine close-ups of the floral fabric. But others who simply see photos of the visit are likely to see a woman representing the British monarchy in a floral outfit wearing strappy sandals in a sea of others wearing darker clothing.

I'm curious, if Kate had worn a more somber outfit (not necessarily all black) and closed toe shoes, would people who like this outfit have thought THAT was a mistake? I tend to think not. So it really seems this was a time to play it safe and find a different outfit since the whole point of the trip is diplomacy.

As a Jewess and daughter of Holocaust survivors. I have no problem with her outfit. On the contrary it is most respectful. The importance is the fact that they visited and highlighted an atrocity that should never be forgotten. We are approaching a time when there won't be survivors of that time and who knows how long the world will then remember that time. We already see so many atrocities the world over.

Lizzie, I think you summed it up very well. I visited the camp many years ago and I cannot imagine me wearing what Kate wore. It is reverent, hallowed ground and I remember people were so overwhelmed, they couldn't talk. While lovely for the remainder of the day, I believe Kate's look at the camp was disrespectful.

Not everyone will like what the Duchess wears. But I am pretty sure she did her homework before she decided to wear this outfit. As someone said her the flowers are a symbol, read the comment from Anon 15:54And I feel all the comments on her dress should not over shadow what these engagements today mean. But it is.

It has been stated many times that Kate is interested in the meaning and symbolism of flowers. Mixed floral patterns usually represent remembrance, hope and gratitude. I am quite sure this floral pattern, which is very similar to Polish traditional patterns, was chosen deliberately. As someone whose family never wears sombre colours to our funerals, I love the thought she put into her outfit.

I agree, 15:54. Kate's "language of flowers" worn today, in unison with Poland's "language of flowers"spoke to holocaust survivors and their families around the world and to the Polish people clearly and respectfully today. They know.

I agree, Anon. You said it best. None of us knows her thoughts, and I am certain much thought went into her choice of clothes today, as always. I guess she should publish a bulletin on why she wore what, so people won't speculate what Kate is thinking.

I don't think Kate could ever wear an outfit for an engament like this that would please everybody. i just believe darker colors for a visit like this would be more appropriate. I do like the outfit a lot maybe. It for this engagement though. The skirt length is a little odd thoughBravo for Kate for keeping it together. I'd be a sobbing mess on a visit like this.

I agree Sarah Maryland USA, I'd be a sobbing mess. I really need a solid color today even if it's not a dark color, which I agree would be ideal. I realize Kate's going to a street fair later, etc., but she wore a solid off white Wickstead in India, and she has a solid very pale pink Lela Rose (she carried Lupo back inside when wearing this dress). Both day dresses with closed-toed shoes that would have worked at later events, too. This dress looks like she's a tourist and not on a more diplomatic tour. Am I being too negative? Somehow her outfit feels less respectful and professional than it should. Being overdressed for later events seems better than a floral print with sandals for this sobering visit with survivors. Also, I wonder if George was afraid of the soldiers bearing guns he was near as he left the airplane yesterday? Those guns had huge knives (sorry I don't know what they're called) that could have been scary for a child. Otherwise, I love the enormous reception the Cambridges have experienced so far. Katherine USA

There is absolutely nothing wrong at all with Kate wearing a floral design today. In fact, it likely was a deliberate choice to wear this dress, as flowers signify an expression of grief, which is why flowers are a major aspect at funerals and memorials. In fact, that was my first impression upon seeing what she was wearing. So, to support my view, I looked it up online and found this quote: "Flowers are a visual expression of love, sympathy and respect. They are means of lending support and sharing the burden of grief." So take this into consideration before criticizing Kate's choice.

I think the most important part of this visit is the reaction from William and Kate. Clearly they were engaged, interested and, most importantly, incredibly moved and affected by what they saw. Their comments in the guest book confirm that. The gentlemen survivors who were there confirmed that they could "see the pain in their faces". What Kate wore is completely irrelevant.

Richard Palmer has produced an excellent article about the visit to the camp and the former prisoners who met with the royals. For those of you feeling the event was overshadowed by Kate's choice of dress, you may appreciate the newsworthiness of the visit more if you see another perspective.

Giving very little regard to what the Duchess of Cambridge is wearing; I hope we are learning the lessons of the past and working to alleviate racism and hate in the world. The tour is going great and Charlotte, thank you for your efficiency in getting the info to those of us interested in this Royal tour.

This was a nice outfit but TERRIBLE to this event. Let alone the prints, wearing open-toed sandals with red nail polish? It just seems to happy party-ish for me. It's more of an outfit for Wimbledon, not to visit a place (not even a memorial, the place itself) were thousands were murdered.

It amazes me how some fans will find ANYTHING in their power to excuse Kate when she dresses or does something wrong. Floral prints, sandals, red toenails, and hair down, are NOT an appropriate outfit to a former concentration camp. It's not a garden party, it's not a visit to the town, it's a concentration camp. Great of them to have visited, but she should have dressed accordingly. It's not so much the print (which is still bad) but how it was paired. The same skirt and top, with her Rossi suede heels, and the Nina clutch with her hair up would've been good too.

It might not be excuses. It might just be a general differing of opinion.

I think, in my heart, that her dress was appropriate, and in my mind spoke very well at the event. I see that others don't agree, and I can understand why. That does not mean I'm bending myself over backwards to find some minuscule excuse. I just simply disagree. As is bound to happen :)

I´m glad Kate and William visited a concentration camp. In times of "renewed" nationalism seen by many as a means to solve this world´s problems, this is a symbol of what it can lead to..... You put Siberian prisoner of war camps on top of it, add all the atrocities during and after any war.... it´s endless.... Several very wise men decided at the beginning of the 50ies that working together (at first mainly on an economic level) on a "binding" basis (i.e. through contracts/treaties), would be the best way to prevent any more war from happening in Europe (at first, of course, it was western Europe, today, it goes much further than that!). How right they were.I am German and although I do not believe in "everlasting guilt", I do see the atrocities committed by the Nazis as an everlasting warning of what horror can happen if you let nationalism run wild..... It´s still happening today, you know, all over the world, that human beings are tortured and/or killed because of their religion, beliefs or nationality or sex or whatever crazy reason one needs to justify unjustifiable and unhuman behaviour.I´m glad that concentration camps are kept as reminders. We should all be able to be proud of where we come from and who we are - and this pride should give us the openness and respect for other people from other nations/religions or whatever the "difference" between us might be. Like my daughter once said: "What´s all this crap about "ethnic groups" and "black" or "white" or whatever? We´re all humans, isn´t this enough?"

It´s difficult to come back to such "profane" things like fashion... I think the floral print today was quite sombre, but I do agree, a dark skirt combined with the floral top would maybe have been more "appropriate" on this special occasion. It would have still brought that "hopeful" glimpse to it.... Quite a program they have today. Not too easy to go from concentration camp to a street party...

Have just seen a video of the crowds in Gdansk waiting to see W & K. If the Foreign Office wanted to see how many people they can pull in foreign countries, especially in countries without a monarchy, they have got some statistics to ponder now.

I wasn't going to comment on her appearance today at first because it seemed trivial and ridiculous compared to the memory of this hell. The reason I chose to though, is because her dress spoke to me. It looked in the first shot like dead flowers all over her dress. Then as I looked closer it looked like flowers coming back from death, or out of a darkness. I think that is the exact description of the visit today. To me it says, we as humans rise up from a space of death, ashes. The human spirit blossoms in color again from tragedy. The dress itself actually kind of moved me.

I honestly don't know if I could handle a visit like this, I think Sarah from Maryland put it best, "I'd be a sobbing mess on a visit like this". My husband has visited a few concentration camps on his work travels and told me once, after a visit to Auschwitz, that you could still smell the ovens, and THAT was enough for me to cry for awhile. These two little gentleman will go home tonight and relive the horrors in their mind again to bring importance to this tragedy. God Bless them both and I honor and thank them for their bravery in doing so.

It's fairly obvious that the Duchess didn't choose wisely on this occasion. If she had, then there would be no discussion of the appropriateness of the outfit, no excuses to try to make this round choice fit in a square hole, but only questions about pleats, or zippers or accessories.

I usually do not comment. But today I feel I need to add say smth here. I work with visitors in Dachau and Bergen-Belsen KZ memorials. And I have to tell you that there are no dress codes there. Right now it is +35 in Dachau. We have people coming in shorts and spaghetti t-shirts and we would never ever turn them away. You took your time and visited and that's important. You can wear whatever it is comfortable for you and feel good inthe weather. When I have groups, sometimes I get questions of "what should we wear? we can't bring extra sets of black clothes, so what would be appropriate?" And I always answer "whatever is comfortable for you". If they still feel the need to make some sort of statement with the clothes (but not the funeral type), I tell them "wear something that shows that our wolrd without nazis is so much better". If they are of one the groups particularly persecuted by nazis (gays, transgenders, Jehovah's Witnesses, gypsies etc), I tell them "feel free to wear something that nazis would hate". So I'm a bit stunned to read the comments here claiming Kate to be inappropriately dressed. Her outfit is really a perfect epitome of that message "our world is such a wonderful place without horrible nazis, and thanks god we learn from the past mistakes to never let it happen again and here's a hope". Especially as photos of the visit (particularly those from a bit of distance) have great optics of Kate being a white spot in the middle of dark suits.

Ingeborg, you have given a beautiful message today. What we wear is not what's important, it's that the time was taken to come, learn and live the good of the lesson. Beautifully, beautifully said Ingeborg.

While I agree with you re regular tourists -- and I admire you for being able to to work there -- William and Kate are not regular tourists. And William wore a dark suit and tie. I think whoever said visiting dignitaries should dress differently has the right of it. I don't think you would see them coming in shorts and t shirts.

Kate has been carrying on the continuity. Apparently the red shoes that Charlotte wore when arriving in Poland were borrowed from the royal archive closet.Those were Harry's shoes he wore in 1986. And the cardigan that Charlotte wore in Canada was the cardigan that George wore when he visited Charlotte in the hospital when she was born. Kate will always be a good steward of all things royal me thinketh.

I am a Jew and I have no complaints about wearing a floral print to such a sad, sad place. I liked the outfit - I think a splash of color in a place that contained such horrid darkness highlighted the fact that good did finally overcome evil. I'd like to think all that died there, Jews as well as non Jews, would be happy knowing there stories were still being told. I think they'd enjoy seeing flowers.

I am really loving this tour and Charlotte I once again thank you for all the time and effort you put into enabling my HRH interest.

Such a heavy, somber visit. But so so important. I can't imagine how powerful and moving it was to meet with former prisoners, especially their first visit back. So impressed with William and Kate for stepping into that and not just keeping the trip fun.

I think her outfit is a perfect fit. It's pretty but also subdued and somber. It's something she can wear again as separates and really play up, but here it was respectful and appropriate. I like the nod with the handbag. I also really like the jewelry and hope it will be seen again.

I was so moved to see Kate wearing the rose outfit today. Because the rose represents rememberence, respect and love, I immediately knew the symbolism represented. Of course some people will never see the brilliance of it. Kate and team do an excellent job researching, and it is evident in every outfit she wears. I only hope that others can see the beauty of "The Roses".

I think the outfit is appropriate for today's events. The colors in the print on the skirt/top are a bit darker, meaning not as vibrant and 'happy' as might be appropriate for a garden party. Her closed-toe stilettos would have been too 'fashion-y' and heavy. The nude with lower block heel gives it a nice understated feel. I agree with previous comments that this outfit relays a message of hope and reflection. It looks great with her complexion and I love that she incorporated a amber necklace from the region. She looks great and I am enjoying Charlotte's reporting on the tour so far!!

It was wonderful to see the excitement they elicited in beautiful Gdańsk. The crowds were so enthusiastic, and thrilled to see them. Those pierogies looked delicious. A wonderful end to a day, that began with such painful reminders from the past. Reminders, we must never forget.

Kate, if you are reading this then Bravo!! Your choice of dress was perfection!! In The US we often use flowers as memorials and the antique, understated tones of your ensemble were perfect. I love your hair, as I am a perfectionist, the only thing I would do is run some serum from the part down, because the cameras pick up the small flyaways around your part. Blow dry your part at an angle from back to front, straight overhead and your hair will lay flatter on either side of your part. You have the advantage in that you can learn of style trends before others, use this to your advantage, trends are ok as long as you limit them to occasionally and be sure to halt the fad before everyone else. If I were your stylist, I would definitely take to hot trends of each decade and throw them in occasionally, especially with your hair, think Twiggy or Audrey Hepburn for a change, would have loved to see a severe middle part with a straight sleek ponytail or a very deep side part with the shallow side pulled back!! I don't often comment, but I am a dedicated follower!!

Having been to the Museum of the Holocaust in Los Angeles, I say, the VISIT is the important thing, not the clothing Kate wears. The gate of separation of healthy people from the not healthy, and my children go in the other gate. The unimaginable numbers. The horrific things done. The glass case of Torah scrolls that will never be used again. The silver temple goblets in a pile.

How many people will never even go to a site like that because "it's too hard" or "it's too sad"? Yes it's hard. Yet it's sad. But it's important. DWLee333 in Oregon.

White is a color of major mourning in Roman Catholicism, and 90 percent of Polish people are at least baptized into the Roman Catholic church. Between that and the similarity to the print of the national Polish flowers, I'd say this print was chosen with respect for the Polish people in mind. In some ways, Kate dresses for an international audience--and that's part of what causes the mixed reactions to this dress. We react to it according to our customs and social mores (although in India and China, for instance, white is a mourning color). But in other ways, especially during this visit, her most important audience during this tour is the Polish people. In that context, they may find it entirely appropriate.

I am from the Czech republic and here we have a former concentration camp as well. I have visited it once and it was a terrible experience. Therefore, I cannot believe she wore floral dress to concentration camp! I do not care whether the colours of the flowers are not bright or that the flowers are not blooming or whatever other excuse or explanation I had seen... you do not wear floral dress to such a place, ever. And with some sandals, too.If some fo you have ever visited the concentration camp, you should understand why it is not suitable and I personally would feel very awkward dressed like that during the visit.If you want to send a clear message to people about this important visit and you do not want them to argue about your clothing, you wear something that is easily recognized by people as a somber and thoughtfull clothing. And by all people, not just those who follow your wardrobe.Just my opinion.

Jana,I'm from Poland, my relatives lost their lives in one of the Nazi camp. I have also visited Stutthof (Sztutowo), it was a painfull and memorable moment. As a Polish woman, I don't think that Duchess' floral top and skirt is inappropriate. I cannot understand those mixed reactions on this clothing. It's not a funeral. It's not a mourning. The colors in the print on the skirt and top aren't flashy or vibrant, arms are covered, knees are covered. It was very warm and sunny day, hectic, full of engangements. Duchess Catherine looked and carried herself impeccably. She has lot of strenght, I can tell. I was a total mess after visiting Sztutowo.

If I was Kate I would have gone for a safer choice, not because I think the dress is inappropriate, but because it is divisive. Having said that I am just glad she resisted the impulse to change outfits. Unless it they attend completely different engagements like a children party and a cocktail event, I feel a whole day in one outfit put the focus on the engagements and not the clothes

Im sure there was great consideration paid to her outfits, so I'm assuming the etiquette experts would say it's not considered disrespectful to wear this sort of outfit for this occasion.

However, I'm in the group that thinks it's a little inappropriate to wear a colorful print to a concentration camp. I also thought the bright pink at the 9/11 memorial was inappropriate. She often wears safe muted outfits, so I think it's odd that these are counted in the rare occasions that she mixes it up. She's not the average tourist who just wears whatever is comfortable for a day of sightseeing. A few years ago, she wore a lovely royal blue dress when visiting a site that had the big field of poppies that people could pay for (I can't remember more details). I think something like that would have been appropriate for this and carried well into a more lighthearted activity afterwards.

That said... I'm happy to see that they had this visit on their itinerary. It's so important not to forget this part of our human history. It must have been an emotionally difficult morning. How do you even fathom such suffering?

I have Polish grandparents and flowers are extremely important to them and play an immense role in their culture in almost everything they do. It's important to remember that cultures around the world attach different meanings to things and flowers are not only or always celebratory in the happiest sense of the word. I saw her dress more in the light of paying respect and the muted colours of the flowers was appropriate and the shape of the roses reminded me of images I have seen of the corn poppy and that is a tribute tonPoland as well.

I'm also one of those people who generally think that somber occasions call for somber clothing BUT, as it was an outfit choice that was supposed to take her through a whole day of engagements, I think this was a very good choice. It was a nice & summery fit for the street party etc but the pattern still wasn't as joyful or bright as it could have been, thus making it also appropriate for the visit of the concentration camp.It's gorgeous and I love that it's a skirt & top combination as opposed to a dress. The shoes were perfect for a full day of engagements & perfect for summer. I really love the amber necklace.

On to more important matters, I would urge anyone, if you get the chance to visit a concentration camp, to go. Not only is it an invaluable history lesson, it also makes you aware of the atrocities (some) human beings are capable of (sad but important to know) and, perhaps most importantly, it should be a lesson to never stand by and do nothing when injustice is happening. The holocaust happened because of evil, horrific people but also because of masses of people who simply did nothing.

The design of these separates is nice, especially the top. Flowery prints always remind me of my mother's chintz dining room curtains! I'm not sure the print was appropriate for the early part of the day; I would have preferred a solid color. This outfit is better than Kate's second day outfit in Canada, however. The necklace and earrings she wore are very pretty, and the clutch is a nice nod to Poland.

What a somber visit to Stutthof! I hope whatever they saw at the Shakespeare theater lightened their mood.

I couldn't see her dress clearly due to the tears in my eyes. I feel this place and what happened there is far far far more important than what she wore. By visiting this place she allowed a spotlight to be shown so that others can know more about what evil does. Because she was there and I follow her I was reminded and sent a prayer to the victims and to those of us still here that we may never let something like this happen again.

I like the dress and think it was appropriate. Even some of the courageous survivors were wearing light relatively bright colors. Closed shoes might have been better, but not her super high heels which would have been a problem on the walkways and grass. But, as others have said, the most important issue is that she and William came and listened, obviously were moved by the visit and hopefully will store those memories away until the time they are in a position of some power.

Charlotte, thank you very much for your outstanding coverage of Day 2!

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I think this was the most important and moving event (the concentration camp) I've seen them attend. I suppose the Holocaust is for me a singular moving and horrible thing and to be able to speak to survivors is amazing and sobering. The oddity of the place now is that it looks so peaceful but with what it once was and what it stands for makes it quite eerie if you know what I mean. I went to the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC where they had a display of all the shoes of all the prisoners and it was jaw dropping to try and comprehend. That there is anti-Semitism re-emerging is stunning and we need to make sure young people know who Hitler really was, what he did, how he did it, so that it won't be repeated again (the two survivors rightly said people haven't learned all the lessons needed).

The floral two-piece was a good way to keep it somber (via the colors) but not like a funeral either. As someone mentioned earlier, they did have more light-hearted things to attend to afterwards, so I thought her outfit was very suitable.

I like the floral print of the Erdem ensemble, but not the open-toed shoes, especially with red polish at such a solemn place. Just my opinion! I think the jewelry, while nice, got completely lost in the print and, I don't like the clutch at all. I am glad she cut her hair but I agree with others, she needs a side part, I think it would look so good on her and really bring out her lovely eyes.

After all the years W&K have been at their jobs, this choice of dress and shoes (as well as last night's cone dress) clearly shows:--how little WK care about offending some, if not most, of the population;--W apparently is not involved in his wife's clothing choices which indicates he does not care how the crown is represented;--K receives very little, if any, advice from intelligent, sophisticated professionals or she does not listen to it, thus underscoring how little influence these professionals have;--K will be well known for her sartorial disasters rather than any good works she does, kinda like Fergie.

Agree, the visit IS the important thing. That focus has been lost. Once again, K, purposefully or not, insures the news is about herself.

Royalfan and Anon15 thank you for chiming in on my question about First Lady Mrs. Duda in the previous post! I finally got back to it and am so glad my radar hasn't gone haywire. And personally you made me feel better too so thank you ;)

I don't understand the controversy over Kate's outfit today. Flowers play a hugely symbolic role in Polish culture and tradition, so I thought it was a great choice for a varied day of engagements. My exact first thought was "Nice dress". The colours were actually quite muted. The only thing I would have changed was to closed-in shoes. For those commenting on what one wears to such solemn sites, when I visited Auschwitz last year, I wore a bright blue top with birds on it, because to me that symbolised freedom and I thought it was a respectful choice. But each to their own.I'm glad Gdansk came out in force!! It is such a beautiful city, so I'm glad Will and Kate visited. I will have to see if there is a photo of them trying the pierogi, those have some interesting food combinations!! The itinerary for this tour has been exceptional so far, can't wait to see what Germany brings!

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18 February - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge will attend the BAFTAs at the Royal Albert Hall. The Duke, President of the British Academy of Film and Television Arts (BAFTA), and The Duchess will meet BAFTA representatives and watch the ceremony.

19 February - The Duchess of Cambridge and The Countess of Wessex will attend the Commonwealth Fashion Exchange at Buckingham Palace.

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