Chase

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I brought up Martin Chase in another thread (Gravey retirement) and no one commented on him. I thought that he showed some quality play in some games last year. I know he wasn't a starter but for such a big ...

I brought up Martin Chase in another thread (Gravey retirement) and no one commented on him. I thought that he showed some quality play in some games last year. I know he wasn't a starter but for such a big man he amazed me with his spped. I recall him running down a running back from behind, after a 10 yard gain, on one play. Is he still with us and if so what is everyone's thoughts on him stepping up for us on the D-line?

And rightfully so. He has size, and does make some plays but then he disappears. He never seems to be a factor for several plays together. Its good to be able to contribute at all but what makes a player special or a starter is the ability to maintain a level of productivity over a whole game, a whole season. Something Chase has never shown, perhaps he will develop more consistancy this season ,but untill he does his butt will be on the bench.

My point is you seem to think Martin Chase can be as good as he wants to be and considering he has been in the league for 5-full seasons and produced a whopping 1 whole sack, you would think it\'s more than a lack of motivation holding him back.

He just doesn\'t have what it takes athletically to be the player that Kenny Smith can be. At some point a player is what he is. You\'ve seen what Chase brings to the table.

The story on Kenny Smith was he lacked motivation also, yet he produced 3.5 sacks with limited playing time. His athlectic abilty is much greater than Chase.

Yes you are 100% correct. But chase has never been given as much playing time as he\'ll see this year. He was a developmental player from day1. Everyone knew he\'d be a project player who may develop into a starter in 3-4 years, if he develops for the better.

The main difference in Smith and Chase is Smith is a MUCH better athelete capable of playing all 4 spots. Chase will always be a DT. I wasn\'t comparing talent between the two, only their work ethic.

If Case works his butt off, he could be a starter quality DT. \"Stud\" may have been a reach, but you get my point.

If Smith works his butt off, he can be a borderline pro-bowl quality DT or DE.

Maybe he could develop into a starter, but I have my doubts. You would think once a player acheives his dream of playing in the NFL that motivation would not be a problem.

Maybe the money causes complacency. Whatever the reason is that Chase is taking so long to develop, if it was lack of motivation, I would show him the door and work on another project. One that didn\'t take so long.