New tensions are emerging in the relationship between allies of President Obama and Hillary Clinton.

At issue is the fate of the political equivalent of gold dust — the enormous email list, comprised of many millions of supporters and donors, that the Obama team has compiled over the course of his two presidential campaigns.

The Clinton camp would dearly love to get its hands on the list, but there is no promise as yet that the president’s aides will comply.

There are “large concerns” about the lists among Clinton supporters, one Hillary ally told The Hill.

To the Clintons and their friends, it’s near unthinkable that a Democratic president — who has plenty of reasons to want a member of his party to succeed him — would withhold such a valuable commodity.

But Team Obama has long believed that the president’s support is built upon the bedrock of his personal qualities rather than mere party identification. His people are loath to be seen as treating the passion of his supporters in a cavalier fashion.

“There’s a lot of data — voter data, massive email lists — that Obama built and there are a lot of people who want to make sure that he spreads that wealth,” the Clinton ally said. “They want to make sure he doesn’t take it in a suitcase back to Chicago and move on. No one wants to see it disappear or have it used just to build a library.”

Democrats are probably hoping everyone has forgotten how ugly the conflict between Hillary and Obama became during the 2008 Democratic primary. There’s plenty of evidence that the rift never healed.

In December, former Obama adviser David Axelrod appeared on MSNBC’s Morning Joe program and took a jab at the “Ready for Hillary” crowd. The Washington Free Beacon reported:

Axelrod: You Hear ‘Ready for Hillary.’ It’s Like, Ready for What?

Host Joe Scarborough expressed his frustration with all of the talk about Clinton as a presidential candidate, even though no one knows what kind of platform she would run on.

“David, isn’t this a problem about Hillary: You don’t know what Hillary stands for; I don’t know what Hillary stands for,” Scarborough said. “Democrats – the Democratic base, the Democratic wing of Democratic Party doesn’t know what Hillary stands for. She’s so careful. She’s so cautious. She’s so Clinton-esque. It’s got to drive the base crazy.”

Axelrod agreed, saying that Clinton is biding her time and trying to figure out what she stands for.

“And what happened in 2008 was that Hillary’s candidacy got out in front of any rationale for it,” Axelrod said. “And the danger is that’s happening again. You hear ‘Ready for Hillary.’ It’s like, ready for what?”

Here’s a moment from the 2008 debates you may have forgotten—and that Democratic strategists probably hope will stay below the radar:

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The many manifestations of “Obama For-ks America” whether they be the campaign version “Obama For America” or the lobbyist manifestation as “Organizing For America” were always, like everything else about this “demigod”, about him.

OFA has organized itself with what it calls the “Shadow Elite,” 13 million global citizens who believe in the Change.

From the outside, this looks quite premature. Sure, the Hillary! camp would love to start fund raising for their nomination fight from the main Dem donor lists. Already, she probably has an overwhelming fundraising advantage over her Dem opponents for the nomination. Might as well make it all but impossible for anyone to run against her, by her getting access, this early, to the main Obama contribution list.

In case anyone is starting to shed tears for her, she is already running donation campaigns with her old supporters – if you gave in 2007/8, you are likely to have been hit up already for money, likely on multiple occasions. All before actually announcing that she is going to run.

Think how many advertisers would also love to have that e-mail list. I mean, if you can sell Obama to these people, you should be able to sell them vacuum cleaners that do rugs and roast chickens at the same time for only $19.95, but wait……..

Right, his support’s based on “the bedrock of his personal qualities.” Such as? In my view, the bedrock is his ignorance, narcissism, grandiosity, and vicious pettiness. Obama’s support is based on sheer naked utilitarian power to overwhelm opposition and impose “progressive” ideology. Alinsky-ism, nothing more. Oh, and he loves him some Islam.

There are powerful people working behind the scenes, manipulating things, but she is just a poorly aging puppet with about as much brains. When it comes time to open her mouth, she’ll fade as fast as Romney.