LE

Depends what you mean. I certainly think that he is an untrustworthy liar (or utterly deluded), so it isn't that that would shock me. What does make me wory is that so many people as a % of our population seem to also think so, virtually no one in the public that think he is telling the truth here. Yet he is the countries ultimate political office holder and add to that the failure to even call for a vote of no-confidence and it points to a breakown in democracy.

Hadn't occurred to me either, but if that's an indicative comment by a Labour MP then I don't wonder why the defence budget is what it is, whilst the Minister only has to be responsible on a part-time basis.

LE

"It is truly amazing how people express surprise at each stage in the calculated undermining of this country, and wonder how our government can possibly make so many 'mistakes'.
Certainly the issue is blurred by a genuine incompetence, but : Why would Labour - the party of the CND, pacifism, and outright marxism, the party distinguished by being full of raw hatred for the native population of this country, its traditional values and its way of life, the Party which sends our servicemen into battle outnumbered, ill-equipped, and watched over by civil-rights lawyers funded at taxpayers' expense to leap to the support of the enemy - why would it be worried if more White, heterosexual 'militarists' leave the Army ? All the more vacancies for women, 'British' ethnic minorities, increased employment straight from Africa, homosexuals and wimps to be filled by targetted recruitment, thereby breaking for good a bastion of British patriotism, pride, and disclpline."

LE

Mr Brown refused to comment on the personal criticisms but said that there would always be a debate about resources. The question is, are you doing the right thing by our Armed Forces and are you doing the right thing by the public services? he said. I have got to get on with my job, to do my duty by the Armed Forces and the public services of this country.