Many people don't see a hill, and see a an object that seems to be separate from the moon.

'Some' is not necessarily many. Many people definitely see a hill.

Would you like us to shut up? Would you like us to stop talking about it?

Frankly, yes. Or at least actually look at the evidence you've been given that shows you quite conclusively that it is a hill.

Many here believe the government has covered up the ongoing ET interaction with earth, and this would just be one more example of that.

And as many people believe no such thing

I see space between the so called "hill" and the object, how can that happen?

Because you desperately want it to be a UFO.

Sure I agree I was mistaken before that the one shadow on the ground is from the craft, it is from the depression in the ground.

However, the object has a shadow on its underside - how is that explained?

How about the space you can easily see if you play the video in large screen between the craft and the ground?

See my answer above - you are seeing what you want to see on poor quality renderings of live TV broadcasts.

I know what I see with my own eyes despite how many other pictures you come up with that may be doctored.

Your eyes are deceiving you. There is no shadow under the 'object', just gradations in shading from topography and lighting that you want to interpret
as a UFO because you saw a youtube video where someone said it was one.

Prove they've been doctored, when they were doctored and by whom. I have original photos in a variety of publications from the time of Apollo 15. They
are an exact match for the modern digital versions. Why haven't the videos been doctored to remove the 'UFO'?

So what are you proposing? That there just happens to be a UFO in exactly the same position, and with exactly the same shape as the hill? Or that NASA
photoshopped a hill into the higher-resolution images? Give it up, man!

originally posted by: hmmmbeer
I have not watched the video, but will claim it is fake. My logic is simple - we never went to the moon (machines yes - people no). Having looked at
the available evidence, physical and circumstantial, thats the only conclusion you can make. All this nonsense of alien bases etc on the moon is
purely a diversionary tactic. If the truth came out, 9/11 and all the other false flags and hoaxes would fall soon after.

originally posted by: hmmmbeer
I have not watched the video, but will claim it is fake. My logic is simple - we never went to the moon (machines yes - people no). Having looked at
the available evidence, physical and circumstantial, thats the only conclusion you can make. All this nonsense of alien bases etc on the moon is
purely a diversionary tactic. If the truth came out, 9/11 and all the other false flags and hoaxes would fall soon after.

originally posted by: hmmmbeer
I have not watched the video, but will claim it is fake. My logic is simple - we never went to the moon (machines yes - people no). Having looked at
the available evidence, physical and circumstantial, thats the only conclusion you can make. All this nonsense of alien bases etc on the moon is
purely a diversionary tactic. If the truth came out, 9/11 and all the other false flags and hoaxes would fall soon after.

You can't be serious..

He said "never went to the moon", "9/11", and "false flags" all in the same post, so he must be.

It's legitimate footage in that it is genuine, but it is not a UFO casting a shadow on the ground.

It's the hill you can see in the background in this image:

and this one taken slightly later.

The shadow is not from the 'object', it's the sun hitting the hillside in front of it and casting a shadow below the summit.

As much as you are trying to legitimately debunk the object with that of a hill in background, I think the object is too far into the foreground that
it overshadows the moon ground. At this moment in time I cannot accept your hill background argument...not until we can shine more light on this
picture.

a reply to: PlanetXisHERE
If you resize and tilt your screen grab on top of onebigmonkeys photograph above, it's a pretty good match:

It's impossible to have both line up perfectly because of the two different perspectives of the photos. Even with the poor quality of the video screen
grab and different positions, you can see the same features in both pics line up. You can also see the continuation of the mountain ("UFO") at the
rear fading into the shadow towards the right.

Since I have to reduce the quality of the animated gif to 75K, it loses detail. Here's a close up shot of the same comparisons:

I like this picture comparison.

I was having a hard time trying to visualize the concept of hill in background.

BUT!!!! The shadow portion...that is something of concern to me. Do you think the video was edited and something was deleted or smudged out from the
footage???

Mission control your pictures have been received very well. Over and out!

As much as you are trying to legitimately debunk the object with that of a hill in background, I think the object is too far into the foreground that
it overshadows the moon ground. At this moment in time I cannot accept your hill background argument...not until we can shine more light on this
picture.

Seriously? Mission Control does not ever say anything like "Mission Control calling..."

When the capcom calls he says, "Apollo 11, this is Houston". Never "Mission Control", never "calling Apollo 11". At least the hoaxers could have tried
to get the voice procedures right. The only thing worse than a hoax is a sloppy hoax.

Good observation, let me add they do not say, "This is...." Radio protocol is this: first who you are calling then who you are. It would be
"Apollo 11, Houston" .

originally posted by: hmmmbeer
I have not watched the video, but will claim it is fake. My logic is simple - we never went to the moon (machines yes - people no). Having looked at
the available evidence, physical and circumstantial, thats the only conclusion you can make. All this nonsense of alien bases etc on the moon is
purely a diversionary tactic. If the truth came out, 9/11 and all the other false flags and hoaxes would fall soon after.

You can't be serious..

I love this website. "We never went to the moon". How anyone can conclude that is beyond my imagination. I agree with the nonsense about alien
bases....but to deny Neil Armstrong (ever heard his name?) and the rest went to the moon and back safely is ridiculous. We went there, there was
nothing worth continuing our exploration so we stopped. The American people and the world for that matter benefited greatly with the technology that
was developed to support those missions. Other than that....we got a bunch of rocks that no one seems to know where they are now.

originally posted by: icewater
Why is it our moon seems to be the only one in our solar system without a name? Every moon from all the other planets have a name. Ours doesn't and
I am starting a campaign to name our moon. I will take suggestions. From serious (Sagan) to ridiculous (Belushi).

Not really the topic of the
thread but since we all know it's a hilltop now (don't we?), I guess that's the end of the thread.

I vote for the name "Luna". Oops, that means "moon" in Latin and Spanish so does that mean we can't use it?

originally posted by: icewater
Why is it our moon seems to be the only one in our solar system without a name? Every moon from all the other planets have a name. Ours doesn't and
I am starting a campaign to name our moon. I will take suggestions. From serious (Sagan) to ridiculous (Belushi).

Not really the topic of the
thread but since we all know it's a hilltop now (don't we?), I guess that's the end of the thread.

I vote for the name "Luna". Oops, that means "moon" in Latin and Spanish so does that mean we can't use it?

My ruling is Luna is disqualified. Pretty soon someone would want to rename it Moon.

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