New York Mayor Signs Order to Allow Use of City Restrooms, Locker Rooms Based on ‘Gender Identity’

NEW YORK — The Democratic mayor of New York City has signed an executive order that allows those of the opposite sex to use city-owned restroom facilities and locker rooms in accordance with their “gender identity.”

The order applies to parks, pool areas, playgrounds, recreation centers, office buildings and other city-owned facilities, and allows persons to use the desired restrooms without having to first show identification or any medical documentation.

“Today’s order makes it clear that New York City fully supports the right of every New Yorker to use the single-sex facility consistent with their gender identity,” Bill de Blasio said in a statement. “New York City is the birthplace of the fight for LGBT rights, and we continue to lead in that fight so every New Yorker can live with dignity.”

The order applies to both transgender and “gender non-conforming” persons, the latter of whom are defined as those “who do not follow other people’s ideas or stereotypes about how they should look or act based on the female or male sex they were assigned at birth.”

There are an estimated 25,000 residents who identify as transgender or gender non-conforming in New York City.

“Every day, no matter where they go, transgender and gender non-conforming New Yorkers are burdened with worry, that when they need the certainty of privacy for personal needs, it won’t be there for them,” said de Blasio’s wife, Chirlane McCray. “Today, we take a step towards equity for those New Yorkers.”

The order comes just months after the New York City Commission on Human Rights announced new guidelines under the city’s Human Rights Law that may impose fines on employers who use masculine pronouns for male workers who wish to identify as women and vice versa.

As previously reported, the Commission released its interpretive guide in December, which includes a prohibition on “[i]ntentionally failing to use an individual’s preferred name, pronoun or title,” such as “repeatedly calling a transgender woman ‘him’ or ‘Mr.’ when she has made it clear that she prefers female pronouns and a female title.”

The guidelines further state that employers “should not limit the options for identification to male and female only,” as “[s]ome transgender and gender non-conforming people prefer to use pronouns other than he/him/his or she/her/hers, such as they/them/theirs or ze/hir.”

Employers are also banned from having dress codes that would require men to dress as men and women to dress as women or to require workers to use the restroom that correlates with their birth gender. Businesses are likewise required to offer health benefits for employees seeking to obtain sex change treatments.

Violations could result in penalties up to $125,000 and up to $250,000 for transgressions of the law that are considered to be “willfull, wanton or malicious conduct.”

However, not all believe that one must support and affirm a person’s desire to live as those of the opposite sex. As previously reported, Walt Heyer, a 75-year-old man who obtained a sex change operation in the 1980’s to live as a woman for eight years before reverting back to his biological gender, is now sharing his story with the world of how Christ redeemed his life and gave him hope.

“Nobody’s ever born a transgender,” he told the Daily Mail last January. “They’re manufactured as a result of something, a developmental childhood issue that has yet to be determined for many people.”

“All of them have some level of depression, and we’re not treating them,” Heyer lamented. “We’re just cutting off body parts and giving them a new name and a new gender.”

“God designed man; He designed women,” he also said in a video recorded last year. “God will redeem the lives of people who struggle with gender identity issues just like I did. He redeemed my life, and I’ve been free from it as a result of that.”

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Emmanuel

another city I will not go visit.

Balerion

As a proud New Yorker I wouldn’t want you anywhere near my great city anyway.

Destiny2429

This is nothing to be proud about…

mrpoohead

Nope, it like the rest of the US is the toilet of humanity.

0pus35

You would know.

mrpoohead

Well re-reading means my English is poor – still nothing new as my eight year old corrected my spelling yesterday. So, what would I know?
Are you the computer software, Greek God or the penguin?

Emmanuel

No problem

Angel Jabbins

And I am an disgusted upstate New Yorker who is sick of the high taxes in this state that are mainly caused by the downstate tax and spend mentality and other rubbish like this latest ‘executive mandate’ from de Blasio.

bowie1

Are the women who use the men’s facility prepared to expose their bodies to the men who also change in those locker rooms? Even if they “feel” they are a man their physical appearance is still that of a woman.

mrpoohead

Think they’ll use a cubicle or a piece of hose – doubt they’d be wearing a skirt, unless they’re Scottish.

Angel Jabbins

‘….a piece of hose’

Your comment just shows how ridiculous this whole thing is.

She will not necessarily be in a cubicle. Our gym locker rooms in high school were open…open showering, open changing area. The changing room at the public pool had cubicles, but anyone could see around the flimsy bit of curtain hung across each one. If she goes into the mens room…I don’t care what she is wearing that makes her look like a boy. When she takes it off, everyone will see a female body. And I will just bet some of those guys might leer at her….even make a pass at her. They sure aren’t going to see her as just ‘one of the guys’.

mrpoohead

In fairness it doesn’t seem to include school and I’m thinking there’d be more private shower facilities today than an open area outside of schools. Y’know, the world’s bonkers but as long as no one’s getting hurt does it really matter?

Mark Langford

It is extremely doubtful that any woman will want to use the men’s room, regardless of her self-identity. This is all about delusional men. That’s all. Show me the transgender woman that wants to live as a man that wants to use a men’s room. Where? Who? Doesn’t exist.

Anne Green

You, sir, obviously haven’t had to pee badly enough to use the other sex’s facilities. Many women would use the facilities if it meant a shorter line to relief.

staad

the rights of the few favored against the rights of the many.

gogo0

what rights have you lost?

Angel Jabbins

The right to feel safe and comfortable in a public restroom or locker room… the right not to be confronted with a man when I go into a ladies room. I don’t care if he ‘feels’ like he is a woman. His genitals say otherwise. Anyone can walk in saying they ‘feel’ like a woman, but their sole purpose could be getting their kicks out of peeping at women….of possibly molesting children. (It is already happening where this has become the rule.) It is creating an unsafe and uncomfortable situation for people of both genders. Just as the staad commented….only I will state it a little differently…the ‘imagined’ rights of the few favored against the legitimate rights of the majority.

Gender DOES matter!…your body parts do not lie and neither does you DNA. A dress and some make-up, no matter how well applied…can never make a man into a woman…and neither can ‘feeling’. I ‘feel’ like a was really supposed to be a millionaire, therefore, by today’s stupid reasoning, I should be able to walk into a bank and have all the money handed over to me. If it is feelings are the criteria now, everyone can use that argument to get anything they want. There was woman in the news lately who felt she was meant to be born blind…so she got a doctor to pour acid into her eyes and now she is blind. That is sick and sad! Another woman feels she was meant to be a cat…she walks around every where meowing and wears a tail and cat ears. We know these people are experiencing delusion…an illness…at the very least… a dysfunction. Should we enable them in their delusions or help them overcome them? Today we embrace lunacy and call it normal.

gogo0

I’ve been to a lot of different countries and have been in unisex bathrooms in most of them, haven’t felt threatened by anyone overtly nor by their mere presence yet, and no one seems to have been bothered by me. in japan I was peeing in a urinal and a cleaning woman came in and began cleaning the urinal next to mine.
Believe it or not, a child molester can go into the wrong bathroom at any time with our current male/female bathroom setup. the ‘think of the children’ plea is weak.
“today we embrace lunacy and call it normal”.
aside from performing yoga moves to look under the adjacent stall to check your neighbor’s junk to determine if you should be afraid or not, this does not increase risk for anyone. why not allow or embrace it? it doesn’t affect you. if someone wants to mutilate their body, its none of your business and it doesn’t affect you.
for the record, I think the person blinding herself and the cat girl are weird as hell, but in the end I just don’t care because it has no impact on me, and dwelling on it does not change that.

Angel Jabbins

Well, what they do in other countries means nothing to me. We live here in America, my home, and, last time I checked, we still have a right to voice our opinions on such matters and to fight against things we do not want. The mayor did not put it to a vote. Didn’t even ask the opinion of the populace. He decided for everyone….himself….King deBlasio…using his ‘executive privilege’. That is the only way most of this nonsense is getting done…. shoved down our throats…. today….’executive privilege’! We don’t get any say at all. We just are told this it the way it will be and like it or lump it. That was not what our Founders intended. It is totalitarianism and most people, like yourself, are oblivious to what is happening and sadly, could care less.

“a child molester can go into the wrong bathroom at any time with our current male/female bathroom setup. the ‘think of the children’ plea is weak.”

It is only weak in your eyes maybe…a very crash man who doesn’t mind a cleaning woman working right next to him while he urinates. Doesn’t sound like someone who would be overly concerned about the safety of children or women either for that matter. This ‘bathroom for everyone’ set up just makes it even easier for predators…..much easier.

gogo0

haha, you make a lot of uninformed and incorrect assumptions about me. even funnier to read was your judgement of me based on another country’s culture. real classy stuff.

please tell me what is stopping a child molester from entering the wrong bathroom right now, in gender-separate states? i mean beside those boys/girls signs that apparently physically bar them from entry?

Angel Jabbins

YOU were the one who brought up another country’s sexual mores and

YOU were the one who said you have no problem with them. I was simply responding to what you stated. And my opinion of you based on what you said is that you are a crass man.

What is to stop a child molester from entering the wrong bathroom right now?…..the law. If a man is seen entering a women’s room, it can be reported to security who will come and kick him out. I have seen it happen in fact.The law has always protected women and children in bathrooms. But…if this nonsense is passed into law …no more.

A man dressed as a woman could be a pervert…who is to know? He will allowed into women’s restrooms and no one will be allowed to question it. If they do, they will be the ones hauled away and probably get sued to boot.

So you don’t condone executive orders, hmmm?..well, looks like in this case, you do, if you can defend this.
.

gogo0

another poster mentioned that the highest risk of child molestation comes from family members, so we ought to make sure that family members cannot enter with the child as well.
also you are very obviously referring to men as child molesters, remember that there are female deviants as well, and that we cant allow them into the bathroom with a child.
really, the solution to your unsubstantiated slippery slope argument is to replace public bathrooms with single-person port-a-potties.

i am not surprised that it never crossed your mind that i could be in favor of a law but not be in favor of its implementation -that would not fit your black-or-white thought process. here it is broken down in bite-size pieces:
1. i am in favor of the effect of this legislation
2. i am not in favor of the way this legislation was handled
3. i wish there was a vote to pass this legislation
are you starting to get it?

Angel Jabbins

And, as I responded to her, the high risk of child molestation from family members or persons known to the child, is in no way relevant to this discussion. Why? Because stranger abuse and abductions DO occur and when they do…even one case is one too many. Why give child predators one more way to get access to children. They will use it to their advantage. Just wait and see.

99 percent of single-victim incidents are committed by males. Gender confused females dressing up as males, going into restrooms…no, not as big a threat to young boys. I would be more concerned about the safety of the gender confused woman herself in a men’s restroom. Men are, just by their nature, more apt to commit sexual assault than women. It is just the way it is and criminal records bare that out.

So you are in favor of it…just don’t like how it was done without representation. This is the only way it CAN get done… by order rather than by the vote of the people. The majority of people are not going to vote for gender neutral bathrooms. The only way to get this done, is to force it down our throats in the name of ‘civil rights’.

Angel Jabbins

Just do a google search child sexual molestations taking place in restrooms: Here are only a few of the dozens I found. Even one…TOO MANY!! Can happen anywhere….even in a church….

1) Birmingham, Ala. A 14-year-old girl was sexually molested in the bathroom of her church Sunday morning, police said. The assault happened about 11:45 a.m. at Greater Temple Missionary church on Fourth Avenue West. Birmingham police Lt. Scott Thurmond said a man entered the church and went into the ladies restroom. Once in the restroom, he encountered the 14-year-old victim. The suspect sexually abused the teen by touching her private parts, Thurmond said.

2) Santa Anita Mall, Cali A 31-year-old Monterey Park man was arrested for allegedly fondling two 10-year-old boys in the bathroom of a Dave & Buster’s at the Westfield Santa Anita mall in Arcadia, police said Tuesday.
One of the boys told his mother what happened soon after he left the restroom around 6:45 p.m. Monday night and identified the attacker to her, police said. She chased after the suspect until managers of the restaurant took over the pursuit. Detectives later learned that another boy had also been fondled in the restroom.

3) Jacksonville, Fla Hours after police announced that a 6-year-old boy was sexually assaulted inside the bathroom of a McDonald’s restaurant, police announced they had arrested a man and charged him with capital sexual battery. the child’s father entered the bathroom about 5 p.m. Thursday and saw a 25- to 30-year-old black man wearing dark clothing leaving a stall where his youngest son was pulling up his pants.
The father recognized something wasn’t right, he took off after the subject, trying to catch up to him. A family member of the victim…. told News4Jax that this has been horrifying for the family. The woman said not only is this family coping with this horrible event, they’re also facing a lot of criticism, and it hurts.
“We teach the buddy system, and that’s what they did. She gave the buddy system, and it was corrupted by a grown adult. It doesn’t matter how old you are, a grown man can hurt any age, male or female,” said the family member. The woman also said the parents are being bashed on social media. Her hope is that people will hear her and aim their criticism at the man who did this, not the victim’s mother and father, for allowing the two brothers to go to the bathroom together. “They were in a family-oriented restaurant sitting just a couple chairs away from the bathroom,” the family member said.

4) Milwaukee, Wisc. Milwaukee police are asking the public to help identify a sexual assault suspect who reportedly assaulted a five-year-old boy inside a restroom at the Walgreens located at 7600 W. Capitol Drive. Police say the suspect followed the boy into the restroom and sexually assaulted him. After the crime, the suspect left the store, and the boy immediately told his parents what happened….

5) Melbourne, Fla …movie theater bathroom
An 11-year-old boy was sexually assaulted in a cinema toilet in Melbourne’s north-east while his mother waited outside. The boy ran out to his mother and raised the alarm. The attacker – believed to be aged between 40 and 60 and wearing a hooded jumper – fled with his pants around his ankles. After the boy entered the toilet, a strange man approached him at the urinal and assaulted him, while his mother waited outside, Fairfax Media reports. The brazen attack occurred around 4:30pm on Sunday at Main Street, Greensborough, when the boy and his mother left mid-film so he could go to the bathroom.

Anne Green

This might come as a shock, but sexual abuse of child is much more likely to occur under the child’s own roof, their own parents commit 50% of it.

greenman

not a shock as those are the stats, but don’t forget the other 50%!

Anne Green

I can’t find the facts on child sexual abuse committed by transsexual/transgendered folks but I do see that nearly 50% of THEM are likely to be sexually abused. Maybe THEY should be more afraid of YOU.

Angel Jabbins

Yes, I think many of these gendered confused people have been sexually abused in their past. This happened to several relatives of mine when they were young girls. Both are now gender confused…molested as youngsters and never able to come to terms with that awful abuse…never able to heal from it. In both cases it was someone they knew in the neighborhood. And…the molesters were boys who were themselves molested as young children.

Why are we wanting to make it even easier for sexual abuse of children to happen? A child alone in a bathroom is very vulnerable. Yes, parents should be present with them, but some parents are not very responsible and don’t protect their children as they should. What about those kids? Those are the ones most at risk and we need to protect them and all children by closing the loopholes wherever we find them. Why open up a new one by allowing men dressed as women into women’s restrooms? Who is one to know if these people are really just gender confused or predators taking advantage of the new laws?

There are countless deviant men in this world who will pretend to be transgender as a means of gaining access to the people they want to exploit. We will have no way of knowing who is who if all bathrooms are gender neutral. It is not only idiotic….it creates a dangerous situation for the vulnerable.

Angel Jabbins

Give me the reference for that please.

Even if your statistic is true….so we should now add to those numbers by allowing men into women’s bathrooms? Why INCREASE the risks to innocent children? And, whether or not children are abused by bad parents really has no bearing on this discussion anyway, so I have no idea why you would bring it up…except your are reaching for straws….to justify this ultimatum issued by a tyrannical mayor.

Anne Green

More than 90% of all sexual abuse victims know their perpetrator. Almost 50% of the offenders are household members and 38% are already acquaintances of the victims.
– Source: US Department of Justice. (1997) and Finkelhor and Ormond. (2001)
I bring this statistic up because of the concern of pedophilia by trans-people. Perpetrators are known by their victims 90% of the time. The likelihood of child sexual assault or sexual assault, period, committed by a trans-person is highly unlikely. It’s MUCH more likely to be committed by a family member or someone within the family’s social circle. Bigotry based on fear is ignorance. And truth sets one free.

Angel Jabbins

Anne, That transgenders will be the perpetrators was not my concern. My concern is that, the real predators….pedophiles… will take advantage of these laws. Men pretending to be trans-genders will now have full access to children and young teens in the women’s restroom. Sexual assault could take place right there or the child could be abducted… lured out of the restroom by the perp by the very fact he is dressed and acting the part of a woman. It just opens up a can of worms and makes the world a little more unsafe for children. Why would we want to do that? Even if most cases of abuse is caused by someone close to the victim, even one case of stranger abduction and sexual assault is one case too many.
We need to put the safety children (women, too) ahead of the so-called ‘rights’ for transgenders to use bathroom that are not consistent with their anatomy. Transgenders are a very small minority compared to the number of sexual predators on the prowl and the 1,000s of children they hope to gain access to. If we err, let us err on the side of safety for children not on the imagined ‘rights’ of a tiny minority. Too bad children are no longer a priority in our society today.

Anne Green

If you’re concerned with the sake of the children, just use the restroom with them, it’s not a big deal and is a best practice anyway, regardless of sex. Where’s your stats to back up your assertion that allowing transsexuals use the restroom for their identifying gender increases sexual assault on anyone? This is just ignorance based on groundless fear of something you just don’t understand or like.

Angel Jabbins

Anne, as I have already posted to gogo0, that does not protect children whose parents do not give them proper supervision. Not all children have good caring parents who are diligent in protecting them at all times. And even, with parents who are diligent, children have been molested in bathrooms. Look down to a comment I made to gogo below. One case I listed, the mother was right outside the door waiting for her two 10 year old twin boys. Right outside the door!… and the boys were molested in there. When boys reach a certain age, moms can no longer take them into the women’s bathroom. So they wait outside the men’s room. It did it myself. So, it can and does happen.

The question is: Why are we working so hard to appease this tiny minority of gender confused people and putting the safety of our children at risk? I did not say the danger is necessarily from the transgender people themselves. The danger is from a policy that opens up a whole new way for pedophiles to molest children and get away with it….pretending to be a woman. It is insane and I am glad my children are raised. But I do worry about my grandbabies when they are old enough to use public restrooms.

The solution that SHOULD make everyone happy (if they cared about someone else besides themselves) is the uni-sex bathroom…one room, one toilet or shower room off by itself…not connected to mens or womens rooms. You go in, lock the door, do your thing, come out. Nobody else is effected. No one thinks anything special about you one way or the other. I have used such restrooms. But, what this gender neutral bathroom business is really all about is the across-the-board full acceptance of the LGBT lifestyle….that is what it is really about. They want to force it on us.

greenman

you were urinating and the cleaning woman started cleaning the urinal next to you? and you don’t see anything amiss here? the last time I was in the men’s room you can see the penis of the man at the next urinal. I have no desire for a woman other than my wife to see my penis. THAT IS A BIG INVASION OF MY PRIVACY!

gogo0

it startled me the first time, but she didn’t care. she wasn’t looking at my junk, just doing her job. if i was embarrassed or needed privacy I could have just leaned forward closer to the urinal. in the end it didn’t matter.
must be tough for you though, being unable to use public urinals due to men, many of which may be gay (!!!!!!), being able to see your penis from an adjacent urinal

Angel Jabbins

How nice for you. Just because YOU were not bothered by it, all those who ARE bothered should just get over it, huh? Why we are just haters and bigots. We all have to be forced to be like you.

I suggest if this nonsense overtakes our nation, those who DO feel comfortable carry your own pee pot in the car…hunker down in the back seat, cover up, and do your business there. At least you will have privacy and your children will be safe from perverts.

gogo0

those who feel comfortable in unisex restrooms should pee in their car? I’m going to assume that was a typo.

anyway, there are lockable stalls in men’s and women’s bathrooms. I don’t think anyone is planning on removing those. if you are concerned about the person next to you at the sink or mirror while putting on makeup, aka when their pants are not around their ankles, well, you may have to use a makeup compact elsewhere to maintain your privacy.

as your last post demonstrated, children are already *not* safe from perverts in gender-specific bathrooms, even in churches -and a non-catholic one in your example, too! your scare tactics that unisex bathrooms will become popular places to diddle kids (despite not being the case elsewhere in the world) continue to be unsubstantiated.

ken

That’s really stupid.

acontraryview

“I have no desire for a woman other than my wife to see my penis.”

A woman is not going to be using urinal – your penis is safe from viewing.

Angel Jabbins

Huh? How is that? If a gender confused (trans) woman enters a men’s restroom dressed as a man, doesn’t she have to walk by the urinals to get to a stall to do her thing? We are to trust she will keep her eyes averted? The point is people should feel comfortable using the restroom and not have to worry about someone of the opposite sex seeing them in the buff. It is a private thing and needs to stay that way. Dressing up like a man does not make a woman into a man. Dressing up like a woman does not make a man into woman. This is pure delusion…not reality…. and yet we are supposed to swallow it hook, line, and sinker.

Becky

Spot on!

acontraryview

“The right to feel safe and comfortable in a public restroom or locker room.. the right not to be confronted with a man when I go into a ladies room.”

I guess I missed those rights in the Constitution. Where are they?

“but their sole purpose could be getting their kicks out of peeping at women”

Oh please. These laws have been in place for years in other locations. There have been no cases of that have arisen because of them. What about lesbians using female restrooms and locker rooms because they get “their kicks out of peeping at women”?

“I ‘feel’ like a was really supposed to be a millionaire, therefore, by today’s stupid reasoning, I should be able to walk into a bank and have all the money handed over to me.”

Oh yes, that makes complete sense as an analogy.

“Should we enable them in their delusions or help them overcome them?”

And how should we “help” them, Angel? Maybe forced shock therapy? Maybe forced medication? Maybe forcing them to dress as the gender they were born as? How very totalitarian of you. Yes, Angel, we should “help” them to be as you believe they should be. Maybe you can decide what you think everyone should be like and then we can “help” them to be like that.

Angel Jabbins

You libs are always yelling about the ‘right of privacy’….so back on ‘ya. We all have a right to personal privacy, especially as it concerns modesty…not to be subjected to have to see the private parts of the opposite sex in a bathroom and possibly having our own bodies viewed by person of the opposite sex. That doesn’t have to be spelled out word for word in the Constitution. Women feel vulnerable in these situations. We do have a right to pee and undress in private amongst our own sex. I said nothing about lesbians in a women’s bathroom. But why would they be in there anyway….if according to you folks…they are really men, then they will want to be in the men’s bathroom. Right?

“These laws have been in place for years in other locations. There have been no cases of that have arisen because of them”

I have never seen a single bathroom by law open to transgenders…but probably will soon with these changes in the law. We have had uni-sex one room bathrooms where people of either sex can go in and lock the door behind them. But no completely non-gender bathrooms that I know of. But, I do know that, as these laws are being enacted, we are, in fact, starting to see problems arising. These rulings are a predator’s dream. It will now be so easy for them to dress up as women and pretend to be trans…to get access to women to rape or to children to molest. There are already several stories in the news lately about this very thing happening. And there will be more of it as these laws overtake the land. The safety of women and children should be society’s main concern.
Help should be available to those who want it rather all reparative therapies being outlaw which is now the trend. I doubt shock treatment would be the method used today for transgenderism or any other known mental problem. There is compassionate help available and should continue to be available for those who want to seek it. Many have come out of these lifestyles so it is not as hopeless as you make it sound. People should have a choice regarding therapy. No one need be forced to accept any treatment they do not want. But that does not mean it should not be available to those you do want it. Outlawing it completely….now that is what is totalitarian.

acontraryview

“We all have a right to personal privacy”

Actually, no, you don’t have any such right

“Outlawing it completely….now that is what is totalitarian.”

It has not been outlawed completely in any location. Only for minors.

greenman

there is no right in the constitution to accommodate mental illness like transgenderism. yes they need help, just like a schizophrenic and bipolar individual needs help. If they have the surgery to change their sex fine let them use the restroom that fits their anatomy. But if they say they feel like the opposite sex that is not enough to be in the opposite restroom. I agree with Angel 100% . If I ever see a person of the opposite genitalia in the mens room I will tell them they are in the wrong room and point them to the ladies room! For God;s sake when are we going to stop this insanity of everything embracing every sick and perverted thing that people can dream up?

acontraryview

“there is no right in the constitution to accommodate mental illness like transgenderism.”

No one suggested there was.

“If I ever see a person of the opposite genitalia in the mens room I will tell them they are in the wrong room and point them to the ladies room! ”

I’d suggest you stop looking at the genitalia of people in the restroom. It’s kind of creepy.

Balerion

Wondering when Mike Huckabee is going to paying a visit to New York so he can live out his dream of claiming to be a woman so he can use the women’s showers.

Oboehner

He could join up with Hillary and live the dream together.

Balerion

I couldn’t care less just as long as I didn’t have to see it. (Just to make it clear, I despise Hillary as much as I despise most republicans).

Oboehner

Just to make it clear, I wasn’t defending the Huckster.

mrpoohead

Maybe Caitlyn Jenner would be more appropiate?

Oboehner

Sure, old Bruce is just as confused as the other two.

Amos Moses

Sodom and Egypt………..Babylon…………the head of the beast.

mrpoohead

I suspect with those buggy eyes you forgot the jelly? Why is the above comment related to the article?

gogo0

ominous words… fairy tale… the doomsday prophecy.

mrpoohead

Nope, not really. Will assume you are implying that NY is the great evil and the head of all ill’s, thus removing it will cauterize the rest of the US from the spread. Think you’re dreaming – the whole country is going to hell, being as it ignores the Bible’s basic concepts. Social responsibility and acceptance.

gogo0

haha, sorry no. i was just mocking the earlier reply. should have added a sarcasm tag on there

Amos Moses

““New York City is the birthplace of the fight for LGBT rights, and we continue to lead in that fight so every New Yorker can live with dignity.””

Except those who don’t agree and their dignity they could not care less about…………. Tyranny of the minority.

Destiny2429

This is ridiculous! People need Jesus! People need spiritual food, which is God’s Word! Your birth gender is your gender! Ze or hir…really! There is no common sense in the world anymore…because if common sense was common, more people would have it! Does anyone really feel comfortable letting their young daughter go in a public restroom, now that there can be full grown men in there who identify as women?! This is madness…babylon…confusion

Jalapeno

” Does anyone really feel comfortable letting their young daughter go in a public restroom, now that there can be full grown men in there who identify as women?!”

Absolutely.

I’m more comfortable with me, or my kids, in a bathroom with a person identifying as female than a person identifying as male…

Oboehner

There’s one “I’m more comfortable with me, or my kids, in a bathroom with a whack-job claiming he’s female than a person who knows what he is…”

Jalapeno

So you would prefer that someone who identifies as male goes in the woman’s bathroom?

Oboehner

And the difference would be?

Jalapeno

I’m not sure how you could struggle with the difference between someone identifying as male and someone identifying as female.

Either the trans individuals identifying as a female goes in the womens bathroom, or the one identifying as a male.

Oboehner

I have no difficulty, if it has male parts, men’s bathroom. Female parts, women’s bathroom – see no problem.

Jalapeno

I see a problem.

Someone is attracted to women, dresses like a man, acts like a man, has a mans name, and is socially treated as male.

They would be forced to use the womens bathroom.

I do not want them to be forced to use the bathroom with me.

Oboehner

Perhaps some mental help would be in order.

Quantz

How would you feel if the man standing next to you at the urinal was gay? Probably happens all the time, you know.

Angel Jabbins

One who identifies himself as a male is not now, nor ever has been, allowed in a womens restroom. So what is your point?
But with this ruling…we WILL have men in the women’s rest room…delusional men who just ‘feel’ they are women because….well, they just ‘feel’ they are. No science to prove they have become a woman, or were one since birth….none….zero….zilch…nada. All based on FEELINGS. What about my feelings? Hmmm?

Jalapeno

“One who identifies himself as a male is not now, nor ever has been, allowed in a womens restroom”

Except..if we say that you must go in the bathroom based on your birth sex, we will be forcing a FtM transgendered individual to be using the womens bathroom..even if they identify as male.

Whine all you want about how they’re REALLY women and all that fun stuff, but the fact remains that they look like men and associate as a man.

Angel Jabbins

‘The fact remains they look like men and associate as a man’
What people ‘feel’ is not necessarily the FACT of who they really are. The gender of a person is decided by one thing only: what is between their legs. Where are we getting this ridiculous idea that gender is optional, just a choice people can make for themselves? It is delusional to believe that. Clothes, make-up, ‘feelings’ do not make a man into a women any more than they can make me into a millionaire. But, hey, wait….. I ‘feel’ like I AM be a millionaire! Who is to tell I am not one! How insensitive…how bigoted pf you! But….news flash…. no matter how much I ‘feel’ that is my personal reality, if I walk into a store and start trying to buy everything in the place….guess what? I am going to be told quite quickly that I am NOT a millionaire. “But I ‘feel’ like I am one I protest….and I look like one and I associate with millionaires.” Won’t wash!

Jalapeno

Do they look like men and associate with men?

Angel Jabbins

Looking like a man and associating with men….does NOT a make one a man. DUH!!! What will it take to get through to people who have lost the ability to think and reason….who only know the world through their feelings? You are believing in illogic.

In your world:

I FEEL like I should have been a cat… dress up like a cat….wear cat ears, a tail, have whiskers, eat cat food, even chase mice, and I associate only with cats…..does that make me a cat????!

I FEEL like a should have been born blind. I pretend I can’t see, take to learning braille. Then finally I pour acid in my eyes losing my eyesight forever. Yes, now I AM blind. Natural and good for me or should someone have suggested I needed help before I did such a drastic thing to myself?

I FEEL like a should have been born black. I tint my skin and wear my hair in an Afro and associate with mostly black people, even working my way up to be the leader of a black civil rights organization….Am I really black? Can’t be because this truly happened and this fake black lady was kicked out of that organization by the real blacks. To them, she was not black.

You are living in a delusional world and not the real world of science and logic and cold hard facts.

Josey

To the defiled all things are defiled, to the pure all things are pure. I think Jalapeno or whomever is very confused.

gogo0

we already have delusional women who think they can cook, delusional men who think they are suave, delusional kids who think they have an invisible friend (though it’s mostly adults indulging in that)…

Angel Jabbins

Anybody can have delusions about who or what they are, BUT to force them on the rest of society….the delusions of a tiny minority on the majority…that is tyranny.

Josey

I feel sorry for your children, their risk of meeting a pedophile just increased. These can claim to be anything they want w/out rule, my grandchildren will never go into a restroom designated such as this!

Jalapeno

I agree that there should be some sort of standards in place, and I’d be amazed if there wasn’t.

However..I’m not sure why you would rather have people who consider themselves to be men in the bathroom with your daughters and granddaughters.

Josey

I have no idea what you are referring to, the only one who should be allowed into a female restroom or shower facility should be a born female and vice versa!

Jalapeno

Think about it for a second.

We have cis men and women…they are born as a man or a woman and identify as such.

Some men though end up identifying as a woman. They dress as a woman, get feminine hair cuts, try to pass as a woman, change their name and gender and are often attracted to men.

Some women will dress as a man, get masculine hair cuts and do everything they can to appear to BE a man. It doesn’t matter if someone disagrees and says that they’re still a woman, they are trying to appear as a man…and it’s pretty likely that they’re attracted to women too.

So..if we say that a person who is born a man but tries to pass as a woman MUST use the mens bathroom, then the people who are born as a woman but try to pass as a man MUST use the womens.

I don’t want anyone who identifies as a man in the bathroom with me.

Josey

And yes I am saying there will be many pedophile men who put on a dress and claim that they are transgender just to get into those restrooms, bathing facilities, shower facilities. And most who claim to be transgender have not had surgery, they still have their penis.

Jalapeno

People who simply put on a dress should not be allowed into the different restroom.

People who actually are actively transgender though, with or without surgery, should not be forced to go into the bathroom where they stand out. I do not want someone who identifies as male to be forced to go in the bathroom with me. Why would you insist on that?

Amos Moses

So we have been living in a society where it is supposed to be color blind and other kinds of voluntary blindness to peoples outward appearance…… and the only way to do that now… it seems… is to inquire even more deeply about who and what you are and not be blind to it.
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Are you gay? The question isn’t taboo in the workplace anymore, for better or worse.

JPMorgan Chase & Co.’s human resources department is asking employees for the first time this year if they’d like to disclose their sexual orientation or gender identity. Companies including Facebook Inc., Deutsche Bank AG, IBM Corp. and AT&T Inc. also collect the data. By one measure, nearly half of the largest U.S. businesses — under pressure to be inclusive as they compete for talent — seek to gather information on who on the payroll is homosexual, bisexual or transgender so better benefit plans can be designed and managers can consider diversity enhancing promotions.

“Collecting the data is not weird now,” says Gary Gates, a retired demographer from UCLA Law School’s Charles R. Williams Institute. With the U.S. Supreme Court having legalized same-sex marriage and the military abandoning its don’t ask, don’t tell policy, “there’s much less fear and stigma.”

That may be true, but there’s enough peril that Chevron Corp. decided not to pose the question after a review identified data-security risks. Many that have studied the issue opted not to proceed, says Michelle Phillips, a lawyer with Jackson Lewis in White Plains, New York, who advises companies on employment law. Phillips says one worry is that a rogue employee might leak the information about a colleague to do him or her harm.
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Bazzackward and upside down…………….The only way to not be a racist or “bigot’ is to be a racist and a “bigot” by dividing everyone just as a racist and a “bigot” would divide them so you are not a racist and a “bigot” and then to not violate the law, we must then violate the law so we do not violate the law.

Becky

“Every day, no matter where they go, transgender and gender non-conforming New Yorkers are burdened with worry, that when they need the certainty of privacy for personal needs, it won’t be there for them,” said de Blasio’s wife, Chirlane McCray. “Today, we take a step towards equity for those New Yorkers.”

Lol!! What?? These people are absolutely bonkers. How does a man that thinks he’s a woman not have privacy in the men’s bathroom?? He’s got the same parts!! He wouldn’t be showing, or looking at, anything he hasn’t seen before. If he decides to get a “sex change” it will not change what he really is…a he. Just look at Mr. Bruce Jenner. With all the plastic surgery that man has done, he still looks like a man…in a dress…because he is a man! The majority of women will never accept this. Let the lawsuits commence.

acontraryview

Oh my gosh. This is just horrible. What’s next….cats and dogs living together?????

gogo0

i hate to break this to you, but cats and dogs have been living in sin together since obama was elected

Gary Whiteman

Politicians making crazy people feel good about themselves. Only the insane would pander to the insane.

Herb Planter

lol new york more like new gamora. do they relize how many perverts are gonna be goin to the girl’s bathroom now? i pray for the ladies that live there.

Anne Green

I have no problem with sharing a restroom with a transsexual individual, or a heterosexual man for that matter. I’ve frequently worked in all-male environments where there were no separate facilities for restroom or showering (stalls) and I’ve never had a problem with assault or lewdness, nor have I heard of any complaints… As far as pedophilia goes, 45% of child molestation is committed by children’s own fathers/stepfathers, it’s much more likely to occur within one’s own family or neighbors. But if safety is a concern, go to the restroom with your child, probably a best practice anyway.

gogo0

facts dont matter, because after the weak arguments are broken by them, this all boils down to ‘the bible says…’. their position may be completely untenable, devoid of logic, and contrary to reality because of it, but that’s what they’ll cling to

Anne Green

The Bible tells me where I’m supposed to use the restroom?!! 😳 Musta missed that part lol

gogo0

funny how ‘we are created in god’s image’ is their argument’s foundation (well, that and ‘its yucky i dont like it!’) for this, but blind, deaf, physically disabled, mentally retarded, and other deviations to their imaginary god template dont pose a problem.

0pus35

Maybe you don’t care, because you are not normal.

Normal sane human beings have rights too. Being bullied by a herd of angry psychotics fixated on sex is something we don’t like. I realize that people like you are fixated only on your own feelings, but here’s a memo you didn’t get: Other people matter. Not just insane people who pretend to be the opposite sex. Decent people matter too. Go learn some religion other than the narcissism you are now practicing.

Anne Green

What are you talking about? I’m not the flipping a noodle over who’s peeing in the stall next to me. If you fear peeing in public restrooms due to who might be there also, what germs me get be there, or any other hang up about it, stay home. And honestly I’ve never seen a group of more sexually-fixated group of folks than some on this website. Quit whining that the world is not to your liking.

calduncan

Troll

Anne Green

Yes, you are one.

ConCern

So you are naked having a bath and a man with an erection is next to you having a bath, and that doesn’t bother you?
So, how often have you taken that erection into you? if it is too personal, ignore it.

Anne Green

So, ConCern, there you are, taking a shower at the local “Y” and a man next to you has an erection, does that bother you? How often have you had gay sex? What? It hasn’t happened?? THERE’S your answer. Nudity does not equal sex.

ConCern

” How often have you had gay sex? ” You mean those men are gay?
No wonder they did not make a pass at you…in any event, there are many other women who can’t resist a real man sexual advances in such a setting. IMHO, It is bad advice to go naked in the same bath room with men other than your husband.
But thanks for your answer.

Anne Green

Puke 😖 It takes a lot more to interest most women in a man than having anatomical parts. I bet you think women breastfeeding is all about sex, too. FYI, I handle myself just fine in a bathroom regardless of who’s in the stall next to me. And I don’t need a daddy or husband to protect me, thank you.

ConCern

The response was no-longer about you , it was about other women, or men for that matter. They are not all like you…you seems to have it all together. In reality, and in this sex driven society, (where sex is free and plentiful, even in public bathrooms) people are having much sex. But , you seems to be above the fray; Good for you, I hope you stay up there…and don’t come down.
But I know for a fact, that many other women once speak like you, until they can’t resist a man’s bulge and erection, and will take it, even in public wash-rooms…but not you, so , continue to bathe with men, you are truly one in a million.

Anne Green

Yes, sex is free and plentiful, but it is not a focal point. Yes, I do have it fairly well put together. I don’t worry about “falling” (whatever you’re referring to) at all, nor do I obsess about sex. At work, I’ve always been treated with utmost respect and courtesy, but perhaps it’s the industry.

ConCern

Like I said, it is NOT about you, not all women worked in the Oil Fields. Not all, have the resistance and self control as you do. IMO, you are playing with fire.
The Wise man Solomon said in Proverbs, “can a man put hot coals in his chest and not get burned? The idea is to flee sexual immorality, for it will over power you, as much as one may not want to.
I hope you are not a Lesbian?

Anne Green

I get it, I must be a Lesbian to not hop in the sack with every naked man I see? You’re ridiculous. You espouse self-control then then imply neither I nor men have any real control or that it’s fragile or whatever. So let’s start over. No I’m not Lesbian (not that it matters much). Yes, I’ve used common bathrooms in my workplace with no problems. Nudity does not equate to sexual immorality and I have no fear of it or transsexuals in the bathroom. Statistically, transsexuals are the least of one’s worries when it comes to child sexual abuse, it’s much more likely to committed by the child’s own parents. I don’t see a problem with transsexuals in the bathroom, nor do I see it conflicting with anything in the Bible about where to pee. So, if you’re done questioning my sexual preferences and habits (which are really none of your business), I think we’re done here. Have a good day.

Kingdom Ambassador

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sandra-paquette-

The joys of putting the Lib’s in – just amazing how man goes from one blunder into another. All because they don’t want to follow the laws of God. WHAT A MESS.

Bob

look at the big demonic grin he summonsed up for the pic

Gregory Alan of Johnson

There’s a few males masquerading as females in that pic. I pray Romans 1:18-32 be manifest in their lives, in the name of Yeshua!

Gena B

I wouldn’t have a problem with someone like Bruce Jenner using the stall next to me, I mean this has probably been going on a while and we never noticed. The problem stems from those who would abuse or take advantage of this for evil. If a big lumberjack 6’5 guy with a heavy beard comes into the stall next to me I might feel a little uncomfortable. The bill means they can’t ask you what gender you identify with and no one is monitoring the bathrooms. Any person can say whatever they want and abuse the system and people will always take advantage. Is there going to be more sex violence? You think there won’t? And not just against women but possibly for those who are transgender. Create a separate single use unisex bathroom.

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