Total Spots available (eg 20D 20T 21Q) = (20*2 + 20*3 +21*4) = 184 total spotsPlayers Used = Fixed at 10 players which is the minimum clan size.Participation Factor initially set to 125%

Max Games = RoundDown (184 /10 *1.25) = 23 games in this example. This means that the organizer must set the limit to be 23 games or higher in this example to qualify.

Players:

Be on the winning clan

Have played in a minimum of 3 games.

Forfeits and Penalties

Many wars have come down to only a single game a number of times and really should not be decided by forfeits or penalties. (22% decided by 2 games or less, 33% by 4 games or less, 60% by 8 games or less) The general interpretation is that the games should be remade; however, penalties can be issued by Clan Directors for extreme cases like abandonment etc.

War Thread Behaviour

In order to curb some poor behaviour in the war threads, players will be denied medals if their behaviour is deemed to be disruptive or inappropriate, even if it does not meet the site wide policy for a forum infraction. In the past, we’ve locked war threads due to the behaviour of a single individual, thus inherently punishing both clans. In order to be consistent, this will only be applied by the Clan Dept Head (most often these issues are raised by the CD team).

Examples (including but not limited to)-Dead beating games to gain advantage-Cheating claims and accusations in the war threads (excessive sitting, fog courtesy etc.) There is a site process for C&A, so please follow it.

Fog Courtesy

Fog Courtesy is not a rule and will not be enforced.

However, if you do choose to use this agreement, please use “12H Fog” in the game label so that all players are aware of this request.

Historical Awarding of Clan Achievement Medals (End of 2010)

Over the last 4 years, there have been clan wars of all sizes (3 games to 120 games) and formats. In defining which ones in the past would receive them, we looked at the average war size in each year and overall. The intention was to grant medals at that level, however, there were challenges only a few games less in some years, and a large war in 2010 raised the average. The most fair level was to look at median and there was a distinct cut-off point in all the years.

All wars with a total Final Score of 36 or more points/games were awarded medals. No other criteria will be applied to historical wars, with the exception of farming and proper documentation.Players will have to still meet the above player requirements.

This means approximately 1500 player medals were handed out. There were approximately 5000 games reviewed in the process.

Players of the War/ Top Players Medals

TBD

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Medal for Clan Tournament/Event Organizers

Anybody who organizes and successfully completes a clan tournament or event will be awarded a General Contribution Medal, as long as the tournament/event follows the same guidelines/rules that apply to players to be eligible for a Clan Achievement Medal.

If an organizer is no longer able or willing to continue his/her tournament/event, the person who takes over and successfully completes it will be awarded the medal.

Assistants or co-hosts approved by the Clan Tournament Director will generally also be eligible for the medal.

The CD-Team reserves the right to make exceptions (withhold or approve medals) at their discretion.

With regards to Clan tournaments, I'm not sure how or whether there is a differentiation for medal given for each individual 'stage' in the tournament, or for overall tournament victory?

Also, what are the exact specifications for those considerations? (for first obv D,T,Q; but for third, any lower-limit for variety?)Similarly, will they be used as a tie-break after something like Win Percentage is used, or as a requirement in order to qualify for the running?

You did the right thing by granting medals regardless of whether the match could be considered too lopsided or uncompetitive. After all, medal count is not intended as a real measurement of a clan's skill, merely as panem et circenses for the conquering, medal-crazed masses.

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In order to curb some poor behaviour in the war threads, players will be denied medals if their behaviour is deemed to be disruptive or inappropriate, even if it does not meet the site wide policy for a forum infraction. In the past, we’ve locked war threads due to the behaviour of a single individual, thus inherently punishing both clans. In order to be consistent, this will only be applied by the Clan Dept Head (most often these issues are raised by the CD team).

Examples (including but not limited to)-Dead beating games to gain advantage-Cheating claims and accusations in the war threads (excessive sitting, fog courtesy etc.) There is a site process for C&A, so please follow it.

Can you give us some examples? Who would be denied from the KORT/TOFU war? What about the BpB/THOTA war? Not sure there has been much other drama, except lord voldemort vs somebody in one of their challenges. Are you trying to water down the war threads so it's nothing but "good luck" and Bruceswar's guesses at the final score?

Masli wrote:Fog Courtesy

Fog Courtesy is not a rule and will not be enforced.

However, if you do choose to use this agreement, please use “12H Fog” in the game label so that all players are aware of this request.

What do you mean will not be enforced? You mean not adhering to the fog rule doesn't count as a violation that you would punish for, even if both teams agree to it?

Leehar wrote:With regards to Clan tournaments, I'm not sure how or whether there is a differentiation for medal given for each individual 'stage' in the tournament, or for overall tournament victory?

Also, what are the exact specifications for those considerations? (for first obv D,T,Q; but for third, any lower-limit for variety?)Similarly, will they be used as a tie-break after something like Win Percentage is used, or as a requirement in order to qualify for the running?

What we want to do here is encourage players that are organizing "tournaments" to contact and work with us CDs prior to promising medals, etc. DJ Teflon did this with his new cup and it worked pretty well. We can assist in working out details and making decisions on allowable restrictions, etc.

At this point, there is no set restriction as to what percent of what type of team games must make up the 80%. We want to encourage clans to think up and conduct interesting and innovative wars. Again, if there is a question go to a CD and we can help.

I'm not really clear what the last part of that question means. But what I will say is that we want you to be interactive with CDs. Allowing us to assist you and "blessing" your wars and tournaments (if they are other than standard) will give you the best results and will clear up most confusion about privs, medals, etc. We are here to help.

FarangDemon wrote:You did the right thing by granting medals regardless of whether the match could be considered too lopsided or uncompetitive. After all, medal count is not intended as a real measurement of a clan's skill, merely as panem et circenses for the conquering, medal-crazed masses.

I'm not sure this is an absolute. However, I believe we will be issuing the CC2 medals here very soon. This was a process that was started under jpcloet so it has nothing to do with who is currently in charge. Again, tournament organizers must make sure they keep in contact with CDs (not for micromanagement purposes) and keep an open line of communication.

In order to curb some poor behaviour in the war threads, players will be denied medals if their behaviour is deemed to be disruptive or inappropriate, even if it does not meet the site wide policy for a forum infraction. In the past, we’ve locked war threads due to the behaviour of a single individual, thus inherently punishing both clans. In order to be consistent, this will only be applied by the Clan Dept Head (most often these issues are raised by the CD team).

Examples (including but not limited to)-Dead beating games to gain advantage-Cheating claims and accusations in the war threads (excessive sitting, fog courtesy etc.) There is a site process for C&A, so please follow it.

Can you give us some examples? Who would be denied from the KORT/TOFU war? What about the BpB/THOTA war? Not sure there has been much other drama, except lord voldemort vs somebody in one of their challenges. Are you trying to water down the war threads so it's nothing but "good luck" and Bruceswar's guesses at the final score?

Masli wrote:Fog Courtesy

Fog Courtesy is not a rule and will not be enforced.

However, if you do choose to use this agreement, please use “12H Fog” in the game label so that all players are aware of this request.

What do you mean will not be enforced? You mean not adhering to the fog rule doesn't count as a violation that you would punish for, even if both teams agree to it?

Man, getting used to your new "disguise" is going to be hard to do! No. We are not going to water down war threads. They are fucking wars! However, in prior instances, the CDs had no "decorum" clause and had no real authority to punish offending clans. We don't feel that it is necessary to single out previous wars or conduct. Just keep it in line and you will be fine.

Basically, the fog rule is a gentlemen's agreement. So you can have it in your wars. You can also make rules about it like posting the first move or in extreme situations (where no player posts the first move after being told to) you can remake. But we are not going to enforce a forfeit clause for the violation of this rule.

In order to curb some poor behaviour in the war threads, players will be denied medals if their behaviour is deemed to be disruptive or inappropriate, even if it does not meet the site wide policy for a forum infraction. In the past, we’ve locked war threads due to the behaviour of a single individual, thus inherently punishing both clans. In order to be consistent, this will only be applied by the Clan Dept Head (most often these issues are raised by the CD team).

Examples (including but not limited to)-Dead beating games to gain advantage-Cheating claims and accusations in the war threads (excessive sitting, fog courtesy etc.) There is a site process for C&A, so please follow it.

Can you give us some examples? Who would be denied from the KORT/TOFU war? What about the BpB/THOTA war? Not sure there has been much other drama, except lord voldemort vs somebody in one of their challenges. Are you trying to water down the war threads so it's nothing but "good luck" and Bruceswar's guesses at the final score?

Masli wrote:Fog Courtesy

Fog Courtesy is not a rule and will not be enforced.

However, if you do choose to use this agreement, please use “12H Fog” in the game label so that all players are aware of this request.

What do you mean will not be enforced? You mean not adhering to the fog rule doesn't count as a violation that you would punish for, even if both teams agree to it?

Leehar wrote:With regards to Clan tournaments, I'm not sure how or whether there is a differentiation for medal given for each individual 'stage' in the tournament, or for overall tournament victory?

Also, what are the exact specifications for those considerations? (for first obv D,T,Q; but for third, any lower-limit for variety?)Similarly, will they be used as a tie-break after something like Win Percentage is used, or as a requirement in order to qualify for the running?

I'm not really clear what the last part of that question means. But what I will say is that we want you to be interactive with CDs. Allowing us to assist you and "blessing" your wars and tournaments (if they are other than standard) will give you the best results and will clear up most confusion about privs, medals, etc. We are here to help.

Sorry, the last part of the question was about the 'Top Player' awards and the specifications with regards to them. (the bullet points)

In order to curb some poor behaviour in the war threads, players will be denied medals if their behaviour is deemed to be disruptive or inappropriate, even if it does not meet the site wide policy for a forum infraction. In the past, we’ve locked war threads due to the behaviour of a single individual, thus inherently punishing both clans. In order to be consistent, this will only be applied by the Clan Dept Head (most often these issues are raised by the CD team).

Examples (including but not limited to)-Dead beating games to gain advantage-Cheating claims and accusations in the war threads (excessive sitting, fog courtesy etc.) There is a site process for C&A, so please follow it.

Can you give us some examples? Who would be denied from the KORT/TOFU war? What about the BpB/THOTA war? Not sure there has been much other drama, except lord voldemort vs somebody in one of their challenges. Are you trying to water down the war threads so it's nothing but "good luck" and Bruceswar's guesses at the final score?

Masli wrote:Fog Courtesy

Fog Courtesy is not a rule and will not be enforced.

However, if you do choose to use this agreement, please use “12H Fog” in the game label so that all players are aware of this request.

What do you mean will not be enforced? You mean not adhering to the fog rule doesn't count as a violation that you would punish for, even if both teams agree to it?

Man, getting used to your new "disguise" is going to be hard to do! No. We are not going to water down war threads. They are fucking wars! However, in prior instances, the CDs had no "decorum" clause and had no real authority to punish offending clans. We don't feel that it is necessary to single out previous wars or conduct. Just keep it in line and you will be fine.

Basically, the fog rule is a gentlemen's agreement. So you can have it in your wars. You can also make rules about it like posting the first move or in extreme situations (where no player posts the first move after being told to) you can remake. But we are not going to enforce a forfeit clause for the violation of this rule.

Thanks.

I'm thinking of those three as ones where the decorum clause would have been invoked, so I'm trying to get a feel for what is and isn't allowed, and who would be punished for what. There are clear cases of war threads getting locked, so I'd like to know what you would have done in that case.

FarangDemon wrote:You did the right thing by granting medals regardless of whether the match could be considered too lopsided or uncompetitive. After all, medal count is not intended as a real measurement of a clan's skill, merely as panem et circenses for the conquering, medal-crazed masses.

FarangDemon wrote:You did the right thing by granting medals regardless of whether the match could be considered too lopsided or uncompetitive. After all, medal count is not intended as a real measurement of a clan's skill, merely as panem et circenses for the conquering, medal-crazed masses.

TOFU vs T4C is still counted uncompetitive I am afraid.

You should continue on the conversation with Masli as to the idea you had brought to me about the alternative medal in regards to these.

FarangDemon wrote:You did the right thing by granting medals regardless of whether the match could be considered too lopsided or uncompetitive. After all, medal count is not intended as a real measurement of a clan's skill, merely as panem et circenses for the conquering, medal-crazed masses.

TOFU vs T4C is still counted uncompetitive I am afraid.

You should continue on the conversation with Masli as to the idea you had brought to me about the alternative medal in regards to these.

Actually, there are discussions going on internally about these types of things. My opinion, for those who do not know, is that until we have a clear "uncompetitive" war policy, all wars that qualify should get medals. So those of you who feel this is fair do have someone sticking up for your position. I am however still in favor of a "noncompetitive" war policy based on the ladder. Hopefully soon.

Okay, so I see "Participation Factor initially set to 50%" but I see no mention of what circumstances cause the Participation Factor to change. Does this mean it is always 50%, or is there some other formula I don't know about?