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Re: Celtics Sign Barbosa

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Just in case it wasn’t apparent that creating roster depth was a priority of the Celtics’ offseason, Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports has reported that Boston has agreed to terms with unrestricted free agent Leandro Barbosa on a one-year contract. Considering that the Celtics are well over the salary cap and have already used the mid-level exception on Jason Terry, Barbosa’s deal will be for either the veteran’s minimum or some portion of Boston’s bi-annual exception — and based on the timing of this signing, it seems safe to assume the former.

This is an ideal situation for Barbosa, who frankly doesn’t have the game to warrant 20 minutes a night anymore. Such is an inevitability for speedy guards who fail to evolve; Barbosa leaned heavily on his quickness up until the moment it left him, and in the years since, he has become solely an inefficient jump shooter when asked to create for himself. Yet when put in a position where he can play off of others rather than force his own attempts, Barbosa is still capable of being a mildly useful offensive player.

That makes him a pretty nice get for a fifth guard, if not quite as good as his reputation suggests. Barbosa hardly lives up to his career marks these days, and though he’s been classified as a combo guard since his early days in Phoenix, he struggles in executing even basic half-court offense. Luckily, Barbosa likely won’t be asked to do all that much ball handling in Boston with so many capable guards in the rotation ahead of him, making his weaknesses on that end slightly less glaring.

Doc Rivers can only hope that the same is true of Barbosa’s defensive flaws. Even Kevin Garnett’s presence on the back line may not be enough to prevent Barbosa from turning into a complete defensive liability, as he proved to be with the Pacers in their second-round series against the Miami Heat.

There will be a lot to manage if Barbosa ends up climbing the depth chart due to injuries to other rotation players, but he makes a lot of sense in a minor role with limited minutes.

Re: Celtics Sign Barbosa

So you believe Barbosa waited all that time for a better offer, and that better offer was league minimum to be a teams 5th guard? If you say so. You also said he was holding out for more money because at this point in his career it's all about money, and he got the minimum.

Nothing you said was proven true by this, but I knew it wouldn't stop you from thinking you were.

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so our 1st guard off the bench from last year's playoffs = their 3rd guard off the bench this year. Their best guard is much better than our best guard. And they have Pierce/KG and a bunch of solid role players up front.
I still like us a little better because of our youth, health and size everywhere, but have to admit they are impressive and very deep.

Re: Celtics Sign Barbosa

So you believe Barbosa waited all that time for a better offer, and that better offer was league minimum to be a teams 5th guard? If you say so. You also said he was holding out for more money because at this point in his career it's all about money, and he got the minimum.

Nothing you said was proven true by this, but I knew it wouldn't stop you from thinking you were.

I knew I wasn't going to get an apology from you once again, but that is OK .......

Re: Celtics Sign Barbosa

I knew I wasn't going to get an apology from you once again, but that is OK .......

Of course you knew, this didn't prove you right in any way.

Where were those big overseas offers you believed he had? Why didn't he sign one of those, instead of a league minimum deal where he will barely play, barring injuries? You said he had options and that's why he hadn't signed. What were the other options if this was the best one? For him, this sucks. Great for Boston though.

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so our 1st guard off the bench from last year's playoffs = their 3rd guard off the bench this year. Their best guard is much better than our best guard. And they have Pierce/KG and a bunch of solid role players up front.
I still like us a little better because of our youth, health and size everywhere, but have to admit they are impressive and very deep.

Re: Celtics Sign Barbosa

Where were those big overseas offers you believed he had? Why didn't he sign one of those, instead of a league minimum deal where he will barely play, barring injuries? You said he had options and that's why he hadn't signed. What were the other options if this was the best one? For him, this sucks. Great for Boston though.

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Re: Celtics Sign Barbosa

Boston can afford to take a chance that he might score in bunches because they can play enough defense and are sound enough offensively to make up for him in very limited court time. It proves how strong that the C's still are.

Good for him. I am surprised he is still in the league with how ineffective he was for the Pacers this past season, let alone the playoffs.

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Boston can afford to take a chance that he might score in bunches because they can play enough defense and are sound enough offensively to make up for him in very limited court time. It proves how strong that the C's still are.

Good for him. I am surprised he is still in the league with how ineffective he was for the Pacers this past season, let alone the playoffs.

Not to mention how bad he was in the Olympics, according to "experts" like Hollinger.

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Barbosa was useful during the regular season and a detriment during the playoffs. He is too old to change and I'm glad he's green now. This just shows the Pacers are moving on up and the Celtics are being put out to pasture. I think we beat them this year.

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Haha Wells is on the radio talking about how every team in the NBA saw that Barbosa couldn't take Mike Miller off the dribble in the playoffs except the Celtics. And that's why he didn't get signed until now.

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I think the conclusion he was trying to make was that Barbosa had to wait until the C's cut two summer league rookies before he could make their roster. One would think that if he had other options, including overseas, that he would take those options in a heartbeat. Instead he had to wait it out and it took until 2 weeks prior to the start of the season before he could get onto a roster-- where he will hardly play when fully healthy.