<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Danny O&#39;Brien <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:danny@spesh.com">danny@spesh.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
I may have misheard this, but I think that the research labs of a<br>
prominent software/hardware company were throwing out a bunch of<br>
stuff, including microcontroller programming kits, and assorted zigbee<br>
and wifi goodies, and it got scooped up and given to us. It looks<br>
*really* interesting -- this is the stuff that was on the tables<br>
between sewing and electronics.<br>
<br>
Please remember it&#39;s not excellent to just whisk this stuff off to<br>
your own garages! </blockquote><div><br>Agree strongly<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">If you want to hack on it, hack on it in the space.<br>

</blockquote><div><br>Agree it should be that way, but may be discourage by circumstances (thus encouraging misbehaviour as in squirreling things away) - see below.<br><br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
I&#39;m not sure where we can put it all, but it should maybe go in the<br>
electronics section.<br></blockquote><div><br>This is a general issue in the space. Worse, it depends on the person (inequal opportunity) and the nature of the project. <br><br>Several times I have been told by apparently responsible parties, that it is not safe to leave ongoing projects here. But obviously it is safer for some people than others. <br>
<br>Yes, I have been reminded to label things. But experimenting (with stuff I care about but could lose without heartbreak and/ or wish to share) several times (and repeatedly for the same project) I have had signs torn off, and have even interrupted people initiating destructive actions (perhaps only by unthinkingly &quot;sharing&quot;.<br>
<br>Not to mention some times that when voicing my hacking (not political or personal !) ideas distinctly being put down or blatantly ignored. <br><br>This does not at all mean these things happening all the time. But enough that it is upsetting. Upsetting because I would like to have projects going that take longer than one visit and which feel like significant to myself and the space, and because I have witnessed others having the same problems / issues in this area.<br>
<br>---------<br><br>I feel that what could be useful is a secure mass storage place but with equality of access for responsible individuals (something like a key code similar to the front door). But that may only partially help as some projects / materials are not so easily moved about.<br>
<br>Figure out a fair process for allowing access, IMHO membership is too strong a criterion and guest is too weak.<br> <br>As far as marking things. A consistent label was designed but never produced / printed. A simple scheme that might help is color coded stickers - color change say like green for new stuff, a monthly sticker color for things in progress. This is to help with the problem of abandoned projects which it appears even members have issues with. If a project has been idle for an extended period of time perhaps it should be up for grabs or at least for do-ocratic action, but some system for ensuring respect of previous do-er of said project.<br>
<br>Brian.<br><br>p.s. please don&#39;t flame me if you can restrain yourself.<br><br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">