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Re: Drug Czar admits the drug war is a failure.

Originally Posted by marduc

Funny thing is is that in the 60's before this whole drug war and before our policing agencies started paying so much attention to chasing drug crimes, not only was the murder rate much lower.. but they also solved 90% of them.

Of course. When you are busy fighting victimless crime you have less resources to fight real crime. But by all means let's keep doing what we've been doing even though the government itself admits it's not working. We'll follow Taylor's lead and throw another trillion at it. That should work. Let's ban even more stuff. That will make it work even better.

If there is a murderer in town and you catch him, the murders stop. You have a drug dealer in town and you catch him and a new one takes over (and perhaps in the process adds to the town collection of unsolved murders)

Re: Drug Czar admits the drug war is a failure.

Originally Posted by Jetboogieman

But unfortunately, what is the solution? I mean I'm all for legalzing marijuana, but no hard core drugs, they're such a threat to the population. I mean in some ways I guess you could justify it by saying that people that wanna do it, are gonna do it anyway.

I don't know. there's no way we can legalize hard drugs, and this "war on drugs" is unsustainable.

Let the states handle it.

And I'm not sure what effect you think drug laws are currently having on "hard drugs", because they certainly aren't stopping anyone from using them.

Re: Drug Czar admits the drug war is a failure.

Originally Posted by Taylor

After we cease the war on drugs and legalize the stuff - maybe next we can finally admit that this whole "police force" thing was a mistake as well. Crime has only gotten worse and we've created a big problem in having people dependent on others for their protection. Hell, we've been trying to "fight crime" in this country for 100's of years and it's STILL here? WTF? Stupid Americans never learn the lessons of history!

If you cannot defeat crime, there are only two choices: keep wasting money on a futile civilian police force, or just let people be people.

Freedom baby! FREEDOM!

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Except drug use is not a real "crime". It's just something you find distasteful or immoral.

Re: Drug Czar admits the drug war is a failure.

Originally Posted by Taylor

After we cease the war on drugs and legalize the stuff - maybe next we can finally admit that this whole "police force" thing was a mistake as well. Crime has only gotten worse and we've created a big problem in having people dependent on others for their protection. Hell, we've been trying to "fight crime" in this country for 100's of years and it's STILL here? WTF? Stupid Americans never learn the lessons of history!

If you cannot defeat crime, there are only two choices: keep wasting money on a futile civilian police force, or just let people be people.

Freedom baby! FREEDOM!

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Nobody is saying we should stop fighting crime, just that we should be more reasonable about what we define as crime.

Re: Drug Czar admits the drug war is a failure.

Originally Posted by stekim

Of course. When you are busy fighting victimless crime you have less resources to fight real crime. But by all means let's keep doing what we've been doing even though the government itself admits it's not working. We'll follow Taylor's lead and throw another trillion at it. That should work. Let's ban even more stuff. That will make it work even better.

Hmmm...Seems like this sentiment could be applied to the so called "War on Poverty" as well could it not?

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