Mark probably just looking at Concord to start creating a) leverage & b) sense of urgency by the Oakland Council to get shit done at the current site.

It makes sense for the team to have a backup plan, and Concord isn't as far out in the middle of nowhere as Irwindale was. With BART nearby, the naval station isn't too bad. How far is it from the freeway and Caltrain?

I don't expect a foreigner like you to understand what that means....your just a visitor when you come here not a citizen of the U.S. so you don't understand the value of loyalty to your country or city

Let's examine the logic of these sentences. A tourist in the US won't understand the value of loyalty to their own country or city ... because ... why? Let's say a Spaniard from Madrid comes to the US to visit, and while he's in the US, he can't understand loyalty to Spain or Madrid? If he goes back to Spain, would he regain that understanding? Is it jet lag that makes him not understand?

What I think it means is that Americans supposedly have some special claim to loyalty. Someone who's visiting the US, and who's not an American citizen, can't understand what loyalty means to Americans. But that's ridiculous. This isn't some exclusive feeling that only Americans have. That's nationalistic nonsense. "My loyalty is better than your loyalty. Why? Because I say so. USA! USA!" I'm teaching a class this semester on nationalism ... but this BS isn't on the syllabus.

Can we stick to talking about football here? If someone wants to post about how foreigners can never understand ... whatever it is they think foreigners can't understand ... then I would like to respectfully suggest that they post that somewhere else. There's a ton of sites out there that cater to that topic. I say this knowing full well that I do not control this site, and am only a very thankful friend and fan of Greg and Randy's work.

....Like Pittsburgh Steelers....you think their fan base would stay strong if they moved to L.A.? lol....or how About the NYG or N.E. or any historic franchise that's NEVER moved...do you think those cities wouldn't care cause it's about the team not city? ....I don't expect a foreigner like you to understand what that means....your just a visitor when you come here not a citizen of the U.S. so you don't understand the value of loyalty to your country or city ....fans that watch on TV are not "Die Hard" the ones that go to every game are! And if you did ....you'd know it's more then just about the team....

Firstly, Steelers, Giants, and Patriots are not "nations". Whereas the Raider Nation is truly a worldwide phenomena. The rest of these so-called "nations" are pale facsimiles. Fugazis.

I did not care for the move to L.A the first time, but that's how it played out. I was stoked that they moved back to Oakland where they belong. I hope, despite the utter incompetence of Oakland's city council, that a Oakland solution can be worked out.Sharing a stadium with the Fortywhiners? I'd rather see them move to East Butthump Anywhereland.

From what I gather the only "true fan" is one who lives in Oakland, and can drive across town to the stadium.If that was true, which it is not, then the Raider nation would be no nation at all. It would just like the Giants, Steelers, Pats, etc.

Since I live in a Fore-i-en country, and have only managed to attend one game, therefore I cannot be a "die-hard" fan? Bollocks to you, sir. Pretty easy to trash others because they don't incur the expense of traveling great distances to attend a game, when you have only, in comparison, have only to cross the street.

Due to your Homeland Insecurity rules some of us can no longer enter the Republic, however I see that terrorists, and Mexican gardeners are under no such prohibition.

But that gem of xenophobic ignorance was breathtaking. Somehow only 'Muricuns can possibly understand loyalty to one's country, or city. Having served in my countries armed forces, I should think I have some idea as to what loyalty means. Perhaps when you're old enough, you too can serve your country the same way.

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"I've been here 23 years. I've been here when it was glory hole days and I've been here when it wasn't. And, so, having said that, I want me some glory hole."

this article was funny. mayor quan says she wants a bowling alley and a roller skating rink ... what? maybe she also wants a drive-in movie theater, a malt shop, a record store ... there's a reason no one is building those places anymore.

but best of all was her comment that the deep-pocketed investors will pay for her to build whatever she wants. she has that backwards. they invest so they can build what THEY want, not what you want. and that ain't gonna be a fucking bowling alley or a roller skating rink.

I was really impressed with the noise coming from the O.Co yesterday!!! Oakland definitely deserves a stadium for it's passioante fan base. Do I think that shits gonna get done? (not that confident on account of the public money needed)

But even with the tarps on Mt Davis, it was really fucking loud..Seattle has nothing on us when it comes to cheering for our team.

The fans are doing great for the raiders staying in Oakland, the petition getting signed &By the looks the tickets sales are looking good (judging by availability on icketmaster etc)

It's the Oakland council & the raiders org pussyfooting around. Raiders need to hire someone like a Amy Trask who's sole focus is on this stadium. I don't believe Mark Davis has the business savvy to connect the dots and get shovels breaking on our new digs.

The OAKLAND council is the biggest joke. 12 months ago it was all about the coliseum city when they knew full well 2 out of 3 tenants planned on moving. They should've focused on the 56k stadium years ago and not wasted all these dollars with the pipe dream which is Coliseum Ciry

Me: On this segment of The Admin Oakland Raiders series: This week we are sitting down with Oakland Raiders Superfan Dr. Death. To get to know his thoughts on not only the Oakland Raiders, but how can we keep the Raiders in Oakland.Thank you Dr. Death for this interview! You, and I have these pages along with Save Oakland Sports, and a few others to try making the Raiders stay in Oakland not even a question. And the most important question I have to ask you is what else we can do to keep the Raiders in Oakland?

Dr.Death: First and for most thank you very much for asking for this interview, very much appreciated. First I humbly ask every one to sign my petition to keep the Raiders in Oakland at change.org/saveoakland. Once I get 56k signatures I am going to print out all the signatures and give it to Mark Davis and Mayor Quan all the signatures. The petition is a symbolic gesture that the city of Oakland has us as fans and as a community support the Raiders in Oakland. Other things you can do GO TO GAMES. GO TO GAMES period win or lose. FILL THE SEATS. Also if you are in the bay area PLEASE if you have time and the energy get involved with Save Oakland Sports and be part of the solution, how can you help? You may be of HUGE help and you don’t even know it.

Me: Not trying to be a preacher but that's what I been trying to explain to folks out there that got the spirit but, need to walk the talk. I like the www.blogtalkradio.com/drdeath26 radio show you do, and this past week it had some interesting topics. One of the highlights of the show was the interview with Rick Tripp. He mentioned how he wants to invest all this money to build a new stadium in Oakland. Do you care to speak on that? And do you feel it's more of a political issue than money issue right now involving the Raiders staying in Oakland? Also, one your callers mentioned "what's in it for him?"

Dr.Death: Well first I’d like to thank you for listening to my radio show, I appreciate all my supporters. Through this process of working and doing anything I possibly can to keep the Raiders in Oakland I’ve been lucky to befriend key people such as architects like Lamphier and Gregory(Who are going to be on my show in a few weeks) and Rick Tripp. The common thing most key figures like L&G and Tripp have, is they are both genuine individuals who want to get this thing done, period. I consider my self a good judge of character and I have full confidence and take their word at face value.Like I just mentioned through this saving Oakland process I have delved into “the behind the scenes” stuff if you will and I find more things here and there and recently I have come to a firm conclusion. This stadium ordeal has little to nothing to do with money, I strongly believe that. It is all completely political and trying to take a stronger role in Save Oakland sports and being a “Do-er” I have come across politics. Keep in mind I try my best to stay out of it I want almost nothing to do with Oakland politics, all I want is to keep my teams in Oakland, but no matter where ago, turn I take, its always political, that’s just the fact of the matter we all have to embrace.What’s in it for Mr.Tripp? In my opinion it’s a couple of things. 1. This is a business so one thing I think is money of course 2. Credibility. If he can get this done Oakland then he can get it done any where else such as a San Diego new stadium or when it comes to building new soccer stadiums in new cities who are welcoming of other sports, this can potentially put him on the map. Do I know exact details how Tripp is going to get it done? No and honestly I don’t care to know until it is all unveiled publicly.

Me: I have to agree on that! And he does have a genuine demeanor from what I've heard on the last show "Till Death Do Us Part!" Which is a perfect name by the way for that segment. I liked how you mentioned in the bay area that it could be potential sponsors of a new stadium. I was like, "FINALLY SOMEBODY THINKING LIKE ME!!!!" We have so many corporations/possible investors that can help pitch in money to help get this going to where season ticket holders like us don't have to pay SBL fees. What main companies do you think we should reach out to?

Dr.Death: Like I mentioned before I have taken initiative to become more involved with Save Oakland Sports and be part of the solution. As of right now SOS is in the middle of reaching out to the fortune 500 companies such as the Chevron’s, the Google’s, the Apple computer’s, the list goes on and on and on. This part of the game plan in my opinion takes a lot of team work on all levels, such as Save Oakland Sports, The city and Mayor Quan, to the Oakland Raiders. Save Oakland Sports is holding a Business Summit meeting inviting all businesses from mom and pop to big corporations Like Clorox and the other mentioned companies to attend this summit meeting in hopes to potentially invest in the City of Oakland and the Raiders. I can say this right now, Currently as we speak my self and a handful of loyal passionate Raider fans who come from different professional back grounds and areas of expertise are devoting our time to make this Business Summit meeting work.

Me: I can feel that! However. as an Oakland Raider fan we get left out in the dark unless we attend meetings along with Save Oakland Sports. And since I work full time I have to at least be a source online for my team based on info provided from either you, or Save Oakland Sports. What are you hearing and seeing at the meetings and the visits to City Hall?

Dr.Death: Well I totally feel where you come from working full time, any fans who want to go can’t because they have families to support and take care of. Right now i'm lucky i'm single and working in a restaurant my schedule is flexible. But by being able to go to these meetings like I said before in my previous answer, its just straight political. Certain people, such as politician or people who have clout carry their own agenda. However there are some key figures who are genuine. In my honest opinion I think things will get done. The reason why? There are people who are working tirelessly behind the scenes, some I keep in contact with on a professional level to see how can I help. I see people who could have easily given up on this process 2 years ago but are still trying their best to find solutions.

Me: Right...You mentioned also on your radio show how your co-host Brian created a petition to move the Raiders back to L.A. and I can understand how you were upset about that. I also understand how you couldn't just shut him out as a friend due to disagreeing about a football teams movement. But what was his reason behind the whole rival page creation? And did he apologize or give any valid reason for that?

Dr. Death: Out side of my radio show I maintain a good relationships with my co hosts and I confide in them about many things even not football but about life in general. Brian and I did talk and he made clear points which made complete sense. He wanted to see how much support LA would actually get by starting a petition. Its easy to say “move to LA” but would it actually work, would people be accepting of the Raiders. Its an honest question that has to be asked, would people even be accepting of the Raiders in Oakland? My petition is approaching 9 thousand his and a few others haven’t even sniffed 200 I think. Brian is a very smart guy, he has reasons for everything, which is why I like having him as a co host.

Me: That's respectable..And you said SNIFFING 200 signatures huh, lmfao!! Which brings me to the video I loved watching about you, and your dad via ustream. "Why the Raiders will not move back to L.A." He was right! Us Raiders around that time never bought any Raider gear that had L.A. on it if we were from Oakland. And I can see that being a big reason why they won't leave Oakland. There is too much finances that will be lost from sports apparel. Nobody will buy a Louisville Woodson jersey, a Streater Alabama jersey, or Mcfadden L.A. jersey. How is that man cave coming along? Did he finish it up yet?

Dr. Death: In all honestly I don’t think our Raider man cave will ever be finished lol. We still have so much in boxes we haven’t even put up yet, we are always being given paraphernalia and buying things, it’s like its never ending.

Me:That's fucking great in my opinion! I myself can never get tired of raider memorabelia. Now for those that don't know former Oakland Raider Skip Thomas was the original Dr. Death. Did your dad show you videos to where you decided to carry on the great name of him so it will never be forgotten?

Dr. Death: I actually took it upon my self to watch videos of the soul patrol and Skip Thomas in action.I love those videos gives me goose bumps.

Me:That's dope! I don't know how much I myself watch those videos. Pure Epic History! Alright, before we end this interview I want to know who is your line up for offense, and defense as if you are Dennis Allen"At the End of the Day" Lol?!?

Dr. Death: Oh boy this is off the top of my head LT Watson LG Bergstrom C wiz RG-Brisiel, RT-Barron(for now)Qb-Pryor, Flynn, and McgloinRB-Mcfadden, and MurrayWR-Streater, Brice B, Moore, Ford, and CrinerTe-( not too keen on them) Ausbury, and Rivera (but not solid picks)Of course my boy REECE!!!DLINE-Houston, Hunter, Walker, Simms Lbers-Sio, Roach, Burnett, Maiava( i'm missing someone its 2 am just got off work not thinking right lol)Dbs-Hayden, Jenkins, Porter, Adams (TaiwanSafety-C-wood, Branch, and I like whats his face #36 used to play for niners name is slippin my mind right now he has been all over the field.P-King

Me: Dope picks to me for starters! Unfortunately, Smith and Bergstrom are gone but ya never know..they could be returning back. Anyway, thank you Dr. Death for this interview and I will see you at HOME/Oakland Coliseum in the Black Hole..But, my final question..What is your favorite Al Davis quote out of the many?

Dr Death: Hah oh man, if you listen to any of my speeches or interviews I do in the media tend to sometime subtly quote Coach Davis, and I think I’ve quoted some of his sayings quite a bit. But one that I tend to live by and has exemplified what I do through this whole stadium process is “ I don’t take whats given to me I take what I want.”Just win baby!

Oakland Raiders Super Fan Dr. Death and his father recorded a discussion last night on Ustream about where our team belongs. Without putting down L.A. fans his father explained why he feels the Raiders will never again be the L. A. Raiders.

Living outside of the bay area or can't afford to attend games do not make you any less of a die hard raider. The ones I laugh at that claim they are die hard are the ones that don't attend a single game, live near the coliseum, and can afford it. Funny how they have nerve to be pissed off if the game isn't on t.v. (those are the ones I call couch fans)!!!

I think that's hella cool how we got fans all over in other countries and states and that's why we are the Raider Nation more like Universe really. However, bottom line they were created as The Oakland Raiders so they should remain that way.

Man, you and Mike have this out every year, usually around this time when there's no actual news goin on!

One question on the exposure - don't you get Gamepass? Then you can watch every Raider game......

I know it's my only option cos the Raiders are never on tv here.

Unfortunately Colin, the Internet in my country is really slow. I have had gamepass & the quality of image is only slightly better then watching a free stream. Broadband fibre optic is not expected to my house for another 8 years. Watching games on TV is my preferred option.

The raiders are barely ever on TV in Australia. A move to Los Angeles makes them one of those attractive teams such as the Cowboys where it doesn't matter how good their record is that they'll still be due 4 or 5 national primetime TV slot teams.

Ahh man, that sucks. Gamepass is my lifeline away from a steady diet of the usual suspects.

Same deal here - they are pretty much only on when they have to be - MNF, TNF, late sunday games or thanksgiving.

Man, you and Mike have this out every year, usually around this time when there's no actual news goin on!

One question on the exposure - don't you get Gamepass? Then you can watch every Raider game......

I know it's my only option cos the Raiders are never on tv here.

Unfortunately Colin, the Internet in my country is really slow. I have had gamepass & the quality of image is only slightly better then watching a free stream. Broadband fibre optic is not expected to my house for another 8 years. Watching games on TV is my preferred option.

The raiders are barely ever on TV in Australia. A move to Los Angeles makes them one of those attractive teams such as the Cowboys where it doesn't matter how good their record is that they'll still be due 4 or 5 national primetime TV slot teams.

Raider Mike I honestly appreciate the time you have taken to reply to my post but I've got nothing really more else to say to you. I am entitled to my opinions (which at the moment that's all it is) I'm allowed to make observations about the writing on the wall. I love how you're a hardcore fan but unfortunately many others in Oakland are not (hence the reason for the tarps)

If you want to belittle me on the video cast because I have a vision for what I think is best for this team, then go right ahead mate! I will stand by my words. We are the Raider Nation & not the Oakland Nation!!! Majority of the fanbase willStiill support this team wherever they may play.

Not the "die hard" argument again! Can't we all just be Raider fans (Raider Nation anyone?).

Does being thousands of miles away and taking a day's vacation / getting up at 0200 to watch the Raiders on MNF make me less of a fan than someone who lives a few miles from the stadium going to the game?

I'll bet everyone here does what they can within their own circumstances (finances / location / free time).

Oscar you've been begging the Raiders to move to L.A. Since I've known you!...just so your flight pattern will be easier....to me that's treason!

Actually, It's got nothing to do with my flight pattern to attend games. (although it is a shorter route)

I want the Raiders in Los Angeles because SoCAL helps with free agency, It helps with our National Exposure (which in affect helps us International fans get to see more games)

I'm a Raider fan wherever they play. hell the Raiders could move to Candlestick and change their name to the San Francisco Raiders & Imma still support that Silver & Black shield because I'm about the team & not the city.

Man, you and Mike have this out every year, usually around this time when there's no actual news goin on!

One question on the exposure - don't you get Gamepass? Then you can watch every Raider game......

I got only one thing else to say about this and that's about the T.V. exposure. It shouldn't matter about T.V. exposure if you are a real raider fan and capable of going to the game. So you have a choice of proving you are a raider fan by showing up for games and supporting your team. OR being considered a COUCH FAN vegetating in your Mam' Cave during home games.

I really wish everybody realized if all tickets were being sold we wouldn't be tarping mount davis, talking about a new stadium, questioning if they are leaving again, or even having this conversation.

I want the Raiders in Los Angeles because SoCAL helps with free agency, It helps with our National Exposure (which in affect helps us International fans get to see more games)

Ok so all you care about is basically so you can watch games on TV more? You sound pathetic! .....You think because L.A. Is a huge TV market and great place to live ...the city existing itself will do Reggie's job for him? Hahahaha what a joke!.... If that theory was accurate ....how come the NYJ, MIA, S.D., PHI, JAX, and many more BIG cites that have desirable places to get "National Exposure" have resulted in ZERO Super Bowls? Hahaha that shit is fucking funny dude! ....no city will make a team a champion on it's own....I thought you'd know that watching football so long!....your just begging period!

I'm a Raider fan wherever they play. hell the Raiders could move to Candlestick and change their name to the San Francisco Raiders & Imma still support that Silver & Black shield because I'm about the team & not the city.

(Clapping sound)....that's good buddy!.... I am about the City and Team....they've been in Oakland for the majority of their existence and that's where they belong....I'll be a fan till I die .....but I want be "Die Hard" anymore if they leave!... Meaning no more going to games no more buying gear ....but I will always love them till I die! ... see to me being a REAL die hard fan is going to every game..... I've only missed 6 since 1995 something you'll never do in your life will be able to match! Your not even in the same league as me in "Die Hard' status.... I've known you since 2008 (5 YEARS!) and you've been saying "they'll move they'll move"...well why are they still there? LOL...I've heard L.A. Fans say that shit since they move in 1995 (18 YEARS AGO) that's 5 years longer then they were in L.A.....if was going to happen it would have....I remember when Al did that piece with Ice Cube and said "We'll listen" and you nutted your pants....but nothing happened...haha ...then just months ago this year they were as close as they ever were in bringing any team into L.A. and it failed....why?....FUNDING!.... So stop with you wet dream and tell me facts how will they get 1.8 Billion without a ownership change? Or how are they gonna get support from Goddell and Owners when they hate us? You keep dreaming...and if your so confident ....lets bet money that the Raiders stay....every one is a big man until the bet comes out....so lets make a bet big man....that they won't go anywhere!.... Let me know.... NFL teams represent their cities and have pride doing so....why do think logos and names of teams match the region? Like Pittsburgh Steelers....you think their fan base would stay strong if they moved to L.A.? lol....or how About the NYG or N.E. or any historic franchise that's NEVER moved...do you think those cities wouldn't care cause it's about the team not city? ....I don't expect a foreigner like you to understand what that means....your just a visitor when you come here not a citizen of the U.S. so you don't understand the value of loyalty to your country or city ....fans that watch on TV are not "Die Hard" the ones that go to every game are! And if you did ....you'd know it's more then just about the team....you sound lame to support this team to sell out and become the L.A. Traitors again!

The Grandstanding & stalling on the stadium issue is a reason why I think the decision has mentally been made by Mark.

Obviously the front office is not gonna announce anything about a move to L.A.

REALLY? This is the 21st Century where an American X-NSA agent leaks info about U.S. Top secret information to to world .....yet they can conceal under the radar a deal to move a sports team to L.A.? Hahahaha you're funny Aussie!

then Mark Davis is gotta work out the shit with Farmers Field or Dodgers Stadium & then he is gotta count on his dominos falling into place with the owners votes.

ok it is just going to work itself out? You know how lame and reaching for the sky that sounds in the real business world? You make it sound like Mark Davis has 1.8 BILLON dollars in the bank to build a stadium.... Didn't you pay attention to the facts I laid out for you? L.A. ON THEIR OWN! Couldn't get funding ....what does that fact not register with you? No money no team! ....Plus the NFL owners just willingly are going across the board vote Yes to give permission to move? Hahaha after the what happened last time? Your a funny man! ....why would the league help the most hated franchise in the NFL? Your high on crack!

If the Raiders were committed to Oakland, you'd think they'd have a stadium lease renewal already organized for 2014 and beyond (at least until this pipe dream of a project Coliseum City is shovel ready with ground broken).. Does the lease expiring after this season with nothing organized at the O.Co scare any of you NoCAL fans???

No it doesn't because I visited the new stadium being built in Santa Clara and I know they have a clause in their lease to share it with another team that is on public record I can prove unlike your theories ....and as I said in my earlier post ...Mark Davis is going to see if the city of Oakland will come thru first before He takes the Santa Clara route... Plus ultimately this isn't Marks team it's his Mothers .....last time I checked she doesn't want the team to go nowhere! .....scare us fans? You sound like an outsider when you say blasphemes like that....I'm gonna tell everyone at the tailgate and get you on camera this year in front of everybody and tell them you don't want them to stay in Oakland .....See how they feel about your loyalty to a city after that....lol ...I was going to do it last year but I spared you the embarrassment ....not this year!

Oscar you've been begging the Raiders to move to L.A. Since I've known you!...just so your flight pattern will be easier....to me that's treason!

Actually, It's got nothing to do with my flight pattern to attend games. (although it is a shorter route)

I want the Raiders in Los Angeles because SoCAL helps with free agency, It helps with our National Exposure (which in affect helps us International fans get to see more games)

I'm a Raider fan wherever they play. hell the Raiders could move to Candlestick and change their name to the San Francisco Raiders & Imma still support that Silver & Black shield because I'm about the team & not the city.

The Grandstanding & stalling on the stadium issue is a reason why I think the decision has mentally been made by Mark.

Obviously the front office is not gonna announce anything about a move to Los Angeles until they've sold their season ticket packages for the 2013 season (no need to alienate the fan base). & then Mark Davis is gotta work out the shit with Farmers Field or Dodgers Stadium & then he is gotta count on his dominos falling into place with the owners votes.

It's a 3 horse race between Raiders, Chargers & Rams for SoCAL & none of these franchises are going to announce plans until after this season as all 3 franchises have major issues with attendance.

If the Raiders were committed to Oakland, you'd think they'd have a stadium lease renewal already organized for 2014 and beyond (at least until this pipe dream of a project Coliseum City is shovel ready with ground broken).. Does the lease expiring after this season with nothing organized at the O.Co scare any of you NoCAL fans???

Right On Raider Mike!!! You beat me to the response about L. A. thinking they are going to get our boys again. @ RaiderWildeStyle I'm glad you are a raider fan still after they left L.A. but they had to click their cleats because it's no place like home. L.A. is a nice "vacation spot" I'll give you that. lol! One thing I gotta say is they better do more than just bumping gums and start printing out agreements. No players shouldn't have to wonder where they are going to play next and fans shouldn't have to worry about if they need to save more money to fly out of town. Heck I rather pay sbl fee's really more than plane tickets.

@Tokai Raider I filled out that survey months ago too and personally I don't like those fees. But if that is what it takes and no other option I'll likely will pay the SBL fee. However, I think an alternative should be what this article is saying. http://justblogbaby.com/2013/06/23/new-stadium-for-oakland-raiders/ Many of us want the Oakland Raiders stay in or as close to Oakland as possible. So whether each fan go to games or couch their way in at home we should consider raising funds.

As the days tick by I do not have a lot of faith in a stadium being built in Oakland.

This is the 2nd survey in many years about the Raiders feedback seeking for a stadium at the current site.

Mayor Quan (or should i say the City of Oakland) has had years to come up with the goods and she wants to build a complex where 2 of the 3 current tennants (A's & Warriors) are lightyears away from re-committing to this current site.

Unfortunately 510'ers this team is looking like it's headed to SoCAL (IMO) 1st the tarps & more recently Amy Trask resigning (i think she may have inside info on 2014 & beyond n decided to leave based on the fact she was the teams biggest advocate of building a stadium in OAK.. Mark Davis too me says it's Oakland priority no.1 but he is open to other locations if the Oak council doesn't come to the party)

Oscar you've been begging the Raiders to move to L.A. Since I've known you!...just so your flight pattern will be easier....too Me that's treason!...but aside my opinion on your stance....please tell Me how L.A. Will land ANY team there? Haven't you followed the news? They had a plan approve in the City of L.A. And had it all lined up but they can't fund it! And the deadline came and gone!...this is the very reason why Al moved back to Oakland in the first place....they couldn't pay to build a stadium!....so knowing that fact....how are they gonna get financed and build a stadium in less then a year? Cause that's when Oakland's lease runs out at the end of this year! So your saying the Raiders will be playing in a brand new stadium by the start of 2014? Really? They can't afford to build one right now with the L.A. City council behind them! ....the Raiders aren't going to live in limbo with no lease no direction by the end of this year....only way they could move anytime soon is if....L.A. Gets a deal done to finance a stadium before Febuary of 2014 and make a temporary agreement to have a temp stadium for them to play in while the new one gets built! ...but it doesn't stop there....the Owners of the NFL must all vote in favor of allowing the Raiders to move to that TV market territory and that ain't happening under Goddell who's on record that He wants a expansion team there not another team from another market...don't believe me? Just look at the Sacramento Kings! Everyone you and Greg said they'd move...what happened? Dave Stern wouldn't allow it and neither did the owners of the NBA .....the Maloofs WANTED to move THEIR team to Seatlle and their ass got shut down by the league ...they DID have financing and a better offer then Sacramento but Sacramento still won!....this is what will happen if the Raiders try moving again....Al sued the NFL over this very thing...that's why the NFL tacks on 3-4 phantom penalties a game!....So if you think they'll be encouraged to grant permission of that TV market in L.A. That easy your high on crack!....only realistic way it could happen is if Mark Davis sell the controlling interest to a group in L.A. Just like the Maloofs did to the group that owns them now....don't think for a second that Mark will!....the window is closed IMO ....but the Raiders have bad luck so anything can happen but I bet money they stay....they are highly likely to share the Niners stadium which WILL be ready at the beginning of the 2014 season and that meets the time frame of Oakland's lease running out!...I think that's what Mark is talking about.... We'll see...but stop the begging makes you sound like a traitor IMO ...don't claim to love Oakland and the fans like Me that go there ....then say you want them to move like you have in the past!... Disgusting and rude!

@Tokai Raider I filled out that survey months ago too and personally I don't like those fees. But if that is what it takes and no other option I'll likely will pay the SBL fee. However, I think an alternative should be what this article is saying. http://justblogbaby.com/2013/06/23/new-stadium-for-oakland-raiders/ Many of us want the Oakland Raiders stay in or as close to Oakland as possible. So whether each fan go to games or couch their way in at home we should consider raising funds.

As the days tick by I do not have a lot of faith in a stadium being built in Oakland.

This is the 2nd survey in many years about the Raiders feedback seeking for a stadium at the current site.

Mayor Quan (or should i say the City of Oakland) has had years to come up with the goods and she wants to build a complex where 2 of the 3 current tennants (A's & Warriors) are lightyears away from re-committing to this current site.

Unfortunately 510'ers this team is looking like it's headed to SoCAL (IMO) 1st the tarps & more recently Amy Trask resigning (i think she may have inside info on 2014 & beyond n decided to leave based on the fact she was the teams biggest advocate of building a stadium in OAK.. Mark Davis too me says it's Oakland priority no.1 but he is open to other locations if the Oak council doesn't come to the party)

Oscar you've been begging the Raiders to move to L.A. Since I've known you!...just so your flight pattern will be easier....to me that's treason!...but aside my opinion on your stance....please tell me how L.A. will land ANY team there? Haven't you followed the news? They had a plan approved in the City of L.A. and had it all lined up but they can't fund it! And the deadline came and gone!...this is the very reason why Al moved back to Oakland in the first place....they couldn't pay to build a stadium!....so knowing that fact....how are they gonna get financed and build a stadium in less then a year? Cause that's when Oakland's lease runs out at the end of this year! So you're saying the Raiders will be playing in a brand new stadium by the start of 2014? Really? They can't afford to build one right now with the L.A. City council behind them! ....the Raiders aren't going to live in limbo with no lease no direction by the end of this year....only way they could move anytime soon is if....L.A. gets a deal done to finance a stadium before February of 2014 and make a temporary agreement to have a temp stadium for them to play in while the new one gets built! ...but it doesn't stop there....the Owners of the NFL must all vote in favor of allowing the Raiders to move to that TV market territory and that ain't happening under Goodell, who's on record that he wants an expansion team there, not a team from another market...don't believe me? Just look at the Sacramento Kings! Everyone, you and Greg said they'd move...what happened? Dave Stern wouldn't allow it and neither did the owners of the NBA .....the Maloofs WANTED to move THEIR team to Seattle and their ass got shut down by the league ...they DID have financing and a better offer then Sacramento but Sacramento still won!....this is what will happen if the Raiders try moving again....Al sued the NFL over this very thing...that's why the NFL tacks on 3-4 phantom penalties a game!....So if you think they'll be encouraged to grant permission of that TV market in L.A. that easy you're high on crack!....Only realistic way it could happen is if Mark Davis sells the controlling interest to a group in L.A. Just like the Maloofs did to the group that owns them now....don't think for a second that Mark will!....the window is closed IMO ....but the Raiders have bad luck so anything can happen but I bet money they stay....they are highly likely to share the Niners stadium which WILL be ready at the beginning of the 2014 season and that meets the time frame of Oakland's lease running out!...I think that's what Mark is talking about.... We'll see...but stop the begging. Makes you sound like a traitor IMO ...don't claim to love Oakland and the fans like me that go there ....then say you want them to move like you have in the past!... Disgusting and rude!

@Tokai Raider I filled out that survey months ago too and personally I don't like those fees. But if that is what it takes and no other option I'll likely will pay the SBL fee. However, I think an alternative should be what this article is saying. http://justblogbaby.com/2013/06/23/new-stadium-for-oakland-raiders/ Many of us want the Oakland Raiders stay in or as close to Oakland as possible. So whether each fan go to games or couch their way in at home we should consider raising funds.

As the days tick by I do not have a lot of faith in a stadium being built in Oakland.

This is the 2nd survey in many years about the Raiders feedback seeking for a stadium at the current site.

Mayor Quan (or should i say the City of Oakland) has had years to come up with the goods and she wants to build a complex where 2 of the 3 current tennants (A's & Warriors) are lightyears away from re-committing to this current site.

Unfortunately 510'ers this team is looking like it's headed to SoCAL (IMO) 1st the tarps & more recently Amy Trask resigning (i think she may have inside info on 2014 & beyond n decided to leave based on the fact she was the teams biggest advocate of building a stadium in OAK.. Mark Davis too me says it's Oakland priority no.1 but he is open to other locations if the Oak council doesn't come to the party)

@Tokai Raider I filled out that survey months ago too and personally I don't like those fees. But if that is what it takes and no other option I'll likely will pay the SBL fee. However, I think an alternative should be what this article is saying. http://justblogbaby.com/2013/06/23/new-stadium-for-oakland-raiders/ Many of us want the Oakland Raiders stay in or as close to Oakland as possible. So whether each fan go to games or couch their way in at home we should consider raising funds.

I just filled out an online survey from the Raiders about their stadium plans. Lots of questions about "stadium builder licenses" or SBLs--the new word for PSLs. PSL holders would supposedly get a credit for the money they paid, to be applied towards an SBL. they compared costs of SBLs with stadiums in Carolina, Chicago, and SF, and asked how much I'd pay to sit in different sections, with different ticket and SBL amounts.

So it looks like some kind of 'seat license' will be happening, although survey respondents will likely tell them that they want to pay little or nothing for these things.

Yeah with the 49'ers being such a hot ticket in town now, it's best that the raiders get as many games of theirs on tv as possible.

Still the tarps can't come off anytime during the season. Not that I have a lot of faith in Dennis Allen but if he somehow crapshoots his way to a playoff birth then our capacity must remain 53,000.

I think the Atmosphere will be better with a packed house closer to the field, but we will continue to be the laughing stock of the league as I've read some comments from Jaguars fans on profootballtalk.com saying the raiders are the new lame team. & honestly how can we justify a new stadium in Oakland when we tryna reduce capacity? IF they build Coliseum City then you can say goodbye to your $25 tickets and it will be a higher prices with a more upmarket clientel putting tickets out of range to the vocal blue collar fan.

I don't think we need a new stadium. But the Raiders are just so hell bent on trying to be the 49'ers it's not funny.

Not a bad idea. I like the idea of condensing the crowd closer to the field. I'm sure it would be possible to remove the tarp when we reach the post-season (hopefully in the near future). The seats on Mt. Davis were alright, but they definitely weren't worth the cash I dropped.

Love the show guys, thanks for keeping me in the loop out here in Utah!

Not a good look for the raiders quest to build a new stadium when they have to downsize their attendance levels. I guess they want their product on tv and were sick and tired of offering these 2 for 1 packages.

I think tarping off the seats is a good move. That Mt. Davis section was a monstrosity from the moment they added it in '95. They've rarely been able to fill it. Originally the cheapest seats up there were $59 I believe, and people didn't want to pay that much to sit way up there where you were so removed from the action. They tried lowering the prices up there to $25, and that helped. It got us a completely sold out season in 2011, but they needed extra perks to do it, like 2 for 1 specials, half-season ticket packages, quarter season ticket packages, etc.

Then last year when the NFL changed the blackout rules, the Raiders opted for the 85% option. This allowed them to call it a sellout whenever they filled 85% of the seats. This got them TV coverage for all but one game last year, but that came with a cost. When teams utilize the 85% rule, they must give the visiting team a higher share of the pie.

NFL teams currently pay the visiting team 34 cents on the dollar for every ticket sold to each home game. So, for example, when the Raiders set their minimum at 85% in 2012, and they sold 100% of their tickets, they had to pay the visiting team 50 cents on the dollar (instead of 34 cents) for the additional 15% sold.

It is not allowable to use the 85% option on some games and 100% on others. If you choose 85% it must be for every game of the year.

So for the 2013 season, the Raiders will NOT use the 85% option, they will go with 100%. If they fill up all of the 53,200 seats (the new capacity with the tarps up), they will pay the visiting teams 34% of the revenue (the lowest percentage possible).

They are losing about 16% of their seats, but I think it will result in a better atmosphere. Everyone will be closer to the action, and I'll bet it will be louder than before. I think that when people are way up so far from the field, they don't make as much noise. Even if they do, the sound is lost because that Mt. Davis section is above the rest of the stadium. With everyone no higher than the top of the walls of the 3rd deck, all the sound will be directed down to the field and less will escape. We should get that place ROCKING! Just like the good old days, when I first got my season tickets in 1980, when I watched Dan Pastorini break his leg the 5th game of the season and Jim Plunkett took over and guided the Raiders to a 9-2 record the remainder of the season, and a victory over the Eagles in Superbowl XV.

Not a good look for the raiders quest to build a new stadium when they have to downsize their attendance levels. I guess they want their product on tv and were sick and tired of offering these 2 for 1 packages.

Yeah, they must REALLY want to have sellouts, because Greg said his season ticket price has been cut way down....even though he's an established season ticket holder. According to Greg, they reduced the price of all 3rd deck seats to $25. Greg was paying $89 two years ago, and last year they reduced it to about $75.....and now $25?

Naturally my club seats are staying firm at $151 each.....as always!

Oh....wait a minute! I just checked and my seats have been reduced too! From $151 a seat down to $150!WHOOOPIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Not a good look for the raiders quest to build a new stadium when they have to downsize their attendance levels. I guess they want their product on tv and were sick and tired of offering these 2 for 1 packages.

Oh yeah....its gonna happen under Mark Davis's watch...its a business...how can you not be in the L.A. market with a bunch of Raiders fans from L.A. to Indio to Riverside, and even San Diego!...and lets not forget the Raiders Arizona fan base...its jus a matter of time...

Whether its L.A or Oakland. I'd love to see the raiders sell 7 game season packages for the town they are based in & then 1 game a year they play in the alternative city (Santa Clara stadium or Farmers Field)

If the Bills can play a game in Toronto once a year. Why not the raiders in SoCal?

A full season ticket is 10 games. Can't get it without the two preseason games. They do have a "half-season package" though, which is 5 games. Best of all, they are all regular season games. Plus you get "priority access" to single game tickets, so someone could always get a couple more games if they wanted. But then you'd be on your own for the away games. But that's the way it is for all the teams.

Oh yeah....its gonna happen under Mark Davis's watch...its a business...how can you not be in the L.A. market with a bunch of Raiders fans from L.A. to Indio to Riverside, and even San Diego!...and lets not forget the Raiders Arizona fan base...its jus a matter of time...

Whether its L.A or Oakland. I'd love to see the raiders sell 7 game season packages for the town they are based in & then 1 game a year they play in the alternative city (Santa Clara stadium or Farmers Field)

If the Bills can play a game in Toronto once a year. Why not the raiders in SoCal?

Oh yeah....its gonna happen under Mark Davis's watch...its a business...how can you not be in the L.A. market with a bunch of Raiders fans from L.A. to Indio to Riverside, and even San Diego!...and lets not forget the Raiders Arizona fan base...its jus a matter of time...

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I apologize to greg and randy....i think i have aramark confused with aeg.... I will say one thing though....unless you are staying at a hotel like the airport hilton and paying 160 plus per night you are probably staying in a motel near the Coliseum which is near the "fringes" of the "HOOD".One dude held up the people working the local fast food drive thru,i have heard of mugings,people shot and some killed,street people begging for change/panhandlers,dudes looking in trash cans,car vandalism/theft,prostitution,drug deals...this was told to me by a lady who worked the front desk of the motel i was staying at.All types of crimes occur in the areas around the Coliseum.That plus a sizeable amount of homeless people living under the hegenberger bridge next to the coliseum-esp at night.I learned from experience that if you are staying in one of these motels NOT to go out at night-get your food/drinks during the daytime.... If you were a investor why would you want to invest in a stadium project in this area?The risks/insurance would be too great-imho....

When i was flying in for the Steelers game(from Las vegas) two men were sitting in my area....Both work for the aramark concession company...they worked in the suites for the VIPS that would be attending the game.I mentioned this to Greg and his impression is that the raiders will be moving to Los Angeles once their lease expires at the O coliseum.

What do the concession people (Aramark) have to do with moving to LA? I don't understand the connection. Aramark has been the company that provides the food and service to the luxury boxes for a long time. Probably ever since the Raiders moved back to Oakland in '95. I know they had that concession at least by 2005 or so...because I was invited into a luxury box back then and I remember that name on the worker's uniforms. Does Aramark have a connection to the new stadium plans for LA?

AEG (Anschutz Entertainment Group) is the company that was supposed to be heading up the LA stadium proposal. Did you have them mixed up with Aramark Food Services? AEG announced they are being sold by the way.

I NEVER SAID IT "WAS THE REASON" THE RAIDERS MIGHT MOVE BACK TO LA.... I SAID IT WAS JUST ANOTHER PIECE IN THE LONG LINE OF PIECES THAT LEAD "ME" TO BELIEVE THIS MIGHT HAPPEN IN THE NEXT 3-4 YEARS OR SOONER... THE INSTANT FAN BASE... THE NEW STADIUM THAT MARK WILL NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR... I'M SURE THERE WILL BE INCENTIVE MONEY INVOLVED.... LOOK IT JUST LOOKS AND SMELLS LIKE THIS MIGHT HAPPEN.... THEY DID IT ONCE... I'M JUST SAYIN'!