not enought reason to use the drug... a null effect sythesized version could be made that is safe
EX is still dangerous... bathtub exctacy is still capable of killing you years later from one tab... it happened to a girl that went ot our
school...
not common, but is it worth it?

I've popped a few pills in my time, and I've got to say they are amazing, but they are quite damaging and can leave you feeling a little unhealthy
for the next few days. I wouldn’t recommend doing pills regally, especially for medical use, sure, they *might* help prevent cancer, but they'll
give you brain damage.

However, I recommend you all try them once, you'll have a lot of fun: D

I would like to know more about "bathtub ecstacy" and where you folks are getting your data. There is no evidence that MDMA alone causes death or
health problems in humans. The people you mentioned did not die from MDMA. In fact, it was used as a psychotheraputic tool during the seventies
before it became a party-drug.

Erowid.org is a good place for educating yourself about drugs both legal and
'illegal'. Here's a quote from that site:

Before it was made illegal, MDMA was gaining a reputation among the psychiatric community as a valuable therapeutic tool. People under its
influence often report seeing their lives in a whole new light. "I was completely blown away the first time I did X" said the same person quoted
above. "I saw some of my problems that I didn't even know I had! All of a sudden, It seemed like the source, nature and sometimes even the solution
of all my personal difficulties were completely obvious." Surfacing of repressed memories has also been reported.

Despite the legal risks surrounding Schedule I drugs, some therapists are still using MDMA in their practices. For a report on the subjective
experiences and psychological/behavioral sequelae of 20 psychiatrists who took MDMA, see "Phenomenology and Sequelae of 3,4
Methylenedioxy-methamphetamine Use" (Liester, Grob, Bravo, and Walsh) in J. Nervous and Mental Disease, Vol 180, No. 6, June 1992, Serial No. 1315.

Most people find the MDMA state so valuable by itself that it's not clear there's much to be gained from combining MDMA with most other substances
(though the combination of of MDMA with '___' seems to have a strong following). Further, combining drugs ("polydrug use" and "polydrug abuse")
complicates the medical and behavioral safety picture.

I would encourage you to read more on the subject, particularly
"TIKAL: The Continuation"
for a more correct understanding of why people do this drug and what its effects are.

Arsenic will also block cancer growth. Excstasy is a dangerous drug that interferes with brain chemicals. If it has any anti-cancer
properties, the FDA isn't simply going to permit it, its going to permit companies to research the drug and produce non-toxic versions of it, sort of
like with pot.

smallpeeps
I would like to know more about "bathtub ecstacy" and where you folks are getting your data. There is no evidence that MDMA alone causes death or
health problems in humans. The people you mentioned did not die from MDMA. In fact, it was used as a psychotheraputic tool during the seventies before
it became a party-drug.

you are correct, MDMA is fairly safe relativly speaking...
but how many underground drug labs can get the mix just right, so that it doesn't form any of the extremely damageing close cousins...
a "bad" ex trip can leave someone brain damaged, suicidally depressed, can cause siezures...
most ex that is on the streets is produced in someones basement...
I would have to check with my pharmacy friend, but there are some very easy ways to screw up the recipe... and kill or hurt someone in the
process...
also, synthetic herion is often sold as EX...

Ecstasy along with other anti-depressant drugs such as Prozac and weight loss pills have ability to stop cancer growth according to researchers
at the University of Birmingham.

I can't imagine how anyone can think that there is bias in that completely unbiased summary of the article.

MDMA is fairly safe relativly speaking...

Excepting of course its tendency to 'bleach brain cells'. MDMA (if i rememver correctly) works by getting brain cells to release a lot of
serotonin, while simultaneously and literally 'blocking' the 're-uptake' of the serotonin. This causes one to roll. Unfortunately, the serotonin
concentrations can get high enough that dopamine 're-uptake' channels take the serotonin up, putting them into vesicles where dopamine is supposed
to be processed. The serotonin gets processed mistakenly, resulting in, as a waste product, hydrogen peroxide. It literally bleaches brain
cells.

Its rather naive for anyone (not directiny this at anyone in particular btw) to state that a chemical that modifies the brain's chemistry in such a
way is 'safe'. The human brain is complex, as an organ, and the psyche is extremely complex also, and entirely chemically dependant. Consider
that, one can give a pyschotic anti-psychotics and they behave rather normally. Psychedellic drugs and such, like E, in a way do the opposite. One
can't expect that to not have repurcussions. Especially when tightly regulated medecine that has to be sold to Mr and Mrs Staightlaced John Doe
Public can have sideeffects, just consider what 'accidental' drugs that are entirely unregulated, in terms of contaminants concentrations and
processes, can do.

nygdan
Its rather naive for anyone (not directiny this at anyone in particular btw) to state that a chemical that modifies the brain's chemistry in such a
way is 'safe'. The human brain is complex, as an organ, and the psyche is extremely complex also, and entirely chemically dependant.

I forgive you, you were obviously skimming...
I was saying very carefully RELATIVELY... ie. it is safer than the bathtub versions that will kill you with one dose...
rather than bleach your brain over time... besides... bleaching the brain is done all the time...
it would explain why bleach blondes have lower test scores than real blonds... j/k

agreed?
agreed!

read, don't skim... that makes an A$$ out of you and... well.... you...

Good point on the ide effects of chemo. You lose your hair and that's okay but feeling down for a few days after taking a pill is just too much.
Typical of the double standards relating to 'narcotics'.

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