With both next gen consoles out already, and more room for people to provide first hand experiences with the tech, I thought I'd bring up a problem that has been bothering me since the reveal of both these systems- they both kind of suck. While the Sony elitists will exclaim "400 DOLLARS BRO" and the "Xbots" will reply with "BETTER MULTIPLAYER", and the PC elitists will condescendingly say "Pfft", I just think both the Xbox One and PS4 are both sort of a disappointment in their own right. Nothing seems to be new here. It all just seems like features we've seen before and I understand that it takes time for developers to utilize the full potential of both systems, but the jump in graphical quality and the "WOW" factor just aren't there, so what's all the current hype for?

The jump in graphical quality isn't there? Tell that to those of us enjoying Ryse or Killzone: Shadow Fall. Ryse, in particular, is absolutely stunning; leaps and bounds better than anything else available, IMO. To think that it looks like that at launch, and that games will only look better as we move forward is very exciting.

Cannot agree with you at all. Both PS4 and XBO are spectacular consoles so far, IMO. As an owner of both I am having an amazing time with both. The future is incredibly bright.

This generational leap isn't as visually obvious. It's a leap forward in world fidelity rather than graphical fidelity. The games look a bit better, but the worlds they're creating have a greater density of interactive items and deformable environments. I've had a couple of "next-gen" moments so far. Where it hit me exactly what kind of things can happen on these machines that could not happen on the 360 or PS3. It's not as immediately impressive as it was going from SD to HD, that much is true. But in practice, there are some fun interesting games happening on both consoles and even more on the way.

And to that guy reaching for the quote button to give me an earful: Of course the PC has been able to do similar things forever. So it you're one of those "PC MASTER RACE" types, don't bother quoting me. The leap forward in consoles is good for PC players too, whether they'd like to admit it or not. Because now even PC focused companies who might want to port their games later will have a higher water mark to work within.

With both next gen consoles out already, and more room for people to provide first hand experiences with the tech, I thought I'd bring up a problem that has been bothering me since the reveal of both these systems- they both kind of suck. While the Sony elitists will exclaim "400 DOLLARS BRO" and the "Xbots" will reply with "BETTER MULTIPLAYER", and the PC elitists will condescendingly say "Pfft", I just think both the Xbox One and PS4 are both sort of a disappointment in their own right. Nothing seems to be new here. It all just seems like features we've seen before and I understand that it takes time for developers to utilize the full potential of both systems, but the jump in graphical quality and the "WOW" factor just aren't there, so what's all the current hype for?

Were they all sold out when you went to get one? That what happened here?

Well perhaps your expectations for a console that costs less than $1000 is unrealistic. The games look fabulous for the most part although there is room for improvement. Give it some time and it will improve. These new consoles blow away last gen by far.

With both next gen consoles out already, and more room for people to provide first hand experiences with the tech, I thought I'd bring up a problem that has been bothering me since the reveal of both these systems- they both kind of suck. While the Sony elitists will exclaim "400 DOLLARS BRO" and the "Xbots" will reply with "BETTER MULTIPLAYER", and the PC elitists will condescendingly say "Pfft", I just think both the Xbox One and PS4 are both sort of a disappointment in their own right. Nothing seems to be new here. It all just seems like features we've seen before and I understand that it takes time for developers to utilize the full potential of both systems, but the jump in graphical quality and the "WOW" factor just aren't there, so what's all the current hype for?

Do you only buy consoles and games for graphics? because then i kinda feel sad for you in a way because you are sure missing out on some great gaming.

But to the consoles, they dont suck they are actually pretty great even tho Xbox one for some strange reason have decided that 720p is the new black and even tho most cant see the difference its a strange move.

Graphicwise both the ps4 and Xbone is not a giant leap in quality over Ps3 and xbox360 but the improvements are there, just look at AC4 for next-gen and on pc and you will find it hard even on max out pc settings to see much of a difference where if you take the same game for xbox360 and ps3 its clear as day.

So no i dont think they suck at all i think its a great product, and once the games start coming out i will be right there buying both of them.

I don't know, it's not like I own either, However, I will say tht so long as they can mke bigger games, with better graphics... That's all that really matters. The rest is just bonus features. I mean, NES to SNES to N64, thats all you got was better looking games, and I think that's all that really justifies a new console.

The new consoles are equivalent to a midrange PCs at the moment, the hardware isnt anything special, so whats important is what they do with it. If you only had access to a console last gen you will see a good difference, if you've had access to a high end pc for the last 3-4 years you will see that the consoles have finally caught up. Thats just how it goes, technology wise, but its a good thing. I was going to buy a PS4 but there just aren't any must have games for it yet. The consoles dont suck however, its just that they lack any titles that warrant an immediate purchase. Just give it time.

Yeah, they suck right now. There's very few games to play on them and offer very little of anything else to be more interesting than current hardware. They'll get better though and when that day comes, I'll be buying myself one.

I've been plenty happy with the PS4. It's got a fantastic controller, and RESOGUN and Killzone have been a blast so far. I played a lot of games this generation, but I didn't play anything on consoles that looked remotely as good as Killzone does, so yeah...

As has been said, if you're pretty much a console-only gamer, then yes, there is a nice jump with these new consoles. Nothing on PS360 looked as nice as Battlefield/Killzone.The Twitch integration is something I'm really enjoying as a spectator.

And this is just the beginning. Look at the changes made in the PS360's lifetime. Completely new UI's and functionality and additional services. I'm sure we'll see a similar jump in features with time.

I think the most failed aspect of next gen is online. That said next gen came too early. If the average internet mbps was greater then next gen would kick ass. Imagine every game becoming MMO. CoD, Assassins Creed, GTA, Fallout, even sport games MMO!

I never understand these complaints. ALL new hardware when released is initially going to be disappointing. Not only because developers have not yet had the time to explore and exploit what is capable on the new hardware, but because we're at a point hardware wise where the best of the old gen will be pretty much indescenable from the new of next.

There is a period of adjustment. People who buy a next-gen system need to realize this, and if they don't like it then don't buy it. I never buy next-gen systems at launch because I expect to be wowed on day one. I buy next-gen for the promise of the future.

I have an Xbone and I love it. The games I have are Assassin's Creed IV, Battlefield 4, Call of Duty: Ghosts, Forza 5, and Ryse. I haven't played Ryse yet, but I've been playing the others and they're fantastic. Great gameplay and a substantial increase in graphics from the 360. I'm set.

The graphical leap forward is far less noticeable than it has been in previous generations. We had a leap from 2d to 3d, and 3d to hd. And now we have, what? HD to marginally better HD? I think I'll enjoy my 360 for a few more years until the xbox one goes down in price.