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Covid-19 One Month In- The Effect of No Sex

Prior to this wonderful virus spreading like wildfire, I'd see a gorgeous escort twice a week (I have a rotation of 8 or so).

Now Covid-19 has us all "social distancing" so our lungs dont' fill up with fluid and mucus till we suffocate (a pleasant thought I know!). I've gone one month now without sex and the effects are as follows:

* Dullness: I don't have that spark I used too.

* Survival vs Thriving: I am on low energy mode getting through the day instead of seizing the day

* Glass Half Empty: Instead of finding the silver lining and focusing on the positive, I inadvertently find myself focusing on what's wrong

* Temper: Over the last 7 years or so, I've beaten a temper I've had most of my life. It's come back during this month. It seems to come out of nowhere. Things make me much angrier than they usually do.

* Less relaxed confidence: When I was having sex regularly, I had a relaxed confidence. I guess I'm "relaxed" now, but it's kind of a dull/"who-cares" confidence.

* Jerking Off does not really do it: After I've been with an escort, I don't really think about women for the next 2 days. In self-service, it doesn't really get rid of the thought. In fact, it's there almost right after (whatever subconscious program in my head that directs me to pro-create is like "nice try buddy, get out there").

* Stress: Stress accumulates whereas sex eliminates stress.

* Care about Stuff Less: Put me down as someone who does not think "no fucks given" is a constructive or useful mindset. It's more of a coping mentality on an overly negative/pessimistic mindset. A defensive posture to prevent one from being hurt BUT ALSO from caring and investing in people and projects. Yet that's my mindset now. I don't care about stuff except "that Bitch Carole Baskin" getting what's coming to her

* Less command with women: The lust instinct isn't satisifed so my desire response to women is stronger than it should be.

* Defeatism: For some reason, I don't think difficult things are possible. I am more consumed with the possibility of failure.

I have written over the years about the importance of sex- there's an undeniable biological significance- when it comes to lowering the stress hormone (cortisol), etc. - also transmuting sex drive to useful activity.

For those who can maintain positive, constructive mindsets without sex - awesome. But this just confirms to me what I've suspected for a long time -- sex is a need for men and if unmet will lead to real changes in mindset and how vibrant you are. Like I said, if that doesn't apply to you - great.

Makes me wonder if when things get back to normal, if govts. recognize the impact abstinence has on mental health in men, they should just subsidize sex workers. I know it sounds ridiculous - and it will be met with the standard howls of indignation and ridicule. For me - I can afford it. But I worry about those who can't. Even w/out Covid-19, we live in an abnormal time where more men are w/out sex than in recent times. Is society to just ignore it and the attendant health and mental health consequences?

Some of you may be wondering -- who is this Jagrmeister guy? Have a look at some of my posts from MGTOW Forums--> Jagr Archive (collection of my articles)

Re: Covid-19 One Month In- The Effect of No Sex

I did a recent video on this very topic "The Sexpocalypse"...I think this is a time where we may see greater adoption of the sex robot/doll etc being pushed into the marketplace as a "cleaner, safer" option...but then again...maybe not. I agree with a lot of what you are saying here, and it makes a lot of sense to me.

Last edited by sirreaper; April 7, 2020 at 4:48 PM.

SR

BED. MADE. LIE.

Pussy is and will always be transitory. You'll get it when you can and enjoy life anyway when you can't.

Re: Covid-19 One Month In- The Effect of No Sex

Doesnt apply to me, but really appreciate the honesty in describing the problem. Very rare to see someone writing 10, very obvious, negative points about themselves successively in a terse bullet point format.

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After having been married for most my adult life.....and very limited sex the past few years of that marriage... I have gotten over the "feel" of the "Need" for pussy and it did help me after the divorce with the adoption of MGTOW life style. I still get frequent offers... but the pleasure just ain't worth the trouble to me...

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The denial of sex is has long been the weapon of the individual whimyn. Jagr, what you have described makes me wonder if this denial is deliberately being institutionalized to the detriment of men. Of course, the easiest way to demoralize men is to make them all criminals. Looking at the legal and judicial systems treatment of men, the public trials by allegation and the general disdain for any expression of masculinity, being a man with a normal sex drive is almost the same as being targeted: the male sex drive is all the rationale needed by the feminists to declare all men guilty of the crime of the week.

The irony is that if the system truly wanted to demoralize men, they would not outlaw sex, the system would make marriage mandatory....

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Pussy is a drug, the longer your off it, the less you feel the withdrawal symptoms.
I felt the same way jagrmeister does for the first 5 years of my journey, after that it was smooth and stable sailing.
I don't ever want to return to needing a women for anything, not even sex, and that makes them both useless and powerless, where (for my sake) I need them to be.

Are the laws and order within your society a bit unreasonable, counterproductive, and even hazardous? That's the mark of feminism diligently at work in your society. Need relief? MGTOW is the only ejection seat available to men facing this live systematic crash and burn scenario.

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Most of these effects are different ways of saying "depression". No sex (and everything else) has left you in a depressed mental state. This not the same thing as depressive illness: depression is your soul running in conservation mode, waiting out the winter. It's normal and natural, if a bit unpleasant. There's excellent reason for people to be in a funk right at the moment.

All the usual advice that applies to dealing with non-clinical depression probably applies here. After all - this current moment is a golden opportunity for some things that maybe the usual routine makes difficult. Time to read that book, learn that new thing, and maybe work out.

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Originally Posted by mgtower

Pussy is a drug, the longer your off it, the less you feel the withdrawal symptoms.
I felt the same way jagrmeister does for the first 5 years of my journey, after that it was smooth and stable sailing.
I don't ever want to return to needing a women for anything, not even sex, and that makes them both useless and powerless, where (for my sake) I need them to be.

What's your advice for dealing with sexual urges, when you are younger? Trying my best to fight the urge for sex, its hard, some days are easier, other days not so much.

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While I think it is nice that some people can function without sex, I would have to say I am skeptical of the efficacy of living with little sex or no sex in one's life. Sex does have huge chemical and psychological benefits. Since Jagr can afford it, I think he will have less of an issue compared to someone like me, who is just making ends meet and is too short, ugly to attract a dating prospect.

About gov subsidising prostituation. Some people think this is a crazy and wild idea, but I think it might be interesting. I know one country (I forgot where) that actually tried something similar. Not subsiding, but actually asking women to volunteer their body for the pleasure of disabled men who have never had a sex.

Some may say this is sounding INCEL-ish. Although I think INCELS are incompatible with the MGTOW way of thinking, it is important to recognise that sex is such a fundamental human experience, that I think every man (and woman) should have the support and freedom to engage in all kinds of sexual fantasies they desire (provided they don't harm others in the process).

To Boar's point; sex has always been weaponised. Even from birth, many mothers dress provocatively in front of a 4 or 5 year old boy. This is actually a form of torture, a boy that age cannot comprehend this and is emotionally overwhelmed.

I dated a chick, who for a while refused to give me oral sex, or any other sex. She would give me a hand job and as soon as I was about to come, she would release her hand. And she would repeat until I was in pain.

I didn't know what was happening, that she was just a scumbag; but I was quite young and naive at the time.

A mother cannot raise a boy to be a man, not because he needs a father figure; but because she favours team vagina over her own son.

Tradcon women are the most manipulative of all kinds of women, because they infect you with false hope.
Radfems are your best friend, because they hate you and verbalise it - that's honesty!

The red pill rage is a process which takes many many years - so be kind and patient with yourself; you will overcome it!

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I'm 36 and haven't had sex for almost 10 years now, but I don't miss it one bit, because I found sex rather boring. Sure it is a nice thing to do and feel for a short while, but I've never felt the NEED to have sex. Granted, I've always had a very low sex drive, so even when I had a girlfriend it was maybe once a week or once every two weeks, and though it bothered me a bit, I was pretty okay with it. No girlfriend ever withheld sex from me, so it's not that I was a pussywhipped simp who accepted that I wasn't getting any. Haven't had any for 10 years now, but I might get some in the (near) future. If I don't, fine. If I do, I might see what I've been missing for a decade, and see if my thoughts have changed. I dunno.

edit: I never paid/pay for sex, never hired an escort either, so I won't hire an escort or something once the corona crisis has blown over.

Re: Covid-19 One Month In- The Effect of No Sex

Originally Posted by Opaque

I dated a chick, who for a while refused to give me oral sex, or any other sex. She would give me a hand job and as soon as I was about to come, she would release her hand. And she would repeat until I was in pain.

I didn't know what was happening, that she was just a scumbag; but I was quite young and naive at the time.

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I have to admit I’ve been feeling the effects of the shutdown myself. While my lifestyle hasn’t really changed that much I have noticed a difference in my attitude. When it was my choice there wasn’t a problem, maybe because when I felt like a change I could always hit the bar, invite friends round or go visiting, now it feels oppressive.

We are being told that many of the things we have always done are now wrong (for the moment anyway) and that has got to have a psychological effect. It takes time to incorporate a different way of life and make it your own but this has been thrust upon most of the world all at once – no choice.

And if this is having an effect on me, someone that rarely goes out socialising, the complete change of pace must be hell for those who usually have a more active social life.

Also, if you run your own business and it has been impacted or closed completely the stress must be enormous.

As for the sex drive, I agree with tower that it’s like an addiction; the less sex you have the less it bothers you until you reach a point where you hardly think of it at all. But just like any addiction going cold-turkey causes a degree of trauma, and when it’s imposed on you rather than being your own choice it must be even more frustrating. I even know one guy that simply can’t take it and is still trying to set up dates on tinder (or some such). Brings a whole new meaning to the term ‘dying for a shag’.

I suspect the sense of defeatism and lack of motivation you’re feeling is less to do with your sex life, although that is obviously a part of it, and more to do with the frustration we all feel about having those things that we have always considered personal choices controlled by others, coupled with not knowing where this is all going. Right or wrong this is a many faceted attack on everything we think we know about society.

One more thing. With regards depression it’s often very difficult to understand your own feelings and attitudes while the cause still persists. When this is all over and things return to some semblance of normality you may be surprised about what you realise was really going on with your emotions and your thinking.

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From my own experiences:

I've had some long stretches without sex. Firstly I lost my virginity at 23/24 (depends how you define losing virginity. If you have follow up questions I suggest you also have a puke-bucket ready). As a man in his 30s I've since then had two separate 3 year periods of no sex. For me, celibacy doesn't work. I've given it a solid go on multiple occasions and it doesn't get easier. Sex is not all that is needed for happiness, far from it, but its an important part of the puzzle.

I appreciate all men are different, however in my opinion the vast majority of men need semi-regular sex and, perhaps more importantly, certainty of getting it, in order to be happy and healthy. Its deeply wired within us males to link access to sex with self-esteem and it can't be fooled with masturbation. Maybe it can be fooled with a sex doll, I've personally not tried.

I personally have a very low sex drive compared to most men, so even when I'm getting sex, once or twice a week is full-tilt for me. However, I still find cold turkey causes significant downsides.

I've had one proper relationship (lasted about 3 years) and it was sexually satisfying at the time. The regular and enjoyable sex did significantly improve my mood and outlook. It was not a fix all by any means, but it helped a lot.

The main issue is the strings (chains) attached to having sex with a woman. In my opinion there is no string-free way to get sex. Seeing prostitutes seems like the best option as the risks of sperm jacking and false allegation are very low. Risk of divorce rape is none and STI risk is possibly lower than that with a carousel rider.

I've met a few Chads/alphas who play the field and get "free" pussy. In my opinion they're paying for it in risk. It only takes one jilted lover to ruin their lives.

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Sex is a weapon of control. It is much harder for you younger guys to resist . I know when I was younger I wanted sex all the time....every nite if I could get it......that pussy was a weapon and I did some dumb shit and bad moves for it...back in the day.
When you get to the point of being able to resist the urges it loses it's power over you.

When all this virus crap is over and done I feel many people will reevaluate priorities in their life. Changes will happen and are happening ..

I do not associate with many females, and the ones that I do are of an older age group , so I don't know how it is affecting women and their attitude about things today. But I'd imagine we will see some of them backing off a bit while the majority may damn well redouble their AWALT and Victim mindset.

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What's your advice for dealing with sexual urges, when you are younger? Trying my best to fight the urge for sex, its hard, some days are easier, other days not so much.

Resisting sex urges when you are young can backfire as it could lead you toward an over reaction. It is better to be smart and stay safe within moderation. I would never advise young men to abstain from sex but to simply take precautions.

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Originally Posted by Hoppes#9

I know when I was younger I wanted sex all the time....every nite if I could get it...

I occasionally wonder just how much of our sex drive is biological and how much is psychological. Casting my mind back many years I was just as mad for it as anyone else. Looking back now though there was a pattern. When I first entered a relationship sex was the conclusion to every night with my ‘beloved’. And when I say mad for it I mean 2 or 3 times a night, sometimes more, sometimes mornings too. I just couldn’t get enough.

But here’s the pattern, after a few months something would click with me, I still don’t fully understand it (possibly just the repetition) where having sex suddenly changed from something I wanted, even needed, to feeling like I was going through the motions – it nearly started to feel like a chore.

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Originally Posted by Jackoff

I have to admit I’ve been feeling the effects of the shutdown myself. While my lifestyle hasn’t really changed that much I have noticed a difference in my attitude. When it was my choice there wasn’t a problem, maybe because when I felt like a change I could always hit the bar, invite friends round or go visiting, now it feels oppressive.

We are being told that many of the things we have always done are now wrong (for the moment anyway) and that has got to have a psychological effect. It takes time to incorporate a different way of life and make it your own but this has been thrust upon most of the world all at once – no choice.

And if this is having an effect on me, someone that rarely goes out socialising, the complete change of pace must be hell for those who usually have a more active social life.

Also, if you run your own business and it has been impacted or closed completely the stress must be enormous.

Magnificent post. I'm just about better placed than anyone to ride this out. I'm an introvert and always have projects on the go, many of which I can do at home. I run my own business, from home, and it supplies on-line learning - one industry that shouldn't be harmed by this shit storm, and quite possibly will benefit from it.

But it has hit me like a hammer, and your post is the first time I've seen similar feelings to mine written down in words.

I used to go to the pub about once a week, and after a bit of banter with the barman, would then hide in a corner, with my kindle, and not speak to a soul. MAN do I miss that. It makes no sense, but it seems I do need even that tiny bit of human interaction.

And despite many years of claiming to hate people, I'm certain that a large part of my malaise is that I'm worried about the effect on everybody. What kind of a living hell must it be to be an extrovert, with 3 children bouncing off the walls for months with no sign or prospect of an end to it?

I feel like I should be really smashing those unfinished projects, be building up a new series of products. This should be the best opportunity ever. Yet I feel like going to bed, and staying there.

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Originally Posted by CultVoid

I'm just about better placed than anyone to ride this out. I'm an introvert and always have projects on the go, many of which I can do at home. I run my own business, from home, and it supplies on-line learning - one industry that shouldn't be harmed by this shit storm, and quite possibly will benefit from it.

But it has hit me like a hammer, and your post is the first time I've seen similar feelings to mine written down in words.

I used to go to the pub about once a week, and after a bit of banter with the barman, would then hide in a corner, with my kindle, and not speak to a soul. MAN do I miss that. It makes no sense, but it seems I do need even that tiny bit of human interaction.

Same here. I am an extreme introvert. This quarantine is almost what I already do. I spend all my day on my computer working on my own projects (digital art, indie games). But still, I like to go out to a park nearby once a day, atleast 5 times a week. It brings a refreshing change, watching trees and birds, some much needed physical activity (brisk walking), and talking to a long time friend who also goes there.

So even if there is no human interaction involved, I still miss the birds, trees and squirrels...

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I normally go 4 days a week to the gym on a split routine...well that is on hold for now And also the local Rifle/Pistol range is closed...

But other than that I still do pretty much what I was doing 3 weeks ago. I take the jeep out,......or I go over to a friends house and hang out in the garage drinking beer and fucking shit up with wrenches and power tools...the things I am good for... Also the Liquor store is still open and my Cigar shop is open as well. I can still get access to the Pond to drown a few worms.
For me this lock down has not had a big effect so far.. That all may change but it is good for the moment.