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“They’re the ones that makes it happen,” Lemaire said. “It’s not us. It’s not me. It’s not the other guy. It’s not the guy before. It’s not the guy after. It’s them. And they have to take care of business.”
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"I guess I just miss my friend" (#28)

Daniel: I don't think that Zach Parise and Noah Cross are quite analogues, but I don't want to explain why without ruining Chinatown for people who haven't seen it.

Spoiler: The chick in the Crying Game is actually a man.

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“They’re the ones that makes it happen,” Lemaire said. “It’s not us. It’s not me. It’s not the other guy. It’s not the guy before. It’s not the guy after. It’s them. And they have to take care of business.”
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"I guess I just miss my friend" (#28)

I collect spores, molds and fungus.Hello fellow American. This you should vote me. I leave power. Good. Thank you, thank you. If you vote me, I'm hot. What? Taxes, they'll be lower... son. The Democratic vote is the right thing to do Philadelphia, so do.How do you spot risk? How do you avoid risk? And what makes it so risky?

Zach's from Minnesota and is building a house there. Obviously wasn't enough to get Peyton Manning to give the Dolphins more than a cup of coffee, but that's something to consider.

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I think this crap about Parise signing in Minneosta because of the money he'd get and the fact that he is playing in his homestate in bullsh!t.

Look at how many players dedicate their careers to franchises to teams thousands of miles away from their home even though they'd probably had a nice contract there waiting for them.

Zach Parise is not signing with Minnesota. Not with New York. I would say its 60% NJ and 40% Detroit.

Most times you aren't getting potentially $20-40 million dollars more to play with your home team though, usually people talk about taking hometown discounts, not markups. As much as it's easy for us to say it shouldn't be about the money, when it's THAT much of a difference it's hard not to take that into account.

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"The Devils have high standards, that's the difference. We have a standard to live up to every year, and a couple of teams in our area don't have the standards we do." - Pat Burns

The New Jersey Devils win Stanley Cups everywhere:-NHL record for most road wins in the playoffs - 10-1 in '95 and 10-2 in '00-NHL record for most home wins in the playoffs - 12-1 in '03

Most times you aren't getting potentially $20-40 million dollars more to play with your home team though, usually people talk about taking hometown discounts, not markups. As much as it's easy for us to say it shouldn't be about the money, when it's THAT much of a difference it's hard not to take that into account.

But Minnesota sucks. They suck out loud. They were TERRIBLE this year. Try to name their defenseman, I wouldn't be surprised if you can't name one who isn't Kurtis Foster. If they were in a non-hockey market there'd be a lot more talk about how bad they are, because the Canadian and big-city US media love to talk about a flagging franchise.

Zach could very well go there, but I think it's unlikely - assuming Parise's talk about the NYR to be genuine, I think it's really between Detroit and the Devils, with Minnesota bringing up the rear.

But Minnesota sucks. They suck out loud. They were TERRIBLE this year. Try to name their defenseman, I wouldn't be surprised if you can't name one who isn't Kurtis Foster. If they were in a non-hockey market there'd be a lot more talk about how bad they are, because the Canadian and big-city US media love to talk about a flagging franchise.

Zach could very well go there, but I think it's unlikely - assuming Parise's talk about the NYR to be genuine, I think it's really between Detroit and the Devils, with Minnesota bringing up the rear.

LA's a name that's been popping up lately too. (Not just by you know who).

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I don't think I can lol...I know they had Zanon but they traded him at the deadline I think? I only remember Clayton Stoner cause of the dump-in goal last year but don't know if he's still on their team or in the minors.

The Rangers sucked for a million years and still attracted every free agent known to man (yeah I know most famous arena in the world lol), how bad a team is isn't relevant to me when talking about FA's unless you're bad and in a ****hole like the Isles are, or out in the middle of nowhere with an average temperature of 20 below like Edmonton. Those teams are the exception to the most money trumps all rule.

LA's a name that's been popping up lately too. (Not just by you know who).

I'd find it amusing if LA tried to skimp on Kovy and offer him a $5.3 million cap hit then blew the bank out for Zach two years later after winning a Cup, and with other big-salary players on the team. Can't really picture him pulling a Hossa, especially assuming dollars are similar.

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"The Devils have high standards, that's the difference. We have a standard to live up to every year, and a couple of teams in our area don't have the standards we do." - Pat Burns

The New Jersey Devils win Stanley Cups everywhere:-NHL record for most road wins in the playoffs - 10-1 in '95 and 10-2 in '00-NHL record for most home wins in the playoffs - 12-1 in '03

I don't think I can lol...I know they had Zanon but they traded him at the deadline I think? I only remember Clayton Stoner cause of the dump-in goal last year but don't know if he's still on their team or in the minors.

The Rangers sucked for a million years and still attracted every free agent known to man (yeah I know most famous arena in the world lol), how bad a team is isn't relevant to me when talking about FA's unless you're bad and in a ****hole like the Isles are, or out in the middle of nowhere with an average temperature of 20 below like Edmonton. Those teams are the exception to the most money trumps all rule.

The funny thing about the missing-the-playoff Rangers, is that everyone just looooooooooved playing there...in front of the sellout crowds, in the Garden, in New York...too bad winning wasn't terribly important to those check-cashers (no one seemed terribly angry about the lack of on-ice success)...it seemed like those players were more interested in some fantasy idea of what playing hockey for the Rangers meant...

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LA's a name that's been popping up lately too. (Not just by you know who).

I'm tempted to write something big about this because it just doesn't make sense. Yes, they have the cap room NOW, but it's a tight squeeze. Then you have to figure that this team has to keep Kopitar, Brown, Parise, Doughty, Richards, Carter, and Quick long-term - Kopitar's at 6.7, Brown is at 3.6 NOW, but he should be paid at least $7M when he goes UFA, Parise will get $7M, Doughty is at $7M, Richards and Carter are at $5M, and Quick will probably settle between 7 and 8M long-term. That's over $40M to 7 players, leaving you with $25-30M to go to the remaining 13. That's difficult to do the way the NHL is shaping up now.

If they can make it work, good for them, but I don't see it. They would probably have to get rid of both Brown and Quick when they went UFA.

As for the Rangers, they were not good, but they at least had name players and a chance of success (really, what undermined them most was goaltending in most of those years). And the market then just wasn't the same. And who did they get who were stars, really? They signed Theo Fleury (a star, but NHL GMs had to be aware of his substance abuse issues), Bobby Holik, who's prideful enough to want to play in New York, and... who else? They traded for Lindros and Bure and Kovalev. The rest of the guys they kept signing weren't very good players. The market was totally different, the league was a lot different. Apples and oranges.

LA's a name that's been popping up lately too. (Not just by you know who).

The thing with LA is that they are locked into big contracts with Kopitar, Richards, Carter, and Doughty. Plus, Quick is due for a nice fat raise next year and Brown the year after (smaller raise, but a raise). They can fit Zach I guess, but their depth will plummet after the first line.

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I'm tempted to write something big about this because it just doesn't make sense. Yes, they have the cap room NOW, but it's a tight squeeze. Then you have to figure that this team has to keep Kopitar, Brown, Parise, Doughty, Richards, Carter, and Quick long-term - Kopitar's at 6.7, Brown is at 3.6 NOW, but he should be paid at least $7M when he goes UFA, Parise will get $7M, Doughty is at $7M, Richards and Carter are at $5M, and Quick will probably settle between 7 and 8M long-term. That's over $40M to 7 players, leaving you with $25-30M to go to the remaining 13. That's difficult to do the way the NHL is shaping up now.

If they can make it work, good for them, but I don't see it. They would probably have to get rid of both Brown and Quick when they went UFA.

I'd note the Brown trade rumors that were circulating at the trade deadline. Those were reported by pretty reputable sources. So maybe the plan is to keep Parise and trade Brown or let him walk when his contract is up.

I agree though, LA doesn't spend irresponsibly and there's no need for them to give anyone a blow-you-out of the water type offer. If there's anything to it, my guess is that it would be a manageable cap hit type offer with the message that this is the best chance for you to win the Cup.

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