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No point talking about FAs that teams ain't gonna let leave. GB isn't parting with him

Can't see him leaving either. The Packers are in a decent position with their cap space to bring him back, but perhaps a sticking point could be price and whether they are willing to pay it?

Apparently he wants to at least match what Decker got from the Jets ($36 million, 5yr), and they recently signed Nelson to a new deal ($39 million, 4yr). If they can get him at $7 million a year, they should bring him back. However, at $9 million (or more) they may decide to not pay that amount of money to two WRs, or they may not want to pay Cobb more than their star receiver, Jordy Nelson.

Like you, I don't think Cobb is going anywhere. Him and Nelson combine as one of the best duos in the league. I can't imagine they want to let go of a 24 year old heading into his prime years. But i suppose it wouldn't be too surprising to see one of the big name receivers hit free agency.

The obvious choice is OBJ. He's had one of the best rookie wr seasons in history, so I'd be surprised if he doesn't win this award.

Personally the dark horse for this could be Mike Evans. For him to put up over a thousand yards and 12 TDs with the QBs he had to work with this season is pretty damn good. It makes me wonder what his stat lines could have been if he had a better QB throwing his way.

You think he would put up with criticism of him or his staff from an unproductive receiver ???

It is seriously not a question of whether Avant was right or wrong...Pro's keep dissension in house...they don't broadcast it for the world to see.

I agree with your point, but it's a bad example. The Patriots are a well run organisation. Under Belichick, Brady and co, they have built a dynasty. So every season they are a contender. You may hear the odd rumbling that Brady doesn't like them letting his receivers go, but ultimately they are a successful team that we've never been.

But what would Belichick or most head coaches do?

They would probably throw the guy in the dog house or cut him. If the players criticise the coach, then they generally end up being shown the door more times than not. The only time they might not get shown the door is if the coach actually wakes up and takes their point on board, and does something to sort out the problems his team faces, rather than living in cloud cuckoo land where they think their team is still a contender...

If Cam keeps going head first into his dives he is going to continue to be an open target for defenders.

The obvious thing that needs to happen right now, and by right now I mean this very moment, is for cam to start sliding feet first and taking away the defenses ability to hit him.

Agree?

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While I agree that Cam needs to protect himself better and not become an open target for defenders. The problem with sliding is that it doesn't totally remove the risk of suffering a serious injury, take Brian Hoyer last season against the Bills, he exited the pocket and went to slide but he got hit and tore his ACL. Granted Cam is a better athlete and a lot bigger, but sliding, and diving for that matter, both carry risks of their own in tight quarters where defenders may not always be able to pull out of the hit quickly enough. Now maybe sliding (or diving) will help save Cam from taking some hefty hits, but he could just as easily end up getting hit like Hoyer did and getting hurt. Sliding and diving isn't some magical move that negates the risks when a quarterback is scrambling. Quarterbacks can, and have, got hurt trying to slide and dive.

So while I agree that Cam needs to take less hits, how he goes about that will come down to what he feels most comfortable doing. Can he slide? Probably. But last thing they need to do is try to force him to do something that he might be uncomfortable with.

Three seasons, three play off appearances. Led cent production. Granted he's had some inconsistency, but overall he's done a solid job for them. He's not elite, but he's certainly good enough to keep them competitive.

Now ok he's not won a play off game yet, but Peyton Manning and Matt Ryan both went 0-3 before winning their first play off game (the year they did both went to the conference championship game). So maybe Andy Dalton will have a similar career trajectory?

Anyway, with this deal and Kap's deal, I wonder what type of money Cam will get?

I think Rondo is a bit of a unique player though. He is a great defender, rebounder, and passer, but he does not score enough to a true number one player. I think his value really comes into play with him as a second or third guy that does so much.

He makes a lot more sense on a playoff team, so I think the Celtics probably move him. If you can get a decent return for him, it makes more sense than hoping that the Celtics will be championship caliber in the next 3-4 years.

If the Celtics clear cap space they can make a run at free agents next off season. I think the likes of Kevin Love (if he isn't dealt), LaMarcus Aldridge, Marc Gasol, Big Al (if he opts out) etc would rather have Rondo at PG than Smart...

If the Celtics can add a top tier free agent and hit lucky in the draft, they can start building themselves into a competitive outfit. Granted it might make sense to deal Rondo and get something for him, but what will a team offer for him?

The Kings might throw a first round pick their way plus Maccllum and McLemore; or a contender might throw some picks their way; but whatever the deal, unless it was too good to turn down, I'd keep Rondo and re-sign him.

I think Rondo, Bradley, Green, Young, Smart and co makes for a decent young core. Add another set of draft picks and add a big name free agent, and they can make progress. Some teams have risen quickly, so it wouldn't surprise me to see the Celtics back as a force in the next couple of seasons.

Boston has done the same thing with Rondo for years and eventually they will cave, and I think it could be soon.

The difference with Rondo is the Celtics have won a championship and been to the play offs 6 out 8 seasons in his career. They are currently rebuilding, and while that is not something he will enjoy being a part of, the fact is they have an elite PG to build around. Generally teams don't give away elite players, and instead try to surround them with players that can help them compete for a championship.

The Celtics have some decent pieces like Avery Bradley and Jeff Green, both guys can become contributors for them going forwards. Then there some young recent draft picks like Olynek, Smart and Young that can have bright futures. Now I'm not sure how good the Celtics will be this season, but if they can show signs of improvement and that they are heading in the right direction, it is possible that Rondo signs a new contract with them.

They might end up trading Rondo because they have Marcus Smart, but for me, I would rather build my team around an elite PG like Rondo than Marcus Smart. Don't get me wrong, Smart is talented, but has he the potential to become a better player than Rondo? I'm not convinced.

Just like p49 said, 3mill more for deng is the better value by far. Only thing saving williams is the PF, both have had injuries bugs. In a small lineup I think deng could pull off being being a PF.

Deng is a good value at $10 million, but I couldn't see him turning Miami down for us. They are a team with three championships, and are a well run team. They've got two all stars (Bosh and Wade), and some decent supporting players (McRoberts, Granger, Chalmers etc). If their starting five stays healthy, and their rotation is productive, they can compete for a high seed.

That said, I think Williams is a fair replacement for McRoberts, and perhaps the better fit for us. He's not going to set the world alight, but he's got the ability to contribute in the line up and bridge the gap until Zeller or Vonleh are ready [if they ever are]. The problem with Deng is it drops MKG to the bench, or forces the team to play a small line up. For me, PF was the bigger need for a veteran.

Idk, I think Lebron could mirror Duncan in terms of longevity and productivity. Their styles change slightly, as they have to adjust, but his game could be effective for years even after the athleticism declines.

Agreed. He's great at getting to the rim, and he's become a very good jump shooter as well. LeBron is a dedicated player and will refine his game when certain aspects of it start to decline.

For me, LeBron could play for as long as Duncan and Dirk if he stays injury free.

McDermott was bad, but Vonleh might even be worse considering we just drafted Cody last year. WTF are we doing?!?!

Cody didn't exactly set the world alight. Plus, we either needed to draft a PF, re-sign McRoberts for a hefty salary increase, or sign a free agent. By getting Vonleh at #9 is a steal. He'd be a top prospect in some draft classes, and perhaps might have edged out Zeller last season.

I don't think Kemba is getting 10-12. He's more in the range of 8-10. If he wants more, then see ya.

Before last season SI had him rated 11th among PG's in a tie for 10th with Irving. He's going to get a top level PG type contract in the 10-12+ range.

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Got to say I agree with Carolina-Chuck on Kemba's contract. I think he will be in the same paid grade as Jeff Teague and Brandon Knight [$8 million per season]. If you look at Teague's stats from last season he had a better FG, 3P, FT, APG and PPG on less minutes than Kemba [Teague averaged 3.6 mins less than Walker]. For me, I don't think Kemba should get another 2-4 million or more than the likes of Teague.

Seems like the Mavs are giving up a lot in this deal. But it does give them an upgrade at center, and a serviceable starting PG/decent back up. Perhaps this is the first move for them to make a run at a 'star'?

Nick Young played sixth man for the Lakers last season, averaged about 17ppg. What did our sixth man do for us?

Can't say I remember a very productive sixth man. When we bring Hendo or MKG off, we don't really have a kid that can score like Young did last season. So bringing the kid in to play the sixth man role would be an improvement.

You might say stop looking at guys like this, but if we are sticking with Hendo and MKG as starters, we need rotation options, scorers that can come off the bench - Nick Young fills that role. Now if the desire is to move Hendo or MKG to sixth man, and upgrade those positions (eg. we sign Stephenson and/or Deng, or a FA and then Butler via Chicago for the draft picks), then fair enough Nick Young isn't needed because Hendo and MKG as back ups are good players.

To say stop looking at mediocrity is a harsh statement when Young is likely to be a sixth man player, and that's a role he would give us a serious upgrade on.