If you need to know what’s wrong with American conservatism in the early 21st century you have only to look at their view of the Girl Scouts. You would think that legislatures would want to honor the 100th anniversary of an organization like the Girl Scouts but empowering women isn’t exactly what the patriarchal GOP is about. Even worse from their standpoint is an imagined connection between the Girl Scouts and Planned Parenthood. The end result is that anyone seeking to empower girls and women is radical. (CONTINUED:)

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Now they decided that the war on terror was a war and they require you to say "War on Terror" several times a day or you are not a real American.

Just because they are attacking and winning the onslaught on the rights of women's healthcare, reproductive rights, equal pay etc. They don't authorize you to call it a was. Actually they don't want to talk about it, just like Romney doesn't want to talk about Bain Capital.

And if they don't want to talk about it (while they are doing it) you must not talk about it. If you talk about, that is called "character assassination." Bot if you don't want to talk about Dems support of wiretapping everybody in the world (which is happening) they say you are ducking a legitimate issue.

But of course they are 100% behind the Boy Scouts. It is a good organization for the most part, but the institutionalized bigotry that the Cons insist on keeping, disqualifies from using the same facilities that the Girls Scouts use, because of the "morally straight" tenant.

The only organizations they want influencing thinking is the organizations they favor, which in twisted sort of irony, are the stupidest organizations on earth, teaching people the most worthless, and untrue, bullshit imaginable. Don't worry bout what dem der biologists say, snakes crawl cause their the devil. Now listen to me speak in tongues in incomprehensible gibberish, and walk with me, and pretend that feeds your soul some woo woo juice. I mean, WTF? :)

Although, I don't want to disparage the deeply held beliefs of others, and I agree, Jesus seemed like a great guy (even if he never existed, who can argue with forgiveness and love). Is there a god? Well, seems like wishful thinking, but at a minimum if we insist on holding on to those sort of ideas, let's not allow them to detach us from objective reality, or allow the powers that be to use those ideas in manipulative ways.

Don't fall for the Cons con-job, both parties are not the same. They don't care how or why, they just want The People to stay the fuck out of their political system.

Our negligence let the Cons, who have plotted against our American experiment in democracy for the People since before its inception, snatch it up and turn it against us and for the 1% Plutocrats, their current day Kings.

We have a lot of waking up to do and a lot of work. We need to get the Cons and the money out ASAP!

First the Vote! A consistent lesser evil Vote will evolve to really good!!

But they say they don't want to talk about it. They just want to sneak them trough without anyone noticing. A war is only war if they say it's a war. e.g. War on Terror (not terrorists) you have to keep saying it or you aren't an American. And the War on Women, just because they are under attack and losing, it isn't a war cause we say it isn't.

They say it is all linked to their propensity to feel threatened and fearful, but I don't accept any obligation go to extraordinary lengths to calm their fears as I would a child.

If I did, they would accept it, I am sure, but then the would condemn me for appeasement. That can be amusing in a child but it is time they put their big boy pants on and grow enough courage to cut the military in half, give our civil rights back and be responsible human beings.

Us old guys are known for limiting our patience as our remaining time gets short. Enough is enough, tough love is the best they deserve.

But I guess you can change wars in the middle of a president. GOP declared war on women, GLBT, teachers, firefighters, cops, students, seniors, the poor, sick people, people who might get sick, veterans, people with health insurance, people without health insurance, people who eat food, people who eat food like products, people who drink water, people who breathe air, people who drink anything out of plastic containers, people who take medicine, people who fly in airplanes, people who want to buy American cars made in American factories in American owned companies, US manufacturing companies, homeowners, schools, and many others.

Why people will feed the dog that bites them is the big mystery to me.

Vote for they guy that threatens your existence. He says, I want your vote, but nothing else. I'll take the rest.

I have always been curious what was behind the skirts. When they were shirting the issues, especially. You know I quit listening to Rush, and right away they report that his numbers dropped about a quarter. So either there were four of us or the other missed my pithy comments more than I thought. And I never said "slut": once.

You know I was blaming it all on ALEC but it turns out there are 3 or 4 so called (that's phrase I learned from the (R)epelicant's) think tanks that are pushing the ideas.

I had missed the fact you mention, but I do lead a sheltered life. Strange, I have a nose for treason, rather than a taste.

What is worse - no one looked at the history of the region and the multitude of never ending conflicts and the failure of other modern armies. They did not look and see that this was another Vietnam with no possibility to recognize who was the enemy.

What is truly sad is they are still thinking in the same vein.

The trolls ? Yeah they should have been slammed relentlessly from day 1. They would never have had a different attitude they are here to do what they can to support the status-quo.

One can only hope that they will have an awakening of a personal nature.

It's just one tactic in their arsenal of cheating to win, playing to a lot of newbies who don't know better. Let's here all the good policies of the Republicons?? Making sure Billionaires like Buffet pay as little taxes as possible!!

You are saying that ABC reported that Dems voted the Buffet Rule down and the Cons voted for it? Cuz ABC provides the news breaks on the formerly Air America Radio Prog-Talk and on my radio they are saying the opposite, repeatedly. Like I said, newbie, trust me, there's no need for me to make stuff up. There's an overwhelming plethora of truth to make my cases. You've just proven a good portion of your problem.

This may not really apply to you MH, I had trouble understanding your reply and it sounded like many I have yet to address.

Let me know what your perfect politicians are doing in the perfect congress on planet Perfection. Will ya?

Meanwhile, on Earth, in America, we have a dumb and lazy electorate, by design, who have let real scoundrels, known mostly as Republicons, cause real damage that makes everybody look bad and takes forever to fix.

Reality, like democracy, is messy and imperfect. What sort of system of government do you have on planet Perfection??

Just went to the website, looks like its good stuff. Republicans calling this Buffet rule a job killer is nonsense. It would hardly be a drop in the bucket, in regards to closing the spending gap. I personally think the Republicans should just sign onto it, it will be just one more piece of nonsense in a 76,000 book that everyone will lobby around anyways.

But the masses will feel better, and to a certain extent, that is what politics is these days.

Updated Report Documents Intensified Influence of American Legislative Exchange Council and its Out-of-State Corporate Donors

PHOENIX -- Legislators in Arizona continue to advance extremist legislation inspired by the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) and its out-of-state corporate backers, according to a new analysis by People For the American Way Foundation, Common Cause, the Center for Media and Democracy and Progress Now. This report shines a new light on the Arizona Legislature’s unprecedented ties to the secretive organization, which recently drew nationwide fire for its role in implementing radical policies across the country like “Shoot First” laws and voter suppression laws, and anti-worker measures. ALEC’s extreme agenda has recently led companies such as Pepsi, Coca-Cola, McDonalds, Wendy’s, KRAFT and Intuit to withdraw from the organization. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation on Monday also withdrew its support from ALEC.

The comprehensive report found that Arizona’s large concentration of ALEC-member legislators, working hand-in-hand with the corporate leaders who make up ALEC’s membership, are continuing to endorse special interest legislation that harms ordinary people by limiting consumers’ rights, privatizing education and dismantling unions.

The report, ALEC in Arizona: The Voice of Corporate Special Interests in the Halls of Arizona’s Legislature, updated for the Fiftieth Legislature, second regular session is available here.

“Recent polling shows that Arizonans are appalled by the out-of-touch and extremist agenda at their State Legislature. This report shows that agenda is no accident,” said John Loredo, a member of Arizona Working Families and a former Arizona House Minority Leader. “Unfortunately, Arizona has one of the highest concentrations of ALEC legislators in the country, and that makes us a petri dish for anti-worker legislation and a host of other bad ideas.”

“ALEC-member legislators are unabashedly continuing to push legislation straight from corporate headquarters to Arizona’s lawbooks,” said Marge Baker, Executive Vice President at People For the American Way Foundation. “Well-heeled special interests are circumventing the democratic system and bypassing Arizona’s citizens, who can’t match the level of access that ALEC provides. As a result, Arizonans are facing an endless assault from laws that serve the interests of the rich and powerful instead of everyday people.”

“The more Arizonans learn about ALEC, its agenda, and its tactics in advancing that agenda, the more they wonder why their elected representatives and leading corporate citizens would be associated with such an organization,” said Bob Edgar, president of Common Cause. “No business has a legitimate interest in limiting the right to vote or in undermining public education; no legislator can reasonably defend laws that protect the manufacturers of dangerous or defective products. In embracing ALEC, lawmakers and business people embrace these and other policies that betray the public interest.”

"ALEC' state chair, Rep. Debbie Lesko, has claimed she gives equal access to ALEC corporation as Arizona citizens about changing the law, but this report shows how special interests outside of Arizona are crafting massive changes to the rights of state citizens behind closed doors," said Lisa Graves, Executive Director of the Center for Media and Democracy/ALECexposed.org, adding "Public records also document that Rep. Lesko raises funds from ALEC corporations to distribute to ALEC legislators that help advance ALEC's agenda so they can go on resort trips where politicians secretly vote on model bills such as these with corporate lobbyists voting as equals. This is distorting the law in ways that harm Arizona families and should be stopped."

The updated report demonstrates the scope of ALEC’s policymaking influence with a side-by-side comparison of ALEC “model bills” with recently-submitted Arizona legislation, including:

• Anti-worker legislation designed to limit the freedom of public employees to voice their views by making it more difficult to collect professional association and union dues and blocking members from participating in professional association and union functions;

• Bills that make it easier for corporations to get away with wrongdoing and restricting consumers’ ability to seek justice in a court of law; and

• Attacks on public education by replacing real teachers with private, for profit, “virtual classrooms.”

ALEC Exposed, a project of the Center for Media and Democracy, has uncovered and analyzed approximately 800 ALEC “model” bills secretly voted on by corporations and politicians in an effort to reveal the undue influence major corporations hold, with the help of ALEC, in our democracy. Click here for more information.

I did I think may have been there already, seems we beat the worms back down into their holes for a bit, if you saw my response, hide nothing "bring it on" ooops am I becoming Bush, well war will do that to ya......

Paid or not, GypsyKing, DKAtoday, Factsrfun, JIFFYSQUID92, shooz, bensdad, VQkag, beautifulworld and others here are pro-regime propagandists. The real proof lies in simply following their postings. But there are thousands of them, and more keep coming every day. So generally speaking, here are the key points to note:

Their overall aim is to co-opt Occupy Movement protesters and supporters into the Democratic Party. They do that by giving the Republican Party the blame for everything that is wrong, and giving the credit for what little might be right to the Democratic Party. They do that by ignoring irrefutable proof that the Democratic Party is controlled by the same corporate fascist elite that controls the Republican Party. They do that by claiming that OWS could somehow magically co-opt the Democratic Party, ignoring irrefutable proof that cannot be done. They do that saying we should support Democrats because they are "not as bad" as Republicans, as if once again voting for the lesser of two evils would actually change anything. They do that by focusing on social and other wedge issues that divide us, while ignoring the issues that unite us: They refuse to acknowledge that what the Republicans and Democrats agree on is far more damaging and dangerous than what they disagree on. They do that by ignoring irrefutable proof that the two major parties are merely the puppets on the Left hand and puppets on the Right hand of the same ruling elite. They do that by claiming anyone who disagrees with them is a "Republican, Repelican, RepubliCON or Koch Whore" and either a "coward, blind marcher, zombie or troll". And no matter how many times you call them out or correct them, no matter how clearly you lay the facts down in front of them, they go right on posting the same "Get out the vote (for Obama)!" propaganda day in and day out.

And curiously, no matter how viciously or often they insult their detractors, they never get banned or even shadow-banned. Yet that will likely happen to me now just for posting this obvious truth. That's already happened more than once:

I felt compelled to create the account because you are clearly a Democrat Operative or possibly a NeoCon trying to pose like a Democrat. Either way people clearly see you for what you are, a TROLL trying to get everyone off message/target with your political BS. As a reminder this site is NOT about political campaigns and your constant promotion of politics is tiresome.

This fact is neither party in as a good choice. Why do you think we have a movement now in the first place?

JiffySquid92, everything I read your cut and paste jobs comments I think to myself TROLL ALERT as you are fond of saying to people who don't agree with you or call you out on your BS. Just sayin'

You have been honored - the blind marchers fear your voice. So they attack you and try to parody. As they are doing to others who make sense and have a strong voice in support of what is right and good.

It goes there's this battalion marching down the road to take out their enemy (funnier if you fill in ethnic of your choice), when they see one of them pop up from behind cover and run over the hill, the general tells his up and coming captain take a company of men and go kill or capture, captain says aye aye. They take off over the hill and there's an awful ruckus, shooting bombs going off, then one battered survivor crawls back to the general, He asks, what happened? Soldier says, there were two of them.

Meeting with your tax attorney to discuss opening new offshore tax evading accounts is not a day's work. Mrs. Romney wouldn't/couldn't last one day of work my mom or my wife worked while taking care (without servants) of two children!

RepubliCon Troll, here is a partial expose of the RepubliCon's disgusting war on women, and more reasons we should all Vote in November to shut the door on democracy and America-hating RepubliCons infecting our government everywhere!!!

9 New Laws in the GOP's War Against Women
Shaming women is more important to Republicans than tackling the economic crisis or any of the myriad problems facing Americans. The consequences for women's health are dire.
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Republicans sure have interesting priorities. Even though they got elected on a fiscal agenda and arrived in legislatures and congress with a budget crisis and a nation staring down unemployment, they’ve decided to put policing women’s bodies on the top of their agenda. You’ve probably heard about the unbelievably dismal new bill in Congress which would drastically curb abortion coverage and most alarmingly, redefine rape as only “forcible.” It’s cruel and draconian, to say the least, and on twitter, the #Dearjohn hashtag is building momentum against this horrible bill.

But this bill is not a stand-alone attack--in fact, it’s part of a broad-reaching movement from state legislatures to curb abortion access and insurance coverage, place hurdles before and infantilize women with ultrasound and parental notification requirements, and generally prove that shaming women is much more important to Republicans than tackling the economic crisis or any of the myriad other problems facing Americans today.

All across the country, legislatures are moving abortion restrictions forward on the docket, and although there are a few bright spots, overall the picture is pretty grim. Even the New York Times editorial board is up in arms after its own paper’s story on the subject, offering us some frightening statistics:

Twenty-nine governors are considered solidly anti-abortion, up from 21 before the election. In 15 states, both the legislature and the governor are anti-abortion, compared with 10 last year. This math greatly increases the prospect of extreme efforts to undermine abortion access with Big Brother measures that require physicians to read scripts about fetal development and provide ultrasound images, and that impose mandatory waiting periods or create other unnecessary regulations.

The following pieces of legislation are not the only efforts that could quash women’s rights this year, but they are indicative of a bold, cruel and determined Republican-led movement happening across the country. If successful, these laws will make it unimaginably more difficult for women to access basic health care.

In Kansas: Republican state Rep. Lance Kinzer introduced a bill this month that would require women under the age of 18 to receive the explicit consent of both her parents before seeking an abortion. Exceptions will only be made in cases where “family sexual abuse is involved,” and even then women will need the approval of one parent, according to the Kansas Reporter. The bill’s supporters cite false and misleading data about how young women who have abortions are more likely to have mental health issues than those who carry their pregnancies to term -- when in fact, the exact opposite is true.

What’s more, the Times reports that Kansas’ new governor, former Sen. Sam Brownback, plans to lead the state legislature in adopting measures that were previously vetoed by his less conservative successors, “including regulations that will make it harder to open abortion clinics or to perform abortions in the second trimester.”

In Texas: Governor Rick Perry has declared that a bill which mandates that women seeking abortions undergo forced ultrasounds is an “emergency” priority--literally. He’s actually hinted to anti-choicers in the state that he’ll put the bill on an actual emergency fast-track for passage, even though the state is facing a huge budget crisis of epic proportions. And he’s doing this even though he’s previously threatened to secede due to excessive government oversight of his state. Apparently oversight of states is not okay, but oversight of women’s bodies is. Hypocrite, much?

Plus there's no tie in to Soros. The NWO shading was a nice touch though. I did hear from somewhere that the cookies were made from actual girl scouts too. That could be worth a Druid tie in, with a little witch craft on the side.

If you're gonna weave a tangled web, you might as well go all the way.

There's nothing more sinister than women taking an interest in girls. That should be left to the Mullahs.

A "war on women"?. While women throughout the world are facing true suffering, discrimination and violence, the left in America thinks that stopping the government from providing free abortions and free contraception is somehow a war. Pathetic and divisive.

I know! What is with these Cons? Why are they such nasty little shits toward We The People and now Women??

I guess if some poor third world man or women or child is doing poorly, nobody else can complain about their circumstances. Of course Wall Street was sure whining when they gambled our money away so thoroughly it almost cost them their bonuses, thank god we saved them from that horrifying tragedy with untold $trillions, no questions asked.

I guess the truth is that to Republicons We The People are just a nuisance. Cons are busy taking care of their 1% Plutocrat Kings. We should just shut up and be thankful we don't live like third world people do. They don't even have bridges to sleep under there. Health care? What a joke!!!

Maybe you are too dumb or blind to see, but the Dems helped bail out Wall Street just like the Reps. The Dems want to force you to give money to insurance companies rather than provide health care for all through a single payer system. Your blind partisanship proves what a useful idiot you truly are. You can't even see that both sides has played the people against the people in order to keep their wealth and power. Keep voting for the same people and keep crying while nothing changes.

When your Vote is squandered because you fell for the both parties are bad Con con-job, you will be doing just what the Cons want!

See Cons serve their 1% Plutocrat Kings, just as they did the King of England. This democracy experiment for The People scares them. Because we neglected our system, Cons corrupted it, and made it anti-democratic. Now anyone, Dem or Indie or Con, who wants to participate has to appease the money men if they hope to succeed. We have to change that, and the first step is to get the Cons out, then the money.

Are Dems perfect? NO! But they generally believe in democracy and government that serves the people. This makes them a lesser evil. Keep voting for them and it will evolve into a good choice. Cons hate democracy and The People and only serve their Plutocratic 1% Kings. They like their Authoritarianism. This makes them plain evil. Keep letting them win and we will have Kings

We have a lot of work to do. Our negligence has caused a lot of damage!

It is because people keep voting for the same old same old that they evolved into what they are today. When the truly uninformed and uninspired keep voting down the same party line year after year, there is no incentive for either party to all of a sudden change and start working for the people. There is no incentive in it. Why should the Dems any more than the Reps truly work for you or I when they already have a strong enough base of idiots that will vote for a party over a person? The Dems can just keep lying and serving their pay masters, but they have no worries because there will always be people like JIFFYSQUID92 to vote for them no matter what they do because of some distorted belief that they are supporting the lesser evil that may one day (contrary to all evidence) change their evil ways. Pathetic.

Both parties are not the same, a very simple web search proves this, so do open eyes and ears. You're one of them. Anarchy only serves the powers that want to remove the people factor. Unity is the answer.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Living in poverty ( if what you say is to be believed in this regard ) would have provided you with a much better education on the realities we face. You are a liar or you need a keeper.