Expressed concerns over the scope of work that the vendors are performing with employees in the HES program, work relating to the combustion testing of fossil fuel heating appliances. - Home Energy Pros2016-12-09T17:59:30Zhttp://homeenergypros.lbl.gov/forum/topics/expressed-concerns-over-the?xg_source=activity&id=6069565%3ATopic%3A38446&feed=yes&xn_auth=noMr. Dunseith,
At the meeting…tag:homeenergypros.lbl.gov,2011-05-24:6069565:Comment:397032011-05-24T00:27:40.017ZGary Baggetthttp://homeenergypros.lbl.gov/profile/GaryBaggett
<p>Mr. Dunseith,</p>
<p>At the meeting today in Hartford, things were a little confusing. UI and CL&amp;P tried selling the board on letting HES vendors drill and test for "CO" levels, not stating that we test for draft and efficiency. When asked the question, they said "no, were not testing that". I couldn't believe it. They then asked if the technicians did a "smoke" test on oil units, and the guy from UI said "yeah, we test spillage"...not knowing what a smoke test was. The board decided to…</p>
<p>Mr. Dunseith,</p>
<p>At the meeting today in Hartford, things were a little confusing. UI and CL&amp;P tried selling the board on letting HES vendors drill and test for "CO" levels, not stating that we test for draft and efficiency. When asked the question, they said "no, were not testing that". I couldn't believe it. They then asked if the technicians did a "smoke" test on oil units, and the guy from UI said "yeah, we test spillage"...not knowing what a smoke test was. The board decided to not rule on this yet and have the states lawyers look over the wording of the CT General Status which the board believes to mean that only licensed HVAC or oil burner technicians can actually do the "combustion testing". The next meeting is in July and I will do my homeowrk before then and pass along information. Certain states are ammending procedures so this testing can be done by others, so I'll try to pass along that information. I'll keep you updated.</p> The fox has been minding the…tag:homeenergypros.lbl.gov,2011-05-23:6069565:Comment:394202011-05-23T01:22:50.419ZWilliam H Nickersonhttp://homeenergypros.lbl.gov/profile/WilliamHNickerson
The fox has been minding the hen house.Thats why we got into thing in the first place.
The fox has been minding the hen house.Thats why we got into thing in the first place. John, I just checked on BPI's…tag:homeenergypros.lbl.gov,2011-05-20:6069565:Comment:393022011-05-20T16:23:11.131ZGary Baggetthttp://homeenergypros.lbl.gov/profile/GaryBaggett
John, I just checked on BPI's website, and your company is an Accredited Contractor. You may want to go to BPI's website and download the polocies and procedures that Green Star should be following as an Accreditied Contractor. If I can help you with any information, just let me know. We need to be the elite in this or any other state as BPI Accredited Contractors and miss information is what will get those in trouble if not paying attention and will also give a bad reputation to the name of…
John, I just checked on BPI's website, and your company is an Accredited Contractor. You may want to go to BPI's website and download the polocies and procedures that Green Star should be following as an Accreditied Contractor. If I can help you with any information, just let me know. We need to be the elite in this or any other state as BPI Accredited Contractors and miss information is what will get those in trouble if not paying attention and will also give a bad reputation to the name of BPI and the status of "Accredited Contractor". If you go to BPI's home page and click on "Documents" on the upper bar, then click on "policies and procedures". From there click on "BPI Accreditation Policies and Procedures" which will bring you to a 17 page document that someone in your company must have read and signed. Please make yourself aware of your obligations as an Accreditied Contractor so that we keep this status in good standing with both consumers and program implimenters within the state. John M, I hate to say it but…tag:homeenergypros.lbl.gov,2011-05-20:6069565:Comment:393012011-05-20T15:37:20.978ZGary Baggetthttp://homeenergypros.lbl.gov/profile/GaryBaggett
<p>John M, I hate to say it but that is not accurate. If you are an Accredited Contractor, no matter what "programs" you are running, you are bound to a contract that you signed with BPI. This is an accurate depiction of the bigger problem.</p>
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<p>John M, I hate to say it but that is not accurate. If you are an Accredited Contractor, no matter what "programs" you are running, you are bound to a contract that you signed with BPI. This is an accurate depiction of the bigger problem.</p>
<p> </p> Here in Maine we are required…tag:homeenergypros.lbl.gov,2011-05-20:6069565:Comment:390482011-05-20T13:29:36.772ZJim Peckhttp://homeenergypros.lbl.gov/profile/JimPeck646
<p>Here in Maine we are required by the State to hold Licensure in both Oil and Gas in order to perform Caz testing. These limited technician licenses allow for testing procedures only and adhere to strict protocol.</p>
<p>Fortunately for us, many BPI Analysts had the benefit of being taught by the estimable Senor Karg. Safety of all concerned was the over riding factor.</p>
<p>We at Maintenance Men have chosen to turn down several Retrofit opportunities due to safety issues investment…</p>
<p>Here in Maine we are required by the State to hold Licensure in both Oil and Gas in order to perform Caz testing. These limited technician licenses allow for testing procedures only and adhere to strict protocol.</p>
<p>Fortunately for us, many BPI Analysts had the benefit of being taught by the estimable Senor Karg. Safety of all concerned was the over riding factor.</p>
<p>We at Maintenance Men have chosen to turn down several Retrofit opportunities due to safety issues investment property owners refused to correct. </p>
<p>We hold several BPI and other Certifications. The ethics and knowledge of the inspector is far more important to training than certificate. It is one thing to pass an exam, it is another to be able to conceptualize, retain and actualize the information infield conditions. CAZ testing is critical but, with all things, it takes practice. It needs to be done in a variety of circumstance but in a consistent manner. Adhering to a strict set of protocols is essential. An hour of training in no way prepares someone for what they encounter in the field.</p> John,
I dont know where you g…tag:homeenergypros.lbl.gov,2011-05-20:6069565:Comment:389832011-05-20T04:07:39.917ZMichael Dunseithhttp://homeenergypros.lbl.gov/profile/MichaelDunseith
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<p>I dont know where you got that from but, you better check your BPI policy and procedures manual. you are now BPI trainined to know better. Just because your working in a differant program or under a different desigation (HERS,WAP etc) doesnt mean you can now look the other way.</p>
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<p>I dont know where you got that from but, you better check your BPI policy and procedures manual. you are now BPI trainined to know better. Just because your working in a differant program or under a different desigation (HERS,WAP etc) doesnt mean you can now look the other way.</p>
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<font face="Georgia"><font face="Georgia" size="2"><font face="Georgia" size="2">– An entity that <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>complies</em></span> with certain requirements set by BPI that is intended to <font face="Georgia" size="2"><font face="Georgia" size="2">enhance the delivery of consistent, quality focused building performance services.</font></font></font></font></font> Don't forget BPI guidelines o…tag:homeenergypros.lbl.gov,2011-05-20:6069565:Comment:389822011-05-20T02:14:27.313ZJohn Mhttp://homeenergypros.lbl.gov/profile/JohnM
<p>Don't forget BPI guidelines only appiy to the Comprehensive Home Assesement, or CHA, which is part of the Home Performance with Energy Star program, a performance based program which mandates a full energy model with test in / test out. WAP, HES, Home TuneUp, HERS ratings, etc. aren't HPwES so BPI doesn't apply. </p>
<p>Don't forget BPI guidelines only appiy to the Comprehensive Home Assesement, or CHA, which is part of the Home Performance with Energy Star program, a performance based program which mandates a full energy model with test in / test out. WAP, HES, Home TuneUp, HERS ratings, etc. aren't HPwES so BPI doesn't apply. </p>
Thanks for posting this. Ve…tag:homeenergypros.lbl.gov,2011-05-20:6069565:Comment:388992011-05-20T01:46:05.788ZMike Gillulyhttp://homeenergypros.lbl.gov/profile/MGilluly
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<p>Thanks for posting this. Very Interesting, A large number of oil systems have test holes in flues already, 95% otherwise try to get probe down into undiluted gases.</p>
<p> Yes, Theres been ongoing concern re air sealing and combustion safety by HES vendors.</p>
<p> WX audits dont require CAZ or worst case, only combusiton analysis and draft.</p>
<p>The state doesnt allow air sealing when CFM50 is under 2000. (thats debatable b/c of BPI standards)</p>
<p>Last week through DSS, we…</p>
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<p>Thanks for posting this. Very Interesting, A large number of oil systems have test holes in flues already, 95% otherwise try to get probe down into undiluted gases.</p>
<p> Yes, Theres been ongoing concern re air sealing and combustion safety by HES vendors.</p>
<p> WX audits dont require CAZ or worst case, only combusiton analysis and draft.</p>
<p>The state doesnt allow air sealing when CFM50 is under 2000. (thats debatable b/c of BPI standards)</p>
<p>Last week through DSS, we were very fortuanate to have Pure Energy Coach come up to conduct training on air sealing and combustion safety specifically. One of my comments to an associate was that HES vendors and oil contractors should've been present...the training was extremely valuable. We see and hear first hand what oil guys are do to peoples heating systems and rarley provide actual combusition gas results with a CTT.</p>
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<p>I'm gonna give you a call tomorrow. I'd like to attend the hearing.</p>
<p> </p> I have to find bifocals to re…tag:homeenergypros.lbl.gov,2011-05-19:6069565:Comment:389762011-05-19T19:30:37.321ZGary Baggetthttp://homeenergypros.lbl.gov/profile/GaryBaggett
I have to find bifocals to read what your saying...what happened to your font size? All joking aside, you couldn't be any more correct Mike!
I have to find bifocals to read what your saying...what happened to your font size? All joking aside, you couldn't be any more correct Mike!
One thing to remember, a on…tag:homeenergypros.lbl.gov,2011-05-19:6069565:Comment:390412011-05-19T19:26:40.250ZMichael Dunseithhttp://homeenergypros.lbl.gov/profile/MichaelDunseith
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<p><span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black; font-size: 7.5pt;">One thing to remember, a one week course some times less doesn’t make anyone an expert. Its basic knowledge!</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black; font-size: 7.5pt;">BPI promotes working within your limits of professional competency. If you don’t know what you’re doing – Please, DON'T DO IT!…</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black; font-size: 7.5pt;">One thing to remember, a one week course some times less doesn’t make anyone an expert. Its basic knowledge!</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black; font-size: 7.5pt;">BPI promotes working within your limits of professional competency. If you don’t know what you’re doing – Please, DON'T DO IT!</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black; font-size: 7.5pt;">And just because it’s on YouTube doesn’t mean its right!</span></p>