There's one thing that really gets me! Pls explain guys, if your service with AT&T is so bad to the point that your phone is not reliable then why even bother with the iPhone?

Don't get me wrong I love my iPhone but if AT&T was so bad in my area I would just go with another company and get their next best smart phone rather than complain about it

...i agree with you, its common since. people think wat their getting is so good tht when they get it and see it has a lot of bad quality they whine and complain. personally i like my iphone i got no problem with AT&T no sneaky add ons to my payment so far. hey if they treat me fairly i got no problems with em. all the people tht complain should just go to a new phone service and buy their top of the line smart phone DUH!!!:P

Damn. This is like an article in the people magazine. We all know AT&T is suck. Apple is staying with them for a reason. Verizon is on CDMA. Since the rest of the world is gsm. Do the math. The verizon iPhone is still remains to be seen. Apple have to make a new set of iphone that only work in the us and canada market. I hope the price of iPhone remain reasonable.

LOL SUITS, this is just another article blown out of proportion. Alot of money involved even more made, ofcourse theres going to be conflict and if Apple does slide on over to Verizon now the dramas going to get worst due to verizon being so darn stubborn I mean hell have you ever called customer service.

Its ATT's fault... They bit off more than they can chew... Whooo look at us T-mobile, Verizon, Sprint, we got the iphone... But you cant do half the crap with it because we are still working out of our trailer home... We will just chock our iPhone customers charge them more and perhaps in five years we will update our system and stop lying about our coverage area....

Yes I have ATT. But it seems like as each day goes buy they get ruder and more expensive. Reminds me of the 1st golf war when they were the only kids on the block in Saudi and they were charging and ripping off military members... Hope I am wrong but looks like they will never change their business model...

I really don't see the issue with exclusivity. It's something that's been around forever and I don't see people up in arms for not being able to get an EVO or Droid X in AT&T.

^Yeah that.

Originally Posted by love2drive2fast

It's not like Apple really had a choice but to choose AT&T ... they picked them because it was the best business decision they could make (other then opening up the phone to all carriers). In an exclusive arrangement (though I'm not sure what the benefit is of that ... I'm assuming $ from AT&T), they were truthfully the only carrier that could come close to handling the volume of iPhone customers at the time (and possibly even now) ... and not limit the functionality of the phone.

I've had AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint, and the reality is, that no network is as good as they would have you believe. I've never had T-Mobile, though I have several friends that do, and they like them ... but there service doesn't seem to be any more reliable than mine. I really don't think either Sprint (who I've never had very good luck with ... but maybe that was just my experience), or T-Mobile could handle the extra volume. And for all the clamor over Verizon and their network, I don't see them being any better than AT&T, if they had the extra volume that AT&T does, due to the iPhone.

The main problem with Verizon, is the CDMA network, and not being able to do voice and data at the same time. To some people this may not seem like a big deal ... but it's something a lot of us take for granted. I know I use this a LOT, for both personal and business ... being able to be on a call, and get a map / directions, check a website for something, or discuss an email I just sent / received, or any number of different things ... this is a pretty big deal to me. Of course I could live without it ... we all could ... and did, until very recently ... but once you have it ... it's hard to go back.

I'm not a huge Apple fan (the iPhone is the only product I've ever owned from them), nor am I a huge fan of AT&T (or any other service provider) ... but I LOVE the capabilities of my iPhone, and have never had any real problems with AT&T. Considering everything I can do with it, and how much easier it makes my daily life ... to me it would be a bargain at twice the price.

But can remember the days before PCs, cell phones, and the internet. When a box of 5 1/4 floppy disks cost almost as much as an iPhone does now, and a 10mb (NOT gb) hard drive cost me a whole weeks pay ... lol.

The bottom line is ... we're all spoiled ... we take a lot for granted ... and mostly don't really appreciate how good we actually have it.

I'm thankful I'm alive and healthy, that the sun is shining ... and that I have a job to pay for my toys ... and I wish the same for everyone else.

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Didn't Apple initially court Verizon for the iPhone. Thought that's how the story went but Verizon had too many demands in order for the deal to happen so Apple flipped them the bird and then courted AT&T and did the deal with them. As far as the exclusivity, don't doubt for a second that Apple wasn't all for it themselves. That's part of their image, exclusive, only the best and so on. Initially they spoke very highly of AT&T when the iPhone launched, the largest and best GSM provider in the states. I think Apple has finally realized that they could make even more money if they built the iphone for Verizon as well and there is probably a little of that "the grass is always greener" going on.

To the member who talked about Verizon being CDMA, don't know if you've ready or not (I'm guessing not) but Verizon is rolling out 4G this coming January. There was an article on MSN (I think it was MSN) talking about it, they are on track and should have it in 30 major cities by the begining of 2011. I welcome Verizon getting it; hopefully a bunch of people will switch and take some of the load off of AT&T's network. Oh, that's another thing. People talk about how crappy AT&T's network is, look at how many frickin' people are on it! I don't think anyone had any clue as of to how popular the iPhone would become; any carrier's network would suffer trying to keep up with the iPhone. When the article came out about the new data pricing, there were several people talking about how they would consume anywhere from 10-17GB of data per month... that's nuts! Crap like that is what contributes AT&T's network being bogged down. Yes I know you pay for unlimited data so you can do what ever you want but it gets to a point where you are abusing it just because you can.

Apple approached Verizon first, yes. Verizon said no on two issues: unlimited data plan, visual voicemail. So Apple went with numero dos, AT&T.

For those wondering, the reason visual voicemail was such an issue back then is because it was completely different from how networks handled voicemails at the time which meant certain changes had to be made to the entire network in order to accommodate this new way of delivering voicemails to (at the time) one device. Verizon didn't want to put up that effort.

Its ATT's fault... They bit off more than they can chew... Whooo look at us T-mobile, Verizon, Sprint, we got the iphone... But you cant do half the crap with it because we are still working out of our trailer home... We will just chock our iPhone customers charge them more and perhaps in five years we will update our system and stop lying about our coverage area....

Yes I have ATT. But it seems like as each day goes buy they get ruder and more expensive. Reminds me of the 1st golf war when they were the only kids on the block in Saudi and they were charging and ripping off military members... Hope I am wrong but looks like they will never change their business model...

Your arguments are the opposite of the truth. AT&T has broadened their 3G service significantly and their voice/data packages have lowered as well. Apparently you have no idea what type of hurdles one must overcome to expand a network. They can't just wave a wand. How many square miles is the U.S.? It won't happen overnight. I have tried Verizon with their 'superior' 3G. It was dismal. A fast Edge speed at best. I know this is all based on location, but the bottom line is that AT&T are doing very well supporting the iPhone. ANY network would buckle.

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Totally agree.in my country,Blackberry is sold by specific carriers.but iPhone is not available officially.we all use unlocked iPhones.monthly data package is 5times cheaper for iPhone than Blackberry,mainly because iPhone is not tied to a specific carrier.

Your arguments are the opposite of the truth. AT&T has broadened their 3G service significantly and their voice/data packages have lowered as well. Apparently you have no idea what type of hurdles one must overcome to expand a network. They can't just wave a wand. How many square miles is the U.S.? It won't happen overnight. I have tried Verizon with their 'superior' 3G. It was dismal. A fast Edge speed at best. I know this is all based on location, but the bottom line is that AT&T are doing very well supporting the iPhone. ANY network would buckle.

Your arguments are the opposite of the truth. AT&T has broadened their 3G service significantly and their voice/data packages have lowered as well. Apparently you have no idea what type of hurdles one must overcome to expand a network. They can't just wave a wand. How many square miles is the U.S.? It won't happen overnight. I have tried Verizon with their 'superior' 3G. It was dismal. A fast Edge speed at best. I know this is all based on location, but the bottom line is that AT&T are doing very well supporting the iPhone. ANY network would buckle.

Well I can't speak for Verizon but I have used the iPhone overseas on orange and tmobile. Their network seems to offer lower and better service that supports the iPhone. As far as networks you are correct I am no expert. My complaint is for my area and venting with my past experiences with ATT. As I stated in my original post. But I do agree it's all about location but they do exagorate (as I'm sure all do) about their coverage. In addition ATT made it right for me today. They gave me a free microcell and service. Now our ATT service is usable. And for the record my bill from them is the same as it has been for a couple of yrs now. No change of course I need the unlimited plan.

More Networks = More iDevices sold = Steve Jobs gets to show his *** to Bill Gates.

I don't understand why they don't just make it for all networks?
I have T-Mobile and iPhone 3GS, It's all good, but it'd be helpful if they make it public

LOL if you think steve jobs will EVER EVER EVER have as much money as bill gates you are one delusional person.

Originally Posted by Shishir G

More Networks = More iDevices sold = Steve Jobs gets to show his *** to Bill Gates.

I don't understand why they don't just make it for all networks?
I have T-Mobile and iPhone 3GS, It's all good, but it'd be helpful if they make it public

no it doesn't work like that. It's called making a deal. Im sure apple met with verizon. ATT paid apple to be able to carry their phone. ATT's deal must have been alot better than the next companies therefore they got the phone. It's all about money and money talks

take NFL Sunday Ticket

You can say why doesn't NFL just let all cable/sat carriers carry their sunday ticket. More carriers more subscribers. Well it's simple Directv pays the nfl BILLIONS of dollar to have it exclusively on their programming. Therefore if you want sunday tickets, as millions of fans order yearly, you have to go to directv.