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I wonder if the FR-501 on Ebay is the same frame mentioned in the Help Patrick name his Neo cross frame thread? Probably wont be to much longer before you start seeing disc-brake specific open mold carbon cross frames on Ebay seeing as how there are now three distinct models being offered from the various Chinese vendors.

dont waste your money. if your looking for something "cheap" in carbon your going to end up w/ junk. if you want something less expensive and disc ready look into a alloy frame. or spend some money and get a ridley x fire disc

I don't want discs on my cross. There are reports of people on bikeradar,singletrackworld, roadbike review and mtbr that have has lots of these carbon frames from china without problems

i dont use disc brakes. im not dissagreeing w/ you. if you want a carbon frame there are alot of good carbon frame out there, ridley, stevens, giant, cannondale, spec to name afew.spend the money and buy a good frame w/ a good rep. your not going to get quality for nothing. thats not my rule. thats life rule. and dont go by what mag reviews say. at the shop i used to work one of the ed. (MF)for bicycling mag. used to have his bikes built there. then he'd test them. if the bikes junk he just returned the bike and says thank you. they do not write neg . reviews. ive known people that bought these frames (tt, rd, cx, mtb) they are junk. (most carbon frames are made by giant and merida, than a company puts there decals on, these are not) one more thing to remember- taiwan=good, china=not good

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