Regarding the Q, I don't really know exactly what qualifies one for ATG status but this is always how I've seen it for the last couple years; If he really hustles and takes some chances, he can get there. Then, another year goes by where he doens't even come close. THIS might be the year where he really starts making things happen but I'm not holding my breath. Hard to imagine that he's going to go into overdrive in his mid-30's.

Hell no lol i didn't see that figt or read the threads regarding it. Didnt even care for it. I honestly don't care what his hardcore fans or haters say. His resume speaks for itself and almost 100% of the ATGs did something to get there regardless if people ducked or dodged them.

I hope for him he gets his canelo payday and goes onto to career defining fights.

You become an all time great by being a great fighter in your prime with many great performances. He will be remembered by many as an all time great just from what he has already done. He doesn't need a win over a first ballet hall of fame boxer to be considered great by most fans. He had 23 KOs in a row and 17 successful world title defenses in a row. No middleweight in history had 17 title fight KO wins. That's not just pretty good or OK. That's GREAT!!!! Not everybody will agree he is an all time great. Not everybody agrees Mayweather is an all time great. The majority will consider him an all time great middleweight because he is one.

You become an all time great by being a great fighter in your prime with many great performances. He will be remembered by many as an all time great just from what he has already done. He doesn't need a win over a first ballet hall of fame boxer to be considered great by most fans. He had 23 KOs in a row and 17 successful world title defenses in a row. No middleweight in history had 17 title fight KO wins. That's not just pretty good or OK. That's GREAT!!!! Not everybody will agree he is an all time great. Not everybody agrees Mayweather is an all time great. The majority will consider him an all time great middleweight because he is one.