Like a monopoly.... New games, music, hardware won't work on the machine... Even internet (prob)... They'll cut you off. If we can find a way to bypass the system... Then hooah... Hackers been doing this shit for years, we just gotta expand. Sometimes the way to beat the system is to be in the system (an inside scource). Maybe one day someone will know and it will leak out.

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dashocker... Harry Brown was the Libertarian's Presidential Canidate last election. But the news media absolutely refuses to give him or the Libertarians any publicity, most likely due to the fact that people would like what they stand for and break the endless loop of only Republicans and Democrats holding the Presidential seat.

good words curse the same thing also happened with that one old guy bucannon he only got very little publicity and they made fun of him. he tried to attend a presidential debate in massachutes last election and they would not let him talk prolly due to the fact that the ppl would like what he had to say... but republicans and democrats are the fukin same maby the ppl apart of it do not no but they are run by the same ppl and they both have the same agenda... need to kick all these fukin morons into some place like afganastan and let the old men rape them.. well i just brought this kinda off topic. haha

tbg your right. but thats not really prevention. its intolerance. which, as frequently demonstrated by our lovely educational system, suffices only to make incredible misjustice. ph33r my vocabulary.OMG, the almighty negro, Xun0, has returned???we may never know...

who cares if it is a violation to remove the policeware... if u cant get caught. Its illegal to dl pirated software, etc. and everyone still does it. and Xun0... gore is a puss, id go for libertarian or whatever the fuck.

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God this bill pisses me off. If they pass it i'll move to another country. Its just more restrictions against us because they aren't making as much money as they "could". You'll get fined $500,000 dollars and upto 5 years in jail if your caught with copy righted materials on your system and if you remove the policeware device from your systems...you get the same fine and jail. What if OS's like Linux/Unix don't support the Policeware movement? Ohhh guess what you go to jail for running that OS....omg thats such bull shit. Thats way to extreme and it won't be passed for that reason. Stupid ass poloticians are greedy for more cash...

Originally posted by hKzKnight:LOL... do what you gotta do to survive. The government is gonna have a lot of violations... maybe they'll give up and realized it's a waste of fuckin $.

Think guys!

A waste of money? It will make money. Lets see, jail people. That means jobs, whole new agencys to trak all this... More jobs. Building new jails... More jobs. Welcome to the new war on drugs people. Difference is this time it is a war on every kid in america. Well anyone who ever downloaded an MP3.

We should start a counter culture. PIII's and below running any version of linux/BSD that has a TCP/IP stack built in. The only way to beat this is drop out of it.

Look, You are in a perpetual upgrade now. Even with Linux. To get the new kernel with the new support for your new GRFX card you upgrade right? Or to use the latest Office you need the latest Windows, wich means you might need a faster PC.

Fuck it!!!! We are now at the 2 gig mark. So P4's to PII are plenty fast for a *nix system. I mean don't load the dumbass games, one (maybe) desktop environment..... Your system will be fine.

Wana get a copy of the spyware? Write to the feds and say you are making a linux flavor and need to add the policeware to be lawful. Maybe they will give you a copy.

But the only way to beat this is to drop out of it.Policeware is now LawThe technology in palladem will be law. (congress is pushing as you read this)It will be a combo of software and hardware.Data will pass through your CPU encrypted.

Hell it will be passing to the monitor encrypted. You can't just hack this one. Unless you know how to take a CPU apart and find where this chip will be built into it take it out and put it back together. Anyone? Didn't think so.

Get a decent Machine now. Hell 486's can still run windows 98. So get a decent box. Linux or your favorite version of winblows. Mabey some spare parts while you can.

Like ram, HD, CMOS battery, and stick with what you got. Face the fact that to get the new software and hardware you lose privacy.

This technology will be embeded in

PDA'sLaptopsDigital cammerasMP3 playersect ect ect ect

Apple will be switch to intel soon to have them make their chips. Compaq makes the Alpha platform. (You can bet they will comply.)

You can not fight it. Somewhere in the evolution of this country, our economy took the front seat to our rights. I kinda support the unabomber now.

i think if they did this, as long as enough people know about the bad sides, that it would just fuck our economy. I would just give up on computers if it got bad enough, and if enough people like being able to trade free music and all that, they might too. If so many people stop getting on the internet, all those sites fall through, and computer sales go down (assuming they go up before this gets passed), and so on. Well, maybe not, I am not leet with economics.

I don't really know who I would vote for, because I haven't paid much attention to that sort of thing. I will later on though, when I get closer to being able to vote.

ah, after reading Learner's post...I don't know what to think about how it would affect our economy, will someone tell me what to think? I know I will buy alot less cd's if i can't trade music.

It's more money to build prisons, our taxes pay for the governemnt to set this shit up... If it's not a waste of money... Then it's an equal stand point, the waste and make deal. It always is. I got all sorts of old machines at my house... 486, p2 233, p2 400, p3 600, Dell Inspiron 8100 (laptop)... I'm gonna keep these... Keep them for all my old games, mp3s, burning (old burner and software there)... All run *nix 2. So the old computer idea is what I thought of at first... However we don't know for a fact that if you are caught with old technology, you will be fined etc... Also, I'd buy a new machine just to fuck around with... Curious how to take it out, what they can see... Etc... Consider this the greatest hacker generation... We truly need the skills to continue living the way we want. We can't control the people, the government, and well where we live perhaps. But I can gartunee you this... It will leak one day... It will.

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