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When i was in middle school and into rap, the roots were one of my favourite bands. Really soul-full music.

Heh, when i came into this thread i thought it was gonna be about japanese rap artists like def-row, or sorta like flo, but i guess they are more popish.

As for my matured opinion of rap. Usually it stands for everything i hate. Alot of oldschool rap was about being good at rapping, hanging out, or about nothing at all! Which was cool and fun. Now i find alot of it is just egotistic ignorance. I'm not a fan of nickelback or whoever made this song, but i love this quote: "if everyone learned and nobody lied, if everyone shared and swallowed their pride... then we'd see the day when nobody died." It's not true in entirety, but in theory and everything i hear in rap is saying "hey im better than you, and stop rapping cause this is my scene, blah blah I'm an idiot." It's all the ignorance that makes me glad im on the south side of detroit river (Canadian side).

Sorry i got carried away, but it angers me because pop appears to be in the process of being taken over by rap, which just makes japanese music that much more appealing.

the roots put out an album last year.

the dumb stuff you hear in rap is only in the mainstream. turn off mtv and the radio and there's plenty of great artists out there. you just gotta put in some effort to find them. guys like lupe fiasco or little brother are great.

in the next two years, a lot of the ignorance will be eliminated because it's no longer selling.

I've been looking for a bit and i can't seem to find too many good rap love songs. Does anybody know of any good ones?

j-live - the 4th third - this here is a great love song. it's very realistic. i think too many hip hop songs are overgeneralized. this is sincere and clearly about an actual girl. i think almost all guys can probably relate to this.

lupe fiasco - sunshine - this song is "cute". it's on lupe's food & liquor album. i mean it's the opposite of the above song, very general but it's nice and poetic. i like it better than common - the light and pharoahe monch - the light which are very similiar (haha, all 3 with similar titles). you could check those too though because they are cool.

ghostface killah - camay - this song is pretty cool. just has ghostface, capadonna and raekwon doing their hip hop love ballad thing over a haunting rza beat. it's hilarious that this and wildflower are on the same album.

methodman - all i need - you probably already know this song. this has to be the essential east coast love song.

So what are some standout hiphop albums of 2007 so far? I haven't really listened any new rap this year. Just been listening to Lupe Fiasco, Ghost Face, Subtle, a little bit of Sage and Tech n9ne lately.

Check out Cool Calm Pete and Babbletron guys. His stuff isn't exactly new but he's got some pretty cool tracks. I especially recommend Babbletron's Space Tech Banana Clip It's some hardcore nerd rap somewhat similar to MF Doom. I think you can check it out on their myspace page, thats where I stubbled across them.

Nothing really good has come out in the mainstream or underground, T.I had the potential to deliver a pretty decent mainstream album but a lot of weak tracks were on it. Help Is Coming is the easy standout track.

Common's new album has leaked on the internet, I'm going to buy it though so my opinions on it will be rather late.

not too many releases this year, but there's still time left so we'll see

if you like bcc, sean price's latest mixtape called "master p" (no relation to no limit) is pretty good. another good mixtape is royce 5'9's "bar exam". terminology also has a new mixtape out but i'm too lazy to look at it.

i haven't been into kweli for a while but i just heard half of eardrum and i think it's pretty good.

monch's desire is way too weird for me but ironically i'm feeling the canibus album which is even weirder ( @ the female news anchor, cosmonauts, and 2(!?) 400 bar songs).

This may be just a rumor but I heard Deltron 3030 is going to release Deltron Event II this year as well.

I will be a very happy man then. One of my fav rap albums of all time.

On another note IGN had an article about some 07 rap albums to check out. One of their suggestions really stood out to me, Sharkey & C-Rayz Walz are...Monster Maker. I listened to a couple tracks off their myspace and was blown away. The album doesn't come out till the 7/31 though.

Those people absolutely DO NOT DESERVE to be on that list.
50 Cent especially is absolutely whack and needs to be shot and killed.
How the living hell is Rakim not on that list? The god MC?
The only person I can almost maybe see myself agreeing with is Common.
WTF at Jim Jones at number 10?

Even though I think that list is a joke you do realize that it is talking about right now as well as from a commercial point of view? What exactly have Rakim, KRS and Kane done lately? Kool G Rap is past his prime as he got outdone by Young Chris of all people on a track lately.

I also have no idea how you can put that monotone waste of beats Guru on your list and not have Andre 3000 and Scarface. Big Punisher and no Jay-Z? You do realize if he had lived he would've been just as commercial as Jay-Z and I'll still take Reasonable Doubt over Capital Punishment even though both were classics.. no song on RD was as bad as Punish Me...

Ras Kass has been an utter disappointment since his first album, isn't he signed (or trying to be) with G-Unit now? Tonedeff has been up and coming for what the last 6 years?

And for those who like to go back a few years - Pete Rock & CL Smooth. "They Reminisce Over You" is a definate favourite.

I've always preferred them to Gangstarr, shame Pete Rock just lost it, CL Smooth really got into Pete in an interview a few years ago not long after Nas said something about him. (too scared too leave his house, is a recluse.. something like that).

2. If you're one of the skeptics to the rap genre, please, politely tell us what it is about the genre that you don't like, what you look for in a song, and what you're currently listening to so that the rap veterans have an idea as to what to aim for.

I found this post in another forum and it pretty much sums up my current opinion on rap.

Quote:

Because I have to listen to dumbass middle-upper class suburban white kids sing this;

"I ain't even gotta rap now life is made
Said I ain't even gotta rap, I'm filthy man"

Then he goes on to "laugh" straight to the bank.

What it means is this; "Hahah, I've made millions and millions of dollars from you dumbass white boys buying my shit so now I'm just rapping about how much money I have. And you'll still give me more money to listen to me make fun of you. Thank God for all the dumbasses in the world".

I honestly haven't heard any rap that was of any lyrical depth at all. (and I spent three hours a day on a bus during high school with a driver who insisted on playing hip-hop and rap) I watched the intro to Samurai Champloo and honestly broke out laughing when I heard them use the words "dove" and "tear" together in a rap song.