Lizzy Hawker has now won The North FaceUltra-Trail du Mont-Blanc four times. That’s more than anyone else, men or women. This year, she ran the course in 25:02, just four minutes off Krissy Moehl’s women’s course record. That alone will have her back to run next year’s tenth UTMB.

In the following interview, she talks about overcoming hip pain at mile 70 to win the race, why she’ll be back next year, and what she’s up to next.