I myself liked the first one best. But still you have to agree that all of these pics are better than the one used by wookieepedia._________________"Strong you are with the dark side, young one. But not that strong.
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Just realised, the first one kinda looks like a really messed up Dolly Parton!_________________There's always a bigger fish - Qui Gon Jinn.

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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:32 pm

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Anything is better than the one used by wookiepedia.

Personally I kind of thought that this could have been a seriously evil looking villain from the description. I kind of hope we get more concept art on her in the future._________________Perfection is a lifelong pursuit requiring sacrifice. The only way to get it quicker is to sacrifice the most.

Those drawnings are definately alot better than the one on wookieepedia.

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:19 pm

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Ok, after Apocalypse...

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Abeloth had the potential to be one of the best characters in the EU. Too bad jamming all that info into the last book kinda spoiled it. It'll have to be taken lightly for awhile. No matter what this won't be a quite sort-out. None of the last 5 years or so of SW series will be. Abeloth could have been perfect.

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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:11 pm

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Well since i started this thread I thought I would say more since I finished Apocalypse yesterday. Not to spoil anything but I wasn't let down in certain ways. Thats all I'm saying. Great book though._________________
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:13 am

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Personally, I like what they did with Abeloth.

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I didn't even like the Mortis Trilogy episodes in TCW, but I liked how Denning incorporated them into Apocalypse. I thought it worked well. But I guess it's not everyone's cup of tea.

To me, tying the Mortis characters to the Celestials and then back to Abeloth made sense, and Denning left a lot of wiggle room for the details to be left to interpretation. Remember, the Killiks memories are shared things that assimilate myths as well as facts. And just because Luke thinks something doesn't mean he's right. It certainly wouldn't be the first time he's been wrong.

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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:30 am

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Oh I enjoyed it Skuls, I merely think it felt a little forced. Denning found out about some of this (according to the interview anyway) around the time they were working on Conviction. This means that during the last arc of this series he was working on it but the other 2 chose not to. I personally thought it could have been built up a bit more in that ending trilogy and then brought to a head in Apocalypse because to me it felt tacked on to include it in the last half of the last book. But don't get me wrong, I REALLY thought the concept was awesome! I think it perfectly fit Abeloth and its one of the first EU ties to the show I've thoroughly found exciting._________________Perfection is a lifelong pursuit requiring sacrifice. The only way to get it quicker is to sacrifice the most.

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:07 pm

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Darth Skuldren wrote:

Personally, I like what they did with Abeloth.

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I didn't even like the Mortis Trilogy episodes in TCW, but I liked how Denning incorporated them into Apocalypse. I thought it worked well. But I guess it's not everyone's cup of tea.

To me, tying the Mortis characters to the Celestials and then back to Abeloth made sense, and Denning left a lot of wiggle room for the details to be left to interpretation. Remember, the Killiks memories are shared things that assimilate myths as well as facts. And just because Luke thinks something doesn't mean he's right. It certainly wouldn't be the first time he's been wrong.

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Oh yes I agree fully though at first I didn't care much for the direction denning took her history. Then the more I thought about it I like it. It does make sense for her character, but I wanted her to be more. My main problem is the thought of what if Denning jumped the gun with making her connect with Mortis and later Abeloth's history becomes invalid due to GL doing something else with Mortis. Then again Denning did leave loop holes so to speak. Like you said, Killik history and all, and I agree.

Huh, I thought Abeloth was a corrupted Celestial. I guess I was wrong.

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My understanding was that she wasn't a Celestial. She was a mortal servant to the celestials but drank from the Font of Power and swam in the Pool of Knowledge giving her her powers. But she wasnt a Celestial so she aged and grew corrupted by the power she inherited, while the Celestials she served remained the same.

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I think in an interview Troy Denning said that the Ones are what the Celestials become. But I can't remember where I read it...

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@DLE: I think that is stated in the book. The Killiks got pretty fuzzy when they tried to define what the Celestials are._________________
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