Nah, actually the 2jz is here just because one of the kids that used to work for me has a swapped Lexus lol

We have a swapped IS300 local here too!

Regarding the amount, I would think most shops would "work" a little on the labor side with the person if they were doing a full motor build / turbo swap etc. I would hope at least. Especially for the publicity they could receive with the internet.

Buddy, that's how every single shop works. Flat rate. They just don't make up numbers.

fair enough, not saying it's bad for you to be doing that, it's fair enough, you can

but it's not how any shop over here does it, they'd lose business because everyone knows how long it actually takes.

Everything i learn about shops in the states vs Australia, mechcanics over there tend to charge WAY more for everything... $80/hr here is pretty normal for the top shops.

what do you mean by 'they don't make up numbers'

'24 hours' is a made up number

here, if it takes them 6 labour hours to remove the engine (or however long), they'll charge for 6 labour hours... and if it takes 8 to put it back in (or again, however long), that's what they charge.

or some will charge their own internal flat rate, which is usually around the $1000 mark for the shop's i've spoken to. not 24 hours by any means.

fair enough, not saying it's bad for you to be doing that, it's fair enough, you can

but it's not how any shop over here does it, they'd lose business because everyone knows how long it actually takes.

Everything i learn about shops in the states vs Australia, mechcanics over there tend to charge WAY more for everything... $80/hr here is pretty normal for the top shops.

what do you mean by 'they don't make up numbers'

'24 hours' is a made up number

here, if it takes them 6 labour hours to remove the engine (or however long), they'll charge for 6 labour hours... and if it takes 8 to put it back in (or again, however long), that's what they charge.

or some will charge their own internal flat rate, which is usually around the $1000 mark for the shop's i've spoken to. not 24 hours by any means.

Please just stop. You're derailing the thread, which I am sure is not your intent, but it's what's happening.

I guess you don't realize the amount of work to pull an engine, strip it of all components, assemble it onto another engine, and reinstall it, fluids, make it run, drive it, etc.etc. It's no easy task! I remember being at the dealership, and watching guys work on engine r&r'/for 3-5 DAYS- as in 10+ hours a day.