I love the fact that people are dumb enough to think that 4 years was enough to fix what was wrong in America...Keep flinging that useless stuff Wilt

Obama won. He won every battleground state beside NC. People can say Popular is what should matter all they want but the fact is Obama carried every state beside the one that considered themself apart of the Confederate States at one time

Hey I never said Obama was the only one who deserves blame. I didn't vote for Bush so bash away on him.

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"We've learned Kobe Bryant has been asked to run the Federal Reserve. The feeling is, he can do more with three quarters than most of us can do with a whole dollar."
--Peter Vescey, NY Post

It really is amazing how many think the stimulus and the bailouts are a failure. Especially since Bush started them. I contend that both were very necessary to save this country from financial ruin. A lot of people (you, I presume) are really forgetting how bad it really was in 2008. Without the bank bail out that Bush began, God only knows how much further down the shitter we would be right now.

One can look back and see how the banks took advantage of the bailout money. That was bound to happen. But the bailout was needed for the greater good of the nation, no matter how many "side" issues were bound to happen.

There is graft and corruption anywhere you look. The "green energy failures" as you put it was bound to have corruption; too much good money not being looked after. Unfortunately, that is the history of our country, and what I have the greatest portion of my life trying to prosecute those who commit fraud with U.S. funds. It's never going to end, because simply, we just don't audit the fund trails enough as a nation. It has been like that under every president since I can remember, and that goes back to LBJ (the president, not the basketball player).

The "green energy failures" is not economic policy. It is funding policy. And I don't consider some corruption a "failure." If that was the case, you would have to paint EVERY president's "economic policy" as failures as well.

I think you need to dig deeper, and not just give me sound bites from conservative talk show hosts. Perhaps you also need to look in the mirror and say to yourself "Why do I really dislike Obama?"

Again, I didn't vote for Bush and I'm not a fan of his. And yes pumping taxpayer money into green energy is absolutely economic policy.

And cut the psychobabble. We both know you are not going to change your mind no matter what I say and I don't really need to explain myself to you. I could care less if your feelings are hurt over my insulting of Obama.

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"We've learned Kobe Bryant has been asked to run the Federal Reserve. The feeling is, he can do more with three quarters than most of us can do with a whole dollar."
--Peter Vescey, NY Post

Fox News contributor Dick Morris:
Romney 325, Obama 213. “It will be the biggest surprise in recent American political history. It will rekindle the whole question as to why the media played this race as a nailbiter where in fact I think Romney’s going to win by quite a bit.” — Nov. 4, on Fox News.

Rush Limbaugh:
“All of my thinking says Romney big. All of my feeling is where my concern is. But my thoughts, my intellectual analysis of this — factoring everything I see plus the polling data — it’s not even close. Three hundred-plus electoral votes for Romney.” — Nov. 5, on his radio show.

Accused of amassing an 18-gun arsenal to protect his drug business, Bjorkstam is said to have defended Swift to police, describing him as a "good guy" who helped him try to collect a heroin debt but did not deal drugs himself.

"People have been ripping me off," Bjorkstam told police, according to charging papers. "Rob and I are trying to put a stop to that."

GM owes about 35 Billion I'd guess and AIG owes a quarter of their TARP money. Rest of it was paid back. That sum is vanishingly small in comparison to the cost of an economic collapse. Is that not true?

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"We've learned Kobe Bryant has been asked to run the Federal Reserve. The feeling is, he can do more with three quarters than most of us can do with a whole dollar."
--Peter Vescey, NY Post

GM owes about 35 Billion I'd guess and AIG owes a quarter of their TARP money. Rest of it was paid back. That sum is vanishingly small in comparison to the cost of an economic collapse. Is that not true?

Paid back with funds the financial service sector got from the fed by dumping their toxic mortgages on them. Meaning that ultimately they "paid the government back" with money they got from the government. A resounding success. (And GM will be heading back into bankruptcy court soon now that the election's past.)

Accused of amassing an 18-gun arsenal to protect his drug business, Bjorkstam is said to have defended Swift to police, describing him as a "good guy" who helped him try to collect a heroin debt but did not deal drugs himself.

"People have been ripping me off," Bjorkstam told police, according to charging papers. "Rob and I are trying to put a stop to that."

I did not say anything about what they paid back. I asked if 50 billion dollars, which is now equity in those two companies would be too large a price to avoid an economic collapse. It's an easy enough question. Proceed to dance around it like you were running for office.

The dancer here is you, because for one the price ain't $50 billion (given that the financial service sector has shoveled a couple of trillion in bad debt on the fed). And two, one of those companies is on life support. And is headed right back for bankruptcy. God willing they don't save it this time and let it get carved up by companies with better mismanagement.

Accused of amassing an 18-gun arsenal to protect his drug business, Bjorkstam is said to have defended Swift to police, describing him as a "good guy" who helped him try to collect a heroin debt but did not deal drugs himself.

"People have been ripping me off," Bjorkstam told police, according to charging papers. "Rob and I are trying to put a stop to that."

Lol. Like anything I say would change your mind? I don't really care if you of all people agree with me. What good would it do to change your mind?

But if you must know I think Obama's economic policies are what make him stupid.

And I didn't vote for Romney if that is what you are implying by calling me a hate filled person on the right.

So you voted for no one, yet feel the need to complain like you yourself have been slighted.

Again, people such as yourself really disgust me.

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At this point in time Mirotic is far and away the better player, that's all there is to it. You watch the two of them play and it is patently obvious. Anyone who can't tell that Mirotic is a better player needs to get their eyes checked.