The Warriors just added five players who are far from Don Nelson-types, so what’s next for him?

The signals are strong: If the timing is right and the discussions progress, my belief is that Joe Lacob is planning to move on from Don Nelson and probably install Keith Smart as the Warriors’ interim coach for the coming season.

Nothing is concrete. The rush of training camp–due to start in late-September (earlier than I thought)–complicates everything.

And if the league approval for Lacob’s official takeover as Warriors owner is delayed in any way, you know that Chris Cohan isn’t lifting a finger to replace Nelson.

But, other than the atmospheric stuff from Lacob’s words and actions, there are tangible examples of Lacob–and GM Larry Riley–pretty clearly moving from the Nelson philosophy, style, and era.

Eventually, they’ll officialy move on from him.

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For large instance:

PF/C Louis Amundson is not a Don Nels0n-type of player–limited jumper, all hustle and bang-clanging on the boards– as a matter of fact, he’s probably even less of a Don Nelson Type than Andris Biedrins.

And Biedrins is very, very much not a DNT, as the last many seasons have taught us convincingly. (Taught Biedrins, too.)

Yet the Warriors just proudly announced the signing of Amundson to a two-year deal worth about $5M, certainly a few million dollars richer than any other team was willing to pay.

Before that, the Warriors signed SF Rodney Carney, who is extremely not a Don Nelson Type, since Carney has almost no jump shot (40.1% FG last season) and in the random moments he has found major playing time, it has been about versatility on defense and filling the lane.

He likes defense, he loves the intensity and work-ethic that Kevin Garnett brought to the Celtics while Lacob was a minority partner there.

If there’s one thing I know about his basketball thinking from talking with Lacob a few times, it’s that he wants much more of a 24/7, put-in-the-work scrapping personality on the Warriors.

Which, again, is not exactly up the alley of Mr. I Won’t Bother to Coach Defense Let Somebody Else Do It.

And Riley has sharply determined that Lacob-types are now his types and good-bye to the Nelson type-cast of the Warriors.

Amundson and Carney are hustlers, battlers, guys who work on the floor, grab rebounds (Amundson), and presumably will work in practice and who you can get at a value since they’re not premium offensive threats.

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–But Nelson, at least in his Warriors days, has only valued offensive skill: Shooting, passing, penetrating. That is it.

A smart basketball person said I was wrong, that Carney and Amundson and the others signed recently all fit a running style, and that’s perfect for Nelson.

Nope, not lately. Nelson hasn’t coached a running style as much as he’s coached a SHOOT SHOOT SHOOT style, shoot from anywhere, shoot at all times, and if you can’t shoot, you can’t play.

I mean, why else did Nelson let Corey Maggette play power forward for so many minutes last year? Because Maggette could shoot (or rather: score), not because he could run.

Why did Anthony Morrow flourish? Not because he could run, believe me. How about Anthony Tolliver? Reggie Williams.

All about shooting.

Hustle? Defense? Rebounding? Not ever a part of the DNT of basketball. He believes his shooting players can beat your multi-skill players and that’s how he’s going to do it.

Every personnel or playing-time decision Nelson has made in his second tenure here has been to get the skilled offensive player on the floor, and to keep the non-shooters/non-passers off.

If you want to trace his issues with Biedrins and Anthony Randolph to their core, other than personality clashes, it’s that Nelson doesn’t want two non-scorers on the floor at the same time and he usually didn’t want to even have one.

And if you want to decipher why the Warriors had an agreement with shooting PG Jannero Pargo a few weeks ago, and then pulled back, maybe it’s right to say that Pargo is precisely a DNT–all shoot, all offensive skill–and not a Lacob/Riley type.

(Again, I can tell you: Lacob is impressed that Riley has bounced away from Nelson so cleanly. He’s very impressed. It is impressive.)

They’re going to see what Charlie Bell can do as a back-up PG, see if Lin can give them some minutes, maybe even Williams, and they wanted to put their money into a low-post hustler (Amundson), not another small scorer.

That would not have been Nelson’s choice.

Interesting, huh?

–Let’s get back to the personnel pattern here, dating back to the time Lacob was nearing purchase and then after the deal agreement…

Before the Carney deal, the Warriors signed undrafted free-agent PG Jeremy Lin, who is not a DNT, since Lin comes into the NBA with a lot of attributes, but reliable three-point shooting from pro distance is not one of them.
Lin was a personal choice of Lacob, just a reminder.

Before that, the Warriors added SF Dorell Wright, who has developed into a decent three-point shooter but is probably more valuable as a length-defender, so he isn’t a DNT.

Before that, the Warriors drafted F Ekpe Udoh, who might not play until January or later, but who does not resemble Dirk Nowitzki or Billy Owens in any way that I can tell, so he’s not a DNT, either.

(The draft was before the sale agreement, but I think Riley was making sure he was making his own mark by then, preparing for when a new owner would want him to be different than Nelson.)

I don’t know if I can or should count the David Lee thing, since that was mostly about the Warriors’ obsession with the All-Star PR, and I guess Nelson could’ve gone along with that, and apparently Lacob did, too, as he was about to close the deal.

So Lee doesn’t count in this.

But everything else since late-June or so has been notable by the way it hasn’t fit with Don Nelson’s system or likings.

Everything else has been a piece of the puzzle, and when you start fitting them together… You get a clear picture.

My point stands. He was a uni-dimensional player that Nellie went out and got.

TK is OK

Attention Low IQers.

This team is going only as far as Don Nelson can take it.

Twit Kawakami is playing the Nelson Card cuz that’s the only time he ever gets hits. Might as well use it before he has to find someone else’s back to ride on.

wan8iv

Just get rid of Nelson and send him off to Hawaii w/ all his
money.

TheTactitioner

Ws are putting together a more balanced team; though it is still somewhat of a peculiar one. 3 or 4 of the deep subs could be traded for 2 better ones after the coming season.–i.e. 8 through 12.

Mike

How about a little accuracy from you people. #1, Nelson got rid of Larry Smith. #2, Nelson picked up Fortson for Dallas in a 9 player trade with the Warriors that included Antawn Jamison, and then played 10 minutes a game for Dallas for one season and was traded away. Fortson was probably just part of the price Nelson had to pay to get Jamison. Nelson did not like Larry Smith’s game, nor Danny Fortson’s. TK is undobtedly right that Amundsen is not a Nelson player, as Nelson does want shooters everywhere.

I cracked up when I read that Pargo is a DNT player. Really? The same Pargo who had a 42.9 TS% last season…

Did it occur to tk that they didn’t sign him, because he’s just not a very good player at all? He’s downright horrible. Makes Carney look like the second coming of Anthony Morrow.

Sureshot

“This team is going only as far as Don Nelson can take it.”

In that case, the Dubs are driving off the San Rafael bridge.

If we keep Nelson… we’re screwed!

BTW – I’m fully on the Fire Bob Fitzgerald bandwagon. Where do I sign up. Hearing Grep Papa’s voice during Warrior games might even dull the pain of the craptastic mediocrity that we’re all used to.

One last thing – Don’t trade Monte or Biedrins just yet. I want to see what they can do when fully healthy and away from the nut-job that is Don Nelson.

DKnight007

IT’S THE PERENNIAL…..LOOOOUSY WARRIORS WHO ENJOY RIPPING OFF THE SEASON TICKET HOLDERS!!

LOL

A’s in 2010

Timmy should work this angle Jannero Pargo was obviously a Nellie signing that was vetoed by Mr. “I’m pretending not to have any power till I buy the team” Lacob.

Otis

I like the roster changes, though we’re not going anywhere this year, and may not next.
I actually like Fitz for the most part – just not when he’s getting defensive and testy with fans that call in knocking the Warriors or Nelson.
The boosterism is okay, even fun occasionally.
But he acts sometimes like he’s living under watch of the KGB – one negative word and they’ll break out the waterboard.
How’s Udoh’s recovery going, anyone know?
I like Amundson better than Maggette and he’s half the price.
What if Charlie Bell can play?

Ed

Don Nelson would be perfect to coach the Miami Heat…

sjbytes

If Nelson were coaching Bill Russell the greatest winner in the history of the NBA would get a DNP-CD every night. Russell couldn’t shoot beyond 2 feet so that means he’s a DNT. Even though Nelson saw Russell’s brilliance on a nightly basis while playing with him Nelson, the coach, wouldn’t play a player with Russell’s game. But he plays Maggette.

Willy White Shoes

“If Nelson were coaching Bill Russell the greatest winner in the history of the NBA would get a DNP-CD every night. Russell couldn’t shoot beyond 2 feet…”

What a crock

Nellie plays AB, and he can’t shoot two feet, let alone a free throw.

Brutus

Robert Rowel? Larry Riley? Don ‘No D’ Nelson… all OVER again?

hhmmn. Expect a Chris Cohan Part II.

Joe Lacob says it all — He is not PATIENT….for his investment return.

I’ll be very patient watching for their progress (?) … on HDTV

SV VC

Tim, will you please do your work and go speak with some of Lacob’s colleagues in the Silicon Valley? The man was a disaster. Rather than assume that the man has a great vision and will lead the Warriors out of the desert, please go speak to some of the companies he destroyed due to his lack of attention to detail and arrogance.

Brutus

Bill Russell has 11 NBA Championship rings.

Two as PLAYING COACH…on his first try.

Don Nelson after coaching for over thirty years?

Brutus

Warriors franchise on the block on 2013…

Willy White Shoes

brutus: who compared the two, besides you? The question was whether DN would play him

re: “Don Nelson after coaching for over thirty years?”

Gee, hmmm, maybe more wins than anyone else?

tk sucks

I love all the bashing of nelson. Look, im all in for blaming the organization and partly to nelson. But last year and the year before were injury-plagued seasons, what else can Nelson do? Actually what he did was create nice players like curry, reggie, tolliver. And plus, this year will be interim term for him as the new owners will look for a potential coach.

Hiring keith smart and firing nelson is just dumb financially and logically. its basically wasting 6 mil for a nelson protege. i think nelson will stay until a new coach is picked.

The Wisdom Cow

What are the chances Guber backs out of the deal (or sabotages it) so he can run off and try to buy the Dodgers when the courts order the McCourts to sell?

Larry

They actually pay you for saying nothing. The players added are EXACTLY Nelson types. They are called TWEENERS. Just because they bang doesn’t mean a thing. We are again overloaded with players that can play or almopst play 3 positions, the 2, 3, and 4. Where have you been?

Gee – I wasted my time reading this column. Get over Nelson already TK and do some real reporting. Nelson will be gone soon enough. As for me I can’t wait for the season to start and I want to see Nelson coach this last year.

Kommon Senze

#58 Mike

Hilarious. Typical feltbot to fail to observe the details in favor of a fanciful headline. Don Nelson sought out Fortson. How absurd.

Kommon Senze

I should add, though, that this is just another speculative piece. As much as I’d like it to be true, there’s no basis of this on anything reportable that I can tell. Trying to create a story out of the impression that players chosen are not ‘Nellie’ players is a stretch, to say the least.

I don’t think TK is saying “he has sources saying this is about to happen,” so it would be unfair to criticize him for making that statement, but still.. a fluff piece, at best.

BTW – I’ve seen and read Nellie say on two separate occasions that he liked Dorrell Wright quite a bit. Granted, Nellie has said a lot of things that seem rather questionable in their authenticity, I don’t have a whole lot of reason to doubt this as being true. Why? Riley, who seems less likely to BS his way about something, made a similar statement, and noted Nellie liked the kid, too.

Beyond that, though, it does seem like the team is definitely looking to take on a different identity. Whether Nellie will be a part of that or not, imo, remains unclear.

PG96

I guess I am one of the very few guys here that agrees with TK. Gone are Anthony Tolliver, Anthony Morrow, Chris Hunter, Corey Maggette, and Watson, who were 5 of Nellie’s favorite “All Offense, not a lick of Defense” type of guys. Also gone are two guys, Bookie & Randolph, who were mismatches offensively at SF or C, but not their true positions, SG & PF. Most of the new guys brought in are defensive minded, of course with the exception of Lee. Bell, Wright, Carney, Amundson, & Udoh are all limited offensively, but their contributions will be on the defensive side of the ball and in practice. Monta & Beidrins remain Warriors eventhough Nellie has had his run-ins with both. Ironically, those two guys were two of the few who actually played defense for last years team. With all of this said, the off season acquisitions have been built around defense and no team tailored for Don Nelson have ever been built with a defensive foundation. I predict Lacob’s first action as Owner will be firing Nelson and making Smart the Interim Coach for the entire year.

Brutus

Don ‘No D” Nelson won WHAT?

NBA most wins equates to NBA Most Perennial LOSER.

The Oracle

Agree that most of the moves Riley has made are not moves DN would make or want to make.

DN would not want to trade DM, let KA go, or RT. DN would not want to lose AM or CJW either. He would gladly lose AR however.

DN would want Lee, as his Center.

But none of the other players with some defensive skills and limited offensive skills would be of interest to Nelson. He wouldn’t play them, outside of his one big at Center who in Nelson’s system can be a non scorer who defends and boards. Until he decides to go small ball and that defender/rebounding Center is replaced by a 6’8″ guy.

This roster is NOT being built to please DN or to his preferences. I think that is safe to say. Does that mean DN is gone? Probably. And if not, Nelson may start 3 players only every game, Curry, ME and Lee, and bench everyone else.

http://feltbot.com/ feltbot

The Orator speaks! And that means that every single thing he says is either completely wrong, or completely made up. Just like his favorite bloggers.

From Don Nelson’s press conference on the trade that brought Fortson:

Don Nelson: Let me say Danny possesses some skill in areas that we really need help in and he can be a factor in those areas for us. So, we felt that he is gonna be a part and could be the key to the trade as far as I’m concerned.

This is a team that was built by Don Nelson, for Don Nelson. This is a team on which every single big man runs the floor, and all with the exception of Brandan Wright have an exceptionally high IQ. This is a team with extraordinary guards, hand picked and developed by Don Nelson. This is a team with long, athletic DEFENSIVELY MINDED wings, like Mitch Richmond, Mario Elie, Vincent Askew, Michael Finley, Raja Bell, Greg Buckner, Adrian Griffin, Josh Howard, Marquis Daniels, Stephen Jackson and Matt Barnes.

In other words, this is a QUINTESSENTIAL DON NELSON TEAM, from top to bottom.

slamdunk

Lacob can’t fire Nelson soon enough for me. It would be great to see some defense and rebounding done by this team for a change, lets see what Smart can do. Riley is basically trying to save his job with these moves, which are basically filling the bench. The Warriors still need a proven “3”, a bigger shooting guard, and maybe a center, if Biedrins is not in the plans. Riley has already blown the draft by doing what he did all of last year, bring in someone who is injured.

Mr. Mean

So without having read the previous 85 comments, I apologize for any redundancies, so says the master of the obvious!
Great article, Tim. This has so clearly illustrated the obvious that it ’tis time to wave bye-bye to Nellie; aloha and mahalo !
Yes, I love it that we have a lot more defense now, yet still have plenty of firepower in Curry, Ellis, Lee and Williams. Good balance, no ?
And, it’s not like these new defenders don’t have at least a little offensive game as well.
And now we will shortly enter the Keith Smart era. So glad he has been patient and Smart enough to know he’d eventually be given a shot. Hope Paul Silas Jr. hangs around, too.
There’s so much joy in me heart, mates, from all the way over from the UK, this long time fan’s (1962) so very eager to see the season begin. Can I get games on the inernet ?
Makes ol’ Mr. Mean, Larry Smith #13 smile (yes, HE was the most valuable Warrior of those teams of yore that included Purvis short).

eve

the writer is trippin!! this is conspiracy theory at its best..

” The draft was before the sale agreement, but I think Riley was making sure he was making his own mark by then, preparing for when a new owner would want him to be different than Nelson.)”.

come on Tim, you think that Riley was making decisions because he was sure that the decisions he made were gonna arouse the next suitor.. give me a break.. you really think that Don Nelson had no say on the recent aquisitions?? Lou A. was brought in for what?? Do you remember Ronny Turiaf?? he’s not here anymore.. Who do you think acquired Ronny?? and was Ronny a Nelly type considering he didn’t score? Stop stirring **** out!

gary

Most of you guys on blogs have no idea how competitive VCs are. In my professional life, I have met only one out of dozens of VCs who really didn’t have the right stuff.

Nelson is as good as gone. Other very well thought-out, highly calculated, reasoned decisions are being made behind the scenes. Take this to the bank.

It may take a little longer than we want, but the Ws will eventually be a contender… hopefully in my lifetime. But it will happen under Lacob.

marques8

I will be glad when he’s gone and then you can move on to another subject you don’t know anything about. I have taught journalism for 33 years and read the best papers from coast to coast. You are the bottom of the barrel. Even now at the end making something out of nothing. About the only decent basketball writer is Matt but he runs a lot of crap too to stay in the club.

rigged

Venture Capitalist shy away from known PERENNIAL LOSERS.

Don ‘no D’ is toast.

rigged

Who would venture their money with a group that’s been a proven failure?

And for decades?

http://bleachereport deekleek

keith smart??…never has one man gotten so much out of one shot

Dave R

I expected a lot more from TK, but this is a really dumb assessment of the W’s. First of all in my opinion, every move made this offseason by Riley has provided a better player(s) than what was lost. Getting David Lee, an all star, who is a BEAST on the boards, and can score, is way better than the 3 they let go for him. Getting Dorrell Wright is way better than the player he replaced, Anthony Morrow. As Curry said recently on KNBR, “we finally got a guy that can defend the 3″ and can shoot almost the same percentage on 3’s as Morrow. Morrow could not defend anybody or go to the hoop. He could hardly dribble the ball. I’ll take Wright any time. Amundsen is a solid defender and rebounder. We have enough shooters and scorers. Last year we could not stop anybody and could not grab any rebounds. Is there anybody among you that does not believe that the W’s are going to be better defensively (which wins championships (see Lakers and Celtics) or on the boards?

And most importantly these new players want to be here. Let me say that again – these new players want to be here!!!! Last year every player wanted to be out of here. That is how you build a team for the future. With positive players. And yes, Nelson will at least start the year to see how he works with these players.

To be sure, there is a lot of question marks, especially Andris Biedrens. He for me is the key. if he is ready to play and wants to be here, just imagine a line up of Curry, Ellis, Lee, Wright and Biedrens, with some excellent players coming off hte bench. Which ones, we will find out in the pre season. Balanced scoring and defense and rebounding.

I am tired of hearing all the negatives from Kawakami and Matt Steinmetz. I think that something good will happen this year. Possible playoffs. Let’s think positve.

Negative thoughts have never won anything!!!!

Oranje

As usual, the Kawakami haters are out. The problem for you guys is that Tim (having worked the LA Laker and LA Clipper beat) actually knows what a respectable NBA Franchise looks like, and what a piece of crap franchise looks like – ergo, he actually knows what he’s talking about when he evaluates the Warriors.

Sure there’s opinion and speculation in Tim’s article – that’s what he’s paid to do, provide us with informed opinion about the Warriors. I don’t see anything especially off base concerning his speculation about Riley and these recent player acquisitions.

You Tim haters need to stop drinking the Nelson/Rowell Kool Aid and start thinking clearly about the direction the team ought to be moving in – move Nelson and Rowell out, bring Kevin Pritchard and Jeff Van Gundy in. Now THAT’S a change I can believe in.

jo jo

We will regret letting Morrow go,if we can sign Amundson for 2.5 million,why didnt we keep Morrow? thats why we lose all this time for countless season .thats the GSW.

Jim E

#93. Sure Jeff Van Gundy. Yes he’s brilliant. Refused to start Marcus Camby and Latrell Sprewell out of pique because they “weren’t his guys” — talked a bunch of s&%t behind their backs (to the papers… he’s very good at that) blaming them for the Knicks’ problems … and when the Knicks slid and slid… he finally started them and lo and behold they make the finals (carried by Spree). That Jeff Van Gundy? Great call.

JJ

The sooner fat bastard exits the Oracle, the better. Too much culture of dysfunction he has been a major contributer to, and Smart’s ready to take the reigns, at least til further notice.

It really makes little sense why Nellie would have any job security right now. He is not the future, he is a lame duck, and he is exactly what the new ownership should be trying to break away from.

ron redwoods

Quite agree with post #1…..Riley has wanted to undermine Nelson and make himself look busy and relevant,yet his moves contradict one another and mostly,most importantly,wiped out any continuity,chemistry and a lot of upside to replace that with guys who peaked as “bench” utility types. Bell…has managed to score 10 + in a season…but that was before he was just an over the hill,overpaid tweener. Amundson is the poor man’s David Lee….kind of a Kurt Rambis sort. R Carney? C’mon…..has the basketball IQ of…a basketball. Inefficient offense, thinks he’s a 3 pt shooter. MIGHT play good D 5 min…bad D 5 min. He was a guy nobody much wanted…like Bell,like Gadz,like Vlad Rad.

D Wright in 6 years failed to hold a starting job Miami TRIED to give him. Failed to ever top 8 ppg. Morrow has the best 3% for his carrer of anyone in the NBA now…and as far as I know the one 3% guy who was EVER better was Steve Kerr.

The Knicks did not plan on Lee returning–especially at $10 mill +. They would have been THRILLED to get Randolph with the add on of Vlad Rad…Riley instead offers up Turiaf + Azubuike 2 important and cost effective ROTATION players.

GSW LOST “future”….lost DEFENSE, lost SPEED lost shooting/scoring.

They got a rebounder (Lee) who per min rebounds a bit better than Randolph. Of course, they could have traded damn little and got Troy Murphy back. Lee…Murphy….Neither is much good on D…I’d even give Murph the edge there for trying.

Morrow was traded for NOTHING. I’d think the BEST pure shooter around has some POTENTIAL and a guy who’s shown he can avg 12+ as a off the bench guy…..has value. Any twit can at LEAST trade Morrow for a late rd 1.

Draft? I like Udoh. However…NOBODY thought he’d be drafted any higher than #8. Monroe was so OBVIOUS.

Riley has left GS a team that,if ONE starter is hurt a month….poof…big trouble. There’s no BASE left,a lot of “filler” instead of “potential” so you lose that +++ you get as good young talent rises. You also lose the effect of a TEAM that’s more than a batch of mercenaries temporarily wearing matching uni’s. EVERY Warrior player now expects to be ELSEWHERE and expects his turn as the fall guy is coming up.

I see assets wasted. I see a hasty piecemeal,often contradictory effort to demolish one PLAN and replace it with no plan. I see what seemed a team sure to steadily rise as a lot of real good young talent peaked,played together…now bogged down with a lot of generic scrubs and no identity.

I don’t get it.

ron redwoods

Invoking Larry Smith? Larry Smith would avg 12+ reb AND be a VERY good defender. Lee can defend a lawn chair. Dorrel Wright? He had ONE season where he shot 3’s fairly well…..about on par with CJ Watson,after 5 where his 3 was NOT good. Morrow had back to back years around 45%…which Reggie Miller never did,Ray Allen never did.

Morrow can’t drive? He had 30+ pt games yet without making 10 3’s in any of them,often less than half his scoring was on 3’s.

If you want DEFENSE and rebounds…A Randolph is >>>>> D Lee…..and less $.

If you want points per min, Maggette >>> Lee and less $.

Defense? Azubuike=Dorell Wright on D. Dorrell has poor handles,no inside game and that’s why he failed…annually..to hold down a starter job in Miami. R Carney? Please…he’s incredibly inconsistant across the board.
Gadzuric? Vlad Rad……if they have to play…you probably lose.

JJ

I like the moves they’ve made. The fanbase was sick of waiting for potential hopefuls to someday pan out, so Riley made an aggressive move to get D Lee. He will at least provide a semblence of post offence, something the W’s have been in desperate need of and lacking since Chris Webber.

As far as losing the BENCH PLAYERS of Azu, Turiaf, & Morrow…they were worth the cost of gaining Lee. The team is far more balanced now, with less rendundancies. Morrow is a 3pt set shooter, nothing more. I see him more in the mold of a Eddie House, Korver, or Matt Bonner. Valuable yes, but not a difference maker.

And besides…

Reggie Williams replaces Azu
Amundson replaces Turiaf (cheaper too)
Morrow’s shooting can be easily replaced. We have Curry, R. Will, even Vladimir can come in and spread the offense.

ron redwoods

Sorry kids…..

The investment in Lee means there is a PF who has to play 5 min or better…but is a liability on D

The loss…rather carelessly and pointlessly.. of Morrow,Watson,Tolliver…..after throwing in Azu and Turiaf and just turning Maggette into junk means ONE OR TWO injuries drops GSW back into the win 30% zone.

Mullin had a VISION….Riley has an AGENDA……which is to brown nose for a job he’s not good at. Mullin had flaws but the VISION was on target,that’s now wrecked,lost and can’t be saved. Nellie is his own enemy. His Holy Crusade to sell his trademark small ball FAILED miserably because WIN had to be the PRIORITY and the second priority was PROGRESS.

The FOUNDATION was all lined up. GSW had BIG upside,depth youth,with high potential to TOP THE LEAGUE in stuff like scoring,speed 3%,shot blocks and steals while having the deepest team I’d seen in a long time. It was ALL SET UP…except there had to be a SANE and LOGICAL coach with Nellie’s knack for GO-Fast,minus his knack for screwing himself and creating a lot of drama.

There also had to be SOME solution for ALL TIME injury damage. Who KNOWS…really KNOWS why GSW for 2 yr in a row had half the team BROKEN and OUT ? Huh?

Is it Nellie pushing guys to gow too fast too many min? A PLUS was that Nellie had guys in WANT to WIN mode…..were they TOO willing to sacrifice themselves? anyone think GSW has even thought about that?

Morrow was a set shooter. Yeah….and he was a yr 2 guy who had a lot of 20-35 pt games without getting anything handed to him. He had 10 reb games as a SG. Dorell Wright……had SIX FRIGGIN’ Years where Miami tried to GIVE him starting min.

Amundson is a hustle guy with no upside. I’d LOVE to add him but Tolliver was a BETTER PLAYER and has more upside.

GSW is run by FOOLS and way to many of their fans are herd animals who fail to SEE that the W’s ACTUALLY had their shot at CONTENDER almost built and now……..forget it…business as usual.