Katy Bowman and Gail Tully on why a baby moving through a pelvis has almost nothing in common with a couch moving through a stairwell, a watermelon moving through a nostril, or a basketball moving through a hoop.

Wild food forager Sam Thayer talks with Katy Bowman about how he began foraging out of necessity, but now his body craves the nutrition—and nutritious movement—he only gets from foraging. Plus, he runs us through the physical work involved in making maple syrup and harvesting wild rice. Mileage for those who want to listen on the go: This podcast clocks in at around 75 minutes… so head out for a six-miler and let Katy and Sam keep you company.