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Talk:Vales of Anduin

As far as I know, Durin IV is never mentioned explicitly in any canon material beyond the presence of his name in the genealogy of the House of Durin. All we know about him is that he lived after Durin III (who supposedly received a Ring of Power from Celebrimbor, and therefore lived sometime around the War of the Elves and Sauron) and before Durin V and VI (Durin VI was slain by the Balrog of Moria in T.A. 1980). Thus, he lived in either the late Second or early Third Ages, but to identify him specifically as the King of the Longbeards during the War of the Last Alliance (as has been done in other articles) is pure conjecture. I think the reference to Durin IV, therefore, should be removed. Corsair Caruso 02:15, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I think we covered this here. Please feel free to remove all the inaccuracies. --Mith(Talk/Contribs/Edits) 16:13, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, will do. Also, I wanted to add a reference to The Peoples of Middle-earth: Of Dwarves and Men, specifically, the section titled "Relations of the Longbeard Dwarves and Men." On page 305 of The Peoples of Middle-earth, it states that "The Second Age had reached only the middle of its course (c. Second Age 1695) when he invaded Eriador and detroyed Eregion, a small realm established by the Eldar migrating from the ruin of Beleriand that had formed an alliance also with the Longbeards of Moria. This marked the end of the Alliance of the Longbeards with Men of the North." I wanted to insert a reference to my edit regarding the end of the economic relationship between Dwarves and Men occurring at that time, but I'm not able to edit the references section. Corsair Caruso 01:09, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

You shouldn't be able to edit the references section! ;-) To add a reference, just do as usual: to provide a reference to the section you mention above, just write <ref>{{PM|Relations}}</ref> after the sentence you edit or add in the article. You can find the citation template for The Peoples of Middle-earthhere.--Morgan 09:23, 1 October 2013 (UTC)