Those stats are incorrect, Rich. Those are "opponents" defensive stats...so how many turnovers/sacks were given up by Miami's offense, not created by their defense. They were tied for 25th with 6 recovered fumbles. They were 27th in interceptions also, but were 7th in sacks.

Miami was 29th in the NFL in creating turnovers.

The Patriots were 2nd in the NFL in creating turnovers. Atlanta was 5th.Surprisingly Baltimore and SF were much lower, tied for 15th.

Offense wins championships, but defensively you have to be more than just "solid."...It's about creating big plays.

Those stats are incorrect, Rich. Those are "opponents" defensive stats...so how many turnovers/sacks were given up by Miami's offense, not created by their defense. They were tied for 25th with 6 recovered fumbles. They were 27th in interceptions also, but were 7th in sacks.

Miami was 29th in the NFL in creating turnovers.

The Patriots were 2nd in the NFL in creating turnovers. Atlanta was 5th.Surprisingly Baltimore and SF were much lower, tied for 15th.

Offense wins championships, but defensively you have to be more than just "solid."...It's about creating big plays.

You're right, ESPN's stat section sucks.

Still, from a pass rush perspective we're right up there.

What we need is a playmaker in the secondary. Our defense is not that far. It could use a considerable amount of help from our offense. A team like NE is high up in creating turnovers because teams have to go pass happy to compete with them since they score so much on offense.

Those stats are incorrect, Rich. Those are "opponents" defensive stats...so how many turnovers/sacks were given up by Miami's offense, not created by their defense. They were tied for 25th with 6 recovered fumbles. They were 27th in interceptions also, but were 7th in sacks.

Miami was 29th in the NFL in creating turnovers.

The Patriots were 2nd in the NFL in creating turnovers. Atlanta was 5th.Surprisingly Baltimore and SF were much lower, tied for 15th.

Offense wins championships, but defensively you have to be more than just "solid."...It's about creating big plays.

You're right, ESPN's stat section sucks.

Still, from a pass rush perspective we're right up there.

What we need is a playmaker in the secondary. Our defense is not that far. It could use a considerable amount of help from our offense. A team like NE is high up in creating turnovers because teams have to go pass happy to compete with them since they score so much on offense.

Totally agree! that's why this draft and FA needs to be offense heavy....I actually don't think we need to break the bank in FA either, Wallace should be our most exspensive pickup. I also think we need to get either Cook (Tenn) or Bennett (NYG) along with a solid Guard or Tackle in FA....whichever one we don't get in FA we find in the draft.

Those stats are incorrect, Rich. Those are "opponents" defensive stats...so how many turnovers/sacks were given up by Miami's offense, not created by their defense. They were tied for 25th with 6 recovered fumbles. They were 27th in interceptions also, but were 7th in sacks.

Miami was 29th in the NFL in creating turnovers.

The Patriots were 2nd in the NFL in creating turnovers. Atlanta was 5th.Surprisingly Baltimore and SF were much lower, tied for 15th.

Offense wins championships, but defensively you have to be more than just "solid."...It's about creating big plays.

You're right, ESPN's stat section sucks.

Still, from a pass rush perspective we're right up there.

What we need is a playmaker in the secondary. Our defense is not that far. It could use a considerable amount of help from our offense. A team like NE is high up in creating turnovers because teams have to go pass happy to compete with them since they score so much on offense.

Those sack numbers are misleading though. We all saw how much they struggled to put pressure on the QB with 4 man rushes. I think adding a big time rusher opposite Wake would do more for the secondary and the amount of plays they make than another CB would.

Add a dynamic rusher like Houston, SF, Denver, Seattle, etc have the last 2 years and I think the impact is huge. Now your corners and safeties are being more aggressive, you can play coverage while still getting after the passer, your LB's potentially have more rush lanes when you do blitz...A DE turns the guys you already have into playmakers by allowing them to be in more positions to make big plays.

But no consistency opposite Wake is what I'm getting at. Odrick and Starks as a combo in the middle is fine, and Vernon is a nice role player. But adding a dynamic rusher opposite Wake would be huge.

I get what you're getting at and I agree which is why I think we should go DE in round 1 given the depth of talent at the position.

But even with a better pass rush, guys like Sean Smith and Nolan Carroll aren't all of a sudden going to get 8 picks.

Also, the Dolphins sack number would have been higher with better coverage. It works both ways.

We're on the same page then.

I agree that CB isn't good enough the way it is. But I think pass rusher comes before the secondary, so I think DE needs to be prioritized. If you've got a chance to attack CB, whether in Free Agency with a guy like Sam Shields, or in the draft, great. But I wouldn't sacrifice a DE to get a CB.

But it's not just adding sacks. It's pressuring the QB, getting him to throw the ball earlier, rush throws, feel uncomfortable, feel like he has to get outside the pocket, etc. etc. An elite pass rush makes everything easier on your secondary and allows the back end and your play caller to be more aggressive.

SF went from 2nd to last in the NFC to 1st in the league in turnovers the year they drafted Aldon Smith.

We are one of the worst scoring and passing teams in the League, we are 17th in rushing. There is no offense, its soft. Sorry but as far as I am concerned if they do not address that this off season hard and heavy we will find ourselves in similar situations next year.

People saying get better defense.. Our offense avg 18 points per game.. YUCK... Our defense allowed 19.. WOW... So if our offense was just a little better, those two stats tell me we win more games.

I mean we have 5 picks between 12 - 82. Should be able to add play makers to both sides really. WR, OT/G DE/T, DB (not in any order) and still have a pick left....