Germs are not the whole reason behind cleaning it, keeping it visibly clean and fresh smelling are important too, anyway germs need dirt to breed on so if you keep it clean they are less likely to multiply. I just don't think it needs to be 100% germ free, ordinary cleaners are enough for it unless perhaps there is a D&V bug in the house or someone has a lowered immune system. Even if you bleach every day you won't eliminate them entirely anyway.

Although i wouldn't say i loose sleep over germs, i wouldn't buy a loo cleaner if it didn't mention killing germs. Like you said, i like to have some reassurance that germs are being killed as its one less thing to be worried about especially as i have a youngster who seems facinated with the loo at the moment! I put the domestos down our loo every morning.

Whatever product you use will be flushed away so anythingthat cleans the toilet will be fine, and, of course, if the loo is clean the 'germs' can't multiply. If you're really concerned pour a kettle full of boiling water round the pan.

Citric acid kills germs? I didn't know that. Sounds plausable i guess and i agree with the theory that soap bars don't mention it either. Saying that though i don't understand why they wouldn't mention it if i did so as surely its one of the main selling points of a cleaner like this....

I'm intrigued some people say they are not concerned about germs in the loo though. I always thought germs were the whole reason behind cleaning the loo? no?

I can't comment on Ecover products but i imagine you're right they don't contain any bleach as Ecover probably base their whole philiosophy on not using any harmful ingrediants. Personally i like to use something strong down my toilets like bleach that takes care of germs.

Just that today i thought i would try and be ecowise and decided to try the ecover loo cleaner. I have just put some down the loo like i always do last thing at night and looked on the back to read the environmental bluff and noticed nowhere does it say anything about killing germs. It mentions all the usual removing stains, and freshening, etc, but nothing on germs. I'm guessing that it doesn't contain any bleach due to the environmental badness of it but i thought it would surely have some sort of disinfecting properties. Can anyone shed any light on if the ecover products actually have disinfecting qualities or not?