How does it make someone in Florida feel to know that the shit is gushing all over, and while working with groups like Greenpeace against a gigantic machine, other people are actively on the phone promoting the person who is accepting BP money more than anyone else in history.

How is that suppose to make someone feel?

Tell me. Your intolerance is astounding. Because through all your threats, and all your visions of blood and guts, I want to know what you think when you envision that situation.

I firmly believe that "mother" nature will be the hidden "saviour" of the planet. Ratcheting up the causes behind climate change, by simply ignoring the warnings, and continuing down the same roads, meaning escalating wars, burning more fossil fuels, refusing to acknowledge a need for more efficient transport, et al, will precipitate even more extreme weather patterns, with severe storms, hurricanes, tornadoes, cyclones, tsunamis, floods, droughts, and the rest of it.

Insurance will become too costly for most to afford, infrastructure repairs will bankrupt many local authorities, food sources will become scarcer, and meanwhile, the corporations will offshore themselves to their tax havens, and kick back for retirement.

Two years running, Australia saw the monsoon trough extend across all four eastern states and the Australian Capital Territory, all the way down into the roaring forties of the Southern Ocean, to Tasmania. The whole eastern seaboard suffered extensive flooding, all at the same time. This, of course, overextended our emergency services, our health system, and many people are still fighting for "justice" from their insurers. Meaning, no repairs to flood damaged house, or nowhere to live.

City councils, and their associated water boards, are being sued by the insurers, and the whole process is draining funds from taxpayers faster than they can be recouped in taxes.

Now, if it's earthquakes you want to discuss, New Zealand still has cities without even basic services, after many tremors, both large and small. A serious fault-line slip at a critical point would send a tsunami large enough to destroy most of our east coastline, south of Brisbane. Quite possibly, America's west coast as well.

On the ice melting scenario, I'm surprised at the lack of rise in ocean levels. I'm on the coast, and I don't detect any noticable difference at this point.

Well he definitely has issues - can't stay on topic about global warming - because he can't admit that there is a large contingent of RINOS standing in the way of making any proper policy on ending the use of fossil fuel.

We'll just discuss it and ignore the 800 lb elephant in teh room which is BP funding both sides and people actually believing one of them will save them.

Talk the issues to death. Go for it. At the end of the day it takes action, and your precious Dems are just a bought out as the other ones so you better stop talking the obvious and start putting a real plan together for change.

Or keep repeating the obvious.

You simply dont like someone coming in and pointing out the corruption you endorse out of one side of your mouth while acting all caring out of the other.

And if that makes me unpopular with the die hard party folks then so be it. Because thats whats it going to take.

Nothing will change until the people wake up and realize they have been played.