Here is a balanced article from the excellent 'Hope Not Hate' site, from my standpoint, I do feel that there is much to cause concern regarding UKIP, at the least, they don't seem to be vetting their enrollees and I have heard Farage being very unfair to my faith, even when confronted with facts, he would not budge http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/ukip/oppose

Here is a balanced article from the excellent 'Hope Not Hate' site, from my standpoint, I do feel that there is much to cause concern regarding UKIP, at the least, they don't seem to be vetting their enrollees and I have heard Farage being very unfair to my faith, even when confronted with facts, he would not budge http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/ukip/oppose

I suppose it depends on how you define "rascist". The "racist" card can be used very much like the "anti-semitic" card.

There are certainly a lot of "moderate" people in this nation who do not like to see large parts of the country changeing because of ethnic/cultural/religious reasons. Not specifically because they "hate" people from those groups. A lot will stem back to the first and second world wars where are nation fought to keep out the german jack boot from this "green and plesant land" Large influxes of people from other nations seems to some to be an insult for what our parents fought and died to prevent. The change to being hugely cosmopolitan is not easy for some and they have the right to defend politically what they believe in. Suggesting that UKIP might secretly be racist could work in their favour numerically_________________JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12

O’Brien allows Farage a lengthy whinge about separating the fringe lunatics in his party from the majority of moderates, and his stance on denying former mebers of far-right parties like the BNP membership to the party – then exposes Farage’s own links to the far right.

Farage was pictured in 1997 (image below) with two prominent members of the far right. The first is Tony LeComber, former member of The National Front, and a director of the BNP jailed in 1991 for attacking a Jewish teacher. The second is Mark Deavin, another BNP member who in the same year this picture was taken, wrote the anti-semitic time ‘Who are the Mindbenders?’ intended to expose some sinister Jewish ownership and control of the British press for nefarious purposes.

Farage attempts to distance himself by stating simply that people change and he was disappointed by the changes in these men. He is caught in another misrepresentation when O’Brien points out Farage had lunch with Deavin after he was ditched by UKIP.

STRANGE BEDFELLOWS:

Nigel Farage
Tony LeComber Neo Nazi with Bomb Convictions

Mark Deavin BNP

Then O’Brien challenges Farage’s membership of the far-right group in the European Parliament which includes The Danish People’s Party, The True Finns, the Dutch SGP and the Lega Nord. Farage chairs the group with Lega Nord’s Franscesco Speroni who said of Norway’s mass murderer Anders Breivik “Breivik’s ideas are in defence of western civilisation.”

Farage immediately closes this down, attributing the comments to a member of Lega Nord that they dismissed from the group. “No he didn’t, one of his members did and we kicked him out of the group” insists Farage. But O’Brien has done his research – Mario Borghezio who praisied Breivik in 2011 was suspended by the right-wing European Parliament group in May 2013 for making racist remarks about a Congolese-born minister of the Italian government.

Farage dismisses his party cosying up to Europe’s fascist parties as necessary political compromise...'

I find Scriptonite generally informative on a range of issues, and it has a comments section._________________'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.

Speaking at two events for right-wing activists in Washington, he launched a ferocious attack on the service, blaming it for much of the nation’s debts.

He said: “A number I couldn’t possibly imagine when I was younger is now the amount of money that is owed by my country... of course, at the heart of this, the Reichstag bunker of socialism, is the National Health Service.

“And that is why socialised health care is so dangerous – because it is a ratchet. Once it is in place it is very, very hard to get rid of.”

“I promise I’m not making this up – breast augmentation, hymen repair for those who want to be born-again virgins, is paid for by the National Health Service,” he told his audience of young Americans.

“If you have low self-esteem you get new breasts, but if you are dying of breast cancer you can’t have the treatment you need to stay alive. “

He added: “Socialists think that if somebody wants to reassign their gender the state should pay, they think that’s how the world works. So if you love she-males come to the United Kingdom, if you love freedom – stay here.”

The Reichstag bunker was the air-raid shelter in Berlin which became the ­infamous heart of the Nazi regime at the end of the World War Two. It was where Hitler married Eva Braun in 1945 before the pair committed suicide.

The emotive comparison will infuriate hardworking doctors and nurses.

One veteran nurse stormed: “We save lives every day. Is this Ukip character seriously comparing us to one of the world’s mass murderers?”

In his speech in 2010 to Young America’s Foundation Conservative Student Conference in Washington, Mr Richardson also said the NHS was the “sacred cow of British politics” – but that he hoped David Cameron would start privatising it.

Referring to Labour, Mr Richardson sneered: “This socialist Government wastes money like you can’t imagine. They have started doing every wasteful scheme under the sun.”

In a second speech in Washington at the Conservative Political Action ­Conference that same year Mr ­Richardson repeated his claim that the NHS was a massive drain on resources.

Nigel Farage, UKIP’s former leader and still its best-known representative, poses as a no-nonsense patriot. Curiously, his patriotism does not extend to insisting his chief backers pay their taxes in his beloved Britain.

One of Farage’s allies and donors was the multi-millionaire tax exile Aaron Banks. The aptly-named Banks accompanied Farage as he raced across the Atlantic in November last year, determined to be the first British politician received by Donald Trump, the newly-elected US president.

Banks has subsequently fallen out with the party over apparently trivial matters. Though such squabbles are entertaining, they should not distract from how – despite its claim to champion ordinary folk – UKIP frequently sides with the world’s bullies.

That much is clear from the strong level of UKIP involvement in a recently-formed group dedicated to supporting Israel’s war crimes.

Friends of Judea and Samaria in the European Parliament, as the group is called, has been set up in response to the Palestinian call for boycott, divestment and sanctions against Israel.

Fifteen members of the European Parliament support the new group, according to its website. Three of the 15 belong to UKIP, making it the only party to have more than one declared supporter.

Judea and Samaria is the name that Israel gives to the occupied West Bank. The “friends of” group seeks to legitimize Israel’s settlement activities in the West Bank, all of which are illegal under international law.

Moreover, it seeks to build a direct link between the Brussels institutions and Israeli settlers.

Diehard
The group was founded by Yossi Dagan, chair of Samaria Regional Council, which is a local authority for some of Israel’s illegal settlements.

Dagan – who was invited to Trump’s inauguration earlier this year – is diehard settler.

He came to prominence by vociferously opposing the evacuation of a small number of settlements in the West Bank.

The settlements were evacuated as part of what was (inaccurately) described as a “disengagement” plan implemented by the Israeli government led by Ariel Sharon in 2005.

In a 2015 interview with Arutz Sheva – a media network supporting the settler movement – Dagan bragged of his “public relations” skills. Politicians and journalists that he had brought on tours of Israeli settlements “now form the core of lobbying groups in their respective countries, advocating for Judea and Samaria, as well as against BDS,” he claimed.

Roger Helmer is among the UKIP representatives supporting Friends of Judea and Samaria in the European Parliament. Asked why he has endorsed an organization that defends Israel’s illegal conduct, Helmer replied that there is an issue of “strategic defense.”

“Having stood on the hills of Samaria and looked out over Tel Aviv and Ben Gurion Airport all the way to the Mediterranean – a mere 10 miles or so – it is clear that the State of Israel is simply indefensible without control over those heights,” Helmer added. “This is an existential issue.”

If Helmer really believes his own words, then he has swallowed so much propaganda that he must have constant indigestion.

Only Israel and its supporters view the occupation of the West Bank as a matter of “strategic defense.” Every other analyst recognizes that it is the result of a belligerent act undertaken in 1967 and that the building and expansion of settlements contravenes the Fourth Geneva Convention.

Put more simply, they are war crimes.

Balanced?
Petr Mach, a Czech politician who is allied to UKIP, teamed up with Dagan to form Friends of Judea and Samaria in the European Parliament. Mach claimed that the group’s “main goal” is to promote a “balanced” and “fair” EU approach “regarding the West Bank.”

“We just wish to have free trade with everybody and we wish peace to everybody,” he stated by email.

The group’s professed desires for fairness and peace are bogus. A leaflet it has published alleges that the EU imposes “trade barriers” on “Jewish goods from the West Bank.”

That accusation is based on how the EU officially refuses to regard Israel’s settlements in the West Bank as part of Israel. Whereas the EU allows most goods from present-day Israel to be exported free of tax or customs duties, such privileges do not apply to produce from settlements in the West Bank.

The “trade barriers” of which the group complains have proven easy to circumvent. Casimex, a French company, markets wines from Israel’s settlements in the West Bank and Golan Heights as “Wine of Israel.” The latter territory is a part of Syria, which Israel has occupied since 1967.

The group also peddles the lie that the European Union is funding “terrorism” by giving money to the Palestinian Authority.

“Terrorism” is the catch-all term that Israel and its supporters use to describe acts of Palestinian resistance.

Far from encouraging resistance, the EU has been financing cooperation between the Palestinian Authority and Israel. In so doing, it has helped transform the Palestinian Authority into an enforcer of the Israeli occupation.

Apart from endorsing the Friends of Judea and Samaria group, UKIP representatives have flaunted what one called their “absolutely massive” support for Israel in other ways.

An apparently separate outfit, Friends of Israel in UKIP, has been circulating comparable baloney. One of that group’s absurd claims is that calling settlement activities in the West Bank illegal “impedes Israel’s security.”

Three years ago, Friends of Israel in UKIP found its logo derided on Twitter. Featuring a pound sign inside a Star of David, the logo triggered accusations of employing an anti-Semitic trope.

Although the group apologized for any offense caused, that image – or a very similar one – is still emblazoned on its Facebook page.

UKIP’s appreciation of Israel appears clumsy and its representatives appear to have a superficial knowledge of Middle Eastern affairs. That does not make its cheerleading for war crimes any less dangerous.

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