5 weeks pregnant and bleeding??

I am 5 weeks pregnant 2morrow. i attended the hosp on friday as i started bleeding after a positive blood bhcg. they thougt i had imiscarried and wanted to check my blood yesterday. i found out i am still pregnant with a level of 126 and it was 49.8 on friday so its almost tripled in 2 days. the bleeding has now got a lot lighter and the cramps have totally gone. has any1 else ever experienced this. i am due for a scan next week.

I have had miscarriages and I have also had 2 pregnancies with early bleeding.

Sorry if this is TMI but when I did have the MC's then I knew it tbh, there was a lot more than light bleeding.

Now when I had bleeding early on, was around the same marker as you, the bleeding stopped and the babies were fine.

It's good that they are doing a scan next week. Don't shy of going to ask for another check up though if you're really worried. Best thing to do is try and rest too, no rushing round, heavy lifting, lay off sex and try to do your best to rest.

I have had early bleeding with all of mine.
Joey who is now 4 1/2 i was 4 weeks and I had a 3 day bleed which I thought was a period so I was 4 weeks more pregnant than I thought as I didn't know I was pregnant.
Leo who is now 2 1/2 I was 13 weeks when I had a bleed with him, I thought I was losing him but went for a scan the same day and he was fine.
This pregnancy I am 13weeks and 2 days and I bleed at 6 weeks and also lost clots but had a scan at 9 weeks and was fine. I've got another scan on thursday I'm so excited.
Hope everything is ok. Keep positive hun. Take care Amy xx
ps let us know how you get on at your scan please!

im trying to keep so positive when i went yesterday i went thinking id lost it. its my first and ive tried for 4 years to get this far and finally did it naturally. i really think this baby will be ok now ive stopped bleeding i feel better and knowing i started bleeding friday and it was still there yesterday after my results being high was a great comfort.

Fingers crossed everything is ok then
I had bleeding too in my 1st pregnancy was quite heavy and lasted a few days, had a scan but no heartbeat was found just a sac so was told to go back 10days later and they could see a heartbeat
My LO is now 5.
So bleeding doesnt always end in miscarriage xxx

Charlotte the exact same thing happened to me and it was 8weeks after an actual mc so I was distraught. I couldn't believe when my bloods came back saying my baby was ok. I bled on 2 further occasions but nothing like the first time which lasted 5 days and was very heavy. My dd has recently turned 4 and was 2 weeks overdue. My friend said it was all that leg crossing trying to hold her in

around 5-6 weeks i had brown discharge (like old blood sort of) for a whole day, then a few clots later in the evening, nothing since then and nurse has told me this is very normal, hope u r okay and hold on in there babba!! stop scaring ure mamma!

im feeling ok belly bit tense and bloated this morning got some brown spotting but hardly any just cant wait for scan i dont think ive miscarried hopefully. if id bled all this week i wud have thought it

I totally sympathise with you im actually going threw the same thing...I am 5 and a half weeks pregnant suffering from bleeding,clots and bloating,cramps etc...I went into hospital had a internal scan as only having one ovary and follopian tube they had to check for an eptopic prgnancy..thankfully there was a small sack found in my womb however too small to detect heartbeat..on leaving hospital with no explanation for bleeding my doctor has taken another blood test as they can detect if pregnancy is still growing so im waiting on results...its really scary not knowing and having to wait so fingers crossed x

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Hi All, I hope you don't mind me joining your chat? I'm 5 weeks and 5 days and yesterday afternoon I wiped after going to the toilet and there was blood on the tissue. It was bright red in colour so I rushed myself to the emergency room where I constantly made trips to the toilet, there was a clot (which scared the **** out of me) but the tissue showed lighter and more watery blood, more pink in colour. They did an internal and said that I wasn't 'actively bleeding' and that my cervix was closed which are good signs, but I have to go back tomorrow for a scan. Today has been so horrible as it's a waiting game! Earlier there was again pinkish/brown blood on the tissue when wiping, but a midwife on the cow and gate forum explained how it could just be the remainder of yesterday's bleeding leaving my system. Last 2 trips to the loo have shown no blood so I'm prayer that everything is going to be ok and just hoping that the scan tomorrow has positive results. I go through phases of thinking how my boobs still hurt, I'm tired, a bit sickly feeling and still peeing loads so positive - and the next being in floods of tears thinking the worst Anyone else had something similar and had a positive outcome? I'm also consoling myself with the fact that my Nan had bleeding over my Aunt, my Mum had bleeding over my Brother and my Husband's Mum had bleeding over him. Michelle xx

WELL, it's been a tought day and a half waiting to be able to have a scan. Bleeding continued, never enough to mark underwear much or need to wear a pad, but nearly always there when wiping. Particularly after urination etc.
I took a clearblue test yesterday, my theory was that if it showed not pregnant or 1-2 weeks it would mean I had miscarried or there was a least a drop in my hcg levels therefore meaning it would be imminent. The clearblue came back pregnant 2-3 weeks which I was relieved at, but still not in the clear! My boobs were still sore, but I dunno whether it was the sickly feeling in my stomach or whatever or maybe just psychalogical, but I was scared my pregnancy symptoms had gone away - wasn't craving grapefuit anymore for example and couldn't sleep whereas before I was desperate for it!
Finally this morning came and the scan seemed to take eternity even though it was minutes. To our relief they found the baby pretty much straight away (although as I say, it felt like AAaaages!). I could even see the babies strong heartbeat on the monitor!
I'm still passing a little blood, but that's a great feeling to know the baby is still there and alive!
My heart goes out to you all, it's such a horrible feeling and let's hope and pray that everything works out for us all. I am a religious person and I have to say that I think that has got me through too - an outlet, constantly praying for help and hope!
Sending my best wishes to you all and let's pray that this baby sticks full term! My hubbie and I are temporarily relieved! xxxx

5 weeks pregnant and bleeding and having quite bad cramps

I'm 5 and a haif weeks pregnant and I started bleeding this morning with cramps coming later in the day. Am still bleeding but not as much as a regular period but the cramps feel quite strong. What should I do? Sit tight and wait? I have three children and never experienced this with any of them. I also MC'd last summer with similar lead up. I suppose I'm just wondering if anyone has experienced similar and continued to have a successful pregnancy.

Thanks Becky have been in touch with GP although his concern seemed mainly to be ectopic pregnancy. I'm just gonna to sit and wait for a miracle. He also said I should go to the EPU tomorrow, so I suppose that's at least doing something. Thanks again what will be will be.

5 weeks pregnant and bad bleeding and clots.

hi my names tara, i just want to talk and get advice from you guys.im 5 weeks pregnant and for the last couple of days ive been passing blood and clots off and on i had bleeding and i little clot thursday but my hcp was fine then had bloods done sunday they had nearly tripled then sunday evening i had really bad cramping and starting bleeding again with bigger clots and quite bad crampsthen i stopped sunday night then starting bleeding wensday night and cramping but thursday i stopped bleedy.has any one gone through the same as me then gone on to be ok as im hoping everythings ok as i had already lost one baby about 5 months ago and i really thought this was different.ive just had my bloods done again and ive got a ultra sound on fri so 2maro.Ive got my fingers and toes crossed please help.xxx

5 weeks and bleeding

Hi Tara. Just wondering how your scan went? I really feel for you..and very sorry to hear what you're going through. I am in the same boat exactly. I am waiting for a scan on Friday. I am 5 weeks plus 4 days and noticed blood this morning. Absolutely terrified as miscarried at 12 weeks last September.Had a horiffic experience so praying I'm not going to go through it again. Just been to docs and they've booked me for an emergency scan on Friday and can't do much until then, except hopw and pray. Really hope all's ok with you. N x

I think you need to try not to worry (as difficult as it is).
Bleeding in early pregnancy does not always mean miscarriage.
If you have any concerns I would be straight to a&e and demand a scan.
I had bleeding with my little girl, who is 3 now. I lost two babies in quick susession before Emily was conceived. Both those times I just knew I'd lost them. The bleeding and pain was unbearable. I personally think it was worse than labour.

But I bled at 6 weeks with my daughter. Rushed into hospital and the scan showed her heartbeat as strong as ever.
I'm currently 5 weeks pg. And am terrified. But I have hope that if my Emily cookie cane through alright then this one will too.

going through the same

I know how yo all feel going through the same. started bleeding and cramps on thursday had a scan and was 5weeks 2 days but last night and today bleeding has been very heavy, clotting and soft tissue cramps still continuing so not feeling to good about this

5wks pregnant and bleeding

Hi there it's my first time on here but have found this thread really helpful! I'm just over 5 week pregnant with my 3rd baby, and started bleeding at work today, I'm also getting cramps but not too painful, the bleeding is heavy and bright red and I am fearing the worst. Doctor says nothing they can do til 7weeks and I need to carry on as normal and then take another test to see if Im still pregnant! It's over a week to wait til I know, just hope the bleeding stops and my baby is ok! Reading that others have had similar experience to me has helped me be a little bit positive x

WIPING BLOOD WHEN GOING TO THE TOILET

Hi im about 5 weeks pregnant and have started to wipe blood away when going to the toilet. Its not coming away any other way. This has gone on for 2 days now. Do you think this is the start of a miscarriage or would it have already happened

6 weeks pregnant and bleeding like a period bleed

I had a scan last Friday which showed i was 5 w 5 days pregnant. I had the scan because I was spotting blood since last Tuesday. I was delighted to be told the sac was in the right place so that rules out an etopic pregnancy and measurements were all ok. But I started a bleed which is similar to a period on sat and have had it ever since. I had some abdominal cramps on Fri nite but no pain wotsoever since. This blood is mainly dark red in colour with some small threads of blood sometimes showing on the tissue after I wipe. I have no idea wot this is but I am due another scan on Friday so hopefully I will find out then. Anyone ever experience anything similar to this?

I had a scan last Friday which showed i was 5 w 5 days pregnant. I had the scan because I was spotting blood since last Tuesday. I was delighted to be told the sac was in the right place so that rules out an etopic pregnancy and measurements were all ok. But I started a bleed which is similar to a period on sat and have had it ever since. I had some abdominal cramps on Fri nite but no pain wotsoever since. This blood is mainly dark red in colour with some small threads of blood sometimes showing on the tissue after I wipe. I have no idea wot this is but I am due another scan on Friday so hopefully I will find out then. Anyone ever experience anything similar to this?

hi karen im 6wks pregnant 2day,ive bin bleedin 4 afew days very heavy i thought i was 9wks goin on my last period 2,1,2012.i had a scan 2day and was told the baby has no heart beat and could i hav got my dates wrong i no i havent .im 2 go bk nxt wk 2 c if a heart beat shows nxt wk,the midwife told me 2 rest and stay positive
as heart beat mite not b showin yet,ive only had brown blood wen i was spottin then on monday heavy red now its turned a prune like color and i think i can smell somethin not right,ive had no clots a lil crampin ive not had any thread like blood like u try keep ur chin up its so hard not 2 worry i wish some1 could just explain all we r goin through,2 stop the worrying.i really hope u and ur lil angel r ok

Maddie, I was in a similar position to you at 5 weeks. I had some bleeding (brown) and lots of period-like cramps. An early scan at 5 1/2 weeks showed an empty sac. I had to wait 10 days for another scan which showed a foetus with a heartbeat. It was just too early to see anything before that. Fingers crossed that things will be ok for you too.

5 weeks pregnant and bleeding

im in the same boat went to doctors this morning and he was like well because your period was 21/02/2012 we wont be able to see anything so i said can youdo a blood test to see if my pregnancy is growing and he said that isnt true he was useless i now have a blood test on monday next week just to seeif im still pregnant and i lost one at 9 weeks last september im so scared but reading this thread has give me some hope fingers toes eyes and everything crossed xxx

5 weeks pregnant and bleedin

hi all im 5 weeks gone now and after an internal scan i started to bleed this continued to the next day its not heavy blood just a pinkish/brown i have no paint ver very small clot i had none of this in my first pregnancy soooo frightened cant stop crying :'( really need some reassurance hope my little baby can pull threw this xx

5 weeks pregnant and bleeding

Hi everyone, I found out two weeks ago that I am pregnant again having miscarried last October at 8 weeks. My due date is 2nd December which makes me 5 weeks today. I woke up this morning to find a small amount of blood when I wiped, burst into tears and took myself straight back to bed for the day. There hasn't been any more blood since but I am still having small cramping feelings. I'm expecting the worse but have found the posts on this sight quite comforting and I'm feeling a bit more positive now. I have a docs appointment wednesday (already booked) so going to sit tight until then. Thanks Debs

Hi

Hi.. I've just been reading all the posts. I'm 18 and this is my first pregnancy, my last period was on the 15 th of jan and I took a test in February which said I was about 6 weeks pregnant. I started bleeding on the 20 th of march.. I thought I was about 10 weeks at this time. I went to a+e as soon as bleeding started they examined me and told me the cervix had closed so they sent me home and told me to go back in two days. I went back on the 22nd of march and in the scan they told me that the pregnancy sac was there and I was only measuring 5 weeks! This does not make sense to me. They told me to come back in two weeks so I am now waiting for my scan which is on Wednesday, I am still bleeding but it is a bit lighter than a period with a few pains here and there! I am so scared, my sister is also pregnant at the same time. So I hope everything is ok, I just wouldn't cope! Any help? thanks jess xx

I am 5 weeks and 2 days pregnant. Went to the doctors today and booked my first midwife appt which felt good. Came home and have started to bleed - its not heavy and I have no cramps. Still so scary though and really worried. i spoke to the doctors and they said there is nothing they can do at this stage as is it is too early for the baby to show up on a scan - so it is simply a case of waiting and seeing.

My emotions are all over the place at the moment and i just wish i knew what was going on - just fingers crossed the bleeding doesnt get any heavier.

I'm going through exactly the same thing, I'm just over 4 weeks and started spotting friday which led to a heavy bleed over saturday (just like pmt) then it eased over sunday, stopped yesterday and the spotting is back today, doc has booked me in for a scan next wed. I'v miscarried before and this was nothing like it, I had no pain and no clots and the blood was completely different to my m/c this seemed like a short period, I tested positive yesterday and the day before (although they were faint but a little darker than the ones I'd done during the week) but today I tested again and got a negative It was a different test and I'm praying it was wrong but thinking the worst, I know with my previous m/c i tested negative the day after I started bleeding. I still feel pregnant and I'm hoping I still am but I now have doubt in my mind that I'v had an early m/c, really hope everything is fine for you, it all sounds like its going well so far! Tess x

I went for scan today and got told I have miscarried the baby.. I am devastated! Hope everything works out for you all, it's not a nice feeling at all! I don't know what to do with myself! people keep asking me if I'm ok and it just gets on my nerves.. I am so upset! Good luck all.. x

really really sorry to hear that. you are highly fertile after m/c and I fell again 2-3 weeks after my m/c and had a healthy pregnancy, hope that happens for you too!! I know how hard it is and you will never get over it but time will help heal your heart. My friend sent me this to help me find comfort after my m/c, it might bring comfort to you to

4 weeks gone and bleeding

Hi I am 4 weeks pg and am bleeding after 5 miscarriages am terrified!! It doesn't feel like a miscarriage and I still feel 'pregnant' there is no pain it's just like a period but lighter. I am currently undergoing tests for the others and get some results Friday, I can see people on here have had/are having similar experiences to myself but reading this has a least given me a glimmer of hope or am I completely wrong??? Thank you xx

Hi I am 4 weeks pg and am bleeding after 5 miscarriages am terrified!! It doesn't feel like a miscarriage and I still feel 'pregnant' there is no pain it's just like a period but lighter. I am currently undergoing tests for the others and get some results Friday, I can see people on here have had/are having similar experiences to myself but reading this has a least given me a glimmer of hope or am I completely wrong??? Thank you xx

Hi hun,

So sorry to hear about your MC's

At 4 weeks pg you could be getting implantation bleeding. I had bleeding at 3 weeks +6 which lasted to the next day. it was very light and generally brown in colour (sorry if tmi!) but after a MC myself I was terrified too. I really thought that it was just going to get heavy and painful and I would loose this bean too- However to give you hope, it stopped, and I called my Dr to tell him, and he thought it was prob implantation bleeding. 30% of women get implantation bleeding so not all that uncommon. I'm 5+2 now and def feel preggers!

I really hope that its IB and things are settling down for you. That said please tell your Dr Friday, if not before, just so they can keep an eye on it for you,

At 4 weeks pg you could be getting implantation bleeding. I had bleeding at 3 weeks +6 which lasted to the next day. it was very light and generally brown in colour (sorry if tmi!) but after a MC myself I was terrified too. I really thought that it was just going to get heavy and painful and I would loose this bean too- However to give you hope, it stopped, and I called my Dr to tell him, and he thought it was prob implantation bleeding. 30% of women get implantation bleeding so not all that uncommon. I'm 5+2 now and def feel preggers!

I really hope that its IB and things are settling down for you. That said please tell your Dr Friday, if not before, just so they can keep an eye on it for you,

wishing you all the best, keeping everything crossed for you xx

Hi just done a pg test and it looks like its negative will tell them Friday but it looks like that's pretty much us done trying don't think either of us can take much more Hun. The bleeding has been off again on again today I don't know the 'pregnancy' feeling is still there xxxxx thank you xxxxxxx

Hi just done a pg test and it looks like its negative will tell them Friday but it looks like that's pretty much us done trying don't think either of us can take much more Hun. The bleeding has been off again on again today I don't know the 'pregnancy' feeling is still there xxxxx thank you xxxxxxx

I'm so sorry hun

but if the pregnancy feeling is still there then maybe there is still hope? Did you take the pg test in the morning? maybe it came up as negative as your wee may have been more dilute perhaps?

I hope that they have some answers for you Friday, and that there is something that they can do to help you.

Just An Update

Hi all just a quick update, looks like that negative test I got in April may have been a false negative seems I am still pregnant after all!! Done 4 clearblue tests that will only detect 4 days before and all were positive over a week before AF is due!!!!!! Sooo excited only problem is I get married in August lol cheers girls for your support xxxxxx

Bleeding after scan. 2 positive scans. Worried

Hi ladies. I am pregnant apparangly 5/6 weeks which shocked me as my last period was on 28/2. And i have had a scan after bleeding after my tests. Ive had previous miscarriages so i am scared. But my fiancè is very caring, but still bleeding slightly (only when i wipe sorry for tmi! Not on underwear and im crampy but not in pain if this makes sense. The scan i was happy with little bubs is in yok sac inside other sac. And has attached nicely. Just cant help but worry. Next scan is on 29/4 can anyone relate? Be nice to talk to other mums x

I was 4wks, 5 days yesterday. I had very mild lower abdominal ache for about 2 days, then slight bleed yesterday morning. No contact at gp / midwives, so called 111. Went and saw a dr at brisdoc in Bristol. She was fabulous. Sorry to say we lost our little one. Couldn't fault the service and support we had from her. If you have any bleeding / pain, it's always best to get it checked out, just so you know.

Hi I'm in a similar boat, am about 6 weeks, was a very big surprise as not trying. This is the. 3 rd morning of bleeding but it seems to subside through the day to nothing in the evening and is nothing much, just when I wipe but is red which is what's worrying me. Have had a few aches in my stomach but have nothing to compare this with as I never get period pains.
Went to the doctor in the week before bleeding started and he wasn't very helpful, just told me to go to the practice nurse this week to confirm pg. now don't really know what to do with bleeding as it's the weekend? Help? Do I wait it out til Monday. Dont really want to go to A&e.

4/5 weeks pregnant and light bleeding

Hi Everyone,

I am looking for some reassurance as I had a miscarraige 3 months ago and now thankfully I'm pregnant again but today I started with brown mucus like spotting when I wiped (lasted about an hour) then throughout the day very very light discolouration discharge. Part of me is telling myself that it will be ok, but after the miscarraige at 8 weeks last time I'm going out of my mind with worry.

Can anyone offer advise/stories or reassurance? (This is my second pregnancy)

Easier said than done but try not to think the worst. Ive had 2 miscarriages and bright red blood at 11 weeks. I'm now 19 weeks with a healthy bump( no reason for bleed) would always say to speak to your Gp just to check but remember our bodies can have all sorts of aches and pains right from the beginning xx

6 weeks and 1 day pregnant with twins both sacs empty

Im pregnant scan says im 6 weeks and 1 day pregnant with 2 sacs but both are empty had doctor's appointment yesterday woke up this morning and there was bright red blood in my undies went to see my obgyn he sent me to the lab to get blood drawn to check my hgc level and I have to go back to the lab again on wednesday to get blood drawn again. I have. Another doctors appointment on Thursday for another scan and to see if my hgc level is rising, has anybody else experienced this because I never have I already have 5 kids and didn't experience this with any of my pregnancies, what's going on am I having a miscarriage? Will my babies be okay, I have a whole week to stress and worry

Hi

Im 5weeks pregnant and iv started bleeding only light but no clots i had a scan on friday and everyfink was fine then started bleeding and im not sure if im m/c i went to hospital but they just sent me home and booked me in for scan on tuesday

At 5 weeks if its light it could be implantation hun x reason they send you away is unfortunately nothing can be done. I've had 2 miscarriages and a stillborn. Its horrible. But I have also had a pregnancy with A LOT of bleeding and bubs was fine. So just keep your fingers crossed and rest. Feet up xx unless your bleeding gets heavy to the point of filling a pad an hour. Then u need to go in. Best of luck xx

I'm 5 weeks and 3 days

Hey I'm bleeding too at 5 weeks and 3 days been bleeding almost a week now no pain but small clots went docs last week got a hcg blood test Friday I'm starting to get the Sicky feeling and my boobs are getting bigger than they were although were already big as two other children
I bled a week and abit with my first but he is fine and 2 years old next month.
This is worrying I'm scared I may of lost bubba after 7 months of trying to conceive
I also have a blood disorder called vonwillibrand its where my blood doesn't clot

Around 5 wks and bleeding

Hi,
Found out I am pregnant and thought to be around 5wks but a week later I got up to find I was bleeding.
My GP sent me to the assessment ward where I had another pregnancy test done which was positive, then had an external and internal scan done which showed something but they couldnt work out if it was a sac or a clot. And maybe more newly pregnant than first thought.
I had an internal examination done which concluded I am actively bleeding from the cervix and a blood test to measure the hcg levels which came back high and am booked in for another scan on the 27th to see if a heartbeat can be detected.

I have read other posts and you all seem to mention cramps or pain but I havent experianced any real pain just a dull ache.... I have 4 other children and had no labour pain with 3 of them, felt no contractions just an urge to push, could this be why I feel no cramps?

Reading these posts and their outcomes, our minds have been eased slightly as we were led to believe the worst had happened but fingers crossed.

5 and half weeks and been having brown staining for 2weeks

Hi there wondering if anyone has had same thing as me . I have alittle boy at 2 and never experienced this with him but I found out I was pregnant 2 weeks ago and from then I had brown discharge over the 2 weeks it's got lighter but still a scary thought incase something is wrong

Bleeding at 8 weeks

I just wanted to share my story here.
I was bleeding quite heavily on&off, from brown staining to full on period like flow from week 8 till the 5th month. It was diagnosed as subchorionic haematoma in the antenatal unit. a&e the night before was a complete waste of time with a 5 hour wait for a GP who basically said it could be a miscarriage and to come back for a scan. It wasn't a good night that night.

In the following months I had to go to the hospital for scans when I wanted to check all was fine with the baby, waiting for 4-5 hours each time. It was a really difficult time. I was in constant pain, completely exhausted from tiredness and very worried. The bleeding stopped after a few weeks, then started a couple of weeks later again, and that went on for months. I cut down work (I'm self employed so could do that without a doctor's note) to a minimum and slept most of the time.

The general advice in the UK is to carry on as normal. In Germany f.ex. it's to stop work, partial bed rest and progesterone. I chose a mix of little activity and lots of rest, also because I was feeling ill, and any strenuous activity made me bleed more.

Gladly, our daughter went through it all untouched. She is 5 months old now, and happy as could be, very strong and content!

Looking back, it was a nightmare pregnancy, and the lack of support from GPs and midwifes (who generally had to look up sch themselves) was hard. But it had a happy end!

4 weeks 5 days possibly?

Hi. Sorry for jumping on this group chat. But I need help. My husband and I have been TTC for a year now and nothing. Then this week I was late, I'm never late. Did a HPT which was negative but I felt different, super tired, peeing a lot a a little sicky. So I waited another 2 days and did another HPT again negative. Then last night I had some pale pink blood, not a lot. Then a little more that was a bit brighter. This morning it is super dark and clotted. I am usually a super heavy period person. I am not sure if this can be implantation or if it is just my period. I need help please xxx I want this baby so badly I'm beginning to think im going a tad crazy. Thank you

Pregnancy bleeding

Hi I wonder if anyone could give me some advice I'm currently 4 weeks pregnant but woke up today with heavy bleeding and a few clots, Iv been having cramping too.... Has anyone experienced this at 4 weeks and been okay or has it resulted in miscarriage? Thanks x