The new TARDIS interior - thoughts?

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One of the reasons there haven't been many Tardis interior scenes is they didn't even finish building it until late in the shoot. IMO they should have had the Tardis completely lost for a good while, and made this series more of a quest to get the companions home.

I heard that rumour too.

Frankly, make a good one or don’t bother!.... I would not have liked the TARDIS to be absent as you suggest, as its one of the main features of the show... but at least take some time to create something decent - and if that means we had to wait a few episodes to see it, then fine it would have been worth the wait.

One of the reasons there haven't been many Tardis interior scenes is they didn't even finish building it until late in the shoot. IMO they should have had the Tardis completely lost for a good while, and made this series more of a quest to get the companions home.

I don't buy that as a reason. They were not broadcasting episodes before the set was finished, Tardis scenes could be filmed at the end and then placed into the episodes.

One of the reasons there haven't been many Tardis interior scenes is they didn't even finish building it until late in the shoot. IMO they should have had the Tardis completely lost for a good while, and made this series more of a quest to get the companions home.

I don't buy that as a reason. They were not broadcasting episodes before the set was finished, Tardis scenes could be filmed at the end and then placed into the episodes.

You’d have thought that on a production of Dr Who, where the TARDIS set is... somewhat integral to the show in general, that they would have made sure the set was ready and up to spec in time.

I have heard there were issues, and it does really seem like this is plausible due to the staggeringly small amount of screen time that has been dedicated to it this series.

There have been no real “standing around chatting in the TARDIS” scenes at all - whether you are a fan of these or not - there is nowhere really in this console room they can do that without hitting their head on a damn big stupid waggling plastic pylon.

If I were the set designer, I’d feel a bit hard done by to be fair... although perhaps to compensate him they have massively overused his sonic screwdriver prop design

As I’ve said before, this is a pale imitation of a decent set, and vastly inferior to the last one. A shame they felt the need to change it when the old one could have been redressed at a much cheaper cost.

Well, my final whinge for the new TARDIS set. Episode 10 had it featured in a small way but probably the most screen time in any episode this series (albeit a matter of minutes at best). We weren't treated to any closeups of spinning hourglasses, glass tardis models, or wagging plastic pylons.

Id love to think that they will re-do the interior for series 12 - although with filming due to start next month I guess they have little chance to fix it.

Mostly, in the last few years the Smith/Capaldi set was redressed every series with things being changed and added every time. Of course its too much to hope that here will be yet another new console room set built for series 12, Im hopeful that the existing set will have many of its shortcomings addressed.

Well, my final whinge for the new TARDIS set. Episode 10 had it featured in a small way but probably the most screen time in any episode this series (albeit a matter of minutes at best). We weren't treated to any closeups of spinning hourglasses, glass tardis models, or wagging plastic pylons.

Id love to think that they will re-do the interior for series 12 - although with filming due to start next month I guess they have little chance to fix it.

Mostly, in the last few years the Smith/Capaldi set was redressed every series with things being changed and added every time. Of course its too much to hope that here will be yet another new console room set built for series 12, Im hopeful that the existing set will have many of its shortcomings addressed.

Weird how the "gimmicks" they introduced have been forgotten about. You go to all that effort for example to have a custard cream dispenser, then show it only once

Well, my final whinge for the new TARDIS set. Episode 10 had it featured in a small way but probably the most screen time in any episode this series (albeit a matter of minutes at best). We weren't treated to any closeups of spinning hourglasses, glass tardis models, or wagging plastic pylons.

Id love to think that they will re-do the interior for series 12 - although with filming due to start next month I guess they have little chance to fix it.

Mostly, in the last few years the Smith/Capaldi set was redressed every series with things being changed and added every time. Of course its too much to hope that here will be yet another new console room set built for series 12, Im hopeful that the existing set will have many of its shortcomings addressed.

Weird how the "gimmicks" they introduced have been forgotten about. You go to all that effort for example to have a custard cream dispenser, then show it only once

Thats a good point and illustrates the problem as a whole. Someone, somewhere put a lot of "effort" in designing, then building a mechanism that was foot pedal activated and dispensed a custard cream. As 'daft' as that seems to have a custard cream dispenser on the new console... it does go to show that it was a complete waste of time and effort as it could hardly have a narrative reason for being there in any story. "quick, I need a custard cream".... i mean really!!

This sentiment actually applies to the whole of the TARDIS set in series 11. Its barely been seen and rarely in closeup and never for long....

Heres hoping there are some significant improvements for series 12.

Just for fun, and keeping things as realistic as possible (i.e. no complete re-build!) here's my list of a few things they could address with a modest budget and the changes you might hope to see:

1. Brighter, clearer lighting with associated infrastructure changes to cover any nasty holes this might highlight. (build some better interior walls instead of relying on darkness to hide it).
2. A visible exit door from the console room to the rest of the TARDIS. Although 9/10's didn't manage this I think its essential to have and show.
3. Doors opening inside the TARDIS in the same manner as the classic console room. Press a button and the doors swing open.
4. Quietly ditch the gimmicks - custard cream dispenser, spinning TARDIS model and hourglasses.
5. Put some actual controls on the console. There are no buttons to press to fly the ship - a couple of small wheels and switches aren't sufficient.
6. Re-build the crystal elements out of something that looks more like glass than plastic.
7. Re-engineer the 'time rotor' mechanism - its just looks wrong with this huge chunk of crystal effect plastic wobbling up and down in the background.
8. This is a push.. but build a corridor, and another room in the TARDIS such as the Doctor's workshop - you could have a great tracking shot of walking and talking from outside, through the main doors, past the console, into a corridor, and ending up in the workshop. it wold make the TARDIS feel so much more realistic.

So all the above I believe are simple, cheap and easily achieved in-between series.... then perhaps we can have some more screen time to one of the key elements in Doctor Who... the TARDIS !!

Well, my final whinge for the new TARDIS set. Episode 10 had it featured in a small way but probably the most screen time in any episode this series (albeit a matter of minutes at best). We weren't treated to any closeups of spinning hourglasses, glass tardis models, or wagging plastic pylons.

Id love to think that they will re-do the interior for series 12 - although with filming due to start next month I guess they have little chance to fix it.

Mostly, in the last few years the Smith/Capaldi set was redressed every series with things being changed and added every time. Of course its too much to hope that here will be yet another new console room set built for series 12, Im hopeful that the existing set will have many of its shortcomings addressed.

Weird how the "gimmicks" they introduced have been forgotten about. You go to all that effort for example to have a custard cream dispenser, then show it only once

Thats a good point and illustrates the problem as a whole. Someone, somewhere put a lot of "effort" in designing, then building a mechanism that was foot pedal activated and dispensed a custard cream. As 'daft' as that seems to have a custard cream dispenser on the new console... it does go to show that it was a complete waste of time and effort as it could hardly have a narrative reason for being there in any story. "quick, I need a custard cream".... i mean really!!

This sentiment actually applies to the whole of the TARDIS set in series 11. Its barely been seen and rarely in closeup and never for long....

Heres hoping there are some significant improvements for series 12.

Just for fun, and keeping things as realistic as possible (i.e. no complete re-build!) here's my list of a few things they could address with a modest budget and the changes you might hope to see:

1. Brighter, clearer lighting with associated infrastructure changes to cover any nasty holes this might highlight. (build some better interior walls instead of relying on darkness to hide it).
2. A visible exit door from the console room to the rest of the TARDIS. Although 9/10's didn't manage this I think its essential to have and show.
3. Doors opening inside the TARDIS in the same manner as the classic console room. Press a button and the doors swing open.
4. Quietly ditch the gimmicks - custard cream dispenser, spinning TARDIS model and hourglasses.
5. Put some actual controls on the console. There are no buttons to press to fly the ship - a couple of small wheels and switches aren't sufficient.
6. Re-build the crystal elements out of something that looks more like glass than plastic.
7. Re-engineer the 'time rotor' mechanism - its just looks wrong with this huge chunk of crystal effect plastic wobbling up and down in the background.
8. This is a push.. but build a corridor, and another room in the TARDIS such as the Doctor's workshop - you could have a great tracking shot of walking and talking from outside, through the main doors, past the console, into a corridor, and ending up in the workshop. it wold make the TARDIS feel so much more realistic.

So all the above I believe are simple, cheap and easily achieved in-between series.... then perhaps we can have some more screen time to one of the key elements in Doctor Who... the TARDIS !!

Seeing that Chibnall has gone back to the Davison era set up with 3 Companions, why not have the extended Tardis set as well where you can go through the console room and through another door into a corridor with bedrooms and other rooms off it. If the BBC could do it in as a temporary set in TV centre, it shouldn't be too hard to do in Roath Lock

One of the curios of this series is that the regulars have never dressed up (historical costumes, space suits etc), but then we've never seen the Tardis wardrobe either!

Well, my final whinge for the new TARDIS set. Episode 10 had it featured in a small way but probably the most screen time in any episode this series (albeit a matter of minutes at best). We weren't treated to any closeups of spinning hourglasses, glass tardis models, or wagging plastic pylons.

Id love to think that they will re-do the interior for series 12 - although with filming due to start next month I guess they have little chance to fix it.

Mostly, in the last few years the Smith/Capaldi set was redressed every series with things being changed and added every time. Of course its too much to hope that here will be yet another new console room set built for series 12, Im hopeful that the existing set will have many of its shortcomings addressed.

Weird how the "gimmicks" they introduced have been forgotten about. You go to all that effort for example to have a custard cream dispenser, then show it only once

Thats a good point and illustrates the problem as a whole. Someone, somewhere put a lot of "effort" in designing, then building a mechanism that was foot pedal activated and dispensed a custard cream. As 'daft' as that seems to have a custard cream dispenser on the new console... it does go to show that it was a complete waste of time and effort as it could hardly have a narrative reason for being there in any story. "quick, I need a custard cream".... i mean really!!

This sentiment actually applies to the whole of the TARDIS set in series 11. Its barely been seen and rarely in closeup and never for long....

Heres hoping there are some significant improvements for series 12.

Just for fun, and keeping things as realistic as possible (i.e. no complete re-build!) here's my list of a few things they could address with a modest budget and the changes you might hope to see:

1. Brighter, clearer lighting with associated infrastructure changes to cover any nasty holes this might highlight. (build some better interior walls instead of relying on darkness to hide it).
2. A visible exit door from the console room to the rest of the TARDIS. Although 9/10's didn't manage this I think its essential to have and show.
3. Doors opening inside the TARDIS in the same manner as the classic console room. Press a button and the doors swing open.
4. Quietly ditch the gimmicks - custard cream dispenser, spinning TARDIS model and hourglasses.
5. Put some actual controls on the console. There are no buttons to press to fly the ship - a couple of small wheels and switches aren't sufficient.
6. Re-build the crystal elements out of something that looks more like glass than plastic.
7. Re-engineer the 'time rotor' mechanism - its just looks wrong with this huge chunk of crystal effect plastic wobbling up and down in the background.
8. This is a push.. but build a corridor, and another room in the TARDIS such as the Doctor's workshop - you could have a great tracking shot of walking and talking from outside, through the main doors, past the console, into a corridor, and ending up in the workshop. it wold make the TARDIS feel so much more realistic.

So all the above I believe are simple, cheap and easily achieved in-between series.... then perhaps we can have some more screen time to one of the key elements in Doctor Who... the TARDIS !!

Seeing that Chibnall has gone back to the Davison era set up with 3 Companions, why not have the extended Tardis set as well where you can go through the console room and through another door into a corridor with bedrooms and other rooms off it. If the BBC could do it in as a temporary set in TV centre, it shouldn't be too hard to do in Roath Lock

One of the curios of this series is that the regulars have never dressed up (historical costumes, space suits etc), but then we've never seen the Tardis wardrobe either!

bib

Yes, we have - many times in fact. Last one I recall (and the ONLY time in 2005 onwards) was in the Christmas invasion where 10 chose his outfit. That was of course a heavily redressed and CGI enhanced re-use of the console room - but effective none the less. In previous series we have been in whatever they deem the wardrobe room a number of times too - I recall 7's outfit also came from there with the Rani present disguised as Mel.

Well, my final whinge for the new TARDIS set. Episode 10 had it featured in a small way but probably the most screen time in any episode this series (albeit a matter of minutes at best). We weren't treated to any closeups of spinning hourglasses, glass tardis models, or wagging plastic pylons.

Id love to think that they will re-do the interior for series 12 - although with filming due to start next month I guess they have little chance to fix it.

Mostly, in the last few years the Smith/Capaldi set was redressed every series with things being changed and added every time. Of course its too much to hope that here will be yet another new console room set built for series 12, Im hopeful that the existing set will have many of its shortcomings addressed.

Weird how the "gimmicks" they introduced have been forgotten about. You go to all that effort for example to have a custard cream dispenser, then show it only once

Thats a good point and illustrates the problem as a whole. Someone, somewhere put a lot of "effort" in designing, then building a mechanism that was foot pedal activated and dispensed a custard cream. As 'daft' as that seems to have a custard cream dispenser on the new console... it does go to show that it was a complete waste of time and effort as it could hardly have a narrative reason for being there in any story. "quick, I need a custard cream".... i mean really!!

This sentiment actually applies to the whole of the TARDIS set in series 11. Its barely been seen and rarely in closeup and never for long....

Heres hoping there are some significant improvements for series 12.

Just for fun, and keeping things as realistic as possible (i.e. no complete re-build!) here's my list of a few things they could address with a modest budget and the changes you might hope to see:

1. Brighter, clearer lighting with associated infrastructure changes to cover any nasty holes this might highlight. (build some better interior walls instead of relying on darkness to hide it).
2. A visible exit door from the console room to the rest of the TARDIS. Although 9/10's didn't manage this I think its essential to have and show.
3. Doors opening inside the TARDIS in the same manner as the classic console room. Press a button and the doors swing open.
4. Quietly ditch the gimmicks - custard cream dispenser, spinning TARDIS model and hourglasses.
5. Put some actual controls on the console. There are no buttons to press to fly the ship - a couple of small wheels and switches aren't sufficient.
6. Re-build the crystal elements out of something that looks more like glass than plastic.
7. Re-engineer the 'time rotor' mechanism - its just looks wrong with this huge chunk of crystal effect plastic wobbling up and down in the background.
8. This is a push.. but build a corridor, and another room in the TARDIS such as the Doctor's workshop - you could have a great tracking shot of walking and talking from outside, through the main doors, past the console, into a corridor, and ending up in the workshop. it wold make the TARDIS feel so much more realistic.

So all the above I believe are simple, cheap and easily achieved in-between series.... then perhaps we can have some more screen time to one of the key elements in Doctor Who... the TARDIS !!

Seeing that Chibnall has gone back to the Davison era set up with 3 Companions, why not have the extended Tardis set as well where you can go through the console room and through another door into a corridor with bedrooms and other rooms off it. If the BBC could do it in as a temporary set in TV centre, it shouldn't be too hard to do in Roath Lock

One of the curios of this series is that the regulars have never dressed up (historical costumes, space suits etc), but then we've never seen the Tardis wardrobe either!

bib

Yes, we have - many times in fact. Last one I recall (and the ONLY time in 2005 onwards) was in the Christmas invasion where 10 chose his outfit. That was of course a heavily redressed and CGI enhanced re-use of the console room - but effective none the less. In previous series we have been in whatever they deem the wardrobe room a number of times too - I recall 7's outfit also came from there with the Rani present disguised as Mel.

I meant in this series!

The Classic series often showed the Doctor choosing his outfit, e.g. both 5 and 6 as well

Other than Tennant, we saw 11 choosing his new look (to impress Clara!) in The Bells of Saint John, but that was from a hatch underneath the Tardis Console Room

Well, my final whinge for the new TARDIS set. Episode 10 had it featured in a small way but probably the most screen time in any episode this series (albeit a matter of minutes at best). We weren't treated to any closeups of spinning hourglasses, glass tardis models, or wagging plastic pylons.

Id love to think that they will re-do the interior for series 12 - although with filming due to start next month I guess they have little chance to fix it.

Mostly, in the last few years the Smith/Capaldi set was redressed every series with things being changed and added every time. Of course its too much to hope that here will be yet another new console room set built for series 12, Im hopeful that the existing set will have many of its shortcomings addressed.

Weird how the "gimmicks" they introduced have been forgotten about. You go to all that effort for example to have a custard cream dispenser, then show it only once

Thats a good point and illustrates the problem as a whole. Someone, somewhere put a lot of "effort" in designing, then building a mechanism that was foot pedal activated and dispensed a custard cream. As 'daft' as that seems to have a custard cream dispenser on the new console... it does go to show that it was a complete waste of time and effort as it could hardly have a narrative reason for being there in any story. "quick, I need a custard cream".... i mean really!!

This sentiment actually applies to the whole of the TARDIS set in series 11. Its barely been seen and rarely in closeup and never for long....

Heres hoping there are some significant improvements for series 12.

Just for fun, and keeping things as realistic as possible (i.e. no complete re-build!) here's my list of a few things they could address with a modest budget and the changes you might hope to see:

1. Brighter, clearer lighting with associated infrastructure changes to cover any nasty holes this might highlight. (build some better interior walls instead of relying on darkness to hide it).
2. A visible exit door from the console room to the rest of the TARDIS. Although 9/10's didn't manage this I think its essential to have and show.
3. Doors opening inside the TARDIS in the same manner as the classic console room. Press a button and the doors swing open.
4. Quietly ditch the gimmicks - custard cream dispenser, spinning TARDIS model and hourglasses.
5. Put some actual controls on the console. There are no buttons to press to fly the ship - a couple of small wheels and switches aren't sufficient.
6. Re-build the crystal elements out of something that looks more like glass than plastic.
7. Re-engineer the 'time rotor' mechanism - its just looks wrong with this huge chunk of crystal effect plastic wobbling up and down in the background.
8. This is a push.. but build a corridor, and another room in the TARDIS such as the Doctor's workshop - you could have a great tracking shot of walking and talking from outside, through the main doors, past the console, into a corridor, and ending up in the workshop. it wold make the TARDIS feel so much more realistic.

So all the above I believe are simple, cheap and easily achieved in-between series.... then perhaps we can have some more screen time to one of the key elements in Doctor Who... the TARDIS !!

Seeing that Chibnall has gone back to the Davison era set up with 3 Companions, why not have the extended Tardis set as well where you can go through the console room and through another door into a corridor with bedrooms and other rooms off it. If the BBC could do it in as a temporary set in TV centre, it shouldn't be too hard to do in Roath Lock

One of the curios of this series is that the regulars have never dressed up (historical costumes, space suits etc), but then we've never seen the Tardis wardrobe either!

bib

Yes, we have - many times in fact. Last one I recall (and the ONLY time in 2005 onwards) was in the Christmas invasion where 10 chose his outfit. That was of course a heavily redressed and CGI enhanced re-use of the console room - but effective none the less. In previous series we have been in whatever they deem the wardrobe room a number of times too - I recall 7's outfit also came from there with the Rani present disguised as Mel.

I meant in this series!

The Classic series often showed the Doctor choosing his outfit, e.g. both 5 and 6 as well

Other than Tennant, we saw 11 choosing his new look (to impress Clara!) in The Bells of Saint John, but that was from a hatch underneath the Tardis Console Room

Well to be honest with you, if they do actually build more of the TARDIS, the wardrobe would be quite far down my list of rooms id like to see.

Wouldnt be hard to make a generic corridor and a generic room and redress it as required - companions bedrooms / workshops etc

Given that the Doctor has been rather forgetful since her regeneration they could play it as a joke in the next series that she forgot there's more to the TARDIS than the Console room.

S12 Ep1
Graham leans against a section of wall and it spins around letting him into the rest of the TARDIS, the rest of the FAM don't see this and think he's been teleported away once they realise he's gone.

Graham returns hours later with tales of Infinite Libraries, swimming pools, a room containing 1000's of sheep and a copy of Wembley Stadium where he met the 1954 FA Cup winning West Han United team who have been waiting a while for the Doctor to drop them back to Earth.

Yaz and Ryan don't believe what he's saying until the Doctor admits there is more to the TARDIS than what they have seen.

Given that the Doctor has been rather forgetful since her regeneration they could play it as a joke in the next series that she forgot there's more to the TARDIS than the Console room.

S12 Ep1
Graham leans against a section of wall and it spins around letting him into the rest of the TARDIS, the rest of the FAM don't see this and think he's been teleported away once they realise he's gone.

Graham returns hours later with tales of Infinite Libraries, swimming pools, a room containing 1000's of sheep and a copy of Wembley Stadium where he met the 1954 FA Cup winning West Han United team who have been waiting a while for the Doctor to drop them back to Earth.

Yaz and Ryan don't believe what he's saying until the Doctor admits there is more to the TARDIS than what they have seen.

Given that the Doctor has been rather forgetful since her regeneration they could play it as a joke in the next series that she forgot there's more to the TARDIS than the Console room.

S12 Ep1
Graham leans against a section of wall and it spins around letting him into the rest of the TARDIS, the rest of the FAM don't see this and think he's been teleported away once they realise he's gone.

Graham returns hours later with tales of Infinite Libraries, swimming pools, a room containing 1000's of sheep and a copy of Wembley Stadium where he met the 1954 FA Cup winning West Han United team who have been waiting a while for the Doctor to drop them back to Earth.

Yaz and Ryan don't believe what he's saying until the Doctor admits there is more to the TARDIS than what they have seen.

They can pay as much lip service to the infinite interior of the TARDIS as they like... but that's not good enough - need it to be shown. At the very least put in some doors in the set to hint that there's more to the huge interior than some cramped dark and dingy cave!

They managed it in the last 2 sets - actually quite effectively. There were a number of visible exits in 11's first set, and often characters would be seen ascending or descending the stairs on their way to or from other parts of the TARDIS. 12's also had not one but 4 "doors" leading off from the console room.

Its not exactly hard to build these things into the set, and adds to the sense of scale which something like the TARDIS desperately needs.

Can you imagine the classic console room without that door at the back of it? It would have totally taken away from the illusion that the TARDIS interior was huge if you just had the walls of the console room visible.

Well, my final whinge for the new TARDIS set. Episode 10 had it featured in a small way but probably the most screen time in any episode this series (albeit a matter of minutes at best). We weren't treated to any closeups of spinning hourglasses, glass tardis models, or wagging plastic pylons.

Id love to think that they will re-do the interior for series 12 - although with filming due to start next month I guess they have little chance to fix it.

Mostly, in the last few years the Smith/Capaldi set was redressed every series with things being changed and added every time. Of course its too much to hope that here will be yet another new console room set built for series 12, Im hopeful that the existing set will have many of its shortcomings addressed.

Weird how the "gimmicks" they introduced have been forgotten about. You go to all that effort for example to have a custard cream dispenser, then show it only once

Thats a good point and illustrates the problem as a whole. Someone, somewhere put a lot of "effort" in designing, then building a mechanism that was foot pedal activated and dispensed a custard cream. As 'daft' as that seems to have a custard cream dispenser on the new console... it does go to show that it was a complete waste of time and effort as it could hardly have a narrative reason for being there in any story. "quick, I need a custard cream".... i mean really!!

This sentiment actually applies to the whole of the TARDIS set in series 11. Its barely been seen and rarely in closeup and never for long....

Heres hoping there are some significant improvements for series 12.

Just for fun, and keeping things as realistic as possible (i.e. no complete re-build!) here's my list of a few things they could address with a modest budget and the changes you might hope to see:

1. Brighter, clearer lighting with associated infrastructure changes to cover any nasty holes this might highlight. (build some better interior walls instead of relying on darkness to hide it).
2. A visible exit door from the console room to the rest of the TARDIS. Although 9/10's didn't manage this I think its essential to have and show.
3. Doors opening inside the TARDIS in the same manner as the classic console room. Press a button and the doors swing open.
4. Quietly ditch the gimmicks - custard cream dispenser, spinning TARDIS model and hourglasses.
5. Put some actual controls on the console. There are no buttons to press to fly the ship - a couple of small wheels and switches aren't sufficient.
6. Re-build the crystal elements out of something that looks more like glass than plastic.
7. Re-engineer the 'time rotor' mechanism - its just looks wrong with this huge chunk of crystal effect plastic wobbling up and down in the background.
8. This is a push.. but build a corridor, and another room in the TARDIS such as the Doctor's workshop - you could have a great tracking shot of walking and talking from outside, through the main doors, past the console, into a corridor, and ending up in the workshop. it wold make the TARDIS feel so much more realistic.

So all the above I believe are simple, cheap and easily achieved in-between series.... then perhaps we can have some more screen time to one of the key elements in Doctor Who... the TARDIS !!

Seeing that Chibnall has gone back to the Davison era set up with 3 Companions, why not have the extended Tardis set as well where you can go through the console room and through another door into a corridor with bedrooms and other rooms off it. If the BBC could do it in as a temporary set in TV centre, it shouldn't be too hard to do in Roath Lock

One of the curios of this series is that the regulars have never dressed up (historical costumes, space suits etc), but then we've never seen the Tardis wardrobe either!

bib

Yes, we have - many times in fact. Last one I recall (and the ONLY time in 2005 onwards) was in the Christmas invasion where 10 chose his outfit. That was of course a heavily redressed and CGI enhanced re-use of the console room - but effective none the less. In previous series we have been in whatever they deem the wardrobe room a number of times too - I recall 7's outfit also came from there with the Rani present disguised as Mel.

I meant in this series!

The Classic series often showed the Doctor choosing his outfit, e.g. both 5 and 6 as well

Other than Tennant, we saw 11 choosing his new look (to impress Clara!) in The Bells of Saint John, but that was from a hatch underneath the Tardis Console Room

Well to be honest with you, if they do actually build more of the TARDIS, the wardrobe would be quite far down my list of rooms id like to see.

Wouldnt be hard to make a generic corridor and a generic room and redress it as required - companions bedrooms / workshops etc

I wasn't suggesting it was a crucial room, but the Classic series showing it (with all their restrictions on studio space) was as sign that they were keen to emphasise how the Tardis had many rooms other than just the console room.

Well, my final whinge for the new TARDIS set. Episode 10 had it featured in a small way but probably the most screen time in any episode this series (albeit a matter of minutes at best). We weren't treated to any closeups of spinning hourglasses, glass tardis models, or wagging plastic pylons.

Id love to think that they will re-do the interior for series 12 - although with filming due to start next month I guess they have little chance to fix it.

Mostly, in the last few years the Smith/Capaldi set was redressed every series with things being changed and added every time. Of course its too much to hope that here will be yet another new console room set built for series 12, Im hopeful that the existing set will have many of its shortcomings addressed.

Weird how the "gimmicks" they introduced have been forgotten about. You go to all that effort for example to have a custard cream dispenser, then show it only once

Thats a good point and illustrates the problem as a whole. Someone, somewhere put a lot of "effort" in designing, then building a mechanism that was foot pedal activated and dispensed a custard cream. As 'daft' as that seems to have a custard cream dispenser on the new console... it does go to show that it was a complete waste of time and effort as it could hardly have a narrative reason for being there in any story. "quick, I need a custard cream".... i mean really!!

This sentiment actually applies to the whole of the TARDIS set in series 11. Its barely been seen and rarely in closeup and never for long....

Heres hoping there are some significant improvements for series 12.

Just for fun, and keeping things as realistic as possible (i.e. no complete re-build!) here's my list of a few things they could address with a modest budget and the changes you might hope to see:

1. Brighter, clearer lighting with associated infrastructure changes to cover any nasty holes this might highlight. (build some better interior walls instead of relying on darkness to hide it).
2. A visible exit door from the console room to the rest of the TARDIS. Although 9/10's didn't manage this I think its essential to have and show.
3. Doors opening inside the TARDIS in the same manner as the classic console room. Press a button and the doors swing open.
4. Quietly ditch the gimmicks - custard cream dispenser, spinning TARDIS model and hourglasses.
5. Put some actual controls on the console. There are no buttons to press to fly the ship - a couple of small wheels and switches aren't sufficient.
6. Re-build the crystal elements out of something that looks more like glass than plastic.
7. Re-engineer the 'time rotor' mechanism - its just looks wrong with this huge chunk of crystal effect plastic wobbling up and down in the background.
8. This is a push.. but build a corridor, and another room in the TARDIS such as the Doctor's workshop - you could have a great tracking shot of walking and talking from outside, through the main doors, past the console, into a corridor, and ending up in the workshop. it wold make the TARDIS feel so much more realistic.

So all the above I believe are simple, cheap and easily achieved in-between series.... then perhaps we can have some more screen time to one of the key elements in Doctor Who... the TARDIS !!

Seeing that Chibnall has gone back to the Davison era set up with 3 Companions, why not have the extended Tardis set as well where you can go through the console room and through another door into a corridor with bedrooms and other rooms off it. If the BBC could do it in as a temporary set in TV centre, it shouldn't be too hard to do in Roath Lock

One of the curios of this series is that the regulars have never dressed up (historical costumes, space suits etc), but then we've never seen the Tardis wardrobe either!

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Yes, we have - many times in fact. Last one I recall (and the ONLY time in 2005 onwards) was in the Christmas invasion where 10 chose his outfit. That was of course a heavily redressed and CGI enhanced re-use of the console room - but effective none the less. In previous series we have been in whatever they deem the wardrobe room a number of times too - I recall 7's outfit also came from there with the Rani present disguised as Mel.

I meant in this series!

The Classic series often showed the Doctor choosing his outfit, e.g. both 5 and 6 as well

Other than Tennant, we saw 11 choosing his new look (to impress Clara!) in The Bells of Saint John, but that was from a hatch underneath the Tardis Console Room

Well to be honest with you, if they do actually build more of the TARDIS, the wardrobe would be quite far down my list of rooms id like to see.

Wouldnt be hard to make a generic corridor and a generic room and redress it as required - companions bedrooms / workshops etc

I wasn't suggesting it was a crucial room, but the Classic series showing it (with all their restrictions on studio space) was as sign that they were keen to emphasise how the Tardis had many rooms other than just the console room.

Having been lucky enough to visit the last set a couple of times, its actually housed in a very large room. The room itself (possibly for the sake of the visitors) was divided in half by a large curtain. On the other side of that curtain was where they build a lot of their temporary sets - its a big space.

The half that contained the old TARDIS set was only about 1/3 occupied by the set itself.... so they've plenty of studio space to build something bigger and more substantial.

It wasn't really on screen that much to think about until tonight but I noticed it earlier... like the TARDIS travel scenes it looks cheap and tacky.

There's that Poundworld style big plastic lump in the centre then the "we made this out of bits of MDF with a hinge in the middle" moving parts at the top that don't all move in sync so everything just looks "off"

Of all the things to try and emulate of Classic Doctor Who cheap set design is not one of them. It reminds me of a cave more than a piece of complex, hi-tech machinery. Not good.