Family that doesnt know your Atheist - Atheist Nexus2015-08-02T22:38:07Zhttp://atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/family-that-doesnt-know-your?commentId=2182797%3AComment%3A1250941&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noWell jencarlene, I'm not on h…tag:atheistnexus.org,2011-05-12:2182797:Comment:12568222011-05-12T10:20:38.575ZJohn Barretthttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/JohnBarrett
Well jencarlene, I'm not on here everyday making comments and don't read them everyday and wanted to apologize after someone clarified what u might have said as a misunderstanding. I wanted to apologize and didn't mean what I said but don't push the issue and keep getting smart. Its one of those things that was a misunderstanding so let it go. Sorry again.....JOHN
Well jencarlene, I'm not on here everyday making comments and don't read them everyday and wanted to apologize after someone clarified what u might have said as a misunderstanding. I wanted to apologize and didn't mean what I said but don't push the issue and keep getting smart. Its one of those things that was a misunderstanding so let it go. Sorry again.....JOHN I don't have the right words…tag:atheistnexus.org,2011-05-12:2182797:Comment:12566222011-05-12T05:00:44.244ZJen E.http://atheistnexus.org/profile/JencarleneEtoile
<p>I don't have the right words to say how sorry I am.</p>
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<p>I did mean we atheists have just as much right to express ourselves.</p>
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<p>and you are wrong, John.</p>
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<p>I dont need you talking to me like this.</p>
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<p>If you have a problem with me, take it up with AN and they can deal with me.</p>
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<p>Contrary to what you think, I am too someone who belongs here!</p>
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<p>(crying a little; really hurt my…</p>
<p>I don't have the right words to say how sorry I am.</p>
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<p>I did mean we atheists have just as much right to express ourselves.</p>
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<p>and you are wrong, John.</p>
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<p>I dont need you talking to me like this.</p>
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<p>If you have a problem with me, take it up with AN and they can deal with me.</p>
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<p>Contrary to what you think, I am too someone who belongs here!</p>
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<p>(crying a little; really hurt my feelngn!)</p>
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<p>Jen</p> I think mine have figured it…tag:atheistnexus.org,2011-05-11:2182797:Comment:12539172011-05-11T13:07:53.959Zmistercliffhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/CliffHansen
I think mine have figured it out via Facebook messages I've posted. Grandma's sending me more and more Bible Verses. Frankly I've avoided coming out as an atheist to them since I was worried about the stress it might bring them that I was going to hell, but it probably will need to come up eventually.<br></br>
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No offense to your Mom, but the "there's stupidity" comment is a strange one coming from someone who has invisible friends. Think of all the brilliant people who don't share such…
I think mine have figured it out via Facebook messages I've posted. Grandma's sending me more and more Bible Verses. Frankly I've avoided coming out as an atheist to them since I was worried about the stress it might bring them that I was going to hell, but it probably will need to come up eventually.<br/>
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No offense to your Mom, but the "there's stupidity" comment is a strange one coming from someone who has invisible friends. Think of all the brilliant people who don't share such delusions including EVERY SINGLE REPUTABLE SCIENTIST. People like Dawkins or Hitchens steal the light (although that's not to say they don't deserve it!), but all sorts of brilliant atheists are out there and our numbers are growing. Here's a wikipedia list of just some of the outed famous ones: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheists" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheists</a> You mentioned that your mom t…tag:atheistnexus.org,2011-05-09:2182797:Comment:12511242011-05-09T10:18:10.355Zpaul babcockhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/paulbabcock
You mentioned that your mom think that your soul is safe having ben baptized. That is what I was referring too when I mentioned the doctrine of "once saved always saved" that Baptists believe in. This works in our favor, imo. Worrying our moms over our imorral soul is one less thing we have to fret over. If they believe the doctrine that they profess to, then the future of our souls is something they needn't be too concerned with.<br />
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Anyway, presently you have the advantage of being able to…
You mentioned that your mom think that your soul is safe having ben baptized. That is what I was referring too when I mentioned the doctrine of "once saved always saved" that Baptists believe in. This works in our favor, imo. Worrying our moms over our imorral soul is one less thing we have to fret over. If they believe the doctrine that they profess to, then the future of our souls is something they needn't be too concerned with.<br />
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Anyway, presently you have the advantage of being able to present this to her on your schedule in your own way. As I previously mentioned, plenty people come here in a bit of a panic as they have failed to be up front with those close to them, and so now they have gotten themselves into a jamb that they donot know how to deal with tactfully.<br />
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Realising this situation needs to be resolved now rather than waiting until a crisis arises shows good sence on your part and is a good first step. Plenty of nontheists go their entire lives not getting issues like this resolved.<br />
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Again, we wish you success and we are usually more than willing to give out free advise to anyone looking for it. You mentioned that your mom t…tag:atheistnexus.org,2011-05-09:2182797:Comment:12507552011-05-09T10:14:06.437Zpaul babcockhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/paulbabcock
You mentioned that your mom think that your soul is safe having Ben baptized. That is what I was referring too when I mentioned the doctrine of once saved always saved that Baptists believe in. This works in our favor imo. Worrying our moms is one less thing we have to fret over. If they believe the doctrine that they profess to, then the future of our souls is something they needn't be too concerned with.<br />
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Anyway presently you have the advantage of being able to present this to her on your…
You mentioned that your mom think that your soul is safe having Ben baptized. That is what I was referring too when I mentioned the doctrine of once saved always saved that Baptists believe in. This works in our favor imo. Worrying our moms is one less thing we have to fret over. If they believe the doctrine that they profess to, then the future of our souls is something they needn't be too concerned with.<br />
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Anyway presently you have the advantage of being able to present this to her on your schedule in your own way. As I previously mentioned plenty people come here in a bit of a panic as they have failed to be u front with those close to them and so now they have gotten themselves into a jamb that they donot know how to deal with tactfully.<br />
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Realising this situation needs to be resolved now rather than waiting until a crisis arises shows good sence on your part and is a good first step. Plenty of nontheist go their entire lives not getting issues like this resolved.<br />
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Again, we wish you success and we are usually more than willing to give out free advise to anyone looking for it. I am thinking that was a typo…tag:atheistnexus.org,2011-05-09:2182797:Comment:12509532011-05-09T09:54:19.481Zpaul babcockhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/paulbabcock
I am thinking that was a typo on your part yes Jen? I could well be wrong as your statement does make perfect grammatical sence but judging by what site you are posting on I have to assume you meant to say "We (atheists) have just as much right to express ourselves as (theists)."<br />
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No bigger that. My spell check has prompted worse.
I am thinking that was a typo on your part yes Jen? I could well be wrong as your statement does make perfect grammatical sence but judging by what site you are posting on I have to assume you meant to say "We (atheists) have just as much right to express ourselves as (theists)."<br />
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No bigger that. My spell check has prompted worse. You will have to find your ow…tag:atheistnexus.org,2011-05-09:2182797:Comment:12509432011-05-09T05:55:23.955ZMichael Blackhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/MichaelBlack
<p>You will have to find your own way of dealing with your situation that matches who you are. I know that in dealing with my mother, she will have to accept who I am, or at least act civil. If not, I will never have anything to do with her again. It is only because of my weak ability to feel attachment that I can do such a thing. Most people wouldn't consider such an option. You may decide that any form of confrontation is not worth the potential damage that you have in your…</p>
<p>You will have to find your own way of dealing with your situation that matches who you are. I know that in dealing with my mother, she will have to accept who I am, or at least act civil. If not, I will never have anything to do with her again. It is only because of my weak ability to feel attachment that I can do such a thing. Most people wouldn't consider such an option. You may decide that any form of confrontation is not worth the potential damage that you have in your relationship. But also remember this, by not sharing who you really are, your mother will not truly know who she raised. She may not want to. I won't know. You should have a good ideal, provided you really know her.</p> Well, if you are financially…tag:atheistnexus.org,2011-05-09:2182797:Comment:12509412011-05-09T05:55:17.468ZBilLee Millerhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/BilLeeMiller
Well, if you are financially self-sufficient and do not really on your immediate family for support, then be open about your difference of theological views. Expect some pushback from them, but politely stand your ground. Eventually, they may come around. If your family and friends cannot at least tolerate this basic difference, how can you expect their support in the face of those that are not your friends and family? You may need to make new friends that are more tolerant and wait things out…
Well, if you are financially self-sufficient and do not really on your immediate family for support, then be open about your difference of theological views. Expect some pushback from them, but politely stand your ground. Eventually, they may come around. If your family and friends cannot at least tolerate this basic difference, how can you expect their support in the face of those that are not your friends and family? You may need to make new friends that are more tolerant and wait things out with your family. Remember, the goal is tolerance. You may never get acceptance, but if you're hiding then you are not being accepted anyway. John,
I think this is a prob…tag:atheistnexus.org,2011-05-09:2182797:Comment:12506052011-05-09T03:26:14.770ZBilLee Millerhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/BilLeeMiller
John,<br />
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I think this is a problem of grammar. I visited Jencarlene's Atheist Nexus and she has expressed much frustration at being bashed theists. I think she meant that as an atheist she has as much right to express herself as a theist. Her grammar was weak and this lead you to parse it incorrectly. Based on her subsequent sentence, it is obvious that she is accustomed to imprecise grammar. When there is ambiguity in a context such as the written word, I would advise giving the benefit of the…
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I think this is a problem of grammar. I visited Jencarlene's Atheist Nexus and she has expressed much frustration at being bashed theists. I think she meant that as an atheist she has as much right to express herself as a theist. Her grammar was weak and this lead you to parse it incorrectly. Based on her subsequent sentence, it is obvious that she is accustomed to imprecise grammar. When there is ambiguity in a context such as the written word, I would advise giving the benefit of the doubt. Since none of us are fideists here, that should be easy enough to do. No problems there. One day w…tag:atheistnexus.org,2011-05-09:2182797:Comment:12507322011-05-09T03:22:19.383ZGrace Fitzpatrickhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/GraceFitzpatrick
No problems there. One day while bored, I googled Lindsay Lohan. You're safe. She's a Catholic. Mel Gibson is also a Catholic. I believe Charlie Sheen is also a Catholic (at least his father is). Catholics have a lot to be proud of in these three. Hopefully, they will remain religious as long as they remain screw ups.
No problems there. One day while bored, I googled Lindsay Lohan. You're safe. She's a Catholic. Mel Gibson is also a Catholic. I believe Charlie Sheen is also a Catholic (at least his father is). Catholics have a lot to be proud of in these three. Hopefully, they will remain religious as long as they remain screw ups.