topical diltiazem

Has anyone had any experience with using a formula of diltiazem compounded so that it is rubbed on the skin instead of taken orally? This has worked well for

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, Nov 2, 2001

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Has anyone had any experience with using a formula of diltiazem
compounded so that it is rubbed on the skin instead of taken orally?
This has worked well for my ferret for at least a year now, but I am
still curious about others' experiences. We tried compounding the
diltiazem for oral dosing, but the taste was still extremely
unacceptable, and the dose ended up being huge, so to avoid twice
daily torture sessions we tried the topical stuff and it seems to be
working well.

Just curious,
Celia

Laura Penny

Please tell us more! Where do you get it? My two cats hate the diltiazem compound so much that they foam at the mouth afterwards. Thanks! Laura, Lucky, & Kassy

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, Nov 2, 2001

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Please tell us more! Where do you get it? My two cats hate the diltiazem
compound so much that they foam at the mouth afterwards.

>Has anyone had any experience with using a formula of diltiazem
>compounded so that it is rubbed on the skin instead of taken orally?
>This has worked well for my ferret for at least a year now, but I am
>still curious about others' experiences. We tried compounding the
>diltiazem for oral dosing, but the taste was still extremely
>unacceptable, and the dose ended up being huge, so to avoid twice
>daily torture sessions we tried the topical stuff and it seems to be
>working well.
>
>Just curious,
>Celia
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Anyes Moscrip

... Another possible solution is to put diltiazem in a gelcap. That s what we did along with other medication. A size 3 gelcap is small enough for a kitty,

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, Nov 2, 2001

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Laura Penny wrote:

> Please tell us more! Where do you get it? My two cats hate the diltiazem
> compound so much that they foam at the mouth afterwards.
>

Another possible solution is to put diltiazem in a gelcap. That's what we did
along with other medication. A size 3 gelcap is small enough for a kitty, but
big enough to hold several medications, and they can't taste them.

Anyes and the girls

cjclinki@coastalnet.com

... diltiazem ... I feel sympathy for you as I remember how much Cokie HATED the diltiazem. Anyways, I m not sure I m supposed to give out the pharmacy info

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, Nov 3, 2001

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--- In feline-heart@y..., "Laura Penny" <lepenny@e...> wrote:

> Please tell us more! Where do you get it? My two cats hate the

diltiazem

> compound so much that they foam at the mouth afterwards.
>

I feel sympathy for you as I remember how much Cokie HATED the
diltiazem. Anyways, I'm not sure I'm supposed to give out the
pharmacy info on the list. Is it okay to do that?? If not, please
email me personally (cjclinki <at> coastalnet.com), and I'll be happy
to give you the info. It's out of state for me, but I can order
refills over the phone and they ship it fedex. They have a website
and seem to specialize in compounding medicine, especially for pets.

It's weird but I can't remember how I found out that this stuff even
existed! Oh wait, I think it was by calling that pharmacy and
begging for some flavor idea that would help. They suggested the
topical stuff. I remember convincing my vet to prescribe it. The
pharmacy assured us it was commonly used, and offered to give him a
list of vets to contact. Was also reassured by another vet and
another pharmacy. We've had no ill effects and she is doing very
well.

Cokie (the ferret) gets 2.5 mg of diltiazem twice daily and the
amount of medicine-cream I rub into her skin is 0.25 ml. The
instructions say to rub into the inside of the ear or a non-hairy
area. She has bald spots (a different story)so I've never had to try
her ears!! Then I wash my hands--although the dose is so small I'm
not too worried about getting my own dose of heart medicine!

Please email me and I'll give you the pharmacy info, or if it's
acceptable to give it to the list, let me know and I will!!

Celia and Cokie

mukki2@yahoo.com

Well, Zellene recommended www.bcpvetpharm.com to me in a message and I know they make topical solutions. I also wanted to say that the tuna-flavored vet chews

Message 5 of 6
, Nov 5, 2001

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Well, Zellene recommended www.bcpvetpharm.com to me in a message and
I know they make topical solutions. I also wanted to say that the
tuna-flavored vet chews from bcp have been a life-saver. My cat's
breathing was getting horrible during the week I was forcing liquid
amoxicillin down his throat -- he still hasn't recovered fully. I had
my vet fill the rest of the prescription at bcp in the chews and my
cat eats them after I smoosh them and mix them in some wet food (he
simply doesn't like chunky or chewy things). I really think he would
have died if I had given him the full 3 week dose orally -- he was
getting THAT bad. Thanks for the rec, Zellene!!

--- In feline-heart@y..., cjclinki@c... wrote:
> --- In feline-heart@y..., "Laura Penny" <lepenny@e...> wrote:
> > Please tell us more! Where do you get it? My two cats hate the
> diltiazem
> > compound so much that they foam at the mouth afterwards.
> >
>
> I feel sympathy for you as I remember how much Cokie HATED the
> diltiazem. Anyways, I'm not sure I'm supposed to give out the
> pharmacy info on the list. Is it okay to do that?? If not, please
> email me personally (cjclinki <at> coastalnet.com), and I'll be
happy
> to give you the info. It's out of state for me, but I can order
> refills over the phone and they ship it fedex. They have a website
> and seem to specialize in compounding medicine, especially for
pets.
>
> It's weird but I can't remember how I found out that this stuff
even
> existed! Oh wait, I think it was by calling that pharmacy and
> begging for some flavor idea that would help. They suggested the
> topical stuff. I remember convincing my vet to prescribe it. The
> pharmacy assured us it was commonly used, and offered to give him a
> list of vets to contact. Was also reassured by another vet and
> another pharmacy. We've had no ill effects and she is doing very
> well.
>
> Cokie (the ferret) gets 2.5 mg of diltiazem twice daily and the
> amount of medicine-cream I rub into her skin is 0.25 ml. The
> instructions say to rub into the inside of the ear or a non-hairy
> area. She has bald spots (a different story)so I've never had to
try
> her ears!! Then I wash my hands--although the dose is so small I'm
> not too worried about getting my own dose of heart medicine!
>
> Please email me and I'll give you the pharmacy info, or if it's
> acceptable to give it to the list, let me know and I will!!
>
> Celia and Cokie

cjclinki@coastalnet.com

... and ... Okay, then, since we can recommend like that--the pharmacy I use (that makes topical diltiazem) is www.martinavenue.com. Although the website

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, Nov 7, 2001

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--- In feline-heart@y..., mukki2@y... wrote:

> Well, Zellene recommended www.bcpvetpharm.com to me in a message

and

> I know they make topical solutions.

Okay, then, since we can recommend like that--the pharmacy I use
(that makes topical diltiazem) is www.martinavenue.com. Although the
website lists TONS of flavors, you gotta call to any any more info.
The number is 630-355-6400. (Illinois).

Celia

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