must have hard work with no hands and your legs tied up to back him out of the car especially over the handbrake.

Oh shit busted!!

I have elbows... if you can't crawl forward using your elbows and ass sucks for you. We're only talking 20cm, it's not like I had to move a meter. He was still stood outside the car iirc... been a long time... in fact maybe I did let go of his hands (which would have been a mistake) and remembered it wrong at the time?? Dunno.

Nope,there is no law against this as long ad it's justified,as I'm sure it always is in yorkshire grippers case.....

Your wrong mate sorry but you are. I know first hand as the manager had to check I was in a blind spot before giving tapes to police and thats just from a guillotine in defence from a 20 stone lunatic on my own as the rest of the team was trying to hold his brother down. Can get pretty serious if your caught using chokes and its known you train in martial arts. Was speaking to the guy as I had it on saying calm down and leave and ill let go etc. Funny enough the place was shut so thankfully had the team available to help or id have been brown bread.

I have elbows... if you can't crawl forward using your elbows and ass sucks for you. We're only talking 20cm, it's not like I had to move a meter. He was still stood outside the car iirc... been a long time... in fact maybe I did let go of his hands (which would have been a mistake) and remembered it wrong at the time?? Dunno.

Your wrong mate sorry but you are. I know first hand as the manager had to check I was in a blind spot before giving tapes to police and thats just from a guillotine in defence from a 20 stone lunatic on my own as the rest of the team was trying to hold his brother down. Can get pretty serious if your caught using chokes and its known you train in martial arts. Was speaking to the guy as I had it on saying calm down and leave and ill let go etc. Funny enough the place was shut so thankfully had the team available to help or id have been brown bread.

unless the rules of self defence on the doors have changed in the last couple of years your allowed to do anything to defend your self even choke someone.

someone tried to smash me with a cast iron patio chair in a beer garden of one pub i worked in, couldnt swing it so tried to grab a wooden plant pot stand to hit me with so i picked up the cast iron patio chair and smacked his straight in the chest with it instead. police came and he told them so i said it was self defence and to check the tapes and they saw him trying to hit me with it then look for something else to use as a weapon it all depends on the circumstances at the time as to whats acceptable to use to protect yourself.

unless the rules of self defence on the doors have changed in the last couple of years your allowed to do anything to defend your self even choke someone.

someone tried to smash me with a cast iron patio chair in a beer garden of one pub i worked in, couldnt swing it so tried to grab a wooden plant pot stand to hit me with so i picked up the cast iron patio chair and smacked his straight in the chest with it instead. police came and he told them so i said it was self defence and to check the tapes and they saw him trying to hit me with it then look for something else to use as a weapon it all depends on the circumstances at the time as to whats acceptable to use to protect yourself.

This ^

As a former man of law I know first hand that there are plenty of reasons to justify using a choke,on the doors or otherwise. If a guy comes at you with a knife,I would hope if anyone got the opportunity to choke the fucker out they would without being worried about losing their license/job.

Your wrong mate sorry but you are. I know first hand as the manager had to check I was in a blind spot before giving tapes to police and thats just from a guillotine in defence from a 20 stone lunatic on my own as the rest of the team was trying to hold his brother down. Can get pretty serious if your caught using chokes and its known you train in martial arts. Was speaking to the guy as I had it on saying calm down and leave and ill let go etc. Funny enough the place was shut so thankfully had the team available to help or id have been brown bread.

Im not wrong mate,if u could justify using the choke, the police would have applauded you for it

As a former man of law I know first hand that there are plenty of reasons to justify using a choke,on the doors or otherwise. If a guy comes at you with a knife,I would hope if anyone got the opportunity to choke the fucker out they would without being worried about losing their license/job.

yeah, defending yourself shouldnt make you have to worry about your job imo.

and if the cameras werent there mind id have hit him with the other 3 chairs and the fucking table.

a choke hold doesnt have to choke someone out. it can just immobilise them until they calm down or help arrives.

Arm drag straight into a choke is the go to move when escorting scrotes out of clubs.

QFT. I've lost count of the amount of times I've done this.

I did it in Spain once and when I threw the guy out he lost consciousness and face planted on the pavement outside. I genuinely thought he was dead for about 3 minutes when he went limp and couldn't be brought round. Proper shit myself.

If you work the doors it should be well drilled into you that as long as you can justify the level of force being used and are quite happy to have to explain yourself in front of a court of law if the shit does hit the fan then use whatever you wish.

I'm always very wary when using any sort of choke on some guy as Sledge said previously, I've been in that same position and absolutely shat my pants. And I'd be very reluctant to use any form of choke on anyone in Aberdeen right now after a recent incident where a guy was choked to death by a jiu-jitsu trained doorman at a nightclub.