NASA. The Orion capsule will carry astronauts farther into the solar system than ever before

President Barack Obama is still in power, which is good news for NASA, whose budget, strategy and missions may have been revised under defeated Republication presidential candidate Mitt Romney.

Space policy expert John Logsdon told Space.com's Mike Wall that plans to send humans to the far side of the moon have already been approved by the Obama administration, but were kept hush-hush in case Romney won Tuesday night's election.

The plan involves establishing a manned outpost about 38,000 miles from the moon in an area known as the Earth-moon libration point 2, or EML-2. This is a gravitationally stable spot, making it possible to "park" a spacecraft there, explains Wall. The station would service as a holding pen for astronauts so they could eventually do other things in space, like land on an asteroid (planned for 2025) or visit Mars (planned for the mid-2030s).

Mumblings of NASA's plans to send astronauts beyond the moon were reported back in September by the Orlando Sentinel's Mark K. Matthews when NASA Chief Charlie Bolden outlined the ambitious proposal to the White House.

In the meantime, a very powerful rocket called the Space Launch System and a space capsule are being developed so that NASA can theoretically begin construction on the outpost by 2021.

Li`bra´tion point` (lî`brā´shŭn point`) n. 1. any one of five points in the plane of a system of two large astronomical bodies orbiting each other, as the Earth-moon system, where the gravitational pull of the two bodies on an object are approximately equal, and in opposite directions. A solid object moving in the same velocity and direction as such a libration point will remain in gravitational equilibrium with the two bodies of the system and not fall toward either body

Man has already visited Mars and been in underground dwellings there (if you watch TV and believe those shows) .Inside a top secret building in El Segundo, CA, you can .’jump’ from the 8th floor and teleport yourself to Mars. I saw it on TV!!!

I have friends at NASA and obama has stopped almost anything of real value to manned flight. This is nothing but BS... that is all obama and his court are... BS. He is defacto king so stop calling it his administration... jarrett and others serve the king in his court.

By the way, if I remember my Celestial Mechanics classes, only L4 and L5 are truly “stable”. The others are “meta-stable”, which means that they are stable in two dimensions only. L4 and L5 are stable in three dimensions.

L.P.

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posted on 11/08/2012 3:31:07 PM PST
by lagrange point1
(Space is no longer the final frontier)

The plan involves establishing a manned outpost about 38,000 miles from the moon in an area known as the Earth-moon libration point 2, or EML-2. This is a gravitationally stable spot, making it possible to "park" a spacecraft there, explains Wall.

Somebody has their terminology screwed up. "Libration" refers to an effect caused by the apparent wobble of the Moon as it orbits the Earth. The Moon always keeps the same side toward the Earth, but due to libration, 59% of the Moon's surface can be seen over a period of time. What they were trying to say was "Lagrange Point".

Lagrange Point French mathematician and astronomer Joseph Louis Lagrange showed that three bodies could lie at the apexes of an equilateral triangle which rotates in its plane. If one of the bodies is sufficiently massive compared with the other two, then the triangular configuration is apparently stable. Such bodies are sometimes referred to as Trojans. The leading apex of the triangle is known as the leading Lagrange point or L4; the trailing apex is the trailing Lagrange point or L5.

Easy mistake to make (both words begin with "L") but they mean entirely different things. If we are ever to move permanently into space and commercialize the asteroid belt, we will need to build a large base at one of the Lagrange points. The best way to do that would be to start with a base on the Moon, use solar power to produce building materials for the Lagrange station from Moon rock and ship it to the assembly point with a mass driver.

If the Earth is going to survive population pressure we need to begin moving permanently into near space and then progress further as technology develops. We are made of "star-stuff", it's time to go home.

Regards, GtG

PS A mass driver on the Moon would make an excellent way to launch kinetic weapons (rods of God?) back at Earth should the need arise.

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posted on 11/08/2012 3:31:07 PM PST
by Gandalf_The_Gray
(I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)

PS A mass driver on the Moon would make an excellent way to launch kinetic weapons (rods of God?) back at Earth should the need arise.

Lyndon Johnson: And as I was sayin', whoever controls the high ground of space controls the world. The Roman Empire controlled the world because it could build roads. Later, the British Empire was dominant because they had ships. In the Air Stage, we were powerful because we had the airplane. And now the Communists have established a foothold in outer space. Pretty soon they'll have damned space platforms so they can drop nuclear bombs on us, like rocks from a highway overpass. Now HOW IN THE HELL did they ever get ahead of us?

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posted on 11/08/2012 3:37:19 PM PST
by Moonman62
(The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)

"Libration Point" and "LaGrange Point" are interchangeable terms. For the mathematically inclined, see here: Libration Point Calculation

I was an early member of the L-5 Society. The plan was to disband the organization with an all-member meeting aboard an L-5 domicile. That plan hasn't quite worked out (yet) and the Society has since merged with the former National Space Institute to form the present National Space Society L-5 Society

When I see you name, I'm reminded of the Chicken Ranch in La Grange, Texas. That was quite a place, ahem.

"The Chicken Ranch was an illegal but tolerated brothel in the U.S. state of Texas that operated from 1905 until 1973. It was located in Fayette County about 2.5 miles east of downtown La Grange. The business was established by Miss Jessie Williams, and was the basis for the 1978 Broadway musical and later movie The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas.

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