The State of Science: Was Kansas Intelligently Designed?

We’ll probably never know for sure, but I’m pretty certain that the evolution v. intelligent design debate will rage on.

Blogcritics is keeping you up to date on the latest happenings with the attempts to alter Kansas’ science education curriculum in the name of … well … they say it’s “objectivity.”

Diluting Evolution
The Bible, which has not been updated in over 2000 years, is most decidedly not a science book. Charles Darwin’s controversial 1859 bestseller, On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the…
Posted to Culture by Margaret Romao Toigo on May 12, 2005 09:59 AM

Why Bother with Kansas
The real issue for these people is their belief that evolutionary theory undercuts religious faith. Does it? For some it probably does though knowledge of evolution isn’t required for either atheism or agnosticism. In fact, evolution alone isn’t even a good argument for disbelief since the question of God is entirely a metaphysical question.

Posted by a-[e] on May 10, 2005 12:39 PM

‘Intelligent Design’ in Kansas: The Right’s Attack on Families
There is a deep irony in the attempt to excise evolution from the science curriculum, just as there is in the move to allow prayer in schools or to have the Ten Commandments posted in classrooms. The very groups that advocate so-called “proper” parenting seem to want to cede parental responsibility to the state, turning Uncle Sam into a surrogate father.
Posted to Culture by Pete Blackwell on May 09, 2005 08:06 PM

Kansas school board endlessly debates evolution
A Kansas high school student weighs in. “When you’re having a scientific debate, a ‘balanced picture’ is not based on a referendum of the opinions of the general populace. It’s not based on the opinions of church leaders. Science is not decided by referendum, it’s decided by scientists, and to try and make it into a public referendum issue is idiotic and medieval.”
Posted to Politics by Leoniceno on May 06, 2005 07:39 PM

We know a great thing when we see it. Life is the greatest TECHNOLOGY we have ever seen! And now that we are starting to understand it. It would be best if you joint the rest of the planet earth in knowing a good thing when it is seen.

We did not create so-called LIVING SYSTEMS. We are Not alone. Someone has been here before us. This Life TECHNOLOGY is of an educated MIND. Blind Evolution with lucky selections was never an inventor in the field of molecular machinery or even Bio-programming codes (DNA). We all need an update of what is going on today. The scientific understanding of living systems is changing fast. Try to keep up to date… will you!
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says Prof. Keinan. “For example, all biological systems, and even entire living organisms, are such computers.
Every one of us is a bio-molecular computer, that is, a machine in which all four components are molecules “talking” to one another in a logical manner.

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Man is not like a machine.
For man is a machine, someone else’s technology.

If man is but a molecular machine with DNA functioning / engineering software. Then how can there be any debate?! It is the pre-programming of the DNA that is the cause of the so-called EVOLTION / or CHANGES. Intelligent changes by Intelligent software instructions.

if we were to consider the theory that the biological functions in man were the equivalent of a computer, then we should also put forth the theory that ideology is software (or at least a plug-in) and ideology that is harmful to people would be viral in nature and need to be destroyed.

And secondly, more than a few people on this planet are in desperate need of a hard restart and finally I know somebody stuck in a cut and paste loop.

So after 10 iterations, the DNA is being replicated at a rate of about 1Mbit/sec; after 30 iterations it increases to 1000 Gbits/sec. This is beyond the sustained data rates of the fastest hard drives.

Transfer Rates
Buffer To Host (Serial ATA) 1,200 Mbits/s (Max)
Buffer To Disk 72 MB/s (Sustained)
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Living systems are so good at logic computations. Your next computer many be a bacterium glued to a motherboard, run on man made software. Billy boy, are you listening. Nature is calling you. Can you hear them crying out too you. Yea man. MSN bio-programming.

God: all-powerful all-knowing creator
Creator: One who creates, who brings into existence

Because Man is not the one that is all supreme… he is not called a God. Though some try. = 😉
Is man Learning, is that not greater power.
Is not man becoming a knowing CREATOR.
Bio-engineering is all about intelligent Designing. So is DNA programming. They now have software to help make it easy.

Man always was, and more so now, a great Intelligent Creator / copyist.

Scientists make bacteria behave like computers
Research could lead to smart biological devices

Bacteria have been programmed to behave like computers, assembling themselves into complex shapes based on instructions stuffed into their genes.here

DNA Computing & Chips
Nature has, through a process of continuous optimization, developed systems that are highly energy efficient. Man being a part of nature, has not far to see the power of nature?s creation. His own body is a masterpiece.

Our search for knowledge has driven the information revolution. ?Powerful? database and feedback systems have only recently been developed. Yet, within us exist hormones and enzymes which provide to a master processor (the brain) with information about the internal and external environment. The information is processed in the brain and signals sent to take appropriate actions. These form simple feedback systems. In nature, such controls exist at every level. Even the smallest of cells has a nucleus which controls the cell. Where does this power actually come from? It lies in the DNA. The ability to harness this computational power shall determine the fate of next generation of computing.

Molecular biologists are beginning to unravel the information-processing tools-such as enzymes, copying tools, proofreading mechanisms and so on-that evolution has spent millions of years refining.

Now we’re taking those tools in large numbers of DNA molecules and using them as biological computer processors.

Information specifying a computational problem too complex for even a supercomputer is encoded in DNA.

Then various molecular-biological tools are used to process this information. In a hot-tub sized vat of DNA, at normal laboratory concentration, one might easily imagine having 1021 DNA molecules, each potentially encoding 400 bits of information. That’s 100,000 billion times as much information as you can store in your 1 gigabyte hard disk.

Each of these molecules acts, in a sense, as a separate processor in a giant multiprocessor. So, in effect, we have a thousand billion billion processors.

When compared to conventional computers, certain operations in DNA computing (for example, hybridization?the bonding of two DNA strands to form the double helix) are over a billion times more energy efficient.

Also, DNA stores information at a density of about one bit per nm3?about a trillion times as efficiently as videotape.

DNA computing is also massively parallel and can reach approximately 1020 operations per second compared to today?s teraflop supercomputers.

DNA computation relies on devising algorithms that solve problems using the encoded information in the sequence of nucleotides that make up DNA?s double helix?the bases Adenine, Guanine, Thymine, and Cytosine (A, G, T, and C, respectively)?and then breaking and making new bonds between them to reach the answer.

ResearcherTony

An amoeba may consist of about 100 quadrillion atoms. And can create a copy in about 90 seconds (if I remember right)

Human cells can create a copy in almost 2 hours.
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So fast computations are need, for it would die of old age before it could create a copy.

So far I have 3 estates of the speed that can be expected from a cell. All are faster then any man made computer.

In previous work, including a paper published March 8 in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences along with Sara Hooshangi and Stephan Thiberge, Weiss showed the feasibility of inserting engineered pieces of DNA into cells to make them behave in the same manner as digital circuits. The cells, for example, could be made to perform basic mathematical logic and produce crisp, reliable readouts that are more commonly associated with silicon chips than biological organisms. The new paper applies similar techniques to a large population of cells.

“Here we’re showing an integrated package where the cells have an ability to send messages and other cells have the ability to act on these messages,” said Weiss.

“Life” is the Greatest Technology Man has ever seen!
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It really comes down to:

the “Blind Evolution with lucky selections”

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the “DNA bio-engineering software programming for limited changes”.

Nothing as good as to be called “alive” is a produce of luck. Living systems are the best molecular TECHNOLOGY we have ever seen.

Once you except the FACT that you are but a molecular machine. Then the debate makes no sense. The logic is simple. Machines are made, designed, created.

All life is MADE from scratch. There does not exist even one life form that was not constructed with the aid from DNA intelligent instructions. It starts with the DNA programming coded instructions. And a cell with the machine SHOP the put the parts together. Change the instructions, and you change the design specs.

You ARE A CREATION.

A pre-programmed cell is your Creator!!!

Eric Olsen

Researcher Tony, please do NOT, for the ret of your life, put unlinked URLs on this site. Thanks

On one hand, we have people who believe that the future of the Universe belongs to robots that will go beyond self-replication to intelligent self-evolution. Should we call that “Artificially Intelligent Design”? Will it lead to speciation and an ecology of machines. Will species compete for resources and will humans still be considered a worthy species in that future universe? Star Wars here we come!

On the other hand, we have people who believe that the naturally explicable process of evolution requires supernatural control. And they believe in that so strongly that they call their unchallengeable hypothesis scientific nonetheless. They consider it implausible that Earth’s ecology could be the result of natural events that are not entirely predictable.

The chances of our particular world are improbably remote, they say, so there must be a capital-C Creator. The chances of any partiicular world are improbably remote, I counter, and the world we live in is no less unlikely than any other.

Its an odd kind of intelligence indeed that sends asteroids crashing into planets just to tweak the direction of evolution — or leaves red-herring evidence of such an event to misguide the logical thinkers of that planet into believing that such a thing happened.

I live between the worlds of those whose belief in limitless technology will lead us where?, and those whose faith in an omniscient, omnipotent Creator leaves no room for nonbelievers.

For any individuals not hypnotized by the many, many re-edited and revised editions of the so-called “infallible word of god”,
(now which words of god ARE the real ones–if the bible has been revised and re-edited some 1,500 times–and the wording has been totally DIFFERENT—they can’t be ALL right when they are all different and OPPOSING now CAN THEY !!!!)—
The original biblical manuscrips were in Greek and Aramaic—since then the actual content has been so bastardized and totally changed—none of the original writers would recognize anything in our current “editions” of the bible.

For honest thinking humans that do NOT rely on believing blindly what they are told by “god’s representatives on earth”–ie.: priests, ministers, etc., (and THIS always makes me skeptical as even the “bible” has in it that “god’s laws are written in our heart”–therefore making an “intermediary” totally unneccessary….

go find any of Zechariah Sitchican’s books on how our planet REALLY was populated and developed and then you can see the absurdity and fairy tale of this biblical “creation” MYTH.
The 1st book in the series of about 12 books is called The 12th Planet; these books are taken from Dr. Sitchican’s translations of the thousands of Sumerian tablets that are our oldest written record in the earth.
You will be amazed and enlightened by the truths you will find here in Dr. Sitchikan’s works he has spent the last 35 years translatiing.
You will get that “Oh YES—that MUST be what really happened” feeling as you read his works.
These fairy tale myths that are in these many distorted versions of the bible will make complete sense in light of what you will discover in these ancient Sumerian tablets!!!!

Bennett

“Its an odd kind of intelligence indeed that sends asteroids crashing into planets just to tweak the direction of evolution — or leaves red-herring evidence of such an event to misguide the logical thinkers of that planet into believing that such a thing happened.”

Great paragraph Fred!

And from Tristan… Nice!

“as even the “bible” has in it that “god’s laws are written in our heart”–therefore making an “intermediary” totally unneccessary….”

“For any individuals not hypnotized by the many, many re-edited and revised editions of the so-called “infallible word of god”,
(now which words of god ARE the real ones–if the bible has been revised and re-edited some 1,500 times–and the wording has been totally DIFFERENT—they can’t be ALL right when they are all different and OPPOSING now CAN THEY !!!!)”
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30+ bibles + all the same!!!
If you drag and highlight all the bibles in the box. Then type 1 scriptural verse. You get 30 *** translations *** to compare. Bammm. There goes your fictitious theories about the bible. Hic! hic! hic!

Tristan

but all 30 different translated phrases are the “Infallible Word of GOD”, right …!!!!!

The definition of science itself is now under attack in Kansas, and this may be part of a new national tactic.

As the Associated Press reports, “The proposed definition has outraged many scientists, who are frustrated that students could be discussing supernatural explanations for natural phenomena in their science classes.”

The Kansas school board’s hearings on evolution weren’t limited to how the theory should be taught in public schools. The board is considering redefining science itself. Advocates of “intelligent design” are pushing the board to reject a definition limiting science to natural explanations for what’s observed in the world.

Instead, they want to define it as “a systematic method of continuing investigation,” without specifying what kind of answer is being sought. The definition would appear in the introduction to the state’s science standards.

State and national science groups boycotted last week’s public hearings, claiming they were rigged against evolution.

Stephen Meyer, a senior fellow at the Seattle-based Discovery Institute, which supports intelligent design, said changing the schools’ definition of science would avoid freezing out questions about how life arose and developed on Earth.