There are times when Broncos receivers in the Tim Tebow-directed offense must feel lonelier than a teetotaler at an Irish wedding. Eric Decker, the Broncos' No. 1 receiver, had a two-game span last month when he had one catch against Kansas City and nothing but goose eggs before a prime-time national audience against the New York Jets. Eddie Royal, the Broncos' No. 2 receiver, h...

I hope they finally start using Demaryius Thomas more because he will be as good or better receiver than Dez Bryant in this league, plus he will allow Decker to dominate even more. I love our receiving core and I expect this Sunday will be a breakout passing performance from Tebow. I think the coaching staff has been very smart in prepping for each team and I noticed each game has had a different attack no matter how many person analysts simply want to say it's the option. Since everyone now knows how dangerous Tebow is as a runner everytime he hands the ball to our RBs he SHOULD show option simply to give the line that little edge, it's working great so why not let Tebow work the magic because his ballhandling skills are awesome in my opinion, he's crafty with his ball fakes, pump fakes,etc. He has shown he is very smart with decision-making, so even when the option is not on he sells it, and the defense loses at least a half second on each run play. I love it. This game this weekend I really believe they will let Tebow take more shots to give future opponents more to gameplan for as well as continuing to make Tebow comfortable throwing the ball for the playoffs. I love this team, and since preseason I have been writing that our receivers will be great, and they have been by committing to run blocking when other diva receivers would pout and quit. It is time to treat D.Thomas as the first pick that he was in his class for us, and I think the world will soon realize that D.Thomas and E. Decker can hang with any receiving duo out there. They may not catch as many passes, but I truly believe they will be more productive with their opportunities (Big Yardage, TDs). I hope more than anything that Thomas gets going so that Decker does not get doubled as often and the Royal can give Tebow the slot to work with. Once Royal (or Willis) draw DBs to the middle, Tebow will have more open space to work with when he scrambles out wide. I LOVE THIS TEAM SINCE 1985! Go Broncos!!!!!

Once the Broncos, and Tebow, shift to somewhat more of a passing team, then they are now, the wide recievers will get their grabs. Aside from his great hands, what really impresses me about Decker is his downfield blocking. How many times on a long McGahee or Tebow run do we look to the top of the TV screen, and see Decker making a big effort to block. In fact, I'm seeing this effort allot more now then I ever did before in all the Broncos. This success running the ball has been a real team effort.

IndyDBronco wrote:Why not show how many passes these receivers drop? That is the main reason now that Tebow has so few completions.

Yes, the receivers need to focus on catching the ball. It's becoming painful to watch when the ball is thrown to Royal or DT. Decker is about 50-50. I don't know what they are doing in practice, but its not working too well. Receivers will be high on the Denver draft list...

Watched the interview with McCoy yesterday on Broncos.com and was shocked when the question came up about the receivers. I also got a "kick" out of John Fox's facial expression when he was asked the same type question. Fells handled the question very well on NFL.com, it's all about "winning." Maybe we should ask the safeties is they miss all the tackles they used to make when the front seven was getting run over? Or ask the punter and kicker is they feel overworked during the 4 game winning streak. I guess Mike Klis is upset his fantasy football receivers aren't doing as well. Sure let's compare catches during the last six games to catches during the 1-4 stretch, makes a lot of sense if losing is the goal. Maybe we should ask TO, Brandon Marshall, Mike Irvin (already heard his reaction), or call in Carmelo Anthony to provide his expertise on the lack of "attempts" given to receivers. Bronco wins are being classified as team wins by writers like Klis which is great, the team is fun to watch. However now Klis is concerned about individual statistics? Before the Superbowl against Atlanta there was similar talk about Elway needing to pass to receivers since the Green Bay win didn't involve a lot of receptions by Bronco receivers. As a fan I was hoping for a Superbowl win against Green Bay and a Superbowl win against Atlanta, because no one talked about receiver receptions in the losses to the Giants, Redskins, and 49ers!

Fells, Jerimiah Johnson, and Willis look like more reliable weapons in the receiving game than Thomas and Royal, but during a great streak I'm reluctant to be critical like a Denver Bronco beat reporter.

I want to post agreement with Deepwater about Decker's downfield blocking. Watching the team now, I catch glimpses of the Terrell Davis years with Davis cutting off blocks by Eddie Mac and Smith, I just wish Moreno could get his act together and play more because Tebow needs his pass catching skills and open field running and point scoring abilities.

As far as Thomas goes he needs a truly "breakout" performance or two to remove some doubts that he was a top draft pick in my opinion. His blocking skills lag behind Decker's and he just doesn't seem to want to get his helmet into the play in separation for pass catching. I realize he is young, inexperienced, and had some injuries, but so is Tebow and so is Miller and many others on the team. I think Thomas needs to find film of Rod Smith running slants across the middle as a big target for Tebow and start using stiff arms and hurdling guys for yardage.

I been preaching patience since the beginning for Tebow and the other young players but they have played a half dozen games together now and its time to see some chemistry and experience coming together for these guys and I think when that happens the last of the resident "critics" here will start to appreciate how Fox and his assistants have been handling a very crazy year by NFL standards.

I haven't enjoyed a year like this since Plummer first got here. This team has me very excited about getting better each game.

Klis is unbelievable. So the receivers are patient because there are getting less passes come their way, yet the yards per completion with Tebow is better than when the "great" passer, Kyle Orton, was the quarterback. What is this guy's point? Tebow throws less and he is considered a below average passer by a bunch of so-called experts but he gets a higher average per completion than Tom Brady, yes believe it or not Tebow averages 13.11 y/c while Brady averages 13.09. I had mistakingly said that his average was better than Rodgers' but I was incorrect, he actually averages 13.37 y/c.

Okay, here is more Brady 13.09 y/c, Brees 11.42 y/c, Roethlisberger 12.53 y/c, Newton 12.94 y/c, Cutler 12.74 y/c... I could go forever but you get the point, this "lousy" passer does better when he completes passes than probably any other starting quarterback.

So I ask you, what is going to happen when this quarterback who doesn't turn the ball over, who wins games, who has his team energized and playing at a higher level than anyone of us expected, learns how to throw the ball just a tiny bit better?

I cannot understand why Klis writes articles like this one when the team is winning against all odds. Since Tebow took over as starting quarterback the Denver Broncos, including this week's game vs. Minn., have been underdogs and yet they are 5-1.

I wonder when these articles will be more about the team than about Tebow. All DP writers, please give Tebow a break and write about the other players who are contributing to the current success of the Denver Broncos and once in a while write about Tebow when it is warranted not just to fill up space.

PS. Spider, XBronco and the like a thumb down from any of you is like a badge of honor to me. GO BRONCOS!!!

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The Broncos are winning, and there is evidence Tebow is the primary reason.

This type of comments, the overall focus on Sparky, the idolization of the Tebowites and all the other press making out Timmy as the polarizing sports figure of the century are going to be the downfall of this team.

Sure this short winning streak is awesome. It's nice to be winning again. But even the most team oriented teammates on this team are going to get tired of listening to all the Tebow is the only reason or even the main reason they are winning is going to grow thin. And this along with the fact that this guy is just not all that good is why I don't buy into this Tebowmania bandwagon.

We've already heard hints of this i.e. in a recent interview that Rhome did with McGahee when Rhome asked him (and I'm paraphrasing) what he thought of Tebow winning games for the Broncos Willis was quick to point out that it was a team win. When asked if Tebow motivated him McGahee promptly responded that he didn't need "ANY" QB to motivate him.

You can give me all the thumbs down that you want because I'm here to point out my views and unlike your hero not in it for the praise but the sooner we cut this cancer from this team the sooner we can really start moving forward to rebuild this team.

This is the Denver Broncos, always has been and always will be. There is no such thing as the Tebow Broncos

This close // to another Lombardi and there are posters who act like we went 3-13 instead if 13-3?

Let me see. The receivers are getting less action but are having more fun? Brandon didn't what to have that kind of fun so he booked it? And those who do catch the ball are delighted because they get more yards per catch? Fox has always wanted to play an efficient game. Sounds like he's got one going now. But for how long? Fox is right in that the only way this stays together is for each to become selfless. My guess is selfishness will show her ugly head when we lose. Which i hope doesn't happen this weekend...

Spider wrote:We've already heard hints of this i.e. in a recent interview that Rhome did with McGahee when Rhome asked him (and I'm paraphrasing) what he thought of Tebow winning games for the Broncos Willis was quick to point out that it was a team win. When asked if Tebow motivated him McGahee promptly responded that he didn't need "ANY" QB to motivate him.

I heard that interview too, and would agree. I don't get the sense that the team as a whole believe Tebow is doing it all, and neither do I. We are getting excellent play pretty much all around, and I think it is silly to say it is all because of one guy. He's only a part of it.

However, I don't think there is any danger of the team getting sick of hearing it and turning on Tebow either. As I have been saying, none of the hooplah surrounding Tebow is really his fault, so I have a hard time thinking he is a cancer to the team. A cancer to the team would be some divisive prima-donna whining and moaning like TO. But Tebow is doing everything he is asked to do by his teammates. All he needs is passing skill. (A BIG ONE as it turns out for QBs.) That is ALL that keeps me off his bandwagon. I'm seeing TEAM wins, not a 5-1 record for Tebow. He's only a PART of that.

Flyboy Leader wrote:Fox is right in that the only way this stays together is for each to become selfless. My guess is selfishness will show her ugly head when we lose. Which i hope doesn't happen this weekend...

Not this weekend, but you can count on it when it comes time to negotiate new contracts. The only real leverage a player has is his stats. If they can't find a way to get these guys their touches, look for a revolving door with young receivers (as well as more draft picks spent on that position) looking to break or receivers looking for that last chance to salvage careers. A player only gets so many years to cash in, and WR just happens to be one of the biggest "diva" positions out there.

Spider wrote:We've already heard hints of this i.e. in a recent interview that Rhome did with McGahee when Rhome asked him (and I'm paraphrasing) what he thought of Tebow winning games for the Broncos Willis was quick to point out that it was a team win. When asked if Tebow motivated him McGahee promptly responded that he didn't need "ANY" QB to motivate him.

I heard that interview too, and would agree. I don't get the sense that the team as a whole believe Tebow is doing it all, and neither do I. We are getting excellent play pretty much all around, and I think it is silly to say it is all because of one guy. He's only a part of it.

However, I don't think there is any danger of the team getting sick of hearing it and turning on Tebow either. As I have been saying, none of the hooplah surrounding Tebow is really his fault, so I have a hard time thinking he is a cancer to the team. A cancer to the team would be some divisive prima-donna whining and moaning like TO. But Tebow is doing everything he is asked to do by his teammates. All he needs is passing skill. (A BIG ONE as it turns out for QBs.) That is ALL that keeps me off his bandwagon. I'm seeing TEAM wins, not a 5-1 record for Tebow. He's only a PART of that.

I completely agree. Have not heard the interview, but it doesnt seem unreasonable for that type of reaction. WM has been a LARGE part of our success and I am sure he knows it. IMO he deserves to have folks make a big deal about him, same with VM and the rest of the defense. So I can't blame him if he is a little annoyed by that line of question.

Now, I am on the bandwagon, but will be the first to admit that T2 is part of, not the sole reason for the team success. His reactions suggests to me that feels or at least projects the same around the team. From the interviews I have seen, he is very quick to had out praise to his teammates and deflects comments crediting himself. Fosters the team first concept. I also think that a lot of, if not all, the players have really subscribed to this notion as well. Lots of interviews including terms like "we" and "selflessness." Seems they believe in each other which is going to be big factor in how the team progresses towards the playoffs. Great to see.

As this offense evolves, I can see more passes, but not to the extent that we see with the conventional NFL, dink and dunk west coast, offense. If I were a defensive coordinater, I would hate to see the Broncos coming to town next year. It should be interesting and fun to watch and, if successful, much copied

IndyDBronco wrote:Why not show how many passes these receivers drop? That is the main reason now that Tebow has so few completions.

Yes, the receivers need to focus on catching the ball. It's becoming painful to watch when the ball is thrown to Royal or DT. Decker is about 50-50. I don't know what they are doing in practice, but its not working too well. Receivers will be high on the Denver draft list...

They will, when Tebow figures out how to throw something besides a bullet or a feather floater. The onus of the PROBLEMS on this team are shared just like the glory. Tebow is progressing, the WR's..also YOUNG, are learning to work in this system and they are learning Tebow's ways just as he is starting to get theirs.

You know, some of the people on this board are real good at slamming others for not having enough patience to await the reality of the myth. So much so that you ignore the fact that this is new to EVERYONE on the team. You want us to trust the Tebow, you trust the rest of the team and give THEM a chance.

Yeah, receivers have to run great routes, catch the ball, block and deceive defenders. That's it. But that's a lot. And with a run-emphasis, it changes the complexion of what and how they're doing all of it. So again, adjustments are the key. The better the adjustments, the better the chance for success. The ball may not come their way often, but when it does, they MUST be ready, and perform as such. It only takes two well placed long passes to put 14 points on the board. Receivers: be super-prepared, get going, get better - win - again. Playing a super team-game is the key to winning, not look-at-me show-boat narcissism.

Spider wrote:We've already heard hints of this i.e. in a recent interview that Rhome did with McGahee when Rhome asked him (and I'm paraphrasing) what he thought of Tebow winning games for the Broncos Willis was quick to point out that it was a team win. When asked if Tebow motivated him McGahee promptly responded that he didn't need "ANY" QB to motivate him.

I heard that interview too, and would agree. I don't get the sense that the team as a whole believe Tebow is doing it all, and neither do I. We are getting excellent play pretty much all around, and I think it is silly to say it is all because of one guy. He's only a part of it.

However, I don't think there is any danger of the team getting sick of hearing it and turning on Tebow either. As I have been saying, none of the hooplah surrounding Tebow is really his fault, so I have a hard time thinking he is a cancer to the team. A cancer to the team would be some divisive prima-donna whining and moaning like TO. But Tebow is doing everything he is asked to do by his teammates. All he needs is passing skill. (A BIG ONE as it turns out for QBs.) That is ALL that keeps me off his bandwagon. I'm seeing TEAM wins, not a 5-1 record for Tebow. He's only a PART of that.

I agree with both of you on this issue. I am getting tired of hearing that our success is mainly due to Tebow, but it will never stop due to the fact that we've pretty much had the same team around both QBs and one was able to produce and the other was not.

Either way, it's not Tebow's fault at all. He is also the first one to point out that credit for the success goes to the team and TEAM only. He has given credit to everyone EXCEPT himself when asked about that in pressers. He does EVERYTHING that you want (except pinpoint accuracy) and NOTHING you don't want as a young QB.

"Only when the tide goes out do you discover who's been swimming naked."