I don't know what the heck you're talking about, but origins is my favorite map in black ops 2. It finally delivers that challenging quality in a zombie map, but still has many great training and camping areas. I mean, the only downside about this map is the mud, but that is the only thing I agree with you. Sounds like someone is just bad at the map...

I totally disagree with you, although I have taken a ton of downs getting used to this map and only made it to 17 so far. I love the size and the new wunderfuzz is awesome and they should implement it in to every other map. It's challenging and massive with so much to explore. I got incredibly bored with MOTD and Buried because they were too easy. Round 30+ on day one makes it boring and lose interest quick. This map reminds me of the BO1 maps where it took patience and practice to learn and get the skill and experience to survive

You know, I don't mean to brag, but I think I'm a pretty good player at zombies, but today, I've probably gotten down 3-6 times a game every time I started up a match of Origins before round 10. Now, that lowered as I figured out the map, but it's a NEW map for crying out loud! We all get downed more than usual when we first play it! And this map is meant to be challenging!

Me and my friends kept dying from the Panzer zombies to the blue zombies from the generators, but we kept on playing and restarting matches because it was fun and challenging! We wanted to top our score from the last game, and I think it's important that Treyarch kept this in Origins, because honestly, Mob of the Dead was fun, but after learning the secrets and methods to power perks and getting the plane parts, the map became easy, and it almost felt like doing chores sometimes.

Anywho, just try to enjoy the map! Learn it! Practice on it! Trust me, once you've started getting to know good spots to take out zombies, you will have a blast!

I don't hate Origins, but I'm not really having that much fun as I thought I would have. I love the big robots, the staffs, Samantha and the old characters, but I think the level design is pretty boring to be quite honest. Trech after trench, after trench with some random bunkers and a church is not doing it for me. Maybe my expectations where to high, or this map has to grow on me.

at first I hated it. Now that I understand it, it is not that bad. I understand the robots and mech suit guy. I know how to survive. The mud can get annoying but it just takes some skill and getting used to to do good.