tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post1402959840901981645..comments2014-04-18T09:47:55.100-04:00Comments on GROGNARDIA: Forgotten Gaming ArtJames Maliszewskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-91239701970646352022011-05-19T18:09:02.927-04:002011-05-19T18:09:02.927-04:00My table-top RPG claim to fame: as a schoolkid, I ...My table-top RPG claim to fame: as a schoolkid, I named the magazine in a write-in contest, back in the day. Won, I think, a membership and a free module: I don&#39;t recall which.William Huberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00033809401406505131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-82267097720231759772011-05-18T17:21:35.919-04:002011-05-18T17:21:35.919-04:00Then it became more and more devoted just to servi...<i>Then it became more and more devoted just to servicing the industry as an adjunct to what the industry wanted - and that is when they lost me as a reader.</i><br /><br>Very well said. That nicely sums up my own feelings.James Maliszewskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-73446262463521022942011-05-17T10:36:17.612-04:002011-05-17T10:36:17.612-04:00Yes, the hand-me-downs were disappointing but what...Yes, the hand-me-downs were disappointing but what gave them life was the articles themselves. Sometimes, they were even superior to the articles in Dragon as they were sort of the next layer of the onion. Dragon, like all gaming magazines, was there to sell more copies of the game and provide an indirect subsidy through advertising revenue.<br /><br />Poly was the insiders guide or the spoilers that all gamers love to read about. I am always fascinated by the inner history of a game (as in Designers Notes) and Poly always had those gems/diamonds strewn in the rough.<br /><br />Then it became more and more devoted just to servicing the industry as an adjunct to what the industry wanted - and that is when they lost me as a readerRefereehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13766356281154069754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-71025369386625317782011-05-16T21:52:30.150-04:002011-05-16T21:52:30.150-04:00&quot;It&#39;s interesting that what Mentzer calls...&quot;It&#39;s interesting that what Mentzer calls &quot;reusable art&quot; is stuff I&#39;ve never seen before. Now, maybe it did appear somewhere else beforehand, but, if so, it must be somewhere pretty obscure.&quot; <br /><br />I agree - I haven&#39;t seen it most of it elsewhere either. Perhaps some was stuff he found in the files that hadn&#39;t actually been used in a published product.Zenopus Archiveshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14069501995927451558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-42317505025236959352011-05-16T18:22:31.501-04:002011-05-16T18:22:31.501-04:00One of my favorite parts is the high tension/cell/...One of my favorite parts is the high tension/cell/whatever tower in the background. Aside from the laser gun on the savage humanoid&#39;s belt, it&#39;s one of the few clues that you&#39;re looking at a post-apocalyptic scene.dhowarth333http://www.blogger.com/profile/18163514061779555557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-68441731543194949232011-05-16T17:31:06.956-04:002011-05-16T17:31:06.956-04:00Always loved Otus. That&#39;s a wonderful piece of...Always loved Otus. That&#39;s a wonderful piece of work, and one I&#39;ve never seen before either. I like the use of high-contrast black and white areas, and the details of the cycad/palm trees, the bootlaces, and the wiry fur of the poor stabbed beastie. Thanks!ClawCarverhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07236809815213343281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-38391079123888369872011-05-16T13:10:06.324-04:002011-05-16T13:10:06.324-04:00Hmmm... I&#39;m going to have to dig out my old Po...Hmmm... I&#39;m going to have to dig out my old Polys to have a look at the art.Anthonyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01254215329246851683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-37582181474506090422011-05-16T12:53:32.135-04:002011-05-16T12:53:32.135-04:00Kesher: It&#39;s more action packed than Otus&#39;...Kesher: It&#39;s more action packed than Otus&#39;s drawing of the fight at the urinals from Alma Mater! <a href="http://cyclopeatron.blogspot.com/2010/05/naughty-erol-otus-banned-illustrations.html" rel="nofollow"> HERE</a>!<br />Another great bit of art I had never seen before... thanks for sharing it!limpeyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08192911890556534923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-67574591627940961082011-05-16T09:50:16.851-04:002011-05-16T09:50:16.851-04:00That may be the most action shown in any Otus piec...That may be the most action shown in any Otus piece, ever! Awesome!kesherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17494262159858200847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-47136947806136795922011-05-16T08:30:19.220-04:002011-05-16T08:30:19.220-04:00Both my favorite Otus piece, and my favorite Gamma...Both my favorite Otus piece, and my favorite Gamma World art. Love it.dhowarth333http://www.blogger.com/profile/18163514061779555557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-54429961168160295082011-05-16T08:12:46.849-04:002011-05-16T08:12:46.849-04:00For the first issues I did everything, including l...<i>For the first issues I did everything, including layout. We needed art to break up the text a little, and I got access to the reusable art from the olden days (all the way back to the original 3LBB!).</i><br /><br>It&#39;s interesting that what Mentzer calls &quot;reusable art&quot; is stuff I&#39;ve never seen before. Now, maybe it did appear somewhere else beforehand, but, if so, it must be somewhere pretty obscure. From my perspective, it looks to me as if <i>Polyhedron</i> had more -- and original -- art in its early issues compared to its later ones.James Maliszewskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-50374344036983835442011-05-16T07:35:18.047-04:002011-05-16T07:35:18.047-04:00Wow, that&#39;s a great piece by Otus that I had n...Wow, that&#39;s a great piece by Otus that I had never seen before. Thanks for sharing. :)Risus Monkeyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17635116929490398699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7487871339000666216.post-64115884787126983962011-05-16T07:24:18.008-04:002011-05-16T07:24:18.008-04:00The art in the early issues of Polyhedron is due t...The art in the early issues of Polyhedron is due to Frank Mentzer, who wrote on DF: &quot;For the first issues I did everything, including layout. We needed art to break up the text a little, and I got access to the reusable art from the olden days (all the way back to the original 3LBB!). Once the RPGA got rolling and proved its worth, we got permission to requisition some original new art now and then, and most of the technical tasks were turned over to the separate Layout group in the Production department&quot;<br /><br />http://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=35588&amp;p=958722<br /><br />So I think the change you noticed is due to the change from being produced by Mentzer to the &quot;Production Dept&quot;. There&#39;s even a picture by Frank&#39;s father, JF Mentzer, in issue #3 that you show above.Zenopus Archiveshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14069501995927451558noreply@blogger.com