Czech Cashed: Arma II Getting Czech Army DLC

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“The civil war in Bystrica is at its end. But it’s not the end of fear for the people. War criminals like Colonel Miyovic still terrorize the country with their militia looting and murdering civilians. Forces of the Czech Republic Army are sent to restore order.” Go Czech army! Also this: “15 new missions in the singleplayer campaign, scenarios and procedural template gameplay modes” and “two new summer-season terrains: Bystrica and Bukovina.” One of those is the lovely green environment pictured above. £8 pre-order pricetag on this, it’s turning up in Q3 of this year. One for a, uh, limited audience, perhaps.

The problem I would see is that it would require you to have two characters on one CD Key and of course you would need different servers. I think splitting up the community at that point would not be helpful.

Yes, I’m not sure how it would work.
In any case the lite-dlc would be available for assets that are taken from it and if there is a possibility of setting up additional servers for those who want a different map wouldn’t take away from those who opt out of the dlc (besides players).

Assuming they follow the same process as with BAF and PMC (the previous 2 DLCs), even if you don’t own the DLC, you’ll be able to use the assets in multiplayer, at a lower than standard resolution. With BAF-lite and PMC-lite you can play MP missions that use the equipment from these DLC even if you don’t own them… they have a lower resolution for the textures however. The benefit of owning the DLC is access to the singleplayer parts, and improved/standard textures.

So, even if this is incorporated into DayZ, you won’t NEED to buy it to play DayZ. Assuming they go the same way as the previous DLCs. In fact, iirc, DayZ already uses PMC assets, but you don’t NEED to own PMC to play… it just uses the PMC-lite assets if you don’t own it.

Sod it, I just spent £40 on the Arma X pack with all dlc included and now they tell me there is more.
Looks interesting but certainly won’t be pre-ordering given that I don’t usually do so and I have plenty of Arma content to make my way through.

Not that limited, think of all the new players who’ve bought ARMA for Day-Z!

I was one of those players, and I imagine as the Day-Z team adds in new features, those numbers will only swell. Bottom line: ARMA II is still selling very well, and a DLC will probably be well-received.

Oh, and kudos to BI for picking a less-than-common army to model. Plus they have home-team advantage in terms of access to gear, soldiers, etc.

I bought Arma2 for DayZ but guess what, I only played 10 minutes of ARMA2. I have no idea of whether it was the core game or DLC, but I noticed it didn’t have zombies in it, and I kept getting told that there was a submachine gun, 250 metres, nine o’clock just before receiving a bullet in the head.

You have to go into the editor section to see what really makes Arma II great. Put in a bunch of tanks and soldiers for each side then play a civilian and watch the carnage. It’s so easy to set up any scenario you want. Even dayz is relatively easy to make yourself; most of the mod is already what Arma was made to do.

Personally I believe the single player missions are just really poor examples of what you can do in the editor. To me it’s been nothing but a sandbox game.

Ooh more foresty maps with perhaps the added interiors that came with the maps from OA onward? Also perhaps the single player missions will be more like their more recent efforts?
Colour me interested.
I couldn’t care less about Czech army units and weapons though. Sorry Czech soldiers.

Yeah, if I get this, it will be solely for the beautiful map(s). I was disappointed that OA had such an ugly, boring map (I understand that it’s meant to parallel the real-life Iraq/Afghanistan war, but that doesn’t mean a 164 km^2 map of barren desert, is interesting) and that the other two DLC didn’t take place in Chernarus – or, even better, have their own good-looking maps. This looks like exactly what I want.

Also, you do need the DLC to play DLC content. Just like BF3. But everyone can play on regular servers for both games.

Wrong. With the release of DLC, Bohemia have updated the base games, regardless of whether you own the DLC or not, with the DLC Lite. This allows you to play on servers/missions using the DLC content, even if you haven’t bought it – you get lower res textures, but can still play. You don’t need the DLC to play the DLC content with ArmA2. Buying the DLC gives you access to the single player, and better texture quality.

Stop being wrong. You dont get access to everything, you dont get the equipment. you dont get mods, you dont get alot of things, esp when it comes to all DLC content not provided.

Why do people think that bf3 is dividing the community? It doesnt matter if you bought the DLC or not, everyone can play together on regular servers, and you can pick up weapons you dont have access to use and use them. You dont suddenly become incompatible with other players because you dont buy the expansions, you just dont get the new content. Just like This DLC.

Stop being wrong yourself. That’s ArmA2 Free, a FREE version of one of their games they released. What Snuffy is talking about, is the DLC. BAF, PMC and this. With BAF and PMC, the base game was updated with BAF and PMC Lite. This means that for multiplayer, you don’t need to own the DLC to join the games. You get the assets, with lower quality textures. With this method, everyone can play on all servers.

With the way many multiplayer shooters do new paid maps, anyone that doesn’t buy the new content is incompatible with anyone that is playing the new content, and thus either unable to join those servers, or dropped any time those maps come up. That fragments the playerbase. ARMA 2 doesn’t do that with the DLC (admittedly, Operation Arrowhead does split that, and ARMA 2 Free is more limited in compatibility, but OA is essentially the core ARMA 2 experience these days and ARMA 2 Free isn’t intended to be a full substitute for buying the game.)

Personally I don’t particularly care because I don’t play competitive multiplayer, but that’s the rationale.

I can count 3 pieces of DLC: BAF, PMC and this new one. That’s not precisely a huge amount since 2009 when A2 released. Or even 2010 when OA released. Unless we count OA as DLC? Which seems wrong to me. But that would still only make it 4. Over 3 years.

it might seem wrong, but OA is a requirement for all other DLC. If you own the original AA2, you cant just buy the other DLC, gotta buy OA also.

Its a clever way to sell more. Sell the original game. Release a stand alone expansion, which people will love you for because its standalone, then require the Standalone for all future DLC. SNEAKY SNEAKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What is Battlefield 3 released an expansion, and then required all future releases to require that expansion…………………………….yeah buddy. RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

If you knew all you needed about them you’d know, as pointed out by Unaco several times, that the DLC does not prevent anyone from playing on a server that has it. You just get lower quality assets from the DLCs.

As for the original Arma 2, there is no DLC to split any community. The DLC is for the expandalone. If people want to play the original Arma 2 in the original executable they can do that (though I don’t know how many servers run it.) But most people play in OA, myself included, even when using assets from A2.

There really is no split as it’s 2 separate games.

Edit: is there an outrage over the BF3 DLC incidentally? I’m somewhat annoyed by the premium stuff they’re rolling out, but I got no issues with DLC for BF3. B2K was pretty good, if rather expensive. That said, none of my regular servers run B2K maps due to not everybody having them. So I need to go elsewhere to play those. That’s annoying. And that shows the potential issue with map packs. That’s not what is (or will be happening) with Arma though.

I havent purchased the booster packs for AA2, but if i remember right, i cant use selected equipment from those in multiplayer, others can, but i cant. I quite playing AA2 a long time ago.

A standalone expansion is still just an expansion of the original game. Hence standalone Expansion. People would have absolutely raged about BF3 if instead of DLC, they released all the additional content as an entirely seperate game.

There is nothing with what bohemia is doing. FYI i own AA2/OA. I know all i need to know about the games.

Bullsh*t, because you’ve been talking crap this whole thread… Claiming that ArmA DLC meant you couldn’t play on servers using it if you didn’t own it (YOU CAN), linking to ArmA2 Free when we’re talking about DLC. I don’t think ANYTHING you’ve said here has been accurate.

I’m not precisely sure why you call it booster packs? What does it boost?

The DLC is available for anyone in at least a Lite version and you don’t *need* the campaigns unless you enjoy playing Arma in single player. I sincerely don’t understand what it is that eludes you.

Oh, by the way, another difference between this DLC and the BF3 you keep going on about: this has been released over the course of 3 years. The BF3, B2K in particular, was released very close to the base game.

Unaco. Please quote me on that if you can. Several other people have said that. I never said that people couldnt play together(other than if 1 person owns AA2 and the other owns the xpac. My linking to free was merely for the information listed on that page. The entire point i was making here was the foolishness of the battlefield 3 ragers. There was no outrage here. But people are freaking there

wrong. AA2 and OA are both needed for full content. If i own AA2, and you own OA the standalone EXPANSION PACK. We cannot play together. Esp if i want to play any mods, they basically all require both games. I cant just load up AA2 and start playing with you guys.

Now lets talk about stand alone expansion packs in other games. dawn of war 2 and Chaos rising standalone expansion integrate with each other, you dont need both to play with each other, just both for all the content. We all get to play together and against each other. So i could play against Chaos, but not as Chaos, on all the new maps. They later moved to Steam with the next expansion breaking that compatibility.

“If i own AA2, and you own OA the standalone EXPANSION PACK. We cannot play together.”

That’s like saying, if I own BFBC2 and you own BF2, we can’t play together. NO SHIT. They’re different games, hence the STANDALONE. That isn’t what was being questioned though. You claimed that someone who DIDN’T own BAF or PMC couldn’t play with those who do own it. You were wrong, which you just won’t admit.

“Also, you do need the DLC to play DLC content. Just like BF3. But everyone can play on regular servers for both games.”

That is me refering to the must have requirement of Operation Arrowhead. Sorry i didnt make that perfectly clear back then, but i have said it multiple times since.

As i have already pointed out that Dawn of war 2 had an standalone expansion. Chaos Rising. People who only own Chaos rising, can play with people that happen to only own Dawn of war 2. So dont give me the its a standalone expansion bullcrap line.

Is this for Arma 2, or for Arma 2: OA? Just curious, because OA had some nice features (backpacks, thermal imaging, etc) that I’d like to see in this DLC. I’m assuming OA/CO, as that’s what PMC and BAF were for.

Bukovina? really, now what’s that got to do with the Czech Republic? it’s an area split between Romania and Ukraine, not even bordering Transcarpathia (which is is a bit of land where I *could* imagine the Czechs being involved in (still a stretch)

Hah, both of the new map names are related to Romania: Bystrica is actually derived from Bistrita-Nasaud, a county located in the so-called “Oriental” Carpathians, and Bukovina is an historical region on the border between Romania and Ukraine, pretty close to Bistrita-Nasaud.

Both maps would look great if the devs from Bohemia take into account the real terrain features in these two regions. Unfortunately, all we can see is just a retextured Elektrozavodsk.