Evolution - defies accepted science

Why do creationists always rely on this dichotomy of evolution to strengthen their points?

Macroevolution refers to how new species and taxa are created, I realize this. There are different types of speciation (allopatric, parapatric and
sympatric); speciation is a topic of much debate among evolutionary biologists; but what do you suggest - Goddidit? Hello, we have molecular
clocks!

Concerning natural selection and humans, technological advancements in medicine and the standard of living have improved in developed nations, so we
are protected (somewhat) from the vagaries of nature.

Natural selection has not stopped, but it has been slowed down. Sexual selection is still at work and natural selection still operates in parts of the
developing world.

Cultural evolution is working faster than biological evolution, but both have to be taken into consideration regarding the changes in our
species.

That was exactly my argument. Both Creation and Evolution should be taught. Pretty much all science is "accepted" theory (In what we consider fact).
You shouldn't say, "well this is all we got, so let's teach it."

The students should have a choice.

I am not against Science; I love science, matter of fact, I am a student of Number Theory. However, I do think students should be able to make a
choice, or their parents at the least.

If it has not been observed, then it is not fact. It is a Theory, which is being accepted as fact with a very faulty basis.

I didn't think my mathematical sarcasm would be that hard to understand. Guess i was wrong.

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But it has been observed, not this "macro-evolution" which is irrelevant, but evolution. One example is the milk thing I mentioned earlier. We know
evolution happens, it is a fact, people refuse to accept that. We have observed evolution a hell of a lot more than we have observed god, that first
sentence of yours is very ironic.

And I don't think you understand the concept of sarcasm, but that's not relevant, it has no place here anyway.

Evolution isn't easy to observe because it's such a slow process, but that doesn't mean it's not a fact.

"If it has not been observed, then it is not fact"

Well that's not true, something is either true or false whether you know it or not, but again that's irrelevant because we know it's a fact.

The problem with that absurd proposition is that creationism describes their theory
something like this: God created everything. The end. Everyone knows it, we don't need to be taught it... what the hell is there to be taught that a
church can't teach? Where as the theory of evolution is a vastly complex subject with many different sub-topics and areas of research, it can take an
entire life time to learn all we know about evolution.

Micro-Evolution is just adaptations (through a gene pool) and Natural Selection.

Adaptations is the wrong word, evolution doesn't have a will, mutations are chance. This whole micro macro thing is stupid, evolution on a small
scale (micro-evolution) will eventually equal evolution on a large scale (I.E new species).
Stop trying to distinguish two types.

I do not agree that creationism should be taught in schools. To begin with, what God (or gods/goddesses) is responsible for creation? There have been
hundreds of religions throughout the course of human history; do you realize how many different points of view will have to be taught?

I do not agree that creationism should be taught in schools. To begin with, what God (or gods/goddesses) is responsible for creation? There have been
hundreds of religions throughout the course of human history; do you realize how many different points of view will have to be taught?

He probably means creationism according to the right religion, which is of course his religion.

In the United States, Christianity is the biggest belief system; Muslims won't be an Issue. They pretty much believe in the Bible's version of events.
Creation is in the old testament, which Muslims read.

So two of the word's biggest religions shouldn't have much of a problem.

If the kids want to opt out of the creation class, they should be able to do so and take another class.

Micro-Evolution is just adaptations (through a gene pool) and Natural Selection.

Oh god is seems you really don't understand something about
this. Macro-evolution relates to large changes over extremely large periods of time. Micro-evolution relates to small changes over relatively
small periods of time. Macro-evolution is not the sudden appearance of some new elaborate change in a species, macro-evolution happens because
over extremely long periods of times, many small changes build up into huge changes, and the species you started with may no longer even look like the
species you finish with.

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