South Sudan army did not yet withdraw from disputed areas, spokesperson

January 9, 2013 (JUBA/KHARTOUM) - The South Sudanese army has not received orders withdraw from the border disputed areas from its military leadership, said Philip Aguer SPLA spokesperson on Wednesday denying reports about removal of southern troops from the disputed areas.

SPLA soldier stands in a parade during their 29th anniversary celebrations in South Sudan’s capital Juba (Reuters)

"What the president has said was a policy statement. The operational directive to the ministry of defence from the presidency has not been issued," told Sudan Tribune.

Aguer spoke to Sudan Tribune after an announcement made in Khartoum by General Eiman Eldeen Adawi, member of the joint political security committee that President Salva Kiir has ordered the withdrawal of the SPLA troops from the disputed areas.

The Sudanese military who was briefing journalists this week about the outcome of the presidential summit over the implementation of security arrangements deal, further said the pulling out operation should terminate on 16 January.

Also, he added that Salva Kiir ordered to disengage with the SPLM- North and expected that 10 crossing points on the common border would be opened by the end of next March as talks on the technical preparations should start in Addis Ababa during the upcoming days.

The African mediation in a statement issued on 5 January said the two leaders directed that upcoming joint meeting of the security committee "should ensure that the Safe Demilitarised Border Zone is created without further delay consistent with these agreed Security Arrangements".

However, Aguer explained that the troops withdrawal should be initiated from both sides of the common border

"This is process will be monitored by an independent body to ensure that it has been started by both sides", Aguer told Sudan Tribune.

President Salva Kiir Mayardit, before travelling to Addis Ababa last week to attend a summit with his Sudanese counterpart, announced temporary withdrawal of the army from the border areas in order to allow implementation of the September deal.

In response to presidential announcement, South Sudanese deputy defence minister, Majak D’ Agoot, toured the positions of the SPLA troops on the disputed border areas and held number of military briefings during which he explained the withdrawal processes to the soldiers.

He further warned that they must remain vigilant saying Sudanese army was taking advantage of withdrawal plans, instead of taking similar measures to pull out northwards from contested areas.

Following a UN Security consultations meeting on Bashir-Kiir summit on Tuesday, US Ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Rice urged the two parties to "move from rhetoric to action" and to implement the 27 September agreements without further delay.

In their 13 January meeting of the negotiating teams should focus on the rebel groups as the Sudanese sides insists that Juba government has to cut its support to the SPLM- North and other Darfur movements.

Further , since the first meeting of the joint political and security committee in Juba Sudan proposed also to extend the demilitarized zone to include the border with South Kordofan and Blue Nile in order to stop rebel cross border operations.

The SLPM-N Secretary General Yasir Arman said their troops control 40 percent of the border in South Kordofan and Blue Nile where they fight the government troops.

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10 January 2013 09:37, by Nuer Dominated Liberation of South Sudan

How many times Philip Aguer would lie,and try to correct mistake done by our President Salva. I’m asking our President not to bring our morale down to its knees. We are capable of defending our terrories. And we don’t need any other from the out side to help on our own problem. Politics is that If they are weak,and they want to bring our Moral down, then we will not eccept that kind of acts.

The SPLA should be extra careful. Khartoum’s shrewdness in taking such an advantage is real. NCP is not a partner always acting in good faith. This is a common knowledge for us all. SPLA must not accept any unilateral withdrawal as it gives Khartoum cabals to manipulate as it did on many occasions. Simultanous, transparent withdrwal of forces has to done.It tests political will of both sides.

HAHAH.you sound like a Dinka Bargazal,and how come smear that dirty name to me a lone. Equatorian would have a right to call us Jangei, if u can not accept yoru dirty work in Lake States. Northenr Bar El Gazal Please don’t embrass yourself here dog...packe your ass up,and go get fuck by Nuer of Bentiu since you are a women.

to william mawien
I think it is you who is actually useless and not Nuer dominated ,, and because you are off point, another thing I am you are an agent who want to create difference ,and hatred among us as Dinka ,Nuer and all other tribes .you will be ignored simply, we the people south Sudan are united and will fight against whoever tries to put his or her dirty nose on our issues

Hahahah, Is this man crazy? Nuer are not cattle raiders as many of Dinkas coward boys spoiled Nuer’s reputation in the public site. Make you own assessement to acquaint yourself with correct information about the number of Nuer soldiers in the frontline both N Barelgazal and Upper Nile. we are proud to be Nuer as world recognized our strength. Dinkas are Nuer’s wives and we are your men.Aren’tyou?

to Tom D and William.
you guys are horrible, you need to school to learn more and get educated.because low education is really a disaster , or both of you are Arab agents to the people of South Sudan. you mission is known it is to create conflicts among the people of this great nation ,all tribes nuer and dinka are blessing to this south sudan, STOP BACKWARDNESS IF YOU ARE A SOUTH SUDANE

Nuer dominated or whatever they call you..
bear in mind, you with your likes who are hired to create divisions will surely see themselves in hot pan... why call it a lie, i put it clearly yesterday when idiot called Sudani ana called it a breaking news!!!!. SPLA has not withdrawn, henceforth it should be done simultaneously.

Nuer Dominated’
You are totally right boy’ we SPLA we are capable of defendig our borders regardless of any assistant coming from outside countries’ the withdrawll can be only practice when there is an independent International soldiers’ not the fucking Ethopian UNISFA sodiers those there stomach is pull with Massiriya cows meat. And only 10km not up to their mother fuck 14mile that they claim.

The stament is pretty clear. "What the president has said was a policy statement. The operational directive to the ministry of defense from the presidency has not been issued," Khartoum is simply playing the "game of issuing probing public statements" in order to move in instead of withdrawing 10 miles away northward from the disputed areas. Who is fooling who here?

The stament is pretty clear. "What the president has said was a policy statement. The operational directive to the ministry of defense from the presidency has not been issued," Khartoum is simply playing the "game of issuing probing public statements" in order to move in instead of withdrawing 10 miles away northward from the disputed areas. Who is fooling who here?

Guys, this withdrawal on the border is a West ploy & shrouded way of gaining access to the oil wells at the border. Our leaders think they are clever but they have been out-tricked by the West & their arabs financiers again. Mark my word. The positions where each armies are currently stationed, has nothing to let them remain there & work out the final solutions.

Do you people know that the Europeans, the US corporations their gulf states financiers want a NEW DUBAI in N Sudan runs by neo-colonists West? And would be resources’ supply by Chad, CAR, S Sudan & Ethiopia? Our current S Sudan’s top leadership like Mr. Riak who just loves laughing & his cowboy head leader are playing dangerous game with S Sudanese lives..

..The leadership must very careful always on these Europeans-Americans imposed deals. They have nasty sinister agenda behind them. A SECOND 21st BERLIN CONFERENCE for Sudan IS SCHEDULED FOR THE END of this month, to raise money for NEW DUBAI project. We remember the FIRST BERLIN OF THE 19th CENTURY’S project aren’t we? The West & arabs Neo-colonalism on africa has already been deviced & is here.

Tutbol,
Don’t mix up things. How can the withdrawal of forces be a Western policy? It was at the suggestion of AUHIP leadership that the idea of force withdrawal came, 10 miles from both sides. Yes, the West and other Arab stakeholders may have vested interests in our oil, thus encouraged the idea.

It won’t cost them anything if our oil pipeline is not open and operate. The security and economic burdens resulting to inaction of both sides are squarely on us, not the West and their Arab financiers.

EES kingmaker,
do you think it is that hard all along to bring in the instransigent N Sudan on dealing in good faith on post seccession issues? To which 98% of S Sudanese peacefully opted out? but your trusted AU & its West stooge AUHIP, the AL & the West couldn’t bring the culprit to book? But it was never mean to be & will be. Bro. are so naive on these world geo-political scheme of things.

EES Kingmaker,
I thought you are that smart to know what the AUHIP is. Anyway your knowlege of our AU made you think i am mixing things up. Alright but i know all these plots than u may believe. Let us bet here if what i am saying will not be where chips will fall then i will find you out & give a € 1000, i be pleased to hear ur part. That so-called temporary arrangement isn’t what its really is.

Tutbol
You and I agree the Sudan, as it stands now, is an intransigent nation in character. We have seen how Khartoum has been constantly shifting its position to implement post-secession issues. You know the way it acts in bad faith all the time. Yet NCP is a legitimate govt. in Khartoum (at least in the eyes of the UN, AU) wants to go war with South Sudan. These are facts that we all know.

Your assumption that AU, AUHIP and AL are Western stooges is a statement that holds no water. Surprisingly you made this statement without substantial evidence to back up your false assertion and your ‘jumbled thinking of things in space’. AUHIP which is a body mandated by AU has no intention to betray us. Do you know these bodies you falsely charged help facilitate CPA brother?

Again,don’t mix up individual national interests and regional, world peace efforts. Do you know AUHIP personalities involved in the current mediation? Do you finance the mediation efforts and why? What do you know about the present trend of geo-politics you emptily boast of? I clearly understand the AUHIP and how it was set up and why those personalities are there.

Lastly but not the least, brother Tutbol,I don’t and will never bet over the obvious. I will not subscribe to cold philosophy. Did you see or hear a blind man directing someone with full sight? Please, think straight and not in a lopsided manner. Freely respond and am ready to go with you for full debate.

My friend as i said before i am not going to waste my time debating with the one who proves to nothing outside S Sudan. Yes i know, the EU, AL, the US corporations foot the bills. The AUHIP head, mr. Mbeki was proposed to mediate by the those footing the bills. IGAD the regional body that successful negotiated the CPA was sidelined for it was not working for the interests of the bill footers.

Just forget about it bro. You know little about these & i will not waste my energy explaining these complicated geo-political events impacting the current climate in the Sudans to a greeny. I told you i know all these these organisations schemes than you could believe. Do your own research!! Yes they helped bring the CPA but things didn’t go the AU & AL way for non S Sudan secession.

The reverse is true bro. The Geo-politics you claimed to know are too deep for you to grasp. Your poor writing and thinking processes are quite telling. Of course you backed down beacuse issues are complicated and form ‘grey areas’ for your little coconut to comprehend them in a logical way. What sinister schemes do know these organizations plan to execute on?

Don’t pretend to know what you are far from and never heard one day one time. Honesty in debate saves you. It can help you learn hard things. AU and AL started from day one of CPA negotiation to the implementation stages, including tacitly approving the secession of South Sudan. What are you are then trying to tell us that they were not involved?

Hey fool! Get your damn acts together. I am not going to be dragged to your village knowlege and all. Talk over other things that i am not giving you because i found out you are nothing but a grand fool. My advice, keep clear of writing style. Let’s bet for an assay writing contest fool & we would be judged by everyone on this site. Choose a topic of your choice chap & post it right now.

I don’t think a final year civil engineering post-graduate from Berlin technical university would be admonished by your like. I thought you were the one i advised sometimes back to revisit his comprehension skill, aren’t you? Anyway don’t get me started. Let’s leave it right there simple & square for you don’t know any of these issues beyond your village & S Sudan, if at all you know any.

EES kingmaker,
I was right after all, your knowlege of all thing politics even in our own region is almost nil. AL was not in favour of S Sudan referandum but in favour to defer the referandum exercise. Most AU member states except the IGAD members; were even against S Sudan’s seperation from the North, because they believed it will set a new precedent for other states to split. Do your research!!

EES Kingmaker
"Don’t pretend to know what you are far from and never heard one day one time. Honesty in debate saves you. It can help you learn hard things" I think debates is going saves you as you said. I like your writing with knowledge of vocabularies but its doesn’t guarantee that you have good judgemental for every things or you are a good critical thinker or knowledge about every thing.

EES
You want Tutbol to give you example about Western conspiracy he talking about, well let me give you an example, former US representative called Scott Gration proposed that Abyei need to be divided, that was one of the stupid conspiracy thinking, and that is one coming from so called friend Country which happened to be west. Other one is when US Hillary Cliton flow to Juba, all agreements signe

EES
Other one is when US Hillary Cliton flew to Juba, its happened that all agreement were signed included 14 mille that let most of Southerners disagreed absulotely.Why because I alway uses The words "givein" infact when you pressurizes by strong countries like West and short sight like President we have, you givein, its happened in Panthou which is another example Man.

EES Kingmaker
I would like to recommended you to do research first for you to made argueing to somebody idea. About Scott Gration, read article posted by Eric Reeves,because he’s good with quoting exactly what come out from somebody mouth. I guess you know that all European Union were against closed of oil flow.

Deng II,
I was not giving some of these comments because of my critical thinking or my being knowledgeable on all issues. It might be what you thought is the case. You are free to judge and conclude that what you think I know or don’t know. Any judgment has its own merit. It can be a good or poor one. But put to mind judge does not give you any finality of correctness.

Political conspiracies in the world are moved by interests of any nation, whether in the third world or the West. The US interests are what made it to get involved in world issues, including peace in the then Sudan, secession of South Sudan and now post-secession issues. The proposal of dividing Abyei by US special envoy, Scott Gration can’t be termed a Western conspiracy.

Aside from the proposal US brought forward, which nation forced that proposal down our throats? It is a proposal that can either be accepted or rejected. Government of Sudan accepted the proposal wholeheartedly while our Government, the people vehemently rejected it. The poor story ended up there. Whatever a conspiracy, it can’t work unless allowed by all parties, knowingly or unknowingly.

Deng II, you know the involvement and determination of US in Sudan-South Sudan affairs and how it spent millions of dollars to see we remain in peace. We need to be grateful to US, some of our friends, and allies in the region and around the world. Reducing their efforts to conspiracy signifies mixed signs on our part. You know what it may entail if this creeps into our national psyche.

Yes, Mile 14 was a crucial point in the last series of agreements signed in Addis Ababa Presidential Summit on 27/09/2012. It brought uproar as most South Sudanese disagreed about its inclusion as part of demilitarized zone. How did this constitute Western conspiracy? As another example, you think you can give on Tutbol’s behalf, there is nothing like conspiracy here.

Unless you have a new meaning of conspiracy, I see no point there. It is not relevant at all. Again the Panthou crisis is not a conspiracy as such. It is simply the weakness of our own diplomacy that made the world not to know who aggressed first. The world was ignorant about events leading to SPLA attack, occupation and control of the oil installations as our response to series of bombardment.

So the world didn’t know our being a victim. Due to Sudan swift diplomacy, we were exposed and viewed as an aggressor. Do you blame this to Western conspiracy also? Brother, what research do you need to carry before giving my comments to someone’ view? Is it to agree with you even if you are dead wrong? Eric Reeves is an authority on South Sudan affairs.

I love his writings. Most of his views are critical to some of our future plans. Some of his writings are a challenge to us a nation, especially South Sudan-Sudan relations. I need not to dwell on oil closer saga. I think you are fully aware of circumstances surrounding oil close down by Government. It is you to judge for yourself whether the decision was correct or wrong.

EES kingmaker,
Another typo of yours "what sinister schemes do know". I think bro. You crossed me badly. But anyhow, you tried your best to portrayed me as someone who isn’t ’thinking clearly’, but if you are honest to yourself then i may put it to you that your own thinking isn’t normal.

EES Kingmaker’
Hi my friend wake up’ where do you think this AUHIP got this capability of this hard proposals? it might be a westren policy just imagine why the western countries are not condemning Khartoum on it is aggressions toward S Sudan? and remember what happened when we enter our land Panthou which were occupied by SAF this is a simple prove that westren have same transactions with Sudan.

EES kingmaker,
You are just a little pig-head from EES who is clueless how interlinks these problems with the North are with the lands, resources & geo-politics influences. Supper powers fear that, by S Sudan taking with it 75% of the united Sudan’s wealth could destabalise the North & indeed the region & many other factors like water uses that caused disquiets in the arab world. Just because your knowlege is confined to your village...

Foxtail,
Organized, agreed withwrawal of our SPLA forces as part of security arrangement in demilitrized buffer zone, is not running away.There is time for everything. It is now diplomacy time. War will come if dipolmacy fails. As we prepare for peace is also another way to get ready for war if peaceful attempts to dissuade NCP warlords run into tatters. Let’s get cool and wait for the next step.

Dear Nuer Domin...
They know the mistaken in the morning, but at night they talk without control their beer’s when they are gather to sipping their wine at hotel. then in the morning realize they had said something which’s not correct to the media.

YES, you are right Big Boy. Next South Sudan generation will set a time frame for Alcohol as well as going out for chills. We don’t need to mix-up all things while our country is falling a part. This is not acceptable at all. We will set up some guidance policies which controls our populations from doing things which make us weak. use of Alcohol for example is the major mistake at this time.

Nuer Domin... and Big Boy,
Yes, alcohol ruins. It ruins our leaderhip. It ruins our youth and women. Hoc an we control it and its rampant consumption? It is a collective responsiblity but let’s keep buzzing on the ears of our leadership, reminding them of the dangers of scourge.

Mr. William Tor Mawien, lol..we have to correct our leader. If you are an Arabi like your Dinkad Dominated shit just tell me, I will deal with you both Arab Niggas. I don’t care how long you have been a slave , been a begger,and been thiefts in Juba. I will deal with this kind of Argly creature of Dinka...that is why Some Dinka who are not related to Nuer are so Argly.

Mr nuer dominated cattle raider of south sudan
you right mr cattle raider ;;;???;;;mr cow boy and his vice mr laughter are the cause of this problem ;;;4.7$ which they stole was was very useful ;;;;india bought 72 fighter jets and 47 helcopters from ruhssia now we would be one bombarding saf in our land (disputed areas)

Spla oyeeeeee
sudan s most advanced army did not yet withdraw from the disputed areas ;;????;????;;spla is the most advanced army in both sudans
saf is very weak army ;;;;;;by the way nothern sudan does not have advanced army like south sudan
nothern sudan only uses herds men to fight enemies
misseryia herdsmen
how can rebel group repulse saf if it is national army? From jabel mara;;;????

Master,
Read South Sudanese people all comments in the websites. We Southerns Sudanese we don’t talk oil pipeline to goes to North Sudan port. What we care is our South Sudan lands from North Sudan control to be in South Sudan. So we have planning already for oil pipeline to be construct to Kenya Port, this is what most of us we Southerns Sudanese are planning.

Master,
Read South Sudanese people all comments in the websites. We Southerns Sudanese we don’t talk oil pipeline to goes to North Sudan port. What we care is our South Sudan lands from North Sudan control to be in South Sudan. So we have planning already for oil pipeline to be construct to Kenya Port, this is what most of us we Southerns Sudanese are planning.

Master do you need oil or do you need land we consider giving you the land north from El-Obed to Khartoum that is mile 16 base and you are still demading more land how greedy are you guys? if you need oil dig it and go imediately we don’t want any more you become monotonus after south sudaness Arab are the useless people all over the world we say we don’t need you and you are still follow us.

& another bunch of the so-called neutral UN looters would be deployed on the common border to loot the place on behave of Europeans, the US & arab masters! A Second Eastern Congo UN’s looting axis is being blatantly created on everyone watch! I will be damned if a permenant UN looting base hasn’t been established. It will not be long before a temporary arrangement gives way to a permenant UN base!

Premitive Mr. Mawien, we are not Sudan’s most Army, we are South Sudan Army. Yaa Argly Creature. Learn like your leader. You have been a slave for a long time that is why you couldn’t learn a letter A...Monkey is now smarter than you.

Nuer dominated cattle raider of south sudan
bentieu bor lakes are not civilised states in south sudan ???;???;they contue stealing cattle among themself ;;why can’t you copy from civilised state of yambio torit aweil and other civilised states

Nonsense,Dinka thinks they are majority in eating orphan money,Majority in getting fuck by arab, majority in premitivity,and Majority in Curruption. Majority in hatred...Angly creature....they learn through their ass...put that bullet through their ass, they will learn like those who learn in bor in 1991.

William Son Bitch Nuer was not raider Cattle like you people of Dinkas, Nuer they have Law ,they have history, they have good religious back ground ,nuer they have kinds-Ship and Good Marries Nuer was not abducted the children like you Dinkas , Nuer are loving their Nieghboring Nuer was riches people event now,you will not die in Nuer Land because of poverty,Nuer are strongest Nation Like Israel.

Nuer are the people who believe God Like Israel. Nuer will not forgetting the God for the Poverty like you Dinkas . Nuer are people of God that is what they calling N3y tin Naath , mean they are really people in the world , let me give the meaning Jieng , Jieng in Nuer Meaning they are Slaves people.

Sudani,
Why do you care of others oil flow? Don’t you have your own to care about? The primary focus of South Sudanese now is to get every inch of their land secure. When it comes to oil going to the international market; there are countless routes to the market. Just pay more attention to the one you have if you have any.

Sudan anus,
Yesterday you wrote something like BREAKING NEWS!how do you feel now,shameless wicked Arab wanabee.SAF is sheer propaganda, don’t believe anything from them.FYI,south Sudan is currently constructing two mini-refineries.they’ll function this July.so your assertion of no money is a fart of a mad dog.

Stupid bitch Sudani,
The entire world does not live on oil. South sudan does not live on oil. our troops, the mighty spla defeated you in battles not because somebody paid them money to fight. our civilians likewise lived for over yrs without salaries. it is therefore not strange. we are diverting all oil transactions and operations eastward and will soon take abyei and panthou. just wait to se

Withdrawal should not be initiated by South Sudan this time again. We are being taken for granted by International Community and the company. Time and again South Sudan had and has been soft and easy to reached by International Community for their concerns on matters pending on two states.
Let’s not go two steps further than Sudan because our sacrifices for peace and stability are always put in vain by Sudan. In my opinion, the more we withdraw the greater occupation and annexation that will follow.

Our leaders should learn from the previous mistake before repeating another mistake as late Garang said. If South Sudan is used by the worlgd as good example then, the same world will prove us as stupid "as what goes round come round" According to the article, withdrawal of SPLA forces from the disputed border should not be propagate by Khartoum in such manner otherwise,we will be easy going natio

Let them withdraw immediately from disputed areas,NNOO to war who else you want to push to endless war like during SPLA. Others ran to Khartoum and others to East Africa for hide. If those freedom fighters can,t find 20by15 plot in Juba for putting tool than who want to die for the sake

All those areas that has become disputed areas are belongs to South Sudan. It is duty of SPLA to defend the territories and people of South Sudan.
Arabs are just intruders who want to occupy resourceful land of South Sudan, that is why they claim every land that has oil. They want to annex to their country even the land that has oil in the center of South Sudan.

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