Lol so in door hard court is not a fast environment? When he has been winning this tournament you ***** kept saying he wins it because it's fast and he is the best indoors well djoker showed he can play on fast conditions too ala whipping fed two years in a row at the USO a fast event.

Whipping Federer two years in a row at the USO? Both of those matches went to five sets and could have gone either way. There was no whipping involved.

The point is people are responding to your claim that Djokovic is a better attacking player than Federer and that is a preposterous claim. Only way for Djokovic to defeat Federer is to play better defense and force Federer to make an error. When Federer is on with his attacking game and makes less errors Djokovic can't beat him and certainly can't beat Federer with a better attacking game!

Whipping Federer two years in a row at the USO? Both of those matches went to five sets and could have gone either way. There was no whipping involved.

The point is people are responding to your claim that Djokovic is a better attacking player than Federer and that is a preposterous claim. Only way for Djokovic to defeat Federer is to play better defense and force Federer to make an error. When Federer is on with his attacking game and makes less errors Djokovic can't beat him and certainly can't beat Federer with a better attacking game!

But if Djokovic forced Federer to make errors, that is forced errors, not unforced!

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But if Djokovic forced Federer to make errors, that is forced errors, not unforced!

Yes, forced errors, unforced errors, whatever kind of errors, Djokovic is NOT a better attacking player than Federer is. Djokovic is all about great defense. He can defeat Federer by hanging back on the baseline and getting Federer to hit that extra shot, he is not going to defeat Federer because he is the better attacking player!

Yes, forced errors, unforced errors, whatever kind of errors, Djokovic is NOT a better attacking player than Federer is. Djokovic is all about great defense. He can defeat Federer by hanging back on the baseline and getting Federer to hit that extra shot, he is not going to defeat Federer because he is the better attacking player!

Sure it is. It is just as Federer gets older he makes more errors. Considering the head to head for this year is 3-2 for Djokovic, I would say that Federer can still keep up with Djokovic most of the time, wouldn't you?

Sure it is. It is just as Federer gets older he makes more errors. Considering the head to head for this year is 3-2 for Djokovic, I would say that Federer can still keep up with Djokovic most of the time, wouldn't you?

What part of "not anymore" didn't you understand? French Open 2011 was 1.5 years ago. Not saying Federer is incapable of beating Djokovic on Clay, because he is, but Djokovic is more likely to win those matches right now. Because his defense is better than Federer's offense on Clay right now. But on his day, Federer can still beat him.

Novak does NOT have equally good attacking skills as Federer. Federer is by far the better attacker. Novak is better at this point from the baseline than Federer is and can camp there all day long. Novak just waits for Federer to create an error by hitting back one more shot. He is NOT, I repeat is not, a better attacker than Federer!

I charted 7 games of the 1st set and DJ's % on attacking short balls was far
better than Fed's for those games.

I think the motivation for Federer will also be related to how long he's willing to push to win that elusive 18th slam title. I doubt he will win AO2013; more likely Djokovic or Murray the way conditions have been. And RG2013 is also very unlikely. If Nadal doesn't win it then Djokovic probably will. Wimbledon 2013 may be his last chance unless he wants to play past 33. Hopefully he does.

Whipping Federer two years in a row at the USO? Both of those matches went to five sets and could have gone either way. There was no whipping involved.

The point is people are responding to your claim that Djokovic is a better attacking player than Federer and that is a preposterous claim. Only way for Djokovic to defeat Federer is to play better defense and force Federer to make an error. When Federer is on with his attacking game and makes less errors Djokovic can't beat him and certainly can't beat Federer with a better attacking game!

I can show many clips when djoker ran fed ragged and blasted winners past him from both sides. Thats what makes him more complete he has no weakness, he won't shank backhands into the stands ala fed. Yes his defense is the best of all time thats just back up how good he is and why he has been the best for two years. Even 2011 his h2h over fed was 5-2 but you ***** just talk about the FO 2011 its too funny.