I think Canon dilutes thier lineup with too many of the same cameras. Why would a consumer buy this vs the T4i for the same price? What's different about this and the T4i (maybe I missed that)?

You'd be surprised with how many people make a buying decision based on size alone. I'm thinking that since Canon did not make such an impact on the market, with their mirror less cameras, they might be trying something different ... who knows, it might click.

I think Canon dilutes thier lineup with too many of the same cameras. Why would a consumer buy this vs the T4i for the same price? What's different about this and the T4i (maybe I missed that)?

You'd be surprised with how many people make a buying decision based on size alone. I'm thinking that since Canon did not make such an impact on the market, with their mirror less cameras, they might be trying something different ... who knows, it might click.

You know, this goes against the flow here but I'm more interested in this camera than the eos M.

Just to clarify, I own the 5DII, 5DIII and up till recently the 7D. I also own a Lumix LX3 as a pocket camera. Professional gigs aside, I've stopped using the LX3 for social and personal events in favour of my 5DIII with the 40mm pancake. I would be interested in making this setup even more compact with a smaller body. It interests me more than the eos M and I love the quality and size of the pancake.

I guess I won't know how small this is till I feel it in my hands but if it does come to fruition and it's to my liking, I might wait till the price cools and be up for it?

I think Canon dilutes thier lineup with too many of the same cameras. Why would a consumer buy this vs the T4i for the same price? What's different about this and the T4i (maybe I missed that)?

You'd be surprised with how many people make a buying decision based on size alone. I'm thinking that since Canon did not make such an impact on the market, with their mirror less cameras, they might be trying something different ... who knows, it might click.

I would be interested in making this setup even more compact with a smaller body. It interests me more than the eos M and I love the quality and size of the pancake.

I guess I won't know how small this is till I feel it in my hands but if it does come to fruition and it's to my liking, I might wait till the price cools and be up for it?

I think Canon dilutes thier lineup with too many of the same cameras. Why would a consumer buy this vs the T4i for the same price? What's different about this and the T4i (maybe I missed that)?

You'd be surprised with how many people make a buying decision based on size alone. I'm thinking that since Canon did not make such an impact on the market, with their mirror less cameras, they might be trying something different ... who knows, it might click.

I would be interested in making this setup even more compact with a smaller body. It interests me more than the eos M and I love the quality and size of the pancake.

I guess I won't know how small this is till I feel it in my hands but if it does come to fruition and it's to my liking, I might wait till the price cools and be up for it?

+1

Yes the lineup is definitely more parts water than juicy goodness but as for consumer logic I can see there being a market for something like this, traditionally any DSLR is assumed to take better photos, but DSLRs look and are probably too complicated to operate, while the easier-to-use cameras don't appeal to the certain person that's all about "a good camera for good quality". You make a DSLR that's easy to use (Like the Fuji super zooms that are SLR sized and look like one) and maybe you can get those people too.... and I think that's ridiculous flawed logic, but money it could make.Though really, just another pathetic way to get rid of those 18mp sensors

Though really, just another pathetic way to get rid of those 18mp sensors

I don't think it is pathetic ... at the end of the day it is business, as long as a business houses can make money selling their existing ware they will ... that's just good business practice ... apart from being able to produce good cameras, lenses etc for its customers, Canon also has a responsibility to its shareholders to make money and distribute dividends etc ... besides it is not like Canon is forcing anyone to buy that camera ... if the consumer does not like it he/she is free to buy something else from another manufacturer. Personally, if "100D" does come to life, there could a good market for it ... most women and lots of men do not have big hands or the desire to grip/carry big DSLR's but if they can get DSLR quality images, faster (than the EOS-M) AF speed in a much smaller package in 100D, I think they will buy it.

Yes, indeed. Canon marketing is getting very creative (or desperate?) to come up yet another camera that has the same old (tech) 18MP sensor used so many times in many different APS-C bodies (and it cannot compete anymore with latest micro 4/3 sensors).

Instead they should rather focus on enhancing their APS-C sensor so that it at least comes close enough to the latest micro 4/3 cameras (with superior picture quality compared to Canon APS-C) that not only have small bodies but many excellent and small/light lens to choose from.

Just like Melbournite, I am looking for something more compact than my 5D III with 40mm STM without too big of a compromise in the image quality department. And yes, Dylan777, FF would be nice, but rx1-like without a viewfinder? I think I want a viewfinder. And viewfinder plus FF? If Canon can make that one small.... Ah well, you can always dream.

I think Canon dilutes thier lineup with too many of the same cameras. Why would a consumer buy this vs the T4i for the same price? What's different about this and the T4i (maybe I missed that)?

You'd be surprised with how many people make a buying decision based on size alone. I'm thinking that since Canon did not make such an impact on the market, with their mirror less cameras, they might be trying something different ... who knows, it might click.

You know, this goes against the flow here but I'm more interested in this camera than the eos M.

Just to clarify, I own the 5DII, 5DIII and up till recently the 7D. I also own a Lumix LX3 as a pocket camera. Professional gigs aside, I've stopped using the LX3 for social and personal events in favour of my 5DIII with the 40mm pancake. I would be interested in making this setup even more compact with a smaller body. It interests me more than the eos M and I love the quality and size of the pancake.

I guess I won't know how small this is till I feel it in my hands but if it does come to fruition and it's to my liking, I might wait till the price cools and be up for it?

Count me as someone else going against the flow here. I also own the 5D2 and 5D3 and coincidentally, I too have sold my 7D (and am eagerly awaiting the 7D2!).

I'm an ultra runner (marathons, 50k's, and am working on my first 50 miler) and often bring along a camera during my training runs. I've used the Powershot S95 and G12 because of their smaller sizes, but have recently brought along a T4i for better image quality. As you can imagine, size matters when trail running for hours at a time, so if Canon releases a smaller DSLR with comparable image quality, I'd get it in an instant. Every little bit helps.

It's funny that people pooh-pooh cameras based on specs alone. The thinking is that if a camera appears compromised, then it is "pointless", as one person commented. One size does not fit all, both literally and figuratively...

I'm an ultra runner (marathons, 50k's, and am working on my first 50 miler) and often bring along a camera during my training runs. I've used the Powershot S95 and G12 because of their smaller sizes, but have recently brought along a T4i for better image quality. As you can imagine, size matters when trail running for hours at a time, so if Canon releases a smaller DSLR with comparable image quality, I'd get it in an instant. Every little bit helps.

It's funny that people pooh-pooh cameras based on specs alone. The thinking is that if a camera appears compromised, then it is "pointless", as one person commented. One size does not fit all, both literally and figuratively...

Actually, I think this camera sounds great! 13.1 ounces is nothing!If you do NOT own any of the 18 MP cameras previously, this will be on the short list.It is basically a smaller 650D without flipscreen (which I hate anyway).If they throw in a thumbwheel and some other ergonomic bonuses, maybe WiFi and GPS, this could still be a kickass camera. pair it with a small prime like the 40/2.8 and it will be the same weight as a G1X (and roughly the same size too!)

You guys should stop bashing it, this thing will SELL! (when price drops to 600$, so G1X and this cost the same)