Neko456...YES. people have felt my knuckles through pads and and I never wear shin pads...gave a smart hematoma to a guy wearing thoses shin pads with plastic over them, I asked him if he was OK as he was holdin his leg on the ground

Post conditioning....my method may well be be reviled and corrected but thats cool...

Prior to makiwara training I would massage my hands and during would repetitiously give my hand a good whole body shake as I learned in Aikido...Never too hard to start and work up to harder...Knuckles, fuk sao to bent wrist strike, palm corner, to palm heel to palm below fingers, hammer fist to chop (knuckles and palm had the most repetitions and increased to most power) shaking and massaging hands between changing striking surface.

Here is where some will possibly disagree, I've tried a few Jow but when it came down to it...after hands were done (this did take a bit of time) I would massage Tiger Balm over entire hands, used a quite a bit and definite massage...then I covered them with my bag gloves (amplifies the heat) and go to the double end speed bag while I was fresh and worked combination's for a while.

Took off gloves and applied more Tiger balm if I felt necessary and massaged...

Then I went to 100lb heavy bag (note, never taped hands, the makiwara really helped train wrists to make fist, wrist and forearm a unit). I would then start shin training on bottom of bag (with gloves on), a swing on the bag allowed coverage of whole shin (~100-150 per leg 20 a leg then switch, Same pattern for hands), remove gloves rub shins with Tiger balm...

Start slow w/ gloves on, (esp hooks and straight upper cuts to base of bag as it was old and packed and the bottom was like rock) and then work power combos to bag hands first then leg and hand combos till exhausted (try timing strikes to Paul Oakenfold( or Crystal Method), his music usually dont go below 120BPM. Hydrate continually w/ 'Emergen-C' in H2O.

After done...more Tiger balm and drive home w/ gloves on (tiger balm like armouralling steering wheel).

At home one big bowl of very Hot water and one of Iced water, immerse alternately as tolerable, always keeping hot water as hot as possible....finish with massage and ...more tiger balm (careful not to rub eyes or touch the boys below...Pain will ensue.

at least 2 days between training, during which massage and flexing hand through range of motion was a habit...shins, eh so what they dont get much blood flow so rough massage till red in those two days worked for me...

-Karl. Peace.

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The question is, why? Unless you're a bare knuckles fighter, it isnt worth it. Eventually it will begin to do quiet a bit of damage and simple enjoyements, such as typing on this forum for example, will become tedious and painful.

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