Ishant, Kamran fined for argument in Bangalore T20

India quick Ishant Sharma and Pakistan keeper Kamran Akmal have been fined for their altercation in the closing overs of the Pakistan innings in Bangalore on Tuesday. The players had been involved in a heated argument in the 18th over of the chase, which Pakistan eventually completed successfully to win the first Twenty20 by five wickets.

Both players were reported to the match referee, Roshan Mahanama, by the umpires - S Ravi, C Shamsuddin, TV umpire VA Kulkarni and fourth umpire K Srinath - and charged with 'conduct contrary to the spirit to the game'. They both pleaded guilty, and Kamran was fined 5% of his match fee. Ishant, though, appealed against the penalty levied; after reviewing video footage and reiterating his view that Ishant had initiated the incident, Mahanama fined Ishant 15% of his fee.

Mahanama said with this series being so high profile, it became all the more important for the players to set the right example: "This is clearly a high profile and high-intensity series, and the players on both sides have been reminded of their responsibility. Both players recognised their duty to set the right type of example through their on-field behaviour and they have accepted that they fell short of the level of conduct required.

"The game was played in the true spirit till this incident was initiated by Ishant, who is an experienced cricketer."

The incident occurred soon after Ishant had the well-set Shoaib Malik caught of a ball that was deemed too high to be legal. Earlier the same over, Ishant had claimed Pakistan's other set batsman, Mohammad Hafeez. With the pressure building and a tight finish in view, Ishant beat Kamran and, after exchanging words in his follow-through, the two ended up standing inches apart from each other, yelling. Suresh Raina - followed by his India team-mates - came between the two, as did the umpires, but the talk continued for a while. When Ishant caught Kamran off Ashok Dinda in the next over, he was quite vocal in his celebration.

This series is a marquee one, as it revives bilateral ties between the neighbours. The previous one-on-one series between the teams was five years earlier, in late 2007, with bilateral ties hitting a roadblock following the 2008 Mumbai terror attacks.

I enjoyed the clash. I enjoyed the entire match. It was like the days of old where India were cruising only to collapse in a heap towards the end, and Pakistan were down and out at the start and grabbed victory from the jaws of defeat. Yes, this did boil over but in the heat of the moment, incidents like these as long as they don't break out into a fight only add character and spice to intense and dramatic games, and these types of confrontations shouldn't be discouraged. I believe the fines imposed were fair and relevant to the laws of the game in place, but marquee series should have the spice and flair and shouldn't be actively discouraged. If such confrontations were outlawed, marquee series like India-Pakistan, even Ashes series, would be duller and nowhere near as entertaining.

Play hard, play fair. That is the 'Spirit of Cricket' after all.

on December 26, 2012, 16:13 GMT

Not needed at all, the match fines that is. The administrators have to allow a little room for these little things. We can't let cricket be a meek, gentle sport where all that the players are doing is patting the backs of their opposition, and we certainly cannot let a high-intensity clash such as Ind-Pk be a friendly one. We have enough of the back-patting stuff in the IPL itself. Int'l cricket is serious business and the odd show of anger in a heated moment is only understandable. This is not to say that I'm against cricket being played in it's customary gentlemanly sort of way but these are times when every field of work demands professionalism, demands excellence. And an odd duel is bound to happen in such a case.

Clashes on the sporting field, as long as they're within a certain limit, only add to the character of the game. These are what give followers memories and instances to remember and hold upon. Don't we talk of the Prasad-Sohail duel even some 16 yrs. after it took place

on December 28, 2012, 10:58 GMT

in the heat of the moment ...and stress ...incidents like these can appear on screen LIVE!!..they have in past ...now ...and i am excepting the same in up-coming matches as well...this also adds spice and media hype...so what ..ENJOY! ;)

on December 27, 2012, 21:57 GMT

Cricket was always known as "A Gentleman's Game" There is absolutely no excuse for those foolishness. Batsmen should vent their frustration by attacking the bowler whilst keeping their wicket intact.Similarly the bowler can use the short ball to send a message. Not these stupid "want to fight attitude" THEY RIGHTLY DESERVED TO BE FINED

on December 27, 2012, 20:00 GMT

Ishant Sharma started the agro and so I dont think he was penalised enough - now a days ICC finds it very difficult to take action against Indian players! I am sure everyone remembers the incidents during the India/ England match few weeks ago,where there was lots of bad behavior from a bunch of Indian players(including my very cool MS Dhoni)
As for Kamran Akmal he should have simply notified the umpire and not reacted.
Lets hope for more close and fighting matches to follow and lets play like gentlemen.

AH_USA
on December 27, 2012, 17:42 GMT

@Vaibhav Yadav,
Interesting logic that overall performance does not matter and only selective performances is all that matters. So, Pakistan's much better show in the ODIs and Tests played against India "to-date" has no significance but the latter's performance in WC is what matters.

CriCutter
on December 27, 2012, 17:38 GMT

For Ishant, the arrogance does not match the bowling skills... at all.
And for Akmal.. concentrate on your batting and make some runs.

Faridmalek
on December 27, 2012, 16:06 GMT

These are tactics to throw batsmen off it has used previous by irfan Pathan against afridi and also akhtar vs tendulkar afriidi vs gambir and so on.. Nothing wrong with thAt at all.+ it creates little drama

on December 27, 2012, 11:10 GMT

Ishant was clearly frustrated, he was brought into attack by dhoni to take wicket and both batsmen were playing well at that time. he initially tried to come in the way of hafeez who was taking a run but that ended quietly. these are all part and parcels of the game but during such a high profile series and being quite a senior members of both the teams they should have acted responsibly. More responsibility lies on Ishant who initiated but i was disappointed to see that dhoni did not act and could have prevented this to go on. Kamran played in the hands of Ishant and he was not focusing on the situation after that incident and i consider ishant was successfull in that. Kamran should act more responsibly and focus on the requirement on the match situation. it will be interesting to see in the next match how umer akmal will react to that coz he is known to act agressively when someone comes in the way of his elder brother doesnt matter even if it is his own team mate. good luck Pakistan

on December 27, 2012, 10:57 GMT

i must appericiate ,Sandy banglore,always in his posts ,is he honest. BUt one thing is sure ,ckt. has no place for these kind of brats , who bring ill sprit in game ,Hashim Amla is best eg, how player should behave in field. This ishant buddy should conc. On his game ,and this akmal guy on his wkt. keeping ,did he forget that fateful day of SYDENY TEST, were he dropped 15 catchs and also drop that winning test for pak,..

on December 27, 2012, 12:26 GMT

I enjoyed the clash. I enjoyed the entire match. It was like the days of old where India were cruising only to collapse in a heap towards the end, and Pakistan were down and out at the start and grabbed victory from the jaws of defeat. Yes, this did boil over but in the heat of the moment, incidents like these as long as they don't break out into a fight only add character and spice to intense and dramatic games, and these types of confrontations shouldn't be discouraged. I believe the fines imposed were fair and relevant to the laws of the game in place, but marquee series should have the spice and flair and shouldn't be actively discouraged. If such confrontations were outlawed, marquee series like India-Pakistan, even Ashes series, would be duller and nowhere near as entertaining.

Play hard, play fair. That is the 'Spirit of Cricket' after all.

on December 26, 2012, 16:13 GMT

Not needed at all, the match fines that is. The administrators have to allow a little room for these little things. We can't let cricket be a meek, gentle sport where all that the players are doing is patting the backs of their opposition, and we certainly cannot let a high-intensity clash such as Ind-Pk be a friendly one. We have enough of the back-patting stuff in the IPL itself. Int'l cricket is serious business and the odd show of anger in a heated moment is only understandable. This is not to say that I'm against cricket being played in it's customary gentlemanly sort of way but these are times when every field of work demands professionalism, demands excellence. And an odd duel is bound to happen in such a case.

Clashes on the sporting field, as long as they're within a certain limit, only add to the character of the game. These are what give followers memories and instances to remember and hold upon. Don't we talk of the Prasad-Sohail duel even some 16 yrs. after it took place

on December 28, 2012, 10:58 GMT

in the heat of the moment ...and stress ...incidents like these can appear on screen LIVE!!..they have in past ...now ...and i am excepting the same in up-coming matches as well...this also adds spice and media hype...so what ..ENJOY! ;)

on December 27, 2012, 21:57 GMT

Cricket was always known as "A Gentleman's Game" There is absolutely no excuse for those foolishness. Batsmen should vent their frustration by attacking the bowler whilst keeping their wicket intact.Similarly the bowler can use the short ball to send a message. Not these stupid "want to fight attitude" THEY RIGHTLY DESERVED TO BE FINED

on December 27, 2012, 20:00 GMT

Ishant Sharma started the agro and so I dont think he was penalised enough - now a days ICC finds it very difficult to take action against Indian players! I am sure everyone remembers the incidents during the India/ England match few weeks ago,where there was lots of bad behavior from a bunch of Indian players(including my very cool MS Dhoni)
As for Kamran Akmal he should have simply notified the umpire and not reacted.
Lets hope for more close and fighting matches to follow and lets play like gentlemen.

AH_USA
on December 27, 2012, 17:42 GMT

@Vaibhav Yadav,
Interesting logic that overall performance does not matter and only selective performances is all that matters. So, Pakistan's much better show in the ODIs and Tests played against India "to-date" has no significance but the latter's performance in WC is what matters.

CriCutter
on December 27, 2012, 17:38 GMT

For Ishant, the arrogance does not match the bowling skills... at all.
And for Akmal.. concentrate on your batting and make some runs.

Faridmalek
on December 27, 2012, 16:06 GMT

These are tactics to throw batsmen off it has used previous by irfan Pathan against afridi and also akhtar vs tendulkar afriidi vs gambir and so on.. Nothing wrong with thAt at all.+ it creates little drama

on December 27, 2012, 11:10 GMT

Ishant was clearly frustrated, he was brought into attack by dhoni to take wicket and both batsmen were playing well at that time. he initially tried to come in the way of hafeez who was taking a run but that ended quietly. these are all part and parcels of the game but during such a high profile series and being quite a senior members of both the teams they should have acted responsibly. More responsibility lies on Ishant who initiated but i was disappointed to see that dhoni did not act and could have prevented this to go on. Kamran played in the hands of Ishant and he was not focusing on the situation after that incident and i consider ishant was successfull in that. Kamran should act more responsibly and focus on the requirement on the match situation. it will be interesting to see in the next match how umer akmal will react to that coz he is known to act agressively when someone comes in the way of his elder brother doesnt matter even if it is his own team mate. good luck Pakistan

on December 27, 2012, 10:57 GMT

i must appericiate ,Sandy banglore,always in his posts ,is he honest. BUt one thing is sure ,ckt. has no place for these kind of brats , who bring ill sprit in game ,Hashim Amla is best eg, how player should behave in field. This ishant buddy should conc. On his game ,and this akmal guy on his wkt. keeping ,did he forget that fateful day of SYDENY TEST, were he dropped 15 catchs and also drop that winning test for pak,..

on December 27, 2012, 9:51 GMT

Almost ruined the fully spirited game, such a beautiful match and without reasons Ishant Sharma was worse, now with the new generation players we shouldn't have such rivalry, the best thing is that Pakistan should play in the next IPL..........and the players get a chance to be friendly with each other I suppose..............thx.

Gregg22
on December 27, 2012, 9:41 GMT

I don't agree with anshuman. Also don't understand why this qualifies as the so called "featured comment". Well written as it may be it seems to be encouraging poor sportsmanship and bad behaviour in general. I for one have no issues with the occasional sledge, getting into your opposision's mind or what have you. There just needs to be a line. That line was clearly crossed when ishant(mostly) started acting like a brat. This is professional cricket as anshuman rightly states, so why act like hormonal school boys?

baburao_indian
on December 27, 2012, 8:47 GMT

Heated moments in a cricket field always adds up extra quotient of competitiveness and excitement, and if it is ind vs pak, these things are inevitable. Its a part of the game, however ishant's exaggeration was not cool. Remember how irfan pathan used to tease Mo. yusuf in unnoticeable manner with his inswingers in his follow through, that's how it should be done. Friendly encounters like the one where we saw afridi pretending to throw the ball on yuvraj in this very match are more likable. This was not cool even for a hardcore on-field argument lover.

on December 27, 2012, 7:28 GMT

@AH_USA first of all ofcourse i have stuck to that stat because in the end that's what matters i won't mind my team not performing great unless they give their best where it matters and that is the WC and why your team could never achieve no. 1 TEST ranking I guess again our team performed best for a period of 18 months continuously.And every team passes through a bad phase and there are no points for guessing that INDIAN team is passing through it now as all the greats have retired but please take a look at http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-pakistan-2012/content/story/232386.html and then see which has been the better team since last 10-12 years which shows that India has improved and performed better than pak as time passed.

@ nabeel89 actually the most irritating comments i feel are like yours which i don't even feel like replying with a counter comment because when you can't do something by your own lets put the gun on someone else shoulder.I will surely jog on.

on December 27, 2012, 7:03 GMT

This is a gentleman's game, Ishant the agressor has been punished and right fully Kamran also, its easy to walk away from a clown, but when you are involved then you gotta be punished......Indian fans and cricketers must realise they have initiated a tour in which all odds are set against Pakistan,,,,give them a fair series atleast...good luck to both teams!

on December 27, 2012, 6:59 GMT

sandy_bangalore , Being a peace lover & Proud citizen of Pakistan, i am your FAN and all of us must follow your foot prints should we want peace and justice to prevail. Great thoughts indeed. see what the game of cricket has to be the winner at the end of the day and the people like you can bridge the gap i am confident.

i personally believe that Kamran should have been reprimanded as he argued with Ishant unnecessarily, as majority of the pace bowlers always attempt sledging to frustrate the batsman and Ishant undoubetly got hold of Kamran and that could have cost game to the visitors so that was terrific idea on Ishant's part.

importantly its India-Pakistan game so its all about nerves and one who remains CALM so hats off to India and their people in particular for such fabulous hospitality and welcome to Team Pakistan and lets hope that we can come closer to each other with honesty and open arms.

God bless.

on December 27, 2012, 6:53 GMT

@drnaveed, in that over in which ishant got in hafeezs way,it was very obvious that ishant WAS trying to get out of the way, something which even the commentators said. the problem was that hafeez was movig in the same direction as ishant with the end result that both of them were still in each others way.

the incident between ishant and kamran though was quite uncalled for, and really spoiled what was otherwise quite a positive match, where there was complete lack of hostility between the teams. hafeez gave ishant a pat after he bumped into him, suresh raina trying to break up the fight, kohli patting kamran i think it was after kamran got out. it was all done in very good spirit and the it was sad that the ishant/kamran incident left a very bad taste in the mouth.

on December 27, 2012, 6:00 GMT

lol. its so funny to see many indians putting this completely on kamran rather than Ishant.! and referring to the rules and regulations! .. dude, just learn cricket!. you are not the only people who know the rules. I think the fines for both the players is correct. But Ishant should have been fined 30% and kamran 15%. that would have been better!... but one thing is that Ishant and Kami should passion for the game and the country! Wonderful

PkRules
on December 27, 2012, 5:53 GMT

Let's forget what happened and move on guys. There are things that happen in the adrenaline rush, which people regret later on. Cricketers should learn to let their bat or ball speak. Overall, people commenting should remember that this is a good faith series and we should keep it this way. I understand that there are some people on both sides who just can't tolerate each other, but there are many like sandy_bangalore who are very nice people. End of the day we are all human beings first and then Indians or Pakistanis.
Let's keep the good spirit alive.

JINNAH0001
on December 27, 2012, 5:43 GMT

the 'royal rumble' scores were ishant's 3-1 kamran...... so the fine is of ratio 3:1 ....... looks like icc have seen the video many times before imposing charges
'first time true justice'

sweetspot
on December 27, 2012, 5:03 GMT

Not sure what the fuss was all about anyway. Most surprising to see two of the coolest, smiling cricketers losing it like that. Neither Kamran or Ishant should get away without a fine, but very surprising to see these two specifically getting into something like this. I can totally understand Kohli or Afridi going at each other, but I suppose all that is in the past. We haven't seen ANY friction of late, other than this incident, so let's forget about it and enjoy the game, please!

sandy_bangalore
on December 27, 2012, 5:01 GMT

And its an ABSOLUETLY JOKE that the overrated, overhyped IShant sharma, who is living off one dream spell in 2008, is fined a mere 20 pc. He initiated the whole fight, and then went to akmal to eyeball him and continue the slanging match. ANd after he took the catch, there were more abuses from him. That, unfortuantely for all us INDIAN fans, is the mordern Indian cricketer. Reputation made on flat tracks, or one bowling performance a year, and loads and loads of riches completely disproportional to the talent they possess. ANd humbleness and respect for the game are unheard of for these guys! The only reason why i support this current lot is because playesr like Tendulkar and Dravid represented them once with such class, both with the bat and off the field!

sandy_bangalore
on December 27, 2012, 4:56 GMT

I am sorry to say this, but as INDIANs, me and my many friends who were watching the match were embarrassed at the behaviour of the Gambhir and Ishant. These two have very few fans even in India(despite their hefty IPL price tags) due to their staggering arrogance and disrespect. ANd the BEST thing was in the various news analysis after the match, Bhogle,gavaskar and Manjrekar completely agreed that it was a clear no-ball. And these people have decades of expertise, compared to some of the keyboard warriors! The INDIAN team better pick up the on the behaviour front, else they might retire with all the money in the world, and runs(made on flat pitches), but no one will remember they remember Tendulkar and Dravid.

mshyder
on December 27, 2012, 4:47 GMT

I think we all should concentrate on the positive sides of the series. If at all the comments should only relate to the incident mentioned in this article instead of commenting on irrelevant issues and my team / players are better than yours contest. However I think the match referee was very lenient with Ishant, as he was sure that Ishant initiated the incident he should have fined Ishant heavily. Thus setting a no tolerance example so that no such incident happens in future and the series is played in better spirits.

dan1231
on December 27, 2012, 4:43 GMT

India v Pakistan, always have a few incidents, why not?

Alok505
on December 27, 2012, 4:33 GMT

what about afridi reacting to Yuvraj after the later hit a six . he was in crease & afridi horrified him . he should be fined ...is not iCC

wakaPAK
on December 27, 2012, 3:49 GMT

The moral highs of the game were quite a few; Virat Kohli giving Kamran a friendly pat after that incident was one such incident and before that Pakistani skipper giving Ishant a pat after he bumped into him or they bumped into each other; if it wasnt Hafeez there would have been trouble and the way the new kid behaved on the field was awesome even after defeat I saw it, his was the genuine congratulation. Low of the match is of course this incident but I'd say these things happen and I said it in another discussion too that Ishant can not sledge and he can not intimidate a batsman, that funny sound comes out of his vocals which may irritate you but won't intimidate you and Ishant wasn't sledging either because after he caught Kamran he was animated even then which tells us he had taken it personally. Sledging is just a ploy to take out a batsman; after he's out there's no point in trash talking; which shows Kamran also got under his skin.

KiwiRocker-
on December 27, 2012, 2:33 GMT

This is a decent decision by Mahanama, who is an excellent referee.In fairness, media reports suggest that I.Sharma later apologoized so its all done and dusted. I must point out that India's so called younger generation of cricketers such as Kohli,, Gambhir, Sharma, Suresh Raina and the likes are rather arrogant and seem to have a brash approach towards the game. It is all good to act like that if you are McGrath, Steyn, Wasim Akram or an Imran Khan but these players are nothing special.Likes of Raina and Sharma are an utter failure while Gambhir should not even be in team.Kohli is proming young batsman but he is got a lot to prove.These players should look towards players like Dravid, Laxman, Ganguly or even likes of Sangakara and Inzemam.They seem to have been learning from likes of Tendulya and Sehwag who were always keen to show negative emotions ( Tendulya using abusing language towards Saqlain Mushtaq) and Sehwag disrespecting B'desh.It is a game and not a war!VaibhavY@Do't cry!

Happy_AusBang
on December 27, 2012, 2:14 GMT

It is good that they took swift action. A game should not be allowed to degenerate is this way. They should also have looked at Gambhir arguing with the umpire for not giving a wide. Watching the footage one can see that Gambhir had moved away to the off and that was probably the reason umpire did not call it a wide; regardless he should not be arguing the decision with the umipre.

on December 27, 2012, 1:58 GMT

what is ishant thinking there u have respect the opposition u know the people that r watching dont know much about india except 11 players plzzzzzzzzzz take pride in representing india dude

AH_USA
on December 27, 2012, 1:30 GMT

@Vaibhav Yadav,
"...And if really indian bowling line up is that bad why did your team can never beat india in wc against this attack wonder how bad your batting is..."

Well, it is true that PAK has never beaten IND in a WC match but you seem to have stuck on that statistic. Lets take a look at the over ODI staitstic, shall we:
ODIs: Pakistan (69-48-4)

And if you like Test cricket then you will also appreciate PAK's performance in Tests against IND:
Tests: Pakistan (12-9-37)

on December 27, 2012, 1:25 GMT

Every one, including the authorities are over reacting. It is like any other normal international game. The Match referee makes it look like a game between two countries at war; which is not the case. To the contrary, both are trying their best to bury the hatchets and move on like brothers -- which is the case.Umpire Ravi's denying a wicket, for height, is also a case of over reacting, though technically within the rules. I have lost count of the number of times Sehwag got out for balls above head high, in his attempt to uppercut or pull. I have seen Sachin also getting out to balls above head high. Hey guys; all of you, including officials, cool it!

sabeeh89
on December 27, 2012, 1:25 GMT

As a Pakistani fan, I am shocked. Punishment should have been more severe for both parties. I was expecting 100%. These guys are professionals and adults, they should behave like such. If two kids get into an argument you would punish them more.

AH_USA
on December 27, 2012, 1:23 GMT

@Vaibhav Yadav,
You may want to Just look at the link below and you will find a summary of cricket matches played between PAK and IND.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India%E2%80%93Pakistan_cricket_rivalry

nabeel89
on December 26, 2012, 23:14 GMT

@vaibhav Yadav where were your so called great indian batsmen when they were getting absolutely thrashed by Australia then in England and came back home all mouthing off and got absolutely humiliated by England on the HOME soil. so jog on buddy!

ukapadia
on December 26, 2012, 23:02 GMT

it could have come from anyone but ishant... specially when he gets a game after 3 years... he gotta do better.

the decision of no ball was not of kamran or anyone else but the umpires. lets keep it simple... better team won the first game and better team ll win the remaining games :-) lets keep the spirit alive.

on December 26, 2012, 21:32 GMT

@mohammad zabin and if blow some sand you will find may batsman like kamran with better technique and guranted a better keeper :D

TendulkarDgr8
on December 26, 2012, 21:25 GMT

I think the fans and the ICC is over reacting for a non-incident... Common guys, this is an international game and both Ishanth and Kamran Akmal are big boys... Such altercation is only natural and as a viewer i thought both were within their limit... Infact the real issue was when Gautam Gambir argued with the umpire for not giving a wide.. Why was that incident ignored??

theRule19
on December 26, 2012, 21:09 GMT

@Ahmed Ali Abbasi..hahah!! u must be joking when you say stuff about Afridi..On the other hand..the Pakistanis should look out the day when Yuvraj or anyone else from the Indian team looses their cool..Just remember the Pakistan team is in India to play cricket and not fight.

tanveersyed110
on December 26, 2012, 20:53 GMT

Be careful Pakistani crickters and avoid such arguments with Indian Crickters in next matches.That was deliberately attempt by Ishant to irritate Kamran Akmal to make foolish short which Kamran did very next ball.Both teams should be focused on game in true game spirit in such a high profile series after 5 years.

on December 26, 2012, 20:46 GMT

@madhukardevoor: I agree, you pick up a rock in Pakistan and you'll find 10 Ishant Sharma's just waiting to be picked for the team.....they'll be quicker though :)

on December 26, 2012, 20:46 GMT

@Ahmed ali abbasi seriously bro kohli a kiddo!!!!
One of the best current ODI batsman even your best bowler declared him currently best batsman in the world and that i f he wanted his wicket.ICC ODI cricketer of the year so early in his carrier or have you forgotten the beating of 183* against your team.If such a guy is kiddo dude than i guess most of your players are new born babies :D

Behind_the_Wicket
on December 26, 2012, 20:39 GMT

Mostly indians are saying it was not " NO BALL " & "ISHANT" was right. I think all three or four umpires were from India. Both field umpires S Ravi and C Shamsuddin ,TV umpire VA Kulkarni & Reserve umpire K Srinath.What you think they don't know about ICC Rules if they don't know then why you appointed them and about Roshan Mahanama he is not doing this job for 1st time so show your sportsmanship don't start blame game.

SpartaArmy
on December 26, 2012, 20:11 GMT

"High Profile" ?? - you gotta be kidding me. Not even umpires on the field really cares when less than mediocre team like India is involved in a series, they got no spine in their attack.

on December 26, 2012, 19:52 GMT

@ maythe bestwin...now you need to get your facts right because first of all there were two sixes one from sehwag and one from from sachin and in the end every player is bound to get out in a match but have you forgotten 98 runs off 75 balls that sachin scored before he got out that resulted in indian victory or have you forgotten all about the unbeaten indian team in wc against pak where does your so called bowling attack goes than :D
Secondly,you better watch yourself because no matter what you think ganguly was a great batsman for us.Every player has weakness and bouncer was his no shame but what matters is he still fought and still best ODI left hander till now stats says it all.As far as facing akhtar and akram is concerned go watch gangully's 141(144) vs pak on a bouncy pitch of adelaid and you will know all what a player he was.
And if really indian bowling line up is that bad why did your team can never beat india in wc against this attack wonder how bad your batting is

on December 26, 2012, 19:39 GMT

That's was reall fun, and that's y we are so crazy and passionate about this game, it really ignites the team to try for their best! though bit negative

on December 26, 2012, 19:38 GMT

Well well well the drama just started that was just a trailer of full action packed film there is lot to come ,poor Indian ballers after taking 3 quick wickets could not survive the game
Surprisingly why MS is always short of ballers ?

EngineerKhan
on December 26, 2012, 19:24 GMT

Its sad to see Ishant doing this...he used to be such a nice guy

on December 26, 2012, 19:15 GMT

Deep Biswas on (December 26 2012, 17:12 PM GMT)
"Why it is like only Pakistani players are always involved in controversies?"

@ Deep Biswas, what sort of childish and stupid statement is that. Either you are just one of those over the hill burnout Indian supporters who doesn't follow international cricket or a mere cry baby sore loser. Regardless, a mental state resulting from losing consecutively :P

on December 26, 2012, 19:09 GMT

Indians are always like this sreesanth who started this with great inzi once and ricky ponting they are child and what kamran did was right, the indians think what they are doing no one can stop them and no one can reply they should remain in there limits

hhillbumper
on December 26, 2012, 19:06 GMT

Ishant Sharma is a useless bowler who seems to get picked for his petulance. He is an over rated non entity

Desihungama
on December 26, 2012, 19:05 GMT

Common guys, you can;t be serious in asking why Kamran was fined though he didn't initiate? Western norms are different of Easterner's. In our part of the region, victim can take equal measures to an abuse and not held liable. Not in West. Kamran was fined because he "Responded" and that my friend is a breach. And who is Ishant Sharma? Is he just a tall bowler or is he a bowler?

on December 26, 2012, 18:46 GMT

Haha! That was all good fun.Indians should be careful though, the day Afridi looses his temper will certainly spell doom for kiddos like Ishant and Kohli.O yaar! Sab choro...Muhammad Irfan ne to waisay hi chuk dena hai.

Anwaruzz
on December 26, 2012, 18:26 GMT

Ishant this Ishant that Kamran likewise !! Both should have been fined their full match fee. They should remember this is a friendship build-up series between their countries and should have had some sense in them. We as viewers enjoyed the drama in between the tight match. Hope to see more with some more dramas but surely praying both the Boards don't take it to their heart.

jawadjni
on December 26, 2012, 18:15 GMT

they both deserve it! regardless who had initiated, such actions are not tolerable!

ImpartialExpert
on December 26, 2012, 18:14 GMT

I am totally disappointed with Ishant. These players are supposed to set an example. People with really think that Indians and Pakistanis are sworn enemies if they behave like this.

may_the_best_win
on December 26, 2012, 18:05 GMT

@vaibhav yadav: come on bro, dnt compare gud for nuthing Ishant to akhtar!!! btw there were no SIXES, it was only 1 six and akhtar did take sachin's wicket in the end then as well... n batsmen were not afraid of akhtar?? hahah.. go n watch videos of ganguly facing akhtar n jest observe expressions on ganguly's face!! ishant is not even gud enough to b selected in the indian line up consistently which is considered to be the weekest bowling line up among the established teams and u r comparing him to a bowler who kept waqar younis out of the team!!

on December 26, 2012, 17:58 GMT

Lovely contest but keep it down boys....Perhaps they have forgotten but you all are continuing it here.
Yes IS started it some time Shahid Afridi does initiate too....Aussies always initiate a sledging episode, we are minnows in this matter.

Bota
on December 26, 2012, 17:57 GMT

Have to feel for poor Ishant. He completely misses the "fast-bowler-bite" like Waseem, Waqar or Akhtar had... was so funny to watch what he was doing :D
A victory is the best revenge... never forget it!

getsetgopk
on December 26, 2012, 17:57 GMT

@Nadeem1976: I think the words your looking for are 'Thanks Ishant for making a fool of yourself'. Reason being, it was Kumar who bowled better and Ishant doing the talking! People who cant bowl shouldn't be blowing that much hot air. Try using some sense for your comments the next time you bother yourself.

on December 26, 2012, 17:51 GMT

ICC has already given their decision and it favors Kamran Akmal more than Ishant. End of story. Ishant should have fined more on Hafeez's incident. Although I agree Kamran responded childishly.

on December 26, 2012, 17:38 GMT

He will see you Ishant in the next match!

on December 26, 2012, 17:36 GMT

@GETSETGOPK actually your argument of no one is scared of ishant is a bit funny...do you really think any batsman in the world is afraid of any opposition bowler when he sledges him now a days or from the past 10 years.come on get over yourself because no one was scared of akhtar either if that's what you are saying have you forgotten 2003 WC match when sledging was replied by uppercut sixes over third man :D so please make some sense

on December 26, 2012, 17:33 GMT

Ishant could not hv patience as Kamran pointed out the no-ball 15% OK.
But Kamran should have been warned only. Remeber all what did Zidan do
to that dude of Italy in FIFA 2006! He was a human being! But cricket is
not a soccer game...such things should not happen in a game like cricket.

on December 26, 2012, 17:28 GMT

What i don't understand is many pakistani fans claiming cricket to be a gentleman game..when was it when akhtar used to abuse it was a gentlemen's game back then or when afridi stuck his elbow to gambhir with some his elbow followed by some sweet words it was a gentlemen's game back then.??I am not going against afridi for that moment or ishant for now i am just asking you not to be hypocrites because I am sure every pakistani fan would have backed afridi now so stop being saints now because no one is a saint when it comes to a IND-PAK contest.

on December 26, 2012, 17:25 GMT

Honestly who cares how much they were fined and who started it. I thought it was fun, no one got hurt and their little episode added to the Drama that is Pakistan vs India. I'd love to see another equally contested match.

drnaveed
on December 26, 2012, 17:25 GMT

yes, why kamran akmal was fined ?.had ishant sharma not initiated the event,it would not have been taken place in the first place . and , what about ishant sharma cearly and deliberately tried to come in the way of the batsman mohammad hafeez, why he was not penalized for that, was the match referee sleeping along with the 2 umpires ????????????, or perhaps no Pakistani player did it , otherwise the whole world would have noticed it, especially the icc............. isn't so .

Malti65
on December 26, 2012, 17:23 GMT

All this fuss about fine has happened only because the organisers are handling this series extra-sensitively. Also Kamran over-reacted to something that was Ishant's right. In the words of Merve Hughs the great Australian fast bowler, sledging and getting in the face and ear of a batsman is the right of a bowler. More-over it is perfectly legal. According to me Ishant was well within his rights in giving Kamran a earful. Now Kamran's reaction was ammaturish. He should have just turned his face the other way and ignored like any seasoned batsman, take a look at Dravid, Tendulkar etc. Ofcouse he is not. But the fact that Kamran got involved with Ishant and lost his wicket, shows that Kamran lost the battle & Ishant won. Bowlers all over the world do it. If at all Ishant may have over-done it. Had Ishant bakcked off after Kamran started reacting, he would have still got Kamran's wicket & woudn't be fined either.

on December 26, 2012, 17:23 GMT

kamran is fined bec he responded, just bec he was not the initiator does not mean you can say or do anything in return, he pleaded guilty, end of that, why did stupid ishant questioned the fine? He played all over the world, not a single time he said a word when Aussies and Saffas and English bashed him arnd, come Pakistan he has some bravery now.

Chetan007
on December 26, 2012, 17:20 GMT

I don't understand why everybody saying that Ishant has initiated this. Last ball when Malik was caught. It was upto the umpires who should have called. The same type incident happened in the 1st IPL when it completely based upon ICC rules, Ganguly has appealed for review for the catch taken by G. Smith against Rajasthan Royals. The appeal was expected but latter after the match it was clearly clarified that no such incident should happen in the future. If someone has to appeal after umpire has given him out should ask from opposition captain. Yesterday match, after being caught Malik was going but Kamran has asked umpire to review their decision which is against ICC rules. If umpires themselves want to review than only they can do so. So, according to ICC rules, Kamran should have fined around 70%-80% of his match fee. For the next ball, Ishant should be fined for 10%-25% of his match fee and around 10%-20% for Kamran.I had given only one instant. I remember more than 7 such instants.

madhukardevoor
on December 26, 2012, 17:18 GMT

It's a mistake of ishant sharma hence india lost the match. god always with justice. india lost becoz of ishant sharma. he is a learning bowler pakistan has got 100s of bowlers like him. in next match he ll be hammered for sure

ProdigyA
on December 26, 2012, 17:12 GMT

It funny that Katmal is always involved no matter who the opposition. He should be banned for a match or two to knock some sense into his head.

on December 26, 2012, 17:12 GMT

Why it is like only Pakistani players are always involved in controversies?

1_234
on December 26, 2012, 16:52 GMT

that means a player who wants other person to be punished can initiate an incident?

Nadeem1976
on December 26, 2012, 16:45 GMT

I don't understand what is wrong with ICC. This is actually the spirit of cricket. Being natural, having passion and trying to be aggressive. ICC please don't make this game so boring. Thanks Ishant for showing passion.

Omarrz
on December 26, 2012, 16:39 GMT

I dont get this. Why Kamran has been fined? It was Ishant who initiated it. If Kamran had ignored him there wouldn't had been any altercation and hence the initiator would have gotten away, which wouldn't have been fair because no matter what initiator should get a punishment.

on December 26, 2012, 16:32 GMT

why was kamran fined? this is plain ridiculous..

on December 26, 2012, 16:25 GMT

That's Ind vs Pak..

Despite Fine's n Penalties.. Arguments used Take Place and will Always Take Place...

getsetgopk
on December 26, 2012, 16:16 GMT

The player that initiated this fuss should be the one reprimanded, Kamran was defending himself against uncalled for 'aggression'. Bowlers do that and I understand the batsmen needs to put their heads down at time and stick to their jobs but bowlers with some standing and substance to them should be doing this, such as Akhtar or Wasim for example as they can back it up with their ability to hit and damage the batsman, not someone like Ishant, nobody fears this dude LOL

a.roy20
on December 26, 2012, 16:15 GMT

Very nice. These days players try to act all tough by hurling abuses and expletives. This is not a gentlemen's game at all. If strict action needs to be taken to humble them, then so be it.
This will serve as a warning for people like Gambhir and Kohli.

gemind
on December 26, 2012, 16:09 GMT

well, green shirt players should show more patience, more tolerance and more maturity in this tour ... Indian Team is playing this one in its home ground, against its own home crowd, against their arch-rivals, so it is not unexpected from them to get tensed and hyper when the situation is not in their favor. Pakistan players should keep their nerves calm in every situation here and should try to capitalize any condition going in favor ...

Syed_imran_abbas
on December 26, 2012, 16:07 GMT

why is kamran fined? what did he do.. he didnt start this. it was clearly ishant.

yusuf97
on December 26, 2012, 16:06 GMT

i just want INDIA to win this series otherwise it will be a great embaressment

adillove
on December 26, 2012, 16:05 GMT

@Rehan Anis: In cricket on-field you can't say that who's fault was it because you can't stand them in court to ask who was total guilty so they just fine them so they don't do it again!

yusuf97
on December 26, 2012, 16:03 GMT

thats wat i like about INDIA-PAKISTAN matches. u will see everything happening ... from rivalry to friendship... all these verbal fights are always a part INDO-PAK matches... i

on December 26, 2012, 16:03 GMT

By initiating the argument in such a high profile game, he showed how frustrated he was and immature he is !!!

on December 26, 2012, 15:35 GMT

If all is Ishant fault then he should be banned for next match

on December 27, 2012, 12:26 GMT

I enjoyed the clash. I enjoyed the entire match. It was like the days of old where India were cruising only to collapse in a heap towards the end, and Pakistan were down and out at the start and grabbed victory from the jaws of defeat. Yes, this did boil over but in the heat of the moment, incidents like these as long as they don't break out into a fight only add character and spice to intense and dramatic games, and these types of confrontations shouldn't be discouraged. I believe the fines imposed were fair and relevant to the laws of the game in place, but marquee series should have the spice and flair and shouldn't be actively discouraged. If such confrontations were outlawed, marquee series like India-Pakistan, even Ashes series, would be duller and nowhere near as entertaining.

Play hard, play fair. That is the 'Spirit of Cricket' after all.

on December 26, 2012, 16:13 GMT

Not needed at all, the match fines that is. The administrators have to allow a little room for these little things. We can't let cricket be a meek, gentle sport where all that the players are doing is patting the backs of their opposition, and we certainly cannot let a high-intensity clash such as Ind-Pk be a friendly one. We have enough of the back-patting stuff in the IPL itself. Int'l cricket is serious business and the odd show of anger in a heated moment is only understandable. This is not to say that I'm against cricket being played in it's customary gentlemanly sort of way but these are times when every field of work demands professionalism, demands excellence. And an odd duel is bound to happen in such a case.

Clashes on the sporting field, as long as they're within a certain limit, only add to the character of the game. These are what give followers memories and instances to remember and hold upon. Don't we talk of the Prasad-Sohail duel even some 16 yrs. after it took place

on December 26, 2012, 15:35 GMT

If all is Ishant fault then he should be banned for next match

on December 26, 2012, 16:03 GMT

By initiating the argument in such a high profile game, he showed how frustrated he was and immature he is !!!

yusuf97
on December 26, 2012, 16:03 GMT

thats wat i like about INDIA-PAKISTAN matches. u will see everything happening ... from rivalry to friendship... all these verbal fights are always a part INDO-PAK matches... i

adillove
on December 26, 2012, 16:05 GMT

@Rehan Anis: In cricket on-field you can't say that who's fault was it because you can't stand them in court to ask who was total guilty so they just fine them so they don't do it again!

yusuf97
on December 26, 2012, 16:06 GMT

i just want INDIA to win this series otherwise it will be a great embaressment

Syed_imran_abbas
on December 26, 2012, 16:07 GMT

why is kamran fined? what did he do.. he didnt start this. it was clearly ishant.

gemind
on December 26, 2012, 16:09 GMT

well, green shirt players should show more patience, more tolerance and more maturity in this tour ... Indian Team is playing this one in its home ground, against its own home crowd, against their arch-rivals, so it is not unexpected from them to get tensed and hyper when the situation is not in their favor. Pakistan players should keep their nerves calm in every situation here and should try to capitalize any condition going in favor ...

a.roy20
on December 26, 2012, 16:15 GMT

Very nice. These days players try to act all tough by hurling abuses and expletives. This is not a gentlemen's game at all. If strict action needs to be taken to humble them, then so be it.
This will serve as a warning for people like Gambhir and Kohli.

getsetgopk
on December 26, 2012, 16:16 GMT

The player that initiated this fuss should be the one reprimanded, Kamran was defending himself against uncalled for 'aggression'. Bowlers do that and I understand the batsmen needs to put their heads down at time and stick to their jobs but bowlers with some standing and substance to them should be doing this, such as Akhtar or Wasim for example as they can back it up with their ability to hit and damage the batsman, not someone like Ishant, nobody fears this dude LOL

on December 26, 2012, 16:25 GMT

That's Ind vs Pak..

Despite Fine's n Penalties.. Arguments used Take Place and will Always Take Place...