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Friday, January 16, 2009

Breaking News: Defunct Minuteman Group Leader Claims She Was Shot This Morning!

Shawna Ford who says she is the "National Director of the Minutemen American Defense" group, claims she was shot last night. News reports say "Police were called just after 9:30 p.m. Thursday to an alley .. to reports of someone screaming and the sound of a single gunshot, Everett police Sgt. Robert Goetz said. A woman in the alley had what appeared to be a gunshot wound to the arm. She told them she was walking alone when shot."

This is the third report of violence connected to Shawna Forde in Everett since Dec. 22. That's when her estranged husband was shot at his home. Forde reported being beaten and raped there a week later by intruders. She has suggested the violence was somehow connected to her activism fighting crime, drugs and illegal immigration, but offered scant details.

Forde last week met with detectives to be interviewed on the sexual assault report. They asked her back to talk about her husband's shooting. Forde indicated she would talk to them, but had to reschedule and the meeting is pending. Everett Police this afternoon released a sketch of the suspect (appears to be a white male) provided by the victim. Investigators plan to interview her again Tuesday, Goetz said.

Forde and her husband moved into separate homes in July. In October, he filed for divorce. Forde's rape report triggered a blogosphere backlash, with speculation that the attack could be a hoax.Forde has dismissed questions as "politics," and labeled as "ridiculous" any suggestion that she may have somehow simulated her injuries reported in the Dec. 29 incident.

People are curious about this situation. Why does she draw so much attention to herself? Why does she say the crimes relate to her activities relating to illegal immigration? Why do the ANTI leaders dispute what she is saying?

All very interesting.Hence, I report on it.I also like to be the 1st to report late breaking news!!

Az,In this latest article, it says . for last nights gunshot wound, "The woman who was shot was taken to the hospital with what he described as non-life threatening injuries."

For the claimed rape, today's article says:"Her hospital discharge papers from that incident were posted earlier this week on Forde's Minuteman American Defense Web site. They show she was examined for a reported rape and was treated for a possible concussion and bruises."

"Forde last week met with detectives to be interviewed on the sexual assault report. They asked her back to talk about her husband's shooting. Forde indicated she would talk to them, but had to reschedule and the meeting is pending."

I think some might say she did not want to come back to talk about her husband's shooting. Some may say this sounds very, very fishy!

I find the story of interest due to psychology of those that want to bring National change. If this wommon (pc spelling) is a 'leader' for this movement, and she is found to be making up stories to get attention, it smashes the creditability of the movement.

Much like Neo-Nazis protesting in front of the Mexican Embassy in Nebraska.

Czech,I agree. I do not like automatically assuming.That is why I post the articles and what others are saying. Plus what she is telling the police and the newspapers.

I am curious about this case.I want to know why! If she is telling the truth, and the perp pictures she is providing the police is a white male, why is she blaming this on illegal immigration? (e.g. M13 charges, she said it has to do with work she is doing, etc.)

If she is NOT telling the truth as alipac and several other minutemen group are suggesting, then what is her motivation? Is it truly to seek her 15 minutes of fame? Or is it because she has a screw loose as they suggest?

She and the articles state she and her husband are estranged. He has said nothing, no word publicly, that this relates to illegal immigration. In fact, he has not gone to the newspaper at all. Neither for nor against her. Very curious and he was the one that was seriously shot and stayed in the hospital for some time due to his gunshots.

And why on earth would she post her own pictures of the attack in lewd poses on the internet? Very strange.

For now, the police are investigating and I am holding my opinion for now.

However, if these are truly false reports, this casts a negative slant on women and this is a slap in the face to all victims of rape and attacks. I will withhold stating my opinion until the police provide us the results.

We all know you have an ulterior motive by bringing up this woman's apparent unstable mind and incidents connected to her. You want to make it appear that all anti's are that way and we are not. Shameful!

We all know you have an ulterior motive by bringing up this woman's apparent unstable mind and incidents connected to her. You want to make it appear that all anti's are that way and we are not. Shameful!

As you probably know Schwilk and alipac and simcox are in a war against Gilchrist and Forde is with Gilchrist. I wrote about it last year when I started my "defunct MM" posts. These embarrassing articles on Forde sure is NOT helping the MM cause.

What I was referencing was the loons that insist the 2nd Amendment was crafted for them to own, possess and use anything from a pellet gun to a UZI and anything in between.

I am not anti gun, I simply do not see the need to permit unrestricted access and ownership of any weapon in the NATO arsenal.

And apparently, from the photos posted here http://immigrationclearinghouse.org/minutemen-loons-armed-vigilantes-on-our-border/ , our "brave heroes" of the MM, are equipped with enough firepower to start a small war.

One of my co-workers and I disagree as to whether or not there should be unrestricted access, or even a ban, on 'assault weapons'. I've been saying that it is a tricky argument in favor of 'assault weapons' ownership. I have one (an AKM-possibly two- I don't believe a SKS in an assault weapon) and it is fun to shoot. But I use it mostly in competitions. The cost of ammunition has made it prohibitive to use as a weekend plinker. For the weekends I have a bolt action .22 rifle that I believe is more fun (and cheaper) to shoot.

But the argument to ban 'assault weapons' is weak as well. After all, 'assault weapons' are used in less than 3% of ALL crimes committed with firearms.

But, I'm willing to come to some compromise.

But, in defense of some, the Second Amendment was intended to allow the citizens access to what at that time was the standard issue weapon of the armed forces (muskets). It was written about in the Federalist Papers and the memoirs of several framers of the constitution.

But I am not suggesting that Americans today should have unrestricted access to a M4 carbine with a three-round-burst....

(L) A semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General. In making the determination, there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any Federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.'.

This one scares me....That can literally be any firearm....

(E)(i) Except as provided in clause (ii), a semiautomatic rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.(ii) Clause (i) shall not apply to an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.

This would technically knock out .17HMR rifles/ammo, which is smaller and lighter than .22 LR.

(36) Barrel Shroud- The term `barrel shroud' means a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel of a firearm so that the shroud protects the user of the firearm from heat generated by the barrel, but does not include a slide that encloses the barrel, and does not include an extension of the stock along the bottom of the barrel which does not encircle or substantially encircle the barrel.

This is the equivilent to banning bumper stickers....

SEC. 6. REQUIRING BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR THE TRANSFER OF LAWFULLY POSSESSED SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPONS.Section 922(v) of title 18, United States Code, as added by section 2(a) of this Act, is amended by adding at the end the following:(5) It shall be unlawful for any person to transfer a semiautomatic assault weapon to which paragraph (1) does not apply, except through--(A) a licensed dealer, and for purposes of subsection (t) in the case of such a transfer, the weapon shall be considered to be transferred from the business inventory of the licensed dealer and the dealer shall be considered to be the transferor; or(B) a State or local law enforcement agency if the transfer is made in accordance with the procedures provided for in subsection (t) of this section and section 923(g).

Nobody is saying MM's have been convicted of anything. Skulking around in the night on the border in Arizona with possibly retrofitted automatic weapons, acting out their Rambo fantasies is cause enough for concern.

And were they to shoot anyone, you can be certain the crime would never see the light of day.

AZ. Collectors are one thing. Those that shoot in competition are another. Both can be considered trustworthy. And those who legally possess automatic weapons,machine guns and such go through a thorough licensing process.

My problem is with the availability of some weapons such as the AR-15 or any weapon that can be converted to full auto with basic knowledge available from the internet.

I have a problem with those who can go from gun shop to gun shop or gun shows buying in quantity (straw buyers) whose purchases eventually end up in Mexico to help arm the cartels.

And you are correct about the Second Amendment. The founding fathers, visionaries that they were, never could have imagined the world as it is today

I hardly see the MM looking through binoculars and reporting illegal entry to the BP and only carrying a weapon in self-defense (you know how dangerous those drug cartels are) as Rambo-like tactics. But of course those with an agenda to fill up this country with Mexicans and other illegal aliens would.

Anon,Obviously you are not reading what the MM are saying.Look at what Forde is saying.They are on the border with assault weapons (and beer) in the middle of the night.Party Time for the zealots!This is awful!!!

And I already explained why they have weapons. As far as the beer goes, there is no proof of them getting drunk on it or that they are even drinking beer while patroling. Face it, you hate anyone or anything that prevents illegal aliens from entering our country. You are so transparant you could call yourself cellophane.

Dee,To put some prospective on things, we used used to have a few beers the night before 'ied sweeps', which violates policy.

A bunch of Marines drinking before we pilot 4 ton vehicles and commanding the arsenal of the Marines Corps may scare some, but what else would you do before going on a mission that you may not return from.....

MMs should NOT be patrolling the border with weapons or with alcohol. Those madmen in pickup trucks should be put in jail where they belong!Reports on the web say Forde was kicked out by a few MM groups for her outlandish behavior. But you do reap what you sow. We will see what the future holds for her and for the MMs.

If what the MM were doing was wrong they would be arrested, wouldn't they? They have licenses to carry a gun and your assumption that they are a bunch of drunks running around flailiing weapons without a clear mind is a ridiculous assumption on your part. Like I said, your agenda is to make sure that no one stops your ethnic kind from entering our country illegally so you oppose anyone and anything that deters it. Just admit the truth for once in your life!!

Anon,Go google the complaints about Forde from her fellow MMs. She and a group of radicals who patrolled the border with assault weapons and alcohol were kicked out of one MM group for their tactics. Go look it up!These are the dangerous MMs I am talking about!Look it up!

The MM carried weapons for self-defense. They didn't carry them to shoot Mexicans just for the fun of it. To my knowledge they have never shot anyone. As far as drinking goes, Dee likes to imply that they were all stone cold drunk rather than perhaps an occasional beer. They might of had a beer when they were just in their camps off duty. They worked in shifts. It is nothing but Dee's attempt to demonize anyone who attempts to secure our boder. She has made her agenda quite clear long ago.

As far as Ford goes, the MM have denounced her. What better proof than to rid themselves of someone who was radical and gave them a bad name? I applaud them for doing that. Their are rotten apples in every barrel. You get rid of them before they spoil the rest of the barrel.

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In May, 2006, after the Immigration Marches, I started seeing the cable news channels talking very negatively about illegal immigration. I found many internet sites were talking negatively about legal and illegal immigration issues as well.
Since I do research on the job, I started conducting Immigration research on the web. I joined several Immigration websites and I researched others. I´ve learned so much about Immigration issues over the last year.
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