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It seems a huge stretch to think parts of the White House that never has a firewall between themselves and the president (unlike the FBI which has a tradition of it), is somehow leaking info to you that favors the president.

And this contradicts what I said, how?

Originally Posted by SG

...the point was to trick Nunes into thinking he was being given intel by leakers instead of by Trump

Yeah, and there are a lot of alt-right people in Congress. But still, a political deal to keep a POTUS out of jail seems to me to be something the POTUS must have respect in order to earn it. Who respects this guy? People like Pence and Ryan kiss his ass to get stuff, but respect? I don't see it.

Speaking of a different time, were you around during Nixon? There was a big issue of, how could we send a POTUS to jail. I sure don't see that now. Hell, they chanted "lock her up" at Trump's rallies. No respect there for sure.

Yeah, that's what surprises me - there is some actual stuff going down. It's gotten more and more likely as the information keeps leaking out, but during the campaign, as much as I hated Trump, it just seemed unlikely that they would have done something so stupid.

What's interesting to me are the previous connections between Russia/pro-Russian factions in Ukraine and Stone, Manafort, the whole Trump family, Flynn...etc.

It seems to me that those relationships are the means by which they stayed in contact with Russia throughout the election. We'll see. The more insane their behavior gets (Nunes) the more I'm inclined to believe they did something impeachable.

Well, perhaps, but the Republicans are currently in charge, and they don't seem eager to impeach.

Well, perhaps, but the Republicans are currently in charge, and they don't seem eager to impeach.

Despite Ol' Tape Tie's many questionable actions, if not full-on transgressions, there may not yet be anything to base impeachment on. And the House, fanatic as they largely are, will need something clearly ironclad before they risk their necks, especially in this political climate.

Furthermore, I would prefer saner heads in high places reserve mentioning the I-word until the time it's appropriate. Those opposed to Don Wan should consider how crying wolf can water down its potency and value*.

Yeah, and there are a lot of alt-right people in Congress. But still, a political deal to keep a POTUS out of jail seems to me to be something the POTUS must have respect in order to earn it. Who respects this guy? People like Pence and Ryan kiss his ass to get stuff, but respect? I don't see it.

Speaking of a different time, were you around during Nixon? There was a big issue of, how could we send a POTUS to jail. I sure don't see that now. Hell, they chanted "lock her up" at Trump's rallies. No respect there for sure.

I disagree with the highlighted. IMO there merely has to be less damage to the GOP in striking a political deal to keep a POTUS out of prison than there is in him going to prison.

In any case IMO it's never going to get anywhere near that far. Any investigation that starts to find tangible evidence will quickly be derailed by GOP committee members and sent off to investigate the Obama White House instead.

Obama administration officials were so concerned about what would happen to key classified documents related to the Russia probe once President Trump took office that they created a list of document serial numbers to give to senior members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, a former Obama official told NBC News.

A top U.S. general told Congress today it's "fair to assume" that Russia is providing support to the Taliban in Afghanistan.*

"I think it is fair to assume they may be providing some sort of support to [the Taliban], in terms of weapons or other things that may be there. I believe what Russia is ... attempting to be an influential party in this part of the world. ,” said four-star Gen. Joseph Votel, CENTCOM Commander.

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Expenditure on healthcarehttp://www.oecd.org/els/health-systems/health-data.htm
link is 2015 data (2013 Data below):
UK 8.5% of GDP of which 83.3% is public expenditure - 7.1% of GDP is public spending
US 16.4% of GDP of which 48.2% is public expenditure - 7.9% of GDP is public spending

The 1 March 2017 Times article held that “warning signs had been building throughout the summer,” and that “American intelligence began picking up conversations in which Russian officials were discussing contacts with Trump associates, and European allies were starting to pass along information about people close to Mr. Trump meeting with Russians in the Netherlands, Britain and other countries.” Farkas reiterated the gist of that article’s recounting of frantic efforts on the part of Washington insiders (current and former) to prevent a loss of intelligence about possible Russian election meddling:...

Nothing said or repeated by Evelyn Farkas on 2 March 2017 was novel or ostensibly more revealing than the New York Times article published just before her interview, and Farkas described the actions of Washington operatives (not President Obama) to preserve extant intelligence about Russian efforts to undermine the presidential election (not to spy on Donald Trump).

I do wonder if the President's fear of Muslims will trump his liking for Russia... or whether Russia has some hold over him

I think Russia and Trump are aligned on the Muslim thing.

Even if Russia is supporting the Taliban financially - which I find possible - it's in stark contrast to their overwhelming anti-Muslim attitude that has emerged after the Chechen Republic's secession attempt.

Russia is quite enthusiastic about depicting their police state a Muslim-proofed 'security'.

I disagree with the highlighted. IMO there merely has to be less damage to the GOP in striking a political deal to keep a POTUS out of prison than there is in him going to prison.

In any case IMO it's never going to get anywhere near that far. Any investigation that starts to find tangible evidence will quickly be derailed by GOP committee members and sent off to investigate the Obama White House instead.

Yep. Trump blamed the Democrats for the fact that the House couldn't pass AHCA.

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Ok, right. We've proven there was treason in the Trump campaign. Damn. Um...

Oh, I've got this: Well why didn't the Obama administration catch this treason? Did they look the other way? Were they complicit? THAT'S THE REAL CRIME! Lock Him Up!

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