Cleveland Cavaliers general manager Danny Ferry is close to parting ways with the franchise less than two weeks after the dismissal of coach Mike Brown, triggering a dramatic reshaping of the team’s brain trust as it desperately tries to retain LeBron James(notes), league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Granted it's sources saying this and Asst GM Grant would take over but where does this leave the Cavs?

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Better off, IMO. Ferry is replaceable. Just in the past year, my issues with Ferry are; making the Shaq deal one year too late, and putting too high a value on JJ Hickson, quashing any chance of getting Stoudamire from the Suns.

And yes, even though it isn't his fault that he wasn't an all-star player, I'm still pissed about the Cavs trading Ron Harper and TWO number one picks for him back in '89.

Ziner wrote:Now Lebron can pick the GM and Coach so we have that going for us.

Well not really. The Assistant GM is replacing him.

I took that as him replacing him for the time being, I would have to imagine they will be interviewing candidates for the GM job. You don't just hand this job to Chris Grant, especially if LeBron resigns.

Better off, IMO. Ferry is replaceable. Just in the past year, my issues with Ferry are; making the Shaq deal one year too late, and putting too high a value on JJ Hickson, quashing any chance of getting Stoudamire from the Suns.

And yes, even though it isn't his fault that he wasn't an all-star player, I'm still pissed about the Cavs trading Ron Harper and TWO number one picks for him back in '89.

I've read multiple times that this isn't the case. It was the Suns. That's what I thought anyway.

I'm probbaly overthinking this, but here's what I think this could mean.

Option One: Very good behind the scenes progress has been made in terms of Bron taking a lude and staying. Butt ths comes with even more power and control, including his own hand picked FO team and/or coach. Dan says to himself "freak this" not unlike Dwight Clark's reaction to Butch Davis grabbing personnel power and since life is too short, he hits the road of his own valition.

Option Two: Gilbert thinks Bron is gonzo and the long-rumored back room deal with Larry Brown coming into a part ownership + GM situation is going down now. I can't see ron and Brown co-existing. Brown actually thinks playesr should play and coaches should coach. That ain't workin' with LRMR.

What I don't think happens is bumping along status quo (duh).

If this is option II, I am intrigued if this means there will be a blow up and re-load situation or an impatient Gilbert will try to keep a post-Bron , low seed , meaningless playoff appearences Zombie Cavs stumbling along.

As much as Bron is getting on my nerves as a fan, I'm still pulling for Option One.

I wonder if Ferry was just being kept around to try to lure Coach K and yesterday's affirmation for Duke by Coach K results in this?

Listening to Rizzo and Reghi who agreed that based on the statement made by Ferry, it sounded like Gilbert wants to make a coaching move that Ferry disagreed with. At this point, its all speculation but wanted to pass it along.

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jack_tors wrote:Listening to Rizzo and Reghi who agreed that based on the statement made by Ferry, it sounded like Gilbert wants to make a coaching move that Ferry disagreed with. At this point, its all speculation but wanted to pass it along.

jack_tors wrote:Listening to Rizzo and Reghi who agreed that based on the statement made by Ferry, it sounded like Gilbert wants to make a coaching move that Ferry disagreed with. At this point, its all speculation but wanted to pass it along.

Isn't that the real obvious take though? Thats what I mean with Calipari. Everyone was saying if Calipari is hired then Ferry wont be the one who hires him....

Not saying that is correct, just that Rizzo and whoever are just spitballing with the rumormill material IMO.....

I'm probbaly overthinking this, but here's what I think this could mean.

Option One: Very good behind the scenes progress has been made in terms of Bron taking a lude and staying. Butt ths comes with even more power and control, including his own hand picked FO team and/or coach. Dan says to himself "freak this" not unlike Dwight Clark's reaction to Butch Davis grabbing personnel power and since life is too short, he hits the road of his own valition.

Option Two: Gilbert thinks Bron is gonzo and the long-rumored back room deal with Larry Brown coming into a part ownership + GM situation is going down now. I can't see ron and Brown co-existing. Brown actually thinks playesr should play and coaches should coach. That ain't workin' with LRMR.

What I don't think happens is bumping along status quo (duh).

If this is option II, I am intrigued if this means there will be a blow up and re-load situation or an impatient Gilbert will try to keep a post-Bron , low seed , meaningless playoff appearences Zombie Cavs stumbling along.

As much as Bron is getting on my nerves as a fan, I'm still pulling for Option One.

I wonder if Ferry was just being kept around to try to lure Coach K and yesterday's affirmation for Duke by Coach K results in this?

I'm probbaly overthinking this, but here's what I think this could mean.

Option One: Very good behind the scenes progress has been made in terms of Bron taking a lude and staying. Butt ths comes with even more power and control, including his own hand picked FO team and/or coach. Dan says to himself "freak this" not unlike Dwight Clark's reaction to Butch Davis grabbing personnel power and since life is too short, he hits the road of his own valition.

Option Two: Gilbert thinks Bron is gonzo and the long-rumored back room deal with Larry Brown coming into a part ownership + GM situation is going down now. I can't see ron and Brown co-existing. Brown actually thinks playesr should play and coaches should coach. That ain't workin' with LRMR.

What I don't think happens is bumping along status quo (duh).

If this is option II, I am intrigued if this means there will be a blow up and re-load situation or an impatient Gilbert will try to keep a post-Bron , low seed , meaningless playoff appearences Zombie Cavs stumbling along.

As much as Bron is getting on my nerves as a fan, I'm still pulling for Option One.

I wonder if Ferry was just being kept around to try to lure Coach K and yesterday's affirmation for Duke by Coach K results in this?

Izzo's a better coach than Calipari. Izzo can coach, all Calipari can do is recruit. Couldn't even make it to the Final 4 with 4 lottery picks while I can't even remember the last lottery pick that came from Michigan State (Z. Randolph maybe? J-Rich?).

Like in the case of the Mike Brown firing maybe this is more about LeBron than anything else. ESPN's Bill Simmons tweeted a little while ago: "Prediction for next few days: we'll learn that LeBron's camp was much more disenchanted with Ferry than anyone realized."

- I think this means that Gilbert is allowing LeBron to have more sway than Ferry would like and that Gilbert would hire LBJ's chosen coach if that's what it takes to keep him. Ferry would never go for that. Chris Grant, OTOH, doesn't have as much choice - he needs "GM" on his resume so he goes along with whatever Gilbert wants.

- I still hate the Larry Brown idea and don't understand why people want him here. The guy has been in the NBA for a million years and has one championship - and a whole lot of pissed off players - to show for it.

- If Tom Izzo coached anywhere other than Michigan State he wouldn't even be considered. But, just as sure as LeBron is a Yankee fan Dan Gilbert is an "everything Michigan" fan.

- The odds on Calipari being in the coach's chair come October sure went up today.

daddywags wrote:- I still hate the Larry Brown idea and don't understand why people want him here. The guy has been in the NBA for a million years and has one championship - and a whole lot of pissed off players - to show for it.

List the living, actibe coaches who have won NBA titles:

- Jackson- Popovich- Doc

and........?

now list those that might actually come here sans LBJ based on persistent rumors besides Brown.

jb wrote:Darrell Ruiter is reporting that the "interim" has been removed.

Is this an indicate that cost cutting may be coming with a Dolan model if Bron leaves?

That's not the option Gilbert prefers, I'll tell ya that. It smells to me like a player and a coach are going to have much more personnel power with a malleable GM and that Gilbert would rather sell to that devil than lose $100million of value from his franchise.

Gilbert is a different breed. He's smart and he's willing to make money even if it means selling a piece of his soul to do it. He's not going this route to clear the decks IMO.

Source: Chris Grant is Cavs GM in title only. Gilbert trying to clear way for big name to be prez of basketball operations & coach. #cavs

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Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

daddywags wrote:- I still hate the Larry Brown idea and don't understand why people want him here. The guy has been in the NBA for a million years and has one championship - and a whole lot of pissed off players - to show for it.

List the living, actibe coaches who have won NBA titles:

- Jackson- Popovich- Doc

and........?

now list those that might actually come here sans LBJ based on persistent rumors besides Brown.

(crickets' chirp)

That's why, my man.

Well, if that's the sole criteria then he's the only possible choice (Phil Jackson has won, what, something like 10 of the last 18 NBA titles; so that tends to shorten the list quite a bit I suppose). So, if that's where you're coming from I understand completely. (I don't agree, but I understand.)

I'm kinda on the fence. On one hand, he didn't deliver the sausage. On the other hand, when the organizational philosophy from on high is 'make the potential $100 million drop in franchise value happy,' then he's kinda stuck between a rock and the unemployment line.

As for talk of Wanderin' Larry, I refer back to Windy's Q&A from last Sunday where the question was answered in one line: 'Larry Brown is currently under contract to the Charlotte Bobcats.' There's no there there.

There was no mention of Tom Izzo, however.

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Especially with the latest news in the past 48 hours down at UK with the Bledsoe controversy about his eligibility this sets up Calipari to duck and run once again. At the very least I think Gilbert will gauge his interest.

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Remember the whole we've only got 3 years to win it before LeBron leaves crap, well we might be saying that exact same thing except with Larry Brown.

They can coexist, Larry knows talent, knows basketball. While he might be old school and not care if LeBron stays or goes and as you say believe in players playing/coaches coaching, but he isn't Alzheimer's old school. He would love to have a LeBron to coach.

LeBron will figure it out and realize he needs to concede some basketball mojo to somebody eventually, which will lead him to deal with this IMO. This is going to happen IMO, Larry Brown (in some capacity) and LeBron together in Cleveland.

The plus side of a Larry Brown signing if LeBron leaves is we have a nice foundation to start building the org post LBJ, even if he were to live upstairs.

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Ziner wrote:Windy just hinted at a fairly strong likelihood of a deal going down before the draft... one that includes a starter... interesting. Said it would involve a lottery pick... Brand and number 2?

You may be on to something...Who would you want at #2 assuming Wall goes to the Wizards???

Definition,Yinzer : A person who lives in a trailer off government money,drinks iron city beer,has limited intelligence,follows the Steelers, and refuses to accept the fact that their team is actually piss yellow and not gold.

Remember the whole we've only got 3 years to win it before LeBron leaves crap, well we might be saying that exact same thing except with Larry Brown.

They can coexist, Larry knows talent, knows basketball. While he might be old school and not care if LeBron stays or goes and as you say believe in players playing/coaches coaching, but he isn't Alzheimer's old school. He would love to have a LeBron to coach.

LeBron will figure it out and realize he needs to concede some basketball mojo to somebody eventually, which will lead him to deal with this IMO. This is going to happen IMO, Larry Brown (in some capacity) and LeBron together in Cleveland.

The plus side of a Larry Brown signing if LeBron leaves is we have a nice foundation to start building the org post LBJ, even if he were to live upstairs.

Larry Brown leaving Charlotte ain't happenin' Larry Brown loves Carolina and loves working for MJ. When he took the job he said it was his last job in college or pro.

Larry Brown leaving Charlotte ain't happenin' Larry Brown loves Carolina and loves working for MJ. When he took the job he said it was his last job in college or pro

Yes he enjoys Charlotte, loves MJ, but has hinted at never leaving a place before. Plus he had some interest in the Philly job due to his family. Bottom line is Larry Brown likes money like everybody else and also likes some control and is interested in a FO job with ownership possibilities, not to mention his long track record of picking up and leaving at a moments notice.

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Ziner wrote:Windy just hinted at a fairly strong likelihood of a deal going down before the draft... one that includes a starter... interesting. Said it would involve a lottery pick... Brand and number 2?

You may be on to something...Who would you want at #2 assuming Wall goes to the Wizards???

Worst case you have a good player to build around if bron leaves, keep the buckeye homers happy, best case you may give LeBron a young player to build up.

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Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

1. Ferry wanted to keep Mike Brown. Enough to cause to not let him in on the selection of the next coach.

2. Ferry wasn't working. 5 years and never built a team that could get further than his first one. The best GM's involve their star, but don't use it as an excuse once things don't work, and I believe he back channeled all of the local comments about giving LBJ what he wanted in player acquisitions.

Larry Brown leaving Charlotte ain't happenin' Larry Brown loves Carolina and loves working for MJ. When he took the job he said it was his last job in college or pro

Yes he enjoys Charlotte, loves MJ, but has hinted at never leaving a place before. Plus he had some interest in the Philly job due to his family. Bottom line is Larry Brown likes money like everybody else and also likes some control and is interested in a FO job with ownership possibilities, not to mention his long track record of picking up and leaving at a moments notice.

Larry Brown took his last coaching job when he took the Bobcats job. He was all set to retire and if not for the Bobcats being near his home and Carolina being close to his heart he wouldn't be coaching anywhere right now. Big pipe dream

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pup wrote:1. Ferry wanted to keep Mike Brown. Enough to cause to not let him in on the selection of the next coach.

2. Ferry wasn't working. 5 years and never built a team that could get further than his first one. The best GM's involve their star, but don't use it as an excuse once things don't work, and I believe he back channeled all of the local comments about giving LBJ what he wanted in player acquisitions.