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But it seems actual users online are generally entering erect, and holding the pump the full 15 minutes without breaks.

Is this just people mis using the device assuming more is better, or is there actually evidence suggesting this practice is not only safe, but superior?

Secondly, my dick is 6" even when erect. I enter the bathmate and pump it to the point that I feel as though my dick is going to explode if I go any further, and it's only about 5" long at this point. This is nowhere near the max possible pump. If you pump it to the max you can see like 2" of white plastic in the bellows, I'd say i'm pumping to a max of a half inch of that white plastic.

Am I being a pussy and just need to pump it until i'm a little over my erect length or what?

Well the product seems bogus to me. I don't believe for a second that "pumping" a 6" dick "up" to 5" is ever going to increase the length of the dick.

GLL claims that this thing is what you should use if you want "immediate gains", I call BS, unless he is talking about flaccid gains, which are the only gains that I see (for a short time, and it's not a gain at all, it just brings the dick up to the same level it is when you are like 60% erect) but anyway why the hell would I want to pay $300 just to temporarily give myself a chubby for a little while.

Hey there. When I first started with Bathmate I tried with the insert and without. I found eventually it to be better without the insert. So perhaps try that. Tho at first you may find it takes a few goes to get it right and you don't suck a nut in.

Secondly when I first started pumping I was 4 and a 1/4 inches on the scale (this was my fully erect size as well crap I know), 6 months later I am now sitting on the 5 and 1/2 inches mark regularly. Some days I am only on 5 and 1/4 (its not on great) and if I get it on perfectly I can get almost up to 5 and 3/4, I know I am growing.

The other thing I did was when it was on and fully pumped (generally 3 to 4 pumps and no more water coming out) I got a ruler and measured the markings compared to the ruler... They were spot on the same.... this also was without the insert in.

So you may need to let a little of your nut sack into the pump.... NOT YOUR NUTS just the sack... I find that if I don't let a little in it wont stretch to full potential and its uncomfortable. Hence you might only be getting 5 when your 6....

Also fully erect is not advised for the first few weeks none at all.... 75% to 80% I believe is ok for the next few weeks... After about 5 weeks you should be able to go in ALMOST fully erect.

ALSO seriously leave the insert out and using a ruler to measure it when it is pumped about 4 times (very little water comes out after that) you should find the markings are the same and you should find your penis is 6 inches in there now or close to it...

zaalim wrote: Regarding the little triangle groove on the bathmates rubber. Is that supposed to be on the bottom ( aka touching your nutsac) or is it supposed to compeltely the opposite( facing upwards)?

Thats the same side as the measuring guide right? The measuring guide goes to the top so you can see the size =-)

Also I wanted to make sure you guys know that sometimes no matter what you do you just have a bad day trying to get it on... it wont line up, the seal isnt quite right and air gets in, or a nut gets sucked in, dont give up it happens less and less as you get used to it and tomorrow will be a better day.

The first couple of weeks you will want to use it flaccid. After that you want to try using it erect.

5 minutes at a time is too little even for a beginner in my opinion. But you will want to work up to 10-24 mins once or twice a day. Dynamic pumping however, is a better method. Pump to Max where it is a little painful, then release just a little tiny bit of pressure. Hold that for as long as you can. Then release it until its completely comfortable and shake it for a minute or two for a bit of blood flow, then repump to the pain point and repeat.

At lower pressures it's difficult to use the bathmate for length. The bathmate is primarily a girth device anyway. In the beginning it's all about conditioning and learning the setup. The length label will be under estimating until the gator is well compressed, 6-9 pumps. And this label is mainly just to get you turned on by your own dick. Which is what PE is mostly about, for me anyway...

After 3 months you will want to think about the vacuvin mod and all day cockring. And other options.

If I remember right the slanted side is the bottom side. But you can use it reversed if you feel that's better. I rarely try it reversed but some swear it prevents their balls from getting grabbed. With x40 it's hard to get a good seal that doesn't leak when it's reversed. So it's mainly an x30 thing.

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