And starcraft is non fantasy, right?
sure it's sci-fi, but that's just another term for future fantasy,. surely?

I think you have to differentiate between "hard" Science Fiction and "soft" Science Fiction (space opera, ...).

Fantasy requires a suspension of disbelief from the reader (use of magic, fictional creatures, ...) whereas hard SF aims at showing a realistic vision of a future world (based on the present scientific knowledge, extrapolations of current trends, ...).

Fantasy displays a world that cannot and will never be, (hard) Science Fiction tries to show a world that was entirely plausible at the point of its conception.

Of course Starcraft does not fall into this category and might as well be labeled as fantasy.

The funny thing is I don't know right now what's the shit and what's the masterpiece in your eyes. ;D
But no matter how little you like Warcraft, it's tolkien-like fantasy, with orcs and elves and dwarves.

A guy, who knows a guy, who knows another guy makes statements about the last guy, under some pseudonym on some random forums.. And 12 pages down the road it's all hunky dory and taken for granted and valid...
I'm sorry to say, but that's everything but credible to me.
It starts for me with the simple fact that I cannot see anywhere a confirmation or even just an official reference what Titan actually is.
The links provided in the OP fail to deliver such proof.

I knew a guy that was BFFs with the cousin of another guy that was married to the sister of another guy that was BFFs with the second cousin of the step-brother of a wow dev who said it was a diablo mmo as well.

When I walk around sanctuary, and the various landscapes, I just a better sense of "world view". Even with not copying the landscape, I think that the layout and story telling of Diablo just lends itself more easily..... make that more palatable... to gamers. Part of the initial success of WH:AoR was the darker, more realized environment of the warhammer franchise. the character development is in place (assuming such iconic characters as Tyrael, Imperious, Cain.. etc make a comeback either as named, or parodied), the story of diablo can be considered as timeless as the warcraft story.. just not quite as character rich.

Starcraft, as with other RTS's just haven't had much success in the MMO, or worse: FPS market ( Think Command & Conquer. Amazing RTS, terrible in any other attempted format). There are realistically 4 storied characters to SC... everyone else is ENTIRELY obscure.

I would actually pay money for a starcraft universe MMO if it had the following
*If it was a third person shooter with the ability to enter first person view (melee would play a little like GW2 melee except without tab)
*If it had dynamic events like rift and firefall where zerg would attack bases and you would have to defend them or, if you lost the base, retake it. (the guards would be infected. Mmm)
*Extreme customization. Rift's tree insanity comes to mind.
*Meaningful crafting. Kill boss, get mats. Not pieces of gear. Crafting a single piece of gear should require orchestrating with several other professions. Get the steel plating crafted by a metallurgist, the programming by a hacker, and the fuel from a chemist so YOU, the mechanic, can combine all that along with some mats you make like machined bolts, a chaise frame, and a fuel cell recharger and then you create an Vulture motorcycle.
*Personal story per class like swtor.

I don't think its a diablo MMO, i have a hard time seeing what they could possibly achieve with many of the lords of hell being defeated, diablo merged with the lords being imprisoned within the black soulstone when he used Lea as his vessel and where later destroyed, The only missing link so far in the storyline is what Adria is up to after her disappearance in act 3, i suppose they would spin of on her resurrecting them. Would personally rather see a mmo set in starcraft being played a bit like mmo-fps.

Last edited by rashen; 2013-01-06 at 08:03 PM.
Reason: Spoiler tag incase someone not played D3

I don't think its a diablo MMO, i have a hard time seeing what they could possibly achieve with many of the lords of hell being defeated, diablo merged with the lords being imprisoned within the black soulstone when he used Lea as his vessel and where later destroyed, The only missing link so far in the storyline is what Adria is up to after her disappearance in act 3, i suppose they would spin of on her resurrecting them. Would personally rather see a mmo set in starcraft being played a bit like mmo-fps.

Well if you believe what Blizzard says about it not competing with WoW (other than being an mmorpg) then you have to rule out anything related to Warcraft. Diablo is fairly similar to Warcraft so you would have a lot of crossover and competition there, that rules out that. Something related to Starcraft is the only real possibility if you believe what this guy says. I wouldn't be surprised if it is an mmo based on Ghost, a 3rd person shooter similar to the mass effect series.

Shut up before we have Orcs flying around in battlecruisers ,find out naru are nothing more than truly enlightened protoss and Klaxxi/Silithi are mere evolved Zerg

Well of eternity could be nothing more than the leftovers from a mineral facility meltdown.

The Draenei came in a spaceship to azeroth and they came from argus before they populated Draenor, its a possibility they had contact with Protoss, you could also speculate in the eredar being related to the protoss.

back in the day when WC3 and WOW Were in dev at the same time WOW was a (D3) proto-type but at some point the dev team felt that the lore with the Warcraft universe was a larger pool to pull from so their (D3) proto-type became a Warcraft MMO that is why the old style of talents and the level system and skills seemed so much like a diablo and not a the Warcraft Rts.

Form a game play perspective Warcraft and Starcraft are the same series WC1,WC2,SC,WC3,SC2 but don't share the same story.... with Titans building worlds and races and the Zel'naga doing the same you never know. (remember we only see lore form the eyes of the people we play not the True history. this is the thing that makes blizzard lore so compelling.)

i can see people wanting a Diablo mmo but it is not in the stars would be too much like a WoW clone a D3 expac most likely is and titan is at most a year away form coming to light but i think it is going to be mostly a social game not a hardcore but with SC ghost getting canned we do have the ground work for a 3rd person shooter that had years in dev for and game engine so i can see it as a new mmo shooter but then i would question activision blizzard on going with a blizzard mmo shooter and not a CoD one but then activision was ok with Cod having more then on dev studio work on it and CoD would be a New IP for blizzard so you never know could be that too.

I really hope its a new IP... but i cant see Blizzard being that creative anymore. They will prob throw in some old wow dungeons too. Why not!! Just like how Nintendo will never do anything besides rehash mario and zelda games, blizz ill keep doing the same.

---------- Post added 2013-01-06 at 05:16 PM ----------

Originally Posted by hk-51

I would actually pay money for a starcraft universe MMO if it had the following
*If it was a third person shooter with the ability to enter first person view (melee would play a little like GW2 melee except without tab)
*If it had dynamic events like rift and firefall where zerg would attack bases and you would have to defend them or, if you lost the base, retake it. (the guards would be infected. Mmm)
*Extreme customization. Rift's tree insanity comes to mind.
*Meaningful crafting. Kill boss, get mats. Not pieces of gear. Crafting a single piece of gear should require orchestrating with several other professions. Get the steel plating crafted by a metallurgist, the programming by a hacker, and the fuel from a chemist so YOU, the mechanic, can combine all that along with some mats you make like machined bolts, a chaise frame, and a fuel cell recharger and then you create an Vulture motorcycle.
*Personal story per class like swtor.