Re: New Scirocco R Unveiled (jamie@vwvortex)

I don't like the Mazda 3 oh i mean the New Scirocco.
I owned a 1980 , 1981 and a 1990 Corrado, I loved those cars
I want to like the new Scirocco, the front and sides of the car are nice
but the ass looks identacal to a mazda 3.
It's bad enough I realized the other day that VW is the european
equivalent of Honda, "mass produced comuter cars" when VW made
the Scirocco and Corrado it was a compleat departure from the
comuter cars they were producing at that time.
The body styling and engine difference set them apart from the rest.
The origanal Scirocco A1 and A2 then the Corrado all had a sweptback
rear hatch.
The 16v, G60 and VR6 were all great advances in engine development
and debut in the Scirocco/Corrado. now the TSI is the current advance
in engine plateform.
I like the new TSI engine. the one thing i wanted in the Corrado was
RWD or AWD.
Food for Thought

Re: New Scirocco R Unveiled (Dutchmastr9)

If this car came in 4Motion I wouldnt care if it was 6 speed or DSG. I would sell my MK4 R32 in a second and buy one of these. I would even pay a price tag of $40k ish. We already pay these prices for similar Audi cars.
And comparing this to the GTI is useless. I would never buy a new GTI. The MK5 ruined it all.

Re: New Scirocco R Unveiled (vr6gtispeed)

This car would be way too much money to sell in the states. I say this car would be close to $40k. How many of you would actually buy a FWD car at that price? Don't get me wrong, this is one of the hottest cars VW has built but too much money for what it is. VWoA also knows hatch backs don't sell well in the US.

Modified by vr6gtispeed at 4:59 PM 5-20-2009

"How many of you would actually buy a FWD car at that price?" Not me. I might consider it if it was awd. I am not forking 40k for a fwd car based on a golf platform with a nice body kit [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthdown.gif[/IMG] .
"VWoA also knows hatch backs don't sell well in the US."
They should the golf and Jetta have beentraditionaly good sellers for vw. They sem to hace a hard timeholding on to Passats and Passat wagons. Also Subaru is now only offering the sti in a 4dr hatch(one reason i want one sooo bad). I can likely sell this to my wife for this reason.

Re: New Scirocco R Unveiled (jamie@vwvortex)

well. i like it, but i would want a manual, and i doubt it will make it to the US.
what is up with that? why do they keep all the goodies across the sea?
the tired argument about sales is getting boring. it would sell. i guess they're so scared they are gonna mess up golf sales that they are apprehensive, but whatever. if they keep all the good eggs in europe, how will they know how they would do here? i would think the more options you have in the US would mean the chance to appeal to wider audiences.
either way they'll either not bring it here, or wait so long to bring it here that none of us will care anymore, plus i can bet it will be detuned for the US market.....

Re: New Scirocco R Unveiled (captain coordination)

Holy mother of science that looks freaking incredible. I would even go as far as to say the front looks better then the R8's. Very aggressive and sexy, and it looks pissed off as hell. Unfortunately, as with the regular model, the back is still a huge turn off for me. While the R version's rear bumper makes it seem a little less fat it still looks like a mini-van from the rear. If the back looked even half as good as the front then this would have been one of the best looking cars ever made. I'll stick with the MkVI GTI.
Even so, I say we should organize a protest in front of VWoA's HQ until they finally bring this bad-boy over. Hunger strikes and everything.

The guy who said that this car looks like Mazda 3???
Are you nuts?
Also, why are you guys so pessimistic about Scirocco coming to US? I bet it will come, but probably in limited editions just like R32 did. And also it's a bit stupid to expect that this car will cost under 35k.

Re: New Scirocco R Unveiled (captain coordination)

6 speed please... and AWD, this would make it the best car VW has ever produced! ....It would be one bad mamma jamma
oh and if you want to make it a R32 or R34... now were talking nuts! .....oh i will keep dreaming....anyway back to real life.

Re: FV-QR (TheGermanExperience)

They just don't get it - a car like this, although probably not a great business case, is never going to be a profitable endevour in itself. ...but a car like this can only enhance the brand image, and VW is a brand with a nice core of enthusiasts and people who are passionate about the brand because of cool products like this they did in the past.
I dare VW to bring this at loss, even as a fashion statement. They don't realize how fashion-driven the US is, and just seeing one on the road will excite people and create future VW owners

In better times, this is a pretty sound argument and almost identical to the one that convinced VAG to bring the Mk4 R32 stateside. As most of you know, until what some would call the last minute, they had no plans to bring that car here.
But 2009 bears little resemblance to 2003, and if ever there were a time when accountants were kings, it's now. Bottom line is everything.
Finally, speaking of the bottom line, the US has been a perennial loser for VAG. They know they need to be a player here, but the truth is they'd love to just abandon the US market and stick where they're loved and profitable. IOW, the US market is not in a position to dictate anything to VAG at this point in time.
We'll get a GTI R (I hear the R20 moniker is no more), Probably. Maybe. And if we do, whether any of you want to hear it or not, we ought to be thankful.
Oh yeah; I want a Scirocco R so bad I can taste it.

Re: New Scirocco R Unveiled (DHill)

Hopefully the new North American management can make this happen! I would be whiling to pay some serious cash for a Scirocco R!
Chances are it will be DSG, especially if it ever came stateside, which is a bummer but what can you do. I don't really care about AWD but a manual 6-speed would have no competition, not even the TT has a manual in the 2.0t! I would have already purchased a new TT if a manual was offered . . but now . . . I would gladly wait for this beast.
VW feel free to IM me to get my purchase started

Re: FV-QR (Nuzzi)

imo just another dissapointment. i feel the company is slacking big time and is affraid to be creative just like everyother company. They can do soo much better, it looks like a civic. ghey.

Please attach the picture of the civic your talking abut. I never saw an agressive style 2 door hatch by honda that is out now. I must be missing something. POST THOSE PICS UP ASAP because I might go trade in my GTI

Re: FV-QR (chikubi)

yeah i must admit that my argument makes better sense back in 2003, unfortunately. I was thinking just now, "so what if they take a $10k loss on each car, bring 5000 over!" then I realized that is a $5M loss. Probably not happening nowadays, that is a lot of coin to enhance brand image. But still...
Whatever the case is, I love this car and my lease is up in 2 years and I swear to VW if this is available it WILL be my next ride. 110% guaranteed...

Re: (04RSR32)

Oh man ... I love this. As an R though I'm disappointed it's not 4 motion... But I would still seriously consider a trade of my 04 R32 for this as it's lighter, stiffer, lower, wider, and just plain badass looking not to mention would get better mpg. although how does it sound???? hmmmmm

Re: (jaegervw2)

oh, and for those who think this looks like a Mazda 3 you're missing the fact that if you pulled a 'rocco up next to a Mzd3 the roof would be just above the window sill of the 3 and you could still see those massive fenders of the 'rocco poking out in front view well past the 3's tall thin proportions

IMO, I still they need to make it a true fast back like so: [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emgift.gif[/IMG]

FV-QR

they could seriously sell a poop ton of those here in the state on looks alone.
its Audi TTS performance but for well under $50,000. ive driven and sold a few TTS coupes and that car is waaaay fun to drive.

Re: New Scirocco R Unveiled (jamie@vwvortex)

This looks like a great car. I would buy one. Too bad we will not get it over here. But hey, we all want to drive the VW/ [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthdown.gif[/IMG] Chrysler mini van, right? What sort of butt heads are running VW?