Previously released tanks are NOT being changed. They have permanently built in camouflage and will continue to have it. With the introduction of Clear camouflage, we are no longer doing built-in permanent camouflage for several reasons

Players have been very vocal over the cost of Premium tanks. Not having built-in camouflage means we no longer have to include the permanent camouflage cost into the value of the tank, which reduces the price for the player.

Players now have more choice and options:

You can choose to equip Permanent camouflage on your tank for Gold. This gives you the same end result for the same Gold cost as before.

You can choose to equip Temporary camouflage on your tank for Silver. This lets you save some Gold and equip camouflage as needed when you want to play the tank.

You can choose to do neither and not spend any additional Silver or Gold.

This is a 100% positive change for players and nothing about it is negative.

Previously released tanks are NOT being changed. They have permanently built in camouflage and will continue to have it. With the introduction of Clear camouflage, we are no longer doing built-in permanent camouflage for several reasons

Players have been very vocal over the cost of Premium tanks. Not having built-in camouflage means we no longer have to include the permanent camouflage cost into the value of the tank, which reduces the price for the player.

Players now have more choice and options:

You can choose to equip Permanent camouflage on your tank for Gold. This gives you the same end result for the same Gold cost as before.

You can choose to equip Temporary camouflage on your tank for Silver. This lets you save some Gold and equip camouflage as needed when you want to play the tank.

You can choose to do neither and not spend any additional Silver or Gold.

This is a 100% positive change for players and nothing about it is negative.

I mean you've been raising the prices of tanks compared to PC anyway without the camo issue because we're console and that somehow justifies tanks being more expensive even though you guy's have ported over countless tanks before and not had to raise the price for no reason

Previously released tanks are NOT being changed. They have permanently built in camouflage and will continue to have it. With the introduction of Clear camouflage, we are no longer doing built-in permanent camouflage for several reasons

Players have been very vocal over the cost of Premium tanks. Not having built-in camouflage means we no longer have to include the permanent camouflage cost into the value of the tank, which reduces the price for the player.

Players now have more choice and options:

You can choose to equip Permanent camouflage on your tank for Gold. This gives you the same end result for the same Gold cost as before.

You can choose to equip Temporary camouflage on your tank for Silver. This lets you save some Gold and equip camouflage as needed when you want to play the tank.

You can choose to do neither and not spend any additional Silver or Gold.

This is a 100% positive change for players and nothing about it is negative.

Previously released tanks are NOT being changed. They have permanently built in camouflage and will continue to have it. With the introduction of Clear camouflage, we are no longer doing built-in permanent camouflage for several reasons

Players have been very vocal over the cost of Premium tanks. Not having built-in camouflage means we no longer have to include the permanent camouflage cost into the value of the tank, which reduces the price for the player.

Players now have more choice and options:

You can choose to equip Permanent camouflage on your tank for Gold. This gives you the same end result for the same Gold cost as before.

You can choose to equip Temporary camouflage on your tank for Silver. This lets you save some Gold and equip camouflage as needed when you want to play the tank.

You can choose to do neither and not spend any additional Silver or Gold.

This is a 100% positive change for players and nothing about it is negative.

So basically we pay the same price as before the cahnge and get nothing for it?

I will be very loud vocally if this is the case cause i have seen nothing about any discount on premiumtanks after this change or is that just hidden behind the ads.

I my book this is cheap cause we all know that there is discounts and a varaity in bundles and special sales that knowone sane can keep a track record about it for sure feels very suspicious but i am happy to stay that way just make more sence to not go onboard the latest train and stay at the station.

Most assuring line is that this 100% positive for players and nothing about it is negative ?wow

Why did you find that line ? It is just so jawdropping i could never come up with something like that do you have seminairs to learn that?

Dont get me wrong Max i do appreciate you and the work you do for us but man that is a typo?

So basically we pay the same price as before the cahnge and get nothing for it?

I will be very loud vocally if this is the case cause i have seen nothing about any discount on premiumtanks after this change or is that just hidden behind the ads.

I my book this is cheap cause we all know that there is discounts and a varaity in bundles and special sales that knowone sane can keep a track record about it for sure feels very suspicious but i am happy to stay that way just make more sence to not go onboard the latest train and stay at the station.

Most assuring line is that this 100% positive for players and nothing about it is negative ?wow

Why did you find that line ? It is just so jawdropping i could never come up with something like that do you have seminairs to learn that?

Dont get me wrong Max i do appreciate you and the work you do for us but man that is a typo?

"So basically we pay the same price as before the cahnge and get nothing for it?"

I don't understand what you mean. You're paying LESS because you don't get a permanent camouflage bonus.

​Bog Horror: Cost 9000 Gold instead of 9,800 Gold

​800 Gold less as then players can chose to either spend that 800 gold extra for permanant camo, or Silver for Temp, or no camo at all.

"I will be very loud vocally if this is the case cause i have seen nothing about any discount on premiumtanks after this change or is that just hidden behind the ads."

The base value of the tank is what's lower. It's not a discount/sale.

"I my book this is cheap cause we all know that there is discounts and a varaity in bundles and special sales that knowone sane can keep a track record about it for sure feels very suspicious but i am happy to stay that way just make more sence to not go onboard the latest train and stay at the station."

See above. You're misunderstanding.

"Most assuring line is that this 100% positive for players and nothing about it is negative ?wow"Why did you find that line ? It is just so jawdropping i could never come up with something like that do you have seminairs to learn th

Nothing wow about it. This is a great thing for players. You're just misunderstanding.

Max, Thank you for the clarification per no changes on pre-existing tanks. When I bought them I knew that I was paying extra for the camo and factored it in too my decision... Please make sure that the future premiums state clearly if they have permanent camo included so that we know if we need to up-grade but other then that... Thanks.

"So basically we pay the same price as before the cahnge and get nothing for it?"

I don't understand what you mean. You're paying LESS because you don't get a permanent camouflage bonus.

​Bog Horror: Cost 9000 Gold instead of 9,800 Gold

​800 Gold less as then players can chose to either spend that 800 gold extra for permanant camo, or Silver for Temp, or no camo at all.

suicidalblues, on 10 December 2018 - 08:08 AM, said:

The Mutant has an in game cost of 7500 gold.
Bog Horror has an in game cost of 9000 gold.

If there isn't any difference/ advantage in the Bog camo, what is the justification for the (rather substantial) price increase?

MaxChaos24, on 10 December 2018 - 08:17 AM, said:

While it doesn't have a built-in camo bonus, it still has a unique look which adds value.

Max, perhaps you are unaware, so let me spell it out.

WG has had a long standing pricing practice that puts reskins with no statistical camo enhancement at the same price as the base version. Tanks that include the camo bonus have a price premium. The presence of that price premium has been consistent for camo bonus tanks ever since the Freedom (at least that's the first one I can recall).

While this new policy does have positives (all tank's camo/paint will work the same way), making the reskins more expensive with no enhancement beyond the visual is a clear change of pricing policy that definitely is a negative to the consumer.

It is the general impression that the Bog Horror is the first tank to break that long standing pricing practice. However, I took a good look, and it appears the Bizon was actually the first one to break that practice. It slipped under everyone's radar. It is now fully on the radar.

I, for one, will be more selective in which such tanks I purchase in the future.

Edited by Pontiac Pat, 10 December 2018 - 05:11 PM.

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WG has had a long standing pricing practice that puts reskins with no statistical camo enhancement at the same price as the base version. Tanks that include the camo bonus have a price premium. The presence of that price premium has been consistent for camo bonus tanks ever since the Freedom (at least that's the first one I can recall).

While this new policy does have positives (all tank's camo/paint will work the same way), making the reskins more expensive with no enhancement beyond the visual is a clear change of pricing policy that definitely is a negative to the consumer.

It is the general impression that the Bog Horror is the first tank to break that long standing pricing practice. However, I took a good look, and it appears the Bizon was actually the first one to break that practice. It slipped under everyone's radar. It is now fully on the radar.

I, for one, will be more selective in which such tanks I purchase in the future.

Thanks for spelling it out, however what you're saying is not quite correct. All my previous statements were accurate. There was no change in pricing beyond the removal of the camo cost from the base price of the tank. You guys are way overthinking this as there is literally no negatives nor any changes beyond what was stated. You're just no longer being forced to pay Gold for 4 permanent camouflage, and instead now get to choose if you want to buy them for Gold, Silver, none, or wait for a Camo sale.

I will just say, of the pricing of tanks, camouflage was never one of the things that being complained about. It seems the tanks pricing could be lowered by dropping the unpopular features that come with most tanks. The ammunition, crew, and garage slot could be removed, and that would lower prices without a furor. A nothing but the tank option I think would be popular. anyway, that’s just my unsolicited 5cent opinion. Thanks for the clarification.