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"In Four Months, Republicans Introduced 916 Bills Against Women’s Right To ChooseOn April 20, 2011, in Domestic Policies, by Ezra Grant"

"Four months, 916 bills intro­duced. Sounds like a new record is about to be set. What­ever hap­pened to Roe v. Wade? You know, the 1973 deci­sion by the Supreme Court that gives women the right under the 14th amend­ment of the Con­sti­tu­tion to make that choice? The law that has guided this issue for the last four decades?"

The point is pretty clear. Republicans in the House (because that is the source of the bills) are more interested in limiting a woman's right to choose than they are on jobs. How many jobs bills have been introduced by the current House? NONE.

So in essence he is pointing out that they bambozzled the folks that believed that was their sole focus, as stated during the campaign. They continue to do so today, and keep pounding falsehoods at every opportunity. Look at the recent shutdown talk. (Because their rationale for a clear path to job creation is cutting spending and lowering the deficit.) After all is said and done, the cuts will be in the millions,and not billions. So again it was political theatre... for nothing.

So back to the point of the post, republicans, have proven that they are more focused on limiting a woman's right to choose than they are with fixing the economy or lowering the deficit. Which is a paradox in itself because the Ryan budget calls for substantial cuts in early childhood education (Head Start), medicaid (for poor mothers), and take away avenues to get low-cost pre-natal care. So that tells me that they care about a child UNTIL he/she are born.

No. It tells me they're finally focusing on the right to Life that each person has. It's about time they quit letting the Left distract them from the most important points. I sure hope they get around to dealing with the other moral issues as well, soon. Those are the issues that the Left are using to destroy America's morale and morality. If those are dealt with correctly, the issue of jobs and money and foreign policy will follow, put back in place as they should be.

Morale and morality? Who had that, and when did America have any? Marale, maybe, morality NEVER. Being pro-life if your belief and you are free to feel that way. However, you nor I should be able to tell someone else that they can't do whatever they want to or with their body. Morality is relative, and tied to a religious faith. We can all be law abiding people, but have a completely different outlook on morality. Morals are personal, as is a person's decision as to what her and her doctor views as safe and legal.

Jobs, won't come after morality. Nor will the money. Foriegn policy problem is that we are an imperilist country, but don't want to be. There is no turning that overnight or a generation for that matter

How is it not relative by definition? One person's sense of morality often will differ from another. There is no problem with that. It's why we have religious freedom. Isn't that where the notion of morality comes from?

Abortion is a medical procedure. One that should only be discussed by a doctor and patient. Not my business. What should be regulated (not legislated) are safety measures and protocols.

First of all, if you can go around accusing conservatives of "forcing women to give birth" and "chaining them to the floor", you make a generalization that's unnecessary and untrue.Secondly, if you can talk about those things, I sure can too. I'm not interested in your private life. You're the one who keeps bringing it up.

Oh, so THAT explains the mystery!Too busy chip, chip, chipping away at women's right to privacy over their own reproductive systems to give much (read: ANY) attention to JOBS.Where are those jobs they promised, anyway???

QUOTE:Which is a paradox in itself because the Ryan budget calls for substantial cuts in early childhood education (Head Start), medicaid (for poor mothers), and take away avenues to get low-cost pre-natal care. So that tells me that they care about a child UNTIL he/she are born.---------------Wow, pathetic, isn't it?

I never quite understand though, the whole 'a woman's right' idea - whether or not to KILL A BABY? Where does that come from?! The choice is made when you have sex, isn't it? But I know it seems a little unclear because pregnancy isn't guaranteed. Still, a man is required to support a baby he didn't want but a woman can actually kill one?

Speaking of stupid and dangerous, if you could see beyond your extreme hatred of Republicans, you would see that it is not about restricting the rights of women, rather it is about saving a child. How terrible of them.

I agree they are going about it the wrong way. Leave Roe v. Wade alone and try to change the mindset about abortion. Educated and informed freedom of choice is the best venue.

Those that are all over Republicans in the house for not fixing the economy and reducing unemployment, conveniently forget that the Senate and the White House are controlled by the Democrats. That until this year the Democrats controlled both houses of Congress as well as the White House and despite their wonderfulness, they did nothing but dig a deeper hole. So how about reducing the venom and vitriol, and postulate some serious, thoughtful, bipartisan solutions? Yeah I know, it's too much to ask.

"So how about reducing the venom and vitriol, and postulate some serious, thoughtful, bipartisan solutions?"

Umm, Obama has been trying to do that for 3 years. Maybe this time, your guys will give it a chance, instead of obstructing every little thing--instead of demanding that everything be your way or the highway...but I'm not holding my breath.

Enuff trying--you people don't want to play? Then sit on the sidelines and be ignored.

Don't you kill a baby slowly by not funding programs that fight child poverty and hunger? We always forget that we have over 24 million children living in poverty in America, over 3 million of those are under 5. We also have 17 million children living in food insecure environments. That is where they are not in an environment where they can expect to eat on a daily basis. This is not a personal responsibility issue. Many people get abortions because they simply can't aford to keep the child

Also with cuts to headstart and other early childhood education programs will only further the plight of these kids. Call me a liberal if you want, but if you are not willing to give a child an equality of opportunity to succeed in this country, then what does it matter if kids are aborted?

Rights versus Morality = Rights Win. Morality cannot nor should it be forced upon people/individuals. The "Right to Life" has been completely skewed by the religious majority and those who have a religious belief, should check their religious beliefs at the door, when it comes to dealing with other people. Meaning, keep your beliefs in your life and out of other people's life. It isn't your place to dictate "how" other people are to live their life.

If you want morality to win out in the end, then fund the education of people, instead of attempting to force them to conform.

916 bills introduced related to abortion.The last poll I read said that less than 1% of Americans consider abortion a top priority for legislators.Americans voted these yahoos in because our economy is in the toilet and people have suffered enough. We NEED jobs.So instead of focusing on what they promised, they are busy pushing their religious agenda.It's like excluding every other major issue we face and ONLY focusing on gay marriage.This is not what the electorate wants Congress to be focusing on.Get with the program. Or get voted out next time.It's really very simple.Meanwhile, America is having a very rude awakening as to WHAT they've done. Buyer's remorse for those who were bamboozled."I hate to say it, but we tried to warn you!" from the rest of us.

And not for anything, but how in the world is having more children going to reduce poverty or the deficit, create more jobs or solve our international woes? Does not compute.

So you don't want women chained to the floor or forced to give birth. I'm wondering if you are equally interested in the rights of all those unborn females who are ripped limb from limb in the almighty name of "choice"?

As soon as you agree to end all war.End the use of depleted uranium..ooops, that's already outlawed!End the use of white phosphorous...ooops...also against the law to use on civilians, but WE DO!!

And here we have a legal procedure that has 916 bills against it......Yet wars carry on as if no one ever dies, has their rimbs blown off,their skin burned, their mom and dad killed, their child killed, their family blown to smithereens.

Just what is it about abortion that makes it any more wrong to you than war?

That's nothing...they have a church here that used to put dead fetuses in jars as you walked through the door....morbid cult.

My favorite question on this matter came from a populist talk-show host, Gerry Williams.He said:"If you walked into a burning building, and there was a woman,and a fetus in a tube, and you could only save one...which would it be?"

The solution is simple. Pass laws making it mandatory that all right to lifers must adopt or at least pay child support for at least 1 child that is not theirs, with severe penalties for noncompliance.

Oh, so you're okay with killing a life if it's created by a rape? Why are people's lives worth less if they were conceived via rape?

Either you believe a fetus is sacred and abortion is murder, in which case making an exception for rape implies that a life created from rape is somehow less valuable, or you believe that women who have been raped should be forced to give birth. Choose.

I've already told you you have two choices. You cannot reject them both if you wish to maintain a standpoint. Unfortunately transplanting the fetus into the body of a willing woman isn't actually possible, so either the woman gives birth or she does not. Which do you think should happen?

Memo to dingdontington: nobody is saying rape victims should be forced to carry a baby to term. My personal feelings on the subject aside, abortion in the case of rape has always been legal, and nobody in the mainline pro-life camp is trying to change that.....

So you're fine with forcing someone to do something, just so long as it is the person or gender that YOU want something forced upon?

Oooookay....

Unfortunately, LMC, woman have been designated by God or Mother Nature to be the bearer of children. A baby should never be viewed as a punishment. But if you are going to engage in behavior that may result in a baby, you should be responsible enough to step up and take care of that baby.

What is it about the word "responsibility" that liberals are so allergic to?

Let's say a woman who is extremely poor and struggling along on a minimum wage job that only barely covers her rent becomes pregnant. You are advocating she keep her baby, naturally lose her job along the line, and finance a pregnancy (they are expensive) and then raise a child (even more expensive)?

Sounds like you don't care about the woman OR the child, because they would both starve, possibly to death.

Would you agree to force boys to have vasectomies rather than force girls to give birth against their will?Vasectomies are a much simpler, easier procedure, it can be reversed, and it would spare a lot of pain and suffering on the girl's part...having had 3 deliveries, believe me, it is pain and suffering.

If it truly is abortion you want to prevent, this makes infinitely more sense!!

No, I am not going to line my ten year old son up for a vasectomy to make sure he doesn't make a mistake when he's older. Instead, I'm about educating him as to why things work the way they do, as well as the possible results.

I'm also raising him and my daughters to take responsibility for their actions.

Oh but those guys don't want women to keep the legs closed, oh my, no, no. 'Boys must have fun' A lot of those guys also don't care to stick around to raise kids, blaming women because, you see, men have Not learned about birth control for themselves 'that's a woman's job' you know. Some men also don't care to pay child support, so do Conservatives give us answers for Those social problems, or do they just point fingers at women in general?

I'm all in favor of holding a man's feet to the fire on this issue. But at the same time, you are perfectly willing to throw the man's rights as the father out the window if the woman chooses to abort......

The "responsibility" you're arguing about is nothing but distortion. The woman's responsibility is to self, so as to provide for her own future and if the pregnancy is going to damage or put that future in jeopardy, then it is her RIGHT to do what she can to ensure that HER future is how she wants it.

And some Men have just pointed fingers. NOT a biology lesson but a lesson on Men and responsibility. I can tell you the great lengths Some guys I KNEW went to to Avoid child support. Preach this to guys!

Again, you distort as per usual. It is a fact that some children after birth are more of a burden and literally destroys people's life. If you don't want to accept that, then it would be just a lack of knowledge on your part. Good for you. However, everyone's situations/circumstance don't permit it or make it even possible, which again, you FAIL in understanding.You refer to me as from the LEFT or RIGHT, then you need to get a life dude.

I am neither. I am all about advocating the RIGHTS of the individual who is already living their life. Again, being BORN is NOT a choice.

This whole health, future in jeopardy stuff is a load of crap. The vast majority of women are able to lead fully normal lives all the way through pregnancy. My ex wife worked right up until the day before she delivered all three of our kids.

Of course there are cases where pregnancy might pose problems, but they are an extremely small percentage....

You've misunderstood as per usual. I find your above statement in bad taste. Simply because you think I am amused. How pathetic.That's because they have the right to choice and see a path in which they can survive a livable life. Those who cannot, must have another option, which YOU are trying to take away from them.That's your opinion, because you cannot see beyond yourself. But, that would be nothing new.

Warning - uninformed about politics and usually like it that way because of the fury, unclearness, and corruption involved question:

I see that people saying abortion should be looked at as a woman's right to choose by liberals, right? As opposed to conservatives (and conservatives are considered religious usually)? But I thought liberals are the ones who want government involved in people's lives with lots of programs and funding. Do I have it backwards?

Um, dude, an unborn baby has no ability to choose its destiny. Neither does a three month old baby....so I assume you would condone the murder of a three month old baby if it became a hardship to the parents?

But it still cannot make choices on its own. Therefore, your argument still applies. Either follow your arguments through to their logical conclusion or get out of the way and let more rational, intelligent debate proceed....

It is NOT a right of an individual to infringe upon the individual rights of another. Those who are advocating the stripping of a woman's right to life and right to choose, are infringing upon the her rights.

Pregnancy is an automatic 'infringement' on a woman's rights, just because the US and other countries decreed it unfair doesn't change nature. Aren't the people arguing this way the same ones who claim nature should decide a person's sex? That it's natural to be homosexual and therefore you can't say it's wrong?

Instead of screaming (yes, people here are screaming in fury, you can tell by word choice) about how nature works and you don't like it, wouldn't it be better to argue about the baby's right to a decent life which won't happen when they're unwanted and unfed?

Actually, this argument hold no weight. Pregnancy isn't an automatic "infringement" on a woman's right.Nature doesn't determine a person's sex. Genetics determines a person's sex. Being homosexual is a choice. I understand where you're coming from with this statement. That is why I advocate for woman's rights and suggest that education is better than abortion, but abortion is just an option. It all remain a choice.

Something else, it used to be common to hear of people wanting babies and they couldn't have them. People spend so much on fertility drugs to have kids - aren't these people adopting?! Where are they? Or has the situation changed that drastically in the past generation?

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