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Although I support Hillary, there are limits on what one should do to win.

Bush railroaded his vote count in Florida through the US Supreme Court in 2000 --- and he got his antics to be the final word, and in that sense "it doesn't matter".

But he also demoralized countless Americans (millions?) about the relevancy and validity of the democratic process, and in that sense he damaged "the system" and the nation. And that does matter.

In 2004 the GOP disenfranchised thousands in Ohio by making long lines stand in the rain, then closed the polls before everyone got a chance to vote. They also attempted to intimidate blacks and Latinos from voting, with mixed success. Tactics such as that, too, cause people to lose faith in the electoral process. Losing faith causes many Americans to not bother voting. And that does matter.

So I don't agree with the "win any way you can" attitude. Ultimately, it will undermine our national spirit and corrupt the electoral process.

Clinton won by barely over 9% , NOT 10, NOT "double digit" as some have erroneously proclaimed. Her delegate gain over Obama coming out of PA is even less impressive.

And at what cost ??? :

"The Pennsylvania campaign, which produced yet another inconclusive result on Tuesday, was even meaner, more vacuous, more desperate, and more filled with pandering than the mean, vacuous, desperate, pander-filled contests that preceded it."
( New York Times editorial today "The Low Road to Victory" )

Is it not wonderful that we have two candidates of such abilities. Obama has brought more attention to the Democrats than anyone in my memory, but he has gotten most of his delegates from states which last went Democrat for president in the Johnson Landslide of 1964. I would love it if it could happen, but the sleeping plan of the Republicans is to fracture the unity we need to perpetuate their power.

With the exception of his home state Clinton has won every state the Democrats need to elect a president. It would not take long for her Park Ridge Illinois roots to flourish if she were the final choice of the superdelegates. Other similarly progressive states she lost like Minnesota would go Clinton as well. Thusfar she is the choice I have greatest confidence in because I want someone who both speaks to my issues, and the greater issue of the country, and has the familiarity with the way Washington works to accomplish something. She still may not win in the end, but the manner of her or Obama's not obtaining the nomination is what now must be handled with a maximum of respect.

I know that Obama runs as the candidate of change of the status quo, but I foresee a "strong congress weak presidency" if he is elected which could lead to gridlock during our ongoing economic downturn. The entrenched power bases in DC are not going to just roll over if he is elected. Consider how long the tobacco lobby survived.

What's the point? She won big in PA. So what? All that means is that when she finally -- if not gracefully -- exists the race then she can run for governor of the state of Pennsylvania.

The fact remains is that Obama is in the lead for pledged delegates, total popular vote (over 500,000) and number of contests won (29 to 15). There is no way in the remaining nine contests that Hillary can catch Obama by any metric.

I get a hoot out of Hillary stating that only states like PA and OH with large working-class whites matter. If that's the case, the let's just end the charade of holding contests in the remaining 48 states to nominate our candidates in the future, and let's tell those states populated by liberals, blacks, the affluent, the educated and the youth that their votes don't count in the Demoncratic Party.

The final delegate count is not done yet my best souce is 79 for Clinton 70 for Obama and 9 still to be handed out so it could wind up a tie? and heres the link to the best count page I have found yet this year.Btw Senator Obama still has the most delegates as of today.

She won 9 more delegates, maybe less ... after having lost HALF her initial, double digit lead. Of course, she's still behind in the popular vote, still behind in delegates ... but other than that ... a must win for HRC does add up.

HRC proves she can win ugly, by using the fear card. It's just too little, too late. So the win was necessary, ugly and insufficient. Hardly handsprings territory.

and the bar keeps changing, doesn't it? this is enough, no now it's not... reminds me of when I'd beat my brother playing basketball. he was older, much taller and when I managed to perfect a 15' outside shot, a little head fake, he would say I didn't know how to drive the hoop.