It seems the credit issue is key with you....here is a helpful hint- Do not use credit cards.
I had one. One. It cost me $1087 to clear up. I learned my lesson and that the companies are crooked concerning intrest rates. Yet, I took
responsibility for SPENDING the cash in the first place.

America has been slipping along with the rest of the world into corruption, malfeasance, government illegalites etc. Do you think, really think the
whole of this nation is how YOU see it?? I don't want to live anywhere else thank you. The faults you list happen elsewhere as well and most
Americans have A/C, running water, cereal in the morning and cable TV- we have it soooooooooooo hard in this country???!

Whine & Cheese Party- ......sign petition here.............

I'm sorry I missed the N- comment as I am a victim of that kind of crap.

Web,
Then leave, its a free country. It would be better if you did. Go move to Cuba, you'd be really free there, or maybe China. You just don't
know how good we got it in the US, your spoiled like most of the US. How bout you try to pump your water from a well that might have disease? How
bout you sleep on the ground with a bug net everyday hoping you don't catch something? How bout you suck in tons of dust because the streets aren't
paved? I could go on and on, you see I've been blessed in living or visiting different countries of the world. I've seen some really really bad
areas, trust me it could be worse.So get ur pacifier out of your mouth and go do something about it if you don't like the US.

I know its already been said, but if you do not like the country, Move away - go somewhere else where you think it will be different. You know what
though? It will never be different for YOU anywhere else. The problem is that all issues/problems we perceive actually lie within.

We must stop blaming our government for our own ills, and fortunately we happen to live in a country that allows us to change our circumstances. Most
of the world does not.

True, our society has taken a step in the wrong direction, but this is because so many of us don't challenge! We don't challenge our government,
our media, and above all, ourselves! This country was founded on that principal, and is the greatest nation on earth because of it...and why so many
struggle to come here. Interesting, how those that migrate to our country seem to excel in their lives, and achieve the dreams so many of us complain
we can't seem to find!

The problem lies in the fact that we've allowed ourselves to become complacent and lazy (living off the fruits of our founders and past generations).
We want it all, but we don't want to work for it!

If you want change, start with yourself web. Do something about it. Granted, the country's ills may be too large for one person to change, but if
you make the change in yourself first, others around you tend to do likewise. And guess what?...Once everyone makes this change, our problems (as a
society) begin to go away.

Or...you can continue to wine and complain about your life, and focus on all the frocked up issues in this country as a rationale for your
inadequecies. You know what happens if you do this?? You die miserable without ever accomplishing s**t.

Originally posted by websuspect
America. Love it or leave it. Well everyones leaving.
Levi left. AS if you didnt know. They only had 2 more factories left and now their closed. Everyones laid off.

All the factories are closed and by my estimation. We are now the worlds leading producer of Drugg addicts. I live in Maryland. I went on a trip to
PA and I heard on the radio that mining town had a major drug raid. Why would any sane person WANT to live here.

All the cars made here now are pure grade a #. We used to make really good cars. Now there full of electronics and all kinds of crap you cant work
on yourself. So the governmetn can push a button and all the cars will #ing die.

This 77 years old life expectancy is a joke. With Aids and Drugs I realy dont see how the life expectancy could be more than 30. The US is the
biggest lying sack of crap, when it comes to putting out numbers on inflation, deathratesor the multi trillion dollar deficit. One day the deficits
gone. The next day is back. No onr buys this crap.

Politicians. Ruaaia has what 25,000 nuclear weapons. If their smart they have them all pointed at washington DC. These representatives, Represent
stealing, smoking, drinking and whoring around. Youve all read the figures on stealing stamps, DUIs and dumping bodies in the potomic. They ever
find out who killed that intern? Was it Chessie the lockness monster. Just more good old compasionate conservative republicans.

While %1 of the country drives around in their new SUV and talking on the cellphone. The rest of us our dying from cancer, paying bills from the
hospital and wearing cloths full of holes. WE dare not charge one thing more on the credit card. Even a pair of underwear and give corporate America
another dollar earned from the sweat on our brows.

Its a #ing joke that in the "most wealthy" country in the world, we subsidize third world countries and bomb the rest with Billions of dollars in
war machines. While homeless people push shopping carts in the streets. Most cities are outlawing homelessness. As if its some kind of crime to be
poor. Paid for by your tax dollars.

Even if you dont have a job, health care or food. Expect to get yoru taxs. If you dont pay them you will soon be homeless.

Other countries like Canada are moving to number one in quality of living. While the US slides to number three. Yup the US. The nations with
probably the largest number of educated, hardworking God fearing people is becoming a 3rd world country. Because our greedy government is stealing
everything and throwing it away. Weve become a disposable society with a disposable government full of disposable people and disposable incomes.

No wonder other countries hate us. I hate US. We used to be the greatest country in the world. Now we are just a bunch of fat, lazy, ignorant
selfish greedy drunken people.

God bless America.

[Edited on 5-10-2003 by Toltec]

Its okay young man. You're angry and thats normal. Not a guy in here hasn't went through that stage. Its our nature to buck the system and right
now, you're being bombarded by anti-American sentiment from every influence that touches you. Your anger feels uncontrollable and must be directed
at something. You see the rich in your school getting it all. cars, money, fame, the eye of the opposite sex. You're right about it not being
fair. It never has been and what we live under today wasn't what was intended by the people who, like you, rebelled against the very same thing.

We have poor because we have people who can but refuse to take responsibility for themselves and therefore decide that they are entitled to a
lifestyle reguardless of who pays for it. Well, its not the rich elite that pay for..because they shelter their fortunes from taxes. Thats why all
your hollywood movie stars were against the tax cut. They have already hidden their loot from taxes so it wouldn't help them at all. The people who
require all their wages and earnings to live are the real victims. they need it so they can't have it tucked away. The burden of everyone who feels
they are entitled yet decide to let someone else pay for it is upon the shoulders of the poor. The poor are those that get up everyday and make the
money that pays for everyone.

So, your anger is not unfounded and I ask you use it and harness it to motivate yourself to rise above it. I know you're liberal and thats okay too.
I'm conservative in my ideology but I'm older and I've seen much more of how things really work. More over, I've seen the danger in socialism
and what its protocols have done to this country in just a decade and how difficult its gonna be to recover from them and I can't, in good
conscience, advocate that as a better system. The leeches on society (rich elite and lazy entitled) live better but the responsible people are
punished for their achievments. They take risks, take some failures but when they are successful, they are punished. Yet, they still try everyday.
Thats the drive and motivation that is America. Its unyeilding determination in the face of unfair punishment for success. Yet it seems the middle
class is growing smaller while shouldering more of the weight. I attribute that to the class envy and class warfare that has been pushed over the
last decade or so. The rich elite and the entitled lazy both feeding like leeches from the productive society until they have consumed it totally.
Not a pretty picture and it must be delt with...sooner or later..either by the producers or the consumers when the producers are no longer able to
sustain them.

I drink botled water. That flouridated # that comes out of the tap isnt fit for Cats and dogs.

The credit thing. I dont owe any money at all on credit cards.

Heres the thing. If you give people credit cards and take away their jobs or their income than their forced to slave all their life as an indentured
servant to pay back the money.

Banks arent too bad. You can put money in and borrow money. In a sense its just that a bank. When Banks give out credit cards to make income that
is bad. Statistics show thta Bank tellers are on the way out.

Get out Hmm. How about. I get out when you declare martial law, put up cameras and drive tanks through the streets.

Than you will see how angry myself and the rest of the mobs in the big citys are.

Nice show last night how 20,000 Zulu warriors with spears and clubs killed 3000 British troops with rifles. They got all smoked up on hemp, took some
mushrooms and went out and stomped the heck out of the British.

Of course everyone can say "leave the U.S. leave the u.s." but instead of being subject to Amerikkka's domestic policy, as soon as you leave, you
become subject to Amerikkka's foreign policy. Which is worse?

you don't get out much do you? Travel and you will see that the US does not control every minute detail of every person's life on this
planet. Nor do they do it in the US either.

Not yet.

Neo, you confuze me at times. You are a Canadian right? I have to wonder why you would be so supportive of the current U.S. administration. We
(America)are screwing you and yours across a broad spectrum of issues yet you still support the U.S.. Why is that? I'm just curious.

Angst meant at the inequalities of application ( wealth/resources/opportunity/education), not so much at the country.

It did give the Right Wings a soap box to thump, along with righteous indignation over n--i--g--g--e--r (hopefully our over p.c. mod doesn't strike
that from the record) being used in a non-slur fashion, but to it's current vernacular usage.
That they also managed to assert "greatest" & "best" &"most opportunity" ad nasueum, also was a great pick up of your straight line, Webby.

BUT

Don't be a puzzy, stand and deliver - fight to put your country BACK ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
Any spineless cur can turn & run.

Were to restrain ourselves from using the N word. I said it out of anger. It offends others. Thers really no proper context to use it.

I suppose you could say theres a fishy smell coming from our government institutions and the wealthy people subverting the nations lower class to
accomplish its goals. Technically thats still not accurate.

I lack the resources to leave now. I been in other 3rd world countris that are much better than America. Simpley because people breast feed their
kids in public but more than that. People in other countries still goto church and belive in things. Governments in foriegn countries lack the
widespread government control and power to constantly medle in peoples live. Except to tax them but to be fair people in other countrys get free
health care. Even if its not a good thing. Its better than losing your home and everything to cancer or some health melady. The truth is we should
haev a cure for cancer but its cost prohibitive because companys havent made their investments back from Slash and burn treatments. How truly sad.

That this countrys cure for social cancer is cut and burn. Social cancer can be cured with human love and individuality. Instead human cancer grows
and feeds on human indifference, apathy, ciggerrettes and electronic radiation.

If things get much worse in Amerika, we will all be fighting. For our lives.

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