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Estate Settlement: Reading the Will Is Not What You Expect

For the next week (or two), we’ll be sharing “audition” pieces from folks interested in being new staff writers at Get Rich Slowly. Your job is to let us know what you think of each of these writers. Pay attention, give feedback, and after a couple of weeks we’ll ask which writers you prefer. This article is from Jennifer Rose Hale. Jennifer’s first audition piece was about what to expect when settling an estate.

Big life experiences: If you haven’t been through them, I wrote earlier, then images from movies and TV will shape your expectations and may leave you confused. No, you (or your partner) won’t give birth on an elevator or in the backseat of Brooklyn taxi accompanied by a witty but kindhearted cabbie.

And, chances are, in estate settlement, you won’t experience scenes like the two pop-culture references that came to my mind in younger years:

Jane Eyre (or anyone in pretty much any novel or movie ever) surprised by a long-lost relative leaving her a fortune.

Christina Crawford in the camp classic “Mommie Dearest,” shock frozen on her face as she learns, from mother Joan’s will, that she’s been completely disinherited.

Yes, I’m female. Still, no matter your gender, chances are you can picture your own television or movie scenes, grieving family crowded into a wood-paneled office, either satisfied or shocked by what they’re hearing. (In a soap opera, this is usually where the never-acknowledged son or daughter comes out of the woodwork.)

Last message from Dad
As I described earlier, the first communication I received from the attorneys representing the trust was a legal document I was expected to sign — but didn’t. After my siblings and I returned the forms, we received an email from the firm’s representative, introducing himself and expressing sympathy for our loss.

A few weeks later, I got a large envelope in the mail with a copy of the will. (For those who commented on this after the previous piece: No, it didn’t arrive immediately, and we had to pointedly ask for it to find out when to expect it.) I took one look at the envelope, set it carefully on the table and made dinner for my little boy. After he was in bed, I poured a glass of wine, gritted my teeth and finally started reading at the dining table.

No wood-paneled office, no gasps of surprise … but still one of the weirder experiences of my life. It felt like hearing my dad’s voice, but filtered through a cold interpreter who only has an outdated grasp of English — a more severe Shakespeare.

Everyone has a “crumpled second page”
Setting aside movie comparisons, one of the issues most families will struggle with is secrecy — for many reasons, children don’t want to talk to parents about money. I discovered in the early weeks of this process that my siblings and I had different levels of understanding about Dad’s plans, and that my older siblings, who knew more, were still hamstrung by out-of-date information — plans Dad made that later changed or just vague descriptions of assets that are now proving difficult to track down.

One conversation with the attorneys turned up a “crumpled second page” of a life insurance policy, creating a need for legal detective work. (If you looked in your filing cabinet now, do you think you’d have something equivalent to a crumpled second page of something? I know I would. Dave Ramsey writes about organizing documents for your loved ones in a Legacy Drawer.)

Plan A: “Don’t die”
I can understand why the secrecy — or at least reluctance to have the conversation — happens. I created a will after my son was born, making the big choice, among others, about who would get custody of my son in the event of my passing. These are choices I don’t necessarily want to have to explain or defend to anyone not named in my plans.

I’m also hoping it’s all moot and we never have to implement “Plan B.” (As I always say, “Plan A is ‘Don’t die.’”)

We also, of course, don’t want to think about dying (see “Plan A”), and we certainly don’t want to suggest to our older relatives that we think about their ends. It’s an awkward conversation to have. I will join the chorus of voices advising you to have the conversation about estate planning, no matter how awkward.

The big reveal
You can understand why I won’t go into details about what my dad had or what he left; I know J.D. has worked through his own issues about what to share and not share publicly, and I have my own privacy as well as my family’s to consider and respect.

I ended up reading through the multiple estate documents once that night — and again the next day. Just like with Shakespeare, eventually I got it. And what the paperwork left me with was a sense that Dad had done a Herculean job of being equitable — to his wife (our stepmother), my three siblings and me. He was pretty smart with his money throughout his adult life, and he was smart with it at his passing.

It was also, strangely, sweet. While some assets exist in the trust, certain items are to be disbursed through the will — special coins he purchased (one for each child, of course), a car, a boat … and two electric bicycles. I remember hearing about the coins from my stepmother, and the bicycles, which he was quite proud of, from my dad.

The will, though, only answered a few questions, and three months later, we’re still looking for all the answers.

I think in many cases the older siblings are the ones who tend to have more of the parents trust. In a way they generally gave older siblings more responsibility to “watch” their younger siblings, do a lionshare of chores, etc. In addition the older sibling often carries more implied authority than the younger ones (i.e. they are the ones the parents likely put in charge of the family when they are not present), so there is less likely to be bickering (or the parent making the will may feel like that should be the case). Also, dependant on the generation or culture, some folks are just hung up on the oldest child taking on that responsibility. In the end though it often depends on when the will was written or updated and who is close to the parents, both physically and emotionally, at that time.

It could be because they asked…I know I’m the only sibling in my family who has straightforwardly asked my parents what they are planning to do, and had suggestions as to what they could do differently. My Mom is pretty open about things, but my Dad tends to change his mind and not tell her – which can lead to difficulties, unless you expect it.

The post is titled, “Reading the will is not what you expect” and the last paragraph is titled “The big reveal” and then…nothing happened. The writer is not sharing what the will says and implies that the contents were actually UNsurprising. Where’s the drama?

I think she was right to point out that reading wills are pretty mundane after all, even if entertainment media does its best to convey that it’s associated with drama. Same with pregnancy and birth, by the way.

The choice to break this article up into three pieces was deeply flawed. I’m sorry, but this reads as filler. Entirely filler. This piece didn’t answer any of the lingering questions from the first article. I had two questions from the previous piece. 1) I wanted to know what happened when you didn’t sign the paper, and 2) I wanted to know what happens as far as the rest of the estate settlement.

I don’t need to know exactly what you received and how you did so, but this portion of the article does not move this story forward.

I was really interested in the next portion of this piece, and I have to say I’m pretty disappointed.

I’ll try to come back with more constructive criticisms later on, but I’m sort on time (and a bit annoyed).

Not only is this series flawed for being divided in 3, but it also feels pointless. We’re not actually going to learn anything. We’re not learning anything about how to make wills, how to deal with the family tensions, etc, nor are we learning much about her story in particular. Did the inheritance change her life? How did she handle the money? Did she learn any valuable lessons?

So far, there’s been nothing. I’m sorry to be harsh, but what is the point of this series?

My husband or I has received an inheritance a total of three times. Once I got a check for $1000 from a grandfather. Another time, we got a joint check for $4800 when my deceased mother inlaw’s house sold. And finally we got a surprise check in the mail when a spinster friend of my husband’s family left him a little more than $9000.

Anyway, maybe because the amounts are small but I never saw or heard the wills. Possibly (I can’t recall) we saw my mother in law’s while cleaning out her home but that will amounted to all her assets should be equally divided among her children and their spouses. And all she owned was a house in a less than safe neighborhood. After paying for the funeral and the house cleanout, $4800 was all that was left to distribute.

“Big life experiences: If you haven’t been through them, I wrote earlier, then images from movies and TV will shape your expectations and may leave you confused.”

No, actually, they won’t. Television and movies are not reality, and anyone who gets them confused with reality probably should not be writing a blog that is supposed to be on a practical matter (i.e., personal finance).

I agree with everyone that says that this piece was just fluffy filler and that breaking it down into three separate entries was a mistake.

I don’t think anyone expects things to move along like a movie. According to the writer, she received the will, read it and found it to be fair and equitable. That’s wonderful, except for one thing: How is that helpful to the rest of us seeking real financial information? Nothing learned here.

I have to say I’m a little disappointed in this article. I read the first article with to be continued teaser, and really not much here. I was hoping for conversations regarding if there was a mother in law, whether the will differed depending on who died first (Dad or step mom), whether there were any disagreements/disappointments or contesting of the will, whether the will specified burial preferences or what should be done if it doesn’t, and whether the writer felt it was more beneficial for items to be disbursed via a will, or beforehand in person.

First, I don’t feel like I can give you a full overview right now because I haven’t seen the entire piece. If some of this is addressed later on, then feel free to ignore it.

The title states, “reading the will is not what you expect”. I think all of the examples and analogies given could be compressed into about a paragraph. I think the goal was to show that it’s all pretty mundane. So, to do that, I would think 3 examples or so would work–you could use the movie thing, how everyone aims for “Plan A”, and how “Plan B”, if not done well, makes a bad time harder. That can all be scrunched into a paragraph (main idea–wills are pretty mundane).

Then, you mention that you will join the chorus of people advising everyone to talk to their parents about estate plans. This would be a good paragraph on its own–you could mention a few specific (but not personally revealing) details that could have been avoided if you (or your siblings) had completed that discussion. I’m thinking of things like what you mentioned on the “crumpled second page”.

After that, I would mention the glass of wine and the will if you want to. I’m pretty neutral on its inclusion–it’s a personal story, and it’s a personal touch, but at the same time it doesn’t really advance the idea. It’s also a good opportunity to look at the writer and get a personal feel for how that person is and thinks.

Finally, I would probably tie the last portion of this article in after that.

I think this review is a little better than my first.

I did like the imagery of the “crumpled second page” and I could relate to that. I also liked how you mention how you felt everything should be more dramatic, but it’s not–it’s just normal. I thought that was a nice way to see a bit of your personality (some people, no matter how normal something is, will find drama).

Really liked the first article. I don’t think the cliffhanger was a good move in this case though…now the third installment better be mind-blowing.

Still, an interesting piece overall. The bit about the crumpled second page is very true.

Its kind of like the “wallet audit” that J.D. recommended a while ago. We THINK everything is taken care of but there is always a few loose ends that people tend to forget. The effect of “forgetting” that item will cost us when shit hits the fan.

My Mom wrote her Will years ago when she was mad at my brother and I. Not that there was anything to leave, as she had bankrupted herself financially and morally to support my other brother, the now deceased drug addict/alcoholic/criminal. She left her heavily mortgaged house to my spendthrift/lottery ticket addicted unemployed sister in a life estate (so long as she can afford it, she can live in it). She ALSO left her a $100,000 life insurance policy, to be placed in trust to be used for the care and maintenance of that house during my sister’s occupancy.

Oh, yeah, you know what’s coming next.

In the last few years Mom lightened up and in her last months I was made responsible for a lot of her care. Mom died last summer. That $100,000 was gone before Christmas. And the Will was never even probated.

Now you’re going to say I should consult a lawyer. I’m a paralegal and work for an estate attorney.

Sounds like you had a great dad! I know we’ll all have to deal with this some day and hopefully everyone will have a will to guide them. I believe both of our parents have a will, but I think it will take a lot of time to sort through the assets and documents.

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