At 9/18/2012 10:21:59 PM, phantom wrote:Thetts post in the other thread reminded me of this.

Why on earth is Sieben still banned? It's been over a year and what got him banned was him trying to get himself banned (therefore not his usual behavior).

He was admittedly a huge dick a lot but still a very intelligent person. I don't know if he'd want to come back but why is his account still closed?

On a scale of 1 to Izbo how much of a dick was he?

That depends. He was much more intelligent than Izbo therefore could be a much bigger dick than him since he could completely humiliate a person. But he mainly focused it towards idiots, trolls, and intellectually dishonest people unlike izbo. Though admittedly he was often unjustified in his attacks.

I don't know a whole lot actually though.

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At 9/18/2012 10:21:59 PM, phantom wrote:Thetts post in the other thread reminded me of this.

Why on earth is Sieben still banned? It's been over a year and what got him banned was him trying to get himself banned (therefore not his usual behavior).

He was admittedly a huge dick a lot but still a very intelligent person. I don't know if he'd want to come back but why is his account still closed?

On a scale of 1 to Izbo how much of a dick was he?

That depends. He was much more intelligent than Izbo therefore could be a much bigger dick than him since he could completely humiliate a person. But he mainly focused it towards idiots, trolls, and intellectually dishonest people unlike izbo. Though admittedly he was often unjustified in his attacks.

At 9/18/2012 10:21:59 PM, phantom wrote:Thetts post in the other thread reminded me of this.

Why on earth is Sieben still banned? It's been over a year and what got him banned was him trying to get himself banned (therefore not his usual behavior).

He was admittedly a huge dick a lot but still a very intelligent person. I don't know if he'd want to come back but why is his account still closed?

On a scale of 1 to Izbo how much of a dick was he?

That depends. He was much more intelligent than Izbo therefore could be a much bigger dick than him since he could completely humiliate a person. But he mainly focused it towards idiots, trolls, and intellectually dishonest people unlike izbo. Though admittedly he was often unjustified in his attacks.

I don't know a whole lot actually though.

How did he completely humiliate a person? (I know that, according to Innomen, he was very...useful with the truth in disarming his opponents. Perhaps you--or anyone else--could elaborate on this admittedly vague description of his tactics.)

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Back a while ago, we had a lot of problems with trolls and spam accounts, and moderation was practically nonexistent. Juggle basically acted like this site didn't exist (unlike now). So Askbob and Sieben concocted the idea for the most intelligent people on the site to leave in protest. Sieben was banned for making an alternate forum for them to go to and advertising it here. Apparently you're not allowed to do that.

I freaking loved Sieben. He's probably my favorite member who's not here. He was an a$$hole for sure, but I loved how, uh, creative he got with his insults. He got into a bunch of flame wars with people and wasn't afraid to call people's BS. He was also pretty smart.

As I recall he wasn't banned, he left thinking he was onto something better. If he was banned then the departure was certainly neutral because he gave everybody the "Fvuck you" on the way out and even changed his avatar to match.

At 9/18/2012 10:59:47 PM, BlackVoid wrote:I freaking loved Sieben. He's probably my favorite member who's not here. He was an a$$hole for sure, but I loved how, uh, creative he got with his insults. He got into a bunch of flame wars with people and wasn't afraid to call people's BS. He was also pretty smart.

Sieben feared me, and now after all that has been done and said,you know why.

At 9/18/2012 10:21:59 PM, phantom wrote:Thetts post in the other thread reminded me of this.

Why on earth is Sieben still banned? It's been over a year and what got him banned was him trying to get himself banned (therefore not his usual behavior).

He was admittedly a huge dick a lot but still a very intelligent person. I don't know if he'd want to come back but why is his account still closed?

On a scale of 1 to Izbo how much of a dick was he?

0.86 Izbo.

In that case, forget about it. lol.

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At 9/19/2012 11:49:00 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:I can tell you that Sieben probably wouldn't return even if he was unbanned. Put it up in the DDO Facebook group, and ask him yourself.

You're probably right but I still think Juggle should reopen his account.

Sieben has already stopped here before under another name, and he has been watching at one time or another.................But he does not really want to return here to DDO, because the status quo would never appreciate his antics again.He was the ultimate an capitalist and rebel.He spat in the face of authority, and he was remotely feared by them.He was his own demise, and that was due to his arrogance and unyielding pride.There will never be another like him ever again................

It's a perpetual problem with ancaps. They refuse to speak English and are perpetually upset that no one understands them. The ancap exodus moved them to their own site, where, when I looked, they were mainly swapping recipes.

At 9/19/2012 12:16:01 PM, RoyLatham wrote:It's a perpetual problem with ancaps. They refuse to speak English and are perpetually upset that no one understands them. The ancap exodus moved them to their own site, where, when I looked, they were mainly swapping recipes.

So it's not that we're wrong, just that you're too stupid to understand us? Good to know.

At 9/19/2012 12:16:01 PM, RoyLatham wrote:It's a perpetual problem with ancaps. They refuse to speak English and are perpetually upset that no one understands them. The ancap exodus moved them to their own site, where, when I looked, they were mainly swapping recipes.

So it's not that we're wrong, just that you're too stupid to understand us? Good to know.

Compare it to the postmodern movement. It's a combination of talking past people and using language gratuitously creatively. Simples.

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At 9/19/2012 12:16:01 PM, RoyLatham wrote:It's a perpetual problem with ancaps. They refuse to speak English and are perpetually upset that no one understands them. The ancap exodus moved them to their own site, where, when I looked, they were mainly swapping recipes.

So it's not that we're wrong, just that you're too stupid to understand us? Good to know.

Compare it to the postmodern movement. It's a combination of talking past people and using language gratuitously creatively. Simples.

>The State is unnecessary and there are voluntaristic ways of carrying out its traditional functions.>"What the fvck are you talking 'bout oh ma gawd speak Engrish!"

Sieben is a classic example of a member whose purpose on the site seems nothing but to wreck its quality. His personal attacks mostly consisted of low-quality terms like "retard." If one cannot resist attacking, he should at least use a smarter method.

He attempted to victimize any opponent in his discussions, while covering up all his weak spots. If his argument was blasted off, he'd derail the discussion into completely meaningless exchanges of words. That's not funny, it's stupid.

I happened to have been snared by some of his time-wasting discussions, and many debate challenges (including live debate through Skype), he never wanted to accept. Of course, I happened to be the coward and retard.

At 9/19/2012 1:05:00 PM, Mirza wrote:Sieben is a classic example of a member whose purpose on the site seems nothing but to wreck its quality. His personal attacks mostly consisted of low-quality terms like "retard." If one cannot resist attacking, he should at least use a smarter method.

He attempted to victimize any opponent in his discussions, while covering up all his weak spots. If his argument was blasted off, he'd derail the discussion into completely meaningless exchanges of words. That's not funny, it's stupid.

I happened to have been snared by some of his time-wasting discussions, and many debate challenges (including live debate through Skype), he never wanted to accept. Of course, I happened to be the coward and retard.

No need to worship him. Get over yourselves.

I agree. I really hate to see what happens to this place if and when Im gone.I see a statue being raised. =)

At 9/19/2012 12:16:01 PM, RoyLatham wrote:It's a perpetual problem with ancaps. They refuse to speak English and are perpetually upset that no one understands them. The ancap exodus moved them to their own site, where, when I looked, they were mainly swapping recipes.

So it's not that we're wrong, just that you're too stupid to understand us? Good to know.

Compare it to the postmodern movement. It's a combination of talking past people and using language gratuitously creatively. Simples.

>The State is unnecessary and there are voluntaristic ways of carrying out its traditional functions.>"What the fvck are you talking 'bout oh ma gawd speak Engrish!"