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Running the line forward instead of laterally increase the 'prevention' - my boom can not shift aftward at all. Running the another line aft allows me to fine tune fore and aft.
As rigged, the boom simply can not move irregardless of what the wind is doing.
I also trust my cleat more than my stanchions/toe rail to handle the load of 340 sq feet of mainsail (about 600 pounds at 20 knts)- more when you figure the shock load). PCI says they are back plated/safe, but I've seen the underside (don't ask me why, it's embarassing) and they are NOT. They have nuts, washers, and lots of 5200, but not plates.

Chuckles,
Thanks. I've got mid-ship cleats that I could possible use instead of the rail. I'll have to check that out. Good point.

02-05-2008 11:06 AM

sailingdog

If you want to see a photo of the boom brake setup on my boat, let me know.

02-05-2008 11:02 AM

chucklesR

Running the line forward instead of laterally increase the 'prevention' - my boom can not shift aftward at all. Running the another line aft allows me to fine tune fore and aft.
As rigged, the boom simply can not move irregardless of what the wind is doing.
I also trust my cleat more than my stanchions/toe rail to handle the load of 340 sq feet of mainsail (about 600 pounds at 20 knts)- more when you figure the shock load). PCI says they are back plated/safe, but I've seen the underside (don't ask me why, it's embarassing) and they are NOT. They have nuts, washers, and lots of 5200, but not plates.

02-05-2008 10:49 AM

sailingdog

Yes, the dutchman, once it is properly adjusted for the wind strength is basically a set and forget device. The main sail will come across the boat, unlike a boom rigged with a preventer, but it will do so in a relatively slow and controlled fashion, where no damage to people and rigging will occur. It also makes it very unlikely that the mainsail will capsize the boat, which can happen with a preventer that isn't released in time.

If you increase the tension on the Dutchman, the boom will effectively be slowed to the point that it might as well be on a preventer. But I generally don't recommend tensioning the boom brakeline that much... it really isn't necessary.

I've been using a preventer where I rig a block on a wire pennant to a forward cleat, run a line from the end of the boom to the block and then back to a winch. That keeps the main pulled forward and unable to accidentally jibe, then sometimes I run a line from the aft of the boom to an aft cleat to completely stabilize the boom/main (light and or puffy winds).

SD, is the dutchman better than that? I ask you 'cus you know my boat well enough to answer, and have a dutchman. I rigged my own because I wanted prevent, not brake - but it's a real hassle when I do want to jibe (have to re-rig it all over again).

I've been using a preventer where I rig a block on a wire pennant to a forward cleat, run a line from the end of the boom to the block and then back to a winch. That keeps the main pulled forward and unable to accidentally jibe, then sometimes I run a line from the aft of the boom to an aft cleat to completely stabilize the boom/main (light and or puffy winds).

SD, is the dutchman better than that? I ask you 'cus you know my boat well enough to answer, and have a dutchman. I rigged my own because I wanted prevent, not brake - but it's a real hassle when I do want to jibe (have to re-rig it all over again).

Chuckles,
Just curious why you run your preventer line forward. I've been running mine to snatch blocks on the toe rail near the aft shroud. Not a big deal to re-rig but no braking action like the Dutchman provides. Getting close to ordering the Dutchman but one things keeps gnawing at me. I don't have a lot of space between the boom and cabin top. If I attach the vang to the bottom of the Dutchman as their installation guide shows it seems to me I've really reduced the vang angle to the point where it would not be very effective. Maybe I'm missing something.

02-05-2008 10:01 AM

soulesailor

Thanks for the link, John. It's pretty clear to me how these work now. I have the same set up as you, Chuckles...can't wait to see what the dog has to say. I also googled 'boom brake' and ended up at sailingdog's blog! Neat.

02-05-2008 09:56 AM

chucklesR

I've been using a preventer where I rig a block on a wire pennant to a forward cleat, run a line from the end of the boom to the block and then back to a winch. That keeps the main pulled forward and unable to accidentally jibe, then sometimes I run a line from the aft of the boom to an aft cleat to completely stabilize the boom/main (light and or puffy winds).

SD, is the dutchman better than that? I ask you 'cus you know my boat well enough to answer, and have a dutchman. I rigged my own because I wanted prevent, not brake - but it's a real hassle when I do want to jibe (have to re-rig it all over again).