Gillis lacks the Paul Holmgren balls to make a bold move this team needs.

Holmgren sees his team get whacked in the first round of the playoffs after going to Lord Stanley the previous the year, what does he do? He trades the two biggest faces of the organization in Carter and Richards. That is exactly what Gillis should have done. This team has been in need of a serious change to the core group for a long time, he's let this Luongo thing go on way too long. It's becoming a circus, side show distraction like the team is held in limbo knowing a change is about to come. Make the fucking trade and get on with it. It's like we are in wait mode here. Waiting for the new arrivals and the departing of Luongo, it's fucking weird to be honest. I am at the point now where I don't fucking care what we get back, even if it's a bag of fucking pucks for fuck sakes.

"I just want to say one word to you. Just one word. Are you listening? - Plastics." - The Graduate

No shit.....he is licking his lips thinking of all the vitriol he can spew about Gillis, Kassian, Ballard, Booth, Kesler, Garrison, Malhotra, Higins, Weise, Vandermeer, Barker, Alberts, .......did I miss anyone.....yes the Ginger Baby.

The dude needs to head back to his old haunts at the Dufferin and get laid. He's too crabby .

Mason Raymond played pretty good

"I just want to say one word to you. Just one word. Are you listening? - Plastics." - The Graduate

So what don't ya like about this years Canucks? I know you all tow the Gillis company line around here like no other and stand by everything that he does, but seriously, what do you not like what you see with this team top to bottom?

I will say this, I feel bad for the Sedins. They are going to get absolutely pounded by opposing teams this year cause opposing teams know that outside of them, this team is shite at Forward.

"I just want to say one word to you. Just one word. Are you listening? - Plastics." - The Graduate

RoyalDude wrote:I'm sorry guys but this is funny. I love my Canucks, but this is funny.

I just don't get why this city is littered with Canuck fans and Media who somehow think we are an elite club and Stanley Cup favorite. The arrogance of Canuck fans is painful. I honestly see us having a real awful season here, but what would be really icing on the cake is if Gillis panics and sells our 1st round pick for a short term fix.

I tend to agree with the Dude somewhat here. But probably not for his reasons.

I think this team has some very good pieces.....astute observation, I know.....but they lack someone at the helm. We just watched a team that backed their way into the President's trophy in 2011/12 and got absolutely whacked in back-to-back playoff rounds by teams (Boston and LA) that play defense designed to shutdown exactly the kind of offense that the Canucks bring to the ice.....well we watched them take almost 9 months off during the lockout only to come back and play exactly the same style and setup that got them spanked into next season by the Bruins and Kings. It was embarrassing. Here come the Canucks up the ice, Anaheim stands up at their blueline, drop pass by Vancouver to enter the zone......oh wait a minute, that fooled NOBODY!!!! The Ducks were totally prepared for it! How did they know??????

I know I've beat this horse as much as RD has beat on Booth, Gillis, scouting, Lou, Schneider, Manny......oh right, this list could get long.....but anyways.....but after watching the Leafs/Habs game this afternoon, and then the Canucks/Ducks game, I reflected that the Canadiens and Canucks brought the exact same games to the ice, while the Leafs and the Ducks brought similar games to the ice. The former brought a gain the zone, cycle the puck, overload one side system that generated little in the way of real scoring chances.....and while Vancouver generated shots there was never anyone near the net to pick up the rebounds or put in several easy weak side gimmes that were there for the taking. Montreal was the same, only they got fewer shots to the net due to having almost zero offensive talent to move the puck. The latter, Toronto/Anaheim, brought a quick skating, side to side passing, lane filling, north/south style of hockey that collapsed into the slot on defense and blew the lanes wide open on offense while looking for passes to scoring areas that kept the defense moving and chasing their assignments. The Leafs are lightweights when it comes to the finishing touches, and if not for Price they still could have had 4 or 5 goals. Anaheim has some real finishers though, and they were able to put 7 behind "the best goaltending duo" in the NHL.

So I agree with the Dude. This team is going nowhere fast, especially in the playoffs, and they are not an elite team in the NHL anymore. At least not with Vigneault at the helm.

I know, I know, you are all about to jump on this and say, "FFS Meds! It's just one game!" But I'm just saying that we have not seen anything new from AV, outside of that drop pass in the neutral zone on the rush, in the last 6 years. He hasn't lost the room, but his gameplan has lost its desired effect. It will be especially ineffective if we are indeed watching a return to dead puck hockey.

RoyalDude wrote:So what don't ya like about this years Canucks? I know you all tow the Gillis company line around here like no other and stand by everything that he does, but seriously, what do you not like what you see with this team top to bottom?

I will say this, I feel bad for the Sedins. They are going to get absolutely pounded by opposing teams this year cause opposing teams know that outside of them, this team is shite at Forward.

Kesler can play. But he's hurt.

Booth is still a relative unknown because of injuries.....which means I think we turn the page on him. He's fast, can drive the net, has a decent shot, but can't pass worth shit and is always hurt. Stick him on LTIR and be done with it for this year.

Burrows is a gamer. Among the best two-way forwards in the league.

Hansen is a great grinding winger who can play both ends of the ice. Solid 3rd liner who can bump up to the top 6.

Higgins is a middle 6 guy. But not going to carry a line without Kesler.

Lap is a good 4th line center who can fill in on the 3rd line.

Kassian may or may not develop. Time will tell.

Raymond can go.

Weise is a plug.

Ebbet is too small.

Volpatti is too small for his role.

Team needs some players who can control the puck and skate and make plays rather than just dump it around the boards. But I'm reserving judgement on a few these guys until we see a new gameplan. I actually think Raymond might do well, like Grabner did, with a differnet approach to offense from his coach.

Just a sad, sad effort tonight. Did not expect Cory to shit the bed in his first game. Expected some rough nights but not opening night. It was hard to watch, well until it was 5-2 then I didn't watch anymore.

I agree with Meds, we have not had intensity for some time now and it wasn't there tonight. We found out proof positive last season that there is not switch the team can turn on and off. This will be a very short season if the team expects to play like this and make the playoffs. I know, I know its only one game but as Meds said it is more systemic than just one game.

Hockey Widow wrote:Just a sad, sad effort tonight. Did not expect Cory to shit the bed in his first game. Expected some rough nights but not opening night. It was hard to watch, well until it was 5-2 then I didn't watch anymore.

I agree with Meds, we have not had intensity for some time now and it wasn't there tonight. We found out proof positive last season that there is not switch the team can turn on and off. This will be a very short season if the team expects to play like this and make the playoffs. I know, I know its only one game but as Meds said it is more systemic than just one game.

God help me when the voice of reason starts sounding like the Dude!!

Not to worry HW.....the voice of reason doesn't sound anything like the Dude. The voice if reason in this case is looking at the last 6 years of Vigneault coached Canucks and saying that there is a common trend that is evidence based. The Dude, as Doc so eloquently pointed out in another thread, raves at random and flips up, down, and over again, whenever they adjust his dosage. There is rarely any real evidence to support his ranting.

One game down and Ginger shit the bed. It is one game and that is it. What a bunch of cry babies here. No forwards, no intensity, no guts. I am a fan and not a critic. I will leave that to the DB's who write for Van hockey in the so-called newspapers. Go Canucks!