I haven't slept in like 21 hours so I'm not really sure what I'm confused about also I completely forgot about this post after reading it and then proceeded to stare blankly at the ceiling for 10 minutes.

Then it has been always bugged and i'm sorry but it's not inferior for enhanc/ele, i agree its inferior for resto tho.

It is inferior. At 500k health, which is what I assume we'll be near with full gear, NG is a 125k heal that can be activated while stunned/silenced every 30 seconds.

Stone Bulwark is great if you're going to reset your totems to use it twice in a row and are playing against a comp that relies on bursting you down. Outside of that, NG is better in nearly every case especially against teams that will CC you while they kill you (or kill the totem).

Enhances stone bulwark does NOT shield for 133k, maybe 85k at most initially and that's a totem (will be replaced if you need to drop earthbind or tremor) and it's on a 1 minute cooldown. It can also be purged, NG can't.

It is inferior. At 500k health, which is what I assume we'll be near with full gear, NG is a 125k heal that can be activated while stunned/silenced every 30 seconds.

Stone Bulwark is great if you're going to reset your totems to use it twice in a row and are playing against a comp that relies on bursting you down. Outside of that, NG is better in nearly every case especially against teams that will CC you while they kill you (or kill the totem).

Enhances stone bulwark does NOT shield for 133k, maybe 75k at most initially and that's a totem (will be replaced if you need to drop earthbind or tremor) and it's on a 1 minute cooldown.

Well you do have a point, but you still have to consider the absorbs every 5s and the amount pvp power increases it aswell.

I've been seeing some enhances using it at 2.2k+ and all the Eles are using it, so i guess it's something that should be fixed.

Well you do have a point, but you still have to consider the absorbs every 5s and the amount pvp power increases it aswell.

I've been seeing some enhances using it at 2.2k+ and all the Eles are using it, so i guess it's something that should be fixed.

I've used it too, it just depends on the teams you're facing and what you're playing. If the game isn't going to go very long or the team your fighting relies on pressure a lot then SBT may be better; but in terms of overall output NG is still better.

I guess what i'm saying is.. SBT may be bugged but even in it's bugged state its still debatable that it's even better than NG at all. If it were to be hit by battle fatigue it might as well be removed as a talent (again).

I guess what i'm saying is.. SBT may be bugged but even in it's bugged state its still debatable that it's even better than NG at all. If it were to be hit by battle fatigue it might as well be removed as a talent (again).

Flameglow, ice barrier and angelic bulwark are all talents off the top of my head that have their arena viability slaughtered by battle fatigue, and if you ask some dks nicely you might get some view about how battle fatigue affects anti-magic shell

It's bugged and 50% more effective in arena then it should be, so a fix would be nice

Edited by Dizzeeyo, 13 November 2013 - 12:35 PM.

jaimex, on 12 January 2015 - 10:30 PM, said:

if anyone needs to be banned, it's you. You do nothing but sit on AJ being a passive aggressive idiot that nobody likes, sorry you stink of washing up liquid.

Pouncedd, on 12 June 2014 - 01:51 AM, said:

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper and have looked at the numbers comparatively for almost every class

Jontex, on 23 June 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)

It's really dependent on the situation. NG isn't going to proc every 30 seconds exactly, even if you're being tunneled, while the totem will get most/all of its effect if youre the target, not to mention being able to prep it. At the same time, it's killable and you obviously can't use it while stunned/silenced.

All things considered, I've been amazed watching Cdew survive against kittycleaves, mage/warrior, and mage/rogues lately, and he's been using Bulwalk a lot, so take that as you will.

Regardless of how good/bad it is though, or which talent is better, it's bugged and should be fixed. If after fatigue it's not good enough then buff it, but it shouldn't be left in a bugged state like this.