(04-09-2012 04:31 PM)Red Tornado Wrote: Also, the burden of proof really isn't on us, it's on the people making a claim that a magical Jew sacrificed himself, to himself, for us.

Well, it's not that they need evidence to prove a Jesus existed. They just need to prove that THE Jesus existed. I am sure that you will find that there were many people named Mohammed back in the day. The only trouble is finding out which Mohammed shitted the Qu'ran out.

That's true. Although it shouldn't be too hard to find proof of a magical man who turns water into wine, normally. (But sadly that seems to be the case)

I usually tell theists two things if they want to prove their case to me:

1. Prove that there can be a deity
2. Prove your deity

Bury me with my guns on, so when I reach the other side - I can show him what it feels like to die.
Bury me with my guns on, so when I'm cast out of the sky, I can shoot the devil right between the eyes.

(04-09-2012 04:36 PM)Ambassador of Christ Wrote: Christian do have proof, the bible and faith in a God that does exist. You still show no proof. You go off the words you say from your mouth.

The bible is the voice of Jesus - God himself. He inspired men to write it so people like me and you can know what is right.

2 Tim 3:16

All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right.

Bible is my proof alone with faith. They work together.

Amen. Jesus still love us even if we don't understand.

You've given no proof. You've babbled boring scripture that isn't really related, and we've told you why the bible isn't good evidence, you've acknowledged our position on the bible, and you still babble on.

Maybe instead of wasting our time you be more useful, like find historical proof?

Bury me with my guns on, so when I reach the other side - I can show him what it feels like to die.
Bury me with my guns on, so when I'm cast out of the sky, I can shoot the devil right between the eyes.

(04-09-2012 04:33 PM)Logica Humano Wrote: Well, it's not that they need evidence to prove a Jesus existed. They just need to prove that THE Jesus existed. I am sure that you will find that there were many people named Mohammed back in the day. The only trouble is finding out which Mohammed shitted the Qu'ran out.

That's true. Although it shouldn't be too hard to find proof of a magical man who turns water into wine, normally. (But sadly that seems to be the case)

I usually tell theists two things if they want to prove their case to me:

(04-09-2012 04:33 PM)Logica Humano Wrote: I am sure that you will find that there were many people named Mohammed back in the day. The only trouble is finding out which Mohammed shitted the Qu'ran out.

(04-09-2012 04:36 PM)Red Tornado Wrote: That's true. Although it shouldn't be too hard to find proof of a magical man who turns water into wine, normally. (But sadly that seems to be the case)

I usually tell theists two things if they want to prove their case to me:

1. Prove that there can be a deity
2. Prove your deity

Before you ask those questions, you should establish what a deity is.

A magical flying man in the sky. C:

Bury me with my guns on, so when I reach the other side - I can show him what it feels like to die.
Bury me with my guns on, so when I'm cast out of the sky, I can shoot the devil right between the eyes.