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Let voters decide, demands ousted MP

OUSTED North Yorkshire MP Anne McIntosh has called for a change to party selection rules, in the hope she can stand again as a Conservative.

Earlier this month, the Thirsk and Malton MP – who is Yorkshire’s only female Conservative MP – lost a party ballot on her reselection but vowed to fight on in her seat in the next General Election. She currently has a majority of 11,281.

Miss McIntosh said today that she would accept the deselection decision if an open primary were called to select the Conservative candidate - polling all residents, rather than just party members.

She said she was confident that the “best way forward and the one that will gain the overwhelming support of the members of the association” was to select the Conservative candidate by an open primary, which would enable all voters in the constituency to have a say.

She said: “If it was a genuine open primary whereby all those who are registered and entitled to vote living in Thirsk, Malton and Filey were I submitted to that process were I not to get through then I would accept the result of that process.”

Miss McIntosh said she believed the process which saw her deselected was flawed, and said there were a number of reasons she wanted to fight on.

She said: “The fact the I represented and faithfully served 77,000 constituents the fact that after six-and-a-half week, almost seven week campaign I was retained with over 52.7 per cent share of the vote majority of 11,000 over my nearest rival.

“The fact that we worked together as a fantastic team, that’s what I want to recapture and the opportunity to submit my record to the electorate that elected me in 2010 and it’s for the electorate to dismiss me.”

Umm, interesting!
Today’s news has two items from politicians, one wanting to consult the electorate because she doesn’t like a decision, the other not wanting to consult the electorate in case she doesn’t like the decision.
Was there ever a time when politicians weren’t a bunch of self serving creeps!

Umm, interesting!
Today’s news has two items from politicians, one wanting to consult the electorate because she doesn’t like a decision, the other not wanting to consult the electorate in case she doesn’t like the decision.
Was there ever a time when politicians weren’t a bunch of self serving creeps!Batman Begins

Anne McIntosh was my local MP for many years. She always took my views seriously and forwarded my concerns to relevant Ministers. Once, in reply to one of my letters I even received a personal response from the then Head of the NHS.

She always acted with integrity and without falling into the shadow of party politics.

Anne McIntosh was my local MP for many years. She always took my views seriously and forwarded my concerns to relevant Ministers. Once, in reply to one of my letters I even received a personal response from the then Head of the NHS.
She always acted with integrity and without falling into the shadow of party politics.sjm43

As you'll answer it, take heed
This Slave commit no Violence upon
Himself. I've been deceiv'd. The Publick Safety
Requires he should be more confin'd; and none,
No not the Princes self, permitted to
Confer with him. I'll quit you to the King.
Vile and ingrate! too late thou shalt repent
The base Injustice thou hast done my Love:
Yes, thou shalt know, spite of thy past Distress,
And all those Ills which thou so long hast mourn'd;
Heav'n has no Rage, like Love to Hatred turn'd,
Nor Hell a Fury, like a Woman scorn'd.

William Congreve, in The Mourning Bride, 1697:
As you'll answer it, take heed
This Slave commit no Violence upon
Himself. I've been deceiv'd. The Publick Safety
Requires he should be more confin'd; and none,
No not the Princes self, permitted to
Confer with him. I'll quit you to the King.
Vile and ingrate! too late thou shalt repent
The base Injustice thou hast done my Love:
Yes, thou shalt know, spite of thy past Distress,
And all those Ills which thou so long hast mourn'd;
Heav'n has no Rage, like Love to Hatred turn'd,
Nor Hell a Fury, like a Woman scorn'd.Pedro

Anyone know why the comments have been removed from the article "Dont consult the public any more, says York 20mph campaigner".

This YCC Labour lot make me sick! Cant wait to see the back of them!

Anyone know why the comments have been removed from the article "Dont consult the public any more, says York 20mph campaigner".
This YCC Labour lot make me sick! Cant wait to see the back of them!Woody G Mellor

Woody G Mellor wrote:
Anyone know why the comments have been removed from the article &quot;Dont consult the public any more, says York 20mph campaigner".

This YCC Labour lot make me sick! Cant wait to see the back of them!

Because people had the affront to mention Anna's solar panel selling business and the scandal when she used public money to advertise it and the reprimand she received for not declaring her interest when she became a councillor? If so, it's all a matter of public record and if the Press are worried about libel they should consult their own records on the matter.

Either that or the fact that the vast majority of the 40+ comments (when I last saw them) were scandalised by her arrogant attitude to democracy, and many called for her resignation. But I presume the Press wouldn't pull the comments just for that?

[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote:
Anyone know why the comments have been removed from the article "Dont consult the public any more, says York 20mph campaigner".
This YCC Labour lot make me sick! Cant wait to see the back of them![/p][/quote]Because people had the affront to mention Anna's solar panel selling business and the scandal when she used public money to advertise it and the reprimand she received for not declaring her interest when she became a councillor? If so, it's all a matter of public record and if the Press are worried about libel they should consult their own records on the matter.
Either that or the fact that the vast majority of the 40+ comments (when I last saw them) were scandalised by her arrogant attitude to democracy, and many called for her resignation. But I presume the Press wouldn't pull the comments just for that?Bo Jolly

Woody G Mellor wrote:
Anyone know why the comments have been removed from the article &quot;Dont consult the public any more, says York 20mph campaigner". This YCC Labour lot make me sick! Cant wait to see the back of them!

yes the 20 is plenty crew complained that we voiced our opinions so threw their brown rice out of their prams.....

Apparently the majority were not in favour of a 20mph city.

[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote:
Anyone know why the comments have been removed from the article "Dont consult the public any more, says York 20mph campaigner". This YCC Labour lot make me sick! Cant wait to see the back of them![/p][/quote]yes the 20 is plenty crew complained that we voiced our opinions so threw their brown rice out of their prams.....
Apparently the majority were not in favour of a 20mph city.Archiebold the 1st

Woody G Mellor wrote:
Anyone know why the comments have been removed from the article &quot;Dont consult the public any more, says York 20mph campaigner".

This YCC Labour lot make me sick! Cant wait to see the back of them!

Because that article proves the lady is either an idiot/a liar/barking. They don't want us to be able to call her on her repeated vendetta.
70% of people support the change consistantly apparntly. Even she can't say that with a straight face surely?

[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote:
Anyone know why the comments have been removed from the article "Dont consult the public any more, says York 20mph campaigner".
This YCC Labour lot make me sick! Cant wait to see the back of them![/p][/quote]Because that article proves the lady is either an idiot/a liar/barking. They don't want us to be able to call her on her repeated vendetta.
70% of people support the change consistantly apparntly. Even she can't say that with a straight face surely?AGuyFromStrensall

Woody G Mellor wrote:
Anyone know why the comments have been removed from the article &quot;Dont consult the public any more, says York 20mph campaigner".

This YCC Labour lot make me sick! Cant wait to see the back of them!

They've been removed because we disagree with them!

Unfortunately none of the 3 parties is above reproach, so who do we replace them with?

Governments should be afraid of their people, not people of their governments!

[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote:
Anyone know why the comments have been removed from the article "Dont consult the public any more, says York 20mph campaigner".
This YCC Labour lot make me sick! Cant wait to see the back of them![/p][/quote]They've been removed because we disagree with them!
Unfortunately none of the 3 parties is above reproach, so who do we replace them with?
Governments should be afraid of their people, not people of their governments!Batman Begins

AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
How long do we think it is before these comments go. If they think that Lendal bridge is scandalous, 20s plenty is almost obscene!

but surly there will be another related article up again. the press recycles stories better then grandparents.

it goes in cycles... next there will be another land purchase issue.. then wind turbines. then another letter about lendal. then something to do with a 20mph zone then a counciller taxing us more or wasting our money... then round again.... groundhog day.

[quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote:
How long do we think it is before these comments go. If they think that Lendal bridge is scandalous, 20s plenty is almost obscene![/p][/quote]but surly there will be another related article up again. the press recycles stories better then grandparents.
it goes in cycles... next there will be another land purchase issue.. then wind turbines. then another letter about lendal. then something to do with a 20mph zone then a counciller taxing us more or wasting our money... then round again.... groundhog day.Archiebold the 1st

AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
How long do we think it is before these comments go. If they think that Lendal bridge is scandalous, 20s plenty is almost obscene!

but surly there will be another related article up again. the press recycles stories better then grandparents.

it goes in cycles... next there will be another land purchase issue.. then wind turbines. then another letter about lendal. then something to do with a 20mph zone then a counciller taxing us more or wasting our money... then round again.... groundhog day.

Nah they are scared on 20s plenty comments, because they know that there is pretty much no earthly defence unless you are PP

On the related note may I say how glad I am that AMcI is out. Already posted before on personal experiences what a conceited lady she is.

[quote][p][bold]Archiebold the 1st[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote:
How long do we think it is before these comments go. If they think that Lendal bridge is scandalous, 20s plenty is almost obscene![/p][/quote]but surly there will be another related article up again. the press recycles stories better then grandparents.
it goes in cycles... next there will be another land purchase issue.. then wind turbines. then another letter about lendal. then something to do with a 20mph zone then a counciller taxing us more or wasting our money... then round again.... groundhog day.[/p][/quote]Nah they are scared on 20s plenty comments, because they know that there is pretty much no earthly defence unless you are PP
On the related note may I say how glad I am that AMcI is out. Already posted before on personal experiences what a conceited lady she is.AGuyFromStrensall

If this woman was a man in that constituency she wouldn't have been 'deselected' but welcomed.

Given the average age of a Conservative member is an OAP, it would be several 'men' in high places that decided to 'deselect' her. Poor woman having them to deal with.

Average age of conversatives is let me think over 60+.

Good luck to her as I suspect the Conservatives will turn liberal in that area or UKIP as I certainly would.

If this woman was a man in that constituency she wouldn't have been 'deselected' but welcomed.
Given the average age of a Conservative member is an OAP, it would be several 'men' in high places that decided to 'deselect' her. Poor woman having them to deal with.
Average age of conversatives is let me think over 60+.
Good luck to her as I suspect the Conservatives will turn liberal in that area or UKIP as I certainly would.Digeorge

Digeorge wrote:
If this woman was a man in that constituency she wouldn't have been 'deselected' but welcomed.

Given the average age of a Conservative member is an OAP, it would be several 'men' in high places that decided to 'deselect' her. Poor woman having them to deal with.

Average age of conversatives is let me think over 60+.

Good luck to her as I suspect the Conservatives will turn liberal in that area or UKIP as I certainly would.

NB i'm uffiliated so this isn't anti/pro tory
Having said the above is just hilariuos. Do you genuinely think gender has anything to do with it. Like they just realised after her being a N.Yorkshire MP for over a decade that she was a woman?
Blimey, she's a woman, quickly get her out of here, I never noticed before!

And if you think that area will vote anything other than Tory then you are smoking something....

[quote][p][bold]Digeorge[/bold] wrote:
If this woman was a man in that constituency she wouldn't have been 'deselected' but welcomed.
Given the average age of a Conservative member is an OAP, it would be several 'men' in high places that decided to 'deselect' her. Poor woman having them to deal with.
Average age of conversatives is let me think over 60+.
Good luck to her as I suspect the Conservatives will turn liberal in that area or UKIP as I certainly would.[/p][/quote]NB i'm uffiliated so this isn't anti/pro tory
Having said the above is just hilariuos. Do you genuinely think gender has anything to do with it. Like they just realised after her being a N.Yorkshire MP for over a decade that she was a woman?
Blimey, she's a woman, quickly get her out of here, I never noticed before!
And if you think that area will vote anything other than Tory then you are smoking something....AGuyFromStrensall

don t/won t vote tory,to be honest i can t bring myself to vote for any of the scumbags nowadays but ms mackintosh has been stitched up.when you read the 20 mph article and this one can ahyone really say that we live in a democracy anymore.

don t/won t vote tory,to be honest i can t bring myself to vote for any of the scumbags nowadays but ms mackintosh has been stitched up.when you read the 20 mph article and this one can ahyone really say that we live in a democracy anymore.roskoboskovic

is the article reference to the conservative member/ex member trying to save face/job/career. I personally think its Not a Job for life, get a life and on this "Wanting to know from all electorates, and voters, it sounds like grasping at sodden wet straws. Vote Anne McIntosh, a party of one for one ..

is the article reference to the conservative member/ex member trying to save face/job/career. I personally think its Not a Job for life, get a life and on this "Wanting to know from all electorates, and voters, it sounds like grasping at sodden wet straws. Vote Anne McIntosh, a party of one for one ..Dave Ruddock

I Strangly like the idea of a MP who is actually voted for by her constituents and amazingly represents them regardless of what her parties line is.. still a bit of a ***** that they deselect her for doing what she was elected to do!! Democracy now just seems to be a "buzz" word local councillors and the government like to use.. They all seem to act like mini bloody Hitlers at the moment!

I Strangly like the idea of a MP who is actually voted for by her constituents and amazingly represents them regardless of what her parties line is.. still a bit of a ***** that they deselect her for doing what she was elected to do!! Democracy now just seems to be a "buzz" word local councillors and the government like to use.. They all seem to act like mini bloody Hitlers at the moment!pjr_1984

I think she was deselected for not doing what she was supposed to locally. The forwarding of letters to other departments will be done by her assistants/aides not her. She should go quietly, an open primary would be very expensive I guess, we have a rurally deprived/tiny constituency to whom national policy often jars we need someone in our corner not someone who wants a safe seat while they pursue top jobs.

I think she was deselected for not doing what she was supposed to locally. The forwarding of letters to other departments will be done by her assistants/aides not her. She should go quietly, an open primary would be very expensive I guess, we have a rurally deprived/tiny constituency to whom national policy often jars we need someone in our corner not someone who wants a safe seat while they pursue top jobs.Roger S

"And if you think that area will vote anything other than Tory then you are smoking something…."

They have been Liberal once and could be said at times to be marginal.

I will put on my 'posh' Ryedale accent and suspect I know which 'faction' has done this and who But won't name names.

Yes, I do believe that it is because she is a woman. Did I say 'posh' voice give you a hint? It is very male dominated upper class association and hunting will be part of the reason and spending less time in Malton.

I used to be a Conservative and went to the AGM a few years back, I was the youngest in the room aged 40. The average age was over 70! Would I vote for her?

"And if you think that area will vote anything other than Tory then you are smoking something…."
They have been Liberal once and could be said at times to be marginal.
I will put on my 'posh' Ryedale accent and suspect I know which 'faction' has done this and who But won't name names.
Yes, I do believe that it is because she is a woman. Did I say 'posh' voice give you a hint? It is very male dominated upper class association and hunting will be part of the reason and spending less time in Malton.
I used to be a Conservative and went to the AGM a few years back, I was the youngest in the room aged 40. The average age was over 70! Would I vote for her?Digeorge

This lady is so arrogant it's untrue. Her track record of ignoring debate goes before her,. It's no wonder she has had glasses of tetleys poured over her. 77,000 people didn't vote for her. Those who voted Tory in this constituency would probably vote in a deranged monkey if t stood in blue at a general election. She ignores her electorate and now she is trying to ignore the rules that she accepted when she stood for her party.

I wish she would crawl away and let a decent mp serve the area. We used to be "served" by La McIntosh and she was rude and arrogant. We were moved into Julian Sturdy's constituency and he is so different.

This lady needs serious help! She is deluded. No one cares what she thinks..... Now she knows how the voters feel.

This lady is so arrogant it's untrue. Her track record of ignoring debate goes before her,. It's no wonder she has had glasses of tetleys poured over her. 77,000 people didn't vote for her. Those who voted Tory in this constituency would probably vote in a deranged monkey if t stood in blue at a general election. She ignores her electorate and now she is trying to ignore the rules that she accepted when she stood for her party.
I wish she would crawl away and let a decent mp serve the area. We used to be "served" by La McIntosh and she was rude and arrogant. We were moved into Julian Sturdy's constituency and he is so different.
This lady needs serious help! She is deluded. No one cares what she thinks..... Now she knows how the voters feel.Pmlwdw

Anne McIntosh was ELECTED in 2010 by 20,167 out of 77,000 registered voters in Thirsk and Malton - just 26% of them!

But she was SELECTED as candidate for the seat in 2006 by
only about 200 Conservative members. About the same number of members voted to keep her as candidate in 2009, and again in 2014 when they were
decisively outvoted by members who exercised their right to DESELECT her.

In general elections, the vast majority of voters vote for their party of
choice, not for the individual candidate. There is no evidence that Anne
carries a significant personal vote among the wider electorate, and no
reason why she should be allowed to overturn her own party's democratic
selection process.

Anne McIntosh was ELECTED in 2010 by 20,167 out of 77,000 registered voters in Thirsk and Malton - just 26% of them!
But she was SELECTED as candidate for the seat in 2006 by
only about 200 Conservative members. About the same number of members voted to keep her as candidate in 2009, and again in 2014 when they were
decisively outvoted by members who exercised their right to DESELECT her.
In general elections, the vast majority of voters vote for their party of
choice, not for the individual candidate. There is no evidence that Anne
carries a significant personal vote among the wider electorate, and no
reason why she should be allowed to overturn her own party's democratic
selection process.MaltonRes2013

Woody G Mellor wrote:
Anyone know why the comments have been removed from the article &quot;Dont consult the public any more, says York 20mph campaigner".

This YCC Labour lot make me sick! Cant wait to see the back of them!

No I don't guess you can't comment on them! Maybe I should take a picture of our 20 mph sign on our Estate and send them into the Press for comment. How many miles per hour Anne Reid can you go on this Estate - the Estate you remember happens to be very twisty that you twice in 2000 got resurfaced and also street lighted and came round to people's houses - yes that Estate! Given that you physically have to stop at the mini-roundabout twist the car and then commence down a cul-de-sac before stopping at a house!!

As for Julian Sturdy, he has been very supportive to us!

Woody G Mellor wrote:
Anyone know why the comments have been removed from the article "Dont consult the public any more, says York 20mph campaigner".
This YCC Labour lot make me sick! Cant wait to see the back of them!
No I don't guess you can't comment on them! Maybe I should take a picture of our 20 mph sign on our Estate and send them into the Press for comment. How many miles per hour Anne Reid can you go on this Estate - the Estate you remember happens to be very twisty that you twice in 2000 got resurfaced and also street lighted and came round to people's houses - yes that Estate! Given that you physically have to stop at the mini-roundabout twist the car and then commence down a cul-de-sac before stopping at a house!!
As for Julian Sturdy, he has been very supportive to us!Digeorge

Digeorge wrote:
&quot;And if you think that area will vote anything other than Tory then you are smoking something…."

They have been Liberal once and could be said at times to be marginal.

I will put on my 'posh' Ryedale accent and suspect I know which 'faction' has done this and who But won't name names.

Yes, I do believe that it is because she is a woman. Did I say 'posh' voice give you a hint? It is very male dominated upper class association and hunting will be part of the reason and spending less time in Malton.

I used to be a Conservative and went to the AGM a few years back, I was the youngest in the room aged 40. The average age was over 70! Would I vote for her?

How the hell will hunting be part of the reason?

She's a pro bloodsports homophobic bigot, you can't get more tory than that.

Good riddance to her and hopefully she will drag the local tories down with her :)

[quote][p][bold]Digeorge[/bold] wrote:
"And if you think that area will vote anything other than Tory then you are smoking something…."
They have been Liberal once and could be said at times to be marginal.
I will put on my 'posh' Ryedale accent and suspect I know which 'faction' has done this and who But won't name names.
Yes, I do believe that it is because she is a woman. Did I say 'posh' voice give you a hint? It is very male dominated upper class association and hunting will be part of the reason and spending less time in Malton.
I used to be a Conservative and went to the AGM a few years back, I was the youngest in the room aged 40. The average age was over 70! Would I vote for her?[/p][/quote]How the hell will hunting be part of the reason?
She's a pro bloodsports homophobic bigot, you can't get more tory than that.
Good riddance to her and hopefully she will drag the local tories down with her :)twotonethomas

Pmlwdw wrote:
This lady is so arrogant it's untrue. Her track record of ignoring debate goes before her,. It's no wonder she has had glasses of tetleys poured over her. 77,000 people didn't vote for her. Those who voted Tory in this constituency would probably vote in a deranged monkey if t stood in blue at a general election. She ignores her electorate and now she is trying to ignore the rules that she accepted when she stood for her party.

I wish she would crawl away and let a decent mp serve the area. We used to be &quot;served" by La McIntosh and she was rude and arrogant. We were moved into Julian Sturdy's constituency and he is so different.

This lady needs serious help! She is deluded. No one cares what she thinks..... Now she knows how the voters feel.

A monkey would have to be deranged to stand for the tories.

[quote][p][bold]Pmlwdw[/bold] wrote:
This lady is so arrogant it's untrue. Her track record of ignoring debate goes before her,. It's no wonder she has had glasses of tetleys poured over her. 77,000 people didn't vote for her. Those who voted Tory in this constituency would probably vote in a deranged monkey if t stood in blue at a general election. She ignores her electorate and now she is trying to ignore the rules that she accepted when she stood for her party.
I wish she would crawl away and let a decent mp serve the area. We used to be "served" by La McIntosh and she was rude and arrogant. We were moved into Julian Sturdy's constituency and he is so different.
This lady needs serious help! She is deluded. No one cares what she thinks..... Now she knows how the voters feel.[/p][/quote]A monkey would have to be deranged to stand for the tories.twotonethomas

Sadly, I know this local mob well given that my parents were 'into' the local Ryedale Conservatives. Local 200 Club comes to mind and Mayoral duties.

And Hunting was very much on the locals agenda, I am former Ryedale member myself so do know the territory and who is who, brought up with it along with shooting :(

And as for Hugh Bayley MP knew about the heart issues years ago. Don't tell me Hugh but you did and did nothing along with special needs and the rest and let it go on.

John Greenway MP also knew but given that John Greenaway supported hunting and agriculture and is a man speaks volumes.

She probably wouldn't support an Reappeal of the Hunting Act.
Sadly, I know this local mob well given that my parents were 'into' the local Ryedale Conservatives. Local 200 Club comes to mind and Mayoral duties.
And Hunting was very much on the locals agenda, I am former Ryedale member myself so do know the territory and who is who, brought up with it along with shooting :(
And as for Hugh Bayley MP knew about the heart issues years ago. Don't tell me Hugh but you did and did nothing along with special needs and the rest and let it go on.
John Greenway MP also knew but given that John Greenaway supported hunting and agriculture and is a man speaks volumes.Digeorge

Anne McIntosh certainly was not arrogant towards me. Any perceived arrogance may come from her legal training. This legal training, together with the fact that she is a woman and the fact that (when I last checked) - and I do feel slightly ashamed for bringing in personal details - but she is bravely a Miss not even hiding behind the Ms like me - may lead some into what is quite obviously patronising disrespect. I am sorry to hear that you think she has not been a good MP for you. Perhaps you could spell out the exact reason for that opinion. It seems you have, however, by trying to tar all the 'Tories' with one brush at the end of your commentary - which is hugely unfair and unreasonable in Miss McIntosh's case.

twotonethomas
Anne McIntosh certainly was not arrogant towards me. Any perceived arrogance may come from her legal training. This legal training, together with the fact that she is a woman and the fact that (when I last checked) - and I do feel slightly ashamed for bringing in personal details - but she is bravely a Miss not even hiding behind the Ms like me - may lead some into what is quite obviously patronising disrespect. I am sorry to hear that you think she has not been a good MP for you. Perhaps you could spell out the exact reason for that opinion. It seems you have, however, by trying to tar all the 'Tories' with one brush at the end of your commentary - which is hugely unfair and unreasonable in Miss McIntosh's case.sjm43

Well on two occasions she has spoken her mind on issues , which is her right in a democracy. However , if you write and debate the points with her thorn guess what? She ignores your letters. I am not the only one. Read up on her! She only represents those who agree with her.

This i believe is the third time in two constituencies that she has lost a re selection ballot. I wonder why?

She was elected a Tory candidate according to the rules. She should go away in accordance with the rules.

Why on earth does she think that the non Tories in her constituency should have a say in who the Tory candidate is! She is meant to be educated!

Sjm.... It was I and not two tone who called her arrogant .
Why??
Well on two occasions she has spoken her mind on issues , which is her right in a democracy. However , if you write and debate the points with her thorn guess what? She ignores your letters. I am not the only one. Read up on her! She only represents those who agree with her.
This i believe is the third time in two constituencies that she has lost a re selection ballot. I wonder why?
She was elected a Tory candidate according to the rules. She should go away in accordance with the rules.
Why on earth does she think that the non Tories in her constituency should have a say in who the Tory candidate is! She is meant to be educated!Pmlwdw

Pmlwdw said "Why on earth does she think that the non Tories in her constituency should have a say in who the Tory candidate is! She is meant to be educated! " As was demonstrated by Miss McIntosh to me many times she is not a servant to party political bias but actually believes in the old fashioned job of an MP serving her constituents assiduously no matter what their own political bias - I am at a loss to say why she should have proved so kind to me when she chose to ignore letters from others - perhaps they were rude, obnoxious or jingoistic in content?

Pmlwdw said "Why on earth does she think that the non Tories in her constituency should have a say in who the Tory candidate is! She is meant to be educated! " As was demonstrated by Miss McIntosh to me many times she is not a servant to party political bias but actually believes in the old fashioned job of an MP serving her constituents assiduously no matter what their own political bias - I am at a loss to say why she should have proved so kind to me when she chose to ignore letters from others - perhaps they were rude, obnoxious or jingoistic in content?sjm43

sjm43 wrote:
Pmlwdw said &quot;Why on earth does she think that the non Tories in her constituency should have a say in who the Tory candidate is! She is meant to be educated! " As was demonstrated by Miss McIntosh to me many times she is not a servant to party political bias but actually believes in the old fashioned job of an MP serving her constituents assiduously no matter what their own political bias - I am at a loss to say why she should have proved so kind to me when she chose to ignore letters from others - perhaps they were rude, obnoxious or jingoistic in content?

I do not write rude obnoxious or jingoistic letters. I just happen to disagree and therefore wanted to debate the issue. Isn't that why we pay her salary?

Please don't go down the cheap route of aiming dirt at me

[quote][p][bold]sjm43[/bold] wrote:
Pmlwdw said "Why on earth does she think that the non Tories in her constituency should have a say in who the Tory candidate is! She is meant to be educated! " As was demonstrated by Miss McIntosh to me many times she is not a servant to party political bias but actually believes in the old fashioned job of an MP serving her constituents assiduously no matter what their own political bias - I am at a loss to say why she should have proved so kind to me when she chose to ignore letters from others - perhaps they were rude, obnoxious or jingoistic in content?[/p][/quote]I do not write rude obnoxious or jingoistic letters. I just happen to disagree and therefore wanted to debate the issue. Isn't that why we pay her salary?
Please don't go down the cheap route of aiming dirt at mePmlwdw

Woody G Mellor wrote:
Anyone know why the comments have been removed from the article &quot;Dont consult the public any more, says York 20mph campaigner".

This YCC Labour lot make me sick! Cant wait to see the back of them!

Well, we can have a guess at least.

Funny, because today the Coun Steward story attracted a couple of "pie" comments which have been rightly removed and the facility stands. Here we have this story where some are attacking Anne Mc, and the facility stands. Yet commenting on the Coun Semlyen story has been disabled. Those comments were dozens agreed and none were as personal as these two examples.

It's not even ironic that the story was about Coun Semlyen saying "no more consultation needed" (!) and now no-one can even have their rightful say on a harmless newspaper forum.

It's a low, it's a trough, it's a nadir. If I was in charge I'd be keen to make a change. As in TTFN.

Bad scene.

[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote:
Anyone know why the comments have been removed from the article "Dont consult the public any more, says York 20mph campaigner".
This YCC Labour lot make me sick! Cant wait to see the back of them![/p][/quote]Well, we can have a guess at least.
Funny, because today the Coun Steward story attracted a couple of "pie" comments which have been rightly removed and the facility stands. Here we have this story where some are attacking Anne Mc, and the facility stands. Yet commenting on the Coun Semlyen story has been disabled. Those comments were dozens agreed and none were as personal as these two examples.
It's not even ironic that the story was about Coun Semlyen saying "no more consultation needed" (!) and now no-one can even have their rightful say on a harmless newspaper forum.
It's a low, it's a trough, it's a nadir. If I was in charge I'd be keen to make a change. As in TTFN.
Bad scene.Buzzz Light-year

MouseHouse wrote:
A vile party with vile policies, and I, for one, absolutely love it when they rip themselves apart in public. Carry on...

Tories ripping each other to bits is the only bloodsport I don't want to see banned.

It's just a pity they don't use a pack of hounds to do it.

[quote][p][bold]MouseHouse[/bold] wrote:
A vile party with vile policies, and I, for one, absolutely love it when they rip themselves apart in public. Carry on...[/p][/quote]Tories ripping each other to bits is the only bloodsport I don't want to see banned.
It's just a pity they don't use a pack of hounds to do it.twotonethomas

Pmlwdw I did not mean to attack you personally but meant to address the matter generally - maybe Anne McIntosh would be critical of anyone, whether Conservative or Labour, who happened to be obnoxious and jingoistic. Maybe it is worth giving her a more central role on the political stage and waiting to see where that takes us. As I said it is refreshing to have a woman eager and willing to take on such a role. Let's not knock her down like some kind of stray skittle.

Pmlwdw I did not mean to attack you personally but meant to address the matter generally - maybe Anne McIntosh would be critical of anyone, whether Conservative or Labour, who happened to be obnoxious and jingoistic. Maybe it is worth giving her a more central role on the political stage and waiting to see where that takes us. As I said it is refreshing to have a woman eager and willing to take on such a role. Let's not knock her down like some kind of stray skittle.sjm43

A 'compare and contrast' article or document could be written on this and this: http://www.telegraph
.co.uk/women/womens-
politics/10638399/Lo
rd-Rennard-sex-alleg
ations-scandal-Nick-
Clegg-wants-us-to-fo
rget-about-it-but-no
-one-will.html

A 'compare and contrast' article or document could be written on this and this: http://www.telegraph
.co.uk/women/womens-
politics/10638399/Lo
rd-Rennard-sex-alleg
ations-scandal-Nick-
Clegg-wants-us-to-fo
rget-about-it-but-no
-one-will.htmlsjm43

Woody G Mellor wrote:
Anyone know why the comments have been removed from the article &quot;Dont consult the public any more, says York 20mph campaigner".

This YCC Labour lot make me sick! Cant wait to see the back of them!

Well, we can have a guess at least.

Funny, because today the Coun Steward story attracted a couple of "pie" comments which have been rightly removed and the facility stands. Here we have this story where some are attacking Anne Mc, and the facility stands. Yet commenting on the Coun Semlyen story has been disabled. Those comments were dozens agreed and none were as personal as these two examples.

It's not even ironic that the story was about Coun Semlyen saying "no more consultation needed" (!) and now no-one can even have their rightful say on a harmless newspaper forum.

It's a low, it's a trough, it's a nadir. If I was in charge I'd be keen to make a change. As in TTFN.

Bad scene.

Maybe they don't have the broad shoulders you need to be a public figure?

As a side comment, on the topic we should be debating, but won't let us, I saw probably the daftest installation of a 20mph sign the other day. On the side street that leads up to the Lidl store in Acomb.

My only worry now is, which party will be running York after the next election? Perhaps the Monster Raving Loony lot fancy a go......

[quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote:
Anyone know why the comments have been removed from the article "Dont consult the public any more, says York 20mph campaigner".
This YCC Labour lot make me sick! Cant wait to see the back of them![/p][/quote]Well, we can have a guess at least.
Funny, because today the Coun Steward story attracted a couple of "pie" comments which have been rightly removed and the facility stands. Here we have this story where some are attacking Anne Mc, and the facility stands. Yet commenting on the Coun Semlyen story has been disabled. Those comments were dozens agreed and none were as personal as these two examples.
It's not even ironic that the story was about Coun Semlyen saying "no more consultation needed" (!) and now no-one can even have their rightful say on a harmless newspaper forum.
It's a low, it's a trough, it's a nadir. If I was in charge I'd be keen to make a change. As in TTFN.
Bad scene.[/p][/quote]Maybe they don't have the broad shoulders you need to be a public figure?
As a side comment, on the topic we should be debating, but won't let us, I saw probably the daftest installation of a 20mph sign the other day. On the side street that leads up to the Lidl store in Acomb.
My only worry now is, which party will be running York after the next election? Perhaps the Monster Raving Loony lot fancy a go......oldgoat

ColdAsChristmas wrote:
Why would a married woman want to be called Miss? And I didn't hear John Greenway complain about the deselection process either.

I didn't realize she was married. I thought she was single, like me..like some of my revered school teachers were ....they were not lesbians necessarily, just daring to be single women.

[quote][p][bold]ColdAsChristmas[/bold] wrote:
Why would a married woman want to be called Miss? And I didn't hear John Greenway complain about the deselection process either.[/p][/quote]I didn't realize she was married. I thought she was single, like me..like some of my revered school teachers were ....they were not lesbians necessarily, just daring to be single women.sjm43

Woody G Mellor wrote:
Anyone know why the comments have been removed from the article &quot;Dont consult the public any more, says York 20mph campaigner".

This YCC Labour lot make me sick! Cant wait to see the back of them!

Well, we can have a guess at least.

Funny, because today the Coun Steward story attracted a couple of "pie" comments which have been rightly removed and the facility stands. Here we have this story where some are attacking Anne Mc, and the facility stands. Yet commenting on the Coun Semlyen story has been disabled. Those comments were dozens agreed and none were as personal as these two examples.

It's not even ironic that the story was about Coun Semlyen saying "no more consultation needed" (!) and now no-one can even have their rightful say on a harmless newspaper forum.

It's a low, it's a trough, it's a nadir. If I was in charge I'd be keen to make a change. As in TTFN.

Bad scene.

We all know why it was removed , we all know on whoes insisitence it was removed and we all know which people to remove at the next election to prevent any further disengagement of the electorate. If people would only vote for someone who will represent them instead of voting for a coloured flag.

[quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote:
Anyone know why the comments have been removed from the article "Dont consult the public any more, says York 20mph campaigner".
This YCC Labour lot make me sick! Cant wait to see the back of them![/p][/quote]Well, we can have a guess at least.
Funny, because today the Coun Steward story attracted a couple of "pie" comments which have been rightly removed and the facility stands. Here we have this story where some are attacking Anne Mc, and the facility stands. Yet commenting on the Coun Semlyen story has been disabled. Those comments were dozens agreed and none were as personal as these two examples.
It's not even ironic that the story was about Coun Semlyen saying "no more consultation needed" (!) and now no-one can even have their rightful say on a harmless newspaper forum.
It's a low, it's a trough, it's a nadir. If I was in charge I'd be keen to make a change. As in TTFN.
Bad scene.[/p][/quote]We all know why it was removed , we all know on whoes insisitence it was removed and we all know which people to remove at the next election to prevent any further disengagement of the electorate. If people would only vote for someone who will represent them instead of voting for a coloured flag.nowthen

Digeorge wrote:
If this woman was a man in that constituency she wouldn't have been 'deselected' but welcomed.

Given the average age of a Conservative member is an OAP, it would be several 'men' in high places that decided to 'deselect' her. Poor woman having them to deal with.

Average age of conversatives is let me think over 60+.

Good luck to her as I suspect the Conservatives will turn liberal in that area or UKIP as I certainly would.

NB i'm uffiliated so this isn't anti/pro tory
Having said the above is just hilariuos. Do you genuinely think gender has anything to do with it. Like they just realised after her being a N.Yorkshire MP for over a decade that she was a woman?
Blimey, she's a woman, quickly get her out of here, I never noticed before!

And if you think that area will vote anything other than Tory then you are smoking something....

She should switch allegiances and become the first ukip mp and female to boot! No gebnder problems in ukip

[quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Digeorge[/bold] wrote:
If this woman was a man in that constituency she wouldn't have been 'deselected' but welcomed.
Given the average age of a Conservative member is an OAP, it would be several 'men' in high places that decided to 'deselect' her. Poor woman having them to deal with.
Average age of conversatives is let me think over 60+.
Good luck to her as I suspect the Conservatives will turn liberal in that area or UKIP as I certainly would.[/p][/quote]NB i'm uffiliated so this isn't anti/pro tory
Having said the above is just hilariuos. Do you genuinely think gender has anything to do with it. Like they just realised after her being a N.Yorkshire MP for over a decade that she was a woman?
Blimey, she's a woman, quickly get her out of here, I never noticed before!
And if you think that area will vote anything other than Tory then you are smoking something....[/p][/quote]She should switch allegiances and become the first ukip mp and female to boot! No gebnder problems in ukipbrowbeaten

Digeorge wrote:
If this woman was a man in that constituency she wouldn't have been 'deselected' but welcomed.

Given the average age of a Conservative member is an OAP, it would be several 'men' in high places that decided to 'deselect' her. Poor woman having them to deal with.

Average age of conversatives is let me think over 60+.

Good luck to her as I suspect the Conservatives will turn liberal in that area or UKIP as I certainly would.

NB i'm uffiliated so this isn't anti/pro tory
Having said the above is just hilariuos. Do you genuinely think gender has anything to do with it. Like they just realised after her being a N.Yorkshire MP for over a decade that she was a woman?
Blimey, she's a woman, quickly get her out of here, I never noticed before!

And if you think that area will vote anything other than Tory then you are smoking something....

She should switch allegiances and become the first ukip mp and female to boot! No gebnder problems in ukip

Or alternatively she could be (as my old minister found out) a rude conceited lady without a lot of respect...

(But that of course couldn't be it, it has to be because she's female of course)

[quote][p][bold]browbeaten[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Digeorge[/bold] wrote:
If this woman was a man in that constituency she wouldn't have been 'deselected' but welcomed.
Given the average age of a Conservative member is an OAP, it would be several 'men' in high places that decided to 'deselect' her. Poor woman having them to deal with.
Average age of conversatives is let me think over 60+.
Good luck to her as I suspect the Conservatives will turn liberal in that area or UKIP as I certainly would.[/p][/quote]NB i'm uffiliated so this isn't anti/pro tory
Having said the above is just hilariuos. Do you genuinely think gender has anything to do with it. Like they just realised after her being a N.Yorkshire MP for over a decade that she was a woman?
Blimey, she's a woman, quickly get her out of here, I never noticed before!
And if you think that area will vote anything other than Tory then you are smoking something....[/p][/quote]She should switch allegiances and become the first ukip mp and female to boot! No gebnder problems in ukip[/p][/quote]Or alternatively she could be (as my old minister found out) a rude conceited lady without a lot of respect...
(But that of course couldn't be it, it has to be because she's female of course)AGuyFromStrensall

Awww, poor Anne, never mind, we're all in it together in these times of austerity etc. etc. blah blah blah. I'd be happy for her to dip her hand in her own pocket to canvass opinion as to whether or not people think she should remain. I've had cause to contact her twice over the past few years and have found her to be very slow to act and on one occasion she had someone else answer a question I never asked and on the other had someone else supply me with totally false and financially costly (to me) information. Can't wait to see what decrepit fascist half-wit replaces her.

Awww, poor Anne, never mind, we're all in it together in these times of austerity etc. etc. blah blah blah. I'd be happy for her to dip her hand in her own pocket to canvass opinion as to whether or not people think she should remain. I've had cause to contact her twice over the past few years and have found her to be very slow to act and on one occasion she had someone else answer a question I never asked and on the other had someone else supply me with totally false and financially costly (to me) information. Can't wait to see what decrepit fascist half-wit replaces her.onlymeagainagain