WoodBine / Mohawk circuit is by far the toughest to handicap for me - not that the racing isnt quality - actually I think the quality is EXCELLENT - just very tough to handicap - often find myself seeing 6 or 7 solid contenders every time I handicap a race - makes it tough for me to play a pik 7 without investing big $.....but I may still take a shot if that pot grows to 6 figures....Joe B

Joe , I agree Woodbine is one tough track to handicap from what I remember and that extra horse makes it real difficult to hit that pik 7 .

Good luck if you wager in that tough bet .

RTP

I'm curious how big of carryover do posters feel it is worth chasing? Guys will play a thoroughbred P6 with big carryover even if they're harness bettors but shy away from a harness P7. At what point of carryover would you jump in to this bet? $100,000? $200,000?

Joe , I agree Woodbine is one tough track to handicap from what I remember and that extra horse makes it real difficult to hit that pik 7 .

Good luck if you wager in that tough bet .

RTP

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That stretch is BRUTAL. You can't be on the lead turning for home as you have no chance. I've just seen finishesthe last quarter mile that leave my jaw dropped. I think your only shot is betting trainers and drivers and hopingfor the best as far as a Pick 7 goes. I wouldn't put more than $100 bucks in it unless it was over 200K

Trotter - i dont watch a lot of canada and maybe i have a wrong perception - but in my mind woodbine is a more speed favoring track even tho i agree its a loooong stretch as compared to mohawk which i think favors the closers more - but again i dont watch a lot from canada and maybe im dead wrong.....Joe B

What is real discouraging for me is getting knocked out in the 1st or 2nd race.

I wish the Chicago Tracks (Balmoral) had a guaranteed Pic 6/7/8 or 9 with the track seeding the bet by $ 25,000. As the pools get bigger their is more excitement. Just look at the Lottery when it gets up to $ 100,000,000. Everyone goes crazy.

Trotter - i dont watch a lot of canada and maybe i have a wrong perception - but in my mind woodbine is a more speed favoring track even tho i agree its a loooong stretch as compared to mohawk which i think favors the closers more - but again i dont watch a lot from canada and maybe im dead wrong.....Joe B

Actually you are wrong Joe B. Woodbine has a shorter stretch

I wrote to their column "ask the expert" at standardbred canada and heres the reply I got from them

When Mohawk was reconfigured to a 7/8ths mile track a few years ago, they put in a very broad, sweeping last turn (the track's turns are not identical), which allows horses to really gain momentum and explode off cover coming out of the turn into the stretch. This makes Mohawk much less biased toward front end speed than Woodbine, which has tighter turns.

Trotter - i dont watch a lot of canada and maybe i have a wrong perception - but in my mind woodbine is a more speed favoring track even tho i agree its a loooong stretch as compared to mohawk which i think favors the closers more - but again i dont watch a lot from canada and maybe im dead wrong.....Joe B

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Got it--I also think of Woodbine and Mohawk as the same but I realize they're different.