Ken HoThink you realise by now "The Rules" is a misstake. Some are spot-on, but most are not relevant.note: Merckx and De Vlaeminck, no helmets, as you did. Black knicks, fullstop, like Coffee.Back in the day, nobody would even speak of "the rules" (hence my Fight Club ref.)Rule #1. You do not talk about 'The Rules'. Rule #2. You DO NOT talk about 'The Rules'. It was all by observation, and the longer your around, the more you knew.At the end of the day, ALL rules are a guide, you bend them enough, so they look straight to you.The difference, is whether you just look the part, or you are the part.Best line in the whole effort... "Free your mind and your legs will follow"It's what you can do on the bike, that matters, in the end.Enjoy your ride.Cheers

Lone Rider- I rode on the long, dark road... before I danced under the lights.

brentono wrote:Ken HoThink you realise by now "The Rules" is a misstake. Some are spot-on, but most are not relevant.note: Merckx and De Vlaeminck, no helmets, as you did. Black knicks, fullstop, like Coffee.Back in the day, nobody would even speak of "the rules" (hence my Fight Club ref.)Rule #1. You do not talk about 'The Rules'. Rule #2. You DO NOT talk about 'The Rules'. It was all by observation, and the longer your around, the more you knew.At the end of the day, ALL rules are a guide, you bend them enough, so they look straight to you.The difference, is whether you just look the part, or you are the part.Best line in the whole effort... "Free your mind and your legs will follow"It's what you can do on the bike, that matters, in the end.Enjoy your ride.Cheers

Maybe you should read the OP again. I'm neither disdainful of, or bound by The Rules. This now very old thread was originally triggered by someone beating someone else over the head about breking ones of the Rules. Me, I believe thaT rules are meant to guide us in the dark. In line with your thoughts, once you have enough knowledge, you can make your own rules. I don't like people who think that rules are meant to replace thinking, rather than to enhance it. After all, that where rules come from. People with enough experience to define stuff.

brentono wrote:Ken HoThink you realise by now "The Rules" is a misstake. Some are spot-on, but most are not relevant.note: Merckx and De Vlaeminck, no helmets, as you did. Black knicks, fullstop, like Coffee.Back in the day, nobody would even speak of "the rules" (hence my Fight Club ref.)Rule #1. You do not talk about 'The Rules'. Rule #2. You DO NOT talk about 'The Rules'. It was all by observation, and the longer your around, the more you knew.At the end of the day, ALL rules are a guide, you bend them enough, so they look straight to you.The difference, is whether you just look the part, or you are the part.Best line in the whole effort... "Free your mind and your legs will follow"It's what you can do on the bike, that matters, in the end.Enjoy your ride.Cheers

Maybe you should read the OP again. I'm neither disdainful of, or bound by The Rules. This now very old thread was originally triggered by someone beating someone else over the head about breking ones of the Rules. Me, I believe thaT rules are meant to guide us in the dark. In line with your thoughts, once you have enough knowledge, you can make your own rules. I don't like people who think that rules are meant to replace thinking, rather than to enhance it. After all, that where rules come from. People with enough experience to define stuff.

OP= "Don't get me wrong, I basically like The Rules"

Think we were pretty well in agreement. My Point was back in the day (when the "Rules" were envoked) no-one even spoke of them. You learnt by observation.I may have actually been one of the people with enough experience to define stuff. I made my own rules. (In a Mexican Voice... "Rules, we don't need no stinkin' Rules) Cheers

Lone Rider- I rode on the long, dark road... before I danced under the lights.

I mostly quote it at myself, but then, only when I want to. I've done my hard yards in this life. I've also been badly burnt out more than once.I push myself now when I feel like it, for as long as I feel like it, and welcome others to do the same.

norbs wrote: And some roadies just refuse to say hello or even acknowledge you. I can feel another blog post coming.

As you know, I bloody hate that. I need to find the footage of the bloke who rode past with the angry look on his face.

I thought cycling was supposed to be fun

Yeah, when did people stop giving a nod or a wave ? I get a bit miffed, and think bugger that, I'm gonna stop, but then, I don't want to be the one someone else thinks the same thing of, so I keep waving despite being ignored most of the time.

norbs wrote: And some roadies just refuse to say hello or even acknowledge you. I can feel another blog post coming.

As you know, I bloody hate that. I need to find the footage of the bloke who rode past with the angry look on his face.

I thought cycling was supposed to be fun

Yeah, when did people stop giving a nod or a wave ? I get a bit miffed, and think bugger that, I'm gonna stop, but then, I don't want to be the one someone else thinks the same thing of, so I keep waving despite being ignored most of the time.

I think this happens to most of us. I just keep nodding to people and don't bother looking for a response. That way I've done my part and won't get offended by any lack of response.

Ken Ho wrote:Yeah, when did people stop giving a nod or a wave ? I get a bit miffed, and think bugger that, I'm gonna stop, but then, I don't want to be the one someone else thinks the same thing of, so I keep waving despite being ignored most of the time.