I have to admit I'm not that familiar with the concept of light wind slalom vs high wind formula sails. Does that mean that the light wind slalom 9.9 would have better low end grunt and early planing but lack upper range stability over the high wind formula 10m?

This might be the case, so it might be worth checking this.

27th July 2008 03:52 AM

Unregistered

Some of that NP monfilm quality doesn't seem poor. I have (a low end) one from a few years ago that literally sounds like a crisp packet in the gusts when given lots of downhaul. And a bigger V8 where the monofilm is deeply scored by rigging creases near the luff. I'd be interested in the Aerotech VMG - good materials and easier on the mast. But no availability here.

26th July 2008 06:30 PM

kvda

Quote:

Originally Posted by blazer

I have to admit I'm not that familiar with the concept of light wind slalom vs high wind formula sails. Does that mean that the light wind slalom 9.9 would have better low end grunt and early planing but lack upper range stability over the high wind formula 10m?

yes, it's like that.

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Kvda - just broke the combination you're recommending. Would rather not go there again.

ok, I can understand, but I tried to make clear that any mast in big size with a high carbon content is a risk...
good luck!

26th July 2008 04:41 PM

blazer

I agree with Jille. Ideally I would be looking at an 11m but within this situation I have an opportunity at 2 good deals on second hand sails so price is a consideration.

I have to admit I'm not that familiar with the concept of light wind slalom vs high wind formula sails. Does that mean that the light wind slalom 9.9 would have better low end grunt and early planing but lack upper range stability over the high wind formula 10m?

Kvda - just broke the combination you're recommending. Would rather not go there again.

My next size down is a GTX 8.5

Thanks for all the great advice and insight. Keep it coming.

26th July 2008 02:42 PM

kvda

@Blazer: just because of the bad stories about NP masts in big sizes, I 've bought a 2007 Vapor 11.0 with Gaastra 550 race 100%. My thoughts were like yours now: not to buy a NP in big sizes because of the risks...
Guess what: the gaastra 550 mast broke spontaneously, after a session of half an hour. It was lying on the grass. Beside that part, I like NP sails better but that's a matter of personal feeling. Now i've decided not to go bigger than 10 m2. Still have my X7 5.20 (5 years now) with RS2, that's quality.
For the record: don't want a X9 bigger than 4.60, my 4.90 is an X6 (but 4.00-4.30 and 4.60 are X9)

But back on topic: would go for a V8 with X6 5.20 in your position, of other freeracesail. Because as Jille says, the racesails in sizes around 10 are high wind, and you're looking for a low end sails.

26th July 2008 02:18 PM

Jille

I've had an F-type with V8's.
Nice combo!

But I've also had a lot of repairs at my V8's, so last year I've sold them and bought Vapors an I really love these sails!
(even @ my 98 kilo's)

But, the 10.0 Vapor is a highwind Formulasail and the 9.9 North a lowwind Slalomsail (correct me if I'm wrong).
Comparing these sails could be difficult.

I think (correct me again if I'm wrong) that an 11.0 Vapor would be a better choice. This sail could be better for lowwind then the 10.0.
I didn't sail the 10.0, nor the 9.9 so it's it's just a thought that might be interesting to check before you buy?

26th July 2008 07:15 AM

blazer

Guess you haven't heard about all of NP's quality issues over the past few years. Sail has several holes in the mast sleeve. Some are my fault and others are NP's. Was going the replace the sail next season. Broke the X6 mast last weekend. That's the third np mast I've broken over the past several years and I don't sail all that much.

I've always been a loyal NP consumer but enough is enough. I purchased a Gaastra GTX in a smaller size earlier this year and love it.

So now 10m is the rig I use 70% of the time and I'm down. Have the opportunity to get a '07 Warp 9.9 or '08 Vapor 10m at very reasonable price.
Not racing, primarily beam reaching.

26th July 2008 03:31 AM

Unregistered

Blazer blew out his 10.6 Thought that only happened wavesailing.

25th July 2008 09:33 PM

kvda

I've tried Vapor 2007, GTX 2007 but didn't like them, as a fact, don't seem to like Gaastra sails at all. Also tried V8 and RS slalom, RS4 ans RS2 and like them a lot better!!

if you liked the V8 10.6, why change? The F-type isn't the board which can really get the max out of a high end racesail.

25th July 2008 10:38 AM

honk

IF you need a very good sail for general sailing, I will go for the Overdrive 10m for following reason :