you say that SE 3way are not analitycal, but would you say that they lack accuracy/details or would you say that the micro-details are there but they are not pushed forward? treble is non-fatiquing, but is it hidden behind the mids and bass?

I'm currenctly considering purchasing SE 3-way reference or Cosmic Ears BA4R and I need those clarifications I know that those CIEMs differ and Cosmic Ears is rather type of my ideal CIEM (I'm Etys fan), but taking into account the reputation of Grzegorz's CIEMs I'm willing to give up my preferred sound signature and buy his CIEMs.

The detail is there but definitely not pushed forward. A little bitof microdetail might be lost compared to the Etys because of the thicker note presentation. The treble is not rolled-off - it's still there and the instruments that rely on it are still presented properly, but it takes a back seat to the strong bass and thick mids. If you're an Etys fan, the 3-way will provide a very different type of sound.

Many thanks for the reply. Would you say that 3way has, what is called, organic/analog sound? Does it have monitor type sound (although not so bright as Etys) or rather it is directed just for listnening? I know that 3way differs from Etys, but if the details are there in 3way but not so "into your face" and the overall sound is much more thicker then it would be interesting alterntaive to Etys. I have to think about this today very intensly because I would not like to but CIEMs which have a sound sognature which I would not like and taking into account that SE are approx USD 300 pricier than Cosmic Ears.

Could you please quickly compare Musice One vs SE in terms of build quality and how deep each of them stick in the ear canal, their comfort, bubbles etc.Edited by shakur1996 - 9/8/13 at 2:43pm

Many thanks for the reply. Would you say that 3way has, what is called, organic/analog sound? Does it have monitor type sound (although not so bright as Etys) or rather it is directed just for listnening? I know that 3way differs from Etys, but if the details are there in 3way but not so "into your face" and the overall sound is much more thicker then it would be interesting alterntaive to Etys. I have to think about this today very intensly because I would not like to but CIEMs which have a sound sognature which I would not like and taking into account that SE are approx USD 300 pricier than Cosmic Ears.

Could you please quickly compare Musice One vs SE in terms of build quality and how deep each of them stick in the ear canal, their comfort, bubbles etc.

A monitor can be anything from an Ety to a stage-oriented set like the Westone UM3X or Earsonics SM3, both of which sound quite different from an Ety. The 3-way is more similar to the latter type of monitor.

As for the quality, there are no bubbles in either my Music One or my 3-way. The Music One is smaller and a little lighter - it's made with a very low profile and there's only one driver in there. The fit of the SE-3 is a little deeper but not too much so. Comfort is similar once you have them in. The Music One is a little harder to dig out of my ear because of the low profile.

I hope that everything will be fine with my BA4 (I have a strong believe in Phil's work) and its sound will meet all of my expectations. But I'm also considering having back up CIEMs which will have a dfferent sound signature compare to BA4. This is why I'm also still considering some of Spiral Ear products (since Grzegorz's CIEMs collect impressive reviews).Edited by shakur1996 - 9/12/13 at 4:24am

I own a pair since January 2014.
I take a lot of fun with.
I love so much that I will buy the SE5 (first I thought that it 's not possible, but Grzegorz told that i can so ...)
They will be quite complementary
A fun listen and a more detailed listening.