Wait for TX 905

Other please list model or post link to model of 1.3 HDMI receiver you think I should get

Well the time seems to have come to make a choice of receiver now as I have a home I have a room, I have a shitload of speakers (7) and two subs should be here by the end of July.

Time to get the receiver and I will try to do the projector when I get back from my new york trip.

So I am a little confused on which way to go.

I have always tended to buy from the high side of the Yamaha line up but they don't seem to have an HDMI 1.3 unit coming out soon enough.

The real contenders seem to be the two Denon units and the Onkyo 875 though the 905 looks good and is financially within reach it isn't due out till aug.

The Onkyos are THX Ultra 2 Certified and I don't think the Denons are but not sure and am not sure how important THX certified is I mean some companies don't seem to care about getting the THX tag.

The onkyos have the reon chip for video processing which might be better then what the denons have but am not sure, and again not really sure it matters much because I am going to be feeding it lots of HD though I guess it could help on the SD-DVDs though I could just as easily but an AX 2 HD-DVD player and have that same chip do the upconversions.

I should also mention that the 4308 having wi-fi built in is cool since I have a wireless router and no where near by plug an ethernet cable in though I am going to have to figure something out for the HD-DVD and Blu-Ray players.

I'm a happy Integra owner so I'm siding with Onkyo, Admittedly I've never owned a Dennon so all I'm willing to say is that the Integra has produced great sounds in my home for years without any issues, and i have no plans to make a change until I can afford to move into higher end Seperates.

The weight of the receiver only matters if you are not going to use a subwoofer. Using an 80Hz crossover is highly recommended. If you have speakers that are flat to 20Hz, you may be able to get away without a subwoofer. Using an 80Hz crossover reduces the wattage fed to the main speakers by 66%.

he weight of the receiver only matters if you are not going to use a subwoofer. Using an 80Hz crossover is highly recommended. If you have speakers that are flat to 20Hz, you may be able to get away without a subwoofer. Using an 80Hz crossover reduces the wattage fed to the main speakers by 66%.

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Not true. Keep in mind that some receivers like the old Onkyos such as the 804 only produced 32WPC x5 when they were rated for 110 WPC x7.

Thus the added juice is needed. It's not a coincidence the best receivers also have hefty power supplies. Since most people do not buy $3,000 receivers and I'm talking about a $1,000 receiver here, it makes a big difference.

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My current receiver rated at 80wpc was tested by that home theater magazine that does all the bench tests. 27! watts per channel with all channels driven. Luckily I'm using an external amp, but with that kind of power supply in a room my size, I'd have been seriously f'd.

There are reports on other forums that the Onkyo receivers are having 'popping' sounds. A poll shows that up to 25% of the respondents have the problem. Now, obviously that's a skewed number, but still significant in my book.

I'm looking at the same receivers you are, and, like you, have always had Yamaha in the past. But no 1.3 on the horizon, so I'm looking elsewhere. I'm going to wait for the early reviews of the 3808, and then make a decision. I wish they had put the Reon processor in it, though.

That 875 and 3808 are the same price at J&R, so it's just a matter of which one gets me closest to the 'perfect' unit.

Popping generally means weak amps. They tend to pop when you they are overloaded.

Now if 25% are getting this it could mean their speakers are harder to drive and or tend to listen louder. My guess is the 875 will fare a little better or the whole THX Ultra program is a sham. :roll:

Popping generally means weak amps. They tend to pop when you they are overloaded.

Now if 25% are getting this it could mean their speakers are harder to drive and or tend to listen louder.

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From what I've read (and trust me, I'm NO expert), it's not speaker clipping, or overloading. Seems to only happen with HD and BR HDMI playback. Apparently some sort of electronic glitch (how's that for being techincal )

Anyway, just a heads-up. I'm sure if there truly is an issue, it'll be resolved quickly by the manufacturer.

Popping generally means weak amps. They tend to pop when you they are overloaded.

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It's not speaker clipping or weak amps. It's for sure a technical issue most likely a manufacturing defect. It is a new amp to them so early bugs are almost expected.

If an amp is weak, then it will go into protector mode rather quick like Sony amps(not the ES stuff) or it will get real shrill at high levels. Then again you loved the Klipsch sound so you might actually like that

I remember the days when I could fry eggs on the Sony ES receivers. I actually had the first ES receiver to have Pro-Logic and I traded in the model below it which had the output for pro-logic but no amp for it to get it.

You really could have fried an egg on it and I actually got rid of it after burning myself on it and moved to a Yamaha DSP A 1000 which was the first of Yamaha's super intergrated amps and the pre cursor of the DSP A1 which I replaced it with.

Just some history there for those wondering how far back I go in the HT arena.