then, you will enjoy kerry's website. he explains many positions and does very little mudslinging, by comparison. unfortunately, most people are lazy enough to hope they will get full explanations from quick sound-bites while at the same time sitting back and complaining that the candidates aren't telling them enough about the issues they want to know more about. <br><br>"Tribal sovereignty means that, it's sovereign. You're a—you've been given sovereignty, and you're viewed as a sovereign entity. And, therefore, the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one between sovereign entities." dubya 8.6.04

Actually Sean I spent an afternoon reading through Kerry's web site. I also read the detailed briefs on his proposed programs. The problem is I don't agree with alot of what he wants to do. His national health care proposals really scare me, after seeing what has happened here in TN with the TennCare program. Plus after reading through the info on Tax Policy Center. org I don't care for his tax proposals either. His Tax numbers show an increase in taxes on the rich, nothing for the middle class, and a decrease in taxes for the poor. All that and a net loss in federal revenue. So the middle class gets no tax break, we have a net loss in federal revenue, and several new programs including a huge new entitlement program. That on top of the debt. What's he going to cut?? If he runs true to form it could be the military budget. Many of the people I know involved in FEMA and homeland security are convinced he's going to make huge cuts in homeland security. That's all speculation, but the bottom line is that with a net revenue loss for the federal govt. he's going to have to either make some deep cuts or raise taxes on the middle class. I can't see how he plans to pay these programs otherwise.<br><br><br>Salus populi suprema lex

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p> What's he going to cut??<p><hr></blockquote><p> What is Kerry going to cut? Why don't we ask what Bush has cut in the last four years. Nada, zip, zero. He hasn't met an entitlement or government program he didn't sign on the dotted line. The only thing he has cut is environmental regulations. But that doesn't do much for the deficit.<br><br>Oh I guess cutting taxes for the very rich counts. We're all going to be enjoying those soon when we win the lottery.<br><br><br><br>luciferase is a four nineteener

I agree he hasn't made the cuts he should have, but man you really need to look at the hard tax numbers when it comes to the tax cut. I recomend this site http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/home/ <br><br>They are non profit, & non political. What I have found is that when you look at the had numbers, it becomes clear that the rhetoric about the tax cut only going to the very rich is just that, a bunch of rhetoric and political hype designed to get votes. Bushes tax cut was an across the board tax cut with EVERY income level getting a piece of the cut based on how much the pay in taxes. <br><br><br><br>The truth is it was a very fair tax cut, with the people paying the most taxes getting more back than people who pay the least taxes. Under Kerry's plan (and you can find the tables at the web site) only the lowest income levels get a break. The middle class doesn't get sqwat, and the rich get hammered. That just isn't fair, and it isn't right to punish a person for working hard and being successful.<br><br><br>Salus populi suprema lex

Say what? From the site you suggested it says the opposite of what you stated. The site says that Bush's tax cut was unfair and was slanted toward the very affluent:<br><br>This use of averages paints a misleading picture of the impact of these tax cuts, however, repeating a strategy employed by the White House when it was trying to sell its original tax-cut plan. Taken at face value, these average figures could imply that the tax cuts provide substantial benefits across a wide spectrum of the population; in reality, the final agreement’s tax cuts are heavily tilted toward the nation’s most affluent individuals and do little for the majority of U.S. households, according to an analysis by the Urban Institute-Brookings Institution Tax Policy Center*.<br><br>* your site suggestion.<br><br>But my arguments would be that there should be no tax cut at all unless you are going to cut some services. Bush has cut zero entitlements because he wants to get elected. On top of that he has added more entitlements. All he has done has cut taxes for the rich which does nothing but drive the deficit through the roof and raises the sea anchor of the national debt which will be tethered to our future economy. He is eating our seed corn for votes today.<br><br>Kerry is the only one telling the truth. We cannot afford tax cuts. Our children cannot afford them because they will be paying for them 20 years from now. <br><br>Yes, Kerry has said in no uncertain terms that he is going to raise my taxes. Thank you Senator Kerry for actually telling the truth. I do not want a tax break. I want the national debt to be paid off instead of the entire world ending up holding the paper on our debt. The only recourse then would be to crank up inflation so our debt becomes cheaper. But that is as worthwhile as a dog chasing his own tail. It does not work.<br><br>Hope v Rage? Bush has fanned the flames of rage until he is in a tight corner. He says no to big government but he is all about big government. He says get government out of your life but he says the government should have the last say on stem cell research, abortion and marriage. Watch what he does, not what he says because they are usually diametrically opposed.<br><br>luciferase is a four nineteener

i heard kerry at a stump talk about homeland security and how the money is not not being distributed correctly. he said that cities should receive more than rural areas. he didn't say he was going to cut homeland security, but reading between the lines he is saying that he'll cut some funding to areas in wyoming and montana so that he can provide additional funding to NYC and memphis. obviously, he wants places that can suffer the most impact to have that much more funding to face the risks they face. so, your friend is probably right, but i suppose it depends on where you live as to whether this is good or bad for you.<br><br>and, the cato institute (libertarian -- very much conservative with regard to gov't spending) is claiming that bush is spending out of control. and, he is doing so even if you don't factor in defense. <a href="http://www.cato.org/dailys/06-09-04-2.html">link here</a><br>snippet:<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Sadly, the Bush administration has consistently sacrificed sound policy to the god of political expediency. From farm subsidies to Medicare expansion, purchasing reelection votes has consistently trumped principle. In fact, what we have now is a president who spends like Carter and panders like Clinton. <p><hr></blockquote><p>and this comparison (non defense):<br><br><br>"Tribal sovereignty means that, it's sovereign. You're a—you've been given sovereignty, and you're viewed as a sovereign entity. And, therefore, the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one between sovereign entities." dubya 8.6.04

No prob. Here is where I got the Brookings quote. <br><br>I was a bit slow because I was trying out a new kayak paddle and I think I just did 20 miles on the Sudbury river in less than three hours. I have to do a MapsRus to verify. I'm vibrating right now. <br><br>luciferase is a four nineteener

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