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Re: Pistons Waive Flynn, Terrence Williams

I think Jonny Flynn was just a beneficiary of the Big East and NCAA tournament hype. That and David Kahn is a huge idiot who drafted 3 point guards in a row on the same night. Terrence Williams just can't hit jump shots and was a victim of somebody else having a guaranteed contract that plays the same position (Daye).

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Re: Pistons Waive Flynn, Terrence Williams

I think Jonny Flynn was just a beneficiary of the Big East and NCAA tournament hype. That and David Kahn is a huge idiot who drafted 3 point guards in a row on the same night. Terrence Williams just can't hit jump shots and was a victim of somebody else having a guaranteed contract that plays the same position and plays it much better (Daye).

Re: Pistons Waive Flynn, Terrence Williams

The oddest thing about Flynn is that his competitive fire never translated from college to the NBA. The guy had a never say die attitude at Cuse and has just kind of been viewed as a chump since he hit the NBA.

Create an ignore list. I know it may seem unneighborly. But you're here to talk about the Pacers, not argue with someone who's just looking for an argument. Most of the regular users on here make use (at least occasionally) of the "Ignore" feature. Just go to "Settings" -> "Edit Ignore List" and add the names.

Re: Pistons Waive Flynn, Terrence Williams

By Rush you mean Dunleavy. And by Dunleavy you mean a more athletic Dunleavy. And by more athletic Dunleavy, you mean a more athletic Dunleavy who lacks the veteran savvy and teammate involvement intangibles.

And by less at athletic Dunleavy who lacks the veteran savvy and teammate involvement intangibles, you mean a white guy.

Re: Pistons Waive Flynn, Terrence Williams

I dont think the Pacers will get a real 3rd string PG. They can use Stephenson as their 3rd stringer (if need be)

That's what I prefer, Lance. Lance needs to get as much burn at the pg/sg spot this year. Pacers really need to give him a shot (like they have with Hans) to see what they've got and see if he has the ability to adapt and get better.

Re: Pistons Waive Flynn, Terrence Williams

Terrence Williams just can't hit jump shots and was a victim of somebody else having a guaranteed contract that plays the same position (Daye).

Yep, that appears to be exactly the problem. Although it would appear that there could be something about his attitude after 3 stops now. When you look at his time with Detroit, shooting aside he was very productive in his couple of games. And ditto in his other stops. He went nuts in the NBDL in a "dude is too good for this league" manner.

I'm not defending him because he was my pet pick, I'm simply saying that the things I liked about his game still appear to be there. He's a brilliant passer and a pretty strong defender. His awareness is great (at UL he was the guy telling Earl Clark where to be all the time). He keeps his TOs down.

At times he shot too much, but often he seems willing to back off to accommodate not having a great jumper. So in basketball terms he seems like an easy fit for any bench at least. Yet he's getting set aside even by teams that could use him. I mean Daye was a terrible "PF" pick and yet there he remains with the roster while TWill is back to the drawing board.

Just hard to figure. To me he's a much better "Lance" in every way EXCEPT SHOOTING. So bring him in as that big "PG" where he rips off 4 bench assists, a block, a steal, and gets physical on defense without throwing the ball all over the place or dominating it either. But if he's a head case then maybe it's a pointless wash.

I don't know if his journey can be Green's because so much seems to be based on his shooting, but if he could avoid getting a chip and learn to grind his way back and become a positive in the locker room then he certainly has the skills to make it somewhere.

Flynn was always massively overrated. His game was very NCAA level, the kind of guy that puts up great college numbers but without great NBA moves. Lawson has done far better overcoming his limitations, but Flynn was always a poor man's Lawson where Lawson really isn't an elite PG. Kahn just lost his mind on draft night there, forced a pick that had no business going that high.

Re: Pistons Waive Flynn, Terrence Williams

There were 2,958,077 reasons Austin Daye made the team over Terrence Williams. And since the Pistons are already paying Richard Hamilton to not play for them, they weren't going to pay Daye to not play for them as well.

Re: Pistons Waive Flynn, Terrence Williams

The Pacers were 36-46 in 08-09 and 32-50 in 09-10. Flynn has always played with a great fire and intensity that nobody can deny those Pacers teams lacked. Like Green, Flynn will go to the NBDL or Europe and will be back. He has too high of a character not to... It's amazing though that if you compare Augustin and Flynn's career numbers to this point, they are nearly identical.

Re: Pistons Waive Flynn, Terrence Williams

The Pacers were 36-46 in 08-09 and 32-50 in 09-10. Flynn has always played with a great fire and intensity that nobody can deny those Pacers teams lacked. Like Green, Flynn will go to the NBDL or Europe and will be back. He has too high of a character not to... It's amazing though that if you compare Augustin and Flynn's career numbers to this point, they are nearly identical.

Terrence Williams is a good player, just been with bad teams. I think teams that are actually good should give him a chance

Re: Pistons Waive Flynn, Terrence Williams

The Pacers were 36-46 in 08-09 and 32-50 in 09-10. Flynn has always played with a great fire and intensity that nobody can deny those Pacers teams lacked. Like Green, Flynn will go to the NBDL or Europe and will be back. He has too high of a character not to... It's amazing though that if you compare Augustin and Flynn's career numbers to this point, they are nearly identical.

So if their numbers and talent are close, then maybe the character is an issue.

Re: Pistons Waive Flynn, Terrence Williams

Or a simple matter of one player being given plenty of opportunity to succeed while the other being given a short leash...

That might be it. Was he drafted by Kahn and traded to Kahn's predecessor? Its all Mchale's fault. Including what happened in Portland. There was a residual effect in Portland. A urinal splash back so to speak. I mean why erbody be holdin' Flynn down. Its the systems, I tells you.