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From the Dem-FEC article: "In her effort targeting foreign influence in federal and state elections, Commissioner Ellen Weintraub would probe spending by overseas sources and even partially-foreign-owned U.S. firms on campaigns, including their media buys. Foreign influence is illegal in elections."

OK, So the Goldstone guy was the guy who 'allegedly' intentionally put Dog Whistle type words in his e-mails to Don Jr in order to get them noticed by the NSA, apparently so that they could then be referred to a FISA Judge who would authorize the FBI or the NSA or the CIA to start eavesdropping on any conversations that Don JR or Manafort or Kushner then had.

And the Prestige in this clever plan is to show up at the fateful meeting with... nothing?

What harm in reeling the dupes in with some phony documents about whatever - laundered Russkies contributions to the DNC, diplomatic cables showing Hillary lied about something sometime, whatever. But nothing?

Give Team Trump some Fake Dirt. Let them go public and humiliate themselves. If I were on Hillary's payroll and had not yet killed myself that would have been my suggestion.

is it me or has Hot Air become a sewer of anti-trump condoms and shit?

The ewok used to come to AllahPander's defense when the Horde would call him a whiny vag; now he joins in. The site has been worthless since they started using Facebook to comment so its click bait appeal for ads, even the really terrible ones, is nil. Poppin' is off doing his radio show or whatever.

And the Prestige in this clever plan is to show up at the fateful meeting with... nothing?

If you are using it as a way to get a "tap" on Trump Tower, then you don't want a big deal made about the fact that the meeting happened. Planting false information would lead to that.

As it stands the meeting was a big nothing. Goldstone looks like an idiot. The Russian atty is wondering why they weren't receptive to adoption issues, and the Trump campaign is pissed their time was wasted. Move on, forget about it, big nothing, etc.

Meanwhile the computers are chugging away, capturing all that useful data.

I think I just caught Dem Representative Schiff in a lie 10 seconds ago:

Schiff: "Here I think you have quite direct evidence that the Russian Government had damaging information, communicated that to the Campaign...

Where is the proof of that? Is there some actual "proof" that the Russian Government had damaging info? I heard about the Russian dossier and the peeing on the bed, but I thought that was about Trump and was paid for and ginned up by some Brit Agent. Where is the "quite direct evidence that the Russian Government had damaging information"?

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Any one listening to Adam "shifty-shit-4-brains" Schiff on Foxnews ..condemning every person known to Trump as a Russian spymaster?
This is an absolute Castro--Marx--Alinsky tactic of "over throwing US free election via porn-fiction"!!!
What do you think the crew that can't win free-fair elections intentions are, making up, covering up, screwing up our country--because they LOST?
It's nothing good, btw............

When the press, bureaucracies of unaccountable secretary of bull shite, intelligence agencies job to protect, investigate by laws for all, not just "insiders", established politicians report, legislate, serve or honor their country---fairly and equally across all political ideaologies or outcomes......

It might be a beginning of returning trust in the government and media.

Maybe. But, if today is any indication--none of us will live to see it, much less vote in another free, fair election!!

Ps: who is Kat Timpf and why is she employed as a "specialist"? Oh, Lordy...how Fox News has fallen into a Clueless black hole of desperation to be politically correct 😂

Ditto abadman.. :) I must admit looking at this I'm working backwards. Just trying to fit all the data.

The meeting is either BS from Goldstone to show someone in Russia he has connections with Trump, or something else.

As far as collusion goes it seems pretty light, unless the details of the meeting are suspect (i.e. they didn't talk about adoption). If they mapped out a whole hacking plan in 10-20 minutes then there is some level of genius here.

I think ill intent of any party, Trump, Clinton, Obama, The Russians, at the time this particular episode occurred is unlikely.

I'm mot sure enough initiative of intelligence existed on the part of The Clinton or Obama Camps for the FISA conspiracy theory and there was no benefit for either the Trump or Russian camps to set up a meeting where nothing happened.

I can believe this is just another episode of multiple parties in DC jockeying for influence, access or information being spun after the fact to verify preconceived notions of reality.

I just don't think it is BS for the reason our host does. As conspiracy theories go, this one actually holds together pretty well, if only our betters were really that smart.