Westisthebest wrote:Well ill tell you what a i have seen most of the kids in this state play and Danny Ray jermey Okeefe and Paul LaDue are all better hockey players..hooey is good but not that good and also mathiason from grafton is a close one too...

By the way Ray had only 18 points. He was the closest to Hooey of the guys u just named and he doesnt even have half. Paul LaDue had 11 points, and Okeefe had 10. i have no idea how you could even put these three in the same conversation with Hooey. With those 3 players combined they have only 2 more points then hooey did alone. O ya and Mathiason had 9 points so... good try

okay man first of all you must not have a clue what your talkking about considering danny ray could have gone and played for st. louis this year he was drafted ther for your information so to say that hooey is the only one that has a chance of playing somewhere next year makes you sound like quite the ruh-tard

Since when is being a good defenseman all about how many points you can get? Last time i checked the defense and the goalie kept the goals off the scoreboard and the forwards were supposed to put them up. Granted there are different styles of defensemen out there and some like to be a little more in the offensive play. But still, you cant really compare how good defensemen are based on points alone.

Clifford wrote:okay man first of all you must not have a clue what your talkking about considering danny ray could have gone and played for st. louis this year he was drafted ther for your information so to say that hooey is the only one that has a chance of playing somewhere next year makes you sound like quite the ruh-tard

Ok excuse me Clifford... i mean hooey is the only one that has a chance to go play for a USHL team and eventually play D1 hockey, Being that St. Louis is an NA team i dont really see him having much of a future in hockey after one, or two years there if he is lucky.

As for saltyapple how else do you want to compare these defensemen? You rank people on their production, ya form and their positioning make a difference, but that doesnt mean you just ignore their points. If you wanna go by teams that let up the least amount of goals last year south gave up 48 goals in 27 games, while Red River gave up 75 in 27 games. Hooey was a starter all season last year and played more than any of the other D.

NA doesnt produce a lot of D1 players, are you kidding, maybe a couple. By the way i found out last night Danny Ray was drafted by St. Louis in the 6th round, hooey was drafted by Wenatchee in the 1st round, so im pretty sure this arguement is over... Hooey is better

we all know zahoui has the most potential to be mr. hockey this year and that he'll for sure prove it in state which gf rr is gonna take home after gilbertson leads them through edc and out plays everyone in state

ctrain1369 wrote:NA doesnt produce a lot of D1 players, are you kidding, maybe a couple. By the way i found out last night Danny Ray was drafted by St. Louis in the 6th round, hooey was drafted by Wenatchee in the 1st round, so im pretty sure this arguement is over... Hooey is better

The NAHL currently has 50 d1 commitements playing in the league with more likely to come before the year is over. Obviously ctrain has no idea what he is talking about

wow your obviously quite biased about fargo south...josh hooey would probably not crack the top four D men for central(danny ray,paul ladue,jeremy okefe,david nelson) maybe hes better then david nelson but i doubt it, i would even say Derek Sand from West Fargo is better...sure hooey had some points last year but you watch paul ladue and danny rays stats this year they will be right up there with hooey's stats from last year

Shots are generally unreliable, but I posted them anyways. The scorekeepers do really bad jobs of tracking them most games. Central pretty much won when it didn't count. South had already clinched EDC in their first win. These teams played pretty close all year though, along with Bismarck clearly the top three in the state during the regular season. As for the 3rd place game, every year it's a joke. I've said it before and I'll say it again, something needs to be done so that it's not a wash of a game. The players simply don't care and they feel like they've been throttled from the tournament after being denied a shot at the big show and sent to the Purpur. It's an insult to injury, no TV round, nothing. An example of this, South played all their seniors, their backup goaltender in net (like they did with Bismarck, smart coach), and Central did the same with their seniors (though they had no senior backup tendie).

superstar 701 wrote:"Hooey was a starter all season last year and played more than any of the other D." because south had no D core..

washedupcentralkid wrote:wow your obviously quite biased about fargo south...josh hooey would probably not crack the top four D men for central(danny ray,paul ladue,jeremy okefe,david nelson) maybe hes better then david nelson but i doubt it, i would even say Derek Sand from West Fargo is better...sure hooey had some points last year but you watch paul ladue and danny rays stats this year they will be right up there with hooey's stats from last year

Fargo South had the best defensive core last year. Hooey, Narveson, Burdick, Wagner and Luecke all would have started for Central last year and would have started this year as well at Central. I do think that Central runs their systems better though, but that's coaching. They do a better job at neutral zone coverage and puck control than South. That's not really defense though, that's more preventative defense.

Clifford wrote:Yeah hooeys ice time was deffinately substantial South is known for over playing there defenseman

Yes, they do. Wurden for example. Then again, if you think about it, almost all teams do this when they have a 'stud' player in their lineup.

all the biased central fans need to stay off the site. hooey is and was by far the best defenseman in the state. hands down. he was a hug role in souths late success prior to state. okeefe? ray? they allplay together. and still struggle. hooey is far better

hockeyrocks wrote:Hooey doesnt have a ring on his finger, Ray, Okeefe, and Ladue does. Is that a real struggle?

They're saying individually Hooey is the best defenseman, which I would personally agree with. However, it depends on how you look at defense. If you're looking at defense as a person that only plays defense, he definitely wouldn't be the best, but of all the defensemen in past years, he's the best since probably Wurden. Galb/Deuce were probably better defense, but they weren't very offensive.

Edit: Please keep the arguments civil, I don't want to have to edit/delete posts and possibly threads in this forum like I had to last week. Thanks.