I did think it was nice and progressive of them to offer grappling as a requirement for the black belt I wonder who they wrestle and if they offer any ground fighting in the school itself . I also like the fact that for the black belts they have " Multiple Opponent " matches I hope its with other black belts .

I just think they are freaking weird ... and expensive ... atleast they arent wearing tabis and throwing sand @ each other right ?

I actually started TKD in Moore, Oklahoma when I was going to OU. There is an old Korean GM (9th Dan) that teaches TKD there. Well, I think he is still there. It was GM Kyu Il Cho and he was pretty old in the mid 90s when I was training there so he may be retired now. Didn't have any of that crap described on the site.

Toby, Taekwondo is not the only style that’s been 'Americanized' for mass consumption by school operators. If you look long and hard enough you will see many styles are using terms in styles has been irrevocably screwed-up here in North-America.Using english to indentify hand and punching movements.

There are even Kung-fu schools that use the term of ‘Dan’ and Blackbelt for their senior students. Eventhough, Kung-fu probably have never had belt ranks of any kind to demote seniority.Until kung-fu had been introduce in the US in the 50's and 60's they had used terms in Chinese.

There are even Kung-fu schools that use the term of ‘Dan’ and Blackbelt for their senior students. Eventhough, Kung-fu probably have never had belt ranks of any kind to demote seniority.Until kung-fu had been introduce in the US in the 50's and 60's they had used terms in Chinese.

I think that "oath" has it's origins in one of the "running a better martial arts school" magazines or books. I really don't have any problem with that, because it's not a bad standard to hold yourself to regardless of it's origin. Kindof like taekwondo's 5 tenets. They're guidelines enough for me.