I recently bought the '13 GT500 with 662HP. If you let the tires warm up a bit, the power goes down nicely enough without fighting the traction control too much. If they're cold the traction control might as well not be there. It will never corner like a 458 Italia, but controlling the muscle is what's fun to some of us, not winning a road course competition.

Marcus Aurelius:Good luck putting down all that power with their piece of crap suspension. If you stick to a straight line on a very smooth surface, you might be OK.

You'd think that a fixed rear axel would really affect cornering performance, but side-by-side tests with a pro driving the 2011 Mustang GT and 2011 M3 show there's not much different on an actual track:

Had a guy in a convertible 2011-2012 Shelby want to play on the way home from work last week (in one of the biggest speed trap parts of town no less). I'm in my stone-stock WRX wagon. Like to play outside your weight class much mister?

I think it's the (functional) hood scoop on WRX's that does it to DB's. So many cars, including Mustangs, have non-functional scoops, they think it makes the car look mean or something. I mean, FFS, I drive a goddamn wagon.

czei:Marcus Aurelius: Good luck putting down all that power with their piece of crap suspension. If you stick to a straight line on a very smooth surface, you might be OK.

You'd think that a fixed rear axel would really affect cornering performance, but side-by-side tests with a pro driving the 2011 Mustang GT and 2011 M3 show there's not much different on an actual track:

cameroncrazy1984:Awesome, that's right around when I'm planning on getting a new one. If it does have an independent suspension, look out. It could actually corner!

If you are seriously considering a '15, have your research and order ready to place by December 2013.

For example, last day to order a '13 is Nov. 29 2012 (at this point). Order banks for '14's will open in December 2012. Production will change over from '13 to '14 in March 2013. If you want to avoid the ridiculous mark-ups dealers are putting on cars, order early to get straight MSRP (unlikely you will beat that anywhere).

Ask the dealer about their allocation history, and if they are part of the Ford SVT sales plan. If they have not sold Shelby's before, they are unlikely to get an allocation. SVT certified dealers usually only get 1 or 2 allocations. Some dealers will take your deposit and put the order in anyway knowing full well that you will not get that car.

Outtaphase:For example, last day to order a '13 is Nov. 29 2012 (at this point). Order banks for '14's will open in December 2012. Production will change over from '13 to '14 in March 2013. If you want to avoid the ridiculous mark-ups dealers are putting on cars, order early to get straight MSRP (unlikely you will beat that anywhere).

Ask the dealer about their allocation history, and if they are part of the Ford SVT sales plan. If they have not sold Shelby's before, they are unlikely to get an allocation. SVT certified dealers usually only get 1 or 2 allocations. Some dealers will take your deposit and put the order in anyway knowing full well that you will not get that car

I'm already ahead of you. My father has done taxes for the guy who owns the Ford dealership in his hometown for 30 years. I'm planning to go through him.

czei:Marcus Aurelius: Good luck putting down all that power with their piece of crap suspension. If you stick to a straight line on a very smooth surface, you might be OK.

You'd think that a fixed rear axel would really affect cornering performance, but side-by-side tests with a pro driving the 2011 Mustang GT and 2011 M3 show there's not much different on an actual track: