Do you understand the meaning of sarcasm? It is not my fault that you are too uneducated about these things to not have gotten it since everyone else did. I don’t have to back away from anything I did not proclaim to be fact.

Don’t start this game with me again, zep. You will lose and look stupid as usual. I already let you off by not pursuing the previous exchanges which you ran away from.

Everyone that receives a benefit from stem cells are not on keto. THE POINT, was that there are a ton of potential factors as to why the stem cell treatment worked. It could be a combination of diet, drugs, stem cells, radiation, etc… It could be placebo.

CONTROLLED STUDIES are required to determine if the treatment itself is effective.

This is typical of you, though. You see one factor and act as if it exists in a vacuum. That is not how life works.

Zeppelin795:

YOU think hamster model is only tested on hamsters.

You still won’t admit you were wrong? Jesus, dude.

Zeppelin795:

Again, more suffering. Bravo, for defending the policies of the very industry you claim to be indifferent about.

You’re an idiot.

Zeppelin795:

However you defend them any chance you get, helping to contribute to the public’s suffering. You must be so proud.

Sure, I’m proud of using my brain. Try it some time.

Zeppelin795:

The vast majority do.

Based on testimonials from the company that sells the treatment. Derp.

Zeppelin795:

They have worked with several American University’s. And they have conducted there own clinical trials. I am unsure if the results are yet published.

Shocking

Zeppelin795:

I was actually chosen for the clinical trial but was kept from participating by a dipshit American doctor who didn’t believe in it but had faith in the garbage drugs from pharma. He ought to have his medical license taken away.

Yes, a DOCTOR with YEARS OF MEDICAL TRAINING should lose their license because one of his patients disagrees with his assessment.

Zeppelin795:

Yes it is. You have several times noted that the Stem Cell Institute makes a profit and have related that if they have done it, it must be okay for pharma. How stupid.

Again, dumb. Disingenuous and dumb. Keep fighting this boogeyman if it makes you feel better, though.

Zeppelin795:

Just goes to show that you don’t even understand the fundamentals.

You STILL think the studies you posted were done on people when it was very clearly shown they were conducted on hamsters.

Zeppelin795:

Happens all the time. And you are obviously embarrassed by it. However, it is what your ideology demands if you are to make it viable. Deny the truth.

The only thing I’m mildly embarrassed about is continuing to argue with a fucking moron.

Zeppelin795:

Yes, I’m sure most people on here say the same thing. They volunteer and donate to charities. But somehow the problems still exist. Something isn’t working. You claim to help others while simultaneously bellowing stupid arguments that help them to suffer. Being against Medicare-For-All , which is supported by the majority of the public and also approving of the monopolistic behavior of the pharma industry.

One of the dumbest things you’ve ever written. Bravo.

Zeppelin795:

Yep that is the reason. Gawd, you’re stupid.

It was a joke, simpleton.

Zeppelin795:

Peyton Manning’s reported stem cell therapy has not been proven to work.*

It’s just that he has one of his best seasons ever, after the “unproven” treatment.

Steroids.

Zeppelin795:

We don’t really know what exactly what it does, biologically.”

In other words, people may be getting positive benefits but since we are not exactly sure, keep this as a non-option.

No, since we don’t know exactly what it does biologically, we should figure that shit out before selling it as a viable treatment option, dipshit.

Zeppelin795:

Getting in the way of positive benefits?

Getting in the way of proof that they work.

Zeppelin795:

Equate all profit as the same.

Just stop with this, Jesus.

Zeppelin795:

So a multi-million dollar industry that produces positive results for the vast majority of those who’ve tried the therapy is the same as the multi-billion dollar pharma industry that produces mediocre results, at best.

Hey, don’t start knocking Redwall now. I freaking loved those as a kid.

Also, I am truly amazed at how many topics in PWI end up talking about Stem Cell Treatment. Arguably the most common recurring theme in this forum even over the President, International Relations, Domestic affairs, liberalism, conservatism…ya know, politics and world affairs type stuff…

Potentially even more amazing is that I have yet to actually learn anything productive about Stem Cell Treatment after all that discussion. What a ride.