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Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball.Fri, 18 Aug 2017 04:38:38 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: peymax1693http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2014/04/07/a-deep-thought-on-derek-jeter-and-a-must-click-on-yasiel-puig/comment-page-2/#comment-682589
Tue, 08 Apr 2014 16:42:26 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=517116#comment-682589Exactly.
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Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:39:22 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=517116#comment-682407And we all know when teams trash a guy on the way out the door that everything they say about him is 100% true.
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Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:30:38 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=517116#comment-682393The runner actually scored easily. It was a baserunning blunder and then he dogged it. Way to be an enabling fanboy, though.
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Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:24:40 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=517116#comment-682390I suppose Puig is the only player in baseball who grew up in abject poverty…that must be it.
]]>By: chip56http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2014/04/07/a-deep-thought-on-derek-jeter-and-a-must-click-on-yasiel-puig/comment-page-2/#comment-682386
Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:20:53 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=517116#comment-682386and what point might that be?

I get that there’s a culture shock to going from an impoverished dictatorship where you have to steal soap to one where you can walk into any store and buy whatever you want. But I’m also willing to bet that there are plenty of other ballplayers who grew up in conditions that were almost as bad and don’t act like a-holes.

Holding a person to a different standard because of race or ethnic background is racist. What LeBetard is saying is, essentially, that you can’t expect Puig to conduct himself the same way Mike Trout does because Puig is Cuban and Trout’s an American.

And, if being young and Cuban was an excuse for acting like an a-hole, then maybe someone should tell that to Aroldis Chapman and Yeonis Cespedes who don’t seem to make nearly the kinds of headlines that Puig does.

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Tue, 08 Apr 2014 12:38:55 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=517116#comment-682351I basically said the same thing; the fundamentals of baseball are the same everywhere. I doubt his Cuban coaches didn’t tell him he needed to hit the cutoff man.

In a way, it’s a slap in the face to Latin American players to excuse Puig’s fundamental lapses on “cultural differences”, as if Latin American players aren’t taught how to play a fundamentally sound game.

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Tue, 08 Apr 2014 03:36:40 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=517116#comment-682273So I picture it this way: Puig wanders around the bare halls of his huge, fancy apartment filled with unopened boxes of electric can openers and Rolex watches while waiting for the lechon asado to warm up in the microwave, and then goes for fast drive over to Bootie LA to squeeze on the talent. I get it. But what does that have to do with hitting the cutoff man.
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Tue, 08 Apr 2014 03:23:42 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=517116#comment-682265There is no point in anything, no point at all. All is sham, all is dross.

The leech’s kiss, the squid’s embrace,
The prurient ape’s defiling touch.
And do you like the human race?
No, not much.

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Tue, 08 Apr 2014 03:19:57 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=517116#comment-682260I saw that too. The runner ahead was heading for the plate and Jeter was taking the extra base and got caught on the cutoff. He stopped midway to avoid any chance of getting tagged out before the runner scored. Apparently, he cared more about the run than any entertainment value to you.
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Tue, 08 Apr 2014 01:24:39 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=517116#comment-682214good job missing the point.
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Tue, 08 Apr 2014 01:24:09 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=517116#comment-682213is that all? by all means then, let him each doritos, it doesn’t matter, the dodgers are still ahead on the deal!
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Tue, 08 Apr 2014 00:06:53 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=517116#comment-682188uh…maybe to, you know, respect the game? play hard, play to win…that sort of thing?
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Mon, 07 Apr 2014 22:27:50 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=517116#comment-682157I am not on Facebook. I do not comment on my own actions. I only give commands to brighten your days. Or insult you. Either way, you deserve it. So, stop bothering me. And I don’t like that you made me spend five minutes of my increasingly short life span thinking about read/read/red/reed and trying to come up with some fun puns. And failing. So stop that, too.

Damn whippersnappers.

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Mon, 07 Apr 2014 22:15:16 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=517116#comment-682148So because Puig is young and from a different/harsher culture different standards should apply? Is that rule only good if you come from another country or does it apply to players who grew up in harsh conditions here too?

This is racist garbage. White, black, Cuban, American. Same standards should apply.

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Mon, 07 Apr 2014 22:12:17 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=517116#comment-682145Why do you care how hard they run if they have a tangible, net-positive effect on their team’s success, like Jeter has? If you want to get upset about Skip Schumacher or Nick Punto dogging it, that’s fine, but why should a player with preternatural talent risk injury when it’s clearly unnecessary?
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Mon, 07 Apr 2014 21:43:55 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=517116#comment-682129For all of us regular folks, it is a big investment that the Dodgers made in Puig…

But in baseball terms it’s peanuts.

If Puig keeps playing well, he and his agent will gripe about it in another year or two.

Puig is only signed for 7 yrs and $42 million total…

That’s only $6 million per year, although the amounts are different over the years. He’s playing for $3.7 million this year and it goes up to $6.2 next yr then $7.2, then $8.2 and then finally $9.2 million in the 2018 season.

Also, Dirk Nowitzki’s pre-game meal used to be a sack of Lay’s until his owner put him together with a nutritionist.

The Dodger’s need to step up and help this young man they’ve made such a big investment in.

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Mon, 07 Apr 2014 20:57:09 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=517116#comment-682107It is nice to see Puig holding up when others would have exploded by now.

It is harder to hold up than to avoid placing the blame on others.

Just the other day I was reading Beto Villa’s tweet (he is a Yankees narrator of games in spanish) saying Melky Cabrera was traded by the Yankees after the 2009 season because of favoritism since he was better than Gardner but the Yanks opted for the white guy over the latino, while he didnt mention that Melky was traded for being a bad influence on Canó with their all-night escapades and arriving drunk, plus enabling Canó’s lack of respect towards the manager and coaches (the whole hustle thing, the ‘i am too good to bunt’ and his demands of being 4th bat to increase his value before free agency).

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Mon, 07 Apr 2014 20:47:16 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=517116#comment-682101Understandable outside of the stadium since many parts of hispanoamérica doesn’t have what is viewed as “luxuries” (bathrooms with sensors, brands upon brands of organic dog food with vitamins because heck how dogs and cats survived thousands of years without organic vitamined food??) but inside the playing field every one plays what is viewed as the right way:

always hustle, if a manager asks you to run you run harder, play small ball whenever is neccesary (México won a Caribbean Series in 1986 after their 4th bat sacrificed himself in a squeeze play… Kruk was playing with ’em that year), pitchers know that they have no predetermined roles and are willing to pitch whenever is neccesary.

in so many ways hispanic players display a heads-up old-school type of baseball, which is how they grew playing ball with rocks as baseballs, broom sticks or tree branches as bats and cardboard as gloves, our bases were imaginary spots in the ground and we had fun, boy how we laughed and hustled and wanted to be the perfect player, one who can field, throw, bat average, hit lots of homeruns, steal bases and hell yeah, all that while pitching perfect game after perfect game… something a kid who rose to hero fame in 1957 did in México, an ambidextrous pitcher by the name of Ángel Macías who at one point pitched 11 no hitters in a season, seven of them perfect games, and six of them in a row. he could pitch with both hands and was the best hitter of the mexican team that beat the us kids in williamsport, the first time a foreign team won (curious how the us always makes it to the final by default).

Puig is nothing but a big kid full of joy playing baseball, which in Cuba helped him because baseball players are treated better by the government with bigger rations than non-sport people (who get 1 or 2 pounds of rice per month). Puig was carefully treated by other cuban defectors that even outside of cuba they gave Yasiel their food when in captivity awaiting US permission to access US territory (ultimately he went to México). There is something called “la cubanada” but in this case Puig is not making excuses (for doing something knowingly and then say he did ‘not know’ because he was ‘raised differently’), and I think that has something to do in how the media is treating him (Vinny Castilla, Valenzuela, El Duque, Contreras and others have faced criticisms and were at some point mocked but not like Yasiel).

in the playing field he has showed deficiencies common amongst amateur and novice players, it is nothing new. Outside of the playing field he might need help to avoid bad influences.

in some ways he reminds me of another famous cuban: José Canseco, who faced the same criticisms but directly from his baseball peers, and it molded the type of guy we knew after steroids helped him to build a longeve baseball career (in his own words).
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