JCoz wrote:I'm good with the deal. He played well this season, if he gets hurt again, so be it, this isn't baseball. Would have been idiotic to let him walk with the cap space on hand and other holes to fill.

Yep- Money ain't an issue and D'Qwell had a really good season. Guy's smart, fast, makes the plays he needs to make and captains a pretty good defense. Plenty of players to complain about. Fail to see how he's one.

You gotta love a fan base who will in one breath lament the fact that this organization has continually shot itself in the foot and that no free agents want to come here and play, and in the next breathe bitch about giving this guy money to stay.

pup wrote:The hole is the same with Jackson here as it would be without him here. At MLB.

MLB, #2 in NFL for tackles. Yet Browns 3rd most yards allowed on the ground. Sorry, my MLB's job is to not be the leader on the 30th ranked rush defensive unit.

Bullshit. That's a false frame around the issue and a vast oversimplification of the rushing d issues. Look, dude isn't ray Lewis, but he's fills a starting position just fine. The outside linebackers need to be replaced along with our LE, 2nd CB, and FS before any upgrades in the middle need to be considered. Letting him go would have been fucking stupid. Period the end.

pup wrote:The hole is the same with Jackson here as it would be without him here. At MLB.

MLB, #2 in NFL for tackles. Yet Browns 3rd most yards allowed on the ground. Sorry, my MLB's job is to not be the leader on the 30th ranked rush defensive unit.

Bullshit. That's a false frame around the issue and a vast oversimplification of the rushing d issues. Look, dude isn't ray Lewis, but he's fills a starting position just fine. The outside linebackers need to be replaced along with our LE, 2nd CB, and FS before any upgrades in the middle need to be considered. Letting him go would have been fucking stupid. Period the end.

I agree with jcoz (as weird as that may seem). Would you take James Laurinaitis instead? Would you shit can Mathis and Freeney since Indy couldn't stop the run?

Might really wanna look at your shitty offense not staying on the filed as a contributing factor to your defense not stopping the run.

You're right. But DQ gets paid more than Ray Lewis, and just about every other MLB in football. Nature of the beast, I guess. Nice player and glad he is still here, but over paying for non-playmaking LBs seems to be a trend. JB has it right, as long as it's front loaded there's really nothing more we could do.

I don't need to be patient, they're going to be shit forever. - CDT, discussing my favorite NFL team

There is no Cleveland discount right now. Teams like the Browns have to overpay to get/keep FA's.

This will be apparent if they try to pick up one of the big Free Agents in a couple weeks. Imagine what it would cost Cleveland to sign Mario Williams as opposed to - say - New England. The numbers would be staggering... likely why they'll only pick up some mid-level dudes.