@lionindirtyyorkyland: there is no saving to Millwall or free up wages we have just paid up his contract in full as with all the other players recently they can then sign for other clubs with a shed load of cash in the bank but it gets them out of the Club

@robo:
Cannot be the case as we would definitely be rid of Hoyte by now?
I'm shocked by this, we have completely wasted an opportunity to use a player with his quality, bad move if you ask me, can't imagine 6 months of savings can be that much with pay off negotiated?
I do hope we will now try to sign a few players good enough to inspire us fans as wall need all the support we can get!
Feels like a league 1 move to me, not looking good but there's still such a long way to go?

@robo: By mutual consent might mean that they just go and can look for another club without having problems with fees etc, and may not mean we pay the contract up in full. You have no idea what the terms were, unless you were part of the negotiating team, probably not!!

@nocalves: I agree, were better getting the players who have no future here out the door. Better to have a squad who have a future here then a squad of players waiting for there P45's. It doesn't matter if we have to pay up contracts, it's worth that to get a better spirit in the dressing room.

@lionindirtyyorkyland: That was the problem he was on strikers money but couldn't score, we were paying for past reputations as usual and he was past his best by date. He did ok in MF and put in a shift but he was not a MF so we were paying a premium price for someone who was not producing and was not as good in his new position as what we could get for similar wages so thanks Scott and good luck.

@MFC Lion:soon to be starting training again, was the last thing I heard. As he's had a reoccurring injury on his calf, they're being very cautious with letting him come back to full training.
Will be interesting to see what MFC does with him.. He's a useful player when fit.. USELESS when not, which is most of the time! With the way things are, I don't think we can justify having on the books..
Carlos Edwards is another question mark... AGE is the biggest issue with him.... Such a shame both are injured. Both have/had a lot to offer and both 'were' captain material IMO.
P.s. Replace an UNFIT midfield enforcer with a FIT one! Done! Okeefe or Rudy would be good....

Madness - we are so blessed with creative players that we can afford to get rid of the only one we have.
It will be like the full back situation - get rid of what we had - and bring in worse!
The club has lost the plot

@crow191049: he was not creative he was a striker who was passed it and could not score and had become an average midfield player who made the whole team unbalanced because he did not fit either position

Just waiting for 82wall's post on the subject then we will all know whether it's a good thing or bad thing that McD's left us. I apparently don't know anything about football but he does.... So - 82wall - is it good or bad?

finances - tim cahill (say) £50k a week ,for10 weeks - 10 home games - £25 a seat would mean an average of 2,000 extra punters a game to break even - that would easily happen - a big signing could be made to work financially - whn yo consider we have just saved £150,000 till end of season with mac then it all is feasible

Fair play on his part for agreeing to do the right thing and help the club by leaving rather than hanging on to the terms of his contract to take his money, if only his boss would show the same gumption if this mess continues.

IMO he wasnt creative, he could hold the ball up, twist, turn, then pass a safe ball, but i dont think he was comfortable in that position, and to be fair he worked hard in every game i saw him in! his natural position would have been alongside the Hoff or Fuller but thats not holloways style of play. Plus he isnt a shrinking violet, and i'm sure he let holloway and the assistant know.

Personally I thought he was one of the better players this season (but there's not that many that have stood out). With him going and he must have been on around £15k a week that will be one big saving for the club, that hopefully they will invest on younger and better players. Look back over the last couple of weeks with the players that have gone I don't see it hampering our chances of staying up. The cull is well under way, but still the biggest wage thief is there. When is Hoyte going to be shown the door!!

@Block 8:
agree ! another player that needs a run in the team in a position he naturally plays, attacking midfield, so he can get a bit of confidence, mind you the way its going he will be one of our longest serving players!!!!!

If Fabbrini delivers potential we'll all be saying Mcdonald who at end of season. True enough he tried hard but goal scoring and assist record is ooor for his position and money will now be available for 2 or 3 more players.

Mixed opinions on here about McDonald.
For me, the point is that wherever ho goes it will be a downward step from the Championship. Just like all the others that have gone or soon will be he wasn't good enough. Incredible that we've got so many players who aren't good enough at this level. Good to see an enema being adminstered to remove all the waste.

good luck scott , liked u as a player , always tried to give 100 percent , worked under to shocking managers , full respect for wanting to go play football , instead of just picking up wages and sitting on the sidelines, not feeling to confident in who ollie is going to bring in ,the board has to wake up and look how much money has been thrown away on duff players , ie DJ , JACKSON, THE STRIKER FROM WATFORD, HOYTE , CHAPLOW, ANGEL , THE ARGIE, FULL BACK , I CAN GO ON , THESE TWO MANAGERS HAVE RIPPED MY CLUB APART , WITH CROWDS FALLING YEAR AFTER YEAR, AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO SIGN A 31 YEAR DEFENDER WHOS HAD HIS BETTER DAYS , AND OLLIE TALKS ABOUT PEOPLE WE CAN SELL ON , WE HAVE CANCELLED A PLAYER THAT GIVE HIS BEST , BUT WE KEEP A 35 YEAR OLD STRIKER THAT TELLS US HARD WORKING FANS THAT PAY HARD EARN MONEY TO TRAVEL , TO F##K OFF , AS A LONG STANDING SEASON TICKET HOLDER , I AM FEELING LIKE JACKING , SEEMS LIKE THE CLUB ARE GEARING US UP FOR DIV 1, THIS BLOKE WILL TAKE US DOWN , AND LEAVE US SKINT ,

@munson68: ollie is moving players on he doesn't need and who aren't playing enough football for their benefit, he is also buying players he thinks can keep us up because the players he inherit couldn't give a s****, maybe if people stopped moaning slagging off and booing these players they might perform better,

@munson68: for f*** sake, stop this bitching, ask yourself this, do you go to millwall to watch us win leagues and cups, do you support a team that has bundles of money and 20 thousand bums on seats, you go in the hope we can compete at a good level, we always yo-yo between championship and league 1, i will never stop going to millwall no matter what, win or lose , up or down, die hard fans will never turn their backs on the club they love, where else you gonna go, shopping with the misses, gardening duties, f*** that. millwall forever end of!

@TONY BLOCK28: on one hand i respect your opinion , on the other i dont agree , i go millwall to watch a team play with passion, what ever div we are in , u tell me is where are the craigs , robbos , rhino, claridge, denzel, players with passion , do u think upson fuller , webster, chaplow, angel, briggs, wilkinson, other than edwards, and williams, and mcdonald , who else has give it there all , thats my point weather mac had scored goals or not , he worked harder than most , and in my book thats ok , i will be the first to come on here and eat humble pie ,if he turns it around , BUT DONT TRUST HIS SIGNINGS , and i will be there what ever div , BUT I WILL SUPPORT MY TEAM NOT OLLIE

@munson68: aint knocking your opinions on passion, but it gets under my skin when fans say they're gonna chuck it in, players come and go, as do managers, fans turn up whatever, or at least i do. we will be on the up again soon i hope, until then I'm gonna take the p*** out of the players who warm up in front of block 28, its always good for a laugh and raises spirits no end ( ravel morrison comes to mind).

I was a fan of McD and thought he always gave his all, as well as being one of the most technically gifted players. Not a lot of goals but he was a good attacking midfielder. this does open up a chance for Fabrini or Upson to take that role.

@glyngo: I AGREE I THOUGHT HE WAS THE ENGINE ROOM OF THE TEAM . HIS TIRELESS RUNNING BOX TO BOX AND TRYING TO USE THE BALL A GREAT FOOTBALLER TO ADVANCED FOR OUR PLAYERS THAT DID NOT READ THE GAME ON HIS LEVEL .YOU MUST REMEMBER THAT HE HAS PLAYED AT A MUCH HIGHER LEVEL AND THE TRANSFER FEES THAT WERE PAID IN THE PAST PRIOR TO HIM COMING TO THE DEN ON A FREE TRANSFER WHAT A RESULT . GOOD LUCK TO YOU SCOTT THANKS FOR YOUR EFFORTS

I doubt he is trying to leave us skint he had already jogged on 70% of the players everyone has been moaning about he didn't have to but he is thinking long term... Disagree if you want but the state were in isn't holloways fault we have been here now for 3 seasons the lads at the end of last season worked hard and pulled the mirical survival off I would have give them all a chance this season aswell. At least now he has seen it all he seen the players in a fight he seen them on a high and on a low so now he knows who he wants and is making it clear to them and us. Look at the big picture he is trying to build a better millwall for the future if if you negative haters can see it then your blind remember before us he had a gleaming reputation in this league stated clearly by the desire of us before we got him so as much as you think he is doing this on purpose he isn't if he fails with us AND WALKS AWAY he got no chance getting taken serious if we do go down this year and that's IF I bet you dam straight he will get us back up straight away he wants us to become a formidable force and I'm gonna back him until we are !! And so should ALL OF YOU !!

@cmj23: I see what you're saying about his credibility and wanting to build for the future but on the other hand, you have to admit that some his decisions have been a little bit unfathomable. It's all very well having a vision but if he can't achieve it with our budget and our squad, with seemingly no plan b, is he still the right man for the job. Unless this major clearout and rebuild comes off, I am inclined to believe he's not.

@woodenlion: obviously it's gone tits up this season but I have to disagree about having no plan b. During the course of a game we've seen plan a, b, c and d all with the same result and players. We've known with the bulk of this squad that we'll struggle until someone has the balls to get rid of em well ollie has started the ball rolling. Not sure where it'll get us but we'll soon find out. I have my doubts but I'm not getting paid to sort our house out.
We can only sit and wait.

Holloway is not a very good manager. Look at Eddie Howe at Bournemouth for example and you will see why. He has total control of all football matters at his club and they are playing an attractive and effective style of play and sit top of the league. IH on the other hand has the same level of control yet 'his' club are staring relegation in the face. McDonald going, Fred on loan, playing Dunne at CB and offering Forde a long extended contract etc.. proves he is not the man for the job. Get someone decent in soon or we face Championship exile for a very long time. NOLU

The team had needed major surgery for about four years and IH was right to give players the chance but time has come to cut out the the players that are not up to it at least McDonald knew his time of playing every week was up and he has a desire to play every week and it frees some more of the wage budget up as mangers all make mistakes yes we need a 20 a season striker and experienced cb and let the youngsters have their chance a blend of youth and experience at least IH is giving youth a chance unlike KJ so we need to support the team through thick and thin. Because no one likes us we don't care.

Good luck Scott.
Personally I thought he alright and worked for his wages. In the summer ollie changed his position which he was reluctant to do but he done it and knuckled down with no fuss. Shame the rest of em didn't and if we're all honest he didn't exactly have any decent players around him especially up top.
I hope ollie can now use the funds it'll free up to good effect.
Thought we had worse that needed shifting a lot sooner than McD oh well
Onwards and upwards.
Thanks for your efforts Scott.

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Good. On way too much money, makes space for new blood. Glimpses of quality but very seldom seen. Next out Chaplow, Woolford, Shittu, Bailey, Hoyte, Dunne, Beevers. Need to give youth a chance, v glad about Sid Nelson who looks like he will be a Millwall legend and knows what the club is all about. Onyedinma will be quality for us as well. Need a CB, midfield general and a striker. In Ollie I trust.

Read in the current bun (must be true) that we have signed 17 year old Lfie Kitt from Maidstone beating Charlton to sign him meant to be a promising youngster one for the future any one know about him and is it true but we still need a good solid CB good in the air and a bit of pace to get us out of this mess that's what I would be looking at if I was IH on his jolly to Europe this weekend

@kell: he's only having a trial couple weeks training and a couple games. Charlton were very keen but he chose us. He started as a full back but was converted into a Center half. Highly rated at Maidstone. Wonder if pavey had any influence. They're certainly doing something right down there might be worth paying them as a feeder club there's an awful lot of interest in their players the past couple yrs.

F*** me I see a lot of bad feelings towards IH on here - he's got rid of McDonald because he's not a good footballer and was one of the top earners! Seems holloway is damned if he does damned if he don't! Get behind the manager he isn't going anywhere unlike scott McDonald!

Watch Man Utd last night and the reason they didn't score was they held the ball too long in midfield , this was Macs big problem held the ball too long allowing defenders to set, not allowing Gregory to get on the end of a fast pass. We won't miss him......honest.

Look how well organised Bradford, Middlesborough and even Cambridge are at the back compared to the shambles our defence are at the moment. The difference in the goal keepers and the opportunities created for their strikers. Whose responsible? The players, the coaches or the manager or a combination of all three?

Average goal ratio of one in ten for a player that spends most of his time in the final third! I'd say that pretty poor! Not really fussed about this one at all. I say balls to him. Look to lower leagues and bring in a hungry youngster that fits in well with the youth boys. I have to admit, Im loving this mass cull! It will soon be a new wall full of young hungry lads that give their all for the shirt. Just what we have all been waiting for! Bring it on! Chaplow, Bailey, Hoyte, Forde, Shittu and Dunne next please Ollie. Keep Sid as Captain and Williams vice. COYL!