1. it was "synthetic" pot and while I have no direct experience with the stuff, I do have a relative who was in a bad car accident when they freaked while on the stuff.

2. Word is, this was #3. LSU policy for athletes states 1st offense is basically nothing, 2nd is "15% of remaining games that season" suspension ( he missed the Auburn game for a rumored positive test last year ), #3 is mandatory 1 year suspension, entry into a program, etc, and #4 is permanently gone.

3. The football program will not comment on if he has a chance to come back in 2013 or not - despite what USA Today et al say ( they are connected to Glenn Guilbeau, a piece of shit in Shreveport who admittedly just wants to stir the pot ).

As for Tyrann himself, while I firmly believe people are responsible for their own actions no matter their upbringing, do realize that his biological mother is ( or was? ) a drug addict, his biological dad is in jail for murder, his grandpa who was raising him passed away when he was 5, and ever since he has been raised by his Aunt & Uncle ( now know as his real parents ) in a rather rough area.

Those things aren't excuses - they are facts. So when I hear he's in a rehab program, I have to believe its legitimate; not just for addiction, but also to get away from a bad crowd that was rumored he still hung out with despite those folks not even being enrolled at LSU.

As for a 'PR move by LSU to get him back on the team'... well, that's just ignorant. Les Miles kicked Ryan Perrilloux off the team, a starting QB who reminded many of Micheal Vick in college. That loss led to LSU's mess at QB with Jefferson and Lee for the years to come. LSU has only ever had one major violation and it was recently when an assistant coach lined up a JuCo guy to get the apartment of a former player ( note - Hicks, who was just drafted this year by the Saints, paid for the apartment himself ) and made too many calls to said player. Hicks never played a snap and was removed from the team before the season even started, the coach was "allowed to find a new job elsewhere", the incident was self reported, and the self imposed sanctions were actually lightened by the NCAA ( 2 schollie loss down to 1 and such ). LSU doesn't mess around.

1. it was "synthetic" pot and while I have no direct experience with the stuff, I do have a relative who was in a bad car accident when they freaked while on the stuff.

2. Word is, this was #3. LSU policy for athletes states 1st offense is basically nothing, 2nd is "15% of remaining games that season" suspension ( he missed the Auburn game for a rumored positive test last year ), #3 is mandatory 1 year suspension, entry into a program, etc, and #4 is permanently gone.

3. The football program will not comment on if he has a chance to come back in 2013 or not - despite what USA Today et al say ( they are connected to Glenn Guilbeau, a piece of shit in Shreveport who admittedly just wants to stir the pot ).

As for Tyrann himself, while I firmly believe people are responsible for their own actions no matter their upbringing, do realize that his biological mother is ( or was? ) a drug addict, his biological dad is in jail for murder, his grandpa who was raising him passed away when he was 5, and ever since he has been raised by his Aunt & Uncle ( now know as his real parents ) in a rather rough area.

Those things aren't excuses - they are facts. So when I hear he's in a rehab program, I have to believe its legitimate; not just for addiction, but also to get away from a bad crowd that was rumored he still hung out with despite those folks not even being enrolled at LSU.

As for a 'PR move by LSU to get him back on the team'... well, that's just ignorant. Les Miles kicked Ryan Perrilloux off the team, a starting QB who reminded many of Micheal Vick in college. That loss led to LSU's mess at QB with Jefferson and Lee for the years to come. LSU has only ever had one major violation and it was recently when an assistant coach lined up a JuCo guy to get the apartment of a former player ( note - Hicks, who was just drafted this year by the Saints, paid for the apartment himself ) and made too many calls to said player. Hicks never played a snap and was removed from the team before the season even started, the coach was "allowed to find a new job elsewhere", the incident was self reported, and the self imposed sanctions were actually lightened by the NCAA ( 2 schollie loss down to 1 and such ). LSU doesn't mess around.

Don't care what his shitbag family does, he's responsible for his own actions. Grow up or get out.

Points #2 & #3 are interesting. This is the second time I've heard there is a chance he could return to LSU next year.

I'm just saying there's all sorts of shit i could be doing! I could watch a movie, play a video game, rub one out, read a book, learn a foreign language, etc.. But i'm still watching the assholes because i love them, and I hate myself

BATON ROUGE, La. -- Tyrann Mathieu's chances of returning to LSU's football team took a serious hit Thursday when the 2011 Heisman Trophy finalist and three other former Tigers players were arrested on drug-related charges.

Mathieu and former LSU quarterback Jordan Jefferson were charged with simple possession of marijuana, the Baton Rouge police department said in a release.

Former Tigers linebacker Karnell Hatcher also was charged with simple possession while former defensive back Derrick Bryant faces the most serious charge of possession with intent to distribute and possession of drug paraphernalia, according to police spokesman Don Kelly.

Known as the "Honey Badger," Mathieu was kicked off the team in August for failing multiple drug tests. He returned to the school as a regular student, hoping to earn a second chance at returning to the team.

But Thursday's arrest greatly narrows the chances of such a return for Mathieu, who would have been a junior this year and was suspended last season for failing a drug test for synthetic marijuana.

According to the police report, officers found the marijuana in Mathieu's apartment Thursday afternoon. Mathieu answered the door, and officers "immediately smelled a strong odor of marijuana," the police report stated.

After Mathieu, 20, gave the police his consent to search the apartment, officers discovered a marijuana grinder, a digital scale and 10 bags of high-grade marijuana, including seven in Bryant's backpack, according to the report.

Police say they were called to the apartment complex after receiving a complaint about a man, who later was identified as the 22-year-old Jefferson, forcing his way through the security gate before going to Mathieu's apartment.

It was the second arrest for Jefferson, the starting quarterback on last season's team that lost to Alabama in the BCS National Championship game.

A three-year starter, Jefferson missed the first three games last season after being arrested for his involvement in a bar fight during August camp. He was reinstated to the team after charges against him were reduced to a misdemeanor.

Lance Unglesby, Jefferson's lawyer in the misdemeanor criminal case, said a discovery hearing in that matter is scheduled next week. He said his client has always maintained his innocence in the bar fight.

"My opinion that Jordan is a fine young man remains the same," Unglesby said.

Unglesby said he had not yet been provided with any details of Jefferson's latest arrest, but stressed, "All individuals are presumed innocent and I look forward to the opportunity to examine the facts of this case to find out what really happened."

It was not immediately known whether Mathieu, Hatcher or Bryant had lawyers.

Hatcher was a linebacker who started last season until losing his starting job to current starter Kevin Minter. Bryant played sparingly but had a significant role in LSU's 2011 win over Auburn, playing after the suspension of Mathieu created a need for LSU in its nickel package.

He was almost certainly going to be let back on the team next year, all he had to do was stay out of trouble.

C'mon, kid - gotta be smarter than that.

He's probably not an NFL cornerback (could maybe perform in a nickle role), but he'd absolutely get drafted late as a return man.

3 years in the league gets a pension, right? Plus the league minimum is a few hundred thousand. Even if he just returns kicks for 3 or 4 seasons, he's just cost himself millions in salary and his NFL pension.