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Re: Jeter - the next hit king?

Re: Jeter - the next hit king?

The only way that record is going to be touched is if someone hits higher than .350 for their career and plays forever, like Ty Cobb did. Or if someone hits higher than .300 for their career and plays forever, then tacks on about four more seasons when they had no business in a batter's box, like Pete Rose did.

Re: Jeter - the next hit king?

If Ichiro would've started in America, he might've had a shot -- but even his game is based so much on speed that I don't see him being able to continue to average 200 hits into his late 30s/early 40s.

Re: Jeter - the next hit king?

I just dont see Jeter doing it. Jeter needs 10 years of 200+ hits and that would put him at 43. We all saw what happens to a supremely talent SS when they reach their upper 30's in Larkin. Does he have a chance? Sure but besides staying healthy and productive for the next 10 years you also have to take into consideration that Jeter does not need baseball. He is financially set right now and could retire and live a lavish lifestyle right now. The sole reason he would be playing into his 40's would be to break the record. I just dont see that happening.

Re: Jeter - the next hit king?

It may not be this generation of players(then again it could be) but I think as medicine continues to advance, specifically sports medicine the "normal" career length is going to get longer and longer.

I could see the day when a lot of these "unbreakable" career accumulation records do indeed get broken because 20-30 year careers aren't that uncommon. Franco proves the human body can do it, science can probably get it to the point where its not such a rare occurance.

Thats why anytime I'n in the "what records will never be broken" discussion I never go for the obvious ones like Ripken, Cy Young, Clemens K's or Pete's hit record. I still say Vandermeer's (sp?) back to back no hitters because it doesn't matter how long someone plays they have to throw 3 straight no hitters to break it...good luck.

Re: Jeter - the next hit king?

Originally Posted by Marc D

It may not be this generation of players(then again it could be) but I think as medicine continues to advance, specifically sports medicine the "normal" career length is going to get longer and longer.

I could see the day when a lot of these "unbreakable" career accumulation records do indeed get broken because 20-30 year careers aren't that uncommon. Franco proves the human body can do it, science can probably get it to the point where its not such a rare occurance.

Thats why anytime I'n in the "what records will never be broken" discussion I never go for the obvious ones like Ripken, Cy Young, Clemens K's or Pete's hit record. I still say Vandermeer's (sp?) back to back no hitters because it doesn't matter how long someone plays they have to throw 3 straight no hitters to break it...good luck.

I thought Nolan Ryan had the strikeout record. Roger Clemens is only 1061 K's behind Ryan.

Re: Jeter - the next hit king?

Originally Posted by Marc D

It may not be this generation of players(then again it could be) but I think as medicine continues to advance, specifically sports medicine the "normal" career length is going to get longer and longer.

I could see the day when a lot of these "unbreakable" career accumulation records do indeed get broken because 20-30 year careers aren't that uncommon. Franco proves the human body can do it, science can probably get it to the point where its not such a rare occurance.

Thats why anytime I'n in the "what records will never be broken" discussion I never go for the obvious ones like Ripken, Cy Young, Clemens K's or Pete's hit record. I still say Vandermeer's (sp?) back to back no hitters because it doesn't matter how long someone plays they have to throw 3 straight no hitters to break it...good luck.

I will disagree with some of what you said. Modern medicine/fitness has definatly prolonged the careers of many players however the human body is still and will always be a body. It will continue to age even if you eat right, excercise, stay in shape, etc. The things that tend to put off the effects of aging and the effects of the daily grind are steriods and those are illegal. Baseball is a game that relies so much on leg strength and wrist speed. You can keep your leg strength as you age but it becomes more difficult. However as your wrist speed starts to decline as you age there isn't anything you can do to reverse those effects.

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