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How about a Leave supporter gives a considered answer to this, with evidence to support their views:

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Originally Posted by smileysmith

I despair of this thread. We seem to endlessly discuss the ills of Britain. Yet, nobody on the Leave side can indicate how these relate to the Brexit vote in terms of why the ills are the EU's fault. Is this an admittance that our problems are due to our own government's action?

In which case, what the **** is the purpose of the leave vote? What exactly were you voting for?

How will controlling immigration (beyond preventing EU immigrants arriving to take benefits) from the EU help any of this?

Do we think there is a correlation between those people who back Parish and those that oppose him and those that are remainers and those that are Brexiteers (in the same way that those people who support capital punishment tend to be on the Brexit side of the fence)?

Do we think there is a correlation between those people who back Parish and those that oppose him and those that are remainers and those that are Brexiteers (in the same way that those people who support capital punishment tend to be on the Brexit side of the fence)?

Do we think there is a correlation between those people who back Parish and those that oppose him and those that are remainers and those that are Brexiteers (in the same way that those people who support capital punishment tend to be on the Brexit side of the fence)?

It's an innocent question. Honestly.

I back Parish to the extent I'll still buy a season ticket, I'm disappointed that nothing significant has happened to improving the ground or moving, we need to get the capacity up for when the sky bubble bursts. I'm disappointed we didn't get another striker when even a lower league striker would've helped.

Here goes, this is the answer, it may not be the one you want but here it is.

When start quoting yourself its time to give the thread a rest.

" If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you. 6 But when you ask, you must believe and not doubt, because the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind. 7 That person should not expect to receive anything from the Lord. 8 Such a person is double-minded and unstable in all they do."

Reading some of the UK Government Brexit papers, it seems they take the very Aristotelian view of "While everything changes, everything remains the same". Or perhaps they take the more appropriate French version of Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

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Reading some of the UK Government Brexit papers, it seems they take the very Aristotelian view of "While everything changes, everything remains the same". Or perhaps they take the more appropriate French version of Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

Racehorse and others keep blaming migrants and FOM for low wages despite it being totally and utterly untrue. And takes away from the real issues of union membership, anti union laws and austerity politics.

But a question. Do they also think Irish people should have FOM taken away from the UK? If not, what's the difference?

None so blind as you and your bigoted lot, who would rather lick the boots of the rich than have solidarity with other workers.

By the logic of migrants pushing down wages, you would have not only been against women entering the workforce, but would have to think that countries with bigger populations have lower wages. Of course that's not true at all and the nonsense of it was debunked years ago in the fallacy of labour.

None so blind as you and your bigoted lot, who would rather lick the boots of the rich than have solidarity with other workers.

By the logic of migrants pushing down wages, you would have not only been against women entering the workforce, but would have to think that countries with bigger populations have lower wages. Of course that's not true at all and the nonsense of it was debunked years ago in the fallacy of labour.

Do we think there is a correlation between those people who back Parish and those that oppose him and those that are remainers and those that are Brexiteers (in the same way that those people who support capital punishment tend to be on the Brexit side of the fence)?

It's an innocent question. Honestly.

That needs to go into a correlation graph, but how do you collate the statistics.

I don't think the two are mutually exclusive.

FWIW I'm a remainer in both camps, but I can understand why people would vote the other way as well.

SP deserves an awful lot more time, and the decision to have a vote on Brexit needed an awful lot more time as well.

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