That's what Helen Magnus (Amanda Tapping) told her No. 2 man, Will Zimmerman (Robin Dunne), throughout Season 4 of “Sanctuary,” (spoilers ahead!) refusing to tell him the plan she had set in motion while trapped in the past. As we saw in the two-part season finale, “Sanctuary for None,” her secrets nearly destroyed the sanctuary and their relationship.

Wait, it did destroy the sanctuary, but she meant to do that. And that has opened up uncountable storytelling opportunities for a fifth season. That is, if Syfy picks it up for another season. There’s still no word on that, but Tapping wants another season.

“A, I'm not ready to let it go, but also I think the concept right now could be so interesting,” she told me recently. “I just think there are so many opportunities for us to revamp without losing our unique flavor, but I think it could be a really fresh, invigorating start. It already is with the new sanctuary. Just to explore that, it’s beautiful.”

Here’s the last segment of my interview with Tapping from before Part 1 of the season finale aired, which includes all the spoilery stuff I didn’t want to publish before. So if you haven’t seen the finale, SPOILER ALERT!

Leading up to the season finale, Will and Helen didn’t seem to get along so well. They have fought a lot. I've said more than a couple of times, “I hate it when Mommy and Daddy fight.” What’s up with them?In the playing of it I don’t feel like [they fought that much.] I feel like there has been a lot of tension between the two of them, but I don’t feel like we’re always fighting.

I think what has happened is Helen—well you’ve now seen the final two episodes, so you understand that Helen has had this mission and is now in a position where she can actually finalize it. She is so driven by this singular mission that I think she can’t see the forest for the trees and therefore tends to do things in such a bold and almost arrogant fashion. Will bristles at that because the relationship has changed because he knows she is up to something, but she is not honest enough or doesn’t feel like she can be honest enough to tell him what it is.

So it creates this massive underlying tension between the two of them. She knows she is not being honest with him. He knows she is not being honest. But she doesn’t see it as a problem because all will be right in the end. Whereas for our lovely mere mortal Will it’s like, “That’s not how human beings treat each other.” But I think if it wasn’t for their incredible respect for each other and the fact that they love each other and that they are so connected and so dependent on each other it wouldn’t be as tense because nobody would give a shit. Do you know what I mean? It would be like, “Oh Helen is acting this way.” Instead it’s like, “God damn it!”

We have so many layers to this relationship and you throw a tiny little wedge in it and the whole thing starts to implode because it is so intense.

And he has known all along that she has had something going on, but he didn’t figure it out to Part 2 of the finale.Of course he does and she keeps saying, “Just give me time. One more time I need to not tell you the whole truth. Oh, wait; remember I said last time that that was the last time? This will be the last time. Oh, wait, wait, remember the last time and the last time that I said this was going to be last? Now it’s going to be the last.”

It’s a lot for somebody to have to take where you finally say, “I call bullshit. You still aren’t being honest with me lady. Come on.”

Again, I think there is such a love for each other and such a mutual respect that I don’t always see the tension in the playing of it. I know it’s there, but I didn’t look back at the season as a whole and go, “Wow, Will and Helen really didn’t get along.” I find those moments where they really did or I know the motivation behind why she did the things she did. But then I guess for an audience member for sure you’d be like, “Mom and Dad are still fighting.” I know.

“Whose house are we going to live in?” Which will be an even more apt question by the end of Season 4.

That’s so true. She hatched this whole plan when she was stuck in the past, right?Yeah, which I loved. I loved that scene with Will and Abby where he starts to figure it out. You get forensic psychologist Will going, “Wait a second, check out this. Wow, Coober Pedy. OK, and then this and then this and Buckminster Fuller. Wait a second.” I love that scene where he started to put the pieces together.

Gil Bellows did a great job as Caleb, but wow, he kicks the crap out of Helen at first. Yeah, it has been a very physical season I have to say, but what I loved about Gil was that you actually thought that Helen that believed him for the longest time. You actually believed that Helen was like, “Wow, is she falling for this?” She needs to take everyone along for that ride and then in the end go “I knew it was all crap.” I loved that she is that smart.

A lot of times in both parts you had me thinking Bigfoot wasn’t cured, and then he was a plant, but then maybe not. Same with questioning whether Will was indeed working with Helen or not.Right, I know, which I love. I loved that we didn’t spoon feed it. I loved that for the audience it felt in real time and you were asking questions in real time and it wasn’t like you were going, “I know what is going to happen now.” It’s one of the things I'm very proud of with the show is we try not to spoon feed our incredibly intelligent audience information that they will figure out.

So spoiler alert: That is a brand spanking new Sanctuary we see at the end of the season?Yes, it is.

Yes.It’s interesting because I only saw a couple of the final renderings of it. I loved it, but I wasn’t in on the big decisions on how it was going to be built. I think that really had to happen between [visual effects guru] Lee [Wilson] and [director] Damian [Kindler].

But what I love about it is that she took sort of the best ideas of Hollow Earth and Coober Pedy and these underground sort of cathedrals and then built this incredible, like you said, utopia with beautiful natural light and lots of water. She has sort of created the sanctuary she has always wanted. Running a sanctuary out of a gothic cathedral in the middle of the fifth ward is not ideal [what with] power outages and surge protection alone, she has a lot of things to deal with, right? So here she is actually from the ground up able to create a safe and aesthetically beautiful, but environmentally conscious [sanctuary]. All of the things that she has wanted she is able to do it from scratch.

Is that in Hollow Earth or elsewhere?That’s her own sanctuary.

Was Kate secretly building that and not working on Hollow Earth?No. Nobody knew about this sanctuary except for Helen and the people that she had involved building it, but no one of her team. She wouldn’t get her frontline team involved with that.

So she had to get other people?Mm-hmm. [Laughs.] She did it all by herself with a hammer and chisel.

Right? I was going to say that she is multitasking almost as much as you do, Amanda.[Laughs.]

So, sad question: Is Biggie really gone?I don’t think so.

It is sci-fi, where death is not permanent.But I don’t think so. I mean the beauty of it is that he’s collapsed outside the front gates.

I thought they killed him and dumped him.He collapsed in the front door; they dumped him outside the front gates and I was like, “Whew, he could survive the explosion.” And then with Henry and Tesla have taken off. Could he have gone and gotten Biggie? Yes, he could have, so I'm not saying yes or no, but I, personally, Amanda Tapping, do not think that Biggie is dead.

Speaking of Tesla, Magnus gets another kiss.And she gets another kiss. We improvised that one. Actually I think in the cut it didn’t quite work out the way that I had hoped. I needed the audience to believe that she might not make it, that this could be the end of the series.

Right.It needed to be that dramatic. Jonathan and I talked about it, like we’ve keyed up all these little moments like Vienna in the spring and these little teases that we’ve given the audience. It’s a good-bye. It’s “I love you, get the F out of here because this whole thing is going to blow and one of us has to survive.”

Well I felt that that was sort of what she was doing.Yeah, absolutely, good.

So if you get a Season 5 abnormals will still be on the surface and in harm’s way, right? The sanctuary mission won’t really change in that sense.Yeah, this is an ongoing issue. I think that Helen will learn quickly how to put a lid on it I would hope, but yeah, absolutely. There is always going to be the marginalized people in society who need protecting and our case it’s the abnormals.

And so she’ll be super covert now.You know we’ve talked a lot about the possibility. I really do hope that we get a Season 5 because A, I'm not ready to let it go, but also just because I think the concept right now could be so interesting. I think it would be really easy to bring back a lot of the characters from last season, but utilize them in a completely different way. I think Addison would be a great addition, more of Jonathan. Kate is back. I just think there are so many opportunities for us to revamp without losing our unique flavor, but I think it could be a really fresh, invigorating start. It already is with the new sanctuary. Just to explore that, it’s beautiful.

Have you started thinking about where you could go from here already?Yeah, we’ve been throwing things around, but again it’s one of those where we’ve all sort of gone, “OK I guess we have to wait and see what happens,” whether we get picked up or not. We’ve all sort of taken a bit of a break too, which is a good thing.

If you thought Helen Magnus made a shocking play in the first part of the "Sanctuary" Season 4 finale, wait until you see what show does in "Sanctuary for None: Part 2," airing at 9 p.m. Dec. 30 on Syfy.

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