AverageAmericanGuy:Grumpy Cat: My husband's daughter has been missing since 1999. This story just brings up all your worst fears. But it makes you wonder if she's still alive. We haven't a clue.

/not so cool story

I'm going to break character for a minute here.I don't know you from Adam.

If you are serious, please don't turn to Fark for help. Fark is great for feel-good stories, but there isn't the same urgency here that there is on other sites. If you want any help at all, I'd recommend Reddit.

The overlap of users between Fark and Reddit is significant. I ask any Reddit users who are active here to spread this story to Reddit as well. This means there may need to be additional details provided (such as you provided later in this thread). A picture and age would also be very important.

The status of your husband's child may never be fully known, but engaging Farkers to find her is not going to help. Reddit, and (oh god) 4chan are where actual action will occur.

May God bless you, your husband, his daughter, and her mother.

My husband and I are both on reddit, though I barely use it. He recently joined and is getting more into it. I'll tell him to handle this. Thanks.

Deucednuisance:Random Anonymous Blackmail: May I be wrong, yes. May i be right, yes. The fact is you don't know, but much like you I have an opinion, and in my opinion something does not add up.

And in my opinion, there is something wrong with the way your head is wired.

There's treatment available.

Seek it.

But before they dope you up, perhaps you could enlighten us: what, exactly doesn't "add up" and what do you "think" it indicates as an alternative, more accurate description of what occurred?

Actually it's <i>your</i> heads that have been wired, programmed by Big Government and Corporations to trust The Man and Never Question Authority and always Believe What You Are Told. There's more Through The Looking Glass that you Farkers just don't understand.

Grumpy Cat:AverageAmericanGuy: Grumpy Cat: My husband's daughter has been missing since 1999. This story just brings up all your worst fears. But it makes you wonder if she's still alive. We haven't a clue.

/not so cool story

I'm going to break character for a minute here.I don't know you from Adam.

If you are serious, please don't turn to Fark for help. Fark is great for feel-good stories, but there isn't the same urgency here that there is on other sites. If you want any help at all, I'd recommend Reddit.

The overlap of users between Fark and Reddit is significant. I ask any Reddit users who are active here to spread this story to Reddit as well. This means there may need to be additional details provided (such as you provided later in this thread). A picture and age would also be very important.

The status of your husband's child may never be fully known, but engaging Farkers to find her is not going to help. Reddit, and (oh god) 4chan are where actual action will occur.

May God bless you, your husband, his daughter, and her mother.

My husband and I are both on reddit, though I barely use it. He recently joined and is getting more into it. I'll tell him to handle this. Thanks.

Ultimately, that really is the responsibility of you and your husband after all. I hope for the best for you. Good luck.

Arguing about the definition of survivor? LOL...this is why I can't leave you, Fark. In nearly any thread with more than 100 posts I can count on a few jackasses who will argue some inane point down to the lowest common denominator of stupid.

It never ceases to amaze me that no matter how horrific a crime is, there are always a few people on Fark desperately looking for a way to assign blame to the victim, or at least to somehow excuse the behavior of the criminal.

Yeah, me too! I sure hate it when anyone has an opinion contrary to what everyone believed immediately and ran with.

Maud Dib:99.998er: Then of course there is the Stockholm Syndrome, but I am sure that in just 10 years it would not have time to settle in with them. But you are right, something doesn't ring up. I am guessing they enjoyed being beaten and raped.

Da fuq?

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OK white knight. Now, try reading that post with a tone of mockery very slow. Clever how that works. It is almost like it takes on a whole new meaning.

ChipNASA:On the Side: FatherChaos: My favorite part of this whole story is when they interviewed the rescuer and he said "I knew something was wrong when a pretty little white girl ran into a black man's arms." (at about 2:35)

Dude, where have you been? My favorite right now is this one. Mind you, not because I'm a pompous racist but because I think this guy is awesome and he needed a song.

Cytokine Storm:Maud Dib: 99.998er: Then of course there is the Stockholm Syndrome, but I am sure that in just 10 years it would not have time to settle in with them. But you are right, something doesn't ring up. I am guessing they enjoyed being beaten and raped.

At least they are alive. There's a probably an "easier" justification to just kill them.

Incorrect. If you kill them, you lose the sex slaves. (Even if necrophilia is a viable option for you, that will only last so long.) It's much easier to keep them restrained, feed them a thin nutrient poor gruel dosed with a low grade depressant to keep them tired & docile.

nekom:cig-mkr: These three guys are another good reason to bring back public hangings.

I don't know, there's some poetic justice in the knowledge that they will now be housed in a cage. Forever. Seriously, this is EASILY aggravated kidnapping and aggravated rape and lord knows what other charges they can stack, and absolutely NO mitigation whatsoever. This is 3 consecutive life sentence territory. Let them live a long and MISERABLE existence, while their victims can now at least have something of a life. Oh and unlike the victims, there is NO hope of reprieve, NO chance of escape. They will be condemned. Abandon hope.

Various articles have mentioned at least 5 births, so there are 4 babies buried in the yard or somewhere. That's 4 charges of Murder One (unless, of course, you want to consider them to be late term abortions, in which case it;s cool). Also, at least one victim had several miscarriages from being beaten when she got pregnant. But that's cool, since they were fetuses and those would just be abortions.)

catmandu:And one more interesting coincidence: The center for Missing and Exploited Children had their annual dinner last night where they gave their Hope Award to Jaycee Dugard. She is probably the one person who understands best what these women went through. She took the millions of compensation money paid by California and created a foundation to help found kidnap victims recover and also help the victims and their families reconnect and move forward. I hope that these three women and their families take advantage of the wisdom she and her family and the experts can offer them.

That is one sorority nobody wants to belong to, but at least other recovering victims can relate to someone who has been through something similar.

When I heard a story about that on NPR this morning I was thinking that hopefully the FBI, etc can put these women together - plus the various people who suffered this in Austria, also. As you say, it's probably the best kind of talk therapy they can possibly get right now, someone who knows exactly what it is and is farther along on the way out.

I can definitely understand asking why they didn't escape earlier, because the psychology of it all is horribly fascinating (and stories like these happen often enough, sadly, that there's definitely some pattern to it). Hopefully some information does come out.

Makes me wonder what changed this week that made the escape possible, same reason.

doubled99:It never ceases to amaze me that no matter how horrific a crime is, there are always a few people on Fark desperately looking for a way to assign blame to the victim, or at least to somehow excuse the behavior of the criminal.

Yeah, me too! I sure hate it when anyone has an opinion contrary to what everyone believed immediately and ran with.

OK, I'll bite. What alternative explanations can YOU come up with for this story? I don't want to hear "something just doesn't add up," I want to hear what it is that doesn't add up and what explanations come to YOUR mind to explain whatever that is.

Maud Dib:Yup..possibly a 4th victim who has since disappeared. Girls wrote "RIP" on the wall of the basement.

Wow. I hadn't read that detail...

I did hear in passing on the news this morning though that there was another teenage missing girl who went missing in a similar area to these three, and people were disappointed that she wasn't found and is still missing. Which makes you wonder if she could have been involved but killed, yeah. :(

Same here. One part of me wants know what happened to them, but then whenever I start to think about it my mind snaps back like a rubber band because even in my imagination the situation is awful to even consider.

Maud Dib:Cytokine Storm: Maud Dib: 99.998er: Then of course there is the Stockholm Syndrome, but I am sure that in just 10 years it would not have time to settle in with them. But you are right, something doesn't ring up. I am guessing they enjoyed being beaten and raped.

Da fuq?

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They were being sarcastic.

I insist, nay, DEMAND that Fark employs a sarcasm font.

Hell of an idea. Although, it would change the entire look of the website because 98% of the comments are sarcastic.

Just Another OC Homeless Guy:Various articles have mentioned at least 5 births, so there are 4 babies buried in the yard or somewhere. That's 4 charges of Murder One (unless, of course, you want to consider them to be late term abortions, in which case it;s cool). Also, at least one victim had several miscarriages from being beaten when she got pregnant. But that's cool, since they were fetuses and those would just be abortions.)

I've seen that reported, but not confirmed. Depends on what all comes out, I suppose, and what Ohio law is with regards to assault leading to the death of a fetus. From Wiki's page on capital punishment in Ohio:

Aggravated murder with at least one of the following special circumstances:

The defendant knowingly created a grave risk of death for one or more persons in addition to the victim of the offense.The murder was committed for pecuniary gain or pursuant to an agreement that the defendant would receive something of value.The capital offense was committed by a person who is incarcerated, has escaped, is on probation, is in jail, or is under a sentence of imprisonment.The offender in the commission of the offense, purposefully caused the death of another who was under thirteen years of age at the time of the commission of the offense and the defendant committed the offense with prior calculation and design.The offense was the assassination of the president of the United States or person in line of succession to the presidency, or of the governor or lieutenant governor of this state, or of the president-elect or vice president-elect of the United States, or of the governor-elect of this state, or of a candidate for any of the foregoing offices.The murder was committed against a witness in a criminal proceeding to prevent the witness from appearing, or for revenge.The offense was committed while the offender was committing, attempting to commit, or fleeing immediately after committing or attempting to commit terrorism.

So I guess it's possible, if they can find a way to make an aggravated murder charge.

... lifeless eyes, black eyes, like adoll's eyes. When she comes after ya, she doesn't seem to be livin' until she bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white, and then - aww, then you hear that terrible high-pitch screamin', and everything turns red...

DROxINxTHExWIND:Maud Dib: Cytokine Storm: Maud Dib: 99.998er: Then of course there is the Stockholm Syndrome, but I am sure that in just 10 years it would not have time to settle in with them. But you are right, something doesn't ring up. I am guessing they enjoyed being beaten and raped.

Da fuq?

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They were being sarcastic.

I insist, nay, DEMAND that Fark employs a sarcasm font.

Hell of an idea. Although, it would change the entire look of the website because 98% of the comments are sarcastic.

I've been having a problem with this certain viral fb pic. We are better people than this. We bury our dead honorably... or better stated, we the living act honorably when dealing with the dead, no matter who they are.

Perducci:"Tomba said investigators were working to determine if the girl had ever left the house, but said she likely would have gone unnoticed by police who were not looking for a child."

They apparently weren't looking for the teens/adults much either.

"On Monday evening, Berry began screaming from behind the locked front door of the home where she and the other women were being held. Neighbors heard her and held kick open the door and then called police, ending what one FBI agent called the women's "nightmare. " "

I'm really curious about the conditions these women were held in. Was it a locked, sound-proof bunker where they were never allowed to leave? Was it a fairly normal house, but the women feared for their lives about trying to escape? Was at least one of the brothers always present, 24 hours a day, every day?... It's fascinating that it took this long for one of captives to shout for help, so there must have been some sort of barrier, whether physical or mental.

You would think humans would be resilient, they would be strong, that they could withstand a little torture, rape, and humiliation. You would be wrong. First thing is that with rape it takes away a persons power and their is the insidious thought that they deserved, that no one would ever want them again, that they are garbage. On top of this getting beaten, humiliated, and threatened with death for the smallest violation of the rules and rewarded or just not beaten for compliance and the human mind can be conditioned to accept imprisonment.

internut scholar:One thing I ask everyone to do is when a Amber Alert goes out, share it as soon as you can, via Facebook, Tweet, text, whatever. The sooner the public gets this information and the more vigilant they are the chances of recovering the person is much greater.

Just this past weekend, there was a kid in my area that was kidnapped, the Amber Alert went out immediately and may be the reason they found him alive. The monster harmed him but spared his life.

Another thing parents should be aware of is Code Adam. If you are in a department store and your child is missing, don't mess around. Tell an employee, they are supposed to be trained to shut the store down, and don't allow anyone in or out.Your best bet is to head to the nearest exit and look around outside.

Non parents can help out too. Don't just sit there and watch the show, you may actually save a child by being proactive.

I once helped reunite a child to his family at the beach. I saw a mother crying hysterically that her boy was missing, and the father was trying to calm her, he seemed to be in shock. I had to do something so I ran down the boardwalk. I figured the kid is in the ocean, on the beach, or someone is abducting him. I found him about an 1/8 of a mile down in the sand. I'm sure he probably would have made it back but to them eventually but no one knew that at that time. It was a good feeling to help them, they were very grateful and I would hope someone would do that for my kid, if so needed.

So you tried to get the kid to walk with you back to his family, he was looking at bird poop, or a bug or something and didn't want to, so you scooped the little tyke up in your arms, and he started screaming, and 20 people descended on you screaming 'child molester' and the cops came and put you in the holding tank with 45 other felons and some cop mentioned you were a child molester and you got ass-raped several dozen times......

I'm so glad these folks were rescued. But, well, I'm finding it difficult to believe that, unless they were in chains, three adult females could not figure out a way to get away from that place over time. Something doesn't ring up.

I too have read about chains and ropes, but I also read in an article that one of the women was let out from time to time. I understand there might have been some mental manipulation or fear of revenge, but I have to agree, there are a few things that don't wrap up all nice and tidy.

It never ceases to amaze me that no matter how horrific a crime is, there are always a few people on Fark desperately looking for a way to assign blame to the victim, or at least to somehow excuse the behavior of the criminal.

It's hard to tell in a way, because it's his usual stream of unconsciousness, but I think he's trying to say that since these guys are Hispanic, they kidnapped the girls on purpose to make Welfare Babies to steal money from Real `Merkins and are therefore, obviously, Obama supporters.

The dude can't have handlers, `cause they would have darted him by now:

99.998er:Maud Dib: 99.998er: Then of course there is the Stockholm Syndrome, but I am sure that in just 10 years it would not have time to settle in with them. But you are right, something doesn't ring up. I am guessing they enjoyed being beaten and raped.

Da fuq?

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OK white knight. Now, try reading that post with a tone of mockery very slow. Clever how that works. It is almost like it takes on a whole new meaning.

Ahh leave the truther, birther, JFK conspiracy nut alone. Yeah his reaction to this is just like their reaction to 9/11, Obama's birth certificate, and JFK's assassination. Or maybe he just really gets off on rape and dungeon fantasies and can't see how this could possibly be bad. I mean all the rape bdsm porn he reads and watches has the women really liking it and loving her master in the end. Those books and movies would not lie to him would they?

I've been having a problem with this certain viral fb pic. [i.imgur.com image 402x426]We are better people than this. We bury our dead honorably... or better stated, we the living act honorably when dealing with the dead, no matter who they are.

..Undoubtedly there is more to this story, there always is. It is unlikely that future facts would change the culpability of these men. Nevertheless, curiosity is a good thing and should not be met with the fear and loathing expressed in your post.

And look at the shiat storm that was brewed up by bucking a little public opinion. I am not willing to go lynch mob and string them up by their balls. I never said anything one way or another but people assumed that by saying not everything was tidy with the situation, I was automatically siding with the alleged as some sort of pro rapist mental case.

Look at some of the other times in history where presumption of non favorable opinion in a public arena led to persecution. We really as a race have not come very far.

It is unlikely that future facts will change the outcome, I am more curious on how it got to this point and only the people involved know that.

I've been having a problem with this certain viral fb pic. [i.imgur.com image 402x426]We are better people than this. We bury our dead honorably... or better stated, we the living act honorably when dealing with the dead, no matter who they are.

Burying people is stupid.

Fair enough. We shall act with grace when tending to our dead, no matter who they are.

I've been having a problem with this certain viral fb pic. [i.imgur.com image 402x426]We are better people than this. We bury our dead honorably... or better stated, we the living act honorably when dealing with the dead, no matter who they are.

Sounds like you got some space. Whats your address so they know where to dump him.

I've been having a problem with this certain viral fb pic. [i.imgur.com image 402x426]We are better people than this. We bury our dead honorably... or better stated, we the living act honorably when dealing with the dead, no matter who they are.

Burying people is stupid.

Fair enough. We shall act with grace when tending to our dead, no matter who they are.

And here I was, just now, thinking that I used to think you were just a hobbyist crank, havin' a little fun, here most days, but lately I've been thinking, yanno, maybe he really is homeless in OC, wandering Fark, like he does the streets going on about what fevered notion pops into his head and frightening the children and wimmenfolk.

What a coinkydink, huh?

(Hint: I summarized as best I could some of Rush's nonsense, and opined that in a sane world he'd have been tranquilized and drug offstage. Sorry you couldn't follow. Rush'll do that to ya.)

Just Another OC Homeless Guy:So you tried to get the kid to walk with you back to his family, he was looking at bird poop, or a bug or something and didn't want to, so you scooped the little tyke up in your arms, and he started screaming, and 20 people descended on you screaming 'child molester' and the cops came and put you in the holding tank with 45 other felons and some cop mentioned you were a child molester and you got ass-raped several dozen times......

Yeah, I guess in hindsight I shouldn't have told him I will give him candy if he stops crying and then putting my hand over his mouth was dumb too. Hey shiat happens.