So today, I finally got around to registering my gun with the MSP at the AAPD. When the detective and I were going through the safety inspection and registration, another officer walked into the room to grab some windex. I had my Kershaw clipped to my back pocket at the time. He looks at me and says "you're going to carry a gun AND a knife?" I reply back with "Yes, that's what I was planning on doing." He says "well, with a gun...why do you need a knife?" So I replied with (verbatim) "Packages, stuck seat belts, people who are attacking me when I don't have the gun..." The detective registering my pistol just kind of snickered while the other officer huffed and walked off...

why the attitude because i have a kershaw and a gun?? :Slip:

February 12th, 2009, 05:30 PM

Reborn

Probably just jealous.......

February 12th, 2009, 05:37 PM

C9H13NO3

I would have taken it a step further...

"I might get in trouble for trying to shoot a box open..."

February 12th, 2009, 05:54 PM

community

next time, I would suggest that when you go into a police department, to unclip your knife from your belt and put it in your pocket. Saves some explaining.

February 12th, 2009, 09:41 PM

pcon

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Originally Posted by community

next time, I would suggest that when you go into a police department, to unclip your knife from your belt and put it in your pocket. Saves some explaining.

you're right...that was probably stupid on my part. even if it was legal, it would have just been easier to avoid the hassle

February 12th, 2009, 09:56 PM

KenpoTex

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Originally Posted by pcon

why the attitude because i have a kershaw and a gun?? :Slip:

Because he's a dumb-(something) who lacks the proper mindset.

February 12th, 2009, 10:16 PM

A1C Lickey

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Originally Posted by community

next time, I would suggest that when you go into a police department, to unclip your knife from your belt and put it in your pocket. Saves some explaining.

Why? It's not like he was doing anything illegal. And if anything exposure to the police is a good thing.

February 12th, 2009, 10:20 PM

SIGguy229

I thought MI did away with the "safety inspection" after the last session of the legislature?

February 12th, 2009, 10:42 PM

pcon

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Originally Posted by SIGguy229

I thought MI did away with the "safety inspection" after the last session of the legislature?

I'm not sure what the detective did. There was a period which he was looking over it pretty intently. He didn't really ever test out the safety or mag release or anything along those lines...so, maybe they did?

February 12th, 2009, 11:23 PM

QKShooter

Most Police in my area also carry an accessory knife.
So that would be an odd question coming from an officer around here.

The questions you would have got here......Is that a Kershaw?....How do you like it?

February 13th, 2009, 07:11 PM

TX-JB

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Originally Posted by QKShooter

The questions you would have got here......Is that a Kershaw?....How do you like it?

No kidding! Around here they would probably tell you to get a BUG, too.

Beginning Wednesday, Michigan will no longer require a post-purchase safety inspection of handguns purchased. Currently, every time a handgun is purchased in Michigan, whether it is a commercial sale or a private sale between two individuals, the purchaser must take the pistol to their local police department and present it for "safety inspection." During these inspections, actual checks for safety really never took place. What was accomplished was that the make, model, caliber and serial number of the gun was registered to the purchaser. The Legislature has recognized the hypocrisy of this process and will now trust its citizens to send them the correct information regarding the handgun to be registered.

The process will work like this. After Wednesday, both the Michigan License to Purchase a Pistol and the Pistol Sales Record (the form used for handgun purchasers who possess a Michigan Concealed Pistol License) will become four-part forms rather than three-part forms. The Michigan License to Purchase a Pistol will change in color from green to yellow. When a handgun is purchased, the forms will be filled out as usual and the four forms will be utilized in the following manner: one part will be retained by the seller, one part will be retained by the purchaser, and two parts will be delivered to the purchaser's local police department. It will be the responsibility of the purchaser to make sure the two copies reach the police department. The purchaser may do this by hand delivering them or by sending them via first-class mail. The copy of the sales record retained by the purchaser must be kept and carried any time the purchaser is carrying or transporting the firearm for the first 30 days following the date of purchase of the firearm. If caught, failure to carry this copy of the sales record for this 30-day time period will result in a civil infraction of a $250 fine and disciplinary action from the county gun board.

This change in the law should convenience individuals who work long hours and are currently unable to purchase handguns because they have to use up a vacation day from work in order to fulfill the current requirement to have a handgun safety inspected in the first 10 days following purchase at their local police department. This is difficult because most local police departments do not accommodate the working hours of the average citizen. This new system will greatly convenience the law-abiding citizens of our state.

Now that you have the facts, here is the opinion. In the 1920s, the people of Michigan rejected the registration of handguns. What they did approve was the post-purchase safety inspection of handguns. This was turned into a de facto registration of handguns and last year legislation was introduced into the Michigan Legislature to eliminate the post-purchase safety inspection process and the registration of handguns. As it turns out, the Michigan State Police Department lobbied to keep the registration process in place. Even though registration was originally rejected by Michiganders 80 years ago, the Legislature in deference to the Michigan State Police opted to keep registration and give us the convenience of getting rid of safety inspection.

Some have complained this new process will compromise the accuracy of the registration system currently in place for handguns. These critics should be reminded that in the current system, criminals are not rushing down to the police department to register all of their stolen handguns. It is perfectly plausible to expect people whose livelihood depends on the accuracy of information, namely federally licensed firearms dealers, to give the correct information on forms and ensure that purchasers get it to the correct place. Given that only law-abiding citizens comply with the law requiring them to register their firearms, and given that criminals break the law (surprise, surprise!) and refuse to register their stolen firearms, registration of handguns in Michigan, while slightly more convenient, continues to be a waste of time and resources. Trust me, when a firearm is stolen, the legal owner of the firearm will let the police know as soon as the theft is discovered!

Joel Fulton, along with his brother Jared and both of their wives (Elizabeth and Vicky), owns the Southside Sportsman Club and Freedom Firearms. He is an NRA senior training counselor who conducts the Michigan CPL classes.

February 13th, 2009, 08:19 PM

MeatPuppet

He's a fan of Gerbers?

February 15th, 2009, 12:34 AM

TN_Mike

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Originally Posted by pcon

why the attitude because i have a kershaw and a gun?? :Slip:

You ran into a LEO who either doesn't believe in citizens carry weapons for their own defense or, a guy who just doesn't understand the possible self defense situations where a knife could come in handy.

February 15th, 2009, 09:00 AM

GreyGhost

Obviously, this cop isn't too bright. A knife is just a tool. There are a multitude of uses for a knife. It's not just for self defense. Would you ask a mechanic why he needs a screwdriver when he already has a wrench?