...Alice started to her feet, for it flashed across her mind that she had never before seen a rabbit with either a waistcoat-pocket, or a watch to take out of it, and burning with curiosity, she ran across the field after it, and fortunately was just in time to see it pop down a large rabbit-hole under the hedge.

So began Alice's adventures in Wonderland and, in a similar way, my own adventures down a very deep rabbit-hole of sorts. It's the strange event that doesn't make sense that can get you wondering; the thing that you might just let slip by as curious. But then you look a little closer and, next thing you know...

"The rabbit-hole went straight on like a tunnel for some way, and then dipped suddenly down, so suddenly that Alice had not a moment to think about stopping herself before she found herself falling down a very deep well..."

The strange event in this case involved the response posted to Laura Knight-Jadczyk's Facebook wall by Duncan Roads, Editor, Owner, Publisher of Nexus Magazine, concerning the cancellation of her appearance at the Nexus Conference due to the last minute addition of Jim Humble to the lineup of speakers. That Roads, an alleged professional editor and publisher, would launch an ad hominem attack that would make a petulant adolescent blush was strange enough. What really got my attention, though, was the postscript he felt inclined to attach to his abuse-laden missive:

PS: Next time, have a look at the speaker list of any conference you get invited to, in advance. You left your conference speaker cancellation to the last minute - was that done on purpose? How spiteful!

Try as I might, I could not manage to work out a situation in which Roads, the owner of the magazine that was sponsoring this event, was not aware of the fact that Jim Humble had been added to the lineup of speakers at the last minute, immediately prior to Laura Knight-Jadczyk's cancellation. His own website clearly shows that Humble had just been added, stating, "Breaking News: Jim Humble the inventor of MMS is coming to Holland!"

Rabbits generally do not wear waistcoats and use watches, and Editor/Owner/Publishers of magazines generally do not make complete fools of themselves by writing juvenile insults on public forums like Facebook. When you see either, you can be sure something strange is afoot. In this case, there are a few of possibilities to consider:

1) Duncan Roads is basically a petulant child who has, until now, managed to maintain an adult façade.

3) There is more to this business of Jim Humble and his appearance at the Nexus Conference than is apparent on the surface.

Having neither access to Duncan Roads nor the ability to make a diagnosis of his psychological state, I was left with only the third possibility to investigate: was there something more to this Jim Humble business?

"...Alice had not a moment to think about stopping herself before she found herself falling down a very deep well."

On January 28, 2010, Laurence Allan Jensen, Ph.D., D.D., in company with Glenda Green, D.D., consecrated James Humble, D.D. as a bishop in the Spiritis Church. Humble writes about this event himself, though curiously, he never mentions the church by name.

In my travels I happened upon a small but very unusual church. This church has come to us down through the centuries from the original apostles of Jesus Christ. There is an unbroken lineage of succession of Bishops for 2000 years to now. The name of each Bishop is recorded. The first apostles were Bishops. The Catholic Church broke off from this first Church 325 years AD, but the Original Church continued until now. You have never heard of it because it is small. It embraces all denominations of Christianity and actually all religions of the world and always has for 2000 years. I became a minister, a Deacon, a Priest, and finally a Bishop. So let me introduce myself again. I am Bishop James Humble.

What Humble is saying is that an unbroken succession of ordinations, beginning with Jesus Christ himself ordaining his own apostles, has now lead to James Humble, D.D. as the latest of the true apostles walking the earth. In essence, Humble is claiming that he has been identified as one so noble, so pure of heart, so saintly, that Jesus has blessed him and his work.

Well, that certainly sounds impressive. However, Humble's claim, "You have never heard of it because it is small," isn't quite true. I, for one, have heard of this church. In fact, it is rather notorious in certain circles. This church is many things, but it is definitely not holy.

This church goes by a number of names around the world. Humble was ordained in the Spiritis Church version. Other versions include the Order of the Friends of Jeshua (Jesus), the Byzantine Catholic Church, Inc., the Liberal Catholic Church, the Old Roman Catholic Church, the American Orthodox Catholic Church, and who knows how many others. None of these churches seems connected to the others in any way but one: they all claim apostolic succession as proof of their validity, and all share bishops in said succession.

When, the Old Catholic priests in England elected Willoughby, the next in order of voting was the Rev. James Ingall Wedgewood who had introduced a number of Theosophists into the Old Catholic Church. On August 6, 1915, Archbishop Mathew issued a Pastoral letter condemning Theosophy as a heresy and calling upon those of his clergy who were Theosophists to recant. They refused and so left the Old Catholic movement. These clergy and their lay followers did for a time continue to operate under the title. The Old Catholic Church," which was available to them because the followers of Archbishop Mathew had chosen to use of the title Old Roman Catholic. Eventually they adopted the title The Liberal Catholic Church, which they felt to be more appropriate to their views. Bishop Willoughby was in negotiation with Rome with a view to reconciliation, but nothing final had been arranged. When approached by the Theosophical clergy, he consented to consecrate Wedgewood. It appears that Willoughby believed it only honorable to pass on to the clergy who had elected him to the episcopal office in which he no longer intended to serve. Thus, on February 13, 1916 he consecrated James Ingall Wedgewood as Presiding Bishop of the Liberal Catholic Church.

James Ingall Wedgwood, first Bishop of the Liberal Catholic Church, accused pedophile, and Jim Humble's predecessor in the "church"

The apostolic succession claimed by Humble follows a line from James Ingall Wedgwood, [Note: the correct spelling of his name is Wedgwood, not Wedgewood as written on the Spritis website] who was the first Bishop of the Liberal Catholic Church following a schism within the Old Catholic Church. This hardly seems in keeping with Humble's claim that, "The Catholic Church broke off from this first Church 325 years AD, but the Original Church continued until now," which would imply that this has been a unified body keeping the faith in quiet for 2,000 years. The church's self-proclaimed history shows that this is not the case.

This same Bishop Wedgwood eventually resigned from the Liberal Catholic Church due to his "almost unbelievably strong" homosexual urges, which once lead him to visit 18 public toilets in two hours, and soon thereafter an encounter with law enforcement. As he explained to the police, he was "searching for a friend." Eventually, Wedgwood and other LCC clergy were investigated for homosexual activities involving boys. It was this scandal that eventually lead to his resignation from the church. Apparently, the inability to curb one's carnal desires and keep their damn hands off of young boys' privates doesn't invalidate the consecration of a Bishop in this church, as Humble's claimed apostolic succession comes directly down through the pedophile Wedgwood.

Bishops C. W. Leadbeater and James Ingall Wedgwood.

Examining the list of apostolic succession in some of the other incarnations of this "church", quite a few other interesting names pop up, such as C. W. Leadbeater. Leadbeater was a well-known Theosophist who resigned from the Theosophical Society over a scandal that involved young boys and masturbation. According to one witness, Mary Lutyens:

"Leadbeater 'came prancing down the wharf like a great lion,' as Mary described it, 'hatless and in a long purple cloak, holding on to the arm of a very good-looking blond boy of about fifteen. This was Theodore St John, an Australian boy of great charm and sweetness, who was Leadbeater's current favourite and who slept in his room."

Michael Bertiaux, a Bishop who also claimed this apostolic succession, was a practitioner of voodoo and associated with Aleister Crowley, the Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.), and the Chorozon Club which practiced homosexual magic.

William Wallace Webb, also a Bishop claiming this apostolic succession, was connected with the O.T.O/Crowley as well as being the founder of his own Qabalistic Alchemist Church, founded April 1, 1960, "by over 20 people. High Masons and Ethiopian Alchemest [sic] Church - 10,000 of years old, and Eastern Orthodox Catholic. (Arch Bishop Theodotus of New York and Society of Rosicrucians in America...)."

It gets weirder, folks.

Walter Vladimir Propheta, yet another one of these "apostolic succession" Bishops, ran a physical church (a rare thing for these guys) in the Bronx, called the Cathedral of the Holy Resurrection. One of the curious things about this church was that, while it did have visitors, none of them were parishioners. All of the comings and goings at this churched seemed to involve assorted spooks and people involved in anti-communism activities. Carl Stanley, an associate of Propheta, also started one of these apostolic line churches of his own around the same time Propheta started his.

Carl Stanley was first arrested in Los Angeles on November 22, 1927, for Grand Theft Auto. His arrest record would continue to grow through the years, including an arrest for violating U.S. Postal Code by sending obscene material through the mail. Stanley's history hardly seems to qualify him as the sort of person Jesus might lay hands on with a charge to go out into the world and spread the good news. Then again, no one in this 'church' really seems to fit that bill as far as we can see. Of course, we are talking about a 'church' that appears to have nothing even close to resembling ethics, morality or scruples. This same man, arrested for sending obscene material via U.S. mail, was actually made a saint by one of these churches! Yeah, I'm speechless, too. His 'church name' was Christopher Maria. Here is the official document sanctifying him:

Sanctification of Carl "Christopher Maria" Stanley

The date of Stanley's first arrest is rather ironic. Carl Stanley's name would come up repeatedly during the investigation of another crime committed on November 22 - the assassination of JFK.

David Ferrie

Carl Stanley consecrated David Ferrie into the office of 'Bishop'. Ferrie has alleged direct links to the JFK assassination, as well as other shadowy goings-on in New Orleans at the time. During the Jim Garrison investigation, seven phone calls to an anonymous Toronto, Canada phone number made by Ferrie in the months preceding the assassination were traced to Earl Anglin Lawrence James, yet another (you guessed it) 'Bishop' claiming this apostolic succession.

David Ferrie was also implicated, in Ed Haslam's book Dr. Mary's Monkey, of having a part in a secret government program involving cancer research. According to Haslam, the U.S. government was conducting secret research into curing cancer in order to head off what they feared would be an upcoming cancer epidemic following the mass inoculation of people in the U.S. for polio. As it turned out, the polio vaccine was infected with Simian virus 40, or SV40, a polyomavirus known to cause tumors.

That the government would be so secretive about having injected a known carcinogenic virus into the population of the U.S. is understandable. What I have a hard time wrapping my head around is why they would feel the need to conduct experiments for a cure in secret. There were already thousands of labs around the country and around the world conducting such experiments. However, SV40 has been implicated in more than accidental injection via the polio vaccine. According to Dr. Maurice Hilleman of Merck Pharmaceuticals, SV40 research in Africa is tied to AIDS. Watch the video of an interview with him here.

Let me be clear that I am not making any allegations concerning Jim Humble's work in Africa, but the coincidence of two of these "Bishops" working to allegedly cure cancer (and, in Humble's case, every other known disease) and both being tied to Africa leaves me scratching my head. If you haven't ever watched it, get a copy of the movie The Constant Gardener.

Jack Martin

In the Oliver Stone movie, JFK, the part played by Jack Lemmon - Jack Martin, an associate of Guy Bannister - was yet another 'Bishop' as well as a drunk with, like Stanley, a long arrest record. He consecrated Thomas Jude Baumler. Baumler was a New Orleans politician and associate of Guy Bannister. It was Baumler who told J. Gary Shaw that Lee Harvey Oswald worked for Guy Bannister. He also told Harold Weisbuerg, one of Garrison's investigators, that he had personally met Oswald. Baumler was also a Mason, allegedly belonging to the Etoile Polair Lodge of the French Grand Orient, the same lodge that Mafia don Carlos Marcello belonged to. It was Marcello that David Ferrie was working for on the day of the JFK assassination.

Baumler's part of the web strings across to the west coast of the U.S., tying all of this to another story. During the Garrison investigation, Baumler was hanging out with the newly formed Process Church of the Final Judgement in Los Angeles. According to former Process member Timothy Wyllie, in his book Love Sex Fear Death: The Inside Story of the Process Church of the Final Judgement, Baumler wanted to name the church The Church of Christ and Satan. Amongst other things (which you can imagine from the title of Wyllie's book), the Process Church was accused of ties to Charles Manson. There are claims that Process members even visited Manson in prison.

There are also claims that William Bryan, the hypnotist suspected of mind programming Sirhan Sirhan for the assassination of RFK (Bryan once bragged that this was so), was also another one of these 'Bishops'. However, I think we can stop there, I'm already starting to feel like I've taken a dose of MMS.

Honestly, I'm not quite sure what to make of all these 'Bishops'. What has become clear however is that the 'apostolic line' of these 'Bishops' that today includes Jim Humble, is more of a roll call of criminals with connections to the assassination of JFK, pedophiles and the mentally disturbed rather than individuals who might actually live up to their claim to be the keepers of the secrets of the original church of Jesus.

This would then make clear the reason why, as James Humble suggests, you have never heard of this church. They don't want you to know about it. If I were a member of a club like that, I sure as heck wouldn't go telling people about it. What is not clear is the precise meaning and role of a 'Bishop' in this shadowy underworld 'church' or what the initiatory procedure or requirement might be to become one. As a member of a 'church' with such a background, it would seem prudent for any 'Bishops' to steer well clear of even the hint of an association with pedophiles. Yet, Bishop Humble appears to be connected (in some way) with the 'oath keepers'. In his most recent newsletter, Humble stated that he may use the oath keepers to protect his church members from the government. As noted in Joe Quinn's article 'Snake Oil Humbles Nexus Conference', the leader of the oath keepers was recently arrested for raping a 7 year old child.

Curiouser and curiouser...

Is it possible that we now have an intimation as to why it is that Duncan Roads would be so shaken by Laura Knight-Jadczyk's cancellation of her appearance at the Nexus Conference? Was there some sort of agenda, putting Bishop Humble on the conference line-up? Laura is well known for exposing, in the interest of truth, what others would like to keep hidden. Is she getting under someone's skin?

This is, of course, where the ominous presence of a Bishop in Humble's church - several of whom are implicated in the assassination of JFK - takes on a more sinister aspect. Duncan Roads himself revealed that certain individuals were planning on ambushing Laura at Road's Nexus conference, and though this was said to have been merely an attempt to "ask inconvenient questions", we have been left with the distinct impression of a grave aura of danger enveloping the entire Nexus conference proceedings.

As it happens, it appears that this plot was the brainchild of Vincent Bridges and Stormbear Williams who have been engaged in defaming Laura for lo, these many years. Is there a connection between Humble, Roads and the Bridges-Williams gang other than the fact that Roads immediately appeared in their camp seeking solace for being so mistreated and giving new life (and cash) to the defamation activity?

Well, we are reminded that David Ferrie was very much involved in "youth guidance" in the form of a young people's organization called "Civil Air Patrol" and Vincent and Stormbear, along with their pal Dan Winter, have long been involved with "youth activities" including "psy-kids camps" and teaching third graders about how to "feel bliss." Here's Dan Winter quizzing small children on the shape of their "love hug" -

They are also well-known for their black-magic rituals, Ophanic channeling, and obsession with Kabbalah.

While we may never know for sure, it seems likely that Laura may never have made a wiser decision as regards her own safety, to go with her instincts stand on her principles, and back away from Roads, Humble and what has turned out to be a decidedly malevolent group of people.

Whatever the reason, Laura didn't walk into the trap. Even at the last minute, she clearly stated that, based on her research and personal experience with his products, Humble was a quack and refused to be on the same bill with him. The fact that Humble was announced with considerable fanfare as a late addition to the Nexus conference suggests that Roads, as the owner of Nexus, shares at least a close professional relationship with Humble. Roads himself has admitted his advocacy of Humble's MMS, and Nexus magazine has carried a number of articles favorable to Humble and his 'miraculous' bleach. Is it possible then that Roads also shares Humble's religious beliefs? The beliefs of a group of people involved in the assassination of a most inconvenient sitting president.

Now, Bishop Jim Humble might be just a really nice old guy who got taken in by somebody promoting this church idea as a way to save him from jail. Duncan Roads may be just a really nice younger guy who just wants to help the old guy make a living. But what does seem to emerge from this short analysis is this: if that is the case, then both of them have been taken in and set up to be patsies just like Lee Harvey Oswald was.

For now, we can only speculate.

Comment: Addendum:

Sometimes following the thread of an event leads to unexpected, interesting connections. In this case, the event was the only successful hijacking of an airplane in the U.S. By successful, we mean that the person who hijacked the plane managed to not only collect ransom money, but also managed to get off the plane, with the money, within U.S. borders without being caught or identified.

This particular thread lead us back to Jim Humble via the Wandering Bishops.

The hijacker identified himself by the alias Dan Cooper--later misreported in the press as D. B. Cooper--boarded a 727 in Portland on November 24, 1971. He slipped a note to a flight attendant that read, "I have a bomb in my briefcase. I will use it if necessary. I want you to sit next to me. You are being hijacked." He demanded $200,000 and two parachutes, both of which were delivered to him when the plane landed at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport. Once the demands were met to Cooper's satisfaction, the plane took off with orders to fly to Mexico City at the low speed of 170 knots.

Shortly after takeoff, Cooper opened one of the exit doors of the plane and parachuted to freedom. The FBI, unable to solve the case, declared that they did not believe Cooper had survived the jump.

One very likely suspect was named in the case, however--a man by the name of William Gossett. He was a decorated veteran of the wars in Korea and Vietnam, a survivalist and an experienced parachutist. He spoke often of D. B. Cooper, once telling his wife that he could "write the epitaph for D.B. Cooper," and had told all three of his children definitively that he was the hijacker. He even walked into the office of a Salt Lake City judge and confessed to the crime, who told him to shut up and never talk about it again.

Gossett was a man continually strapped for cash, due at least in part to a gambling addiction. He eventually became a private detective, specializing in money fraud, cults and missing persons. He even assisted the FBI in rescuing a woman from an alleged cult.

And then, in 1988, Gossett changed his name from William to Wolfgang and became a priest of Christ Catholic Church, a church claiming the same "apostolic lineage" that Jim Humble claims. Interestingly, given the fact that this man was a confessed hijacker with a gambling problem, his title was The Very Rev. William Wolfgang Gossett. Also interesting is that while his address in the church directory was listed as DePoe Bay, Oregon, his phone number has a 415 area code: San Francisco.

Reader Comments

I am really enjoying everything you guys do.
This is good research, or at least it seems to be.. I haven't checked it..

a rabbit hole indeed..

by the way I did try MMS and I am a very inshape 38 year old vegetarian who fasts and does yoga regularly, and that stuff almost killed me..
I wouldn't give it to my enemies..
useless except for a water chlorinator maybe in very small doses..

I am stunned after reading this article and the possible implications.

I would say shocked , but knowing what work Laura and the crew have done over the years , i am not shocked that there are many snakes out there who do not like truth being spoken , their addictions and perversities being exposed , their sick fun taken away from them , their masks taken off and so on.

Is that the MMS meme has now been implanted in the noosphere. Even if all the sites change it to 'water purification drops', even if Humble is put in jail instead of being allowed to quietly fade back into the woodwork from which roaches like him emerge, the idea that bleach can be used to purify the body will continue to knock about the collective mind, simultaneously wrecking the health of the unwary and casting yet more dirt on the whole notion of alternative medicine.

Was this the main goal? Or was it, in the grand 4D chessboard, merely a nice side benefit to removing Laura from the game? I've a hunch it's the former but for now there's no way to tell and anyhow, as it stands, a lot of people are going to die for this.

Hmm. Maybe this is what MMS feels like. Oh wait, no, that sick, churning feeling in my gut, that hollow pressure in my chest, the rising gorge ... I think that's empathy. Sorry for the crude biological description devoid of any emotional language but I figured I'd couch it in terms these psychopaths can understand (you know: physical pain and bodily discomfort.)

You are unable to rise above your subjective opinion of Duncan and look at it in an objective manner.

Sic
"Why not clear it up privately like adults for God's sake? Laura - just call Duncan and speak to him. Clear the air, start with a clean slate, and talk about RESOLUTION since I'm sure we all want the same thing - to stop Jim Humble and his dodgy MMS if that is indeed what is going on... I'll tell you now; you are wrong about Duncan and Nexus, and I'll eat my hat if you prove otherwise."

Shouldn't it be Duncan who must call Laura and apologise for making personal remarks at her health and physical appearance. But, you seem to ignore that since, you've known him for 10 years so it cannot be him but his alter ego or some invisible entity!

Sic
"Either way, I think the situation here is getting messy and totally out-of-hand, and is a slanging-match on email... of all mediums...which is going...where??

SOTT never started any slanging match however, you are hell-bent on terming it so and in turn diverting the focus of attention. Bit like the "Greek Chorus" or Co-intelpro by acting in deniability. So far, all I can see is some good research being done by SOTT team and duly published for masses to educate themselves.

Sic
"But seriously CAN WE RISE ABOVE THIS SLANGING MATCH FOR PITY'S SAKE?

It does the alternative information movement no good at all if we carry on like a bunch of kids as school. "

This is not alternative information but "The Real information" or as close to real and truthful as possible. Alternative information is what you hear from your local newspapers and international media outlets.

Let me finish off by mentioning that real psychopaths are hard to detect and even harder to get any useful truth out of. And events such as this only help in bringing them into light as they find themselves out of their comfort zone and cannot dupe us anymore.

I think this is a very interesting observation that has been made by a few people:

Roy wrote: "First, can I say that over the last ten years I've found Duncan to be a 'normal', down-to-Earth guy."

Yet, if you read the words Duncan wrote to Laura directly on her facebook page or the words he wrote on the GLP forum, he is obviously not behaving like a 'normal down to Earth guy'.

Normal, down to Earth guys don't instantly resort to childish, hurtful name calling and insults when threatened or upset. I don't - and I doubt you do, Roy. It's just not done in normal society by normal people. It's not.

So, this brings to mind what Lobaczewski wrote about the paranoid character disorder - and I only quote it because it's so darn accurate that it can't really be ignored...

Lobaczeski wrote: "Paranoid character disorders: It is characteristic of paranoid behavior for people to be capable of relatively correct reasoning and discussion as long as the conversation involves minor differences of opinion. This stops abruptly when someone's arguments begin to undermine the individual's overvalued ideas, crush their long-held stereotypes of reasoning, or forces them to accept a conclusion they had subconsciously rejected before. Such a stimulus unleashes upon the other person a torrent of pseudo-logical, largely paramoralistic, often insulting utterances which always contain some degree of suggestion."

I don't think a more clear description of Duncan's behavior in this situation could be given.

Roysta, your views have now similarly spanned both articles yet your message speaks continually to sweeping things under the rug, being adult’s etc. The problem is in fact that once things like what the good publicist said becomes germane, especially in such a dramatic petulant fashion, there is absolutely no sweeping under the rug allowed, he must be accountable for his actions. If he is not in some type of league then his words will add up; however, the geometry is looking tricky.

Mr. Road’s crafted such words as ‘cult’ and hurled that at forum member’s et al; oh boy that’s rich, like the axis of evil and all those terrorists. That crafted slight might just about resemble the totality of our human condition as it is – yes/no? As for members, we can come and go, read and understand as we wish and here’s the kicker Roysta, it is of free will not cult enslavement.

PS. Well researched Allen, not something anyone would want to uncover.

Laura and the other Sott contributors didn't "throw Duncan Roads and Nexus out with the bathwater". They hung in, in spite of what I'd have to call Duncan's bogun-brat-from-hell behavior. They stated their position and offered him ample evidence and opportunity to reason and consider his. I can understand it may feel uncomfortable, the 'rabbit hole' usually does, but this isn't "spite and revenge" or a "SLANGING MATCH". For me, at least, Allens' research brought some things clearly into focus; some of the puzzle pieces fit neatly into place. All round, I think this little event offers the opportunity for valuable 'lessons'.

Nexus Magazine is a bimonthly alternative news magazine, published from Australia and distributed around the world in a variety of languages. We cover a wide variety of topics, including alternative health; future science, the unexplained, human rights, geopolitics, conspiracy theories and ancient history. Nexus Magazine, and its owners (myself and my partner Catherine) are not affiliated to any political, religious or spiritual group, organisation or ideology. We simply publish information that we find stimulating, challenging and interesting, and we have been doing this since the late 1980s.

In early 2008 Nexus published an article about the discovery by Jim Humble that the proper use of chlorine dioxide could lead to a malaria cure. It triggered an phenomenal level of interest, which resulted in large-scale reader experimentation. The reported results from readers and users across the world were of amazing successes with a huge range of diseases and conditions. (See Nexus, volume 15, number 2). A year later we updated the article with yet more health information, and again received a flood of testimonies from happy readers. In other words, the stuff works folks. Simple as that.

Nexus also organises conferences, both in Australia and Europe. These conferences are reflective of the wide range of subjects we cover in the magazine, and are designed to give readers more information on specific topics.

The Dutch representative for Nexus Magazine, is a guy called Herman Hegge. He is a co-founder and director of Frontier Sciences Foundation (FSF) in Holland. They publish a magazine similar to Nexus, but in Dutch language; and they also distribute Nexus Magazine (english language copies) to various subscribers and shops across Europe. Every year Herman organises a conference or two, with a wide variety of speakers on an equally wide range of topics. This year he asked me for permission to call his conference "Nexus Conference 2010". I gave permission on the condition that I could approve the list of speakers. Early on in the piece, I was asked to approve the possibility of Jim Humble and Laura Knight-Jadzyck as speakers. I did so, giving both of them a glowing endorsement - and this was based on my understanding and research of both of them.

The Drama:
It was a long weekend, I had a bad night's sleep. Even though it was a public holiday I went to work to check the email. An email from Herman in Holland was advising that Laura Knight-Jadzyck had pulled out of the conference, was accusing Jim Humble of being a conman, fraud and hoaxer, and was accusing Nexus Magazine of being a cointelpro outfit. These public slanders were appearing on the SOTT website, on their Focus page; and on her Facebook page. I hit the roof and vented my rage on her Facebook page. Not a very mature thing to do, nor is what I said very polite or mature. But stuff it, I was being attacked by someone I had considered an ally. I had ignored the rumours that she was a fraud, and if anything, tended to think the rumours were evidence she was doing a good job. Ditto with Jim Humble.

After I lashed out on her Facebook page, I took some deep breaths, and dived into investigating Laura Knight-Jadzyck and her organisation. I was shocked to see how many unhappy people (all ex-colleagues of hers) are vigorously pursuing her for a variety of reasons - mostly financial.

So I then logged onto the SOTT website and tried to assert my case. Since SOTT and Laura's lackeys had demonstrated that their tactics were at gutter level, I decided to join them in their own gutter, and at their own level. Silly me. It was like trying to be heard in a school-yard bashing. Lots of weenies and cowards standing around, not listening, and each putting in the boot to an perceived weak point. You have to read their absurd posts to believe how far they have disappeared up their own spiritual bottoms. All with a superior air of righteousness, one that surpasses even that possessed by most born-again christians (you know - the ones who KNOW they are saved, but you are not) Trying to communicate with this pack mentality was impossible. Her followers are incapable of independent thought, as evidenced by their worshipful assumption that SOTT and Laura can do no wrong.

Laura and Joe have distorted many pieces of key information about what happened regarding the Nexus Conference fiasco, and their mindless followers have lapped it up. I am now seen as the aggressor in all this, and my actions are being used as evidence that Laura is under attack from cointelpro forces - and thus by default, Laura must be 'right' and is a 'threat' to the system.

I surrender guys - you cannot argue with the deliberate distortions of the SOTT leaders, nor with their mindless followers.

To any 'normal' people reading this - I'm only human, I had a bad day and called Laura nasty names (like: fatso, freak lard-arse, mindless and more). I confess I was so pissed off that I couldn't even type properly. My bad day will be used by SOTT forever as evidence that I am a cointelpro operation, that MMS is dangerous and needs to be removed from the market, and that Jim Humble is an evil conman. Go figure!

If I were to apologise to anyone, it would not be to Laura, or her followers, it would be to the people out there like Roy (Roysta) - ie people who know I am capable of behaving better, and were let down.

now that you should know, based on the well researched articles about Jim Humble, what actions are you taking in regards to Humble, Mr. Duncan? Are you cancelling his appearance and are you going to write an editorial in the next Nexus about Humble and his con game?

What greater principle are you going to align yourself with? The choice is always there!

"Mindless follower" of Laura and Joe (sic) here. I have a question - what are you going to do now? Are you going to expose this con artist Humble?

He is selling bleach to people and claiming that it will cure any disease they have! Bleach, Mr Roads!

This chemical kills healthy cells and causes serious problems. The more you take it, the worse you will get. Are you going to expose this fraud, who is probably on a verge of some sort of prosecution anyway?

This is gonna spread like wildfire now because this shameful con cannot be allowed to continue any longer. And you acted like a bully in a position of power - having a "bad day" is a very poor excuse.

I'm not gonna read a magazine edited by somebody like you - maybe it's time to let others have a go. A person who can handle responsibility and cares about the well-being of his/her readers.

Oh, that's right - you own it. Well, not to worry - plenty of competition around!

Are you going to expose the dangerous lies of Humble - or do you, in fact, profit from giving MMS (Bleach) its undeserved publicity?

Your reputation is at stake here as well, mate. Better get a good night's sleep and give it a serious thought.

Then behave better. You did not start it yet. Remember, Duncan, results is all that counts.

System
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2010-04-29T05:00:54Z

and there's the rub

on the one hand we have the calling into question the medical safety of a product which is being touted as a cure-all, but which has apparent problems that should, by ANY responsible ethical standards, be examined in very close detail, for the benefit of all. And also the pointing out that, this not being done, shows a certain lack of discernment which, although common, is very dangerous given the infinite ability of the higher forces of this world to manipulate anyone lacking awareness.

And on the other hand, we have the kind of shocking remarks of a language that, if you overheard them being made to your mother, would make you want to take a flying punch at whoever uttered them.

Since this continued and escalated with your rants and then cutting and pasting old rants of the same type from your newly discovered bedfellows (who will help you along greatly in your determined course of destroying your reputation) can you tell the readers here: how many bad days can someone have to excuse this kind of behavior?

Ummm... Duncan, did you read the article above? Based on facts, not wild claims, emotional rants and rumors.

If you haven't read it, please do so, and carefully. Notice who you are aligning yourself with. And please get facts and data... like real evidence? Otherwise you are going to find yourself in a very embarrassing position. I've never sued Vinnie and his gang for their defamation because they don't have anything to sue for and it's a lot of money to spend to not get even the legal fees covered and since they have nothing to lose, it's not likely that losing would stop them.

On the topic of your "revelations" about the conference you write:

"This year he asked me for permission to call his conference "Nexus Conference 2010". I gave permission on the condition that I could approve the list of speakers. Early on in the piece, I was asked to approve the possibility of Jim Humble and Laura Knight-Jadzyck as speakers. I did so, giving both of them a glowing endorsement - and this was based on my understanding and research of both of them."

One can easily check that on April 25 there was no Jim Humble listed on Argusoog Radio,
[Link]he is also not listed on Conference Alerts.
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A few sites IN DUTCH announced Humble at the end of March. But there was nothing in English.

Based on what you are saying, you planned for Humble from the beginning, but planned to "spring him" in English at the last minute?

So, on that topic, let me quote Ark:

"Each conference organizer has the right to choose the conference speakers. And also the right to make last minute changes. But then he has to face the problem that some of the originally invited speakers will cancel their participation. These things happen once in a while also with strictly scientific conferences that I participated in (or that I have cancelled my participation). They (the invited speakers) agreed to participate - in one environment that was announced with the invitation. Then the organizers changed the environment and thus have to face the consequences and the responsibility. Moreover, in this particular case the organizers of the conference were far from being sincere. Refusing to invite Richard Dolan "because of the tight schedule", and then adding "Breaking News" - Jim Humble, seems to indicate that the conference was not quality oriented but money oriented. Why would I go to such a conference?"

And again: "The conference speakers do not have to read all posts on all forums to see what are the rumors there. They communicate with the conference organizers and assume that what they are being told is factual. If not - the conference organizers face the consequences."

Best see about issuing refunds to all those who are asking. Since you have taken some of the responsibility in your post above, you should do the right thing or, as Ark says, face the consequences.

3) There is more to this business of Jim Humble and his appearance at the Nexus Conference than is apparent on the surface.
(end quote)

After reading all of Duncan's attempts at justification, I'm rather inclined to think that the problem is a combination of all three.

As Lobaczewski points out in "Political Ponerology," evil is spread via a network of individuals who are not quite normal or who have been injured by pathological individuals, society, or just the vicissitudes of life.

One individual has posted information that suggests that Duncan grew up in a ponerized environment and that many, if not most, of the people from that region are "that way," i.e. barely civilized.

This morning, I received an email from a correspondent quoting an exchange with Duncan that was rather similar to our experience, only occurring some years ago. In that instance, apparently Roads descended immediately to making "suggestive" remarks that are more in line with what boys going through puberty would say in the washroom at school.

Another correspondent sent me a screen shot of Duncan Roads recent rant on another forum where he made filthy remarks about Joe Quinn and my daughter over the past day or two. As about anybody knows who is interested, they have been a couple for years now, are engaged to be married, and its even been announced on Facebook.

All in all, it just comes back to what Gurdjieff said, quoted by Joe in the expose on Jim Humble and Nexus:

(quote)
A decent man will behave decently even if he thinks that he has been treated unjustly or wrongly.

But many people in such circumstances show a side of their nature which otherwise they would never show.

And at times it is a necessary means for exposing a man's nature.

So long as you are good to a man he is good to you. But what will he be like if you scratch him a little?
(end quote)

So, sorry, Duncan. Having a bad day and not getting any sleep is no excuse. Your true nature has been exposed. As Anart wrote above:

(quote)
So, this brings to mind what Lobaczewski wrote about the paranoid character disorder - and I only quote it because it's so darn accurate that it can't really be ignored...

Lobaczeski wrote: "Paranoid character disorders: It is characteristic of paranoid behavior for people to be capable of relatively correct reasoning and discussion as long as the conversation involves minor differences of opinion. This stops abruptly when someone's arguments begin to undermine the individual's overvalued ideas, crush their long-held stereotypes of reasoning, or forces them to accept a conclusion they had subconsciously rejected before. Such a stimulus unleashes upon the other person a torrent of pseudo-logical, largely paramoralistic, often insulting utterances which always contain some degree of suggestion."

I don't think a more clear description of Duncan's behavior in this situation could be given.

1. being honest about yourself and in same time blind to see that Duncan is at least duped and at worst real desinfo agent.
2. you are cointelpro doing damage control because Nexus did get exposed in some way and PTB doesn't want that because it's great source of desinformation and they are ready to use Humble as scapegoat but normally not Nexus.

And Laura work and work of Alex Jones, David icke, etc.. isn't the same in depth of information, financial support, and i think it's very naive to think that all are the same because they aren't, cointelpro works in numerous ways, and devil is in the details, and it looks like Duncan is off track with reality, look all the evidence, ego is leading him or maybe it's his intention.

This Duncan is also a real actor, saying he did react with emotions that again does insults, saying that group isn't spiritual and insulting is?
And if he decided to take Laura in Amsterdam he should have investigated her work before not after and these looks like now when you "don't like me" I'll find something about you, really childish Duncan but i think that's the main problem with Nexus- believing not researching, but maybe that's the goal!

I thought it very revealing that Mr. Roads chose to write about his "good excuses" for his childish behavior but made no mention of the content of this article.

Also very revealing that instead of actually looking into some serious research and facts, he decides that MMS "works, folks", based on feedback from "many people". Is Mr. Roads really so gullible that doesn't know that there will always be a lot of people claiming that miracles like MMS work? What about all the bad reports? What about Mr. Humble's (may I say criminal?) reports and the hypotheses in this article? Is he willing to even consider them for a minute? I doubt it.

From Mr. Road's comment above, it seems that he still is having some bad days. Guess what? We all have bad days, and his behavior says much more than that. If having a bad day makes someone lose so much control that it can lead to endangering the reputation of a magazine like Nexus, I really think Mr. Roads should take a long vacation.

Lastly, the biggest proof to me that Mr. Roads does not pay attention to FACTS is that he so easily believes the lies of Vincent Bridges and gang. Very revealing, in my humble opinion...

was stunned to read Mr Roads' comment under such well researched article, where he never refers to any parts of the content. I wondered if he read it at all. And he chooses to align with those defaming Laura... Hmmmmm. Perhaps Mr Roads never reads anything of value and truth in it? Because if he was willing to put some effort (it takes a lot of reading and requires more than few brain neurons firing) he would have delved into reading all of Laura's book and online contributions, that truly are a testament to who she is and what she has done. Laura never hid any aspect of her life, and her research, digging and putting pieces together all these years has helped soooooo many people.

It's mind-boggling this inability of his to grasp the evident facts...

The fact of the matter is that MMS is VERY DANGEROUS. It may have helped some people, but is essentially poison to the human organism and kills the good with the bad. It can be likened to chemotherapy in this respect. Also, like chemotherapy, MMS is considered an option by many already very ill and weakened individuals. The difference is that MMS, unlike chemotherapy, is recommended to almost anyone with even a case of the cold and these people are advised NOT to talk with their doctors about the treatment.

Laura decided to cancel her appearance at the Nexus conference because she felt ethically obligated to distance herself from and state her case against any endorsements of this poison to the sick. To a lot of people, her decision was admired as the right thing to do - and one would THINK that it would at least be respected by professionals as her personal choice.

Why is it that you decided to start monkey poo slinging, anyway? I heard that you amused yourself and others, publicly, with colorful questions and theories about the nature of my relationship with Joe. Was that supposed to lead to a strong case against Laura and Joe? Maybe you thought that Joe was only supporting Laura because he was ‘kept happy’? That’s it! My own mother prostitutes me out in exchange for support in the form of SOTT focus articles. Of course, if Joe DIDN’T support Laura, you would then be trying to use THAT as evidence of her badness. Either that, or snuggling up to him with a hundred dollars and exclamations of how right he is to support your angry opinions.

The analogy of a chemotherapeutic drug hits the nail on the head. The way MMS is promoted in the alternative health area is quite irresponsible, it is clearly not a natural solution!

"Death in Paradise":

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"People who drink MMS are consuming chlorine dioxide, a bleach added to drinking water and swimming pools and used to prepare some foods, such as flour. Because it is highly explosive, it must be mixed by adding citric acid to sodium chlorite from an MMS kit on site, before it is imbibed.

The product's American creator, Jim Humble, describes himself variously as a scientist, prospector and saviour of the human race who discovered the substance's powers while looking for gold in a South American rainforest in 1996.

In 2007, says the promotional blurb, ''this man heroically stepped out of the shadows to make this information and natural solution freely available to all humanity''.

''He believes the long-term availability of this substance … may soon be heavily controlled by 'the powers that be'.'' At $US20 a bottle, Humble claims 200,000 Americans are now using it to cure everything from cancer to HIV to swine flu.

Nash, meanwhile, has spent his months in Vanuatu warning the world about Humble's elixir.

His letter to friends was published by a US magazine and on alternative health websites, sparking a cyberspace barney. Devotees swore by its healing powers. Critics linked it to other deaths."

the truth is bleach is one of the most dangerous chemicals we use, people with any sense know this, common sense tells you that using it to cure your health is clearly false and misleading, how many drugs and miracle cures have we seen over the last 30 years that have been withdrawn after it was found they where toxic or poisonous or cancerous to the human condition, i like nexus magazine and i like everything laura j does, personally im not getting involved and you certainly will not find me drinking bleach no matter what any body says, i think if laura wishes to withdrawl from a conference that is her choice duncan, and if you don't like some one elses free choices thats your problem, if you didn't like laura's reasons than that is your issue to.
I must note to everyone that i as an individual choose very carefully who i associate with and we all know the reasons why.
We are all involved in a very dangerous game.
I hold it my right to withdrawl association with an individual or group at any time i feel its required wether it be at the last minute or from the start.
And that applies to all of us on this planet,
thats our free choice.

...is that Duncan Roads is still on the attack like this--this time searching the Web for comments made against Laura by others who he does not personally know, then posting them here. Neither the article I wrote nor the one Joe Quinn wrote were about Duncan Roads or even Jim Humble, per se, yet he feels compelled to attack like this, then attack again.

I was genuinely surprised by his first response to Laura's cancellation. Not because he was obviously upset, but because I assumed (I've never met him) that he was a professional...yet his response was absolutely unconscionable for a professional. It was for this reason that I listed three possibilities for his behavior. Just what would cause an Editor/Publisher/Owner of a well-known magazine to go off like that, in public and in writing, no less?!

You'll notice, however, that I only pursued one of these possibilities: the one that did not involve him, personally. I could have contacted people who've worked with Mr. Roads, or found forums where less-than-complimentary things had been written about him, and used those statements as an argument for a chemical imbalance, psychological problem or some such. These kinds of things are all too easy to find. But I didn't. And I didn't because I had neither desire nor reason to attack anyone, least of all Duncan Roads.

Yet, reading what Lobaczeski wrote on Paranoid character disorders, I have to say that it provides a stunning description of the actions of Mr. Roads. This is not a judgment made based on hearsay and the rants of others I've never met and know nothing about. This is a judgment based on direct interaction, right here in front of all who care to read it. Here is that description, again:

"It is characteristic of paranoid behavior for people to be capable of relatively correct reasoning and discussion as long as the conversation involves minor differences of opinion. This stops abruptly when someone's arguments begin to undermine the individual's overvalued ideas, crush their long-held stereotypes of reasoning, or forces them to accept a conclusion they had subconsciously rejected before. Such a stimulus unleashes upon the other person a torrent of pseudo-logical, largely paramoralistic, often insulting utterances which always contain some degree of suggestion."

Only this time the trap didn't seem to work like with the whole VB/Jay Weidner episode... That name, Weidner, if correct, should have been a sign in itself... so close to 'weird'. Who says the universe doesn't have a sense of humor?

Seems Laura keeps getting tested around the same issue doesn't it? The script doesn't seem to change much either, nor the actors sent in as foibles for her and her teams lessons.

It seems that since Laura didn't come to them, they have to come to her. Fun stuff! It seems almost exactly the same script doesn't it? The same comments, the same tactics? Very amusing if, like me, you are sitting on the sidelines enjoying the show. Even that last little test with that couple seemed a repeat of the same lesson of learning to 'see the unseen' in people. Who is 'real' and who is not. The real question seems to be whether another test is needed to double check the test results? If the current pattern holds, the gatekeepers will be in place beforehand and not after, same with the website.

Gatekeepers serve a purpose as do these tempters of fate. This MMS seems just another 'snake oil salesman' routine to me. Who but a 'salesman' makes such claims? Isn't this just more gaming of the masses? If the monoatomic gold doesn't get them, perhaps MMS will? Especially if they haven't collapsed from all the rest of the stuff polluting our personal and public environment. All obstacles we need learn to maneuver thru, around, over or under as we follow that thread out of this Matrix.

The mention of changes to the sessions was interesting, as I've noticed that for the last couple of years, only from the downloaded version I did a few years ago. Little changes that only hyperdimensional changes could really explain, as they are so small. Names listed that weren't in my memory there before. Those little 'glitches' always get my attention for some reason, funny that no one else has mentioned it before. As for the rest, interpretation like Napolean's possession, is 9/10's of the law isn't it? Like Don in Carla and Jim's Ra sessions, it was he that was the contact, though not the grooved channel. He was asking the questions and the answers were targeted for his interpretation. So, the matter comes back to how Laura, the Cassio contact interprets the data does it not? Add that, like our understanding of ourselves and our environment, that understanding grows with the passage of 'time' and all lifes' little experiences like the one mentioned in this article. Things are seen later that weren't understood at first or even later glances. "Signs" unnoticed along the way that can now be seen as the veil slowly drops from our self-conscious awareness.

Character assassination is a sure sign of being on the 'right' path as all the shadows then come out to play. The more sure you become of your footing, the easier treading that path becomes as that mirror session with Mr. VB well illustrated.

This experience and its reaction seems like a part of the larger script with minions having tunnel vision that limits one's field of view and makes them seem but a pawn in the larger chess match being played with them as the sacrificial pawns who never see it coming. How many times does it take them to learn their lesson? Couldn't the same be said of us all?

Until they become lessons well learned, it seems the 'fun and games' shall continue. Too bad, as there are so many study notes lying around from past tests.

Digging up this unsubstantiated old slime from your new-found pals and concocting your own has shown you up quite well. So how many more bad days will Roads have writing up smutty insinuations even about Joe and Anna's relationship? He exhibits the level of toilet poets who write offensive graffiti in school bathrooms. This type of behavior reflects on Roads and Nexus. So any substantive data has not been forthcoming from our illustrious "editor", but instead, a continuous stream of repulsive rants.

"“In December of 2002, I sent the Jadczyk’s a check, #6548, for three raffle tickets. The check was cashed by a New Port Richey bank on January 3rd, 2003. The check is endorsed to an account in the name of the Perseus Foundation, and signed by Dr. A. Jadczyk. In February of 2003,"

This person is obviously clueless about how non-profit banking works. Just so ya'll know, no checks made out to Perseus Foundation were ever endorsed by anyone, least of all, Ark. Such checks are stamped, there is no signature. I would simply ask the person to make a scan of the check, front and back, and show it.

That's just one of the small clues that reveal the liars for what they are.

This sleeze from proven grifter Vincent Bridges: "The proof is in the pudding and the records are there to find if anyone seriously wants to look. Laura used to need 151 Rum to channel - does she still? There has been MANY a witness to this. I talked to former group members in the USA, and now am talking to people in France who are loosing loved ones to this cult."

Notice "the records are there to find if anyone seriously wants to look." Notice that HE does not produce them. Why? Because he can't. They don't exist. His whole rant is, like his life, a cocaine frenzied fantasy of Ophanic aliens and self-delusion. He can't even spell "losing." As anybody who knows me through all those years will tell you - I was a teetotaler for over 30 years.

Believe what you like, Duncan. The fact that you are so easily taken in by disgusting filth is quite revealing. It answers the question as to whether you were actually complicit with that gang of assassins that Jim Humble belongs to, the same gang that was involved in the assassination of JFK. I don't think we have to look any further than this apparent "sudden enamoration" with that CIA funded Bridges gang.

For all details, including links to the evidence, see this thread on the cass forum:
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=673.0

You have to be a member with a certain number of posts to access this insider info.

System
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2010-04-30T02:55:52Z

Mr. Duncan

You've lost your credibility way earlier when you refused to even consider that there may be something wrong with MMS (your argument being thousands of people say otherwise).

And now with quoting the kind of stuff you are quoting, you just keep on shooting yourself in the foot.
You see, some people here learned to use a convenient little thing called Google a long time ago, and I can't even imagine a responsible reader who hasn't done so, so the things you're quoting aren't exactly news here.

IMO, what we've just witnessed happen here is how some of the Laura's loudest opponents come into existence, they don't bother to check her up in the first place (and then form an opinion about her, based on relevant facts), first idealize, then are told something they don't want to hear, can't except it, so they go around, find others who were similarly 'wronged' and cry cult (and various insulting stuff).

In the end line, you received some pretty good advice here, from the same people you're attacking, are you going to learn something from it remains to be seen, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.

I've been watching this unfold over the last few days and find a few things interesting.

For someone who is an editor, your language skills are lacking when formulating an argument, you consistently revert to name calling. This makes you look childish.

For someone who is supposedly well read, it's amazing to me that you would be a lurker on a forum and yet retain very little memory of a person's dietary habits even though that information is widely discussed.

For someone who is so moral and accuses someone of theft, you have refused to issue refunds to people politely asking for them. In addition, you are currently updating your website in a feeble attempt to protect yourself.

All of this leads me to believe that every accusation you have made and will continue to make is really an attempt to deflect attention from who you really are.

It is you who is petty.
It is you who who distorts information for their own purposes.
It is you who is interested in financial gain and will do what ever is necessary to hold on to it.
It is you who also after doing "months of research" on the "Surviving the Fall" still decided to ask Laura to come to the conference when you had such strong beliefs to the contrary.
It is you who believes that the end justifies the means.

Duncan Roads, owner and editor of Nexus Magazine is now banned. We had hoped that he would be able to settle down, get a grip on himself, consider the issues, etc. but that no longer seems possible. He has descended to spamming copy-pastes from GLP on other articles on SOTT.

It's really sad to see that someone who is supposed to be setting an example, is so deficient in the qualities needed for leadership in these perilous times. The only conclusion we can draw from this experience is that Nexus Magazine, edited by an individual as troubled and lacking perspicacity as Mr. Roads, is not a source of reliable information about any of the topics published.

MMS is definitely strong stuff. Maybe if enough of it is poured into the cesspool Roads' new pals have been dwelling in, and he himself has found so hospitable after his first "bad day," it could even clean up THAT mess. It is bleach after all.

that I learned from this thread of comments and is actually a positive one. Now I know who is really behind the Nexus magazine and what his true colors are.

It's been nearly 10 years I do not read the Nexus magazine, but since the early 90's I admit I was reading it. Later, as my knowledge grew, the indiscriminate publishing of all sorts of questionable theories in this magazine made me discontinue reading it. But I was left wondering who was behind this paper, since my father was still reading it and running to me with every theory published in the Nexus as if it was the ultimate truth.

Sure, there were pieces of truth there. It is from the Nexus I first learned about the damage the vaccines do to your health, but as I learned first hand, good disinfo is always laced with some truth.

And so I see the damage such magazines like Nexus do to people like my father, who lacks discernment and who learns to trust the magazine, and then go and promote the lies it publishes. This always made me very suspicious towards this particular newspaper.

And now, I know who is behind it and in what regard he keeps the truth.

In the light of above commnents from the editor and owner of Nexus, my suspicions make perfect sense and for this I thank SOTT...

Any reasonable person would actually be thanking Sott for all the bother they went to in highlighting and questioning the use of MMS. That this then led to the pulling of dangling threads about Mr Humble's past and an even curiouser future direction is eye-opening to everyone potentially using or considering MMS. In particular, Nexus readers...

This could all have saved Mr Roads a whole heap of problems by association, but too late now i suppose. His behaviour as seen here is simply pathological, breath-taking actually.

He clearly is not interested in pursuing the truth, or is he interested in the wellbeing of Nexus magazine readers or subscribers.. how can he be?

For all those who have met or corresponded with Mr Roads and found him to be a decent dude, you probably just never had a DISAGREEMENT with him...

Right Man Syndrome??

Pattern – "There Are No Shades of Grey" - Black and White Thinking.

With this pattern we see that moderation and mediation are not permissible. Everything is either one thing or another, anything in between is simply not allowed.

Thus The Right Man will often be an alcoholic or will abstain completely. He either loves someone totally or hates them emphatically; you are either completely on his side or you are against him totally, and so on. Yet oddly in spite of all the obvious behaviours that he many display to the contrary, he will often claim to not have a view on the matter at hand at all.

Nearly everything in The Right Man’s world is in an extreme position and his communication with other people tends to force them to choose such a position also, something they may live to regret doing. Failure to conform to this way of thinking is usually interpreted - and thus exploited - as a weakness.

For example, when asked to moderate his aggressive tone, one such Right Man replied aggressively, "Fine! Then I will stop speaking to you altogether."

This pattern is both a spontaneous pattern and can often be employed effectively as a mechanism to control other people.

To The Right Man mentioned above, the author simply replied, "thank you."

The Right Man is adept at tracking another speaker's words and will look for the slightest contradiction and then exploit it. The Rule of Permanency is also invoked, so any contradiction expressed over time is also exploited. So something expressed last year that is contradicted today will quickly be jumped upon. Thus, the other speaker cannot have a change of mind, opinion, or desire where The Right Man is concerned, unless of course The Right Man grants his permission.

All this of course comes as quite a surprise to the attackee, who had long since given up the notion of trying to get The Right Man to actually act as though he were indeed listening to a word that the attackee ever said anyway.

A common curiosity is just where the Right Man gets his information from, as he so rarely appears to ever be listening.

The Right Man is very skilled in subject-changing, not listening and ready distraction when someone else is speaking. This gives the impression to the speaker that the Right Man doesn't actually ever listen. This is also a trap.

it is amazing that you cannot show any facts to the contrary whatsoever. All you can do is to resort into name calling, ranting ("pity me") and copy-pasting. This is really cheap, if not abnormal psychological behaviour.

We had hoped that Duncan Roads, owner and publisher of Nexus Magazine, might have a bit more to him, that he might reflect and realize that this whole thing was not about him, not about me, but was about a dangerous chemical that is hurting people and even killing people. As we pointed out, COINTELPRO is run from behind the scenes and most "agents" don't even know they are being vectored. But that has not happened. Duncan has descended to spamming other, unrelated articles on this site with childish, pathological rants, most of which is copied/pasted from a defamatory website that just may find itself in hot water in the not too distant future.

Ya'll need to remember that all this crap that is spewed by Vincent Bridges and his gang was brought into the lawsuit filed against us by Eric Pepin and Higher Balance Insitute and the judge wrote in his decision in our favor that he had personally researched the claims himself, on both sides, and found no merit in the HB/Pepin arguments.

That is enshrined in case law.

But, that's still not the point.

Way back when Vincent Bridges was worming his way into my life and I had a lot of confidence that he was everything he claimed to be (which turned out not to be true), a number of people pointed out to me the true nature of what he was doing, what he was into, and the dangers involved. Did I attack the people who told me that? Did I take a ridiculous stand and defend my "rightness" to the death?

No. I was upset, of course. But then I calmed down and looked at the evidence that was given to me and realized that they were right, and as embarrassing as it might be, I needed to make a declaration in public that I had been wrong, that I had made a mistake, and that I was now correcting that mistake. That involved canceling my attendance at a conference organized by Vincent Bridges and Jay Weidner and gang. What they did was exactly what Duncan Roads has just done.

All this does is distract from the issue to hand: a dangerous chemical and, in the case of Jim Humble, a VERY dangerous "church" that has a very dark history.

Duncan does not seem to be the least bit interested in those main issues. He publishes a magazine that is supposed to expose conspiracies and the dark doings of the underbelly of the beast and he has, basically, been exposed as being part of it! All his ranting and carrying on has reminded me of the old saying: "The guilty flee when no man pursues." Nobody was going after Duncan, nobody was going after Nexus. It was all about MMS and Jim Humble.

So what is Duncan hiding that he has to blow up so much smoke to hide it?

All this time and effort over Duncan...this whole thing has become the Duncan show (by his own hand) when it wasn't even about him.
The really interesting (or strange?) thing is that if Duncan had not caused a stir and started name calling/acting inappropriately this and the other article may never have been produced, and we'd be none the wiser! And yet its not even to do with Duncan! How weird is that??
Heck if he could channel the same energy he puts into all this bashing (his head against a wall repeatedly...only to try harder because the wall didn't break) into digging, he's make one heck of a researcher.
I'm pretty sure he'll just keep banging his head against the wall until he passes out though...

I've just caught up with the comments...and I have to ask, are you suffering from a chemical brain imbalance? I mean no insult by this...its out of concern for your well being.

The only behaviour that I've ever come across close to this is some kid screaming for his life because he didn't get his way....he really was screaming as if his life depended on it (he looked like he'd pass out too).....the sort of scream that makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up....and makes Everyone think something is wrong with the child.

I find your behaviour quite disturbing Duncan. Please for your own sake at least consider seeking professional help, this is not normal behaviour for a healthy adult...nor the child I witnessed.

I too am a little concerned about Duncan. At some point he seemed to begin to realize he had let his tongue be run by emotions, when he apologized for the childish name calling. But apparently that was just an illusion and wishful thinking on my part because after that it has just been downhill with his 'logic'.

I'm afraid he's gone off the deep end now. Which is very unfortunate because he is in an influential position as an editor of a magazine.

Here is a copy of the email I have sent a while ago to Duncan (with a CC to other Nexus-related officials):

Hi Duncan,

You wrote publicly about me, signing it with you name:

"Laura never mentioned OPs until after DARPA Ark came in and mind controlled her. Remember he worked with Popper and Soros and DARPA long before he ever met Laura. Popper was a member of Tavistok which is a British organization devoted to de-population of the earth. Soros is a Rothschild agent who funded Ark's many trips to the US...."

Ark - that's me. Do you think anything about me in the above is true?
I suggest that next time you write about someone - you first check the data. That is what professional journalism is about. I am a scientist, not a journalist and not an editor (although I am on the editorial board of some scientific and popular journals). Yet I think my scientific experience may be helpful.

If you would like to have some data about me - I can help you and tell you all I know. Then you can check yourself whether what I provide you fits your other data. But you must know how to distinguish between the data and what this or that person claims. People say all kind of things, for various reasons. And you should know it.

System
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2010-04-30T08:26:28Z

Laughing Bridges to Roads end.

Humble thinks he’s a God — Laura thinks she’s human.

Better path to health: Bleach or Breathe?

For those with eyes to see and ears to hear, may I ask a ‘not-so’ Humble request:

Maybe now would be a good time to try a little more EE and a lot less mmBS (period)

I just wanted to say that reading about this whole episode and seeing it unfold has been a great learning experience. It's mindboggling, once again, to see how people turn out to be under the surface - once they have been 'scratched'.

It has also been great to see how wonderfully and calmly Laura and Ark has handled the whole thing, I think it motivates us all to keep working on ourselves!

System
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2010-04-30T08:51:13Z

Pathetic

I cant believe people just simply refuse to do a little research for themselves just to get a clear picture on issues. From what i can see regarding Duncan it looks like he has never done any research in his life, cut & paste seem to be his holy grail. I would have expected a lot better from a editor. The childish rants has realy made me think about his creditability. Insulting Laura & talking crap about her family matters is just so so low.

Laura wrote
"No. I was upset, of course. But then I calmed down and looked at the evidence that was given to me and realized that they were right, and as embarrassing as it might be, I needed to make a declaration in public that I had been wrong, that I had made a mistake, and that I was now correcting that mistake. That involved canceling my attendance at a conference organized by Vincent Bridges and Jay Weidner and gang. What they did was exactly what Duncan Roads has just done."

I don't see the possibility that duncan will confess his mistake,Not at this stage. Timing is too bad for him and his handlers know that clearly. It will be highly embarrassing for him to confess in front of the all the audience of the conference and kick Jim out. If he kicks out Jim, he has a bigger battle with his handler and possible bad press coverage, if his handlers wants. so, he won't confess or calm down until conference is over. Based on the feedback at the conference about the safety of MMS, he may switch plates and confess saying he was duped. His handlers are TOO cleverer than Duncan.

that maybe Duncan has been bullied during his childhood or something, which makes him act the way he acts now. He feels vulnerable, he feels being pushed into a corner, so he quickly went for some back-up and unfortunately found it with StormBear and the rest. This could be all because of some traumatic programs that were installed in him during childhood. He's not being bullied though, far from it, but that is probably how he's perceiving it at the moment. He is acting like a child, emotionally, calling names and all that. He is in defense mode. He's not seeing things as clearly as he should be.

So that could be a possibility and it makes you think that PERHAPS there might be some little sincerity in him.

But what kind of washes away that thought is the fact that he's not bothered with the people who decided to not attend the conference anymore and want to have their money back. The fact that he changed his website saying that refunding is not possible when there were no such thing before. That tells me that there is little to no sincerity.

The people who want their money back have nothing to do with his issues at the moment. There is enough reason why someone who doesn't want to attend should get a refund.
Be it for the fact that Laura chose to not attend the conference anymore, the fact that Jim Humble is now attending it or the fact that there was no rule that refunding would not be possible.

Does he realize that he is stealing money away from people, from families? How selfish? If he truly cares for humanity, he would not steal.

If he would be sincere, he would at least be sincere to these people. But no, he doesn't care. All he cares about is money and his image, it seems.

There is a note from Jim Humble posted at [Link]that states the following:

"MMS has been given to over 100,000 people the biggest portion who were babies and children. There was never any report of damage or problems. In addition I conducted clinical trials in prisons in the Central African country of Malawi and the government their verified my results with parallel tests, which was 100% of all prisoners treated were cured."

Stop and think for a moment exactly what Jim Humble said. He has taken a drug, for which he has not provided any formal safety tests as far as I can tell (at least none that I have been able to find posted), and has given it to BABIES AND CHILDREN!! And, given that he calls his prison trials "parallel tests" we might surmise that giving MMS to babies and children were also "clinical" trials...on babies.

As for his "clinical trials" in Malawian prisons, here is what Amnesty International has to say about the prisons in Malawi:

"Conditions in Malawian prisons are extremely poor. In part, no doubt, this is a consequence of the general level of poverty in the country, as well as severe overcrowding. In one prison, inmates have to sleep sitting up, back-to-back. However, there are a number of aspects of the bad conditions suffered by political detainees which appear to be a result of official policy: for example, the frequent BAN ON CORRESPONDENCE, the denial of reading or recreational materials, the frequent DENIAL OF MEDICAL ATTENTION and, above all, the IMPOSITION OF CRUEL, INHUMAN OR DEGRADING PUNISHMENTS."

Please tell me what it is about the above description that would lead one to think of this as a good place to do clinical trials for a drug.

Also, please tell me what sort of man--what sort of brain--would say, without even a touch of embarrassment, that the clinical trials for his drug took place in a Third World prison. That might be funny if all of this was a dark comedy, but it isn't. Not a comedy, at least, but it is definitely dark...and deadly serious.

Frankly, Duncan Road's reaction just makes me feel embarrassed for him at this point.

He didn't dare to respond to any of the simple questions asked to him, which concerned FACTS, or address anything mentioned in the article with FACTS.

He copied and pasted oooollllddd posts from GLP that had been addressed a long time and proven to be ridiculous. Aligning himself with that gang is just so bad for his reputation that I wonder how he never thought of that.

He couldn't control himself for a moment, when this article wasn't even about him!

Seriously, Mr. Roads, I don't think you realize the impression you are giving of yourself in here. And it's not just here, because this article is everywhere on the web and read by thousands of people now.

Someone who has nothing to hide and who has mastered her ego at least a little bit would have said: "Very well, Laura, we admit that we announced Jim Humble at the last minute, and we understand that you don't wish to be associated with him. Even if Nexus doesn't share your point of view, we wish you good luck." It was that simple.

An actual researcher of truth would also have added "We would be interested in receiving some facts concerning your conclusions about Mr. Humble and review our own position. We will get back to you to discuss it once we've read more on the subject". The data would have been provided, and the honest researcher would have been happy to have the possibility of reviewing his hypothesis.

But that seems to not have crossed Mr. Road's mind.

If this is what you call a research, then there is nothing in the Nexus Magazine that I would consider to be trustworthy material.

[quote=Chu]Someone who has nothing to hide and who has mastered her ego at least a little bit would have said: "Very well, Laura, we admit that we announced Jim Humble at the last minute, and we understand that you don't wish to be associated with him. Even if Nexus doesn't share your point of view, we wish you good luck." It was that simple.

An actual researcher of truth would also have added "We would be interested in receiving some facts concerning your conclusions about Mr. Humble and review our own position. We will get back to you to discuss it once we've read more on the subject". The data would have been provided, and the honest researcher would have been happy to have the possibility of reviewing his hypothesis.

But that seems to not have crossed Mr. Road's mind.

It's really amazing how simple it could have all been for Roads and Nexus, isn't it? One wonders why it had to come to the insane ravings of Roads. Maybe time will reveal other clues besides Roads' decidedly disturbed mind.

of pathology in action! I agree with others that it is childish. However, it's more than that. For an adult to demonstrate such emotional immaturity points to a psychopathology - there is likely something broken or developmentally stunted in Duncan's brain that causes him to behave abnormally. What frightens me is that this man naturally imprints his worldview (and through it, his pathological nature) onto millions of impressionable readers through his magazine, which is published worldwide. And he's been doing it since 1990 - that's 20 years! So Nexus of course is going to be coloured by Duncan's pathology.

Others above have quoted Andrew Lobaczewski's description of Paranoid Character Disorders, which fits Duncan's behaviour here like a glove. It's worth referencing Lobaczewski some more on this disorder, particularly as it relates to its effects on others:

"Paranoid character disorders: It is characteristic of paranoid behavior for people to be capable of relatively correct reasoning and discussion as long as the conversation involves minor differences of opinion. This stops abruptly when the partner’s arguments begin to undermine their overvalued ideas, crush their long-held stereotypes of reasoning, or force them to accept a conclusion they had subconsciously rejected before. Such a stimulus unleashes upon the partner a torrent of pseudo-logical, largely paramoralistic, often insulting utterances which always contain some degree of suggestion.

Utterances like these inspire aversion among cultivated and logical people, but they enslave less critical minds, e.g. people with other kinds of psychological deficiencies, who were earlier the objects of the egotistical influence of individuals with character disorders, and in particular a large part of the young.

A {working class person} may perceive this to be a kind of victory over higher-class people and thus take the paranoid person’s side. However, this is not the normal reaction among the common people, where perception of psychological reality occurs no less often than among intellectuals.

In sum then, the response of accepting paranoid argumentation is qualitatively more frequent in reverse proportion to the civilization level of the community in question, although it never approaches the majority. Nevertheless, paranoid individuals become aware of their enslaving influence through experience and attempt to take advantage thereof in a pathologically egotistic manner.

We know today that the psychological mechanism of paranoid phenomena is twofold: one is caused by damage to the brain tissue, the other is functional or behavioral. ... any brain-tissue lesion causes a certain degree of loosening of accurate thinking and, as a consequence, of the personality structure. ... Particularly during sleepless nights, runaway thoughts give rise to a paranoid changed view of human reality, as well as to ideas which can be either gently naive or violently revolutionary. Let us call this kind paranoid characteropathy.

In persons free of brain-tissue lesions, such phenomena most frequently occur as a result of being reared by people with paranoid characteropathia, along with the psychological terror of their childhood. Such psychological material is then assimilated creating the rigid stereotypes of abnormal experiencing. This makes it difficult for thought and world-view to develop normally, and the terror-blocked contents become transformed into permanent, functional, congestive centers."

Who would want to buy any product from a person like that? Was he so selfishly convinced that his magical product (which is bleach) will cure everybody and destroy every disease? And thus tested it on children, babies and on people in a 3rd World Prison?

I'm seriously thinking about how many died or were damaged severely from MMS and how such cases were never published. Especially in a 3rd World Prison where there is frequent denial of medical attention.

There is enough proof that MMS is deadly and harmful and this makes it even more unacceptable.

He is swimming in his consumers' money by deceiving and lying. How could someone do that right? How could someone live their life knowing one is selling a deadly product and be all good about it? Well, if you don't have a conscience, this all, is just like mowing the lawn.

In other words, he probably does not care for your health.

He might seem to have a great character, a kind spirit, he might say the most beautiful words, he might make you cry, tell you wonderful stories of how he saved certain people, how he sincerely wants to better your life etc. but there is one thing you will not see; The Facts. His True Identity. You would not know that all this time you were looking right into the eyes of a murderer. Yes, that's right, there is actual data that someone DIED from MMS.

So what's it gonna be? Will you listen to Humble and his experiment on human beings? Or will you listen to the data and the facts? Will you be his next guinea pig or will you second guess?

It fits in a category where it could be said, this is fiction, this is a novel, alas that happened for real, with real people and I played too a role in it...

And this makes it pretty sad, Mr. Duncan editor/owner of the Nexus Magazine, where he is in a position of trustworthiness shows here up without anything that comes even close to the word: trustworthiness.
Does he even know, that his name and behaviour could get connected to his magazine? I don't think so, what he did was rude and to the point ignorant not only to Laura, Joe and Ark but as well to all other readers, calling them names and blaming, well -us-.

And I have been really looking forward for this event of the Nexus Conference in Amsterdam, bought my ticket for it already in February, booked the flight, hotel, planned etc. and then this development which started with announcing Jim Humble about two weeks before the conference. As soon I discovered that, I wrote to Nexus, that I don't like to attend the conference anymore cause of the reason of Jim Humbles announcement and that I didn't buy for him in February, well heck I didn't even got an answer from them, 50 Euros as pocket money for Nexus? What the heck... This is stealing and rude to the extreme.

With this knowledge of all these happenings and this man who stands behind nexus, who cannot consider facts, cannot listen to other persons, even cannot calm down I make from now on a great circle around this magazine and do not even consider to look into it again.

I'm really lucky that I'm now at home and not tomorrow at the conference itself, with all this development.

I am very grateful you all allowed this chaotic drama to be played out here in public. It has given everyone a chance to see things for what they are. Mr Roads has had every opportunity to present data to support his claims, and instead chose to show himself as an obsessive, annoying spammer, going on the attack against anyone who disagrees with his view. Now that we have all had the chance to understand this, I am equally grateful to see he has been removed from the discussion. His contributions to it have amounted to nothing but noise.

System
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2010-04-30T11:52:36Z

Re Spirituality and Compassion

Just want to say that I feel like I’m being ‘pontificated’ against now and need to ‘defend’ my position because of the replies made to my comments by both Joe and Niles. You seem to have assumed that by mentioning spirituality and compassion towards others that attack us that I was suggesting ‘turning the other cheek’, that you should ’lie down and take abuse and lies from pathological people’, and that this comes from some form of ‘religious conditioning’ that I’m living under the delusion of. Sorry guys but you’ve got me all wrong. Maybe I should have said more to make my position clearer, like so many others here do, but I didn’t want to begin ‘pontificating’ myself… just express how it was all coming across to me as an observer.

To make my comments clearer, I should say that I know a bit about dealing with pathological people. I grew up with a sibling of this ilk and spent 20 years of my life dealing with another one on a very personal level. And I DO feel compassion for both, realizing in the end that both lead very, very miserable lives getting themselves all twisted up with the lies and deceptions they deal in each day along with the condemnation it usually ends up bringing them from any who learn to see through them. Using my mind like as a sword ‘to divide and cut’ through these deceptions is exactly what I learned to do, and still have to do at times with my sister. But both still love and respect me, even though they know only too well that I am not taken in by them anymore. They don’t often try it on me anymore and if they do, I let them know I’ve seen it and don’t appreciate it and then, if they persist, I IGNORE THEM until they come to their senses. They hate being ignored, just want to be loved (although you may question that) and feel secure like anyone else on this planet. Being ignored doesn’t give them that. It’s the antithesis of the power trip they are on.

And that is the point really. What I DID learn with both is that lecturing them and attacking them in turn only feeds their sickness, causing them to fight back with even more venom in even more insidious ways, using all the tricks that Niles listed to do so. In my opinion, fighting back means that I’M responsible for helping them to fall even DEEPER into their downward spiral, which I don’t feel is a very ‘spiritual’ act. To calmly let them know their manipulations aren’t working and why, bringing the situation back onto a truthful footing with all concerned and then continuing on in a dignified manner, ignoring them if they persist, I’ve found works wonders and keeps the situation from degenerating into this game of (at times nasty) point-scoring off each other.

And, as you said Joe, Jesus ‘is said to have spoken to and taught the 'drunkards' and the 'harlots' the disheveled and wayward citizens of his time’. He obviously considered them to be worthy of love of speaking his Truth to, wanting to help them rather than just outright condemn them. And even though I’m not religious per se, I do feel that we should try to live up to his example if we can.

Oh and, for the record, I didn’t and do not condone MMS. It’s obvious from Laura’s daughter’s experience with it and that of, apparently, many other poor souls that it needs to be withdrawn from sale. So many others pointed it out and it’s all so obvious that I didn’t think it needed to be commented on further by me.

This is not about lecturing and attacking them, it is about defending the truth and helping other people to see the pathological behavior for what it is. That kind of behavior is so pervasive nowadays that people often take it as normal. So what you see as attacks in this thread, I see it as the readers pointing to Duncan's behavior and saying "That's NOT normal" in their own ways. It's like a few frogs that have managed to jump out of the heating pot, or a few fish that have managed to escape the poisoned water, and try to point it out to those who are still behind how abnormal their environment is.

Frankly, reading the whole exchange here has been very educational to me. It shows me up close what pathological is like. And I guess it has been that way to quite a few others.

you cite your experience with family members and close friends. That is an entirely different situation than when dealing with a person that you do not know and who comes out of the wood-work to personally attack you. Yes, compassion can be shown to such a person, but the type of compassion that is required is different from the compassion that you would should to a sibling. It is a similar type of compassion that we would show to a person who was panicking in deep water and threatening to pull both you and him down. You keep them at bay until he calms down.

Duncan makes me think of Wile E. Coyote, the cartoon character. He can try all he wants to trap the (smarter and faster) Roadrunner, he always miserably fails and it usually backfires and humiliates him. But he cannot see that and he keeps on trying, using the same doomed-to-failure plans and traps, with the zeal of a true fanatic. It's less funny than the cartoon, though...

What could be afflicting Duncan may be exactly what has been proposed by others: that he has a wounded, vulnerable psyche that is susceptible to manipulation both from within and without. That really isn't so uncommon a state. All of us, with the best of intentions, have hurt other people with our actions and reactions which can be totally inappropriate.

All of us have attached ourselves to undesirable people, people who do not have our interests at heart, people who conceal their real motivations, people who, when push comes to shove, will dump us and/or betray us.

I doubt that Duncan is different, and he may even be a very wounded specimen who is particularly susceptible. That may be why Nexus Magazine was "handed" to him, as Wikipedia states. (And as Duncan states himself.)

The problem comes in when people do not understand that their subjectivity, their "reading errors" can be used not only to psychically drive them against others, but to do that which is most harmful to themselves. And not understanding this, not facing this fact about the self, means that a person isn't doing the work necessary to get over themselves.

So, we may assume that, for all the years he has headed it, Nexus Magazine has been a reflection of Duncan's subjectivity though certainly, it may have often published very good work. On those issues where he does not have a personal identification, Duncan may very well be quite astute.

The problem here is this: the broad overview of this situation indicates strongly that it WAS and orchestrated set-up in several ways.

But the question is: who was planning and participating CONSCIOUSLY, and who was being driven by their own internal make-up, cleverly managed and manipulated by someone who was conscious?

It's really funny that people who are so knowledgeable about conspiracies and COINTELPRO never think of applying the rules to themselves.

For example, on the Nexus Magazine website there is this:

(quote)
1. The most commonly-asked question sounds something like: "If what you publish is true, why haven't you been closed down?"

The answers that spring to mind are: (a) Somebody 'up there' likes us; (b) Nobody 'up there' gives a damn; (c) We are too big to close down without attracting yet more attention; (d) We are too small to worry about; (e) Maybe we are accidentally following some secret sociomanipulative agenda of somebody's; or (f) 'They' have never heard of NEXUS.

2. The second most frequently-asked question is similar: "Do you ever get any threats?"

The answer is definitely no. We have been indirectly warned off publishing too much on the drug trade involvement of the global intelligence community, and about who owns most of Australia, but that's about it.
(end quote)
[Link]
Duncan is clearly not naive in the extreme because he certainly proposes the correct answer: "Maybe we are accidentally following some secret sociomanipulative agenda of somebody's"

So, why hasn't he considered this and tested it? He should certainly know by now that any involvement with me will bring out the attack bots in droves. It will even result in his being manipulated covertly and against his stated intentions to not only participate in a set-up, but to actively attack the very ideas that are most needed to help humanity.

Now, if he is a good boy and goes back to publishing things that either don't help people, or lead them astray, or are confusing in the extreme, or harm them directly, all will be well and his success will be assured. And definitely, if he publishes a hit piece on me, he'll be rewarded!

You would think that, as a self-proclaimed "independent thinker" and "bad-ass" type of guy from Oz... "that's just how I am..." that he would be highly incensed to really realize how cunningly he has been played; and to the detriment of his family, his children, and the future of humanity.

But such does not seem to be the case. COINTELPRO agents - whether human or cosmic - choose their Useful Idiots well.

So again I say: who needs aliens when we have pathologicals who know the human psyche so well that they can get the walking wounded to do their dirty work for them, all the while thinking that they are being "good" and "righteous."

System
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2010-05-01T16:45:42Z

Refund Entitlement

Refund Entitlement

I think Duncan Roads exhibits all the qualities of an overly entitled tech empowered brat with his submissions to these threads examining his dubious associations and indiscrete professional conduct. It's like some modern complex of the information age amidst this technologically empowered industrial strength society. Maybe we could call it the "Enron Smartest Guys In The Room (Madoff by Goldman Sachs)" complex. The Ayn Rand worshipful "guy with the most blindly consumptive naturally selective black-hole power wins!" kind of attitude that gets you places. In classic tech-jacked "Editor" form, Roads demonstrates "it's all spin" to them and if the circumstances don't suit the STS then its a matter of spinning it all away.

But the facts here cannot be so easily spun. When presented with the evidence MMS aka "chlorinated water" can be a personal treatment on a par with chemo-therapy, Roads' reply only offers subjective assertion - "it works, period." - framed in disparaging curses and denouncements. If MMS does work, it sounds like a perfectly reasonable homeopathic concoction that Roads could more conveniently provide simple instructions on how to add drops of chlorine to water rather than hyping a Bishop of a dubious church (especially when Roads is so proud to declare no affiliation with any religious or spiritual organization). That would be if Roads were actually in pursuit of revealing truth and raising awareness.

Additionally ...
- Laura "In all fairness" quote -
You would think that, as a self-proclaimed "independent thinker" and "bad-ass" type of guy from Oz... "that's just how I am..." that he would be highly incensed to really realize how cunningly he has been played; and to the detriment of his family, his children, and the future of humanity.
- end quote -
But rather than the qualities of liberated confidence in a life path committed to truth, Roads and the Nexus advocates posting here provide no cogent facts or clear research on the matter at hand and instead resort to scornful sniping and pushing further questionable resources. If they're not consciously participating in a COINTEL agenda the mode of irresponsible arrogance they're operating in certainly seems open for business.

As it stands Roads behavior demonstrates all the markings of a whipped subordinate out to prove he can make things right by spinning it all away. However after all his subjective assertion, denigrating insults, and spam, he even stoops to attempting to frame Ark with COINTEL insinuation! These actions demonstrate preparedness to stoop to psychopathic means indicating thorough ponerization. If that's all the substance he can offer and I had paid a registration fee for that conference I'd feel "entitled" to my refund.

Now what would Don Juan tell Castaneda about that? What can of 'Adventure' would this class have if not for such petty devils to dance with? How would we learn?

Look at all the emotional baggage expressed above by all involved and tell me how else the lessons are learnt and so effectively. You don't throw the baby out with the bath water. The mother cat is supposed to bring the mouse in for her kittens to practice on, so they can 'fish' for themselves in the much larger sea of life that awaits them outside the classroom.

Good thing Laura attracts them like moths to a flame, for the class would be very boring without them. Usually the comments section is like a barren desert that sees no rain. Many wander far and wide to partake in this ballroom and all its little devils/tyrants who simply cannot jump on the dancefloor knowing how to dance or not. Both learn at the same time, how wonderfully efficient isn't it?

How did your 'teacher' put it? A: Clever if one is deceived. Silly truffle if one is not."

This episode held out so much promise of a frolicking bit of fun as mice for young kittens can be as they learn to 'dance with the devil'... the small ones that is, as the larger ones don't often attend the ball. Too bad. How upsetting. All dressed up and now no where to go, seems the party is over just as it began. Good thing the lesson is bound to return again and soon what with so much emotion desiring a return engagement. Maybe next time the teacher can instruct the students in the right moves for this dance? Even Don Juan's teacher had help didn't he?

Do stir the stew again soon won't you? I barely had a bite of this batch!

System
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2010-05-02T14:20:16Z

Enough moths will smother a flame

Initiating an alternative profile through other channels is likely little problem if they truly had a message they believed in keeping alive, and given the resources in Roads playpen I don't doubt the support of spooks, so I have little empathy for the posters spamming the content and not focusing on the topic at hand when there's such vast consciousness and so little time to work with it.

I appreciate the elucidation of the circumstances a la Castanenda, mama cat, and the dance-floor and will admit a certain questioning I had when the poster was banned, but when the spam started wielding psychopathic means in lying about Ark a line was crossed and Political Ponerology spells out the new rules of engagement of such mind. Enough moths will smother a flame and in this case they actually know it.

How refreshing it is after all this massive dispay of texts and emmotions - albeit for some good reason - to once again balm in the heady forests and visual wonders of the planet.

And to take in my arms and my lap the uncuestionable charms and feelings of my avatarian mistress to alleviate me of the burden that humans chunder upon themselves at anyones expense as long as there is a dollar in it.

What lessons havent been learned here and one owes so much gratitude for the course on the "aggressives" plus various other appreciable gems of wisdom - but what a price and a struggle from the page to the prisons of Malawi....cant say" Oh my God" cant think of a God who could possibly want us.

System
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2010-05-04T18:38:49Z

The perversion of spirituality...

If anyone has not yet read Peter Lavenda's trilogy of books called Sinister Forces now might be a good time to begin reaching into the depths of these 'sinister forces', i.e., David Ferrie, Kennedy assassination, American Orthodox Catholic Church.

In Peter Lavenda's eye-opening trilogy, the Kennedy assassination led him to David Ferrie and this church, to Fred Crisman and Guy Banister (FBI agent there from the very beginning of the UFO flap), Arthur Young, "The Nine", New Age movement, Jim Jones (massacre in Guyana and Andrija Puharich (one of the most enigmatic figures in America's dark secrets).

Personally, what I believe this is all about is that Puharich learned how to tap into "The Nine" and used this to create events that ordinarily would seem like coincidence when in fact, he developed what is called "synchronicity" in events and circumstances.

The Swiss psychoanalyst and philosopher C.G. Jung once commented that Christianity had, in effect, turned the Western world schizoid. The repression of natural instincts has crippled us. Is this what these "wondering bishops" as Peter Lavenda refers to them as, attempting to find, some sort of reality in a world gone totally mad using intense psychological warfare?

The connections to aliens and demons cannot be dismissed as a lot of this experimentation came out of Randolf Air Force Base where Nazis continued their 'medicine' under Operation Paperclip. America did not win WWII.

Religious sentiment, psychological warfare, UFOs, CIA mind bending powerful drugs, a church with wondering bishops and the result is reaching spirituality in a very perverse way. The 'reality' around us, whatever we think it is, is not what it actually is. It has been placed here for us to 'believe' in.

It looks like Jim Humble is having strange religious ideas. Perhaps the word "strange" is redundant in that sentence. I'm sincerely curious how that proves some prisoners in Malawi didn't get well by taking MMS. Does anyone have actual proof?

you were "sincerely serious", you would go and search for the "actual proof" yourself. When a man makes fantastic claims about a "miracle cure", the onus is on HIM to show the proof. But he won't. And the obvious reason for that is because there is none.

System
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2010-08-17T03:28:39Z

TIME TO WAKE UP PEOPLE......

IF HE STARTED PROVING THIS STUFF IS DOING WHAT IT REALLY DOES, THEY WOULD REALLY FIND HIM AND KILL HIM. THE FDA IS NOT A JOKE, THEY DON'T APPROVE CURES THEY ONLY APPROVE SYMPTOM SUPRESSORS. I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW ME AND MY WHOLE FAMILY HAS CURED OUR COLDS IN ONE DAY WITH MMS AND IF THE COLD IS REAL STRONG YOU JUST CONTINUE TO DO IT UNTIL THE COLD IS GONE NO SIDE AFFECTS WHEN TAKEN PROPERLY, THE BIBLE SAYS THE BEGINNING OF WISDOM IS GET WISDOM, AND WITH ALL YOUR GETTING GET UNDERSTANDING[PROVERBS 4:7]. BLESSINGS TO ALL IN YAHUSHUAH'S SET-APART NAME. OH IF YOU WANT TO BE SAFE WHEN TIMES GET REAL TOUGH SCRIPTURE MAKES IT CLEAR TO RUN TO YAHUAH'S NAME...Pro 18:10 The Name of יהוה is a strong tower; The righteous run into it and are SAFE. HMMM