I think it's another good idea. It can't compete with the "surfgate" which enables a side to side transfer, which personally, I think is stupid. I don't want to drive around with the boat fully loaded just so I can switch regular to goofy in a few seconds. Plus with no "list" to the boat it makes it a tank to turn around to pick up a downed surfer.

I guess that depends on how you turn while sufing. When the rider falls do you a) stop completely and turn the boat with throttle b) instantly power-turn the boat c) pull the throttle back, crank the wheel opposite of the surf wave and let the boat turn itself around. I choose "c". All the time. A heavily weighted boat without list (at least the ones I've test drove) do not like to turn without the throttle. I do agree, evenly weighted boats turn better under power but that's not how I prefer to drive for surfing.

jk. "C". couldnt this been done while evenly weighted witha bit of effort. i have to list my boat to the rub rail or past thus makeing it less safe to drive, more unnerving for my wife to drive, and more susceptable to taking water over the side. to each his own.

I mentioned this in the wakeboarding section. Seems like a good idea for the hard core surfer. I don't see the masses going for it. In my opinion less than 5 or 10 percent of potential inboard boat buyers really care that much about the perfect shaped and clean surf wake. In my opinion surfgate appeals to 90% of the potential buyers and this appeals to about 10%. The nice thing is it sounds like it can be added after the fact. Any ide aon price? I am guessing around a grand?

I would guess 90% of Malibu owners don't surf. Tige owners are probably in the 60 to 70 % range as far as surfing.

That was about one of the dumbest things I've heard. Who wouldn't want to switch side to side? Surfgate really opens up possibilities and taking the sport to a new level. case and pointhttp://youtu.be/47cY8U85GW4

I spent 2 full days on a surf gate equipped boat taking lessons with Doum Lagace. Had 2 of us that surf regular and 1 that surfs goofy. The boat produced a very serviceable wave and switching from side-to-side was as easy as advertised. The boat needed more than stock ballast, especially in the bow and that would be my biggest complaint. The only way I saw to get that easily accomplished was to throw a bag on the seats.

I think the Malibu sales guys are going to do well at the upcoming boat shows.

Ballast will always help, but the ability to drive a boat without the hard lean is the idea. I think you'd find more people who feels it is easier to drive an evenly weighted boat vs a boat with a rub rail to the water. Plus going side to side gives the sport a boost for new tricks to come

That was about one of the dumbest things I've heard. Who wouldn't want to switch side to side? Surfgate really opens up possibilities and taking the sport to a new level. case and pointhttp://youtu.be/47cY8U85GW4

That was a childish response.Now take off that dress and act like a grown man! What does the percentage of owners that surf have to do with surfing on both sides?

There are probably more malibu's in my state, than any other brand of wake boat. Now days, just about any vdrive boat you pass around here has a surf or skim board in the rack. Our friend must have pulled these numbers out of his @$$ . As for the new Tige wave shaping device, congrats! Anything to make a better wave is great. Although , I wonder why this boat was hyped to be the best wake surf boat out there, and they had to come up with this to get rid of the prop wash and smooth the transition out.

I just got back from the polar bear which by the way was an awesome event. All I can say is it works and it works really well. Roberts Z3 has the longest cleanest wave I have been on to date. I have surfed a lot of boats and so far the Z3 with the BGB tops my list of best waves

Does not matter if its a Tgiger Malibruiser Ski Naked Centipede Supreme Pizza or John's Boat all that matters is the wave.......boats for wake surfers are nothing more than wave machines. Different boats are different breaks.

Where did you come up with 90% of bu owners don't surf? based on the statement that surfgate would apply to 90% of potential buyers. Surfgate definitely promotes surfing both sides. Whether you have never ridden backside or not, at some point with surfgate, your going to want to try crossing on the fly.

And yes different boats make different breaks, but which wave is going to elevate the sport the most? May not be the cleanest wave, but the one that offers more possibilities for new tricks

Where did you come up with 90% of bu owners don't surf? based on the statement that surfgate would apply to 90% of potential buyers. Surfgate definitely promotes surfing both sides. Whether you have never ridden backside or not, at some point with surfgate, your going to want to try crossing on the fly.

And yes different boats make different breaks, but which wave is going to elevate the sport the most? May not be the cleanest wave, but the one that offers more possibilities for new tricks

So your saying a longer cleaner wave will not open the door for new tricks? Be careful what you say will be used against you!

That's not what was said at all. But I guess time will tell when videos like the one above start showing more tricks thrown going side to side vs those that are developed purely on one side of the wake

i would bet more people surf than wakeboard, now hear me out. I still wakeboard, but the 11 or so people that come out every weekend on my boat all surf(including the girls) but do not wakeboard. So while we all are getting older, more and more of my friends (we are all in our later 30's early 40's) that have wakeboats are trading there boats in for more surf oriented boats. I had bu's until 09 and now am on my second enzo ( new 244) its not that wakeboarding in going out, its just not fun unless you are pushing and that means crashing, and its not worth it. So if we add up the recreational wakeboard boater( prob 90%) they will get to a point where the injury list pushes them into a different activity but still keeps them boating. Unless some medical breakthrough eliminates knee injury, i see more people surfing

Does not matter if its a Tgiger Malibruiser Ski Naked Centipede Supreme Pizza or John's Boat all that matters is the wave.......boats for wake surfers are nothing more than wave machines. Different boats are different breaks.

WAVE MACHINE!!!!!.. Its not what boat works the best its what boat works the best for you!.. no matter what you are riding behind you are promoting the sport in a positive way. Keep shredding your face's off.!!