Cagey B:rohar: Yeah, about that. Ukraine is second only to the US in production of amazingly accurate anti aircraft systems. Hell, even Russia buys them. The Chechens, not so much.

I see. Passing out sophisticated anti-aircraft weaponry from Kiev's infinite stockpile of such weapons to random Ukrainians, in order to fight some sort of guerrilla war against conventional Russian forces, makes total sense now.

I'm not that sure, we got our dicks in a pretty solid knot when they sold that same hardware to Iran 2 years ago. Hardly random or guerilla. On this subject, they're state of the farking art.

HotWingAgenda:thetrenchcoat: HotWingAgenda: RT is run by the Kremlin, so I'll wait for independent confirmation on this.

From the BBC: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26410431#TWEET1059881

OK. So, a comparative analysis of the objective international report and the state-run Russian news shows that one jackass declared his allegiance to another nation, was fired and is facing charges, and has no authority over any vessel bigger than the rubber ducky in his bathtub.

WhoopAssWayne:Putin humiliated Obama during the Syrian Crisis, owned him. That failure means we can't intervene in Crimea or Ukraine. Putin can do what he wants.

I assume you are referring to when Assad pledged to give up his chemical weapon stockpiles for destruction under the watch of the international community. Yup. Totally pwnd Obama by getting rid of the primary target of the military strikes and prevented the.S. from blowing millions in guided munitions and stepping into another Middle East quagmire.

thehobbes:WhoopAssWayne: Putin humiliated Obama during the Syrian Crisis, owned him. That failure means we can't intervene in Crimea or Ukraine. Putin can do what he wants.

I assume you are referring to when Assad pledged to give up his chemical weapon stockpiles for destruction under the watch of the international community. Yup. Totally pwnd Obama by getting rid of the primary target of the military strikes and prevented the.S. from blowing millions in guided munitions and stepping into another Middle East quagmire.

Hey, someone's got to cheer for the Russian totalitarian and against the elected POTUS. I'm just glad the GOP has found a proper role for the party out of power.

WhoopAssWayne:ongbok: That is an interesting alternate reality you live in.

That Obama pushed for a Syrian war, over and over, and the world and country stood up and shouted that dumbass down? That is the world *we* live in.

Republicans and "patriots" are aiding and abetting Putin, Assad, etc, in committing war crimes and genocide just so they can score tiny amounts of points against Obama on the sunday talkshows. But they got Jesus on their side, so that's alright.

LordJiro:The deal was that the chemical weapons, and the equipment for making them, were to be destroyed, under the UN's supervision. Nice try, liar.

Putin was behind that deal. Obama folded liked a cheap suit, hid under his desk, and pissed in his pants. Putin made that happen. That's why we have so little international standing now. Obama's failure as a leader at any level.

WhoopAssWayne:LordJiro: The deal was that the chemical weapons, and the equipment for making them, were to be destroyed, under the UN's supervision. Nice try, liar.

Putin was behind that deal. Obama folded liked a cheap suit, hid under his desk, and pissed in his pants. Putin made that happen. That's why we have so little international standing now. Obama's failure as a leader at any level.

you mean when obama threatened a strike unless action was taken to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles, which led to a plan to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles?

WhoopAssWayne:LordJiro: The deal was that the chemical weapons, and the equipment for making them, were to be destroyed, under the UN's supervision. Nice try, liar.

Putin was behind that deal. Obama folded liked a cheap suit, hid under his desk, and pissed in his pants. Putin made that happen. That's why we have so little international standing now. Obama's failure as a leader at any level.

Yes, I'm sure Putin was just jumping for joy at the prospect of having a close ally disarm themselves under UN supervision.

WhoopAssWayne:LordJiro: The deal was that the chemical weapons, and the equipment for making them, were to be destroyed, under the UN's supervision. Nice try, liar.

Putin was behind that deal. Obama folded liked a cheap suit, hid under his desk, and pissed in his pants. Putin made that happen. That's why we have so little international standing now. Obama's failure as a leader at any level.

Getting us out of a 10 year oil war in Iraq and out of Afghanistan is the kind of failure I like. He's also finally trying jihadists in the US justice system and not in military tribunals--another failure I appreciate. He managed to get Congress to pass serious healthcare reform. Again, another failure in leadership I like.

We need more failures like Obama. And not any more great leaders like Bush and Cheney.

21-7-b:WhoopAssWayne: LordJiro: The deal was that the chemical weapons, and the equipment for making them, were to be destroyed, under the UN's supervision. Nice try, liar.

Putin was behind that deal. Obama folded liked a cheap suit, hid under his desk, and pissed in his pants. Putin made that happen. That's why we have so little international standing now. Obama's failure as a leader at any level.

you mean when obama threatened a strike unless action was taken to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles, which led to a plan to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles?

No. That was Putin that threatened a strike while Obama hid in a closet in the Oval office curled up in a fetal position and crying.

This is the reality that he lives in. I bet he even believes that Obama didn't order the operation that killed Bin Laden. He probably believes that it was the military that seized power from Obama and ordered the raid because Obama wouldn't do it.

lelio:Having not kept up on this is saying that you support the people of Crimea a pro Ukraine or pro Russia statement? It sounds like half the people in that area identify as Russian.

Or is Crimea trying to angle for an independent state status inside of Russia? Good luck with that.

Course he could just be hedging his bets and can say later on that Ukraine or Russia betrayed the Crimean people yada yada.

It's complicated.

Crimea is already an autonomous region within Ukraine with its own PM and everything and the majority of its population is Russian, however, it still relies on Ukraine for resources, defense, etc. It could not survive as a totally independent state. Russia has military bases within Crimea including a major naval base and a standing forces agreement regarding those bases. Russia's stance is that its recent asset activity is within the bounds of that agreement.

ongbok:21-7-b: WhoopAssWayne: LordJiro: The deal was that the chemical weapons, and the equipment for making them, were to be destroyed, under the UN's supervision. Nice try, liar.

Putin was behind that deal. Obama folded liked a cheap suit, hid under his desk, and pissed in his pants. Putin made that happen. That's why we have so little international standing now. Obama's failure as a leader at any level.

you mean when obama threatened a strike unless action was taken to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles, which led to a plan to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles?

No. That was Putin that threatened a strike while Obama hid in a closet in the Oval office curled up in a fetal position and crying.

This is the reality that he lives in. I bet he even believes that Obama didn't order the operation that killed Bin Laden. He probably believes that it was the military that seized power from Obama and ordered the raid because Obama wouldn't do it.

WhoopAssWayne:TheShavingofOccam123: Getting us out of a 10 year oil war in Iraq and out of Afghanistan is the kind of failure I like.

He said he was going to do that 6 months into his first term, or would you like to deny that?

I woke up in Nov 2008, when Obama won, and thought "We're going to be ok, he'll get us out of this mess"

Here we are today.

Well, you didn't listen to the man when he was running for his first term.

He very clearly said he would withdraw troops from Iraq--which he did--and move them into Afghanistan--which he did. He said he was going to shut down Gitmo then Congress--in the middle of two wars--attached an amendment to the defense spending bill that forbade the president from shutting down Gitmo and from moving prisoners onto US soil.

I'm glad George Bush didn't get to privatize Social Security. Imagine--after Enron and after a 10 year oil war fought on the backs of volunteers who joined because they were told they were going to hunt down OBL--what Bush-Cheney would have done to SS during the financial meltdown.

21-7-b:ongbok: 21-7-b: WhoopAssWayne: LordJiro: The deal was that the chemical weapons, and the equipment for making them, were to be destroyed, under the UN's supervision. Nice try, liar.

Putin was behind that deal. Obama folded liked a cheap suit, hid under his desk, and pissed in his pants. Putin made that happen. That's why we have so little international standing now. Obama's failure as a leader at any level.

you mean when obama threatened a strike unless action was taken to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles, which led to a plan to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles?

No. That was Putin that threatened a strike while Obama hid in a closet in the Oval office curled up in a fetal position and crying.

This is the reality that he lives in. I bet he even believes that Obama didn't order the operation that killed Bin Laden. He probably believes that it was the military that seized power from Obama and ordered the raid because Obama wouldn't do it.

it's hard to believe, but i think he thinks he's funny.

I don't know. The stuff he is saying is almost word for word with I here from other derpers. It is like they all subscribe to the same newsgroups and mailing list

ongbok:21-7-b: ongbok: 21-7-b: WhoopAssWayne: LordJiro: The deal was that the chemical weapons, and the equipment for making them, were to be destroyed, under the UN's supervision. Nice try, liar.

Putin was behind that deal. Obama folded liked a cheap suit, hid under his desk, and pissed in his pants. Putin made that happen. That's why we have so little international standing now. Obama's failure as a leader at any level.

you mean when obama threatened a strike unless action was taken to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles, which led to a plan to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles?

No. That was Putin that threatened a strike while Obama hid in a closet in the Oval office curled up in a fetal position and crying.

This is the reality that he lives in. I bet he even believes that Obama didn't order the operation that killed Bin Laden. He probably believes that it was the military that seized power from Obama and ordered the raid because Obama wouldn't do it.

it's hard to believe, but i think he thinks he's funny.

I don't know. The stuff he is saying is almost word for word with I here from other derpers. It is like they all subscribe to the same newsgroups and mailing list

i know, but if you look through his oeuvre you can see how desperate he is

21-7-b:ongbok: 21-7-b: ongbok: 21-7-b: WhoopAssWayne: LordJiro: The deal was that the chemical weapons, and the equipment for making them, were to be destroyed, under the UN's supervision. Nice try, liar.

Putin was behind that deal. Obama folded liked a cheap suit, hid under his desk, and pissed in his pants. Putin made that happen. That's why we have so little international standing now. Obama's failure as a leader at any level.

you mean when obama threatened a strike unless action was taken to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles, which led to a plan to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles?

No. That was Putin that threatened a strike while Obama hid in a closet in the Oval office curled up in a fetal position and crying.

This is the reality that he lives in. I bet he even believes that Obama didn't order the operation that killed Bin Laden. He probably believes that it was the military that seized power from Obama and ordered the raid because Obama wouldn't do it.

it's hard to believe, but i think he thinks he's funny.

I don't know. The stuff he is saying is almost word for word with I here from other derpers. It is like they all subscribe to the same newsgroups and mailing list i know, but if you look through his oeuvre you can see how desperate he is

Don't they always get desperate and start with the goalpost moving once you hit them with facts? I wouldn't be surprised if he started reporting people to the mods for harassment.

RanDomino:TheShavingofOccam123He very clearly said he would withdraw troops from Iraq--which he did

Maliki refused to grant US troops immunity.

Maliki said that in 2011. Obama ran for office in 2007.

He did withdraw troops from Iraq and sent them into Afghanistan, as he said he would in his campaign. He didn't believe fighting a 10 year oil war in a country that had nothing to do with the 9-11 attacks would lessen the chances of any further terror attack coming out of Afghanistan.

HotWingAgenda:thetrenchcoat: HotWingAgenda: RT is run by the Kremlin, so I'll wait for independent confirmation on this.

From the BBC: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26410431#TWEET1059881

OK. So, a comparative analysis of the objective international report and the state-run Russian news shows that one jackass declared his allegiance to another nation, was fired and is facing charges, and has no authority over any vessel bigger than the rubber ducky in his bathtub.

ongbok:21-7-b: ongbok: 21-7-b: ongbok: 21-7-b: WhoopAssWayne: LordJiro: The deal was that the chemical weapons, and the equipment for making them, were to be destroyed, under the UN's supervision. Nice try, liar.

Putin was behind that deal. Obama folded liked a cheap suit, hid under his desk, and pissed in his pants. Putin made that happen. That's why we have so little international standing now. Obama's failure as a leader at any level.

you mean when obama threatened a strike unless action was taken to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles, which led to a plan to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles?

No. That was Putin that threatened a strike while Obama hid in a closet in the Oval office curled up in a fetal position and crying.

This is the reality that he lives in. I bet he even believes that Obama didn't order the operation that killed Bin Laden. He probably believes that it was the military that seized power from Obama and ordered the raid because Obama wouldn't do it.

it's hard to believe, but i think he thinks he's funny.

I don't know. The stuff he is saying is almost word for word with I here from other derpers. It is like they all subscribe to the same newsgroups and mailing list i know, but if you look through his oeuvre you can see how desperate he is

Don't they always get desperate and start with the goalpost moving once you hit them with facts? I wouldn't be surprised if he started reporting people to the mods for harassment.

i think he starts off with the idea that he can wind people up with what he sees as his rapier-like wit. once that fails it seems we must face pig-like squealing

WhoopAssWayne:Putin will do what he wants. He baited, then humiliated Obama during the Syrian crisis. Obama was baited into going all in - only to find out he had no international support whatsoever. The rest of the world, led by Putin, just laughed their ass off. An embarrassment for Obama, humiliating for our position in the world. Obama will sit this one out.