We've asked / discussed with Julian what you're asking about and I don't think any of us have a problem adopting the ELCO name and keeping a mailing list going for those who can't live without it but it's up to Julian what he does with ELCO not us. TBH I think he's got cold feet about stepping back from ELCO and that's the real issue which is only natural.

I put it like this Matt - Adding European in front of Land Cruiser Club is sensible, changing Club to Owners is no big deal either, what does it say now I'm not saying there's not some reluctance to lose the shiney new name but I think from this side of negotiations everyone is being very pragmatic and just looking for what will be the best outcome for cruiser heads That's just my interpretation of where things stand at the moment Matt and I am just one voice ... AFAIK this IS a club and anyone who wants to get involved is more than welcome. Do you have Julians phone number?

Its not currently a forum but there is a discussion on the future of ELCO. I personally think its a great idea to merge the 2 and keep the ELCO name.

BTW what happened to the Toyota badge on the 'logo'?

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That's two of us wanting to keep ELCO alive, also for me with Julian taking an equal role in the new joint club.

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Works for me too. I have been a member of ELCO for a while but don't understand all the plain text stuff so don't post too often. There are a lot of good people there with loads of knowlege.
I would like to see the merger, and also see some more of the ELCO folk on here but it seems a lot of them are not interested in forums. I know they are chatting about programming things at the moment. It's all over my head but I hope a solution to please all is found.

makes sense to merge the two- the idea of turning ELCO into a forum has been floated a few times over the past- and lets be honest alot of the ELCO regulars are now here so it sort of makes sense to combine.

Best to do it at the start- and hopefully people will realise the benefits to all of this site become "ELCO" and gaining from the valuable posts that ELCO has had over the past few years. If needs be can help process data to make it "forum" compatible if it helps.

Tying forums together always strikes me as a good idea- i run a all-makes forum (for people who compete and greenlane- plus a bit of expeditions), and pointing people here for Toyota Tech would be just dandy! (for that matter- who's the MOD/Admin here to ping a pm to?)

Yes a combined force makes so much sense. ELCO has been running a long time, has a wealth of knowledge and a good name amongst those in the know. Plus Julian also has a wealth of knowledge and a great spanner man to boot.

I think what the LC community in the UK has lacked is something of the like of IH8MUD in the US. Yes they have been going a long time and also have a far wider audience, however what they have is many fold.

What we need is a site that combines the best of what is available on ELCO - the tight knit community, the knowledge and what is available on here which is a new approach, a lot of enthusiasm and also a lot of people with loads of knowledge.

Put that together in a package that has the following:

A great Forum
Technical Articles
A Gallery
Videos
A good set of links
A good set of affiliates - companies offering deals and support

Add to this what seems to be a great attitude that is here - no bitching about ebay, other sites in signatures, flexibility and also the attitude that we are all adults so can take the odd bit of ribbing, but deliberate flaming and insulting is out of order and you have the makings of a first class site.

The forum is already off to a great start, lots of posts, lots of interest, lots of enthusiasm.

I think that there must be some way of accomodating the name, how about a combination of the two names (and have a strap line that says - incorporating the *****

My suggestion for a start

ELCC - European Land Cruiser Club. Got bits of both.

Just to add, for anyone who feels they need to post some pictures and link them back to here rather than post on photobucket or one of the other more general photo sites, I have built a temporary gallery for this site on my web space until something else comes along.