Yeah, although I haven't met any yet.....there are a few RP posters in scattered yards in Greencastle, IN (about 8 miles away)......but none around here. Maybe I should go there and knock on their door to talk to them...

This is true. Consider Roy's favorite example: Hong Kong. The regime became so corrupt it necessitate the creation of the Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) in 1974.

Nope. Flat wrong. HK was and remains an island of clean government with only a single rival in all of East Asia: Singapore -- where the government not coincidentally aggressively nationalized land in the 1960s and now owns 70% of it. HK only became corrupt in the 50s, 60s and 70s because of the huge influx of refugees from the PRC, many of whom were already corrupt and found life too risky in the PRC, especially with the Cultural Revolution going on. And HK was also only corrupt by comparison with the standards of the UK, which has been one of the least corrupt countries in the world for centuries.

But what has public ownership of land wrought in HK since then? Why, looka here: YOUR OWN SOURCE confirms that PUBLIC OWNERSHIP OF LAND has DEFEATED corruption, even despite the handover to the PRC in 1997:

Transparency International now ranks Hong Kong among the least corrupt places in the world, ahead of countries like the United Kingdom, Japan, and the United States.

This is an almost miraculous achievement against corruption, and it destroys you comprehensively, conclusively, utterly and permanently. Every time you try to slag LVT, you only prove you have to be grotesquely dishonest to do it.

After this, this police and government made every attempt to overthrow the ICAC, and eventually did.

Flat wrong.

They required British intervention to even begin to get reforms going (the head of the ICAC answered to the British Prime Minister). (1)

Daydreams of a "successful" LVT regime (if the end goal is true justice and maximum freedom) will always be just daydreams.

But they should continue to pocket its publicly created value, paid for by other people's taxes? Uh-huh.

Somehow, I kinda figured it'd be something like that...

Abolish ALL property taxes, that includes LVT.

As land and capital are legally property, that leaves taxes on... labor. What a shocker!

Rarely has the argument for greed, privilege and injustice been articulated so baldly.

Either that or be philosophically consistent and advocate an AVT (air value tax).

As air is just a different kind of land (another natural resource men have a right to use, and need to use in order to live) I would advocate an air value tax... if air had any market value. Whereas if greedy, evil filth started privatizing the air, found a way to "homestead" it and fence it off, started charging you rent for air to breathe, then you would feel blessed by the joys of capitalism!

...if greedy, evil filth started privatizing the air, found a way to "homestead" it and fence it off, started charging you rent for air to breathe, then you would feel blessed by the joys of capitalism!

You mean as opposed to finding a way to "homestead" it, fence it ALL off on behalf of the state, which then forever charged you rent for air to breathe, then you would feel blessed by the joys of communism!

As air is just a different kind of land (another natural resource men have a right to use, and need to use in order to live) I would advocate an air value tax... if air had any market value. Whereas if greedy, evil filth started privatizing the air, found a way to "homestead" it and fence it off, started charging you rent for air to breathe, then you would feel blessed by the joys of capitalism!

Now, don't you feel as stupid as a bag of hammers?

Air is super abundant and its value is 0. Only air space is finite. Don't want a claim on airspace? Good luck defending yourself when foreigners decide to use your airspace to drop bombs on you.

You don't want a claim on the air where you live? Okay, seal it off and I'll make sure to send all my various air pollution your way, and throw in some mustard gas for good measure. Enjoy your air!

You mean as opposed to finding a way to "homestead" it, fence it ALL off on behalf of the state, which then forever charged you rent for air to breathe, then you would feel blessed by the joys of communism!

If you were the stupidest person on earth, you still would not be so stupid that you wouldn't know:

1) Government in fact ALREADY DOES administer use of air so that the rights of all to breathe it are secured, and
2) Not being evil, greedy filth as private airlords would indisputably be, it in fact doesn't charge anyone any rent for air to breathe.

So, stupidity cannot be the cause of your absurd, fallacious and grotesque nonsense. Only dishonesty can produce such completely outrageous garbage.

Don't you understand what it means when I always prove your "arguments" are stupid, fallacious, absurd, dishonest, and stupid?

Now, don't you feel as stupid as a bag of all hammers in existence?

No, right about now I am feeling infinitely more intelligent, as well as infinitely more knowledgeable and honest, than you.

If you were the stupidest person on earth, you still would not be so stupid that you wouldn't know:

1) Government in fact ALREADY DOES administer use of air so that the rights of all to breathe it are secured, and
2) Not being evil, greedy filth as private airlords would indisputably be, it in fact doesn't charge anyone any rent for air to breathe.

So, stupidity cannot be the cause of your absurd, fallacious and grotesque nonsense. Only dishonesty can produce such completely outrageous garbage.

Don't you understand what it means when I always prove your "arguments" are stupid, fallacious, absurd, dishonest, and stupid?

No, right about now I am feeling infinitely more intelligent, as well as infinitely more knowledgeable and honest, than you.

1) Government does not "administer use of air". That's silliness on your part, like a Saint Bernard bitch who winces from a flea bite and you, the chihuahua on the stool that is humping her from behind, says, "Oh, I'm sorry, did I hurt you honey?" Government attempts to govern and regulate localized air usage (factories, autos, etc.,), but it does not, and cannot, collectivize the air, nor does it "administer use of air". That's upside down and backwards crank talk right there.

2) Merely saying thing like, "...evil, greedy filth...private...stupidity...absurd, fallacious and grotesque nonsense...dishonesty...completely outrageous garbage...stupid, fallacious, absurd, dishonest, and stupid..." is evidence to me of nausea and stomach pains on your part, but it does not make you "...infinitely more intelligent, as well as infinitely more knowledgeable and honest..." Then again, you didn't claim that, did you? You said it had you ""right now feeling" that way. I don't think that's true, but it is at least consistent with all your prior delusions of intelligence and honesty.

Actually, it would legitimize them, making it incredibly easy for them to operate, and on the grandest scale imaginable. LVT would do for land what the Fed did for currency. Instead of Mafia, you just say "State". Oh, and just like the Mafia, they'll know which palms to grease, what needs to be "given back" to key parts of da community. No free lunch, you don't slop from the public trough without making sure that enough voting little piggies get their turn at all that "reclaimed" wealth. And most can be bought for a song.

Here's more proof just how wrong you always have to be when you stupidly and dishonestly slag LVT: