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Topic: GM crops might be the cause??? (Read 15030 times)

hehehehehe, that ain't me, it some poor sole that picture I found on the net, I wouldn't put that on my head if I had to ;) , about the only thing I put on my head is a pumpkin head the morning after :-P

Just sometimes we agree to disagree, its nothing personal. :cheer:

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THAT's ME TO THE LEFT JUST 5 YEARS FROM NOW!!!!!!!!

Never be afraid to try something new. Amateurs built the ark, Professionals built the Titanic

I have NO respect for researchers that start a conversation or dialog with "If you do not believe what I say....you must be blind or deaf".

Sounds like kooks from a tree hugging club that have a set agenda, and with information that I am skeptical from the start, in regards to their professionalism, approach, and attitude of others.

It's not at all clear that the researchers said any such thing ... more likely, it was the description from bloggers or who ever described the research. The link goes to something that is only in Italian (which I don't speak), so I can't say for sure.

You got to be kidding me. The GM people are doing all they can do to line their pockets with gold. They are not much different than our elected officials who are helping them at the costs of the people in hard times.

People are becoming educated and that scares the heck out of the GM people because they could loose their gold lined pockets if the masses do an about face.

yes, "profit" is such a nasty word. things should be developed and given to the world as an act of human kindness.

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Austrian scientists concluded that GM crops cause infertility....they were feeding mouses. For humans we don't know yet but we will in couple of decades....

Maybe that is the whole point with the corn,population control![/quote]

I'm sure that is part of it since the globalists say we are "useless feeders" and have documented their thoughts on reducing the population. As far as the bees and any other insects go, it is no secret that on of the documented advantages in their opinion to these GMO crops is the built in pesticides.

I can't say, but maybe I should ask, if all the corn around me is Bt corn, but last I heard, no one in Nebraska had reported CCD and we certainly have a lot of corn. All my bees are in the middle of corn.

The other issue of Bt is that I've been spraying actual Bt (rather than the gene that they spliced into the corn that makes the toxin) for many years on combs for wax moths with no ill effects that I can see. So Bt toxin seems to be a doubtful cause of CCD. I'm not saying I think GMO is a wise thing to do, I don't. But I don't think it's the cause of CCD, at least not from the corn.

The neonics seem like a more likely issue. Again, I'm sure it's being used here as well as other places so that might weigh against that theory... but I can't remember the last time I saw dew here... we just don't get dew here often. It takes a particular set of circumstances that doesn't seem to happen often in the summer. So perhaps it's a combination of the neonics and the dew, or a combination of all of that plus other things...

A bee colony is a very complex thing and the world is even more complex...

I am having trouble with the whole "life expectancy" thing and the "30 years" thing. We weren't doing genetic engineering 30 years ago, and in the last 30 I don't see a significant change in life expectancy...

Now if you are comparing selective breeding with GMO and lumping them together, I think you're comparing boxing gloves with hand grenades.