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Strong ideas tbh, i'm unsure about the slam one tbh i'd like to move away from procs and maybe throw in bladestorm baseline but i'm unsure tbh. Thing is so many changes even if they are good can shift the balance of a season so much.

Well its not adding any procs, just replacing the CS proc with a free slam, either off the GCD or 100% crit would be a good idea, imo. And the avatar change wouldnt change anything, just smaller CD(which almost everyone agrees) and less duration, cut it to 12s from 24, and make it 1.5m cd.

Edit: remember the old slam proc from fury I think it was? That was nice, so its not really creating anything we havent seen before

I'm sad that you didnt bring up the fact that Warriors are no longer fun to play. What should be changed to make the class fun again? You didnt ask barburas what he'd like with the class to start playing again, same with hoodrych. Hoodrych said only that his Monk does everything a warrior does but smoother and better.

Obviously not a lot of people enjoy playing their warrior right now, and its not only because the class is one of the worst in the game atm. But because your having a bad time playing it. IMO

I think that our way of dealing damage is too straight forward, reword our MS. either buff it to a point where it's largely noticable for a healer to heal a MS'ed target, or reword it somehow. Csmash is indeed stupid as fuck. You can't point out enough flaws about warriors, there's too many. Warriors suck.

Edit: Also dissapointed with Braindances' WWII mic

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But look how fucking dumb it was like, a bot could Drain Mana just like a bot could play Hunter ATM.

I'm sad that you didnt bring up the fact that Warriors are no longer fun to play. What should be changed to make the class fun again? You didnt ask barburas what he'd like with the class to start playing again, same with hoodrych. Hoodrych said only that his Monk does everything a warrior does but smoother and better.

Obviously not a lot of people enjoy playing their warrior right now, and its not only because the class is one of the worst in the game atm. But because your having a bad time playing it. IMO

I think that our way of dealing damage is too straight forward, reword our MS. either buff it to a point where it's largely noticable for a healer to heal a MS'ed target, or reword it somehow. Csmash is indeed stupid as fuck. You can't point out enough flaws about warriors, there's too many. Warriors suck.

Edit: Also dissapointed with Braindances' WWII mic

maybe if we complain enough that will fix it

seriously stop posting crybaby we have enough tears around here to fill a lake

Great ideas. The thing I hate about the nerfs... is that they weren't small changes. These were HUGE changes... and now it seems they are very slowly giving back warriors to what they started with at the beginning of the expansion. And if this is really the case... I think we should get our silence on heroic throw back. This will give us a good form of utility other than a fear.

Interesting points they made that caught my attention was..

How most of damage is around CS... if its on CD and there is a swap opportunity, then a good chunk of your damage could be lost. I know that's not a easy one to touch on but it made me think.

Another thing is how our some of our abilities actually has a twist positive/negative effects if we were to use them.... such as safeguard to get out of a root or safeguard to save a teammate. (These are both positive effects in their own but the decision on which to select can be negative)

Or how we set up interrupts... such as focus charge... if we were to charge a healer. We have to run back to our target... potentially losing out on sustain damage because of the time spent going back and forth. This one might be debatable...

And shieldwall... we lose a huge chunck of damage when doing so... most melee when they use their shieldwall equivalent are still able to be offensive without losing on damage.

I know this game would be boring if it was homogenized ... but these are things that struck with me.