Broadly speaking, a next-generation RTS that wants to compete with Ashes will have to develop an engine to do it. The Nitrous engine.

PC World investigated this claim earlier this year. You can see their results here. The short version is that having a core neutral GPU engine is very hard to develop and Nitrous is the first and so far only one we know of that has shipped a game that does it (though Frostbite might be there).

So we have the engine.

Step 2: You need the gameplay

The original release of Ashes was an impressive, albeit limited RTS. With a fraction of the budget of Planetary Annihilation and around 1/17th the budget of Supreme Commander, it’s a tough haul to compete. But our plan is long-term. The ugly fact is, the RTS market is small and you can’t spend a huge amount on an RTS up front if it’s new IP.

Escalation was a big step in the right direction for serious RTS players and lets us move the base game into being an introduction to the genre. But we still need a lot of core RTS features:

Replays

A Solid Modding Suite

Lots of UI customization

Lots of power user interactive features

None of that will come quickly. Replays is just about done. Steamworks sharing is almost done. But we’ll talk about the modding in the next section.

Step 3: You need the content

And this is the biggest challenge for us. Content is expensive and we live in an age where someone can just buy Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance for $5 on a Steam sale which has years of added content.

From here to there

First, we have to decide what the ultimate Ashes RTS needs to have. No one will agree on this so I’ll just give you what I think it will have and as always, my opinion is subject to change based on persuasive arguments from players and this is all just my opinion obviously:

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First, yes, it’s totally inappropriate for me to even engage in a public comparison like this.

Second, yes, it’s even dumber to argue that competing games are objectively better than your own game.

Third, many of the weaknesses of a given game are either design choices or budget choices. The relative budgets of each game translate into more green wins.

But I’m still going to do it since I’ve worked closely with the developers of the other games over the years (Stardock was GPG’s publisher, Blizzard’s contracted expansion pack maker for StarCraft: Retribution, and we’re friends with the UberE team).

Let’s break these down into the areas that are on our radar:

Differentiated T3s

As part of a future tech tree update, we will want to let players do a lot of interesting things with the different T3s. We may eventually change the way T3s upgrade where you don’t pick their upgrade when they level up but rather they get a general bonus with their specific coolness chosen at the macro level as techs.

We also have two new T3s per race in development. I’d like to see these out in the Spring time.

The new T3s will be available as a free DLC to existing players.

Differentiated T4s

Ashes currently has no T4s. This will come in the form of Juggernauts with 3 per race. They’re a very late game unit.

Differentiated T5s

We have none of these in development but think “doomsday weapons”

Multiple Paths to victory

Right now we have two. But we would also like to have a turtle based victory path as well where they can build something that slowly spreads across the land.

Easy way to manage mods in game (we have to mess with the directories on the disk ourselves)

Some sort of particle editor (we do this by hand and C++ right now)

A tool that converts FBX files into OXModels (we have a special build of the game that converts them for us)

A UI editor (we currently modify this by hand)

Support for Substance Painter (we currently modify our materials by hand)

A way for designers to modify terrain easily (we currently have to edit files by hand)

All of this is doable. It will just take time and money. So we have to carefully pick what we do first.

Great single player replayability

Ours is good but not exception. Here is what I think we need to do:

Current Ascendancy wars

Future Ascendancy Wars

I think the current Ascendancy Wars button should get renamed to Campaign and Ascendancy Wars call up a map of the galaxy (or at least the Orion sector) with thousands of worlds on it with you versus several AI factions.

Different worlds would give you wealth and you could use that wealth to buy more Quantum Bandwidth that would let you basically set up defenses on worlds so that they are harder to take. Some worlds would unlock skins and other special goodies that would get added to your account.

Great Multiplayer community

Our community is great (the people). There just aren’t enough of them.

One thing we’re going to do in the next couple weeks is release an external tool that will make it easy to see when the queue is busy and let you chat with people from outside the game.

External Singularity Community app

That’s the near-term boost we can do.

The longer-term version will require some more thought.

Replays

These are just about done. We have them internally now though.

Good Economic / Strategic Depth

I think this will require 1 or 2 more resources along with corresponding units along with a tech tree.

Good base building

See above

Interesting technology choices

see above

Long-term replayability overall

That will require a third and 4th race along with additional locomotion units (crawling units, tracked units, etc.).

BTW, gravity channeling units cannot go on water any more than a Star Wars landspeeder could go on water. It would sink.

How you can help

The speed in which we can do all of the above is largely based on how many engineers and artists I can assign to it.

Broadly speaking, I’d love to see us hire 2 full time engineers and then assign 2 of our existing full-time artists just to implement the above.

That’s a $40k per month burn rate. The sales will support this. However, where we need help is in evangelism. Making sure people know about this game and how it’s evolving.

Participating on the forums and telling us what you want to see will help us prioritize.

Just your presence in the community helps. We’re in this for the long-haul (at least until 2022 anyway, then we’ll see where things stand).

"Thats what i mean, i know most players play for SP, but there is only so much game time u can get out of a game, for the amount of work put in. True longevity comes from MP. Yeah mods and stuff are cool, and do definitely add to the experience and draw new players. But ultimately I think mods come from MP(how many people that make mods play them or expose them to SP only?). Same goes for SC. I know its a lazy example but look at DOTA for warcraft "

You have made some valid points but the replayability I have experienced is the combo of mods and a random map generator in a single player mode. You don't need an infinite number of scenarios shipped with the game if they can be manufactured as needed.

Also if a game you love becomes a little stale you walk away from it for awhile and come back when it feels like an old friend you have mistreated with your absence. You can also put artificial restrictions on yourself like I won't rush the AI or I won't build "unit X" because it is OP in an AI game.

You have made some valid points but the replayability I have experienced is the combo of mods and a random map generator in a single player mode. You don't need an infinite number of scenarios shipped with the game if they can be manufactured as needed.

Also if a game you love becomes a little stale you walk away from it for awhile and come back when it feels like an old friend you have mistreated with your absence. You can also put artificial restrictions on yourself like I won't rush the AI or I won't build "unit X" because it is OP in an AI game. backs out of the room slowly...

Yeah thats true, it makes sense. Both of u guys are right. I think it comes pretty close though, since for example Skyrim has 35 000 players online currently.. compared to *drum roll please* 750 000 for DOTA.. So it seems both have their merits..

Its becoming harder to find ranked games lately (thought it would become easier due to the holidays??) so seems like im going to have to resort to playing SP, and applying "aritificial restrictions"

hello Everyone, i love where your taking the game, great things to come.

And creating a Tech Tree will be really awesome, why i am saying that its because i want every game to be different, and i Tech Tree will help a lot.

It will be interesting to have a different way to upgrades T3-T4-T5 units in the Future, by having more options to upgrade and not only 3.

The things that you want to make for the Modding Community to have easier way to create mods, everything that you showed us (UI editor, Painter, Terrain Editor, etc..) are they just ideas or we will get them for sure in Future updates?

I hope you never Stop working on Ashes to make it the best RTS game out there.