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Re: SEC Football Discussion Thread

Originally Posted by RiverRat13

Didn't Dyer already get kicked out of his second school? That's a strange example to use to call "scoreboard".

How is it strange? What is your point?

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Re: SEC Football Discussion Thread

Originally Posted by jojo

How is it strange? What is your point?

That Michael Dyer was such a bad apple that he was kicked out of two schools. I don't see how he is a good example of an SEC team booting a kid that may have been kept on a team in another conference. I don't think he makes it anywhere.

Re: SEC Football Discussion Thread

Originally Posted by RiverRat13

That Michael Dyer was such a bad apple that he was kicked out of two schools. I don't see how he is a good example of an SEC team booting a kid that may have been kept on a team in another conference. I don't think he makes it anywhere.

I doubt Mahlzan gave him more than an inch of rope after Auburn cut ties with Dyer given Malzahn was intimately aware of wht went on with Dyer.

Dyer would've still been a Gator under Meyer. Auburn spanked him against their best interest on the field.

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I doubt Mahlzan gave him more than an inch of rope after Auburn cut ties with Dyer given Malzahn was intimately aware of wht went on with Dyer.

Dyer would've still been a Gator under Meyer. Auburn spanked him against their best interest on the field.

He got caught with weed and a gun in his car. And the cop who pulled him over got fired for basically trying to cover up for Dyer by taking the gun and tossing out the weed (must have been a big Arkansas St. fan).

You might be right that he would still be a Gator under Meyer (especially after reading the long espn.com article about him), but the word was that Dyer failed a drug test that not only led to his suspension for the bowl game but also would have cost him multiple games the next season. There is no definitive answer that Dyer was told to "take a hike" by Auburn, rather it is quite possible (if not probable) that he left on his own.

Re: SEC Football Discussion Thread

Originally Posted by RiverRat13

He got caught with weed and a gun in his car. And the cop who pulled him over got fired for basically trying to cover up for Dyer by taking the gun and tossing out the weed (must have been a big Arkansas St. fan).

You might be right that he would still be a Gator under Meyer (especially after reading the long espn.com article about him), but the word was that Dyer failed a drug test that not only led to his suspension for the bowl game but also would have cost him multiple games the next season. There is no definitive answer that Dyer was told to "take a hike" by Auburn, rather it is quite possible (if not probable) that he left on his own.

He was told he had to do X to get Y (i.e. be reinstated). He did not do X.

It's that simple.

Auburn didn't have to do anything in response to a drug test if that truly was the issue-he was suspended for a violation of team rules. You tried making that point with an earlier link. Auburn did.

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I, for one, am a HUGE Auburn football fan, and I think that the Michael Dyer situation is one of the most upsetting things to me. It's not because we lost him, but it is because this guy could have had a wonderful football career. He was on pace to be one of the greatest running backs in Auburn history, along with Bo Jackson! But he chose to have a bad attitude (he told people he was bigger than Auburn and treated the coaches poorly) and got into trouble. Such a shame and waste of talent.

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Re: SEC Football Discussion Thread

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It's too bad there isn't a Bammer on here for JoJo to play with.

Originally Posted by Scrap Irony

Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)

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Concerning Robinson this is actually a big blessing. Imagine if he played and this was revealed mid season.

Right now it looks like he'll end up being a partial qualifier which is tantamount to being redshirted (and he most likely would've been redshirted anyway).

As far as this being a problem for Auburn, it's difficult seeing that being a likely reality. They essentially would have had to be complicit with the counselor and that just doesn't make much sense. I actually feel pretty bad for Robinson as it appears he did not know about the counselor's actions-if true he's got to be both embarrassed and frustrated.

Through a Bammer filter, the Plains would be burning down and Interpol is closing in....

Last edited by jojo; 08-11-2012 at 06:15 PM.

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There are Bama fans saying that we cheated with this whole Robinson deal. This is why we hate them. That, and about a million other things.

Meanwhile, Bama allegedly moved a top high school recruit to a school to Foley High School so he could pass high school. O ya, and they sent the NCAA down to Auburn to see if there was a booster involved with Rueben Foster because OBVIOUSLY no person could even think about changing from the University of Alabama to the Barn!

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Re: SEC Football Discussion Thread

Originally Posted by WDE

There are Bama fans saying that we cheated with this whole Robinson deal. This is why we hate them. That, and about a million other things.

Meanwhile, Bama allegedly moved a top high school recruit to a school to Foley High School so he could pass high school. O ya, and they sent the NCAA down to Auburn to see if there was a booster involved with Rueben Foster because OBVIOUSLY no person could even think about changing from the University of Alabama to the Barn!

The NCAA routinely checks up on highly touted recruits like Foster just as a matter of course. You can bet that Yeldon was interviewed last year and Howard/Allen will be interviewed if they haven't been already. That the NCAA briefly interviewed Foster about his college decision is not newsworthy-it's just routine quality control. That the occurrence of this interview was leaked however, is out of the ordinary.

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