MAKERS of the controversial Benefits Street documentary are planning a sequel in Southampton.

Love Productions has approached residents in Derby Road, St Mary’s, for the new show that will be called Immigration Street and will focus on the area’s diverse communities.

Harjap Singh, chairman of Sikh Council Hampshire and Southampton Gurdwara Council, said the organisations have raised concerns over the programme.

He said: "We are against it because it would be pretty bad for community relations.

"The Vaisakhi celebrations looks to bring communities together but it seems the programme makers could put certain sections of the community against each other.

"A few people I have spoken to have raised concerns and have asked to make sure this doesn't happen."

David Bane, secretary of the Southampton Council of Faiths, said the organisation was "cautious".

He said: "The council of faiths had a meeting last Tuesday and there's mixed feeling about it.

"We don't have control over what the programme comes out like.

"The Southampton Council of Faiths is nearly 19 years old and we have worked very hard to link communities and keep the trust and peace.

"Southampton has a history of immigration. We have had people come to this city for years and I think in a way majority of people see it as a real added value to the community - we have around 47 languages spoken here.

"We need to be careful."

However Khalid Farooq, of the Derby Road-based Pakistan Welfare Association said it was an opportunity to show how multi-cultural Derby Road is.

He said: "I think it's good. It shows the multi-cultural environment of people living in Derby Road.

"They should show a positive aspect of the community.

"I think there needs to be more support and show how hard working people are here."

Cllr Stephen Barnes-Andrew, deputy leader of Southampton City Council and cabinet member for resources, represents the Bevois ward.

He said: "It is difficult because your whole experience of the programme is sensationalised from James Turner Street in Birmingham and it turned out the whole programme was stage managed.

"They have had meetings with council officers on one occasion and said they will try to do a balanced programme.

"My view is that on balance looking at previous production it will not be in the interests of people in Southampton as I fear they will be turning to portray a certain angle on the downside of immigration."

Cllr Satvir Kaur, Southampton City Council's cabinet member for communities, said: "If I am being completely honest I do have concerns about a potential programme called Immigration Street.

"We have one of the most diverse cities on the south coast. We have a variety of diverse communities in Southampton and community cohesion is something we should pride ourselves on.

"My concern is that it will not show that, and I am genuinely worried about vulnerable people in that area in Derby Road.

"I do not want them taken advantage of and portrayed as something they are not.

"As cabinet member of communities I am working closely with Alan Whitehead and the police about our fears of this show. We have some really strong partnerships in this city and together we want to voice our concerns.

"Some people could be taken advantage of as they will not realise how the final edit will portray them.

"I have worked in media and I appreciate that ultimately they want something that gets viewers and showing that we are a big happy family, is probably not going to be it."

It has potential to be a great platform to highlight the diversity in Southampton and encourage mutual understanding and respect of different cultures, lifestyles and problems residents face. BUT being a Channel 4 program its most likely going to be twisted into fulfilling an "entertaining" agenda that would most likely damage community relations.

It has potential to be a great platform to highlight the diversity in Southampton and encourage mutual understanding and respect of different cultures, lifestyles and problems residents face. BUT being a Channel 4 program its most likely going to be twisted into fulfilling an "entertaining" agenda that would most likely damage community relations.theamazingrob

theamazingrob wrote:
It has potential to be a great platform to highlight the diversity in Southampton and encourage mutual understanding and respect of different cultures, lifestyles and problems residents face. BUT being a Channel 4 program its most likely going to be twisted into fulfilling an &quot;entertaining" agenda that would most likely damage community relations.

On the other hand, we'd see the birth of several new "celebrities".

[quote][p][bold]theamazingrob[/bold] wrote:
It has potential to be a great platform to highlight the diversity in Southampton and encourage mutual understanding and respect of different cultures, lifestyles and problems residents face. BUT being a Channel 4 program its most likely going to be twisted into fulfilling an "entertaining" agenda that would most likely damage community relations.[/p][/quote]On the other hand, we'd see the birth of several new "celebrities".Charlie Bucket

Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.

Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.Paramjit Bahia

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.

I get the point you're trying to make, but that's not actually the case. See: Crown Estate.

[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.[/p][/quote]I get the point you're trying to make, but that's not actually the case. See: Crown Estate.Charlie Bucket

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.

Presumably you're referring to our Royal Family - the most famous family in the world who bring billions of pounds to the country through tourism, are wonderful representatives for our country and I'm proud to have our 88 year old Queen as our figurehead. The Queen has devoted her life to our country and works almost every day of the year.

Not quite the same as unskilled immigrants motivated to come to the UK purely because of our benefit system, planning a life funded by taxpayers and giving absolutely nothing back.

[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.[/p][/quote]Presumably you're referring to our Royal Family - the most famous family in the world who bring billions of pounds to the country through tourism, are wonderful representatives for our country and I'm proud to have our 88 year old Queen as our figurehead. The Queen has devoted her life to our country and works almost every day of the year.
Not quite the same as unskilled immigrants motivated to come to the UK purely because of our benefit system, planning a life funded by taxpayers and giving absolutely nothing back.sotonboy84

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.

Just to give you a little insight into the working day of Her Majesty. Not bad for over 60 years commitment...

[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.[/p][/quote]Just to give you a little insight into the working day of Her Majesty. Not bad for over 60 years commitment...
http://www.royal.gov
.uk/HMTheQueen/DayIn
TheLife/Queensworkin
gday.aspxsotonboy84

I am the descendant of Irish and Scottish immigrants who moved to our fair city in the early part of last century. I also live in the area where Channel 4 will be filming. I doubt, however, if they will be interested in talking to me as I probably don't fit the 'celebrity' cap.

Derby Road provides a rich mixture of cultures, tastes, religions and languages and this is the area's strength. The characters I meet in (or outside) the Banga store and, especially on match days or ska gigs, at the Old Farmhouse are testament to how well people here get on with each other despite all of life's hardships.

It would be nice if the Channel 4 documentary could focus on this.

I am the descendant of Irish and Scottish immigrants who moved to our fair city in the early part of last century. I also live in the area where Channel 4 will be filming. I doubt, however, if they will be interested in talking to me as I probably don't fit the 'celebrity' cap.
Derby Road provides a rich mixture of cultures, tastes, religions and languages and this is the area's strength. The characters I meet in (or outside) the Banga store and, especially on match days or ska gigs, at the Old Farmhouse are testament to how well people here get on with each other despite all of life's hardships.
It would be nice if the Channel 4 documentary could focus on this.FoysCornerBoy

Entertainment? Highlights the appalling decisions made by both main parties over the years, we de-industrialized the first publications of the decline of British industry appeared in 1908. The 1960s saw this accelerate - we were trying to sell to the world with such as 'hand made' which to the discerning customer meant we had not invested in modern machinery and no two cars etc would be similar they were not and people did not buy them. We will be the 'service industry' to the world (T Thatcher) and the city will make us all rich along with squandered oil revenues - this is when we accepted that to keep the higher echelons and the middle classes earning good money we had to accept and pay for a level of unemployment - now the theory has gone pear shaped we blame the very people who were put into this position and exploit them with this nonsense.

Entertainment? Highlights the appalling decisions made by both main parties over the years, we de-industrialized the first publications of the decline of British industry appeared in 1908. The 1960s saw this accelerate - we were trying to sell to the world with such as 'hand made' which to the discerning customer meant we had not invested in modern machinery and no two cars etc would be similar they were not and people did not buy them. We will be the 'service industry' to the world (T Thatcher) and the city will make us all rich along with squandered oil revenues - this is when we accepted that to keep the higher echelons and the middle classes earning good money we had to accept and pay for a level of unemployment - now the theory has gone pear shaped we blame the very people who were put into this position and exploit them with this nonsense.skeptik

They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.

[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote:
Love Productions?
An appropriately named company?[/p][/quote]They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.southy

Definitely avoid it, they will just twist it into some perverse UKIP propaganda fest for those with an IQ of less than 50 of which there are plenty of examples here in the city
This is one of the safest areas to be in Southampton and long may it stay that way.

Definitely avoid it, they will just twist it into some perverse UKIP propaganda fest for those with an IQ of less than 50 of which there are plenty of examples here in the city
This is one of the safest areas to be in Southampton and long may it stay that way.bigfella777

They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.

Oh sod off.

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote:
Love Productions?
An appropriately named company?[/p][/quote]They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.[/p][/quote]Oh sod off.Charlie Bucket

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.

I get the point you're trying to make, but that's not actually the case. See: Crown Estate.

The cost of the royal family is 3 times as much to what is earned by the royal family

[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.[/p][/quote]I get the point you're trying to make, but that's not actually the case. See: Crown Estate.[/p][/quote]The cost of the royal family is 3 times as much to what is earned by the royal familysouthy

Southampton, as a Port, has always had this diversity in many shapes and sizes. My guess would be that most Southampton residents are descendents of immigrants (incl from Scotland, Wales and Ireland).

Seems to me a case of "thou protests too much"!

What have Southampton to be ashamed of? Because that's the message being given out by the likes of Whitehead - we are ashamed!

Let the program be made. Let's see what life can be for some people in Southampton.

It's all very well cheering your local football team - what about cheering for Southampton?!

Southampton, as a Port, has always had this diversity in many shapes and sizes. My guess would be that most Southampton residents are descendents of immigrants (incl from Scotland, Wales and Ireland).
Seems to me a case of "thou protests too much"!
What have Southampton to be ashamed of? Because that's the message being given out by the likes of Whitehead - we are ashamed!
Let the program be made. Let's see what life can be for some people in Southampton.
It's all very well cheering your local football team - what about cheering for Southampton?!George4th

How about asking every single resident if they agree to have their lives put on tv for public scrutiny. Not everyone wants to be a reality 'celebrity'. I would be horrified if this happened to the road I live in as I like my privacy. I'm sure there will be many families who do not want this stuck on them in the name of entertainment. Just saying :)

How about asking every single resident if they agree to have their lives put on tv for public scrutiny. Not everyone wants to be a reality 'celebrity'. I would be horrified if this happened to the road I live in as I like my privacy. I'm sure there will be many families who do not want this stuck on them in the name of entertainment. Just saying :)soobear

Southampton, like many other places has a really good multicultural base and all these programmes do is try to split communities. The comments after the Birmingham programme was often very racist in their words. It allows too many with anti migrant, immigrant, anti any one they do not like a chance to comment in vile ways. Forget doing any programme. Southampton is alive and well and multicultural by pride. Why give the few with poor views a platform to spout them on? Tell the programme makers to go away.

Southampton, like many other places has a really good multicultural base and all these programmes do is try to split communities. The comments after the Birmingham programme was often very racist in their words. It allows too many with anti migrant, immigrant, anti any one they do not like a chance to comment in vile ways. Forget doing any programme. Southampton is alive and well and multicultural by pride. Why give the few with poor views a platform to spout them on? Tell the programme makers to go away.tigerolw

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.

I get the point you're trying to make, but that's not actually the case. See: Crown Estate.

The cost of the royal family is 3 times as much to what is earned by the royal family

I, too, can simply make up numbers.

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.[/p][/quote]I get the point you're trying to make, but that's not actually the case. See: Crown Estate.[/p][/quote]The cost of the royal family is 3 times as much to what is earned by the royal family[/p][/quote]I, too, can simply make up numbers.Charlie Bucket

This programme will end up being a platform, soapbox or bandwagon for some xenophobic group to pounce upon.
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As with Benefits Street it will be glorified to highlight and exaggerate any divisions that may exist between its residents. In this case, based around their cultures and origins.
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The proposed area has had its issues over the years but now seems to be a thriving community where many immigrant families have settled and raised families as British subjects.
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How disappointing it would be for this to be shown in a poor light as potentially this is what could happen

This programme will end up being a platform, soapbox or bandwagon for some xenophobic group to pounce upon.
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As with Benefits Street it will be glorified to highlight and exaggerate any divisions that may exist between its residents. In this case, based around their cultures and origins.
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The proposed area has had its issues over the years but now seems to be a thriving community where many immigrant families have settled and raised families as British subjects.
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How disappointing it would be for this to be shown in a poor light as potentially this is what could happenLone Ranger.

Lone Ranger. wrote:
This programme will end up being a platform, soapbox or bandwagon for some xenophobic group to pounce upon.
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As with Benefits Street it will be glorified to highlight and exaggerate any divisions that may exist between its residents. In this case, based around their cultures and origins.
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The proposed area has had its issues over the years but now seems to be a thriving community where many immigrant families have settled and raised families as British subjects.
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How disappointing it would be for this to be shown in a poor light as potentially this is what could happen

End up? That's exactly how it will start out.

[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote:
This programme will end up being a platform, soapbox or bandwagon for some xenophobic group to pounce upon.
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As with Benefits Street it will be glorified to highlight and exaggerate any divisions that may exist between its residents. In this case, based around their cultures and origins.
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The proposed area has had its issues over the years but now seems to be a thriving community where many immigrant families have settled and raised families as British subjects.
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How disappointing it would be for this to be shown in a poor light as potentially this is what could happen[/p][/quote]End up? That's exactly how it will start out.Charlie Bucket

FoysCornerBoy wrote:
I am the descendant of Irish and Scottish immigrants who moved to our fair city in the early part of last century. I also live in the area where Channel 4 will be filming. I doubt, however, if they will be interested in talking to me as I probably don't fit the 'celebrity' cap.

Derby Road provides a rich mixture of cultures, tastes, religions and languages and this is the area's strength. The characters I meet in (or outside) the Banga store and, especially on match days or ska gigs, at the Old Farmhouse are testament to how well people here get on with each other despite all of life's hardships.

It would be nice if the Channel 4 documentary could focus on this.

It would be, but they won't. This company is interested in one thing only and making balanced documentaries is not it. Southampton absolutely does not need this.

[quote][p][bold]FoysCornerBoy[/bold] wrote:
I am the descendant of Irish and Scottish immigrants who moved to our fair city in the early part of last century. I also live in the area where Channel 4 will be filming. I doubt, however, if they will be interested in talking to me as I probably don't fit the 'celebrity' cap.
Derby Road provides a rich mixture of cultures, tastes, religions and languages and this is the area's strength. The characters I meet in (or outside) the Banga store and, especially on match days or ska gigs, at the Old Farmhouse are testament to how well people here get on with each other despite all of life's hardships.
It would be nice if the Channel 4 documentary could focus on this.[/p][/quote]It would be, but they won't. This company is interested in one thing only and making balanced documentaries is not it. Southampton absolutely does not need this.WalkingOnAWire

Let them make the program then sit every MP in the country down and show them life in a inner city and what a absolute disgracful mess they have made of our country with their immigration policies. 47 different languages in one road shocking. then lets see how many are here to enhance our country and how many are here for the benifits they receive for doing absolutely nothing

Let them make the program then sit every MP in the country down and show them life in a inner city and what a absolute disgracful mess they have made of our country with their immigration policies. 47 different languages in one road shocking. then lets see how many are here to enhance our country and how many are here for the benifits they receive for doing absolutely nothingWoolston ollie

Woolston ollie wrote:
Let them make the program then sit every MP in the country down and show them life in a inner city and what a absolute disgracful mess they have made of our country with their immigration policies. 47 different languages in one road shocking. then lets see how many are here to enhance our country and how many are here for the benifits they receive for doing absolutely nothing

In all seriousness, can you explain to me what exactly is so shocking about 47 languages in one road?

[quote][p][bold]Woolston ollie[/bold] wrote:
Let them make the program then sit every MP in the country down and show them life in a inner city and what a absolute disgracful mess they have made of our country with their immigration policies. 47 different languages in one road shocking. then lets see how many are here to enhance our country and how many are here for the benifits they receive for doing absolutely nothing[/p][/quote]In all seriousness, can you explain to me what exactly is so shocking about 47 languages in one road?Charlie Bucket

How about a programme about nice non-benefit scrounging people? We do exist you know. Myself and my husband, both from council estates, worked hard to better ourselves and now have a nice house, two great children who work equally hard at school and will pass on our good values. We aren't chavs, don't own staffies, get drunk in the park or make nuisances of ourselves. Our parents didn't have two pennies to rub together sometimes but one thing they did instill in us was self-worth and a good work ethic. But hey focus on the useless and idle why don't you?

How about a programme about nice non-benefit scrounging people? We do exist you know. Myself and my husband, both from council estates, worked hard to better ourselves and now have a nice house, two great children who work equally hard at school and will pass on our good values. We aren't chavs, don't own staffies, get drunk in the park or make nuisances of ourselves. Our parents didn't have two pennies to rub together sometimes but one thing they did instill in us was self-worth and a good work ethic. But hey focus on the useless and idle why don't you?LadySam

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.

I get the point you're trying to make, but that's not actually the case. See: Crown Estate.

The cost of the royal family is 3 times as much to what is earned by the royal family

I, too, can simply make up numbers.

Not made up but real facts, just security for the Queen alone cost Tax payers in the region of £500 million a year, the Cost of keeping Buckingham Palace a year is over £700 million.
The Royal family income in one year is £1.5 million a year plus on top of that what tourism brings in which is about £18 million a year, there total reserves is about £14 million in which £11.8m of which comes from property, plant and equipment.
In 2012 the Queen cost us over £25 million, this don't take into account the cost of the up keep and running of the Royal Family residences, like Balmoral, Buckingham and other places.
Profits from the Royal Estate aka Crown Estates in 2012 came to £200 million.
In 2012 the Government pass "Sovereign Grant" which entitles the sitting monarch to the rough equivalent of 15% of revenues from The Crown Estate, The Crown Technically are in debt to the Government and have been since King George III, that debt just gets bigger and there is no interest to be paid on the debt.

[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.[/p][/quote]I get the point you're trying to make, but that's not actually the case. See: Crown Estate.[/p][/quote]The cost of the royal family is 3 times as much to what is earned by the royal family[/p][/quote]I, too, can simply make up numbers.[/p][/quote]Not made up but real facts, just security for the Queen alone cost Tax payers in the region of £500 million a year, the Cost of keeping Buckingham Palace a year is over £700 million.
The Royal family income in one year is £1.5 million a year plus on top of that what tourism brings in which is about £18 million a year, there total reserves is about £14 million in which £11.8m of which comes from property, plant and equipment.
In 2012 the Queen cost us over £25 million, this don't take into account the cost of the up keep and running of the Royal Family residences, like Balmoral, Buckingham and other places.
Profits from the Royal Estate aka Crown Estates in 2012 came to £200 million.
In 2012 the Government pass "Sovereign Grant" which entitles the sitting monarch to the rough equivalent of 15% of revenues from The Crown Estate, The Crown Technically are in debt to the Government and have been since King George III, that debt just gets bigger and there is no interest to be paid on the debt.southy

I've always been so proud to live in a city with such a rich and diverse population. St. Marys has long been a multicultural area, so why home in on it now as "Immigration Street"? Watch C4 tear it to shreds... I hope it doesn't happen.

I've always been so proud to live in a city with such a rich and diverse population. St. Marys has long been a multicultural area, so why home in on it now as "Immigration Street"? Watch C4 tear it to shreds... I hope it doesn't happen.treehamer

Woolston ollie wrote:
Charle Bucket
Most of those 47 nationalies will be on benefits coming in from country so far away just to come here for handouts. and the program will show excately that.

And you know this because?

[quote][p][bold]Woolston ollie[/bold] wrote:
Charle Bucket
Most of those 47 nationalies will be on benefits coming in from country so far away just to come here for handouts. and the program will show excately that.[/p][/quote]And you know this because?bigfella777

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.

I get the point you're trying to make, but that's not actually the case. See: Crown Estate.

The cost of the royal family is 3 times as much to what is earned by the royal family

I, too, can simply make up numbers.

Not made up but real facts, just security for the Queen alone cost Tax payers in the region of £500 million a year, the Cost of keeping Buckingham Palace a year is over £700 million.
The Royal family income in one year is £1.5 million a year plus on top of that what tourism brings in which is about £18 million a year, there total reserves is about £14 million in which £11.8m of which comes from property, plant and equipment.
In 2012 the Queen cost us over £25 million, this don't take into account the cost of the up keep and running of the Royal Family residences, like Balmoral, Buckingham and other places.
Profits from the Royal Estate aka Crown Estates in 2012 came to £200 million.
In 2012 the Government pass &quot;Sovereign Grant" which entitles the sitting monarch to the rough equivalent of 15% of revenues from The Crown Estate, The Crown Technically are in debt to the Government and have been since King George III, that debt just gets bigger and there is no interest to be paid on the debt.

Until you provide sources for any of this, I'm just going to assume you made it up.

Amusingly, though, you've stated the cost of the Queen in 2012 was £25m, but the income from the Crown Estates was almost ten times this. Do you understand what any of these words mean?

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.[/p][/quote]I get the point you're trying to make, but that's not actually the case. See: Crown Estate.[/p][/quote]The cost of the royal family is 3 times as much to what is earned by the royal family[/p][/quote]I, too, can simply make up numbers.[/p][/quote]Not made up but real facts, just security for the Queen alone cost Tax payers in the region of £500 million a year, the Cost of keeping Buckingham Palace a year is over £700 million.
The Royal family income in one year is £1.5 million a year plus on top of that what tourism brings in which is about £18 million a year, there total reserves is about £14 million in which £11.8m of which comes from property, plant and equipment.
In 2012 the Queen cost us over £25 million, this don't take into account the cost of the up keep and running of the Royal Family residences, like Balmoral, Buckingham and other places.
Profits from the Royal Estate aka Crown Estates in 2012 came to £200 million.
In 2012 the Government pass "Sovereign Grant" which entitles the sitting monarch to the rough equivalent of 15% of revenues from The Crown Estate, The Crown Technically are in debt to the Government and have been since King George III, that debt just gets bigger and there is no interest to be paid on the debt.[/p][/quote]Until you provide sources for any of this, I'm just going to assume you made it up.
Amusingly, though, you've stated the cost of the Queen in 2012 was £25m, but the income from the Crown Estates was almost ten times this. Do you understand what any of these words mean?Charlie Bucket

Woolston ollie wrote:
Charle Bucket
Most of those 47 nationalies will be on benefits coming in from country so far away just to come here for handouts. and the program will show excately that.

Ah, so your definition of "language" is "person on benefits"? Right, my mistake. I assumed I was talking to a person with an IQ in the double figures.

[quote][p][bold]Woolston ollie[/bold] wrote:
Charle Bucket
Most of those 47 nationalies will be on benefits coming in from country so far away just to come here for handouts. and the program will show excately that.[/p][/quote]Ah, so your definition of "language" is "person on benefits"? Right, my mistake. I assumed I was talking to a person with an IQ in the double figures.Charlie Bucket

Woolston ollie wrote:
Charle Bucket
Most of those 47 nationalies will be on benefits coming in from country so far away just to come here for handouts. and the program will show excately that.

And you know this because?

It said so in the pamphlet from the BNP that someone read out to him once.

[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Woolston ollie[/bold] wrote:
Charle Bucket
Most of those 47 nationalies will be on benefits coming in from country so far away just to come here for handouts. and the program will show excately that.[/p][/quote]And you know this because?[/p][/quote]It said so in the pamphlet from the BNP that someone read out to him once.Charlie Bucket

Woolston ollie wrote:
Let them make the program then sit every MP in the country down and show them life in a inner city and what a absolute disgracful mess they have made of our country with their immigration policies. 47 different languages in one road shocking. then lets see how many are here to enhance our country and how many are here for the benifits they receive for doing absolutely nothing

In all seriousness, can you explain to me what exactly is so shocking about 47 languages in one road?

You can't even spell benefits you plank

[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Woolston ollie[/bold] wrote:
Let them make the program then sit every MP in the country down and show them life in a inner city and what a absolute disgracful mess they have made of our country with their immigration policies. 47 different languages in one road shocking. then lets see how many are here to enhance our country and how many are here for the benifits they receive for doing absolutely nothing[/p][/quote]In all seriousness, can you explain to me what exactly is so shocking about 47 languages in one road?[/p][/quote]You can't even spell benefits you plankbigfella777

Woolston ollie wrote:
Charle Bucket
Most of those 47 nationalies will be on benefits coming in from country so far away just to come here for handouts. and the program will show excately that.
And you know this because?

The program will show im right having been through St Marys many times of the day and seeing so many of those 47 nationals hanging around doing nothing outside the s$*tholes they call home.

Woolston ollie wrote:
Charle Bucket
Most of those 47 nationalies will be on benefits coming in from country so far away just to come here for handouts. and the program will show excately that.
And you know this because?
The program will show im right having been through St Marys many times of the day and seeing so many of those 47 nationals hanging around doing nothing outside the s$*tholes they call home.Woolston ollie

Woolston ollie wrote:
Woolston ollie wrote:
Charle Bucket
Most of those 47 nationalies will be on benefits coming in from country so far away just to come here for handouts. and the program will show excately that.
And you know this because?

The program will show im right having been through St Marys many times of the day and seeing so many of those 47 nationals hanging around doing nothing outside the s$*tholes they call home.

Pick your knuckles up or they will scrape on the floor, hows the smell of sh*t in Woolston?

[quote][p][bold]Woolston ollie[/bold] wrote:
Woolston ollie wrote:
Charle Bucket
Most of those 47 nationalies will be on benefits coming in from country so far away just to come here for handouts. and the program will show excately that.
And you know this because?
The program will show im right having been through St Marys many times of the day and seeing so many of those 47 nationals hanging around doing nothing outside the s$*tholes they call home.[/p][/quote]Pick your knuckles up or they will scrape on the floor, hows the smell of sh*t in Woolston?bigfella777

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.

I get the point you're trying to make, but that's not actually the case. See: Crown Estate.

The cost of the royal family is 3 times as much to what is earned by the royal family

I, too, can simply make up numbers.

Not made up but real facts, just security for the Queen alone cost Tax payers in the region of £500 million a year, the Cost of keeping Buckingham Palace a year is over £700 million.
The Royal family income in one year is £1.5 million a year plus on top of that what tourism brings in which is about £18 million a year, there total reserves is about £14 million in which £11.8m of which comes from property, plant and equipment.
In 2012 the Queen cost us over £25 million, this don't take into account the cost of the up keep and running of the Royal Family residences, like Balmoral, Buckingham and other places.
Profits from the Royal Estate aka Crown Estates in 2012 came to £200 million.
In 2012 the Government pass &quot;Sovereign Grant" which entitles the sitting monarch to the rough equivalent of 15% of revenues from The Crown Estate, The Crown Technically are in debt to the Government and have been since King George III, that debt just gets bigger and there is no interest to be paid on the debt.

We love you Southy. You'd give Eric and Ernie a run for their money in the comedy stakes any day. But in passing I guess your preferred ruler would be genial Bob Mugabe, presidents of republics being ipso facto wonderful. Can you remind your readers how much he cost his country?
"chairman of Sikh Council Hampshire" can someone tell me when the next elections to this august body take place?

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.[/p][/quote]I get the point you're trying to make, but that's not actually the case. See: Crown Estate.[/p][/quote]The cost of the royal family is 3 times as much to what is earned by the royal family[/p][/quote]I, too, can simply make up numbers.[/p][/quote]Not made up but real facts, just security for the Queen alone cost Tax payers in the region of £500 million a year, the Cost of keeping Buckingham Palace a year is over £700 million.
The Royal family income in one year is £1.5 million a year plus on top of that what tourism brings in which is about £18 million a year, there total reserves is about £14 million in which £11.8m of which comes from property, plant and equipment.
In 2012 the Queen cost us over £25 million, this don't take into account the cost of the up keep and running of the Royal Family residences, like Balmoral, Buckingham and other places.
Profits from the Royal Estate aka Crown Estates in 2012 came to £200 million.
In 2012 the Government pass "Sovereign Grant" which entitles the sitting monarch to the rough equivalent of 15% of revenues from The Crown Estate, The Crown Technically are in debt to the Government and have been since King George III, that debt just gets bigger and there is no interest to be paid on the debt.[/p][/quote]We love you Southy. You'd give Eric and Ernie a run for their money in the comedy stakes any day. But in passing I guess your preferred ruler would be genial Bob Mugabe, presidents of republics being ipso facto wonderful. Can you remind your readers how much he cost his country?
"chairman of Sikh Council Hampshire" can someone tell me when the next elections to this august body take place?Dai Rear

Woolston ollie wrote:
Let them make the program then sit every MP in the country down and show them life in a inner city and what a absolute disgracful mess they have made of our country with their immigration policies. 47 different languages in one road shocking. then lets see how many are here to enhance our country and how many are here for the benifits they receive for doing absolutely nothing

In all seriousness, can you explain to me what exactly is so shocking about 47 languages in one road?

You can't even spell benefits you plank

Eh?

[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Woolston ollie[/bold] wrote:
Let them make the program then sit every MP in the country down and show them life in a inner city and what a absolute disgracful mess they have made of our country with their immigration policies. 47 different languages in one road shocking. then lets see how many are here to enhance our country and how many are here for the benifits they receive for doing absolutely nothing[/p][/quote]In all seriousness, can you explain to me what exactly is so shocking about 47 languages in one road?[/p][/quote]You can't even spell benefits you plank[/p][/quote]Eh?Charlie Bucket

Woolston ollie wrote:
Let them make the program then sit every MP in the country down and show them life in a inner city and what a absolute disgracful mess they have made of our country with their immigration policies. 47 different languages in one road shocking. then lets see how many are here to enhance our country and how many are here for the benifits they receive for doing absolutely nothing

In all seriousness, can you explain to me what exactly is so shocking about 47 languages in one road?

You can't even spell benefits you plank

Eh?

Never mind, bigfella, I see you just quoted the wrong post!

[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Woolston ollie[/bold] wrote:
Let them make the program then sit every MP in the country down and show them life in a inner city and what a absolute disgracful mess they have made of our country with their immigration policies. 47 different languages in one road shocking. then lets see how many are here to enhance our country and how many are here for the benifits they receive for doing absolutely nothing[/p][/quote]In all seriousness, can you explain to me what exactly is so shocking about 47 languages in one road?[/p][/quote]You can't even spell benefits you plank[/p][/quote]Eh?[/p][/quote]Never mind, bigfella, I see you just quoted the wrong post!Charlie Bucket

FoysCornerBoy wrote:
I am the descendant of Irish and Scottish immigrants who moved to our fair city in the early part of last century. I also live in the area where Channel 4 will be filming. I doubt, however, if they will be interested in talking to me as I probably don't fit the 'celebrity' cap.

Derby Road provides a rich mixture of cultures, tastes, religions and languages and this is the area's strength. The characters I meet in (or outside) the Banga store and, especially on match days or ska gigs, at the Old Farmhouse are testament to how well people here get on with each other despite all of life's hardships.

[quote][p][bold]FoysCornerBoy[/bold] wrote:
I am the descendant of Irish and Scottish immigrants who moved to our fair city in the early part of last century. I also live in the area where Channel 4 will be filming. I doubt, however, if they will be interested in talking to me as I probably don't fit the 'celebrity' cap.
Derby Road provides a rich mixture of cultures, tastes, religions and languages and this is the area's strength. The characters I meet in (or outside) the Banga store and, especially on match days or ska gigs, at the Old Farmhouse are testament to how well people here get on with each other despite all of life's hardships.
It would be nice if the Channel 4 documentary could focus on this.[/p][/quote]I share your optimism Dave, however I don't think Channel 4 will going by Benefits Street.Outside of the Box

Woolston ollie wrote:
Charlie Fucket
id rather **** my sister than any of those dossers from Derby road. I think you are only sticking up for them because you frequent the area regular to get your fix or to meet a woman, what is the going rate these days under a tenner i reckon. Also i see you dont put where you are from in our fantastic multi cultural city.
This country is going to the dogs and its dicks like you letting it

This country is going to the dogs because of the rampant jingoism and embarrassingly poor literacy of idiots like you. Still, glad I provoked a nice angry outburst from you. I'll have a laugh about that for a minute, then forget all about you.

[quote][p][bold]Woolston ollie[/bold] wrote:
Charlie Fucket
id rather **** my sister than any of those dossers from Derby road. I think you are only sticking up for them because you frequent the area regular to get your fix or to meet a woman, what is the going rate these days under a tenner i reckon. Also i see you dont put where you are from in our fantastic multi cultural city.
This country is going to the dogs and its dicks like you letting it[/p][/quote]This country is going to the dogs because of the rampant jingoism and embarrassingly poor literacy of idiots like you. Still, glad I provoked a nice angry outburst from you. I'll have a laugh about that for a minute, then forget all about you.Charlie Bucket

Southampton, St Marys in particular is rich in culture and is one of the most diverse in the country, I remember the news at 10 doing a report on how many languages are spoken and most importantly ‘How we all get along’ I pride my self being part of that community the last thing we need is some production company coming to our ‘Great’ city and smashing that community spirit and no doubt they will have a hidden agenda.

There are no issue with the different cultures in St Marys ever one gets along and is a happy place.
Lets leave it a happy place and any resident should turn there back to such a documentary unless you what to end up being the next White Dee (Sorry Dee).

Southampton, St Marys in particular is rich in culture and is one of the most diverse in the country, I remember the news at 10 doing a report on how many languages are spoken and most importantly ‘How we all get along’ I pride my self being part of that community the last thing we need is some production company coming to our ‘Great’ city and smashing that community spirit and no doubt they will have a hidden agenda.
There are no issue with the different cultures in St Marys ever one gets along and is a happy place.
Lets leave it a happy place and any resident should turn there back to such a documentary unless you what to end up being the next White Dee (Sorry Dee).RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.

I get the point you're trying to make, but that's not actually the case. See: Crown Estate.

The cost of the royal family is 3 times as much to what is earned by the royal family

I, too, can simply make up numbers.

Not made up but real facts, just security for the Queen alone cost Tax payers in the region of £500 million a year, the Cost of keeping Buckingham Palace a year is over £700 million.
The Royal family income in one year is £1.5 million a year plus on top of that what tourism brings in which is about £18 million a year, there total reserves is about £14 million in which £11.8m of which comes from property, plant and equipment.
In 2012 the Queen cost us over £25 million, this don't take into account the cost of the up keep and running of the Royal Family residences, like Balmoral, Buckingham and other places.
Profits from the Royal Estate aka Crown Estates in 2012 came to £200 million.
In 2012 the Government pass &quot;Sovereign Grant" which entitles the sitting monarch to the rough equivalent of 15% of revenues from The Crown Estate, The Crown Technically are in debt to the Government and have been since King George III, that debt just gets bigger and there is no interest to be paid on the debt.

Until you provide sources for any of this, I'm just going to assume you made it up.

Amusingly, though, you've stated the cost of the Queen in 2012 was £25m, but the income from the Crown Estates was almost ten times this. Do you understand what any of these words mean?

I do under stand but you don't, the Crown is only Beneficiary of the Crown Estates, and your not taking into account like the £500 million in tax payers money just to run the Security for the Queen, it sorts of wipes out the total income from the Crown Estates and put them in debt right away by £300 million which is a public tax burden that as to be paid.
No your picking and choosing bits and pieces, Oh by the way you can not get all the facts and figures from place, to find out the real in and outs of this then you need to listen to the yearly Q and A time by the house of Commons and Lords Select Committee that takes place every June/July in Parliament bench common room in the East Wing

[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.[/p][/quote]I get the point you're trying to make, but that's not actually the case. See: Crown Estate.[/p][/quote]The cost of the royal family is 3 times as much to what is earned by the royal family[/p][/quote]I, too, can simply make up numbers.[/p][/quote]Not made up but real facts, just security for the Queen alone cost Tax payers in the region of £500 million a year, the Cost of keeping Buckingham Palace a year is over £700 million.
The Royal family income in one year is £1.5 million a year plus on top of that what tourism brings in which is about £18 million a year, there total reserves is about £14 million in which £11.8m of which comes from property, plant and equipment.
In 2012 the Queen cost us over £25 million, this don't take into account the cost of the up keep and running of the Royal Family residences, like Balmoral, Buckingham and other places.
Profits from the Royal Estate aka Crown Estates in 2012 came to £200 million.
In 2012 the Government pass "Sovereign Grant" which entitles the sitting monarch to the rough equivalent of 15% of revenues from The Crown Estate, The Crown Technically are in debt to the Government and have been since King George III, that debt just gets bigger and there is no interest to be paid on the debt.[/p][/quote]Until you provide sources for any of this, I'm just going to assume you made it up.
Amusingly, though, you've stated the cost of the Queen in 2012 was £25m, but the income from the Crown Estates was almost ten times this. Do you understand what any of these words mean?[/p][/quote]I do under stand but you don't, the Crown is only Beneficiary of the Crown Estates, and your not taking into account like the £500 million in tax payers money just to run the Security for the Queen, it sorts of wipes out the total income from the Crown Estates and put them in debt right away by £300 million which is a public tax burden that as to be paid.
No your picking and choosing bits and pieces, Oh by the way you can not get all the facts and figures from place, to find out the real in and outs of this then you need to listen to the yearly Q and A time by the house of Commons and Lords Select Committee that takes place every June/July in Parliament bench common room in the East Wingsouthy

Woolston ollie wrote:
Charlie Fucket
id rather **** my sister than any of those dossers from Derby road. I think you are only sticking up for them because you frequent the area regular to get your fix or to meet a woman, what is the going rate these days under a tenner i reckon. Also i see you dont put where you are from in our fantastic multi cultural city.
This country is going to the dogs and its dicks like you letting it

You should be in Chav street I'm sure that will be up soon

[quote][p][bold]Woolston ollie[/bold] wrote:
Charlie Fucket
id rather **** my sister than any of those dossers from Derby road. I think you are only sticking up for them because you frequent the area regular to get your fix or to meet a woman, what is the going rate these days under a tenner i reckon. Also i see you dont put where you are from in our fantastic multi cultural city.
This country is going to the dogs and its dicks like you letting it[/p][/quote]You should be in Chav street I'm sure that will be up soonRED & WHITE..RED & WHITE

Woolston ollie wrote:
Charlie Fucket
id rather **** my sister than any of those dossers from Derby road. I think you are only sticking up for them because you frequent the area regular to get your fix or to meet a woman, what is the going rate these days under a tenner i reckon. Also i see you dont put where you are from in our fantastic multi cultural city.
This country is going to the dogs and its dicks like you letting it

You should be in Chav street I'm sure that will be up soon

[quote][p][bold]Woolston ollie[/bold] wrote:
Charlie Fucket
id rather **** my sister than any of those dossers from Derby road. I think you are only sticking up for them because you frequent the area regular to get your fix or to meet a woman, what is the going rate these days under a tenner i reckon. Also i see you dont put where you are from in our fantastic multi cultural city.
This country is going to the dogs and its dicks like you letting it[/p][/quote]You should be in Chav street I'm sure that will be up soonRED & WHITE..RED & WHITE

Woolston ollie wrote:
Charlie Fucket
id rather **** my sister than any of those dossers from Derby road. I think you are only sticking up for them because you frequent the area regular to get your fix or to meet a woman, what is the going rate these days under a tenner i reckon. Also i see you dont put where you are from in our fantastic multi cultural city.
This country is going to the dogs and its dicks like you letting it

You should be in Chav street I'm sure that will be up soon

[quote][p][bold]Woolston ollie[/bold] wrote:
Charlie Fucket
id rather **** my sister than any of those dossers from Derby road. I think you are only sticking up for them because you frequent the area regular to get your fix or to meet a woman, what is the going rate these days under a tenner i reckon. Also i see you dont put where you are from in our fantastic multi cultural city.
This country is going to the dogs and its dicks like you letting it[/p][/quote]You should be in Chav street I'm sure that will be up soonRED & WHITE..RED & WHITE

Woolston ollie wrote:
Charlie Fucket
id rather **** my sister than any of those dossers from Derby road. I think you are only sticking up for them because you frequent the area regular to get your fix or to meet a woman, what is the going rate these days under a tenner i reckon. Also i see you dont put where you are from in our fantastic multi cultural city.
This country is going to the dogs and its dicks like you letting it

You should be in Chav street I'm sure that will be up soon

[quote][p][bold]Woolston ollie[/bold] wrote:
Charlie Fucket
id rather **** my sister than any of those dossers from Derby road. I think you are only sticking up for them because you frequent the area regular to get your fix or to meet a woman, what is the going rate these days under a tenner i reckon. Also i see you dont put where you are from in our fantastic multi cultural city.
This country is going to the dogs and its dicks like you letting it[/p][/quote]You should be in Chav street I'm sure that will be up soonRED & WHITE..RED & WHITE

Woolston ollie wrote:
Charlie Fucket
id rather **** my sister than any of those dossers from Derby road. I think you are only sticking up for them because you frequent the area regular to get your fix or to meet a woman, what is the going rate these days under a tenner i reckon. Also i see you dont put where you are from in our fantastic multi cultural city.
This country is going to the dogs and its dicks like you letting it

You should be in Chav street I'm sure that will be up soon

[quote][p][bold]Woolston ollie[/bold] wrote:
Charlie Fucket
id rather **** my sister than any of those dossers from Derby road. I think you are only sticking up for them because you frequent the area regular to get your fix or to meet a woman, what is the going rate these days under a tenner i reckon. Also i see you dont put where you are from in our fantastic multi cultural city.
This country is going to the dogs and its dicks like you letting it[/p][/quote]You should be in Chav street I'm sure that will be up soonRED & WHITE..RED & WHITE

Woolston ollie wrote:
Charlie Fucket
id rather **** my sister than any of those dossers from Derby road. I think you are only sticking up for them because you frequent the area regular to get your fix or to meet a woman, what is the going rate these days under a tenner i reckon. Also i see you dont put where you are from in our fantastic multi cultural city.
This country is going to the dogs and its dicks like you letting it

You should be in Chav street I'm sure that will be up soon

[quote][p][bold]Woolston ollie[/bold] wrote:
Charlie Fucket
id rather **** my sister than any of those dossers from Derby road. I think you are only sticking up for them because you frequent the area regular to get your fix or to meet a woman, what is the going rate these days under a tenner i reckon. Also i see you dont put where you are from in our fantastic multi cultural city.
This country is going to the dogs and its dicks like you letting it[/p][/quote]You should be in Chav street I'm sure that will be up soonRED & WHITE..RED & WHITE

Anyone notice how the extreme left pulled a fast one about 20 years ago by getting the gullible or BBC fellow travellers to call them "asylum seekers" instead of the vastly more accurate "illegal immigrants"? Well, if you did you kept very quiet about it. Fight back for our language now?

Anyone notice how the extreme left pulled a fast one about 20 years ago by getting the gullible or BBC fellow travellers to call them "asylum seekers" instead of the vastly more accurate "illegal immigrants"? Well, if you did you kept very quiet about it. Fight back for our language now?Dai Rear

Charlie fucket
You still have not stated which part of our fantastic city you are from maybe you are to ashamed to say.
I have not stopped laughing all day, you just have not got a clue whats going on under your nose.

Charlie fucket
You still have not stated which part of our fantastic city you are from maybe you are to ashamed to say.
I have not stopped laughing all day, you just have not got a clue whats going on under your nose.Woolston ollie

Woolston ollie wrote:
Charlie fucket
You still have not stated which part of our fantastic city you are from maybe you are to ashamed to say.
I have not stopped laughing all day, you just have not got a clue whats going on under your nose.

Why on earth would I bother telling you where I'm from? There's absolutely no answer I could provide that you wouldn't try and ridicule. Even Woolston. I've got a fuckofalot more of a clue than you do, moron. Simply believing everything UKIP tell you doesn't qualify you for much I'm afraid.

[quote][p][bold]Woolston ollie[/bold] wrote:
Charlie fucket
You still have not stated which part of our fantastic city you are from maybe you are to ashamed to say.
I have not stopped laughing all day, you just have not got a clue whats going on under your nose.[/p][/quote]Why on earth would I bother telling you where I'm from? There's absolutely no answer I could provide that you wouldn't try and ridicule. Even Woolston. I've got a fuckofalot more of a clue than you do, moron. Simply believing everything UKIP tell you doesn't qualify you for much I'm afraid.Charlie Bucket

Woolston ollie wrote:
Let them make the program then sit every MP in the country down and show them life in a inner city and what a absolute disgracful mess they have made of our country with their immigration policies. 47 different languages in one road shocking. then lets see how many are here to enhance our country and how many are here for the benifits they receive for doing absolutely nothing

In all seriousness, can you explain to me what exactly is so shocking about 47 languages in one road?

If you need to ask you really are clueless ..

[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Woolston ollie[/bold] wrote:
Let them make the program then sit every MP in the country down and show them life in a inner city and what a absolute disgracful mess they have made of our country with their immigration policies. 47 different languages in one road shocking. then lets see how many are here to enhance our country and how many are here for the benifits they receive for doing absolutely nothing[/p][/quote]In all seriousness, can you explain to me what exactly is so shocking about 47 languages in one road?[/p][/quote]If you need to ask you really are clueless ..warrens 76

Woolston ollie wrote:
Red &amp; white
Do you stutter i read it the first time.
I sincerely doubt that.

Oh i did and the other fours times as well.
Dai Rear
I agee whole heartedly. Watching TV programmes
On Benefits and proud a Romanian with eight children in Romania claming for them here and wanting to send £40,000 back home of my hard earned taxes.

And yes i do have a very good job, never been out of work never claimed benefits, tax and insure 3 cars pay all my council tax up front, never been in trouble with the law. have my own detached house two children both working
Lets see how many of your friends from other countries in ST Marys do that.

Woolston ollie wrote:
Red & white
Do you stutter i read it the first time.
I sincerely doubt that.
Oh i did and the other fours times as well.
Dai Rear
I agee whole heartedly. Watching TV programmes
On Benefits and proud a Romanian with eight children in Romania claming for them here and wanting to send £40,000 back home of my hard earned taxes.
And yes i do have a very good job, never been out of work never claimed benefits, tax and insure 3 cars pay all my council tax up front, never been in trouble with the law. have my own detached house two children both working
Lets see how many of your friends from other countries in ST Marys do that.Woolston ollie

Woolston ollie wrote:
Woolston ollie wrote:
Red &amp; white
Do you stutter i read it the first time.
I sincerely doubt that.

Oh i did and the other fours times as well.
Dai Rear
I agee whole heartedly. Watching TV programmes
On Benefits and proud a Romanian with eight children in Romania claming for them here and wanting to send £40,000 back home of my hard earned taxes.

And yes i do have a very good job, never been out of work never claimed benefits, tax and insure 3 cars pay all my council tax up front, never been in trouble with the law. have my own detached house two children both working
Lets see how many of your friends from other countries in ST Marys do that.

Ironic as Woolston isn’t classed an affluent area and has its own problems…you could put any street, village, town, city or county under a magnifying glass and you could pick holes in any thing….which is I suspect what this production company is going to do.

[quote][p][bold]Woolston ollie[/bold] wrote:
Woolston ollie wrote:
Red & white
Do you stutter i read it the first time.
I sincerely doubt that.
Oh i did and the other fours times as well.
Dai Rear
I agee whole heartedly. Watching TV programmes
On Benefits and proud a Romanian with eight children in Romania claming for them here and wanting to send £40,000 back home of my hard earned taxes.
And yes i do have a very good job, never been out of work never claimed benefits, tax and insure 3 cars pay all my council tax up front, never been in trouble with the law. have my own detached house two children both working
Lets see how many of your friends from other countries in ST Marys do that.[/p][/quote]Ironic as Woolston isn’t classed an affluent area and has its own problems…you could put any street, village, town, city or county under a magnifying glass and you could pick holes in any thing….which is I suspect what this production company is going to do.RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE

Ironic as Woolston isn’t classed an affluent area and has its own problems…you could put any street, village, town, city or county under a magnifying glass and you could pick holes in any thing….which is I suspect what this production company is going to do.

I agree but it will show what the common people of this country have to put up with on a daily basis. It will not show Southampton in a good light but it might just highlight whats is going on here that the so called goverment is saying is good for our country.
Which if we are all being honest is not.

Ironic as Woolston isn’t classed an affluent area and has its own problems…you could put any street, village, town, city or county under a magnifying glass and you could pick holes in any thing….which is I suspect what this production company is going to do.
I agree but it will show what the common people of this country have to put up with on a daily basis. It will not show Southampton in a good light but it might just highlight whats is going on here that the so called goverment is saying is good for our country.
Which if we are all being honest is not.Woolston ollie

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.

I get the point you're trying to make, but that's not actually the case. See: Crown Estate.

The cost of the royal family is 3 times as much to what is earned by the royal family

I, too, can simply make up numbers.

Not made up but real facts, just security for the Queen alone cost Tax payers in the region of £500 million a year, the Cost of keeping Buckingham Palace a year is over £700 million.
The Royal family income in one year is £1.5 million a year plus on top of that what tourism brings in which is about £18 million a year, there total reserves is about £14 million in which £11.8m of which comes from property, plant and equipment.
In 2012 the Queen cost us over £25 million, this don't take into account the cost of the up keep and running of the Royal Family residences, like Balmoral, Buckingham and other places.
Profits from the Royal Estate aka Crown Estates in 2012 came to £200 million.
In 2012 the Government pass &quot;Sovereign Grant" which entitles the sitting monarch to the rough equivalent of 15% of revenues from The Crown Estate, The Crown Technically are in debt to the Government and have been since King George III, that debt just gets bigger and there is no interest to be paid on the debt.

Until you provide sources for any of this, I'm just going to assume you made it up.

Amusingly, though, you've stated the cost of the Queen in 2012 was £25m, but the income from the Crown Estates was almost ten times this. Do you understand what any of these words mean?

I do under stand but you don't, the Crown is only Beneficiary of the Crown Estates, and your not taking into account like the £500 million in tax payers money just to run the Security for the Queen, it sorts of wipes out the total income from the Crown Estates and put them in debt right away by £300 million which is a public tax burden that as to be paid.
No your picking and choosing bits and pieces, Oh by the way you can not get all the facts and figures from place, to find out the real in and outs of this then you need to listen to the yearly Q and A time by the house of Commons and Lords Select Committee that takes place every June/July in Parliament bench common room in the East Wing

Southy, this debate has **** all to do with the Queen. Take your illiterate pedantry somewhere else.

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.[/p][/quote]I get the point you're trying to make, but that's not actually the case. See: Crown Estate.[/p][/quote]The cost of the royal family is 3 times as much to what is earned by the royal family[/p][/quote]I, too, can simply make up numbers.[/p][/quote]Not made up but real facts, just security for the Queen alone cost Tax payers in the region of £500 million a year, the Cost of keeping Buckingham Palace a year is over £700 million.
The Royal family income in one year is £1.5 million a year plus on top of that what tourism brings in which is about £18 million a year, there total reserves is about £14 million in which £11.8m of which comes from property, plant and equipment.
In 2012 the Queen cost us over £25 million, this don't take into account the cost of the up keep and running of the Royal Family residences, like Balmoral, Buckingham and other places.
Profits from the Royal Estate aka Crown Estates in 2012 came to £200 million.
In 2012 the Government pass "Sovereign Grant" which entitles the sitting monarch to the rough equivalent of 15% of revenues from The Crown Estate, The Crown Technically are in debt to the Government and have been since King George III, that debt just gets bigger and there is no interest to be paid on the debt.[/p][/quote]Until you provide sources for any of this, I'm just going to assume you made it up.
Amusingly, though, you've stated the cost of the Queen in 2012 was £25m, but the income from the Crown Estates was almost ten times this. Do you understand what any of these words mean?[/p][/quote]I do under stand but you don't, the Crown is only Beneficiary of the Crown Estates, and your not taking into account like the £500 million in tax payers money just to run the Security for the Queen, it sorts of wipes out the total income from the Crown Estates and put them in debt right away by £300 million which is a public tax burden that as to be paid.
No your picking and choosing bits and pieces, Oh by the way you can not get all the facts and figures from place, to find out the real in and outs of this then you need to listen to the yearly Q and A time by the house of Commons and Lords Select Committee that takes place every June/July in Parliament bench common room in the East Wing[/p][/quote]Southy, this debate has **** all to do with the Queen. Take your illiterate pedantry somewhere else.WalkingOnAWire

Lone Ranger. wrote:
This programme will end up being a platform, soapbox or bandwagon for some xenophobic group to pounce upon.
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As with Benefits Street it will be glorified to highlight and exaggerate any divisions that may exist between its residents. In this case, based around their cultures and origins.
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The proposed area has had its issues over the years but now seems to be a thriving community where many immigrant families have settled and raised families as British subjects.
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How disappointing it would be for this to be shown in a poor light as potentially this is what could happen

Do you see much xenophobia? Rather than irrationally fear foreigners many Brits are irrational about the risks of countries like Kenya & S Africa and will travel there indifferent to their being incredibly dangerous. Nor do we have an irrational fear of the foreigners in our midst. We may be rather timorous about Roumanian and Slovakian gipsies but can you call that irrational? If you're not careful when they're around you're very daft.

[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote:
This programme will end up being a platform, soapbox or bandwagon for some xenophobic group to pounce upon.
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As with Benefits Street it will be glorified to highlight and exaggerate any divisions that may exist between its residents. In this case, based around their cultures and origins.
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The proposed area has had its issues over the years but now seems to be a thriving community where many immigrant families have settled and raised families as British subjects.
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How disappointing it would be for this to be shown in a poor light as potentially this is what could happen[/p][/quote]Do you see much xenophobia? Rather than irrationally fear foreigners many Brits are irrational about the risks of countries like Kenya & S Africa and will travel there indifferent to their being incredibly dangerous. Nor do we have an irrational fear of the foreigners in our midst. We may be rather timorous about Roumanian and Slovakian gipsies but can you call that irrational? If you're not careful when they're around you're very daft.Dai Rear

Many 'living off benefits' are working people or part time working people paid a pittance - whilst the taxpayer supports business with healthy profits. Never ceases to amaze me - I too watched my parents struggle to pay their way and they both had good jobs - It would be nothing short of perverse if 60 odd years later I would wish for my grandchildren to struggle as did my parents - we are a very wealthy nation and yet we still want to make folk live a difficult existence - the point was that the struggle in the 1950s affected most if not all, - now their is a widening gap between the very wealthy and the have nots - -many of those who carried the country the middle salaried group are now within one months salary of losing all. Boasting about how well people did when struggling and suggesting they just got on with it - did our parents enjoy poverty? Of course not it is nonsense. When we as a society are turned against each other and talk of 'them' being a problem - just remember as technology takes more of the high paid jobs as it did in manufacturing many will join that group referred to as - them.

Many 'living off benefits' are working people or part time working people paid a pittance - whilst the taxpayer supports business with healthy profits. Never ceases to amaze me - I too watched my parents struggle to pay their way and they both had good jobs - It would be nothing short of perverse if 60 odd years later I would wish for my grandchildren to struggle as did my parents - we are a very wealthy nation and yet we still want to make folk live a difficult existence - the point was that the struggle in the 1950s affected most if not all, - now their is a widening gap between the very wealthy and the have nots - -many of those who carried the country the middle salaried group are now within one months salary of losing all. Boasting about how well people did when struggling and suggesting they just got on with it - did our parents enjoy poverty? Of course not it is nonsense. When we as a society are turned against each other and talk of 'them' being a problem - just remember as technology takes more of the high paid jobs as it did in manufacturing many will join that group referred to as - them.skeptik

Most media businesses are only interested in minting money, Ch 4 is doing the same. Serious quality programmes cost more to produce and cheepo productions also attract the type of people who won't apperciate or in some cases are not capable to understand the issues.

[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Abkhazsoyuz[/bold] wrote:
Will the programme have subtitles ?[/p][/quote]What would be the point? The intended audience can't read.[/p][/quote]Fully agree.
Most media businesses are only interested in minting money, Ch 4 is doing the same. Serious quality programmes cost more to produce and cheepo productions also attract the type of people who won't apperciate or in some cases are not capable to understand the issues.Paramjit Bahia

Most media businesses are only interested in minting money, Ch 4 is doing the same. Serious quality programmes cost more to produce and cheepo productions also attract the type of people who won't apperciate or in some cases are not capable to understand the issues.

How very perverse of them! They should always post a loss, shouldn't they?. And of course those who can't understand the issues, by which I take it you mean don't agree with the BBC/Labour Party line, should be disenfranchised. The great ideas keep coming, don't they? So that, in the end, we'd just have the BBC, the Pravda of the airwaves, supported very comfortably by a Poll Tax. Yes, that sounds perfect.

[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Abkhazsoyuz[/bold] wrote:
Will the programme have subtitles ?[/p][/quote]What would be the point? The intended audience can't read.[/p][/quote]Fully agree.
Most media businesses are only interested in minting money, Ch 4 is doing the same. Serious quality programmes cost more to produce and cheepo productions also attract the type of people who won't apperciate or in some cases are not capable to understand the issues.[/p][/quote]How very perverse of them! They should always post a loss, shouldn't they?. And of course those who can't understand the issues, by which I take it you mean don't agree with the BBC/Labour Party line, should be disenfranchised. The great ideas keep coming, don't they? So that, in the end, we'd just have the BBC, the Pravda of the airwaves, supported very comfortably by a Poll Tax. Yes, that sounds perfect.Dai Rear

[quote][p][bold]Mr E[/bold] wrote:
They should make a version of this in the New Forrest - it could be called bicycle street.[/p][/quote]Sorry but.....lol! Can you imagine the welly brigades outrage? Pitch it!! XxMillie0505

So Little Gdansk is going to be featured in a new CH 4 series on immigration, well it really doesn't come as no surprise, as long as there is English subtitles, there should be no objections or problems for anyone watching the programme. The only difference with Gdansk and Southampton is, they've got an ice rink. Everything else is much the same :)

So Little Gdansk is going to be featured in a new CH 4 series on immigration, well it really doesn't come as no surprise, as long as there is English subtitles, there should be no objections or problems for anyone watching the programme. The only difference with Gdansk and Southampton is, they've got an ice rink. Everything else is much the same :)THE BRICK

George4th wrote:
Southampton, as a Port, has always had this diversity in many shapes and sizes. My guess would be that most Southampton residents are descendents of immigrants (incl from Scotland, Wales and Ireland).

Seems to me a case of &quot;thou protests too much"!

What have Southampton to be ashamed of? Because that's the message being given out by the likes of Whitehead - we are ashamed!

Let the program be made. Let's see what life can be for some people in Southampton.

It's all very well cheering your local football team - what about cheering for Southampton?!

Where did you get the idea that Dr. Alan Whitehead is ashamed of Southampton? Your unfair mud is not likely to stick on our democratically elected Member of Parliament.

Fact, Alan is very proud of representing Southampton Test in Parliament.

Fact, before entering Parliament he spent many years as Leader of the Council ( In my view the best Leader of Council in recent times). He served that office because he cares about Southampton.

Fact, when young lad out of all the great universities in UK Alan Whitehead opted for Southampton and after gaining his doctorate made the city his permanent home.

Surely that should be sufficient proof that Alan is not ashamed of Southampton but is proud of the City and Saints, whom he supports.

Whitehead has only asked the views of his constituents regarding what they think, so that if situation arises as responsible MP he can be prepared to represent them with best of his ability.

I may not be keen on NuLabour but when the MP is doing a good job he deserves apperciation, not politically biased mud.

[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote:
Southampton, as a Port, has always had this diversity in many shapes and sizes. My guess would be that most Southampton residents are descendents of immigrants (incl from Scotland, Wales and Ireland).
Seems to me a case of "thou protests too much"!
What have Southampton to be ashamed of? Because that's the message being given out by the likes of Whitehead - we are ashamed!
Let the program be made. Let's see what life can be for some people in Southampton.
It's all very well cheering your local football team - what about cheering for Southampton?![/p][/quote]Where did you get the idea that Dr. Alan Whitehead is ashamed of Southampton? Your unfair mud is not likely to stick on our democratically elected Member of Parliament.
Fact, Alan is very proud of representing Southampton Test in Parliament.
Fact, before entering Parliament he spent many years as Leader of the Council ( In my view the best Leader of Council in recent times). He served that office because he cares about Southampton.
Fact, when young lad out of all the great universities in UK Alan Whitehead opted for Southampton and after gaining his doctorate made the city his permanent home.
Surely that should be sufficient proof that Alan is not ashamed of Southampton but is proud of the City and Saints, whom he supports.
Whitehead has only asked the views of his constituents regarding what they think, so that if situation arises as responsible MP he can be prepared to represent them with best of his ability.
I may not be keen on NuLabour but when the MP is doing a good job he deserves apperciation, not politically biased mud.Paramjit Bahia

Is the Birmingham Schools "Trojan Horse" "diverse" or is it "multicultural"? Is there any reason we should continue to use these 2 absurd words, coined by someone of the same mindset as Kim Philby?
Reclaim our language!

Is the Birmingham Schools "Trojan Horse" "diverse" or is it "multicultural"? Is there any reason we should continue to use these 2 absurd words, coined by someone of the same mindset as Kim Philby?
Reclaim our language!Dai Rear

They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.

Oh sod off.

Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.

[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote:
Love Productions?
An appropriately named company?[/p][/quote]They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.[/p][/quote]Oh sod off.[/p][/quote]Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.Paramjit Bahia

Woolston ollie wrote:
Let them make the program then sit every MP in the country down and show them life in a inner city and what a absolute disgracful mess they have made of our country with their immigration policies. 47 different languages in one road shocking. then lets see how many are here to enhance our country and how many are here for the benifits they receive for doing absolutely nothing

In all seriousness, can you explain to me what exactly is so shocking about 47 languages in one road?

People able to speak and understand more languages than Woolston ollie, and get on well as a community of one human race

[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Woolston ollie[/bold] wrote:
Let them make the program then sit every MP in the country down and show them life in a inner city and what a absolute disgracful mess they have made of our country with their immigration policies. 47 different languages in one road shocking. then lets see how many are here to enhance our country and how many are here for the benifits they receive for doing absolutely nothing[/p][/quote]In all seriousness, can you explain to me what exactly is so shocking about 47 languages in one road?[/p][/quote]People able to speak and understand more languages than Woolston ollie, and get on well as a community of one human raceParamjit Bahia

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.

Presumably you're referring to our Royal Family - the most famous family in the world who bring billions of pounds to the country through tourism, are wonderful representatives for our country and I'm proud to have our 88 year old Queen as our figurehead. The Queen has devoted her life to our country and works almost every day of the year.

Not quite the same as unskilled immigrants motivated to come to the UK purely because of our benefit system, planning a life funded by taxpayers and giving absolutely nothing back.

How ill informed you are, tut tut on your racist self

[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.[/p][/quote]Presumably you're referring to our Royal Family - the most famous family in the world who bring billions of pounds to the country through tourism, are wonderful representatives for our country and I'm proud to have our 88 year old Queen as our figurehead. The Queen has devoted her life to our country and works almost every day of the year.
Not quite the same as unskilled immigrants motivated to come to the UK purely because of our benefit system, planning a life funded by taxpayers and giving absolutely nothing back.[/p][/quote]How ill informed you are, tut tut on your racist selfthesouth

LadySam wrote:
How about a programme about nice non-benefit scrounging people? We do exist you know. Myself and my husband, both from council estates, worked hard to better ourselves and now have a nice house, two great children who work equally hard at school and will pass on our good values. We aren't chavs, don't own staffies, get drunk in the park or make nuisances of ourselves. Our parents didn't have two pennies to rub together sometimes but one thing they did instill in us was self-worth and a good work ethic. But hey focus on the useless and idle why don't you?

That's a very snobbish take on this considering your background.... You said your self you started off in a council estate, we'll let them there's 'start off' too. Who are you to call them useless. A lot of those people work ridiculous hours to give the next generation a chance. Most of the houses down there are rented / privately owned, not council owned.

[quote][p][bold]LadySam[/bold] wrote:
How about a programme about nice non-benefit scrounging people? We do exist you know. Myself and my husband, both from council estates, worked hard to better ourselves and now have a nice house, two great children who work equally hard at school and will pass on our good values. We aren't chavs, don't own staffies, get drunk in the park or make nuisances of ourselves. Our parents didn't have two pennies to rub together sometimes but one thing they did instill in us was self-worth and a good work ethic. But hey focus on the useless and idle why don't you?[/p][/quote]That's a very snobbish take on this considering your background.... You said your self you started off in a council estate, we'll let them there's 'start off' too. Who are you to call them useless. A lot of those people work ridiculous hours to give the next generation a chance. Most of the houses down there are rented / privately owned, not council owned.thesouth

THE BRICK wrote:
So Little Gdansk is going to be featured in a new CH 4 series on immigration, well it really doesn't come as no surprise, as long as there is English subtitles, there should be no objections or problems for anyone watching the programme. The only difference with Gdansk and Southampton is, they've got an ice rink. Everything else is much the same :)

It's funny I don't remember Southampton being instrumental in bringing down the Iron Curtain.

[quote][p][bold]THE BRICK[/bold] wrote:
So Little Gdansk is going to be featured in a new CH 4 series on immigration, well it really doesn't come as no surprise, as long as there is English subtitles, there should be no objections or problems for anyone watching the programme. The only difference with Gdansk and Southampton is, they've got an ice rink. Everything else is much the same :)[/p][/quote]It's funny I don't remember Southampton being instrumental in bringing down the Iron Curtain.bigfella777

[quote][p][bold]Millie0505[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Mr E[/bold] wrote:
They should make a version of this in the New Forrest - it could be called bicycle street.[/p][/quote]Sorry but.....lol! Can you imagine the welly brigades outrage? Pitch it!! Xx[/p][/quote]Hehehe, Country File meets Armageddon - where's my tractor?Beer Monster

George4th wrote:
Southampton, as a Port, has always had this diversity in many shapes and sizes. My guess would be that most Southampton residents are descendents of immigrants (incl from Scotland, Wales and Ireland).

Seems to me a case of &quot;thou protests too much"!

What have Southampton to be ashamed of? Because that's the message being given out by the likes of Whitehead - we are ashamed!

Let the program be made. Let's see what life can be for some people in Southampton.

It's all very well cheering your local football team - what about cheering for Southampton?!

Where did you get the idea that Dr. Alan Whitehead is ashamed of Southampton? Your unfair mud is not likely to stick on our democratically elected Member of Parliament.

Fact, Alan is very proud of representing Southampton Test in Parliament.

Fact, before entering Parliament he spent many years as Leader of the Council ( In my view the best Leader of Council in recent times). He served that office because he cares about Southampton.

Fact, when young lad out of all the great universities in UK Alan Whitehead opted for Southampton and after gaining his doctorate made the city his permanent home.

Surely that should be sufficient proof that Alan is not ashamed of Southampton but is proud of the City and Saints, whom he supports.

Whitehead has only asked the views of his constituents regarding what they think, so that if situation arises as responsible MP he can be prepared to represent them with best of his ability.

I may not be keen on NuLabour but when the MP is doing a good job he deserves apperciation, not politically biased mud.

Paramjit

Call me a cynic but!

"Fact, before entering Parliament he spent many years as Leader of the Council"
As a stepping stone to greater things!

"He served that office because he cares about Southampton"
He served because it was route one to being an MP!
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"Fact, when young lad out of all the great universities in UK Alan Whitehead opted for Southampton and after gaining his doctorate made the city his permanent home. "
He studied Politics, was immersed in Labour Politics and having realised that Southampton was a hotbed of Unionism/Labour, he saw an opportunity!

"Surely that should be sufficient proof that Alan is not ashamed of Southampton but is proud of the City and Saints, whom he supports"
No!

"Whitehead has only asked the views of his constituents regarding what they think, so that if situation arises as responsible MP he can be prepared to represent them with best of his ability."

Uhm!

"I may not be keen on NuLabour but when the MP is doing a good job he deserves apperciation, not politically biased mud"
Where was the mud?! Admittedly saying "the likes of Whitehead" was slightly incorrect but even you know it wasn't aimed at just him! I could see a bandwagon and he and others have jumped on it!
At no time did I make it political! You did!

However, as you brought the subject up, as an MP I think he has not been very good for Southampton - just my opinion.

I'm always conscience of your political background and your excellent commend of the English language and I am always careful in my replies to you. You are a fan of Alan Whitehead and that's to be commended. However, you were wrong to see a political motive in my comment.

[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote:
Southampton, as a Port, has always had this diversity in many shapes and sizes. My guess would be that most Southampton residents are descendents of immigrants (incl from Scotland, Wales and Ireland).
Seems to me a case of "thou protests too much"!
What have Southampton to be ashamed of? Because that's the message being given out by the likes of Whitehead - we are ashamed!
Let the program be made. Let's see what life can be for some people in Southampton.
It's all very well cheering your local football team - what about cheering for Southampton?![/p][/quote]Where did you get the idea that Dr. Alan Whitehead is ashamed of Southampton? Your unfair mud is not likely to stick on our democratically elected Member of Parliament.
Fact, Alan is very proud of representing Southampton Test in Parliament.
Fact, before entering Parliament he spent many years as Leader of the Council ( In my view the best Leader of Council in recent times). He served that office because he cares about Southampton.
Fact, when young lad out of all the great universities in UK Alan Whitehead opted for Southampton and after gaining his doctorate made the city his permanent home.
Surely that should be sufficient proof that Alan is not ashamed of Southampton but is proud of the City and Saints, whom he supports.
Whitehead has only asked the views of his constituents regarding what they think, so that if situation arises as responsible MP he can be prepared to represent them with best of his ability.
I may not be keen on NuLabour but when the MP is doing a good job he deserves apperciation, not politically biased mud.[/p][/quote]Paramjit
Call me a cynic but!
"Fact, before entering Parliament he spent many years as Leader of the Council"
As a stepping stone to greater things!
"He served that office because he cares about Southampton"
He served because it was route one to being an MP!
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"Fact, when young lad out of all the great universities in UK Alan Whitehead opted for Southampton and after gaining his doctorate made the city his permanent home. "
He studied Politics, was immersed in Labour Politics and having realised that Southampton was a hotbed of Unionism/Labour, he saw an opportunity!
"Surely that should be sufficient proof that Alan is not ashamed of Southampton but is proud of the City and Saints, whom he supports"
No!
"Whitehead has only asked the views of his constituents regarding what they think, so that if situation arises as responsible MP he can be prepared to represent them with best of his ability."
Uhm!
"I may not be keen on NuLabour but when the MP is doing a good job he deserves apperciation, not politically biased mud"
Where was the mud?! Admittedly saying "the likes of Whitehead" was slightly incorrect but even you know it wasn't aimed at just him! I could see a bandwagon and he and others have jumped on it!
At no time did I make it political! You did!
However, as you brought the subject up, as an MP I think he has not been very good for Southampton - just my opinion.
I'm always conscience of your political background and your excellent commend of the English language and I am always careful in my replies to you. You are a fan of Alan Whitehead and that's to be commended. However, you were wrong to see a political motive in my comment.George4th

They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.

Oh sod off.

Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.

Noam Chomsky said Quote
"It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"

[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote:
Love Productions?
An appropriately named company?[/p][/quote]They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.[/p][/quote]Oh sod off.[/p][/quote]Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.[/p][/quote]Noam Chomsky said Quote
"It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"southy

George4th wrote:
Southampton, as a Port, has always had this diversity in many shapes and sizes. My guess would be that most Southampton residents are descendents of immigrants (incl from Scotland, Wales and Ireland).

Seems to me a case of &quot;thou protests too much"!

What have Southampton to be ashamed of? Because that's the message being given out by the likes of Whitehead - we are ashamed!

Let the program be made. Let's see what life can be for some people in Southampton.

It's all very well cheering your local football team - what about cheering for Southampton?!

Where did you get the idea that Dr. Alan Whitehead is ashamed of Southampton? Your unfair mud is not likely to stick on our democratically elected Member of Parliament.

Fact, Alan is very proud of representing Southampton Test in Parliament.

Fact, before entering Parliament he spent many years as Leader of the Council ( In my view the best Leader of Council in recent times). He served that office because he cares about Southampton.

Fact, when young lad out of all the great universities in UK Alan Whitehead opted for Southampton and after gaining his doctorate made the city his permanent home.

Surely that should be sufficient proof that Alan is not ashamed of Southampton but is proud of the City and Saints, whom he supports.

Whitehead has only asked the views of his constituents regarding what they think, so that if situation arises as responsible MP he can be prepared to represent them with best of his ability.

I may not be keen on NuLabour but when the MP is doing a good job he deserves apperciation, not politically biased mud.

Paramjit

Call me a cynic but!

"Fact, before entering Parliament he spent many years as Leader of the Council"
As a stepping stone to greater things!

"He served that office because he cares about Southampton"
He served because it was route one to being an MP!
.
"Fact, when young lad out of all the great universities in UK Alan Whitehead opted for Southampton and after gaining his doctorate made the city his permanent home. "
He studied Politics, was immersed in Labour Politics and having realised that Southampton was a hotbed of Unionism/Labour, he saw an opportunity!

"Surely that should be sufficient proof that Alan is not ashamed of Southampton but is proud of the City and Saints, whom he supports"
No!

"Whitehead has only asked the views of his constituents regarding what they think, so that if situation arises as responsible MP he can be prepared to represent them with best of his ability."

Uhm!

"I may not be keen on NuLabour but when the MP is doing a good job he deserves apperciation, not politically biased mud"
Where was the mud?! Admittedly saying "the likes of Whitehead" was slightly incorrect but even you know it wasn't aimed at just him! I could see a bandwagon and he and others have jumped on it!
At no time did I make it political! You did!

However, as you brought the subject up, as an MP I think he has not been very good for Southampton - just my opinion.

I'm always conscience of your political background and your excellent commend of the English language and I am always careful in my replies to you. You are a fan of Alan Whitehead and that's to be commended. However, you were wrong to see a political motive in my comment.

George4th, sorry to say but you have got your facts wrong, especially about Alan Whitehead in his younger days having worked out ambitious plan of coming to Southampton Uni because city was Labour and Trade Union stronghold, which will suit him in the long run.

Fact when student in University of Southampton Alan was active member of the Liberal Party.

My apology for puncturing your balloon full of fiction.

[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote:
Southampton, as a Port, has always had this diversity in many shapes and sizes. My guess would be that most Southampton residents are descendents of immigrants (incl from Scotland, Wales and Ireland).
Seems to me a case of "thou protests too much"!
What have Southampton to be ashamed of? Because that's the message being given out by the likes of Whitehead - we are ashamed!
Let the program be made. Let's see what life can be for some people in Southampton.
It's all very well cheering your local football team - what about cheering for Southampton?![/p][/quote]Where did you get the idea that Dr. Alan Whitehead is ashamed of Southampton? Your unfair mud is not likely to stick on our democratically elected Member of Parliament.
Fact, Alan is very proud of representing Southampton Test in Parliament.
Fact, before entering Parliament he spent many years as Leader of the Council ( In my view the best Leader of Council in recent times). He served that office because he cares about Southampton.
Fact, when young lad out of all the great universities in UK Alan Whitehead opted for Southampton and after gaining his doctorate made the city his permanent home.
Surely that should be sufficient proof that Alan is not ashamed of Southampton but is proud of the City and Saints, whom he supports.
Whitehead has only asked the views of his constituents regarding what they think, so that if situation arises as responsible MP he can be prepared to represent them with best of his ability.
I may not be keen on NuLabour but when the MP is doing a good job he deserves apperciation, not politically biased mud.[/p][/quote]Paramjit
Call me a cynic but!
"Fact, before entering Parliament he spent many years as Leader of the Council"
As a stepping stone to greater things!
"He served that office because he cares about Southampton"
He served because it was route one to being an MP!
.
"Fact, when young lad out of all the great universities in UK Alan Whitehead opted for Southampton and after gaining his doctorate made the city his permanent home. "
He studied Politics, was immersed in Labour Politics and having realised that Southampton was a hotbed of Unionism/Labour, he saw an opportunity!
"Surely that should be sufficient proof that Alan is not ashamed of Southampton but is proud of the City and Saints, whom he supports"
No!
"Whitehead has only asked the views of his constituents regarding what they think, so that if situation arises as responsible MP he can be prepared to represent them with best of his ability."
Uhm!
"I may not be keen on NuLabour but when the MP is doing a good job he deserves apperciation, not politically biased mud"
Where was the mud?! Admittedly saying "the likes of Whitehead" was slightly incorrect but even you know it wasn't aimed at just him! I could see a bandwagon and he and others have jumped on it!
At no time did I make it political! You did!
However, as you brought the subject up, as an MP I think he has not been very good for Southampton - just my opinion.
I'm always conscience of your political background and your excellent commend of the English language and I am always careful in my replies to you. You are a fan of Alan Whitehead and that's to be commended. However, you were wrong to see a political motive in my comment.[/p][/quote]George4th, sorry to say but you have got your facts wrong, especially about Alan Whitehead in his younger days having worked out ambitious plan of coming to Southampton Uni because city was Labour and Trade Union stronghold, which will suit him in the long run.
Fact when student in University of Southampton Alan was active member of the Liberal Party.
My apology for puncturing your balloon full of fiction.Paramjit Bahia

They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.

Oh sod off.

Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.

Noam Chomsky said Quote
&quot;It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"

Perhaps that could be the quote that gets Tusc it's first election win!

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote:
Love Productions?
An appropriately named company?[/p][/quote]They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.[/p][/quote]Oh sod off.[/p][/quote]Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.[/p][/quote]Noam Chomsky said Quote
"It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"[/p][/quote]Perhaps that could be the quote that gets Tusc it's first election win!Torchie1

They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.

Oh sod off.

Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.

Noam Chomsky said Quote
&quot;It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"

Perhaps that could be the quote that gets Tusc it's first election win!

Chomsky = "new left" What's "new" about the left?. Same old tired rubbish. Same old authoritarian cant. TUSC- Trade Union and Soviet Communism. What is "new" about that?

[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote:
Love Productions?
An appropriately named company?[/p][/quote]They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.[/p][/quote]Oh sod off.[/p][/quote]Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.[/p][/quote]Noam Chomsky said Quote
"It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"[/p][/quote]Perhaps that could be the quote that gets Tusc it's first election win![/p][/quote]Chomsky = "new left" What's "new" about the left?. Same old tired rubbish. Same old authoritarian cant. TUSC- Trade Union and Soviet Communism. What is "new" about that?Dai Rear

George4th wrote:
Southampton, as a Port, has always had this diversity in many shapes and sizes. My guess would be that most Southampton residents are descendents of immigrants (incl from Scotland, Wales and Ireland).

Seems to me a case of &quot;thou protests too much"!

What have Southampton to be ashamed of? Because that's the message being given out by the likes of Whitehead - we are ashamed!

Let the program be made. Let's see what life can be for some people in Southampton.

It's all very well cheering your local football team - what about cheering for Southampton?!

Where did you get the idea that Dr. Alan Whitehead is ashamed of Southampton? Your unfair mud is not likely to stick on our democratically elected Member of Parliament.

Fact, Alan is very proud of representing Southampton Test in Parliament.

Fact, before entering Parliament he spent many years as Leader of the Council ( In my view the best Leader of Council in recent times). He served that office because he cares about Southampton.

Fact, when young lad out of all the great universities in UK Alan Whitehead opted for Southampton and after gaining his doctorate made the city his permanent home.

Surely that should be sufficient proof that Alan is not ashamed of Southampton but is proud of the City and Saints, whom he supports.

Whitehead has only asked the views of his constituents regarding what they think, so that if situation arises as responsible MP he can be prepared to represent them with best of his ability.

I may not be keen on NuLabour but when the MP is doing a good job he deserves apperciation, not politically biased mud.

Paramjit

Call me a cynic but!

"Fact, before entering Parliament he spent many years as Leader of the Council"
As a stepping stone to greater things!

"He served that office because he cares about Southampton"
He served because it was route one to being an MP!
.
"Fact, when young lad out of all the great universities in UK Alan Whitehead opted for Southampton and after gaining his doctorate made the city his permanent home. "
He studied Politics, was immersed in Labour Politics and having realised that Southampton was a hotbed of Unionism/Labour, he saw an opportunity!

"Surely that should be sufficient proof that Alan is not ashamed of Southampton but is proud of the City and Saints, whom he supports"
No!

"Whitehead has only asked the views of his constituents regarding what they think, so that if situation arises as responsible MP he can be prepared to represent them with best of his ability."

Uhm!

"I may not be keen on NuLabour but when the MP is doing a good job he deserves apperciation, not politically biased mud"
Where was the mud?! Admittedly saying "the likes of Whitehead" was slightly incorrect but even you know it wasn't aimed at just him! I could see a bandwagon and he and others have jumped on it!
At no time did I make it political! You did!

However, as you brought the subject up, as an MP I think he has not been very good for Southampton - just my opinion.

I'm always conscience of your political background and your excellent commend of the English language and I am always careful in my replies to you. You are a fan of Alan Whitehead and that's to be commended. However, you were wrong to see a political motive in my comment.

George4th, sorry to say but you have got your facts wrong, especially about Alan Whitehead in his younger days having worked out ambitious plan of coming to Southampton Uni because city was Labour and Trade Union stronghold, which will suit him in the long run.

Fact when student in University of Southampton Alan was active member of the Liberal Party.

My apology for puncturing your balloon full of fiction.

Surely not MORE wrong facts .......
.
After me correcting him yesterday ...... then you again today ...... he doesnt seem quite so clued up as he thinks he is .....
.
Flaws in his propaganda post ...... again

[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote:
Southampton, as a Port, has always had this diversity in many shapes and sizes. My guess would be that most Southampton residents are descendents of immigrants (incl from Scotland, Wales and Ireland).
Seems to me a case of "thou protests too much"!
What have Southampton to be ashamed of? Because that's the message being given out by the likes of Whitehead - we are ashamed!
Let the program be made. Let's see what life can be for some people in Southampton.
It's all very well cheering your local football team - what about cheering for Southampton?![/p][/quote]Where did you get the idea that Dr. Alan Whitehead is ashamed of Southampton? Your unfair mud is not likely to stick on our democratically elected Member of Parliament.
Fact, Alan is very proud of representing Southampton Test in Parliament.
Fact, before entering Parliament he spent many years as Leader of the Council ( In my view the best Leader of Council in recent times). He served that office because he cares about Southampton.
Fact, when young lad out of all the great universities in UK Alan Whitehead opted for Southampton and after gaining his doctorate made the city his permanent home.
Surely that should be sufficient proof that Alan is not ashamed of Southampton but is proud of the City and Saints, whom he supports.
Whitehead has only asked the views of his constituents regarding what they think, so that if situation arises as responsible MP he can be prepared to represent them with best of his ability.
I may not be keen on NuLabour but when the MP is doing a good job he deserves apperciation, not politically biased mud.[/p][/quote]Paramjit
Call me a cynic but!
"Fact, before entering Parliament he spent many years as Leader of the Council"
As a stepping stone to greater things!
"He served that office because he cares about Southampton"
He served because it was route one to being an MP!
.
"Fact, when young lad out of all the great universities in UK Alan Whitehead opted for Southampton and after gaining his doctorate made the city his permanent home. "
He studied Politics, was immersed in Labour Politics and having realised that Southampton was a hotbed of Unionism/Labour, he saw an opportunity!
"Surely that should be sufficient proof that Alan is not ashamed of Southampton but is proud of the City and Saints, whom he supports"
No!
"Whitehead has only asked the views of his constituents regarding what they think, so that if situation arises as responsible MP he can be prepared to represent them with best of his ability."
Uhm!
"I may not be keen on NuLabour but when the MP is doing a good job he deserves apperciation, not politically biased mud"
Where was the mud?! Admittedly saying "the likes of Whitehead" was slightly incorrect but even you know it wasn't aimed at just him! I could see a bandwagon and he and others have jumped on it!
At no time did I make it political! You did!
However, as you brought the subject up, as an MP I think he has not been very good for Southampton - just my opinion.
I'm always conscience of your political background and your excellent commend of the English language and I am always careful in my replies to you. You are a fan of Alan Whitehead and that's to be commended. However, you were wrong to see a political motive in my comment.[/p][/quote]George4th, sorry to say but you have got your facts wrong, especially about Alan Whitehead in his younger days having worked out ambitious plan of coming to Southampton Uni because city was Labour and Trade Union stronghold, which will suit him in the long run.
Fact when student in University of Southampton Alan was active member of the Liberal Party.
My apology for puncturing your balloon full of fiction.[/p][/quote]Surely not MORE wrong facts .......
.
After me correcting him yesterday ...... then you again today ...... he doesnt seem quite so clued up as he thinks he is .....
.
Flaws in his propaganda post ...... againLone Ranger.

They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.

Oh sod off.

Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.

Noam Chomsky said Quote
&quot;It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"

The correct quote is: -
“It’s pretty ironic that the so-called ‘least advanced’ people are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us, while the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are trying to drive the society to destruction.”
You really should learn to cut and paste.

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote:
Love Productions?
An appropriately named company?[/p][/quote]They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.[/p][/quote]Oh sod off.[/p][/quote]Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.[/p][/quote]Noam Chomsky said Quote
"It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"[/p][/quote]The correct quote is: -
“It’s pretty ironic that the so-called ‘least advanced’ people are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us, while the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are trying to drive the society to destruction.”
You really should learn to cut and paste.freefinker

Ninety three comments on this topic and not one from a resident of Derby Road.

I suppose none of the alleged fourty seven languages spoken there include English. Either that or none of the residents have internet access or read the Echo.

You would have thought at least one resident would have been on here defending the area they chose to call home.
Or perhaps they don't think of Southampton as their home.

Says it all really :)

Ninety three comments on this topic and not one from a resident of Derby Road.
I suppose none of the alleged fourty seven languages spoken there include English. Either that or none of the residents have internet access or read the Echo.
You would have thought at least one resident would have been on here defending the area they chose to call home.
Or perhaps they don't think of Southampton as their home.
Says it all really :)dango

They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.

Oh sod off.

Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.

Noam Chomsky said Quote
&quot;It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"

The correct quote is: -
“It’s pretty ironic that the so-called ‘least advanced’ people are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us, while the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are trying to drive the society to destruction.”
You really should learn to cut and paste.

That was from memory, just shows how close i really am.

[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote:
Love Productions?
An appropriately named company?[/p][/quote]They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.[/p][/quote]Oh sod off.[/p][/quote]Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.[/p][/quote]Noam Chomsky said Quote
"It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"[/p][/quote]The correct quote is: -
“It’s pretty ironic that the so-called ‘least advanced’ people are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us, while the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are trying to drive the society to destruction.”
You really should learn to cut and paste.[/p][/quote]That was from memory, just shows how close i really am.southy

theamazingrob wrote:
It has potential to be a great platform to highlight the diversity in Southampton and encourage mutual understanding and respect of different cultures, lifestyles and problems residents face. BUT being a Channel 4 program its most likely going to be twisted into fulfilling an &quot;entertaining" agenda that would most likely damage community relations.

I agree with Rob. If the programme were being made by the residents of Derby Road I think it could be an amazing platform to show how much the area has progressed in the last 30 years. But having watched Benefits Street, I think that the programme makers will be waiting and watching for anything that appeases the 'Daily Mail' brigade and makes working class and people on benefits looks like scum, whether they are or not.

[quote][p][bold]theamazingrob[/bold] wrote:
It has potential to be a great platform to highlight the diversity in Southampton and encourage mutual understanding and respect of different cultures, lifestyles and problems residents face. BUT being a Channel 4 program its most likely going to be twisted into fulfilling an "entertaining" agenda that would most likely damage community relations.[/p][/quote]I agree with Rob. If the programme were being made by the residents of Derby Road I think it could be an amazing platform to show how much the area has progressed in the last 30 years. But having watched Benefits Street, I think that the programme makers will be waiting and watching for anything that appeases the 'Daily Mail' brigade and makes working class and people on benefits looks like scum, whether they are or not.lea1973nne

They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.

Oh sod off.

Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.

Noam Chomsky said Quote
&quot;It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"

Perhaps that could be the quote that gets Tusc it's first election win!

Chomsky = "new left" What's "new" about the left?. Same old tired rubbish. Same old authoritarian cant. TUSC- Trade Union and Soviet Communism. What is "new" about that?

Our local far extreme right winger still learning, now let me correct you, apart from the TUSC as nothing in common with Right Wing Communism, Socialism is not authoritarian it is very democratic, its was because of left wing thinking people you and others are allowed to vote, if right wing had it's way you would not be allowed to vote at the moment the right wing are trying to put people off from voting and its working, they know the more people vote the less of a strangle hold they will have as they will not be in power so much. oh by the way Chomsky is not Left wing nor is he Right wing he is Center ground

[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote:
Love Productions?
An appropriately named company?[/p][/quote]They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.[/p][/quote]Oh sod off.[/p][/quote]Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.[/p][/quote]Noam Chomsky said Quote
"It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"[/p][/quote]Perhaps that could be the quote that gets Tusc it's first election win![/p][/quote]Chomsky = "new left" What's "new" about the left?. Same old tired rubbish. Same old authoritarian cant. TUSC- Trade Union and Soviet Communism. What is "new" about that?[/p][/quote]Our local far extreme right winger still learning, now let me correct you, apart from the TUSC as nothing in common with Right Wing Communism, Socialism is not authoritarian it is very democratic, its was because of left wing thinking people you and others are allowed to vote, if right wing had it's way you would not be allowed to vote at the moment the right wing are trying to put people off from voting and its working, they know the more people vote the less of a strangle hold they will have as they will not be in power so much. oh by the way Chomsky is not Left wing nor is he Right wing he is Center groundsouthy

They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.

Oh sod off.

Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.

Noam Chomsky said Quote
&quot;It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"

The correct quote is: -
“It’s pretty ironic that the so-called ‘least advanced’ people are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us, while the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are trying to drive the society to destruction.”
You really should learn to cut and paste.

That was from memory, just shows how close i really am.

No it wasn't. You're in a hole; stop digging.

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote:
Love Productions?
An appropriately named company?[/p][/quote]They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.[/p][/quote]Oh sod off.[/p][/quote]Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.[/p][/quote]Noam Chomsky said Quote
"It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"[/p][/quote]The correct quote is: -
“It’s pretty ironic that the so-called ‘least advanced’ people are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us, while the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are trying to drive the society to destruction.”
You really should learn to cut and paste.[/p][/quote]That was from memory, just shows how close i really am.[/p][/quote]No it wasn't. You're in a hole; stop digging.freefinker

treehamer wrote:
I've always been so proud to live in a city with such a rich and diverse population. St. Marys has long been a multicultural area, so why home in on it now as &quot;Immigration Street"? Watch C4 tear it to shreds... I hope it doesn't happen.

"Rich and diverse population" Where did you read that ?

[quote][p][bold]treehamer[/bold] wrote:
I've always been so proud to live in a city with such a rich and diverse population. St. Marys has long been a multicultural area, so why home in on it now as "Immigration Street"? Watch C4 tear it to shreds... I hope it doesn't happen.[/p][/quote]"Rich and diverse population" Where did you read that ?gristle

Most of who live in this area are decendants of immigrants who settled here years ago. They are now born and bred British citizens.

If they want to make a programme about immigrants go to Shirley.

Most of who live in this area are decendants of immigrants who settled here years ago. They are now born and bred British citizens.
If they want to make a programme about immigrants go to Shirley.wwozzer

They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.

Oh sod off.

Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.

Noam Chomsky said Quote
&quot;It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"

Perhaps that could be the quote that gets Tusc it's first election win!

Chomsky = "new left" What's "new" about the left?. Same old tired rubbish. Same old authoritarian cant. TUSC- Trade Union and Soviet Communism. What is "new" about that?

Our local far extreme right winger still learning, now let me correct you, apart from the TUSC as nothing in common with Right Wing Communism, Socialism is not authoritarian it is very democratic, its was because of left wing thinking people you and others are allowed to vote, if right wing had it's way you would not be allowed to vote at the moment the right wing are trying to put people off from voting and its working, they know the more people vote the less of a strangle hold they will have as they will not be in power so much. oh by the way Chomsky is not Left wing nor is he Right wing he is Center ground

Another entertaining post from the mouthpiece of the fastest growing political party (self proclaimed) that has never got within sniffing distance of electoral victory in any area outside of the empty space between poor old Southy's ears.

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote:
Love Productions?
An appropriately named company?[/p][/quote]They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.[/p][/quote]Oh sod off.[/p][/quote]Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.[/p][/quote]Noam Chomsky said Quote
"It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"[/p][/quote]Perhaps that could be the quote that gets Tusc it's first election win![/p][/quote]Chomsky = "new left" What's "new" about the left?. Same old tired rubbish. Same old authoritarian cant. TUSC- Trade Union and Soviet Communism. What is "new" about that?[/p][/quote]Our local far extreme right winger still learning, now let me correct you, apart from the TUSC as nothing in common with Right Wing Communism, Socialism is not authoritarian it is very democratic, its was because of left wing thinking people you and others are allowed to vote, if right wing had it's way you would not be allowed to vote at the moment the right wing are trying to put people off from voting and its working, they know the more people vote the less of a strangle hold they will have as they will not be in power so much. oh by the way Chomsky is not Left wing nor is he Right wing he is Center ground[/p][/quote]Another entertaining post from the mouthpiece of the fastest growing political party (self proclaimed) that has never got within sniffing distance of electoral victory in any area outside of the empty space between poor old Southy's ears.Torchie1

They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.

Oh sod off.

Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.

Noam Chomsky said Quote
&quot;It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"

The correct quote is: -
“It’s pretty ironic that the so-called ‘least advanced’ people are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us, while the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are trying to drive the society to destruction.”
You really should learn to cut and paste.

That was from memory, just shows how close i really am.

No it wasn't. You're in a hole; stop digging.

No that was from memory i was watching a vid clip off him 2 weeks ago

[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote:
Love Productions?
An appropriately named company?[/p][/quote]They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.[/p][/quote]Oh sod off.[/p][/quote]Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.[/p][/quote]Noam Chomsky said Quote
"It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"[/p][/quote]The correct quote is: -
“It’s pretty ironic that the so-called ‘least advanced’ people are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us, while the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are trying to drive the society to destruction.”
You really should learn to cut and paste.[/p][/quote]That was from memory, just shows how close i really am.[/p][/quote]No it wasn't. You're in a hole; stop digging.[/p][/quote]No that was from memory i was watching a vid clip off him 2 weeks agosouthy

They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.

Oh sod off.

Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.

Noam Chomsky said Quote
&quot;It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"

Perhaps that could be the quote that gets Tusc it's first election win!

Chomsky = "new left" What's "new" about the left?. Same old tired rubbish. Same old authoritarian cant. TUSC- Trade Union and Soviet Communism. What is "new" about that?

Our local far extreme right winger still learning, now let me correct you, apart from the TUSC as nothing in common with Right Wing Communism, Socialism is not authoritarian it is very democratic, its was because of left wing thinking people you and others are allowed to vote, if right wing had it's way you would not be allowed to vote at the moment the right wing are trying to put people off from voting and its working, they know the more people vote the less of a strangle hold they will have as they will not be in power so much. oh by the way Chomsky is not Left wing nor is he Right wing he is Center ground

Another entertaining post from the mouthpiece of the fastest growing political party (self proclaimed) that has never got within sniffing distance of electoral victory in any area outside of the empty space between poor old Southy's ears.

4 by-elections won so far, not bad for a party that only just started and don't have the funds like Greens, UKIP, Torys Lib/Dems, Labour do from big organisations, The TUSC relys on the public in there donation to be able to run its the only party that is made up from ordinary people off the streets

[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote:
Love Productions?
An appropriately named company?[/p][/quote]They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.[/p][/quote]Oh sod off.[/p][/quote]Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.[/p][/quote]Noam Chomsky said Quote
"It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"[/p][/quote]Perhaps that could be the quote that gets Tusc it's first election win![/p][/quote]Chomsky = "new left" What's "new" about the left?. Same old tired rubbish. Same old authoritarian cant. TUSC- Trade Union and Soviet Communism. What is "new" about that?[/p][/quote]Our local far extreme right winger still learning, now let me correct you, apart from the TUSC as nothing in common with Right Wing Communism, Socialism is not authoritarian it is very democratic, its was because of left wing thinking people you and others are allowed to vote, if right wing had it's way you would not be allowed to vote at the moment the right wing are trying to put people off from voting and its working, they know the more people vote the less of a strangle hold they will have as they will not be in power so much. oh by the way Chomsky is not Left wing nor is he Right wing he is Center ground[/p][/quote]Another entertaining post from the mouthpiece of the fastest growing political party (self proclaimed) that has never got within sniffing distance of electoral victory in any area outside of the empty space between poor old Southy's ears.[/p][/quote]4 by-elections won so far, not bad for a party that only just started and don't have the funds like Greens, UKIP, Torys Lib/Dems, Labour do from big organisations, The TUSC relys on the public in there donation to be able to run its the only party that is made up from ordinary people off the streetssouthy

George4th wrote:
Southampton, as a Port, has always had this diversity in many shapes and sizes. My guess would be that most Southampton residents are descendents of immigrants (incl from Scotland, Wales and Ireland).

Seems to me a case of &quot;thou protests too much"!

What have Southampton to be ashamed of? Because that's the message being given out by the likes of Whitehead - we are ashamed!

Let the program be made. Let's see what life can be for some people in Southampton.

It's all very well cheering your local football team - what about cheering for Southampton?!

Where did you get the idea that Dr. Alan Whitehead is ashamed of Southampton? Your unfair mud is not likely to stick on our democratically elected Member of Parliament.

Fact, Alan is very proud of representing Southampton Test in Parliament.

Fact, before entering Parliament he spent many years as Leader of the Council ( In my view the best Leader of Council in recent times). He served that office because he cares about Southampton.

Fact, when young lad out of all the great universities in UK Alan Whitehead opted for Southampton and after gaining his doctorate made the city his permanent home.

Surely that should be sufficient proof that Alan is not ashamed of Southampton but is proud of the City and Saints, whom he supports.

Whitehead has only asked the views of his constituents regarding what they think, so that if situation arises as responsible MP he can be prepared to represent them with best of his ability.

I may not be keen on NuLabour but when the MP is doing a good job he deserves apperciation, not politically biased mud.

Paramjit

Call me a cynic but!

"Fact, before entering Parliament he spent many years as Leader of the Council"
As a stepping stone to greater things!

"He served that office because he cares about Southampton"
He served because it was route one to being an MP!
.
"Fact, when young lad out of all the great universities in UK Alan Whitehead opted for Southampton and after gaining his doctorate made the city his permanent home. "
He studied Politics, was immersed in Labour Politics and having realised that Southampton was a hotbed of Unionism/Labour, he saw an opportunity!

"Surely that should be sufficient proof that Alan is not ashamed of Southampton but is proud of the City and Saints, whom he supports"
No!

"Whitehead has only asked the views of his constituents regarding what they think, so that if situation arises as responsible MP he can be prepared to represent them with best of his ability."

Uhm!

"I may not be keen on NuLabour but when the MP is doing a good job he deserves apperciation, not politically biased mud"
Where was the mud?! Admittedly saying "the likes of Whitehead" was slightly incorrect but even you know it wasn't aimed at just him! I could see a bandwagon and he and others have jumped on it!
At no time did I make it political! You did!

However, as you brought the subject up, as an MP I think he has not been very good for Southampton - just my opinion.

I'm always conscience of your political background and your excellent commend of the English language and I am always careful in my replies to you. You are a fan of Alan Whitehead and that's to be commended. However, you were wrong to see a political motive in my comment.

George4th, sorry to say but you have got your facts wrong, especially about Alan Whitehead in his younger days having worked out ambitious plan of coming to Southampton Uni because city was Labour and Trade Union stronghold, which will suit him in the long run.

Fact when student in University of Southampton Alan was active member of the Liberal Party.

My apology for puncturing your balloon full of fiction.

Shows what kind of opportunist he was then!!!

[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote:
Southampton, as a Port, has always had this diversity in many shapes and sizes. My guess would be that most Southampton residents are descendents of immigrants (incl from Scotland, Wales and Ireland).
Seems to me a case of "thou protests too much"!
What have Southampton to be ashamed of? Because that's the message being given out by the likes of Whitehead - we are ashamed!
Let the program be made. Let's see what life can be for some people in Southampton.
It's all very well cheering your local football team - what about cheering for Southampton?![/p][/quote]Where did you get the idea that Dr. Alan Whitehead is ashamed of Southampton? Your unfair mud is not likely to stick on our democratically elected Member of Parliament.
Fact, Alan is very proud of representing Southampton Test in Parliament.
Fact, before entering Parliament he spent many years as Leader of the Council ( In my view the best Leader of Council in recent times). He served that office because he cares about Southampton.
Fact, when young lad out of all the great universities in UK Alan Whitehead opted for Southampton and after gaining his doctorate made the city his permanent home.
Surely that should be sufficient proof that Alan is not ashamed of Southampton but is proud of the City and Saints, whom he supports.
Whitehead has only asked the views of his constituents regarding what they think, so that if situation arises as responsible MP he can be prepared to represent them with best of his ability.
I may not be keen on NuLabour but when the MP is doing a good job he deserves apperciation, not politically biased mud.[/p][/quote]Paramjit
Call me a cynic but!
"Fact, before entering Parliament he spent many years as Leader of the Council"
As a stepping stone to greater things!
"He served that office because he cares about Southampton"
He served because it was route one to being an MP!
.
"Fact, when young lad out of all the great universities in UK Alan Whitehead opted for Southampton and after gaining his doctorate made the city his permanent home. "
He studied Politics, was immersed in Labour Politics and having realised that Southampton was a hotbed of Unionism/Labour, he saw an opportunity!
"Surely that should be sufficient proof that Alan is not ashamed of Southampton but is proud of the City and Saints, whom he supports"
No!
"Whitehead has only asked the views of his constituents regarding what they think, so that if situation arises as responsible MP he can be prepared to represent them with best of his ability."
Uhm!
"I may not be keen on NuLabour but when the MP is doing a good job he deserves apperciation, not politically biased mud"
Where was the mud?! Admittedly saying "the likes of Whitehead" was slightly incorrect but even you know it wasn't aimed at just him! I could see a bandwagon and he and others have jumped on it!
At no time did I make it political! You did!
However, as you brought the subject up, as an MP I think he has not been very good for Southampton - just my opinion.
I'm always conscience of your political background and your excellent commend of the English language and I am always careful in my replies to you. You are a fan of Alan Whitehead and that's to be commended. However, you were wrong to see a political motive in my comment.[/p][/quote]George4th, sorry to say but you have got your facts wrong, especially about Alan Whitehead in his younger days having worked out ambitious plan of coming to Southampton Uni because city was Labour and Trade Union stronghold, which will suit him in the long run.
Fact when student in University of Southampton Alan was active member of the Liberal Party.
My apology for puncturing your balloon full of fiction.[/p][/quote]Shows what kind of opportunist he was then!!!George4th

They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.

Oh sod off.

Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.

Noam Chomsky said Quote
&quot;It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"

Perhaps that could be the quote that gets Tusc it's first election win!

Chomsky = "new left" What's "new" about the left?. Same old tired rubbish. Same old authoritarian cant. TUSC- Trade Union and Soviet Communism. What is "new" about that?

Our local far extreme right winger still learning, now let me correct you, apart from the TUSC as nothing in common with Right Wing Communism, Socialism is not authoritarian it is very democratic, its was because of left wing thinking people you and others are allowed to vote, if right wing had it's way you would not be allowed to vote at the moment the right wing are trying to put people off from voting and its working, they know the more people vote the less of a strangle hold they will have as they will not be in power so much. oh by the way Chomsky is not Left wing nor is he Right wing he is Center ground

Another entertaining post from the mouthpiece of the fastest growing political party (self proclaimed) that has never got within sniffing distance of electoral victory in any area outside of the empty space between poor old Southy's ears.

4 by-elections won so far, not bad for a party that only just started and don't have the funds like Greens, UKIP, Torys Lib/Dems, Labour do from big organisations, The TUSC relys on the public in there donation to be able to run its the only party that is made up from ordinary people off the streets

With 4161 Council seats up for election in May which is only a portion of the total, I don't think your four seats and the BNPs two seats represent any real threat of change. Whatever claims you make up about the coming change based on your four seats will be just as valid and irrelevant as those made up by the BNP. Only a handful of the disaffected and the retarded ever vote for extremism of any sort as poor old Daz (or was it Omo) found out last year when sixty two of his friends helped him out so that he could give the Wessex Regionalist a good drubbing in Eastleigh.

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote:
Love Productions?
An appropriately named company?[/p][/quote]They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.[/p][/quote]Oh sod off.[/p][/quote]Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.[/p][/quote]Noam Chomsky said Quote
"It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"[/p][/quote]Perhaps that could be the quote that gets Tusc it's first election win![/p][/quote]Chomsky = "new left" What's "new" about the left?. Same old tired rubbish. Same old authoritarian cant. TUSC- Trade Union and Soviet Communism. What is "new" about that?[/p][/quote]Our local far extreme right winger still learning, now let me correct you, apart from the TUSC as nothing in common with Right Wing Communism, Socialism is not authoritarian it is very democratic, its was because of left wing thinking people you and others are allowed to vote, if right wing had it's way you would not be allowed to vote at the moment the right wing are trying to put people off from voting and its working, they know the more people vote the less of a strangle hold they will have as they will not be in power so much. oh by the way Chomsky is not Left wing nor is he Right wing he is Center ground[/p][/quote]Another entertaining post from the mouthpiece of the fastest growing political party (self proclaimed) that has never got within sniffing distance of electoral victory in any area outside of the empty space between poor old Southy's ears.[/p][/quote]4 by-elections won so far, not bad for a party that only just started and don't have the funds like Greens, UKIP, Torys Lib/Dems, Labour do from big organisations, The TUSC relys on the public in there donation to be able to run its the only party that is made up from ordinary people off the streets[/p][/quote]With 4161 Council seats up for election in May which is only a portion of the total, I don't think your four seats and the BNPs two seats represent any real threat of change. Whatever claims you make up about the coming change based on your four seats will be just as valid and irrelevant as those made up by the BNP. Only a handful of the disaffected and the retarded ever vote for extremism of any sort as poor old Daz (or was it Omo) found out last year when sixty two of his friends helped him out so that he could give the Wessex Regionalist a good drubbing in Eastleigh.Torchie1

Many say - I don't claim benefits - well I'll wager a penny or two that by the end of your working life you will in some form or another. Many jobs at present done manually in offices across this land will with the march of technology be done without human hand - the data base will be the interface. Just like industry the work force will shrink and there will be more seeking part time low paid jobs. I hope those complaining about benefits now will stick with that view and proudly struggle like grandmother and grandfather did!

Many say - I don't claim benefits - well I'll wager a penny or two that by the end of your working life you will in some form or another. Many jobs at present done manually in offices across this land will with the march of technology be done without human hand - the data base will be the interface. Just like industry the work force will shrink and there will be more seeking part time low paid jobs. I hope those complaining about benefits now will stick with that view and proudly struggle like grandmother and grandfather did!skeptik

Many say - I don't claim benefits - well I'll wager a penny or two that by the end of your working life you will in some form or another. Many jobs at present done manually in offices across this land will with the march of technology be done without human hand - the data base will be the interface. Just like industry the work force will shrink and there will be more seeking part time low paid jobs. I hope those complaining about benefits now will stick with that view and proudly struggle like grandmother and grandfather did!

Yes but unlike many of the so called immigrants here now hard working people of this country will have paid into the system over their working lives so if they have to claim benefits at some point we shouldnt begrudge them.
Asylum is the nearest safe country not travel thousands of miles for a free handout.

skeptik says...
Many say - I don't claim benefits - well I'll wager a penny or two that by the end of your working life you will in some form or another. Many jobs at present done manually in offices across this land will with the march of technology be done without human hand - the data base will be the interface. Just like industry the work force will shrink and there will be more seeking part time low paid jobs. I hope those complaining about benefits now will stick with that view and proudly struggle like grandmother and grandfather did!
Yes but unlike many of the so called immigrants here now hard working people of this country will have paid into the system over their working lives so if they have to claim benefits at some point we shouldnt begrudge them.
Asylum is the nearest safe country not travel thousands of miles for a free handout.Woolston ollie

skeptik wrote:
Many say - I don't claim benefits - well I'll wager a penny or two that by the end of your working life you will in some form or another. Many jobs at present done manually in offices across this land will with the march of technology be done without human hand - the data base will be the interface. Just like industry the work force will shrink and there will be more seeking part time low paid jobs. I hope those complaining about benefits now will stick with that view and proudly struggle like grandmother and grandfather did!

But the welfare system is a Ponzi Scheme, especially the OAP. There is no "pool" of welfare. Thus if you are right, and you may quite possibly be, there will be nothing to receive. That would always have been the case but the decision of the Attlee government to have an unfunded State pension and Brown to damage funded provision irreparably by the removal of the "untaxed in taxed out" principle in pensions have been, shall we say, politely, somewhat regrettable?

[quote][p][bold]skeptik[/bold] wrote:
Many say - I don't claim benefits - well I'll wager a penny or two that by the end of your working life you will in some form or another. Many jobs at present done manually in offices across this land will with the march of technology be done without human hand - the data base will be the interface. Just like industry the work force will shrink and there will be more seeking part time low paid jobs. I hope those complaining about benefits now will stick with that view and proudly struggle like grandmother and grandfather did![/p][/quote]But the welfare system is a Ponzi Scheme, especially the OAP. There is no "pool" of welfare. Thus if you are right, and you may quite possibly be, there will be nothing to receive. That would always have been the case but the decision of the Attlee government to have an unfunded State pension and Brown to damage funded provision irreparably by the removal of the "untaxed in taxed out" principle in pensions have been, shall we say, politely, somewhat regrettable?Dai Rear

They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.

Oh sod off.

Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.

Noam Chomsky said Quote
&quot;It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"

Perhaps that could be the quote that gets Tusc it's first election win!

Chomsky = "new left" What's "new" about the left?. Same old tired rubbish. Same old authoritarian cant. TUSC- Trade Union and Soviet Communism. What is "new" about that?

Our local far extreme right winger still learning, now let me correct you, apart from the TUSC as nothing in common with Right Wing Communism, Socialism is not authoritarian it is very democratic, its was because of left wing thinking people you and others are allowed to vote, if right wing had it's way you would not be allowed to vote at the moment the right wing are trying to put people off from voting and its working, they know the more people vote the less of a strangle hold they will have as they will not be in power so much. oh by the way Chomsky is not Left wing nor is he Right wing he is Center ground

And Southy, as you well know, left wing and right wing are the same. Mussolini was a communist before he was a fascist; Hitler's Party was the National Socialist Party, Socialism is not democratic because its basic tenet is that the State should determine what resources the individual shall have and enforces that by State violence, prisons for those deemed not to have paid their (as the sad apology for a Conservative) Cameron says "fair share" of tax. I could go on but again, as you well know socialism in any manifestation cannot be democratic and cannot be equated with Christianity, another piece of black propaganda by , most recently people like Blair, for Christianity concerns free will and socialism abhors free will.

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote:
Love Productions?
An appropriately named company?[/p][/quote]They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.[/p][/quote]Oh sod off.[/p][/quote]Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.[/p][/quote]Noam Chomsky said Quote
"It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"[/p][/quote]Perhaps that could be the quote that gets Tusc it's first election win![/p][/quote]Chomsky = "new left" What's "new" about the left?. Same old tired rubbish. Same old authoritarian cant. TUSC- Trade Union and Soviet Communism. What is "new" about that?[/p][/quote]Our local far extreme right winger still learning, now let me correct you, apart from the TUSC as nothing in common with Right Wing Communism, Socialism is not authoritarian it is very democratic, its was because of left wing thinking people you and others are allowed to vote, if right wing had it's way you would not be allowed to vote at the moment the right wing are trying to put people off from voting and its working, they know the more people vote the less of a strangle hold they will have as they will not be in power so much. oh by the way Chomsky is not Left wing nor is he Right wing he is Center ground[/p][/quote]And Southy, as you well know, left wing and right wing are the same. Mussolini was a communist before he was a fascist; Hitler's Party was the National Socialist Party, Socialism is not democratic because its basic tenet is that the State should determine what resources the individual shall have and enforces that by State violence, prisons for those deemed not to have paid their (as the sad apology for a Conservative) Cameron says "fair share" of tax. I could go on but again, as you well know socialism in any manifestation cannot be democratic and cannot be equated with Christianity, another piece of black propaganda by , most recently people like Blair, for Christianity concerns free will and socialism abhors free will.Dai Rear

I work for the NHS and 3 members of my family are police officers in this city, we have seen first hand the detrimental affect too many immigrants claiming benefits have had on our systems and resources. If you come to this country it should be to find work and pay into our system if you want to reap the benefits from it. Like it was previously mentioned there are too many 'asylum seekers' that have crossed lots borders to reach this country, these people are not genuine asylum seekers, they have heard about the easy benefit system and are desperate to get here and take advantage of it otherwise they would have stayed in the first safe country they came to. You only have to walk through the parks in the city centre during the day and you can see many people from all nationalities that have claimed benefit money but have nothing better to spend it on than alcohol and lay in the park all day. I am expecting comments from people saying how wrong and bigotted I am but I do not think it is acceptable to bring this country to its knees by giving out free hand outs to everyone that turns up here. This does not make me racist, I am just a normal hard working individual and find it very sad that my grandparents fought in the war to protect this country and we have now opened the doors and let everyone in regardless!

I work for the NHS and 3 members of my family are police officers in this city, we have seen first hand the detrimental affect too many immigrants claiming benefits have had on our systems and resources. If you come to this country it should be to find work and pay into our system if you want to reap the benefits from it. Like it was previously mentioned there are too many 'asylum seekers' that have crossed lots borders to reach this country, these people are not genuine asylum seekers, they have heard about the easy benefit system and are desperate to get here and take advantage of it otherwise they would have stayed in the first safe country they came to. You only have to walk through the parks in the city centre during the day and you can see many people from all nationalities that have claimed benefit money but have nothing better to spend it on than alcohol and lay in the park all day. I am expecting comments from people saying how wrong and bigotted I am but I do not think it is acceptable to bring this country to its knees by giving out free hand outs to everyone that turns up here. This does not make me racist, I am just a normal hard working individual and find it very sad that my grandparents fought in the war to protect this country and we have now opened the doors and let everyone in regardless!Leesylou67

I work for the NHS and 3 members of my family are police officers in this city, we have seen first hand the detrimental affect too many immigrants claiming benefits have had on our systems and resources. If you come to this country it should be to find work and pay into our system if you want to reap the benefits from it. Like it was previously mentioned there are too many 'asylum seekers' that have crossed lots borders to reach this country, these people are not genuine asylum seekers, they have heard about the easy benefit system and are desperate to get here and take advantage of it otherwise they would have stayed in the first safe country they came to. You only have to walk through the parks in the city centre during the day and you can see many people from all nationalities that have claimed benefit money but have nothing better to spend it on than alcohol and lay in the park all day. I am expecting comments from people saying how wrong and bigotted I am but I do not think it is acceptable to bring this country to its knees by giving out free hand outs to everyone that turns up here. This does not make me racist, I am just a normal hard working individual and find it very sad that my grandparents fought in the war to protect this country and we have now opened the doors and let everyone in regardless!
I agree whole heartedly
Asylum is the first safe country not halfway across the world for a easy ticket to benefit St. Thats why the ports in France are full of illegal immigrants desperate to come here.

Leesylou67 says...
I work for the NHS and 3 members of my family are police officers in this city, we have seen first hand the detrimental affect too many immigrants claiming benefits have had on our systems and resources. If you come to this country it should be to find work and pay into our system if you want to reap the benefits from it. Like it was previously mentioned there are too many 'asylum seekers' that have crossed lots borders to reach this country, these people are not genuine asylum seekers, they have heard about the easy benefit system and are desperate to get here and take advantage of it otherwise they would have stayed in the first safe country they came to. You only have to walk through the parks in the city centre during the day and you can see many people from all nationalities that have claimed benefit money but have nothing better to spend it on than alcohol and lay in the park all day. I am expecting comments from people saying how wrong and bigotted I am but I do not think it is acceptable to bring this country to its knees by giving out free hand outs to everyone that turns up here. This does not make me racist, I am just a normal hard working individual and find it very sad that my grandparents fought in the war to protect this country and we have now opened the doors and let everyone in regardless!
I agree whole heartedly
Asylum is the first safe country not halfway across the world for a easy ticket to benefit St. Thats why the ports in France are full of illegal immigrants desperate to come here.Woolston ollie

Leesylou67 wrote:
I work for the NHS and 3 members of my family are police officers in this city, we have seen first hand the detrimental affect too many immigrants claiming benefits have had on our systems and resources. If you come to this country it should be to find work and pay into our system if you want to reap the benefits from it. Like it was previously mentioned there are too many 'asylum seekers' that have crossed lots borders to reach this country, these people are not genuine asylum seekers, they have heard about the easy benefit system and are desperate to get here and take advantage of it otherwise they would have stayed in the first safe country they came to. You only have to walk through the parks in the city centre during the day and you can see many people from all nationalities that have claimed benefit money but have nothing better to spend it on than alcohol and lay in the park all day. I am expecting comments from people saying how wrong and bigotted I am but I do not think it is acceptable to bring this country to its knees by giving out free hand outs to everyone that turns up here. This does not make me racist, I am just a normal hard working individual and find it very sad that my grandparents fought in the war to protect this country and we have now opened the doors and let everyone in regardless!

If a person enters my country surreptitiously and without the consent that I would have to enter their country, s/he is NOT an "asylum seeker", s/he is, and always has been, an illegal immigrant. "Asylum seeker" is a word made up by the extreme left who have a long tradition of perverting our language in similar ways. True asylum seekers, such as the pre-war kinder transport, came without secrecy and with the full knowledge and I believe, full consent of our people.

[quote][p][bold]Leesylou67[/bold] wrote:
I work for the NHS and 3 members of my family are police officers in this city, we have seen first hand the detrimental affect too many immigrants claiming benefits have had on our systems and resources. If you come to this country it should be to find work and pay into our system if you want to reap the benefits from it. Like it was previously mentioned there are too many 'asylum seekers' that have crossed lots borders to reach this country, these people are not genuine asylum seekers, they have heard about the easy benefit system and are desperate to get here and take advantage of it otherwise they would have stayed in the first safe country they came to. You only have to walk through the parks in the city centre during the day and you can see many people from all nationalities that have claimed benefit money but have nothing better to spend it on than alcohol and lay in the park all day. I am expecting comments from people saying how wrong and bigotted I am but I do not think it is acceptable to bring this country to its knees by giving out free hand outs to everyone that turns up here. This does not make me racist, I am just a normal hard working individual and find it very sad that my grandparents fought in the war to protect this country and we have now opened the doors and let everyone in regardless![/p][/quote]If a person enters my country surreptitiously and without the consent that I would have to enter their country, s/he is NOT an "asylum seeker", s/he is, and always has been, an illegal immigrant. "Asylum seeker" is a word made up by the extreme left who have a long tradition of perverting our language in similar ways. True asylum seekers, such as the pre-war kinder transport, came without secrecy and with the full knowledge and I believe, full consent of our people.Dai Rear

They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.

Oh sod off.

Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.

Ooooh, would've scored some points but you ruined it with the veiled insult. Thanks for playing.

[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote:
Love Productions?
An appropriately named company?[/p][/quote]They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.[/p][/quote]Oh sod off.[/p][/quote]Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.[/p][/quote]Ooooh, would've scored some points but you ruined it with the veiled insult. Thanks for playing.Charlie Bucket

They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.

Oh sod off.

Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.

Noam Chomsky said Quote
&quot;It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"

Perhaps that could be the quote that gets Tusc it's first election win!

Chomsky = "new left" What's "new" about the left?. Same old tired rubbish. Same old authoritarian cant. TUSC- Trade Union and Soviet Communism. What is "new" about that?

Our local far extreme right winger still learning, now let me correct you, apart from the TUSC as nothing in common with Right Wing Communism, Socialism is not authoritarian it is very democratic, its was because of left wing thinking people you and others are allowed to vote, if right wing had it's way you would not be allowed to vote at the moment the right wing are trying to put people off from voting and its working, they know the more people vote the less of a strangle hold they will have as they will not be in power so much. oh by the way Chomsky is not Left wing nor is he Right wing he is Center ground

Another entertaining post from the mouthpiece of the fastest growing political party (self proclaimed) that has never got within sniffing distance of electoral victory in any area outside of the empty space between poor old Southy's ears.

4 by-elections won so far, not bad for a party that only just started and don't have the funds like Greens, UKIP, Torys Lib/Dems, Labour do from big organisations, The TUSC relys on the public in there donation to be able to run its the only party that is made up from ordinary people off the streets

With 4161 Council seats up for election in May which is only a portion of the total, I don't think your four seats and the BNPs two seats represent any real threat of change. Whatever claims you make up about the coming change based on your four seats will be just as valid and irrelevant as those made up by the BNP. Only a handful of the disaffected and the retarded ever vote for extremism of any sort as poor old Daz (or was it Omo) found out last year when sixty two of his friends helped him out so that he could give the Wessex Regionalist a good drubbing in Eastleigh.

I don't even believe his 4 by-election victories claim.
Bet he can't name where they all were.

[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote:
Love Productions?
An appropriately named company?[/p][/quote]They got kick out of Birmingham where they done most of the recording for Benefits Street and had to finish at a new location because of the false propaganda that they was dealing in.
I heard on the grape vine that this company supports UKIP and maybe more.
Makes me wonder why come to Southampton to make this new program recording of Immigration Street or any other place and the timing of it.
I am very iffy about this, but if it happens then it should be held on till after May 2015 and not release till after.[/p][/quote]Oh sod off.[/p][/quote]Southy has every right to post his comment, telling him to S Off only exposes your manners as suitable to be on CH 4's programme. By all means feel free to oppose Southy, he has broad enough socialist shoulders he doesn't dislike his opponents (plenty of them on here) but don't tell him to S Off, it only will reflect bad on your good self.[/p][/quote]Noam Chomsky said Quote
"It's pretty ironic that the so-called 'least advantage' people are the ones are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us.
While the richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are the ones that are trying to drive society into destruction"[/p][/quote]Perhaps that could be the quote that gets Tusc it's first election win![/p][/quote]Chomsky = "new left" What's "new" about the left?. Same old tired rubbish. Same old authoritarian cant. TUSC- Trade Union and Soviet Communism. What is "new" about that?[/p][/quote]Our local far extreme right winger still learning, now let me correct you, apart from the TUSC as nothing in common with Right Wing Communism, Socialism is not authoritarian it is very democratic, its was because of left wing thinking people you and others are allowed to vote, if right wing had it's way you would not be allowed to vote at the moment the right wing are trying to put people off from voting and its working, they know the more people vote the less of a strangle hold they will have as they will not be in power so much. oh by the way Chomsky is not Left wing nor is he Right wing he is Center ground[/p][/quote]Another entertaining post from the mouthpiece of the fastest growing political party (self proclaimed) that has never got within sniffing distance of electoral victory in any area outside of the empty space between poor old Southy's ears.[/p][/quote]4 by-elections won so far, not bad for a party that only just started and don't have the funds like Greens, UKIP, Torys Lib/Dems, Labour do from big organisations, The TUSC relys on the public in there donation to be able to run its the only party that is made up from ordinary people off the streets[/p][/quote]With 4161 Council seats up for election in May which is only a portion of the total, I don't think your four seats and the BNPs two seats represent any real threat of change. Whatever claims you make up about the coming change based on your four seats will be just as valid and irrelevant as those made up by the BNP. Only a handful of the disaffected and the retarded ever vote for extremism of any sort as poor old Daz (or was it Omo) found out last year when sixty two of his friends helped him out so that he could give the Wessex Regionalist a good drubbing in Eastleigh.[/p][/quote]I don't even believe his 4 by-election victories claim.
Bet he can't name where they all were.freefinker

You only have to look at the filth where these people live, especially Derby Road & Cranbury Avenue!
There is cr@p all other the streets, old fridges & wahsing machines, push chairs & every other house is turned in to a bloody mosque or welfare centre.
Hopefully the programme will show the whole place down there for the uncivilised dump that it has been allowed to become.
Oh bugger, I must leave the cider alone cauise I always start to vent :)

You only have to look at the filth where these people live, especially Derby Road & Cranbury Avenue!
There is cr@p all other the streets, old fridges & wahsing machines, push chairs & every other house is turned in to a bloody mosque or welfare centre.
Hopefully the programme will show the whole place down there for the uncivilised dump that it has been allowed to become.
Oh bugger, I must leave the cider alone cauise I always start to vent :)SOULJACKER

Would be interesting to get an insight into the lives of these immigrants and see if they actually are working (like they say) or claiming benefits. Always lots of poles walking round in tracksuits when ever I have a lunch break in the town centre!

Would be interesting to get an insight into the lives of these immigrants and see if they actually are working (like they say) or claiming benefits. Always lots of poles walking round in tracksuits when ever I have a lunch break in the town centre!Hastagger

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.

I get the point you're trying to make, but that's not actually the case. See: Crown Estate.

The cost of the royal family is 3 times as much to what is earned by the royal family

Hardly...... However, do you think getting rid of it would save money...... The cost of having a President as head of state in most country is double the cost.

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
Best places for Chanell 4 to make a programme on immigration may the Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace etc, where families from the Contnent are doing well by claiming plenty from public purse.[/p][/quote]I get the point you're trying to make, but that's not actually the case. See: Crown Estate.[/p][/quote]The cost of the royal family is 3 times as much to what is earned by the royal family[/p][/quote]Hardly...... However, do you think getting rid of it would save money...... The cost of having a President as head of state in most country is double the cost.hythehic