Arachnid wrote:You reap what you sow and the Luo contract was wrong from the beginning and tried to circumvent the CBA at the time and make Gary look bad.

It was par for the course at the time. There are approximately 40 NHL contracts that are eligible for cap recapture. Granted Lou's deal probably has a greater potential of meeting the criteria for the penalty. It'd be interesting to take a good look at all 40 contracts and see just how "bad" each one of them is.

Example:

If Luongo retires at 40 it's a 2.5 million penalty to the Canucks (assuming he's traded).If Ohlund retires at 38 it's a 2.6 million penalty to the Lightning (assuming he's not traded).

The penalties on Luongo's contract only start getting really silly if he retires at 41 or 42 (the last two years of his contract).

Sounds like Vinny is looking for a 3-4 year deal to finish his career. Sure doesn't sound like he wants a one year then back to Tampa. Sounds like he is cutting ties and wants to play somewhere where he can then retire. Looking for 4-5 per year, closer to the 5 mark.

I could see Ottawa, if Alfie retires or Montreal, both doing a 3 year 4.5 deal or thereabouts.

Heck if we could get rid of Luongo, Booth and Ballard i'd do the Vinny deal, 3 years, 4.5 per. Re-sign the twins 2 more years and you have 3 centres locked up for the next three years. Too bad there are rumours out there saying Vinny has no tot he west and that he hates Torts.

Hockey Widow wrote:Sounds like Vinny is looking for a 3-4 year deal to finish his career. Sure doesn't sound like he wants a one year then back to Tampa. Sounds like he is cutting ties and wants to play somewhere where he can then retire. Looking for 4-5 per year, closer to the 5 mark.

I could see Ottawa, if Alfie retires or Montreal, both doing a 3 year 4.5 deal or thereabouts.

Heck if we could get rid of Luongo, Booth and Ballard i'd do the Vinny deal, 3 years, 4.5 per. Re-sign the twins 2 more years and you have 3 centres locked up for the next three years. Too bad there are rumours out there saying Vinny has no tot he west and that he hates Torts.

fwiw... I read today that when asked if he had a list of preferred teams he said he didn't; but quickly added the fact that he grew up a Red Wings Fans and comes from Montreal...

Hockey Widow wrote:Heck if we could get rid of Luongo, Booth and Ballard i'd do the Vinny deal, 3 years, 4.5 per. Re-sign the twins 2 more years and you have 3 centres locked up for the next three years. Too bad there are rumours out there saying Vinny has no tot he west and that he hates Torts.

Yeah, that'd be sweet. It'd probably cost a lot of dough to get rid of Lou, Booth and Ballard though, only to shell out more money to sign Vinny. Vinny fits the age of our core players and he'd solve our centre ice position (huge upgrade over Manny). We'd be stacked down the middle if we can get him.

Todd Bersnoozi wrote:Maybe Vinny would want to play for his old coach, so Torts will be on his ass all the time again. More realistically, Vinny will probably end up in montreal or toronto or something.

I'd never believe that Vinny would consider Vancouver, but the Tortorella factor gives me a glimmer of hope.

Vinny had by far his best seasons under Torts, and saw a precipitous decline in production the year after he was fired. (Okay precipitous might be a bit harsh, but he was better than PPG under Torts with 5 consecutive 30 goal seasons, and became a 70-point guy after).