After high school i would go do the whole stay up late and go to bed after 8am deal. It worked well for my schedule (or lack of) so it wasn't much of an issue despite my family's idea that it was unhealthy... but whatever. Once I actually started working on a set schedule, I had to take naps after work and that usually screwed things up as I wouldn't be able to get back to sleep at night if I napped for more than an hour.

Now I'm usually in bed by 10pm and up no later than 6am to get ready for work. Before my current 6am wake up time, I used to have issues getting to sleep if I was up too late. I never felt very rested. I think going to sleep earlier has actually helped me in that regard. Getting up at 5:30am or 6am isn't really that difficult.

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I actually get lots of sleep (usually anywhere between 7 and 11, sometimes even more, hours a night), but when I am on my own (which is 90% of the time), I tend to slip into 25-hour days so my schedule constantly shifts. This is not a problem until work gets into the equation, then it gets pretty miserable. I survive by regular dosage of coffee and post-work naps. It's not all bad though. When I get into a reverse-day in that cycle (sleep during the day, up at night), I am often at my most productive.

The way it gets fixed is stupidly simple though. When I live around other people, it goes back to more or less normal almost immediately. When I'm off visiting my parents or friends, I tend to go to bed reasonably early, get up around 7 or so. A lot of it, I think, is tuning myself into others' routine patterns and being more in contact with things like natural daylight patterns by being out more. Eating meals with others and being out, especially in the morning and around sunset, really helps my body pace itself.

Then I go back 'home' to living on my own and it all goes to 25-hour hell again .__.

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My patterns are actually pretty similar to what Otohiko described (even the 'most productive when up all night/sleep all day' thing), except that being around others doesn't cause my schedule to shift at all. At first, it was just because the job I had in high school screwed up my brain's response to activity so that I couldn't wind down until about 3am, and after graduating this progressively got worse since I didn't have much in the way of important engagements to keep my schedule sane. Effectively, I don't have much in the way of circadian rhythm anymore. Nowadays, though, a good part of it is because I've taken over the tasks of doing the dishes and laundry, and there always seems to be time constraints during the day, so those usually get done during the dead of night when everyone else is asleep.

Usually I can go through a full cycle in about 2-3 weeks, if I force myself. Otherwise, it tends to stay most often around sleeping from 4 or 5am to 2pm, but once it gets thrown way off (like, going to bed at noon and waking up at 9pm), it starts to shift later and later on its own. If I have to, the only way to forcibly shift it is to make myself stay up until I just can't take it anymore, and then go to bed. It may not do it in a day, but there are definitely times that I've stayed up for 22 hours and then slept for 10-12 just to right my schedule by force. Being up that long starts messing with my eyesight and alertness, though. Usually I stay up between 14-17 hours and sleep for 8-10.

I actually can't meaningfully nap, in the same way that I can't really force myself to sleep if I'm not tired. If I'm tired and go to bed, I'll be out for at least 6 hours.

I go to bed around midnight and wake up around 6:45am Japan Standard Time. I can wake up earlier, but I have trouble waking up later than that, even on weekends. I think my sleeping patterns only get completely screwed up when I am traveling between Japan and the United States, and only if I don't prepare for jetlag ahead of time.

I actually get lots of sleep (usually anywhere between 7 and 11, sometimes even more, hours a night), but when I am on my own (which is 90% of the time), I tend to slip into 25-hour days so my schedule constantly shifts. This is not a problem until work gets into the equation, then it gets pretty miserable. I survive by regular dosage of coffee and post-work naps. It's not all bad though. When I get into a reverse-day in that cycle (sleep during the day, up at night), I am often at my most productive.

The way it gets fixed is stupidly simple though. When I live around other people, it goes back to more or less normal almost immediately. When I'm off visiting my parents or friends, I tend to go to bed reasonably early, get up around 7 or so. A lot of it, I think, is tuning myself into others' routine patterns and being more in contact with things like natural daylight patterns by being out more. Eating meals with others and being out, especially in the morning and around sunset, really helps my body pace itself.

Then I go back 'home' to living on my own and it all goes to 25-hour hell again .__.

Qyot27 wrote:My patterns are actually pretty similar to what Otohiko described (even the 'most productive when up all night/sleep all day' thing), except that being around others doesn't cause my schedule to shift at all. At first, it was just because the job I had in high school screwed up my brain's response to activity so that I couldn't wind down until about 3am, and after graduating this progressively got worse since I didn't have much in the way of important engagements to keep my schedule sane. Effectively, I don't have much in the way of circadian rhythm anymore. Nowadays, though, a good part of it is because I've taken over the tasks of doing the dishes and laundry, and there always seems to be time constraints during the day, so those usually get done during the dead of night when everyone else is asleep.

Usually I can go through a full cycle in about 2-3 weeks, if I force myself. Otherwise, it tends to stay most often around sleeping from 4 or 5am to 2pm, but once it gets thrown way off (like, going to bed at noon and waking up at 9pm), it starts to shift later and later on its own. If I have to, the only way to forcibly shift it is to make myself stay up until I just can't take it anymore, and then go to bed. It may not do it in a day, but there are definitely times that I've stayed up for 22 hours and then slept for 10-12 just to right my schedule by force. Being up that long starts messing with my eyesight and alertness, though. Usually I stay up between 14-17 hours and sleep for 8-10.

I actually can't meaningfully nap, in the same way that I can't really force myself to sleep if I'm not tired. If I'm tired and go to bed, I'll be out for at least 6 hours.

My sleeping patterns were the worst as well. Sleeping at 9-11 am, and waking up around 7-8 pm. This went on for months/years. I've managed to fix my sleeping patterns at times, by sleeping around midnight and waking up at 6-7 am. While it felt really good, it didn't usually last long... lol. I plan to fix my sleeping patterns soon though, such as sleeping by 4 am max and waking up around 10 am. For some reason, when you have messed up sleeping patterns, it feels like time just flies by, but when you sleep/wake up at a reasonable time, day feels longer.

If you don't mind me asking, how do the both of you go on about your daily routine? Like you know, having to go out for may be work, socializing, or to even to buy something? I'll admit, as shameful as this is; with my terrible sleeping patterns, I wasn't able to get out of the house for months. It wasn't a healthy lifestyle at all, n it still isn't, but at least it isn't half as bad as it used to be.

My patterns are somewhat erratic. Generally, during the week, I try to be in bed by 2am at latest with Midnight being the target and my alarm is set for 8am. Depending on how tired I am I'll either get up right at 8 or snooze till 9. This of course changes depending on what I have to do for work. If I have to work late night change windows I could be up till 6am. If I have early meetings I could be up at 6am. I try to keep my schedule normal, but work often dictates against having a normal schedule. The good thing is I can sleep in and come in late when I need to.

All bets are off on the weekend tho. I could have a sunday morning change window that goes to 6 am. I could be up manically working on something till noon. I could hit the sack at 9pm on friday night and not wake up till the same time on Saturday. It all depends on how well I slept during the week (or how tired I am) or what I have to do for work.

When I was younger and didn't have such crazy work requirements I'd generally sleep between 2~4am and 10am~noon. I had that down pat pretty well. Then when I was working in the helpdesk here my schedule would change on the drop of a hat depending on what shift I was scheduled at work. If I was scheduled midnights I'd basically sleep from like 10am~noon till 9pm. If I worked 2nd shift I'd sleep like from 4am till noon-2pm. If I worked a day shift I'd basically wake up 1 hour before my shift and try to sleep at least 6 hours before that. It all really depends on what my schedule was and it could change weekly or daily sometimes.

Nunusaur wrote:If you don't mind me asking, how do the both of you go on about your daily routine? Like you know, having to go out for may be work, socializing, or to even to buy something? I'll admit, as shameful as this is; with my terrible sleeping patterns, I wasn't able to get out of the house for months. It wasn't a healthy lifestyle at all, n it still isn't, but at least it isn't half as bad as it used to be.

Well, most of the time, I wake up sometime during the afternoon, so it doesn't (or wouldn't) put too much of a hindrance on that sort of stuff. Just that instead of getting out of the house at 10am, it's typically between 3-5pm. And when the sun doesn't set until after 8pm, it gives plenty of time to get those things done. I almost want to say that the huge swings in schedule calm down a lot during the fall and winter, since the cooler weather makes me more likely to *want* to be up during the day. Florida in summer is unbearable, so it's a little understandable that sleeping during the day is simply to conserve energy and not feel so ridiculously drained by the heat+humidity (not that that's in any way typical, but it is a rather convenient excuse). Don't get me wrong, though; I very often end up feeling like I've got cabin fever, and I have to get out of the house just for the sake of that.

Otherwise, I'm generally low maintenance so there's almost no personal shopping I end up doing; the family shopping lists generally incorporate those items I need, so the only time I tag along is when I specifically have to look for something. Or I order things off Amazon.

And well, my existing issues with anxiety mean that I don't really socialize. Hell, even when I worked at Winn-Dixie, I never really socialized with anyone, and I worked there for a year. My socializing was mostly in school, and once I graduated, that venue was no longer available (and I resisted social media* for years, so I've not talked to anyone I went to school with since graduating, not for lack of wanting to, but then the anxiety comes bubbling back up to the surface).

*with the exception of last.fm and MAL, but those aren't really what I meant.