I don't usually care for Ghibli movies, but I really enjoyed Whisper of the Heart recently. Miyazaki didn't direct, but he did the screenplay and storyboards. I don't think there was a message, just a story.

People get sick and dieYou should cry more oftenFamilies should fight, then make up.It's wrong to fuck your sisterWar is bad because people die and lose their homesMan will destroy the earf and you should feel guilty.Disney pays in US currency

>>120497442>humans are bad>war is bad>technological progression at the expense of the environment is bad. >you should feel bad for liking these things.Well fuck you you fucking old chink cunt. Technology a best you just an old man that has lost touch with a world that left you behind long ago.

>>120498960War stimulates technological progression. Same as the space programs. The constant game of outdoing each other breeds competition and excellence. Better guns to beat better armor, research provides jobs to the researchers, manufactured goods helps to give jobs to the lower skilled and gives a sense of unity in times of war when people set aside their differences for the greater good of their nations. And of course $ is to be made in war. Money accounts for everything in this world.

>>120499056There is absolutely nothing wrong with tyranny and genocides. And injustice is a subjective concept anyway.If we didn't end a certain genocide, we wouldn't have Jews constantly robbing us blind and manipulating media to make more profit.

>>120498740>>120498756He stated himself that he was lucky to be born when he was, because if he were born 10 years earlier he likely would have been indoctrinated and swept up in the fascist youth movement.

>>120498841Moar like>technological progression at the expense of the environment is bad>technological progression, on itself, is good.As seen in Nausicaa (his "magnus opus") and The WInd Rises (his "retirement work"),

He's literally the Chairman.>Hates science and loves nature>Is the chairman of a major technological corporation that manufactures and develops devices that breaks the natural limits of humanity, which he detests>Is the founder and creator of one of the most well-known anime studios in the world, yet still hates anime>Uses his position as a chairman to steal said device and punish the creators of the nature-defying device>Uses his position as well known animator to bad-mouth people who enjoy anime he dislikes(i.e. all anime ever)We just haven't witnessed the point in time when Miyazaki turns into a giant black plane and covers the world in giant bugs.

>>120497539>anno and miyazaki being autistic about planes togetherThis is so cute. Do you think they stim together when no one's looking? Is Anno more of a hooter, or does he make more guttural sounds? Does Miyazaki hit himself sometimes?

>>120504480There's not even need to acknowledge them>>120504501reading cohomprension problems? he outright said his grief comes from anime not helping people opening to the world but the reverse. what kind of fucking megalomaniac can have the arrogance of feeling guilty for a whole social phenomenon like he was the only damn responsible? and what's worse, disrespecting his own shit is like saying "fuck you" to to few sane kids that felt something meaningful watching it

>>120504433>"anime was a mistake"Amusing how googling the line only brings up funnyjunk, devianart and thumbler shit and not one serious source of him saying that.What is found in serious sources is him saying that the anime industry sucks because it's full of otakus and saying it to be the wrong thing to do (not a direct quotation).TL;DR: you all got trolled (I mean the ones ITT who think the line was actually said, and are asspained at it).And I salute whoever made that pasta, because he trolled /a/ real good.

>>120504640why don't you take some time and think your comments through, big guyi can't even make out any b8 from this shit

>>120504705no i'm p sure that's just wrongyour average anime production was much more worthwhile and intellectually intriguing just a few decades ago.obv there are exceptions but you can't deny this simple fact

>>120504818>your average anime production was much more worthwhile and intellectually intriguing just a few decades ago.>obv there are exceptions but you can't deny this simple factNo, anime was mostly garbage shows for kids like western cartoons.

>>120504896Maybe, but most things had to be well thought out and quality was one of the highest considerations regarding many things. Mostly due to the respectively little amount of resources compared to today.

Now that everything is so easily marketable, there are more human and more financial resources overall, there is no need to make anything innovative or even visually intriguing, since you can now make easy cash from making the lowest common denominator shonen and slice-of-life shiteLiterally 90% of anime i bothered to watch from this millenia has been lazily made trash for little kids.I'm sure this is, to some degree, related to how Miyazaki feels

>>120505041>but most things had to be well thought out and quality was one of the highest considerations regarding many things.No, they weren't. It was always "lazily made trash for little kids". You're only remembering the few and far between that were actually good.

Go look up all the anime that came in a typical year in the 70s or 80s. It's 90% unwatchable crap.

The biggest difference between then and now is that there is a lot more anime being made due to the explosion of the manchild audience.

>>120505261granted, i've hardly looked further than the classics and the things related to those in late 80's and the 90's, but almost all of them were good or atleast had some redeeming qualities to them.The most obvious thing Miyazaki mentioned was the lack of real human interaction in today's anime, but you had that even in the most retarded sci-fi settings in the past, no matter how unrealistic the environments were. More effort went into thoughtful storytelling and dialogue that had actual purpose.

>now is that there is a lot more anime being madeand a clearly MUCH bigger percentage of that is absolute shite

even movies made for kids can be of great quality, and that is something anime specifically was above every other type of animation or film anyway, atleast for me

>>120505826yeah that's a nice point to start nitpicking on, while ignoring the earlier statements about today's target audience.i do have seen quite a bit, but ok, i'll bite:name me a 5 worthwhile productions from different directors from the past 15 years and i'll give uptry steering away from the 3 most obvious ones, if you dont mind

>>120506411>Prove me wrongNo thanks, same 4chan trap as always. I'll provide a list and you'll provide a counter-list of buzzwords on how everything is bad. Instead of the usual cat and mouse game lets just skip to the end where you deem me a shitposter and everything you said was right already.

>>120506593I would love a list like that, actually.I'm not trying to prove myself absolutely right, all this is just meant to support Miyazaki's initial claims. imo anyone who even tries to disagree with him is just an ignorant manchild who's Settling for low-quality anime

Your board culture for not spoonfeeding seems more like an excuse for not actually knowing anything about anime and to have delusional claims about all the time you spend on all this shit anime, and the fact that it's all somehow ironical or fun or something idk

All the reviews being so inflated and unreliable is because of all of you manchildren, i'm p sure 4chan is, in large, to blame for this shit.

>>120506819>Your board culture for not spoonfeeding seems more like an excuse for not actually knowing anything about animeIt's because of archive and Google reverse image searching which leads you to whatever you want instead of clogging up the board with more shitty threads. Look at other anime sites, the majority of what's on their front page is recommendations and "help me find this anime".

>>120507064I've got better things to do than to waste my time on shit shows. Try going back a bit. The popularity of all the shit anime is what defines what's successful on the market, what's most exposed in everywhere, what guarantees what type of show CAN even be realistically made with limited resources. I haven't even stumbled upon a single site that can filter mature anime from stuff that's for kids. In the end, the popularity of this otaku culture is what leads to the demise of anime, more or less. Not a hard concept to understand>>120507122>>120507080>>120507189lel here we go again

>>12049902712-year-old-who-thinks-he/she-is-smarter-than-everybody's argument.War doesn't improve shit. Even if it does, it takes more than gives. War is a loss for everybody, a minus profit. We could have done so much more.pic related

>>120507273>The popularity of all the shit anime is what defines what's successful on the marketYes, it's the same everywhere. Now if only there was a well described word that CAPITALized on such a free enterprise.

>I haven't even stumbled upon a single site that can filter mature anime from stuff that's for kids

>>120507273>In the end, the popularity of this otaku culture is what leads to the demise of animeSo making a lot of "pretentious" "tryhard" "2deep4you" mature anime is better then a lot of "harem" "moe" "cute girls doing cute things" otaku pandering anime?

>>120507273>I've got better things to do than to waste my time on shit shows. Try going back a bit. The popularity of all the shit anime is what defines what's successful on the market, what's most exposed in everywhere, what guarantees what type of show CAN even be realistically made with limited resources. I haven't even stumbled upon a single site that can filter mature anime from stuff that's for kids. In the end, the popularity of this otaku culture is what leads to the demise of anime, more or less. Not a hard concept to understandWow, you just reek of /v/. Fuck off back there.

>>120507471What 12-olds like >>120499027 don't understand is that war, on itself, doesn't stimulate technological progression. Competition for a tenchnological need does. War is just ONE ( and not the best) of the possible motors for competition.But then, try to explain that to edgelords.

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