Seems pretty simple, trade players who don't have a NTC to acquire proven scoring talent to get this core the help it needs.

Just like what Cup championship teams do like the Blackhawks, Bruins and Kings those teams general managers traded key pieces (doesn't have to be top prospects) for their teams needs to get over the hump.

Got a solid core of the Sedins, Kesler, Burrows, Edler, Garrison, Hamhuis, Bieksa, Luongo.Then we have a whole slew of 3rd liners and plugs surrounding them.

Mondi wrote:Short of Crosby, or Toews the Canucks are not one impact forward short of being legit.

If the Canucks trade someone like Gaunce for Cammalleri, I'll be disappointed but not surprised.

Gillis' track record with respect deadline acquisitions has been spotty. I like the Higgins pickup though.

Completely agree.

As far as Cammalleri goes, I do not like the idea of getting him at ALL (unless we're giving away ONLY Booth and a shit round pick).

I like Cammellari. Great shot, has speed, known for his conditioning, smaller than average but plays above his weight class. Hes a better shooter than most of our guys. He lost his game a little when the brilliance of Flames management brought in a pure sniper to be Iginla's setup man, but hes the kind of guy I could see mixing well with Kassian who is getting better at protecting the puck and has shown some game sense as a pick carrying power forward who likes to draw traffic and then be the setup man.

Cammellari will also be taking a salary haircut next time around. If you could get Cammellari for Booth and Schroeder and a pick it's worth it.

He's worth $4 million and can't buy a goal, or even get into the lineup of a team that can't score a tonne.

If a rebuilding team is interested in a player such as Horvat or Shinkaruk (or both), they might be willing to take on Dave Booth's contract to make it fair. Especially if said team is trying to get rid of a high cap player themselves.

Now we're trading our future forwards for some crusty under achieving guy in his 30s to hope and pray this team makes the playoffs?

Stop the insanity.

Ride out this season with this group of players, add only if it does not cost future pieces. If they get in to the playoffs they could do some damage. If they don't, start jettisoning soft and under achieving players for picks and prospects.

Pro sports is cyclical, long time fans know that. A few years rebuilding the team is not the end of the world.

Mondi wrote:Now we're trading our future forwards for some crusty under achieving guy in his 30s to hope and pray this team makes the playoffs?

Negatory.

As I've clearly stated in the past, *I* would only deal Horvat and/or Shinkaruk for a franchise player that is under the age of 30. Your Shea Weber's and Claude Giroux's and what have you.

Even for guys like Evander Kane and Rick Nash, I would absolutely NOT give up Horvat or Shinkaruk. Every other prospect, draft pick, etc., would be available for Kane or Nash (as far as I'm concerned), except for Horvat and Shinkaruk.

Mondi wrote:If you are a GM would you trade Weber or Giroux for David Booth and a CHL player?

Nope.

And I don't think I ever stated as such.

If I was the GM of the Philadelphia Flyers or Nashville Predators and for whatever reason, I felt it would be in the best interests of my team to move Giroux or Weber ((((On a personal note - I would never trade franchise players under the age of 27.....and even between 27-30 would be met with reluctance)))

I would ask for Shinkaruk, Horvat, a 1st round pick, AND maybe 1-2 more roster players. If I had to eat some salary in order to get two potential future superstars in Horvat and Shinkaruk, then I would take on Booth's contract.

A few ways the team could trade Booth is either with another teams player who is equally unwanted (player stuck behind depth and is overpaid doing it), or by a team who believes Booth might change it around if on another team with the ability to give him more ice time, or a Versteeg type of trade where the canucks would have to retain like 20%-30% of his salary.

Either way Gillis should do it so we can be done with another one of MG's "experiments"

Maybe we will get lucky this year. It will be deadline day, we sit 12 points out of a playoff spot with everyone having games in hand. MG smells the coffee and says, we ain't gonna make it. Let's be sellers. Ya I know we have all those NTC but they can be dealt with.

So we don't want to clean house, we don't want to rebuild, but we have been handed a great chance to get some picks and prospects. But in my scenario Booth has also turned it on and is once again looking like a sniper.

Playoff bound teams do crazy things. He'll we even find a taker for Alberts, get offered the moon for Burrows, Higgins, Bieksa, Edler, Luongo, Hamhuis, Hansen, Santorelli. We get offered picks for Weise and Santorelli.

The world awaits MG to clean the mess up and we all know at deadline day OUR players will be worth more than players on other teams. With a few bold moves MG will have us set for next season. Even RD will be singing his praises when all is said and done. We will get to spend the summer arguing over all the deals that got done, wondering why we didn't get much.

NBC Sports’ Jason Brough noted that Craig Button had wondered if the offensively anaemic Vancouver Canucks might have interest in Flames winger Mike Cammalleri, who has nine goals and 13 points in 15 games. Brough wasn’t sure if the Canucks would part with a high pick or top prospect for Cammalleri, suggesting they could ask the Flames to take struggling David Booth’s $4.25-million-per-season contract off their hands, which the Flames could then dump via compliance buyout next summer.

Given Cammalleri is earning $7 million this season ($6 million cap hit), the Flames could also offer to pick up part of his contract to make him palatable to clubs with limited cap space. In addition to the Canucks, the New York Rangers, Detroit Red Wings and Carolina Hurricanes are three other low-scoring clubs carrying hefty payrolls that could have interest in Cammalleri, along with budget-conscious teams like the Ottawa Senators and Nashville Predators.

Even if the Flames absorb half of Cammalleri’s remaining salary, it could take a while to find a suitable trade partner. Some of those cap-strapped teams would still have to shed salary to absorb the remainder of his contract. His limited no-trade clause will also be a factor. It’s expected the Flames will shop him close to the March trade deadline, when most of his salary will be paid out and playoff contenders start shopping in earnest for scoring help.

I think you only go after help like Cammalleri if you know you have a competitive team that would receive significant playoff benefits by such an addition.

I think the Canucks have a competitive team, but I don't know that right now. There are too many question marks. I could see this team missing the playoffs, being sellers at the deadline and getting a top 10 draft pick. Do I think that will happen? No, but I don't think that outcome is inconceivable. I also don't think it's inconceivable that they contend for the division title.

This is why I advocate waiting it out. If we're a bubble team in January/February, then obviously Gillis has some tough decisions to make. I would hate to see futures given up given the trajectory a disappointing regular season combined with the disappointing past two years projects.