I saw this show up on Steam today and was wondering how good it is. I might get it at some point but the poor controls don't inspire me. I had a frustrating time with GTA4 controls too, I always mumble to myself "goddamn console controls" when playing GTA4. It oh so slowly locks onto things to slowly perform an action and then it swings the camera into some place I don't want.

Originally Posted by dicobaltI saw this show up on Steam today and was wondering how good it is. I might get it at some point but the poor controls don't inspire me. I had a frustrating time with GTA4 controls too, I always mumble to myself "goddamn console controls" when playing GTA4. It oh so slowly locks onto things to slowly perform an action and then it swings the camera into some place I don't want.

Turn off aim assist. That's the first thing I do in every console port.

I went and bought a 360 controller just for GTA IV (sorry, but GTA must be played with a console controller - I've played every single GTA from the first and the way it has to be.)

IV was kind of crap, honestly - the city was gorgeous, the story was decent, but...I dunno, it didn't grab me. I still play San Andreas (was in the middle of a game when I reinstalled Windows a couple weeks ago - still have the save buried somewhere here.) It felt sluggish, even when benchmarks showed I was getting 40-ish fps. I started a second playthrough a while back, but once I stole a car and had that 'oh, right' moment when the cars control like ****, I bailed. Hoping for better from V.

This looks interesting - sort of wish it wasn't a tired undercover cop story, but I could see picking this up in a Steam sale...maybe Christmas?

Having seen this game running a lot on a 360 I have to say that it looked really good, badly let down by dodgy camera angles and "gamey" driving (like running smack into a fence on a bike at high speed and not falling off). Also, where are the choppers with mini-guns?

You do come off now and again and you die because of it, I've been really enjoying it, like the environments, voice acting and general control, it plays really well on the 360 pad (on PC) and the some of the stuff you hear and do is quite funny and gotta love the melee combat, quite violent in places but fits, not OTT, many reviews liken its combat to Batman, I really must play those games too I have bought them after all :D

Engine runs well, cooked my 680, only game I have had to clock it down for, god knows why but it overboosts with this title to speeds I have not seen.

Fighting this whoops every other games ass in a big way, even batman. :)

Freerunning, it's no assassins creed or mirrors edge but it is good & works fine once you get used to the control, same with the fighting.

Driving this falls short of GTA but has some nice things that make up for it with being able to ram with cars & able to jump hijack vehicles while speeding which was implemented very nicely, high speed drive shooting worked excellent too thanks to the slow motion.

I like the idea of clearing bad patches of a city & then hacking the CCTV to point out dealers, similar to san andreas gang thing but on the right side of the law with more to it. :)

In my honest opinion GTA finally has a very real contender here but it is the first of I hope many, when they perfect any of the flaws in this game especially the camera they will have a big winner on their hands but it's already a winner to me, on the run up to the game I purely thought m'eh it'll be pretty crap but it proven me very wong about the Hong Kong action game. :D

Many whining about the DLC with it all being stuff you unlock in the game anyway except for the red envelopes of money & the retro outfit but they don't have to buy it & just wait for the DLC that does add something good & new to the game, would have been worse if they had mission DLC at release IMO.

Excellent game.

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