Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Ford Focus Forum, Ford Focus ST Forum, Ford Focus RS Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:

Password

Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:

Confirm Password:

Email Address

Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:

Log-in

User Name

Remember Me?

Password

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.

Additional Options

Miscellaneous Options

Automatically parse links in text

Topic Review (Newest First)

03-20-2013 07:02 PM

choate

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdbertrand

Mobile 1 full synthetic high mileage - $30 at walmart for 5 quart jug.
Motorcraft oil filter (focus) -Walmart around $6 or 8 bucks.
I've got my own oil pan, ramps, and oil filter wrench.
takes about half an hour.
so on average half an hour and at most 38 bucks every 7 or 8k miles.
you do the math.

Same here. Drive on ramps. Have tools, oil pan, new filter, paper towels, rubber gloves and oil ready, take out drain plug, wait 10 min or so, put plug back in, take off oil filter w/ gloves, put on new filter, pour in oil, back off ramps, and done. Not too hard at all and like you said Wally World has the 5 quarts for like $28 and I think my purolator filter was seriously $3.99 or $4.99

02-26-2013 03:34 PM

BlckZTS

I run synthetic in my expedition for a reason, it comes in 0w-30! the truck needs thinner oil than a 5 weight in the winter for better start-up protection! I know its not a focus but still, it runs noticeably smoother and starts are a lot easier on the engine!

02-26-2013 02:51 PM

RonMaiden

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueFocusSE5

What brand and type of synthetic oil are you putting through only 4,000 - 6,000 miles of use and only changing it once per year? That's severe service usage. Cellulose/paper filtration media secured by glue inside an oil filter also might not hold up to a years worth of severe service usage. Something to consider. Be careful.

I really appreciate the concern but with my 4Runner I was seeing about 8000-9000 miles a year up until recently and that mileage dropped in half the last two years and I still just change it about every 10 months and I run M1 with a Puralator PureOne or M1 filter. I also had a compression/leakdown test last year and the results were quite good and still within factory tolerances which is great for a truck with 177k on it. Still as strong as my mom's '99 Limited 4Runner with 90k on the odo.

With the Focus at the moment we get dealer changes @5000 miles for the next 3 years so not going to worry about it til I switch to synthetic when those run out.

02-26-2013 01:58 PM

BlueFocusSE5

Cellulose/paper oil filtration media secured with glue.

02-26-2013 01:51 PM

felixthecat

Quote:

Originally Posted by adam6976

Well ITS was at our Walmart hate that place ,anyway they have ford motorcraft 5 w 20 full syn 5 qt jug for $17 . I have always ran castrol gtx in all my other cars , never used full syn . Just askin for opinions. Keep on

I use Mobil 1 w/ no issues. I've used Mobil 1 in my cars for yrs & yrs. Remember the cans? Wallyworld has 5qtr juggs for $30.00 & they also have motorcraft filters.

02-26-2013 01:46 PM

BlueFocusSE5

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonMaiden

$90 for a synthetic oild change? That's rediculous and I changed both my 4Riunner and Focus with synthetic and spent less than $70 for both.

I am comfortable with changing my synthetic once a year (cars have about 4-6000 miles each at the change) but with my very raced turbo Eclipse I was changing the synthetic about every 4000 miles since it was a high severe duty drive nearly all the time.

What brand and type of synthetic oil are you putting through only 4,000 - 6,000 miles of use and only changing it once per year? That's severe service usage. Cellulose/paper filtration media secured by glue inside an oil filter also might not hold up to a years worth of severe service usage. Something to consider. Be careful.

02-26-2013 12:42 PM

RonMaiden

$90 for a synthetic oild change? That's rediculous and I changed both my 4Riunner and Focus with synthetic and spent less than $70 for both.

I am comfortable with changing my synthetic once a year (cars have about 4-6000 miles each at the change) but with my very raced turbo Eclipse I was changing the synthetic about every 4000 miles since it was a high severe duty drive nearly all the time.

02-26-2013 12:15 PM

cdbertrand

Mobile 1 full synthetic high mileage - $30 at walmart for 5 quart jug.
Motorcraft oil filter (focus) -Walmart around $6 or 8 bucks.
I've got my own oil pan, ramps, and oil filter wrench.
takes about half an hour.
so on average half an hour and at most 38 bucks every 7 or 8k miles.
you do the math.

02-26-2013 12:02 AM

BlueFocusSE5

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxMichaelAnthony

Change my oil every 4,500-5,000 miles and average 32ish mpg. Might want to redo your math.

Prime example of why not to listen to this synthetic shenanigans. Anyone who pushes that much and takes that much time to explain it more than likely has something to gain. Never take advise from someone who will gain from it.

Oh and this cost crap. Local shop charges $30 for dino change $90 for synthetic change. So synthetic cost 3 times as much at that shop and I can go 3 times the miles but synthetic will save me money? Makes perfect sense!

Im out.

Oh, so now it's $30 per oil change for dead dinosaur oil? Is that including tax? Okay. 265,000 miles divided by 5,000 mile drain intervals = 53 oil changes X $30 per oil change = $1,590 for cheap petroleum oil change costs. Still far more costly than the high quality synthetic oil and that's not even factoring in the improved fuel economy a top quality synthetic oil typically delivers. Those are the facts my friend and facts reveal the truth, instead of the mis-truths of ignorance.

Whatever auto center is charging you that much for oil changes, you're getting hammered hard. Shop around and start using lower cost extended drain synthetic oils and save your money.

You had said.

Quote:

My car has 265,000. Has never had waste of money synthetic in it. With a good filter and proper change intervals for the quality of oil you're using, it'll run forever. Don't fall for all that "research" saying synthetic is better. It's all bias so they can get better deals from their oil distributers.

Yes, you're out, because the calculator has proven that regular drain interval petroleum oils are not a lower cost choice than top quality extended drain synthetic oils, at all.

02-25-2013 11:57 PM

BlueFocusSE5

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjboston5676

so if i run my car for a few minutes to warm the oil and then change it takig 10 minutes, that in that 10 min period every drop of oil has come out of the engine? There is no longer any oil anywhere at all? and if u put oil in the filter before you put it on its not primed? how if this any different than starting up after the car has sat there for a period of time?

No, not at all. Most all of the oil pressure is lost, which is why an engine makes clattering noises on initial start up after an oil change and that noise is damaging metal-to-metal wear going on because of virtually zero oil pressure. The additional problem of having quite a bit of old, contaminated oil left inside the engine to combine with and contaminate the new oil being poured into the engine, is a one-two punch for the engine to get hit with. Ten minutes isn't near enough time to allow the old oil to drain out of the engine. Up to about 1/2 quart more old, contaminated oil will drain out of an engine if allowed to continue draining for an hour or so. Not allowing enough time for the old, contaminated oil to drain out of the engine before pouring new oil into it, is tantamount to taking a shower with your underwear on. This does an engine no favors.

Even with a primed oil filter, that doesn't eliminate dry starts with virtually zero oil pressure. It does help to reduce it a bit, but not eliminate it. If dry starts after an oil change didn't present a problem, some people wouldn't be bothering to prime the oil filter. A vehicle sitting for a period of time doesn't remove oil pressure from the oiling system, not unless the oil filter used is so cheap that it doesn't even have an anti-drain back valve. Excessive oil changes isn't doing an engine any favors.

This thread has more than 10 replies.
Click here to review the whole thread.

Focus Fanatics Ford Focus Forum offers many fun ways for you to engage with other Ford Focus Owners from across the world. Whether it be about the aftermarket performance modifications, technical how-to's, European tuned suspension or awesome fuel economy similar to the Audi S3, Ford Fusion and Acura TLX. You can find all Ford Focus and Focus ST related information here. Join our Ford Focus discussion forums and chat with local Focus enthusiasts in your area. Challenger Hellcat - Charger Hellcat