And either way what's your problem Will? What you are doing is more backseat moderating - patronizing new members than just voicing your opinion. Just because you didn't get it doesn't mean others shouldn't have the chance to

But above all Doomforge is right. It's all in the attitude and one can spot qp hunting tendencies from miles away ____________
Being human is a roller coaster ride of emotions during rainstorms and sunshine, sprinkled with moments when you can almost reach the stars.

With all due respect but what Doom is implying is nonsense. The incentive is a QP so naturally anyone doing it would be doing it for a QP and perhaps to help out too. It's why she's promising a QP. It's an incentive. No harm in that but most certainly the reason anyone will be doing it. And if a post is good should be all that matters... even if it is done with the idea to get a QP. It's certainly not the most "noble" thing to do but the mods themselves say they're for "quality" posts. A quality post is not defined by its intentions.
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"The superior man is modest in
his speech but exceeds in his
actions." Confucius

Trust me, Doom knows. Suffice to say that he is not talking about actual qp posts, like I said some things are transparent. Either way let's please stop this silly discussion yes? That's not what this thread is about ____________
Being human is a roller coaster ride of emotions during rainstorms and sunshine, sprinkled with moments when you can almost reach the stars.

You don't seem to understand. Whether an attempt is obvious or not doesn't make the content of the post any worse. But yayaayaya I'll shut up now.
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"The superior man is modest in
his speech but exceeds in his
actions." Confucius

And the moment somebody like Shyranis says that if they will do it they might get a QP then people are obviously going to do it for that. Mac responded in that way. I have no issue with helping the community but the common thing with this type of thread is that people will do it for a QP whereas another idea like something creative would not be like that.

Also, Elvin, I am not being patronising. It's a discussion, albeit a disgareement with Azagal. I have no problem. I thought this is a forum where we can discuss and agree and/or disagree with one another. So if I am to disagree with something, I have to shutup because somebody like you will think it's patronising? Sorry mate, not how I work and you know that. I was just voicing my opi9nion. Also, Azagal is hardly new. I couldn't care less about QPs to be honest but if people are to do it for a QP and not because they actually want to contribute then that is where I have a problem. I was also not backseat moderating. I was giving my opinion on why I disagree with if somebody was to do this, that they'd get a QP. Understand now?

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~Ticking away the moments that
make up a dull day, Fritter and
waste the hours in an off-hand
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But you seem to give the impression of only an annoying noob would do that or don't think you deserve that, I'm old school and I didn't or something along those lines. That is more likely to cause people to retreat back into their shells than let them be and discover themselves if you get my drift. Much the same when someone disses a qp as not being worthy in his eyes, any opinion is valid but eventually it's not up to him nor does it leave a good taste to the one who gets it. I'm just saying you could be a little more considerate.
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Being human is a roller coaster ride of emotions during rainstorms and sunshine, sprinkled with moments when you can almost reach the stars.

Well I'm not overly inconsiderate, I just say things how I see them whether people like it or not. I just disagree with the QP thing here. Nothing more. Nothing less. Whether I'm right or wrong is another issue altogether but that doesn't mean I should be silent because some people don't like what I say.

Now, I think pretty much everybody has said their piece here, lets not dwell on this discussion anymore as we both know each others opinions and all. Fair enough? ____________
~Ticking away the moments that
make up a dull day, Fritter and
waste the hours in an off-hand
way~