One of the most important-and most maligned-contributions of both the multicultural and LGBT movements of the past decades has been how the attention to minority experiences impacts everyone, not just minorities. African-Americans are not the only ones with a race; women are not the only ones with a gender; immigrants aren't the only ones who've left their homes to forge a new identity; gays aren't the only ones with a sexual orientation-or a secret to conceal.

And straight non-ethnic young males get jack shiat when it comes to PC America handing out gold stars to its precious little snowflakes. Why on Earth would we be depressed?

SpdrJay:Speaking as a bi-guy, I can attest to the fact that relationships with BOTH sexes are equally filled with BS and issues.

Interesting. As a strait guy that has no sexual interest in menFrom what Ive seen of gay guys twinks are basically like cattier prissier biatches than women.Why for the love of fsm you would want a bigger biatch with less holes and no tits I fail to comprehend.

Purely anecdotal, but the gay men I've known in my life all seem to have an ability to bounce back from setbacks better and quicker than us straight guys.

There's definitely an emotional toughness that develops from all the bullshiat they have had to deal with in their lives. Whereas a straight white guy that's faced relatively few challenges in his life that has his heart broken for the first time? That can get ugly. Real ugly.

No sh*t.Black men are darker complected.Tall men's heads are closer to space.Fishmongers are more likely to smell like fish.So people who are called "happy" are less likely to be depressed? Wow! Amazing detective work there, Lou.

Now That's What I Call a Taco!:Purely anecdotal, but the gay men I've known in my life all seem to have an ability to bounce back from setbacks better and quicker than us straight guys.

There's definitely an emotional toughness that develops from all the bullshiat they have had to deal with in their lives. Whereas a straight white guy that's faced relatively few challenges in his life that has his heart broken for the first time? That can get ugly. Real ugly.

On that note, when it just says gay, do we automatically exclude lesbians? Shouldn't gay be inclusive to all homosexual relationships? Or do we assume gay means men because we have "homosexual" to use and it wasn't used? Does gay and/or lesbian have different connotations than homosexual or can/should the terms be used interchangeably?

The number of participants isn't necessarily the problem, but the selection method is. A small number of participants is often easier to get for preliminary research. You don't go out and try to collect a thousand people if you haven't tried it with less than a hundred first. The problem is that with the 87 people you'd need to be able to draw a few homosexuals from a large enough group to get anything like a random sampling. With the word of mouth and fliers the researchers were probably just glad that they got any homosexuals at all. If my experience is worth anything they probably got the bare minimum amount of people in the homosexual group and filled it up with 50 to 60 straight people.

Wolf892:Uchiha_Cycliste: Wolf892: I go to school with three gay guys, and they seem stupid happy all the time...I wish I had that kind of joy in my life....gahhhhhh.

who would have thought that not worrying about pregnancy and periods made such a big deal?

How does that explain the lesbians....or are they happy because their partner isn't grossed out by their bleeding and spewing of mucus each month?

can't answer that. to be honest I'm lame and DNRTFA. Just going through the thread we only seem to be talking about menSimilarly, I know that I'm not bothered at all about my gf's period.Though it took some time for the idea of a period to not be icky anymore; but I was able to shed those concerns long ago. I think it helps that my gf and I have been able to and have talked frankly with each other for some time. Even though we've only been dating since July, we've been best friends since we were 6 so we've had a long time to get to know each other and learn to communicate and to get over whatever and just like each other. For a long while now she sometimes mentions when she's having her period as it often affects her energy levels a lot (anemia from the period) meaning I don't get to talk to her as often after work, and it rarely effects her mood a little... that make sense at all?

tinfoil-hat maggie:Uchiha_Cycliste: log_jammin: Uchiha_Cycliste: On that note, when it just says gay, do we automatically exclude lesbians?

when I hear "gay" it's either a lesbian or a gay man. Burt for some reason when I hear "homosexual" i think "gay man" but never a lesbian. I don't know why.

Interesting I would have considered the common lexicon to interpret things the opposite way gay - >men and homosexual -> men/women.

What does everyone else think?

I agree I often at say a bar say I'm gay and well no one confuses me with a gay man and I've heard it often from others as well it's just easier than saying everything else.

do *you* consider gay and homosexual to be 100% interchangeable or do you think the words have different connotations? Do they have a different feel to you? Is one more casual and easier to say or use?

Uchiha_Cycliste:log_jammin: Uchiha_Cycliste: On that note, when it just says gay, do we automatically exclude lesbians?

when I hear "gay" it's either a lesbian or a gay man. Burt for some reason when I hear "homosexual" i think "gay man" but never a lesbian. I don't know why.

Interesting I would have considered the common lexicon to interpret things the opposite way gay - >men and homosexual -> men/women.

What does everyone else think?

I agree. When I hear "homosexual" I don't think of a particular gender. When I hear "gay" I usually assume male homosexual unless contex seems to indicate a broader meaning. If someone said, "gay rights rally," I would think of a mixed-gender crowd. If someone said, "there's a gay policeman beating the shiat out of Jerry Springer on channel 10 right now," I'd picture a male policeman wielding the truncheon.

Uchiha_Cycliste:Wolf892: Uchiha_Cycliste: Wolf892: I go to school with three gay guys, and they seem stupid happy all the time...I wish I had that kind of joy in my life....gahhhhhh.

who would have thought that not worrying about pregnancy and periods made such a big deal?

How does that explain the lesbians....or are they happy because their partner isn't grossed out by their bleeding and spewing of mucus each month?

can't answer that. to be honest I'm lame and DNRTFA. Just going through the thread we only seem to be talking about menSimilarly, I know that I'm not bothered at all about my gf's period.Though it took some time for the idea of a period to not be icky anymore; but I was able to shed those concerns long ago. I think it helps that my gf and I have been able to and have talked frankly with each other for some time. Even though we've only been dating since July, we've been best friends since we were 6 so we've had a long time to get to know each other and learn to communicate and to get over whatever and just like each other. For a long while now she sometimes mentions when she's having her period as it often affects her energy levels a lot (anemia from the period) meaning I don't get to talk to her as often after work, and it rarely effects her mood a little... that make sense at all?

I had a chicken telling me well, I'll stop there anyway she seemed very positive about periods. Strange little girl. anyway not really everyone is different and yes hormones are also fluctuating s well which can effect energy and such.

If you don't know what I mean buy a chicken don't ask, that was weird but tempting. Well not really.

Uchiha_Cycliste:tinfoil-hat maggie: Uchiha_Cycliste: log_jammin: Uchiha_Cycliste: On that note, when it just says gay, do we automatically exclude lesbians?

when I hear "gay" it's either a lesbian or a gay man. Burt for some reason when I hear "homosexual" i think "gay man" but never a lesbian. I don't know why.

Interesting I would have considered the common lexicon to interpret things the opposite way gay - >men and homosexual -> men/women.

What does everyone else think?

I agree I often at say a bar say I'm gay and well no one confuses me with a gay man and I've heard it often from others as well it's just easier than saying everything else.

do *you* consider gay and homosexual to be 100% interchangeable or do you think the words have different connotations? Do they have a different feel to you? Is one more casual and easier to say or use?

Well saying gay is easier and yea I guess I do but granted I'm really bi or bi-sexual although really I learned some time ago I was pan-sexual. So well for me in passing it's easier to say I'm gay but yea it's leaving a lot out right?

tinfoil-hat maggie:Uchiha_Cycliste: tinfoil-hat maggie: Uchiha_Cycliste: log_jammin: Uchiha_Cycliste: On that note, when it just says gay, do we automatically exclude lesbians?

when I hear "gay" it's either a lesbian or a gay man. Burt for some reason when I hear "homosexual" i think "gay man" but never a lesbian. I don't know why.

Interesting I would have considered the common lexicon to interpret things the opposite way gay - >men and homosexual -> men/women.

What does everyone else think?

I agree I often at say a bar say I'm gay and well no one confuses me with a gay man and I've heard it often from others as well it's just easier than saying everything else.

do *you* consider gay and homosexual to be 100% interchangeable or do you think the words have different connotations? Do they have a different feel to you? Is one more casual and easier to say or use?

Well saying gay is easier and yea I guess I do but granted I'm really bi or bi-sexual although really I learned some time ago I was pan-sexual. So well for me in passing it's easier to say I'm gay but yea it's leaving a lot out right?