If this is your first visit, be sure to
check out the FAQ by clicking the
link above. You may have to register
before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages,
select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Not to knock your work but it definitely looks like it is a male magpie if you know what I am saying

Hah, don't worry about it. That's one of the problems I still have. I haven't yet figured how to do the nose cavity in the skull without the "sacks". But I'm hoping that once I get started with the legs I can get rid of that "sack"ines in his nether regions.

Laku, the adjustments you are making do bring more detail to the bird but I feel they take away from the original design. In other words if it aint broke why fix it. I only say this because I know how much time can be involved in something like this (for me anyways cause all I have is an old Paint program from 2007 or so). i'm not saying your work doesnt look good I just think the minor changes we made were enough and didnt take away from the original design...Magpie+Skull= WIN

Laku, the adjustments you are making do bring more detail to the bird but I feel they take away from the original design. In other words if it aint broke why fix it. I only say this because I know how much time can be involved in something like this (for me anyways cause all I have is an old Paint program from 2007 or so). i'm not saying your work doesnt look good I just think the minor changes we made were enough and didnt take away from the original design...Magpie+Skull= WIN

Well this has only taken me few hours spread over few days. So it hasn't taken that much time. And as said I do it just for fun, it acts as a nice break to my day job as 3D artist.

As to what originally prompted me to try out something little different were that I felt that although fine the original design wasn't yet there. For me I found that the flat even black lines weren't lively enough and made it look bit too crude. Also there were parts of the design that didn't really translate that well to bird anatomy and I wanted to try if it could be addressed.
It may or may not work in the end but that's just part of the fun.

That being said I do realize that all this might just be my professional baggage talking. I some times do tend to look at pictures over critically because analyzing them is something I need to do on daily basis.

As a side note I do hope that everyone does feel free to point out all the things they like or don't like.

I fully understand where you are coming from. I'm a pen and ink artist at heart so it's often tough for me to switch hats. With pen, like with 3d work, detail and accuracy are paramount. 3D even more so because it has to look right from every angle no matter how it is posed (I mess around in blender a bit but my skill set is very limited). Graphic design, logo design in particular, is about distilling the image down to the minimum amount of visual information necessary for viewers to get the point. Yes, our Magpie has some anatomy issues (no feet) but he meets all the icon-o-graphic requirements (actually he's slightly too detailed, but we're not a big corporation so who cares) and the two basic elements (skull and bird) are clear even when scaled down to avatar size. Talons would only serve to obfuscate the skull.

I think I like this one better than the first with the AO Army Chuff Chuff patch. Also I tried to do the shirts in Grey/ Blue but it left white blocks around the individual pictures that had White in them?

It is a little busy but I was going for a jersey look with sponsors and such. I don't know who did the patriotic Automag logo. Everything else came from this site and this thread, just trying to include some other ideas. This is definitely nothing official just something I like as another option.

It is a little busy but I was going for a jersey look with sponsors and such. I don't know who did the patriotic Automag logo. Everything else came from this site and this thread, just trying to include some other ideas. This is definitely nothing official just something I like as another option.

That's cool. I'd just like the jersey to be the best and most polished design we can come up with. Cause there's definitely enough talent in here to make it awesome. You know, before anyone rushes to order a bunch with unfinished concept.

Having said that, I realize that in the end it's unlikely to meet everyone's criteria of the "perfect" AO army jersey, and that I might very well be one of them.

i like flatliner333's idea for the shirt, was on custom ink looking and i think in order to keep costs reasonable were going to have to limit the number of items on the shirt or were going to have to buy an awful lot of them. i don't mind $25.00 for a shirt personally but over that is getting too much. i say put the large magpie on the front and the AO army on the back and keep it as simple as possible. i'm sure we wont please everybody and once we have the artwork loaded people could just order their own with as much stuff as they want on them. i im for two if we keep it fairly simple.