This is my favourite bit - about Sweet Caroline being played at Red Sox (and everywhere else)

“These days, the song’s a kind of order to be entertained, an injunction to act like you’re having a good time. Apparently Diamond never liked it anyway. Now millions of sports fans feel the same way.

The old salts at Fenway hate it. They say it’s an anthem for the “pink hat fans”, people who are happy to be at a show regardless of whether the team is winning or not. People, in short, who don’t really like sport. Or the target audience of the marketing department.”

Assume HQ refers to Twickers? Was surprised as Ive never heard them ever playing music at Try intervals. Maybe the channels of FaceBook and Twitter will be a better place to resume your ranting or the confines of McDonalds, Burger King et al for you Blucs.

quinsfan123Assume HQ refers to Twickers? Was surprised as Ive never heard them ever playing music at Try intervals. Maybe the channels of FaceBook and Twitter will be a better place to resume your ranting or the confines of McDonalds, Burger King et al for you Blucs.

Ok sure.

Your definition of rant must be different to mine. I was just posting a sport and rugby related article for people to read if they want.

In fact I only wrote two short sentences - one says “this is quite good”, the other says “here’s my favourite bit”. Some bloke at the guardian wrote the rest. If that’s a rant you must find a note for the milkman a polemic.

They play music every time anyone scores, and at the beginning and the middle and the end - and set off fireworks etc.

There was a debate recently sparked by Will Carling and others about if it’s all gone too far.

But hey - you don’t have to read it. But you do seem compelled to post about it.

quinsfan123Assume HQ refers to Twickers? Was surprised as Ive never heard them ever playing music at Try intervals. Maybe the channels of FaceBook and Twitter will be a better place to resume your ranting or the confines of McDonalds, Burger King et al for you Blucs.

quinsfan123Assume HQ refers to Twickers? Was surprised as Ive never heard them ever playing music at Try intervals. Maybe the channels of FaceBook and Twitter will be a better place to resume your ranting or the confines of McDonalds, Burger King et al for you Blucs.

Ok sure.

Your definition of rant must be different to mine. I was just posting a sport and rugby related article for people to read if they want.

In fact I only wrote two short sentences - one says “this is quite good”, the other says “here’s my favourite bit”. Some bloke at the guardian wrote the rest. If that’s a rant you must find a note for the milkman a polemic.

They play music every time anyone scores, and at the beginning and the middle and the end - and set off fireworks etc.

There was a debate recently sparked by Will Carling and others about if it’s all gone too far.

But hey - you don’t have to read it. But you do seem compelled to post about it.

Come on Blucher this a bloggers page for rugby related material not for discussing when music should and shouldn't be played cant you do that somewhere else?

quinsfan123Assume HQ refers to Twickers? Was surprised as Ive never heard them ever playing music at Try intervals. Maybe the channels of FaceBook and Twitter will be a better place to resume your ranting or the confines of McDonalds, Burger King et al for you Blucs.

Ok sure.

Your definition of rant must be different to mine. I was just posting a sport and rugby related article for people to read if they want.

In fact I only wrote two short sentences - one says “this is quite good”, the other says “here’s my favourite bit”. Some bloke at the guardian wrote the rest. If that’s a rant you must find a note for the milkman a polemic.

They play music every time anyone scores, and at the beginning and the middle and the end - and set off fireworks etc.

There was a debate recently sparked by Will Carling and others about if it’s all gone too far.

But hey - you don’t have to read it. But you do seem compelled to post about it.

Come on Blucher this a bloggers page for rugby related material not for discussing when music should and shouldn't be played cant you do that somewhere else?

Not sure where to start. It’s marked OT.

It was a big debate in rugby last year.

Telegraph, rugby world, and many others ran pieces about music at Twickenham England rugby games and if it’s a good or bad thing.

If you think this thread is irrelevant to a rugby forum then you must have missed a lot of others on here!

The first time I'd seen sweet caroline at Twickenham was the World Cup opening ceremony, before the TV coverage started, to warm the crowd up. The whole stadium did a sweet caroline singalong followed by Jerusalem - the latter being sung by 82,000 was an unbelievable moment. Sweet Caroline seems to have been picked up as the Twickenham song of choice for half time as a result of that, though obviously has been common in sport generally for some time.

Personally I enjoy the occasional music after England tries - but playing something after every single score is grating.

The one thing that I always feel is wrong when playing music at the Stoop is that we only play music when Quins score and it is quiet when the visitors score.
Now, I know that this potentially gives a home ground advantage.
But, I'm not sure that it really does.
Also, I like to see a good try being scored even if it is being scored by the visitors. Surely, there should be music played then?

(blucherquin - as for the O/T debate, there seems to be a few posters taking (groundless) exception to your posts recently - did you do something in someone's cornflakes recently?)

But here’s the thing I find interesting on the original debate - football, for all some rugby fans like to judge sometimes, doesn’t feel the need to blast out music when a goal is scored - the crowd is everything.

Recently Seeet Caroline has been switched from the start of second half to after full time with Hey Jude. Fans walking down the stairs (after a win like England Wales) where shouting out the tune with joy. What on earth is wrong with that ?

I find the use of an overly shrill pop/opera crossover signer to sign the anthem more annoyin than the music after scores. For some reason they always feel the need to go up an octave on the last word. It is awful, and completely unnecessary. I understand having it for the visiting team whose fans might not be numerous enough to belot out their anthem (though that certainly doesn't apply to our Celtic friends), but the Twickenham crowd is more than capable of signing the anthem without Laura Wright or FMR drowning them out.

I don't mind the music after tries quite so much, but find the music after penalties and cvonversaions annoying for some reason

I have stopped going to the Anniversary games for this very reason. As soon as an event is over there is ear splitting music played. It is then impossible to talk to the guy next to you about what you have just seen or are about to see.

For some reason the people in charge of some events think that we all need loud music blasted at us to feel entertained, they cannot grasp that to sports fans the SPORT is what they find entertaining!

Something that is really annoying me at the minute (rant coming), is that since the back of the North Stand was developed, the bars have been playing loud and shtty dance music during the game. Loud enough to be distracting.

Personally I think it’s a bit disrespectful of the players on the pitch and the supporters trying to watch the game...... or am I being an old fart like the rest of you?

Granite Beard ThundercockSomething that is really annoying me at the minute (rant coming), is that since the back of the North Stand was developed, the bars have been playing loud and shtty dance music during the game. Loud enough to be distracting.
Personally I think it’s a bit disrespectful of the players on the pitch and the supporters trying to watch the game...... or am I being an old fart like the rest of you?

Steady - some of us are just farts.

As I said, they don’t drown out football matches with music - so just interested why rugby felt the need to do it?

Presumably at HQ it’s to wake everyone up and for 60% of the crowd they won’t know what a try is so it’s useful to have something to help them follow the action....

Once upon a time, the music really was part of the matchday experience. Playing "Montagues and Capulets" before Quins/Wasps games. Playing "Combine Harvester" when Glaws visited. Stuff like that was a bit insulting, but was all part of the fun - unless of course we got a tonking!

It seems to have become part and parcel of it now, sadly, and the lack of creativity is also disappointing. I mean, playing House of Pain's Jump Around when a try is scored makes much more sense than some of the other nonsense that comes out of the speakers.

Is it necessary, though? No, probably not. Can we do anything about it? No, probably not.

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