The Edmonton Oilers grabbed a bunch of Condors for the rest of the playoffs today, and made (I believe) an astute move in sending Jesse Puljujarvi to the World Hockey Championships. This little break in the schedule gives us a chance to discuss the non-starters (including the callups) on the current roster. Let’s have a look.

G Nick Ellis. I think this recall is an indication the organization noticed his strong pro debut. Ellis finished with a .918SP, good for No. 4 among AHL rookies. Laurent Brossoit will get first shot at the backup job this fall, but how will things look this time next year?

LD Griffin Reinhart. I may be wrong, but suspect GR is still in the plans for the Oilers. Why? PC likes defensive defensemen and he likes bigger players (Reinhart has been 6.04, 212 the whole time). He is my bet for 7D to open camp in the fall.

RD Mark Fayne. One more year to go on his deal, Oilers will probably try to offload him to the Vegas Golden Knights. I still think he can help, but there’s no sense in bringing him back for another year of AHL play. A buyout seems reasonable.

LD Jordan Oesterle. I think he may have the brightest future among these three defenders, partly because of foot speed. If I’m George McPhee, the two most attractive Oilers free agents this summer are Oesterle and Tyler Pitlick.

LC Jujhar Khaira. I’m disappointed the Oilers haven’t included him in the rotation more, but also mindful that his level of play after returning wasn’t at previous levels. I believe the club should protect him in the expansion draft.

LC Anton Lander. You can make a strong case that Lander should be in tomorrow night’s lineup and I would concur. He can PK, he has some edge to him and he has scored at acceptable rates in recent NHL seasons.

L Joey Laleggia. This is a nice touch, and I think a good sign the organization is paying attention to minor league success. Laleggia, as we have discussed, spiked offensively when moved to forward. It could be a flash in the pan, best to see how this plays out by signing him. This recall shows faith in this player.

R Jesse Puljujarvi. Oilers say they can recall him if needed, but I like the fact he will be playing. JP had a tough start to the year (recovery from surgery) and posted a less than dynamic minor league year. A strong showing at the WHC’s could be just the ticket.

Leon Draisaitl is way smarter than this and frankly he’s not that kind of player. He did make a terrible decision and paid for it last night with a significant in-game penalty. I don’t think there’s much to say beyond it, hopefully Leon and his teammates can figure out why they keep getting penalties.

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If one is going to do bad things, one has to do it with clean hits OR be sneaky dirty, like the douchebag down the highway. One also has to pick ones moments better when one wants to show the opposition that one might be capable of “crazy”. Controlled “crazy” means one is still in control. Uncontrolled “crazy” means the other guy is in control.

If one is going to do bad things, one has to do it with clean hits OR be sneaky dirty, like the douchebag down the highway.One also has to pick ones moments better when one wants to show the opposition that one might be capable of “crazy”.Controlled “crazy” means one is still in control.Uncontrolled “crazy” means the other guy is in control.

Lander is also good at getting under the skin of the opposition, something we can use. He is gritty, chippy, and can play up here and is a definite improvement on Desharnais. Add him to fourth line, rest McDavid for the PK so he is more fresh and doesn’t wear down.

Anyone know why I might be having video issues on my TV, with video coming from a PC laptop via HDMI, and playing on iTunes?

The playback seems pretty good on the PC, but gets choppy and glitchy every now and then through the HDMI on the TV?

Any chance it might your internet connection? I know mine at peak traffic times can bottleneck and this makes streaming choppy. If it’s not the internet speed, it could be hardware, but more info is needed about the specs of your PC and TV.

DBO:
Lander is also good at getting under the skin of the opposition, something we can use. He is gritty, chippy, and can play up here and is a definite improvement on Desharnais. Add him to fourth line, rest McDavid for the PK so he is more fresh and doesn’t wear down.

#FreeAnton!!!!!!!!!!!

From the previous thread in case you didn’t see it… I wrote something just for you:

I know I’m a broken record, but as the secretary/treasurer of the Anton Lander Appreciation Society (ALAS… as in alas, he’ll never actually be set free…DBO is the sitting president, but one day I’ll defeat him), I hope he draws in for DD tomorrow night. It won’t happen, but a man can dream.
#FreeAnton (am I doing this right?)

The 5-on-3 penalty and everything beyond, sure. The Oilers deserved what they got at that point and took it on the chin.

But up until then, the Oilers were not the “veteran team” so the 50/50 calls just won’t go their way naturally. I can think of maybe 5 or 6 penalties that were assessed to the Oilers in the first 3 games that could be called “undeserved”.

I agree, the Sharks probably deserve an advantage in calls due to out skating the Oilers at times, but at no point do I think it’s fair to be bordering on a two-to-one advantage in penalties.

Caller Zen: Any chance it might your internet connection? I know mine at peak traffic times can bottleneck and thismakes streaming choppy.If it’s not the internet speed, it could be hardware, but more info is needed about the specs of your PC and TV.

This is for stuff I purchased and have already downloaded to my laptop (HP Pavilion). My TV is an LG, 47 inch LCD (it says 120Hz “Trumotion” but I have that turned off, so as I understand it it should be 60 Hz – the computer won’t let me change that to any higher than 60Hz in any event.

“The Edmonton Oilers grabbed a bunch of Condors for the rest of the playoffs today, and made (I believe) an astute move in sending Jesse Puljujarvi to the World Hockey Championships.”

I’m in full agreement with you.

“LD Griffin Reinhart. I may be wrong, but suspect GR is still in the plans for the Oilers. Why? PC likes defensive defensemen and he likes bigger players (Reinhart has been 6.04, 212 the whole time). He is my bet for 7D to open camp in the fall.”

I feel that Griffin Reinhart would be the choice from the Oilers by the Vegas Golden Knights, unless Chiarelli makes a trade with them inducing them to choose another player.

speeds: The resolution is the same, both the computer and TV are set at 60 Hz.It’s currently set up to clone the display to the TV, I’ll change that and see what happens

60hz is the refresh rate I believe, I think what JDI was saying was make sure the resolutions ie:1080p 780p 480etc, are matching, although I believe if they’re not matching you probably won’t get any picture.

If you ahven’t already tried it, I’d test it with another HDMI cord, I had a similar problem once and it turned out the actual cord was what was faulty.

You may also want to look into how old your video card drivers are on your computer and update those if they’re not up to date.

Also not bad. I just bought a used 2012 HP Elitebook, and I was impressed with how recent a lot of the drivers were on HP’s website, and also with how easy it was to find and download them. Entered the model number, and clicked on drivers and software. They even had a very recent BIOS update.

Can I have a bit of context? Like, are we talking who would I prefer taken in the expansion draft?

If so, I think I’d rather Fayne vs. Griff, though it might be fun if they somehow took both. Like LT, I think Griff is going to be the 7D on the Oilers next season. I hope the kid makes it, I really do.

I would honestly hate to see Lander in Vegas, despite the fact that it’s likely his last potential chance at a long (or at least viable) NHL career.

He’s going to go to Russia, thrive in the K where speed is less of an issue and his big hockey brain will be valued. He’ll have the time and space he needs to be successful, and given the lack of NHL participation in the Olympics, I think Lander will have a very good shot at wearing the tre kroner sweater in Korea next winter. And with the KHL schedule being a lot shorter, he’ll have more time to spend with his family and will certainly be much closer to them now that they’ve returned to Sweden as well.

This is why I hope he draws into the lineup tomorrow – it’s likely the only chance he’s going to get to be in the NHL playoffs in what I hope will still be a long and productive career.

Kinger_Oil.redux: My context is expansion: In the eyes of LV, :
1) Griff or Lander
2) Griff or JJ
3) Griff or Letestu
4) Griff or Fayne
– None pop out at me as “oh my, we need this guy”
– If we lose Griff so be it: save his sunk cost, the 7th D for next year doesn’t move our needle (or LV’s)

1) I think Griff as Lander is going to the KHL next year.
2) I think Griff over JJ, although both will be cheap.
3) Cheap Griff over older more expensive Letestu.
4) Can’t see Vegas choosing Fayne. Older, slow, expensive.

– If we lose Griff so be it: save his sunk cost, the 7th D for next year doesn’t move our needle (or LV’s)

Agreed – none of the options are necessarily stunning. I have a feeling it’s going to be Pouliot that’s taken in the end. He’s versatile, checks off a lot of boxes, and McPhee likely knows Pouliot’s history from his days both in WAS and NYI. I think McPhee will see Pou’s season as an aberration, rather than a player in decline. Plus the salary helps to ensure they reach the cap floor.

Todd Macallan:
The intro and anthems in Calgary might be the worst I’ve ever heard, and this is me trying to be as objective as possible, considering it’s the Flames (spits).

Edit: JDI beat me to it.

On your “recommendation” I went back to the intro music, & you are correct, it is atrocious in the deeper sense of being an actual atrocity. This series needs to end tonight just for that reason alone. #MakeItStop

I think Khaira is alright, and has probably outperformed his draft selection, but is he really someone you’d want to protect in the expansion draft? I don’t see enough speed or skill for him to have a significant career.

This is a response to the trade proposal that Jethro Tull has mentioned in the last two threads. I believe his proposal was Nuge, Nurse, JP and 2017 1st for Duschene and Barrie.
I think we can say that both Avalanche players have hit their ceilings. Duschene is a very good 1st line forward but I don’t think you can call him a franchise player. He is fast, elusive and good on face offs. Barrie is a second pairing Dman who can run a powerplay. He is a very good offensive player but has struggled to defend the last couple of years and is a little undersized.
I would be happy to acquire Duschene, depending on cost, but I don’t really see the need for Barrie anymore. I like Klefbom on the powerplay and would prefer a better, more physical, defender to pair with Sekera.
There is a good chance that Nuge has hit his ceiling as well and, if so, does not score as well as Duschene, and is not as good on face offs. I think he did outscore him this year and is signed for 4 more years compared to Duchene s 2. He is also a couple of years younger.
My big concern with your proposal is that the Oilers don’t really know what they have yet in Nurse or JP. Even if Nurse tops out as a second pairing Dman and JP as a second line winger that is a lot of quality depth to give up for Duschene and a mediocre defender. Add in a first rounder and factor in what Duschene may cost in two years and this deal just smells bad
It will look positively hideous if Nurse turns into a first pairing guy and JP becomes a first line winger.
On a side note, Eichel has a lot more value when you factor in years of team control and the fact that he probably is a franchise type player. Doubt very much that Buffalo is looking to trade him.

Georges:
Whatever about the Flames. The Ducks are the most loathsome team in hockey. Greasy, goonish henchmen. May they never win anything of significance.

It seems there’s a generational divide when it comes to the fLames *spits*. The BOA has been so lukewarm for so long, that anyone that came to the Oilers from the Weight era-on probably don’t hate them as much as they should.

Those of us who were around for the 80’s though – there is no depth to which the fLames *spits* could sink as far as losing that I wouldn’t be happy to see. May the fleas from a thousand camels infest their jockstraps, and may they always finish one game out of the playoffs so they get a shitty draft position too.

I’d rather Anaheim win a cup before that sack-o-douche organization wins a single playoff game.

I’ll bet a beer that Drai goes back in on the top line tomorrow. 97 had his worst game of the series, looked frustrated even in the first and the wingers didn’t do much. That and McLellan gets last chance. And that’s the line that got us here this year. I could go on and I could be wrong but it’s just a beer 🙂

Clay: It seems there’s a generational divide when it comes to the fLames *spits*.The BOA has been so lukewarm for so long, that anyone that came to the Oilers from the Weight era-on probably don’t hate them as much as they should.

Those of us who were around for the 80’s though – there is no depth to which the fLames *spits* could sink as far as losing that I wouldn’t be happy to see.May the fleas from a thousand camels infest their jockstraps, and may they always finish one game out of the playoffs so they get a shitty draft position too.

I’d rather Anaheim win a cup before that sack-o-douche organization wins a single playoff game.

That’s like hating Darth Maul over Darth Sidious. Look at the Ducks. They ARE Neil Sheehy. Let the hate flow through you!

Clay: It seems there’s a generational divide when it comes to the fLames *spits*.The BOA has been so lukewarm for so long, that anyone that came to the Oilers from the Weight era-on probably don’t hate them as much as they should.

Those of us who were around for the 80’s though – there is no depth to which the fLames *spits* could sink as far as losing that I wouldn’t be happy to see.May the fleas from a thousand camels infest their jockstraps, and may they always finish one game out of the playoffs so they get a shitty draft position too.

I’d rather Anaheim win a cup before that sack-o-douche organization wins a single playoff game.

– You bring up an interesting point: I was an Oil fan from the cup years, but I don’t have the hate for the Flames that many Oilers fans do

– I’ve always figured that was because I didn’t live in Edmonton, so didn’t have the inferiority complex that many have in Edmonton relative to Calgary and it’s “upstart” wealth and growth that came from oil. Calgary is larger in population,wealthier, and usurped Edmonton in terms of importance despite Edmonton being the capital

-I’ve long held the thesis that Edmonton hates Calgary because of it’s relative prosperity. This is fine reason for a “hate”, don’t get me wrong

-But the Oil have won so many more Cups, their franchise so much better and storied. Calgary is a geographic rival. They built awesome teams and got their Cup the one year the Oil didn’t.

– So I guess by typing this I got it: Edmonton has a better hockey team, but the balance of power shifted in Alberta to Calgary: that’s a reason for hate: even though the Oil>>>Flames

– For instance a Toronto fan doesn’t “hate” Ottawa, they just look down at them. Same for the Tiger Cats vs. Argos. Argos are just bigger and better.

– Edmonton is just the underdog that had great teams: is that it from a local perspective?

– For me it’s just the Oilers were great in my golden years as a kid, but no goegraphic identity for me

– Sorry if this was a ramble: I find it an interesting examination: I’d love to hear from the locals?

– Sure it was great beating up on the Flames: but they basically were just no good vs us

Kinger_Oil.redux: – You bring up an interesting point: I was an Oil fan from the cup years, but I don’t have the hate for the Flames that many Oilers fans do

– I’ve always figured that was because I didn’t live in Edmonton, so didn’t have the inferiority complex that many have in Edmonton relative to Calgary and it’s “upstart” wealth and growth that came from oil.Calgary is larger in population,wealthier, and usurped Edmonton in terms of importance despite Edmonton being the capital

-I’ve long held the thesis that Edmonton hates Calgary because of it’s relative prosperity.This isfine reason for a “hate”, don’t get me wrong

-But the Oil have won so many more Cups, their franchise so much better and storied.Calgary is a geographic rival.They built awesome teams and got their Cup the one year the Oil didn’t.

– So I guess by typing this I got it: Edmonton has a better hockey team, but the balance of power shifted in Alberta to Calgary: that’s a reason for hate: even though the Oil>>>Flames

– For instance a Toronto fan doesn’t “hate” Ottawa, they just look down at them.Same for the Tiger Cats vs. Argos. Argos are just bigger and better.

– Edmonton is just the underdog that had great teams: is that it from a local perspective?

– For me it’s just the Oilers were great in my golden years as a kid, but no goegraphic identity for me

– Sorry if this was a ramble: I find it an interesting examination: I’d love to hear from the locals?

– Sure it was great beating up on the Flames: but they basically were just no good vs us

– I’ve always figured that was because I didn’t live in Edmonton, so didn’t have the inferiority complex that many have in Edmonton relative to Calgary and it’s “upstart” wealth and growth that came from oil.Calgary is larger in population,wealthier, and usurped Edmonton in terms of importance despite Edmonton being the capital

-I’ve long held the thesis that Edmonton hates Calgary because of it’s relative prosperity.This isfine reason for a “hate”, don’t get me wrong

-But the Oil have won so many more Cups, their franchise so much better and storied.Calgary is a geographic rival.They built awesome teams and got their Cup the one year the Oil didn’t.

– So I guess by typing this I got it: Edmonton has a better hockey team, but the balance of power shifted in Alberta to Calgary: that’s a reason for hate: even though the Oil>>>Flames

– Edmonton is just the underdog that had great teams: is that it from a local perspective?

– For me it’s just the Oilers were great in my golden years as a kid, but no goegraphic identity for me

– Sorry if this was a ramble: I find it an interesting examination: I’d love to hear from the locals

Local here. The “reasons” for the rivalry you’ve listed here are the types of things that ignorant people repeat because they are told this by Calgarians. Alberta is a Province with two mid-sized cities with roughly similar sized populations 300 km away from each other that have been competing against each other in sports, business and anything else you can compete in pretty much since they were founded. That is and always will be the main reason for the rivalry.

Honestly Calgary is a fine place especially for those who love to embrace the faux cowboy culture and it is a nice short drive away from the mountains, but their sports teams can fuck off and die repeatedly as far as I am concerned and it sure as hell isn’t because they have more places where you can buy a $1000 martini.

While this surely is all fantasy (there is no way TMac plays Lander now unless several injuries), I’ll play along.

At one point this year, 67-55-44 made an excellent line, and think they would be good again.
Lander and Slepy had insane chemistry in Bakersfield so why not:
19-97-29
27-93-14
67-55-44
36-51-42

With Kassian rolling, there is a chance at offence with all 4 lines. In case we forget, we may have won 2 games but have scored a grand total of 5 goals in 4 games! We need offense!!
Anyways, enough daydreaming…I will wake up before I start my recurring nightmare of Hendrick’s playoff debut tomorrow….

I was okay with the Flames winning in 1989 to be honest. The only way I have those memories in my brain is if Edmonton had a mortal enemy, so winning in 1989 was reward for being a valiant and worthy adversary. Plus, my father-in-law was a Flames fan (mostly because Lanny McDonald was a Medicine Hat Tigers F once upon a time) and I was happy for him.

After the flames blew the 4-1 lead I made some negative comments about Calgary and their fans. The next day the oilers lost 7-0. I will now say nothing negative about Calgary.

It is unfortunate that they lost. Their power play was very good. For all the narrative about how they were the better team though they were out scored 10-2 5×5 during the series so that isn’t so positive

Lowetide:
I was okay with the Flames winning in 1989 to be honest. The only way I have those memories in my brain is if Edmonton had a mortal enemy, so winning in 1989 was reward for being a valiant and worthy adversary. Plus, my father-in-law was a Flames fan (mostly because Lanny McDonald was a Medicine Hat Tigers F once upon a time) and I was happy for him.

My dad is an Oilers fan, but he was happy for Lanny because he remembered him battling valiantly against the Oil Kings as a junior player. Also they were playing the Habs and screw those guys too.

It is unfortunate that they lost. Their power play was very good. For all the narrative about how they were the better team though they were out scored 10-2 5×5 during the series so that isn’t so positive

I do wish they had stretched that series longer. The Ducks are going to be rested and healed before they play their next opponent. The Flames did hang in there pretty well, but that job was made a little easier I imagine with Fowler out and with Lindholm and Vatanen ailing for most of the series.

You also had to feel bad for the ride Lanny got in TO. I had a lot of respect for those Leafs that had to endure Ballard and then Imlach. Salming wouldn’t even have been on the team if Ballard hadn’t been in jail when they signed the Swede. But the dismantling of that franchise, the treatment that Lanny got, culminating in the trade to the Rockies, was horrendous. Can you imagine a captain ripping the C off his sweater in disgust? Sittler did.

We can Laff at the Leafs now because of the ridiculous media treatment they get, but you could only pity them and their fans in the 70s.

You also had to feel bad for the ride Lanny got in TO.I had a lot of respect for those Leafs that had to endure Ballard and then Imlach.Salming wouldn’t even have been on the team if Ballard hadn’t been in jail when they signed the Swede.But the dismantling of that franchise, the treatment that Lanny got, culminating in the trade to the Rockies, was horrendous.Can you imagine a captain ripping the C off his sweater in disgust?Sittler did.

We can Laff at the Leafs now because of the ridiculous media treatment they get, but you could only pity them and their fans in the 70s.