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Ore no Kanojo to Osananajimi ga Shuraba Sugiru – 01

We bring you the latest in anime adaptations of light novels that have ridiculously long and descriptive titles, Ore no Kanojo to Osananajimi ga Shuraba Sugiru (“My Girlfriend and Childhood Friend Fight Too Much”), or OreShura for short. Well, I think it should be Oreshura since it’s Oreimo, not OreImo, but Oreshura looks kind of weird. Though OreShura looks weird too. I don’t like how the short form of the title looks in general, I guess.

Oh, by the way, this is not a Crunchy rip. It wouldn’t be good practice that way. And that’s the Allen Iverson kind of practice, not the goto statement kind of practice.

If it is original why are the same mistakes in the same places as everybody else.?? and in less the first three minutes . けち kechi is the word for Stingy ,Cheapskate or Tightwad, Not Meanie . おまたせ omatase is kept you waiting not, I:m ready. Im still just learning Japanese but this was a easy catch. I will be glad when all I need is the raws

Please allow me to educate you on what it means to “translate” an anime from Japanese to English. Translating (rather, subbing in general) is the process of replicating as closely as possible the author’s original intent in a different language. The examples you brought up are what Dark_Sage would call “generitranslations”. For example, how would you translate “shikata ga nai”? If you just thought “it can’t be helped”, you would be wrong. That common phrase can be translated in any number of ways depending on the situation, and in fact should be changed to avoid repetition and a loss of information. Let me redirect you to a good example of how you can change literal translations to make more sense and be more interesting:http://crymore.net/2013/01/09/how-to-edit-crunchyrolls-maoyuu-yuusha/

But by all means, if you think you know better then feel free to use raws. I’m sure you’ll have no problem understanding them from your vast knowledge of words like けち and お待たせ.

Please tell me what makes sense about calling someone a tightwad because they didn’t take you shopping with them to buy things they would already buy. She wants him to take her shopping because that would be fun, not because she wants him to buy her stuff. And it’s clear that Eita’s reluctance to take her along isn’t because of money — it’s because he thinks she’s annoying. Taking her along doesn’t cost him any money. “Tightwad” doesn’t make sense. Neither do any of those words that imply monetary stinginess.

Besides, けち isn’t even a straight map to stingy/cheapskate/tightwad. (And to be literal, おまたせ doesn’t actually mean “kept you waiting”; it’s essentially a noun that means “making someone wait” — it’s short for お待たせしました, “I made you wait”) Someone doesn’t want to hang out with you after school? けち. Teacher won’t let you out of class early like the other ones do? けち.

Translating something by literally translating every piece of lexicon and syntax is really more “changing the meaning” than what human translators do. If Chiwa and Eita spoke English, and Chiwa said “kept you waiting”, Eita would probably say something like “it didn’t really take you that long, why did you just say that?” That’s because おまたせ is used a lot more lightly and commonly in Japanese, so when you hear someone say it, it doesn’t draw your attention, and you won’t take them literally. When you translate it literally, it becomes something that does draw attention and therefore is taken literally. Boom, meaning is changed.

@ Kairi: Believe me, I know how you feel. However, in this case, even the dictionary defines けち as “petty, narrow-minded, quibbling and mean-spirited” in addition to the more traditional ones like ‘cheapskate’. So “meanie” is actually a very valid translation in this case. Also, there is truth to the fact that some of the more generic Japanese terms like はい (yes, sure, me too, etc…), よろしくお願いします (I’ll be in your care, thank you, I’ll leave it up to you, etc…) and 仕様/仕方がない (it can’t be helped, if you insist, fine, if you say so, etc…) translate to different things in English in different solutions. Don’t worry, as you learn more, you’ll get a better hang of it.

@ etocetera: Just out of unadulterated curiosity, with regard to お待たせ, wouldn’t that be more of a localization/cultural thing as opposed to language related? I mean, the Japanese are generally more polite and if being polite is naturally excepted in Japanese conversation, should that convention of politeness be changed just because it’s turned into another language? I mean, she could have easily said もういいよ or something.

If it is original why are the same mistakes in the same places as everybody else.?? and in less the first three minutes . けち kechi is the word for Stingy ,Cheapskate or Tightwad, Not Meanie . おまたせ omatase is kept you waiting not, I:m ready. Im still just learning Japanese but this was a easy catch. I will be glad when all I need is the raws

Please allow me to educate you on what it means to “translate” an anime from Japanese to English. Translating (rather, subbing in general) is the process of replicating as closely as possible the author’s original intent in a different language. The examples you brought up are what Dark_Sage would call “generitranslations”. For example, how would you translate “shikata ga nai”? If you just thought “it can’t be helped”, you would be wrong. That common phrase can be translated in any number of ways depending on the situation, and in fact should be changed to avoid repetition and a loss of information. Let me redirect you to a good example of how you can change literal translations to make more sense and be more interesting:http://crymore.net/2013/01/09/how-to-edit-crunchyrolls-maoyuu-yuusha/

But by all means, if you think you know better then feel free to use raws. I’m sure you’ll have no problem understanding them from your vast knowledge of words like けち and お待たせ.

Make more interesting ???? How about I Translate baka as hello to the point that you believe it means hello,,,Then you walk up to a japanese men and say “Baka” and you get your ass kicked,now THAT would be more interesting .
Making crap up to suit your self is just wrong. Besides you changed the context of the scenes .
She called him a tightwad for not wanting to take her shopping.That makes sense.
and was teasing him about making him wait when he had given her a time limit.and that makes sense.
So NO you did not have it making more sense you made it worse.
It’s pretty bad when you get a better translation from Horrible Subs that from an independent .

Please tell me what makes sense about calling someone a tightwad because they didn’t take you shopping with them to buy things they would already buy. She wants him to take her shopping because that would be fun, not because she wants him to buy her stuff. And it’s clear that Eita’s reluctance to take her along isn’t because of money — it’s because he thinks she’s annoying. Taking her along doesn’t cost him any money. “Tightwad” doesn’t make sense. Neither do any of those words that imply monetary stinginess.

Besides, けち isn’t even a straight map to stingy/cheapskate/tightwad. (And to be literal, おまたせ doesn’t actually mean “kept you waiting”; it’s essentially a noun that means “making someone wait” — it’s short for お待たせしました, “I made you wait”) Someone doesn’t want to hang out with you after school? けち. Teacher won’t let you out of class early like the other ones do? けち.

Translating something by literally translating every piece of lexicon and syntax is really more “changing the meaning” than what human translators do. If Chiwa and Eita spoke English, and Chiwa said “kept you waiting”, Eita would probably say something like “it didn’t really take you that long, why did you just say that?” That’s because おまたせ is used a lot more lightly and commonly in Japanese, so when you hear someone say it, it doesn’t draw your attention, and you won’t take them literally. When you translate it literally, it becomes something that does draw attention and therefore is taken literally. Boom, meaning is changed.

@ Kairi: Believe me, I know how you feel. However, in this case, even the dictionary defines けち as “petty, narrow-minded, quibbling and mean-spirited” in addition to the more traditional ones like ‘cheapskate’. So “meanie” is actually a very valid translation in this case. Also, there is truth to the fact that some of the more generic Japanese terms like はい (yes, sure, me too, etc…), よろしくお願いします (I’ll be in your care, thank you, I’ll leave it up to you, etc…) and 仕様/仕方がない (it can’t be helped, if you insist, fine, if you say so, etc…) translate to different things in English in different solutions. Don’t worry, as you learn more, you’ll get a better hang of it.

@ etocetera: Just out of unadulterated curiosity, with regard to お待たせ, wouldn’t that be more of a localization/cultural thing as opposed to language related? I mean, the Japanese are generally more polite and if being polite is naturally excepted in Japanese conversation, should that convention of politeness be changed just because it’s turned into another language? I mean, she could have easily said もういいよ or something.

Some people (myself included) will almost always go for an original translation over a CR edit, no matter how good it may be. Putting the quality of the show aside (which is in itself a matter of opinion), all the groups released within a couple hours of each other, and we were even able to get this out before Commie this week. We also decided to sub this before CR announced they were simulcasting OreShura, and hell if we’re going to let them influence our decision.

Some people (myself included) will almost always go for an original translation over a CR edit, no matter how good it may be. Putting the quality of the show aside (which is in itself a matter of opinion), all the groups released within a couple hours of each other, and we were even able to get this out before Commie this week. We also decided to sub this before CR announced they were simulcasting OreShura, and hell if we’re going to let them influence our decision.

I was archiving your release only because you also do Aikatsu which I enjoy, but was going to watch Rori’s release as it aired out of loyalty, but after seeing your AI reference, that comment has catapulted you into God-tier status along w/ Doki and will now only watch your release. Thank you for what you do Good Sirs.

I was archiving your release only because you also do Aikatsu which I enjoy, but was going to watch Rori’s release as it aired out of loyalty, but after seeing your AI reference, that comment has catapulted you into God-tier status along w/ Doki and will now only watch your release. Thank you for what you do Good Sirs.