Isn't it nice that these Progs hate everything that even smacks of honor and pride in the American Ideal? They are absolutely compelled to attack and mock the slightest hint of legendary American myth.

The beauty of it all, tho, is that they have long since reduced themselves to subhuman status. Their hatred of non-socialists has resulted in a reaction that they will find to be historic, and massive...

By all means, keep it up. No one would dream of building new gas tight showers and crematoriums, and processing units based on Leftist voter rolls and union memberships lists...

TheBigLie:They may have had a very valid point, but still. They were rebelling against the government of the country they voluntarily moved to.

They were rebelling against a dictator who took over the government of the country they moved to. Santa Anna disolved congress and established a dictatorship. American immigrant Texans were not the ony ones who rebelled. Mamy Mexicans in Texas , as well as several other Mexican states also rebelled, among them: Coahuila y Tejas, San Luis Potosí, Querétaro, Durango, Guanajuato, Michoacán, Yucatán, Jalisco, Nuevo León, Tamaulipas, and Zacatecas.

Texas was the only one that succeeded. Had they failed the people of the US Southwest would now be enjoying the same high standard of living now enjoyed by the people of Mexico.

The rebellion started out as an effort to restore the Constitution of 1824 not gain independence.

hasty ambush:They were rebelling against a dictator who took over the government of the country they moved to. Santa Anna disolved congress and established a dictatorship. American immigrant Texans were not the ony ones who rebelled. Mamy Mexicans in Texas , as well as several other Mexican states also rebelled, among them: Coahuila y Tejas, San Luis Potosí, Querétaro, Durango, Guanajuato, Michoacán, Yucatán, Jalisco, Nuevo León, Tamaulipas, and Zacatecas.

Texas was the only one that succeeded. Had they failed the people of the US Southwest would now be enjoying the same high standard of living now enjoyed by the people of Mexico.

The rebellion started out as an effort to restore the Constitution of 1824 not gain independence.

/The more you know.

That makes more sense. I'll have to find a history of Mexico, post spanish colony through the Mexican American war. Sounds like it'd be an interesting bit of history.

Just once though, I'd like to see an American battle cry of "We're going to attack you to contain communism" or "You're threatening our oil supply!" or "In 30 years they might have the ability to actually hurt a small section of our country" rather than "Freedom"

Growing up in 1960s San Antonio us school kids were treated to several field trips to the Alamo every year where we were indoctrinated to the myth that the evil, arch villain Santa Ana and Mexicans had unfairly slaughtered our freedom loving heroes in an epic battle of monumental proportions. As we all know now it was just a little squabble, the real battle for Texas Independence happened in San Jacinto.

Turns out those freedom fighters had all immigrated to the country of Mexico from Europe and agreed by law to become Catholics in exchange for free land and protection from the savage Comanches marauding the land at the time. Then, when the government of Mexico got tired of the settlers subverting society by worshiping a pagan deity (imagine that) and started enforcing the law, they decided they'd rather be part of the United States. Yea, I know, everyone thinks Texas was an independent country and that's what it wanted. But that's wrong. The whole idea was to get statehood. But the government of the US at the time didn't want their stinking asses.

It warms my heart that The Alamo is such a great internet meme/joke involving Ozzy Osbourne and Pee Wee Herman. Because for so many years those old biatches who guarded the place wouldn't even let a picture be taken inside its walls. It wasn't until around 2004 they allowed the Today Show and Jane Pauley to do a sit down interview inside. I mean, it's pretty damn obvious what they've been doing to maintain the charade all these years.

As a historic battle site the Alamo has enjoyed a level of sacredness few other houses of worship enjoy. And they let you know it with the plaque on the front doorThey act like you're visiting the Vatican or something.

Taylor Mental:Growing up in 1960s San Antonio us school kids were treated to several field trips to the Alamo every year where we were indoctrinated to the myth that the evil, arch villain Santa Ana and Mexicans had unfairly slaughtered our freedom loving heroes in an epic battle of monumental proportions. As we all know now it was just a little squabble, the real battle for Texas Independence happened in San Jacinto.

Turns out those freedom fighters had all immigrated to the country of Mexico from Europe and agreed by law to become Catholics in exchange for free land and protection from the savage Comanches marauding the land at the time. Then, when the government of Mexico got tired of the settlers subverting society by worshiping a pagan deity (imagine that) and started enforcing the law, they decided they'd rather be part of the United States. Yea, I know, everyone thinks Texas was an independent country and that's what it wanted. But that's wrong. The whole idea was to get statehood. But the government of the US at the time didn't want their stinking asses.

It warms my heart that The Alamo is such a great internet meme/joke involving Ozzy Osbourne and Pee Wee Herman. Because for so many years those old biatches who guarded the place wouldn't even let a picture be taken inside its walls. It wasn't until around 2004 they allowed the Today Show and Jane Pauley to do a sit down interview inside. I mean, it's pretty damn obvious what they've been doing to maintain the charade all these years.

As a historic battle site the Alamo has enjoyed a level of sacredness few other houses of worship enjoy. And they let you know it with the plaque on the front door[farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x426]They act like you're visiting the Vatican or something.

I'm not very political but that was very well said...I think everyone,by now,realizes that Crockett,Travis,Bowie and probably most of those guys were not there for any freedom cause...Rather they were thinking about coin...

hasty ambush:TheBigLie: They may have had a very valid point, but still. They were rebelling against the government of the country they voluntarily moved to.

They were rebelling against a dictator who took over the government of the country they moved to. Santa Anna disolved congress and established a dictatorship. American immigrant Texans were not the ony ones who rebelled. Mamy Mexicans in Texas , as well as several other Mexican states also rebelled, among them: Coahuila y Tejas, San Luis Potosí, Querétaro, Durango, Guanajuato, Michoacán, Yucatán, Jalisco, Nuevo León, Tamaulipas, and Zacatecas.

Texas was the only one that succeeded. Had they failed the people of the US Southwest would now be enjoying the same high standard of living now enjoyed by the people of Mexico.

The rebellion started out as an effort to restore the Constitution of 1824 not gain independence.

AcesFull: I'm not very political but that was very well said...I think everyone,by now,realizes that Crockett,Travis,Bowie and probably most of those guys were not there for any freedom cause...Rather they were thinking about coin...

Everything west of St. Louis in the early 1800s was wide open frontier where dozens of Indian tribes as well as bandits ruled everything. You were either seeking coin, desperate to survive, or just an outlaw if you went west in those days. The Mexican and US governments both gave land grants to settlers to encourage civilization on a vast frontier. That's about the only time you could say we truly lived in a free country, because if you could haul all your farming gear, your livestock, and your brood of 12 children laborers out to some remote plot in the middle of nowhere and start growing food you'd make a profit. Even if you had to fight Indians to get it done.

jaytkay:hasty ambush: TheBigLie: They may have had a very valid point, but still. They were rebelling against the government of the country they voluntarily moved to.

They were rebelling against a dictator who took over the government of the country they moved to. Santa Anna disolved congress and established a dictatorship. American immigrant Texans were not the ony ones who rebelled. Mamy Mexicans in Texas , as well as several other Mexican states also rebelled, among them: Coahuila y Tejas, San Luis Potosí, Querétaro, Durango, Guanajuato, Michoacán, Yucatán, Jalisco, Nuevo León, Tamaulipas, and Zacatecas.

Texas was the only one that succeeded. Had they failed the people of the US Southwest would now be enjoying the same high standard of living now enjoyed by the people of Mexico.

The rebellion started out as an effort to restore the Constitution of 1824 not gain independence.

/The more you know.

You forgot the slavery part.

The Texans rebelled because Mexico closed Texas for further immigration, imposed property taxes and outlawed slavery.