"Why go first, when your competitors can look at your specifications and come up with something better?" he explained to British magazine, The Times.

With both Orbis and Durango specs nearly finalized, most enthusiasts expected official announcements to be made during this year’s E3 expo in June. This looks less likely now.

This quest for processing power superiority has lead Sony to release PlayStation 3 a full year after Xbox 360. When Sony’s consoles finally made it to the market in 2006, its main competitor had already enjoyed a market lead of 10 million units sold. Even worse, Nintendo Wii was released around the same time PlayStation 3 was launched but it still managed to overshadow both consoles before the end of 2007, effectively proving that raw processing power is not the decisive factor in this market.

PC MASTER RACE OWN CONSOLE GAMERS? DING DONG! YOU'RE WRONG! CORPORATIONS OWN ALL OF YOU! KEEP SPENDING YOUR HARD EARNED DOLLARS IN THE NAME OF GRAPHICS AND ENTERTAINMENT! THE FAT CATS NEED TO BE FED! DERP!

I've read some of these comments and while I'll admit you guys know a lot more than I do (technical side). I would like to add my 2 cents worth. I have both the PS3 and Xbox360, some games I like for one console over the other and vice-a-avers. It all comes down to personal preference and by the way I like Sly Cooper, Jax and Daxter and God of War and while Halo is a monster franchise it's not god of all games. Buying the same game for each consoles is a waste of money and I happen to think that graphics always look better on the PC, Anyway do enjoy reading the different opinions of those who have more technical knowledge than I do so keep writing just save the space for something constructive and don't waste if on name calling.

I despise people like you who don't know **** about what you're talking about.
"specs of the ps3 being crap and it can't handle such a cool game" <-- This is a bullshit statement.
1. PS3 can handle a cool game, as evidenced by there being a PS3 version of Skyrim that works decently, dipshit.
2. The specs aren't crap. On the contrary, if the game is programmed with the PS3's hardware in mind (hardware which **** near no one but an exclusive developer knows **** about), the Cell/RSX combo outclasses the Xenon/Xenos combo several times over. The reason it took so long to come out was because Bethesda doesn't know what the **** they're supposed to do with the Cell, so they just port it over from the PC-like programming environment that is the Xbox 360 and expect it to work just as well.
3. Also, as an addendum to my first point, there are plenty of PS3 exclusives available that are many times cooler than Skyrim will ever be. I'd take my Killzone, Starhawk, InFamous, or Gran Turismo 5 over Skyrim any day of the week.

ps3 had demon souls, million times over better than skyrim, also it inspired dark souls, still another game way better then skyrim, oh and yet to be is dark souls 2, witch will blow skyrim back to the stone age, *******.

ok no.1 the games you listed are also very ****, no.2 halo can beat them anyday and so can skyrim and prototype and kingdom under fire... so if you are arguing that ps3 is better, please list good games!

And you think Halo, one game, is going to beat all of playstations games? Dude I played all the Halos and they all sucked, even worse after the next and next ones came out. Uncharted kills Halo, and so does the Metal Gear Solid series.

Why do people always say that Halo is so good? It's not it's repetitive as heck. "but there are two whole buttons! That makes it so much better than the wii!" anyone who says that is an idiot! In fact, I know one kid who hates Nintendo just because a call of duty on it wouldn't work. THE WII ISN'T DESIGNED FOR FPS GAMES!!!

"When Sony’s consoles finally made it to the market in 2006, its main competitor had already enjoyed a market lead of 10 million units sold"
The current difference in total units sold between the 360 and PS3 is 1 million...Therefore sony has made up a 9 million unit difference in 1 years less sales.

dont forget xbox had how many repeat customers buying their system over and over and over yeah I've had to replace my ps3, I'm on my third one but only one crashed the other fell down my stairs loved eb for that one, my brother on the other hand loyal xbox owner on his 6th or 7th. So not only are graphics way better on ps3 but the hardware lasts longer oh and to the dude who said Gran Turismo is ****.... Go play your slow as hell forza my grandma walks faster than that game.

Consoles suck anyway, I'll take my mods and freedom in general over this crap anyday. Sad, because I grew up a console kid starting with the NES. Even if PCs do cost more, they are well worth it. Steam sales make up for anyhow.

Not true. Building a pc cost money. and Pc's..no.TECHNOLOGY all over the world is advancing at a fast pace. Meaning more money to catch up especially with games improving itself. I know plenty about computers to know this and this is why I choose consoles. Also it's fun when there's competition. When your straight up Pc gamer your left out of the console wars (whether you see it bad or not) it's something everyone, but PC gamers can get involved in. Well Pc gamers can get involved, but I wouldn't ask about about console new, where it's going, ect.

more expensive if you want any chance to keep up with games and to top it all off pc games aren't being improved as fast because everyone jumped on the ******* console bandwagon and stopped caring about high end gaming. you buy a high end pc today and the only way you will be able to max it out is if you are doing bitcoin or something. no game can stress out a high end pc and its about time the game creators put more of an emphasis on graphics.

I agree and disagree.
Console gamers have definitely overshadowed PC gamers in the last years, thus causing more "AAA" titles to be developed with consoles being priority number one. There is no arguing that fact. The good news is that a lot of developers are finally saying they're going to start working with the PC in mind first because it's easier to port to a console then upscale a console based game for the PC.
To say you can't stress a high end gaming PC however, is just ludicrous. There are 6 year old games out there that will still bring a modern PC to it's knees if you try. Aside from dumping over 2K into a system, a good "high end" single card solution can still be taxed 100%
What has changed a lot about PC gaming in the last years is the reliance on CPU power. The GPU is finally back in the drivers seat when it comes to performance gains. CPU's have hit the point where they're just "too strong". A person, like me, with a 2 year old i5 setup would see virtually NO gain in upgrading the CPU where as prior to my i5 system, I could upgrade once a year and see a pretty dramatic improvement.
Component prices are at a good point right now. You can build a good mid-range gaming PC for about 800 bucks if you look hard enough. A mid-range gaming PC will look better than any next gen console.
I'm looking forward to the next generation gaming consoles because I feel like it will be the last "nail in the coffin" for console games. PS4 is predicted to retail for $500 while the XBOX Durango is likely going to be pretty close to that. The industry thinks that they know what consumers want, and apparently, we all want a console that will do more than play games. We want Facebook, NetFlix, Pandora, etc. Guess what kiddo's. The PC has done this for years.
When the PS2 first launched, there was a survey done in which it had asked users how often they watched DVD's on their PS2. The most common response was, "I didn't even know it could do that" People buy a gaming console to play games, or at least they used to. IMO, MS and Sony should create a GAMING CONSOLE that does JUST THAT. If they want to stay in the "Home Entertainment" market, then create a ROKU competitor.
Personally, I hate the fact that MS and Sony feel like they "need" to offer these services or their consoles are going to fail. That is just not true. Both companies could earn more by creating a "HTPC" platform with a custom OS and just leave the gaming to the gaming console. I can build a good media PC for just a couple hundred bucks. MS could offer up a solution like that with a custom built OS for media.

Neither of them are better. What happened to the good days where you'd go out, buy a game, throw it in your CD-ROM drive, install it and play it for hours on end? Consoles couldn't compare to a PC, and yet the present-day games released for the computer are suffering. Take for example - WWII Fighters released by Jane's Combat Simulations. That was a -real- combat simulator, now you have the crap like Jane's Advanced Strike Fighters, there's no game these days that just can not go without having a console esque design.

Dude your a moron playstation three has the most flawed and hackable network out to date only thing good is the disks don't scratch easily and it has free multiply player but most of the top rated multiplayer or single player game franchises have been released for the 360 and I can say all this because I've owned all consoles that have been released except for hand helds and in my opinion id much rather pay a membership fee for some TRUE QUALITY gaming

I have both systems, and prefer my PS3. It's more customizable to my needs or preferences. It also has less "fluff" to the Main GUI. The only games that are exclusive to Xbox that are well known are Halo and Gears of War. Other then that, Ps3 has many more exclusives like God of War, Uncharted, KillZone, Twisted Metal, Metal Gear Solid, ETC. Not to mention the latest released exclusive "The Last of Us". Both systems are good for their respective reasons, but PS3 is a more powerful, and complete system.

I prefer my PS3 as well; the hardware on my Xbox 360 is buggy, and the thinner PS3s are pretty reliable. Being a bit of a Sony/Microsoft fanboy, I have to explain a few things...
But the main problem with the PS3 is that it doesn't have any desktop interoperability, and there are so many PS3 models with different capabilities; I play Steam games on my PC all the time with my Xbox 360 controller, and the controller is far superior. The network on PS3 also seems rushed, people who play on PS3 are more inclined to play alone, whereas people on the Xbox are more likely to play multiplayer. There are even ways you can play FPS' with a keyboard and mouse on the Xbox 360, which won't work on a PS3.
As a PC user, I can walk up to my Xbox 360, and play games on it in the same way I do with Steam, whereas PS3 the online seems forced, the controller is terrible, and the software for it is incredibly buggy. The PS4 will probably be able to solve most of these problems, excluding the controller issues.
Microsoft wins with polish, Sony wins with their games list, and Nintendo wins with both creativity, and ease of use.

Did you read the article? How can MS copy something that isn't being released until after their console? The whole point of the article is that Sony made the same mistake last time - so Microsoft can't have copied them back then either. What's your point exactly?

You must not pay any attention to the news...Playstation announced they will be releasing their console this year. Microsoft has been quiet about their's, looks like your comment is based off an uninformed position. In other words, you're dumb. Also Microsoft DID copy the console concept from Sony because Sony was gearing their console around serious gamers at the time when the first XBox came out. In other words, you're dumb...again. Also Microsoft as a whole is garbage. They care about money first and then, if they get enough money, they will introduce a new feature to get you to spend more money.
Lets take their OS, there are free OSs out there(Linux) now it may be slightly more complicated but $200 for Windows...
Now for Office, if their prices weren't bad enough before now Microsoft is going to charge either a monthly or annual fee that, if you don't pay, won't allow you to make new documents after your subscription expires. Open Office is free and can be saved in the Microsoft Office format...What???
And finally the XBox, you can get online for free, but you can't play...dumb. Pay a monthly/yearly or whatever fee to be able to do what you can do on the PS3 for free...why? I had an XBox and a 360 and got rid of them once I decided to get a PS3. Sure PS3 has it's issues but at least I don't have to pay a monthly sub to get online and play a game with my friends.
Also...fanbois are funny try using legitimate arguments instead of "This is better because this game is better!" OR "[insert console name here] owns your [insert console name here]." That is not directed at everyone just the dumb ones that don't provide a legitimate argument.

no, **** sony for having the worst servers and online experience along with the only exclusives being a button mashing kiddie game called god of war, killzone series, and resistance. Xbox has better controllers, better online that only cost's as much for a year as some of you idiots spend on pot in a week (quit ******** about paying for service when it's better). Oh, and don't forget the halo series which has the best campaign and multiplayer in one awesome package and the gears series, both developers offer something new every week for their fans...........all ps3 will ever have is the most cod fans who whine when they miss a hit marker and yell "hacker" when it's really the ****** servers and lag.

X box controllers, clunky pieces of ****, Halo, one of the shittiest series of games going, I'd rather play on my ******* Atari than waste my time on your ****** box.
I've used almost every console and handheld ever out, I believe that X box holds up their end of the fight between them and Sony, but the only thing that actually beats a PS3 in gaming quality, is unrivalled by anything, a PC.
So shut your ******* ***** holes and leave it alone.
X box or PS3, who gives a ****? It's about personal preference.
PS: I happen to know for a fact the PS3 is a more powerful system, with a higher graphics rating than near any other system. You see those ****** Youtube videos comparing the graphics?
The X box is always lagging, because they have it on the best quality the X box has, on an HD TV connected with a HDMI cable, the PS3, however is on the worst settings, with only a HDMI cable for a superior quality even on the Youtube videos, compare the pixilation, PS3 wins in graphics.
So stop ******** about that ****.

Buddy, you need to calm down, and so does the guy you replied to.
Also, It looks like the only reason you put the, "X box or PS3, who gives a ****? It's about personal preference", in there was so people wouldn't rage at you, because you sound very biased.

What the hell are YOU on about? Halo Reach and 4 are the worst of the series, so its dying. The new Gears game is ***. And don't forget that CoD is more popular on 360 than anything else, with a higher amount of people on PSN that hate the **** game.
btw, CoD doesn't have dedicated servers so your ending made no sense either.
The service isn't "better" IMO. I don't pay for kids to say they ****** my mom anymore mate. If I pay for their service, they should remove ads from my dashboard. They still don't. They still get that advertising money even though I pay them for their premium ****.
God of War isn't a kiddie game. Just no.
You only mentioned shooters, so yes, the PS3 WILL disappoint you. I'm sorry if some of us play other games.

Playstation:
The PS1, was very fun for driving games. My cousin had a PS1, I had a PS2. Ratchet and clank was a personal favorite, along with The Star Wars battlefront series and need for speed. I had over 60 games. My PS2 was broken by my sister's friend at her birthday party, so I purchased the in between version of the PS3 ( was the large version but without the PS2 compatibility). Anyways, I loved playing Call Of Duty 3, it was a huge leap forwards from the TPS I played on the previous system. I continued to buy the Call of Duty games in this order: 3, Modern Warfare 2, World at War,Modern Warfare, Black ops, Modern Warfare 3, Black ops 2, and I am currently waiting for the Modern Warfare 3 sequel, rumoured to be called "Ghosts will Rise" or simalar title related to the Modern Warfare 2 character "Ghost", Who cannot die. Nonetheless, I later jumped back to the TPS games, now Army of Two, and Army of two the 40th day. I beat them multiple times and I now play online and unlock all the masks. I guess you could call me a fanboy, I have a PS3 at each of my houses and I yearn for the day Starwars Battlefront || makes a comeback. I grew up with the playstaition 2, knowing every detail of how to fix a bug, or get some cheats. It made me happy when I was down, so I loved it. I cried when it broke ( I was seven), it was one of my best friends and its day had come, so I bought its son, and I defend the Playstation's honor when it is insulted.
Call me what you will...
A ******
A ******
A fanboy
But I love the Playstation.
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All I have to say is that i bought my PS2 brand new in 2001, and the PS2 was manufactured in 1999 according to the mfgr date on the back of it. Guess what? I've never had problems with it. Now I occasionally use it to watch DVDs and CVS2...

There are some truly ignorant people here. I have had both for many years as well. The PS1 was my first console ever, and it was wonderful. Then I bought the Xbox after a few years of playing strategy games like Command and Conquer Generals, and of course counter strike. When I obtained my Xbox, halo was the first FPS that I had played that was well thought out. (Mind you, I said "the first "I" had played. And at that point I had played very few, so don't give me crap about it.") Then the 360 followed. I started getting into the Call of Duty franchise, per recommendation of many of my friends. Anyways, I visited a friends house at some point. (ive had the Xbox 360 Elite (the black one) for about a year now) He was playing a PS3 RPG by the name of Demon Souls. After getting a chance to play that game, I was instantly hooked, and quickly bought a PS3 Slim. (I was disappointed that it did not have PS2 platform capabilities that came with the first gen PS3, which was a downgrade. I was disappointed.) I have many games for both consoles. Now, im also a final fantasy fan. So I used the PS3 mainly for the final fantasy franchise, which led me only using the PS3 for RPG's. (not including The elder scrolls and Fallout games.) So I cant really say anything about PSN since i've rarely used it. But the few times that I have played on there, there are very few hackers that actively exploit FPS games during ONLINE matches, which is true on both Xbox and PS platforms. I am slightly biased since i've mainly used XBOX live For Shooters since the beginning of my console years. I know for a fact that neither gaming communities suck. Also, to the person who said that Halo and COD don't take skill, you ARE mistaken. Just the fact that there are even tournaments held for those two games alone proves that there is obviously skill involved. Let alone the fact that there are individual WINNERS. (*gasp*) All first person shooters take a fair amount of planning, strategy, and reaction time to master, even more so when they're online. There was, is, and always will be, CAMPERS on EVERY platform in EVERY online game. And to the PC lover, there (surprisingly enough) was ONE game that had 120-140 player matches. It is called MAG. Its a PS3 game. I didn't discover MAG until several years after it was released, so I decided not to buy it, assuming it was already a dead game. Im not sure how successful it was though. ANYWAYS, both platforms are wonderful, though I use them for two totally different types of games. Sales DOES NOT determine which consoles are better, to an extent. They are both great. Everyone is just biased. All the "fanboys" are just kids who have grown up on a certain console or other, and is simply biased because he doesn't know anything else. And when he sees a chance to announce his "console allegiance", he will, and he will also talk **** about anyone that opposes him as much as possible. I say that, but honestly I would prefer if people wouldn't argue about this unless they've ACTUALLY owned both consoles and truly gotten to KNOW each console before talking trash about them. Always know both sides of an argument thoroughly before arguing one point, otherwise youll be bound to lose the fight. And I also think illiterate people who cant ******* type or spell worth **** should just stay away from computers. It drives me insane when they enter an argument, because every single person, no matter which side, will tell him to **** off. All they do is make themselves look like bumbling fools that aren't capable of being worth anything more than the **** that comes out their ***. Anyways, my rant is over. Oh, by the way, for you "teen fanboy" haters, I myself am a teen, and I don't think ive said anything that labels me as such, let alone being "stupid", "Ignorant", or a "Dumbass". I look forward to any replies to my post, as I am curious about what people have to say. PS3 is technically better because of storage space, color, and resolution that the 360 can't replicate due to processor speed. Yes, it was a mistake that Sony released later than the 360, it drove many of their would be customers directly into Microsoft's arms. Sony is not going out of business any time soon, but not at all for the sales of the console as both Microsoft and Sony takes a hit of every console they sell. Sony tried to recuperate some of this money (as they took a very large hit, I don't remember an exact number but it is easily in the hundreds) by downgrading the PS3 to no longer be backwards compatible so PS2's still sold, and before you say it, yes we sold quite a bit of them because ps3's price point was way too high for most people as they just bought a 360. The only reason people are buying PS3's so much is that they are the highest rated blu-ray player currently on the market, mostly because of the amount of ram they contain. Which means the royalty Sony gets from most of their console sales are not close to making up the money they lost on the console itself. And Ps3's are junk, just like 360's. Just as there were 4 versions of PS2's depending what facility manufactured your unit, each with their own problems same thing happened with the PS3. Although the average user would never know the difference between them as they way you tell was what pieces (like screws) were missing from inside. On the PS3 there is a thing called the "yellow eye" it is the same problem as the red ring but under a different name, the reason it happens is even the same, just like Microsoft, Sony didn't want to install a liquid cooling system for size, weight, and cost reasons but they really should be liquid cooled instead of air. Also did you know the reason you have probably never heard of the yellow eye is that Sony made sure the media knew about the problem and made sure it stayed in the public eye? Now for the lazy people.... Tl;Dr PS3 sucks, so does the 360. I own both. sources - 10 years in technology retailers, 3 of those years as technology repair, Sony's training website for employees.

Well what you say is true about the allegiance part and the fanboys, but i had spent 2-3 years on xbox live and a year on the ps3, as for the online community the xbox is alot better since you can join your friends more easily and connect to partys to talk over mic with out having to be in the same game and on the same side. However the ps3 does have better quality and has free online but you can also get playstation plus which is £40 a year(which let's you download 3 set games they give you ever month that range from new to classics so you could get 36 games for 40 pound for a year and also has bonus features(you need a decent amount of space for this)) but normally the space is good, but even buying a new game from a store it can take up to much space with the initial install if you have a small hard drive, where as on the xbox it's optional and it's also easier to change hard drive (if you don't have the slim(but you shouldn't need to with the hard drive space it gives you)). So i would say for social gaming xbox is better, currently i'm on the PC depending on how much you are willing to spend a pc would be an over all best for social and good graphics, you can talk through ingame messages or a headset like the consoles and instead of using partys you can use skype ^^ you can also connect multiple screens so one side you are gaming the other screen can have a movie or have skype open or even teamspeak. and with a descent ram size you could easily use the internet. But pretty much everything is down to cost and size. Also the games like battlefield of ps3 and xbox (not sure if they are different) there multiplayers have around 16 on each side so it's like 32 players in one game ^^ on the pc you can easily have 32 verses 32 on a close quarters match !! it's very hard to camp.
Ps. I love just going online with other people, if i am on my own all pc, ps3 and xbox is the same a part from the controllers, but you can get the controllers to work on pc whether it's a ps3 or xbox own controller if you dig for the right software. But sometimes depending on the game it might not work. Basically best way to move up in gaming from being a teenage (i'm only 18) is getting a decent pc and learning to use the softwares. The only annoying part is that it's not all handed to you like on the ps3 or xbox but it is worth it and you can slowly upgrade a pc, you don't need to spend alot of money at once and it would most likely be cheaper.
(by the way ignore the slight grammar mistakes, English was not my best subject haha)
If i'm wrong about something let me know or if I said anything out of order, or if i don't make sense (some parts I probably don't)