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i think the best counter-example is the goatmon debacle from a year or two back

goatmon was basically an inoffensive poster, slightly annoying, but just kinda blended in. then he made some unpopular remarks or something and somebody went and dug up the fact that he was a bit of a furry (probably teefs). two years on, people are still making fun of him for that

this is when non-privacy and sharing things on the internet isn't a good thing. it's also a prime reason why this is not a non-judgmental environment

That is an example of when one party had their privacy removed and while others had it intact though. In that kind of situation the lack of privacy is damaging. Should everyones preferences be known to all there would be much less judging and humiliation going on.

Backwards is right in this, and I cannot comprehend how you guys can continue to attack something that so easy to see. Privacy is merely a way in which we control others perceptions, that is it, the end.

Whether this is good or bad would be the area of debate, not whether or not it is true.

i think the best counter-example is the goatmon debacle from a year or two back

goatmon was basically an inoffensive poster, slightly annoying, but just kinda blended in. then he made some unpopular remarks or something and somebody went and dug up the fact that he was a bit of a furry (probably teefs). two years on, people are still making fun of him for that

this is when non-privacy and sharing things on the internet isn't a good thing. it's also a prime reason why this is not a non-judgmental environment

That is an example of when one party had their privacy removed and while others had it intact though. In that kind of situation the lack of privacy is damaging. Should everyones preferences be known to all there would be much less judging and humiliation going on.

Backwards is right in this, and I cannot comprehend how you guys can continue to attack something that so easy to see. Privacy is merely a way in which we control others perceptions, that is it, the end.

Whether this is good or bad would be the area of debate, not whether or not it is true.

Why do people keep saying this? What evidence is there of this?

Bigots aren't gonna be change their minds just because everyone knows everything about everyone

Hell, we all pretty much know each others' races and there is still plenty of racism

i think the best counter-example is the goatmon debacle from a year or two back

goatmon was basically an inoffensive poster, slightly annoying, but just kinda blended in. then he made some unpopular remarks or something and somebody went and dug up the fact that he was a bit of a furry (probably teefs). two years on, people are still making fun of him for that

this is when non-privacy and sharing things on the internet isn't a good thing. it's also a prime reason why this is not a non-judgmental environment

That is an example of when one party had their privacy removed and while others had it intact though. In that kind of situation the lack of privacy is damaging. Should everyones preferences be known to all there would be much less judging and humiliation going on.

Backwards is right in this, and I cannot comprehend how you guys can continue to attack something that so easy to see. Privacy is merely a way in which we control others perceptions, that is it, the end.

Whether this is good or bad would be the area of debate, not whether or not it is true.

Why do people keep saying this? What evidence is there of this?

Bigots aren't gonna be change their minds just because everyone knows everything about everyone

Hell, we all pretty much know each others' races and there is still plenty of racism

Well, if bigotry was the majority of society then you would be right, bigotry would persist.

However if it were not, and others preferences, deeds and actions were an open book, bigotry would die as it would not be sustaining. Think about if you knew everyone who was racist, how would you treat them? How would the majority treat them? It wouldn't work out well for them. Bigotry exists because communities and cultures that support it persist, if those cultures and communities were shut off, they would die out.

i think the best counter-example is the goatmon debacle from a year or two back

goatmon was basically an inoffensive poster, slightly annoying, but just kinda blended in. then he made some unpopular remarks or something and somebody went and dug up the fact that he was a bit of a furry (probably teefs). two years on, people are still making fun of him for that

this is when non-privacy and sharing things on the internet isn't a good thing. it's also a prime reason why this is not a non-judgmental environment

That is an example of when one party had their privacy removed and while others had it intact though. In that kind of situation the lack of privacy is damaging. Should everyones preferences be known to all there would be much less judging and humiliation going on.

Backwards is right in this, and I cannot comprehend how you guys can continue to attack something that so easy to see. Privacy is merely a way in which we control others perceptions, that is it, the end.

Whether this is good or bad would be the area of debate, not whether or not it is true.

Why do people keep saying this? What evidence is there of this?

Bigots aren't gonna be change their minds just because everyone knows everything about everyone

Hell, we all pretty much know each others' races and there is still plenty of racism

Well, if bigotry was the majority of society then you would be right, bigotry would persist.

However if it were not, and others preferences, deeds and actions were an open book, bigotry would die as it would not be sustaining. Think about if you knew everyone who was racist, how would you treat them? How would the majority treat them? It wouldn't work out well for them. Bigotry exists because communities and cultures that support it persist, if those cultures and communities were shut off, they would die out.

This doesn't make any sense
People ALREADY know who is racist
You can tell because they ACT LIKE RACISTS

How is "I'm not gonna be racist because other people know I'm a furry and will judge me on that" a proper solution?

Why is it not.. "I'm not gonna be bigoted because being a bigot is wrong"

Bname was arguing that people staying closeted out of fear is wrong
Why is "everyone not being a jerk based on fear of others being a jerk to them" any less terrible?

yeah it does rather seem to be a case of treating the symptoms and not the disease

Personally I think bigotry and racism and all that comes in as a defense mechanism, without any privacy protection by classification would not come into play at all. Essentially you would know everyone, and be able to judge them based solely on them and not individual recognizable traits.

i think the best counter-example is the goatmon debacle from a year or two back

goatmon was basically an inoffensive poster, slightly annoying, but just kinda blended in. then he made some unpopular remarks or something and somebody went and dug up the fact that he was a bit of a furry (probably teefs). two years on, people are still making fun of him for that

this is when non-privacy and sharing things on the internet isn't a good thing. it's also a prime reason why this is not a non-judgmental environment

That is an example of when one party had their privacy removed and while others had it intact though. In that kind of situation the lack of privacy is damaging. Should everyones preferences be known to all there would be much less judging and humiliation going on.

Backwards is right in this, and I cannot comprehend how you guys can continue to attack something that so easy to see. Privacy is merely a way in which we control others perceptions, that is it, the end.

Whether this is good or bad would be the area of debate, not whether or not it is true.

Why do people keep saying this? What evidence is there of this?

Bigots aren't gonna be change their minds just because everyone knows everything about everyone

Hell, we all pretty much know each others' races and there is still plenty of racism

Well, if bigotry was the majority of society then you would be right, bigotry would persist.

However if it were not, and others preferences, deeds and actions were an open book, bigotry would die as it would not be sustaining. Think about if you knew everyone who was racist, how would you treat them? How would the majority treat them? It wouldn't work out well for them. Bigotry exists because communities and cultures that support it persist, if those cultures and communities were shut off, they would die out.

What?

If everyone knew who was racist, everyone who wasn't racist would always be haranguing them and hassling them, and they'd just get even more embittered. They'd seek out all the other racists, because we'd all know who they were, and they'd form communities of racists, like they do today, except they'd be even more insulated than they are now. They'd never change, because they'd never be exposed to what they hate.

backwards is talking in clinical terms about things people don't think of in basest terms

i disagree with most of his ideas of privacy and individual freedoms but i do leave the door open for him to articulate what he thinks because at least i can think critically about my own ideas and ideals

backwards is talking in clinical terms about things people don't think of in basest terms

i disagree with most of his ideas of privacy and individual freedoms but i do leave the door open for him to articulate what he thinks because at least i can think critically about my own ideas and ideals