Maybe they created our physical, emotional and mental bodies we find ourselves in, and maybe even our souls, to enable the former 3 bodies, but the spirit ... that enables the soul, I don't believe they created that, and I believe that "they" have the same spirit from the same source. As to why? Nothing I can prove to myself yet but I'm guessing it was because we were in a state? to be convinced of it being a good thing[coming here], when in fact, it was a trap of their making.OR....We are in a great cosmic ball bag and to escape into life, we must recognize our Divine state and "prove" it by way of life in all the bodies we have found ourselves in. And this in a harmonious way, as we see in Nature without our interference.OR....WE CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH

Who knows? They who do have probably left, or are walking alone in this place, or are helping it go on??

/massive shrug, but there is my current answer.

Other than that we may be in "hell" and seek a piece of it, to be successful here in it? Which may/would be extremely erroneous.

Whatever the case may be, I cannot accept that the Great Divine Source would keep us here for the "figurative eternity", it may just seem like that to us in our current levels of comprehension/willing acceptance??.

No one can answer the questions you ask. Its by design. Our creators gave us just enough intelligence to get by without ever knowing the fundamentals of their master plan. Simple self producing bio units with very limited smarts.

Genius !!!

I don’t aspire to want to know anymore once I realised this. It was then that my appreciation for living things was elevated, especially towards humans. Someone, somebody or something made us. They designed us different from all other forms of life. We are the only living creature on this earth that knows he will die and subsequently lives his life in accordance to this knowledge. We are preoccupied with asking questions that can and never will be answered and in doing so miss the whole experience of just living. We destroy in the name progress and treat out birth place as a disposable object. No other living creature in the world does this. We should let go of our egos and see life for what it really is, limited and precious. What happen when we die is irrelevant. What does it matter if there is an afterlife or not? Would it be any better than this physical life? We don’t even get along in the present. Sad.

Any attempt to concretely define who made us, what is our duty, what is our destiny is nothing more than speculation. By accepting this and just living you will become more in tuned to the universe and see the beauty of your fellow brothers and sisters. Who knows, the world just might become a better place!!

Quoting: Bobman 9278389

Sounds like a first class gyp to me.If life is a gift then why give it and then take it away?I was here and then I wasn't big deal.............and whats the point?

When "we" leave the physical body dies.Sounds like a graven image to me, tsk tsk

Create them in our image.Again ....

Not [fully] bagging the supposed superior beings [fallen into limited physical ..... calling the envelopers as superior? Dunno bout that..] but who what when why created theirs, and if we have life before entering into physical, or souls, and this being a lesser state, the intention cannot be benign, unless we needed learning, to be in harmony with what is, or we severely lack in understanding and who what when why is the cause of that lack?

Because we cannot [the masses] recollect what we are, or were, before this, what do we have as comparison? Can spirits eat? So why do we if we are spirit? People call it starvation or mental illness and are locked up, drugged and so on and that will not help us understand, whilst here.

No one can answer the questions you ask. Its by design. Our creators gave us just enough intelligence to get by without ever knowing the fundamentals of their master plan. Simple self producing bio units with very limited smarts.

Genius !!!

I don’t aspire to want to know anymore once I realised this. It was then that my appreciation for living things was elevated, especially towards humans. Someone, somebody or something made us. They designed us different from all other forms of life. We are the only living creature on this earth that knows he will die and subsequently lives his life in accordance to this knowledge. We are preoccupied with asking questions that can and never will be answered and in doing so miss the whole experience of just living. We destroy in the name progress and treat out birth place as a disposable object. No other living creature in the world does this. We should let go of our egos and see life for what it really is, limited and precious. What happen when we die is irrelevant. What does it matter if there is an afterlife or not? Would it be any better than this physical life? We don’t even get along in the present. Sad.

Any attempt to concretely define who made us, what is our duty, what is our destiny is nothing more than speculation. By accepting this and just living you will become more in tuned to the universe and see the beauty of your fellow brothers and sisters. Who knows, the world just might become a better place!!

Quoting: Bobman 9278389

Sounds like a first class gyp to me.If life is a gift then why give it and then take it away?I was here and then I wasn't big deal.............and whats the point?

Quoting: reluctant participant

Carlos Castaneda mentioned something like this:

The "flyers" eat our awareness sheath, leaving a bare fringe of understanding that we may exist with base awareness. Strict moral codes of living are required to make the sheath unappetizing to the "flyers/sky fish" so we may have full awareness. It is their food and duty I recall?!

Hmmmmm.....lets see...what if the soul can be programmed just like the dna in the body is....Which might mean that the spirit is the "real" us...so the question might be "who programmed our soul?".....

Maybe they created our physical, emotional and mental bodies we find ourselves in, and maybe even our souls, to enable the former 3 bodies, but the spirit ... that enables the soul, I don't believe they created that, and I believe that "they" have the same spirit from the same source. As to why? Nothing I can prove to myself yet but I'm guessing it was because we were in a state? to be convinced of it being a good thing[coming here], when in fact, it was a trap of their making.OR....We are in a great cosmic ball bag and to escape into life, we must recognize our Divine state and "prove" it by way of life in all the bodies we have found ourselves in. And this in a harmonious way, as we see in Nature without our interference.OR....WE CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH

Who knows? They who do have probably left, or are walking alone in this place, or are helping it go on??

/massive shrug, but there is my current answer.

Other than that we may be in "hell" and seek a piece of it, to be successful here in it? Which may/would be extremely erroneous.

Whatever the case may be, I cannot accept that the Great Divine Source would keep us here for the "figurative eternity", it may just seem like that to us in our current levels of comprehension/willing acceptance??.

Quoting: dunno really 29062127

You think far outside of the box which was created, I respect that! What you believe has truth to it but scattered like pieces of a puzzle, with some pieces that don't fit.

No one can answer the questions you ask. Its by design. Our creators gave us just enough intelligence to get by without ever knowing the fundamentals of their master plan. Simple self producing bio units with very limited smarts.

Genius !!!

I don’t aspire to want to know anymore once I realised this. It was then that my appreciation for living things was elevated, especially towards humans. Someone, somebody or something made us. They designed us different from all other forms of life. We are the only living creature on this earth that knows he will die and subsequently lives his life in accordance to this knowledge. We are preoccupied with asking questions that can and never will be answered and in doing so miss the whole experience of just living. We destroy in the name progress and treat out birth place as a disposable object. No other living creature in the world does this. We should let go of our egos and see life for what it really is, limited and precious. What happen when we die is irrelevant. What does it matter if there is an afterlife or not? Would it be any better than this physical life? We don’t even get along in the present. Sad.

Any attempt to concretely define who made us, what is our duty, what is our destiny is nothing more than speculation. By accepting this and just living you will become more in tuned to the universe and see the beauty of your fellow brothers and sisters. Who knows, the world just might become a better place!!

Quoting: Bobman 9278389

Sounds like a first class gyp to me.If life is a gift then why give it and then take it away?I was here and then I wasn't big deal.............and whats the point?

Quoting: reluctant participant

Carlos Castaneda mentioned something like this:

The "flyers" eat our awareness sheath, leaving a bare fringe of understanding that we may exist with base awareness. Strict moral codes of living are required to make the sheath unappetizing to the "flyers/sky fish" so we may have full awareness. It is their food and duty I recall?!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29062127

The consumption of the correct food and water, will enhance your awareness in turn will strengthen your true Power within your self but, you must possess a certain amount of knowledge and temperance.

Hmmmmm.....lets see...what if the soul can be programmed just like the dna in the body is....Which might mean that the spirit is the "real" us...so the question might be "who programmed our soul?".....

Quoting: Blahblahblah 12384893

Humans have been being programmed from birth.What do you think the next step should be after acknowledging this fact?