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Comment by amoebalord

makes me want to yell PEW PEW

Edit: this may just be a beta thing, but it looks like this is gonna be the required engy tool (e.g. Arclight Spanner) of cata. Now we need to make a better army knife that has on of these suckers on it. So you can defibrillate someone, or shoot them in the face with some bolts.

Comment by Silveringast

mmm, 56 stam is a little liteweight, mebe this will be buffed a little... interesting on use effect though, the interupt may be very handy...

Comment by DANEgerous

And you thought only crossbows could fire bolts!

Comment by Opakh

Curious that its only an item level 85. Wonder if that will change come release?

Comment by Riverstyx

I know the similarities are more than likely coincidental, but did anyone else think of the Rivet Gun from Bioshock when they first saw this?

Comment by greenland

At some point, this ceased being a trinket; and instantly became awesome.A neat burst attack; especially if you happen to be a healer and you don't have a surplus of such things. All it costs is a space in your massive titanium toolbox. Just 'skin' some bolts off some robots someplace.

Comment by korbendalis

Looking forward to some serious lvl 70-79 twink PVP action with this baby

Comment by Sildran

Comment by Kalx

It is like a Saronite Bomb, you have to target where it's going to hit

It has a cast time of 0.5s

It triggers the global cooldown

It does a pretty good damage, but may not be something you put in your rotation for dps

Comment by warcanon

So melee gets an other "finishing move" for those pesky runners and the other ranged skills is on cd... 1 bolt for a killing blow? Deal.Works good for spellcasting classes who might be silenced and need to do something while "waiting".

Comment by Yukazi

Oh no.. there are 60's that managed to cap out their Engineering when it was available.This is going to be a very painful expansion in 51-60 AV. :P

Comment by Alfador

Going to be a lot easier to work in to (say) feral rotations than Saronite Bombs were, since I won't have to click a separate target circle!

Comment by Scar231

Best used in the service of the God Emperor.

Comment by Ssateneth

The 60s that did this were exploiting. There was once a 60 warrior with 12k hp and 450 engineering, and he got his engi nerfed to 300 because of all the QQ because it was impossible to get to 450 without the bugged trainers in outland. He quit wow shortly after that.

Always be sure to chant an appropriate litany before use to appease your bolt gun's machine spirit.

Your bolt gun is a sacred and irreplaceable weapon of war. Improper use and handling of your bolt gun will result in severe disciplinary action. Should you somehow become separated from your bolt gun while still alive, a replacement will not be issued to you; severe disciplinary action will be taken. Use of improperly blessed or unauthorized bolts in your weapon can result in death or irreparable damage to your bolt gun; severe disciplinary action will be taken.

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Comment by Utherslovechild

At level 85 8500 damage will be negligible. The casting interrupt will be useful for melee classes in pvp against casters although a good caster is probably way out of range (the range of this thing is really pitiful). Probably not usable in rated BGs or Arena either. On top of that it requires ammo (obsdium bolts) to fire. That's right, Blizzard took ammo out of the game for hunters and gave it to engineers.

Comment by CptQwark

Note that it really does fire several bolts at the enemy. I used it once against a random mob and it hit it twice (both around 10k damage = 20k total!).

Comment by CptQwark

I tried it again and it only hit the mob once. The first time could have been a bug or maybe the number of hits is random.

Comment by CptQwark

Using this on mobs increases engineering skill :)

Comment by goldmeister

A couple more notes: Though this says it is a "gun", it is usable by paladins and probably other classes than normally can't use a gun. Though it did not say so until the item was made, as of live cata it does still require a handful of bolts to fire each time, which imo makes it pretty much not worth the while except as a skillup point.

Comment by Umichi

This weapon levels your engineering occasionally when used.

I don't have any pictures to show you cause I'm a retard and dunno how to SS, i was using it against an ogre in nagrand while mining for adamantite. The reason i said occasionally is because i had previously used it on a demon in Hellfire Peninsula while mining fel iron and got no skill ups.

Even though the text says it uses several bolts it only uses one.

also tested this out AoE style it does hit multiple mobs.

Comment by Sonofspree

It does not say it uses several bolts. It says "Handful of..."

That is the name of the reagent. If you have 20 bolts, you have 20 Handful of Obsidium Bolts. Which means you can fire this 20 times.

This also means for every four obsidum ore ( or every two bars ) you get between 2 to 4 shots with this depending how many handful of bolts you make randomly.

Comment by NfldPunx

Each Squad can upgrade up to 3 heavy high-powered bolt guns.Its bad enough you got the idea for warcraft from warhammer, this is taking it pretty far blizz. My warlock will love using it in the same breath though :)

Comment by lsevenl

Was this just nerfed? I looked at it and it shows 8500 now instead of 10200 max

Comment by Kalx

It costs four hundred thousand gold to fire this weapon... For Twelve Seconds.

Comment by Syncness

Good idea to use this on Arcanotron in Blackwing Descent.

Comment by yaroslavdv

can be used in arenas

Comment by ihatebooty

i was in badlands farming deeprocksalt for winterveil and used this on a mob and it gave me a skill up:] just keep this in mind peepz and also it intrupts! witch is awsome for my dk giving me a total of 3 intrupts :]

Comment by drummerthing

I am High-Powered Bolt Guns guy, and this is my bolt gun. She weighs 150 kilograms and fires custom 200 gold custom obsidium bolt cartridges at 10,000 bolts per minute. It cost 400,000 gold to to fire this weapon for 12 seconds. Hahaha! Oh my God! Who touched Sasha? What... WHO TOUCHED MY BOLT GUN? Some people think they can outsmart me... maybe, maybe... I have yet to meet one who can outsmart the Obsidium Bolt!

Comment by Dreamsmith

Not anymore. From the Dec 16 (2010) hotfixes:

The Engineering item High-Powered Bolt Gun can no longer be used in Arena and Rated Battleground matches.

Comment by ottosen

Currently this item works in arena. It's simply in your bag, doesn't take up a trinket slot or anything like that.

This will get nerfed soon, so hurry up and try it out!

Comment by dingbot1

Disenchants into a small prismatic shard...On the global cooldown...Glove enchants incur a 15 second cooldown...

Comment by Helil

Can no longer be used in Arena and Rated Battleground matches.

Comment by KahnOWhoopass

As of hotfix 12/16/2010

The Engineering item High-Powered Bolt Gun can no longer be used in Arena and Rated Battleground matches.

Comment by KahnOWhoopass

As of hotfix 12/16/2010

The Engineering item High-Powered Bolt Gun can no longer be used in Arena and Rated Battleground matches.

Soon enough for you?

Comment by axonaxoff

No longer usable in Arena or Rated Battlegrounds.... :(

Comment by corners

"The Engineering item High-Powered Bolt Gun can no longer be used in Arena and Rated Battleground matches."

Comment by Kibagami

Made one for my lv66 450 engineer Fire mage (you need lv65 to reach 450 engineer)Look like it receive the 25% Fire damage bonus from the Fire talent tree, it's now doing 8750 - 13k damage and I even got a 26k crit with it already :)

in lv60-69 bg it pretty much one shot everything except a few 68-69 with good gear, the only bad thing I found about it is that it's sometimes hard to hit a moving target with it, but that can be easily counter with a Sheep,Dragonbreath or Frostnova :)

I can already guess that another nerf is probably coming soon.

Comment by Krellath

Recipe was orange to me and provided 5 skill-ups per craft right up to (and including) 475.

Comment by UlarnekofArygos

Clever, very clever, i can appreciate this comment

Comment by Kake3k

Can crit.

As a warrior, the crit procs Deep Wounds, and thus also Trauma (from the Blood Frenzy talent).

Comment by Sergius

why it disenchants into Small Prismatic Shard ? It's 85lvl item!

Comment by TastyMorsel

For fire mages this thing is awesome.

This is the new "bomb" of cataclysm. Sadly it is a 2m cd. Here is why its still awesome tho:

1. 2minute cd does not share CD with cobalt frag bomb! So, if you need to live thru a 5 sec sp silence, you can.2. On my mage it can crit for 20k+3. If you are fire spec this counts as fire dmg! Meaning a crit will proc ignite!4. Interrupts casting in a what seems like 5 yard area5. 1second cast time can be cast while running.6. Does proc the Global Cooldown.

Not sure what the crit chance is. Perhaps someone with lots of gold could do some testing as currently obsidium bolts are about 5g each on my server.

Comment by marin

One thing that really grabbed my attention here was the pve possibility with the interupt and my tankadin, I know the casting time makes it not ideal but the hammer of justice cd is a bummer. In a pinch it could be a life saver and will make having a stack of bolts in the bag worth the space.

Comment by docallens

In the level 70 BGs, a Prot Pally combined with this High-Powered Bolt Gun is the most OP thing in the game. Im tired of getting 3-shotted by them. Blizz should really put the minimum level at 80.

Comment by samdc

This does around 8500 damage, the wowhead thing says its up to 10k thats most likely a crit.

It also says 465 is green and 480 grey, but yet i'm 472 and its STILL orange... I came here hopping to get help to see untill when its orange but..

Comment by Ganos

Can you fire the gun while moving? If it's possible, it might be worth something in some PvE-situations as a melee, otherwise probably not.

Comment by botchitt

This thing CAN crit. It hits for more-or-less the damage range stated, as Fire damage (see associated Explosive Bolts spell). It has a 4-yard AoE on the damage plus an Interrupt effect. Buffs and debuffs allow the damage to increase above the range shown on the tooltip (e.g. Curse of the Elements).

Note from the timing that the interrupt occurs immediately after a successful cast (~0.5 seconds) but the damage occurs later due to travel time. This makes it a pretty useless interrupt for all but very long cast-time spells.

It is the two minute cooldown and the fact that it has to be AoE targetted (rather than just firing at your currently targetted mob) which makes this thing "Nearly as complicated to operate as it is to make." as mentioned in the tooltip.

This is definitely not one for a regular dps or tps rotation, but if you can make a key interrupt, adding the effective healing saved and possible fatality avoided (in this case ~120K nature damage) you begin to see its value in a raid situation.

My experience is that it cannot be cast while moving, as my combatlog shows several failed casts. You have to stop moving for a moment to allow it to fire.

Comment by Meiluy

So, quick observation here: The damage from this can be modified by spec... I was in my demonology spec and the tooltip said only 9,970 damage... switching to destruction changed it to 12,131 damage. I find it odd that a spec change would affect an engineering item...

Comment by H3LL

another fact:

you can gain skillpoints for using the gun.

I wanted to use it in lvl 75-79 bg's, but my skill was 451 and i couldnt make it yet, so i got another engi to make it for me, and to my supprise i gained skillpoints for using it! I leveled engi 451 > 455 using it, not sure if it is only till 455 or higher, if i gain more skillpoints using it i'll let you know ;-)

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Comment by Ghosty1947

inb4 BOOM HEADSHOT!

Comment by neveroom

i have noticed that after each use the dmg on the tool tip changes about 400ish, goes from 8900 to 9300, did not change specs or have any different buffs. i do believe there is a secret nerf in 65 bgs with it aswell since it most of the time hits for 7k crits for 10-12. poeple in that bracket most of the time have no resil aside from 2 pc boa. it is fully resisted 30% of the time. i may need larger test banks to get an accurate number.

its still a ton of fun to 1 shot people when theres a full moon out.

or take 2 friends with it and go to the first mini boss in AV and watch all the tanks/melee die if fired at the same time

Comment by Encon

Also it's pretty handy during the Cho'gall for Interrupting Conversion.

Comment by mrgummage

Shares a 10 second cooldown with Synapse Springs, and probably other Engineering tinkers.

Comment by Poyzun

As a level 65 rogue i can say nothing more than this works wonders.

Edit - Big nerf in 4.2, its all over man.. all over.

Comment by royen99

Wonderfull at my gnome mage, level 65 :-) I level mostly using dungeons and Alterac Vally PvP, and is very amusing to one-shot a pack of 1 fully geared lvl 69 Death Knight and Rogue.

Quite often manage to ice block them using my Water Elements Freeze, and then fire my Bolt gun. Highest crit I got was 15.6k.. and in the 65-69 PVP range, no one survives that.

For running players also have a on my gloves that can crit to 7k. Players that are full health usually barely survice but will make an easy kill afterwards.

Comment by kerrymayall

This is my Bolt Gun. There are many like it, but this one's mines. My Bolt Gun is my best friend.Without me, my Bolt Gun is useless, without my Bolt Gun, I am useless. I must shoot straighter then my enemy who is trying to kill me, I must shoot him before he shoots me. My Bolt Gun and myself are the defenders of my faction, we are the masters of our enemy.

Comment by Drisgol

Since nobody mentioned it yet, it does not share a cooldown with explosives. So for goblin engineers, Big Daddy and High-Powered Bolt Gun would equate to a good burst.

As long as you got the gold for it.

Also, if you want to see how it looks like, goblin shipbuilders are using it in Twilight Highlands.

Comment by Blutkrieg

The High-Powered Bolt Gun is absolutely incredible in the current Cataclysm raiding environment where sudden explosive burst damage is often mandatory. As an Assassination Rogue, my AoE damage builds up over time and ultimately bypasses the AoE damage cap (Empty Poison Vial even if applied by Fan of Knives), however, many boss fights with adds are situations where time is of the essence. In my experience, here are some places where the Bolt Gun truly shines;

-Blackwing Descent-MagmawMagmaw, in our guild at least, is to the point where we don't even actually bother DPSing his adds down, due to the fact they die from our Warrior tank kiting them with Rend up the full time via . It is however, worthy of note that the Bolt Gun excels at putting serious hurt on the worms and shouldn't be ruled out if you and your raid are having issues with the Lava Parasites being alive. Currently, I'm only using the Bolt Gun when Magmaw is afflicted by Point of Vulnerability after being impaled on the spike. Out of all the boss fights, this is where some of the largest crits I've ever accomplished with the Bolt Gun stem from, and it really does make a difference when cycling other cooldowns for added DPS.

MaloriakMaloriak is a relatively simple boss except for his final phase and his continual summoning of adds. As a Rogue, I often switch ahead of time to the adds and build up my Deadly Poison stacks on them roughly 5 seconds prior to his Green Phase. When the increased damage taken debuff goes active, I use the Bolt Gun on the clustered adds who are being tanked, and often see very rewarding crits and several bodies hitting the floor.

-The Bastion of Twilight-Halfus WyrmbreakerHalfus Wyrmbreaker is a relatively simple boss that changes moderately every week as to his exact abilities, however the following information is roughly universal. We often tank Halfus and set two of the drakes free, (regardless of their exact type this applies) DPSing them close to one another and the boss so they can be splashed by AoE; this includes the Bolt Gun. We don't really bother with the Emerald Whelps if they are available, but the few times we have, the Bolt Gun helped cripple them and push them closer to their eventual death later on down the road due to DoTs.

Cho'gallCho'gall is, unsurprisingly, far from a push over thanks to two key and killer mechanics. The Corruption bar, and the Festering Blood of the Old God; the black slimes in this encounter are to be burned down by DPS, however, if they reach reach their target or melee other targets (should they be rooted) they rapidly apply Corruption to the player's bar. Usually on the fourth, some times third, Festering Blood, I'll use the Bolt Gun to deal a massive amount of AoE damage to the clumped up adds. The Frost Grenade works wonders here also, by rooting the adds and allowing more precise AoE to blanket them, not to mention stop them from moving toward the raid.

-Throne of the Four Winds-AnshalAnshal is another encounter where quick add death via AoE is mandatory, however there is one notable detail. When Anshal uses his Nurture to summon his adds, the tank should be quick to pick them up and gain their attention, DPS should begin, but not go full out on AoE DPS yet. A few moments later Anshal will drop his healing green circle on himself or the adds (Soothing Breeze), this almost always heals the adds to full. The tank continues to move, pulling the boss and the adds away from the circle where DPS then burns the adds; this is the time to use the Bolt Gun, as the adds are weakened usually and you're about to switch to Nezir's platform. Usually the Bolt Gun finishes the adds as the coup de grâce and you go about transitioning.

All in all, this is an awesome reward from Engineering and I believe I'll be making use of this throughout Cataclysm for a long time yet.

Comment by ash1k1

If it hasn't been said already, in-game the tooltip says:

Use: Fires several charged bolts at an enemy for 8500 damage and briefly interrupts casting. Consumes a Handful of Obsidium Bolts each time it's fired. (2 Min Cooldown)

So it seems to have been 'nerfed'. :(

Edit:It seems it also scales with level(?), I looked at it earlier and it said 8500, now I've leveled it's saying 9371(Level 63).

Comment by Wetfish

Confirmed. You CAN cast high-powered bolt gun while moving/jumping.

Comment by gobm

Sorry but you are wrong, at the beginning of WOTLK training to 450 was required level 55 instead of the 65 it is now I assume they changed it because the items were to OP, and also if there was a bug with the outland trainers it wouldn't matter because outland trains to 375 not 450, I know many 60 twinks with 450 eng and I doubt the person got changed down to 300, and if he did get bumped down (which I highly doubt he did) they wouldn't just bump him down to a random number it would have been to 375 which is the highest new 60s can train to.

Comment by Rankkor

This is my gun, Sasha, she weighs one hundred fifty kilograms and fires 25g custom-tooled cartridges of overheated Obsidum bolts at a hundred and fifty rounds per hour. It costs four thousand six hundred and 80 gold coins to fire this baby for Six Hours."

and she is tottaly worth it.

Comment by TheHeroOfTheDawn

QQ cause this gun causes more PewPew! It'll blow your L70 ass up!

Comment by Shadowfall739

It's possible to get this trinket at level 65 as a gnome with the passive bonus to engineering.

With full pvp gear and an heirloom staff it's easily critting for 18-20k - one shotting most mobs in instances - and everyone in the 65-69 pvp bracket.

A bit OP, I must admit.

Comment by Toroq

This item no longer has a cast time as of 4.1, meaning it's easier to weave into an AoE rotation or if you're a tank (like me) you don't have to give up your avoidance for 0.5 sec to use it.

Nerfed again with 4.2, it now has a cast time of 1.5 sec, which is an entire second longer than the previous version.

Comment by goblinlord

As of this patch, the small cast time has been removed from this gun. It is still, however, on the GCD.

Comment by kavala

And Blizzard brings ammo back to the game

Comment by Zepeen

This item should get a level cap added to it. I know blizzard doesnt balance around low level, but this item is just ridiculous in bgs such as WSG in the 65-69 bracket.

Comment by cruelkittie

Love this gun from 65-69 bgs on my hunter in survival one shotted anything in aoe effect and with nitro boost to make a quick getaway since u have to get up close and since ive made my hunter into a 70 twink in bgs its still just as much fun cant one shot people as much anymore but a good healthy knockdown of 3/4 of their health is always nice

Comment by citrique

Seems to have a cast time again this patch, and it resets swing timer / stops melee actions while casting. Nerfed into uselessness again for no good reason, gg blizz.

ed: You can cast it while moving though, but it's still useless.

Comment by avelisklord

As for patch 4.2 this item had been nerfed to 1.5s casting time up from 0.5s

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Comment by Drahkon

Might not be a bad idea to post your toons level/eng skill when mentioning the damage any more, it appears it may scale. The tooltip shows 7300 to 10951 at max level/skill. Still hitting for fire damage.

Comment by Dractulamede

So this is a "gun" that works like a bomb-right click on it and you get the green targeting circle. No need to equip such as with a normal gun. And, unlike a normal gun, it needs obsidium bolts to use as "bullets." Even worse, it is "bind on use." You have to be a lvl 450 engineer or above to use it.

A very odd piece of gear for sure. It was hitting the mobs inside Drak'Tharon for 7-9k damage. I'm a lvl 85 DK with 483 eng skill.

BTW, since this thing works like a bomb, you can blast people of your own faction, shoot at fountains, etc., for fun or whatever.

Comment by archonoid

Got discovered some bugs with this gun.. if you use it while in feral forms it is not working and remaining on your character's hands (after you exit from feral forms).. and spamming the use macro or item shortcut doesn't make it work... simply you have to relog or something.

if you are a feral druid I recommend you to use it afther when you shape shift to caster form, otherwise it stucks and cannotbe usable without reloading...

Comment by fearmenoob

Just a heads-up on this item. Nerfed substantially (stealth nerf?) in the 70 twink bracket. Before the nerf you could one shot people, i have seen a 14k crit from this thing. Now its barely worth getting, however still better than nothing, especially for melee.

Comment by sawier

not so high-powered any more :/ but it was fun when it lasted one-shot almost all people in dreks room>priceless

Comment by OverZealous

Goblins sure know their way around the universe, they even managed to get themselves bolters from the far off future.

Comment by Ilsor

When placed on Action Bar, the gun will show remaining bolts on its icon.

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Comment by doctorgray

To anyone wondering about the nerfs:

They nerfed both this and Bid Daddy, assumingly so that the two items wouldn't be used to literally one shot people with less than 15k health.

That said, this still works as a ranged interrupt, but isn't quite so desirable, esp considering how expensive it is to fire. I recommend using Saronite and/or Cobalt Bombs if you have them. They are much cheaper than the cata bombs and do decent damage, atleast in twink brackets. That said, the Cobalt one also incapictates the target for 3s.

Cobalt - 3s incap, 5y radiusSaronite - 15y radius

Figures might be a bit off, but it gives you a general idea.

Comment by Heresys

Hello, after reading the majority of the posts on this page, I still have a question or two as the information seems to jump around and the posts aren't sorted by patch etc. Firstly, does this bolt gun still do damage? the wowhead info at the top of the page lists 0 damage and interrupts the target.Secondly, can this still be fired on the move? I see it has a 1.5 second cast time, but is that a stationary cast time? or a mobile cast?

My shaman is currently 64 so I can't learn this yet, but I'm really hoping that it's still good for some laughs in 65-69 pvp as I plan on spending a bit of time in that bracket for chuckles.

Cheers.

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Comment by NightmareMJ

please keep in mind this is an AOE attack(so grant on classes like hunters that don't have many aoe options) and to mix in to non-channeled aoe rotation, also very useful on certain mass caster packs that like to channel long spells while they summon hordes of allies..

Comment by GooseComics

Think it should be noted that it still interrupts level 90's, so you could bind this to an ability and have an alternative interrupt.

Comment by foothillsco

Would this work on a Pandaria mob? To interrupt that is.

Comment by foothillsco

Would this interrupt a Pandaria spell caster?

Comment by LafinJack

I was looking for another ranged interrupt for my paladin tank, so I tested this on Shadowbourne Felcasters and Fel Seers in Shattrath on their own and in groups.

1. Both were interrupted, even at level 100.2. Still works while moving. 3. Didn't seem to have a cast time, my cast bar did not display.4. Didn't seem to share diminishing returns with Avenger's Shield or Reckoning - each looked to get their full 3s of silence immediately after bolting the mob.5. Did trigger the GCD for normal abilities (i.e. NOT my abilities which are not on the GCD like Shield of the Righteous and Word of Glory)6. Its 2m cooldown did start counting down immediately like a normal ability (i.e. doesn't wait until out of combat like potions/Mecha-Blast Rocket/Shieldtronic Shield)7. Didn't seem to share cooldowns with any other engineering gadgets I have, though I don't use bombs to check.8. Did about ~900 damage.