I have the Pro Sl and really like it.I considered the Sette but went for the SL.The Sette is a very nicely spec'd bike BUT it is $200 more,has a 80mm fork and SRAM .While SRAM is great I just prefer Shimano but thats just me.The money I saved went into pedals/shoes and a few other things.

Razzo or Motobecane, they are both pretty close with the Razzo being better looking (IMHO), a bit lighter, but with the Moto having better specs on the derailers (Deore/XT//XTR vs. X7/X9). Both are good bikes and have received great reviews, it all just depends on what you're after. The Access just falls behind with just the Tora SL, X-7 deraillers, and Avid Elixir 5 brakes. That bike is more closely specced like the Windsor Cliff 29er Pro or Motobecane Fantom 29er Pro (not SL version).

I have ridden the hell out of my Pro SL for over a year. It's a great bike. I considered the Razzo, but am happy with the Moto. I am going to buy a new 29er and suspect I'll end up with the Moto Fly Ti.

Should Access discounts trump personal preference for Sette when money is concern?

Just received coupons for 25% and 10% off of performance purchase (stackable). Also figure if go with 'buyers club' membership would get an additional 10% in bike bucks. So would get access (lookin' at 9.7 as budget is ~$1,000) for 40% off (net cost ~$610) depending on how the bike bucks would be calculated (orig price vs paid price). Comments here created a preference for Sette Razzo but they are currently out of stock for my size (20). I am thinking for the price differential the Access will do just fine. Just started mountain biking, wanna do the Ouachita Challenge in April next year with my son, 6'2" and 200lbs, have used another 29er in past but it was low end and it did not stand up to use very well (lasted about 3 months, wheel dish and bottom bracket issues). Given budget constraints and the opportunity mentioned above I cannot see the advantage of the Sette over the discounted Access. Not enough experience in market to know if Pricepoint would have any discounts pending. Whaddayathink?

I know it seems like I drank the Moto kool-aid, but when you look at it... For $610 (plus shipping and or tax depending on where you live) the Access will give you a lower grade fork, brakes, shifters, and front and rear derailleurs compared to $999 for the Fantom Pro SL to your door.

I know it seems like I drank the Moto kool-aid, but when you look at it... For $610 (plus shipping and or tax depending on where you live) the Access will give you a lower grade fork, brakes, shifters, and front and rear derailleurs compared to $999 for the Fantom Pro SL to your door.