-on cnbc interview. good to have you on the program. thanks forjoiningus. >>sure, maria. >> well, tell us, what happened first yesterday at final mediation talks? was a deal ever close? >> you know, the judge has a gag order. he'll have my head if i talk about what went on during the mediation, but i think that he wanted to make sure that he did everything in his power to try to find a deal, if there was one to be found. you know, i appreciate the fact that he went through that effort. i was hopeful, but i think realistically that was going to be a tough thing to pull off. >> how much of an implication it was the fact the union leader did not show up to those mediation talks? >> well, the leader of the bakers union sent his second in command to the meeting. i think that part of what we needed to sort of focus on is the hole that's been created by the strike and the financial damage from that strike and our inability to produce at some of our critical plants. really just created a brand new hole that was too large to fill. bankrupt companies don't have a lot of margin for error to begin