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Ah yes, another you take the risk, we share the profit offer. Seems like with a 400% return on investment this “professional online roulette player” would have no need of a silent partner. One also wonders how one would collect on the guarantee. Caveat emptor for sure.

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My name is Skulker Luis de Midnight.You killed my bankroll.Prepare to die.

!000 $ profit in less than a month !!! with a login of 200 $ This is not really serious . A pro can do that per day.

And to play with the account of someone esle you have to play from the same I P adress of the holder acccount !!!

I doubt if there are any actual ” professional ” roulette players posting on this site though there are a great many who “profess” to playing roulette ! A professional making $1000 a day from a $ 200 betting bank is ludicrous and the guy could ask for a deposit from paypal as your starting stake. Why not ask him ?
I can accept a player making $1000 a month from a starting bank and increasing bets as his / her profits increase but I agree with the Midnight Skulker on this one. Sounds like a pure scam.

!000 $ profit in less than a month !!! with a login of 200 $ This is not really serious . A pro can do that per day.

And to play with the account of someone esle you have to play from the same I P adress of the holder acccount !!!

I doubt if there are any actual ” professional ” roulette players posting on this site though there are a great many who “profess” to playing roulette ! A professional making $1000 a day from a $ 200 betting bank is ludicrous and the guy could ask for a deposit from paypal as your starting stake. Why not ask him ?
I can accept a player making $1000 a month from a starting bank and increasing bets as his / her profits increase but I agree with the Midnight Skulker on this one. Sounds like a pure scam.

What you think is really not important. I am a professional. There is a member from this site whom I taught who is a full time pro now. As I understand his target per day is very modest but achieved more often thqn not and it is his only income.

Regarding this offer. Who ever considers it must have their heads read. You will carry all the risk. He carries none. Hell he does not even have to play. Just take 20 people for a cool 4k and run…..

!000 $ profit in less than a month !!! with a login of 200 $ This is not really serious . A pro can do that per day.

And to play with the account of someone esle you have to play from the same I P adress of the holder acccount !!!

I doubt if there are any actual ” professional ” roulette players posting on this site though there are a great many who “profess” to playing roulette ! A professional making $1000 a day from a $ 200 betting bank is ludicrous and the guy could ask for a deposit from paypal as your starting stake. Why not ask him ?
I can accept a player making $1000 a month from a starting bank and increasing bets as his / her profits increase but I agree with the Midnight Skulker on this one. Sounds like a pure scam.

What you think is really not important. I am a professional. There is a member from this site whom I taught who is a full time pro now. As I understand his target per day is very modest but achieved more often thqn not and it is his only income.

Regarding this offer. Who ever considers it must have their heads read. You will carry all the risk. He carries none. Hell he does not even have to play. Just take 20 people for a cool 4k and run…..

If you really do make a living from betting on roulette I congratulate you. While, obviously, I cannot prove it I very much doubt it. My reason for thinking that is from reading your previous posts.
A couple of examples will suffice.
In your post of 081212 you claimed that you won every time.
In your post of 211212 you said that was no Holy Grail. You clearly don’t realise that “winning every time ” IS the Holy Grail .

In your post of 091212 you said that if the wheel was ” difficult” you bet small or did not bet at all. Yet you still maintain that you play
biased wheels. Your understanding of what is a biased wheel is markedly different from what most experienced gamblers mean by a biased wheel. The general consensus is that the wheel ,for one reason or another, favours one section of the wheel .When a gambler finds one he continues to bet those numbers which are favoured .So if he does find a biased wheel there is no “difficulty “as you claim.
Furthermore, it is generally agreed that finding the bias takes many more spins than you claim and cannot be found in a few hours as you have also claimed.
Those who don’t know about biased wheels may wish to log into an article by Ed.Thorp - he of blackjack fame - who together with his friend Paul Shannon looked into biased wheels. Type in Ed Thorp in your search box -find “The Mathematics of Gambling” -and scroll down to The Wheel - then Roulette. An interesting article for roulette gamblers.

!000 $ profit in less than a month !!! with a login of 200 $ This is not really serious . A pro can do that per day.

And to play with the account of someone esle you have to play from the same I P adress of the holder acccount !!!

I doubt if there are any actual ” professional ” roulette players posting on this site though there are a great many who “profess” to playing roulette ! A professional making $1000 a day from a $ 200 betting bank is ludicrous and the guy could ask for a deposit from paypal as your starting stake. Why not ask him ?
I can accept a player making $1000 a month from a starting bank and increasing bets as his / her profits increase but I agree with the Midnight Skulker on this one. Sounds like a pure scam.

What you think is really not important. I am a professional. There is a member from this site whom I taught who is a full time pro now. As I understand his target per day is very modest but achieved more often thqn not and it is his only income.

Regarding this offer. Who ever considers it must have their heads read. You will carry all the risk. He carries none. Hell he does not even have to play. Just take 20 people for a cool 4k and run…..

If you really do make a living from betting on roulette I congratulate you. While, obviously, I cannot prove it I very much doubt it. My reason for thinking that is from reading your previous posts.
A couple of examples will suffice.
In your post of 081212 you claimed that you won every time.
In your post of 211212 you said that was no Holy Grail. You clearly don’t realise that “winning every time ” IS the Holy Grail .

In your post of 091212 you said that if the wheel was ” difficult” you bet small or did not bet at all. Yet you still maintain that you play
biased wheels. Your understanding of what is a biased wheel is markedly different from what most experienced gamblers mean by a biased wheel. The general consensus is that the wheel ,for one reason or another, favours one section of the wheel .When a gambler finds one he continues to bet those numbers which are favoured .So if he does find a biased wheel there is no “difficulty “as you claim.
Furthermore, it is generally agreed that finding the bias takes many more spins than you claim and cannot be found in a few hours as you have also claimed.
Those who don’t know about biased wheels may wish to log into an article by Ed.Thorp - he of blackjack fame - who together with his friend Paul Shannon looked into biased wheels. Type in Ed Thorp in your search box -find “The Mathematics of Gambling” -and scroll down to The Wheel - then Roulette. An interesting article for roulette gamblers.

I do win 99% of sessions simply because I play when conditions are ideal.

YOUR knowledge of bias is non existant.

The bias you are referring to has more to do with pocket bias or a combination of different bias creating certain pockets to hit more frequently than others.

‘TILTED’ means that a wheel is out of level which one does not see often because casinos level in most cases every morning. It can however go out of level because of bumps etc. ‘BIAS’ which is used in visual ballistics has the SAME effect as ‘TILTED’, in other words the ball comes down in the same place on the bowl almost as if the wheel is tilted. SO, SORRY to have to inform you but those who say they play tilted wheels most probably are playing bias wheels giving the same effect as a tilted wheel.

As I have numerous time before explained, (You only seem to try and refer to things YOU think will prove me wrong and not any of my posts clearly explaining how AP works) bias for vb play is usually caused by track defects which is caused by a twisted or warped wheel track. (No, it does not have to be an old wheel. I have seen brand new wheels with such defects)

I realize I obviously have typed too long a reply again. With you one should only post one line replies, so that you can hopefully take in what has been said. Anything longer and you misinterpret everything. You most probably have ADD.

!000 $ profit in less than a month !!! with a login of 200 $ This is not really serious . A pro can do that per day.

And to play with the account of someone esle you have to play from the same I P adress of the holder acccount !!!

I doubt if there are any actual ” professional ” roulette players posting on this site though there are a great many who “profess” to playing roulette ! A professional making $1000 a day from a $ 200 betting bank is ludicrous and the guy could ask for a deposit from paypal as your starting stake. Why not ask him ?
I can accept a player making $1000 a month from a starting bank and increasing bets as his / her profits increase but I agree with the Midnight Skulker on this one. Sounds like a pure scam.

What you think is really not important. I am a professional. There is a member from this site whom I taught who is a full time pro now. As I understand his target per day is very modest but achieved more often thqn not and it is his only income.

Regarding this offer. Who ever considers it must have their heads read. You will carry all the risk. He carries none. Hell he does not even have to play. Just take 20 people for a cool 4k and run…..

If you really do make a living from betting on roulette I congratulate you. While, obviously, I cannot prove it I very much doubt it. My reason for thinking that is from reading your previous posts.
A couple of examples will suffice.
In your post of 081212 you claimed that you won every time.
In your post of 211212 you said that was no Holy Grail. You clearly don’t realise that “winning every time ” IS the Holy Grail .

In your post of 091212 you said that if the wheel was ” difficult” you bet small or did not bet at all. Yet you still maintain that you play
biased wheels. Your understanding of what is a biased wheel is markedly different from what most experienced gamblers mean by a biased wheel. The general consensus is that the wheel ,for one reason or another, favours one section of the wheel .When a gambler finds one he continues to bet those numbers which are favoured .So if he does find a biased wheel there is no “difficulty “as you claim.
Furthermore, it is generally agreed that finding the bias takes many more spins than you claim and cannot be found in a few hours as you have also claimed.
Those who don’t know about biased wheels may wish to log into an article by Ed.Thorp - he of blackjack fame - who together with his friend Paul Shannon looked into biased wheels. Type in Ed Thorp in your search box -find “The Mathematics of Gambling” -and scroll down to The Wheel - then Roulette. An interesting article for roulette gamblers.

I do win 99% of sessions simply because I play when conditions are ideal.

YOUR knowledge of bias is non existant.

The bias you are referring to has more to do with pocket bias or a combination of different bias creating certain pockets to hit more frequently than others.

‘TILTED’ means that a wheel is out of level which one does not see often because casinos level in most cases every morning. It can however go out of level because of bumps etc. ‘BIAS’ which is used in visual ballistics has the SAME effect as ‘TILTED’, in other words the ball comes down in the same place on the bowl almost as if the wheel is tilted. SO, SORRY to have to inform you but those who say they play tilted wheels most probably are playing bias wheels giving the same effect as a tilted wheel.

As I have numerous time before explained, (You only seem to try and refer to things YOU think will prove me wrong and not any of my posts clearly explaining how AP works) bias for vb play is usually caused by track defects which is caused by a twisted or warped wheel track. (No, it does not have to be an old wheel. I have seen brand new wheels with such defects)

I realize I obviously have typed too long a reply again. With you one should only post one line replies, so that you can hopefully take in what has been said. Anything longer and you misinterpret everything. You most probably have ADD.

Yes, VB you should stick to one line posts because you continue a long line of posts which are either contradictory or just plain wrong.. I don’t need to prove you wrong VB you do that yourself with your posts!
First, you claim that you win 99% of your sessions when you previously claimed 100%.So which is it ? Anyway, it is possible for a gambler to win 99% of his sessions and still lose !
Secondly, you claim that I am ignorant about “bias” when it is you who clearly doesn’t understand what is meant by bias. You claim that you find biased wheel every time you go to the casino, which is every day. First of all you will need at least 370 spins to get somewhat reliable results. And that will take ten hours or more .Each number will need to have an expected frequency on a live table of at least 10 times to make your calculations credible - and you start betting after no more than an hour !
Then you have to know the EXPECTED frequency of every number under the assumption that the wheel is NOT biased, ie. divide the spins by 37. Then for every number from 0 to 37 calculate the difference between observed frequency and expected frequency. Then you have to sum all the squares of the differences from 0 to 37. Then divide the result by the expected frequency .And only if the number is sufficiently bigger than 50.0 can assume that the wheel is biased. Otherwise there is no reason to believe it is biased. That is my understanding about finding a biased wheel , so what is yours ? Remember you claimed that you only bet on biased wheels !As roulettedealer said in one of his posts his AP works on any wheel whether biased or not because you both claim to be dealing with the physical aspects of the wheel . Why don’t you post your theory on a physicists’ site and see what real physicists think about it ?

Actually, VB, I don’t care whether you win or lose or stick with your AP method. It’s just that I deplore your contempt for ANYONE who posts here and who bets differently from you.Your arrogance is appalling .It’s our money and our call and we don’t need your approval. You are entitled to your opinion but so is everyone else. So respect others’ opinion .If you do that I don’t have a problem with you.
But perhaps I should have taken the gayotee option and just ignored your posts !

p.s. And my four numbers are still profitable. How many months is it that you said that I was just lucky ?

!000 $ profit in less than a month !!! with a login of 200 $ This is not really serious . A pro can do that per day.

And to play with the account of someone esle you have to play from the same I P adress of the holder acccount !!!

I doubt if there are any actual ” professional ” roulette players posting on this site though there are a great many who “profess” to playing roulette ! A professional making $1000 a day from a $ 200 betting bank is ludicrous and the guy could ask for a deposit from paypal as your starting stake. Why not ask him ?
I can accept a player making $1000 a month from a starting bank and increasing bets as his / her profits increase but I agree with the Midnight Skulker on this one. Sounds like a pure scam.

What you think is really not important. I am a professional. There is a member from this site whom I taught who is a full time pro now. As I understand his target per day is very modest but achieved more often thqn not and it is his only income.

Regarding this offer. Who ever considers it must have their heads read. You will carry all the risk. He carries none. Hell he does not even have to play. Just take 20 people for a cool 4k and run…..

Ok Scep. I am done with you. Just to clear up bias for you. Old school bias tracking (more specifically pocket bias, which is what you understqnd as all bias) is determined by tracking the results on a wheel. You need a minimum of 3700/3800 spins depending on 0/00. That means 100 samples of 37/38 spins. Typically the standard deviation for each number is analyzed. Numbers with standard deviation of 3+ is what we look at. On such a wheel if there are bias number there will also be negative bias numbers in other words these numbers will appear less than the expected 1/37. usually that is because hits are taken away from these numbers by the positive bias numbers. That is old school though and I do not know of anyone successfully still using this method simply because of casino counter measures, things like turning the number ring for instance.

I can determine with a 95% certainty whether a wheel has bias within an hour of studying a wheel. I do not look at number results but I look at tell tale signs and defects. I can and do map a wheel within an hour. These specific techniques are new school and unfortunately not for sharing.

If you really do make a living from betting on roulette I congratulate you. While, obviously, I cannot prove it I very much doubt it. My reason for thinking that is from reading your previous posts.
A couple of examples will suffice.
In your post of 081212 you claimed that you won every time.
In your post of 211212 you said that was no Holy Grail. You clearly don’t realise that “winning every time ” IS the Holy Grail .

In your post of 091212 you said that if the wheel was ” difficult” you bet small or did not bet at all. Yet you still maintain that you play
biased wheels. Your understanding of what is a biased wheel is markedly different from what most experienced gamblers mean by a biased wheel. The general consensus is that the wheel ,for one reason or another, favours one section of the wheel .When a gambler finds one he continues to bet those numbers which are favoured .So if he does find a biased wheel there is no “difficulty “as you claim.
Furthermore, it is generally agreed that finding the bias takes many more spins than you claim and cannot be found in a few hours as you have also claimed.
Those who don’t know about biased wheels may wish to log into an article by Ed.Thorp - he of blackjack fame - who together with his friend Paul Shannon looked into biased wheels. Type in Ed Thorp in your search box -find “The Mathematics of Gambling” -and scroll down to The Wheel - then Roulette. An interesting article for roulette gamblers.

I do win 99% of sessions simply because I play when conditions are ideal.

YOUR knowledge of bias is non existant.

The bias you are referring to has more to do with pocket bias or a combination of different bias creating certain pockets to hit more frequently than others.

‘TILTED’ means that a wheel is out of level which one does not see often because casinos level in most cases every morning. It can however go out of level because of bumps etc. ‘BIAS’ which is used in visual ballistics has the SAME effect as ‘TILTED’, in other words the ball comes down in the same place on the bowl almost as if the wheel is tilted. SO, SORRY to have to inform you but those who say they play tilted wheels most probably are playing bias wheels giving the same effect as a tilted wheel.

As I have numerous time before explained, (You only seem to try and refer to things YOU think will prove me wrong and not any of my posts clearly explaining how AP works) bias for vb play is usually caused by track defects which is caused by a twisted or warped wheel track. (No, it does not have to be an old wheel. I have seen brand new wheels with such defects)

I realize I obviously have typed too long a reply again. With you one should only post one line replies, so that you can hopefully take in what has been said. Anything longer and you misinterpret everything. You most probably have ADD.

Yes, VB you should stick to one line posts because you continue a long line of posts which are either contradictory or just plain wrong.. I don’t need to prove you wrong VB you do that yourself with your posts!
First, you claim that you win 99% of your sessions when you previously claimed 100%.So which is it ? Anyway, it is possible for a gambler to win 99% of his sessions and still lose !
Secondly, you claim that I am ignorant about “bias” when it is you who clearly doesn’t understand what is meant by bias. You claim that you find biased wheel every time you go to the casino, which is every day. First of all you will need at least 370 spins to get somewhat reliable results. And that will take ten hours or more .Each number will need to have an expected frequency on a live table of at least 10 times to make your calculations credible - and you start betting after no more than an hour !
Then you have to know the EXPECTED frequency of every number under the assumption that the wheel is NOT biased, ie. divide the spins by 37. Then for every number from 0 to 37 calculate the difference between observed frequency and expected frequency. Then you have to sum all the squares of the differences from 0 to 37. Then divide the result by the expected frequency .And only if the number is sufficiently bigger than 50.0 can assume that the wheel is biased. Otherwise there is no reason to believe it is biased. That is my understanding about finding a biased wheel , so what is yours ? Remember you claimed that you only bet on biased wheels !As roulettedealer said in one of his posts his AP works on any wheel whether biased or not because you both claim to be dealing with the physical aspects of the wheel . Why don’t you post your theory on a physicists’ site and see what real physicists think about it ?

Actually, VB, I don’t care whether you win or lose or stick with your AP method. It’s just that I deplore your contempt for ANYONE who posts here and who bets differently from you.Your arrogance is appalling .It’s our money and our call and we don’t need your approval. You are entitled to your opinion but so is everyone else. So respect others’ opinion .If you do that I don’t have a problem with you.
But perhaps I should have taken the gayotee option and just ignored your posts !

p.s. And my four numbers are still profitable. How many months is it that you said that I was just lucky ?

VB Meistert
You said,
” I can determine with a 95% certainty whether a wheel has bias within an hour of studying a wheel. I do not look at number results but I look at tell tale signs and defects. I can and do map a wheel within an hour. These specific techniques are new school and unfortunately not for sharing.”

I am from “the old school” and ,yes, I understood ” bias ” to be as I described. and I freely concede that if you can indeed do as you claim then , clearly ,you are a winner.
But my main objection to your posts was your attitude to anyone who does not use your AP techniques. and to your view that no other method could win ” in the long term ” and your castigating anyone who dared to claim such.
And, yes we are done .
And Good Luck.

VB Meistert
You said,
” I can determine with a 95% certainty whether a wheel has bias within an hour of studying a wheel. I do not look at number results but I look at tell tale signs and defects. I can and do map a wheel within an hour. These specific techniques are new school and unfortunately not for sharing.”

I am from “the old school” and ,yes, I understood ” bias ” to be as I described. and I freely concede that if you can indeed do as you claim then , clearly ,you are a winner.
But my main objection to your posts was your attitude to anyone who does not use your AP techniques. and to your view that no other method could win ” in the long term ” and your castigating anyone who dared to claim such.
And, yes we are done .
And Good Luck.

Simply because AP is the only proven way to beat roulette. No other method can, or has been proven, to beat roulette. Those are the facts.

VB you must admit “SCEP ” has a point. While AP methods may be the only GUARANTEED method for those who have the special abilities,” Mathematical” methods still produce winners. Sure there are risks, bet those risks can be managed. Businessmen manage far greater risks every day! The trouble with most punters is that they are not prepared to make the effort to learn your methods or mine. They want to be told in a couple of simple sentences how to defeat an industry worth hundreds of Billion dollars, without ever using the brain God gave them!
I say good luck to you all whatever method you use. The casinos can afford a few winners.

VB you must admit “SCEP ” has a point. While AP methods may be the only GUARANTEED method for those who have the special abilities,” Mathematical” methods still produce winners. Sure there are risks, bet those risks can be managed. Businessmen manage far greater risks every day! The trouble with most punters is that they are not prepared to make the effort to learn your methods or mine. They want to be told in a couple of simple sentences how to defeat an industry worth hundreds of Billion dollars, without ever using the brain God gave them!
I say good luck to you all whatever method you use. The casinos can afford a few winners.

I do not know what system Scep is using now. At least he isn’t using his own theories. The thing is that if he uses another strategy not based on AP, it will loose longrun. Business men do not have HE to cope with

Whoever here says they have a method other than AP that beats the game in the longrun, then they must be able to prove why it will win. Unfortunately because it is a negative expectancy game and blind betting is used, there is no reason why any system should or could work.

The fact is this. You can have a system that looses $1 after 10000000 spins. Is it a looser? yes. You have a system that makes $10 after 10000000 spins. Is it a winner…. technical yes…realistically no. What is longterm? It is your whole career. The day you quit, if you had to keep score, except if by luck, you will be down. Forget about winning for 6 months. The losses will catch up and eventually you will be down.

VB you must admit “SCEP ” has a point. While AP methods may be the only GUARANTEED method for those who have the special abilities,” Mathematical” methods still produce winners. Sure there are risks, bet those risks can be managed. Businessmen manage far greater risks every day! The trouble with most punters is that they are not prepared to make the effort to learn your methods or mine. They want to be told in a couple of simple sentences how to defeat an industry worth hundreds of Billion dollars, without ever using the brain God gave them!
I say good luck to you all whatever method you use. The casinos can afford a few winners.

Harry.
I have VB Meister down as a fantasist and suggest that we don’t give his addled brain any more oxygen. Gayotee was right , ignore the twat.
He has been rubbishing everyone who does not accept his version of AP since at least 2011.
In his latest reply to you he says that I do not use my own theory .How does he know ?Is he telepathic ? No. he is simply a LIAR because I do use my own theory. My target for each visit is 100 chips. and I actually did win exactly 100 chips on my last visit and in 20 spins.But how do, I prove it without revealing what I do.And with my 4 chip bet which VB Meister rubbishes. !
Go back over his posts and you will find numerous inconsistencies .In one post he says he always wins, in another he says he wins 99% of the time and in another he says that while he has an edge he might not win on the day He claims that the HE will destroy anyone not using AP and yet claims that Probability Theory does not work ! .No rational man would be as inconsistent as that. Or be so hostile to others solely because they do not agree with him.
For these reasons I think we should let him taik only to his inflated ego.

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