Music... a big void for Secular and sensible people !!! - Atheist Nexus2016-12-09T18:52:53Zhttp://atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/music-a-big-void-for-secular-and-sensible-people?groupUrl=atheistnews&commentId=2182797%3AComment%3A1908767&xg_source=activity&groupId=2182797%3AGroup%3A3247&feed=yes&xn_auth=noNice to see you reveal your t…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-04-06:2182797:Comment:19152872012-04-06T00:52:13.211ZRichard ∑waldhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/RichardEwald
<p>Nice to see you reveal your true self...</p>
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<p>There are no taunts, just valid questions.</p>
<p>No pontificating, just valid questions.</p>
<p>No cynicism, just valid questions.</p>
<p>No profanity, insults or personal attacks.</p>
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<p>Too bad you can't say the same.</p>
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<p>BTW: </p>
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<p>Todd Stiefel's band, Words Such As Burn, has an EP out.</p>
<p>It can be purchased…</p>
<p>Nice to see you reveal your true self...</p>
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<p>There are no taunts, just valid questions.</p>
<p>No pontificating, just valid questions.</p>
<p>No cynicism, just valid questions.</p>
<p>No profanity, insults or personal attacks.</p>
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<p>Too bad you can't say the same.</p>
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<p>BTW: </p>
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<p>Todd Stiefel's band, Words Such As Burn, has an EP out.</p>
<p>It can be purchased <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.amazon.com/Flow/dp/B006UEZ1R2/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1333666496&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p>55% of all proceeds are being donated to <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.facebook.com/SecularStudents">Secular Student Alliance</a></p>
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<p>Todd is also the guy who provided the funding for the Reason Rally and Rock Beyond Belief.</p> and your website sez what ?…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-04-06:2182797:Comment:19152172012-04-06T00:32:33.893ZGlenn Friedmanhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/GlennFriedman
<p><strong>and your website sez what</strong> ? How many millions of cds sold ? Who you have worked with ? Gimmie a break , you should bite your lip. You are so wrong , I'm laughing....</p>
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<p><strong>This will be a labor of love once the money is place with the talent, great songs from different genres. (</strong> <em>BTW</em><strong> </strong><em>My website has not been updated in a year and will soon reflect my <span style="text-decoration: underline;">commercial</span> coming out…</em></p>
<p><strong>and your website sez what</strong> ? How many millions of cds sold ? Who you have worked with ? Gimmie a break , you should bite your lip. You are so wrong , I'm laughing....</p>
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<p><strong>This will be a labor of love once the money is place with the talent, great songs from different genres. (</strong> <em>BTW</em><strong> </strong><em>My website has not been updated in a year and will soon reflect my <span style="text-decoration: underline;">commercial</span> coming out party with this awe inspiring music.)</em></p>
<p>Atheism /humanism has room for ego maniacs, congratulations !!!</p>
<p>I will succeed in making my first , non profit, compilation cd with <span style="text-decoration: underline;">new</span> music by humanists and naturalists. I'm affraid once again y<span style="text-decoration: underline;">ou will <strong>not</strong> be asked</span> or <span style="text-decoration: underline;">pick to play</span> on it because of your cynical, mean spirited ,presumptious attitude. </p>
<p>But no matter, I raise my glass to someone who <span style="text-decoration: underline;">has</span> to be <span style="text-decoration: underline;">right.</span> .</p>
<p>Thanks again for pointifcating and good luck with your career. You obviously have had a real big one of being a cynic and a skillful annoyance to others !! . I'm impressed with your "red" letter skills. Man , you are a good detective and a wiz on this site.. Bollocks !</p>
<p><strong>Again , if you want to discuss any of this, PM me</strong>. I will no longer answer your taunts .</p>
<p>Actually I take it back for just one more time I will respond, FUCK YOU and even funnier , GOD DAMN YOU. <strong>:)</strong></p>
<p><em>Jesus loves even the meek. : () ( laughing , good riddance bub ) </em></p> "I have laid it out here in t…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-04-05:2182797:Comment:19151722012-04-05T20:53:27.168ZRichard ∑waldhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/RichardEwald
<blockquote><p>"I have laid it out here in this forum because of the lack of music which reflects the humanist point of view."</p>
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<p>There already exists such music:</p>
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<li>Aiden</li>
<li>Words Such As Burn</li>
<li>Dan Barker</li>
<li>Roy Zimmerman</li>
<li>Shelley Segal</li>
<li>Björk</li>
<li>Baba Brinkman</li>
<li>Ani Defranco</li>
<li><em>This is a very long list…</em></li>
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<p>"I…</p>
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<blockquote><p>"I have laid it out here in this forum because of the lack of music which reflects the humanist point of view."</p>
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<p>There already exists such music:</p>
<ul>
<li>Aiden</li>
<li>Words Such As Burn</li>
<li>Dan Barker</li>
<li>Roy Zimmerman</li>
<li>Shelley Segal</li>
<li>Björk</li>
<li>Baba Brinkman</li>
<li>Ani Defranco</li>
<li><em>This is a very long list…</em></li>
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<p>"I <span style="text-decoration: underline;">will not get into a a pissing match</span> with you, a professional musician , <span style="text-decoration: underline;">a cynical person, who assumes to know everything</span> about this alturistic <em>possibl</em>e endeavor."</p>
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<p>Nice how you contradict yourself in a single sentence there, Glenn. Do note, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">I have not attacked you</span> personally a single time (and still won't), presumed any "knowledge" of your plan (other than what can be gleaned from your commercial site link), or offered a single cynical comment, <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>I've just asked questions</strong></span>.</p>
<blockquote><p>"Consider this, if you want to help and know more details as this is just starting to come together then PM me, as suggested before if not, <strong>our public conversation is over</strong>."</p>
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<p>Wrong, if you think you can insult someone publicly and finish up with a "STFU", no matter how thinly veiled it is, perhaps you need to rethink what you define as "civil".</p>
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<p>One suggestion: if you are going to link posts to your commercial website concerning <em>"this endeavor"</em>; have something there that is relevant to your project. All I can find at your site FAQ (or anywhere else) is:</p>
<p><a href="http://api.ning.com:80/files/jXosT4SyaUs04tzxRmYbmCZZUAibaLlKahcwvKhewX5jacLAzn*V38or4fuYZ9BnhsxgiK7WT2BmuscknLMgWM7okP49RrnA/012000.jpg" target="_self"><img src="http://api.ning.com:80/files/jXosT4SyaUs04tzxRmYbmCZZUAibaLlKahcwvKhewX5jacLAzn*V38or4fuYZ9BnhsxgiK7WT2BmuscknLMgWM7okP49RrnA/012000.jpg" width="706" class="align-full"/></a></p>
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<p>My question wasn't cynicism, or assumption, it was honest skepticism based on <span style="text-decoration: underline;">information you provided</span>, …period. There is no information on your linked commercial website related to your "alturistic <em>possibl</em>e endeavor"; so why post the link?</p>
<p>Lacking any relevance in the commercial link, I asked an honest question based on <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.atheistnexus.org/page/rules-guidelines#Rules" target="_blank">the rules of this site concerning "cross-posting" and "spam".</a> In particular; rule <strong>9-c (spam definitions)</strong> and guideline <strong>4 (cross-posting)</strong></p>
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<p>As well, at this point you should also consider rule <strong>3-a (concerning ad hominem attacks)</strong>, and the guideline <strong>10</strong>, especially guideline -10 with regards to my original question, which states:</p>
<blockquote><p>Atheist Nexus is largely a user driven community. It is expected for members to assist each other to ensure these guidelines are implemented and followed to maintain site standards. These guidelines are not intended to stifle communication, but rather to encourage a healthy and respectful culture for all users, and minimize disruptive posting practices.</p>
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<p>As I'm probably not the only one to notice that your commercial link had absolutely no mention of this "project", my asking you publicly (while providing you with a relevant link) was not an attempt to stop you from your project, but to clarify intent and perhaps make it clear on your linked commercial website that this is an actual project.</p>
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<p></p> First of all, this will be a…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-04-05:2182797:Comment:19149702012-04-05T16:05:20.305ZGlenn Friedmanhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/GlennFriedman
<p><strong>First of all, this will be a non profit venture</strong>.</p>
<p>I have laid it out here in this forum because of the lack of music which reflects the humanist point of view. This is a work in progress.</p>
<p>I have already received several e mails and p ms from people who wish to help make this a reality... We need help from all sectors of the business and creative types.</p>
<p>I will not get into a a pissing match with you, a professional musician , a cynical person, who assumes…</p>
<p><strong>First of all, this will be a non profit venture</strong>.</p>
<p>I have laid it out here in this forum because of the lack of music which reflects the humanist point of view. This is a work in progress.</p>
<p>I have already received several e mails and p ms from people who wish to help make this a reality... We need help from all sectors of the business and creative types.</p>
<p>I will not get into a a pissing match with you, a professional musician , a cynical person, who assumes to know everything about this alturistic <em>possibl</em>e endevour.</p>
<p>Consider this, if you want to help and know more details as this is just starting to come together then PM me, as suggested before if not, <strong>our public conversation is over</strong>.</p>
<p>Good luck with your career.</p> "We need music to help our me…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-04-04:2182797:Comment:19137092012-04-04T11:19:38.764ZRichard ∑waldhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/RichardEwald
<blockquote><p>"<strong>We need music to help our message. If you don't agree, so be it."</strong></p>
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<p>Where did I not agree? Further, I already support the type of thing you are trying to sell here. It already exists and I might add, is transparent as to "where the money goes".</p>
<blockquote><p>"<strong>Spam is selling something we don't want. I'm not part of any secular non profit group. Just an atheist/ humanist who wants music to be part of our collective message. I…</strong></p>
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<blockquote><p>"<strong>We need music to help our message. If you don't agree, so be it."</strong></p>
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<p>Where did I not agree? Further, I already support the type of thing you are trying to sell here. It already exists and I might add, is transparent as to "where the money goes".</p>
<blockquote><p>"<strong>Spam is selling something we don't want. I'm not part of any secular non profit group. Just an atheist/ humanist who wants music to be part of our collective message. I guess if you don't want to participate"</strong></p>
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<p>Where does the money go?</p>
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<p>"<strong> If you have more of a problem then contact me directly and we can discuss like civilised people."</strong></p>
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<p>Transparency is better, I have nothing to hide.</p>
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<p>I like the implication that my reply to you (above) isn't civilized.</p>
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<p>Still, you've already demonstrated that you either haven't read the site posting <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.atheistnexus.org/page/rules-guidelines" target="_blank">rules and guidelines</a> (do read carefully the rules concerning spam), or you're just ignoring them.</p>
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<p>Please don't try to further demonize me for asking questions that are quite germane to the discussion. You'll find that I defend myself against intellectually dishonest attacks, I've been an atheist (and a professional musician) for too many decades to have not figured out how.</p>
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<li>Are you recording people at your studio, <em>out of pocket;</em> or charging a fee?</li>
<li>Who is going to distribute, publish, etc.?</li>
<li>Where will the money go?</li>
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<p>These are all honest questions, and asked quite civilly, without even the need to bold text.</p> So far so good, thank you ...…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-03-31:2182797:Comment:19086952012-03-31T00:26:18.687ZGlenn Friedmanhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/GlennFriedman
<p>So far so good, thank you ......</p>
<p>So far so good, thank you ......</p> Not spam because I want this…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-03-31:2182797:Comment:19089322012-03-31T00:24:41.841ZGlenn Friedmanhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/GlennFriedman
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Not spam</span> because I want this community to help put this together !</strong></p>
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<p><strong>We need music to help our message. If you don't agree, so be it.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Spam is selling something we don't want. I'm not part of any secular non profit group. Just an atheist/ humanist who wants music to be part of our collective message. I guess if you don't want to…</strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Not spam</span> because I want this community to help put this together !</strong></p>
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<p><strong>We need music to help our message. If you don't agree, so be it.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Spam is selling something we don't want. I'm not part of any secular non profit group. Just an atheist/ humanist who wants music to be part of our collective message. I guess if you don't want to participate</strong></p>
<p><strong>then Richard, please block my posts on this subject, which is simply trying to enlighten and trying to spread the "gospel." If you have more of a problem then contact me directly and we can discuss like civilised people.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Thank you others for being proactive and contacting me directly. I love it . </strong></p>
<p><strong><br/></strong></p> As it comes to choral and par…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-03-31:2182797:Comment:19087672012-03-31T00:02:59.166ZLoren Millerhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/LorenMiller
<p>As it comes to choral and particularly a Capella music, I heartily recommend the handiwork of Eric Whitacre. As regards that, I submit Exhibit A:</p>
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<p>His music is exquisitely ethereal, yet rarely if ever religious. In addition, it seems I've heard in state in one interview or another that he has no religious beliefs, or did not at the time of…</p>
<p>As it comes to choral and particularly a Capella music, I heartily recommend the handiwork of Eric Whitacre. As regards that, I submit Exhibit A:</p>
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<p><iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2pg0tuah-VA?wmode=opaque" frameborder="0"></iframe>
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<p>His music is exquisitely ethereal, yet rarely if ever religious. In addition, it seems I've heard in state in one interview or another that he has no religious beliefs, or did not at the time of that interview.</p>
<p>I have a pretty fair grasp of his oeuvre, if anyone is interested in further examples.</p> I'm not even sure if these cr…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-03-30:2182797:Comment:19088802012-03-30T23:48:02.590ZRichard ∑waldhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/RichardEwald
<p>I'm not even sure if these cross-posted threads are within the <a href="http://www.atheistnexus.org/page/rules-guidelines" target="_blank">rules and guidelines</a> of this site.</p>
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<p>Is this intended to be a means of raising funds for one of the various secular non-profit groups?</p>
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<p>If not, how is this not spam?</p>
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<p>I'm not even sure if these cross-posted threads are within the <a href="http://www.atheistnexus.org/page/rules-guidelines" target="_blank">rules and guidelines</a> of this site.</p>
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<p>Is this intended to be a means of raising funds for one of the various secular non-profit groups?</p>
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<p>If not, how is this not spam?</p>
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<p></p> See below Gareth.. I was thin…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-03-30:2182797:Comment:19085212012-03-30T19:04:23.601ZGlenn Friedmanhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/GlennFriedman
<p>See below Gareth.. I was thinking of a compilation first .. and we <span style="text-decoration: underline;">can and should</span> have many different genres of music.</p>
<p>thanks .. MORE ideas please</p>
<p>See below Gareth.. I was thinking of a compilation first .. and we <span style="text-decoration: underline;">can and should</span> have many different genres of music.</p>
<p>thanks .. MORE ideas please</p>