WHERE the heck is the 3rd Pillar anyway. I just found out I have been looking at the 1st Pillar. I don't see a 3rd one anywhere from the plateau of the 2nd pillar. I only see the 1st one. I looked through the brackets of the big telescope and see the 3 symbols for the 1st pillar. The big telescope has been moved to the right coordiniates according to the picture in the book.

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Dutch

May happiness come on secret winds and surround you forever in the ways of beauty. An American Indian Blessing.

Dutch, I'll send you that symbol in the next few minutes. There are two pillars (with things of interest) besides the huge one you are on. So, the starting one is #1, then there is a skinny one (accessed with the symbol I emailed earlier), then another big one. The tram goes between the two big ones.

KateVa, don't run that "supernova" symbol too many times. You have to match the orientation of the rings around the planet in the sky to the little symbol you saw above the third set of telescope setting symbols. The "supernova" action makes the rings change their angle.

After you get it right, THEN go to the third telescope setting machine and follow the advice above.

EDIT: I just read your post above - yes, the third symbol setting gives you the clue from the machine, not the telescope...

WHAT am I doing wrong. I set the coordinates for the left rear control panel with the symbols that were on the tram midway post. I have pushed the flashing green light and not pushed it. The same thing happens every time. I put the Advanced Time symbol on the slate drop it and the Bahro picks it up. He does not raise his hands to cause a blinding light. It worked a couple of times and now it wont work at all. It should because I go back to a previous save before.

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Dutch

May happiness come on secret winds and surround you forever in the ways of beauty. An American Indian Blessing.

There was also a symbol of the planet with the Saturn-like rings on that tram post. You have to get the rings of the planet in the sky to match the orientation that was on that tram post symbol. This is done by executing the "advanced time" symbol. After you get the orientation right on the rings, then you can go to the back left telescope setting machine in the Red room and set the coordinates, press the green button once. THEN, you have to zoom in on the "view" using the little buttons on the upper right of the "view" screen on that machine.

I was putting the slate down in the wrong place. Now I am in the red control room. I zoomed in on the 4th icon circles within circles backed away from the control panel drew the circles on the slate dropped it. Bahro picked it up I went to the 1st pedestal and nothing happens. I hear a roar but no icon appears.I have waited for as much as 2 minutes without results. Is the first pedestal at the control room pillar am I in the wrong place?

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Dutch

May happiness come on secret winds and surround you forever in the ways of beauty. An American Indian Blessing.

If the symbol does not appear on pedestal #1 (less than 30 seconds) it means the Bahro doesn't recognize your symbol. Yes, the correct pedestal to check is the one outside and to the right a few stairs from the red room. The mouse drawing tool is a bit awkward to work with (all of my circkes look a little square). But, if you slip, just hit that little erase button and start again. Only one of my drawing attempts have failed to get the Bahro to recognize it, so it helps to be accurate.

For this symbol, make sure you have the circle on the outer ring off to the 1:00 position (not right on top) and make sure the line doesn't go through the outer circle.

Just an aside here...the rings never moved on the planet until I went back to the third pedestal once. I used the "memorized" symbol on the slate every time, so it wasn't a question of poor slate drawing. After that they moved wherever I placed the slate until they matched the hint. Very strange, but sure made finishing the age easier once they moved!!!

Just in case someone else has this problem, I suggest moving on to another age then returning later.

Where is everyone's favorite place to stand and watch the time advance symbol operate? I've tried a few locations.. one good one is near the first pedestal, on top of the first set of stairs. Next I'm going to try running back right up to the top of that first pillar and watch it from that vantage point! I love watching that huge blue moon/satellite with the rings heel slowly over!

Is anyone else overthinking things a little? I had drawn a lovely colour coded map from the picture in the cable car building and wandered around for ages trying to identify everything and decide which code went with which control. Then I took another look at those nice BIG circles by the controls. Ooooh, I see.