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Yeah well, that happens when you don't advertise your product whatsoever.
Starchild got no one to blame but themselves.

Starchild, Media-factory and whatever shit producers are, should stop doing animation producing. Their marketing is just bad as fuck. They are just trying to get randomly chosen original content butchered with their shit budget.

BTW Bake Blu-ray box is number 1 on Amazon. More money for Shaft. I think with this the average sales for Bake is going to go over 100k for each volume.

Well that was always going to happen, with the increase in Bluray market penetration there's a high chance a lot of people who bought the Bake DVDs have upgraded to Bluray in the last two years. Than you have the people who want to buy Bake now but can't since volumes are out of stock, you have people who wait for box sets and finally the people who just want to collect everything.

And it comes out just before the sequel so people who just got into anime in the last 18 months will see the massive hype for Nise and than have a great starting point to jump into with a Box Set.

Will be interesting to see if it can challenge the sales figures of the Haruhi BD Box set, though with Haruhi that was the first time you could see it in Bluray quality.

I finally got the chance to watch that Nico special live, so here's a short summary of what I found interesting (of the stuff I understood, anyway). I've tried to leave out spoilers for Kizu or Nise, but just in case, I'll leave it under a tag.

Opening narration (Araragi):

'Kaii' make up our world, so unlike living things, they are connected to the world. You can't shine a light on 'kaii' with the tools of science alone. Just as human that has been attacked by a vampire will continue existing forever, even if there is no darkness in this world that cannot be illuminated, there will always be darkness.

Spoiler for just in case:

MC: Yoshida Hisanori (NB: he also hosted the WORKING!! Great Summer Thanksgiving) and co-host...Oshino Shinobu (er...she was responsible for the character-design pics, I think).

Yoshida notes that Kamiya is currently the most enviable guy in the vicinity.

When Chiwa Chiwa is talking about whether Hitagi is a "tsundere" or "tundra", she notes instead that what she remembers most is "Senjogahara-tore", and nico viewers promptly showed their approval with "tore tore tore tore" in the comments, intersped with "tundra" and the occasional "stapler" (Chiwa: that's a wonderful item too)

When Katou Emiri is talking, the comments go along the lines of "why aren't you biting your tongue?", to which she comments "I won't bite it" (almost doing so in the process!)

Kana-chan notes that she feels really nervous, like she's attending an interview. (Yoshida calls her an angel (天使ちゃんマジ天使, i.e. AB ^^) and she's like "that's got nothing to do with this!"

For Hocchan, the nya tongue twister and all the nyas are one of the two things she remembers most about Hanekawa.

Then they changed the 'setting' of the room to the park surround by apartments (Mayoi Snail arc), i.e. it was projected onto the walls - it looks really cool. Hocchan exclaims "I love multi-flat apartments!" and the nico commentators kept repeating it straight away, leading Yoshida to "it's not a fetish for multi-flat apartments, is it?" No, they were just really impressive (Kamiya).

Hitagi's opening song - Chiwa Chiwa was told to "make it cuter". Since they hadn't really started recording, she was wondering why because she only know of the Hitagi in the earlier episodes - so you can think of the song as being sung by Hitagi after she'd changed.

Miyukichi had a lot of fun with Kanbaru's lines, because she thought that it'd probably be the first and last time she could say things like "girls also have an interest in sex" and "Araragi-sempai's sex slave" (she was like, "what? 'sex slave'?!" ).

And...the Kizumonogatari part starts...but Yoshida doesn't have anything that he's meant to say as MC! Why? Because Sakurai enters here to the great surprise of the rest of the cast (and Yoshida too it seems? It wasn't scheduled because he wasn't sure he'd be able to make it). Kamiya, in particular, turns around and

(And all the comments on this nico video are like: 'LOL', Kamiya looks like he feels a lot more at home now that Sakurai's here! )

They played the Kizu PV...and the reactions in the room were divided between applause and...cringing. And the nico comments were all about "spatter"...

For most of the seiyuu, this was the first time they'd seen anything from Kizu. Only Kamiya, who'd been asked to record for Araragi the previous week, knew a little - though all he was told was "breathe heavily, as if Koyomi is really really tense and frightened"

The Nisemonogatari announcement is next. (And nico viewers go nuts)

Obviously, this is where KitaEri and Iguchi Yuka enter, with their trademark (I'm Karen! And I'm Tsukihi!).

They show all the characters' new looks, and the cast/audience is meant to try guessing who they are - Mayoi alone hasn't changed! And when Kanbaru comes out, someone exclaims "her butt (is showing)!". Miyukichi identifies her, saying "Araragi-sempai's sex slave", to which Kamiya goes "you don't have to say that!". She also mentions that she's glad that Kanbaru's wearing something at least... Nadeko's new appearance (e.g. the fact that she's not using her hat or hiding behind her bangs) is also linked with how her character has changed... Same with Hanekawa.

There are no new designs for the guys (well, Meme doesn't even appear in Nise, right?) but Kamiya says that he feels pained on Koyomi's behalf that Hanekawa in particular has changed her hairstyle. On the other hand, Sakurai thinks they all look good, and that really, their characters probably haven't changed all that much. Meme was the first character he's played who's actually around his real age, so Sakku quite likes him, and really wanted to see what he'd look like for Kizu.

It finishes with some closing comments, e.g.

Kamiya: Half of me is cheering, the other half is like "oh god"

Chiwa Chiwa uses "tore" again, sending the net viewers crazy (NB: you can see the comments, which have been beamed around the room, and it's filled with "8888888888888888888888" "Chiwa-chan!" "Amazing!" etc at this point) though the reporters in the room are diligently taking notes.

Katou Emiri is looking forward to recording more conversations with Araragi.

KitaEri and Iguchi Yuka play off each other again - though they note that they can't really go beyond one or two lines each without the script (lots of wwwwwwwwww from viewers)

Also, by the end, over 340,000 people had tried to watch it on nico.

__________________

You must free yourself from that illusion,
from the illusion that a story must have a beginning and an end.

"No, you are not entitled to your opinion... You are only entitled to what you can argue for.”
- Patrick Stokes

I finally got the chance to watch that Nico special live, so here's a short summary of what I found interesting (of the stuff I understood, anyway). I've tried to leave out spoilers for Kizu or Nise, but just in case, I'll leave it under a tag anyway.

Opening narration (Araragi):

'Kaii' make up our world, so unlike living things, they are connected to the world. You can't shine a light on 'kaii' with the tools of science alone. Just as human that has been attacked by a vampire will continue existing forever, even if there is no darkness in this world that cannot be illuminated, there will always be darkness.

Spoiler for just in case:

MC: Yoshida Hisanori (NB: he also hosted the WORKING!! Great Summer Thanksgiving) and co-host...Oshino Shinobu (er...she was responsible for the character-design pics, I think).

Yoshida notes that Kamiya is currently the most enviable guy in the vicinity.

When Chiwa Chiwa is talking about whether Hitagi is a "tsundere" or "tundra", she notes instead that what she remembers most is "Senjogahara-tore", and nico viewers promptly showed their approval with "tore tore tore tore" in the comments, intersped with "tundra" and the occasional "stapler" (Chiwa: that's a wonderful item too)

When Katou Emiri is talking, the comments go along the lines of "why aren't you stuttering?", to which she comments "I won't stutter" (almost stuttering in the process!)

Kana-chan notes that she feels really nervous, like she's attending an interview. (Yoshida calls her an angel (天使ちゃんマジ天使, i.e. AB ^^) and she's like "that's got nothing to do with this!"

For Hocchan, the nya tongue twister and all the nyas are one of the two things she remembers most about Hanekawa.

Then they changed the 'setting' of the room to the park surround by apartments (Mayoi Snail arc), i.e. it was projected onto the walls - it looks really cool. Hocchan explains "I love multi-flat apartments!" and the nico commentators keep repeating it immediately, leading Yoshida to "it's not a fetish for multi-flat apartments, is it?" No, they were just really impressive (Kamiya).

Hitagi's opening song - Chiwa Chiwa was told to "make it cuter". Since they hadn't really started recording, she was wondering why because she only know of the Hitagi in the earlier episodes - so you can think of the song as being sung by Hitagi after she'd changed.

Miyukichi had a lot of fun with Kanbaru's lines, because she thought that it'd probably be the first and last time she could say things like "girls also have an interest in sex" and "Araragi-sempai's sex slave" (she was like, "what? 'sex slave'?!" ).

And...the Kizumonogatari part starts...but Yoshida doesn't have anything that he's meant to say as MC! Why? Because Sakurai enters here to the great surprise of the rest of the cast (and Yoshida too it seems? It wasn't scheduled because he wasn't sure he'd be able to make it). Kamiya, in particular, turns around and

(And all the comments on this nico video are like: 'LOL', Kamiya looks like he feels a lot more at home now that Sakurai's here! )

They play the Kizu PV...and the reactions in the room are divided between applause and...cringing. And the nico comments are all about "spatter"...

For most of the seiyuu, this was the first time they'd seen anything from Kizu. Only Kamiya, who'd been asked to record for Araragi the previous week, knew a little - though all he was told was "breathe heavily, as if Koyomi is really really tense and frightened"

The Nisemonogatari announcement is next. (And nico viewers go nuts)

Obviously, this is where KitaEri and Iguchi Yuka enter, with their trademark (I'm Karen! And I'm Tsukihi!).

They show all the character's new looks, and the cast/audience is meant to try guessing who they are - Mayoi alone hasn't changed! And when Kanbaru comes out, someone exclaims "her butt!". Miyukichi identifies her, saying "Araragi-sempai's sex slave", to which Kamiya goes "you don't have to say that!". She also mentions that she's glad that Kanbaru's wearing something at least... Nadeko's new appearance (e.g. the fact that she's not using her hat or hiding behind her bangs) is also linked with how her character has changed... Same with Hanekawa.

There's no new designs for the guys (well, Meme doesn't even appear in Nise, right?) but Kamiya says that he feels pained on Koyomi's behalf that Hanekawa in particular has changed her hairstyle. On the other hand, Sakurai thinks they all look good, and that really, their characters probably haven't changed all that much. Meme was the first character he's played who's actually around his real age, so Sakku quite likes him, and really wanted to see what he'd look like for Kizu.

It finishes with some closing comments, e.g.

Kamiya: Half of me is cheering, the other half is like "oh god"

Chiwa Chiwa uses "tore" again, sending the net viewers crazy (NB: you can see the comments, which have been beamed around the room, and it's filled with "8888888888888888888888" "Chiwa-chan!" "Amazing!" etc at this point) though the reporters in the room are diligently taking notes.

Katou Emiri is looking forward to recording more conversations with Araragi.

KitaEri and Iguchi Yuka play off each other again - though they note that they can't really go beyond one or two lines each without the script (lots of wwwwwwwwww from viewers)

Also, by the end, over 340,000 people had tried to watch it on nico.

It'll be nice if someone translated the whole thing especially Hanazawa's stuff since I find her really cute.

That's not rare at all in the anime industry. What makes Shaft Shaft is that they often try to produce an episode in three days.

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Are you going to say "budget"? Wait! Is your point really related to budget? Isn't it time or style?
Simply put, production time is consistency, and budget is framerate.
Even poor animation is costlier than a high-quality still shot.

Reading Karice's summary of the event was a real treat. Anywhere that I can watch it?

If you have a nico account, first half (sm15618435) and second half (sm15618528). Sorry for those without one, I haven't found it elsewhere...but there are guides for nicodouga registration around

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Originally Posted by omimon

It'll be nice if someone translated the whole thing especially Hanazawa's stuff since I find her really cute.

...greedy, aren't we? I'm sure it'll all be subbed in Chinese at some stage, you know...

Well, she was pretty cute. Left me wondering though, why she's seems so different in events to how she is on radio (she's known for being a sadist!)

I did figure out one more bit for Kana-chan, when they're talking about the theme songs (and perhaps, the sadist part is touched upon...)

Yoshida: Rather than bright and happy - I mean, in the way that Mayoi is bright and happy - Nadeko really has the heart of a young girl in love. Kana-chan: Yes, I feel that way too. I think that meg rock's lyrics are really...really...good. (She says this rather hesitantly, and the other cast members are like ) And the word play is really fun, and the tune is really cute too. Also, it's like a rap, right? Yoshida: Yes-Kana-chan: I really had to think about how to do that.Yoshida: Really had to think....Somehow, when I look at Hanazawa-san, I get the feeling that you're doing a "this company version"Kana-chan: I have no idea what you mean. (said pretty forcefully)Yoshida: Really? Are you sure? For one second, your character seems to have changed completely you know.
(laughter)Yoshida: Well, Nadeko really is cute and endearing because she tries her best, but being attacked and constrained by the snake must have been really tough. Kana-chan: When I was voicing Nadeko, I was always thinking that she must have hated it, being constrained like that, and that it must have been so painful; wondering if she'd stumble and so on. That's really pitiful, isn't it? Yoshida: Here, I'd like to ask Kamiya-san, who was in the same studio, what his impression was. As a reporter, what would you say?Kamiya: She was really cute.
(laughter)Kana-chan: what is that!?
(nico erupts: wwwwwwwww)Kamiya: It's not sexual harassment! From a work pov!
(nico: Kamiya, don't harass Kana-chan!) Yoshida: That's right. He saved you in the end after all, right? Kamiya: I'm being serious when I say she was really cute. Yoshida: So the official comment is "seriously, she was cute". Thank you very much.

__________________

You must free yourself from that illusion,
from the illusion that a story must have a beginning and an end.

"No, you are not entitled to your opinion... You are only entitled to what you can argue for.”
- Patrick Stokes

Glad a few of you are enjoying it. I really wish this old event had been recorded too, e.g. for a DVD extra, but it doesn't like like it was...

Quote:

Originally Posted by omimon

^Sadist? I've never heard of that. Then again I don't think I've ever heard her on radio shows.

I was pretty surprised myself when I first read about it on a blog about seiyuu raji. (In the first OreImo raji episode, a listener wrote commenting that she (Kuroneko) and Taketatsu Ayana (Kirino) should be fun to listen to because the latter was 'rather M' whilst the former was 'S'.) I haven't listened to much of her radio myself, but based on that blog's summaries, the 'S' label seems to be pretty accurate...

Really belies the angelic characters she tends to portray...not to mention the cute image she's projected of Nadeko so far, whether in character (the commentaries) or out of it (the atogatari)...

p.s. did anyone see the NishioxDRRR!!ED parody? (nico: sm10157775)

__________________

You must free yourself from that illusion,
from the illusion that a story must have a beginning and an end.

"No, you are not entitled to your opinion... You are only entitled to what you can argue for.”
- Patrick Stokes