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Hey Jon, If I read the OP's location correctly, I think he might be local to me. Just say the word and we can have the Sacramento chapter look up our young friend and "[Guido voice on]'splain a few things to im"[Guido voice off].

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When it absolutely, positively, has to be destroyed overnight! OohRaah!!!

I came late last year and squeezed through the back gate, but this year there were people at both gates.

$20??? for 1600 cars is $32,000 where is that money going? I heard if you bought raffle tickets that money was going to the low income people in Santa Barbara which is ironic since SB is one of the most expensive places to live in the nation so I didn't even stick around for the raffle. With all the raffle tickets too, I bet there was a gross income of over $50,000.

Last time I checked at fairs and stuff the food places had to rent out a spot to have their food booth, I'm thinking that the vendors pay to have a spot too, and the only cost would be the Bimmerfest personnel $10/hr probably 10 of them for a total of 10 hrs, that's only $1000. And the cost to rent out the fairgrounds can't be over $10000.

I don't work hard so that poor people can work less and receive free money.

This might be the last year I support this event.

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Originally Posted by lucky579

so what are the expenses?

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Originally Posted by lucky579

If 1600 people gave me $20 and one was curious as to how the money was being spent I would provide it. Think about businesses, if you say this is Jon's job then I suppose this is his business and if we are contributing, or "compensating" for his hard work then that in a way makes us like shareholders in which we are entitled to the financial information.

So if Jon needs to be compensated for this event, why are we donating money to charity? You don't get rich throwing your money away. Maybe I'm an asshole but I would never give money to the poor/charity. I believe in natural selection and the fittest with survive.
Why not lower the price to $10 and not donate to charity.

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Originally Posted by lucky579

why not have a donation box since all you guys love giving your money away.

edit: what does the $20/car pay for then? How much does it cost to rent out the fairgrounds all said and done? Do sponsors have to pay for a booth? Do the places that provided food, do they have to rent out a place?

Dude im sorry but you're an idiot. Im done trying to stick up for you. You embarrass me.

Wow!! Honestly, I didn't even remember paying the $20 bucks, it was that awesome. Bitching about charity and $20 bucks, wow!!! Dude, did you notice how much the gas is that you're putting in your BMW

Werd!!!

I spent $50 before I got to the gate, $20 at the gate, and then $220 on stuff while I was there. I was more into meeting all the people and seeing the cars than anything. The "tech talk" by Steve Dinan, being able to talk to VF and Active Autowerks engineers directly, meeting people and just feeling like I was among people with a similar passion was worth it.

Bimmerfest is a car show, not a nonprofit venture. As a way for us to give something back (all of us) since we are fortunate enough to be driving expensive Ultimate Driving Machines, a couple of years ago (Bimmerfest IV in 2003) I asked our sponsors to donate products so that we could hold an "Opportunity Drawing" so that we could donate some money to a local charity. That little piece of Bimmerfest gave us all a warm and fuzzy feeling, so I decided to continue that tradition, picking a new charity every year. Three (count them, 3) people devoted the better part of a year to put this event on (forget all of the years developing the event without remuneration), and the profit from the event at least helps us pay our bills, but not much more. So you see, your assumptions were all wrong. Have no fear. Unless you actually purchased a ticket for the Opportunity Drawing, you did not make a donation to charity.

Lastly, this is my job and business. Since when did I make you a shareholder? You believe I have an obligation to provide my financials? Why don't you drive to your local BMW dealer and demand to see his while you are at it?

Jon - Why are you trying to reason with this :idiot:? He's pissed off that he couldn't sneak in again like last year.

He says he believes in selection of the fittest. Well, all I can say to this little cretin is - get ready to meet your maker. If your genes get perpetuated humanity is in deep sh!t. Lucky579 - why don't you go out and see if you can sneak in the back door of the local theater, or get some gas at the gas station and then run off without paying, or steal some cheap booze off the shelves at the local 7-11. And, if you get caught and are forced to pay, call everyone a sucker and demand to see the books.

The OP is a tool, this is obvious. I do have a logistics question, though... The Fairgrounds are publicly owned? So fees are paid to the state? Are you required to bring your own liability insurance, or otherwise purchase it through state sanctioned provider?

I guess I never thought about where the entry fee would go.... I assumed that after costs it was zero-sum. (keep in mind I went to med school because business was NOT a forte'). It is actually nice to know Jon sees a little sumthin for his (and others') efforts. It's not like we're gettin together in the parking lot at the mall....

I came late last year and squeezed through the back gate, but this year there were people at both gates.

$20??? for 1600 cars is $32,000 where is that money going? I heard if you bought raffle tickets that money was going to the low income people in Santa Barbara which is ironic since SB is one of the most expensive places to live in the nation so I didn't even stick around for the raffle. With all the raffle tickets too, I bet there was a gross income of over $50,000.

Last time I checked at fairs and stuff the food places had to rent out a spot to have their food booth, I'm thinking that the vendors pay to have a spot too, and the only cost would be the Bimmerfest personnel $10/hr probably 10 of them for a total of 10 hrs, that's only $1000. And the cost to rent out the fairgrounds can't be over $10000.

I don't work hard so that poor people can work less and receive free money.

This might be the last year I support this event.

What can I say ............. You are a loser....... Give me your address and I'll mail you the $20.00, then ....................... GO AWAY!!! We don't need you at the events anyway. LOSERS LIKE THIS AREN'T WELCOME!!

i dont post much on this board but i had a good time there it was my first but when i paid 20 buck to get in and i got there at 9:45 and had to park by the stables i was a little pissed off when the folks by that back gate only paid 8 bucks to get in and even worse my 740 il was covered with a inch of dirt but it will not stop me from going next year it was a great event

i dont post much on this board but i had a good time there it was my first but when i paid 20 buck to get in and i got there at 9:45 and had to park by the stables i was a little pissed off when the folks by that back gate only paid 8 bucks to get in and even worse my 740 il was covered with a inch of dirt but it will not stop me from going next year it was a great event [/IMG]