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I would think the smaller the pup or younger the pup the lower you would have to keep the stims. I mean you wouldn't want to go full stim on a young dog like that. So is there any research or expert advice on the max stims on a young dog like the OP's?

I recommend that you wait until a dog is at least six months old before using an Ecollar on him. My methods use the lowest level of stim that the dog can feel for all the basic work.

I know of no such research but would like to hear about it if you find any. You will however, find all sorts of scare material if you look for it.

05-12-2014 06:54 PM

Baillif

Send me a pm and I'd be happy to talk with you about it.

05-12-2014 06:27 PM

jafo220

Question regarding e-collars and puppies.

I would think the smaller the pup or younger the pup the lower you would have to keep the stims. I mean you wouldn't want to go full stim on a young dog like that. So is there any research or expert advice on the max stims on a young dog like the OP's?

05-12-2014 05:21 PM

Chip18

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Originally Posted by sabledog3

I would keep working on the long line until he's a year and a half old. That's usually when i start trusting the pups to be reliable off leash. They need a good solid foundation first.

Also, don't feel bad, he doesn't have a poor quality of life bc he's not off lead. I have the same situation as you, no fenced back yard and working toward off lead. Honestly I put my boy on a 6ft lead when we trail ride and he can keep up with us at walk trot and canter.

Year and a half sounds a little longish to me but yes I use a long line until a dog has a reliable recall.

You need to "know" your dog first. ANd even then decide if it's "you" or the dog that has a problem.

05-12-2014 03:37 PM

lokimonster

Thanks guys! I guess I'll take plenty of time and research for sure before I decide if this is something I want to try... for sure don't want to end up causing more harm than good.

I feel like it might be a good tool in the future for bringing him on trail rides with me as I don't know if I would feel comfortable with holding a leash on my dog while riding (on the rare occasions that my horse startles, he usually jumps sideways suddenly and without warning and I don't want my dog close enough to get squashed lol) and I would like having some kind of extra safety net as I will be up on my horse not able to reach him
I did just find out about a very large dog park/field in my area that is rarely used on week days where he can run wild and free to his hearts content... so im going to check that out today!

05-11-2014 08:41 AM

sabledog3

I would keep working on the long line until he's a year and a half old. That's usually when i start trusting the pups to be reliable off leash. They need a good solid foundation first.

Also, don't feel bad, he doesn't have a poor quality of life bc he's not off lead. I have the same situation as you, no fenced back yard and working toward off lead. Honestly I put my boy on a 6ft lead when we trail ride and he can keep up with us at walk trot and canter.

05-11-2014 02:36 AM

simba405

I'd do if it you're using it as a back up but you better make darn sure he knows the reason he's getting stimmed. If he's far from you and he gets stimmed he can develop all kinds of superstitious behavior (like getting close to a horse gets me shocked)

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