How can I be a fan boy if I'm not hating on Pro Evolution or even claiming that they attempt to steal from Fifa. I played Pro Evolution 12 with my cousin and the game was enjoyable - I still feel as if Fifa 12 was better. It's also funny because you're speaking as if Fifa made a huge jump from Fifa 12 to Fifa 13, that is not the case. I can't take your opinion serious if you're going to tell me both Fifa and Pro Evolution are exactly the same.

I've won't speak on the flaws of Pro Evolution as I don't play enough, but I have already spoken on the flaws of Fifa (if not on this forum, with people in my life).

Maybe you're referring to a specific year where Fifa changed their controls to match Pro Evolution, but ever since I can remember Fifa has had these controls and allowed you the option to customize them. In Fifa you use the LT to control the ball, I believe it is the RT in Pro Evolution Soccer 13. Also, I can switch players with my right stick in Fifa, not sure if that's the case in Pro Evolution. The dribbling systems are also completely different. Does Pro Evolution Soccer have a standing tackle button (I can't recall if they do) - Fifa incorporated that in Fifa 12.

Perhaps I misunderstood what you meant, but those controls I posted are different and to be honest with you, there are only so many different button options you can have on a controller.

mat go to team m8t defending fifa 12 , and team m8t defending fifa 13 , look at the defending lets say for example team m8t defending was huge in fifa 12 but it went to be not so useful in fifa 13 and it was exactly the same at pes 12

I've played Pro Evolution 12 and Fifa 13, they are not the same in my opinion. Also, Fifa 12 and Fifa 13 are not that different aside from the whole first touch thing. I understand what you're saying, I just don't see how you can feel the way that you do.

Epoto wrote:mat go to team m8t defending fifa 12 , and team m8t defending fifa 13 , look at the defending lets say for example team m8t defending was huge in fifa 12 but it went to be not so useful in fifa 13 and it was exactly the same at pes 12

I find teammate defending to be the same as it always has been. I think we're living on different universes; I hope you're able to find a way back home.

Just so we're clear, what do you mean when you say that Pro Evolution Soccer 12 and Fifa 13 are the same: gameplay wise? controller wise?

THC 10 wrote:How can I be a fan boy if I'm not hating on Pro Evolution or even claiming that they attempt to steal from Fifa. I played Pro Evolution 12 with my cousin and the game was enjoyable - I still feel as if Fifa 12 was better. It's also funny because you're speaking as if Fifa made a huge jump from Fifa 12 to Fifa 13, that is not the case. I can't take your opinion serious if you're going to tell me both Fifa and Pro Evolution are exactly the same.

I've won't speak on the flaws of Pro Evolution as I don't play enough, but I have already spoken on the flaws of Fifa (if not on this forum, with people in my life).

Just so we're clear, that fan boy comment wasn't directed at you.

Was the fanboy comment directed at me? Just wondering.

Also, I agree with THC that Fifa 13 is not a copy of Pes 2012, this is based on my experience in the Pes franchise. However, I believe that Fifa has many major flaws which are shadowed by the various menus that Ea offers. There is a reason why scores in Fifa are usually high.

On topic, when are you guys going to sell your teams? The prices are already dropping, also I can't wait for a January El Shaarawy upgrade, and fingers crossed that both Niang and De Sciglio will be in UT.

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THC 10 wrote:Yes, it was and I hope you don't take it as serious as Epoto did, we're just discussing a video game.

Just to make things clear, I wasn't the one that said that Fifa are copy cats. I am only basing my judgement of Fifa from what I have seen. Although, I have only owned Fifa 07, 12, and 13, I have also played 10 and 11 with my friends regularly. I have found that people are more attracted to an open game with a good engine that enables people to achieve a high number of goals per match, than a game which is advanced tactically and mirrors real movements by players.

Fifa is funny, man, I'll give you guys that. I would consider my close friend a Fifa fan boy because he refuses to give Pro Evolution a proper chance. Fifa doesn't reward the beautiful game and so many of the goals come from nonsense (I'm beginning to ask myself when enough is enough), but Pro Evolution doesn't offer Clubs and I would like to have a few buddies that actually own the game. I was very impressed with the jump Pro Evolution made from 12 to 13 and I will seriously consider picking up 14.

I have 4 teams and about 75,00 coins - I'm just not playing much these days (had all 4 wisdom teeth pulled in the span on 4 weeks), but my friend and I have been playing each other in Ultimate team. We are getting sick on the bullish goals that continue to get scored in seasons (not sure why Ultimate team seems to give us less issues). Have any of you realized the ref is always biased? He hate me and my friend and if I'm playing my friend, the ref favors me (it's been that way since Fifa 08 - I'M NOT EVEN JOKING).

(Me playing the Pro Evolution demo)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBC2ZBQ3Ddc

Once I learn the dribbling, I will take over Pro Evolution. Also, are you able to pull off caps (chapéu) in Pro Evolution? I love that feature in Fifa. If you haven't noticed I love to play the beautiful game!

THC 10 wrote:How can I be a fan boy if I'm not hating on Pro Evolution or even claiming that they attempt to steal from Fifa. I played Pro Evolution 12 with my cousin and the game was enjoyable - I still feel as if Fifa 12 was better. It's also funny because you're speaking as if Fifa made a huge jump from Fifa 12 to Fifa 13, that is not the case. I can't take your opinion serious if you're going to tell me both Fifa and Pro Evolution are exactly the same.

I've won't speak on the flaws of Pro Evolution as I don't play enough, but I have already spoken on the flaws of Fifa (if not on this forum, with people in my life).

Just so we're clear, that fan boy comment wasn't directed at you.

Was the fanboy comment directed at me? Just wondering.

Also, I agree with THC that Fifa 13 is not a copy of Pes 2012, this is based on my experience in the Pes franchise. However, I believe that Fifa has many major flaws which are shadowed by the various menus that Ea offers. There is a reason why scores in Fifa are usually high.

On topic, when are you guys going to sell your teams? The prices are already dropping, also I can't wait for a January El Shaarawy upgrade, and fingers crossed that both Niang and De Sciglio will be in UT.

just let the dude be alone im talking same strategy of defending fifa likes to say that more intelligence in attacking that let players run into space and make better runs so when you call your other defender you more likely get punished , im talking about the similarity in two games , he talks about his experience, i generally dont like to make fun of people but that's a joke

THC 10 wrote:Fifa is funny, man, I'll give you guys that. I would consider my close friend a Fifa fan boy because he refuses to give Pro Evolution a proper chance. Fifa doesn't reward the beautiful game and so many of the goals come from nonsense (I'm beginning to ask myself when enough is enough), but Pro Evolution doesn't offer Clubs and I would like to have a few buddies that actually own the game. I was very impressed with the jump Pro Evolution made from 12 to 13 and I will seriously consider picking up 14.

I have 4 teams and about 75,00 coins - I'm just not playing much these days (had all 4 wisdom teeth pulled in the span on 4 weeks), but my friend and I have been playing each other in Ultimate team. We are getting sick on the bullish goals that continue to get scored in seasons (not sure why Ultimate team seems to give us less issues). Have any of you realized the ref is always biased? He hate me and my friend and if I'm playing my friend, the ref favors me (it's been that way since Fifa 08 - I'M NOT EVEN JOKING).

(Me playing the Pro Evolution demo)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBC2ZBQ3Ddc

Once I learn the dribbling, I will take over Pro Evolution. Also, are you able to pull off caps (chapéu) in Pro Evolution? I love that feature in Fifa. If you haven't noticed I love to play the beautiful game!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31XPPixrtIA

Having 4 teams and 75K is really good. The refs do seem biased at times but I only consider it as luck, for example my brother and I were playing today and puyol tackled robinho from the back (did not touch the ball at all), yet he did not receive any cards. It happens even in PES, the problem with Pes is that the ref does not book a player after an advantage.

P.S. Pes might have the kojima game engine next year, if implemented correctly it would put it far beyond Fifa. If you haven't seen Kojima's game engine, I suggest you do so now since its the same game engine being used for the new metal gear solid.

I got contracts and fitness cards out the butthole.So I sell them each for about 250-500 a piece .

Demand is high.

So I have once I earn about 3000-4000 for those out of my own saved up coins I spend some on happy hours and get a jumbo pack normally ending up with some good players ( I got Pedro LW 4-3-3) probably sells for above 3000. More fitness and contracts etc and some formations etc