Saturday, January 06, 2007

The case of Simon Mol will become a cause celebre for racists everywhere.

Simon Mol has tested positive for HIV. In itself this is distressing. There are at least four girls who have also tested positive for HIV – with what they are calling an ‘African’ strain of the disease.

But the issue is not whether Simon has HIV – it’s about what Mol’s motives were when having sex with the girls. Polish Radio reports:

Polish Police are looking for women who have had sexual contact with the Cameroonian refugee, poet and journalist Simon Moleke [his proper name], who has been charged and arrested for intentionally infecting women with the HIV virus.

The implication is that Mol knew he had HIV and has been going around Warsaw, not just casually and carelessly having unprotected sex with girls, but trying to give women a potentially deadly disease!

That is an amazing claim and one I don’t know how the police substantiate.

Whatever – the case is taking on a political character. Even in the Polish Radio report, politics creeps in:

The case has surfaced only recently, but as records on the internet forum of the Green Party website show, the intentional spreading of HIV by Moleke might have been known to the leftist activist circles as early as over half a year ago.

I imagine the writer of that report means a post dated June 28, 2006 on the forum of zieloni.org.pl (the Green party web site) warning that Mol was ‘spreading HIV’ around Warsaw.

Mol has connections to the Green Party in Poland.

June, remember, was the month when the claims (in fact, exactly the same text on exactly the same day) that he was deliberately spreading HIV first emerged online at poezja.org , a supposedly cultured web site in Poland for poetry lovers.

In fact, it was someone called ‘ppp’ who posted both warnings (see comments in previous post). So the readers of a poetry web site plus Green Party forum readers knew about this. But they were not trying to keep it a secret. That's why they put this message online.

Racists lick their lips

The crude racism that has been appearing on these web sites (and there has been some nasty stuff) is nothing to remarks made on an international white supremacist web site with the jolly title Pan Aryan National Front.

If the ramblings of racist morons makes you physically sick then don’t read this next bit. Under aliases such as LR Eichmann (naturally) our charming racists comment:

….A gift of multiracialism... HIV, AIDS, sexual diseases, rapes, without forgotting [sic] more steals, more homicides, etc.... Why do even the white girls from Poland believe niggers are good persons?

…….kill him, and send those girls with that mind to the nuns!....or better butcher the nigger…

……Poor white girls.... but they were FUCKING STUPID. Sleep with the dog and wake up with fleas!

And so on, literally ad nauseam.

Mol has a high profile in the Polish media. He is Poland’s ‘celebrity refugee’. Whatever the outcome of this case, racists are going to use it for their own destructive ends.

More?I am sure poezja.org had a forum about this. But now that forum thread has suddenly disappeared. Why?

173 comments:

geez
said...

BR, in your first article on this matter, you noted that Simon M. seems to have acknowledged in February 2006 that he was aware of accusations that he was HIV positive. That's considerably earlier than June of 2006, the date to which you aver in your most recent commentary.

And there're at least four women who have recently charged him with lying to them when they confronted him after they tested HIV positive?

And he was having a year long steady relationship with some women while he was indulging in one night stands with multiple partners (and being knowingly indulged by his steady girlfriend???) apparently without using condoms all the while?

GeezJune was when someone first posted something online warning girls about Mol. But five months before that Mol had written on his web site about 'character assasination' etc and about how the parents of a previous girlfriend had made her have an HIV test.

So no controdiction there, Heez. June is when the accusations first came on line. Mol, though, was obviously aware of the rumours before that.

"Mol has a high profile in the Polish media. He is Poland’s ‘celebrity refugee’."

If he was indulging in random one night stands while involved in a steady relationship while ignoring rumors he was HIV positive then he is a f*cking moron who will lose anything like sympathy from me.

You put yourself in the spotlight you need to keep your house in order. Period.

In December last year there was an article in the German news magazine "Der Spiegel" about a trial against a 38 year old African who was accused to have slept with several young women although he knew he was HIV positive. He infected some of them.

His motive was supposed to be revenge and he also had sex with lots of young women.

For those who understand German: http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/0,1518,456067,00.html

Beatroot:When you know your are HIV positive and:(1) Do not reveal your HIV status to a potential partner;(2) Do not use proper protection during intercourse after the informed partner consented to having sex (but why would they consent?);(3) Transmit the disease...then you commit a crime. I do not think it is merely attempted murder (for this 1-2 will do). After all, HIV inevitably leads to AIDS and then to death. And please let’s stop the mantra that ‘he was having sex in order to infect as many women as possible’ – this is pure nonsense used deliberately to ridicule the whole matter. SM simply wanted the ‘skin-skin’ sex. Lots of it. But you cannot get it if you advertise your HIV+ status, right? The infected women were simply collateral damage. I will not be surprised if within the next few days it transpires that SM has known his true HIV status for a long time (old positive tests, HIV medication, conversations with family or friends). Just imagine, if the ‘anti-fascist of 2003’ is capable of this, what the Polish public will think of all the runners up ;-)

No, no, no…there are cocktails of drugs now that mean HIV does not defiantly mean AIDS and AIDS does not necessarily mean death. The science has moved on quickly…

And please let’s stop the mantra that ‘he was having sex in order to infect as many women as possible’ – this is pure nonsense used deliberately to ridicule the whole matter.

Eh? Simon Moleke [his proper name], who has been charged and arrested for intentionally infecting women with the HIV virus.

I didn’t write that. That is the impression which people are getting.

There is an important difference: someone driving his car at top speed, drunk, and killing someone by his recklessness (which is criminal) is qualitatively different from someone who intentionally drives his car into a crowd of people waiting for a bus. And I think his well developed 'victim' mentality had convinced him that every claim of HIV was racism.

As I say, a fucking bastard, but how much of that was criminal in an intentional sense is not obvious...

Under these circumstances there is the potential for unstable behaviours. Well lets say you just got the death sentence which is to be carried out at an unspecified future date (a diagnosis of AIDs), you decide to go out the door fucking your brains out and consequences be dammed. No one will really know what his mental processes were.

The prosecutor will try to establish the time line, what and when was made known to him by medical professionals. There is no need for subjective judgements by the court, establishing guilt or innocence should be straightforward.

This media frenzy would be the same for any public figure in the same circumstances minus the racists adding their components.

“ the ramblings of racist morons”

What society is without a racist fringe, those comments could have come from any country in the western world running the same type of news story. Your bona fide racist doesn’t care about the spread of HIV; he simply hates you for your skin colour. It also should be noted that a racist hates his victim whether they have committed a crime or even more intensely if they presented themselves as publicly successful people.

The bottom line on this is the judicial process, guilty or innocent will this end with the perception he was treated fairly?

there are cocktails of drugs now that mean HIV does not defiantly mean AIDS

And this is why he is not charged with murder, but "causing a significant health harm". HIV drugs do have side effects you know. Not to mention the social stigma for the girls. HIV is not flu, as you seem to imply.

So maybe he didn't do somethng criminal - crime is all about intentions -

Nope. If you involuntarily run over someone with your car, this is still a crime -- except that you are not charged with murder but with "causing an accident with fatal effect". The crime is about effect -- the particular qualification may be about intensions.

I reckon he didn't think he had HIV, and thought that it was racist to accuse him of having it. So he refused to have the test on principle.

Yes, and the girls refused to use condoms on principle, because "that would be copying a racist stereotype"(roughly what one of the girls said). The whole case is so stupid that it would be comical if it wasn't that tragic.

trying to give women a potentially deadly disease! That is an amazing claim and one I don’t know how the police substantiate.

Not really amazing -- there were such cases in the world. I agree that it is difficult to prove, and may not be the case -- but it is not impossible.

You seem to imply that charging Mol with his offense is somehow racist, because he is black. That reminds me of our politicians, who, when caught on a crime predictably shout: "This is a political attack!". Mol has apparently taken the same line and you are uncritically buying it.

Oh, and if the Poland was as racist and uncivilized as you suggest, Mol would have probably been lynched several months ago. Instead he has been - horror! - arrested and will probably face a fair trial.

I read somewhere that Simon Mol did not use condoms because he is very religious (although this appears not have stopped him from fornicating). Perhaps this is an important reason, as Christian Churches in Africa come out very strongly against the use of condoms.

So maybe he didn't do somethng criminal - crime is all about intentions -

Nope. If you involuntarily run over someone with your car, this is still a crime -- except that you are not charged with murder but with "causing an accident with fatal effect". The crime is about effect -- the particular qualification may be about intensions.

You are both wrong :) This particular crime is all about intentions. Someone, who had no inkling of having HIV and infected his/her partners, has not committed any crime.

The author of this here blog must be mentally deranged. Moleke committed a crime, his reasons are uncllear but it's not a racist rambling, it's just stating a obvious fact. Your way of thinking has been deformed with anti-racist paranoia and political corectness that, from what I see, makes you unable to understand the simple fact that Moleke is certainly a criminal. After his arrival to Poland he has taken the HIV test and he knew about his sickness and yet he seduced women and had sex with them without a condom. Concious spreading of a leathal disease is a crime. I'm Polish and I don't want any refugees in my country. We don't need them here and we don't want to repeat flaws of France, Netherlands or any other country reveling in multiculturalism, which leads only to cultural downfall. In my opinion such bastards like him heve no right to live, his victims were just irresponsible, dimwitted and guilty of having no sense of good taste at all, so they will see no pity from me. Of course your sick mind won't even understand such simple and obvious argumentation and I'll probably be labeled a "racist". You know what? We had PZPR here, they did all the same, everyone that had his own opinion during their commuist regime was labelled a reactionist, nationalist, right-wing extremist. You are a totalitarist of the worst sort, just like the commies that had ruined my contry for almost half a century.

If the catholic church was responsible for African men refusing to wear condoms then the highest rates of HIV would be found in the countries with the highest rate of Catholicism.

Well, this is not the case.

The two worst-hit countries (not only in Africa, but the world) are Swaziland, where the infection rate is 38.8 per cent, and Botswana, where it is 37.3 per cent. Yet these countries have low numbers of practicing Catholics: in Swaziland, between 10 and 20 per cent of the population is Catholic, while 40 per cent are Zionist (a blend of Christianity and indigenous ancestral worship) and 10 per cent are Muslim; in Botswana fewer than 5 per cent are Catholic, with 85 per cent of the population subscribing to ancient indigenous beliefs.’ (spiked online)

African men who don’t wear condoms are like the rest of men who don’t…they don’t cause they don’t like em. And in countries where life has been devalued so much for so long, who gives a shit about the risk of getting or spreading HIV…

A criminal is NOT someone that was proven to be one in the court of law but someone that has broken the law and therefore has commited a crime. Even if he manages to defend himself from the accusations of his guilt, he still will be a criminal, because he was AWARE of his disease, and broken the law spreading it and endangering lives of other people. And though the court may state otherwise due to lobbying of politically correct circles, that will not make him innocent. He'll only be free of charges.

And funny thing, no counterarguments, only rather pointless invectives. It's the only thing thing you can come to, denial. Political corectness is all about denial. Deniying simple facts that people differ. That egalitarism is a myth. There wouldn't be any reaction if the perpetrator would be Polish and White. You'd just move on and thought "what a sicko". But the guy is black, so it's a racist conspiracy. Medial lynch over innocent black man that only wanted to have sex... That is just... wrong. Simply put, you're what hate. You're "fascists", "totalitarists", "haters", unable to sustain a discussion. What irony.

Once more on the question of the AIDS, Africa and Christianity. Of course, I did not mean that Christianity causes Aids epidemics - just that it is an aggravating factor. The message spread by the churches (not just Catholic, the Evangelicals are probably even worse) that condoms are immoral, and that they don't work, must be harmful, since people everywhere find the 6. commandment the easiest to break.Similarly, in many of those "abstinence programs" in the US, the rate of teenage pregnancies is higher than average. A good article about Churches, Aids and Africa is here.

FireA criminal is someone that has been proved to have committed a crime. That kind of decision should happen in a Court of Law – and not as part of a media lynch mob. When this story broke in Thursday the guy was getting a public lynching. No defense of him at all. So I thought someone had to do it. So welcome!

Simon is innocent until proven guilty.

If they do find him guilty then they can throw away the key, for all I care. But until they do I am going to be as fair as I can…

If you really want to be fair, then forget he's origins are African, forget whatever racial sympathies or prejudices you have. That'd be fair. But you can't, am I right? It all matters. And I somehow doubt you'd show such "fairness", to a White Polish citizen. Hey, why not defend Stalin or Mao? They are getting lynched every day somewhere in Poland on some history lesson (yes, I know it's a big exagerration, but the point remains the same)? Sometimes I just can't understand why people push ther pointless defiance, to the piont where it gets absurd.

Your logic is the logic that is suspect. You did equate Christianity with AIDS. Twice in fact. Must be your short attention span or short term memory or whatever. And you are as much, no even more so, a bigot than Fire. Just have different folk to be bigotted against.

Then where is the difference, Gussie? You think you are "righteous" because you side with someone else then a "xenophobe"? You're against fanatics? My, my, you must really hate yourself then, because qualify as one without a doubt. Hipocrisy at it's peak.

Have a look at this report on political correctness in Britain and the spread of Aids. There's a stong link between African immigration and the proliferation of HIV, as you will see. http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/cs47a.pdf (page 9 onwards)

Fire said... I'm Polish and I don't want any refugees in my country. We don't need them here and we don't want to repeat flaws of France, Netherlands or any other country reveling in multiculturalism, which leads only to cultural downfall.

Perhaps you might like to look up the word 'refugee' in a dictionary. You'll find that none of them want to be in Poland either. As for being in 'your country' nobody wants to be there, which explains why nobody wants to ever spend any time with you or even be near you. Is Poland your country? Please explain why you have any more right to it than I do. But do try to note that I said you, not your parents, tell me why you have any more right to Poland than I do. Have you chosen to live here or are you only here because this is where your mother was unfortunate enough to give birth to you? I'm guessing it's just an accident of birth. How much time have you given to making Poland a better place? Very probably less than me. How much money have you given to Poland (i.e. paid in taxes less the cost of all benefits/services you have received from the Polish state)? Again, very probably considerably less than me. So what is it that makes Poland yours?

How many multi-cultural societies have you lived in? I'm guessing that the answer is fewer than one. You're another one of the 'Proud Poles', the same people who were (and still are) so fucking desperate to get a greencard for the USA and get the hell out of Poland. The same kind who is jealous of the standard of living in Germany but pleased that Ukraine is so poor because it makes them feel better about themselves. But perhaps you might want to try living in a multi-cultural society before you spout off about them? Although looking at the rest of your posts you do seem more than happy to spend your life as an ignorant fucktard so I doubt you'll ever want to live anywhere other than a place which is 99% white. Let's face the thing which really worries you: it's tough enough for you to get laid and if you had to compete with big bad black men (the ones which you just know all the ladies love), you'd never get laid again, unless you paid for it of course.

Now be a good boy and fuck off back to the Giertych Jungen meeting. Go and talk about how good your life could be if it wasn't for the Jews taking your money and the blacks taking your women and the Chinese taking your job. All the other sad-act losers there will love to hear that shite.

No, but I do hate stupidity. However, I'm not fanatical about it. I don't try to eradicate it, and only ignore people, who say things like:

I'm Polish and I don't want any refugees in my country. We don't need them here and we don't want to repeat flaws of France, Netherlands or any other country reveling in multiculturalism, which leads only to cultural downfall

Harry, I have no intention to explain myself before someone as primitive and simple-minded as you. You're living in a delusional world where everyone who wants to preserve Poland as it is (at least when it comes to questions such as ethnic background) comes from Giertych "Jugend". I did my share of travelling (among others - I've been in USA on VACATION) and I won't confess of my income or personal matters to some low-life who releases his frustrations over the net probably only because he can't do it in anyone's face because of his cowardice. Only for clarity of the matter, I never had problems with women and finding work in my field of expertise. I have enough information and experience to have a firm stand on some matters. Your only argumentation is based on materialism, so I can suspect you're a product of mass consuption society. You have outlook of a mass and you're as smart as nameless mass. Basicly, explaining anything to you would be like explaning that Jews are people to a officer of the SS. Another crypto-fascist.

Well there's a first for me: I've been called a fascist by somebody who talks about wanting to preserve the ethnic composition of Poland (of course you wouldn't want to return to the ethnic composition of Poland 70 years ago would you, far too many Jews!), says that women who sleep with black men have "no sense of good taste at all", talks of how multi-culturalism leads to cultural downfall and of multicultural societies having flaws.

I'm being called a fascist by a man who is openly racist! I must really got under your skin, eh fire? What was the part which did it? Pointing out that you have less right to Poland than I do? Or immediately guessing that you are hugely insecure about women (helpful hint for you: nobody has problems when they only pay for women like you do but it's better to not try have long-term happiness with a woman who wants paying)? Or was it being able to point out that you're an idiot who barely has enough sense to know that he is an idiot? Either way it sure is nice to know that I've pissed you off. But what can you expect from me? I'm Jewish and we only exist to make the lives of good Catholic men like yourself as difficult as possible.

Must be off now, need to find a Catholic child to sacrifice under the moon and drink its blood. You'll remember how we do that, it was the reason that you proud Poles needed to have a pogrom AFTER the holocaust.

Beatroot, perhaps the biggest reason for Aids in Africa is promiscuity. The immigrants continue their habits in their new countries while amply making use of the welfare state. Hence the scarcity of two-parent families in the black communities outside Africa.

Harry, why don't you go back to England where you come from. You can't afford to live there, I suppose, so you stay here and moan about the terrible Poles and their racist habits. Move to Brixton or Hackney and practice what you preach.

Sorry, Anonymous but please don't let this get to that level. I know Harry has made some comments that have been rather personal in nature - and I do not encourage that type of debate - but how do you know he comes from England? You know him. And if you know him you can tell that sort of thing to his face...

I like the comments on this blog to be about ideas...not insults....this is not a blog for screaming teenagers...we are adults here...

beatroot - there is a reality beyond whatever jugdement or agreement is made upon what the reality is - and in this real reality - say objective reality - someone who has broken certain law is a criminal - this is by definition I guess - you break the law - you are a criminal - still it is not evident to others - cause no control light starts up on your forehead for everyone to see - as the guilt in legal sense is mostly not obvious we need to examine it - that is why we set up courts. Noone of just heart would want anybody innocent be punished. The punishment in itself actually does not in most cases offer the best solution for all (for the whole I mean)(very often it produces much damage to the criminal and to the society) but the current state of mass human consciousness prevents better solutions for the souls of criminals.

Interestingly the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine researchers gathered data from 59 countries for a study last year. The result? Westerns are far more promiscuous. Those reporting multiple partners were much higher in developed countries - up to a third of under 25s in some areas - whereas only a small percentage in Africa reported the same. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6101970.stm But hey, why let facts get in the way of debate?

You certainly don't when talking about me. Just a few little problems: I'm not English, wasn't born there, have lived for most of my life outside England, neither of my parents were born there and none of my grandparents were either. I could most certainly could afford to live there if I chose to. The last place I lived in England has an ethnic make up in which white people are as common as non-whites in Poland. But apart from that you are absolutely spot-on, exactly as you are with your racism!

little correction: girlfirends not only one girl. He spend 7 years in Poland. During this time he has few relations. All of his exgirls are HIV negative. Only his lovers, as they said, has been infected by Simon.

I writed last posts signed as Anymous. Yes, its possible that he has been infected in Poland. Its hard to jugde. I understood his point of view, becouse I know how he has been treating in this country becouse of his nationality and politics. There is a lot of people who were trying to destroy him and his work.

Generally, this stunt stinks and manifest a range of racism in Poland. Medias lyched him before count formed a judgment. I thins that some independent tribunal should control this proces.

«Moleke is known in Poland for his involvement in leftist activism . The case has surfaced only recently, but as records on the internet forum of the Green Party website show, the intentional spreading of HIV by Moleke might have been known to the leftist activist circles as early as over half a year ago.»

he calls himself a refugee. He's probably an economic migrant trying to flee poverty that his Mugabe type leaders have inflicted on there own people, while blaming the west. Have a look at what happened in Zimbabwe, because it will happen in Europe once we get enough Africans in. It's a mentality thing in the end. Tribal people think differently. I know, I spent a lot of time working in African countries.Will

Why there's so much Aids in Africa:Dry sexFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, searchFor sex in which bodily fluids are not exchanged, or "dry fucking", see frottage. Dry sex is a sexual practice of minimizing vaginal secretions by using intravaginal desiccants, by wiping out the vagina, or by other methods before and during sexual intercourse, thus making the woman's vagina dry and tight. The practice is supposed to generate extra sensation for the man during intercourse but is often uncomfortable for the woman. The practice is common in Sub-Saharan Africa and is of concern as it increases the chances of transmitting sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) including AIDS.

Furthermore, the practice of dry sex is generally incompatible with the use of condoms (which require lubrication to avoid breakage). It may also result in vaginal inflammation and/or traumatic lesions which in turn may increase the transmission of STDs in other ways

The Simon Mol case has indeed a "racist" side. S.M. skilfully played the "antiracist" card when convincing his sex partners to have unprotected sex with him and when threatening those who wanted to go public. The naive girls who went to bed with him rejected to insist that he uses a condome for ideological reasons, for not being labeled "racist," an epithet that is devastating in "progressive," "tolerant," etc. circles where they came from. So don't blame the Poles - they are no more racist than their neighbors. Do blame the ideologues of "political correctness."

Let me make still three remarks.(1) Who checked the "long-standing" relations with women S.M. talks about? Their HIV- status? Fact or fiction? S.M. is a "poet" - people who, as a rule, are fantasy-prone (otherwise they aren't good). The infections of the girls he slept with - until three days ago 14 women reported to the police - are documented facts, S.M.'s too.(2) Those girls who had unprotected sex with S.M. most probably took the pill. That would imply that at least some of them had, in addition, a steady relationship. Others will also have had sex with other men after S.M. Who else might be also infected? STDs spread by chain reaction.(3) S.M. was the darling of leftist and "progressive" circles, not only in Poland, but also in Germany. They showered him publicly with honors for his vanguard role in human rights activities. That is the reason why his case meets so much public attention. Any individual with such a publicity record would have met the same attention, regardless of the color of his skin. Think of the Catholic priests in the U.S. who molested children. Their case attracted public attention not because Catholics are a persecuted minority there (they aren't at all), but because those priests betrayed the moral principles they stood for in public. The same holds for Simon Mol.

I find it hard to believe Polish women found this guy attractive. They should have realised about the high rate of HIV among blacks. They got what they deserved. Why did the Poles not kick simon and people of his ilk out of Europe and lived hapily everafter? All these 100 women should be transported to Cameroon and left there so that they can enjoy more interacial humping with ugly men and live with the disease.

^ Oh look! Another jealous Polish man who is worried that the big bad black man will take all his women away! Maybe if fewer Polish men treated women like shit, fewer Polish women would prefer foreign men to Polish men.

On my last visit to Poland in 2004, I got to know a Black man, did not know where he was from, could be, and I think it was the U.S.A. who spoke Polish and live in Poland for some time, and worked as a Pimp, and had several Polish women working for him, who loved him very much, and he treated them like dirt. All he wanted was their money. He could be one of the Africans who are doing this.

Beatroot:Today, "Rzeczpospolita" reports (http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/1461513,11,item.html) that the authorities have known for over seven years about SM's HIV+ status (It, therefore, must have emerged during medical tests for his asylum application). Because there is no law that can force anybody to undergo treatment, nor one's condition can be made known to others, SM was able to keep on spreading the virus with impunity.You can spin most news stories, but this is not one of them. SM fooled almost everybody who knew him - the infected girls, his coworkers, fellow greens, antifascists, antiracists, exhiled poets, etc. Some bloggers too...

Harry, I find your rants completely inappropriate. I have no idea where you come from and what your knowledge of Poland is, but you sure have no "right" to Poland. I can tell you hate Poland and your ilk would be glad to "civilize us" but no thank you. And you know what will happen if you tried, that's why you just ramble and spew hatred about some country you don't understand.

Also, I *assumed* he's from England due to "shite" spelling and a name "Harry." So anyone saying he's from England may not be revealing a huge secret. Now, it's possible he's from somewhere else, but EU background is a given.

It certainly takes hutzpa for Harry to claim he has more right to Poland than Fire. Dude, newsflash to you, whatever you think of Fire's views and opinions, he's claim to Poland is infinitely greater than yours, so kindly bug off.

^ Superb debating skills there anonymous. Perhaps you would like to explain why a person whose claims to Poland are accident of birth and wanting to keep Poland white should have a better claim than somebody who has taken a considered choice to come here, has spent years working for the good of Poland (at considerable financial cost to himself) and has used Polish state funded services/facilies exactly twice (and has been denied use of them far more times than that) but has still paid hundreds of thousands of zloty in tax to Poland.

I'm amazed that you think I hate Poland. Why on earth would I spend more than a decade in a place I hate? I very much like Poland. The main problem with the country is the unfulfilled potential.

Oh, the EU country which I have most links to (and the only one to which I have an independant claim to a passport from) is Poland. So you are at least right about the EU background. First think you've got right in this entire debate!

What a silly discussion. Who has more right to an abstract noun. As far as doing some good for the state of Poland and its inhabitants is concerned, Harry is certainly way ahead of many other residents of that state, e.g. R. Giertych.

Although Harry, in my estimation at least from what I've read of his posts, usually seems a greater asset to Poland than Giertych although I wish he could find it in himself to be more patient with Poland and rise above the taunts of far too many Polish bigots (still by far not the majority of the Polish people who are not untermenschen who do not deserve to be categorized as Homo Sapiens as you, gussie Luxemborg insist upon doing).

You have repeatedly insisted that the people of Poland as a whole fall short of being Homo Sapiens.

Explaining a metaphor or a joke is always a thankless task, but I'll try it this once.

"Homo Sapiens" means "thinking man", right? My point is that a large proportion of Poland's population seems to be replacing independent thinking with black/white thinking and with blind following of nationalist and bigoted slogans.

That's very stupid article. "Political corectedness" destroys your clear thinking ???Why do you write:"That is an amazing claim and one I don’t know how the police substantiate."

Now, the police knows 18 girls who say that they had unprotected sexual relations with Simon M. Some of them say that they told Simon that he was HIV positive and he didn't react.I refugee camp people say that Simon has HIV test 7 years ago, and 7 years ago he knew that he had HIV.For seven years he had maybe unprotected sexual relations with maybe about 30, maybe more girls.

So for me he is a serial killer.And Simon Mol is much more racist than all other racists in Poland... because he kills...

With a girl called Anna, we want to remove from internet all articles, poetry and informations about public activity of Simon Mol . We want to remove everything except the criminal records. Judge can put him in prison, we want to kill him in other way. We invite everyone who wants to participate. It is easy, simply send emails to sites, where you can find anything created by Simon Mol, and demand to remove it. If you want to help us, please spread this idea as far as you can.

If you want now more(polish): http://polityka-4rp.blogspot.com/2007/01/akcja-wymaza-simona-mola.html

ask Fundacja Moja Afryka to explain why Simon M. was a frontman of their activities. ask if he had the right to get asylum seeker. ask the greens to justify their careless campaign supporting such people lik simon.

Judge can put him in prison, we want to kill him in other way. We invite everyone who wants to participate.

Not bothering with any kind of trial are you? Simon Mol is black so he must be guilty of something, right? You want to kill him before he's found guilty. Just a good old fashioned lynching, eh?

The really bad thing about this entire matter is that every day that it continues more Poles prove that Hitler might well have actually been right when he viewed slavs in general and Poles in particular as being inferior beings. Europe has moved on from racism, sadly much of Poland has not.

I am a Mexican that was living in Poland and my comment is no other than saying that Polish girls are the greatest and sweetest type of girls I have ever met, in the name of all Mexico FUCK YOU NIGGER BASTARD and go back to your sorry ass unwanted 4th world country.

Mol, who has been a refugee in Poland since 1999, risks up to 10 years in prison, said the prosecutor’s office.”

Original article

He accepts the refuge provided him by Poland then to show his gratitude he, for all practical purposes muders four women. That must be his way of showing his disdain for the race that supported him and so many of his brethren of the skin in so many European countries and North America.

Ten years in prison? He should be stood up before a firing squad.WHen in bloody hell are we going to react to these atrocities?

“It’s a method through which it’s Cameroonian author hopes to bring Poles closer to the problems of Africa…” says a blurb from simonmol.com. The sheer gall of these refugees is amazing. Are bald headed AIDS infected black men Africa’s largest export?

““It’s a method through which it’s Cameroonian author hopes to bring Poles closer to the problems of Africa…” says a blurb from simonmol.com. The sheer gall of these refugees is amazing. Are bald headed AIDS infected black men Africa’s largest export?

Posted by John S. at 9:28 PM on January 8”

Yes, his website www.simonmol.com is well worth a look. Here’s a gem of this great poet’s wisdom:

“He grabs out a recent newspaper. “Look”, he almost shouts now. “Authorities treat refugees as statistics not human beings.” He reads out a quote from a high official in the Department for Migration and Refugees in Poland: “It’s a brutal fact, but refugees are useless for the Polish economy.” Simon comments: “So what kind of help can we expect from that? Not long ago Poles were refugees themselves.” He sighs: “People forget so fast.””

And what have Africans done for the Poles? Well, they allied themselves with Polands’ Soviet oppressors for one.

If you peruse the website of this worthless sociopathic killer you’ll find all sorts of promotions for various multicultural events to expose Poles to the wonderful diversity the world has to offer (including HIV infected cameroonian poets). Last I checked Poland had a perfectly serviceable culture already - polish culture. Why do they need to import any other?

Yes, John S., you’re right the gall of these people is stunning. Poland is starting with a nearly clean slate - it doesn’t need to make the mistakes that have been made in America and western Europe. Please don’t make them. Are there any Poles reading this website? Do yourselves an enormous favor - kick these parasites out of your country.

He should be given the death sentence in my opinion. That is why Poland and every other country should not allow these Africans in. I do feel these women were gullible and stupid but they don’t deserve to die as some on here have suggested.

I wait for the day that I hear about an African immigrant/refugee spreading AIDS to Japanese, Chinese, or Korean women. Of course, that day will never come as all these countries have intelligent immigration policies. I also think that their women are less inclined “to get down with the brothers.”

This is from Simon Mol’s website on 12/23/05, titled “Random notes from my Diary”:

“I would rather go to hell alone, knowing I was fully responsible for all my thoughts and actions. I won’t be able to live with myself in hell, if it so happens that I looked around me and saw a friend or several people who came alone with me to hell as a result of believing in what I believed in. Or that I convinced then knowingly or knowingly to follow the path I did; the path that finally landed me in hell.”

Well, it appears he’s decided not to go to hell alone after all! A year ago he wrote that he is fully responsible for his actions, but I’ll bet he’s singing a different tune now.

This pattern of a black immigrant/”refugee” to a white country spreading AIDs to countless white women of the host country has repeated itself time and again: There has been cases like this (some reproduced on this site) in Finland, England, Canada, and on and on. And now Poland.The problem is that the whites especially in places like Poland and Finland are just so NAIVE about many blacks.

There is a posting on Simon Mol’s website, dated February 2006 in which he specifically addresses these HIV stories which have been around for over a year now - http://www.simonmol.com/2006/02/son_of_efasamot.html#more

“Of the three relationships I have had here (with each spanning more than a year), none of which was clandestine as I was known by the parents of the girls, none of them came complaining of being HIV positive. Not even a conventional enemy would go this far with such an accusation. Only a determined, ideologically motivated faceless entity with a pathological grudge would.

As an activist, I know I have set myself on the firing line”

“Obviously my enemies are preparing my orbituary. However, none should be fooled should I drop dead soon. In such a case my death would have been fabricated. I consider this a much more than deadly physical attack… it is an attack on my very totality, ‘reality’ and what I stand for.”*********

A review of the Polish press and blogs seems to indicate that there is more to this story than meets the eye, and that good old politics may be at the root of this whole story. Why on earth did it take a whole year to arrest him???

"Do you think anyone is afraid of a coward, who writes personal insults anonymously?" _______________

Now, the above would be funny if it wasn't so ucked fup:

from Wikipedia --

Augustus "Gussie" Fink-Nottle is a fictional character who appears in several of P. G. Wodehouse's novels.. . he is "a teetotal bachelor with a face like a fish", wears horn-rimmed spectacles, and devotes his life to the study of newts; his eccentric behavior is reminiscent of a person with Asperger syndrome.

The scene in _Right Ho, Jeeves_ in which Gussie, thoroughly inebriated due to Jeeves and, later, Bertie Wooster lacing his orange juice with a sufficient amount of gin, as well as his own massive drink of whisky...

And if you think that pointing out that there is a surge in racism and bigotism in the Polish society under the leprechaun twins, are "bigoted incedinary anti-Polish rants", then you need semantics lessons. In the words of M. Edelman ""If we want to save Poland, my advice would be to take up the knife and hit them where it hurts."

And the newts are doing fine, thank you. I'm in the middle of a very delicate experiment: I'm trying to find out whether the gay behaviour among newts is due to nature or nurture.

If anybody would like to meet me I am generally to be found drinking in Bar Below on friday evenings. I'm sure that we can fairly quickly establish that nobody is an inferior or superior human based solely on their skin-colour. But if anybody would like to try and demonstrate the superiority of the white man over people like me, well, I'm always up for a good laugh.

Hello, I`m from Poland too. Today my friend told me about what happend two days ago. I`m eighteen, I`m very attracitive and haven`t sleept with any men yet(!!).Why? Because of diseases, AIDS, mainly bc of my moral standards. I know polish girls are easy. I would never go to bad even if he was smart, nice and handsome. of course he`s guilt, but the problem is in new sexual education in schools, in modern model of life. Sex is everywhere. Polish ppl now about african situation, know that free sex with many partners caused diseases, know that condoms protect from AIDS. One, two... maybe 20 girls, but 100? How could it happend? I still can`t belive this have took place. For me- he` mental and he knew about his illness. But it`s only my opinion, and in next few days we will know more about this... BY THE WAY what I have found in polish websites, were anonymous posts from women(from JUNE 2006) who had sex with him, and are already infected by him. And it`s a fact.eewikkk@o2.pl- if anyone wants to talk.

I haven't visited Simon in jail, mainly because I don't know Simon. And because I view people on what they do, not on the colour of their skin. If one of my friends was accused of a crime the colour of their skin would not matter to me. Just as the skin colour of a criminal who robs me does not matter to me.

Anyway Piotr, just on the off-chance that you are the same poster who said that he would "like to meet you in person to show you what is an inferior human being. Interested in meeting personally ?" or the poster who said "This racist nigger thinks he is superior..." I was indeed exactly where I said I would be tonight. Was there from 7pm to 11pm, will most probably be there again same day and time next week. If you would like to stop by and have a beer I would be pleased to buy you one (of course you would want to buy me one back) and we can talk about this obermenschen idea. Alternatively you can try tp prove to me that you as a white man are superior to me solely because of your skin colour. Like I said, I'm always up for a laugh. Although once you have tried and failed you will have to buy me a beer and a vodka (Polish vodka only thanks, it's the best).

The Simon Mol case has indeed a "racist" side. S.M. skilfully played the "antiracist" card when convincing his sex partners to have unprotected sex with him and when threatening those who wanted to go public. The naive girls who went to bed with him rejected to insist that he uses a condome for ideological reasons, for not being labeled "racist," an epithet that is devastating in "progressive," "tolerant," etc. circles where they came from. So don't blame the Poles - they are no more racist than their neighbors. Do blame the ideologues of "political correctness."

It’s interesting that this “poet” fled his own country pursued by deadly enemies, went to South Africa, went to England, then left England (for some reason) and moved on to Poland, now in Poland after only 7 years, he has already made more new deadly enemies who are preparing his obituary.

Really? And to have accomplished making all those enemies within a mere 33 years! That takes talent.

harry, so why are black countries such corrupt hellholes? Nigeria, Kenia, Zimbabwe etc. Is it because blacks don't think about tomorrow and can't organise anything? Look at Aids in Africa, what are blacks doing about it, are they changing their ways, fucking fewer partners etc.? You will obviously blame the west for all the ills of black states. I know how do-gooders think.Will

Simon Mol always accused everybody of racism. When you didn't do what he wished, he would yell that it was because he was black. He never listened to any arguments, he would always just leave, slamming the door behind him. Everyone knew that he could make his accusations public, and everyone feared it," says a person who runs a humanitarian organization that helps refugees. "It goes without saying; he terrorized us with political correctness."

Simon Mol always accused everybody of racism. When you didn't do what he wished, he would yell that it was because he was black. He never listened to any arguments, he would always just leave, slamming the door behind him. Everyone knew that he could make his accusations public, and everyone feared it," says a person who runs a humanitarian organization that helps refugees. "It goes without saying; he terrorized us with political correctness."

Simon Mol always accused everybody of racism. When you didn't do what he wished, he would yell that it was because he was black. He never listened to any arguments, he would always just leave, slamming the door behind him. Everyone knew that he could make his accusations public, and everyone feared it," says a person who runs a humanitarian organization that helps refugees. "It goes without saying; he terrorized us with political correctness."

1) Of course this is a matter of racism and politics. He is on trial, isn't he? How many gay men of any race have been put on trial for infecting other gay males? How many white males have been put on trial for infecting white women or black women?

2) HIV in West Africa is extremely rare. Even the orthodoxy admits so.

3) There is no HIV epidemic in Africa. This is simply a western chimera, created by the pharmaceutical corporations and certain gay activist groups.

4) HIV has never been isolated to the degree that there is a test that isolates HIV from the blood of HIV patients. All test results are based on EIA and Western Blot (rarely, especially in Africa, and nearly absent from HIV surveys), which have been adapted to look for PROTEINS that are thought to be unique to antibodies, which are thought to be unique to HIV. Even though malaria antibodies will give the same 'positive' result. Guess what, 90% of malaria cases occur in Africa, including West Africa. EIA (ELISA) and Western Blot are generic tests that are also used in diagnosing other diseases and infections. What they don't do, is look for HIV; instead, they test 'positive' when detecting gp 41, gp 120, gp 160, p24, etc.

5) Between 1980 and 2005 (25 years), the population of all 'effected' African countries DOUBLED. (Except South Africa, which has as large white population which went from 20% to 10%; t

country, population (x 1000)

Zambia 1980 5,7002004 10,962

South Africa1980 29,2522004 44,448

According to Statistics South Africa, the mid-year population estimate is 47.4 million in 2006.

1980 6112004 1,138

Congo, DRC1980 29,0112004 58,919

Uganda, the 'epicenter of AIDS'1980 12,4152004 27,234

There is not a single country in Africa that has a smaller population today than it had 5, let alone 10 years ago.

Now does this sound like a disease for which all kinds of exceptional circumstances must be invoked, to explain a massive epidemic in Africa?

Anonymous said... harry, so why are black countries such corrupt hellholes? Nigeria, Kenia, Zimbabwe etc. Is it because blacks don't think about tomorrow and can't organise anything? Look at Aids in Africa, what are blacks doing about it, are they changing their ways, fucking fewer partners etc.? You will obviously blame the west for all the ills of black states. I know how do-gooders think.Will

Funny you should say this Will, I was actually talking to my grand-mother about corruption while I was in UK last Christmas. Her comment (about Tanganyika) was that it the first person in town to know about foreign aid/loans was the Jaguar dealer in Dar es Salaam, because he suddenly had lots of orders for new cars from the civil servants. This was during the times when the great white man ruled Tanganyika.

Before you spout off that same tired old rhetoric about africans having more sexual partners perhaps you would like to refer to the scientific studies which have been done on this issue? I've linked to one in this thread. You will note that africans on average have fewer partners than Poles do.

Anonymous said... harry, so why are black countries such corrupt hellholes? Nigeria, Kenia, Zimbabwe etc. Is it because blacks don't think about tomorrow and can't organise anything? Look at Aids in Africa, what are blacks doing about it, are they changing their ways, fucking fewer partners etc.? You will obviously blame the west for all the ills of black states. I know how do-gooders think.Will

Funny you should say this Will, I was actually talking to my grand-mother about corruption while I was in UK last Christmas. Her comment (about Tanganyika) was that it the first person in town to know about foreign aid/loans was the Jaguar dealer in Dar es Salaam, because he suddenly had lots of orders for new cars from the civil servants. This was during the times when the great white man ruled Tanganyika.

Before you spout off that same tired old rhetoric about africans having more sexual partners perhaps you would like to refer to the scientific studies which have been done on this issue? I've linked to one in this thread. You will note that africans on average have fewer partners than Poles do.

Whatever harry. It's not 1960 anymore. You're a typical Pom who keeps harping on about the past. Leave Poland please, we don't need queer leftie activists like you here. 'Useful idiots' is how the Russians used to call your type.J

J is right! This Harry is nothing but a 'useful idiot'.I guess he must be one of Simon's friends.And from his comments we can also see that because Harry is black, he thinks he has some moral superiority over other people.When he has nothing better to say he calls racists to other people...

Like the 'antifascist'monster who infected girls who were afraid to be taken as 'racists'.

* There is no HIV epidemic in Africa. This is simply a western chimera, created by the pharmaceutical corporations and certain gay activist groups. ________It absolutely amazes me that somebody could post such absolute nonsense as the above. While cognizant that informed discussion has long since gone down the shitter on the beatroot, for a primer on HOV-AIDS in sub-Saharan Africa, see:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS_in_Africa

Some snippets:The HIV/AIDS epidemics spreading through the countries of Sub-Saharan Africa are highly varied. Although it is not correct to speak of a single African epidemic, Africa is without doubt the region most affected by the virus. Inhabited by just over 12% of the world's population, Africa is estimated to have more than 60% of the AIDS-infected population.

The Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS (UNAIDS) has predicted outcomes for the region to the year 2025. These range from a plateau and eventual decline in deaths beginning around 2012 to a catastrophic continual growth in the death rate with potentially 90 million cases of infection.

For the purposes of this discussion, Western Africa shall include the coastal countries of Mauritania, Senegal, The Gambia, Cape Verde, Guinea-Bissau, Guinea, Sierra Leone, Liberia, Côte d'Ivoire, Ghana, Togo, Benin, Nigeria and the landlocked states of Mali, Burkina Faso and Niger.

The region has generally high levels of infection of both HIV-1 and HIV-2

Well done for posting from a source which can be edited by any poster who chooses to do so. That's the reason why quotes from wikipedia are never used in serious work.

For an example a serious study please see the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine study which gathered data from 59 countries on sexual activity. Unfortunately for the bigots here (and members of the LPR everywhere), the results showed that westerns are more promiscuous than Africans. I’ve already linked to a news article about the report in this thread but the bigots are either incapable of reading it or refuse to read it because it shows that they are wrong.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6101970.stm

Let me post some of the text:“People in western countries tend to have more sexual partners than those in the developing world, a study says. Monogamy is dominant across the world, but multiple partners are more common in rich countries, according to the study published in the Lancet. This was despite developing countries having higher rates of sexually transmitted infections and HIV.

London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine researchers gathered data from 59 countries for the study. They said factors such as poverty and mobility had more of a role in sexually transmitted infections than promiscuity had.”

“Researchers said most people reported only having one sexual partner in the last year. However, those reporting multiple partners were much higher in developed countries - up to a third of under 25s in some areas - whereas only a small percentage in Africa reported the same. And among singletons, westerners were more sexually active as well. Two thirds of men and women without a partner in African countries reported they had had sex recently, compared to three quarters of those in developed countries. Surprising The researchers said these findings were surprising, as higher rates of STIs were reported in developing countries.”

Now I know that some of the words in that text are a bit too long for some bigots to understand, but if you go to the BBC webpage there are nice pretty pictures to look at. And some of you bigots might think that the BBC is riddled with blacks and other communists. So here is how FoxNews (fair and balanced) reports the study:“LONDON — In the first comprehensive global study of sexual behavior, British researchers found that people aren't losing their virginity at ever younger ages, married people have the most sex, and there is no firm link between promiscuity and sexually transmitted diseases.The study was published Wednesday as part of a series on sexual and reproductive health by the British medical journal, The Lancet. Professor Kaye Wellings of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicines and her colleagues analyzed data from 59 countries worldwide.Experts say data gleaned from the study will be useful not only in dispelling popular myths about sexual behavior, but in shaping policies that will help improve sexual health across the world. Researchers looked at previously published studies on sexual behavior in the last decade. They also used data from national governments worldwide. Wellings noted that since the survey results were based on self-reporting, they could be susceptible to error.Wellings said she was surprised by some of the survey's results."We did have some of our preconceptions dashed," she said, explaining that they had expected to find the most promiscuous behavior in regions like Africa with the highest rates of sexually transmitted diseases. That was not the case, as multiple partners were more commonly reported in industrialized countries where the incidence of such diseases was relatively low.There's a misperception that there's a great deal of promiscuity in Africa, which is one of the potential reasons for HIV/AIDS spreading so rapidly," said Dr. Paul van Look, director of Reproductive Health and Research at the World Health Organization, who was unconnected to the study. "But that view is not supported by the evidence."Wellings says that implies that promiscuity may be less important than factors such as poverty and education -- especially in the encouragement of condom use -- in the transmission of sexually transmitted diseases. The survey found that single men and women in Africa were fairly sexually inactive: only two thirds of them reported recent sexual activity, compared with three quarters of their counterparts in developed countries.The study also found that contrary to popular belief, sexual activity is not starting any earlier than commonly believed. Nearly everywhere, men and women have their first sexual experiences in their late teens (aged 15-19 years), with generally younger ages for women than for men.Still, there are considerable discrepancies across countries. In the United Kingdom, for example, men and women tend to lose their virginity at ages 16.5 and 17.5 respectively. In comparison, men and women in Indonesia waited until they were 24.5 and 18.5 respectively before crossing the sexual threshold.Researchers also found that married people have the most sex, and that there has been a gradual shift to delay marriage, even in developing countries.While that has meant a predictable rise in the rates of premarital sex, experts say this doesn't necessarily translate into more dangerous behavior.In some instances, married women may be at more risk than single women."A single woman is more able to negotiate safe sex in certain circumstances than a married woman," says van Look, who points out that married women in Africa and Asia are often threatened by unfaithful husbands who frequent prostitutes.There is much greater equality between women and men with regard to the number of sexual partners in rich countries than in poor countries, the study found. For example, men and women in Australia, Britain, France and the U.S. tend to have an almost equal number of sexual partners.In contrast, in Cameroon, Haiti, and Kenya, men tend to have multiple partners while women tend only to have one. This imbalance has significant public health implications."In countries where women are beholden to their male partners, they are likely not to have the power to request condom use, and they probably won't know about their husbands' transgressions," said Wellings.Because of the diversity of sexual habits worldwide, Wellings warns that no single approach to sexual health will work everywhere. "There are very different economic, religious and social rules governing sexual conduct across the world," Wellings said.”http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,226560,00.html

C'mon Harry! You stated that Poles had more partners than Africans. Was Poland one of the 59 countries studied? Heh? Your comments in this respect aren't even serious enuff to appear on Wikipedia where I'm sure they would be quickly corrected as based on zilch, nada, nic.

And one study is just that, one study. And the study you quote does not at all or anywhere dispute that HIV/AIDS has a disproportionate presence in Africa. What's your problem with the UNAIDS findings and predictions?

in Cameroon, although no official complaint has ever been made, the practice of people wilfully spreading the HIV virus is not new. There have been cases where HIV positive men, on their dying beds, handed lists of girls they had unprotected sex with from the moment they knew they were carriers of the killer virus. The irony is that some members of the public even knew of the intentions and atrocious deeds of these people!

An asylum seeker who had sex with scores of women while he worked illegally at a British campsite has given at least six HIV.

Caravan salesman Everson Banda, 29, who was deported back to his home of Zimbabwe last month before news of his disease fully emerged.

He worked at a caravan park in Essex for two years and slept with 13 members of staff and a number of holidaymakers during three seasons.

It was only after immigration officials had removed him that they discovered letters in his caravan from lawyers of women who claimed he had given them HIV.

They named up to five distraught lovers infected with the virus - which causes Aids - after having sex with Banda who calls himself 'Ace'.

Panic spread through the Orchards Holiday Village near Clacton-on-Sea and a staff member also tested positive - she said Banda was the only man she had slept with.

The burly African, whose own health had been failing, was removed by the immigration service on August 19.

He was arrested for overstaying and thrown out after he admitted his claim that he faced imprsionment, torture or death in Zimbabwe was false.

A Home Office source said that if they had known Banda had the infection before he flew home he may have faced a police investigation.

Carriers of the virus who knowingly infect sexual partners have already been convicted of assault occasioning grievous bodily harm in British courts.

It is thought Banda entered Britain six years ago on a tourist visa but overstayed. He lied about his immigration status to first land a job as a security guard at the village and then work as a saleman.

Although Banda lived in a tower block in central Southend, Essex, he was given use of a site caravan, which is where he seduced many of his conquests.

He is said to have wooed girls at the campsite's pubs and bars, plying them with drink before walking them back to his berth.

He was told in April last year to become a registered security guard if he wanted to continue working there.

But he could not provide a passport or visa for the post and talked bosses into appointing him as a caravan salesman, selling mobile homes priced £17,000 to £75,000.

He became the lover of another salesgirl who has so far not tested positve for HIV.

Banda is believed to have infected another colleague who regularly became ill with colds and after going to her doctor was horrified to discover she was HIV positive.

His most recent girlfriend was a Polish barmaid who recently returned to her homeland unaware of his dark secret.

A source in the camp told The Sun: "In the three seasons he had been here, Banda's health had been slowly deteriorating.

"His skin had been falling off his face and scalp, and he had been losing his hair. "He started out quite muscular but in recent times he had lost a lot of weight. At the time people blamed it on stress, they said he had immigartion problems.

"When the guys went into his caravan, they also found a lot of medication, tablets in silver foil wrappers.

"Perhaps he was leaving them as a sign to say what he had done and to tell his lovers they must get tested."

Holidaymakers come to the popular seaside campsite form as far away as Belgium, Poland and Germany.

Home Office sources confirmed Banda had been 'removed' back to Zimbabwe after dropping a political asylum claim following his arrest for overstaying.

A source said: "It wasn't until after his arrest that we became aware he was HIV positive. "This has no relevance to our handling of the case but came to light in the course of our enquiries.

"Banda claimed asylum soon after his arrest for overstaying - then dropped his claims and agreed to be removed back to Zimbabwe.

"Perhaps he realised it was a good opportunity to get away from the terrible situation he had created."

An immigration service spokesman refused to comment on Banda's case saying "We do not comment on individual cases."

A spokesman for The Orchards Holiday Park said: "We are now carrying out a full investigation and are in contact with the Home Office and Immigration Directorate to discover how Everson Banda was able to enter this country with forged documents and gain employment.

"This is a most unfortunate situation and we are co-operating fully with the Home office, police and any other interested parties to find out the truth of the matter."

Needless to say, this political correctness ” terrorism ” only works on Europeans.

Can you imagine this absurdity in Japan ? More than ever I am convinced that this pathological susceptibilty to guilt must be genetically hard wired, because it seems to span all European whites ( and whites only ) — completely independent of national identity, history, culture, politics, or economic ideology.

I don’t have the figure with me of the number of black Africans who die of AIDS every day, but I know it is very substantial, probably in the order of tens of thousands.If somehow, all the corpses could be piled into one place, and Harry could be taken to view the pile of corpses and the running total of more corpses that must be added every minute to keep pace with the death-rate, I have no doubt he would still deny the reality of the AIDS epidemic in Africa and shout out ‘Tuberculosis!’ ‘Malnutrition!’, ‘The effects of colonialism!’ ‘Malaria!’….In fact just like the South African president formerly did or still does.

The fact is, although denied by crackpots and bald-faced liars that HIV actually exists, has epidemic prevalence in sub-Saharan Africa, has an enormous mortality toll and is spread through the rampant sexual promiscuity that characterises black Africans, and in that sense is eminently preventable.

geez said... C'mon Harry! You stated that Poles had more partners than Africans. Was Poland one of the 59 countries studied? Heh? Your comments in this respect aren't even serious enuff to appear on Wikipedia where I'm sure they would be quickly corrected as based on zilch, nada, nic.

And one study is just that, one study. And the study you quote does not at all or anywhere dispute that HIV/AIDS has a disproportionate presence in Africa. What's your problem with the UNAIDS findings and predictions?

If you bothered to read the link you might know something about this study. If is a study of data from more than 250 separate studies which were performed in 59 different countries across the world. In addition to being serious enough to appear on Wikipedia it was also serious enough to be published in the Lancet.

I adore your comment about the study not disputing that there is a high level of HIV and AIDS in Africa. Nice try but you’ll note that nowhere have I disagreed with that statement. My disagreement is with the bigots who say that the cause of that is high levels of promiscuity in Africa. The fact is that Africans are less promiscuous. And the evidence backs that up

Harry: We agree on the the relative import of promiscuity bearing on the incidence and fatality of HIV/AIDS in Africa, I think, although there is obviously wide variation by country and region.

Again, given that same kinda variation by country, I find it hard to believe that the rates in Poland are equivalent to "western countries" or to those for Africa. And as far as I could see, Poland was not one of the 59 countries included in the Lancet study, so the conclusions vis-a-vis Poland were highly dubious.

And those 250 studies were the substance of the one bigger composeite study that was published, no? I really don't know the methodology of each of those studies nor how the Lancet study compiled the data from those studies. I don't much care so pardon me for not carefully pulling up the link and taking the time to study the Lancet article.

My bone of contention was your statement about Poland compared to Africa -- and the statements made by the anonymous poster, with whom I got the impression, perhaps wrongly, you agreed. Dat guy wrote:An anonymous poster wrote:

*HIV in West Africa is extremely rare. Even the orthodoxy admits so.

* There is no HIV epidemic in Africa. This is simply a western chimera, created by the pharmaceutical corporations and certain gay activist groups.

I loooked at the Mol website and just as I thought there’s more to the story—as Mol states in his own words. It’s quite possible that Mol is a latest victim of “Hell hath no fury as a woman scorned”. Though he does admit that family pressures from one of his paramours may have been a factor too. Here is a man whose disposition towards Poland is certainly being intensely mol-lified”

Face it, he knew he was HIV+ and you can carry the virus for years and have not show it or have symptoms.The antifascist of the year, slept with these women knowing that he was infected and didn’t tell them. He’s an evil and selfish man. As far as the tired old hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, men are far more likely to get violently vindictive then women are.

Is it only white people that can be racist? I think not and in this case if Simon Mol is convicted does it not show him to be a racist? Just because you have an opinion about an issue involving a foreign person does not make you racist its called freedom of speach. Something which is becoming more difficult for the average white person with an opinion. And all the other foregners have to do is shout racism and thats it. In the uk they have every culture under the sun and every race and just look at the choas it courses. Its certainly not a good thing it destroys freedom of spech it destroys your own nationality and your own identity and it makes you afraid to express your opinians because they may be viewed as "racist". For instance inthe uk in some schools and jobs they have banned people from wearing a cruxifix around their necks because it offends other religions? Even tho other religions are allowed to wear their veils and turbins! Now does this not tell us certainly in the uk we are losing the right to freedom of spech and it is infact white europeans that are becoming persacuted ? In the case of Simon Mol it would not suprise me if he got away with his crimes because he will shout racism and a goverment overun by polictical correctness will hear it. Is it racist to protect yourself while having sex white,black whatever? of course not its safe sex so with regards to what he says about it being viewed racist to wear a condom with a black man is total rubish. Unless you are in a long term realtionship a condom is standerd issue regards of race religion nationality its Simon mol trying to excuse what he did and some people actually belive it "amazing". So why would you want people like this in your country? Its not racist the facts are all their.

If he intentionally had unprotected sex knowing that he's HIV Positive, then it's a very wrong thing to do.If it's punishable by the Polish Penal Code, then he deserves punishment. What I don't understand is why he leaves Cameroon for greener pastures,then settles in Poland.Of all places, Poland?

The action of Simon Mol is unacceptable and if found guilty, he must be severely punished, but it is unfair for the sin of an individual to be spread on an entire race and on a section of the African continent, as I have read over some blogs. The glaring examples are these ones: http://moderntribalist.blogspot.com/2007/01/cameroonian-poet-and-journalist-exiled.html, http://panf.info/upload/showthread.php?t=1097 . Whatever must have forced Simon Mol, a brilliant writer, the bright hope of the literary renovation of English-speaking Cameroon, to act the way he has done is still beyond comprehension. What is certain is that, he was motivated by none of the logics that I have read on several blogs. It is not also because; he is /was a refugee. For he was not an ordinary refugee, he was a celebrity, supported by the crème de la crème of Poland. He was a holder of a Polish passport, thus making him technically a Polish citizen. I wonder whether he has ever gone through the thick and thin of most refugees in Western Europe.

He was lucky because, he had the support of the elites and journalists of Poland and others. He even had the luxury to practice his trade albeit in a country mostly known for her racists. Professional refugee journalists in Western Europe, seldom receive the aide he got in Poland. Most professional refugee journalists in Western Europe are piecemeal aided by western journalists. Hence to eke out a living, professional refugee journalists in Western Europe must shelve their pens or microphones for menial jobs. Consequently, it would be redundant for him to claim as I have read that, his action was borne out of revenge. The girls who slept with Simon were the new breeds of Polish and Eastern Europeans who defied the prejudices of their land and considered Mol like any other person.

But at present, because of Mol’s ignorance, stupidity or wickedness, (I really don’t know which adjective to use to qualify and classify is ignoble act), integration of foreigners, blacks and Cameroonians in particular, in an already assertive racist and bigot Poland and in the Greater Slavic countries will be slowed, but fortunately, not stopped. That is perhaps why this blogger: http://beatroot.blogspot.com/2007/01/racists-enjoy-mol-hiv-case.html wrote that, racists are having a field day with the Simon Mol HIV case. Simon Mol is a lost to Polish progressive minds and also to English-speaking Cameroonian literary scene in particular and Cameroon in general.

The English-speaking Cameroonians literary scene is still manned by old guards such as Martin Jumbam: http://www.martinjumbam.net/ , active firebrand writers such as Bate Besong: http://www.batebesong.com/ and Mbella Sonne Dipoko. These writers are spoiling for successors and I think, they appreciated Simon, but now, he has let every one down. I was yet to see a luminary English-speaking Cameroonian writer such Mr Mol. He was young, bright and brilliant. Currently, I look at Simon like a devil, he is attractive but malicious. I think it would best for Simon Mol to gather the same courage he allegedly used to spread the virus to apologise for his dishonourable deed. It won’t change the fate of his victims, but will console them and show his human and humane face. Yes, Simon Mol is a human being.

There is another side to Mol’s case, it is a wake up call to those who had put down their shields and were in romps of unprotected sex. It is also a call for sexual abstinence and a return to basic moral rectitude. Finally, it would be best for people to visit the West African state of Cameroon, the original home of Simon Mol. There, they will discover a different set of people with a vibrant academic life, especially in the English-speaking part. For political first hand knowledge of the incredible west African state of Cameroon, home of the legendry Roger Albert Mila, Thomas Nkono and the quintessential Samuel Eto’o Fils, log on to these links: http://www.bakweri.org/2004/03/_the_republic_o.html, http://www.dibussi.com/ and http://eliesmith.blogspot.com/2006/02/celebrating-44-years-of-cameroons.html .

One can well imagine what would happen to an Aids infected Pole who spread his disease among scores of Black women in Cameroon....there would not be enough left of him to put in an eyedropperYes I am a RACIST! SO WHAT? Its disgusting the the authors of this blog are trying to make this human filthbag a victim when this occurred:

"Mol apparently thought that anyone who accused him of being HIV positive was ‘being racist.’ Which, of course, (if he knew that he was already infected - which now seems very possible indeed as he first had a test in 1999 in a refugee camp in Poland - is another example of his capacity for victim based delusions. It seems as though he can’t separate himself and his actions from his position as a black refugee in Poland.

Reith implies Mol yelled at women that even the act of wearing a condom was ‘racist.’

Mol obviously was deliberatly trying to eiother infect or impregnate these women because they were White and he wanted to genetically eliminate Whites by either impregnating them with alien seed or making them die an apalling death. Its not us "racists" that are doing this to cameroonian women . ITS BLACKS THAT ARE DOING IT TO US"If these women had been "Evil racists" they would not be facing a slow death!

Its sad that the Poles are becoming soft, self hating and decadent just like the dying WestPoland is and always has been a White nation.....its for Poles and other Whites, not murderous Negro bisexuals who insist on using our own women to genetically eliminate usHow are our people to survive if our own women dont bear White children? This is horrifying genocide, and the gliberals and Neo-Cons are turning this disease bag into a victim

Our destructive end? Who is responsible for bringing this example of destruction to Poland? Now at least four girls have had their lives totally ruined. But no, that isn’t your concern, you are more concerned about patriots who will use this case as an example why your imposed multi-cultural experiment is dangerous.

Us 'racists' only want to live with our own kind in our lands and mind our own business. How is this a destructive end if we just want to maintain the ethnic makeup of our respective countries? It is you traitors that are bringing destruction as this example, one of countless, shows.

Harry said: "In contrast, in Cameroon, Haiti, and Kenya, men tend to have multiple partners while women tend only to have one. This imbalance has significant public health implications"From the statistical point of view this claim is pure nonsens. Unless men in those countries are predominantly gay/bisexual, this imbalance between genders is impossible. Think first, write later.

These women could not have been decent women. It says a lot about Polish women that they can be so desperate and low to go on one night stands with an illegal immigrant who was a negro. Morals of the lowest dog I say...

No standards, no class, no decency - this female trash (who were unable to find a proper man of their own race are typical of inferior women in Countries with low self esteem and have no pride in the person they are - that they would go with a negro)

.....Going with dogs for some perverted thrill factor is not the basis of proper relationshipo and this rubbish deserves what it gets - death and aids is known to seek out, infect and kill the rubbish elements in society....so its good that these negro luvers who didn't try to better themselves by trying to find a white man or a proper relationship....got what they deserve...good riddance to this trash..!

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PROPOSAL:

My proposal is that I PROVE that AMBUSH CURES HIV/AIDS by giving it to a number of END-STAGE or DRUG-RESISTANT people and the scientific community watches their recovery. This proposal addresses the problem in that I have already outlaid the results to be obtained.

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