Is it any good, is it worth the money? What about taking someone new to shooting or should I teach my gal myself?

Foxtrot3

Nosferatu

03-17-2006, 06:30 PM

Frontsight is run by some of the slimiest people in the gun industry. I never recommend those crooks. You might get some good instruction, but you're giving your money to some serious low-lifes.

Look for someone local to you that is NRA certified. You are likely to get a good 1-on-1 instruction that will be tailored to what you need.

jmz5

03-17-2006, 07:39 PM

Something bad must have happened.

Nosferatu

03-18-2006, 02:17 PM

The cliff notes version:

They sued a friend of mine for allowing users to post feedback on his site. The feedback happened to be negative because they treated people like shit.

They employ some less-than-ethical people who steal others ideas or just copy things from other sources and pass them off as their own. One of them even wrote a book which contained material from the Rangers training manual and called it his own.

So, I have zero respect for these guys. If you take a course from them, take it FWIW, not gospel. They want you to think they have been there, done that. Truth is some of them wern't even enlisted.

jmz5

03-18-2006, 03:14 PM

That sucks, now I see why you hate them.

Foxtrot3

03-20-2006, 02:43 PM

Thats what I needed to know. Thanks guys!!!!

Yes everything on their sight seemed a little too good to be true so I had to check it out with some good people who are interested in the truth of things. :D

Fox3

bl4ckd0g

04-19-2007, 10:28 AM

So they will try to cleanse me of my body thetans while I take a carbine course? I think I'll investigate a few other options.

jshay

04-23-2007, 03:10 AM

Hey Fox,
The posts that I have read on this thread are from some of the heavyweights on this forum, people that I have respect for based on their experience and knowledge, who know more about firearms and the industry that I ever will. But I just wanted to give you my impression as a person that actually took their 4 day defensive handgun course. My girlfriend and I went together as self admitted newbees. We spent from 8 am to sometimes 10 at night going from classes to range, learning how to draw from concealment, shoot-no shoot scenarios, trigger control, malfunctions clearing, legal aspects of personal defense, and night shoots . I found the instruction to professional, friendly, and helpful at all times. The instructors were a mix of military, LEO, and civilian, and no one seemed to be interested in over inflating who they were or what their experiences had been. One of the things that impressed me was that the school seemed interested in teaching skills, and there was no bias against civilians as instructors or students. If a person could master the skills and teach them effectively they could become an instructor, and if you showed a willingness to learn and work for improvement you were not treated less than LEO, or military. The facilities were first rate, and looked brand new. My girlfriend (now ex) felt comfortable the whole time and at the end of the four days, we felt confident enough with our experience to become members and lock in our ability to come back and take more classes. I met everyone from the owner to the check in personnel to pro shop employees, to tens of instructors and at no time did I meet anyone that was anything but helpful and professional. I know there are many great schools around the nation and they may be far better than Frontsight, I don't know because I have not gone to them. This is just one guys impression from one visit, where I had a great experience but I thought you should at least have a first hand report. I would encourage you to take multi day quality courses, wherever you may find them. You will find that the more you learn, the deeper your appreciation for the 2nd amendment and your passion for shooting will become.