I think that might have been the first time I was surprised by this show.

I kinda love that cousin Isabelle just let Mrs Byrd go - you could see in Mrs Byrd's face that she expected her to fold and say she wouldn't take Ethel on. I kinda love how modern(ish) cousin Isabelle is.

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I kinda love that cousin Isabelle just let Mrs Byrd go - you could see in Mrs Byrd's face that she expected her to fold and say she wouldn't take Ethel on. I kinda love how modern(ish) cousin Isabelle is.

I thought that was funny. And yeah, Mrs. Byrd was bluffing. Whoopsie.

I like how prostitution is transmissible through contact, and how Ethel will obviously jump the bones of basically any male who goes near the house. *BAM* HUMPED!

And C&S called the eclampsia thing as soon as they listed the symptoms... That was pretty rough.

The preview makes it look like Lard Grantham gets to sleep on the couch for the next couple of years, too. Whoops.

I really love the connection between Lard Grantham and Matthew. Like a son he never had. It's sweet.

Yes!

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I kinda love that cousin Isabelle just let Mrs Byrd go - you could see in Mrs Byrd's face that she expected her to fold and say she wouldn't take Ethel on. I kinda love how modern(ish) cousin Isabelle is.

They could've left a bit of tension for next week by leaving us to believe something might happen to Mr Bates that would prevent him going home. But instead, they showed him back at Downton! Also, I'm all for Ms O'Brien getting back at Thomas, but using Jimmy that way is super shitty.

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They could've left a bit of tension for next week by leaving us to believe something might happen to Mr Bates that would prevent him going home. But instead, they showed him back at Downton! Also, I'm all for Ms O'Brien getting back at Thomas, but using Jimmy that way is super shitty.

Yeah, I want him to get his, but the way Ms O'Brien manipulated him into taking that step (and therefore essentially ruining his life) is disproportionate to the offense caused (which I think was just that he wouldn't help Alfred).

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Yeah, I want him to get his, but the way Ms O'Brien manipulated him into taking that step (and therefore essentially ruining his life) is disproportionate to the offense caused (which I think was just that he wouldn't help Alfred).

Miss O'Brien did cause Lady Grantham to fall and have a miscarriage that one time because she thought that maybe she was going to be replaced. She's not really into proportionate response.

So is Lady Mary doing something to avoid getting pregnant? It seems like they're playing it that way. The only thing is that I have a hard time believing that the doctor would give it (diaphragm? rhythm method info?) to her without telling her husband. This is 1920-ish after all.

O'Brien went over the edge (but as has been noted, she's prone to that). I think Thomas' two sins in her eyes were not helping Alfred and making Cora think O'Brien was plotting to leave. Neither merits a prison term.

And now that Bates is out of prison I can take an interest in him again. Yay!

So is Lady Mary doing something to avoid getting pregnant? It seems like they're playing it that way. The only thing is that I have a hard time believing that the doctor would give it (diaphragm? rhythm method info?) to her without telling her husband. This is 1920-ish after all.

My interpretation is that they're trying to make us think she can't have children. She's said some things about how much she wants to start a family (not just to Matthew), so I think one or the other of them is infertile (until a future Xmas episode in which she miraculously becomes pregnant).

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My interpretation is that they're trying to make us think she can't have children. She's said some things about how much she wants to start a family (not just to Matthew), so I think one or the other of them is infertile (until a future Xmas episode in which she miraculously becomes pregnant).

She is called Mary. They can be visiting Daisy's farm and she would have to give birth in the stable. Then they could all go to the beach and Branson could jump over a shark on a surfboard.

I think one of them is infertile as well. Thomas should run away and become Doctor Who's new assistant for a few episodes.

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My interpretation is that they're trying to make us think she can't have children. She's said some things about how much she wants to start a family (not just to Matthew), so I think one or the other of them is infertile (until a future Xmas episode in which she miraculously becomes pregnant).

She is called Mary. They can be visiting Daisy's farm and she would have to give birth in the stable. Then they could all go to the beach and Branson could jump over a shark on a surfboard.

And she'll get mystically knocked up via a visitation from the ghost of the dude of that guy who died in her bed, thereby consolidating Kaiser Wilhelm's victory over Matthew's willy!

I know it's how people behaved at the time, but it's so annoying when they use euphemisms for everything and can't talk about things with each other. I wouldn't dream of keeping surgery a secret from my husband, and I would certainly tell him what was wrong with me, if for no other reason than so that he knows why he needs to leave me the hell alone.

Also, I totally called the soap thing.

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Yeah, and Lady Mary pulling the "don't you trust me?" card on Matthew after hiding the fact she'd had surgery for several weeks and letting him think he was infertile was just a little bit naughty. She's too much of a writers' favourite to suffer any consequences, though.

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