When I was a little kid, I had a pair of Wranglers with black warp threads, black weft yarns, and black stitching. I didn't know the model name or number, but they were slim fit. They probably cost less than $20 and were nowhere near the quality of what we discuss here, but I really liked them at the time.

They ended up fading pretty good, I wore them for 2 or 3 years consecutively. Wish I had hung onto them, but I think they got donated once I grew out of them.

Im still on Levi stf's. I got three pairs, one ive worn for about 7 months and they have faded just as well as apc's do. I got a new black and indogo pair last month and the indigos are starting to show some fading. The black pair show no fading at all.

can't remember the first pair as a kid...but the first raw pair was the obvious apc new standard...bought a 30 waist so i didn't size down...who was I to know that they stretch out like a mother fucker...?