Basically, unless they're flat out lying. Didn't they almost outright confirm that MOP wasn't an expansion before it's release? Something along the lines of claiming the community was blowing it out of proportion / trying to brush it off as some sort of smaller product.

After that I've started being sceptical of blizz when it comes to confirming / denying things related to future content.

actually the heroic ending of ragnaros was classed as him actually dying, with malfurion using vine to pull him out of his lava toilet (*snorts and sniggers*) until he finally dies and melts.

I meant MC Rag. Heroic Firelands Rag does actually die, but his MC form was defeated long ago.

You can see Garrosh beaten? Or dead? With the new vision of Time I don't really know if he's surely DEAD.

You can't see him beaten or dead yet, BUT I've already linked a post earlier in the thread where the developers confirm that Garrosh does indeed die in the Siege.

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Originally Posted by Nagassh

Basically, unless they're flat out lying. Didn't they almost outright confirm that MOP wasn't an expansion before it's release? Something along the lines of claiming the community was blowing it out of proportion / trying to brush it off as some sort of smaller product.

After that I've started being sceptical of blizz when it comes to confirming / denying things related to future content.

They didn't outright deny it, they used tricky wording along the lines of 'Anything we do with Pandas USUALLY relates to non-game related stuff.'

Which, in truth, meant nothing. They tried to dodge a bullet when people blew up over MoP without lying about it. In this case, there's no tricky wording. They stated 'Garrosh Hellscream dies in the Siege of Orgrimmar.' and they confirmed it with a 'Yes.'

Garrosh lives and is visited by Anduin who will no doubt make efforts to rehabilitate him.

Best expansion.

Yeah... I'm not so single-minded as you. In my mind there is Garrosh who was linked with Yr'shaarj, kept in one Arcane prison, so his powers are leashed.
He united himself with an Old God. He is to corruption the same Arthas was for death.

That scene might even contain the explanation of why the Titans couldn't kill the Old Gods. In parallel of why the mortals couldn't kill Garrosh without risking a further evil.

Yeah... I'm not so single-minded as you. In my mind there is Garrosh who was linked with Yr'shaarj, kept in one Arcane prison, so his powers are leashed.
He united himself with an Old God. He is to corruption the same Arthas was for death.

That scene might even contain the explanation of why the Titans couldn't kill the Old Gods. In parallel of why the mortals couldn't kill Garrosh without risking a further evil.

None of that precludes Anduin trying to rehabilitate him. Anduin's a nice guy, he'd make the attempt.

It's an interesting thought for Garrosh to become the vessel of Y'Shaarj's power - so far everything indicates that it vanishes completely after his defeat, but maybe it endures.

They stated 'Garrosh Hellscream dies in the Siege of Orgrimmar.' and they confirmed it with a 'Yes.'

"Your Warchief... was seduced by the Dark Side of the Sha. He ceased to be Garrosh Hellscream and "became" Sha-man. When that happened, the good man who was your Warchief was destroyed. So what I told you was true... from a certain point of view."