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Re: Class and Level Geekery IX: the thread levels up again!

In this comic, Malack casts Harm and strikes Nale. Then, he casts Quickened Inflict, and misses Nale, but is still holding the charge, and Malack's turn ends. At the end of Malack's turn, Nale is wielding a Wand in one hand and the other is free. Sometime between Panels 4 and 5, Nale draws his sword. Note that a full panel is used for Nale to put his Wand away. Then he casts Dimension Door and escapes, all before Malack can get in a turn.

Typically stowing an item such as a wand is a move action. So is drawing a sword (unless you have +1 BAB, then you can draw it as part of movement). Dimension Door is a standard-action spell. For Nale to do this all in one turn he has to have Quick Draw to make drawing the sword a Free Action, right?

Re: Class and Level Geekery IX: the thread levels up again!

Necromancy has been listed as one of V's barred schools for some time.

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Re: Class and Level Geekery IX: the thread levels up again!

Haley has leveled up several times since she said that her Bluff skill was maxed out back in strip #412. We do not know if she continued to spend points on Bluff. (It seems likely that she would, but we do not know it with for sure).

Maybe her stats should change from 'maxed out Bluff skill' to 'at least 13 ranks in Bluff' since we know she was at least 10th level at the time.

Re: Class and Level Geekery IX: the thread levels up again!

Originally Posted by Kurald Galain

Both are created by casting a regular spell on a regular object. He already possessed a bouncy ball and a (NOT AVAILABLE AT YOUR SECURITY CLEARANCE), then he cast the Symbol spell and (CLASSIFIED) on them, respectively. Neither requires crafting.

I wonder where Xykon got the bouncy ball. I like to imagine him standing outside of a supermarket feeding quarters into a capsule machine trying to get the prize he wanted.

Re: Class and Level Geekery IX: the thread levels up again!

While I am convinced we will see a "God Banjo" at the end of the story, we still have not seen them as characters.
So far they are only puppets and imaginated concepts and as such have no class or level.

Re: Class and Level Geekery IX: the thread levels up again!

Originally Posted by Math_Mage

Puts X at 18, +/- 2 levels, given standard duration. But this was before Rich started throwing around epic spells, and before he wrote SoD, so X could have gotten a retroactive power-up in the meantime. Too, a moderately escapable forcecage may have reduced duration as well as reduced anchoring. So, nothing definite.

Rich started throwing around epic spells at the end of the battle; when Xykon used the "hippy headband" to cast Cloister.

The Xykon and Miko "exchange of information" would have been long after he upped Xykon's level, if indeed that's what he did.

Similarly Xykon's talk with Roy would have been long after that. Or in other words, Xykon doesn't give reliable information about his level.

That's over and above the problem of him actually having a reason to lie, i.e. his plan was to let Miko escape and run back to her crew of Paladins. Letting her subtly know he was level 16-20 simply can't be taken at face value.

Re: Class and Level Geekery IX: the thread levels up again!

Originally Posted by ReaderAt2046

You forgot to do character listings for Banjo and Giggles!

Giggles has appeared in-comic too infrequently to be a candidate for this thread.

Banjo, on the other hand, may be a viable addition. However, can we say anything about him from a RAW perspective, more precise than "he might be a deity but we're not sure"? I don't believe it is RAW that any character with 100 worshippers automatically becomes a god (because if it were that easy, Tarquin would have pulled it off already).

I'm away from my OOTS books at the moment, but perhaps somebody could check the first few pages (with recaps and character backgrounds) to see if anything definitive is stated about our dear puppet.

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Re: Class and Level Geekery IX: the thread levels up again!

In addition, Xykon might overestimate Roy's level in that conversation and as such he has much more levels on Roy than he estimates. This talk is not reliable at all.

Indeed. Roy did manage to destroy Xykon's body after all, which probably inflated Xykon's view of Roy's power level somewhat.

This was probably brought up at some point in the past, but searching a bit didn't turn anything up so I figured I'd ask. In SoD, when Xykon gets turned into a Lich, there's the 7 Million Dollar man parody page. It lists Xykon as being:

Heavy Duty: 16d12

Normal Duty: 12d8

What does this refer to? Are there different versions of lich? 12d8 seems awfully low for something as powerful as a lich.

Re: Class and Level Geekery IX: the thread levels up again!

Originally Posted by Crusher

This was probably brought up at some point in the past, but searching a bit didn't turn anything up so I figured I'd ask. In SoD, when Xykon gets turned into a Lich, there's the 7 Million Dollar man parody page. It lists Xykon as being:

Heavy Duty: 16d12

Normal Duty: 12d8

What does this refer to? Are there different versions of lich? 12d8 seems awfully low for something as powerful as a lich.

I believe that 12d8 "intermittent duty" refers to Redcloak in some way, since it's his job to keep Xykon on full HP. Neither Harm nor any of the Inflict spells work like that though. Maybe it refers to Redcloak's hit dice at the time?

Last edited by zimmerwald1915; 2012-11-17 at 10:03 AM.

Milk Chocolate Justiciar of the Haley Fanclub

I hate a song that makes you think that you are not any good. … Because you are too old or too young or too fat or too slim. Too ugly or too this or too that. … I am out to sing songs that will prove to you that this is your world … no matter what color, what size you are, how you are built, I am out to sing the songs that make you take pride in yourself and in your work.
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