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Situational song! A woman singing about all her Ex's and her Oh's who keep coming back to her and wont leave her!

She keeps complaining :..(actually I wonder why she keeps complaining..when she has so many men desiring her!LOL)

One, two, three, they gonna run back to me 'Cause I'm the best baby that they never gotta keep One, two, three, they gonna run back to me They always wanna come, but they never wanna leaveEx's and the oh, oh, oh's they haunt me Like gho-o-osts they want me to make 'em all, all, all They won't let go Ex's and oh's

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Women who have been repressed for a long time suddenly realising what has been done to them by husband and society are expressing their right to be free . They would like to explore ways which can give them maximum pleasure and satisfaction.It is just an expression of desire to be equal to men and not be their slaves anymore.They would like to in many ways imagine if not act considering themselves equal to men and feel delighted at that prospect.How many can get over the years of repression and act with courage to assert their newly acquired rights is still open to question. Their years of conditioning in a male dominated society still makes them wary of trying to feel free.Will the new generation get the courage to break free? In india it is difficult. They can escape to freer society of the west and the US to get a taste of equality and freedom to exercise their choice.

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Their years of conditioning in a male dominated society still makes them wary of trying to feel free.Will the new generation get the courage to break free? In india it is difficult. (#post23)

Look at these Aj ki Nari - chances are bright!

When 19-year-old Aranya Johar wrote and performed her poem, 'A Brown Girl's Guide to Gender' on Women's Day, she wasn't expecting it to go viral. Written in half an hour before her board exams, it started on a personal note: Johar recalling the misogyny of a boy telling her that men didn't want to hear about menstruation/vaginas bleeding. Yet, its focus on everyday sexual objectification, violence against women and male privilege struck a chord with many across the world.

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The argument that woman for pleasure and thirst are free to rely on out-of-relationships (and hence need not care about chastity) is actually misogynic in nature.

It is again exploitation of women by those men looking to use women as a commodity for their immediate needs, who would want to throw them off after their needs are over. People who propagate commodotization of women under the garb of their sexual liberation are indeed misogynic.

Chastity is common for man and woman in a relationship.

If a woman or man want to walk out of that relationship for want of sexual (or economic or emotional) freedom, they should be welcome to do so, with all honesty and transparency. They should have the maturity to select their next choices and be truthful to those choices.

There are always exceptions, but exceptions are not the rule.

In sanatana dharma, in brahmadeya marriage, a man and woman are supposed to become a friend first. It is their friendship that lays the foundation for their sexual interaction. As they discover more and more about themselves, they evolve to have their own relationship that is not defined by similar relationships others have.

When friendship lays the foundation of marriage, the question of chastity does not even arise. True friends know what each other want/desire and get that for them or bear with their shortcomings. They decide what they can bear and what they cannot. Society does not decide it for them.

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The argument that woman for pleasure and thirst are free to rely on out-of-relationships (and hence need not care about chastity) is actually misogynic in nature.

It is again exploitation of women by those men looking to use women as a commodity for their immediate needs, who would want to throw them off after their needs are over. People who propagate commodotization of women under the garb of their sexual liberation are indeed misogynic.

Chastity is common for man and woman in a relationship.

If a woman or man want to walk out of that relationship for want of sexual (or economic or emotional) freedom, they should be welcome to do so, with all honesty and transparency. They should have the maturity to select their next choices and be truthful to those choices.

There are always exceptions, but exceptions are not the rule.

In sanatana dharma, in brahmadeya marriage, a man and woman are supposed to become a friend first. It is their friendship that lays the foundation for their sexual interaction. As they discover more and more about themselves, they evolve to have their own relationship that is not defined by similar relationships others have.

When friendship lays the foundation of marriage, the question of chastity does not even arise. True friends know what each other want/desire and get that for them or bear with their shortcomings. They decide what they can bear and what they cannot. Society does not decide it for them.

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Ofcourse we are endowed with will and consciousness to decide what we want to do.

There is a dharma, laws of universe, that gives sustenance. Those who follow the dharma, the laws of universe, sustain and evolve. Those who do not perish.

If man 'uses' woman and throws her out, a woman 'uses' man and throws him out, then such a society does not evolve.

It perishes.

Not kidding, but if electrons get bound to nucleus following some laws of Universe, then we have an atom and we have further evolution. If they have remained apart, just using as and when needed, not obeying the laws of universe, then no evolution.

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I would not like to use the terms like Chastity, adultery which are freely used here. There is nothing holy about chastity and nothing unholy about adultery in the context of an individual known only to the involved souls. If they are to come to the public domain, then it affects the society. and society will disapprove of it. While the individual is concerned about only the next few years, society is about centuries.

So, having said that, let us take a look at the woman sexuality. A woman has as much right as the man to be proud of her sexuality. She has to be aware of her body, system and its demands. She has also to satisfy those demands to live happily.

Since time immemorial there has been instances of woman sexuality expressing itself boldly and loudly. We have instances of women unsatisfied with what was available within the bounds of a marriage looking for relief and looking for finding their momentary heaven on earth outside the marriage.

There are women who have met with their accident of a marriage with a man whose interests and passions are outlandish or whose interests and passions are just less than a zero. This results in a life which becomes a drudgery. Every day dawns as the dreaded arrival of another tonne of burden that has to be lived out.

There are also women who have to handle every day and night a husband who is sold on opiates and alcohol. Such women if they happen to be very sensitive types would certainly look for alternative solutions.

There are women who are intellectuals or brilliant artists whose sharpness of intellect or the creativity that comes with arts meeting with totally insensitive morons for husbands. Such women are keenly aware of their sexuallity and dares to break traditional barriers and get free.

Every such woman can not become a member of a car key club and get relief from a blind date.

So such deliberately chosen accidents do happen and will continue to happen.

The fiction drama of Kovalan, Kannagi and Madhavi which has been discussed here is also a story of such a heart-rending dilemma of a woman and man . Madhavi was a multifaceted personality and was a very accomplished young woman and Kovalan had a common frequency with her to oscillate. It was waiting to happen and it happened. Madhavi as well as Kovalan found something in each other which they could not find in others. That is briefly the story and the rest of the narrative is just drama.

So let us get out of the chastity/adultery mindset and look at it as a genuine problem of the involved pathetic men and women.

At the society level of course a marriage is sacrosanct. We can not have adultery within the marriage as normal. Then we will have to discuss a whole lot of other similar things here including sodomy and that is prohibited.