Is everyone here saying that Ki-society techniques haven't actually got the internal development factor? If so then... what Koichi Tohei tried to do in teaching shin-shin toitsu... was a failure?

I'm terribly confused. It's like being in a forest, and everyone keeps pointing to these few distant peaks, high level sensei and chinese masters... but when I ask a straightforward question like "I have two paths in front of me, ki-aikido and taiji, will either or both of these take me 1/3 of the way up the mountain" ... nobody wants to answer the question.

Go with the Ki-Aikido. It's going to depend on the teacher's abilities, but my experience would be that you have a greater chance of getting *something* from the Ki Aikido teacher than you would from most "Tai Chi Teachers".

Ki-Aikido has now become something slightly different than O-Sensei's Aikido, but *some* of the practitioners are definitely performing what I would call acceptable ki skills (but they can do better!!! ).