Difficult year end discussions

Djokovic is most likely to be number 1 at the end of the year (and I am a Federer fan saying this) - but what if he doesn't win the WTF and Federer or Murray does. In fact what if he gets to number one simply because he gets to finals at Shanghai and Paris and doesn't win them or the WTF and Murray wins.

Then how many tournaments would Djokovic have won this year? 4? Would he deserve to be number 1 for the year?

not sure why another thread on this topic. there are 2 of them already going.

However, whoever wins more points is a deserving #1. Rankings are more about consistency than just pure winning. this is not WTA. so you need to focus on a big picture and look at all tournaments played during 52 weeks.

Djokovic is most likely to be number 1 at the end of the year (and I am a Federer fan saying this) - but what if he doesn't win the WTF and Federer or Murray does. In fact what if he gets to number one simply because he gets to finals at Shanghai and Paris and doesn't win them or the WTF and Murray wins.

Then how many tournaments would Djokovic have won this year? 4? Would he deserve to be number 1 for the year?

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Yeah let's count points only for the win in finals, not for the loss in final or SF, QF

not sure why another thread on this topic. there are 2 of them already going.

However, whoever wins more points is a deserving #1. Rankings are more about consistency than just pure winning. this is not WTA. so you need to focus on a big picture and look at all tournaments played during 52 weeks.

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So wozniacki was a deserving #1 for two years, is that what you're saying? Im not comparing woz to nole, but a player doesnt just deserve the top spot for the points he/she gains, its more about where you gain them, and if you win majors.

So wozniacki was a deserving #1 for two years, is that what you're saying? Im not comparing woz to nole, but a player doesnt just deserve the top spot for the points he/she gains, its more about where you gain them, and if you win majors.

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you can not compare the ATP with the WTA at all. The WTA is just a big mess, so your Woz argument is very weak. I refuse to watch all of that screaming going on and the WTA is NOT tennis. Give me back Evert/Navratilova, Seles/Graf and we'll talk.

We are talking about 4 top guys who managed to win slams, masters plus other big tournaments this year. Not even close to Princess Serena or Clijsters who hardly play any other tournaments except slams. I won't buy their 'injury problems', ever as it's all just faking and being spoiled.

Djokovic is most likely to be number 1 at the end of the year (and I am a Federer fan saying this) - but what if he doesn't win the WTF and Federer or Murray does. In fact what if he gets to number one simply because he gets to finals at Shanghai and Paris and doesn't win them or the WTF and Murray wins.

Then how many tournaments would Djokovic have won this year? 4? Would he deserve to be number 1 for the year?

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I think any player who has won a Grand Slam tournament in a certain year would make a deserving world # 1 for that year.