There are so many, I don't want to list them all, but I'll start with John Mayer. He sounds like he went to Target and bought the biggest bag of cotton balls available, crammed them into his mouth and started "singing"..... Terrible.

Anyone whose primary source of beat, rhythm, etc. is sampled from music previously released by another artist.Anyone who relies on someone else outside of their band or group to write their music. Anyone whose first song released was a cover or rise to popularity came as the result of a cover (Exception: The Black Crowes).

Well, I dislike pretty much all pop music, most "alternative," all country, and most R&B/hip-hop. But because I just tend to avoid that kind of music, I never know what artists are popular and worth mention.

But I will absolutely agree with Dave Matthews. Everything about him and his music is just awful.

I don't like John Mayer's pop songs, but he is an excellent Blues guitarist and very reverential of Blues standards.

Case in point - takes Jimi's song, does it in Jimi's style, and makes it his own. Granted, half of his audience leavesto powder their nose when he breaks out one of these songs, but they wouldn't appreciate it anyway.

Yeah unfortunately John Mayer is a smokin guitar player no doubt about it.I would still love to take hammers to his hands,dude is annoying and rubs me the wrong way.Thank god for Joe Bonamossa because he kind of stole the whole new blues king annointing.

Speaking of shredding, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like its still the same guys that we associate with shredding are still "the" guys. There's nobody new on the scene. Anytime there's something on about guitar playing its either Slash, Satriani, Clapton, Vai, Santana or some other 70's-80's guitar guru. No wonder the young people don't listen to it, its shit their dad's listen to.

By the way f*ck Moron 5, Coldplay, Lil Wayne, One Direction, Foo Fighters and that ga damned Gangnam Style mofo.

rastahawk wrote:Speaking of shredding, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like its still the same guys that we associate with shredding are still "the" guys. There's nobody new on the scene. Anytime there's something on about guitar playing its either Slash, Satriani, Clapton, Vai, Santana or some other 70's-80's guitar guru. No wonder the young people don't listen to it, its shit their dad's listen to.

rastahawk wrote:Speaking of shredding, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like its still the same guys that we associate with shredding are still "the" guys. There's nobody new on the scene. Anytime there's something on about guitar playing its either Slash, Satriani, Clapton, Vai, Santana or some other 70's-80's guitar guru. No wonder the young people don't listen to it, its shit their dad's listen to.

rastahawk wrote:Speaking of shredding, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like its still the same guys that we associate with shredding are still "the" guys. There's nobody new on the scene. Anytime there's something on about guitar playing its either Slash, Satriani, Clapton, Vai, Santana or some other 70's-80's guitar guru. No wonder the young people don't listen to it, its shit their dad's listen to.

By the way f*ck Moron 5, Coldplay, Lil Wayne, One Direction, Foo Fighters and that ga damned Gangnam Style mofo.

You can blame this on the hip hop, sampling video game generation. People are too lazy to actually pick up an instrument and have the dicipline to takes to become a master.

The sad thing is, there are probably thousands out there that have the ability but don't even realize it because it is so much easier to sample and scratch rather than actually develope talent.

rastahawk wrote:Speaking of shredding, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like its still the same guys that we associate with shredding are still "the" guys. There's nobody new on the scene. Anytime there's something on about guitar playing its either Slash, Satriani, Clapton, Vai, Santana or some other 70's-80's guitar guru. No wonder the young people don't listen to it, its shit their dad's listen to.

By the way f*ck Moron 5, Coldplay, Lil Wayne, One Direction, Foo Fighters and that ga damned Gangnam Style mofo.

You can blame this on the hip hop, sampling video game generation. People are too lazy to actually pick up an instrument and have the dicipline to takes to become a master.

The sad thing is, there are probably thousands out there that have the ability but don't even realize it because it is so much easier to sample and scratch rather than actually develope talent.

Look DUNCE, I actually teach drums and guitar. And THESE are the things my young students say to me, this is not the way I feel, but it comes from their mouths. Thank gawd at least they have enough energy and smarts to keep music moving forward.

Not only was the album a critically acclaimed masterpiece and hugely influential (although some [see: me] would argue negatively) on the future of music, but between Infinite, Slim Shady & Marshall Mathers, even the Eminem Show, Em was one of the most, if not the most, skilled rappers & lyricists in the game. He was rapping circles around just about everybody between 98 & 02 or 03.

dunceface wrote:I understand your pining for the good ol' days, but its called musical evolution and I'm sorry it makes you sad

But he cant even pine for the good ol' days. I watched a doc this week about classical drummers from the 30's and 40's, it's LIGHTYEARS beyond what any rock or Largent currently does with drums. Light years in skill and complexity.

Of course, I'm not a douchebag, and assume the difference is simply because of Largent's skill-set, not evolving tastes in music. But, drummers from the 30's and 40's big band eras would FOR SURE think Largent's lil pounding to Cars songs as corny and trite.

dunceface wrote:I understand your pining for the good ol' days, but its called musical evolution and I'm sorry it makes you sad

Haha me comparing scratching to drumming pissed him off so bad.

The thing is, I don't even entirely disagree with some of what he's saying, but his inability to recognize where he's misinformed, ignorant and basically talking out of his rear end makes him look like a complete jackass. The rear end of a jackass even.

Not only was the album a critically acclaimed masterpiece and hugely influential (although some [see: me] would argue negatively) on the future of music, but between Infinite, Slim Shady & Marshall Mathers, even the Eminem Show, Em was one of the most, if not the most, skilled rappers & lyricists in the game. He was rapping circles around just about everybody between 98 & 02 or 03.

But, but, Zeb, music has NO PLACE for storytellers. No one appreciates Dylan, Cash, Williams Sr, Merle for their stories. They love them for their musical insturment prowess. I mean, no way the aforementioned would be rappers if they came out today, no WAY. The message was secondary to their insturment work.