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Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

Originally Posted by Lord Painz

This world we live on now is like a test for you and me, this world is ran but santan. Heaven is peacefully, makes a lot of sense when you think about it, there will never be true peace on the earth wild we are still being tested.

I often hear this thing you re saying. And i always give this answer.

Give me the proof that heaven exist, that this world is nothing but a test. The life right now is real. The pain you feel is real. The love from your friends and family is real. No one likes to feel the pain. Everyone love peace. Without a cause there is no hate in this world. So don't say that we are in a test. When we die, everything is over. We are just a form of life. There is no heaven no hell and yeah no god.

True peace yeah will never come on the earth. However instead of believing and leaving it to god, we should try to do something. Don't get me wrong, but if you look in a way, one of the main cause for war and hatred in this world is also because of God.

Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

Yes I believe in GOD. Reason being I've had far to many occurrences in my life when It was nearly impossible for me to survive.
1. when I was born my body was dead for about 30 seconds, then I came back after my dad prayed on the spot. (Born In a refugee camp kakuma)
2.1 year later I caught malaria Gardia and Typhoid all at the same time. I survived.
3. When I was 1 and 2 months old the doctor at the refugee camp gave me a needle in the wrong spot on my leg and I couldn't walk. I went to a church conference with my dad 3 months after this, and was prayed for I stood up and not walked but ran.
4.My family almost died crossing borders to leave the refugee camp and come to kenya we lived.
5. about 6 years later my family was robbed by robbers my mom has a gun pointed to her head, they didn't kill her.
6. Finally after all this I made it to Canada when I was 8.

There is absolutely no way all these events happened by chance in my opinion, and that's why I believe in GOD

Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

So let me begin by saying im an athiest.(so you kno where this is going) Alright so after reading alot of the posts, ive come to find that most to all the people who believe in god do because they have a hard time understanding what scientists are saying. they say what they say because they have tested it for years, not a day and their done, even when they find out the answer they keep doing it till it is perfect. im sorry to say this but religion is a chain on the hands of the people who cant live on there own and the people who cant control themselves. Most people who are athiest have a good grasp on life and live to leave a mark on humanity or just to live. to tell you truth if i was god and i can see everything, i would not have made the devil, i will not have my people guessing about me. i will be there to guide them by talking to them face to face and not pull the " im so great ur eyes will melt bullshit". There will be no dought that im real so people like me wont say these things. but im not god and never will be because as a human i believe that were better than any god WE CREATE because most of us know our mistakes and try to fix them the best way we can, we can understand each other( unlike the gods of religion who wants to send you to hell the first time you dought him while not even knowing its his own fault). WHAT IM BASICLY SAYING IS BELIEVE IN YOURSELFE BECAUSE U MAKE YOUR CHILD(OR FUTURE CHILD), U RASIE THEM THROUGH THICK AND THIN WITH UR OWN STRENGHT. DO NOT DOWN GRADE UR STRENGTH BECAUSE SOCIETY SAYS U WIIL GET NOWHERE WITHOUT A GOD. YOU ARE YOUR OWN GOD!!!!!!

Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

I do not believe in god.

I have never had any evidence for "it's" existence presented to me.
Plus the laws the physics dictate our every day life and they always have. These laws can already explain how you, I, the earth, all other planets, and all other galaxies were made.

Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

Originally Posted by Tsujan9484

I often hear this thing you re saying. And i always give this answer.

Give me the proof that heaven exist, that this world is nothing but a test. The life right now is real. The pain you feel is real. The love from your friends and family is real. No one likes to feel the pain. Everyone love peace. Without a cause there is no hate in this world. So don't say that we are in a test. When we die, everything is over. We are just a form of life. There is no heaven no hell and yeah no god.

True peace yeah will never come on the earth. However instead of believing and leaving it to god, we should try to do something. Don't get me wrong, but if you look in a way, one of the main cause for war and hatred in this world is also because of God.

Everyone should just try to be practical.

Believe me I see where you coming from in a lot of ways, I also wanted to change this world by fighting in the Army to try bring peace on this earth, but the true is Im not God but having faith and believing one day all my faith will pay off. When I was young I had a lot of same beliefs as you but seeing someone die right in front of me and having the chance to talk to the people from different countries. There many different ways people view the word peace. srry for the delay in my response

Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

I do believe...It's highly logical that there must be a most supreme being who can do anything anytime...Because we humans are just fine creatures and creature is referred from word meaning created...which means that we just doesn't by chance came into existence and suddenly the atmosphere of the planet where we appeared became suitable for our lifestyle...

There IS a supreme one who first created universe and THEN us...
and to ask where that ONE came from is nonsense...if there's any answer then it'd be asked that HOW THAT PLACE WHERE HE CAME FROM CAME INTO BEING and then it will become a chain...

Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

Originally Posted by Simplified

Over the past years I have done research on certain subjects.

These things include body anatomy, cells, environment, and just how complex the universe and everything in it is. In my mind, there is no possible way that someone or something can think up all of this. Take the human body for example. It took us so much time, experiments, and hard work to figure out how we function, yet I would argue that 90% of the population today do not know the basics of how we function. All of the molecules, structures, and processes our body contains, cannot be thought up by an entity imo. Of course, this is only one brief example of how complex things are in the world we live in.

Also, I came to the conclusion that I do not believe in a god or higher power because I cannot hear, see, feel, or sense them in any way. All religion is, is faith. Faith is described as a belief with no solid proof, such as religion. For me, that is not nearly enough. I refuse to live my life by these rules that this apparent "god" set up for me. An example of rules would be the 10 commandments.

Then there's the bible, for example, which many people think of as proof.
Nobody can come up with an author of the bible. Nobody can verify the events of it. But, on the other end, nobody can say it isn't true and present solid evidence.

This is why religion is always a touchy subject. Science has yet to disprove it, and the religion itself such as Christianity or the Jewish faith have not shown proof.

One more thing:
The idea I hate the most about most religions, is that they condemn people who do not believe. They are influenced by "leaders" of their religion (bishop, for example) not to have any contact with atheists. If there is a god, heaven and hell, and all the stuff that goes along with those, then what does their religion have to do with them being a good person?

Done ranting.

^ edit, I lied.

I'll leave with a rhetorical question, that I assure you, you cannot rationally answer:

If God created the universe, humans, cells, energy, etc....
...who created God?

I might not be very good at this, but bear with me.
Ok, you believe human minds are limited which is very much true. Yes, human minds are limited and the universe (the creation) is very much complex. Our mind might say that, "everything must have a begining and an end", "everything must have scientific proof".etc. But can this be true? Or can this be applied to "everything"? No. Lets take some examples:
1. Numbers - what is the lowest number, or the highest number? Its infinite.
2. Universe - where is the end of universe? How lengthy is it? Its infinite.

This proves the existence of things that does not have an end. Similarly, God does not have a begining nor an end but exists. In other words, God exists always. So He wasn't created but is the Creator... He was un-created because he was the creator or everything else that exist.

You heard about Black holes? Inside it no time exists. And it breaks the "Law of Physics", which implies that, everything cannot be scientifically proved, or everything does not have a scientific explanation.

Among the religions and Books you mentioned I don't see Quran, which reflects that you are not aware of it. Why not read a "good" english translation of Quran, or check-out what it says? Well, you won't know it unless you read and understand. I quarantee you, you will find all the answers regarding, life, creation, purpose, existence of God, right and wrong, equalness, logic, history, law, scientic miracles, prophecies.etc. trust me. Check out even for once.
Note that the examples I mentioned is not from Quran "directly", but rather "indirectly"..

Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

Originally Posted by Mante

I might not be very good at this, but bear with me.
Ok, you believe human minds are limited which is very much true. Yes, human minds are limited and the universe (the creation) is very much complex. Our mind might say that, "everything must have a begining and an end", "everything must have scientific proof".etc. But can this be true? Or can this be applied to "everything"? No. Lets take some examples:
1. Numbers - what is the lowest number, or the highest number? Its infinite.
2. Universe - where is the end of universe? How lengthy is it? Its infinite.

This proves the existence of things that does not have an end. Similarly, God was existed in "reachless" begining and exists in present and will exist in the "eternal" end. In other words, God exists always. So He wasn't created but is the Creator... He was un-created because he was the creator or everythis else that exist.

Among the religions and Books you mentioned I don't see Quran, reflects that you are not aware of it. Why not read a "good" english translation of Quran, or check-out what it says? Well, you won't know it unless you read and understand. I quarantee you, you will find all the answers regarding, life, creation, purpose, existence of God, right and wrong, equalness, logic, history, scientic miracles, prophecies.etc. trust me. Check out even for once.
Note that the examples I mentioned is not from Quran "directly", but rather "indirectly"..

so wat ur saying is god is created nor destroyed, which means god is energy cause energy is created nor destroyed just past on....... so god is energy and energy is god. and by saying that energy is the creator and energy was the main part of the big band.

Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

I beleive in God............ for some reasons evolution theory doesn't seem to make any sense to me. The earth and human beings are too complex to be some kind of mistake and the proof of God's existence is everywhere... you'll definitely find proof if you keep an open mind.

Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

Well lets hear what our boy Einstein had to say : "Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble."- Albert Einstein. I'm not atheist, nor do I believe in God. I adhere to the truth of reality itself; one thinks of God as a refuge for one who fears reality. Rather to me the conventional view of God was created by the human mind as the most perfect, omnipotent, unique, omniscient being that could ever be conceived of. To be logical about the big bang is to know that there are black holes; but also white holes. In astrophysics, white holes are the opposite, they eject energy and raw matter from nothing. As black holes reduce matter into nothing, white holes do the opposite. But as much as scientists think they know; were they there at the big bang? I'm being logical, i trully think there is a balance between spirituality and science, called philosophy lollz.

Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

Originally Posted by Rafeal brown

I beleive in God............ for some reasons evolution theory doesn't seem to make any sense to me. The earth and human beings are too complex to be some kind of mistake and the proof of God's existence is everywhere... you'll definitely find proof if you keep an open mind.

evolution most certainly makes sense, you jus dont understand it.. evolution is a theory like gravity is a theory.. there is nothing in our natural world that cannot be explained by random mutation combined with evolution by natural selection. Nothing works without that assumption, everything works with it... there is nothing too believe because it is scientific fact.. here is a summary of evolution for the misinformed- the concept that all organisms are related to each other by common ancestry.. its essential, its the unifying theme in biology.. the mechanism for evolution is natural selection, which is the survival of offspring best adapted to the conditions in which they live.. it works like this, individuals produce alot of offspring, much more than the environment can possibly sustain. these offspring are not identical, they have variations based on genetic differences that come from mutations and other cellular shit.. those offspring with the variations best suited for survival will grow to the age where they can reproduce, thus passing on these favorable adaptations to the next generation, wiping out the other dudes that dont have the adaptations.. thus, nature is selecting offspring and shaping the evolution of all species we werent created by a mistake, it took millions and millions of years.. but lets not make this about evolution.. i was jus saying..

Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

Originally Posted by Rafeal brown

I beleive in God............ for some reasons evolution theory doesn't seem to make any sense to me. The earth and human beings are too complex to be some kind of mistake and the proof of God's existence is everywhere... you'll definitely find proof if you keep an open mind.

for the type of open mind ur talking about i will need to believe in the tooth fairy, santa claus, and unicorns. Humans with wings flying around in the clouds for eternity with a god who plainly dont give 2 shits about us is a little too far fetched for me. thank you but no thanks ill trust the things we realists call the five sences cause you know god do not apply to any of them. but its cool to dream of a place where life is good.... just know when to come back to reality.

Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

The concept of god was used by men to control the masses. There is truth, Buddha didn't believe in God, yet he could not deny the fact that there is a higher reality within us all, whether you call it a God or not is up to you.

Originally Posted by akimofnevis

gods was created by men to control the masses, I can't believe how many gullible people that believes in this farce

Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

God does not exist. it is neither benevolent nor omnipotent. It is so impersonal that even the slightest thought of it is putting it into form, it is you it is me, it is all. The one atom unfolded into many. From that bright light came all of manifested form. Realizing that we are one big bang as a whole, even though through appearance we see seperateness.

Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

Originally Posted by Walking Zodiac

God does not exist. it is neither benevolent nor omnipotent. It is so impersonal that even the slightest thought of it is putting it into form, it is you it is me, it is all. The one atom unfolded into many. From that bright light came all of manifested form. Realizing that we are one big bang as a whole, even though through appearance we see seperateness.

one may think i have thought up a paradox. God does not exist, it is the existence of life itself. True after death, Buddha believed in non-existence or liberation from the cycle of life and death. If one wants to understand the universe of themselves, all they must do is allow realization of it.