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no, i dont think you put in enough bands, but i also think it doesnt matter. its a cool poster and no one really knows exactly by what criteria this will be judged.
fix the edge over the mountains.

what do you think about this one? I changed the bottom a bit... : )

-The question is am I my brother and sister's keeper?
-The answer is more than that.
-I am my brother and my sister.
-I am a person trapped in a building which has collapsed in Haiti.
-I am a father who cannot get to his children in Haiti.
-I am a mother who is injured holding her injured baby with no aid.
-I am not ashamed to say i need your help and I am grateful to say thank you.
Dr. Maya Angelouhttp://savehaitisaturday.com/

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Last time I quote myself again...I promise. Does anyone have any last suggestions for me? I wont be able to edit anything again for awhile because I will be away from my computer for a week...Thanks.

-The question is am I my brother and sister's keeper?
-The answer is more than that.
-I am my brother and my sister.
-I am a person trapped in a building which has collapsed in Haiti.
-I am a father who cannot get to his children in Haiti.
-I am a mother who is injured holding her injured baby with no aid.
-I am not ashamed to say i need your help and I am grateful to say thank you.
Dr. Maya Angelouhttp://savehaitisaturday.com/

Re: Make a Coachella Lineup In Retrospective - COMPETITION!

Originally Posted by TickleMeElmo

So fucking glad to be done. Criticism welcome.

You have Stereolab on both days, which should actually be a plus.

I think Blur would be a lil higher than Pavement at that point, since Leisure was already somewhat big, but no biggie. Suede also seems a bit high, but they were so hyped that its certainly justifiable. Hell, I put them on my 1991 lineup just so I could have them playing Coachella with Frischmann. Also, its one of many possible backstage brawls I've envisioned for that year.

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1992 - I think there are fourth and fifth-line bands that would easily place higher than your sub-subheadliners.

Seems like you wanted to stuff your undercard with every band that would be huge in the next few years, and that throws your authenticity out the window. No festival has ever had a crystal ball with this level of accuracy!

Maybe that should be the rule... if you can't imagine a human being who wouldn't attend, your lineup is probably too strong. It's rare festivals are so amazing that you'd be a fool to stay home, unless you're a fanatic. This would qualify as that good.

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Oops, thanks for pointing out the Stereolab thing. You're probably right about Pavement and Blur and I could honestly say some of the undercard is probably slightly misbilled too but I could say that about any Coachella lineup.

And true, many became big in the next coming years and was gonna change that but menik's winning poster made me keep this lineup. It does foreshadow the next few years, that's for sure.

I just wish the text didn't look so shitty.

Edit: When I edited this post, instead of a save button it said "Vote Now"

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Originally Posted by TomServo

1992 - I think there are fourth and fifth-line bands that would easily place higher than your sub-subheadliners.

Seems like you wanted to stuff your undercard with every band that would be huge in the next few years, and that throws your authenticity out the window. No festival has ever had a crystal ball with this level of accuracy!

Maybe that should be the rule... if you can't imagine a human being who wouldn't attend, your lineup is probably too strong. It's rare festivals are so amazing that you'd be a fool to stay home, unless you're a fanatic. This would qualify as that good.

You do realize this is an imaginary "What If" contest, right? You have seen Erik's poster, right? Are you implying that everyone should fill their undercard with obscure shitty bands? No offense, but just because you put Soul Coughing and Blues Traveler on your poster doesn't mean everyone should.

Aside from NIN, Pearl Jam, and possibly Soundgarden and STP, what bands do you think were bigger than his subs in early 1992? Sonic Youth headlined Lolla over Hole in '94, and that was Hole's apex.

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I think Blur is in the right spot actually (you could move them up a line or two) but they only sold just over 100 thousand copies of Leisure by the time their second record came out (in the US).

Which is about 95,000 more copies than Seaweed, Luna, Pavement, OCS, Spiritualized, Green Day, Rage, Afghan Whigs, MMBT and Tool had sold at that point. Combined.

Not that they should be moved above Soup Dragons, though. That would be sacrilege.

Honestly, Tickle's lineup is great, its one of my favorite posters. You've got mine, and one look makes it obvious that its Dreamchella as far as the bottom two lines on each day. I was just tryin to point out that Blur was actually kinda big by 1992. By Coachella standards anyway.

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Either way. The simple fact that they had sold any records at all would probably bump them off my bottom line. Its funny that we're even talking about record sales, anyway.

The first thought I had when I read about the contest was "Holy shit, I gotta do 1990 or 1991 so I can put On a Friday on a Sunday!" Which is, of course, total bullshit as far as reality. But its been fun so far.

They did get signed by an EMI rep who happened to walk into the record store where Colin was working.

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Aside from NIN, Pearl Jam, and possibly Soundgarden and STP, what bands do you think were bigger than his subs in early 1992? Sonic Youth headlined Lolla over Hole in '94, and that was Hole's apex.

When you have to preface your response with "aside from" four different bands who would all have headliner status within 2 years of this show, you're answering your own question.

Undercards are generally packed with bands who will never have enough popularity to become headliners. In fact, go back and look at the previous Coachella lineups and find more than one or two bands from line 4 down that ever reached that level of popularity... they aren't there. This poster has *ELEVEN* bands (by my count) from line 4 on that would go on and headline major festivals in the USA in the near future. Eleven! I struggled to find more than two bands appearing that low who would be legit slam-dunk headliners in Coachella's entire history.

I'm trying to be helpful to other folks here. I haven't bashed anyone's poster, I'm trying to help them improve their work, and every post I've said "hey, it's your own poster, have fun." But if I were a judge, there's absolutely no way I'd reward a poster that was somehow more prescient than any lineup in festival history. It just comes off as lazy and/or self-indulgent, and this guy obviously wasn't lazy, he worked hard on putting out a quality poster... he just overdid the popular alt-rock acts.

But as with everything else here, this has to be an argument. I suppose it is a good way to keep other people out of the contest... and off the board altogether.

Also, he's got the Clash as a sub and Sex Pistols on the bottom line even thought the Clash opened for the Pistols in December 1976. They didn't even release their first single until March, 1977. Siouxsee & the Banshees had played a handful of shows.

But you know what? That poster is fucking awesome. Because it COULD have happened.

Re: Make a Coachella Lineup In Retrospective - COMPETITION!

Originally Posted by abbeyroad 04

1990 - The year I graduated High School. Brings back some memories for sure. Before you say "Mother Love Bone is wrong, let me explain. In January when the line-up is announced they have every intention of playing, but Andrew Wood dies in March, just a couple weeks before the show. Style Council who broke up in late 1989 play a one-off of Modernism (A new decade) in the Sahara tent where the new "rave" scene is really becoming a hit.

Done in the style of the "product" designs that were so popular with Rave CD compilations in the early 1990's.

Comments?

Can I please get some feedback? Design comments? Line up critique? Anything? (Helpful that is).

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Originally Posted by abbeyroad 04

Can I please get some feedback? Design comments? Line up critique? Anything? (Helpful that is).

Prince is never a subheadliner, I don't know where people get that idea. Frankly I don't think REM is either at that point, but that's debatable. The overall design is kinda inventive. Looks a lot like a detergent box. I think the dates are supposed to be in the right hand corner not the left, though I'm just getting that from some other boardie and who knows how full of shit she is. I would take out the New And Improved Formula.