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Originally Posted by Dee Dub

Not if the team keeps pumping him up. For the Steelers to continue to do this is the real problem. This is ultimately a death sentence for the Steelers should Ben get hurt again. They go nowhere but backwards with Charlie Batch Quarterbacking them.

He had his one moment to the contrary last season vs. the Ravens. The odds of a repeat performance in such a big win is highly unlikely. That would be a decent way to end his career; sure, he didn't win the SB, but how many 39-year-old, 3rd-string QBs ever will? Come on.

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Originally Posted by lloydroid

He had his one moment to the contrary last season vs. the Ravens. The odds of a repeat performance in such a big win is highly unlikely. That would be a decent way to end his career; sure, he didn't win the SB, but how many 39-year-old, 3rd-string QBs ever will? Come on.

Right. He also did beat the eventual SB champs too, so that's something. I like Charlie, but it's time to move on, IMO.

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Originally Posted by Sugar

Right. He also did beat the eventual SB champs too, so that's something. I like Charlie, but it's time to move on, IMO.

It's easy to say time to move on, but where is the money? Your not going to get anyone better than charlie with chump change.
Hoyer was here and we released him, because he couldn't beat out the old man or they didn't have the cash to keep him.
Signing anyone that is good requires money and the Steelers don't have it to spend right now on FA's. We would have to make deep cuts to get under the cap in order to do any business with FA's and besides we need to sign our own first.

Now they can possibly sign some stumble bums on the cheap, but it won't help the team much unless some luck is involved. We just got Parker which is a joke, hell, they could put blinders on Charlie and he still would out produce this bum.

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Originally Posted by supersteeler

It's easy to say time to move on, but where is the money? Your not going to get anyone better than charlie with chump change.
Hoyer was here and we released him, because he couldn't beat out the old man or they didn't have the cash to keep him.
Signing anyone that is good requires money and the Steelers don't have it to spend right now on FA's. We would have to make deep cuts to get under the cap in order to do any business with FA's and besides we need to sign our own first.

Now they can possibly sign some stumble bums on the cheap, but it won't help the team much unless some luck is involved. We just got Parker which is a joke, hell, they could put blinders on Charlie and he still would out produce this bum.

We need to release some players to free up money to address other areas of he team. We have Worilds or a first round OLB to replace Harrison. We can sign Allen for cheap or start an early round pick (gasp!) at SS. If we resign Lewis it would still be cheaper than Ike and can start Cortez Allen. We use the freed up money to address more dire needs. We need a good backup QB. We need to solidify backup OL cause someone will get injured. We could address RB in free agency to make our offense better and build around our franchise QB.

Our defense was #1 and we went 8-8. I guarantee you if you make our offense #1 we are far better than 8-8. Every league rule added in the last decade favors the offense. We got a top 5 QB. Why can Steeler fans and the Steelers themselves never get comfortable with the idea of letting the offense being the dominant unit on the team?

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Originally Posted by supersteeler

It's easy to say time to move on, but where is the money? Your not going to get anyone better than charlie with chump change.
Hoyer was here and we released him, because he couldn't beat out the old man or they didn't have the cash to keep him.
Signing anyone that is good requires money and the Steelers don't have it to spend right now on FA's. We would have to make deep cuts to get under the cap in order to do any business with FA's and besides we need to sign our own first.

Now they can possibly sign some stumble bums on the cheap, but it won't help the team much unless some luck is involved. We just got Parker which is a joke, hell, they could put blinders on Charlie and he still would out produce this bum.

I guess I just figured that Hoyer was let go because Charlie knew the system and was ready. Who's to say we couldn't get somebody like that who would be better positioned with a full offseason of programs to learn?

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Originally Posted by Mister Pittsburgh

We need to release some players to free up money to address other areas of he team. We have Worilds or a first round OLB to replace Harrison. We can sign Allen for cheap or start an early round pick (gasp!) at SS. If we resign Lewis it would still be cheaper than Ike and can start Cortez Allen. We use the freed up money to address more dire needs. We need a good backup QB. We need to solidify backup OL cause someone will get injured. We could address RB in free agency to make our offense better and build around our franchise QB.

Our defense was #1 and we went 8-8. I guarantee you if you make our offense #1 we are far better than 8-8. Every oleague rule added in the last decade favors the offense. We got a top 5 QB. Why can Steeler fans and the Steelers themselves never get comfortable with the idea of letting the offense being the dominant unit on the team?

For fans and coaches to be comfortable with the offense being dominant they would need to prove they can be.

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Got no problem with Batch being 3rd string QB & mentor to a young QB, while still being Ben's sounding board on gameday. Batch doesn't need to be the #1 backup to still be on the team. Whenever Ben comes off the field after going 3 & out, or after a turnover, it seems Batch is there with him to go over what just happened. He could very well be Ben's calming influence.

He played 2 games in 2012- the Steelers lost the fumble-athon to the Browns, then beat the Ravens.