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Comment by d3v1lish

Sylvanas isn't as nearly as hard as her toy dreadlord, Varimathras. Killing her poses no problems, but killing Varimathras can be... well, let's say tricky. The interestign thing about her is that she looks nothing like her Forsaken brethren and I bet many people who play Undead are very jealous that she has all her body intact.

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Comment by Tweed

Can anyone confirm the health of these NPC's in UC. The battlemaster's health seems incredibly low (low enough to one shot em) and Lady Sylvanas doesn't sound high enough to be a city leader.

Comment by Zhel

She hates Arthas, he Killed Slylvans while she was alive, Arthas killed Sylvanas while she was Defending her Homeland and Deathknigth Arthas turned her to Banshee, She must have to Possesed a High Elf or Nigth Elf.. Dunno wich one she did.. she looks like a Nigth Elf.. And dreadlord Varimathras is her "Slave" dreadlord Varimathras Swore Loyality to Sylvanas at exchance of Saving his Life and dreadlord Varimathras betrayed his "Brother Dreadlords" When Lichking lose some of his powers and Minion Undead because Illidan threated Frozen Throne with help of Blood Elves and Nagas. But when Lichking lose some of his Powers Sylvans Freed herself Slavery of Lichking And Arthas. She took some Undead to herself and they Became to Forsaken.. "Huoh".. was that all?

Comment by gggiiimmmppp

She periodically vanishes and reappears elsewhere. She also runs around randomly, regardless of tanking, to shoot people from range. She summons skeletons as well but considering the waves of UC guards that will be spawning you'll hardly notice them. Her erattic vanishing/reappearing and running around can lead to unavoidably pulling Varimathras if she decides to visit him. This happened to us, and though his abilities could make him tricky he didn't have the HP to be a problem.

Hug the left on the entry; the warmaster to the right of the door is chained to Varimathras.

Comment by wowhuntr

I'm just wondering....it says she has 3,500 health here, so your saying i could just Mind Blast and Shadow Word:Death her and she's dead?

Comment by Darkicon

3,500 hp is pretty low, I could kill her in 1 shot. I'm guessing they left out 2 0's, considering I can easily kill her solo even with 35,000 hp.

Wowhead seems to have messed up Bronzebeard's hp as well. Thrall's seem accurate, only 50,000, but considering all the mini-boss and elites you'd have a hard time killing him.

Comment by Rainfall

"Sylva" (or "Silva") means "forest" in Latin, thus formerly she could be called "Lady of the Forest". That is also obviously resembles her former rank of a Ranger General when she was still a High Elf.

Comment by Mala09

as tbc came out they increased her to a higher lvlpre tbc-around a 62tbc-anround a 75and if anyone noticed that elite abomination guards spawn to assist, noticed this during the necropolis patch. when you engaged the 62 elites wandering aroud the elites pawn and assist you.

Comment by Andjalis

Shes is one of the most tragic characters in the WC history. I hope that she will come to life when you kill Arthas in Wrath of The Lich King (maybe she will give a quest where you shall kill Arthas)

Comment by sammion

Sylvanas has a neat little shadowstep ability that makes the fight annoying as heck and take awhile as it causes all players to untarget her (My pet owl kept her targeted though, somehow.) and have to look around.

Easily the hardest Horde City Leader, The others are mainly Tank & Spank, this one's just annoying.

Comment by zag615

she used to be a Bloodelf, untill she died in a fight with the Scourge and Arthas (the new Lich King) came and sucked out her soul, from what ive heard :)

Comment by Divvy

She's going to play a role in the next expansion setting up a Forsaken camp / city called Camp Agamand in the Howling Fjord of Northrend, supposed to be led and run by her and the Royal Apothecary Society. She is such a passionate character, I hope she has a good ending, whatever it is...I'd assume whenever we get to kill off Arthas she will be pretty pleased. <Champion of the Banshee Queen> title please.

Edited for spelling.

Comment by Divvy

Stolen from Wowwiki...

I know this is probably old news to most just wanted to post it...

Sylvanas will reportedly be moving to (or appear temporarily in) the Forsaken camp of New Agamand in the Howling Fjord of Northrend. It is here that the plague that the Royal Apothecary Society has been developing to combat the Scourge will be tested, as indicated from this section of the Howling Fjord background on the official site:

On the eastern shore, the Forsaken have arrived, carrying a plague of their own to unleash upon the Lich King. Queen Sylvanas has been methodically and patiently overseeing the formulation of this contagion for several years, and the time has come at last to test its effectiveness against the Scourge.

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Comment by Tacc

When solo kill - gives you 100 - 120 Honor Points

Comment by manareaver

I was fiddling around on the Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne website and found that one of the Blood Mage names are "Sylvos Windrunner." Kinda interesting, would be neat if they put him in game somewhere as a living relative.

Comment by Divvy

Great thinking there man, it would be awesome if she had some relatives or whatever that were undiscovered or even discovered it would be awesome to see, could really make for a great storyline, I love Sylvanas! Long Live the Forsaken!

Comment by Enugor

Ok lets clear this up a bit, Sylvanas was a High Elf, not a Blood Elf.

Diferences:

Blood Elves feed on Demonic Energy when the Sunwell is corrupted (NOTE: CORRUPTED not DESTROYED) hence their eyes are green

High Elves feed on pure Arcane Magic (The Sunwell's and Well or Eternity's) so they have blue eyes.

Blood Elves have Blood Knights

High Elves have Paladins

The ears of the Blood Elves are a bit more vertical than the High Elves's (Though I cant think of an explanation for that)

High Elves are almost extinct, the High Elves that are alive are in Stormwind or in Dalaran (With the exeption of Sylvanas's 2 sisters which both are missing, the one in action and the other just missing. Allera and Vereesa Windrunner).

Noticable thing is that Sylvanas's model is the Night Elf model "modded" to have pale skin,bigger and other eyes. She also sings when you complete a long quest chain starting from a necklace that drops from UD in the Ghostlands. You can also hear the song if you copy this text in your chat: /script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\\\Music\\\\GlueScreenMusic\\\\BCCredits_Lament_of_the_Highborne.mp3")

Comment by coyote72

She used to be Human, actually a leader of the elves. Arthas killed her, and she seeked her revenge on him. It wasn't until her people were killed by the scourge and betrayed by the humans to become enemies of the Alliance.

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Comment by tibo

I thought Sylvanas and Varimathras are you know.... but if you match dreadlord and blood elf thats gross

Comment by Guynumber

that song sounds awfully like the music on the isle of quel'danas..you know...when your just randomly questing you hear it... i think it is.

Comment by Sinverse

Actually there are a few mistakes here.

First and foremost, the blood elves were high elves. If Sylvanas survived the Third War I would presume that she would be a blood elf by now.

The blood elves did not feed upon the the corrupted Sunwell. The corrupted Sunwell was the greatest danger to the remaining blood elves so Kael'thas planned to destroy it which he successfully did by dispersing the corrupted energies (the remaining pure energy manifested to Anveena by the red dragon Korialstrasz). Kael'thas then accepted Illidan's offer of magic source which is fel magic. It is fel magic that has set these blood elves apart from the other remaining high elves scattered in Azeroth.

Yes the high elves do feed upon arcane currents but only to ease their agony of being addicted to magic and definitely not from the Sunwell, at least not anymore (although this could change prior to the 2.4 events). They naturally have blue eyes and the arcane energy has nothing to do with it. They are not limited to having blue eyes (i.e. Alleria Windrunner and her half elf son Arator).

Blood knights are technically paladins. And Blood Knights are basically the equivalent of the Knights of the Silver Hand. The main thing to note is the blood elves' source of holy energy: holy energy that lingers from the magisters who previously "tended" the captive naaru, M'uru (used to be directly from M'uru pre-2.4). As for the high elves, it would be purely from Light just like all Alliance paladins.

Both blood elves and high elf npc's have the same models so there's no difference in their ears. Maybe you were talking about the night elves or the rare highborne.

So in conclusion, yes Lady Sylvanas was a high elf not a blood elf (whom are non existent at the time she was still alive anyway). But if Lady Sylvanas Windrunner changes models, she would look like a blood elf model which is the same as the high elf npc models. But of course with a touch of more rounded blood red eyes and pale blue skin. Lore-wise she should be as short as female blood elves.

Comment by twarden94

If you look at the screen shots you will see the she have the female night elf spell movements the female night elf eye markings, and the femeal night elfs body and skin color. i truly think she was a night elf i mean look at her her name windrunner? sounds like a name named after nature (HINT) (HINT) but both elfs have nature names but all the other facts adds up to her body, skin, markings, movements i guess she picked a night elf bady bye mistake i would if ur dead every thing looks blue so ya. pick which side you like but im pick the night elfs side GO NIGHT ELFS.......and bloods elf my 2 favriot classes

Comment by fadeaway

Vereesa Windrunner, one of the banshee queen's 2 missing sisters, is now suddenly hanging out in Dalaran with the Kirin'Tor in WOTLK beta.

Comment by DJScythe15

A new model for Sylvanas has just been implemented on the beta realms with the new build (build 8820). I'll upload a screenshot of it as soon as possible.

Comment by crohnoes

Both Alliance and Horde players alike will be glad to know that Sylvanas will finally get an Elven appearance she should have had since release!

Comment by Cogzwell

Sylvanas has now officially been changed to the blood elf model, you can see pictures on Wowhead and Wowwiki and maybe soon here

Comment by Akolomina

Victory for Sylvanas!

Comment by Winterstrife

I welcome the updated skin for Sylvanas. She deserved it, after all these years of having a Night Elf model, she finally got her High/Blood Elf model.

So anyway, Sylvanas is a HIGH Elf when she was alive, back then.Blood Elves didn't existed yet.Btw, High Elves & Blood Elves model share the same skin in-game.This can be seen on the following NPC:Arator the Redeemer (http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=16886).He's a Half Elf (but most likely have High Elven features) but Blizzard got lazy and decided not to remake a High Elf model for the NPC, thus he was given a Blood Elf model, which they did the same for Sylvanas.

Comment by Soef

Her new skin looks 99.99% the same as she looks like in Warcraft 3. GJ Blizz!

Comment by Deadraider

And she got a new model again

Comment by Plummix

About damn time that she got a proper looking Model.

*cheers*

Comment by pwnlord

Good for her,coulden't imagine a worser hell than being stuck with a NE model for so long escpecialy if ur leader of the undead whos job is 2 kill NEs

Comment by Ziehk

that's weird, now sylvannas looks like...sylvannas...odd

Comment by velja27

This is true Sylvannas,like the one from Warcraft 3.Before only the name and position could tell u that its her,now only a model is enough.And now she has more prettier model,armor and most of all quiver witharrows and a bow that doesnt look like 20 lvl green.And now the question arises,why the hell didn't Blizzard made this model on the very launch of the WoW?

Comment by Melaka

Total hottie.

Comment by Varaconn

It's not such a big deal now, but to anyone wondering why she ever looked like a Night Elf in the first place, it's worth noting that, until 2.0 and the launch of BC, any High Elf NPCs simply looked like pale-skinned Night Elves.

One can only assume that most of the NPCs' models were changed to match the newly introduced Blood Elf models, since, for better or worse, they are the same race.

Here's a few examples to back up my point:

Fiora Longears in Auberdine: Old | NewCaptain Thalo'thas Brightsun in Ratchet: Old | NewAdon near the border of Eastern Plaguelands and Ghostlands: Old | New

I can't vouch for any height differences in the NPC models, since I personally didn't get around to noticing these NPCs before they were changes, so whether the old models were as tall as Night Elves are (which is significantly taller than Blood Elves) would have to be verified by another.

Oh, but...as to why it took so long for them to change it? Your guess is as good as mine.

Comment by Draquel

Sylvanas actually turns hot! She's actually a belf now! Yay!

Comment by Tankadinpewpew

WTB sex leg :P

Oh yeah, this is the definition of undead, hot undead blood/high elf action.

EDIT: Added undead :P

Comment by DarkWolfB15

As of patch 3.0.2, she now has 5,578,000 health and 85160 mana.

WoWHead, Please Update! =D

Edit: Ty!

Comment by Apocolix

I love blizz for giving her the awesome new apperance and i assume most people would agree

Comment by Phlare

So we killed her today early in the morning (to avoid hordes) and we actually found that its easier to have a hunter tank her because her ranged damage is way less than the melee.

We tanked her below the platform, close to one of the stairs.

The raid was placed between the stairs and entrance below the platform.

Was very easy to deal with the few hordies that tried to disturb us.

Phlare of SlashcryKazzak EU

Comment by TheCreed

Found out couple of days ago when some allys tried to killed her, that when she see the alliance enemies and engages them she says to herself "May my aim be true".Note that this is her real voice saying that, so you might have to be close to detect that.

Comment by Blinddudelol

Patch 3.0.3 Lady Sylvanas has been given a full remodel, and is Hot as &^%$ now. Not saying she wasn't as first of course.

Comment by Zanazua

%^&*ing morons she is a high elf..Play Warcraft 3 before trying WoW. Or atleast read lore before commenting.

Comment by domacleod

I read once on WoWWiki that Sylvanas accepted few necromancers or something(maybe the royal apothecary is the "necromancer" thing) .. and since Necromancy may have power to fully revive the body.. all Necromancers study forth and hope that one day they may ALL (NOTICE ALL NOT ONLY SYLVANAS) be brought back to life. They're name and faction should still be "The Forsaken" for the simple reason that people forgotten them long ago since the third war wich took place like 10 years ago or so (see World Of Warcraft basic intro cinematic) Maybe I'm wrong but hey : that's what i read. -.-'

Comment by joeshmoe1089

*** POSSIBLE SPOILERS***Something I have been wondering ever since i saw the new in-game cinematic is since the Forsaken guy in the cinematic said "Death to the scourge and the Living" and killed scourge, and their "allies" with the plague, what is going to happen to the Undercity faction? Will it split off into a sub-faction or something?

Comment by domacleod

No, actually you see they killed scourge and a Sub-faction of the alliance and one of the horde. If what you say it's true than I'll give you an example. A Blood elf kills a lot of Tranquillien people. He gets Hated with them. Is the Blood elf now Hated with Silvermoon and Undercity? Anyhow, if what I say makes no sense.. The Forsaken killed ALL of them. No one can tell the alliance/horde that the forsaken are so MEAN. An excuse of they're disappearing may be of the simple reason that Arthas killed them. Or.. maybe the dragons whom set fire on that place. :P

Edit : For your knowledge... Putress is some more evil than the other undead. You will notice in the quest chain of the Horde, on the last quest : The Battle For The Undercity. Before the alliance comes, Lady Sylvanas Windrunner : Such will be the fate of all enemies of the Horde, Warchief. Now we must deal with the wretch, Putress.

Comment by Ellwynd

Does anyone know what the respawn time of her is?

Comment by HolyDwarf

Downed her with a 40 man raid yesterday, she was rather easy but keep the AoE coming as fast as you see more then one red name surronding the raid. She is summong skeletons with around 2k HP and those are very easy to nuke fast just put an Volley in the center and they'll be dead rather soon. Remember that there is some elite mobbs surronding her. Both battlemasters and some extra "bosses" they got between 100k-300k HP.

AND remember that u shall not pull her outside the inner circle where she is placed from the beginning caus then u will reset her, happened alot in the beginning for us before we realised what to do :) But as long as you dont whipe this boss fight will be very easy. Happy Hunting to all Alliance players. May the Light bless your path.

Comment by rpotor

Our guild killed her yesterday for the achievement. Actually another raid has killed her right before our eyes and we waited right there in the throne room for her to respawn. So we have a confirmed respawn time for her and it is exactly 2 hours (120 minutes). Hope this might be some useful info for someone else who wants to kill her.

Comment by Magemaster111

Hmm...There is a video on Wow web: here .There at the ending the Forsaken Pwn eveyone, including the horde! Why are they still part of the horde when they killed about 200 of their soldiers, can sum1 explain to me?

Comment by Gurluas

Because that was Varimathas not Sylvanas, the horde, including Sylvanas will assault Undercity and pwn him

Comment by domacleod

I just noticed a very interesting thing when I started to play an Undead rogue. When I wanted to take quests from Varimathras I wondered : hey why doesn't Sylvanas herself give the quest if all he says is true? Then I answered myself in patch 3.03 in the battle for undercity quest.. all (or some of) Varimathras' quests were AGAINST Sylvanas. I can't proove all of them but I can proove one of them : The Power to Destroy... Come on who is so stupid to believe that? It's most of all magic which Sylvanas never heard of, and how would she know even that they're from the Shadow council? And why deliver the books to Varimathras instead of Sylvanas?

In Battle for the Undercity you will see that he.. spawns a lot of dark portals which summon demons, ghouls, succubus, etc. Its logic that Varimathras didn't always have those powers, else he would've done it long before.. and the voice which calls him is either Kil'Jaeden or Sargeras (Sargeras is mostly not probable to be 'cause he's banished and so on so I go for Kil'Jaeden - he's been drowned in the Sunwell but hey : he didn't die, just his summoning was unable to complete) hope my post was useful? :P

Comment by Shinu0Arashi

i think the new wrath of the lich king version is better she looks more forsaken than night elf now

Comment by Craxen

This boss is to simple and easy...Then we had a 40 man raid on this boss, I over aggroed 1 time....she used her ranged attack bow and shoot me for 1,5k ( cloth )....that aint much.. She also goes into a vanish sometimes....random shoots ppls...nothing to worry about. You can call this boss " free Achivement points and some money for the kill " ( She drops around 100g )

Comment by realta

Are.... are those tassels on her breastplate?

Comment by Saaidh

She looks beautiful now.

Comment by Sasztam

Attempted a kill on the Dentarg server earlier tonight and failed due to a repeating evade bug. During the course of a 45 minute battle she reset more than 5 times. In the end we had to give up due to raid member attrition.

A warning to other alliance on that server to stay away from her for the near future.

Comment by Dokee

She is an undead elf (formerly High Elf Archer)

Comment by Saerise

This lady certainly seems to suffer from Middle Child Syndrome. She's definitely the rebel of the three sisters. I like her.

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Comment by Jormungar

I'm probably gonna be downrated a bajillion times, but here's my input.This could be the best female model in the game. As many above me have said, this is an extremely attractive model. However, unlike Alexstrasza, she is not shamelessly baring her skin for all to see. She looks like she has a bit of fire in her, a bit of individuality, if you will. Unlike so many of our present day women.She says to anyone who looks at her "I am beautiful, and if you drooling guys out there want to take a chance, go ahead. You have been warned." She shows just enough skin to let everyone know she is aesthetically pleasing, but hides enough and has that expression- "I'm dangerous."Nice work, Blizzard!

Comment by darkwraith007

As of Patch v3.0.8, her model is the 'newest' one identical to the LK Beta 8982, as seen on live retail servers.I love her, she looks badass, powerful, makes many female hunters envious of her gear/look, and RED EYES!This has to be one of my favorite NPCs in all of WoW. Thrall can be the 'Leader of the Horde' all he wants but Sylvanas will always have our hearts.

Comment by omnislash449

Her new skin looks much better, as she dies as a high elf ( see the lamont of the highborne video on youtube ) Its kinda weird that she becomes a night elf, its so good that she has a new skin :P

Comment by VraulJawrip

Funny how Blizzard makes the famous females hot so the nerds and geeks will drool over their keyboard and continue paying their subscriptions just to look at 'em. xD

No, I'm not one of them. I play to kill...

Armageddon

Comment by Nordigo

Sylvanas is a woobie like nothing else in WoW. ("A woobie (named for a child's security blanket) is that character you want to give a big hug, wrap in a blanket and feed soup to when he or she suffers so very beautifully.")

...Not that I mind, though.

Comment by Spicebringer

They nerfed her B o o b size from WC3 ;(

Comment by Arcisal

Firstly,High Elevs came from Night Elves who practiced magic and were banished by Mal'furion Stormrage to The Eastern Kingdoms.There they changed their skin color, eye color, height, hair and other stuff. They were a war with the Amani Trolls for the forestlands and they were being owned until the Night Elves, now called High Elves, allied with the Arathi Tribe of humans. There they fought the Amani Trolls and won. They made the Sunwell, Silvermoon and all those stuff you see today. But when Arthas killed Sylvannas he turned her into a banshee. Then he destroyed the Sunwell killed the High Elves. Lots of High Elves become Blood Elf lead by Kael'thas.Anyways. She still is hot

Comment by Daretocarebear

Still hot as ever, even in that dead corpse I see.

;)

Comment by omnislash449

I wanna cast Lay on Hands on her, just guess where I am gonna lay those hands on ;)

Comment by jermyang

she has a rather beautiful, voluptuous form, if i do say so myself.

Comment by Mtrais

I just noticed they gave her bigger $%^&s than the normal blood elf model

Comment by penpen002

This would be the only reason why I want to roll Undead. o,o

Comment by bloodysir

(sylvanas confronting arthas at his camp)

Sylvanas: You walked right into this one, Arthas. It's time to even the scales.

Arthas: Finish me, then.Sylvanas: A quick death...like the one you gave me? No. You're going to suffer as I did. Thanks to my arrow, you can't even run. Give my regards to hell, you son of a !@#$%.

Comment by bloodysir

taken from wowwiki

Around this point, the weakened Ner'zhul began to lose control of the minds of Sylvanas and a number of banshees. She kept this discovery from Arthas and Kel'Thuzad while continuing to serve. The dreadlords contacted Sylvanas and explained that they knew the cause, and arranged a secret meeting with her. They told her that Ner'zhul's—and by extension Arthas'—powers were beginning to diminish. The nathrezim intended to use this opportunity to seize control of Lordaeron. Sylvanas tentatively agreed to assist, but under the condition that her aid would be provided on her own terms.

The dreadlords planned on killing Arthas within the capital, but Sylvanas created a contingency plan in the case of Arthas' escape. She arranged for her banshees to feign allegiance and escort him to a place in the woods where she would be waiting for him. After Arthas survived the dreadlords' ambush and escaped the capital, Sylvanas' loyal sisters saw him to the arranged place, and then killed his bodyguards.

Sylvanas, hiding in the shadows, struck him with an arrow she had crafted — a venomous sting that would paralyse him. Arthas was furious at her betrayal, and demanded that she finish him. But Sylvanas refused to show him the mercy of a quick death and intended to make him suffer — as he had made her suffer in undeath. She was about to begin her grisly work when Kel'Thuzad arrived and intervened, killing her banshees and chasing her off.

Arthas left for Northrend, having been summoned by the Lich King, and Kel'Thuzad went into hiding. Sylvanas and her sisters were freed, but Sylvanas was still troubled. Though free from Ner'zhul, she and the other free-willed loyalists remained monstrous abominations in appearance.

Her thoughts were interrupted as Varimathras arrived on the scene. The dreadlord invited the banshee to join him and his brothers in their new order. But Sylvanas was not so quick to relinquish what freedom she had just gained. She told him that her assistance was enough, and demanded to be left alone. Varimathras ominously warned that those who were not part of this new land would be cast aside, and that she had best not vex the new rulers of the Plaguelands. Sylvanas was adamant. As Varimathras departed, Sylvanas knew that an attack was imminent. But with only her banshees and some lesser undead to serve for her, Sylvanas was certain that she would soon fall. She needed to acquire an army.

Scouting the outer wilderness, Sylvanas found a plethora of creatures who would serve her well, and with her banshees at her disposal, they would have little choice in the matter. She sent out her banshees to possess Mug'thol the leader of the local ogres, the Bandit Lord Blackthorn, the gnoll ruler Snarlmane, and the Murloc Puddle Lord. Those she did not possess were killed. With so many new allies, Varimathras was quick to fall before her. But after she defeated him, Varimathras begged for his life, saying that he could serve her well. He knew his brothers' tactics, and where their bases were located. Sylvanas knew trusting such an insidious creature was a risk, but felt that she could control him enough for her purposes. With Varimathras' assistance, they moved against Detheroc's forces.

Detheroc had acquired a human puppet, Garithos, and his men, and was using them to protect himself. Sylvanas had his scouts possessed, and then infiltrated his base while their guard was down. As they slept, Sylvanas swept through the twin bases and slaughtered any before her. Though they eventually awoke and raised the alarm, it was too late. Sylvanas disabled the humans and ravaged Detheroc's forces, eventually coming to the dreadlord himself, and killing him swiftly. With the dreadlord dead, Garithos was freed from his mental control. Sylvanas saw him as arrogant and foolish, but felt that she could use him. She lied and promised to relinquish control of the Capital to him if he helped her kill Balnazzar.

Garithos attacked from the rear entrance to the city as Sylvanas and Varimathras came from the front. As they moved into the city, Sylvanas found caches of items left by the Lordaeron royals, and used them to further the assault. Despite the dreadlord's demonic allies, his forces were destroyed, and, as a final test of loyalty, Sylvanas demanded that Varimathras kill Balnazzar. Varimathras froze, saying that it was forbidden for one Nathrezim to kill another. But she required Varimathras to prove his loyalty to her. Varimathras obeyed, and struck down Balnazzar. However, whether by accident or design, Balnazzar survived, later re-emerging as a leader of the Scarlet Crusade. Varimathras was not so reluctant when Sylvanas ordered him to do the same to Garithos.

With all their enemies dead, Sylvanas made a proclamation to Varimathras. They would rule the Plaguelands as the Forsaken, and would stake out their own destiny, where none would get in their way

Comment by DeathBlood

In lore, Sylvanas' loyalty and devotion to the high elves of her past life is evident.

"I haven't lost any love for my homeland or its people, as you know. I've fought tooth and nail for Silvermoon to be allowed a place beside Undercity and Orgrimmar at the negotiating table."

Very interesting to have the leader of the Undead favor the Blood Elves so highly. Though pure speculation, if the Horde factions were to eventually turn against one another (remember the Undead are only there as an "alliance of convenience", because they share the same enemy as the other Horde factions), would Lady Sylvanas Windrunner, formerly Alleria Windrunner, side with the Blood Elves?

Remember that Varimathras betrays the Undead in The Battle For The Undercity. So if Sylvanas were to side with the Blood Elves, if the Horde were to turn on one another, the Undead would be crippled without any leadership.

Comment by ColdKiller

Actually the Forsaken are the undead who have the will to resist the Lich King, this explains there racial ability Will of the Forsaken.

Sylvanas herself broke free from the Lich King while he was rapidly losing his powers due to the crack in the ice block, in which the soul of Ner'zhul was trapped, which was caused when he pushed Frostmourne out of the block of ice.

Illidan, who had been commanded by Kil'jedaen to destroy Ner'zhul, was worsening the crack and therefore increasing the rate at which he lost his powers.

Edit: Damn this was supposed to be a reply....Edit2: Spelling, grammar, etc.

Comment by bokino

She is hot when we raided under city i could barely bring my self to attack her

Comment by gabeo820

iill raid her all night long.....wait what?

Comment by Suzaku

Sylvanas has redone voice acting with a new actress as of Patch 3.2.

Comment by Arniespizza

I may be going crazy, but it sounds to me like Blizzard changed her voice. Her new voice sounds like a little girl that is far from undead. This kinda sets me off because I am a huge undead fan and love having such a cool race leader. But now, a bunny could sound scarier than her. It seems Verimathamis' voice has changed also, for the worse. Bad move on Blizzard's part.

EDIT: Should have thought to look at the comments first. Anyways, forgot to say that this act of foolishness from Blizzard motivated me to finally make a wowhead account :p

Comment by Yoshiarecool

Her voice actor changed with 3.2, unfortunately its not very good compared to her original. Her booming authoritative voice has become feeble and weak

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Comment by SuperRound

How many more times do they need to change her voice?She sounds like the female version of Microsoft Sam ¬.¬

Comment by HushedOne

By ShadowSurgeon on 12/18/2007 (Patch 2.3.0)

Im still not so sure arthas will die. Warcraft heroes have a weird tendency to escape tricky situations. Like Kael Thas is coming back in the next expansion. he's supposed to be a boss in sunwell plateau. So maybe arthas wont go down so easy either. And on a side note, if Blizzards going with warcraft realism, Arthas owned illidan in frozen. So he should be ALOT harder to kill, relatively speaking. I bet sylvanas gets involved in that fight too, like akama in Illidans fightLast edited by

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And on a side note, if Blizzards going with warcraft realism, Arthas owned illidan in frozen.

If you have even watched the little cutscene and played frozen throne, you'd know Arthas did not "Own" Illidan in fact he did quite the opposite. Illidans forces are kicking the living snot out of him the whole last lvl, and in the cutscene ARTHAS gets knocked prone and as Illidan is leaping in for the kill, he crawls and lets a last second desperate swing with Frostmourne, gets lucky and connects and Frostmourne tears Illidan open at across the chest knocking him back and down wounded, giving Arthas enough time to lift himself back up and run like a scared little rabbit... haha so by any means he didn't own Illidan he got lucky, and then allowed himself to be further possesed by the Lich King. Aka Arthas is a wimp, and the Lich King is the one to worry about as he's a Demi-lich (of sorts in the way they present it), who's power is basically trapped in his armor/sword, so because Arthas don's his body, Arthas is merely a pawn/vassal. Nothing to great otherwise.

Comment by HushedOne

Also on a side note, Sylvannas was also in Warcraft 2, not sure about 1 never played story mode not sure they're even was much of one haha, but in Warcraft 2 well the Expansion pack, You actually play as her and some random paladin, I want to say Tirion but not sure it's been a while and I know the mission I'm recalling wasn't Uther :P and I remember the paladin started with a T for a name haha, and basically they're just really powerful units saying as how they didn't have Heroes in WC2.

Comment by blackquaza

Can They Give Birth?, And If Not There Faction May Not Last Too Many Years, unless of course, all of its memebers are of a continuous lifeThe Forsaken are undead broken free of the Scourge. So if one dies... another one breaks free of the scourge.

Comment by NMcrazy

The common cold has finaly got a hold of our Dark Lady. Took a while, considering her clothing.

Comment by Bryrida

Sylvanas Windrunner's talking voice has been updated in 3.2.0

In my opinion, The old one is much better.

Comment by Wizardling

Why is her voice so bad now? It's like amateur hour voice recording :-( Varimathras' new voice is almost as bad :-(

Comment by Neymorra

They changed her voice at some point. I don't know when, but I don't like it. I liked her old voice. It makes me sad.

Edit: I see others posted this as well, so I apologize for the redundancy. I didn't think to check the last page for some reason. Still very disappointed. I wish they'd change it back.

Comment by itankforfood

Hmm.. a sexy bish..damn, a sexy bish..

I agree with the others, the new voice kinda sucks.. sounds like she's trying to hard, bad girl, BAD!

Comment by Belyndara

She sounds more like a High/Blood elf now, i kinda like it now that i saw that.but her old voice was still badass

Comment by TheHeroOfTheDawn

Got a kill on her-- our raid refused to die. And most epic fight I've ever done in this game.We got in, wiped cause half our group didn't know where the hell they were going.Regrouped at Scarlet Mon, then came again. This time, a few defenders showed, and we got murdered at entry-- but a few survived, and the Battlemasters went down. I was ghost running to rez when she got pulled. When I get back, we were down to 4 or 5 guys, so I just pick up and start DPS'ing her (level 72 BM Hunter-- was pulling ~870 DPS her initially). Then over the course of our 6-minute fight with her we get fully rezed, rebuffed, downed her and her wall of Skeles, the battlemasters for a second time and we got ~13 HKs on the scum who... Tried and Failed, Knowing that JUSTICE PREVAILED!

Quite a fun fight, If I must say so myself.

Comment by mageme94

Im not just saying sylvanas but all main city bosses in general could use a buff.People are doing the ''BB king'' achievement atm and i look back in my combat log''Royal Dreadguard shoot hits ____ 2014'' ''Lady Sylvanas's shoot hits ____ 3107''.... anywho discuss.

Comment by MXT815

In response to Callum123, I would call myself a DeathElf. I'm not sure what the word for death is in Dorein, or 'Elven' as the humans would say, but it would be SOMETHING'Dorei. I think that would be a hotter title than Banshee Queen. But that's just my opinion.

Comment by SoulSwordx

Am I the only one that would do her even if she's undead?

Comment by FenrirTheHunter

For beeing an undead, she is hot as hell. Well, she was a high elf before. We the blood elves got our stuff...lol

Our women are beautiful, even when they are undead

HAIL TO LADY SYLVANAS WINDRUNNERHAIL TO LOR'THEMAR THERONHAIL TO THRALLHAIL TO VOL'JINHAIL TO CAIRNE BLOODHOOF

FOR THE HORDE!

Comment by Hyperlynx

Dead, alive, either way I'd hit that.

Comment by aku09

Lore:

She wields Sunstrider's Longbow given to her when she was the Ranger General of Silvermoon. The original wielder of the bow is Dath'Remar Sunstrider,former High King of Quel'Thalas and ancestor of now deceased Kael'thas Sunstrider Magisters' Terrace was merely a setback

Comment by Nordigo

I just noticed something interesting. Doesn't Catwoman sound awfully lot like her, in this clip? Or moreover doesn't the new voiceover sound an awful lot like catwoman in that game (Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe for those not bothering to look)?

Comment by Valdo2345

What happened to her since the wrathgate that made her such an....interesting charachter twords the horde. in the Icc 5 mans she is calling the horde weak left and right, and dis respecting warriors who had given their life for the horde.

Comment by shammycow

Got to wonder why they didn't paint in the huge gash in her stomach from Frostmourne. Did she fix it with her "banchee magic?"

Comment by Draknalor

how come she was night elf in vanilla wow but belf in wotlk?

Comment by sillybuns

I'm about to write spoilers, don't read if you don't want to see.

At one point Garrosh questions the difference between Sylvanas and The Lich King, since she used val'kyr (which she recruited from the scourge after the old Lich King fell) to resurrect dead humans into Forsaken.

Although she is becoming more like The Lich King with every passing day, there is one vital difference between the two of them. Sylvanas shares no mental link with her subjects, she can only tell her 'subjects' what to do, she cannot force them like The Lich King did.

Some Forsaken harbor no loyalty to her whatsoever, a good example being Vincent Godfrey, who she brought into the Forsaken not long after commiting suicide. He only obeyed Sylvanas in the hope he could create a ceasefire between the horde and Gilneas. Though he ends up betraying Sylvanas by shooting her (which kills her). She is brought back to 'life' by her Val'kyr though.

The point of my Tl;dr post was that even though she can bring someone from death into the Forsaken, they still have a mind of their own. She isn't exactly a just ruler, there might be another Forsaken rebellion of sorts, in the future. However i'm just speculating as such.

Comment by HoboBoxes

She has pretty hair.

Comment by Pandorajade

What is her first name thou? Sylvanas is because of Lord Sylvanas. I know she has 2 sisters but I cant find anything on what HER first name is.

Comment by gemanoma

Is a Hottie!

Comment by Demonor

I have never liked Sylvannas i mean she still use the purge or toxic or whatever it was used at the batte of the wrathgate.Now she wants to use Val'kyrs to raise more Undead's and if she do so unnoticed she even might try take control over the horde when she feels she got enough of armies.So she is more of the ''New Arthas (DK)''She maybe even planning to take over the horde?Or maybe she wil raise many undeads and lose control of them and every life is in danger maybe not or maybe?

But that is just mine opinion.

Edit:Just more things

Comment by Kylay

For anyone who was wondering about how the Forsaken will live if they can't reproduce, I stole this from Wowwiki and a quest from Cataclysm in Silverpine Forest.She has also conscripted the val'kyr, the ascended vrykul women who once served the Lich King, and uses them to raise dead enemies as Forsaken as a solution to the undead not being able to procreate.

Comment by guatafu

Lordareon belongs to the Forsaken... always and forever!

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Comment by Gnoktish

I can't say that I enjoy what Sylvanas is doing with the Val'kyr. She is slowly becoming what the Lich King has done. But there is one small hint in the game that sets the difference between her and Ner'zul. During the Silverpine Quests. She offers the safe return of Lorna Crowley to her father if he stands down and withdraw his troops. This small act of mercy shows she is not much of a ruthless brute as the Lich King was.

So with some quests, you can find her good side. But in battle, she is eligible to unleash devestating blows to enable success. As a ranger, she looks for the weak spots and easy wins. The Apothecary is still in use even after the Wrath Gate event. But she keeps closer eye on them to ensure no betrayal within her allignment of undead. The Horde still need to pay attention to her intentions for she can become drunk with her new rule over the Val'kyr and what they can reanimate.

Comment by Dexven

Imagine if she had a family reunion with Vereesa and Alleria. I'm pretty sure that would be awkward for her.

"Hey sis, what have you been doing for the past few years?""Leading the Forsaken, being betrayed by demons and scientists, and raising dead people into loyal servants as a form of procreation for the Forsaken.""........ WHAAAAT?"

Comment by Panagos13

So.....Sunstrider's Longbow or Thori'dal the Stars Fury?

Comment by Yoku

World of Warcraft patch 4.5.6 Rise of the Forsaken: Sylvanas is the undisputed ruler of all, all races have been assimilated into the forsaken and in addition a new race has been added, The Blight Ooze.

I can see it now... we are all boned...

-Edit spelling is hard gise!-

Comment by Tentenchan

Here are some of the sayings Lady Sylvanas has, copy and paste into game to enjoy!

May my aim be true./script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\\\Creature\\\\SylvanasWindrunner\\\\SylvanasWindrunnerAggro02.wav")

We are the Forsaken, we will slaughter anyone who stands in our way./script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\\\Creature\\\\SylvanasWindrunner\\\\SylvanasWindrunnerGreeting01.wav")

What are we if not slaves to this torment?/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\\\Creature\\\\SylvanasWindrunner\\\\SylvanasWindrunnerGreeting02.wav")

What joy is there in this curse?/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\\\Creature\\\\SylvanasWindrunner\\\\SylvanasWindrunnerGreeting03.wav")

I have no time for games./script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\\\Creature\\\\SylvanasWindrunner\\\\SylvanasWindrunnerGreeting04.wav")

Comment by jnwisgood

She possibly has the best model in the game.

Comment by karrosene

On another note, Vincent Godfrey has earned the achievement Downing the Dark Lady. Ten points to you, traitorous bastard!

not really because she came back from rezzing so you know dosent count

Comment by tobindax

Hottest NPC in the game.

Comment by Froswaldthegreat

Lilian Voss for ruler!

Comment by Vonara

Really hoping that after becoming such a devious villain in Cataclysm, Thassarian and Koltira team up to remove Sylvanas later in the expansion, and hopefully Koltira can lead the Forsaken.

Comment by Vaelgath

If Sylvanas ever decided to have a hunter pet, what do you think it would be? I'd have to put my money on a spider of some kind, most likely a black widow.

Comment by sageburner

Lady Sylvanas is at once both vicious, cold, and calculating, but also a very fierce, loyal, and somewhat compassionate protectoress of her people. Many of the Forsaken were residents of Lorderon in life that were viciously murdered and raised as Undead by Arthas' Scourge. When Arthas fled to Northrend permanently, he left the Undead of Lorderon behind. Sylvannas took over, and as the city proper was pretty well destroyed and no longer really defensible, she moved the whole thing underneath to the old catacombs and sewer system. This is now known as Undercity.

In the meantime, as Lorderon was once a human settlement, the Alliance feels that they have a claim to the old kingdom, and the Undead should be kicked out or better yet, destroyed. As Sylvanas puts it, "The Alliance does not recognize our rights. They claim this land as their own while attempting to invalidate the claims of the founders of this kingdom." After which she bellows, "I will never allow it...NEVER!"

Interestingly, in spite of her endless burning fury over her own fate and the fate of her people who died and were raised as Undead, she has no problem at all with using many of the Lich King's tactics. She orders the murder of innocent humans with plague using Valkyr to raise them again whether they want to or not. This has caused alarm among the heads of the Horde, and even Garrosh Hellscream, an orc known for loving a good round of war, blood, and mayhem, finds this repulsing and unacceptable. He even asks Sylvanas point blank what the difference between her and the Lich King is. She coyly responds that she "serves the Horde," which was not an answer well received by Hellscream.

Currently during Cataclysm time frame, she is busy trying to slide her agenda underneath Hellscream's watchful eyes and create more Forsaken for her army any way she can.

Comment by Isakdokmo

She is a very badass character, no doubt, one of my favorites.

But it still bugs me that Godfrey actually managed to kill her. :<

Comment by Quench

Sylvanas's short story is out. It is called Sylvanas Windrunner: Edge of Night. It takes place before she had Val'kyr on her side, so this story takes place sometime between when Arthas had died and before the new Forsaken Cataclysm quests.

Here are some things I found interesting about that story. Spoilers.• She knows about Bolvar.

• She admits that she treated the Forsaken as only weapons when she said "Those who served me were tools. Arrows in my quiver."

• After she commits suicide, she makes a pact with the Val'kyr to be resurrected. The Val'kyr wanted to make the pact so that they would no longer need to serve Bolvar, who may never wake up or he may wake up and choose a path they didn't like. Now the Val'kyr are bound to her instead of the Lich King and they will act as extra lives for each time Sylvanas dies.

• The Val'kyr gave her a vision of the Alliance managing to take back Lordaeron. This was probably a vision of the future if she had remained dead.

• Sylvanas had realized that she should no longer treat the Forsaken as weapons, but as "a bulwark", which is a type of shield. She doesn't want to stay dead anymore. "She saw only darkness" when she had died as an undead.

Comment by Tamardia

Sylvanas is technically "alive" in the sense that she thinks and moves. However, she is the hottest reason ever to become a necrophile.

Comment by Wraithburn

All this talk I've been seeing about her being killed off. Well who would replace her without castrating the entire race in her death? Who has the power to lead and stand up for this race, stand up to Garrosh, and have a tactical mind to keep the enemy at bay? I can't think of a single "un-living" soul.

Comment by Dohma

If u ally and wanna kill Lady Sylvanas Windrunner, great ENTRANCE and EXIT is on sewer. When you wanna exit this sewer entrance is across the water between Apothecary and War Quarter up some stairs. There in sewer is http://www.wowhead.com/npc=5624. ENTRANCE from outside is on right side of main entrance of UC in Tirisfal Glades.

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Comment by zxczxczbfg

". . . I love a bad girl . . . "--The Doctor (Actually talking about River Song, but what the heck?)

Comment by Tamardia

"She's nothing like the girl you've ever seen before,Nothing you can compare to your neighbourhood hoe"

Very very true.

Comment by DagothUr

I wonder if Blizzard will ever make her immune to Faerie Fire (at least the stealth part). It would make the fight both harder and more interesting.

Comment by Everliving14

Probably the hardest city boss, mechanics-wise (none of them are that hard though).

Of course, that's not taking into account the flood of trade trolls that stampede through your raid if you try Garrosh Hellscream or Variann Wrynn.

Comment by DagothUr

I wonder what would happen to Undercity if she leaves to help the Siege of Orgrimmar. What would happen with Bragor Bloodfist and his Kor'Kron Overseers? Would Bragor have his forces take over Undercity in a counterattack and Aleric Hawkins would lead some sort of resistance against him and the Kor'Kron? I know its just speculation, but I hope Blizzard doesn't forget about them.

Comment by Battlehound

Sarah Kerrigan 2.0 anyone?

Former Ranger Generalvs.Former Ghost (sniper)

Was killed by the Scourge, and forced to become one of themvs.Was captured by the zerg, and forced to become of them

Broke free from the central mind of the Scourge, the Lich Kingvs.Broke free from the central mind of the zerg, the Overmind

Became a vengeful and powerful force hellbent on vengeancevs.Became a vengeful and powerful force hellbent on vengeance

Prophecy tells of how she will be important in the future, preventing the worlds endvs.Prophecy tells of how she will be important in the future, preventing the worlds end

Comment by Riggnorok

Lady Sylvanas Windrunner is a personal favorite of mine and always will be.

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Comment by Zajek

We flew in on our griffons to the Undercity via Cave. We were all Death Knights, so we could summon minions to distract the guards and move in quicker. When we got in Varimathras was first to notice us. Suprisingly, Sylvanas didn't immediately rage on us. What luck. We were planning after Varimathras died, and I got tired of it. I decided to do something that failed in the past, but may work here. "A'ight shows over, let's do this! Leerooooooooooooooooooooooooooooy Jenkins!" Well I rushed in and all of us casted "Army of the Dead" and there were like 50 ghouls. We stood a good chance against those stupid mages in her chamber. Then Sylvanas vanishes and re-appears behind Torel and shoots an arrow right in his back! He goes "AW SH** SHE GOT ME!" and he dies. Well we called a priest who was our backup and he raised Torel again. It was lucky, and after 20 minutes of fighting she finally died. She didn't drop anything, but it was still worth it. I got a nice badge to carry around. Torel goes "Thrall next week?" and we all say "NO!" at the same time. It was fun.

Comment by Aviatrixx

Sylvanas Windrunner in Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos is a Blood Elf runner who encounters Arthas after he started to become evil. She ran away from him to a Blood Elf City but it soon falls and she is slain, then resurrected.

Comment by sergeantsargeras

''What joy is there in curse''

One of the best Warcraft quotes

Comment by EverGuardian

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

Comment by dbbaker01

So,isn't one of the theories on how she went from banshee to night elf to dark ranger to dark lady/banshee queen pretty much saying that she possessed a night elf,then somehow managed to just comepletely steal it for good and the night elf can never have the body ever again,EVER!,then she went to the ruins of lordaeron's main city of it's entire kingdom,in tirisfal,then gathered up her banshee's and did some dark highborne ritual that caught the attention of many....drawing ppl to where it's coming from....which also transformed the body she stole...and by WOTLK(Wrath of the Lich King) the ritual had transformed her into a dark ranger,then soon after,finally,the dark lady/banshee queen?

Comment by Castielle

It's rumored that Cowled Ranger in the Garrison inn is actually Sylvanas. After completing her quest, she reveals that she's looking for Alleria.

This NPC is different from the others that appear in your inn. She has 16 million health and a boss skull difficulty level. Can't think of who else it would be!

Comment by QueenSylvanas

O' you Ranger-general of old / O'you Destroyer of The Scourge Hold

O' you protector of our home-world / O' you Cry of the Quel'dorei of old

O' you shatterer of the scourge bound / O'you lady of all the loyal in the world

O' you mightier than the kings / O' you wiser than thousand devils

O' you the terror of legions / O' you great master of Demons

O' you Forsaken Ranger of Quel'thalas / O' you who bled for the sake of all of us

O' the queen of all the Dead / O' the light shined upon the dead

Rise and command the forsaken once again / and claim the world in your mighty reign

Comment by QueenSylvanas

to those who think of dark lady as the same breed as arthas/nerzhul ; it is obvious that none of you ever known what she had gone through when the evil prince arthas swept through quel'thalas. she fought with a valor unlike any warrior who ever cared about their homeland or their people. she fought so hard that arthas who had never been stopped before in his way , actually had to take hard ways to his ends and be delayed so many times that he couldnt reach sunwell in time, which got to the point that dreadlord balnazzar told him: "it took you long enough to get here" ; as he was reaching the outskirts of silvermoon. and arthas himself once or twice projects his devastation of sylvanas's remarkable resistance against scourge when he says: this ranger women starts to vex me greatly!. yes ignorant and unjust individuals , you are talking about a woman who fought tooth and nail with valor and strength against someone who had an army with no equal and now you talk about her being one like arthas? lady sylvanas walked the infinite darkness like arthas , she raised the dead from the grave like arthas , she used plague against her enemies like arthas but she never-ever lost her love and loyalty to her people and to quelthalas. she was the one who made the sin'dorei a legitimate part of the horde and also she was the one who made it possible in the first place where she sent a mighty force of forsaken to ghostlands to aid the bloodelves in their fight against the scourge. all the proof of her love to her people that you need is in the chain quests starts with: Hero of the Sin'dorei . she has no great love for the horde because her people were never a real part of the horde nor they have ever been truly an ally for the alliance. their loyalty was always to their own and so their ranger-general was a paragon of that attitude. not only her but all other bloodelves would always put their people and their land first in line and then others like horde, but lady sylvanas is also a queen of the forsaken which are her subjects and she had always led them into glory and salvation. as for the valkyries, for those foolishly ignore the fact that they willingly joined her in the first place i would tell this part of the story: after the fall of the lichking lady sylvanas went to the ice crown citadel, as she saw no future for herself when her vengeance actually was done, she throw herself down to the icy spikes on the foot of icecrown and killed herself (not because she was tired of fighting but because she knew that this monster-like plague of undeath only leads to evil notions and so she ended that life, so how could someone say that she is an evil like arthas when she didnt let any ambitions inside her now that she was the queen of the dead and only wanted revenge and when quenched that thirst she was to quietly vanish from the world); but it was then when the valkyrie gave her a new way and by doing so they themselves chose to serve her in her conquest through azeroth;;;

i hope this would be a reminder of what she really was and still is , to those who ignorantly flapping about her being an evil like arthas.