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Para Acoustic DI vs. my stubborn piezo

Some owners have reported that the Para has enabled them to eliminate the unpleasant artificial sound of the
built-in piezo pickup in their acoustic guitar, but I have had no such luck so far. I have a Takamine CD132SC
Classical with the bass set at +5 (on a five point scale), mid at +4 and the treble at +3, with the exciter set
at 8 (on a 10 point scale) run through the tube channel of a Fender Superchamp XD with gain at 5 (on a 10
point scale), bass at 8, treble at 5 and reverb off for testing purposes. There is no mid range control on this
amp. As the pickup is active, I have the gain on the Para at 11:00. Notch is at 12:00, low at 5:00, mid at
10:00 and treb at 1:00. Despite lots of fiddling with settings, I still hear that trademark electronic buzz noise
that piezos produce the first split second of contact between finger tips and the wound strings, and would not
describe the over-all sound as "warm". I can confirm that the amp and Para are working just fine, getting great
results fine-tuning the tone from my Godin 5th Avenue Kingpin II, which has twin P90s. Suggestions? Thanks!

Hi Kirk,
The "quack" you are experiencing is typical with piezo pickups and while the Para DI can be useful in reducing the sound, it most likely will not eliminate it. Typically a mid scoop around 1k will help.

In our Anthem system we use a crossover circuit to keep the piezo pickup out of the quack range and instead uses a microphone to capture more of your guitar's sound. I included a link below to sound samples of the steel string version of the Anthem. Unfortunately we do not have classical recordings available yet, but I think the recording is a good example of how the crossover does not allow any quack.

Thank you so much!

A guitar repair tech told me the same thing this week, that the sound that bothers me with the Takamine
is what you get with all piezos regardless of brand or price point. He recommended installing a Baggs M1A
in my new Breedlove steel string, so at least that guitar will be quack free. BTW, I'm new to the electronics
side of the business - what did you mean by a "mid scoop around 1k"? Thanks again for your help. - Kirk

You can boost the mids on the Para DI (knob C) and use the tune knob to sweep the frequencies. When you find a sound that is particularly unpleasant you can cut that frequency. Again, this will help but not eliminate quack.

The M1A is a nice sounding pickup. Here's a video of Richard Gilewitz using it on his Breedlove.

So how do you cut the mids? How do you can cut that frequency. Is it the notch knob,the ABCD knob or the KHZ knob or ????
I see this mid cut comment often for around 1.5 but do not understand.
Thank you

Kirk,
By "mid scoop" i mean to cut the mids.

You can boost the mids on the Para DI (knob C) and use the tune knob to sweep the frequencies. When you find a sound that is particularly unpleasant you can cut that frequency. Again, this will help but not eliminate quack.

Hi lpjr,
Welcome to the forum! When I referred to Knob C I am talking about the knob labeled "MID" on the unit. It allows you to boost or cut a selected freq. Use the knob which is connected to "MID" to select the frequency you need to attack. The tunable knob is directly above the "on" LED and is labeled with ".4, .8, 1.2, 1.6." To cut a selected frequency, turn "MID" counter clockwise towards the minus.