Yes, some gankers do it for profit: shortly after ganking an Industrial ship with a Tornado, they bring a hauler alt who will pick up the loot. This type of haulers usually prefer ships like Viator, Crane etc. and modules like Warp Core Stabilizers.

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Needless to say, taking loot from the Industrial's wreck makes them go Suspect.

"Let's go!"

-Yuri Gagarin

I respect entities who manage to symbolize an area by focusing their actions to that area. In suicide ganking, D400 symbolized Uedama and Sivala. In piracy, many corporations havesymbolized different systems for years. When it comes to shooting gankers and their haulers, Johnny mal'ganis probably symbolizes Jita and Perimeter.

"huhahaha I just stopped 3 suicide gankers before they even attacked their target. Their operation is ruined. They think they're intelligent but that's funny. I've been controlling them for weeks now, they don't know that."

Allow me to introduce you this individual whose exemplary actions perfectly embraces the following philosophy: "If you don't like them, shoot them".

As any ganker around Jita and Perimeter will tell you, his achievements have caused trouble to many gankers who do it for profit…

…hundreds of distinct troubles actually! There are gankers who cancel or postpone their operations just because they see this individual in Local. While I will be contacting him soon for more info, I will also avoid (for obvious reasons) sharing too much details about his operational steps.

Johnny often sits in the surroundings of a gank scene and springs into action as soon as the ganker's hauler steals the loot...

...like this Crane belonging to Lady Tiberiuss whowas hoping to safely return to station after picking up the loot from a recently done gank. Although the Loot Fairy had said "Yes", Johnny said "No." and brought justice.

"Eh, after this nice operation, it's time for a nice coffee. This ganker just tried his 5th tactic and failed again. I wonder what he will try next."

The Mastodon belonging to L Olonnais was also caught in Urlen while operating as the hauler of a ganker. Despite having two Warp Core Stabilizers, his Mastodon couldn't avoid being caught by Johnny's Loki.

Well, actually, it doesn't matter how many Warp Core Stabilizers they have. Johnny will probably hunt you down regardless. Strangely named Vechnick Kechnick was just another victim among hundreds of Johnny's victims who experienced that.

Prixit, however, didn't care about any possibility of opposition. All he wanted was to pick up the loot and make the profit, but that didn't work too well. He was very similar to Ruby Muscheln…

…who was so greedy that not even an additional Warp Core Stabilizer was an option. Cargo expanders… cargo expanders everywhere! Of course, this resulted in destruction. However, I am sure a Johnny-permit would be interesting for him.

"hehe, in Jita, I made a ganker go crazy with my alt. He abandoned all his operations and is now trying to bump my Probe."

-Johnny mal'ganis*Some gankers' haulers are so bot-aspirant that they fail continuously. Killsniper was one of them:

However, he had learned lessons after these encounters. His bot-aspirancy was cured. He sent the following EVE mail to Johnny:

Cya guy, i return in nullsec, had some fun with you ^^I learned some cool things! See you next time! (I hope not lol) ^^

When he can, Johnny also steals the loot before the ganker's hauler does it…

…like this 1.5 billion worth of stuff. Well done!It looks like going back in history shows more and more lessons.

A 1b Punisher is not a regular sight. When gankers become greedy, they become even stranger than a greedy carebear. Herman Cain was caught while operating as the hauler of a Thrasher pilot who had just ganked an Imicus carrying PLEX. He picked up the loot and was eager to warp away with 2 PLEXes, and then, EVE happened.

"Damn, why doesn't this game have animated 3D portraits? It would be great to see the gankers' face expression when I catch them."

I believe we have now seen all the main, fun examples of Anti-Ganking. Posts will therefore be less frequent than before, also because I need to concentrate on RL studies, work and other in-game shenanigans. I've had a lot of fun sharing these short stories, and I hope they will incite more people to enforce the emergent Anti-Ganking content.There are many ways to fight gankers and all of them fit the spirit of EVE perfectly. Say "Let's Go!", create your own EVE story and make it a good one. o7--*Johnny's statements are translated (Turkish -> English) and fixed a little for adapting to English sentence structure.

Tuesday, March 3, 2015

Counter-ganking is one of the finest content generation types in Highsec. When I say "Counter-ganking", I am not talking about that boring mass of AFK carebears who send real life death threats to gankers.

No, I am talking about the less numerous group of people, the Real Anti-Gankers who understand EVE: people who use ingame methods against gankers and inspire me to share all these short stories that I am publishing since I started this blog. Since the beginning, I have received both tears and kudos messages from ganker comments, which is a good sign.

Meanwhile in the EVE Online forums…: "AG's goal is not to create content...it's to take it away" -Kaely Tanniss

"It's plain to see in the AG channel, blogs, forum posts, etc. Anti-gankers overwhelmingly express mostly the +opposite+ of evidence of having fun and enjoyment.

Ganker, calm down. Revis Owen believed that counter-ganking is all about failing, taking content away and opposing to having fun. Well, this blog alone proves that he's wrong, and it's about to prove again with today's stories. So let's leave these individuals alone and actually play the game. Killmails and in-game actions are a lot more enjoyable. Today I want to share some of my beautiful counter-ganking memories from 2013. No matter how old it is, I believe it is a very nice and simple example of action that can be taken against gankers. I want to see more miners step up (or "HTFU" like Feyd would say) and use the in-game mechanics to fight gankers. It is stupid to complain and demand more nerfs in the forums.

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Piekura has always been a special place for me. I had so many lovely memories in that system: Mining, Anti-Ganking, taking screenshots, creating bookmarks everywhere, listening to Miner Stories, collecting ganker tears… and once RL allows me to be more active in EVE, I will definitely visit that beautiful place.

I was ice-mining with my ECM Skiff in Piekura with D-Scan, Watchlist and Local under my eye, as usual. The ECM Skiff has a purpose in Anti-Ganking gameplay. It is about fitting Gallente jammers to the mid slots of a Procurer/Skiff which makes it possible to have a fun time stopping ganks while mining: you can read about it here.

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[ 2013.09.26 15:19:20 ] (notify) Ice Harvester I deactivates. Your cargo hold does not have sufficient space to contain more ore, so loading algorithms have deactivated the Ice Harvester I before it becomes overloaded.After a while, My Skiff's ore hold was already full and the harvester cycle was therefore doing useless runs. However, I didn't empty the ore hold at station because I didn't want to leave the ice belt defenseless. Highsec is not different than other parts of space. Anything is possible any time: A Catalyst could land and gank a Retriever while I was away emptying the ore hold. Also, why would I care about more ISK or more yield? Anti-Ganking isn't about grinding ISK, it's about being patient and having fun as a reward of that patience.As a vigilant miner, I consider the usage of Local and D-Scan as a normal action. In fact, usage of these tools is the vigilant miner's "mini game". Especially D-Scan is an excellent early warning tool. I understood that it was a wise decision to stay at belt when I saw this Catalyst on short range D-Scan.

I was like "Why hellllooww there…...". I love it when a ganker Catalyst suddenly appears on D-Scan. The excitement upon seeing one feels just like being at Pizza Pino in Paris, and like half an hour later, the waiter staff finally appears far away, bringing my favorite pizza and drink! I love jamming Catalysts.

The ganker appeared on grid. The Catalyst was belonging to outlaw (-10)Inquisitor Reyalstob and he was landing on a concentration of Hulks, Mackinaws and Retrievers. I couldn't notice which mining barge his scout was.

However, our ECM Skiff was alert from the moment it started mining ice 45 minutes ago. At that moment, the appearance of that red Catalyst probably meant danger, terror and panic for many miners nearby, but for me, it was just another source of Highsec happiness, another exciting opportunity to stop a gank. See the difference? (I doubt Revis Owen will see it!)

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[ 2013.09.26 15:44:27 ] (notify) Inquisitor Reyalstob, criminals are not welcome here. Leave now or be destroyed.[ 2013.09.26 15:44:29 ] (combat) Warp scramble attempt from Inquisitor Reyalstob (Catalyst) to Marttu Toivonen (Retriever)Inquisitor Reyalstob went Criminal and inflicted one or two blaster cycles on the Retriever…

...but I promptly applied a successful jamming cycle to the Catalyst before it did enough damage to kill the Retriever.

"To you I say, keep it up, you are creating content for yourself, for others, and even for CODE. That's what the New Order is really all about. Content creation is good for all of Eve, not just the people involved."

-Tengu GribI had to log out shortly after the encounter with Inquisitor Reyalstob. At around 21:15 EVEtime (roughly 5 hours later), I logged back in.As Aura greeted me with her classic (and bot-aspirant) 'Connecting' voice, I was eager to warp to the ice belt again, open D-Scan window and get my Skiff's jammers ready in case some other gankers showed up.

"I want players rushing to log in after they get home because they have a plan to take revenge on someone or to steal their assets or to make sure their rivals industrial never makes it to a market hub."

As I landed at the ice belt, I remembered that the ship's ore hold was still full. After a good amount of time, as I was thinking whether I should empty it or not, I noticed a known gank scout's name in Local. Several seconds later, that pilot named Wolf Soprano suddenly appeared at the belt with his Anathema.

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His ship was named "salvager" or something like "miaouuhhh", I don't remember that. He was sitting very close to a Mackinaw.I couldn't be happier: When a ship like the Anathema suddenly decloaks on top of a mining ship in Highsec, it most probably means that a warp-in is about to be provided to one or more gankers: exactly what I want to see!

…and that was the case. I wasn't surprised when the two Catalysts appeared on D-Scan. Meanwhile, our Skiff was happy and ready to enforce Ganker Jamming™ again.

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While the gankers were in warp towards us, I noticed the sudden appearance of another experienced ECM Anti-Ganker at the ice belt: The Saint Tsero was decloaking his Griffin!

The Catalysts were belonging to outlaws loyalanon and Sophia Soprano and they were landing at the ice belt.[ 2013.09.26 22:01:31 ] (notify) loyalanon, criminals are not welcome here. Leave now or be destroyed.[ 2013.09.26 22:01:37 ] (notify) Sophia Soprano, criminals are not welcome here. Leave now or be destroyed.[ 2013.09.26 22:01:39 ] (combat) Warp scramble attempt from Sophia Soprano [GNK3D] FREND(Catalyst) to AnnOforcer [THE-S](Mackinaw)As they landed at the ice belt, our Skiff jammed Sophia's Catalyst almost immediately, but it took about 4 seconds before one of my jammers could apply a successful jamming cycle on loyalanon's Catalyst. During those 4 seconds, loyalanon managed to gankThe Saint Tsero's Griffin.

In other words, we had prevented them from ganking that Mackinaw and the scene had suddenly turned into a moment of emergent Highsec fight between Gankers and Anti-Gankers (and CONCORD, which, as usual would have failed to prevent the gank if we real players were not there).

[ 2013.09.26 22:02:17 ] Wolf Soprano > jamming procurers﻿[ 2013.09.26 22:02:20 ] Wolf Soprano > interesting﻿[ 2013.09.26 22:02:32 ] Ragnar D IX > what? LOL﻿[ 2013.09.26 22:02:47 ] Thaddeus Drake > WOOOO﻿[ 2013.09.26 22:02:50 ] Ragnar D IX > jam strength cant be that strongGankers tend to say "interesting" after being jammed. Just like Greg Inglis, Wolf Soprano also obeyed to ganker bingo and responded in the same way. At the same time, the exciting energy of our humble mining ship's success was filling the Piekura local again.﻿[ 2013.09.26 22:03:30 ] loyalanon > its ok﻿[ 2013.09.26 22:03:38 ] loyalanon > im going to get some more new order guys and gank that procurerGanker calm down! loyalanon was furious and confused. He thought I was in a Procurer. After being electronically educated by my ECM Skiff, he vowed revenge. He was talking about getting more people and ganking my Skiff, which never happened. Well the problem is, I am a miner who checks Local, D-Scan and Watchlist like every 10 seconds (and there are other miners who do the same). In other words, I play the game. It's nearly impossible to gank a miner who plays the game. However, if one day a gank fleet manages to kill my Skiff, I will say kudos to them, followed by a respectful 'gf' in Local.

﻿[ 2013.09.26 22:04:01 ] Ragnar D IX > how many ecm can he have?The Anti-Ganking content that was emerged from our exhumer made people curious about the idea of ECM-fit mining ships. A guide written by me can be found here.

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Four days later, I was once again mining ice in Piekura. Still vigilant, still eager to jam Catalysts, and guess who appeared in Local again! The same gank scout, Wolf Soprano. I was thinking that after our previous encounter (four days ago), he would think twice before organizing a gank within our sight.

"Veteran gankers knows this, which is why they will often decide to go elsewhere just from seeing regular ECM anti-gankers in local."

While I was thinking of these, his Anathema appeared in our belt for scouting again. Just like 4 days ago, he was sitting right next to a Mackinaw after decloaking. What followed was the quick appearance of the Catalysts on D-Scan and their landing on that Mackinaw.If they had paid attention, they could notice my presence on grid (or maybe they did). Despite the recent ECM experience and despite our Skiff's vigilant presence, they didn't abort the gank and attacked the Mackinaw… will they ever learn?[ 2013.09.30 20:34:56 ] (notify) loyalanon, criminals are not welcome here. Leave now or be destroyed.[ 2013.09.30 20:35:00 ] (notify) Sophia Soprano, criminals are not welcome here. Leave now or be destroyed.[ 2013.09.30 20:35:02 ] (combat) Warp scramble attempt from Sophia Soprano [929]CODE. (Catalyst) to Coran Draig [FRCP]LIB (Mackinaw)

3 seconds later, both Catalysts were already being permajammed by our Skiff.

"It was the light of Anti-Ganking. The light of guidance brought to the darkened minds that lacked ECCM, civilization and innovation."

[ 2013.09.30 20:35:18 ] Azov Rassau > loyalanon: You have foolishly engaged in gankological activity within sight of our Skiff and must suffer the electronic consequences. :)﻿[ 2013.09.30 20:35:33 ] Gaius Cassimedes > picked a good time to empty ore bay I seeMeanwhile, I injected some humor to Local chat by imitating the Sentry Gun notifications. Our exhumer was almost as alert and reactive as those ruthless Sentry Guns, but it was controlled by a player, not computer, and it was using jammers, not guns. Gaius Cassimedes was glad to be away from the gankers, whereas I was feeling happy to be fighting the gankers. That's the difference between a lazy miner and a genuine Anti-Ganker.

Another gank was prevented, another pair of bot-aspirant Catalysts were educated.

﻿[ 2013.09.30 20:35:51 ] Wolf Soprano > interestingOh my, he said 'interesting' again! I'm guessing it's their automatic reaction upon being jammed.﻿[ 2013.09.30 20:35:57 ] Marcus Cassimedes > that didn't go too well eh?﻿[ 2013.09.30 20:36:02 ] loyalanon > not really﻿[ 2013.09.30 20:36:04 ] loyalanon > but its alright﻿[ 2013.09.30 20:36:08 ] Coran Draig > no not well at all lol﻿[ 2013.09.30 20:36:20 ] Coran Draig > dumbass lol﻿[ 2013.09.30 20:36:23 ] loyalanon > it doesnt bother me﻿[ 2013.09.30 20:36:32 ] loyalanon > you would never leave your precious high sec so doesnt bother meI like ganker tears, but I would prefer to see him act like Inquisitor Reyalstob. A gallant and civilized ganker puts a 'gf' in Local and congratulates the Anti-Ganker for teaching him a lesson. However, loyalanon reacted similarly to Liek DarZ: to mask his frustration, he felt obliged to say something and tried to change the subject. It's hard to understand what he was babbling about. At the same time, the saved Mackinaw pilot Coran Draig was acting like a typical angry carebear. It's not by calling gankers "dumbass" that you fight them. I recommend being more polite and playing the game.[ 2013.09.30 20:49:37 ] Thomas Mayaki > i remember when the New Order could clear the ice belts. what happened?﻿[ 2013.09.30 20:50:25 ] loyalanon > they dont live around here﻿[ 2013.09.30 20:50:29 ] Wispear > No they never did that I have minned through many feilds with them working.﻿[ 2013.09.30 20:50:41 ] loyalanon > thomas i remember when you werent a whiney little bitch in local all day﻿[ 2013.09.30 20:50:55 ] Wispear > woo :)﻿[ 2013.09.30 20:51:01 ] loyalanon > what happened?﻿[ 2013.09.30 20:52:24 ] Thomas Mayaki > i lost faith in youIf I had a penny for every time I said "Ganker, calm down", I could buy two 2015 GMC Terrain Denali's. As the heavy amount of ganker rage and tears were fueling our Skiff, many people lost faith in the criminal. However, I am sure an exclusive ganking permit could help him! Meanwhile, BattleClinic was displaying the most original, useful and fun intel information ever seen in EVE history:

Relevant.

It could be said that each involved party had fun during these encounters. I encourage all miners to stay at keyboard and try original things like this. If you want to see people of Highsec cause trouble to gankers, then be the change you want to see in Highsec. Now stop training that boring "Plagioclase Processing" skill book and slap yourself with it. Instead, train "Staying at Keyboard" and "Signal Dispersion" to level 5! Nevertheless, after my general observations and reading the following words of a ganker, I am happy to say that it looks like more miners are doing it already!

"as a hard core code enforcer and miner ganker all up and down hisec, I must say, kudos sir. I got jammed in balle the other day by a procurer and I was utterly flabbergasted! I applaud your efforts to actually play the game!"

-AnonymousIn the next post, I will present another interesting way of fighting the gankers, especially the ones who gank for profit. For more fun Skiff stories, enjoy the following posts:Skiff Stories: Poinen Lights - Currin TrainingSkiff Stories: Otela Lights - Keikira BotsadaSkiff Stories: Atlanins Lights - Tactical Gank DisruptionSkiff Stories: Vikings of Vaajaita (You Shall Not Pass)So I am now asking to Kaely and Revis: are you sure it is "taking content away", "failing" and "not having fun" ? In this post's simple examples only, we saw that gankers loyalanon, Inquisitor Reyalstob, as well as me, The Saint Tsero, other miners and even random people in Piekura Local had fun during the emergent encounters. Like Tengu Grib said,content generation is good for all of EVE, not just the people involved. Remember, the main goal of this blog is to promote, present and explain in-game methods and examples of "doing", not "whining" on forums or demanding more nerfs. I think it's safe to say that Anti-Ganking, when done right, perfectly fits the game rules and provides excellent content for EVE. Thanks for the fun, Piekura. I will be back. o7