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BTW- I forgot to mention another effect from RESA s Not cracking down (on foxes) or taking responsibility, as well as, when RESAs (and their designees) crack

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BTW- I forgot to mention another "effect" from RESA's
Not cracking down (on foxes) or taking responsibility,
as well as, when RESAs (and their designees) crack
down Too Much on chelas (which limits freedom of
expression). Many times the RESA or their designees go
to extremes and place power (ego) and Guidelines
(controls) above love, compassion, and tolerance!
They took the fun and lightness of Being out of things!

The "effect" is that ECKists will withdraw from local
Satsang activities and from the outer ECK organization.
These chelas will now become more private and
continue their spiritual search via the inner planes.
Many of these ECKists still keep in touch with those
local chelas (and those from other areas) who are
more tolerant, loving, and light hearted (fun).

The "effect" of a crack down can, also, cause ECK
Centers to close down. ECK Centers are supposed to
be self-sufficient locally. Usually the Satsang Society
CFO does not re-route any funds to a center ever,
unless, the RESA has made a temporary exception,
or the center is considered a "state" Satsang center.
And, the ESC never contributes funds to keep ECK
centers open. Thus, when ECKists withdraw from
attending meetings, classes, book discussions, EWS,
etc. then funds (donations) also fall-off and centers
close. It all comes back to the dysfunctional people
(from the top down) and the methods used to control
ECKists.

Usually, the ECK Spiritual Center (ESC) never really
knows what is going on locally because most ECKists
tend to be passive and have learned to keep silent
when they see negativity within the org.

Besides, many long-time ECKists know better to
complain about those H.I. foxes who may, also, be
those asked questions about them when their names
come up for approval or Not on the RESA's "Approved
for Initiation" list sent from the ESC!

prometheus wrote:

>

Hi Kaye,
just thought I'd respond to your question you posed about the
"cracking down" by the e-cult org.

>

xekweed wrote:
<snip from eckist's comments attending seminar>
Another great book that was not mentioned very much was a
new one called Welcome to the Wonderful World of ECK: Your
Membership Guidebook. This is different from the two-
volume set called Your Road Map to the ECK Teachings. The
new book explains (probably for the first time for many
members of Eckankar) the actual structure of the organization,
whom to get in contact with if you have questions, and how
to contact your RESA or the Spiritual Services Director in
your local area. Much appreciated information. ESC contact
information is included in the book. The four Celebrations
of Life are explained, as are the duties of members of the
clergy, the duties of the RESA, and so forth. There is a
chart of the spiritual year designations (Year of Giving,
etc. Also included is information about Discourses for
Youth. Very handy guide. In the back of the book are four
brochures: The Temple of ECK, ECK Satsang Class, Membership
Services and You and The Living ECK Master and You.

** I'm going to put this out as a question to those of you who
were much more involved in the organization and held HI rank-
Do they seem to be "cracking down" on non conformity? It does
appear to me that they are becoming a structured organized religion.
Pretty soon I suspect that they will create sacraments, more holy
days and rituals.

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Prometheus:
### Actually, H.I. discipline and the following of Guidelines,
etc. has always varied quite a lot from RESA to RESA, state to
state, and country to country. The ESC tries not to interfere
with local RESAs and gives them a lot of leg room (within the
Guidelines) to deligate or to be more hands on. One thing that
RESAs get to choose is how the ECK Worship Service (EWS) is
structured. There are two choices (formats) and some RESAs
have the Spiritual Services Director decide. The problem with
deligating authority (power) too much or with certain H.I.s
is that this power becomes abused by people that let their
ego's take over. Usually, these problems are ignored and don't
get reported or taken care of until the situation erupts like a
volcano! Other RESAs rule with a velvet covered iron fist!

Also, the Four ECK Celebrations of Life are looked upon
much like sacraments. I've been told that there are mini
or lesser (inner) initiations as a result of the outer ceremony
(or vice versa). These are likened to steps leading up to the
next pleateau. More carrots or B.S. anyone? But really, isn't
this typical of religions!
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Prometheus

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