Planning Meeting

The planning meeting for Winter Camp XLII will be on November 23, 2018 at 1:00 pm. The location is the ancestral home of the Donohue's:2042 MarkeseLinoln Park, MI 48146. Any questions can be addressed to Steve Donohue at 313-919-0106.

The meeting is open to anyone who has a good idea and especially anyone going to camp. You can also pay at this event.

Planning Notes

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On Thursday, 24-May-2018 07:36:36 EDT, K2 said

We could make it a game where the non-cooks guess how many ingredients were in each dish.

On Wednesday, 16-May-2018 12:12:36 EDT, Steve said

A whole meal with a limited number of ingredients might be fun. I mean we could make it easily y serving steak and potatoes or something (or make it a breakfast of bacon and eggs) but it would be more fun to try to cook a meal where you didn't realize the limited palette until after you ate it. Something with an entree, side, bread, and dessert would be a fun challenge.

On Monday, 14-May-2018 08:20:02 EDT, K2 said

Three ingredients would be challenging, could be fun figuring that one out.

Another one that might be fun is the prime meal where the number of ingredients in each dish must be a prime number. Maybe put the youth in charge of that meal?

I think a 31 ingredient spaghetti would be interesting... or is that just called Rand Stew at that point?

Sounds like Jeff is suggesting we amend the CCG course to have a third hole located in the Sea of Tranquility.

On Sunday, 13-May-2018 22:56:33 EDT, Jeff said

I recall that Alan Shepard hit a golf ball about two miles with a single stroke on February 6, 1971. It was a significant news event.

On Sunday, 13-May-2018 21:57:01 EDT, Uncle Ethan said

I like it. I have an "X Ingredient Cookbook" around the house somewhere. I could loan it out if we need ideas.

On Sunday, 13-May-2018 19:39:19 EDT, Steve said

Just saw a video for 3 ingredient peanut butter cookies.

What if we had a meal where everything had to have exactly three ingredients? Alternately maybe a meal where there are x dishes and there has to be a dish with exactly 1, 2 , 3, up to x ingredients.

On Thursday, 10-May-2018 21:27:10 EDT, Steve said

So I heard about two games today that are popular in India. They're both kind of like tag.

In Kho Kho, each team is 9 players, 8 of them sit in a row facing opposite directions. The 9th has to try to catch (tag) the 9 members of the other team. There are some reules about crossing the line of players. Fastest team wins.

Khabadi is another tag game. Two equal teams each of which has a court of their own. One player from one team enters the court of the other. He tries to tag the other players and get back to his court; the other players try to catch and stop him. Anyone who he touches is removed from the field and he scores a opint for each that he touched. If he is caught, the capturing team scores a point and noee are removed.

On Thursday, 10-May-2018 07:56:54 EDT, Steve said

Was listening to Wil Wheaton on the radio today. They asked him about his nerd passions. I think a lot of people know he plays board and role-playing games. Today he mentioned that he likes to make sourdough bread including a collection of starters from different parts of the world.

We need to invite him to Winter Camp.

On Wednesday, 09-May-2018 14:44:18 EDT, K2 said

So is that only factoring in gravity?

If we factored in air resistance, how would that affect its trajectory? I'm thinking based on air resistance alone, we would need to increase the velocity. That is, unless the aerodynamics of the golf ball produce any significant amount of lift?

On Wednesday, 09-May-2018 14:25:48 EDT, Alan said

Assuming no air resistance and flat ground, I calculate a minimum muzzle velocity of 32.2 kTad/Jiffy, or about 215 miles per hour. That's only 4 mph faster than the current world record for fastest golf ball drive.

On Wednesday, 09-May-2018 10:28:11 EDT, K2 said

"They did the math" question...

What would it take to score a hole in one on the cross country golf course?

Based on my SWAG measurement on google maps, it looks like it's approximately 3120 ft (0.59 miles) as the crow flies.

Google says a pro golfer can hit up to ~320 yards (960 feet), and I doubt any of us are going to be able to top that except maybe The Beast.

At what trajectory / velocity would a golf ball need to be propelled for it to theoretically land in the hole, assuming no obstacles outright prevented it being a possibility (e.g. trees)?

Do we need to account for curvature of the earth / Coriolis effect? I'm sure changes in elevation will need to be accounted for.

Just curious.

Somewhat but not really related question... what does Rand Rules have to say about the use of drones?

On Tuesday, 08-May-2018 23:02:38 EDT, Uncle Ethan said

All of Steve's suggestions sound good for a flyer. Given their usual status as important free time activities, I would suggest adding something like, "As usual, Winter Camp will give you an opportunity of experience the coolest board games" or something along those lines.

On Monday, 07-May-2018 16:36:54 EDT, Steve said

I'll put up a facebook event tonight.

Maybe we should think about a price for Winter Camp and a few events we could put on the "marquee" for a flyer. Being able to say we're having an Olympic theme is cool, but it might be better if we could commit to a few events to put on the flyer.

Same thing with some food items. Maybe we could brag about homemade bread, pizza, and donuts as some marquee items -- those are three things you don't see at many campouts and that we're pretty sure to deliver on.

For activities, I'd like to make sure we make it clear it's not just for jocks. Maybe we could talk about the "Fire, Fire, and More Fire" opening ceremony, the Spears and Spelling Biathlon, Homemade Sleds, and maybe a Winter Decathlon?

Are there other things we should consider for a flyer?

Last year's prices were 45.45 and 50.50. I'd propose a $2.02 bump to each as we lost about $15 last year.

Just 5,766 jiffys until the El Mediodia party. That’s Sunday, July 8th, 2PM for those unfamiliar with the universal measurement system. The festivities will be at The Wilson's, 9515 Woodbend Dr., Saline 48176 (about 6 miles south of I-94 and 3.5 miles west of US-23).Join us to celebrate Winter Camp 42 being closer than WC 41 with an afternoon of food, fellowship and fun. All Winter campers and their families past, present, and future welcome.

Just like last year, bring a dish to pass and lawn chairs. We will be providing a main dish and soft drinks or could throw some burgers on the grill, for those heretics in the group.

This year in addition to the badminton tournament, we will be featuring Model T rides and an opportunity to try your hand at driving a car that you select gears with your feet and operate the throttle (and ignition timing) with your hands.

Please feel free to pass along this invitation to other interested parties, post on Facebook, etc., for those not on the elders group or who don’t regularly check the website.

See you in about 9 weeks,Doug and Joy Wilson

On Thursday, 03-May-2018 21:34:18 EDT, Steve said

I started updating the Encyclopedia WinterCampica today. I started by updating all the people.

Never made it before, but found a recipe online for Gingerbread Pancakes with Whipped Cinnamon Butter. Sounds way too delicious to not make it for wintercamp: www.simplyscratch.com/2017/12/gingerbread-pancakes.html

On Friday, 27-Apr-2018 09:25:13 EDT, Uncle Ethan said

I made a list of some foods that I think would be interesting to make from scratch. If any of these find their way onto the menu, I'd be happy to be in the kitchen helping.

What if we had some "sports medicine" or a science portion where we measured things. Like do stronger/younger/older people have a stronger knee reflex. If you do that thing where you empty a gallon jug one-handed, does your strength matter in terms of the floating effect?

On Wednesday, 28-Mar-2018 19:37:01 EDT, Uncle Ethan said

Limerick contest sounds great. I like the volume part.

On Wednesday, 28-Mar-2018 08:08:09 EDT, Steve said

Just had a revelation:

Our Olympics could include Masked Mexican Wrestling...

Okay, more serious note: we could have a team limerick contest. You get about an hour to write limericks maybe on a series of topics. MOst is s win and then there'll be a judged version too for the best limericks. Probably some rules like no rhyming with Nantucket, for example.

On Friday, 16-Mar-2018 07:57:23 EDT, Uncle Ethan said

I can't believe I forgot Camp Moose Peterson!

On Thursday, 15-Mar-2018 21:21:12 EDT, Steve said

would Moose Peterson and Rifle River be eligible?

We could do whatever we wanted including no theme other than "Scout-like".

I'll propose a follow up to Steve's comment. "Something else" teams could be .... OLD CAMPS! Imagine Team CHR going up against Team Brady in the gold medal Snow Soccer game! There could also be Silver Trails and Mikanakawa teams.

On Thursday, 15-Mar-2018 15:53:30 EDT, K2 said

Sounds great! As we generate these ideas, if anyone is interested in having the honor of coordinating the activity, say the word and you've got dibs! But if you wait too long, you might miss out on the opportunity to lead that activity! Beat the christmas rush! Volunteer TODAY!

On Thursday, 15-Mar-2018 13:07:11 EDT, Steve said

Maybe we should consider forming 3 or 4 teams on the first day. Some events would be team events, others individual. We could also consider making team flags and cheers right after lunch on the first day. Team names could be real or made up countries or something else.

So everyone is fine with an olympics theme? I like the need a right answer to throw the spear or knife idea, the spelling bee idea would be cool, and i definitely would like to see a decathalon type thing. Another idea i had was Mas Wrestling, ive seen a lot of videos of it and always thought it would be something neat to try

On Friday, 23-Feb-2018 02:03:35 EST, Steve said

Should have been more clear. There are targets with numbers or letters you have to hit. This letters or numbers are the right answers

On Thursday, 22-Feb-2018 23:18:32 EST, Steve said

I wonder if we could do some sort of mixed events. Like you have to get the right answer and then throw a spear or knife or whatever and stick it. Maybe we could do something with ice and breaking it. Sort of combine getting the right answer with a physical challenge. That could be a team event...

I think a spelling bee would be great. We could split up into self designated difficulty groups (think of them as "weight classes") and have several winners.

On Wednesday, 21-Feb-2018 21:01:44 EST, Steve said

Just saw a video of different party food rings. Seems like we should have a ring meal at Winter Camp and maybe some bundt cake just to carry the theme of the Olympics.

On Wednesday, 21-Feb-2018 19:42:08 EST, Steve said

I think we need to make sure that at least some of our Olympic events rely on technique rather then just physical ability. We might also consider some math or trivia. Olympic spelling bee? Just need to make sure we have enough different contests that everyone has a chance to win something (or at least do well).

Steve- on your nickname list back on 1-12-18 - you missed me - "Oak". Thanks. Ian-K2- Uncle Ethan- I can get Olympic type medals for games. I also have some hula hoops that are taped together like the Olympic symbol. I like the decathalon idea. We can have guys try cross country skiing a little- shoot targets and move on for spear throw.?? I have tons more ideas and games that worked at previous Klondikes. I am already saving cans to make more smudge pot candles. I have the cardboard for both sleds and candles.

On Wednesday, 14-Feb-2018 21:33:57 EST, K2 said

Duct tape is a huge advantage when making sleds from cardboard. Highly recommend using it.

On Wednesday, 14-Feb-2018 15:15:30 EST, Ethan said

Craft idea - We could make sleds out of cardboard and twine (or duct tape). Then, we can take them down the face or maybe the BC dam.

I think the lodge had did this for a few year around 2007-10, but I'm not sure. That was around the time I stopped regularly attending events.

We'd need a "no snow" contingency plan for this event of course.

On Tuesday, 13-Feb-2018 18:21:05 EST, K2 said

We'll be like Amazon trying to find a new HQ!

On Tuesday, 13-Feb-2018 14:59:08 EST, Steve said

I think different cabins should try to be selected as the host for camp. Reps for different cabins could put together a bid package explaining why a particular cabin/subcamp should host Winter Camp XLII.

On Tuesday, 13-Feb-2018 14:13:17 EST, Ethan said

Steve's ideas sound good to me. I especially like the idea of using host countries as organizing principles for different days.

On Monday, 12-Feb-2018 20:13:40 EST, Steve said

Olympics is doing pretty well. I think if we go with it we should have meals from different host nations. This clears the way for Limburger as lamb is popular in Greece. We could also have Coney dogs as a lunch. Maybe we could have homemade baklava for a dessert somewhere.

I would suggest we skip the Future Olympics but do have some Olympic style events. Maybe we could do like one venue a day with some events from that location. We should do some real events like running and spear throwing but also some made up ones like synchronized kneading or rhythmic table setting.

We should have the biathlon (running and poker) and maybe we could have a contest where we build podiums or invent medals with craft stuff from Uncle Etan

On Tuesday, 30-Jan-2018 11:13:12 EST, Ethan said

Ian set up a poll to get feedback on these at the Winter Camp Facebook group. I think it's set up so you can add ideas. Not sure how long it's open for business, but I think it's active right now (Tuesday, 1/30)

On Monday, 29-Jan-2018 13:43:21 EST, K2 said

Could play 99 red balloons on a loop too!

On Monday, 29-Jan-2018 12:02:02 EST, Timothy kasprzak said

If its not too late for theme ideas what about a cold war fallout theme, we cpuld have pur own doomaday clock, maybe make sheltors like we did a few years back. Mre meal, capture the objective cpuld be capture the nuke lol. I feel theres a lot that can ve done with the theme.

On Wednesday, 24-Jan-2018 18:39:37 EST, K2 said

In my first tentative official act as pending adult adviser, I approve of Uncle Ethan's message.

On Saturday, 20-Jan-2018 10:36:23 EST, Uncle Ethan said

In my first official act as Activities Adviser, I have recruited the leaders of Winter Camps I and XLI to plan and execute at Murder Game at Winter Camp XLII.

On Thursday, 18-Jan-2018 21:21:28 EST, Jeff said

There is an Access version of the Murder Game used in 2004. Prior to that we used a TRS-80 and were slow typists.

On Thursday, 18-Jan-2018 13:48:22 EST, Steve said

One of the issues with the Murder Game as we've typically played it is that only a couple of people actually get to kill anyone. It's probably more realistic to have very few murders, but it might be more fun to play it like an assassination thing where everyone has a target. When the guy targeting me succeeds, I give him my target. It keeps working like that until someone gets themselves as a target and at that point, you know they've won.

On Thursday, 18-Jan-2018 12:13:51 EST, Uncle Ethan said

Any youth out there interested in being the coordinator of the Murder Game? Alternatively, does anyone have a recommendation for a leader?

On Wednesday, 17-Jan-2018 13:52:37 EST, K2 said

Consequences could be one thing. We could also restrict it by requiring a specific method. IE with a poisoned batch of rand stew. Maybe like a reverse clue game? Where it tells you who, where and with what you're supposed to do the deed. You get more points for each criteria you get. Some points for one. More points If you get two. Even more points for all three. Tie breakers could be time, not knowing who was the hit man, etc.

On Wednesday, 17-Jan-2018 12:22:22 EST, Steve said

I think Jeff wrote a version of the Murder Game that works using Access but I'm not sure. It would still take someone to run it though. The game needs something to provide consequences; right now if I'm ordered to kill Jeff, only my own desire to be clever stops me from just walking up and shooting him in front of the whole world. That works for some people but not everyone. It woudl be cool if there was something in game to discourage public killings.

On Tuesday, 16-Jan-2018 19:50:13 EST, Uncle Ethan said

Looking over the manual makes me think we could have a Murde Game as a “big” activity. It might be useful to recruit a youth leader specifically to set up and run such a game.

Lacrosse would fit in with a an Iroquois theme. I've never tried to play it, but I think we could have fun.

On Sunday, 14-Jan-2018 19:50:25 EST, said

What if we contemplated Native Americans or perhaps Iroquois as a theme? We could have some traditional foods for a meal or two, play some games and activities, and work on regalia for the team. We could also do other Indian Lore related stuff.

On Saturday, 13-Jan-2018 17:31:12 EST, Jeff said

Our means could produce a significant and memorable ceremony.

On Saturday, 13-Jan-2018 15:06:57 EST, K2 said

I'd be all in for putting on an unforgettable show at the face... at least what would be within our means. Remote ignition fire pit, W's, etc. Fire, fire and more fire.

On Friday, 12-Jan-2018 23:06:07 EST, Steve said

Didn’t cubs (maybe 1058 too) make donuts with refrigerated dough back in the day?

We’d have todo some planning on what sorts of things we wanted for the site and characters. Maybe we’d do a lot of regaliabut we could do candles and other stuff too. We could also have some training on performance since we’d have some pretty good performers there.

El Mediodia Party - Save the Date July 8th (Sunday Afternoon) at the Wilson's in Saline. Details later.

Lots of great ideas and activities already for XLII. I would be totally up for homemade doughnuts!

Maybe we could have a last ceremony at the BC "Face" site with all (or at least some) of the trimmings. Could be a Brotherhood or just for ourselves.

On Friday, 12-Jan-2018 15:06:32 EST, Uncle Ethan said

Regarding the regalia, do you think we'd have enough stuff to work on keep everyone busy? It seems like we could if there were groups for head dresses, shirts, trousers, and so on. I could probably get my hands on a loaner sewing machine. I married into a family with lots of sewing machines.

Being as 2018 is an olympic year i believe, i think an olympic theme would be neat, have a torch lighting ceremony, point system for activities and a medal ceremony at the end of the weekette, i can even build the boxes. But some of the other ideas would be fun too, is there a way we could set up a poll system so theres a group consensus on theme? Also in regards to meal prep, my dad and i have tried to get my troop to do this for years, do some prep work before like chop lettuce etc, or if theres a meal that takes forever to cook like beef stee for example, make it, freeze it, and bring it up. If anyone needs to contact me directly my number is 3133531095, text is preferred, just please include your name if you do

On Friday, 12-Jan-2018 12:04:53 EST, K2 said

It's still a work in progress. Here's the theme suggestions that have been offered so far (if I miss any please chime in):CanadaUSALumberjacksAmerican Folklore/LegendsFamous UnclesBig project activity (making a movie, having 50/100 dish banquet)SpaceReturn of the One Hit WondersOne and Done

Sorry i havent been participating in the discussions ive been a little busy, i wouldnt mind being the youth leader again,can anyone outline for me the big points people have posted and theme ideas?

On Thursday, 11-Jan-2018 12:06:37 EST, Steve said

I think an Uncle Ethan's Craft Hour on ceremonial regalia could work. I think Kristie and I can both sew well enough to make the pieces of an outfit and we have a couple of sewing machines lying around.

On Thursday, 11-Jan-2018 11:10:00 EST, Ethan said

Any thoughts about doing some ceremonial training or prep at Winter Camp? We could make candles or do something with outfits or something like that. There was some interested in "More OA Stuff" on the evaluations. This would be especially fitting if Brian Mann come back and is still in his role as ceremonies adviser. Another way to integrate more fully with Order of the Arrow program would be to do some sort of leadership or practical (like Unit Elections) training.

On Thursday, 11-Jan-2018 00:54:20 EST, Steve said

In the lore of Winter Camp, 41 years of no squirrel clearly makes it a tradition, not an outrage..

On Wednesday, 10-Jan-2018 23:12:07 EST, Steve said

Maybe Winter Camp needs a 25th Amendment.

On Wednesday, 10-Jan-2018 21:40:58 EST, Steve said

We haven't updated our nickname list in about 20 years. I'm sure we've missed a few. My list would say:

41 years with no squirrel on the menu is 41 years too many! STRIKE!! STRIKE!!! No squirrel, no peace!! :: flips over table ::

On Wednesday, 10-Jan-2018 18:24:09 EST, Steve said

I'd still say no.

On Wednesday, 10-Jan-2018 15:07:37 EST, K2 said

Never say never! A squirrel is similar to a rat... we could try squirrel on a stick. I think it loses something though...

On Wednesday, 10-Jan-2018 10:59:12 EST, Steve said

I want to make sure we're all agreed that "Real Rat on a Stick" won't happen.

On Wednesday, 10-Jan-2018 10:54:07 EST, K2 said

Bagels might be a fun one to try as well!

I can take one for the team and be a kitchen assistant for taste testing / quality assurance when it comes to making the doughnuts... wouldn't want there to be any sub-par ones that made it out the door!

On Wednesday, 10-Jan-2018 07:57:36 EST, Ethan said

Adding another item to the "let's try making it from scratch" list - doughnuts. I'd be happy to be an adult in the kitchen for a doughnut snack or breakfast.

I was trying to think of a way to put this delicately, but you're absolutely right. I truly hadn't carefully pondered that enough. A Day of Hiking with Jeff sounds like a PBS special. He could be the hiking version of Bob Ross, but with less hair. Really though, I think it's still doable so long as there are clear parameters. Maybe it could be mob boss style where The Don could be in charge of the Weekette, but at the November planning meeting, each day has a consigliere.

On Sunday, 07-Jan-2018 22:22:29 EST, Steve said

I'd be a little afraid of "one and done". What if your day has things you're not good at? I don't think we'd want to have each advisor/youth determine their own schedule for the day -- Jeff's day of hiking and my day of boardgames might not appeal to everyone.

On Sunday, 07-Jan-2018 11:38:05 EST, said

Raze the Village is a good uncle activity too. Uncle Ethan builds it and Uncle Rob razes it...

On Sunday, 07-Jan-2018 07:17:55 EST, Ethan said

Raize the Village was a good one time only affair.

I think the Salute to the States banquet was only held once and I’d love to be a part of a second round.

I started looking through the encyclopedia for One Hit Wonders but it'd be helpful if people who were there could chip in with memories. (It's a big encyclopedia.) My thought wasn't necessarily that each day be filled with One Hit Wonders. Maybe a couple of activities and a meal/snack, and new complimentary activities/meals to fill things out.

I also thought that for some future WC, it would be fun to have One and Done adviser/youth days. There would be one theme for the weekette, but each day would see a different adviser/youth combo. This would allow each team to focus in hard on the details of their day.

On Saturday, 06-Jan-2018 19:41:01 EST, Steve said

Kristie wants to do one called "Return of the One Hit Wonders". Activities that we did once that were pretty successful but never repeated for some reason.

The first one i thought of was Extreme Bowling, but I'm sure there are a bunch more.

I think American Folklore/Legends would be a good theme. Maybe a different one for each day. Also would support the big project/special banquet idea.

For any who have taken Faygo bottles to return, Walmart glass bottle machine took them no problem. Returned $10.60 (about half Faygo bottles). Will forward to the local WC treasurer.

On Wednesday, 03-Jan-2018 12:09:43 EST, Ethan said

Based on the feedback I've come across, I think we might be able to get a lot of excitement out of the youth about some sort of big "project" activity or meal (like making a movie or having a 50/100 dish banquet). There's seems to have been a little more appetite for direction (at least in terms of the kitchen) that we adults provided. Also, it's been a while since to took on a major undertaking. Any thoughts?

On Wednesday, 03-Jan-2018 11:30:04 EST, Ethan said

I think a “Tall Tales” or American Folklore theme could be really good for activities and meals.

On Wednesday, 03-Jan-2018 09:34:56 EST, Steve said

I was thinking about maybe "Lumberjacks" as a theme but wasn't sure there would be enough things we could do. That led me to the thought of "American Folklore/Legends" where we could maybe do activities based on things like Bigfoot, Pecos Bill, Paul Bunyan, Johnny Appleseed, and maybe some others.

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On Tuesday, 02-Jan-2018 16:20:31 EST, K2 said

A couple theme ideas that might be easier to embrace, Canada or USA.

On Tuesday, 02-Jan-2018 16:17:38 EST, K2 said

Something we did at work that was fun was everyone wrote down 3 things about themselves on a sticky note, 2 were true and 1 was false. All of the sticky notes were put into a bowl and were randomly read one at a time. After each note was read, we would try to guess who it was describing and then we'd try to guess which one was false.

On Tuesday, 02-Jan-2018 15:28:54 EST, Steve said

I think for next year we could have a “Some of Us” game as a get to know you. You have to say something about yourself that is true about you and 3-6 others. Too many or too few and you don’t get to eat yet. After the first try by everyone, they go in descending order of commonality. Another idea would be it should be true if their table but limited in scope for others.

On Tuesday, 02-Jan-2018 12:35:35 EST, Steve said

You just did a great job. Hard to see why anyone would want to step in. Maybe you’ll be the next Stev Donohue :)

On Tuesday, 02-Jan-2018 06:11:41 EST, K2 said

Unless someone else claims it by 11:59 PM WCST on 2018-01-31, I will declare myself as the adult adviser for WC XLII! Should someone else claim it, I'll happily serve as the Activities / Program adviser for them!

On Monday, 01-Jan-2018 10:47:28 EST, Steve Donohue said

Any volunteers for leader or adviser?

On Wednesday, 27-Dec-2017 17:43:31 EST, Ethan said

Let’s make baked beans from scratch

On Wednesday, 27-Dec-2017 17:41:14 EST, Ethan said

The previous comment was not left by me

On Wednesday, 27-Dec-2017 17:28:04 EST, Ethan rein said

The revolution of no utensils and roof climbing begins

On Tuesday, 14-Nov-2017 00:23:37 EST, Steve said

Anyone ready to serve as the youth leader or the adviser for Winter Camp 42.

This one might, after all, be the answer to the question we all wonder... What is the Meaning of Life?

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