Just in Wary alone with no extra pets installed there are well over 400 references to rox in scripts. conversion to seamlessly use another file manager would involve making a rox wrapper for compatibility that accounts for all of these references. You are talking everything from desktop background and icons to file extension handling and system integration._________________Check out my github repositories. I may eventually get around to updating my blogspot.

I'm not so new anymore
I wasn't talking about replacing Rox, just mainly changing the reference to the home icon on the desktop and a few of the most common instances
it was just a thought, I suppose xfce is relatively easy to install in 5.2 anyway._________________Thanks!
Scott I'm a PC... Without Windows

It can be drastically simplified depending on the specific options of the file manager chosen - I did a separate case statements for all the different options so it will be easier to get the template going. The ones that are the same can be combined by separating them with a "|" before the ")" ..._________________Check out my github repositories. I may eventually get around to updating my blogspot.

An increasing problem: Wifi channel congestion. I was called out today to sort out a
repeated dropout problem at a local hotel. They have two access points, wire connected,
using channels originally picked for lack of contention...

Since when neighboring businesses have installed wifi

There were 13 access points visible from various parts of the building (6 of them on
channel 11) and 3 contending the hotel's primary access point.

OK, I reconfigured to avoid the worst of the congestion but there's no accounting for
neighboring users.

Also, many of us use more than one access point at work/home and although it's easy to
switch from the connect wizards it does add a chore, especially where contention
dodging is involved.

So:

An intelligent access point picker:

Given a stored list of configurations
- scan available access points
- 'quality' score access points with matching configurations
- auto-select best score and attempt connect.
- retry with next best if fail.

Quality is a function of strongest uncontested signal,
or greatest strength vs contention
(sum of squares should be a good first approximation)
I'm not sure how to score weak uncontested signals against strong contested ones.

I believe one very important prerequisite for reaching a broad array of users is support for their keyboard maps. I am from Canada and have a Canadian bilingual keyboard, not a Canadian English nor a Canadian French, and even the us-en map is really different from these. This is a barrier for me to express myself efficiently while programming or using the bash.

I am aware that I can build key map files, but I really believe that it would be nice to be able to choose for the right map from a list than having thousands of user to recreate the same keyboard maps, that is if at all. Last two times I installed and abandonned Puppy, this was among the very top reasons.

Don't know if it has been mentioned in this LONG thread, but looking beyond Puppy 5.25 ...

- I'm sure it's been mentioned before, but having an easy to customize menu capability. There may a package that does this, but I haven't found it. OEMs and corporate IT guys might bring in Puppy if it's look and feel can be 'cleaned up' by them; think Splashtop replacement.

- I know that grub2 is a big can o'snakes, but one use I've found for it is booting CD images reliably; grub4dos doesn't do that IME. I was able to install grub2 standalone from a Parted Magic CD, then I could boot a Puppy CD image (even easier than a frugal install). Perhaps an option to load the grub2 scripts and binaries into their own isolated tree. Eh, probably more trouble than it's worth.

- I'm surprised that XFCE is an Puppy option - IMO it is not really that lightweight and unfortunately is somewhat tied to the deprecated GNOME2 toolset. Due to the general obnoxiousness and immaturity of the unity and gnome-shell DE's I'm liking LXDE more these days.

- I don't have any significant complaints about Rox-Filer, it is one of my favorite utilities. I was very surprised how powerful and intuitive it is.

Thanks for listening!

BTW mods - how about a new sticky thread for post 5.25 suggestions? It's pretty tough to wade through this one.

That some good Dev work on the SFStray version so it is fool proof on that new puppy. It is a very practical fast easy to use SFS load and unloader on the fly with Icon on a Dock like pop up on the Desktop._________________I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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