My only question is "How much of this makes sense?" In the first film, there were a lot of convenient plot twist, like the spiel with Megatron's navigational system and how the All Spark worked, and some weird things like the Bat/Trans-Signal and- again- how the All Spark worked. Is it more of the same or does this movie go for less MacGuffins?

My only question is "How much of this makes sense?" In the first film, there were a lot of convenient plot twist, like the spiel with Megatron's navigational system and how the All Spark worked, and some weird things like the Bat/Trans-Signal and- again- how the All Spark worked. Is it more of the same or does this movie go for less MacGuffins?

Almost nothing. So much of the plot is pointless, it's better not to expect it to be logical.

Who ever has seen the film, could you please answer these questions posed by Devin over at CHUD. I kind of find them hilarious:

- What/who is the Fallen getting revenge on?

- Why can only Optimus Prime kill The Fallen (since he's a Prime as well) but three Decepticons can kill Optimus?

- Why did the Fallen wait 3000 years to find the Matrix of Leadership, which was about three miles from the sun destroying machine?

- How does Jetfire open the back door of the Smithsonian and end up in California? How does Jetfire teleport Sam, Mikaela, the new roommate, John Turturro and Wheelie but have Bumblebee and the Twins show up in Egypt with them? Since when could the Transformers teleport at will?

Who ever has seen the film, could you please answer these questions posed by Devin over at CHUD. I kind of find them hilarious:

- What/who is the Fallen getting revenge on?

- Why can only Optimus Prime kill The Fallen (since he's a Prime as well) but three Decepticons can kill Optimus?

- Why did the Fallen wait 3000 years to find the Matrix of Leadership, which was about three miles from the sun destroying machine?

- How does Jetfire open the back door of the Smithsonian and end up in California? How does Jetfire teleport Sam, Mikaela, the new roommate, John Turturro and Wheelie but have Bumblebee and the Twins show up in Egypt with them? Since when could the Transformers teleport at will?

Spoilers:

1.)The fallen is getting revenge on the other primes, who turned against him when he turned bad.

2.)Bad writing I guess.

3.)He needed the allspark to find it.

4.) A.It doesn't say where they are.
B.The twins, wheelie and bumblebee are all with Sam etc at the museum.
C.Since this film apparently.

Who ever has seen the film, could you please answer these questions posed by Devin over at CHUD. I kind of find them hilarious:

- What/who is the Fallen getting revenge on?

- Why can only Optimus Prime kill The Fallen (since he's a Prime as well) but three Decepticons can kill Optimus?

- Why did the Fallen wait 3000 years to find the Matrix of Leadership, which was about three miles from the sun destroying machine?

- How does Jetfire open the back door of the Smithsonian and end up in California? How does Jetfire teleport Sam, Mikaela, the new roommate, John Turturro and Wheelie but have Bumblebee and the Twins show up in Egypt with them? Since when could the Transformers teleport at will?

See, Michael Bay tried to distract you by showing you Megan Fox's body to cover up the holes of his plot (if there is any) but you beat him.

Just got out of the film for a second time, better second time around.

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Originally Posted by Orb

How was Fallen and what did he do?

Fallen was pretty awesome. He came to earth 100's of years ago and tried to wipe out the human race for the sun. Primes would use a machine to drain suns energy into energon. But only planets with no life so the sun missing would not kill anyone. The Fallen betrayed his brothers when he tried to take the suns energy.

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Originally Posted by The Chibi Kiriyama

My only question is "How much of this makes sense?" In the first film, there were a lot of convenient plot twist, like the spiel with Megatron's navigational system and how the All Spark worked, and some weird things like the Bat/Trans-Signal and- again- how the All Spark worked. Is it more of the same or does this movie go for less MacGuffins?

Makes more sense then the first. More of a bigger story, but is told well.

I'm not taking a swipe at anyone, but you've gotta realise, you've got film with big robots....with Michael Bay directing....was anyone seriously hoping or expecting a film which was gonna win an Oscar or other award for 'Best Actor' or 'Best Director'?? A proper 'film-film'? It does what it's designed to do. Rake in money.

Personally, I loved it. Don't really have any gripes. Maybe Wheelie was a bit pants....but thats it. Loved the Twins. The whole "I will bust your face..." was brilliant.

Couldn't see any major plotholes that you'd lose sleep over. Only thing I didn't quite 'get', is they must have duplicated the Constructicons, or each Constructicon had 2 variations. In the last part with Devastator, he's clearly in one piece destroying stuff, while you see Long Haul, Scrapper etc in the fight with Sam, Mikaela, Lennox etc. Odd...

But yeh, as far as Summer blockbusters go, and as far as a sequel, to me it did what it should. Took characters we knew, developed them a bit more, gave us some new characters, and improved on the first.

9/10.

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Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1

Even the hardest-boiled egg has a soft and delicious interior.

But that doesn't mean it won't still chip off a piece of its own shell and stab you in the face with it.

Another one popped into my head:
How are the new Autobots explained? Where do they come from? Cyberton is supposedly Decepticon territory. Where they taking refuge among the stars and heard Prime's call? Did they land as pods?