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rumblesushi wrote:
Not sure how you can be unsure of PS Plus tbh, it's the best service any console manufacturer has ever offered, just unbelievable value.

It's good, and I'm a subscriber, but it's not for everyone. For a start people might be very picky with their games, and secondly if you're a renter then PS+ loses a lot of value because you can play what you want and pay very little for it.

SG59 wrote:
Because to get access to part of your games library your having to pay £40 a year. If you don't, it all goes out the window. And if you decide not to re-subscribe, you've just lost a whole lot of money for what exactly?

rumblesushi wrote:
Not sure how you can be unsure of PS Plus tbh, it's the best service any console manufacturer has ever offered, just unbelievable value.

It's good, and I'm a subscriber, but it's not for everyone. For a start people might be very picky with their games, and secondly if you're a renter then PS+ loses a lot of value because you can play what you want and pay very little for it.

That's kinda the thing for me too. I don't rent, but a lot of these games are the sort you'd want to own aren't they? Exclusives etc...

@CharlieStCloud I suppose it comes down to what the above poster said; The person. I don't care for MP and I usually only pick up certain games that I want. I'll take a gamble here and there if I see something cheap, but that's about it.

But then surely paying £40 a year and getting around 40 good to great games is even better for you? That'd get you 4 or 5 games even if you're buying cheap.

It gives you freedom to try/complete a ton of good titles on a tiny budget and gives you discounts on even more. It's time limited, sure, but a year is enough to play a lot of games. You then choose to continue or not.

I don't really understand the "renting" argument. You could play stuff on plus and then pick up the stuff you want to keep later at a fraction of the price. It still saves you money.

Derblington wrote:
I don't really understand the "renting" argument. You could play stuff on plus and then pick up the stuff you want to keep later at a fraction of the price. It still saves you money.

My renting 'argument' or the "you're just renting games on PS+" argument?

If plus retains its current form I can't see me not renewing while I still pay games. So for me it's not renting them. Some I've played before, some I don't want to try but the rest are filling a hole for about £30 a year with quality titles.

My vita is full of games and all ps4 owners will get resogun? and driveclub on day one.

Same here chrisno21. For me it's buying the games at a pittance, because I see no reason not to subscribe. Jesus, when I played Street Fighter online I paid 40 quid a year for xbl, just to play online. Now I pay that much for online play and about 40 games that are mine to keep and play whenever I want, as long as I keep subscribing.

Being digital is great too, no disc swapping, and my PS3 is nice and quiet. You can't even compare it to a disc rental service, having to fuss around sending disks, and receiving 2 scratched pieces of shit to play at a time

I just hope they keep up its current form and start to deliver solid games for the PS4, as it is indeed ridiculous value. Almost all the games I would have otherwise bought for the Vita I've got on PS Plus, I think Virtua Tennis is the only one that hasn't. Plus many for the PS3 too.

SG59 wrote:
Because to get access to part of your games library your having to pay £40 a year. If you don't, it all goes out the window. And if you decide not to re-subscribe, you've just lost a whole lot of money for what exactly?

If you don't want to resubscribe, then you haven't lost money because you've played way more than £40 worth of games in that year. It's incredible value.

They're attempting to force me to get one of their bundles instead of the just the console on its own that I ordered.

Your current PS4 console selection is NOT available. Any other products you may have in this order are unaffected. However, we need you to UPDATE the console/bundle selection in this order ASAP. To do this, simply tick the box next to the NEW console option(s) you require.

Weirdly, they also mentioned that I can order as many consoles as I want...

You can now INCREASE the number of consoles on your order - and ALL will arrive on day of release!!! That's guaranteed;

Thankfully I preordered at ShopTo as well (stupidly ordered after the day one guarantee cutoff point, so preordered at a couple of places to increase my chances of a release day console...), who will deliver on the 29th, aren't forcing me to do buy anything I don't want, have a 12 month warranty.

They're attempting to force me to get one of their bundles instead of the just the console on its own that I ordered.

Your current PS4 console selection is NOT available. Any other products you may have in this order are unaffected. However, we need you to UPDATE the console/bundle selection in this order ASAP. To do this, simply tick the box next to the NEW console option(s) you require.

Weirdly, they also mentioned that I can order as many consoles as I want...

You can now INCREASE the number of consoles on your order - and ALL will arrive on day of release!!! That's guaranteed;

Thankfully I preordered at ShopTo as well (stupidly ordered after the day one guarantee cutoff point, so preordered at a couple of places to increase my chances of a release day console...), who will deliver on the 29th, aren't forcing me to do buy anything I don't want, have a 12 month warranty.

That sucks, I've used them for super cheap steam Keys before but nothing physical. I think I'll stick to that plan if they pull shit like this!

Holy shit that's well dodgy. Are they even allowed to do that after all the who har with toys r us forcing 360 bundles on customers back in 2005? Breach of contract? How dies it even work with online retails who state you don't have a contract of sale until the take payment?