well said sk with the new ramp in the bayou . Lues and the river get pounded on a lot . There are nine boats lined up to fish every stump in there. One boat moves offanother boat will move on it in just a few minutes. These well known spots if you catcha few fish on them they will spook off quickly but if you move off of the major spots andfish smaller branches or piles near by you can fill a limit off of them. You are also right fish bite wet hooks . Keep your bait in the water and quit running all over the lakethe time you use running you can use catching. do not try to fish the whole lake pick onesmall area and learn it well . There are more fish in one creek than you can catch if you fishedit every day of your life.

Well SK and Sticko, you are right. I have been just fishing my old spots. I keep seeing really small clumps of brush or just a stick on the DI, and i just figured such a small piece of cover wouldn't hold any fish. Based on your comments, I should be fishing them. The problem is that even with my Helix, I have trouble re-finding them after I mark them on the sonar. I need a unit that GPS is good to a foot, not 15 feet like this one seems to be. I guess I need to do what Sticko does and drop a marker the instant I see anything on the sonar, and just not try to mark it and then go back and find it again. Next time out, I will avoid all my old regular spots and try to focus on just finding new ones and fishing them. I re-spooled all my rods with 20 pound braid with a 4 foot length of 10 pound fluorocarbon leader. I sure can feel the wood better with this set up. I have had several people tell me that the bite is better "later in the day", and I have been leaving around noon to get out of the heat. Maybe I should just wait until late afternoon to go next time. Thanks SK for your comments, and you too Sticko.

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It would help you a lot to use your side image you have for the consoleto find the piles . Since you bought the down image you never even carry your side image with you . If you practice with it you will be able to find yourmarked piles very easy. You need slow down you try to go in thereat 200 miles per hour. and your over shooting your target.your depth finder can not adjust as fast as your outboard motor.have you ever even used the go to feature on the unit to find the way point.you have to remember that your finder is only reading 1/3 of the depth water you are sitting in. so if your in 9 feet of water your search beam is a 3 foot circleif you are in 7 feet the circle is even smaller. this is less than the whole back end of your boat where your transducer is located. you need to get the back end of your boatright over the target. if you go fast it will only be a blip. My graph shows the back of my boat going over the waypoint when that happens i drop a marker. I stop the out\board get on the troll motor go back and circle the marker i just dropped till i find right where the pile is and i will drop a new marker right on the pile. most of the timethe first marker i throw out is right on the pile. Have fun catching fish off your new piles.

Guess I need to start taking it again, huh? I guess I could sit at the center console where the 898 SI unit is, run the trolling motor from there remotely, and throw out markers at the back of the boat where that transducer is, then come around with me in the front and find them again with the Helix DI unit. I'll try that.

_________________Dutch"Spider Man"

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now you have the right idea you can buy the most expensive things on the marketbut if you don't take the time to use them properly they will not catch you any fish,the way you are thinking now you will be on fish in no time at all.

Guess I need to start taking it again, huh? I guess I could sit at the center console where the 898 SI unit is, run the trolling motor from there remotely, and throw out markers at the back of the boat where that transducer is, then come around with me in the front and find them again with the Helix DI unit. I'll try that.

from what humminbird says for the 898 si your best reading comes from 3 to 6 mph can you

do that with the troll motor. I just idle my big motor about 4 mph and toss my marker outthe back on which side the pile shows up it usually close enough to the pile you will find iteasy with the troll motor from there.

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