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shiny question

i start hunting for shinies in my games and i'm on SS now and i really want a Lugia and a Suicune... Where do i have to save before SR'ing ?
Suicune = before waking the dogs or after ?
Lugia = before the girls dance or in front of him ?

i start hunting for shinies in my games and i'm on SS now and i really want a Lugia and a Suicune... Where do i have to save before SR'ing ?
Suicune = before waking the dogs or after ?
Lugia = before the girls dance or in front of him ?

I would just save in front of both of them to make things go faster when you soft reset (so you don't have to sit through a cut scene each time). So, for Lugia that would mean saving in front of it after the kimono girls dance. For Suicune, you'd save right before fighting it at Route 25 (Suicune's stats, etc. are not determined when waking the dogs in Ecruteak).

Need help breeding. I sucessfuly managed to breed a Marril that knows light screen, and another Marril that knows supersonic. Now how do I get both moves onto one male Marril so I can breed it with a female Dratini?

Need help breeding. I sucessfuly managed to breed a Marril that knows light screen, and another Marril that knows supersonic. Now how do I get both moves onto one male Marril so I can breed it with a female Dratini?

I don't think it's possible to get Light Screen + Supersonic on Marill or Dratini in Gen 4. Here and here list LightScreen/Supersonic as an illegal combination in Platinum. I then checked Serebii, Bulbapedia, and my HGSS Pokedex guide and couldn't find any possible chains for HGSS either, so I think you simply can't get that combination in this generation.

I don't think it's possible to get Light Screen + Supersonic on Marill or Dratini in Gen 4. Here and here list LightScreen/Supersonic as an illegal combination in Platinum. I then checked Serebii, Bulbapedia, and my HGSS Pokedex guide and couldn't find any possible chains for HGSS either, so I think you simply can't get that combination in this generation.

So then how do I get light scree and supersonic onto Dratini, then? They're both egg moves, accoring to Bulbapedia, so it, and Marril should be able to have them bred onto them

So then how do I get light scree and supersonic onto Dratini, then? They're both egg moves, accoring to Bulbapedia, so it, and Marril should be able to have them bred onto them

You can't. Light Screen and Supersonic may be egg moves for both Marill and Dratini, but there's no way to get both of those moves on them at the same time in Gen 4. To get both moves on one Marill/Dratini, you would need to breed with a compatible male Pokemon that knows both moves, but none of the compatible Pokemon that can learn Supersonic can also learn Light Screen.

Light Screen & Supersonic is simply an impossible combination to have on Marill/Dratini in Gen 4, even though both moves are egg moves for them, because no male Pokemon in their egg groups can legally learn both moves at once. So, you can breed a Marill/Dratini with Light Screen, or one with Supersonic, but not one with both.

You can't. Light Screen and Supersonic may be egg moves for both Marill and Dratini, but there's no way to get both of those moves on them at the same time in Gen 4. To get both moves on one Marill/Dratini, you would need to breed with a compatible male Pokemon that knows both moves, but none of the compatible Pokemon that can learn Supersonic can also learn Light Screen.

Light Screen & Supersonic is simply an impossible combination to have on Marill/Dratini in Gen 4, even though both moves are egg moves for them, because no male Pokemon in their egg groups can legally learn both moves at once. So, you can breed a Marill/Dratini with Light Screen, or one with Supersonic, but not one with both.

Siiiiigh
just great. Nice knowing hours of breeding were wasted
thanks for your help