About a year after I started climbing, I was told not to buy the (old) guide because the new one was "coming out soon". That was around 2004. Every year it's the same story. New guidenook THIS YEAR. Another year passes, and no new guide. I would not count on it coming out this year, or next year, or the year after that. I'd advise you to borrow a copy of the old guide, photocopy it, and put the whole thing in a three ring binder. That's what I did. Or you can pony up $100 to buy a beat up used copy of the old guide on eBay. The author is sick of people asking? Publish the new guide and his problem is solved.

"Will you guys give it a F'n rest. If I was the author I would tell you to shove it up your arse. Remember this is a voluntary effort. Nobody owes anybody a thing here. What do yo have to lose by trying a route at Rumney that is not in the current book, a biner? Get a life!"

Research? There's been a new route or two added at many of the crags. Some climbs have had bolts added or new anchors installed. Virtually all of this is well documented online already. We're talking about updates here. The old guide is about 95% accurate. This is a second edition, not a guide that's being put together for the first time. Sure, these things take time, but close to 6 years? I doubt that he will be doing the printing and binding himself....or maybe he has been, that's why it's taking so long......

Research? There's been a new route or two added at many of the crags. Some climbs have had bolts added or new anchors installed. Virtually all of this is well documented online already. We're talking about updates here. The old guide is about 95% accurate. This is a second edition, not a guide that's being put together for the first time. Sure, these things take time, but close to 6 years? I doubt that he will be doing the printing and binding himself....or maybe he has been, that's why it's taking so long......

wow.. the douchebag look suits you well. If it's all documented online then you should quit your fucking bitching and go climb on the info that you have.

Ward does have a real job you know.. it's not like he does this for a living. Look at your current book and go see how many fucking routes you climb that have his name attached. He's not going to do a half ass job.. he was held up by the Forest service, he was held up do to some advertising issues.

he's re-doing the guidebook.. he's not amending it. he's adding all new photos.. new lay out.. i'm sure new topo's. He didn't just go do the new routes.. he has updated old routes that have had grade changes and stuff also.

Maybe you should actually talk to the guy and realize how much fucking work he does.

Geez, I can't stop crying. What is "project barefoot?" The OP asks a legit question and people act like he kicked Jesus in the balls or something. Then he posts an apology? Yikes. Come on folks, lighten up. I can't wait to steal a copy of the new guide when it comes out.

Geez, I can't stop crying. What is "project barefoot?" The OP asks a legit question and people act like he kicked Jesus in the balls or something. Then he posts an apology? Yikes. Come on folks, lighten up. I can't wait to steal a copy of the new guide when it comes out.

There are like 25 threads about this subject. It's been answered a million times BY WARD over on NEclimbs. This is probably his last book he puts out for Rumney.. i'm sure he wants it to be good. and then never have to listen to you guys bitch again.

I was responding to YOU who seem to have no idea what is involved in making a guidebook. especially one for a very high profile and expanded area. you came off as a douchebag

The book will be out when it comes out. that's it.. no asking, crying, bitching, will make it come out any sooner.

The book will be out when it comes out. that's it.. no asking, crying, bitching, will make it come out any sooner.

Sure. But if you know it's not coming out for two years, you might be more willing to spend $50 or $100 on a used guide, whereas it wouldn't make sense if it's coming out next month.

where have you seen them listed? but according to him all the information Ward needs for his book is online so you should be able to get around without the book eh? Or borrow someones.. or ask someone at the crag. There was no timeline put on this book until this year

Everytime I've ever been to Rumney, there is a local, someone with a guidebook, or an internet capable phone to access Mountain Project. It's really not too hard...besides, is a guidebook really limiting your climbing to such an extent that you wouldn't go as a result. Climb more, read less.

Everytime I've ever been to Rumney, there is a local, someone with a guidebook, or an internet capable phone to access Mountain Project. It's really not too hard...besides, is a guidebook really limiting your climbing to such an extent that you wouldn't go as a result. Climb more, read less.

meh.. if he doesnt show up since he doesnt have a guidebook then there is one less noob getting in the way. I've been climbing there since 2002 so i know the area very well and help folks out all the time when they get confused. If i hear them bitching about ward not being fast enough though i will shut right up and they can be on their own.