slayer199:I can't really blame him. Why would you want to drag someone close to you into the crap he has to live with now?

If she went with him and he was caught....she'd be going down right with him (and not in the good way).

Something tells me - and I may be wrong - that an open, free-spirited, angsty pole dancer who calls stripping her "art" and blogs her heartbreak perhaps presents a higher risk for laxity in discipline and being caught during one's escape.

The dancer girlfriend of NSA leaker Edward Snowden was left on her own - without even any money to support herself - her father says.

Um... you're thinking of wife, not girlfriend you jackass. He's under no obligation whatsoever to his girlfriend in any way shape or form including but not limited to supporting her financially or even seeing her tomorrow. FFS

It does suck. The guy shouldn't have had to do that, flee the country abandoning his life in order to do the right thing exposing our government's injustice, but that's the world we've created... I hope someday we get a POTUS brave enough to issue Snowden a blanket pardon for the leaking. It's farking tragic that we find an ACTUAL patriot and he both needs to flee our country and have "conservative" waterheads all calling him a traitor.

thamike:miscreant: thamike: She's about as skilled at burlesque as he is at espionage.

Are you saying she's pretty skilled? Because Snowden managed to fark over the largest, most advanced, intelligence gathering agency in the world, and still remains outside their grasp.

I'm saying they're both terrible at their stated set of skills. You might think being inept is a skill set because of whatever political reasons or worldview you may have, but fact of the matter is that he's woefully unqualified to work for any intelligence agency, and she flops about like Borat in underpants.

Yes, duped the poor innocent NSA into hiring him. They had absolutely no way to verify his qualifications, the poor dears. Its important to always remember that the NSA is the real victim here.

Maybe it's the flu I've been fighting, but I couldn't read her quotes in the article without throwing up a little in my mouth.

'As I type this on my tear-streaked keyboard I'm reflecting on all the faces that have graced my path.'The ones I laughed with. The ones I've held. The one I've grown to love the most. And the ones I never got to bid adieu.

Yeah? Well as I type this on my vomit soaked keyboard I'm retching at all the ways in which this woman is going to continue to make herself a victim to get more attention. Daddy dearest should realize how bad his parenting skills look, biatching about his daughter being left to fend for herself after her BOYFRIEND leaves her.

drjekel_mrhyde:Well he did run to CHINA then RUSSIA. So he might not be all that bright in the first place.

He ran away from the most powerful nation on Earth, who has taken extreme measures to find him, including forcing planes with diplomats on them to ground, and yet he was granted asylum by Russia and is a (mostly) free man today.

That's not bad for a computer geek who doesn't have any formal training in espionage.

Looks like it's time to get a job and stop relying on a man to pay your way.

Remember, if a woman chooses on having a man pay her way it's empowering. If a man suggests paying for a woman it's misogynistic and a component of the patriarchy keeping a woman down.

I thought if a woman needs a man to pay her way she's a vapid whore and if a man wants to pay her way he's a goofy sucker with a small IQ and an even smaller weiner. Unless he's very rich, very smart and so lawyered up that he won't pass the salt without making her sign something.

In my day feminism was about women being strong and independent. Then it became about women being victims; now apparently feminists are strippers. Not that there's anything wrong with strippers, just that it's not particularly empowering for the stripper or the customers.

But then I want a smart woman to have an honest conversation with me, even if she must be fully dressed; something about expecting women to be people, with at least as much dignity as poodles. Clearly there's something very wrong with me.

she's not the one who went running to some shiat tabloid (although she does have a blog, which half the article quotes, although I've never read it). It's her patronizing father who seems to think his little girl can't support herself or something. "She was basically left to fend for herself" he's trying to make it sound like he left her surrounded by a pack of wolves or some shiat.Snowden did the best thing he could for her, left her completely out of it (so she and her father say)

I dunno, for a high school dropout, he was doing extremely well for himself. Living in Hawaii (most likely on the taxpayer's dime), making $120k a year and banging a pretty good looking girl. He must have talked a good game to get that gig with Booz Allen.

Scrotastic Method:DeathByGeekSquad: This situation set our foreign intelligence back years behind other nations, and we live in a world where backroom diplomacy and secrets are how the world moves forward.

Yes. By all means let's preserve the status quo of "backroom diplomacy and secrets."

Some back channel bullshiat is unavoidable, but what Snowden revealed was, by and large, not useful nor defensible.

We don't need to spy on farking Norway. The Viking hordes are not going to turn on us or bring about our demise.

I'll bet Snowden thought by this time he'd be up to his neck in chicks, being an international man of mystery and what not. Probably the only women he gets to see these days are a series of Russian cleaning ladies and his penis is shaped like a bicycle handlebar grip.

Maybe he should post some half naked videos assuaging his despair at separation from dear, dear Lindsay.

He is a traitor. I don't care if he decides to let people know that we're doing some bad stuff, but he shouldn't have given the stuff to China and Russia and the press. He's a traitor and deserves a firing squad. I have a feeling he'll get it some day too.

The Larch:thamike: miscreant: thamike: She's about as skilled at burlesque as he is at espionage.

Are you saying she's pretty skilled? Because Snowden managed to fark over the largest, most advanced, intelligence gathering agency in the world, and still remains outside their grasp.

I'm saying they're both terrible at their stated set of skills. You might think being inept is a skill set because of whatever political reasons or worldview you may have, but fact of the matter is that he's woefully unqualified to work for any intelligence agency, and she flops about like Borat in underpants.

Yes, duped the poor innocent NSA into hiring him. They had absolutely no way to verify his qualifications, the poor dears. Its important to always remember that the NSA is the real victim here.

I know this is the internet and I'm supposed to pretend that I lack the mental capacity to hold two or more thoughts about a topic, or the emotional maturity not to be breathlessly antagonistic about it--but I gotta say interpreting my criticisms of Snowden and his stripper's professional prowess as a tacit defense of the NSA's woeful ineptitude is a pretty big stretch of the imagination.

The only thing that I'm not outraged about is that a big spy agency is spying on everybody. What's outrageous is how cartoonishly bad they are at it.

Benevolent Misanthrope:slayer199: I can't really blame him. Why would you want to drag someone close to you into the crap he has to live with now?

If she went with him and he was caught....she'd be going down right with him (and not in the good way).

Something tells me - and I may be wrong - that an open, free-spirited, angsty pole dancer who calls stripping her "art" and blogs her heartbreak perhaps presents a higher risk for laxity in discipline and being caught during one's escape.

Scrotastic Method:Doktor_Zhivago: Ok she's like 111/10 hot. How did that creepy looking dweeb manage to get with that?

I grew up near Ft. Meade, where there's a disproportionate amount of creepy looking dweebs doing all the computer work for the agencies, often right out of high school (back in the '90s at least, you didn't need a degree of any type, so long as you have MS/Cisco certs and could get a clearance). And the creepy looking dweebs were all making a lot more money than the rest of the new graduates -- college kids, rookie electricians, drywall hangers, stuff like that. So it was pretty common that some bad-decisions hot chick, bored with the "cool" guys that just drove around in trucks smoking shiatty weed, would glom onto a nerd for a little while to at least be with someone who could spend money on them and didn't always smell like work. None of these relationships ever lasted more than a few weeks, but the girl pushed reset on her shiatty life and the nerd got to throw thousands at a hot chick for a little while.

Sounds like a perfect opportunity for Anna Chapman-caliber KGB stooges to leverage.

trotsky:DeathByGeekSquad: mongbiohazard: Stripper lost her meal ticket, nerd lost his hot stripper girlfriend.

It does suck. The guy shouldn't have had to do that, flee the country abandoning his life in order to do the right thing exposing our government's injustice, but that's the world we've created... I hope someday we get a POTUS brave enough to issue Snowden a blanket pardon for the leaking. It's farking tragic that we find an ACTUAL patriot and he both needs to flee our country and have "conservative" waterheads all calling him a traitor.

There are established ways, and he went the non-established Assange way, before Assange's contacts started distancing themselves from the situation. There shouldn't be any doubt that Snowden was groomed by Assange, who made promises that he ultimately didn't keep, leaving Snowden in that 'where is safe' mess that went on for a bit.

This situation set our foreign intelligence back years behind other nations, and we live in a world where backroom diplomacy and secrets are how the world moves forward. For all of the perceived 'good', it came at an incredible cost to existing capabilities.

Thank goodness somebody else is thinking like this. Snowden is a traitor. He's a modern day Rick Ames. He's did some serious damage to US Intelligence and quite possibly compromised the live of people working for American Intelligence world-wide. He's a creepy little Libertarian who never had an issue with the NSA stuff until Obama was in office.

He's not a hero. He's not a patriot. He's a traitor who is easily on the list with other American spies during the Cold War. He fled to a man who is working against the US at every angle and was probably happy to have such a traitor under his protection. In fact, Snowden could live with the one or two outstanding Americans still in Moscow under the care of the FSA. Yes, there are at least two, so Snowden could room with them and they could drink vodka and discuss how hard they farked the country of the ...

You're a goddamn moron, I was heavily involved in shiat I can't talk about ever too, I'll make up a cartoon card for my wallet if you need credentials. ES brought it to the PUBLIC, he will be remembered forever for this. I can't predict how this will go down but I'll side on a pretty big blow for fu big brother.

Prey4reign:I'll bet Snowden thought by this time he'd be up to his neck in chicks, being an international man of mystery and what not. Probably the only women he gets to see these days are a series of Russian cleaning ladies and his penis is shaped like a bicycle handlebar grip.

Maybe he should post some half naked videos assuaging his despair at separation from dear, dear Lindsay.

I suspect Ed is getting laid good and often. As for the heartbroken chick, she gives me a really gratingly annoying needy I'm so special vibe. Fab bod tho.

Doktor_Zhivago:Ok she's like 111/10 hot. How did that creepy looking dweeb manage to get with that?

You mean aside from that fact he had a good job, a bunch of money, and whisked her away on vacation to exotic foreign places? Add to that the fact he probably couldn't talk a lot about what he did at work. Very mysterious and romantic and blah blah blah. Bonus: he was thin with good personal hygiene.

Yeah, I can't see why a no talent stripper(sorry....artiste) who's reaching the end of her shelf life would be interested in that at all.

There is an old adage, "no matter how hot she looks, there is another man in this world who got sick of dealing with her shiat"

Circus wannabe art stripper? really? probably also thinks "mean people suck" and that when you die your sould turns into a butterfly or some nonsense. I'd last 6 months tops even if she brought home all her stripper freinds to blow me every night.

/Hell I'd sell the secrets of the Ribwich to the North Koreans to get an exit strategy out of that.

Scrotastic Method:DeathByGeekSquad: This situation set our foreign intelligence back years behind other nations, and we live in a world where backroom diplomacy and secrets are how the world moves forward.

Yes. By all means let's preserve the status quo of "backroom diplomacy and secrets."

Yes, by all means, let's play poker without seeing anyone else at the table, or their actions. Just like college freshman discover, the world does not conform to the desires of one, but to the whims of the many. If you're surrounded by nations who arm themselves with the latest information possible, and have access to your 'classified' or 'confidential' information, whilst you have next to nothing because you believe in transparency - you will be taken advantage of, and you will be blind sided. You become the weakest link in any negotiation.

I would highly suggest that you read up on exactly the role the NSA has played throughout its history. I would suggest with the non-biased (hits both success and failures quite evenly), The Secret Sentry.

mongbiohazard:Stripper lost her meal ticket, nerd lost his hot stripper girlfriend.

It does suck. The guy shouldn't have had to do that, flee the country abandoning his life in order to do the right thing exposing our government's injustice, but that's the world we've created... I hope someday we get a POTUS brave enough to issue Snowden a blanket pardon for the leaking. It's farking tragic that we find an ACTUAL patriot and he both needs to flee our country and have "conservative" waterheads all calling him a traitor.

There are established ways, and he went the non-established Assange way, before Assange's contacts started distancing themselves from the situation. There shouldn't be any doubt that Snowden was groomed by Assange, who made promises that he ultimately didn't keep, leaving Snowden in that 'where is safe' mess that went on for a bit.

This situation set our foreign intelligence back years behind other nations, and we live in a world where backroom diplomacy and secrets are how the world moves forward. For all of the perceived 'good', it came at an incredible cost to existing capabilities.

Doktor_Zhivago:Ok she's like 111/10 hot. How did that creepy looking dweeb manage to get with that?

I grew up near Ft. Meade, where there's a disproportionate amount of creepy looking dweebs doing all the computer work for the agencies, often right out of high school (back in the '90s at least, you didn't need a degree of any type, so long as you have MS/Cisco certs and could get a clearance). And the creepy looking dweebs were all making a lot more money than the rest of the new graduates -- college kids, rookie electricians, drywall hangers, stuff like that. So it was pretty common that some bad-decisions hot chick, bored with the "cool" guys that just drove around in trucks smoking shiatty weed, would glom onto a nerd for a little while to at least be with someone who could spend money on them and didn't always smell like work. None of these relationships ever lasted more than a few weeks, but the girl pushed reset on her shiatty life and the nerd got to throw thousands at a hot chick for a little while.

Prophet of Loss:Prey4reign: I'll bet Snowden thought by this time he'd be up to his neck in chicks, being an international man of mystery and what not. Probably the only women he gets to see these days are a series of Russian cleaning ladies and his penis is shaped like a bicycle handlebar grip.

Maybe he should post some half naked videos assuaging his despair at separation from dear, dear Lindsay.

You've never been to Russia have you?

I am guessing he isn't particularly free to travel quite yet. Or were you just talking about whores?

Prey4reign:I'll bet Snowden thought by this time he'd be up to his neck in chicks, being an international man of mystery and what not. Probably the only women he gets to see these days are a series of Russian cleaning ladies and his penis is shaped like a bicycle handlebar grip.

Maybe he should post some half naked videos assuaging his despair at separation from dear, dear Lindsay.

Benevolent Misanthrope:Something tells me - and I may be wrong - that an open, free-spirited, angsty pole dancer who calls stripping her "art" and blogs her heartbreak perhaps presents a higher risk for laxity in discipline and being caught during one's escape.

Just a thought.

Probably right. She probably would have called everyone to tell them she was leaving the country and where she was going.