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heh, about a week or two ago, i found a great clip on youtube from arsenio live show and thought about the same thing

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Far far away from the orgy that consist of clyde, 8's, rady, smokes and rono

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Fat Joe is talented, no question. He has too many haters in my opinion.

[Fat Joe]Yeah
This is goin out..
to all the live mother****ers, knowhatI'msayin?
All the real *****z
Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Queens
California
LaBella Puerto Rico, wherever the **** you from
KnowhatI'msayin? Yeah

This story takes place, back in the South Bronx
where at the age of 14 I was already knockin off punks (yeah!)
And suckers were scared to death -- every time I walked by
I hear them *****z take their last breath (ahhh..)
See I just didn't give a **** - and if you had a C-skin
a leather bomber, you was gettin stuck (word!)
That was the way it was
One day I went to visit my aunt, and stuck up my cuz
See **** was ****ed up back then
No matter what the **** I did I never had no ends
And my moms was on walfare
Aiyyo I knew I had a father, but the ***** was never there
So what the **** was I to do
I'm sick and tired of bein the bummiest ***** out the crew
I gotta get mine, I gotta get cash
I see an old man, I'm gonna rob him with the quick-fast
Give me your mother****in loot, papi
I'm gonna get paid, and can't a damn thing stop me
See, I'm tired of this poor ****
And who the cops? Well they can suck my mother****in dick
Cause all them *****z ever do is harass
That's why I get glad when I hear somebody smoked that ass (*gunshot*)
Just to let ya know how I feel
Word em up, the ****in **** is real
Hey yo, it's real

Chorus: (*cuts "Down on the reel to reel"*)

Aiyyo the **** is real
Aiyyo it's real
Word up, the **** is real

[Fat Joe]
Now I'm sixteen and there's a brand new scene
I'm makin mad loot, gettin paid off the dope fiends (word)
Keep the **** in check, in order
and my main man Tone was ****in everybody else's daughter
See everybody knew in town
that Joe and Tone had **** locked down
And a ***** wouldn't test me
It seems like every other day the ****in cops arrest me (yea!)
But the **** will never stick
I make one phone call and be out like quick
Cause Uncle Dan had my back
And now *****z gettin jealous cause they know I'm livin fat
Talkin **** around the way and on the block
But never in my face, cause they knew I packed a glock
And my crew is mad deep
A bunch of crazy Puerto Ricans, so aiyyo don't sleep (word!)
And all you bitch ass *****z know the deal
Check it out, the ****in **** is real
Hey yo, it's real

Chorus: (*cuts "Down on the reel to reel"*)

Aiyyo it's real
The ****in **** is real
Yeah.. aiyyo it's real

[Fat Joe]
Check it out
Let me let ya know why I made this song (why?)
Brothers can't deal with the real, word is bond
I'm sick and tired of these fake ass *****z
sayin that they catchin bodies when they never pulled a trigga
I know your style, I've seen it before
You wear an army suit, now you think you're hardcore
Drinkin on your 40's, smokin on your blunts
Can't afford a chain so you wear gold fronts, yeah
You're fakin the funk, kid
And you'll be gettin it up the ass if you ever did a ****in bid
It's time to separate the real from the phony
The name is Fat Joe, punk, act like you know me
I come equipped with the ruff ****
Nowadays I can't believe the bull rappers come up with
And all ya bitch-ass *****z know the deal
Check it out, the ****in **** is real
Hey yo, it's real

I'm not a huge fan of Fat Joe but this song is really good. Reminds me of one of my all time favorites - Wu Tang Clan's C.R.E.A.M.

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Good BEFORE

Originally Posted by metrocard

Fat Joe is talented, no question. He has too many haters in my opinion.

[Fat Joe]Yeah
This is goin out..
to all the live mother****ers, knowhatI'msayin?
All the real *****z
Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Queens
California
LaBella Puerto Rico, wherever the **** you from
KnowhatI'msayin? Yeah

This story takes place, back in the South Bronx
where at the age of 14 I was already knockin off punks (yeah!)
And suckers were scared to death -- every time I walked by
I hear them *****z take their last breath (ahhh..)
See I just didn't give a **** - and if you had a C-skin
a leather bomber, you was gettin stuck (word!)
That was the way it was
One day I went to visit my aunt, and stuck up my cuz
See **** was ****ed up back then
No matter what the **** I did I never had no ends
And my moms was on walfare
Aiyyo I knew I had a father, but the ***** was never there
So what the **** was I to do
I'm sick and tired of bein the bummiest ***** out the crew
I gotta get mine, I gotta get cash
I see an old man, I'm gonna rob him with the quick-fast
Give me your mother****in loot, papi
I'm gonna get paid, and can't a damn thing stop me
See, I'm tired of this poor ****
And who the cops? Well they can suck my mother****in dick
Cause all them *****z ever do is harass
That's why I get glad when I hear somebody smoked that ass (*gunshot*)
Just to let ya know how I feel
Word em up, the ****in **** is real
Hey yo, it's real

Chorus: (*cuts "Down on the reel to reel"*)

Aiyyo the **** is real
Aiyyo it's real
Word up, the **** is real

[Fat Joe]
Now I'm sixteen and there's a brand new scene
I'm makin mad loot, gettin paid off the dope fiends (word)
Keep the **** in check, in order
and my main man Tone was ****in everybody else's daughter
See everybody knew in town
that Joe and Tone had **** locked down
And a ***** wouldn't test me
It seems like every other day the ****in cops arrest me (yea!)
But the **** will never stick
I make one phone call and be out like quick
Cause Uncle Dan had my back
And now *****z gettin jealous cause they know I'm livin fat
Talkin **** around the way and on the block
But never in my face, cause they knew I packed a glock
And my crew is mad deep
A bunch of crazy Puerto Ricans, so aiyyo don't sleep (word!)
And all you bitch ass *****z know the deal
Check it out, the ****in **** is real
Hey yo, it's real

Chorus: (*cuts "Down on the reel to reel"*)

Aiyyo it's real
The ****in **** is real
Yeah.. aiyyo it's real

[Fat Joe]
Check it out
Let me let ya know why I made this song (why?)
Brothers can't deal with the real, word is bond
I'm sick and tired of these fake ass *****z
sayin that they catchin bodies when they never pulled a trigga
I know your style, I've seen it before
You wear an army suit, now you think you're hardcore
Drinkin on your 40's, smokin on your blunts
Can't afford a chain so you wear gold fronts, yeah
You're fakin the funk, kid
And you'll be gettin it up the ass if you ever did a ****in bid
It's time to separate the real from the phony
The name is Fat Joe, punk, act like you know me
I come equipped with the ruff ****
Nowadays I can't believe the bull rappers come up with
And all ya bitch-ass *****z know the deal
Check it out, the ****in **** is real
Hey yo, it's real

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No one mentioned J. Dilla and his classic shining? Common's MC square? Aw man ya'll missing some major hip hop. If ya'll think Fat Joe was sick...J Dilla on a whole nother level with it. His stuff can't be reproduced. This guy was a beat genius. The early timbaland albums like "up jumps the boogie".

Up Jumps The Boogie (Timbaland, Magoo, Aaliyah, and Missy...a classic!!)

That is all I listen to...Hip Hop from the 90s and my slow jams. That's all I rock to. It's good to see everyone is on the same page with the state of hip hop. Back in the day I could just turn on the radio and hear my jams...now I have to roll with my mp3 player everywhere I go cuz the game is garbage. Gotta stick with my intellectuals...Nas, Talib, Mos Def, J. Dilla, The Roots, and Common. All of their lyrics are on point. Much love to Alicia Keys too. That's my favorite R&B chick. She looks good, is intellectual and has class but at the same time she gives you all of what she has...gotta love that. Dag I can speak on this for days...

dam guys...well yea NAS illmatic was his best cd...and im into 90s rap...but like more like BIG L, MASTA ACE, A Tribe Called Quest, Naughty By Nature, Notorious B.I.G, Wu Tang! and other stuff 2 much 2 mention

Big L might have been the most skilled ever, it was between him and Big Pun. Lyrically, those 2 rappers were crazy, no one now could touch them. Common, Talib, and Mos def are all nice. Krs1, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap, Masta Ace, these guys were all sick. Who the **** is Soulja boy, MiMs, and these other garbage rappers who i dont even consider rappers. I cant name one song by either of them, even Jay-Z dissed MIMs. Mobb Deep was one of the best groups of the 90's, Prodigy is one of the best ever. Cant forget about gangstarr.

WOW!!! u know hip hop man! hip hop is dead man...i mean wow superman that hoe? wtf ok i get where he going with that but he can say something else other than that...and yea man BIG L! haha thats my nigg man...he had lyrical talent...here some of his punchlines man

Facts on tracks I recite well
Everybody be like mike but mike wanna be like L

Im undefeated thats the stone truth
Cause battlin me is like fightin a gorilla in a phone booth

A lot of rappers talk that murder **** and couldnt kill time

Ask beavis i get nothing BUThead

And if a bitch dont like me she must like women

Emcees I squash and disgrace, its all about the benjis
So why your bills got washingtons face?

What's this mother****in rap game without L?
Yo, that's like jewels without ice
That's like china without rice
or the Holy Bible without Christ
or the Bulls without Mike
or crackheads without pipes
The Village without dykes
or hockey games without fights

All the guys you have mentioned are sick. I also want to pay my respects to Jada Kiss, DMX, Leaders of the New School, and Busta.

There are some terrible rappers. A lot of one hit wonders out there. Personally there's too much commercial sh@t out there. Everyone wants to make people dance!! Nah man I want to hear some stories about the streets, I wanna get pumped when I listen to rap. I luv that war music from WuTang and Mobb Deep. I don't know if any of you heard from this group called 41st side. These were some thugged out cats from QueensBridge. I know there are some Mobb Deep fans here, so if you haven't heard from 41st side, look for them. They took out an album around 7 years ago. Straight street.