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I have had this problem in the past, and thought it was resolved, but it is recurring. I get the same BSOD issue, which is always showing up as Page Fault in Non-Paged Area, win32kfull.sys, and I've tried installing/uninstalling (with full system restart in between each) versions 5.9, 6.1, and 6.3 (the latest) and it's consistent.

At first this seemed to be triggered only when I hooked up a camera or smartphone to download photos, but I have since discovered this is not required. I can be doing random things in the program when, *wham*, BSOD.

The system is at "peak heat" right now because I've just come back up from a BSOD (so certain system processes are whizzing along), was running Speccy, and am currently running the SysnativeBSODCollection utility. There's a lot of processing competition going on right now. I have never had a BSOD from overheating.

This machine started out life running Windows 8.1 and was upgraded to Windows 10. It's an HP 15-g035wm laptop and, if I'm recalling correctly, its "born on" date is sometime in 2014.

The driver dates back from 2014, so it's likely not compatible with your build of Windows 10. Please update or uninstall any software related to it.

If issues persist after doing the above, please ensure that your BIOS and Windows are fully up-to-date (VERY IMPORTANT!), and then run Driver Verifier according to these instructions: carrona.org/verifier.html ,sending us the dumps as instructed.

Thanks much. I should have suspected it might be something like this. I haven't had problems with the drivers related to theJAWS screen reader in some time. I know that I have the latest ones that Freedom Scientific ships. Since I don't use JAWS on any regular basis I'll just uninstall.

Actually it isn't that surprising. A JAWS process (c:\program files\freedom scientific\jaws\18.0\fsatproxy.exe) was running when you ran the Sysnative File Collection App, so it must have been running during the BSODs. Plus a JAWS driver (c:\windows\system32\drivers\fsvidacc.sys) starts at boot by default and is always present.

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- John (my website: http://www.carrona.org/ )**If you need a more detailed explanation, please ask for it. I have the Knack. ** If I haven't replied in 48 hours, please send me a message. My eye problems have recently increased and I'm having difficult reading posts. (23 Nov 2017)FYI - I am completely blind in the right eye and ~30% blind in the left eye.<p>If the eye problems get worse suddenly, I may not be able to respond.If that's the case and help is needed, please PM a staff member for assistance.

Since the A8-6410 maximum operating temperature (not critical temp) is 90° C (see here) I have never been concerned that my "at complete rest" temperatures are in the 50s at lowest and the "heavy load" temps max out around 70° C or so.

I try to encourage everyone who is getting their panties in a knot about processor temperatures to go to their processor manufacturer's website, or cpu-world.com, and look up the specs for their CPU/APU.

Processors these days routinely run warmer (I refuse to use "hotter" as that implies a problem) than they once did as more and more gets packed into less and less space and are designed to handle it. A lot of the temperature sensing programs such as Speccy do not maintain their databases very well and are giving spurious caution or "you're burning up" warnings when that's entirely untrue for a specific processor.

There would be so much less stress about operating temperatures if people would just check out what the maximum operating temperature for their processor actually is. With a under stress peak temperature a full 20° C below normal max, and you know that Tcritical is well above the max normal of 90° C, I've got nothing to worry about.

My observation of your system was a single set of temps in the Speccy report - not a detailed analysis.

And, I only cautioned about the temp, and made no assumptions about other temps (under load or not).

I am familiar with the higher heat tolerance of today's processors, yet I will continue to caution about temps because it's about more than just the heat of one individual part.

In general, the heat generated by a part (such as the CPU) is not confined just to that part. Rather, the heat will spread to other components in varying degrees based on the cooling system, the materials of the parts, and the airflow. Many years ago I demonstrated that air cooling the back of a motherboard can reduce the system temp by 3 - 5ºC (AMD Thunderbird with the pencil overclock). And, in addition to that, it's generally accepted that warmer temps lead to lesser hardware life expectancy.

And, quite frankly, I rarely worry about the actual temps on CPU's - as most will auto-shutdown well before they become damaged.

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- John (my website: http://www.carrona.org/ )**If you need a more detailed explanation, please ask for it. I have the Knack. ** If I haven't replied in 48 hours, please send me a message. My eye problems have recently increased and I'm having difficult reading posts. (23 Nov 2017)FYI - I am completely blind in the right eye and ~30% blind in the left eye.<p>If the eye problems get worse suddenly, I may not be able to respond.If that's the case and help is needed, please PM a staff member for assistance.

Let me make clear that my response was not intended for you, but for the wider reading audience.

I have seen an untold amount of panic on BC with regard to "running hot" and in well over 90% of the cases the machines were doing anything but.

I simply want people to know that they should never presume that someone else telling them they're running hot, or even any number of pieces of software telling them they're running hot, substitutes for checking the manufacturer specs. People just don't do this, and I've seen near nervous breakdowns in a number of threads here because people are reinforcing a mistaken impression that someone is "running hot" when they're absolutely not.

I apologize if my prior response came across as lecturing you, as I know that you know this sort of stuff. That was truly not my intention.

Not a problem, I was just explaining my thoughts behind temperature control.
No offense taken, and I hope that there was none given!

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- John (my website: http://www.carrona.org/ )**If you need a more detailed explanation, please ask for it. I have the Knack. ** If I haven't replied in 48 hours, please send me a message. My eye problems have recently increased and I'm having difficult reading posts. (23 Nov 2017)FYI - I am completely blind in the right eye and ~30% blind in the left eye.<p>If the eye problems get worse suddenly, I may not be able to respond.If that's the case and help is needed, please PM a staff member for assistance.

Perhaps a tiny bit was given, but I re-read my own offering and thought perhaps a bit was given from myself, too.

Part of my approach to temperatures is also directly related to whether we're talking about a desktop versus a laptop. Doing the occasional cleaning of a desktop machine is generally a very simple proposition: pop off the case, vacuum (using the appropriate attachment at the appropriate distance) and/or canned air blast off the dust bunnies, put the case back on.

Laptops are an entirely different proposition. They run warmer to begin with just due to how closely packed everything is and most now have fan and heat-sink assemblies that are, shall we say, less than simple to access in the first place and way less than simple to remove. My own laptop is sheer hell to get to both the memory and cooling components, requiring an almost complete teardown. Until or unless I see temperatures in a laptop that constantly hover toward "maximum normal" at rest I will not even think of doing anything other than vacuuming the air intake and exhaust areas when the computer is turned off. The potential for damaging something else during a teardown is simply too great unless a laptop is shutting itself down secondary to temperature issues. If someone is really uncomfortable with a really warm running laptop then I'd suggest an external cooling pad before I'd tear the thing down.

Others, of course, will distinctly differ when it comes to my differing approaches to desktop versus laptop units. To each his or her own.

You've treated me well over the years and regret that my crankiness may have caused problems between us. I am deeply sorry and I apologize for any offense that I may have caused.

I'm comfortable with taking laptops apart now, but recall the first few times that I did it - it was nerve wracking!
And I agree, that there's no need to take one apart simply because the system may be on the warm side.
A long time ago the conventional thought was that laptops ran about 10º C warmer than desktops.

My browser caused a flood of traffic, sio my IP address was banned. Hope to fix it soon. Will get back to posting as soon as Im able.

- John (my website: http://www.carrona.org/ )**If you need a more detailed explanation, please ask for it. I have the Knack. ** If I haven't replied in 48 hours, please send me a message. My eye problems have recently increased and I'm having difficult reading posts. (23 Nov 2017)FYI - I am completely blind in the right eye and ~30% blind in the left eye.<p>If the eye problems get worse suddenly, I may not be able to respond.If that's the case and help is needed, please PM a staff member for assistance.