I was running a poll where I ask blog visitors “Why are you buying New gTLD domains?”. The poll has been running for a few weeks now and about 40% of the voters state that they don’t buy New gTLD domain names. I guess this post only applies to the other 60% that does register these domains.

I only ask you that you post just 1 New gTLD domain name. What you think that is your best one. If you can please post if the domain name has a premium renewal or not and why you think the domain name is good.

My submission is a .domains New gTLD because I am an end user when it comes to the .domains New gTLD:
generic.domains (not premium)

About Konstantinos Zournas

Konstantinos studied Computer Engineering and Computer Science in London and lives in Athens, Greece. He works on domain names, websites and software development. Has been online since 1995 & domaining since 2002.

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Trade.domains It´s a PREMIUM domain name registered in EAP (renewal about $250 USD)
I thing that it´s one of the best domain names for the domain industry. Perfect to launch a trading platform for domain names. I just received 2 bid´s at SEDO.com from somebody from INDIA (first bid $25,000 & second bid $80,000) but I declined both becuse I thing the domain has huge potential so I expect higher offers. Thanks Konstantinos.

You have no idea what you are talking about.
Trade.domains is maybe the best domain name in the .DOMAINS extension and did you ever heard that:
“Internet is about to change FOREVER” ???
The new extensions are already here and in few years the .COMs will be almost death. In the new internet ERA the best domain names will be: “SHORT & BRANDABLE”,
so Vacation.rentals will be much better tan VacationRentals.com sold for $36,000,000 USD !!!
So just forget about the .COM; this is your grandfather extension. Why many big companies start using domain hack ??? To short their URL and to make it more memorable and brandable. Examples:
DELICIO.US sold to Yahoo for undisclosed 8 figures
LOCAL.LY sold to Infor for $100,000
E.CO sold to Domain Capital for $81,000
T.AG sold to Kinetic for $60,000
SOCI.AL sold for $50,000
Google use also GOO.GL & Instagram use INSTAGR.AM
Rick Schwartz sold Candy.com for $3,000,000 because he sad NO to $2 million & $2,5 million offers. ?!?!?!
So just take your time and think about this. In a few years .COM will decrease their value; overall the two words domains because:

Sex.cam is better than SexCam.com
Car.loan is better than CarLoan.com
Night.club is better tan NightClub.com
Network.services is better than NetworkServices.com
Social.media is better than SocialMedia.com

D´ont forget that Internet is changing about FOREVER and now is the moment to grab the best domain sales for the next years !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dont need fucking $80,000 because I sell 50-60 domain names per year, some of them in 5 figures so I just need to jump to 6 & 7 figures OK ???

Do not compare sex.cam to sexcam.com, compare it to sex.com. Same for the other ones, compare to car.com, network.com, social.com. I may agree your comparison may be leaned towards the gtld version for specific niche; but for the generic word, I would like to see in the long run which one is more valuable.

Alex, I disagree with you on how to compare the new gTLDS. Google has said that a well-done, authoritative website under one of the new gTLDs will be considered the same as a .com address in searches. I interpret that as meaning that for a search for Alaska hotels, alaska.hotels will be considered in the searches for Alaska hotels, but not be given a preference over a site such as alaskahotels.com. Otherwise, there is no point to registering any of these names at all. Instead of round.diamonds, one should have registered rounddiamonds.diamonds or rounddiamonds.shoes if one is selling round diamonds? That would make no sense. And Google bought too many of these new gTLDs for themselves for the TLD then to have no effect in searches that contain either the TLD or a word similar to it.

You have brought a very valid point, but think about it, if you are comparing alaska.hotels to alaskahotels.com, and rond.diamonds to rounddiamonds.com, then:
#1.- The center of the universe is .com
#2.- I agree that alaska.hotels might be more expensive than alaskahotels.com, but no way more expensive than alaska.com, remember that .hotels is visited only by people looking for hotels, but .com is visited by people looking for anything related to Alaska, including and not limited to life-style, homing, entertaining, hunting, traveling (hotels as a sub-set of this category), etc.
#3.- While alaskahotels.hotels doesn’t make sense, alaskahotels.com makes much sense. Bring it down to round.hotels vs roundhotels.com, neither of these makes sense, but round.com still makes sense and would sell for in the 5-6 figures today.
#4 Per number 3, there are millions of domains .com that will sell for 5, 6 and 7 figures, but I don’t think it will be the same quantity for any gtld (not even all gtlds combined).
#6 I will give you this last one, Social.media, night.club and car.loans ‘might’ be better than socialmedia.com, nightclub.com and carloans.com, but hurry up to buy them, after those, everything else is garbage.

Your statements simply show how much of an amateur you are when it comes to domain investing. 2/3L .com’s are strong than ever. Any N .com is thru the roof.

Dictionary word, and single word .com’s are in extreme demand. As well there are many solid terms where there is now gtld to complete the ending. So what happens to these terms, do they go away, because some gtld’s are here.

I saw your sedo list of names, and they are sub average, compared to most solid portfolios. I do not believe you had a solid $80K offer for trade.domains. Trading domains is something domainers might do, but not real end users, nobody has time for that. Your domain will be parked at sedo making 49 cents a year in parking 5 years from now.

I am not against GTLD’s but I do not believe trade.domains would have been the highest gtld sale to date if it had closed, which it didn’t. Nobody in their right mind would pay you 7 figures, because they can get their own extension for $185K!

You are talking about today, right?
But the things are going to change over the next years OK!
Trade.domains it´s short & BRANDABLE Got it ???
The best name to launch a trading platform !
This is a name for big companies not for everybody!
for $185K you can get your own extension but NOT “Trade.domains”
You have no idea what you are talking about men!

1500 ngtlds will start .. and yes of course, the internet traffic will grow as well, but for sure not in the same rate

.com was like people in a supermarket 1 day before of catastrophe. but now, we have a lot of food for all.

of course, good names like trade.domains are rare and expensive. we don’t need a dot com, we don’t need a history and we don’t need a future to understand that trade.domains is matching perfectly like a diamond in the sunlight.

lol… seriously? Comparing Trade.domains to Trade.com? Trading is HUGE. “Trading domains” on the other hand is a small niche. And the only potential buyers for Trade.domains would be domainers and I highly doubt any domainer would pay $80K for Trade.domains. Heck I highly doubt any domainer would pay $80K for TradeDomains.com and that would be the better choice.

Trade.domains a small niche???? Ha, ha, ha you have no idea what you are talking about. The billionaire industry of domaining a small niche???
Ha, ha, ha your head sure its small !!! Trade.domains is not for domainers. Is for an end user and worth as low $1,000,000 Small niche: ha, ha, ha

Trade means exchange, buy, sell and everything related to transfer the ownership of goods from one person or entity to another by getting a product, service or money in exchange. Trade is sometimes loosely called commerce or financial transaction or barter. A network that allows trade is called a market. So when you buy or sell domains is also a trade because you exchange a good for money.
To understand better just read the WIKIPEDIA about TRADE.
Finally “Trade.domains” is a perfect (maybe the best & more natural) domain name for a domain aftermarket platform. It’s true that is related to a niche but is one of the most bigest niches in internet and the base of it.
Whithout domains are no websites and no internet out there.

Well domainers can start using it, because it is correct & natural. The point is that “Trade.domains” is highly brandable. Its easier to remember “Trade.domains” a buy&sell domains website instead of SEDO, BIDO AFTERNIC, GODADDY …names that have nothing related to the domain industry.

Spoken like someone who wishes they had been paying attention “a month or so back”.

Elapsed time since purchase doesn’t negate the fact that “Poker” is one of the most popular single word searches on the internet, and “.GURU” is a perfect fit for that word, as is “.TIPS”, “.EXPERT”, “.NINJA”, etc.

– 3 offers on Sedo.com in the past 30 days.
– great traffic worldwide.
– New York is known as 1 of the 4 big fashion capitals in the world and this is the only english speaking capital.
– I love New York T-Shirts etc.
– The world does not refer to New York as NYC, only Americans do that. Hence the name “New York Fashion Week:

It was on a SEDO report, roughly a week or two ago. The best I can say is it was one of the end letters of the alphabet. I just remember thinking someone was testing the waters. All of mine appraised at less than that. Sorry I can’t be more precise.

My first time buying. I referred to all reported data and used my google translator while learning mandarin numerology to buy several of the biggest industries in the world in 13 languages. I hope something happens. I have several diamond(s), Game(s), house(s), casino(s), cars, etc. sites. Only a bout $6k deep after I reallocated my savings.. I think that’s ok for a rookie? My personal favorite though is that I own 20% of the single letter directories 🙂 It’s like buying comics!

I’m picking up the scraps when General Availability comes around and some of my crumbs so far

tractor.cab … I do like this one, nice niche market but I’ve realized there are few opportunities for agricultural names from 617 gTLDs … amazing … and this domain could cover a multitude of farming activities … anything from tractor cabs to farming insurance? Who knows …

Can’t understand why I paid 40 dlrs for flawed.diamonds one week, then 145 dlrs for aphrodisiac.recipes the next week … the diamond market is very dollar rich! They have a strange pricing structure for sure.

I’m enjoying the challenge of finding decent named domains and looking at my list, drop.menu and hgv.cab are among some of my other favorites.

Obesity.TIPS ( More and more of the population is on the obesity increase.
Pregnant.TIPS ( First time mothers will flock to this site if it was built out correctly.
Cruise.TRAINING ( A large corporate cruise line organization would pay good money for a great site on cruise training)

I may say either or is ok, just make sure to spend a good amount of time updating it everyday to start increasing traffic. I still haven’t find a premium word that goes fine with .guru, If I ask Mike Myers, he would respond thelove.guru

reallys? I don’t want to be bearer of bad news, but I googled “reals estate” and I found only 40 thousand misspells. But I removed the ‘s’ and I found 389 million. Maybe those 40 thousand people were meant to visit your site in future. Good luck

rig.mobi, originally I though it was a good investment, but ultimately was a waste of money and time. No annual premium, but needed to write a business case to mtld for them to allow me to register this domain. No more gtlds for me, back to .com

Mr. Konstantinos Zournas never every blame anyone without proof nor comment if you have anything to say its better you argue or comment on Mr.Todd who is claiming that he got offer from Indian buyer for his domain Trade.domains

If I say that I got big offer from Greece for one of my domain then what do you say about Greece Guys including you.

You are a professional be like a professional because you are running good site. Here everyone pretend to show off that they got very demanding domains its their individual thinking

what do you mean by truth ? do you know Mr. Marian is speaking truth and genuinely saying that he got offer from indian buyer for his domain and without knowing whether its true or false you comment that buyers from India are full of shit.

I feel its better for you to control your mind and tongue before you say anything without confirmation, speak truth every one welcome and respect your comment

“but I declined both becuse I thing the domain has huge potential so I expect higher offers.”

I am laughing Konstantinos because he said he turned down the 80 grand offer because he actually thinks it’s worth more. So it doesn’t matter if the guy in India is full of shit because this guy is full of shit. Would someone pay 80 grand for TradeDomains.com? Never. Ever.

Because you are a stupid That,s all. Got grandfather mentality. Youll see that in 5-10 years .COM will be death. Now the things are about BRANDABILITY and shortness, so TRADE.domains is much better than TradeDomains.com
Just forget about the .COM

The predictions of people who labeled the gTLDs as “novel” is actually apt. They said people who register these names will be saying “Look what I’ve got!”, not “Look what I’ve sold”, or “Look at what IBM, or Facebook or WallStreet Corporations are using as their main site”.

Like I stated yesterday, Speed is distance over time; if someone is walking 5 miles per hour from Los Angeles to Las Vegas, which is about 180 Miles, we don’t have to wait till he completes his journey to know how long it will take him; we can calculate it now. It will take him 36 hours.

Dot guru is one of the earliest gTLDs to operate widely, it started with a furious 10,000 registrations, and it’s petering out at 49,000; the rest are showing inferior numbers, and trends.

Now, Donuts raised over $300 Million dollars for the venture, so you’d have to take the whole scheme together. Do you think they’re on their way to recovering that initial investment? Remember, there are costs to running the thing. If you recall, it was revealed that dot CO was paying over $2 per name just for back-end support to their eventual suitor; not to mention salaries for employees, support, ICANN activities, healthcare, costs, incidentals, office supplies, etc

Besides, the issue is not if the Registries and registrars can make money confusing the internet; the issue is ADOPTION of the names by businesses, and regular folk. So, don’t tell me…

Why should I wait before I criticize people who didn’t wait to tear up the neighborhood? I’m not waiting for nothing. I will be factual, that’s all.

Adoption is going to be even slower!
It took the internet 20 years to get here. You want people to adopt new gtlds in 2 weeks or 2 months.
Developing a website or starting a simple company can take longer than that.

You say that there are no sales. I say there over 500 1k+ sales so far. Most are to end users.

Well, like the speed formula I gave you, let’s assume that adoption to us means 200 of Fortune 2000 companies, that’ll be 10%, adopting the new gTLDs in 5 years; that will mean that means that at least 2 should be using a new gTLD as of today for their primary site; do you have any names to give me right now?

Making companies pay money to protect their trademarks could hardly qualify as adoption of internet names. I’ve been doing this for a long time, and I can’t tell you which new gTLD is which; I can’t tell you 5 that has launched of the top of my head.

There are too many gTLDs.

Perhaps, you don’t know how the American business works as far as brand, they are very conservative, the New York guys who are in charge of branding for these corporations, will laugh you off the phone if you try to make them change from dot COM to dot whatever; the mom and pops has got other things to worry about, and the students, and regular people have Facebook, twitter, and Blogger for their websites.

Your formula is bullshit. Adoption is never linear. Always exponential and very very slow at first. Maybe you need to take a look at .com numbers over the past 20 years. Year 1 didn’t have 5 million registrations.

And no fortune 500 will leave their .com. Nobody said that. They are not crazy.

“And even if your formula should work it would start after all new gtlds launch. Not after guru and 6 others launched…”

It’s not my formula, it’s math.

Averages is the name of the game. When you take from dot guru with about 46594 registrations to dot Tattoo with about 1341 as of today, there are 55 new gTLDs, that gives you an average of 871 per gTLD. That is hardly impressive. Perhaps you look at your new toys and your eyes pop, Zournas, you still have to deal with math; you don’t want to quarrel with numbers.

It’s not 6 gTLDs that have launched, get real pal. You are fond of telling us how many registrations have occured, and you do it precisely, when it comes to the number of gTLDs that produced them, you can’t be shy about that. If you doubt it, I will list the names.

Finally, you can’t compare the launch and adoption of dot com to anything else, because, the internet was a new phenomenon, nobody knew what it was; you didn’t have facebook, youtube, twitter, blogger, and other social media to contend with; today, everybody knows what they are getting into.

Look, look at the trend. When the gTLD launches started, there was a rush by you, and other domainers to grab .venture, .tattoo, dot sexy, what happened after that? Think! You dropped them like used tissue paper, and rush to the next one; that will continue until the anniversary of renewals. So, registration is NOT LINEAR! It’s cyclical. When renewals come around, then it’s deduction time, what’s calle REMOVAL.

Let’s see, dot CO launched many years after dot com, why do you have to reach back that far? When dot CO launched, it garnered over 500,000 the first month. Compare that to all gTLDs combined at less than that.

It took mankind over a billion years to develop blak and white television; and less than 20 years to get color TV, and even less than that to get HD. Mankind did not have to say, hey, it took a billion years for black and white so give it another billion for HD. Technology, such as internet protocol is modular. In today’s age, unlike when dot com launched, ideas go viral in minutes; if new gTLDs are popular, they will trend on Twitter and facebook, or Pheed, or Youtube, those are communications that were not available for dot com. You are comparing apples to oranges.

My cited statistics are very much relevant. You own more dot coms than dotsexy, dot tattoo, dot clothing and many other dotwhatevers combined, and they launched over 2 months ago; dotwhatevers have been in the making for almost a decade. There hundreds of them, if they have no traction by now, it is a major factor in the calculus, get it?

All I write is math, so prove them wrong, not calling me names. Is speed not distance over time? Can’t you tell where one or something is going based on the rate it is traveling? I can. Dot guru reached 40,000 registrations over a month ago, and it’s taking it another month to get to 45000, that is called stalling, or petering out. Live with it, Zournas. Your dog is not hunting, not my fault.

make no mistake about it, the new gTLDs must be adopted by the masses or business in order for it to sustain; and the public will not rush into it in one day, they have to go at it at a certain “rate”, and that rate is what I am calculating. Is it 300 a day? Is it 1000 a day? Or is it domainers trickling in at 50 to 60 at irregular intervals, after a pump by you and your fellow wishful thinkers?

You cannot count defensive trademark registrations in this adoption.
“Exponential” is a mathematical term that denotes rapid growth, and it has a curve to tap from time, and other exponents, where do you see such growth on the new TLDs? Show me. Oh that’s right I have to wait till all the gTLDs launch, right? Or better ones come on…

You don’t know what you are saying.
You are comparing billions of years to 20 years and then to 1 month.
Now .whatevers are 10 years old? lol
From the top 50 new gtlds only 1 has come out. Get that?
Again we don’t compare new gtlds to .com. Only you do that, so argue with yourself.
No data = no curve. Get that? Wait for the other 950 new gtlds give them a year and then say what you say.
Exponential curves tend to zero at the beginning of the curve. You know math?
And again this is not compared with .com. Get that? I never said .com is dead. Get that?
It is not my dog. Stop this incoherent bullshit.
Thanks

You said… “We don’t have to wait till he completes his journey to know how long it will take him; we can calculate it now”

In my opinion, there are at least 3 key events that are yet to happen that will have an influence:

A) The supply stops… How many domainers are going to buy at multiple times what was originally paid? They will surely just buy multiples of the best names in the next set of releases.

B) The top names reserved by each registry are released… They may be developed to help promote awareness of the extension to the public, or they may auctioned to the highest bidder, but setting some price expectations. (For example, Vegetarian.Recipes is registry reserved, and so I would expect Vegan.Recipes to be positively affected by either event.)

C) Public awareness… It isn’t that end users have seen the new extensions and rejected them. They are hardly aware of them yet, and the best way to sell a name in the next year will be through proactive marketing.

CarronDomains: You said: ” It isn’t that end users have seen the new extensions and rejected them. They are hardly aware of them yet, and the best way to sell a name in the next year will be through proactive marketing”.

You’d be surprised how savvy the public is. They pretend not to know, when they don’t want to know; the public is aware more than you and i combined. They know dot aero, dot travel, dot biz, dot co, whatever exists, they just don’t wanna know

The public, i assume, if they know that cows and pigs are slaughtered by the butcher to produce the meat they conveniently pickup at the supermarket, will turn vegetarian; so guess what, they don’t wanna know. Somehow I presume they have an inkling of the butcher’s deeds.

But discover gold nuggets at the foot of a mountain, and watch the public swam like bees.

I asked Zournas for 2 of Fortune 2000 companies using a new gTLD, just two! But nyet, he can’t produce it. Listen, I’ll compromise, give me just one, and expand it to Fortune 5000, that is using the new gTLD as their main site!

The clock is running, it’ll be one year anniversary for dot guru, dot sexy, dot tattoo, etc in about 7 months, you’ll see them sending out renewal notices in less than 6 months; that’s when the rubber will hit the road for these registrants, 6 months!

“Adoption is always exponential. What you say is all bullshit because you never reply to what I say.
You say something completely irrelevant to contradict me” – Zournas

First of all, when you said only 6 gTLDs is out, I responded by saying that you are wrong, that I count 55! That’s a direct response. One must be smoking pot, for one to accept that only 6 new gTLDs are out. One mightn’t contain the award of Pinocchios one could garner from such statement.

Secondly, you say that I contradict you with “something irrelevant”, well we agree that I DO contradict you, however, relevance is in the eye of the beholder.

Age is irrelevant, if you recall dot berlin screamed out of the door, the first day with over 30,000 Registrations, whereas dot tattoo the elder, is still under 2000.

In my opinion, if domain names are metered by the day or weekly, or even month to month, many who purchased these names 2 months ago would have dropped many of them.

Your approach to the dot whatevers is skewed because you are looking at them from dot com lenses. Most of these dotwhatevers are experience what’s termed “still birth”, you can give them all the time you want, they are going no where. It is counter-intuitive that ICANN will release several hundred dotwhatevers, and the public will adopt even one of them, when they already have something that works, dot com and ccTLDs.

You said earlier: “I have 1 .ventures, 0 tattoo, 1 sexy. Now you are talking about renewals when 3 minutes ago your were talking about adoption.
All you write is bullshit. No coherence”.

There is an imposed relation between adoption and renewal, in a parabola, or range. There’s is a functional relation there. No adoption, no renewal, got me? So, I’m speaking about both., perhaps, one before the other. But their vertical lines intersect.

Now age is irrelevant? Is it also irrelevant to the new gtlds that are not out yet?
You can’t pick .tattoo and expect it to be the new gtld with the adoption.

Every new gtld is different. Many are going nowhere. I think that the top 50 will be going somewhere.
The adoption, if any, will come from the top 50 new gtlds that will be out next year.
What you are saying now is just noise.

Again 1 month in (average) and you are talking about renewals. Wait and see.
And of course .guru will see a lot of drops. It was the first out and a lot of people made impulse buys.
Check the renewals rates for the top 50 when the time comes.

You put all new gltds in one basket and only the uncontested ones are out.

Why do you have so much disrespect for dot guru? It is numero uno. I’m just dealing with facts. Mathematically, dot guru is number one.

Zournas, have you noticed that all your hopes and glory Re: the new gTLDs is always in the future ones? That is a disturbing facet of dreaming. You have no respect for any of the over 50 that has launched? BUT you’ve spent uncountable thousands of dollars purchasing them? In one instance, you bought 75 names from one string!
Tsk Tsk Tsk…

I own DNAsequencing.com and many Exact Match Domains related to this niche. Most of my new registrations are related to this niche and are what is called “Defensive Registration”. By getting DNAsequencing.company and DNAsequencing.technology I have earned enough peace of mind.

why not just some geos like the top 100 metropole
for science the .science
some sozial like .club .sport .blog .art .news .mail
for business the .trade and .shop
.. and all companies that like to have a cheap own domain (who cares)

Maybe icann are short on native English speakers, but I agree, there are some absurb gTLDs … dot sucks and dot wtf doesn’t promote well a very intellectual group of people who nominated these two gTLDs and poorly represent the English language. I could write forever on the subject, but I’ll leave it at that, as I’m sure any sensible person on here would agree with your sentiments …

Just be patient, these new gtlds are like bubbles, they will eventually pop and we will come down to the very useful ones. The remaining ones will disappear or will be remain private, owned by big companies.

I do not believe that investing in those domain names is a good idea. I did in the past with some .com, but I am not convince here.
If you have good arguments, I would love to se them. My opinion (until now) is here : https://medium.com/p/92059660bf11

I see a mistake in the reasoning in the comments here. The majority of the high sells are related to the fact that buyer expect to get the money back by using the domain name. vodka.com is a great place to sell vodka, because it ranks well. .COM are well seen in SEO because people spend time to put content on them. Parked domains are banned form Google for a while. Because not enough end user will invest their time in publishing on a .something domain, the new extension will been seen as mainly spam/scam/cybersquatting by google, and the whole extension will never rank correctly. It is what happened with the .us, it has been burn by domainers in term in SEO. .COM or .DE, .CO.UK … were bought by end-users before domainers entered the game, I do not see that for all those .something.
Look at the pending delete lists, or domain names ranking, they all take into account the monthly searched and the PPC. If you can’t be seen in Search Engines, it is really not worst the money. The name itself is not enough, especially because you have to teach your user that red.cab is a URL, and that they souldn’t type redcab.com to order a taxi. Anyway, nobody enters URL anymore, google does the job, and as said, some extensions will be blacklisted soon because of the behavior of the domain names owners.

Guys this time I didnt do well because not convincing extensions for me anyhow successful to registered couple domains as follows. I welcome your comments or compliments

– Miss.International ( Miss International (Miss International Beauty or The International Beauty Pageant) is an annual international beauty pageant held since 1960.)
– CruiseLines.International (Cruise Lines International Association (CLIA) is an association of cruise lines. It merged with International Council of Cruise Lines (ICCL) in 2006)
– Drug.International
– Gulf.International

Squatting on someone else’s brand is never a good business plan, so I would offer a resounding “0” on Miss.International, for that seems to be the actual name of the organization and appears to be registered for the purpose of squatting on someone else’s mark (you have pretty admitted this here, and a cagey TM holder could actually use your own comment against you in a domain dispute).

You might get away with CruiseLines, depending HOW you use it. If you use it in a generic sense, then maybe, but if it becomes a link farm, filled with Cruise Lines International ads, beware.

I’m not just blowing smoke here; Google “Canyon.bike” to see what can happen when one registers a left- and right-of-the-dot TM.

You should read up on this industry before registering a bunch of troublesome (for you) domains.

But I have a feeling that you may be learning this lesson first hand — and soon.

Ms Domainer first of all thank you for great comment and description about trademark. For your kind information I am not Squatting on someone else’s brand .international is an new domain extension but I didnt opt to register something like MissInternational.com then we can doubt squatting on someones brand.

I tag “Miss International Beauty or The International Beauty Pageant) is an annual international beauty pageant” because it resembles the domain miss.international ( miss meaning a title of respect for an unmarried woman and its general keyword not resemble to any brand ) and would like to develop this site for dating international for singles

Let say if .pageant or .beauty are new domains extension then following domains can considering as squatting

MissInternational.pageant
MissInternational.beauty

As every one knows when we place order for new domains registration if any trademark exist then we come across trademark claim if you click agree then you are allowed to registered it on your own risk but coming to “miss” keyword I didnt come across any trademark alert while placing order

URS and UDRP take into account both keywords left and right of the dot.
The case you describe is for a 1 word trademark.
If the trademark was “Miss International” then there wouldn’t be a warning but you would still be infringing.

i am very careful with buying domains atm. only if I see a way for a own project with it.
in other words: if I would not buy it, why should someone else …

donuts and the other guys are reserving every domain where they see more money behind .. that means that there is no reseller money behind with those witch are able.
the big problem with trends is, if nobody will create websites, nobody will buy a domain.

for example pizza.house
this is for sure nothing super special but a nice name for a pizza restaurant. but its reserved
.. from my place it looks like donuts and co are choking the own new gtlds.

what they are doing is not serios !

lets see what frank is doing next thusday .. I hope he will not make the same stupid mistake again. tattoo died by golive

I wanted to pre-order this domain on Godaddy but it was unavailable so it’s impossible you got it through a normal reg. It’s a reserved name so you will get a refund for your purchase from the registrar you purchased it at.

“V”, this is a difficult gTLD to match up to and there are so many being released each week, I’d wait to see what comes out each week and try and get some good TLD’s that flow and are natural in the English language … if you don’t succeed, let the day go by and fight another day. Also, you can look back and see if there is something available on the off-chance from previous releases, for example, I registered inhouse.solutions today. I would not try to put a round peg into a square hole with a miss mash of words that simply don’t fit together. With due respects, mega.solar looks good, but does not dovetail well and you will have difficulty making money with this domain name. If you do make money with this, then good luck to you.

I welcome your opinions but request you to search for “Big.solar” domain on godaddy.com & search for “Mega Solar” or “Mega Solar Power Plant” on google. As per my knowledge Mega.Solar flow and natural in English language than Big.Solar

“V” … I’d let this go and move on to better things. Don’t beat yourself up over one domain name. Donuts are looking for a donut to pay 400 bucks a year. Nobody in their right mind would pay an annual renewal fee for such a poor domain name. They are banking on that its a 3 letter word and big means large area in this instance. I can’t see what other selling merits they can used to demand this kind of money. If you want to pay 400 dlrs, give it to me and I’ll buy a lot better at 25 to 40 dlrs a name in General Availability. They are just trying it on, don’t get sucked in to this rubbish.

I welcome both of your opinions but request you to search for “Big.solar” domain on godaddy.com & search for “Mega Solar” or “Mega Solar Power Plant” on google. As per my knowledge Mega.Solar flow and natural in English language than Big.Solar

I wouldn’t go near godaddy.com even if you paid me. As I said in my last post, good luck if you can make money out of this. ‘Mega.Solar’ is being used by various companies, not least a Greek company megasolar.gr! For me personally, I would steer clear of anything that is likely to caused TM infringement. That doesn’t mean to say I don’t make mistakes, nobody is perfect. (I tried for cracked.codes only to get a rap over the knuckles for TM infringement). With regard to ‘Mega Solar Power Plant’, this is a press release headline re a massive plant to be built in India, so I would not use it as I am a one man band, again, don’t invite or risk TM problems. The other thing about it, is that it is too long for a domain name. You want one word names to the left of the dot only, (two words maximum) 99% of the time. As much as I like dot coms, it was becoming increasingly difficult to create one or two word domains but now there is no excuse not to with this release of the new gTLDs.

Ray man you should stay away from other companies brands. Like you have no reason to do that in 2014…if someone asked you for one good reason why you would register century21, canada411 and royallepage what would your answer be? too bad you wasted your money on those but may be you need to learn a lesson?

“V” that is utterly ridiculous … are you sure? All names are only premium to the holders but only a very select few can be premium names because you soon run out of one word fits … and this is two words and since when in the English language did “RealEstates” fit naturally with “dot Club”? Anyone with any gumption would not touch it with a barge pole because it does not fit! As far as I’m concerned, the world has gone mad …

What you said is right andrew world has gone Mad anything can happen out of imagination. Only one domain I purchased none other than RealEsates.Club as I am searching to find if any good ones available in fact every one knows most of the catchy domains are reserved and auctioned on sedo. I come across RealEstate.Club premium domain name listed for 137,499.99 USD on 101domains.com and as soon as I found RealEsates.Club available then I placed an order ultimately within couple of hours I got an offer of 7000$ from one buyer same with America.Directory I got offer within couple of hours. Most of the domainers knows registrar reserved .club catch domains but still most of the domainers never take step back and try their best to find good ones even I use to do same but now I stopped hitting my head to wall. I registered RealEsates.club on psychological think if someone willing to spare 137,499.99 USD for RealEstate.club naturally I get 1/0th offer.

Maybe John but even at 137.49 I wouldn’t pay it. If it has come down to General Availability and nobody has wanted it prior (or thought it up), what does that tell you? It’s not worth it and paying $137.49 in GA is robbing the buyer. I didn’t get any dot clubs on release because I couldn’t get what I wanted, although after some mental debate I took kalooki.club this morning arguing in my mind it is better to own one reasonably named club than none at all, and this gives me an opening in the card playing niche which is very popular on the Internet. And what’s my point? kalooki.club cost me 11 dollars and 6 cents which is hardly a reckless risk, one word, popular niche, should not be impossible to find a buyer if I wished to sell it. If someone is offering “V” 4 figures for realestates.club and the same with america.directory, then snatch their hands off before they change their minds. IMO, america.directory is not a good fit, american.directory yes but as a geo, a nightmare because there are two american continents! I’ve got to give V credit as he certainly knows how to provoke a debate! And newdomain.club? It has a short shelf life of less than 2 years when they stop selling the new gTLDs. You can’t call them new domains forever.

I welcome a buyer who offer me 5 or more digits not john or andrew I just welcome their comments or compliments. Nothing is permanent demand in domain world either its newdomain.club or anything else just grab the opportunity to earn jump to whats next.

You appear to be totally negative about these new gtlds but I only bought just six of them and won’t register any more of these neither nor plan to keep them for ten years though one never knows! Usually I only restrict having good two-word exact match .com domains as listed in my own site which is now revamped with all-important new addition of hidden URLs.

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It is really interesting to read people’s thoughts on these new gTLD’s. There doesn’t seem to be much faith in them but what a lot of people seem to be forgetting is the internet is STILL very young. I also believe the internet will change for the better when these new domains take hold because it will become more organized and logical. 10 years from now .com domains will still be popular but only because they were the original domains, they will be like internet antiques. I say this because when people start getting used to typing in gTLD’s, .com’s won’t be used as much. They will eventually become less and less important in terms of finding websites. They may still be valuable because of their history but it’s pretty obvious that the .com was always unsustainable.

I also think the days of million $ domains is going away. The internet is indeed changing and it doesn’t take a genius to imagine how things will change.

I bought a few gTLD domains myself.
I have tried to sell but people don’t seem interested in them just yet but they will in a few years once they realize they are here to stay.

The domains I bought were:

Folio.Domains
Freelance.Directory
Traffic.Training

I wanted to get Portfolio.Domains but someone beat me to it so I got the next best.

I also have a prediction for the future that may sound crazy today. I believe that .info domains will go back up in value once these new gTLD’s have been around for a while because .info was the most successful of the first 7 gTLD domains ever launched. When people are familiar with typing gTLD domains in their address bar, naturally, people will start to type .info hoping to find information on something. This is only a prediction but there is a method to my madness. Time will tell I guess.

The combined search volume + CPC value of the term “Wedding” ranks in top 5% of all single word search terms.

Plus the gTLD “.DIRECTORY” is already synonymous with WEDDING.

If you had a dozen complimentary single words + obvious TLD’s like http://www.Wedding.Directory, there is no doubt you could sell them for $99K, I just don’t see how those search terms and TLD’s you currently have listed make sense to most consumers.

It’s just a matter of time before developers like me develop on new gtlds and people start to get used to them. Of course they are gonna go with them, a one word new gtld is much more elegant than a 2 or 3 words .com imo. The shorter the better. It’s just gonna take some time for the end-user to adopt them.

You might say that new generic extensions that came out before like .biz didn’t work so new gtlds won’t too, but there is a massive difference right now. Unlike the past, tons of new gtlds are coming out at the same time, so it’s a major change in the domain world. A change that can’t be ignored by the end-user.

it is amazing to me the level of sheer stupidity exhibited by some of you and your names, since you are posting what is supposedly your best gtld. Are you for real? The lists included within are dumb, dumber and dumbest!

Hey some friends of mine and I are working on the economics of some gtlds such as .ink, .expert, .deals, .christmas, .pink, .tatoo, .email, .tips, .today, .technology, .solutions e.t.c

We started this as part of our Stanford technology class research. We analyze zone files, traffic, mx records, buzz e.t.c and i am wondering if some of you want to join in. We are putting together a 16U cluster (HP Proliant DL380p Gen8 and PE’s of openstack, Maas and juju) for data crunching. Let me know if you want to be involved in the project.

A few findings in the last 2 weeks:

1. We did an MVP and decided that we should scale to crunch the data.
2. the numbers looked really bad. About 5000 individuals are responsible for the majority of the domain names. The average (low) registration being 19.6 per individual (domainers?).
3. Arbitrary pricing is the nail in the coffin.
4. Over saturation apparent (good for the customer bad for large alternative inventory holders)
5. Supposedly return on investment if any is average of 8 years

Lack of marketing investments and poor decision quality on the side of registries and registers is something that should worry everyone. The first part is obvious. The second part can be illustrated with the one fact; “tienda” is one of the most popular search words on the internet with 443,000,000 million queries in 22000 microseconds with the bulk of these searches coming from latin America. The current marketing efforts and the pricing represents a gross misunderstanding of the industry scope and the value of this extension; if only the owners had an understanding of how bigdata works and how it could be used to push new products or abandon them for that matter.

How do you culture or reklame an email ???????
I am a great believer in .email but only if you have a geo domain
If you could register Berlin.email or any other big city you could probably make a lot of money developing it but yours are useless

a fair point bul… you’ll pay a bit of a premium but you will get domains of a consistently good value (including vetting for tm issues) if you buy from the right party. That sound like a better use of a significant amount of cash, imho. Pay extra, shorten your learning curve. 🙂

I’m bullish on the cannabis market and one of the hottest emerging trends in new names for categories of things and activities is the term ‘710’ as a compliment to the classic ‘420’ except for the new forms of concentrates/oils being made from the plant. (evidently, ‘710’ is ‘OIL’ upside down, go figure – yet there are now ‘710’ events and press coverage)

I feel that I have one of the better ‘710’ portfolios out there (the OGs of the cannabis name space kinda missed the ‘710’ thing it seems).

All told we’re talking over a hundred focused .com names which together could be the basis for a diversified consumer products brand.

And yes, there are some new gTLD compliments in there too.

Portfolios are awesome.

But V, it took me years and lots and lots of expenditure to get to where I could watch the ‘710’ phenomenon in the media and proceed to reg. a portfolio from the idea.

Lots of research. It does help the tm issues that this is an emerging market. 🙂

Point is, really its good portfolios that are awesome.

If you want to learn, then be prepared to spend a bunch of money on relative crap and do your best to not become liable for tm or other issues during the process.

If you want to invest before learning how to buy, you must pay deal with someone trustworthy and pay them a premium to either sell to you or buy for you.

Yeah Max, kind of reminds me where I started. I guess there is some glory in learning but I’d prefer to eliminate the pain. I remember when I jumped in 7 years ago. I bought EVERYTHING .mobi, .co, .everything ignoring the guidance I got from some of you guys and Rick. And stubbornly, I still have domains I refuse to sell.

I sat on 3000 domains for years and I can tell you that I have NO .mobi left and I have dumped all my .biz, domains I once thought of as premium. Plus the renewal fees where killers every year. Saying to myself, i am only 25y/o and things will turn out. From my original 3000 registrations, I probably ended up selling 40 (the ones that somebody contacted me and said “could you mind selling me the domain “last name.com” for my new company), which inspired me to go back and collect and hassle last names for example “goldstein.com” not that I own that particular but you get the drift..I dumped almost 70% of my original portfolio and went on to collect portfolios.

But I wish learning wast that expensive…

In the end, I like to caution newbies and you can tell by what they register. Unless you come from a branding/naming background where you have a pipeline for your enduser sale or happen to be at the cusp of a major technology development and you have the resources to sit on your inventory for 5 years, stay away from impulsive buying and speculation. Every one of us has some “wish I din’t story” but it doesn’t have to be that way.

The days of flipping are long over and ppc or packing revenue is non existent. The internet is so ubiquitous right now that people are no longer straying to parked pages for search recommendations and the future will NOT even allow parked pages to appear anywhere except for direct type in traffic and who does that?

I am not saying that i am not buying gTLD’s. I have only bought in 2 mostly .city domains because I think that follows a natural progression curve from general, to country to city but even with that, my exposure does not exceed 15 generic words in a specific city based on algorithmic search, for which I think I can venture into. 😉

“Unless you come from a branding/naming background where you have a pipeline for your enduser sale or happen to be at the cusp of a major technology development and you have the resources to sit on your inventory for 5 years”

I think this is spot on, especially the bit about an established pipeline for enduser sales.

“.mobi”

reminds me of the Starship Titanic 😉

“exposure does not exceed 15 generic words in a specific city”

Sounds good, and for V’s benefit I’d venture a guess that you have an established set of extensively researched generic terms that you work with?

“direct type in traffic and who does that?”

Honestly, I’m thinking that there may actually be a chance that *very few* of the new gTLDs may experience some type-in traffic as early adopting endusers experiment with the new name space… again though, I can only imagine **very** few if any addresses experiencing significant benefit from this potential effect.

My biggest fear after working with the handful of the new gTLDs that I have (in my head I call them the narrative TLDs 🙂 is the .com typo like:

I have example.newgtld
I am less concerned about the examplenewgtld.com confusion than I am about the exampe.newgltd.com issue.

I have found my self adding a .com to my own addresses.

That really gave me pause.

I think that the owners of the .com equivalents to the new gTLDs may be some of the biggest single winners out of all of this, certainly in the near term.

V, I seem to remember you making similar comments above.
I don’t know what you data you are ‘cross-checking’ against… I’m guessing that you are just using some filtering tool at your registrar or some such?

“No need to worry about trademark ( Micro means Small )”

Micro may mean small, but the other part of this statement is just plain wrong.

I took literally two minutes to look this up, and longer to write this comment.

I think most people would find it incredible that you could have purchased micro.care without prior knowledge of the address microcare.com, especially given your history of ‘sophisticated’ domain investing.

Thus, while you can say ‘I cross-checked it and its fine’ that doesn’t mean much.

I take back my comment about a la carte medical services. To develop this name look for a use that is unique (ie not in an industry where the use of the words may have tm issues).

If any has good suggestions for tm research tools, now would be a great time to share 🙂

YellowPages means business directory it doesnt mean only american company should have yellowpages websites. I agree if any company have international trademarks something like google, yahoo, microsoft ………. then we should keep away from such keywords.

tm-wise I feel way better about this one, its a very generically descriptive term which in most cases would likely also describe an aspect of the user’s business and perhaps for these reasons did not appear in the few minutes of research that I did for this comment… and the string actually sounds ok to the ear.

This is getting better V 🙂

however, the big Q to me is ‘who is the end user?’… for this domain, what business wants to advertise to it’s own customers by using this descriptive address?

What business would be interested in an SEO experiment trying to rank for these generic terms (which, btw & imho, would be an interesting experiment that would take at least 6 months to see results from and would require high quality content planning)?

Have you tried to pitch any of your domains to anyone in person (really, live and in person, not via the web)?

If not, I highly recommend talking with some friends who have businesses or even just local shops (like a furniture maker or seller for instance) and get a sense of how they see and value domains in terms of their business.

I have found such experiences very valuable to learning how to buy names that business owners then want to buy from me.

I have trouble imagining what business would be interested *enough* in export.furniture to see it as a significant asset which has real value to them. Without knowing how this address will create significant value (increased sales) for a well funded company, I think its hard to imagine this domain as being a very good investment.

Perhaps you have some insight in this industry that I don’t. If so, please do share your thinking 🙂

I meant to highlight that even to try likely will end up needing to renew… My experience is that it can take into the second year to really figure out how to effectively work with a property and to see if one can achieve strong results… ie, its not a quick flip scenario

@V you’re getting better. I see some use for export.furniture for a mega furniture distribute to use as for referral purposes. But i am not sure if .furniture is the kind of extension I would put my money into. Its so out there in the confined space of niche that I feel uncomfortable. Our pointers aren’t just on TM’s. We want you to exercise caution when buying.

Maybe we need to put you on the spot may we just have to pick each others brains. If John, Max, you, me and even @k what to go after it, we could arrange a googlehangout. Again we are not trying to talk you down.

Yet, as the great Zig Ziglar says
“You don’t have to be great to start, but you have to start to be great.”

I often think of addresses using analogies drawn from physics.
I think of addresses as having ‘potential energy’ and the process of developing or selling them to others for development is analogous to realizing, or releasing that ‘potential energy’ as an aid to commerce (even if only in ideas).

Using water in the example, I think of a great address as being a position which holds a significant amount of water (read ‘meaning’) at a significant elevation (other name metrics like length and tld).

Developing that address is then a bit like building a water wheel or some other apparatus to translate the potential energy of the name into some kinda kinetic energy within the system of a website-within-the-web, all with the aim of accomplishing the work of commerce more effectively than others.

idk, thats all sounding a bit daft… makes more sense in my head, what can I say? 🙂

Point was supposed to be: developing or selling is 80% or more of the overall process and requires significant further investments of time (and either learning more skills or paying experts); thus, don’t get into names that you realistically can’t/won’t carry all the way through.

Hey V One exposure per extension seems logical so yeah thats not bad. But you still can mitigate by reducing further exposure by ignoring domains such as .bike, .color and many such. If you can’t hold it and do something with it, don’t touch it. Now psych you to remember that you’re making an investment not a flip as you’re going to hold on to them for a while.

I resold 2 x .cruises domains last week, one cost $77 stage 5 godaddy registration, the other cost $385 in stage 4. Each returned $3500 via a broker who settled via escrow.com in a timely manner. One was the name of a famous river for cruises, the other a popular time of year for European river cruises. Time will tell if the market holds up, but I am pleased with the super fast results which came to me unsolicited. I’m now well, well cost free for the other 45+ .cruises domains.

Site names that suit affiliate content will IMHO be popular in the future for well named gTLD’s, and is how I am developing a number of my other .cruises domains.

Do your homework and be passionate about the particular markets you target is my advice.

sure I know and I bought some, but most good german kyes are gone by landrush
i decided not to buy things like tiere.koeln etc. i did not know that koeln will end up with 12k after the first day. I was surprised.

Not koeln and cologne or any other gTLD. Though I played in .berlin (both german and its english variant), .tokyo (english and japanese-romaji) and .london; pre-registrations and I was lucky to get some category defining due to my early pre-reg with 3 registries.

I did not pay a penny in any land rush. My exposure is to the max of 13 domains single word category definers. Oh I have 2 .tienda for personal interests in Latin America

i think that chosing domains for personal interesst is still the best. everything else is completely gaming.
for example I bought foto.haus for personal and i like it the most.

fireplaying: i am not able to put it away. they stuck on my hand. maybe u know that feeling .. yes .. no .. away .. no .. i payed .. dosnt matter .. no ..
but u right and others in here warned me too. i am not feeling well with them.
there are never supid questions: do u think i should ask them directly if its ok to hold the domain ? is there maybe a chance ?

not agree with you,first of all cab.nyc has been reserved and no one can purchase it, personally i like newyork.cab better than cab.nyc. plus domain like newyork.cab is gold and can be sold anytime. i already have 3 offers all in xx.xxxx range. but not interested to sell it anytime soon.

I don’t that it is the number 1 vacation spot. 🙂
But anyway have you ever heard “florida global” in a sentence?
Maybe if you find a company called that but that is a long shot.
Try with words that go well together and maybe with the more popular new gtlds.

Hi Konstantinos, thank you. Obviously the single word ones are best but I think interiordesign.agency is also very good, because those 3 words are usually said together in that order when referring to just that! Followed by the Rental Car ones where the Agency word is also often used.

Hi ROYAL, actually when I first registered laptops.cheap I put up a WooCommerce Template with WordPress, tied into the Amazon API, but I just havent got the time to develop it further, let alone drive traffic to it. I think I will just sit on the domain and wait for a juicy offer to come in further down the road.

i know what u mean. i takes a lot of time to create and push it (boring work)

i told my girlfriend about seo (google ranking) and badabuum
nicole.gallery is on place 1 if you search for “nicole gallery”
(i am curious if it is just in switzerland or outside as well)
I was stunned.

if i got the time for it and not surfing on konstantinos page 🙂 .
I will try it with wochenendhaus.kaufen as well (4k searchvolume). lets see if it works as well.

Here on google.de nicolegallery.com is top of Google and your site does not appear on the 1st page. Interesting that google.ch ranks it Nr1. I guess your WHOIS and Hosting are in CH and obviously all the keywords and Imprint on the site are too.

Also, for people to search “nicole gallery” they would already have to know the name of your site, so it’s a very exact search and not that difficult to rank. To position the site Nr1 for “photoshooting in basel” would obviously be much more desirable so that potential new customers find the site using generic keywords. good luck!

@Silver, thanks for checking
of corse, “nicole gallery” got no search volume and its senseless. so its much more easier to get a ranking. “photoshooting basel” or “foto basel” is interessting.
i dont know how is google exactly working with countries. NS, keywords like basel, google my business, and she told me that she used the geo target in webmaster tools as well)

laptops.cheap would be interessting to see if its works as well.

@ Konstatinos
Thanks a lot for googeling. I will give that info to Nicole

“cheap laptops” is a highly competitive keyword on google.com with a huge CPC so just putting a site up with some content will not work. but in the hands of the right company with the right budget, this domain could be very powerful not only for seo but also for branding purposes.

2) 48 of these addresses are available in .Com
2a) This is either an indicator that there is no strong market at present for the term, or
2b) That (especially for future-focus names) buying the .Com is a branding no-brainer 🙂

Thank you for replying so quickly! I have read and re-read your post several times and I can only thank you so much for your insights and good advices Max. I will definitely take everything you said into account.
I appreciate your time and effort.
I would love to hear other peoples opinions on this, especially Kosta’s.
Can’t wait 🙂

So now you could build out MacauConsulting.Com as specialists in the various industries that are represented in your portfolio… eg. Cruises or Trade or whatever… do an anaysis of the market there (and your capacities to serve it) and pick your winners…

Then buy the matching .Com addresses if you can –> eg. if you feel Macao.Cruises is a winner (meaning you know exactly how you will make money – lead generation or affiliate links or direct sale of domain & site, etc.) go buy MacaoCruises.Com (available, btw).

Are you in Macao to ‘hit the bricks’ and sell your services/sites? if not, are you able to call/contact businesses to make a pitch? If you can’t move your inventory one way or another you might be heading down a road with little profit at the end, fyi 🙂

Cheers Kosta! Thank you very much for taking the time to answer and think about my questions. I appreciated your response and am thankful for the advice! Yes, I am based in London indeed. Thanks to all you who take the time to offer us your pearls of wisdom. I wish you lots of success for the future. All the best.
Ivan

Subhash, you have a serious problem and too much time on your hand. See your psychiatrist ASAP and if he decide to lock you up in a mental institution let me know where so I can send you a parcel for Christmas

Follow Bul’s advice and get niched up in your buying based on actual market research 🙂

For example, when I looked up those 3d addresses for you I saw one that I didn’t pass along because its in one of my strongest niches… It just dropped, and I am so freakin’ thrilled to have landed it – 3dHemp.Com

Look over the drop lists for your keywords every other day, build a strong watchlist of domains to have on-tap 🙂

you can start with namejet.com though I really recommend you take the time to read and look at other marketplaces/services and how the whole thing works before diving in – for instance some services charge whether or not the attempt is successful, others charge only if successful and so on. Look for a service that also lets you build a watchlist of names that are coming up but you are not going to try for, and then track them (as well as the names you fail to grab – also, always look what service the winner was using) as they drop so that you have a list of names that you can pull out of a hat.

Another couple of good domain drop sites Dropcatch.com and FreshDrop.com (Freshdrop is great as it will give you some handy information on the domain history)

As Rick Schwartz says sometimes you can find a few gold nuggets in the mines. FreshDrop.com is what most of the Sherpa’s from DomainSherpa.com hosted by Michael Cyger.

The best thing to do is join a lot of domain forums and watch a lot of DomainSherpa.com interviews and take notes.

The key is not to buy too many domains at once and only purchase a domain if you think it is better the your last purchase. I went a little crazy at the begging but lucky not too over the top and DNForum.com has saved me a lot of heartache in the begging.

When purchasing a domain think of how it could be developed as a business or find a successful mentor in the business.

.city is a wonderful new gtld. if u got some congrats!
all I checked was reserved and i am still crying for the basel.city (i am from basel, a small town with 200k in switzerland) this one was reserved as well.

@Royal, sorry to hear your hometown .city domain name was reserved by the registry, which is said to be due to ICANN’s policy.

I wouldn’t call Basel a “small town” though, considering it’s the 3rd most populous city in the country. Anyway, that would’ve been a great domain name for you to have (as an investment or collection), and even develop, for your city.

i got the basel.today and I am posting photos that I took on it. about 30 or 40 photos atm. this is only for my hobby (with no business) the site is growing up with every event in basel 🙂
basel.today is a nice name and I like it very much

a.vodka is’nt the same as any other single letter domains such as b.vodka or c.vodka etc. a.vodka means ‘a vodka’. Subdomain can be added to make it more meaningful for example like drink.a.vodka. You are right that not all single letter domains are meaningful.

Not sure what is happening but I reviewed most of the threads, and domains above, there were some decent names, not any category killers I saw, but for the most part being on the ground floor, you guys are missing the vision. Some of the lists are looking to be expensive lessons.

Let me tell you guys some of the top notch names are hard to sell, or getting $500 or less offers, with the end users not knowing about premiums, some of these names you have to get to a point of saturation which occurred in .com basically around year 10. You can’t afford to hold these for that long, Quality, not quantity.

No no no every time a stronger domain is taken (including plurals), you should fold. There is no reason to be the guy with the alternative. I always buy singulars and plurals for protection or i am no interested.

Top is not really used to express quality of a gift. But could be brandable at least . Your other two is very bad/ 247. gifts has no meaning , since its a weird number of gifts. If it was 1000.gifts then i would like it, but the number you have neither too low nor too high, which doesnt work for gifts. And its obvious why i dont like Sydney.London

Raymond, if you have to explain meaning, its not a great domain. Especially with amount of gtlds available, anything less then great shouldn’t be registered. If it was .com , then sure those are great names. But when it comes to gtld, anything less then great is bad. There is no good enough.

This my measure for .nyc registrations, if its not great, i dont want it. And .nyc is a lot more picked now then many other gtld registries.For example, i like triple numbers on .nyc because it has meaning. Up to 500 every number has a building that it belongs to in Manhattan (and unless you live in new york, people unlikely to know that). Across all streets and avenues, hence its an actually has a lot of use. On .gifts i dont like it, since 24/7 …. gifts are not an emergency unless its Christmas, and even then you competing vs everyone else. New York England .com is available, get that if you really want to do flights, but NewYork.London is way too specific for gtld.

Long story short, get great domains on gtlds, on .coms you cant do it without paying through the roof. But on gtlds the field is open, dont waste it on mediocre names.

yeah thats true royal I registered couple of domains because registration cost is cheaper than other extensions. As you know I got only 3 domains i.e trade,spa & virtual and happy with them no more okinawa domains

I went straight for dot directory domains for whatever reason; well actually the reason being that directories will always serve a meaningful purpose and although there are plenty around, they aren’t always easy to find. I think this is where the dot directly GTLD comes into play, depending on the subject. It’s an easy place to look first…here’s what I grabbed from the getgo:
Opinions and criticisms are greatly appreciated:

bye bye live.rodeo :__(
but no issue, mistakes happens everywhere (the options A&B are fair) and hexonet is one of the best reg I know

Dear “my name”

This important notice is to inform you, that some of your domain name registrations in the past two months from the registry operator Mind and Machines were mistakenly priced as “Standard” domain registrations by us, when in fact they should have been marked as “Premium Domains”, and sold at premium price levels. This means that Premium Domains were sold at regular prices instead of the intended premium price for the respective domain(s).

The good news is that all unmarked Premium Domains sold at regular prices through HEXONET will be honored and remain active for one year. However, please be advised that next year, these Premium Domains will be renewed at their intended premium price, which have been listed below for your convenience. As a registrant of a mistakenly unmarked Premium Domain, Minds and Machines has graciously provided us/you with some customer-friendly options in preparation of next year’s premium price renewal:

Option A – Refund for Your Unmarked Premium Domain Name

We understand that some of you may not have registered a Premium Domain if you had known the Premium Registration/Renewal price before hand. If this is the case, you can DELETE the domain and receive a full refund of the standard domain price you paid. Simply delete the domain in the Control Panel and then email support@hexonet.net before November 27, 2014. Please provide us with the deleted domains and your Account ID. All refunds will be processed on November 28, 2014.

Option B – Keeping Your Unmarked Premium Domain Name

No further action is required. PLEASE NOTE that the Premium Domain(s) listed below will RENEW at premium pricing in the following year. Please also ensure the Renewal Mode for your domain(s) are properly set for next year’s renewal (Auto-Renew or Auto-Expire)

Domain Name
live.rodeo
Premium Renewal Price
$ 2800 USD

Thank you for your understanding and should you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Additionally, HEXONET would like extend our gratitude to the registry, Minds and Machines, who immediately expressed their willingness to work with us on finding customer-friendly solutions for those affected.

I don’t think it was just Hexonet affected because, for example the domain “aqua.surf” I pre-registered with both Hexonet and Enom but it just happens that Hexonet beat Enom during the General Availability start phrase rush.

Hexonet’s email says the price for “aqua.surf” should really be $ 1100 USD instead of the $25 (or so) price that I paid.

I don’t have all the facts, just speculating based on my own experience and a sample size of 2 registrars.

I would love to keep renewing the domains for the non-premium price, but I don’t know the legal right I may or may not have to that scenario. And the moral right for me is to forgive a mistake and not try to take advantage of the situation. I am more interested in long-term mutually beneficial relationship with key players in the domain industry than a short-term gain on a few domains.

Wow, thats a scam. Aside from it costing 2800 to renew?!?!?! wtf, live.rodeo really, it maybe worth reg price but nothing in thousands.

I really dont like how Mind and Machines do business, and i spoke to a guy who dealt with their CEO and he really thought not much of him. How M+M handling London is good example of how the company should be avoided and looking to take free market out of domains and make the most money for themselves. They leave nothing on a table.

Wow. We should all brace ourselves for the upcoming markups so our friends can squeeze every lemonade out of the lemons. Any rights here being violated? What stops them from sending similar emails saying “we sold you a domain that we did not intend to sell”???

I learnt that ethical businesses will not up-sale to attempt to pull money out of clients at the pretext of low-charge in the past but rather swallow it and move on. For now, I don’t have bags full of money to throw away so I will be excusing myself from purchasing any minds+machine products due to fear of recall or take backs. I want to feel a sense of respect for my property otherwise I would be living in a communist country.

OK, what these guys are doing makes BRICKS AND MORTARS look like a gold mine right now.

This was the whole purpose of the internet ease, and accessibility. These guys were begging to be let into the GTLD space so they could offer people options that the .com space had exhausted. Now they turn around and shit on everything they said.

The other GTLD operators should shame, and exile these people, and now they want to see the 2L’s released. They seem to have a long list of WANTS, no GIVES.

I have been saying from day 1, the agreements have very little documentation in regards to price increases, and allowable raises in pricing. Well you are seeing every loop hole utilized while ICANN is busy finding the next 5 star hotel to book, these guys are getting squeezed, and the people that took the money to care, clearly don’t.

Mind N Machines have been very shaky from the start from their assumptions, to their attitudes, I don’t know why anyone would support them, or their extensions.

As a community we need to be more lateral in dealing with such rodents within our industry.