Obama Gets It Exactly Right On What The Debt Ceiling Fight Is All Abouthttp://www.businessinsider.com/obamas-deadbeat-nation-line-2013-1/comments
en-usWed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500Fri, 09 Dec 2016 11:27:55 -0500Joe Weisenthalhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f47d42eab8ea7606000007badbobMon, 14 Jan 2013 16:48:50 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f47d42eab8ea7606000007
Now, now. let's not be like that.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f4646b69bedd8575000015patriot704Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:02:51 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f4646b69bedd8575000015
Oh so he says it's about politics. And here I thought it was about debt. And why we have too much of it. Maybe we should ask the people who manufacture and sell us this thing called "debt" for a living. I believe they're called bankers. Oh, look! They control the government, their biggest customer of all! I'm so happy.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f45e596bb3f7680c000001Bob123Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:36:57 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f45e596bb3f7680c000001
LMAO.
We are a deadbeat nation. But we refuse to admit it.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f45ca3eab8ea993b00000aJust ThinkingMon, 14 Jan 2013 14:29:39 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f45ca3eab8ea993b00000a
Sorry, God has never expressed an opinion on debt reduction or for that matter on the proprierty of the Left or the Right in American politics, I think the diety is having a lot of fun observing the confusion.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f45b376bb3f7f77d00000fJust ThinkingMon, 14 Jan 2013 14:23:35 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f45b376bb3f7f77d00000f
Joe, Stop with the White House kool-aid. The current Democratic Senate leadership voted against the debt ceiling increase when Bush (remember him) was in office. Now Obama refuses to indicate the fiscal cuts which he will make to gain a increase in the debt ceiling. Sorry, it has nothing to do with "guns to the head" its all about reducing spending going forward. So sit on your left wing pulpit and mouth the meaningless DNC talking points the fact is that when you draw up a deficit reduction plan you target future spending. The cunard that Obama uses is that he will look at a plan in the future is dependent on his mood at the time as he would then have veto power over the plan. It makes perfectly good sense when negotiating with someone you don't trust to reduce the elements to writing and in this case the Speaker has ample cause for concern.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f4543eeab8ea6f2600001bMike MatheaMon, 14 Jan 2013 13:53:50 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f4543eeab8ea6f2600001b
Time for a reality check. The President and his chief negotiator Jack Lew specifically opposed closing loopholes because they wanted to keep the Loopholes for their Wall Street pals. The old people on fixed income received a pay increase January 1 while the poor and middle class received a 2 percent point increase in their payroll taxes and saw an increase in their health care costs due to the Obama Insurance Plan.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f45421ecad04e30a00000fI can't go for thatMon, 14 Jan 2013 13:53:21 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f45421ecad04e30a00000f
^^ That is not a non sequitur for it is not an argument within the confines of logic. You too, my fellow, aren't quite right.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f4521169bedd364d000001sportsradio50Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:44:33 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f4521169bedd364d000001
Couldn't agree more Joe. Thank you for standing up for the Left and what's right. Put these right wing God worshipers in their place. Love ithttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f44dc569bedd5e3e000015patrick kMon, 14 Jan 2013 13:26:13 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f44dc569bedd5e3e000015
I love the excuse making. Go back and read the statements Obama and crew made when they voted against the debt ceiling when there was a Repub president. He counts on the knee pad crew not paying attention. You are doing a good job as a fluffer.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f44d996bb3f7286a00000esduraybitoMon, 14 Jan 2013 13:25:29 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f44d996bb3f7286a00000e
News to you. Higher taxes for the rich are a foregone conclusion. Let's take all the rich folks money and buy Granny another six months. Maybe you should try to understand the math, skippy. WE ARE BROKE.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f44d17eab8ea1219000012john1066Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:23:19 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f44d17eab8ea1219000012
Because they knew it would still pass. Welcome to politics. It's not pretty.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f44cc969bedd003900000ejust.a.guyMon, 14 Jan 2013 13:22:01 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f44cc969bedd003900000e
If you're going to be pedantic, the phrase you are looking for is "mixed metaphor", not "non sequitur"
Non sequitur means literally "it does not [logically] follow". Like Senator Barack Obama voting against a debt ceiling increase as 'unpatriotic' then attempting to railroad Congress into doing the same thing just a few years later. Now THAT is a non sequitur.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f44ba8eab8eac21300000bjohn1066Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:17:12 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f44ba8eab8eac21300000b
And then lets continue to give the Ultra rich huge tax breaks. They are so great. More tax breaks for them and more old people in the street eating cat food.
Granny sorry but into the street with you. The ultra rich are done with you so to the streets and please quickly die there.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f448b76bb3f76261000005Ted SMon, 14 Jan 2013 13:04:39 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f448b76bb3f76261000005
There is a huge difference between making a political statement on a bill you know will pass without your vote and using black mail as a alternative to compromise and doing your job.
House leader sets the schedule. Have you seen it and compared it to their tax payer provided pay and benefits?
The leadership that is missing, is in the House.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f4470c6bb3f7b65a00000fGreat StuffMon, 14 Jan 2013 12:57:32 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f4470c6bb3f7b65a00000f
That is a perfect analogy....
but unfortunately.... Most republicans think they have the ability to say the food was horrible and walk out without paying. (after they ate the ENTIRE meal)http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f445e6eab8eae008000011tuolieMon, 14 Jan 2013 12:52:38 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f445e6eab8eae008000011
Barack Obama as a senator said raising the debt limit was unpatriotic.
He is exactly right. Unfortunately he is now arguing with himself.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f445d5eab8ea4906000012GOP - America's TalibanMon, 14 Jan 2013 12:52:21 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f445d5eab8ea4906000012
The GOP is dying right before our eyes. This is what happens when you pander to the worst in order to secure votes. The GOP will likely never a presidential election for till 2020 at best, and that may be a long shot shot considering how many red states will likely become blue states by that time including Texas.
I love it.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f44548eab8ea2e0600000fadegiulioMon, 14 Jan 2013 12:50:00 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f44548eab8ea2e0600000f
Pay our dues by not paying our bills! Brilliant!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f4452169beddb92c000006adegiulioMon, 14 Jan 2013 12:49:21 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f4452169beddb92c000006
It's called politics bro...Same reason Mitch McConnell made history last month when he filibustered his own proposal.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f44497eab8ea1904000029AnalogyMon, 14 Jan 2013 12:47:03 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f44497eab8ea1904000029
A husband and his wife go to dinner. The food was great, they had a nice evening and the waiter shows them the cheque. Obviously, because they're married, the bill is shared. When the husband is about to pay the bill, his wife suddenly objects, even though she ate the food. She says: "This is not a good idea at all, we've got a spending problem!". The husband, to a certain extent, agrees, but he counters: "Maybe so, but we should have thought about that before we went to dinner. Lets pay the restaurant, go home and discuss our financial position as proper adults". Meanwhile, the restaurant owner threatens to call the police...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f4446369bedd6c24000019bdbrMon, 14 Jan 2013 12:46:11 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f4446369bedd6c24000019
"we would see some obligations (that are budgeted) go unpaid"
They don't actually have a budget, do they? That is a big part of the problem. The money has been APPROPRIATED, i.e. committed. By whom? The very same House that now doesn't want to make the payments they appropriated.
Many commenters here don't seem to understand the difference between signing a contract and paying the bills. When they say we need to "spend" less, do they really mean we need to *appropriate* less, or do they actually mean we should be deadbeats and not pay what the House has committed? Obama DID say he's willing to cut future appropriations, i.e. reduce the amount we commit to spend.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f444286bb3f7d958000017patrick kMon, 14 Jan 2013 12:45:12 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f444286bb3f7d958000017
Really? Obama hopes common sense prevails? Riddle me this then--why did Obama and all the other asshats in the Dem party vote against the debt ceiling when Bush was president?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f442daecad041d6b000002Lucius ModernusMon, 14 Jan 2013 12:39:38 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f442daecad041d6b000002
excellent use of obsequious (<a href="http://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/obsequious" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >http://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/obsequious</a>)
non sequitur: mixed phrases at the end, no? either "get in the ballgame" or "get with the times"http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f44207ecad04966600000bJack ForstMon, 14 Jan 2013 12:36:07 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f44207ecad04966600000b
Rah Rah Rah BI, did you turn up the volume in the office on this one? Also, I think you forgot 'brilliant' and 'everybody is freaking out' titles in this article. But KUDOS on actually writing original content, it's nice for a change!
BI, for 20 yr olds, by 20yr olds (both unpaid).http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f441ebecad04d968000005Lucius ModernusMon, 14 Jan 2013 12:35:39 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f441ebecad04d968000005
damn it. "its"http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f441bf69bedd7721000012Lucius ModernusMon, 14 Jan 2013 12:34:55 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f441bf69bedd7721000012
legally deadbeat would at least catch it up to it's current morally deadbeat status...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f44187ecad047966000022BiasedJoeMon, 14 Jan 2013 12:33:59 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f44187ecad047966000022
Joe when are you going to write about the out of control spending or when are you going to write about Obama being a hypocrite? If Bush or rather any Republican was in office during 06, you would be screaming not to raise the ceiling.
This isn't about any party, it is about getting our country on the right track...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f43f8c6bb3f7954d000010quadsMon, 14 Jan 2013 12:25:32 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f43f8c6bb3f7954d000010
"deadbeat nation" ???? Are you out of your mind?
How about a government that has lost control of reality, spending and fiscal responsibility?
The Piper has come, it's time to pay our dues.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f43f12ecad04576200000fGringo ChavezMon, 14 Jan 2013 12:23:30 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f43f12ecad04576200000f
Obama hopes common sense prevails.
Sadly. Congress does not practice common sense so we will default.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f43e5f6bb3f78e4d000005Alternate ViewMon, 14 Jan 2013 12:20:31 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f43e5f6bb3f78e4d000005
Joe and Henry, Your headline writer forgot to use the word "brilliant" when describing something about Obama. You may want to dock them some pay. And Joe, you wrote this yourself. Surely you could have used more superlative words to declare your obsequious service to the cause. Lets get with the ballgame boys.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f43e2eecad04bd5d000013sduraybitoMon, 14 Jan 2013 12:19:42 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50f43e2eecad04bd5d000013
So we should continue borrowing $4B or more per day and get our parabolic debt downgraded? You don't think there's a consequence to that? You don't seem to understand we're caught in a box. THE PARTY IS OVER one way or the other. Stuff's not gonna get paid.