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Thursday, January 10, 2013

Canada Moves To Legalize Polygamy As Lesbian New Zealand MP Denies Same Sex Marriage Law Will Lead to Same Result (Yeah Sure)

Here is (at the extract/ link below) leftist (Labour) New Zealand Member of parliament Louisa Wall, a lesbian, who is introducing a same sex marriage bill into the House of Representatives (a unicameral body so if it passes it becomes law upon the Governor-General signing it).Given the Labour/Green de facto coalition and the support of a number of supposedly conservative (but oh so socially liberal wets) from the governing National Party in a free vote the final legislation, which gives a sop to conservatives by allowing churches "freedom of conscience" will probably pass.New Zealand will the join the eleven other countries which allow same sex marriage along with the seven USA states.I have written previously that , as critics of the bill rightly poin tout, it is the ultimate in cynical ploys to plump for same sex marriage on the basis that it is discriminatory whilst on the other hand denying polygamists (and in ultimate fact-bestialist) the same right of "marriage" or multi-marriage or inter-species marriage.After all, if you are out to destroy the 2000 years of Christian tradition and in fact the norm since time immemorial then why not go the whole hog so to speak. It is utterly disingenuous for Wall and her ilk to deny what the Canadian government, quite reasonably and logically, is contemplating just to get her bill through.Society is very much at a crossroads and the 2016 election may very well be the last where a return to traditional values can be re-established by electing a moral conservative as president. This is why I am a Palin supporter and in this case it is not "the economy stupid" . The economy, like the poor you have with you always but once values are eroded they are done so permanently and, in my opinion, done so permanently for the worse.Here is the extract from the New Zealand Herald read the full report FROM THIS LINK

The MP behind a law change to legalise gay marriage has slammed the "dishonest" argument by opponents that her bill will pave the way to polygamous relationships.

Labour Party MP Louisa Wall said she was frustrated by the more extreme arguments against her bill, which had prompted her to release research showing that no country had legalised polygamous relationships after legalising gay marriage.

Ms Wall said the argument that allowing same-sex marriage would be a stepping stone to multiple partners was undermining an otherwise civilised and principled debate.

"Everyone has built an opposition based on a belief or a value ... but for some to purposefully mislead not only the public, but to also scaremonger, is fundamentally dishonest," she said.

The concern about creating a "slippery slope" to polygamy was raised at the first reading of the bill by National MP for Wairarapa John Hayes, and has been echoed by submitters to the select committee considering the legislation, in particular the lobby group Family First.

Family First founder Bob McCoskrie said he believed legalising polygamy was "on the long-term agenda".

"If you say that any adults who love each other should not be discriminated against then why limit it to sexuality, why not numbers?"

Ms Wall provided research to the Herald which showed that all of the 11 countries that have legalised gay marriage have outlawed polygamy.

None of the 50 countries that recognised polygamy under civil law formally recognised same-sex relationships.

Ms Wall said that in most cases, polygamy was legal in countries that repressed women, not socially progressive countries like New Zealand.

"You have countries where you can be whipped, fined, flogged, sent to jail for the rest of your life [for being in a gay relationship] so to say that marriage equality is a stepping stone to polygamy completely misrepresents the truth globally."

Asked to respond to Ms Wall's research, Mr McCoskrie said he acknowledged that no countries had legalised same-sex marriage then polygamy, but he felt it was "just a matter of time".

He pointed to government reports in Canada - where gay marriage was legal - which recommended the decriminalisation of polygamy, partly to attract skilled immigrants from countries which allowed multiple partners.