Re: Worst genre of music?

after thinking about it some I probably should have voted gangster rap just because some of the rappers are smart enough to know that they are perpetuating negative black stereotypes to a largely white audience in order to make a buck. The modern black face way to go fuckers. Yeah, I'm looking at you 50.

Re: Worst genre of music?

I chose the post-grunge option...although I hate christian rock (isn't creed chistian rock?) just as much. The reason I chose post-grunge is because I have heard more of it compared to christian rock. The only christian rock I have heard is on those infomercials for christian rock compilations.

Re: Worst genre of music?

Originally Posted by thelastgreatman

Seriously. Grunge ended around 96, then nu-metal took over with Creed and Nickelback following shortly afterwards. They were a reaction to rap/rock, not an evolution of grunge. Creed has absolutely nothing in common with grunge. They'd be better classified as Clear Channel Rock.

Creed is the Pearl Jam sound watered down into mildly grunge-flavored Clear Channel arena rock ballads, with pseudo-spiritual lyrics and crucifixion posturing in videos and on-stage. Scott Stapp tries to sing exactly like Eddie Vedder, as well. Bands like Nickelback, Hinder, Daughtry, Default, Finger 11, etc just follow the Creed model for bucks, but without Jesus.

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Just because Scott Stapp did an Eddie Vedder impression doesn't make it post-grunge. It had nothing to do with grunge. Creed sounds more like Live than it does Pearl Jam, and Live isn't exactly grunge.

Also, why in the fuck wouldn't Creed be in Christian Rock? P.O.D. is nu-metal, to boot.

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I fucking hate bullshit sub-genre definitions. From wiki:
By 1993 some of the first post-grunge bands (notably Bush, Collective Soul, Everclear, Our Lady Peace and Live) had been signed to major labels and were beginning to garner mainstream attention.

This is horseshit. They were just other alternative rock in the case of Live and Bush. That other shit wasn't actually popular for another year or two at least.

Re: Worst genre of music?

Originally Posted by summerkid

after thinking about it some I probably should have voted gangster rap just because some of the rappers are smart enough to know that they are perpetuating negative black stereotypes to a largely white audience in order to make a buck. The modern black face way to go fuckers. Yeah, I'm looking at you 50.

I'm sorry--should they all pretend to be Will Smith regardless of whether or not that's an accurate reflection of their environment? Why don't we just frown on all violence in movies, too?

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Oh fuck yes. I fucking hate Christmas music with a passion. Seriously.

Originally Posted by bmack86

And it's been long established that Chris hates fun.

Originally Posted by Hatinisbad

I took my niece this year and it was her first Coachella. It was so fun to see it through her eyes. She thought it felt like a magical scene from Shreck. The one where all the fairy tale creatures meet for the first time in Shreck's swamp.

Re: Worst genre of music?

When it comes to Christmas music, I am the Grinch. Seriously. Until Mike Patton releases a Christimas album, I very much doubt I will like any Christmas music.

Originally Posted by bmack86

And it's been long established that Chris hates fun.

Originally Posted by Hatinisbad

I took my niece this year and it was her first Coachella. It was so fun to see it through her eyes. She thought it felt like a magical scene from Shreck. The one where all the fairy tale creatures meet for the first time in Shreck's swamp.

Re: Worst genre of music?

I voted EMO. The Gangster Rap one is kind of weird, cause the artists that you chose are more like commercial club rap. When i think of Gangster rap, I think of rap from the 90's. Nu-Metal is waaaaay better than Emo, or pop country. God, I really hate almost all these groups.. Except for the Post-Punk Genre.

LOL.. She Wants Revenge and Interpol sound almost IDENTICAL. I don't get how you can like one and not the other.

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Originally Posted by instinct

I voted EMO. The Gangster Rap one is kind of weird, cause the artists that you chose are more like commercial club rap. When i think of Gangster rap, I think of rap from the 90's. Nu-Metal is waaaaay better than Emo, or pop country. God, I really hate almost all these groups.. Except for the Post-Punk Genre.

LOL.. She Wants Revenge and Interpol sound almost IDENTICAL. I don't get how you can like one and not the other.

Interpol>>She wants revenge

you think they are "almost identical" just because of the low voices thats all

Re: Worst genre of music?

Originally Posted by Sonicifyouwantit

dont think that has anything to do with grunge as much as it does to hardcore.

Yeah, I remember my scene friends trying to tell me how Deftones were hardcore or whatever, and I don't buy that shit at all. They were what post-grunge should mean--that which followed and grew out of grunge. Sorry, I don't see the connection between Deftones and earlier hardcore acts the way it seems blatantly obvious that they grew up on grunge and then got a little older and started developing a form of music that took its aesthetics but upped the energy--a more alternative alternative to the alt-rock period of the early 90s. The guitar work was just speedier grunge licks, not an update of hardcore from what I ever heard.

Originally Posted by msklvr

I voted for other because there is something good that came out of each genre at one time or another.

And no one say anything bad about the Deftones. Chino is the man.

Agreed. At least until White Pony he was.

Originally Posted by superfiction

the deftones are solid why are we hating on them

I don't think anyone was. I just misunderstood this "post-grunge" thing. Seriously, how are Bush and Live "post-grunge?" They're listed examples in the wiki for it. They both came out like a year or two tops after the grunge explosion, grunge wasn't even over yet, so how can they be post-grunge? They were just alternative. Post-grunge is bullshit.

Originally Posted by clumsy342

I see what you're saying. But.. it really seems like you'll go to any length to disagree with something. hahha.. seriously, comparing it to violence in movies?

The original arguement was about perpetuating stereotypes.
And maybe rap is only a part of it, but you cant deny..
well... shit like this:

How is it remotely different from violence in movies? Why is the Sopranos any better than 50 Cent, exactly? I'm not just disagreeing for the fuck of it, but I think it's kinda silly for you to call gangsta rap out (about 15 years too late I might add) as socially irresponsible. Know what's actually socially irresponsible? Gangs. Do you think rap inspired gangs? No. The gangs came first. They permeated the world that (some) of these rappers grew up in. And I can tell you for a fact that in Compton, Inglewood, NY, Camden, Newark... it's not just hype. They started making music about it because art has always been the vehicle by which the disenfranchised make their voices heard. I'm sure you'd prefer that they all responded by making socially responsible Will Smith public service announcement raps, but frankly that's just neither good lyric material nor would it be reflective of the inner-city black culture's true desires. Every once in a while they'd come out with something that reflected on the evil of what they were doing... but at the end of the day it's still gangs that get respect, that act as a militia to represent patriotism for their neighborhoods, that have the power and money and women and that are therefore more desirable to the market rappers are targeting.

You should try thinking a little deeper and consider the fact that until NWA and The Chronic started showing up in white teenagers' stereos you didn't hear too much about just how serious street gang violence was/is, did you? Perhaps by frightening the middle-class by promoting the gang lifestyle they did a lot more to draw useful attention to the problem than any positive message music could have.

Originally Posted by instinct

I voted EMO. The Gangster Rap one is kind of weird, cause the artists that you chose are more like commercial club rap. When i think of Gangster rap, I think of rap from the 90's. Nu-Metal is waaaaay better than Emo, or pop country. God, I really hate almost all these groups.. Except for the Post-Punk Genre.

LOL.. She Wants Revenge and Interpol sound almost IDENTICAL. I don't get how you can like one and not the other.

She Wants Revenge definitely tries to sound like Interpol as much as possible. But I can tell SWR just by the drum parts alone. They use a drum machine and the dumb cunts don't know how to program it.