I don't have a link for this, but I know that OSU people ("insiders," recruiting watchers, and the like) think that Penn St., particularly Larry Johnson, Sr., tell kids that OSU and Michigan don't care about graduating black athletes.

While at PSU I had several friends that attended HS in that town. Not one of them had anything good to say about the Johnsons. Both of his kids were/are no-class losers and most times that is learned or tolerated at home.

I'd put my money on LJ Sr being the one RR was talking about although MSU wouldn't be a stretch either.

+1 for "Raback it", and I agree I wouldn't be shocked at all if Hope neg recruited the shit out of us. We don't recruit against them that often, but there is no doubt they are still pissed about RR's snake oil.

"what the hell is wrong with u?" "me? Nothing! you on the other hand, have a bullet inside of you!"

RR had a chance to clear names at the end and he cleared OSU. Actually said some nice things about Tressel. It would have been a perfect opportunity to clear the other rival, MSU, as well. He didn't. If you go outside the B10, Corwin Brown neg recruited UM at Notre Dame all the time.

In the end does it really matter who it is? They obviously did not do better in the recruiting trail. Unless of course it is in fact PSU. I mean come on Danturdio did get Gholston, great pick up for him, but he was not able to neg recruit DG from M. Lets look at this logically if you have to neg recruit then that tells me E. Lansing has nothing to offer their recruits other than jail time.

RRod closed out saying it wasn't OSU. We don't really compete with most of the Big 10 for recruits. So who did we potentially lose recruits to? OSU, PSU...and MSU. PSU...I think that they likely won the battles of defensive players fair and square, as they have been LB univ for years. OSU was eliminated. You work out the math.

Lots of hatred brewing down there for Michigan with the suspension/handshake and now Roundtree has become legit, one of our main threats...Rich Rod alluded to the whole stealing recruits thing too in the presser saying if a guy is committed why is he still looking... so it was definitely on his mind.

My money is on Dantonio. The other schools don't really need to run M down. Listen to the comments from Spartan players, Spartan recruits, and high school coaches who feed MSU. It's all very acrimonious.

In that survey of the top-10 recruits from the state, Hankins was asked if OSU bashed Michigan in his visit. I don't have the link, but he said that they didn't say anything negative, but they did show him the clock that has the last time we beat them. All in all, that is pretty mild.

Austin White? Brothers go/went to MSU, they think he's a lock, but he starts showing interest in UM and Dantonio opens his mouth about this and that which turns White off. I think Michigan also went head-to-head with MSU for Rodgers, Black, and possibly some others. I'd put money on MSU with d-bag Hope a close second.

Probably MSU, since it makes the most sense in terms of common recruits. PSU and UM probably recruited a couple of similar players, but the big fish tend to stay away from each other except for big-time recruits (at which point everyone is negging the other guy a bit). MSU, though, would undoubtedly be making a run at most of UM's in-state recruits, so the pressure to knock down UM is far greater.