Anyone who saw Glenn Beck’s performance at the NRA convention last week will struggle to describe it in words. On the one hand, the former Fox-contributor was ridiculous, over-emotive, faux-Shakespearean and tended to ramble on from one point to the next rather than focus on the issue he was invited to speak about. On the other hand, he was eminently convincing in his case that firearms and the right of the common man to own them was something above the merely political. It involved, he suggested, one of the naked, pre-political liberties of mankind – the right to defend one’s family, and given that this right precedes politics, he argued, nobody should dare threaten it but that they rightly be called a tyrant.

And with this, I wholeheartedly agree. Beck, however, is a difficult man to agree with. He can embarrass an argument as well as he can express one. And at the NRA convention, Beck provided a lot of unnecessary amateur dramatics. His voice occasionally trembled for decorum and then, just as easily (and artificially) rose with a preacher’s emphasis for applause and confirmation. It’s difficult to keep Beck on track at a live event, but look at his speech in transcript form, and you’ll find much more to engage with.

Beck didn’t mention it explicitly, but the language of ‘civil war’ ran implicitly through his entire speech. His rhetoric about being ready to ‘stand and fight’ hardly needs elaborating upon. Nor does his use of the iconography of soldiers and historic battles. The audience knew what he meant. They whooped and cheered on cue and off, intimating that they understood him, tone and undertone.

It is the undertones which concern me most.

A political tendency is developing in America which, unless some concerted effort is made to arrest it, will bring the prospect of a very damaging civil conflict into view. This tendency is based on a growing doubt that the elected Obama administration is the rightful government of the United States. There are Americans, many of them decent and rational to their bone-marrow, who do not believe that ‘America’ elected Barack Obama, either in 2008 or 2012. They believe that an alien coalition of Mexicans, Africans and Cubans elected him, after he bribed them with their money.

The fact that they’re not entirely wrong doesn’t help us here. Of course the Democrats have engineered immigration policy with the electoral college in mind. Nobody disputes this. But if this belief is followed through to its logical end, we may end up with a catastrophe.

America is not an ordinary country. It is the greatest nation in the Western World. American innovation created and secured the mechanics of democratic capitalism, which itself defeated both Communism and Fascism to ensure that mankind remained free, and that the democratic idea became a global standard. A modern history without America would have seen politics reduced to a question of allegiance between Berlin or Moscow. A choice (if it is one) from hell.

Given this indispensability, everyone the world over has a right to be concerned about America’s internal affairs. With Islamism lapping at European shores and autocratic Russian and Chinese states rising to ever greater economic might, the need for a stable, united, and confident America is increasing.

And yet it is at this point in history that America risks falling to pieces. One cannot now bet safely against a major civil implosion in certain American states. The most likely catalyst for the beginning of a Second American Civil War would (let’s not say ‘will’ just yet), probably be the next election. If the republicans fail to win in 2016, then that really is it for the party of Reagan. After this, people may start looking for primordial, pre-political solutions.

And in case you don’t know what that entails, I refer you back to Mr Beck’s speech.

Perhaps but then I’m still not one hundred percent sure what went on in Benghazi. It seems to be mainly Fox News promoting the story – never a good sign. There are other, more nefarious events people could draw attention to.
But anyhow it’s unlikely he’ll be impeached, and then, after the next election, who knows??

Of course it’s mainly Fox News covering it, the mainstream media have always covered up for Obama. What do you mean: “never a good sign”? Fox News is also the only major American TV channel covering and telling the truth about Muslim persecution of Christians in the world, and about Islam and Muslim terrorism in general.

Do you still really believe in the objectivity of the overwhelmingly leftist media?

It is very obvious what happened in Benghazi, and before and after it. You can find it in these articles:

Fox news can be good. It can also play fast and loose with the truth. Fox has come out with some ridiculous things in the past which damage rather than aid the anti-Islamist cause. They have people on there who say things like ‘Al-Qaeda is working with Iran’. They play to an audience they presume is dumb. Fox is also part of a corporation part owned by Saudi royals, so no, I don’t follow them closely.

There will be no civil war. Right now a democrat is in office so the conservatives scream like banshees about anything and everything in order to delegtimize him and make it harder for him to get things done and to drum up entheusiasm for the next election.

Then when a Republican is elected the librals will screech like banshees over anything and everything inorder to impede THEM from getting things done and drum up entheusiasm for the next election.

That’s just how it’s done here.

When Bush I was in power he was trying to get the Line Item Veto, allowing the president to veto parts of the budget. Republicans said it was a reasonable power for the executive branch to hold and the Democrats said it was too much power.

When Clinton was elected Democrats and Republicans switched their opinion on the Line Item Veto. The Rhetoric remained just as apocolyptical but the opposing sides had switched their stance on the issue overnight.

There’s no civil war coming. It’s just dramatics employed to drum up entheusiasm for elections.

We have a subtly different culture than yours and react to entheusiam in political talk differently. From everything I have seen of English media, public displays of entheusiasm/passion are more frowned upon and considered low class.

And let’s face it. Civil wars happen when there is no Free Speech and no legislative or legal recourse to settle differences of opinion or disparities of power. And we still have the absolute best free speech rights on the planet. Also we are free to assemble and form political parties. The places that have civil wars don’t have that right either.

The recently exposed harrasment of conservative groups by the IRS is nothing compared to how the British Government and media have treated the EDL – and nobody’s coddled the radical islamists more than Briton and France have. Civil war is more likely on your side of the Atlantic.

And some arguments could be made that it’s already started. I wouldn’t park my car out in the open in France during the summer and the Pakistani Grooming Gangs have harmed more lives than the 300 years of Viking raids did.

You’re correct that Britain (and certainly France) have an equally dire outlook in some areas. What makes America uniquely vulnerable is the shifting demographic balance. Sometime soon, a shift in numbers will occur that will disqualify the Republicans from ever gaining office again. Is White America ready for that? The only way they could win after 2016 is if they make the Republicans a party of open-borders (in order to gain the Hispanic vote). After that you’ll end up with a very divided country.
Don’t get me wrong though, I love America and believe (and hope) that one day you’ll come and rescue us from Islamisation as you did from Fascism

No, it is very simplistic to say that Republicans can only win again if they relax their policies on immigration. The opposite is more likely: as the Romney campaign showed, a GOP without truly conservative principles will lose. The same is happening in Britain with the Tories and UKIP:

I also agree with Truthiocity that a civil war is more likely to occur in Europe than in the USA, for reasons similar to the ones he explains.

As for our debate above – I could not reply earlier because I was too busy – your declared hero Pamela Geller said that she would like many more Fox News channels, and other channels even more to the right than Fox. So, if you agree with her, you should follow it more closely. Or maybe you agree with her less than you realize.

And on the other side of the spectrum, Fox News was the only major USA TV channel that Bin Laden and his advisers did not consider al-Qaida-friendly. They said about Fox “let her die in her anger”. So it must be doing something right:

Anyway, it is a bit disingenuous for you to say “Fox is also part of a corporation part owned by Saudi royals, so no, I don’t follow them closely”. What I said is that you have not followed closely the events regarding Benghazi, which have been massively covered in all US counterjihad internet outlets, big and small.

You did not need Fox to learn about them.

I did not say that Obama will be impeached, only that I hope so, but David, excuse me: how can you say that it will not happen or anyway form an opinion on something that you have not followed?

While our economic downturn, to say the least, is crippling our hold in the world, something drastic needs to happen. Civil war is the last thing anyone wants. But the voting system is not working. Obama won’t be impeached because he has everyone in his back pocket. That’s why the rumbles of civil war are sounding. It seems the only way to go. Any other options we have would take years to enact and we need change now.

Over two hundred years ago, American’s fought to overthrow a goverment that taxed them to the bone and impeded their natural human rights. That way of thinking has invaded our own goverment and cast aside the ideals of our forefathers.

If our forefather’s did not fight for the freedom that we take advantage of now, this great country would not be as it is. I agree that civil war would tear this country apart. Tear the world apart. What allies would support who?

How can we begin to heal this country of this illness? We are lost and need a strong leader who is guided by morals and humilty. We have been too long without one and that is why we are falling down a pit that can’t be possibly climbed. If we find that leader, hope cannot and will not be lost.

Secession Scenario
Government seems to be falling apart thru a perceived misappropriation of finances.
In the Nov 2014 Elections the people have voted to put the Republicans in control of both houses of Congress.
In the 2016 election the country elects a Republican to the white house. This new president and his Republican administration with the help of congress and the Senate start making cuts in government benefits, and by reducing government.
The unemployment is high after 8 years of Democratic rule.
The cuts are hurting people all over the country especially those who have become dependent on some form of government assistance.
Major riots explode all over the US due to government cut backs on government assistance.
The National Guard is called out in many major cities.
Talks of secession are all over the internet.
Democratic Liberal California feeling neglected and abandoned by the Federal government decides to secede from the Union.
Washington sends in Federal troops. A large battle ensues and the Federal troops are defeated and California retains its independence.
Conservative Republican Texas having spear headed a Republican takeover in Washington thru an election puts out the word for a voluntary army to take back California. Many in Texas heed the call.
Meanwhile Independent and sovereign California is joined by Nevada, Oregon and Washington State.
Hawaii follows suit by declaring itself independent and sovereign.
There are rumors all over the internet reporting a Russian build up in Siberia.
The rumors are implying Russia plans to take back Alaska.
Washington having its hands full asks for Canadian and British help in protecting Alaska.
Thousands of Canadian and British troops are sent into Alaska for the express purpose of defending Alaska from an implied invasion of Russia.
Texas troops along with Federal troops invade southern California capturing conservative San Diego they continue the march up the coast and enlisting volunteers. Texas attacks Los Angeles after a fierce battle LA is taken.
Next is San Francisco and another fierce battle San Francisco is taken. California is now firmly back in the hands of the United States. The Texas army continues its upward invasion taking over and securing Oregon then Washington.
Meanwhile in the Southern states there is a near racial war erupting.
Federal troops are sent in but cannot contain the riots.
In New York and surrounding states a voluntary army is being amassed to quell the riots and stop the rumor of a second civil war with the south.
This Liberal Democratic army invades the south taking over the south and quelling the race war as many will see it.
But the leader of this Northern Liberal Democratic army takes over the government and puts out an order to arrest all the conservative Republicans in the white house for war crimes and crimes against humanity.
The Conservative Republicans flee to Austin, Texas setting up government to take back the white house.
The Conservative Texas army is now at war with the Liberal Democrats who have taken over the Federal Government.
This war between the West and the East goes on for another two years with neither side gaining much ground.
Canada fearing an invasion of Russia enters the war on the Texas side asking for nuclear ability to defend Alaska.
This alliance puts the Liberal Democratic Army in great peril considering that it now must send troops up north to defend its borders from Canada.
The leaders of the Western States and the leaders of the Eastern Sates meet in Paris to negotiate a United Nation sponsored truce.
World pressure is being put on a truce or treaty because a fear that this conflict is leading to a world war.
In this truce or treaty it is decided that the continental United States would be split into two countries.
One would be called the United States of Texas and it would go from Texas to California and Washington to North Dakota.
The other would be called the United States of Atlantica and it would be from Minnesota to Maine and
Louisiana to Florida.
Alaska would be given to Canada and Hawaii and Puerto Rico would be given independence.
The United States of America is now no more.
End of story.

It’s certainly true that making people dependent on Government for their livelihoods is perilous. If it becomes a fifty-fifty split between dependents and tax-payers than there could certainly emerge a civil conflict. I hope it won’t come to that.

Interesting to know that others around the world are as aware and as concerned about our situation as we (Americans) are. Some are terribly oblivious, others intentionally ignorant, but many of us are very concerned about the future of our nation. If you want the truth straight from an “average American,” and I think I’d qualify, I’ll tell you that those among us who are smart and aware are preparing for the worst. We are not just wary of a second civil war…we are expecting one. Unless things change drastically, anyway, and none of us see that happening anytime soon.

The 800 pound gorilla in the room is again being ignored. The very “minor”, minorities you mention concerning Obama’s election could NEVER have pulled off his last 2 elections without the feminist-infused female voters. The Africans (12%), Mexicans i. e. Hispanics (22%) and Cubans (1%) are their TOTAL percentages of the American population, of which only half, or less, can vote. These numbers are de minimis and those groups cannot swing an election on their own. They do not have the numbers. The missing link is the huge feminist female vote. Joined with the others, THEY ALONE elected Obama. 70% of white , single women voted for Obama. These female voters elected him with huge numbers. “Search” on my home page for my post, “Vanity of Voting” for more details. The women are who Glen Beck and others should be after because if the lesbian-led, radical, second and third-wave feminist college and primary school academics (who abhors Christianity and the men who made America great because they stand for the tenets of Christianity which hates homosexual behavior because it leads to evil behavior, based on the warnings of condemnation in God’s Bible) are not stopped, a civil war is inevitable. And it will be Christian men against the lesbian, politically, and powerfully, placed influential feminist women (i.e. Lois Lerner, Sarah Hall Ingram, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Elena Kagan, Sonia Sotomayor Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein, Melissa Perry-Harris, Kathleen Sebelius, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Dr. Anthea Butler, Oprah Winfrey, Rachel Maddow’s of the country, who are out to destroy the USA, even if it is at their own expense. These are obsessed women. The civil war will NOT be, as most believe, between the blacks and the whites. If will be much more of an ideological war against American ideals, brought about by American’s radical females and their millions of brainwashed, college- educated, adherents. My entire blog is dedicated to bringing radical feminism’s evil agenda into the light of day. Good luck with your very interesting blog and thanks for following my blog.

Of course the Democrats have engineered immigration policy with the electoral college in mind

Yes, if you carry concentrations of one or two big cities in just 10 states you have enough electoral votes. These have overwhelming minority and immigrant populations and democrat so the Republican carries 40 states and Hillary wins anyway.