Jazzygirl205 wrote:Since Kobe passed MJ on the all time assists list where does that put him on your list, well for those who still have him outside of your top 10 or top 5? That's a pretty cool accomplishment since he's so selfish and all? Call me silly but I always thought the selfish argument was to deflect from him as a great scorer. While us Laker fans prefer this Kobe, others are saying "Yay no more scoring Kobe no more scoring titles" of course bean doesn't care. But other players are always begged to score and have these explosive scoring runs, and people enjoy it. Still mind boggling how people still get up in arms about comparing him to MJ opposed to other players. But Kobe is Kobe I rather Kobe be compared to Kobe since it's like 3 different versions of him lol. Only get one player like this in a lifetime, too bad I never saw him in person.

I don't think Kobe passing MJ on the all time assists lists means a ton as far as all time player standings go. Kobe's playing in his 17th season and has never missed significant time, MJ played 15 and one season only played 18 games and another only played 17. Their career average is very close though, 4.7 for Kobe, 5.3 for MJ, so both averaged 5 apg rounded out. That shows it's untrue overall that Kobe doesn't pass and is selfish and those that used to say MJ made the game a one on one sport an ruined it were also wrong IMO.

That's a pretty loaded argument, I personally don't see LeBron passing Magic or Kobe, and I'm not sure Kobe has passed Magic either. Look at Magics finals appearances and title count, unless LeBron can come close to that I don't think his yearly stats trump that, same with he and Kobe, he's gotta some catching up to do to even match Kobe.

LeBron isn't that far off from Kobe and imo it's pretty much a given he will pass him. He'll probably win 3-4 rings and win FMVP in all of them while continuing to win MVP awards and pile up ridiculous stats. And there's really no threat in the league other than Durant.

JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:LeBron isn't that far off from Kobe and imo it's pretty much a given he will pass him. He'll probably win 3-4 rings and win FMVP in all of them while continuing to win MVP awards and pile up ridiculous stats. And there's really no threat in the league other than Durant.

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JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:LeBron isn't that far off from Kobe and imo it's pretty much a given he will pass him. He'll probably win 3-4 rings and win FMVP in all of them while continuing to win MVP awards and pile up ridiculous stats. And there's really no threat in the league other than Durant.

I would also rather have Durant than LeBron but you take what you get. LeBron's issue for me is that he isn't exactly young. He is an extremely old 28 year old...assuming we would get him he would be on the wrong side of 30 with anormous mile age and considering how he depends on his athleticism and physical attributes...it makes me cringe.

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JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:LeBron isn't that far off from Kobe and imo it's pretty much a given he will pass him. He'll probably win 3-4 rings and win FMVP in all of them while continuing to win MVP awards and pile up ridiculous stats. And there's really no threat in the league other than Durant.

So Kobe can't pass or even equal Jordan in the media's/public's eyes even if he wins 7 titles, but LeBron can pass Kobe if he wins 3 or 4, ok. Kobe's had a better, longer carter, and still probably will when LeBron is done, I don't see him going 18 seasons. Give me prime Kobe over prime LeBron as well, if Kobe had a "superteam" around him in his prime he'd have a few more rings as well.

JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:LeBron isn't that far off from Kobe and imo it's pretty much a given he will pass him. He'll probably win 3-4 rings and win FMVP in all of them while continuing to win MVP awards and pile up ridiculous stats. And there's really no threat in the league other than Durant.

So Kobe can't pass or even equal Jordan in the media's/public's eyes even if he wins 7 titles, but LeBron can pass Kobe if he wins 3 or 4, ok. Kobe's had a better, longer carter, and still probably will when LeBron is done, I don't see him going 18 seasons. Give me prime Kobe over prime LeBron as well, if Kobe had a "superteam" around him in his prime he'd have a few more rings as well.

JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:LeBron isn't that far off from Kobe and imo it's pretty much a given he will pass him. He'll probably win 3-4 rings and win FMVP in all of them while continuing to win MVP awards and pile up ridiculous stats. And there's really no threat in the league other than Durant.

So Kobe can't pass or even equal Jordan in the media's/public's eyes even if he wins 7 titles, but LeBron can pass Kobe if he wins 3 or 4, ok. Kobe's had a better, longer carter, and still probably will when LeBron is done, I don't see him going 18 seasons. Give me prime Kobe over prime LeBron as well, if Kobe had a "superteam" around him in his prime he'd have a few more rings as well.

Kobe did have a superteam. If only he and Shaq got along........

We used Shaq for pretty much all he was worth (which was a lot).

He got one more chip motivated mostly by spite from being traded, then quickly reverted to his 2004 self after winning again. Love Diesel, but we were'nt going to get much more even if he and Kobe were budz.

JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:LeBron isn't that far off from Kobe and imo it's pretty much a given he will pass him. He'll probably win 3-4 rings and win FMVP in all of them while continuing to win MVP awards and pile up ridiculous stats. And there's really no threat in the league other than Durant.

So Kobe can't pass or even equal Jordan in the media's/public's eyes even if he wins 7 titles, but LeBron can pass Kobe if he wins 3 or 4, ok. Kobe's had a better, longer carter, and still probably will when LeBron is done, I don't see him going 18 seasons. Give me prime Kobe over prime LeBron as well, if Kobe had a "superteam" around him in his prime he'd have a few more rings as well.

Kobe did have a superteam. If only he and Shaq got along........

I'm taking about his absolute prime, 04/05 - 09/10, 3 wasted years playing with scrubs, then 3 with a good team and we see the difference. It happens though, teams can't w loaded every single season, I don't blame the Lakers at all. When he did have a superteam, or even one other star with him and good role players we see the results, championships, finals appearances, or at least being a contender. Kobe won 2 titles with less than LeBron won his one with IMO.