The Associated Press reports that Arnold Schwarzenegger wished that he could go back in time in order to end fossil fuels… To get society to rely on a cleaner alternative instead.

At least, that’s the impression that he wanted to give. Arnold Schwarzenegger, the guy that apologized for saying “girly men”, gave a speech at the U.N. climate conference. In there, he spoke against natural gas, coal, and gasoline. He also called President Trump “crazy”.

From the Associated Press:

“If we would’ve never started in that direction and used other technology, we’d be much better off,” the actor and former California governor said Monday at the start of a U.N. climate conference in Poland.

Mr. Schwarzenegger had the resources to make “green friendly” conversions in order to walk the walk with this philosophy.

Schwarzenegger later told The Associated Press he has converted his signature Humvee trucks to run on hydrogen, electricity and biofuel and only allows himself to eat meat three days a week.

He told his audience that he wished that he could go back in time and end fossil fuels, and get us to use other technologies. Lets see here…

The fossil fuels that he dismisses happen to be the fuels that allow populations to prosper, and to stay warm in areas that get cold. Even if he got his wish…He went back in time and successfully stopped the use of fossil fuels, where would we be today?

It requires interest, within the free market, to get these clean fuel initiatives in action. The consumers have to provide incentive for their actions with the pocketbook. If consumers are putting most of their money in fossil fuels, that is where the free market is going to concentrate most on.

If the anti-fossil fuels crowd succeeded in limiting the use of fossil fuels, it’d be harder for populations to lift themselves up from poverty and to generate wealth. For those who have to deal with winter, there is a question of heating.

Ironically, many would be “terminated” in this scenario.

Then, we have the question of how seriously he would’ve been taken the further back in time he traveled. It seems that the mainstream media loves to get the opinions of actors, actresses, singers, etc., on geo-strategic, geopolitical, and geo-economic issues.

I didn’t know Maria dumped him, that’s how little I keep up with Hollywood. But, she’s a Kennedy clan member, she should realize that powerful (those that hold positions of power, anyway) men can’t or won’t keep it in their pants. Comes with the territory and she should have realized straightaway.

Isn’t that just too, too special? Go ahead, Arnold. Go, and stay, as green as you wanna be. Just quit pretending that the rest of us must do as you say just because you say it.

And, you might want to see just how much energy is wasted making all your “green” stuff. Silly things like shipping batteries across the Pacific multiple times so you can piously claim to be saving energy that I don’t use in such silliness. And, it doesn’t cost Mother Earth nearly as much for me to pump natural gas from the well behind my house to fuel my stuff as it does for the items you get from all over the world to you so you can brag about how much you are doing for the planet.

It’s all about choices. Some are good, some not so good. Yours are probably no better than mine. In reality, you and your friends are likely costing civilization much more than am I and my friends.

His point isn’t totally unreasonable. Yes, things like coal are cheaper in part because of investments in coal infrastructure and coal-related technology has made them so. If he had his fictional time-machine, it’s possible that similar investments in cleaner energy types -ignore we didn’t have the tech back then- would’ve resulted in the same net energy, for equal or lower immediate cost, and less long-term cost.

Asbestos, for example, is (was?) cheaply manufactured, but now it’s often replaced. Knowing what we know now, would it still be cheaper, factoring in the health costs, to have built buildings back then with asbestos, then tear it out and replace it, or to have done it with ‘cleaner’ tech the first time?

I don’t have an answer for that, and it might not be a one-size-fits-all type thing anyway. But it’s not outlandish to consider, in a hypothetical way.

His point is utterly absurd. It’s only unreasonable if one ignores the fact that the science, engineering, industry, hell the whole technology didn’t and couldn’t exist during or before the industrial revolution. So Ahnold thinks he could go back in time and viola, build an entire “green” industry and infrastructure out of nothing that we can’t even do today with our advanced science and technology. But it could be possible! Let’s suspend our disbelief and follow that yellow brick road to a bright and shining future. Just ignore the guy behind the curtain.

A thought just occurred to me. We should put all that “green” tech into a file called “the Emerald City.” It’s all just a bright shining lie that’s being manipulated by a fraud hiding behind a curtain. The old guy means well. But he’s built a huge house of cards. And when it all comes tumbling down, the old guy will jump in his balloon called Solyndra and float away, leaving others to pick up the pieces and clean up the mess.

Solyndra is bankrupt. Only the pieces of its half-billion dollar banktrupcy are left behind. All that tax money invested by the government (under whatWAShisname?) gone right down the drain into the sewers.

Yep. That was why I referenced Solyndra. That great green jewel collapsed, but those running it floated away with millions in their pockets from that debacle, while we the taxpayers were left to shoulder the burden and clean up the mess.

It is not physically possible to run an industrial civilization on wind and solar alone. Base load that runs 24hrs a day is required. Hydro can do much, but not on flat land. Geotherm can be used, but again, lacking on flat land.

The folks who advocate this stuff always seem to leave out the very high mortality rate of low energy agrarian societies. One might go so far as to say some of them see that as a feature, not a bug

There are billions of people living in energy-poor poverty. Making the climb out of poverty even more expensive seems …. Wrong.

Maybe, maybe not. It is definitely ignorant, though. And I do not mean that in a pejorative way.

“-ignore we didn’t have the tech back then”

I am assuming you mean the “green” tech. There is a reason we didn’t. You can’t make solar panels or build sufficiently efficient windmills or generate and transmit electricity without metal. You can’t fabricate metal without an efficient and controllable source of heat and power to refine and shape it.

“I don’t have an answer for that”

A little time and effort spent studying technology, science, and the history thereof would remedy that. Those of us who have sometimes consider it in a hypothetical way, especially those of us who read science fiction, and the answer is no, we could not have skipped using fossil fuels and gone directly to “green” tech.

What, now you are trying to get a job with Arnold, forget it as he is still pissed because he does not qualify for president. Oh hey gang HEEEEEEE’S back. Oh still broadcasting from mommy’s cellar when she lets you out of the closet.

Worked for Bernie. When Bernie Big Bucks didn’t get the nomination, Lars got all butthurt and voted for that crazy woman, Jill Stein. Or so he wrote here when he was Commissar. I have no doubt whatsoever that he would have liked to have voted for that other crazy woman, Octagon-Cortez/Whatever, in the midterms. Does it matter? You’re damn right it does. The Democratic Socialists are nothing but commie bastards who want your money to redistribute and your guns to keep you at bay.

This has little to do with Trump. Schwarzenegger was never terribly popular with those on the right. He, like McCain, was always a very centrist if not liberal Republican whose views frequently clashed with the main wing of the party.

Go back to 2015 and ask this group what they think of Arnold and you’ll probably get the same responses you are today.

Arnold Schwarzenegger won following the recall of disastrous democrat Gray Davis, beating a field of challengers that included Gary Coleman and pr0n star Marey Carey. With options like that, many Californians check the box for Ahnold on the basis of “Ah, what the hell.”

After the mess that Davis left behind, all Arnie had to do to look like a saint in comparison was not make it any worse.

Just stop. Stop looking down your self-righteous nose and climb off your moral high horse.

First, you can’t know that “current service members overwhelmingly believe in climate change.” To the best of my knowledge, there has never been a poll taken that asked that question.

Second, Of course the DoD and Pentagon look at climate change. They would be foolish not to. The military looks at anything and everything that can affect operations. They even have plans for a “viral zombie outbreak!” So I guess the military believes George Romero’s movies were lesson plans and not horror fiction.

Third, I’ve never seen anyone here deny climate change. They are all smart enough, even the dim bulbs such as myself, to understand that climate change does exist and has always existed as a part of the natural cycle of the planet. The “denier” part comes in on the human factor. Do humans have a planet-wide impact, and if so how much is that impact, and what can we reasonably due to counter it? And don’t give me the “settled science” nonsense. Science and scientific theories change all the time as new discoveries are made. No true scientist would ever say that anything is “settled science.” We’ve all seen the reports of tampering that have come out. Don’t be a denier! You know it’s happened. It isn’t a “vast right-wing conspiracy.” It also doesn’t help that anyone labeled a “denier” faces demonization and career loss. That’s how the climate crowd builds consensus, threaten the careers of scientists who have valid questions and counters. The subject has become so polarized and politicized that it’s hard to know what the truth is.

I remember back in the ’60s and ’70s it was “global cooling,” with certain groups claiming that we would all be under the ice by the turn of the century due to a runaway ice age. When that didn’t pan out it became global warming. Now it’s changed to the catch-all “climate change.” So now, any shift in weather patterns or temperatures can be blamed on “climate change,” with the “sky is falling” Chicken Little crowd screaming for draconian legislation to deal with it.

It doesn’t help that you have politicians such as Al Gore who’s only interest seems to be in lining his pockets with “carbon credits” – while living in mansions that have the carbon footprint of most small towns – and Alexandria Occasional-Cortex who wants to remake our nation into a Socialist utopian pipedream. Let the science speak for itself without political interference. And then there are the smug, self-important and self-righteous pricks, such as yourself, who come here to talk down to everyone who doesn’t follow the party line. Sorry, Comrade Cthulhu, we just aren’t built that way.

*YAWN*, I remember being told that at least fifty percent of all people would be dead by the year 2000 due to global warming from deforestation, acid rain and the hole in the Ozone Layer. That was being said in the late eighties and we’re doing fine right now in the USA. Anyone screeching about the pollution in China and India or is that waaaaycist? I’ll be enjoying a fire in my wood burning fireplace tonight and I’ll be grilling later this week, gonna set that carbon free! No matter what libtards try to do, WE SHALL OVERCOME!!!

Never has a ball player or actor influenced me to buy anything or affect how I thought. Well, Hanoi Jane’s actions influenced me to hate that bitch and Donald Sutherland. Sorry, I regress.

Don’t these idiots realize that it was the use of “fossil fuels” that advanced humankind’s technology enough to build so called “green energy?” How far back in time you gonna go Arrrrnuld? See if you can make it back to when the pyramid builders 1st (not WOT FIRST) got here. Get their levitation technology and keep them from doing like Navy and The GA Bulldawgs did. You know, that whole self destruct thing. Then and only then will you have a power/transportation source that may and/or may not require a “fossil fuel.”

Oh and BTW, semi enjoyed your motion pictures back in the day, but your politics blew it. To parrot NHSparky, get a hot mama. Did ya do Red Sonja?…ya should’ve. How about Jamie Lee Curtis? Sarah Conner? The girl terminator? (now that was a real hottie!!!!) Dumbass!

I have needed a Doctor in the past.
I have needed a Lawyer in the past.
I have needed an Electrician in the past.
I have needed a Plumber in the past.
I have needed a Mechanic in the past.
I have never needed a Celebrity.

Ahnold didn’t clean anything. He just became Gray Davis-light. Like the actor he is, he just read his lines. Once his wife convinced him to replace his Republican staff with D-rats, it was business as usual. He even ended up with the same Chief of Staff as Gray Davis.

Got four+ lbs of beef this morning. The charcoal grill gets fired up in about 30 mins. My method is to soak the charcoal in lighter fluid, let it sit two mins, and then put a butane torch to it. That’s gotta be a violation of the Green Commandments. Or two or three.

2/17 A/C “Buttercup” is new moniker AW1Ed hung on AnotherPat yesterday during the “if they only had a brain thread.” Think he included a linky to the song. I asked them if they needed a little quality alone time. AP chased me out throwing 45 rpms poly vinyls at me. I did get away with the left over beans and smoked sausage pot.

Caves can be quite warm and inviting if chosen properly. Easy enough to build fireplaces for cooking and heat, and create barriers to keep out cold winds and snow.

We could live like royalty while he runs out of electricity (no working power stations, and PV is unreliable) and heat (no natural gas available, all gas companies shut down), and no one to clean his hovel for him because they all left.

I bet the only reason Arnie porked his maid was because he was pretending to be a non-fossil fuel using primitive asshole. That’s it! He wasn’t cheating, he was just trying to return to his pre-fossil fuel days…. like this:

Why anyone would want to take advice from a bodybuilder who learned to read scripts and play pretend is beyond me, especially on how to govern the planet. Entertainers are entertainers because they know how to be entertaining, not because they are wise in the ways of the world. I was in a play once, and memorizing lines and learning how to deliver them on stage didn’t make me wise about anything.

1.) No fossil fuels since the beginning of artificial locomotion = horse and buggy.
2.) Can’t produce enough electricity without fossil fuels.
4.) Turbines and moving parts require lubrication.
3.) Hydrogen is cool but we have yet to get a mass-produced viable hydrogen powered vehicle and filling stations.
4.) Where do all the dead batteries go? How do you produce the materials for the power cells without fossil fuels/electricity?
5.) People pouring out the most carbon emissions can’t afford “eco-friendly” or zero emissions vehicles.”
6.) Arnold Schwarzenegger is irrelevant and like all celebtards, his opinion doesn’t matter.

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