Im not saying she doesnt have any, its just that I simply cant grasp what about the character would spur the (often creepy) level of fan love that she seems to. For the most part I feel she's an emotionally stunted straight man who occasionally throws off her cloyingly virginal facade for a round or two of cock sucking. Her "personality" is just so stilted and stunted that I cant feel any empathy for her at all (I thought her character was better realised in the anime where I sort of cared what happened). In my opinion she works best in the UBW path where she generally fades into the background but comes to the fore for comic relief and ass kicking.

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the appeal? king complex, a girl who wore the mask of a king and continued to deceive herself before shirou made her begin to see daylight. looking tough but frail in the inside. but then again, she's real tough nevertheless. and if you address her as just a side characte (read works best as a background decoration), you're wrong. wrong. she's not the type to show the real appeal while just being a decoration, unlike rin. I'm not saying rin's just a decoration, but she often manages to draw the attenion while is not under the spotlight.

also, moe-wise speaking, she's a girl who has a bit of everything. just... hard to define. at one time she can be seen as a (almost) loli, while in another she looks like a hot, mature woman.

"Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order and everything becomes... chaos.
I'm an agent of chaos."Fate/world providence

Hmm Ive always liked King Arthur but to be honest the whole Saber = king Arthur thing never really worked for me. I cant even accept her as "Anime King Arthur" like I can with, say, Cu Chulainn. Im also not familiar with the phrase "King complex". I also still maintain she works best as a "straight man" backup character i.e. her role in UBW ) Of course this is all just opinion, as solopy said most of these things are based on purely subjective likes and dislikes.

Uthred wrote:Hmm Ive always liked King Arthur but to be honest the whole Saber = king Arthur thing never really worked for me. I cant even accept her as "Anime King Arthur" like I can with, say, Cu Chulainn. Im also not familiar with the phrase "King complex". I also still maintain she works best as a "straight man" backup character i.e. her role in UBW ) Of course this is all just opinion, as solopy said most of these things are based on purely subjective likes and dislikes.

Correction...

Saber = FEMALE King Arthur

Notice how the word 'Female' makes ALOT of difference... She is someone that all arthur fanboys are allowed to drool over, and have wet dreams about... You see? You see?

... okay.. im not really making any sense.. Lol..

But anyway.. Dude.. Put the word 'SPOILERS' in the topic head.. so we can openly talk about Saber's identity here...

you know what's funny? I also cannot seem to accept the whole saber = king arthur with a straight face. but it's an integral part of the story, and I just found it beautiful. it truly is beautiful if a girl manages to endure all those and is finally able to find true happiness with the man she loves. )

also, regarding the "supporting character fits saber best", I would still say no. definite no. it's fate which made her look so beautiful to me. and she didn't even shine in ubw. ( hf is excluded for some reason )

"Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order and everything becomes... chaos.
I'm an agent of chaos."Fate/world providence

Raitei wrote:you know what's funny? I also cannot seem to accept the whole saber = king arthur with a straight face. but it's an integral part of the story, and I just found it beautiful. it truly is beautiful if a girl manages to endure all those and is finally able to find true happiness with the man she loves. )

also, regarding the "supporting character fits saber best", I would still say no. definite no. it's fate which made her look so beautiful to me. and she didn't even shine in ubw. ( hf is excluded for some reason )

Raitei, you sir, have stolen pretty much everything I would say. I wonder if your love for Saber is as much as mine >: D

Raitei wrote:you know what's funny? I also cannot seem to accept the whole saber = king arthur with a straight face. but it's an integral part of the story, and I just found it beautiful. it truly is beautiful if a girl manages to endure all those and is finally able to find true happiness with the man she loves. )

also, regarding the "supporting character fits saber best", I would still say no. definite no. it's fate which made her look so beautiful to me. and she didn't even shine in ubw. ( hf is excluded for some reason )

HF was an exception, she turned mega evil and she died, so nothing more can come out of her there.

To the topic, seeing (normally) serious people like Saber have other expressions such as blushing or embarresment adds to the moe and loli status. And she is also kind of short, so she would have made a great loli if she wasnt so hard headed all the time.

Sepheriel wrote:Raitei, you sir, have stolen pretty much everything I would say. I wonder if your love for Saber is as much as mine >: D

your love for saber, m'boy , isn't half deep as mine. )

Well we all know that by the Gate of Saber pics that you unleash in the Unlimited Pic Works thread here. Besides I don't think anyone here has that level of affection twoards Saber where they would be called a total saberphile by your standards of course.

In any case I always thought of her as the girl that knows how to live like a reverse trap in a way. Although she does start to show a femine side later on in the Fate storyline. As for UBW she suddenly was forced to show her female side as well after being "yuri raped" by Caster. As for HF well at least it showed that she had a "Dark side" to her even though it wasn't her fault to begin with.

Wait just one minute, you can have Caster, but DAMMIT I GET RIDER AND SAKURA!(They come as a pair, you know)

Fuck that, he can't have my Caster.

And when comparing Sakura to Saber, it's really no contest. Saber has a personality. Sakura may be misunderstood and violent, but she's not even consistent about it. Also, incapable of evoking sympathy.