In Los Angeles sometime in late 1970

One set of pix I would like to see corrected are two pix that have been associated with another set that was taken in Nashville on May 21, 1971. However, the 2 pix set above I do know about. They were taken by Cheryl Shapiro in Los Angeles in late 1970.

Many have simply, and understandably, thought that they are part of the Nashville set--but they are not. And ordinarly these date issues come down to a "he said, she said" kind of thing--except, and rather extrordinarly, the proof is actually in the pictures. Cheryl traded these pix with my Mom in early 1971 and she only wrote on the back "At R.C.A. late 1970". I guessed at the time that they were probably from Nov 70 but that was a guess based on other pix we had and on Elvis' whereabouts at the time. They are most likely from Nov or Dec of 1970. It was not uncommon for fans to not date their pix. Mom was forever getting Vegas pix from people that merely said Feb or Aug with no date and when I would press for the date the fans just said they didn't remember. I couldn't believe it, but to a lot of people the date just didn't really matter! Cheryl only knew she took these photos in late 1970.

Here is how you can tell they were taken in Los Angeles and not Nashville. The building across the street from Elvis is "Daily Variety" and that is a Hollywood trade paper that was only printed in Los Angeles. Wikipedia has a nice article on Variety and confirms that the "Daily" version was only printed in LA. At the time Daily Variety's building was across the street from RCA. I think Elvis was only there on business that day. I do not think he was recording or rehearsing.

Another interesting point about the two sets is that in the Nashville pix Elvis' suit appears to be blue, while in the LA pix his suit appears to be black or dark brown. As you know, Elvis had a habit that when he liked an outfit he would buy it in several colors. So I don't think he is even wearing the same outfit in these two sets!

Re: In Los Angeles sometime in late 1970

Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:42 am

Thank you sooooo much for the update, Paul! Cheers!

Re: In Los Angeles sometime in late 1970

Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:27 am

Presley was photographed standing on the corner of Sunset Blvd and Ivar Avenue. If I am mistaken then please tell me! Thankyou Paul, for my inspiration of at least trying to establish Presley's movements!

Thankyou goes to Doc for his most helpful correction!

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Re: In Los Angeles sometime in late 1970

Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:32 am

thefunkyangel wrote:Presley was photographed standing on the corner of Sunset Blvd and Ivar Avenue. If I am mistaken then please tell me!

You're close. It's just down the block.

Paul -

Having been to Los Angeles many times, that building looked familiar.

Using Google street view, it's clear that Elvis is getting into a car on Cole Place, just off of West Sunset Boulevard in Los Angeles:

1482 Cole Place by Sunset_Los Angeles.jpg

1482 Cole Place, Los Angeles, CA

The building behind him is 6430 Sunset -- now known as the CNN Building.

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Re: In Los Angeles sometime in late 1970

Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:39 am

Well done guys - thanks for the present street views

Re: In Los Angeles sometime in late 1970

Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:43 am

Thank you, DJC! Yeah I know, "it's what you do!"

Re: In Los Angeles sometime in late 1970

Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:48 am

Amoeba Music on Sunset is one of the greatest record stores in the world.

Re: In Los Angeles sometime in late 1970

Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:13 am

Odd, I wonder the reason he's on the corner there. I know it's close to the 6363 building, but it's down the road a way.

I love AR btw, I've found many hard to find DVD's, and CD's in there! Great place to search for hard to find gems!

Re: In Los Angeles sometime in late 1970

Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:36 pm

Additional sleuthing finds these candids are not only from Los Angeles, but also date to spring 1971, probably late April - May 1971.

Although the Pinto went on the market in September 1970, Ford did not begin pushing the low pricing of the Pinto $1919 and Maverick $2175 until March 1971,

And the Maverick was new for 1971:

LIFE Mar 26 1971 p19.jpg

LIFE, March 26, 1971

bripet56 noted the huge gold necklace Elvis has on was not seen before the famous December 21, 1970 White House visit, and was worn through the spring of 1971.

egilj on another topic keenly observed Elvis did not have sideburns that short in late 1970, the bill for the jacket he has on from the IC Costume Company was dated May 17, 1971 (source: Elvis Fashion: From Memphis to Vegas, page 172-173). and he spent a lot of time in LA in April, May and June 1971.

Thus, may I suggest the topic title be updated to:Elvis in Los Angeles, circa May 1971

Thank you.

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Re: In Los Angeles sometime in late 1970

When are you updating the page with my location find? The dating may be narrowed down a bit by clues in the photos.

The Ford Pinto went on the market in Sep 1970 (see billboard). The sideburns he wears do not match what we see on the Nov 1970 tour, and he seems thinner than in Dec 1970. Elvis was not an early morning person, yet it's still pretty light out, so this may further exclude Dec.

Elvis was known to be in LA:Oct 9 - buys 1971 StutzOct 18-21 - buys first TCB pendants

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Re: In Los Angeles sometime in late 1970

Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:59 pm

Nice find on the ad, but don't they also start advertising the newest cars a long time before, and after they hit the market? Maybe (this one could be tough) some reaseach on advertising for the Pinto can be done. Launch dates of ad campaigns etc.

Re: In Los Angeles sometime in late 1970

Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:26 am

drjohncarpenter wrote:

thefunkyangel wrote:Presley was photographed standing on the corner of Sunset Blvd and Ivar Avenue. If I am mistaken then please tell me!

You're close. It's just down the block.

Paul -

Having been to Los Angeles many times, that building looked familiar.

Using Google street view, it's clear that Elvis is getting into a car on Cole Place!

cool! Cole Place is the street where I always park my car whenever I go to Amoeba!

Re: In Los Angeles sometime in late 1970

Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:39 am

IMETJB wrote:

drjohncarpenter wrote:

thefunkyangel wrote:Presley was photographed standing on the corner of Sunset Blvd and Ivar Avenue. If I am mistaken then please tell me!

You're close. It's just down the block.

Paul -

Having been to Los Angeles many times, that building looked familiar.

Using Google street view, it's clear that Elvis is getting into a car on Cole Place!

cool! Cole Place is the street where I always park my car whenever I go to Amoeba!

Is it freaky now knowing you've walked the same public pavement as The King?

Re: In Los Angeles sometime in late 1970

Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:40 am

Yeah, it's hard to get in there. That sorry excuse they have for a parking lot is a laugh. I usually park at the fast food dump across the street, get something to drink, and walk over. Never had a problem doing it that way.

Maybe that's why Elvis was photographed there. He was sneaking a parking spot across the street, and running into the record store to get the latest top 40....or not

Re: In Los Angeles sometime in late 1970

Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:40 am

Interesting thread... Good to have you Elvis sleuths walking the beat!

I recently read an provocative defense of the lowly , late, lamented Pinto.

In effect: She was framed!

Re: In Los Angeles sometime in late 1970

Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:45 am

Jim Dandy wrote:

IMETJB wrote:

drjohncarpenter wrote:

thefunkyangel wrote:Presley was photographed standing on the corner of Sunset Blvd and Ivar Avenue. If I am mistaken then please tell me!

You're close. It's just down the block.

Paul -

Having been to Los Angeles many times, that building looked familiar.

Using Google street view, it's clear that Elvis is getting into a car on Cole Place!

cool! Cole Place is the street where I always park my car whenever I go to Amoeba!

Is it freaky now knowing you've walked the same public pavement as The King?

I believe it will change my life

RCsun wrote:Yeah, it's hard to get in there. That sorry excuse they have for a parking lot is a laugh. I usually park at the fast food dump across the street, get something to drink, and walk over. Never had a problem doing it that way.

Maybe that's why Elvis was photographed there. He was sneaking a parking spot across the street, and running into the record store to get the latest top 40....or not

Ah, the Jack In The Box...always interesting characters in there.

Re: In Los Angeles sometime in late 1970

Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:51 am

That's right, it's been a while since I've gotten out to West Hollywood. I kept thinking it was Carl's Jr, but it felt wrong. The In-n-Out is further down. I love Suset Blvd!

I still wonder what the hell he was doing on that corner, and who, with a camera in hand, knew. Interesting. A nothing event obviously, but interesting to me!

Re: In Los Angeles sometime in late 1970

Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:03 am

RCsun wrote:I still wonder what the hell he was doing on that corner, and who, with a camera in hand, knew. Interesting. A nothing event obviously, but interesting to me!

Oh yeah me too. Grabbing a bite at the nearby cafes...or visiiting the shops? Doc, above, alludes to possible reasons why he was in town...

Re: In Los Angeles sometime in late 1970

Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:22 am

I can see why he's in town, just now why he's -apparently- out of a car, and on the corner. Maybe he saw a shop he liked, and they stopped.

(Before the attacks come, there are other well known photos of him in a car sticking out the roof, so I say apparently because the shot's are too close to tell)

Re: In Los Angeles sometime in late 1970

When are you updating the page with my location find? The dating may be narrowed down a bit by clues in the photos.

The Ford Pinto went on the market in Sep 1970 (see billboard). The sideburns he wears do not match what we see on the Nov 1970 tour, and he seems thinner than in Dec 1970. Elvis was not an early morning person, yet it's still pretty light out, so this may further exclude Dec.

Elvis was known to be in LA:Oct 9 - buys 1971 StutzOct 18-21 - buys first TCB pendants