POOL 1 IS ALL PROS, AND ALL ADVANCED MEN (PAR 69)POOL 2 IS ALL INTERMEDIATE MEN (PAR 67)POOL 3 IS RECREATIONAL MEN AND WOMEN (PAR 62)

SOME HOLES WILL HAVE POOLS 1&2 TOGETHER, AND SOME HOLES WLL HAVE POOLS 2&3 TOGETHER - PLEASE BE AWARE OF WHAT POOL PLAYS WHICH TEE!

Hole 1 485 / 311 ft Par 3 / 3Pool 1 tees from top of hill to a basket at the bottom of the hillPools 2&3 tees from flags on hill to a basket at the bottom of the hillFence is NOT OB Inside/ on top of any building is OBTo next tee, all Pools turn left. Pool 1 tees from pad, Pools 2&3 tee from flags 100 ft ahead

Hole 2 416 / 311 ft Par 4 / 3Pool 1 tees from pad to a basket just on the other side of the tree line.Pools 2&3 tee from flags 100 ft ahead to a basket just on the other side of the tree line.To next tee Pool 1 walks straight ahead, Pools 2&3 turn right and follow tree line. Pool 2 tees from flags at the start of the clearing, Pool 3 turns right to flags near the gap in the tree line

Hole 3 970 / 670 / 525 ft Par 5 / 5 / 5Pool 1 tees from pad to a basket that is at the end of a “Z” fairway.Pool 2 tees from flags in clearing, Pool 3 tees from flags near gap in tree lineFence on the left is NOT OB – DO NOT touch wires hanging over the fairwayTo next tee Pool 1 turns left and proceeds thru the trees to tee pad. Pools 2&3 walk straight ahead thru tree line and turn left to flags near tree.

Hole 4 605 / 355 ft Par 4 / 4Dogleg right turn for Pool 1, straight ahead shot for Pools 2&3Fence on left and behind basket is NOT O.B. DO NOT touch wires hanging over the fairway.To next tee Pool 1 turns right to the tee pad, Pools 2&3 go thru fence to flags in field

Hole 5 510 / 400 / 300 ft Par 4 / 4 / 3Pool 1 tees from tee pad to basket near the building. Pools 2&3 tee from flags in field NONE of the fences are OB – inside or on top of building IS OB.To next tee, all Pools go around fence and turn left in open field. Pool 1 tees from pad, Pool 2 tees from edge of clearing, Pool 3 tees from flags near fence line.

Hole 7 290 / 250 ft Par 3 / 3Pools 1&2 tee from pad. Pool 3 tees from flags 40 ft ahead to a basket straight across the creek.Water in creek is casual water – PLEASE USE BRIDGE to cross creek - one at a time.To next tee, all Pools turn left into open field.

Hole 8 333 / 270 ft Par 3 / 3Pool 1&2 tee from pad, Pool 3 tees from flags near opening in trees to a basket across the creek.Water in creek is casual water – PLEASE USE BRIDGE to cross creek - one at a time.To next tee Pool 1 tees from pad inside trees, Pools 2&3 exit trees, turn towards the lake to flags.

Hole 9 700 / 500 ft Par 4 / 4Pool 1 tees from pad, Pools 2&3 tee from flags to a basket near the lake under the large tree.Lake IS OB – Fence to the left of the basket is NOT OBTo next tee, all pools cross dirt road. Pool 1 tees from pad, Pool 2 tees from flags near gap ahead and to the right, Pool 3 tees from flags near the opening in trees.

Hole 10 500 / 325 / 250 ft Par 4 / 4 / 3There are several different paths to the basket. Road is NOT OB – DO NOT touch hanging wires in the fairway.To next tee, all Pools turn right towards fence line. Pool 1 turns left into the woods, pools 2&3 tee from flags in the field.

Hole 11 689 / 508 / 359 ft Par 4 / 4 / 4Pool 1 tees from pad to a basket at the other side of the fieldPool 2 tees from flags near trees, Pool 3 tees from flags near opening in fieldFence on left side of fairway is OB – (You may cross fence to retrieve your disc)To next tee turn right to road, turn LEFT on road and follow it uphill to the tee for Hole 12

Hole 13 595 / 520 / 350 ft Par 4 / 4 / 3Pool 1 tees from pad to a basket straight ahead thru the tunnel of trees.Pool 2&3 tee from flags in the field to a basket straight ahead thru the tunnel of trees.Fence / String line on left side of fairway 2/3 down and beyond the basket is OB To next tee, all pools go straight ahead. Pool 1 tees from pad, Pools 2&3 turn right, go thru woods.Pool 2 turns right at the opening to flags near tree line, Pool 3 tees off from flags in the field to the left.

Hole 14 715 / 590 / 300 ft Par 4 / 4/ 3Pool 1 tees from pad, Pools 2&3 continue into field. Pool 2 tees from flags near tree line, Pool 3 tees from flags on left. All pools tee to a basket straight ahead at the bottom of the hill near the lake. Lake IS OB – crossing any fence is NOT OBTo next tee, all pools turn back and follow path on right to Hole 15, Pools 1&2 plays from tee, Pool 3 tee from flags in the fairway.

Hole 15 470 / 310 ft Par 4 / 4Pools 1&2 tee from pad to a basket ahead across the winding creek with the creek behind the basket.Pool 3 tees from flags ahead to a basket ahead across the winding creek with the creek behind the basket.Completely surrounded by water in the creek IS OBTo next tee, all pools follow the path back up the hill to Hole 16 tees

Hole 16 290 / 250 ft Par 3 / 3Pools 1&2 tee from pad to a basket ahead and slightly to the right.Pool 3 tees from flags to a basket ahead and slightly to the right.Completely surrounded by water in the creek on the right IS OBTo next tee, all Pools walk straight ahead. Pool 1 tees from pad, Pools 2&3 walk down path thru woods into the open field. Pool 2 tees from flags near the tree line, and Pool 3 tees from flags in the field.

Hole 17 580 / 430 / 360 ft Par 4 / 4 / 4Pool 1 tees from pad inside tree line to a basket that is a slight dogleg to the left.Pool 2 tees from flags in the opening near the tree line, Pool 3 tees from flags in the field.Beyond any fence is NOT OB. To next tee, all pools turn right and go thru gate to Hole 18 tees in the open field.

Hole 18 545 / 390 ft Par 4 / 4Pool 1 tees from pad, Pools 2&3 tee from flags 155 ft ahead and to the left.Hole is a dogleg right with the basket near the parking area.BEYOND FENCE on left is OB – the fences on the right & near the basket are NOT OB.To next tee, all Pools cross parking area.Pool 1 turns left up the hill, Pools 2&3 tee from flags in the field straight ahead.

I do not know that it is inherently "unfair", but for Earlwood, Crucible, and Lake Russell - maybe a lottery system would be more FAIR. If you are willing to send in your money within a 5-day window, your name will be put into a hat for tourney spots. Kind of like the P'tree road race does it. That would be more FAIR. Money could be refunded to those that do not get in or be used to set priority for the waiting list. It is just a thought. I could not park by my computer Friday night and thought I had time to do it later on Saturday, but was denied...

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I don't know if a lottery would be fair either. Luck is brought into play if it is done that way. There should be a reward for making something a priority and seeing that it gets done. But I wouldn't mind a different starting time than midnight.

On a side note, it's ok Bob, we understand that you are over 40 and can't stay up till midnight to sign up. Sorry you missed out. But people will drop out, so hget on Keith's mental waitlist.

I am not saying it's unfair - but like Earlwood - a tournament selling out in minutes, there is a lot of luck as to whether you get in or not too. I had no idea that Crucible would sell out in a few hours - I should have camped out to assure my spot. Actually, I had a busy Saturday with kids stuff and totally forgot about checking when I woke up - not only is it hard to stay awake Hugh, but us old folks are easily addled.

I still say what I proposed above is more fair, but it would be more work for the TD and I am not sure I'd want to mess with it. I think that I'd just rather see my event sell out in a few minutes/hours.

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htorbit wrote:I don't know if a lottery would be fair either. Luck is brought into play if it is done that way. There should be a reward for making something a priority and seeing that it gets done. But I wouldn't mind a different starting time than midnight. On a side note, it's ok Bob, we understand that you are over 40 and can't stay up till midnight to sign up. Sorry you missed out. But people will drop out, so hget on Keith's mental waitlist.

Funky Bobby J wrote:I am not saying it's unfair - but like Earlwood - a tournament selling out in minutes, there is a lot of luck as to whether you get in or not too. I had no idea that Crucible would sell out in a few hours - I should have camped out to assure my spot. Actually, I had a busy Saturday with kids stuff and totally forgot about checking when I woke up - not only is it hard to stay awake Hugh, but us old folks are easily addled.

I still say what I proposed above is more fair, but it would be more work for the TD and I am not sure I'd want to mess with it. I think that I'd just rather see my event sell out in a few minutes/hours.

Well - for those 12 who have called or left messages for the "Non-waitlist" waitlist, and also forthe others posting here - you can always put that entry fee money you would have used for the CRUCIBLE towards the Series Finale A-Tier in September which has been on sale since NOV 1st and still has 150 spots available - so there is plenty of time to sign up in the next month or 2 before it sells out.

With 180 available spots in the Event, NO ONE has any excuses to get shut out of that one.

richardhead wrote:The problem with that is The Crucible is the shiznit and Central is shiz.

By your own admission - you haven't seen Central in 2 years or played the Supersized layout - try it first at the AO and then you can at least base it off something real versus imagined - and if you still don't like the course enough to play the other local A-Tier in September I'll understand.

I've played the super=size layout on more than one occasion. The last time was at the USDGC qualifier. I'm pretty sure that was 2 years ago, maybe not. Anyway, I just don't see what all of the hype is about. Central has a couple decent holes, but as a whole the course is boring. With the addition to the police dept. and now the rec. center, Central has lost some of it's better holes.

It's not as much hype as it is that it is not crap if set up right with pin and tee pad positions.

all White, Blue, Red pads, or all long or all short pins - yeah it isn't great, but it is still better to have the variety available with the land they got to use than to have nothing or all static spots- that's all I'm saying.

I know it's not everyone's favorite, but it is my "home course" so I don't see it as negatively, because I have the options of a variety of holes to play any time I'm there - which is how I came up with 10 different Supersized layouts (changing them everytime some Softball or construction project gets in the way) - which you can't do at alot or most of the other ATL area courses.

I have had Sorrells BBQ do lunch for the first 2 GSSS Events at THE CRUCIBLE but being in FEB and have had no issues with them - if something changes and they CAN'T do it in MARCH - I will gladly take you up on it Ryan.

Anyone not able to make it? I played the flying eye last fall and loved the course. Couldn't wait for the next tourney there, but didn't know it was part of the super popular gsss and missed out on the sign up. If anyone finds out they can't make it, I'd love to play. Thanks a bunch.

Below is from an E-Mail sent from the park manager at Sandy Creek which oversees the CRUCIBLE course property to myself and members of the ATHENS club in regards to use of the property even though they have put in COUNTLESS HOURS of volunteer work in at Sandy Creek park as well as the CRUCIBLE property.

For those of you who think I'm too hard on people or that I'm a pain in the ass for wanting there to be no STUPIDITY involved in events I run because it is easy to have ONE PERSON screw it up for everyone - please read what the Park manger wrote (in red below), and then when done reading that, please also read what Kelly Leggette wrote in the FLY BOY thread about maybe losing the "Worlds longest disc golf hole", or what John Ritger has written about all the efforts he has put forth to obtain a course at Perkerson Park and then ask yourselves Am I the reason that these courses may never have Events again, or am I the reason they may never be installed or am I the reason changes have to be made to a SWEET disc golf course?

You are fortunate to currently have the opportunity to do any activities at the crucible. After last year's "keg" sitting out in front of the red shed in a garbage can (Flying Eye) as well as garbage cans full of alcohol containers after last year's Super Six, the crucible is on a short leash to begin with (very short). You may be under the impression that county policy or county rules may be bypassed because you help with setup and maintenance. I assure you that you are mistaken. I could have easily shut the crucible down permanently, but you should thank Doug and Keith who assured me steps would be taken to prevent these types of incidents in the future.

In response to liability issues: If there is not an event agreement attached to any proposed activity at Cook's property, there is no event. FYI - Cook's property is not part of Sandy Creek Park, so an event agreement is absolutely mandatory for any activity taking place out there.

As far as "profit" being handed over to the park; Do you really want to get into the actual cost of preparing the crucible for Tournaments (especially the Flying Eye)? Being that the crucible is prepared exclusively for your use, the amount of labor, gas, etc..., that it takes our department to prepare the crucible for this one weekend is significantly more than the few hundred dollars the park receives. If you still feel entitlement to this property, I will be happy to include all costs associated with preparing the crucible in any future agreements with your organization.

You may disagree with county policies as set forth, but the alternative is that Cook's property will be unavailable to anyone.

Policies and agreements are in place for both parties to understand responsibilities and expectations. While I understand and will listen to any concerns or suggestions any of you may have, please understand I am limited by county policy and procedures. I hope, however, we can continue the successful relationship between disc golf organizations and ACC Leisure Services Department.

grease wrote:Pack it in, pack it out folks! It's that easy. Should be the same at any other park.

Except for the fact that the parks don't even want it "packed in" since it is ILLEGAL in the park, so PLEASE don't even bring it with you - leave it at the hotel or wait until the end of the day at your home or favorite watering hole to enjoy. To quote Greg - "It's that easy."

I may seeing that with the time change there "should" be enough daylight to allow it, BUT I will decide based on what is best for the WHOLE experience and not do it just to make 4 others who didn't sign up in time happy. I am really just happy that Steve(park Manager) has allowed the Event to go on as for the last few weeks that was not even a certainty. Now I'm hoping that Doug and the rest of the Athens club will still be willing to help me and the Event out if the course can not be played Friday or Sunday. If so they may be part of the 4some that gets added if one does - time will tell.

Where are the directions, I have not been there since 2002 and do not remember how to get there and cannot find directions. No GPS grids 32.849875-33847bfwebhjiu. Unless, Jon, you are going to supply a GPS unit, and it must be able to mount to my motorcycle.

As one on the outside looking in, I gotta say - 5somes at the Crucible in a one day tournament with everyone driving home - is a really long day (if everyone was spending the night & camping - long day, no problem). I think that you gotta add 45 minutes at least per round to an already long round. I really want to play and would jump at the opportunity to play it in 5somes, but that is a really really long day.

I think that a ghost card on 6 (the second par 5 into the woods) would likely not slow things down too much with the longish walk from 5.

Still keeping my fingers crossed... I might step on Plotky's foot this weekend...

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It's your own fault if you didn't make it in. Adding holes, ghost cards, or making 5-somes is INVALID!!! That being said, I do think it's a good idea for Keith to please those that need to be pleased as far as keeping the Crucible as a future disc golf venue. If he needs to add a ghost group for the purpose of pleasing the powers that be, I say go for it. Adding ghost cards to help out the lazy people that couldn't wait up and sign up like the rest of us is INVALID!!!

No one is blaming anyone for not getting in. It is my own fault for not getting in, thank you captain obvious. Adding a card to this course will have absolutely little to no effect on those playing b/c of space and time. You want to call me lazy, ok. Richardhead you are bald, fat, and I hope you fail as a t.d. You are lucky to have another tournament in the area the following day otherwise you may not see the 12 people that are signed up. Do you even have 12 people yet? Go boost your own tourny thread.

SKELETOR wrote:Where are the directions, I have not been there since 2002 and do not remember how to get there and cannot find directions. No GPS grids 32.849875-33847bfwebhjiu. Unless, Jon, you are going to supply a GPS unit, and it must be able to mount to my motorcycle.

Take GA 316 to the Athens Bypass (GA 10 Loop)Don't take the UGA exit - keep straight toward the Home Depot, but take a right after the bridge and before the shopping center onto the North Bypass (jug handle entrance ramp).Take the North Bypass to the Danielsville Rd exit (just past US-441).Take a left on to Danielsville Rd., and follow it North for a mile or so and look for Nowhere Rd. on your left (around a small fenced-in detention pond).Turn left on Nowhere Rd. and go for about 2.5 miles. Look for a gate on your left after you pass the cemetery - that's the entrance/parking area.

Hope this helps.

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I don't see how a ghost card can be added without any residual affect on the tournament. Normally, there are backupswhen the field is full with foursomes. How can you say adding an intermittent group will not add to the normal backups? Don't get me wrong, I hope FBJ and Kade can get in.

The ironic thing is Kade has never even mentioned to me about wanting to be on the "mental list", and Bob forgot to have DD sign him up at the same time as it took an hour and 14 minutes longer to sell the last 2 spots out after the White Tiger got in.

Chris Foley and Kelly Leggette need to talk 2 guys into switching to the older old guys division, or they will need to switch to another division as they are only 2 of the required 4 minimum for that division.

kade.erp wrote:No one is blaming anyone for not getting in. It is my own fault for not getting in, thank you captain obvious. Adding a card to this course will have absolutely little to no effect on those playing b/c of space and time. You want to call me lazy, ok. Richardhead you are bald, fat, and I hope you fail as a t.d. You are lucky to have another tournament in the area the following day otherwise you may not see the 12 people that are signed up. Do you even have 12 people yet? Go boost your own tourny thread.

My opinion wasn't directed towards you. It was just an opinion. I'm not sure why you have to resort to name calling and tournament slamming. I just think that adding holes and ghost cards is crap. If you didn't get in, it's your own fault. I may be bald and fat, but I'm bright enough to know that I need to be sitting next to the CPU to get signed up for one of Keith's tournaments.

As for my tournament and my efforts as a first time TD, I may fail, but a friend needed someone to step up and keep a tournament running for the 9th straight year, so I did it. You don't have to support me or the tournament, I'm sure that I will have no problem getting entries. If it's 12 or 90, we will have fun and make the best of it. For those of you that do sign up for the Stephens County Pro-Am, please consider staying in the area and checking out Josh Burgess action in Seneca the following day.

keith johnson wrote:Chris Foley and Kelly Leggette need to talk 2 guys into switching to the older old guys division, or they will need to switch to another division as they are only 2 of the required 4 minimum for that division.

keith johnson wrote:Chris Foley and Kelly Leggette need to talk 2 guys into switching to the older old guys division, or they will need to switch to another division as they are only 2 of the required 4 minimum for that division.

keith johnson wrote:Chris Foley and Kelly Leggette need to talk 2 guys into switching to the older old guys division, or they will need to switch to another division as they are only 2 of the required 4 minimum for that division.

So, how far down the 'mental wait-list' am I?

So far that it'll take a gifted hypno-therapist to dredge your name up from the recesses of his mind....

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keith johnson wrote:Chris Foley and Kelly Leggette need to talk 2 guys into switching to the older old guys division, or they will need to switch to another division as they are only 2 of the required 4 minimum for that division.

Chris gets some help as Jamey Tinch is out (but STILL HELPING with setup of the course!) and Michael Burton is IN and playing GM.Only needs one more to switch - maybe with Plotky coming back from injury he might want to ease into it and play with the "older old" guystmLike I've been doing in Vegas and Arizona.

keith johnson wrote:Chris Foley and Kelly Leggette need to talk 2 guys into switching to the older old guys division, or they will need to switch to another division as they are only 2 of the required 4 minimum for that division.

So, how far down the 'mental wait-list' am I?

So far that it'll take a gifted hypno-therapist to dredge your name up from the recesses of his mind....

Bob is pretty accurate as the next 6 names in no particular order do NOT include the former owner of a nice clear jar which is now sitting on my trophy shelf.

But keep up your hopes - as there are rumors of at least 1 more person possibly not making who left me a phone message.

RobertB wrote:I thought you did not have a wait list for any of your events? In the past you just posted a message on the board and first one to reply gets the spot.Has that changed?

The waitlist only exists in my head - which is why it is not posted and why it's called a "non waitlist" or "mental waitlist" waitlist.

Usually there are 2-5 people who don't get in and want to be "informed" if a spot opens up and with the usual 6-10 people who sign up and then can't make it I'm usually posting on the board first come first served after going thru the "mental waitlist", but with the CRUCIBLE and Lake Russell the people NOT signing up in time and the people rotating out go up DRASTICALLY - which is why I'll sometimes rattle off numbers of how far down the list someone is if they ask - so essentially NOTHING has changed in the 3 years I've been running the GSSS.

keith johnson wrote: so essentially NOTHING has changed in the 3 years I've been running the GSSS. Keith

So why add a ghost card now?

Who said I AM adding a ghost card?

IF I do it will be to REWARD the Athens players who are spending this SUNDAY helping to set the course up, but most of those are already in or not able to play, so it will be at MY descretion and looking at all the angles - such as almost 2 hours more daylight than the first 2 years, plus the course has the ability to put a ghost card in 3 different spots without seriously affecting course flow.

Besides even cavemen change their ways for the greater good sometimes.

Just to REALLY torque you - if I do add a ghost card, I'm only gonna take REC players, and I'll start you on the same hole as the original 4 some so the REC guys can harrass you while you throw seeing how fond of them you are.

keith johnson wrote:Usually there are 2-5 people who don't get in and want to be "informed" if a spot opens up and with the usual 6-10 people who sign up and then can't make it I'm usually posting on the board first come first served after going thru the "mental waitlist", but with the CRUCIBLE and Lake Russell the people NOT signing up in time and the people rotating out go up DRASTICALLY - which is why I'll sometimes rattle off numbers of how far down the list someone is if they ask - so essentially NOTHING has changed in the 3 years I've been running the GSSS.

keith johnson wrote: so essentially NOTHING has changed in the 3 years I've been running the GSSS. Keith

So why add a ghost card now?

Who said I AM adding a ghost card?

IF I do it will be to REWARD the Athens players who are spending this SUNDAY helping to set the course up, but most of those are already in or not able to play, so it will be at MY descretion and looking at all the angles - such as almost 2 hours more daylight than the first 2 years, plus the course has the ability to put a ghost card in 3 different spots without seriously affecting course flow.

Besides even cavemen change their ways for the greater good sometimes.

Just to REALLY torque you - if I do add a ghost card, I'm only gonna take REC players, and I'll start you on the same hole as the original 4 some so the REC guys can harrass you while you throw seeing how fond of them you are.

Sweet!! 3 ghost groups!!! Thanks Keith Can I be on the "mental list" ? (the one in your head, not the one I am already listed on at the hospital )

keith johnson wrote:Usually there are 2-5 people who don't get in and want to be "informed" if a spot opens up and with the usual 6-10 people who sign up and then can't make it I'm usually posting on the board first come first served after going thru the "mental waitlist", but with the CRUCIBLE and Lake Russell the people NOT signing up in time and the people rotating out go up DRASTICALLY - which is why I'll sometimes rattle off numbers of how far down the list someone is if they ask - so essentially NOTHING has changed in the 3 years I've been running the GSSS.

HUGE THANKS to Jamey Tinch, Ryan Adams, & Chris Foley for all their help during the day on SUN to help set the course up as well as to Doug Porter for the baskets and mats and Jonathan Reppenhagen for his time on SUN.

Keith-I just received my sons soccer schedule at his practice last night. Unfortunately I need to drop out of my favorite tournament at my favorite course. His first game is at 11:00 on Saturday. I can't miss his first game. Sorry for the late notice.

I read this entire thread and now know about the short leash the course has, the topic of a ghost card, the various teepad configurations, the fact the Saints won the Super Bowl, and I have a pretty good understanding of how to get there. Being a first time Crucible player I still need to ask maybe the most important question of all.

What is for lunch? BBQ? Pizza? Or should I plan to bring my own.

Thanks,

Vermin

Speakin' the vernacular of the peasantry. Poor little kid, I hope she gets home all right....Professor Marvel

In the past Keith had a BBQ joint serve food on site. They usually have BBQ plates, Burgers, Dogs, snacks, and drinks. The food has always been great and well worth the price. Driving from the course to get lunch is a hassle and could cause you to be late returning for the second round.

grease wrote:As popular opinion would have it, REC players are ALL ghosts to me!

47 year old REC players driving in from Texas ROCK BABY!!! I'm 7 rating points above Novice and don't think I won't sign up for Novice if my rating falls. I'm going to win something before I die.

I'm looking forward to joining all of you again. I played one of the series tournaments back in 2008. Being the only meskin there and wearing a cowboy hat, I was mistaken for part of the grounds crew and had to mow part of the back 9 before they would let me play. I would have been offended but the pay was pretty reasonable and I got a couple of authentic taquitos for my troubles. I actually went back to Home Depot the following week hoping for another job.

I read this entire thread and now know about the short leash the course has, the topic of a ghost card, the various teepad configurations, the fact the Saints won the Super Bowl, and I have a pretty good understanding of how to get there. Being a first time Crucible player I still need to ask maybe the most important question of all.

What is for lunch? BBQ? Pizza? Or should I plan to bring my own.

Thanks,

Vermin

Normally I have had Sorrell's BBQ, but now with the new things and contract stipulations the park has asked for, there will sadly be NO FOOD available on site this year. I'm still trying to find out what is close to there, but if nothing else, plan on bringing lunch with you just to be on the safe side.

HUGE THANKS TO EVERYONE for respecting the park and keeping the chance of future Events alive!

Thanks to everyone who showed up to play (only 2 REC players did not show and were replaced by Joel Shimkus and Greg Flowers) as well as all the sponsors who helped create the NICE payouts!

I showed the park guy that there were NO alcohol items in the 3 trash cans, and we also FILLED the recycling bin with plastic bottles and cans which helps the environment - as well as EVERY piece of trash was picked up from the gate onward, so the place is SPOTLESS going into Doug's Event in a few hours.

Thanks to Brett Porter, Matthew Mashburn and John Ritger for scoring help as well as Joel Shimkus and everyone else who helped bring in tee signs and water jugs as it makes my life EXTREMELY easier at the end of an Event.