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gnarf

whatawhiner wrote:I might not know much, but 300W power supply? Is that enough to support using the power button?

Shockingly yes it is enough. PC parts have been getting extremely power efficient. The CPU TDP is 65W and the GPU is 50W, AMD has really stepped up their game lately. Last time I used AMD, a decade ago, their CPUs and GPUs were power hungry and always ran HOT, I'm glad they're back in the running with Intel, I'll look forward to their offerings in a few years, or at least the competition should be beneficial to all.

atomizer

whatawhiner wrote:I might not know much, but 300W power supply? Is that enough to support using the power button?

This PC has a good CPU and sufficient RAM, but the GPU is pretty crappy for gaming and it needs an SSD, period. The 550 is better than Intel integrated graphics, but that's about it. The 300 W PSU would easily suffice for a 1050 Ti upgrade, which is at least capable of gaming at FHD/medium settings without needing any more power than the PCIe slot can provide. Unfortunately, GPU pricing is so outrageous that the cheapest 1050 Ti (for example) I found is about double what I paid for one over a year ago.

That being said, this PC is a good deal if you need it mainly for the CPU, for non-gaming tasks, because you're limited in what GPU you can upgrade to in the first place, and GPUs are so overpriced that it throws out any value proposition of buying a prebuilt and upgrading individual components yourself.

HypeInLimits

arrimapir8

gnarf wrote:Shockingly yes it is enough. PC parts have been getting extremely power efficient. The CPU TDP is 65W and the GPU is 50W, AMD has really stepped up their game lately. Last time I used AMD, a decade ago, their CPUs and GPUs were power hungry and always ran HOT, I'm glad they're back in the running with Intel, I'll look forward to their offerings in a few years, or at least the competition should be beneficial to all.

Hi I'm also with AMD and wow are these low power consumption parts HOT, baby! The crypto mining scene loves it!!!!

tlb1961

For years HP has always been the bane of my existence. They seem to use lesser quality parts than the next to profit a nickel. Note that these units are "factory reconditioned". There is a reason for this

gak0090

chouchouHao wrote:This is not VR ready like the marketing material states. The GPU is not recommended for VR by Oculus or HTC.

I agree, I got my son a similar computer, the HP 580-131, it came with the VR headset and controllers and the entire deal was $750. The difference is the CPU in the one I bought was only a Ryzen 5 1400, BUT the GPU in it was the RX 580 which is more than twice as powerful as the RX 550. His works fine with VR, but I would not skimp on the GPU for VR, I don't think the RX 550 is powerful enough for VR. I wouldn't really call this a gaming desktop. I would say this is a great workstation with a nice CPU that can do some gaming.

specialbuddy

Easy upgrade if you can get a video card. The GPU market is still insane and requires constant attention if you actually want a "deal". You're actually better off buying a system with the video card you want because prebuilts are actually way cheaper than DIY at this point because of ram and GPU prices.

lotusstp

Picked up this exact system when Costco had it on sale for $599 as an Xmas gift for my son. He's quite pleased with it & it's an upgrade from his previous system which was an AMD quad-core custom built tower. I foresee replacing the power supply & the display adapter at some point in the future but for now it satisfies his gaming needs.

tradergeorge

tlb1961 wrote:For years HP has always been the bane of my existence. They seem to use lesser quality parts than the next to profit a nickel. Note that these units are "factory reconditioned". There is a reason for this

I used to work in an electronics return center. The "reason" for most reconditioned products is that they were either refused on shipment, The customer returned it after opening it, or the packaging was damaged during shipment. Those units cannot be sold as new, so they are gone over very carefully, most times better than new units are. Any defects detected are repaired or replaced. I would not hesitate to buy a factory reconditioned unit if the discount was substantial. Third party refurbs are a completely different matter, however.

clocks11

I've had several HP refurbs, and they have always looked/worked like new. I actually suspected they were older models that were trying to be sold prior to the new models coming out? I agree with the other person, who said make sure they are MANUFACTURER refurbs.

I bought this model when Costco had it for $600 in Oct. I immediately through a m2 ssd in it. Incredible bang for the buck, and I am tempted to pick up another with this deal.

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