In truth, I know he wasn't holding her there as a shield. A camera catches a moment in time, and he could have been pulling her back, holding her, giving her a back rub, or any number of things at the time. It's just funny to think of some guy going "oh shiat!" and ducking behind the nearest tiny woman.

In truth, I know he wasn't holding her there as a shield. A camera catches a moment in time, and he could have been pulling her back, holding her, giving her a back rub, or any number of things at the time. It's just funny to think of some guy going "oh shiat!" and ducking behind the nearest tiny woman.

As someone familiar with protester and police behavior in that city I'm not getting a kick out of this.

/he was trying to pull her away//PDX women are mouthy b*tches///native

Was she ok? I know from personal experience how painful that stuff is, and I never swallowed a lungful of it. I'd rather be tased a couple more times because once that is done, the pain STOPS. Not so much with the CS.

And as a medic, I know people can have severe reactions to it and difficulty breathing under even optimal usages. Can't imagine catching it in the throat like that.

In truth, I know he wasn't holding her there as a shield. A camera catches a moment in time, and he could have been pulling her back, holding her, giving her a back rub, or any number of things at the time. It's just funny to think of some guy going "oh shiat!" and ducking behind the nearest tiny woman.

It is quite the picture. Yes, I LOL'd. I know, it's not really funny but the whole scenario must have played out by "MOVE BACK" "NO! WE'RE NOT MOVING ANYWHERE" "MOVE BACK" "NO!" "OK THEN" "WARRGGGBLBLLL... ACK!"

Pepper spray. It freshens the breath, reduces plaque AND is fun at protests.

You're missing a big point though. Judge found her guilty of not obeying a lawful order from police. Thus, police are not liable for what happened.

It sucks, but you ARE trained to aim for the face. As it blinds you, and makes it rather uncomfortable to breathe, it tends to take the fight out of a person rather quickly. But wide open like that... damn, that had to suck.

ZAZ:An Occupy Portland protester who was blasted in the face with pepper spray was found guilty this week of ignoring police orders and will now have to pay a fine.

The judge had to find her guilty to protect police from her lawsuit.

Probably. Even if that wasn't the intent, it is the effect. Since the state has a higher burden of proof in a criminal matter than a civil, a finding that the police acted reasonably in some fashion would mean her suit is now dead in the water.

Shadowknight:SilentStrider: Great. And she can send the cop her hospital bill.

You're missing a big point though. Judge found her guilty of not obeying a lawful order from police. Thus, police are not liable for what happened.

It sucks, but you ARE trained to aim for the face. As it blinds you, and makes it rather uncomfortable to breathe, it tends to take the fight out of a person rather quickly. But wide open like that... damn, that had to suck.

Ruless 2 and 3 of the "Quick Silver" method: If a man cannot see, he cannot fight. If a man cannot breathe, he cannot fight.

gilgigamesh:ZAZ: An Occupy Portland protester who was blasted in the face with pepper spray was found guilty this week of ignoring police orders and will now have to pay a fine.

The judge had to find her guilty to protect police from her lawsuit.

Probably. Even if that wasn't the intent, it is the effect. Since the state has a higher burden of proof in a criminal matter than a civil, a finding that the police acted reasonably in some fashion would mean her suit is now dead in the water.

gilgigamesh:ZAZ: An Occupy Portland protester who was blasted in the face with pepper spray was found guilty this week of ignoring police orders and will now have to pay a fine.

The judge had to find her guilty to protect police from her lawsuit.

Probably. Even if that wasn't the intent, it is the effect. Since the state has a higher burden of proof in a criminal matter than a civil, a finding that the police acted reasonably in some fashion would mean her suit is now dead in the water.

The civil grievance of "excessive force" is not disproved by her conviction for failing to obey a lawful order. However, I don't think the force used will be found excessive.

She sued for excessive force? I think for an officer in riot gear, pepper spray is the least lethal weapon he had, because words have clearly failed.

Not trying to support the police or any corruption therein, just an opinion. She's lucky she got cheeto'd over beat with a baton or shot. Now if he'd knocked her down and sprayed her from a few inches away, I'd agree that's too far, as the stream from those canisters can pierce the skin or eye at that close.

Animatronik:Esn: For some reason, things like this never happened at the Tea Party rallies. I wonder why.

The Tea Partiers acted all hurt and oppressed, but they were never actually hurt or oppressed.

That's because they didn't fight with the police, get a mouthful of pepper spray, and a fine.

/I have no sympathy with angry rioters because you can hold peaceful demonstrations in the U.S. and we have free elections. If ppl really were oppressed here, it would be different.

What do you call this, then:"when Americans with different income levels differ in their policy preferences, actual policy outcomes strongly reflect the preferences of the most affluent but bear virtually no relationship to the preferences of poor or middle-income Americans."-Inequality and Democratic Responsiveness (2005 study by Martin Gilens from Oxford University)

If I remember correctly, the Occupy people made a point of being peaceful. It didn't help. They were harassed, infiltrated, and ultimately discredited.

The Tea Partiers were left alone because their interests coincided with those of the elite. They had the largest domestic news network promoting and helping them. OWS had... well, they had RT, I guess. Which counts for a little, but not that much.

The Occupy Movement makes the Powers-That-Be scared and when they get scared they send in their jackbooted thugs. Attack a bank? That's a beating. Exercise your right to protest? That's a beating. March peacefully in solidarity? That's a beating.

You know why the TEA PARTY didn't get the cops sicced on them because they <b>are</b> the Establishment. They are a front for the Koch Brothers, and are used to consolidate power for the right wing Capitalists.

Occupy is about Freedom. The Tea Party is about racism and crushing the working man.

That's why the unarmed woman in this picture is getting brutalized by the police in riot gear.

Ok, so let me get it straight...there's NOTHING wrong with the system or the government and these smelly hippies need to shut up (to hell with their rights under the 1st Amendment) and just DO WHAT THE GOVERNMENT/COPS SAY ... but the government is also oppressive and can't be trusted because they'll send the police and military after us any day now, so Tea Partiers need unlimited guns (2nd Amendment) to protect themselves from that same government....that they also protested against....but that they support when macing hippies....but don't trust.....but that doesn't mean the hippies are right....or something.