No Gordy, I wouldn't, but I hope they have the training if required to.

Remember, local police will always be in control and give the specialist teams authorisation to go in.

The teams are just the tool.

We have the various police forces for internal security and the armed forces for external. I have no probs with an ex SAS Colonel or two training police but they live by different rules. The armed forces should not be used internally except in a non military role, eg engineers.

The elephant at the cafe was the complete absence of psychology , communication , plan , responding to opportunity, negotiation , confidence building , subterfuge or anything beyond drinking coffee and waiting for deaths . Bullets were there by the bagful and aren't the problem. They get $millions and we got no bang for the buck until too late.

No Gordy, I wouldn't, but I hope they have the training if required to.

Remember, local police will always be in control and give the specialist teams authorisation to go in.

The teams are just the tool.

We have the various police forces for internal security and the armed forces for external. I have no probs with an ex SAS Colonel or two training police but they live by different rules. The armed forces should not be used internally except in a non military role, eg engineers.

Actually there had always been the capability to call in the army, a team was on standby for the Lindt siege but not called.

This is just formalising the relationship between the different organisations.

The army guys are the best of the best, I just see it as using the best tool for the job. Let them kick the doors down so long as local police call the shots.

Isn't that confusing the Siege of Lindt with the Siege of Mosul?The gunman was 1 man not the Vietcong .Maybe what's needed is another unit , a group of psychiatrist - psychologists and advertising men with a few clues about handling nut jobs and Islamic motives .

Anything to do with terrorism should me handled by the military. They are trained en masse for such things.

Specialist training for a select handful of police would never be enough.

Terrorism is not even police business. It's not civilian crime that is being anticipated, but military action from a political enemy.

During the invasion of Iraq our soldiers were 'advised' not to wear their uniforms in public because reports had come in saying that soldiers in uniform had been attacked in the streets by women wearing hijabs.

And what did the Australian authorities decide?

Arrest these bitches?

Hell no! That might offend the Muslim Community.

Far better to simply strip our soldiers of their uniforms when they were commuting between their barracks and home.

Isn't that confusing the Siege of Lindt with the Siege of Mosul?The gunman was 1 man not the Vietcong .Maybe what's needed is another unit , a group of psychiatrist - psychologists and advertising men with a few clues about handling nut jobs and Islamic motives .

Don't try to understand 'em just rope and throw and brand 'em. Soon we'll be ...

Cops get shot at by crims without it being "military" . The cafe had other bodies in it who needed protection , not the terrorist being protected . But even he could be manuevered by smart tactics . Without 3 deaths .

Anything to do with terrorism should me handled by the military. They are trained en masse for such things.

Specialist training for a select handful of police would never be enough.

Terrorism is not even police business. It's not civilian crime that is being anticipated, but military action from a political enemy.

During the invasion of Iraq our soldiers were 'advised' not to wear their uniforms in public because reports had come in saying that soldiers in uniform had been attacked in the streets by women wearing hijabs.

And what did the Australian authorities decide?

Arrest these bitches?

Hell no! That might offend the Muslim Community.

Far better to simply strip our soldiers of their uniforms when they were commuting between their barracks and home.