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The most worrying part of these 2 games for me is that we have lost against 2 teams that will probably be fighting against relegation next spring.

There can be no more excuses.... Good quality players are needed now. It's already 2 games too late in my opinion and tbh, we will finish bottom with this current crop. I don't blame the players as they are doing their best.... They're just not up to it though.

[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote:
The most worrying part of these 2 games for me is that we have lost against 2 teams that will probably be fighting against relegation next spring.
There can be no more excuses.... Good quality players are needed now. It's already 2 games too late in my opinion and tbh, we will finish bottom with this current crop. I don't blame the players as they are doing their best.... They're just not up to it though.
2012 v 2014
Kuz v Stockdale
Bruno v Calderon
Greer v Greer
Upson v Hughes
Bridge v Chickson
Bridcutt v Ince
Vicente v JFC
Orlandi v Lua Lua
Buckley v Bruno
Ulloa v O'grady
Barnes v CMS
Iwhat a massive step backwards[/p][/quote]We will be there with them!seagulls12

SMF20 wrote…

The most worrying part of these 2 games for me is that we have lost against 2 teams that will probably be fighting against relegation next spring.

There can be no more excuses.... Good quality players are needed now. It's already 2 games too late in my opinion and tbh, we will finish bottom with this current crop. I don't blame the players as they are doing their best.... They're just not up to it though.

Contary to some comments, our problems are not steming from upfront, we have a dire midfield that is causing us to be ineffective up front, so we dont really know what our strikers can acieve yet?

Caskey and Ince were very poor today and against Sheff Weds, Chicksen has a good brain but not yet the talent to match, Same for Fenelon really. We miss quality in the midfield and are relying on too many inexperienced youngsters that either cant cut it, or just are'nt ready.

Lua Lua, O'Grady and CMS particularly suffered today from the poor quality around them, we have no width unless Calderon comes forward, and Lua Lua gets dragged back into midfield too often to be dynamic out wide, as he tries to make up for that ineffective middle.

We wont win a game with this team, Caskey, and Ince need replacing for sure, they both look out of their depth, Chicksen and Fenelon are bench level at best, and overall we just have too much reliance on those sort of talents.

These first two games have been against very low to mediocre opposition that we would have slaughtered with last seasons team.. The first 10 games must secure at least 18 points to stay in contention, and I can't see us pulling in more than 4 or 5 points with the players we have available currently.

The suits need to wake up.

Contary to some comments, our problems are not steming from upfront, we have a dire midfield that is causing us to be ineffective up front, so we dont really know what our strikers can acieve yet?
Caskey and Ince were very poor today and against Sheff Weds, Chicksen has a good brain but not yet the talent to match, Same for Fenelon really. We miss quality in the midfield and are relying on too many inexperienced youngsters that either cant cut it, or just are'nt ready.
Lua Lua, O'Grady and CMS particularly suffered today from the poor quality around them, we have no width unless Calderon comes forward, and Lua Lua gets dragged back into midfield too often to be dynamic out wide, as he tries to make up for that ineffective middle.
We wont win a game with this team, Caskey, and Ince need replacing for sure, they both look out of their depth, Chicksen and Fenelon are bench level at best, and overall we just have too much reliance on those sort of talents.
These first two games have been against very low to mediocre opposition that we would have slaughtered with last seasons team.. The first 10 games must secure at least 18 points to stay in contention, and I can't see us pulling in more than 4 or 5 points with the players we have available currently.
The suits need to wake up.PressBoxTeaBoy

Contary to some comments, our problems are not steming from upfront, we have a dire midfield that is causing us to be ineffective up front, so we dont really know what our strikers can acieve yet?

Caskey and Ince were very poor today and against Sheff Weds, Chicksen has a good brain but not yet the talent to match, Same for Fenelon really. We miss quality in the midfield and are relying on too many inexperienced youngsters that either cant cut it, or just are'nt ready.

Lua Lua, O'Grady and CMS particularly suffered today from the poor quality around them, we have no width unless Calderon comes forward, and Lua Lua gets dragged back into midfield too often to be dynamic out wide, as he tries to make up for that ineffective middle.

We wont win a game with this team, Caskey, and Ince need replacing for sure, they both look out of their depth, Chicksen and Fenelon are bench level at best, and overall we just have too much reliance on those sort of talents.

These first two games have been against very low to mediocre opposition that we would have slaughtered with last seasons team.. The first 10 games must secure at least 18 points to stay in contention, and I can't see us pulling in more than 4 or 5 points with the players we have available currently.

The suits need to wake up.

Score: 22

Maddog Mc
5:14pm Sat 16 Aug 14

We didn't build a team pre-season and it shows. The Liverpool lad looked ok when he came on, a bit greedy maybe! Real lack of goal threat I am afraid. Hope Sami can turn it around with what looks like really limited resources for his sake and ours...

We didn't build a team pre-season and it shows. The Liverpool lad looked ok when he came on, a bit greedy maybe! Real lack of goal threat I am afraid. Hope Sami can turn it around with what looks like really limited resources for his sake and ours...Maddog Mc

We didn't build a team pre-season and it shows. The Liverpool lad looked ok when he came on, a bit greedy maybe! Real lack of goal threat I am afraid. Hope Sami can turn it around with what looks like really limited resources for his sake and ours...

Score: 12

FFPgull
5:41pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Glad I didn't go, gutted I got a season ticket this is the 4th year for me I won't go to another game if there's no good signings and we keep losing. TB has had too much of my money and not getting any more. It's not just the losing its lack of respect for us supporters who pay.

Glad I didn't go, gutted I got a season ticket this is the 4th year for me I won't go to another game if there's no good signings and we keep losing. TB has had too much of my money and not getting any more. It's not just the losing its lack of respect for us supporters who pay.FFPgull

Glad I didn't go, gutted I got a season ticket this is the 4th year for me I won't go to another game if there's no good signings and we keep losing. TB has had too much of my money and not getting any more. It's not just the losing its lack of respect for us supporters who pay.

Very poor, A lack of quality all over the pitch.
2 matches played against very poor opposition and no points.
Lose at Leeds on Tues and we are in big trouble.
Check the table - we are now the ONLY team in the Championship which hasn't scored a league goal this season. Massive deficiences up front.

Very poor, A lack of quality all over the pitch.
2 matches played against very poor opposition and no points.
Lose at Leeds on Tues and we are in big trouble.
Check the table - we are now the ONLY team in the Championship which hasn't scored a league goal this season. Massive deficiences up front.sussexram40

Very poor, A lack of quality all over the pitch.
2 matches played against very poor opposition and no points.
Lose at Leeds on Tues and we are in big trouble.
Check the table - we are now the ONLY team in the Championship which hasn't scored a league goal this season. Massive deficiences up front.

Score: -20

barnieb
5:04pm Sat 16 Aug 14

No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.

No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.barnieb

No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.

Score: 5

spaintospain
5:04pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Mr Burke please take note we are not stupid now do us all a favour and leave. we have bought no one of note stop saying we have bought in 5 when 3 are for the development squad . We made talk sport today they ask the question why is no one wanting to sign for us we know why it's called Burke . So not let this club slip down the div

Mr Burke please take note we are not stupid now do us all a favour and leave. we have bought no one of note stop saying we have bought in 5 when 3 are for the development squad . We made talk sport today they ask the question why is no one wanting to sign for us we know why it's called Burke . So not let this club slip down the divspaintospain

Mr Burke please take note we are not stupid now do us all a favour and leave. we have bought no one of note stop saying we have bought in 5 when 3 are for the development squad . We made talk sport today they ask the question why is no one wanting to sign for us we know why it's called Burke . So not let this club slip down the div

Score: 46

sjonesbb
5:04pm Sat 16 Aug 14

I feel sorry for Hyppia. He's gonna end up losing his job because our inability to deal in the transfer market!! Even the most die hard Albion optimist would have to say survival in the championship would be seen as a good season!! Bloom is a hero for getting us the facilities to be a premier league club. Burke needs to go!! Support the 'manager' let him bring in his own players. Were heading for a relegation battle with the crap that the board call quality signings ... I mean of O'Grady is a quality signing we are the proverbial creek without a paddle!!

I feel sorry for Hyppia. He's gonna end up losing his job because our inability to deal in the transfer market!! Even the most die hard Albion optimist would have to say survival in the championship would be seen as a good season!! Bloom is a hero for getting us the facilities to be a premier league club. Burke needs to go!! Support the 'manager' let him bring in his own players. Were heading for a relegation battle with the crap that the board call quality signings ... I mean of O'Grady is a quality signing we are the proverbial creek without a paddle!!sjonesbb

I feel sorry for Hyppia. He's gonna end up losing his job because our inability to deal in the transfer market!! Even the most die hard Albion optimist would have to say survival in the championship would be seen as a good season!! Bloom is a hero for getting us the facilities to be a premier league club. Burke needs to go!! Support the 'manager' let him bring in his own players. Were heading for a relegation battle with the crap that the board call quality signings ... I mean of O'Grady is a quality signing we are the proverbial creek without a paddle!!

Score: 62

john newman
5:05pm Sat 16 Aug 14

This is starting to look very worrying. At least Ulloa proved he could score in higher company if only he had more help last season.

This is starting to look very worrying. At least Ulloa proved he could score in higher company if only he had more help last season.john newman

This is starting to look very worrying. At least Ulloa proved he could score in higher company if only he had more help last season.

Score: 26

Alfie T
5:05pm Sat 16 Aug 14

barnieb wrote…

No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.

Bye then.

[quote][p][bold]barnieb[/bold] wrote:
No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.[/p][/quote]Bye then.Alfie T

barnieb wrote…

No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.

Bye then.

Score: -3

ringtone
5:07pm Sat 16 Aug 14

barnieb wrote…

No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.

Well said mate.

The club rely on the mugs who keep going regardless, and i am not including Vegas, Arnie and Singing seagull indonesia cos they are the clever ones, they dont go,ever!

[quote][p][bold]barnieb[/bold] wrote:
No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.[/p][/quote]Well said mate.
The club rely on the mugs who keep going regardless, and i am not including Vegas, Arnie and Singing seagull indonesia cos they are the clever ones, they dont go,ever!ringtone

barnieb wrote…

No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.

Well said mate.

The club rely on the mugs who keep going regardless, and i am not including Vegas, Arnie and Singing seagull indonesia cos they are the clever ones, they dont go,ever!

Score: -2

namgo49
5:26pm Sat 16 Aug 14

raymondo999 wrote…

barnieb wrote…

No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.

'Long suffering'? When you give up after two games. The Albion are always up and down, get used to it.

Sorry fella you are deluding yourself this time around

[quote][p][bold]raymondo999[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]barnieb[/bold] wrote:
No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.[/p][/quote]'Long suffering'? When you give up after two games. The Albion are always up and down, get used to it.[/p][/quote]Sorry fella you are deluding yourself this time aroundnamgo49

raymondo999 wrote…

barnieb wrote…

No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.

'Long suffering'? When you give up after two games. The Albion are always up and down, get used to it.

Sorry fella you are deluding yourself this time around

Score: 11

raymondo999
5:10pm Sat 16 Aug 14

barnieb wrote…

No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.

'Long suffering'? When you give up after two games. The Albion are always up and down, get used to it.

[quote][p][bold]barnieb[/bold] wrote:
No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.[/p][/quote]'Long suffering'? When you give up after two games. The Albion are always up and down, get used to it.raymondo999

barnieb wrote…

No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.

'Long suffering'? When you give up after two games. The Albion are always up and down, get used to it.

Score: 11

namgo49
5:11pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Predictable outcome. Opposition one chance, one goal, we can't buy a goal and the only one likely to get one is substituted by one of our DS stars.

Lualua started and predictably had a poor game. The fashion model JFC got mentioned twice in the 2nd half commentary yet stayed on the park.

Leeds in the week which will see another 1-0 defeat and set things up nicely for a low turnout against Bolton and another 1-0 defeat.

Frenzied activity on the loan market in the final week of the month. Agents feeding frenzy, 3 or 4 average players signed again at enormous expense. Anyone who thinks a loan signing costs nothing is sadly mistaken. Proportionately they cost loads!!

Predictable outcome. Opposition one chance, one goal, we can't buy a goal and the only one likely to get one is substituted by one of our DS stars.
Lualua started and predictably had a poor game. The fashion model JFC got mentioned twice in the 2nd half commentary yet stayed on the park.
Leeds in the week which will see another 1-0 defeat and set things up nicely for a low turnout against Bolton and another 1-0 defeat.
Frenzied activity on the loan market in the final week of the month. Agents feeding frenzy, 3 or 4 average players signed again at enormous expense. Anyone who thinks a loan signing costs nothing is sadly mistaken. Proportionately they cost loads!!namgo49

Predictable outcome. Opposition one chance, one goal, we can't buy a goal and the only one likely to get one is substituted by one of our DS stars.

Lualua started and predictably had a poor game. The fashion model JFC got mentioned twice in the 2nd half commentary yet stayed on the park.

Leeds in the week which will see another 1-0 defeat and set things up nicely for a low turnout against Bolton and another 1-0 defeat.

Frenzied activity on the loan market in the final week of the month. Agents feeding frenzy, 3 or 4 average players signed again at enormous expense. Anyone who thinks a loan signing costs nothing is sadly mistaken. Proportionately they cost loads!!

Score: 20

Neville
5:24pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Two defeats against relegation material teams, poor defence,no pace,and no quality ball in the last third,same as usual.
The board should hang theirs heads in shame with the fiasco that has taken place over the past few months.
Fat too late again to play catch up.

Two defeats against relegation material teams, poor defence,no pace,and no quality ball in the last third,same as usual.
The board should hang theirs heads in shame with the fiasco that has taken place over the past few months.
Fat too late again to play catch up.Neville

Two defeats against relegation material teams, poor defence,no pace,and no quality ball in the last third,same as usual.
The board should hang theirs heads in shame with the fiasco that has taken place over the past few months.
Fat too late again to play catch up.

Score: -4

BHARYE
5:16pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Nice of hypia to give us a clap after the game... Didn't even look at us. And he's body language told me he didn't even want to be there any

Nice of hypia to give us a clap after the game... Didn't even look at us. And he's body language told me he didn't even want to be there anyBHARYE

Nice of hypia to give us a clap after the game... Didn't even look at us. And he's body language told me he didn't even want to be there any

No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.

See ya!

[quote][p][bold]barnieb[/bold] wrote:
No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.[/p][/quote]See ya!Hugothepug

barnieb wrote…

No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.

See ya!

Score: -12

To baldly go
5:18pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Can the manager turn this crisis around? Can the squad turn this around?
It's a big no on the first account imo, Hyppia's devoid of the knowledge to get the tactics right. The squad, if played to its strengths might have a chance.
However, Bloom has the power to change things, and to do it he only has to get rid of 2 pratt's, Burke and Barber! Then some investment in the squad might just preserve our championship status, if not div 1 here we come!

Can the manager turn this crisis around? Can the squad turn this around?
It's a big no on the first account imo, Hyppia's devoid of the knowledge to get the tactics right. The squad, if played to its strengths might have a chance.
However, Bloom has the power to change things, and to do it he only has to get rid of 2 pratt's, Burke and Barber! Then some investment in the squad might just preserve our championship status, if not div 1 here we come!To baldly go

Can the manager turn this crisis around? Can the squad turn this around?
It's a big no on the first account imo, Hyppia's devoid of the knowledge to get the tactics right. The squad, if played to its strengths might have a chance.
However, Bloom has the power to change things, and to do it he only has to get rid of 2 pratt's, Burke and Barber! Then some investment in the squad might just preserve our championship status, if not div 1 here we come!

Score: 29

sussexram40
5:20pm Sat 16 Aug 14

That was Birmingham's FIRST home win for 10 months.
Their last home win was 5 Oct 2013.

That was Birmingham's FIRST home win for 10 months.
Their last home win was 5 Oct 2013.sussexram40

That was Birmingham's FIRST home win for 10 months.
Their last home win was 5 Oct 2013.

Score: 11

impose our game gull
5:20pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Maddog Mc wrote…

We didn't build a team pre-season and it shows. The Liverpool lad looked ok when he came on, a bit greedy maybe! Real lack of goal threat I am afraid. Hope Sami can turn it around with what looks like really limited resources for his sake and ours...

Fine with "a bit greedy" on occasion with ability.

3 shots on target .... one of them meaningful. Our inability to get shots on target when one down is a concern.

That said we still have 14 days to go in the transfer window and those we buy in will have gelled by October leaving the main bulk of the season still to play....!!??

SPEND THE £14 million we've had from selling many of our top, game swinging players!!

UTA!!

[quote][p][bold]Maddog Mc[/bold] wrote:
We didn't build a team pre-season and it shows. The Liverpool lad looked ok when he came on, a bit greedy maybe! Real lack of goal threat I am afraid. Hope Sami can turn it around with what looks like really limited resources for his sake and ours...[/p][/quote]Fine with "a bit greedy" on occasion with ability.
3 shots on target .... one of them meaningful. Our inability to get shots on target when one down is a concern.
That said we still have 14 days to go in the transfer window and those we buy in will have gelled by October leaving the main bulk of the season still to play....!!??
SPEND THE £14 million we've had from selling many of our top, game swinging players!!
UTA!!impose our game gull

Maddog Mc wrote…

We didn't build a team pre-season and it shows. The Liverpool lad looked ok when he came on, a bit greedy maybe! Real lack of goal threat I am afraid. Hope Sami can turn it around with what looks like really limited resources for his sake and ours...

Fine with "a bit greedy" on occasion with ability.

3 shots on target .... one of them meaningful. Our inability to get shots on target when one down is a concern.

That said we still have 14 days to go in the transfer window and those we buy in will have gelled by October leaving the main bulk of the season still to play....!!??

SPEND THE £14 million we've had from selling many of our top, game swinging players!!

UTA!!

Score: 0

Seagulldan
5:21pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Cee uou next tuesday hyppia!

Cee uou next tuesday hyppia!Seagulldan

Cee uou next tuesday hyppia!

Score: -6

Claude Back
5:23pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Birmingham are one of the worst sides in this Division and their manager is a nice bloke but useless. The fact we could not get some sort of result against them does not auger well.
Sorry, did I say Birmingham? I meant another team beginning with 'B'. Name escapes me for a moment. ;-)

Birmingham are one of the worst sides in this Division and their manager is a nice bloke but useless. The fact we could not get some sort of result against them does not auger well.
Sorry, did I say Birmingham? I meant another team beginning with 'B'. Name escapes me for a moment. ;-)Claude Back

Birmingham are one of the worst sides in this Division and their manager is a nice bloke but useless. The fact we could not get some sort of result against them does not auger well.
Sorry, did I say Birmingham? I meant another team beginning with 'B'. Name escapes me for a moment. ;-)

Score: 10

SMF20
5:27pm Sat 16 Aug 14

The most worrying part of these 2 games for me is that we have lost against 2 teams that will probably be fighting against relegation next spring.

There can be no more excuses.... Good quality players are needed now. It's already 2 games too late in my opinion and tbh, we will finish bottom with this current crop. I don't blame the players as they are doing their best.... They're just not up to it though.

The most worrying part of these 2 games for me is that we have lost against 2 teams that will probably be fighting against relegation next spring.
There can be no more excuses.... Good quality players are needed now. It's already 2 games too late in my opinion and tbh, we will finish bottom with this current crop. I don't blame the players as they are doing their best.... They're just not up to it though.
2012 v 2014
Kuz v Stockdale
Bruno v Calderon
Greer v Greer
Upson v Hughes
Bridge v Chickson
Bridcutt v Ince
Vicente v JFC
Orlandi v Lua Lua
Buckley v Bruno
Ulloa v O'grady
Barnes v CMS
Iwhat a massive step backwardsSMF20

The most worrying part of these 2 games for me is that we have lost against 2 teams that will probably be fighting against relegation next spring.

There can be no more excuses.... Good quality players are needed now. It's already 2 games too late in my opinion and tbh, we will finish bottom with this current crop. I don't blame the players as they are doing their best.... They're just not up to it though.

Trouble is tactics. One nil down, don't take the 2 most creative players off. Take jfc off and put new lad on. Make the team more likely to score, not less likely.

Trouble is tactics. One nil down, don't take the 2 most creative players off. Take jfc off and put new lad on. Make the team more likely to score, not less likely.CiderBaz

Trouble is tactics. One nil down, don't take the 2 most creative players off. Take jfc off and put new lad on. Make the team more likely to score, not less likely.

Score: 20

Kit Napier's Beard
5:28pm Sat 16 Aug 14

sussexram40 wrote…

Very poor, A lack of quality all over the pitch.
2 matches played against very poor opposition and no points.
Lose at Leeds on Tues and we are in big trouble.
Check the table - we are now the ONLY team in the Championship which hasn't scored a league goal this season. Massive deficiences up front.

Anybody found the panic button yet? Two games that we would have won easily in the past, but no goals and no prospect of them. First priority a big marquee centre forward and URGENTLY Mr Burke

[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote:
Very poor, A lack of quality all over the pitch.
2 matches played against very poor opposition and no points.
Lose at Leeds on Tues and we are in big trouble.
Check the table - we are now the ONLY team in the Championship which hasn't scored a league goal this season. Massive deficiences up front.[/p][/quote]Anybody found the panic button yet? Two games that we would have won easily in the past, but no goals and no prospect of them. First priority a big marquee centre forward and URGENTLY Mr BurkeKit Napier's Beard

sussexram40 wrote…

Very poor, A lack of quality all over the pitch.
2 matches played against very poor opposition and no points.
Lose at Leeds on Tues and we are in big trouble.
Check the table - we are now the ONLY team in the Championship which hasn't scored a league goal this season. Massive deficiences up front.

Anybody found the panic button yet? Two games that we would have won easily in the past, but no goals and no prospect of them. First priority a big marquee centre forward and URGENTLY Mr Burke

Score: 27

shotseagull
5:29pm Sat 16 Aug 14

we have lost against 2 sides we should sweep aside very poor again

we have lost against 2 sides we should sweep aside very poor againshotseagull

we have lost against 2 sides we should sweep aside very poor again

Score: 19

Albion In Staffs
5:29pm Sat 16 Aug 14

It's all ok, apparently we'l be happy with the squad come the end of August.. By which time we'll have played another three matches.
Please don't blame Hyypia, ask yourself what would Gus do with this lot? Don't get me wrong, Gus isn't/wasn't the messiah, but the recent benchmark and I feel sorry for Hyppia. Sold a pup.

It's all ok, apparently we'l be happy with the squad come the end of August.. By which time we'll have played another three matches.
Please don't blame Hyypia, ask yourself what would Gus do with this lot? Don't get me wrong, Gus isn't/wasn't the messiah, but the recent benchmark and I feel sorry for Hyppia. Sold a pup.Albion In Staffs

It's all ok, apparently we'l be happy with the squad come the end of August.. By which time we'll have played another three matches.
Please don't blame Hyypia, ask yourself what would Gus do with this lot? Don't get me wrong, Gus isn't/wasn't the messiah, but the recent benchmark and I feel sorry for Hyppia. Sold a pup.

Score: 31

Opppsss!!!
5:29pm Sat 16 Aug 14

So may be now Burke and Barber will do the honourable thing and both resign before it becomes a ? No Points, No Goals, and we don't look like scoring? This is a bloody Joke, we are expected to turn up week in week out and pay our hard earn't cash to watch a second rate team going downwards not upwards, and to top the food is **** so come on TB we have faith in you sack these Bloody clowns and get behind Sami and give him the quality support he needs otherwise we are going to be a laughing stock, and that's a position I'm not at all happy to think about Im feed with failed promises, I now demand action, and as they say ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS!! rep and sow!!

So may be now Burke and Barber will do the honourable thing and both resign before it becomes a ? No Points, No Goals, and we don't look like scoring? This is a bloody Joke, we are expected to turn up week in week out and pay our hard earn't cash to watch a second rate team going downwards not upwards, and to top the food is **** so come on TB we have faith in you sack these Bloody clowns and get behind Sami and give him the quality support he needs otherwise we are going to be a laughing stock, and that's a position I'm not at all happy to think about Im feed with failed promises, I now demand action, and as they say ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS!! rep and sow!!Opppsss!!!

So may be now Burke and Barber will do the honourable thing and both resign before it becomes a ? No Points, No Goals, and we don't look like scoring? This is a bloody Joke, we are expected to turn up week in week out and pay our hard earn't cash to watch a second rate team going downwards not upwards, and to top the food is **** so come on TB we have faith in you sack these Bloody clowns and get behind Sami and give him the quality support he needs otherwise we are going to be a laughing stock, and that's a position I'm not at all happy to think about Im feed with failed promises, I now demand action, and as they say ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS!! rep and sow!!

Score: 23

mark by the sea
5:34pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Leeds will give us a good game Tuesday , they have some decent quality in a side built in 3-4 weeks,
I can't be bothered mentioning today , I listened to half hour and we can't keep the ball, we can't pass the ball and we can't score, add those three ingredients and we are a poor side.
I believe we need 5 players of quality , not journeymen.

Leeds will give us a good game Tuesday , they have some decent quality in a side built in 3-4 weeks,
I can't be bothered mentioning today , I listened to half hour and we can't keep the ball, we can't pass the ball and we can't score, add those three ingredients and we are a poor side.
I believe we need 5 players of quality , not journeymen.mark by the sea

Leeds will give us a good game Tuesday , they have some decent quality in a side built in 3-4 weeks,
I can't be bothered mentioning today , I listened to half hour and we can't keep the ball, we can't pass the ball and we can't score, add those three ingredients and we are a poor side.
I believe we need 5 players of quality , not journeymen.

Score: 24

Please wake up
5:56pm Sat 16 Aug 14

ringtone wrote…

barnieb wrote…

No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.

Well said mate.

The club rely on the mugs who keep going regardless, and i am not including Vegas, Arnie and Singing seagull indonesia cos they are the clever ones, they dont go,ever!

Great post the Dunk family now also has full control of BBC Sussex also.All national press said Grant Hall was outstanding today.Dunk & JFC now both have 4 year deals which will mean they will both walk away with 2 million each free money by the end.

[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]barnieb[/bold] wrote:
No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.[/p][/quote]Well said mate.
The club rely on the mugs who keep going regardless, and i am not including Vegas, Arnie and Singing seagull indonesia cos they are the clever ones, they dont go,ever![/p][/quote]Great post the Dunk family now also has full control of BBC Sussex also.All national press said Grant Hall was outstanding today.Dunk & JFC now both have 4 year deals which will mean they will both walk away with 2 million each free money by the end.Please wake up

ringtone wrote…

barnieb wrote…

No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.

Well said mate.

The club rely on the mugs who keep going regardless, and i am not including Vegas, Arnie and Singing seagull indonesia cos they are the clever ones, they dont go,ever!

Great post the Dunk family now also has full control of BBC Sussex also.All national press said Grant Hall was outstanding today.Dunk & JFC now both have 4 year deals which will mean they will both walk away with 2 million each free money by the end.

Score: -7

OscarGarcia
5:36pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Think our disabled team could do better at the moment, maybe get more movement upfront then Chris O Grady

Think our disabled team could do better at the moment, maybe get more movement upfront then Chris O GradyOscarGarcia

Think our disabled team could do better at the moment, maybe get more movement upfront then Chris O Grady

Score: -4

Albion In Staffs
5:38pm Sat 16 Aug 14

PressBoxTeaBoy wrote…

Contary to some comments, our problems are not steming from upfront, we have a dire midfield that is causing us to be ineffective up front, so we dont really know what our strikers can acieve yet?

Caskey and Ince were very poor today and against Sheff Weds, Chicksen has a good brain but not yet the talent to match, Same for Fenelon really. We miss quality in the midfield and are relying on too many inexperienced youngsters that either cant cut it, or just are'nt ready.

Lua Lua, O'Grady and CMS particularly suffered today from the poor quality around them, we have no width unless Calderon comes forward, and Lua Lua gets dragged back into midfield too often to be dynamic out wide, as he tries to make up for that ineffective middle.

We wont win a game with this team, Caskey, and Ince need replacing for sure, they both look out of their depth, Chicksen and Fenelon are bench level at best, and overall we just have too much reliance on those sort of talents.

These first two games have been against very low to mediocre opposition that we would have slaughtered with last seasons team.. The first 10 games must secure at least 18 points to stay in contention, and I can't see us pulling in more than 4 or 5 points with the players we have available currently.

The suits need to wake up.

Yep. In a progressive, promotion seeking team, the four you mention, JFC, Ince, Chicksen and Fenelon would be used as occasional subs to gain experience. We're having to throw them in as starters because there are no options.
Great planning by our 'Premier League ready' administration. but, as said just bow, we'll all be happy with the squad by the end of the window.
Apparently.
Can see SH chucking it.

[quote][p][bold]PressBoxTeaBoy[/bold] wrote:
Contary to some comments, our problems are not steming from upfront, we have a dire midfield that is causing us to be ineffective up front, so we dont really know what our strikers can acieve yet?
Caskey and Ince were very poor today and against Sheff Weds, Chicksen has a good brain but not yet the talent to match, Same for Fenelon really. We miss quality in the midfield and are relying on too many inexperienced youngsters that either cant cut it, or just are'nt ready.
Lua Lua, O'Grady and CMS particularly suffered today from the poor quality around them, we have no width unless Calderon comes forward, and Lua Lua gets dragged back into midfield too often to be dynamic out wide, as he tries to make up for that ineffective middle.
We wont win a game with this team, Caskey, and Ince need replacing for sure, they both look out of their depth, Chicksen and Fenelon are bench level at best, and overall we just have too much reliance on those sort of talents.
These first two games have been against very low to mediocre opposition that we would have slaughtered with last seasons team.. The first 10 games must secure at least 18 points to stay in contention, and I can't see us pulling in more than 4 or 5 points with the players we have available currently.
The suits need to wake up.[/p][/quote]Yep. In a progressive, promotion seeking team, the four you mention, JFC, Ince, Chicksen and Fenelon would be used as occasional subs to gain experience. We're having to throw them in as starters because there are no options.
Great planning by our 'Premier League ready' administration. but, as said just bow, we'll all be happy with the squad by the end of the window.
Apparently.
Can see SH chucking it.Albion In Staffs

PressBoxTeaBoy wrote…

Contary to some comments, our problems are not steming from upfront, we have a dire midfield that is causing us to be ineffective up front, so we dont really know what our strikers can acieve yet?

Caskey and Ince were very poor today and against Sheff Weds, Chicksen has a good brain but not yet the talent to match, Same for Fenelon really. We miss quality in the midfield and are relying on too many inexperienced youngsters that either cant cut it, or just are'nt ready.

Lua Lua, O'Grady and CMS particularly suffered today from the poor quality around them, we have no width unless Calderon comes forward, and Lua Lua gets dragged back into midfield too often to be dynamic out wide, as he tries to make up for that ineffective middle.

We wont win a game with this team, Caskey, and Ince need replacing for sure, they both look out of their depth, Chicksen and Fenelon are bench level at best, and overall we just have too much reliance on those sort of talents.

These first two games have been against very low to mediocre opposition that we would have slaughtered with last seasons team.. The first 10 games must secure at least 18 points to stay in contention, and I can't see us pulling in more than 4 or 5 points with the players we have available currently.

The suits need to wake up.

Yep. In a progressive, promotion seeking team, the four you mention, JFC, Ince, Chicksen and Fenelon would be used as occasional subs to gain experience. We're having to throw them in as starters because there are no options.
Great planning by our 'Premier League ready' administration. but, as said just bow, we'll all be happy with the squad by the end of the window.
Apparently.
Can see SH chucking it.

Score: 28

bhapilar
5:38pm Sat 16 Aug 14

I can't see any way this squad can achieve better than mid table this season. No attacking options, no midfield flair. The indication is that the management are happy to settle for consolidation this year. Last season was the time to build and support but as this not forthcoming and this pre-season clear-out, we need a more than just a couple of players here & there. We need a team & a bench with some depth of experience.
Sami... sorry about this !!

I can't see any way this squad can achieve better than mid table this season. No attacking options, no midfield flair. The indication is that the management are happy to settle for consolidation this year. Last season was the time to build and support but as this not forthcoming and this pre-season clear-out, we need a more than just a couple of players here & there. We need a team & a bench with some depth of experience.
Sami... sorry about this !!bhapilar

I can't see any way this squad can achieve better than mid table this season. No attacking options, no midfield flair. The indication is that the management are happy to settle for consolidation this year. Last season was the time to build and support but as this not forthcoming and this pre-season clear-out, we need a more than just a couple of players here & there. We need a team & a bench with some depth of experience.
Sami... sorry about this !!

Score: 15

raymondo999
5:39pm Sat 16 Aug 14

namgo49 wrote…

raymondo999 wrote…

barnieb wrote…

No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.

'Long suffering'? When you give up after two games. The Albion are always up and down, get used to it.

Sorry fella you are deluding yourself this time around

All I'm saying is there are always ups and downs. I've been following the Albion for 40 years and it's been a roller coaster. Looks like we might be on a down slope at the moment, that's football. Luckily I don't have enough money to buy two season tickets and throw them away.

[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]raymondo999[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]barnieb[/bold] wrote:
No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.[/p][/quote]'Long suffering'? When you give up after two games. The Albion are always up and down, get used to it.[/p][/quote]Sorry fella you are deluding yourself this time around[/p][/quote]All I'm saying is there are always ups and downs. I've been following the Albion for 40 years and it's been a roller coaster. Looks like we might be on a down slope at the moment, that's football. Luckily I don't have enough money to buy two season tickets and throw them away.raymondo999

namgo49 wrote…

raymondo999 wrote…

barnieb wrote…

No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.

'Long suffering'? When you give up after two games. The Albion are always up and down, get used to it.

Sorry fella you are deluding yourself this time around

All I'm saying is there are always ups and downs. I've been following the Albion for 40 years and it's been a roller coaster. Looks like we might be on a down slope at the moment, that's football. Luckily I don't have enough money to buy two season tickets and throw them away.

Score: -2

sussexram40
5:41pm Sat 16 Aug 14

If we lose at Leeds in the week then I think we need to think seriously about staging a fans protest at the Amex next Saturday. This will require banners and chants demanding that Burke and Barber go.

If 20,000 people are chanting "Burke, Barber .. Out! Out! Out!" throughout the match it will have some impact.

If we lose at Leeds in the week then I think we need to think seriously about staging a fans protest at the Amex next Saturday. This will require banners and chants demanding that Burke and Barber go.
If 20,000 people are chanting "Burke, Barber .. Out! Out! Out!" throughout the match it will have some impact.sussexram40

If we lose at Leeds in the week then I think we need to think seriously about staging a fans protest at the Amex next Saturday. This will require banners and chants demanding that Burke and Barber go.

If 20,000 people are chanting "Burke, Barber .. Out! Out! Out!" throughout the match it will have some impact.

Score: 10

daveyboy35
5:42pm Sat 16 Aug 14

We might not have a great team but it's still up to the manager to get something out of them!!! And manager that perseveres with agustien and puts Bruno in midfield is in my eyes clueless! He does **** all from the side to get them going! And don't even get me started on blooms **** jones!!!!!

We might not have a great team but it's still up to the manager to get something out of them!!! And manager that perseveres with agustien and puts Bruno in midfield is in my eyes clueless! He does **** all from the side to get them going! And don't even get me started on blooms **** jones!!!!!daveyboy35

We might not have a great team but it's still up to the manager to get something out of them!!! And manager that perseveres with agustien and puts Bruno in midfield is in my eyes clueless! He does **** all from the side to get them going! And don't even get me started on blooms **** jones!!!!!

Score: 9

Albion In Staffs
5:44pm Sat 16 Aug 14

daveyboy35 wrote…

We might not have a great team but it's still up to the manager to get something out of them!!! And manager that perseveres with agustien and puts Bruno in midfield is in my eyes clueless! He does **** all from the side to get them going! And don't even get me started on blooms **** jones!!!!!

In terms of team selection, what alternatives does he have?

[quote][p][bold]daveyboy35[/bold] wrote:
We might not have a great team but it's still up to the manager to get something out of them!!! And manager that perseveres with agustien and puts Bruno in midfield is in my eyes clueless! He does **** all from the side to get them going! And don't even get me started on blooms **** jones!!!!![/p][/quote]In terms of team selection, what alternatives does he have?Albion In Staffs

daveyboy35 wrote…

We might not have a great team but it's still up to the manager to get something out of them!!! And manager that perseveres with agustien and puts Bruno in midfield is in my eyes clueless! He does **** all from the side to get them going! And don't even get me started on blooms **** jones!!!!!

In terms of team selection, what alternatives does he have?

Score: 6

Phillip Smith
5:46pm Sat 16 Aug 14

don't worry everyone as we will have a competitive squad by the end of August. by which time ten per cent of the season is already over and we will be playing catch up for the rest of the year.

don't worry everyone as we will have a competitive squad by the end of August. by which time ten per cent of the season is already over and we will be playing catch up for the rest of the year.Phillip Smith

don't worry everyone as we will have a competitive squad by the end of August. by which time ten per cent of the season is already over and we will be playing catch up for the rest of the year.

Score: 13

O'Grady says
5:47pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Put your hands on your head if you saw this coming! >50% of fans in the pre-match poll predicted defeat and most must be feeling despair at the parlous state of affairs. The team sheet screamed inadequacies in midfield and so it proved. The bottom three in the Championship all have serious problems. Let's hope Bloom opens the chequebook pdq otherwise the malaise that is currently undermining the morale of players and fans will surely deter other players signing for the club. Will Hyypia still be at the helm by Christmas?

Put your hands on your head if you saw this coming! >50% of fans in the pre-match poll predicted defeat and most must be feeling despair at the parlous state of affairs. The team sheet screamed inadequacies in midfield and so it proved. The bottom three in the Championship all have serious problems. Let's hope Bloom opens the chequebook pdq otherwise the malaise that is currently undermining the morale of players and fans will surely deter other players signing for the club. Will Hyypia still be at the helm by Christmas?O'Grady says

Put your hands on your head if you saw this coming! >50% of fans in the pre-match poll predicted defeat and most must be feeling despair at the parlous state of affairs. The team sheet screamed inadequacies in midfield and so it proved. The bottom three in the Championship all have serious problems. Let's hope Bloom opens the chequebook pdq otherwise the malaise that is currently undermining the morale of players and fans will surely deter other players signing for the club. Will Hyypia still be at the helm by Christmas?

Score: 17

kwaidam
5:53pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Premier League Ready..... ha.....
Burke, Barber and soon-to-be-manager Jones are planning for the play-off push... The League One play-offs in 2016.

Premier League Ready..... ha.....
Burke, Barber and soon-to-be-manager Jones are planning for the play-off push... The League One play-offs in 2016.kwaidam

Premier League Ready..... ha.....
Burke, Barber and soon-to-be-manager Jones are planning for the play-off push... The League One play-offs in 2016.

Score: 11

tug509
5:51pm Sat 16 Aug 14

We all know the problem = Lack of quality players
We all know the remedy = Sign some quality players
We all know who has that job DB , is he doing it = NO
We all know who could do that job SH , is he = NO
Why isn`t he = because that's what TB employed DB and PB to do
Why havn`t they done that job = because they are totally inept
Should incompetent people be working for our club = NO
Can it be turned around = possibly ,but not by DB and PB
Can SH turn it around = possibly if he is backed to the hilt .

TB PROMISED us a competitive squad ,one we would be happy with by close of the TW ,do I believe him , at the moment NO
Is TB going to talk to us = NO . We had our well versed "Forum"
Explain the situation = NO . It seems he feels there isn`t a need
Are we going to get the players promised , 5 or 6 decent quality replacements , and not just loans = almost certainly NO .

We all know this is now beyond the joke ,there will inevitably be a few who will somehow find a way to defend this fiasco ,usually with stats or comparisons ,or remember how far we have come ,well I do ,and that's how far we can fall . None of us know the reasons for the current situation ,because no bugger is talking ,but one way or the other , leaving your acquisitions until 6 games into a season is surely incompetence in anyones book . If anyone on this site believes this is general practice ,then I for one have never heard of it . ALBION TIL I DIE

We all know the problem = Lack of quality players
We all know the remedy = Sign some quality players
We all know who has that job DB , is he doing it = NO
We all know who could do that job SH , is he = NO
Why isn`t he = because that's what TB employed DB and PB to do
Why havn`t they done that job = because they are totally inept
Should incompetent people be working for our club = NO
Can it be turned around = possibly ,but not by DB and PB
Can SH turn it around = possibly if he is backed to the hilt .
TB PROMISED us a competitive squad ,one we would be happy with by close of the TW ,do I believe him , at the moment NO
Is TB going to talk to us = NO . We had our well versed "Forum"
Explain the situation = NO . It seems he feels there isn`t a need
Are we going to get the players promised , 5 or 6 decent quality replacements , and not just loans = almost certainly NO .
We all know this is now beyond the joke ,there will inevitably be a few who will somehow find a way to defend this fiasco ,usually with stats or comparisons ,or remember how far we have come ,well I do ,and that's how far we can fall . None of us know the reasons for the current situation ,because no bugger is talking ,but one way or the other , leaving your acquisitions until 6 games into a season is surely incompetence in anyones book . If anyone on this site believes this is general practice ,then I for one have never heard of it . ALBION TIL I DIEtug509

We all know the problem = Lack of quality players
We all know the remedy = Sign some quality players
We all know who has that job DB , is he doing it = NO
We all know who could do that job SH , is he = NO
Why isn`t he = because that's what TB employed DB and PB to do
Why havn`t they done that job = because they are totally inept
Should incompetent people be working for our club = NO
Can it be turned around = possibly ,but not by DB and PB
Can SH turn it around = possibly if he is backed to the hilt .

TB PROMISED us a competitive squad ,one we would be happy with by close of the TW ,do I believe him , at the moment NO
Is TB going to talk to us = NO . We had our well versed "Forum"
Explain the situation = NO . It seems he feels there isn`t a need
Are we going to get the players promised , 5 or 6 decent quality replacements , and not just loans = almost certainly NO .

We all know this is now beyond the joke ,there will inevitably be a few who will somehow find a way to defend this fiasco ,usually with stats or comparisons ,or remember how far we have come ,well I do ,and that's how far we can fall . None of us know the reasons for the current situation ,because no bugger is talking ,but one way or the other , leaving your acquisitions until 6 games into a season is surely incompetence in anyones book . If anyone on this site believes this is general practice ,then I for one have never heard of it . ALBION TIL I DIE

Score: 23

To baldly go
5:51pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Hyppia lost 11 out of 12 games before BL got rid of him, how long is Bloom going to give him? How long before Hyppia jumps before he is pushed? Dare I say it, we need to do a palarse and get in a Pulis type manager before it's to late, even 2 games into the season!
We need virtually a whole team looking at what's going on imo.
Look who has gone in recent years, most of them still playing and quite a few in the prem! Kuszczak, Upson, Bridge, Ward, Cook, Elphick, Vicente, Orlandi, Ulloa, Buckley, Bridcutt, Noone, Barnes, Murray, Wood, Bennett, Vokes, Lingard, Zamora, imagine if we had kept half of them! The money in the bank is fine, but it will soon devalue when gates drop and you have to break into it to cover costs! Wake up before it's to late.

Hyppia lost 11 out of 12 games before BL got rid of him, how long is Bloom going to give him? How long before Hyppia jumps before he is pushed? Dare I say it, we need to do a palarse and get in a Pulis type manager before it's to late, even 2 games into the season!
We need virtually a whole team looking at what's going on imo.
Look who has gone in recent years, most of them still playing and quite a few in the prem! Kuszczak, Upson, Bridge, Ward, Cook, Elphick, Vicente, Orlandi, Ulloa, Buckley, Bridcutt, Noone, Barnes, Murray, Wood, Bennett, Vokes, Lingard, Zamora, imagine if we had kept half of them! The money in the bank is fine, but it will soon devalue when gates drop and you have to break into it to cover costs! Wake up before it's to late.To baldly go

Hyppia lost 11 out of 12 games before BL got rid of him, how long is Bloom going to give him? How long before Hyppia jumps before he is pushed? Dare I say it, we need to do a palarse and get in a Pulis type manager before it's to late, even 2 games into the season!
We need virtually a whole team looking at what's going on imo.
Look who has gone in recent years, most of them still playing and quite a few in the prem! Kuszczak, Upson, Bridge, Ward, Cook, Elphick, Vicente, Orlandi, Ulloa, Buckley, Bridcutt, Noone, Barnes, Murray, Wood, Bennett, Vokes, Lingard, Zamora, imagine if we had kept half of them! The money in the bank is fine, but it will soon devalue when gates drop and you have to break into it to cover costs! Wake up before it's to late.

Score: 10

SonnyJim55
5:53pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Another tale of woe and something that is going to be an ongoing theme. We have now played two teams who are/were expected to be in the wrong half and its been dreadful. Someone has asked if Hyppia will be gone by Xmas. I am not sure he will be here by mid-Sept. The man can not do his job properly with one hand tied behind his back.
GET IT SORTED BLOOM!

Another tale of woe and something that is going to be an ongoing theme. We have now played two teams who are/were expected to be in the wrong half and its been dreadful. Someone has asked if Hyppia will be gone by Xmas. I am not sure he will be here by mid-Sept. The man can not do his job properly with one hand tied behind his back.
GET IT SORTED BLOOM!SonnyJim55

Another tale of woe and something that is going to be an ongoing theme. We have now played two teams who are/were expected to be in the wrong half and its been dreadful. Someone has asked if Hyppia will be gone by Xmas. I am not sure he will be here by mid-Sept. The man can not do his job properly with one hand tied behind his back.
GET IT SORTED BLOOM!

Score: 15

Rhodes Seagull
5:55pm Sat 16 Aug 14

We lost but it is only the second game of the season, I no 6 points gone but we will bounce back.
More of a concern seems to be a certain Burke and if we do not get some decent players in very soon (This week) I can see there being demonstrations (if that’s how you spell it?) at the Amex for him to go and that is not what we need now, we need to stick together and support the team 100%.
I would be happy with a point from Leeds and remain optimistic!!

We lost but it is only the second game of the season, I no 6 points gone but we will bounce back.
More of a concern seems to be a certain Burke and if we do not get some decent players in very soon (This week) I can see there being demonstrations (if that’s how you spell it?) at the Amex for him to go and that is not what we need now, we need to stick together and support the team 100%.
I would be happy with a point from Leeds and remain optimistic!!Rhodes Seagull

We lost but it is only the second game of the season, I no 6 points gone but we will bounce back.
More of a concern seems to be a certain Burke and if we do not get some decent players in very soon (This week) I can see there being demonstrations (if that’s how you spell it?) at the Amex for him to go and that is not what we need now, we need to stick together and support the team 100%.
I would be happy with a point from Leeds and remain optimistic!!

Score: -14

ballantrrae
5:56pm Sat 16 Aug 14

john newman wrote…

This is starting to look very worrying. At least Ulloa proved he could score in higher company if only he had more help last season.

I notice that the stats today had a familiar look.
As last season we dominated - 59% possession, 13 shots but only 3 on target and 6 corners to Birmingham's 2. So new season but same old story.
However I feel that SH is more likely to turn things round and make the side a more attacking one than Oscar would have done or did. This is unlikely to happen until the club provide SH with more resource to do so.
Top priority for new signings are a couple of goal scorers, another creative midfielder (McCourt ?) plus at least one winger (but ideally 2) and of course a LB. I wouldn't say no to another (quick & young) CB.
Hyypia had an unfortunate decision to have to make with his starting selection today. He had to choose between playing the inexperienced Chicksen at LB so Bruno could be deployed in midfield or start with the very disappointing Agustien but have both Calde and Bruno at FB. He chose the former which I guess looked the lesser of two poor options.
Pleased to hear/see that the new lad from Liverpool, JC Teixeira got quite involved once he came on. I would be interested in hearing how he did from anybody at the game.
Tuesday's game against Leeds becomes even more significant.
UTA.

[quote][p][bold]john newman[/bold] wrote:
This is starting to look very worrying. At least Ulloa proved he could score in higher company if only he had more help last season.[/p][/quote]I notice that the stats today had a familiar look.
As last season we dominated - 59% possession, 13 shots but only 3 on target and 6 corners to Birmingham's 2. So new season but same old story.
However I feel that SH is more likely to turn things round and make the side a more attacking one than Oscar would have done or did. This is unlikely to happen until the club provide SH with more resource to do so.
Top priority for new signings are a couple of goal scorers, another creative midfielder (McCourt ?) plus at least one winger (but ideally 2) and of course a LB. I wouldn't say no to another (quick & young) CB.
Hyypia had an unfortunate decision to have to make with his starting selection today. He had to choose between playing the inexperienced Chicksen at LB so Bruno could be deployed in midfield or start with the very disappointing Agustien but have both Calde and Bruno at FB. He chose the former which I guess looked the lesser of two poor options.
Pleased to hear/see that the new lad from Liverpool, JC Teixeira got quite involved once he came on. I would be interested in hearing how he did from anybody at the game.
Tuesday's game against Leeds becomes even more significant.
UTA.ballantrrae

john newman wrote…

This is starting to look very worrying. At least Ulloa proved he could score in higher company if only he had more help last season.

I notice that the stats today had a familiar look.
As last season we dominated - 59% possession, 13 shots but only 3 on target and 6 corners to Birmingham's 2. So new season but same old story.
However I feel that SH is more likely to turn things round and make the side a more attacking one than Oscar would have done or did. This is unlikely to happen until the club provide SH with more resource to do so.
Top priority for new signings are a couple of goal scorers, another creative midfielder (McCourt ?) plus at least one winger (but ideally 2) and of course a LB. I wouldn't say no to another (quick & young) CB.
Hyypia had an unfortunate decision to have to make with his starting selection today. He had to choose between playing the inexperienced Chicksen at LB so Bruno could be deployed in midfield or start with the very disappointing Agustien but have both Calde and Bruno at FB. He chose the former which I guess looked the lesser of two poor options.
Pleased to hear/see that the new lad from Liverpool, JC Teixeira got quite involved once he came on. I would be interested in hearing how he did from anybody at the game.
Tuesday's game against Leeds becomes even more significant.
UTA.

Score: 6

O'Grady says
5:59pm Sat 16 Aug 14

To baldly go wrote…

Hyppia lost 11 out of 12 games before BL got rid of him, how long is Bloom going to give him? How long before Hyppia jumps before he is pushed? Dare I say it, we need to do a palarse and get in a Pulis type manager before it's to late, even 2 games into the season!
We need virtually a whole team looking at what's going on imo.
Look who has gone in recent years, most of them still playing and quite a few in the prem! Kuszczak, Upson, Bridge, Ward, Cook, Elphick, Vicente, Orlandi, Ulloa, Buckley, Bridcutt, Noone, Barnes, Murray, Wood, Bennett, Vokes, Lingard, Zamora, imagine if we had kept half of them! The money in the bank is fine, but it will soon devalue when gates drop and you have to break into it to cover costs! Wake up before it's to late.

Totally agree! The current squad of players has League 1 written all over it!!

[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote:
Hyppia lost 11 out of 12 games before BL got rid of him, how long is Bloom going to give him? How long before Hyppia jumps before he is pushed? Dare I say it, we need to do a palarse and get in a Pulis type manager before it's to late, even 2 games into the season!
We need virtually a whole team looking at what's going on imo.
Look who has gone in recent years, most of them still playing and quite a few in the prem! Kuszczak, Upson, Bridge, Ward, Cook, Elphick, Vicente, Orlandi, Ulloa, Buckley, Bridcutt, Noone, Barnes, Murray, Wood, Bennett, Vokes, Lingard, Zamora, imagine if we had kept half of them! The money in the bank is fine, but it will soon devalue when gates drop and you have to break into it to cover costs! Wake up before it's to late.[/p][/quote]Totally agree! The current squad of players has League 1 written all over it!!O'Grady says

To baldly go wrote…

Hyppia lost 11 out of 12 games before BL got rid of him, how long is Bloom going to give him? How long before Hyppia jumps before he is pushed? Dare I say it, we need to do a palarse and get in a Pulis type manager before it's to late, even 2 games into the season!
We need virtually a whole team looking at what's going on imo.
Look who has gone in recent years, most of them still playing and quite a few in the prem! Kuszczak, Upson, Bridge, Ward, Cook, Elphick, Vicente, Orlandi, Ulloa, Buckley, Bridcutt, Noone, Barnes, Murray, Wood, Bennett, Vokes, Lingard, Zamora, imagine if we had kept half of them! The money in the bank is fine, but it will soon devalue when gates drop and you have to break into it to cover costs! Wake up before it's to late.

Totally agree! The current squad of players has League 1 written all over it!!

Score: 12

barnieb
6:04pm Sat 16 Aug 14

raymondo999 wrote…

barnieb wrote…

No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.

'Long suffering'? When you give up after two games. The Albion are always up and down, get used to it.

Wilderness years after the Goldstone,I was there trudging up to the Priestfield,Withdean I was there.We havn't been in the top flight since 1983,thats 31 LONG SUFFERING YEARS you johnny come lately ****!

[quote][p][bold]raymondo999[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]barnieb[/bold] wrote:
No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.[/p][/quote]'Long suffering'? When you give up after two games. The Albion are always up and down, get used to it.[/p][/quote]Wilderness years after the Goldstone,I was there trudging up to the Priestfield,Withdean I was there.We havn't been in the top flight since 1983,thats 31 LONG SUFFERING YEARS you johnny come lately ****!barnieb

raymondo999 wrote…

barnieb wrote…

No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.

'Long suffering'? When you give up after two games. The Albion are always up and down, get used to it.

Wilderness years after the Goldstone,I was there trudging up to the Priestfield,Withdean I was there.We havn't been in the top flight since 1983,thats 31 LONG SUFFERING YEARS you johnny come lately ****!

Score: 5

Please wake up
5:58pm Sat 16 Aug 14

kwaidam wrote…

Premier League Ready..... ha.....
Burke, Barber and soon-to-be-manager Jones are planning for the play-off push... The League One play-offs in 2016.

Outstanding post and 100% correct.Almost all national press have Brighton for the drop.

[quote][p][bold]kwaidam[/bold] wrote:
Premier League Ready..... ha.....
Burke, Barber and soon-to-be-manager Jones are planning for the play-off push... The League One play-offs in 2016.[/p][/quote]Outstanding post and 100% correct.Almost all national press have Brighton for the drop.Please wake up

kwaidam wrote…

Premier League Ready..... ha.....
Burke, Barber and soon-to-be-manager Jones are planning for the play-off push... The League One play-offs in 2016.

Outstanding post and 100% correct.Almost all national press have Brighton for the drop.

Score: -5

MikeTheMan
5:59pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Very grim times I’m afraid. Two league matches played, two defeats against two very poor teams and we’re the only team in the Championship not to have scored a goal. We’ve sold / lost / released all of our best players and the current replacements are inferior players. At the moment we appear to have a Division 1 standard team. And, although it is early days, it has to be said that the manager is not inspiring confidence at the moment.

It’s been obvious for months that we need to bring in QUALITY players. But Tony Bloom and his cohorts are fiddling while Rome burns. All we get from them are bland don’t panic statements, a load of excuses as to why we haven’t signed QUALITY players and endless bleating about the total smokescreen that is FFP (it is obvious that there is no way ‘they’ will be able to get away with imposing any significant penalties for not complying with FFP).

We were promised a decent team by the end of the transfer window. That is only two weeks away now and we still need a minimum of 5 QUALITY players. Maybe it will happen but it seems incredibly unlikely. We don’t need any more rejects, has-beens, never-will-bes or development squad players who aren’t actually good enough – we need QUALITY.

Very grim times I’m afraid. Two league matches played, two defeats against two very poor teams and we’re the only team in the Championship not to have scored a goal. We’ve sold / lost / released all of our best players and the current replacements are inferior players. At the moment we appear to have a Division 1 standard team. And, although it is early days, it has to be said that the manager is not inspiring confidence at the moment.
It’s been obvious for months that we need to bring in QUALITY players. But Tony Bloom and his cohorts are fiddling while Rome burns. All we get from them are bland don’t panic statements, a load of excuses as to why we haven’t signed QUALITY players and endless bleating about the total smokescreen that is FFP (it is obvious that there is no way ‘they’ will be able to get away with imposing any significant penalties for not complying with FFP).
We were promised a decent team by the end of the transfer window. That is only two weeks away now and we still need a minimum of 5 QUALITY players. Maybe it will happen but it seems incredibly unlikely. We don’t need any more rejects, has-beens, never-will-bes or development squad players who aren’t actually good enough – we need QUALITY.MikeTheMan

Very grim times I’m afraid. Two league matches played, two defeats against two very poor teams and we’re the only team in the Championship not to have scored a goal. We’ve sold / lost / released all of our best players and the current replacements are inferior players. At the moment we appear to have a Division 1 standard team. And, although it is early days, it has to be said that the manager is not inspiring confidence at the moment.

It’s been obvious for months that we need to bring in QUALITY players. But Tony Bloom and his cohorts are fiddling while Rome burns. All we get from them are bland don’t panic statements, a load of excuses as to why we haven’t signed QUALITY players and endless bleating about the total smokescreen that is FFP (it is obvious that there is no way ‘they’ will be able to get away with imposing any significant penalties for not complying with FFP).

We were promised a decent team by the end of the transfer window. That is only two weeks away now and we still need a minimum of 5 QUALITY players. Maybe it will happen but it seems incredibly unlikely. We don’t need any more rejects, has-beens, never-will-bes or development squad players who aren’t actually good enough – we need QUALITY.

Score: 21

Opppsss!!!
6:02pm Sat 16 Aug 14

sussexram40 wrote…

If we lose at Leeds in the week then I think we need to think seriously about staging a fans protest at the Amex next Saturday. This will require banners and chants demanding that Burke and Barber go.

If 20,000 people are chanting "Burke, Barber .. Out! Out! Out!" throughout the match it will have some impact.

Think we should march around the stadium with banners and shouting BURKE& BARER out, and then go inside and do the same? with a bit of luck we might get noticed? cos to date the suits have done FA!!!

[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote:
If we lose at Leeds in the week then I think we need to think seriously about staging a fans protest at the Amex next Saturday. This will require banners and chants demanding that Burke and Barber go.
If 20,000 people are chanting "Burke, Barber .. Out! Out! Out!" throughout the match it will have some impact.[/p][/quote]Think we should march around the stadium with banners and shouting BURKE& BARER out, and then go inside and do the same? with a bit of luck we might get noticed? cos to date the suits have done FA!!!Opppsss!!!

sussexram40 wrote…

If we lose at Leeds in the week then I think we need to think seriously about staging a fans protest at the Amex next Saturday. This will require banners and chants demanding that Burke and Barber go.

If 20,000 people are chanting "Burke, Barber .. Out! Out! Out!" throughout the match it will have some impact.

Think we should march around the stadium with banners and shouting BURKE& BARER out, and then go inside and do the same? with a bit of luck we might get noticed? cos to date the suits have done FA!!!

Score: 0

sussexram40
6:02pm Sat 16 Aug 14

I think Hyypia will walk before the end of Sept. He must be incredibly frustrated and it is damaging his reputation and reducing his chances of future employment.
Nathan Jones will take over as manager for the rest of the season. I don't see TB trying to appoint anew boss - because he knows it would be futile and would damage his bank account.

I think Hyypia will walk before the end of Sept. He must be incredibly frustrated and it is damaging his reputation and reducing his chances of future employment.
Nathan Jones will take over as manager for the rest of the season. I don't see TB trying to appoint anew boss - because he knows it would be futile and would damage his bank account.sussexram40

I think Hyypia will walk before the end of Sept. He must be incredibly frustrated and it is damaging his reputation and reducing his chances of future employment.
Nathan Jones will take over as manager for the rest of the season. I don't see TB trying to appoint anew boss - because he knows it would be futile and would damage his bank account.

Score: 0

seagull52
6:07pm Sat 16 Aug 14

I see the four bottom teams with nil points are the ones that sold/lost a lot of players from last sea son? I

I see the four bottom teams with nil points are the ones that sold/lost a lot of players from last sea son? Iseagull52

I see the four bottom teams with nil points are the ones that sold/lost a lot of players from last sea son? I

Score: 9

FFPgull
6:09pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Don't think Sami up to the job either. No disrespect to the bloke he's probably come in at a real bad time with no money but still he ain't up to it. Probably in a lower division but we need real experience. Pulis would be the one but the suits won't pay to get him in. Hacked off with all of it. Last season was a time for patience but not now, enough of being mugged off.

Don't think Sami up to the job either. No disrespect to the bloke he's probably come in at a real bad time with no money but still he ain't up to it. Probably in a lower division but we need real experience. Pulis would be the one but the suits won't pay to get him in. Hacked off with all of it. Last season was a time for patience but not now, enough of being mugged off.FFPgull

Don't think Sami up to the job either. No disrespect to the bloke he's probably come in at a real bad time with no money but still he ain't up to it. Probably in a lower division but we need real experience. Pulis would be the one but the suits won't pay to get him in. Hacked off with all of it. Last season was a time for patience but not now, enough of being mugged off.

Score: 10

sauly07
6:18pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Burke,In the name of God go!

Burke,In the name of God go!sauly07

Burke,In the name of God go!

Score: 11

sussexram40
6:30pm Sat 16 Aug 14

FFPgull wrote…

Don't think Sami up to the job either. No disrespect to the bloke he's probably come in at a real bad time with no money but still he ain't up to it. Probably in a lower division but we need real experience. Pulis would be the one but the suits won't pay to get him in. Hacked off with all of it. Last season was a time for patience but not now, enough of being mugged off.

Don't think Sami was first choice manager.
He's not a great manager but he was offered the job after other more talented managers turned it down. I don't think it's fair to blame Hyypia - he is a limited ability manager but TB knew that when he offered him the job.
Lots of talent out there - like Hughton, McKay and Pulis - but we dont sign talent - we sign cheap - because we have a massive new stadium to pay for.

[quote][p][bold]FFPgull[/bold] wrote:
Don't think Sami up to the job either. No disrespect to the bloke he's probably come in at a real bad time with no money but still he ain't up to it. Probably in a lower division but we need real experience. Pulis would be the one but the suits won't pay to get him in. Hacked off with all of it. Last season was a time for patience but not now, enough of being mugged off.[/p][/quote]Don't think Sami was first choice manager.
He's not a great manager but he was offered the job after other more talented managers turned it down. I don't think it's fair to blame Hyypia - he is a limited ability manager but TB knew that when he offered him the job.
Lots of talent out there - like Hughton, McKay and Pulis - but we dont sign talent - we sign cheap - because we have a massive new stadium to pay for.sussexram40

FFPgull wrote…

Don't think Sami up to the job either. No disrespect to the bloke he's probably come in at a real bad time with no money but still he ain't up to it. Probably in a lower division but we need real experience. Pulis would be the one but the suits won't pay to get him in. Hacked off with all of it. Last season was a time for patience but not now, enough of being mugged off.

Don't think Sami was first choice manager.
He's not a great manager but he was offered the job after other more talented managers turned it down. I don't think it's fair to blame Hyypia - he is a limited ability manager but TB knew that when he offered him the job.
Lots of talent out there - like Hughton, McKay and Pulis - but we dont sign talent - we sign cheap - because we have a massive new stadium to pay for.

Score: -1

WisdomSpeaks
6:32pm Sat 16 Aug 14

To baldly go wrote…

Hyppia lost 11 out of 12 games before BL got rid of him, how long is Bloom going to give him? How long before Hyppia jumps before he is pushed? Dare I say it, we need to do a palarse and get in a Pulis type manager before it's to late, even 2 games into the season!
We need virtually a whole team looking at what's going on imo.
Look who has gone in recent years, most of them still playing and quite a few in the prem! Kuszczak, Upson, Bridge, Ward, Cook, Elphick, Vicente, Orlandi, Ulloa, Buckley, Bridcutt, Noone, Barnes, Murray, Wood, Bennett, Vokes, Lingard, Zamora, imagine if we had kept half of them! The money in the bank is fine, but it will soon devalue when gates drop and you have to break into it to cover costs! Wake up before it's to late.

I've been thinking about the club's choices of manager considering their financial position.

When they told us about the French guy I immediately thought 'that's our man' because in my opinion you don't go for a big 'name' because of what he did as a footballer.

You go for someone who has demonstrated success with little financial backing considering TB's desire to adhere to the FFP.

That French guy, and I can't remember his name now, but he took a third tier team to two first place positions to get them into the La Ligue and he managed to keep them there. He also had some very unique training ideas which, I guess, may have gone against him in the interview but I though we're great.

I am concerned about Sami, who seems a really likeable chap, because he seems totally did illusioned. He doesn't seem to enjoy what's going on, and who can blame him, especially when he's experienced proper well run massive clubs. I can only imagine what he is feeling being surrounded by relative clowns who seem more interested in kicking the ball around with him at the photo call!

I really get the feeling he is already understanding why the other Sammy changed his mind. Sammy Lee has seen it all and I reckon sensed what the place is like and thought - not for me. How long before SH does the same?

[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote:
Hyppia lost 11 out of 12 games before BL got rid of him, how long is Bloom going to give him? How long before Hyppia jumps before he is pushed? Dare I say it, we need to do a palarse and get in a Pulis type manager before it's to late, even 2 games into the season!
We need virtually a whole team looking at what's going on imo.
Look who has gone in recent years, most of them still playing and quite a few in the prem! Kuszczak, Upson, Bridge, Ward, Cook, Elphick, Vicente, Orlandi, Ulloa, Buckley, Bridcutt, Noone, Barnes, Murray, Wood, Bennett, Vokes, Lingard, Zamora, imagine if we had kept half of them! The money in the bank is fine, but it will soon devalue when gates drop and you have to break into it to cover costs! Wake up before it's to late.[/p][/quote]I've been thinking about the club's choices of manager considering their financial position.
When they told us about the French guy I immediately thought 'that's our man' because in my opinion you don't go for a big 'name' because of what he did as a footballer.
You go for someone who has demonstrated success with little financial backing considering TB's desire to adhere to the FFP.
That French guy, and I can't remember his name now, but he took a third tier team to two first place positions to get them into the La Ligue and he managed to keep them there. He also had some very unique training ideas which, I guess, may have gone against him in the interview but I though we're great.
I am concerned about Sami, who seems a really likeable chap, because he seems totally did illusioned. He doesn't seem to enjoy what's going on, and who can blame him, especially when he's experienced proper well run massive clubs. I can only imagine what he is feeling being surrounded by relative clowns who seem more interested in kicking the ball around with him at the photo call!
I really get the feeling he is already understanding why the other Sammy changed his mind. Sammy Lee has seen it all and I reckon sensed what the place is like and thought - not for me. How long before SH does the same?WisdomSpeaks

To baldly go wrote…

Hyppia lost 11 out of 12 games before BL got rid of him, how long is Bloom going to give him? How long before Hyppia jumps before he is pushed? Dare I say it, we need to do a palarse and get in a Pulis type manager before it's to late, even 2 games into the season!
We need virtually a whole team looking at what's going on imo.
Look who has gone in recent years, most of them still playing and quite a few in the prem! Kuszczak, Upson, Bridge, Ward, Cook, Elphick, Vicente, Orlandi, Ulloa, Buckley, Bridcutt, Noone, Barnes, Murray, Wood, Bennett, Vokes, Lingard, Zamora, imagine if we had kept half of them! The money in the bank is fine, but it will soon devalue when gates drop and you have to break into it to cover costs! Wake up before it's to late.

I've been thinking about the club's choices of manager considering their financial position.

When they told us about the French guy I immediately thought 'that's our man' because in my opinion you don't go for a big 'name' because of what he did as a footballer.

You go for someone who has demonstrated success with little financial backing considering TB's desire to adhere to the FFP.

That French guy, and I can't remember his name now, but he took a third tier team to two first place positions to get them into the La Ligue and he managed to keep them there. He also had some very unique training ideas which, I guess, may have gone against him in the interview but I though we're great.

I am concerned about Sami, who seems a really likeable chap, because he seems totally did illusioned. He doesn't seem to enjoy what's going on, and who can blame him, especially when he's experienced proper well run massive clubs. I can only imagine what he is feeling being surrounded by relative clowns who seem more interested in kicking the ball around with him at the photo call!

I really get the feeling he is already understanding why the other Sammy changed his mind. Sammy Lee has seen it all and I reckon sensed what the place is like and thought - not for me. How long before SH does the same?

Score: 11

mikeygit
6:36pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Very disappointing and very worrying. Again we cannot score goals and without them we are going to be pinned to the bottom of the league. CMS is back but I do not think I saw his name mentioned on the BBC Sport live match report. He is not the player he was at Peterboro and being injured he is lucky to still be at the club. Maybe nice bloke but seems to have lost touch as to where the goal is. We have got rid of two players who new how to score goals--yes Buckers went off the boil, BUT why??---and we are left with dregs who seem to play almost blindfold. Sammi has his work cut out doing anything with the team we have, all the stuffing seems to have been knocked out of them. Agree that Bloom has to do some serious thinking before it is too late and getting rid of Burke may be part of the answer.
I cannot see us winning at Leeds and all of a sudden there will be a big chasm of points between us and the rest!!

Very disappointing and very worrying. Again we cannot score goals and without them we are going to be pinned to the bottom of the league. CMS is back but I do not think I saw his name mentioned on the BBC Sport live match report. He is not the player he was at Peterboro and being injured he is lucky to still be at the club. Maybe nice bloke but seems to have lost touch as to where the goal is. We have got rid of two players who new how to score goals--yes Buckers went off the boil, BUT why??---and we are left with dregs who seem to play almost blindfold. Sammi has his work cut out doing anything with the team we have, all the stuffing seems to have been knocked out of them. Agree that Bloom has to do some serious thinking before it is too late and getting rid of Burke may be part of the answer.
I cannot see us winning at Leeds and all of a sudden there will be a big chasm of points between us and the rest!!mikeygit

Very disappointing and very worrying. Again we cannot score goals and without them we are going to be pinned to the bottom of the league. CMS is back but I do not think I saw his name mentioned on the BBC Sport live match report. He is not the player he was at Peterboro and being injured he is lucky to still be at the club. Maybe nice bloke but seems to have lost touch as to where the goal is. We have got rid of two players who new how to score goals--yes Buckers went off the boil, BUT why??---and we are left with dregs who seem to play almost blindfold. Sammi has his work cut out doing anything with the team we have, all the stuffing seems to have been knocked out of them. Agree that Bloom has to do some serious thinking before it is too late and getting rid of Burke may be part of the answer.
I cannot see us winning at Leeds and all of a sudden there will be a big chasm of points between us and the rest!!

Score: 11

mark by the sea
6:39pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Rhodes Seagull wrote…

We lost but it is only the second game of the season, I no 6 points gone but we will bounce back.
More of a concern seems to be a certain Burke and if we do not get some decent players in very soon (This week) I can see there being demonstrations (if that’s how you spell it?) at the Amex for him to go and that is not what we need now, we need to stick together and support the team 100%.
I would be happy with a point from Leeds and remain optimistic!!

A massive 14 days ahead, Leeds have brought in half a team in three weeks including sharp, why can't we sign someone of his quality?

[quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote:
We lost but it is only the second game of the season, I no 6 points gone but we will bounce back.
More of a concern seems to be a certain Burke and if we do not get some decent players in very soon (This week) I can see there being demonstrations (if that’s how you spell it?) at the Amex for him to go and that is not what we need now, we need to stick together and support the team 100%.
I would be happy with a point from Leeds and remain optimistic!![/p][/quote]A massive 14 days ahead, Leeds have brought in half a team in three weeks including sharp, why can't we sign someone of his quality?mark by the sea

Rhodes Seagull wrote…

We lost but it is only the second game of the season, I no 6 points gone but we will bounce back.
More of a concern seems to be a certain Burke and if we do not get some decent players in very soon (This week) I can see there being demonstrations (if that’s how you spell it?) at the Amex for him to go and that is not what we need now, we need to stick together and support the team 100%.
I would be happy with a point from Leeds and remain optimistic!!

A massive 14 days ahead, Leeds have brought in half a team in three weeks including sharp, why can't we sign someone of his quality?

Score: 11

Please wake up
6:41pm Sat 16 Aug 14

mikeygit wrote…

Very disappointing and very worrying. Again we cannot score goals and without them we are going to be pinned to the bottom of the league. CMS is back but I do not think I saw his name mentioned on the BBC Sport live match report. He is not the player he was at Peterboro and being injured he is lucky to still be at the club. Maybe nice bloke but seems to have lost touch as to where the goal is. We have got rid of two players who new how to score goals--yes Buckers went off the boil, BUT why??---and we are left with dregs who seem to play almost blindfold. Sammi has his work cut out doing anything with the team we have, all the stuffing seems to have been knocked out of them. Agree that Bloom has to do some serious thinking before it is too late and getting rid of Burke may be part of the answer.
I cannot see us winning at Leeds and all of a sudden there will be a big chasm of points between us and the rest!!

CMS is vile lower league scum it will never score 20 or 30 goals in the chapionship.The vile scum has cost the club 3 million with wages.

[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote:
Very disappointing and very worrying. Again we cannot score goals and without them we are going to be pinned to the bottom of the league. CMS is back but I do not think I saw his name mentioned on the BBC Sport live match report. He is not the player he was at Peterboro and being injured he is lucky to still be at the club. Maybe nice bloke but seems to have lost touch as to where the goal is. We have got rid of two players who new how to score goals--yes Buckers went off the boil, BUT why??---and we are left with dregs who seem to play almost blindfold. Sammi has his work cut out doing anything with the team we have, all the stuffing seems to have been knocked out of them. Agree that Bloom has to do some serious thinking before it is too late and getting rid of Burke may be part of the answer.
I cannot see us winning at Leeds and all of a sudden there will be a big chasm of points between us and the rest!![/p][/quote]CMS is vile lower league scum it will never score 20 or 30 goals in the chapionship.The vile scum has cost the club 3 million with wages.Please wake up

mikeygit wrote…

Very disappointing and very worrying. Again we cannot score goals and without them we are going to be pinned to the bottom of the league. CMS is back but I do not think I saw his name mentioned on the BBC Sport live match report. He is not the player he was at Peterboro and being injured he is lucky to still be at the club. Maybe nice bloke but seems to have lost touch as to where the goal is. We have got rid of two players who new how to score goals--yes Buckers went off the boil, BUT why??---and we are left with dregs who seem to play almost blindfold. Sammi has his work cut out doing anything with the team we have, all the stuffing seems to have been knocked out of them. Agree that Bloom has to do some serious thinking before it is too late and getting rid of Burke may be part of the answer.
I cannot see us winning at Leeds and all of a sudden there will be a big chasm of points between us and the rest!!

CMS is vile lower league scum it will never score 20 or 30 goals in the chapionship.The vile scum has cost the club 3 million with wages.

Score: -15

Please wake up
6:44pm Sat 16 Aug 14

sussexram40 wrote…

FFPgull wrote…

Don't think Sami up to the job either. No disrespect to the bloke he's probably come in at a real bad time with no money but still he ain't up to it. Probably in a lower division but we need real experience. Pulis would be the one but the suits won't pay to get him in. Hacked off with all of it. Last season was a time for patience but not now, enough of being mugged off.

Don't think Sami was first choice manager.
He's not a great manager but he was offered the job after other more talented managers turned it down. I don't think it's fair to blame Hyypia - he is a limited ability manager but TB knew that when he offered him the job.
Lots of talent out there - like Hughton, McKay and Pulis - but we dont sign talent - we sign cheap - because we have a massive new stadium to pay for.

100% correct.Just like they said on talk sport

[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]FFPgull[/bold] wrote:
Don't think Sami up to the job either. No disrespect to the bloke he's probably come in at a real bad time with no money but still he ain't up to it. Probably in a lower division but we need real experience. Pulis would be the one but the suits won't pay to get him in. Hacked off with all of it. Last season was a time for patience but not now, enough of being mugged off.[/p][/quote]Don't think Sami was first choice manager.
He's not a great manager but he was offered the job after other more talented managers turned it down. I don't think it's fair to blame Hyypia - he is a limited ability manager but TB knew that when he offered him the job.
Lots of talent out there - like Hughton, McKay and Pulis - but we dont sign talent - we sign cheap - because we have a massive new stadium to pay for.[/p][/quote]100% correct.Just like they said on talk sportPlease wake up

sussexram40 wrote…

FFPgull wrote…

Don't think Sami up to the job either. No disrespect to the bloke he's probably come in at a real bad time with no money but still he ain't up to it. Probably in a lower division but we need real experience. Pulis would be the one but the suits won't pay to get him in. Hacked off with all of it. Last season was a time for patience but not now, enough of being mugged off.

Don't think Sami was first choice manager.
He's not a great manager but he was offered the job after other more talented managers turned it down. I don't think it's fair to blame Hyypia - he is a limited ability manager but TB knew that when he offered him the job.
Lots of talent out there - like Hughton, McKay and Pulis - but we dont sign talent - we sign cheap - because we have a massive new stadium to pay for.

100% correct.Just like they said on talk sport

Score: -5

leafletman
7:03pm Sat 16 Aug 14

I AGREE WITH MOST OF THESE COMMENTS .
HYPIA IS NOT THE MAN TO TAKE US FORWARD
BURKE HAS TO GO ITS GETTING EMBARRASSING .
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN SINCE THE ARCHER DAYS I AM WORRIED
LISTEN TO THE GAME TODAY AND TO BE HONEST WE ARE S...T
BRING PULIS IN AND GIVE HIM WHAT HE NEEDS TO MAKE US A COMPEAT
IN THIS LEAGUE .
WE WOULD STRUGGLE IN LEAGUE 1.
CAN NOT SEE US GETTING ANYTHING FROM TUES GAME

I AGREE WITH MOST OF THESE COMMENTS .
HYPIA IS NOT THE MAN TO TAKE US FORWARD
BURKE HAS TO GO ITS GETTING EMBARRASSING .
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN SINCE THE ARCHER DAYS I AM WORRIED
LISTEN TO THE GAME TODAY AND TO BE HONEST WE ARE S...T
BRING PULIS IN AND GIVE HIM WHAT HE NEEDS TO MAKE US A COMPEAT
IN THIS LEAGUE .
WE WOULD STRUGGLE IN LEAGUE 1.
CAN NOT SEE US GETTING ANYTHING FROM TUES GAMEleafletman

I AGREE WITH MOST OF THESE COMMENTS .
HYPIA IS NOT THE MAN TO TAKE US FORWARD
BURKE HAS TO GO ITS GETTING EMBARRASSING .
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN SINCE THE ARCHER DAYS I AM WORRIED
LISTEN TO THE GAME TODAY AND TO BE HONEST WE ARE S...T
BRING PULIS IN AND GIVE HIM WHAT HE NEEDS TO MAKE US A COMPEAT
IN THIS LEAGUE .
WE WOULD STRUGGLE IN LEAGUE 1.
CAN NOT SEE US GETTING ANYTHING FROM TUES GAME

Score: 3

barnieb
7:06pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Please wake up wrote…

sussexram40 wrote…

FFPgull wrote…

Don't think Sami up to the job either. No disrespect to the bloke he's probably come in at a real bad time with no money but still he ain't up to it. Probably in a lower division but we need real experience. Pulis would be the one but the suits won't pay to get him in. Hacked off with all of it. Last season was a time for patience but not now, enough of being mugged off.

Don't think Sami was first choice manager.
He's not a great manager but he was offered the job after other more talented managers turned it down. I don't think it's fair to blame Hyypia - he is a limited ability manager but TB knew that when he offered him the job.
Lots of talent out there - like Hughton, McKay and Pulis - but we dont sign talent - we sign cheap - because we have a massive new stadium to pay for.

100% correct.Just like they said on talk sport

OWEN COYLE....OWEN COYLE.....OWEN COYLE....OWEN COYLE

[quote][p][bold]Please wake up[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]FFPgull[/bold] wrote:
Don't think Sami up to the job either. No disrespect to the bloke he's probably come in at a real bad time with no money but still he ain't up to it. Probably in a lower division but we need real experience. Pulis would be the one but the suits won't pay to get him in. Hacked off with all of it. Last season was a time for patience but not now, enough of being mugged off.[/p][/quote]Don't think Sami was first choice manager.
He's not a great manager but he was offered the job after other more talented managers turned it down. I don't think it's fair to blame Hyypia - he is a limited ability manager but TB knew that when he offered him the job.
Lots of talent out there - like Hughton, McKay and Pulis - but we dont sign talent - we sign cheap - because we have a massive new stadium to pay for.[/p][/quote]100% correct.Just like they said on talk sport[/p][/quote]OWEN COYLE....OWEN COYLE.....OWEN COYLE....OWEN COYLEbarnieb

Please wake up wrote…

sussexram40 wrote…

FFPgull wrote…

Don't think Sami up to the job either. No disrespect to the bloke he's probably come in at a real bad time with no money but still he ain't up to it. Probably in a lower division but we need real experience. Pulis would be the one but the suits won't pay to get him in. Hacked off with all of it. Last season was a time for patience but not now, enough of being mugged off.

Don't think Sami was first choice manager.
He's not a great manager but he was offered the job after other more talented managers turned it down. I don't think it's fair to blame Hyypia - he is a limited ability manager but TB knew that when he offered him the job.
Lots of talent out there - like Hughton, McKay and Pulis - but we dont sign talent - we sign cheap - because we have a massive new stadium to pay for.

100% correct.Just like they said on talk sport

OWEN COYLE....OWEN COYLE.....OWEN COYLE....OWEN COYLE

Score: -6

Falmer Wizard
7:41pm Sat 16 Aug 14

sussexram40 wrote…

That was Birmingham's FIRST home win for 10 months.
Their last home win was 5 Oct 2013.

There were not many places that I thought we could pick up a point and Birmingham was one of them,however I do not blame Sammi who must have been impressed by our stadium and training facilities and assumed we would have been able to improve the strength of the side

[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote:
That was Birmingham's FIRST home win for 10 months.
Their last home win was 5 Oct 2013.[/p][/quote]There were not many places that I thought we could pick up a point and Birmingham was one of them,however I do not blame Sammi who must have been impressed by our stadium and training facilities and assumed we would have been able to improve the strength of the sideFalmer Wizard

sussexram40 wrote…

That was Birmingham's FIRST home win for 10 months.
Their last home win was 5 Oct 2013.

There were not many places that I thought we could pick up a point and Birmingham was one of them,however I do not blame Sammi who must have been impressed by our stadium and training facilities and assumed we would have been able to improve the strength of the side

Score: 2

Rhodes Seagull
7:52pm Sat 16 Aug 14

mark by the sea wrote…

Rhodes Seagull wrote…

We lost but it is only the second game of the season, I no 6 points gone but we will bounce back.
More of a concern seems to be a certain Burke and if we do not get some decent players in very soon (This week) I can see there being demonstrations (if that’s how you spell it?) at the Amex for him to go and that is not what we need now, we need to stick together and support the team 100%.
I would be happy with a point from Leeds and remain optimistic!!

A massive 14 days ahead, Leeds have brought in half a team in three weeks including sharp, why can't we sign someone of his quality?

Amazing! I state We need to bring in players, We need to stick together, support the team 100%, Happy to get a point from Leeds and in the OP I get thumbs down? Really sad people on here at times!!

[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote:
We lost but it is only the second game of the season, I no 6 points gone but we will bounce back.
More of a concern seems to be a certain Burke and if we do not get some decent players in very soon (This week) I can see there being demonstrations (if that’s how you spell it?) at the Amex for him to go and that is not what we need now, we need to stick together and support the team 100%.
I would be happy with a point from Leeds and remain optimistic!![/p][/quote]A massive 14 days ahead, Leeds have brought in half a team in three weeks including sharp, why can't we sign someone of his quality?[/p][/quote]Amazing! I state We need to bring in players, We need to stick together, support the team 100%, Happy to get a point from Leeds and in the OP I get thumbs down? Really sad people on here at times!!Rhodes Seagull

mark by the sea wrote…

Rhodes Seagull wrote…

We lost but it is only the second game of the season, I no 6 points gone but we will bounce back.
More of a concern seems to be a certain Burke and if we do not get some decent players in very soon (This week) I can see there being demonstrations (if that’s how you spell it?) at the Amex for him to go and that is not what we need now, we need to stick together and support the team 100%.
I would be happy with a point from Leeds and remain optimistic!!

A massive 14 days ahead, Leeds have brought in half a team in three weeks including sharp, why can't we sign someone of his quality?

Amazing! I state We need to bring in players, We need to stick together, support the team 100%, Happy to get a point from Leeds and in the OP I get thumbs down? Really sad people on here at times!!

Score: -6

Claude Back
8:11pm Sat 16 Aug 14

leafletman wrote…

I AGREE WITH MOST OF THESE COMMENTS .
HYPIA IS NOT THE MAN TO TAKE US FORWARD
BURKE HAS TO GO ITS GETTING EMBARRASSING .
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN SINCE THE ARCHER DAYS I AM WORRIED
LISTEN TO THE GAME TODAY AND TO BE HONEST WE ARE S...T
BRING PULIS IN AND GIVE HIM WHAT HE NEEDS TO MAKE US A COMPEAT
IN THIS LEAGUE .
WE WOULD STRUGGLE IN LEAGUE 1.
CAN NOT SEE US GETTING ANYTHING FROM TUES GAME

Nothing to do with Football and I share the sentiment above re Sami but it reminds me of an old Monty Python sketch.
One of them says,' I LIKE SHOUTING! I THINK SHOUTING'S WONDERFUL!'
The interviewer says, 'What does your wife think about it?'
She replies, 'I AGREE WITH HIM!' at the top of her voice.
Well, it made me smile anyway.

[quote][p][bold]leafletman[/bold] wrote:
I AGREE WITH MOST OF THESE COMMENTS .
HYPIA IS NOT THE MAN TO TAKE US FORWARD
BURKE HAS TO GO ITS GETTING EMBARRASSING .
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN SINCE THE ARCHER DAYS I AM WORRIED
LISTEN TO THE GAME TODAY AND TO BE HONEST WE ARE S...T
BRING PULIS IN AND GIVE HIM WHAT HE NEEDS TO MAKE US A COMPEAT
IN THIS LEAGUE .
WE WOULD STRUGGLE IN LEAGUE 1.
CAN NOT SEE US GETTING ANYTHING FROM TUES GAME[/p][/quote]Nothing to do with Football and I share the sentiment above re Sami but it reminds me of an old Monty Python sketch.
One of them says,' I LIKE SHOUTING! I THINK SHOUTING'S WONDERFUL!'
The interviewer says, 'What does your wife think about it?'
She replies, 'I AGREE WITH HIM!' at the top of her voice.
Well, it made me smile anyway.Claude Back

leafletman wrote…

I AGREE WITH MOST OF THESE COMMENTS .
HYPIA IS NOT THE MAN TO TAKE US FORWARD
BURKE HAS TO GO ITS GETTING EMBARRASSING .
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN SINCE THE ARCHER DAYS I AM WORRIED
LISTEN TO THE GAME TODAY AND TO BE HONEST WE ARE S...T
BRING PULIS IN AND GIVE HIM WHAT HE NEEDS TO MAKE US A COMPEAT
IN THIS LEAGUE .
WE WOULD STRUGGLE IN LEAGUE 1.
CAN NOT SEE US GETTING ANYTHING FROM TUES GAME

Nothing to do with Football and I share the sentiment above re Sami but it reminds me of an old Monty Python sketch.
One of them says,' I LIKE SHOUTING! I THINK SHOUTING'S WONDERFUL!'
The interviewer says, 'What does your wife think about it?'
She replies, 'I AGREE WITH HIM!' at the top of her voice.
Well, it made me smile anyway.

Score: -1

jcd1972
8:12pm Sat 16 Aug 14

sjonesbb wrote…

I feel sorry for Hyppia. He's gonna end up losing his job because our inability to deal in the transfer market!! Even the most die hard Albion optimist would have to say survival in the championship would be seen as a good season!! Bloom is a hero for getting us the facilities to be a premier league club. Burke needs to go!! Support the 'manager' let him bring in his own players. Were heading for a relegation battle with the crap that the board call quality signings ... I mean of O'Grady is a quality signing we are the proverbial creek without a paddle!!

Blaming Burke is easier than blaming TB because he didn't finance the stadium and training ground. The fact is though that TB sanctioned the sales of the best players without having replacements. I feel that we might get some good players on loan because they can always know they can go back to their parent club. However we are looking for superior Championship players on a permanent basis and why would they come to brighton if it's going to be a long hard slog after the quality was ripped out of the team?

[quote][p][bold]sjonesbb[/bold] wrote:
I feel sorry for Hyppia. He's gonna end up losing his job because our inability to deal in the transfer market!! Even the most die hard Albion optimist would have to say survival in the championship would be seen as a good season!! Bloom is a hero for getting us the facilities to be a premier league club. Burke needs to go!! Support the 'manager' let him bring in his own players. Were heading for a relegation battle with the crap that the board call quality signings ... I mean of O'Grady is a quality signing we are the proverbial creek without a paddle!![/p][/quote]Blaming Burke is easier than blaming TB because he didn't finance the stadium and training ground. The fact is though that TB sanctioned the sales of the best players without having replacements. I feel that we might get some good players on loan because they can always know they can go back to their parent club. However we are looking for superior Championship players on a permanent basis and why would they come to brighton if it's going to be a long hard slog after the quality was ripped out of the team?jcd1972

sjonesbb wrote…

I feel sorry for Hyppia. He's gonna end up losing his job because our inability to deal in the transfer market!! Even the most die hard Albion optimist would have to say survival in the championship would be seen as a good season!! Bloom is a hero for getting us the facilities to be a premier league club. Burke needs to go!! Support the 'manager' let him bring in his own players. Were heading for a relegation battle with the crap that the board call quality signings ... I mean of O'Grady is a quality signing we are the proverbial creek without a paddle!!

Blaming Burke is easier than blaming TB because he didn't finance the stadium and training ground. The fact is though that TB sanctioned the sales of the best players without having replacements. I feel that we might get some good players on loan because they can always know they can go back to their parent club. However we are looking for superior Championship players on a permanent basis and why would they come to brighton if it's going to be a long hard slog after the quality was ripped out of the team?

Score: 6

Claude Back
8:14pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Rhodes Seagull wrote…

mark by the sea wrote…

Rhodes Seagull wrote…

We lost but it is only the second game of the season, I no 6 points gone but we will bounce back.
More of a concern seems to be a certain Burke and if we do not get some decent players in very soon (This week) I can see there being demonstrations (if that’s how you spell it?) at the Amex for him to go and that is not what we need now, we need to stick together and support the team 100%.
I would be happy with a point from Leeds and remain optimistic!!

A massive 14 days ahead, Leeds have brought in half a team in three weeks including sharp, why can't we sign someone of his quality?

Amazing! I state We need to bring in players, We need to stick together, support the team 100%, Happy to get a point from Leeds and in the OP I get thumbs down? Really sad people on here at times!!

Yes but with respect it is easy to be optimistic when you are not paying to see this rubbish. ;-)

[quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote:
We lost but it is only the second game of the season, I no 6 points gone but we will bounce back.
More of a concern seems to be a certain Burke and if we do not get some decent players in very soon (This week) I can see there being demonstrations (if that’s how you spell it?) at the Amex for him to go and that is not what we need now, we need to stick together and support the team 100%.
I would be happy with a point from Leeds and remain optimistic!![/p][/quote]A massive 14 days ahead, Leeds have brought in half a team in three weeks including sharp, why can't we sign someone of his quality?[/p][/quote]Amazing! I state We need to bring in players, We need to stick together, support the team 100%, Happy to get a point from Leeds and in the OP I get thumbs down? Really sad people on here at times!![/p][/quote]Yes but with respect it is easy to be optimistic when you are not paying to see this rubbish. ;-)Claude Back

Rhodes Seagull wrote…

mark by the sea wrote…

Rhodes Seagull wrote…

We lost but it is only the second game of the season, I no 6 points gone but we will bounce back.
More of a concern seems to be a certain Burke and if we do not get some decent players in very soon (This week) I can see there being demonstrations (if that’s how you spell it?) at the Amex for him to go and that is not what we need now, we need to stick together and support the team 100%.
I would be happy with a point from Leeds and remain optimistic!!

A massive 14 days ahead, Leeds have brought in half a team in three weeks including sharp, why can't we sign someone of his quality?

Amazing! I state We need to bring in players, We need to stick together, support the team 100%, Happy to get a point from Leeds and in the OP I get thumbs down? Really sad people on here at times!!

Yes but with respect it is easy to be optimistic when you are not paying to see this rubbish. ;-)

Score: 5

Albion mascot in 1991
8:42pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Hugothepug wrote…

barnieb wrote…

No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.

See ya!

Why do you have two seasons tickets??... Stick 'em where the sun don't shine... Up your arse that requires two seats??
You won't be missed. Does Edgar street '97 mean anything to you? 150mile round trips to Gillingham? Or do your Albion memories not go further than the Amex?... People need to remember where we were as a football club, how far we've come and that we're lucky to be here at all!!!!

[quote][p][bold]Hugothepug[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]barnieb[/bold] wrote:
No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.[/p][/quote]See ya![/p][/quote]Why do you have two seasons tickets??... Stick 'em where the sun don't shine... Up your arse that requires two seats??
You won't be missed. Does Edgar street '97 mean anything to you? 150mile round trips to Gillingham? Or do your Albion memories not go further than the Amex?... People need to remember where we were as a football club, how far we've come and that we're lucky to be here at all!!!!Albion mascot in 1991

Hugothepug wrote…

barnieb wrote…

No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.

See ya!

Why do you have two seasons tickets??... Stick 'em where the sun don't shine... Up your arse that requires two seats??
You won't be missed. Does Edgar street '97 mean anything to you? 150mile round trips to Gillingham? Or do your Albion memories not go further than the Amex?... People need to remember where we were as a football club, how far we've come and that we're lucky to be here at all!!!!

Score: -3

sjonesbb
8:49pm Sat 16 Aug 14

jcd1972 wrote…

sjonesbb wrote…

I feel sorry for Hyppia. He's gonna end up losing his job because our inability to deal in the transfer market!! Even the most die hard Albion optimist would have to say survival in the championship would be seen as a good season!! Bloom is a hero for getting us the facilities to be a premier league club. Burke needs to go!! Support the 'manager' let him bring in his own players. Were heading for a relegation battle with the crap that the board call quality signings ... I mean of O'Grady is a quality signing we are the proverbial creek without a paddle!!

Blaming Burke is easier than blaming TB because he didn't finance the stadium and training ground. The fact is though that TB sanctioned the sales of the best players without having replacements. I feel that we might get some good players on loan because they can always know they can go back to their parent club. However we are looking for superior Championship players on a permanent basis and why would they come to brighton if it's going to be a long hard slog after the quality was ripped out of the team?

So Burke is doing his job well then? God I'd hate to see it if he was off his game!! He is the guy the players talk to. I'm not saying TB is blameless but he's pumped millions in to the facilities. We have money to spend and something is going wrong in negotiation with the players.

[quote][p][bold]jcd1972[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]sjonesbb[/bold] wrote:
I feel sorry for Hyppia. He's gonna end up losing his job because our inability to deal in the transfer market!! Even the most die hard Albion optimist would have to say survival in the championship would be seen as a good season!! Bloom is a hero for getting us the facilities to be a premier league club. Burke needs to go!! Support the 'manager' let him bring in his own players. Were heading for a relegation battle with the crap that the board call quality signings ... I mean of O'Grady is a quality signing we are the proverbial creek without a paddle!![/p][/quote]Blaming Burke is easier than blaming TB because he didn't finance the stadium and training ground. The fact is though that TB sanctioned the sales of the best players without having replacements. I feel that we might get some good players on loan because they can always know they can go back to their parent club. However we are looking for superior Championship players on a permanent basis and why would they come to brighton if it's going to be a long hard slog after the quality was ripped out of the team?[/p][/quote]So Burke is doing his job well then? God I'd hate to see it if he was off his game!! He is the guy the players talk to. I'm not saying TB is blameless but he's pumped millions in to the facilities. We have money to spend and something is going wrong in negotiation with the players.sjonesbb

jcd1972 wrote…

sjonesbb wrote…

I feel sorry for Hyppia. He's gonna end up losing his job because our inability to deal in the transfer market!! Even the most die hard Albion optimist would have to say survival in the championship would be seen as a good season!! Bloom is a hero for getting us the facilities to be a premier league club. Burke needs to go!! Support the 'manager' let him bring in his own players. Were heading for a relegation battle with the crap that the board call quality signings ... I mean of O'Grady is a quality signing we are the proverbial creek without a paddle!!

Blaming Burke is easier than blaming TB because he didn't finance the stadium and training ground. The fact is though that TB sanctioned the sales of the best players without having replacements. I feel that we might get some good players on loan because they can always know they can go back to their parent club. However we are looking for superior Championship players on a permanent basis and why would they come to brighton if it's going to be a long hard slog after the quality was ripped out of the team?

So Burke is doing his job well then? God I'd hate to see it if he was off his game!! He is the guy the players talk to. I'm not saying TB is blameless but he's pumped millions in to the facilities. We have money to spend and something is going wrong in negotiation with the players.

Score: 5

Rhodes Seagull
9:55pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Claude Back wrote…

Rhodes Seagull wrote…

mark by the sea wrote…

Rhodes Seagull wrote…

We lost but it is only the second game of the season, I no 6 points gone but we will bounce back.
More of a concern seems to be a certain Burke and if we do not get some decent players in very soon (This week) I can see there being demonstrations (if that’s how you spell it?) at the Amex for him to go and that is not what we need now, we need to stick together and support the team 100%.
I would be happy with a point from Leeds and remain optimistic!!

A massive 14 days ahead, Leeds have brought in half a team in three weeks including sharp, why can't we sign someone of his quality?

Amazing! I state We need to bring in players, We need to stick together, support the team 100%, Happy to get a point from Leeds and in the OP I get thumbs down? Really sad people on here at times!!

Yes but with respect it is easy to be optimistic when you are not paying to see this rubbish. ;-)

No maybe not paying for obvious reasons like distance to travel approx 2000 miles but I do subscribe to Seagulls players and have to listen to JC and co. saying what pass should have been made!!!!

[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote:
We lost but it is only the second game of the season, I no 6 points gone but we will bounce back.
More of a concern seems to be a certain Burke and if we do not get some decent players in very soon (This week) I can see there being demonstrations (if that’s how you spell it?) at the Amex for him to go and that is not what we need now, we need to stick together and support the team 100%.
I would be happy with a point from Leeds and remain optimistic!![/p][/quote]A massive 14 days ahead, Leeds have brought in half a team in three weeks including sharp, why can't we sign someone of his quality?[/p][/quote]Amazing! I state We need to bring in players, We need to stick together, support the team 100%, Happy to get a point from Leeds and in the OP I get thumbs down? Really sad people on here at times!![/p][/quote]Yes but with respect it is easy to be optimistic when you are not paying to see this rubbish. ;-)[/p][/quote]No maybe not paying for obvious reasons like distance to travel approx 2000 miles but I do subscribe to Seagulls players and have to listen to JC and co. saying what pass should have been made!!!!Rhodes Seagull

Claude Back wrote…

Rhodes Seagull wrote…

mark by the sea wrote…

Rhodes Seagull wrote…

We lost but it is only the second game of the season, I no 6 points gone but we will bounce back.
More of a concern seems to be a certain Burke and if we do not get some decent players in very soon (This week) I can see there being demonstrations (if that’s how you spell it?) at the Amex for him to go and that is not what we need now, we need to stick together and support the team 100%.
I would be happy with a point from Leeds and remain optimistic!!

A massive 14 days ahead, Leeds have brought in half a team in three weeks including sharp, why can't we sign someone of his quality?

Amazing! I state We need to bring in players, We need to stick together, support the team 100%, Happy to get a point from Leeds and in the OP I get thumbs down? Really sad people on here at times!!

Yes but with respect it is easy to be optimistic when you are not paying to see this rubbish. ;-)

No maybe not paying for obvious reasons like distance to travel approx 2000 miles but I do subscribe to Seagulls players and have to listen to JC and co. saying what pass should have been made!!!!

Score: -2

sauly07
10:35pm Sat 16 Aug 14

It's not hyppia's fault bloom is not giving him the money

It's not hyppia's fault bloom is not giving him the moneysauly07

It's not hyppia's fault bloom is not giving him the money

Score: 4

Shropshirealbion
10:50pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Terrible. Worst performance I have seen for 3 years. O'grady worst buy for many a year. Just hope our youngsters can come good and get us through . Something must be wrong with management to get us so quickly to this state of affairs.

Terrible. Worst performance I have seen for 3 years. O'grady worst buy for many a year. Just hope our youngsters can come good and get us through . Something must be wrong with management to get us so quickly to this state of affairs.Shropshirealbion

Terrible. Worst performance I have seen for 3 years. O'grady worst buy for many a year. Just hope our youngsters can come good and get us through . Something must be wrong with management to get us so quickly to this state of affairs.

Score: 3

sauly07
11:58pm Sat 16 Aug 14

There Is one thing getting youngsters but there is another thing delivering good performances for us, we support them give us some good players back

There Is one thing getting youngsters but there is another thing delivering good performances for us, we support them give us some good players backsauly07

There Is one thing getting youngsters but there is another thing delivering good performances for us, we support them give us some good players back

Score: 0

The unwilling Frenchman
7:54am Sun 17 Aug 14

I was not happy with S H`s appointment in the first place, he had no relevant experience. T B likes taking risks with appointments, which may be OK if the odds, ie the quality of the squad are not against you.
If you are going to try and manage with a bargain basement squad , it will need the skills of a seasoned, experienced manager, like the job that Steve Coppell did after we lost the first Ten games in this division. He only just failed to keep us up and given an earlier start might have succeeded. Please don't leave it until the job is impossible this time, another six losses and we should appoint a Coppell/Pulis standard of manager.

I was not happy with S H`s appointment in the first place, he had no relevant experience. T B likes taking risks with appointments, which may be OK if the odds, ie the quality of the squad are not against you.
If you are going to try and manage with a bargain basement squad , it will need the skills of a seasoned, experienced manager, like the job that Steve Coppell did after we lost the first Ten games in this division. He only just failed to keep us up and given an earlier start might have succeeded. Please don't leave it until the job is impossible this time, another six losses and we should appoint a Coppell/Pulis standard of manager.The unwilling Frenchman

I was not happy with S H`s appointment in the first place, he had no relevant experience. T B likes taking risks with appointments, which may be OK if the odds, ie the quality of the squad are not against you.
If you are going to try and manage with a bargain basement squad , it will need the skills of a seasoned, experienced manager, like the job that Steve Coppell did after we lost the first Ten games in this division. He only just failed to keep us up and given an earlier start might have succeeded. Please don't leave it until the job is impossible this time, another six losses and we should appoint a Coppell/Pulis standard of manager.

Score: -3

arc12
12:02am Sun 17 Aug 14

Shropshirealbion wrote…

Terrible. Worst performance I have seen for 3 years. O'grady worst buy for many a year. Just hope our youngsters can come good and get us through . Something must be wrong with management to get us so quickly to this state of affairs.

Maybe not the worst in 3 years but it was pretty tepid that's for sure (and I had to sit in the home end with a Brum mate!).

I sincerely hope O'Grady comes good but have seen him play all 3 games this season and he looks awful. Yes, he needs service but I think we have been stung by Barnsley for half a million.

Teixeira looked ok but does anyone honestly think he has been pursued for the last 2 months? No. He is a reactionary panic signing (who I hope does well) but where are the targets that the club have been looking at all summer?

I suspect any other new additions we get are also going to be last minute panic signings (probably on loan) just to bolster the numbers.

Someone really needs to carry the can for this summer's fiasco which could prove fatal.

[quote][p][bold]Shropshirealbion[/bold] wrote:
Terrible. Worst performance I have seen for 3 years. O'grady worst buy for many a year. Just hope our youngsters can come good and get us through . Something must be wrong with management to get us so quickly to this state of affairs.[/p][/quote]Maybe not the worst in 3 years but it was pretty tepid that's for sure (and I had to sit in the home end with a Brum mate!).
I sincerely hope O'Grady comes good but have seen him play all 3 games this season and he looks awful. Yes, he needs service but I think we have been stung by Barnsley for half a million.
Teixeira looked ok but does anyone honestly think he has been pursued for the last 2 months? No. He is a reactionary panic signing (who I hope does well) but where are the targets that the club have been looking at all summer?
I suspect any other new additions we get are also going to be last minute panic signings (probably on loan) just to bolster the numbers.
Someone really needs to carry the can for this summer's fiasco which could prove fatal.arc12

Shropshirealbion wrote…

Terrible. Worst performance I have seen for 3 years. O'grady worst buy for many a year. Just hope our youngsters can come good and get us through . Something must be wrong with management to get us so quickly to this state of affairs.

Maybe not the worst in 3 years but it was pretty tepid that's for sure (and I had to sit in the home end with a Brum mate!).

I sincerely hope O'Grady comes good but have seen him play all 3 games this season and he looks awful. Yes, he needs service but I think we have been stung by Barnsley for half a million.

Teixeira looked ok but does anyone honestly think he has been pursued for the last 2 months? No. He is a reactionary panic signing (who I hope does well) but where are the targets that the club have been looking at all summer?

I suspect any other new additions we get are also going to be last minute panic signings (probably on loan) just to bolster the numbers.

Someone really needs to carry the can for this summer's fiasco which could prove fatal.

Score: 7

brighton bluenose
9:50am Sun 17 Aug 14

Opppsss!!! wrote…

So may be now Burke and Barber will do the honourable thing and both resign before it becomes a ? No Points, No Goals, and we don't look like scoring? This is a bloody Joke, we are expected to turn up week in week out and pay our hard earn't cash to watch a second rate team going downwards not upwards, and to top the food is **** so come on TB we have faith in you sack these Bloody clowns and get behind Sami and give him the quality support he needs otherwise we are going to be a laughing stock, and that's a position I'm not at all happy to think about Im feed with failed promises, I now demand action, and as they say ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS!! rep and sow!!

While I understand and largely agree with the antipathy towards Burke and Barber it is Tony Bloom who controls the purse strings so it is Tony Bloom who is failing the fans! On his Seagulls Player interview back in May (?) when talking about the team and possible new manager for the new season I thought he looked shifty and unconvincing and what is happening now just bears that out!

[quote][p][bold]Opppsss!!![/bold] wrote:
So may be now Burke and Barber will do the honourable thing and both resign before it becomes a ? No Points, No Goals, and we don't look like scoring? This is a bloody Joke, we are expected to turn up week in week out and pay our hard earn't cash to watch a second rate team going downwards not upwards, and to top the food is **** so come on TB we have faith in you sack these Bloody clowns and get behind Sami and give him the quality support he needs otherwise we are going to be a laughing stock, and that's a position I'm not at all happy to think about Im feed with failed promises, I now demand action, and as they say ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS!! rep and sow!![/p][/quote]While I understand and largely agree with the antipathy towards Burke and Barber it is Tony Bloom who controls the purse strings so it is Tony Bloom who is failing the fans! On his Seagulls Player interview back in May (?) when talking about the team and possible new manager for the new season I thought he looked shifty and unconvincing and what is happening now just bears that out!brighton bluenose

Opppsss!!! wrote…

So may be now Burke and Barber will do the honourable thing and both resign before it becomes a ? No Points, No Goals, and we don't look like scoring? This is a bloody Joke, we are expected to turn up week in week out and pay our hard earn't cash to watch a second rate team going downwards not upwards, and to top the food is **** so come on TB we have faith in you sack these Bloody clowns and get behind Sami and give him the quality support he needs otherwise we are going to be a laughing stock, and that's a position I'm not at all happy to think about Im feed with failed promises, I now demand action, and as they say ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS!! rep and sow!!

While I understand and largely agree with the antipathy towards Burke and Barber it is Tony Bloom who controls the purse strings so it is Tony Bloom who is failing the fans! On his Seagulls Player interview back in May (?) when talking about the team and possible new manager for the new season I thought he looked shifty and unconvincing and what is happening now just bears that out!

Score: 0

barnieb
2:54pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Albion mascot in 1991 wrote…

Hugothepug wrote…

barnieb wrote…

No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.

See ya!

Why do you have two seasons tickets??... Stick 'em where the sun don't shine... Up your arse that requires two seats??
You won't be missed. Does Edgar street '97 mean anything to you? 150mile round trips to Gillingham? Or do your Albion memories not go further than the Amex?... People need to remember where we were as a football club, how far we've come and that we're lucky to be here at all!!!!

My memories go back to the 60's,i have been a supporter since then.The reason I have 2 tickets is because i take my handicapped son with me.
Shove that in yer pipe.
By the way I marched for the Amex.
My disappointment is that we are going backwards since moving to the Amex and the fans are being taken for mugs.

[quote][p][bold]Albion mascot in 1991[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Hugothepug[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]barnieb[/bold] wrote:
No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.[/p][/quote]See ya![/p][/quote]Why do you have two seasons tickets??... Stick 'em where the sun don't shine... Up your arse that requires two seats??
You won't be missed. Does Edgar street '97 mean anything to you? 150mile round trips to Gillingham? Or do your Albion memories not go further than the Amex?... People need to remember where we were as a football club, how far we've come and that we're lucky to be here at all!!!![/p][/quote]My memories go back to the 60's,i have been a supporter since then.The reason I have 2 tickets is because i take my handicapped son with me.
Shove that in yer pipe.
By the way I marched for the Amex.
My disappointment is that we are going backwards since moving to the Amex and the fans are being taken for mugs.barnieb

Albion mascot in 1991 wrote…

Hugothepug wrote…

barnieb wrote…

No points no goals,Tues night after Leeds away,same stat.You can shove both my season tickets where the sun dont shine.I have had enough of being told to be patient.This seasons team is worse than last seasons and that was worse than the seasons before,we are going backwards and I for one am not wasting any more brain cells on a club that doesn't give a s..t for its long suffering supporters.

See ya!

Why do you have two seasons tickets??... Stick 'em where the sun don't shine... Up your arse that requires two seats??
You won't be missed. Does Edgar street '97 mean anything to you? 150mile round trips to Gillingham? Or do your Albion memories not go further than the Amex?... People need to remember where we were as a football club, how far we've come and that we're lucky to be here at all!!!!

My memories go back to the 60's,i have been a supporter since then.The reason I have 2 tickets is because i take my handicapped son with me.
Shove that in yer pipe.
By the way I marched for the Amex.
My disappointment is that we are going backwards since moving to the Amex and the fans are being taken for mugs.

Score: 1

daveyboy35
3:19pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs wrote…

daveyboy35 wrote…

We might not have a great team but it's still up to the manager to get something out of them!!! And manager that perseveres with agustien and puts Bruno in midfield is in my eyes clueless! He does **** all from the side to get them going! And don't even get me started on blooms **** jones!!!!!

In terms of team selection, what alternatives does he have?

he should still be able to get them motivated and to do the basics, fight for everything and at least string two passes together, last week was dyer this week the same

[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]daveyboy35[/bold] wrote:
We might not have a great team but it's still up to the manager to get something out of them!!! And manager that perseveres with agustien and puts Bruno in midfield is in my eyes clueless! He does **** all from the side to get them going! And don't even get me started on blooms **** jones!!!!![/p][/quote]In terms of team selection, what alternatives does he have?[/p][/quote]he should still be able to get them motivated and to do the basics, fight for everything and at least string two passes together, last week was dyer this week the samedaveyboy35

Albion In Staffs wrote…

daveyboy35 wrote…

We might not have a great team but it's still up to the manager to get something out of them!!! And manager that perseveres with agustien and puts Bruno in midfield is in my eyes clueless! He does **** all from the side to get them going! And don't even get me started on blooms **** jones!!!!!

In terms of team selection, what alternatives does he have?

he should still be able to get them motivated and to do the basics, fight for everything and at least string two passes together, last week was dyer this week the same

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