Thank you kind lady for the welcome. So I read the pages your fishing friend said to do. I see this blog place is for church ladies. I thought it was for dating and fun. Sorry I thought wrong. Very sorry to interrupted your space.

Adios.

Right you are Carlos! *wink*

It seems we live in a world where some people are more offended by swear words and middle fingers.....than they are by famine, homicide, warfare and destruction of our environment! The blogs have become the Domain of the Judgers. But you must understand that when the judgers are unfriendly, condescending, arrogant, offensive, superior, inflamatory or provocative....that doesn't count. Then it is their opinion and they are entitled to their opinion!! They only see when others are not "respectful".

Message to MM: Stop being manipulated by whoever these people are that keep 'telling on' the other bloggers!! If left alone....we WILL police ourselves! It seems to me the church ladies have just about killed the blogs. Best I can tell the blogs are so boring now....that they..... *Yawn*.......zzzzzzzzz.

Quoting CarlosTJ:

@ Curious,

Thank you kind lady for the welcome. So I read the pages your fishing friend said to do. I see this blog place is for church ladies. I thought it was for dating and fun. Sorry I thought wrong. Very sorry to interrupted your space.

Adios.

Right you are Carlos! *wink*

It seems we live in a world where some people are more offended by swear words and middle fingers.....than they are by famine, homicide, warfare and destruction of our environment! The blogs have become the Domain of the Judgers. But you must understand that when the judgers are unfriendly, condescending, arrogant, offensive, superior, inflamatory or provocative....that doesn't count. Then it is their opinion and they are entitled to their opinion!! They only see when others are not "respectful".

Message to MM: Stop being manipulated by whoever these people are that keep 'telling on' the other bloggers!! If left alone....we WILL police ourselves! It seems to me the church ladies have just about killed the blogs. Best I can tell the blogs are so boring now....that they..... *Yawn*.......zzzzzzzzz.

Roger that on the fresh tracks Pat.Last month I had bobcat tracks under my window in the snow that fell as I slept.That was a new set for me so I followed them for a really long ways,seeing how he hunted the woods sticking his head in a likely place to scare a bunny out of hiding.Perfect snowball snow,I could almost see the fur between his toes.

If I was in your neck of the woods I'd like to invite one of those turkeys you folks have home for dinner.

Quoting Curious2078:

Amen.

And you're right about the woods for sure. And with snow on the ground, it's a thrill to hunt for critter tracks and see how many different ones I can find.

Quoting Curious2078:

Amen.

And you're right about the woods for sure. And with snow on the ground, it's a thrill to hunt for critter tracks and see how many different ones I can find.

Roger that on the fresh tracks Pat.Last month I had bobcat tracks under my window in the snow that fell as I slept.That was a new set for me so I followed them for a really long ways,seeing how he hunted the woods sticking his head in a likely place to scare a bunny out of hiding.Perfect snowball snow,I could almost see the fur between his toes.

If I was in your neck of the woods I'd like to invite one of those turkeys you folks have home for dinner.

Try going back the last 6 pages,Every blog.You'll see many quotes from Voyager that leads up to this blog.After you do that then you might understand what we're talking about.

Quoting CarlosTJ:

I don't see any stuff in the blogs that you say about a voyager. You say its now fun again but use vulgar words like " crap , shyt " and such. I am confused. Excuse me, this blog smells of bad fish and some angry people.

Quoting CarlosTJ:

I don't see any stuff in the blogs that you say about a voyager. You say its now fun again but use vulgar words like " crap , shyt " and such. I am confused. Excuse me, this blog smells of bad fish and some angry people.

Try going back the last 6 pages,Every blog.You'll see many quotes from Voyager that leads up to this blog.After you do that then you might understand what we're talking about.

You don't see any "stuff" about Voyager in the blogs because most of V's posts were removed when he was removed from MM. Had you read everything he ever wrote, you'd understand why some people are still fuming over his behavior on here.

As for your objection to Fishyme's language, you're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I, for one have no objection to his language, and since it is my blog, Fishyme's language will remain in place unless MM chooses to delete it.

Carlos, you'll find all kinds of blogs on here, and quite a few of them are rife with anger. I certainly hope you don't plan on spending your time here in blogland critiquing all of them and us rather than contributing something interesting to them.

Quoting CarlosTJ:

I don't see any stuff in the blogs that you say about a voyager. You say its now fun again but use vulgar words like " crap , shyt " and such. I am confused. Excuse me, this blog smells of bad fish and some angry people.

Quoting CarlosTJ:

I don't see any stuff in the blogs that you say about a voyager. You say its now fun again but use vulgar words like " crap , shyt " and such. I am confused. Excuse me, this blog smells of bad fish and some angry people.

Hello Carlos.

Are you new to the blogs? If so, welcome.

You don't see any "stuff" about Voyager in the blogs because most of V's posts were removed when he was removed from MM. Had you read everything he ever wrote, you'd understand why some people are still fuming over his behavior on here.

As for your objection to Fishyme's language, you're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I, for one have no objection to his language, and since it is my blog, Fishyme's language will remain in place unless MM chooses to delete it.

Carlos, you'll find all kinds of blogs on here, and quite a few of them are rife with anger. I certainly hope you don't plan on spending your time here in blogland critiquing all of them and us rather than contributing something interesting to them.

And you're right about the woods for sure. And with snow on the ground, it's a thrill to hunt for critter tracks and see how many different ones I can find.

Quoting fishyme:

For all Voyager has,I really think we're all he had.He'll be out in the world someday pulling his crap and end up finding someone who REALLY doesn't give a shyt.If he's lucky he'll survive.

So blogging looks like its getting back to being fun again,like the rest of you it will be good to put this to rest.I live in the woods far from people for a reason.They were starting to be more entertaining than the blogs for awhile.

Quoting fishyme:

For all Voyager has,I really think we're all he had.He'll be out in the world someday pulling his crap and end up finding someone who REALLY doesn't give a shyt.If he's lucky he'll survive.

So blogging looks like its getting back to being fun again,like the rest of you it will be good to put this to rest.I live in the woods far from people for a reason.They were starting to be more entertaining than the blogs for awhile.

Amen.

And you're right about the woods for sure. And with snow on the ground, it's a thrill to hunt for critter tracks and see how many different ones I can find.

For all Voyager has,I really think we're all he had.He'll be out in the world someday pulling his crap and end up finding someone who REALLY doesn't give a shyt.If he's lucky he'll survive.

So blogging looks like its getting back to being fun again,like the rest of you it will be good to put this to rest.I live in the woods far from people for a reason.They were starting to be more entertaining than the blogs for awhile.

For all Voyager has,I really think we're all he had.He'll be out in the world someday pulling his crap and end up finding someone who REALLY doesn't give a shyt.If he's lucky he'll survive.

So blogging looks like its getting back to being fun again,like the rest of you it will be good to put this to rest.I live in the woods far from people for a reason.They were starting to be more entertaining than the blogs for awhile.

I'm glad to see everyone has taken the chance to clear the air regarding Voyager. Whether or not he qualifies as a bona fide Troll, he certainly caused the kind of negative drama that trolls like to cause. They can be awfully entertaining sometimes, but in the end they usually wind up hurting some people's feelings awfully. V wasn't the first "troll" on here and he won't be the last. Now that this troll has been driven back under his bridge, I hope we can all say Sayonara and move on.

Quoting Dakota35:

Hey Pat, We all know where you stand. You echoed to Voyager what I had already tried to tell him a few times before. What was funny is that some could get on his case severely and he would never confront them, while with others he would throw a tantrum. You know we all love you Pat...okay well at least I do. :)

Quoting Dakota35:

Hey Pat, We all know where you stand. You echoed to Voyager what I had already tried to tell him a few times before. What was funny is that some could get on his case severely and he would never confront them, while with others he would throw a tantrum. You know we all love you Pat...okay well at least I do. :)

Thank you, Dakota. I love you too. :)

I'm glad to see everyone has taken the chance to clear the air regarding Voyager. Whether or not he qualifies as a bona fide Troll, he certainly caused the kind of negative drama that trolls like to cause. They can be awfully entertaining sometimes, but in the end they usually wind up hurting some people's feelings awfully. V wasn't the first "troll" on here and he won't be the last. Now that this troll has been driven back under his bridge, I hope we can all say Sayonara and move on.

I would say I do a pretty decent job of staying current in a classy way. The bottom line is I know myself well and laughed a few times, he was reaching alright, in every direction he could with me. It is quite unfortunite that he has some hard issues to deal with and that he made me deal with them too!

Time to look forward!!

Quoting Dakota35:

Well, I for one didn't and don't agree with him. I did read where he insulted you and your looks, and I remember thinking...Jenkneee looks cute in that photo. V was angrier at himself than anyone...but there is no excuse for his behavior...at least not after being warned by so many.

Quoting Dakota35:

Well, I for one didn't and don't agree with him. I did read where he insulted you and your looks, and I remember thinking...Jenkneee looks cute in that photo. V was angrier at himself than anyone...but there is no excuse for his behavior...at least not after being warned by so many.

Thank-you Dakota :)

I would say I do a pretty decent job of staying current in a classy way. The bottom line is I know myself well and laughed a few times, he was reaching alright, in every direction he could with me. It is quite unfortunite that he has some hard issues to deal with and that he made me deal with them too!

Well, I for one didn't and don't agree with him. I did read where he insulted you and your looks, and I remember thinking...Jenkneee looks cute in that photo. V was angrier at himself than anyone...but there is no excuse for his behavior...at least not after being warned by so many.

Quoting Jenkneee:

What rosy colored glasses some of you are wearing while looking at Voyager !! He got kicked off the site for several remarks he made and got kicked off more than once!! He was a cyber bully and stalker who threatened me, called me a b****, insulted my looks, my posts, my morals and my beliefs, etc.. Not only did he do all that but he took it upon himself to speak for ALL of you!! Maybe you agree with him but no one speaks for me with negative comments.

IF I was on his level, I would have commented on a lot more, like his keg belly, etc., including a death threat and saying I am going to his location to find him and make him my slave would have been "tit for tat". He bullied me every other day for approx. 6 weeks. You either didn't catch it all or those were the rosiest colored glasses ever!!

P.S. I did and do appreciate any support in my favor but the criticism and gossip just adds to what he did. Personally,I would not want to be associated with anyone who behaves this way. He's gone, let's wrap this up and move on, it's a new year! There are plenty of topics to use that energy on... politics, current events, our constitution being destroyed by our socialist president...your wants, your goals, your failures or successes. I don't expect all positive posts but I do prefer people to focus on current issues.

Quoting Jenkneee:

What rosy colored glasses some of you are wearing while looking at Voyager !! He got kicked off the site for several remarks he made and got kicked off more than once!! He was a cyber bully and stalker who threatened me, called me a b****, insulted my looks, my posts, my morals and my beliefs, etc.. Not only did he do all that but he took it upon himself to speak for ALL of you!! Maybe you agree with him but no one speaks for me with negative comments.

IF I was on his level, I would have commented on a lot more, like his keg belly, etc., including a death threat and saying I am going to his location to find him and make him my slave would have been "tit for tat". He bullied me every other day for approx. 6 weeks. You either didn't catch it all or those were the rosiest colored glasses ever!!

P.S. I did and do appreciate any support in my favor but the criticism and gossip just adds to what he did. Personally,I would not want to be associated with anyone who behaves this way. He's gone, let's wrap this up and move on, it's a new year! There are plenty of topics to use that energy on... politics, current events, our constitution being destroyed by our socialist president...your wants, your goals, your failures or successes. I don't expect all positive posts but I do prefer people to focus on current issues.

Well, I for one didn't and don't agree with him. I did read where he insulted you and your looks, and I remember thinking...Jenkneee looks cute in that photo. V was angrier at himself than anyone...but there is no excuse for his behavior...at least not after being warned by so many.

Hey Pat, We all know where you stand. You echoed to Voyager what I had already tried to tell him a few times before. What was funny is that some could get on his case severely and he would never confront them, while with others he would throw a tantrum. You know we all love you Pat...okay well at least I do. :)

Quoting Curious2078:

Hi, Fishy & Hope.

I'm going to hijack my own blog. Another one of our regular bloggers has written to me privately asking me why I would ever wonder what happened to Voyager.

Folks, I had no idea that Voyager had turned so nasty that he'd been kicked off MM again. I'm not sure where I posted my remarks; a quick search yielded nothing. So I'm making my apologies--if I've offended or confused anyone--here. I thought about a new blog about the issue, but I thought that would just bring the issue back into a much clearer focus than most people here would want to see.

If either of you are in touch with any of the folks who thought I was way off base to ask about Voyager, I hope you'll let them know--because other than the blogger who wrote to me, I don't know who they are--that I had no idea what was going on. I don't check in on a daily basis these days; sometimes not for two weeks or more.

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL.

Pat

Quoting Curious2078:

Hi, Fishy & Hope.

I'm going to hijack my own blog. Another one of our regular bloggers has written to me privately asking me why I would ever wonder what happened to Voyager.

Folks, I had no idea that Voyager had turned so nasty that he'd been kicked off MM again. I'm not sure where I posted my remarks; a quick search yielded nothing. So I'm making my apologies--if I've offended or confused anyone--here. I thought about a new blog about the issue, but I thought that would just bring the issue back into a much clearer focus than most people here would want to see.

If either of you are in touch with any of the folks who thought I was way off base to ask about Voyager, I hope you'll let them know--because other than the blogger who wrote to me, I don't know who they are--that I had no idea what was going on. I don't check in on a daily basis these days; sometimes not for two weeks or more.

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL.

Pat

Hey Pat, We all know where you stand. You echoed to Voyager what I had already tried to tell him a few times before. What was funny is that some could get on his case severely and he would never confront them, while with others he would throw a tantrum. You know we all love you Pat...okay well at least I do. :)

What rosy colored glasses some of you are wearing while looking at Voyager !! He got kicked off the site for several remarks he made and got kicked off more than once!! He was a cyber bully and stalker who threatened me, called me a b****, insulted my looks, my posts, my morals and my beliefs, etc.. Not only did he do all that but he took it upon himself to speak for ALL of you!! Maybe you agree with him but no one speaks for me with negative comments.

IF I was on his level, I would have commented on a lot more, like his keg belly, etc., including a death threat and saying I am going to his location to find him and make him my slave would have been "tit for tat". He bullied me every other day for approx. 6 weeks. You either didn't catch it all or those were the rosiest colored glasses ever!!

P.S. I did and do appreciate any support in my favor but the criticism and gossip just adds to what he did. Personally,I would not want to be associated with anyone who behaves this way. He's gone, let's wrap this up and move on, it's a new year! There are plenty of topics to use that energy on... politics, current events, our constitution being destroyed by our socialist president...your wants, your goals, your failures or successes. I don't expect all positive posts but I do prefer people to focus on current issues.

What rosy colored glasses some of you are wearing while looking at Voyager !! He got kicked off the site for several remarks he made and got kicked off more than once!! He was a cyber bully and stalker who threatened me, called me a b****, insulted my looks, my posts, my morals and my beliefs, etc.. Not only did he do all that but he took it upon himself to speak for ALL of you!! Maybe you agree with him but no one speaks for me with negative comments.

IF I was on his level, I would have commented on a lot more, like his keg belly, etc., including a death threat and saying I am going to his location to find him and make him my slave would have been "tit for tat". He bullied me every other day for approx. 6 weeks. You either didn't catch it all or those were the rosiest colored glasses ever!!

P.S. I did and do appreciate any support in my favor but the criticism and gossip just adds to what he did. Personally,I would not want to be associated with anyone who behaves this way. He's gone, let's wrap this up and move on, it's a new year! There are plenty of topics to use that energy on... politics, current events, our constitution being destroyed by our socialist president...your wants, your goals, your failures or successes. I don't expect all positive posts but I do prefer people to focus on current issues.

Here we go!! I may have disagreed but "attacked" is a strong word to use. How bout in this new year we stop the gossiping and leave the past where it belongs? Act like adults when we disagree?

I would appreciate being left out of the drama completely.

Quoting Diana3316:

Fishy~

In the last year and a half, I have had at least 6 phone conversations with Voyager…..all lasting 3-5 hours each. We talked about everything under the sun. Although we differ vastly on a variety of topics, being both 1st generation eastern European.....I think we are friends. Now I’m not going to say that I know everything about him, but take it from a woman who has had a fair amount of experience with men who enjoy alcohol too much…..V does not seem to me to be one of them.During all of our conversations, he was clear minded, lucid and definitely not drinking.

I saw what precipitated his expulsion and there is no doubt that he self-destructed, but there is something way different happening here then what may appear on the surface. Some may remember when Jenknee attacked CG for NO reason at all....she also initiated an attack on me. Hope and Pat will remember these incidents. There are always two sides.

I am not condoning V's behavior, as in fact I have witnessed him to be ill-tempered from time to time. But you know...I'm sure we all have folks in our family that are not perfect. There are ways to manage this if you truly love. There were lots of nasty words, baiting and threats coming from the other side as well.

Quoting Diana3316:

Fishy~

In the last year and a half, I have had at least 6 phone conversations with Voyager…..all lasting 3-5 hours each. We talked about everything under the sun. Although we differ vastly on a variety of topics, being both 1st generation eastern European.....I think we are friends. Now I’m not going to say that I know everything about him, but take it from a woman who has had a fair amount of experience with men who enjoy alcohol too much…..V does not seem to me to be one of them.During all of our conversations, he was clear minded, lucid and definitely not drinking.

I saw what precipitated his expulsion and there is no doubt that he self-destructed, but there is something way different happening here then what may appear on the surface. Some may remember when Jenknee attacked CG for NO reason at all....she also initiated an attack on me. Hope and Pat will remember these incidents. There are always two sides.

I am not condoning V's behavior, as in fact I have witnessed him to be ill-tempered from time to time. But you know...I'm sure we all have folks in our family that are not perfect. There are ways to manage this if you truly love. There were lots of nasty words, baiting and threats coming from the other side as well.

Here we go!! I may have disagreed but "attacked" is a strong word to use. How bout in this new year we stop the gossiping and leave the past where it belongs? Act like adults when we disagree?

Sence we're being highjacked Pat,I was so fed up with how things were going I started checking on "cyber stalking".By far,Jenkneee was the target of his cyber stalking but also others felt his sting,for NO reason whatsoever.I feel there was to much booze for a spoiled little monarch with woo is me syndrome,but hey,maybe I've crab fished to much.Man up or shut up.

Years ago on here the pig farmer,SpoiluRotton,was easy,"Spoils,do you sell the piglets that look like you or do you kill them so nobody finds out?"

V has a bloodline he was insulting,it would have taken me a little longer to write 1 post.

Sence we're being highjacked Pat,I was so fed up with how things were going I started checking on "cyber stalking".By far,Jenkneee was the target of his cyber stalking but also others felt his sting,for NO reason whatsoever.I feel there was to much booze for a spoiled little monarch with woo is me syndrome,but hey,maybe I've crab fished to much.Man up or shut up.

Years ago on here the pig farmer,SpoiluRotton,was easy,"Spoils,do you sell the piglets that look like you or do you kill them so nobody finds out?"

V has a bloodline he was insulting,it would have taken me a little longer to write 1 post.

I'm going to hijack my own blog. Another one of our regular bloggers has written to me privately asking me why I would ever wonder what happened to Voyager.

Folks, I had no idea that Voyager had turned so nasty that he'd been kicked off MM again. I'm not sure where I posted my remarks; a quick search yielded nothing. So I'm making my apologies--if I've offended or confused anyone--here. I thought about a new blog about the issue, but I thought that would just bring the issue back into a much clearer focus than most people here would want to see.

If either of you are in touch with any of the folks who thought I was way off base to ask about Voyager, I hope you'll let them know--because other than the blogger who wrote to me, I don't know who they are--that I had no idea what was going on. I don't check in on a daily basis these days; sometimes not for two weeks or more.

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL.

Pat

Hi, Fishy & Hope.

I'm going to hijack my own blog. Another one of our regular bloggers has written to me privately asking me why I would ever wonder what happened to Voyager.

Folks, I had no idea that Voyager had turned so nasty that he'd been kicked off MM again. I'm not sure where I posted my remarks; a quick search yielded nothing. So I'm making my apologies--if I've offended or confused anyone--here. I thought about a new blog about the issue, but I thought that would just bring the issue back into a much clearer focus than most people here would want to see.

If either of you are in touch with any of the folks who thought I was way off base to ask about Voyager, I hope you'll let them know--because other than the blogger who wrote to me, I don't know who they are--that I had no idea what was going on. I don't check in on a daily basis these days; sometimes not for two weeks or more.