1niksder wrote:Any way you look at it 'the Danny" still is only one step away from the HC. Bruce needs to be the Prez of Football Ops, and he needs to hire a GM. That would put two people in between "the Danny" and HC

THAT is a concern to me ...

I know that Mike is most likely here next season and so things are not likely to change at the top ...

give me Bruce Allen as President of Football Operations and Bill Polian as GM

- then I'd like to see Mike out as HC and for him to take Kyle with him ...

If BA was given the title of "President of Football Operations" and named Bill Polian as GM --- wouldn't that go against MS's contract. Doesn't it stipulate in MS' contract that he has input on all "football decisions".

So if that were to happen, MS would be out of here that day ---- so you wouldn't be a "then". It would all happen concurrently.

1niksder wrote:Any way you look at it 'the Danny" still is only one step away from the HC. Bruce needs to be the Prez of Football Ops, and he needs to hire a GM. That would put two people in between "the Danny" and HC

I would like that. Anything to get Danny further away from making football related decisions.

That said -- never gonna happen. Danny, being as narcastic as they come, couldn't do that to himself.

Do we have any actual evidence that he has had anything to do with football operations in the last 3 years to counter the evidence we have that he has not? w/r/t to that evidence, I've not seen him at a signing, heard about him in a negotiation or heard his name in the paper, period. In fact the only time i remember him doing anything in the last 3 years was going to meet RGIII at baylor. And that doesn't seem overly odd for your franchise QB.

I know he got a pretty good zip on the ball. He has a quick release. . . once I seen a coupla' throws, I was just like 'Yeah, he's that dude.'"

1niksder wrote:Any way you look at it 'the Danny" still is only one step away from the HC. Bruce needs to be the Prez of Football Ops, and he needs to hire a GM. That would put two people in between "the Danny" and HC

I would like that. Anything to get Danny further away from making football related decisions.

That said -- never gonna happen. Danny, being as narcastic as they come, couldn't do that to himself.

Do we have any actual evidence that he has had anything to do with football operations in the last 3 years to counter the evidence we have that he has not? w/r/t to that evidence, I've not seen him at a signing, heard about him in a negotiation or heard his name in the paper, period. In fact the only time i remember him doing anything in the last 3 years was going to meet RGIII at baylor. And that doesn't seem overly odd for your franchise QB.

Do we actually need any evidence. I think for the most part whether BA is MS boss or not, the arrogance of MS no way Bill Polian is brought in. The way Snyder is stuck on past I am shocked that Charlie Casserly hasn't been brought back as some type of consultant.......SMDH!!!

I have seen nothing to indicate Snyder is involved with the managing of this franchise since Mike & Bruce took over

I have seen nothing to indicate that Mike Shanahan is NOT in charge of the FO

Due to the acquisition/trade that resulted in RG3 coming here - I think Mike is here for 1 more season at least ... unless there is a bad letdown here the next 6 games

Snyder will leave things the way they are ... for now

I'd love to have Bruce and Bill in charge of the FO here with a new HC but I doubt that happens

P A T I E N C E - Scot & Jay's goal here is to make this franchise better - it will take time they understand the need to change to primarily building through the draft - plus have some luck go their way

1niksder wrote:Any way you look at it 'the Danny" still is only one step away from the HC. Bruce needs to be the Prez of Football Ops, and he needs to hire a GM. That would put two people in between "the Danny" and HC

I would like that. Anything to get Danny further away from making football related decisions.

That said -- never gonna happen. Danny, being as narcastic as they come, couldn't do that to himself.

Do we have any actual evidence that he has had anything to do with football operations in the last 3 years to counter the evidence we have that he has not? w/r/t to that evidence, I've not seen him at a signing, heard about him in a negotiation or heard his name in the paper, period. In fact the only time i remember him doing anything in the last 3 years was going to meet RGIII at baylor. And that doesn't seem overly odd for your franchise QB.

"Where is the evidence" is a defense most commonly used by guilty criminals........

1niksder wrote:Any way you look at it 'the Danny" still is only one step away from the HC. Bruce needs to be the Prez of Football Ops, and he needs to hire a GM. That would put two people in between "the Danny" and HC

I would like that. Anything to get Danny further away from making football related decisions.

That said -- never gonna happen. Danny, being as narcastic as they come, couldn't do that to himself.

Do we have any actual evidence that he has had anything to do with football operations in the last 3 years to counter the evidence we have that he has not? w/r/t to that evidence, I've not seen him at a signing, heard about him in a negotiation or heard his name in the paper, period. In fact the only time i remember him doing anything in the last 3 years was going to meet RGIII at baylor. And that doesn't seem overly odd for your franchise QB.

"Where is the evidence" is a defense most commonly used by guilty criminals........

Um. . . "where is the evidence?" is the kind of THE question upon which punishment, rehabilitation, liability (for the most part) and obligation is founded in the law. Without evidence, well we're kind of just makin ish up as we go along, right? Its the starting point for a prosecution, a defense, and the trier of fact.

Put another way; if we don't have to come up with evidence to support the words coming out of our mouths and the positions we take aren't we really talking out of our ?

I know he got a pretty good zip on the ball. He has a quick release. . . once I seen a coupla' throws, I was just like 'Yeah, he's that dude.'"

1niksder wrote:Any way you look at it 'the Danny" still is only one step away from the HC. Bruce needs to be the Prez of Football Ops, and he needs to hire a GM. That would put two people in between "the Danny" and HC

I would like that. Anything to get Danny further away from making football related decisions.

That said -- never gonna happen. Danny, being as narcastic as they come, couldn't do that to himself.

Do we have any actual evidence that he has had anything to do with football operations in the last 3 years to counter the evidence we have that he has not? w/r/t to that evidence, I've not seen him at a signing, heard about him in a negotiation or heard his name in the paper, period. In fact the only time i remember him doing anything in the last 3 years was going to meet RGIII at baylor. And that doesn't seem overly odd for your franchise QB.

"Where is the evidence" is a defense most commonly used by guilty criminals........

Um. . . "where is the evidence?" is the kind of THE question upon which punishment, rehabilitation, liability (for the most part) and obligation is founded in the law. Without evidence, well we're kind of just makin ish up as we go along, right? Its the starting point for a prosecution, a defense, and the trier of fact.

Put another way; if we don't have to come up with evidence to support the words coming out of our mouths and the positions we take aren't we really talking out of our ?

Not sure you really caught what I was saying...... and I'm not going to get in an arguement over the evidentiary process in legal prosecutions --- since this is a REDSKINS forum.....

But "put another way", in my experience -- "where's the evidence" is typically used by guilty criminals that have disposed of it........

1niksder wrote:Any way you look at it 'the Danny" still is only one step away from the HC. Bruce needs to be the Prez of Football Ops, and he needs to hire a GM. That would put two people in between "the Danny" and HC

I would like that. Anything to get Danny further away from making football related decisions.

That said -- never gonna happen. Danny, being as narcastic as they come, couldn't do that to himself.

Do we have any actual evidence that he has had anything to do with football operations in the last 3 years to counter the evidence we have that he has not? w/r/t to that evidence, I've not seen him at a signing, heard about him in a negotiation or heard his name in the paper, period. In fact the only time i remember him doing anything in the last 3 years was going to meet RGIII at baylor. And that doesn't seem overly odd for your franchise QB.

"Where is the evidence" is a defense most commonly used by guilty criminals........

emoses14 wrote:Do we have any actual evidence that he has had anything to do with football operations in the last 3 years to counter the evidence we have that he has not? w/r/t to that evidence, I've not seen him at a signing, heard about him in a negotiation or heard his name in the paper, period. In fact the only time i remember him doing anything in the last 3 years was going to meet RGIII at baylor. And that doesn't seem overly odd for your franchise QB.

"Where is the evidence" is a defense most commonly used by guilty criminals........

Guilt by association is an attack most commonly used by prosecutors without a case — but more importantly, it's fallacious.

"I’m never under the assumption that you draft for need. You draft the best available football player on the board. ... Because, in the long run, they are the ones who will help you win the most games." - Scot McCloughan

1niksder wrote:Any way you look at it 'the Danny" still is only one step away from the HC. Bruce needs to be the Prez of Football Ops, and he needs to hire a GM. That would put two people in between "the Danny" and HC

I would like that. Anything to get Danny further away from making football related decisions.

That said -- never gonna happen. Danny, being as narcastic as they come, couldn't do that to himself.

Do we have any actual evidence that he has had anything to do with football operations in the last 3 years to counter the evidence we have that he has not? w/r/t to that evidence, I've not seen him at a signing, heard about him in a negotiation or heard his name in the paper, period. In fact the only time i remember him doing anything in the last 3 years was going to meet RGIII at baylor. And that doesn't seem overly odd for your franchise QB.

"Where is the evidence" is a defense most commonly used by guilty criminals........

Um. . . "where is the evidence?" is the kind of THE question upon which punishment, rehabilitation, liability (for the most part) and obligation is founded in the law. Without evidence, well we're kind of just makin ish up as we go along, right? Its the starting point for a prosecution, a defense, and the trier of fact.

Put another way; if we don't have to come up with evidence to support the words coming out of our mouths and the positions we take aren't we really talking out of our ?

Not sure you really caught what I was saying...... and I'm not going to get in an arguement over the evidentiary process in legal prosecutions --- since this is a REDSKINS forum.....

But "put another way", in my experience -- "where's the evidence" is typically used by guilty criminals that have disposed of it........

We all can speculate and discuss what we all feel we have seen and read regarding the front office or lack thereof depending on your point of view. However until we are a fly on the wall for a few days we all really don't know. We can only hope that Snyder finally get's it right.....

there is proof that Snyder has not been involved with things to do with on the field activities

this franchise has a good QB (actually 2) & This franchise is getting better - If Snyder WERE involved that would not have happened

P A T I E N C E - Scot & Jay's goal here is to make this franchise better - it will take time they understand the need to change to primarily building through the draft - plus have some luck go their way

1niksder wrote:Any way you look at it 'the Danny" still is only one step away from the HC. Bruce needs to be the Prez of Football Ops, and he needs to hire a GM. That would put two people in between "the Danny" and HC

I would like that. Anything to get Danny further away from making football related decisions.

That said -- never gonna happen. Danny, being as narcastic as they come, couldn't do that to himself.

Do we have any actual evidence that he has had anything to do with football operations in the last 3 years to counter the evidence we have that he has not? w/r/t to that evidence, I've not seen him at a signing, heard about him in a negotiation or heard his name in the paper, period. In fact the only time i remember him doing anything in the last 3 years was going to meet RGIII at baylor. And that doesn't seem overly odd for your franchise QB.

"Where is the evidence" is a defense most commonly used by guilty criminals........

Um. . . "where is the evidence?" is the kind of THE question upon which punishment, rehabilitation, liability (for the most part) and obligation is founded in the law. Without evidence, well we're kind of just makin ish up as we go along, right? Its the starting point for a prosecution, a defense, and the trier of fact.

Put another way; if we don't have to come up with evidence to support the words coming out of our mouths and the positions we take aren't we really talking out of our ?

Not sure you really caught what I was saying...... and I'm not going to get in an arguement over the evidentiary process in legal prosecutions --- since this is a REDSKINS forum.....

But "put another way", in my experience -- "where's the evidence" is typically used by guilty criminals that have disposed of it........

I have to agree. I've been one of the biggest Snyder bashers since he fired Marty. But I've seen no reason to think he's still been involved in the football operations.

Dans been doing what most of us fans have wanted: staying out of the way and letting people who know what they're doing do their jobs. Since he's been doing that I've let the past stay in past. He's made some mistakes but, as of right now, he's trying to atone for them and get the team back on track.

I don't have to sell my soul,
He's already in me,
I don't need to sell my soul,
He's already in me.
I wanna be adored
I wanna be adored.

1niksder wrote:Any way you look at it 'the Danny" still is only one step away from the HC. Bruce needs to be the Prez of Football Ops, and he needs to hire a GM. That would put two people in between "the Danny" and HC

I would like that. Anything to get Danny further away from making football related decisions.

That said -- never gonna happen. Danny, being as narcastic as they come, couldn't do that to himself.

Do we have any actual evidence that he has had anything to do with football operations in the last 3 years to counter the evidence we have that he has not? w/r/t to that evidence, I've not seen him at a signing, heard about him in a negotiation or heard his name in the paper, period. In fact the only time i remember him doing anything in the last 3 years was going to meet RGIII at baylor. And that doesn't seem overly odd for your franchise QB.

"Where is the evidence" is a defense most commonly used by guilty criminals........

Um. . . "where is the evidence?" is the kind of THE question upon which punishment, rehabilitation, liability (for the most part) and obligation is founded in the law. Without evidence, well we're kind of just makin ish up as we go along, right? Its the starting point for a prosecution, a defense, and the trier of fact.

Put another way; if we don't have to come up with evidence to support the words coming out of our mouths and the positions we take aren't we really talking out of our ?

Not sure you really caught what I was saying...... and I'm not going to get in an arguement over the evidentiary process in legal prosecutions --- since this is a REDSKINS forum.....

But "put another way", in my experience -- "where's the evidence" is typically used by guilty criminals that have disposed of it........

I have to agree. I've been one of the biggest Snyder bashers since he fired Marty. But I've seen no reason to think he's still been involved in the football operations.

Dans been doing what most of us fans have wanted: staying out of the way and letting people who know what they're doing do their jobs. Since he's been doing that I've let the past stay in past. He's made some mistakes but, as of right now, he's trying to atone for them and get the team back on track.

I don't have to sell my soul,
He's already in me,
I don't need to sell my soul,
He's already in me.
I wanna be adored
I wanna be adored.

Snyder SUCKS - The Redskins are doing fine BECAUSE he's NOT involved ... that's a GOOD thing ...

P A T I E N C E - Scot & Jay's goal here is to make this franchise better - it will take time they understand the need to change to primarily building through the draft - plus have some luck go their way