This stuff is beyond belief. Talking about the same ‘deal’ here. They are all truly desperate now. Never mind taking back control, losing control of their Arses more like.

May’s customs plan (now adopted by Surrender Johnson) was vehemently rejected by Brexiters as impractical. Jacob Rees-Mogg, the then chair of the hardline European Research Group of Tory MPs, described it as “completely cretinous, impractical, bureaucratic and a betrayal of common sense”.

But Rees-Mogg, who is now leader of the House of Commons, made clear on Sunday he and other leavers were prepared to compromise.

“Boris Johnson is … somebody who even the most arch-Eurosceptic, even a member of the Brexit party, can trust and have confidence in,” he said.

Plus, how utterly cretinous and a betrayal of common sense is that last sentence.

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:26 - Oct 13 by Flashberryjack

In your biased opinion.

A Queen’s speech is supposed to outline a government’s legislative priorities for the upcoming session. Given that this government doesn’t have a majority so can’t pass any legislation and there’s going to be an election before long which will necessitate another Queen’s speech, it’s pretty pointless other than as a pre-election gimmick. If your biased opinion tells you otherwise then crack on.

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:36 - Oct 13 by exiledclaseboy

A Queen’s speech is supposed to outline a government’s legislative priorities for the upcoming session. Given that this government doesn’t have a majority so can’t pass any legislation and there’s going to be an election before long which will necessitate another Queen’s speech, it’s pretty pointless other than as a pre-election gimmick. If your biased opinion tells you otherwise then crack on.

All queens speeches are completely pointless.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.

“We’re close to a deal but we have to have the extension (mandated by law) to the end of January so that we can finalise negotiations and get the necessary legislation through parliament. Now can we have an election please”.

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:17 - Oct 13 by monmouth

This stuff is beyond belief. Talking about the same ‘deal’ here. They are all truly desperate now. Never mind taking back control, losing control of their Arses more like.

May’s customs plan (now adopted by Surrender Johnson) was vehemently rejected by Brexiters as impractical. Jacob Rees-Mogg, the then chair of the hardline European Research Group of Tory MPs, described it as “completely cretinous, impractical, bureaucratic and a betrayal of common sense”.

But Rees-Mogg, who is now leader of the House of Commons, made clear on Sunday he and other leavers were prepared to compromise.

“Boris Johnson is … somebody who even the most arch-Eurosceptic, even a member of the Brexit party, can trust and have confidence in,” he said.

Plus, how utterly cretinous and a betrayal of common sense is that last sentence.

All those ERG sh1tbags ought to be fitted with reversing beepers.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:16 - Oct 13 by Flashberryjack

What is the criteria ?

I can apply for permanent residency after living here five years, and Spanish citizenship after living here ten. Whether I would go the whole hog I don't know, since it involves revoking your current nationality. There is virtually no difference in practical terms, subject to Brexit of course, but I have no plans to come back to the UK.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 22:06 - Oct 13 with 856 views

In March I took dual nationality here in Germany. The qualifying period was 8 years residency. Post Brexit I’d have had to have given up UK nationality. I actually received a letter from the German authorities in November encouraging me to apply. The application was also fast tracked and took only 8 weeks. I asked the civil servant who was dealing with my case for the reason. He said it was for organizational reasons. Post Brexit they expected a lot of work, resulting from UK employees who didn’t meet the requirements, applying for residence/work permits.

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 22:06 - Oct 13 by longlostjack

In March I took dual nationality here in Germany. The qualifying period was 8 years residency. Post Brexit I’d have had to have given up UK nationality. I actually received a letter from the German authorities in November encouraging me to apply. The application was also fast tracked and took only 8 weeks. I asked the civil servant who was dealing with my case for the reason. He said it was for organizational reasons. Post Brexit they expected a lot of work, resulting from UK employees who didn’t meet the requirements, applying for residence/work permits.

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Been to Germany a couple of times and met a few on my travels ( not in Spain or the such like) and found the people to be very warm and friendly. Nice place to live.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:36 - Oct 13 by exiledclaseboy

A Queen’s speech is supposed to outline a government’s legislative priorities for the upcoming session. Given that this government doesn’t have a majority so can’t pass any legislation and there’s going to be an election before long which will necessitate another Queen’s speech, it’s pretty pointless other than as a pre-election gimmick. If your biased opinion tells you otherwise then crack on.

I did like the bit where they wanted to make it really difficult for 6m or so people, disproportionately in non-Tory areas, to vote in the future. Johnson's gone full Trump there.

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 10:05 - Oct 14 by bluey_the_blue

Yeah because god forbid nobody ever votes illegally.

I mean, ok, so the Peterborough by election featured Corbyn pictured with a Labour activist previously jailed for postal vote rigging...

One conviction in 2017. One. The problem doesn't exist beyond the occasional issue, and certainly not to the scale required to justify the blatant attempt to supress the elctoral rights of minorities and disadvantaged communities,or in other words the ones who don't have photo IDs such as passports because they can't afford to go abroad.

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 10:31 - Oct 14 by Uxbridge

One conviction in 2017. One. The problem doesn't exist beyond the occasional issue, and certainly not to the scale required to justify the blatant attempt to supress the elctoral rights of minorities and disadvantaged communities,or in other words the ones who don't have photo IDs such as passports because they can't afford to go abroad.

Taken from social media.

You need ID to

Buy alcohol Buy cigarettes Rent a house Open a bank account Get a job Claim benefits Go abroad Drive a car Be on a college campus

ID required to vote? Voter suppression!

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Postal voting has always been dodgy as fvck and you know it - those "minorities and disadvantaged communities" you're championing have been prone to have people "helping" them by posting the forms - all of which tend to favour Labour.

Where no passport, driving licence available then I personally think there should be some sort of "national identity card".

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 10:38 - Oct 14 by bluey_the_blue

Taken from social media.

You need ID to

Buy alcohol Buy cigarettes Rent a house Open a bank account Get a job Claim benefits Go abroad Drive a car Be on a college campus

ID required to vote? Voter suppression!

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Postal voting has always been dodgy as fvck and you know it - those "minorities and disadvantaged communities" you're championing have been prone to have people "helping" them by posting the forms - all of which tend to favour Labour.

Where no passport, driving licence available then I personally think there should be some sort of "national identity card".

And yet studies show 3.5m Britons don't have any photo ID whatsoever (regardless of whether it would meet the standards required for any proposed legislation) and 11m don't have a passport and driving licence.

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:04 - Oct 14 by Uxbridge

And yet studies show 3.5m Britons don't have any photo ID whatsoever (regardless of whether it would meet the standards required for any proposed legislation) and 11m don't have a passport and driving licence.

Still, foreigners eh and their dodgy postal votes ....

Which is why I said a "national identity card" should be used for voting.

There were many students last GE bragging of voting both at Uni and home. Electoral fraud happens, convictions are rare.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 10:31 - Oct 14 by Uxbridge

One conviction in 2017. One. The problem doesn't exist beyond the occasional issue, and certainly not to the scale required to justify the blatant attempt to supress the elctoral rights of minorities and disadvantaged communities,or in other words the ones who don't have photo IDs such as passports because they can't afford to go abroad.

How is applying to the Council for a free ID going to "supress the elctoral rights of minorities and disadvantaged communities"?