posted at 5:21 pm on March 12, 2013 by Allahpundit

If it’s not instantly clear to you why they might want to do this, you weren’t following the news when they tried to pass comprehensive reform in 2006 and 2007. Mickey Kaus had a post on that very subject yesterday. The tangle of interest groups in immigration reform is such that the public is almost guaranteed to dislike a proposed bill the more time it spends looking at it. Possible solution, then: Don’t let them look at it. Pass the damned thing as quickly as you can, with as little debate as you can, and then let voters make peace with it in due time.

As Lindsey Graham recently said, “You don’t want to leave it hanging out for two weeks to get shot up.”

The Senate’s Democratic leaders may try to rush a nation-changing, economy-shaping immigration law though the Senate as soon as the Easter recess ends April 8, before the public can even read the bill, say GOP insiders.

The GOP’s concerns are fueled by the Senate judiciary committee’s failure to schedule any hearings so that senators, advocates and the public can analyze the draft bill, which is expected to be several hundred pages long…

“In rushing the health care bill to passage, Nancy Pelosi infamously said that ‘we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what’s in it,’” he said in a statement to The Daily Caller.

“Unfortunately, it appears these same tactics are being applied to the passage of a massive comprehensive immigration bill,” he said.

Per the DC, the Judiciary Committee’s set to hold two hearings related to immigration next week. Beyond that, they seem to be leaving things to the subcommittee on immigration, which is chaired by, er, Chuck Schumer.

Two questions. One: There are, I hope, enough amnesty opponents left in the Senate’s GOP caucus to slow this thing down by making a fuss about the process. Sessions obviously is on guard here; he, Tom Coburn, Jim Inhofe, and Ted Cruz are all safe bets too to place a hold on the bill if things move too fast. Failing that, given the success of Rand Paul’s filibuster, I wonder if you won’t see some similar (probably joint) effort on the Senate floor to slam on the brakes and try to talk the bill down. They’re bound to have Mitch McConnell’s support if they try, as there’s no way he’ll let Democrats steamroll the conservative base on this issue when he’s staring at reelection next year. In fact, if Schumer, McCain, Graham et al did try to ram something through, I wonder if they’d force Rubio into the opposition. His strategy on immigration, and it’s a shrewd one, is to engage directly with the base via talk radio and other media and try to persuade them on the merits of the Gang of Eight’s bill. Even if he fails, he gains some respect by seeking their approval instead of running away. (Remember how effusive Rush Limbaugh was in praising Rubio after he appeared on his show to talk about Gang of Eight plan.) That may be enough to protect him from a grassroots backlash in 2016 even if the bill ultimately passes. If, however, they end up sneaking it through the Senate with his support, without the bill being debated openly, that’s all up in smoke. The rap on him will be that he sandbagged opponents to help the Democrats shield it from democratic scrutiny. I don’t think he survives that in a Republican primary and he’s smart enough to know it. He’s much, much better off politically if the bill fails despite his support than if it succeeds through a scurrilous process. If Sessions’s worst fears are realized, Rubio has no choice but to try it slow down.

Two: Even if it gets through the Senate, how does it get through the House? If you think Boehner’s going to try to pass this the way he did the fiscal-cliff deal, with a giant group of Democrats and a few centrist Republicans to get to 218, you’re kidding yourself. House conservatives have already warned him about violating the “Hastert Rule.” If he did it again on an issue as radioactive as amnesty, I have to assume it would mean the end of his Speakership — especially if the base was already angry at being steamrolled in the Senate. So he’ll need a majority of Republicans to do this, and there’s no way he’s getting that majority if there’s an uproar among the base about McCain and Grahamnesty having short-circuited Senate debate to push through their immigration agenda before anyone notices. It would mean primary challenges galore in House races. So tell me, in light of all that, if Reid and the Gang of Eight are planning on ramming this through, how exactly do they do it? Sounds to me like Sessions and other amnesty opponents are leaking this scenario not because it’s likely or even possible but because it’s an early way to mobilize grassroots alarm about the bill, which will come in handy once it does hit the Senate floor eventually.

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So, we are giving citizenship to a bunch of people that will slowly be replaced by robotics over a 5 to 20 year period. After they lose their jobs they will forever be on the welfare system. Thank you GOP!

Geez.. There is little downside to getting this done for Rubio, Ryan, etc. and there is a huge downside if this fails. Rubio is protected by virtue of being Marco Rubio on this one. Plus all of Rubio’s potential rivals are for some sort of legalization and eventual citizenship… Who is going to become the anti-immigration champion on this one, Jeb Bush? In contrast, not passing it means that Rubio will go into the primaries without a significant accomplishment. He’ll also have not been mitigate the Cuban American heritage deal.

This frankly needs to happen or the Republicans can kiss ever winning a Presidential election again good-bye which is bad news for all of us. Hello Greek style austerity!!

This frankly needs to happen or the Republicans can kiss ever winning a Presidential election again good-bye which is bad news for all of us. Hello Greek style austerity!!

Illinidiva on March 12, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Kiss off. You just want low skilled Mexican laborers voting for big government candidates sooner rather than later. Amnesty will be the death knell for the Republican party and the last remnants of states rights in this country.

If we were talking about the millions of entrepreneurial members of the business class like the Cuban refugees, you’d be calling for an electrified fence.

Today we must all be aware that political protocol takes precedence over constitutional procedure. However you say – WHAT THE – what does this mean… in relation to the tabulation whereby we must once again realize that the great reconquesta story is now being rehearsed before our very eyes, in the rise of Marco Rubio… indicating that only a two-faced, I mean a bi-faced, I mean a bilingual hombre can receive…the award for reconquesta, unlike Kenyan Hussein Obama whose reconquesta plans don’t drink water.

Amigos – comrades – friends, we are gathered here not only to acknowledge one man without any borders – one who has found that the world in itself which seems to be a time of the toad. This in itself is an edifice of the great glory that has gone beyond, and the intuitive feeling of the American people, based on the assumption that the intelligence not only as Mencken once said, “He who underestimates the American voter will not go broke.” This is merely a small indication of this vast throng gathered here to once again behold and to perceive that which has gone way into the behind and to that which might go forward out of the future…we’ve got to hurl at those borders!.

This is the main deterrent upon which we have gathered our strength and all the others who say, “What the hell did that get?” – We don’t know. We’ve got to perforce support the bilingual nino… And as Miller once said in one of his great novels- what did he … that language is only necessary when bilingual communication is endangered. And you sit there bewildered, and Pinter who went further said “It is not the lack of communication but fear of communication.” That’s what the damn thing is that we fear – communication – especially Spanish communication that’s even on a box of Wheaties now. Damn it! But we have no paranoia,. and Senator McCain has attained, and has created for himself serenity, and it is only his insanity that has kept him alive in his senility.

Alright, moving right along here in my brief remarks. We speak of the organ…of the orgasm…Who the hell wrote this !!!??? And the bi-lingual, I mean the bi-partisan panel, has determined to give the prize to Marco Rubio for his EARNESTY’S RAINBOW. Now EARNESTY’S RAINBOW is a token of this man’s genius…he told me so himself and repeatedly …that he could…in other words, have been more specific, but rather than to allude to an articulation of the mundane, he has come to the conclusion that brevity is the importance of our nation’s shallow first world existence. God damn!

Ladies and Gentlemen. The time will come when a first world America will outlive its usefulness. Marx, either Groucho or Karl, I can’t remember which, maybe it was both or maybe it was Harpo, once said that America is the opiate of the people. I say that when America outlives its usefulness and becomes a majority Spanish speaking nation, then opium…will be the opiate…Ahh that’s not a bad idea… we are going to need that especially when the booze runs out …

All right…However, I want to thank Mr. PUNDIT, ALLAH PUNDIT of the HOTGAS Press, who has made it possible for you people to be here this afternoon to enjoy the Reconquesta Citation – Marco Rubio’s . EARNESTY’S RAINBOW – a small contribution to a certain degree, since there are over seven billion people in the world today. 450 of them … million live in the United States and Mexico which is a very, very small amount compared to those who will be miserable and dying elsewhere…Well, I say that you will be on the road to new horizons, for we who live in a society where citizenship is a commodity and a politician can become a TV personality, it’s not easy to conform if you have any morality…I, I, I said that myself many years ago…

But I do want to thank la Raza…I mean the DNC, the organization for the $1,000 in affirmative action scholarships they’ve given out…tonight they took in over $4,000,000, but they do have expenses you know, and I think that I have another appointment. I would like to stay here, but for the sake of brevity I, I must leave. I do want to thank you, I want to thank Mr. Allah Pundit. I want to thank Mr. Morrisey, who just ran through the auditorium and out a fire exit, and I want to thank Marco Rubio – acting el Presidenta of la Raza Mexiamerica and also Mr. Obama – acting Pharaoh and Drone Commander of the World – and also I want to thank Professor Irwin Corey and thank you.

This is butt-stupid on republicans part. The democrats want this done NOW because it will aid them in the mid-terms in regaining the House. I bet republicans think that amnesty will somehow help them in the midterms. Little do they know . . .

Further, if Rubio tries to pull one over on us by signing onto some skeevy deal, he can kiss his presidential aspirations good-bye.

The rap on him will be that he sandbagged opponents to help the Democrats shield it from democratic scrutiny. I don’t think he survives that in a Republican primary and he’s smart enough to know it. He’s much, much better off politically if the bill fails despite his support than if it succeeds through a scurrilous process.

In a sane world, that would be the final word. Except:

This frankly needs to happen or the Republicans can kiss ever winning a Presidential election again good-bye which is bad news for all of us. Hello Greek style austerity!!

Illinidiva on March 12, 2013 at 5:32 PM

The establishment thinking is perfectly encapsulated here. The GOP may well think they don’t NEED the base’s support since all those legalized people will stampede to the polls full tilt to vote for Republicans in 2016.

Further, if Rubio tries to pull one over on us by signing onto some skeevy deal, he can kiss his presidential aspirations good-bye.

KickandSwimMom on March 12, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Depends on whether they can keep the field clear for him like they did Romney. I recall back in 2009 most people laughed at the idea of Mitt becoming the candidate after all.

I think even if amnesty passes Rubio (or Jeb Bush) will win the nomination, but they’ll lose in an incredible blowout not seen since the 1800s as the base stays home and those thirty million, shiny new Democrat voters all vote Hillary or whoever runs in 2016.

Two: Even if it gets through the Senate, how does it get through the House? If you think Boehner’s going to try to pass this the way he did the fiscal-cliff deal, with a giant group of Democrats and a few centrist Republicans to get to 218, you’re kidding yourself

Boehner will pass his own more moderate version in the House with a slim majority of Republican support and no amendments from those conservative wacko birds. Then the most insidious aspects of the Senate bill will be included in conference.

We have to put all our energy into defeating this. Even though we don’t have the details people need to show up at town hall meetings and give ‘em hell. Making sure that less than 50% of Republicans in the House support this is the key to defeating it.

Nothing has changed since 1986:
– Democrats still lie
– Republicans still are squishes
– No additional border security will be implemented
– There will be no chahge regarding “anchor babies”
– Chain migration will be implemented
– This will NOT be the last amnesty
– New illegals will take the place of those who receiive amnesty

The only difference is than in 1986 there were 2.7 million (300k official estimate) illegals who receive amnesty in 1986. In 2013 the number will be 20+ million (11 million official estimate).

Plus all of Rubio’s potential rivals are for some sort of legalization and eventual citizenship…

Illinidiva on March 12, 2013 at 5:32 PM

That’s not true, but even if it were, Rubio’s plan is so far to the left- granting instant legalization to everyone before any new enforcement- that it’s easy for even supporters of a path to citizenship to get to the right of it. I can see Rand Paul voting “no” on Rubio’s plan. Ted Cruz certainly will.

Well, that, and diminishing the influence of western European judeo/christian culture, redistribution and exhaustion of personal wealth which some say was stolen from and derived from the working backs of the poor and abused of the world, and making the USA a microcosm of the whole world where no one culture, ethnicity nor race should have a majority, leaving the nation as a hodgepodge of perpetually splintered self-interest groups which may more easily be manipulated by our political elites.

His inaugural coming out speech on the floor turned me off of him. I do not know how a person who supports the constitution can say that he believes the path of socialism is a legitimate direction for the American voters to take.

I missed that doozy. I’ve disliked him since his Senate campaign. I was warned early by some Fla tea partiers and found him to be way less than desirable (though he’s managed to get far worse with time). The only good thing about him was that his opponent was that orange turd.

Not sure what you think you’re proud of. Romney was a turd but he could have been impeached and tossed out of office in a second (which would have been good for the country, to be honest). Instead, you helped the Ineligible Indonesian Dog-Eating Retard get back into office, which was THE FINAL NAIL in the coffin of America. You think that gives you some sort of credibility? Dude … You are in outer space.