So you're saying Luke's better than 20-25 other coaches in the league? That's patting him on the back for going 8-14. That's saying 8-14 is an accomplishment 20-25 of the coaches in the league can't achieve.

No it isn't. Those are literally two different things.

We've played more than 22 games this year. And the reason why we're less than 3 games out of the playoffs despite being the most devastated team in the league by injury is because we overachieved when we were healthy._________________Turn your losses into lessons. - Mike "The Situation"

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It doesn't have to be a simultaneous process where you need to have the replacement lined up before you can fire the current coach. You can do it in 2 steps. Fire the coach, get an interim coach, then search for the new coach in the offseason.

Who is the miracle coach? Give me a name please.

BTW. Most Nuggets fans would laugh you out of the room for bringing up Shaw._________________Turn your losses into lessons. - Mike "The Situation"

So you're saying Luke's better than 20-25 other coaches in the league? That's patting him on the back for going 8-14. That's saying 8-14 is an accomplishment 20-25 of the coaches in the league can't achieve.

No it isn't. Those are literally two different things.

We've played more than 22 games this year. And the reason why we're less than 3 games out of the playoffs despite being the most devastated team in the league by injury is because we overachieved when we were healthy.

yeah, not sure what you're saying then.

First you say ONLY 5-10 coaches can do better. That means 20-25 CAN NOT do better, correct?

That means Luke is better than 20-25 coaches in the league?

2nd, you blame it on injuries, specially LeBron. Well, I'm using the 22 games since LeBron got injured. Before LeBron got injured, we were 20-14. After he got injured, we went 8-14.

So, which one do you want to talk about?

That only 5-10 coaches can go 28-28? That only 5-10 coaches can go 20-14 while LeBron was healthy? Or, only 5-10 coaches can go 8-14 when LeBron went down?

It doesn't have to be a simultaneous process where you need to have the replacement lined up before you can fire the current coach. You can do it in 2 steps. Fire the coach, get an interim coach, then search for the new coach in the offseason.

Who is the miracle coach? Give me a name please.

BTW. Most Nuggets fans would laugh you out of the room for bringing up Shaw.

Why would I have to give you some name? If Luke quit tomorrow and decided to take a college coaching job, you feel we can't eventually find another coach?

Why would I have to give you a name as if I've interviewed every single coach out there or know who will be available?

When's the last time we fired a coach and had a replacement already lined up?

From 2011 to 2016 we had 5 coaches. Only 1 was interim. Bernie. Who was only there for 5 games.

Switching coaches without having an available, better coach in mind is idiotic.
And it's extra dumb to do when you have an all time great player like Lebron (who is picky) on a ticking clock.

Luke doesn't deserve a pat on the back, or an attaboy. But he is an average coach, with championship experience, which is important to Bron (see Blatt vs. Lue). He could be replaced with a worse alternative. Especially if we don't have a plan. Or at least a person in mind Lebron wants. Someone who will mesh well with our roster 2019 and beyond._________________Turn your losses into lessons. - Mike "The Situation"

When's the last time we fired a coach and had a replacement already lined up?

From 2011 to 2016 we had 5 coaches. Only 1 was interim. Bernie. Who was only there for 5 games.

Switching coaches without having an available, better coach in mind is idiotic.
And it's extra dumb to do when you have an all time great player like Lebron (who is picky) on a ticking clock.

Luke doesn't deserve a pat on the back, or an attaboy. But he is an average coach, with championship experience (which is important to Bron: see Blatt vs. Lue) that could be replaced with a worse alternative. Especially if we don't have a plan or a person in mind Lebron wants and will mesh well with our roster 2019 and beyond.

It's ironic that you used the examples of having 5 coaches in 5 years as an argument AGAINST having an interim coach.

Have no idea about this "replacement in mind" theory of yours. They fire a coach, they go out and look for a replacement. You categorize this as having a "replacement in mind"

Some are suggesting Luke be fired, then they can go out looking for a replacement - you demand replacement names...

What's the difference exactly?

And just because the fans don't know who they have in mind for a replacement doesn't mean Magic and Pelinka don't have a replacement already in mind?

I mean, if Luke quit tomorrow and took the job at Arizona, would you panic? I wouldn't.

I don't expect people on LG to be as good as NBA GMs at selecting coaches. But the fact that nobody comes to mind shows, there aren't many good options.

There are accomplished European coaches. And looking at Lebron's history, that might not work.
There are accomplished college coaches. But most college coaches don't transition well to the NBA. Brad Stevens is the exception, not the rule.
There are re-treads. Ex-NBA coaches with past success. But most of those coaches are out of work because their past successes were overshadowed by greater, more recent failures._________________Turn your losses into lessons. - Mike "The Situation"

I don't expect people on LG to be as good as NBA GMs at selecting coaches. But the fact that nobody comes to mind shows, there aren't many good options.

There are accomplished European coaches. And looking at Lebron's history, that might not work.
There are accomplished college coaches. But most college coaches don't transition well to the NBA. Brad Stevens is the exception, not the rule.
There are re-treads. Ex-NBA coaches with past success. But most of those coaches are out of work because their past successes were overshadowed by greater, more recent failures.

what about LeBron's ex-coaches? i would totally rock Ty Lue or Spolstra if he's out of contract.

I don't expect people on LG to be as good as NBA GMs at selecting coaches. But the fact that nobody comes to mind shows, there aren't many good options.

There are accomplished European coaches. And looking at Lebron's history, that might not work.
There are accomplished college coaches. But most college coaches don't transition well to the NBA. Brad Stevens is the exception, not the rule.
There are re-treads. Ex-NBA coaches with past success. But most of those coaches are out of work because their past successes were overshadowed by greater, more recent failures.

But answer this question though, if Luke were to quit tomorrow to go coach at Arizona, would you panic?

I don't expect people on LG to be as good as NBA GMs at selecting coaches. But the fact that nobody comes to mind shows, there aren't many good options.

There are accomplished European coaches. And looking at Lebron's history, that might not work.
There are accomplished college coaches. But most college coaches don't transition well to the NBA. Brad Stevens is the exception, not the rule.
There are re-treads. Ex-NBA coaches with past success. But most of those coaches are out of work because their past successes were overshadowed by greater, more recent failures.

But answer this question though, if Luke were to quit tomorrow to go coach at Arizona, would you panic?

Would Magic and Pelinka?

No way. Not with Brian Shaw here to save us!! _________________Turn your losses into lessons. - Mike "The Situation"

I don't expect people on LG to be as good as NBA GMs at selecting coaches. But the fact that nobody comes to mind shows, there aren't many good options.

There are accomplished European coaches. And looking at Lebron's history, that might not work.
There are accomplished college coaches. But most college coaches don't transition well to the NBA. Brad Stevens is the exception, not the rule.
There are re-treads. Ex-NBA coaches with past success. But most of those coaches are out of work because their past successes were overshadowed by greater, more recent failures.

But answer this question though, if Luke were to quit tomorrow to go coach at Arizona, would you panic?

Would Magic and Pelinka?

Same old LG - "OMG we suck" - fire the coach and get our next savior -- oh the new coach is not doing a good enough job (regardless of whatever circumstances) -- fire him and find our next savior -- rinse and repeat

I don't expect people on LG to be as good as NBA GMs at selecting coaches. But the fact that nobody comes to mind shows, there aren't many good options.

There are accomplished European coaches. And looking at Lebron's history, that might not work.
There are accomplished college coaches. But most college coaches don't transition well to the NBA. Brad Stevens is the exception, not the rule.
There are re-treads. Ex-NBA coaches with past success. But most of those coaches are out of work because their past successes were overshadowed by greater, more recent failures.

what about LeBron's ex-coaches? i would totally rock Ty Lue or Spolstra if he's out of contract.

I'm down to get Spo. I think that would be an upgrade. Just don't think Riley would let him go._________________Turn your losses into lessons. - Mike "The Situation"

I don't expect people on LG to be as good as NBA GMs at selecting coaches. But the fact that nobody comes to mind shows, there aren't many good options.

There are accomplished European coaches. And looking at Lebron's history, that might not work.
There are accomplished college coaches. But most college coaches don't transition well to the NBA. Brad Stevens is the exception, not the rule.
There are re-treads. Ex-NBA coaches with past success. But most of those coaches are out of work because their past successes were overshadowed by greater, more recent failures.

But answer this question though, if Luke were to quit tomorrow to go coach at Arizona, would you panic?

Would Magic and Pelinka?

Same old LG - "OMG we suck" - fire the coach and get our next savior -- oh the new coach is not doing a good enough job (regardless of whatever circumstances) -- fire him and find our next savior -- rinse and repeat

Last I remember, no one on LG's ever had a say in the matter. Every single coach fired/hired was done so without any input from LG.

I don't expect people on LG to be as good as NBA GMs at selecting coaches. But the fact that nobody comes to mind shows, there aren't many good options.

There are accomplished European coaches. And looking at Lebron's history, that might not work.
There are accomplished college coaches. But most college coaches don't transition well to the NBA. Brad Stevens is the exception, not the rule.
There are re-treads. Ex-NBA coaches with past success. But most of those coaches are out of work because their past successes were overshadowed by greater, more recent failures.

But answer this question though, if Luke were to quit tomorrow to go coach at Arizona, would you panic?

Would Magic and Pelinka?

Same old LG - "OMG we suck" - fire the coach and get our next savior -- oh the new coach is not doing a good enough job (regardless of whatever circumstances) -- fire him and find our next savior -- rinse and repeat

Last I remember, no one on LG's ever had a say in the matter. Every single coach fired/hired was done so without any input from LG.

Last I remember - the grass almost is never greener on the other side. I'd also add - I think Magic and Rob can see them pitch forks and flames you holding up down in the LBC ---

I don't expect people on LG to be as good as NBA GMs at selecting coaches. But the fact that nobody comes to mind shows, there aren't many good options.

There are accomplished European coaches. And looking at Lebron's history, that might not work.
There are accomplished college coaches. But most college coaches don't transition well to the NBA. Brad Stevens is the exception, not the rule.
There are re-treads. Ex-NBA coaches with past success. But most of those coaches are out of work because their past successes were overshadowed by greater, more recent failures.

But answer this question though, if Luke were to quit tomorrow to go coach at Arizona, would you panic?

Would Magic and Pelinka?

Same old LG - "OMG we suck" - fire the coach and get our next savior -- oh the new coach is not doing a good enough job (regardless of whatever circumstances) -- fire him and find our next savior -- rinse and repeat

Last I remember, no one on LG's ever had a say in the matter. Every single coach fired/hired was done so without any input from LG.

Last I remember - the grass almost is never greener on the other side. I'd also add - I think Magic and Rob can see them pitch forks and flames you holding up down in the LBC ---

ok.

But why are you mad at LG when no one at LG is making any decisions? Shouldn't you be directing your anger at the people that actually make the decisions?