Anyway, great game and loads of fun. Best one yet IMO. Lots of fun stuff to do in it, like mountain biking!

But once again we're going to see the endless discussion of violence and video games. Personally I'm kind of tired of it, and I'm also tired of seeing kids 15-16 and under being given a game like this by their parents. Rockstar has repeatedly said the GTA series is a game made by adults, for adults and even said buying this game for your kid makes you a lousy parent. I saw a youtube video of a boy who looks all of 8 being given the game by his mom and he gets all hysterical and cries.

What.. the.. f*ck.

5 minutes after installing it he'll be bombarded by 200 uses of "n*gger", 150 uses of "f*ck" and 75 uses of "sh*t" - and that's just the first 10 minutes of dialogue. Then his parents will be wondering why they walk in and see a full on nude stripper, or some guy nailing a girl in a side alley because they didn't bother to see the "NOT FOR UNDER 18" label.

My son is after me all the time, he's 14, to get this game. I absolutely forbid it. I have never played it myself, but have read stuff like what you wrote above - and I will go back to this post if I ever have any doubts.

"If it turns out that President Barack Obama can make a deal with the most intransigent, hard-line, unreasonable, totalitarian mullahs in the world but not with Republicans? Maybe he’s not the problem."

God Almighty. (after seeing your link Nuke). What happens to the day when they really perfect virtual reality experiences or at least make it cheaper - and you can do such things and really feel like you are doing it? Will we have finally gone too far?

"If it turns out that President Barack Obama can make a deal with the most intransigent, hard-line, unreasonable, totalitarian mullahs in the world but not with Republicans? Maybe he’s not the problem."

IF it were only available for adults.. I'd agree, but we all know there are loads of irresponsible, cowardly parents out there that will let their kids have it just to SHUT them up !

I've never played any of the GTA series, because I don't get the fun of stealing cars, shooting civilians & police, and running over everything in sight, much less the language. Road race- yeah fun, but it can be much more reality (like NASCAR) and less violent and - the foul language. That's just shock value to appeal to KIDS !

Violent games are like guns, some responsible people can handle them properly but there are 10,000s that can't and don't and we end up with Newtons, DC navy yard, Aurora, Columbine... etc. I have played a few violent games like Diablo years ago, but it was FANTASY,& fairy tales not real streets, and real people.

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