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Well here are some results for the Vargas Stage III upgrade that has caused the N54 forum section to basically be engaged in chaos for the past few months. From accusations of vaporware, to comparison to single turbo upgrades, to countless other arguments the day has come and the Stage III Vargas Turbo upgrade dyno'd on 91 octane with no meth 572 horsepower to the rear wheels. This is with a Cobb flash tuned by BimmerBoost vendor Pro-Tuning Freaks.

Impressive? Yep, sure is and this seems to also be a 91 octane pump gas only world record for the N54. Now keep in mind this is just the beginning. What will it do with meth? What will do on E85? What will it do with race gas and big boost? What about different turbos? Sky appears to be the limit but for now this kind of performance on pump gas sure is a big boost (hah, get it?) to the N54 scene.

Congratulations to all involved, Vargas Turbo Tech, Pro-Tuning Freaks, Cobb, and just the N54 community as well. The impossible just became possible. Pictures, video, and dynograph below.

I am going to post a whole thread tonight or tomorrow with pics and all that. But the stock charge pipe will fit, I might have to include a coupler or adapter to make it fit, but this is made to work with everything you already have...as long as you air filters are cone filters.

And I have logs that correct 3 degrees on cylinder 1 with the other 5 dead quiet as well, only when throttle angle is below 80-81 which was a quirk of race code (along with other issues). The flatline/major correction has absolutely nothing to do with manifold design and everything to do with perceived torque within the tcu. Please forward me these logs btw when you have a chance.

And again its not unique to my car and everything to do with the fact you aren't tuning with all available tables within the DME.

LOL Not sure which way to even begin to respond to this nonsense anymore haha You have the logs you're looking for from your own car. I don't see value in arguing the obvious so let's agree to disagree and move on?

Honestly this guy just likes to argue. It was pretty pretty pretty obvious he referred to meth as it is the only liquid fuel (atomized or not) that is actually traveling through the intake manifold at this point. But hey forget what he was saying just make a post disputing it anyways.

We are discussing an issue that your stage2/3 customers will inevitably run into on a 6AT. Considering you are tuning your stage 3 setup on a 6MT, you haven't seen the issues relating to it. I don't have an axe to grind with you, but perhaps you should take a step back and digest what is being stated instead of making personal attacks on someone discussing something you will run into.

LOL Not sure which way to even begin to respond to this nonsense anymore haha You have the logs you're looking for from your own car. I don't see value in arguing the obvious so let's agree to disagree and move on?

OK, so how about you tune all 6ATs on race code with throttle angle at 75-77 degrees (which you found by accident no less) instead of the normal 80-81 and call that your fix riding the load limit in the powerband? As you confirmed previously, these issues are not related to MY car specifically and you know this.

I don't think I was talking to or referring to your post in my reply that you quoted. I was just making a general statement when it comes to meth traveling down charge piping and through the runners.

Actually, we were discussing a major cylinder 1 correction on benzy89's log, and all of a sudden you're speaking of meth flow due to an intake mani design issue on cyl 1. So yeah, in context, it is all related.

Actually, we were discussing a major cylinder 1 correction on benzy89's log, and all of a sudden you're speaking of meth flow due to an intake mani design issue on cyl 1. So yeah, in context, it is all related.

Thinking it might be an injector related issue, which wouldn't be a surprise since I have the original 6 still in the car (June '08 production). I'm going to log it a couple more times & see if the issue remains (confirms the injector problem) or if it goes away (then an isolated Cylinder 1 problem).

Thinking it might be an injector related issue, which wouldn't be a surprise since I have the original 6 still in the car (June '08 production). I'm going to log it a couple more times & see if the issue remains (confirms the injector problem) or if it goes away (then an isolated Cylinder 1 problem).

I have hundreds of logs trying to diagnose this problem, trust me, it's not your injector. Still on my original set of 6 injectors too (01/09 prod).

This points the problem to "bad tuning", I think. If you have major timing corrections after shifting, you must make sure that the timing is right for that load (loads after 6MT shifting are quite low, like 80-90 when shifting close to redline) and also you must make sure that the boost spike after shift is as small as possible (I corrected this by altering the D-Factor Multiplier table in ATR - but only after the WGDC Base table is spot-on). Once I did this, I had no bog, no flatlines whatsoever.

Anyone remember when we made 572 and 537 on 91 only no meth first time on the dyno... Seriously getting excited for this kit to finally come to fruition and now it is so much more polished, been a long frustrating road! Seeing the light at the end of the tunnel!

Some users pointed out no one posts 91 only results. We pointed out he was incorrect, and posted this link. We were then accused of taking over someone else thread. So we removed those posts, and simply show our 91 results from 2 years ago. We will have more 91 results before the end of the month on stage 3, we can promise 600WHP+ on 91 only no meth. The unicorn will live and breathe very soon. Happy 2015 people!

Lets just hope that it doesnt take another two years from here to actually bring it out to market...also what is going on with your stg 2+ turbos? shouldnt there be a ton of threads saying they have installed and here are the results kind of threads?

I feel like ive been waiting too long for those lol. I am really interested in your stg 2+ and waiting on the results and some feedback as I am worried about all those leaks you had on the stg 2s.

I made a general statement about all kits in general, and mostly relating to the people who always ask for pump only figures not chiming in when they are share. That was the point of my post.

In that particular thread which was sharing pump gas dyno results.... There were more comments about how the numbers are somewhat low and price vs those numbers. There were no posts stating thanks for the pump gas numbers. If you do in any new product offering from any vendor within ten replies there will be a post stating "but what does it do on pump gas".

I still do not believe my statement was incorrect, as generally pump gas numbers on new tuners, new turbo kits, old turbo kits, etc usually get shown with meth and/or e85.

Did you post 91 oct results for stage 2 plus? I am sure people asked for it, this is what i am referring too things like that. I never said VTT did not share 91 octane results.

I didn't look at what i wrote but i do not think i wrote absolutely no manufacturer has ever shared pump gas dyno results on any kit, nor did i ever use VTT's name.

My statement stands, It is usual to see results of manufacturers turbo kits or tuners (Wedge etc) coming out to show their product/offerings . I do not think I am incorrect and it almost seems like you have a complex or something dude. I had no idea that even happen until i saw someone's quote from you.