They still fucking banging on about it!! Can't they accept they killed their own, they rob their own everyday ffs!! Juventus don't keep trying to get a free payout when it was obvious to everyone those scouse cunts caused the deaths!! Take a leaf out the Beatles song 'let it be'.

I'm not suggesting it wouldn't have happened to us or anything like that - from what I've heard on here it was an accident waiting to happen and it sounds like we came pretty close.

What I am saying is that I would like to think that we (and most other Clubs, come to that) would have the humility to accept that we played a part in the tragedy too. It's the idea that they had nothing to do with it that grates.

Someone pointed out at the start of this thread that, miraculously, this was the only match in the era where that stuff wasn't going on - apparently.

It IS healthy to remind people that a lot of the behaviour of ground authorities and police at that time was because fans (including us) often behaved like cunts.Not that anyone ever deserves to die at a football match but there is a lot of selective memory amongst the Scousers about what fans were like.As some have said on here they were proud of their reputation of being able to get in without paying and robbing everywhere they went.

Would we have admitted that the behaviour of some of our fans had contributed to what happened or would we have been applying for Sainthoods all round?Justice is very welcome especially in regard to the lying and criminality of the cover up and evidence tampering but a lot of what football fans had done unto them in the 80's was a reaction to their own behaviour.

Of course Liverpool fans were still rushing gates and stealing tickets out of the hands of their own fellow fans at the Champions League final in 2007

"..we would acted exactly the same as the scousers and that goes for every English Clubs support. "

Exactly right, sir. I've been in situations following West Ham in which things could easily have turned seriously pear-shaped. The whole football crowd behaviour/management issue in the 70s and 80s was an accident waiting to happen.