If Ka’Deem Carey ever becomes a productive NFL running back, he will be an outlier. This is something the Bears know and part of the reason why they are making him earn a job, despite being a high draft pick just a year ago.

NFL running backs usually have good size and speed, or at least one of the two. Carey has neither.

Carey had a hard time getting on the field last year, making the Bears evaluation of him difficult. He looked good in the team’s Week 4 game against the Packers, rushing for 72 yards on 14 carries, but that made up most of his production for the season. It’s easy to blame Marc Trestman for that, but it’s just as likely that Phil Emery drafted a dud. Their replacements need to figure out what he is, but the early indications are that they don’t like the player.

Ryan Pace and John Fox are familiar with players like Carey and it’s something they’ve avoided. In his time in Carolina and Denver, Fox’s teams only drafted two running backs who weighed under 210 pounds, both ran 40-yard dashes in under 4.55 seconds. (Carey weighs 207 and never ran better than 4.69.) The average weight of the running backs his teams drafted was 220 pounds with an average 40-yard dash time of 4.51 seconds. The running backs the Saints have drafted in recent years are a bit smaller, with an average weight of 208 pounds, but they had an average 40 time of 4.44 seconds.

Pace and Fox are responsible for adding three of the six running backs on the Bears roster. Only one — Daniel Thomas — failed to run a 40-yard dash time better than 4.55 seconds, but he’s 230 pounds. The average weight of the running backs on the roster outside of Carey is 211 pounds and the 40-yard dash time is 4.48 seconds.

There are a few slow times in the group. Montee Ball ran a 4.66 40 at the combine, but came back with a 4.51 at his pro day. Mark Ingram had a 4.66 at the combine, but followed it with a 4.53 and Jacquizz Rodgers had a 4.7 at the combine, but, like the others, significantly improved it with a 4.52 at his pro day. Carey didn’t just have a bad time, he ran a 4.69 at the combine and proved his slothness with a 4.72 at his pro day.

The Bears want good football players above all else, but size and speed are almost always important ingredients in making a good player.

Carey has a chance to make the team, but he’ll need to prove the Bears that the speed he plays at doesn’t match the speed he timed at. He has to not only play special teams, but become good at it. The Bears are probably going to keep four running backs, Forte and 2015 third-rounder Jeremy Langford are locks. Free agent signee Jacquizz Rodgers is a good bet, which leaves Carey battling with Thomas and Senorise Perry. Thomas has had marginal production in the league and Perry got a ton of experience on special teams last year.

If you think about the Green Bay game and forget about everything else, you have to think Carey’s chances are good. He looked quick and decisive. He ran low and with power. He looked like an NFL back. Maybe that was nothing. Maybe it was just one game against the worst run defense in the NFL. The Packers performance made up most of his production for the season. It’s easy to blame Marc Trestman for that, but it’s just as likely that Phil Emery drafted a dud. Maybe there was a good reason why he was behind Shaun Draughn for most of training camp last year.

The odds were stacked against Carey even before the guy who drafted him was fired. As of now, there’s no evidence that Carey isn’t just another in a long line of super-productive college running backs who couldn’t make it in the NFL. That certainly seems to be what the Bears believe. He has a chance to prove them wrong but having to do that makes Carey’s chances even slimmer than they already were.

I tend to blame Trestman. I broke out the numbers and Carey didn’t perform any worse on his limited touches than Forte did in his full season. And in the 1 game that he got enough touches to develop a rhythm he put up solid numbers.
Where I see him getting into trouble is that he might not fit the new offense, and he might not have the football IQ to adapt.

BearDown100393

Trestman was so bad, he can be blamed twice.

TheBigCheesy

I’m noticing a trend….

BearDown100393

So did the Hooded Fang.

BerwynBomber

Any YPC comparisons to Forte are misleading. A lot of Carey’s yardage came in garbage time when opposing teams were in prevent and/or only had six guys in the box. To insinuate he would be as productive as Forte over a whole year is absurd.

BearDown100393

A: It’s easy to blame Marc Trestman for that, but it’s just as likely that Phil Emery drafted a dud. (Paragraph 3)
B. It’s easy to blame Marc Trestman for that, but it’s just as likely that Phil Emery drafted a dud. (2nd last Paragraph)

Cut & paste in the same article is so sloth-like.

beninnorcal

It’s still the offseason and this is some new content to read here. I’ll take it.

http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

In his college tape, Carey has great vision and runs with much better power than you’d think for a player his size. He didn’t test well, but didn’t look slow, and was certainly productive as one of the only NFL-caliber players on his offense.
I think you’re right that he has to earn a roster spot, and IMO it comes down to him or Thomas. They’re the two “power backs” on the roster, the guys who you can pound for 1-2 yards on 3rd and short to get the 1st down. I like Carey’s odds over Thomas, but we’ll see.

The GP

He’s slow now.

BearDown100393

I’m gonna go get his release papers, get his release papers.

Frank Schoenburg

I’d rather pound Forte on 3rd & 1 or 2.

willbest

“pound” and Bears hasn’t belonged in the same sentence in a while. And Forte sucks between the tackles. There is a reason they threw it so much on 3&2. The o-line wasn’t getting any push, and Forte was getting hit in the back field over half the time.

Frank Schoenburg

Agreed, but between Carey, Thomas, or Forte, I’ll take Forte.

Irish Sweetness

I’m curious, why? Thomas gives you more momentum because he’s a stone heavier, and Forte gets stood up at 6’2. He’s not Jim Brown.

1. Matty.
2. Jasqueeze.
3. Langford.
4. Thomas.

G/L – 8-ball Williams following Tayo in at G, and Kyle at RT (or whichever way that goes).

Irish Sweetness

I’ve never seen him pound anybody. If Daniel Thomas is 230lbs, send him in.

Also, give Terry Williams a few reps at FB. He’s your 3rd and 1 man.

AlbertInTucson

He was sure fun to watch here at U of Az. tearing up the PAC 12. But then Michael Sam was SEC Defensive Player Of The Year, No?

That was then, this is now and the NFL is not the PAC-12 or the SEC, is it.

I’d hoped Carey could be a contributor.

Some guys’ skills translate, some don’t.

Sactowns#1

Forte and Rodgers will be the tandem with Carey riding the pine. I haven’t heard much rumbling about Langford so I imagine he’s a developmental project. Perry and Thomas are gone.

The GP

Jock Jizz is probably the 2nd back.

http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

Rodgers is not a RB. He’s a pass catcher. If he’s carrying the ball more than 2-3x a game, that’s a serious problem.

At least one of Carey or Langford will have to get the 10 or so carries a game that doesn’t go to Forte.

Harley Weewax

He’s one of the best 4th RBs in the league. He’s going to run all over UDFA defenders in the preseason.

BearDown100393

He also 3 years left on his contract.

The GP

Found some video footage from the NYSE today, helps explain what happened

This summarizes it some, though I’m not completely sure why they interviewed a Dr and not a JD for legal advice on HIPPA.

Maybe JPP gave permission too.

BearDown100393

Permission must be in written form

Scharfinator

And has he denied it?

Just because you haven’t seen his voluntary release doesn’t mean he didn’t sign one.

Either way, it is unlikely a news agency would catch anything for reporting on this. As much as the mothership sucks, they’re more on the right side of the law than not.

AlbertInTucson

Not to excuse JPPs abject stupidity in anyway but, I’d love to see ESPN get whacked for this somehow, unlikely as i know that is.

Scharfinator

What? You mean you don’t like the network with Stephen Smith and Colin Cowherd?! WHO DOESNT LOVE THOSE GUYS

AlbertInTucson

That would be Stephen “A” Smith. And we KNOW what the “A” stands for.

AlbertInTucson

Good old Colin. Who doesn’t think DeAndre Jordan owed Mark Cuban the common courtesy of a phone call to say he was backing out of an ageeement and going back to the Clippers.

BearDown100393

Oh I have no idea. Just simply stating that permission (to be binding and definitive proof) as to be signed. Nothing more to the comment.

BearDown100393

The hospital holds the most liability

Huge Bear’s Penis

sure. but who is to say that one of JPP’s friends or family did not say anything, or possibly a team mate.

SC Dave

What, precisely, damages accrued to jpp for the leak. Its hard to imagine the coaching staff not noticing a missing finger, let alone the contract dude watching him pick up the pen to sign a contract extension.

Of course, my theory goes in the dumpster if jpp writes left handed.

AlbertInTucson

Yep.

Nothing.

As long as it’s not YOUR right index finger.

Kind of like my definition of minor surgery which is any surgery I’M not having.

Sactowns#1

How the hell will the man pick his nose? His nasal cavity is gonna have to go up a whole finger size.

Irish Sweetness

Damn. A new piece on a nothing back washes away the Jimmy Mac revival like waves on a beach.
(sigh)

The GP

Sigh.

AlbertInTucson

“DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
Yahoo getting into daily fantasy is a big deal. But remember, kids. Fantasy is NOT gambling.”

Yes,

I’m still waiting for a viable explanation of the difference between sports betting and
DRAFT KINGS.com, etc.

Sactowns#1

FF lobbyists were able to successfully argue that FF has so many variable that players must use intelligence and skill to win. They argued sports betting is pure chance.

NewBearInTown

They need to change that law. I don’t mind if you make gambling legal and heavily regulate it (probably my preference). I don’t mind if you make it illegal. But I do mind when the state of the law is so intellectually dishonest.

BearDown100393

Should be illegal to profit from gambling if customers’ credit report not first checked. In short, no gambling for those in bankruptcy, foreclosure, credit card hell or on unemployment.

Sactowns#1

That would pretty much eliminate the lottery. They prey on the poor more than anyone else.

SC Dave

It amazes me how many people are willing to sacrifice privacy and liberty for an illusion of security.

BearDown100393

Degenerate gamblers are a drain on everyone.

Sactowns#1

Sports gambling should be legal in the US and it should be run by the state just like the lottery.

http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

seriously, a good part of our deficit would be gone if they would legalize and tax the hell out of gambling, prostitution, and marijuana.

By no means would it take care of all of it, but it would help.

SC Dave

Bad plan. The government would simply go further into debt, because they would increase spending based on projected revenue. And when that revenue came in under projections, its just more debt.

The story never changes.

Irish Sweetness

And spend the money on mental health. Stop problems in adulthood by educating children about their minds, and recognizing problems therein. Prevent society’s malaise, don’t attempt to put a band-aid on it.

BTW – for anyone interested in depression, or knows someone who would benefit, I found this gem with Ruby Wax being interviewed by quantum physicist(!) Jim Al Khalili about her depression, and subsequent journey of education into the subject. More interesting than it sounds.

That’s more true on a local level than a national one. I think Colorado did about $50M in marijuana taxes the first year. At the state level, that’s a nice windfall. At the federal level, not so much. One billion dollars a year is less than one percent of what we need to fix the social security deficit (I’ve heard $300 billion annually as the figure).

Repealing the Federal Reserve Act would be the best thing you could do for that, and it’s technically achievable if everybody wrote their representatives and demanded it. Legalizing prossies, drugs and gambling ha moral implications. Ending a hundred year old scam hat has defrauded and milked the wealth of a nation has none.

willbest

For something like the lottery it works because people are idiots. The “house” in this case government, takes 40 cents out of every dollar and distributes the other 60 cents as winnings (which it then taxes).
If they got involved in sports betting they would have to run honest lines or risk the black market anyway. Which means they are pulling the standard Vegas sub 10% margins basically covers their admin costs and a tiny profit.

Sactowns#1

Idk. Govt run sports gambling seems to be doing pretty well in Canada.

Irish Sweetness

If logic has anything to do with it, then the lottery is pure chance. I wouldn’t back a horse at 20 million to 1, or whatever. And the USA is supposed to be a “free country”? You’re not even free to spend your money how you will.

AlbertInTucson

Right.

Because it takes so much SKILL to draft Adrian Peterson with the first pick and then watch him sit for a year.

Irish Sweetness

And there aren’t many variables in horse racing? Absolute bollocks.

Irish Sweetness

Never heard of draft kings until yesterday’s UFC card. And what a card it was.

Indeed, we may still be able to offload the pair of them. Crazy, and doesn’t care.

(ducks)

SC Dave

Just don’t say to dump Forte.

BearDown100393

“Even though a lot of NFL quarterbacks hold private workouts with their
receivers, it’s important for Cutler to put in work with new members
such as Royal and White.”
It was also important to get a picture and news release for Cutler to make sure everyone knows he did something actually expected and rather normal.

SC Dave

The Snake slithers no more. Happy trails, Ken Stabler.

The GP

Stabler story: Walks into a bar in Oakland, yells “drinks are on me” – place goes nuts and the booze flows – then he slips out (snakes out) the back.

Irish Sweetness

R.I.P. Snake.

From Wiki:

“Stabler was known for studying his playbook by the light of a nightclub jukebox and for his affinity for female fans[citation needed]. As Hall of Fame guard Gene Upshaw said, “When we were behind in the fourth quarter, with our backs to our end zone, no matter how he had played up to that point, we could look in his eyes and you knew, you knew, he was going to win it for us. That was an amazing feeling.”

Stabler was the fastest to win 100 games as a starting quarterback, having done so in 150 games, which bettered Johnny Unitas’ previous mark of 153 games. Since then, only Terry Bradshaw in 147 games, Joe Montana in 139 games and Tom Brady in 131 games have reached 100 wins more quickly

Maybe it is just me, but that Carey file photo at the top is kind of creepy.

Irish Sweetness

This is great. Former Senator Mike Gravel talking about the illusion of voting Democrat or Republican, the idea that a democracy is when people have the power, not the government/representatives you gave it away to.

He only talks for ten minutes, the rest is 25 minutes of universal images and music (for some reason).

Bipartisan is no choice at all. It’s good to have someone from the institution saying it.

Waffle

hey boys, thought i’d jump on with 2 signs from football heaven that it’s season of destiny time and one simply movie worthy human interaction on the southside.

This morning I’m pouring myself an iced coffee and my wife is scouring Amazon.com for a replacement Chicago Bears Hot Wheels Convertible for my 4yr old son. She’s obviously typing in the wrong thing because she’s coming up with 1 car for 9.00 and all i hear is my son say, “that one mommy, that one”….

My wife is laughing but won’t tell me why. I come in a while later and look at the purchase history on her account and my son had chosen the Denver Broncos Jay Cutler edition GT diecast toycar with Jay Cutler rookie card……season of destiny.

Out shopping today i’m dragging two kids and a shit ton of groceries and the automatic door at the grocery store is broken. I’m trying to negotiate the whole thing and this super old black guy jumps in front of me with the grace of a ballerina cat and swings the door open, exclaims that i’m brave for dragging the kids around to the grocery store and proudly proclaims that he’s a grandfather to 24 grandchildren….I thank him and compliment him on his Bears jersey and that he must be a true fan…….Michael Fucking Haynes #97. All he says is, “you have beautiful kids…and leans over and whispers, “man, screw the packers”. Classic.

Final story for GP and Murph who may find this as ridiculously awesome as i did when i got to witness it firsthand last weekend.
I’m at my neighbors 1year old birthday party. He’s about 32 and Irish and married to this super hot Mexican girl who’s a badass cop. her whole family is straight out of a movie scene. Tons of jacked ex military latino brothers and uncles and all of their pregnant wives and girlfriends. Super tight family, up meanders the “brother in law”, looks like a total gangster, drunk to all hell and slurring his words but having the best time. He seriously looks like a fucking gangbanging sociopath. He’s fucking with this guy wearing a cubs hat saying, “cubs are fuckeeeng pussies maing” Straight up pussies maing.

He looks at me and says, “hey bro, you wanna throw bags with us?” I say sure and proceed to notice he has a fucking gigantic Whitesox neck tattoo that stretches from the back of his ear down to his collar bone. It’s pretty fucking epic so i tell him i love that he loves the Sox so much he got a tattoo to commemorate the 2005 world series…

He stops and with bloodshot eyes and a smile goes, “naw dawg, 98′ Sox maing, fucking 98. Ozzie Guillen, Blackjack McDowell, Big Hurt, Mags……
I am fucking dying laughing at this point. The 1998 80W-82L Chicago WhiteSox etched into this guys skin for eternity….
Turns out he’s not a gangster, works 90 hrs a week to ship his kids to some urban prep school where they get straight A’s and love math and science. He lives in Back of the Yards and tells me, “man motherfuck those gangbanging puerto ricans, my kids are gonna run this city some day…wearing suits and fucking powersuits….”
Epic 1yr old birthday party…..we drank until 3am.

Chicago Forever maings. Blackjack wasn’t even on the 98 Sox. Awesome.

Edit: i just realized that ozzie wasn’t on that team either. Haha, what the fuck was that guy talking about. He was combining like 3 different teams together i think. I think he mentioned Charlie Hough?

Wow. Somebody should attach a rope to a trailer hitch, noose the other end around Kromer’s balls, and pull them off with the truck.

What a fuck this asswipe is. Kill him.

Shady

Yeah, what a POS.

willbest

The threatening of the family if he tells the cops is incriminating. If Kromer had threatened the kid directly, I would be inclined to think he was dealing with a bunch of punks that probably needed to be put in their place.

Trac

More evidence of a caustic environment created by the Bears staff last year.

beninnorcal

Fuck that guy.

The GP

Can’t let Waffle hog all the stories.

Nephew, I may have mentioned, is on the force. On the streets. Ok, so in an arrest, perp struggles – big big boy – some restraint and cuffs needed. My nephew, he herniates his disc, sciatic nerve now pinched, pain that would make a 98lb. woman delivering a 9 pound kid say “no thanks” to.

Here’s the rub: gotta have 18m on the streets before you can get covered for surgery. So, he’s getting shots at Rush and mowing down the Advil, working it out there this summer to get his time in, so he can have it fixed. Just a taste there of what it takes to wear the blues. Did get some press, though:

Oh and Spike Lee can take his Chi-raq film and shove it up his Tyson loving ass. For a guy so proud of talking shit about where he’s from and how you gotta be where he’s from to understand where he’s from – he’s quick to pull the trigger on a film about someplace he’s not from simplifying issues to cause even more unrest. Some of us know where the Che Guevara is buried inside Mars Blackmon, Spike.

I’m pretty sure his surgery would be covered under workers comp if he chose to file it.

The GP

But then they let him go.

Trac

Ahhh….The ole catch 22.

Trac

By the way, did anyone else think a quick RB would have busted a long run on that video above? That hole was big enough to drive a mack truck through it.

Irish Sweetness

I have a new favorite tweet that I came across. John Podesta – Chief of Staff to President Bill Clinton, Counselor to President Barack Obama, and now head of Hilary’s campaign, listed his top regret of 2014 as …?

Doesn’t scale yet. In my lifetime we have gone from 20 Mb hard drives the size of a shoebox to a 10 TB hard drive about the size of a box of mac ‘n cheese. And there are all kinds of crazy ideas from Toshiba and other companies that are prototyping products that allow you to store 1 PB on something the size of an iPad mini or a kindle fire.

Pretty sure JD has that reversed. The D-line struggled because the coverage sucked. All a QB had to do against the bears was wait 1.8 seconds and then throw it 8-12 yards down the middle of the field. You aren’t going to get a lot of sacks if you can’t keep the ball in the QBs hand for at least 2.3 seconds. I lost track of the number of times Allen ran through the tackle, and couldn’t get home because the ball wasn’t there.

http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

in the first DET game, Allen would have had 4-5 sacks against the UDFA playing opposite him, except Stafford realized after about 15 minutes (and an Allen strip sack) that he could just throw to his first read and he would be wide open. Every time.

Scharfinator

Maybe not, since 2014 was so bad. But then again, he’s not young anymore and its still a transition defense, so sure, he could be worse.

Fuck.

Sactowns#1

It looked like he had been on the Lance Briggs diet last season. He was much thicker than he was in the past and thus not as quick. Lets hope he slims back down and speeds it up.