Golden Gun As I've explained in the past early NL is correct mathematically if all of these conditions apply: - there are an even number of players. Check. - we are guaranteed of 1 kill / night. Not check. While I really doubt we have SK, there could be Vig or other mechanic. - no weird indies s...

@bessie: honestly, I could believe that you were too distracted by the Sash wincon shenanigans to care about the self-hammer :P. I just did it in that game because literally everyone was pointing at me to be the next lynch, and we were just twiddling our thumbs for another day if I didn't, so I just...

Out of interest, how many town remaining would there have to be with 1 Mafia and 1 SK alive to get the Underdog to convert to town ? Or is it basically impossible for the underdog to not become scum due to the multi all nature? If Town had been eliminated first, then the Underdog would have become ...

Yay! Out of interest, how many town remaining would there have to be with 1 Mafia and 1 SK alive to get the Underdog to convert to town ? Or is it basically impossible for the underdog to not become scum due to the multi all nature? Although Moody's ability was ridiculously good, town needed to have...

Secret Santa: Methinks LaserGuy isn't trying his absolute hardest to come up with a theory, but who can blame him? :P I doubt anyone would buy a 7-2-1-1-1 setup, so that's not really on the table. I'd forgotten moody got his ability switched so there's no flip of the secret mechanics...

Secret Santa Yeah, moody's results being confirmed correct plus Mark's flip will explain all of the issues bessie was having (as it will show the swap targets part of mpolo's power) and will only make sense if MoA is town, so I think there's basically no way in hell LaserGuy ...

Secret Santa: bessie continuing to derail MoA's perfectly amazing plan :(. Actually, Mark and LaserGuy should both be almost completely sure that there's exactly 1 other scum, with it either being the other person, or a really outside chance of moody. This does make it rather likely that...

Secret Santa: Nooooooo bessie trust the cops! Trust your scummy feeling of Mark! Trust my evidence against LaserGuy! Trust in there being hidden mechanics messing up the results! Don't do this! I mean, town could still win by having Mark and LaserGuy shoot each other but I don't see that hap...

Secret Santa: Yeah, assuming that people aren't too worried about crazy redirects, Moody's results immediately collapse into Mark and LaserGuy as scum, unless people start worrying about a single godfather as scum remaining. Of course, better to play as if there's 2 remaining right now, ...

Secret Santa: Well, at least my crusade against LaserGuy was correct. What a weird role for Mark though. His behaviour was sufficiently weird that I was moving toward being ok with lynching him anyway, so I guess we still have a good shot. Just have to lynch correctly both nights, or hope that both ...

Secret Santa: Hmmm, that's consistent with mpolo's role so I guess he was just an Indie. Now I'm worried about why there was a double kill N2... If it turns out Sabrar was a cannoneer after randomly mentioning them that would be amazing. Probably just going to withold, does seem pretty r...

Welp, that's going to make this really interesting. Seeing as I have an incredibly good idea of what SuicideJunkie is (I'm almost certain he has mpolo's submitted role), this could make the game end almost immediately one way or the other...

Got a theory, but I need SJ to tell the truth about his targeting so far. If he doesn't, lynching him is probably our only choice. Worried about what happened N2 though to cause 2 kills... Unvote: LaserGuy Until we sort out exactly what's going on here. I doubt he's actually a Bomb, but I would appr...

Also, roles were randomly distributed as always, so you don't get something in particular for being a newbie. I got to be a naive cop in my first game here, and then got NKed N1 (though I had played other kinds of mafia on other sites, I hadn't mentioned it before the game started I believe).

Somewhat worrying: both NKs last night were reading SJ as newbie town before they died (though BoomFrog was reconsidering if he didn't put out any analysis soon). For what reason would SJ kill either of them if he's the remaining mafia member? Neither of their powers were particularly amazing (assum...

@Sabrar: Bah, muddled up the order of resolution for the NK and LaserGuy. That should work fine then. And although I think there's a pretty damn good chance he's scum, I was worried scum killing the lynchpin of our strategy if we're relying on it too hard. I'd already explained why I thought {wam, b...

For the first, yeah, that narrows it down to just SJ mafia and Sabrar GF SK if you're town. Could you explain this in more detail? Are you saying that if LaserGuy is town then I must be GF!SK? If me, moody, Mark are all town, and none of the results have been redirected or anything (which is the fi...

GF!Sabrar would be compatible in scenarios with one mafia of {SJ, Vic} only. SK!Mark is compatible with two mafia if he is not GF and one if he is GF. In the latter case, I could certainly imagine an SK lying about their result since lynching mafia at 5-1-1 is bad for the SK, whereas lynching Town ...

@LaserGuy: Given how my ability is worded, I think if one of the targets was commuting that I wouldn't get a result at all, so I'm pretty sure Sabrar doesn't have an ability like that. Your GF SK theory for Sabrar would also make Moody's result not make any sense (assuming you think both bessie and ...

Would still like firm theories about what happened N1 and how to explain all of the cop results from people who haven't already given them. Especially from LaserGuy, who seems to be putting up a very weak defense of himself right now. Really need them from SuicideJunkie and Mark (who seems to be AWO...

Almost 1/3rd of the way into D3, and we've got 2 or 3 posts from most people today? What on earth? Everyone, put out some more content, especially reads! Last year had almost twice the content with about half the players on their D3 LYLO after 2 days. If scum wins this just because everyone's hard l...

@MoA: Make sure to fold my and Mark's results in too, don't just focus on Moody's result because it's the biggest. And a secret Miller may be possible, but is probably less likely than a Godfather. You're correct that at least your messages have ruled out something like the schedule switcher of last...

@bessie: Not ruling it out entirely, but assuming that it is a restriction related to having to post less than everyone else, it means that: 1) Someone submitted a lurking role that is at least somewhat playable as town and scum. As you've said, I'd hope no-one would actually do this in the first pl...

@LaserGuy: Yeah, that makes sense. @bessie: If you think that Sabrar has some kind of posting restriction, then it's a type of restriction not shared by most people, despite it being in the sample role in the OP. You think he was just really unlucky and the restriction was given to one of the people...

Ah, his last post of the day, a bit before the lynch. Ok. Well, seeing as I'd have gone for Mark 2nd I guess that's not too much of a loss, but now I'm regretting not protecting plytho even more. Actually, now that I think of it... @LaserGuy: does your power give any indication of what happens if a ...

Hello all, been itching to get into this game after seeing such an interesting first 2 days. And now we've had a double kill. Oh boy. Setup Spec: I think 8-3-1 or 9-2-1 is most likely for the initial setup, depending on what powers were floating around in general. Daychat is confirmed with wam's fli...

Secret Santa Oh boy oh boy oh boy a chance to replace... I'd better reread the thread a time or two, I haven't been been keeping track of all these crazy claims as much as I should have. Though SuperJedi is in the queue before me, but no idea if he'll reply to be a replacement in a reaso...