I don't think anyone familiar with the story will forget that kid's face or the horror those parents must have experienced.

+1....

Or, Lisa Steinberg...that poor little girls face still haunts me.

If anyone remembers Andre Rand, the SI "Cropsey"... years after his last victim disappeared we had to do a similar excavation on SI in the yard of a rooming house Rand once stayed at, complete with a backhoe, Forensic anthropologist etc. We found alot of animal bones but no human remains.

This guy was caught with kids numerous times before he finally killed.... and really should have never seen the light of day after his first arrest.

If anyone remembers Andre Rand, the SI "Cropsey"... years after his last victim disappeared we had to do a similar excavation on SI in the yard of a rooming house Rand once stayed at, complete with a backhoe, Forensic anthropologist etc. We found alot of animal bones but no human remains.

This guy was caught with kids numerous times before he finally killed.... and really should have never seen the light of day after his first arrest.

A true, legit, monster.

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Yeah I remember watching that special a year or so ago. Really freaky stuff, I think there was a thread on it back then.

Joel Steinback used to bank at Chemical Bank (back in the Manni/Hanny/Chemical bank days) long before Chase. My wife opened and account for him once, he was filthy dirty and pretty scarry looking and he had his wife with him who he used as a punching bank. He creeped out and scared whole bank. This was well before he became famous for being a scumbag. On a related note I once met Joey Buttafucco at a house party once before he became famous, snake skin boots and all and the most famous person I ever met before he was famous was when I was 19 Bruce Willis served me a few beers when he bartended at China Club right before he landed moonlighing.

On a side not Son of Sam and Joel Steinback once got into a fist fight over who was the biggest infamous killer while in jail. I would have paid to see that.

Originally Posted by 32green

+1....

Or, Lisa Steinberg...that poor little girls face still haunts me.

If anyone remembers Andre Rand, the SI "Cropsey"... years after his last victim disappeared we had to do a similar excavation on SI in the yard of a rooming house Rand once stayed at, complete with a backhoe, Forensic anthropologist etc. We found alot of animal bones but no human remains.

This guy was caught with kids numerous times before he finally killed.... and really should have never seen the light of day after his first arrest.

..it was different back then...i walked to school by myself in first grade...

It was different because we as a society had not come to grips with the fact that the world is crawling with monsters yet;

There are so many unsolved cases of missing kids pre-dating the "helicoptor parents" era it boggles the mind.

There are very few pure stranger abductions now because parents are more aware; These predators are essentially cowards who would wait patiently for years until they had an opportunity at a completely vulnerable kid...

It was different because we as a society had not come to grips with the fact that the world is crawling with monsters yet;

There are so many unsolved cases of missing kids pre-dating the "helicoptor parents" era is boggles the mind.

There are very few pure stranger abductions now because parents are more aware; These predators are essentially cowards who would wait patiently for years until they had an opportunity at a completely vulnerable kid...

The parents were not worse then, the awareness was lacking.

Much like car seats, seatbelts etc.

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+1

Also, the internet and the ability to instantly known about news anywhere definitely makes the world seem like a sicker place, when in reality it is probably the exactly same as when you old turds were my age.

If anyone remembers Andre Rand, the SI "Cropsey"... years after his last victim disappeared we had to do a similar excavation on SI in the yard of a rooming house Rand once stayed at, complete with a backhoe, Forensic anthropologist etc. We found alot of animal bones but no human remains.

This guy was caught with kids numerous times before he finally killed.... and really should have never seen the light of day after his first arrest.

A true, legit, monster.

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This and the Patz case had us terrified as kids.

True monsters, the lot of these guys. No amount of incarceration or rehabilitation can ever stop them from their predilection for preying on children. Shoot them all in the head and be done with it already.

i was flounder fishing with my buddies on the south sure. hell yeah we were drunk. my buddy hooked something heavy but it didnt fight. as he was pulling this up he kept saying " what the f is this.....what the f is this ?" and then when it was a trailer tire he said "i though it was eton pace for a minute...."