Starting June 30, ground controllers will have to issue manditory hold short or crossing to all runways when taxiing to and from the runway. At one point on our field one inactive rwy has to be crossed 3 times. Cannot give crossing of two rwys at one time either. We've been practing this new procedure and its sucks, especially when you have a problem child on the field. The OE/OD's (operational error/operational deviation) are going to be plentiful on bothe ends.

According to 7110.528, a runway crossing clearance will be required to cross each active, inactive, and/or closed runways and each clearance may only be issued after the aircraft crosses the previous runway intersection if the taxi route crosses multiple runways. Talk about an unnecessary increase in frequency congestion, runway incursions, and OEs/ODs.

The more crucial issue is the lack of understanding among pilots for no fault of their own, simply because they have not heard a thing about the upcoming change before, on, or after June 30th. There certainly has not been much in the way of pilot notification at the present time at least from my perspective (nothing from FAASafety.gov, AOPA, EAA, etc.)

According to 7110.528, a runway crossing clearance will be required to cross each active, inactive, and/or closed runways and each clearance may only be issued after the aircraft crosses the previous runway intersection if the taxi route crosses multiple runways. Talk about an unnecessary increase in frequency congestion, runway incursions, and OEs/ODs.

The more crucial issue is the lack of understanding among pilots for no fault of their own, simply because they have not heard a thing about the upcoming change before, on, or after June 30th. There certainly has not been much in the way of pilot notification at the present time at least from my perspective (nothing from FAASafety.gov, AOPA, EAA, etc.)

Even more so, this kinda makes FAR 91.129(i) rather obsolete:

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A clearance to “taxi to” the takeoff runway assigned to the aircraft is not a clearance to cross that assigned takeoff runway, or to taxi on that runway at any point, but is a clearance to cross other runways that intersect the taxi route to that assigned takeoff runway. A clearance to “taxi to” any point other than an assigned takeoff runway is clearance to cross all runways that intersect the taxi route to that point.

This has been discussed quite a bit around the VATSIM forums, but I'd love to get some input/opinions from Tower/Local controllers here. Do you think it will add to the number of incursions and congestion on frequency? Also, anything from NATCA on it?

I don't know all of it, but I think wat was new once is now new again....

I remember this flightsim program, Flight Unlimited, where this phraseology is very common at SFO and SEA when you want to cross an active. so wonder where FAA got this from

This is different. It is unlikely that the FAA got this idea from your game.

The video game dialogue notwithstanding, it would have not been completely uncommon to give specific clearance to cross actives that were not the assigned takeoff runway, if for no other reason than to reduce confusion (since a taxiing pilot might see it is in use and stop to ask) and keep things moving.

The thing that is big here is that now you will need clearance to cross inactive and closed runways. That is huge. I can see controllers hating this. Especially if they can only give one clearance at a time. Just a few guys practicing touch and goes at some small airport that has the right arrangement will drive the poor ground guy NUTS!

I can tell you that controllers already hate this. I got briefed on this today and it will now turn one transmission into several for many people. Not so much of a problem where I'm at, but now you can only give one crossing clearance at a time. It's overkill and it's the FAA trying to get behind the controls.

I can tell you that controllers already hate this. I got briefed on this today and it will now turn one transmission into several for many people. Not so much of a problem where I'm at, but now you can only give one crossing clearance at a time. It's overkill and it's the FAA trying to get behind the controls.

I can totally see and understand why ATC hates it. Thanks for the clarification on that.

I just sum it up as how many instructions need to be given to get from the east side of 31R to the west side of 31L at KDFW, with the assumption that all of the 17s/35s and 18s/36s are closed/inactive.