I haven’t studied the Dorner case in detail, and haven’t read his manifesto, and all my information is second-hand. I can hardly offer an authoritative analysis yet it brings up some interesting things.

Strange? An ex-cop going on a homicidal rampage is certainly not something that happens every day. Conventional? What could be conventional about it? And yet the conventional aspects of it point up the strange ones.

Dorner is what I would call a “patriotic liberal”. We think of liberals as being against the police and military, of the police and military as conservative, traditional institutions, but that hasn’t been the case for at least 20 years. I was in New Jersey, across from Manhattan awhile ago, and American flags were all over the place. And yet I’m sure all these people are Obama voters. The patriotic liberal, a person who supports the police and military while being a social and economic liberal in other ways, is probably common in the NYC suburbs, but less so in California. Dorner is clearly a liberal from what he wrote, and yet was a police officer and military member.

Conservatives tend to see the police and military as traditionalist, conservative institutions but they are tightly controlled by the system and serve its purposes. Do not trust or cooperate with these organizations; if a crackdown comes they will enthusiastically support it all the way.

Are Dorner’s allegations true? What happened with the training officer and the homeless person? I have read there is corroborating evidence, and that there isn’t. I suspect there is some truth in it. That he filed that complaint the day after getting a bad evaluation doesn’t make it false.

Here is where the truth of oppressive, bureaucratic organizations comes in. Dorner sees an excessive use of force by Teresa Evans, his training officer. He is obligated to report it immediately, but doesn’t. You don’t rat on your boss, that’s a pretty basic rule. And yet because he doesn’t, he himself is implicated. He is damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t. Putting people in binds like this is how all such places control people. You have to be corrupt to participate, to have a job.

Some rank speculation- Evans was testing Dorner, at least partially, with the UOF. Dorner had to show with his response he was a team player. Say nothing? He’s OK with police abuse. Report it? He’s a rat. I think the correct response was for Dorner to make some comment mildly objecting to the incident to her, but to say nothing to anyone else. I think Dorner said nothing, or possibly objected too strongly without making a formal complaint at the time. The negative evaluation came from this and probably other things- Dorner doesn’t seem to have been a good social or intellectual fit for the LAPD.

Dorner seems to have overestimated the ability of the grievance process to get him what he wanted. I think this is common among blacks, who hear a lot about successful lawsuits while not hearing about the vast majority that go nowhere. I’m not surprised that his own lawyer was in on it- they always are, they get paid either way.

Frankly, I think a lot of what he said is likely true. Political correctness and affirmative action don’t make people less hostile toward other races, it makes them more. I think the police HR screening process is now very intense and screens out normal people and lets through sociopaths who know how to manipulate the system.

What it doesn’t get is brave, principled people willing to take personal risks to protect the innocent. The shoot ’em ups of two only somewhat similar trucks, driven by two Hispanic women delivering papers and a short, skinny white guy going surfing are well-noted. These are gross violations of police procedure for using deadly force but dismissals, the dead minimum appropriate response, are unlikely.

Dorner’s burning truck was found in the mountains near a ski resort, with footprints in the snow leading away. It seems probable to me Dorner gave up on his rampage and committed suicide in the woods. He hasn’t been heard from in days. If so his body should be easy to find. If not his path through the snow should be easy to track to a cabin where he may be holed up or road or parking lot where he may have stolen a car. No car has been stolen- that certainly would have been reported- so that he is dead in the woods seems most likely.

I think though that the police officers of Southern California are not eager to find Dorner, because while he is probably dead he may be alive and the first officer to encounter him is going to get filled with lead. I think they are hoping he will get cold feet and get out of town and become somebody else’s problem. The hysterical overreaction to the two pickups shows they are very, very afraid of Dorner. He’s heavily armed and a good shot, but aren’t police officers supposed to be trained and capable of dealing with such a threat? They are supposed to be, they are indeed sworn to be, but I think they like those nice fat paychecks and the toys Dorner says they buy with the overtime they get working homicides, and they would prefer to enjoy the sweet life of a California public employee.

The system, in particular the people they employ to use force to maintain their control, is not looking good in this incident. We know the police can’t deal with rioting- in all Western countries they step back and let it burn out. What we now see flummoxes them is any serious, direct attack against them. Suspect whites who attack the system as criminals burn to death in their houses or die in a hail of bullets. Dorner has crossed what ought to be a red line. He should have been quickly killed in a hail of bullets in a burning building, on live TV, to make the point you don’t screw with the police. That this didn’t happen is a clear sign of weakness.

Any serious disorder that includes targeting police officers- at least if it doesn’t involve whites- could push the law enforcement system to total collapse.

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About thrasymachus33308

I like fast cars, fast women and southern-fried rock. I have an ongoing beef with George Orwell. I take my name from a character in Plato's "Republic" who was exasperated with the kind of turgid BS that passed for deep thought and political discourse in that time and place, just as I am today. The character, whose name means "fierce fighter" was based on a real person but nobody knows for sure what his actual political beliefs were. I take my pseudonym from a character in an Adam Sandler song who was a obnoxious jerk who pissed off everybody.

Sherlock Holmes said when you have eliminated the impossible, what remains, however improbable, must be the truth. If he was dead in the woods, it’s impossible they haven’t found a body. If they were actively looking for him, it’s impossible they wouldn’t have found him or have active leads. The only conclusion is that they are so focused on guarding potential targets that they aren’t looking for him.

Do you think given the opportunity to move freely, which he seems to have, he will go after more targets or leave the area?

This dude has had 5 years to stew and scheme. I see the LAPD starting to use their jedi mind tricks: “Yes, of course, you’re innocent! We’ll reopen your investigation right away!” In his manifesto, he says that all he wants is to clear is name. They’ll give him hope, throw him a worm and see if he bites.

Supposedly their 1 million dollar bounty has generated over 700 tips. Should be fun chasing all those down.

I think he’ll keep his head down for awhile now. Let the heat die off. USG can’t afford protracted manhunts. Then he’ll re-emerge after a spell. However, if he is stupid, he’ll start talking to the LAPD and then they’ll get him easily.

It’d be a huge mistake to go after more targets now, Give it a week and things will almost be back to normal, Murka will forget. He could do a one day spree after that, set things off and things would really get hot. That’s when he disappears into the shadows for good.

You need to remember he’s a negro so to assume he will do anything rational only shows you are projecting.
Assuming you who are speculating are yourself human, of course.
Hey, maybe he put on a blond wig and a dress and is trying to hitch hike down to Mexico!!
Or maybe he boxed himself up and mailed himself to Zimbabwe!!

The Idaho state legislature should have made “Remember Ruby Ridge” the state motto and put it on all the license plates. But that’s not the kind of people who get elected to office in postmodern America.