oceanmotion wrote:
Pointing out he fixed the autopilot makes it clear enough.

Yeah, except they showed him sitting in the autopilot looking glum and then two seconds later...

They show him sitting in the Bat, looking glum (probably can be excused as he is carrying a nuclear bomb over the city he is trying to protect), then over a massive sea and then they explain the autopilot has been fixed. I don't have the benefit of a film school education - ahem - but I'm pretty sure most films aren't played out in real time. Those two seconds later might just be for effect. I don't know though, I'm no Tonka.

I struggle with Rises, I really do. Watching it with my bro who doesn't really know much about Batman really brought home the flaws. He enjoyed the other two a lot, but just found Rises incomprehensible. Ridiculous baddie, strange meandering plot with a nonsensical prison put thing, and generally a long and slightly boring film. He was massively disappointed and while I tried to justify all the things he didn't like, after a while I realised I was just making excuses for it.

I think there's lots of good in there, but objectively speaking it's flawed at best.

Saw it twice, was better the second time. Bane was fantastic, the plot was fine. The 'holes' I simply didn't care about/didn't spoil the film for me. When I watched, they didn't pull me out of the atmosphere. Still, haven't seen it since it was released and maybe the small screen will make them all the more apparent.

I think if you compare Bane to the other villains from BB and TDK, he's not quite from the same set. If you know him from the comics he makes sense, but if you have no context then he's inexplicable. You just don't know what he's supposed to be, or why, and you can barely understand him. I don't think he works at all really.