NOTE: looks like you are on track.. it will look better and better the more you write it, flow evolves.. For improvement I would lose the underlines altogether. Separate the O from the N a bit more. Your S is probably the best letter on that page.

that sorta looks like this *****h on scooby-doo back when I was a kid ( more of one anyways) guy was trying to scare away realistaters from buying out his business since it was about to go under or some shit.

You should try going simpler in that handstyle right now.. Even the simple on on the stop sign gets all crazy at the U.

LeaksOne

08-18-2010, 04:28 PM

gum i like that. maybe space out the air a bit. the I is really hidden.

and fuckthefame listen to phil.

http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w335/jokster004/STP60273.jpg

btw this is not a real effort nor what i write. it was the best looking out of the scribbles i put down

FuckTheFame

08-18-2010, 06:03 PM

word. thanks for the crits phil
those handies are a little old but i still rock the same style
i'll try to tweak em a bit

IbuprofenTablets

08-18-2010, 06:06 PM

@Leaks

The W is too separated from the A.
If you're trying to do a WA one line combo, make the part of the A that curves touch the W, to help it flow.

FuckTheFame

08-18-2010, 06:07 PM

here are some more randoms
if you guys have any crits ill take em

edit: peep the orphan tag on the first one. some of you guys here SHOULD know about that dude
http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/fuckthefame/PHTO0825.jpg
http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/fuckthefame/PHTO0788.jpg
http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/fuckthefame/PHTO0784.jpg
http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/fuckthefame/PHTO0785.jpg

IbuprofenTablets

08-18-2010, 06:10 PM

@ the 2nd/3rd picture.
DAAAAAMN, *****.
What did you do to the Y?
Shit looks like weird horizontal R.

Stick with that simple Y you have there.

LeaksOne

08-18-2010, 06:13 PM

@Leaks

The W is too separated from the A.
If you're trying to do a WA one line combo, make the part of the A that curves touch the W, to help it flow.

i agree. i probably wont write this again though. just a spur of the moment word.

FuckTheFame

08-18-2010, 06:16 PM

haha that is an acid y my friend
that changes for noone
not to be a dick its just my own thing
yer not the first to say i should change it but that one is for me haha
lately i been hitting up the legible hands like that last one tho

FuckTheFame

08-18-2010, 06:21 PM

sorry to clog the page
this'll prob be the last cluster till im out getting more fliks
http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/fuckthefame/PHTO0827.jpg
http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/fuckthefame/PHTO0833-1.jpg
http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/fuckthefame/PHTO0791.jpg
http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/fuckthefame/Picture331.jpg
http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/fuckthefame/Picture335.jpg
http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/fuckthefame/Picture281.jpg
lol this is an oldy
http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/fuckthefame/Picture377.jpg

IbuprofenTablets

08-18-2010, 06:22 PM

It's all good, dude.
You can do whatever you want, all I'm saying is that it's hard to read(I actually skipped reading the word at first, because that Y completely threw me off).

FuckTheFame

08-18-2010, 07:24 PM

hahaha im not surprised
i try to keep more of an original style
most people tell me to go more generic which i can see as a positive
im still trying to learn how to mesh it all together

nice and simple for now, the way it should be. until you can add style to every letter

FuckTheFame

08-18-2010, 11:45 PM

nice and simple is cool if your worryed about other peoples opinions
but when your doing it for fun its really just more about doing it in general
id rather find my way doing tags in the streets
but i accept your criticism

PermanentMarkers

08-19-2010, 12:22 AM

nice and simple is cool if your worryed about other peoples opinions
but when your doing it for fun its really just more about doing it in general
id rather find my way doing tags in the streets
but i accept your criticism

I totally agree with bombing the shit out whatever you want... but make it legible.

I couldnt even tell that said youth until i read the very last one.

I didnt know it was a y until someone critted your y.

As for specific crits

Dont make your U look the a 4. this happens when your left bar bends and touches the right one

Dont cross your T over to your funky U, that was making me think that you wrote YoztH or something crazy like that

I'm not feeling the drippiness on any of them, or the silly squiggles that trail all the way down whatever you wrote on. Tag your name and then peace, dont make other people write over some squiggle or drip that goes down a million miles. Not everyone brings a bunch of different color markers.

nice and simple for now, the way it should be. until you can add style to every letter

Not a whole lot to crit here, nice and simple like you said. I'll tell you what I like

That little curve in the top of the right bar on your U looks cool

I especially like your K, it fits well with the rest of the letters, since they are all curvy. The D and S are really plain, but those will get better for sure once you write it a bajillion times. Maybe make the D a little smaller, as it is bigger than all your other letters (If not smaller move the straight bar to the right a bit)

Lose the junk around your tag like the halo and commas and squiggle until it gets some style.

paniik

08-19-2010, 12:02 PM

Lose the junk around your tag like the halo and commas and squiggle until it gets some style.

Thanks, But how can I make it look less boring without any commas or anything?

MakeItTakeIt

08-19-2010, 01:27 PM

http://i33.tinypic.com/2076r2g.jpg

One liner from last night, I just kind of ended up doing it without really thinking. It says note.

FuckTheFame

08-19-2010, 07:01 PM

thats dope
i like the quotations in the o
the t and e have a lot going on
you should try to make your n match the rest by giving it a little more style

PermanentMarkers

08-19-2010, 07:09 PM

Thanks, But how can I make it look less boring without any commas or anything?

Its hard to suggest how to make something look good, its easier to say why something looks bad. (I'm still a toy so maybe established writers have a different opinion)

Just write your name a ton on paper, add little bends to the ends of letters.

Write it really fast a whole bunch, you will sometimes make mistakes that actually look good. After you have filled like 10 (or 100) sheets of paper with your tag, pick the coolest looking letters and write all of them together, then post those tags up here and see what people think.

Alot of people say dont write on walls until you are good, I think this is silly, as not everything transfers from paper onto a wall. Get up, who cares if someone doesnt like what you did, you will learn from your mistakes and there is no better way to get good at something than actually doing it (although you should diddle around on paper for at LEAST 10-15 minutes every day)

That Note 1 liner is sweet, probably gonna be hard to add some style to that N and keep it a one liner, maybe try making it curved a bit?

NosE2

08-19-2010, 07:16 PM

dude that note is weak, no offense, maybe try a capital T or something because it looks like a e on xanax, or maybe a attempt at a P.

PermanentMarkers

08-19-2010, 08:12 PM

A capital T would make the e look more like a P i think. Right now hes writing it like Note, if he switched it to NoTe people might think NOTP. (Unless it was changed to a capital E) If you made the t with the curved bottom and joined that lower down on the e it would be clearer

just my opinion though. The rest of the internet doesnt usually agree

tyler11b

08-19-2010, 08:22 PM

between a few names right now heres one of them>> word.

MakeItTakeIt

08-19-2010, 11:06 PM

Yeah, the n is a little plain compared to the other letters, but like I said, I kinda just started doing it halfway through the night. I know it definitely needs work.

I've tried pretty much all combos of upper and lowercase letters. Capital e looks mad awkward, capital t looks just as awkward without a capital e. I'm better off just keeping it at Note. I'll fuck around with it some more and post in a few days. Thanks for the crits guys.

Tyler, you're in the wrong thread kid. But anyways, the W looks like a v that's tryin to be a d and the real d could pass for an n. Try thickening the middle bars of the w and making the whole letter a little wider at the bottom. Throwing a bolder outline on it would help too. That hand at the bottom aint too shabby though. Keep at it.

3Cr1k7

08-20-2010, 07:41 PM

Dusk-Sick stuff dude. diggin your style

here are pretty much all my tags.
idk which ones i like the best or even if any of them are good. so crits would be much appreciated :) thanks.
http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b467/austinr317/Image117.jpg
http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b467/austinr317/Image112.jpg
http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b467/austinr317/Image111.jpg
http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b467/austinr317/Image110.jpg
http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b467/austinr317/Image5.jpg
http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b467/austinr317/Image3.jpg

MakeItTakeIt

08-20-2010, 08:52 PM

I lold hard at the 2nd one.

edit: Make that all of them. Start over.

Those bottom two aren't even letters, let alone words.

The bottom left of the 3rd pic is the only decent one out of all of em if you lose the halo. Still not very good, not hatin just keep writin. Study up on accomplished writers' hands, not to bite, but just to realize what you're doin wrong. Also, it's been said in this thread like 80,000 times but it's true. Start out plain and simple, like dusk did up there. Make your letters look like this:

CAIK

Lose all the extra shit, halos, quotes and such, even underlines. Just focus on the letters and let them speak for themselves. Keep writin it, eventually you'll develop style. Just please never put what you did in that 2nd pic on paper or anywhere else ever again.

sIeL.gAs

08-20-2010, 09:08 PM

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm271/jbang212121/Picture0005.jpg

MakeItTakeIt

08-20-2010, 09:11 PM

Same. Start simpler. Try not to mix upper and lowercase until you can flow it effectively.

Flawless Victory

08-21-2010, 12:13 AM

http://i34.tinypic.com/2vsf9n8.jpg

MakeItTakeIt

08-21-2010, 02:02 AM

The 2 color looks dope. The r and the t need to be more defined/separated, try an uppercase R. I like that a lot though.

What brand is that purple?

Flawless Victory

08-21-2010, 02:57 AM

ironlak... something.
the white is mtn, pink is a combo of the two.
I have an explanation/excuse about the r,
I was using one of those pink ny fats, shit came out WAAAAAY bigger on the white than the purple, did not expect that.

i don't use fancy paints often, got that shit fo' free.

MakeItTakeIt

08-21-2010, 05:02 AM

Word, I know what you mean. I was ragin till you said you got those for free haha. I don't see the point of expensive paint unless you're piecing or you get it for free somehow lol. Stick to walmart silvers and blacks, hallelujah holla back. :D

The letters were all just freestyle, crits and/or your favorite letters from the random stuff.

Crit my tag more harshly than the random letters

Looking at it again now that i'm posting it. My i is totally a j

Wish mine was the Lowkey tag, unfortunately its the Wyzrd one :P

Edit: Another random thought while looking at it. If i turned the first E in Peace sideways would it be an aight W?

And dont ask why i made the final N capital... i have no idea

Phillip McDougall

08-21-2010, 01:38 PM

You do realized that you spray painted a bunch of Mercedes logos around Brad's name, right?

MakeItTakeIt

08-21-2010, 01:41 PM

Brad- He loved his Mercedes

Flawless Victory

08-21-2010, 02:54 PM

Word, I know what you mean. I was ragin till you said you got those for free haha. I don't see the point of expensive paint unless you're piecing or you get it for free somehow lol. Stick to walmart silvers and blacks, hallelujah holla back. :D

That purple is purrrrdy though.
Dollar store PT is my fucking crack, son

PermanentMarkers

08-21-2010, 05:33 PM

You do realized that you spray painted a bunch of Mercedes logos around Brad's name, right?

Hah, after i did that i went to my friends house and there was a peace sign on their fridge... I was like "fuck, i always thought peace signs only had the 2 bars"

Mr yarbles

08-21-2010, 05:38 PM

I want to fuckin shoot myself.

PREA672

08-21-2010, 09:33 PM

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u138/Stolzy805/Picture1-3.png

on the creep.. philllll

ChadWarden

08-21-2010, 10:14 PM

here are pretty much all my tags.
idk which ones i like the best
http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b467/austinr317/Image111.jpg

nice start, although I think it would help your overall flow a shit load if you switched your I to an L. Caik is taken anyways.

proNYNJA

08-21-2010, 10:53 PM

i would say get one tag you like the best but make sure it flows, and practice it, or ask help from some other writers in your area on handstyles, cuz i aint really feeling any of those tags.
edit: or ask some1 on here for help wit tags(dont ask me, my handstyles arent that great)

Gyse

08-22-2010, 06:18 AM

Caik-Go with that one to the right of the black box. Work on it, it has the most potential. But lose the big ass halo and shit, just work on letters.
Brains- I like your B and R, and the top of your S looks good. Space the AIN out more and it might look better.

Was thinking the same thing. We actually have some similar letters. The top hand in the red marker is dope. Keep it up and work on that can control.

Flawless Victory

08-22-2010, 02:13 PM

that round hand is killer.

Phillip McDougall

08-22-2010, 02:40 PM

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u138/Stolzy805/Picture1-3.png

on the creep.. philllll

What do I write for you, brOprah Winfrey?

elpendejo123

08-22-2010, 05:17 PM

Aegr- ur tags are pretty nice, the last one in green is ur best one. you should try using rustoleum spray paint, its much easier to keep it from dripping.

Brains- try making your s a good bit smaller and just try to keep your letters symmetrical.

caik- get rid of the halo and other things and try to keep it more simple, the bottom left one is best.

Phillip McDougall

08-22-2010, 05:38 PM

See this? This is a perfect example of a kid you don't take crits from.

Gyse

08-22-2010, 07:09 PM

Aegr- ur tags are pretty nice, the last one in green is ur best one. you should try using rustoleum spray paint, its much easier to keep it from dripping.

The green was rusto and the black was dollar paint. Thanks for the crits everyone

PREA672

08-22-2010, 07:42 PM

fosho! haha

ps. el pendejo is a joke

Phillip McDougall

08-22-2010, 07:54 PM

haha Prea, what do I write for you? FoSho?

PREA672

08-22-2010, 08:16 PM

haha just prea, you dont even need to get me, i was just bored and trollin bs

Mr yarbles

08-23-2010, 12:27 AM

http://i36.tinypic.com/30w5zy1.jpg

Bring on the trumpets!

Heklr

08-23-2010, 12:41 AM

http://i34.tinypic.com/2vsf9n8.jpg

This needs work...

Try it with just two colors instead of three...

Maybe even start off in the books because it looks like you're a little confused as to where to put the shadow color and how to do it. The base letters, in white, have decent structure but all hell broke loose with the purple and pink.

Flawless Victory

08-23-2010, 12:47 AM

***** that IS two colors.
Not my fault they tried to fuck.
and the purple was the base hand, and there is no "shadow".
it's one hand on top of another hand.

any further inquiries may refer to my sig.

i know, i'm an arrogant prick, and graffiti is serious business; not fun or anything.

Heklr

08-23-2010, 01:10 AM

***** that IS two colors.
Not my fault they tried to fuck.
and the purple was the base hand, and there is no "shadow".
it's one hand on top of another hand.
Wow. You obviously have no idea as to what you were even trying to attempt...
Better work on your can control up close and personal. They weren't tryna' fuck.
You don't know how to work them colors.

i know, i'm an arrogant prick
For someone of mediocre skill, yes, you are quite arrogant.

any further inquiries may refer to my sig.
Wasn't hatin'. Just tryna' give you a critique. No need to get upset; but obviously you are, so maybe graffiti just isn't for you, kid.

Flawless Victory

08-23-2010, 01:12 AM

graffiti hasn't been for me for years, kid.

Heklr

08-23-2010, 01:14 AM

graffiti hasn't been for me for years, kid.

Alright, then. Guess we can drop it...
Sorry for the crit.
:rolleyes:

PREA672

08-23-2010, 01:37 AM

dont trip kids get prideful HeklrToo. put them in place, its all you gotta do

MakeItTakeIt

08-23-2010, 03:26 AM

Heklr is aptly named. And also an idiot.

"Graffiti is serious business"

hah

DECO ONE

08-23-2010, 03:48 AM

This needs work...

Try it with just two colors instead of three...

Maybe even start off in the books because it looks like you're a little confused as to where to put the shadow color and how to do it. The base letters, in white, have decent structure but all hell broke loose with the purple and pink.

Actually Flawless... i can completely understand where hes coming from with this.... if you actually look at this picture.. it looks like you laid a base with the White and attempted to shadow it with the purple..which turned pink over the white base... he wasnt being an asshole or anything in this post... he gave you a legitimate Crits.. and you downed on it... he was trying to be the bigger man and stop all the hating.. and try to give legitimate crits... your all gonna have to get over this little squables you have eventually.. why not just drop it and try to get along....

Alright. So graffiti isn't for you...
Why do you troll on here so frequently if you're not even into it?
It's like you just need people to talk with...

You got no friends? Zen skip town?

The hypocrisy in this post is simply amazing. So ill flip this on you. Since you bomb so hard, why do YOU troll here so frequently? Seems like you just need people to brag to about all your straights. Do you not have any friends?

Inb4 dick riding. None of that going on but get annoying quick as hell. Your not dropping crazy styles or anything. Its like the internet is your everything.

Heklr

08-23-2010, 11:39 PM

Leaks, you just come on here to be mean to people because you live a shitfuck of a life or something...

Before you start talking about hypocrisy, let's just take a step back here...
You're on a graffiti website.
You don't post any work of your own or look for help with your work.
You give a crit here and there but mostly you just talk...

Talk, talk, talk, talk, talk...

IbuprofenTablets

08-23-2010, 11:45 PM

Well, I do recall Leaks posting his stuff on here every once in a while.
Sure, it may not be painted, but he does post stuff on here.

I also think that you were just nit picking when you crit'd Fv's hand.
It's pretty obvious that he just went over his hand once more after doing it with a white color.
Purple+White=Pink. Just sayin'.

LeaksOne

08-23-2010, 11:49 PM

No my life is great. How's yours? And I'm my biggest critic so if I feel I need crits ill ask someone in person instead of relying on a website full of people ill most likely never meet. And I'm sowwy if I was too mean :rolleyes:

Heklr

08-24-2010, 12:02 AM

I also think that you were just nit picking when you crit'd Fv's hand.
They were valid crits if he was trying to add a drop to the handy. Obviously, he was just doing some wild and crazy 40OZ steez...

Purple+White=Pink. Just sayin'.

Red + White = Pink.

Purple + White = Lavender.

Unless you use Ironlak, apparently.

IbuprofenTablets

08-24-2010, 12:35 AM

Red + White = Pink.

Woops, you're right.
It still looked like pink, though.

Heklr

08-24-2010, 01:07 AM

Oh, it does look pink. I mean, it is. I'll give you that.
Ironlak is just funky.

Flawless Victory

08-24-2010, 05:33 AM

I have never had a ny fat get so fucking huge than when it's on a hardcore can.

dangeri

08-24-2010, 07:22 AM

Painting breeze blocks won't help either! That shits like a sponge, I normally use a shitty plasticote to stop it from eating my better cans :)

Willis1989

08-25-2010, 08:02 AM

My tag, dont know why I bothered to number because theres only very slight differences, what you guys think?

shit dude, I was using those fat ass crayons in kindergarten.
Letter for letter, that hand is dope, but as a whole, their too wide at the bottom for them to flow well together. if you spaced them out they'd look goofy at the top, and as they are they're too cluttered at the bottom.you feel me?

IbuprofenTablets

08-25-2010, 04:31 PM

So, you're saying I should make the letters less bottom heavy, and space them out a smigent?
If I do that, the top looks goofy. How do I fix that?

Oh, and this was some shit I made to have variety to my hands, so people could see different takes on Hair.
Was this a step in the wrong direction, or what?
http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/DirtyBed/Photo124.jpg

NouveauP

08-25-2010, 05:26 PM

I like the HairOne and HairUno posts. The other seems to be the weakest of the three. You don't need any crits from me though. Good work.

Heck- it seems like the blurry picture is by far your best hand. I'd lose the mountie hat on top and I think you're good.

Waste- just not a ton of structure or flow in any of those. Try to make all of your letters uniform in size. And for right now, I wouldnt switch cases. Just keep them all upper or, if you're like me most of the time, all lower case.

Been experimenting with cholo hands for a few days. This is the product. Work in progress. It says Encore.

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/NouveauP/img004.jpg

MakeItTakeIt

08-25-2010, 06:44 PM

My tag, dont know why I bothered to number because theres only very slight differences, what you guys think?

And as far as flow, number 7 takes it. You need a bit more structure though. I guess you could say give them more foundation, idk they just look flimsy to me. I aint no superstar though so you can take it or leave it. Either way, keep at it.

Flawless Victory

08-25-2010, 08:31 PM

yeah man, those other two are killer. I wouldn't even really change shit on them.

bluntkiller_905

08-26-2010, 01:15 AM

http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac356/bluntkiller_905/Picture54.jpg idk if this works mad chewd

bluntkiller_905

08-26-2010, 01:18 AM

http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac356/bluntkiller_905/Picture55.jpg not sure how to work this shit yet but once i get a camera ill take flicks of the street shit

Been interested for years, finally got the gumption to get started. Did this with a red sharpie (yeah, I know). This is just a simple tag, I've been working on NY style and whatnot as well. I'm getting some real markers and turning my kiwi shoe polish into a mop that I had laying around. Trying to work on my typography and just get a lot of practice in for now.

Comments? Questions? Advice?

Flawless Victory

08-26-2010, 11:09 PM

any the 2 names are?

scribble and chickenscratchoner

ChadWarden

08-27-2010, 12:07 AM

vague, keep your letters simple like they are right now. don't try to get fancy yet, just try to smooth em out and make them flow more. like they were meant to be together, knaw mean? you're off to a better start then most new members of the toy section.

hey guys im new here and as you can see i need a lot of help http://i36.tinypic.com/eg38ck.jpg

ViniVidiVici

08-29-2010, 12:19 PM

maybe I'm the only one but I like that hand saint. the thickness is the first half it is goofy so maybe change that, and maybe try to smooth out those curves around the 2010 and under the aint.

SAINT1

08-29-2010, 05:26 PM

i don't fully understand what ye mean man sorry :s

H1P30N3R

08-29-2010, 06:29 PM

I would say go more simple for now saint lose the quotes and the add ons get your letter flowing nice before worrying about the add ons. Don't be one of those cats who thinks all the jazzy arrows halos quotes and all are going to make the handstyle because the letters are what make it

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk21/jxpxbx22/102_1869.jpg

SAINT1

08-30-2010, 06:39 PM

ok :)

Invert

08-31-2010, 12:01 AM

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/6044/blueb.jpg

It's weak I know, just starting, any advice would be much appreciated.

Loone

08-31-2010, 07:49 AM

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/6044/blueb.jpg

It's weak I know, just starting, any advice would be much appreciated.

Maybe you should start by only using style on one letter and doing the rest in normal hand? Then try playing with the shape the letters into? (Like drawing a cirlcle and making the letters fill the circle? Just an idea.

And my tag \/\/\/ (Sig)

Loone

08-31-2010, 07:59 AM

For some reason my sig wont come up......?

Invert

09-01-2010, 01:22 AM

Maybe you should start by only using style on one letter and doing the rest in normal hand? Then try playing with the shape the letters into? (Like drawing a cirlcle and making the letters fill the circle? Just an idea.

And my tag \/\/\/ (Sig)

I can't see it looking good with style on the one letter ya know? I'll try it though all the same. Always looking for ideas.

And for the shape thing, you mean to do that to get some kind of warp to it almost?

Res-tooth Slims

09-01-2010, 06:14 AM

Yea with the REMS keep you letters pretty much the same size and have them all in a nice line because untill you fully understand the relationships that your letters have with each other and their shape (not to mention actual letter forms) your shits gunna turn out mad ugly...

aekone

09-03-2010, 11:28 PM

Dkode- That junt is gun sexy. I love the lower case 'e'
Roes- That looks pretty good man throw some style into that junt.
Saint- GET SIMPLE. Then get complex.
Hipe- Don't look terrible but make it flow.

Bleh. I know it's generic. But I like it. Crits?
http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww171/slapomania/Photo15.jpg

IbuprofenTablets

09-04-2010, 07:59 PM

I've always wanted to write something with an X in it.
http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/DirtyBed/Photo118.jpg

Gyse

09-05-2010, 10:53 PM

I've always wanted to write something with an X in it.
http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/DirtyBed/Photo118.jpg

Nice M and X. The letters in mix are all pointy but the letters in your one are mostly curves. It looks fine, but it might look better if it was more pointed. Also an underline or something would be cool.

Bleh. I know it's generic. But I like it. Crits?
http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww171/slapomania/Photo15.jpg
The only thing I'd say is try out a capital E or at least a smaller e.

Playing with some female stock caps. My can control still needs a lot of work.
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3807/dsc0118sz.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/dsc0118sz.jpg/)
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6152/dsc0136w.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/i/dsc0136w.jpg/)
Also I read in a newspaper today that a small city near me has put a $1000 reward for info leading to the arrest and conviction of Aegr. lol.

dubbed

09-06-2010, 08:18 AM

gyse im liking that aegr hand, not a fan of the extras though

NosE2

09-06-2010, 08:46 AM

lol aegr, i wouldnt be bragging about that, i hope you know there is cops on here...but those hands are lookin a lot cleaner than your other ones though..i would still try to tweak that A because it looks like a 4 to me

MASE P_2s

09-06-2010, 09:22 AM

You might need to learn some of this forums history. Change your name.

fuk that hes not writing his name on the forum hes writing his name on the streets so dont tell the kid to change his name off something from the e-net

KNS13

09-06-2010, 11:51 AM

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu261/Kema13/98ba790a.jpg

Gyse

09-06-2010, 01:32 PM

fuk that hes not writing his name on the forum hes writing his name on the streets so dont tell the kid to change his name off something from the e-net

Even if you don't care about the forum and internet shit, it doesn't matter. It's about respecting someone who died by not taking his name. It wouldn't matter if it was some no name toy, but that's not how it is.

Dubbed- Thanks, I'll try some other shit on it.
Nose- I know, Im not too worried about it because I don't write. I see how it could look like a 4. I'll mess with it.

edit-

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu261/Kema13/98ba790a.jpg
JH12? It doesn't look like a bad start, work on getting a solid structure down.

MASE P_2s

09-06-2010, 06:34 PM

Even if you don't care about the forum and internet shit, it doesn't matter. It's about respecting someone who died by not taking his name. It wouldn't matter if it was some no name toy, but that's not how it is.

Dubbed- Thanks, I'll try some other shit on it.
Nose- I know, Im not too worried about it because I don't write. I see how it could look like a 4. I'll mess with it.

edit-

JH12? It doesn't look like a bad start, work on getting a solid structure down.

ok he died no disrespect but comon really dnt take his name? theres prob 40 other ppl in the world that use his theres prob 40 ppl in the world that use my name n ur name its not disrespecting him if you use his name, thats like saying ynot msg (rip) was disrspecting ynottko (rip) after tko died

down!

09-06-2010, 08:32 PM

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4090/4965405749_7f590ae857.jpg

Gyse

09-06-2010, 08:56 PM

ok he died no disrespect but comon really dnt take his name? theres prob 40 other ppl in the world that use his theres prob 40 ppl in the world that use my name n ur name its not disrespecting him if you use his name, thats like saying ynot msg (rip) was disrspecting ynottko (rip) after tko died

I get what you mean, but I still wouldn't use a name that a notable writer has or had. If others do, that's their choice (I'll still give them a hard time for it though). Whatever, back to toy tags.

Kno- At least you're staying simple and not throwing arrows everywhere. Don't do that face in the O, and maybe tweak the N a little. The K isn't really working, try changing parts of it and see what looks better. Write your tag in a notebook 500 times then report back.

down!

09-06-2010, 09:06 PM

aight, thanks.

MASE P_2s

09-07-2010, 08:29 AM

I get what you mean, but I still wouldn't use a name that a notable writer has or had. If others do, that's their choice (I'll still give them a hard time for it though). Whatever, back to toy tags.

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yea i get where your comming from to just thought id put my two cents in lol

Phigure

09-07-2010, 07:55 PM

KNO - Try to put a little bit of space between the N and the O and remove the face.

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/8731/phigure.jpg

KNS13

09-07-2010, 08:02 PM

go wayyy simpler my friend

Phigure

09-07-2010, 08:05 PM

go wayyy simpler my friend

How could I simplify it? I don't know what it simpler than that, other than maybe the E could be simplified?

Gyse

09-07-2010, 08:29 PM

How could I simplify it? I don't know what it simpler than that, other than maybe the E could be simplified?

Don't do that with the G. You know what I mean. That left bar on the H is ridiculously small. A big curve on the R there doesn't work if it's not at the end of the name. Basically youre trying too hard. Do this: PHIGURE. And consider a shorter name.

MakeItTakeIt

09-07-2010, 08:39 PM

Word son, keyboard letters till you get familiar with your shit then add your own taste to it... slowly.

Phigure is a dope name but Gyse is right its a bit long especially for a toy

Phigure

09-07-2010, 08:47 PM

Word son, keyboard letters till you get familiar with your shit then add your own taste to it... slowly.

Phigure is a dope name but Gyse is right its a bit long especially for a toy

EDIT: I submitted that picture before I read your post. I'll start working on keyboard letters. =] Should I continue with Phigure, trash it, or work on other stuff along side with Phigure?

Don't do that with the G. You know what I mean. That left bar on the H is ridiculously small. A big curve on the R there doesn't work if it's not at the end of the name. Basically youre trying too hard. Do this: PHIGURE. And consider a shorter name.

I re-did Phigure, and also added Phalse (I royally fucked up the L) and Phound, but those last two seem rather generic. As for length, it has been an issue for me. I enjoy Phigure though, but I know that better tag > preferred name. I've wanted to use Phade, cause my initials are PH and it ties in with my actual name well, but I know he is a big name so I'm not going to do that.

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2919/tagiv.jpg

Task977

09-07-2010, 09:02 PM

EDIT: I submitted that picture before I read your post. I'll start working on keyboard letters. =] Should I continue with Phigure, trash it, or work on other stuff along side with Phigure?

I re-did Phigure, and also added Phalse (I royally fucked up the L) and Phound, but those last two seem rather generic. As for length, it has been an issue for me. I enjoy Phigure though, but I know that better tag > preferred name. I've wanted to use Phade, cause my initials are PH and it ties in with my actual name well, but I know he is a big name so I'm not going to do that.

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2919/tagiv.jpg

youre trying to make something above your own skill level, when youre starting out just do simple letters and tweak them then keep making changes and develop a style, it takes time.

anyways i thought id post this to get some crits
http://a.imageshack.us/img225/710/scan0001fq.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/i/scan0001fq.jpg/)

I re-did Phigure, and also added Phalse (I royally fucked up the L) and Phound, but those last two seem rather generic. As for length, it has been an issue for me. I enjoy Phigure though, but I know that better tag > preferred name. I've wanted to use Phade, cause my initials are PH and it ties in with my actual name well, but I know he is a big name so I'm not going to do that.

You pick your name. It's fine to work with a few until you get your shit down. It will probably help. Otherwise, follow task2's advice.

Task2- Not a bad start, good and simple. That swirl off the K is a bit excessive, and the K is a little far from the S. You're on the right track, practice.

VVV guy- I can only read 2 of those, Emit and Enzo. Google Emit graff. The Enzo tag is maybe your best one. Make the O bigger, stop doing arrows and trying to have style, and just do keyboard letters for a while.

ViniVidiVici

09-07-2010, 10:58 PM

Yeah I know, like I said I was just trying new words, Emit and enzo and exo are not my tags.

Didnt realise that someone who died used Waste, ive just been writing WIL recently anyway.

Phigure

09-08-2010, 04:15 PM

So I tried a simpler version of Phigure and came up with this. I'm pretty sure the P is too complicated,and the spacing could be a lot better, but other than that is this a good direction?

I wrote a little bit on a page of mostly simples (2nd picture), are any of them a good direction to head towards regarding simplicity and letter structure? I kind of splurged a couple of times a wrote what I wanted, not regarding practice or simplicity or anything, so ignore those. Haha.

The third picture is one I found on my computer a long time ago. It says "Axem". What do you think? Aside from the silly E and the tail of the E being part of the M. :rolleyes:
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/8731/phigure.jpg
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3109/img2904x.jpg
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/8715/072109193900.jpg

IbuprofenTablets

09-08-2010, 04:28 PM

Eww.

Phigure

09-08-2010, 04:31 PM

Eww.

Cool, dude. I know what to do now. Thanks. Can't wait to go and show my burners off now!

IbuprofenTablets

09-08-2010, 04:47 PM

No problem.
Be sure to do all of those tags outside, so people can see how well your tags look.

Phigure

09-08-2010, 04:57 PM

No problem.
Be sure to do all of those tags outside, so people can see how well your tags look.

Exactly. Thats why I'm practicing in a shitty college ruled notebook. So I can go out and show everyone how awesome I am at tagging. Why can't you just provide some criticism? I don't care if I have the worst attempt(s) at tagging ever, anyone can improve, but only with instruction. Replying "Eww" doesn't help me. It is obvious that I can't tag, I know that, it is why I'm in the toy forum and it is why I'm trying to improve. How can I do that when you don't tell me what is actually wrong with it, instead of just telling me how bad it is?

Phillip McDougall

09-08-2010, 05:18 PM

Keyboard letters.

Phigure

09-08-2010, 05:22 PM

Keyboard letters.

I'll do that. Do I practice until I can get even letters consistently, then add my own stuff or what? Thank you, by the way.

Gyse

09-08-2010, 06:36 PM

@Phigure

Keyboard letters.

This^.
There seems to be some confusion, because you're still doing to much shit to the letters, not copying the keyboard. So I circled the least shitty letters for you to put together.
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2536/phig.png (http://img15.imageshack.us/i/phig.png/)
Edit: The E I circled sucks too, do this -> E.

SicK-

09-08-2010, 07:13 PM

You dont Need instruction to become better at graffiti you just need to do it and not bitch when someone on the internet makes fun of you for posting something like that. If someone tells you what to do the entire time you progress you will never be able to do it on your own. So practice more before you post.

Phigure

09-08-2010, 07:30 PM

You dont Need instruction to become better at graffiti you just need to do it and not bitch when someone on the internet makes fun of you for posting something like that. If someone tells you what to do the entire time you progress you will never be able to do it on your own. So practice more before you post.

I'm just wanting some guidance for beginning. I don't want to develop any bad habits. Would you rather see someone posting on here in the way that I am, or posting once every week still doing the same shit over and over and not progressing, while they are keeping their bad habits, letter-style, or whatever? If I'm trying to learn too much than my bad. I apologize. I would rather ask questions than forgiveness.

So instead of posting another picture (which seems to bother you guys), I'll just ask my question.

I understand that I need to practice keyboard letters over and over. With this, am I ultimately working towards better bar and letter structure, or to create a unique, no flaws tag? If the former, when would I know to start adding my own twists to it? When I can write the perfect keyboard letter a thousand times, or when I can write my tag (with keyboard letters mind you) with the same height, letter structure, and spacing?

tl;dr - When do I start adding my own style?

Phillip McDougall

09-08-2010, 09:30 PM

When you have a clean simple handstyle with slight flow.

Get Rekt!

09-08-2010, 09:32 PM

these arent that consistant. but some are decent.
http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm362/mitchconley/0908002122.jpg

You add your own style when you feel llike it, noone can tell you when to add your own style it comes with practice not someone telling you. There is no set guidline for graffiti, you do something when you want its not like do 1000 keyboard letters and then add style it happens over time with practice

exitus

09-08-2010, 10:57 PM

http://i51.tinypic.com/dcbvco.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/33lnhg3.jpg

cuccui - mad ill, i like the outline too nice touche

scam - drop the first line on the M, do stars not squiggles

one evil- very nice

KRE1

09-08-2010, 11:06 PM

so wen did the toy forum start filling up wit whiney lil bitches?

Tokyo_ROCKABILY-CLub

09-08-2010, 11:12 PM

shit dude MER and WRECK i think are the most original names ive ever seen great job dude. anyways i suggest look up some 4 letter words in a dictionary, what marker is that your using?

exitus

09-08-2010, 11:58 PM

there are only so many words out there, and i know of no wrecks. when I find one ill change my name though.

http://www.fineartstore.com/Catalog/tabid/365/List/1/CategoryID/17719/Level/a/Default.aspx?SortField=UnitCost,UnitCost
i bought them at a blick in chicago which didnt sell spraypaint so idk waterbased.
gonna order some markers online though, 6 cans come in tommorow

exitus don't let anyone tell you what to or not write...mo only suggestion is to keep your online and street name seperate...you dont want to be on the internet all day on about what you write..because believe it or not,it's not the most appropriate thing to do...it might seem cool at first but,when dpt of homeland security gets involved your perception will change drastically,,,from experience i speak this truth...oh and Daip halo's for Eye dots,kinda girlie,like hello kitty-ish...perhaps a star or a capitol I,or even a spade,but halo's are for bed wetters

thanks for the tip, not trying to be cool or anything i just come here like every 2-3 months to see if im getting better lol, also for crits but kinda shity luck so far :p although i guess change your name is a crit too
daip-change the p take out the underline
kerst-is that digital?

CuCCui

09-11-2010, 05:17 PM

the kerst tag up there was hand drawn then i just canged the levels in windows live view..to make it look like that originally it was blue with a pink outline on a white background.

nigguh its a tag. gritty does it. are you guna outline your tags twice on the street as well?

CuCCui

09-13-2010, 08:14 AM

^^^ sure why not

Phillip McDougall

09-13-2010, 07:24 PM

You're retarded, and your handstyles suck. Stop outlining them until you can learn to make a handstyle look good on it's own.

EXI

09-13-2010, 08:28 PM

Here's my first time every trying tags with my name :s.
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk69/flyffm4ner/221.jpg

bump for crit, im rolin with #4 right now

Flawless Victory

09-13-2010, 08:31 PM

nah dude. Don't write giant.

EXI

09-13-2010, 08:39 PM

nah dude. Don't write giant.

Why not?

LeaksOne

09-13-2010, 08:45 PM

BECAUSE HE'S A VERY WELL KNOWN WRITER. Some names are off limits within a certain area but Giant is known across the country. That's like trying to "make COPE your own". Do some fucking research you clown.

EXI

09-13-2010, 08:47 PM

BECAUSE HE'S A VERY WELL KNOWN WRITER. Some names are off limits within a certain area but Giant is known across the country. That's like trying to "make COPE your own". Do some fucking research you clown.

moan, mone
shade, sesh, salt, send, sense, slob, slam, sold
idk most of those are taken but any suggestions?

Flawless Victory

09-13-2010, 09:06 PM

salt seems like a dope hands and pieces, but a shitty throw.
the rest are kind of corny/don't sound good to me.

CuCCui

09-13-2010, 11:38 PM

You're retarded, and your handstyles suck. Stop outlining them until you can learn to make a handstyle look good on it's own.
well lets try this,i took a photo darkened the exposure a bit to get to what you see...

the main reason i outline them is because when i scan them in it looks too brite
other than that I have no IDEA what so ever what any of you are yapping on about...hands are supposed to be a "SIGNATURE" not what ever it is you think it's supposed to be.and one of my "SIGNATURE" embelishments is to outline a paper hand...besides that some of you should really be ashamed of what you are putting on the street,and you wonder why they get buffed,shit is trash

EXI

09-13-2010, 11:40 PM

What name you guys think would be good for bombs, pieces?
Oxy
Sope
Sope79
Jc79

I'm lost with name... ://.

CuCCui

09-13-2010, 11:43 PM

^^^ sure why not

Sarcasm^^^

LeaksOne

09-13-2010, 11:51 PM

try them all and choose for yourself. just do a rough sketch with each of those names.

the main reason i outline them is because when i scan them in it looks too brite
other than that I have no IDEA what so ever what any of you are yapping on about...hands are supposed to be a "SIGNATURE" not what ever it is you think it's supposed to be.and one of my "SIGNATURE" embelishments is to outline a paper hand...besides that some of you should really be ashamed of what you are putting on the street,and you wonder why they get buffed,shit is trash

uhhhhh son that s and t are fucking killin shit!!! hahahaha....and dog those drips are sooooo illlllll. Oh and by the way, hands don't get buffed because of how they look. I'm seriously starting to think your about a fresh 17, 'cause you sure as hell are acting it. ahaaa