Overnight Open Thread (6-7-2016)

I also love the Intertunnel for turning "Benghazi" into the term for, as the Urban Dictionary defines it: An attempt to cover a screw up so bad that it will cost you everything, then lie, get caught, & continue to lie to try & cover the lies.

A professor at Santa Monica College took a group of students on an "EcoSexual Sextravaganza" trip earlier this month, during which they "married the ocean". The students were specifically instructed to think of this marriage as one involving sex, and encouraged to "consummate" the marriage and "make love to the water" by sticking parts of their bodies into it.

Count on flower children at NPR to go over the edge with this issue. The problem isn't the size and strength, and therefore power of professional football players. No, it's - ready? - the evil game of football itself.

Commentator Frank Deford used to love football, but now he just drops bombs on it. On Wednesday's Morning Edition on National Public Radio, Deford's weekly commentary was titled "What Is Football Doing to Us as a People?" He asked on air "So what is football doing to us as a people? How do we explain an America that, alone in the world, so loves this savage sport?"

This is your taxpayer-funded broadcasting in action: Planned Parenthood selling dead baby parts is just a "women's health" group aiding "medical research," but the NFL is organized savagery.

It turns out that criminals like to operate within their geographic comfort zone which is an area near their homes but not too-near. So with enough sample points you can statistically guess where they live.

Dr. Kim Rossmo of Texas State University, who studies the geography of crime, has found that criminals tend to behave according to reliable geographic patterns. Rossmo's formula (and that's not just a turn of phrase - there is something called "Rossmo's formula") is used to explain how serial thieves, rapists and other criminals commit their offenses at a close-but-not-too-close distance from their home. When this geospatial analysis is combined with more traditional evidence, it can help narrow down a list of suspects.

Now, Rossmo thinks his methods have helped identify the long-hidden identity of the street artist Banksy.

Now, the Oklahoma Highway Patrol has a device that also allows them to seize money in your bank account or on prepaid cards.

It's called an ERAD, or Electronic Recovery and Access to Data machine, and state police began using 16 of them last month.

Here's how it works. If a trooper suspects you may have money tied to some type of crime, the highway patrol can scan any cards you have and seize the money.

...Troopers insist this isn't just about seizing cash.

"I know that a lot of people are just going to focus on the seizing money. That's a very small thing that' s happening now. The largest part that we have found ... the biggest benefit has been the identity theft," Vincent said.

"If you can prove can prove that you have a legitimate reason to have that money it will be given back to you. And we've done that in the past," Vincent said about any money seized.

The Mexican police may be corrupt but they at least limit themselves to the cash in your wallet. (Thanks to JTT)

Most of my reloading equipment is Lee mainly because they're lower-priced, provide good value, and because it was their sub-$100 Lee Anniversary reloading kit that got me into reloading in the first place. They're also proud of the fact that all of their products are designed and manufactured in the US. And one of the best sources for Lee products online has been FS Reloading which has been around for a long time and was just down the street from Lee in Wisconsin.

However my last order from FS Reloading was in February and after six weeks (long enough for me to have forgotten about it - luckily it wasn't critical) I noticed that I hadn't heard anything from them other than an initial order response and finally emailed them to make sure that the order did go through. They assured me that it was being processed and about two weeks later my package finally arrived. Apparently I wasn't the only one having problems with orders because I received this email from FS Reloading a few days ago:

Where's My Stuff?

Dear FS Reloading Customers,

My name is Jonathan Carter, General Manager of Pictor Design, LLC, the web hosting provider for FS Reloading. I regret to inform you that the owner of Factory Sales, LLC and FS Reloading, Greg Ehlenbach has been suffering from declining health for some time and is no longer able to operate his business.

Pictor Design is owed a great deal of money by FS Reloading. While reviewing the situation, I was dismayed to find a large number of customers waiting for orders that haven't been shipped. I didn't want to see FS Reloading simply close its doors leaving me unpaid and you unserved.

Fortunately we reached an agreement with Greg Ehlenbach on June 1, 2016 for Pictor Design to acquire many of the assets related to fsreloading.com. As a result, Pictor Design has taken over the operation of the FS Reloading web site.

John Lee of Lee Precision has graciously agreed to help us and you who are owed Lee Products by shipping the past due orders direct to each customer. You will receive a tracking number as soon as Lee Precision can process and ship the orders.

Now that we have direct control of the web site, you can expect steady improvements in service and support.

My staff and I are excited to be taking over fsreloading.com. Many of us are avid hunters, shooters and reloaders just like you. We have built and maintained shooting industry web sites since 1994 and look forward to now serving your reloading needs. We greatly appreciate your support and patience during this transition and look forward to great things coming soon.

Jonathan Carter, General Manager Pictor Design, LLC.

Since then there have been several updates on the status of orders and the company, and Lee Precision has been working with them logistically (and I suspect financially) to make sure all customers' orders are fulfilled as soon as possible. It's nice to see two companies showing integrity while trying to make the best of a bad situation for their customers. So I wanted to give them some props for it.

TCAPS is $2,000 pair of earbuds designed to limit battlefield noise exposure, cutting off noise that reach a set decibel threshold. The wearer can still hear gunshots and estimate their direction, but the noise is dampened to a non-damaging level thanks to microphones that detect the noise, and internals that use sound canceling technology to modify it for a wearer's ears.

At the same time, the decibel cap allows TCAPS-equipped soldiers to hear the voices of others around him, including through radios and other communications equipment.

Not only is TCAPS a safety device, it's also an acoustic sensor: The same microphones the system uses to constantly detect and screen noise can be turned up to detect sounds even the naked human ear would have trouble finding.

Fox isn't sure she wants to follow her string theory vision anymore. "I don't think acting is my ultimate passion," she says about a week before the "Ninja Turtles" opening. "I have other skill sets and gifts that are much, much stronger that I am obligated to exercise and use. I'm really more intellectually minded."

"I've always been into alternative history, antiquities, archaeology. I've always been really consumed by these deep mysteries that exist on our planet that can't be explained today by science. They eat away at me."

Read on to discover the truth about the Egyptian pyramids that only a hawt string-theorist/actress could reveal.

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Which is more important to you, the "right" of a man to "identify" as a woman and use the ladies' restroom, or the safety of little girls. For most Progressives, including the ACLU, the obvious answer is to support the "trans-woman". For some Progressives who have daughters, that answer isn't so obvious.

"Because of Donald Trump's candidacy, because of the things he said about Latinos and Muslims, a number of major national companies pulled out of funding the Republican Convention and then to be fair, and not to show favoritism towards us, they pulled out and didn't fund us as well," Rendell said.

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My friends, we have nothing to fear with Barack Obama Hillary Clinton in the White House

Posted by: John McCain at June 07, 2016 11:34 PM (12kBq)

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Well about the boys beating the women at soccer...
There is a rumor that a similar age group of boys easily defeated the US women's national team in 1999. That women's team contained legends like Mia Hamm, Michelle Akers, and Julie Foudy.

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"What the fuck happened in CA? Polls showed a tied race, Hillary is winning by 20%. But yeah, polls are totes accurate and stuff."

In those parts of Commiefornia where the tentacles of Clintonworld have sufficient reach, independent decline-to-state voters who requested a partisan Democratic ballot (on which they are entitled to vote per request) were instead given provisional ballots.

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26 Well about the boys beating the women at soccer...
There is a rumor that a similar age group of boys easily defeated the US women's national team in 1999. That women's team contained legends like Mia Hamm, Michelle Akers, and Julie Foudy.
Posted by: Rory at June 07, 2016 11:34 PM (BHaRb)

Once boys hit puberty, 14-15 years old, even the best women in the world can't play with them. I read the same story at one point. I know a woman who was on the training team in 1999. Can't beat biology.

66Fox is as mentally ill as I suspected.
I had heard hardly anyone wanted to work with her. Now I see why. She's nutty even by H-wood standards.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 07, 2016 11:41 PM (hVdx9)

I'm surprised Michael Bay is still working with her after what she said about him previously.

Posted by: AD at June 07, 2016 11:43 PM (yIz0Q)

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Does Megan Fox have a theory on the Yang-Mills existence and mass-gap problem? I'm sure lots of mathematicians would like to hear her opinion on that

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Axl Rose is now touring as a member of AC/DC, and he ain't happy that his fatassed pics are being memed :

http://tinyurl.com/hv7g9mt

(Daily Mail)

Thas some funny shit.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 07, 2016 11:46 PM (gyKtp)

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I'm pretty sure all we need to do to make football socially acceptable and politically correct is to have mixed-gender teams... and make it all non-contact. Oh, and play continues until it's a tie so no team has feelzbads. Problem solved!

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Cops seizing all your cash then giving it back when you're found not guilty is kind of the reverse of our entire justice system. I'm getting pretty tired of police cutting corners because it makes their life easier.

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28 Hi all
Thanks to Maet as usual for a great ONT
Well this is it for me
I will miss some of you
See you later, maybe

Posted by: chemjeff @ phone at June 07, 2016 11:34 PM (X4kvi)

What the......???

Posted by: cthulhu at June 07, 2016 11:49 PM (EzgxV)

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I think the pyramids were used to move the Earth and park it in orbit. All the monoliths were to check that it was in the right spot. I think the Earth itself is a resort area and humans are the entertainment.

I would explain how you move a planet with a pyramid but I know I have already lost you. :-)

The Truman Show was a way of telling everyone what was going on without anyone believing it.

Posted by: ok at June 07, 2016 11:49 PM (CRXed)

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70 Few things are sadder than a fundamentally stupid person who is convinced they are brilliant, Ms Fox.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
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I predict a career trajectory quite similar to her friend Shia LaBooof.

Posted by: Chi at June 07, 2016 11:49 PM (DoY1a)

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47 "What the fuck happened in CA? Polls showed a tied race, Hillary is winning by 20%. But yeah, polls are totes accurate and stuff."

928 They weighed-down those paratroopers with way too much shit.
Posted by: eman at June 07, 2016 11:28 PM (MQEz6)

That's what being a paratrooper is all about. Gotta have a main. Gotta have a reserve. Gotta have your weapon. Gotta have your ruck so you have shit to live on when you hit the ground until you secure an airfield and let friendly birds arrive with supplies.

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If Ali had ever showed contrition for his hate whitey stances I'd feel more about his passing. It has been a meh to me.

Posted by: Timon at June 07, 2016 11:51 PM (WofFW)

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It's all aliens. Everything is about aliens. I actually listened to some of Linda Moulton Howe's crap, who is still going with George Whats-his-face (I miss Art Bell), and I came to that conclusion. Everything that ever happened in human history is because of aliens.

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I'm writing in Carson/Fox this year. All weird pyramid theories, all the time.

Posted by: irright at June 07, 2016 11:52 PM (XfEYT)

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The OK story reminds me of the news from one of the New England states a few months back. One of the towns up there (can't remember which one off the top of my head) passed a law that would have allowed cops to rifle through cars with unlocked doors.

Fortunately, the local citizens found out about the new law before it went live, and the town council suddenly had a rapid change of mind over the law.

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"Because of Donald Trump's candidacy, because of the things he said about Latinos and Muslims, a number of major national companies pulled out of funding the Republican Convention and then to be fair, and not to show favoritism towards us, they pulled out and didn't fund us as well," Rendell said.

Their dies are often excellent, especially the Factory Crimp dies which are a must-have, and the Anniversary kit is a great way to inexpensively dip your toes into reloading (that's how I started). I'm actually in the process of retiring several of my die sets from other manufacturers, in favor of the Lee dies.

And the priming system on the Anniversary press is a lot better than on my Lyman turret press, even if the Lee uses entirely too much soft plastic. I never used to get shallow-pressed primers with the Lee, but 10% shallow primers is common with the Lyman. Which pains me because with the exception of the priming, I really love the Lyman press.

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Maet, Thanks for the info on FS reloading. Ninety percent of my reloading gear is from Lee. It's the best value out there for presses, dies, and bullet molds. I'm not surprised they are working to make the orders good. Customer satisfaction has always been one of their strengths.

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@106
They claim they aren't on it.
At least, not very much on it.
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Right up until someone *cough*Mitt Romney*cough* starts to seriously discuss removing the government money stream from one of PBS's most commercially successful shows.

Posted by: junior at June 08, 2016 12:05 AM (+ULUe)

141Megan Fox Has Some Theories About The Egyptian Pyramids And Their True Purpose

At age 17, Fox tested out of school via correspondence in order to move to Los Angeles, California.

A mail-order general studies high school diploma. In Science!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 08, 2016 12:05 AM (kdS6q)

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Saw a Yahoo writer "debunking" the claim about the Trump case judge being part of La Raza. Claimed the names were just a coincidence (why, Google the name and all kinds of stores with it come up) and completely unrelated. And the illegal they gave money to? He declared he was an illegal AFTER he got the award.
Yes, I'm suuuure they didn't know...or care.
All one biiig coincidence. Nothing to see here bigots.
They can pretend they aren't part of the La Raza network, but it's clear they have the same beliefs and goals in mind.

Honestly, I'm not the guy to ask about that. I don't do a lot of rifle reloading, it's mostly handgun stuff for me. Most of my rifle reloading has been either simple 223 practice ammo or replacing magnetic 7.62x54R bullets in surplus with modern non-magnetic for use at ranges in SoCal when I was living there.

I'll say this much. Don't try to do the magnetic/nonmagnetic swap without crimping. Especially with modern boattail bullets, there's not enough bearing surface in the surplus steel 54R cases to keep the bullets secure without crimping in place. Yeah, I've had those rounds literally fall apart in the magazine of my Finn M39 when I tried that without crimps.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 08, 2016 12:14 AM (LuZz8)

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150 Never understood "chemjeff". I gather he's been a Moron for some time...
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 08, 2016 12:07 AM
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He's a great guy.

Normally there is enough elasticity in the brass to hold the bullet when properly annealed, but when there is a short bearing surface, like a pointy boat-tailed bullet, or there is a lot of recoil, like in a heavy rifle, the concussion can move the bullet in or out as the rifle and brass move as one and the bullet, in accordance to Newton's first law (figs and bullets stay in one place until moved due to inertia) doesn't move at the same time.

The seating depth can be crucial to the last iota of accuracy for people who can shoot better than I can, and there may be some headspace or concern about excessive air-space resulting in the cartridge above the powder charge (which is suspected to be the culprit in some minimal powder-charge explosions)

On the other hand I've also had .38 shorts walk their bullet out in an old revolver too, but that was a combination of worn chambers, heavy bullets and a sharp recoil from a lightweight pistol

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I read that article, and what the cops are taking is apparently only loaded gift cards like to Walmart if something. They take that money. And somehow with the device they are able to get information on credit cards or something. But they only take the money on the gift cards.

Not that that or any of the seizure stuff is acceptable, of course. But that's what I got from the article.

You did this to yourself. I hate you for being funnier than me at a base level! ...lol.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 08, 2016 12:23 AM (OQ9R7)

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Is there a legitimate thing as a bisexual man? Everyone here says that all bisexual men are actually deeply closeted gay men. What do you think?
Posted by: L, Elle at June 08, 2016 12:21 AM (6IPEM)

I'm from the Andrew Dice Clay school of thought. There is no "bisexual" man. You either suck dick or you don't suck dick.

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Okay. I didn't miss someone else earlier in the thread. And sorry for transposing your name parts.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 08, 2016 12:25 AM (PLnZs)

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91 As a callow youth I was reflexively supportive of cops. Protect and serve, law and order, all that. Now, I'm just about at the point of saying fuck 'em.
Posted by: Insomniac
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^THIS
(Local squad cars no longer display "To Prect And Serve" on the vehicles)

If you've ever had it hit home, you'd understand. Ever had a cop flat out lie to your face? Lie in court to a judge to get a speeding (or whatever minor shit) conviction that you have zero chance of "winning" with honesty?
Fuck them. It is now just another city/state $ ATM for the taxpayers.
Look into your local "public safety" budget and all that it entails - you'd be appalled to know what they get paid for.
Again, Fuck them.
I'd be hard pressed to find a reason to care about anything police related anymore, unless it involved the rare conviction for corruption.

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Thank GAWD LORD JESUS IN HEAVEN that the primary season is finally OVER[/i}!!!!! :0 !!!

Now can we finally stop all the pointless hypotheticals, the cringe-inducing butthurt, the third-party fantasies, the wild speculations about "brokered conventions" and "changing the rules" and all the needless mishigass of the last four months?????

Clinton won big in California: She is the Democratic nominee. Period.

Trump now has far more bound delegates than he needs for the nomination: He is the Republican nominee. Period.

Everything else: flush it out the toilet at 30,000 feet -- whoosh, there it goes.

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194 I read that article, and what the cops are taking is apparently only loaded gift cards like to Walmart if something. They take that money. And somehow with the device they are able to get information on credit cards or something. But they only take the money on the gift cards.

Not that that or any of the seizure stuff is acceptable, of course. But that's what I got from the article.

Posted by: Alana at June 08, 2016 12:22 AM (2nemP)

Wouldn't people just contest the charges and tell the issuing companies it'd be a cold day in hell when that balance was paid?

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>>>> I'm from the Andrew Dice Clay school of thought. There is no "bisexual" man. You either suck dick or you don't suck dick.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at June 08, 2016 12:23 AM (0mRoj)
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Sigh. That's what I think too.
I'm in love with a gay guy.
* pats myself on the back *

221184 Great, you're here still. This is a serious question.
I understand gay men and lesbians. I don' t understand bisexuality except I sorta do in women. Not in men though.

Is there a legitimate thing as a bisexual man? Everyone here says that all bisexual men are actually deeply closeted gay men. What do you think?
Posted by: L, Elle at June 08, 2016 12:21 AM (6IPEM)

I suppose it is possible. It certainly would be very difficult to prove for sure.

If a person does bisexual things and does not seem conflicted, that could very well mean they are bisexual.

Ask gay men what they think. I bet they have good insight on it.

Posted by: eman at June 08, 2016 12:27 AM (MQEz6)

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I like ChemJeff also, but he has been on this Quixote quest of a hobby horse for so long it seems an automatic reflex for him to spew it all over again in every thread. So I am not going to interact with him, he's ignored.

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Nice delayed double flounce, mindful! Or did you stretch it to a triple?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 08, 2016 12:28 AM (NeFrd)

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One way to curtail this civil asset forfeiture bullshit is to audit each department and each cop who processed the CFA. If the cops bought themselves personally as much as a dinner at Denny's with the stolen cash, bring them individually up on embezzlement charges.

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I not only had a Cop in a Court lie, but I caught him in that lie and the Judge refused to do anything about it.

'Pay the fine, son.'

Afterwards, the Judge offered to write me a letter of recommendation for Seton Hall Law School.

Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2016 12:29 AM (lheeg)

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222 I like ChemJeff also, but he has been on this Quixote quest of a hobby horse for so long it seems an automatic reflex for him to spew it all over again in every thread. So I am not going to interact with him, he's ignored.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 08, 2016 12:27 AM (RbRGC)

That's been the problem. I used to like the guy, but he's become a fanatical one-note Johnny this election cycle and it got beyond grating.

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virtue signalling is a way of demonstrating "I am a good person and I understand what is necessary and right and you should let me have more responsibility and power over other people and things than you let me have now because I perform actions you will approve of"

but I am bitter.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2016 12:29 AM (ry34m)

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181 Hell. Nobody ever asks me a serious question. Maybe I'll leave too. Is flouncing mandatory or optional?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
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I have a Sirius question for you - why can't I get that Blues station in my Prius?

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>>> Have you thought about falling in love with a straight guy? Just thinking out loud...
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at June 08, 2016 12:28 AM (0mRoj)
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I thought he was straight. Married and recently divorced. Just told me recently about being bi.

-- Don't read the Internet
-- Don't even know what "virtue signalling" is, much less engage in it
-- Could not name one pundit, and don't give a shit what they think
-- Vote with their gut, not their mind
-- Don't care who does or does not endorses who

We are in a bubble, here in blogland. Too many of us don't realize it, though.

250As a callow youth I was reflexively supportive of cops. Protect and serve, law and order, all that. Now, I'm just about at the point of saying fuck 'em.

Yeah, I'm leaning that way too, sadly. I really want to be on their side because the job is hard and everyone rips on them all the time and they are protecting us and bringing stability to the culture but...

they're going too far with the tech and the use of new gadgets. And the people being arrested for filming, etc, the "confiscations" that are hell to get back, its becoming really tough to defend the men in blue. I know they are not all like that, and every cop I've interacted with is a great guy but man...

I've had cops lie to my face, threaten and intimidate friends of mine, and brutalize one of my relatives. I have been paying a lot more attention over the last few years to the bullshit they pull on a routine basis, not to mention the "war on drugs" crap and related rape of the 4th Amendment, as well as civil forfeiture and all the abuse that goes with it. I'm over it.

259He had a piece up today wishcasting that the GOP will rewrite all the rules and nominate appoint anyone, anyone at all, other than Trump.

Was that the one saying he feared the GOP was going to pull some procedural trick and replace Trump, but he could see no one that would not destroy the party and result in Hillary winning? In which he pointed out the only goal is to defeat Hillary?

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>>> Well, luckily love is a decision and not an emotion. If you feel romantic about this gay fellow, then you can decide that is a bad choice and move on. Romance is not love, and vice versa.
No point to tilting at windmills, dear.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 08, 2016 12:31 AM (+YMhA)
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That is not true. Love has a lot of emotion involved. It's not math. I'm not that cold a person.

I love him and he loves me. That part is genuine. He just likes men too. The last part is the problem.

Posted by: L, Elle at June 08, 2016 12:38 AM (6IPEM)

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233 I not only had a Cop in a Court lie, but I caught him in that lie and the Judge refused to do anything about it.

'Pay the fine, son.'

Afterwards, the Judge offered to write me a letter of recommendation for Seton Hall Law School.

Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2016 12:29 AM (lheeg)

I got a ticket for speeding on the Simi Valley Freeway. Cop said he'd been tailing me for miles.....problem was, I hadn't been on that freeway for miles. Story completely changed in court to something equally fishy -- I was trying to frame my rebuttal when the judge-advocate-rent-a-judge said, "I know that stretch of road very well, it's easy to just get going a little faster and a little faster until I find I'm over the limit. Guilty."

I was slackjawed, thinking, "it's a good thing you're not a fuckin' serial killer, judge -- 'cause that same line of reasoning could put me in The Chair."

Posted by: cthulhu at June 08, 2016 12:38 AM (EzgxV)

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Yep. We are, at best, 5% of the electorate. Yet we argue like we are 80%.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 08, 2016 12:35 AM (YLidQ)

That's why conservatism in general is dead. The overwhelming majority of this country doesn't want limited this, no to that, stop the free shit those.

It's almost painful to listen to Mark Levin sometimes because he still thinks it has a chance of a comeback in his lifetime.

Posted by: Blano at June 08, 2016 12:39 AM (lbcdD)

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Was that the one saying he feared the GOP was going to pull some procedural trick and replace Trump, but he could see no one that would not destroy the party and result in Hillary winning? In which he pointed out the only goal is to defeat Hillary?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2016 12:35 AM (39g3+)

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Except for the part about "fear", yes.

I feel that the GOP Establishment played along with Trump for what they felt was a reasonable period of pretending, but now, a Decent Interval has passed, and they can abandon Trump.

Gee, I wonder which immigrants to very, very, very multicultural Toronto were being courted with the ban? (See the sock link; online poll as well if you're into that sort of thing... at least until it's banned too.)

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I had to look up the latest on this male bisexual crap. There have been studies that seem to indicate it doesn't exist. Men are either *physiologically* attracted to either women or men.

However, this is apparently a big thing. We exist dammit! claim the self-identified bisexual men and it's apparently a PC thing. How dare you criticize what we say we identify as and all that shit.

There are some studies that expanded on this idea, and expanded the material used to test for physical arousal. It included "bisexual content", showing shit like 2 men and 1 woman, with the men going gay. Supposedly, a very small percentage of men were more aroused by that than anything, and this claim is "they are most aroused by bisexual behavior*, therefore they exist.

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After that gay guy didn't get hired by any NFL team, I was quoted as saying, "Great! Can all the gays stop pretending to be football fans now?"

Looks like they took me up on that.

Posted by: RKae at June 08, 2016 12:41 AM (kLw2y)

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That is not true. Love has a lot of emotion involved. It's not math. I'm not that cold a person.

I love him and he loves me. That part is genuine. He just likes men too. The last part is the problem.

Posted by: L, Elle at June 08, 2016 12:38 AM (6IPEM)

Yes, love includes emotion, but it is a decision that you make. You DO have control over it, unlike the emotions that rule most folks when it comes to finding a mate. When you love, you become selfless toward that person, which means that the emotions that might or might not drive you become moot. You have chosen the highest and best for the other, not yourself. If that is NOT the case, then it isn't truly love and probably isn't likely to work out.

At no point did he say or even imply that he wanted them to replace Trump. He said straight out that if they did so, Hillary wins, which is his worst case scenario. Get it? He doesn't want that to happen. I know it was a lot of words, but... reading is fundamental.

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I love him and he loves me. That part is genuine. He just likes men too. The last part is the problem.

Posted by: L, Elle at June 08, 2016 12:38 AM (6IPEM)

He doesn't love you enough to give up men. Time to move on.

Posted by: Blano at June 08, 2016 12:42 AM (lbcdD)

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>>>>> Well, I wouldn't rush to dump him just yet.
They are really handy when it comes to stuff like interior decorating.
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2016 12:33 AM (lheeg)
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Hahaha. Except I'm half crying. We had the best conversation about tablecloths and place settings and silverware.

Posted by: L, Elle at June 08, 2016 12:43 AM (6IPEM)

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269 How many initially "bisexual" people finally end up picking one sex? I'd wager at least 65%

What really grates me are these idiots who claim to be "gender fluid".

Posted by: Thrawn at June 08, 2016 12:37 AM (wQWv4)

I thought "gender fluid" was that little puddle on one side of the bed....

Posted by: cthulhu at June 08, 2016 12:43 AM (EzgxV)

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Jim, Slapweasel... get a room. Hear the Barrel is quite spacious if you don't mind things that go 'squish' and throb.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 08, 2016 12:43 AM (RbRGC)

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294 >>>>> Well, I wouldn't rush to dump him just yet.
They are really handy when it comes to stuff like interior decorating.
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2016 12:33 AM (lheeg)
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Hahaha. Except I'm half crying. We had the best conversation about tablecloths and place settings and silverware.
Posted by: L, Elle at June 08, 2016 12:43 AM (6IPEM)

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From the gay friends I have known, gay and bi men really get around.
It is FAR easier to have gay sex than straight sex. If he says he's only been with a few men, I would not believe it.
No, not all of them are having nightly gay gangbangs, but it's not an example of persecution that they have to patrol public bathrooms to keep them from getting it on in them.

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@253
I could write a book, Insomniac (if I could actually, you know, write a proper sentence).

Silly, but:
I'm STILL going to court because I told a City code guy (part of police department) to fuck himself and get off my property 9 months ago.
Nine months, 5 days in court (so far), and a Saturday afternoon in jail. Because I didn't say "yes, sir."
Before it's all over, I'll probably spend another day or two in jail.
Fuck them all.

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Hahaha. Except I'm half crying. We had the best conversation about tablecloths and place settings and silverware.

Posted by: L, Elle at June 08, 2016 12:43 AM (6IPEM)

I don't even know how to respond to this.

Posted by: Blano at June 08, 2016 12:45 AM (lbcdD)

306222 I like ChemJeff also, but he has been on this Quixote quest of a hobby horse for so long it seems an automatic reflex for him to spew it all over again in every thread. So I am not going to interact with him, he's ignored.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 08, 2016 12:27 AM (RbRGC)

That's been the problem. I used to like the guy, but he's become a fanatical one-note Johnny this election cycle and it got beyond grating.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at June 08, 2016 12:29 AM (0mRoj)
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I can't agree. I hope he stick around or at least comes back after the election.

Posted by: iforgot at June 08, 2016 12:45 AM (5o5ek)

307Clearly Ace said he could get behind the fiat replacement of Trump (and was itching to do so) if it was a candidate who could beat Hillary, which is the only goal.

313
Might not be such a good idea. From what I've heard, historically, the gays/lesbians, bi-sexuals, and transsexuals don't get along at all. The whole unified GLBT acronym thing is a myth.
Posted by: junior at June 08, 2016 12:35 AM (+ULUe)

Yep - all those groups believe that their grievance(s) are the most important evar!

There was a short scene in the 90's movie PCU where several ppl of "oppressed" groups (blacks, gays, and women) briefly explained why *they* should go to the front of the line. Can't find the clip on YouTube though, .

PCU...damn, was that movie prophetic!

Posted by: Thrawn at June 08, 2016 12:47 AM (wQWv4)

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The Andrew Dice Clay school... Heh. Another triumph of the pervert's rights league: getting people to seriously consider homosexuality as a valid identity. If this is true, then trekkies, bikers, and food-court goths are valid identity groups too!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 08, 2016 12:47 AM (kP16F)

315
L. Elle, just be friends with him. Really, it's not going to end well otherwise.

316
That's why conservatism in general is dead. The overwhelming majority of this country doesn't want limited this, no to that, stop the free shit those.

It's almost painful to listen to Mark Levin sometimes because he still thinks it has a chance of a comeback in his lifetime.

Posted by: Blano at June 08, 2016 12:39 AM (lbcdD)

++++

The supposedly conservative party hasn't been acting very conservatively for quite some time. Why vote the conservative brand if they aren't going to walk the walk?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 08, 2016 12:47 AM (R+30W)

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Chemjeff, FWIW I've always liked having you here and reading of your nights at Fapplebees.

I didn't agree with a lot of your points on this election but I don't agree with a lot of other people either. I'm not one to make the political personal and I won't do it now either.

I don't come around the daytime threads much anymore, just don't have enough interest to get into futile pissing matches. I'm not going to change the world, I'm not going to change anyone's mind who is trying to change mine.

The day that everyone starts agreeing with each other is the day I'll leave out of sheer boredom.

Most long timers who don't come around anymore didn't leave in a huff or get banned, they just drifted away which is how most things like that happen on any blog or commentator site.

319
"Hahaha. Except I'm half crying. We had the best conversation about tablecloths and place settings and silverware."
-Posted by: L, Elle at June 08, 2016 12:43 AM (6IPEM)

*backs away slowly*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 08, 2016 12:48 AM (OQ9R7)

320There was a short scene in the 90's movie PCU where several ppl of "oppressed" groups (blacks, gays, and women) briefly explained why *they* should go to the front of the line

Yeah its at the party, that whole movie is hilarious back to back. A lot of the people who were in the movie didn't quite seem to understand the joke though. Piven for example. Very entertaining, great actor, but... man is he a head case.

329
You know, I'm changing about the cop shows too, and I believe it is they who have done the actual changing in the last couple of decades, seeing the public as enemies, rather than as friends, who are to be protected from the predators within.

I had a deputy out when someone attempted to steal a truck of mine a few years ago. I noticed he ran the tags on every vehicle around this place before he left, and ran all our names. He was looking for outstanding warrants and all that shit. And he snooped around, looking at everything carefully. He was looking for anything contraband showing.

Pissed the hell out of me. He would have arrested me in a second if he found an excuse. That was sort of when my conversion to the dark side was sort of complete. However, I despise BLM and side with the cops in a heartbeat over leftist vermin.

331The supposedly conservative party hasn't been acting very conservatively for quite some time. Why vote the conservative brand if they aren't going to walk the walk?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 08, 2016 12:47 AM (R+30W)

Totally agree. I'm done with them. Trump will be the last Republican liberal I vote for.

Posted by: Blano at June 08, 2016 12:52 AM (lbcdD)

332
>>> L. Elle, just be friends with him. Really, it's not going to end well otherwise.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 08, 2016
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That's what I've been trying to do. He is my absolute best friend in the whole wide world, and me, him. It's very hard to manage that , you know, when I let myself get stupid feelings involved and ignored giant warning signs that he might be gay.

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Cops aren't even bad compared to the other penny-ante mini-tyrants like the "compliance officers" that tell you that your fence is too short or your bushes need trimming and you have a week to do it or get fined $250 a day. Government is full of these people with lots of power based exclusively on judgment and virtually no appeal to anyone else.

I caught a guy and a gal from the State poking around my place many years ago. [After demolishing an old home and burning the remnants.]

They had hopped a fence with a bunch of tools, and were just getting ready to start searching a portion of the property with some metal detectors. [Looking for proof that items like wiring and such were left to burn, which they were not.]

When I walked over with a shotgun and told them they had 1 minute to get back in their car and back down the road before I filled them with shot they ran away. Without their tools.

Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2016 12:54 AM (lheeg)

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342 Cops aren't even bad compared to the other penny-ante mini-tyrants like the "compliance officers" that tell you that your fence is too short or your bushes need trimming and you have a week to do it or get fined $250 a day. Government is full of these people with lots of power based exclusively on judgment and virtually no appeal to anyone else.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2016 12:53 AM (39g3+)

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At no point did he say or even imply that he wanted them to replace Trump. He said straight out that if they did so, Hillary wins, which is his worst case scenario. Get it? He doesn't want that to happen. I know it was a lot of words, but... reading is fundamental.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2016 12:42 AM (39g3+)

++++

This quote is probably the most on point:Now, it may surprise you -- or not -- to know I'm not necessarily against any of this.

You used the word "fear" earlier. The thing he fears is not that they will replace Trump, but rather that they will replace Trump with someone who will lose. He wants them to replace Trump - because he claims that Trump will lose - with a winner. His choice as that winner: Tom Cotton.

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That's what I've been trying to do. He is my absolute best friend in the whole wide world, and me, him. It's very hard to manage that , you know, when I let myself get stupid feelings involved and ignored giant warning signs that he might be gay.

Posted by: L, Elle
****

I know how that is. I have fallen for a few women I'd been friends with for a while (yes I'm male).
Ultimately it is your life, tho.
I strongly urge you to think it through and try not to let your feelings make decisions for you.
The brain is supposed to do the thinking, not the heart. I have ignored that fact and paid dearly.

351338 >>> L. Elle, just be friends with him. Really, it's not going to end well otherwise.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 08, 2016
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That's what I've been trying to do. He is my absolute best friend in the whole wide world, and me, him. It's very hard to manage that , you know, when I let myself get stupid feelings involved and ignored giant warning signs that he might be gay.
Posted by: L, Elle at June 08, 2016 12:52 AM (6IPEM)

Posted by: Insomniac
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I not only told him to go fuck his mother, I actually told him that I don't even recognize his authority, so there is nothing for me to respect. And yes, he practically tripped over my lawnmower & gas can to get to my porch.
He especially didn't like me telling him to get a real job and reminding him that my taxes pay his exorbitant salary.
So, nine months later, I am on a first name basis with the City Attorney. And yes, she has been here to the house.

Posted by: Chi at June 08, 2016 12:58 AM (DoY1a)

355
>>you know, when I let myself get stupid feelings involved and ignored giant warning signs that he might be gay.

365
His choice as that winner: Tom Cotton.
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Who would placate the supposed 25% of the GOP who are upper-middle-class university types who won't vote for Trump; yet be anti-amnesty etc. enough to get many pro-Trumps voting for him.

He wanted to ride the Teacup Ride with Richard Simmons at Euro-Disney in nothing but sequin leg-warmers and a home-made tank-top?!?

DEAR GOD, WOMAN!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 08, 2016 01:01 AM (OQ9R7)

369
What really bites, is that the USA is/was, the last great hope on earth, the last refuge the place to be to get away from petty tyrants, murderous dictators and other hell-holes of every description.

Even if one has the means to get the hell out of Dodge, where then does one go to escape?

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334 You know, I'm changing about the cop shows too, and I believe it is they who have done the actual changing in the last couple of decades, seeing the public as enemies, rather than as friends, who are to be protected from the predators within.

I had a deputy out when someone attempted to steal a truck of mine a few years ago. I noticed he ran the tags on every vehicle around this place before he left, and ran all our names. He was looking for outstanding warrants and all that shit. And he snooped around, looking at everything carefully. He was looking for anything contraband showing.

Pissed the hell out of me. He would have arrested me in a second if he found an excuse. That was sort of when my conversion to the dark side was sort of complete. However, I despise BLM and side with the cops in a heartbeat over leftist vermin.

When I was growing up in LA, there was a saying: "Policemen, like coffee, come in five grades: Gentlemen, Police, Cops, Pigs, and Assholes....and in LA County, you're lucky to get grade 4."

But, then, I moved up to the University of Casual Sun-Bathing and the police force up there was outstanding -- you seldom encountered, or even heard about, less than grade 2. When I called the Niagara Falls Police Department about Joffen, they were very kind and diligent about finding him. I've had a run-in with the local police some decades before I lived here and found them to be intelligent and helpful.

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Publius @ 334
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I called the police last summer to report that someone stole my bicycle out of my front yard (in broad daylight).
They called back the next day - "really? You found d it already?!?"
"Huh? What? Uh, I'm just calling to tell you that you missed a court date, and there's a bench warrant for you."

He had no idea about the burglary on my property. The first thing they did after i filed the report was run my name & info.
Again, Fuck them all.

Posted by: Chi at June 08, 2016 01:05 AM (DoY1a)

380Even if one has the means to get the hell out of Dodge, where then does one go to escape?

382
Watching 48 hours I'm astounded at how many people they pull in just talk. they don't get a lawyer, they don't refuse to talk, they just sit and chat with the cops. I guess they think cops are retarded and they're so smart they can outwit them or something? Amazing.

The police are so upset when someone calls for a lawyer, like it almost never happens.

383
I recall in the late 70s, before AIDS, there was a surprising amount of promotion for bisexuality in surprising places, like Playboy. It seemed to be the solution for young hedonists who just wanted a lot more sex than the women they knew. I have to wonder who was really pushing the idea but I noticed years later that a lot of the then bisexual icons settle down into just calling themselves gay and stopped pretending they lusted after women once it was no longer necessary. If they were born a few years later I suspect they'd never have bothered with the pretense.

Posted by: Epobirs at June 08, 2016 01:07 AM (IdCqF)

384
For those who love Liberty, I suggest listening to almost everything that (former) Judge Andrew Napolitano has to say.

He says he'll bet a week's paycheck, his or Ace's, that the GOP will not under any circumstances at this stage, topple Trump for the nom.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 08, 2016 01:08 AM (ntObR)

386
>>> L, Elle and the election cycle should both get a do over
Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 08, 2016 01:04 AM (dULJN)
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That's what I think too!

Posted by: L, Elle at June 08, 2016 01:08 AM (6IPEM)

387
392 >>> L, Elle and the election cycle should both get a do over
Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 08, 2016 01:04 AM (dULJN)
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That's what I think too!
Posted by: L, Elle at June 08, 2016 01:08 AM (6IPEM)

389
I know Patterico has been #neverTrump for a while, but I didn't know he left the GOP. I just checked his site and I don't see anything there. Not on the front page at least.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 08, 2016 01:10 AM (R+30W)

390
I've been friends with a deputy sheriff here and run into cops a few times in my town and they've always been just great. I have been "pulled over" twice on my bike, but they were polite and decent to me.

Once it was late at night when I was on my way home from work (did I steal that bike?) and the other time some guy almost hit me in an alley and apparently yelled about it to a cop, who told me I was going the "wrong way" down the alley. When I asked him how to find out which way is the right way, he mumbled something about parked cars and then had to take a call.

I think the driver portrayed me as a maniac or something and found out I was just a guy on a bike. The driver was pulling out of a parking lot too fast and didn't check to see if the alley was clear...

Posted by: Insomniac
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I not only told him to go fuck his mother, I actually told him that I don't even recognize his authority, so there is nothing for me to respect. And yes, he practically tripped over my lawnmower & gas can to get to my porch.
He especially didn't like me telling him to get a real job and reminding him that my taxes pay his exorbitant salary.
So, nine months later, I am on a first name basis with the City Attorney. And yes, she has been here to the house.

Posted by: Chi at June 08, 2016 12:58 AM (DoY1a)

I think the later scene where he showed up on a bicycle cackling, "....and your little dog, too" while a tornado approached was when things really got weird.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 08, 2016 01:12 AM (EzgxV)

394He says he'll bet a week's paycheck, his or Ace's, that the GOP will not under any circumstances at this stage, topple Trump for the nom.

I don't think they will, either. I suspect even the stupid party knows they are looking at gravestones for the Republican Party if they pull anything.

Believe me, folks - that 15 minutea it takes the cop when he pulls you over for going 26 in a 25 zone? He is running your name & SSN looking for warrants or a reason - ANY reason to search/seize your vehicle.
Your teenage son ever get caught with a joint? Guess what? You will get to meet a K9 dog in about 15 minutes! Yay police!
Did I say Fuck Them All yet?

Posted by: Chi at June 08, 2016 01:12 AM (DoY1a)

396
Kojak, Kolchak and Banacek walk into a bar.
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And the bartender asks them if they want a stiff one?

A former GF dragged me to see it in SF (ON Market) ... yes, at the end, there was a lot of Audience Participation.

Posted by: Arbalest at June 08, 2016 01:02 AM (FlRtG)

What the hell does THAT mean?

Posted by: Blano at June 08, 2016 01:13 AM (lbcdD)

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I had never seen or even heard of Banacek somehow until MeTV recently. I loved it, of course. Could Hollywood even create a character like that now? I mean he's too testerone and balls and sees women as sex objects and all that icky shit.

I think I read George Peppard quit that role because he was going through a nasty divorce and didn't want to give his wife any more money, which he'd earn from continuing Banacek.

How bout a Horde Sourced writing project, where every helpful Moron and 'Ette collaborates and produces a brilliantly well-written Singles Ad for L,Elle ?

Yeah, I know the submissions will range from mild to wild, from Serious to Seamus, but I'm equally certain that the entries will be most entertaining.

And that there'll be enough gold in with the dross to truly flatter the lass, and help her write an ad, which, even if never published at those online predator watering holes, will give her a good, fresh and clean look at herself in the mirror which is Teh Horde.

All kidding aside, there's a bunch of truly fine folks who frequent the ONT, and the assembled wisdom here could damn near loft another Apollo 11.

publius: I had to look up the latest on this male bisexual crap. There have been studies that seem to indicate it doesn't exist. Men are either *physiologically* attracted to either women or men....

My only study of this matter is some scenes from "bisexual" porn to which I was exposed against my will, and from peeking between my fingers it looked to me like it was always two gay guys and a girl thrown in there, in whom the guys only feigned interest while waiting to get it on with each other.

Now, maybe that was just bad performances, but I suppose it reflected the target audience.

I have no intention of extending my study - because is all porn is bad and causes guilty-warts.

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I admit one of the things that keeps me in California: my town, Lakewood, seems to have pretty good cops.

I'm not kidding: A few years ago, I once *accidentally ran a red light* in front of an LA Sheriffs car here in town. Not only didn't I get a ticket... I didn't even get pulled over. Sure, the officer might simply have not noticed, but how often is that likely to happen?

It probably helps that we have a strong tax base thanks to there being a lot of thriving businesses in town, so the cops aren't on "revenue raising patrol" all the time. Not yet, anyway.

411
Banacek was always "impossible crime", and the clever Banacek, who is cocky as hell about it, always figure it out at the end, and does a grand reveal of how they done it.

One I particularly liked was a missing experimental car. It was being moved by rail. They loaded it up, and then when the train got to the destination, the car and the rail car were gone, just plucked from the otherwise intact train.

Another was a fancy experimental rocket engine just disappeared from the display case when the lights went out for just a few moments.

If this one fails, we need to figure out how to colonize Mars before the totalitarianism becomes absolute and freedom is just a memory.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 08, 2016 01:19 AM (J+mig)

413
411 I get calls after ten P.M.; which is strictly verboten to an insomniac
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 08, 2016 01:16 AM (OQ9R7)

Hmmm, calls after 10 are generally booty calls. So, you're saying you do not welcome booty calls. Good thing you pointed this out, so 'ettes on the prowl won't pester you.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 08, 2016 01:19 AM (bpTue)

414
What, old acquaintance! Could not all this flesh
Keep in a little life? Poor Chemjeff, farewell.
I could have spared a better man.
O, I should have a heavy miss of thee,
If I were much in love with vanity.
Death hath not struck so fat a deer today,
Though many dearer in this bloody fray.
Embowelled will I see thee by and by.
'Till then, in blood by Fapplebee lie.

Posted by: Jake Spear at June 08, 2016 01:20 AM (X4FeV)

415If this one fails, we need to figure out how to colonize Mars before the totalitarianism becomes absolute and freedom is just a memory.

You can call me after 10 Eastern, no problemo. And I'm totally straight.

Posted by: Blano at June 08, 2016 01:30 AM (lbcdD)

431
I, for one, wouldn't mind being pestered by a prowly 'ette or two.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 08, 2016 01:24 AM (J+mig)

Yeah same here. Bring it ladies.

Posted by: Blano at June 08, 2016 01:32 AM (lbcdD)

432
Now, what confounds me is the shemale/tranny shit. That is getting pretty big relatively speaking, and is in the "straight" side. Or is infecting it pretty good, if not fully "in" it.

How does that fit in this whole "do bisexual men" exist question? I say it's not gay, just sort of, well, things running amok. You know how a drug user has to get more and more and harder and harder to get the same high.

Well, somehow taking a girl and putting a dick on her is just a similiar extreme thing. It's still a female body (the ideal they're trying to simulate)....but with a dick.

434
>>> I get calls after ten P.M.; which is strictly verboten to an insomniac.
I can sleep five nights per week. If I get a phone call after ten, it had better be a Life or Death situation.
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You know, you never told me this. You only told me the one and only time we spoke to call you at a certain time and said I that phone call to call you anytime. The second time I called you, how do you know it wasn't a life or death situation? You never gave me the chance to say.

So go admire your pile of harshly worded emails to other ettes. Be proud rereading them. You're an unforgiving prick.

Don't worry. I have no contact info for you so you don't need to entertain stalker fantasies.

Posted by: L, Elle at June 08, 2016 01:33 AM (6IPEM)

435437 I, for one, wouldn't mind being pestered by a prowly 'ette or two.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 08, 2016 01:24 AM (J+mig)

Ah. Well. All "G-Rated" ... it was mostly at the final number, just before the end ... absolutely gushed over the performance, stood, applauded, etc. Disney has their Princesses, the Friends of Dorothy have Babs, Liza, Lucy, Dorothy, and now Sophie.

446442 Megan Fox does nothing for me. Not very many of these young chicks these days do.

I just figured a dog like her slept her way to stardom.

Posted by: Blano at June 08, 2016 01:40 AM (lbcdD)

It certainly wasn't due to acting ability. And based on her career she's probably not that good in the sack either.

Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2016 01:42 AM (bMG0w)

447
438
Now, what confounds me is the shemale/tranny shit. That is getting
pretty big relatively speaking, and is in the "straight" side. Or is
infecting it pretty good, if not fully "in" it.

How does that
fit in this whole "do bisexual men" exist question? I say it's not gay,
just sort of, well, things running amok. You know how a drug user has to
get more and more and harder and harder to get the same high.

Well, somehow taking a girl and putting a dick on her is just a similiar
extreme thing. It's still a female body (the ideal they're trying to
simulate)....but with a dick.

448
I owned a tanning salon for sixteen years. Temptation was everywhere. My female employees had to tell me stuff like, "Don't you know that she likes you?"

It was grade-school innocence and I didn't much want to hear it because I wanted to provide a service. I wasn't there to "apply lotion". I was there to make sure that the bulbs were replaced and the place was clean, so as to earn a profit.

There were also OBVIOUS temptations, like the strip-club down the street. I'd gotten "various offers" to use the powerful stand-up unit, (not a euphemism), for free.

I wasn't nearly in touch with Jesus Christ back then, as I am now. I simply needed to earn a profit and "free" wasn't in my vocabulary.

I am tempted by words on a page and the clarity, boldness and sweetness of the 'Ettes; Clearly.

At Forty-Five years of age, however, I am driven by sleep and selfish motivation.

I ain't a prize.

If I couldn't be tempted and driven to a diversion of motivation in my Twenties, the lessening of the chance has been cleft en twain by my Forties.

...so there's that.

I don't mean to be a jerk. I simply say what I mean and mean what I say.

Don't Call After Ten.

I cherish my sleep!!!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 08, 2016 01:43 AM (OQ9R7)

449
I read where a guy had his thumb cut off and mangled beyond repair. They actually cut off one of his big toes and attached it to his hand for a thumb. It works. And you can do without a big toe better than you can do without a thumb. Your hand is pretty useless without it.

451
L @ 434
I like you - an awful lot. A whole lot, dammit.
Unless you know what kind of calls get made in the middle of the night, maybe slow your roll a bit.
Slap is among the best of the best here. I'll defend him 'til the day I get banned. He didn't deserve that.

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449 I read where a guy had his thumb cut off and mangled beyond repair. They actually cut off one of his big toes and attached it to his hand for a thumb. It works. And you can do without a big toe better than you can do without a thumb. Your hand is pretty useless without it.
Posted by: publius
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Did this person happen to be an International Gran Prix Champion racing 250 class motorcycles? With the initials RR?
At dinner, saying "Randy, get your feet off the bread!" never got old - even to him.
BTW, you need your big toe to balance as you walk, but riding was more important than walking to him.

And, for Bebes, my sister's thumbs look like miniature toes! She was always so self conscious about it. I was the Jerk little brother that never let her live it down...

Posted by: Chi at June 08, 2016 01:50 AM (DoY1a)

461
Argh. "Satan" was supposed to be italic, bold, and underscore, not bold, underscore, and strikethrough. Signs it's getting late for me.

462
Bah, my only day off of the week has been moved from Friday to Wednesday. That day is usually spent catching up on all the stuff I didn't get to the other 6 days. Plus my pastor friend wants me to come to church tomorrow night too.

Maybe someday I can figure out how to use it for some kind of social life. Until then, it is what it is. What I need is a different job, period.

466
>>> Posted by: Chi at June 08, 2016 01:44 AM (DoY1a
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Well that's so nice of you to defend your friend and not me, Chi. He never said don't call me after 10 pm and did say that he is an insomniac and call me anytime. So I called him after 10 figuring he would be awake bc insomniac. Then I get his strongly worded email the next day like I ruined his life or something and was written by a lawyer. Offering forgiveness for me like I committed some kind of mortal sin or something for calling an insomniac after 10pm.

I did nothing wrong. Apologized profusely for unintentionly disturbing his precious sleep which he said he forgave me for. Here he is beating me over the head with this supposed transgression and bragging about how many other ettes he has had to get in line for disturbing his sleep.

468
I've noticed a certain group of people who seem to have a genetic syndrome of some sort. Beside mild retardation, the other notable signs are this odd sort of bristly hair and strange hands that look like they weren't quite sure about this opposable thumb business. After this one kid in school I've noticed this an about a dozen other people I've encountered over my life.

Posted by: Epobirs at June 08, 2016 01:57 AM (IdCqF)

469Two pointed shovels, a landscaper's bar and a grub axe!
Posted by: garrett
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All you're missing is a bag of lime...

Don't worry. I have no contact info for you so you don't need to entertain stalker fantasies."
-Posted by: L, Elle at June 08, 2016 01:33 AM (6IPEM)

I couldn't email you because I did exactly what you said to do. I deleted all of my back-channel emails from you.

I have NO "fantasies" about anything and I'm so sorry that I might have left anything that may have led you to even go down that road.

I thought I had been very forgiving and cordial to you over these months. We've been very cordial to one-another and I'd like to keep it that way.

I didn't even bring-up your nic when I talked about people calling me after midnight. You are not the only one, you know.

...you "outed" yourself.

I really like you because of your relentlessness in abortion causes and your tenacity. Your insistence of the implementation of "The Pet Thread" is an essential cornerstone of a weekend.

I'm not going to tell you how you feel. That would be an egotistical and idiot move on my behalf.

I only hope that you feel better, soon.

I'll continue to pray for you because I have no other recourse.

You're NOT an idiot. You're a righteous warrior in God's name with a cause.

Bless you, darlin'. You are NOT "an 'Ette Mistake".

...you are so much more.

-Please Know This.

-Marc

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 08, 2016 01:59 AM (OQ9R7)

471
So, I took my car in to be smogged today, and the smog guy says, "your muffler doesn't work right, I couldn't do the test."

Fixing exhaust systems is right up my alley -- you're trying to get rid of stuff anyway, so WGAS if it leaks? The only problem is that it's UNDER the car. When I move to somewhere civilized, I'm gonna have a hoist so that I can move cars to where it's convenient to work on them. I watched a Youtube video of a guy replacing the rear-most stage, and noticed that -- despite his being a young guy -- there were parts where he was panting. Mind you, it seemed straightforward and well-documented, but he was winded getting himself into the right spot with the right tools.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 08, 2016 02:02 AM (EzgxV)

472
Haha. Slapweasel. It's no surprise that you're alone and bitter and that I'm in love with a bi/gay guy.

Posted by: L, Elle at June 08, 2016 02:04 AM (6IPEM)

473
If you move to a civilized place you shouldn't have to get your car inspected.

Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2016 02:04 AM (bMG0w)

474
I apologize, L, Elle. I never told you not to call after ten P.M. That is true. Calling someone after Midnight when they haven't posted all day is another deal, entirely.

Perhaps you didn't know that I was on the East Coast.

I'd never brought it up before and I didn't mention you in my original post.

479
Maet - if jet-lag has you still here - that's quite interesting about FS Reloading, Lee, and the Pictor folks.

I'm an FS Reloading/Lee customer as well (a "red" reloading bench - with some dashes of green - from your neighborhood, as well). Sorry to hear about the health problems of the FS owner.

Think I got it from Titan - maybe FS - a few months ago ..... the new Auto-Drum powder measure from Lee. Wow. For ball/flake/"dust" (as I call Silhouette) powders, it's ridiculously consistent, and so easy to use. Just did some 9mm yesterday. Checked maybe 10-12 throws out of 50. To my eye, *exactly* the same on my RCBS 505 scale.

Speaking of which - and what in my experience has been an industry-wide experience - I bought the 505 used, along with most of my first (still current) set-up. It seemed balky. I emailed RCBS up in your neck of the woods - they said end it in.

A week later, a brand-new one shows up, no charge.

I have never, in all my consumer experiences, seen the sort of customer service and support I have found with reloading, and firearms in general. Lee is terrific, as you may know, with support and advice for their gear. Lee has also taken care of many things - from polishing up a 30 carbine die, to replacing decapping pins - for no charge, and with a smile.

Chatted online once with a tech at Brownell's - completely resolved my issue (which didn't even involve anything they sold me).

Have never seen a sector like reloading/firearms for customer support.

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473 If you move to a civilized place you shouldn't have to get your car inspected.

Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2016 02:04 AM (bMG0w)

An excellent observation!!!! But I'd still want to work on my car MYSELF, without a version of Chi's anal bureaucrat second-guessing me -- which means a lift. It'd be nice to take my Honda up just so I could clean the brake dust off of all four rims at the same time.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 08, 2016 02:10 AM (EzgxV)

482Have never seen a sector like reloading/firearms for customer support.

Your chariot requires the use of an exhaust gas analyzer for its smog inspection. If there is a leak in your exhaust, the analyzer will detect it (too much O2) and fail the inspection. The fix is to fix the leak.

Posted by: Arbalest at June 08, 2016 02:16 AM (FlRtG)

485
Have never seen a sector like reloading/firearms for customer support.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 08, 2016 02:10 AM (QDnY+)

RAH: "An armed society is a polite society." Was recently at a gun show waiting my turn for attention while a transaction took place. The customer thanked the vendor, the vendor thanked the customer, and they shook hands with smiles. Afterward, the vendor mused about how this never happened anywhere outside -- and I brought up the Heinlein quote. Nicest, friendliest, most helpful folks you'd ever want to know.....totally puts the lie to the leftist propaganda.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 08, 2016 02:16 AM (EzgxV)

486
What the fuck happened in CA? Polls showed a tied race, Hillary is winning by 20%. But yeah, polls are totes accurate and stuff.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 11:29 PM (0LHZx)

"It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes." I think Stalin said that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 08, 2016 02:16 AM (GSdpU)

487
many moons ago i ran a yellow light in the big city then got pulled over. a year or so later i found out i had a bench warrant for failure to appear, even though i never received a summons in the mail. luckily my pop appeared for me, told my story and the judge dismissed. good old pop.

Posted by: concrete girl at June 08, 2016 02:16 AM (ceWrl)

488
We got rid of vehicle inspections here in SC a few years ago, many maybe the way time is flying. Note this was not pollution control inspection, just general "in working order" inspection.

Various garages and mechanics would do it, but they were mandated by the state in what they could charge, and it wasn't enough. So it ended up being wink and nod. You'd go pay a guy the $3 or whatever it is, and he'd put a new sticker on your vehicle, and the state got a cut of even that.

Now, if someone they didn't know came up, they'd go through the motions or say come back later (it could be an inspector, and you were required to do inspections if you signed up).

It was nothing but a racket. Not for the mechanics, really, but for the state. They were helping you. You had to have the sticker, and they'd give you one, for the fee.

They finally ditched, to everyone's relief, with a few "safety Nazis" complaining.

490
"Join chemjeff, Seamus, and me over here at the "leaving the blog" table. We've got a pitcher of beer and a basket of peanuts to finish off. We're also all idiots. Or is that Morons?"
-Posted by: mindful webworker has had one too many, plainly at June 08, 2016 02:10 AM (dDUXP)

Your chariot requires the use of an exhaust gas analyzer for its smog inspection. If there is a leak in your exhaust, the analyzer will detect it (too much O2) and fail the inspection. The fix is to fix the leak.

Posted by: Arbalest at June 08, 2016 02:16 AM (FlRtG)

Yeah, I got that. And, like I said, bolting on pipe to go from the engine to outside is hardly rocket science. It's the "crawling around on the ground instead of hoisting the car 5 feet in the air" part that has me irritated.

I don't hate you. I just don't like you anymore."
-Posted by: L, Elle at June 08, 2016 02:17 AM (6IPEM)

The first part was going to happen, anyways. This is Cleveland.

The second part saddens me.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 08, 2016 02:20 AM (OQ9R7)

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L,elle,
Goddammit, I Love you. Know that.
If someone publicly called you an unforgiving bitch, I would defend you - in much harsher terms - as well.
I consider you BOTH my friend. If you don't feel the same way, well...

I am sorry that you are upset, and that things worked out this way. I hope it's true that time heals all wounds.

But I have made my contact info public right fucking here on many occasions, and it has resulted in many things - great friendships, actual love, pain and even absolute misery. Basically, Life.
I know what after hour calls can be like.

I hope tomorrow morning will bring a different perspective. I hope you don't hate me too for voicing my stupid opinion. This place has been "home" for more than a decade to me, and I've watched it change slowly, then lately, so fast that I want to leave.
Maybe I should just take a break before I piss off one more Moron/ette that matters to me?

You have my email. Use it if you want to - I will freely give you my phone # to use 24/7 with no exceptions. I wish you nothing g but the best.

499486 What the fuck happened in CA? Polls showed a tied race, Hillary is winning by 20%. But yeah, polls are totes accurate and stuff.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 11:29 PM (0LHZx)

"It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes." I think Stalin said that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 08, 2016 02:16 AM (GSdpU)

Polls are getting to be: "we asked 1000 people if they'd vote for Clinton or Trump in the general election -- we got 10 Trump and 12 Clinton, 314 people walked past pretending not to see us, 611 people said, "FUCK OFF!!!!", 37 people tried to steal our equipment, 8 people assaulted one-or-more of our staff, 6 people just ran, and two people had a medical emergency and left in an ambulance."

501
>>>>> Posted by: Chi at June 08, 2016 02:21 AM (DoY1a)
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What nice sentiments. You're great at that. How many emails have I sent you? How many have you bothered to reply to? Maybe 1 or 2 at most.

I actually have real friends here at the blog and IRL who care about me enough to drop everything to take a call or respond to an email or text message from me. You're not one of them. Neither is Slapweasel. So you two go be happy being alone together. I am fine and have people surrounding me that love me and pray fore constantly. I don't need pity or fake prayers.

503
Seems like a bunch of "love" going around here......you people drunk?

Posted by: BignJames at June 08, 2016 02:28 AM (HtUkt)

504
L, Slapweasel -- you are both quite dear to me, and it hurts me that you have caused each other such pain. For purely selfish, silly reasons, I'd prefer to keep you both in a category of "good peeps" -- without maintaining the infrastructure to keep track of various flavors of peep who are on the outs with each other. I hope you can reconcile.....but it's really up to the two of you.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 08, 2016 02:32 AM (EzgxV)

505501 >>>>> Posted by: Chi at June 08, 2016 02:21 AM (DoY1a)
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What nice sentiments. You're great at that. How many emails have I sent you? How many have you bothered to reply to? Maybe 1 or 2 at most.

I actually have real friends here at the blog and IRL who care about me enough to drop everything to take a call or respond to an email or text message from me. You're not one of them. Neither is Slapweasel. So you two go be happy being alone together. I am fine and have people surrounding me that love me and pray fore constantly. I don't need pity or fake prayers.

Posted by: L, Elle at June 08, 2016 02:27 AM (6IPEM)

FWIW, he's crap on replying to my emails as well. I figured it was because "phone".

Posted by: cthulhu at June 08, 2016 02:35 AM (EzgxV)

506
503 Seems like a bunch of "love" going around here......you people drunk?

Posted by: BignJames at June 08, 2016 02:28 AM (HtUkt)

You're asking if folks on the ONT are drunk?!?!? Are you new here?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 08, 2016 02:36 AM (EzgxV)

507
Bless those boys stepping out into the void in the dark of night. I hope that he took his finger off of the trigger of that Thompson before he dropped.

Posted by: goon at June 08, 2016 02:37 AM (WCaSy)

508
>>> Posted by: cthulhu at June 08, 2016 02:32 AM (EzgxV)
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I haven't caused him any pain other than disturbing his precious sleep one night bc he's a big fucking baby. I'm an insomniac too. If anyone calls me in the middle of the night, I take the call no matter what figuring it is probably an emergency. I don't tell the caller to fuck off immediately and send them a strongly worded email in the morning bc I'm not that much of an asshole.

Posted by: L, Elle at June 08, 2016 02:37 AM (6IPEM)

509
I'm sorry you feel that way, L,elle.
Seems like I've managed to fuck up another friendship, so I'll quit while I'm behind.
If anyone knows where chemjeff ends up, let me know.

Fare thee well, horde.

Posted by: Chi, née Shredded Chi at June 08, 2016 02:42 AM (DoY1a)

510
508 >>> Posted by: cthulhu at June 08, 2016 02:32 AM (EzgxV)
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I haven't caused him any pain other than disturbing his precious sleep one night bc he's a big fucking baby. I'm an insomniac too. If anyone calls me in the middle of the night, I take the call no matter what figuring it is probably an emergency. I don't tell the caller to fuck off immediately and send them a strongly worded email in the morning bc I'm not that much of an asshole.

Posted by: L, Elle at June 08, 2016 02:37 AM (6IPEM)

It seems that he's feeling the pain of repentance today. It's not me, I wasn't around, I don't know the particulars.....

What are the elements, again? Confession, Repentance, Contrition....?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 08, 2016 02:43 AM (EzgxV)

511
So now the leading candidate for the new Senator from CA is a person who as AG thought it was perfectly alright to threaten prosecution for having the wrong opinion on climate change. It's not like we have a constitutional guarantee to the right to hold and state aloud unpopular opinions or anything.

Today was one of those days so bad when I woke up that I only left my bed and trying to sleep throughout to visit the toilet. If I had been mentally well enough to go to the local polling place, I have no idea what I would have done other than slate vote a few Republicans on the local level. Everything above that just contributes to the general feeling of living in a nightmare.

I'm reminded of the passage from Theodore Dalrymple that propaganda in totalitarian regimes isn't intended to convince but rather to humiliate and make that much more difficult to resist. It seems we've reached that stage here, where you risk your livelihood by saying aloud you don't think a boy should be competing as a girl just because he wants to be one.

Posted by: Epobirs at June 08, 2016 02:46 AM (IdCqF)

512
He doesn't speak for me, Ma'am. I can't believe this has gotten this far.

I sincerely and absolutely apologize for not telling you that I live on the East Coast and I don't accept phone calls after ten P.M.

I was negligent.

You were not informed of my situation.

-Again. I did not "out" you. You made it clear to everyone that you were one of the 'Ettes that had called me.

-I said that I'd continue to "Fake-Pray" for you and your causes, because I fake-pray and stuff.

-I don't need anyone else to defend me because you and I know what happened. I was curt on the phone because you continued to 'one-ring' me until I woke-up.

-My Grandfather was dying, less than one mile away, at the time. I THOUGHT I WAS ANSWERING AN "EMT" CALL. I am NOT an EMT, but I am trained.

-My follow-up email said what I meant and I meant what I said. You were very apologetic and I accepted your apology, whole-heartedly.

I even asked God for you to continue upon your path, as you were weary and unsure of the results of your efforts.

I meant that.

You have smeared me, personally, on this blog and it is I who should be in an effort to forgive you, at this point.

516
511 So now the leading candidate for the new Senator from CA is a person who as AG thought it was perfectly alright to threaten prosecution for having the wrong opinion on climate change. It's not like we have a constitutional guarantee to the right to hold and state aloud unpopular opinions or anything.

Today was one of those days so bad when I woke up that I only left my bed and trying to sleep throughout to visit the toilet. If I had been mentally well enough to go to the local polling place, I have no idea what I would have done other than slate vote a few Republicans on the local level. Everything above that just contributes to the general feeling of living in a nightmare.

I'm reminded of the passage from Theodore Dalrymple that propaganda in totalitarian regimes isn't intended to convince but rather to humiliate and make that much more difficult to resist. It seems we've reached that stage here, where you risk your livelihood by saying aloud you don't think a boy should be competing as a girl just because he wants to be one.

Posted by: Epobirs at June 08, 2016 02:46 AM (IdCqF)

Leave.

Every fiber of my being cries out to do so, but I stay for the fiancee. Go. Save yourself.

521
No means to do so. I'm pretty much stuck where I am. With my intermittent functionality and employment, I'm dependent on my family's forbearance to survive.

I don't try to make any long term plans. I'm increasingly convinced that a very a very ugly time is approaching sometime in the next decade or so. Somewhere in the world the financial patches will fail and it won't be contained to that country. This will lead to a lot of conflicts as a lot of desperate people find themselves in a broken world where their money is meaningless numbers and kindling. The people who've brought us to this point not only cannot stop it, they want it. What better time to cull the herd and remake the world as think it should be?

There was a time when I would have laughed at someone proposing such but at some point the choices of the elites stop looking like stupidity piled on top of stupidity and begin to seem more like a plan.

Posted by: Epobirs at June 08, 2016 03:01 AM (IdCqF)

522
>>> -Again. I did not "out" you. You made it clear to everyone that you were one of the 'Ettes that had called me
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Do you actually remember the conversation around that at all? YOU offered for me to call you like there was no background to that at all. That is why I mentioned the past single conversation.

I didn't know about your own personal situation with your grandfather bc you never told me that was going on in any way. I am sincerely sorry for causing you distress by calling you late when that was going on. I am sorry that I added to your distress.

As for this part:
"You have smeared me, personally, on this blog and it is I who should be in an effort to forgive you, at this point. "

No. You're an unforgiving prick. You're not capable of it so I wont ask you to forgive whatever imagined sin I have committed against you. Get over yourself.

How have I smeared you personally exactly? Please tell me.

Posted by: L, Elle at June 08, 2016 03:03 AM (6IPEM)

523
Fixing exhaust systems is right up my alley -- you're trying to get rid of stuff anyway, so WGAS if it leaks? The only problem is that it's UNDER the car. When I move to somewhere civilized, I'm gonna have a hoist so that I can move cars to where it's convenient to work on them. I watched a Youtube video of a guy replacing the rear-most stage, and noticed that -- despite his being a young guy -- there were parts where he was panting. Mind you, it seemed straightforward and well-documented, but he was winded getting himself into the right spot with the right tools.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 08, 2016 02:02 AM (EzgxV)

Yeah, as you get older, the crawling on the ground, having dirt fall in your eyes thing gets old. I just made a deal this evening to buy a 9000 pound scissor lift for $600. Two long ramps you drive onto, and the lift raises the ramps to about 5.5 feet, giving one standing headroom under the middle of the vehicle. It lacks a hydraulic power pack, but those are easily obtained. I will probably set it up to use outside when the weather is fine.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 08, 2016 03:10 AM (GSdpU)

524
I don't remember who it was, just reading an article about replacing a thumb with the big toe. I don't have any idea about how rare this is, and how many like that are out there.

I met a guy a few months ago here in Alberta who had it done. His hand was quite functional. He was smoking a cigarette with that hand, and could hold it between his toe-thumb and forefinger perfectly well.

526
I have found the "Macro-Agression" email that you spoke of earlier:

I wrote:

"You woke me up and scared the shit out of me when I was getting some needed
sleep. What were you thinking? Don't call again."
-Marc

"P.S.: I forgive you and let this not weigh heavy on your soul. Might God continue to find you; and find you well. I wish you no ill-will, but a "line"
has been crossed and it shall go no further.

Please understand and respect my stance as I pray for you and your continued endeavors.

I will make no more mention of this anywhere, at any time. A lapse in reason is not even a sin and we ALL suffer from the Human Condition. I am not here to shame you. I was put on this earth to love my fellow man.

I pray that your troubles cease and you find peace..."

-Marc

P.S.II: "I ALWAYS have insomnia. That's what makes sleep such a blessing!"

That is the exact email I sent, Ma'am. I had to dig through shit to find that, but it is Word-for-Word what I sent.

If anyone finds that anything more than "forward", please let me know.

528
Yeah, I got that. And, like I said, bolting on pipe to go from the engine to outside is hardly rocket science. It's the "crawling around on the ground instead of hoisting the car 5 feet in the air" part that has me irritated.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 08, 2016 02:19 AM (EzgxV)

The "bolting on" part is easy, although a lot of places simply weld the joints now. It's the unbolting of rusted joints, in an effort to save one or both parts, that is a PITA.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 08, 2016 03:19 AM (GSdpU)

529
L, Slapweasel -- this is some awful nightmare. I hold you both in such high esteem. Please make it stop.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 08, 2016 03:20 AM (EzgxV)

530
You also promised me that everything I said to you was confidential. Yet here you are, Marc, posting all of our private correspondence on a public blog. All of which you said you deleted for my sake (you said that earlier tonight btw). But you actually saved it and are now posting it to hurt me.

You're such stand up guy. Keep hurting me.

Posted by: L, Elle at June 08, 2016 03:21 AM (6IPEM)

531
528 Yeah, I got that. And, like I said, bolting on pipe to go from the engine to outside is hardly rocket science. It's the "crawling around on the ground instead of hoisting the car 5 feet in the air" part that has me irritated.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 08, 2016 02:19 AM (EzgxV)

The "bolting on" part is easy, although a lot of places simply weld the joints now. It's the unbolting of rusted joints, in an effort to save one or both parts, that is a PITA.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 08, 2016 03:19 AM (GSdpU)

Did some videos earlier today -- there's a lot of original factory studs/nuts that gets replaced by bolts/nuts the first time there's a problem. Which leaves the option of just cutting the bolt and replacing.

I hate an argument that goes, 'I know many nice illegals', just as I hate the argument, 'I know many nice muslims'. That's not the point of immigration laws! We are either a Nation of Laws or we are not. If we are not, then everyone should quit paying federal income taxes.

That last point brings me to sanctuary cities. I so wish some city would pass a law that they are now a sanctuary city, and all residents are exempt from Federal income taxes. No different than granting illegals a safe space in their city, right? Both violate Federal law. But I'd bet the government would view those two 'sanctuaries' in quite a different manner, with quite a different response.

546
Did some videos earlier today -- there's a lot of original factory studs/nuts that gets replaced by bolts/nuts the first time there's a problem. Which leaves the option of just cutting the bolt and replacing.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 08, 2016 03:23 AM (EzgxV)

Sounds so simple, but... I went through that on my '97 Suburban. Big-ass flange, midway down the car, two 2.5" pipes, 3 stainless-steel studs. Gasket was blown out. One stud had cracked off. The other two twisted off when I tried to undo the nuts. Studs had splined shanks, and were tightly pressed into the flange. Location of frame crossmembers precluded getting a drill in there to drill them out. And you cannot cut readily cut stainless steel with a cutting torch. You melt a little bit, and blow it away with a jet of oxygen. Rinse and repeat, a dozen times. Then use a hammer and a long, long punch to drive out the husk of the stud.

And then I found the replacement gasket I'd ordered was the wrong size. Eventually I discovered that although the truck is a '97, the exhaust system was the same as '98 models. Mid-year change.

And I had it on a hoist. Still a massive PITA.

And there is way too much drama in here tonight. Three people, all of whom I respect, having hissy fits with each other. Please! Drop it down a cog.

From this recent exchange, we don't know your name -- we know his is Marc. We don't know your problem -- we know his are insomnia, irritability, and his grandfather. We don't know your location -- his is Cleveland. We don't know your history -- we know he ran tanning salons.

How can he be humiliating you when he has disclosed nothing of substance about you while disclosing so much about himself? All that he has disclosed about you is that you had his phone number, you called after hours, and he spoke harshly to you -- for which, he has apologized.

Yes, you can call him a prick for having overreacted. Yes you can have grievances -- but I'm finding scant evidence to support "For that single transgression, he is hellbent on humiliating me. I alologized profusely. That wasn't enough. So here he is again demanding another pound of flesh."

Posted by: cthulhu at June 08, 2016 03:42 AM (EzgxV)

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I had to dig for that email, you idiot. I had to hope to find "Deleted Emails, sent"...etc.

Turns-out Time-Warner Cable was easier to dig into that I thought.

I'm done with you.

I'll forgive you at a later date, but certainly not tonight.

I can apologize no more. I can offer no more proof of what I said, meant and promised.

Go to Hell.

-Your Friendly Neighborhood Slapweasel

P.S.: THE ORIGINAL POST WASN'T ABOUT YOU.

"#257 "Sigh. That's what I think too.
I'm in love with a gay guy.
* pats myself on the back *"
-Posted by: L, Elle at June 08, 2016 12:27 AM (6IPEM)"

"L, Elle... I'd tell you to call me, but you know what happens when I hand out my phone # to Ettes.
East Coast after ten P.M. is strictly forbidden."
-Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 08, 2016 01:11 AM (OQ9R7)

That was a "cold post". It didn't "call you out", even though you thought it did.

It could have meant that we've talked about late calls and we've agreed that they are lame.

You took it personally and told everyone that I gave you undue shit through the email.

"L, Elle... I'd tell you to call me, but you know what happens when I hand out my phone # to Ettes.
East Coast after ten P.M. is strictly forbidden."
-Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 08, 2016 01:11 AM (OQ9R7)

That was a "cold post". It didn't "call you out", even though you thought it did.

It could have meant that we've talked about late calls and we've agreed that they are lame.

You took it personally and told everyone that I gave you undue shit through the email.

(I posted it, through much perusal.)

You told everyone that my prayers were "false" and "insincere".

Knock it off, lady.

Yeah, I don't much like you anymore, either.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 08, 2016 03:46 AM (OQ9R7)

I'm going to put this out there.....this post didn't help. You were better off to have gone to sleep.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 08, 2016 03:48 AM (EzgxV)

553
Holy SHIT! I wouldn't even offer this pound of flesh to My Own Mother!

556
>>> I'll forgive you at a later date, but certainly not tonight.
----
Ha ha ha. You fake fucking Jesus. I'll be waiting for your supposed forgiveness. As if it will ever come.

Posted by: L, Elle at June 08, 2016 03:52 AM (6IPEM)

557
I could only say "I'm sorry" so many times. She wants to crush my dick into the dirt?

...so be it.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 08, 2016 03:53 AM (OQ9R7)

558
Well, just poured me a rum and Coke, and used my 1939 San Francisco Worlds Fair icepick to chip some cubes free from the bag in the freezer.

Now, how would it happen that a Peon in Alberta has an icepick made to be sold as a souvenir for a fair nearly 80 years ago? The answer is "overtaken by technology". They made a metric fuckton of those icepicks, because, back in the day, "everybody" used an actual icebox to keep their food cool, and an icepick was a standard tool for the kitchen drawer. But in 1939, electric refrigerators, which had been around for close to 2 decades, finally achieved almost complete market penetration, and darned near nobody needed icepicks anymore.

So case after case of the darned things showed up in surplus markets and flea markets for decades thereafter, which is where the friend who gave me mine got his.

No -- a "at least he protected your information" callout from a guy who's been dealing with cybersecurity all fuckin' year. Had he asked me in advance, I would have weighed-in against sharing the information he did......but I couldn't help but notice that he protected her privacy while she was accusing him of "hellbent on humiliating me". "Humiliation" is a personal, private contact -- "hellbent" implies recklessness.....and yet no private information was disclosed.

581
The Pirates won a doubleheader against the Mets yesterday and the Penguins are up 3-1 on SJ for the Stanley Cup. Its good too be a Pittsburgh sports fan today.

I see Frank Deford is desperately clinging to relevancy. Sorry Frank, that train left for you. Here's a few bottles of Thunderbird. Now go find an alley and go out like a post modern man. Curled up in a ball, weeping among strewn bottles of cheap wine.

583
Ah yes, way back in the days when you would come across a movie and judge whether to stay with it by how long it was to the nude scene or some other aspect that was the only reason to ever watch it again. Kids today don't know how rough we had it.

Posted by: Epobirs at June 08, 2016 04:16 AM (IdCqF)

584
Last I read, YOU demanded another apology from me.
Bc I wronged you somehow again. You're fucking ridiculous. Like calling someone late at night is a sin somehow.

Please translate in Aramaic what the time zones are for Jesus people so I don't ever transgress against your religion and break commandments.

587
Ah yes, way back in the days when you would come across a movie and judge whether to stay with it by how long it was to the nude scene or some other aspect that was the only reason to ever watch it again. Kids today don't know how rough we had it.

Posted by: Epobirs at June 08, 2016 04:16 AM (IdCqF)

And just how long it took to fast-forward a VHS tape. (Seeing as you had to stop and check every so often.)

And adroitly cutting-away to another subject.....after the jetlag, will the ONT start settling into 10:00 pm Eastern? Out here on the West Coast, I build my dinner plans around it -- and the lack of predictability directly leads to a lack of predictability of my dinner menu.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 08, 2016 04:18 AM (EzgxV)

589
Deford suffered through some disease with his child that I think ruined him.

597
Deford suffered through some disease with his child that I think ruined him.

He's been weird ever since. Or maybe he just always was.

Posted by: eleven at June 08, 2016 04:20 AM (qUNWi)

His daughter....cystic fibrosis, I think....best thing he ever wrote.

Posted by: BignJames at June 08, 2016 04:24 AM (HtUkt)

598
Well, I am going to call it a night, too. My wish is for everyone here who has experienced frustration tonight to awaken next morning to a sunny day.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 08, 2016 04:25 AM (GSdpU)

599583 Ah yes, way back in the days when you would come across a movie and judge whether to stay with it by how long it was to the nude scene or some other aspect that was the only reason to ever watch it again. Kids today don't know how rough we had it.
Posted by: Epobirs at June 08, 2016 04:16 AM (IdCqF)

Luxury. We only had paintings.

Posted by: Nude scene fans in the 19th century at June 08, 2016 04:25 AM (sdi6R)

Posted by: Nude scene fans in the 19th century at June 08, 2016 04:25 AM (sdi6R)

At least the painting didn't get all static and unwatchable because everyone kept pausing and rewinding Phoebe Cates getting out of the swimming pool.

Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2016 04:28 AM (bMG0w)

603599 583 Ah yes, way back in the days when you would come across a movie and judge whether to stay with it by how long it was to the nude scene or some other aspect that was the only reason to ever watch it again. Kids today don't know how rough we had it.
Posted by: Epobirs at June 08, 2016 04:16 AM (IdCqF)

Luxury. We only had paintings.

Posted by: Nude scene fans in the 19th century at June 08, 2016 04:25 AM (sdi6R)

Don't forget sculpture!!!!

Posted by: sticky marble at June 08, 2016 04:30 AM (EzgxV)

604The Pirates won a doubleheader against the Mets yesterday and the Penguins are up 3-1 on SJ for the Stanley Cup. Its good too be a Pittsburgh sports fan today.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 08, 2016 04:15 AM (B7LSu)

This Rangers fan is pulling for the Pens. One more Pittsburgh win and I come in first place in a hockey playoff pool, to the tune of $1330. Should the Sharks pull off a miracle, due to my current points, I come in tied for 2nd (even without picking the Cup winner). Go Pens!

605
I should note that, being Irish, there are standards in how apologies are done. You have to show up -- pissant apologies at a distance are heavily discounted. You must have undergone a challenge -- slaying a creature or driving 100+ miles will work. You must bring alcohol aligned with your knowledge of the tastes of the recipient. You must submit to the convenience of the recipient as to time and place, and you must abase yourself and earnestly apologize for specific named wrongs done.

Only after this expiation can one freely behave as an equal.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 08, 2016 04:41 AM (EzgxV)

606
604 The Pirates won a doubleheader against the Mets yesterday and the Penguins are up 3-1 on SJ for the Stanley Cup. Its good too be a Pittsburgh sports fan today.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 08, 2016 04:15 AM (B7LSu)

This Rangers fan is pulling for the Pens. One more Pittsburgh win and I come in first place in a hockey playoff pool, to the tune of $1330. Should the Sharks pull off a miracle, due to my current points, I come in tied for 2nd (even without picking the Cup winner). Go Pens!

Posted by: RickZ at June 08, 2016 04:33 AM (Q/mcH)

The Sharks are the local team here. I've never seen them play, and likely will not in my lifetime. I'm thankful that their taxpayer subsidies are being born by San Jose and not my city -- we're already being gang-raped by the 49ers and the Earthquakes.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 08, 2016 04:45 AM (EzgxV)

607
I would like to apologize to Slapweasel for having to live in Cleveland.

Also sorry about your pops.

Posted by: eleven at June 08, 2016 04:45 AM (qUNWi)

608
Some things just lose their value if they become too easy. Nowadays, if there is any really great bit in an otherwise forgettable movie, chances are someone will feel the same and make a torrent just for that scene. Yet the interest is so much less.

Aside from nekkid women, one example is the saucer section crash landing in the first ST:TNG movie. Really the one great part of that movie in the waning days of models for such scenes. That was an example of something I'd stay on the same channel for if I knew it was coming up within a certain time frame, or I might switch back in time to catch it if nothing else held my interest.

I picked up a box set of three ST:TNG movies and never bothered to look at that scene. The only one I watched was the third because I hadn't bothered seeing it in the theater. It was pretty meh. Now I'm trying to sell off most of my DVDs because they take up more space than they're worth.

618
If anyone wants to volunteer, I have all kinds of small chores that need to be done. Who wants to mow the front lawn?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. A free Hankie with every couch sold! at June 08, 2016 05:36 AM (WVsWD)

619
"If anyone wants to volunteer, I have all kinds of small chores that need to be done. Who wants to mow the front lawn?"
-Posted by: Tim in Illinois. A free Hankie with every couch sold! at June 08, 2016 05:36 AM (WVsWD)

627
Good Morning Morons. Today is Wednesday, June 08, 2016. On this day in 1949 George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four was published. It was meant as a warning but instead has been used by liberals as a road map and instruction manual.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 08, 2016 05:55 AM (mpXpK)

628
Trump now has enough "bound delegates" to clinch the nomination and he went after Scankles hard yesterday on her illegal activities when she was SoS. I'm sure it pains the MFM to have to cover that. But like that couple of hardcore liberals from WI I met in Charleston, all her supporters will call them lies. She has been a crooked snake her entire life.

The State Department has told a federal court that processing a Republican National Committee demand for documents relating to Hillary Clinton and her aides would take as long as 75 years and would stretch generations.

This is the typical Scankles modis operandi. Delay, delay, delay and then claim it is an old issue. So why have these clowns not been told to either produce now or go to jail?

http://fxn.ws/1ZwLhtt

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 08, 2016 05:55 AM (mpXpK)

630
Kris Krystofferson had been diagnosed with memory loss from Alzheimer's but it turns out he was actually suffering from Lyme disease.

http://fxn.ws/1RWNMQ0

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 08, 2016 05:55 AM (mpXpK)

631
Recall the warnings after that DC minimum wage hike? Well a lot of DC workers are finding that the minimum wage is really zero now.

http://fxn.ws/1UDIRrE

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 08, 2016 05:56 AM (mpXpK)

632
Did Obama lie about the jobs numbers to stave off a rate hike asks this headline? Hahahahaha, he has lied about all the unemployment numbers from day 1.

634
San Jose police have identified 4 people they arrested at the Trump rally who were assaulting Trump supporters. I will lay dollars to donuts they will get minor charges and be released.

http://bit.ly/1UyunX3

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 08, 2016 05:56 AM (mpXpK)

635
Scankles' tech aid wants his immunity deal kept secret. He will probably get it too.

http://bit.ly/1ZwMZeD

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 08, 2016 05:57 AM (mpXpK)

636
Stupid Bernie supporters attack each other thinking the other side are Trump supporters.

http://bit.ly/1TUU98I

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 08, 2016 05:57 AM (mpXpK)

637
While the military has had massive budget cuts under the Republican sell-out on sequestration, congress is still lifting money from the DoD budget to fund other social programs under the radar. And here I thought we had a "Republican Congress".

641
Looks like another beautiful day here today. I'd like to go out on the porch and watch the sun come up but the liquor stores here do not open until 9 am.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 08, 2016 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

642
"Looks like another beautiful day here today. I'd like to go out on the porch and watch the sun come up but the liquor stores here do not open until 9 am."
-Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 08, 2016 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

A True Moron might not do that with coffee.

...that is why I always have beer in the garage fridge!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 08, 2016 06:05 AM (OQ9R7)

643
I hesitate to admit this to the horde, but I really like the movie Dark Shadows, with Johnny Depp as Barnabas Collins. He kills a bunch of pot smoking hippies at one point...which I appreciated. It's not the sort of movie that would ever win awards, but it was entertaining.

658
If you are worried about your Beer supply, I will send you some no matter what.

Name your poison.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Belly up to the Bar!! Plenty of room. at June 08, 2016 06:28 AM (WVsWD)

659
.."It has to be. As much as I like the Trumphouse I want to see how Sundance, dances around it. The mental gymnastics would be awe inspiring."
-Posted by: Tim in Illinois. pssssstttt......buddy...wanna buy some black market alfalfa? at June 08, 2016 06:23 AM (WVsWD)

I love Sundance. Just like most Humans, he is wrong at times.

Sundance takes things to their Logical End, most times.

In this case, he is wrong.

Reality must dawn upon you at some time. I'll wait...lol.

Love You, Brother!

*looks at watch*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 08, 2016 06:28 AM (OQ9R7)

660
"If you are worried about your Beer supply, I will send you some no matter what.
-Name your poison.

-Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Belly up to the Bar!! Plenty of room. at June 08, 2016 06:28 AM (WVsWD)

Like, a horse that is roughly shod would tear up the ground, so running roughshod means tearing it up.

I have no idea of any of what I just typed is true, just the way I always assumed the phrase originated.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 08, 2016 06:52 AM (WlGX+)

674
>>>>Did Obama lie about the jobs numbers to stave off a rate hike asks this
headline? Hahahahaha, he has lied about all the unemployment numbers
from day 1.....Yes obama lied to help hillary, I said that last week when the jobs report came out. The moment the Fed raises rates we will lapse into another recession.

It has all been artificially held up by zero interest rates for quite some time now. The DOW has been virtually stagnant since late 2013 and we are seeing zero growth in the GDP when you factor out Government spending. We are turning into Japan very quickly.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 08, 2016 06:53 AM (iONHu)

675
What are the bookies taking for odds on whether Ace will be Pro-Trump or Anti by today's last post?

If I were a bettin' man, I'd bet that Ace will be feeling the tingle today over Trump's promised speech on the Clinton Crime Family. "Probably" next Monday night, Trump said. And from the teasers in his speech last night, I know I'm stoked.

At best, I am about 3 hours away from Chicago. I want to keep it that way.

I'll see what the hipster bar in Champaign has to offer.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Belly up to the Bar!! Plenty of room. at June 08, 2016 06:57 AM (WVsWD)

679
Slapweasel, Chi's advice to L to "slow your roll" should apply equally to you. Once in a while you go off the deep end.

Posted by: creeper at June 08, 2016 06:58 AM (4KFU8)

680
"Looks like another beautiful day here today. I'd like to go out on the porch and watch the sun come up but the liquor stores here do not open until 9 am."
-Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 08, 2016 06:02 AM (mpXpK)
----------------------------------------------------

682
Yesterday was brutal for Ace. I am ready to give up on him. There is a link in my nic to an article about how Ryan is giving sound bites to Hillary to defeat Trumps campaign. After 8 years of repub cravings are we to knuckle under and elect another establishment choice to secure the Supreme Court? What good have they been so far?

687
Yes obama lied to help hillary, I said that last
week when the jobs report came out. The moment the Fed raises rates we
will lapse into another recession.

It has all been artificially
held up by zero interest rates for quite some time now. The DOW has been
virtually stagnant since late 2013 and we are seeing zero growth in the
GDP when you factor out Government spending. We are turning into Japan
very quickly.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 08, 2016 06:53 AM (iONHu)

Well we never have climbed out of the 2009 depression so it would be hard to go into "another recession".

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 08, 2016 07:05 AM (mpXpK)

688
Has the Wise Latina offered her insight into judicial bias based on culture yet?

695There is a link in my nic to an article about how Ryan is giving sound bites to Hillary to defeat Trumps campaign.

And why not? What the fuck does Ryan care who wins in November? No matter Trump or Scankles, he'll still havea DC job, a hefty salary and all his Congressional goodies. And, if by some chance he's thrown out of his office, again, what does he care? He'll just parlay his insider contacts into a sweet lobbyist job or some make-work position on a board of directors somewhere.

Ryan is the poster boy for my modest political reform: every day, every officeholder in the country from DMV scrunt to Speaker of the House should be hauled out of their beds and put in front of a tribunal to explain why they should not immediately be strung up from the nearest lamppost.

702
Someone care to endeavor to explain how someone can get an immunity deal, plead the fifth and not only have his plea deal sealed but not have his testimony recorded so as not to have to take the fifth in front of cameras?

What we need is a good old-fashioned reign of terror for about a couple decades.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 08, 2016 07:24 AM (3Xxpy)

703
Hi, Honey! I'm a young-ish, fun-loving Sea of Italo-Slavic extraction who loves getting to know all about YOU during intimate conversations on rainy nights! All genders are okay, but, mostly, I prefer men. Into bondage and other "punishment"-style games.

*actual ad at OceanOfLove.com*

Posted by: The Tyrrhenian Sea at June 08, 2016 07:24 AM (8rmdN)

704
Has any of y'all thought about who will be Hill's running mate? Yesterday at the water cooler meet up at work, I opined it would be interesting if she goes gay, Latino, or Muslim. All three are protected classes. I don't see how, in this environment, she chooses a white much less a white male.

After all, the media and the smart set tells us that we are all set to elect another "HISTORIC" first.

706
>>>Its how I get my reps in, and out. Over and over.
Posted by: Paul Ryan's Butt at June 08, 2016 07:19 AM (10hEu)

Oh, baby......if only you were 40 years younger......

Posted by: Hairy Reid at June 08, 2016 07:27 AM (8rmdN)

707
>>>>Has any of y'all thought about who will be Hill's running mate?
Yesterday at the water cooler meet up at work, I opined it would be
interesting if she goes gay, Latino, or Muslim. All three are protected
classes. I don't see how, in this environment, she chooses a white much
less a white male.

After all, the media and the smart set tells us that we are all set to elect another "HISTORIC" first.....She is going to pick Warren to try and get the Bernie supporters to vote for her.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 08, 2016 07:29 AM (iONHu)

708
I can't believe I went to bed so early on a historic day when the greatest women in history made history...now just kick that old man Bernie out the door, and life will be worth living. /sac

Posted by: Colin at June 08, 2016 07:30 AM (fxoKC)

709
She is going to pick Warren to try and get the Bernie supporters to vote for her.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 08, 2016 07:29 AM (iONHu)

An all vagina ticket?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 08, 2016 07:30 AM (zp+j1)

710
"S'okay. I like you anyway. You just take some getting used to."
-Posted by: creeper at June 08, 2016 07:23 AM (4KFU

Yeah, I know. I'm an acquired taste, I guess.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 08, 2016 07:31 AM (OQ9R7)

711
Wow. Things devolved into a serious Mongolian clusterfuck after I signed off last night.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 08, 2016 07:32 AM (0mRoj)

712
>>How do we explain an America that, alone in the world, so loves this savage sport?"

Calcio Storico, Historic Football, starts this Saturday in Florence, Italy. It's a bit more savage than American football. The referee carries a sword.

Posted by: x at June 08, 2016 07:32 AM (nFwvY)

713
And, for a limited time only, give me a million dollars and you get the support of those Wall Street firms that I used to work for!

Women vote in elections the same way they handle prom night in high school.

Guys like Lindsey Graham and Mark Kirk don't have dates.

Guys like Ryan and Cotton have brought dates, but they're wondering where they are.

Guys like Trump are fucking the prom queen and her best friend under the bleachers.

Same thing will happen in November. Women will talk about how much fun it is to shop with the metrosexual, how sweet the nice guys are, but when it comes to who they're going to fuck, it's the bold, self confident bad boy.

Posted by: jwest at June 08, 2016 07:34 AM (Zs4uk)

717
"Wow. Things devolved into a serious Mongolian clusterfuck after I signed off last night."
-Posted by: Insomniac at June 08, 2016 07:32 AM (0mRoj)

Most of it wouldn't have happened if you were there to moderate it.

*lies*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 08, 2016 07:35 AM (OQ9R7)

718
Hillary wearing a $12495 jacket while giving a speech about inequality of poor people. Historic!

719
She is going to pick Warren to try and get the Bernie supporters to vote for her.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 08, 2016 07:29 AM (iONHu)

Well, that would help with her with the Indigenous People of America vote.

Posted by: Usedtocould at June 08, 2016 07:35 AM (VCqKl)

720
The top 14-year-old boy in the world will usually beat the best female athlete in the world in any track and field event. Another piece of suppressed truth.

Posted by: IanDeal at June 08, 2016 07:35 AM (teGBX)

721
715 Trump should get the All Blacks to do a Haka before his speech next week. Drive the feministas completely over the fucking cliff.
Posted by: MTF at June 08, 2016 07:34 AM (XMhQP)

The conflict between their conditioned outrage at the display of masculinity and their limbic brain reaction causing them to soak their panties will cause their heads to explode.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 08, 2016 07:35 AM (0mRoj)

722Has any of y'all thought about who will be Hill's running mate? Yesterday at the water cooler meet up at work, I opined it would be interesting if she goes gay, Latino, or Muslim. All three are protected classes. I don't see how, in this environment, she chooses a white much less a white male.

After all, the media and the smart set tells us that we are all set to elect another "HISTORIC" first.Posted by: Usedtocould at June 08, 2016 07:25 AM (VCqKl)Here in MA, the local "news" radio is WBZ. For a while now, the overnight talk host and the morning anchor kibbitz for about 15 minutes before regular news programming begins. Today, the two of them were nauseatingly giddy over Scankles and who her running mate might be. The host thought one of the long-overdue-for-tar-and-feathers Castro brothers, while the anchor was certain it would be that pinch-faced, alum-vagina'd scold Warren.

735
The guy gets to compete against a bunch of girls, gets a trophy for cheating, is hailed as a hero in the media and then gets to shower with the girls--nice racket! And Roger Maris gets an asterisk?

And I can feasibly get her to pay me "venture-capital investor" style money to pile different types of rocks in different formations to see if they "produce energy' like the pyramids surely did in ancient Egypt?

Damn, anyone got a phone number where I can pitch this "proposal" for "funding" before someone else gets there?

I'm sure for barely 20 million I can field test prototypes of every common igneous matter and basic geometric shapes to test for energy.And if I don't find energy that way; maybe she'll shell out another couple million per test for more testing of other materials...