If you turn right at the helipad (which doesn't really look like a used helipad) and drive to the end of the road (off Rees Rd), there is a series of little cliffs where you can actually park your car on the rock. There are a couple of pitons around and I was just wondering if there is any recorded info on the area. Apparently Phillip Armstrong is the man to talk to. Anyone else know anything?

It is not in any of those old skool guides, but quite close to some crags that are.

Please do not park your car on the rock and preferably don't drive past the helipad. There is lots of archeology in this area, as you will see if you open your eyes. The locals were truely out there climbers.

On 18/02/2013 jimfalla wrote:>Please do not park your car on the rock and preferably don't drive past>the helipad. There is lots of archeology in this area, as you will see>if you open your eyes. The locals were truely out there climbers.>>And don't bloody retro bolt anything either....Enough damage has been>done here already by nob heads with drills.

Settle down cowboy, I aint' boltin' anything, except maybe for that 2 meter boulder with the hard move near the top....not. Didn't come across a single bolt in the entire area btw. Just a few pitons.

If visiting the crag just for a day in the Boys Toupee Area then the following might interest you. Park your car near the helipad (next to the turn off into Saddle Camp) and follow a disused, but flat, easy road into the right hand end of the cliff. The Boys Toupee Area and In Search Of Water will be just up to your left when you reach the cliff. About 8 minutes walking time.

If you keep following the cliff line you will be at Burrunj North. Climbing first happened in this area over 40 years but the "modern" development a mere 20 years ago

On 18/02/2013 shortman wrote:>>>It's not too clear, but the oval marks a piton.

A lot of stuff around there was climbed and subsequently ignored in the late 80s early 90s, that wall included. Basically the routes were not that good, so left to rot. There are also odd rusting carrots scattered on a couple of walls from earlier again. You should also look at the most recent management plan for the area which has a in place a ban on installation of fixed protection for climbing.

Other than that it is a cool place to explore. Further along that cliff to the south is some old graffiti from 1913 and 1930 (if you can find it). As James Falla mentioned there is also a large amount of aboriginal art and other archaeological remnants. Be careful as it is often not obvious to spot.

Please park at the helipad, or better at saddle-camp. The track is actually a closed track and every traffic makes it more obvious for other people who do not care. The flat rocks at the base of the cliffs host actually quite some rare orchids, some of which have been recently destroyed by a car hooning around....

On 18/02/2013 steff wrote:>Please park at the helipad, or better at saddle-camp. The track is actually>a closed track and every traffic makes it more obvious for other people>who do not care. The flat rocks at the base of the cliffs host actually>quite some rare orchids, some of which have been recently destroyed by>a car hooning around....

Thanks Steff. I did notice some unflowering orchards, but I still think we may be talking about a different place. Hooning would not possible. U couldn't even u-bolt there.

Just so you can understand what happened -

Here I was happily driving, looking for remote and private places to climb, where I stumble across this intersection and think hmmm which way? I think I'm gonna back track to that other road back there a bit. Keep in mind I have a low to the ground sedan. I ramble along for a bit, and come to a cliff, then stop the car. I get out and think shit, my front wheels are on rock. I then explored and climbed a bit. I dug a hole for my poo. I then drove to araps to get someone to come back the next day to do some more climbing. This we did. I have not been back since.

I will park my car where you say and be mindful of all the things you and others have mentioned.

actually, you can hoon around very well. Where the track bends left to the "old helipad" you can drive straight onto the flat rocks. I am living 20km from this place and it is my favorite Black Range spot. It is great climbing, has some funny hidden bouldering and is in general a very special place to hang around for a day, so by all means, explore that place more. Thanks for taking our concerns serious!!!