"There is at least one 5.13 at trout. It was a project last year, assume it got sent by now. "

FWIW there aren't currently any established .13s at Trout Creek and there are definitely none that involve jamming through the crux. The hardest grade anything at Trout with any length of actual crack climbing tends to top out around 5.12+. The current open projects (one of which Tommy Caldwell came close on, which you might be talking about) has very few holds/moves involving anything you might call a 'jam' and nobody's worked it since.

Oh, and Chris, nice list of OWs; I did include Army of Darkness in the original list. From the descriptions of it, it doesn't seem to be an OW, does it?

Hello Cam, Sorry for skippin over the list and totaly missin "Army's" listing. I believe the double kneebar bat hang qualifies as an OW. I saw the rule no O-dubs but fatties need love too. Thanks for the great thread.

didn't watch the video - but for some reason the opening screen shot doesn't look like glad to be a trad. i thought glad to be a trad was more of a fingers splitter, kind of wavy and flake-y in lighter colored rock(?).

didn't watch the video - but for some reason the opening screen shot doesn't look like glad to be a trad. i thought glad to be a trad was more of a fingers splitter, kind of wavy and flake-y in lighter colored rock(?).

(makes some sort of comment about the invalidity in a video, but admits they haven't seen it, turns out it's exactly the route in the video)

(makes some sort of comment about the invalidity in a video, but admits they haven't seen it, turns out it's exactly the route in the video)

fair enough - i try to avoid streaming videos at work, i'll check it out when i get home. i didn't mean to state that it wasn't the route, i just don't remember it looking like that. if i remember correctly there are several nice, hard routes in that general area.

In NH, Conor Cliffe freed the impressive overhanging aid crack '357' out at Green's last year at a probable mid 13 grade. 357 aka Angel It is the hardest crack climb I can think of in NH, though there are plenty of harder trad protected routes.