Unless you're talking about the embedded memory on the XB1, but that has absolutely nothing to do with the size of the system. It does affect the size of the CPU die, but then Sony went on spent that space on extra GPU units so the two chips are really about the same size.

Given that GDDR5 runs hotter and needs more cooling (which it does), if anything I would have expected Sony to have the bigger box. But that's clearly not the case. Wired did a teardown of an XB1 and there's a lot of just wasted space in there...normally console boxes are pretty packed but there's just empty space in the XB1. It's weird.

That's what I was getting at, the embedded ram, and I got the impression that as a result the APU would run hotter, the cooling notably IS centered on that. But I haven't looked into things too much, though it does sound like the GDDR5 Ram is slower and I THINK cooler, so perhaps that's a factor too.

The weird thing is how Microsoft doesn't seem to even know what their own system does. Raw performance doesn't matter. The PS2, afaik, wasn't as performant as the GC or XBox, and even the DC had some neat tricks that the PS2 didn't.

And the performance gap between the PS4 and XBone is ultimately NOT that great. And I mean I swear I'm not getting either anyway. So it's not the performance I'm interested -- it's the spin.

Because this really relates to what the company I'm with is doing.

And what the IT industry as a whole is doing.

And it's why I kind of hate the IT industry.)

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I imagine people are quite pleased with this result. Dude has not been making friends among gamers recently. I do feel at least cautiously optimistic about the xbone now. It still needs to lose the mandatory kinect (as in no longer needs to be connected to run).

I think making the Kinect a mandatory accessory included in the box was purely a financial decision. I'm almost positive it's the only reason for the extra $100 on the price and at this point I think they're trying to make back some of the money they've put into the development of the darn thing.

I mean, Microsoft was teasing the concept of the Kinect not long after the 360 launched and gave us a tech demo at least twice a year until it was finally released. And then... yeah, didn't exactly perform well, but unlike Sony's Move, Microsoft must have put a small fortune into the technology and can't let it just go the way of the Zune.

I imagine people are quite pleased with this result. Dude has not been making friends among gamers recently. I do feel at least cautiously optimistic about the xbone now. It still needs to lose the mandatory kinect (as in no longer needs to be connected to run).

Now that Don Mattrick as CEO of Zynga has been confirmed.... something foul is in the air. Zynga is many things, but they certainly aren't stupid. So why would they want the guy that basically destroyed customer confidence in the XBox name? Especially considering that Zynga themselves aren't very well loved by the gaming community.

The simplest explanation would be that Mattrick is bringing over some of his Microsoft money and is personally investing it in Zynga.

Now that Don Mattrick as CEO of Zynga has been confirmed.... something foul is in the air. Zynga is many things, but they certainly aren't stupid. So why would they want the guy that basically destroyed customer confidence in the XBox name? Especially considering that Zynga themselves aren't very well loved by the gaming community.

The simplest explanation would be that Mattrick is bringing over some of his Microsoft money and is personally investing it in Zynga.

They probably offered him a lot of money and he took them up on the offer. I love some of the quotes online I've read:

"Wow, with stuff like EA and the Xbox One DRM launch on his resume, this guy should fit right in at Zynga! Welcome aboard, sir! "

"If you want to play FarmVille offline, we have a product for you - It's called "Agriculture.'"

Now that Don Mattrick as CEO of Zynga has been confirmed.... something foul is in the air. Zynga is many things, but they certainly aren't stupid. So why would they want the guy that basically destroyed customer confidence in the XBox name? Especially considering that Zynga themselves aren't very well loved by the gaming community.

The simplest explanation would be that Mattrick is bringing over some of his Microsoft money and is personally investing it in Zynga.

They probably offered him a lot of money and he took them up on the offer. I love some of the quotes online I've read:

"Wow, with stuff like EA and the Xbox One DRM launch on his resume, this guy should fit right in at Zynga! Welcome aboard, sir! "

"If you want to play FarmVille offline, we have a product for you - It's called "Agriculture.'"