[LIST][*]1. [B]Attendees & Introductions of new attendees.[/B]
There were 8 attendees.[*]2. [B]Any proposed updates to the aims or rules of the group.[/B]
None.[*]3. [B]Possible selection of officers or area contacts.[/B]
No proposals.[*]4. [B]Progress reports.[/B]
[LIST][*]4.1. [B][url=http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/331764-tp-qupzilla.html]Qupzilla[/url][/B]. (nizovn)
Rotation support is usable. After minor updates and a code clean up, the new version will be released.[*]4.2. [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-apps-games/332183-qt-webbrowser.html]Qt browser[/url][/B]. (nizovn)
As most work is being done on the Qt plugin, Progress on the Qt browser is similar to Qupzilla.[*]4.3. [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-development/332182-qt5-webos-sdk.html]webOS Qt5 SDK.[/url][/b] (nizovn)
This project can be considered complete. There will be no updates for the foreseeable future.[*]4.4. [B][url=http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-internals/331796-webos-internals-meta-doctor-2017-a.html#post3451411]Updated meta-doctors[/url][/B]. (Herrie, bbito)
No major progress, but some links will be updated.[*]4.5. [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/330935-bing-google-maps-location-unavailable.html]Updated location service[/url][/B]. (Misj, mazzinia)
No Progress.[*]4.6. [B][url=http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-patches/326893-webosinternals-patch-portal-down.html#post3450982]Fix the webos internals patch feed or manage it manually[/url][/B]. (novaldex, Herrie) > [url=http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-events/331758-webos-user-s-online-meet-up-2.html#post3451391]Progress Report[/url]
No Report.[*]4.7. [B][url=http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-tips-info-resources/331800-documentation-management-thread-webos-user-group.html]Preservation / Restoration of sources of documentation[/url]* (including original Palm documents, Open WebOS, git.webos-internals.org & 3rd party sources such as webOS101).[/B] (All members in the sub-sections)
[LIST][*]4.7.1. [B]Documentation policy.[/B]
There was discussion about making a central documentation repository on github and also creating backups across sites.[*]4.7.2. [B][url=http://www.banneret.nl/webos/documentation/]Find / improve documentation of mojo / enyo.[/url][/B] (Misj)
It was suggested that information on code for re-sizing for different screens and file-handling / default app be showcased.[*]4.7.3. [B]On device Help System.[/B]
No report[/list][*]4.8. [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-apps-games/332122-webos-app-museum.html]webOS App Museum[/url] / Indexing the FTP app source.[/b] (Misj' / JVLebbink1)
No report. To be removed as complete.[*]4.9 [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-apps-games/329621-making-another-app-store.html#post3453768]App Store Specification.[/url][/B] (also: [url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webosnation-com-site-news-feedback-help/332000-app-gallery-issue-reporting-thread.html#post3452882]webOS Nation App gallery issues[/url]). (Preemptive + others)
No updates.[/list][*]5. [B]Discussion of other items.[/B]
[LIST][*]5.1. [B][url=http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-development/331801-options-automated-device-backup-webos-user-group.html#post3451423]Device back up options[/url].[/B]
No updates.[*]5.2. [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-patches/331974-vulnerabilities-fixes-legacy-webos.html]webOS Vulnerabilities and Fixes[/url][/B].
There are no new vulnerability reports or fixes.[*]5.3. [B][url=http://forum.webosose.org/]LG's webOS Open Source Edition[/url][/B]
It was reported that LG issued Xiaomi A1 phone to the webOS Ports team for development of LGwebOS OSE. The A1 now has bluetooth, Wi-Fi and correct clock time. Following the next LuneOS release, work will continue to base it on the OSE to leverage the work of LG's developers.[*]5.4. [B]Items from the forums[/B]
[list]
5.4.1 [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-discussion-lounge/332271-new-solution-work-around-https-sites-won-t-load.html]HTTPS sites that won't load[/url][/B]
It was suggested that there is a system problem to do with SSL. Possibly the newer TLS protocols are unsupported. There also appear to be problems with some captive portals. A [url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-discussion-lounge/332279-end-support-tls-1-0-1-1-problem.html]thread to investigate this issue[/url] will be posted.
5.4.2 [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/palm-os-devices-apps/332276-palmos-adevelopment-board.html]PalmOS on a development board[/url][/B]
No comments.
5.4.3 [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/332277-there-any-night-modes-webos-like-f-lux.html]Are there any Night Modes for WebOS like f.lux?[/url][/B]
There do not appear to be configuration settings for colour temperature.
5.4.4 [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/upcoming-rumored-webos-devices/332267-pivotce-new-palm-phone-revealed.html]The New Palm phone[/url][/B]
No significant comments.[/list][/list][*]6. [B]Any other business.[/B]
The possibility of extending the [url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-discussion-lounge/332280-receiving-emojis.html]Prelude font to support open-source emojis[/url] was suggested. The conversation moved to discussion of messaging alternatives.[*]7. [B]Date of next meeting.[/B]
November 25th at 1630 GMT (note that's 30mins later)[/list]
The full log of the sixteenth meeting is here: [url=http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos/webos.20181022.txt]http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos/webos.20181022.txt: SUN October 21st[/url].

Proposed agenda for Meeting No. 17 of The webOS User Group, on November 25th 2018 at [B][color="#FF0000"]1630[/COLOR] GMT[/B] / UTC. IRC: #webOS channel on Freenode. [url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-events/331758-webos-user-s-online-meet-up-7.html#post3453866]Instructions to register user (nick) name[/url].
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I've made a few changes. Feel free to post if you think of anything that can be added. Inactive projects may be temporarily removed.

[LIST][*]1. [B]Attendees & Introductions of new attendees.[/B]
There were 6 attendees.[*]2. [B]Any proposed updates to the aims or rules of the group.[/B]
None.[*]3. [B]Possible selection of officers or area contacts.[/B]
No proposals.[*]4. [B]Progress reports.[/B]
[LIST][*]4.1. [B][url=http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/331764-tp-qupzilla.html]Qupzilla[/url][/B]. (nizovn)
The new version has been released. It may be necessary to [url=https://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/331764-tp-qupzilla-7.html#post3454523]clear the jailer[/url] for it to run.[*]4.2. [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-apps-games/332183-qt-webbrowser.html]Qt browser[/url][/B]. (nizovn)
The new version has been released.[*]4.3. [B][url=http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-internals/331796-webos-internals-meta-doctor-2017-a.html#post3451411]Updated meta-doctors[/url][/B]. (Herrie, bbito)
No progress.[*]4.4. [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/330935-bing-google-maps-location-unavailable.html]Updated location service[/url][/B]. (Misj, mazzinia)
No update.[*]4.5. [B][url=http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-patches/326893-webosinternals-patch-portal-down.html#post3450982]Fix the webos internals patch feed or manage it manually[/url][/B]. (novaldex, Herrie)
No Report.[*]4.6. [B][url=http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-tips-info-resources/331800-documentation-management-thread-webos-user-group.html]Preservation / Restoration of sources of documentation[/url]* (including original Palm documents, Open WebOS, git.webos-internals.org & 3rd party sources such as webOS101).[/B] (All members in the sub-sections)
[LIST][*]4.6.1. [B]Documentation policy.[/B]
It was agreed to use the site at [url]https://github.com/codepoet80/webos-sdk-archive[/url] as a central backup repository for documentation.[*]4.6.2. [B][url=http://www.banneret.nl/webos/documentation/]Find / improve documentation of mojo / enyo.[/url][/B] (Misj)
No Report.[*]4.6.3. [B]On device Help System.[/B]
No report. There a a few copies of the original files on the web, notably, palm.si. No backend system.[/list][*]4.7. [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-apps-games/329621-making-another-app-store.html#post3453768]App Store Specification.[/url][/B] (also: [url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webosnation-com-site-news-feedback-help/332000-app-gallery-issue-reporting-thread.html#post3452882]webOS Nation App gallery issues[/url]). (Preemptive + others)
Zoopda ran their own app store for a while. It was suggested that it would be fairly easy to reverse engineer the code.[*]4.8 [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/332277-there-any-night-modes-webos-like-f-lux.html]Night Moves app[/url][/B] Added as there is an attempt at a f.lux/Redshift type app. Dimming only for now.
Some updates will be made to the TP version. It is 'set & forget' on the phones.[*]4.9 [B]webOS Nation App Gallery Submission And Access[/B]. (Preemptive) [url]http://preware.net/feeds/precentral/Packages[/url]
Though it is possible to download via preware, It appears the app gallery is not updating it's feed. But opening [url]http://preware.net/feeds/precentral/Packages[/url] reveals the download links. Viewing the gallery could allow those links to be altered to download any newer versions since the gallery broke. As the gallery has not been fixed for some time now, it was suggested that moves be made to obtain the apps for re-hosting.[/list][*]5. [B]Discussion of other items.[/B]
The meeting ended with no further discussion.
[LIST][*][color="#a4a4a4"]5.1. Is the end of support for TLS 1.0 & 1.1 a problem?[*]5.2. Device back up options.[*]5.3. webOS Vulnerabilities and Fixes.[*]5.4. LG's webOS Open Source Edition.[*]5.5. Possible Emoji support.[*]5.6. Does the VPN app need an update?[/COLOR][/list][*][color="#a4a4a4"]6. Any other business.[/COLOR][*]7. [B]Date of next meeting.[/B]
December 16th at 1700 GMT[/list]
The full log of the seventeenth meeting is here: [url=http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos/webos.20181026.txt]http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos/webos.20181026.txt: SUN November 25th[/url].

Proposed agenda for Meeting No. 18 of The webOS User Group, on December 16th 2018 at [B][color="#FF0000"]1700[/COLOR] GMT[/B] / UTC. IRC: #webOS channel on Freenode. [url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-events/331758-webos-user-s-online-meet-up-7.html#post3453866]Instructions to register user (nick) name[/url].
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I've made a few changes. Feel free to post if you think of anything that can be added. Inactive projects may be temporarily removed.

[B]**PLEASE NOTE: NOTHING HERE SHOULD BE TAKEN AS A PROMISE AND NO TIME LINES WILL BE MADE PUBLIC. ANY PROGRESS WILL BE HELPED IF MORE PEOPLE OFFER ASSISTANCE.**[/B]

Summary of Meeting No. 18 of The webOS User Group, on December 16th 2018 at 1700 GMT / UTC. IRC: #webOS channel on Freenode.
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[LIST][*]1. [B]Attendees & Introductions of new attendees.[/B]
There were 6 attendees.[*]2. [B]Any proposed updates to the aims or rules of the group.[/B]
None.[*]3. [B]Possible selection of officers or area contacts.[/B]
No proposals.[*]4. [B]Progress reports.[/B]
[LIST][*]4.1. [B][url=http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-internals/331796-webos-internals-meta-doctor-2017-a.html#post3451411]Updated meta-doctors[/url][/B]. (Herrie, bbito)
No Progress.[*]4.2. [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/330935-bing-google-maps-location-unavailable.html]Updated location service[/url][/B]. (Misj, mazzinia)
No updates.[*][color="#a4a4a4"]4.3. [url=http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-patches/326893-webosinternals-patch-portal-down.html#post3450982]Fix the webos internals patch feed or manage it manually[/url]. (novaldex, Herrie)
Skipped[/color][*]4.4. [B][url=http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-tips-info-resources/331800-documentation-management-thread-webos-user-group.html]Preservation / Restoration of sources of documentation[/url]* (including original Palm documents, Open WebOS, git.webos-internals.org & 3rd party sources such as webOS101).[/B] (All members in the sub-sections)
[LIST][*]4.4.1. [B]Documentation policy.[/B]
Some more items have been copied to the central repo. It was decided to list resources that can be backed up on [url=http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-tips-info-resources/331800-documentation-management-thread-webos-user-group.html]the documentation thread[/url].[*][color="#a4a4a4"]4.4.2. [url=http://www.banneret.nl/webos/documentation/]Find / improve documentation of mojo / enyo.[/url] (Misj)
Skipped.[*]4.4.3. On device Help System.
Skipped.[/list][*]4.5. [url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-apps-games/329621-making-another-app-store.html#post3453768]App Store Specification.[/url] (also: [url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webosnation-com-site-news-feedback-help/332000-app-gallery-issue-reporting-thread.html#post3452882]webOS Nation App gallery issues[/url]). (Preemptive + others)
Skipped.[/color][*]4.6 [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/332277-there-any-night-modes-webos-like-f-lux.html]Night Moves app[/url][/B] Added as there is an attempt at a f.lux/Redshift type app. (codepoet80_)
An update (1.0.2) is available via Preware, which solves a couple of bugs. No API means of altering colour temperature is currently known. No effort will be made on this aspect unless that knowledge changes.[*]4.7 [B]webOS Nation App Gallery Submission And Access[/B]. (Preemptive)
An email has been sent to Derek Kessler asking if it is possible to fix the app gallery or (Plan B) could the assets be given to the community?[/list][*]5. [B]Discussion of other items.[/B]
[LIST][*]5.1. [B][url=http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-development/331801-options-automated-device-backup-webos-user-group.html#post3451423]Device back up options[/url].[/B]
The group discussed an article about game enthusiasts making their own game servers for old games. A [url=https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/10/researchers-can-now-legally-restore-abandoned-online-game-servers/]recent U.S. ruling[/url] has allowed this for 'research purposes' where people have legal access to the original server code. We do not have HP's back up code and know of no one outside the company who does. Reverse engineering my be possible, but unlikely given the effort involved. While it may be worth asking HP for the original code, that or making a new back up system (and app store) seem to be the two options.[*]5.2. [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-patches/331974-vulnerabilities-fixes-legacy-webos.html]webOS Vulnerabilities and Fixes[/url][/B].
[LIST][*]5.2.1. [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-discussion-lounge/332279-end-support-tls-1-0-1-1-problem.html]Is the end of support for TLS 1.0 & 1.1 a problem?[/url][/B]
It was generally agreed that this needs fixing. Though the new browsers contain their own libraries, this can also affect web services and of course, the stock browser. An attempt to simply drop in the LuneOS version failed, but dkirker is trying to build the new protocols into a webOS package. There was some scepticism if the backwards compatibility would work, but it may be possible to get to 1.2 (current best protocol) even if 1.3 (future) breaks too much. In the light of the work being done, this item will become a project.[*]5.2.2. [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/open-webos-general-discussion/332302-vpn-hp-webos.html#post3454594]Does the VPN app need an update?[/url][/B]
It may be possible to use LuneOS / OpenVPN code and make a simple wrapper for webOS, but this is currently lower priority than TLS.[/LIST][*]5.3. [B][url=http://forum.webosose.org/]LG's webOS Open Source Edition[/url][/B]
nizovn is porting pure OSE to the Xaomi A1 (tissot) as an exercise / demonstration.[*]5.4. [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-development/320256-emoji-emoticon-display-messaging-app-3.html]Possible Emoji support.[/url][/B] (it needs more than a new font)
It was reported that the emoji codes are being correctly stored and parsed, but are likely unsupported in Luna service manager. It's likely that a webkit upgrade would be required - a lot of work.[*]5.5. [B]Possible LuneOS testing protocol.[/B]
It was suggested that creating a test process on a thread would help standardise things and perhaps slightly increase the number of testers.[/list][*]6. [B]Any other business.[/B]
No further business.[*]7. [B]Date of next meeting.[/B]
January 13th 2019 at 1700 GMT[/list]
The full log of the eighteenth meeting is here: [url=http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos/webos.20181217.txt]http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos/webos.20181217.txt: SUN December 16th[/url].

I was thinking that people might want to suggest project priorities and I could order the projects on the agenda. Also, there's the possibility of getting almost a 'team' (i.e. more than one person!) on an important project. This will of course depend on people having similar or complementary skills as well as the availability factor. So it's a bit of a long shot!

So, does anyone have thoughts on what's the order? From most to least urgent rather than important.

[B]**PLEASE NOTE: NOTHING HERE SHOULD BE TAKEN AS A PROMISE AND NO TIME LINES WILL BE MADE PUBLIC. ANY PROGRESS WILL BE HELPED IF MORE PEOPLE OFFER ASSISTANCE.**[/B]

Summary of Meeting No. 19 of The webOS User Group, on January 13th 2019 at 1700 GMT / UTC. IRC: #webOS channel on Freenode.
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[LIST][*]1. [B]Attendees & Introductions of new attendees.[/B]
There were 4 attendees.
[LIST][*]2.1. [B]Selection of a Priority Project?[/B]
It was proposed and agreed that each meeting would select a "Priority Project" for the month ahead. This would commonly be the most important or urgent project and the process would highlight and promote the project in the hope of focusing and attracting help and support.[/list][*]3. [B]Possible selection of officers or area contacts.[/B]
No proposals.[*]4. [B]Progress reports.[/B]
[LIST][*]4.1. [B][url=http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-internals/331796-webos-internals-meta-doctor-2017-a.html#post3451411]Updated meta-doctors[/url][/B]. (Herrie, bbito)
It was reported that those managing the project had communicated and there were positive signs that some progress may be made in the near future.[*]4.2. [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/330935-bing-google-maps-location-unavailable.html]Updated location service[/url][/B]. (Misj, mazzinia)
No Report.[*]4.3. [B][url=http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-patches/326893-webosinternals-patch-portal-down.html#post3450982]Fix the webos internals patch feed or manage it manually[/url][/B]. (novaldex, Herrie) > [url=http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-events/331758-webos-user-s-online-meet-up-2.html#post3451391]Progress Report[/url]
No Report[*]4.4. [B][url=http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-tips-info-resources/331800-documentation-management-thread-webos-user-group.html]Preservation / Restoration of sources of documentation[/url]* (including original Palm documents, Open WebOS, git.webos-internals.org & 3rd party sources such as webOS101).[/B] (All members in the sub-sections)
[LIST][*]4.4.1. [B]Documentation policy.[/B]
On the central repository, some problems have been found with links in Github pages. This issue will be looked into.[*][color="#a4a4a4"]4.4.2. [B][url=http://www.banneret.nl/webos/documentation/]Find / improve documentation of mojo / enyo.[/url][/B] (Misj)
Skipped[/color][*][color="#a4a4a4"]4.4.3. [B]On device Help System.[/B]
Skipped[/color][/list][*][color="#a4a4a4"]4.5 [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-apps-games/329621-making-another-app-store.html#post3453768]App Store Specification.[/url][/B] (Preemptive + others)
Skipped[/color][*]4.6 [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/332277-there-any-night-modes-webos-like-f-lux.html]Night Moves app[/url][/B]. (codepoet80_)
A feature has been added to Night Moves to kill or steal focus from apps that keep the screen on. There is also a nightly toggle for Bluetooth. Both features avoid battery drain or disturbance if the user falls asleep. It was confirmed that PDK apps commonly keep the screen on and the Qt apps are PDK apps. It appears easiest currently to list such apps rather than code a detection system for them.[*]4.7 [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webosnation-com-site-news-feedback-help/332000-app-gallery-issue-reporting-thread.html]webOS Nation App Gallery Submission And Access[/url][/B]. (Preemptive)
There has been no response to the enquiry so far. If there is nothing next month, more efforts will be made[*]4.8. [B]Priority Project: [url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-discussion-lounge/332279-end-support-tls-1-0-1-1-problem.html][color="#00b200"]Upgrading TLS to at least version 1.2.[/color][/url][/B] (dkirker)
No Report.[/list][*]5. [B]Discussion of other items.[/B]
[LIST][*]5.1. [B][url=http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-development/331801-options-automated-device-backup-webos-user-group.html#post3451423]Device back up options[/url].[/B]
No updates.[*]5.2. [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-patches/331974-vulnerabilities-fixes-legacy-webos.html]webOS Vulnerabilities and Fixes[/url][/B].
No new reports.
[list][*]5.2.1. [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/open-webos-general-discussion/332302-vpn-hp-webos.html#post3454594]Does the VPN app need an update?[/url][/B]
No updates.[/list][*]5.3. [B][url=http://forum.webosose.org/]LG's webOS Open Source Edition[/url][/B]
The port of 'raw' OSE to the A1 continues. adb access is now possible, so debugging can be done, but the project does not yet boot.[*]5.4. [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-development/320256-emoji-emoticon-display-messaging-app-3.html]Possible Emoji support.[/url][/B] (it needs more than a new font)
Whatever the exact bug is, it is currently considered too deep in the system to bother investigating further at this time as there are more important problems.[*]5.5. [B]Possible LuneOS testing protocol.[/B]
The policy of the webOS User Group is to support webOS Ports and LuneOS, but the group is not webOS Ports. Although this is considered a useful idea, we await a sign of formal approval before drafting a testing protocol for users.[/list][*]6. [B]Any other business.[/B]
[list]
[*]6.1. It was mentioned in passing that there was an update to the completed Qt browser project to adjust the UI for the smaller screen of the Veer.
[*]6.2. An idea to possibly 'feature' a dormant project or discussion item will be discussed next month.
[*]6.3. It was proposed and agreed that [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-discussion-lounge/332279-end-support-tls-1-0-1-1-problem.html][color="#00b200"]Upgrading TLS to at least 1.2.[/color][/url][/B] will be the current Priority Project.[/list][*]7. [B]Date of next meeting.[/B]
February 17th 2019 at 1700 GMT[/list]
The full log of the nineteenth meeting is here: [url=http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos/webos.20190114.txt]http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos/webos.20190114.txt: SUN January 13th[/url].

Following the meeting of January 2019, the webOS User Group designated [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-discussion-lounge/332279-end-support-tls-1-0-1-1-problem.html][color="#00b200"]Upgrading TLS to at least version 1.2.[/color][/url][/B] as a Priority Project. Anyone with the appropriate knowledge and skills is invited to offer advice and help.

About 30 of those 95 repos have now been migrated from wosigh to [url]http://GitHub.com/webos-internals[/url]

At the same time we have been working on getting Preware feeds to build ([url]http://GitHub.com/webos-internals/build[/url]). This is now more or less working (feeds get generated, but still issues in the logs to solve) and feeds to verify.

This all will help in getting patches in, the OpenSSL efforts and also the meta-doctor project.

We've been able to recover the missing packages as well now and things start to look better in terms of Preware feeds. Still not there and still areas to cover but we'll get there step by step.

Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk

02/13/2019, 12:23 PM

Preemptive

BUMP! The next meeting is Sunday.

Post if you want anything added to the agenda.

02/15/2019, 07:39 AM

mousse04

Hi,

I'm very new about WebOS, but I'm surprise, and I thank all people in the community, that many services are stil working fine or have app for it. Google service, Twitter,Dropbox.
The bad point is about security, in particular, for email app. As you stated TLS 1.2 support is the priority and I think you've right.
What about other new security method like :
STARTTLS, NTLM etc ... ?

Thanks for making this great SW alive :)

02/15/2019, 09:35 AM

mousse04

Hi guys,

first, thanks a lot for making alive this webos SW. I'm very new in webos, got my Pre 3 yesterday, but I already get used to dead OS :) (I've had Nokia N9, most BB10, Ubuntu Phone, FirefoxOS phone and currently I have Xperia X with SailfishOS).
Anyway, good news that supporting TLS 1.2 is on top of priority as I think it is very important. What about all the other security method like STARTTLS, NTLM ?

Thanks

Math

02/17/2019, 07:25 AM

Preemptive

BUMP! It's today.

I added an item on the GPS date rollover - don't know if this can be established in advance.

02/17/2019, 03:02 PM

Preemptive

[B]**PLEASE NOTE: NOTHING HERE SHOULD BE TAKEN AS A PROMISE AND NO TIME LINES WILL BE MADE PUBLIC. ANY PROGRESS WILL BE HELPED IF MORE PEOPLE OFFER ASSISTANCE.**[/B]

Summary of Meeting No. 20 of The webOS User Group, on February 17th 2019 at 1700 GMT / UTC. IRC: #webOS channel on Freenode.
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[LIST][*]1. [B]Attendees & Introductions of new attendees.[/B]
There were 7 attendees.[*]2. [B]Any proposed updates to the aims or rules of the group.[/B]
[LIST][*]2.1. [B]Maybe 'feature' a dormant project or discussion item?[/B]
This was agreed to be a useful, but non-urgent idea.[/LIST][*]3. [B]Possible selection of officers or area contacts.[/B]
No proposals.[*]4. [B]Progress reports.[/B]
Herrie updated on fixes and reclaimed webOS Internals files. These will help restore the patch portal and the building of app and patches. With help from rwhitby & novaldex, everything from git.webos-internals.org has been recovered and is in either [url]http://github.com/wosigh[/url] or [url]http://github.com/webos-internals[/url] . Patches can be accepted to these repositories.
[LIST][*]4.1. [B]Priority Project: [url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-discussion-lounge/332279-end-support-tls-1-0-1-1-problem.html][color="#00b200"]Upgrading TLS to at least 1.2.[/color][/url][/B] (dkirker)
dkirker has investigated this issue. He is confident a fix is possible and will shortly be testing the patch he has made. The fixes mentioned above may help in packaging the fix. It is expected that this will improve interaction with captive portals, but root certificates will still need to be user installed.[*]4.2. [B][url=http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-internals/331796-webos-internals-meta-doctor-2017-a.html#post3451411]Updated meta-doctors[/url][/B]. (Herrie, bbito)
Again, the updated webOS Internals tools should help this effort, but expertise with makefiles is still sought.[*]4.3. [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/330935-bing-google-maps-location-unavailable.html]Updated location service[/url][/B]. (Misj, mazzinia)
No updates. See also item 5.2.2.[*]4.4. [B][url=http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-patches/326893-webosinternals-patch-portal-down.html#post3450982]Fix the webos internals patch feed or manage it manually[/url][/B]. (novaldex, Herrie)
There is still work to be done, but as above, work has been done to restore the function of the patch portal.[*]4.5. [B][url=http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-tips-info-resources/331800-documentation-management-thread-webos-user-group.html]Preservation / Restoration of sources of documentation[/url]* (including original Palm documents, Open WebOS, git.webos-internals.org & 3rd party sources such as webOS101).[/B] (All members in the sub-sections)
There was some discussion of a [url=https://gitlab.com/gkrishnaks/WaybackEverywhere-Firefox]wayback machine plugin for browsers[/url] which could be used to check and back up copies of webOS documentation on the web.
[LIST][*]4.5.1. [color="#a4a4a4"][B]Documentation policy.[/B]
Skipped[/color][*]4.5.2. [color="#a4a4a4"][B][url=http://www.banneret.nl/webos/documentation/]Find / improve documentation of mojo / enyo.[/url][/B] (Misj)
Skipped[/color][*]4.5.3. [color="#a4a4a4"][B]On device Help System.[/B]
Skipped[/color][*]4.5.4. [color="#a4a4a4"][B]Old domains associated with webOS.[/B] (Preemptive)
Skipped[/color][/LIST][*]4.6. [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-apps-games/329621-making-another-app-store.html#post3453768]App Store Specification.[/url][/B] (Preemptive + others)
No updates.[*]4.7. [color="#a4a4a4"][B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/332277-there-any-night-modes-webos-like-f-lux.html]Night Moves app[/url][/B]. (codepoet80_)
Skipped[/color][*]4.8. [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webosnation-com-site-news-feedback-help/332000-app-gallery-issue-reporting-thread.html]webOS Nation App Gallery Submission And Access[/url][/B]. (Preemptive)
Further contact will be attempted regarding the app gallery. There was some debate about different types of app and the extent to which they could be used with or adapted to LuneOS.[/LIST][*]5. [B]Discussion of other items.[/B]
[LIST][*]5.1. [color="#a4a4a4"][B][url=http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-development/331801-options-automated-device-backup-webos-user-group.html#post3451423]Device back up options[/url].[/B]
Skipped[/color][*]5.2. [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-patches/331974-vulnerabilities-fixes-legacy-webos.html]webOS Vulnerabilities and Fixes[/url][/B].
[LIST][*]5.2.1. [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/open-webos-general-discussion/332302-vpn-hp-webos.html#post3454594]Does the VPN app need an update?[/url][/B]
It is assumed the TLS fix will at least aid a possible update.[*]5.2.2. [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-patches/331974-vulnerabilities-fixes-legacy-webos.html#post3455213]Will current firmware support the GPS date rollover?[/url][/B]
It's is possible, that legacy webOS is 'new' enough to have up to date firmware. If not, it will hopefully be possible to check the model of the chip and determine if updates are available from the manufacturer. If there are none, it remains to be seen if the community could create updates. It should be noted that the broken IP location service (4.3) is inconvenient, but failure of the GPS system will likely render webOS devices unusable for typical navigation scenarios.[/LIST][*]5.3. [B][url=http://forum.webosose.org/]LG's webOS Open Source Edition[/url][/B]
It is now possible to pair Bluetooth headphones with webOS OSE on RaspberyPi.[*]5.4. [color="#a4a4a4"][B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-development/320256-emoji-emoticon-display-messaging-app-3.html]Possible Emoji support.[/url][/B] (it needs more than a new font)
Skipped[/color][*]5.5. [B]Possible LuneOS testing protocol.[/B]
No updates.[*]5.6. [B][url=https://forums.webosnation.com/hp-veer/326014-t-mobile-settings-pls-help.html]MMS issues[/url].[/B]
dkirker was looking into a bug where certain carrier's messaging protocols caused the messaging app to ignore MMS messages. This is not currently considered urgent.[/list][*]6. [B]Priority Project.[/B]
This remains unchanged. There was no proposal to highlight any dormant project.[*]7. [B]Any other business.[/B]
None.[*]9. [B]Date of next meeting.[/B]
March 17th 2019 at 1700 GMT / UTC.[/LIST]
The full log of the twentieth meeting is here: [url=http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos/webos.20190218.txt]http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos/webos.20190218.txt: SUN February 17th[/url].