A FAMILY’S day at the park ended in upset when their pet dog got his head stuck between two boulders at a Blackburn park.

Childminder Paula Gerrard, her partner Carl, and their three-year-old daughter Sophia were walking cocker spaniels Eric and Henry at Witton Park when Eric became struck near to the children’s playground.

The family eventually freed Eric using car jacks.

Paula, 40, said: “On the path you walk through with dogs, there’s boulders that people can sit on. Carl sat on one with the dogs on their leads while I pushed Sophia on the swings.

“Eric started yelping, because he got his head stuck between two of the boulders.”

The family of Coldstream Place, Blackburn, struggled to free nine-year-old Eric, who became ‘distressed’, but even with the help of passers-by they couldn’t get his head loose, at around 6pm on Saturday.

Paula said: “Eric was struggling and trying to free himself. He was hurting himself so I had to pin him to the floor.

“I rang the fire brigade and they said I needed to call the RSPCA, who would evaluate the situation, and it was up to them to call the fire brigade.

“It took me 20 minutes to get through to speak to somebody. Eric was trapped for one and a half hours before we managed to get him free using two car jacks.

“I’m disgusted and upset the RSPCA did not do anything sooner. They rang us just as we got Eric free and said the fire brigade would send an engine.”

An RSPCA spokeswoman said: “One of our inspectors started making her way to the scene to try and help. The inspector, who was the nearest, was an hour and a half away from the country park dealing with another animal in need, so she called the fire and rescue service and asked them to help.

“We are a charity which answers more than a million calls for help every year and at busy times there can be a queue on our phone lines. On this evening the inspector had been dealing with a case of a horse which had been attacked by children and a kitten which had broken its leg in Yorkshire.”

A fire service spokesman added: “When we receive a call from the owner of a small animal that is trapped, we always ask the RSPCA to investigate first and see if they can free the animal without the need for a fire engine which may be required for a life critical incident.”

I can understand the argument from both sides here, in that this is a relatively minor incident in which a life is not in immediate danger, so the fire service don't want to commit a fully-crewed appliance to it until they know the exact circumstances, and as greenscreener rightly points out, the RSPCA is a charity with finite resources - they can't be everywhere at once. That said, it often puzzles my why the Fire & Rescue service don't have "first responders" or cars with a single operative, a bit like the ambulance and paramedic service do - that way at least with a minor incident like this you're not commiting more resources than you absolutely have to, but at the same time you could have someone on-scene relatively quickly who can assess the situation, make the right calls, and start to give assistance there and then until the cavalry arrive if necessary. But then that would involve thinking and a bit of effort.

I can understand the argument from both sides here, in that this is a relatively minor incident in which a life is not in immediate danger, so the fire service don't want to commit a fully-crewed appliance to it until they know the exact circumstances, and as greenscreener rightly points out, the RSPCA is a charity with finite resources - they can't be everywhere at once. That said, it often puzzles my why the Fire & Rescue service don't have "first responders" or cars with a single operative, a bit like the ambulance and paramedic service do - that way at least with a minor incident like this you're not commiting more resources than you absolutely have to, but at the same time you could have someone on-scene relatively quickly who can assess the situation, make the right calls, and start to give assistance there and then until the cavalry arrive if necessary. But then that would involve thinking and a bit of effort.rudis_dad

Its not pointless it just like if your childs head was stuck not being funny but a dog is not just a pet its a part of the family yeah and I agree I would go to paper if that was the case not happy dont look

Its not pointless it just like if your childs head was stuck not being funny but a dog is not just a pet its a part of the family yeah and I agree I would go to paper if that was the case not happy dont lookGerrard10

greenscreener wrote:
And you felt it necessary to go to the press because ?

The RSPCA is a charity, they do what they can, how much have you donated to them ?

Your dog was unlucky, get over it.

She felt it necessary because its her dog and she has the right to if noone does qnything to help what would you do if this happened to your child???

[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote:
And you felt it necessary to go to the press because ?
The RSPCA is a charity, they do what they can, how much have you donated to them ?
Your dog was unlucky, get over it.[/p][/quote]She felt it necessary because its her dog and she has the right to if noone does qnything to help what would you do if this happened to your child???Gerrard10

greenscreener wrote:
And you felt it necessary to go to the press because ?

The RSPCA is a charity, they do what they can, how much have you donated to them ?

Your dog was unlucky, get over it.

She felt it necessary because its her dog and she has the right to if noone does qnything to help what would you do if this happened to your child???

It wasn't a child it was a DOG. Dogs are not human beings!!!!

If they had used their brains and got the car jacks in the first place there wouldn't even be a story. But no, instead they act all helpless and start calling the fire brigade. Do you think it would be ok if the fire brigade had attended then someone died in a fire because they were otherwise engaged?

[quote][p][bold]Gerrard10[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote:
And you felt it necessary to go to the press because ?
The RSPCA is a charity, they do what they can, how much have you donated to them ?
Your dog was unlucky, get over it.[/p][/quote]She felt it necessary because its her dog and she has the right to if noone does qnything to help what would you do if this happened to your child???[/p][/quote]It wasn't a child it was a DOG. Dogs are not human beings!!!!
If they had used their brains and got the car jacks in the first place there wouldn't even be a story. But no, instead they act all helpless and start calling the fire brigade. Do you think it would be ok if the fire brigade had attended then someone died in a fire because they were otherwise engaged?GracesDad

greenscreener wrote:
And you felt it necessary to go to the press because ?

The RSPCA is a charity, they do what they can, how much have you donated to them ?

Your dog was unlucky, get over it.

She felt it necessary because its her dog and she has the right to if noone does qnything to help what would you do if this happened to your child???

It wasn't a child it was a DOG. Dogs are not human beings!!!!

If they had used their brains and got the car jacks in the first place there wouldn't even be a story. But no, instead they act all helpless and start calling the fire brigade. Do you think it would be ok if the fire brigade had attended then someone died in a fire because they were otherwise engaged?

And what if its a dog its still family and what everyone gunna die and they shouldnt of needed the car jacks but when a cats up a tree they are there so why not when a dog is trapped

[quote][p][bold]GracesDad[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Gerrard10[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote:
And you felt it necessary to go to the press because ?
The RSPCA is a charity, they do what they can, how much have you donated to them ?
Your dog was unlucky, get over it.[/p][/quote]She felt it necessary because its her dog and she has the right to if noone does qnything to help what would you do if this happened to your child???[/p][/quote]It wasn't a child it was a DOG. Dogs are not human beings!!!!
If they had used their brains and got the car jacks in the first place there wouldn't even be a story. But no, instead they act all helpless and start calling the fire brigade. Do you think it would be ok if the fire brigade had attended then someone died in a fire because they were otherwise engaged?[/p][/quote]And what if its a dog its still family and what everyone gunna die and they shouldnt of needed the car jacks but when a cats up a tree they are there so why not when a dog is trappedGerrard10

greenscreener wrote:
And you felt it necessary to go to the press because ?

The RSPCA is a charity, they do what they can, how much have you donated to them ?

Your dog was unlucky, get over it.

She felt it necessary because its her dog and she has the right to if noone does qnything to help what would you do if this happened to your child???

It wasn't a child it was a DOG. Dogs are not human beings!!!!

If they had used their brains and got the car jacks in the first place there wouldn't even be a story. But no, instead they act all helpless and start calling the fire brigade. Do you think it would be ok if the fire brigade had attended then someone died in a fire because they were otherwise engaged?

And what if its a dog its still family and what everyone gunna die and they shouldnt of needed the car jacks but when a cats up a tree they are there so why not when a dog is trapped

You were the one comparing a dog to a child. Now you've changed your mind and prefer to compare it to a cat because you can't justify your comment.

[quote][p][bold]Gerrard10[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GracesDad[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Gerrard10[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote:
And you felt it necessary to go to the press because ?
The RSPCA is a charity, they do what they can, how much have you donated to them ?
Your dog was unlucky, get over it.[/p][/quote]She felt it necessary because its her dog and she has the right to if noone does qnything to help what would you do if this happened to your child???[/p][/quote]It wasn't a child it was a DOG. Dogs are not human beings!!!!
If they had used their brains and got the car jacks in the first place there wouldn't even be a story. But no, instead they act all helpless and start calling the fire brigade. Do you think it would be ok if the fire brigade had attended then someone died in a fire because they were otherwise engaged?[/p][/quote]And what if its a dog its still family and what everyone gunna die and they shouldnt of needed the car jacks but when a cats up a tree they are there so why not when a dog is trapped[/p][/quote]You were the one comparing a dog to a child. Now you've changed your mind and prefer to compare it to a cat because you can't justify your comment.GracesDad

greenscreener wrote:
And you felt it necessary to go to the press because ?

The RSPCA is a charity, they do what they can, how much have you donated to them ?

Your dog was unlucky, get over it.

She felt it necessary because its her dog and she has the right to if noone does qnything to help what would you do if this happened to your child???

It wasn't a child it was a DOG. Dogs are not human beings!!!!

If they had used their brains and got the car jacks in the first place there wouldn't even be a story. But no, instead they act all helpless and start calling the fire brigade. Do you think it would be ok if the fire brigade had attended then someone died in a fire because they were otherwise engaged?

And what if its a dog its still family and what everyone gunna die and they shouldnt of needed the car jacks but when a cats up a tree they are there so why not when a dog is trapped

You were the one comparing a dog to a child. Now you've changed your mind and prefer to compare it to a cat because you can't justify your comment.

No, I said that a dog is like a child its your family yeah you must not be a dog person with and I said about the cat cause they climb yeah but firemen rescue them whats that about but when a dog gets stuck they cant do anything what a joke

[quote][p][bold]GracesDad[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Gerrard10[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GracesDad[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Gerrard10[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote:
And you felt it necessary to go to the press because ?
The RSPCA is a charity, they do what they can, how much have you donated to them ?
Your dog was unlucky, get over it.[/p][/quote]She felt it necessary because its her dog and she has the right to if noone does qnything to help what would you do if this happened to your child???[/p][/quote]It wasn't a child it was a DOG. Dogs are not human beings!!!!
If they had used their brains and got the car jacks in the first place there wouldn't even be a story. But no, instead they act all helpless and start calling the fire brigade. Do you think it would be ok if the fire brigade had attended then someone died in a fire because they were otherwise engaged?[/p][/quote]And what if its a dog its still family and what everyone gunna die and they shouldnt of needed the car jacks but when a cats up a tree they are there so why not when a dog is trapped[/p][/quote]You were the one comparing a dog to a child. Now you've changed your mind and prefer to compare it to a cat because you can't justify your comment.[/p][/quote]No, I said that a dog is like a child its your family yeah you must not be a dog person with and I said about the cat cause they climb yeah but firemen rescue them whats that about but when a dog gets stuck they cant do anything what a jokeGerrard10

I am surprised the fire brigade didn't come straight out. Then they could go running to the local rag to tell their story. That's what they usually do.

Hey what's up lads your snooker game more important.

I am surprised the fire brigade didn't come straight out. Then they could go running to the local rag to tell their story. That's what they usually do.
Hey what's up lads your snooker game more important.2 for 5p ridesagain

The point is to all you thick numptys anti dog lovers is by going to the press highlights it for the council to do something about it. Before one of your kids get stuck and you ring claims direct before 999. These people are hard working taxpayers they deserve the same service whether its a dog or a child.

The point is to all you thick numptys anti dog lovers is by going to the press highlights it for the council to do something about it. Before one of your kids get stuck and you ring claims direct before 999. These people are hard working taxpayers they deserve the same service whether its a dog or a child.the beaver

the beaver wrote:
The point is to all you thick numptys anti dog lovers is by going to the press highlights it for the council to do something about it. Before one of your kids get stuck and you ring claims direct before 999. These people are hard working taxpayers they deserve the same service whether its a dog or a child.

Why should the council do something about it? Have you ever seen that play park? It is rammed with parents and kids everytime the sun even looks like showing its face. Even last night, in the rain, there were people using it. And no one, as far as I know, has got stuck in the boulders.
What do you think the Council shoud do about it? Should they do the same to every natural rock / boulder fall in their area just in case some random kid / dog gets their foot / hand / arm / leg / head stuck?
The dog got its head stuck. Maybe, the owner should have made sure the dog couldn't get its head that far in - I'm assuming it was on a lead as it should be round there.
The RSPCA inspector was dealing with injured animals. Here's an idea. Try everything you can to get your animal free before tying up scarce resources for something you proved you could resolve yourself. Its an emergency service. As the animal's life wasn't in danger, this doesn't strike me as an emergency.
From a responsible dog owner / lover.

[quote][p][bold]the beaver[/bold] wrote:
The point is to all you thick numptys anti dog lovers is by going to the press highlights it for the council to do something about it. Before one of your kids get stuck and you ring claims direct before 999. These people are hard working taxpayers they deserve the same service whether its a dog or a child.[/p][/quote]Why should the council do something about it? Have you ever seen that play park? It is rammed with parents and kids everytime the sun even looks like showing its face. Even last night, in the rain, there were people using it. And no one, as far as I know, has got stuck in the boulders.
What do you think the Council shoud do about it? Should they do the same to every natural rock / boulder fall in their area just in case some random kid / dog gets their foot / hand / arm / leg / head stuck?
The dog got its head stuck. Maybe, the owner should have made sure the dog couldn't get its head that far in - I'm assuming it was on a lead as it should be round there.
The RSPCA inspector was dealing with injured animals. Here's an idea. Try everything you can to get your animal free before tying up scarce resources for something you proved you could resolve yourself. Its an emergency service. As the animal's life wasn't in danger, this doesn't strike me as an emergency.
From a responsible dog owner / lover.ladysal

the beaver wrote:
The point is to all you thick numptys anti dog lovers is by going to the press highlights it for the council to do something about it. Before one of your kids get stuck and you ring claims direct before 999. These people are hard working taxpayers they deserve the same service whether its a dog or a child.

Try taking your dog to A&E next time it gets hurt and see what they think about your theory.

[quote][p][bold]the beaver[/bold] wrote:
The point is to all you thick numptys anti dog lovers is by going to the press highlights it for the council to do something about it. Before one of your kids get stuck and you ring claims direct before 999. These people are hard working taxpayers they deserve the same service whether its a dog or a child.[/p][/quote]Try taking your dog to A&E next time it gets hurt and see what they think about your theory.GracesDad

GracesDad wrote:
If you think a dog is like a child then I fear for any children you may have. And yes, you are correct, I am not a dog person.

Yeah, you're quite right - most dogs can be trained to obey simple commands, and you can rely on them. Not so with kids.

[quote][p][bold]GracesDad[/bold] wrote:
If you think a dog is like a child then I fear for any children you may have. And yes, you are correct, I am not a dog person.[/p][/quote]Yeah, you're quite right - most dogs can be trained to obey simple commands, and you can rely on them. Not so with kids.rudis_dad

greenscreener wrote:
And you felt it necessary to go to the press because ?

The RSPCA is a charity, they do what they can, how much have you donated to them ?

Your dog was unlucky, get over it.

She felt it necessary because its her dog and she has the right to if noone does qnything to help what would you do if this happened to your child???

It wasn't a child it was a DOG. Dogs are not human beings!!!!

If they had used their brains and got the car jacks in the first place there wouldn't even be a story. But no, instead they act all helpless and start calling the fire brigade. Do you think it would be ok if the fire brigade had attended then someone died in a fire because they were otherwise engaged?

And what if its a dog its still family and what everyone gunna die and they shouldnt of needed the car jacks but when a cats up a tree they are there so why not when a dog is trapped

Er, actually no they don't go to cats up trees, I cracked that one at a mate of mine who's a firefighter and he gave me short shrift about it. Mind you, he was busy at the time - stoking his blazing oil-drum outside Burnley fire station.

[quote][p][bold]Gerrard10[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GracesDad[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Gerrard10[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote:
And you felt it necessary to go to the press because ?
The RSPCA is a charity, they do what they can, how much have you donated to them ?
Your dog was unlucky, get over it.[/p][/quote]She felt it necessary because its her dog and she has the right to if noone does qnything to help what would you do if this happened to your child???[/p][/quote]It wasn't a child it was a DOG. Dogs are not human beings!!!!
If they had used their brains and got the car jacks in the first place there wouldn't even be a story. But no, instead they act all helpless and start calling the fire brigade. Do you think it would be ok if the fire brigade had attended then someone died in a fire because they were otherwise engaged?[/p][/quote]And what if its a dog its still family and what everyone gunna die and they shouldnt of needed the car jacks but when a cats up a tree they are there so why not when a dog is trapped[/p][/quote]Er, actually no they don't go to cats up trees, I cracked that one at a mate of mine who's a firefighter and he gave me short shrift about it. Mind you, he was busy at the time - stoking his blazing oil-drum outside Burnley fire station.rudis_dad

The fire control have got it wrong here. The fire brigade SHOULD of sent an appliance to render humanitarian service. They went to a cow in the canal the other week. Since when have the fire brigade stopped responding to TRAPPED animals?

The fire control have got it wrong here. The fire brigade SHOULD of sent an appliance to render humanitarian service. They went to a cow in the canal the other week. Since when have the fire brigade stopped responding to TRAPPED animals?sniper16

[quote][p][bold]rudis_dad[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GracesDad[/bold] wrote:
If you think a dog is like a child then I fear for any children you may have. And yes, you are correct, I am not a dog person.[/p][/quote]Yeah, you're quite right - most dogs can be trained to obey simple commands, and you can rely on them. Not so with kids.[/p][/quote]You're doing it wrong then. My kids are the most reliable human beings I've ever met.GracesDad

sniper16 wrote:
The fire control have got it wrong here. The fire brigade SHOULD of sent an appliance to render humanitarian service. They went to a cow in the canal the other week. Since when have the fire brigade stopped responding to TRAPPED animals?

Please read the story before trying to sound clever.

"I’m disgusted and upset the RSPCA did not do anything sooner. They rang us just as we got Eric free and said the fire brigade would send an engine."

The same procedure would have been followed with the cow in the canal and the fire brigade turned up, like they would have done with this case if the owner didn't develop some common sense and free the animal.

[quote][p][bold]sniper16[/bold] wrote:
The fire control have got it wrong here. The fire brigade SHOULD of sent an appliance to render humanitarian service. They went to a cow in the canal the other week. Since when have the fire brigade stopped responding to TRAPPED animals?[/p][/quote]Please read the story before trying to sound clever.
"I’m disgusted and upset the RSPCA did not do anything sooner. They rang us just as we got Eric free and said the fire brigade would send an engine."
The same procedure would have been followed with the cow in the canal and the fire brigade turned up, like they would have done with this case if the owner didn't develop some common sense and free the animal.HelmshoreMan2010

greenscreener wrote:
And you felt it necessary to go to the press because ?

The RSPCA is a charity, they do what they can, how much have you donated to them ?

Your dog was unlucky, get over it.

She felt it necessary because its her dog and she has the right to if noone does qnything to help what would you do if this happened to your child???

As a parent and a dog owner I understand the difference between the two, I also have a sense of perspective and am pretty sure I would expect the emergency services to respond more rigorously for one than the other.

I would also not think this trivial matter, which is nothing special when it comes to the things dogs get up to, appropriate for media coverage.

Now, Would you be happy watching your home and family burn and waiting a bit longer while the brigade were busy extracting a pup from between two rocks ?

[quote][p][bold]Gerrard10[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote:
And you felt it necessary to go to the press because ?
The RSPCA is a charity, they do what they can, how much have you donated to them ?
Your dog was unlucky, get over it.[/p][/quote]She felt it necessary because its her dog and she has the right to if noone does qnything to help what would you do if this happened to your child???[/p][/quote]As a parent and a dog owner I understand the difference between the two, I also have a sense of perspective and am pretty sure I would expect the emergency services to respond more rigorously for one than the other.
I would also not think this trivial matter, which is nothing special when it comes to the things dogs get up to, appropriate for media coverage.
Now, Would you be happy watching your home and family burn and waiting a bit longer while the brigade were busy extracting a pup from between two rocks ?greenscreener

greenscreener wrote:
And you felt it necessary to go to the press because ?

The RSPCA is a charity, they do what they can, how much have you donated to them ?

Your dog was unlucky, get over it.

She felt it necessary because its her dog and she has the right to if noone does qnything to help what would you do if this happened to your child???

It wasn't a child it was a DOG. Dogs are not human beings!!!!

If they had used their brains and got the car jacks in the first place there wouldn't even be a story. But no, instead they act all helpless and start calling the fire brigade. Do you think it would be ok if the fire brigade had attended then someone died in a fire because they were otherwise engaged?

And what if its a dog its still family and what everyone gunna die and they shouldnt of needed the car jacks but when a cats up a tree they are there so why not when a dog is trapped

Hello, this was not an episode of Fireman Sam. This is an example of the nanny state where everybody can't help themselves and are always complaining when things don't go as they want.

[quote][p][bold]Gerrard10[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GracesDad[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Gerrard10[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote:
And you felt it necessary to go to the press because ?
The RSPCA is a charity, they do what they can, how much have you donated to them ?
Your dog was unlucky, get over it.[/p][/quote]She felt it necessary because its her dog and she has the right to if noone does qnything to help what would you do if this happened to your child???[/p][/quote]It wasn't a child it was a DOG. Dogs are not human beings!!!!
If they had used their brains and got the car jacks in the first place there wouldn't even be a story. But no, instead they act all helpless and start calling the fire brigade. Do you think it would be ok if the fire brigade had attended then someone died in a fire because they were otherwise engaged?[/p][/quote]And what if its a dog its still family and what everyone gunna die and they shouldnt of needed the car jacks but when a cats up a tree they are there so why not when a dog is trapped[/p][/quote]Hello, this was not an episode of Fireman Sam. This is an example of the nanny state where everybody can't help themselves and are always complaining when things don't go as they want.icannotrace

greenscreener wrote:
And you felt it necessary to go to the press because ?

The RSPCA is a charity, they do what they can, how much have you donated to them ?

Your dog was unlucky, get over it.

She felt it necessary because its her dog and she has the right to if noone does qnything to help what would you do if this happened to your child???

It wasn't a child it was a DOG. Dogs are not human beings!!!!

If they had used their brains and got the car jacks in the first place there wouldn't even be a story. But no, instead they act all helpless and start calling the fire brigade. Do you think it would be ok if the fire brigade had attended then someone died in a fire because they were otherwise engaged?

And what if its a dog its still family and what everyone gunna die and they shouldnt of needed the car jacks but when a cats up a tree they are there so why not when a dog is trapped

Er, actually no they don't go to cats up trees, I cracked that one at a mate of mine who's a firefighter and he gave me short shrift about it. Mind you, he was busy at the time - stoking his blazing oil-drum outside Burnley fire station.

Erm, yes they do go out to cats up trees.

Do a search for 'Operation Tiddles'. The headline reads: "Operation Tiddles: Farcical scene as it takes seven firefighters, a police car and an RSPCA officer THREE HOURS to rescue a cat from a tree"

[quote][p][bold]rudis_dad[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Gerrard10[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GracesDad[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Gerrard10[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote:
And you felt it necessary to go to the press because ?
The RSPCA is a charity, they do what they can, how much have you donated to them ?
Your dog was unlucky, get over it.[/p][/quote]She felt it necessary because its her dog and she has the right to if noone does qnything to help what would you do if this happened to your child???[/p][/quote]It wasn't a child it was a DOG. Dogs are not human beings!!!!
If they had used their brains and got the car jacks in the first place there wouldn't even be a story. But no, instead they act all helpless and start calling the fire brigade. Do you think it would be ok if the fire brigade had attended then someone died in a fire because they were otherwise engaged?[/p][/quote]And what if its a dog its still family and what everyone gunna die and they shouldnt of needed the car jacks but when a cats up a tree they are there so why not when a dog is trapped[/p][/quote]Er, actually no they don't go to cats up trees, I cracked that one at a mate of mine who's a firefighter and he gave me short shrift about it. Mind you, he was busy at the time - stoking his blazing oil-drum outside Burnley fire station.[/p][/quote]Erm, yes they do go out to cats up trees.
Do a search for 'Operation Tiddles'. The headline reads: "Operation Tiddles: Farcical scene as it takes seven firefighters, a police car and an RSPCA officer THREE HOURS to rescue a cat from a tree"Womble

greenscreener wrote:
And you felt it necessary to go to the press because ?

The RSPCA is a charity, they do what they can, how much have you donated to them ?

Your dog was unlucky, get over it.

She felt it necessary because its her dog and she has the right to if noone does qnything to help what would you do if this happened to your child???

It wasn't a child it was a DOG. Dogs are not human beings!!!!

If they had used their brains and got the car jacks in the first place there wouldn't even be a story. But no, instead they act all helpless and start calling the fire brigade. Do you think it would be ok if the fire brigade had attended then someone died in a fire because they were otherwise engaged?

And what if its a dog its still family and what everyone gunna die and they shouldnt of needed the car jacks but when a cats up a tree they are there so why not when a dog is trapped

Er, actually no they don't go to cats up trees, I cracked that one at a mate of mine who's a firefighter and he gave me short shrift about it. Mind you, he was busy at the time - stoking his blazing oil-drum outside Burnley fire station.

Erm, yes they do go out to cats up trees.

Do a search for 'Operation Tiddles'. The headline reads: &quot;Operation Tiddles: Farcical scene as it takes seven firefighters, a police car and an RSPCA officer THREE HOURS to rescue a cat from a tree"

I did.
In a nutshell:
- the cat had been in the tree for 48 hours
- the RSPCA called the fire brigade
- the fire brigade was needed because there was no ladder in the vicinity which could be used. I.e, they weren't there for the cat, they were there because someone needed to climb the tree and needed a hydraulic lift in order to do so.

So yes, the Fire Brigade will get involved with animal rescues. But not to rescue the animal, simply to provide the humans with additional support and equipment.

[quote][p][bold]Womble[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]rudis_dad[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Gerrard10[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GracesDad[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Gerrard10[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote:
And you felt it necessary to go to the press because ?
The RSPCA is a charity, they do what they can, how much have you donated to them ?
Your dog was unlucky, get over it.[/p][/quote]She felt it necessary because its her dog and she has the right to if noone does qnything to help what would you do if this happened to your child???[/p][/quote]It wasn't a child it was a DOG. Dogs are not human beings!!!!
If they had used their brains and got the car jacks in the first place there wouldn't even be a story. But no, instead they act all helpless and start calling the fire brigade. Do you think it would be ok if the fire brigade had attended then someone died in a fire because they were otherwise engaged?[/p][/quote]And what if its a dog its still family and what everyone gunna die and they shouldnt of needed the car jacks but when a cats up a tree they are there so why not when a dog is trapped[/p][/quote]Er, actually no they don't go to cats up trees, I cracked that one at a mate of mine who's a firefighter and he gave me short shrift about it. Mind you, he was busy at the time - stoking his blazing oil-drum outside Burnley fire station.[/p][/quote]Erm, yes they do go out to cats up trees.
Do a search for 'Operation Tiddles'. The headline reads: "Operation Tiddles: Farcical scene as it takes seven firefighters, a police car and an RSPCA officer THREE HOURS to rescue a cat from a tree"[/p][/quote]I did.
In a nutshell:
- the cat had been in the tree for 48 hours
- the RSPCA called the fire brigade
- the fire brigade was needed because there was no ladder in the vicinity which could be used. I.e, they weren't there for the cat, they were there because someone needed to climb the tree and needed a hydraulic lift in order to do so.
So yes, the Fire Brigade will get involved with animal rescues. But not to rescue the animal, simply to provide the humans with additional support and equipment.ladysal

greenscreener wrote:
And you felt it necessary to go to the press because ?

The RSPCA is a charity, they do what they can, how much have you donated to them ?

Your dog was unlucky, get over it.

Correct me if I am wrong. But the average pay of a RSPCA inspector is 30k per year

[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote:
And you felt it necessary to go to the press because ?
The RSPCA is a charity, they do what they can, how much have you donated to them ?
Your dog was unlucky, get over it.[/p][/quote]Correct me if I am wrong. But the average pay of a RSPCA inspector is 30k per yearmark anthony

greenscreener wrote:
And you felt it necessary to go to the press because ?

The RSPCA is a charity, they do what they can, how much have you donated to them ?

Your dog was unlucky, get over it.

Correct me if I am wrong. But the average pay of a RSPCA inspector is 30k per year

No idea if you are right or wrong, but I fail to see the relevance, if I say - the RSPCA is a charity that can only afford to employ a limited number of specialist staff - does that make you feel better ? do you have a point to make ?

[quote][p][bold]mark anthony[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote:
And you felt it necessary to go to the press because ?
The RSPCA is a charity, they do what they can, how much have you donated to them ?
Your dog was unlucky, get over it.[/p][/quote]Correct me if I am wrong. But the average pay of a RSPCA inspector is 30k per year[/p][/quote]No idea if you are right or wrong, but I fail to see the relevance, if I say - the RSPCA is a charity that can only afford to employ a limited number of specialist staff - does that make you feel better ? do you have a point to make ?greenscreener

I hope the dog is ok,that the stones are spaced further out and that you bunch of half-wits realise that this couple would've faced a possible prison sentence if they had left the poor thing there? How many of you geniuses would've thought immediately "ah! car jack"...especially if you had gone on foot???.. I'm glad it's gone in the paper,because it has brought people's attention to a potential problem for other dogs!

I hope the dog is ok,that the stones are spaced further out and that you bunch of half-wits realise that this couple would've faced a possible prison sentence if they had left the poor thing there? How many of you geniuses would've thought immediately "ah! car jack"...especially if you had gone on foot???.. I'm glad it's gone in the paper,because it has brought people's attention to a potential problem for other dogs!stressed'68

stressed'68 wrote:
I hope the dog is ok,that the stones are spaced further out and that you bunch of half-wits realise that this couple would've faced a possible prison sentence if they had left the poor thing there? How many of you geniuses would've thought immediately &quot;ah! car jack"...especially if you had gone on foot???.. I'm glad it's gone in the paper,because it has brought people's attention to a potential problem for other dogs!

Not surprised you are stressed if that's your reaction to this.

Calm down and get a bit of perspective.

But do feel free to take some hazard warning signs into the park and place them anywhere two objects may be between 10 to 20 cms apart.

I suggest fences, trees (branches or roots), rocks, walls ......

[quote][p][bold]stressed'68[/bold] wrote:
I hope the dog is ok,that the stones are spaced further out and that you bunch of half-wits realise that this couple would've faced a possible prison sentence if they had left the poor thing there? How many of you geniuses would've thought immediately "ah! car jack"...especially if you had gone on foot???.. I'm glad it's gone in the paper,because it has brought people's attention to a potential problem for other dogs![/p][/quote]Not surprised you are stressed if that's your reaction to this.
Calm down and get a bit of perspective.
But do feel free to take some hazard warning signs into the park and place them anywhere two objects may be between 10 to 20 cms apart.
I suggest fences, trees (branches or roots), rocks, walls ......greenscreener

[quote][p][bold]GracesDad[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]rudis_dad[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GracesDad[/bold] wrote:
If you think a dog is like a child then I fear for any children you may have. And yes, you are correct, I am not a dog person.[/p][/quote]Yeah, you're quite right - most dogs can be trained to obey simple commands, and you can rely on them. Not so with kids.[/p][/quote]You're doing it wrong then. My kids are the most reliable human beings I've ever met.[/p][/quote]Well they would be, wouldn't they? Oh, the irony...rudis_dad