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(In this week's round of OP changes, Kirino kicks Kyousuke and he goes flying, and he literally "gives up the ghost" while Manami tries to shove it back in. Also, Kuroneko sitting at Kirino's computer.)

Spoiler for Very Rough Summary:

So in today's episode, the Video Game Club decides the new members are going to produce a new game and enter it into a contest. The two girls are enlisted, and Kyousuke volunteers to help. Kyousuke runs into Akagi (imouto) at the Library (book store?) checking on some BL, while he is looking on some books for advice on game creation. She chastises him rather harshly for not being of much use, but he's used to much harsher criticism from you-know-who, so decides to accept it and find something he can do to help. When her BL book is exposed, he starts teasing her a bit about it, and she asks him if he's interested in that sort of thing -- somehow there's a line to be drawn between showing he accepts her hobby and her having him embrace it himself. Eventually, he asks her if she gets along with her brother, which she flatly denies, but he remembers her sobbing thanks over the phone from the other day, which she insists he must forget.

Later at home Kyousuke's thinking of Kirino, and notices the Sis x Sis box, so the next day at the club he proposes: "Let's make an eroge!" much to the shock of all the other club members. Sena objects that they shouldn't be making an eroge in High School, but the President -- being a comrade-in-arms -- won't object. Sena continues her outrage and tries to solicit Kuroneko's agreement, but surprisingly she says that she's fine with it if it's what Kyousuke wants to do. She just doesn't know about "those sorts of scenes" from a guy's perspective, to which Kyousuke says "he'll help"... which causes a huge misunderstanding. Looks like that idea is out.

Later on, Kyousuke sees Kuroneko eating her lunch alone in the courtyard, and he and Manami look on in concern before moving along...

Back to the club room, Sena presents her proposal to make an RPG game. Despite the complexity of making a good balanced battle system, she seems quite confident that they can do it well. Sena thinks things are going well for her plan, when suddenly Kuroneko drops a huge stack of papers in front of everyone and presents her proposal of a NVL game. But unlike Sena, Kuroneko doesn't seem to have that much confidence, when Kyousuke decides to step in and vouch for Kuroneko's skills. Sena starts a little argument accusing Kuroneko's work of basically being self-gratifying (a work only for her), but this provokes Kuroneko's "black mode", and she goes into a rant for two minutes about doujin artists first satisfying themselves in the creation process and devoting 100% of themselves to their work, and it basically culminates in (roughly) "If they're going to accuse this of being a masturbatory work, then I'll show them one hell of a masturbation scene". Innuendo intended... She then catches herself realizing she said something extremely daring... but anyway, suffice it say, the club decided unanimously on Kuroneko's project. When Sena questions it, the president shows the contents of her disc, which are full-to-the-max of BL concepts and innuendo. She wanted to make a BL RPG, of course. After losing the vote, the club president gives her an ultimatum to either help Kuroneko with her game, or not come to the club anymore... and from that day forward, she never came again.

Some time later, back at Kyousuke's house, Kuroneko is lying on his bed with her laptop working on her novel and invites Kyousuke over to ask for his opinion. He immediately thinks this is a bad idea, but she bites back that he's willing to play an eroge with his sister but not write a novel game with her. Kirino told her. "Nii-san, let's play a game together", she says... He wanders over and tells her that she should be a bit more leery of doing things that would cause a boy to misunderstand, "unless... you like me?" "I do. I like you as much as your sister does." Of course, Kyousuke totally misses the point here. Later, Kuroneko asks him whether he'd prefer to be called Senpai or Nii-san, and Kyousuke chooses Senpai since Nii-san is a bit weird coming from someone who isn't a sibling. But Kuroneko chooses Nii-san all the same, claiming it's more interesting, and she teases him a bit.

All of a sudden, though, Kyousuke discovers a bug in the game, and after investigation with the rest of the club members they are concerned that given the amount of bugs they won't be able to complete the game in time for the contest. Kuroneko runs off to Sena's classroom. She approaches her to ask for her help in fixing the bugs, since Sena's earlier demo demonstrated that she had great programming skills. Kuroneko bows her head and begs for Sena's cooperation in front of all her classmates, which causes her to be embarrassed and go outside. Sena asks why she'd go that far to ask for her help, and she explains that she learned from a "hated friend" about never giving up on the things you decide to do, but the most important thing here was working together with a friend. Sena asks whether the data's in the classroom, but when Kuroneko asks if she's willing to help out, she says she's not helping out, but they'll make the game together.

Basically, all's well that ends well -- the two work together at super-speed, with Kyousuke helping out as a tester, and they made the deadline... and it looks like they even won the prize... for "Best of Kuso-ge"... ("Best Awful Game", basically.)

So basically this week was about further developing Kuroneko's character, showing her gain confidence through her interactions with Kyousuke, and perhaps falling for him even more. We also see her develop a friendship with Sena (another fellow "Otaku" of a different flavour) building a little bit on what she learned through her interactions with Kirino (about appreciating other people's strengths and the value of camaraderie in spite of differences). Kyousuke was worried that Kuroneko'd be all alone and unable to make friends, but he discovers in the end that his fears are unfounded. (I'd say that he's been pretty important to her in more ways than he realizes, and he's as clueless about her feelings as he is about Kirino's.)

Next time is the last episode, but according to the title of course, "not".

Edit: I think the main thing I missed in my first viewing but see now was the connection between the reason she's willing to ask for Sena's help, and the way she's behaving with Kyousuke. She doesn't want to lose to Kirino, whether it's in Kirino's remarkable aptitude at everything she does (and so the need to not fail at making the game), or her relationship with Kyousuke (hence why she's even calling him Nii-san now). She surely knew when Kyousuke suggested an eroge that it was sort of in memory of Kirino, but she agreed to go along with it anyway because she's okay with playing the substitute-sister for now if it means staying close to him. But I don't think it's out of pure rivalry to Kirino, but more out of a sort of envy/jealousy of what Kirino has and I think we can safely say some level of feelings for Kyousuke. And, of course, it's no surprise that she has better insight into Kirino's feelings for Kyousuke than either of them have (or will admit to having). I think I understand now the way the story is headed, as this episode fills in a lot of gaps.

I know I've said this before, but the complete lack of Kirino really boosts my enjoyment of this series.

Spoiler for Ep 14:

Because really, Kuroneko is much better as a main character than her. Her sheer determination in her rivalry with Kirino, as well as the scene at the end that shows how far she's been since her first appearance, realizing the importance of friends, is really pleasing to watch.

The best part for me is the scene in the room though, it really speaks volumes about her character especially in relation to Kyousuke. First of all, let's get this out the way: DEM LEGS. And with that kneesocks! Seriously Kyousuke, why on earth do you reject her offer to rub her legs? But yeah, I loved her response when Kyousuke asked, "so you do like me?" and she said "as much as your sister does." Kyousuke being the dense harem male protagonist fails to realize his sexual tension with Kirino, which is at least as thick as his skull, and thus missed Kuroneko outright confessing to him right there.

The phrasing is really good too, because it also shows that Kuroneko realizes that the greatest obstacle to Kyousuke is Kirino, and it looks like the rivalry doesn't stop at aptitude and achievements, but more importantly for Kyousuke's affections as well. The part where she asks which is better, calling him nii-san or senpai, and ultimately deciding to call him nii-san when they're alone really clinches it for me.

The rest of the scenes are pretty good too, Sena brings out the laughs as usual with her Homo-RPG (if she fails as a programmer, a career as a salesman will be good for her, that's one amazing sell she does while concealing the true nature of her product) and obvious brocon tendencies.

And kudos to Hanazawa Kana for great work as usual, my nutbladder is all but burst when she said "nii-san, want to play a game with me?", and that rant filled with her saying onani is simply glorious. If I have a complaint, it's that the absence of Saori is really missed, but overall it's very enjoyable and I'm looking forward to a re-watch later tonight.

Another excellent episode. This anime has been so damn good ever since Kirino disappeared it feels like I'm watching a totally different show.

The reason I enjoy these episodes so much isn't solely because Kuroneko stole the spotlight, even the dialogues, drama and humor seem better than the in the rest of the series. Are my Kuroneko googles blinding me? The homo-RPG was hilarious, and Kuroneko's speech was superb (first time I've heard anybody say "onani" so much in such a short time :lol . I had a smile on my face throughout most of the episode.

The best scene was the one taking place in Kyousuke's bedroom. Ruri teased him masterfully, not only through words but through body language too. I would have totally rubbed that foot. Her "Then I'll call you Nii-san when we're alone" was the coup de grace. Oh god.

I usually couldn't care less about pairings war, but if Kyousuke chooses Kirino over Ruri, I'm gonna rage hard.

The whole idea of the project was to build teamwork between Akagi and Kuroneko in making a game together but I can't help but think that having both of their ideas put in a competition where the rest of the club votes which is better would only cause further rifts between an already dysfunctional relationship. It was only sheer coincidence that Kuroneko's game happens to have a lot of bugs in it that only Akagi could fix that managed to make them work together.

Other than that this episode was quite entertaining. I was pissing myself when Akakgi revealed how messed up her game was and it's sweet that Kirino has had such a positive impact on Kuroneko.

Anyway, was that a Tohno Shiki reference at the end?

The icing on the cake is that they end up winning the shitty game award instead. XD

I don't know if it's seiyuu work, but I always find the girls' impression of each other pretty flawless (when Sena does that Kuroneko impression in an attempt to dissuade Ruri from making an eroge). xp/

Again, the new eps show that the lack of Kirino + more Kuroneko + more Sena = more win.

As said, i trade any girl in the series for a Kuroneko only episode, well Sena was in it too, not that i mind about it. And the title exactly fits the episode well... especially during Kuroneko x Kyousuke scene on Kyousuke's room. Being invited to be next to Kuroneko on the bed.. i could only wish if its me being in the room instead of Kyousuke at that time. I would be a happy guy, to be beside Kuroneko... and to be treated like a slave? I srsly don't mind if its Kuroneko. I would rub and massage that leg of her anytime anyday shiawase desu~

The part when Kuroneko said about loving Kyousuke as much as his imouto loves him, i can see how much Kuroneko loves Kyousuke there. And i'm glad Kyousuke was being clueless about it, and for once i praised him for not understanding Kuroneko's reply, when i would usually rage about it on many occasions during previous eps, like when Tamura invited him to sleep on her lap. This way, it would create more beautiful scenes between Kuroneko and Kyousuke in the future, though we are left with 1 more ep to go. Kinda hope that they would extend the series into a 2nd season, to end the whole things between Kyousuke and the girls... that would be perfect for me.

Overall episode was perfect.. i don't see why this episode should be rated any lower than 10. Kuroneko is so delicious in this episode, especially when she was lying on the bed with the school uniform. This feeling might be diff if she wore the usual goth loli outfit... kinda like lessening her charm there. Thats why Kuroneko in school uniform gets 10/10 from me.

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Originally Posted by Kanon

The best scene was the one taking place in Kyousuke's bedroom. Ruri teased him masterfully, not only through words but through body language too. I would have totally rubbed that foot. Her "Then I'll call you Nii-san when we're alone" was the coup de grace. Oh god.

I usually couldn't care less about pairings war, but if Kyousuke chooses Kirino over Ruri, I'm gonna rage hard.

Oh wow I must admit the humor in this episode especially with Akagi's homo fetish and even using the club members as models for the characters in the game was just priceless.

Never have I heard a girl use the word masturbation in a Non-Hentai before in my life. ^_^

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I'm nitpicking here, but "Chiba's Fallen Saint" in the last scene is a mistranslation. Even though it has the same writing as Chiba as in Chiba Prefecture, Kuroneko reads it as "Senyou" (volume 4 chapter 3 chatroom scene), meaning "thousand leaves".

A pretty good episode overall. Some great moments like in Kyousuke's room where Kuroneko really stepped things up . Of course she probably should have put the "I like you" a bit differently since putting it at the same level as Kirino won't really get through to Kyousuke. Though maybe she's still working on building up things between them before she really makes it fully clear to him.

Maybe one of the best parts was where Kyousuke came up with the eroge project and Kuroneko was actually willing to do it if he told her to . Of course when he talked about helping out with the h-scenes she blew up .

Should be good moving towards the last of these episodes.

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Originally Posted by Haak

The whole idea of the project was to build teamwork between Akagi and Kuroneko in making a game together but I can't help but think that having both of their ideas put in a competition where the rest of the club votes which is better would only cause further rifts between an already dysfunctional relationship. It was only sheer coincidence that Kuroneko's game happens to have a lot of bugs in it that only Akagi could fix that managed to make them work together.

Other than that this episode was quite entertaining. I was pissing myself when Akakgi revealed how messed up her game was and it's sweet that Kirino has had such a positive impact on Kuroneko.

Anyway, was that a Tohno Shiki reference at the end?

The icing on the cake is that they end up winning the shitty game award instead. XD

Yeah they really did luck out there. Really having them compete and then trying to work on the project that beat out the losers....While obviously Kyousuke's idea about just doing an eroge didn't work out it was a good idea in terms of choosing a different project and thus avoid issues of competition.