Conservatives are highly overrepresented online, even on "liberal" sites. Something about near total anonymity seems to attract people who love to spout hateful, anti-social garbage.

Trailltrader:Prog's have been told this over and over again. And you still don't believe it.

Told what? That we must be pants-shiattingly terrified of everything and everybody in the world around us at all times and spend hundreds or thousands of dollars to arm ourselves against the infinitesimal chance that something bad will happen to us that guns could solve instead of make worse?

Trailltrader:Prog's have been told this over and over again. And you still don't believe it.

OK so lets try this real world example: someone in your family gets mugged, and afterwards you think "Gee, if I'd only had a gun".

Welcome to the NRA, we've been protecting your firearm rights since 1889, and we're the oldest civil rights organization in the world.

Progs? Wasn't that something to do with the Power Rangers?

I'm not surprised at that poll. It's a common delusion among conservatives that liberals are anti-gun. It's more like anti-crazy people getting guns, which the NRA is all for. Too bad the NRA has been taken over by gun manufacturers and zealots.

The National Shooting Sports Foundation represents gun manufacturers, their literature actually comes with most new guns in this country. The NRA represents ~5% of gun owners (yet has become a convenient, pejorative way to refer to anyone who doesn't espouse any and all gun control proposals from Bloomberg et. al....). The NSSF represents gun manufacturers.

The National Shooting Sports Foundation represents gun manufacturers, their literature actually comes with most new guns in this country. The NRA represents ~5% of gun owners (yet has become a convenient, pejorative way to refer to anyone who doesn't espouse any and all gun control proposals from Bloomberg et. al....). The NSSF represents gun manufacturers.

enry:Fark It: enry: Lemme guess. This was a online poll. Wonder if info about the poll got passed around sites where those concerned about 'gun rights' might have found out and been a bit over represented.

The National Shooting Sports Foundation represents gun manufacturers, their literature actually comes with most new guns in this country. The NRA represents ~5% of gun owners (yet has become a convenient, pejorative way to refer to anyone who doesn't espouse any and all gun control proposals from Bloomberg et. al....). The NSSF represents gun manufacturers.

So....what's the point? That liberals aren't the horrible gun-grabbers that everyone seems to think they are? That there's a big damn difference between saying people should have to get background checks before buying a gun, and saying that people shouldn't be allowed to buy guns at all?

Nah, forget that. Just keep being afraid of the "liberals" that live in your head. They're much less complex and nuanced than the ones in the real world.

Glock has their own "Glock Sport Shooting Foundation." And they're Glock, they don't really need to lobby, they have 60% of the law enforcement market and a similarly huge market share in the civilian world.

revrendjim:I'm a liberal gun owner who used to be an NRA member but quit 10 years ago when they went insane.

I tend to be on the liberal side and I own a few guns but I never felt the need to join a gun club or gun lobbying organization.//I guess I just don't feel as oppressed or threatened as many other gun owners.

Fark It:enry: Fark It: enry: Lemme guess. This was a online poll. Wonder if info about the poll got passed around sites where those concerned about 'gun rights' might have found out and been a bit over represented.

The National Shooting Sports Foundation represents gun manufacturers, their literature actually comes with most new guns in this country. The NRA represents ~5% of gun owners (yet has become a convenient, pejorative way to refer to anyone who doesn't espouse any and all gun control proposals from Bloomberg et. al....). The NSSF represents gun manufacturers.

Uh huh. You keep believing that. You're wrong, but go right ahead.

The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) is a national trade association for the firearms industry

The NRA gets a small chunk of its money from industry groups, including the firearms industry, as well as other sporting goods:

revrendjim:I'm a liberal gun owner who used to be an NRA member but quit 10 years ago when they went insane.

Same here. The NRA went from an attitude recognizing that firearms are deadly weapons that require training to handle responsibly to "OMG GUNS ARE SO COOL! EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE A GUN! ANY GUN REGULATIONS = NAZI GERMANY! IF YOUR DOCTOR ASKS YOU ABOUT GUNS IN THE HOUSE HE IS A NAZI AND SHOULD LOSE HIS RIGHT TO PRACTICE MEDICINE!"

PreMortem:Trailltrader: Prog's have been told this over and over again. And you still don't believe it.

OK so lets try this real world example: someone in your family gets mugged, and afterwards you think "Gee, if I'd only had a gun".

Welcome to the NRA, we've been protecting your firearm rights since 1889, and we're the oldest civil rights organization in the world.

Progs? Wasn't that something to do with the Power Rangers?

I'm not surprised at that poll. It's a common delusion among conservatives that liberals are anti-gun. It's more like anti-crazy people getting guns, which the NRA is all for. Too bad the NRA has been taken over by gun manufacturers and zealots.

Itstoearly:It's almost as if.... and bear with me here... this country isn't as divided and 2 sided as news outlets want you to think, and very few people are actually on the extreme sides of an issue.

You are mistaken. I have been assured that -- despite believing that same sex marriage should be legal, that women should be free to determine their own reproductive health choices (up to and including abortion), that health care should be available and affordable to all (and that affordable health care should include coverage for the aforementioned reproductive health choices) and that demands for reduction of the federal deficit that are coupled with refusals to increase revenue rates are indicative of mental illness -- that I am a "bagger" because I also believe that a complete ban on civilian ownership of .50 caliber rifles (including mandatory surrender of currently owned rifles) is not a viable means of reducing violent crime.

Trailltrader:Prog's have been told this over and over again. And you still don't believe it.

OK so lets try this real world example: someone in your family gets mugged, and afterwards you think "Gee, if I'd only had a gun".

Welcome to the NRA, we've been protecting your firearm rights since 1889, and we're the oldest civil rights organization in the world.

Yeah, but in the real world I don't know anyone that regularly carries a gun around, except my brother who kept one with him when he was stationed in Alaska, and in his case it was more for protection from bears. Despite so fee people I know carrying, I've never heard of anyone being mugged. Hell, I've walked around downtown New York City and Chicago unarmed by myself at night and have not even FELT threatened. The United States, by and large, just isn't that dangerous a place.