Taski wrote:I have a amd 1090t as my cpu, and I was just wondering if thats more so holding back my fps in MMO's or would the 660 make a decent jump for improvement?

It depends on the MMO, your graphical settings and your screen resolution:

The 1090t isn't as fast in games as any Sandy Bridge i5 or newer, but it's still a decent performer. The 560Ti will probably need some settings turned down in things like the new WoW expansion or GW2 at 1080p, and a 660 will probably give you a slightly smoother experience. It also depends on your expectations; The 1090t is never going to be as smooth as something like a 2500K - your minimum framerate will be lower and it will definitely stutter more. Maintaining a silky-smooth 60fps at v-sync is going to be difficult in a modern game with any AMD chip. On the other hand, the benchmarks do clearly show that something like a 1090t will still give you high average framerates with all the detail cranked up. If you are the sort of person who doesn't mind playing without vsync, and can tolerate a few more moments of stutter I see no reason for you to upgrade your CPU.

Personally, I wouldn't waste your money on the upgrade to a 660 - the measured FPS figures make it a 25% upgrade, the 99th-percentile 'perceived' upgrade means it'll feel a bit better than that, but still not enough to justify the cost in my opinion. Save for a GTX670 or if money is tight, the HD7950 offers better performance/dollar assuming your PSU and case can handle one.

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Time frames are much better....but average fps, depends on game and settings. Ofc they will be higher but not necessarily a lot better. Imo an upgrade would be a nice custom cooled OCed 660Ti.....can you stretch your budget that far? If not better wait a few more months for AMD to launch the new 8000 series.

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The 8850/70 series looks like they are going to be a fantastic performers. But the 660 is a bit better then a 560, but as previously stated i would save a few more bucks and do a 660ti or 7950. If you are in a i have to have it now situation.

Oskiee wrote:To be honest, going to from a 560 Ti to a 660 Ti was a big difference for me. The 560 is a really great card, but the 660 just does everything better.

GTX 660 =/= GTX 660 Ti. It defnitely looks like either the 660 or 660 Ti would be an improvement, but the 660 Ti is a bigger step up (especially an OC model), and the Ti carries an extra premium.

As for the system improvement, it does depend on what MMO, but the 1090t (AMD Phenom II X4 @ 3.4 GHz, right?) looks like a pretty solid CPU, too. I would start by confiming system specs and getting the RAM spec, then check the games, and then see if there are any issues popping up. Since both CPU and GPU look pretty strong, I personally would rather wait and save the money to do a system-wide refresh.

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Conveniently, TR's GTX 660 review has numbers for all the cards mentioned. No MMOs are explicitly mentioned in this review but any card that does BF3 okay should be more than enough for a current gen MMO (though GW2 might be pushing it a bit). From the looks of it, both variants of the 660 are definitely solid upgrades over the 560Ti but not phenomenally so. If you're really looking to upgrade, I think look for one under $250 (especially overclocked variants) with the Assassin's Creed 3 bonus.

As for the 1090T, it's still a solid (but aging) CPU. For a little extra boost, you can try overclocking if you haven't already. IIRC, it wasn't a great OC chip but free performance is free performance... assuming you can keep it stable.