Steve Jobs was interviewed for "An Immigrant's Gift" on December 19, 1991, in Redwood City, California. Here is more of that interview from the files of the Dr. Juran "An Immigrant's Gift" Archival Project, research and dissemination of information from the interviews conducted about Joseph Juran for the PBS Special, An Immigrant's Gift.

STEVE JOBS: . . .I think Joe Juran has clearly had those experiences [being criticized and listening to own drummer] and become very internally driven. And I think he felt the bedrock of his -- of the truth of his pursuits. And that's what kept him going. . . I think that the great satisfaction that he got from Japan did not end in the '50's. I think he probably looks at Japan as something that he helped nurture along. And as every decade has passed, he sees his ideas blossoming even more. So I'm sure he gets tremendous satisfaction from having injected a very important ingredient into the early post-war culture of Japan, and he probably sees that in, you know, in every branch and leaf of a fairly large tree. And I think what he's trying to do now is to make sure that he -- he gets that into the -- into the future culture of American industry as it rebuilds itself. And I think if he is successful, which I think he is on the verge of being, that in his last breath, he will feel comfortable, knowing in the decades to come, that his work will get recognition.

My Take-away: Steve Jobs is talking about Joseph Juran -- but it is easy to read into these sentiments and imagine Steve Jobs reflecting on his own "fairly large tree" -- make that an Apple tree -- and how he has shaped the world.