I suppose repeating Channel Line Up Fix is sometimes enough to fix S03.
However, there is a chance that it will just give you an S03 error during the loading phase. If that happens you're stuck in an endless loop and will have to restore from an image.

This happened to me and I got stuck in Guided set up loop so I rather tell everyone to Clear and delete program info.
It's a lot simpler to fix broken season passes then pulling the drive for reimage (if you have an image) and deal with all the lost shows, pairing info, upset wife.

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Originally Posted by pninen

Well I recently had the S03 error, and I fixed it by doing the channel line up fix, and it worked for me. It rebooted twice and then it was all good.

PS: People have asked if this only happens on drives 1TB and above. The answer is no. It happened on my 750GB drive. TiVo told me the drive was bad so I bought a brand new 2TB drive from weaknees, and had the problem again in just a few weeks. Now I keep it under control by unplugging the internet connection for >48 hours every now and then.

Big pain in the ass.

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Likewise, I used the Channel Lineup fix the last time my HD hit the S03 problem, and I had no problems at all.

My series 3 TiVo is now in the mode (again!) where it keeps telling me program info is going to run out Oct 16th. This message shows up at the bottom of the "Record by" screen, for example. Today it popped up a message that said the same thing.

This conflicts with the program info I am able to see inside my TiVo. If I go to the record by screen, and look at the program info, I can see program info going out thru Oct 24th.

This situation has persisted for several days.

Recent network connections have "succeeded", according to the network screen. Last GC was October 2. Quite some time ago.

Earlier I had the ethernet cable unplugged for about 60 hours. No GC. After that I plugged in the cable, and forced a connection. No improvement. The connection "succeeded", according to the network screen, but the TiVo still thinks its info ends on Oct 16th, so obviously processing the data didn't really succeed.

I unplugged the cable again, and it has been unplugged another 60 hours so far. No change. No GC. Still thinks its gonna run out Oct 16th.

I'm considering another redo of channel setup. Last time I did that it made the thing work for another 2 or 3 days before it started complaining again. I really would prefer not to do the clear everything, because I really dislike reentering all the season passes.

Any thoughts on how to get TiVo to fix this problem? Do we all need to show up and camp out on their lawn for a few weeks or what? Send several hundred phone ordered pizzas? What do you think would do it?

Ok, I got past the Guided Setup loop (Whoop! - thanks Trackie) on my original drives WK 1TB Int + 1TB Ext. What test would you guys like me to run now? Remember it is still stuck in an S03 error, unless the Guided Setup loop fix temporarily brings it out--haven't tried yet.

I think if you delete your todo list and all your season passes it will fis the s03 error in a few days

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Originally Posted by ravingfans

Ok, I got past the Guided Setup loop (Whoop! - thanks Trackie) on my original drives WK 1TB Int + 1TB Ext. What test would you guys like me to run now? Remember it is still stuck in an S03 error, unless the Guided Setup loop fix temporarily brings it out--haven't tried yet.

I think if you delete your todo list and all your season passes it will fis the s03 error in a few days

To get past the guided setup loop, have to run fakecall.tcl with the 3 additional lines recommended by the link to another forum provided by Trackie . This sets the stat/GeneralConfig Configured variable to "1 257 513". 1 is for (Satellite?) Guided Setup completed, 257 is for Phone Setup call completed, and 513 is for Network Setup call completed. After restarting, the Tivo complains about the toll-free number changing, but that is easily changed by telling it to connect via network connection.

Since I went back to my old disk setup as a test, it was mainly with the intention of running tests to help diagnose the S03 error.

Since I last did the channel fix and disconnect from the internet. The GC updated after about 3 days. Then hung on that date. I gave it 3 days, disconnected the internet. On the third day GC updated. The last GC update (result from internet disconnect) last Wed appeared stuck, but yesterday evening I noticed that GC HAD updated on its own!!!!

So the GC clock is ticking again 8Oct2011.

As of Wed 12OCT2011, GC was had not changed from 8Oct2011.
So I disconnected TiVo from the internet.
This morning GC date is Thursday 13OCT2011.

Now I'm wondering if I was premature on disconnecting the internet... as GC did update on its own last Saturday.

My series 3 TiVo is now in the mode (again!) where it keeps telling me program info is going to run out Oct 16th. This message shows up at the bottom of the "Record by" screen, for example. Today it popped up a message that said the same thing.

This conflicts with the program info I am able to see inside my TiVo. If I go to the record by screen, and look at the program info, I can see program info going out thru Oct 24th.

This situation has persisted for several days.

Recent network connections have "succeeded", according to the network screen. Last GC was October 2. Quite some time ago.

Earlier I had the ethernet cable unplugged for about 60 hours. No GC. After that I plugged in the cable, and forced a connection. No improvement. The connection "succeeded", according to the network screen, but the TiVo still thinks its info ends on Oct 16th, so obviously processing the data didn't really succeed.

I unplugged the cable again, and it has been unplugged another 60 hours so far. No change. No GC. Still thinks its gonna run out Oct 16th.

I'm considering another redo of channel setup. Last time I did that it made the thing work for another 2 or 3 days before it started complaining again. I really would prefer not to do the clear everything, because I really dislike reentering all the season passes.

Any thoughts on how to get TiVo to fix this problem? Do we all need to show up and camp out on their lawn for a few weeks or what? Send several hundred phone ordered pizzas? What do you think would do it?

I would do the channel fix. That forces a GC, although it will take more than an hour, perhaps much more.

Then I would force an update, and after it disconnects from the Tivo server, disconnect from the internet. Check daily to see when GC updates. With any luck, with what I'm experiencing lately, it should update within a day or so. Then connect again for another update, and wash, rinse, and repeat.

No thoughts on how to get Tivo to fix this. I've owned numerous Tivo's since 2000 but I am getting disillusioned.

Could you let this set up bake for a week or so? Leave network connection plugged in & let it connect daily.
Also, your single 2TB set up was full of recordings. Can you make sure this set up has ~same number of season passes and is doing lots of recording?

Hopefully GC will get stuck even though your daily calls succeed...

.. I found a spare 1TB Seagate Drive, and will install it in my 2nd TivoHD with 2GB+ swap as soon as I have a chance to install my DIY prom kit.

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Originally Posted by ravingfans

To get past the guided setup loop, have to run fakecall.tcl with the 3 additional lines recommended by the link to another forum provided by Trackie . This sets the stat/GeneralConfig Configured variable to "1 257 513". 1 is for (Satellite?) Guided Setup completed, 257 is for Phone Setup call completed, and 513 is for Network Setup call completed. After restarting, the Tivo complains about the toll-free number changing, but that is easily changed by telling it to connect via network connection.

Since I went back to my old disk setup as a test, it was mainly with the intention of running tests to help diagnose the S03 error.

I would leave your network cable unplugged until GC date changes. Based on what I see in the logs, GC will complete as long as it is not interrupted by a daily call. My first GC took over 6 days and my current GC run has been going for 2+ days now. (logs confirm it is still running)

So, just let it churn...

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Originally Posted by WO312

I would do the channel fix. That forces a GC, although it will take more than an hour, perhaps much more.

Then I would force an update, and after it disconnects from the Tivo server, disconnect from the internet. Check daily to see when GC updates. With any luck, with what I'm experiencing lately, it should update within a day or so. Then connect again for another update, and wash, rinse, and repeat.

No thoughts on how to get Tivo to fix this. I've owned numerous Tivo's since 2000 but I am getting disillusioned.

while lrhorer reported a newer version (and he is not having this problem)

I suspect TA sw version has to match head end sw version, so I won't hold my breath for an easy fix...

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Originally Posted by pninen

My series 3 TiVo is now in the mode (again!) where it keeps telling me program info is going to run out Oct 16th. This message shows up at the bottom of the "Record by" screen, for example. Today it popped up a message that said the same thing.

This conflicts with the program info I am able to see inside my TiVo. If I go to the record by screen, and look at the program info, I can see program info going out thru Oct 24th.

This situation has persisted for several days.

Recent network connections have "succeeded", according to the network screen. Last GC was October 2. Quite some time ago.

Earlier I had the ethernet cable unplugged for about 60 hours. No GC. After that I plugged in the cable, and forced a connection. No improvement. The connection "succeeded", according to the network screen, but the TiVo still thinks its info ends on Oct 16th, so obviously processing the data didn't really succeed.

I unplugged the cable again, and it has been unplugged another 60 hours so far. No change. No GC. Still thinks its gonna run out Oct 16th.

I'm considering another redo of channel setup. Last time I did that it made the thing work for another 2 or 3 days before it started complaining again. I really would prefer not to do the clear everything, because I really dislike reentering all the season passes.

Any thoughts on how to get TiVo to fix this problem? Do we all need to show up and camp out on their lawn for a few weeks or what? Send several hundred phone ordered pizzas? What do you think would do it?

I don't recall this being mentioned before, but I just checked my Tivo to see if GC updated. Last GC update was yesterday around noon, the last connection was about 1:00 yesterday afternoon, then I disconnected the internet. Right now, at 11:00 PM Friday night, the Tivo is indicating that the last update, at 1:00 Thursday, succeeded, and the next scheduled is Friday at 3:38 PM. Well, that time is long gone but the HD doesn't recognize the failed call. Yesterday I had a recognized failed call and a GC update. Not sure if the two are related or not.

I have previously noticed that the time for a call had passed, but I've never followed up on it. This time, I'm going to let this thing percolate to see if it ever recognizes a failed call or if the GC updates. If neither happens in the next 5 days or so I will do a channel fix, because I want guide data in case of any last minute changes. We'll see.

Nothing came of the above. This morning there was a failed attempt recognized about 6:30 AM. Then, just recently at 10:23 AM there was another failed attempt. Still no GC update. I'm going to keep watching.

Since then it's been sweeping (Garbage collecting), and it didn't really catch anything for the first 54 hours of sweeping when it rubbished 52 objects in ~5 minutes.

My first dbgc that took over 5 days started spitting out rubbish info after a mere 36 hours. I hope this is not an indication of dbgc running slower.
Also, the highest fsid from the first run was 2267171 and this dbgc run is already rubbishing 2285175. (It appears that dbgc is going from lowest to highest) Tivo is currently recording fsid 2399917 so it's maybe halfway done?

- In the now playing list it shows that it is recording "Good Luck Charlie" and "Fairly Odd Parents"
- If I go to Live TV and check the guide it shows "Good Luck Charlie" and "Avatar: The Last Airbender" Actual show on TV is "Avatar: The Last Airbender"

This happens all the time and basically renders my DVR into a random show recording machine, completely defeating the purpose of having a Tivo.

My Tivo can't perform its most basic function of recording a show (that I have selected to record). Tivo, are you listening?

Edit: I added another pick to show that my Tivo is able to record 5 days past it's guide end date. It is now capable of predicting the future!

My first Successful GC took 5 days 16 hours and completed on Oct 11. On Oct 12th, I allowed my Tivo to connect & download new guide data....

trackie, I sure wish I knew what you are talking about.

So how are you looking at all this data? I remember from my Series 1 days that it was easy to get into the Tivo, then they made it much harder with Series 2, but then people figured out how to do it. I haven't followed those threads in the Underground for ages. So I'm guessing it's still possible to get inside the Tivo HD without a modded prom. Or is that what you have?

And most important, is there a practical value here, other than watching what's going on?? It looks like ravingfan was able to use fakecall.tcl to fix his guided setup problem, so that's certainly practical. Anything else? I am assuming that anything you find with GC would just point Tivo and/or TWC in a direction to fix the problem, not anything we could do to help ourselves.

- In the now playing list it shows that it is recording "Good Luck Charlie" and "Fairly Odd Parents"
- If I go to Live TV and check the guide it shows "Good Luck Charlie" and "Avatar: The Last Airbender" Actual show on TV is "Avatar: The Last Airbender"

This happens all the time and basically renders my DVR into a random show recording machine, completely defeating the purpose of having a Tivo.

My Tivo can't perform its most basic function of recording a show (that I have selected to record). Tivo, are you listening?

Interesting. I don't believe I have ever seen that behavior with my machine. My first thought was that it was old data that hadn't been corrected yet because of all the connection issues, but it seems like your last GC and subsequent download would have fixed that. Unless it was a very recent change on the part of the network that is not being caught by your Tivo because it is not keeping up because of the GC problem. I assume that is what you are inferring?

I don't recall this being mentioned before, but I just checked my Tivo to see if GC updated. Last GC update was yesterday around noon, the last connection was about 1:00 yesterday afternoon, then I disconnected the internet. Right now, at 11:00 PM Friday night, the Tivo is indicating that the last update, at 1:00 Thursday, succeeded, and the next scheduled is Friday at 3:38 PM. Well, that time is long gone but the HD doesn't recognize the failed call. Yesterday I had a recognized failed call and a GC update. Not sure if the two are related or not.

I have previously noticed that the time for a call had passed, but I've never followed up on it. This time, I'm going to let this thing percolate to see if it ever recognizes a failed call or if the GC updates. If neither happens in the next 5 days or so I will do a channel fix, because I want guide data in case of any last minute changes. We'll see.

O.K., so I now have my GC update with the internet disconnected. Previous one was Thur. about noon, now Sat. at 5:15 PM, so a little more than 48 hours. I will force a connection and disconnect again.

If nothing, we now know that GC will complete as long as you disconnect network. (ie: daily call interrupts GC)
We are learning something new every week, so we may find a self help option. (Have you tested 2GB swap? It works for Ravingfans)

... I do have a socketed TivoHD and getting ready to socket another one Monday

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Originally Posted by WO312

trackie, I sure wish I knew what you are talking about.

So how are you looking at all this data? I remember from my Series 1 days that it was easy to get into the Tivo, then they made it much harder with Series 2, but then people figured out how to do it. I haven't followed those threads in the Underground for ages. So I'm guessing it's still possible to get inside the Tivo HD without a modded prom. Or is that what you have?

And most important, is there a practical value here, other than watching what's going on?? It looks like ravingfan was able to use fakecall.tcl to fix his guided setup problem, so that's certainly practical. Anything else? I am assuming that anything you find with GC would just point Tivo and/or TWC in a direction to fix the problem, not anything we could do to help ourselves.

If nothing, we now know that GC will complete as long as you disconnect network. (ie: daily call interrupts GC)
We are learning something new every week, so we may find a self help option. (Have you tested 2GB swap? It works for Ravingfans)

... I do have a socketed TivoHD and getting ready to socket another one Monday

Is there a way to change my swap to 2GB w/o losing recordings? No way I can lose my recordings.

Process ID changes every time so these processes must be dying for some reason. Any idea what s=0x30001 represents?
Edit: I found ackSyncId string in tivoapp @ 01EA9E20 and MakeDeltas @ 01EA9D90
lrhorer: would you attempt to ID purpose?

I'm probably the wrong guy to ask. I've always been more of a hardware person than a software guru. I've done a little programming, of course, but I've never been a professional software engineer, and I don't have a cross compiler or a debugger for the mips platform.

Probably via telnet. One can also shut down the TiVo, remove the hard drive, and extract the information in an external PC.

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Originally Posted by WO312

I remember from my Series 1 days that it was easy to get into the Tivo, then they made it much harder with Series 2, but then people figured out how to do it.

It has continued to get more difficult. The S4 has not yet been hacked.

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Originally Posted by WO312

I haven't followed those threads in the Underground for ages. So I'm guessing it's still possible to get inside the Tivo HD without a modded prom.

Nope. A modified PROM is essential.

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Originally Posted by WO312

And most important, is there a practical value here, other than watching what's going on?? It looks like ravingfan was able to use fakecall.tcl to fix his guided setup problem, so that's certainly practical. Anything else? I am assuming that anything you find with GC would just point Tivo and/or TWC in a direction to fix the problem, not anything we could do to help ourselves.

One never knows. Even being able to point TiVo in the right direction would be a tremendous step.