What if they did away with the fitness stuff to make it half the thickness and twice the battery life. Now that would be a sweet watch.

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I believe your idea is very smart and would be a big help to Apple with its desire to penetrate the world of fashion.

Offer the current line for fitness and reap big rewards. Fitness is popular to talk about, but trust me... If everyone came to my gym that say they want to, we'd need a vastly larger parking lot.

Growing up in a very athletic fitness first family, the gym is a deeply ingrained daily routine. Only around the end of the holidays do we see a flood of newbies
Only to disappear within a few weeks at most.

Serious fitness enthusiasts like myself don't need Apple Watch, we already have state of the art monitoring equipment that links to our computers.

How could they improve battery life if you make the thing thinner? Removing the fitness stuff would only seriously improve battery life if they filled those gaps with more battery.

And Apple wouldn't do this, because they are designing the OS around the fitness sensors. It uses them to detect if the user is wearing the watch, if the sensors detect that the watch is no longer against the skin, the watch locks, stops getting notifications, and requires that the paired phone be unlocked to make use of Apple Pay next time it is on a wrist.

I believe your idea is very smart and would be a big help to Apple with its desire to penetrate the world of fashion.

Offer the current line for fitness and reap big rewards. Fitness is popular to talk about, but trust me... If everyone came to my gym that say they want to, we'd need a vastly larger parking lot.

Growing up in a very athletic fitness first family, the gym is a deeply ingrained daily routine. Only around the end of the holidays do we see a flood of newbies
Only to disappear within a few weeks at most.

Serious fitness enthusiasts like myself don't need Apple Watch, we already have state of the art monitoring equipment that links to our computers.

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Serious fitness enthusiasts don't need any monitoring equipment, because they know that it's largely useless, and mainly for motivational purposes. Please do tell what 'state of the art monitoring equipment that links to our computers' is, though?

P.S. Apple is trying to penetrate the world of 'our smartwatch doesn't look like garbage' and they're riding fashion as a conduit to show it. They don't need to try very hard though, because every other smartwatch looks god awful.

Serious fitness enthusiasts don't need any monitoring equipment, because they know that it's largely useless, and mainly for motivational purposes. Please do tell what 'state of the art monitoring equipment that links to our computers' is, though?

P.S. Apple is trying to penetrate the world of 'our smartwatch doesn't look like garbage' and they're riding fashion as a conduit to show it. They don't need to try very hard though, because every other smartwatch looks god awful.

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I agree. I will use the tracking stuff to motivate myself to get a bit more exercise. The SS with Link will be a nice watch to wear and I plan to pick a face that matches.

Same here. Now if they got rid of all the notifications and such and made a purely fitness device I would buy it in a heartbeat.

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I might still buy it. It would probably depend on pricing then though. I also probably would reconsider the materials decision (Like I doubt I would invest in stainless steel for a pure fitness device).

So you need state of the art monitoring equipment to be serious about fitness? Sorry but that is rubbish.

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Your assumption is hilarious.

The point is the people I see... besides my friends, at the gym everyday, year after year ...training for various events like marathons, triathlons etc are _already_ using equipment as a regular part of their routine. Therefore we have zero use for a fitness oriented smartwatch.

The point is the people I see... besides my friends, at the gym everyday, year after year ...training for various events like marathons, triathlons etc are _already_ using equipment as a regular part of their routine. Therefore we have zero use for a fitness oriented smartwatch.

There are some people who track every exercise they do on these graph-paper workout logs. 3reps75lbs, 3reps110lbs, etc. along with calorie trackers or weight-watcher log books. Those types of people like to see their progress and to look back on it in a year, and it makes them feel good that their workouts are working. I did that one time when I lost weight.

Others just exercise and know what results they want and know they are progressing by looking at the mirror or scale, and don't need to be constantly fed stats. That's me now.

It's not just fitness, but also health that is being tracked. Having had a heart attack and subsequent ongoing heart problems I won't be visiting the gym any time soon, but I'm very interested in how the heartbeat sensor may develop over time. I'm sure with this first version it will be pretty crude, but I could foresee a time when it could do things such as detect abnormal rhythms, summon help via the phone, collect data for your doctor and many more useful things. It's most certainly a part of why I want one.

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