Facebook debate: How'm I doin'? - Atheist Nexus2015-03-31T19:00:33Zhttp://www.atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/facebook-debate-howm-i-doin?groupUrl=winningarguments&commentId=2182797%3AComment%3A982751&xg_source=activity&groupId=2182797%3AGroup%3A185978&feed=yes&xn_auth=noWell, most people aren't good…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2010-11-16:2182797:Comment:10301542010-11-16T20:01:11.700ZJoseph Phttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/JosephP
Well, most people aren't good an conceptualizing anything outside of their own experience. Christians become Christian in a bright flash of realization that God loves them, and they accept Christ as their personal savior ... or at least that's how their pastors tell them it works, and when you repeat a lie often enough, it's indistinguishable from the truth.<br></br>
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What's funny is that the path to religion is probably about the same as the path to atheism. They're both a gradual, years long…
Well, most people aren't good an conceptualizing anything outside of their own experience. Christians become Christian in a bright flash of realization that God loves them, and they accept Christ as their personal savior ... or at least that's how their pastors tell them it works, and when you repeat a lie often enough, it's indistinguishable from the truth.<br/>
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What's funny is that the path to religion is probably about the same as the path to atheism. They're both a gradual, years long layering on of ideas, whether childhood indoctrination of religion or more mature layering on of ideas about the falsehood of the childhood indoctrination. We're just honest about ours, where they tell a pretty little story about accepting Christ and being saved.<br/>
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It just makes it a pain in the ass, when you try to discuss it rationally with them, and they believe the made-up story ... and of course then try to project that on to your experiences. Thanks, Jennifer. I try.
Myk…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2010-11-16:2182797:Comment:10299762010-11-16T16:06:15.004ZThe Big Blue Froghttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/TheBigBlueFrog
Thanks, Jennifer. I try.<br />
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Myke: It's interesting that when their arguments for their god fail, they seem to have a script wherein they fall back on asking what "made you an atheist" as if they can just uncover the one event that cinched it for us, and then undo the damage. I have news for them. It wasn't damage that made me an atheist, unless it was the damage that religions do and the damage their arguments fail to withstand in the face of reason.
Thanks, Jennifer. I try.<br />
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Myke: It's interesting that when their arguments for their god fail, they seem to have a script wherein they fall back on asking what "made you an atheist" as if they can just uncover the one event that cinched it for us, and then undo the damage. I have news for them. It wasn't damage that made me an atheist, unless it was the damage that religions do and the damage their arguments fail to withstand in the face of reason. I think you've done a fantast…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2010-11-07:2182797:Comment:10226272010-11-07T18:19:55.005ZJennifer E.http://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/jeckert4
I think you've done a fantastic job! I wish could be as eloquent and level-headed as you when debating.
I think you've done a fantastic job! I wish could be as eloquent and level-headed as you when debating. Wow, i just had the same thin…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2010-11-03:2182797:Comment:10196272010-11-03T04:32:14.631ZMyke Sorrelhttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/MykeSorrel
Wow, i just had the same thing on this other website i will post my response, not trying to hijack your thread, but since it's similar no sense in making a new thread:<br></br>
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And i think it's funny you said true followers? what are we following? How do you create something to just test them? We're born clueless, why not just create us in his so call kingdom? So God created us,…
Wow, i just had the same thing on this other website i will post my response, not trying to hijack your thread, but since it's similar no sense in making a new thread:<br/>
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Let me know if i did good as whole, and with my grammar.<br/>
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And i think it's funny you said true followers? what are we following? How do you create something to just test them? We're born clueless, why not just create us in his so call kingdom? So God created us, didn't show us any evidence of him existing, then he childishly thought "hey lets fuck with them, have them guess". Don't you think that sounds a little childish? So this all powerful God created the Universe, and care about human emotions (sounds like a nosey drama queen too). Seems like God have human characteristics, because humans made him up.<br/>
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That's what you believe, he didn't give us free will, we was born into free will. If God is omnipotent, then God know everything, so by that fact God knew he would create us, he knew what is my outcome, he knew the outcome of the world, so in that sense he like create things, and making us guess on life, or be tormented. And if he didn't, then he isn't all powerful. What was the purpose of the moon, stars, and other phenomena? That's is like me building a house, then building other houses next to it you can't live in, or never visit, and get nothing from it(why make something that have no correlation to help our existence). And if what you say is true then your gnostic theist, which means you know for a fact there's a God, and if that's the case how can you prove it? Please don't say you just feel it, or you had dreams, i had dreams vampires was after me, doesn't mean they exist. Tell me one thing God did for you that couldn't have happened out of chance, people say oh god gave me a good job, he did this and that i call BS, the human race prevailed through times, if it wasn't for science and technology we'd die at the age of 34 (Medicine), we wouldn't have all the things you love in life. And FYI God derived from religion, so if you don't believe in religion, what's your sense to believe in God? Another thing, Fact: When the sun dies it will grow and consume the first 5 planets then turn into a white darf, Fact: The Milky Way Galaxy is going to merge with the Andromeda Galaxy in the distant future, i guess that was apart of your God plans too.<br/>
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Well I am spiritual not religous I do not follow any type of religion and I follow God's word. If it was so easy to believe then there wouldn't be faith. I wouldn't make something so easy to believe to see who my true followers are it would be off the wall crazy stuff. Those that believe in the off the wall crazy stuff made the choice to do so and will be rewarded in the end. God gave us free will to see what we choose and that in the interim shows who is true and not.<br/>
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Myke Sorrel BBM: 3249F16E:<br/>
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Well, that's the thing, people have always felt an empty void, and used religion fallacy to fill it in. Before the bible, there where Gods to explain rain, snow, and other sort of phenomenas in the world. In that day in age science debunked those fallacies, now what's left over? What created the universe and what happens when we die. That's why Christianity and Hinduism etc never died, is because we still don't know what happens, not going to call you deluded, but most Christians are, if God always existed, why couldn't things about the Universe always existed? There are so many errors in the Bible, especially claiming the earth is only 10,000 years old and so forth, i mean to me stories like Noahs Ark is hilarious, to know one man traveled to Antarctica, Africa etc gathering all these animals on a big ass ship, i mean come on. And i think it's funny that people think the big bang is so wrong, yet believe a giant man in the sky poofed into existence, and did the same to us? Which sounds more bogus?<br/>
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Well I am a firm believer in God and it is so amazing to me how someone does not believe in him. I have been through so many things in my life and I feel that without God's grace I would not have made to where I am today. I just never met (kinda met lol) someone who is not a believer. Regardless I know He loves you. Hope you have a great day!! :)<br/>
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Myke Sorrel BBM: 3249F16E:<br/>
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What's so intriguing about it?<br/>
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Kimberly L:<br/>
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interesting....<br/>
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Myke Sorrel BBM: 3249F16E:<br/>
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Through reasoning, and through really reading the bible. Just observation, conclusions when viewing the world from a certain stand-point, and just logic.<br/>
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Kimberly L:<br/>
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What made you an atheist? was it something you experienced or just how you have felt since you were little? no disrespect or anything just curious... Yes, it is very interesting h…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2010-10-07:2182797:Comment:9958392010-10-07T04:42:46.704ZGrace Fitzpatrickhttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/GraceFitzpatrick
Yes, it is very interesting how people who are fully capable of believing a person could live unharmed in the stomach of a giant fish for three days, but can't believe any of the disciples were black.
Yes, it is very interesting how people who are fully capable of believing a person could live unharmed in the stomach of a giant fish for three days, but can't believe any of the disciples were black. Well, it's a matter of dogma.…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2010-10-07:2182797:Comment:9957982010-10-07T03:02:01.752ZJoseph Phttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/JosephP
Well, it's a matter of dogma. The acceptance of religious dogma and the acceptance of racist dogma can stem from a similar personality trait.
Well, it's a matter of dogma. The acceptance of religious dogma and the acceptance of racist dogma can stem from a similar personality trait. One thing I find interesting…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2010-10-06:2182797:Comment:9951712010-10-06T16:08:56.323ZGrace Fitzpatrickhttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/GraceFitzpatrick
One thing I find interesting is how easy it is for some Christians to believe fantastic events, but not totally believable events. I took a class on African history. My teacher was Ethiopian. My instructor taught as a fact that the Queen of Sheba and King Solomon were the biological parents of the Ethiopian line of kings that ended in Haile Selassie. And that the Queen of Sheba was quite beautiful.<br></br>
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There was one white boy grad student who wrote his term paper on the subject claiming…
One thing I find interesting is how easy it is for some Christians to believe fantastic events, but not totally believable events. I took a class on African history. My teacher was Ethiopian. My instructor taught as a fact that the Queen of Sheba and King Solomon were the biological parents of the Ethiopian line of kings that ended in Haile Selassie. And that the Queen of Sheba was quite beautiful.<br/>
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There was one white boy grad student who wrote his term paper on the subject claiming he totally disproved the relationship between Solomon and Sheba and the assertion she was beautiful.<br/>
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Of all the stories in the bible, this one is one of the most believable. There's nothing miraculous about men having relations with beautiful women, beautiful women having children or the existence of beautiful women from Africa. I imagine you could just set it in stone that there continue to be beautiful Ethiopian women who have relationships with men and children.<br/>
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There are also tales of these events in both Jewish and Ethiopian culture. But this guy is not the first nor the last person to state while world wide floods, talking flaming bushes, the dead coming back to life and water magically turning into wine are all believable - but a king having relations with a beautiful woman that produced children is not.<br/>
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Of course, we all know what this stems from. To be fair, I have met many Christians, Jews and Ethiopians who believe this story is true.<br/>
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It's just interesting to me that many Christians deny the truth of totally believable stories like this one, but wholeheartedly accept the strange and miraculous like women being turned into pillars of salt.<br/>
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One thing is certain, the existence of grad students who, in spite of all common sense, write term papers insulting the culture and cherished beliefs of their professors. Thanks. I decided not to get…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2010-10-06:2182797:Comment:9950902010-10-06T14:41:12.229ZThe Big Blue Froghttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/TheBigBlueFrog
Thanks. I decided not to get into the whole evolution vs. creationism debate, because it was completely irrelevant to the question of whether God exists or not. It was a red herring that I decided not to follow.
Thanks. I decided not to get into the whole evolution vs. creationism debate, because it was completely irrelevant to the question of whether God exists or not. It was a red herring that I decided not to follow. Awesome NoSacredCow!tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2010-09-21:2182797:Comment:9830832010-09-21T04:00:16.317ZJo Jeromehttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/MaryWood
Awesome NoSacredCow!
Awesome NoSacredCow! The universe is fine-tuned fo…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2010-09-21:2182797:Comment:9827512010-09-21T02:29:01.913ZGlenn Soggehttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/GlennSogge
The universe is fine-tuned for us to realize that we are here, that's all.
The universe is fine-tuned for us to realize that we are here, that's all.