steel-the-deal wrote:Yep I'll have my job in 6 months and I'm on a salery so I'll be getting paid during my three weeks off (higher ed). Also, I have a very small family. Everyone is of age and doesn't need much...we usually just exchange gift cards, clothing, and stocking stuffer type items. as for the fine print, I actually just went to new egg and I guess they changed it from $500 to $200 ..so that might change things a bit...But I have purchased parts for two full builds using the 12 month no interest plan and never missed a payment. It's actually a great way to build credit. I'm fully aware of how to maintain a budget, I'm 29 and have been doing it since I was in college.

Well, if you have the money available and are just using the credit line to build credit history, that's different.

What you'll find is that a large proportion of the TR forum membership cut their hardware teeth in the 1975-2000 time frame, and also has ten or more years with TR. Age-wise, that puts a significant number of us in the mid-30s to mid-50s with 10+ years at TR and 20+ years in technology purchases and upgrades, along with other major life decisions like cars, houses, and 401(k)s. We've either made, or seen others make, all of the classic mistakes with credit and loans on non-essentials...and are quick to discourage easy credit when someone broaches the topic.

Personally, I think that's one of the best things about TR -- yes, we love the technology, but most of the active forum members are fairly pragmatic.

Lol, probably because I used the TR sweeter spot build from 2010 . It has been a great, solid performer!

ludi wrote:Well, if you have the money available and are just using the credit line to build credit history, that's different.

What you'll find is that a large proportion of the TR forum membership cut their hardware teeth in the 1975-2000 time frame, and also has ten or more years with TR. Age-wise, that puts a significant number of us in the mid-30s to mid-50s with 10+ years at TR and 20+ years in technology purchases and upgrades, along with other major life decisions like cars, houses, and 401(k)s. We've either made, or seen others make, all of the classic mistakes with credit and loans on non-essentials...and are quick to discourage easy credit when someone broaches the topic.

Personally, I think that's one of the best things about TR -- yes, we love the technology, but most of the active forum members are fairly pragmatic.

I have a new account but I have been coming to TR ever since I made the mistake of buying a pre-built PC from Cyberpower in 2005. I am by no means an expert but I do like to dabble. Gaming, building, and upgrading are just hobbies for me. I usually tune out from the latest in new hardware after I'm up to snuff. This has always been my one stop for advice before I make any purchases.

The minimum psu requirement is 600watts. Could I potentially be running into a problem running a 650 watt psu if I decide to overclock past the 1100mhz...or even just running it at the stock clocks during a heavy load?

Not that anyone cares but I just pulled the trigger on the gigabyte 7970 ghz ed, samsung 128 ssd, and 8 more gb of ram. Felt the need to post somewhere to express my glee. I guess this thread can be closed. Thanks for all the help guys.

Threads at TR don't usually get closed. Instead, they go dormant for 6-60 months, get necro'd by an autobot spammer, and then attract 1-2 days of rapidfire gerbil chatter before anyone realizes that the question and most recent posting history are badly obsolete. Someone finally points it out, and then the thread goes dormant again, waiting for Father Time to blow his trumpet at the end of the Narnian age.

I see, well I guess I'll use the opportunity to ask another question I used the calculator at Thermaltake and it looks like with the upgrades I'm just barely making the recommended wattage with my 650 watt PSU. Would it be wise to splurge for a beefier PSU, or wait until I surpass the recommendations?

You'll be fine, that Corsair PSU is quality and those calculators always overestimate power draw to be safe and account for junky PSUs. I'd be surprised if your system draws than 300W from the PSU running Prime95+Furmark simultaneously, which is an artificially high load. Even if you heavily overclock the CPU and GPU you'll still be under 450W.

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Thermaltake is yanking your chain for fun and profit (mostly profit). [EDIT: Or see Nerdrage's explanation.] Take a look at the system profile and power consumption in TR's recent comparo of the 7950 vs. 660Ti:

The entire system was showing an average peak under 300W. It will have instantantaneous peaks that run higher, a larger PSU will generally tend to handle those situations more gracefully, but there's no way that test system would require more than a 500W PSU. You might get a system to run an average of 450+ using multi-GPU setups and other exotica, but most people aren't in that range, and vendor PSU calculators tend to favor selling more expensive products, as opposed to what the user actually needs.

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Well I got home and decided to get more details about the card and something occurred to me that for some reason I didn't think of before clicking the submit button to complete my purchase. Will it fit? Well after looking around I found out that it wont fit unless I remove one of Hard Drive bays.... On the upside it will look sexy with my matching blue mobo though.

steel-the-deal wrote:Well I got home and decided to get more details about the card and something occurred to me that for some reason I didn't think of before clicking the submit button to complete my purchase. Will it fit? Well after looking around I found out that it wont fit unless I remove one of Hard Drive bays.... On the upside it will look sexy with my matching blue mobo though.

Pfft... If it won't fit - remove the tray and use the one below it. If you have a lot of HDDs - get an external HDD enclosure, with USB 3.0 or eSATA (if your motherboard doesn't have these ports - buy a cheap PCIe expansion card), problem solved!

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Captain Ned wrote:Rockin' the P182. Still rockin' mine. Have a short card so I can run the double fans in that HD bay.

Oh yeah man, I love this thing. Actually, if I decide to do a full upgrade, I just might buy another one for my old parts Oh and I had no clue what those clips were for that came with the case until I watched the youtube review today. I would have been running the double fans this entire time.

JohnC wrote:Pfft... If it won't fit - remove the tray and use the one below it. If you have a lot of HDDs - get an external HDD enclosure, with USB 3.0 or eSATA (if your motherboard doesn't have these ports - buy a cheap PCIe expansion card), problem solved!

Im cool for now, I just have one HDD and I'll be adding the SSD to the bottom bay when it gets here, which by the way shipped today I love newegg.

It'll be a sad day when they retire this case...not only is this thing super quite but I just love the subtle look to it. I'm not a big fan of the flamboyant "I'm a gaming nerd" look of most cases. Quality cases like these are hard to come by for the price.