Let us be honest. Snap chat is killing Windows 10 mobile

2 years ago you could walk into a Microsoft store and see every employee with a windows phone.

Today, at the Microsoft store where I go which has 2 mall locations. Not a single employee has a Windows phone. When asking several of them why. Snap chat was the reason.

Other things too but that was the straw that broke the camels back.

Microsoft is not caring or giving a hoot about this issue.

I know a lot of people on here may say it doesn't matter and who uses that anyway. But if you look at the graph of snap chat growth and Windows phone user base decline you could correlate the 2 for sure. Not the only reason but a major one for some people.

2 years ago you could walk into a Microsoft store and see every employee with a windows phone.

Today, at the Microsoft store where I go which has 2 mall locations. Not a single employee has a Windows phone. When asking several of them why. Snap chat was the reason.

Other things too but that was the straw that broke the camels back.

Microsoft is not caring or giving a hoot about this issue.

I know a lot of people on here may say it doesn't matter and who uses that anyway. But if you look at the graph of snap chat growth and Windows phone user base decline you could correlate the 2 for sure. Not the only reason but a major one for some people.

Ill agree with you, I have a group of around 10-15 friends who I was hanging out with recently and all of them liked the picture quality, and speed of my phone, but when I told them I didnt have snapchat they immediately dismissed it as a phone option. Let alone I didnt tell them we dont have bank apps... although there is alternatives (prizm) there is no alternatives for pop apps

How much MS cares or how many hoots they give is completely irrelevant! The last thing the Snapchat CEO requires is more money, and he's personally opposed to supporting anything MS. Combined, those two facts mean there is no direct action MS can take to change the CEO's mind.

With the exception of a massive amount of users defecting from iOS and Android to WM (maybe not even that), there is nothing MS can do to bring Snapchat to WM. It's not for a lack of trying.

The reality is you can either live without Snapchat, or you move to iOS or Android.

Since wm is not a priority for ms what your getting is what your paying for. Now since iPhone is apples baby and android is googles that's why they get the support from devs, consumers etc. they put all they have in to it !!

Outside of buy Snapchat? Not much MS can do to make Snapchat dedicate resources to Windows Mobile. Its a "chicken/egg" situation.

Snaptchat is not a publicly owned company, so it can't be bought or taken over [edit: unless the owner decides to sell, which he won't]. We might see an IPO in 2016, but until then that's not an option.

Originally Posted by Christian Matthew

There is nothing Microsoft can do?

Paulxxwall's answer to this question is BS, or at least it is as a response to your specific question.

Like I said, WM becoming very popular and surging in market share would at least make Snapchat (and many other companies) reevaluate the need for a WM app. In that sense it's incorrect to say that there is no solution at all. That is a solution. It's just not a solution which MS is likely to turn into reality anytime soon, nor is it a simple enough problem that MS could just spend their way to success on (no matter how many billions MS spends).

Ultimately though, this is the only solution that is really worth striving towards, because it's the only solution that would solve all of WM's app problems, rather than "solving it" for just one specific app.

Beyond that MS has zero options, at least as far as Snapchat is concerned.

Snaptchat is not a publicly owned company, i.e. it can't be bought. We might see an IPO in 2016, but until then that's not an option.

Paulxxwall's answer to this question is BS, or at least it is as a response to your specific question.

Like I said, WM becoming very popular and surging in market share would at least make Snapchat (and many other companies) reevaluate the need for a WM app. In that sense it's incorrect to say that there is no solution at all. That is a solution. It's just not a solution which MS is likely to turn into reality anytime soon, nor is it a simple enough problem that MS could just spend their way to success on (no matter how many billions MS spends).

Ultimately though, this is the only solution that is really worth striving towards, because it's the only solution that would solve all of WM's app problems, rather than "solving it" for just one specific app.

Beyond that MS has zero options, at least as far as Snapchat is concerned.

How is it bs? In contrast to desktop,enterprise ,Windows as a service, wm is not a priority. What's apples main source? Googles large portion of revenue is android so where's the bs?

How is it bs? In contrast to desktop,enterprise ,Windows as a service, wm is not a priority. What's apples main source? Googles large portion of revenue is android so where's the bs?

I'm not arguing with that point if you leave it at that. However, as an answer to to the question you quoted, that answer implies that Snapchat is not available on WM because WM is not a priority for MS. That is BS.

Snaptchat is not a publicly owned company, i.e. it can't be bought. We might see an IPO in 2016, but until then that's not an option.

Paulxxwall's answer to this question is BS, or at least it is as a response to your specific question.

Like I said, WM becoming very popular and surging in market share would at least make Snapchat (and many other companies) reevaluate the need for a WM app. In that sense it's incorrect to say that there is no solution at all. That is a solution. It's just not a solution which MS is likely to turn into reality anytime soon, nor is it a simple enough problem that MS could just spend their way to success on (no matter how many billions MS spends).

Ultimately though, this is the only solution that is really worth striving towards, because it's the only solution that would solve all of WM's app problems, rather than "solving it" for just one specific app.

Beyond that MS has zero options, at least as far as Snapchat is concerned.

I've come to the understanding that ms is not chasing shares or consumers or whatever and I've moved on as many have but I still have my 1520 so that when ms gets serious about mobile (and we'll know when that happens) I'll try them out again but not until then mean while iOS is boring but mature.

I've come to the understanding that ms is not chasing shares or consumers or whatever and I've moved on as many have but I still have my 1520 so that when ms gets serious about mobile (and we'll know when that happens) I'll try them out again but not until then mean while iOS is boring but mature.

I've come to the understanding that ms is not chasing shares or consumers or whatever and I've moved on as many have but I still have my 1520 so that when ms gets serious about mobile (and we'll know when that happens) I'll try them out again but not until then mean while iOS is boring but mature.

And there's nothing wrong with that. It's just not an answer to the question you quoted. That is all.

Yeah, and if it was 2001 it would be lack of a MySpace app, and in 2007 lack of a Bebo app, and next year it will be some other nonsense.

I still maintain the universal apps will be what closes the app gap, as the "classic" Windows market is too big for most to ignore. However teen fad apps like Snapchat can ignore it cos their target demographic don't use computers, they use phones, and if they choose to ignore Windows there's nothing Microsoft can do about it.

It's not about ambivalence on Microsoft's part as paulxxwall implies, it is about antagonism on Snapchat's part. There has never been an official Snapchat App for Windows Phone. There likely never will be, given one of the founder's outspoken bias against all things Microsoft.

After the 3rd party fiasco, Snapchat reinstated the illusion of security by disallowing any 3rd party Apps on their service. No 3rd party App means no Windows Phone App as they steadfastly refuse to build one themselves. Reportedly, Rudy Huyn the publisher of the most popular WP App even offered his code to Snapchat so they could easily rework it into an official App, but that offer was declined.

Here is the saddest part of this whole thing. I personally don't give two figs about SnapChuck. Never have, never will and no one can make me. But this thing has been so worked over on the forums I am almost forced to learn about it as the perpetual cries for help on the issue never go away.

I strongly urge you to read everything on the history of this brouhaha and then decide if you think this thread is worth keeping open. PM me when you are ready to have it closed.

Its like WhatsApp. Not everyone uses it but a select group does. If WhatsApp was not on windows phone, I most certainly would nt be using windows phone. There is no alternative.

You people need to understand that snap chat is what is it right now. That's what this generation wants and this generation is the one to change the fate of windows phones... not the 40year old + users who don't care about Snapchat.

Originally Posted by PepperdotNet

Here's what I tell my 26 year-old niece. "If you want to be treated like an adult, act like an adult. Adults don't use snapchat, and don't post kissy-face pictures anywhere else online either."

You people need to understand that snap chat is what is it right now. That's what this generation wants and this generation is the one to change the fate of windows phones... not the 40year old + users who don't care about Snapchat.