VY took out $300k loan to throw himself a Bday party

I am not a VY fan/apologist or whatever. I was glad he left, and I am laughing at him now for being such an moron ... but to say that KFC was a FAR better QB is just dumb. KFC was a terrible QB. In 2008 he just happened to be on a team with a very strong run game, and an amazing D, and other than '08 he was worthless.

wasn't VY duped by his financial adviser? Isn't he in the middle of a lawsuit with him? That probably explains the whole thing..

Yeah, thats where all this is coming from. VY is suing his advisor basically saying he was "duped" ... the adviser is basically saying "No, VY is just dumb". So right now its just who do you believe.

I can't really say that I believe VY right now. 1st he says he didn't sign any documents, then he says that he 'probably' signed some, but didn't know what they were ... either he is lying, or he is retarded (or both)

Because he came with no expectations and was meant to be a backup for the majority of the time.

Thought that was obvious.

VY was the 3rd overall pick in 2006. He was supposed to do great things. He has done nothing - and before someone says he did do something, think again. Has he won a playoff game before? No. Therefore he has done nothing.

And don't even think about giving me the "well KFC was taken 5th overall" garbage. That was in 1995. He came with no expectations whatsoever, period. Sadly enough, KFC was a far better QB than VY. He actually had some success at times.

Nothing but win games. He was injury prone. He wasn't PR saavy. And he wasn't the smartest QB that we've had. But he won games.

VY wasn't the problem when he was here. The problem was the rest of the team sucked. We would've been dead last in the league if it wasn't for VY.

I am not a VY fan/apologist or whatever. I was glad he left, and I am laughing at him now for being such an moron ... but to say that KFC was a FAR better QB is just dumb. KFC was a terrible QB. In 2008 he just happened to be on a team with a very strong run game, and an amazing D, and other than '08 he was worthless.

2008 wasn't even his best season.

So maybe he isn't far better, but he's noticeably better than VY.

How did he make it to the Super Bowl? Were the Giants that amazing that he was able to suck and make it all the way like Trent Dilfer? No. Collins had some good years and once was a decent QB.

VY has had one good year and has sucked the rest of the way.

Check their career stats. There's a reason KFC was able to hold a job in the league from 1995-2011. VY was arguably the best college QB of all time, and even with that reputation he only lasted from 2006-2011.

VY wasn't the problem when he was here. The problem was the rest of the team sucked. We would've been dead last in the league if it wasn't for VY.

Then how did Kerry Collins of all people end up starting every game of 2008 and we end up 13-3................... Oh wait, Kerry did not start all games. VY started the first one. Yeah, he cried and refused to go back in the game after fans booed him. Fisher made him go back in and he was "hurt" then missed the rest of the game.

Nothing but win games. He was injury prone. He wasn't PR saavy. And he wasn't the smartest QB that we've had. But he won games.

VY wasn't the problem when he was here. The problem was the rest of the team sucked. We would've been dead last in the league if it wasn't for VY.

What's hilarious to me is that the VY apologists are usually the biggest Locker haters, yet they use the excuse "VY had a terrible team around him." What does Locker have then?

Also, that terrible team around VY happened to have the #5 defense in the league in 2007 - which just happened to be the only time VY ever made the playoffs.

KFC has more wins than VY and a better passer rating.
Hasselbeck has more wins than VY and a better passer rating.
Locker has only started 10 games, so it's hard to judge, but he has a better passer rating than VY.

Hilarious. VY sucks period.

I challenge you to point to more than 10 games (out of his 49 starts with us) where he was actually the reason we won. Can you? I sure as hell can't. I can think of maybe 6-7 games where VY really led us to victory. We usually won due to a full team effort, not because of VY.

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