What are the world Governments getting ready for. I have the field narrowed down!

I have a feeling it's going to be ww3.that's my gut feeling and I hope I'm wrong.but the evidence is there the underground construction,the banking
problems,the China military build up,the US ammo buying,,,,,,,,,,on and on.and I think we are being set up to take a fall food stamps,airport
groping,trying to take the guns,,,,,,,,,,and on and on.

Someone here mentioned that Iowa would be a port to the Gulf of Mexico, I suppose in reference to Edger Cayce's Map. If you were to go to this link:
www.floodmap.net... and plug in 215 meters, then you get your map. Now, in order for this to happen one of a
few scenarios must happen...

Global Warming is real and the ice caps will melt

a pole shift is real, the poles will settle around the equator and the Ice Caps will melt

planet X is real, it will come through, spin us around, and the ice caps will melt

It would seem that either people are "wanting" for the ice caps to melt, or it is inevitable that they will melt. Or just from past history, Noah
flood, etc etc, the poles melted causing floods, or something else is in play; or many somethings are in play.

Originally posted by Trillium
For all the people that are planing going south the north pole now is moving
at 40 miles per year now in the direction of russia. On a pole shift

The northern land mass will become the southern land mass and where is the seed bank

And the south area will become the north area

and why is china going to Africa.

Guess I'm safe

It is the magnetic pole that is moving. This can cause a shift in the geographic pole but by most accounts I have read it usually moves no more than
30 degrees at a time.

Now considering that the North pole does move into northern Russia, that would move the U.S. towards the equater and Paraguay much closer to the south
pole, Freezing out the Bush plantation and water farm.

There's a fatal flaw in part of your logic here regarding the Chinese cities.

A major piece fell in place due to Spike's thread www.abovetopsecret.com... So China is building huge entire cities in Africa and then pricing them
out of reach of Africans. Why would the Chinese Government do this. Remember please, they are not profit driven! Perhaps they see a need to
move millions of Chinese away from China. The Chinese are not stupid, quite the opposite. History clearly shows that any such Satellite State
eventually seeks independence. In a society of educated peoples this would happen rapidly. You may note at this juncture that these cities are in the
Southern Hemisphere.

My emphasis added.

The problem with this statement is that it reveals a fundamental ignorance of Chinese economics and the history thereof. And there's nothing wrong
with that. But it has created a fundamental flaw in your logic.

the Chinese government IS profit driven and has been since the late 70s with the rise of Deng Xiaoping and the introduction of a market economy into
China. Even the official ideology of the Chinese government is open advocacy of capitalism as "socialism with chinese characteristics" - it is
merely heavily regulated capitalism. China even has multiple stock exchanges. They have just as much of a need to keep capital flowing around and to
experience economic growth as any other modern country, and this is part of how they do it. China IS a profit driven society and has been for decades.

Before I continue reading this fascinating thread I must pause and say this post stopped me dead in my tracks. There is something... different...
about my dogs. I (halfway) jokingly told my husband their consciousness was evolving before my eyes. They seek eye contact with me. They have concern
in their gaze. They have become ultra-attached to me and know the meaning of more words I speak at an increasing rate. If only they had the gift of
human speech I've no doubt they'd have so much to tell me. Their eyes beg me to read their minds, and I know how crazy that sounds but it just feels
true to me.

The other thing I want to mention before I forget, is I pulled up a world map and was quite astonished to be reminded at just how little of the
world's land mass lies below the equator! What, a third of Africa, 3/4 of South America, Australia, New Zealand, etc.

So why all the concern/fighting over the Middle East? Just a way to help thin out some of the world's population or is there really something there
to be garnered for the cause? (The area is, after all, well above the equator.)

Originally posted by Trillium
For all the people that are planing going south the north pole now is moving
at 40 miles per year now in the direction of russia. On a pole shift

The northern land mass will become the southern land mass and where is the seed bank

And the south area will become the north area

and why is china going to Africa.

Guess I'm safe

Why do people keep saying the hemispheres are going to switch? That doesn't happen in a Pole Shift. The magnetic poles shift, it's not
geologic. You're talking about Crust Displacement Theory.

Ok OK here
For all the people that are planing going south the magnetic north pole now is moving
at 40 miles per year now in the direction of russia. On a magnetic pole shift
it could be just a 45 degree or 90 degree shift.

Very interesting theories, i have a theory where i believe that december 21st will have no actual apocalypse scenario, yet i do believe that certain
powerful groups like the elites and or illuminatis are attempting to create such a scenario. Most of us are aware of "the agenda" being played out
by these elites such as creating a one world order and minimizing the population to easier controll humanity. These acts are EVIL!!! But are highly
probable with so much greed and selfishness is the world today. And by creating a devastation im talking about manipulating weather such as Hurricane
Sandy and creating wars all around the world. Heck these days it is possible to submurge hundreds of pounds of explosives into the pacific ocean and
simulate an asteroid impact. The navy is certainly up to something off the shores. I also believe that there are a type of advanced species looking at
our governments every move and are able to hack intothe systems to prevent nuclear warfare. You see people there is an existance of Evil and Good in
our universe. Unfortunately we as a human race are only being told 10% of what is really going here... Obviously theres a war between good and evil
here. And at this point in time Evil is controlling everything on this planet. Because in our 3rd dimension power comes from the people that have the
most wealth....

but you dont have to take my word for it. Im just a conspiracy theorist just like you.

Some fine posts there Puterman! You have a way of challenging many of my prior beliefs and calling in to question their validity without making one
inferior for doing so. My compliments on not only the content but the manner in which you present your arguments.
I agree much of what people are calling chemtrails are only contrails yet I do believe they are a real occurrence as you do. My belief is that they
are using authentic chemtrails and the chemicals in them to weaken our immune systems so as to make us more vulnerable to some pathogen they have
created that will be used to "thin the herd" as it were.
It's relatively easy these days to engineer a virus while simultaneously creating the vaccine for it. This would allow the PTB to selectively target
areas and cull the excess population without destroying either the infrastructure or the ecology of a given area.
Just my 2 cents on the matter to further the discussion.

Doesn't take a genius to spot what's coming and start taking contingency measures, but it takes a stone pile of morons to think underground survival
is feasible.

This could be misinterpreted, and I'd hate for that to happen. I wasn't referring to anyone here hypothesizing the existence of underground
facilities intended to shelter survivors in a worst-case scenario situation. I tend to agree with them, in fact. The evidence indicates to me that
this is precisely what is happening.

I do think it moronic in the extreme to divert ungodly amounts of resources to those projects, and I question the intelligence of those responsible.

My mom had a costumer come in and said she is moving to Peru. This was the first time my mom meet this lady. She’s doing so before December 21, 2012
because the aliens told her. She said she started the topic because she sensed my mother was a believer and wanted to warner her. She said south
american was the safe place. She felt my mother was a good spirit and dropped off a 30 pound crystal at our house. Never seen the woman again.

This was about a year ago, my mom know I’m an ATS member so she told me the story. She said my mother had a conection with this laid like they were
old friends. I just thought the lady was a nut case. I have no idea what this means. lol

Spot on... Very few insights are so well put into words. I to lean in your insight. Tough call for the rest that see and have very little choices but
live the day. Your Heart felt Opinion, speaks volumes.
Jesse.

it is obvious that we/they are planning something huge to go down.. why all the crazy laws the past couple of years and i'm not talking about just
the NDAA... what about the one that says the government can take over everything you own including generators, solar power/wind power livestock etc...
Why would the government want a whole bunch of privately owned solar panels unless something crazy happened ?? eh.. what about all the bankers and
scientist who have mysteriously died in the past 10 years.. I haven't seen that thread around in awhile. What about all the freak of nature storms in
the way of conditioning us for a catastrophic event?

I'd like to offer a piece of Jigsaw to this puzzle. Anybody remember a few years back, it was in the news that the Bush family bought 100,000
acres in Paraguay. That's in the... say it with me now... Southern Hemisphere.

Seems like there were other elites who would have the means and the insider info, who did the same. Can't recall who.

Great catch, now that you mention it, I remember thinking that when I first read it. That is one of the things with patterning, it builds up over
time and more often than not I forget the pieces that I have already used.

It does fit perfectly and I agree there have been others including some that bought in Australia.

Thank you for that, I think it is a very important piece that we can shine a light on. 1 star cause I can't give you more.

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Sorry for staying hyper-focused on the 'Elite moving to South America" aspect of this thread, but as they say... follow the money.

It occurred to me that before the SHTF, these folks would certainly like to be safe and sound in their paradise compounds. But it would really raise a
red flag if all of them 'took flight' at once, so how could they really pull of such an obvious mass exodus?

The potential answer lies in the fringe theory of "high speed underground trains" (which even Wikipedia speaks of in a theoretical sort of way.)

So... where's the evidence and how much is bunk? I confess I don't know the answer to that, but there is certainly plenty of information on secret
high-speed underground travel for the few, the proud, the powerful.

I could be well off track here, but a poster referred to the "culling of the population". It has been my belief for some time that this started back
in the 1930's and escalated in the 1970's with the mutated HIV virus particular to Africa. This belief of mine sort of ties in with my thread
regarding NWO & the Chinese ghost cities and the "useless eater" phraseolgy adopted by some sectors of the elite society. Decimate the Africans as
clearly internal wars and fighting is taking too long, then claim the land.

The world as we know it, is about to end. The Earth will not be destroyed but most humans will be. What is about to happen, is completely natural and
happens to all galaxies. It is completely unavoidable. A wave from the galactic centre is already making it's way through the galaxy. It is
"intelligent" and will lay bare the souls of everyone of us. Nothing can be hidden. By March-April 2013, everyone on Earth will realize that
something is very wrong. Expect global catastrophes. Prepare as you can and mental preparation is the best. As we get closer, more and more people,
are revealing evidence of this. It is foolish to fear what is right and intended by powers we can hardly imagine. This is truly a wonderful time. Be
at peace because it is our natural state.

Nobody is "preparing" for anything. Nothing is going to happen. Just like nothing happens every time the paranoids crawl out and start screaming
that the end is nigh.

I would have to take issue with you in that respect. It is very obvious that preparations are being made in many areas. Whilst the reasons are only
surmise on our part and thus the reason for the thread, this does not mean that they are not happening. You would have to be very short sighted not to
seem that something is going on.

My dog backs me up on this, as he has suddenly developed the ability to read English and open up a Twitter account.

Perhaps you could point him at the Internet and let him see if he can show you that something IS going on?

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