What is the most hypocritical thing about the opposite gender?

Of course, this is just based on your own personal experiences and isn't applicable to every single member of that gender. But from your personal observation and experience, what's something hypocritical that the opposite gender tends to do, say, expect, or think?

It really isn't about not telling what they want (albeit many do that as well and want the guy to be a mindreader). But many women really do not know what they want while they think they know. Yet when they have what they think they want, they suddenly realise it's not what they actually want.

In my experience, women never feel as disappointed and betrayed as when you give them everything they ask for.

Women ask for things that they don't want, because they're too busy trying to manipulate men into thinking of them in a certain way. So they ask for things they think they're expected to want.

The way it works is, a girl will right straight to your face and then not only does she expect you to see through the lie, they also want you to correctly guess the truth, and they think that means "he's the one," I guess, I don't fucking know.

"I told him I hate chocolate and love vanilla, but he brought me chocolate! I love chocolate! I can't stand vanilla. I think he's the one."

But you surely recognize that you are extremely unusual for this? You surely see that MOST girls are not honest or upfront with themselves or anyone else about anything, ever, and that they lie just as easily as they tell the truth because they can't actually tell the difference from one moment to the next?

So surely you see that men have been traumatized by this? We are not healthy anymore, we have been severely psychologically damaged and this damage has the effect of perpetuating itself, like cancer. We're quite literally being trained incorrectly and then blamed for having incorrect technique.

This is the most vicious and cruel thing I can imagine. I think it's akin to rape. I think taking somebody who wants to do good, and wants to do right, and then training them wrong on purpose, and then blaming them for failure, is every single bit as vicious and cruel as holding someone down and raping them.

I feel like my whole generation has been raped like this, we have been damaged with wounds that can never heal. And we get zero sympathy, in fact, we only get more abuse if we complain.

Women will not address this. They will not answer for their crimes. That's the insult added to the injury.

What Guys Said 72

cries of double standards, "stop body/fat shaming me" followed immediately by, "I don't date any one under six feet tall". The whole its standards when a woman has a preference its sexist beauty standards when men have prefferences. Also the claim that men get hi-fived when they have sex with a woman which to date I have never witnessed happening, then claiming they get slut shamed BUT they demonize male sexuality at every turn (we have to be taught how not to rape) but they are just exploring their sexuality. They say we can't slut shame them then call men who sleep around players/fuckboys/philanderers etc. No, either your fine with it or your not, pick one. Personally I think women get strange ideas in their head about this, they demand that women get the same leeway as women give men, no just hold men to the same standards don't complain because you want a guy who isn't a virgin but he wants a woman who is, that's your fault not his hold him to the same standard and the problem is solved (same goes for guys, don't complain that she is a slut but be a slut yourself).

I see your points however the whole slut fuckboy thing, I don't necessarily agree with- fuckboys are men who play with your feelings don't really wanna invest in the relationship/friendship whatever it is and then can be manipulative and lead you on, sluts are just females who promiscuously sleep with many people. So I think players and sluts are on the same level, neither one is exactly desired. Not saying girls can't have the same mindset of fucking someone over. It IS a double standard if guys EXPECT girls to be a virgin whilst not being one themselves. everyone has preference but don't expect.

@Cmasterson That's not true, their men who want sex, I can easily say the same thing about promiscuous women. Its that women think that if they have sex with this guy he will some how become loyal to them, we know this because this site is rife with questions from women about how to make these guys be loyal only to them. Its a cover nothing more. Women demonize male sexuality whether it being calling them players and fuckboys when it turns out they do not want to commit to them and only want to have "fun" to claiming that they are "sexually objectifying" women even though its just natural to look at people you find attractive (hence Ellen having men strip on her show to the whistling of women, or the advertising that involves half naked men with six packs (or Hollywood stars for that matter) or the women's magazines and blogs which show men's bulges or shirtless men). Its not a double standard for a man to want a woman with as few of partners as possible because

@Cmasterson the standard is placed by the man on the woman and the woman places the standard on the man. If the man stated that he should be allowed to sleep with as many women as possible and the woman cannot then that's a double standard. However what is happening is that men don't want a woman who has slept around BUT women don't want a virgin man so the man by necessity has to at least get sex once before women will even consider him as possible relationship material. She placed the standard on him, not the other way around, hence me saying that if women don't think its fair stop placing that standard on men, they want a virgin then you tell them you want a virgin, then the problem is solved. Its not a double standard if its not the same person placing the standard, if its just one person placing a standard on a prospective mate then its preference. As I said it needs to be him saying its okay for him to slut it up but not for women for it to be a double standard and you don't

@Cmasterson get that as much as women demanding that the man not be a virgin and the man demanding that the woman have as few as possible partners. Not to say men don't, I even mentioned it, if a man doesn't want a woman to be a slut then don't be a slut yourself, problem solved (the inverse of what I said women need to do).

I don't like that these shows like The Talk and The View talk about the bad shit that men do to women, which should definitely be addressed, but ignore the things women do to men. If a man beats, rapes, kills, or does some messed up shit to a woman, they have no problem jumping on men, as they should. But then when (true story) some woman gets her husband drunk and drugged up and slices his penis off and puts in the garbage disposal, they are laughing at the situation. And they never address that there are some women (I've heard this sort of story happen more than a few times) who will cheat on their husbands, never tell him, get pregnant with another man's child, tells her husband it's his kid, gives birth, his name is on the birth certificate, then the husband gets a weird hunch and says "I don't think that kid looks like me", he gets a DNA testing kit, swabs himself and his kid, sends it to The Kid Might Not Be Yours Labs, and finds out it isn't his. When he finds out it's not his, he doesn't want to pay for the kid, but because the woman lied about the affair and the kid being his, he is the legal father because his name is on the birth certificate, so he has to pay child support or go to jail. I've already heard this story more than once, and one guy was arrested because he didn't want to pay for the kid. But The View and The Talk don't address this. Dr Phil doesn't address this. Oprah doesn't address this. But they have no problem addressing asshole men treating women poorly. By the way, what's the point of constantly talking about the beating and mistreatment of women? Do you think a women beating rapist is going to watch these things and go "oh... I guess I shouldn't be that way anymore"? Obviously we should create awareness, but someone who wants to be a piece of shit isn't going to have a change in heart because some talk show lady is crying saying "don't do that."

I love that females are down voting this. It just shows that when shit happens to a guy, it's either funny, or he deserved it. I didn't say all women act like this. All I said was that no one focuses on the things that happens to men. So down voting what I said just helps shows that men dealing with things like this isn't a big deal.

Girls want to be feminists and talk about how guys are being targeted by toxic masculinity then turn right around and call us softboys or babies or whipped or gay when we stop being alpha males for a second. I think toxic masculinity is real but I’m a bit sick of getting insulted for actually challenging that ideology.

In a relationship, they think their feelings are more valid than ours, simply because they're the girl. They think things are ultimately supposed to go their way, and don't seem to even realize they're doing it. And at the same time they say, "respect my feelings please."

I guess the closest thing women do to hypocrisy is they complain about, "where have all the nice guys gone" but they never give nice guys a chance. That's coming from personal experience. Throughout middle school and up till my third year or so of high school I was a nice guy. Didn't get me anywhere, so I started treating women a little worse. Not badly, but not exactly nice either. For instance, a girl would fish for a compliment and instead of feeding her I'd blow her off or shrug. Guess what the result was. Low and behold I started having more success with women. I literally became more successful with women after I started treating them worse than I had in the past, and then I see all these girls complaining about not being able to find a nice guy. Pretty irritating, I tell you.

Women who are touchy feely yet, find the same behavior from a guy to be abusive. I had a very traumatic sexual assault when I was young, and I loathe strangers touching me, and for some reason strange women think that it's okay to juat grab my arm, touch my shoulders, or hug me... If a guy did that, he'd be in prison, but just because it's a woman...

Saying you would do one thing or another "if you loved me", when she did none of those things and or nothing to change them. I've had girls literally tell me if I really loved them I would have done whatever, when they never even told me about the issue.

A couple of things. Women seem to want to be doted on, but then they bite your head off for "not respecting their independence as a woman." Women also talk about how they don't want relationships but then also want to have romance with their hook ups

Women get away with a lot of things men never could, like false rape accusations that get overturned with no consequences...

and they want to be treated as equals until they realize they have to work like a man for it ie. they want equal pay, but only want to be high level industry leaders, (you will rarely if ever see a woman doing construction or any hard labor)

So many women say they are looking for a good guy but then they fall for jerks who treat then like shit because they look nice. There good thing is it seems to be a phase most women eventually outgrow.

And the bit about me being virgin shamed happens to me from a lot by females, they laugh at me all the time, just cause of my age and they say there's something wrong with me because I'm a virgin and is seen as a bad thing for guys my age...

But if a female is a virgin, no one cares how old they are, and its seen as a good thing if they are, if they are over the age of 18+ as well...

By the way, if your girlfriend's don't lift a finger in a relationship, your with the wrong girls. I went to college for my man (never had plans to). I started working to help him buy a car. I cook for him when I see him because I know he lives my cooking. I let him have his way because I love him. So some girls lift fingers. Find the right girl.

Do you want a list?1. If a guy doesn't like a girl simply because of her weight.=hes an asshole. If girl doesn't like guy simply because of her weight.=she has standards2. If a girl expects a guy to open doors for her, pay for dates. Be a breadwinner and provider by paying for housing and utilities.=she knows her worth. If a guys expects a girl to cook and clean=he's a sexist asshole.3. Girls will make fun of how a guy looks. Yet relay on makeup to look attractive.4. Girls have this whole. "Women dont have to give men shit" yet feel a man should give them 100% and her wants, otherwise he's taking her for granted. 5. Guy uses women for sex=asshole girls using guys for money, status, fame etc. =shes looking for security in life.6. Girl is shown naked on tv=sexist guy is shown naked on tv =no big deal.7. Guy gets hit by girl=what did he do to piss her off? Girl gets hit by girl=in no circumstance is that acceptable.8. Girl gets injured, tortured or killed on tv or movie= supporting violence against women. Guy get injured, tortured or killed in movie or tv=good old television.9. Fit girl gain weight and people make jokers=assholes fit guy gains weight and people make fun (van diesel)=just a joker in good fun.7. Girl says she got raped= believe the victim. Guy says he got raped=hahahahaha8. Girl gets raped.=who did it we'll make pay. Guy gets raped=hahahahahha9. Joke about girl getting raped=asshole. Joke bout guy getting raped=hahahahahahaha10. Girl mutilates guys genitals=he probably had it coming. she's considered brave and gets to be on a talk show. Guy mutilates girls gentiles=horrible person.11. Male teacher has sex with female student=he took advantage of her. Female teacher has sex with male student=he took advantage of her. 12. Stay at home mom=hardest job in the world. Stay at home dad=lazy freeloading bum.13. Guy becomes famous and dumps girlfriend for someone else.= asshole. Girl becomes famous and dumps boyfriend for someone else.=she knows her worth

The hole premise that guys are assholes and only date hot girls blah blah blah, when women are genuinely fucking horrific for it, you could literally bend over fucking backwards for a girl, do everything for her, all the love, care, money, anything in the world, and she will still just fuck off for the nearest hot asshole who treats her like shit.

@Sweepthelegjonny But sometimes she'll be sober and you fuck her consensualy, but then something will snap in her and she'll feel ashamed or be pissed at you for something and say you raped her Women these days can't be trusted

@kawaiiguineapig No doubt there are rapists in Hollywood, but I don't believe all these allegations are true. 6 times a day there is a new story about someone new being sexually assaulted by a celebrity. At this rate it means every other man in this country is a sexual assaulter.

You asked a question and I responded. This just so happens to be a particularly passionate subject that rouses much ire. I don't ask to be the emotional baggage dumping ground nor do you hear me crying about insecure and emotionally manipulative women. @nyx85 you're in the wrong post, sweetie.

What Girls Said 28

"If you have sex with me on the first date, you're not girlfriend material and I wouldn't pursue a relationship with you. Even though I ALSO HAD SEX ON THE FIRST DATE (WITH YOU)." It's only wrong if the girl does it.

Hypocrisy from men that I've noticed is that they complain that women only go for men who aren't attracted to them or ignore her and string her along. This is especially true for "nice" guys, YET they're doing the same thing! By fawning over that girl as you watch her heartbreak because of bad boys or whatever, you too are also going after someone who isn't interested in you and is stringing you along. Pot, meet kettle. Why judge women for falling victim when you're doing the same?

No, you're wrong. Most men are blind to the way women are manipulating them. They are angry and frustrated that the woman is doing it, but they "forgive" her because they assume she is not aware of her own manipulation.

We think, "nobody could be THAT fucking evil, she must just be an idiot."

When men realize that women really are that evil is when they become certified woman-haters.

I've read both arguments and would like to insert my two cents. In both cases, I don't think it is the fault of the person being manipulated, for having had more faith in their manipulator than their manipulator deserves. Furthermore, who does it more I feel is a pointless debate, but what I will say is that men do not have the option to act irrationally, and then blame it on their period. Technically I cannot surely say that most women engage in such behaivor, because I'm clearly biased being a man, but im no fool. And I think more often than not, women that go out of their way to be disingenuous would prefer that we were all fools.

@Pegases I think manipulating people who trust you is no different than calling a puppy over to you and acting friendly, just so you can kick it.

I think if someone gets a thrill from doing evil things, it's a sign of severe psychological dysfunction, PROFOUND mental illness. Even to the point of saying, "okay, let's have this manipulative person committed until we can figure out a way to uncross the wires in their brain, and to protect innocent people from them in the meantime."

But that never happens. Evil people. . . at best receive no correction, and at worst they are only encouraged.

@bananaman177, for the most part I agree with you. But what I suppose I wonder is if you take what a lot of women are notorious for doing, to heart. The way I see it, when you spot consistent shitty behaivor, it's a gift, because as long as that behaivor remains consistent you can counter it by adjusting accordingly. Personally I would prefer not to have to play the game, but this is a dog eat dog world. Thus, when it comes to what appears to be the majority of women and their behaivor, it's imperative that one acknowledges that if he does not take the neccessary measures to protect himself, he will likely become disgruntled with the realization that just like men, women too are very much capable of deception and fuckery. In closing, I agree like I said, but I wouldn't take women's behaivor personally if you do. Almost always shitty women acting out has more to do with their immaturity than it does you.

@Pegases I suppose my feeling is that if somebody injures me, I take it personally because I am personally injured, so it is personal to me.

I'm not "impersonal" to myself, I don't view myself as a meaningless statistic.

If somebody injures me intentionally and says, "it's not personal," to me, yes it fucking is and if they don't agree, I'm going to SHOW them how personal it is by taking revenge without mercy.

I don't mean "eye for an eye," either. You take out my eye, I'll take both of yours, and then set you on fire.

Maybe that's immaturity on my part, but nobody is allowed to fuck with me. I don't fuck with other people and I go to great lengths and make great sacrifices to NOT screw anybody over, so when somebody does it to me, you know, it's like, "Hey, I only have one rule. If you break the only rule, well then there ARE no more rules. Are there?"

You're a good man @bananaman177. Stay that way, just know not everyone has the same set of morals as you do. Sad thing about this world is that we all go through some sort of heart break. Learning from it is the best we can do, but never let it keep you down man. Good luck to you

@Pegases I agree with you. I'm not sure why men are so surprised to find out that yes, women can have ulterior motives as well. Humans are flawed. This is part of "don't put women on a pedestal" that I tell decent men everywhere to avoid. This doesn't mean distrust every single woman, no. It means that just like men, women can hurt the opposite sex. Especially in regards to sex and relationships.

Well I can answer that. In our society most boys are taught that women are delicate princesses, or flowers that have to be protected. In most cases, being delicate, and also savage don't coexist, especially to a little boy. So naturally a lot of men find out the hard way that indeed being delicate, and savage can coexist, and often does. Boys are unintentionally coached into being so naive.

@Pegases all the time growing up we hear that lol I remember this kid one time slapped my butt in 1st grade and the teacher just said it's because he liked me. This other boy in 3rd or 4th grade made fun of my hand me down clothes. And he points and laughs at me and says "wow, you're poor". And this other boy was standing up for me. And I guess telling him to stop. So the substitute teacher said to ignore the boy who made fun of me, he probably has a crush on me. And then I asked about the boy who stood up for me and the teacher says "oh, he's just being nice".And the rest is history lol

well if you're not hot no matter how natural you are it just won't catch out attention, plus you must learn the difference between aiming for pussy and aiming for a relationship, most men will seem like they run after some of the shittiest girls around... however its only cause said girls give sex with ease, they get sex and move on , they aren't chasing these girls cause theyre so "good"

The term was introduced from the movie "Mean Girls". Usualy mistaken for the term "material girl" because they dress well - but not for themselves but more so to impress and make a statement! It's usually an insult refered to girls who are way over there heads, put themselves first, plain heartless and just plain fake! They put on make up everyday and look ugly without it. They put on lipgloss every few seconds. They'll be the ones starting drama in school and minipulating all the boys. It's not hard to spot one, just don't be fooled by their charm. They're called plastic for a reason, that's because they don't feel anything and any insults you run by them will slip off just like cold shiny plastic

Jealousy. Men tend to get angry when we act jealous after they pay attention to another woman; often throwing down the "don't you trust me?" card. But when we show the same attention to another man, whether it's platonic/innocent or not, all hell breaks loose.

Women label each other sluts way more than men do it even the men who think of you as a slut would rarely express their opinion.Just because girls don't high five each other doesn't mean girls shouldn't.

Nobody high-fives a dude for being a slut. I hear women say this literally every day of my life like it's just ALWAYS happening, like we all just worship the guy who talks about his sex life. I've been in thousands and thousands and thousands of situations where this could have happened, but I've never experienced it.

If a man is a slut, I look down on him and so does everybody else. Same as women.

i think the ol' if you sleep with many guys you're a slut however if a guy does- then thats okay. I know the exact definition of a slut is someone who has promiscuous sex with many people however its deemed still as deviant behaviour.. for girls.

ALSO though I don't like how really some* females only want sex when they want it and then complain that their guy is too horny. I've heard some of my friends complain about this and it just seems one sided, I think in order to keep both people happy you can't be selfish all the time

Almost everything I've heard a guy complain about in person or online have been things myself or other girls/women I've known have experienced. Yet when you point this out to them they are often like "No! I don't believe it!" and "It's WAY worse for us!" Yeah why don't you try experiencing being another person before you make that judgement call? Oh you can't? Then STFU.

On the other hand, there's people who feel others' pain more acutely than they feel their own, and even feel others' pain more acutely than the others' themselves do.

I have this curse, although it seems to be more associated with women.

Sometimes I see the world as an orgy of senseless, unreasoning hatred and vindictiveness and it feels like I'm the only one remotely bothered by any of it. Like most people are perfectly happy to simply destroy and be destroyed in turn.

@Bananaman177 I'm the same way which is why I prefer to be alone most of the time and will do what I can to avoid large groups/ crowds of people. I'm very selective about who I spend my time with and certain friends, although I do love them, I can only take in small doses. But when a person gets hurt I'm often more affected by that than if it happened to me.

No, the PROBLEM is we get PTS-fucking-D from witnessing and experiencing other people's rampant psychopathy.

I keep losing my mind and I'm not just quoting some dumb old saying, or reciting empty, meaningless words, I'm literally experiencing personality fragmentation to the point of becoming a psychopath myself.

My mom literally told me a couple months ago that maybe I should start drinking more. Her reasoning (and I found it to be quite sound) was that most "normal" people drink to excess in order to deaden their senses to the horrors of life, and I am not giving myself the benefit of that "vacation from awareness," so I'm like someone who works all the time and never gets time off, or a soldier who never rotates away from the front.

And lest I sound like I'm equating my problems with that of combat soldiers, I would just point out that soldiers are given weapons and armor and training and allies and comrades to fight their battles, I'm naked and alone in the dark with nothing.

I thinks it's because women love a chase as much as a men. People in general don't want what's easy, they want what they work for, because usually what's worked for is what is truly appreciated. I think that fact is the logic behind "playing hard to get", which both genders certainly utilize often. I personally play hard to get more often than not, but most my guy friends do not.

It's not that guys shouldn't cook, it's that most can't. Culturally, women can cook and therefore do. There's no boy version of the easy bake oven. Well maybe this one thing where slime poured out of a skull.

Man: I do all the work for this family, and you do what? Nothing? Do something productive.

Women: Give me a second to set down our child and turn off the oven so I don't burn your dinner. Oh... Whoops! Almost tripped on my cleaning supplies. WHO HAS BEEN SITTING ON THE COUCH ALL WEEK? You don't even have a job!!!

Goodness. Well I think we just discovered one right here. "Violence". Men "can't" hit women, but a lot of women think it's ok and more often than not hit men, and/or threaten mutilation, when the reverse is almost always deemed far more abusive and problemtic.

You seem triggered.. It's about equality and double standards isn't it.. Sure, men are stronger, does that mean women should be paid less to do the same job as a man if she is capable of doing it? Meanwhile here in America women are literally paid less to do many of the same jobs as men that in many cases don't even require physical labor.. a great example of womens strengths is something called Brazilian jujitsu, a form of self defense that uses a "stronger" opponents strength against them. Physical attributes aren't all that define a person, or at least it shouldn't be anyway, and I'd imagine most women wouldn't want it to be.. You're choosing to focus on the physical differences in men and women because it allows you to overlook the overall moral issue that arises from expecting more self control from others, than you expect from yourself.

If you expect men to control themselves, and to be punished for not doing so, then you are not void from that expectation just because you don't inflict damage the same way. Simply said "You're a hypocrite if you aren't holding yourself to the same standards that you hold others to." Because by exploiting the logic in protecting women for the sole purpose of being able to act out however you want to, you're perpetuating a CLEAR double standard that is quite despicable considering that what your exploiting, was intended for the sole purpose of protecting all women.