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Guest: Frank White. Topics: “The Overview Effect,” the newly released 3rd edition, human spaceflight, a philosophy of space exploration. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed author Frank White back to the show to discuss the 3rd edition of “The Overview Effect” and a philosophy of space exploration. Special pricing is available for the book at http://arc.aiaa.org/page/25for25sale. During the first segment of our 93 minute program, Frank said that he had interviewed 29 astronauts plus three future astronauts. He then talked about new interviews for the newly released 3rd edition of the book, highlighting interviews with Helen Sharman in the UK, Sandy Magnus, Akihiko Hoshide, Sir Richard Branson, George Whitesides & Loretta Hidalgo Whitesides among others. He also spoke about his interview with Loren Acton. One of the significant differences from the earlier editions was the focus on the New Astronauts. One theme that was repeated during the show was based on the interview with Dr. Sandy Magnus and her comments about their being a difference in understanding the overview effect intellectually as compared to experiencing it. This opened the door to listener emails about the type of communication among people who have experienced the overview effect with those who have not experienced it. Later in the segment, Frank mentioned there was no philosophy of space exploration, suggesting that the overview effect might be able to create such a philosophy. As the segment was ending, Marshall called to ask about gender differences as well as differences among engineers & those with other backgrounds.

In the second segment, we heard from Joey in the UK about the overview effect with Chinese and Russian taikonauts and cosmonauts. Carl sent in a note to challenge the peace and harmony picture being presented by bringing up today’s reality with a focus on those wanting to destroy others. He did not think such groups would be particularly open to transitioning from their ideology to one supported by the overview effect. Don’t miss Frank’s response to Carl. Frank took a few minutes to talk about his Kindle book, “The New Camelot.” The book looks into the King Arthur and Knights of the Roundtable story, suggesting that President Kennedy was Arthur sending out astronauts on a quest. Like Arthur, JFK was hoping to unify the realm (so to speak). This topic came up later in this segment in more detail. We did talk about human spaceflight and global advocacy, commercial spaceflight, & the benefits of simulation for getting people to “get it” about the overview effect. Listeners emailed Frank asking if overview effect training was being included in the many personal spaceflight training programs now available on the market. Near the end, Frank talked about a possible 4th edition of his classic book.

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Guest: Leland Melvin. Topics: Spaceship Earth Grant contest, The Overview Effect, space exploration, STEM. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed former NASA astronaut Leland Melvin to the program to discuss Spaceship Earth Grants (SEG) (www.spaceshipearthgrants.com) as Leland is the president of the organization. This program was a one hour show so there was no break as we had just one segment. Mr. Melvin started out by telling us about SEG which he said was formed to do good in the world. He talked about their contest for raising money to send people to space so that they will experience an orbital shift in perception (The Overview Effect) and upon return, do work and good with this new perspective of Earth. They want this new perspective shared with others for the benefit of all. He talked about the application for the contest and the fee structure which you will find fully explained on their website so see the above URL. Leland explained that this was a crowd funding program though not like others that use specific crowd funding program such as Kickstarter or Indiegogo. We also learned from a listener question that the contest winners will choose their own carrier for going to space and will need to comply with the rules & conditions set by that particular carrier. Later, he mentioned that they would have a spaceflight training academy but details would not be announced until later in October. The contest involves paying a fee which is on a sliding scale, submitting a video and writing an essay on why you want to go space. I asked our guest why the average person needs to go to space. Leland spent some time responding to this question so don’t miss this crucial discussion. Leland was asked if students on a global bases seemed interested & inspired by space when he spoke to them. He said yes & told us a great story about what happened with a Brooklyn student who slept through his talk. We talked about international space cooperation, specifically with the Russians even when our non-space relationship with Russia was at a low point. Regarding their contest, Leland talked about some of the benefits early adopters get by filling out an application, submitting the video, essay, and fee. A listener asked if they would market their space flights for adventure as do the space tourism companies or are they only going after the change in perspective & Overview Effect benefits. I asked Leland if he had experienced the Overview Effect on his two Atlantis flights. The same question was asked about his astronaut peers. Leland had much to say in response to this question because when he went to space, he was not familiar with the Overview Effect but told us that what he experienced was the Overview Effect without putting a name to it. Later in the program, we discussed SEG being founded on the principles of Muhammad Yunis, then Leland was asked by Kristin if SEG would focus on space settlement as well as tourism. We learned that the organization was accepting applications from 156 countries. In his summary, our guest talked about civilizations coming together through space, the orbital shift in perspective by just being in space, and the need to fund STEM programs/students.

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Guest: Robert Walker. Topics: Artificial gravity, Earth gravity, life on Mars, and more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

In our second segment, Robert talked about both Inspiration Mars and Mars One as it relates to spinning to create artificial gravity, the number of revolutions per minute, simulate programs, and his favorite, a 2-3 year precursor mission at Earth L2. He wants the mission designed to be a comprehensive test bed for artificial gravity. Later in the segment while discussing Mars, he suggested we orbit Mars and not land on the planet. Listen to his reasoning for this type of human Mars mission. For one thing, he said its much safer to be in orbit. We then focused on the possibility of microbial life on Mars, we talked about the Viking Labeled Release experiments. Robert was asked a question about the sleeping centrifuge (you sleep horizontal as one does on Earth). Partial gravity was discussed as well. Robert said many times that we must find out what is going on with Mars. He mentioned the Phoenix mission which Mars One is planning to copy to some degree with its robotic mission to Mars in 2018.

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Guest: Tom Olson. Topics: The year 2012 is reviewed from the space perspective and we look forward to space development in 2013. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. We welcomed back Tom Olson for his annual Space Show year in review analysis with a look forward to 2013 for space development. We started our discussion by remembering those in our space community that are no longer with us. We specifically mentioned three dear friends though we know that others have also left us. Our program was dedicated to Neil Armstrong, Jesco von Puttkamer, and Reda Anderson. We certainly miss our friends but space development marches on like everything else in life. A few of the early issues Tom brought up in the 2012 annual overview of space included the Falcon 9 launches and Dragon missions. He also talked about ISDC and birthing of Dragon during the keynote by NASA Administrator Charlie Bolden. While on the subject of SpaceX and its mission to the ISS, Paul sent in a question asking if SpaceX dropping out of the Stratolauncher project indicated that perhaps they had “bitten off more than they could chew.” Tom and I have no inside information about SpaceX and Stratolaunch but we both thought that Paul’s comment was reasonable as SpaceX is certainly busy enough with game changing projects & technology. Cubesats were discussed given their rise in popularity and importance in 2012. It seems as if their potential is more than on the rise! Cubesat growth also cuts across many diverse space industry segments and niche markets. Bev asked about the future of 3-D printing and its potential impact on future human spaceflight (HSF). 3-D printing is certainly experiencing space industry growth & there will soon be a small 3-D printer on the ISS. Heavy lift came up and much was said about the Falcon Heavy and SLS, both looking back over 2012 & forward to 2013.

In our second segment, I asked if fuel depots would evolve from the Power Point & rhetoric stage to something more tangible in 2013. We talked about depots as many of the projects announced in 2012 use depot technology to enable their plan. Tom talked about warp drive becoming more possible due to the 2012 work of Dr. Sonny White. Dr. White will be a guest on The Space Show Friday, January 4, 2013. Tom next brought up NASA budget issues & possible cuts. He talked about science mission cuts, the JWST, and on the HSF side, SLS eating up much of the budget with commercial crew still needing funding. I asked Tom how he thought space advocacy made out during 2012. Mixed was a one word summary of this discussion. Next, we talked about space settlement being made part of the U.S. space policy in 2013. Tom went over the pros & cons surrounding this effort. Doug called in about space settlement & I referred him to earlier programs with Steve Wolfe who authored the Space Settlement Act of 1988 which is part of public law. Tom said space settlement was SLS dependent & that makes the potential policy controversial to many space enthusiasts since many oppose SLS. Tom said 2012 was a good year for new commercial space grandiose missions such as Golden Spike, Planetary Resources, Mars One, a lunar base, Shackleton Energy, even EML2 missions. He kept asking the questions regarding objectives, who pays, the reasons for the missions, and more. He said most of these missions rely on some form of large launcher, either the Falcon Heavy SLS. Tom talked about ITAR reform that has been signed by both houses of Congress & is applicable to the U.S. satellite industry. Human rating of the Atlas came up for a 2012 progress report, then Dave in San Antonio inquired about cyber warfare & the space industry in 2012 & the future. 2012 marked the year the space shuttles went on display in museums & Tom talked about the Russian space program investments for modernization over the coming decade. He also talked about other national space programs. Near the end of our program, we brought up the Spaceport America liability issue & the risks facing the New Mexico spaceport. Tom updated us for 2013 on the NewSpace Business Plan Competition & his work with the Exodus Group for space business consulting.

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Guest: Dr. Erick Seedhouse. Topics: Astronauts4Hire.com, commercial astronaut corps, & “Astronauts For Hire: The Emergence of a Commercial Astronaut Corps.” You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work, but must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies. We welcomed Dr. Erik Seedhouse back to the program to discuss his new book, “Astronauts For Hire: The Emergence of a Commercial Astronaut Corps.” You can order the book from the following link & when you do, Amazon makes a contribution to The Space Show/OGLF: www.amazon.com/Astronauts-For-Hire-Commercial-Exploration/dp/146140519X/ref=onegiantlea20. While our program was in two segments, again, our topics crossed segments so this summary is written without regard to segments. Dr. Seedhouse introduced us to the organization, Astronauts4Hire.org which is also their website. On their home page, you can subscribe to their newsletter and news alerts for the organization as they strive to build a commercial astronaut corps. Erik told us how to join up, the difference with Flight Members and Associate Members, what the flight qualifications consist of, and how they envision their role in flying citizen science experiments on the upcoming suborbital flights. While we did mention orbital flights, Erik said the difference was significant with suborbital and for now the focus was completely on suborbital. As you will hear, the book is much broader than the organization as he goes into many of the human factors impacting HSF, both on the suborbital level and the orbital level. His book addresses the leading companies in the industry, NASTAR training for suborbital astronauts, and forward looking potential commercial space businesses. One of the issues that can negatively impact suborbital human flight is space sickness and Erik spoke about this in some detail. He also talked centrifuge training and G-forces on launch as well as the reentry. Near the end of the program, we talked about suborbital vehicle safety, launch abort, and crew escape.

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Guest: Robert (Bob) Zimmerman. Topics: Recent space news and announced projects. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed Bob Zimmerman back to the show. Check out his blog at www.behindtheblack.com. We started off our first long segment (90 minutes) by mentioning the 50th anniversary of Telstar 1, the death of our friend, Al Zaehringer, AT&T and our early space program, plus the word coming from CERN that they may have found the Higgs-Boson particle. I then asked Bob to comment on the global warming statements being made about the current East Coast heat wave, followed by comments by Newt about the power grid outages and a taste of what an EMP would be like. We then turned to space and Bob talked about the recent success with Dragon and Falcon 9. He then talked about government space programs as compared to private programs. Throughout our 135 minute discussion, he reiterated his opposition to space programs, making it clear that he does not want a “program” and why. Let us know on the blog if you agree with him. Bob suggested we were in a period of space revolution and that it would be very exciting over the next five years. He talked about SpaceX compared to the Russians and the Chinese. He did say we were in competition with them for control of space and this led us to a discussion about culture and the space frontier. We talked about recently announced projects, Planetary Resources, Mars One, and one by the B612 Foundation. He thought B612 was the only real one of the three. Terry called from Texas to discuss using an Orion for a LEO mission, the Falcon Heavy for a Moon mission, Delta IV heavy and SLS. Jerry called in from Florida and among our topics were frontier development, the Oregon Trail, the CERN reactor in Switzerland rather than in Texas, and more. No space programs per Bob’s preferences again came up. Let us know your thoughts about these issues on the blog. As the segment ended, Bob was asked about Skylon which was the subject of yesterday’s program.

Tim’s call started our second segment & he asked about a lox paraffin hybrid rocket motor. We also talked about the space shuttle & its capabilities. While Bob praised aspects of shuttle, he said the program was a failure. I did not agree with him but listen and let us know what you think regarding this issue. Note that as the program ended, Martin sent us info on the hybrid motor mentioned earlier by Tim so check out www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9erCLJ5KVgas Brian Cantwell delivered a presentation at Stanford on the state of the art of hybrid rockets. Bob then updated us on the bat situation with the white nose fungus. As our program ended, Bob talked about upcoming events starting with Orbital’s Cygnus/Antares debut, Dream Chaser and other competitors. He had some brief comments about the suborbital industry and citizen science projects and concluded by saying we were no longer in a holding pattern re commercial space.

Guest: Edward Wright. Topics: Citizens in Space program with the U.S. Rocket Academy. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed Ed Wright back to the show to discuss his new program Citizens In Space. You can find out more about this program by visiting www.citizensinspace.org. Ed started Teachers in Space many years ago and he has now expanded it to the new program, Citizens in Space, with a focus that goes beyond the public school system. As you will hear, the new program is more inclusive as it involves students, museum educators, and others to be both citizen scientists and space explorer astronauts. Ed, in three full Space Show segments, described the new program, explained citizen science experiments and projects, why it was important to expand the program beyond the public school system, and much more. During this interview, Ed talked about requirements, applicable FAA rules, the XCOR Lynx which is the vehicle they have selected, plus information on the science experiments & payload requirements. He spent some time talking about the difference in a demonstration which he said was all too common in our current school system as compared to a real experiment. He also talked about Citizen in Space promotional programs to an expanded audience including the Maker Faire Conference/Workshop which is held in San Mateo, CA each May. Ed talked about the Citizens in Space relationship with the Space Studies Institute and their new programs. You can read about the SSI programs on the Citizens in Space website. If you have comments and questions related to this show, please post them on The Space Show blog URL above. You can email Ed Wright through his website or use edward.v.wright@rocketacademy.org.