Boehner: It’s time to do something for the children of illegal immigrants

posted at 4:41 pm on July 17, 2013 by Allahpundit

The strongest sign yet that what emerges from the House will in fact include a path to citizenship — not for everyone, maybe, but certainly for DREAMers.

After dodging the issue for months, House Speaker John Boehner on Wednesday took a position on citizenship for undocumented immigrants, saying Congress must deal with the children of those who are in the United States illegally.

“This is about basic fairness. These children were brought here on no accord of their own. And frankly, they are in a very difficult position. And I think many of our members believe that this issue needs to be addressed,” Boehner said at the weekly press conference with House GOP leaders…

On Wednesday Cantor emphasized that this was one area where both political parties should work together to provide some certainty for children.

“The history of our country is one that has moved away from holding kids liable for the deeds, misdeeds, commitment of crimes by parents. These are, in many instances, kids without a country if we don’t allow them to become full citizens of our country,” Cantor told reporters Wednesday.

It’s not just Boehner and Cantor. Darrell Issa and House Judiciary Committee Chair Bob Goodlatte have also sounded warm to the idea of a limited DREAM-type amnesty for children recently. Like I said last week, if it’s a choice between a full path to citizenship for DREAMers versus legalization for all illegals without any new special path to citizenship, I’ll take door number one. Read Mickey Kaus to see why door number two, i.e. legalizing illegals right away without any preset procedure for green cards, would be an utter messaging and policy disaster for the GOP. You’ll get no goodwill from Latinos for it; Democrats screeching about “second-class status” will see to that. And you’ll get no real leverage on border security from it if the initial legalization happens before the border is secured, which Democrats will absolutely insist on in one form or another. Case in point: The new “Gang of Seven” bill in the House wants “legalization first” for illegals, but proposes letting that legal status be rescinded if the feds can’t get E-Verify up and running in five years. Show of hands: Who thinks Democrats would happily acquiesce in letting illegals be re-illegalized five years from now because security measures are lagging? It’s a scam and a nonstarter.

If the House somehow convinced the Senate and Obama to accept a “legalization without citizenship” plan now, the Dems will simply browbeat the GOP into creating a citizenship path for illegals sometime in the next year or two, which means the House bill in due time will end up looking a lot like the Senate bill — a full amnesty in due course with no real guarantees of stronger border enforcement. If the name of the game here is building goodwill with Latinos, better to give sympathetic DREAMers a path to citizenship and leave the fate of everyone else to be determined later, when Republicans control Congress and can use that leverage to force real border guarantees in exchange for wider legalization. If Chuck Schumer thinks that’s not good enough, that’s fine. Let him and the Democrats in the Senate kill the House’s DREAM proposal.

For a sneak preview of the Democratic “second-class status” attack on Republicans, skip to 4:25 here and watch The One make the case to Telemundo Denver. If the House passes legalization without citizenship instead of DREAM, Schumer won’t be nearly this soft-spoken in pushing this talking point in 2014 and 2015.

So US taxpayers pay for the illegals’ WIC so that they can breed,
then they( illegals as well as their meal tickets) are given free housing, free food-stamps, free medical, free cars, free welfare-cash, free school, free food in schools, free obamaphones, free disablity payments, free clothing, free college , free public defenders, free rehab, free tatoo removal, and free everything…..what more are we supposed to give them ?

Boehner: It’s time to do something for the children of illegal immigrants.

No, it is not.

How about we take care of the children of US citizens first.

Then we maybe can address the needs of legal resident aliens…if there is sufficient money to go around, if we the People are flush with cash to make individual and personal donations…but not a cent of government funding.

And the illegals? Give our money to them?

How stupid is that?

It is the responsibility of the parents…the illegal immigrant parents to take care of their own kids.

Do something in 2017. You are dealing with an opposition party that does not deal with you in good faith. Priority number one should be to politically humiliate and defeat that party because they are a danger to the Republic.

As for solutions, portlandon’s are pretty good but not until 2017, but there will not be a 2017 by playing nice with the Ds.

Why is the only issue for these guys is handing out freebies to illegal aliens? They can never get off it.

Blake on July 17, 2013 at 4:52 PM

There is an unspoken assumption that if they put Hispanics on welfare they can create their own “captive” ethnic voting group. The problem, of course, is that the Democrats will always outspend them on giving away goodies.

We need a clean sweep of the House in 2014. Every Republican that votes for this atrocity needs to lose his seat. Conservatives should stay home from the polls. And furthermore, I don’t even care that we will have to turn things back over to Pelosi. It will only hasten the arrival of the day when can flush the whole thing down the toilet and start all over.

Naw, Boehner’s in bed with the Obama administration and has been since he became Speaker of the House (and really, so is the entire Republican leadership). There’s virtually nothing the Democrats have put in front of him that he hasn’t passed. Had gun control escaped the Senate, there is no doubt in my mind Boehner would have passed it too.

is this the pressing issue of the day? fairness for children of people who came here illegally?!? this is just so disgusting!

what about fairness for the people who can’t find a job? what about fairness for the children who will be saddled with this unsustainable debt? no, forget about them, we need to bend over for illegals to make them happy.

I’m looking over my copy of the Constitution. Nothing in there about the necessity of “doing something” for anyone.

arhooley on July 17, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Yep. In fact the Constitution is quite explicit about the opposite – the government is built for the citizenry and no one else:
“secure the Blessings of Liberty TO OURSELVES AND TO OUR POSTERITY“

All of these treasonous dirtbags need to be thrown out of government and forced to stand trial for their treasonous attempts to undermine the Constitution by giving aid and comfort to an invading enemy.

kids without a country if we don’t allow them to become full citizens of our country

but that’s not true..right? If they ‘came’ here from another country in the tow of their parent(s)..well, they have citizenship in their home country, the same as their parent(s)…right? Am I hallucinating?

I know that the Money drives everything in this country…and that the Left has the corner on the Huge Money…and that the Prog Rs and Business Rs hold the Money in the RNC…but just don’t lie. Don’t try to weep and sell a sad story…just tell the truth. Making Illegals legal is good for Business. See…that’s not hard.

For whatever it’s worth… the past several weeks my PC has been going nuts when I come to HotAir. The page crashes.. page freezes, I get a warning saying there is a bad script or a busy flash player. It is only this site.

Here’s what we could do… send them back to their countries of origin with their parents. It’s not MY fault that they’re in a bad position. It’s their parents’ faults.

Also, we need to pass an amendment that ENDS birthright citizenship. Anybody born here without at least one citizen parent shouldn’t be allowed automatic citizenship. That’s a hold-over from long ago, meant to address the needs of the children of slaves. It needs to be gone.

None of which entitles them to legal status in this country. Millions of American children are negatively affected every year in this country through no fault of their own. That doesn’t entitle them to things that doesn’t belong to them.

If a single Citizen or Legal Resident fails to get a job, a promotion, a decent wage or a place in a public university because Boehner gave their opportunity away to an illegal resident, then he has failed at his job.

They never want to talk about what the ‘dream’ will cost the kids of citizens.

Soon the USA will be a hell hole just like Mexico and then the fun will begin. Pass the popcorn please. These idiots care not for, nor have the slightest idea as to what a sovereign nation should look like. Pandering boneheads are leading this once great nation!

These “innocent” children were brought here exactly in the hope or assumption they would qualify for a bunch of freebies. If we stop the handouts, we at least stand a chance of stemming the tide of parents making this precise choice.

The GOP will keep doing this to us. Unless we punish them in a way they understand, there is no reason for them to stop. On the other hand, perhaps going over the cliff just can’t be avoided, regardless of what we do.

None of which entitles them to legal status in this country. Millions of American children are negatively affected every year in this country through no fault of their own. That doesn’t entitle them to things that doesn’t belong to them.

xblade on July 17, 2013 at 5:10 PM

In the public screwl system for one.
I am getting kids from TX, UT, CA, and other places coming here to ND who cannot keep up. Their education I can see has been pathetic.
Due to ESL learners.
They are very far behind ND. And I’m not satisfied ND is tough enough by itself.

What the Speaker (soon to be ex-Speaker I hope) is advocating is nothing more than codifying the policies of Mexifornia on a national basis in the name of ‘fairness’. It will tarnish the United States just as it has tarnished the ‘Golden State’.

…’In the name of fairness’ – the rallying cry of fascists, marxists, and useful idiots since Rousseau.

I don’t know about the rest of you, but my children are planning to put me in a forced labor camp in the not-so-distant future. Considering the 3rd world sh*th*le of a country that we baby boomers are leaving behind for them to deal with, I don’t blame them.

My collie says:

You sound bitter, CC. Lighten up. After all, your kids don’t really “hate” you. They just want to make certain that you receive all the “basic fairness” that you’ve got coming to you.

So how do we find all of the people already here on overstayed visas, or that will come and do the same, that don’t want to turn themselves in voluntarily? We never seem to address that when we talk about reform.

I’ll put my trust in Boehner. I’m sure he’ll get it done.

Heck let’s just make this easy. Open borders. Borders are such an old school notion anyway.

If you want to consider “fairness”, it would be fair to allow any citizen or legal resident who makes under $200,000.00 a year (the middle and working class) to not pay federal income taxes for the next 10 years. That’s fair, Boehner, you dumbass. Make that part of the immigration bill that the House is writing.

If you don’t do that, your flummery about “fairness” is just so much bullsh*t.

These jerk store specials like Boehner really dont care what the people want, do they? Like a parent trying to gently break bad news to a child, he keeps hinting at the Montreal Screw Job we are about to get…

If they pass amnesty in any form, we need to form a third party. Im done trying to fix this beyond broken party. The corruption and progressive values are entrenched, the only way to save the nation is to start over. The GOP has made almost no progress moving the country away from socialism, statism, or big government…they barely slow it down when in power.

Why do we buy the idea that the GOP is our only choice? The party is a failure…it has been for 85 to 90 of the last 100 years…if not for Reagan, Coolidge, and maybe Eisenhower, it would have been 100 years of completely progressive government.

Its time to do what Lincoln did….leave the old ideas behind and start anew. We will never turn this ship around with the GOP representing us in the wheelhouse…..

Is he just talking about those infants that couldn’t speak when they were brought here? If not, how does Boehner know this? Those kids might have been encouraging their parents with foot stomping rants, like, “I want a cookie. I don’t want to go to bed yet. I want to go to America where you can have all the cookies you want and don’t have to go to bed!”

The people who have them here broke their home country’s law, our law and the treaties between Nations and, thusly, international law.

Are the children to blame?

No.

Their parents are and must be held accountable for their misdeeds against Nations and violating international law willingly and wantonly to abuse the Nation they are going to. This does not deserve any sort of reward or special treatment.

And that is the position these elected ass-hats hold: one of accountability.

They wish to avoid that and destroy the Nation by their lack of accountability. That has been the aim and goal of the elites for over a century. Yet they cannot conceive of what happens when a Nation’s laws are held in no regard at all. And that violates the civil rights of all CITIZENS because we are then thrown back to natural law, and no fool wants that, save the elites and their bleeding heart backers. They detest the rule of law, but forget that the rule of man is the strong over the weak, the law that is red of tooth and claw.

If you want to consider “fairness”, it would be fair to allow any citizen or legal resident who makes under $200,000.00 a year (the middle and working class) to not pay federal income taxes for the next 10 years. That’s fair, Boehner, you dumbass. Make that part of the immigration bill that the House is writing.

If you don’t do that, your flummery about “fairness” is just so much bullsh*t.

jaime on July 17, 2013 at 5:19 PM

I would change the dollar figure so that CongressCritters remain taxpayers.

For that matter, what about the legal immigrant parent who came here and had to leave kids in their home countries while waiting the years-long sponsorship requirements to allow the children green cards. Guess they should’ve snuck in after all, huh?