I simply disagreed with your comment that you want a refund. I wouldn't buy a product that I researched that was, "missing features" or against my tastes, and if you researched it correctly and saw what you didn't like you wouldn't have bought it. If you did anyway that's a dumb move on your part.

Maybe instead of buying the OS and complaining about it, you should have looked more before you leaped. It makes you look like Apple can make you buy anything.

Would you return something that you didn't like because it turned out to be something that you didn't expect? Part of my research involves testing out software in order to determine if I like it or not. How am I supposed to know if something will work for me if I don't try it. What may work for you may not work for me or others and not all reviews, articles, and showcases will cover the 250 features apple advertise about. So you tell me how are you supposed to determine if this OS is right for you if you don't test it out for yourself. Reading and researching are also involve hands on testing and experimenting. I'm surprised that you do all your researches without testing. You must probably read and research about herpes and not do any testing for yourself. Oh, by the way you're an iPhone app developer. You probably develop software without testing them at all. Anyways, I'm done arguing with you. Bottom line, I'm getting my refund.

Would you return something that you didn't like because it turned out to be something that you didn't expect? Part of my research involves testing out software in order to determine if I like it or not. How am I supposed to know if something will work for me if I don't try it. What may work for you may not work for me or others and not all reviews, articles, and showcases will cover the 250 features apple advertise about. So you tell me how are you supposed to determine if this OS is right for you if you don't test it out for yourself. Reading and researching are also involve hands on testing and experimenting. I'm surprised that you do all your researches without testing. You must probably read and research about herpes and not do any testing for yourself. Oh, by the way you're an iPhone app developer. You probably develop software without testing them at all. Anyways, I'm done arguing with you.

It's part of the Job to test what I do make, obviously. Why would anyone put something on the market that doesn't work? Mac OS X Lion works. I have it. Whether you like something or not is not included in that testing. It's simply to make sure it gets the job done. What, are you going to complain if something is pink instead of black and demand a refund? And herpes; hows does that analogy even relate to this? Jesus, you were the strongest sperm? Software isn't like Hardware. In the case of software everything is the same. Hardware-wise every part is different and something can malfunction. That can be brought back to a store for a refund because you bought something that doesn't work. Software-wise, since its just several copies of the same code, if one works they all work. There's nothing to take back, you simply sit back and wait for updates. To demand refunds for 'missing features', or colors is childish.

Originally Posted by linuxduckie

Bottom line, I'm getting my refund.

Good luck with that, App Store sales are final, and digital downloads will always be in your possession; refunding it would be unheard of because there's nothing to return.

I've received at least 4 refunds over the last 3 years from the app store. Anyone that thinks you can tell anything from " other peoples" opinions is very seriously misguided. This may be the reason almost every store in every county has return policies. Even companies understand that a full picture cannot be painted without on-hands use. I don't understand how you can even argue the point. Apple stores have on-hands displays and still allow return of the products. And yes, you can return an app. There is something to return. They could remove licensing. This would force you to repurchase the app if you wanted it later. Doesn't take rocket science. A no return policy really lends to dishonesty, knowing the purchaser is screwed once it is purchased..may lead(or has led) to very misleading info on app descriptions. Everything everywhere should have return options. If your product is quality, it would not affect you at all. Any misleading info then could be considered accidental. With no return policy, misleading info seems intentional.

I will also add, software can be copied. This may be the snafu. But having an ecosystem like the app store should allow a lot more control over that.I know Windows can be deactivated remotely. The app store is suppose to be "the future". Let's not allow the "Buyer Beware" mentality to rule that future.

It's part of the Job to test what I do make, obviously. Why would anyone put something on the market that doesn't work? Mac OS X Lion works. I have it. Whether you like something or not is not included in that testing. It's simply to make sure it gets the job done. What, are you going to complain if something is pink instead of black and demand a refund? And herpes; hows does that analogy even relate to this? Jesus, you were the strongest sperm? Software isn't like Hardware. In the case of software everything is the same. Hardware-wise every part is different and something can malfunction. That can be brought back to a store for a refund because you bought something that doesn't work. Software-wise, since its just several copies of the same code, if one works they all work. There's nothing to take back, you simply sit back and wait for updates. To demand refunds for 'missing features', or colors is childish.

Good luck with that, App Store sales are final, and digital downloads will always be in your possession; refunding it would be unheard of because there's nothing to return.

Dang, you really don't have a clue. I'm happy for you that Lion worked out for you. Sadly it didn't worked out for me as it did with Tiger, Leopard, and Snow Leopard.

"Mac OS X Lion works!" lol, just like the iPhone4 and finalcut pro x, let's not forget this is the first release and it is not bug free - so ummm no it doesn't work. Try and do a clean install - oh wait, darnit I can't because "it just works!" oh hold up, I bought a copy of the same code and it should work with my hardware along with my other apps because I made sure I checked the minimum requirements and the software compatibility list. Obviously, you've never upgraded anything without problems in your life. Look at what happened to EMC on launched day, they had server issues because "Lion just works" =)

"It just works!"
Yes, you just keep telling yourself that buddy, "it just works" because Apple said so. I guess Apple can get you to believe anything they say. Lol!

I like Unix, that works. Mac is Unix with a pretty face. Umm yes I did get a mac because of the pretty colors and that was my deciding factor to go with mac rather than with ubuntu. Lion has ditched their pretty colors.

Yes, software can be returned. Just like you will when you decompose.

Originally Posted by oddphone20

i've received at least 4 refunds over the last 3 years from the app store. Anyone that thinks you can tell anything from " other peoples" opinions is very seriously misguided. This may be the reason almost every store in every county has return policies. Even companies understand that a full picture cannot be painted without on-hands use. I don't understand how you can even argue the point. Apple stores have on-hands displays and still allow return of the products. And yes, you can return an app. There is something to return. They could remove licensing. This would force you to repurchase the app if you wanted it later. Doesn't take rocket science. A no return policy really lends to dishonesty, knowing the purchaser is screwed once it is purchased..may lead(or has led) to very misleading info on app descriptions. Everything everywhere should have return options. If your product is quality, it would not affect you at all. Any misleading info then could be considered accidental. With no return policy, misleading info seems intentional.

I will also add, software can be copied. This may be the snafu. But having an ecosystem like the app store should allow a lot more control over that.i know windows can be deactivated remotely. The app store is suppose to be "the future". Let's not allow the "buyer beware" mentality to rule that future.