Nanny Accused Of Killing Two Children: 'I'm paid to watch the children, not clean up and do housework'http://www.businessinsider.com/krim-child-murders-update-2012-11/comments
en-usWed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500Sun, 02 Aug 2015 16:31:44 -0400Abby Rogershttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/50945e2e69beddad56000001Half the story????Fri, 02 Nov 2012 19:58:38 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50945e2e69beddad56000001
There is no other half. She killed two innocent kids - that's all the story there is.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50945657ecad04501f000017JodieFri, 02 Nov 2012 19:25:11 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50945657ecad04501f000017
Ortega was a naturalized citizen. Get informed. And Marina Krim was a stay at home mother who rarely left her children alone with the nanny. They also paid for a trip to the Dominican Republic so Ortega could visit her family there.
I guess it's "ok" to now start butchering small children because you feel underpaid and don't do a good job, then get mad that you're held accountable to do a good job. Also, how dare they give her extra hours for extra money but doing housework which is clearing beneath her! Poor thing. Who can blame her for butchering two innocent children?!
Seriously. What is this world coming to?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5094518969beddec37000011JodieFri, 02 Nov 2012 19:04:41 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5094518969beddec37000011
this "nanny" needs to be tortured, slaughtered and given a slow and painful death. Period. End of story.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50944840ecad040c0700000aDebraJMSmithFri, 02 Nov 2012 18:25:04 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50944840ecad040c0700000a
It's not a wise thing do to, to allow a nanny to continue to watch your children after having threatened her with the possibility of being fired for not doing a good enough job.
Not smart.
Debra...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50941c0069bedd993200000esmokeFri, 02 Nov 2012 15:16:16 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50941c0069bedd993200000e
The lawsuit is a fact and CNBC pulled the report after the murders, this appears to be an assassination, to silence reports on ie., women do not slash their throats.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/509403d669bedd627b00000bJohn Galt in TOFri, 02 Nov 2012 13:33:10 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/509403d669bedd627b00000b
I heard about the CNBC story and was wondering if this article was related to that. Seems a little questionable to me too.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50940379eab8ea7c47000004JonFri, 02 Nov 2012 13:31:37 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50940379eab8ea7c47000004
They weren't stealing time from her. They offered to pay her.
"to do housework in exchange for earning extra money — something the family did because they believed they were helping their cash-strapped nanny"
Shecould have said no. She was upset that they called her out on not doing a good job.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/509400b269bedd5770000028Mr. ObviousFri, 02 Nov 2012 13:19:46 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/509400b269bedd5770000028
$50 an hour? Get real - go to Craigslist and see what people are being paid. In the mid-west, the rate is $10 an hour, if that. In California, the rate is higher on official listings, but the use of au pairs and illegal labor seriously drives down actual wages. Nanny positions are honestly filled by slaves and it is NOT unusual to read stories of extremely wealthy couples being prosecuted for 13th Amendment violations, wage / hour violations, tax evasion / etc. because of how they don't pay / do pay their nannies. We won't even touch the rampant 1099 fraud that's going on.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5093ffb76bb3f7245f000038A poor family? Sorry, not newsFri, 02 Nov 2012 13:15:35 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5093ffb76bb3f7245f000038
We starve for news from celebrities, royalty, the rich and powerful.
It's not a US phenomenon. It already happened in the Assyrian Empire 3,400 years ago. Those days, the chronicles of the Emperor's family were all the rage. For 1,000 years there wasn't a single commentary about the way the poor were treated.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5093fe0aeab8ea3c3800000fGood pointFri, 02 Nov 2012 13:08:26 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5093fe0aeab8ea3c3800000f
Q - Why is murder more horrific when it happens to a one-percenter?
A - Because deep inside, the most ignorant among us envy and root for the rich at the same timehttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/5093fd8a69bedd906a000013BenskyFri, 02 Nov 2012 13:06:18 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5093fd8a69bedd906a000013
One seriously mentally-ill woman. Weren't there other signs before she snapped..http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5093fb8feab8eaec37000001NickoFri, 02 Nov 2012 12:57:51 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5093fb8feab8eaec37000001
The thing is, these low paid migrant workers have low education, may not have developed critical thinking skills, may be ultra religious, superstitious, hold strange concepts of honor with their personal identity. Treat these people like slaves, pushong them psychologically day in and day out...some will crack. I have a feeling we are only getting half the story here...perhaps there was verbal and psychological abuse going on. Not to mention the possibility of undiagnosed psychological disorders. Too bad it ended in a bloodbath.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5093fb56ecad04527500001fNanny's aren't nearly that cheap...Fri, 02 Nov 2012 12:56:54 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5093fb56ecad04527500001f
$10 an hour? Are you out of your mind? A good Nanny in NYC will cost you 4 or 5 times that much and unless you live in nowheresville, USA, you'll never hire a decent Nanny at $10 an hour.
I can't even hire a decent part time babysitter for less than $20/hr assuming I want something more than a high school or college student.
A good Nanny is college educated, speaks multiple languages, and is a gourmet level chef and they are paid a premium. They typically have a degree in childhood education or one of the arts. They are masters of time management, have pristine driving records, etc, etc, etc.
Look for a deal and you get what you pay for. Good nanny's are far from cheap and $10/hr would be incredibly cheap even for a pretty poor Nanny.
This Nanny's comments are ridiculous on face as are most of the responses. She wasn't asked to do more work for no pay, the family offered her more money for the additional duties (it's in black and white in the article above). The simple answer is that if you don't want to do those extra duties, decline them and run the risk of your employer finding someone that will.
One huge mistake the family made, telling the Nanny her performance was poor and that she might be replaced. You never tell a Nanny or any other type of hired help within your home of that fact. You simply fire them and replace them when you believe their work isn't satisfactory, but you never threaten someone's job and then leave them alone in your home (even more dangerous is leaving them alone in your home with your children). That's just foolish beyond comprehension.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5093fa1a6bb3f78256000007smokeFri, 02 Nov 2012 12:51:38 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5093fa1a6bb3f78256000007
Also women never commit suicide by cutting their throats, if anyone doubts this , do a search on this, it is a fact, this appears to be more of an outside hit .http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5093f8bbeab8ea0030000009Mr. ObviousFri, 02 Nov 2012 12:45:47 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5093f8bbeab8ea0030000009
What exactly is the point of having kids if you're going to pay people to raise them? News flash - when you're paying people $10 an hour to watch your children, you're likely to have bad things happen because those people aren't going to be the greatest people on the face of the planet. I'd love to know if "Ortega" was an illegal immigrant or was being paid under the table. If so, it shouldn't surprise the family that when they break labor laws and try to create a wage slave, things blow up in their faces.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5093f898ecad040771000022smokeFri, 02 Nov 2012 12:45:12 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5093f898ecad040771000022
Well it is strange that CNBC senior VP kevin krim had let a report run on CNBC about the 43 TRILLION DOLLAR LAWSUIT filed against some of the biggest new york banks and some of the biggest heavy hitters on wall street and at the FED and then after the murders of the krim children the report is pulled from the CNBC site and no mention at all after the murders.
The reports on the 43 TRILLION DOLLAR LAWSUIT by SPIRE LAW GROUP are still being carried on other sites and the report of the lawsuit can still be found in MARKET WATCH archives, so there is more to this than meets the eye, this has the appearance of much more , much much more.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5093f129ecad045066000001YisterwaldFri, 02 Nov 2012 12:13:29 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5093f129ecad045066000001
Crazy. This just happened again yesterday in Naperville, Illinois. A woman stabbed her own son and the girl she was babysitting to death.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5093f068eab8ea041b00000aSteve StevensonFri, 02 Nov 2012 12:10:16 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5093f068eab8ea041b00000a
Is this only news because the kids were from a Comcast exec?
What about the unnamed unknown murders in cities and towns?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5093eed5eab8ea2d1b000001Joe CassandraFri, 02 Nov 2012 12:03:33 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5093eed5eab8ea2d1b000001
If everyone killed someone every time their boss had them do something that "wasn't in the job description" there'd be no one lefthttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/5093ee6becad049c5d00000bstaidFri, 02 Nov 2012 12:01:47 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5093ee6becad049c5d00000b
Frightening reason to kill two innocent children. Wow.