The U.S. delegation to an upcoming United Nations telecom treaty-writing conference will not budge on its positions advocating free speech online and opposing broad new regulations for the Internet, the leader of the delegation said.

/But..but ....how can we control the minds of our citizenry if we don't control what they think, read, hear, and squash any opportunity for them to have a different opinion or beliefs than what we have? Wahhhhhhhh. Fark you China and N. Korea and any other country that oppresses civil rights.

"It began spontaneously in Benghazi as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in Cairo, where of course as you know there was a violent protest outside of our embassy sparked by this hateful video" - Susan Rice

"The future does not belong to those who slander Islam." - Barack Obama saying the most American statement of all time EVER!

/Barack Obama has announced that Thanksgiving has been renamed as Those Hateful Pilgrims Full Of Hate Against The Church Of England Can Go fark Themselves Day//the internet film maker is now serving a year in jail///Everytime someone who voted for Obama goes to jail for a non-violent drug offense, he gets what he deserves

People are confusing free speech for criminal speech. Just because you do it online doesn't mean it is legal. PIPA and SOPA wouldn't exist if so many dipshiats wouldn't so brazenly violate copyright law (notice that I didn't say stealing).

"It began spontaneously in Benghazi as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in Cairo, where of course as you know there was a violent protest outside of our embassy sparked by this hateful video" - Susan Rice

"The future does not belong to those who slander Islam." - Barack Obama saying the most American statement of all time EVER!

/Barack Obama has announced that Thanksgiving has been renamed as Those Hateful Pilgrims Full Of Hate Against The Church Of England Can Go fark Themselves Day//the internet film maker is now serving a year in jail///Everytime someone who voted for Obama goes to jail for a non-violent drug offense, he gets what he deserves

chuckufarlie:the UN spends all of its time and a lot of our money trying to be relevant. It's time to close it down.

Gotta tell you, I'm getting to that point where I say fark it. And I support their stated mission. But the executrion has been so piss poor that I can't justify any of my tax money, no matter how small the actual slice is, going to that pit.

madgonad:People are confusing free speech for criminal speech. Just because you do it online doesn't mean it is legal. PIPA and SOPA wouldn't exist if so many dipshiats wouldn't so brazenly violate copyright law (notice that I didn't say stealing).

Also, copyright and patent law need to be completely retooled.

Well the way the UN is talking is that they want control of it to basically censor anything they want, I hate our government but there is no way the UN needs to be in control of anything, they fark up more than any other nation. Also hidden is some of their bills is how they want an international tax on wealthier countries to build out infrastructure to poorer nations, which is just stupid since they dont have devices needed to take advantage of high speed access and wireless with decent speeds reach them now, although its not cheap.

"It began spontaneously in Benghazi as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in Cairo, where of course as you know there was a violent protest outside of our embassy sparked by this hateful video" - Susan Rice

"The future does not belong to those who slander Islam." - Barack Obama saying the most American statement of all time EVER!

/Barack Obama has announced that Thanksgiving has been renamed as Those Hateful Pilgrims Full Of Hate Against The Church Of England Can Go fark Themselves Day//the internet film maker is now serving a year in jail///Everytime someone who voted for Obama goes to jail for a non-violent drug offense, he gets what he deserves

"It began spontaneously in Benghazi as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in Cairo, where of course as you know there was a violent protest outside of our embassy sparked by this hateful video" - Susan Rice

"The future does not belong to those who slander Islam." - Barack Obama saying the most American statement of all time EVER!

/Barack Obama has announced that Thanksgiving has been renamed as Those Hateful Pilgrims Full Of Hate Against The Church Of England Can Go fark Themselves Day//the internet film maker is now serving a year in jail///Everytime someone who voted for Obama goes to jail for a non-violent drug offense, he gets what he deserves

yeegrek:chuckufarlie: the UN spends all of its time and a lot of our money trying to be relevant. It's time to close it down.

Gotta tell you, I'm getting to that point where I say fark it. And I support their stated mission. But the executrion has been so piss poor that I can't justify any of my tax money, no matter how small the actual slice is, going to that pit.

I think its because in the past few decades it has turned from being an organization that helps impoverished nations to a organization that just exists to punish those nations that succeed and seems to blame the rich nations for making the impoverished nations poor.

Life would certainly be much more pleasant if we never heard an opinion we disagreed with or were offended by. The UK and other countries are attempting to apply this principle to their entire societies.

Sweet bejeebus! What a bunch of jingoistic whagarrble. These "regulations" have nothing to do with censorship. Last I checked, China and Autralia are censoring things up just fine, and all the help they needed they got from Google.

Captain Kierk:Sweet bejeebus! What a bunch of jingoistic whagarrble. These "regulations" have nothing to do with censorship. Last I checked, China and Autralia are censoring things up just fine, and all the help they needed they got from Google.

Not a big fan of Google but just follows the laws of the countries they do business in.

steamingpile:yeegrek: chuckufarlie: the UN spends all of its time and a lot of our money trying to be relevant. It's time to close it down.

Gotta tell you, I'm getting to that point where I say fark it. And I support their stated mission. But the executrion has been so piss poor that I can't justify any of my tax money, no matter how small the actual slice is, going to that pit.

I think its because in the past few decades it has turned from being an organization that helps impoverished nations to a organization that just exists to punish those nations that succeed and seems to blame the rich nations for making the impoverished nations poor.

The US has not been a perfect steward of the Internet, but they've been considerably less intolerable than any other entity we currently know of would be, including the UN. Sealand might be better from a philosophical standpoint, but they don't have the capacity to make it work.

Yay, a First Amendment thread! Something I say every time: our concept of free speech and censorship is considerably different than what's followed by the rest of the world. "Unrestricted firehose" remains the best analogy for how our constitution treats free speech.

"It began spontaneously in Benghazi as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in Cairo, where of course as you know there was a violent protest outside of our embassy sparked by this hateful video" - Susan Rice

"The future does not belong to those who slander Islam." - Barack Obama saying the most American statement of all time EVER!

/Barack Obama has announced that Thanksgiving has been renamed as Those Hateful Pilgrims Full Of Hate Against The Church Of England Can Go fark Themselves Day//the internet film maker is now serving a year in jail///Everytime someone who voted for Obama goes to jail for a non-violent drug offense, he gets what he deserves

Life would certainly be much more pleasant if we never heard an opinion we disagreed with or were offended by. The UK and other countries are attempting to apply this principle to their entire societies.

Except that's not what the ingore list is for. B- and others make the ignore list bexause their 'opinions' have shown to be not worth reading, or downright trolling. I have yet to meet this mythical farker who ignores people just because he disagrees with them or finds them offensive, hell Most people on this site are offensive

Life would certainly be much more pleasant if we never heard an opinion we disagreed with or were offended by. The UK and other countries are attempting to apply this principle to their entire societies.

Except that's not what the ingore list is for. B- and others make the ignore list bexause their 'opinions' have shown to be not worth reading, or downright trolling. I have yet to meet this mythical farker who ignores people just because he disagrees with them or finds them offensive, hell Most people on this site are offensive

There are certain people I think are idiots that I have ignored, but that's about it. The good trolls are actually favorited.

The headline's a total straw-man. There's nothing in there that indicates that _anybody_'s especially looking to restrict speech on the internet. That said, the key words are there.

"Instead of creating new regulations that could affect the Internet, the ITU should do away with the international telecom regulations, he said. Instead of the ITU, private companies and civil society should come up with rules for interconnection and other telecom issues, he said."

This is about removing net neutrality.

Looks like the telecom lobbyists are still looking for carte blanche to throttle your connection based on your destination if those sites don't pay through the nose for preferential treatment.

WillyChase:Except that's not what the ingore list is for. B- and others make the ignore list bexause their 'opinions' have shown to be not worth reading, or downright trolling. I have yet to meet this mythical farker who ignores people just because he disagrees with them or finds them offensive, hell Most people on this site are offensive

Don't worry about it. That's just the argument that people who are on a lot of ignore lists use.

I guess they go out in their daily life and seek out crazy people, people they hate, and people who are just offensive assholes, and listen to them for hours. Because THEY don't ignore people. Nope. They wouldn't do something so shallow.