Younger Americans die earlier and live in poorer health than their counterparts in other developed countries, with far higher rates of death from guns, car accidents and drug addiction, according to a new analysis of health and longevity in the United States.

I wonder why so many US-Americans suffer diabetes? Isn't that an inherited problem?

The United States has the highest infant mortality rate among these countries, and its young people have the highest rates of sexually transmitted diseases, teen pregnancy and deaths from car crashes. Americans lose more years of life before age 50 to alcohol and drug abuse than people in any of the other countries.

As for the causes, are STDs, teen pregnancy, car crashes, drugs & alcohol, etc. related to a lack of socialized health care? No.

On SPON they state, the 'corrected' median of these goverments spending on health care is at $3200 and the US spent $8000 per citizen. where does the money go?_________________Gentoo on Uptime Project - Larry is a cow

The United States has the highest infant mortality rate among these countries, and its young people have the highest rates of sexually transmitted diseases, teen pregnancy and deaths from car crashes. Americans lose more years of life before age 50 to alcohol and drug abuse than people in any of the other countries.

I wonder why so many US-Americans suffer diabetes? Isn't that an inherited problem?

Diabetes is on the rise in the EU as well

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Diabetes is increasing rapidly in every part of the world,
to the extent that it has now assumed epidemic proportions.
Estimates suggest that more than 6% of the population aged
20-79 years in EU member states, or 30 million people, had
diabetes in 2011, with 42% of diabetic adults aged less than
60 years (IDF, 2011; Whiting et al., 2011). If left unchecked, the
number of people with diabetes in EU member states will
reach more than 35 million in less than 20 years.

why are you so sure? the worse off are likely to have health problems and likely not to have good care.

The less worse off are likely to have good health care but a lack of "acceptance" for taking care of yourself, so I don't see that as meaningful differentiating factor. What are the recommendations for flu? Don't go to work at the first sign of a symptom? LOL. Yeah, right. And yes, I'm well aware that most part-time employees won't even think of it due to not getting paid / no vacation.

So, yeah, if I have no choice but to go to the emergency room, I won't be at work, and I'll have insurance coverage. But that doesn't really affect STDs or pregnancy (condoms aren't that expensive, and abstinence is free). Though it could I suppose lead to crashes and alcohol / drug abuse. But that isn't a socialized / not-socialized issue._________________lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.

Actually it comes from a Neil Young song (the one that goes, "My my, hey hey...".

As to these statistics, the U.S. has a problem with ethnic violence (gangs) in its inner cities. Lately, we've also got an obesity epidemic._________________History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have exhausted all other alternatives. -- Abba Eban

As for the causes, are STDs, teen pregnancy, car crashes, drugs & alcohol, etc. related to a lack of socialized health care? No.

why are you so sure? the worse off are likely to have health problems and likely not to have good care.

Why are lefties so dead set on destroying humanity by nullifying natural selection? "Social Darwinism" isn't some conspiracy; it's nature._________________History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have exhausted all other alternatives. -- Abba Eban

You get about 20 sugar cubes' worth of high fructose corn syrup in just one can ... along with enough phosphoric acid to leach the bones right out of your body. (Phosphorus binds with calcium.) It's a drink that actually makes you thirsty, so you grab another can.

Proud to say I haven't drunk one in thirty years. Pissed that I was addicted to 'em for twenty before that.

You get about 20 sugar cubes' worth of high fructose corn syrup in just one can ... along with enough phosphoric acid to leach the bones right out of your body. (Phosphorus binds with calcium.) It's a drink that actually makes you thirsty, so you grab another can.

Proud to say I haven't drunk one in thirty years. Pissed that I was addicted to 'em for twenty before that.

I usually drink in a day:
1xlarge mug of coffee at work
1x2l bottle of water during the day

As for the causes, are STDs, teen pregnancy, car crashes, drugs & alcohol, etc. related to a lack of socialized health care? No.

why are you so sure? the worse off are likely to have health problems and likely not to have good care.

Why are lefties so dead set on destroying humanity by nullifying natural selection? "Social Darwinism" isn't some conspiracy; it's nature.

so are high maternal mortality, low life expectancy and disease. I don't like those things either. Call me crazy, but I think one of the benefits of society is that those things are largely kept at bay.

why are you so sure? the worse off are likely to have health problems and likely not to have good care.

The less worse off are likely to have good health care but a lack of "acceptance" for taking care of yourself, so I don't see that as meaningful differentiating factor. What are the recommendations for flu? Don't go to work at the first sign of a symptom? LOL. Yeah, right. And yes, I'm well aware that most part-time employees won't even think of it due to not getting paid / no vacation.

So, yeah, if I have no choice but to go to the emergency room, I won't be at work, and I'll have insurance coverage. But that doesn't really affect STDs or pregnancy (condoms aren't that expensive, and abstinence is free). Though it could I suppose lead to crashes and alcohol / drug abuse. But that isn't a socialized / not-socialized issue.

why do people in france/england/anywhere have a better acceptance of taking care of themselves?

Here, you learn to. When we had a baby, they send a health visitor to your house daily for two weeks to check up on things. Just to give advice, answer any questions you might have etc. Lots of stuff I didn't know, so that was great. If your only interaction with health care is in an emergency form, you are unlikely to have the tools and knowledge to keep yourself healthy.

Teenage pregnancy is probably a social issue. STDs are likely a social issue as well as a healthcare/knowledge issue (I have met adults who didn't know where babies come from). alcohol and drug abuse sounds mixed too. I don't see how you can divorce those things from easy access to healthcare.

As for the causes, are STDs, teen pregnancy, car crashes, drugs & alcohol, etc. related to a lack of socialized health care? No.

why are you so sure? the worse off are likely to have health problems and likely not to have good care.

Why are lefties so dead set on destroying humanity by nullifying natural selection? "Social Darwinism" isn't some conspiracy; it's nature.

so are high maternal mortality, low life expectancy and disease. I don't like those things either. Call me crazy, but I think one of the benefits of society is that those things are largely kept at bay.

Those things are kept at bay by education, which doesn't work on the urban or rural poor, or coercion, which doesn't work on the rural or urban poor.
Or maybe some other things.
But lifestyle choices among the underclass is a part of the problem.

As for the causes, are STDs, teen pregnancy, car crashes, drugs & alcohol, etc. related to a lack of socialized health care? No.

why are you so sure? the worse off are likely to have health problems and likely not to have good care.

Why are lefties so dead set on destroying humanity by nullifying natural selection? "Social Darwinism" isn't some conspiracy; it's nature.

so are high maternal mortality, low life expectancy and disease. I don't like those things either. Call me crazy, but I think one of the benefits of society is that those things are largely kept at bay.

Those things are kept at bay by education, which doesn't work on the urban or rural poor, or coercion, which doesn't work on the rural or urban poor.
Or maybe some other things.
But lifestyle choices among the underclass is a part of the problem.

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There's a certain point where individual responsibility must count for something. There's a certain point where we cross the threshold from "equal opportunity" to "egalitarianism". If mankind begins to live by a philosophy of absolute egalitarianism, we might as well just go ahead and nuke ourselves off the planet now and get it over with, because we'll be like the Idiocracy movie within a couple generations. People bandy about the term "social justice" as though it means the latter (absolute egalitarianism), rather than the former (equal opportunity, or as it was once put, "the pursuit of happiness"), and I think that's a misguided and ultimately devastating line of reasoning.

Meanwhile, there are others who are absolutely opposed to providing any help for the unfortunate or incapable, and twist the thinking I've outlined above to suit themselves, arguing against any and all attempts to provide people that equal opportunity. That's not right either. People need to be honest about what they want and what they mean, and ease up on the populist bullshit and propaganda, because we've reached a point where there are more people spewing bullshit than talking sense, and the average person is clueless._________________History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have exhausted all other alternatives. -- Abba Eban

You get about 20 sugar cubes' worth of high fructose corn syrup in just one can ... along with enough phosphoric acid to leach the bones right out of your body. (Phosphorus binds with calcium.) It's a drink that actually makes you thirsty, so you grab another can.

Proud to say I haven't drunk one in thirty years. Pissed that I was addicted to 'em for twenty before that.

why do people in france/england/anywhere have a better acceptance of taking care of themselves?

They're already unemployed, so they don't fear losing their job? :D j/k On a more serious but related note, maybe it has to do with productivity expectations. For me personally, I'm rarely sick. Of course, being overweight & sedentary is a different issue, but I guess that's the cost of productivity.

juniper wrote:

Here, you learn to. When we had a baby, they send a health visitor to your house daily for two weeks to check up on things. Just to give advice, answer any questions you might have etc. Lots of stuff I didn't know, so that was great.

Sounds expensive and very optional. No thanks.

juniper wrote:

Teenage pregnancy is probably a social issue. STDs are likely a social issue as well as a healthcare/knowledge issue (I have met adults who didn't know where babies come from). alcohol and drug abuse sounds mixed too. I don't see how you can divorce those things from easy access to healthcare.

I was in agreement with you in observing they were probably social issues. But I was surprised when you thought they couldn't be divorced from healthcare. I don't see how they can be joined. (Well, anything could theoretically be combined, not that it would make sense to do so)._________________lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.