"Doing more exercise with less intensity,"
Arthur Jones believes, "has all but
destroyed the actual great value
of weight training. Something
must be done . . . and quickly."
The New Bodybuilding for
Old-School Results supplies
MUCH of that "something."

This is one of 93 photos of Andy McCutcheon that are used in The New High-Intensity Training to illustrate the recommended exercises.

All great machines, I would love to have a behind the neck. I've seen the others,from time to time,on Ebay but I've never seen a behind the neck. I don't always check Ebay but usually once a week.
I don't know why they're not up for sale more often unless the owners really don't want to part with them or perhaps not many were sold in comparison to the others.
Good luck, I hope you get what you want at a fair price.

All great machines, I would love to have a behind the neck. I've seen the others,from time to time,on Ebay but I've never seen a behind the neck. I don't always check Ebay but usually once a week.
I don't know why they're not up for sale more often unless the owners really don't want to part with them or perhaps not many were sold in comparison to the others.
Good luck, I hope you get what you want at a fair price.[/quote]
I had this BTN on North Jersey craigslist a few times last year for $700. A few time wasters but I still have it in a corner of my garage covered.Could anyone tell me if it's first or second gen.? Thanks

. I've seen the others,from time to time,on Ebay but I've never seen a behind the neck. I don't always check Ebay but usually once a week.
I don't know why they're not up for sale more often unless the owners really don't want to part with them or perh

==Scott==
I can remember when a behind the neck like the one pictured was my hearts desire. I finally traded a pec deck for one.As it turned out I never really used it as much as I thought I would. Too wide for my puny shoulder width? My son likes it though.He's bigger boned than I am. Then I got the BNTA and I like it a tad better( fits me better)but I still use my pullover much more often. I remember finding if I didn't perform my reps just right I could feel discomfort in my shoulders?

I found it worked well but I had to make some tough choices when I had to use my garage for a garage where I had some of my nautilus machines set up. I sold a compound leg, York vintage dumbells and rack [5-80],a separate leg press and leg extension. Besides the BTN I have a leg curl and rear delt in "storage".