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Tuesday, June 24, 2014

Why is Mr. Children still so popular after almost 20 years?

(Repost)

1： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 19:02:56.25 0 ID:

メロディーラインの良さに尽きるよな

エルビスコステロのパクリとか言うやついるけど僻みにしか聞こえないわIt's all about how good the melody of their songs are, right?There are those who are saying that they're just ripping off Elvis Costello's style, but those people are just jealous.

They have so many hits, you can't decide on which one to make as their banner song.

13： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 19:10:37.85 0 ID:

最近はメロディの良さを字余り歌詞が台無しにしてる感もある

Recently though, I feel that their nice melodies are wasted since they seem to be overdoing their lyrics.

17： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 19:12:40.80 0 ID:

演歌っていうかフォークっていうか日本人になじみがあるんだろうな

正直クソ面白くもないんだけどw

I don't know if you can call their music enka or folk, but I think the Japanese are used to this kind of stuff. I honestly think they're boring, though.

19： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 19:13:07.14 O ID:

代表曲はREMってやつ

これ聴いてミスチル終わったなと思ったね

Their banner song is this one titled REM. I felt like "Mr. Children's finished" after hearing this one.

34： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 19:27:44.45 i ID:

>>19

REMいいじゃん

あの感じ久々だから嬉しい

REM is good. It's been a while since they had songs like that so I'm happy with it.

26： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 19:20:54.12 0 ID:

一時期落ち目だったけど桜井の小脳梗塞が盛り返しに繋がった印象

They were on the decline at one point, but Sakurai's cerebellum blockage felt like it led to their comeback.

28： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 19:21:38.08 0 ID:

何かでみたけど桜井の声質は母性本能をくすぐるって書いてあったな

I read somewhere that Sakurai's voice tickles one's maternal instinct

31： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 19:24:35.99 0 ID:

バラードしか無い印象

なので惹かれるものがない

I feel that all they sing are ballads, and nothing is really attractive

32： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 19:24:37.23 0 ID:

最近はアレンジが過剰すぎる

作曲や声の衰えを厚化粧でごまかしてる感じ

Their arrangements are a bit overboard these days. It's like they're trying to cover up his deteriorated songwriting and voice with a ton of makeup.

35： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 19:28:04.49 0 ID:

この手のスレは必ず評論家気取りのキモヲタが湧くなｗ

Kimo-otas (kimoi= disgusting; ota=otakus) who feel like critics will always make noise on threads like these without fail LOL

40： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 19:30:50.49 0 ID:

よく飽きられないな

サウンド変えてうまくやってるのかな

It's amazing that people don't get sick of them. They must be doing well by changing their sound.

44： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 19:32:19.71 0 ID:

かといって微妙なバンド好きって言っても変な顔されるけどな

好きな芸能人とか歌手とか人に言うときは大体有名で無難なの答えるな

And even if you tell other people that you like some unknown band, they'd just look at you with a strange face. We just have this tendency to answer safely when asked who our favorite celebrities and singers are.

46： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 19:33:18.75 0 ID:

メジャーデビュー前はジュンスカの弟分って紹介されてたな

たしか当時の事務所が同じだったと思う

Prior to their major label debut, they were introduced as the Jun Sky Walker(s)' 'little brothers'. I think they were in the same agency back then.

http://www.geocities.co.jp/HeartLand-Poplar/5863/jsw.jpg

47： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 19:33:46.43 0 ID:

HANABI以降の楽曲は不発感が否めない

I get the feeling that all their songs that came after HANABI have been duds.

48： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 19:35:59.75 0 ID:

ミスチルより売れる歌手が出てこないからな最近の日本では

ミスチルの真似ばっかして音楽やってる気になってるのが多いみたいだし

No act from Japan that will surpass Mr. Children in terms of sales has emerged yet. I think though that there are a lot of bands who are trying to imitate them.

49： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 19:36:49.31 0 ID:

ドラムが気持ちいい

The drum parts feel good

http://mrchildrenschildren.web.fc2.com/suzuki.jpg

51： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 19:37:24.56 0 ID:

東京ドームの警備のバイトしてたときにライブをガッツリ見れたのは良い思い出

It was a good memory of mine when I worked part-time as a security at Tokyo Dome and got to see their concert in full.

55： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 19:41:44.43 0 ID:

日本にここまでスタジアム的なバンドいないだろ

オゥエイシスレベルのスタジアムバンド

There are no other stadium bands like this in Japan. They're on the same level as Oasis.

62： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 19:54:15.50 0 ID:

そりゃこんだけ売れてりゃ金もあるしモテるだろな

貧乏人やモテないやつからは嫉妬されまくるだろうが

They probably have a lot of money and get all the girls when they're selling so much like this. I bet the poor and the unpopular ones are all jealous of them.

63： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 19:56:53.68 0 ID:

コステロに歌い方っていうか声が似てたのって1996年前後じゃないのかといつも思う

その他の時期は違うと思う

Saying they sing like Costello, I think that was before 1996. I think their other phases are different.

65： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 19:58:48.52 0 ID:

俺の中では「tomorrow never knows」で終わってる

後は惰性だな

For me they stopped being good after "Tomorrow never knows". It feels like they have just been riding on that momentum ever since.

66： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 20:00:14.25 0 ID:

「抱きしめたい」が一番だね

まだ大ブレイクする前の曲だけど

ちなみに広末が一番好きなのも「抱きしめたい」

I like "Dakishimetai" the best. It was a song before their huge break, though. Hirosue also likes that song the best.

68： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 20:02:02.69 0 ID:

バンプ ラッド セカオワ あたりがミスチルの後継者だと思う

I think Bump of Chicken, Radwimps, and Sekai no owari are Mr. Children's successors.

71： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 20:07:00.26 0 ID:

>>68

おま・・・ねーよ

まだコブクロやスキマスイッチならわかるが

あと腐乱プールとかいう雑魚もない

Hey you... no way... I'd understand Kobukuro and Sukimaswitch though. And don't even think of mentioing that trash band flumpool.

70： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 20:04:10.64 0 ID:

tomorrow never knowsは萩原聖人主演の「若者のすべて」の主題歌

このドラマをきっかけにキムタコのウルトラブレイクが始まる

まだこの時点では連ドラの主役ではなかった

tommorow never knows was used as the main theme song for Masato Hagiwara's Wakamono no subete. This was also the drama that led to the nationwide KimuTako ultra boom. He still wasn't playing lead roles in serial dramas up to this point.

http://pds2.exblog.jp/pds/1/201110/14/83/e0219583_171911.jpg

72： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 20:08:41.31 0 ID:

tomorrow never knowsがもう19年も前の曲か

So tomorrow never knows is already 19 years old.

74： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 20:11:40.22 0 ID:

まだ20代だが俺の今の年齢でこんなすごい曲書いてたのかよと思うとバケモノかよと思う

I'm still in my 20s and I honestly think that they were beasts for writing amazing songs like this at the same age as me.

78： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 20:17:34.72 P ID:

桜井くんのセンスや歌詞は正直あまり理解できないがメロディメーカーの才能は天性のもの

ディズニーや任天堂に通じるものがある

I honestly don't understand Sakurai-kun's lyrical sense, but I think his talent as a melody maker is an inborn talent. There's something about him that's similar to Disney and Nintendo.

79： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 20:18:19.65 0 ID:

ミルシルはＣＤバブルの９０年代初頭にブレイクできたのが大きいけど

万夫はＣＤ売れなくなった時代に登場して露出もほとんどなく

純粋な音楽だけを評価されて１０年安定して売れ続けてる偉大なバンド

It was pretty huge for Mr. Children to catch their break in the 90's during the CD bubble era, but Bump of Chicken is this great band that appeared in the era where CDs weren't flying off shelves like they used to. They didn't get too much exposure and have been around for 10 years as people have recognized them for their music.

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/539/BUMP+OF+CHICKEN.jpg

82： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 20:21:11.46 0 ID:

パンプ厨きもすぎ

あれのどこがいいのかさっぱり

まだラッドの方がいいわ

You Bump fans are so disgusting. I really don't understand what's so good with them. Rad is better than them.

84： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 20:21:48.16 0 ID:

>>82

お前の好みはどうでもいい

お前なんぞの発言には何の価値も無い

桜井さんが認めてる事実がある

No one cares about what you like. Whatever you say has no value whatsoever. It's a fact that Sakurai-san accepts them.

89： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 20:25:31.42 0 ID:

バンプもミスチルも好きだけど別物

なぜこのスレで名前が出てきたのかわからん

I like both Bump and MisChil but they're different. I don't understand why their name was brought up on this thread.

93： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 20:27:32.52 0 ID:

ミスチルに対抗できるのがバンプしかいないってこと

It just means that Bump is the only band that can stand a chance against MisChil

96： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 20:29:07.55 0 ID:

対抗というか次世代ミスチルポジションってだけだよ

年代は１０歳ほど違うから

They're not really going against, but they would be taking over Mr. Children's position in the next generation. The age difference is about 10 years apart anyway.

100： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 20:29:59.03 0 ID:

レミオロメンはバンプぐらいいきそうだと思ったけど期待はずれだったな

I thought Remioromen would go up to Bump's level, but they didn't meet the expectations.

I can't sing the fast part well in "Na mo naki uta".The part that goes "Nariyuki makase no..."

180： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 21:26:50.62 T ID:

ミスチルってヲタに歌わせて自分はちょっとしか歌わないんだろｗ

But MisChil let their fans sing the songs for them while they only sing a little during concerts, right?

183： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 21:39:38.55 P ID:

>>180

客にふるのは１公演で１曲が基本

定番はInnocent Worldでたまに口笛とか

They basically let the fans sing 1 song per concert. It's usually "Innocent World", then sometimes "Kuchibue".

184： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 21:51:05.46 0 ID:

それ全部好きな曲なのに歌ってくれないんだよ

I like all of those songs but they don't sing it for me

185： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 21:55:09.21 P ID:

曲まるごと通して客に振るってこたないと思うけど

AパートのみとかBパートのみとか大サビのみとか

まぁiinocent worldを最初から最後まで桜井のみなんてのは逆にレアになってるな

I don't think they let the fans sing the entire song, it's usually just the first verse or the second one, or the chorus. Well, it is pretty rare though that Sakurai sings "Innocent World" from start to finish.

188： 182-167-9-196f1.hyg1.eonet.ne.jp 2013/05/31(金) 22:11:58.09 0 ID:

三十路前半のがっつりチルミル世代(広末世代とも言う)

だけど、あんまり覚えてないや、が1番好きな曲だわ。

いつ聴いてもほぼ泣きそうになる。

People in their early 30s are said to be the ones who are in the MisChil generation (it can also be called Hirosue generation), but "Anmari oboetenaiya" is my favorite song. It almost always brings me to tears whenever I listen to it.

213： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 23:13:44.68 0 ID:

小林のセンスと桜井の大衆性が上手くマッチしたから

小林がいなかったらただの下手糞青春ポップバンド

I think Kobayashi's sense and Sakurai's charismatic appeal matched well. They'd just be some no-good youth pop band if it weren't for Kobayashi.

I think the song that cemented Mr. Children's status in the industry is "Na mo naki uta"

226： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 23:56:33.65 0 ID:

>>224

クロスロード→イノセンじゃない？

I think it was those consecutive singles from "Crossroad" to "Innocent World"

228： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/05/31(金) 23:59:39.54 0 ID:

そのへんはお披露目って感じでしょ

名もなき歌まで名曲を連発し続けたおかげで今があるんだなぁ

I think that was their show-off period. Because they came up with hits one after another until "Na mo naki uta", they're where they are today.

234： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/06/01(土) 00:13:24.37 0 ID:

今の日本の音楽て終わってるよね

ミスチルバンプあたりがもっと前に出て活動してくれないとつまらないよ日本

ジャニエイベアケビあたりが持て囃されてることを疑問に思わないやつが大杉連

Japan's music industry is in the pits right now. Hey Japan, things just aren't interesting when bands like MisChil and Bump aren't in the limelight. There's just too many people who don't seem to question the music scene being over-saturated with the likes of Johnny's, Avex, and AKB.

237： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/06/01(土) 00:19:07.64 0 ID:

>>234

みんな疑問に思ってるからモー娘の連続１位も冷笑されてるんだろうが

CDの売上げの概念が崩壊した以上オリコンはもう曲の優劣の指標として機能してない

Everyone questions it so that's why people just snicker at the fact that Morning Musume got consecutive number ones. The CD sales now aren't indicative anymore of how good a song is, so the Oricon charts actually are no longer functioning as they should.

241： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/06/01(土) 00:25:43.55 0 ID:

桜井は名曲しか作れない病らしいな

I heard that Sakurai has this disease of only being able to create hit songs