End of Day 1 FlavourThe action hero's gathered round and argued about who was working against the common goal. They argued back and forth until vicarin was picked at the target. He was quickly strung up and then everyone moved onto the epic party planned for that night. Someone went and checked vicarin's pockets and villa but couldn't find any clues as to his plans for the future.

Vicarin was lynched, he was charlize theron. His alignment won't be revealed.

The next day dawned and people shook off their hangovers and gathered round. It quickly became apparent that two people were missing. Checking mark's room they found supicous equipment showing he was clearly up to no good. Mpolo's room was absent any clues again, which just served to raise the suspicouns.

Mark_Cangila was killed, he was Jackie Chan and a Member of Mafia C

Mpolo was killed, his role and alignment will not be revealed

Note it is intended to have boomfrog replaced by ConMan but Conman has not yet confirmed.

Two unrevealed flips. Wagon analysis is pretty useless when two of the top three wagons have no flip. We might have lost two scum N1 but I won't be counting on that.At least we can try to look for Mark's buddy/ies.

Side note: I said I'd have more time D2 but that's excluding tomorrow and saturday

bessie has Mark as most TownBoomFrog mentions Mark basically once but puts him in his bottom 3heury misrepresents Mark and engages him in his limited content Madge votes Mark but that's NAI because CHAOSmoody has insufficient data at first but puts Mark in his bottom 3 with no justificationmpolo has no opinion on Marksomitomi has no opinion on Mark

Mark attacks mpolo, Madge, Vicarin, also somewhat BoomFrog but he specifically says that he's not scum

Hi all! This feels weird. I feel like I'm a replacement... Unfortunately, I'm still pretty jetlagged from my trip to the States and as such, I haven't had much of a chance to gather my thoughts properly.

Having skimmed the flips etc, here are my thoughts:1) I doubt there are three mafia teams. It's possible, but I think it likelier there's 2.2) I think mpolo and Vicarin were town, and town's alignment is not revealed on death. I have evidence relating partly to this in my role, that I'd prefer not to reveal at this time.3) Mark was probably scum, although it's possible that he was a death miller. He was one of my scummier reads from D1.4) If Mark was mafia, he did not necessarily have any team-mates.5) Dead people might come back to life (note wam's comments regarding death), so mpolo and/or Mark and/or Vicarin may return.

Here is a rather unthought-out ordered list, based on gut reads of D1's content:TownplythosomitomiSabrarmoody7277heuristically_alonebessieMadgeBoomFrog/ConManScum

I had a bad feeling about BoomFrog towards the end of the day. I'd have to review his content that was mentioned. And I could easily see scum-BoomFrog claiming scum D1 as a gambit. I agree with others that Madge provided even less useful content than normal D1-Madge. I'm pretty confident Vicarin was town, and as such, bessie's push on him is somewhat suspect.

That's all for tonight. I'm exhausted, and should have gone to bed about an hour ago.

jimbobmacdoodle wrote:2) I think mpolo and Vicarin were town, and town's alignment is not revealed on death. I have evidence relating partly to this in my role, that I'd prefer not to reveal at this time.

jimbobmacdoodle wrote:2) I think mpolo and Vicarin were town, and town's alignment is not revealed on death. I have evidence relating partly to this in my role, that I'd prefer not to reveal at this time.

Sabrar wrote:moody has insufficient data at first but puts Mark in his bottom 3 with no justification

Well, I should have made that more explicit, but it was because of the L-1 thing. Then again, you have lampshaded my voting pet peeves before .

So, more than one kill, limited flips (I've been through that before, it ain't nice), and people maybe coming back from death; CHAOS indeed. Mafia A (or B) could still be a SK with a big ego just to confuse terminology as has been pointed out.

Nothing to report from me.

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Tigerlion wrote:Well, I imagine as the game progresses, various people will be getting moody.

BoomFrog wrote:I still have no idea what town moody really looks like.

I read through the two pages of content that were posted after my final post on D1 but I did not write up any responses. I will try to reread more thoroughly tomorrow, and if anyone wants me to respond to anything in particular just point it out.

Meta game read: I know moody hates when I game the game, but I think Vicarin has been too active in Gojoe to be on standby.

jimbobmacdoodle wrote:I'm pretty confident Vicarin was town, and as such, bessie's push on him is somewhat suspect.

Interesting. Do you have a town read of Vicarin from his content or is this purely related to your role pm? If Vicarin was town, why does Vicarin being town make my push on him somewhat suspect? For that matter, why would Vicarin’s alignment make my push on him somewhat suspect at all?

Madge wrote:Mafia C?!?!?!@ It better only be one team but the C is for Chaos. It's going to be like that old prank: "release three pigs, number them 1, 2, and 4, and they'll spend hours trying to find number 3"

Ok. So, how about the two night kills?

Madge wrote:@Sabrar: why specifically do you specify there's no Mafia A? Is that a slip? We haven't seen Mafia B, have we?

You’re voting for him because of this? Pre post edit, OK, I guess the selection of A was deliberate and I thought it was just illustrative.

Madge wrote:Mafia C?!?!?!@ It better only be one team but the C is for Chaos. It's going to be like that old prank: "release three pigs, number them 1, 2, and 4, and they'll spend hours trying to find number 3"

Ok. So, how about the two night kills?

"it better be only one team" was wishful thinking. my current hypothesis is we have two teams, Mafia C and Mafia 2, but a standard A/B/C I have no reason to disbelieve.

bessie wrote:You’re voting for him because of this?

You don't get to tell me how to vote. I think you and Sabrar might have the same alignment, though. Don't ask me why - just the vibe of the thing. (I am so glad you ended up watching The Castle so you can understand that the shitty lawyer is basically me at Mafia and you are like the QC who is inspired by the shitty lawyer's earnestness and comes and bails him out)

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Meta game read: I know moody hates when I game the game, but I think Vicarin has been too active in Gojoe to be on standby.

My role PM also implies that Vicarin is more likely permanently dead. It's not guaranteed though.

bessie wrote:

jimbobmacdoodle wrote:I'm pretty confident Vicarin was town, and as such, bessie's push on him is somewhat suspect.

Interesting. Do you have a town read of Vicarin from his content or is this purely related to your role pm? If Vicarin was town, why does Vicarin being town make my push on him somewhat suspect? For that matter, why would Vicarin’s alignment make my push on him somewhat suspect at all?

I didn't feel strongly either way about Vicarin when loosely following the thread D1. My belief is largely driven by my PM info. Him being town does give greater weight towards people pushing him being scum, because scum are generally more likely to push town off a cliff than other town, although it obviously doesn't guarantee it. Related aside: I need to look back at the others pushing Vicarin. However, your push was what stood out in my mind the most. This is a weak point, I acknowledge, hence your position as third likeliest currently.

Madge's voting pattern feels weird. I suspect she might not entirely have control of her vote. Did Madge have a vote down for the entirety of D1? If she's not forced into voting this way, I don't understand her vote on Sabrar, and in particular why she still has it down now that he's explained the "slip" she's voting him for.

@Madge: why are you voting Sabrar? In particular, if you think bessie and Sabrar are buddies, why are you voting him and not bessie?

plytho wrote:Conman's claim is pretty interesting as well. The plausibility of the BoomFrog kill over the mpolo kill makes me sort of believe him.

I agree with this. However, I don't think it necessarily means much about either player's actual alignment. It could also easily be a scum bus driver deliberately trying to mess with town night actions, and just accidentally redirected the other team's kill. Or a regular redirector (town or scum) targeted the killer and redirected to mpolo etc.

I don't think bessie was ever scum with a newbie on her team. She is openly coaching Mark which is what town!bessie would do. And that's the exact same thing scum!bessie would probably do as well. However I think that the very brief reasoning she gave for town-reading Mark here is more indicative of them not being partners, scum!bessie would probably give more details. Not 100% sure though.