Egyptians, E-thi-o’-pi-ans, Nubians and Hebrews are the Same Ethnic People: NILE VALLEY: North Africa / Sahara / Horn of Africa and West Asia..

The Nuzi Map – made of clay may have been made 120 years before The Flood of Noah or possibly closer to Creation.

“The Nuzi Map portrays the main city within Eden/Aad as being South of the cited mid-point. That is, on the Nuzi Map the city of Aid appears to be perhaps as far south as the Dahlak Archipelago to the Northeast of Asmara, Eritrea (Ethiopia) or nearer the Sudan/Eritrean border or even further to the North perhaps nearer the Suakin Archipelago and Port Sudan. It is very probable that ruins of Eden will be found throughout this entire area.”The Nuzi map proves the existence of the 4 rivers chronicled in the “Holy Bible”.

Those 4 rivers traverse around the entire country of Ethiopia/HaBashan. Eden is located in Ethiopia.

The term for Eden was Aden/Adin/Aad – which also means:To give pleasures, has the same prime root word as Eden or Adan, to be soft pleasant or voluptuous land. Basically, this was the best place in the whole world to live flourish and be fruitful.

Egypt-Ethiopia/Kush-Nubia-Sudan was some of the places where man walked with GOD in the cool of the day ‘Where the Son of God’ met with man-kind. It would be the same place where, people would return after the Deluge – they would return to their nativity – Afrika.

NOTE: When the word Ethiopia is used it referred to ALL of AFRICA and not just the current location. Africa, Ethiopia, Egypt, Nubia are different words for the same people!

We now see that the Fertile Crescent was connected to the other Fertile Crescent in the Nile Valley and along the Nile River that traversed through the center of Africa and beginning in what is now call Uganda.

Where they from the same source?

Do you really believe that people never traveled UP and DOWN thewhole Nile in all the thousands of years man has lived on this Earth-planet?

And since they did, some people stayed where they traveled and mini-civilizations flourished.

The locale where the Biblical Adam and Eve, otherwise known as the

The Adamite Unit: (the Wombman and the Hue-Man) was probably born is now

Sudan/Ethiopia/Kenya at the Breast of the East African continent.

The Egyptians has identified this region as the (Mouth of the Nile) were the “Original” people resided.

The Tekeze River on the Nuzi map is not shown on many modern maps, flows into the Atbara River,which is one of the three main tributaries of the Nile River. And, it appears that the Tekeze River is the river that is clearly shown on the ancient Nuzi Map and is very close to Aad/Eden.

The TekezeRiver begins in modern Ethiopia on the Ethiopian/Eritrean border, traverses West-northwest through Ethiopia and Eritrea, and then flows into the Atbara as it enters the Sudan.

The Atbara then flows northwest through Sudan until it meets the Nile at the town of Atbarah, Sudan.

This city of Atbarah is located on the Southeast corner of the big bend of the Nile (i.e. South of the 5th cataract or waterfall).

RememberIndigenous peoples “never” used the phrase CATARACT that was a European invention to divide the Family of Africa.

Thus, the Nuzi Map reveals that the Edenic City of Aad is in very close proximity to the Tekeze River,

Which begins due South of the Dahlak Archipelago(Ethiopia). Therefore,Eden is in Africa near the “East or Horn of Africa”.

NOTE: E-thi-opia is mention in the Bible~GenesisChpt.2Vs.10-14 describes the 4 Locations.

BIBLICAL HYDROLOGY OF EDEN:

Vs.10 And a River went out of Eden to the Water Garden; and from thence it was parted into four heads/parts.

{ጥhe First River Out of the Water Garden of Eden is Pi’son from Ha-vi-Lah}

{ጥhe Second River Out of the Water Garden of Eden is Gi’hon from Eጥhiopia}

Vs.11.Pi’son Land of Havilah, Vs.13. Gi’hon of Eጥhiopia,

Vs.14Hid’de-kel: that is it which goes toward the east of Assyria, and the 4th river is Eu-phra’tes,

(Note: Vs.14 describes the Mesopotamia location of the Tigris River and the Euphrates going out of Eden, Northerly

Then Easterly towards Assyria- Iraq/Mesopotamia)..

This Northerly route has the same route as the 3 rivers in todays East Africa, which are

The White Nile-Uganda/Sudan, The Blue Nile-Ethiopia and The Tekeze River-Eritrea.

(Keep in mind according to Genesis Chpt.10 Vs.7, Cush’s (Ethiopia/Nubia) other sons were):

Seba,“Havilah”, Sabtah, Raamah, and Sabtecah

ጥhe Book of Amos: Chpt.9 Vs.7–

Are ye not, as Children of the E-thi-o’pians untome, O‘ Children of Is-ra-el?

Saith the Lord”

Have not I brought up Israel, Out of the Land of Egypt ?

And from the Philistines of Caph’tor and the Syrians from Kir ?

(Philistines of Caph’tor is modern day Turkey via Syria)

I KINGS chpt.10 Vs.1 and 2

Vs.1 { And when the Queen of She’ba heard of the Fame of SolomonConcerning the Name of the Lord,
She came to prove him with Hard Questions}

Vs.2 { And she came to Jeru’salem with a very Great Train, with Camels that bare Spices and Very Much Gold,
and Precious stones: and when she was to come to Solomon, She Communed with Him of all that was in herHeart}

4.GEOGRAPHY:

The location of Ethiopia. is without a doubt in Eastern Africa also known as the Horn of Africa.

(And by the way the East of Eጥhiopia would be Eritrea or Somalia or even Yemen/Southern Arabia

ex.Yemen/Oman) between the Red Sea Near Eden‘s Gulf of Aden/Eden

NOTE:

The term for Eden: Was Aden/Adin/Aad –

which also means: Togive pleasures,

Has the same prime root word as Eden or

Adan, to be soft pleasant or voluptuous land.

Basically, this was the best place in the whole world to live flourish and be fruitful.

The Axum Kingdom used the name “Ethiopia” as early as the 4th century.

It is also the alleged resting place of the Ark of the Covenant and the purported home of

The Queen of Sheba, the Aksum Kingdom was also the FirstMajor Empire to convert to Christianity.

5.BOTANY:

In the Bible Genesis Chpt.2

(vs.12 And the the Gold of that Land is Good: there is Bdellium and the Onyx Stone).

Bdellium Trees are used to extract a reddish-brown resinous material, an dried sap of a number of trees,

But primarily from Commiphoramyrrha, otherwise known as Bdellium is

Native to Yemen, Somalia, the eastern parts of Ethiopia’s Horn of Africa.

Azul አዙል Shalom ስሃሎም Hotep ሆተፕ
Thanks again for your comments and thoughts.
I must reiterate that some of your questions may have been answered previously..

Question 1. What do you think would have been the Y haplotype of the original inhabitants of this geographic area?
My Answer. The Original Inhabitants of this area would be family of the E-Ychromsome Family Group.

Their existence is better explained by their being present in populations of the “Early Holocene Sahara”, who went on to people the Nile Valley in
The mid-,Holocene era (12,000 B.P.) according to Hassan (1988); This occurred way long before the ‘‘Bantu migrations,’’ These particular groups in age and geographical origins also coincides with Egyptian/Nubian Halfan Culture 24,000 B.C.

The Halfan people, of Egypt and Nubia flourished between 18,000 and 15,000 BC in Nubia and Egypt. One Halfan site dates to before 24,000 BC.
This would also give the plausible assignment of the Nubian-M2 and the Ethiopian PN2 (35,000 B.P.) as the “Progenitors” of “Nubian-Egyptian/Halfan Culture”..
They lived on a diet of large herd animals and the Khormusan tradition of fishing. Although there are only a few Halfan sites and they are small in size, there is a greater concentration of artifacts, indicating that this was not a people bound to seasonal wandering, but one that had settled, at least for a time.

The Halfan is seen as the parent culture of the Ibero-Maurusian industry which spread across the Sahara and into Spain. Sometimes seen as a proto-Afro-Asiatic culture, this group is derived from “The Nile River Valley culture known as Halfan”, dating to about 17,000 BC.
The Halfan culture was derived in turn from the Khormusan,which depended on specialized hunting, fishing, and collecting techniques for survival’ the material remains of this culture are primarily Stone Tools, Flakes, and a Multitude of Rock paintings.

The end of the Khormusan came around 16000 B.C. and was concurrent with the development of other cultures in the region, including the Gemaian.

Question 2. What about modern day Yemen being the kingdom of queen Sheba? My Answer. I believe modern day Yemen (Sabta/Sheba) to be geographically one of the many Empires of Makeda and the Kushites, which included Meroë/Seba etc… For more please see my previous comments to Marcos from Dec. 6, 2010, Dec 9, 2010 and the comment above from April 9, 2011..

And They Sat down to Eat Bread: And they lifted up their Eyes and looked, and

Behold , a Company of Ish’me–el–ites came from Gilead with their Camels bearing

Spicery and Balm and Myrrh, going to carry it DOWN to EGYPT

GENESIS Chpt. 50 Vs. 7-8 and Vs.26

(Vs.7-8)

And Joseph went up to Bury his Father:

And with him went up all the Servants of Pharaoh, The Elders of

His House, And All the

Elders of the Land of EGYPT

And All the House of Joseph and

His Brethren, and His Father’s House:

Only theirlittle Ones, and their Flocks and thier Herds,

They Left in the Land of Goshen./Egypt

(Vs.26)

So Joseph Died, being a Hundred and Ten years Old:

And they Embalmed him, And he was put in a Coffin in Egypt.

2. ጥhe Book of Khamows/Amos: Chpt.9 Vs.7

Are ye not, as Children of the E-thi-o’pians unto me,

O‘ Children of Is-ra-el?

Saith the Lord”

Have not I brought up Israel, Out of the Land of Egypt ?

And from the Philistines of Caph’tor and the Syrians from Kir ?

(Philistines of Caph’tor is modern day Turkey via Syria)

3. I KINGS chpt.10 Vs.1 and 2

Vs.1 { And when the Queen of She’ba heard of the Fame of

Solomon Concerning the Name of the Lord,
She came to prove him with Hard Questions}

Vs.2 { And she came to Jeru’salem with a very Great Train, with

Camels that bare Spices and Very Much Gold,

and Precious stones: and when she was to come to Solomon,

She Communed with Him of all that was in her Heart}

4. I CHRONICLES

(First Book of the Chronology of Adam and the Hebrew Nation)

Chpt.1 Vs.1–4 and 8

{vs1. ADAM, Sheth, E’nosh, vs.2. Ke’nan, Ma-ha’la-le-el, Je’red}

{ vs.3. He’noch, Me-thu’se-lah and La’mech}Lamech’s son and grandsons

{ vs.4 Noah, Shem, Ham and Ja’pheth.}

{vs.8 The Sons of Ham: Cush, and Miz’ra-im, Put and Canaan}

5. NUMBERS ch.12 Vs.1

AndMiriam and Aaron Spake against Moses because

Of the E-thi-O’pi-an Woman whom he had Married:

For he had Married an E-thi-O’pi-an Woman.

6. HOSEA chpt.13 Vs. 4

Yet I am the Lord thy God from the Land of EGYPT, and thou shalt

Knowno god but me: for there is no Saviour beside me.

7. Acts Chapter. 8 verse 26-27:

“Then the Angel of the Lord said to Philip, Start out and go South to the road that leads down from Jerusalem to Gaza, which is Desert.

“And he arose and went: And behold,
A Man of E-thi-o’pi-a, and Eunuch of Great Authority under Can-da-ce

Queen of E-thi-o’pi-ans, Who had the charge of all her Treasure, and had come to Jerusalem to Worship“.
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The State of Sheba mentioned in the Old Testament is believed to have been in Ethiopia , but is sometimes placed in Yemen.

The Axumite Kingdom is recorded once again as controlling part – if not all – of Yemen in the 6th century.

According to the Ethiopian legend, best represented in the Kebra Negest, the Queen of Sheba was tricked by
King Solomon into sleeping with him, Resulting in a child, named Ebn Melek (later Emperor Menelik I).

**The Tradition that the Biblical Queen of Sheba was a ruler of Ethiopia who visited

King Solomon in Jerusalem in Ancient Israel is Supported by the 1st century A.D. Jewish

All these names are inscribed on my skin and I have no birth cert.
I understand that this tribe originated in southern Ethiopia and they later migrated to Ghana.
I am hoping that someone has information…I was born in/59.
I was taken to various countries and slavery was involved…

I would like to ask what country were you born in? and what countries do you parents come from?
And lastly what country do you currently reside as of now..

I have done some research on the Andinkra tribe symbols and the custom of scarification..

Adinkra Symbols is one of the highly valued hand-printed and hand-embroidered cloths.
Its origin is traced to the Asante people of Ghana and the Gyaman people of Cote’ d’lvoire (Ivory Coast).

However, the production and use of Adinkra have come to be more associated with the Asante people than any other group of people.

The traditional mourning cloth worn by the people residing in Ghana and Cote’ d’Ivoire,
The area of Asante in particular, is referred to as “Adinkra”.

These people, known as the Ashanti, are members of a large cultural group who identify strongly with a culture and collection of traditions known as the Akan.

As for the geneaology there are plenty of systems that will allow you to do surname checks, I will list them below with other references and information that i have attained…

Also if you are interested in taking a mtDna or have a male family member take a Y-chromosome test, this will reveal your early ethnic origins, as well as connecting you to other groups whom you may share genetic ancestry with.

References and Citations: Geneaology and Surname sites and History of Andinkra

Thanks for sharing information on this subject matter.
A good friend of mine, is Igbo as well.. she has also taken anmtdna and Y-chromosome test, to further substantiate Ethiopian, Hebrew and Egyptian relation…

I was debating with this Asian guy because he said that the oldest human fossils were found in 1985 in Longgupo, Zhenlongping Village, Miaoyu Town of Wushan County.

They called it Wushan Man (2.04 million years old)”

This makes its status as a Homo fossil critically important to the study of humans origins as it suggests that H. erectus was not the first human species to leave Africa and supports the argument made by some that H. erectusevolved in Asia and not Africa.“.

I find it hard to believe when geneticists have found no evidence of this. The Khoisan People have shown, according to genetic studies to have the oldest DNA markers on this planet.

Their DNA has to be atleast 50,000 years old.

These people are a direct link genetically to the Y Chromosomal Adam. Aint no way in hell ima let some nincompoop tell me some BS like that.

He tried to call me an Afro-Centrist but, these are White geneticistsproving what Black folk already knew.

But yet this Asian guy swear to me that oldest bones came from Asia.

You know what, I dont have a problem with that theory since all land was called Asia before the Earth broke into the continents we have today. All im saying is, the proof isnt there.

To answer you question correctly,
you wanted me to comment on the Wushan Man being the oldest human fossil found in Asia?

My answer to that, is the Wushan found in Asia is indeed old, but not the oldest as far as antiquity..

The oldest known fossil comes out of Africa-Ethiopia and is called Ardipithecus which date back from early as 3.2– 4.4 million years ago..

The Wushan Originally considered a subspecies of Homo erectus in 1985, it is now thought by one of the scientists, Russell Ciochon, that first described it to be based upon fossilized fragments of an extinct non-hominin ape.

Back in 1995, ten years after the initial discovery Milford Wolpoff of the University of Michigan, who saw the specimens on a trip to China several years ago, isn’t even convinced that the partial jaw is a hominid. “I believe it is a piece of an orangutan or other Pongo,” he says.

He bases that conclusion on a wear facet on the preserved premolar, which to him suggests that the missing neighboring tooth is shaped more like an orang’s than a human’s.

Then much later in June of 2009 Russell Ciochon declared he was now convinced that the Longgupo fossil and others like it do not represent a pre-erectus human, but rather one or more mystery apes indigenous to southeast Asia’s Pleistocene primal forest.

In contrast, H. erectus arrived in Asia about 1.6 million years ago, but steered clear of the forest in pursuit of grassland game.

There was No Pre-Erectus Species in Southeast Asia after all.
*****************************************************************************************************************Ardipithecus:

In a Special issue of Science, an international team of scientists has for the first time thoroughly described Ardipithecus ramidus, a hominid species that
lived 4.4 million years ago in what is now E-thi-o’pi-a.

The name Ardipithecus ramidus stems mostly from the Afar language, in which Ardi means “ground/floor” and ramid means “root“.
The pithecus portion of the name is from the Greek word for “ape“.

These fossils were dated to between 4.32 and 4.51 million years old.

Altogether, forty-seven different authors from around the world contributed to the total study of Ardipithecus and its Environment.

The primary authors are Tim White of the University of California, Berkeley, Berhane Asfaw of Rift Valley Research Service in Addis Ababa, Giday WoldeGabriel of Los Alamos National Laboratory, Gen Suwa of the University of Tokyo, and C. Owen Lovejoy of Kent State University.

“These are the results of a mission to our Deep African Past,” said WoldeGabriel, who is also Project co-Director and geologist.
******************************************************************************************************************Homosapiens and mtdna migrations:

Homosapiens are Anatomically modern humans, and according to Mitochondrial DNA and fossil evidence indicates that modern humans originated in Africa about 200,000 years ago.

Early human migrations began when Homo erectus first migrated out of Africa over the Levantine corridor and Horn of Africa to Eurasia almost 2 million ybp, more or less about 1.8 million years ago, a migration probably sparked by the development of language.

Modern humans, Homo sapiens, evolved in Africa up to 200,000 years ago and reached the Near East around 70 millennia ago.(70K B.P.)

From the Near East, these populations spread east to South Asia by 50 millennia ago, and on to Australia by 40 millennia ago, when for the first time H. sapiens reached territory never reached by H. erectus.

The Khoisan people belong to Macro-Haplogroup L Family for thier mtDna goes back at least from
151,600–233,600 Years Before Present..

Khoisan-speaking populations can generally be divided into two distinct groups, the San and the Khoi.
San populations consist of 10 different Kung groups

The Khoisan people also belong to the Y-Chromosome markers of Haplogroup A..
Haplogroup A represents one of two deep branches in the Y-chromosomal family tree, the other currently known as Haplogroup BT; Therefore, the lineage began evolving shortly after the time of Y-chromosomal Adam.

******************************************************************************************************************References and Citations:

>>>>> there was no pre-erectus species in Asia after all>>>>>>>
but are you familiar with this study :

“Until recently, anthropologists thought that such early hominids did not disperse from Africa to Asia until 1 million years ago. New fossil finds and dates from Asia, including the authors’, now suggest that early Homo arrived in East and South Asia by 2 million years ago.”

I understand You blog celebrating the long roots of Seemic -origins. Surely many of us has its marks in our DNA, since the Mid-East was the intensively populated / succesfully food-producing / combining trafic area. So it’s only natural Your blog taking sides. Still even me, a Siberian mammoth-hunters’ sons’ daugther can glanze and even sometimes read it.

Ps. Keep it simple and don’t kill us with the too long answers – or does that indicate it’s a never-ending story ;) ?

If you were to carefully read my comments, I quoted this paragraph from the scientific study by Russell L. Ciochon, which i will paste below. He said there were no Pre-Erectus species in Asia?

He was simply was stating that the oldest and most archaic species originated in Africa and then spread to Asia.

The person who commented on my blog wanted me to speak on the Wushan Man being the oldest human fossil found in Asia?

My answer to that, is the Wushan found in Asia is indeed old, but not the oldest as far as antiquity..

The oldest known fossil comes out of Africa-Ethiopia and is called Ardipithecus which date back from early as 3.2- 4.4 million years ago..

The Wushan Originally considered a subspecies of Homo erectus in 1985, it is now thought by one of the scientists, Russell Ciochon, that first described it to be based upon fossilized fragments of an extinct non-hominin ape.

Back in 1995, ten years after the initial discovery Milford Wolpoff of the University of Michigan, who saw the specimens on a trip to China several years ago, isn’t even convinced that the partial jaw is a hominid. “I believe it is a piece of an orangutan or other Pongo,” he says.

He bases that conclusion on a wear facet on the preserved premolar, which to him suggests that the missing neighboring tooth is shaped more like an orang’s than a human’s.

Then much later in June of 2009 Russell Ciochon declared he was now convinced that the Longgupo fossil and others like it do not represent a pre-erectus human, but rather one or more mystery apes indigenous to southeast Asia’s Pleistocene primal forest.

In contrast, H. erectus arrived in Asia about 1.6 million years ago, but steered clear of the forest in pursuit of grassland game. There was No Pre-Erectus Species in Southeast Asia after all.

The above quote was emphatically stating that the Origin of Pre-Erectus was not found in Southeast Asia, but found exclusively in Africa.. (reference for quote under the mystery ape of Pleistocene Asia).

Thank you for your dedicated research on this topic. In understanding where we all truly came from we can eliminate the racial tensions that divide us.

I have a couple broad questions here and maybe you can direct me to the answer or answer it for me.

(FYI I am a mixture of arab and italian races.) Hopefully without too much rehashing of what you have already said

you can briefly address the following:

1) Do you believe ancient man started from ethiopia and gradually migrated north to eventually become what is now know as the caucasian man (40,000yrs ago).

2) Do you believe people of arab decent are the first true semites which derived their culture from the kushite peoples of Africa(70,000 yrs ago)?
Up until now there are many religious viewpoints on this topic with moses having three sons, but i dont see the connection between this and any accurate historical viewpoints that I have came across.

3) Are the first semites more directly decendents of the sumerian peoples or the ethiopian/nubian peoples???

Thank you so much and please forgive me if you have already cleared up these questions…

Now to will try to answer your 3 questions with based on research and findings, some of this information on the semitic origin including linguistics and culture has been previously discussed..

1). Do i believe the ancient man started from Ethiopia migrated north to eventually become what is now know as the caucasian man (40,000yrs ago).

My Answer:
Yes …. Ancient man would have came from Africa, it could be Ethiopia as well as Kenya, Uganda or around the great lake regions of the Nilotic family..

The first Asiatic migrations from man would have come from either Y-Chromosome types: Haplgroup E and J.

Haplogroups E and J respectively belong to Ethiopians as Well as Arabs and Italian Males..

Haplogroup E has and African-Asiatic Origin and Origin Date of 50,000-55,000 years before present.
This would be the first male group to enter South West Asia, now know as Arabia or Middle East.

E1b1b is found at high frequencies in East Africa and North Africa and is the only subclade that is found in Europe and Asia at significant frequencies. E1b1b is common among Afro-Asiatic speakers in Africa as well as among Nilo-Saharan and Niger-Congo speakers in East Africa and Sudan.

E1b1b is at once the most common E subclade amongst East African Maasai, Somalis, Ethiopians, Eritreans and North African Sudanese, Egyptians, Berbers and Arabs. It is also common in the Near East, from where it spread into the Balkans and the rest of Europe!

Most European who belong to Haplogroup E which has an African origin belong to the subclade E-V12
Haplogroup E1b1b1a which translate to E-V12 which again According to Dr.Cruciani et al. (2007),
E-V12 likely originated in North Africa.

Haplogroup J has more of an Near East Arabian Peninsula Origin with an Origin Date of 45,000-50,000 YBP.
It evolved in the Arabian Peninsula and was then carried into North Africa, Europe, Central Asia, and South Asia.
It also has a moderate presence in Southern Europe (especially in central and southern Italy, Malta, Greece, and Albania..

2). you asked: Do i believe people of arab decent are the first true semites which derived their culture from the kushite peoples of Africa (70,000 yrs ago)?

My Answer:
No… The Kushites are an Ethiopian Colony, Ethiopia in the semitic language and bibilical times was known as Cush.
The Kushites otherwise known as the Nubians also belong to Haplogroups E and J, with Haplogroup E having antiquity over Haplogroup J as far as places of origin and origin dates as well as migrations to Asia.

Evidence based on Male-DNA in the Y-chromosome indicates that the Exodus began between 60,000 and 50,000 years ago. In his view, the early travelers followed the southern coastline of Asia, crossed about 250 kilometers 155 miles of sea, and colonized Australia by around 50,000 years ago.

3). Are the first semites more directly decendents of the sumerian peoples or the ethiopian/nubian peoples???

My Answer:
The first semites would have came from the Ethiopians, the Nubians, the Egyptians then later the people of Sumer which is the Levant and modern day Iraq. People of African descent also are indigenous to parts of the Levant and Arabia as well from early migrations 50,000 years ago.

By analyzing the Y chromosome DNA from males in all regions of the world, geneticist Spencer Wells has concluded that all humans alive today are patrilineally descended from a single man who lived in Africa around 60,000 years ago..

Thank you so much again for sharing your Knowledge, So let me just see if I get what you are saying.

The first semites DID derive there culture from early ethiopian and nubian culture

BUT THEIR Exodus was into Southern Asia and Australia, where as the Exodus from Egypt of the Hyksos peoples?

(which i assume are EITHER the ancestors of modern arabs OR related to the people of Sumer in some way) into the land of canaan was not related to the story portrayed in the orignal hebrew texts (later to be translated and adapted to european biases as the BIBLE).

Sorry if I am still not understanding a couple of the finer points…if you could correct me once more if I have misunderstood….

The Semitic language and Culture would have derived from early Ethiopian, Nubians and Egyptians..

The Biblical Exodus, would have been between 15th and 13th century B.C. around 3000 years ago.
When i mentioned the exodus, I was emphatically talking about the Scientific Evidence based on Male-DNA in the Y–Chromosome,

Which indicates that the Exodus of modern man began between 60,000 and 50,000 years ago, 47,000 years before the Biblical Exodus.

The Creation Story in the Bible is not as archaic as the people who still inhabit these parts of Africa and Asia..

CHRONOLOGY of African-Asiatic Gods/Religions:

NAME OF GOD/ RELIGION-/ GREGORIAN YEAR

1. Ptah/Ra’/Osiris Mysteries- 4100 BCE

2. Yahweh/Jehova Judaism- 3760 BCE

3. Jesus*(the Christ) Christianity- 1st Century C.E.

Please understand the antiquity of African-Asiatic people who even pre-date Egyptian Culture 4100 BCE..

People of The Nile Valley People are also tied into Halfan Culture which is the PARENT CULTURE of all Civilizations…

The Halfan people, of Egypt and Nubia flourished between 18,000 and 15,000 BC in Nubia and Egypt.

One Halfan site dates to before 24,000 BC.

Hopes this makes it clear about the origin of Semitic People, Language and Culture which has an African-Asiatic origin..

My answer is Axum could be just one of the Kingdoms under the Rule of Queen of Sheba.

According to Ethiopic History, Queen of Sheba was known and Makeda or Candace in the Legendary Kebra Negast… Also the The Ethiopian Orthodox Church claims that the Church of Our Lady Mary of Zion in Axum houses, The Biblical Ark of the Covenant in which lie the Tablets of Law upon which the Ten Commandments are inscribed..

2. Was the Garden of Eden near Gihon of Ethiopia or around Lake Tana?

I believe the Garden of Eden and the Four rivers are as follows:

BIBLICAL HYDROLOGY OF EDEN:

Try looking at a Gideons Holy Bible: Genesis Chapter.2 vs 10-13

( vs.10 And a river went out of “Eden” to the water garden and from thence it was parted. and became into four heads/parts.)

(vs. 11 the name of the first is Pi’son: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Hav’i-lah, where there is Gold.

“Havilah” (literally meaning “stretch of sand”) is the name of various lands and/or people mentioned in the Bible.

I believe that Havilah could be part of the modern day

{eastern “stretch of sand” sahel regions}…

Sudan-Nubia/ and Sahel (Eritrea) and (aksum/axumite regions)…

{In Ancient hieroglyphics the word “Nubia” means Land of Gold}

“Hav’i-lah where there is Gold” in Ancient Kush’s Land of Ham…

(Vs.12 And the the Gold of that Land is Good: there is Bdellium and the Onyx Stone)..

{Bdellium is an “Aromatic” gum like Myrrh that is exuded from Trees}

(used for incense, as well as to embalm the dead in Ancient Egyptian times..),

{These “Particular Trees” are also “Native” to the Horn of Africa} (commiphora myrrha)

{Onyx was used/traded in Egypt as early as the 2nd Dynasty From

Nubia/Ethiopia to make bowls and other pottery items.}

(Vs.13 And the name of the second river is Gi’hon: the same is it that compasseth the Whole Land of

E-thi-o’pi-a.)

(Vs.14 Hid’de-kel: that is it which goes toward the east of Assyria, and the 4th river is Eu-phra’tes,

Vs.14 describes the Mesopotamia location of the Tigris River and the Euphrates going out of Eden, Northerly

Then Easterly towards Assyria- Iraq/Mesopotamia)..

This Northerly route has the same route as the 3 rivers in todays East Africa, which are

The White Nile-Uganda/Sudan, The Blue Nile-Ethiopia/ Lake Tana and The Tekeze River-Eritrea.

NOTE: The Afro-Asiatic languages, which include SEMITIC languages such as ARABIC and HEBREW, are believed by Scholars to have Originated in ETHIOPIA.

This is because the Region has very diverse language groups in close Geographic proximity, often considered a telltale sign for a linguistic Geographic Origin.

3. You wanted to know about the genetic ethiopic profile of Falasha’s within regards to Israel results ?
First let me say, I am not sure what do mean by Israel Official Results..

Falasha tradition claims to trace their ancestry to Menelik, son ofKing Solomon of Israel and the Queen of Sheba.

I will list some Genetic reports on Ethiopians and the Hebrew Populations.

I am more or less satisfied by your answer. But, let me put my question the other way

1. Some scholars say (i read but don’t have the sitation), Meroe is the most likely seat for the legendary queen sheba, and there is no as such significan’t archiological finding at Axum during the time of King Solomon. As you said i also believe axum has decended the tradition as he claims Meroe to be his ancesster. Comment on this.

2. Ethiopian Jews (migrated to Israel) was tested for any genetic linkage of the true Jewishness and the result was diffrent, except some minor linkage with Yemen Jews. I hope you have heard this.

In conclusion they were taken as Ethopic like other Ethiopians. I also believe they are not diffrent genetically from other Ethiopians, or most other northern Ethiopians are genetically Jewish as you have said. Just comment on this.

I have went over this subject numerous times, with all citations and references from archeology, and genetics.

I understand that there is a lot of information
to read, the reason is so that i dont have to repeat information that has been spoken previously..

1. So now you want to know if the Legendary Queen of Sheba was seated In Meroe.

I have stated previously that the Queen of Sheba, also known asMakeda or Candace/ Kandake who could have had Kingdoms in Ethiopia and Nubian–Egypt.

Also keep in mind that Sheba is the name of the Land, which is known as Saba/Seba.

This is the Map of the Geographic locations of Sheba, according to the Geneisis from the Bible:

(If you notice, seba, sheba, and sabtah are 3 locations of the queens kingdoms)..

Excerpt: However, else- where in Josephus‘ Antiquities, he identifies Saba (Sheba) as a Ethiopian capital.

He writes “Saba, that was the capital city of the Ethiopians
its name was subsequently changed to Meroë by Cambyses.” known location down the Nile from Khartoum/Sudan.

This identification further helps to confirm Josephus’ statement about the Queen who visited Solomon, since we know of Egyptian conquests to and from Ethiopia.

Queen of Egypt and Ethiopia, and of Sheba itself with Meroë in Nubia, comes in Genesis 10:7. Here, Sheba is presented as a grandson of Kush.

Also according to Josephus, the Egyptian writer Apion most strenuously insisted that the Hebrews were of Egyptian Origin. He affirmed that when they were cast out of Egypt They still retained the Native language of that Land..

Further, if Seba, a son of Kush (Gen. 10:7), can be identified with Sheba, then the connection of Sheba with Ethiopia is further strengthened.

Josephus‘ identification of the Queen of Sheba as
“The Woman who ruled Egypt and Ethiopia” is supported by his identification of the Ethiopian capital as Saba, which is the same as the name of the Southern Arabian kingdom conventionally considered the Queen’s domain.

There is also Archeological Evidence of the

Solomon and Sheba in Ethiopia, under the Ethiopian Orthodox Church.

Previously, I have mentioned from the Book of
Stuart Munro-Hay, 2005,
“The Quest for the Ark of the Covenant“, Tauris

(reviewed in Times Literary Supplement 19 August 2005 p 36).

2. You asked about Ethiopian Jews who migrated to Israel was tested for any genetic linkage of the
(true Jewishness) and the result was diffrent, except some minor linkage with Yemen Jews…

Also what do you mean by true jewishness?

Ethiopians and Other Africans from East, Central and North and West are the “Original Hebrews“.

You may be speaking of the Y-chromosome Jewish test called Kohanim Y-markers, Which still would
include the some of the Ethiopian Male population..

However According to Halakha, the Oldest Normative Definition used by Hebrews for self-identification, a person is Matrilineally a Hebrew by Birth.

Only Halakha can define who is or is not a Hebrew when a question of Hebrew identity, lineage, or parentage arises about any person seeking to define themselves or claim that they are Hebrew.

As a result, mere belief in the principles of Judaism does not make one a “Jew”.

Similarly, even non-adherence by a Hebrew to the 613 Mitzvot, or even formal Conversion to another Faith, does not make one lose one’s Hebrew status.

Thus the immediate descendants of all Female Hebrews (even apostates) are still considered to be Hebrews, as are those of all their Female Descendants.

Even those Descendants who are not aware they are Hebrews, or practice a faith other than Judaism, are defined by this perspective as Hebrews, as long as they come from an Unbroken Female line of Descent.

This Matrilineal concept would unequivocally show the mtDna genetic relation of Ethiopian,Nubians and Egyptians to the Hebrew Population.

Another way for to confirm the authenticity of the Original Hebrew, is to follow the “Origin of Eden” According to

Bible Scholars the first 4 books in Genesis:

Pertaining to the Founding of the Hebrew Nation are as follows}:

1.Genesis– Founding of the Hebrew Nation, (Ethiopia, Sudan-Nubia, and Egypt)

2. Exodus– the Covenant with the Hebrew Nation. (13th-14 century B.C. from Africa/Egypt)

3. Leviticus– Laws of the Hebrew Nation. ( The Laws of Moses and Hebrews)

4. Numbers– Journey to the Promise Land.

(NUMBERS ch.12 Vs.1)

And Miriam and Aaron Spake against Moses because

Of the E-thi-O’pi-an Woman whom he had Married:

For he had Married an E-thi-O’pi-an Woman.

AFTERWORD: The Studies I listed previously proves this with Genetics, Archeology, Linguistics as well as Biblical Accounts who are the Original Hebrews..
Ethiopians, Nubians, Egyptians and Hebrews are Genetically the same People. These African-Asiatic people
are the first people to inhabit these biblical geographic regions. (Lands of Ham & Shem)

Hi Bileh, am back,
Who are the Sabaeans mentioned in the Book of Zachariah (as men who came from the desert). I am asking this because i have heard many theories that they are the present day “Sabaot” or “Sebei” tribes living in the Slopes of Mt.Elgon in Western Kenya/Eastern Uganda.
Does the fact that the names seem close and the fact that these are Nilotic migratory tribes give this possibility any plausibility?

1. I believe that Seba, Sheba and Saba are the names of Geographical Locations of Ancient East African Kingdoms. I also affirm that they are related to the Queen of Sheba Kingdoms, Secondly from what i have researched and read, I draw the conclusion that the Sabaeans could have had Kingdoms in the following locations: D’mt, located in northern Ethiopia, Eritrea, and Nubia due to their hegemony over the Red Sea as well as Northern Sabaean Territory known by Ancient Hebrews as Egypt, Mitzraim and Khebt. As well as Southern Arabian regions in Yemen also known as Saba.

Later, in the mid-1st millennium B.C., the Southern Arabian immigrants, or Sabaens, appeared again in Ethiopia. These were Military or Trading Colonists who maintained contact with their Country of Origin for Centuries.

The Semitic-speaking Axumites, or Habash(Abyssinians), had their capital city, Aksum, in the western part of the province of Tigray. During the first 6 centuries A.D., they Controlled territories North to Upper Egypt, East to the Gulf of Aden and Southern Arabia, south to the Omo River, and west to the Cushite Kingdom of Meroe ̈ (Munro-Hay 1991).

Keep in mind according to Old Ancient Hebrew text the names Kheb, Kepsh and Kush were all names for Ancient Ethiopia. Also an excerpt from the Book of the Beginnings by Gerald Massey pg.190 2nd paragraph, reads as follows: The Egypt wherein Israel played the Zonahs, in the persons of two women Aholah and Aholibah, was the Land of Khebt, the Genetix a Celestial Region belonging to the Sabaeans Religion, hence the Paramours, who were Sabaeans from the Wilderness/Desert.

Also the words wilderness and desert are used interchangeably when spoken of this passage.

My Answers to Questions #2 and #3

2. Are present day “Sabaot” or “Sebei” tribes living in the Slopes of Mt.Elgon in Western Kenya/Eastern Uganda.
Sabaeans?

First let me say the Sebei are from Sudan and Uganda and are Nilotic and speak Kupsabini.
The Sebei is now known mainly as Sabini, and the Sabaot also speak a Nilotic Langauge from Kenya/Uganda.

There is also Linguistic evidence of Semitic languages being spoken in Eritrea and Ethiopia since at least 2000 BC.

The Ancient Sabaeans wrote and spoke in an Ancient African Semitic language, also the ancient Sabaean Kingdom established power in the early 1st millennium BC. In the 1st century BC it was conquered by the Himyarites Kingdom.

3. Does the fact that the names seem close and the fact that these are Nilotic migratory tribes give this possibility any plausibility?

The fact that the names are close, does raise an eyebrow but you must also consider that they speak two totally different african languages and have somewhat different cultural practices.

So could they be the Ancient Sabaeans?

My answer is that it is plausible from migratory routes they could be Genetically related, as most Africans are.
But as far as Historical or Linguistical accounts, i have not found any proof to substantiate this claim..

Although the names are similar, the linguistic origin and historical backgrounds are divergent ….

To Meshwesh once more you know nothing of what you speak of as the original inhabitants of arabia were Africans boy, you need to learn about how the euro slaves came to Africa and arabia and then became arabs.

I am a researcher and soulsearcher..Genealogy is the study of families and the tracing of their lineages and history. Genealogists use oral traditions, historical records, genetic analysis, and other public records to obtain information about a family and to demonstrate kinship and pedigrees of its members.

I also believe that discovering ones ancestry/history and relatives, not only profits the soul but also connects families together through research.
One can still connect with the Holy Spirit as well as journey to the Kingdom of God by doing so.

I also agree and find it scientifically true, that it all started in Africa. All Humans, Religions, Languages, most Customs and Creeds etc, fundamentally began in Mother Africa thousands of years ago..

Genetic testing such as mtDna which is inherited from the wombman/Female can be found in all modern humans, no matter thier Race, Religion or Creeds from all parts of the World.

Thus, it all began in Africa, from the our Mitochondrial “EVE” the Mother of All Living around 200,000 years ago.

I do appreciate your comments, but please be advised this is an Anthropology site.

The study of Humanity. This site is based on scientific facts NOT opinions.

I would also like for you to clarify, your statement
(“pls be careful with the mtdna testing…no hand or head marks, beware strong delusion and that other mark”)???

Please be clear about your statements, so that we can discuss and educate our visitors as well..

The Ethiopians (“people with the burnt face”), like the Nubians (Sudanese), Eritreans, Somali, share linguistic and DNA genetic markers with present-day Egyptians. Are Egyptians Africans? Yes.

Yes, Egypt is not the only civilization that racist Whites/Europeans have tried to claim. Case in point, great Zimbabwe was claimed by racists to have been founded by a lost Roman legion!

The fact is, Zimbabwe, featuring the Great Enclosure Wall, was built by the Shona-speaking people. Zimbabwe is one of the unique and marvelous monuments on the African continent–second only to the pyramids of the Nile Valley.

Egypt as white, and not a part of Africa? Not so.

Egypt is as African as Kenya, Nigeria, Ethiopia, Chad, Morocco, Uganda, and all the other 48 African nations.

I am a humble amateur writer, a Christian with little or no anthropological experience to support my opinions.

however, my opinions do not evolve or exist in a vacuum or from out of the void.

from my little study of the King James Authorized Version (The Holy Bible,) i find that Adam’s disobedience affected and is still affecting us all. you call it anthropology, geneology, i also see it to be of great religious record.

i do not mean to offend with my zeal, apologies once again!

however, if we agree that Adam was the starting point, then we agree that there is a source, just as there are Isrealites and Gentiles, there is a history, a journey, a root and a root cause.

coming across this academic site, i am pleased to say that it has added immensely to my research on Africa’s true place in the scheme of things.

if we try to avoid Adam’s error, then we can try to avoid Solomon’s, and Samson’s, and Ahaseuru’s silliness. this is the religious theme behind Deliverance: finding out where an ancestor, four generations back, may have erred.

this is an anthropology site: i wonder if you will be interested in the point where Science stops and God’s Word continues…to INFINITY? so your site interested me, because…

the black race has sufferred so much! growing up i never knew Egypt was even in Africa, or that simon of Cyrene was African, or that Moses might have been Egyptian, like paul or Mark.

dollies were white then, and the devil was depicted as black!

and then i heard we were all from HAM; and under a curse…to be the servant…Good Lord, i thought.

now, through sites like these, because of my curious mind, i descovered that Queeen Charlotte, wife of George the third of Great Britain, had predominantly black blood, and from her lineage sprung Queen Victoria seed too.

geneology is important to me, because now i see that we may quite possibly be the children of God told not to mix with the decendants of Cain, who wanted Thier way of doing things, not His (God’s,) and thus the ancient hebrew could’ve been us…lied to by the differrent colonial masters from the tribe of Dan, that we were ugly, pagan, evil, from ab initio, untill we actually believed…and still believe it!!!

my research is crucial to the way Africans see themselves. our pagan dances may not even be our culture, if we were there right in the time of Lucius of Cyrene, who ministered to the Lord.

I am so very sorry for sounding so opinionated; please accept my apologies. further more; i cant explain my other comments without sounding opinionated, or can i? but he who will hear will hear, it is written.

First let me say without total disregard of your comments, that i partially agree with your statements.

This particular article was constructed to show that Africans ie. (East Africans, West Africans, North, Central and South), as well as the African-Asiatics from South West Asia (the Middle East) are genetically related.

I also stated previously, Thus, it all began in Africa, from the our Mitochondrial “EVE” the Mother of All Living around 200,000 years ago.

This would be 196,000 years before the Old testament Hebrew Bible and 198,000 years before Christianity and 198,389 years before King James version was revised and published in 1611.

The King James version was actually the third of its kind, officially translated into English; The first having been the Great Bible commissioned by the Church of England in the reign of King Henry VIII, The second having been the Bishop’s Bible of 1568.

I also used the King James version and Gideons Holy Bible as well as other Bibliography and techniques to disprove and prove the geographic location of the Garden of Eden in East Africa as well as an African Semitic Origin.

It is not my intention to underscore any religion or any religious practices, I only intend to show that African-Asiatic people are archaic and are the mothers and fathers of all civilizations.