Another problem is that press coverage doesn't exactly make it clear that this is a whole new fictional Universe they're talking about. I've seen plenty of people objecting to the idea of making an "existing" character gay and saying they should have just made a new gay character. They don't know that for all intents and purposes it's NOT an existing character anymore.
It's like when the Joker killed Jason-Todd- Robin, and people reading the press coverage thought hey killed Dick-Grayson-Robin (really more like Burt-Ward-Robin) and flooded DC with angry phone calls.

Really, DC's "we're making an iconic hero gay!" to catch up with Marvel and bringing out Alan Scott after a great deal of hype... it's like Marvel announcing that the human torch is gay, only it's not Johnny Storm, it's Jim Hammond, the android human torch that fought nazis with captain America and Bucky, who is pretty much only known by mega-nerds.

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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:32 am Post subject:

Mr Gary wrote:

So, 'Before Watchmen'. Thoughts? Personally, artistic integrity be damned, I bought the fuck out of the Blu Ray of Watchmen, I can buy the fuck out of these.

I Don't Know!!

First of all, I absolutely disregard anything and everything that Alan Moore says. He has a grudge against everyone. Is is justified? Probably but it bleeeeeeeds into a big hallucination about how the world is terrible and why doesn't Cthulhu just come down and rape all the women and kill everyone?? So yeah, forget what he says (I will check out what he writes though talk about violence on women...).

But the artist Dave Gibbons was all rational. He is okay with the thing (though the only official stance I found from him, that wasn't dancing around the issue to talk about something else, seemed a bit sad. And he was specific that Watchmen was a complete story).

But I haven't picked it up yet. I don't know if I will. I'd be able to ignore it completely but I <3 Rorschach. I probably will. Sigh._________________Before God created Las he pondered on all the aspects a woman might have, he considered which ones would look good super-inflated and which ones to leave alone.
After much deliberation he gave her a giant comfort zone. - Michael

Honestly I don't know what to think about the whole thing. I couldn't give less of a shit about Alan Moore's ramblings if I tried. In fact I find his whole stance on the issue a little petty and more than a little hypocritical. At the same time this is obviously a cash grab on DC's part. I respect a fair bit of the talent they've brought in to not completely shit the whole thing up but that's not really a ringing endorsement. Really the best I can give the whole thing is a disinterested shrug. I doubt I'll read it but I don't really have the fire in my bones to actively hate it either._________________I couldnt think of anything smart to say.

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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:35 pm Post subject:

My supply was cut off and is not going to restart at that store.

SOOO off to Vintage Stock to start a new file and get my back issues. I talked to the manager and the comic book helpers and everyone was cool even though I was a lone girl (this is my measuring stick for if a store is going to get my business - if I am by myself, are they going to be weird about it _before_ I tell them how many titles I pick up).

I will be getting new issues promptly. Yay!

But now I have to work through my backlog of reading. I had been holding off due to missing issues but that won't be a problem much longer. So watching Olympics and reading comics.

Is there anything people are interested in that I can talk about? I am most excited about picking Unwritten, Fables, and Locke and Key back up.

Re Before Watchmen - I have decided to wait for trades to see if they are any good. I will certainly be looking at Rorschach. _________________Before God created Las he pondered on all the aspects a woman might have, he considered which ones would look good super-inflated and which ones to leave alone.
After much deliberation he gave her a giant comfort zone. - Michael

Is there anything people are interested in that I can talk about? I am most excited about picking Unwritten, Fables, and Locke and Key back up.

I've been reading Before Watchmen, but not buying ... some is interesting, some is crap, none seems worth it yet. Silk Spectre has the most interesting story and the best art.

I like the Waid Daredevil but it was better when Marcos Martin was the artist. I am way behind on Fables (was reading library trades, but library where I live now is terrible). Caught up on Locke & Key a month or two ago; am hoping for a giant omnibus hardcover when the last (next) mini ends.

I bought a couple of big fat not-superheroes books recently but haven't had a chance to sit down with them because of other stuff: King City and The Waiting Place (an early work by McKeever)._________________Currently experiencing: not summer.

I don't know if this is the correct forum for this sentiment, but TDKR was a damn fine movie, and in fact better than its predecessor, despite my affinity for Tom Waits parody._________________All our final decisions are made in a state of mind that is not going to last. - Marky Mark Proust

Holy crap that copy paste worked. Neat!_________________Before God created Las he pondered on all the aspects a woman might have, he considered which ones would look good super-inflated and which ones to leave alone.
After much deliberation he gave her a giant comfort zone. - Michael