Jimbop wrote:That really pisses me off how a bunch of raiders complain about it endlessly on the forums, the change happens, then those said raiders post things like "This wasn't changed because of us." It's obvious seeing the posts on the forums how many of them were complaining about it, yet they won't take credit for screwing over people when it does happen.

While I agree with your overall feelings on the matter I really don't think the high asshats had anything to do with this change. I think it a case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand was doing. When they realized this gear would screw up the gear in Underfoot they had to do something about it and fast. Them being SoE Dev team. It probably a hell of a lot easier to change the stats on relatively few items than to have to rework an entire expansion worth of gear. Obviously the guy who is suppose to be coordinating between the different development teams failed.

I think the dev's mistake was not realizing how easy the Naggy/Vox raids would be. Success on these raids was a sure thing. The rewards could have been left intact if the difficulty had been ramped up instead.

The idea that Underfoot group obtained gear is not going to be as good as the Naggy/Vox gear is the bad thing. Top tier group gear should be equal to, or slightly better than, the previous expansion's raid gear. The Devs would need permission from those with "Time Lord" or "Slayer of Dragons" in front of their name before they did this of course.....

They have to nerf the gear already obtained or it wouldn't be fair to anybody else who was working towards it but never got it. Good news is, at least you don't have to fuck with these reptitive missions anymore.

Bilnick wrote:The devs should not nerf any of the gear already obtained.

Yeah, which is the unfortunate thing that they are going to be doing, nerfing any of the gear already obtained. While I do understand why they are doing this, it really is a shame that anyone who took advantage of this loot now has to be shafted for it, especially those that spent massive DKP amounts on this gear just to have it devalued. Those are really the people I feel bad for.

I'm just waiting to find out what that 1hb I bought is going to be nerfed to... I really REALLY hope it's still at least a little better than the one that I trib'd. As for DKP I'd assume there would be some kind of refund based on how much of a nerf the gear gets... lets face it, 120 DKP for a piece of "really good group gear" is a tad insane.

Looks like Naggy and Vox just became completely worthless for our guild to farm. What a poor excuse for a "fix" to just completely zero out the item and make people now have to complete Crystallos in order to buy the "raid" gear. I guess I'm going to have to petition the next time I log in to reclaim the cloak I deleted when I upgraded it with the MM cloak I bought.

hahahaha , there is no freaking possible way that Absor's quote on the fix can be right... Crystallos raids completed? What there on 2 guilds on Maelin that have done that? And are both in Tower, thus making the MM gear useless to them?

Oh man, this is a blunder of a fix........ I hope they don't roll it out.....I'd rather have the gear nerfed 10-20%, rather than have it nuked 100%.

( hehe, maybe thats the sneaky plan all along....come out with a fix that is sooooo outrageous, that people are begging for the 10-20% reduction instead )