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I would like to celebrate MLK day by talking about his close friend, Jackie Robinson.

It has been said that Jackie Robinson had as much to do with the progress of civil rights as MLK himself. For you see, baseball had been a big influence of the culture during that time, and Jackie was the first black to be allowed to play in MLB. Before accepting the role, the owner of the Dodgers, Branch Rickie, took Robinson aside and made him understand what confronted him. He would be verbally and physically assaulted. He would receive death threats for himself and his family. He would be the focal point for every racist group in America and it would probably continue for the tenure of his MLB career. Branch Rickie then added, that he must take it and not fight back in any way, at least for the first few years or the project would have to come to an end.

And that is exactly what happened, and exactly what he did. America saw his class, his dignity, and the fact that he was the best player on the team, if not in all of MLB, and it won over converts. More than one of the players on the team and around the team, including fans, said that Jackie Robinson made them better people as he helped them overcome racism.

Interestingly, Jackie Robinson was also a Republican, for he thought that the doctrine of self help was exactly what the black community needed to hear. Of course, he was not a partisan shill. In fact, he did not like Barry Goldwater in the least.

“I’m a black man first,” he once calmly stated, while appearing on a 1968 television program, “an American second, and then I will support a political party—third.”

Like the vast majority of black Republicans in 1964, Robinson vehemently opposed Republican presidential nominee Barry Goldwater. That year, he chaired a chapter of “Republicans for Johnson” and likened black Goldwater supporters to racial sellouts and “Uncle Toms.” But his rejection of Goldwater did not affect his affiliation—in fact, he remained a Republican, and in July 1964 he helped found the National Negro Republican Assembly, a national black Republican protest organization that grew out of the nightmarish experience of black Republicans at the 1964 Republican National Convention at the Cow Palace in San Francisco

So the next time someone tries to sell you the notion that all Republicans are racists via their mindless and toxic partisan drivil, tell them this. In fact, Hillary once referred to herself as a "Goldwater girl".

Originally posted by whodeyI would like to celebrate MLK day by talking about his close friend, Jackie Robinson.

It has been said that Jackie Robinson had as much to do with the progress of civil rights as MLK himself. For you see, baseball had been a big influence of the culture during that time, and Jackie was the first black to be allowed to play in MLB. Before accepting the rol ...[text shortened]... , tell them this. In fact, Hillary once referred to herself as a "Goldwater girl".

Go figure.

More "equivalence" because you can't understand how some Republicans can be upset that Donald Trump insulted John Lewis.

Even though Jackie Robinson said that he's a black man first, an American second and a member of a political party third, you still purport to hold him up in this mockery of a thread by claiming he was a Republican. Because who cares if he was a black American, right, whodey?

Originally posted by SuzianneMore "equivalence" because you can't understand how some Republicans can be upset that Donald Trump insulted John Lewis.

Even though Jackie Robinson said that he's a black man first, an American second and a member of a political party third, you still purport to hold him up in this mockery of a thread by claiming he was a Republican. Because who cares if he was a black American, right, whodey?

What a lilting, comely voice you must have in real life, since on here you remind of fingernails aggressively scraped down a chalkboard.

Considering your many previous shameless C/Ps without mentioning the source it's only common sense to google your posts and pointing out when it's another person's post. Except in this case it's your own post under a different name.... meh, mistakes happen.

But yeah, I believe it's your account on that website based on some more posts. I recognize the rambling Obama rants.

Originally posted by whodeySo the next time someone tries to sell you the notion that all Republicans are racists via their mindless and toxic partisan drivil, tell them this. In fact, Hillary once referred to herself as a "Goldwater girl".

Given that the US political parties have changed considerably over the years, it seams unreasonable to claim that because the party had particular members decades ago, then current members are not racist.
Of course I personally concede that there are republican party members who are not racist. I still think anyone that voted for Trump is an ignorant fool. I also think that much of the toxic partisan drivel we see from republicans has elements of racism. I realise however that many party members maintain membership for other political reasons and the two party system in the US essentially means you have to choose between two rather undesirable choices. The same issue exists in Zambia, so its nothing new to me.

Originally posted by twhiteheadGiven that the US political parties have changed considerably over the years, it seams unreasonable to claim that because the party had particular members decades ago, then current members are not racist.
Of course I personally concede that there are republican party members who are not racist. I still think anyone that voted for Trump is an ignorant foo ...[text shortened]... tween two rather undesirable choices. The same issue exists in Zambia, so its nothing new to me.

I'm no Trump fan but to say the man is a racist I think is plain crazy.

Trump was not ever referred to as a racist before he decided to run for President as the left pulls out their race card like they do for everyone who runs. They have race baited so much that now if a real racist comes along the wolf will finally devour them.

Trump has always cared about one thing, money.

I would say that Trump is just as much of a racist as Hilary in that respect.

Originally posted by whodeyI'm no Trump fan but to say the man is a racist I think is plain crazy.

You will note that I didn't say it. I wonder why its on your mind?
I don't see why it would be crazy, there may be good reasons to think he is racist.

Trump was not ever referred to as a racist before he decided to run for President as the left pulls out their race card like they do for everyone who runs. Are you sure? You have on record, everything Trump was ever referred to as before running for president? That's nearly as stupid a claim as checkbaiter claiming to know every one of Obama's school mates and girlfriends.

They have race baited so much that now if a real racist comes along the wolf will finally devour them.Whether Trump is racist or not, it remains the case that he has courted racists and has a significant number of racist supporters.

Originally posted by whodeyI'm no Trump fan but to say the man is a racist I think is plain crazy.

Trump was not ever referred to as a racist before he decided to run for President as the left pulls out their race card like they do for everyone who runs. They have race baited so much that now if a real racist comes along the wolf will finally devour them.

Trump has always cared ...[text shortened]... e thing, money.

I would say that Trump is just as much of a racist as Hilary in that respect.

Your last sentence seems to imply that Clinton is a racist, care to justify that?