Why are most of these D's so unauthentic? Hillary with her shuck & jive "I don't feel no waaays tarred", hot sauce in her purse nonsense, Liz Warren and her fake heritage, couldn't even drink a beer in her kitchen without looking like a phony, Beto O'Rourke the fake Latino, etc. etc. The only ones who come off authentic are Bernie & AOC. Not saying they are authentic, but at least they appear to be. It shouldn't be this hard.

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Why are most of these D's so unauthentic? Hillary with her shuck & jive "I don't feel no waaays tarred", hot sauce in her purse nonsense, Liz Warren and her fake heritage, couldn't even drink a beer in her kitchen without looking like a phony, Beto O'Rourke the fake Latino, etc. etc. The only ones who come off authentic are Bernie & AOC. Not saying they are authentic, but at least they appear to be. It shouldn't be this hard.

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Why are most of these D's so unauthentic? Hillary with her shuck & jive "I don't feel no waaays tarred", hot sauce in her purse nonsense, Liz Warren and her fake heritage, couldn't even drink a beer in her kitchen without looking like a phony, Beto O'Rourke the fake Latino, etc. etc. The only ones who come off authentic are Bernie & AOC. Not saying they are authentic, but at least they appear to be. It shouldn't be this hard.

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Hold on there howie. It would be hypocritical not to criticize the Mayor for cheating on his wife. It’s different for Harris b/c she appears to have used it to gain political status with a higher salary. Trump gained no status by cheating on his wife. Just a ton of criticism from you and other Lefties. Also, it does set back the MeToo movement when they are asking men not to view them as sex objects, but then proceeding to be one.

Whoever was the sexual instigator in her relationship with the Mayor, she either okayed his sexual advances, which promotes the notion of men seeking sexual relationships from women at work, or she sought the sexual relationship with a married man, possibly for the benefit her career. She was naughty either way.

I’m not concerned about her lack of morals with regard to her illicit sexual affair. I’m concerned about her lack of integrity to promote her career by her willingness to gain from her sexual relationship. Not to mention her making it harder for women not to be viewed as sexual objects or men’s play things. We were to understand that’s it’s all men’s faults.

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The guy grew up on construction sites in Queens & the main complaint of the left seems to be, that he doesn't come off as elite enough or sophisticated enough. Hard to reconcile your knee-jerk reaction to attack Trump on all things, with that blatant double standard.

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Perhaps, but I think she genuinely believes the stuff she says. Kamala, Beto, Hillary, Biden and most of the R's (to be fair) are political opportunists who will say whatever is convenient in the moment. If the D party did a 180' and began opposing abortion tomorrow, by next week they would all be pro-life. They have no integrity, or convictions in what they're doing. It's just a profit/power scheme to them. AOC genuinely believes in her issues. My 0.02

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Hold on there howie. It would be hypocritical not to criticize the Mayor for cheating on his wife. It’s different for Harris b/c she appears to have used it to gain political status with a higher salary. Trump gained no status by cheating on his wife. Just a ton of criticism from you and other Lefties. Also, it does set back the MeToo movement when they are asking men not to view them as sex objects, but then proceeding to be one.

Whoever was the sexual instigator in her relationship with the Mayor, she either okayed his sexual advances, which promotes the notion of men seeking sexual relationships from women at work, or she sought the sexual relationship with a married man, possibly for the benefit her career. She was naughty either way.

I’m not concerned about her lack of morals with regard to her illicit sexual affair. I’m concerned about her lack of integrity to promote her career by her willingness to gain from her sexual relationship. Not to mention her making it harder for women not to be viewed as sexual objects or men’s play things. We were to understand that’s it’s all men’s faults.

Lol. If you happily support a guy who banged a porn star just after the birth of his 5th kid by his 3rd wife, you lose the right to criticize other candidates for their private lives without being labeled a hypocrite. Spare me "it's different." You have no idea what she gained from it, if anything. And it was 20 years ago. And if the person she was dating got her foot in the door, is that different than someone's daddy getting their foot in the door? Or daddies money getting their foot in the door? Is everything she has done since then somehow invalid?

She is not my first choice. But this BS coming from Trump worshippers, most of whom consider themselves the best Christians, is beyond rich.

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Lol. If you happily support a guy who banged a porn star just after the birth of his 5th kid by his 3rd wife, you lose the right to criticize other candidates for their private lives without being labeled a hypocrite. Spare me "it's different." You have no idea what she gained from it, if anything. And it was 20 years ago. And if the person she was dating got her foot in the door, is that different than someone's daddy getting their foot in the door? Or daddies money getting their foot in the door? Is everything she has done since then somehow invalid?

She is not my first choice. But this BS coming from Trump worshippers, most of whom consider themselves the best Christians, is beyond rich.

No, we do know what she gained from it. Willie Brown told us what she got from it. He named her to two state commissions, gave her a raise and helped her get elected as DA for San Francisco. As he put it "I influenced her career" as a result of her putting out for Brown. He was 60 y/o, she was 29 y/o. She bangs guys for money & power. She's not the only whore in DC, but she's certainly a whore.

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Lol. If you happily support a guy who banged a porn star just after the birth of his 5th kid by his 3rd wife, you lose the right to criticize other candidates for their private lives without being labeled a hypocrite. Spare me "it's different." You have no idea what she gained from it, if anything. And it was 20 years ago. And if the person she was dating got her foot in the door, is that different than someone's daddy getting their foot in the door? Or daddies money getting their foot in the door? Is everything she has done since then somehow invalid?

She is not my first choice. But this BS coming from Trump worshippers, most of whom consider themselves the best Christians, is beyond rich.

Howie, you appear to be the hypocrite. You haven’t repeatedly claimed that Trump inherited his wealth and that was proof he’s untalented? Is not everything that he’s done since validation of his business acumen?

And yes, gaining from family relationships is different than gaining from having a sexual relationship with your benefactor. At least in my family, maybe not yours.

You need to make up your mind and stop determining competence and morality based political philosophy.

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Howie, you appear to be the hypocrite. You haven’t repeatedly claimed that Trump inherited his wealth and that was proof he’s untalented? Is not everything that he’s done since validation of his business acumen?

And yes, gaining from family relationships is different than gaining from having a sexual relationship with your benefactor. At least in my family, maybe not yours.

You need to make up your mind and stop determining competence and morality based political philosophy.

No. I haven't. Trump has shown himself to be utterly ignorant of how government works which makes him unfit to be President (among many other reasons). The source of his wealth is only relevant if you think the fact that he's a billionaire meansshe surely knows what he's doing and will make a brilliant President.

This apparently was not a secret and is not a new story. She was elected the AG of California and Senator from California with the public knowing who she dated 20 years ago.

I don't care that Trump has the personal morals of an alley cat, just like I didn't care that Bill Clinton did. And I don't care who Harris dated when she was 30. If you do, that's fine. Just be consistent. I just get sick of the Bible Thumpers picking and choosing when they care about it.

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No, we do know what she gained from it. Willie Brown told us what she got from it. He named her to two state commissions, gave her a raise and helped her get elected as DA for San Francisco. As he put it "I influenced her career" as a result of her putting out for Brown. He was 60 y/o, she was 29 y/o. She bangs guys for money & power. She's not the only whore in DC, but she's certainly a whore.

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No. I haven't. Trump has shown himself to be utterly ignorant of how government works which makes him unfit to be President (among many other reasons). The source of his wealth is only relevant if you think the fact that he's a billionaire meansshe surely knows what he's doing and will make a brilliant President.

This apparently was not a secret and is not a new story. She was elected the AG of California and Senator from California with the public knowing who she dated 20 years ago.

I don't care that Trump has the personal morals of an alley cat, just like I didn't care that Bill Clinton did. And I don't care who Harris dated when she was 30. If you do, that's fine. Just be consistent. I just get sick of the Bible Thumpers picking and choosing when they care about it.

And I don’t care that Harris had an affair with the mayor. I only care that she didn’t have the integrity not to benefit from having sex with the mayor. She sold herself. At least Stormy acknowledges that’s what she does for a living.

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And I don’t care that Harris had an affair with the mayor. I only care that she didn’t have the integrity not to benefit from having sex with the mayor. She sold herself. At least Stormy acknowledges that’s what she does for a living.