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Re: Yemen says U.S.-born al Qaeda cleric Anwar al-Awlaki killed

Originally Posted by jasonxe

I'm asking if our foreign policy did anything to give them motive to attack us

Also congrats to me on my 300th post :-D. I get a second hammer thingy below my name.

In a technical sense, there's no doubt, but that doesn't excuse their actions, nor does it mean that there is anything wrong with our foreign policy toward the ME, aside from our foreign policy not being tough enough toward Muslim extremists.

Originally Posted by Top Cat

At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

Re: Yemen says U.S.-born al Qaeda cleric Anwar al-Awlaki killed

Originally Posted by apdst

Because they're assholes. There will always be assholes in the world, hence the reason to kill them, so as to keep the asshole population to a manageble level.

Honestly apdst, I don't know what the answer is. You kill one asshole and another appears. What changes? No one answered my question. Can we leave our shoes on in the airports now? Of course not. Now we can all sit here and congratulate ourselves on the fact that this one particular asshole is dead but it doesn't change a thing adpst. This is what we have to look forward to for the rest of our lives and when/if we have children that's what they have to look forward to as well.

Re: Yemen says U.S.-born al Qaeda cleric Anwar al-Awlaki killed

Originally Posted by Serenity

Honestly apdst, I don't know what the answer is. You kill one asshole and another appears. What changes? No one answered my question. Can we leave our shoes on in the airports now? Of course not. Now we can all sit here and congratulate ourselves on the fact that this one particular asshole is dead but it doesn't change a thing adpst. This is what we have to look forward to for the rest of our lives and when/if we have children that's what they have to look forward to as well.

Does anyone believe that peace is still a goal?

The answer is to rain down more death and destruction on the enemy. When was the last time that Germany, or Japan tried to pull some **** on another country?

Originally Posted by Top Cat

At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

Re: Yemen says U.S.-born al Qaeda cleric Anwar al-Awlaki killed

Originally Posted by apdst

In a technical sense, there's no doubt, but that doesn't excuse their actions, nor does it mean that there is anything wrong with our foreign policy toward the ME, aside from our foreign policy not being tough enough toward Muslim extremists.

Well there is no doubt our foreign policy played a huge role in why they attacked us on 9/11. But we all agree, two wrongs don't make a right.
What did we do after we both took shots at each other? We invaded two countries and bomb three others that had nothing to do with 9//11. We didn't even touch Saudi Arabia where majority of the terrorist came from whom attacked us. We've also killed thousands of innocent civilians in the process while disrespecting other nations sovereignty. We aren't making any friends and soon will have to leave just because our economy won't be able to handle it. Aka Soviet Union repeat.

Originally Posted by apdst

The answer is to rain down more death and destruction on the enemy. When was the last time that Germany, or Japan tried to pull some **** on another country?

The simple answer is trade. After the war, we traded with Japan and develop relations (not sure about Germany right after). We accomplished more in peace & trade then we've ever did in war. Same with the Vietnamese after the Vietnam war.

Re: Yemen says U.S.-born al Qaeda cleric Anwar al-Awlaki killed

Well there is no doubt our foreign policy played a huge role in why they attacked us on 9/11. But we all agree, two wrongs don't make a right.

Our foreign policy was shaped as it was, because of their crap, to begin with.

What did we do after we both took shots at each other? We invaded two countries and bomb three others that had nothing to do with 9//11. We didn't even touch Saudi Arabia where majority of the terrorist came from whom attacked us. We've also killed thousands of innocent civilians in the process while disrespecting other nations sovereignty. We aren't making any friends and soon will have to leave just because our economy won't be able to handle it. Aka Soviet Union repeat.

Actually, one of those countries had alot to do with 9/11 and those civilians wouldn't have died, if they hadn't sat on their asses while a bloodthirsty bunch twisted cocksuckers were killing innocents elsewhere.

The simple answer is trade. After the war, we traded with Japan and develop relations (not sure about Germany right after). We accomplished more in peace & trade then we've ever did in war. Same with the Vietnamese after the Vietnam war.

The actual answer, is we gave them such an ass whippin' that going to war was the last thing on their minds.

Originally Posted by Top Cat

At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

Re: Yemen says U.S.-born al Qaeda cleric Anwar al-Awlaki killed

Originally Posted by apdst

Our foreign policy was shaped as it was, because of their crap, to begin with.

Actually, one of those countries had alot to do with 9/11 and those civilians wouldn't have died, if they hadn't sat on their asses while a bloodthirsty bunch twisted cocksuckers were killing innocents elsewhere.

The actual answer, is we gave them such an ass whippin' that going to war was the last thing on their minds.

Im sorry, did Saddam attack us on 9/11? And last I check 16 of the 19 hjackers that came from Saudi Arabia whom we didn't attack. I wonder why....

Also we sure gave those Vietnamese a whoopin!

And if I remember correctly the japanese wanted to suicide themselves before letting America come in and take over there country (sounds familiar). There is still a lot of resentment over the two nukes we dropped but over or trade and relations since then, it doesn't serve anyone to cause a war.