Chris Luva wrote:Sadly, too many fans don't realize how terrible the organization was. They don't understand how much work has gone into it. This franchise is not what it used to be, but at least we're no longer the laughing stock of the league. It's an organization that's viewed in a positive light now. I'm grateful for that.

Chris Luva wrote:Sadly, too many fans don't realize how terrible the organization was. They don't understand how much work has gone into it. This franchise is not what it used to be, but at least we're no longer the laughing stock of the league. It's an organization that's viewed in a positive light now. I'm grateful for that.

the team needs to win games first.

Excellent point, you always are on target. Just for my reference, how many games do we need to win? At what point can we bring you back into the fold and count on your support?

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Chris Luva wrote:Sadly, too many fans don't realize how terrible the organization was. They don't understand how much work has gone into it. This franchise is not what it used to be, but at least we're no longer the laughing stock of the league. It's an organization that's viewed in a positive light now. I'm grateful for that.

the team needs to win games first.

Excellent point, you always are on target. Just for my reference, how many games do we need to win? At what point can we bring you back into the fold and count on your support?

Didn't you know, Frank? He's the only real fan out there.

I know he got a pretty good zip on the ball. He has a quick release. . . once I seen a coupla' throws, I was just like 'Yeah, he's that dude.'"

Sadly, too many fans don't realize how terrible the organization was. They don't understand how much work has gone into it. This franchise is not what it used to be, but at least we're no longer the laughing stock of the league. It's an organization that's viewed in a positive light now. I'm grateful for that.

It's similar to the current economic situation. Things were so screwed up it takes a lot of time to fix.

Irn-Bru wrote:My own observation last year was that merely adequate, much less accurate, QB play would have nudged us over the edge. We were clearly a competitive team, but we made mistakes that kept us from closing things out. A stout running attack and adequate defense were enough to keep us in it. What we needed were good throws on 3rd down to keep drives alive, and a big play down the field now and then to make other teams respect the threat we represented. We just weren't going to get that from Grossman, though he was a good enough game manager to keep us in the mix though disadvantaged.

As I said at the time and then again leading up to the draft, we really were that close to winning games: add competitive QB play, and I think we're going to be able to give teams problems. QB was our bottleneck. It isn't anymore.

Time will tell, but so far I am still confident with my prediction. The preseason went well for RGIII, and I'm inclined to believe all the sources who say the offeason camps and workouts went just as well, too.

Heck, if you take all of Rex's strip sacks and picks to wide open LBs and simply turn them into fetal-position give ups we go 8-8.

Still, we could be a much better team across the board and have the same record. We easily play 5 playoff-caliber teams outside our division. That makes 11 games against really good teams. 8-8 would be a terrific year and, again ...

No QB picked 1 or 2 overall has ever led his team to a .500 or better record.

Irn-Bru wrote:My own observation last year was that merely adequate, much less accurate, QB play would have nudged us over the edge. We were clearly a competitive team, but we made mistakes that kept us from closing things out. A stout running attack and adequate defense were enough to keep us in it. What we needed were good throws on 3rd down to keep drives alive, and a big play down the field now and then to make other teams respect the threat we represented. We just weren't going to get that from Grossman, though he was a good enough game manager to keep us in the mix though disadvantaged.

As I said at the time and then again leading up to the draft, we really were that close to winning games: add competitive QB play, and I think we're going to be able to give teams problems. QB was our bottleneck. It isn't anymore.

Time will tell, but so far I am still confident with my prediction. The preseason went well for RGIII, and I'm inclined to believe all the sources who say the offeason camps and workouts went just as well, too.

Heck, if you take all of Rex's strip sacks and picks to wide open LBs and simply turn them into fetal-position give ups we go 8-8.

Still, we could be a much better team across the board and have the same record. We easily play 5 playoff-caliber teams outside our division. That makes 11 games against really good teams. 8-8 would be a terrific year and, again ...

No QB picked 1 or 2 overall has ever led his team to a .500 or better record.

we could see incredible perfomances from our LBs this season - Fletcher, Kerrigan, Orakpo and Riley - these are a special group

we are getting better and we really could win 8 or more games

we really just need to keep making progress

this first game IMO could go either way but it's going to be awfully difficult to compete against one of the NFL's best QBs right now

we just have to hope that we see a lot of good things from our guys .... win or lose

that's a good thing

P A T I E N C E - The Redskins will improve the product on the field if Dan Snyder just let's Scott & his FO do their jobs Dan needs to stop screwing things up and let Scott get this franchise back together

Deadskins wrote:I'm starting Brees in two leagues. With our DB situation, how could you not?

+1 - I agree with this - I'm not a Fantasy player but Drew Brees would be high on my QB list if I did

RGIII could have a great game and we might still lose - the Saints are one of the better NFC teams

that's what we're looking for here - seeing this team show that they can compete with the better teams each and every Sunday

P A T I E N C E - The Redskins will improve the product on the field if Dan Snyder just let's Scott & his FO do their jobs Dan needs to stop screwing things up and let Scott get this franchise back together

The ones that beat the Superbowl winners twice and went toe-to-toe with the Patriots last season, staying with them until well into the 4th quarter - or the Redskins that went north of the border and got shutout by Buffalo. Stinky, rubbish, Buffalo.

With the upgrades we now have at QB and WR, those first Redskins could pull off a great win in N'orleans.

Those upgrades alone wouldn't be enough to turn around a performance like the one against Buffalo however.