There are stiff P2's? All the ones I have are very close to R-Pro, all the other ones I've felt or seen was very close to R-Pro. If it was just a lil more DX Aviar or stiff KC Pro. But it isn't so I went back to my soft wizards.

I love this putter so much... it's got the stability I need, without a bead, which fits my game better, personally speaking.

The S-Line though is a bit more stable, and I tried to like it, but it was just a bit too much. So I bought a stack and keep cycling "driver P2s" in and out, while keeping my pretty beat first runs as putters only. They hold up pretty well... I guess that's because I don't hit too many trees

And after reading this thread, I've noticed that the newer ones we've received here at MSt have gravitated towards the stiffer side, but are still pretty flexy imo... it is possible we're missing out on stiff ones... I'm not sure.

I also still send my monthly notice to discmania's facebook page for PP2's...

himynameismatt wrote:There are stiff P2's? All the ones I have are very close to R-Pro, all the other ones I've felt or seen was very close to R-Pro. If it was just a lil more DX Aviar or stiff KC Pro. But it isn't so I went back to my soft wizards.

I would love me some more of those r-pro types, kinda like the good First Runs. The current Psychoes are indeed stiff, tho I wouldnt compare them to KC-pro, I still say theyre pretty damn hard. KC-Pro P2 would be da shizniz tho!!

Luckily I got a lil batch of softer Psychoes, with super grippy plastic. They beat in pretty nicely, and wont get slippery when wet, nor in Moon Valley conditions (ton of sand).

Loop wrote:I would love me some more of those r-pro types, kinda like the good First Runs.

What the? The good and only FR D-P2s I remember were stiffer than regular DX and had a sort of waxy, matte finish and feel to them. But they were sort of R-Pro like in that when flexed they felt more springy, guess you could call it rubbery instead of plasticky.

Parks wrote:If the posts on this forum are any indication, the PD is like a Teebird with sunshine coming out of its butthole so hard that it flies faster.

Loop wrote:I would love me some more of those r-pro types, kinda like the good First Runs.

What the? The good and only FR D-P2s I remember were stiffer than regular DX and had a sort of waxy, matte finish and feel to them. But they were sort of R-Pro like in that when flexed they felt more springy, guess you could call it rubbery instead of plasticky.

There were a ton of different FRs. Some were really flexy and grippy, some were really hard and slippery, and some were in between those types. Ok maybe R-Pro is indeed softer, but compared to i.e. previous R-Pro Rocs, the plastic was pretty similar. My main putter is pretty soft, with a caved in top and that matte finish that gives it a really nice grip. Most of my FRs are like that, some are gummier and some a bit plastickier. But I do have one 177g, hard as a porslin plate, white one too. Naturally I dont use it tho, since its overweight and all.

so im liking the p2s now,for how long i dont know i tried the s line before but gave up on it quickly.i regret not tossing the d lines at the time so now i am and i like them. not too soft and not stiff but i would love to see a p line p2. so far these have been working good in these "colder" rounds when my thumb tends to slip off premium putters .

I like my P2s. I go back and forth to Ions, but for now they're in my bag. I putt with the older d-line P2s (non-psycho stamp), and I have one that is beat to hell that has become my main putter. I like the s-line for short drives or FH shots.