Post by know ID yuh on Nov 17, 2010 17:45:10 GMT -8

I'm going to continue laughing each time you say a rapper should be a role model. That's just me though.

Who said this? That is pretty funny.

You said Kanye should be a role model because of his celebrity status. Kanye is a rapper. I know you are not saying 100% of rappers have to be role models, but in this specific example, you are saying Kanye, the rapper, should.

Having a lot of Kanye's lyrics memorized, I never thought, "you know, I want my daughter to date someone like Kanye. He seems like he has really solid values."

Post by wolfhat on Nov 17, 2010 18:08:50 GMT -8

Allow me to clarify. I am saying that Kanye IS a role model, not that he should be. As a parent I'm sure you appreciate the difference. Believe me, if I had it my way he wouldn't be. I must have been sick that day.

Post by interstateeight on Nov 17, 2010 21:36:24 GMT -8

You said Kanye should be a role model because of his celebrity status. Kanye is a rapper. I know you are not saying 100% of rappers have to be role models, but in this specific example, you are saying Kanye, the rapper, should.

Having a lot of Kanye's lyrics memorized, I never thought, "you know, I want my daughter to date someone like Kanye. He seems like he has really solid values."

Thus me thinking the correlation is funny.

Are you kidding? I want my daughters to learn the value of not being a gold digger... which is what I think the message of that song was.

Post by know ID yuh on Nov 17, 2010 22:39:52 GMT -8

You said Kanye should be a role model because of his celebrity status. Kanye is a rapper. I know you are not saying 100% of rappers have to be role models, but in this specific example, you are saying Kanye, the rapper, should.

Having a lot of Kanye's lyrics memorized, I never thought, "you know, I want my daughter to date someone like Kanye. He seems like he has really solid values."

Thus me thinking the correlation is funny.

Are you kidding? I want my daughters to learn the value of not being a gold digger... which is what I think the message of that song was.

What? Like I'm going to think someone who based their username off a Modest Mouse album will understand the meaning of a Kanye West track? You are sleepwalking through the allnight diner there I8.

Being the resident Kanye expert, I am more than willing to skool you to the real meaning of "Gold Digger." You can be a celebrity football player driving a Hyundai, and still bag a chick who fucked with Usher. Don't underestimate the sex appeal of a 10 year warranty.

Post by newjersey on Nov 22, 2010 10:15:14 GMT -8

Pitchfork goes back and changes their review scores of albums once they are regarded as classics. 10.0 means essentially nothing.

This wasn't a re-release, though. They almost never give 10s on first releases. Besides, it's not just Pitchfork: everysinglefuckingreview (hyperlinks ahoy) of this album have been overwhelmingly positive. Even Chris Weingarten (link), who is essentially the east coast amalgam of interstate and hornedgramma, loved this album. This isn't a Pitchfork thing. This is a music media establishment thing.