Doom 64 for Doom II

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Doom 64 maps recreated or reimagined with vanilla Doom II assets, and made to run within the original vanilla limits. Not all maps are perfect recreations; the goal was to recreate the major aspects of the maps while allowing for creative liberties where needed or wanted.

In addition to the maps, there are some new graphics, new sky textures, a few new textures where needed, some new music tracks, and a few new monsters.

This project was a community effort and was started by Death Egg in May 2013. Sometime later the project was handed off to BaronOfStuff but was abandoned not too long after that. In February 2017, Death Egg stepped back in to hand the project's leadership over to Mechadon, and it was finished a year and a half later.

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SubmittedAugust 4, 2018

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mArt1And00m3r11339

Credits

Community Chest 4 team for the cc4-tex. ID Software for the game (and cyberdemon's roar from Doom 3). Rocket launcher, floor lowering, and player pain and death sounds from Demonologist's WAD, Forever More. Some sounds from Ancient Aliens (aa-tex).

Base

New from scratch

Build Time

3.5 months

Editors Used

GZDoom Builder, Slade

Bugs

Level 1 (in video, I forgot to change the flat from ALLBLAKF to F_SKY1. In the file, I fixed it). Level 7 (clear lines appear in the sky texture). If anything else comes up, be sure to address them to MArt1And00m3r11339 on Doomworld (or post the issues in the videos on YouTube, which can be found in the playlist linked in the description).

Description : Red Dust 1 takes place in the red dust zone in space. This can be a tribute to Zachary Stephen's Stardate WADs, since this one and the ones mentioned both take place in space. Some levels are relatively short and others can be extremely grindy. Just to warn players that in ZDoom-based engines, monster spawnfrags are possible, so stay out of the teleporting spots.

Level comments: Level 1 - Beginner's Bad Luck (Inspired by level 11 from Super Mayhem 17 [but with no berserk pack], included a cyberdemon fight at the end)
Level 2 - Exhaustion (The player is tired after taking a trip)
Level 3 - Fight me (somewhat inspired by level 3 from Feck Yoo)
Level 4 - Endurance (just blast your way through enemies and you will be fine)
Level 5 - Angry Snowflake (involves punching enemies to death using a berserk pack)
Level 6 - Watermelon (Some areas have red and green textures, resembling the colors from a watermelon)
Level 7 - Two Sides (The player does two sides of the map for win)
Level 8 - Cybers Eat Pork (Like For NIH, the player punches the cyberdemons with a berserk pack. The player has the option to unleash the demons for the cyberdemons to destroy)
Level 9 - Mancubus Chamber (Player is in a chamber full of mancubii. The player will have to fight arch-viles that resurrect the enemies)
Level 10 - Invasion (enemies spawn to seek to destroy the player)
Level 11 - Sorry, pistols only (The player must combat every enemy using only a pistol, berserk punchin is welcome)
Level 12 - Thank you for playing (prevents the player from proceeding to the future levels)

The demos for the levels can be found at: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm8AwdYOntbLvmdtuFvcfE-JiJ1-TFnIX

Additional Credits to : Community Chest 4 team for the cc4-tex.
ID Software for the game (and cyberdemon's roar from Doom 3).
Rocket launcher, floor lowering, and player pain and death sounds from Demonologist's WAD, Forever More.
Some sounds from Ancient Aliens (aa-tex).

Game : Doom 2
Map # : 01-12 (12 is the intermission level)
Single Player : Designed for
Cooperative 2-4 Player : Designed for
Deathmatch 2-4 Player : No
Other game styles : None
Difficulty Settings : Yes (in some levels)

* Construction *

Base : New from scratch
Build Time : 3.5 months
Editor(s) used : GZDoom Builder, Slade
Known Bugs : Level 1 (in video, I forgot to change the flat from ALLBLAKF to F_SKY1. In the file, I fixed it). Level 7 (clear lines appear in the sky texture). If anything else comes up, be sure to address them to MArt1And00m3r11339 on Doomworld (or post the issues in the videos on YouTube, which can be found in the playlist linked in the description).
May Not Run With : Engines known to have problems with the levels
Tested With : glboom-plus-2.5.1.4

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Shocked to see so many negative reviews. I had an absolute blast with this one, and I'm not sure what Nems was talking about with the Boom stuff as this runs in Doom2.exe with no trouble. In fact, there is a TON of impressive vanilla stuff going on here. I guess it was so well done that it tricked him.

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it should be obvious to those who are playing this that this is NOT another Doom 64 TC. it's recreating the levels of Doom 64 as Doom II levels, which is why you see other monsters and a few changes to layout as well.

i'm not gonna give this a good score though. but this may be because I just don't like Doom 64's levels in general. even when you cut out the atmosphere and enhance the gameplay and layout of the maps here there's still some bashful puzzles to solve and well, the levels are longer than they really are. my Doom 64 opinion of course.

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I really wanted to like this more. I mean, I do like it but I feel like the gripes I have regarding it just bring my overall rating for it down too much.

It was interesting to see how, at first, the authors recreated the Doom 64 levels in Doom 2 with just vanilla assets. You can still see some of that in the Boom levels like how revenants and arch-viles are used in place of where traps where. That was an interesting touch and I liked that.

As I got further into it though and more of the Boom tricks were used my thoughts wandered from "hey this is a nice vanilla interpretation" to "man I could be playing Doom 64 EX or Doom 64 Retribution". I really wish they would have stuck with vanilla constraints for this reinterpretation. I would have liked to see how they would have handed nightmare monster placement (would a nightmare imp be worth two imps or three, for example). I feel like using Boom and DeHacked cheapened the experience, like they were trying to replicate Doom 64 as close as possible rather than doing a vanilla Doom (2) interpretation.

Additionally, map 30 can fuck right the hell off with that puzzle bullshit.

Anyway, if you don't mind any of the complaints I made, you'll likely have fun with this. I got some fun out of this as well but to me it feels like it's trying to be exactly like Doom 64 rather than simply a vanilla Doom 2 interpretation of Doom 64. In trying to be exactly like Doom 64, it just makes me want to play that more than this.

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I agree with BChricton78. Rather than being fun to play, this remake just highlights how massive of a difference good lightning and texturing makes to a level/game. I know this isn't the fault of the makers of this mod since they were merely remaking the original Doom 64 levels, but these levels frankly aren't very great when stripped of the improved Doom 64 graphics. So much in fact that it makes me wonder how important level layouts even are compared to other aspects of the visual presentation such as texturing, lightning and rendering.

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Umm... From the brief snippet I played, I'd definitely give them an A for effort... But this just feels... wrong to me. I'm sorry but playing Doom 64, without the lighting, atmosphere, redone sprites and ambient music? No thanks. It just takes away the things that make Doom 64 so special. Still a nice little attempt at recapturing Doom 64, but I'm better off with Doom 64 EX, for my fix.

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And thus, oh you know what I'm going to say already, Doom 64 for Doom II has been finished, played through GlBoom+ 2.5.1.5 on UV.

So for an introduction, as the name implies D64D2 is a recreation of the classic Doom 64 originally released as a console exclusive for the N64. It aims to recreate the levels along with their gameplay using mostly vanilla Doom II resources. It features a new menu background, ENDOOM screen, new music, a few new enemies, namely the Nightmare Imp and Cacodemon as well as the final boss the Mother Demon, a few new textures, new intermission messages, a new end level screen, but no custom sounds or weapons, meaning that the unique and iconic Unmaker was not recreated in any way.

For a recreation, I must say that the levels and their gameplay come quite close to the original Doom 64, nonetheless various liberties have been taken in different forms, ranging from new takes on various puzzles to completely new levels, as well as the usage of the enemies who were absent from the original due to memory limitations. The usage of enemies who were absent from the original game comes with mixed results as it doesn't always work, probably one of the most obvious flaws in the game. This is most noticeable primarily in the levels that came closest to their D64 counterpart as the environment was clearly not designed with them in mind. For instance, you'll encounter Revenants on narrow corridors quite often, and sometimes even Arch-Viles. This isn't a problem in larger areas where it's usually quite fun to fight them, but not in those particular areas. Chaingunners do seem to work quite well however since they can easily blend with the rest of the hitscanners.

Compared to the original D64, a major difference is the tone and atmosphere of the game. D64 was slower paced and more atmospheric, whereas D64D2 is faster paced and puts less emphasis of that element, supported by the amazing but more action/fun oriented soundtrack. Perhaps the darker, much more hellish levels such as Unholy Temple are the most atmospheric levels in the entire game, and also the best looking. Unholy Temple is definitely my favorite level in D64D2.

While on the subject of changes, some of them are very interesting. In the Void is probably the most surprising for me. The original map featured a light blue sky and a rather foggy atmosphere while the level itself was pretty bright, how does this map look like in D64D2? Well, it seems to literally take place in a void now. Indeed, the sky is now pitch black but luckily poor visibility in the level itself was avoided, at least for the most part, so there's no difficulty in seeing the enemies and where they are. It's a change that works quite well, unlike others. The most drastic changes were probably done to The Absolution where you can now locate 3 skulls, but in order to reach them you need to complete their own puzzles first, and they're not the exciting or fun type. The room with the yellow skull was probably the only one that was fun, the others? Well, for the red skull you have to go through an awkward platforming section where everything, including the enemies are... cloaked in darkness, while the room with the blue skull features a puzzle similar to the one seen in the room with the red key (Demon Key on the original D64) on Outpost Omega, except that it's longer, more complex, and more tedious. Not exactly changes done for the better. I don't know how exactly they impact the level though, but in my playthrough I didn't even fight the Mother Demon after aquiring all skulls, I just heard her screaming once while I was fighting the teleporting enemies thinking that she finally showed up to the battle, only for the end level screen to appear immediately afterwards, so I assume she died somehow.

D64D2 also comes with some exclusive levels that were not part of the original D64, and I personally think they're little more than filler maps. They're not awful but nowhere near great either, and I'm unable to find any valid reason for their existence. This is primarily due to their nature. Their gameplay style and tone is very different from all the other levels and in consequence, they feel out of place, not mixing well with the rest of the maps. Still, at least they're very short and straightforward so you don't waste much time with them. And while on the subject, some of the secret levels from the original have been turned into regular maps, meaning that you don't have to search for secret exits to access them anymore. One such example is the previously mentioned Outpost Omega.

All things considered, D64D2 manages to capture the spirit of D64 while also making plenty of changes, yet generally remaining faithful to the original. Some changes might have been done for the worse, but there's plenty done for the better as well. It's pretty short and easy, just like the original, so it can be finished in a day, you can't go wrong with it. A collective effort for an ambitious project that should be well worth your time if you like Doom 64 and want to see a different take on it.

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Doom 64 for Doom II is something I expected to happen for many years.
It captures the essence of vanilla Doom II, while covering it all with layers of Doom 64 content.
Alongside new monster variants, great music, and the minor changes here and there, going through every map entirely was a great experience.
For the record, I played this mappack in GZDoom g3.4.1 with Final Doomer+ v2.4, using the optional hellbar(widescreen).
Hoping to see more stuff like this one in the future!

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For 95' map is really ok. A bit "blocky" design, but not bad. Map is rather big, it takes me 40min but i get lost in one place. Some good traps, IMO kinda challanging at the begining, before you get ssg. Overall good classic wad.

Fun map that captures a nice TNT-ish feel with plenty of weird yet also nice looking rooms, groups of hitscanners and demons to blast through, and a sense of adventure to it. Taking the MAP14 slot, you would see the episode 2 skybox of TNT: Evilution and listen to the track "Cold Subtleness", both creating a nice atmosphere to the map. Worth checking out!

Doesn't like the layout and monster replacements, I didn't found RL until got the yellow key and found a lot of rockets, the location where RL is confusing me, and it also not fun when you get kicked down from the cliffs by Revenants, Mancubus and Archviles after the way to Blue key door, the way to the teleporter just far enough to kill you if not killed by monsters which kicked you down. Final timed puzzle room just nasty as the cyberdemon and archvile fights in the same place, not sure why make the level so big but can't make the fights with them also on bigger place too?
It's not bad level but I'm sure the frustration level is sky high, and not sure the slopes from ZDooM do anything good to this level too.

Normally, I don't like DooM (1 or UD) WADs because I tired shooting baddies with shotgun as most of them tend put a lot of shotgun guys/ammo and I have shot those full of shotty shit...well, this one can't escaped from that but I found author's tricky as I didn't found many of them(or they placed when I needed to use shotty), also the monster placements(with middle-tier ones) in this megawad helped too, even E1 doesn't suffers low-tier ammo-droping-fest unlike IWAD and most PWADs.
Level layouts and theme are interesting, some E3 levels just a little mazed but I feel okay, never get lost...many levels I feel plays like IWAD but better and larger, you'll found middle-tier monsters in E1 levels and it helps the gameplay, unlike the IWAD you'll have too much ammo in every level even pistol start, if you wasted too much and will out of ammo for sure(at least in UV).
All I can say about this megawad is...fun, vanilla fun. Except E3M8, the yellow key area with platforming when all enemies + 4 cyberdemons are try to kill me and battles-of-deal-with-4-cyberdemons-or/and-other-powerful-monsters are nasty to me, on top of them, the final "BOSS"...I feel trolled...really? IoS-style?? IT'S ****ING DOOM, NOT DOOM 2 WHY USE IOS-STYLE AS FINAL BOSS?! :P
(At least there is no respawning monster cubes just annoying cyberdemons and barons...but they're still give me a lot of headaches as the battle area isn't very huge and a little cramped I think...)
But at least IDMUS11 helps me dealt with those problems all, for some reasons I feel the main theme of Power Ranger does fit DooM...don't know why but I keep switch to the theme with IDMUS11 cheat if I don't like the level's music, helps me blast through this megawad and the nasty E3M8. :P

Download the REAL file here (rd1.zip is NOT correct) https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/megawads/d64d2
Shocked to see so many negative reviews. I had an absolute blast with this one, and I'm not sure what Nems was talking about with the Boom stuff as this runs in Doom2.exe with no trouble. In fact, there is a TON of impressive vanilla stuff going on here. I guess it was so well done that it tricked him.
This deserves a high score. It's a lot of fun.