I'm posting this on a few forums and see my last thread in this section was for a similar incident. Here goes friends.

Not that this should be a big surprise. Ebay protects buyers to the ends of the earth but for the sellers - good luck.

Speaking of luck, with any, we'll recoup our funds this time as the merchandise is long gone.

Here's what happened. Some of you may remember when we ran into the large collection of World Paper Money. Much of it went on ebay and some did very well.One guy bought three of the notes. Total price over $500. He used Paypal via his credit card. Notes were shipped REGISTERED.

Then he reversed his credit card charges through the credit card company. Paypal came in and took the funds from our account. At the time it originally happened we had "swept" the Paypal account. In other words it was transferred and our Paypal account was at zero.Well, the boss had a hot deal cooking and the buyer paid with Paypal. What could we tell the guy? We didn't want the money?The minute his funds hit, Paypal yanked the money from us to cover the scammer.

The boss and I just heard of this today. The sale was in October. Scott (my coworker) has been trying to hash it out that long.As I mentioned it was sent REGISTERED. We have the signed delivery confirmation and a copy has been forwarded to Paypal/Ebay.Has Paypal cheerfully refunded us? Of course not. They are now battling the credit card company involved.Maybe my thinking is a bit messed up here but considering that we have given proof that the notes were received it should no longer be OUR problem. Paypals baby now.

I might add that the buyer has been kicked off of ebay and we are one of THREE that we know of that he did this with. One of those folks actually contacted Scott about it.

Hmm... a pattern here? Maybe the sellers are telling the truth? Seems you gotta protect those buyers (and they should) but sellers need a bit more consideration as well.How many legit sellers that have been in business since before the internet existed have gotten burned? I really wonder.

Monday Scott is going to take it a step further. He's going to the post office to see what we have to do to file mail fraud charges (if it's possible). Maybe that will wake this piece of garbage bidder up.

I have been a victim a few times of either1. I never got the package2. it came empty

Now,for those that have received anything from me, it is sometime nearly impossible to open my packages, take out the coins, and then send it on its way. Yet, ebay sides with the buyer. I once shipped a box of pennies (the $25 box) in a flat rate box, packed up tight as can be with tons and tons of tape. buyer says it never showed up. Hmmmm, flat rate boxes just do not go missing. no choice to refund the buyer.

Now to be fair, I have had packages show up to me that have been emptied, damaged, pilfered, etc. As well as one that never showed up. Even so, whenever I get a claim like that, I am skeptical. What does this have to do with this thread? Clembo's point being that seller takes all the risk and while yes, there are dishonest sellers, there are also dishonest buyers