two pioneers heavy bands, who held wright and define the rules of metal, Sabbath more then any, but Queen helped expand the language and expression of heavy rock and metal, few bands can be said to be have as much high standards and few lows as Sabbath and Queen at their highs, with defining gutiars, rumbeling bass, distinct vocals be it Ozzy, Dio or Mercuy for Queens sake, two high class vocalists who changeed rock vocals for ever (Dio and Freddy, can't really say that about Ozzy though a distinct voice with character, not really a good voice but a characteristic voice), precise and pounding drumming with suffisaint techique,

so who is you favourite band of these two pioneers of heavy progressive rock music or heavy metal or theatrical heavy metal or something...

It's a strange pont, but Queen had a lot of influence on heavy metal, but critics very oftenly forget about it. At first, Queen were probably the first band ever who started to distinct blues from heavy rock (and when first Queen album had strong bluesy feeling in some tracks, you'll barely find any blues influences on second, apart from The Loser in the End). Thus, Queen predicted in some way NWOBHM.

In songs like Modern Times Rock'n'Roll, Ogre Battle, Brighton Rock, Stone Cold Crazy and Sheer Heart Attack Queen fastened their sound and de facto invented speed metal and thrash mental (after Metallica covered Stone Cold Crazy critics started to remember this fact, but not always though).

Queen's fantasy lyrics, lush melodies and vocal harmonies mixed with heavy sound became a predecessor of power metal.

And, finally, Queen's tendention to mix heavy sound with strong progressive influences became one of predecessors of prog metal.

Thus, Queen did major contribution in emergence of five metal genres: NWOBHM, speed metal, thrash metal, power metal and progressive metal.

My vote is for Queen :)

Though Black Sabbath were excellent too, and very influentive too. Love both, but vote for Queen.

I was a Queen fanboy back in high school, but today there's very few albums I can still stand. Well maybe "stand" is a strong word, but suffice to say I don't get nearly as much mileage out of them any more. It's mostly Freddie Mercury that just gets on my nerves now. Roger Taylor is still the man.

My interest in Black Sabbath is more limited (first 6 albums, and that's about all I care for), but I think they're more in line with my tastes today. A really good Sabbath song is much more likely to get my blood pumping today than a really good Queen song.

So with some hesitation, I vote Sabbath.

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I own all 18 Black Sabbath albums on CD and 17 of them on vinyl (Forbidden was only printed in 1000 vinyl copies in 1995... haven't found one yet).

So that kind of speaks for itself. From Queen I own their debut album on vinyl and nothing on CD haha :D They're an incredible band though, I love the debut and also lots of songs here and there from their later albums. But Sabbath was, in all it's incarnations, one of the best bands I've ever heard. Every single song from every single album is an inspiring, interesting piece of art.

I own all 18 Black Sabbath albums on CD and 17 of them on vinyl (Forbidden was only printed in 1000 vinyl copies in 1995... haven't found one yet).

So that kind of speaks for itself. From Queen I own their debut album on vinyl and nothing on CD haha :D They're an incredible band though, I love the debut and also lots of songs here and there from their later albums. But Sabbath was, in all it's incarnations, one of the best bands I've ever heard. Every single song from every single album is an inspiring, interesting piece of art.

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It seems rather odd to compare two such dissimilar bands: Queen's influence on metal was for me pretty short lived (début album, Stone Cold Crazy, Brighton Rock)Sabbath's influence on metal was much more prescient and far reachingQueen boasted one of the best and most eclectic songwriters in popular music of the last 50 years (Mercury)Sabbath coined riffs that have become staples for an entire genre but wrote very few bona fide great songs that could survive being transferred outside the metal realmI like them both but for entirely different reasons

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