On this episode we cover developments in the autonomous region of Rojava, Kobane/Kobani (in northern Syria). In this region there is both resistance to ISIL/ISIS/IS/Islamic State, as well as experiments in radically democrat organisational forms – particularly from the PKK (Kurdistan Workers Party). We’re joined by Andy Fleming, who argues against the ABC’s comparisons between ISIL and 19th century anarchists, as well as explaining the anarchist ideology of some of those resisting ISIL and what we can do to support them. You can read his article on these issues here: ‘In Defence Of Anarchism: Tearing Down The Links To The Butchers Of ISIL’, check out his website slackbastard.anarchobase.com, like his Facebook page and follow him on Twitter @slackbastard. You can also read more about the situation in Rojava by reading articles from David Graeber (who links what is going on in Rojava right now to what happened to the anarchists in Barcelona in the 1930s – as is shown in the picture for this episode), Shannon Brincat and thedisorderofthings.com.

You can listen to a short (8 minute) version of this episode, which features a shortened version of our interview with Andy Fleming, here: Revolutionary Kurds Resist ISIL. You can subscribe to these short versions of our episodes through Omny.

This episode has been released in two parts. You can listen to both parts of this episode and subscribe to our podcast on iTunes here and you can also listen to both parts on Cyber Ears here. You can also download part 1 on Archive.org here (58MB) and part 2 on Media Fire here (49MB).