yea I may agree with the vest.. buttttt.. a tie bar is even worse.. a fad that really only works in the MOD sense imo..very much a fad that only works with a skinny tie.. anything over 3.25 and it looks garish..if less is more than he does not need a tie bar.. everything but the vest would work..

I agree with Nate. In what sense is a tie bar considered a fad. My Father wore one in the 1950s and I still see men of good taste wearing them today. From what I see it’s been a fad of no less than 60 years.

Hey guys.. thanks for the props..I wore the vest because of the colder weather but honestly I dont think that it cheapens the suit..I feel that it provides more of a visual break up of a look that is draped in monotony and minimalist approach with the solid suit, tie and black shoes..to each his own is what I usually say, but I like this quirk..as for the tie bar I agree and disagree.. I disagree that it is a fadish look but I do agree it works better with skinny ties than bigger ones. Personally I am not a tie bar guy.. but Ive seen many instances where it does work..thanks again all!