Democrats.From Howard Stern Private Parts:Researcher: The average radio listener listens for eighteen minutes. The average Howard Stern fan listens for - are you ready for this? - an hour and twenty minutes.Pig Vomit: How can that be?Researcher: Answer most commonly given? "I want to see what he'll say next."Pig Vomit: Okay, fine. But what about the people who hate Stern?Researcher: Good point. The average Stern hater listens for two and a half hours a day.Pig Vomit: But... if they hate him, why do they listen?Researcher: Most common answer? "I want to see what he'll say next."

We get what we deserve. You know why CNN airs celebrity nonsense? Because when they put up solidly researched segments on economics, nobody watches. When they put up a piece on whatever the hell Lindsey Lohan is doing these days, people watch.

As I said in the other thread, they won't change a thing and this article fits step 3 to a T

The cycle seems to repeat itself every time.

- Events happens- The media trips over themselves trying to "scoop" one another with new information. Most of this is proven false and then blamed on "fog of war"- 24-48 hours passes and some influential, but fringe, players in the media begin navel gazing about how the media got it wrong and how they should do better- They never do

jayhawk88:It's over, traditional media outlets. When it comes to "breaking news", you can't compete with Twitter/message boards/other social media and web sites. And you're damn sure not going to be able to compete with whatever comes next and replaces these sites. Stop trying.

Yup. Checked Facebook during a lull in class. 19 minutes from the first blast, it was all over the feeds. Went to Twitter. Pics, tweets, first-hand. Went to Fark. News Flash. Fark CNN.

Please, oh please let this be the impetus for CNN putting Wolf Blitzer on extended hiatus. He is the worst and I just can't understand why they insist on trotting that smarmy a-hole out every time something big happens.

LandOfChocolate:- Events happens- The media trips over themselves trying to "scoop" one another with new information. Most of this is proven false and then blamed on "fog of war"- 24-48 hours passes and some influential, but fringe, players in the media begin navel gazing about how the media got it wrong and how they should do better- They never do

I wonder if there would be a market for a news outlet that didn't report anything on news that was less than two hours old. This would give them a chance to vett stories better, and they wouldn't get caught by some of the dumb fliers that get shot down immediately. You would lose some immediacy, but I think that you could improve the quality of your news a lot with just an hour or two of delay.

It's easy to point the finger at CNN, FOX, etc., but the fact remains that viewership is their only real goal. Any truth that is part of the story is nice, but certainly not necessary for them to run their businesses.

We now have so many options of where to get our information. It's up to us as consumers to be able to think critically enough to be able to determine what's worth our time, and what's not. If people stopped paying attention to the vapid garbage broadcast by these stations, eventually it will go away.

LawPD:Please, oh please let this be the impetus for CNN putting Wolf Blitzer on extended hiatus. He is the worst and I just can't understand why they insist on trotting that smarmy a-hole out every time something big happens.

I just really don't understand why these networks feel the need to get the "scoop" when there really is no scoop. When there's an arrest made or major breakthrough in the case, we're all going to find out about it soon enough directly from the source, regardless of which media outlet tells us about it first. You're not breaking a story, you're just reporting what will become common knowledge soon enough.

Do some actual reporting, don't just rush "source" information to the air because you think it's important to be first.

LawPD:Please, oh please let this be the impetus for CNN putting Wolf Blitzer on extended hiatus. He is the worst and I just can't understand why they insist on trotting that smarmy a-hole out every time something big happens.

At least they got rid of Solodad Obrien. All she did was play music for 2 hours.

One great big festering neon distraction,I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied.

Learn to swim.Learn to swim.Learn to swim.Learn to swim.

Cause I'm praying for rainAnd I'm praying for tidal wavesI wanna see the ground give way.I wanna watch it all go down.Mom, please flush it all away.I wanna see it go right in and down.I wanna watch it go right in.Watch you flush it all away.Time to bring it down again.Don't just call me pessimist.Try and read between the lines.I can't imagine why you wouldn'tWelcome any change, my friend.

BalugaJoe:LawPD: Please, oh please let this be the impetus for CNN putting Wolf Blitzer on extended hiatus. He is the worst and I just can't understand why they insist on trotting that smarmy a-hole out every time something big happens.

At least they got rid of Solodad Obrien. All she did was play music for 2 hours.

fireclown:LandOfChocolate: - Events happens- The media trips over themselves trying to "scoop" one another with new information. Most of this is proven false and then blamed on "fog of war"- 24-48 hours passes and some influential, but fringe, players in the media begin navel gazing about how the media got it wrong and how they should do better- They never do

I wonder if there would be a market for a news outlet that didn't report anything on news that was less than two hours old. This would give them a chance to vett stories better, and they wouldn't get caught by some of the dumb fliers that get shot down immediately. You would lose some immediacy, but I think that you could improve the quality of your news a lot with just an hour or two of delay.

/0.02

Yep. It was called the nightly news. It died in the WTC on 9/11. It's been replaced with fluff and hung out to dry. There were way less copy cats ass they mulled the decision of what information to release.

The public's need for immediate gratification has been lit and any attempt to go back will be met from all sides as censorship.

Le sigh. The good ole days where we wanted for cartoons and news. Now we have to personally filter through 24 hours of shiat and self-edit the information until we all give up and refuse any more in.

fireclown:We get what we deserve. You know why CNN airs celebrity nonsense? Because when they put up solidly researched segments on economics, nobody watches. When they put up a piece on whatever the hell Lindsey Lohan is doing these days, people watch.

Toby Flenderson:It's easy to point the finger at CNN, FOX, etc., but the fact remains that viewership is their only real goal. Any truth that is part of the story is nice, but certainly not necessary for them to run their businesses.

We now have so many options of where to get our information. It's up to us as consumers to be able to think critically enough to be able to determine what's worth our time, and what's not. If people stopped paying attention to the vapid garbage broadcast by these stations, eventually it will go away.

Viewership could be an excuse for FOX, but CNN ratings have been plummeting for years and they keep getting dumber.

somedude210:for those that missed it, here's the full 90 minutes of fail

I'm sure it's chock full of fail, but I think I'll avoid watching it out of concern it will deplete any remaining hope I may have left for Humanity and want to start making some pressure cooker bombs of my own.

BalugaJoe:At least they got rid of Solodad Obrien. All she did was play music for 2 hours.

I liked Solodad. Sure the format of her show sucked ass, who the fark cares what some idiot minor celebrity's opinion of the days new is but at least she had the stones to stand up to the people she was interviewing that came on the show to spew bullshiat.

This Creeping Stoopid is the inevitable result of cuts to newsroom budgets everywhere. Fewer staff, less and less institutional knowledge, less and less tendency to apply sound journalistic practices.More MBA jorno-ism.It's a clown show put on by clowns for clowns.

Politico is the subtler print version of Fox News. A misinformed public makes it easier for their conservative founders and funders to push through their agenda. Bashing and discrediting the media, despite being a part of it, is part of their effort to muddy the waters.

Am I the only person whose life is completely unaffected by "the state of the media?" Because it seems the media is equally full of people whining about the media. Why do people give a turd? Turn it off and do something productive. Some people act like they are holed up in a compound in Panama with soldiers blaring CNN over loudspeakers.

gambitsgirl:fireclown: LandOfChocolate: - Events happens- The media trips over themselves trying to "scoop" one another with new information. Most of this is proven false and then blamed on "fog of war"- 24-48 hours passes and some influential, but fringe, players in the media begin navel gazing about how the media got it wrong and how they should do better- They never do

I wonder if there would be a market for a news outlet that didn't report anything on news that was less than two hours old. This would give them a chance to vett stories better, and they wouldn't get caught by some of the dumb fliers that get shot down immediately. You would lose some immediacy, but I think that you could improve the quality of your news a lot with just an hour or two of delay.

/0.02

Yep. It was called the nightly news. It died in the WTC on 9/11. It's been replaced with fluff and hung out to dry. There were way less copy cats ass they mulled the decision of what information to release.

The public's need for immediate gratification has been lit and any attempt to go back will be met from all sides as censorship.

Le sigh. The good ole days where we wanted for cartoons and news. Now we have to personally filter through 24 hours of shiat and self-edit the information until we all give up and refuse any more in.

It died much sooner than that. Three things happened in relatively quick succession that propelled the 24 hour news network into the position it is in now. First was the Loma Prieta quake in 89. Then the Persian Gulf War just about finished it off..but the Rodney King riots and OJ chase/trial put the final nails in the coffin.

Add in Pyrodex available over the counter at Dick's Sporting Goods and Wal*Mart, and you've got everything you need to replicate the bombs used in Boston. Some assembly required.

Did you just search in all this now?Was it already bookmarked?Who's at your door?

To me this raises an interesting point. Do events like this make it that much harder for the FBI/DHS to identify potential bombers by screening internet searches/purchases? I imagine in the 24 hours after the Boston bombing, there was probably a huuuuuge spike in lots of noteworthy keywords related to bomb construction and use. It seems like it could create a screen for a potential bomber to use to find more equipment.

LawPD:BalugaJoe: At least they got rid of Solodad Obrien. All she did was play music for 2 hours.

I liked Solodad. Sure the format of her show sucked ass, who the fark cares what some idiot minor celebrity's opinion of the days new is but at least she had the stones to stand up to the people she was interviewing that came on the show to spew bullshiat.

That's precisely why she got the axe.

The management of nearly all media outlets is conservative. Even MSNBC. If their primetime liberal hosts ruffle too many feathers they get sent out to pasture like Phil Donahue, Keith Olbermann, Cenk Uygur, and Ed Schultz regardless of their ratings (Donahue and Olbermann drew the most viewers at the network when they got canned).

fireclown:We get what we deserve. You know why CNN airs celebrity nonsense? Because when they put up solidly researched segments on economics, nobody watches. When they put up a piece on whatever the hell Lindsey Lohan is doing these days, people watch.

We have met the enemy, and they are us.

But see, I watched those segments. I watched them religiously. I was a hard core news junkie, and CNN was my dealer. That started to change around the 2000 elections. And then Sept 11 2001 they completely lost any resemblance to actual journalism.

I'm still a news junkie, it's just now Fark and Twitter are my dealers.