Blue angel, are you deliberatley obtuse with me so I will lose my top so you can ban me?

I just made half a dozen points here>>

You don't need to set up a cool mafia to make the idea of power and money and danger cool too. You don't need Rambo to make the idea of a gun cool. These things just are because they answer a primative need. So where did that primative need stem from?

God? chance?

You can always take any problem with the world back to one of these. I blame both.

I blame the hippies from the sixties. where else did you find drugs and promiscuous sex come into such fashion? And crime too. They sponsored chaos, attacking "the man" lawlessness. They wanted to replace the idea of law with love, not realising that very few people love at all.

Then you have the shop stewards, stoking up worker revolts, making a lot of people bitter about their place in society. They promised the working man so much that they couldn't deliver that many of those workers dropped out and became criminals.

and last of all we have the conspiracy theorists, who prey on the weak minded, the bitter , the paranoid, the mentally ill. Listen to an Alex Jones program, and see what I mean. His callers are morons 75% of the time. They've been pushed into Jew hating, police bashing, mistrust of anyone.

Counter culture.

Can you see no points to debate? Then you must agree what I've said already.

Sorry to interrupt the titter-tatter but I have another example demonstrating how corruption appears to be endemic in the system.

It's been the media over the passed few years how vehicle accidents are deliberately being staged by crime gangs for the insurance payouts.

However it seems the dishonest drivers actually causing the accidents are the lowest paid among the ranks of the organisations responsible. Highest paid of the lot and taking the richest rewards by far are the legal firms responsible for the payouts and who finance the whole operations from square one.

If you can't trust the lawyers who can you trust?

However the legal profession always looked slightly dishonest, I mean look at some of the fees they charge.

What I'm saying is not very similar to the line taken by Alex Jones and, even if it were, are you suggesting that this dictates that rather than criticize, I should align myself with him?

I have never claimed that everything can be explained by a government/CIA orchestrated conspiracy.

Many people, conspiracy theorist's or not, believe that CERTAIN events in history which appear to have been orchestrated to benefit the "wealthy elitists" who control our WORLD and not society, are the result of a "shadow government" and a "rogue" CIA and, I am certain that in doing so, this doesn't imply that they are in agreement with everything that Alex Jones' believes.

My opinions are my own.

They have nothing to do with Alex Jones whether, in your eyes, they are similar or not.

You said the following BlueAngel:

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I have never claimed that everything can be explained by a government/CIA orchestrated conspiracy.

WOOOOWWWWW!!!!!!!!

I don't wish to sound at all unkind BlueAngel but are you absolutely certain you are not suffering from some psychological syndrome?

You just seem to deny what you previously had said as if you had never said it and don't have the slightest memory of it.