I hope so. I have just been intervened and I wanted to go back and say it is a bloody miracle! I originally came out at 30F which I felt a bit about and it was a bit big. But have just been to m&s and tried on everything with a 30 band until I found my size (dd.).

'Tis marvellous. No roaming band, all of the boob contained (the scooping, the scooping!), just proper support. I am converted. I may start performing interventions of my own.

Ooh, good thanks! I haven't had the miracle moment I'm afraid, as others have, and I'm feeling a bit disheartened...

Was originally wearing a 38C. Been intervened as a 34FF. Was vvvvvvv skeptical, but ordered several in a 34FF and several in a 36F. The 36F was too big but the 34 felt very tight. I went ahead and wore one of the 34FF (Panache Support, I'm still bf) and as I got used to it being tight, I loved it. Fairly pert boobies, but still quite bouncy which I noticed when running downstairs , so not as supported as I thoguht they would be. Look a million times better.

Today I went for a Curvy Kate underwired and man, it is uncomfortable. The wires re digging into my cleavage and my breathing feels restricted. I have to say it has got better as the day has gone one, but I'd hesitate to where it again. My questions are do Curvy Kates generally come up smaller? Are some people just not suited to wires? Are non-wired just as supportive as underwired? Or is this a size/fit issue?

Thank you so much in advance, I really want to get this right! It feels important for some reason!!

I think the 'miracle moment' can be elusive! I am forever trying new bras in diferent styles and brands.

Curvy Kate usually comes up large in the band and tight in the cup. Have you tested the band by putting it on back to front? If it feels ok like that but v tight round the right way, then it's probably a cup issue.

Most people can wear wires as long as they are in the right size and style/cut of bra. IMHO I don't think non-wired are anywhere as supportive especially for those of us who need that 'lift'!

I do think I need that lift - years of breast-feeding have taken their toll!

I have tried it back to front and it is tight both ways round. The cup gapes slightly when right way round, so don't think the cup is too small. I am surprised you say that CK is usually large in the band, it feels so much tighter than the Panache. So if the wires are digging in I should go up a band (36) which would make the cup an...???

So I guess it will always be a trial and error thing? That's kind of a shame. Thank goodness for brastop.com's free returns!

I think SF is right - you will not get that amazing uplift in wire-free unfortunately. I would say CK quite often run small in the cup - sometime by a couple of cups. It could be that the cup is too small and distorting the way the back feels.

Hey ladies, just letting you know, at the moment brastop have a sale on 5 styles that's are buyers' favourites and they're all £15. I would miss so many of their offers if I didn't have them flash their stuff on my facebook.

The wires are digging in in between my boobs, and also underneath, around where they start curving upwards. It is a CK Emily and it is beautiful! But it is the lace at the top that is very loose. What shape would be better to prevent this?

I really don't think the cup is too small, I mean it's baggy at the top!

Loving this. I was in M&S today - having a revelation - 34 DD/E instead of 38B - and was very tempted to heckle the fitter in the next door changing room.

I have a question though. Imagine where the strap attaches to the top of the bra cup. Then imagine 2-3 inches of cup running down from that place in front of the armpit. That bit of my skin is red and sore.

LetsFace - the rubbing in front of the arm is quite common when you first change bra size. It can be that you need a bra which is cut lower under the arm but it's also quite likely that you need a bit of time to get used to it. The edges of your too small cups will have been in a different place so it's those bits of skin that will have been used to it. It gets better

Lookout - I could never get the Emily to work for me. Even when I had the right size it just sort of sat on me.

Well, I was still in need of some 'tweaking' - went from a 38D to 36G - but still wasn't right, so went to Bravissimo last week. I tried lots of 34's as my 36's are new and on the tightest hook - the one the fitter recommend was the Andorra full cup - she was right in that it suited my shape PERFECTLY and gave me a great shape - and in a 34GG felt wonderful - I really like the feel of the 3 hooks and wider back. Had lkess back fat as well. Tried lotsincluding the Cleo Juna, and the Rebecca t shirt bra, but the 34's were too tight and the shape all wrong.

So I bought the Andorra, and ordered another one to be delivered. Wore it that pm, it was wonderful. Took the label off (yes, I know) wore it all day yesterday, and the PAIN under my arms from the wires - it has broken the skin on one side and made it bleed. I am so pissed off - it cost £29 and now I can't return it as no label and blood on it.

So, what to do? I am hoping that it is like when the heels rub on a pair of shoes, and once it heals it will be fine. I have to get it sorted before the other one arrives next week so I know whether or not to keep the other one on order.

I must have over £150 worth of bras in the drawer from the last couple of months, all of which are wrong, I can't keep making mistakes.

But the lady in Bravissimo was so patient with me - I told her I knew what size and which bra I wanted to try, then we talked for ages - I mentioned this thread but she hadn't heard of it. She must of thought she had a right one here, as I was so definite in what I wanted! We talked shape - I now know that the Alana won't suit me, neither does the Daisy Chain - of which I have just got one so another expensive mistake there. The only one that will suit me she says is the Andorra, but what if I can't wear it because of the high wires? I must have tried on 10/12 bras, and I could see that she was right about the Andorra, I loved it.

i am so fed up of 'bras turning bad'.

Sorry, have gone on a bit there, but am seriously considering going back to my old 38d's because at least they don't hurt.

Silverstar if it was fitted they will take it back even if it's been worn, trust me give the store a phone and explain. Hopefully marriednotdead will be along later as she is the guru on exact bra models but Panache as a rule are high under the arm.

No, drawing blood is definitely not right (hence suggesting taking it back!) - but I think it seems to be pretty common to get slight soreness/redness where you described with a big bra size change. Imagine you'd only ever worn baggy jeans two sizes too big and suddenly bought a pair of skinnies in the right size. They'd probably feel damn weird!

Ok, just called the store, and spoke to a lovely lady who confirmed that I could pop back in or send it back for a full refund, with a covering letter. Statistically you were right as usual, thank you.

She recommend I try the 'Darling heart' bra - which I am not to keen on to be honest, and the 'Satine' as they come up lower under the arm.

More returns - I am getting quite pally with the lady in my local post office!