Comments on: Fight gun violence with more gunshttp://blog.timesunion.com/opinion/fight-gun-violence-with-more-guns/23199/
A blog of opinions on local, state and national issuesSun, 02 Aug 2015 13:09:06 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.2By: ijustsimplyknowthetruthhttp://blog.timesunion.com/opinion/fight-gun-violence-with-more-guns/23199/comment-page-1/#comment-34660
Thu, 06 Dec 2012 02:14:02 +0000http://blog.timesunion.com/opinion/?p=23199#comment-34660It is far past time that people in this state put their knee-jerk reactionary dogmas to rest and actually THINK IT OUT before they go on backing uninformed and brainlessly stupid public policies.

FACT: The Southern states have relatively no gun regulation compared to that of New York, yet their violence rates (and particularly their gun -related violence rates) are far lower than ours.

FACT: People who live in Virginia and the Carolinas are not dumb – the truth is that these states are the brain drain which has been ailing New York. This is because New York taxes its residents for a number of bad reasons, not least of all because it over-regulates everything.

FACT: Guns prevent crimes committed by other people who carry guns. If this wasn’t the truth, then there would be no justification for police officers to carry guns.

FACT: Police aren’t on hand to prevent most crimes from actually happening, therefore it’s in the hands of responsible citizens to protect each other when situations arise.

The above actually happened in the town of Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, on Black Friday 2011. A woman was being robbed at gunpoint, and may have suffered worse, had not a woman nearby fired her own gun into the air. This scared off the would-be robber without anyone being hurt. This pistol-packing lady would have been jailed for her heroic actions had she done this in New York, but in South Carolina she was treated justly for the violence which she prevented.

FACT: Guns are dangerous – there, I said it! They are dangerous, and they are inexorable. If you dream of a world without guns in it, please go bury your head deeply somewhere so that we won’t have to hear you whine! Refer to the next fact below for the reason why they are here to stay, for as long as a liberal elitist can insult thinking people and assail their rights. I said guns are dangerous, but they are really, REALLY DANGEROUS in the hands of violent people with pretty good gun-handling skill against law-abiding citizens who never picked one up before (and cannot afford to hire, or forgot to pay their personal bodyguards)!

FACT: The gun has been invented, and there is no putting that genie back in its bottle! They will always be produced and distributed, because guns are a lucrative industry. They are on your streets, and nobody is going to change this because guns are what people want. The people have spoken, and if you don’t want to let them what they demand, then you need to go find your own island to rule your own way!

For those who live in New York and cannot afford to hire legally-armed bodyguards, who are not police officers, and do not have firearms traing (why would Albany County permit this if you aren’t a cop) you may have the slimmest chance of surviving a gun attack if you happen to be Jet Li (who actually never has been in a real firefight). Otherwise, maybe this scenario: Just as the would-be killer pulls the trigger, he slips on a banana peel and misses you. Because he happens to be near a tavern where an Albany cop happens to have been drinking, the cop hears the shot. On account of the bullet having accidentally passed through a tavern window, and right over the cop’s beer glass as he was reaching for it, he decides to do something about it! Just as the shooter is recovering, and continuing his pursuit of you, the cop takes him down – which he is able to do because he’s only on his third drink! If this sounds a bit far-fetched, then I wouldn’t count on surviving a gun attack unless you are equally armed (with competent firearms training, which is infinitely more physically achievable than the skills of Jet Li).

Get it through your heads, folks – the cops are not heroes, and they arn’t here to protect anyone! Their job is to clean up the mess, and to put somebody in jail for what has happened after the fact.

As for the danger to children who are allowed access to guns, this danger is at least 100% more preventable than the problem of New York thugs illegitimately getting their hands on the weapons which they use against unarmed New York residents. It is also 100% the responsibility of parents. While parents should be held responsible for causing unsafe conditions for children by leaving their guns accessible to children and unlocked, the state nannies should otherwise stay out of parenting issues.

Inowtruthismine, there are a number of social values which I tend to agree with you on, maybe more so because I live in New York. It is because of how I am taxed in New York that I believe that the government which taxes those who work just to pay their food bills and keep a roof over their heads is a government which owes it to them (to quote the US Constitution) “to provide for the public welfare” when they can no longer work. Health care under such conditions is truly a right, and there really should be a single-payer coverage system, so long as it will not significantly impact the quality of care and the incentive for developing improved treatment through research. But if you would tell somebody to trust the Albany police to protect them when some Blood’s guy is stalking them with a gun, then you are either extremely out of touch with reality, or you are a jaded liberal elitist who cares for nothing more than to rule other people, irregardless of the social consequences. I doubt that such a person would expect to be held themselves “equally” to any such law which they would impose on others!

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Wed, 05 Dec 2012 19:34:24 +0000http://blog.timesunion.com/opinion/?p=23199#comment-34647There must be something to the belief of liberals that it is the 2d Amendment and the fact that so many US citizens carry guns is responsible for our high crime rate relative to other western countries with more restrictive gun laws.

The US ranks far above countries like…..oh, wait, my bad….I didn’t have my glasses on. Actually, the rate of violent crime in the US (466 per 100,000) is far below those of “non-violent”, enlightened countries like Britain (2,034 per 100,000), Sweden (1,123), Canada (935), Finland (738), and France (504).

Is it possible that, rather than the “right to bear arms” leading to more violent crime, its affect is actually the opposite?

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Wed, 05 Dec 2012 02:20:40 +0000http://blog.timesunion.com/opinion/?p=23199#comment-34593We live in a country that protests our national interests with armies that carry guns and other weapons. If we did not have those armies, we would not be the land of the free. We pay for secret service and state police to carry guns to protect our policial representatives. In most cases this has worked well. I should have the right to carry to protect my family and myself. Most criminals are not going to use a gun against another person that may shoot back. The people that have been killed by guns in schools and other public places were not carrying guns, look what happened to them. I support concealed carry.
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Tue, 04 Dec 2012 22:16:29 +0000http://blog.timesunion.com/opinion/?p=23199#comment-34577#’s 1 and 2 above: every study indicates that in states that offer concealed carry, handgun violence drops dramatically. And in cities/states where there are restrictive handgun laws that keep guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens, murder rates by guns skyrocket. DC & NY are prime examples. Most stringent gun laws, but the most gun murders.
Ann- carrying concealed weapons helps. Very much so.
I Know Truth is Mine- your analogy is not only sophomoric and silly, it is patently based on a false premise.
]]>By: Jameshttp://blog.timesunion.com/opinion/fight-gun-violence-with-more-guns/23199/comment-page-1/#comment-34562
Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:28:45 +0000http://blog.timesunion.com/opinion/?p=23199#comment-34562there are lots of people out there that have guns. its the people that have illegal guns and are irresponsible with them that cause a problem. there is a reson that you are reqired to take courses in order to obtain a permit to own a handgun.
]]>By: Kevin the Sheepdoghttp://blog.timesunion.com/opinion/fight-gun-violence-with-more-guns/23199/comment-page-1/#comment-34561
Tue, 04 Dec 2012 16:58:49 +0000http://blog.timesunion.com/opinion/?p=23199#comment-34561Then may you can explain why private gun ownership continues to rise every year and violent crime continues to fall?? We are talking about legal gun ownership, not JoJO the crack dealer and his Hipoint .22. I see you are of the midst that it is better to be a victim then someone who fights back.
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Tue, 04 Dec 2012 15:32:12 +0000http://blog.timesunion.com/opinion/?p=23199#comment-34556Carrying concealed weapons, I do not believe, would help much. People are stupid. Too many people would get itchy fingers and pull the guns too often and cause too many problems.
Although there is Texas…
]]>By: iknowtruthisminehttp://blog.timesunion.com/opinion/fight-gun-violence-with-more-guns/23199/comment-page-1/#comment-34554
Tue, 04 Dec 2012 14:13:58 +0000http://blog.timesunion.com/opinion/?p=23199#comment-34554Fighting gun violence by dumping more guns into the mix, makes about as much sense as fighting AIDS with more indiscriminate unprotected sex. When is society going to stand up to such ridiculous crap and realize there are no real good logical sound reasons to have everyone walking around armed to the tooth with hand-guns, whose only function is to kill people?
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