Some people find the Progasm too aggressive. The larger dimensions of this device can produce more intensive stimulation with far less effort. When involuntary contractions kick in they can be overwhelming. For some it's simply over the top. If you're having success with the Helix...go with it and see where it takes you!

The models that you have are terrific and quite capable of delivering some mind-blowing Super O's. Not sure how long you've been at this, but make certain to give yourself adequate time to become accustomed to these devices and to this kind of stimulation.

For the future, the VICE is another alternative (if price is no object). The VICE offers the fullness of the PROGASM with a softer feel that is less aggressive. You can actually sit on it and grind!

Lemme see if I have this right...Super O without much pleasure??? Really. IMHO, Super O is the ultimate pleasure. If you mean that you get there without much preliminary pleasure, then OK, but don't tell me that you can have an actual Super O without pleasure...as I feel the two are synonymous, Super O and excruciating pleasure.

Brian is absolutely correct, of course. Unfortunately for me, I bought a Vice when they first came out, and the vibrator is far too aggressive for me. As a consequence, I don't use it much. Brian, is there any recourse for a new vibe unit for the Vice? The original vibrator is almost unuseable, and I get more vib pleasure from a competitors product.

I believe that there have been several different versions of the VICE's vibrator since it was originally introduced. At this point HIH is offering the latest version, the Muse as an upgrade. I doubt there is any recourse, i.e trade-in potential on the old vibrator, but it never hurts ask. Give customer service a call and check it out. Perhaps there might be a discount on the new unit.