Good god, if the NFL doesn't finally bring back the regular refs after this then the NFL's even more pig-headed, arrogant and stupid than I already think it is. At some point even Czar Goodell has to acknowlege his product is becoming a national joke now and it doesn't have to be that way.

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When it happened live, I thought it was simultaneous possession. If both players get the ball at the same time, there's no wrestling match for it or anything like that, it just goes to the passing team. On replay though, there was an obvious double-clutch by Tate while Jennings held the ball with both hands all the way. So it should have been ruled defensive possession, not simultaneous. I thought I heard Tirico say that they cannot review for possession on the catch, so if that were true, then that would explain why they couldn't overturn the call on the field.

What I really thought was that the offensive pass interference should have been called there. In officiating, there are always times when you generally don't call the foul. But when a foul is committed flagrantly and egregiously, it should be called no matter what the situation is.

When it happened live, I thought it was simultaneous possession. If both players get the ball at the same time, there's no wrestling match for it or anything like that, it just goes to the passing team. On replay though, there was an obvious double-clutch by Tate while Jennings held the ball with both hands all the way. So it should have been ruled defensive possession, not simultaneous. I thought I heard Tirico say that they cannot review for possession on the catch, so if that were true, then that would explain why they couldn't overturn the call on the field.

What I really thought was that the offensive pass interference should have been called there. In officiating, there are always times when you generally don't call the foul. But when a foul is committed flagrantly and egregiously, it should be called no matter what the situation is.

They should have called the offensive pass interference, but maybe they just didn't see it live, sometimes these things happen. They probably noticed it on the replay but they're not allowed to call it then. I didn't watch the game because I was at work but if they can't review for possession on the catch then that is the main reason for the butchered call and the media really needs to talk about that more than just bashing the refs. Of course the refs missed the call initally, but that is why they have video review in the first place. If they're allowed to look at the replay and see that they got it wrong, but then are only able to rule it a complete pass or incomplete pass and not an interception, well then that's not the refs' fault, it's the stupid rule's fault.

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You have to feel bad for these refs, I mean they are doing the best they can but they were thrown in a terrible positon, and this sort of play just HAD to happen along with the controversial fg sunday night...craziness.

Sadly, it was only a matter of time. This ship is now springing leaks everywhere and sinking that much faster.

Agree on Goodell...arrogant fvck. This season is officially a joke now. The integrity is compromised.

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I didn't watch the game because I was at work but if they can't review for possession on the catch then that is the main reason for the butchered call and the media really needs to talk about that more than just bashing the refs.

They ruled simultaneous possession but that IS reviewable when in the end zone, according to Peter King:

Simultaneous possession between the goal lines cannot be reviewed. Simultaneous possession in the end zone can be reviewed. That's an important distinction that many in the media have not made since Elliott went under the hood.

After replay review it should've been clear, as it was to anyone who watched the replays, this was NOT simultaneous possession and thus NOT a touchdown.

The offensive pass interference was also a badly missed call; sometimes officials let some stuff go on a Hail Mary play like that but that push-off was egregious.

Edited by nmigliore, 25 September 2012 - 11:34 AM.

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They ruled simultaneous possession but that IS reviewable when in the end zone, according to Peter King:

I just heard this confirmed too. That raises a big red flag as to why this call wasn't overturned (what might have been foggy or confusing in real time was pretty obvious on the replays). But the replay officials are not locked out and are not replacements; they're the regular replay guys. So what happened there, I have no idea.

The offensive pass interference was also a badly missed call; sometimes officials let some stuff go on a Hail Mary play like that but that push-off was egregious.

Definitely. They don't want to call things as tight on those plays because there would probably be fouls by both teams several times, resulting in several replays of the down. You don't want to have teams throw up these hail mary's and get a first down on the 1 yard line out of it if there's any question about the contact. But when it's obvious and egregious, as this was, it must be called. I think the NFL has even admitted that that part of the call was bad.

how was that a catch? The green bay defender had the ball clutched to his chest, the seattle guy maybe had an arm around it?

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