What kind of hawks are these?

by Ellen
(Los Angeles CA)

This is the first hawk

this is the second hawk

this is another view of the second

There were two of them, perched on the same branch so thinking an adult and a juvenile or a male and a female. They're pretty big though I don't think as big as red-tailed hawks, but bigger than crows. They soar when they fly and are definitely not falcons, more like buteos. Also they are quite vocal.