No, it's not your youth. It's just 'cause you're a guy. My first thread ever here was a (joke) porn thread. I just wanted to see how many reactions I got. I think it was a few pages worth. You ARE just another one of us. Don't even try to get over it.

Always call the place you live a house. When you're old, everyone else will call it a home.

Personally, I'd prefer to drill through the joist and use a threaded ring setup with a washer/nut on the other side.

This is what I did when I put up rings in my daughter's room since I could get to the joists in the attic. I didn't want to drill into the ceiling joists in case I really messed up with the drilling and compromised the structural integrity of the joist, so I used joist hangers to attach some cross-members between the joists and then drilled into those. This had the added benefit of distributing the load across two joists.

That's nothing. My folks bought a farm house in the 70s and renovated it. One of the first things my dad did was put an 8" I beam across the basement because the previous owners had cut chunks out of a lot of joists to run additional heating ducts. He had no idea why the house did not fold in on itself.

Fred

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That is scary. I am always amazed at what some people can get away with. I know if I were ever to do something like that (which I never would anyway), the house would collapse on me. I guess it works for them because ignorance is bliss?

Upon examining the joists where I tore out the ceiling drywall in the floor I'm working on I've discovered where someone had notched out 3 joists in order to install a plastic hose leading away from a bathroom ceiling fan. The funny part is, the hose is only about 3 feet long and exits into a hole that leads to the underside of the bath tub in the floor above. Stupid! Stupid! Stupid!

I'll probably add another joist at this location. It's hard to say how long it's been this way. This house is 60 years old. I'm almost afraid to remove more drywall. Don't know what I'll find.

Owners aside, if you can tolerate how he heaps praise upon himself, you guys oughta watch Holmes on Homes on the HGTV network. The things that some "contractors" (and I use the term loosely) do to houses in the guise of "improvement" is UNBELIEVABLE.