Quote cdhg: After reading some information about Canadian episode in one of the threads, hopefully Adam doesn't get to the point where he trusts no one and either has not fight to win back Chelsea or would want to be back with her. It was encouraging that the fortune teller told Chelsea about Adam's feelings. I am not into fortune tellers, but maybe for the show Adam needs to visit and learn why Chelsea is afraid to tell him the truth.

I knew MM mentioned about Adam realizing the one constant in his life was himself and was going on a journey or self perahps being that "army of one" and putting up emotional walls. We have been seeing that in these episodes. His approach right now seems so focused on the truth about the baby first and then on Chelsea, that he is not taking the right approaches to get to the truth. Adam either needs to go hard after Chelsea with his more tender and loving side or just get his pride out of the way and start being more cordial with Chelsea. She has come closer to revealing the truth when he has shown himself more vulnerable or in the case of the coma, completely vulnerable. I thought there was a chance he might be pleased that she told him in the coma, providing he remembers the rest of the coma scene.

Hopefully, he and Chelsea can build back a relationship and some trust after this plays out. It may take her saving his life in some dramatic scene while revealing the truth to smooth things over. His life being on the line again, might be what it takes to convince her to tell him the truth, if he does not find out in another way first.

He may just give up. However, all along it's been about the baby and him trying to find out eventually, would the writers do a turnaround on this who story. Really does not make for good drama, IMO, they are always advertising the drama on Y&R. for him to forget Chelsea and the baby seems counter productive to the whole baby story.

I would not say giving up on the finding the truth, but perhaps utilizing better methods of getting to it and get his pride out of the way. It is interesting how he has owned up to his fault for the marriage falling apart, even most recently in an early May episode at OTB with Chelsea. He has done that previously with her too. It sounds like he may want her to take some responsibility too.

He definitely will not forget about Chelsea and the baby, although he may numb the pain with Scotch, work, and women.

This may be far fetched, but I wonder if part of his plan for getting Newman back private would be a way to truly show his love for Victor and then turn around and exit showing he love for Chelsea. I figure Adam wants both the cake and punch with Newman, his Queen Chelsea and his Prince or Princess child.

Still, if he can get NE back fully into the Newman family and then walk away, perhaps he could get Chelsea back if it not too late.

I hope Chelsea does not continue to go to far either. She just isn't thinking about how bad she is hurting Adam and she may have to truly come to grips with that and overcome her fears to help him when he needs it.

Part of me wonders if Chelsea is supposed to be nuNikki and Dylan the nuJack, then Chelsea might instinctively drop everything (including Dylan) to protect Adam (Victor 2.0) when he gets in over his head on this privatization of Newman. Something about that deal has disaster written all over it. Just a thought.

Great points. I think back to Nikki leaving Jack to try and find Victor last year during the most recent Victor is missing/dead storyline. Maybe we will have an Adam is missing/dead one here.

I can see Dylan as a Jack in this storyline although Dylan is the physically stronger one here unlike the Victor/Jack feud.

I have wondered if the writers are looking at a retooled more dynamic Chadam this time around. I know we will only see glimpses of the first Chadam in a reunite, should that occur. Still, Chadam should be Chadam and Niktor should be Niktor. Some similarities are okay, but it does not need to be too much of a repeat of Niktor. Adam has certain qualities that make him more appealing vs. his father as Chelsea does vs. Nikki.

Chelsea is not the pushover to Adam as Nikki is to Victor. Nikki will take the fight to Victor at times, but not the way Chelsea will with Adam.

Quote cdhg: After reading some information about Canadian episode in one of the threads, hopefully Adam doesn't get to the point where he trusts no one and either has not fight to win back Chelsea or would want to be back with her. It was encouraging that the fortune teller told Chelsea about Adam's feelings. I am not into fortune tellers, but maybe for the show Adam needs to visit and learn why Chelsea is afraid to tell him the truth.

I knew MM mentioned about Adam realizing the one constant in his life was himself and was going on a journey or self perahps being that "army of one" and putting up emotional walls. We have been seeing that in these episodes. His approach right now seems so focused on the truth about the baby first and then on Chelsea, that he is not taking the right approaches to get to the truth. Adam either needs to go hard after Chelsea with his more tender and loving side or just get his pride out of the way and start being more cordial with Chelsea. She has come closer to revealing the truth when he has shown himself more vulnerable or in the case of the coma, completely vulnerable. I thought there was a chance he might be pleased that she told him in the coma, providing he remembers the rest of the coma scene.

Hopefully, he and Chelsea can build back a relationship and some trust after this plays out. to smooth things over.cccc His life being on the line again, might be what it takes to convince her to tell him the truth, if he does not find out in another way first.

He may just give up. However, all along it's been about the baby and him trying to find out eventually, would the writers do a turnaround on this who story. Really does not make for good drama, IMO, they are always advertising the drama on Y&R. for him to forget Chelsea and the baby seems counter productive to the whole baby story.

I would not say giving up on the finding the truth, but perhaps utilizing better methods of getting to it and get his pride out of the way. It is interesting how he has owned up to his fault for the marriage falling apart, even most recently in an early May episode at OTB with Chelsea. He has done that previously with her too. It sounds like he may want her to take some responsibility too.

He definitely will not forget about Chelsea and the baby, although he may numb the pain with Scotch, work, and women.

This may be far fetched, but I wonder if part of his plan for getting Newman back private would be a way to truly show his love for Victor and then turn around and exit showing he love for Chelsea. I figure Adam wants both the cake and punch with Newman, his Queen Chelsea and his Prince or Princess child.

Still, if he can get NE back fully into the Newman family and then walk away, perhaps he could get Chelsea back if it not too late.

I hope Chelsea does not continue to go to far either. She just isn't thinking about how bad she is hurting Adam and she may have to truly come to grips with that and overcome her fears to help him when he needs it.

The old Chelsea would have done anything to help Adam, save Adam when he needs it. the day she quit the marriage Adam at the office was begging Sharon to save him....he had also said to Chelsea I can't be without you, Chelsea replied you will be just fine...She is really hurting him and at this point I'm not liking it anymore. It may take her saving his life in some dramatic scene while revealing the truth. I love this idea wish the writers knew about it. At this point he believes she doesn't LOVE him anymore. Their love for each other has to be played out on screen leaving no doubt to the viewer about CHADAM.

I am not remembering the exact scene here, but I may have to go back and view it. I liked in the New Years episode, where he said he was lost without her and she replied "Get a GPS."

She is going to have to realize the extent of damage and hurt he is going through and right now her fears and pride are in the way. She know he is hurt over the situation, but due to the anger he has been showing, her fears outweigh her concerns where the baby is concerned, plus she has gotten so deep into the lie now and is starting to fall for Dylan and the fairy tale life and Prince Charming protector.

Quote cdhg: After reading some information about Canadian episode in one of the threads, hopefully Adam doesn't get to the point where he trusts no one and either has not fight to win back Chelsea or would want to be back with her. It was encouraging that the fortune teller told Chelsea about Adam's feelings. I am not into fortune tellers, but maybe for the show Adam needs to visit and learn why Chelsea is afraid to tell him the truth.

I knew MM mentioned about Adam realizing the one constant in his life was himself and was going on a journey or self perahps being that "army of one" and putting up emotional walls. We have been seeing that in these episodes. His approach right now seems so focused on the truth about the baby first and then on Chelsea, that he is not taking the right approaches to get to the truth. Adam either needs to go hard after Chelsea with his more tender and loving side or just get his pride out of the way and start being more cordial with Chelsea. She has come closer to revealing the truth when he has shown himself more vulnerable or in the case of the coma, completely vulnerable. I thought there was a chance he might be pleased that she told him in the coma, providing he remembers the rest of the coma scene.

Hopefully, he and Chelsea can build back a relationship and some trust after this plays out. to smooth things over.cccc His life being on the line again, might be what it takes to convince her to tell him the truth, if he does not find out in another way first.

He may just give up. However, all along it's been about the baby and him trying to find out eventually, would the writers do a turnaround on this who story. Really does not make for good drama, IMO, they are always advertising the drama on Y&R. for him to forget Chelsea and the baby seems counter productive to the whole baby story.

I would not say giving up on the finding the truth, but perhaps utilizing better methods of getting to it and get his pride out of the way. It is interesting how he has owned up to his fault for the marriage falling apart, even most recently in an early May episode at OTB with Chelsea. He has done that previously with her too. It sounds like he may want her to take some responsibility too.

He definitely will not forget about Chelsea and the baby, although he may numb the pain with Scotch, work, and women.

This may be far fetched, but I wonder if part of his plan for getting Newman back private would be a way to truly show his love for Victor and then turn around and exit showing he love for Chelsea. I figure Adam wants both the cake and punch with Newman, his Queen Chelsea and his Prince or Princess child.

Still, if he can get NE back fully into the Newman family and then walk away, perhaps he could get Chelsea back if it not too late.

I hope Chelsea does not continue to go to far either. She just isn't thinking about how bad she is hurting Adam and she may have to truly come to grips with that and overcome her fears to help him when he needs it.

The old Chelsea would have done anything to help Adam, save Adam when he needs it. the day she quit the marriage Adam at the office was begging Sharon to save him....he had also said to Chelsea I can't be without you, Chelsea replied you will be just fine...She is really hurting him and at this point I'm not liking it anymore. It may take her saving his life in some dramatic scene while revealing the truth. I love this idea wish the writers knew about it. At this point he believes she doesn't LOVE him anymore. Their love for each other has to be played out on screen leaving no doubt to the viewer about CHADAM.

I definitely like the idea of a dramatic scene with Chelsea being pregnant running to Adam's rescue to save his life and revealing the truth to him in that fashion. Perhaps some scenes of them together even being held hostage with him rubbing or talking to the baby through the stomach would be neat. He saved her life once, so it would be good to see it in reverse this time.

Even, if Dylan got his name on the birth certificate, I could deal with that for a while, if Adam and Chelsea were a united front doing whatever it took to get their baby back, should Dylan be fighting for custody.

I hear about how long this is playing out, but I know it is a drama. Chelsea getting Dylan the number 1 dad kit and things that are going on with both Adam and Chelsea seem out of character, or perhaps we are just seeing the worst of their characters. vs. the best of their characters when they were together before the miscarriage.

As much as I liked the check kiss from last week, that was both a warm and cold kiss at the same time base on the baby lie at hand.

Quote cdhg: After reading some information about Canadian episode in one of the threads, hopefully Adam doesn't get to the point where he trusts no one and either has not fight to win back Chelsea or would want to be back with her. It was encouraging that the fortune teller told Chelsea about Adam's feelings. I am not into fortune tellers, but maybe for the show Adam needs to visit and learn why Chelsea is afraid to tell him the truth.

I knew MM mentioned about Adam realizing the one constant in his life was himself and was going on a journey or self perahps being that "army of one" and putting up emotional walls. We have been seeing that in these episodes. His approach right now seems so focused on the truth about the baby first and then on Chelsea, that he is not taking the right approaches to get to the truth. Adam either needs to go hard after Chelsea with his more tender and loving side or just get his pride out of the way and start being more cordial with Chelsea. She has come closer to revealing the truth when he has shown himself more vulnerable or in the case of the coma, completely vulnerable. I thought there was a chance he might be pleased that she told him in the coma, providing he remembers the rest of the coma scene.

Hopefully, he and Chelsea can build back a relationship and some trust after this plays out. It may take her saving his life in some dramatic scene while revealing the truth to smooth things over. His life being on the line again, might be what it takes to convince her to tell him the truth, if he does not find out in another way first.

He may just give up. However, all along it's been about the baby and him trying to find out eventually, would the writers do a turnaround on this who story. Really does not make for good drama, IMO, they are always advertising the drama on Y&R. for him to forget Chelsea and the baby seems counter productive to the whole baby story.

I would not say giving up on the finding the truth, but perhaps utilizing better methods of getting to it and get his pride out of the way. It is interesting how he has owned up to his fault for the marriage falling apart, even most recently in an early May episode at OTB with Chelsea. He has done that previously with her too. It sounds like he may want her to take some responsibility too.

He definitely will not forget about Chelsea and the baby, although he may numb the pain with Scotch, work, and women.

This may be far fetched, but I wonder if part of his plan for getting Newman back private would be a way to truly show his love for Victor and then turn around and exit showing he love for Chelsea. I figure Adam wants both the cake and punch with Newman, his Queen Chelsea and his Prince or Princess child.

Still, if he can get NE back fully into the Newman family and then walk away, perhaps he could get Chelsea back if it not too late.

I hope Chelsea does not continue to go to far either. She just isn't thinking about how bad she is hurting Adam and she may have to truly come to grips with that and overcome her fears to help him when he needs it.

Part of me wonders if Chelsea is supposed to be nuNikki and Dylan the nuJack, then Chelsea might instinctively drop everything (including Dylan) to protect Adam (Victor 2.0) when he gets in over his head on this privatization of Newman. Something about that deal has disaster written all over it. Just a thought.

Great points. I think back to Nikki leaving Jack to try and find Victor last year during the most recent Victor is missing/dead storyline. Maybe we will have an Adam is missing/dead one here.

I can see Dylan as a Jack in this storyline although Dylan is the physically stronger one here unlike the Victor/Jack feud.

I have wondered if the writers are looking at a retooled more dynamic Chadam this time around. I know we will only see glimpses of the first Chadam in a reunite, should that occur. Still, Chadam should be Chadam and Niktor should be Niktor. Some similarities are okay, but it does not need to be too much of a repeat of Niktor. Adam has certain qualities that make him more appealing vs. his father as Chelsea does vs. Nikki.

Chelsea is not the pushover to Adam as Nikki is to Victor. Nikki will take the fight to Victor at times, but not the way Chelsea will with Adam.

I really hope it doesnt turn out like Jack/Nikki/Victor. That was one thing I couldn't stand about Nikki was she always dropped Jack like he wasn't important for Victor. Right now Chelsea and Dylan aren't together officially so there is still that opening for Adam if he can hurry and get his act together. Ditching Dylan like that would make her look even worse, just one more thing on top of this baby lie.

Are Chadam the nu Niktor? I like Niktor but there are a lot of things about them that leave a bad taste. I think Chadam have qualities of Niktor but I choose to believe that they are a much improved version.

I really enjoyed the episode today. It really drove home to Adam that he deserted his family when he was needed. The three guys were talking about being fathers and he was clearly left out. I'm hoping all this amounts to him getting his act together and going full speed ahead in getting Chelsea back!

Quote 3WishGenie: I really enjoyed the episode today. It really drove home to Adam that he deserted his family when he was needed. The three guys were talking about being fathers and he was clearly left out. I'm hoping all this amounts to him getting his act together and going full speed ahead in getting Chelsea back!

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