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Maybe fifty or sixty years ago. The kind of soviet style dictate in the media release form is nothing unexpected today.

Today, firmly in the grip of the Progressives, Universities are Stalinist gulags where speech codes and the dictates of feminists multiculturalists racists and Marxists (all the same thing really) overrule freedom and liberty every time.

Our universities are an utter disgrace, and its time we cleared the Progressives from these institutions and returned them to their original status as centers for open learning and the advancement of ideas that uphold liberty rather than slavery.

I have found UC to be a very free speech related university, the UCSA promotes a neutral attitude to the VSA Bill and the vast variety of political and philosophical debate never gets violent. the place isn’t run by far left or right thinkers such as the VUW student Union and I’ve never been pressured in any means for ideologies such as climate change, Global Warming or Capitalism except for the one random ranter in my Politics lecture

Universities do have some far thinking bad eggs but generally they are great places,
As for the OUSA, frankly if I was leading one of the News stations I’d have a team there anyway, screw the censorship contract just hide in the bushes and take even more amusing shots, if the OUSA thinks its O week isn’t going to be news then they are slightly mental

Both sides of this argument have reasonable points, and both are trying to ignore their worst excesses.

I can remember not long ago seeing “news” reports with TV crews in empty streets as good as inviting attention seekers and wreckers to come and give them some footage, even suggesting what could be done. Sure enough, the neanderthals of the city and of the province flocked in to oblige. TV coverage was as responsible as anything else for the worst excesses.

I presume TV stations would be happy to have unlimited outside coverage of their private Christmas parties etc.

Compulsory union membership has no place in a free society. The answer is obvious. Let the so called student unions tout for members by offering something useful in return for their subscriptions otherwise let them die. Pass the law Neville.

Apart from being immoral, this tactic by OUSA is just so incredibly stupid. How did they think this wouldn’t get out ? They’ve handed the media a much better and easier story about censorship than the one they’re trying to censor. And also since they’ve given the media an annoyingly difficult set of conditions for consent to use the footage, of course they’re not going to bother with the footage and just run the censorship story instead. DUH

The whole point of this story is that here are our youth, in universities that are regarded as the pride of western civilization, apparently being taught ideas that are abhorrent to any civilised society. Where they should be being educated in matters that allow them to think as free and open citizens of the free world, they are clearly being taught to think like the monsters of the soviet era or throwbacks like Chavez. Something is seriously dysfunctional in universities.

Most of his posts are just pale and insipid expressions of support for the Progressive status quo. As useful as tits on a bull.

The other issue here is the obvious unwillingness of the students to face up to their own responsibilities. The solution to not being shown on televison to be a gang of self indulgent dropkicks without any personal behaviour or moral limits is not to behave that way in public. Instead they take the victim track….. “Oooh we’re being unfairly portrayed by the media”.

Schmucks. Too many dumbfucks get into university these days, and the lecturers aren’t much better.

Some lecturers tend to flit between professions like “smarmy Maharey” who being a socialist tosser was of course a supporter of media censorship.

‘In April 2007, Maharey came under criticism for saying ‘fuck you’ in parliamentary question time on April 4.[7] He apologised shortly afterwards. The outburst was elicited when Maharey was questioned by Jonathan Coleman about the appropriateness of his actions as broadcasting minister threatening to complain to the Radio New Zealand board when he was displeased by a host Sean Plunket referring to a comment Maharey had made about the need for the Cambridge exam in Botswana as ‘racist.’ [8]’

University (Auckland) was bad enough back in the early 80s in this regard.
I’m just glad I did an Engineering Degree and didn’t have to put up with this sort of crap.

And as Johnboy (3:38 pm) alluded:
If you’re a teacher and did some BS degree like a BA and now ‘teach’ in the Indoctrination … I mean, Education System it’s little wonder that the next generation are largely stuffed before they even leave the starting blocks.

These ‘progressive’ thinkers need to be routed out of the education system before society is beyond any hope of recovery.
I think many of us fear that the horse has already long since bolted, and to reverse the damage will require some kind of miracle. But we live in hope.

The other issue here is the obvious unwillingness of the students to face up to their own responsibilities. The solution to not being shown on televison to be a gang of self indulgent dropkicks without any personal behaviour or moral limits is not to behave that way in public. Instead they take the victim track….. “Oooh we’re being unfairly portrayed by the media”.

Personal Responsibility, … Good Behaviour, … Moral Limits – so last millenium, Red, you really do need to get up to date.

Comment like yours might bruise their (students’) fragile egos and self esteem – you need to go and repent to auntie Helun.

Red what university are you currently at because I haven’t seen you round Massey recently so I’m assuming your detailed knowledge comes all the time you spend at victoria or auckland right? Right?

Here’s a little gem for you digest. Most students come to university to study and get a degree. Those that don’t and are here to party only last a few weeks before we don’t see them again and they fail out.

Most students value their own ideas and tutors who try to indoctrinate them find that few people sign up for the papers they take and they struggle to keep their jobs. Guess which end of the poltical sprectrum that group belongs to.

The last course papers I received from Waikato University were so sick in their rank racist and political allegiances and promotion of political correctness I withdrew from the course. Don’t talk to me about fucking reality and perception rube.

David Farrar, Redbirther, Kris K, and cohorts. Have you seen the censorship aroung the Rugby World Cup? Why are you not protesting at this vicious attack on freedom, the right to go about lawful business unmolested and the interference of the state in who can or cannot sell what?

David Farrar, Redbirther, Kris K, and cohorts. Have you seen the censorship aroung the Rugby World Cup? Why are you not protesting at this vicious attack on freedom, the right to go about lawful business unmolested and the interference of the state in who can or cannot sell what?

Is that a bit like the fact that you’re not able to sell blue flags at the Labour Party AGM?

It also affects the clothes people can wear, the drinks they can have. The Commerce Commission should be permitted to put a stop to this corporate dictatorship. No corporation should ever be permitted to control the use of public spaces and others private property / businesses.

Haha Kris, Red was attacking all and sundry with slurs and deliberate lies long before I came here. He tries to discredit anyone he disagrees with, he thinks US media tactics work on NZ blogs. But you may not understand, you seem to be his friend.

The rugby world cup is different , it is a commercial enterprise so should have the freedom to restrict anything that could be competitive.

No Kris K, its not. Are blue flags banned from sale at the Labour Party AGM? Is the Labour PArty AGM a private event, or a public event? Is it held in private space or public space? Does the Labour Party AGM prevent the National Party holding their AGM in a building down the street?

Pete, absolutely not. One business should not be able to control the market unless it has earned that right through it. Regulation is not the damn answer, and the costs of this event is being borne by the taxpayer. The more business that get money spent in them, the wider the benefits.

Sorry Kris, I am too wound up. Maybe you should pray for me. I need a new leg to replace the one lost in a car accident 4 years ago, just below knee. Do you think god could grow it back if we both pray hard enough?

Yarns. I know a lot of people around here are against compulsory student membership, and this is a dog whistle story to get this revved up.

I graduated Otago last year. Of course students love to get on the piss, and this is it’s worst during O-Week because of the 2 factors of; you are there with $1000-5000 of holiday money saved, and there is no class during the week. What else are you going to do?

I suspect what OUSA want is to stop the media misrepresenting O-Week. Sure, they’ll show 4 students in a 90 second story vomiting, coma-ing out or doing stupid shit…but they won’t balance the story with the vastly significant amount that will behave themselves.

It has become a self-perpetuating cycle, especially since the first Undie-500 ‘riot’ in 2006. Form 7 students see the odd person behaving like a fuckwit on the news and think this is representative of all Otago student. So the next year there is an influx of there fuckwits. Etc etc. Censorship? Jesus mate.

Kieran, I think you will find the first really big riot was back in 1990. That was a ripper although some of the recent ones have been up there as well.

As you say students love to get on the piss but does that make it a good thing? Anyway as you said fuckwit behaviour attracts more fuckwits. However if you choose to be a fuckwit then ultimately one’s choices in life are going to be limited.

I think most students of moderate intelligence will end up realising that sooner or later.

I’m not sure what the issue is here. If they are holding the orientation events on public property, the media don’t need a pass. If they’re on University property then then they can make whatever rules they please and there no issue with free speech or censorship. The fact that the University is ultimately owned by taxpayers doesn’t make it public property in the sense that anyone who wants to can show up and start filming regardless of the wishes of the organisers of the event. Try doing that at Westpac Stadium and see how far you get.

I really doubt that students wish to be broadcast drunk on national news and if I was running an orientation event I would just have it for students only and not admit the media at all.

During student riots and mass events at Otago I always found students wanting very much to be seen on TV, showing off their excellent couch burning skills and general drunken shenanigans. OUSA forget that they don’t speak on behalf of students. If a student wishes to object then they can easily do this themselves.

This is just OUSA trying hard to legitimise themselves as “standing up for students rights” during a year when VSM is coming closer. If OUSA say they are protecting students from the evil media, they can easily say this “protection” would be gone under VSM. Blah blah blah. Dave Goosselink is right, OUSA are emulating Dear Leader and considering how many of them are Labour it isn’t a surprise whatsoever!