Hello darkness, my old friend,
Ive come to talk with you again,
Because a vision softly creeping,
Left its seeds while I was sleeping,
And the vision that was planted in my brain
Still remains
Within the sound of silence.

I'm all for cycling to be promoted as 'cool' and exciting, but this just makes cyclists look like selfish, inconsiderate people.

FWIW; the First STW London Pootle rode in similar places, yet we all acted with consideration for others. Slowed down/walked where necessary, din't tear about like nutters, or endanger anyone else. And we still had loads of fun. Needs to b a bit more of a sense of responsibility, in some people.

yet we all acted with consideration for others. Slowed down/walked where necessary, din't tear about like nutters, or endanger anyone else

I'd be interested to know if absolutely every pedestrian you encountered on your London ride would concur - in my experience (being a Londoner and having done many similar sorts of rides), while we may ride in a safe way that we know is fully under control, pedestrians' perception is often that we don't and that we're coming too close/going too fast near them. In fact, I'll bet that plenty would see no difference between your riding and that in the Charge video.

So, if even one pedestrian considered that you weren't considerate/safe/etc, does that also make you selfish, inconsiderate people or is your perception the only one that decides right and wrong (rong!)?

We didn't willfully endanger the safety of any other people. In the Charge vid, the rider tears about on that stupid bike, and in one bit, nearly goes into a bloke just walking along.

S'not abut 'riding on the pavement' or stuff like that- we rode the rong way up a few one-way streets. No-one about, no harm done. We acted responsibly. We gace other people space, slowed down when neccessary, and I even used my bell! On 'shared use' paths, we had to give way to people on foot.

Don't be going splitting hairs; you know what I'm on about. Anyone who regularly rides in London (or any city, I spose) knows what I'm on about.There's always some idiots that give the rest of us a bad name.

I think you're missing the point that the average 'joe public' wouldnt be looking on the Charge bikes website, and although its not setting a good example for the youth, they will still go out and do it anyway after seeing someone else do it on pinkbike/another website/video.

How about, instead of wasting everyone's time bemoaning "dangerous" cyclists, you concentrate on the facts? How many people are killed or injured by fashion victims cycling on the pavement each year, versus numbers of people run over/dying from heart disease? I'm reliably informed that most "fixie" riders in London have freewheels or push their bikes everywhere anyway.

"Gary, do you have any photos from our little pub rides about London too? "

i only went to the pub bit once jim and wasn't there to witness any 'street' action or ride on a pavement.

rudeboy. i haven't looked at the vid but at the end of the day you (or your co-riders) were happy to ride on the pavement for fun, i'm not interested in an argument of it being right or wrong (i don't ride on the pavement myself) but it's against the law and if plod had seen you then you would get fined. i can't believe that somebody like yourself would condone law breaking in a public place especially being visible to young and impressionable people.

Technically, it's against the law, but Home Office advice to police given at the time fixed penalty notices were introduced (which was repeated when PCSOs were allowed to issue fixed penalty notices) is to only issue tickets if the cycling is being done irresponsibly and recognised that there were times when a cyclist would perceive the pavement as being the safer option.

So to sum up: one rider rides on the pavement in a manner that is deifnitely illegal, and could be perceived to be irresponsible and antisocial. Nobody gets hurt, nobody dies. It's not clear whether anyone gets annoyed, entertained or homicidal as a result of such action, not counting this thread of course. The results are broadcast via the internet.

A group of other riders ride on the pavement in a manner that is definitely illegal, and could be perceived to be irresponsible and antisocial. Nobody gets hurt, nobody dies. Some people are mildly annoyed. Pictures of this are distributed via the internet.

i thought the point was about illegal riding on the pavement and how it was o.k for you to do it because your judgment of what is acceptable is above the law. and the reckless actions of others are to be condemned especially if they are practiced under the auspices of the 'fixie' trend by people who are evidently not of the same moral fiber as yourself?