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I'm not really sure what to think. IMO they weren't BPA but I like the picks this year as players. I have to question some of those off the wall picks, just like I did Goligoski at the time. Not so much as players but couldn't they be gotten later?

No, we haven't. Ever since hes left we've needed a big physical defender, not another puck mover. We already have an Alex who's similar offensively to our old Alex.

When are ya'll going to realize our d corps started going down hill the year we traded for Leopold and the org became obsessed with possession dmen. We've become nothing but softer and weaker to play against since then, and we've had 3 embarrassing playoff exits since. The most recent of which our d was dismantled in. Its almost like bylsma is getting his way with the dman over sheros original "tough to play against" model.

And thats my main beef. When Shero first came I loved him because his whole montra was being difficult to play against physically. Guys like gill and McKee were what he wanted to add. Now its guys like leopold, martin, and yandle, apparently.

WE need to get back to the old model. Look no further than all the most recent cup champs going back to Anaheim before us. Ana, Det, us, chi, bos, and la all were physically dominant in their clinching series, and throughout most of their post season runs. That's absolutely no coincidence.

And I just thought of this, but part of our playoff problem could have to do with the fact that as playoff games get tighter and have more mucked up with clutching n grabbing it neutralizes the 2way ability of a lot of dmen who aren't strong enough to fight through the checks.

I'm not really sure what to think. IMO they weren't BPA but I like the picks this year as players. I have to question some of those off the wall picks, just like I did Goligoski at the time. Not so much as players but couldn't they be gotten later?

Neither. Just like the majority of everyone here. That doesn't mean I can't read scouting reports and form an opinion. Although I'm sure you scouted all these guys and would have picked Pouliot as well, right?

Jesus, it's sacrilege around here to question Shero's drafting, even though he hasn't drafted overly well since picking Staal.

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Originally Posted by Mr. T

Who was better and why?

Forsberg and Grigorenko will both be better players than Pouliot, and would benefit the Pens much more as well.

Who the **** reads scouting reports, then says ******** **** like this? Honestly?

How about when you finally you know, see DP play, you admit you are a whiner and will actually stop using silly scouting rankings to tell you who will be a better pro?

The first time you see DP play you are going to feel like a total ass, bet that bro. Just like the paper scouts who whined about Morrow last year. He shut them right the **** up pretty fast.

Jesus, I get it, you drank the Shero kool-aid and will defend every pick he ever makes and that's awesome, but get off your high horse, bro. It must be nice being so much smarter and so much more informed on these guys than everyone else here, lol.

Just because I haven't scouted these players doesn't mean I can't form an opinion about them. I guess there should be a separate thread where the informed posters who actually watch all these prospects can talk, while all of us ignorant fans who read scouts and rankings can make wild speculations in another thread.

And just because Morrow had a great year doesn't automatically make every pick Shero makes a stud. That's just ignorance. Not to mention that Morrow was BPA (or close to it) so your comparison sucks. Pouliot was not BPA on anyone's list besides Shero and was a total reach at 8th overall. You can trust Shero all you want but untill Pouliot actually produced in the NHL, and proves that he's a better player than both Forsberg and Grigorenko I'm not going to be happy with the pick.

I was talking more Blueger and Sundqvist. Both totally out of left feild and taken pretty high. Blueger I saw once and he looks like a fine player, Krejci-ish, but was he even on the map as a 4th rounder. I guess SSM's is highly scouted so a lot of people knew about Blue.