Oh well, she could handle it. We would not call it too strong. We would just call it the wrong thing in this case.

Ayahuasca is helpful if a lot of things are caused by old injuries—what you would call ‘trauma’—

Yes.

—from many years ago. Even from a different generation, like inherited. This is where it can help.

Because you can see. You have an out-of-body experience, if you do it right. And you can see for yourself where the problems are. But it’s good for these problems that comes from other things. You call it, what—psych—

Psychological?

That come from the mind.

Yes.

Psychological problems can cause bodily harm, too.

Yes.

So for these issues, originating from a problem that comes from there, this would be the right herb. If it’s biological, mechanical and if it’s many small things that could lead to a major problem in the future, this won’t work.

Ayahuasca works through the brain.

I see.

It’s shifting—nowadays you might say—shifting the chemicals around.

Uhuh, changing the connections, the electricity?

Yes, the connections. And the chemistry. Electricity, my dear, would be physical.

Aah, don’t the chemicals create the electricity?

Rarely. There are other issues.

You have to look at a small particle level, like atomic. The electricity at that level has nothing to do with the chemistry. It’s physics. You call it physics.

Ah. The chemicals in the brain that we call neurotransmitters—

Yes.

— noradrenaline, serotonin and so on.

Yes.

People say that’s what constitutes thought, that thought is made from these chemicals.

Yeah, partly.

You would disagree?

Thoughts are partly made of experiences, as well. Experiences get stored in the brain, sometimes brought from different lifetimes.

Well, you always bring experiences from different lifetimes. But it doesn’t always show.

Can be a curse for some people. It’s not very easy to blend it out, block it out, smooth it out—that’s not possible. It’s there as it happens.

It’s like—hmm—if you think about animals—

—they can feel the vibes. And they might run in a direction they never did before. They actually don’t know. They feel.

If you would try to suppress it—there are some drugs around that could do that.

And, if you like to drink things that have gone off, you might be able to calm it down it a bit.

But that would calm everything else down as well.

You understand? You dampen feelings.

It would act on all levels.

She is a bit luckier than some, because it’s only bigger issues that she feels. So, it would not be worth it, to dampen all the feelings.

It would not be fair, my friend.

People handle it differently.

Some people go and sit in a dark corner and don’t come out.

Some people get angry.

And there are even people that start laughing and don’t know why. Sometimes in very inappropriate situations. It’s a way the body reacts, expressing things that are felt and can’t be explained.

It’s not going to hurt her?

[Confidently] We don’t think so.

Good.

People handle it differently. There are quite a few things that get handled with outbursts, different kinds of outbursts, by our friend.

It’s a much better way to deal with it, than going quiet and sitting in a corner. Because the energy of it all might just explode one day, in those people, and then no one will know where that came from.