It was the day after day rocket and mortar attacks by the terrorists hamas that caused a military responce to occur.

Yes, it is very sad that the Hamas attacks kill and injure civillians on both sides.

Simple logic, you attack someone, expect them to counter attack.

Hamas attacked day after day and were warned day after day what would happen.

They continued to attack and got what they wanted, a military responce to their attacks.

Funny i don't recall Hamas owning any F -16s.
How would you respond if you were caged in animal without any food? DESPERATE!
Sadly Hamas did feed the beast by its response, and now the Zionist can play the victim.

[edit on 27-12-2008 by Zapataman]

Exactly. The Palastine people are surrounded, caged in and have been so for decades and have made attempts to go to the table and simply ask for their
own nation and be left alone, refused each and ever time and continue to be caged in. You bet they are going to lash out at an oppressor and with
anything they can against high tech weaponry, most of which comes from guess who!!!!

Granted Palastine has done wrong also, but consider the apples to oranges here, they are naturally going to be more aggressive with their sticks and
stones when faced with the weaponry of much higher calibur.

amen, brother. the palestinians have carried quite a burden for far too long. mainstream media ignores their plight and refuses to report this
situation accurately. most americans likely believe poor isreal is forced to fight evil palestine for scraps of land? there most definitely is an evil
in this region, but it certainly isn't palestine.

All of GAZA should be "sanitized". For no other reason than the complete ignorance of such statements as the above pajama clad, armchair,
expert.........

You might try doing a little research and find out what Israel did to provoke Hamas. There are ALWAYS two sides to every story.

Cheers!!!!

amen, brother. the palestinians have carried quite a burden for far too long. mainstream media ignores their plight and refuses to report this
situation accurately. most americans likely believe poor isreal is forced to fight evil palestine for scraps of land? there most definitely is an evil
in this region, but it certainly isn't palestine.

Indeed. Folks just have to look at the map and clearly see who has the advantage and has had the advantage over the other. The entire region is
smaller than most states here in the US! And look at that tiny little plot the Palastines are shoved into and surrounded, intimidated and held
back.

No wonder they lash out with a fury against hi tech weaponry provided by...ahemm!!

From knowing the history, both sides are in the wrong for the way they handled things. Both are wrong in their strikes and counter strikes. For
decades this has been going on, same result, innocents killed on both sides. Why cant the Palastines have their own nation and simply be left alone
like they have been wanting for over 30 years?

The answer is so simple, yet something over there, someone over there, is insistant on keeping this back and forth death game from stopping.

Or is it someone from somewhere else wanting this to continue? The history points to some very interesting answers to that question.

Well, besides video of "victims" getting back on the stretcher, and the Pallies attacking themselves so much they got a name for it. Look for
Pallywood on youtube. It won't change your mind, you'll still hate the Jews, but it might enlighten you to what the Pallies do.

I do not hate Jews. Never said that I did, nor implied that I hate Jews. You are making an assumption, a very WRONG assumption by mis-interpreting
what I am writting. I think I have said more than once, that both sides are in the wrong and both sides have caused death to innocents. How does that
make you think I hate Jews or Palastinians?

I am neutral to the issues, but I dont ignore the history from both sides of the issue..I think that clearly defines me as someone who does not hate
either Jews or Palastinians.

No I wont go over to youtube for reliable source, youtube is about as reliable for actual fact sources as is the tabloid newspaper at the checkout
counter is, makes for good rumor and babble controversy.

Instead, I rely on factual historical record that can be found in printed publications dating from the 60's and 70's and 80's and 90's. The REAL
facts, not fancied up fantasy eye candy catching ratings grabbing media of just today. There is far more to this whole thing than just the past year
events. These two sides have held vendettas against each other for a very, very long time and have carried it over from one leadership to the next.

Again, every one! www.youtube.com... I did the hard work for you. Now all you need to do is
click the link and watch Pallywood for yourselves! "Dead children" waving at cameras, "dead" people climbing back on to stretchers, "dead"
people walking around just fine a week after their performance, so forth.

Edit to add. You hate the Jews that much? You refuse to even watch DOCUMENTARIES on Pallywood because it might change your mind about how much you
hate the Jews? You rely on "facts" from the Pallies, the same ones who hire actors to act out attacks and play victims. Fine, keep being an anti
semite and hating the Jews and celebrating Osama Bin Laden's brothers murdering children.

I hate to speak on somones behalf but hating zionism is not hating jews and its not being anti-semite
i freaking hate zionists , Do i hate jewish people? No
Its like hating every single american because your government is the biggest joke going

When will you realize that most people here are fairly intelligent people who do not give a damn about your silly "pallywood" that you keep going on
about in multiple threads? I'm beginning to think you are a targeting dis-info agent because even the girl in my senior history class who thought the
Nazi's bombed London with nukes in WWII had more sense than to believe such silliness.

Edited to add: Osama Bin Ladens brothers? The Bin Ladens are Saudi-Arabian. The issue at hand is the Palestinians and the Israeli's! Neither have
been related to each other for several thousand years. And yes, a little tidbit, the Israeli's are genetically related to the Palestinians and Arabs
you denounce as murdering tribalists, because both groups were living side by side a mere 2000 ago!

The Israeli bombardment also sparked rallies across the Arab world, including in Amman, the capital of Jordan, and Damascus in Syria.

Hezbollah, the Lebanese movement which fought a 33-day war against Israel in the summer of 2006, called for a demonstration in the southern suburbs of
the Lebanese capital, Beirut, later on Saturday.

"Politically speaking, this is devastating... We can see people in Ramallah coming out on the streets, calling on the leaderships in the Palestinian
territories to unite, and set aside their differences knowing that that will be difficult, as it has been for the past year and a half.

GamerGal - why are you waving the anti-semtic flag so hard? its apparannt you haven`t been here for long - or you would understand that many Jews here
dislike > even hate the zionist regime of israel that makes even there own lives living hell at times ; want to protest , as a jew in israel? well the
IDF will stamp on you if you dont tow the party line.

want to be a christian in israel? be prepared to be openly attacked and have your bible burnt in pyres.
look at both sides , i ask you , before screaming at `terrorist rag heads` again.

history and how the first leders of israel killled British troops would be another place to start as well - this conflict has been going on since the
1920`s.

Such silliness as branding anyone who voices dislike for the jewish as an anti-semite , zionism is real and only those who love ass kissing the jewish
state as much too ignore any and all facts that is been starving, killing and stealing land from the rightfull owners off that land are the only ones
idiotic enough to deny it

Its nice to see people here that are level headed, considering both sides before judging. Its sad that some people will never wake from their dream
and believe everything MSM tells them.

Even though the zionist just commited mass murder, in thier minds nothing is wrong with that, or refuse to acknowlegde their crimes, becuse clearly
zionist are incapable of a crime.

Thank you for seeing that and recognizing it. It is exactly what I am trying to tell some who think Im some Jew hater or support one side over the
other. I dont support either side. I just look at both sides of the conflict, their issues, their reasons, and their purposes for continuing this
endless and senseless fighting that is only killing innocent people on both sides.

Former president Carter during his administration, tried desperately to bring the two to the negotiating table to resolve the issues that Israel and
Palestine are fighting over today, yet it was sheer stubborness by one side that the negotiations failed. Carter writes about this in his book
Palesine Peace Not Apartite. Some have ridiculed this book and done so with information that is not fact based but assumption based. One only need to
study the hard evidence and history to know the inside story to this ongoing conflict.

Even former president George Bush Sr. tried to resolve those issues over there. Article about it
HERE. And who was it that thwarted the efforts to
end the fighting and recognize that the Palestinians deserved their own nation and independance? Just read and find out.

Here is a manuscript from a news conference with former president Reagan about the Israel/Palestine situation from 1987.
LINK

I can post alot more, but all folks have to do is google it and find a hord of factual history regarding this conflict with Israel and Palestine.

You do realize that Israel has one of the most effective and active propaganda / Dis Info machines in the entire world, second only to China and the
USA? You do realize that if you were attempting to wipe out a group of people and take their land, you would use every tool at your disposal,
including a little "Media Magic"?

Perhaps you should ponder that in this day and age, anyone can be holding the camera and calling the shots.

When will you realize that most people here are fairly intelligent people who do not give a damn about your silly "pallywood" that you keep going on
about in multiple threads? I'm beginning to think you are a targeting dis-info agent because even the girl in my senior history class who thought the
Nazi's bombed London with nukes in WWII had more sense than to believe such silliness.

Well said. This girl reminds me of kindergarten. She's on my ignore list now because nothing reasonable comes out of this.

Anyhow, the US once again failed to condemn the air attacks on the Gaza strip. Seriously SNIP the American government. Like the Israeli soldier said
in the video i posted on page 5: the public opinion of America is the strongest weapon Israel has. Once the US has gone bankrupt much will change for
Israel:

Remember the Roman Empire, the state of Judea behaved in ways which annoyed the Romans but didn't do them any harm. At the point that they
were becoming a nuisance, the Romans turned against them, destroyed their temple, wiped them out and told them 'an empire has bigger concerns than
you'. This is what Israel faces in the next 25 years.

The risk that the American empire will say wait a minute, you don't matter so much to us, either because we need oil more than we need you or because
oil is no longer important - doesn't matter both has the same effect. You are more trouble than you are worth and the issue of the Holocaust and
Antisemitism is declining with demographic move to the next generation. This is a catastrophe for Israel, because Israel has no other friends in
the world.

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