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anybofy know what is the chance of Seitokai no Ichizon getting 2nd seson. becouse the novel is getting better

With those kinds of sales, it's not out of the realm of possibility. It's been one of DEEN's better selling shows in the last two years, that's for sure. That said, I dropped Ichizon, just wasn't funny and was random all over the place. IMO Yakuindomo is like Ichizon done right.

With those kinds of sales, it's not out of the realm of possibility. It's been one of DEEN's better selling shows in the last two years, that's for sure. That said, I dropped Ichizon, just wasn't funny and was random all over the place. IMO Yakuindomo is like Ichizon done right.

well they have to, because they light novel are getting better with whole romantic and heart-warming story

Seitokai no Ichizon was galaxies ahead of Yakuindomo in terms of subtlety, plotting and character development - for me, Yakuindomo was a mediocre echo of Ichizon. Just goes to show how personal tastes vary when it comes to comedy especially.

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Give it some time, it'll come around. Apparently there's not much source material to get a full second season in unless they go and rehash all that was skipped over in the first one and even then it would be a bit of a stretch.

Just give it some time, with those sales it's quite possible there will be eventually.

I don't think that's right. There are already 11 volumes on the manga, and the adaptation skipped over enormous chunks of the volumes it did cover. If they wanted to do one, they have enough material.

I don't quite buy the notion that it's too soon either, as there have been many examples to the contrary. Of course it could just be a matter of sucking a little more life out of the S1 DVD/BD sales, but at 15+ plus per volume, most studios would already kill for those numbers. I still think a second season is an inevitability but I'd love to see it happen in 2011.

An anime based on a light novel has better plotting, character development and to boot is more subtle than an anime based on a 4koma? Goodness who would've expected that.... I prefer Yakuindomo because I like the characters better and it's more enjoyable to me.

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I don't quite buy the notion that it's too soon either, as there have been many examples to the contrary.

The majority of what you would be thinking in this regards are series that were split cour anyway. It didn't matter how the first season of said series performed, they were going to receive a sequel after one cour off because that was the initial plan. Mitsudomoe 2 for instance would never had been cleared for a sequel if it was made like Working!! Sadly that would also had probably been the case for Kami Nomi as well if it wasn't a split cour series.

Working! only finished half a year ago and A-1 have several projects up its sleeve atm, have some patience.

An anime based on a light novel has better plotting, character development and to boot is more subtle than an anime based on a 4koma? Goodness who would've expected that.... I prefer Yakuindomo because I like the characters better and it's more enjoyable to me.

Guess I should have mentioned that Ichizon was about 1000x funnier too! But like I said, to each his own.

Well, I have no issue with dirty jokes (not being an acolyte of Ishihara). My issue with Yakuindomo was that it was basically the same dirty joke in about 200 incrementally different variations. But obviously I wan in the minority on that one, so I chalk it up to personal tastes - and it did grow on me enough to make it through the entire series.

Sorry to drag this off-topic into a Seitoaki debate. To bring it back, let me offer a New Year's wish that both series get sequels and make their fans happy...

It's a bit surprising how many of the DVDs didn't rank this week, I guess the barrier of entry for DVDs was just too high this week with all the series coming out and the rankings stopping at 2,218. I'm guessing that a lot of the ones that didn't rank were just below the entry level, particularly Ika Musume and YnS, which both probably had around 2,000 DVDs sold. Same with a lot of the other higher ranked BDs. Although when you get down to the BDs that sold around 2,000, the DVDs are probably only in the high hundreds, if that. I feel like PSG is over 3,000 sold with DVD numbers though.

Anyway, as expected, Oreimo dominates this season, even outpacing my expectations in both DVD and BDs, although I wasn't far off. I thought it would sale around the high 3,000s-low 4,000s, and the BDs to be in the high 16,000s-low 17,000s. And sales continue to drop off for Kuroshitsuji, although that's usual for it. The DVD will still probably cross 10,000 over the next few weeks. Same deal with DRRR!!, although it has more wiggle room. And lol SoraOto, that's a big drop off from first season sales, and the DVDs are at best only in the low 1,000s. I haven't caught up with the second season myself, but I'm guessing it must have been pretty disappointing for this to happen. Not even the announcement of a movie for it had an effect on sales. Hell, the idea for a movie adaptation of this is laughable in itself.

And finally, congratulations to both Ika-chan and YnS, two series which were both kind of black horses this season and turned it around to become probably the 4th and 5th best selling series this season, respectively. With DVDs added in both would probably be around the mid 8,000 area. And going off of pre-order data, the Sora arc of YnS will be even higher in sales than this first volume was.

Having noticed this trend before, and with the info that Suzuku had posted, it looks like the shift from DVD's to BD's has been mostly complete, at least for the Japanese Anime consumers. I do wonder if the break even point for DVD's (3000~5000 units) is the same for Blu-ray's?

Having noticed this trend before, and with the info that Suzuku had posted, it looks like the shift from DVD's to BD's has been mostly complete, at least for the Japanese Anime consumers. I do wonder if the break even point for DVD's (3000~5000 units) is the same for Blu-ray's?

BDs are usually released alongside DVDs, so the numbers are combined for series with both formats. As such, there's no specific break even point for BDs, it's still the same 3000-5000 line for BD+DVD releases. Also, the difference between prices for BDs and DVDs is very little, usually only around a $15 difference (depending on the SKU).

How many DVDs does it take to break even for producing the anime, and what is considered a good number? Does the higher price of DVDs in Japan factor into lower numbers? I'm used to millions of units sold for things like video games or blockbuster movies so my expectations are a bit unrealistic. Something like Naruto would still cost $150k an episode right?

DVDs and BDs for anime in Japan generally cost about ￥6,500-9,000 ($79-110), with Amazon discounting around 28% of the upfront cost. Generally, 3,000-4,000 BD/DVD copies sold is the excepted number of sales for an anime to break even. And yes, the insane prices have an effect. You're spending upwards of $100 per volume (with most series being 6-8 vols long) for two or three episodes of a series. Contrast this to America, where you can buy an entire season of a show for around $20, although this is due to most shows airing during prime time and thus having very high ratings, whereas most anime air late at night.

Also, Naruto (and other such kid's anime) DVD pricing is about half of what late night anime pricing is, as the show relies on ratings and merchandising (games, T-Shirts, manga volume sales, etc) for revenue rather than DVD sales. You know, the traditional way. In addition, DVD sales for Naruto (and again, other kid's anime) are not high due to the above (they sale like 1,500 copies per volume). Of course, very popular late night anime series such as Kimi ni Todoke, Index/Railgun, K-ON!, or Oreimo enjoy very high BD/DVD sales as well as merchandising sales (primarily manga/novel volumes, but games as well).