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As the President sees it
Memorandum
To: The College
Council
From Frank Serins.
Ret Board action
on Visitation
At itsmeettng on Friday;29
October 1976, the Board of
Trustees of the college
deckled:
1. That, jurisdiction over
visitation hours is retained
with toe board of trustees.
tThto specifically means
that it is not within the
responsibility of the CoHege
Council, theiDean of Sto-
dents or the President.)
2. That visitation hours will
not be extended: this deci
sion is specifically applied
to the entire current
academic year.
1, That toe Dean of Students
is asked to prepare for the
beard at its meeting next
May a proposal for visitor
tion patterns which would
vary by different dormitory
locations (floors] wings,
ete) to permit students
some 'choice in regard to
visitation.
Among the major factors
cited in board discussion, I
would mention:
a) a sincere and deep con>
corn with privacy
rights of students, es»
pecially since almost
all of our student rooms
: are double. ■-
b) afcencern that, ifthis
matter were delegated
to the dean of students,
he would be under constant «nd conflicting
pressures over it.
c) parental objections,
communicated to individual trustees, to
any extension of present hours.
While I realize that not
everyone will be happy with
these decisions, they were
made firmly and definitively^ after' full consideration
of all factors and viewpoints. They are, of course,
binding on the college administration and will be accepted and implemented in
full good faith. ";'".,■
Spokane Symphony
to visit Helena
Vol. 2-No. 5
- Tuesday, November 8, 1971
The Tumbleweed
The Spokane Symphony
will be coming to Helena on
November 19th. Under toe
direction of Donald
Thulean, they will be performing with the Carroll
College Choir. This choir is
under toe direction of Joe
Munzenrider. Together
with the symphony, the
choir will be pe^crtmng
two works. One, The Bach
Cantata No. 37, Praise To
The Lord, is a driving piece,
sung in German, with
verses featuring different
vocal sections. Gkwonni
GabrieHf wrote toe other
work that will be performed, a motet for 12 parts
and three choirs. This iS
sung in Latin, an exquisite
piece that doesn't reach its
climax until the end.
The symphony will also
be performing works by
Wagner, Respighi, and
Prokovieff, all which will
be augmented by the
acoustical spleH#ar Of the
St. Helena Cathedral.
There will be an open
rehearsal Thursday,
November 18, from 1:30 to
4:00 for anyone interested
in viewing a professional
symphony in practice,
Thursday the symphony and
choir will be performing in
Anaconda, t and Friday in
Helena. The Friday night
concert will begin promptly
at 8:00 in the St. Helena
Cathedral. Saturday, the
Spokane Symphony
Orchestra will do a combined concert with the
Helena. Symphony in the
Civic Center at 8:00.
Advance tickets are $3.50
for adults and $2.75 for students. They are available
at the switchboard and
numerous places around
town. Tickets will be
slightly higher at toe door.
Morality — key issue of visitation policy
by Mark Sevier
The Board of Trustees of
Carroll College have chosen
to keep the responsibility of
governing the inter-dorm
visitaion policy in their
hands.
In a closed meeting of toe
Board of Trustees (B.o.T.)
October 29, toe board voted
down a four page proposal
that outlined a plan through
which toe Dean of Students
office would assume all
responsibility for the visitation policy. Because toe
Dean's office was in contact with the students, they
felt that they should be able
to handle the policy and
decide how it would be run
without having to go fo toe
B.o.T. for every change
toat was to be made. This
proposal, written by an ad
hoc committee composed of
several people, including
Dr. Kerins, was presented
to toe College Council last
August, and was accepted.
To insure that this
proposal would be carefully
considered by the B.o.T.,
each member of the board
was visted by two R.A.s,
several of which traveled to
Butte, Bozeman and Missoula. This lobbying effort
was made in hopes that the
-members of the board
would understand their
position concerning this
proposal.. They had hoped
that the members of toe
board would be able to
separate toe concrete issue
of visitation from the moral
issue of men and women'
relatonships. :
While the R.As were lob?
hying in favor of this;
proposal, there were a few
lobbying to have this
proposal defeated. Fr. Lee
Hightower circulated a letter from the president of
Benedictine College in
Atchison, Kansas, stating
toat toeir college had cut
back their visitation hours
to about three hours a day.
Fr. Hightower would not
release that letter for
publicaton, though he did
use it to lobby against the
proposal.
When asked if he was one
of the main driving forces
behind the proposal's
defeat, Fr. Hightower
replied "Yes";
Also opposing the
proposal was Fr. Paul
Kirchen. Shortly before the
vote was taken, Fr. Kirchen
personally appeared before
the board, delivering an ad%
dress toat, as a member of
the board stated, "...-
questioned toe existence of
visitation hours oh a
Catholic college campus."
The board took toe issue
from there and, using toe
rational described in Dr.
Kerins' memorandum to
toe College Council (printed
on this page) along with toe
moral issue of what men
and women should and
should not do, voted to
defeat the proposal.
Two of the members of
the B.o.T. were contacted
and questioned about toe
board's decision,
Chairperson of toe Board
Joseph Maiorle and Louise
Gait. Maierle felt toat the
board voted as they did
because "it would be too
much authority to give one;
man". He claimed toat he:
and other members of the
board had been contacted
by parents who "were quite
upset with what was happening with the visitation
question on campus". As a
personal view, Maierle!
stated: "Visitation hours,
go against all principles of
Catholic education".
Louise Gait had a slightly
different view of the issue.
She felt that the board
acted as they did- because
"To vote far favor of that
proposal would not be consistent. To give toe responsibility of visitation policy
to toe dean's office would
be abdicating our responsibility as the Board of
Trustees." When asked to
: respond to a statement
from Brian Smith, one of
the R.A.S who had spoke to
her, stating that she had
told him that "visitation
hours were too trivial for
the Board of Trustees to
deal with", she said, "At
that time I did not realize
that the board had previous
ly token a stand on the issue". *■■
The B.o.T. has asked toe
Dean's office to prepare a
new proposal that would incorporate a flexibility in
hours for different floors.
This proposal will not be
able to be presented until
toe. board meets again in
May.
World harvest fast
Join a bilion people in the,,
world November 18 -^ and
go without food. Fastlfor a
World Harvest on the
Thursday before
Thanksgiving and help support Oxfam-America.
Oxfam-America is an
organization toat seeks to
find hew and effective ways
of strengthening the
development capability of
poor people hi the third
world.
Saga Foods manager,
Don Guiberson, has given
us full cooperation in this
project, Don Will give toe
project the monetary
equivalent of any meals
pledged by students on that
day. Pledge sheets will be
distributed to all students
on Sunday, November 14.
Included in the days activities will be a mass of
awareness, offered in
Guadalupe Chapel at 12:90
noon. All faculty, Staff and
Students are welcome and
urged to attend.
Sponsored by:
Chaplains Office and
Concerned Students

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As the President sees it
Memorandum
To: The College
Council
From Frank Serins.
Ret Board action
on Visitation
At itsmeettng on Friday;29
October 1976, the Board of
Trustees of the college
deckled:
1. That, jurisdiction over
visitation hours is retained
with toe board of trustees.
tThto specifically means
that it is not within the
responsibility of the CoHege
Council, theiDean of Sto-
dents or the President.)
2. That visitation hours will
not be extended: this deci
sion is specifically applied
to the entire current
academic year.
1, That toe Dean of Students
is asked to prepare for the
beard at its meeting next
May a proposal for visitor
tion patterns which would
vary by different dormitory
locations (floors] wings,
ete) to permit students
some 'choice in regard to
visitation.
Among the major factors
cited in board discussion, I
would mention:
a) a sincere and deep con>
corn with privacy
rights of students, es»
pecially since almost
all of our student rooms
: are double. ■-
b) afcencern that, ifthis
matter were delegated
to the dean of students,
he would be under constant «nd conflicting
pressures over it.
c) parental objections,
communicated to individual trustees, to
any extension of present hours.
While I realize that not
everyone will be happy with
these decisions, they were
made firmly and definitively^ after' full consideration
of all factors and viewpoints. They are, of course,
binding on the college administration and will be accepted and implemented in
full good faith. ";'".,■
Spokane Symphony
to visit Helena
Vol. 2-No. 5
- Tuesday, November 8, 1971
The Tumbleweed
The Spokane Symphony
will be coming to Helena on
November 19th. Under toe
direction of Donald
Thulean, they will be performing with the Carroll
College Choir. This choir is
under toe direction of Joe
Munzenrider. Together
with the symphony, the
choir will be pe^crtmng
two works. One, The Bach
Cantata No. 37, Praise To
The Lord, is a driving piece,
sung in German, with
verses featuring different
vocal sections. Gkwonni
GabrieHf wrote toe other
work that will be performed, a motet for 12 parts
and three choirs. This iS
sung in Latin, an exquisite
piece that doesn't reach its
climax until the end.
The symphony will also
be performing works by
Wagner, Respighi, and
Prokovieff, all which will
be augmented by the
acoustical spleH#ar Of the
St. Helena Cathedral.
There will be an open
rehearsal Thursday,
November 18, from 1:30 to
4:00 for anyone interested
in viewing a professional
symphony in practice,
Thursday the symphony and
choir will be performing in
Anaconda, t and Friday in
Helena. The Friday night
concert will begin promptly
at 8:00 in the St. Helena
Cathedral. Saturday, the
Spokane Symphony
Orchestra will do a combined concert with the
Helena. Symphony in the
Civic Center at 8:00.
Advance tickets are $3.50
for adults and $2.75 for students. They are available
at the switchboard and
numerous places around
town. Tickets will be
slightly higher at toe door.
Morality — key issue of visitation policy
by Mark Sevier
The Board of Trustees of
Carroll College have chosen
to keep the responsibility of
governing the inter-dorm
visitaion policy in their
hands.
In a closed meeting of toe
Board of Trustees (B.o.T.)
October 29, toe board voted
down a four page proposal
that outlined a plan through
which toe Dean of Students
office would assume all
responsibility for the visitation policy. Because toe
Dean's office was in contact with the students, they
felt that they should be able
to handle the policy and
decide how it would be run
without having to go fo toe
B.o.T. for every change
toat was to be made. This
proposal, written by an ad
hoc committee composed of
several people, including
Dr. Kerins, was presented
to toe College Council last
August, and was accepted.
To insure that this
proposal would be carefully
considered by the B.o.T.,
each member of the board
was visted by two R.A.s,
several of which traveled to
Butte, Bozeman and Missoula. This lobbying effort
was made in hopes that the
-members of the board
would understand their
position concerning this
proposal.. They had hoped
that the members of toe
board would be able to
separate toe concrete issue
of visitation from the moral
issue of men and women'
relatonships. :
While the R.As were lob?
hying in favor of this;
proposal, there were a few
lobbying to have this
proposal defeated. Fr. Lee
Hightower circulated a letter from the president of
Benedictine College in
Atchison, Kansas, stating
toat toeir college had cut
back their visitation hours
to about three hours a day.
Fr. Hightower would not
release that letter for
publicaton, though he did
use it to lobby against the
proposal.
When asked if he was one
of the main driving forces
behind the proposal's
defeat, Fr. Hightower
replied "Yes";
Also opposing the
proposal was Fr. Paul
Kirchen. Shortly before the
vote was taken, Fr. Kirchen
personally appeared before
the board, delivering an ad%
dress toat, as a member of
the board stated, "...-
questioned toe existence of
visitation hours oh a
Catholic college campus."
The board took toe issue
from there and, using toe
rational described in Dr.
Kerins' memorandum to
toe College Council (printed
on this page) along with toe
moral issue of what men
and women should and
should not do, voted to
defeat the proposal.
Two of the members of
the B.o.T. were contacted
and questioned about toe
board's decision,
Chairperson of toe Board
Joseph Maiorle and Louise
Gait. Maierle felt toat the
board voted as they did
because "it would be too
much authority to give one;
man". He claimed toat he:
and other members of the
board had been contacted
by parents who "were quite
upset with what was happening with the visitation
question on campus". As a
personal view, Maierle!
stated: "Visitation hours,
go against all principles of
Catholic education".
Louise Gait had a slightly
different view of the issue.
She felt that the board
acted as they did- because
"To vote far favor of that
proposal would not be consistent. To give toe responsibility of visitation policy
to toe dean's office would
be abdicating our responsibility as the Board of
Trustees." When asked to
: respond to a statement
from Brian Smith, one of
the R.A.S who had spoke to
her, stating that she had
told him that "visitation
hours were too trivial for
the Board of Trustees to
deal with", she said, "At
that time I did not realize
that the board had previous
ly token a stand on the issue". *■■
The B.o.T. has asked toe
Dean's office to prepare a
new proposal that would incorporate a flexibility in
hours for different floors.
This proposal will not be
able to be presented until
toe. board meets again in
May.
World harvest fast
Join a bilion people in the,,
world November 18 -^ and
go without food. Fastlfor a
World Harvest on the
Thursday before
Thanksgiving and help support Oxfam-America.
Oxfam-America is an
organization toat seeks to
find hew and effective ways
of strengthening the
development capability of
poor people hi the third
world.
Saga Foods manager,
Don Guiberson, has given
us full cooperation in this
project, Don Will give toe
project the monetary
equivalent of any meals
pledged by students on that
day. Pledge sheets will be
distributed to all students
on Sunday, November 14.
Included in the days activities will be a mass of
awareness, offered in
Guadalupe Chapel at 12:90
noon. All faculty, Staff and
Students are welcome and
urged to attend.
Sponsored by:
Chaplains Office and
Concerned Students