When that happens with any club you'd say that the manager has "lost the dressing room". It's a common phrase which implies that the manager has failed to do his job (for whatever reason) and it's time for him to move on. Why should it not mean that same with Hodgson and the Liverpool team?

Hodgson is simply out of his depth and he himself has said on more than one occasion that he cannot do any more than he is doing with the situation.

He riles me more than anything in football on nights like this. I can't stand the way he rates teams and his own performance based on how 'feted' they are, I can't stand the dishonest way he has gradually lowered and lowered expectations with every defeat, I can't stand the backhanded way he attacks and disowns his own players in the press, I can't stand the way he reneges on all personal responsibility, I can't stand the utter delusional assesments of defeat upon defeat, I can't stand the way he thinks it's 'famous' to beat the likes of Bolton, blackburn and trabzonspor, I can't stand the way he has no ambition or winning mentality whatsoever and I can't stand having a negative goalscore and one away win all season in fecking January.

he's not a gentleman, he's not very nice at all when you look at the stuff he actually says, he's not a thinking football man, and somehow the English football public have been deluded into thinking he is another Bobby Moore because he went abroad and coached in little leagues around Europe and couches his lack of ambition with a pretense of false humility.

He is antithetical to the liverpool way, antithetical to the values and aims of any club of higher ambition than midtable. He won't resign of course, he has already said he will never ever resign from a managerial a position. FSG needs to boot him out asap so we can finally close the book on the last chapter of the G&H farce.

This is the point though - they'll sack Woy and then the next manager will have it all to do again. Hopefully the timescale of anyone at LFC realising will coincide with the end of the season and see them relegated.

I think what it was intended for was a rebuke of your indictment of a rather bitter and unfair character assasination of a man who's only crime is not pleasing Liverpool's rampantly obsessive fans in the half a year he's been there. Despite shocking performances from the players under his charge, most of whom were disciples of the previous regime, and a pretty unsupportive fanbase it must be said as well, Roy now deserves nothing but scorn and his history to be re-written and slandered because some fans are looking for a singular cathartic excuse and an easy scapegoat...why it was G&H all but a couple of months ago. Now it's all Roy. It's all someone else..Kill the pig, cut his throat, bash him in.

Not that Roy deserves to stay of course, but cheap and rather OTT attacks like that are rather pathetic IMO.

I think what it was intended for was a rebuke of your indictment of a rather bitter and unfair character assasination of a man who's only crime is not pleasing Liverpool's rampantly obsessive fans in the half a year he's been there. Despite shocking performances from the players under his charge, most of whom were disciples of the previous regime, and a pretty unsupportive fanbase it must be said as well, Roy now deserves nothing but scorn and his history to be re-written and slandered because some fans are looking for an easy excuse.

Not that Roy deserves to stay of course, but cheap and rather OTT attacks like that are rather pathetic IMO.

I think what it was intended for was a rebuke of your indictment of a rather bitter and unfair character assasination of a man who's only crime is not pleasing Liverpool's rampantly obsessive fans in the half a year he's been there. Despite shocking performances from the players under his charge, most of whom were disciples of the previous regime, and a pretty unsupportive fanbase it must be said as well, Roy now deserves nothing but scorn and his history to be re-written and slandered because some fans are looking for a singular cathartic excuse and an easy scapegoat...why it was G&H all but a couple of months ago. Now it's all Roy. It's all someone else..Kill the pig, cut his throat, bash him in.

Not that Roy deserves to stay of course, but cheap and rather OTT attacks like that are rather pathetic IMO.