Trouble is we are doing our transfer business the wrong way round. Every selling club knows a) we are desperate to sign players b) we have a large pile of cash

Trouble is we are doing our transfer business the wrong way round. Every selling club knows a) we are desperate to sign players b) we have a large pile of cashSeedhouse the Unrepentant

Trouble is we are doing our transfer business the wrong way round. Every selling club knows a) we are desperate to sign players b) we have a large pile of cash

Score: 31

Little Hitler says...8:12am Thu 3 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote…

Trouble is we are doing our transfer business the wrong way round. Every selling club knows a) we are desperate to sign players b) we have a large pile of cash

It shouldn't matter though, if a player is valued at £5m we should still be able to get him for that price if we're firm.

[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
Trouble is we are doing our transfer business the wrong way round. Every selling club knows a) we are desperate to sign players b) we have a large pile of cash[/p][/quote]It shouldn't matter though, if a player is valued at £5m we should still be able to get him for that price if we're firm.Little Hitler

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote…

Trouble is we are doing our transfer business the wrong way round. Every selling club knows a) we are desperate to sign players b) we have a large pile of cash

It shouldn't matter though, if a player is valued at £5m we should still be able to get him for that price if we're firm.

Score: 15

Sammy2sheds says...8:30am Thu 3 Jul 14

Everyone will stick a few million on the top of their players.that is what les has caused by buckling to players demands.i cannot understand why the deals had to be done so early in the transfer window. Why couldn't les grant their requests but ask for no press until their replacements were signed. We are now in a weak bargaining position and other clubs will squeeze us.i think saint should draw a line in the sand with lovren.do not sell him and if he doesn't like it we should take the hit and put him in the u21s for a while. These players have shown no respect and we are all waiting for saints to fight back. Les should not sell lovren,especially before a replacement is brought in.

Everyone will stick a few million on the top of their players.that is what les has caused by buckling to players demands.i cannot understand why the deals had to be done so early in the transfer window.
Why couldn't les grant their requests but ask for no press until their replacements were signed.
We are now in a weak bargaining position and other clubs will squeeze us.i think saint should draw a line in the sand with lovren.do not sell him and if he doesn't like it we should take the hit and put him in the u21s for a while.
These players have shown no respect and we are all waiting for saints to fight back.
Les should not sell lovren,especially before a replacement is brought in.Sammy2sheds

Everyone will stick a few million on the top of their players.that is what les has caused by buckling to players demands.i cannot understand why the deals had to be done so early in the transfer window. Why couldn't les grant their requests but ask for no press until their replacements were signed. We are now in a weak bargaining position and other clubs will squeeze us.i think saint should draw a line in the sand with lovren.do not sell him and if he doesn't like it we should take the hit and put him in the u21s for a while. These players have shown no respect and we are all waiting for saints to fight back. Les should not sell lovren,especially before a replacement is brought in.

Score: 36

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...8:33am Thu 3 Jul 14

Little Hitler wrote…

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote…

Trouble is we are doing our transfer business the wrong way round. Every selling club knows a) we are desperate to sign players b) we have a large pile of cash

It shouldn't matter though, if a player is valued at £5m we should still be able to get him for that price if we're firm.

That's the exact opposite of what we said over the selling of Shaw and Lallana. If the selling club aren't desperate to sell then they will hold out for their price.

[quote][p][bold]Little Hitler[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
Trouble is we are doing our transfer business the wrong way round. Every selling club knows a) we are desperate to sign players b) we have a large pile of cash[/p][/quote]It shouldn't matter though, if a player is valued at £5m we should still be able to get him for that price if we're firm.[/p][/quote]That's the exact opposite of what we said over the selling of Shaw and Lallana. If the selling club aren't desperate to sell then they will hold out for their price.Seedhouse the Unrepentant

Little Hitler wrote…

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote…

Trouble is we are doing our transfer business the wrong way round. Every selling club knows a) we are desperate to sign players b) we have a large pile of cash

It shouldn't matter though, if a player is valued at £5m we should still be able to get him for that price if we're firm.

That's the exact opposite of what we said over the selling of Shaw and Lallana. If the selling club aren't desperate to sell then they will hold out for their price.

Score: 10

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...8:51am Thu 3 Jul 14

+++++SIGN HIM UP - SIGN HIM UP +++++ COYR

+++++SIGN HIM UP - SIGN HIM UP +++++ COYRThe Rise of The Foot Soldier.

Yeah, totally agree, should have offered £12m and worked backwards and looked even more stupid!

I'm not totally convinced you are aware of how negotiations work. A first offer of more than what the player is worth is going to make the selling club think they can get even more from us. It is unlikely they will turn around and say "No, no that's too much offer us less." An offer of way below the player's value, as in our initial offer, is likely to be rejected out of hand and regarded by the selling club as displaying a lack of respect to them and to the player. Do you remember when Terry Vegetables offered £400k for Razor Ruddock when we valued him at £2m? It went to tribunal and Ruddock went for £750k. Spurs then valued him 12 months later at £4m when he went to Liverpool. That was Spurs demonstrating a lack of respect to us, and is similar to us making a disrespectful offer to Feyenoord. Hope that helps.

[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote:
Saints..... oh dear oh dear oh dear..... £3M initial offer just makes us look stupid..... :-([/p][/quote]Dead right - there's haggling and there's taking the p!ss.[/p][/quote]Yeah, totally agree, should have offered £12m and worked backwards and looked even more stupid![/p][/quote]I'm not totally convinced you are aware of how negotiations work.
A first offer of more than what the player is worth is going to make the selling club think they can get even more from us. It is unlikely they will turn around and say "No, no that's too much offer us less."
An offer of way below the player's value, as in our initial offer, is likely to be rejected out of hand and regarded by the selling club as displaying a lack of respect to them and to the player.
Do you remember when Terry Vegetables offered £400k for Razor Ruddock when we valued him at £2m? It went to tribunal and Ruddock went for £750k. Spurs then valued him 12 months later at £4m when he went to Liverpool.
That was Spurs demonstrating a lack of respect to us, and is similar to us making a disrespectful offer to Feyenoord.
Hope that helps.Jan28th1984

Yeah, totally agree, should have offered £12m and worked backwards and looked even more stupid!

I'm not totally convinced you are aware of how negotiations work. A first offer of more than what the player is worth is going to make the selling club think they can get even more from us. It is unlikely they will turn around and say "No, no that's too much offer us less." An offer of way below the player's value, as in our initial offer, is likely to be rejected out of hand and regarded by the selling club as displaying a lack of respect to them and to the player. Do you remember when Terry Vegetables offered £400k for Razor Ruddock when we valued him at £2m? It went to tribunal and Ruddock went for £750k. Spurs then valued him 12 months later at £4m when he went to Liverpool. That was Spurs demonstrating a lack of respect to us, and is similar to us making a disrespectful offer to Feyenoord. Hope that helps.

Yeah, totally agree, should have offered £12m and worked backwards and looked even more stupid!

I'm not totally convinced you are aware of how negotiations work. A first offer of more than what the player is worth is going to make the selling club think they can get even more from us. It is unlikely they will turn around and say "No, no that's too much offer us less." An offer of way below the player's value, as in our initial offer, is likely to be rejected out of hand and regarded by the selling club as displaying a lack of respect to them and to the player. Do you remember when Terry Vegetables offered £400k for Razor Ruddock when we valued him at £2m? It went to tribunal and Ruddock went for £750k. Spurs then valued him 12 months later at £4m when he went to Liverpool. That was Spurs demonstrating a lack of respect to us, and is similar to us making a disrespectful offer to Feyenoord. Hope that helps.

Yeah? no sh1t sherlock, learn something new everyday eh! Must remember your wise word when I'm next down at Bursledon Car booty. Just one question, ever heard of the term "Sarcasm" ?

[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote:
Saints..... oh dear oh dear oh dear..... £3M initial offer just makes us look stupid..... :-([/p][/quote]Dead right - there's haggling and there's taking the p!ss.[/p][/quote]Yeah, totally agree, should have offered £12m and worked backwards and looked even more stupid![/p][/quote]I'm not totally convinced you are aware of how negotiations work.
A first offer of more than what the player is worth is going to make the selling club think they can get even more from us. It is unlikely they will turn around and say "No, no that's too much offer us less."
An offer of way below the player's value, as in our initial offer, is likely to be rejected out of hand and regarded by the selling club as displaying a lack of respect to them and to the player.
Do you remember when Terry Vegetables offered £400k for Razor Ruddock when we valued him at £2m? It went to tribunal and Ruddock went for £750k. Spurs then valued him 12 months later at £4m when he went to Liverpool.
That was Spurs demonstrating a lack of respect to us, and is similar to us making a disrespectful offer to Feyenoord.
Hope that helps.[/p][/quote]Yeah? no sh1t sherlock, learn something new everyday eh!
Must remember your wise word when I'm next down at Bursledon Car booty.
Just one question, ever heard of the term "Sarcasm" ?SaintAsh1964

Yeah, totally agree, should have offered £12m and worked backwards and looked even more stupid!

I'm not totally convinced you are aware of how negotiations work. A first offer of more than what the player is worth is going to make the selling club think they can get even more from us. It is unlikely they will turn around and say "No, no that's too much offer us less." An offer of way below the player's value, as in our initial offer, is likely to be rejected out of hand and regarded by the selling club as displaying a lack of respect to them and to the player. Do you remember when Terry Vegetables offered £400k for Razor Ruddock when we valued him at £2m? It went to tribunal and Ruddock went for £750k. Spurs then valued him 12 months later at £4m when he went to Liverpool. That was Spurs demonstrating a lack of respect to us, and is similar to us making a disrespectful offer to Feyenoord. Hope that helps.

Yeah? no sh1t sherlock, learn something new everyday eh! Must remember your wise word when I'm next down at Bursledon Car booty. Just one question, ever heard of the term "Sarcasm" ?

Score: 17

brighton saint says...10:14am Thu 3 Jul 14

Funny as dude!!! At least that brought a smile to my face...gotta love a bit of sarcasm!!

Funny as dude!!! At least that brought a smile to my face...gotta love a bit of sarcasm!!brighton saint

Funny as dude!!! At least that brought a smile to my face...gotta love a bit of sarcasm!!

Score: 0

brighton saint says...10:14am Thu 3 Jul 14

Funny as dude!!! At least that brought a smile to my face...gotta love a bit of sarcasm!!

Funny as dude!!! At least that brought a smile to my face...gotta love a bit of sarcasm!!brighton saint

Funny as dude!!! At least that brought a smile to my face...gotta love a bit of sarcasm!!

Score: 0

brighton saint says...10:14am Thu 3 Jul 14

Funny as dude!!! At least that brought a smile to my face...gotta love a bit of sarcasm!!

Funny as dude!!! At least that brought a smile to my face...gotta love a bit of sarcasm!!brighton saint

Funny as dude!!! At least that brought a smile to my face...gotta love a bit of sarcasm!!

Yeah, totally agree, should have offered £12m and worked backwards and looked even more stupid!

I'm not totally convinced you are aware of how negotiations work. A first offer of more than what the player is worth is going to make the selling club think they can get even more from us. It is unlikely they will turn around and say "No, no that's too much offer us less." An offer of way below the player's value, as in our initial offer, is likely to be rejected out of hand and regarded by the selling club as displaying a lack of respect to them and to the player. Do you remember when Terry Vegetables offered £400k for Razor Ruddock when we valued him at £2m? It went to tribunal and Ruddock went for £750k. Spurs then valued him 12 months later at £4m when he went to Liverpool. That was Spurs demonstrating a lack of respect to us, and is similar to us making a disrespectful offer to Feyenoord. Hope that helps.

Yeah? no sh1t sherlock, learn something new everyday eh! Must remember your wise word when I'm next down at Bursledon Car booty. Just one question, ever heard of the term "Sarcasm" ?

Yes, it's the lowest form of wit. Have a lovely day.

[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote:
Saints..... oh dear oh dear oh dear..... £3M initial offer just makes us look stupid..... :-([/p][/quote]Dead right - there's haggling and there's taking the p!ss.[/p][/quote]Yeah, totally agree, should have offered £12m and worked backwards and looked even more stupid![/p][/quote]I'm not totally convinced you are aware of how negotiations work.
A first offer of more than what the player is worth is going to make the selling club think they can get even more from us. It is unlikely they will turn around and say "No, no that's too much offer us less."
An offer of way below the player's value, as in our initial offer, is likely to be rejected out of hand and regarded by the selling club as displaying a lack of respect to them and to the player.
Do you remember when Terry Vegetables offered £400k for Razor Ruddock when we valued him at £2m? It went to tribunal and Ruddock went for £750k. Spurs then valued him 12 months later at £4m when he went to Liverpool.
That was Spurs demonstrating a lack of respect to us, and is similar to us making a disrespectful offer to Feyenoord.
Hope that helps.[/p][/quote]Yeah? no sh1t sherlock, learn something new everyday eh!
Must remember your wise word when I'm next down at Bursledon Car booty.
Just one question, ever heard of the term "Sarcasm" ?[/p][/quote]Yes, it's the lowest form of wit.
Have a lovely day.Jan28th1984

Yeah, totally agree, should have offered £12m and worked backwards and looked even more stupid!

I'm not totally convinced you are aware of how negotiations work. A first offer of more than what the player is worth is going to make the selling club think they can get even more from us. It is unlikely they will turn around and say "No, no that's too much offer us less." An offer of way below the player's value, as in our initial offer, is likely to be rejected out of hand and regarded by the selling club as displaying a lack of respect to them and to the player. Do you remember when Terry Vegetables offered £400k for Razor Ruddock when we valued him at £2m? It went to tribunal and Ruddock went for £750k. Spurs then valued him 12 months later at £4m when he went to Liverpool. That was Spurs demonstrating a lack of respect to us, and is similar to us making a disrespectful offer to Feyenoord. Hope that helps.

Yeah? no sh1t sherlock, learn something new everyday eh! Must remember your wise word when I'm next down at Bursledon Car booty. Just one question, ever heard of the term "Sarcasm" ?

See, no matter how bad things look from the outside looking in, us Saints fans always end up with a smile on our faces, especially after we smash the scousers on the 1st day of the season! COYS

See, no matter how bad things look from the outside looking in, us Saints fans always end up with a smile on our faces, especially after we smash the scousers on the 1st day of the season!
COYSSaintAsh1964

See, no matter how bad things look from the outside looking in, us Saints fans always end up with a smile on our faces, especially after we smash the scousers on the 1st day of the season! COYS

Score: 13

OSPREYSAINT says...10:29am Thu 3 Jul 14

Look on the bright side, none of the players we have brought in so far is a prima donna type using us a stepping stone.............

Look on the bright side, none of the players we have brought in so far is a prima donna type using us a stepping stone.............OSPREYSAINT

Look on the bright side, none of the players we have brought in so far is a prima donna type using us a stepping stone.............

Score: 4

Jan28th1984 says...10:45am Thu 3 Jul 14

SaintAsh1964 wrote…

See, no matter how bad things look from the outside looking in, us Saints fans always end up with a smile on our faces, especially after we smash the scousers on the 1st day of the season! COYS

Yeah, totally agree, should have offered £12m and worked backwards and looked even more stupid!

I'm not totally convinced you are aware of how negotiations work. A first offer of more than what the player is worth is going to make the selling club think they can get even more from us. It is unlikely they will turn around and say "No, no that's too much offer us less." An offer of way below the player's value, as in our initial offer, is likely to be rejected out of hand and regarded by the selling club as displaying a lack of respect to them and to the player. Do you remember when Terry Vegetables offered £400k for Razor Ruddock when we valued him at £2m? It went to tribunal and Ruddock went for £750k. Spurs then valued him 12 months later at £4m when he went to Liverpool. That was Spurs demonstrating a lack of respect to us, and is similar to us making a disrespectful offer to Feyenoord. Hope that helps.

Yeah? no sh1t sherlock, learn something new everyday eh! Must remember your wise word when I'm next down at Bursledon Car booty. Just one question, ever heard of the term "Sarcasm" ?

Yes, it's the lowest form of wit. Have a lovely day.

And is all so considered the highest form of intelligence

[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote:
Saints..... oh dear oh dear oh dear..... £3M initial offer just makes us look stupid..... :-([/p][/quote]Dead right - there's haggling and there's taking the p!ss.[/p][/quote]Yeah, totally agree, should have offered £12m and worked backwards and looked even more stupid![/p][/quote]I'm not totally convinced you are aware of how negotiations work.
A first offer of more than what the player is worth is going to make the selling club think they can get even more from us. It is unlikely they will turn around and say "No, no that's too much offer us less."
An offer of way below the player's value, as in our initial offer, is likely to be rejected out of hand and regarded by the selling club as displaying a lack of respect to them and to the player.
Do you remember when Terry Vegetables offered £400k for Razor Ruddock when we valued him at £2m? It went to tribunal and Ruddock went for £750k. Spurs then valued him 12 months later at £4m when he went to Liverpool.
That was Spurs demonstrating a lack of respect to us, and is similar to us making a disrespectful offer to Feyenoord.
Hope that helps.[/p][/quote]Yeah? no sh1t sherlock, learn something new everyday eh!
Must remember your wise word when I'm next down at Bursledon Car booty.
Just one question, ever heard of the term "Sarcasm" ?[/p][/quote]Yes, it's the lowest form of wit.
Have a lovely day.[/p][/quote]And is all so considered the highest form of intelligenceyellowcard

Yeah, totally agree, should have offered £12m and worked backwards and looked even more stupid!

I'm not totally convinced you are aware of how negotiations work. A first offer of more than what the player is worth is going to make the selling club think they can get even more from us. It is unlikely they will turn around and say "No, no that's too much offer us less." An offer of way below the player's value, as in our initial offer, is likely to be rejected out of hand and regarded by the selling club as displaying a lack of respect to them and to the player. Do you remember when Terry Vegetables offered £400k for Razor Ruddock when we valued him at £2m? It went to tribunal and Ruddock went for £750k. Spurs then valued him 12 months later at £4m when he went to Liverpool. That was Spurs demonstrating a lack of respect to us, and is similar to us making a disrespectful offer to Feyenoord. Hope that helps.

Yeah? no sh1t sherlock, learn something new everyday eh! Must remember your wise word when I'm next down at Bursledon Car booty. Just one question, ever heard of the term "Sarcasm" ?

Yeah, totally agree, should have offered £12m and worked backwards and looked even more stupid!

I'm not totally convinced you are aware of how negotiations work. A first offer of more than what the player is worth is going to make the selling club think they can get even more from us. It is unlikely they will turn around and say "No, no that's too much offer us less." An offer of way below the player's value, as in our initial offer, is likely to be rejected out of hand and regarded by the selling club as displaying a lack of respect to them and to the player. Do you remember when Terry Vegetables offered £400k for Razor Ruddock when we valued him at £2m? It went to tribunal and Ruddock went for £750k. Spurs then valued him 12 months later at £4m when he went to Liverpool. That was Spurs demonstrating a lack of respect to us, and is similar to us making a disrespectful offer to Feyenoord. Hope that helps.

Yeah? no sh1t sherlock, learn something new everyday eh! Must remember your wise word when I'm next down at Bursledon Car booty. Just one question, ever heard of the term "Sarcasm" ?

Yes, it's the lowest form of wit. Have a lovely day.

And is all so considered the highest form of intelligence

I'm claiming that one then! COYS

[quote][p][bold]yellowcard[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote:
Saints..... oh dear oh dear oh dear..... £3M initial offer just makes us look stupid..... :-([/p][/quote]Dead right - there's haggling and there's taking the p!ss.[/p][/quote]Yeah, totally agree, should have offered £12m and worked backwards and looked even more stupid![/p][/quote]I'm not totally convinced you are aware of how negotiations work.
A first offer of more than what the player is worth is going to make the selling club think they can get even more from us. It is unlikely they will turn around and say "No, no that's too much offer us less."
An offer of way below the player's value, as in our initial offer, is likely to be rejected out of hand and regarded by the selling club as displaying a lack of respect to them and to the player.
Do you remember when Terry Vegetables offered £400k for Razor Ruddock when we valued him at £2m? It went to tribunal and Ruddock went for £750k. Spurs then valued him 12 months later at £4m when he went to Liverpool.
That was Spurs demonstrating a lack of respect to us, and is similar to us making a disrespectful offer to Feyenoord.
Hope that helps.[/p][/quote]Yeah? no sh1t sherlock, learn something new everyday eh!
Must remember your wise word when I'm next down at Bursledon Car booty.
Just one question, ever heard of the term "Sarcasm" ?[/p][/quote]Yes, it's the lowest form of wit.
Have a lovely day.[/p][/quote]And is all so considered the highest form of intelligence[/p][/quote]I'm claiming that one then!
COYSSaintAsh1964

Yeah, totally agree, should have offered £12m and worked backwards and looked even more stupid!

I'm not totally convinced you are aware of how negotiations work. A first offer of more than what the player is worth is going to make the selling club think they can get even more from us. It is unlikely they will turn around and say "No, no that's too much offer us less." An offer of way below the player's value, as in our initial offer, is likely to be rejected out of hand and regarded by the selling club as displaying a lack of respect to them and to the player. Do you remember when Terry Vegetables offered £400k for Razor Ruddock when we valued him at £2m? It went to tribunal and Ruddock went for £750k. Spurs then valued him 12 months later at £4m when he went to Liverpool. That was Spurs demonstrating a lack of respect to us, and is similar to us making a disrespectful offer to Feyenoord. Hope that helps.

Yeah? no sh1t sherlock, learn something new everyday eh! Must remember your wise word when I'm next down at Bursledon Car booty. Just one question, ever heard of the term "Sarcasm" ?

Yeah, totally agree, should have offered £12m and worked backwards and looked even more stupid!

I'm not totally convinced you are aware of how negotiations work. A first offer of more than what the player is worth is going to make the selling club think they can get even more from us. It is unlikely they will turn around and say "No, no that's too much offer us less." An offer of way below the player's value, as in our initial offer, is likely to be rejected out of hand and regarded by the selling club as displaying a lack of respect to them and to the player. Do you remember when Terry Vegetables offered £400k for Razor Ruddock when we valued him at £2m? It went to tribunal and Ruddock went for £750k. Spurs then valued him 12 months later at £4m when he went to Liverpool. That was Spurs demonstrating a lack of respect to us, and is similar to us making a disrespectful offer to Feyenoord. Hope that helps.

Yeah? no sh1t sherlock, learn something new everyday eh! Must remember your wise word when I'm next down at Bursledon Car booty. Just one question, ever heard of the term "Sarcasm" ?

Yes, it's the lowest form of wit. Have a lovely day.

And is all so considered the highest form of intelligence

I'm claiming that one then! COYS

:-)

[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]yellowcard[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote:
Saints..... oh dear oh dear oh dear..... £3M initial offer just makes us look stupid..... :-([/p][/quote]Dead right - there's haggling and there's taking the p!ss.[/p][/quote]Yeah, totally agree, should have offered £12m and worked backwards and looked even more stupid![/p][/quote]I'm not totally convinced you are aware of how negotiations work.
A first offer of more than what the player is worth is going to make the selling club think they can get even more from us. It is unlikely they will turn around and say "No, no that's too much offer us less."
An offer of way below the player's value, as in our initial offer, is likely to be rejected out of hand and regarded by the selling club as displaying a lack of respect to them and to the player.
Do you remember when Terry Vegetables offered £400k for Razor Ruddock when we valued him at £2m? It went to tribunal and Ruddock went for £750k. Spurs then valued him 12 months later at £4m when he went to Liverpool.
That was Spurs demonstrating a lack of respect to us, and is similar to us making a disrespectful offer to Feyenoord.
Hope that helps.[/p][/quote]Yeah? no sh1t sherlock, learn something new everyday eh!
Must remember your wise word when I'm next down at Bursledon Car booty.
Just one question, ever heard of the term "Sarcasm" ?[/p][/quote]Yes, it's the lowest form of wit.
Have a lovely day.[/p][/quote]And is all so considered the highest form of intelligence[/p][/quote]I'm claiming that one then!
COYS[/p][/quote]:-)Jan28th1984

Yeah, totally agree, should have offered £12m and worked backwards and looked even more stupid!

I'm not totally convinced you are aware of how negotiations work. A first offer of more than what the player is worth is going to make the selling club think they can get even more from us. It is unlikely they will turn around and say "No, no that's too much offer us less." An offer of way below the player's value, as in our initial offer, is likely to be rejected out of hand and regarded by the selling club as displaying a lack of respect to them and to the player. Do you remember when Terry Vegetables offered £400k for Razor Ruddock when we valued him at £2m? It went to tribunal and Ruddock went for £750k. Spurs then valued him 12 months later at £4m when he went to Liverpool. That was Spurs demonstrating a lack of respect to us, and is similar to us making a disrespectful offer to Feyenoord. Hope that helps.

Yeah? no sh1t sherlock, learn something new everyday eh! Must remember your wise word when I'm next down at Bursledon Car booty. Just one question, ever heard of the term "Sarcasm" ?

Yes, it's the lowest form of wit. Have a lovely day.

And is all so considered the highest form of intelligence

I'm claiming that one then! COYS

:-)

Score: 1

Jan28th1984 says...11:13am Thu 3 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT wrote…

Barca have said that Messi is definitely not for sale, we will have to look elsewhere I am sorry to say.

Curses!

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Barca have said that Messi is definitely not for sale, we will have to look elsewhere I am sorry to say.[/p][/quote]Curses!Jan28th1984

OSPREYSAINT wrote…

Barca have said that Messi is definitely not for sale, we will have to look elsewhere I am sorry to say.

Curses!

Score: 1

costa gaz says...11:15am Thu 3 Jul 14

Liverpool have just bid an undisclosed sum for Southampton's new LED floodlight system. Liverpool are said to be doing this as a sympathetic gesture so that when the last person leaves, there will be no lights to actually turn off. Les reed stated that there has been no offer for the LED lights, but if there was he would have to consider the offer, even though they are definitely not for sale. LED lighting system was unavailable for comment, but a source said the opportunity to light up a Wednesday night champions league game would be difficult to refuse for LED.

Liverpool have just bid an undisclosed sum for Southampton's new LED floodlight system.
Liverpool are said to be doing this as a sympathetic gesture so that when the last person leaves, there will be no lights to actually turn off.
Les reed stated that there has been no offer for the LED lights, but if there was he would have to consider the offer, even though they are definitely not for sale.
LED lighting system was unavailable for comment, but a source said the opportunity to light up a Wednesday night champions league game would be difficult to refuse for LED.costa gaz

Liverpool have just bid an undisclosed sum for Southampton's new LED floodlight system. Liverpool are said to be doing this as a sympathetic gesture so that when the last person leaves, there will be no lights to actually turn off. Les reed stated that there has been no offer for the LED lights, but if there was he would have to consider the offer, even though they are definitely not for sale. LED lighting system was unavailable for comment, but a source said the opportunity to light up a Wednesday night champions league game would be difficult to refuse for LED.

Score: 109

warrens 76 says...11:18am Thu 3 Jul 14

We are 'linked' with two players whilst already losing three plus a manager, plus there more are 'linked' elsewhere…so we are 4-0 down but have had two almosts against another three almosts against us…..

We are 'linked' with two players whilst already losing three plus a manager, plus there more are 'linked' elsewhere…so we are 4-0 down but have had two almosts against another three almosts against us…..warrens 76

We are 'linked' with two players whilst already losing three plus a manager, plus there more are 'linked' elsewhere…so we are 4-0 down but have had two almosts against another three almosts against us…..

Score: 5

costa gaz says...11:24am Thu 3 Jul 14

warrens 76 wrote…

We are 'linked' with two players whilst already losing three plus a manager, plus there more are 'linked' elsewhere…so we are 4-0 down but have had two almosts against another three almosts against us…..

it's 4-1 warrens, koeman was a goal for the happy clappers.

[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote:
We are 'linked' with two players whilst already losing three plus a manager, plus there more are 'linked' elsewhere…so we are 4-0 down but have had two almosts against another three almosts against us…..[/p][/quote]it's 4-1 warrens, koeman was a goal for the happy clappers.costa gaz

warrens 76 wrote…

We are 'linked' with two players whilst already losing three plus a manager, plus there more are 'linked' elsewhere…so we are 4-0 down but have had two almosts against another three almosts against us…..

it's 4-1 warrens, koeman was a goal for the happy clappers.

Score: 2

warrens 76 says...11:29am Thu 3 Jul 14

costa gaz wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

We are 'linked' with two players whilst already losing three plus a manager, plus there more are 'linked' elsewhere…so we are 4-0 down but have had two almosts against another three almosts against us…..

it's 4-1 warrens, koeman was a goal for the happy clappers.

Knew that after I posted, 8ugger.

[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote:
We are 'linked' with two players whilst already losing three plus a manager, plus there more are 'linked' elsewhere…so we are 4-0 down but have had two almosts against another three almosts against us…..[/p][/quote]it's 4-1 warrens, koeman was a goal for the happy clappers.[/p][/quote]Knew that after I posted, 8ugger.warrens 76

costa gaz wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

We are 'linked' with two players whilst already losing three plus a manager, plus there more are 'linked' elsewhere…so we are 4-0 down but have had two almosts against another three almosts against us…..

it's 4-1 warrens, koeman was a goal for the happy clappers.

Knew that after I posted, 8ugger.

Score: 0

Rupert Lowe's Backside says...11:33am Thu 3 Jul 14

costa gaz wrote…

Liverpool have just bid an undisclosed sum for Southampton's new LED floodlight system. Liverpool are said to be doing this as a sympathetic gesture so that when the last person leaves, there will be no lights to actually turn off. Les reed stated that there has been no offer for the LED lights, but if there was he would have to consider the offer, even though they are definitely not for sale. LED lighting system was unavailable for comment, but a source said the opportunity to light up a Wednesday night champions league game would be difficult to refuse for LED.

Funniest thing Ive read...chin up Costa! Prof Brian Cox was pondering the universe, and all the stars within it and was heard to say: "Things can only get better!"

[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote:
Liverpool have just bid an undisclosed sum for Southampton's new LED floodlight system.
Liverpool are said to be doing this as a sympathetic gesture so that when the last person leaves, there will be no lights to actually turn off.
Les reed stated that there has been no offer for the LED lights, but if there was he would have to consider the offer, even though they are definitely not for sale.
LED lighting system was unavailable for comment, but a source said the opportunity to light up a Wednesday night champions league game would be difficult to refuse for LED.[/p][/quote]Funniest thing Ive read...chin up Costa!
Prof Brian Cox was pondering the universe, and all the stars within it and was heard to say:
"Things can only get better!"Rupert Lowe's Backside

costa gaz wrote…

Liverpool have just bid an undisclosed sum for Southampton's new LED floodlight system. Liverpool are said to be doing this as a sympathetic gesture so that when the last person leaves, there will be no lights to actually turn off. Les reed stated that there has been no offer for the LED lights, but if there was he would have to consider the offer, even though they are definitely not for sale. LED lighting system was unavailable for comment, but a source said the opportunity to light up a Wednesday night champions league game would be difficult to refuse for LED.

Funniest thing Ive read...chin up Costa! Prof Brian Cox was pondering the universe, and all the stars within it and was heard to say: "Things can only get better!"

Score: 3

deepheat says...11:41am Thu 3 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT wrote…

Barca have said that Messi is definitely not for sale, we will have to look elsewhere I am sorry to say.

Oh I wouldn't be too sure about that Ospo mate. A mate of mine who has it on very good authority from a neighbour of his who once got an autograph off of Sammy Lee reckons we are close to agreeing a deal. We can have Messi in part ex for Osvaldo and a Council House in Totton.

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Barca have said that Messi is definitely not for sale, we will have to look elsewhere I am sorry to say.[/p][/quote]Oh I wouldn't be too sure about that Ospo mate.
A mate of mine who has it on very good authority from a neighbour of his who once got an autograph off of Sammy Lee reckons we are close to agreeing a deal. We can have Messi in part ex for Osvaldo and a Council House in Totton.deepheat

OSPREYSAINT wrote…

Barca have said that Messi is definitely not for sale, we will have to look elsewhere I am sorry to say.

Oh I wouldn't be too sure about that Ospo mate. A mate of mine who has it on very good authority from a neighbour of his who once got an autograph off of Sammy Lee reckons we are close to agreeing a deal. We can have Messi in part ex for Osvaldo and a Council House in Totton.

Yeah, totally agree, should have offered £12m and worked backwards and looked even more stupid!

I'm not totally convinced you are aware of how negotiations work. A first offer of more than what the player is worth is going to make the selling club think they can get even more from us. It is unlikely they will turn around and say "No, no that's too much offer us less." An offer of way below the player's value, as in our initial offer, is likely to be rejected out of hand and regarded by the selling club as displaying a lack of respect to them and to the player. Do you remember when Terry Vegetables offered £400k for Razor Ruddock when we valued him at £2m? It went to tribunal and Ruddock went for £750k. Spurs then valued him 12 months later at £4m when he went to Liverpool. That was Spurs demonstrating a lack of respect to us, and is similar to us making a disrespectful offer to Feyenoord. Hope that helps.

Yeah? no sh1t sherlock, learn something new everyday eh! Must remember your wise word when I'm next down at Bursledon Car booty. Just one question, ever heard of the term "Sarcasm" ?

Yes, it's the lowest form of wit. Have a lovely day.

I don't thing respec' comes into it. These are grown up commercial organisations we're talking about, not a bunch of street corner gangsta dope dealers. As the thrust of most of the threads over the last few days suggests, it's all a matter of how much the buyer has, how much the seller wants and how easily can the difference be negotiated away.

[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote:
Saints..... oh dear oh dear oh dear..... £3M initial offer just makes us look stupid..... :-([/p][/quote]Dead right - there's haggling and there's taking the p!ss.[/p][/quote]Yeah, totally agree, should have offered £12m and worked backwards and looked even more stupid![/p][/quote]I'm not totally convinced you are aware of how negotiations work.
A first offer of more than what the player is worth is going to make the selling club think they can get even more from us. It is unlikely they will turn around and say "No, no that's too much offer us less."
An offer of way below the player's value, as in our initial offer, is likely to be rejected out of hand and regarded by the selling club as displaying a lack of respect to them and to the player.
Do you remember when Terry Vegetables offered £400k for Razor Ruddock when we valued him at £2m? It went to tribunal and Ruddock went for £750k. Spurs then valued him 12 months later at £4m when he went to Liverpool.
That was Spurs demonstrating a lack of respect to us, and is similar to us making a disrespectful offer to Feyenoord.
Hope that helps.[/p][/quote]Yeah? no sh1t sherlock, learn something new everyday eh!
Must remember your wise word when I'm next down at Bursledon Car booty.
Just one question, ever heard of the term "Sarcasm" ?[/p][/quote]Yes, it's the lowest form of wit.
Have a lovely day.[/p][/quote]I don't thing respec' comes into it. These are grown up commercial organisations we're talking about, not a bunch of street corner gangsta dope dealers. As the thrust of most of the threads over the last few days suggests, it's all a matter of how much the buyer has, how much the seller wants and how easily can the difference be negotiated away.InsideOutCat

Yeah, totally agree, should have offered £12m and worked backwards and looked even more stupid!

I'm not totally convinced you are aware of how negotiations work. A first offer of more than what the player is worth is going to make the selling club think they can get even more from us. It is unlikely they will turn around and say "No, no that's too much offer us less." An offer of way below the player's value, as in our initial offer, is likely to be rejected out of hand and regarded by the selling club as displaying a lack of respect to them and to the player. Do you remember when Terry Vegetables offered £400k for Razor Ruddock when we valued him at £2m? It went to tribunal and Ruddock went for £750k. Spurs then valued him 12 months later at £4m when he went to Liverpool. That was Spurs demonstrating a lack of respect to us, and is similar to us making a disrespectful offer to Feyenoord. Hope that helps.

Yeah? no sh1t sherlock, learn something new everyday eh! Must remember your wise word when I'm next down at Bursledon Car booty. Just one question, ever heard of the term "Sarcasm" ?

Yes, it's the lowest form of wit. Have a lovely day.

I don't thing respec' comes into it. These are grown up commercial organisations we're talking about, not a bunch of street corner gangsta dope dealers. As the thrust of most of the threads over the last few days suggests, it's all a matter of how much the buyer has, how much the seller wants and how easily can the difference be negotiated away.

Score: 1

hekissedthebadge says...12:11pm Thu 3 Jul 14

He kissed the badge then he left, Mark clattingburg's right, adam lallana yourfull of sh***

He kissed the badge then he left, Mark clattingburg's right, adam lallana yourfull of sh***hekissedthebadge

He kissed the badge then he left, Mark clattingburg's right, adam lallana yourfull of sh***

Score: 2

allsaintsnocurves says...12:29pm Thu 3 Jul 14

In the end if the players want to come to Saints then we are in a strong negotiating position like the ones looking to leave us. The reason we tie them to long contracts is so that we can secure the best deals should they be sold. Pelle only has 1 year left so we will be able to get him for less.

In the end if the players want to come to Saints then we are in a strong negotiating position like the ones looking to leave us. The reason we tie them to long contracts is so that we can secure the best deals should they be sold. Pelle only has 1 year left so we will be able to get him for less.allsaintsnocurves

In the end if the players want to come to Saints then we are in a strong negotiating position like the ones looking to leave us. The reason we tie them to long contracts is so that we can secure the best deals should they be sold. Pelle only has 1 year left so we will be able to get him for less.

Score: 4

SouthamptonLegend says...12:34pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote…

Trouble is we are doing our transfer business the wrong way round. Every selling club knows a) we are desperate to sign players b) we have a large pile of cash

It's not possible to sign replacements until the want-away players leave though... A) What are we going to buy them with? B) You don't know 100% who we're going to have to replace! If anyone is to blame for no transfers coming in it's MoPo. All those weeks it took to bring in the new manager would have been spent negotiating transfers.

[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
Trouble is we are doing our transfer business the wrong way round. Every selling club knows a) we are desperate to sign players b) we have a large pile of cash[/p][/quote]It's not possible to sign replacements until the want-away players leave though...
A) What are we going to buy them with?
B) You don't know 100% who we're going to have to replace!
If anyone is to blame for no transfers coming in it's MoPo. All those weeks it took to bring in the new manager would have been spent negotiating transfers.SouthamptonLegend

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote…

Trouble is we are doing our transfer business the wrong way round. Every selling club knows a) we are desperate to sign players b) we have a large pile of cash

It's not possible to sign replacements until the want-away players leave though... A) What are we going to buy them with? B) You don't know 100% who we're going to have to replace! If anyone is to blame for no transfers coming in it's MoPo. All those weeks it took to bring in the new manager would have been spent negotiating transfers.

Score: 2

Kamawoop says...12:36pm Thu 3 Jul 14

I hope most of the Lalla haters are simply keyboard cowboys and he gets a good reception on return. He showed plenty of loyalty over the years, when was covetted by Spurs and others and we where in lower divisions. I for one will applaud Adam if not the others. Excited by Koeman, but my choice would have been to get NA back. I reckon he would have welcomed it, didn't leave under a cloud and his only gripes would have been with NC. We progressed under Poch, but first season record was no better than for NA's games. All ifs, buts, maybes, but will never know what progress would have been made if NA stayed (had been steady up to then, no reason to think couldn't have continued). It seems like would have been our only chance of keeping this squad together.

I hope most of the Lalla haters are simply keyboard cowboys and he gets a good reception on return. He showed plenty of loyalty over the years, when was covetted by Spurs and others and we where in lower divisions. I for one will applaud Adam if not the others.
Excited by Koeman, but my choice would have been to get NA back. I reckon he would have welcomed it, didn't leave under a cloud and his only gripes would have been with NC. We progressed under Poch, but first season record was no better than for NA's games. All ifs, buts, maybes, but will never know what progress would have been made if NA stayed (had been steady up to then, no reason to think couldn't have continued). It seems like would have been our only chance of keeping this squad together.Kamawoop

I hope most of the Lalla haters are simply keyboard cowboys and he gets a good reception on return. He showed plenty of loyalty over the years, when was covetted by Spurs and others and we where in lower divisions. I for one will applaud Adam if not the others. Excited by Koeman, but my choice would have been to get NA back. I reckon he would have welcomed it, didn't leave under a cloud and his only gripes would have been with NC. We progressed under Poch, but first season record was no better than for NA's games. All ifs, buts, maybes, but will never know what progress would have been made if NA stayed (had been steady up to then, no reason to think couldn't have continued). It seems like would have been our only chance of keeping this squad together.

Score: -16

Kamawoop says...12:44pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Ooops, wrong thread. Pelle sounds good, sign him up! But so did that Brazilian guy from Dutch league a couple of years ago, whose name I can't remember and went to a club I forget.

Ooops, wrong thread. Pelle sounds good, sign him up! But so did that Brazilian guy from Dutch league a couple of years ago, whose name I can't remember and went to a club I forget.Kamawoop

Ooops, wrong thread. Pelle sounds good, sign him up! But so did that Brazilian guy from Dutch league a couple of years ago, whose name I can't remember and went to a club I forget.

Score: -1

steekeemcglue says...1:16pm Thu 3 Jul 14

we just look stupid offering £3M..... I am all for pitching in low but that was just an insult to their intelligence.... it sends a signal that we are for the taking.... if we jump from £3M to £6M then why not from £6M to £9M !? staggeringly poor piece of negotiation if true....

we just look stupid offering £3M..... I am all for pitching in low but that was just an insult to their intelligence.... it sends a signal that we are for the taking.... if we jump from £3M to £6M then why not from £6M to £9M !? staggeringly poor piece of negotiation if true....steekeemcglue

we just look stupid offering £3M..... I am all for pitching in low but that was just an insult to their intelligence.... it sends a signal that we are for the taking.... if we jump from £3M to £6M then why not from £6M to £9M !? staggeringly poor piece of negotiation if true....

Score: -4

justaSaintsfan says...1:30pm Thu 3 Jul 14

costa gaz wrote…

Liverpool have just bid an undisclosed sum for Southampton's new LED floodlight system. Liverpool are said to be doing this as a sympathetic gesture so that when the last person leaves, there will be no lights to actually turn off. Les reed stated that there has been no offer for the LED lights, but if there was he would have to consider the offer, even though they are definitely not for sale. LED lighting system was unavailable for comment, but a source said the opportunity to light up a Wednesday night champions league game would be difficult to refuse for LED.

Do you mean difficult to RE-FUSE?

[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote:
Liverpool have just bid an undisclosed sum for Southampton's new LED floodlight system.
Liverpool are said to be doing this as a sympathetic gesture so that when the last person leaves, there will be no lights to actually turn off.
Les reed stated that there has been no offer for the LED lights, but if there was he would have to consider the offer, even though they are definitely not for sale.
LED lighting system was unavailable for comment, but a source said the opportunity to light up a Wednesday night champions league game would be difficult to refuse for LED.[/p][/quote]Do you mean difficult to RE-FUSE?justaSaintsfan

costa gaz wrote…

Liverpool have just bid an undisclosed sum for Southampton's new LED floodlight system. Liverpool are said to be doing this as a sympathetic gesture so that when the last person leaves, there will be no lights to actually turn off. Les reed stated that there has been no offer for the LED lights, but if there was he would have to consider the offer, even though they are definitely not for sale. LED lighting system was unavailable for comment, but a source said the opportunity to light up a Wednesday night champions league game would be difficult to refuse for LED.

Do you mean difficult to RE-FUSE?

Score: 1

NC Fan4Life says...1:33pm Thu 3 Jul 14

allsaintsnocurves wrote…

In the end if the players want to come to Saints then we are in a strong negotiating position like the ones looking to leave us. The reason we tie them to long contracts is so that we can secure the best deals should they be sold. Pelle only has 1 year left so we will be able to get him for less.

Agreed which maybe was Nicola's plan in case we didn't qualify for the Champions League he promised them, then at least we would get top value for them. However something is going on behind the scenes, why is it that all our best players want to leave this summer ? We could do with an answer to this but unlikely to get one from anywhere. It seems that it is a case of one out - all out ! but not sure if Nicola, MoPo or maybe both set the players off on this. It could be that the new board failed to see this and did too little to stop it or 'nip it in the bud'. If Lovern & Morgan (plus possibly others) also go then I don't ever remember any team loosing most of its best players after having a good season. With the players on long contracts why are the board selling them before they have met the new manager AND before any new players arrive. Potential players will be concerned about joining a club selling 5 or 6 of its best players and their clubs will want more for them knowing that Saints have plenty of money and desperate for players. I think the new board have failed to be proactive and not tough enough so far with regards to the players. So now they have made good managerial appointments they really need to make an impact with top quality new signings. It seems Lovern, like Osvaldo is going to force the issue, but it is now imperative to stop the departures there. We must keep Morgan & make him captain and sign the 4 replacements plus at least 2 of the four additions asap in order to find a settled team. We had been fortunate with the fixtures so need to hit the ground running, if not then we will be in a relegation fight trying to settle a new team. Not pushing on as the board said we would be !! COYS

[quote][p][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote:
In the end if the players want to come to Saints then we are in a strong negotiating position like the ones looking to leave us. The reason we tie them to long contracts is so that we can secure the best deals should they be sold. Pelle only has 1 year left so we will be able to get him for less.[/p][/quote]Agreed which maybe was Nicola's plan in case we didn't qualify for the Champions League he promised them, then at least we would get top value for them.
However something is going on behind the scenes, why is it that all our best players want to leave this summer ? We could do with an answer to this but unlikely to get one from anywhere. It seems that it is a case of one out - all out ! but not sure if Nicola, MoPo or maybe both set the players off on this.
It could be that the new board failed to see this and did too little to stop it or 'nip it in the bud'. If Lovern & Morgan (plus possibly others) also go then I don't ever remember any team loosing most of its best players after having a good season.
With the players on long contracts why are the board selling them before they have met the new manager AND before any new players arrive. Potential players will be concerned about joining a club selling 5 or 6 of its best players and their clubs will want more for them knowing that Saints have plenty of money and desperate for players.
I think the new board have failed to be proactive and not tough enough so far with regards to the players. So now they have made good managerial appointments they really need to make an impact with top quality new signings.
It seems Lovern, like Osvaldo is going to force the issue, but it is now imperative to stop the departures there. We must keep Morgan & make him captain and sign the 4 replacements plus at least 2 of the four additions asap in order to find a settled team.
We had been fortunate with the fixtures so need to hit the ground running, if not then we will be in a relegation fight trying to settle a new team. Not pushing on as the board said we would be !!
COYSNC Fan4Life

allsaintsnocurves wrote…

In the end if the players want to come to Saints then we are in a strong negotiating position like the ones looking to leave us. The reason we tie them to long contracts is so that we can secure the best deals should they be sold. Pelle only has 1 year left so we will be able to get him for less.

Agreed which maybe was Nicola's plan in case we didn't qualify for the Champions League he promised them, then at least we would get top value for them. However something is going on behind the scenes, why is it that all our best players want to leave this summer ? We could do with an answer to this but unlikely to get one from anywhere. It seems that it is a case of one out - all out ! but not sure if Nicola, MoPo or maybe both set the players off on this. It could be that the new board failed to see this and did too little to stop it or 'nip it in the bud'. If Lovern & Morgan (plus possibly others) also go then I don't ever remember any team loosing most of its best players after having a good season. With the players on long contracts why are the board selling them before they have met the new manager AND before any new players arrive. Potential players will be concerned about joining a club selling 5 or 6 of its best players and their clubs will want more for them knowing that Saints have plenty of money and desperate for players. I think the new board have failed to be proactive and not tough enough so far with regards to the players. So now they have made good managerial appointments they really need to make an impact with top quality new signings. It seems Lovern, like Osvaldo is going to force the issue, but it is now imperative to stop the departures there. We must keep Morgan & make him captain and sign the 4 replacements plus at least 2 of the four additions asap in order to find a settled team. We had been fortunate with the fixtures so need to hit the ground running, if not then we will be in a relegation fight trying to settle a new team. Not pushing on as the board said we would be !! COYS

Score: 1

7saint7 says...1:37pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Lets get Graziano & Tadic in asp . And then move on to are next targets. Pre season is here and we need the new boy's gelling well for the start of season. once the Dutch team get back from the world cup im sure we will bring in a few more class players .

Lets get Graziano & Tadic in asp . And then move on to are next targets.
Pre season is here and we need the new boy's gelling well for the start of season.
once the Dutch team get back from the world cup im sure we will bring in a few more class players .7saint7

Lets get Graziano & Tadic in asp . And then move on to are next targets. Pre season is here and we need the new boy's gelling well for the start of season. once the Dutch team get back from the world cup im sure we will bring in a few more class players .

Score: 1

allsaintsnocurves says...1:39pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Saints should be taking the view that if any players are to be sold they are not to be sold to a Premier League team and only abroad! We do not want to be strengthening our competition whilst weakening ourselves. It is hard enough in this division as it is...to break into the top half regularly takes a lot of consistency from teams and I am concerned that we will be a yo-yo side next year with some great wins but more defeats.

Saints should be taking the view that if any players are to be sold they are not to be sold to a Premier League team and only abroad! We do not want to be strengthening our competition whilst weakening ourselves. It is hard enough in this division as it is...to break into the top half regularly takes a lot of consistency from teams and I am concerned that we will be a yo-yo side next year with some great wins but more defeats.allsaintsnocurves

Saints should be taking the view that if any players are to be sold they are not to be sold to a Premier League team and only abroad! We do not want to be strengthening our competition whilst weakening ourselves. It is hard enough in this division as it is...to break into the top half regularly takes a lot of consistency from teams and I am concerned that we will be a yo-yo side next year with some great wins but more defeats.

Score: 5

saintbobby says...3:34pm Thu 3 Jul 14

All this on/off jazz keeps the salt nicely rubbed into our existing wounds. It occurs to me, we are pretty good at getting rid of players but always seems to take an age to get them in. If I remember correctly, did it not take weeks to get Ramirez to sign. Then not brilliant, either. Get a move on, the weeks are ticking by and we should try and get a new team spirit going.

All this on/off jazz keeps the salt nicely rubbed into our existing wounds.
It occurs to me, we are pretty good at getting rid of players but always seems to take an age to get them in. If I remember correctly, did it not take weeks to get Ramirez to sign. Then not brilliant, either.
Get a move on, the weeks are ticking by and we should try and get a new team spirit going.saintbobby

All this on/off jazz keeps the salt nicely rubbed into our existing wounds. It occurs to me, we are pretty good at getting rid of players but always seems to take an age to get them in. If I remember correctly, did it not take weeks to get Ramirez to sign. Then not brilliant, either. Get a move on, the weeks are ticking by and we should try and get a new team spirit going.

Score: 2

costa gaz says...3:41pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Might be good news, apparently Osvaldo has agreed personal terms with Inter Milan and they are now in discussions with Saints over the possible transfer.

Might be good news, apparently Osvaldo has agreed personal terms with Inter Milan and they are now in discussions with Saints over the possible transfer.costa gaz

Might be good news, apparently Osvaldo has agreed personal terms with Inter Milan and they are now in discussions with Saints over the possible transfer.

Score: 2

saintand266 says...3:56pm Thu 3 Jul 14

I just hope that by us offering 3 million for him doesn't backfire. In all fairness its a pretty ludicrous offer and just adds more negative publicity to our club . Hopefully the player doesn't feel that we don't really want him or another club come in and gazump us as it wouldn't be the first time we would miss out on a player because our offer / valuation was a bit off

I just hope that by us offering 3 million for him doesn't backfire. In all fairness its a pretty ludicrous offer and just adds more negative publicity to our club .
Hopefully the player doesn't feel that we don't really want him or another club come in and gazump us as it wouldn't be the first time we would miss out on a player because our offer / valuation was a bit offsaintand266

I just hope that by us offering 3 million for him doesn't backfire. In all fairness its a pretty ludicrous offer and just adds more negative publicity to our club . Hopefully the player doesn't feel that we don't really want him or another club come in and gazump us as it wouldn't be the first time we would miss out on a player because our offer / valuation was a bit off

Score: 0

deepheat says...4:38pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Why not a straight swap we get Graziano Pelle and they can have Dani Osvaldo. Osvaldo would be getting CL football as well.

Why not a straight swap we get Graziano Pelle and they can have Dani Osvaldo. Osvaldo would be getting CL football as well.deepheat

Why not a straight swap we get Graziano Pelle and they can have Dani Osvaldo. Osvaldo would be getting CL football as well.

Score: 3

Jan28th1984 says...4:57pm Thu 3 Jul 14

saintbobby wrote…

All this on/off jazz keeps the salt nicely rubbed into our existing wounds. It occurs to me, we are pretty good at getting rid of players but always seems to take an age to get them in. If I remember correctly, did it not take weeks to get Ramirez to sign. Then not brilliant, either. Get a move on, the weeks are ticking by and we should try and get a new team spirit going.

The general attitude coming from the club at the moment is one of utter incompetence.

[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote:
All this on/off jazz keeps the salt nicely rubbed into our existing wounds.
It occurs to me, we are pretty good at getting rid of players but always seems to take an age to get them in. If I remember correctly, did it not take weeks to get Ramirez to sign. Then not brilliant, either.
Get a move on, the weeks are ticking by and we should try and get a new team spirit going.[/p][/quote]The general attitude coming from the club at the moment is one of utter incompetence.Jan28th1984

saintbobby wrote…

All this on/off jazz keeps the salt nicely rubbed into our existing wounds. It occurs to me, we are pretty good at getting rid of players but always seems to take an age to get them in. If I remember correctly, did it not take weeks to get Ramirez to sign. Then not brilliant, either. Get a move on, the weeks are ticking by and we should try and get a new team spirit going.

The general attitude coming from the club at the moment is one of utter incompetence.

Yeah, totally agree, should have offered £12m and worked backwards and looked even more stupid!

I'm not totally convinced you are aware of how negotiations work. A first offer of more than what the player is worth is going to make the selling club think they can get even more from us. It is unlikely they will turn around and say "No, no that's too much offer us less." An offer of way below the player's value, as in our initial offer, is likely to be rejected out of hand and regarded by the selling club as displaying a lack of respect to them and to the player. Do you remember when Terry Vegetables offered £400k for Razor Ruddock when we valued him at £2m? It went to tribunal and Ruddock went for £750k. Spurs then valued him 12 months later at £4m when he went to Liverpool. That was Spurs demonstrating a lack of respect to us, and is similar to us making a disrespectful offer to Feyenoord. Hope that helps.

I'm not convinced you understand sarcasm!

[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote:
Saints..... oh dear oh dear oh dear..... £3M initial offer just makes us look stupid..... :-([/p][/quote]Dead right - there's haggling and there's taking the p!ss.[/p][/quote]Yeah, totally agree, should have offered £12m and worked backwards and looked even more stupid![/p][/quote]I'm not totally convinced you are aware of how negotiations work.
A first offer of more than what the player is worth is going to make the selling club think they can get even more from us. It is unlikely they will turn around and say "No, no that's too much offer us less."
An offer of way below the player's value, as in our initial offer, is likely to be rejected out of hand and regarded by the selling club as displaying a lack of respect to them and to the player.
Do you remember when Terry Vegetables offered £400k for Razor Ruddock when we valued him at £2m? It went to tribunal and Ruddock went for £750k. Spurs then valued him 12 months later at £4m when he went to Liverpool.
That was Spurs demonstrating a lack of respect to us, and is similar to us making a disrespectful offer to Feyenoord.
Hope that helps.[/p][/quote]I'm not convinced you understand sarcasm!SaintChris46

Yeah, totally agree, should have offered £12m and worked backwards and looked even more stupid!

I'm not totally convinced you are aware of how negotiations work. A first offer of more than what the player is worth is going to make the selling club think they can get even more from us. It is unlikely they will turn around and say "No, no that's too much offer us less." An offer of way below the player's value, as in our initial offer, is likely to be rejected out of hand and regarded by the selling club as displaying a lack of respect to them and to the player. Do you remember when Terry Vegetables offered £400k for Razor Ruddock when we valued him at £2m? It went to tribunal and Ruddock went for £750k. Spurs then valued him 12 months later at £4m when he went to Liverpool. That was Spurs demonstrating a lack of respect to us, and is similar to us making a disrespectful offer to Feyenoord. Hope that helps.

I'm not convinced you understand sarcasm!

Score: 0

Clemster says...5:42pm Thu 3 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT wrote…

Look on the bright side, none of the players we have brought in so far is a prima donna type using us a stepping stone.............

Who have we actually brought in?

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Look on the bright side, none of the players we have brought in so far is a prima donna type using us a stepping stone.............[/p][/quote]Who have we actually brought in?Clemster

OSPREYSAINT wrote…

Look on the bright side, none of the players we have brought in so far is a prima donna type using us a stepping stone.............

Who have we actually brought in?

Score: -1

jls217 says...6:21pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Clemster wrote…

OSPREYSAINT wrote…

Look on the bright side, none of the players we have brought in so far is a prima donna type using us a stepping stone.............

Who have we actually brought in?

Be gentle with him Osprey. On a very very bright note - Rambo has announced through radio Solent that we do not need to spend the Shaw money on a LB as Targett is capable of stepping up - which also means he probably has another youngster he likes or he's relying on Clyne to cover. That's 5-10 mill squids saved then.

[quote][p][bold]Clemster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Look on the bright side, none of the players we have brought in so far is a prima donna type using us a stepping stone.............[/p][/quote]Who have we actually brought in?[/p][/quote]Be gentle with him Osprey.
On a very very bright note - Rambo has announced through radio Solent that we do not need to spend the Shaw money on a LB as Targett is capable of stepping up - which also means he probably has another youngster he likes or he's relying on Clyne to cover.
That's 5-10 mill squids saved then.jls217

Clemster wrote…

OSPREYSAINT wrote…

Look on the bright side, none of the players we have brought in so far is a prima donna type using us a stepping stone.............

Who have we actually brought in?

Be gentle with him Osprey. On a very very bright note - Rambo has announced through radio Solent that we do not need to spend the Shaw money on a LB as Targett is capable of stepping up - which also means he probably has another youngster he likes or he's relying on Clyne to cover. That's 5-10 mill squids saved then.

Score: 0

jls217 says...6:48pm Thu 3 Jul 14

From TalkSport Southampton striker Dani Osvaldo is close to ending his nightmare stay in the Premier League after agreeing personal terms to join Serie A giants Inter Milan. The Italy international is expected to undergo a medical at the San Siro in the coming days and return to Serie A, having initially signed for the Saints from Roma at the beginning of last season. Osvaldo, who scored three goals in 13 appearances for Southampton last term, failed to report back to the club for pre-season training this week and has not featured in the first-team since being suspended for having a training ground fight with team-mate Jose Fonte. The 28-year-old joined Juventus on loan in January but failed to impress for the Serie A champions, as the club decided not to make the deal permanent. Read more at http://talksport.com /football/another-so uthampton-exit-strik er-set-serie-move-14 070399870#lDIS3lPvzT KCUMJK.99

From TalkSport
Southampton striker Dani Osvaldo is close to ending his nightmare stay in the Premier League after agreeing personal terms to join Serie A giants Inter Milan.
The Italy international is expected to undergo a medical at the San Siro in the coming days and return to Serie A, having initially signed for the Saints from Roma at the beginning of last season.
Osvaldo, who scored three goals in 13 appearances for Southampton last term, failed to report back to the club for pre-season training this week and has not featured in the first-team since being suspended for having a training ground fight with team-mate Jose Fonte.
The 28-year-old joined Juventus on loan in January but failed to impress for the Serie A champions, as the club decided not to make the deal permanent.
Read more at http://talksport.com
/football/another-so
uthampton-exit-strik
er-set-serie-move-14
070399870#lDIS3lPvzT
KCUMJK.99jls217

From TalkSport Southampton striker Dani Osvaldo is close to ending his nightmare stay in the Premier League after agreeing personal terms to join Serie A giants Inter Milan. The Italy international is expected to undergo a medical at the San Siro in the coming days and return to Serie A, having initially signed for the Saints from Roma at the beginning of last season. Osvaldo, who scored three goals in 13 appearances for Southampton last term, failed to report back to the club for pre-season training this week and has not featured in the first-team since being suspended for having a training ground fight with team-mate Jose Fonte. The 28-year-old joined Juventus on loan in January but failed to impress for the Serie A champions, as the club decided not to make the deal permanent. Read more at http://talksport.com /football/another-so uthampton-exit-strik er-set-serie-move-14 070399870#lDIS3lPvzT KCUMJK.99

Look on the bright side, none of the players we have brought in so far is a prima donna type using us a stepping stone.............

Who have we actually brought in?

That was my point.............

[quote][p][bold]Clemster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Look on the bright side, none of the players we have brought in so far is a prima donna type using us a stepping stone.............[/p][/quote]Who have we actually brought in?[/p][/quote]That was my point.............OSPREYSAINT

Clemster wrote…

OSPREYSAINT wrote…

Look on the bright side, none of the players we have brought in so far is a prima donna type using us a stepping stone.............

Who have we actually brought in?

That was my point.............

Score: 6

OSPREYSAINT says...10:07pm Thu 3 Jul 14

search for truth wrote…

If you don't start getting players in you won't be able to field a full team next season. Everybody is signing players, your board are so slow all the good ones will be gone by the time you get around to it. Liverpool FC confirm £10million swoop for Emre Can • Jul 03, 2014 15:08 Bayer Leverkusen midfielder seals Anfield switch Liverpool FC have confirmed the £10million signing of midfielder Emre Can from Bayer Leverkusen. The Reds met the release clause in the 20-year-old’s contract last month and now the transfer has been completed. Can said: “I am proud to be a part of the family and I am looking forward to playing here. I will give it my best. “LFC is a great club and the fans are amongst the best in the world. I am looking forward to the first game and can’t wait to step on the pitch for the first time at Anfield.” Can is the Reds’ third signing of the summer following the capture of Rickie Lambert and Adam Lallana from Southampton. He scored three goals in 29 league appearances for Leverkusen last season.

You have so many good players, how do plan to keep them all happy when they realise the benches are getting harder and harder?

[quote][p][bold]search for truth[/bold] wrote:
If you don't start getting players in you won't be able to field a full team next season. Everybody is signing players, your board are so slow all the good ones will be gone by the time you get around to it.
Liverpool FC confirm £10million swoop for Emre Can
• Jul 03, 2014 15:08
Bayer Leverkusen midfielder seals Anfield switch
Liverpool FC have confirmed the £10million signing of midfielder Emre Can from Bayer Leverkusen.
The Reds met the release clause in the 20-year-old’s contract last month and now the transfer has been completed.
Can said: “I am proud to be a part of the family and I am looking forward to playing here. I will give it my best.
“LFC is a great club and the fans are amongst the best in the world. I am looking forward to the first game and can’t wait to step on the pitch for the first time at Anfield.”
Can is the Reds’ third signing of the summer following the capture of Rickie Lambert and Adam Lallana from Southampton. He scored three goals in 29 league appearances for Leverkusen last season.[/p][/quote]You have so many good players, how do plan to keep them all happy when they realise the benches are getting harder and harder?OSPREYSAINT

search for truth wrote…

If you don't start getting players in you won't be able to field a full team next season. Everybody is signing players, your board are so slow all the good ones will be gone by the time you get around to it. Liverpool FC confirm £10million swoop for Emre Can • Jul 03, 2014 15:08 Bayer Leverkusen midfielder seals Anfield switch Liverpool FC have confirmed the £10million signing of midfielder Emre Can from Bayer Leverkusen. The Reds met the release clause in the 20-year-old’s contract last month and now the transfer has been completed. Can said: “I am proud to be a part of the family and I am looking forward to playing here. I will give it my best. “LFC is a great club and the fans are amongst the best in the world. I am looking forward to the first game and can’t wait to step on the pitch for the first time at Anfield.” Can is the Reds’ third signing of the summer following the capture of Rickie Lambert and Adam Lallana from Southampton. He scored three goals in 29 league appearances for Leverkusen last season.

You have so many good players, how do plan to keep them all happy when they realise the benches are getting harder and harder?

Just watched the clip, he looks pretty good. Great with ball at his feet on the run, very fast and delivering some decent crosses. Not bad at scoring and free kicks too! Wonder how much?

[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote:
http://hereisthecity
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Have a butchers - looks promising.[/p][/quote]Just watched the clip, he looks pretty good. Great with ball at his feet on the run, very fast and delivering some decent crosses. Not bad at scoring and free kicks too! Wonder how much?saintjon127

Just watched the clip, he looks pretty good. Great with ball at his feet on the run, very fast and delivering some decent crosses. Not bad at scoring and free kicks too! Wonder how much?

Score: 1

noodlesnewman says...10:57pm Thu 3 Jul 14

search for truth wrote…

If you don't start getting players in you won't be able to field a full team next season. Everybody is signing players, your board are so slow all the good ones will be gone by the time you get around to it. Liverpool FC confirm £10million swoop for Emre Can • Jul 03, 2014 15:08 Bayer Leverkusen midfielder seals Anfield switch Liverpool FC have confirmed the £10million signing of midfielder Emre Can from Bayer Leverkusen. The Reds met the release clause in the 20-year-old’s contract last month and now the transfer has been completed. Can said: “I am proud to be a part of the family and I am looking forward to playing here. I will give it my best. “LFC is a great club and the fans are amongst the best in the world. I am looking forward to the first game and can’t wait to step on the pitch for the first time at Anfield.” Can is the Reds’ third signing of the summer following the capture of Rickie Lambert and Adam Lallana from Southampton. He scored three goals in 29 league appearances for Leverkusen last season.

shell suit ! suarez gone liverpool in big trouble ! he s irraplaceable all the GOOD strikers gone , to big succesfull teams ! and as usual lfc would of wasted a whole lot of money we saw you mugs coming for lama ! lol our most subbed player last season ! that doesnt happen to world class players , cant wait to see you crash in europe , as with all other saints fans ! regular at ant field are , thought not ...

[quote][p][bold]search for truth[/bold] wrote:
If you don't start getting players in you won't be able to field a full team next season. Everybody is signing players, your board are so slow all the good ones will be gone by the time you get around to it.
Liverpool FC confirm £10million swoop for Emre Can
• Jul 03, 2014 15:08
Bayer Leverkusen midfielder seals Anfield switch
Liverpool FC have confirmed the £10million signing of midfielder Emre Can from Bayer Leverkusen.
The Reds met the release clause in the 20-year-old’s contract last month and now the transfer has been completed.
Can said: “I am proud to be a part of the family and I am looking forward to playing here. I will give it my best.
“LFC is a great club and the fans are amongst the best in the world. I am looking forward to the first game and can’t wait to step on the pitch for the first time at Anfield.”
Can is the Reds’ third signing of the summer following the capture of Rickie Lambert and Adam Lallana from Southampton. He scored three goals in 29 league appearances for Leverkusen last season.[/p][/quote]shell suit ! suarez gone liverpool in big trouble ! he s irraplaceable all the GOOD strikers gone , to big succesfull teams ! and as usual lfc would of wasted a whole lot of money we saw you mugs coming for lama ! lol our most subbed player last season ! that doesnt happen to world class players , cant wait to see you crash in europe , as with all other saints fans ! regular at ant field are , thought not ...noodlesnewman

search for truth wrote…

If you don't start getting players in you won't be able to field a full team next season. Everybody is signing players, your board are so slow all the good ones will be gone by the time you get around to it. Liverpool FC confirm £10million swoop for Emre Can • Jul 03, 2014 15:08 Bayer Leverkusen midfielder seals Anfield switch Liverpool FC have confirmed the £10million signing of midfielder Emre Can from Bayer Leverkusen. The Reds met the release clause in the 20-year-old’s contract last month and now the transfer has been completed. Can said: “I am proud to be a part of the family and I am looking forward to playing here. I will give it my best. “LFC is a great club and the fans are amongst the best in the world. I am looking forward to the first game and can’t wait to step on the pitch for the first time at Anfield.” Can is the Reds’ third signing of the summer following the capture of Rickie Lambert and Adam Lallana from Southampton. He scored three goals in 29 league appearances for Leverkusen last season.

shell suit ! suarez gone liverpool in big trouble ! he s irraplaceable all the GOOD strikers gone , to big succesfull teams ! and as usual lfc would of wasted a whole lot of money we saw you mugs coming for lama ! lol our most subbed player last season ! that doesnt happen to world class players , cant wait to see you crash in europe , as with all other saints fans ! regular at ant field are , thought not ...

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