She's an idiot compared to someone like GSP, who realizes you can be driven to succeed and still treat people with kindness and respect. She's an
Idiot compared to Nick Diaz who sells fights before hand, and moves on when they are over.

She's not selling the fight when she's asked if she regrets injuring Tate and she says no. She's not selling the fight after its over when she says
she can beat up Bryan Caraway (UFC veteran and Meisha Tate's boyfriend). I don't think she's selling anything here. That's just who she is.

Did you see the prefight video when she was asked what she'd do for plan B if the armbar didnt work and she looked at the reporter like she was going
armbar him? That isn't a normal reaction to an honest question.

That's why I again question whether the areas of her brain that control emotion were damaged in her childhood. My bringing up her brain damage isn't
an insult, it's giving her the benefit of the doubt.

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So you think everyone should be like GSP? How boring would that be... SIgh! Why should she regret doing what she had to in order to win the fight when
Tate was too stupid to tap before she got injured? She even held off trying to get the ref to stop it so she did not have to follow through and injure
Tate. Perhaps if you listened instead of getting all emotional you would have heard her say she was trying to get into Tates head and it worked like a
charm she even got into that little coward Caraways head LOL! Its a fist fight for god sake maybe you would be better suited to watch water dancing
where everyone is nice and no one gets hurt. Ronda won that fight before she even got in the cage. She's a smart cookie and LOL at all the whiney
complainers taking things way to seriously.

PS tell your girl Sarah to tap when the time comes there is no budo in getting injured when you don't need to.

Greatest Martial artist to ever live! He really changed the face of martial arts for ever and his legacy still lives on and is still changing martial
arts! Yet his philosophy is that of life too. One of my heroes!

Bruce's spirit and talent has inspired countless people from all generations , and he is the most recognized figure in the world. It's awesome how
his mma idea came into fruition. I read Jeet Kune Do during asa teenager and it had more influence on me than any other book I read during my youth.
JKD helped to instill self discipline, and a constant interest that continued to grow and evolve both in martial arts and life. His abilities and
confidence always provided not only inspiration, but the means to an end that was endless, and a standard of supreme ability and perception.
I think I will hook up my rope/pulley to the ceiling and work on perfecting my side kick stance as I did so long ago.

Once again speculativeoptimist, I am late to the party. You know I should just get you to message me every-time there are some crazy fight about to
come up.

There looks to be at least over 5 fights that I got to see. So far just watched the kongo vs hunt fight and the rampage vs bader fight...

On the mark hunt fight, kongo is a kickboxer and so is mark. But man if there ever was a time for him to take mark down it was in that fight, and
after he got clipped and staggered. He should of gone right in for the take down, mark is not the greatest ground fighters in fact hes like a turtle
once you get him on his back...I know he's been practicing but he is so new to the ground game that against some fighters he is at a big
disadvantage.

Mark might have a coconut head, but anybody given the right time, the right moment, in the right spot can be knocked out. Just watch the manhoef
fight, he got caught coming in and it was lights out, in the replay you can see it better. The fight is pretty short the intros are long though, the
ko happens at about 6:40 in.

Oh and another toe to toe fight was the manhoef vs cyborg fight up at cage rage in Britain.
It's a good fight at the end there both out of gas and still trying to go at it. If anybody hasn't seen it its one to watch.

And the rampage vs bader fight, I think bader just fought the smart fight stayed out of range and when in trouble just used his wrestling to tie
rampage up. Plus rampage looked a bit slow in that fight. If he came on weight he probably could of won, but rampage has never been one for all that
weight cutting, and busting butt in the gym unless somebody made him do it. Plus I think like a lot of the older fighter that have been in the game
for a while, once you get up there in age it becomes harder and harder to cut the weight...And i think rampages natural weight is at around 230
pounds...So ya he just might have to fight at heavyweight one day.

Watching the Frankie Edgar vs Ben Henderson fight now and few others, got much to catch up on it seems.

I usually dont watch that many female fights, but she seems pretty good. Especially on the ground, that armbar at the end was nasty looking, if
anything I got to give misha tate some credit because that arm is broken for sure and she didnt even flinch..A very tough woman, both of them,
however I dont know what happened to the female cyborg, or were that whole illegal substance thing will go. But ya if they fought her best chance or
only chance, would be on the ground, she is pretty good on the ground, and the female cyborg can punch like a dude, I dont see her standing up with
her for long.

I dont know really since this Misha tate vs Ronda Rousey is the first I ever heard of her.

Originally posted by JROCK2527
How do ya'll think Dos Santos VS Overeem will play out?

Dos Santos will probably take it by ko or decision, its hard to see the fight go past the 3rd round. Overeem might have hit his peak, but his cockynes
is going to bite him in the ass if he tries to out strike Dos Santos, If anything I see him trying to keep it as a ranged fight. So I will probably
be expecting lots of low leg kicks from overeem then that clinch knee once he gets in.

I think Dos Santos can knock him out, but will he...I dont know. But if he can get in and if he does not play the outside striking game like he did
against cane and others. I think he can swarm and overwhelm Overeem with his punches if given a chance. If anything he can bait overeem to come in
with his knees which he has a habit of doing, then aim straight down the pipe and he could catch him, or at least daze him and from there it will be
all over.

Really the longer the fights goes to more it will probably be in overeems favor, Dos Santos has got to move around I think, dont stand still and
especially stay away from the fence. And in close range during a punch exchange he will have the advantage, because of his quickness, and also because
overeem has some long arms and at a certain range he wont be able to go swing for swing with Dos Santos, but he can catch Dos santos with a uppercut
at that range.

He looks to be in good shape, and I hope he exits victorious, a true icon in the sport.

Cro Cop's Final Fight (Kickboxing) is set to take place tomorrow in Zagreb, Croatia at the Zagreb Arena in front of almost 20 000 people.
Headling the card of course is Croatian superstar Mirko Filipovic taking on fellow K-1 veteran Ray Sefo. Weigh ins took place March 9 & we have the
video...

WHo is this 'sugar foot' dude, Ray Sefo?

Looked good in his prime, but I think he's a bit slower now. He probably still packs a punch though.

Wow, that surprised me! I guess a perfect hit on the chin button will do that to a man! At first I thought that was fake/fixed, but the replay
showed the connect.
Manhoef is a beast and that war with cyborg was epic! Where is Manhoef these days?
As always, thanks for the input friend!

Hey Realm, just watched the fight and man were there some haymakers thrown! They both took some good shots but I agree with the decision. I guess it
may not be CroCop's last fight now? Who knows, but always glad to see him.

Peace friend,
spec
ETA: hey man, you are in NZ no? Did that earthquake create any tsunami warnings?

I think cro cop was pretty much done a few fights ago, at least in mma, and ray sefo has been trying to get into mma but I think the transition is a
bit to much for him since he spent his whole career in k1 and fighting in stand up fights only. The whole ground game is a think that takes some time
to transition into.

But last I seen of Melvin Manhoef fights he was on loosing streaks, both in mma and in kickboxing.

These are the lasts two fight I remember seeing manhoef fight in. I think after a bit of a stint in mma he went back to k1 were he started loosing
there as well. I think Melvin went back to the old drawing board, but he will be back eventually.

Hey guys, just wanted to share something interesting. I am a Louisiana native and have enjoyed watching the series
Swamp People about gator hunting in the bayou. 2 of my favorite characters are
father son RJ and J Paul Molinere. The father is a 2 time world champion arm wrestler and the son is a 2 time golden gloves boxing champion. Last
night I saw this clip of Jay Paul's boxing workout:

Very nice hands, quickness and power. Then I found out he is entering the mma world and here is his first fight:

I think we will be seeing more of Jay Paul, and he has a discipline that is rare for a youngster, that I think will take him far in the sport. he
already has great hands and athleticism, and if he masters the ground game, he will be formidable me thinks.

Originally posted by speculativeoptimist
Just watched a Manhoef fight and holy moly, his roundhouse is one of the best in the business!!
He gets a shin split open so bad they call a no contest. Man, I have never seen a shin split like that

Manhoef is already a beast but now his kicks have taken him to another level ,imo.
Fight(2nd video shows more) www.fightvideomma.com...

Don't have time to catch the video but he is an awesome kickboxer however his ground game is severely lacking which is why he has not fared so well
in MMA. Hopefully he is working on it.

Jay Paul has potential fast hands and good cardio so that is a good start. Making the transition from Boxing to MMA is harder them most people think.
It is not just getting a decent ground game and good to go. The stance and timing in MMA is all different then boxing because you have to worry about
take downs kicks, clinch, and dirty boxing etc... The ref don't break you in MMA when in the clinch or Muay Thai plume or pressed against the
fence.

So you actually have to undue years of some of your boxing training. Also bobing and weaving or ducking low under punches is not as good of an idea in
MMA cause you could catch a knee. One advantage though from boxing is lateral movement.

A good example of a boxer turned MMA fighter is KJ Noons. He has done pretty well In MMA but has had some hit and miss, His ground game is decent but
not great but he is real good at take down defense and getting back up if taken down.... Still in his last fight a good wrestler/Grappler in Josh
Thompson was able to get him down and keep him down for the most part.

Some one like JAy really needs to immerse himself in the grappling arts if he wants to be successful in MMA. Guys like Noons have just tried to learn
enough TD defense and escapes etc. to get it back to the feet. I think this is a mistake. They need to embrace the grappling arts so they really know
and understand the concepts to be able to get it back to the feet and use their striking strengths. Chuck Lidell is a good example Div 2 wrestler
even Randy Couture could not keep him down so he could strike.

Good points hawkiye, and I think discipline, dedication and even a little genetics play a part too, all of which should serve Jay well in his growth.
You are right that he needs to immerse himself in the full game, and it seems he is. I think we will see more of him in the future, he still young
and has a lot of room to grow. His athleticism is impressive too, he has the quickness and the will to learn, and I see a little bit of the ole eye
of the tiger in him.

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