DropEmJayBird wrote:As far as Sid fighting.He fought Ference, Nisky, Giroux (kinda), some guy from Minny and finally the guy from Florida - who according to Sid asked him to fight in the faceoff dot (Sid I guess was quicker). The other fights turned into Sid ragdolling those guys.

murphydump55 wrote:Crosby has never once removed his helmet for a fight. He barely ever squares off for a fight, except for maybe a second against Niskanen, he basically rushes in as fast as he can. Every fight he's been in he's worn his visor, and started many of them, if not all.

In all of Crosby's fights listed on http://www.hockeyfights.com/players/5905, in no fight does an opposing player take off his helmet. I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for murphydump to provide evidence of Crosby refusing to take off his helmet when an opponent has already done so.

tfrizz wrote:- Morrow is in playoff form- Loved seeing Murray get one, and the celebration (or lack of) was even better. Hope Ovechkin took notes on how to celebrate like you've done it before! - Fleury didn't look sharp, but he got the job done. Hard to pin anything but the first goal on him anyhow.- Iggy looks like he's starting to get comfortable, but he's got to move his legs!!!- Speaking of moving legs, do Joe Vitale's ever stop? How is this guy a regular scratch???

Loved the game, didn't like seeing 4 goals against though. I know when your up 3-0 end of the first "theres alot of hockey left", and the 4th goal was junk with 10 seconds left, but really, I'd rather see Pens lock it down and win this one 4-1 or so. The Pens were outshot in each period and by 6 overall and blocked another 24 shots, compared to MTL 9 blocks, plus the Pens were aided with 7 PP opportunities.

A win is a win is a win some will say, but in my opinion if the Auld doesnt crap himself in the first period letting in two wristers that I know damn well would get MAF raked over the coals in these parts, the game could have turned out much differently.

I hate to be a downer, but I guess I'm still scared of the defensive issues popping up in the playoffs when the scoring goes down. Id like to see the Pens keep the GAA to under 2.0 for the rest of the regular season.

Fire0nice228 wrote:A win is a win is a win some will say, but in my opinion if the Auld doesnt crap himself in the first period letting in two wristers that I know damn well would get MAF raked over the coals in these parts, the game could have turned out much differently.

Fire0nice228 wrote:A win is a win is a win some will say, but in my opinion if the Auld doesnt crap himself in the first period letting in two wristers that I know damn well would get MAF raked over the coals in these parts, the game could have turned out much differently.

Fire0nice228 wrote:A win is a win is a win some will say, but in my opinion if the Auld doesnt crap himself in the first period letting in two wristers that I know damn well would get MAF raked over the coals in these parts, the game could have turned out much differently.

tfrizz wrote:- Morrow is in playoff form- Loved seeing Murray get one, and the celebration (or lack of) was even better. Hope Ovechkin took notes on how to celebrate like you've done it before! - Fleury didn't look sharp, but he got the job done. Hard to pin anything but the first goal on him anyhow.- Iggy looks like he's starting to get comfortable, but he's got to move his legs!!!- Speaking of moving legs, do Joe Vitale's ever stop? How is this guy a regular scratch???

Murray my not know how to celebrate a goal.

BEPF

In the post game interview, I believe he did say it had been so long, he didn't know what he was supposed to do!

murphydump55 wrote:Crosby has never once removed his helmet for a fight. He barely ever squares off for a fight, except for maybe a second against Niskanen, he basically rushes in as fast as he can. Every fight he's been in he's worn his visor, and started many of them, if not all.

In all of Crosby's fights listed on http://www.hockeyfights.com/players/5905, in no fight does an opposing player take off his helmet. I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for murphydump to provide evidence of Crosby refusing to take off his helmet when an opponent has already done so.

Sigh.

I'm not sure what's so hard to understand here. The OP was knocking Subban for the exact same things that Crosby does. That was my point! How can you sit there and call Subban out for all those things, when our own star player does the exact same things?

Subban jumps guys in a fight before they're ready. So has Sid.Subban fights with a visor. So does Sid.Subban fights with his helmet on. So does Sid.Subban is cheap. Sid has been cheap too at times.

So it's okay for Sid to do all those things, but Subban, geez, "take off your helmet!!", "don't fight with a visor!", etc etc.

I dislike Subban like the next guy, but I'm not going to sit here and pretend that Subban is the only guy that does that when our own 87 is just as much to blame.

When it comes to Sid and fights it may never be fair or have the time for him to even take his helmet off. For example there have been times(non recorded) that Sid has wanted to drop the gloves and maybe even take his helmet off. In those times a linesman/referee/teammate has stopped the potential fight before it even starts. Sid will never be able to just square off like any other fighter in the league. His teammates and officials will do whatever it takes to protect him. A good example is when Ovie dropped the gloves and removed his helmet with visor. By the time he was ready to fight another teammate jumped in. When/If Sid ever fights again it will never be a helmetless square off. It will have to occur like all the others.

Fire0nice228 wrote:I hate to be a downer, but I guess I'm still scared of the defensive issues popping up in the playoffs when the scoring goes down. Id like to see the Pens keep the GAA to under 2.0 for the rest of the regular season.

Yeah, that's a completely realistic goal. I'd like to see them not allow a goal the rest of the year.