still practicing that minor pentatonic you covered in your chat a long,long,long while back. It seems I can outside pick the down stroke, but when I follow that with outside picking upstroke it seems that this is were it falls apart,Have been stuck at around 70 bpm for weeks and recently am trying this as one of my picking patterns and I wanted your opinion.In the standard 1st position -D minor starting 13th fret f- down stroke/10th-up/13th-down(e STRING) /10th- up/12th-down(g string) 10th-up/12-dowm(d string) 10th -up(g string)12thdown/10th -up(b string)13th-down/10 -up(e string) and repeat in a 6 note pattern d u d u d u d u d u d u--13-10---------------------------------------10------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------13-10--------------------10--13------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------12-10-----10--12----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------12------------------------------------------------------------------------

and if you have the time , I would love to hear this up to speed( this is of course open to any instructor)ok,that did not tab out correctly-- sorry