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Elstree recycling centre could be scrapped to save money

Recycling services in Elstree could be scrapped as changes are suggested for Hertfordshire’s 17 waste centres.

Hertfordshire County Council is asking for residents' views as they publish suggestions for changes to waste centres in the county.

The council has asked new contractor AmeyCespa to put forward suggestions to improve efficiency and save money, while still reducing waste, improving rates of reuse and recycling and maintaining a reliable service for residents.

Residents have now been invited to comment on the proposed changes, which include:

• Permanently closing the household waste recycling centres at Elstree and Hoddesdon
• Changing the remaining 15 sites from a seven-day service to a five-day service, with the introduction of weekday closures
• Changing opening times, with all sites opening from 8am to 4pm all year (except Buntingford, which will retain the existing three hours per day service)

The consultation says 99 per cent of all residents would still be able to reach a household waste centre within 20 minutes of their home.

Residents of Elstree & Borehamwood would need to use the Cranbourne Road site in Potters Bar.

Comments

cpndesign
4:06pm Mon 16 Jun 14

You would have thought that facilities such as a recycling centre would be even more important with the glut of new homes being built in the area. I wonder what will happen to the site - bet it won't be a new school.

You would have thought that facilities such as a recycling centre would be even more important with the glut of new homes being built in the area. I wonder what will happen to the site - bet it won't be a new school.cpndesign

You would have thought that facilities such as a recycling centre would be even more important with the glut of new homes being built in the area. I wonder what will happen to the site - bet it won't be a new school.

Score: 25

Reader (R)
4:51pm Mon 16 Jun 14

"The consultation states that would still leave around 99% of all residents able to reach a household waste centre within 20 minutes of their homes.

Residents of Elstree & Borehamwood would need to use the Cranbourne Road site in Potters Bar".

I assume the county council will provide and pay for the blue light escort to meet the 20 minute target time

"The consultation states that would still leave around 99% of all residents able to reach a household waste centre within 20 minutes of their homes.
Residents of Elstree & Borehamwood would need to use the Cranbourne Road site in Potters Bar".
I assume the county council will provide and pay for the blue light escort to meet the 20 minute target timeReader (R)

"The consultation states that would still leave around 99% of all residents able to reach a household waste centre within 20 minutes of their homes.

Residents of Elstree & Borehamwood would need to use the Cranbourne Road site in Potters Bar".

I assume the county council will provide and pay for the blue light escort to meet the 20 minute target time

Score: 25

sj6
7:45pm Mon 16 Jun 14

More rubbish will be dumped in the streets.

More rubbish will be dumped in the streets.sj6

More rubbish will be dumped in the streets.

Score: 23

ANt Gee
9:17am Tue 17 Jun 14

I agree with all the above comments. Recycling has been shoved down our throats over many years and whilst I, probably like many, wasnt keen to start, I have fully bought into the scheme and feel it has benefits for the planet. Closing Allum Lane recycling centre would discourage me and many others from continuing this policy. How much extra petrol will be used getting to Potters Bar (and how much extra pollution created)? Even if it is 20 minutes away (which I doubt) then a return journey will be 40 minutes apart from the extra waiting time at the Potters Bar site due to less centres being opened. Come on Council, USE SOME JOINED UP THINKING

I agree with all the above comments. Recycling has been shoved down our throats over many years and whilst I, probably like many, wasnt keen to start, I have fully bought into the scheme and feel it has benefits for the planet. Closing Allum Lane recycling centre would discourage me and many others from continuing this policy. How much extra petrol will be used getting to Potters Bar (and how much extra pollution created)? Even if it is 20 minutes away (which I doubt) then a return journey will be 40 minutes apart from the extra waiting time at the Potters Bar site due to less centres being opened. Come on Council, USE SOME JOINED UP THINKINGANt Gee

I agree with all the above comments. Recycling has been shoved down our throats over many years and whilst I, probably like many, wasnt keen to start, I have fully bought into the scheme and feel it has benefits for the planet. Closing Allum Lane recycling centre would discourage me and many others from continuing this policy. How much extra petrol will be used getting to Potters Bar (and how much extra pollution created)? Even if it is 20 minutes away (which I doubt) then a return journey will be 40 minutes apart from the extra waiting time at the Potters Bar site due to less centres being opened. Come on Council, USE SOME JOINED UP THINKING

Score: 16

Sasha12
7:43pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Disgracful we pay for the dump in our poll tax along with bin collection then you want us to pay more on top for council collections that dump has been there for as long as I can remember you go on about the environment etc but want us to travel to potters bar how is that eco friendly you take it for granted that people can get to the dump easily if we lose elstree dump without a doubt you would fill the land with a travellers site or more housing you seem to be missing something here we are building every scrap of land & bringing more people into the area cramming everyone in so we suffocate & yet you are removing community facilities so I can only envisaged lots of health & social problems flytipping rats food poisoning etc from people struggling to get to potters bar this then has a affect on our health care as we haven't enough drs now clinics walk in centers schools etc etc etc you must understand if you increase community population you must give & keep community facilities not reduce them!! Its comman sense

Disgracful we pay for the dump in our poll tax along with bin collection then you want us to pay more on top for council collections that dump has been there for as long as I can remember you go on about the environment etc but want us to travel to potters bar how is that eco friendly you take it for granted that people can get to the dump easily if we lose elstree dump without a doubt you would fill the land with a travellers site or more housing you seem to be missing something here we are building every scrap of land & bringing more people into the area cramming everyone in so we suffocate & yet you are removing community facilities so I can only envisaged lots of health & social problems flytipping rats food poisoning etc from people struggling to get to potters bar this then has a affect on our health care as we haven't enough drs now clinics walk in centers schools etc etc etc you must understand if you increase community population you must give & keep community facilities not reduce them!! Its comman senseSasha12

Disgracful we pay for the dump in our poll tax along with bin collection then you want us to pay more on top for council collections that dump has been there for as long as I can remember you go on about the environment etc but want us to travel to potters bar how is that eco friendly you take it for granted that people can get to the dump easily if we lose elstree dump without a doubt you would fill the land with a travellers site or more housing you seem to be missing something here we are building every scrap of land & bringing more people into the area cramming everyone in so we suffocate & yet you are removing community facilities so I can only envisaged lots of health & social problems flytipping rats food poisoning etc from people struggling to get to potters bar this then has a affect on our health care as we haven't enough drs now clinics walk in centers schools etc etc etc you must understand if you increase community population you must give & keep community facilities not reduce them!! Its comman sense

Score: 7

sined
7:52pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Looks like the countryside will benefit with more fly tipping instead, ie
Buckets land lane, Ridge, and Shenley, People won't go to potters bar its to far away.
Borehamwood council has been going down the pan now for over 15 years or so,Mind you could build a block of flats over there, MITE JUST FIT.

Looks like the countryside will benefit with more fly tipping instead, ie
Buckets land lane, Ridge, and Shenley, People won't go to potters bar its to far away.
Borehamwood council has been going down the pan now for over 15 years or so,Mind you could build a block of flats over there, MITE JUST FIT.sined

Looks like the countryside will benefit with more fly tipping instead, ie
Buckets land lane, Ridge, and Shenley, People won't go to potters bar its to far away.
Borehamwood council has been going down the pan now for over 15 years or so,Mind you could build a block of flats over there, MITE JUST FIT.

Score: 7

EBRA2013
9:35am Wed 18 Jun 14

sined wrote…

Looks like the countryside will benefit with more fly tipping instead, ie
Buckets land lane, Ridge, and Shenley, People won't go to potters bar its to far away.
Borehamwood council has been going down the pan now for over 15 years or so,Mind you could build a block of flats over there, MITE JUST FIT.

this the reason why: Hertfordshire County Council has announced AmeyCespa as its preferred bidder to run its household waste recycling centres with a brief to save at least £6m over the eight year contract period.

[quote][p][bold]sined[/bold] wrote:
Looks like the countryside will benefit with more fly tipping instead, ie
Buckets land lane, Ridge, and Shenley, People won't go to potters bar its to far away.
Borehamwood council has been going down the pan now for over 15 years or so,Mind you could build a block of flats over there, MITE JUST FIT.[/p][/quote]this the reason why: Hertfordshire County Council has announced AmeyCespa as its preferred bidder to run its household waste recycling centres with a brief to save at least £6m over the eight year contract period.
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sined wrote…

Looks like the countryside will benefit with more fly tipping instead, ie
Buckets land lane, Ridge, and Shenley, People won't go to potters bar its to far away.
Borehamwood council has been going down the pan now for over 15 years or so,Mind you could build a block of flats over there, MITE JUST FIT.

this the reason why: Hertfordshire County Council has announced AmeyCespa as its preferred bidder to run its household waste recycling centres with a brief to save at least £6m over the eight year contract period.

The site in Allum Lane is always busy. To close it means dumping in the country side will happen. You already see that along Barnet Lane. Such a stupid move but so typical of local authority thinking these days.
It is no good ramming the supposed virtues of recycling down our throats for years, if you then move that facility six miles away - all part of trying to make life as awkward as possible.

The site in Allum Lane is always busy. To close it means dumping in the country side will happen. You already see that along Barnet Lane. Such a stupid move but so typical of local authority thinking these days.
It is no good ramming the supposed virtues of recycling down our throats for years, if you then move that facility six miles away - all part of trying to make life as awkward as possible.G0PQB35

The site in Allum Lane is always busy. To close it means dumping in the country side will happen. You already see that along Barnet Lane. Such a stupid move but so typical of local authority thinking these days.
It is no good ramming the supposed virtues of recycling down our throats for years, if you then move that facility six miles away - all part of trying to make life as awkward as possible.

Score: 10

kelvin
12:24pm Thu 19 Jun 14

A totally crass proposal to close the Elstree site, it is alway's busy and recycling keeps fly tippers off the streets,Please please keep it open.

A totally crass proposal to close the Elstree site, it is alway's busy and recycling keeps fly tippers off the streets,Please please keep it open.kelvin

A totally crass proposal to close the Elstree site, it is alway's busy and recycling keeps fly tippers off the streets,Please please keep it open.

Score: 14

Short But Useful
8:39am Fri 20 Jun 14

Madness.
There is clearly no integrated planning going on when, as other people have stated, massive housing developments are proposed for Borehamwood which will greatly increase the population so the demand for this type of facility will increase.
Also, the distance to other centres will discourage people from using them, some won't recycle responsibly and in a very small number of cases they will be tempted to fly tip which will cost the council more to deal with.
Also, how much is this land worth for development? No doubt somebody in the council has this well in hand too.
Sure, tinker with the opening hours if you must, but keep this valuable and much needed public amendity OPEN!

Madness.
There is clearly no integrated planning going on when, as other people have stated, massive housing developments are proposed for Borehamwood which will greatly increase the population so the demand for this type of facility will increase.
Also, the distance to other centres will discourage people from using them, some won't recycle responsibly and in a very small number of cases they will be tempted to fly tip which will cost the council more to deal with.
Also, how much is this land worth for development? No doubt somebody in the council has this well in hand too.
Sure, tinker with the opening hours if you must, but keep this valuable and much needed public amendity OPEN!Short But Useful

Madness.
There is clearly no integrated planning going on when, as other people have stated, massive housing developments are proposed for Borehamwood which will greatly increase the population so the demand for this type of facility will increase.
Also, the distance to other centres will discourage people from using them, some won't recycle responsibly and in a very small number of cases they will be tempted to fly tip which will cost the council more to deal with.
Also, how much is this land worth for development? No doubt somebody in the council has this well in hand too.
Sure, tinker with the opening hours if you must, but keep this valuable and much needed public amendity OPEN!

Score: 9

EP Herts
1:12am Sat 21 Jun 14

Wonder which House Builders have been offering what to who to get their hands on the land?

Borehamwood used to be a nice little village/small town on the edge of London. Now it is being swallowed up by the urban sprawl.

All the flats around the station but what happened to the promised traffic lights at the junction. Are they waiting for someone to get killed before they do what they promised.

Closed the college and built flats and houses, closing the Hertswood site to build more and now I hear they are going to build more houses on the site of an office block in the elstree way corridor.

Don't let the grass grow too long in your garden or you will find a housing estate built on it when you turn your back.

Wonder which House Builders have been offering what to who to get their hands on the land?
Borehamwood used to be a nice little village/small town on the edge of London. Now it is being swallowed up by the urban sprawl.
All the flats around the station but what happened to the promised traffic lights at the junction. Are they waiting for someone to get killed before they do what they promised.
Closed the college and built flats and houses, closing the Hertswood site to build more and now I hear they are going to build more houses on the site of an office block in the elstree way corridor.
Don't let the grass grow too long in your garden or you will find a housing estate built on it when you turn your back.EP Herts

Wonder which House Builders have been offering what to who to get their hands on the land?

Borehamwood used to be a nice little village/small town on the edge of London. Now it is being swallowed up by the urban sprawl.

All the flats around the station but what happened to the promised traffic lights at the junction. Are they waiting for someone to get killed before they do what they promised.

Closed the college and built flats and houses, closing the Hertswood site to build more and now I hear they are going to build more houses on the site of an office block in the elstree way corridor.

Don't let the grass grow too long in your garden or you will find a housing estate built on it when you turn your back.

Score: 10

david Burcombe
4:24pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Back to square 1 as Herts County Council have again showed they have no brains or an understanding of the value of recycling plants. If they close Elstrtee i bet my life that there will be a big increase in fly tipping and smaller items in the black bags. Many of us have old TVs radios hoovers gas and Electric appliances we take to the recycling plant. A 10 minute drive at present or less compared to 45 minutes if we go to one of the other sites. Petrol is on the increase find a convenient field to dump unwanted items that will be the unfortunate case HERTS COUNTY THINK BEFORE OPENING MOUTH

Back to square 1 as Herts County Council have again showed they have no brains or an understanding of the value of recycling plants. If they close Elstrtee i bet my life that there will be a big increase in fly tipping and smaller items in the black bags. Many of us have old TVs radios hoovers gas and Electric appliances we take to the recycling plant. A 10 minute drive at present or less compared to 45 minutes if we go to one of the other sites. Petrol is on the increase find a convenient field to dump unwanted items that will be the unfortunate case HERTS COUNTY THINK BEFORE OPENING MOUTHdavid Burcombe

Back to square 1 as Herts County Council have again showed they have no brains or an understanding of the value of recycling plants. If they close Elstrtee i bet my life that there will be a big increase in fly tipping and smaller items in the black bags. Many of us have old TVs radios hoovers gas and Electric appliances we take to the recycling plant. A 10 minute drive at present or less compared to 45 minutes if we go to one of the other sites. Petrol is on the increase find a convenient field to dump unwanted items that will be the unfortunate case HERTS COUNTY THINK BEFORE OPENING MOUTH

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