Hi all,
Downloaded Racy 5.1.99 to try on the old Samsung X05.
Did a manual update of a USB dongle, i.e. swapped over the three files, shut down and then booted from the dongle.
Racy failed to boot with a message saying something like " Not a pae enabled processor please use a different version of Puppy".
Did a little googling, which seemed to infer that the pae kernel extension was for systems with up to 64GB of memory.
The Samsung is getting on but it is still a 686 Centrino CPU.
I then downloaded Wary 5.1.99, and I am having problems with that creating a save file. So it has been a real fun day.
Cheers

Though I booted with that kernel-line the init found the savefile .
Sound seems to be OK though setup_alsa_func is commented :
/proc/asound/card0/id
I82801BAICH2
/proc/asound/card1/id
UART

One thing to consider had been , that the loading of the sound card drivers varies : sometime snd_intel8x0 gets loaded first and snd_mpu401 second and other days viceversa . [ maybe a "|sort -d" would had helped in rc.sysinit ] .

The missing libpcap could be fixed by copying it as -V 0.8 from a luci5pup and renaming it to 1 .

I remastered iguleders dpup-005 kernel2.6.33.2 several times and one remaster had this freeze at /proc i can remember . Maybe I had installed a more recent rox there also , or there are problems with ".wh." files :
find /initrd/pup_rw -iname "*.wh.*"
/initrd/pup_rw/.wh..wh.aufs
/initrd/pup_rw/lib/modules/all-firmware/.wh.nozomi.tar.gz
/initrd/pup_rw/lib/modules/all-firmware/.wh.cdcacm.tar.gz
/initrd/pup_rw/lib/modules/all-firmware/.wh.ipwireless.tar.gz
/initrd/pup_rw/lib/modules/all-firmware/.wh.usbserial.tar.gz
/initrd/pup_rw/lib/modules/all-firmware/.wh.hso.tar.gz
/initrd/pup_rw/.wh..wh.orph
/initrd/pup_rw/.wh..wh.plnk
/initrd/pup_rw/dev/snd/.wh..wh..opq

I checked /usr/bin and it appears not to be caused by missing binaries ... ; xerrs.log and dmesg give no messages about that .

Another problem :
For the xorgwizard GUI i would also like to have a note about "Please close all apps before proceeding" .

I copied a Xvesa bin from another Puppy and expected the terminal wizard ,
but it automatically links X to Xvesa and starts X .

The first time it did not work , hanging in an endless loop , while it had not been possible to login on tty2 or 3 , hanging after the right password ;
wrong passwords gave the "login incorrect" message and I was able to type "login" again .
Had to "CONTROL+ALT+DELETE" to reboot .

"dumpe2fs $PATHtoRACYSAVE.3fs | grep -i state" still showed "clean" , after reboot ,
and the Xvesa is running well , then ;
and the login on tty2 works again .

But now rox totally freezes at /proc , and had to be killed ; and restored by "rox -p /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin" .

Today booted pfix=ram :
rox is working OK in /proc .
mtpaint still does not save layers .

For today I would suggest for xorgwizard :

Code:

--- /root/xorgwizard-orig 2011-09-11 01:31:33.000000000 +0100
+++ /usr/sbin/xorgwizard 2011-09-25 13:35:55.443178122 +0100
@@ -238,7 +238,7 @@
<vbox>
<frame XorgWizard>
<hbox>
- <text><label>XorgWizard completely reconstructs the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, and X must not be running to do this. A reboot is required, and the Wizard will run in text mode, before X is launched.</label></text>
+ <text><label>XorgWizard completely reconstructs the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, and X must not be running to do this. Pressing this button will shutdown the current Xserver $CURRENTX and the Wizard will run in text mode, before X is launched again. Please close all applications !</label></text>
<vbox>
<button>
<input file>/usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons/wizard16.xpm</input>
@@ -246,7 +246,8 @@
</button>
</vbox>
</hbox>
- <text><label>NOTE: You can also run XorgWizard manually, without rebooting, by exiting from X to the commandline (see Shutdown menu) then run xorgwizard.</label></text>
+ <text><label>NOTE 1 : You can also run XorgWizard manually , by exiting from X to the commandline (see Shutdown menu) then run xorgwizard .</label></text>
+ <text><label>NOTE 2 : If you have the commonly used Xvesa server installed in /usr/bin/ folder , this button does not run the Wizard but automatically starts the Xvesa X-Server .</label></text>
</frame>

Another thing : The bootmanager Xdialog to add a module froze yesterday with 80% CPU usage , and it was astonishing , because i had closed all applications and just before poweroff i remembered to load the 'it87' temperature module .
Simply 'Xdialog -msgbox "HELLO" 0 0' works today ... without save-file .
I checked the savefile 'fsck -v -f' and no corruptions found .

The bootmanager Xdialog to add a module froze yesterday with 80% CPU usage

I recompiled Xdialog from debian lenny , because there is no Xdialog for later debians , including the patch on my machine "uname -m 'i686'" with "./configure --with-gtk2" which installs to /usr/local and the Xdialog of bootmanager is working correctly now . The size of the binary is still 'ls -s 69KB" .
The only thing is
"(Xdialog:26076): Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_text()"
that spits out .

HTH

Another 2 things :

rc.shutdown :

I would like the idea to default to SFEXT="2fs" choosing encryption , even if the user had chosen 3fs before : The savefile gets created in ext3 but only read-only , so no save was made and no message about that .

The syntax in pupsave_func has changed since Puppy4.3 , and it would take me some time to understand it , before I could make any suggestions .

initrd/init :

Booting with only one warysave-file on the disk also went good with only " pdev1=sda4" on the kernel line , without "psubdir" parameter .
Having more than one warysave on the disk :
No real error message , but booted the partition the kernel had been compiled on :
file /mnt/home/RACY_01/vmlinuz
/mnt/home/RACY_01/vmlinuz: Linux kernel x86 boot executable bzImage, version 2.6.39.4 (root@puppypc) #1 SMP , RO-rootFS, root_dev 0x809, swap_dev 0x2, Normal VGA

I actually had been happy about that , because that partition is out of the boot range of my BIOS and I used it for backups , storage and kernel compiling(which I abandomed on this machine , because it took 5 to 6 hours to finish ) . Had Puppy installed full on it , too , and because i had opened the initrd.gz i was able to modprobe squashfs and after that copying the modules out of the dotsfs onto the partition . The kernel ran fine : internet could be accessed . I compiled latest e2fsprogs to try to access the crypt-warysave and really needed some headers from the 2.6.39.4 kernel to get the ext4progs compiled . Nevertheless only one feature ( 18 ) is supported more , and while the crypted savefile.3fs could be mounted , still "-o remount,rw" did not work and the new e2fsck could not access it either .

But I think this is not intended . Also reading and understanding the code would take me some days why the save file menu did not show at boot .

A yes about mtpaint : searching the forum i found the lhpup mtpaint 3.34.33here by technosaurus .
The thread is very interesting , and also ttuuxxx mtpaint-3.31 is very nice because of the icons but 3.31 is missing the dock feature .

And for the usability of mtpaint of 3.33.64 :
This thread really addresses my problem : before i had been able to drag and drop layers into mtpaint , and now there is a workaround by copying , exporting and importing to clipboard explained by forum member aarf , but the results are not the same : The color-palettes dont get imported but merged .

Booting with only one warysave-file on the disk also went good with only " pdev1=sda4" on the kernel line , without "psubdir" parameter .
Having more than one warysave on the disk :
No real error message , but booted the partition the kernel had been compiled on :

I wrote this , but now i cant confirm this anymore : adding "" or "pdev1=sda4" or "pdev=sda4" or "pdev=sda5" or "psubdir=/RACY_01" or "PDEV=sd4" to "kernel /RACY_01/vmlinuz " always gave me now the three warysaves to choose from on sda4 - there is also a /wary098/warysave-098.3fs on sda7 but that did not show in the menu at boot .
I seem to have left out the initrd line then , booting it manually by grub4dos shell .

I also booted accidentially the encrypted 3.fs savefile while having a pupsaveresize.txt in the RACY folder : the encryption seems to be gone , the resizing worked and the filesystem now is without "-j" [ =ext2 ] .

It seems to be not to difficult to add the savefile name to the pupsaveresize.txt :

I have not tested this , it is just a suggestion ; also if done before shutdown and not booting it for some days someone may have forgotten about that resizesavefile.txt .

For any wary packages :

mrxvt and xterm-250 are working ; but

mrxvt replaces urxvt with a link to mrxvt ; I would prefer having two console emulators - just in case .

and

xterm-250 installs to /usr/X11R7/bin so typing xterm in the console would still run the script in /usr/bin/ and there is no DOTdesktop file for it in the package .Last edited by Karl Godt on Tue 27 Sep 2011, 06:33; edited 1 time in total

I am in a bit of a break from Slacko dev for a few days so I thought I'd try Racy. My machine is an X2 3gig Athlon with nvidia forcedeth board, 2 G RAM, nvidia 8600gs PCIE video, so I figured racy should be good.

First, I got to the desktop and had an out of range res, my monitor is 1280x1024 max, the driver picked was vesa.

I tried the graphical xorgwizard and all it did was restart X.. this I think is due to the auto xorg.. when I was booting to desktop in slacko I forced a config file that when read prevented that from happening.

Next stop was to drop to a prompt and choose nouveau from xorgwizard, xwin and got a nice desktop. I got online no problem, rt73usb wireless,

Next stop was to see if I could get mesa, I get really good acceleration with nouveau in slacko and thought it would be likewise in racy but then it just crashed .. bunch of output on the console, doesn't mean much to me. If you want I can try and capture it, may be useful to you. Oh, the last word was "panic". I didn't.

I am in a bit of a break from Slacko dev for a few days so I thought I'd try Racy. My machine is an X2 3gig Athlon with nvidia forcedeth board, 2 G RAM, nvidia 8600gs PCIE video, so I figured racy should be good.

First, I got to the desktop and had an out of range res, my monitor is 1280x1024 max, the driver picked was vesa.

I tried the graphical xorgwizard and all it did was restart X.. this I think is due to the auto xorg.. when I was booting to desktop in slacko I forced a config file that when read prevented that from happening.

Next stop was to drop to a prompt and choose nouveau from xorgwizard, xwin and got a nice desktop. I got online no problem, rt73usb wireless,

Next stop was to see if I could get mesa, I get really good acceleration with nouveau in slacko and thought it would be likewise in racy but then it just crashed .. bunch of output on the console, doesn't mean much to me. If you want I can try and capture it, may be useful to you. Oh, the last word was "panic". I didn't.

Cheers

Mick,
Racy already has the complete Mesa. There is nothing to add.

The wary5 repo did have an old mesa update PET, which was only appropriate for previous Wary releases. I have now removed that PET._________________http://barryk.org/news/

I will point out that I only clicked the button to try to get a video upgrade .. told me I was fine actually and then for no apparent reason the system crashed, so it was unrelated to anything really (that I can pinpoint) .. just decided to die.. it happens.

If it's any consolation.. I just compiled 2.6.39.4 exactly to your instructions (plus some mods to config provided by tempestuous and pemasu), woofed up a slacko and it cant boot. May well be my HW and that kernel.. it didn't like 2.6.38.x either._________________Puppy Linux Blog - contact me for access

Important note, I have not yet studied all of the earlier posts in this Forum thread, will do so soon. There are also some posts in the Wary thread that I have still to look into.

I wanted to get out the first beta for the upcoming Racy 5.2, as it seems to have reached sufficient maturity to be classified as a beta. Fingers crossed.

Lots of interesting things in it, bug fixes, well worth bringing out I reckon.

I want to take off a couple of days, which was another reason for bringing it out now. Today I will work on a couple of issues with this Racy. After my mini-break I intend to upload Woof and do a 5.2beta1 build of Wary._________________http://barryk.org/news/

Ummm - yes, or rather no!
If Wary is still intended to target the real world beyond NYC, then a <=50Mb .iso would seem to be the best landfill panacea.
If you want to run with the lemmings and create a Racy for a minority of spoilt brats with too much cash that's a different matter. Perhaps you could write a textual overlay wallpaper suggesting that this group consider giving their fortunes to their starving fellow citizens instead of propping up greedy capitalists?

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