As far as i am concerned, Nick Grifin is the party, you know, i am really getting throughly annoyed with people slagging off the party, all the stupid posts critisizing Nick and everything the party stands for.

All these people need to ask theirselves just a couple of questions.

Is the party getting stronger by the day with more people joining as paid up members and are we getting many more councillors elected?

If the answer to those two questions is yes, then there cannot be much wrong with it can there.

All the negative comments are just put out to demoralise members and cause disruption, but it is not working, i've said it before and i will say it again, fools, you have lost the battle and the war regarding the BNP, so just bugger off and do something usefull for a change.

If this forum is supposed to be a beacon for Nationalists, then a lot of people should not be here.

Just cut the negative comments and accept we are here to stay.

Once again Raffles those comments do not apply to you as you are not a member of the party, but i will say this, if you regard yourself as a Nationalist then why are you not a member?

After all, what other party has made the progress the BNP has despite all the crap thrown at it.

I will concede that i do not agree with some of the policies but that is beside the point, i accept them as a party member and will continue to do so as others do in other parties, any member of any political party has to support the party and its leader come what may, else it is doomed to failure.

As you have probably realised by now I am a staunch member and will continue to be so unless something happens to change my mind in which case i would resign gracefully, not go out of my way to stirr crap like others have done.

LK

I think People have stirred crap.

mainly the man himself.

He thinks he is above critics with in "our" movement, why if considered the leader of our movement
Crap on so many that have been there and done it in the past, What does he think that this will do?

I would never push democracy on anyone Max. Such a filthy word with hidden and sly meaning.

Yes what you say is quite right Godiva, and we can all see with our very own eyes where so-called democracy has brought us.

But I have been addressing the democracy, or the lack of it in the BNP.

Most people who take that great leap into Nationalism are in my opinion fairly politically aware, and also have a good idea as to where they want that party to go in the future.

So I would be quite happy to abide by the policies and rules that came about from debate and discussion amongst a board of experienced and intelligent members, more than the whim of one man who can never be held to account.

The question here for me should be ''Who could trust Griffin again?''.

There is a weight of real evidence to tell anyone that they would be a fool to do that.

Some folk have doubts about Sadie Graham to which they are, of course entitled.

There is no harm in doubt. As a respected Comrade on here says ''Paranoia can keep you alive....If you are wrong, you can always apologise''.

I have doubts about many people. So far, Sadie is not one of them.

All that I have ever seen from her is bravery, dedication and a desire to make the party more professional.

Fair enough. I’m quite sure that working with Griffin ... and trying to influence him ... must be a living nightmare. Sadie Graham and her allies should have followed the only democratic option available to them ... and mounted a serious leadership challenge themselves. Failing the necessary numbers ... they should have regrouped outside the BNP. Auty ... who seems to be acting under their auspices ... is now doing what they should have prepared for last year. Unfortunately, it’s now too late .... Auty’s a lightweight ... and they’re damaged goods. All that’s left is a future challenge from Barnbrook ... the only one in the BNP who could ever mount a serious challenge to Griffin ... and win.

He thinks he is above critics with in "our" movement, why if considered the leader of our movement
Crap on so many that have been there and done it in the past, What does he think that this will do?

Get more People to vote or less People to agree with him.

I have never seen the point of his agender.

If that is the case, why has there not been a sucessful leadership challenge?

And before you answer, if anyone was more worthy of the job than Nick Griffin, then a new leader would have been appointed years ago.
The plain fact is that NG has the leadership qualities demanded by the membership and he will continue to be leader until the membership majority demand change.

I don't follow WTTL in this ... and an impression is an impression ... no more than that. However, Auty is undeniably a lightweight ... who’s appeared from nowhere. Does he have the skills to lead the BNP? We can but wonder. And from Auty’s own blog, some of his backers ... giving at least the hint of a subversive coterie are ...

Let me tell you that I know Steve Thomson. He was a very good organiser. Regardless of what is written on the BNP Scotland site, hardly a thing happens in the NE since he resigned his post. He was the driving force behind what was then Aberdeen BNP. He is certainly not subversive. He has even tried to build bridges and remain in the BNP but has been thwarted by an official who will not let his personal feud with Steve go (I'm not talking about Gary Raikes, in case you should wonder). Steve is not exactly in line with my own personal views on race but I certainly respect him as a hard-working, dedicated nationalist.

If that is the case, why has there not been a sucessful leadership challenge?

And before you answer, if anyone was more worthy of the job than Nick Griffin, then a new leader would have been appointed years ago.
The plain fact is that NG has the leadership qualities demanded by the membership and he will continue to be leader until the membership majority demand change.

I cannot see than happening for some time yet.

LK

Yes apart from anything else he got it all sown up, he thinks he is the only man to do it.

Who would dare to challenge him and be made out to be a leper.

Thats is how he likes it, plus he makes a fair bit from it.

I do not blame him.

Any political party needs doners, But when most of the doners are looking for help you do not take the piss.

And before you answer, if anyone was more worthy of the job than Nick Griffin, then a new leader would have been appointed years ago.
The plain fact is that NG has the leadership qualities demanded by the membership and he will continue to be leader until the membership majority demand change.

Griffin is all about Number One. All his tinkering with the BNP agenda ... and his cosying up to the Jews and the Media ... is to make sure he has a good living and a soft ride. He said in Burnley on 8 May that the ethnic hordes are here to stay ... and we must face it. But he knows full well that no one joins the BNP or votes BNP because of its stance on education or crime. People join the party and vote for it because they want the immigrants out and they want their country back. Nothing more ... nothing less. If the BNP inner circle withdrew their support from Griffin .... he’d be finished ... an Emperor with no Clothes. Griffin is fiddling about ... wasting time ... squandering the asset that the BNP is ... while Britain falls apart. Someone who can ... should stop the rot.