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It's weakness is laning...and when I say weak, I mean you have to play it perfectly because it's that bad.

nah it's weakness is people assuming you're trolling when you pick it and stop trying #bronzementality
happened 2 of 3 games i played her. and the 3rd is the one where i stomped my lane but they heavily lost the others. i feel like it's something you can only do in diamond without people assuming you're trolling and going "yolo i'm gonna troll too"

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Originally Posted by scav

nah it's weakness is people assuming you're trolling when you pick it and stop trying #bronzementality
happened 2 of 3 games i played her. and the 3rd is the one where i stomped my lane but they heavily lost the others. i feel like it's something you can only do in diamond without people assuming you're trolling and going "yolo i'm gonna troll too"

rofl.

stop beating around the bush and just name me.

And yes I will call it a troll pick. The day I see it work in the LCS I'll say "OK maybe it can work in certain situations".

It's a crappy pick compared to other strong top laners. I'd even welcome a Poppy before Soraka.

Also it's a massive difference between picks working between elo levels. Just because you see Meteos destroy on Nidalee jungle doesn't mean it's a good pick for jungling in low elo.

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Originally Posted by scav

nah it's weakness is people assuming you're trolling when you pick it and stop trying #bronzementality
happened 2 of 3 games i played her. and the 3rd is the one where i stomped my lane but they heavily lost the others. i feel like it's something you can only do in diamond without people assuming you're trolling and going "yolo i'm gonna troll too"

Yeah, you see it a lot in streams. No one even bats an eye if something unconventional is picked. But the problem with her is most times you have to play completely pussy, and by doing that it's impossible to help your team if they're not winning in other places. At that point the pick is really lackluster IMO.

Originally Posted by 3c

rofl.

stop beating around the bush and just name me.

And yes I will call it a troll pick. The day I see it work in the LCS I'll say "OK maybe it can work in certain situations".

It's a crappy pick compared to other strong top laners. I'd even welcome a Poppy before Soraka.

Also it's a massive difference between picks working between elo levels. Just because you see Meteos destroy on Nidalee jungle doesn't mean it's a good pick for jungling in low elo.

It isn't a troll pick dude. Do you understand why people even spam it in high elo in the first place? Just because it's good in Solo Q, doesn't mean it's good in competitive. They're completely different games. I don't care what Meteos is doing, Nidalee Jungle is kinda of nonsensical. Of course Meteos could probably make it work. I wouldn't equate Soraka Top to Nidalee Jungle at all lol.

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And yes I will call it a troll pick. The day I see it work in the LCS I'll say "OK maybe it can work in certain situations".

It's a crappy pick compared to other strong top laners. I'd even welcome a Poppy before Soraka.

Also it's a massive difference between picks working between elo levels. Just because you see Meteos destroy on Nidalee jungle doesn't mean it's a good pick for jungling in low elo.

actually i wasn't aiming at you particularly i was talking in general even thought you were in one of those 3 games. no wonder you recognized yourself. not everything is viable in competitive but everything can work in solo Q. Sure if you start trolling whenever someone pick nidalee jungle just because he picked nidalee jungle and he's not meteos it'll never work. for example i destroyed on ranked with jayce jungle, if it was with people with that mentality would've never worked since they would troll as soon as they would see jayce jungle

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Originally Posted by xi0

It isn't a troll pick dude. Do you understand why people even spam it in high elo in the first place? Just because it's good in Solo Q, doesn't mean it's good in competitive. They're completely different games. I don't care what Meteos is doing, Nidalee Jungle is kinda of nonsensical. Of course Meteos could probably make it work. I wouldn't equate Soraka Top to Nidalee Jungle at all lol.

Who exactly is "spamming it"? I haven't even seen it once. I browsed Dyrus' history just random and he has played her once. He played Rammus top too a lot. Is that a good pick too?

actually i wasn't aiming at you particularly i was talking in general even thought you were in one of those 3 games. no wonder you recognized yourself. not everything is viable in competitive but everything can work in solo Q. Sure if you start trolling whenever someone pick nidalee jungle just because he picked nidalee jungle and he's not meteos it'll never work. for example i destroyed on ranked with jayce jungle, if it was with people with that mentality would've never worked since they would troll as soon as they would see jayce jungle

I was in the Soraka jungle game, but we were gonna troll from before champ select. I was playing Teemo first time too lol. I think it was your first Raka game.

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Who exactly is "spamming it"? I haven't even seen it once. I browsed Dyrus' history just random and he has played her once. He played Rammus top too a lot. Is that a good pick too?

Man next people will say Teemo ADC is great.

Nidalee was a random example I saw him play it once.

I see it in A TON of streamed games. SirchEz was even spamming it at one point. If I search on Probuilds, there's Support, Mid (seems so but maybe more damage-oriented Top builds), Top, and Jungle builds.

I don't really know about Jungle, since it's less gold. But Soraka Top can work well. You're unkillable, you can dive in situations you usually can't, because of her heal. She can give more mana, heal, and bonus armor for teammates for even greater amounts because she builds more AP than a Support usually would when you get something like Chalice/Morello's and Rylai's. More AP also shreds MR with her Q. The damage with her E also scales with Mana, so Frozen Heart is a perfect item on Tank Soraka. Despite she being a wake laner, she can push really quickly and abuse the right match-ups if played correctly. The problem is getting her through the laning phase and that she can't really initiate fights as much, althought Rylai's slow on her Q can work decently. That's why it's something you probably won't see in competitive...that and she probably isn't good in 2v1 at all. It's incredibly annoying in teamfights, since normally you would kill Support Soraka ASAP because of her heals, but you can't because she's a Tank. Focus her and the fight is lost...then that Ulti Heal boosted by her actually having items. SOOOO annoying.

I know it sounds silly, since she isn't even a good Support really, but it's nothing like Teemo ADC. The only thing with that is Teemo scales decently with Attack Speed, but other than that, building AD does nothing for him. THAT'S trolling, Soraka Top isn't.

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Originally Posted by scav

yeah fnatic went full squishy, they have 0 durability in teamfight

Full Tank Wukong with Rumble Ult on top of it would have been great. Would have preferred a different mid pick in that comp as well. Orianna, for example. Karthus might have been good too, but I don't know if he's Peke's kind of champ. Maybe Lissandra, Ziggs even.