A lot of peope have had interest in this app over the last few weeks. Setting up a dedicated thread for it.

Magic home allows for four hello home scenes to be run based on 2 conditions. 1) Occupancy of your home 2) the current “sun state”.

This allows for you to have a sunrise and sunset mode for when your home is occupied and not occupied. I currently have mine setup like this.

Away Day - Will trigger when everyone is away and the sun is up

Away Night - Will trigger when everyone is away and the sun is down

Home Day - Will trigger when someone is home and the sun is up

Home Night - Will trigger when someone is home and the sun is down

Everything is automated and it will trigger on each event. So everytime the “sun state” changes it will check to see if anyone is home as well as everytime the presence changes it will check to see if the sun is up. This has become a integral part in my automation.

I hope this helps people

I have submitted this for official SmartThings integration but it has not begun review yet. Its been in queue for 2 weeks or so. Hoping it will be looked at soon.

This is great - but to be useful for me, I just need to ask for FOUR more states :o):

Home and Asleep (HVAC settings change for cooler/warmer sleeping, Smart Alarm sets for increased detection while I’m sleeping, all internal lights turn off no matter when I turned them on, etc.) Sunrise/Sunset doesn’t matter

Home and Watching Football (OK, so I’ve probably over done it a bit… you probably get the point I’m trying to make)

I totally appreciate that not everyone thinks this way, but for me, modes are really about the activities I do when I’m home (or not). If I need some things to happen at sunrise/sunset, they generally aren’t related to whether I am home or not (e.g., turn on the driveway lights when it gets dark, off at midnight, on at 5am for the snow plow guy, off at sunrise - all whether I am home or not). Trying to merge solar cycles and my daily routine cycles is stretching things beyond practical, IMHO.

This is great - but to be useful for me, I just need to ask for FOUR more states :o):

Home and Asleep (HVAC settings change for cooler/warmer sleeping, Smart Alarm sets for increased detection while I’m sleeping, all internal lights turn off no matter when I turned them on, etc.) Sunrise/Sunset doesn’t matter
Home and Awake (HVAC warrms up the house, HW recirculator warms up the water, coffee maker starts, morning light scene turns on for coffee & reading the paper, TV turns on, etc.
Home and Working (everything but my office pretty much shut down)
Home and Watching Football (OK, so I’ve probably over done it a bit… you probably get the point I’m trying to make)

I do these types of things outside of the app using additional home phrases. This is just re foundation that I build upon. For instance I have a home - Work phrase the triggers at 8Am if I am home that boots up my PC and turns on my office heater.

This app shouldn’t be considered a end all be all but foundational for other things:)

Tim thanks again. This app is a great solution to automatic mode switching with sunrise/sunset.
Is there any probability of a sunrise/sunset offset option in a future release just to avoid having to stack multiple hello home routines in front of it to account for those of us up and moving well before the sunrise?

to avoid having to stack multiple hello home routines in front of it to account for those of us up and moving well before the sunrise?

The beauty of STs is that the apps are “simple” this allows for more granularity. Once you start making a “one size fits all” app you slow down creativity.

Plus with a sunset offset it wouldn’t really help in most cases. For instance if there was an offset here it will change you mode to Home Day right? If you want lights to turn on during early morning hours then lights will forever turn on by motion in home day mode. Doesn’t really make sense for 2 hours of darkness. You should create a “Getting Ready for work mode” that runs when motion is detected between x and y times.

IMO less is not more when it comes to modes. More is more. One mode for every single thing you need done. My app will just take care of you coming and going:) and making sure your house is setup for you at sunrise and sunset:)

Last I counted I have 30 or so modes. Very few which I ever have to interact with. It’s all automated for the most part through hello home. One for every situation.

This is an awesome app idea. I wanted this exact setup; I did it manually with 6 separate smartapps in Mode Magic, which was a hassle. An off-the-shelf solution would have been easier. Although I do use the offset.

Any idea why my Modes switched from Away Day to Home Night and skipped Away Night? Returned home to close to sunset maybe? Some kind of delay?
When using Magic Home is it normal to get the “Setting Sunset Mode” notification twice? Thanks!

Any idea why my Modes switched from Away Day to Home Night and skipped Away Night?

Are your settings correct in the app? If they are I’m guessing you just returned home right around sunset. What time was sunset in your area today? If it was around 5:36 then that would be the correct assumption.

Dave:

When using Magic Home is it normal to get the “Setting Sunset Mode” notification twice?