Change the UI size?

Hi,

I have just dowloaded Gimp 2.8.16 and installed it on my Windows 10 - 64 bit PC. However, the user interface with all the icons and texts are too small for me and it is very hard to read what is on the screen. My monitor size is 3440 X 1440. Of course I can change the size of everything on the screen by using the Display settings in Windows 10 and set the slider to, say, 150%. But then ALL applications and windows on the screen get bigger, even if I do not want them to.

Is there a way to customize the size of textlabels, toobars, icons etc in the user interface of GIMP?

From: gimp-user-list on behalf of DAWO
Sent: 25 March 2016 09:57
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Cc: notifications@gimpusers.com
Subject: [Gimp-user] Change the UI size?
Hi,
I have just dowloaded Gimp 2.8.16 and installed it on my Windows 10 - 64 bit PC.
However, the user interface with all the icons and texts are too small for me
and it is very hard to read what is on the screen. My monitor size is 3440 X
1440. Of course I can change the size of everything on the screen by using the
Display settings in Windows 10 and set the slider to, say, 150%. But then ALL
applications and windows on the screen get bigger, even if I do not want them
to.
Is there a way to customize the size of textlabels, toobars, icons etc in the
user interface of GIMP?
Thanks!
--
DAWO (via www.gimpusers.com/forums)

It might be a good idea, for users like me, to explain how to go about installing the theme. As I did not realize that these were zipped files, I started off by just putting the downloaded color theme and symbolic theme files in what I thought would be the right folder, but, understandably nothing happened. I then did a search on the file suffix in order to find out that they were 7zip-files. I have now downloaded and instlled 7zip, and unzipped the files and I now have a folder named "Color-48" with several subfolders and files in it, but I am uncertain what to do? Should I place the WHOLE folder as it is in the Themes folder? Or just some of the files? And on my Windows 10 PC, I found one Gimp Themes folder in "C-> User-> Dag -> .gim-2.9-> themes" would that be the correct folder?

Change the UI size?

Sorry I haven't explained in more detail what to do with the .7z files.

Yes, you need to put the Color-48 folder (containing all the subfolders) into your personal GIMP profile Themes folder (C:\Users\Dag\.gimp-2.8\Themes).

BUT - you're using a GIMP 2.9.? version? If you have the option in your Edit>>Preferences>>Icon Theme, then the theme you have downloaded is not going to work.

With 2.9.3.???, Icon Themes now control which icons you get BUT the theme controls which size icons, and as far as I know, no-one has made a suitable pair that specify and supply larger size icons. Quite frankly, it's a mess at the moment.

Kevin

From: gimp-user-list on behalf of DAWO
Sent: 26 March 2016 10:58
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Cc: notifications@gimpusers.com
Subject: [Gimp-user] Change the UI size?
>There are future plans to allow users to allow easier control over the
>icon sizes etc, but at the moment it can be done using add-on themes.
>
>You will find links to some themes that I have made that use bigger
>icons (either 32x32 or 48x48) that others have found useful here:
>http://gimpforums.com/thread-large-size-icons-themes
>
>Kevin
Thank you very much, Kevin!
It might be a good idea, for users like me, to explain how to go about
installing the theme. As I did not realize that these were zipped files, I
started off by just putting the downloaded color theme and symbolic theme files
in what I thought would be the right folder, but, understandably nothing
happened. I then did a search on the file suffix in order to find out that they
were 7zip-files. I have now downloaded and instlled 7zip, and unzipped the files
and I now have a folder named "Color-48" with several subfolders and files in
it, but I am uncertain what to do? Should I place the WHOLE folder as it is in
the Themes folder? Or just some of the files? And on my Windows 10 PC, I found
one Gimp Themes folder in "C-> User-> Dag -> .gim-2.9-> themes" would that be
the correct folder?
Regards,
Dag
--
DAWO (via www.gimpusers.com/forums)

Change the UI size?

BUT - you're using a GIMP 2.9.? version? If you have the option in
your Edit>>Preferences>>Icon Theme, then the theme you have downloaded
is not going to work.

Thanks again, Kevin!

The version I downloaded and installed, is 2.8.16, so I will go ahead and try your icons. It seems that this is a problem for others as well which a quick search with Google verified. And I think it should be one of the most prioritized issues for the Gimp developer community as it “accessibility” defines who can use the software, and who cannot.2

Change the UI size?

BUT - you're using a GIMP 2.9.? version? If you have the option in
your Edit>>Preferences>>Icon Theme, then the theme you have downloaded
is not going to work.

Thanks again, Kevin!

The version I downloaded and installed, is 2.8.16, so I will go ahead and try
your icons. It seems that this is a problem for others as well which a quick
search with Google verified. And I think it should be one of the most
prioritized issues for the Gimp developer community as it “accessibility”
defines who can use the software, and who cannot.2

I agree, since I am working on the icon size customization (the
"future plans" Kevin told about earlier). Though I must say it's not
easy to prioritize and see what others are going through because I
don't have access to any HiDPI screen, not even to test, even less for
my own daily use.

I have also a question, about when you say that text is also too
small. From what I understood, GIMP should simply follow whatever text
size settings your operating system is configured with. Are you saying
that font size is bigger everywhere else but not in GIMP? I think this
should not happen (but once again, I can hardly test myself without
such a screen).Thanks.

From: gimp-user-list on behalf of Jehan Pags
Sent: 01 April 2016 19:20
To: DAWO
Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org; notifications@gimpusers.com
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Change the UI size?
Hi,
On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 9:49 AM, DAWO wrote:
>
>>
>>BUT - you're using a GIMP 2.9.? version? If you have the option in
>>your Edit>>Preferences>>Icon Theme, then the theme you have downloaded
>>is not going to work.
>
> Thanks again, Kevin!
>
> The version I downloaded and installed, is 2.8.16, so I will go ahead and try
> your icons. It seems that this is a problem for others as well which a quick
> search with Google verified. And I think it should be one of the most
> prioritized issues for the Gimp developer community as it accessibility
> defines who can use the software, and who cannot.2
I agree, since I am working on the icon size customization (the
"future plans" Kevin told about earlier). Though I must say it's not
easy to prioritize and see what others are going through because I
don't have access to any HiDPI screen, not even to test, even less for
my own daily use.
I have also a question, about when you say that text is also too
small. From what I understood, GIMP should simply follow whatever text
size settings your operating system is configured with. Are you saying
that font size is bigger everywhere else but not in GIMP? I think this
should not happen (but once again, I can hardly test myself without
such a screen).
Thanks.
Jehan
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Hi,
I agree, since I am working on the icon size customization (the
"future plans" Kevin told about earlier). Though I must say it's not
easy to prioritize and see what others are going through because I
don't have access to any HiDPI screen, not even to test, even less for
my own daily use.

I have also a question, about when you say that text is also too
small. From what I understood, GIMP should simply follow whatever text
size settings your operating system is configured with. Are you saying
that font size is bigger everywhere else but not in GIMP? I think this
should not happen (but once again, I can hardly test myself without
such a screen).
Thanks.

Jehan

On my Surface 4 Pro with the highest resolution Windows set the scaling to
about 200% automatically. Maybe that is part of the problem.

Hi Kevin the link you provided for themes is not working and I have similar problems as DAWO. The icons in toolbox are so small you can hardly see they're even there or what they are. My displays default is 3840 X 2160, however I've tried lowering to 1920 X1080 and still no change. Everything else on my PC is large except the pesky icons.
Any help is greatly appreciated.

Hi Kevin the link you provided for themes is not working and I have similar
problems as DAWO. The icons in toolbox are so small you can hardly see they're
even there or what they are. My displays default is 3840 X 2160, however I've
tried lowering to 1920 X1080 and still no change. Everything else on my PC is
large except the pesky icons.Any help is greatly appreciated.

Change the UI size?

I am having the same problem with the toolbox icons appearing too small to be useable, ever since switching from an HP using Windows 10 to a SUrf.ace Pro 4 in Octovber 2016.

To try to fix the problem this week,
I upgraded to gimp 2.8.16 (from 2.8.14)
Downloaded the themes, Symbolic - Big 32, & Symbolic - Big 48.
Opened Gimp and under preferences chose one of the new themes, then the other.

The toolbox remains the same size.
I already have the my display scaling at 250%

I know this is an ongoing promlem, but if I'm missing something that would help, please advise.

Change the UI size?

Hi,

I have just dowloaded Gimp 2.8.16 and installed it on my Windows 10 -
64 bit PC. However, the user interface with all the icons and texts
are too small for me and it is very hard to read what is on the
screen. My monitor size is 3440 X 1440. Of course I can change the
size of everything on the screen by using the Display settings in
Windows 10 and set the slider to, say, 150%. But then ALL applications
and windows on the screen get bigger, even if I do not want them to.

Is there a way to customize the size of textlabels, toobars, icons etc
in the user interface of GIMP?

Thanks!

I've been searching for a solution to this for several releases and still no joy. Gimp DOES NOT follow Windows scaling or text size convention no matter what scale or text size. I have to work in Gimp with the Magnifyer and still my eyes are bleeding after a few minutes. My resolution is 1920x1080, the screenshot below is with Windows (10) scaling at 125% (I've tried them all) and the font size is set to 14. You can see the results in Thunderbird on the right following Windows but Gimp on the left does not. I've tried all the themes I can find and none of them are larger fonts either.

Change the UI size?

On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 6:48 AM, MJHig wrote:

Hi,

I have just dowloaded Gimp 2.8.16 and installed it on my Windows 10 -
64 bit PC. However, the user interface with all the icons and texts
are too small for me and it is very hard to read what is on the
screen. My monitor size is 3440 X 1440. Of course I can change the
size of everything on the screen by using the Display settings in
Windows 10 and set the slider to, say, 150%. But then ALL applications
and windows on the screen get bigger, even if I do not want them to.

Is there a way to customize the size of textlabels, toobars, icons etc
in the user interface of GIMP?

Thanks!

I've been searching for a solution to this for several releases and still
nojoy. Gimp DOES NOT follow Windows scaling or text size convention no
matter whatscale or text size. I have to work in Gimp with the Magnifyer and still my
eyesare bleeding after a few minutes. My resolution is 1920x1080, the
screenshotbelow is with Windows (10) scaling at 125% (I've tried them all) and the
fontsize is set to 14. You can see the results in Thunderbird on the right
followingWindows but Gimp on the left does not. I've tried all the themes I can
find andnone of them are larger fonts either.

I think I have answered this multiple times including in bold letters on

my website. The answer is slightly complicated but not overtly so.

You can do one of 2 things:

1. If you are using 2.9 series on Windows 8 or above 64bit, you can
download my GIMP build from my website and all will be well.

2. If you don't wish to do the above, do the following. Please note that
this involves editing your registry. If you don't know what that is or not
comfortable doing so, then you should ask some expert to do it for you. In
either case, please be sure to backup your registry just in case. This
procedure should not affect any other application and create a problem. So,
here goes:

b. Download the following manifest https:/
www.partha.com/temp/gimp.exe.manifest. It's an XML file that tells Windows
that GIMP is not DPI aware. Please make sure when you download that there
are no extraneous extensions added by your browser. Save this file in the
same folder as your gimp.exe binary. If the GIMP binary is gimp-2.9.exe
then change the manifest filename to gimp-2.9.exe.manifest. Again, it must
reside in the same folder as the GIMP binary.

Change the UI size?

1. If you are using 2.9 series on Windows 8 or above 64bit, you can
download my GIMP build from my website and all will be well.

2. If you don't wish to do the above, do the following. Please note
that
this involves editing your registry. If you don't know what that is or
not
comfortable doing so, then you should ask some expert to do it for
you. In
either case, please be sure to backup your registry just in case. This
procedure should not affect any other application and create a
problem. So,
here goes:

b. Download the following manifest https:/
www.partha.com/temp/gimp.exe.manifest. It's an XML file that tells
Windows
that GIMP is not DPI aware. Please make sure when you download that
there
are no extraneous extensions added by your browser. Save this file in
the
same folder as your gimp.exe binary. If the GIMP binary is
gimp-2.9.exe
then change the manifest filename to gimp-2.9.exe.manifest. Again, it
must
reside in the same folder as the GIMP binary.

Thanks so much Partha, I followed method 2 as I'm still using 8.2 and all appears well. Gimp loaded very slow scanning over again the first launch causing concern but subsequent launch was normal and followed Windows DPI scaling, thanks again.

Change the UI size?

What would it take to be able to improve font readability in the UI? The image url below gives a few examples of what's possible. Please understand, for many people Gimp would only start to be usable with the large option shown.

Change the UI size?

Thanks for your reply. Follow up questions:

1) You don't don't believe adding an option for a larger font size to the base product as part of the default install, is a high enough priority relative to the backlog to merit near term consideration? Anecdotally there seem to be a lot of requests for it. Please consider this is not a convenience, or a time saving feature. A significant amount of users are simply not functional with an 8pt font.

2) Regarding your suggestion: I'm not sure it would be easy, but if the team is willing to consider (1) then I am willing to help in modifying a theme and possibly code if required.

The reason it could take some work is that when more real estate is needed sometimes there are careful considerations required to get the needed space without disrupting the existing balance and form and the UI. But you never know, we could get lucky and have it be easy.

Change the UI size?

1) You don't don't believe adding an option for a larger font size to the base
product as part of the default install, is a high enough priority relative to
the backlog to merit near term consideration? Anecdotally there seem to be a
lot of requests for it. Please consider this is not a convenience, or a time
saving feature. A significant amount of users are simply not functional with an
8pt font.

With my larger themes for 2.8 I was asked to NOT set the font by some users because the operating system/window manager is setting the font independently of GIMP. I believe the same is true of the 2.9 themes, where the font-size setting is present but commented out of the gtkrc files.

So the way forward is a small piece of documentation to explain how to edit the theme gtkrc file for those users who need to change it.

If on your windows the name extensions are not displayed do following steps (for windows 10):

1. In the Explorer click on View
2. Select the checkbox for "Fileextensions"

Then use the attached file or create by yourself: Therefor create a Textfile in the Folder where gimp is installed, named: gimp-2.8.exe.manifest. (Maybe you need Administrator rights, so create the File on your desktop and copy it to the folder after it)

Put following text into that file and save it.

-----------------------

false

-----------------------

Now you should be able to start Gimp with normal scaling.

Hope it helps,

Aamer.

Hi,

I have just dowloaded Gimp 2.8.16 and installed it on my Windows 10 -
64 bit PC. However, the user interface with all the icons and texts
are too small for me and it is very hard to read what is on the
screen. My monitor size is 3440 X 1440. Of course I can change the
size of everything on the screen by using the Display settings in
Windows 10 and set the slider to, say, 150%. But then ALL applications
and windows on the screen get bigger, even if I do not want them to.

Is there a way to customize the size of textlabels, toobars, icons etc
in the user interface of GIMP?

Change the UI size?

Thanks, Partha! Worked like a charm! I'll take a look at this manifest file and see if I can modify it for a couple of other programs I've run into this problem with. Seems to be a common Surface issue.

my website. The answer is slightly complicated but not overtly so.

You can do one of 2 things:

1. If you are using 2.9 series on Windows 8 or above 64bit, you can
download my GIMP build from my website and all will be well.

2. If you don't wish to do the above, do the following. Please note
that
this involves editing your registry. If you don't know what that is or
not
comfortable doing so, then you should ask some expert to do it for
you. In
either case, please be sure to backup your registry just in case. This
procedure should not affect any other application and create a
problem. So,
here goes:

b. Download the following manifest https:/
www.partha.com/temp/gimp.exe.manifest. It's an XML file that tells
Windows
that GIMP is not DPI aware. Please make sure when you download that
there
are no extraneous extensions added by your browser. Save this file in
the
same folder as your gimp.exe binary. If the GIMP binary is
gimp-2.9.exe
then change the manifest filename to gimp-2.9.exe.manifest. Again, it
must
reside in the same folder as the GIMP binary.

Change the UI size?

Thanks, Partha! Worked like a charm! I'll take a look at this manifest
file and see if I can modify it for a couple of other programs I've
run into this problem with. Seems to be a common Surface issue.

I also have a Surface Pro 4 but the issue is only with GIMP, not with PS or any other application. GIMPs UI is so zoomed in that I can barely make out the text, much less hover over anything an click. I also tried the above "solution" but that definitely wasn't a fix for me. The large icons are a plus but this is pretty far from user friendly. The current Linux build has no issues and this issue actually does persist outside of the Surface and on my other Windows 10 PC. Is there any intention on making this program usable for Windows?

Change the UI size?

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 10:48 AM, pbarden wrote:

Thanks, Partha! Worked like a charm! I'll take a look at this manifest
file and see if I can modify it for a couple of other programs I've
run into this problem with. Seems to be a common Surface issue.

I also have a Surface Pro 4 but the issue is only with GIMP, not with PS
or anyother application. GIMPs UI is so zoomed in that I can barely make out the
text,much less hover over anything an click. I also tried the above "solution"
butthat definitely wasn't a fix for me. The large icons are a plus but this is
pretty far from user friendly. The current Linux build has no issues and
thisissue actually does persist outside of the Surface and on my other Windows
10PC. Is there any intention on making this program usable for Windows?

Since you put the solution is "quotes", I assume somehow the solution
failed you? You provide no information on what failed for you. You claim
that Linux has no issues and the issue persists on your other Windows 10
machine.

I have a 4k 17" laptop and the solution is just fine on my machine. If you
see my website, I have screenshots provided. Perhaps you can provide a
screenshot and tell us exactly what you tried?

Change the UI size?

Since you put the solution is "quotes", I assume somehow the solution
failed you? You provide no information on what failed for you. You
claim
that Linux has no issues and the issue persists on your other Windows
10
machine.

I have a 4k 17" laptop and the solution is just fine on my machine. If
you
see my website, I have screenshots provided. Perhaps you can provide a
screenshot and tell us exactly what you tried?

Thanks,
Partha

Sorry to say, now in 2018, that this did nothing for my GIMP:
I'm on Windows 10 Pro, hi-dpi display and the registry + manifest solution seems to have made absolutely zero difference in the usability (sizes of icons and text) in GIMP. My version is 2.8.22.