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I think the talk is that it's going to be Pay monthly, but eventually it will be free to play.

Right now they have 1.7 million followers. There is more then that because I for one didn't elect to be a follower and I'm sure many others didn't, but lets just use that as a baseline. Right now they stand to get $105,000,000 just from game sales alone the first month. Then they will have a cash flow of $25,000,000 a month off of subscriptions. That's probably a very conservative number, but based off that I think it will be a long while before they go free to play. This isn't just a run of the mill game like Neverwinter or the many other quick-build MMOs. It's deep and has a lot of appeal unlike SWTOR. That game had a lot of appeal but was very linear and shallow. Hell I maxed out in the first week. Everything was silver spoon. ESO, I made it to level 10 in 3 days and never felt like I was dragging.

Id rather pay 15$ a month instead of it being F2P and having micro transactionsr and not as much content. Not sure if ill play Elder scrolls either way but i dont understand the 15$ plus buying the game is to much money argument. Most games you buy never have a new update and offer a couple hours of play time. Even the games that have updates charge you for them.

Id rather pay 15$ a month instead of it being F2P and having micro transactionsr and not as much content. Not sure if ill play Elder scrolls either way but i dont understand the 15$ plus buying the game is to much money argument. Most games you buy never have a new update and offer a couple hours of play time. Even the games that have updates charge you for them.

I agree with you and Yancey. The monthly fee is essential to a good game. Look at the F2P games, they are quick-build, money grabs. Just thrown together to grab a few bucks before the game goes in the can. EQ, EQ2, Wow, Vanguard..all the good games in the past had monthly subs and yes you had to pay for the game too. I know some of those are free to download now, but that wasn't the case when they were brand new.

Also there was a study were they found that people actually spent waaay more money on micro-transactions then the normal sub cost. But Zenimax and Bethesda both said that micro-transactions do not fit into the Elders Scroll lore or tradition. That it takes away from the immersion.

Just read the ESO had over 5 million beta accounts this past weekend. Damn. To put it into perspective.."That's 350 times as many people as TSW had at launch, 2 times as many people as ever bought GW2 and 5 times population WOW had when it started"

Right now they have 1.7 million followers. There is more then that because I for one didn't elect to be a follower and I'm sure many others didn't, but lets just use that as a baseline. Right now they stand to get $105,000,000 just from game sales alone the first month. Then they will have a cash flow of $25,000,000 a month off of subscriptions. That's probably a very conservative number, but based off that I think it will be a long while before they go free to play. This isn't just a run of the mill game like Neverwinter or the many other quick-build MMOs. It's deep and has a lot of appeal unlike SWTOR. That game had a lot of appeal but was very linear and shallow. Hell I maxed out in the first week. Everything was silver spoon. ESO, I made it to level 10 in 3 days and never felt like I was dragging.

I was just quoting a video on IGN. The people on there are saying the main reason SWTOR went F2P was the amount of time it took to get new content out, with the high end graphics, and voice acting added in. Now will ESO have this issue, that is to be seen. The good thing about this is that it seems like ESO took the BETA test and collected information and responded to what the players wanted. On top of that they already saw the shortcomings of SWTOR, and other games before it, and will probably have enough gameplay so they can keep up. It all remains to be seen. I can say this could be the new big MMO from other other post, or can go F2P. If I was a betting man and seeing how much of a response it's getting though, and the fact it's on PC and the consoles. I would bet it will succeed.

I was just quoting a video on IGN. The people on there are saying the main reason SWTOR went F2P was the amount of time it took to get new content out, with the high end graphics, and voice acting added in. Now will ESO have this issue, that is to be seen. The good thing about this is that it seems like ESO took the BETA test and collected information and responded to what the players wanted. On top of that they already saw the shortcomings of SWTOR, and other games before it, and will probably have enough gameplay so they can keep up. It all remains to be seen. I can say this could be the new big MMO from other other post, or can go F2P. If I was a betting man and seeing how much of a response it's getting though, and the fact it's on PC and the consoles. I would bet it will succeed.

I hear ya. I'm hoping for the best but it could tank. The thing is ESO seems to have a lot more going for it then SWTOR had. They are very well staff and very professional and this is the only game they have going atm. Whereas I think EA and Bioware just sort of threw SWTOR out there to see if it would stick. SWTOR severely lacked content. I remember I was one of the first to hit max cap on our server (and that never happens lol) and it didn't take long at all. But after that it was like, Ok what do I do now. PVP was a very closed in horrible mess. But ESO already has Colgrum in the works, but it wont be in at release. This is a level 50, 12 man "Raid" playground or adventure area. They said its roughly 2/3s the size of a regular map and it's almost ready. So that tells me they are already planning ahead for the guys who run through as fast as they can.

You want a good indication of how well ESO is doing with pre-orders and how well they think they are doing numbers wise, check this out. This is straight from todays AMA (Ask Anything) on reddit. This is directly from Matt Firor himself.

I am looking forward to playing tomorrow. Should be fun. Trying to decide if I go Sorc or Temp. Thinking Sorc w a resto staff at 10 so I can damage and heal

Something to keep in mind. We tried 3 level 12 dungeons with a hybrid healer/dd and they wasn't able to keep us up. Then we got a healer/healer and had no issues. The holy trinity is alive and well in ESO even though they let us choose many skill lines. A true Tank/Healer/DD will still rule in the game. We tried one dungeon without a tank and that was total failure. I'm going pure DK tank, sword and board.