China-Vatican Dirty Deal? | China Uncensored

The Vatican seeks accommodation with China, but at the expense of Christian lives.

Transcript : On this episode of China Uncensored,
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Hoooly See!
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Hi, welcome to China Uncensored.
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I’m your host Chris Chappell.
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The Vatican.
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Known for priceless works of art,
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top secret archives,
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and Jude Law's pet kangaroo.
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At least one of those things is not real.
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Probably.
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Anyway, last week,
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the Vatican held a summit on organ trafficking
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and transplant tourism.
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And the real-life, not young pope has called these things
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a new form of slavery
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and a crime against humanity.
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So everyone was a little surprised
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when the Vatican invited this man to speak,
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China’s transplant chief,
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Dr. Huang Jiefu.
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Why?
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Well, it’s kind of like holding a summit
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on how to stop people from stealing food,
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and inviting the Hamburglar
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as your keynote speaker.
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Dr. Huang Jiefu has been accused of being a part of,
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and covering up,
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the Chinese regime's prolific organ trafficking
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and transplant tourism.
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Holy See?
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More like Holy NOT See.
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No, not Nazi!
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Not See, like, they're not seeing the obvious!
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Uh, moving on.
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The Catholic Church approves of organ donation and transplantation,
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a tradition dating back to this guy.
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But I’m pretty sure there’s some kind of prohibition
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against a government killing people for their organs.
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I think might be covered by one of the commandments.
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I mean, it’s been a long time since I went to Bible school,
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but that makes sense, right?
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Except that’s exactly what the Chinese regime has been doing.
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There is a mountain of evidence
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that China has a large and complex system
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to kill prisoners of conscience and harvest their organs
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for transplant.
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A single organ can fetch 6 figures,
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so a lot of people in China are profiting from this.
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This report released last year
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estimates that between 60,000 and 100,000 organs
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are taken from innocent people in China every year.
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Now for years,
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the Communist Party was able to hide what they were doing,
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but it's not as easy now as it used to be.
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People are wising up.
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For instance,
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this declaration last year by the European Parliament
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condemned China's organ harvesting.
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Then there’s this one from the US House of Representatives.
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A major liver transplant journal,
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Liver International,
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just retracted a study by Chinese liver surgeons
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because it seemed like the donors weren’t so voluntary.
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And mainstream media are actually reporting on it as well.
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Without using words like "allegedly."
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Dr. Huang Jiefu,
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despite trying to paint himself as a reformer,
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has personally been involved in some sketchy things.
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In 2005,
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he performed a high profile public demonstration of a liver transplant.
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Just to be on the safe side,
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he ordered two extra matching livers as back ups.
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They were never used.
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For those of you who aren’t transplant surgeons,
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let me explain the problem with that.
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As the Guardian puts it,
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“Livers are extremely sensitive and need to be removed quickly,
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and are often unsuitable for transplantation
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by the time the patient dies.”
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So to be able to order two extra livers
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means Chinese hospitals must have had a pool of people
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already set aside,
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with all their blood work done
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so they could match the organs,
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and still alive,
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so their livers could be harvested.
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So where do China’s 60,000 to 100,000 organs
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every year come from?
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According to the report I mentioned,
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they come from Falun Gong adherents,
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the Uyghur ethnic group,
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Tibetans,
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and House Christians.
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So the Chinese regime is killing Christians for their organs,
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and then sending their representative to a conference in the Vatican
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on how to stop organ trafficking and transplant tourism.
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For the past few years,
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Dr. Huang has been traveling around the world,
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trying to convince everyone that China's organ transplant system
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is fine now and made up of voluntary donors.
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No one said that prisoners couldn't volunteer, right?
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As you can see in that quote,
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there's another sneaky thing Dr. Huang does.
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He's trying to make it sound like the Communist Party
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only uses death-row criminals for organs.
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When it really is mostly using prisoners of conscience--
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people who the Party is persecuting for their beliefs.
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You can understand why so many people people were mad.
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The Chinese regime wanted to use its presence at this summit
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to show that hey,
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our organ transplant system is totally legit
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and accepted by the rest of the world.
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You might argue maybe the Vatican
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made an innocent mistake by inviting Dr. Huang.
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They didn’t know.
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But when the international outcry went out about this,
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their official response left something to be desired.
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They said the summit was meant to be an
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“academic exercise,
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and not a reprise of contentious political assertions.”
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Yeah, the Vatican.
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They never get involved in politics.
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But seriously,
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why would the Vatican invite the guy not only involved in,
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but trying to cover up the same crimes against humanity
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the Pope has called out?
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The guy who’s also very likely indirectly involved
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in killing Christians inside of China?
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Well it could be a coincidence.
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But the Vatican is trying to work out a deal
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with the Chinese Communist Party
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over the appointment of bishops.
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Around the world,
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the Roman Catholic Church is responsible
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for appointing its bishops.
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But in the 1950s,
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the Chinese Communist Party set up its own organization
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to do that.
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It’s called the Chinese Patriotic Catholic Association.
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Because you can believe in God,
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after you believe in the Party.
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I'm being serious.
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The Chinese Patriotic Catholic Association
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is under the jurisdiction of the Communist Party.
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So if you want to be Catholic in China,
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you have two choices:
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One: Belong to the “patriotic” church,
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where your highest authority is not Father,
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the Son, and the Holy Spirit,
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but the officially atheist Communist Party.
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Or Two: belong to an underground church,
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and risk being arrested or having your organs harvested.
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Neither of these are great options.
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And when the Catholic Church has tried
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to appoint their own bishops or priests in China,
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they tend to get kidnapped and arrested.
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So that's a problem.
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But recently the Cardinal of Hong Kong
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said that the Holy See and China have reached
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“a preliminary consensus...
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that will lead to an agreement over the appointment
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of bishops [in China].”
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So basically the Catholic church is considering
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making a deal with the Communist Party.
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The agreement is ostensibly over the appointment of bishops,
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but ultimately involves the entire issue
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of religious freedom in China, because,
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as China’s leader puts it,
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religious groups must adhere to the leadership
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of the Communist Party.
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The same Party that’s harvesting Christians’ organs,
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selling them for profit,
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and then sending their top doctor to the Vatican
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to lie about it.
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That Communist Party.
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So there’s concern that the Church
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might be sacrificing human rights and religious freedom
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in order to establish diplomatic ties
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and get more control over bishops in China.
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Well, as Cardinal Tong put it,
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“The moral principle of the Church teaches us
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to choose the lesser of two evils.”
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So what do you think?
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I’d especially love to hear from our Catholic viewers.
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Leave your comments below.
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Thanks for watching this episode of China Uncensored.
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Once again, I’m your host Chris Chappell.
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See you next time.

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