Halo, God-loving viewers.
Today, we will begin
a three-part program
featuring an interview
with Ms. Marge DeVivo
from the Unites States,
a trusted disciple
of the great spiritual saint
of the Himalayas –
Haidakhan Babaji.

Haidakhan Babaji is
an immortal Mahavatar,
meaning a great Divine
being who can manifest
a human form at will.
He is believed
to be the same
mysterious Mahavatar
who is described in
Paramahansa Yogananda’s
fascinating book,
“Autobiography of a Yogi.”

Mahavatar,
the meaning of that
is that he didn’t come
through a woman’s body,
he just creates the body.

Babaji has
many different forms
and many incarnations
that he’s taken,
but he doesn’t do
normal incarnations
by being born, and
coming through a woman
as a little baby and all that.
He can form a body
anytime he wants to.
Now, the first place
that I heard about
Mahavatar Babaji
was when I read
“Autobiography of a Yogi”
by Paramahansa
Yogananda,
and that was in about
1970 through 1974.

It talked about
Mahavatar Babaji
as a being who
came to help the Earth,
that he and Jesus
worked in connection
with each other.
The other thing
that was said
was that any time
even you mentioned
Babaji’s name
in reverence, you receive
an instantaneous blessing.

And so when I read all of
that, I sat very quietly,
said his name,
and I did feel a blessing.
And so then
my other prayer that
I put out to the universe
right then and there was,
“If you are in a body now,
I want to see you.”
And I said it with
all my heart and soul
and just felt like I really
had a deep connection
with Babaji.

In 1978,
Ms. DeVivo came
in contact with Babaji
through one of his students
who taught workshops
in the United States.
Finally, in 1982,
she and her partner
decided to travel to India
to meet him.

Who was this wondrous
being called Babaji
whom Ms. DeVivo was
going to visit in India?
Let’s take a look at
his story: In the 19th
and early 20th centuries,
a legendary Yogi
who was called
Haidakhan Babaji
appeared frequently
in Northern India
in the Himalayan region.
He was said to possess
all of the yogic siddhis
(supernatural powers),
and the people who met him
would experience
a deep bliss in his presence.
The last time he was seen
was in 1922, when
he disappeared before
a group of his students
in a ball of light.

Many people believed
that Haidakhan Babaji
was the immortal Babaji.
One of these was
the well-known saint
Mahendra Baba
who had met Babaji
in his youth
and diligently prophesied
that Babaji would appear
again in public soon.

In 1970,
a man from Haidakhan by
the name of Chandramani
had a dream in which
his long-deceased father,
who had been a devotee
of Haidakhan Baba,
appeared to him
and told him that
Babaji had reappeared
and that he should go
and look for him
in a certain cave.
Chandramani
went to the cave and
found a venerable old man
with a long white beard
sitting there.
The old man told him
to go back home and
come back in three days.
Chandramani went home
but returned immediately.
When he came back,
to his amazement,
instead of the old man
he found a young yogi
of angelic beauty
who seemed to be
only 20 to 22 years old.

The young saint
acknowledged that
he was Haidakhan Baba.
This “new” Babaji
who seemed to be
20 to 22 years old later
stated in the local court
that his age was 130 years.
The court acknowledged
that he was the same
Haidakhan Babaji
who had appeared
half a century earlier
in the same region.

Ms. Marge DeVivo
kindly shared about her
first meeting with Babaji
at his Haidakhan ashram
in the Himalayas.

When we got up there,
Babaji was down
in the water,
in the riverbed
taking his bath.
He would go down and
they would pour buckets
of water over him,
and whoever was asked
to come for the bath
was kind of a privileged.
And he watched us,
this took like 15 minutes
to walk from where we were
over to where he was.
We were walking
across the riverbed
trying to just stay calm.

Everything started
to tremble
as I got closer to him.
And so,
I finally got over to him
and the procedures
always say to touch his feet,
the tradition in India.
So I bent down
to touch his feet
and then stood up, and
in standing this close.
And he said,
“What your names?”
And I couldn’t –
I opened my mouth
and I knew
what my name was, but
I couldn’t say anything,
nothing would come out.

My partner says,
“Oh, our names,
what are our names?
I don’t remember
what our names are.”
So finally, he says,
“We’re Jim and Marge,”
and then I could
open my mouth and I said,
“and we came from
our teacher Emahmn.”
Emahmn was the one
who taught us
for that whole year,
and I knew that he was
very close to Emahmn.
And Babaji just turned
and he looked down
the riverbed
and he screamed,
“Emahmn, Emahmn!”
with all his force.
And then when
he turned back to us,
there was none of that.
He just looked at us,
and he told us
to go sit under a tree
where it was shady
because it was very hot.

So we finally sat
in the shade and
he came up to talk to us.
We’re sitting there
and kind of trembling,
in awe and unable to
really function at all.
He walked in front of us.
He just kept pacing
back and forth,
back and forth.
He was
building up this energy
back and forth.
And then
he grabbed a chapatti,
because it was lunch time
and there was
a plate of chapatti there.

He took a bite out of it
and then he breathed
on the rest of it.
And he went over to Jim
and he said, “Open,”
and he shoved the chapatti
in Jim’s mouth,
and Jim ate it.
And then he did
the same thing with me,
with a smaller one,
and the minute that food
got into our mouth
with his energy on it,
everything calmed down.

It was just
total peace, harmony,
“Here we are in India.
Isn’t this great?
Here is Babaji.”
And it felt like that was
all there was, and all that
there had ever been
was Babaji, and that
this was a normal life.
The only thing about that
was that as we went on
with our day, we realized
we couldn’t even
remember anything
from our other life.

We knew
that I had three sisters,
Jim had five sisters,
and neither of us
could remember
even one sister's name.
It was like,
this was the only life.
It wore off by the time
we were coming back.
But it stayed this way
the whole time
we were there really.
So that was a blessing
because we could go on
with daily life there
as if this is normal
and this is fine, because
it was such a complete
different lifestyle.

And if we had stayed
in that state of awe
that we had started out in,
I don't think we could
have stayed there at all.
It was just too intense.

“His eyes are dark
and sparkling, laughing,
full of bliss,
endless in their depth;
seeming to contain
or reflect the cosmos. …
His face is full,
like the sun.
His beauty is
beyond this world. …
His body is broad,
sometimes
quite large in stature.
At times, he seems
to carry the earth
in his belly. …
One devotee
had an experience
of entering Babaji's body
and in fact viewing,
seemingly,
the whole universe
contained therein.
Despite this load,
grace characterizes
all of his movements.

He walks, sometimes
carrying a staff, and his feet,
like the lotus flower,
do not seem
to rest on the ground.
At times
he leaves no footprints.
… Some people
who have carried him
report that he seems to
weigh almost nothing.”
“What one observes
in Babaji's
physical appearance
depends upon what
Babaji chooses to disclose.
Sheila, an Indian devotee,
first met Babaji in 1972.

… When
she first saw Babaji, she
spoke to him internally.
She asked that if he were
what he was reported
as being, he should
disclose himself to her.
For the next half hour,
as she continually
pinched herself
to make sure
she wasn't dreaming,
she stared at his face,
which changed
like a kaleidoscope,
from one form of God
to another,
running the gamut of
Hindu and other deities.
I have seen him also,
with my physical eyes,
as the great Lord Shiva…
One time I even saw
his face as Hanuman,
the beloved
monkey-faced god
who is said to be
a Shiva manifestation…
This fairest flower
of creation, ocean of mercy
without any motive;
why has he come
to the world?
To the worldly minded
it is impossible to
perceive Babaji's nature.

But God has few
to whom he whispers
in the ear.
It is for these that
he has come into the world.
This is what he said:
I am everywhere –
in your every breath.
I am come to help you
realize unity
beyond division.
I will show you a freedom
you have not imagined.
You must seek that unity
where there is an awareness
that we are all one
and the same.
You should seek harmony
in all that you do.
I am harmony...”

He gave us the mantra
“Om Namah Shivaya”
(I take refuge in God)
as the way to purify
and be in alignment
with ourselves.
And so,
while in his presence,
you could feel,
it was like a vibrational
Om Namah Shivaya
(I take refuge in God)
all over the land,
all around.

But the major things
were just how you knew
that he knew everything
about you,
and still loved you.
There was so much
unconditional love
coming out of him,
even though he knew
all my past, all my future.

That was mind-boggling,
I mean,
truly mind-boggling,
and to actually
feel unconditional love
from any being,
is something
I don’t think you get over.
And I think that’s
what had a lot of the people
really staying there
and wanting to be there
so much, is because
you felt that
total complete acceptance
and unconditional love.

Today, many years
after Ms. DeVivo studied
with Babaji in India,
and long since
he had left that form,
she is still communicating
and working with
her beloved teacher.
The mission is to spread
the eternal teachings of
Truth, Simplicity, and Love,
service to humanity,
and remembering God.

Upon Babaji’s instruction
for this mission,
Ms. Marge DeVivo
created a website
for all to freely access
his universal teachings
and an online
spiritual-minded
community at

Thank you for
your kind company today.
Please join us
next Sunday, October 24,
for the continuation
of our three-part program,
when we will hear
various accounts about
the miraculous immortal
saint, Mahavatar Babaji.

Now, please stay tuned
to Supreme Master
Television
for Our Noble Lineage,
right after
Noteworthy News.
Blessed be
the Divine within you.

Greetings and welcome
to A Journey through
Aesthetic Realms.
Today, we present
the 2nd of a 3-part series
on Sri Haidakhan Babaji,
featuring an interview
with Ms. Marge DeVivo,
who is one of Babaji’s
trusted disciples
from the United States.

Last week, we heard
the story of how
a young yogi who was
discovered in a cave in
Haidakhan, India in 1970
was believed to be
the legendary
Haidakhan Babaji
who lived in the 19th
and early 20th centuries.
Ms. DeVivo also shared
how she first came into
contact with him
at his Haidakhan ashram
in India.

Today, we’ll continue
our interview with
Ms. DeVivo about
her encounter with
the legendary saint
who is regarded by many
as the immortal
Mahavatar Babaji
who is described in
Yogananda’s
“Autobiography
of a Yogi.”

It was a constant
checking within and,
“Am I in alignment
or am I not?”

And he always gave
an indication
really quickly of when
you were in alignment.
He always gave
some sort of blessing or
something or gave you
a piece of fruit
or just smiled.
There was an immediate
acknowledgment anytime
you were in alignment.

But if you were
ever going to him
in expectation,
you didn't get anything.
He didn't even look
at you if you were not
right in the zone,
right on the beam
at that moment.
So, it was a great way
to know when
you're in alignment,
when you're not,
knowing that
your inner atmosphere is
the most important thing
around him
at every given moment.

Before I went, I knew that
his teachings were truth,
simplicity and love and
unity of all religions.
And then in Haidakhan,
you live that, because
there's people from
every country in the world
all visiting there
and you might all speak
a different language
most of the time.
But then when you went
into the temple,
you all sang in Sanskrit
and you all sang
the names of God.

Previously, Ms. DeVivo
shared with us that
so many people
wished to stay
in Babaji’s presence
largely because of
the unconditional love
which they felt from him.
Babaji had said:
“Whosoever comes to me
with love, then
I will show him/her love
beyond anything
imaginable.”

There was so much
unconditional love
coming out of him,
even though he knew
all my past, all my future.

That was mind-boggling,
I mean,
truly mind-boggling,
and to actually
feel unconditional love
from any being,
is something
I don’t think you get over.

You knew that he knew if
you weren’t doing what
you said you would do,
or if you weren’t treating
someone else
in the ashram exactly
very nicely, you knew
that he knew all of it.
And he would often
just burst into rooms.
It was an omnipresent,
omniscience type of
experience,
where you just knew,
okay the jig’s up,
there is no fake anything.

He knows me
from my core.
Who else can you
run into who will
make you really truly be
accountable to yourself?
And that was one of
the greatest blessings
of being there.

Illustrating Babaji’s
deep knowing is
the following experience
shared with Ms. Devivo
and others by a devotee
named Dan Brule.

“In kindergarten,
I was taught to squeeze
to the left side of
my chair in order to
make room for my
“Guardian Angel” to sit.
Deeply impressed,
I took these instructions
very seriously.
I remember consciously
and obediently forming
the secret habit of leaving
space beside me for what
the nuns and priests
told me was God's
heavenly messenger
and special protector,
my personally assigned
guide and helper.

I don't know when
I left that ritual behind,
or when that delightful
childhood game
faded away, but
I remember exactly
when the memory of it
was awakened.
It was August 1980.
It was my second day
in Haidakhan.
I was sitting in the shade
on a stone ledge, leaning
back against a wall.
[A] woman, who told me
that she had been
Babaji's disciple
for 8 lifetimes,
was screaming at me
as if I had just committed
a mortal sin!
She was threatening me
with a stick.
“Do you know

where you are sitting?
That's Babaji's room
behind you!
You can't sit there!”
A moment later Babaji
came whirling around
the corner of the building.
She began to prostrate
herself and attempted
to kiss his feet.
But he walked right
past her and snuggled up
alongside me on the seat.

He curled up
like a cute little boy,
his eyes sparkled,
he giggled like a child
in church!
The moment exploded
in a gentle burst of
white light!
And I was back at
that kindergarten desk.
I was looking into
the loving eyes of
my Guardian Angel!
Everything stopped.
He was, in that moment,
the most beautiful man
I had ever known!”

There are many
fascinating reports
about Babaji’s
supernatural powers:
In September 1970,
Babaji ascended
Mount Kailash in India
and sat on the summit
absolutely motionless
and without food, sleep,
or leaving his seat
for 45 days.

Chandramani,
the devotee who first
found Babaji in the cave
in Haidakhan,
went together
with the great saint
to Mount Kailash
and reported later:

“All this time
I was with him, but
not once did I see him
get up for anything,
not even to have his bath.
All this time he remained
sitting at one spot
absolutely motionless.
When he finally came out
from his deep meditation,
I asked him how
he would have his bath,
since I could not see
water anywhere.
He answered me:
“I order the wind to
fetch me water and
that is what I bathe with.”
Then I noticed that
his lovely long tresses
were dripping
with water…”

Chandramani also
recounted that not only
did Babaji not eat
for long periods of time,
but that also he himself
didn’t feel hungry
while staying with him.
However, once
when Chandramani was
very thirsty, Babaji
let water and milk
spring forth from
a Shivalingam, a stone
symbolizing Lord Shiva.

It has also been observed
that at times, Babaji’s
feet left no footprints,
that his clothes didn’t
get soiled when he was
walking in mud, and that
he was light as a feather
when carried
by someone else.
He was seen appearing
in different places
at the same time, and
a lion and a cobra who
came near him
behaved as though
they were household
animal companions.

Babaji was also said
to have the ability to
miraculously
multiply food:
The kitchen workers
in his ashram
experienced that
there was always
enough food for visitors,
even when suddenly
a bus with 100 visitors
came and they had
only prepared food
for 20 people.

Yet another fascinating
ability of
Haidakhan Babaji was
that he could speak
many languages –
without any accent!

Every time we’re away
from Babaji,
we'd say gosh,
we have to ask him all
these questions, and then
we get in his presence –
and there were
no questions.
The mind was just…
everything’s fine,
no questions,
no problems, nothing.

I finally wrote down all
the questions and said,
“Okay, this is it,
we’ve got to ask him
all these things.”
So we took that list,
went back to the ashram,
to the temple where
Babaji was for this
whole celebration.

So I’m reading
the questions, and he
was answering in Hindi.
If there were Indian
translators around,
he'd used them, but
if he was with you alone
he would speak your
language completely.
And not even
with an accent.
He would speak exactly
the way that you would
talk, actually.

Babaji said of himself, “I
am nobody and nothing.
This body has
no meaning.
I am only a mirror
in which you can
perceive yourself.”

It was so intense,
and so many things
happening at once.
It’s after you got home
that you could really
look at things and say,
“Okay, here’s what
he was showing me.”
And he was always
reflecting back to you
the way that you are,
the mirror is what
we talk about a lot.
I’m sure that’s with every
great spiritual teacher,
they’re a mirror.

Ms. Devivo recalls that
for a while, she had
a hard time getting along
with another disciple
at the ashram.
Silently aware of this,
Babaji set about to
heal their relationship
in a subtle way,
by gifting Ms. Devivo
a beautiful mala,
or a string of beads
used for meditation,
which had originally
been offered to him.

It was afterwards that
I found out that
the man who gave him
the rose quartz beads
was the one who I was
having the fight with.
And he was actually
a jeweler, and
he had gifted Babaji
with those beads, and
Babaji just automatically
gave them to me.
Then after that experience,
every time I saw
this man, all we talked
about was the beads,
which was perfect.

He hardly kept anything
for himself.
Everybody wanted to
bring gifts, and
he would just say,
“Office, kitchen…”
He was passing things
out, or even if he wore
a shirt once, then he
passed it to someone else,
constant movement of
energy, and never
hung on to anything at all
for himself.

Babaji lived a life of
utmost simplicity.
Even during winter,
he would bathe at 4
in the morning in the cold
Gautama Ganga River
and remain there
for an hour.
In the early years, he had
no room for himself,
and later he had
but a tiny room.
He ate sparingly.
Sri Haidakhan Babaji
clearly had come to Earth
not to receive.
He had said:
“I have come to give,
only to give.
Are you ready to receive?
I give everything
but few ask for
what I have really
come to give.”

While using his
physical vehicle, Babaji
took on the bad karma
of others to relieve them
of their suffering.

He was always taking
on karma, constantly.
I mean in Haidakhan
he was just glowing
with so much energy,
and by the time
we went to Vrindavan,
and there were
the hundreds of people
from morning till night,
he just looked like
he was in agony.

This was just one of
many ways that Babaji
was assisting humankind
with his vast
spiritual abilities.

It really looked like
it was very, very difficult
for a being like him
to come into
a physical body and
function in a way that
didn’t blow somebody
off the planet, because
he could do that.
It’s really important that
he tones it way down, he
gives you only as much
as you can handle.
And maybe just a little bit
more than that.

In describing
his great power, Babaji
likened himself to fire.
He said, “I am like fire.
Don’t stay too far away
or you will not
get the warmth.
But don’t get too near or
you may burn yourself.
Learn the right distance.”
Babaji had appeared
in 1970 and remained
in his physical form
for 14 years until 1984,
when he stopped his heart.
He had mentioned
many times
to his devotees that
he was going to leave.

Thank you,
elevated viewers,
for your company today.
Please join us again
next Sunday, October 31,
for the third and final part
of our interview with
Ms. Marge DeVivo
in getting to know
more about
Sri Haidakhan Babaji.
Be sure to tune in as
Supreme Master Ching Hai
shares her insights
about Babaji, the
wondrous immortal saint.

Now, please stay tuned to
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right after
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light guide you always.

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Haidakhan Babaji is
an immortal Mahavatar,
meaning a great Divine
being who can manifest
a human form at will.
He is believed
to be the same
mysterious Mahavatar
who is described in
Paramahansa Yogananda’s
fascinating book,
“Autobiography of a Yogi.”

Babaji had most recently
appeared to the public
in 1970 and remained
in his physical form
for 14 years until 1984.
Ms. Marge DeVivo is
one of Babaji’s
trusted disciples
from the United States.

In 1982,
while Ms. DeVivo and
her partner were studying
with Babaji in India at
his ashram in Haidakhan,
they received instructions
from Babaji to change
their farm at home
in Nebraska, USA
into an ashram.
Over many years,
Ms. DeVivo
faithfully carried out
Babaji’s instructions
to establish the ashram.
Then, in 1998,
to her amazement, she
started to receive emails
that said that they were
coming from Babaji!

I started getting emails
that said that
they were from Babaji,
and I had to go through
a whole big process
with that, because
how could Babaji
write an email?
He had left the body
in 1984.
I got these emails
that said now
it’s time for people
to focus on the teachings
more than the body,
because everybody
had wanted to be
with his body, but he said,
“The only reason
I ever took the body was
in order to have people
focus on the teachings.

And instead they all just
wanted to stay there
with me, instead of go out
and do their work.”
And of course, I’m going,
“Okay, where are you?
Can you call me
on the phone?
Can you do this,
can you do that?
And he would always
write back,
"Pinda Kacha,
Sabda Sacha."
And that means
“body is perishable,
the teachings are eternal.”

As Ms. DeVivo felt
a familiar deep wisdom
from the emails,
she became convinced
that they were really sent
by Babaji.

Every message
I got from him by email
was written
in the shortest amount
of words and the most
concentrated energy that
could ever be imagined,
and then he told me that
the ashram project had
become too complicated,
and that things were going
to become very difficult,
because he said,
“The way the world is now,
is that the Great Revolution
is happening,”
he called it
the “Maha Kranti.”
And it’s very important
to remain in Truth,
Simplicity and Love
during these times.

To be
an independent thinker
was like
the most important thing
you could do.
Be as sustainable
as you can.
And his favorite line
of mine is,
“Walk on the higher path
and follow no one.”
Because you’re following
your own heart, and if once
you’re purified enough
to follow your own heart,
everything goes just fine.

One day,
Ms. DeVivo learned
that a radio station
was able to conduct
an interview with Babaji!
The transcript
of the interview,
made available
on the internet,
sounded to her
very much like the emails
from Babaji.
When she asked
the radio station
how they got the interview,
she received
the following reply:

“Dear Ms. Devivo:
The Babaji interview
took place at least 3
or more years ago.
At that time
some of the programs
were transcribed.
Anyway,
we were at a health expo
and this middle aged man
approached us and said
that he was a channel
for Babaji
and that he would
have Babaji come forth
if we would put a link
to the Babaji website.

We don't know
who this person is
and never saw him again.
We couldn't find any
Babaji.net
website
but some months ago
someone said
that this site did exist,
so true to our word,
we put up the link.
The tape has been taped over
but I remember
someone mentioning
that the man had
a deep voice and the voice
that he channeled
was high pitched
and shy sounding.
Hope this helps.
Pathways Radio”

Very much surprised
by the radio interview,
Ms. DeVivo
wrote Babaji an email:

“Babaji,
This sure sounds like you.
What is the deal?”
ONS (Om Namah Shivaya)
Love,
Marge”

Her beloved teacher replied,
“Blessings:
It does sound like me.
Babaji”

Later, when others doubted
whether it was really
Babaji in the interview,
Babaji emailed
Ms. DeVivo as follows:
“Blessings:
I was in that body.
I knew the name
of my website years
BEFORE YOU decided
upon the name.
Understand?
I speak to many Hearts
in many ways.
You will learn of this.
Many will say this
and many will say that
about Babaji.

How can they know
anything about no body?
How can they know
anything about no thing?
If the mind tries to
put Babaji in one place,
in one body,
in one culture,
in one time,
in one form...
how can that mind
understand
how to use the Teachings
for spiritual growth?
Shall we live
in the dead past
or shall we move forward
through the eternal now.
Babaji”

The following is
the beginning of the 2000
interview with Babaji
conducted by
Pathway Radio:
Dr. Bob said,
“Welcome to the program.
We are waiting for
Babaji to appear.
This master has been seen
in different times
and places
and in different bodies
since recorded time.
He was last found
in a cave in
the Himalayan mountains
in an 18-year-old body.

He shared his teachings,
guidance, and message
until 1984
when he left that body...”
Babaji replied:
“[Halo] Bob.
Om Namah Shivaya
(Lord, Thy Will Be Done).”
Dr. Bob asked:
“Is that you Babaji?”
Babaji replied: “Yes.
I have come forth
to give a message
about the great changes
and how to live
in the higher path
and come through
these changes
by living in Truth,
Simplicity and Love
and by serving others
and connecting to God.”

Babaji went on to caution
about large changes
facing the world,
including challenges
caused by
humankind’s destruction
of the environment
and injustices and wars
with one another.
Babaji then outlined his
teachings of a higher path
that would help counter
the coming
negative consequences
of humans’ actions.

What he was saying is,
“It’s time
to be extremely simple,
make sure everything is
in alignment
with your purpose
and just live in
Truth, Simplicity, Love.
Service to humanity and
repeat the name of God
at all times,
and he gave us the name
“Om Namah Shivaya”
(Lord, Thy Will Be Done)
but he said
all names of God
are totally acceptable,
because as you repeat
the name of God, you’re
in alignment with Divine.

According to Babaji,
karma yoga
(service to humanity)
is the foremost means
to purify one’s heart
and to attain liberation.
Babaji also stressed
the basic precepts
of a saintly life.
He said, “One should
follow a vegetarian diet,
take no intoxicants...”

When Ms. DeVivo
started to receive emails
from Babaji and
shared them with others,
many people wished
to write to him
and ask for his advice.

And of course,
there’s people who think
I am making this up,
so I would just say,
“Okay, if you ever sat down
and talked with me,
you’d know that I can’t
make up answers like that.
It’s just not in me,
I don’t have that
kind of consciousness.”
And even if somebody
is sitting and making up
these answers somewhere,
they’re so right on
and they’re so poignant.
And a lot of people
would write,
“Well I didn’t even
ask him this part, but
he answered that part…”

Ms. DeVivo,
who diligently
passed others’ emails
to and from Babaji,
is now working to
publish the correspondences
in a book to benefit
even more people.

He said he had entered
a very frail body that
would not last very long,
but it would
last long enough
to complete this mission
of establishing
the global community
through the website and
get people communicating
with each other
about the teachings and
supporting each other.

To many people,
it remains
an incredible mystery:
How is it possible
for Babaji to enter
a new physical body
at will,
after leaving his old one?

Many Indians saw him
as an avatar of Shiva,
one of the three aspects
of God
in the Hindu cosmology.
Meanwhile,
Mr. Leonard Orr,
a foremost disciple
who was instrumental
in introducing
many Western seekers
to Babaji, said:
“I have lots of friends
all over the planet
who Babaji appears to
on a daily basis…
He’s more often
than not appeared to me
as [homeless people]
on the street
or little old ladies
on bicycles…”

“When Babaji
creates a body,”
Mr. Orr explained,
“he is descending
into physical existence,
and when immortal yogis
evolve into Godlike beings,
then they are ascending.
So there is a big difference
between a manifestation
of Babaji himself
and a human being.”

During an international
gathering in 2007,
Supreme Master Ching Hai
revealed
further understanding
about Babaji’s
truly exalted status
as the Divine Mahavatar.

A Master of high degree,
like Babaji, for example,
who is willing to remain
in the lower realm
of Astral domain
to assist other Masters
in salvation work
is a great being.
Even though
he is in the Astral Plane,
but he is a great being.
He is from Fifth Level,
super Fifth.

The highest Fifth Level.
A great being who forsakes
the indescribable bliss
of the Fifth Plane,
praised and admired
by all who know
this great sacrifice.
I also praise him.
He can be in the physical
and Astral realm at will,
depends on what needs
to be accomplished
at that moment.

If you have read
the autobiography
of Yogananda,
you would think
he is a physical being.
But he resides in the Astral.
He still can manifest
into the physical body
for a while,
just to do something
in the physical realm.
Hence,
the people who met him
at that time think that
he is a long-living Master.

Babaji: a being so full of
love, wisdom,
and compassion
for humankind.
Though called
the Immortal Saint,
in truth, he is even greater.

As Haidakhan Babaji
once said: “In the past
people had difficulty
being humane.
It is to bring the message
of humanity that
I have taken on a body.”
We conclude
today’s program
with the final words
that Babaji shared in
the 2000 radio interview,
a timely prophesy
for the planet:

“You are noticing
the changes in climate,
more extreme conditions
in temperature, larger
more powerful storms,
more occurrences
of volcanic and
earthquake activity
and more extremes
in the economies.
You notice the changes
in the perception of time.
Everything appears
to be speeding up…
After the Great Revolution,
this world
will enter a golden age.

The environment
will be in balance
and mankind will
have changed its ways by
living on the higher path.
There will be
tremendous technology.
It will take you to the stars
in this galaxy and beyond
to other galaxies.
You will become
a great race creating life
throughout the universe.
And you will meet up
with sentient beings
from other dimensions
of space-time…”
Babaji then concluded
with his loving reminder
to humankind:
“You are the eyes and ears
of the Universe.

You are the observers
of creation
and its myriad things.
And eventually...
this leads you
back to your real self...
the Creator...
Remember,
by just calling my name
I will hear you.
If you are open
I will guide you...
repeat my mantra...
live in truth, simplicity
and love... and remember
your purpose in this body
on this world is to serve...”

We are grateful to you,
Ms. Marge DeVivo,
for sharing the priceless
memories and thoughts
of Sri Babaji.
Wishing you all the best
as you continue
your entrusted mission
in bringing forth
the sacred teachings
for the world.
Blessed viewers, thank you
for your presence today.

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remember God with love
every moment of our lives.