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Re: Trans people

Some women that post here do so because they enjoy it: enjoy talking about queer/gay stuff, enjoy the company of gay guys, enjoy the banter, I assume those are similar reasons to why many of us men post. As far as I know we've only had one transgender poster on here (I'm sure there have been more). I really like that we have some women posting, and while I can see that it could be viewed as slightly odd given the name of the website that they choose to post here, there motivations are not really my business or even particularly interesting to me. I'd love to see more women and trans-folk posting.

Originally Posted by Enchanted

I respect and have absolutely nothing against the trans population.However,to be honest they kinda creep me out.

It sounds a bit like you may not respect and may also have something against trans folks.

Re: Trans people

I'm one of those who has been very pleased to see women here, and if anything I feel rather sad that nearly all of them have left. I don't feel any more "weird" about women (or transgendered, etc.) being here, than I feel about the car in front of me (stopped at the traffic light on East Jackson Street near the Walmart) being a Ford instead of a GM.

I have also known at least two guys who were absolutely straight, who preferred the company and social traits of gay guys to those of straight, in most situations. Nothing wrong with that. Is that any different, after all, than most of my best social times are around straight guys? (This is pure statistics at work, nothing else - there simply are a lot more straight guys out there. Socially I have no preference either way.)

Any women who want to be here...BRING IT ON! Please.

"Some people without brains do an awful lot of talking." -The Scarecrow, THE WIZARD OF OZ, 1939

Boss, to Sue: "Sorry, we have to downsize, and I need to lay you and Jack off." Sue to boss: "Can you just jack off? I feel like shit today."

Make, for a man, a fire - and he'll be warm for a few hours. Set a man afire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

Mexicans are pissed off about Trump's wall but, oh...they'll get over it.

Re: Trans people

Some issues are more important than others —the obesity epidemic is a life-threatening one— but I see no reason to censor the smaller issues. Lil seems talk as though this is a tabu issue. Something which must not be spoken? Something from which we must avert our eyes? A 'sacred cow' perhaps?

Re: Trans people

what's wrong with having women in here? we all came from one. just because you're not attracted to them sexually or romantically doesn't mean that you have to write them off like that. shoutout to all the females in here. all of them are very cool and down to earth.

one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry

Re: Trans people

^ you're not paying attention.

I was expressing

1. my unease that our safe place was being infiltrated by 'emasculating' 'females' who talk about their boyfriends and not wanting him to have a dick outline and also their celebrating their girlish twink-bands in the Male Celebrities thread

2. my innocent query that perhaps they're not female at all but someone who was going through the transition process

Re: Trans people

Where to start? Where to end?

1. The fact that you feel threatened and (potentially) emasculated by the presence of females is duly noted.

2. Anyone who would list their gender as "female" is either female-by-birth or in transition, and presumably some distance along in the transition process. In neither case do I think "not female at all" is an accurate designation.

3. Being a fan of Justin Bieber or One Direction or what have you makes one in favor of emasculation as much as me being a fan of Al Green makes me a Black Panther.

4. Women who come on the board and complain about "too much penis" presumably are outnumbered about ten thousand to one. They put as much "emasculating" pressure on us as elroy does in making us want to fuck our fathers.

5. The fact that you feel threatened and (potentially) emasculated by the presence of females is duly noted. I know that's the same as the first one, but it bears repeating.

Re: Trans people

I recall being offended that some female posters found certain avatars off-putting because they contained giant cum-dripping penises. I try to keep in perspective that not all male members go for that either, but I couldn't shake the feeling their reaction was coming from a different place, where as in most of society, it is still acceptable to shame and revile a man's dick.

And I am annoyed by the nonsense of third-wave feminism sometimes being spewed here, but frankly it makes a change from talking about racism all the time, and debunking a concept in one subject area is sometimes helpful in debunking the same concept in the other. See "privilege." And "male privilege." And "white privilege." Etc.

But apart from that one ugly incident I mentioned above, where really this site is here to celebrate the beauty and wonder of maleness including hard pulsing spurting dripping facial-spewing erect dicks, I'm just happy to have more people here who do generally appreciate gayness.

And I think it is great to build bridges between women and bi guys here. Bi guys are certainly welcome; a lot of them have a hard time finding women who won't freak out with the honest answers they're actually entitled to hear. Maybe JUB can help educate women or at least preach to the choir.

As far as transgender posters, I don't get your objection. FTM are interested in maleness. How does that take away from the atmosphere here? That's a person born female who relates so much to maleness that he wants to experience it personally. And MTFs are no more threatening to me than women who were born female. I do think that transgender people are at risk from having their natural bodies medicalized by a transgender industry. And I'd love to see more transgender people accept intermediate gender identities. Or unique gender identities. Or at least not be shoehorned into "male" vs. "female" when we've made so many advances in breaking down those walls. But that concern of mine shouldn't affect their place here. If anywhere, where else would this discussion occur?

I'm glad we all like masculinity, and the masculine path to intimacy, male or female, bi, trans, straight, gay....

Re: Trans people

Originally Posted by pat grimshaw

Yes, you're right Rat.

Some issues are more important than others —the obesity epidemic is a life-threatening one— but I see no reason to censor the smaller issues. Lil seems talk as though this is a tabu issue. Something which must not be spoken? Something from which we must avert our eyes? A 'sacred cow' perhaps?

I neither said nor implied that this was a taboo subject. I implied (and now I'm saying) that this thread is a train wreck. Not because of the ideas, but the way you express them. Your hyperbole and persecution complex make you impossible to take seriously.

As for women now wanting to see penis outlines in mens' pants, I agree with them. That's not something that needs to be shown in public. In private, I think a bulge in a man's pants is a wonderful sight. That's not a question of emasculation; it's a question of public vs private.

Recently I heard a 'wise guy' story that I had a party at my home for twenty-five men. It's an interesting story, but I don't know twenty-five men I'd want to invite to a party. ~Joan Crawford

Re: Trans people

Some of my closest friends indicate as gender confused, transvestives and transsexuals. They're a nice bunch. Very open minded.
Don't get how anyone could be creeped out by them if you knew them, they're normal people you know.

Re: Trans people

Originally Posted by Enchanted

Don't get me wrong.Sure I respect them as they have some big balls to cut their balls,because they want to live the way the always wanted to.I'm just saying that they kinda look creepy if the plastic surgery goes wrong,and generally does.

Let's hope they have the politeness to stay out of visual range. We don't want anything giving you worry lines, Waffles.