Pathetic is awesome. For some reason, I thought it was on the same album with M&Ms. I like the live one from the Mark, Tom and Travis show better though. It's a little bit faster and I think it works better at that tempo.

I tried to listen to some Saves The Day, but I couldn't really take the vocalist. There are very few pop punk bands I can listen to anymore since the majority of them have somewhat awful vocalists. Either that, or I just haven't heard the ones with good vocals.