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I never owned one of these kites so I jumped on it and got one of the aftermarket ones that into the wind was selling a while back . Its not the total same kite I dont think. heres my issue .

the kite flies like crap. I did move the bridles around a bit and got it tuned in better than it was but its still a dog . its a big heavey kite but even in a strong wind it is light on the lines and stalls in turns . I flew many of them in the late 80's but never owned on and I remember them flying better than this one .

Is there any trick to be done to this kite to make it fly better , and doese anyone have the stock spars sizes , Is it the same spreader bars as in the spin-off?

Jason,

Edit: just respelling the thread title to make searching easier in the future - zippy8

I think the original fabric, plus the way it was cut and sewn, then stretched as it got flown, makes a difference in it's flyability. The current combination of polyester and carbon spars may take longer to "break -in", but then it will last longer as well. My favorite hawaiian team kite was actually a 3/4 maui with an old stretched out sail. it was framed in pulltrude carbon though. Just my opinion.... i only know old school kites, and only a few at that.

Thank you everyone for the tips and help . I am sure that it jsut needs a little tweaking and flying . The ones that I flew as a Kid all had thicker / stiffer stand offs that was a mod. I have not done yet . also I might add I am flying it with 100' line. 200lb. ,

:-\just a little updaye if anyone is still reading this I went out today and flew the Team kite , last week was 10-15 gusty , Today was 15-25 , more in the 20-25 range and the kite did a lot better , could use a little more bridle tweaking but was like a whole nother kite than from last week in lighter winds . lost one of the little stand offs . but I plan on replacing them anyhow .

Either you still have serious bridle problems or your wind meter is way off. 20-25 mph? that Hawaiian should be dragging you all over the field and the nieghbors should be filing noise complaints. Or are we talking kph?

My guess is you have it set too light, bring your tow point down. I don't have a pure stock bridled Hawaiian anymore, both having been re-framed and adjusted to compensate. Maybe somebody can give you the stock measurements or I'll try to get mine out, I'm still close.

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DUDE , I was thinking the same thing when I first flew the kite . I flew my Spin Off with 150# line and was borderline and went to 200#. and the team kite I knew should have fulled my arms off but was lighter than the Spin off. I knew something was not out of wack some place . Thank you for the numbers and I now have something to shoot for . it never was the kite I rember , but with your guys help I hope too some time soon . thanks again

Still working on my Team Kite . I have the bridles as good as its goign to get I think , although its still light on the lines . I was flying my Renagade and it was pulling as hard as the team kite today .. The frame is stock on the team kite and it seems a bit heavey and bows a lot . will replacing the frame with carbon fiber be the answer? I know it should lighten up and make the frame more ridgid . I am not giving up yet can anyone give exact specs on there team kite ?

2540's were the choice back in the day. I did one of ours in Skyshark P400's you could go as light as the P200's using Skysharks or 1960's in pultruded. The center battens are ok or you could replace them, stiffness isn't a concern there and weight savings are negilible. Leading edges, spine and spreaders are all 32.5" making it a simple change except you will have to fabricate a new Center T. APA's will work for the speader to leading edges and are much nicer then those vinyls, Steve will hook you up with those, the right knocks and end caps for whatever spars you choose. Have him cut you a slightly longer ferrel for the Center T, there's a lot of stress there 4.5" - 5" might be better then the standard 4" T Ferrel. I can help you with the Center T if you need, although it looks like if you used a 2540 for the spine or another Skyshark ferrel as an insert with a Skyshark spine you might be able to use the FSD 6mm leading edge connector as the Center T but that will require Skyshark Spreaders since you will not get an external ferrel through it easily to use 2540 spreaders. You'll have to shorten the spine a bit with the FSD as a center T if you go with the Skyshark spine.

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The Kite is Stock, other than the stand offs I am using fiberglass rods , and the spine is off an old spin off with the spin off T from 1989 or so .... Just not what I want it to be now but I know it is in there someplace . Just have to find it

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