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"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father ... And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

"If the people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson

I know, you were joking, yadda yadda yadda, but you have absolutely no idea what's going on.

Head Trauma ok Tin Man.

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"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father ... And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

"If the people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson

I don't even care if it's proven to actually treat the cancer itself. If it gives patients an appetite that was absent before, if it gives them pain relief, hell, if it even just eases their burden a little...I don't see what the problem is with it.

I don't even care if it's proven to actually treat the cancer itself. If it gives patients an appetite that was absent before, if it gives them pain relief, hell, if it even just eases their burden a little...I don't see what the problem is with it.

Agree with appetite and pain relief. However, don't call it a treatment.

Let's say, hypothetically, 5000 people have astrocytoma and are being treated. Out of that, 1000 haven't responded to treatment, so they seek alternatives to conventional methods. Now, let's say spontaneous remission (it does happen) is 1%, so out of the original 1000, ten were "treated" successfully. They tell their family members "Hey, XYZ from Dr. dumbshit really worked".

And the other 990? Well, they had grave odds anyway, but they would be like the other ten had they come sooner! This is the basis of crock-as-shit alternative methods with no causal evidence.

Let's say, hypothetically, 5000 people have astrocytoma and are being treated. Out of that, 1000 haven't responded to treatment, so they seek alternatives to conventional methods. Now, let's say spontaneous remission (it does happen) is 1%, so of the 10 people who sought out other treatments, those ten were "treated" successfully. They tell their family members "Hey, XYZ from Dr. dumbshit really worked".

And the other 990? Well, they had grave odds anyway, but they would be like the other ten had they come sooner! This is the basis of crock-as-shit alternative methods with no causal evidence.

I've always believed just because doctors have been doing it one way for half a century doesn't mean its the best and only way. there should be advances in medicine and treatment and not the same old thing over and over that isn't even guaranteed to save your life. doctors aren't stupid, just stubborn.

Let's say a man fell on his head and then joined CP and claimed to be a doctor in training, most can tell he's clearly delusional yet a few see him as viable poster that adds a minimum to discussion. Dumpster fire Aids tree patient or just another bear that shat in the woods?

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"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father ... And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

"If the people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson

I've always believed just because doctors have been doing it one way for half a century doesn't mean its the best and only way. there should be advances in medicine and treatment and not the same old thing over and over that isn't even guaranteed to save your life. doctors aren't stupid, just stubborn.

Wait, we have? We've made no progress in cancer research/treatment over the last half century?

I am certain we are not using the same treatment over and over and expecting different results.

Unless you are talking about using scientific evidence to dictate research funding, which in that case, shame on us for trying to be efficient.