GRAND JUNCTION — The phone on the front desk at Caprock Academy rang incessantly Tuesday as a flustered receptionist admitted she had given up trying to answer it. The charter school's website was jammed. So was its Facebook page.The K-12 school was in the midst of ...

Just remember it is a charter school. They are popping up all over the state and country because these people are better than the public schools! You get what you ask for sometimes.

These are nonprofessional educators making ridiculous decisions. Guarantee this is only the tip of the iceberg in decisions made like this everyday. others we donat hear about because these people live under their own dome!

Steve old school wrote:Just remember it is a charter school. They are popping up all over the state and country because these people are better than the public schools! You get what you ask for sometimes.

These are nonprofessional educators making ridiculous decisions. Guarantee this is only the tip of the iceberg in decisions made like this everyday. others we donat hear about because these people live under their own dome!

Welcome to the Colorado Charter School page! In the state of Colorado charter schools are public schools that operate via a contract with an authorizer such as the local school district or, in some cases, the Colorado Charter School Institute. Our office administers the Colorado Charter School Startup and Implementation grant, provides technical assistance to charter schools and authorizers, processes waiver requests for the State Board of Education, collects data on charter schools, produces special topic studies and the state evaluation of charter schools, and responds to questions from the general public. - See more at: http://www.cde.state.co.us/cdechart/#st ... RpEFe.dpuf

Charter schools are public schools. They are funded and controlled by the same people that fund and control your neighborhood school. Their approach to learning may be a bit different than traditional schools, but that is where the difference ends.

I understand her being supportive but why should rules be bent for different circumstances? Why couldn't she wait 2 months until school is out? There are thousand of other ways to support her friend that don't violate the rules. If these are the rules, then why should she not have to abide by them? Now kids will be shaving their heads saying it's for a friend of a friend who has cancer. If you don't like it, then change the rule don't rag on the people enforcing them. If I take off work for a week to support a friend with cancer without following the proper rules, then guess what, I'm fired.

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If you think charter schools are run as public schools you have your head in the sand! Visit a public school and then a charter! A public school doesn't have a ludicrous un enforceable rule like this to begin with.

I am well aware of how charters are part of the public school system but they are run on a private school premise! They only go through the public schools so taxpayers foot the bill for the pseudo private environment!

Steve old school wrote:If you think charter schools are run as public schools you have your head in the sand! Visit a public school and then a charter! A public school doesn't have a ludicrous un enforceable rule like this to begin with.

Are you joking? I read articles all the time about how kids have gotten suspended from public school for bringing tiny lego guns to school and even biting a pop tart to make it look like a gun. Those are the idiotic rules.

I blame this less on the school, and more on a society that has begun to accept rules and the chain of command like gutless minions. That first teacher who saw this student probably thought, "well, it is for cancer, but the RULES say.... and if I make an exception.... you know, it's not my call, I'll elevate this to the school assistant principal." Then the assistant principal, caught between common sense and the "RULES" that can only be changed by a committee of his peers of course, decided to elevate this further to principal level. The principal, not wanting to challenge the rules set forth by the board, decided that the best course of action should be suspension.... you know, so that nobody on the board is bothered. Great idea! This little problem will quietly go away and then we can get back to following those cut and clear, black and white rules that make a good society work.

I understand her being supportive but why should rules be bent for different circumstances? Why couldn't she wait 2 months until school is out? There are thousand of other ways to support her friend that don't violate the rules. If these are the rules, then why should she not have to abide by them? Now kids will be shaving their heads saying it's for a friend of a friend who has cancer. If you don't like it, then change the rule don't rag on the people enforcing them. If I take off work for a week to support a friend with cancer without following the proper rules, then guess what, I'm fired.

I can just SEE it.

She, emotional after a visit with her suffering friend makes the decision to support her by shaving off her hair.

"Wait a minute" she thinks, "I need to go check school policy to see if they have a policy that describes how I should style my hair".

Yep..I'm sure that everyone would think of that when making the decision to shave of their hair to support their DYING friend.

Steve old school wrote:If you think charter schools are run as public schools you have your head in the sand! Visit a public school and then a charter! A public school doesn't have a ludicrous un enforceable rule like this to begin with.

Are you joking? I read articles all the time about how kids have gotten suspended from public school for bringing tiny lego guns to school and even biting a pop tart to make it look like a gun. Those are the idiotic rules.

Great...now where is the article that shows that the Charter school didn't suspend a child in the same situation?

Steve old school wrote:Just remember it is a charter school. They are popping up all over the state and country because these people are better than the public schools! You get what you ask for sometimes.

These are nonprofessional educators making ridiculous decisions. Guarantee this is only the tip of the iceberg in decisions made like this everyday. others we donat hear about because these people live under their own dome!

Welcome to the Colorado Charter School page! In the state of Colorado charter schools are public schools that operate via a contract with an authorizer such as the local school district or, in some cases, the Colorado Charter School Institute. Our office administers the Colorado Charter School Startup and Implementation grant, provides technical assistance to charter schools and authorizers, processes waiver requests for the State Board of Education, collects data on charter schools, produces special topic studies and the state evaluation of charter schools, and responds to questions from the general public. - See more at: http://www.cde.state.co.us/cdechart/#st ... RpEFe.dpuf

Charter schools are public schools. They are funded and controlled by the same people that fund and control your neighborhood school. Their approach to learning may be a bit different than traditional schools, but that is where the difference ends.

I was a principal for many years and if you think the only difference in charter schools and public schools is their approach to learning you might want to do a bit more research on the matter. I served children who are considered "at risk" and can't tell you how many of these children were "admitted" to charter schools, especially around October 1 count day, and then just didn't "fit" the school later and told they would need to return to their public school. It happened for kids just behind in their learning, for kids who were special ed students, and for my English Language Learners. In my view Charter Schools can be QUITE different from public schools.

Steve old school wrote:If you think charter schools are run as public schools you have your head in the sand! Visit a public school and then a charter! A public school doesn't have a ludicrous un enforceable rule like this to begin with.

Are you joking? I read articles all the time about how kids have gotten suspended from public school for bringing tiny lego guns to school and even biting a pop tart to make it look like a gun. Those are the idiotic rules.

Great...now where is the article that shows that the Charter school didn't suspend a child in the same situation?

I was directly refuting his comment that public schools didn't have "ludicrous un enforceable (sic) rules". Get with the program.

I understand her being supportive but why should rules be bent for different circumstances? Why couldn't she wait 2 months until school is out? There are thousand of other ways to support her friend that don't violate the rules. If these are the rules, then why should she not have to abide by them? Now kids will be shaving their heads saying it's for a friend of a friend who has cancer. If you don't like it, then change the rule don't rag on the people enforcing them. If I take off work for a week to support a friend with cancer without following the proper rules, then guess what, I'm fired.

I can just SEE it.

She, emotional after a visit with her suffering friend makes the decision to support her by shaving off her hair.

"Wait a minute" she thinks, "I need to go check school policy to see if they have a policy that describes how I should style my hair".

Yep..I'm sure that everyone would think of that when making the decision to shave of their hair to support their DYING friend.

Yeah, I'm sure an 11 year old can shave her head and Bic it all by herself... This is where good parenting comes into play to think of ramifications and say, you know what, why don't we wait a month and do it when school's out? In the mean time, lets make T-shirts and bracelets to support our friend. I know people don't want to be held accountable anymore but this is the real world.

I understand her being supportive but why should rules be bent for different circumstances? Why couldn't she wait 2 months until school is out? There are thousand of other ways to support her friend that don't violate the rules. If these are the rules, then why should she not have to abide by them? Now kids will be shaving their heads saying it's for a friend of a friend who has cancer. If you don't like it, then change the rule don't rag on the people enforcing them. If I take off work for a week to support a friend with cancer without following the proper rules, then guess what, I'm fired.

I can just SEE it.

She, emotional after a visit with her suffering friend makes the decision to support her by shaving off her hair.

"Wait a minute" she thinks, "I need to go check school policy to see if they have a policy that describes how I should style my hair".

Yep..I'm sure that everyone would think of that when making the decision to shave of their hair to support their DYING friend.

Yeah, I'm sure an 11 year old can shave her head and Bic it all by herself... This is where good parenting comes into play to think of ramifications and say, you know what, why don't we wait a month and do it when school's out? In the mean time, lets make T-shirts and bracelets to support our friend. I know people don't want to be held accountable anymore but this is the real world.

#1....unlikely that it would be the parent's first thought either. #2....Why would a school even have a "baldness" proscription? Is there some kind of elementary school gang out there that can be seen by shaving their heads bald?

It is more likely that this was a very vague policy, and the suspension was an attempt to enforce conformity rather than having any legitimacy in reasoning.

I understand her being supportive but why should rules be bent for different circumstances? Why couldn't she wait 2 months until school is out? There are thousand of other ways to support her friend that don't violate the rules. If these are the rules, then why should she not have to abide by them? Now kids will be shaving their heads saying it's for a friend of a friend who has cancer. If you don't like it, then change the rule don't rag on the people enforcing them. If I take off work for a week to support a friend with cancer without following the proper rules, then guess what, I'm fired.

I can just SEE it.

She, emotional after a visit with her suffering friend makes the decision to support her by shaving off her hair.

"Wait a minute" she thinks, "I need to go check school policy to see if they have a policy that describes how I should style my hair".

Yep..I'm sure that everyone would think of that when making the decision to shave of their hair to support their DYING friend.

Yeah, I'm sure an 11 year old can shave her head and Bic it all by herself... This is where good parenting comes into play to think of ramifications and say, you know what, why don't we wait a month and do it when school's out? In the mean time, lets make T-shirts and bracelets to support our friend. I know people don't want to be held accountable anymore but this is the real world.

#1....unlikely that it would be the parent's first thought either. #2....Why would a school even have a "baldness" proscription? Is there some kind of elementary school gang out there that can be seen by shaving their heads bald?

It is more likely that this was a very vague policy, and the suspension was an attempt to enforce conformity rather than having any legitimacy in reasoning.

#1 Every student is given a copy of the school policies and most likely the parent has to sign it. Ignorance of a rule is not an excuse.#2 It's called having some standards. Haven't you seen what public school kids wear? Pajamas and slippers are a common sight. Sorry if having some respect for their student's appearance bothers you. Plus it's a major distraction if 1 kid out of a class of 30 comes in completely bald don't you agree?

If it is against school rules to help a friend with cancer it is time for new rules or new administrators. Not everything is black and white. It is time to kick the Progressive narrow ideology to the curb...

all American wrote:If it is against school rules to help a friend with cancer it is time for new rules or new administrators. Not everything is black and white. It is time to kick the Progressive narrow ideology to the curb...

ROFLMAOIt always comes back to politics with you doesn't it? Blame progressives because an administrator is an idi0t. Really too bad that you are incapable of framing an argument that isn't set in a political frame.

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