you know how hard it is to stay "in the middle"? it's super easy to get from "slim, fatless, but no muscles" to "chuppy with a little tummy"... It's because you have no fat or real muscles and if you do anything wrong, eat that one cupcake for example, boom, fatty. little training and muscles are just good on a woman, they can eat more and more freely without getting fat.

Having muscles doesn't have anything to do with preventing you from getting fat. Muscles can often be a by-product of good exercise habits, but don't help in and of themselves. Good habits are what prevent you from getting fat. There are plenty of average or curvy girls out there who exercise enough to stay in ok shape, but don't end up with a lot of muscle. Genetics plays a large role too.

You're wrong. Muscles consume energy by simply existing, even if you don't exercise them at all. A really huge bodybuilder may lie on a couch all day and burn more calories than you would if you went to work, all because his muscles require energy to function. One pound of muscle burns approximately 5-6 calories per day at rest. You can look it up on the internet, but I don't think you will, so you can trust me on that, I did research.
He was absolutely correct, that's why he said muscular women don't need to watch out for fatty foods and carbs as much as skinny women do: the extra muscle can burn the excess energy.

I suppose I was being lazy in using the term "nothing" I apologize for that. Obviously the body burns calories through simple metabolic functions, and you're right that muscles use up energy. I don't dispute that. What I do disagree with is how much you seem to believe it helps.

We're talking about women here, my friend. So your bodybuilder example doesn't help your case as much as you think it does either. Female muscle has nowhere near as much bulk as male muscle. The only females who can come close are those who use TRT. The calories burned per day due to muscle simply existing would be less in women than men on average.

Also, the amount of calories a person burns is very dependent on their metabolic rate, and that tends to make a giant difference. I would pose that the "5-6 calories per hour" would vary greatly among different people. Finally, it's incredibly rare, when doing studies on bodybuilders and athletes, to find one who doesn't have incredible diet and exercise habits which would be raising their metabolic rates. Those rates would become lower if these people ditched their good habits. That was my point: The good habits are what make the difference, muscular or not.

Finally, a quick note: When you mention a specific number as an argument in a debate, ("5-6 calories per day") you really should cite your source. That's good form and it allows the other person to review the source of your data. Also, there's no need for snide comments like "You can look that up on the internet, but I don't think you will." Comments like that don't add anything to the debate and only serve, whether intentionally or not, to frustrate the other person. You're obviously intelligent enough to debate someone without remarks like that.

I'm probably setting myself up for a red sea of thumbs, but i guess it's just me, but i'd prefer a normal looking girl with a flat stomach over a toned out woman that has better abs than mine. Don't get me wrong girls that workout are hot, and i've been into fitness for awhile, but it's just my personal opinion. I'll go down with my comment with honor, now.