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The widow is gathering nettles for her children's dinner; a perfumed seigneur, delicately lounging in the Oeil de Boeuf, hath an alchemy whereby he will extract the third nettle and call it rent. ~ Carlyle

Re: Stick a fork in it....

Originally Posted by Rojo

Unless......

1964 comes back and the St. Louis Cardinals are disguised as the Philadelphia Phillies and the Cincinnati Reds are the St. Louis Cardinals.

Chico Ruiz stole home against the Phillies to win 1-0 and to start the Phils slide. When I heard Freel was at third today, I saw people type that Freel should steal home. I immediately thought of Chico Ruiz.

Re: Stick a fork in it....

It was over when the Reds headed to Milwaukee at 54-48 on July 28th and proceded to lose early and often after winning the first game. In fact, that's the watermark as they have gone 18-26 since. Death rattle stuff.

Before the AS break, the Reds were scoring 5.11 runs per game and allowing 5.33, a difference of 0.22 runs. They were one game over .500. Since the AS break they have averaged 4.35 runs and allowed an average of 4.79, a difference of 0.44 runs. In both cases the opponents were scoring more than us, but we've lost 0.76 runs per game of offensive production while reducing the runs allowed by 0.54. Pretty much a draw, but the bad part is if we could have maintained our 5.11 scoring average while holding the opposition to 4.79, we would have a runs per game advantage of 0.32 runs.

I'll leave it up to you to decide where the loss of runs came from, but (and beating a dead horse here) you might find it in Washington. A lot of pitchers have contiributed to allowing the opposition to score less runs, but no one from Washington can claim that.

Sorry, I just couldn't resist.

But, the end started on June 28th. No doubt about that.

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Re: Stick a fork in it....

Originally Posted by WVRedsFan

It was over when the Reds headed to Milwaukee at 54-48 on July 28th and proceded to lose early and often after winning the first game. In fact, that's the watermark as they have gone 18-26 since. Death rattle stuff.

Before the AS break, the Reds were scoring 5.11 runs per game and allowing 5.33, a difference of 0.22 runs. They were one game over .500. Since the AS break they have averaged 4.35 runs and allowed an average of 4.79, a difference of 0.44 runs. In both cases the opponents were scoring more than us, but we've lost 0.76 runs per game of offensive production while reducing the runs allowed by 0.54. Pretty much a draw, but the bad part is if we could have maintained our 5.11 scoring average while holding the opposition to 4.79, we would have a runs per game advantage of 0.32 runs.

If I had to pick a moment when the wheels came off, it was that looooong game in Philly. EZ took two losses in less than 24 hours and hasn't seen daylight since. His demise hurt. For a stretch Elizardo was the bridge between Harang/Arroyo and the roster fodder pulling up the end of the rotation.

But no matter the parsing, its a .500 team, pre- and post-. We were running against the odds the whole way. I'm still curious as to why this team doesn't score more runs.

The widow is gathering nettles for her children's dinner; a perfumed seigneur, delicately lounging in the Oeil de Boeuf, hath an alchemy whereby he will extract the third nettle and call it rent. ~ Carlyle

Re: Stick a fork in it....

Originally Posted by Rojo

If I had to pick a moment when the wheels came off, it was that looooong game in Philly. EZ took two losses in less than 24 hours and hasn't seen daylight since. His demise hurt. For a stretch Elizardo was the bridge between Harang/Arroyo and the roster fodder pulling up the end of the rotation.

I'd agree with you on this Rojo. Philly is when the wind really started to come out of their sails.

a super volcano of ridonkulous suckitude.

I simply don't have access to a "cares about RBI" place in my psyche. There is a "mildly curious about OBI%" alcove just before the acid filled lake guarded by robot snipers with lasers which leads to the "cares about RBI" antechamber though. - Nate

Re: Stick a fork in it....

Originally Posted by Rojo

If I had to pick a moment when the wheels came off, it was that looooong game in Philly. EZ took two losses in less than 24 hours and hasn't seen daylight since. His demise hurt. For a stretch Elizardo was the bridge between Harang/Arroyo and the roster fodder pulling up the end of the rotation.

But no matter the parsing, its a .500 team, pre- and post-. We were running against the odds the whole way. I'm still curious as to why this team doesn't score more runs.

I disagree with this. I don't think we were a .500 team before Wayne came aboard. .500 for this team is major improvement IMO... sadly.

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Re: Stick a fork in it....

I disagree with this. I don't think we were a .500 team before Wayne came aboard. .500 for this team is major improvement IMO... sadly.

I meant pre- and post- ASB. I cautiously support Wayne.

The widow is gathering nettles for her children's dinner; a perfumed seigneur, delicately lounging in the Oeil de Boeuf, hath an alchemy whereby he will extract the third nettle and call it rent. ~ Carlyle

Re: Stick a fork in it....

Originally Posted by Rojo

If I had to pick a moment when the wheels came off, it was that looooong game in Philly. EZ took two losses in less than 24 hours and hasn't seen daylight since. His demise hurt. For a stretch Elizardo was the bridge between Harang/Arroyo and the roster fodder pulling up the end of the rotation.

But no matter the parsing, its a .500 team, pre- and post-. We were running against the odds the whole way. I'm still curious as to why this team doesn't score more runs.

The offense is not scoring because all but Rich Aurilia have been slumping for an extended period of time. Isn't it just possible that Lopez and Kearns would also be going through the team-wide funk? Of course, Griffey's putrid second half and Dunn slumping for over a month have little to do with the offense tanking. It's simply because we traded two streaky hitters in their own right.

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