Group 1 is also the 20 player roster going tomorrow night so makes sense from that standpoint.

But yes, I'd say you could also read it that way. I think you could argue that some guys (maybe vitale or even Z) have a spot and it's up to others (Kobasew or Glass) to win them back. But I would bet money on the first.

I'm assuming Kobasew will be signed, Despres will make the team (possibly send down day 1 to get Vokoun on LTIR), Zolnierczyk will be sent down, and one of Engelland or D'agostini makes it with the other waived.

The guys in group B might be the ones on the outside looking in. Just how I interpreted it.

This is so interesting to me...

How can you look at these younger, hungrier guys like Sill, Ebbett, etc and still play Glass & Adams over these guys? Having 1 adams is okay, but Glass is just a joke. Just buy that scrub out and give one of these other guys a chance.

The guys in group B might be the ones on the outside looking in. Just how I interpreted it.

This is so interesting to me...

How can you look at these younger, hungrier guys like Sill, Ebbett, etc and still play Glass & Adams over these guys? Having 1 adams is okay, but Glass is just a joke. Just buy that scrub out and give one of these other guys a chance.

Bylsma "Despres top 4 next year" "Bennett top 6"

Negative.

Same Bylsma fringe player grinder crap.

Aside from Ebbett, I agree with you. I love Shero, but signing Adams for another two years is a pathetic joke. Give me Harry Z over Glass anyday of the week. At least he'll hit the crap out of people and be a pest, which is something we lack. I love HZ's speed and tenacity and sadly we're going to be stuck with Glass and Adams and his 40% faceoff rate and absolute zero offensive talent. I don't expect our 4th liners to score at a decent clip, but it would be nice if they could pump one every so often and at least just grind and keep the puck out of our end. Putting Glass with Adams basically eliminates any chance of EVER scoring in 82 games, and yet it's not even like they're a physical, fast, intimidating bunch.

I'm sorry, just my feelings. I don't like those two together. I appreciate Adams' warrior type play, but not for another two years. I'm just of the belief that we could have found a younger, faster guy to do the same job, at probably the same level, and might actually be able to have a faceoff % above 42% or whatever he is. Maybe if Adams was platooning, but with DB you know he'll be out there every night.

DelPen wrote:If you have a young 4th line and hope to have Adams be a 13th forward then hi being here for two more years is good. But him and Glass comprising a majority of a line is just horrible.

You still get $950K or so of cap release sending Glass down. Just do it. Kobasew is better in every facet of the game.

Agreed. And I'm not really harping on the Adams issue, I was just stating I didn't like the signing. By no means am I saying we're no longer Cup Contenders because of the Adams signing, everyone knows it's because of Fleury and Bylsma.

DelPen wrote:If you have a young 4th line and hope to have Adams be a 13th forward then hi being here for two more years is good. But him and Glass comprising a majority of a line is just horrible.

You still get $950K or so of cap release sending Glass down. Just do it. Kobasew is better in every facet of the game.

Agreed. And I'm not really harping on the Adams issue, I was just stating I didn't like the signing. By no means am I saying we're no longer Cup Contenders because of the Adams signing, everyone knows it's because of Fleury and Bylsma.

Funny thing, you demote Jeffrey and glass and keep 12 forwards we are about $95k over the cap. Adams makes $700k. You could have Ebbett or D'Agostini/Kobasew added and be under the cal and still keep Nisky and Despres and not risk Engellend. Bortuzzo on waivers and carry 8 defense for now.

Overpaid to keep Adams it appears. Amazing that $150k is going to cause a tough decision.