2014 Canadian Nationals

According to the mymsc.ca website, the 2014 Canadian Nationals will be May 16-19 (Friday-Monday) in Windsor, Ontario, at the brand-new Windsor International Aquatic and Training Centre, aka the Family Aquatic Complex. Windsor is about a half hour's drive from the Detroit airport. I've heard the meet is LCM, though I can't verify it.

I also can't verify the event order! Which events on which days? Apparently it's not published yet? Is it known from experience? Does anyone know for sure or have a guess? Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Swimosaur

According to the mymsc.ca website, the 2014 Canadian Nationals will be May 16-19 (Friday-Monday) in Windsor, Ontario, at the brand-new Windsor International Aquatic and Training Centre, aka the Family Aquatic Complex. Windsor is about a half hour's drive from the Detroit airport. I've heard the meet is LCM, though I can't verify it.

I also can't verify the event order! Which events on which days? Apparently it's not published yet? Is it known from experience? Does anyone know for sure or have a guess? Thanks.

Not sure yet about Nationals, but the Ontario Provincial meet is already posted and at the same place at the last weekend in March -- http://2014provincialchampionships.com/ -- with order of events up.

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The order of events is not consistent year to year but they seem to always do the 1500m on the Friday. LCM or SCM seems to be up to the host, not following any pattern. I would expect the registration to open soon.

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Michigan Masters is really looking forward to this meet. This is essentially a home meet for anyone in the greater Detroit area and suburbs. The facility was built in conjunction with the 2016 FINA World Short Course Championships and the last time that meet was held in North America was in 2004 in Indianapolis. The facility is big. They have a separate water park and 25 meter pool across from the 75 meter pool that can have up to 3 courses for SCM. They can swim up to 10 Lanes for both LCM and SCM and its 25 meters wide 75 meters long that is divided by bulkheads. The 50 meter section is 2.5 meters deep with a deeper section in the diving tank.

The facility is similar in make to Greensboro only larger because of the water park. The width and length are identical to Georgia Tech because that is a pool that is built at the international distances of 25 meters width wise. Having a championship meet run with 10 lanes allows this facility and others like it to cover 20% more swimmers during a meet. The facility is a few blocks over the USA border.

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Hi Glen:

I would say it would be better to stay in Windsor. You never know how much traffic you will get at the border with customs and it can get pretty crowded during the week and on the weekends. The meet starts early except Friday so my recommendation so if you stayed in Windsor you wouldn't have to deal with it. People that commute from Michigan will have to allow extra time for the stops at the border.

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The order of events is not consistent year to year but they seem to always do the 1500m on the Friday. LCM or SCM seems to be up to the host, not following any pattern. I would expect the registration to open soon.

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Originally Posted by Swimosaur

Registration is limited to 1000 swimmers.

A year or two ago there was a thread about distance events at USMS Nationals. Specifically, somebody commented that swimmers can't enter both the 800/1000 and 1500/1650 at USMS Nationals but they could at Canadian Masters Nationals and it was suggested USMS should be more flexible if Canada can somehow offer the double.

With a 1000 swimmer limit for a short course meet, I can now see why Canada can be more flexible for the distance event sessions. If USMS Short Course Nationals was (were?) limited to 1000 swimmers (and had two courses), we could offer the double as well.

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Originally Posted by Swimosaur

Is this the kind of flexibility you had in mind?

No, it was just that I now realize it wasn't a fair demand for somebody to say if Canadian Masters Nationals can permit distance swimmers to swim both, why can't USMS? At this time we don't limit our overall entries and we don't require two-to-a-lane for distance events. If we did either or both of those, we might be able to offer the double as well.

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Originally Posted by jroddin

No, it was just that I now realize it wasn't a fair demand for somebody to say if Canadian Masters Nationals can permit distance swimmers to swim both, why can't USMS?

We do allow 2 per lane. See USMS rule 102.10.4 Two-to-a-Lane Seeding in Distance Freestyle Events. However, 2 per lane makes it real difficult for the automated timing staff. On the rare occations when we have done this I will have a backup timing operator assisting to keep track of touches and finishes.

The opinions expressed in the above post are mine and not those of U.S. Masters Swimming.