Have you ever wanted to practice instead of playing a round or two? - www.DiscGolfersR.Us2015-03-03T19:09:49Zhttp://discgolfer.ning.com/forum/topics/have-you-ever-wanted-to-practice-instead-of-playing-a-round-or?feed=yes&xn_auth=noPlaying nothing but rounds is…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2011-12-05:1809917:Comment:24995342011-12-05T20:27:56.283ZAndrew Sandershttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/AndrewSanders
<p>Playing nothing but rounds is a lot like going to the gym and running for two minutes, benching 100 lbs., doing seven push-ups, doing three chin-ups, swimming one lap, jumping rope eight times, and jogging up one flight of steps. Will you get better? Sure......Eventually..... It's simply not as efficient as a good practice regimen.</p>
<p>Playing nothing but rounds is a lot like going to the gym and running for two minutes, benching 100 lbs., doing seven push-ups, doing three chin-ups, swimming one lap, jumping rope eight times, and jogging up one flight of steps. Will you get better? Sure......Eventually..... It's simply not as efficient as a good practice regimen.</p> No, that's not what it means.…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2011-12-05:1809917:Comment:24998292011-12-05T20:21:46.783ZMonTTy #794http://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/JohnMoncrief
<p>No, that's not what it means. Practice is drill....putting, throwing, approaching, executing the skills of the sport over &amp; over. "Perfect practice" means that you are using proper technique when you are in the field or back yard putting, not that it might not be right for everybody.</p>
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<p>No, that's not what it means. Practice is drill....putting, throwing, approaching, executing the skills of the sport over &amp; over. "Perfect practice" means that you are using proper technique when you are in the field or back yard putting, not that it might not be right for everybody.</p>
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<p> </p> You have contributed quite a…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2011-12-05:1809917:Comment:24995322011-12-05T19:57:17.930ZNate Nastyhttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/NateNasty
<p>You have contributed quite a bit to this forum. Eat Basket!</p>
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<p>You have contributed quite a bit to this forum. Eat Basket!</p>
<p></p> Here you make one good point,…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2011-12-05:1809917:Comment:24995302011-12-05T18:33:18.099ZAndrew Sandershttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/AndrewSanders
<p>Here you make one good point, playing rounds is great for the mental game. It really prepares you for your head game.</p>
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<p>You make one assumption here, as well. You say that at the age of 51 you have shots and your game won't change. Mark Ellis would have a few choice words for you on this subject. (and by choice words, I mean he would very calmly and nicely tell you that no one is ever done perfecting their shots.</p>
<p>Here you make one good point, playing rounds is great for the mental game. It really prepares you for your head game.</p>
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<p>You make one assumption here, as well. You say that at the age of 51 you have shots and your game won't change. Mark Ellis would have a few choice words for you on this subject. (and by choice words, I mean he would very calmly and nicely tell you that no one is ever done perfecting their shots.</p> well, while we're at logical…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2011-12-05:1809917:Comment:24999222011-12-05T18:28:59.787ZAndrew Sandershttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/AndrewSanders
<p>well, while we're at logical fallacies, this is a hasty generalization. his one-time practice and one-time failure have no bearing on our argument for practicing. You said nothing about a long-term, consistent practice regimen that we are supporting. If all the pros that practice don't matter by causation, why did you post this example?</p>
<p>well, while we're at logical fallacies, this is a hasty generalization. his one-time practice and one-time failure have no bearing on our argument for practicing. You said nothing about a long-term, consistent practice regimen that we are supporting. If all the pros that practice don't matter by causation, why did you post this example?</p> I heard a good one the other…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2011-12-05:1809917:Comment:24995282011-12-05T18:06:48.219ZJim Coonradthttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/MadDogCoonradt
<p>I heard a good one the other day. This guy says "Practice makes perfect". But then he says that is wrong and instead "Perfect practice makes perfect". In other words you have to find the practice that works for you. Just because practicing a certain way works for player X doesn't mean that exactly the same thing will work for me or anyone else. We are all motivated by different things and we have to choose what works for us.</p>
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<p>"Practice and play as if you have to kill the…</p>
<p>I heard a good one the other day. This guy says "Practice makes perfect". But then he says that is wrong and instead "Perfect practice makes perfect". In other words you have to find the practice that works for you. Just because practicing a certain way works for player X doesn't mean that exactly the same thing will work for me or anyone else. We are all motivated by different things and we have to choose what works for us.</p>
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<p>"Practice and play as if you have to kill the basket and eat it to survive ". This sounds good.</p>
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</div> It's called causation. You ca…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2011-12-05:1809917:Comment:24998252011-12-05T18:02:47.881ZJim Coonradthttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/MadDogCoonradt
<p>It's called causation. You can't just attribute something to one thing simply because of the end result. If you want to make the case that practice is what makes great players great then you have to prove it in some way. Just saying that great players practice doesn't prove anything. It's like saying that great players eat and go to the bathroom. Of course that is true, but that doesn't make them great players.</p>
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<p>I would not disagree that for some players practice outside of…</p>
<p>It's called causation. You can't just attribute something to one thing simply because of the end result. If you want to make the case that practice is what makes great players great then you have to prove it in some way. Just saying that great players practice doesn't prove anything. It's like saying that great players eat and go to the bathroom. Of course that is true, but that doesn't make them great players.</p>
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<p>I would not disagree that for some players practice outside of rounds can make a difference. I just don't believe that it is universal. </p>
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</div> practice and play as if you h…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2011-12-05:1809917:Comment:24996262011-12-05T13:18:52.688Zdavid swamp thing blackhttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/davidswampthingblack
<p>practice and play as if you have to kill the basket and eat it to survive.</p>
<p>practice and play as if you have to kill the basket and eat it to survive.</p> worst argument against practi…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2011-12-05:1809917:Comment:24991312011-12-05T06:52:04.086ZRon Suirhttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/RonSuir
<p>worst argument against practice ever made.</p>
<p>worst argument against practice ever made.</p> I realize that my last respon…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2011-12-05:1809917:Comment:24993242011-12-05T05:52:14.869ZJim Coonradthttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/MadDogCoonradt
<p>I realize that my last response was quite long but I have one more point to make. You can say that great players practice a lot but that doesn't prove that the practice is what makes them great. It only proves that great players are in the habit of practicing. In order to say that great players are great because of practice you would have to study someone for say a year where they practiced and then study them for say a year where they only played rounds and then compare the data. I know of…</p>
<p>I realize that my last response was quite long but I have one more point to make. You can say that great players practice a lot but that doesn't prove that the practice is what makes them great. It only proves that great players are in the habit of practicing. In order to say that great players are great because of practice you would have to study someone for say a year where they practiced and then study them for say a year where they only played rounds and then compare the data. I know of no such study so a statement like that is only an unproved supposition. You could just as well say that great players have great natural talent.</p>
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