May 15, 2011

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Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) refused on Sunday to back down from comments last week that the United States should have informed the Pakistani government that American officials knew where Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden was hiding.

"Why are we having trouble with the [Pakistani] government, why are we stirring up a civil war in Pakistan? It's because we've been bombing it," Paul said on "Fox News Sunday."

The libertarian Paul, who's running again for the Republican presidential nomination, said his opposition to the U.S. mission to kill bin Laden demonstrates the principles of his non-interventionist foreign policy.

"I'm saying that when you bomb a country, you violate their national security and sovereignty," Paul told host Chris Wallace. "We're doing that [in Pakistan]. At the same time, we're giving them billions of dollars. And you wonder why the [Pakistani] government gets in trouble with the people."

The Obama administration should have relied on the Pakistani government to arrest bin Laden and turn him over to U.S. authorities, Paul said.

Obama was right to take out Osama and not telling Pakistan, but he should have apologized directly and immediately for this action and explain that the did because of his fear that someone would have warned Osama. but the W.H. had to tell that they were even ready to fight Pakistani Army if they would have interfered, that was clearly too much and would have bee a clear act of war against Pakistan. Obama needs some help with foreign policy. How could Hilary accept all of this.

Pakistan isnt over so its hard to come to a conclusion. But I suspect the way we went about not getting bin laden was a poor choice. It will be MUCH harder to judge our allie, pakistan.. Since we didn't let them know beforehand, we cannot see how they would have reacted to bin laden. We could easily have killed bin laden even while letting the pakistan governmnet know, that we know.
Stake out the house, and see what happens after you tell pakistan.
The reaction of pakistan is worth more to me then killing bin laden. Besides, we could have killed him anyways...
Now we will NEVER know.

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It was illegal to go into a sovereign country and murder.
This is what Paul is saying.
The Executive have now opened themselves up to world persecution and prosecution.
Ron Paul would never expose himself or America to possible war crimes prosecution.

Dr. Paul's message is really being noticed. Steve Forbes has now called for the gold standard and to end the Federal Reserve, echoing what Ron Paul has said for 30 years. Ron Paul is a great man. Obama squashes the poor by giving trillions to banksters, foreign dictators, left-wing teachers and the military guns ammo and war machine manufacturers. Ron Paul wants to eliminate that so there is money for the poor. Ron Paul! Freedom!

The Osama brand name was worth over a trillion dollars and can never be replaced. The best that can be done is to turn Gadhafi and sons into mini-monsters and slain one at a time. The grand finally will be when Obama leads a swat team and slays Gadhafi personally.

As RP noted, KSM was arrested in Pakistan by the Pakistanis and then turned over to the US. Perhaps if RP had been President the relationship (however poor) between the US and Pakistan might not have deteriorated further to the point where the US felt it could no longer have any trust that they would assist in the capture.

Hmmmm...crossing into a crountry that is hiding the most wanted terrorist in the world and putting a couople of bullets in his AZZ is the most appropriate thing I can think of. Were Ron Paul President, we'd have never caught Osama Bin Laden and he would still be alive and out there planning the deaths of thousands more Americans. With Barack Obama as President, we are killing terrorists every day in Pakistan and OBL won't be planning the deaths of anyone else. His life and terrorist career is over.
I prefer the latter approach and will be supporting President Obama's re-election.

@BradKT
Unfortunately we're not just killing "terrorist" over there, there are also civilian deaths, and for every civilian death there is a mother, father, brother, sister, daughter, son, niece, nephew, aunt, uncle, lover, and few dozen best friends who now hate America with a passion and are much more likely to attack the US in some way shape or form then they would have been beforehand. Every life we take over in Pakistan makes this "war on terror" harder and harder to win.

The only thing wrong with the Ron Paul redux of the Osama bin Laden mission is that it requires magic pixie dust in order to work. Next, simply by uttering the phrase "Ayn Rand Abracadabra" Ron Paul will cause the federal deficit will disappear.

This is the man who said that the government of the USA is the “enemy of liberty”.
I don’t think that the USA is the enemy. Not “We the people” and not the government of we the people.
I think the USA has ENSURED liberty to hundreds of millions of people.
Now, we see him complaining about us taking out the man who likewise said the USA is the enemy.
No, I won’t ever support conservative Republican Ron Paul.

Jesus supposedly said "But I say to you, Do not make use of force against an evil man; but to him who gives you a blow on the right side of your face let the left be turned."
It would appear that Ron Paul is one of the few real Christians in the united states

Ron Paul is very SMART!!!! Every Republican should be criticizing Obama about his decisions, just as the Democrats do to Republicans. Saying it "SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE DIFFERENTLY" is not the same as saying bin laden shouldn't have been captured and killed in another fashion. People need to THINK with their heads and not their emotions!

Posted By: Ron Paul is very SMART!!!! Every Republican should be criticizing Obama about his decisions, just a | May 15, 2011 at 05:06 PM

Here we have a bigoted career politician posing as a Republican, when in fact he's a TEA party-er. He has absolutely no clue how the world turns. I can not believe he continues to get re-elected in a one party state like Texas. A sad commentary of the state of our state! Another fact is he has a con names Rand who is just as bigoted and openly stated his ideas last year.

"The Obama administration should have relied on the Pakistani government to arrest bin Laden and turn him over to U.S. authorities."
Ron doesn't know what he's talking about. Bin Laden could not have hidden in plain sight unless someone at some level in Pakistan knew where he was and kept quiet.
I'm really interested in figuring out what exactly Ron Paul DOES beside father a son that is as much of an ideologe as he is.
50 years on, he and his son are still *****ing about the civil rights act. It got passed and it's worked.
He's what - 70 years old and still a congressman? 70 years old and haven't figured out that ideology breaks down when confronted by reality and something has to get done?
Yeah, the Conservatives love him, but if he were really good, he'd been president by now & he isn't and won't be.

Paul is a principled guy, and I respect him for that. I'm sure we'd all have a fit if Pakistan ran a raid on our soil and killed one of their enemies in an American suburb.
Still, I'm glad our Seals took Osama out.

Strange how many folks are dragged along into the propaganda government run news stream. Bin Laden died in late 2001. He did kill some Americans in several attacks, but had nothing to do with 9/11.
He's a bogeyman, hiding in the closet.
These wars were planned years before 9/11. So was the "Patriot Act".

@ Principles Over Reality, JGR, morris wise, BradKT
In a dictatorship, a man can be killed on the word alone of a ruler; in a republic, all individuals (including you if falsely accused of being a terrorist) are given a fair trial so as to prove their innocence/guilt; this is the virtue Candidate Paul gas espoused
@ wwk
‘right to take out Osama (without) telling Pakistan’
If a fugitive accused of a crime flees to America, another country does not have a right to bomb the state of Texas or send their troops un-notified onto the soil of Virginia for example. Candidate Paul has likewise stated that the proper answer is to respect another nation’s sovereignty and work through mutual agreement when apprehending accused individuals.
@ Rudy Gonzales
1) ‘posing as a Republican when in fact he's a TEA party-er’
= bigoted commentary
Candidate Paul’s philosophy treats people as individuals on their own merits

ron paul is a complete fool.
Let the Pakistani's arrest bin laden and turn him over. Pure comedy.
ron paul has absolutely zero chance of ever becoming President and this latest display of complete and total ignorance will hopefully cost him his House seat.

if Pakistan is so awful why are we giving them billions of taxpayer dollars? and why is it ok for a foreign nation to send hit teams into another country without their permission? These are valid questions and Paul is right to ask. The trolls bashing him here are the crazy ones.

Posted By: if Pakistan is so awful why are we giving them billions of taxpayer dollars? and why is it ok for a | May 15, 2011 at 11:10 PM

The last few years, there was always something in the background about Ron Paul, that I couldn't quite put my finger on, that disturbed me about him. You know, he was saying all the right stuff you would expect a Libertarian to say. Now I know what the deep seeded problem really is ~ he's a *****!!!
Get a load of this will ya - "I'm saying that when you bomb a country, you violate their national security and sovereignty," Paul told host Chris Wallace.
Hey Ron,,, the Mensa rejection letter, is in the mail.......

Posted By: The last few years, there was always something in the background about Ron Paul, that I couldn't qui | May 16, 2011 at 01:31 AM

obama had no choice. once we located obl there could not be a screw up like bush did at tora bor a trillion dollars ago.but this will cause some trouble with our ally. could turn out for the worst but some things you just gotta do!

Ron,you are sadly incorrect(I suggest you read" Ghost Wars" by Steven Coll to get the history of this region It is sad we did not go after Bin Laden like we should have at Tora Bora in 2001 Would have saved us a trillion dollars plus

Posted By: Ron,you are sadly incorrect(I suggest you read" Ghost Wars" by Steven Coll to get the history of thi | May 16, 2011 at 01:39 PM