1. ALONE AGAIN OR (B)
From the first track it’s obvious that a large crowd is attendance for this show and both horns and strings are on hand to kick off the concert. There’s a ‘big’ sound to this with a more forceful rhythm section but it’s not quite as tight as I’ve heard on other attempts at this song. With Rusty Squeezebox helping on vocals in place of Bryan MacLean, Arthur sounds good early on.

2. A HOUSE IS NOT A MOTEL (A)
“I’d like to say it’s a pleasure and an honor being here this evening,” is Lee’s greeting after the leadoff track before diving into a lively version of “A House Is Not a Motel”. With all the instruments tuned just right, they throttle away, thrashing on the buildups through each verse and the lead guitar work emulates the studio version but soars more here sounding a bit like the lead guitar solo of “Love Is More Than Words” as it goes along. It’s the most thunderous moment of the live album, packing more power than any other released live version because of the solo.

3. ANDMOREAGAIN (A-)
Lee is in fine form so far being the prime focus more when we come to this song. His vocals can emulate his 60’s operatic pop style even this late in the band’s career and he touches the right nerves of emotion. The sympathetic and melodic backing is more polished here than on “Alone Again Or” hitting the correct notes more often.

4. THE DAILY PLANET (C+)
A decent performance of a song that isn’t too easy to pull off, this one doesn’t stand out, but it’s got some power. Its midsection is weaker as it continues to rock through moments where more dynamics were needed. Glossing over the intricacies of the arrangement mute it some and force it into a more generic rock style.

5. OLD MAN (B+)
By now, Arthur had gotten used to singing Bryan MacLean’s lead vocal and it shows again on “Old Man” as Lee’s sounds strong and in the right voice. The strings and horns have one rocky moment but bring the emotion that versions without them can’t pull off. “For Bryan and his mother” Lee dedicates afterward.

6. THE RED TELEPHONE (B+)
A very good version of “The Red Telephone” comes next without much flaw at all. Perhaps as good as the DVD concert, this version has everything we like most about the song. Still, it doesn’t stand out against the other live versions despite the execution.

7.MAYBE THE PEOPLE WOULD BE THE TIMES OR BETWEEN CLARK AND HILLDALE (A)
This is more like it-a tremendous performance evident by how tight the band are throughout. The horns are at their best here, especially on the syncopated middle with Lee’s spitting ‘ba – ba’s with rapid fire. It’s brighter than the last 4 tracks and feels like its challenging Love’s best live.

8.LIVE AND LET LIVE (A-)
Plenty of fiery electricity pulsing through this one as well as the two guitar solos rip hard and the focus is sharp and clear. The band display their chemistry well here on all sections of the track. They're definitely cooking on the hard rock material.

9. THE GOOD HUMOR MAN HE SEES EVERYTHING LIKE THIS (A-)
So well performed it feels like the original studio recording, this live version lacks any kind of additional creativity live but lacks error as well. While not the easiest rock track to perform, the challenge bar is set high and the high jump was a success. It’s exactly what you’d expect knowing the original-better for the fan that likes a band that gets it right, worse for the fan that wants something additional live.

10. BUMMER IN THE SUMMER (C)
This doesn’t have the same energy as the other upbeat tracks and though Lee sounds cool, he doesn’t sound hot like he did on “Between Clark and Hilldale” or clever like on “The Red Telephone”. It just doesn’t bring much to the table like the band are wondering if they’ll pull off the closer as they do this one.

11. YOU SET THE SCENE (A-)
Extra cheering can be heard on certain sections but this is otherwise a recording going after what was heard from the studio. The crowd love it, I love it, and as one of the greatest rock tracks in history, its excellence is hard to deny in any form.

12.YOUR MIND AND WE BELONG TOGETHER (B-)
According to Randle’s liner notes, this was the first song played and his guitar blew a speaker during part of the song. It’s also not as on point as the other performances here noticeably suffering in execution in parts especially the opening. While Randle brings power to the guitar coda, it’s not Echols and not Randle’s best either.

13.7 & 7 IS (B-)
Arthur says goodbye and thank you with the closer of the show, the biggest hit they had. There’s more confused jangle here and it’s a nice touch for a song that spirals out of control. The drumming is not powerful though and it could be the recording or just the drums. While the speed is there, there’s not enough bass to them so they sound like speedy tapping. The buildup to the end isn’t well executed either but this song is very tough to pull off.

LOVE-THE COMPLETE FOREVER CHANGES CONCERT (B)As much as Forever Changes is close to the “perfect rock album”, and it’s played that way, Love could have taken the philosophy that even this album changes. But here it doesn’t, and usually Love stick to the recorded versions for any song, so if you have live versions of anything, usually you won’t be missing out on something uniquely special for any one performance. Certain times, Love aren’t firing on all cylinders with maximum intensity and emotion like on the final 2 tracks as well as “The Daily Planet” and “Bummer in the Summer” but they mostly execute this difficult album with great bravery. They hit the right sense of Love on the softer tracks with a big exception in the slightly below average effort of “Alone Again Or”. While the first tracks of the album warm up the band some, by “A House Is Not a Hotel”, they are in gear for real.

As a final verdict, there’s no denying Forever Changes is an excellent album and that most performances of it will be better than your standard live concert, but because Love always stick to the studio versions without much diversion, it may feel like all this ground was covered the same way in the same style before. It doesn’t match the first released live version of the album back over a decade ago which is of excellent quality throughout, had more of a full setlist, and had full enthusiasm from all sides. It felt like an event whether seeing the particular show or buying the DVD, CD or vinyl. This album feels like rehash despite the great songs and mostly great performances. Though it’s only 13 songs, I haven’t found a setlist from that concert that was any longer so I’m assuming this is the full set performed.

VU&Nico is way more suited to late 1966. Regarding list choice, all you need is LOVE indeed.

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Alex, just wanted to thank you from when we were talking about what thread I would do next. Remember we were talking about Byrds or Spirit or someone like that, so I kept thinking in my head which artist and then I couldn't settle so I did a Monterey Pop thread finally and that anniversary is today, 50 years ago. Check it out if you have some time. I would love to see all the Love fan opinions about this festival (that Love should have been part of).

Alex, just wanted to thank you from when we were talking about what thread I would do next. Remember we were talking about Byrds or Spirit or someone like that, so I kept thinking in my head which artist and then I couldn't settle so I did a Monterey Pop thread finally and that anniversary is today, 50 years ago. Check it out if you have some time. I would love to see all the Love fan opinions about this festival (that Love should have been part of).

William, have to congratulate you on your lengthy LOVE thread most informative.

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You're always too kind to me Alex. Thank you again! You were with me the whole way through; missed you on the new thread so I thought I'd reach out. Love coming back here and seeing all the friendly names. When I replay Monterey Pop this weekend, I'm rewriting history and giving Love a 30 minute set. Yeah I'm still being too hardcore!

You're always too kind to me Alex. Thank you again! You were with me the whole way through; missed you on the new thread so I thought I'd reach out. Love coming back here and seeing all the friendly names. When I replay Monterey Pop this weekend, I'm rewriting history and giving Love a 30 minute set. Yeah I'm still being too hardcore!

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Having a bit of a love fest here, te he.
Ironically i don't have much of Monterey Pop, DVD or music ( dunno why). Seen the movie early 1970s. Have the book Hendrix on the cover.But, much prefer it to Woodstock.

Awhile back I got a first pressing stereo for $25 (or I assume -1 matricies on both sides) really great album, I even enjoy the b-side. I need a copy of Forever Changes but it doesn't look to be in print currently unless I'm overlooking something.

I haven't weighed in in this thread because I only have Forever Changes and I haven't heard much else, My Little Red Book certainly and probably a couple of others, and I didn't want to keep checking in until Forever Changes came up (which it probably has by now in a thread started over a year ago).

Anyway, Forever Changes was probably the first LP I ever bought off a review (in Hit Parader). I didn't really like it, I didn't think Andmoreagain was quite as gorgeous as they said it was, I thought the opening line of Live and Let Live was a bit on the repulsive side and with the possible exception of You Set the Scene, I wasn't going to listen to it much.

Fast forward to 1977 or 1978, when I heard a song called Alone Again Or on the radio, by UFO. I liked it, so I bought Lights Out (and discovered the similarly wonderful Try Me). I noticed that Alone Again Or was the only track not written by a band member. One day in 1980 I was idly thumbing through Lillian Roxon's Rock Encyclopedia and I came to the page on Love, and I happened to notice Alone Again Or as one of the tracks on Forever Changes, so after a dozen years I dug out the LP and gave it a listen. Then another, and another ... and the rest is history. It's been a favourite since then, and it's my "summer of 1980" LP!

You Set the Scene is still my favourite, followed by ... Between Clark and Hilldale, and I could probably live without Bummer in the Summer but I generally just play the whole thing in its entirety.

I haven't weighed in in this thread because I only have Forever Changes and I haven't heard much else, My Little Red Book certainly and probably a couple of others, and I didn't want to keep checking in until Forever Changes came up (which it probably has by now in a thread started over a year ago).

Anyway, Forever Changes was probably the first LP I ever bought off a review (in Hit Parader). I didn't really like it, I didn't think Andmoreagain was quite as gorgeous as they said it was, I thought the opening line of Live and Let Live was a bit on the repulsive side and with the possible exception of You Set the Scene, I wasn't going to listen to it much.

Fast forward to 1977 or 1978, when I heard a song called Alone Again Or on the radio, by UFO. I liked it, so I bought Lights Out (and discovered the similarly wonderful Try Me). I noticed that Alone Again Or was the only track not written by a band member. One day in 1980 I was idly thumbing through Lillian Roxon's Rock Encyclopedia and I came to the page on Love, and I happened to notice Alone Again Or as one of the tracks on Forever Changes, so after a dozen years I dug out the LP and gave it a listen. Then another, and another ... and the rest is history. It's been a favourite since then, and it's my "summer of 1980" LP!

You Set the Scene is still my favourite, followed by ... Between Clark and Hilldale, and I could probably live without Bummer in the Summer but I generally just play the whole thing in its entirety.

So there hasn't been too much going on on the Love front since the release of The Complete Forever Changes single live CD and vinyl. I did find an article from this week on that album if people want some more info on it...

So in 2003 Arthur Lee and Baby Lemonade, now called Love or Love Revisited, played a long string of dates in England accompanied by the Stockholm Strings and Horns, from January to August. Their Royal Festival Hall concert was released on Snapper that same year. In July, Arthur Lee and Love performed Forever Changes in front of 65,000 people at the Glastonbury music festival, a first experience for Arthur and bandmates. The set list copied the entire order of the 36-year-old album, sounding like a new release, and that performance is now available on RockBeat as Complete “Forever Changes” Live. These performances would have been seriously lacking without the strings and mariachi brass accompaniment, an element that Arthur wanted when he composed the music in the 60s, not an add-on by the producers. They ended their set as the sun was setting, with Arthur thanking all 65,000 for attending and then launched into “7 & 7 Is,” a fitting song to close their performance. This live recording is a perfect companion to the studio albums and the other live Love recordings.

William, a big thank you for starting this thread. I've been dipping in and out without contributing too much. The thing is other contributors have said what I would have said much more eloquently.
That's it just thought I'd say thanks, Richie.

Alex, just wanted to thank you from when we were talking about what thread I would do next. Remember we were talking about Byrds or Spirit or someone like that, so I kept thinking in my head which artist and then I couldn't settle so I did a Monterey Pop thread finally and that anniversary is today, 50 years ago. Check it out if you have some time. I would love to see all the Love fan opinions about this festival (that Love should have been part of).

As we're gradually reaching the 50th anniversary of Forever Changes, I'll be more active on the thread. There's a celebration of 1960's music acts that will be happening November 4th of you're near L.A. Love Revisited will be there.

When the history of Los Angeles rock 'n' roll is told, bands like The Beach Boys, the Byrds, and the Doors typically are mentioned as founding fathers. As great as those bands are, many other acts have played important roles too. The inaugural LA-A-GO-GO concert shines a spotlight on some of these beloved local music heroes in a remarkable gathering happening November 4, 2017 at the Regent Theater in downtown L.A.

Love Revisited: Maintaining the legacy of the groundbreaking psychedelic rock band led by the late Arthur Lee, Love revisited features Johnny Echols, original Love guitarist (and Lee's childhood friend), along with members of the acclaimed L.A. group Baby Lemonade. Lee picked Baby Lemonade to serve as his backing band in Love starting in 1994, and the group continued in this role until Lee's death in 2006.

As we're gradually reaching the 50th anniversary of Forever Changes, I'll be more active on the thread. There's a celebration of 1960's music acts that will be happening November 4th of you're near L.A. Love Revisited will be there.

When the history of Los Angeles rock 'n' roll is told, bands like The Beach Boys, the Byrds, and the Doors typically are mentioned as founding fathers. As great as those bands are, many other acts have played important roles too. The inaugural LA-A-GO-GO concert shines a spotlight on some of these beloved local music heroes in a remarkable gathering happening November 4, 2017 at the Regent Theater in downtown L.A.

Love Revisited: Maintaining the legacy of the groundbreaking psychedelic rock band led by the late Arthur Lee, Love revisited features Johnny Echols, original Love guitarist (and Lee's childhood friend), along with members of the acclaimed L.A. group Baby Lemonade. Lee picked Baby Lemonade to serve as his backing band in Love starting in 1994, and the group continued in this role until Lee's death in 2006.

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Yes. I've started a thread with that featured. Your input would be most welcome there.

Also of note....I received info from Michael that I will be posting soon on how to get his Pegasus bio on his time with Love--complete with how to pre-order the book from Cadiz Publishing in the UK and receive it ahead of the store release date in November. Cadiz is republishing Michael's book to honor the 50th Anniversary celebration of Forever Changes.

since the anniversary of Forever Changes is coming nearer and nearer I'm again struggling with an exact release date.
I know this has been discussed several times in this thread, but...again...has anyone a valid information?
German wikipedia says 1st of November (which I think is ********), some said it was around 3rd of December?

I'm planning a review for a german radio station and a more or less exact date would be perfect.

since the anniversary of Forever Changes is coming nearer and nearer I'm again struggling with an exact release date.
I know this has been discussed several times in this thread, but...again...has anyone a valid information?
German wikipedia says 1st of November (which I think is ********), some said it was around 3rd of December?

I'm planning a review for a german radio station and a more or less exact date would be perfect.

Well, otherwise...paint me white/yellow/black...

Yours!

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November as indicated by Torben Skott at the best Love forum and home page. But the exact date?
?? Also, Feb of 1968 in the UK.

Mike Dugo: "There's a ton of excellent info. There are also a couple of GREAT pictures I hadn't seen before. Nice job!"

Ira M. Borin: "You deserve it Bruno! I got to page 81 last night without even taking a break. I got 3 hours sleep and went to work! I don't do that! It is like reading a journal. Very cool and well written! I really enjoyed this Book! Never read anything this fast. This is the kind of History they should teach in school! At least it is interesting!"

John Ward: "I have, true to my word, purchased a copy - and I can warmly recommend it. As Bruno says, it is a very detailed chronology that provides a wealth of information about what happened and when. There are some great pictures as well as album sleeves and illustrations of singles. One of my favourite features is the back stories and subsequent careers of just about everyone who was in the band down to 1971. And so long serving and faithful band members like Frank Fayad are deservedly rescued from obscurity. I've often write about how well we Love fans have been served by what has appeared since the year 2000....remastered/expanded editions of all the key albums, various live sets, excellent and highly informative essays from Andrew Sandoval, the Einarson biography, the film LoveStory....and now this treasure house from Bruno Ceriotti. I do urge everone to make the purchase...you really won't regret it."

Georgiana Steele-Waller: "This is really good and informative! It's like reading a journal of the times."

Annie Golightly: "I'm absolutely giddy with joy at the prospect of this book! Just read it and it looks great - you have used some smashing photographs, many of which I have never seen before. How wonderful for you to have worked so closely with such legendary figures. I keep Einarson's book next to my bed and now I'll have your book permanently on my computer - LOVE on earth must be. Thanks, Bruno."

Mark Easter: "Very impressive work, Bruno."

David P. Housden: "As the editor of 'The Castle', I cannot recommend this book highly enough! Bruno sent it to me yesterday & I've printed it out. My first reaction was that there are a number of photographs which I haven't seen before. There is also an extensive amount of original research, including comments from both Johnny Echols & Michael Stuart-Ware. I also like the day by day format. I'm going to get my copy bound & it will be a fine edition to the Love book collection."

Tony Scully: "Just downloaded my copy of Bruno's book - have to say it's just great."

Annette Ferrell: "I am just so glad to have it. I read it, I loved it, couldn't put it down, very interesting, very factual, and accurate as I recall."

Robert Taylor: "Many thanks for the book - it looks and reads fantastic."

Mike Stax: "My Little Red Book is a thorough day-by-day chronicle of Arthur Lee and Love, beginning with Lee’s birth on March 7, 1945, and ending with the dissolution of the Blue Thumb-era band in July 1971. There is also a “Where Are They Now” postscript covering all the principle musicians. The timeline is clearly and accurately laid out, taking in all the documented recording sessions, live appearances and other significant events in the Love story. It’s enhanced by anecdotes from Johnny Echols, Michael Stuart-Ware, Bobby Beausoleil, and Jay Donnellan. There’s some great, previously unheard stories mixed in here. There’s plenty more fascinating tidbits to be dug here, along with all the hard data about which date which songs were recorded and exactly when Love played such-and-such a venue. There are also numerous photos and illustrations, most but not all are good quality. My Little Red Book is a useful resource for any Love fan."

Sujit Sinha: "An important and well researched book for both casual and hard core fans of Love. Filled with previously unseen or rarely published photos and bits of information, the day by day format ensures that your love for Love grows every day. Take a print out and it will make a handy companion to the music of Love and I wish we also see a book by Bruno on post 1971 activities of Love very soon."

William, a big thank you for starting this thread. I've been dipping in and out without contributing too much. The thing is other contributors have said what I would have said much more eloquently.
That's it just thought I'd say thanks, Richie.

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Thanks Richie, you have some great threads going yourself and I know they take up a lot of your time, but cool you got a chance to stop by.

Also of note....I received info from Michael that I will be posting soon on how to get his Pegasus bio on his time with Love--complete with how to pre-order the book from Cadiz Publishing in the UK and receive it ahead of the store release date in November. Cadiz is republishing Michael's book to honor the 50th Anniversary celebration of Forever Changes.

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Thank you, I will stop by there sometime today unless something I don't know about comes up. I read some of it recently.