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Tempting! I'm not likely to play the game any time soon, but the character creator was one of the best parts of SR2. Can't be stuffed with the download at the moment, but if you feel like continuing to post pictures, you've got an audience :)

Just had a play around with it. My thoughts are conflicting. Just to make it clear, I made a female character.

Pros:
- It actually looks quite good. Not perfect, but this is only a demo with no graphics options beyond resolution, so it could look really good in its final form.
- Some of the items are pretty inventive.
- The taunts/compliments, are, largely genius. I noticed the Carlton dance, Wyld Stallyns and a couple of others, so there's bound to be some I don't get that others will.
- Models/animations look to be a bit better than they were in Saints Row 2, although not massively so.
- Most of the physics seem fine. Earrings and hair react to movement and clothing (If you have long hair, and put on a high-collar shirt, the hair will react to it). If your character has large breasts and she chest pounds, her breasts will also react.
- Heeled boots actually make your character taller!
- Female 1 voice set sounds pretty cool. I doubt it's Jennifer Hale, but it sounds a little like her.

Cons:
- So many damned sliders. Good characters aren't hard to make, but there's just so many sliders!
- Characters move when you're adjusting some of the sliders.
- A lot of the clothes are, frankly, what I'd call rubbish especially when coloured. Some look "realistic" in how they fit, others don't.
- No adjustable jiggle physics. I think Volition want to give the female character a bad back. Sorry guys, but ladies with small breasts ain't gonna be jiggling that much.
- Lack of some clothing items. There's many variations of some items, but others are lacking. There's, for example, no sports bras for the female character.
- Body slider = crap. I think it would have worked better as a set of sliders. Hip width, weight, etc. There's also no height selection, which kinda sucks. A lot of the extremes looked a bit silly.
- Sex appeal and age sliders = weird. The bottom line for age should have been about 18, in my opinion. But the sex appeal one was the weirdest. Apparently flat chests mean no sex appeal (I strongly disagree). It also reacted weirdly to body types, giving some really, really odd shaped breasts, especially at the higher end of the scale.
- Stuttery performance. Might have just been me, but it seemed to stutter a little from time to time.

That's all I can think of for now. Overall it's done little to change my excitement for SR3, mostly because I'm concerned about THQ and their approach to DLC, but I did get a few laughs out of it.

Actually although the text you quoted below certainly implies it, the developers reckon it contains only 80% of the full range of clothing.

My own views on the creator are that the character creation is really good. I miss being able to create somebody kind of grotesque (my Saints Row 2 character looking pretty rough and it was so much fun seeing her in the cutscenes - and listening to my friend laughing with his imagination of how the cutscene looked with her in it) but that is a relatively minor quibble.

The clothing does feel a little simplified - ie you cn't choose an undershirt and overshirt, you just choose the clothing item - if this has an undershirt then so be it. Eg some of the long jackets can only be worn with specific shirts underneath - so it does reduce customisation a little. But to me at least this feels relatively minor - I can definitely design a charatcer with which I would enjoy playing, and though said character may not necessarily have the undershirt I would like, I don't see this as a big deal really (though there are tens of pages of angry people on the Saints Row forum complaining about this and thinking of cancelling their pre-orders).

Essentially, so long as I can customise my character in a way which will make the game more pleasing, then I'm fine with it. And yes, the 'body physics' are a little over the top, but I though it was kind of funny.

On a related note UnravThreads - I think the 'sex appeal' slider is a little tongue in cheek; for sure it is not necessarily true that bigger tits = more attractive, and I suspect they were probably a little hesitant to simply call the slider "Tit / Cock-and-Balls Size"

On a related note UnravThreads - I think the 'sex appeal' slider is a little tongue in cheek; for sure it is not necessarily true that bigger tits = more attractive, and I suspect they were probably a little hesitant to simply call the slider "Tit / Cock-and-Balls Size"

Oh, I understand that, I just think it's a bit... You know. I think breasts (And male genitals, I suppose) should have their own slider, and sex appeal should be more of a stat.