The KSEO 4/26/96
Interview with Alex Christopher

Author of Pandora's
Box and Pandora's Box II

Legend: DA (Dave Alan, Host)
AC: Alex Christopher C: Caller

Keywords: Montauk, Phil Schneider, deep
underground Bases, Reptilians, New Denver Airport, Masonic influences,
disappearing children, Queen of England buying up U.S. Property, New World
Order, George Bush, Area 51, Dulce, MKULTRA, CIA, bribes to Denver
officials, Germans and Americans working together in high-tech craft, U.S.
disk possession since 1920's and possession of hundreds in 1952.

DA: My special guest tonight is
Alex Christopher, author of Pandora's Box, an expose of the British
instigation through Washington D.C. over the last 200 years. You thought
you were free? This stuff has been going on forever. The idea was to make
us perceive we were "free and independent", but actually we are
still subject to the British Commonwealth. She has a lot of information
here, and we are going to have to have her back again for more. I talked
to her last night. Just a fascinating individual. She is going to talk
about the Montauk Project and extraterrestrial influences, and more. So,
Alex, where do you start?

AC: Somebody told me one time, start in the
middle and go from there. If you want to, pick a subject and we'll start
from there.

DA: Last night we talked about a few things.
We talked about the Denver airport last night and what is really going on
down there, and we talked a bit about the Montauk project and Al Bielek,
and then we skipped around a bit about some of the things in Pandora's
Box. You mentioned that the Queen of England has been buying up a lot of
property in Colorado under a pseudonym. Why don't we start on the subject
of the British.

AC: All right. The information, primarily,
that is in Pandora's Box covers how the major corporations,
railroad and banking concerns in this country were set up through a trust
that was originally known as the Virginia Company, and there was a
survivor to the massacre of the royalty in France during the French
Revolution, Marie Antoinette and King Louis' son, the Dauphin, who
survived and was smuggled out of France. The Dauphin went to the United
States via England, where he signed a contract with the Virginia Company.
He came here to help the businesses, especially banking, in the United
States. The deal was that everything would remain under English
control, or subservient to it, and that brings us right up to today,
because we are still looking at everything falling under that trust
system going back to the Crown of England. It is mind boggling to think
that everyone in this country has been led to believe that the people in
the United States had won independence from England, when in fact they
never did.

DA: Well, look at President
Bush, wherein two years ago he went to England and was knighted by the
Queen. Where is that coming from? Is it that he was a faithful servant?

AC: You bet. All of them are doing the
bidding, and it goes back to their secret
societies and the establishment of the
New
World Order, which all leads back to the house of Windsor. There has
been in this country for a long time a grooming process whereby people
carry on the bidding of the Crown of England. That is one of the things
the system involving the Rhodes Scholars was set up to achieve. Cecil
Rhodes set it up to groom people for this task, to carry the United States
into the New World Order. It appears, from what I have been able to find
out, that the Crown of England has had this very skillfully planned for
hundreds of years, and it could be possible that they have been privy to
information that not many of us have been for a long long time about the
chaos involving Earth changes that is coming. It is my understanding that
England is not going to make it through the changes, so they set up a
whole new Empire over here. That goes back to some of the things we
discussed before, about lands being bought up in Colorado.

DA: Yes, the area is of a pretty high
altitude, where it will be safe.

AC: Yes. Plus, all the symbolism that is
apparent in the layout of the new Denver airport says that it is a
control center for world control. There is a lot of "secret
society" symbology at the airport. We started researching all of this
to find out what it all means. It's all very scary. A gentlemen by the
name of AL Bielek, who has been involved in some very unusual government
projects in the past, told me that the Denver area is where the
establishment of the Western sector of the New World Order will be in the
United States. Little bits and pieces keep coming to me, confirming
things I have not had confirmed before.

AC: I think his information is fantastic. If
he had had the information that I put in Pandora's Box when I put
that together, it would have have blown his mind. But, as far as I know
from my standpoint, both sets of material go hand in hand, right down the
line.

DA: Some of these things about the background
of the British invasion, taking over the land over here while they let us
think that we are running this country. How they had a bone to pick with
the Czar of Russia years ago, how they have pushed the socialist
revolution....like they say, the sun never sets on British soil. About
some of these things on the airport in Denver. Would you mind discussing
some of those things again? The
United States is still a British Colony

AC: Well, the first thing that got my
attention at the airport was the capstone that I saw in a
photograph, that had a Masonic symbol on it. So, I really wanted to go to
the airport and see that, because I thought it was very unusual.

DA: The capstone?

AC: The capstone, or the dedication stone, for
the Denver airport has a Masonic symbol on it. A
whole group of us went out to the airport to see some friends off and see
this capstone, which also has a time capsule imbedded inside it. It sits
at the south eastern side of the terminal which, by the way, is called The
Great Hall, which is what Masons refer to as their meeting hall. And,
on this thing it mentions the New World Airport Commission. I have
never heard of that, have you?

DA: Never.

AC: It has a Masonic symbol on it, and it also
has very unusual geometric designs. It
depicts an arm rising up out of it that curves at a 45 degree angle. It
also has a thing that looks like a keypad on it. This capstone structure
is made of carved granite and stainless steel, and it is very fancy. This
little keypad area at the end of the arm has an out-of-place unfinished
wooden block sitting on it. The gentleman that was with me on the first
trip out to the airport has since died. They say he committed suicide, but
everything else tells me that this is not possible. No one can double-tie a
catheter behind his own neck and strangle himself. I just don't think that
is possible. But, his name was Phil
Schneider, and he started blowing the
whistle on all this stuff going on in the underground bases that
he had
helped build for years and years. He worked on the underground bases
at Area 51 and Dulce, New Mexico, as well as several other places.
Schneider told me that this keypad-looking area looked like a form of
techno-geometry that is alien-oriented, and that it had something
to do with a "directional system", whatever that meant, that
functioned as a homing beacon to bring ships right into the Great Hall.

In the same general area on this capstone,
there are some most unusual designs on the floor that are all Masonic in
nature, which lead right back to the Black Sun

(Editor Note: See the page in LE#91 sent to us
referring to this order, in terms of its connection with the Montauk
experiments . According to Al Bielek, Schneider's father was a U-boat
captain during the Nazi regime and who was also on the Eldridge in 1943 in
a medical capacity), which goes back to Nazi symbology. See, the
"secret societies" are supposedly into Sun worship. The Nazi's
were into "Black Sun" worship, which connects with the idea of
Saturn. Saturn and Satanism kind of go hand-in-hand.

Then, we have this system of murals at the
airport that are the most grotesque things you've ever seen.

DA: What's on the murals?

AC: I say that that they are about what
they plan to do to us, and the world as a whole, not
what has happened or some fantasy. One of them that is very unusual has
three caskets with dead people in them...

AC: Yes. There are evidently three groups of
people that they would like to see dead. The
first casket has what the artist told me was a Jewish-American child, a
little girl, and she has the "star" on her clothes and a little
Bible and a locket...

DA: Jewish lineage is passed through the
female...

AC: Yes. Well, all these caskets depict women
who are dead.

Then, in the center casket there is depicted a
Native American woman,
and the last casket has a black woman in it.

Now, normally I would not have thought too
much about these murals if I had not done a lot of research. Even in the
government documents I have run across gene-splicing discussions on how
they would like to splice out specific races, and also whoever
these people are do not like the Jewish people. This is just one of the
murals, and these murals are huge.

This same mural depicts the destruction of a
city and the forest, and there is a little girl holding a Mayan
tablet that speaks of the destruction of civilization. There is a
mural that depicts this "thing" standing over a city that looks
like a green "Darth Vader", with a sword, that has
destroyed the city. This character is huge, and there is a road depicted
with women walking holding dead babies. This same mural extends over to
another mural which depicts all of the children of the world taking the
weapons from each country on earth and giving them to a central figure
which is a German boy who has this iron fist and anvil in his hand that is
totally out of proportion to the child's body, beating the swords into
plowshares.

I thought, well, this is very odd depicting a
German child doing this. What all this symbology on the airport murals
seems to convey is that not only do we have a secret society behind this,
but that it is a German secret society behind this, working in the
vicinity of this New World Control Center.

DA: It is interesting when you consider
Operation
Paperclip wherein all these Nazi's were brought to the United
States to be groomed, financed, and basically brought back into power.

AC: Well, I know they're here, because I have
seen them alongside the Americans in the more sensitive areas of the
airport. But, these paintings are most disturbing and very unusual. When
I first tried to contact the artist and talk to him about these murals, he
told me that he was given guidelines on what to paint and put in the
murals. When I showed up in his studio, I asked to see the guidelines for
the last two murals he was working on, he suddenly went "brain
dead" and said "of course, there are no guidelines." It
took myself and two other people over eight months to figure out all the
symbology that is embodied in these murals. It turned out that some of
these are "trigger" pictures, containing symbology designed to
trigger altered personalities of people that have been groomed in MKULTRA
type programs for specific tasks that they have been trained to do in
terms of something connected with Satanic rituals and mind
control. I had
one woman that called my out of the blue one night, and she was really
disturbed about some information. She told me many different things that
later turned out to be known MKULTRA triggers. Also, almost every aspect
of these murals contains symbols relating back to secret societies. When
you get the overall view of what they are talking about in these things,
it is very very scary. It goes back to the Biodiversity Treaty, getting
rid of specific races of people, taking over the world and mind control.

There is one picture in which every plant
turns out to be mind-altering or poisonous, and
all the animals are Masonic symbols used in literature in every country in
the world.

It took a very long time to track all this
stuff down and figure out what they're trying to say. The
one way they tell stories is in pictures. It's right there in our face
when you go into the airport. Most people look at them and say, "boy,
those are crazy-looking pictures, what are they doing in this
airport?"

DA: Now, you mentioned that underneath this
airport it goes down many levels.

AC: Yes.

DA: Does the fact that all these underground
levels are there have something to do with why it took so long for this
airport to open?

AC: Well, the gentleman that I was dealing
with, Phil Schneider, said that during the last year of construction they
were connecting the underground airport system to the deep underground
base. He told me that there was at least an eight-level deep
underground base there, and that there was a 4.5 square mile underground
city and an 88.5 square-mile base underneath the airport. It is very
unusual that they would allot a 50 square-mile area on the surface at
which to locate an airport in the middle of nowhere unless they really
planned to use it for something very unusual later. There is a 10-mile,
4-line highway out to this airport, and there is nothing out there in
between the airport and Denver. Not even a service station, at least in
September 1995. The people in Denver are really upset with the fact that
this airport went in the way it did.

There was this fellow who wrote a book in
which he made the statement that they had a copy of an audio tape on which
a Denver city official was talking with people from the CIA, and that he
was paid 1.5 million dollars to allow the "airport" to be built,
no matter what it took. It appears that there was a lot more interest in
getting the airport built from just officials in the Denver area. They
plan on using this facility for something else other than just landing
planes.

DA: So, this guy got you down there to take a
look at the underground?

AC: Well, he was invited to go along on the
trip. I had a friend that actually got us down into the active area in the
underground. It's very interesting down there. The baggage equipment area
is very unusual. All the old luggage equipment that wouldn't work right
doesn't look much different than the stuff that is working today.

DA: You were telling me that there are huge
concrete corridors with sprinklers all along the ceiling. What are these
sprinkler heads doing in a concrete bunker, pray tell?

AC: Well, this is the same question we asked.
These shafts are huge and run along adjacent to the tramline on both
sides. So, there are two of these huge shafts large enough to fit a
two-lane highway in there. There are every few openings into and out of
the tram shaft, but at the end of them, going out into this 50 square
miles of acreage is a huge steel door that would facilitate the entrance
of a great big truck. It could be used for almost anything, but what is so
unusual about it is that about every five or six feet on the ceiling,
across almost the full width of the area, there is a pipe with three or
four sprinkler heads. This goes on for the full length of the thing, which
must be close to a mile. There are two of these shafts, and I got
picture in the mail the other day which was very unusual that was taken by
someone on board the tram in the shaft. The picture appeared to actually
show ghost-like figures on it. It was a mother and a baby wrapped in a
blanket. When you are down in that concrete shaft, both times I got
nauseated. There are some very unusual vibrations down there. Now, the
tunnel shaft that the tram comes in on could connect up with an
underground tunnel coming in from five buildings that were built and
buried. There was already a 40 foot diameter tunnel there when
construction started. Those five buildings they built 3 1/2 years ago, and
suddenly they said ,"oops, these are in the wrong place" and
buried them, along with a very high-tech runway that is buried under about
four inches of dirt. It seems insane that they would build a very
technical building complex with interlocking tunnels and a tunnel going
back to the tram tunnel at the concourse, and then state that they built
it in the "wrong place" and cover it up with dirt. I don't
believe that people are that stupid.

DA: No. Projects like that are strategically
planned, and they just don't go and do that.

AC: Some of these five buildings are 150 feet
tall. There is one 78 feet tall, and one that is 126 feet tall. They are
all in that range. From this complex there is a shaft that runs to
concourse "C". When they started this project, as I said, there
was also a huge 40 foot diameter shaft brought in there from somewhere that
was off-limits to the work crews. It was there when the project was
started. And, everybody that worked on these projects....there were
five different contractors, and the people on each contracted crew did not
interact with the other ones. When the project was done, everyone was
fired and sent away.

DA: You would think that during this massive
construction they would not be able to keep this stuff secret.

AC: I think a lot of the people saw things
that disturbed them so much that they would not talk about it. I know
several people who worked on the project that managed to find their way
down into the depths, probably close to the deep underground base, and saw
things that scared them so badly they won't talk about it. I interviewed a
few of the former employees on these construction crews that worked out
there on these buildings that ended up buried, and they are afraid to
talk. They say that everybody is real nervous about it, and they decided
to tell some of the secrets that they knew, but they don't want anybody to
know who they are. So, I can tell you that it is a very unusual and spooky
type of place, and if you are a sensitive person you get nauseated as soon
as you enter the perimeter of the airport. Especially when you go down
underground. You become very nauseated and nervous. There is also so much
electromagnetic flux in the area that if you get out on the open ground
around the airport, you will "buzz".

DA: Where is this flux field coming from? What
do you think the purpose of this is?

AC: I think that its coming from some kind of
underground electrical system, because where we were there were no power
lines, and the whole place was just buzzing with this free energy floating
around. Very unusual. In addition, there are areas in the underground
that have chain-link fences with the barbed wire tops pointed inward,
like they were there to keep people in, not keep people out. All these
areas are there, acres of it, and none of it is in active use. There are
many terraced areas that go down. One area in particular is forbidden to
go into unless you are wearing a biological protective suit. They
say there is some kind of "unidentified biological fungus" in
that area that attacks people's lungs.

DA: Hmmm. Some kind of way to hide something
that is in this area?

AC: Well, we think that area is one that leads
to deeper levels underground at the airport. But, it is surrounded by a
chain-link fence and you can't get in there. We think this is the area
that one of the electricians kind of stumbled into that went down about
six levels below the fourth level, and ran into some really weird stuff.
He won't talk about any of it now.

DA: Real weird stuff.

AC: Also, at the airport there are what look
like miniature nuclear reactor cooling towers, and I don't understand why
they are there. When people asked, the reply is that they are part of the
ventilation and exhaust system. Ventilation and exhaust from where?

DA: What do you think its for?

AC: I think it is all hooked up to the deep
underground.

DA: They say that this place looks like some
underground "holding area"...somewhat like a cattle lot....a
place that could hold thousands of people. The gates, fences....

AC: The luggage transport vehicles move on a
full-sized double-lane highway, and along this highway are chain-linked
areas that could be used for holding areas. I don't understand why they
built this the way they did, unless they planned to use it for something
like that in the future.

DA: So what could all this be for?

AC: If Phil is right, and all this hooks up to
the deep underground base that he was offered the plans to build back in
1979, and that what this other man told me in private that there is a lot
of human slave labor in these deep underground bases being used by these aliens,
and that a lot of this slave labor is children. He said that when the
children reach the point that they are unable to work any more, they are
slaughtered on the spot and consumed.

DA: Consumed by who?

AC: Aliens. Again, this is not from me, but
from a man that gave his life to get this information out. He worked down
there for close to 20 years, and he knew everything that was going on.

DA: Hmmm. Who do these aliens eat?

AC: They specifically like young human
children, that haven't been contaminated like adults. Well, there is a
gentleman out giving a lot of information from a source he gets it from,
and he says that there is an incredible number of children snatched in
this country.

DA: Over 200,000 each year.

AC: And that these children are the main
entree for dinner.

DA: How many Draconians are down there?

AC: I have heard the figure of 150,000 just in
the New York area.

DA: Underneath New York?

AC: Yes. In some kind of underground base
there.

DA: Interesting. Now, you've seen pictures of
these things?

AC: I have seen them face to face.

DA: You have?

AC: Yes. From some information that has been
put out by a group or team that also works in these underground bases that
is trying to get information out to people that love this country, there
is a war that is going on under our feet, and above our heads, that the
public doesn't know anything about, and its between these alien forces and
the humans that are trying to fight them.

DA: What other types have you seen?

AC: The ones that I have seen are the big-eyed
Greys and the Reptilians.

DA: What do these Reptilians look like?

AC: There are three different types.

DA: Can you tell us how you happened to come
into contact with them?

AC: When I lived in Florida in Panama City, at
that particular time the Gulf Breeze sightings were going on, and the area
was virtually a hotbed for strange events. I had neighbors that were into
watching UFOs and getting information about them. One night about 2:30 am,
my neighbor called me and was absolutely frantic, and wanted me to come
over there. I ran over there and went in the front door, and she and her
boyfriend, who is a commercial airline pilot, were in the living room
scared out of their wits. I looked over at her, and her eyeballs are
rolling back in her head and she was passing out and sliding down the
wall. Her boyfriend was trying to tell me what was going on, and I was
feeling this incredible energy that felt like it was trying to penetrate
my head. So, I grabbed both of them and pulled them both outside, where we
stood for a while and talked...

AC: Oh, no. There was radiation in the room.
The next day all of her plants were dead. So, there was a massive amount
of energy focused on that room. Anyway, after about an hour had passed, we
had discussed what went on and decided to go back into the house. They had
both been in bed and were pulled out of their bed during the night. All
they remember is a flash of light in their faces and the next thing they
know they're both scared to death. But, when we went back into the house,
I noticed that the man had a small palm-print on his side with fingers
that must have been 10 inches long, with claw marks on the end that were
burned into his side. The next day, that area was so swollen that he could
not touch it. I have video pictures of these things on his side. The
prints were there from someone bending down from behind him and pulling
him out of bed. They had been making love, and somebody lifted him off of
her and left these burns there.

Anyway, they were both totally flipped out. I
finally got them calmed down enough to let me go home. I went home and
went to bed. The next thing I know, I woke up and there is this
"thing" standing over my bed. He had wrap-around yellow eyes
with snake pupils, and pointed ears and a grin that wrapped around his
head. He had a silvery suit on, and this scared the living daylights out
of me. I threw the covers over my head and started screaming....I mean,
here is this thing with a Cheshire-cat grin and these funky glowing
eyes...this is too much. I have seen that kind of being on more than one
occasion.

DA: What else can you say about it?

AC: Well, he had a hooked nose and he was very
human looking, other than the eyes, and had kind of grayish skin. Later on
in 1991, I was working in a building in a large city, and I had taken a
break about 6:00, and the next thing I knew it was 10:30 at night, and I
thought I had taken a short break. I started remembering that I was taken
aboard a ship, through four floors of an office building, and through a
roof. There on the ship is were I encountered Germans and American's
working together, and also the Grey aliens, and then we were taken to
some other kind of facility and there I saw the reptilians again ... the
one's I call the "baby Godzilla's", that have the short teeth
and yellow slanted eyes, and who look like a veloci-raptor, kind of.

DA: So, why would these people pick on you?

AC: Well, I found one common denominator in
the abduction, and it keeps on being repeated over and over again. I deal
with lots of people who have been abducted, and the one common denominator
seems to be the blood line,
and its the blood line that goes back to ancient Indian or Native
American blood lines.

DA: Are these people looking for genetic
material?

AC: Well, I don't know if it is a very ancient
blood line that they want to try and stop, or what the reasoning
is. I know that I was asked some questions, like how I was capable of
doing some of the psychic things I was doing at the time. But, it is very
unusual to find anybody that remotely thinks they have been taken that
doesn't have the Indian blood line, somewhere.

DA: Now, after that experience, what happened
after that? What were some of the other times you saw some of these
beings?

AC: Well, at that facility I saw the
almond-eyed Greys, but the thing that sticks in my mind are the beings
that look like reptiles, or the veloci-raptors. They are the cruelest
beings you could ever imagine, and they even smell hideous. There were a
couple of very unusual areas down there where I was taken which looked
like cold storage lockers, where these things were in hibernation tubes,
and that it about all I remember, other than seeing some black helicopters
and little round-wing disk type aircraft. At that point, the memory seems
to be cut off and I can't tap through to anything else. They're there,
folks.

DA: Maybe I'll open up some phone lines, and
maybe we'll talk about Al Bielek and some things you discussed with him.
Are you open to that?

AC: Sure.

Caller (C): On those ships where the Germans
and Americans were, did they have any kind of an insignia on their
uniforms?

AC: Yes, they did. I have been told that the
organization is called "The Black League" by people that might
know. A blue triangle with a red-eyed black dragon, with a circle around
it. It was very unusual. There's another woman that has written a book
about an encounter she had in Fort Walden. I met her some years back, and
we were taking about things we've seen. She also talked about this strange
insignia. She and I both sat down a drew what we saw, and they were
virtually carbon copies of each other. (Editor Note: See the symbol on the
shirt sleeve of the Israeli soldier comforting the Rabin's daughter at his
funeral in Israel, shown in Newsweek 11/20/95. Winged serpent similar to
that seen by Herbert Schirmer and reprinted in Crux #4 in 1989. The
comparison will be shown in Leading Edge #92).

In the book Cosmic Conflict, the author
talks about the ancient city that was uncovered by the Germans before
World War II, and tells about their effort to revive some frozen humans
they found in this underground city, and that the true humans couldn't be
revived, but the ones that could be revived were in fact reptilians in
disguise, and they reptilians have the capability to do shape-shifting
and create a holographic image so when you look at them you see
a human, but under that there is a human there. It's like a "deja
vu" of the movie They Live. Cathy O'Brien, who wrote Trance-Formation
in America, revealed that George Bush projected a hologram that he was
a reptilian .... real crazy stuff, but if this technology that they
possess is there, why couldn't a race do something like that ... these
people that are working with our government?

C: I believe that, but I do believe that these
are demons that manifest themselves as alien beings, and that this has
been going on for a long time...

DA: The reptilians look like that anyway. All
the scriptures around the planet talk about serpent beings. What do you
think, Alex?

AC: Well, I think that's pretty much what the
bottom line is. Also, they talk about the rapture...

DA: It could be like an alien
"thanksgiving".

AC: These people that have done all this
research and are part of the underground government are telling that the
humans on this planet have been at war with these reptilian aliens for
thousands of years. At one point, things got so hot on the planet, like it
is now, aliens took on this holographic image and infiltrated the human
race in order to take it over and undermine it, just like this New World
Order is doing right now. They're saying that the same thing happened to
civilization on Earth before, and that the humans before actually had the
capability for interplanetary travel, and that it was so bad here with the
reptilians that they had to leave.

DA: I think that this has been going on for
hundreds of thousands of years.

AC: Yes. What they are also saying is that
these beings that are human-looking that are visiting our planet, at this
time, trying to inform people what is going on, and guide them, are
actually our ancestors that escaped the Earth before when it was
under reptilian domination.

DA: What is your take on these crop circles?

AC: Oh, the crop circles that are the real
ones are a type of geometric language containing some kind of information.
There was one that was a Mandelbrot fractal. How do you fake that? They
say that there are a lot of crop circles going on in the United States,
and that the government shuts the information off about their occurrence.

DA: Canada and Australia as well.

C: It seems that we are having an increase in
these encounters and sightings.

AC: Things are escalating at an incredible
rate. I think a lot of these movies in the media are trying to get us
softened up for what they plan to unleash on us.

C: So, in just a matter of years, they plan to
bring it out and bring people to that airport?

AC: I went to South Florida a couple of weeks
ago and interviewed a man who had done research for 30 years, and oddly
enough, he tapped into some of the same information I had, in that our
government has had round-winged, saucer-type technology, high mach speed
aircraft since the 1920's, and that in 1952 they had over 500 of these
aircraft hidden in secret bases. Now, if they had that in 1952,
considering that military technology grows by 44 years for every year that
goes by, what do you imagine they have now, 44 years later, after
technology has advanced the equivalent of 1,936 years?

C: About two or three months ago, I went to do
a business transaction with a fellow I have known for about two or three
years, and one of his relatives had just died -- we were pretty close, and
we got into a deep conversation about stuff, and he told me he worked in
an underground military base in Colorado. I asked him what he did there,
and he said that if he did tell me he'd have to kill me. I told him I
didn't want to know. I was really shocked, and didn't know what to think
of it, and then I heard this program. I want to know what your guest
thinks about the Iron Mountain report the government did in the 1960's,
and if that ties into the Nazis and the American's working together. Also,
this would also explain George Washington's vision where this country was
invaded from the East by a foreign power, and then when all hope seemed
lost, the angels of God would come down and the
nation would be saved. Anyway, I never could understand why angels of God
would come down and fight with men to save a puny little country that has
been around for only 200 years, but in this scenario, there seems to be
some explanation here.

AC: Yes, the Iron Mountain
report. The guy
that claims to be the author of it now claims that it was nothing more
than a joke, but for a joke, it seems to be following the time line to the
hilt, so I think it was something that made its way out and they are
trying to cover that up. Everything that was in that report is happening
in great detail right now.

C: Do these reptilians bleed if they get shot?

DA: Has anybody ever killed one?

AC: Phil Schneider did. He killed several of
them. When he was involved cutting some tunnels at Dulce, he was lowered
down a shaft and ended up in a nest of these things. He and some of his
team were in there, and some of the Delta Force came in. They had a
shootout with these aliens, and he killed a couple of them before they got
a round off and shot him with some sort of laser weapon. He used to pull
his shirt up and show me where they darned near blew a hole in his chest
with whatever kind of laser weapon they were using.

DA: So they can be killed, then?

AC: Yes, if you have the drop on them. They
die just like everyone else. They consist of mass just like we do.

C: It is interesting that high officials in
the Clinton administration, like Cisneros,
were deeply involved with the construction of this airport. Also, Pat
Shroeder. All of a sudden, she's leaving office. It's like a lot of people
who have been involved with this airport are leaving town. Also, there is
a fellow by the name of Rodney Stitch, who writes about the total
corruption in the Denver area. Does this tie in with what you were talking
about?

AC: Well, he is the one that wrote the book
Defrauding
America. He said that they had a tape of a CIA agent paying off the
mayor of Denver to get the airport built. There is just so much
corruption. They are selling the good American people out. We have some of
our own people selling the rest of population out for a few pieces of
gold.

DA: What about Al Bielek and how what he is
saying may relate to this?

AC: I met Al about a year ago.

DA: Who is Al Bielek?

AC: He claims to be one of the ones who jumped
overboard off the Eldridge when it went into hyperspace during the
Philadelphia Experiment. He actually traveled forward in time, and asked
the people that he encountered there what happened in his future. At that
time, he was given the information about the New World Order and that
Denver was the location for the NWO Western Sector, and that Atlanta was
supposed to be the control center for the Eastern Sector. Can it be that
the fact that the Olympics is supposed to be in Atlanta is part of a
scenario? All the highways in Atlanta have high-security monitoring
cameras just like those seen in some of the underground areas at the
Denver airport. These monitors are all over the interstate highway and on
many of the streets in Atlanta. Last week, I was talking to a fellow who
was actually working on the Olympic project, in terms of the main stadium,
and he said that they're gearing up for the possibility of terrorist acts.
Do they know something we don't know?

DA: Maybe they want to go ahead and perpetrate
something again. One thing after another. It's all part of their scenario.
Let's take a call.

C: Yes, I would like to thank you and your
guest for coming forward with this information. And, as unbelievable as it
is for the audience, I personally have had first-hand experience with some
of this stuff. Not so much with the reptilians, but when you talk about
this technology base that the government is working with, my own
encounters with this technology were basically terrifying, in that I
didn't know what was going on. I got indoctrinated into some type of mind
control program that was perpetrated on me. I was in the wrong place at
the wrong time. It's amazing to me that this stuff is going on, and I know
that it is frustrating to get people to wake up to this. I am a little
nervous here. It runs a little deeper than just on a physical level of
threat. I think a lot of this stuff is not just about suppressing our
minds and will to resist the government. It's about getting our minds to
the point to where we're so "droned down" that we have no chance
of reconnecting with the source. I think this whole thing has to do with
us on a soul level.

AC: That's right. That's what it's all about.
It's the last great adventure to control the space between our ears and to
eventually take over our souls. I also think that a lot of the people who
have sold us out and are involved in this have no idea what the BIG
picture is, because it is all so compartmentalized. This is a very demonic
scenario that is going on here.

C: That is why I will spend the rest of my
days trying to bring this to people's attention. My take on it is that if
you don't make the cut when all of this comes to a climax, and they do
achieve that ultimate control, your chances of reconnecting are delayed
indefinitely.

AC: Well, you know, we have some beings that
are waiting for people to ask, en masse, for help, and they are there, and
they will help, but we have to ask for help, because they honor free will.

C: My previous experience was pretty
nightmarish, but I did get through this, and my perspective on God is a
gift.

DA: Alex, how do we get a hold of your book,
Pandora's
Box?

AC: You can write to Pandora's Box,
2663 Valleydale Road, Suite 126, Birmingham, Alabama 35224. Pandora's
Box Volume One is $50 ($80 Overseas), and Pandora's Box Volume Two
is $35 ($65 Overseas). The book called The Cosmic Conflict is $40
($75 Overseas). These are big books, with lots of information.

DA: Well, Alex, thank you for being here, and
we'll have you back here again.