Boring ol' LiteCoin, yeah. I have a soft spot for LTC; it was my first real profit maker. Selling most of my LTC made it possible to go all in on Ethereum on its way up the ladder. ETH booming to $400 made it possible to build a decent Bitcoin core. I sold most of my ETH, along with most of my alts, to consolidate around BTC and NEO. I like having small stacks of ETH and LTC, but they're grist for the Bitcoin mill if the ratios are right.

I agree Doge, the article raises many questions. Bitcoin long-bulls don't care, it is a great store of wealth, and for those who use it for peer-transactions, it is much cheaper than Western Union..

Bitcoin could become obsolete as General Motors or Ford, but that is going to be a long time. First-mover status means a lot, and the alt-coins aren't trustworthy to the general public, most of whom don't even know about Bitcoin, much less Alts and ICOs.

Bitcoin down $500 today? Long-bulls just laugh, if they notice at all. Goldman Sachs is selling off. It is like a $75 move in Gold.

Looks like BCH is rallying based on the S2X fork not going through. My personal preference would be to prefer LTC or even DASH over BCH, but apparently it has some legs for now. It will be interesting to see how far this goes. Anyone still holding their BCH from that first fork is looking smart right now.

SilverDoge wrote:Looks like BCH is rallying based on the S2X fork not going through. My personal preference would be to prefer LTC or even DASH over BCH, but apparently it has some legs for now. It will be interesting to see how far this goes. Anyone still holding their BCH from that first fork is looking smart right now.

This is the kind of total bull$hit that really pisses me off. Bitcoin Cash is going to confuse the hell out of a bunch of new people to crypto. Some new person goes to buy bitcoin, logs on to bitcoin.com (owned by Roger Ver, CEO of bitcoin.com and Bitcoin Cash lead), downloads a "Bitcoin Wallet" from that website, and after purchasing their first bitcoin from Coinbase (or wherever) goes to transfer it to their new wallet - and it will fail or they will potentially lose money. Because the Bitcoin.com wallet creates a default Bitcoin Cash (Bcash) wallet, aka BCH. This is fraud.

If that was your first experience with bitcoin, you would leave and never return. This Azzhole is trying to take over the bitcoin brand simply because he owns a website, and disagrees with Core. He is going to screw people over, and he doesn't care, so long as he can pretend he has the bitcoin brand, and can make a truckload of money (and be famous).

PSA: DO NOT go to bitcoin.com to download anything. Bitcoin.org is the official website.

Roger Ver is destroying the goodwill of so many people who are attempting to educate new people into bitcoin every day, and this one guy can undo so much just because he has the rights to a website. Shame.

SilverDoge wrote:This is the kind of total bull$hit that really pisses me off. Bitcoin Cash is going to confuse the hell out of a bunch of new people to crypto. Some new person goes to buy bitcoin, logs on to bitcoin.com (owned by Roger Ver, CEO of bitcoin.com and Bitcoin Cash lead), downloads a "Bitcoin Wallet" from that website, and after purchasing their first bitcoin from Coinbase (or wherever) goes to transfer it to their new wallet - and it will fail or they will potentially lose money. Because the Bitcoin.com wallet creates a default Bitcoin Cash (Bcash) wallet, aka BCH. This is fraud.

If that was your first experience with bitcoin, you would leave and never return. This Azzhole is trying to take over the bitcoin brand simply because he owns a website, and disagrees with Core. He is going to screw people over, and he doesn't care, so long as he can pretend he has the bitcoin brand, and can make a truckload of money (and be famous).

PSA: DO NOT go to bitcoin.com to download anything. Bitcoin.org is the official website.

Roger Ver is destroying the goodwill of so many people who are attempting to educate new people into bitcoin every day, and this one guy can undo so much just because he has the rights to a website. Shame.

I downloaded the wallet just based on this claim and it seems pretty clear to me. BTC is BTC, BCH is BCH and a different color/logo. deadalnix is the lead for Bitcoin Cash, not Ver, though he's the lead evangelist. Even Anton Antonopolous thinks they can coexist. The whole "bcash" attack needs to stop. There needs to be something to fill the gap bitcoin as a transactional currency and nothing exists with the infrastructure in place like bitcoin/bitcoin cash.

silverpv wrote:I downloaded the wallet just based on this claim and it seems pretty clear to me. BTC is BTC, BCH is BCH and a different color/logo. deadalnix is the lead for Bitcoin Cash, not Ver, though he's the lead evangelist. Even Anton Antonopolous thinks they can coexist. The whole "bcash" attack needs to stop. There needs to be something to fill the gap bitcoin as a transactional currency and nothing exists with the infrastructure in place like bitcoin/bitcoin cash.

They can and will coexist, just like the hundreds of other alts. The difference is the other alts owned their "alt" status and aren't trying to steal the bitcoin brand. Ver owns bitcoin.com and therefore is able to hoodwink noobs. It isn't like we have a lack of cryptos that want to be transactional currencies: LTC, PIVX, Dash, QRL, HYP, XMR, ZCash, Doge, XVG, and on and on. Ver is rich, he can do what he wants. It doesn't mean I have to like it or use his product. He can keep his Bcash, I will take QRL & BTC.

silverpv wrote:I downloaded the wallet just based on this claim and it seems pretty clear to me. BTC is BTC, BCH is BCH and a different color/logo. deadalnix is the lead for Bitcoin Cash, not Ver, though he's the lead evangelist. Even Anton Antonopolous thinks they can coexist. The whole "bcash" attack needs to stop. There needs to be something to fill the gap bitcoin as a transactional currency and nothing exists with the infrastructure in place like bitcoin/bitcoin cash.

They can and will coexist, just like the hundreds of other alts. The difference is the other alts owned their "alt" status and aren't trying to steal the bitcoin brand. Ver owns bitcoin.com and therefore is able to hoodwink noobs. It isn't like we have a lack of cryptos that want to be transactional currencies: LTC, PIVX, Dash, QRL, HYP, XMR, ZCash, Doge, XVG, and on and on. Ver is rich, he can do what he wants. It doesn't mean I have to like it or use his product. He can keep his Bcash, I will take QRL & BTC.

Yes, but isn't that what capitalists do? lol Bitcoin is decentralized and therefor does not own the brand, unless its a centralized brand. There are plenty others but none that can match the brand equity or previous utility of bitcoin other than bitcoin cash right now because of the airdrop more people have it. The only other one I'd put on a similar level is LTC and maybe DASH but i'm not really sure why DASH is pumping. I think it needs to be there and most people will still use btc or bch combo.