With the latest information revealing that FBI Agent Peter Strzok and DOJ/FBI Attorney Lisa Page were specifically leaking to their media sources to shape the underlying story of their political efforts, everything presented by the recipients of those leaks should now be questioned.

Page and Strzok were the “sources” for stories written by Devlin Barrett of the Washington Post.

As such, obviously the network of Page and Strzok’s professional colleagues, would also be considered part of a grouping of people who would benefit from specific leaks intended to shape the stories.

One of those initial stories was a December 2nd, 2017, WaPo outline describing Page and Strzok against the backdrop of the DOJ Inspector General Horowitz investigation.

The Washington Post presented the story of Lisa Page and Peter Strzok having an affair to the world.

That presentation became the underlying assumption for all reporting that followed (despite the lack of supporting evidence). That WaPo story (narrative), “The affair” was written by Devlin Barrett, who we now know was in direct contact with Page and Strzok.

As an example: were Peter Strzok and Lisa Page actually having an affair? Or, was the “affair” simply an effective narrative, entirely constructed to describe the scope of their communication and cover-up a larger and far more looming truth, a bigger conspiracy?

Amid a vastly growing release of text messages, there’s nothing to indicate a relationship between Lisa Page and Peter Strzok based on anything except collaboration to politicize their jobs to the benefit of Hillary Clinton and against all her political opposition.

For several years CTH has been pointing out how the larger U.S. intelligence community has a pattern of leaking specific information to specific outlets.

Information from Justice Department leaks and the Intelligence Community (writ large), generally appear in the Washington Post, New York Times, NBC, and -depending on content- the Wall Street Journal. Information from State Department leaks generally flow to CNN, CBS and ABC.

Each of the initiating media reports of the leaks are then cited by their peer group: ‘media reports on media reports’. It is a pattern that has become transparently visible for those who follow politics and media.

Now that you know Strzok and Page were Barrett’s sources, re-read this story about what was going on inside the FBI in October 2016. – SEE HERE – “FBI In Internal Fued Over Hillary Clinton Probe”:

October 30th, 2016 – The surprise disclosure that agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation are taking a new look at Hillary Clinton’s email use lays bare, just days before the election, tensions inside the bureau and the Justice Department over how to investigate the Democratic presidential nominee. (read more)

Additionally, and perhaps more disturbingly, against the backdrop of officials within the FBI and DOJ having an agenda to protect their internal allies, it is also important to note that some leak efforts might actually be using the media to protect their team.

As an example, a Justice Department official may know one of their aligned colleagues might be scheduled for questioning by congressional oversight. The insider, perhaps from a different sub-department within the DOJ, would have knowledge of the information provided to congress -and- desire to prepare their colleague by leaking the content of the information they have provided.

Recently, and specifically because of the explosive nature of the larger construct of the conspiracy within the Justice Department targeting of candidate Donald Trump, we noted the possibility of this happening. –SEE HERE– This stemmed from the original January 8th, 2018, Hill report of Page and Strzok as likely ‘leakers‘.

[…] What that individual series of text messages from Lisa Page highlights is how far she was willing to go to shape DOJ/FBI investigative action to the benefit of her favorite political candidate.

Lisa Page and Peter Strzok were not only willing to manipulate their official investigative duty to the benefit of Hillary Clinton, but they were also willing to leak information to the media in an effort to shape the narrative around their investigative duties.

Both Page and Strzok are scheduled to testify to the House Intelligence Committee *VERY* soon. Like, within a matter of days.

Given the revelation(s) within the text messaging today, and the evidence therein that proves the politicization of their offices, it is highly likely *NOW* they will plead the fifth and refuse to answer questions.

Which immediately makes me wonder about the motive behind whomever gave that text messaging information to John Solomon and Sara Carter.

Were those specific text messages, which clearly prove Lisa Page was leaking to the media, INTENTIONALLY given to Solomon and Carter because someone on “The Hill” was trying to warn Page about known evidence against her?

I don’t expect that Sara Carter would reveal her sourcing on this. However, I would WARN HER, *strongly* that there’s a serious possibility she is being used by her SOURCE to dilute damage against the “small group” co-conspirators.

Those who have followed CTH closely will note my historic suspicions toward a strong likelihood that Sean Hannity’s favorite journalists are being handled by DC control agents who know how manipulate media people. (link)

This does not mean that all media are doing the bidding of the corrupt officials knowingly. Some might be relaying information thinking they are just breaking exclusive news, without actually considering they are helping corrupt insiders to get dangerous information to their ideological allies in a scheme to assist them. [Not everyone has the benefit of HAM radios]

However, for the reassessment of all Devlin Barrett’s narrative engineering (reporting), we can be certain he is more than a willing ally to the corrupt group of FBI and DOJ insiders.

How do we know this?

Well, one of the brutally obvious stories was national security journalist Devlin Barrett writing a story specifically using “sources” to explain the context of the Page/Strzok message about untraceable phones:

By Devlin Barrett – Two senior FBI officials who texted each other about President Trump and Hillary Clinton relied on work phones to try to hide their romance from a spouse and made the bureau’s probe of Clinton’s private email server their cover story for being in such close contact, according to people familiar with the matter.

The two officials, senior FBI lawyer Lisa Page and senior counterintelligence agent Peter Strzok, are the subjects of an internal investigation that has roiled the FBI and emboldened its Republican critics who have accused the bureau of political bias. Had Page and Strzok used personal phones instead, people close to case say, it’s unlikely their text messages would have come to the FBI’s attention.

The texts, a trove of which were released by the Justice Department this week, have raised questions about the FBI’s investigation into Clinton’s use of a private email server while she was secretary of state and special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s probe of whether any Trump associates coordinated with Russian officials to interfere with the presidential election. Page and Strzok, who have declined to comment, were involved in both. (read more)

In this example, and thinking about the approach of a willing media journalist helping his FBI and DOJ allies, there’s a really odd dynamic to use the subject of the article as the likely source of information on the subject of the article.

“According to people familiar with the matter”, is likely to be Peter Strzok and Lisa Page themselves.

That’s perhaps the most obvious example of narrative engineering ever. Again, “sources say” now appears to be reporter Devlin Barrett writing an article based on direct information from Lisa Page and Peter Strzok who were the subjects of the story.

Obviously they would have a vested legal interest in shaping/spinning that story in a very specific direction, and it appears Devlin Barrett was more than willing to assist.

Knowing that DOJ/FBI Attorney Lisa Page and FBI Agent Peter Strzok were key sources for Barrett’s stories at the Wall Street Journal and Washington Post all assumptions based on this reporting should be questioned.

Just wait untl the SOTU. No, just wait until Valentine’s Day. No, Presidents Day. Make that July 4. What fireworks! Nah, probably right before the November midterm elections. Wait! This all boils down to 2020. Definitely by 2024.

I don’t post here a lot so I don’t know who is a troll and who isn’t. As a result, I read a post like billrla’s without taint. If brillrla is saying something along the lines of hurry up and wait and nothing ever comes from it, then I sort of agree. This thing is approaching overhype I fear.

If brillrla is a troll trying to undermine the memo and all it implies, I’m just not informed enough to catch his drift. Maybe one of his critics could clue me in or at least tell me what his point is in plain English.

Gotta admit, the ‘planted seed’ (regarding an unculminated affair) certainly has taken root.

Show me any story about Page/Strozk that does not include the word lovers or affair.
OK, I didn’t hear it from Goodlait, but otherwise?
Yikes!
20k texts without endearatives? That bit about her being a great lawyer was as close as I’ve seen to any ‘pillow talk’.

I suppose any couple of colleagues might share 50,000 texts over a five month period, right? Lovers or criminals, I guess they decided to throw their lot in as lovers. The sentencing guidelines are lower

She even made a comment about him spending so much time at work and he should go home to his loving or lovely family, can’t remember the exact wording of the text, but struck me as odd at the time. Now Sundance is filling in the blanks

It’s not like Sundance hasn’t been warning us
Sara Carter and Sean Hannity Are Being Played By James Comey…Posted on June 13, 2017 by sundance
August 4, 2017 Sundance As we pointed out yesterday, the entire Sara Carter presentation of a letter from current NSA McMaster to former NSA Susan Rice appears to be a propaganda narrative. –DETAILS HERE– Toward that end, Carter appears with Sean Hannity and misleads the audience about McMasters letter to Susan Rice.
Sundance 1/13/18 Sara Carter, plays the role of controlled opposition. Carter shiftily helps Hillary Clinton deal with her “Dossier Problem“. Unfortunately, but not unpredictably, Sara Carter begins deploying deep state …
Sundance 1/18/18 There are voices like Sara Carter and Dan Bongino who are rushing to the motive behind the story and playing directly into the hands of the Swamp Dwellers who use professional obfuscation (the Potomac two-step) to avoid accountability.

Lol. Sara was the one who was used to float the trial balloon that the FBI/DOJ/CLINTON were motivated by patriotism to investigate Trump because they’d been tricked by the Russians into sincerely believing Trump was a traitor, working with Putin. She said thats what her sources were telling her. What a totally laughable assertion but I noted Trish Regan at FOX pushing the same narrative. Q warned of previously trusted sources now being disinfo/misinfo and specifically mentioned SC. She’s probably too naive to realize how she’s being used to con people who were trained to trust her because she always seemed to have good intel in the past. I suspect she was built up to be useful later when lies needed to be believed.

Totally agree. All I read are two chatty cathy’s here. In all the text’s I have seen so far were two hearing friends gabbing my ears off. There are real problems in these texts messages, but not about two lovers..

Always keep in mind, when a source leaks an “exclusive” to one reporter, there is ALWAYS an ulterior motive, even if the leaked information is true.

Every leak has multiple consequences, and it is not clear what the primary motive was. For example: TheHill leak to Soloman and Carter has:

-S&P leaking various things to various reporters. The one that caught my eye was the reference to “throwing him under the bus” regarding the CF article (Clinton Foundation?). ie. they are leaking to get back at superiors who do things re clinton that S&P don’t like. But there are many others, including the actual or likely identities of the reporters being leaked to.

Where are her values and priorities? She probably had a nice secure lifetime job within the bowels of the swamp. But power, ambition, ego, lure of excitement, rabid partisanship and delusions of grandeur pretty much ruin any chance for that family to ever be ‘normal.’

And what on earth kind of family life did she share with her husband and son? I read that he works in a non profit educational organization. There was a kind of sad picture of him and their kid leaving their house under a barrage of reporters. I think it was from the Daily Mail. Is he a ‘fellow traveler’ or just another dupe? Either way, their kid will never know a normal life.

He’s kept, metrosexual. And she’s the alpha pants.
At first I assumed she was a love struck mess and even speculated that she’d commit suicide sooner or later. But I’m thinking she’s a grizzly, not a mama grizzly, just a grizzly and just as dangerous. In fact, Strzok comes across as whiny at times in those texts and she’s bucking him up. His “handler”?

Page’s husband was a failed opera star wannabe, who now works for a multi-international education foundation.

But the entire story is odd. Have either of these people moved out of their respective residences? What were their other actions of ‘togetherness’? Are they setting us up to both get ‘divorced’ from their current spouses, to marry and stay numb about each other?

All odd. All I can say, is that if this were a text project to cover an affair, they did a great job. They never text about ANYTHING personal.

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A friend just told me something interesting: It turns out James Strzok, Peter’s uncle, met Obama in Kenya in 1988. Years later, all of a sudden, an unknown Peter Strzok, became one of the top FBI agents, and Strzok & McCabe are best friends…. @realDonaldTrump #qanon

A friend just told me something interesting: It turns out James Strzok, Peter's uncle, met Obama in Kenya in 1988. Years later, all of a sudden, an unknown Peter Strzok, became one of the top FBI agents, and Strzok & McCabe are best friends…. @realDonaldTrump#qanon

This is disgusting. Agree with everyone who were suspicious of the “affair” story. That came directly from Devlin (Page/Strzok). But does this say anything about IG Horowitz who asked to see more Page/Strzok texts? Trying to think this through.
Where did the most recent texts come from (titled: Grassley text messages-oct 28,etc)? Why would they leak texts that make them look bad. Did Grassley release them? Or were they another plant? I am so confused right now, Sundance, Help!

Another possibility is that they were planning on deleting a bunch of texts as personal, in the same manner as Hillary’s 33,000 yoga and Chelsea wedding videos. Instead, events have caught up with them

Looking back at all of the previous articles, stories, etc., that have been released in the past couple of years, it would behoove one to look at the actual content of the articles. What messages were being relayed?

Yes, we know about the tweets containing code words, but the articles themselves as well.

Sundance was just pointing out words in the above article of how the narrative of the ‘official story’ was directed by the sources.

Who is to say that the sources were not communicating with their accomplices outside of the inner circle. Example, Farkas saying that they had to get as much information out as soon as possible before the Trump Administration moved in.

Just a few thoughts on that matter. Which now brings us back to the innocuous statement by Comey.

These people are cold blooded killers, which is exactly why I have proposed that covert intel assets, wet work cleanwers should be tasked with the cleanup of this espionage conglomerate by EXTREME PREJUDICE.

When there is a body count, watch and see how big is the mouth of Adam Schiff & Co.

I feel what you’re saying waltherppk, but that would not be the way to go in a lawful society. Yes, they broke the law, but to execute them in a secretive manner would just allow the wound to fester until it pops again.

No, we need convictions and punishments, whether life time imprisonment or executions. They must be done in a lawful manner, else, we are no better than the traitors themselves.

Chuck Schumer ought to be taken to the San Francisco pier where Kate Steinle died, along with every mayor of every sanctuary city, they should line them up and summarily execute every stinking one of them on the exact spot where that dying woman cried out Daddy help me.

I have ZERO patience with domestic enemies, and it isn’t any “contest” to determine who is “better” …..it is only a contest to see who is left standing, a patriot vigilante or a traitor.

Our republic is infested with criminals who do the things they do partly because they are not sufficiently terrified that somebody will kill them as an intervention. That lack of belief becoming sufficiently contradicted by the reality of a thug littered countryside will make believers out of them and at the same time rid society of the burden of domestic enemies.

Law enforcement and courts being overwhelmed or their purpose being non-existent is WHY there are millions of illegal aliens, many dealing drugs in the U.S. and killing U.S. Citizens, and ALL of them need to go and their enablers likewise.

It isn’t a civil rights issue, it is a national security and public safety issue where the conventional authorities are and have been completely overwhelmed for decades. When the authorities can’t or won’t take care of business because they are corrupt, then to where does the duty to respond fall but on The People. The authority to take action can only be delegated to hired public servants because it is an authority that resides originally and inherently with The People and that authority delegated isn’t forfeited by The People simply hiring out some of the work. Everybody being rendered impotent to defend the republic because of LAW is not the purpose or function of law. When a national emergency exists, and it does, the “rules” are “flexible”.

And when it gets to that point, that our laws have become impotent, that our government no longer has the authority, trust, or right to act on the behalf of its’ citizens in good faith that said government was elected to serve, we have The 2nd Amendment.

Until then, the rule of law should remain unless you would like to see this country turned into a dictatorship. Mob rule is what has happened around many countries in this world.

President Donald John Trump was elected as our representative. Do we now, at this time rescind our election of him and remove his ability to perform the duties we elected him to perform? Did he not run as a law and order president? Has he not been working diligently to keep the promises that he made to us, the American people?

He himself called these people traitors. Let’s let the contract he made with us be fulfilled. he said Clinton would be in jail if he was President.

Let’s let him do his job first.

Yes, it frustrates me as well, but the entire cancer must be cut out instead of just the surface signs. Deeps wounds and cuts must be performed to remove the cancer, lest it returns.

Yeah I hear you. I just think about for example the case of that olympic doctor for girl gymnists as one example. I know that if the first father to learn of that crime had thoroughly counseled the doctor against such behavior using a baseball bat as the instrument of convincing and persuasion and education, as a practical solution there would not have been more than 150 girls molested. So how much patience are a people expected to have with “letting the law take care of …..whatever” when “the law” can’t get the job done. On balance would it have been such an offense for the father of the first girl molested to beat that son of a bitch “doctor” to death?

The father would have, in his eyes, doing the right thing, yet by presupposing the rule of law, would have ended wrongly convicted.

So therein lies a catch 22, deal true justice and abrogate your freedom, or allow the justice system to work and then change the laws to be reflect the just punishment as opposed to this
liberal
hypocrisy to continue festering in our courts.

I hear and understand exactly what you are saying, but the alternative is the further erosion of our country morals and in the end, the traitorous liberals win.

No, we must return to the rule of law, no matter how much it may hurt now, to let our emotions rule us brings only destruction.

We just had 8 years of a traitor in the White House, 2 years to erase that stain is better than 50 years of desolation.

A purge of domestic enemies would not bring 50 years of desolation. It might bring 6 months of hand wringing by people saying isn’t it just awful what things came to a head with domestic enemies and got squared away the old fashioned way.

by going with Waltherppk’s solution these bastards will live in fear every moment of their miserable lives. It will not matter if they are questioned, indicted, charged, arrested, convicted whatever, they know that the ‘wetworks crew’ has THEIR number and will get to them eventually. The scary part is when, to day tomorrow, tonight.

At the administrative level of intelligence agency work the oversight and avenues of legal recourse often becomes impractical or impossible for a “law and order” type of more conventional “judicial” solution to what has been espionage. Historically the way crimes involving espionage are solved by most countries and that includes the U.S. is the perpetrators are pretty much just summarily executed or have an unfortunate “accident”. Sure there have been espionage trials, but that is not the way things are generally tidied up with no loose ends by the intel community. It is similar to what occurred with de-nazification, where there was a search world wide for certain “missing nazis” and when they were found they were not “arrested” …..they were simply shot.

The game changes as well in cases of espionage when one makes themselves eligible for enemy combatant status… those who actually have cooperated with/involved themselves with foreign entities against their own nation have certainly changed the game in an area where definition is or can be murky at best.

Hence the December EO? Sh!t can get real serious and really quick if it goes that route somewhere down the line. That would bypass the entire corrupted lot of alphabet agencies and open the door to eradicating them as well.

There is wet work that must be done to gut the present metastatic conspiracy of domestic enemies that is a threat growing at a faster pace than civilized countermeasures can contain. The nature of a militant threat is something that requires an in kind response as a matter of operational practicality. Some threats you can counter by calling a cop or a lawyer, but there certainly are threats of different nature for which the proper response is to directly eliminate that threat in the most expedient way available. It may not be a pleasant reality to accept, and hey I don’t like it either, but that is the situation we are surveying that threatens the republic. When you have a problem with certain species of vermin, you require the services of an exterminator, not a law professor.

Communists who operate openly in the U.S. should become martyrs for the cause, and the wave of “protestors” of that purge need to join them in martyrdom, and so on until the job of putting down that “movement” is done. The place where the greatest population of communists should be found is the cemetery.

The FBI and DOJ exist to put people in jail period. They are all lawyers. They should not be allowed to communicate on any personal device of any technology about any case. When they take a case for prosecution all communications they have should be turned over to defense period. The government should not be allowed to keep any communications or techniques used to collect evidence a secret.

If caught breaking any of those rules they should be jailed for a mandatory 10 years. No early release. And upon completion of there sentence they would never be allowed to work in any form of government or hold any public office. Also would forfeit any professional license they may hold.

All members of the FBI and DOJ should have to prove every year how they have paid for any
Personal collateral. This would help Identify cops on the take.

Every 6 months undergo a polygraph test.

They imprison people for a living, so they should be the most open in their jobs. No hiding.

If it comes down to a government employee’s word against a defendants word, the defendants word should prevail. Remember to convict should be without any doubt based on evidence.

I actually agree! This communicating on personal emails or phones, making up fake names to use, getting really tired of hearing about this all through the Government. These people work for us, they know what they signed up for….there has to be consequences!

This is the next desperate grasp at straws. They put a pic of Trump next to Putin – with no reference regarding Trump at all. Also, funny how this alleged activity is going on while Obama is in charge of the FBI and Debbie Wasserman Shultz has a gang of Pakistani “IT Admins” savaging congressional computers / servers.

I’m formerly a VP level IT security expert. The mickey mouse audit Crowdstrike did on the DNC server reads like a port-scan-log for any old box on the internet. So, this “Dutch surprise” is garbage, as is the report from Crowdstrike. That server was a victim of a LEAK, not a hack.

IP’s from all over the world scan for open and vulnerable ports 24/7/365. The best hackers don’t use an IP you’ll ever see unless they WANT you to see it – or it is a quick hit-and-run. They allege the activity was going for “years”.

The Dutch are throwing a pathetic lifeline of slippery dental floss to Obama and Hillary. Won’t work.

Last Sunday on Dutch television programme College Tour, Rob Bertholee, head of AIVD, said that he had no doubt that the Kremlin was directly responsible for the Russian cyber campaign against U.S. government agencies. Bertholee as well as Pieter Bindt, who was heading MIVD at the time, personally discussed the DNC matter with James Clapper, at the time overall head of the US intelligence services, and Michael Rogers, who is soon to retire as the head of the NSA.

As of now, the AIVD hackers do not seem to have access to Cozy Bear any longer. Sources suggest that the openness of US intelligence sources, who in 2017 praised the help of a Western ally in news stories, may have ruined their operation. The openness caused great anger in The Hague and Zoetermeer. In the television programme College Tour, this month, AIVD director Bertholee stated that he is extra careful when it comes to sharing intelligence with the U.S., now that Donald Trump is President.

Besides the wonderful research linked above, here’s a very quick retort one can use to knock out the Dutch intel story (see bold):

In this 10-24-16 puff piece by Esquire on Crowdstrike, we find a nugget – “Fancy Bear” and “Cozy Bear” are names created by Crowdstrike. The purported Russian hackers do not call themselves that. It’s Crowdstrike’s name for them!!! It’s become so used by know-nothing “experts” in the media that people believe that’s what the hackers call themselves.

So, how did Dutch intel know anything about those names – the Russians aren’t as stupid as CNN* to put those names in their coding!

Excerpt from Esquire article:
“Inevitably there were questions about the strange names his company had given the Russian hackers. As it happened, “Fancy Bear” and “Cozy Bear” were part of a coding system Alperovitch had created. Animals signified the hackers’ country of origin: Russians were bears, Chinese were pandas, Iranians were kittens, and North Koreans were named for the chollima, a mythical winged horse. By company tradition, the analyst who discovers a new hacker gets to choose the first part of the nickname. Cozy Bear got its nickname because the letters coz appeared in its malware code. Fancy Bear, meanwhile, used malware that included the word Sofacy, which reminded the analyst who found it of the Iggy Azalea song “Fancy.” ”
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This announcement from the SEC link above-if you go to the search box and type in “Strzok” this article is the only thing to come up yet inside this article there is nothing in it about “Strzok”. They wiped her married name or his name completely and forgot to remove it from search.

‘The wife of New York World columnist Heywood Broun, Ruth Hale challenged in federal court any government edict that would not recognize a married woman (such as herself) by the name she chose to use.[3] The only one in her household called Mrs. Heywood Broun was the cat.”

The real confusion that has come to exist about the common law and traditional usual practice of a married woman’s name change to legally take the husbands family name is due to the present day departure for a “marriage” alleged to exist for persons having the same gender which makes it irrelevant the gender identity that would generally be accepted as common law and common practice.

In a present day stipulated “marriage” where there is no husband and wife even possible,
……..well use whatever name works ……LOL

If there is “lover” talk, it would be among the “personal” and “irrelevant” texts that were redacted. Someone from IG could request confirmation about that I would think, without literally reveal them.

FOX had reported back in December that the DOJ was reviewing the texts and redacting certain parts. And I had read elsewhere (still trying to find it) that they were specifically redacting personal details and even not sending texts that were entirely personal, to spare the schlubs embarrassment, like at this point it matters considering they were trying to stage a coup.

Actually, why does it matter if there are, or are not, amorous texts? The fact that they might exist doesn’t make them believable. If they intended to fake an affair as a cover for their activities, you would expect they would fake appropriate message traffic as well.

S & P are trained, veteran intelligence agency employees, and we are the fools if we accept their little imitation of lovelorn high-schoolers. They’re spooks, for God’s sake.

The only value I can see is,- if Strzok and Page concocted a phony romance story to hide their “work” to clear HRC and get DJT, it would show – intent to deceive, which would show that they knew they were doing something illegal. That would strengthen the conspiracy charge as well.

Is it possible that Strzok and Page pissed of Barrett so he didn’t feel compelled to protect them any more? Maybe they called him “schlubby” just like they did that other journalist, and maybe Barrett found out about it.

I just cannot accept that Strzok and Page were very clever. Strzok is an egotistical a-hole and his ego made him somewhat stupid. Page was so stupid that she couldn’t even figure out that searching for info about a reporter and his wife and trying to find their address USING HER WORK PHONE was a bad thing to do. The dumb ho has a husband and a kid! Not sure about Strzok but he’s a total piece of work narcissist and I’m surprised Page could stand him, but maybe that’s just more evidence of her underlying stupidity.

Nunes and I think Gowdy and others have seen all of the Strzok and Page texts that were delivered by the DOJ thus far. We have only seen the tiniest fraction of them. I was going to look this up … does anyone know if Nunes or Gowdy or Gaetz or Jordan or any of the others who have seen the texts referred to Strzok and Page as “lovers” or as having an affair? Because if they have then I’m going to assume it’s the truth. I’m going to search now ….

There may be a lot more going on with Devlin Barrett than meets the eye. He used to write for WSJ back in 2013. He wrote a great deal about FBI, spying, and hacking. His connection to the FBI goes back years. There are 284 files in Wikileaks but the ones to focus on are in the Hacking Team section. The Hacking Team is a Italian surveillance malware vendor.

There, that will put an end to all the nonsense being spoken around here about the affair actually being cover for their political activities. Of course, we’re assuming that this report is correct, but it seems reasonable and verifiable.

Don’t mean to be prickly, but there is no sourcing or attribution given for that statement in the article. It’s just stated as a given, and I’m in no mood to believe The Hill for anything not sourced or given with context.

If the DOJ did tell Congress that Strzok and Page were having an affair then there might be some quote from a Senator or Representative about it. That’s what I’m looking for now. That Hill article was meant more to be a solid lead, not definitive evidence. I should have made that clear.

I’ve been wondering about the lack of personal comments you would expect from both of them having an affair. IMO Sundance’s spidey sense is correct. The affair was concocted to draw attention away from and cover for the treason. It’s why they’re both still married. They explained to their spouses that the affair is a cover for the investigation into PDJT. No doubt their spouses are as anti-Trump as they are, so it may not be hard for them to believe.

Keep in mind that we normal citizens have only seen a tiny tiny fraction of the texts. Nunes and others have seen way more. The DOJ has seen them all and is holding some back that are purely personal and redacting some others of their personal details. You cannot base any theories on the lack of personal details in the texts if all of the personal details have been removed.

Correct, and Occam’s Razor applies here, i.e. the personal details were removed. Also, your link to The Hill article just above more or less settles the issue – Congress was notified by the Justice Department that the two were having an affair.

Yesterday “Congress” (well, a member thereof) told us about the “secret society” message, and he’s busy walking that back today. Which neither proves nor disproves its validity, as things are so convoluted and corrupted.

Here’s what I don’t understand and would like someone to explain to me….
#1 ) Why create a false relationship between Page and Strozck?
#2 ) 50k text messages over a 6 month period of time is about 278 per day and considering that they work 8 hours per day that is roughly a text every 90 seconds…..and that doesn’t even factor in the fact that they only worked 5 days a week….so my question is this….if all they ever had time to do at work is text each other why text?….why not just pop in and out of each other’s offices because they weren’t getting any work done anyway…..why risk having it all cataloged on their phones for public consumption just as is happening now.

Google is refusing me on a search attempt for Devlin Barrett. The only other time this has happened was when I searched for firearms related data. Claims “unusual network traffic”. I’m curious if others have the same results.

Ah, Trisha! I don’t think Page liked her, have to go back to read texts. The folks listed on that link of awards are some of the thousands of hardworking employees. I wonder if Page/Strzok will get the “Fraud Prevention award.

Trisha Anderson, an adviser in the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel who was also hired by the Bush Administration, was previously an attorney at Attorney General Eric Holder’s former firm, Covington & Burling, where she helped represent 13 Yemeni detainees.http://prospect.org/article/smeared-doj-lawyers-named

Oh my gosh, I just read your comment above about the award, and now I’m reading your comment that she used to work for Holder’s private law firm. Ooooh that must have burned Strzok and Page when Holder gave Anderson an award. Probably came with a pay raise.

James Baker has made prior visits to the WH, according to the log. There was a frequency spike in spring 2016, with his first group meeting in the spring with these DOJ attorneys.

The DOJ attorneys also make frequent visits to the WH. The last time James Baker met with any of the attorneys on the WH logs appears to be in 2015 (Tashina Guahar). The DOJ attorneys Tashina Guahar, Christopher Hardee, Brad Wiegmann are FISA attorneys. There are some FISA docs available online with their info on them.

The Department is not providing text messages that were purely personal in nature. Furthermore, the Department has redacted from some work-related text messages portions that were purely personal. The Department’s aim in withholding purely personal text messages and redacting personal portions of work-related text messages was primarily to facilitate the Committee’s access to potentially relevant text messages without having to cull through large quantities of material […] Also, the withholding of personal information in some instances avoids unnecessary embarrassment or harassment to third parties that could result from public release of such information

The absence of amorous content means absolutely nothing. If it exists, it has been redacted. Only the DOJ has seen all of the unredacted text messages.

Although the requested included texts through July 28, 2017, there were no text messages between Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page after July 1, 2017, and the messages after June 25, 2017 were personal in nature.

> “were Peter Strzok and Lisa Page actually having
> an affair? Or, was the “affair” simply an effective
> narrative, entirely constructed to describe the
> scope of their communication and cover-up a
> larger and far more looming truth, a bigger
> conspiracy?”

KGB Training Manuals instructed new operatives in the Intel, Counter-Intel, and Counter-Counter-Intel subterfuge, taught that for every disruptive Meme injected into the Press, that it had to contain seeds for a greater Intel Meme that could be enacted, if the original Meme were exposed as an Intel planted lie to mislead the public.

It is entirely possible that Linda Page was not stroking Peter Strzok’s peter, as his mistress, but instead, that story is a planted counter-Intel story to be used as a back-up disrupter for the protection of the lying FBI Agents and DoJ Attorneys, if they were exposed (LIKE NOW!).

Never trust a LIAR to be honest. They are LIARS.

We Deplorables need to watch our backs, in case the Obama FBI and DoJ get together to hatch a multi-layered attack on all of us.

Because of this FISA memo Mueller will be rushing his investigation. He will be throwing everything against the wall to see what sticks (Trump wanting to fire Mueller but didn’t is now obstruction). Look for Mueller to indict again soon.

“As an example, a Justice Department official may know one of their aligned colleagues might be scheduled for questioning by congressional oversight. The insider, perhaps from a different sub-department within the DOJ, would have knowledge of the information provided to congress -and- desire to prepare their colleague by leaking the content of the information they have provided.”

Oh, it’s so bloody simple. I’m surprised that we all missed that maybe bad actors were preparing other bad actors for their testimony by leaking to the press. I always had a nagging suspicion in the back of my head that S. Carter’s reporting was off. Now I see that she is possibly too eager and too entranced w/ sudden fame to really question what is being told to her by “sources”.

While reading the texts I was wondering if there was an affair going on. Then I thought that maybe to save their spouses’ feelings, the doj/congress decided not publish those salacious bits. Now, I’m thinking I might be wrong re. the comment I made a few days ago about their relationship and personalities. I will say that both are narcissistic, entitled, vile, and entrenched in their belief system. They will never admit guilt because they don’t believe they did anything wrong. However, I DO believe that their bosses knew what P & S were doing and tacitly or overtly approved. P & S did not do this plotting on their own.
Where We go One, WE GO ALL.
FOR GOD AND COUNTRY

I think there is a lot going on behind the scenes that we arent privy to. There is a lot of distraction too. Like the story of the porn star and POTUS, and the new story that FLOTUS is so upset shes staying at a posh DC hotel instead of Trump Intl. to get away from him.

I personally think that Feb is going to be the month where all of this corruption and depravity will be exposed. We have to keep our eyes open and read between the lines on everything. Whats coming is going to be so exciting!