Guy and Rene talk to Michael Jurewitz (Jury), formerly developer tools evangelist at Apple, now director of product development at Black Pixel, about Kaleidoscope 2, the realities of Apple, how to ship software, how to price software, and dealing with that Daft Punk helmet.

Marc, Seth, and Rene talk to Gedeon Maheux and David Lanham of the Iconfactory about Twitterrific 5, their completely re-designed Twitter app, and about iTunes 11, Apple's completely re-designed… everything app. This is Iterate.