I forgot Shabazz. UCLA players are ALWAYS viewed as overrated and then end up tearing up the league. His college season was pretty lackluster but don't forget all the bullshit he went through to start the season. He's got great lateral quickness and is VERY strong. Definitely NBA ready. I think at worst he'll be a very good sixth man.

atlanta only has 22 million in guaranteed contracts. basically the whole team is up for FA except for horford and lou williams. they build a team full of rookies, tank it this year, sign wiggins and load up on superstars in 2014. sounds like a plan to me!

atlanta only has 22 million in guaranteed contracts. basically the whole team is up for FA except for horford and lou williams. they build a team full of rookies, tank it this year, sign wiggins and load up on superstars in 2014. sounds like a plan to me!

I must be in the minority who view his value underrated due to questions about factors that won't prevent him from playing in the league a long time. I'm thinking Mo Pete potential.

I don't think anything about how I see his value is affected by other factors. I'm not high on him.

If I want to target a shooter with solid intangibles, that's Karasev. Excellent shooter, good intangibles on both ends, crafty playmaker. He's always excelled and been one of the best players in the world in his age group. Very competitive player. I don't worry about whether he can be a keeper, I just wonder what his ceiling is. My hope is a Garbo-type player with better shooting and passing. Oh, and he's a lefty, who can go and finish right.

I thought about that with Atlanta, but I don't know what their asking price will be. They could easily end up in tank mode next season....and so would be reluctant to part with young pieces as they will be stocking up on them.

atlanta only has 22 million in guaranteed contracts. basically the whole team is up for FA except for horford and lou williams. they build a team full of rookies, tank it this year, sign wiggins and load up on superstars in 2014. sounds like a plan to me!

It sounds like they're going all-in to sign BOTH Howard and CP3 this summer... there's a funny article on ESPN about a letter to their season ticket holders about targeting those two, which is technically a violation of the league's tampering rules... the Hawks can't do anything right! lol

It sounds like they're going all-in to sign BOTH Howard and CP3 this summer... there's a funny article on ESPN about a letter to their season ticket holders about targeting those two, which is technically a violation of the league's tampering rules... the Hawks can't do anything right! lol

And really, what are the odds even ONE of them would go there? Man...Atlanta's just a mess all the time, no matter what or how they're doing on the court. Just a mess.

And really, what are the odds even ONE of them would go there? Man...Atlanta's just a mess all the time, no matter what or how they're doing on the court. Just a mess.

I wouldn't discount Ferry in Atlanta...how did he convince the Nets to take on Joe Johnson? Also ATL is Howard's hometown and that CP3 went to Wake Forest U. in NC not too far away. And they have the cap room. If he can put a supporting cast (already has Smoove and Horford) together it might not be as much a pipedream.

I wouldn't discount Ferry in Atlanta...how did he convince the Nets to take on Joe Johnson? Also ATL is Howard's hometown and that CP3 went to Wake Forest U. in NC not too far away. And they have the cap room. If he can put a supporting cast (already has Smoove and Horford) together it might not be as much a pipedream.

It is going to be tough to do regardless but when talking about CP3/Howard/Smoove/Horford, you are only going to be able to have 3 of the 4. There is NO way to get 4 of them on the same roster without one of them taking the top up exception or veteran's minimum.

It is going to be tough to do regardless but when talking about CP3/Howard/Smoove/Horford, you are only going to be able to have 3 of the 4. There is NO way to get 4 of them on the same roster without one of them taking the top up exception or veteran's minimum.

You are right of course...I should have been more explicit... that Smoove and Horford could be used as assets in a trade (or sign&) for a less costly supporting cast.