When I seen Lamar Miller, a projected 1st rounder sitting there with our third round pick, I thought it would of been a great pick up. He was the best player on most boards, and he could of been a nice back to replace Michael Bush. (and only 21)I know the Goodson trade was prior, which is why Reggie prolly didn't pick Lamar. I would of just not made that trade and kept Bruce Campbell as a reserve or drafted another guard in the mid rounds. Also I would of took a chance with Vonteze Burficit with our seventh round pick. Too much potential and talent to pass up at the time. Vonteze instead of Stupar, and Lamar Miller with our class would of gave our draft an A. I know, I know... Hindset is 20/20 but I really wanted that to occur, with me being okay with all other picks. Also as undrafted free agents I really wanted Janzen Jenkins, who is already cut from the Giants, I prolly never would of found Rod Streeter. Great gem Reggie

Vonteze Lamar Miller and Bruce Campbell or

Bergstorm(24 yr old and is not an instant starter:/), Mike Goodsen ( Mr.Fumble), Nathan Stupar

Goodson was ran out of town in Carolina for a reason. Bergstorm canít even beat out coop, a right tackle who wasnít even all PAC 12 old too, and Nathan who everyone says he is a special teamer at best.

At that point in the 7th round roll the dice Reggie, Vonteze would be been brilliant. First round talent there in the 7th , sure it would of been a gamble but itís a late round pick they all are.. Bruce Campbell wasnt the best but I would of gave him one more year to play back up guard and maybe it would click. If not I would upgrade in 2013 via mid round pick or FA. Lamar Miller also had a 1st round grade, young fast good size and was great in Miami.

When I seen Lamar Miller, a projected 1st rounder sitting there with our third round pick, I thought it would of been a great pick up. He was the best player on most boards, and he could of been a nice back to replace Michael Bush. (and only 21)I know the Goodson trade was prior, which is why Reggie prolly didn't pick Lamar. I would of just not made that trade and kept Bruce Campbell as a reserve or drafted another guard in the mid rounds. Also I would of took a chance with Vonteze Burficit with our seventh round pick. Too much potential and talent to pass up at the time. Vonteze instead of Stupar, and Lamar Miller with our class would of gave our draft an A. I know, I know... Hindset is 20/20 but I really wanted that to occur, with me being okay with all other picks. Also as undrafted free agents I really wanted Janzen Jenkins, who is already cut from the Giants, I prolly never would of found Rod Streeter. Great gem Reggie

Vonteze Lamar Miller and Bruce Campbell or

Bergstorm(24 yr old and is not an instant starter:/), Mike Goodsen ( Mr.Fumble), Nathan Stupar

Goodson was ran out of town in Carolina for a reason. Bergstorm canít even beat out coop, a right tackle who wasnít even all PAC 12 old too, and Nathan who everyone says he is a special teamer at best.

At that point in the 7th round roll the dice Reggie, Vonteze would be been brilliant. First round talent there in the 7th , sure it would of been a gamble but itís a late round pick they all are.. Bruce Campbell wasnt the best but I would of gave him one more year to play back up guard and maybe it would click. If not I would upgrade in 2013 via mid round pick or FA. Lamar Miller also had a 1st round grade, young fast good size and was great in Miami.

Yeah Goodson was ran out of town because he had 2 backs ahead of him on the depth chart. Bruce Campbell doing good! Where did you hear that? lets see what he does in regular season. Bergstrom is our backup guard and is already better than Campbell. Aint like Campbell was going to beat out anybody. Burficit may not even be in the league if he doesnt keep his head on straight. Hindsight is 20/20 but lets wait until they actually play in games before we star talking about we should have did this or that._________________I felt a great disturbance in the forum, like millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, then were silenced.
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Fail on so many levels. How can you grade a draft an A before any of these guys have even played a game. And you say we gave up on Campbell to soon but your giving up on bergstrom already. Sorry but other than Lamar miller I disagree with pretty much everything you had to say._________________
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Fail on so many levels. How can you grade a draft an A before any of these guys have even played a game. And you say we gave up on Campbell to soon but your giving up on bergstrom already. Sorry but other than Lamar miller I disagree with pretty much everything you had to say.

Bergstorm needs to win that spot. Clock is ticking. He's already 26! Nathan is a fringe player Vonteze could be special

Fail on so many levels. How can you grade a draft an A before any of these guys have even played a game. And you say we gave up on Campbell to soon but your giving up on bergstrom already. Sorry but other than Lamar miller I disagree with pretty much everything you had to say.

Bergstorm needs to win that spot. Clock is ticking. He's already 26! Nathan is a fringe player Vonteze could be special

Hes doesn't need to win the spot this year. Eagles drafted a 27 year old OL in the FIRST round and I don't even think he started to begin the season. Right now, we're better off with Carlisle and no changes need to be made to the O Line, they gel together nicely._________________O A K L A N D R A I D E R S

cut Cooper. Brought back Samson and left Wiz at LG. Our left side was special last year. Samson played good too. We wouldn't of drafted an Olineman because Samson is not old.. Samson is also a great fit for zone

3 players that were available that the Raiders passed on that disappointed me the most:

RB Lamar Miller Rd4/#97 - I would have drafted him despite the Goodson trade
NT Josh Chapman Rd5/#136 - what a steal!
OLB/DE Jonathan Massaquoi Rd5/164- my steal of draft selection looks great in Atlanta. Athletically superior to Burris. A physical specimen who is looking stellar so far. Had the Raiders drafted him he would have softened the Curry blow and there would have been no need to audition Andre Carter.

Bergstrom who was described as the best ZBS lineman in the draft has failed to beat out the unimpressive Carlisle. The rumor is that Bergs was all Wiz's pick. Perhaps his failure was the catalyst for his exit._________________

Nodisrespect wrote:

(on building inside out) teams without highly draft DT's make the playoffs and win the superbowl regularly.

Bonez wrote:

Teams that win Superbowls and make the playoffs aren't picking in the Top 5, clearly

3 players that were available that the Raiders passed on that disappointed me the most:

RB Lamar Miller Rd4/#97 - I would have drafted him despite the Goodson trade
NT Josh Chapman Rd5/#136 - what a steal!
OLB/DE Jonathan Massaquoi Rd5/164- my steal of draft selection looks great in Atlanta. Athletically superior to Burris. A physical specimen who is looking stellar so far. Had the Raiders drafted him he would have softened the Curry blow and there would have been no need to audition Andre Carter.

Bergstrom who was described as the best ZBS lineman in the draft has failed to beat out the unimpressive Carlisle. The rumor is that Bergs was all Wiz's pick. Perhaps his failure was the catalyst for his exit.

Agreed on Massaquoi for sure. I know we were both high on him and he was there for the taking. He would have been a great scheme fit.

I'm notnready to count out Bergstrom. I waasnt a big fan of the pick, but he hasn't looked bad or make many noticeable mistakes. I could see him starting soon._________________

Fail on so many levels. How can you grade a draft an A before any of these guys have even played a game. And you say we gave up on Campbell to soon but your giving up on bergstrom already. Sorry but other than Lamar miller I disagree with pretty much everything you had to say.

Bergstorm needs to win that spot. Clock is ticking. He's already 26! Nathan is a fringe player Vonteze could be special

Bergstrom doesn't have the wear and tear. He was on a 2 year Church mission before enrolling at Utah.

Theres nothing special about Burfict._________________

SaveourSonics wrote:

Yea, RaiderX wins. We can all just top acting like this is a matter of opinion. MY GOD.

Fail on so many levels. How can you grade a draft an A before any of these guys have even played a game. And you say we gave up on Campbell to soon but your giving up on bergstrom already. Sorry but other than Lamar miller I disagree with pretty much everything you had to say.

Bergstorm needs to win that spot. Clock is ticking. He's already 26! Nathan is a fringe player Vonteze could be special

Bergstrom doesn't have the wear and tear. He was on a 2 year Church mission before enrolling at Utah.

Theres nothing special about Burfict.

Besides, OL have a longer life in the NFL than a lot of positions. Its not like we drafted a 26 year old RB with 1500 college carries on his resume. How can anybody write Bergstrom off already? I wanted Ta'amu at that pick or Chapman in the 5th but you know what? I'm not a GM, I have zero professional football experience and I am OK with letting a seemingly competent GM do his thing._________________

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La_Vader wrote:

I wouldn't trade Pryor for any prospect in this years draft. Quote me on that

Brought back Samson and left Wiz at LG. Our left side was special last year. Samson played good too. We wouldn't of drafted an Olineman because Samson is not old.. Samson is also a great fit for zone

Valdheer Wiz Samson Brisel Barnes

Actually, we did the first part. Afaik Carlisle was under contract but we released him and he re-signed a new (aka less dollar) contract. I have no issue with keeping him with his new contract.

I would have liked us to keep Samson as well, but i think he signed a $3+ million a year contract with the colts and we didn't have the money for such a contract. We spend that money on Brisel.

I don't know who is better value for money, Brisel or Satele, simply since I have no opinion on Brisel yet. Imo Satele is a decent center but will never be a top 5-10 guy at the position. Brisel as i said i don't have an opinion on yet, apart from that our OC worked with him at the texans so i'd assume he has a good indication of what brisel is capable of (otherwise why sign him?). That makes me feel comfortable of the signing.