iOS 6 Maps app: "you’re literally not going to find things"

iOS 6 is rolling out to all users today and the biggest change everyone updating will see is the disappearing Google Maps in favor of brand new Apple Maps application.

Apple is definitely trying to distance itself from the Google ecosystem, however in the case with the maps it’s losing one of the best and most detailed data sets only to use one of the weakest ones in the industry.

How do we know? Navigation app Waze chief executive Noam Bardin revealed this in an interview.

“Apple went out and partnered with the weakest player,” Bardin said. “They’re now coming out with the lowest, weakest data set and they’re competing against Google, which has the highest data set. What’s going to happen with the Apple maps, is that you’re literally not going to find things. When you do find them, they might be in the wrong place or position geographically. And if you do have it, the route to it may not be the optimal route.”

Not just users will be unhappy, though. A huge number of mobile app developers are reportedly looking for ways to integrate navigation apps like Waze in their apps instead of Apple’s new mapping service.

“They’re saying many things that used to work on Google don’t work on Apple,” Bardin added. “Going forward now, we’re going to see this around maps, it’s the question of how fast Apple can work with their partners to update the data and how good the user experience will be.”

Apple replaced Google Maps after its license agreement with Google ran out earlier and will now further hope to have users in an even more vertically integrated system with its own maps.

Honestly, I only use Waze. The Google map system isn't that great, and I have had zero problems with Waze. It does everything Google maps does, and more effectively. Not to mention its FREE. I'm sure iOS maps will surpass Google in no time, since they perfect everything they do. Google is fragmented with ALL of their apps, making it harder for developers to work with changing code for different screen sizes and such. Moving forward, I think it is the best solution for Apple to rid Google out of their platform.

You are sadly mistaken if you that that Apple will be able to bring thier maps system anywhere near Google in the short term. First off, Apple is only going to send out an update for Maps once a year like they do with everything else... so for aleast the next year Apple Maps will be garbage. on top of that Google has spent like 10 years or so collecting mapping information. This is not something Apple will be able to do overnight. All in all Apple has only gimped thier device for the sake of trying to hurt Google which I don't believe it actually will. In some ways it may help Google as it could push user away from the iPhone in favor of an Android device where Google Maps and the rest of thier service are all heavily integrated.

Have you used Apple maps? I have used Waze for my iPhone and it finds way more locations than that of Google. Google is a fragmented OS, and will always try to live up to everyone's expectations, but fail to do so.

Even if we don't have Apple maps right from the get go, there are other applications that you can download that use a different map system. Easy.

have you ever used the real google maps on android ?? that is a real map.. google maps on apple is retarded but I think they did that on purpose.. apples lame anyways the new features just rip off most of androids already built in features.

Have I used Apple Maps... No because it hadn't been released yet so neither had you. Pretty simple answer. BUT... the general consensus from everyone who has, even pro Apple people, is that it inferior and has a long way to go. If you want to argue that then go ahead but you will only prove that you are just as stubborn as Apple and want to deny reality.

Apple's OS is fragmented as well since not all iPhones will get iOS 6 and even the ones that do will not all recieve the full update so you can just forget that argument. Let alone that we are talking about a mapping application and not an entire OS.

And please go ahead and use Waze... you are going to need it if your other option is Apple Maps. The only problem is that it will not be able to integrate into your OS the way that APple will have thier Maps do it and the way that Google allows Google Maps to do it.

I'm no developer, but I have done my research on coding for applications in iOS and Android. iOS is much easier to do, and looks better, than android apps. You're blind if you can't see that.

And tell me where I said Google maps arent free, oh yeah, I didn't!

I have ran into multiple issues with Google Maps, and I know that iOS is a more reliable platform with better app development. Again, you're blind if you dont realize that. You can't even sit there and say Android phones don't come with problems when they are first released, because that is garbage, but Apple actually puts time and effort to make it the best they possibly can. Anyone can make an app for android and put it on the play store, Apple looks over each individual app and says its OK to be released to the public. Do your research before you flame me bud. :)

"It does everything Google maps does, and more effectively. Not to mention its FREE." slight implication that the other being Google Maps is not free" otherwise why mention its free?

I never said that Apple apps are not refined lol because they are... I have had more than enough experience with iOS during my time with the 4/4s.

iOS may be a more reliable platform with better app development but that's because app developers are too lazy to code for multiple devices. Apple makes the minimum bumps to specs.. with minimal updates to their OS so go figure.. its easier for devs to keep up. I'm sure if Android manufacturers pushed 2 phones a year and the Android OS moved at a snails pace developers would have absolutely no issues polishing/refining their apps do you disagree?

In regards to Google Maps.. what issues have you had with them? And is that at the fault of using iOS Google Maps or the actual Android version? You cant sit there and say Apple has absolutely no issues with their devices when they are released, because that's garbage. Do you have any other issues with what Google puts out?

So it's easier to code for iOS than Android?
I wasn't aware that Objective C was more popular than Java.

As for reliability of apps, some reports have said that crashes are more frequent on iOS. Look at the Facebook app. The thing can't stay open for 5 minutes on my iPad. Granted, it's first generation, but it's not terribly intensive.

And closing up the ecosystem is a GOOD thing? How would you like it if every program on your PC had to be approved before you could install it?

um... you are just trolling right?
Make one wrong turn one Waze and it has you make five illgeal u-turns to have you get on the same route as before, it does not properly re-route.
Google Navigation is pretty solid for android and the voice is much better.

And just like that, Google Maps has just been updated for Android.
-Access your desktop and mobile search history through My Places.
-Single-handed zoom; double tap, then hold down your finger and slide to zoom.

Lol. Ok I'm wrong because I am in favor of Apple, regardless. You people are so retarded its hilarious. You guys stick yo your washed out, crappy operating system and I will stick to stuff that actually works.

i think the article is a little biased in the fact that TomTom is not exactly a "weak mapping company"… I'm sure waze would like to think of TomTom as weak since they are competitors… i do not doubt that the google integration was better, but if google would not let apple update with navigation, or something prevented them (probably apple's stubbornness) I would much rather have the new map program with navigation….

I think apple made the right decision as long as they work to improve the app regularly, i definitely like navigation over what we had before, and flyover is pretty cool

You must be out of your mind if you think "some GPS company" (which isn't even a known one, as said above it's the lowest and weakest in data) is more powerful than Google? Whose been around for so many years and has 10x the money than anyone of those other companies.

you can tell who is fanboy from some comments. give me one reason why would you use apple maps if you know that "you won't find things" over google maps where you can find almost everything except fanboyism?

you will not get money for using apple maps and you won't lose money for google maps. you, me and more people are just consumers, we need the best products to use. but some people just want to use apple products even if they are useless, and that is the definition of fanboy

My bad didn't mean to thumbs you down lol. Google maps has always been my go to nav for the longest time. Even when I was big on using Apple I just don't see apple catching up when Google maps is and will be growing exponentially regardless of competition.

They said Bardin retracted his statement "What’s going to happen with the Apple maps, is that you’re literally not going to find things. When you do find them, they might be in the wrong place or position geographically. And if you do have it, the route to it may not be the optimal route."

but hey news is news i guess... anything to add some spark to the day... seems like since yesterday the flame wars have died down a bit... nothing like a iMaps bashing to kick things off...

"UPDATE: Waze CEO Noam Bardin reached out to BGR to clarify his earlier statements. In no way does Mr. Bardin believe Apple’s maps will get you lost nor are they terrible, however the CEO reaffirmed his claim that Apple selected a weak data set when compared to Google." - source BGR

21.Aeires (unregistered)

google maps wasnt perfect when it launched either. but it was also the first of its kind in many respects as well as building on those that came before.

Apple's maps wont be perfect, but honestly they should still be able to make a mapping system that works "nearly as good" as google maps at least for landmarks and directions. There are so many mapping companies out there to work with. If they went with the guy with the "lowest data sets", that means they were the cheapest. Profit before functionality, the Apple way.

32.thelegend6657 (unregistered)

ha, they wouldnt use Bing, that would be helping another competitor. I actually expected them to go in with Garmin or one of the other struggling but known mapping companies with a big data base. Just have to assume that typical Apple wanted the full data set at fire sale pricing and they wouldnt bend. You get what you pay for some times.

"Profit before functionality" wow really.. because the iphone, the ipad and the iPods work very good, some may say that offer the best functionality.. out of any devices out there, is ok to hate Apple but don't have to sound ignorant

49.Savage (unregistered)

Regarding maps, Apple's Map is currently better than which map app? This troll keeps on saying it's better than Google's. Thats what am arguing about. As he failed to answer where he had to (in the previous comments) I'm asking him here. I don't have anything to do with iDevices other features.

yes gallito, but thats also at the expense of a very simple OS, hardware that is rarely near the cutting edge with the new i5 being an exception with the new processor.. until A15's come out anyways.
Apple has always taken profit before functionality. They spend less on R&D than pretty much every other company yet have double the profit margin. I think its pretty self explanatory.

84.thelegend6657 (unregistered)

I miss Nokia maps on my Nokia n97
Nokia maps used to be a paid app and s**t at 1st that's why I buy Garmin app for n97
Now Nokia maps is great
The nice thing about android is that you can enjoy a great google maps app preinstalled for free even the old ios5 google maps sucks compared with android's google map .
World's 2 best maps app , google maps and Nokia maps

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