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Re: Christians swears at Dawkins LOL

Religion debate - really don't undertand this whole type of thing at all . Perhaps it is that people who claim to believe in God essentially state that this omnipotent omnipresent being can be in any way affected by what one human being says or writes . If there is a god surely the disbelief of one person will in no way affect him ? Either there is a god or there isn't and no argument one way or the other will create or diminish him . But god is obviously so feeble this action must be taken for him , the Ayatollah's fatwa against Salman Rushdi , obviouly God could not do this alone so an elderly Iranian man had to do it for him .

Re: Christians swears at Dawkins LOL

I like Dawkins. I feel that he's been slipping under the radar in the past couple of years though. He got caught up in his militant philosophy and I feel that people have just moved on from being angry.

Re: Christians swears at Dawkins LOL

Despite him having what I consider to be quite a pompous demeanor, I have a lot of respect for Richard Dawkins. I don't share his anti-theistic views or his apparent love of mockery, but I have learned a lot from listening to him speak, and some of his perspectives have even helped to shape and solidify my view of the world.

This video doesn't interest me however. My main grievance is that by cherry-picking the impassioned words of a vocal minority, it gives the kids of /r/atheism ammunition to justify their conceited intolerance. I wont fault Dawkins for this, as it is not necessarily by his failing that others might presume these letters to be representative of Christianity as a whole; but I won't praise him for it either, as there is no real lesson to be learned from watching this.

Re: Christians swears at Dawkins LOL

Originally Posted by Anders123

... it gives the kids of /r/atheism ammunition to justify their conceited intolerance.

If there's anything us atheists are intolerant to, it's the vile words of hate that come from the mouths of the religious the world over - making a mockery of these delusional people is hardly anything compared to what said religious folk did to non-believers when the world was theocratic (e.g. burning them at the stake etc.)

Re: Christians swears at Dawkins LOL

Intolerance justified by good intent is the mantra of the oppressor. Do you really want to adopt that as your own?

Enlightenment is about leading and showing, not ridiculing or mocking. The supposed basis of atheism is rationalism, which isn't about petty exchanges or invectives. Mr. Dawkins draws fire because he departs from using rationalism to using invective.

Whereas religious people are certainly not right in petty attacks either, the exchanges are exhibitions of nastiness on both sides, not any endeavor at enlightenment. Both are tarred by their smallness and pique.

As have bankers, lawyers, JUBBERS, vegetarians, realtors, teachers, politicians, Dr. Seuss, musicians, actors, vegans, kings, humanitarians, athletes, artists, and people of every walk. There are very, very few absolutists in the world.

Basically you don't want Mr Dawkins to laugh and have fun about unproven religious views.
Most scientists should act more like Mr Dawkins.

Re: Christians swears at Dawkins LOL

Originally Posted by benno5693

If there's anything us atheists are intolerant to, it's the vile words of hate that come from the mouths of the religious the world over - making a mockery of these delusional people is hardly anything compared to what said religious folk did to non-believers when the world was theocratic (e.g. burning them at the stake etc.)

I think it's worth noting that my post referred to the nature of the posts in /r/atheism, not the attitudes of atheists ourselves. You're making this about atheism vs religiosity when it's a matter of tolerance vs intolerance. It’s important to be skeptical, to scrutinise, and even to criticise, but insipid image macros detailing why 'God's not real' or screenshots of Facebook conversations 'destroying' Christians in 'debates' is not productive, it's asinine. My post was referring to the pseudo-intellectual 'warriors of reason and logic' who plague the subreddit; the ones who would, ironically enough, take from this video that Christians are hateful hypocrites, and use that to justify their own intolerance.

Vile words of hate can come from the mouths of atheists, and words of love and support can come from the religious. It's important to recognise that not all religious individuals are hateful, and that not all atheists are rational and enlightened. It shouldn't be about us vs them, but mutual understanding, respect, and civil discussion. This video contains nothing other than petty derision from both sides; it's poison.

Re: Christians swears at Dawkins LOL

Originally Posted by Anders123

I think it's worth noting that my post referred to the nature of the posts in /r/atheism, not the attitudes of atheists ourselves. You're making this about atheism vs religiosity when it's a matter of tolerance vs intolerance. Itís important to be skeptical, to scrutinise, and even to criticise, but insipid image macros detailing why 'God's not real' or screenshots of Facebook conversations 'destroying' Christians in 'debates' is not productive, it's asinine. My post was referring to the pseudo-intellectual 'warriors of reason and logic' who plague the subreddit; the ones who would, ironically enough, take from this video that Christians are hateful hypocrites, and use that to justify their own intolerance.

Vile words of hate can come from the mouths of atheists, and words of love and support can come from the religious. It's important to recognise that not all religious individuals are hateful, and that not all atheists are rational and enlightened. It shouldn't be about us vs them, but mutual understanding, respect, and civil discussion. This video contains nothing other than petty derision from both sides; it's poison.

ummm this video is a poison?
That is abit over the top don't you think?