?I am thinking ahead, while I get through a siege of these horrible things: Can I?prevent my migraines???My doctor has tried me on almost every preventative medication there is without success, so now I'm thinking about food or other things.

What about triggers? ?I have no idea what causes my migraines. ?I've heard it could be almost anything under the sun. ?Something you ate, stress, or even the scent of someone's after shave lotion. ?

Is food the most common trigger? ?If so, how do I do a food diary?Does anyone know how this is done?

Does everyone with migraines HAVE a trigger? ?I used to have a pattern of 3 migraines, within 3 to 4 days, then no more for about a month. Then the same thing - 3 migraines within 3 to 4 days, then no more for about another month. ?That gave me the impression I didn't have a trigger. Nothing unusual was happening on those 3 or 4 days each month. ?They weren't exactly spaced and I'm post menopausal, so not hormones. ?But now that pattern has stopped and there is no telling when I'll get one. ?Currently, I'm on day 12 of a non-stop migraine, though not all of them are the horrible ones, thank heaven. (I'm at least lucky in that some of mine put me to bed and make me throw up but some are mild enough I can function.) Still - 12 days is about 12 too many and I'd really like to prevent them. ?I'll even give up chocolate!

So, any advice about triggers? ?Recommendations on how I figure out if I have a trigger? ?Information about food elimination methods?

I'd really, really, really like to be rid of these things. ?I would sure like to prevent these awful things, and to avoid rebound. What a choice! ?"Do I take Imitrex so I don't vomit? ?Or if I do take it, ?I might faced with a month of rebound migraines?!" ?If I can figure out what causes them, wow! ?I'd rather that than win the lottery!

What about triggers? ?I have no idea what causes my migraines. ?I've heard it could be almost anything under the sun. ?Something you ate, stress, or even the scent of someone's after shave lotion. ?

Is food the most common trigger? ?If so, how do I do a food diary?Does anyone know how this is done?

Does everyone with migraines HAVE a trigger? ?I used to have a pattern of 3 migraines, within 3 to 4 days, then no more for about a month. Then the same thing - 3 migraines within 3 to 4 days, then no more for about another month. ?That gave me the impression I didn't have a trigger. Nothing unusual was happening on those 3 or 4 days each month. ?They weren't exactly spaced and I'm post menopausal, so not hormones. ?But now that pattern has stopped and there is no telling when I'll get one. ?Currently, I'm on day 12 of a non-stop migraine, though not all of them are the horrible ones, thank heaven. (I'm at least lucky in that some of mine put me to bed and make me throw up but some are mild enough I can function.) Still - 12 days is about 12 too many and I'd really like to prevent them. ?I'll even give up chocolate!

So, any advice about triggers? ?Recommendations on how I figure out if I have a trigger? ?Information about food elimination methods?

I'd really, really, really like to be rid of these things. ?I would sure like to prevent these awful things, and to avoid rebound. What a choice! ?"Do I take Imitrex so I don't vomit? ?Or if I do take it, ?I might faced with a month of rebound migraines?!" ?If I can figure out what causes them, wow! ?I'd rather that than win the lottery!

Caprice, thank you so much for your reply. ?Can I ask you how you figured out it is poor sleep sometimes, dehydration sometimes, and various foods? ?Also, how did you figure out what foods?What about keeping a food journal or doing what I've read referred to as an "elimination" chart? ?How do I do those?

How do I keep a food journal?

How do I keep a "food elimination chart"? ?

Anyone know or have other comments on triggers?

I appreciate anyone's input.

Taj

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Report This| Share this:Questions: Triggers? Food diary? Does everyone even have a trigger?Caprice, thank you so much for your reply. ?Can I ask you how you figured out it is poor sleep sometimes, dehydration sometimes, and various foods? ?Also, how did you figure out what foods?What about keeping a food journal or doing what I've read referred to as an "elimination" chart? ?How do I do those?

If you are on any medications for headaches NO MATTER what you do as far as reducing triggers nothing will work. Under your doctor's supervision it is important to eliminate all medications. Because it is these medications that are causing the rebound to begin with.

Caprice made a good point of stress, sleep deprivation and dehydration. Before I begin listing dietary triggers I must inform you that all of them from the start must be eliminated.

If you are on any medications for headaches NO MATTER what you do as far as reducing triggers nothing will work. Under your doctor's supervision it is important to eliminate all medications. Because it is these medications that are causing the rebound to begin with.

Caprice made a good point of stress, sleep deprivation and dehydration. Before I begin listing dietary triggers I must inform you that all of them from the start must be eliminated.

Thank you very much for answering, Michael. Can I ask you what you use for a rule of thumb on how long you take pain meds for migraines? ?Mine bunch up and I never know if I'm just in a short group of them, or if it's morphing into a rebound migraine. ?Now that there is no pattern, so I never know if several in a row is going to be only a few or if they will turn into rebound headaches. ?Do you see my dilemma? ?When do you stop taking medication? ?Do you limit yourself to two Imitrex a month? ?Three? ?My doctor also encourages me to take something for pain, like ibuprofen. ?Do you take pain medication with Imitrex?

As of 2 days ago, I stopped all medications for headaches, even though my neurologist encouraged me to take them, saying that it was okay. (!) ?And I think it has stopped! I had only a mild non-migraine headache yesterday and NONE at all today! ?I hope I'm done with them for a while, at least.

About the triggers: ?the list you have offered - how do I go about this? ?Just go down the list, removing ?one of the foods from my diet and see what happens? ?Then if I still get migraines, add it back and eliminate the next one down?

Dehydration is one I am working on right now. ?I have no thirst these days and am not drinking NEARLY enough, ?and I am struggling with sleep. ?I also have some significant?stresses?in my life. ?Maybe some deep relaxation is a good idea. ?And exercise - I need to add that back. ?I had a walking friend who doesn't walk with me now but a new friend is wanting to do that, so good. ?Wow. ?Kind of a lot to tackle. ?At least there are lots of things I can do to try to decrease these awful headaches.

If you are out there and read this, or if someone else can answer these questions, it would be great. ?Thank you again, Michael and you, too, Caprice.

Taj?(Feels like an odd name but I couldn't think of anything, after normal names and versions of normal names weren't working. ?I've been to see the Taj Mahal, so I just chose it!)

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Report This| Share this:Questions: Triggers? Food diary? Does everyone even have a trigger?Thank you very much for answering, Michael. Can I ask you what you use for a rule of thumb on how long you take pain meds for migraines? ?Mine bunch up and I never know if I'm just in a short group of them, or if it's morphing into a rebound migraine. ?Now that there is no pattern, so I never know if several in a row is going to be only a few or if they will turn into rebound headaches. ?Do you see my dilemma? ?When do you stop taking medication? ?Do you limit yourself to two Imitrex a month? ?Three? ?My doctor also encourages me to take something for pain, like ibuprofen. ?Do you take pain medication with Imitrex?

As of 2 days ago, I stopped all medications for headaches, even though my neurologist encouraged me to take them, saying that it was okay. (!) ?And I think it has stopped! I had only a mild non-migraine headache yesterday and NONE at all today! ?I hope I'm done with them for a while, at least.

About the triggers: ?the list you have offered - how do I go about this? ?Just go down the list, removing ?one of the foods from my diet and see what happens? ?Then if I still get migraines, add it back and eliminate the next one down?

Dehydration is one I am working on right now. ?I have no thirst these days and am not drinking NEARLY enough, ?and I am struggling with sleep. ?I also have some significant?stresses?in my life. ?Maybe some deep relaxation is a good idea. ?And exercise - I need to add that back. ?I had a walking friend who doesn't walk with me now but a new friend is wanting to do that, so good. ?Wow. ?Kind of a lot to tackle. ?At least there are lots of things I can do to try to decrease these awful headaches.

If you are out there and read this, or if someone else can answer these questions, it would be great. ?Thank you again, Michael and you, too, Caprice.

Taj?(Feels like an odd name but I couldn't think of anything, after normal names and versions of normal names weren't working. ?I've been to see the Taj Mahal, so I just chose it!)

It doesn't have to be complicated. You can do it in a simple notebook or on your computer, listing all the items you eat each day. And noting off to the side if and when you get a migraine and how bad, and perhaps also listing how well you slept each night.

Do this every day for a couple of weeks and you may see a pattern.

If and when you do see a pattern (for example, if every time you have a diet soda), try eliminating one item per week from your diet to see if that makes a difference. Continue to journal everything you eat, your sleep, and if/when you get migraines.

Does that help?

(This is the same kind of thing that can be done for allergies or digestive symptoms. It can be very effective.)

It doesn't have to be complicated. You can do it in a simple notebook or on your computer, listing all the items you eat each day. And noting off to the side if and when you get a migraine and how bad, and perhaps also listing how well you slept each night.

Do this every day for a couple of weeks and you may see a pattern.

If and when you do see a pattern (for example, if every time you have a diet soda), try eliminating one item per week from your diet to see if that makes a difference. Continue to journal everything you eat, your sleep, and if/when you get migraines.

Does that help?

(This is the same kind of thing that can be done for allergies or digestive symptoms. It can be very effective.)

Thank you! ?So easy, why didn't I think of it! ?I'll begin logging food and sleep today. ?I read someone's post in which they said corn was the trigger for them and while it's not easy keeping corn out (corn syrup in prepared foods, etc.), at least she knows how to prevent ?her migraines. ?Boy would I love that! ?I'd give up chocolate if I had to!

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Report This| Share this:Questions: Triggers? Food diary? Does everyone even have a trigger?Thank you! ?So easy, why didn't I think of it! ?I'll begin logging food and sleep today. ?I read someone's post in which they said corn was the trigger for them and while it's not easy keeping corn out (corn syrup in prepared foods, etc.), at least she knows how to prevent ?her migraines. ?Boy would I love that! ?I'd give up chocolate if I had to!

The maximum for not getting rebounds is taking triptans and OTCs not more than 2 times a week, not a month. Please read about rebounds here , and get your facts straight before giving out advice. Doctors often tell patients to trade off with triptans and OTCs weekly so they can avoid rebound headaches and get pain relief. You do not have to live in pain and limit your med use to once a month - that is insane when people like me suffer from headaches (migraines and clusters included) chronically, sometimes multiple times a week. We could not function in society if we did not have medications we could take more than once or twice a month. Talk with your neurologist or a pain specialist and get the real facts please.

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Report This| Share this:Questions: Triggers? Food diary? Does everyone even have a trigger?The maximum for not getting rebounds is taking triptans and OTCs not more than 2 times a week, not a month. Please read about rebounds here , and get your facts straight before giving out advice. Doctors often tell patients to trade off with triptans and OTCs weekly so they can avoid rebound headaches and get pain relief. You do not have to live in pain and limit your med use to once a month - that is insane when people like me suffer from headaches (migraines and clusters included) chronically, sometimes multiple times a week. We could not function in society if we did not have medications we could take more than once or twice a month. Talk with your neurologist or a pain specialist and get the real facts please.

I understand your frustrations, but the reason why you are getting these migraines that growing in frequency and intensity is because of the medications you are taking. Please take a moment to understand this. The migraine control center which is located in the hypothalamus, is activated when you pass your "threshold level" through an accumulation of triggers (sleep, stress, water, medications, etc) When the migraine control center is activated, neuropeptides are released which lead to a swelling of the blood vessels in your head that are attached to your migraine control center. This swelling what you experience as pain. How quick fix medications work is by constricting the blood vessels. HOWEVER, your next headache comes back with a vengeance and swelling is worse than before. The best thing for you to do is to cut out these medications that cause rebound altogether - cold turkey. OR ELSE nothing you do will help, even preventative medicine. If you are wondering where I get my information, I'm a holistic health practitioner so I'm a continuous student of health & disease.

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Report This| Share this:Questions: Triggers? Food diary? Does everyone even have a trigger?I understand your frustrations, but the reason why you are getting these migraines that growing in frequency and intensity is because of the medications you are taking. Please take a moment to understand this. The migraine control center which is located in the hypothalamus, is activated when you pass your "threshold level" through an accumulation of triggers (sleep, stress, water, medications, etc) When the migraine control center is activated, neuropeptides are released which lead to a swelling of the blood vessels in your head that are attached to your migraine control center. This swelling what you experience as pain. How quick fix medications work is by constricting the blood vessels. HOWEVER, your next headache comes back with a vengeance and swelling is worse than before. The best thing for you to do is to cut out these medications that cause rebound altogether - cold turkey. OR ELSE nothing you do will help, even preventative medicine. If you are wondering where I get my information, I'm a holistic health practitioner so I'm a continuous student of health & disease.

I grew up with these; I have also gone without medication for extended periods of time, and I know what my headaches are like - they are chronic, and come daily. I use a holistic approach in my personal health care and when others ask for advice I recommend the same to them - but holistic means all encompassing; i.e. both medications and life changes/practices. You should not go towards one and talk about the other as if it is "evil" because without those medications I and billions of others could never have made it this far in life. Please do your research on rebound headaches and medications used to treat them - work with neurologists and pain specialists, not against them. You are doing more harm than good if you are telling people not to take medications that can help them. I will give you references where you can learn about guide lines for proper medication use.

Report This| Share this:Questions: Triggers? Food diary? Does everyone even have a trigger?I grew up with these; I have also gone without medication for extended periods of time, and I know what my headaches are like - they are chronic, and come daily. I use a holistic approach in my personal health care and when others ask for advice I recommend the same to them - but holistic means all encompassing; i.e. both medications and life changes/practices. You should not go towards one and talk about the other as if it is "evil" because without those medications I and billions of others could never have made it this far in life. Please do your research on rebound headaches and medications used to treat them - work with neurologists and pain specialists, not against them. You are doing more harm than good if you are telling people not to take medications that can help them. I will give you references where you can learn about guide lines for proper medication use.

Michael150: I haven't taken any medications at all for years because nothing works for me, and I sure would like to find one that will give me a "quick fix".

Preventatives don't cause rebound headaches, only abortives. Many people would not even be able to start their day without preventatives.And certainly initrex does not make people's migraines worse, and for them, it is a Godsend.

The rules on this forum are that we are not supposed to be endorsing any products or books,magazines. And I should add that just because the person who wrote the book wrote it, does not make him/her an expert. Anyone can publish a book thru vanity press.

Preventatives don't cause rebound headaches, only abortives. Many people would not even be able to start their day without preventatives.And certainly initrex does not make people's migraines worse, and for them, it is a Godsend.

The rules on this forum are that we are not supposed to be endorsing any products or books,magazines. And I should add that just because the person who wrote the book wrote it, does not make him/her an expert. Anyone can publish a book thru vanity press.

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