Burnley real ale micro pub bid trouble

PLANS for Burnley’s first micro pub have been unveiled – but has immediately run into difficulties with a potential neighbour.

Licensing bosses will this week decide whether James Mansfield is permitted to open the Beer Shack, a new real-ale emporium, in Manchester Road.

But solicitor Stuart Smith, who has offices above the would-be bar, has lodged strong objections to the venture, from the Nottinghamshire-based entrepreneur, who is also involved with a company called Medieval Beers. In a letter to the borough council, Mr Smith blasted the authority first for not officially notifying him of the licensing application.

And he added: “I have had a look at the website for Medieval Beers and it seems to me that this is a micro-brewery and I am extremely concerned that if planning approval is granted then the applicant may well wish to brew beer on the site.

“I note from my personal experience of visiting breweries that this will create a smell that will affect many properties in the vicinity.”

Mr Smith has also told councillors that he fears the disruption that he iscurrently experiencing from customers of the Big Window, opposite his premises, will only get worse if the micropub is given the go-ahead. Mr Mansfield is head brewer at Medieval Beers. And he is also the co-owner of a similar micropub, also known as the Beer Shack, in Hucknall, Notts.

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The brewer has already pledged not to have live or recorded music played within the premises after mediation talks with another neighbour, Frost and Co estate agents.

Three councillors will make a final ruling on Mr Mansfield’s licensing application at Burnley Town Hall.

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If it sells real beer or makes real beer then it should not only be given permission to open , but should be given a grant to do so. Now about smells. Can the council please do something about the curry houses making smells?

If it sells real beer or makes real beer then it should not only be given permission to open , but should be given a grant to do so.
Now about smells. Can the council please do something about the curry houses making smells?shytalk

If it sells real beer or makes real beer then it should not only be given permission to open , but should be given a grant to do so. Now about smells. Can the council please do something about the curry houses making smells?

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Real Ale Up North says...5:09pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Can I say at the outset, that I fully understand the initial fears of a pub below Mr Smith's premises. However, I would like to allay those fears. Firstly there will be no brewery on these premises. A micropub sells real ale, real cider and soft drinks. No spirits, no wine, no fizzy lager, no bottled beers and no food -including snacks. It is not a brewpub, like the Moonstone Brewery on Trafalgar Street. Secondly, it will in no way compare with the Big Window, across the road.The clientele will be totally different. No music, no gaming machines, no jukebox. The Micropub concept is based on real ale and conversation. More 'disruption' will just not materialise - trust me Mr. Smith- I am pretty clued up on beery matters - and I hope this post has changed your view.

Can I say at the outset, that I fully understand the initial fears of a pub below Mr Smith's premises. However, I would like to allay those fears. Firstly there will be no brewery on these premises. A micropub sells real ale, real cider and soft drinks. No spirits, no wine, no fizzy lager, no bottled beers and no food -including snacks. It is not a brewpub, like the Moonstone Brewery on Trafalgar Street.
Secondly, it will in no way compare with the Big Window, across the road.The clientele will be totally different. No music, no gaming machines, no jukebox. The Micropub concept is based on real ale and conversation. More 'disruption' will just not materialise - trust me Mr. Smith- I am pretty clued up on beery matters - and I hope this post has changed your view.Real Ale Up North

Can I say at the outset, that I fully understand the initial fears of a pub below Mr Smith's premises. However, I would like to allay those fears. Firstly there will be no brewery on these premises. A micropub sells real ale, real cider and soft drinks. No spirits, no wine, no fizzy lager, no bottled beers and no food -including snacks. It is not a brewpub, like the Moonstone Brewery on Trafalgar Street. Secondly, it will in no way compare with the Big Window, across the road.The clientele will be totally different. No music, no gaming machines, no jukebox. The Micropub concept is based on real ale and conversation. More 'disruption' will just not materialise - trust me Mr. Smith- I am pretty clued up on beery matters - and I hope this post has changed your view.

Score: 29

Real Ale Up North says...5:20pm Thu 23 Jan 14

The licence has been granted this afternoon. The owner has posted the decision on twitter. This micropub will be good news for the town - in my opinion. This is the first one in the area. And I am sure this new concept in drinking dens will be well received by its patrons. I will no doubt review the pub in the Lancashire Telegraph, in the coming months - if everything goes to plan. I wish it every success.

The licence has been granted this afternoon. The owner has posted the decision on twitter. This micropub will be good news for the town - in my opinion. This is the first one in the area. And I am sure this new concept in drinking dens will be well received by its patrons. I will no doubt review the pub in the Lancashire Telegraph, in the coming months - if everything goes to plan. I wish it every success.Real Ale Up North

The licence has been granted this afternoon. The owner has posted the decision on twitter. This micropub will be good news for the town - in my opinion. This is the first one in the area. And I am sure this new concept in drinking dens will be well received by its patrons. I will no doubt review the pub in the Lancashire Telegraph, in the coming months - if everything goes to plan. I wish it every success.

Score: 24

shytalk says...5:25pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Real Ale Up North wrote…

The licence has been granted this afternoon. The owner has posted the decision on twitter. This micropub will be good news for the town - in my opinion. This is the first one in the area. And I am sure this new concept in drinking dens will be well received by its patrons. I will no doubt review the pub in the Lancashire Telegraph, in the coming months - if everything goes to plan. I wish it every success.

As we all do. Good luck guys

[quote][p][bold]Real Ale Up North[/bold] wrote:
The licence has been granted this afternoon. The owner has posted the decision on twitter. This micropub will be good news for the town - in my opinion. This is the first one in the area. And I am sure this new concept in drinking dens will be well received by its patrons. I will no doubt review the pub in the Lancashire Telegraph, in the coming months - if everything goes to plan. I wish it every success.[/p][/quote]As we all do. Good luck guysshytalk

Real Ale Up North wrote…

The licence has been granted this afternoon. The owner has posted the decision on twitter. This micropub will be good news for the town - in my opinion. This is the first one in the area. And I am sure this new concept in drinking dens will be well received by its patrons. I will no doubt review the pub in the Lancashire Telegraph, in the coming months - if everything goes to plan. I wish it every success.

As we all do. Good luck guys

Score: 20

golazzo says...5:36pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Well done to the micro brewery. Never mind Mr Smith. Pity your not clued up on law to say your a solicitor What grounds were you objecting to

Well done to the micro brewery. Never mind Mr Smith. Pity your not clued up on law to say your a solicitor
What grounds were you objecting togolazzo

Well done to the micro brewery. Never mind Mr Smith. Pity your not clued up on law to say your a solicitor What grounds were you objecting to

Score: 12

midas says...9:17am Fri 24 Jan 14

Whether its a different clientel to the Big Window will be very much dependent on the price of the beer!

Whether its a different clientel to the Big Window will be very much dependent on the price of the beer!midas

Whether its a different clientel to the Big Window will be very much dependent on the price of the beer!

Score: 1

Real Ale Up North says...12:40pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Midas, the price will be competitive - similar to town centre ale houses. Price will be dependant on strength - which is fair enough - and all beers will be under three quid. :-)

Midas, the price will be competitive - similar to town centre ale houses. Price will be dependant on strength - which is fair enough - and all beers will be under three quid. :-)Real Ale Up North

Midas, the price will be competitive - similar to town centre ale houses. Price will be dependant on strength - which is fair enough - and all beers will be under three quid. :-)

Score: 4

Nottokeenonthesmellofvaseline says...2:59pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Really looking forward to this opening. As a real ale fan I'll definetly be there

Really looking forward to this opening. As a real ale fan I'll definetly be thereNottokeenonthesmellofvaseline

Really looking forward to this opening. As a real ale fan I'll definetly be there

Score: 6

Not_at_towneley says...11:40am Sat 25 Jan 14

Sounds great. There's a real market for this kind of pub, instead of the 'happy hour' cattle market bars. I think it would be unlikely to cause trouble with noise or anti social behaviour. Mr Smith could pop in for a nice relaxing pint. Bring it on please!

Sounds great. There's a real market for this kind of pub, instead of the 'happy hour' cattle market bars. I think it would be unlikely to cause trouble with noise or anti social behaviour.
Mr Smith could pop in for a nice relaxing pint.
Bring it on please!Not_at_towneley

Sounds great. There's a real market for this kind of pub, instead of the 'happy hour' cattle market bars. I think it would be unlikely to cause trouble with noise or anti social behaviour. Mr Smith could pop in for a nice relaxing pint. Bring it on please!

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