Hypergrid Adventurers Club meet #36+37: Visiting Help Island on ReactionGrid

It contains resources for new avatars including a freebie area, a Gallery of Prims for new builders, and Hypergates to various places to explore.

For today’s two meetings we visited Tinsel’s region and had a great discussion about best practices for helping new users in virtual worlds.

Do you know of other Help Islands or New User Orientation areas on Opensim-based grids? If so, please let us know about them in the blog comments. I would love to put together a list of all of them to help new Opensim users, and then link to the list from our Hypergrid Adventurers Club homepage.

Eraldo Carlucci: Hi PathJeff Kelley: Hi PathfinderPathfinder Lester: heya!Pathfinder Lester: how are you folks doing today?Eraldo Carlucci: Good and you?Jeff Kelley: Fine thanks, and you Path ?Pathfinder Lester: pretty good 🙂 snow is actually melting a bit here on Boston todayEraldo Carlucci: The sand isn’t melting here in PhoenixBau Ur: Hell. How strange. I seem utterly unable to sit.Pathfinder Lester: Bau that sometimes happens to meBau Ur: How do I tell whether my lag is due to the viewer and whether it is due to the server of whatever location we are at?Pathfinder Lester: randomly on many different gridsPathfinder Lester: i find i have to relog to fix that bugGraham Mills: I love the free psychedelic t-shirtsBau Ur: And has anyone been constantly trying out all the viewers? Is there any folkloric wisdom about which one is least laggy at present?Graham Mills: even if they are a bit see-throughPathfinder Lester: lolBau Ur: wearing a tied dyed shirt until it’s a mass ofholes is solid hippy tradition.Pathfinder Lester: oooohPathfinder Lester: i know what’s wrong with the chairs!Bau Ur: And a good Ecotopican ethic, too 🙂Ange Menges: hi to all I have a lot of lagBau Ur: Hello Ange, good to see you.Ange Menges: and things works strangeOronoque Westland:hello everyonePathfinder Lester: i had to reset the scriptsPathfinder Lester: that’s allPathfinder Lester: when Jokay moved Pathlandia to it’s own Opensim console, i discovered that I had to reset all the scripts on the region to get them to workOronoque Westland:Ange, thanks for setting out the SLoodle box

SLOODLE is a free and open source project which integrates Second Life with the Moodle learning-management system. It also works with Opensim.

Ange Menges: 🙂Bau Ur: Thank you , yes, Ange!Pathfinder Lester: Ange, you set up Sloodle somewhere?Oronoque Westland:I am glad that in oving you, you still appear in the same spot (i.e. as my neighbor)Pathfinder Lester: oooh i see the box nowAnge Menges: YesPathfinder Lester: thank you for putting that out!Ange Menges: It worksVanish Seriath: Hi everyone.Bau Ur: hmm I seem unable to take a copy or to buy SLoodleAnge Menges: I am testing on francogridAnge Menges: it’s a giver, clickOronoque Westland:Bau, just left click the boxAnge Menges: Oro gave me a lot of work 🙂 I discorevered the existence of moodle at our meeting on reaction grid, lolPathfinder Lester: oh wait, the box eventually gave me a folder of stuffBau Ur: Perhaps it is that old 2006 bug in which a copiable object ceases to be givable by touch after one copy of it is given.Bau Ur: Hello Graham.Vanish Seriath: Hm, don’t know if SL bugs reappear in OpenSim.Graham Mills: lolGraham Mills: I seem to be a little unstable this eveningBau Ur: Wasn’t OpenSIm based on a certain amount of code obtained from SL?Vanish Seriath: No.Vanish Seriath: It was reverse-engineered.Vanish Seriath: There’s no LL code in it.Oronoque Westland:when you use SLoodle, if email is not activated on your grid just remember to comment out (or un-run) the email script in the SLoodle objectsEraldo Carlucci: There are drugs for that GrahamPathfinder Lester: yep. it was written based on sniffing the network traffic between the SL viewer and the servers.Pathfinder Lester: which is kind of amazing, if you think about it.Pathfinder Lester: it’s like coming up with all the rules of a language simply by listening to two people speak it to each other.El Sliven: Hi guys!Jeff Kelley: Hi ElEraldo Carlucci: Hi ElBau Ur: THe physics engine, avatar meshes, and landscape visualization were all “off the shelf” though, weren’t they? LL didn’t design them originally, just put them together?Pathfinder Lester: i’ll make my standard intro remarks now for the chatlog.Marmottina Taurog: Hi !Pathfinder Lester: Welcome to the Hypergrid Adventurers Club! Thank you all for joining us today.Oronoque Westland:Path, now that we have groups on JokaydiaGrid, we need to have a HGAC groupAnge Menges: Graham how you succeed to sit on marmottina ?Pathfinder Lester: The first 30 min of each meeting is spent on introductions and an open discussion.Vanish Seriath: Yes, but OpenSim uses different engines mostly.Pathfinder Lester: And for the second 30 min of each meeting, we will make some Hypergrid jumps to visit and explore an interesting location on the Hypergrid.Pathfinder Lester: To start, if you wish, feel free to jump in and say a few words about yourself and your projects/interests in open chat. This is always a good opportunity for networking. 🙂Pathfinder Lester: I post a full report and transcript of each meeting’s open chat on my blog, so this is also a chance for you to share information with everyone who reads the blog.Pathfinder Lester: And if you say anything in open chat that you would NOT like to be posted on my blog, please just say so in chat and I will redact your comments.Pathfinder Lester: I’m Pathfinder Lester, John Lester in real life. I used to work at Linden Lab from 2005-2010. Now I work at ReactionGrid Inc. as Director of Community Development. I started the Hypergrid Adventurers Club back in October of 2010. My blog is at http://becunningandfulloftricks.comPathfinder Lester: Oro, groups are enabled now on jokaydiaGRID?Marmottina Taurog: Graham your av seems to be sitting on my head ! LOL !Vanish Seriath: I’m V of tgib.co.uk. My blog is there, too.Graham Mills: apologies — I can’t see your avie (well, that’s my excuse)Marmottina Taurog: hahaha npGraham Mills: I shall standOronoque Westland:I teach at Hunter College in New York City… Path, now that we have groups on JokaydiaGrid, we need to have a HGAC groupPathfinder Lester: oh wow. groups are working!Marmottina Taurog: I must be invisibleEl Sliven: I am El Firecaster/Sliven….the other “Half” of TGIB…and V’s proud partner…..and I jus wanna b qt!…:) (I have wanted to say that every since we started intros… and now I have a Tshirt to say it for me!)Pathfinder Lester: everyone, try joining the group I just made. “The Hypergrid Adventurers Club”Ange Menges: I am Ange from Francogrid. Just putted on my blog how to install moodle and sloodleGraham Mills: ty AngeAnge Menges: Just for Pathfinder because it’s in french 🙂Pathfinder Lester: Ange, oh that’s greatAnge Menges: lagMarmottina Taurog: I am an artist designer and musician, I make plants for my garden Centre Green and Wild in both SL and Inworldz, I also have a sim here on Jokaydiagrid under constructionGraham Mills: I am a microbiology teacher from Liverpool, mainly on NWGPathfinder Lester: Groups are not hypergrid enabled. which means you wont see the group when you travel to other grids. BUT…whenever you are on jokaydiaGRID, the group will activate for you.Mel Blauvelt: I’m a philosopher, skeptic, enfant terrible with a keen interest in artsOronoque Westland:and despite all of that Mel is with us todayPathfinder Lester: lolMel Blauvelt: 🙂Pathfinder Lester: Ange, do you have a link to your blog post about setting up sloodle?Bau Ur: I am a currently unemployed high school teacher in the USA. I have taught mostly chemistry, biology, and environmental science but also poetry, logid and rhetoric, and art. I have a special interest in the needs of biology teachers facing opposition to the rational teaching of evolution. I also have a special concern for the needs of queer and genderqueer youth in public schools.Ange Menges:http://angefg.wordpress.comPathfinder Lester: yeah, we’ve gota little chat lag. seems to be settling down, thoMarmottina Taurog: Bau that’s great stuff you’re interested in. I don’t know how people can ignore evolutionary theory…Oronoque Westland:Bau, may I ask, did you hypergrid here from Reaction Grid?Bau Ur: Yes, Oronoque, using the code Pathfinder posted on Twitter.Bau Ur: That’s why I look a bit pale 🙂 My skin in this incarnation is different.Pathfinder Lester: there was a recent article in Wired about how evolution is still struggling in public schools in the US. hard to believe. http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/01/scopes-weeps/Marmottina Taurog: Yes I agree I must read that article…thank goodness we don’t have that in the UKBau Ur: The subject always puts me in danger of ranting, I’m agraid 🙂 Please “friend” me, anyone who would like to discuss it some time .Pathfinder Lester: Bau, lolOronoque Westland:I ask because you and I are using IM and you also received the SLoodle object I sent you…I was under the impression that the IM would not work if we were logged in to two different grids…but apparently it works if we are on the same grid at the momentBau Ur: Ah good observation Oronoque!!!Vanish Seriath: IM works if you’re on the same region.Bau Ur: Cool. Glad you thought to check that.Oronoque Westland:good to knowVanish Seriath: It also works *sometimes* if you’re both from the same grid and hypergridding.Pathfinder Lester: i have a couple quick announcements. first of all, you’ll all notice a second stone wall next to the HGAC kiosk.Graham Mills: cue everyone trying to IM Oro…Pathfinder Lester: i set that up as a message board area. in case folks want to rez little flyers about things

Pathfinder Lester: i figured i’d give folks more room to do that. 🙂Oronoque Westland:I will be very blunt and say that I think the difficulty with accepting evolution in this country (that is the US), is the difficulty in accepting that we have common ancestors regardless of “race”Marmottina Taurog: cool !Vanish Seriath: Aw, heh.Pathfinder Lester: so feel free to rez a flyer there if you wishVanish Seriath: I forgot to take mine down.Pathfinder Lester: no worries VVanish Seriath: It auto-refreshes.Ange Menges: Path, I don’t gave you any news for the hospital project because we have a machinima festival in europe and a team of francogrid is there. I wait they come back all to see how to manage a HGAC travelMarmottina Taurog: Cool to what Path said BTW !Pathfinder Lester: Ange, ok. no problem. thanks.Marmottina Taurog: Not Oro’s statementGraham Mills: inflammatory chatlaf ftwGraham Mills: (sorry, not really a laughing matter)Pathfinder Lester: hmm…that’s actually all I had to announce. 😛 anyone else have anything they’d like to share with the group?Marmottina Taurog: Hard to get appropriate answer in the right place ! 🙂Vanish Seriath: El wants to state she’s got purple boots.Bau Ur: I’d like to ask if anyone here regularly tries out the updated versions of all available viewers, and if so which one seems least laggy or more reliable.Pathfinder Lester: good question Bau. I’ve only been using the stable release of Imprudence these days.Graham Mills: brbVanish Seriath: I irregularly try other viewers, Bau.Oronoque Westland:I missed a couple of meetings…did we decide on a continuity plan in case of crash?Bau Ur: Also how do I tell whether problems are due to viewer or due to server? I never know what to curse 🙂Vanish Seriath: Bau, imho Imprudence works best with OpenSim.Marmottina Taurog: I’m using experimental version of imprudence seems to work fine most placesPathfinder Lester: Oro, i dropped the ball on putting together an official plan on the HGAC homepage. my bad. I’ll continue the conversation that others started in the HGAC Google Group this week.Oronoque Westland:In Imprudence under the Help menu there is Lag MeterPathfinder Lester: our HGAC Google Group has 128 subscribers now. not bad!Vanish Seriath: But it depends on several things: your OS, the grid you’re on, your hardware, etc.Eraldo Carlucci: I’ve been using Hippo for OS Is Imprudence better?Oronoque Westland:It gives an indication of the health of the Client, Network and ServerPathfinder Lester: Eraldo, i dunno. i think it depends on each individual. personally, i just like Imprudence and find it pretty stable.Bau Ur: Thanks!Eraldo Carlucci: ThanksMel Blauvelt: There’s also an IRC channel: #hgac on freenodeMel Blauvelt: quite useful in case of a crash or disconnectBau Ur: I thought our default was the meeting area at Core One.Pathfinder Lester: Bau, so far, yes. But I’ll write up an “official” plan on the HGAC homepage and then make sure we’re all on the same page.Bau Ur: the same homepage.Bau Ur: Cool.Pathfinder Lester: a plan with many contingencies. “If pathlandia is down, go here. If jokaydiagrid is down, go here. If the entire hypergrid is down, go eat a sandwich.”Bau Ur: laughsEraldo Carlucci: lolPathfinder Lester: let me pass out today’s notecard now

— Contents of Notecard —
Before doing any Hypergrid jumps, be sure you have set your Home location and have relogged since you set it. If you don’t, Hypergrid jumps will not work. This appears to be a bug.

Many people find the Imprudence viewer to be very good for using with both SL and other grids. You can find it here: http://imprudenceviewer.org/

*** How to make Manual Hypergrid Jumps in 4 easy steps ***
1) Open your World Map.
2) In the text box next to the Search button, enter the Hypergrid Address.
3) Click the Search button and wait for the map to move to the jump region.
4) Click the Teleport button.

We’ll be making this jump using one of the instant Hypergates on Pathlandia. It’s the stone behind the wagon full of apples. Just walk up to the archway and walk through it. You will automatically make a Hypergrid jump to “Help Island.”

“Help Island” on ReactionGrid is being developed by Tinsel Silvera (http://twitter.com/#!/Tinsel_Silvera). It contains helpful resources for new avatars, including a freebie area, a Gallery of Prims for new builders, and HyperGates to various regions.

Do you know of other Help Islands or New User Orientation areas on other grids? Please let me know about them. I’m working to put together a list of them all which I will then publish. Thank you.

***
jokaydiaGRID has a Newbie Dome for folks to pick up freebies that can help them get started. If you find any good freebies in your Hypergrid travels that you’d like to share, you can put them in the Newbie Dome. There’s currently a lack of many good outfits and items for male avatars, so it would be great if we could find more items like that to share.— End of Notecard —

Bau Ur: The caveats about hypergrid jumps and setting Home do not apply now?Pathfinder Lester: so for today, we’ll be making a single jump to “Help Island” on ReactionGridPathfinder Lester: i got the idea from V’s work on his own orientation region.Pathfinder Lester: i thought we could have a series of tours where we find and explore orientation and help regions on different grids.Marmottina Taurog: I think a help island guidebook is a great ideaPathfinder Lester: that way, we can learn the different ways folks are helping orient new users.Bau Ur: Great idea! Then we know where to send newcomers!Vanish Seriath: Aw, yes.Pathfinder Lester: and then I’ll put together a page with addresses of all of them and a description of each.Eraldo Carlucci: That’s a super ideaBau Ur: Yep.Pathfinder Lester: “Help on the Hypergrid”Pathfinder Lester: lolGraham Mills: meta-helpPathfinder Lester: preciselyBau Ur: “The HelperGrid”Pathfinder Lester: so if anyone knows of good locations on the hypergrid for help, please post them in the HGAC Google GroupPathfinder Lester: also, if you know good webpages for tutorial stuff, pls post those too. i want to include web resources as well.Bau Ur: Now you are asking for hype on the helper grid…..Pathfinder Lester: Bau, lolMarmottina Taurog: hahahaPathfinder Lester: anyone have any other announcements or topics to bring up before we head out?Oronoque Westland:pls include info on irc on your siteBau Ur: and define all your terms 🙂 for poor botanists who don’t even know what IRC is.Pathfinder Lester: hmmMarmottina Taurog: yes for me too !Pathfinder Lester: i have a link on the HGAC Homepage to this article I wrote: https://becunningandfulloftricks.com/2010/12/13/hypergrid-adventurers-club-on-irc/Graham Mills: i vaguely recall you had a web client for the irc?Pathfinder Lester: do you think i need to expand on it? or is it good enough as is?Vanish Seriath: I wrote some tutorial on IRC here: http://tgib.co.uk/2011/01/18/how-to-use-irc-for-opensim/Bau Ur: Wow Vanish you’re johnny=on=the-spot. THanks.Marmottina Taurog: what is IRC though ? in words with only one syllable please ! 😉Pathfinder Lester: V, oh that’s right. I’ll add a link to that on my article as well.Pathfinder Lester: Internet Relay ChatAnge Menges: It’s ok path, i just have gone to your site, read, and I am connectedOronoque Westland:pls expandPathfinder Lester: Oro, okPathfinder Lester: i’ll work on that 🙂Pathfinder Lester: okie doke. let’s head over to Help Island!Bau Ur: Thanks. Cool.Pathfinder Lester: just a single hop. walking thru this gate.Mel Blauvelt: IRC = like group chat, but independent of the viewerMarmottina Taurog: I see

Graham Mills: I kept arriving in the middle of the tree and hitting one or other of the gates and tping out againEl Sliven: me too Graham!Vanish Seriath: Avatars are lagging hard in and of themselves.Vanish Seriath: It’s really not mysterious to me. Many agents teleporting in at the same time are stressful to a server.is so silly.El Sliven: Was not a very well thought out design I think…:/Pathfinder Lester: El, what design do you mean?El Sliven: all the hypergates in a circle like that..El Sliven: I just kept tping in and outVanish Seriath: Hm, did it?El Sliven: and could not get out of it.Vanish Seriath: I think we were a bit more.Pathfinder Lester: yeah, i think it might be better if they were in a room somewhere. lined upOronoque Westland:yes, a minefield of gatesPathfinder Lester: you can bounce between those like a pinball!

El Sliven: Finally double clicked hurriedly and made it out of them.Pathfinder Lester: hypergrid pinballEl Sliven: yes…that is kinda what it felt like!Pathfinder Lester: and too much bouncing, and the region goes TILTGraham Mills: I flew up to evade the tree obscuring my viewBau Ur: Yes I do think it would be nice if everyone would arrive in such a way that the Orientation sign is clear. It is bewildering for a newbie to try to figure out where they are and where their objective is.Ange.Menges: Path it’s not easy to quit the circle of gates. You should put something saying “fly” 🙂Pathfinder Lester: i’ll give Tinsel that feedback.Pathfinder Lester: Bau, yesPathfinder Lester: a good starting point is keyPathfinder Lester: i think we should have all new accounts on RG arriving here

Bau Ur: It’s nice that the orientation plaza is labelled, but could use a bigger sign lower down I think.Vanish Seriath: Sadly, the starting point will usually be at 128,128Pathfinder Lester: or, at the very least, a big sign on Core1 that lets them jump here from the start.Oronoque Westland:since one knows it will be at 128, 128 then the design can take that into accountPathfinder Lester: good point OroGraham Mills: Just don’t stick a tree at 128,128 😉Oronoque Westland:or another gate heeheeBau Ur: The Looking and Appearance tutorial boards over there seem unconnected from anything. I like the design of the Orientation plaza with everything in a deliberate order.Pathfinder Lester: i like how Tinsel has added little areas to explore here. There’s a grotto surrounded by mountains with a little cabin and sailboat to find.

Jeff Kelley: Or put more space between gatesGraham Mills: The boards seem familiar — are they from VCE?Graham Mills: Oh no, I’m wrongOronoque Westland:the buildings are VCE or ZebraOronoque Westland:some, anywayBau Ur: VCE?Pathfinder Lester: i’m sure Tinsel will appreciate everyone’s feedback on this. good design involves plenty of ongoing redesign. 😉Graham Mills: ok, it’s possible thenBau Ur: Zebra?Oronoque Westland:the Zebra presenter folkPathfinder Lester: one design technique I like for orentation experiences is a clear pathway to followBau Ur: I sure miss being able to use long draw distance. GOod thing this area isn’t too large or a newbie on low graphics settings would be extra confused.Graham Mills: Metavserse company run by Nick Wilson — they had a host of freebie builds — seem to have merged with VCE (Virtual Collaborative Environment) which, I think, is run by Austin Tait from Univ EdinburghPathfinder Lester: go here first…then go here. guide people along on a journey. many folks get overwhelmed with multiple possibilities presented too early, in my experience.Vanish Seriath: True, Path.Bau Ur: I agree Pathfinder.Oronoque Westland:Zebra Presenter was developed originally as open source, from what I understand…had a presentation screen and the controller was uilt into a laptopVanish Seriath: A linear course is best for that.Pathfinder Lester: maybe start folks in a very simple area with only one path to follow aat the beginning.Bau Ur: SOme very aggressively exploratory people, first adapter sorts, tend to overlook that.Pathfinder Lester: Bau, yes, that’s the downside of that style of design.Pathfinder Lester: the original Help Island design in SL was very linearBau Ur: And create multiple opportunities to explore , without an “articulated curriculum” of skillbuilding.Pathfinder Lester: i used to hang out and monitor it. i’d often see people appear at the beginning and just fly off into the horizon. 😛Oronoque Westland:Bau, what is “articulated curriculum” please?Bau Ur: 🙂Eraldo Carlucci: Sorry folks, but i have to go……see you next weekPathfinder Lester: take care EraldoPathfinder Lester: good to see you todayOronoque Westland:bye Eraldo…see you soonBau Ur: Goodbye Eraldo.Vanish Seriath: When I used to be a mentor in SL, many people were so overwhelmed, they couldn’t even find the exit out of help island.Ange.Menges: I have to leave too. See you next time 🙂Bau Ur: Yes.Vanish Seriath: See you Ange.Graham Mills: Bye Ange 🙂Mel Blauvelt: bye AngeOronoque Westland:au revoir AngeBau Ur: Ah! Bye ANge Hope to visit your hospital kids soon.Oronoque Westland:Bau, what is “articulated curriculum” please?Graham Mills: Having water is an issue tooGraham Mills: New avatars inevitably fall in and panicVanish Seriath: Right.Bau Ur: A curriculum that is designed very deliberately so that each leson enables you to understand the nextGraham Mills: well, i do 😛Oronoque Westland:my favorite SL orientation is the one at Virtual AbilityPathfinder Lester: yeah, the water is deep!Mel Blauvelt: bridges are too, they’re usually the place where people start to TP to other placesPathfinder Lester: i just took a dipBau Ur: or each course is a sufficient prerequisite for the next.Pathfinder Lester: that can be fixed by rezzing an invisible prim over the top of the waterPathfinder Lester: make it solid so you can’t go under the waterBau Ur: Virtual Ability is goodVanish Seriath: Hi grid jumperPathfinder Lester: greeting grid jumper. what brings you here today?Oronoque Westland:I believe that one is in keeping with your suggestion Bau…the one on Virtual Ability IslandGraham Mills: actually, it’s useful to know that avies don’t drown and can flyGraham Mills: so maybe a calculated dip 😉Bau Ur: Heheh, yeah, need protectios for people who are just learning to use the movement controls. Also , need instruction on movement and camera controls the very first thing!!Mel Blauvelt: good point GrahamBau Ur: protectionsBau Ur: Well then maybe a stairway that goes down underwater then takes you up out the other sideMel Blauvelt: since a lot of people will probably come from games where one can drown/dieBau Ur: and some lovely aquatic things to look at down there on the wayGraham Mills: with fish 🙂Graham Mills: yesBau Ur: and cephalapodsGraham Mills: not everyone likes cephalopodsGraham Mills: or piranhaJeff Kelley: giant squids ?Bau Ur: all sensible people like cephalapodsPathfinder Lester: lolPathfinder Lester: cephalopods are very very smartPathfinder Lester: supposedly smarter than dogsJeff Kelley: Paul le Poulpe was a nice guyPathfinder Lester: so it is in our best interest to befriend them whenever possible.Graham Mills: true — good at solving mazesBau Ur: and predicting soccer matchesPathfinder Lester: lolGraham Mills: apparentlyPathfinder Lester: i remember that!Pathfinder Lester: the World Cup Octopus!Pathfinder Lester:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/24/world-cup-octopus-pauls-p_n_624597.htmlJeff Kelley: Ya 🙂Graham Mills: now sadly deceasedPathfinder Lester: oh no!Pathfinder Lester: i didn’t know thatVanish Seriath: Say, are there many newbies at RG that haven’t been to SL before?Graham Mills: sorry, bit of a shock for youPathfinder Lester: lolPathfinder Lester: V, good question.Bau Ur: I suppose there are not, now, but it’s good to plan .Pathfinder Lester: based on my own experience, i’d say very few do not have SL experience.Bau Ur: If people bring groups of students here, they must be oriented de novo.Pathfinder Lester: but there are indeed some. maybe like 5% in my experience.Pathfinder Lester: Bau,very trueVanish Seriath: Hm, okay.Pathfinder Lester: most of the complete newbies here are students being brought in for classes.Bau Ur: If people bring their bosses or workmates here to show them the potential, again, they will be true newbies, and perhaps without much time, patience, or sense of play.Oronoque Westland:yes, now with more educators on the grids, the students would be true noobsPathfinder Lester: and given that more and more educators are now joining RG, that % will probably grow. many more students.Pathfinder Lester: heya Kateri!Pathfinder Lester: what brings you here today?Graham Mills: I guess this assumes also that you’re using a version 1 clientOronoque Westland:we are all saying the same thing…trily great mindsVanish Seriath: hi Kateri

Bau Ur: Hello Kateri. You are runningbear, but I see clothing.Mel Blauvelt: Bau!Pathfinder Lester: Graham, what do you mean?Kateri Runningbear: Hi there….Kateri Runningbear: I hope you see clothingGraham Mills: Not viewer 2Graham Mills: The signs are designed for Viewer 1Pathfinder Lester: Kateri, i see your clothes just fineEl Sliven: Perhaps you should rebake kateri?Oronoque Westland:relatively new students in SL would be familiar with viewer 2, not 1Pathfinder Lester: Graham, ooooh that’s right.Bau Ur: Kateri, we are a club organized by Pathfinder here, to visit different places on the Hypergrid.Graham Mills: I think a lot of SL orientations have gone to viewer 2Pathfinder Lester: well, the percentage of folks using viewer 2 on opensim in general is very small, in my experienec.grid jumper: how cani join the group i just saw the notice on twittergrid jumper: and had a hard time getting hereBau Ur: Ah! I wish we could just import Orientation Station here. THat was a damn good setup.El Sliven: There we go Kateri! I see your clothes now! Cute!Pathfinder Lester: grid jumper, the Hypergrid Adventurers Club group?Graham Mills: true though it is necessary at the moment for prim mediaOronoque Westland:so one year old SL folk would be like first timers using an OS-compatible viewerVanish Seriath: grid jumper, just come to the meetings.Bau Ur: Dirk Talamasca was involved, and some other very experienced mentors.Vanish Seriath: There’s no formal joining process.grid jumper: okPathfinder Lester: grid, yes, just come to the meetingsgrid jumper: so i guess you post on twitterPathfinder Lester: and join our Google Group if you wantto chat with usgrid jumper: or they r always at this timeVanish Seriath: They’re always at this time.Pathfinder Lester:http://bit.ly/HGAC_Google_GroupPathfinder Lester: yes, we use the #hgac hashtag on twitter to announce things and just chat with each other on twitter.Bau Ur:https://becunningandfulloftricks.com/hypergrid-adventurers-club/Pathfinder Lester: ty Baugrid jumper: kPathfinder Lester: grid, that link Bau posted is our homepagePathfinder Lester: summary of what we do with the club 🙂grid jumper: wonderfulPathfinder Lester: but definitely join the Google Group. that’s a great way to see previous conversations and chat with folks. we have about 130 ppl in our Google Group.Jeff Kelley: wowPathfinder Lester: Jeff, yeah, it’s grown a lot since we set it up just a few weeks ago.Pathfinder Lester: really greatgrid jumper: well the whole gridjumpong thing had meBau Ur: Kateri, I used to live on a Native AMerican reservation in the USA. My partner was a basketball and cross country running coach. One of the best runners’ last name was “No Runner” 🙂grid jumper: mean i did it once before wiht this groupgrid jumper: but it was conusinggrid jumper: and i was a little lost in limboPathfinder Lester: well, i’m glad you found us grid. 🙂Vanish Seriath: Hehe.Bau Ur: and another was “Two Legs”Pathfinder Lester: we do our best to help each other learnPathfinder Lester: we’re all learning here.Pathfinder Lester: Bau, lolKateri Runningbear: 🙂grid jumper: i just wrote about learning communities in VW – i should have waited to include this group i guess i could editBau Ur: Heheh Grid…just wait a bit and devote a whole article to us 🙂Pathfinder Lester: grid, oh cool! did you blog about it?grid jumper:http://gridjumper.net/Pathfinder Lester: nice!Pathfinder Lester: oh, i see you already visited jokaydiaGRID and got a tour with jokayPathfinder Lester:http://gridjumper.net/2010/12/04/grid-hopping-one-av-multiple-grids/grid jumper: yesPathfinder Lester: so you’ve already been to Pathlandia 🙂grid jumper: but i could not get back todayPathfinder Lester: that’s where we have our meetingsgrid jumper: lost the coordinates on my viewerPathfinder Lester: ahagrid jumper: so ur info is helpfulgrid jumper: step by stepBau Ur: Grid, they changed yesterdayPathfinder Lester: that’s probably because Pathlandia recently moved to a new consolegrid jumper: ahPathfinder Lester: the new hypergrid address of Pathlandia is: 66.240.241.42:9004:PathlandiaBau Ur: 66.240.241.42:9004:PathlandiaPathfinder Lester: Bau, you are inside my head!Pathfinder Lester: lolBau Ur: 🙂 You are in conversation so I supposed it was more difficult for you to copy and paste.Pathfinder Lester: grid, i’m happy you are finding the info we put out helpful. 🙂Pathfinder Lester: thanks Bau. 🙂Graham Mills: One of attamepts to get back here also showed up the old help island and said it no longer existedPathfinder Lester: one thing that can help with things like that is to be sure you clear your viewer’s cache at least once a dayPathfinder Lester: sometimes it caches map stuff that becomes out of date.Pathfinder Lester: at least that’s what seems to happen to mePathfinder Lester: i have a routine now. reboot windows at least once a day. and clear my viewer cache once a day.Vanish Seriath: I think it was because the region was down a moment.Pathfinder Lester: keeps everything stable for me. 😉Mel Blauvelt: I used to have that problem too but now it’s settled…haven’t cleared my cache in weeksJeff Kelley: omg, rebooting every one day 🙂Mel Blauvelt: no idea which setting I changed thoughGraham Mills: could be, vanish — i forgot that — except it said that it no longer existedVanish Seriath: I need to clear cache every time I go to pathlandia, or the ground textures will kick my butt.Graham Mills: which is a bit more radical than usualPathfinder Lester: Jeff, i bang on my system a lot and run lots of experimental stuff. so I need to do that.Bau Ur: When I try to go to Core One it often tells me that it does not exist. But if I try then to TP to CHilbo or some other region that is offlimits or offline, it instantly diverst me to Core One.Bau Ur: THings are so arbitrary 🙂Pathfinder Lester: holes in the hypergridPathfinder Lester: it happensGraham Mills: part of its charmKateri Runningbear: ggremlins in the hypergridPathfinder Lester: it wouldn’t be a frontier without some unexpected journeys. lolJeff Kelley: Soon, we will need to address the question of direction directories and gateways assignementJeff Kelley: “direction directories ” , silly meOronoque Westland:I find the greatest places by being misdirectedGraham Mills: there is work going on but it is somewhat distribtedPathfinder Lester: Oro, yes, that has happened to me many times tooVanish Seriath: Hmm.Vanish Seriath: I don’t think directories are the way to go.Oronoque Westland:but then I am not always sure what grid I am onPathfinder Lester: i discovered New World Grid that way. fell through a hole and found myself on a region there.Jeff Kelley: Why, Vanish?Vanish Seriath: Reminds me too much of Yahoo’s beginnings.Vanish Seriath: They just don’t scale.Jeff Kelley: So, crawlers à la www ?Pathfinder Lester: yeah, manually curated things are good to start. but don’t scale over time.Graham Mills: I tend to agree but maybe it’s an evolutionary thingBau Ur: Oronoque, I am not even sure what grids exist , and their relationships to one another 🙂Pathfinder Lester: Jeff, i think that’s the solution. in my opinion.Vanish Seriath: Yes, I think the hypergates are on a good track there.Vanish Seriath: But they’re buggy atm.Bau Ur: HehehePathfinder Lester:http://thehypergates.comGraham Mills: and to some extent they’re eye candyOronoque Westland:Path, the super duper gate that you have on Pathlandia, has that been giving good service?Pathfinder Lester: Oro, oh the big one? yeah, it seems to work fine for me.Pathfinder Lester: i just love firing it up. the sound and animations are amazing.Jeff Kelley: THe is a problem with whitespaces in region namesOronoque Westland:I copied it, but use it for local tps onlyPathfinder Lester: yeah, i use it all the time to jump to regions on jokaydiagridPathfinder Lester: it’s just so fun to watch it start up and go WHOOOSH with the water.

Oronoque Westland:for those who have not used it, it is very much like the one in the TV showPathfinder Lester: yeah, it’s exactly like it.Bau Ur: It’s fun.Oronoque Westland:turns and whirs and spits vaporPathfinder Lester: all the sounds are samples from the stargate tv show, too.Bau Ur: hopefully in samples of under 10 seconds…Pathfinder Lester: and the model of the gate is the most accurate Stargate recreation i’ve ever seen in any virtual world.Jeff Kelley: agreePathfinder Lester: only issue is….that’s all IP belonging to someone else 😛Bau Ur: <<Bau Ur: >>Pathfinder Lester: lolOronoque Westland:IP?Pathfinder Lester: intellectual propertyBau Ur: intellectual propertyOronoque Westland:ah, okBau Ur: oppPathfinder Lester: owned by MGMMel Blauvelt: that’s why you ought to put some reverb on the samples before you upload them *ducks*Vanish Seriath: Please excuse us, we need to have dinner.Pathfinder Lester: Mel, lolPathfinder Lester: good ideaEl Sliven: Well…I better run guys….I will be back for the next meeting…:)Graham Mills: I vaguely recall Crista Lopes has written a search engine for SLMel Blauvelt: Enjoy, V & ElPathfinder Lester: take care V and ElVanish Seriath: I’ll see you around, guys.grid jumper: nice to meet youGraham Mills: Bye, V & EJeff Kelley: cuOronoque Westland:see you two soonPathfinder Lester: i must head out as wellBau Ur: Goodbye. GOod to meet you!Pathfinder Lester: have a good day, everyone. and great to meet you grid and Kateri.El Sliven: ByeGraham Mills: You too, PathKateri Runningbear: nice to mee tyou too 🙂Jeff Kelley: tc PathfinderPathfinder Lester: take care folks

That’s the end of our first tour of Help Island on Sunday. Read on for our second visit of the day.

There’s something strange caught in the spiderweb. You’ll have to look very closely.

Pathfinder Lester: 😉Talvin Muircastle: HGAC group not Open Enrollment?Talvin Muircastle: Oh, wait, there it is.Pathfinder Lester: Talvin, hm, it *should* bePathfinder Lester: oh goodPathfinder Lester: it worksVanish Seriath: It takes a bit.Talvin Muircastle: Heh. Apparently, I was the first person in this grid to create a group.Pathfinder Lester: cool!Talvin Muircastle: Which means I got to file all the bug reports. 😉Pathfinder Lester: lolPathfinder Lester: i love how folks visiting jokaydiagrid via hypergrid can still join the groupPathfinder Lester: it doesn’t show up when they’re not onjokaydiagrid, but it does reenable when they are herePathfinder Lester: no=oVanish Seriath: Yes, that’s great.Pathfinder Lester: and i believe offline group notice notifications to email worksVanish Seriath: You can even create a group as a hg traveller here.Pathfinder Lester: V, oh, that’s right!Pathfinder Lester: that’s very handyVanish Seriath: Hi Thirza, hi Arwenna.Pathfinder Lester: hi Arwenna, ThirzaArwenna Stardust: hi Vanish 🙂 Hi Path 🙂Vanish Seriath: Well, somewhat. I don’t know how well group chat works yet.Talvin Muircastle: Offline notices don’t seem to work yet, no.Pathfinder Lester: V, by the way, i love the new portal design you posted on your website. but i think the one I rezzed here is a gateway to something creepy.

Arwenna Stardust: @Talvin – I dont think offline IM works in OS in generalTalvin Muircastle:http://opensimulator.org/wiki/OsTeleportOwnerTalvin Muircastle: This doesn’t work here yet.Talvin Muircastle: But, unlike osTeleportAgent, which Jokay has to enable on request because it is a flaming huge security risk….El Sliven: Hiya Thirza!Talvin Muircastle: It has a Threat Level of “None”.Kayako Mayako: Group messages do work. That is, when I send out a group message in the RG, I receive the message in my specified e-mail acount.Talvin Muircastle: Interesting. It may just not be set for JG yet.Arwenna Stardust: but what about pesonal IMs?Vanish Seriath: Aw, thanks Path.Arwenna Stardust: I havent got that to work anywhere yet 😦Kayako Mayako: I have not tested personal IMs.Thirza Ember: evening allArwenna Stardust: Hi Thirza 🙂Pathfinder Lester: Arwenna, do you have “IMs sent to email” enabled in your viewer preferences?Arwenna Stardust: oh yes!Arwenna Stardust: I mean yes I do – always!Talvin Muircastle: Huh. OK, mine was NOT set.Talvin Muircastle: I thought it was. Interesting.Vanish Seriath: Chimera, did you see my reply re: Romenna snapshots?Talvin Muircastle: Let’s see if that improves things. 🙂Thirza Ember: thanksChimera Cosmos: yeah that’s rightChimera Cosmos: try to relog?Chimera Cosmos: oopsChimera Cosmos: chat switched tabs on me!Pathfinder Lester: i’ll make my standard intro remarks for the chatlog nowChimera Cosmos: was chatting to Spiral – her clothes won’t download LOLPathfinder Lester: Welcome to the Hypergrid Adventurers Club! Thank you all for joining us today.Pathfinder Lester: The first 30 min of each meeting is spent on introductions and an open discussion.Talvin Muircastle: At the moment, group inviters don’t work…it thinks the URL is for a landmark. That *should* be an easy patch.Pathfinder Lester: And for the second 30 min of each meeting, we will make some Hypergrid jumps to visit and explore an interesting location on the Hypergrid.Pathfinder Lester: To start, if you wish, feel free to jump in and say a few words about yourself and your projects/interests in open chat. This is always a good opportunity for networking. 🙂Pathfinder Lester: I post a full report and transcript of each meeting’s open chat on my blog, so this is also a chance for you to share information with everyone who reads the blog.Pathfinder Lester: And if you say anything in open chat that you would NOT like to be posted on my blog, please just say so in chat and I will redact your comments.Pathfinder Lester: I’m Pathfinder Lester, John Lester in real life. I used to work at Linden Lab from 2005-2010. Now I work at ReactionGrid Inc. as Director of Community Development. I started the Hypergrid Adventurers Club back in October of 2010. My blog is at http://becunningandfulloftricks.comVanish Seriath: I’m V of tgib.co.ukPathfinder Lester: heya Joel! great to see you.Joel Foner: hiya pathEl Sliven: I am El….V’s partnerJoel Foner: w00t – and i even have group slots free! 🙂 tee heeArwenna Stardust: I’m Arwenna Stardust in all VWs except for RL where I am Clare Atkins. NZ educator – was leader of SLENZ project now chair of VLENZ http://vlenz.edumuve.ac.nzPathfinder Lester: Joel, lolTalvin Muircastle: I am Talvin Muircastle, and I do a *lot* of things on here. One of my group titles is “Breaks Things For Jo”, in fact. 😛 Of most recent note, I have founded the Skills For Hire group with Jokay’s blessing and cooperation. If you are looking for paid work or need to hire skilled virtual labor, check out http://jokaydia.wikispaces.com/skillsforhirePathfinder Lester: Talvin, oh that’s great!Kayako Mayako: Kay McLennan at Tulane University (and I made my first OARs of the four islands in the Tulane SCS Metaverse today!).Arwenna Stardust: great idea TalvinThirza Ember: I’m Thirza and I’m the proud owner of the 100th sim on the Craft Grid as of yesterday. I write about VWs in a couple of blogs. Mostly on art. Craft GridPathfinder Lester: Thirza, wow, it’s great to see Craft Grid growing like that!Vanish Seriath: Aw, what is Craft Grid, and what made you decide to get a region there?Pathfinder Lester: i read somewhere Craft Grid had a celebration inworld this week?Thirza Ember: Craft was 1 year old on the 27thThirza Ember: it started with 4 peopleTalvin Muircastle: Pathfinder: may I suggest changing the title of “Member” to “Hypernaut”? 🙂Thirza Ember: today there are almost 700 registered users
strong>Chimera Cosmos: Oh-Vanish- no I didn’t. Multitasking 🙂Pathfinder Lester: Talvin, good idea. I will do that.Vanish Seriath: Aw, okay.Chimera Cosmos: Waaay behind in this chat – sorry!jTalvin Muircastle: PLease, please…do not leave out the ‘a’Arwenna Stardust: haha TalvinPathfinder Lester: lolPathfinder Lester: HYPERNUT
Talvin Muircastle produces a Hyper Squirrel.Pathfinder Lester: and sometimes, we are HYPERNOTS. as in “the hypergrid is not working right now. please try again later.”Pathfinder Lester: i have one quick announcementJohnnie Waugh:Hello all…….. Johnnie Waugh/Wendt in SL…. blogger, builder, hyperjaunter, home sim in NZVWG OS v7 HG 1.5 nzvwg.org.8002.AndelainPathfinder Lester: you’ll notice a second stone wall to the left of the HGAC kioskJoel Foner: oh was i supposed to do a who am i? sorry was in a fwe windowsPathfinder Lester: that’s a place for folks who want to rez flyers and stick them on the wall. for announcements, etc.Arwenna Stardust: being a window cleaner Joel 🙂 ?Pathfinder Lester: so please feel free to use it like a message board. you can rez things here and just place them on the wall.

Johnnie Waugh:sounds goodTalvin Muircastle: Path, you should consider rezzing the gates out *on* a map of the HyperGrid? 🙂Pathfinder Lester: Talvin, that’s an interesting idea. hmmmmJoel Foner: <- is a practicing technical project manager, problem solver and consultant with (fill in large number here) years experience, specializing in troubled project rescue and process improvement coaching.Talvin Muircastle: Easier to navigate.Pathfinder Lester: trueChimera Cosmos: I saw a Diva map of the hypergrid in early days – and it had to be in 3D to be correct!Kayako Mayako: Wow, I see the sloodle set I have been looking for but it is not for sale or copy (?).Talvin Muircastle: Just a suggestion for another day. *shrugs*Chimera Cosmos: dying to see a 3D model of it nowJohnnie Waugh:Yes if that could be done on all grids would be great often enter a grid then have a devil of job finding either a gate or a sim that is hypergrid enabled.Pathfinder Lester: Kayako, if you click on it it will give you a folder of contentsPathfinder Lester: hiya BauJoel Foner: @arwenna… yeah windowz should be cleansed, wouldn’t you agree? 😉Arwenna Stardust: grins at JoelTalvin Muircastle: I just want a hypergate big enough to shove all this snow through and forget about it.El Sliven: Hi Bau…:)Kayako Mayako: I think I may have to sneak back and pick up the set after the sim clears out. Still, I am excited to find the set! Thanks!Thirza Ember: 😦 my hypergate won’t workJoel Foner: i am so (not) psyched to hear that we’re getting *more* on weds!Talvin Muircastle: Tuesday and Wednesday here.Pathfinder Lester: Thirza, are you getting an error of some kind? or is it just nonfunctional?Arwenna Stardust: Hot and windy and cyclonic here 🙂Thirza Ember: no error messageThirza Ember: just no tpPathfinder Lester: Kayako, thank Ange from FrancoGrid. he placed it there earlier.Thirza Ember: i think i broke it when i dropped itPathfinder Lester: have you tried shaking it?Talvin Muircastle: osTeleportAgent has a high threat level. If you aren’t authorized for that level, it’s going to sit there and look pretty.Pathfinder Lester: lolThirza Ember: i kicked it …Chimera Cosmos: monopolizing the conversation LOLPathfinder Lester: Thirza, did you read the help notecard I have in the hypergate?

Here’s a copy of the notecard that explains how to set up Blamgates. Whenever you click on a Blamgate, it will give this notecard to you.

— Blamgate Notecard —
The stone archway in front of you is called a “Blamgate.”

Instant Hypergates are often referred to as “Blamgates,” and by simply walking through them you can immediately hypergrid jump from one grid to another.

Blamgates are inworld scripted objects, and you can find free copies of Blamgates on the region “Pathlandia” on jokaydiaGRID, or on the region “Permutation” on the ReactionGrid public grid.

You can install a Blamgate on your own region to allow your visitors to easily jump to a specific region on a completely different grid.

*** A few things to remember ***

1) Before doing any Hypergrid jumps, be sure you have set your Home location and have relogged since you first set it. If you don’t do this, Hypergrid jumps of any kind will not work.

2) Blamgates use a command called “osTeleportAgent.” For this command to work, the region that the Blamgate is located on must have the osTeleportAgent function explicitly enabled. To enable the osTeleportAgent function on your own grid, go to OpenSim.ini and look for the [XEngine] section. At the bottom of that section, add (without the quotes) “Allow_osTeleportAgent = true” then reboot your regions for it to take effect.

3) Blamgates will only work if they are owned by the owner of the parcel of land on which they are located.

4) If you’re with a group, be sure to walk through the Blamgate one at a time. It takes a few seconds for a Blamgate to reset after a jump, so be patient. If a Blamgate doesn’t work the first time you try to walk through it, just back up, wait a few seconds, then try walking through it again.

5) The Hypergrid destination of a Blamgate is usually indicated in hovertext at the top of the gate. You can reprogram a Blamgate’s destination by changing the Hypergrid address listed in the variable “SimName” in the script named “Instant Hypergrid Jump.”

If you’d like to learn more about how the Hypergrid works, you might want to join the Hypergrid Adventurers Club. We meet multiple times each week for discussions on Hypergrid travel, and we take tours of the Hypergrid as a group. Learn more at: https://becunningandfulloftricks.com/hypergrid-adventurers-club/— End of Notecard —

Talvin Muircastle: As I was saying earlier: http://opensimulator.org/wiki/OsTeleportOwner is coming soon, and I am really looking forward to playing with it. Should work for everybody. 🙂Thirza Ember: lol umPathfinder Lester: i started putting a file in them a little while ago. you may have an earlier one without that notecardThirza Ember: i read things. don’t mean i understand themPathfinder Lester: i’ll give a new one to you nowChimera Cosmos: Is there a place here on Pathlandia to get the earlier HGAC notecards?Thirza Ember: lolPathfinder Lester: for the current version of my blamgates, I made a help notecard in them that you can get if you just click on the gate. explains a bit how to set them up, and why they might not work.Pathfinder Lester: Chimera, I need to put up a kiosk for thatPathfinder Lester: ty for reminding meThirza Ember: ok, i think i went wrong on step one *blushes*Pathfinder Lester: i had a kiosk, but it got brokenThirza Ember: I nevah touched your kiosk, Path!Talvin Muircastle: Path, this is the internet.Pathfinder Lester: Thirza, no worries. it can be confusing to first set them up. that’s why i wrote that notecard. 😉Talvin Muircastle: You are supposed to say, “I had a kiosk, but I eated it.”Chimera Cosmos: Spiral is coming over, but she can’t get out of her white underwear!Chimera Cosmos: she needs expert adviceSpiral Theas: Hello all.Bau Ur: Hi.Pathfinder Lester: hello Spiral!Spiral Theas: Very sorry to be late — and so underdressed.Pathfinder Lester: welcome!Spiral Theas: Having problems.Spiral Theas: Thanks, Pathfinder.Arwenna Stardust: Hi SpiralChimera Cosmos: Spiral relogged and cleared cache – but no luckChimera Cosmos: ideas anyone?Thirza Ember: I’d ask what is the difference between blamgates, but i dont really want to knowThirza Ember: blanket for spiral?Spiral Theas: Yes!Spiral Theas: I am afraid I’m quite the sight!Pathfinder Lester: i can’t remember who came up with the term “blamgate”Arwenna Stardust: I think it was CiderTalvin Muircastle: With a Mac, it’s Cmd-Opt-R to rebake your appearance.Pathfinder Lester: but the hypergates I set up are instant ones. you walk thru and blam, you jumpJoel Foner: sort of the avatar version of “this page left intentionally blank”? 🙂Johnnie Waugh:yes sounds like Cider *grin*Pathfinder Lester: so someone said “it’s not a hypergate. it’s a blamgate”El Sliven: well…she looks ALL white to me…as most of you do…so she is “safe” in my eyes…LOLThirza Ember: sounds like beer reallyPathfinder Lester: and so the name stuck. ;PBau Ur: If I don’t intrude too much in asking, has everyone here tried multiple current viewers and have you found one that crashes less? Also how do you tell whether a crash is the fault of the viewer or the sim?Spiral Theas: Whew, El.Sliven.Pathfinder Lester: Spiral, is this the first time you’ve logged on to jokaydiagrid?Spiral Theas: No, have been on before.Bau Ur: I see everyone here clothed in white, by the way. A company of angels.
Joel Foner pictures huge stogie that when you wear it, tells your viewer to rebake your avatarPathfinder Lester: sometimes it just takes a while for the avatar bits to loadJoel Foner: this must have been a long day :p 🙂Johnnie Waugh:everyone but Spiral is normal for meBau Ur: OR of demons with uncharacteristically dull fashion sense.Spiral Theas: Tried changing outfit, but I get the message that I can’t change outfit or alter appearance…Chimera Cosmos: Only Kayako, Johnnie and Spiral are white to mePathfinder Lester: ooohKayako Mayako: I mostly use the Imprudence viewer (and then when hypergrid jumping follow Pathfiinder’s steps). However, interestingly, when I use the Hippo viewer, I can hypergrid jump using a landmark.Pathfinder Lester: i know that errorSpiral Theas: You all look great to me.Pathfinder Lester: that usually requires a relog to fix, in my experience.Spiral Theas: Ah, you do? Excellent.Kayako Mayako: P.S. – I was responding to Bau’s questions.Arwenna Stardust: We are all great – no matter our appearance!! lol!Spiral Theas: Yes, I relogged (that’s what I thought too) – but nothin’Pathfinder Lester: and if it never goes away, ask jokay to reset your avatar on the backend. that’s the final way to fix it.Spiral Theas: Ahhh, right. The Jokay fix.Pathfinder Lester: that happened to me once. and jokay fixed it.Joel Foner: sounds to me like region db is summa funnyArwenna Stardust: I use Imprudence pretty much exclusively nowSpiral Theas: Terrific, thanks, Pathfinder. I will try that.Pathfinder Lester: the quickest way to reach jokay for support issues is email. Send an email to support@jokaydiagrid.comChimera Cosmos: right now it’s AM in OZ I thinkChimera Cosmos: you haven’t been in for awhile have you Spiral?Pathfinder Lester: it’s also summer in OZ right now. that makes me jealous.Spiral Theas: Yes, that’s right. I haven’t been in for awhile.Chimera Cosmos: yeah SummerChimera Cosmos: unlike Boston!Chimera Cosmos: hehSpiral Theas: I came to the first few sessions of the Hygrid adventurers, but then, I had this avatar problem and never had all of you smart folks around to help me fix.Spiral Theas: So now I’m re-inspired.Chimera Cosmos: we are getting more snow in a day or so tooPathfinder Lester: it’s “Ice Station Zebra” in Boston.Spiral Theas: I can still move. I just look bad.Chimera Cosmos: sun came out…Talvin Muircastle: Spiral: I have that problem in RLTalvin Muircastle: Except some days it hurts to move, too.Pathfinder Lester: Spiral, you should join the HGAC Google Group. http://bit.ly/HGAC_Google_GroupSpiral Theas: We are buried in snow here in boston!Spiral Theas: Ha ha Talvin!Pathfinder Lester: that’s a good way to ask questions of everyone offline. and there are 128 ppl in that Google Group, so plenty of folks to ask.Thirza Ember: path can you give me another gate? I promised I would get one for oberon
Talvin Muircastle looks wry. “That’s why I joke so much…so when I say something serious, nobody believes me. :P”Pathfinder Lester: lolPathfinder Lester: sure thing ThirzaSpiral Theas: Thanks, Pathfinder. WIll do.Pathfinder Lester: just be sure to use the “blamgate 1.1” gate. throw the other one awayPathfinder Lester: i’ve standardized on calling them blamgates from now on.Chimera Cosmos: I missed figuring out there was an hgac google group till this weekend. Duh!Chimera Cosmos: knew about the calendar and blogsPathfinder Lester: we are a multi-tech group. lolPathfinder Lester: twitter, google group, inworld group, blog, smoke signals.Chimera Cosmos: cough cough smokeSpiral Theas: you name it, we’ve got it.Bau Ur: …and telegraph. ANd don’t forget the water drums.Pathfinder Lester: i’ll pass out today’s tour notecard now.

— Contents of Notecard —
Before doing any Hypergrid jumps, be sure you have set your Home location and have relogged since you set it. If you don’t, Hypergrid jumps will not work. This appears to be a bug.

Many people find the Imprudence viewer to be very good for using with both SL and other grids. You can find it here: http://imprudenceviewer.org/

*** How to make Manual Hypergrid Jumps in 4 easy steps ***
1) Open your World Map.
2) In the text box next to the Search button, enter the Hypergrid Address.
3) Click the Search button and wait for the map to move to the jump region.
4) Click the Teleport button.

We’ll be making this jump using one of the instant Hypergates on Pathlandia. It’s the stone behind the wagon full of apples. Just walk up to the archway and walk through it. You will automatically make a Hypergrid jump to “Help Island.”

“Help Island” on ReactionGrid is being developed by Tinsel Silvera (http://twitter.com/#!/Tinsel_Silvera). It contains helpful resources for new avatars, including a freebie area, a Gallery of Prims for new builders, and HyperGates to various regions.

Do you know of other Help Islands or New User Orientation areas on other grids? Please let me know about them. I’m working to put together a list of them all which I will then publish. Thank you.

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jokaydiaGRID has a Newbie Dome for folks to pick up freebies that can help them get started. If you find any good freebies in your Hypergrid travels that you’d like to share, you can put them in the Newbie Dome. There’s currently a lack of many good outfits and items for male avatars, so it would be great if we could find more items like that to share.— End of Notecard —

Talvin Muircastle: Using the particle system to create a region to region signaling system would be fun, but let’s just assume he’s joking.Bau Ur: and a code of masses of knots in bundes of cord carried by Aztec runnersBau Ur: You know, it would be so cool if particles could cross region boundaries. If there were a permission system to allow that.Pathfinder Lester: so we’ll be visiting Help Island on ReactionGrid. Tinsel Silvera has been working on setting that up.Bau Ur: You could trace lost comreades when Map won’t opePathfinder Lester: i thought it would be a good idea to have a series of tours specifically to visit different help and orientation regions on different grids. to learn how folks are trying to get newbies into opensim.Pathfinder Lester: i’ll collect a list of all the ones we find, and will put up a page on my blog listing them all.Johnnie Waugh:think that is a good ideaArwenna Stardust: good ideaJohnnie Waugh:SnapArwenna Stardust: I’ll be bringing in students soon and it will be a great helpPathfinder Lester: ooh new students!Spiral Theas: Fresh blood!Arwenna Stardust: yep 20 second yeat IT degree students!Arwenna Stardust: *yearBau Ur: hmmBau Ur: DO you have orientation aides, Arwenna?Arwenna Stardust: heaps in SL and on wikieducatorBau Ur: GreatArwenna Stardust: but not much hereBau Ur: Will you attempt all 20 in one ReactionGrid region?Arwenna Stardust: my 4th year of teaching in VWArwenna Stardust: but all previous has been in SLArwenna Stardust: prob notArwenna Stardust: 2 * 10 will work betterPathfinder Lester: we’ve had over 20 ppl here on Pathlandia in the past. thing were pretty stable.Pathfinder Lester: *thingsJohnnie Waugh:yesArwenna Stardust: yes – but they will all be buildingBau Ur: Perhaps some people here would be helpful volunteers to orient your herd.Arwenna Stardust: can be a bit heavyPathfinder Lester: ah, good pointArwenna Stardust: heavy going for me too!!!Pathfinder Lester: lolArwenna Stardust: 10 is manageable for me – 20 is pushing it!Talvin Muircastle: Arwenna: a similar number of *high school* students were building here not long ago. The grid still stands.Chimera Cosmos: Joel, what’s your SL last name? I forget!Chimera Cosmos: dohVanish Seriath: What’re you planning on doing with the students, Arwenna?Pathfinder Lester: wrangling 20 students in any environment can be pretty challengingArwenna Stardust: yesArwenna Stardust: Vanish – I will post a link to the class blog on googlegroupsBau Ur: wrangilng is indeed the right word tooJoel Foner: oops sorry chimeraJoel Foner: sl: joel savard, rl: joel foner, everywhere else social: joelfoner or joel.fonerChimera Cosmos: right! SavardArwenna Stardust: last years was http://anm624.wordpress.comVanish Seriath: Aw, thanks.Pathfinder Lester: cool, thanks for that info Arwenna. i hope it all goes well.Pathfinder Lester: hmm…looks like it’s time for us to travel!Pathfinder Lester: just 1 jump todayPathfinder Lester: this gate where I’m standingPathfinder Lester: we’ll arrive on the region “Help Island” on ReactionGrid

Pathfinder Lester: welcome to Help Island.Decka Mah: I am trying to determine 2 things…what viewer to recommend for students for OpenSim and what viewer to make the orientation help signs and info forJoel Foner: phoenix is an auto-crash on opensim for me, so i’ve landed with imprudence for general useSpiral Theas: Nice.Pathfinder Lester: Tinsel Silvera has been working on thisDecka Mah: Hey PathfinderDecka Mah: sorry I couldn’t get5 to JKGridPathfinder Lester: there’s a rezzing area nearby, some tutorial posters, freebies, things to explore, etc.Pathfinder Lester: and if you have any feedback for Tinsel on how to improve things here, i’m sure he’d love to hear

Arwenna Stardust: Decka – with my students I am going to start with ImprudenceBau Ur: Did anyone else here see Orientation Station in SL? I thought it was a fine model. Movement and camera skills instruction in the immediate entry way. All other lessons arranged in a clear linear fashion, no doubt about where to go or in what order to do anything. . Nohting too overwhelming at any one time, no distractions.Pathfinder Lester: good points, BauArwenna Stardust: and then ask them to experiemnt with V2 for SL but Imp will be their main oneVanish Seriath: Orientation station?Vanish Seriath: Didn’t they call it Welcome Island now?Vanish Seriath: Or is that something else?Pathfinder Lester: i’m curious, what was the BEST new user orientation experience you all have seen in SL?Talvin Muircastle: There are two islands involved. The second one with all the flowers and stuff was horrid.Joel Foner: @path – people 🙂Bau Ur: Van, it was an alternative to the Linden orientation and help island instructions, designed in conjuction with several experienced Mentors. Honda or TOyota were going to use it to orient people to SL to attend meetings and presentations there.Vanish Seriath: Pathfinder, seriously: I liked orientation island to some extent.Vanish Seriath: Maybe I’m just nostalgic, though.Joel Foner: virtual ability is pretty goodPathfinder Lester: V, yeah, i liked that one tooBau Ur: It was the best orientation I ever saw. Well thought out. Only flaw, a bit of the text was too small.Thirza Ember: II’ve never been oriented in my life, so I can’t say….. I get sign blindness in new placesJoel Foner: actually the brand newest initial orientation when you set up a new av is pretty good – basic basic but gets people moving without getting too lost in having to “learn everything” up frontJoel Foner: on sl i meantDecka Mah: Virtual Ability is niceDecka Mah: but it takes a whoile islandPathfinder Lester: “sign blindness” i like that phrase. true for many people, Thirza.Thirza Ember: long notecards are the worstsamantha chester: HiBau Ur: Thirza a good thing about Orientation Station was that, with its hallways, it was clear where you needed to go, wihtout seeing the whole array of signs all at once. Prevented people from feeling overwhelmed. Also, was a mercy to the viewer, not too many novel textures to upload all at once.Talvin Muircastle: One thing I worry about for an orientation area is these gates: when I visited here earlier, *I* managed to blunder right into one of them.Talvin Muircastle: For a newbie, that’s a real and dis-orienting concern.Decka Mah: I have a playdeck on my island in SL so people learn the interface by playing gamesBau Ur: Good idea Deck.Pathfinder Lester: yeah, i definitely think the gates need to be movedDecka Mah: I like the way that virtual ability ahve put rails along all paths so you follow the arriws and can’t strayBau Ur: yes! I agree Decka.Thirza Ember: good point BauPathfinder Lester: Decka, oh that’s an outstanding ideaBau Ur: Virtual Ability was well thought out from the beginnig, and well tweaked therafter.Joel Foner: i’ve always thought that a multimedia approach would be best… video demo/tutorial on web site, followed by jump inworld, with both static and video demo / tutorial options in worldDecka Mah: It is also very open so no walls to see throughDecka Mah: Joel that only works if you can get the media to play in worldDecka Mah: unless it is shown on youtube firstJoel Foner: (yes, i know… quicktime blah blah tech problems… but it works for some reasonable percentage of folks and is the best learning envrionment if done in very short 1-3 minute slugs)Talvin Muircastle: Virtual Ability designed theirs for Universal Accessibility rather than Disability Access. The…complications of the Community Gateway setup meant that they got many people who would not normally be looking for a place with a Disability Theme. I’d say it overall did quite well.Joel Foner: yes … that’s why i suggested also having ti on a web page 🙂Arwenna Stardust: one thing I think is important is to explain about lag – no one does – but experiencing lag and knowing to wait a few seconds is important for newbiesBau Ur: If the most resource-heavy thing is their first experience, the chances go up that their first experience will be a failure 🙂Pathfinder Lester: Virtual Ability has done a ton of work making things universally accessibleDecka Mah: Only if you have camera control to see the videoTalvin Muircastle: You know, in RL we talk about Auditory, Visual, and Kinesthetic learners. Yet, when we get into a Virtual World, we don’t really think about that. Why not?Decka Mah: it is always hard to plan for controlling the viewpoint of the userThirza Ember: depends why you’re coming into a VW… what your motivation is, don’t you think?Bau Ur: It’s good to give people as many successes as possible at the start of a new thing, small though each success may be. Reduces anxiety, increases leanring over the long haul.Decka Mah: so multiple approaches can be goodArwenna Stardust: I really think that all orientation stations need a quick sign saying – if things don’t happen immediately DONT PANICJoel Foner: jennette forager has done a lot of high volume orientation work, and when we’ve worked together we bring people into a “non build” – almost nothing there, which keeps lag to almost zero, and helps people to focus on the things they’re learning in the first 5-10 minutesArwenna Stardust: lag happensBau Ur: Good idea Arvenna 🙂Decka Mah: I once parcelled an island into small squares and you had a dot to stand on and it would play the video if you stoofd on that spotBau Ur: I was about to agree with Decka, it is good totell newcomers not to assume they have done anything wrong: sometimes things are slow; don’t panic.Pathfinder Lester: Bau, yes, i think that’s a very good expectation to set at the beginning.

Bau Ur: Well, you know, it is discouraging to crash so often in these group activities.Pathfinder Lester: i agreeBau Ur: We are really not a very rowdy bunch. It is not clear why we break things.Pathfinder Lester: well, first of all, we’re hypergridding
Bau Ur carries a book with the words “Don’t Panic” written in large, freindly letters on the cover.Decka Mah: I think everyone went donwPathfinder Lester: and that’s more stressful to regions that regular avs visiting.Pathfinder Lester: plus….as far as I know…we’re the largest group of folks who all hypergrid jump at the same timePathfinder Lester: so many regions have never experienced the hypergrid load we put on themPathfinder Lester: maybe one or two people at a timePathfinder Lester: but never like a dozen!Pathfinder Lester: Chimera, those clothes are from FrancoGrid? they look familiar. from the winter festival.Chimera Cosmos: from Nani FergusonChimera Cosmos: when we went on the ski tripPathfinder Lester: coolSpiral Theas: Ah, yes, I saw those pictures from your ski trip.Spiral Theas: It looked lovely.Spiral Theas: And now I have the sweater!Pathfinder Lester: we find nice things in our travelsSpiral Theas: Thanks, BauDecka Mah: GermanGrid has some nice freebies available tooJohnnie.Waugh: yes freebie-heavenJoel Foner: has anyone done any quantitative analysis of orientation areas?Bau Ur: I love freebie areas even when I don’t want any of the stuff. The demonstration of goodwill by original creators is just so cheering.Joel Foner: i know some folks at the lab did some work on this, but i think it was mostly retention rates rather than learning that was measured, and they’re really not the same thingPathfinder Lester: Joel, i don’t know. good questionBau Ur: Walking through a mall you may see more stuff, but it does not give you any sense of warmth for your fellow man 🙂Spiral Theas: Where are the freebies, Bau?Decka Mah: Joel…what would you measure?Joel Foner: i guess… (completely off the cuff)Joel Foner: there are some skills that we’re hoping people will acquireJoel Foner: so you could measure whether they have acquired those skillsJohnnie.Waugh: its fairly subjective and depends more on learning styles than anything else I would have thoughtJoel Foner: using the same techniques for “regular” educationJoel Foner: hmm not reallyPathfinder Lester: i checked a few days ago, and our gigantic “flash freebie mob” setup is still on StaminaGrid.Pathfinder Lester: tons of stuff we placed there. https://becunningandfulloftricks.com/2011/01/13/hypergrid-adventurers-club-meet-3132-a-message-in-a-bottle-for-staminagrid/Joel Foner: could measure how long it takes someone to figure out how to do something they’ve learnedJoel Foner: do multiple choiceChimera Cosmos: yeah was wonderingJoel Foner: have a “drivers test”Johnnie.Waugh: find one-on-one mentoring although labour intensive can get someone up to speed in about 30 minutesJoel Foner: i don’t think this is “so” different from any other measure skills acquisition issue that it couldn’t be handled the same wayDecka Mah: Having the test itself would influence the participants unless they are sureptitiously testedJoel Foner: agreed johnniePathfinder Lester: Johnnie, yeah, i’ve heard from many folks that one-on-one mentoring is very effective. folks like knowing there’s a human being there helping them out. i think it gives them more confidence.Decka Mah: I think Virtual Ability sort of does that by making it almost impossible to failBau Ur: 🙂Decka Mah: yeah Johnnie but that doesn’t scale up wellSpiral Theas: Thanks, Bau. Very cool hat.Decka Mah: ISTE Island in SL has round the clock Docents there to help peopleBau Ur: I think it is generally important. when your students are doing something very new, very weird, to give them as many success experiences as you can, early on.Johnnie.Waugh: no true…….. unless you use a cell system…train five and then as the class task have them train five each and so onDecka Mah: that is a cool hat Beau…sculpty?Bau Ur: Even if they are very small successes. It prevents anxiety and results in better outcomes over the long haul.Bau Ur: Even fun things naturally induce a level of anxiety in most people. Those who truly embrace the utterly weird are rare.Decka Mah: My students love the part6y concept and it uses tell one and they tell another all done on a playdeck with a dance floor and DJBau Ur: and, weird.Decka Mah: mud wrestling and arm wrestling are always a hitJohnnie.Waugh: find that people that get the one-on-one normally stay in grid….. continue on and dont drop out when classes finish etcBau Ur: party environment is a great way to learn.Decka Mah: it is full of fun and laughter and htat helps destress peoplePathfinder Lester: have any of you tried the virtual world Twinity? it’s a web-based 3d world. their orientation experience is pretty nice in that it rewards you with $ each time you complete something.Pathfinder Lester: that’s a good incentive ;PJoel Foner: sooo surprising that when people find a social connection with other human beings, it tends to increase the value of staying around! (yes, snarky, but i think that’s the elephant in the room… not so many people are into being complete hermits in a figure it out all yourself world 🙂Johnnie.Waugh: yes I have tried using Singapore but then became bored with itPathfinder Lester: Johnnie, it’s funny you mention that.Pathfinder Lester: i remember when I was back at LL….Johnnie.Waugh: same as with Blue marsSpiral Theas: So true, Joel.Spiral Theas: It’s the personal connections that make it stick.Decka Mah: rewards are a good incentive. The SLoodle quizes do that but the gold is only legal tender in the SLoodle vending machine for goodiesSpiral Theas: That, along the sense of presence and affiliating with your avatar.Pathfinder Lester: the single most important predictor we had about whether or not someone would become a repeat visitor to SL was how soon they started friending and chatting with people.Joel Foner: jennette and i worked for a while trying to figure out the absolute fastest path to minimalist learning to attend a basic business or discussion-style eventChimera Cosmos: I think that community is the absolute keyJoel Foner: one of the hardest things is to AVOID teaching 🙂Joel Foner: ’cause they really don’t need to know that muchDecka Mah: competition, community, success, …these are things that appeal to different learning styles and personalitiesChimera Cosmos: depends on your goalsChimera Cosmos: I didn’t care about making random friendsJoel Foner: okChimera Cosmos: it was only finding the educator community with common interests that hooked meJoel Foner: but… you do value making some friends chimera … that’s ovbvious 🙂Joel Foner: rightChimera Cosmos: meeting folks in the orientation area – mehSpiral Theas: Totally agree, Chimera. It’s about community and supporting your own interests.Pathfinder Lester: Decka, have you written about these ideas and experiences of yours? if so, I’d love to read your stuff.Bau Ur: It’s very interesting to hear people at Shelter, who are just standing around dancing, asking questions about SL and getting help from the volunteers there.Chimera Cosmos: yes, but they are people who have a serious purpose hereSpiral Theas: What made it stick for me was finidng like-minded education types.Chimera Cosmos: whether it be business, art, music, educationBau Ur: The fantasy of a party atmosphere induces a kind of friendliness that is helpful.Decka Mah: I am writing it up now in my dissertation but perhaps an article after my current research into Orientation areas is a smalrt ideaChimera Cosmos: and they are all concerned about how to grow and strenghthen communityChimera Cosmos: as am IJohnnie.Waugh: Yes but in a class situation..not teaching… they will naturally friend up …the cell group system of mentoring fosters that…and then you get interlinking..Pathfinder Lester: Decka, cool. good luck with your diss!Spiral Theas: But the party atmosphere also puts some people off.Bau Ur: Spiral, true. In all honesty it puts me off 🙂Bau Ur: But I am a grim bastard. 🙂Pathfinder Lester: lolSpiral Theas: he heh.Decka Mah: yes but I think what we are airing here is that maybe one size does NOT fit allSpiral Theas: Many new people that I bring into SL are very fearful of the party scene.Johnnie.Waugh: and the one-on-one thing gets them communicating with the mentor first of all…. your key five..the first trained…. then have a circle of five friends…and becoem friends of yorus and then with each other,..it spreads easily and naturallySpiral Theas: And strangers that approach them at the orientation stations.Joel Foner: i’ve often wondered whether competent npcs could *dramatically* improve the learning experienceJoel Foner: that’s one part of wow and lotro that’s usually completely missing in sl-style virtual worldsJohnnie.Waugh: yes truePathfinder Lester: Joel, the model of “have NPCs that give fun quests” model works very well in MMOs to teach people initial skills.Joel Foner: feels somewhat like interacting with a person, without having to staff the place 7×24 x user countJoel Foner: yupChimera Cosmos: I don’t knowChimera Cosmos: bots kinda turn me offJoel Foner: and gets over the “well, i’m not so social and going to a club is not my thing”Talvin Muircastle: I am working on a proof of concept for a quest-style orientation. Very rough at the moment.Spiral Theas: not high touch enough?Decka Mah: in games the NPCs are the trainersChimera Cosmos: I think it’s better to arrange the experience from the outsideJoel Foner: chimera – if you had to choose signs or bots, which would you want to learn from?Chimera Cosmos: meeting up with new folks, getting them to the right communityChimera Cosmos: mixtureJoel Foner: what does from the outside mean?Pathfinder Lester: Talvin, interesting. i’d love to hear how your quest system evolves over time.Chimera Cosmos: if it’s just orientationChimera Cosmos: I think activities are better for learningChimera Cosmos: in contextSpiral Theas: Jenn Forager (in SL) swears by the passive intrduction.Decka Mah: hyowever I want people to know a bot from a human driven avatar so I like the little robots that are obviousSpiral Theas: No action at first, just watching.Spiral Theas: Context is everything, Chimera. Yes.Chimera Cosmos: proper web based orientation materials – outsideTalvin Muircastle: Pathfinder: well, right now it is swimming in primordial soup and trying not to eventually make Dick Cheney’s spiritual descendants rich off its decomposed remains. 🙂Bau Ur: I find bots revolting.Spiral Theas: Motivated by what you want to be able to do.Chimera Cosmos: depending on who your are helping inPathfinder Lester: beep beep. welcome to opensim. i am your robot servant. let’s learn together.

Bau Ur: HehehSpiral Theas: he heheDecka Mah: yeah Pathfinder, there is an island inSpiral Theas: You are a quick change artists!Chimera Cosmos: I think that newcomers should be learning in groupsDecka Mah: SL that does thatBau Ur: Yes, but in your case there is a ghost in the machine:)Chimera Cosmos: not alone or with botsJohnnie.Waugh: laughing…. if you could have a bot that reacted like that well and goodSpiral Theas: Groups. Good.Pathfinder Lester: truePathfinder Lester: lolChimera Cosmos: social learningTalvin Muircastle: It often seems like we are looking for The One True Answer…and the Answer is that peope learn in different ways.Johnnie.Waugh: yes so true TalPathfinder Lester: Talvin, yeah, i think that’s so true.Spiral Theas: Too right, Talvin.Chimera Cosmos: yes – just like regular educationSpiral Theas: Just like real life.Chimera Cosmos: looking for the “one true solution” is a BAD idea hehehBau Ur: Talvin, especially when we are speaking of people with social anxieties or special needs. The type of personal interaction needed then becomes very variableBau Ur: very specific and individual.Chimera Cosmos: yesSpiral Theas: And speaking of RL, I’m afraid I have to go…Spiral Theas: Dinner calls.Joel Foner: sry got pulled away – what do you mean by passive introduction spiralJoel Foner: ?Chimera Cosmos: different constiuencies and different goals demand different orientationsPathfinder Lester: yes, i must get dinner prepared tooPathfinder Lester: what a great discussion today 🙂Talvin Muircastle: People Who Use Virtual Worlds are very much like People With Disabilities in that way. “You are blind? You must want lots of sound! You do World of Warcraft? Here’s somebody with an exclamation point over his head!”Spiral Theas: Thanks Pathfinder, and everyone, for the fun, company, and cool hat!Joel Foner: see you spiral… yeah dinner starting to chant here tooDecka Mah: having the luxury of lots of prims and space makes it possible to have multiple learning options. When you have a small spot and limited prims, it is harder to cater to allJohnnie.Waugh: see you guys.Pathfinder Lester: take care everyone. hope to see you all again soon.Bau Ur: I have mentored several people who suffer from sever social anxiety and SL has been a great thing for them, great practice in tolerating interactions with multiple people. But some of them still are distracted and anxious in the compnay of more than three or four *avatars*.

Thanks for the visit and write-up of ReactionGrid Help Island. So glad to see all the visitors! My apologies for those who arrived in the middle of the tree. I have a default landing spot set elsewhere but it is overridden when HyperGridding for some reason. I’ll work on trying to fix that inconvenience.