I'm interested in doing something VERY similar for the U106 Haplogroup and want to get in contact with Steve to ensure he is okay with me basically copying his work. I would appreciate help in getting in touch with him and I don't know if he is on this forum or not.

I will be adding Geno 2.0 results to the R-L21 WTY Summary pdf once they become available, and am also planning on providing a spreadsheet of complete Geno 2.0 results when possible.

See Geno 2.0 for current status and instructions. Prior to results being available, please let me know that you have the test on order so I can start doing data setup, and people can see who has tests on order. Please send kit # and project where current SNP results can be found (e.g., L21+ project) to geno@daver.info.

I will be adding Geno 2.0 results to the R-L21 WTY Summary pdf once they become available, and am also planning on providing a spreadsheet of complete Geno 2.0 results when possible.

See Geno 2.0 for current status and instructions. Prior to results being available, please let me know that you have the test on order so I can start doing data setup, and people can see who has tests on order. Please send kit # and project where current SNP results can be found (e.g., L21+ project) to geno@daver.info.

I'm interested in doing something VERY similar for the U106 Haplogroup and want to get in contact with Steve to ensure he is okay with me basically copying his work. I would appreciate help in getting in touch with him and I don't know if he is on this forum or not.

I deleted my email from NG Geno2.0 by accident.How can I retrieve my ID number?

If I remember correctly, it should be the same as the number on the vials you'll receive, no?

If you sign into the NatGeo store which is separate from your Genographic id. you will see a history of your purchases. If you forgot your password they will resend a temporary one by inputting your eMail.You cad retrieve your Genographic id. in a similar manner. When I reactivated my NGID I was surprised to see that it separates Y and MtDNA into two separate accounts with separate usernames and eMail which is not very convenient. Have they not heard of single sign on?

I have been at a terminal SNP for two years now, but I read up-thread that there are supposed to be three new SNPs downstream of my R-M222.

Has this really been verified and is it recommended for M222 men to take the NatGeo one?

Thanks

Quote from Bennett Greenspan below, which confirms this. I was expecting Spencer Wells detailed paper listing the SNP and available via Thomas Krahns database to be out by now or at least by the end of October. This would certainly help potential testers make a decision on whether to test or not.

"By way of example, in haplogroup R-M222 – the new Geno chip includes discoveries of at least three unique SNP’s downstream of R-M222.

These 10,000 new SNPs will provide, for almost everyone, one or two additional clades (subhaplogroups) down the tree from where they are located today. For some people, these will reach into a genealogical timeframe, connecting their SNPs and their STR data. The STR tests will then be used to further augment the Geno 2.0 SNP tests for genealogical comparisons within families."

I deleted my email from NG Geno2.0 by accident.How can I retrieve my ID number?

If I remember correctly, it should be the same as the number on the vials you'll receive, no?

If you sign into the NatGeo store which is separate from your Genographic id. you will see a history of your purchases. If you forgot your password they will resend a temporary one by inputting your eMail.You cad retrieve your Genographic id. in a similar manner. When I reactivated my NGID I was surprised to see that it separates Y and MtDNA into two separate accounts with separate usernames and eMail which is not very convenient. Have they not heard of single sign on?

Mike,Brunetmj is Df13* and I understand his test is shipping now. You may want to wait for initial results to come in or when the detailed study from Spencer Wells is published. As Bennett Greenspan said most people will discover one of two SNPs downstream from where they are now. However as you have already tested negative for several SNPs downstream of L21 this may lower the odds. My hope would be that many of the elusive * and ** SNPs will be discovered. Also this round of testing will massively increase the database and the potential for discovering new SNPs so the next iteration of the chip (whenever that may be) will be more comprehensive.

I have 24 pending Geno 2.0 tests listed in the L21+ WTY/Geno 2.0 Summary. If you are testing Geno 2.0 with an L21+ kit and would like to be included in the eventual summary (once results start coming in), please send an e-mail to geno@daver.info with your kit number.

Hi there, I am confused as to if it is or is not the same price for those who have already tested with FTDNA and have done the previous conversion to the genographic project and if we are to order from FTDNA or genographic project?

IMPORTANT NOTE: If you are an existing FTDNA customer, please do not pre-order through National Geographic at this time. There is no advantage to doing so, it will likely cost you more, and at this point, it is not at all clear what will happen if you do so -- you may end up with some test results under your current kit, and the Geno 2.0 results underneath a different kit number. Please give FTDNA a chance to clarify what current customers should do to make sure we don't end up with an IT nightmare.

* Does not include STRs -- does not replace Y37/Y67/Y111 tests* Does not predict family relationships -- does not replace Family Finder* Is not a full mitochrondial sequence -- does not replace FMS* Contains no medical information (avoid wrath of Big Brother)

* If pre-ordered from National Geographic, will ship no later than 30 Oct, but expected to go out in early September* 6-8 weeks for results, no waiting list expected* FTDNA customers will have the option to test an existing sample at an upgrade price. Link will appear on the myFTDNA page if the kit is eligible (late summer, early fall)

* Does replace the current Deep Clade tests* No cost to transfer results from National Geographic to FTDNA* 12,000 Y SNPs* 3,352 mtDNA SNPs (if you see 32,000 referenced, they are referring to the number of probes necessary to accurately sample 3,352 mtDNA SNPs)* Some 130,000 autosomal and X-chromosomal Ancestry Informative Markers, derived from roughly 450 populations around the globe* Focus is deep ancestry, not finding relatives* Raw data will be available for download* Reference population data will be downloadable* 400 WTY and 500 Y Samples were tested as proof of concept -- 5,291 new nodes found to add to the haplotree

Per Thomas Krahn:* Cutoff on Y SNPs was rough Nov 2011; new DF, L, Z SNPs found after that won't be included [but will be in a future custom chip update]* Not all "known" Y-SNPs will be available -- "not all SNPs can be typed on a chip"* Spencer Wells has a paper pending; once that is published, information on markers being tested will be available via Thomas's db. [this fall for the paper??]

Question: Custom Illumina chip was vetted by running against 400 pre-existing WTY samples, finding over 5,000 new nodes to add to the haplotree. Will customers be able to order an "upgrade" for their sample and obtain this data, sooner than later? (Since it already exists.)