The AR-15 is the ArmaLite model 15. The AR-1, ArmaLite's first product, was a plastic-stocked bolt-action hunting rifle.
That ArmaLite was a division of the Fairchild airplane company. It hasn't existed in decades. The current Armalite is formerly Eagle Arms, and changed their name to Armalite after purchasing the rights to the name from Elisco Tool of the Phillipeans.
-Troy

Originally Posted By Troy:
The AR-15 is the ArmaLite model 15. The AR-1, ArmaLite's first product, was a plastic-stocked bolt-action hunting rifle.
That ArmaLite was a division of the Fairchild airplane company. It hasn't existed in decades. The current Armalite is formerly Eagle Arms, and changed their name to Armalite after purchasing the rights to the name from Elisco Tool of the Phillipeans.
-Troy

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...and the intelectual property, i.e., R@D data and drawings. In affect that ArmaLite is this ArmaLite.

Originally Posted By QCMGR:
...and the intelectual property, i.e., R@D data and drawings. In affect that ArmaLite is this ArmaLite.

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No way.
BUT, that is NOTHING bad against the current company, which is doing a great job. In particular, the AR10 and the AR180 are fantastic, and the folks at Armalite are wonderful people.
Still, the companies are very different, and have a quarter century of time between them. Facts is facts.
-Troy

...and the intelectual property, i.e., R@D data and drawings. In affect that ArmaLite is this ArmaLite.

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Actually, Pete Fleis is closer to that than the current ArmaLite, as he recently purchased the remains of Timberline Hawk. Timberline Hawk, as you may know, was the remaining parts inventory and blueprints, etc. from Costa Mesa. It was run by a former ArmaLite employee before selling it to someone out of Iowa who in turn sold it to Pete.

Still, the companies are very different, and have a quarter century of time between them. Facts is facts.

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A little less time than that. The original ArmaLite went belly-up in 1983. Eagle Arms began marketing products under the ArmaLite trademark in 1995.

Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:
ARmalite. A company that doesn't exist anymore. Not the ArmaLite of today (Eagle Arms).

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Blah, blah, blah. I am glad that you imparted this wisdom to us. They do exist. They bought the rights to the name and other pertinent data from the holder of said items. Based on what you say, Colt is not Colt, S&W is not S&W, etc. Many gun makers have been bought and sold at one time or another.

If it's a Colt, it's a copy of an original ArmaLite.

I am not LARRYG36.

Racing is life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.

If your AR10 is marked Geneseo, IL, it's still an AR10 no matter what some people say.

...and the intelectual property, i.e., R@D data and drawings. In affect that ArmaLite is this ArmaLite.

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Actually, Pete Fleis is closer to that than the current ArmaLite, as he recently purchased the remains of Timberline Hawk. Timberline Hawk, as you may know, was the remaining parts inventory and blueprints, etc. from Costa Mesa. It was run by a former ArmaLite employee before selling it to someone out of Iowa who in turn sold it to Pete.

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I met Pete at the BRC. He told me the same thing. Nice guy. He even let me shoot is RPD.

Armalite (A division of Fairchild Aircraft), now ain't they the ones who sold the AR15 rights to Clot......
Armalite today has about as much to do with Armalite of yesteryear as does the European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company (EADS) has to do with Armalite.
Big deal, they bought the name. The Tennasee Titans bought the Houston Oilers.
Now days anyone can make an AR15.

Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Blah, blah, blah. I am glad that you imparted this wisdom to us. They do exist. They bought the rights to the name and other pertinent data from the holder of said items. Based on what you say, Colt is not Colt, S&W is not S&W, etc. Many gun makers have been bought and sold at one time or another.

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That is the kind of nonsense that perpetuates the fraud and myth that the current ArmaLite has anything to do with the original other than sharing a common name. The ArmaLite that gave us the AR15 no longer exists and hasn't for decades. Eagle Arms simply purchased the ArmaLite name with which to remark their existing product for use in a cleverly deceptive marketing scheme. That they and some of their customers continue to mislead by deliberately blurring the line between themselves and the original doesn't speak well for their honesty and ethics.
This is not at all like the transfers of ownership of Colt, S&W, Winchester, and myriad other companies wherein not just the right to a simple name was sold and bought but proprietery data, trademark product names, product service/warranty, employees, tooling, manufacturing facilities, an unbroken line of production, and the company archives/historical data were included in and completed the sale package.
We can all agree that AR does indeed stand for ArmaLite. Not a rebadged Eagle Arms.
I'm sure we'll now be treated to your return to an erroneous, misguided rant about Colt as your signature line. [;)]

Originally Posted By Boomer:
Eagle Arms simply purchased the ArmaLite name with which to remark their existing product for use in a cleverly deceptive marketing scheme. That they and some of their customers continue to mislead by deliberately blurring the line between themselves and the original doesn't speak well for their honesty and ethics.

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Please tell us more. Are you implying ArmaLite is commiting fraud? Please explain how ArmaLite is not ArmaLite in more detail.

Originally Posted By Boomer:
I'm sure we'll now be treated to your return to an erroneous, misguided rant about Colt as your signature line. [;)]

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Ask and ye shall receive. Whether it's the original ArmaLite or not, a Colt is still a copy of an ArmaLite. It is neither erroneous nor misguided to say so. One doesn't have to be referring to the current ArmaLite, the fact is that the Colt is a copy of an ArmaLite.
Besides, I wouldn't brag too much about Colt. The quality of the current ArmaLite or Eagle Arms, or whatever you wish to call them, is still top notch, better than at least one other brand I could name. You seem to go out of your way with this point about them not being the same company, as if you have something against ArmaLite.
No one is misguided and any knowledgeable person knows the history. If someone is not knowledgeable on the subject of ARs, they probably don't know who Colt or Bushmaster or ArmaLite or Eagle Arms, et al, are, so it doesn't matter. I have rifles by the original ArmaLite and by the current ArmaLite. The quality is comparable to the original. If it doesn't bother me, why does it bother you?

If it's a Colt, it's a copy of an original ArmaLite.

I am not LARRYG36.

Racing is life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.

If your AR10 is marked Geneseo, IL, it's still an AR10 no matter what some people say.