Verizon To Undercut Google Again, Put V-Cast App Store On Android Phoneshttp://www.businessinsider.com/verizon-app-store-2010-9/comments
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Nice unconstructive useless fanboy comment there Joe! Way to go..
Verizon can do this because it is open - what open also means however is that they can't limit CHOICE - as APPL do.
The Android Market will be on the phones as well, it has to be for the handset maker to be part of the Open Handset Alliance. Verizon customers will simply have an additional 'closed' store to buy from - which I suggest would be a bit stupid because I imagine if you change carrier you won't get any more upgrades to the Apps you've bought.
Developers will go for this sure, but they will also have Apps in the Market - they will be the same apps of course.
The more techie Verizon customer can also choose to root their phone and get rid of the Verizon bloatware completely that way - which a few will do.
Finally, one thing that SAI seems to always forget when trolling about this is that Verizons store will also exist on the iPhone, if it is ever to be available on VZ. Apple need VZ more than VZ need Apple so their phones will be subject to the same VZ requirements as Android phones.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8fa2c87f8b9a6b2a0a0000SAL-eTue, 14 Sep 2010 12:28:56 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8fa2c87f8b9a6b2a0a0000
No Jay Yarrow clearly is talking about user experience here. Here is the full paragraph:
"Another reason ***USERS**** would embrace it? Purchases will go straight on their Verizon bill. From what we hear, Google's payment system is subpar."http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f910c7f8b9a8c27360000just some dudeTue, 14 Sep 2010 11:13:16 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f910c7f8b9a8c27360000
I hope Verizon gets burned by there decision, Google check out rocks. Just another example of a company thinking they can invent a better wheel.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f904b7f8b9a5a7f8b0100addictedTue, 14 Sep 2010 11:10:03 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f904b7f8b9a5a7f8b0100
I think you guys are misunderstanding Jay Yarrow's statement.
His point is that the Google Checkout payment system is subpar from the developers' perspective (hence he mentions having spoken to developers) and not a consumer's perspective.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f8e7f7f8b9a941cd70700damienmargoTue, 14 Sep 2010 11:02:22 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f8e7f7f8b9a941cd70700
Here are some positive suggestions for Verizon: ditch V-Cast, improve call quality, improve data throughput, stop charging for text messages, be a fair company! Not only allow free tethering but teach your users how to use it! Most people with a Droid have no idea what it can do! So teach them instead of keeping them ignorant about the supercomputer in their pocket! This might just earn Verizon millions of new subscribers, happily leaving their old mean companies. Isn't that money in the bag?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f8d0e7f8b9ab4269f0000damienmargoTue, 14 Sep 2010 10:56:14 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f8d0e7f8b9ab4269f0000
This is awful. Verizon is so far in the dark that they are grasping onto this hopeful revenue stream in an arena that is clearly not theirs. Verizon please give up trying to write software and please do not junk up and cripple my phone. Haven't you learned your lesson yet? It's time to stop misleading people and ripping them off for text messages. Educating people will go a lot further for your bottom line in the long run, such as important tips like this: V-Cast is a joke.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f8c847f8b9ae31d060000jordangsuTue, 14 Sep 2010 10:53:55 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f8c847f8b9ae31d060000
Competition is good, Apple should learn from this example where Google isn't fighting to be the only app market available for their platform users.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f86c57f8b9a3f338d0000KFCTue, 14 Sep 2010 10:29:25 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f86c57f8b9a3f338d0000
Carrier billing would obviously be a huge plus, I don't think credit card processing and payment really gets that much easier.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f86907f8b9a7b1c390100KFCTue, 14 Sep 2010 10:28:32 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f86907f8b9a7b1c390100
Sounds about right. I've used google checkout and it was really easy... pretty much 1 touch app ordering.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f84db7f8b9a1832940600joeinmiamiTue, 14 Sep 2010 10:21:14 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f84db7f8b9a1832940600
Hey dude, it's an "open platform", remember?
If you take away the only argument that Fandroids have left, the pissing match will be one-sided.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f84bf7f8b9a026d640200Myriad46Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:20:47 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f84bf7f8b9a026d640200
I congratulate you for doing some research, however...
"...a report from Skyhook Wireless that said, "Google Checkout is a major concern for developers, 43% report that they would sell more apps if Android used a carrier billing or another simpler billing system." "
How could they even verify this number? Seems a little fishy. Also, Skyhook Wireless is an independent company that only has a couple of Android Apps themselves. Not CNet or CNN.
Verizon App store is a bad idea. They are just money-grubbing. After already paying $30/month for a data plan, they require you to add on V-Cast ($10/month) to use some services, such as Live streaming of NFL games, for example. Just more nickle and diming.
I think a lot of complaints are from people that don't seem to understand that the easiest way to use Android is through Google's native programs. Try being satisfied with an iphone without using itunes. Good luck! Google checkout couldn't be more seamless.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f80da7f8b9acb19390d00SAL-eTue, 14 Sep 2010 10:04:10 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f80da7f8b9acb19390d00
Ok. But have you try Google Market Place and Google Check-out your self?
If you did, write your personal experiences. How about a step by step comparison with iTunes process.
If developers have a problem with Google Check-out they should talk to Google, not to the media.
Off-course Android could benefit from simplified billing system, so the iPhone. But the only difference is if developer publicly complain about iTunes they will be band by Apple. No wonder that only small minority iPhone developers have the integrity to speak up.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f78397f8b9a7322d70600DinoTue, 14 Sep 2010 09:27:21 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f78397f8b9a7322d70600
Does that mean that the defult Android Market is going away if verizon does do this? I sure hope not... I'd be pissed!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f76c97f8b9a371a310000Jay YarowTue, 14 Sep 2010 09:21:13 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f76c97f8b9a371a310000
I base that statement on talking to developers, and a report from Skyhook Wireless that said, "Google Checkout is a major concern for developers, 43% report that they would sell more apps if Android used a carrier billing or another simpler billing system."http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f737d7f8b9aa646650400UserTue, 14 Sep 2010 09:07:08 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f737d7f8b9aa646650400
Verizon app store means NONE of the apps that directly/indirectly compete with their expensive services will get approved (see apple & att). Is that freedom of choice? I don't think so. Some people seem to forget that majority of Android buyers are techies that always look to make their phones more productive, and flexible. VZ app store means all those features will be available, but at the high price.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f70c17f8b9ae02f7f0000SAL-eTue, 14 Sep 2010 08:55:29 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f70c17f8b9ae02f7f0000
The key quote is "From what we hear, Google's payment system is subpar."
Translation: I never try it my self, but I am going to spread rumors just to advance my personal agenda:
1. Start today's flame war in order to generate more clicks.
2. Boost my ego for using iPhone.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f6a527f8b9a7f1f8c0700RyanTue, 14 Sep 2010 08:28:02 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c8f6a527f8b9a7f1f8c0700
I am not sure about that comment about Google's payment system being subpar. I simply had to have a google checkout account set-up - which was easy. Logged into it, and bam - purchased. Their terms are actually better than Apple's. If you buy the app and don't like it, you can get a refund within 24 hours, so I don't see how this is subpar.
The experience was no different than using itunes! I actively use both...