I'll agree with you for now but i'm convinced the vita games will get better. i have only picked up 2 games for my vita uncharted and AC. I started to get cod buts a friend let my mess around with his and it's not for me.

I still cannot get my head round how nintendo just keeps dominating even tho it is very clear there hardware is the weakest. How someone will see a PSP2 with all the high-end features and games and still go for the DS.

Except superior tech and better graphics don't change the fact Nintendo games have much larger audience and more fans than Sony games. Something you are not comprehending for some reason. You cannot play Mario or Zelda on a Vita. People buy Nintendo hardware for MARIO AND ZELDA, not silicon chips on a PCB.

It's funny that a lot of people think games are for kids and hears you making comments about adult games.

Gamers play games so why would you make such dumb comments about rubbish, adult games etc? surely a true gamer who plays games can see the positive and flaws in any system and not limit themselves to one system, and if they did they would not make such immature, angry comments.

Gamers do play games which is why it is outselling the Vita which is a good system but clearly it's not offering them the experience or games people are looking for just as the psp was games from your ps2. why buy two of the same game?

Additionally, dont make a handheld and price it higher than your console.

If they think the 3DS is better just because it sold tons more, then by that logic, they would also think that Black Ops 2 is the best game ever to be released. It's not so funny when it happens to something you don't like, is it?

The 3DS librabry and Vita library are completely different I would say the Vita library is for a more mature gamer with FIFA, Assasins Creed, Black ops etc.. While 3DS has your obvious candidates of Mario and co.

Sony alone is not to blame. Lets not forget some of those games are from 3rd party developers ( Crapcom, er Capcom for Monster Hunter, Square Enid for Final Fantasy). There doesn't. Seem to be enough. 3rd party support for the Vita. That and Nintendo first party support is what making 3ds sell.well. Sony is trying but what also Vita is more 3rd party support and GOOD 3rs party games.

The problem is 3rd party developers are not getting games for Vita until it sells more, but Vita cannot sell without the games. And cut the price on the Vita as well ( especially.those overpriced memory cards) . Sony is trying despite financial troubles, but they cannot do it alone. More developers need to get behind the PS Vita...

But don't forget Sony is still supporting the PSP in the Land of the Rising Sun. That is why a lot of the 3rd party developers have no incentive to move the games they are developing for the PSP onto the Vita and not all of those games are Vita compatible and if they are (available by PSN) no one knows about it because they are not advertised as such.

Look at what Ninty did with the DS, once the 3DS was released. They stopped supporting the DS. Sony needs to make the same decision. This 10 year life cycle support thing may be showing its drawbacks. The Vita after all is their present and future product and not the PSP.

I don't know anyone that owns a 3ds. All the kids I knew who played on the DS have now all switched to either ipod touch's or ipads.

Of course, I don't know anyone that owns a maserati either and I see Honda Civic's everywhere, but I don't read into that that Maserati's in trouble and Honda Civic's are the only way to go. Not saying you're saying that. Just sayin'.

Except Maseratti's don't cost 80 dollars more than Civics and aren't the only other car in competition with Honda and still getting royally beaten. . .in their own home country. Not saying you're saying that. Just sayin'

I don't know anybody who owns either in the UK at least. Both are selling pretty bad. Piracy helped shift the old DS a TON last generation as everybody bought there kid a DS and an R4 card or similar. It was the cheapest option for gaming.

The whole too expensive to develop was BS. They can't develop MH for ps3 yet they did 2 Resident Evils about 6 fighting games, Dragons Dogma, Lost Planet, Devil May Cry among others. Humm kind of weird don't you think.

Just needs to restructure how it sells the vita. The first step would be to drop the asanine prices of the mandatory memory card. I still love my beautiful beast of a vita, even more when ps plus drops for vita.

why are these in comparison with one another. of course the 3ds is going to destroy other handhelds in sales. They came out with the 3ds a year ahead of the vita and I'm betting the most of those sales are people upgrading from a regular ds. Nintendo already had a huge customer base in the handheld market and sony is just now trying to break in. honesly comparing a 3ds and a vita is like comparing a ford escort to a lamborgini. They are both cars and can get you places but they arent in the same league really.

Really? Lambo's cost cost 80 dollars more than Fords these days? Fords and Lambos are the only dedicated cars available in the market these days? Please don't make stupid comparisons just so that you try make the Vita seem so much better than the 3DS. Now that the 3DS is dominating the VITA suddenly they aren't competing handhelds anymore? Suddenly VITA exists on some higher out of reach plain on it's own?? Gimme a break!

I never said those were the only cars in the world. But I bet ford escorts sold a lot more cars than lambos, but which one is the better car? That was my point. Just because one item does better in sales does'nt mean its a better product. Imagine in hard economic times everyone goes to the cheaper solution for on the go gaming, however people like me choose to invest the extra into more powerful and overall better equiptment because I value quality over cheap and easy. And honestly nintendo and sony have never really been pointed to the same demographic. Nintendo aims at children tween and the casual gamer. Sony and microsoft aim for older demographics and adults, who generally require more sophisticated hardware to be impressed. So I feel my comparison is pretty valid.

@jamieL

Sorry about your accident . I ride too thats gotta suck. but nobody asked which one was better. I know which one is better its just not the one that sells the best. I understand they are in competition but it seems rediculous to me to because its like comparing apples to oranges. DS sells better because its cheaper and more well known, thats the bottom line really. That doesnt equate to its the better of the two.

But see what he's saying is no matter how much more powerful the Vita is than the 3DS it doesn't put them in different categories, they are competing, if you can call this a competition. I don't care if the 3DS did come out a year earlier, since Vita dropped, 3DS sold more in the same amount of time. There's no way around it, the people want the 3DS more. What sucks is right before Vita came out I was in a motorcycle accident and lost the use of my right (dominate) arm, so I don't get to play either damn it. So quit bitching about what one is better and be f#%king thankful you're ABLE to even play anything.

identity crisis One of the major problems with the Vita is that Sony still haven't figured out what they want the Vita to be. The people who buy a 3ds knows exactly what they're buying into and the type of support they're getting.

The Vita is superior to the 3ds in so many ways with a lot of potential, but Sony don't know how to properly support it or convince 3rd party devs to commit.

One more thing ... I've noticed that this is the only time people compare the vita and 3ds. When they review or talk about upcoming games they NEVER compare them. Vita gets compared to ps3 or Xbox. 3ds get compared toooooo nothing really just a review of the game or whatever.

Once again, how would it "Kill" in sales when the lineup on 3ds outnumbers the psv 5-1 NOT INCLUDING. backwards compatibility?

And as to your question: game reviewers review games as they are. Those vita games(the ones that are reviewed poorly) are inferior or smaller packet samples of console games. They are directly modeled after them and not well enough to stand beside them, which is why they receive low scores. The platform has nothing to do with it and shouldn't anyway.

maybe 3DS games are better for mobile gaming just like phone games are. pick up and play games appeal to a wider casual audience than cut down console campaigns. the 3ds is more casual/non-gamer-friendly. the vita is very specialised. i think there is still a market for such a device but just not as big a market.

Ok maybe kill was an overstatement but it would compete. Also ss4? Mario? Kingdom hearts? These are console game that couldn't stand side by side with its console. Strangely ss4 gotta 8.9 for 3ds on ign but SFxT gets a 6??? Vitas take on porting sf was far beyond 3ds but the scores are far off. At the end of the day they are competing handhelds (I love them both btw) and while 3ds has a head start the vita is more advanced than the system. If they lower the price it will compete no question.

"Ill say this, vita price cut that = 3ds current price would kill the 3ds."I would have to disagree. While i understand the thought behind your point you seem to miss out on a very important aspect. 3ds has what the vita does not. direct play for bc titles.

while it may not be the intention for someone to buy into a new system to play old games, you cant deny the benefit it offers. Vita and Bc is purely digital and for someone like myself who has a psp and a slew of UMD games, it offers me nothing in that regard.

As someone like me who also has a ds the 3ds can play my library of games just fine. a price cut would certainly spark interest but the overall problem sony is facing is managing multiple platforms at the same time.

If anything, nintendo has the ds and 3ds which the 3ds would likely outpace the ds. We are seeing the 3ds sales increase because it can do what the ds does AND more. We could see a similar trend with the wii-u but that is still to be determined.

So in my view, sony is like sega. Sega had at one time 6 platforms on the market AT THE SAME TIME. That was increasingly difficult to support. Sony right now has 4 which they really should change their focus to the only top 2 that are the ones they want to move forward (PS3 and vita).

They just dont know when enough is enough or more importantly, how to price things like digital psp games to be more disposable to people as an incentive to get the vita. The new ps+ will have some effect on the sales but we still will have the issue of them competing with themselves by continuing to support platforms that are past their prime.

A price cut (and free memory card) would definitely help the Vita sell more but I believe at this point in time that no one can outdo the king of handheld gaming.

Ninty has been entrenched in the market for decades, that its automatic for people to buy their handheld gaming devices by just brand knowledge alone.

@darthv72

I agree with your statement about Sony supporting a product that is well past its prime. Continuing to support the PSP is hurting the Vita, especially in Japan. I think Sony believes they can do a PS2-PS3 scenario were the PS2 sold for years after the PS3 was released before dropping off. They should realize that the situation of the PSP-PSV is different. Very different.

i have both the vita and a 3ds and love them both but honestly "the 3ds having more games" is bs from nintendo fangeeks . only games i have for my 3ds are re:revelations and sm.3ds.land honestly i dont care for anything else its shovelware. same for vita i have gravity rush and need for speed most wanted and many ps1 games and minis. please fangeeks dont make it seem as if the 3ds is sooo much bette than the vita, like i say, i have them both and they are both great. they both have their own great gemes only difference i see is the price. THAT is whats hurting the vita . but the vitas price is understandable its more sleek and has more features and power thats what most parents dont understand or care about just price .

These are Japanese numbers. The library in Japan is incredible with several big name titles. Here? Better than vita, but not that by that much and with few big hits. Those Japanese games are coming however, with even more yet to even be released in Japan.

And while the vita has minis and psp/ps1 games, the 3ds has several vc and eshop exclusives as well. Along with FULL backwards compatibility with all we games.

So yes, the Vita has far fewer games. Wether you like them is a matter of opinion, but that is the truth; the 3Ds has a much larger library

yea you are right the 3ds is backwards compatible wit ds but then i didn't buy a 3ds to play ds games on it i want to play 3ds games on my 3ds. re.revelations is a gorgeous game just wish other devs would push the hardware like capcom did sadly they dont so u get ds ports with the 3d gimmick on your 3ds . thats the type of crap there is . i do have a few eshop games too those are cool but thats it . and you forgot the vita has the whole psp library not just ps1 and minis just one question do you own a vita?

Great sales, Nintendo. I'd like some better games though. This Paper Mario sucks and Adventure Time is the only game I want.

People keep saying the Vita needs more games, but I bought four Vita games in the past two weeks. Also, PS Plus comes to Vita next week. Again, give me more reasons to keep my 3DS Nintendo. You're doing a great job of selling your system, but as a gamer, I'm more interested in playing video games.

The Vita just launched earlier this year in the states and in Europe. The media just needs to give it some time and quit always saying the Vita is dying. Not to hate on the 3DS, but so far what I see is more of the same as last generation and the generation before that.

Has anyone seen that 3DS commercial that featured that fashion designer and at the end of the commercial, she says her name and that "She's not a gamer, but with her 3DS, she can style all she want". What I'm saying is, so far I'm seeing some shovelware being released on the 3DS as of now and that Nintendo is doing the same tactics as they did for the DS. Sony on the other hand is trying to cater towards the hardcore still, but there are some titles that cater towards the casual gamer, but mostly the "real gamers" are getting in on a treat with the Vita.

Of course the Vita has casual games on it, but what I was saying was that the 3DS was showing those shovelware titles here in the states. Now in Japan, the real reason why the 3DS is outselling the Vita is because of Monster Hunter, Maro, and Pokemon. Once the Vita gets a killer game in Japan like Final Fantasy X remastered in HD and hopefully a Dragon's Quest or Monster Hunter on their own, then maybe there will be a different tide in sales, but until then, the 3DS has what Japan wants to play.