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I haven't caught any Texans games prior to this one.. how'd they get that record? Must be an off game, but if they play like this in the playoffs I wouldn't mind seeing them go against the Patriots again...

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Originally Posted by creb

It's strange. I don't think I've ever met a Texans fan in real life.

One of my weirdo friends from high school is one, despite growing up in New England during the Brady era... He's at the game, perhaps reconsidering his loyalties...

If I'm a Texans fan, I'm thinking better to have this now than later. The Texans just seemed off the entire night. Schaub was off passing the ball, the receivers dropped some passes that weren't too hard to catch, the offensive line didn't play very well, and the defense kept giving up big plays and didn't get that much pressure on Brady the majority of the night. They melted against the Packers earlier in the season at home too. We'll see what kind of team this is when the playoffs start. Still not ready to call them pretenders yet.

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More like the Texans jsut making all their own mistakes an constantly giving the Patriots gifts. A lot of the problems really didn't come from the Patriots "dismantling them" (perhaps on defense, but the Texans did have some good defensive outings throughout the middle portion of the game, but then just lost it I think when things got out of reach) but more so to do with mistakes and too many oppurtunities given to the Pats.

- The bogus Defensive pass interference call that extended a drive and lead to 7 for the Pats.
- The Texan that couldn't recover the forced fumble when the Pats where ins coring range. eventually led to 7
- Matt Shaubb just being off throwing the ball all night, forced a double coverage INT on a likely scoring drive.
- Walter, who has been an amazing catcher, drops the 4th down catch conversion

So yeah I'd call it an off game that turned out the way it did more so because of the Texans own faults rather than simply the Patriots dismantling them, although I think it is still a fair opinion to call it a dismantlement. It's just not what I thought of it. The Patriots are a team that capatilizes on other team's mistakes very well, and of course they are amazing at home in the month of December.

It was a hard fought game and all players were in top shape. I wish the NFL had more players meeting the physical fitness standards of the Annapolis and West Point guys; the only beef I have with American football is how some obese guys are admitted on the team. In any sport, I just have a hard time calling a displine a sport if there are players who would be labelled as "out of shape" in normal life.

Schaub was off passing the ball, the receivers dropped some passes that weren't too hard to catch, the offensive line didn't play very well, and the defense kept giving up big plays and didn't get that much pressure on Brady the majority of the night. Still not ready to call them pretenders yet.

I wouldn't call them pretenders, but they just don't seem to have the talent of a number one seed, at least in my opinion. As for the defense, the defensive line actually put a lot of pressure on Brady last night if I recall, it was just that the secondary was doing so bad that Brady could basically lob it up there for a touchdown. Granted this was early though, in the 3rd quarter Brady was something like 2-12 passing to start so the secondary actually got better as the game went on.

As much as I want to say this was a dismantling, at the same time it really wasn't. It was really like 3 or 4 plays that basically made the game be so one sided, if those plays go the other way we may have been looking at a very different final score right now.

It was a hard fought game and all players were in top shape. I wish the NFL had more players meeting the physical fitness standards of the Annapolis and West Point guys; the only beef I have with American football is how some obese guys are admitted on the team. In any sport, I just have a hard time calling a displine a sport if there are players who would be labelled as "out of shape" in normal life.

Yeah, it's not that simple. These guys aren't just admitted on a team.

I used to be into Army vs Navy. Then Navy won. And won. And won. And won. And..

Rivalries stop being compelling when it's as lopsided as this one has been for the last umpteen years.

As far as the NFL goes, the popular money has to be on the Patriots or Broncos vs...well, to be honest, I don't know that there's any particularly strong NFC team ahead of the pack, regardless of the records some of those teams have.

It was a hard fought game and all players were in top shape. I wish the NFL had more players meeting the physical fitness standards of the Annapolis and West Point guys; the only beef I have with American football is how some obese guys are admitted on the team. In any sport, I just have a hard time calling a displine a sport if there are players who would be labelled as "out of shape" in normal life.

Obese players are always on the line and they have to have both strength and endurance. Not every obese guy is as physically powerful and quick as an obese guy in the NFL, not even close, nor has as much muscle mass (even if it's paired with fat). They could lose weight if they switched their diet, but in their case they would not necessarily want to and will pack on as many pounds as possible while still remaining physically capable.

As far as the NFL goes, the popular money has to be on the Patriots or Broncos vs...well, to be honest, I don't know that there's any particularly strong NFC team ahead of the pack, regardless of the records some of those teams have.

If those were my only two choices then, I would go with the Patriots.
Reason: Tom and the Pat's already beat Manning and Broncos once, I think they could do it again.

I think the worst part of that loss for the Texans was that the coach gave up on them with a whole quarter of football left. That's not a coach who believes in his team.

In what way? By pulling the starters? I'm sorry, but if the other team is up a good 4 TDs over you, and it's not a shootout, there's zero reason to keep the starters in at that point. All you do is risk injury.