Re: Need A Great Organic Cruelty- Free Mens Cologne????

Re: Need A Great Organic Cruelty- Free Mens Cologne????

If you go for L'Occitane, Eau Des Baux is probably their best offering. Its spicy woody scent with excellent longevity.
I also like their Vetiver, which is green fragrance but doesnt last as long as Eau Des Baux.

Re: Need A Great Organic Cruelty- Free Mens Cologne????

I don't "get" why anyone would want such a thing and I have a lot of vegan friends. I do live in a city filled with people that think they must and I support their decisions. We all make choices but a little bit of knowledge will scare some people if they actually think and learn a bit. One organic pesticide is so toxic that I wont go near it and would choose a chemical over it any day. Organic does not always mean safer or better. Sometimes karma will run right over the top of dogma. But it sounds good. Ths link might lead you to some sources though. Hope you have success in your search.http://my.chicagotribune.com/#story/...tural-perfume/

Re: Need A Great Organic Cruelty- Free Mens Cologne????

There are numerous recipes for Hungary Water around on the internet. You could blend one from dried herbs using Everclear, Vodka or the like. Then you would know for certain it was free from, assuming the alcohol was organic and cruelty free of course.

Re: Need A Great Organic Cruelty- Free Mens Cologne????

Re: Need A Great Organic Cruelty- Free Mens Cologne????

I thought all the testings were done during the focus group meetings.. that's why none of us liked any of them seemingly beloved by everybody else

On Sillage:

If someone can smell me at more than an arm's length away, I'm probably wearing too much of whatever I applied; if she can distinctly make out the top notes, then perhaps I left the house a bit too soon..

On icebreaker:

I tend to compliment people on their frags to make short talks rather than anything more meaningful.

Re: Need A Great Organic Cruelty- Free Mens Cologne????

I'm sorry to be critical, but to me this is a really silly request.

It's easy for someone to say they want a "cruelty free, no animal testing product." After all, who's in FAVOR of cruelty? But what do you mean by "cruelty" in this context? The reality is that the ingredients in cologne are all tested on animals before they can be used, either by the company using the ingredient or by an independent lab in the past, and that's a government requirement by United States FDA (and every other government). And the reality is that lots of ingredients in most colognes come from animals, from civet to ambergris to a host of other animal byproducts.

And why is it "cruel" just because an ingredient originally came from an animal? Ambergris is harvested by obtaining it from the top of the ocean and from certain beaches, not by killing whales. How is that cruel?

Now, if what you're looking for is an end product not tested on animals, that's a big list. Many, if not most, companies don't do animal testing of end products any more. If you go to PETA's website, for example, there are numerous postings about fragrance companies that do not animal test. I know that Thierry Mugler and Tom Ford are often mentioned, and many others, too.

I am not denigrating those that are in favor of animal rights. But a phrase like "cruelty free" is one of those that sounds great, but has little intrinsic meaning. In fact, the original post originally defined "cruelty free" as being synonymous with "no animal testing," then in response to a question agreed that it actually meant no animal testing and "not using note from animal." These are two very different things.

Again, I apologize for coming off as snarky. I haven't had my coffee yet today, and my intent is not to offend anyone. I can always be educated, too, if I'm incorrect. But it really annoys me when people use phrases like "cruelty free" or (and don't get me started on this one) "homeopathic" without an understanding of what they really mean.

Re: Need A Great Organic Cruelty- Free Mens Cologne????

Originally Posted by barclaydetolly

I'm sorry to be critical, but to me this is a really silly request.

It's easy for someone to say they want a "cruelty free, no animal testing product." After all, who's in FAVOR of cruelty? But what do you mean by "cruelty" in this context? The reality is that the ingredients in cologne are all tested on animals before they can be used, either by the company using the ingredient or by an independent lab in the past, and that's a government requirement by United States FDA (and every other government). And the reality is that lots of ingredients in most colognes come from animals, from civet to ambergris to a host of other animal byproducts.

And why is it "cruel" just because an ingredient originally came from an animal? Ambergris is harvested by obtaining it from the top of the ocean and from certain beaches, not by killing whales. How is that cruel?

Now, if what you're looking for is an end product not tested on animals, that's a big list. Many, if not most, companies don't do animal testing of end products any more. If you go to PETA's website, for example, there are numerous postings about fragrance companies that do not animal test. I know that Thierry Mugler and Tom Ford are often mentioned, and many others, too.

I am not denigrating those that are in favor of animal rights. But a phrase like "cruelty free" is one of those that sounds great, but has little intrinsic meaning. In fact, the original post originally defined "cruelty free" as being synonymous with "no animal testing," then in response to a question agreed that it actually meant no animal testing and "not using note from animal." These are two very different things.

Again, I apologize for coming off as snarky. I haven't had my coffee yet today, and my intent is not to offend anyone. I can always be educated, too, if I'm incorrect. But it really annoys me when people use phrases like "cruelty free" or (and don't get me started on this one) "homeopathic" without an understanding of what they really mean.

Cruelty free can differ depending on who you speak to. When purchasing products, I look for companied that don't test ingredients, or final products, nor do they outsource this, and they are not owned by a company that does animal testing and don't include animal derived ingredients. Others will only focus on final procuct, and some will have some combination. Further,

In reality, the FDA does not require/mandate companies to test on animals for cosmetics, including colognes.