Good afternoon, listeners! We’re back with another great podcast this week, as host Richard Aldous speaks with Ross Douthat about his new book, To Change the Church: Pope Francis and the Future of Catholicism.

Ross Douthat is an opinion columnist for The New York Times. In his latest book, published by Simon & Schuster in March, Douthat takes a critical look at the Francis papacy, arguing that the pope’s controversial stewardship of the Church could ultimately lead to a schism.