Comments on: The Nationals can’t pay for late Metro service because of … MLB policy?http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/10/the-nationals-cant-pay-for-late-metro-service-because-of-mlb-policy/
Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball.Tue, 03 Mar 2015 21:02:07 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoohttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/10/the-nationals-cant-pay-for-late-metro-service-because-of-mlb-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-362237
Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:30:46 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=211325#comment-362237The point is that people who do not live near the park may not realize that Metro shuts down early and walk out of the park with no means of transportation to get to their home or hotel. When left to their own devices to arrange transportation, they are more likely to wander about looking for a cab, bus etc in a neighborhood they are not familiar with, and have an increased liklihood of stumbling upon one of the mugger havens you describe. You live there, so you know which blocks and underpasses to avoid. Some tourist from St. Louis may not, and would be more likley to stumble upon trouble if he had to find his own way home because the Metro stopped running.
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Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:11:52 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=211325#comment-362069Going all populist here – and I realize this is a site for sports talk – but before DC puts any money into late Metro trains for Nats game, WMATA should open the goddamn system earlier. How many people know that the trains don’t start running until 7am on Saturday? All us blue collar people have to take taxis to work. I am serious. Also, if you’ve ever tried to Metro to the airport for an early flight, you know how irritating that is!

That, and only that, is the one thing about DC Metro that infuriates me. Other cities can do it. DC is largely a poor, working-class city, so what was the thinking about Saturdays and Metro?

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Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:06:37 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=211325#comment-362068Actually, compared to Chicago, especially, the DC Metro is the greatest thing, ever. It’s clean, trains run frequently (when it’s open), and the stations are large and attractive. Only people from the suburbs who commute into DC during peak rush hour, and hipsters who jam the Red Line hate the Metro, because it’s crowded. I feel for them, but if you work in the city, why don’t you move to the city? The biggest excuse I hear is that people like all the space they have in the suburbs, but they don’t use it or need it, they pay through the nose for it, and they lose hours of their lives commuting everyday. Sorry for the slight digression, but you’re just wrong: the Metro is great for those who need to get around DC. It’s not meant to support a gigantic workforce of people who irrationally want to live 30 miles away from where they work.
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Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:02:31 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=211325#comment-362067In fact (I live about 10 minutes’ walk from Nats Park), several people *have* been beaten and mugged in the neighborhood recently, specifically after night games. But as alang3131982 correctly asks, what has that to do with Metro? The people who have been victims of crime in DC after ballgames were walking home, going over or under the expressway and back to SE DC or Capitol Hill, or to the bars on 8th St. They weren’t trying to find a Metro station.

I think the Nats and DC Police should try to monitor New Jersey Ave., especially where it goes under the expressway, and 2nd St. where it goes under 395, and the city could do a better job in general of seeing that folks get safely out of the Navy Yard. As it is, the crowd is pretty much gone 15-20 minutes after game time and it gets pretty spooky walking home at 10:30 at night past dark alleys, with only two or three other people in sight.

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Tue, 11 Sep 2012 02:17:00 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=211325#comment-362032Not if the attractive prostitutes shut down at midnight.
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Tue, 11 Sep 2012 02:03:50 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=211325#comment-362028Philadelphia’s subways shut down after midnight (although there is overnight bus service in place of the trains), but SEPTA’s web site says without qualification that there will be trains waiting for passengers after sporting events end. Perhaps they do run trains after the normal shutdown time to get everybody home.
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Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:47:56 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=211325#comment-361965Actually, it’s Rizzo who shuts down Metro at midnight on weekdays.

[Hey, if I’m gonna get trolled about this for the next God knows how long, I’m gonna have a little fun with it. :)]

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Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:27:05 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=211325#comment-361948True, though it’s unclear how much of this is MLB HQ not wanting teams to pick up tabs, and how much is MLB HQ cover the Lerners’ unwillingness to pick up the tab. After all, in their real estate development model, getting others to pay as much as possible is a good thing.

I like how the Lerners have (at least, after their first year of ownership) supported the front office’s efforts, which have yielded one of MLB’s best organizations. But when it comes to the business side, I don’t have the greatest trust in them.

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Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:59:36 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=211325#comment-361930Wouldn’t games they lose tend to take longer than games they win, what with having to play the bottom of the ninth?
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Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:57:30 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=211325#comment-361929True, forgot about those pesky time zones. Not sure how much of an issue it is in Baltimore or Philly or Pittsburgh, where there are transit options not far from the ballpark. Though the transit systems in Baltimore and Pittsburgh aren’t nearly as extensive as Washington’s.
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Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:51:46 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=211325#comment-361926We’ve already established that they aren’t going to do that.
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Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:50:55 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=211325#comment-361924Those people from VA and MD are spending their money in DC. Sometimes you have to give a little to get a little.
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Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:40:42 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=211325#comment-361916Mass transit requires mass ridership to be efficient.

I like the idea of 24 hour service too. But what if it costs $20 per rider? How much are you willing to pay per capita before you say, we just can’t subsidize such a small number of people? You don’t send a train to pick up six people. You send a cab.

New York is great because no matter what you’re talking about, a zillion people are doing it. There’s a market for anything. But it’s not typical.

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Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:35:31 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=211325#comment-361914or how about this: the Nationals pay to add some late trains
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Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:30:05 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=211325#comment-361913The ferry in San Francisco leaves 15 minutes after the game ends on days when there is a baseball game. I wonder who pays for that. I’m guessing it’s just the ferry company trying to get one last full boat in for the day.
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Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:19:15 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=211325#comment-361909Of course, it bears repeating that the only that sucks more than the D.C. Metro is an ugly prostitute.
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Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:14:56 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=211325#comment-361906this is just more proof that fans don’t want instant replay
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Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:41:12 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=211325#comment-361890>>DC taxpayers still have bloodstains in their shorts from paying for the stadium<<

That's incorrect. The only "tax" involved is in house. That is,the only people who pay a tax related to the park are those who attend a game.

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Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:18:46 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=211325#comment-361881Caltrain sometimes keeps an extra, later train after events in San Francisco for people who want to head back to Silicon Valley afterwards. I dunno who pays for it. Who knows who pays for anything in California?

I also recall from going to a couple of Mets games that they make sure to have extra trains around afterwards. Dunno who pays for that, either.

This is the exact description I was given of what not to do when I first moved to New York, as these behaviors tend to alert muggers of an easy target.

I am not saying that the individuals lack personal responsibility for their well-being. At the same time, an abundance of minnows will attract sharks.

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Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:02:28 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=211325#comment-361871Umm, why does the lack of metro lead to tourists getting mugged?
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Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:01:51 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=211325#comment-361870Why does that amaze you? You realize New York City is a completely different city, with far different demographics and amounts of citizens. Somethings are profitible or stomachable (very few, if any, transit systems make money) in one locale that arents in others.

Not having transit late at night does not implicitly encourage drunk driving. Everyone knows when transit closes. It is a person’s responsibility to get home safely. it’s not the government’s job to get further into debt to ensure a handful of idiots dont drive drunk.

If a “real city” runs trains 24/7, how many real cities are in the world? isnt it actually outside the norm for a city to run trains 24/7, considering the majority of the top media markets/biggest metro areas dont have 24/7 public transit service.

in addition, Metro is in such a mess financially, it’d be totally ridiculous for them to extend hours for several baseball games at most…

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Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:49:33 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=211325#comment-361860Let me get this straight. The Metro shuts down at midnight and Strasburg shuts down at 160 innings. I think Rizzo runs the Metro..
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Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:45:21 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=211325#comment-361856I hope it doesn’t take some tourists getting mugged and beaten for lack of safe transportation to fully address this situation.

Who paid for the swanky new MetroNorth station connected to Yankee Stadium? (I’m sure there is not a simple answer to that question.)

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Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:44:46 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=211325#comment-361854Obligatory obnoxious comment from a Yankees fan: If your city’s trains stop running altogether at whatever o’clock — especially if the city’s bars are open later than that — your city should really think about running the trains later. Or just run them 24/7 like a real city and don’t implicitly encourage drunk driving by failing to provide adequate transit options that are more affordable than taking a cab.

This doesn’t only apply to DC, of course. If there’s a rain delay and/or extra innings at Fenway, good luck getting home. I know it’s not cheap to run trains 24/7, but people trying to get to graveyard shift jobs should have options other than driving themselves. It amazes me that New York is still the only city with a 24-hour transit system.

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Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:32:10 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=211325#comment-361842Wow…based upon the number of thumbs downs it is obvious everyone missed Kiwi’s sarcasm awareness training.
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The thumbs up and/or down tend to reflect most peoples “penisheadedness”.
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