I have heared in the past several times in the chat, that due to licensing reasons Miku cards won't be released ever again (I am opening this thread with the assumption this rumor is truth). Well .. I can understand that such things happen, but there is one problem I have with this.

I am the opinion that in a card game, where balance is on the level of total cards/ decks facing each other, any subtype/card that is only achievable once and never again, is going to create a long term balance issue. No this is not a nerf thread and i dont say you should worsen these or those miku cards (infact we could discuss buffing some ).I am talking about card avaibility. If a certain subpopulation recieve access to certain options which are not accessable, this wont be fair and also your new willing to pay clients wont be happy about this.

Ex cards, are ok as you have ways to get them later, even if those are harder. Batora cards are ok (boarderline) cause they come back too once a year. The "fun cards" are ok too cause they have honestly 0 utility in a competive or even a non competetive environment. But that Miku cards should not be released ever again. No thats not ok.

Here the solution I think it would be appropiate:

Rerelease Miku cards with same skills but with another status effect eg dancing instead of singing(to prevent misuse by ppl who have old cards) and other art and of course an other name(to circumvent the legal issues).

Oh good, let us complain about a limited release being limited. Is there any reasoning behind refuting limited availability other than "it's not okay"? Can we officially treat Logress like a dog that needs to be housetrained? You'd get more leeway from taking a newspaper and giving him a good whack if that is the case.

And the card being unavailable unless a miracle occurs is not a "rumour", it is Word of Logress statement from when the cards were first introduced.

Logress wrote: Unlike our other cards, we can't sell or even give them away without a contract with the Hatsune Miku owners, so very likely there will never be another chance to get these cards! You can check them out here. And on the card list, just check for subtype DIVA.

Such a contract has to be issued directly with Crypton Future Media, and before I go on consider Alteil's current financial situation. Miku "Merchandise" extends to cars and concerts, and the only reason we got them was because unlike Alteil US, Alteil JP is actually a lucrative business that can afford such marketing.

Also claiming that availability has any impact on balance is a blatant misuse of the already thoroughly raped card game terminology, even for Alteil standards.

Callonia wrote:However There might be a chance for miku or Negima cards showing up after month of May this year. If alteil somehow attract enough ppls that is.

As one who was lucky enough to get the Miku cards(I only began playing playing because of that event), I would love to see them once again available for other players to obtain sometime in the future. If lucky, they might even add 4 or 5 more while they're at it.

On the issue of balancing, one could even take the reverse view with the same reasoning. "Because these cards won't be available again, it's both safe and fair to give the lucky few who owns them an edge over everyone else. Especially if the cards are to be unplayable in official ranked tournaments, there's absolutely no drawbacks to letting them run rampant in Folrart where winning and losing are inconsequential."

Personally, I'm of the equal opportunity opinion. Common cards need to be usable, but not overly so that a new player can consistently win against more experienced with just a handful of Starter Shields. Strong cards should be somewhat rarer, but not drastically so and only in proportion to their actual usability. Even then, they should eventually, but slowly become easier to obtain and more widely available. Despite being more profitable, new cards shouldn't be so overpowered that they completely overshadow existing cards to the point it actually becomes necessary to use them just to keep up.

In sum, I'd like Miku to be buffed, but I can't condone anything game-shattering unless a re-release becomes possible.

Shirozaki wrote:Oh good, let us complain about a limited release being limited. Is there any reasoning behind refuting limited availability other than "it's not okay"? Can we officially treat Logress like a dog that needs to be housetrained? You'd get more leeway from taking a newspaper and giving him a good whack if that is the case.

And the card being unavailable unless a miracle occurs is not a "rumour", it is Word of Logress statement from when the cards were first introduced.

Logress wrote: Unlike our other cards, we can't sell or even give them away without a contract with the Hatsune Miku owners, so very likely there will never be another chance to get these cards! You can check them out here. And on the card list, just check for subtype DIVA.

Such a contract has to be issued directly with Crypton Future Media, and before I go on consider Alteil's current financial situation. Miku "Merchandise" extends to cars and concerts, and the only reason we got them was because unlike Alteil US, Alteil JP is actually a lucrative business that can afford such marketing.

Also claiming that availability has any impact on balance is a blatant misuse of the already thoroughly raped card game terminology, even for Alteil standards.

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fargone wrote:I realise this is completely off topic, but Icy deserves the limelight more than others. Some of whom dominate the forums with their endless posts.