Scientists test sick Alaska seals for radiation

Trust me, I know well how BP treats the environment. I live on the Gulf Coast in a place we not-so-affectionately call "Toxic City" and drive by
refineries of BP, Valero, Sterling Chemical and Marathon to name a few.

Yep I used to live near Texas City myself... and what a crazy place.... I always hated it when we down there to eat at the food joints there.... the
air was always so putrid...

Originally posted by Maybeboo
When I saw the seal problem on RSOE EDIS in mid October I wondered if they would even be allowed to look at the possibility it was radiation related
(as it sure sounds like it). It has been a while now - at least they are looking, but will they tell the truth?

You are right. This was actually questioned here on ATS back in October.

Super seal vs. Mega shark coming to an ocean near you! Sorry just trying to lighten the mood here. This is so sad I bet the seals in question are
endangered too. The oceans are so vast we may never really understand just how much destruction things like this actually cause. We see the stuff that
washes up on shore and I bet thats less than a percent of the actual die off...

I doubt there is much left in the north pacific that isn't contaminated, let alone the entire world.

We have truly f*d our planet. Wildlife is suffering for our greed and consumerism. And all those kids in Japan - they just had their odds increased of
a future death from cancer. Others as well probably.
I haven't touched anything from the Pacific since the disaster. Unfortunately I can't avoid the air, the local produce, the water...

24/7/365 days a year this destroyed nuclear power plant has been and will be spewing radiation into our world. This is fact. Your posts throughout the
Japan declares nuclear emergency after quake monster thread and in countless other threads documenting this disaster, have been poignant and well
researched. Like you OP, so many of us here have followed, sometimes deeply horrified and sadened, the devastation from this disaster.

Thank you for continuing to share the news as it develops and for those who continue to discuss this understated catastrophy...perhaps because there
is no way to undo what has been done.

A lot of folks along the development and distribution trail all gambled on making money and winning the "industry game" of how to "do nuclear." We
lost.

By July, levels of 137Cs are still more than 10 000 times higher than levels measured in 2010 in the coastal waters off Japan. Although some
radionuclides are significantly elevated, dose calculations suggest minimal impact on marine biota or humans due to direct exposure in surrounding
ocean waters, though considerations for biological uptake and consumption of seafood are discussed and further study is warranted.

I knew it before it was even reported because of google earth. 2 Weeks after the earth quake, if you wear watching google earth weather then you would
have seen the HUGE jet stream change. The jet use to fly threw Japan to California. Now it does some weird 90 degree spiral turn looped around Alaska
and back into japan. It weather modification. Look at google earth with the weather on, if thats not proof of weather manipulation then I do not know
what is .

Biologists said they believe the illness was caused by a virus. Symptoms include sometimes-bleeding lesions on the hind flippers, irritated skin
around the nose and eyes and patchy hair loss on the animals' fur coats.

They said the mystery outbreak may not be limited to ringed seals. Some dead walruses at Point Hope, a village on Alaska's northwest coast, were
found with similar lesions, borough biologists said.

Local hunters also reported finding skin lesions on two bearded seals, the biologists said.

Yet identification of the disease remains elusive, and it was not clear that the lesions found on the walruses were from the same disease that has
afflicted the ringed seals, said Bruce Woods, spokesman for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

"We're kind of in the dark at this point," he said.

The Reuters article in my OP does not mention other animals, but the fact that dead walruses were reported to have had similar lesions indicates that
it is a cross-species problem not limited to seals.

Those who are not blinded are clearly able to see these consequences for what they are.

While this could be radiation damage to the poor seals,it could just be that they have been unlucky enough to have found something nasty that we have
dumped over the years.
We have dumped all manner of chemical weapons into the sea over the decades.
My local sea,between Wales and Ireland is one such dumping ground.

Also,even if the seals are suffering from radiation sickness,there are many other possible culprits other than Fukushima.
Check out the Soviet nuclear lighthouses as one example: englishrussia.com...

You can be more specific and pin it to certain groups who are so power-hungry they will destroy the future for the rest of tomorrow's population. It
isn't all of us to the same degree. The ones who are responsible for the oil spills and nuclear waste catastrophes are those greedy higher ups. It is
worth mentioning that most of us do drive or use plastic products.

But, I didn't have a dang thing to do with any decision made that resulted in those problems, and neither did you...

We're all responsable , the human race.
Those responsable directly, and those indirectly.
The bastards from Exon and BP and Shell and all the power companys who dump crap in seas and pollute the skies and poison the earth.
Those who drive cars, motor bikes or any vehicle that pollutes although transport is a necessarily evil.

And finally ..we.
Those of us who have sat back for the last decades watching all this going on, turning a blind eye, turning over the tv when another oil spill comes
on, skipping it over in the news papers to get to the sports pages.
We are all just as guilty as our doing nothing to prevent it has let it happen.
What can we do you ask...and i have no answer for you.

But while there are those that could have done something and have done nothing amonst us, the we are all to blame as the human race.
It is OUR planet.

No man is an island,
Entire of itself.
Each is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thine own
Or of thine friend's were.
Each man's death diminishes me,
For I am involved in mankind.
Therefore, send not to know
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee.

If they do try to pin the blame on viruses, we all need to remember there are opportunistic viruses out there like different kinds of herpes viruses
(not the sexually transmitted one) and other types of opportunistic viruses like staph that cause lesions that will get a foothold on animals weakened
by something else like radiation or pollution first. It could be all too easy for anyone to point to the presence of an opportunistic virus and say
"See, it's a virus, move along folks, nothing more to be concerned about." The key thing to remember is unstressed animals or humans in healthy
environments will always have some exposure to such viruses or have dormant forms they carry. It's really mainly when animals and people get
stressed through poor environment, advanced age or some other cause that causes their immune systems to become imbalanced that they will not be able
to cope and will fall ill.

So, even if this turns out to not be radiation sickness or a direct reaction to toxins, this cluster of illness is still a signal that something about
the animals' environment IS unhealthy and needs our attention.

Its way worse than we are being told I fear. Dr Caldicott is a Physician and anti nuclear advocate who is probably a foremost expert on nuclear
poisoning and effects . If the seal deaths turns out to be the radiation, it illustrates that the radiation is moving up the food chain,as both seals
and humans are fish eaters. I am a big seafood fan but I think I will not be eating the wild variety any more.

Very sad indeed, I fear it's only a wee bit of what's to come. I remember a thread from a couple weeks ago stating a collapse of #4 which held many
hundreds of fuel rods and the soon forced evacuation of Tokyo and over 1/2 of Japan...

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