Psycho-Babble Faith Thread 497

In reply to To no one in particular - part 1, posted by shar on July 15, 2002, at 23:39:40

First time I read this, it blew me away. Kinda long, fom PHILippians 4.Rejoice in the Lord always: and again I say, Rejoice. Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand.Be careful for nothing; but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.(I'll paraphrase) Finally, whatsoever things are true, honest, just,pure, lovely, or of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.Those things, which you have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.((Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content.I know how to be abased, and I know how to abound:every where and in all things I am instructed to be full and to be hungry, both abound and to suffer need.))I can do all things through Christ which strengheneth me.

Thank you apostle Paul. Those words have meant everything to me. I'm still amazed when I read them.Thanks, Shar for getting me to open this book again.

In reply to To no one in particular - part 1, posted by shar on July 15, 2002, at 23:39:40

Shar, Thank you for mentioning "The wolves in sheep's clothing." I was revealed that the "wolves in sheep's clothing" are people that appear as "shepards", for they have on garments of a shephed, and you would think that they are shepherds by he way they re clothed. So just because a person looks like a shephrd, that doesn't mean that they really are. In fact, they could be ravenous wolves. They also have a "flock" that they are shepherding. So which shepherd is ral and which is a "wolf in sheep's clothing"?I will , next, tell of what I found out abut that.Lou

In reply to Lou, I would love to hear it..., posted by Dinah on July 16, 2002, at 7:38:52

I certainly didn't mean that in any way to tell you where to post or anything. This just seemed like it could be one of those quickly rolling threads that could really perk up the Faith board, and I thought it would be terrific to keep up the momentum.

In reply to The wolves in sheep's clothing » shar, posted by Lou Pilder on July 16, 2002, at 7:32:20

Shar, when I was in the City of Peace, I asked about how we could know the true shepherds from the wolves in sheep's clothing. The Rider turned to us and said, " What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after th one which is lost until he finds it? And when he has found it,he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. And when he comes home he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to thm, "Rejoice with me, for I hae found my sheep which was lost" I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one lost sheep that is found than over ninety-nine sheep that never went astray."Lou

In reply to Re: Lou, one more thing... » Dinah, posted by Lou Pilder on July 16, 2002, at 8:07:04

Of course not. And I apologize profusely if I offended. I suppose I just saw this thread as a swiftly flowing river of favorite quotes, giving rise to tributary threads of discussion. But it's not my thread anyway, and I apologize for my suggestion. And I do see that if you started a new thread now, you would break up the momentum of your own discussion.

In reply to The wolves in sheep's clothing » shar, posted by Lou Pilder on July 16, 2002, at 7:32:20

I like this one a lot too, it contains a good general warning about "face value." Being pretty loose in interpreting it, to me it means anyone who presents an untrue face to the world (not limited to a 'shepherd'). Like one who manipulates situations, or plays dirty, or has a hidden agenda, or feeds on the powerless ones among us, or continues to do something that is obviously hurtful even while saying they only want to help....gee, there are thousands of examples, large and small.

To me, those are all forms of 'evil' to one degree or another. And I think it's cool that god took the time to warn us about it and warns us to "watch" what people do more than listen to their words.

And, of course, when applied to myself, to pay attention to what I DO and how it aligns with what I SAY.

In reply to Re: To no one in particular - part 6, posted by shar on July 16, 2002, at 0:16:36

> And, lest we forget, the golden rule. At least, I think this is the origin of one of them. There are golden rules out the wazoo, actually. Just about every religion has some expression of treating others the way you want to be treated.

In reply to Is it favorite New Testament quotes?, posted by Dinah on July 16, 2002, at 3:20:16

I will let you in on a secret about the online search for Bible quotes. I had the one in mind about 'by your fruits you'll be known' and of course did not know what book/chapter/verse it was in, so...... went to...

www.blueletterbible.org where they have a search engine where you can enter verses, or keywords, and that's what I used. So, I had Matthew 7 open in a window and could refer to it while I wrote the posts.

It wasn't so much a striving for exact quotes and references as it was not wanting to take 3 verses from 2 different books, jumble them up into one verse, post it here and say "that's my favorite." I thought it would be good if it at least had some semblance to what was actually in the Bible.

8-D

(what I'm trying to say is don't worry about exactness, or if you do, the online help might be worth checking out.)

In reply to The wolves in sheep's clothing- part 2, posted by Lou Pilder on July 16, 2002, at 7:44:22

Shar, After we were told by the Rider that a true shepherd will seek any of his flock that have gone astray, one asked the Rider what another characteristic of a true shepherd would be. The Rider turned to us and said. "Let no man deceive you. There is a true shepherd. And that true shepherd gives his life for his sheep." Then He turned again and said to us, "I am the good shepherd; and I know my sheep and I lay down my life for the sheep. And I will seek all those that are lost and no one can take them away from me."Lou

In reply to Re: internet bible research » shar, posted by Dinah on July 16, 2002, at 12:52:09

And from one of my favorite chapters, James. I could probably call the entire book of James my favorite verse.

Just so the tongue is an insignificant organ, but it boasts great things. Look how small a spark sets so mighty a forest ablaze! The very rule of misrule the tongue establishes among our organs: it is the soiler of the whole body and the inflamer of the process of generation, being inflamed itself by Gehenna. Every species of beast and bird, reptile and marine creature, has been tamed by the human species. But the tongue no one can tame: it is an ungovernable evil, saturated with deadly poison. With it we bless the Lord our Father, and equally with it we curse men made in the image of God. Out of the same mouth proceed blessing and cursing. This should not be, my brothers. Does a fountain gush fresh and brackish water from the same vent? Can a fig tree, my brothers, yield olives, or a vine figs? No more can salt water yield fresh. Who among you claims wisdom and sagacity? Let him display his accomplishments by worthy conduct, with the moderation of wisdom.

In reply to Re: Lou, now my heart is heavy.... » Lou Pilder, posted by tabitha on July 17, 2002, at 5:25:26

Tabitha, In 1973 a was in an auto accident and had to have some surgery. The Dr. told me to take a shower before the surgery next morning. While I was on the operating table, the Doctor said, "Did you take a shower this morning?"I said, "Why, is there one missing?"hohoheheLou

In reply to Lou's response to Tabitha's post » tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on July 17, 2002, at 8:45:49

Tabitha, You see, the car that I was in dropped off an overpass and fell 30 feet. I was having some minor surgery and while I was on the operating table, after the Dr. asked me if I took a shower this morning, the nurse then said to me," Are you allergic to anything?"I said,"gravity"Lou

In reply to Lou's response to Tabitha's post-part 2, posted by Lou Pilder on July 17, 2002, at 12:31:50

Tabitha, Then they put an I V in my arm to start the anesthesia. I noticed that there was a fly in the transparrent bag that had the solution in it. I said to the anesthesist, "What is that fly doing in my I V bag?" The anesthesist said to me, "Why it looks like he's doing the back-stroke."Tabitha,are you any happier?Lou