Anyone notice that in the latest pokemon series, Team Rocket lost their comic relief role? They seem more serious and actually complete their missions now...and it's weird that giovanni actually trusts Jessie and James to get the Job done now.

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Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:54 pm

Sleet

Bringing Foxy Back

Joined: Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:32 amPosts: 17061Location: Nephelokokkygia

Re: Cartoons, Anime, whatever you call em!

It's so weird, but I actually love it. It's more like their original role. They were seriously derailed over the last ten years. It's not good when the main source of conflict in the show is just a group of goofy, incompetent rejects. I've also noticed how they seem to be actually succeeding at things now. Since they're given assignments other than "steal this Pokémon" (which is doomed to fail, since it's a kid's show), they can now actually do things right now.

Apparently they're developing a new Looney Tunes show- from what I've seen I have mixed thoughts but I'm willing to be optimistic. On the one hand, the writing and animation are noticeably more polished than most of what's on TV, and it doesn't feel like it's trying too hard. On the other hand the characters seem to be interpreted slightly different than what I've seen before. Let's just wait and see and hope for the best.

"Are you saying this man the president of mexico﻿ is batman?!"I lol'd.The animation looks good, but I rather preffer the old cartoons.

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Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:55 pm

Penwrite

Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:03 amPosts: 3407Location: Canterlot

Re: Cartoons, Anime, whatever you call em!

CaptainPea Wrote:

Apparently they're developing a new Looney Tunes show- from what I've seen I have mixed thoughts but I'm willing to be optimistic. On the one hand, the writing and animation are noticeably more polished than most of what's on TV, and it doesn't feel like it's trying too hard. On the other hand the characters seem to be interpreted slightly different than what I've seen before. Let's just wait and see and hope for the best.

Bugs's voice didn't seem quite right, but Daffy's was very good. I also like the new style of animation, more reminescent of the old cartoons than Loonatics Unleashed but still something that can be set apart. The humor I thought was rather clever, with Daffy's "Bob Jones" line hilarious. Also notably funny was the "Are you saying this man, the president of Mexico...is Batman?" line. Much more clever than a lot of modern cartoons.

Bugs' voice in that clip was just wrong. should have gotten someone who sounded more like Mel Blanc. Daffy's voice was alright, though.

I agree, Bugs worries me because it looks like they're trying to play him as a straight man, which doesn't work.

well, I'm sure they wouldn't change it that much. He was telling Daffy to lie just to mess with him. He wasn't the straight man, he was being the troll he's always been.

I was referring to this video, in which Bugs appears to be on sleeping pills

But I really appreciate the animation, the fact that it's done by hand and so smoothly goes a long way, but I also really like the drop shadows behind the characters. Fr a second I thought they were animating on cels, which was probably the intention.

I agree, Bugs worries me because it looks like they're trying to play him as a straight man, which doesn't work.

well, I'm sure they wouldn't change it that much. He was telling Daffy to lie just to mess with him. He wasn't the straight man, he was being the troll he's always been.

I was referring to this video, in which Bugs appears to be on sleeping pills

But I really appreciate the animation, the fact that it's done by hand and so smoothly goes a long way, but I also really like the drop shadows behind the characters. Fr a second I thought they were animating on cels, which was probably the intention.

Okay, that one seems more like he's the straight man. but my main problem is still the grating quality of his new voice.

He really did seem like the straight main there. But I'm still not worried, because even if it didn't seem exactly like Bugs Bunny, it was still pretty funny. I'll just wait until I see a whole episode to decide.

Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:21 pm

copper

Puppy Wrangler

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Re: Cartoons, Anime, whatever you call em!

Bugs sounds a lot like Daffy in that clip. Is it the same voice artist doing them? It is a strange bugs bunny voice.

The cartoon itself was pretty good. It is a lot like the older ones, in my opinion. Don't kill me on that comment, please.

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It's not just the horrible voice casting (although that doesn't help) it's also the useless or confusing censorship. In one piece, Sanji's cigarrette became a lollipop and smoker(now with changed name despite the fact that he wasn't named for his cigars but for his ability to turn into smoke) talked with his teeth clenched as if he had invisible cigars in his mouth.

See I heard about One Piece from some friends, so I didn't end up watching the dubbed version (very glad I didn't)

The censorship in Digimon's kinda weird because they tried to do it entirely with cuts, so you wind up with a number of parts that don't make a lot of sense. Also punching appears to be fine, but people getting thrown into walls is insta-cut Add to that their inane idea that kids can't handle more than 5 seconds of silence or more than 30 seconds with no jokes and I want to do serious damage to my computer (but it's not he computer's fault so I just rant at it )

I don't mind Funimation sometimes, but whoever did Ed gets like every single boy character between the age of 12 and 17, and I feel like I'm constantly looking for more depth from him. Just a little, but I keep feeling it.

Also, I feel bad I never watched Digimon when I was a kit. I was a stubborn Pokémon fan (I don't regret loving Pokémon) who refused to watch it, and now I feel like I'm missing out on a lot of nostalgia.

Ed, Edd, and etc.The 4kids version of One Piece (eeewwwwww)Fullmetal Alchemist - both subbed and dubbedGurren Lagann (okay that one was stretching it a little.)Pokemon - On a side note, my bro recently had a pokemon movie marathon at his dorm. Their inside joke was "something something time and space". Yes vague, but it had something to do with the newest one.King of the Hill? - I think I did Naruto - stopped soon after (too looooooong)

That's about all I can remember. Does anyone get my brother's inside joke though?

Bugs sounds a lot like Daffy in that clip. Is it the same voice artist doing them? It is a strange bugs bunny voice.

The cartoon itself was pretty good. It is a lot like the older ones, in my opinion. Don't kill me on that comment, please.

Actually yes, same actor.And I like the humor in these clips better than textbook Looney Toones*, actually, mostly because it's a hint drier.The main thing that worries me is, as I said, character interpretations. I need to see a little more lighthearted snarky banter and wit before I can believe that's really Bugs Bunny.

*I'm leaving this spelling mistake here just to let the record show that I can't spell "Tunes"

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Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:23 pm

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Re: Cartoons, Anime, whatever you call em!

my two cents here (I shall only comment about 30 minutes shows):western cartoons: they were good. very good. Teen titans, justice league, Batman, superman, Danny phantom, Delta state, South Park (at least the episodes that didn't insult religion) among several others. I mean, what happened? Flap Jack, chowder, ben 10 (is there antoher cartoon that lost completely the meaning of it's title? And yes. I'm fully prepared for the flames for saying Ben 10 was a bad cartoon. At least after Ben got older the show got better a little, but wait. Unless they decide to give one of the most stupid plot holes of the history, Kevin will tun bad again. I just gave up of that cartoon). I mean, seriously? Have they decided to trying to make new good cartoons? Secret Saturdays WAS good. I mean it. Until they decided to create several stuipid OOC moments What parents in the world, who actually CARED for their children, would allow them to go into mortal danger with just an "okay, then.". I could rage for hours and explain in further details the stupidity of the MODERN and some of the old western cartoons, but let's move foward.

3d/cgi cartoons: Beast wars was e-p-i-c, however it's sequel, Beast Machines, was f-a-i-l for one simple reason: they RUINED Silverbolt and Rhino's characters and for several others plot holes. IMO, they decided to make more and more crappy cgi cartoons so they could save more money with paper and ink and not make 2d crappy cartoons.

eastern cartoons/aka animes:

okay. I'll not activade my Lester mode on here, but let's be honest. almost everything you saw on the western TV about animes is butchered. Let's face it. EVEN SONIC X was censored. everytime Rouge said that cop was a "old woman" she, in the original speech, actually meant soemting sexual that I shall not say it here due the pg-13 ruleI can't say animes are perfect. There are TONS of bad and stupid animes like tokyo mew mew, which is nothing but a cheap knock off of sailor moon. There's also Powerpuff girls Z that is also VERY inferior in comparison to its western and original version. Even dragon ball doesn't escape it. Dragon ball was VERY good until the end of the Frieza saga. Everything after that was completely unecessary and pointless and also stupid (it's just one loooooooooooooooong and boring fight scene. Okay, i admit when i was young i thouht they were incredible, but today I would rather have an awsome story than just pointless violence. that's why I love Code geass so much).

Long story short. It doesn't matter where or how the story is made. As long as it's given tons of thought and effort in it.

my two cents here (I shall only comment about 30 minutes shows):western cartoons: they were good. very good. Teen titans, justice league, Batman, superman, Danny phantom, Delta state, South Park (at least the episodes that didn't insult religion) among several others. I mean, what happened? Flap Jack, chowder, ben 10 (is there antoher cartoon that lost completely the meaning of it's title? And yes. I'm fully prepared for the flames for saying Ben 10 was a bad cartoon. At least after Ben got older the show got better a little, but wait. Unless they decide to give one of the most stupid plot holes of the history, Kevin will tun bad again. I just gave up of that cartoon). I mean, seriously? Have they decided to trying to make new good cartoons? Secret Saturdays WAS good. I mean it. Until they decided to create several stuipid OOC moments What parents in the world, who actually CARED for their children, would allow them to go into mortal danger with just an "okay, then.". I could rage for hours and explain in further details the stupidity of the MODERN and some of the old western cartoons, but let's move foward.

3d/cgi cartoons: Beast wars was e-p-i-c, however it's sequel, Beast Machines, was f-a-i-l for one simple reason: they RUINED Silverbolt and Rhino's characters and for several others plot holes. IMO, they decided to make more and more crappy cgi cartoons so they could save more money with paper and ink and not make 2d crappy cartoons.

eastern cartoons/aka animes:

okay. I'll not activade my Lester mode on here, but let's be honest. almost everything you saw on the western TV about animes is butchered. Let's face it. EVEN SONIC X was censored. everytime Rouge said that cop was a "old woman" she, in the original speech, actually meant soemting sexual that I shall not say it here due the pg-13 ruleI can't say animes are perfect. There are TONS of bad and stupid animes like tokyo mew mew, which nothing but a cheap knock off of sailor moon. There's also Powerpuff girls Z that is also VERY inferior in comparison to its western and original version. Even dragin ball doesn't escape it. Dragon ball was VERY good until the end of the Frieza saga. Everything after that was completely unecessary and pointless and also stupid (it's just one loooooooooooooooong and boring fight scene. Okay, i admit when i was young i thouht they were incredible, but today I would rather have an awsome story than just pointless violence. that's why I love Code geass so much).

Long story short. It doesn't matter where or how the story is made. As long as it's given tons of thought and effort in it.

agreed on most of the stuff about western cartoons(though I still watch Ben 10) other than the fact that a lot of what you listed as bad, I view as "I'll watch it if nothing else is on and slightly enjoy it."

on the 3d/cgi, Reboot was a good show in that category (despite than the fact that the first few seasons were too tame due to Disney censorship)

on Anime, I like most of what's on Adult swim, and I only watch Naruto because I like the story and my mom watches it.If I got the funimation channel, I would watch that too.

Does anyone watch Generator Rex? I love that show, way better than Ben10.

And Cwitt, may I ask where you got that profile pic? I've been wanting a Rainbow Dash one for a while, but I'm no good at making them...

Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:11 pm

angelusbr

Joined: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:26 amPosts: 1754

Re: Cartoons, Anime, whatever you call em!

I don't remember much about reboot. I remember about a boy named Enzo and that the villain was called Megabyte (I used to find the villain's name very cool), I found that cartoon very good. I forgot to mention it. But up to this day the best cgi cartoon ever is beast wars.

I don't remember much about reboot. I remember about a boy named Enzo and that the villain was called Megabyte (I used to find the villain's name very cool), I found that cartoon very good. I forgot to mention it. But up to this day the best cgi cartoon ever is beast wars.

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