57, this article’s description of Netanyahu’s attitude toward President Obama really ticked me off. Because of Hillary’s public love note to Bibi, he’s now saying he will just wait out PBO’s last two years until he can basically manipulate HRC at will. She is a bigger fool than I thought she was if she supports Netanyahu in this. It’s outrageous.

Of course he will. and Hillary will play right into that. She is nothing but calculation – I wonder if there’s any heart or real intelligence in her. She had a chance to show her greatness in 2008, and chose instead to crawl into the slime where she was terrifyingly comfortable. And the truth is – she is a neocon on foreign policy. That’s who she is. She can assure Bibi and AIPAC that she is a better choice than some TeaPublican loose cannon. All that matters to her is her ambition.

I’m waiting for her to prove me wrong, to show me why she would be an excellent choice for POTUS. I’ll vote for her if I have to, but so far I don’t want to.

:-) I only went fishing once, out at sea, hated it. While the lads were doing their catching and throwing them in to a bucket, I was tossing them back in to the sea. I still smile at the memory of the lads’ faces when they saw the empty bucket. Victory!! :cool:

No need to excuse yourself, CC! You did nothing wrong. You actually did quite well, partying fully, receiving your accolades with dignity – no drunken ramblings – then waking up before noon! Better than most of us would have been able to do …. at your age. You can be proud of yourself! I am proud of you. :grin::grin:

I am catching up and reading through the previous posts and comments about what was happening in Ferguson yesterday and overnight. Looks like the FPD’s actions are doing more to incite the rioting rather doing what is needed to calm the situation. [SMH] I guess the treatment of journalists is the reason I’m seeing more and more snippets of what is happening there on the MSM…although the focus seems to be on the rioting and mention of Michael Brown (if any) seems to be an “…and oh yeah…”.

The reaction of the citizens who are rioting indicates to me that the killing of Michael Brown, which in itself is a tragedy and a travesty, was the straw that broke the camel’s back. The overblown and melodramatic actions of the FPD – even with cameras rolling; even in the light of day – just proves what AA citizens have quietly suffered over the years. The FPD obviously has no interest in trying to bring calm as they continue to provoke the unarmed individuals who were peacefully (at least initially) protesting. I guess the reaction they are getting is supposed to prove that the officer was justified in shooting Michael Brown and in their treatment of black/brown citizens in general. The FPD seems to have no worries that their actions will be censored [by city/state elected officials] as they continue to thumb their noses at those in Ferguson who are demanding justice, as well as those who are watching across the U.S. and around the world.

SW, I agree that this is a deliberate attempt to provoke on the part of the Ferguson police for the exact purpose you stated–proving they were justified in gunning down a young black man. It won’t work because this group is too stupid to understand what overkill is. Everyone can see the provocation in the clear light of day and and the whole world knows who’s doing it.

This article and thoughtful comments on the militarization of the PDs and recent spate of killings of Black men while white men are free to walk around with guns or to bomb marathons or shoot up movie theaters or Congressional meet and greets without being shot is a good read.

But that clip I posted last night Nospin – and that was just a single 90 second scene from Ferguson – they were firing rubber bullets in to the crowd. I checked the stats this morning, 17 people were killed in Northern Ireland by rubber bullets through the years, never mind ‘real’ bullets. I don’t know how someone wasn’t killed last night.

I was watching John King of CNN this morning and he were asking the question should Obama go to Missouri. They also asked about the Governor, and other the other politicians, why we haven’t heard from them. Do anyone think the President need to go to Missouri? Then he talked about the WH talking about the “hug” last night when all that is going on in Ferguson, but from what I remember it was the media doing all the talk about the hug.

Again—–from what I can tell, this is a false identity. Her facebook heading photo is her with another man, not the police chief, which I assume is her husband—–(from the same cropped photo seen above) And chief’s name is Thomas Jackson—-so different last name. Don’t know who she is or if she’s related to anyone currently in spotlight. Who keeps pushing this—and why?

If this is the guy, he had better be in custody. He has absolutely no business being out on the street as a menace to any living person. AG Holder said the FBI was involved, so maybe he can be charged with a hate crime under federal law. We can only hope.

One thought I had this a.m. on Ferguson—–from what I’ve observed it’s a relatively small number of people taking part in these night protests. There was a larger number involved earlier in a peaceful march organized by area churches—–and I think I read that they had agreed to end all presence and demonstrations by 6:00, which most did——disbursed and went home. And I have seen many statements by residents there, many while voluntarily cleaning up the aftermath of the previous night’s protest, that they are ready for some calm—–don’t want this going on every night in their community, want their kids in school etc. Many have had it—–said they’re moving out of there——tired of having their kids sleep on mattresses on the floor out of the line of possible fire etc. I just think it’s a shame that this escalates out of control every night—-largely provoked by the war machinery rolling in—–and just becomes a self-feeding frenzy——just a shame—-not an answer to anything.

Personally, I don’t have a problem with that comment. He is basically expressing understanding of what the people are going through and his message is really directed at the authorities in charge not to hassle the citizens when they are protesting and to not prevent the press from reporting. It really isn’t any different from what you would expect PBO to say.

I understand the anger, but I think there are forces at work here to try to damage/oust a Dem governor. I see a lot of troubling signs, people trying to take advantage of this uproar with political motivations. Think it may be a good idea to not add fuel to the fire, see what transpires today.

Good point Dotster. I always become suspicious when I see a tremendous amount of focus on a DEM politician during times of unrest. I wonder whether he is up for re-election this Nov? Also, was he featured prominently when PBO visited MO a couple weeks ago?

I’ve got a lot of rage this morning, black boys and black men are being executed in the streets of America and some people act as though this shit is normal. I can tolerate the injustice of what happened in Ferguson, but I cannot tolerate the indignity of what happened in Ferguson. A black boy was executed and we are supposed to act sane, when have we not acted sane? When have we not acted sane in the face of an execution that has happened to black men for centuries here in America? When are we going to stop being executed? I don’t want to hear nothing about holding hands and singing songs, I don’t want to hear nothing about people coming together and talking. We don’t need to come together as a community and try to pray this shit away. The only thing we need is to have our black boys and black men not shot down like animals, can you please stop killing us.

Don, you’ve got it right.
An unarmed 18 year old was murdered. This is not about journalists being roughly handled.

Nothing Jay Nixon says now can matter to me. He stayed away from Eerguson for four days while police action was taking away not only a life but a community’s right to peacefully assemble.
Jay Nixon is in deep shit.

Just a point which I think is important. Listening to a reporter for WaPo this morning. He was arrested last night for not leaving a McDonals last night in Fergusen when the police decided it should just be evacuated, no reason given. While he was packing his things he was also trying to make a recording.

Anyway, one of the points he made, and I think it is an important one, is that the police chief of Fergoson has little control over the majority of police officers currently there. The Fergison police are way outnumbered by the St. Louis County and state police and they don’t anser to him.

Not trying to provide any cover for him, but I think this is an important fact. There are at least three different police jurisdictions involved and they don’t all have either a specific authority they all must report to and they don;t all have the same agendas. This doesn’t make the situation any better.

I read somewhere that this has a great advantage for the police – each group can say they didn’t do a,b, or c – must have been someone else. SOMEONE needs to be in charge – as seen – 3 leaders is turmoil for everyone.

all bullshyte amk. This is like the reporter/blogger who was arrested who after his release tweeted about the inconvenience of having to eat a cold burrito in his cell but what the hey– they were all having a bad day and the cops did drive him home.

But… but…. but Ferguson Police Chief’s wife told us that “Blacks” just murder everyone, murder each other, murder unborn children, murder whites, murder police officers…yet you’re telling me that in 8 months into the year, not a single murder committed by a “BLACK?”

FERGUSON • St. Louis Alderman Antonio French emerged Thursday morning from a night in jail after his arrest at the Ferguson protests to say that the police officers’ “heavy-handed” approach on the streets is making the situation worse.

French said he has no documentation that says why he was arrested, and that he was released about 7 a.m. today without having to post any bail.

No police spokesman was available to explain why French was arrested.

French said he should never have been locked up, nor should the dozen or so others at the jail overnight.

“Inside that jail is nothing but peacekeepers,” he said. “They rounded up the wrong people … reverends, young people organizing the peace effort.”

Police arrested about a dozen people Wednesday night, including French and two national reporters. Police used tear gas and sonic cannons to disperse the crowds. Today, Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon is scheduled to visit Ferguson in the wake of the growing protests.

Chips, nerdy, LL LP AMK—whoever is blog tyrant today—I have a request. Please play the Soloman Burke recording of “None of us are Free” that Dudette treated us to late last night.
Thank you Dudette for this musical gift but since it was posted very late some of TOD family may have missed it.

The Kremlin’s worst clash with the West since the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union has accelerated the outflow of two of Russia’s most prized assets: money and brains.

Vladimir Putin’s annexation of Crimea and support for rebels accused of shooting down a passenger plane over Ukraine then hindering the recovery of the 298 bodies have shredded Western hopes of a lasting alliance with Moscow.

Sanctioned by the United States and European Union, Putin’s courtiers are under fire, Russia’s $2 trillion economy is threatened with isolation and millions of Russians across the world are wondering what next.

Russia is still earning much-needed revenues from pipelines carrying oil and gas to the West, but, less happily for the Kremlin, capital and talent are flowing in the same direction.

Russia’s Economy Ministry is forecasting $100 billion in capital outflows for this year, up from $61 billion in 2013, but that looks optimistic. Indeed some think that figure has already been exceeded.

“Somewhere between $100 billion and $200 billion of capital flight has taken place,” said U.S. President Barack Obama on Aug. 6.

European Central Bank President Mario Draghi said back in May that the crisis had prompted “very significant outflows that have been estimated by some to be in the order of 160 billion euro ($214 billion) out of Russia”.

Even economists from Moscow’s Higher School of Economics forecast outflows could total $130-$150 billion this year.