Sidetrack: I used to shoot Palma course stuff, it's kinda popular in the Wisconsin area, as is prone long range stuff in general. It just wasn't popular among the junior shooters, probably because they mostly focused on DCM/CMP week service rifle stuff; the benefit of young eyes, I guess.

Wowzers, if you're interested in 280AI, I have a custom Rem700, McMillen stocked hunting rifle in 280AI I'd be willing to sell. Pm me if you're interested. S/F....Ken M

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One of my favorites in the safe is a Remington Mod 81 in .300Sav. Classic Maine rifle, classic NE/PA round. Mine's from 1946, I think, will group 2" at 100yd and I've managed sub-6" at 220 seated and irons. The fat cartridge is a pussycat in this rig, you could shoot all day (humping the thing is another story).

I almost bought a cherry 250 Savage a couple years ago. Would have been a great venison getter. After a little research the ammo is very hard to find so I passed on it.

A Savage 99 in 300 Savage or 250/3000 is probably the pinnacle of American lever rifle technology, as well as the machinist's art. If you can find one reasonable, it's a rifle worth owning. They will only appreciate in value. S/F....Ken M

__________________"If you remember nothing else about what Iím about to consider here, remember this: the one and only reason politicians, bureaucrats, and policemen want to take your weapons away from you is so that they can do things to you that they couldnít do if you still had your weapons."ó L. Neil Smith

I actually have factory ammo for all, but the .284, .351, and .257 Roberts is getting scarce. Every once in a unicorns fart I can find .250-3000 Savage at Cabela's, and out of all these .35 Remington is pretty easy to locate.

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__________________"If you remember nothing else about what Iím about to consider here, remember this: the one and only reason politicians, bureaucrats, and policemen want to take your weapons away from you is so that they can do things to you that they couldnít do if you still had your weapons."ó L. Neil Smith

Some odd rounds stop being odd rounds and become standard loadings with a small but viable commercial market (.300 Whisper/BLK, .40 S&W, .327 Federal, .357 Sig, .45 GAP, all the short belted magnums). Some odd rounds have a very good reason for existence (the .45 Auto Rim), but just don't catch on. Others are somewhat novel concepts that don't catch on, often because the ballistic performance doesn't match expectations (.22 TCM, 5.7mm). Rounds like the .458 HAMR probably will always be just odd rounds, if the market trajectory of all of the rounds that do the same thing in the same platform are an indicator.

BTW, anyone with a serious interest on revolvers chambered in auto cartridges needs to do some research on why the .45 Auto Rim is a great round, and the .45 ACP, 9mm, 10mm, .40 S&W etc are poor choices in a revolver. I'd spell it out for you, but, that would deprive you of some good reading and learning.

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One my favorite rifles to shoot is my Lee-Enfield .303. It's the smoothest shooting gun I've ever owned. It's my deer rifle of choice. However, I don't shoot it too often because every time I squeeze the trigger, $1.25-1.50 goes flying down the barrel. Ammo isn't impossible to find, but it is expensive when it is found.

That said, I try to grab a box of 20 rounds every couple of months...just in case I need to take zombies out at distance.

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