Comments on: What Babe Ruth, Cy Young Ted Williams and . . . Yasiel Puig have in commonhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/02/what-babe-ruth-cy-young-ted-williams-and-yasiel-puig-have-in-common/
Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball.Sun, 02 Aug 2015 18:37:09 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: shyts7http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/02/what-babe-ruth-cy-young-ted-williams-and-yasiel-puig-have-in-common/comment-page-1/#comment-715842
Wed, 04 Jun 2014 15:46:58 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523923#comment-715842As nbjays stated, Mike Trout plays for the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. While technically the Angels are not in Los Angeles, they are apart of the Los Angeles metro area, sort of the same way the Washington Redskins are not in Washington but are apart of the Washington metro area.
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Wed, 04 Jun 2014 15:42:45 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523923#comment-715839I’m glad you did all that research. I guess I have to spell it out for some. The guy I was talking about was Mike Trout.
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Tue, 03 Jun 2014 16:55:57 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523923#comment-715269Did you read the article? If so, you missed the point entirely. If not, shut up.
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Tue, 03 Jun 2014 12:49:02 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523923#comment-715065And a pirates fan.
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Tue, 03 Jun 2014 04:24:55 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523923#comment-715015In no way should Cuba trash be mentioned in the same sentence as previous Studs as the game. Shame on you Craig. Jesus.
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Tue, 03 Jun 2014 04:11:50 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523923#comment-715013I think your portrayal of Jews as being a minor part of the establishment of baseball, and that the Black players actively kept to themselves as a form of reverse discrimination, is far fetched at best.
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Tue, 03 Jun 2014 02:48:04 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523923#comment-714996That would be the LOS ANGELES Angels of Anaheim… which is likely what Shyts was referring to.
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Tue, 03 Jun 2014 02:24:34 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523923#comment-714991C. You’re a moron with nothing worthwhile to add to the conversation.
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Tue, 03 Jun 2014 02:00:11 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523923#comment-714986Testy, sensitive people.
A. I called them old white trash, not the common phrase `poor white trash`. so their complete ethnicity wasn’t totally what I was referring to. They represent yesterday games, as bleached as you people might not want to admit. And they are Old. and it’s people like a few on here always casting judgment/ comparison with today’s players that are normally unfair and negative. Trash
B. there is no b. my buccos are coming on
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Tue, 03 Jun 2014 01:11:35 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523923#comment-714973Ted Williams was disliked because he did not suffer idiots easily. Tough attitude to cop in professional sports.
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Tue, 03 Jun 2014 01:07:28 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523923#comment-714972Always fun to see someone’s stupid comment get so thoroughly and succinctly bodyslammed. Good job, 18thstreet.
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Tue, 03 Jun 2014 01:04:53 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523923#comment-714971I’m prejudiced against stupidity.
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Tue, 03 Jun 2014 00:52:22 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523923#comment-714970Hahaha, that’s quite the little logic pretzel you’ve created. Good effort, dude.
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Tue, 03 Jun 2014 00:45:54 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523923#comment-714966Except Trout isn’t in L.A.
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Tue, 03 Jun 2014 00:37:00 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523923#comment-714959The subtext of every Calcaterra article is to point out what miserable racists we all are. This one of course does not disappoint. Even better are the lemmings who play along so they can declare to the world they are not racists. The game of race baiters is that if they can point out someone else who is racist it somehow not only takes the heat off of them, but it makes them look like heroes. Quite often, deep down, like many homophobes, they are merely hiding their own true racist attitudes. I suspect Calcaterra and “musketmaniac” are no different.
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Tue, 03 Jun 2014 00:08:24 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523923#comment-714937Moron.
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Mon, 02 Jun 2014 23:26:01 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523923#comment-714917This is why. Because people didn’t bother reading the story to understand the basis of comparison, which has little to do with baseball ability and everything to do with the attitude of the baseball establishment toward those players.
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Mon, 02 Jun 2014 23:02:49 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523923#comment-714908Trout plays in Anaheim, in the American League. Kemp plays in Los Angeles, in the National League.
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Mon, 02 Jun 2014 22:53:03 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523923#comment-714903There are a few interviews of Ted Williams talking about how MLB players and the media did not like him because he was of mexican descent, and word got out he changed his name because it was the only way he could play professional baseball. One of those “rarities” when a white hispanic player was discriminated by white anglosaxon and the few jewish players that existed in MLB and at the same time also discriminated by black players because even when he was part of a minority, he was white (unlike other hispanic players who were welcomed in black leagues because they were blacks). Really a hard time to be a baseball player when all those prejudices were rampant not only inside baseball but in society (there are players from the Negroe Leagues or whatever they were called who played in México for Pasquel and others and said what a wonderful experience it was to feel welcomed everywhere and to be an integral part of society and not being discriminated). SABR has various articles on that subject which can open a few eyes for those who think it did not happen.
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Mon, 02 Jun 2014 22:01:50 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=523923#comment-714884I thnk that when you invent a false comparison between a new player and all-time greats and you suggest that new guy shares something with the ATGs, then end with “but only time…will tell. Dum dum DUMMM!!!!” then yeah, you are being thick to turn around and say, “oh, but I never meant to imply… Oh, my word!” (Author faints dead away).

Being disingenuous is getting to be a real membership card around here.

I still think Yasiel Puig acts like a jerk on the field. (Shows self out)

The goal of the story was to point out that many of the things said in the past year about Puig were similar to things said about some of the most revered players in baseball. It could have been written about another current young talent, I suppose, but I’m not sure a current young talent has drawn as much derision as Puig.

I thought it was interesting to find a thread between Cy Young and Yasiel Puig. I thought it was interesting that Ted Williams, thought by some as the epitome of Old School respect of the game, was seen as the opposite when he was at Puig’s level of experience. However Puig’s career turns out, I don’t think it’s irrelevant to give some perspective to the common narrative that surrounds him. But of course you’re welcome to disagree.