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"A heart is not judged by how much you love; but by how much you are loved by others. "
"Star cross'd lovers"?
"It is a truth universally acknowledged, that an imp in possession of a good library must be in want of a wife."
"And you know, they’re embarking on a new road together and you know, yeah, we’ve just shown a potential bump but this love is real, and we’re gonna see what it can overcome and what it can face together." Adam Horowitz
Because Rumple has always been Her Handsome Hero.

I loved Rumbelle in the last episode! to Rumple for confiding Belle in and being all "let's work together" instead of going solo behind her back (like he/the Dark One usually does). So proud of him! That scene in the shop was beautiful And I loved their matching flip phones, too!

So the Black Fairy took Gideon. Poor baby.. And poor Rumple for having such a lovely mom But what did she do to Gideon? He gave me chills in that last scene with his parents

to Gideon for turning the EQ into a snake, though. I'm sure Rumple would be proud of him!

This must be the first mid-season finale that was good (well, kind of) for Rumbelle. I mean, of course I'm bummed that they didn't get to raise their son (but maybe that can be fixed?), but usually they are separated in the midseason finale; in S2 Belle lost her memories. In S3 Rumple died. In S4 Belle banished him. In S5 he became the DO again and went to the UW. So yeah, this was a nice surprise. I actually can't wait to see how their story continues in the spring (why do we have to wait 3 months, UGH!).

From the previous thread..

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Originally Posted by IrishWristWatch

So many ?s re: Black Fairy and Gideon right now. Why did the Black Fairy abandon Rumple? Does she feel any remorse? Did she steal babies all this time looking for the “right one” to manipulate for her purposes? Any hope of redemption for her or is she rotten to the core? Gideon: When we see him as Morpheus, was he trying to help or was it all an act to makethings go as needed for whatever plan he hoped for? What did the Black Fairy do to him to make him so angry with Belle/Rumple if he supposedly has no history with them?

Blue said Black Fairy used to be good until her heart darkened for some reason, which I think has something to do with her abandoning Rumple (due to her becoming power-hungry?). I don't know if she can be redeemed, though. She didn't seem very remorseful in that "Changelings" flashback, IMO.

Great question about Gideon. I guess it's possible he was truly just trying to help Belle and being kidnapped by BF wasn't part of his plan. But all that dream stuff could have been just an act, too.. I still think there was something fishy about him in the premiere. We'll see..

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Originally Posted by Belleislove

And wasn't there supposed to be some danger to Belle?

Yes.. I think it could be Gideon. I mean, he didn't seem very happy to see EITHER of his parents..

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Originally Posted by IrishWristWatch

Here's an article with some stuff about Gideon/RumBelle/what happened last night. I highlighted what I think is very hopeful about RumBelle but read the whole thing, lots of good stuff in there!

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Will working together bring Rumple and Belle closer, maybe lead to some understanding between them?
KITSIS: Yeah, I think the path for Rumple and Belle has been rocky, it has been tortuous, but sometimes things bring us together in unexpected ways. I’ve always rooted for those two and I hope for the best.
HOROWITZ: I’ll say this: In the episode that aired this past week, before the winter finale, I think you saw Rumple go right up to the line. And when he had the ability to speed up her pregnancy and do one of the worst things possible to Belle, he didn’t do it. He got to the line and he turned back from it, even though Belle doesn’t know that at the end of episode 9. But he did, and I think that was a really important moment and a really telling moment, which is that despite all of his love for power and addiction to magic, there is a deep abiding love for Belle in there as well, and he’s always in conflict because of that. That’s the glimmer of hope that has not died out and is kind of the root of that relationship.

Thanks! Another great interview Wow, Eddy! He really surprised me.. Does he really mean what he says there or is he just trolling us? But yeah, it does look like things are finally getting better for Rumbelle.

I was like ""meh" through the episode for RUmbelle, but I'm glad I wasn't like "nooooooooooooo" and they finished one mid-season in the same room at least for once

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I would see you kept safe from the sad havoc of this world. I will not bring my ruin upon you.You do not bring ruin! You bring hope. You are naught but hope and life. You saved me, first time I ever laid eyes on you. That's who you are to me, who you'll always be.

I was like ""meh" through the episode for RUmbelle, but I'm glad I wasn't like "nooooooooooooo" and they finished one mid-season in the same room at least for once

and not only in the same room but both awake at the same time and no one in a box or with altered memories!

Yeah the good stuff doesn't really happen til later in the show and its subtle: Rumple protectively puts his arm around Belle and she doesn't jab him in the stomach LOL, they refer to Gideon as "our son" instead of "my son", they are working together to find him, and you can see from their body language, particularly the looks they give one another that they still love each other

I was like ""meh" through the episode for RUmbelle, but I'm glad I wasn't like "nooooooooooooo" and they finished one mid-season in the same room at least for once

Well with this couple you have to lower your expectations so I celebrate when we get even a smidgeon of hope and the promise of a story. They are working together a lot and the writers said it would help them begin healing so I think Rumbelle is on the road to recovery!

and not only in the same room but both awake at the same time and no one in a box or with altered memories!

how could I ever forget to add "AND AWAKE"

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I would see you kept safe from the sad havoc of this world. I will not bring my ruin upon you.You do not bring ruin! You bring hope. You are naught but hope and life. You saved me, first time I ever laid eyes on you. That's who you are to me, who you'll always be.

I loved Rumbelle in the last episode! to Rumple for confiding Belle in and being all "let's work together" instead of going solo behind her back (like he/the Dark One usually does). So proud of him! That scene in the shop was beautiful And I loved their matching flip phones, too!

So the Black Fairy took Gideon. Poor baby.. And poor Rumple for having such a lovely mom But what did she do to Gideon? He gave me chills in that last scene with his parents

to Gideon for turning the EQ into a snake, though. I'm sure Rumple would be proud of him!

This must be the first mid-season finale that was good (well, kind of) for Rumbelle. I mean, of course I'm bummed that they didn't get to raise their son (but maybe that can be fixed?), but usually they are separated in the midseason finale; in S2 Belle lost her memories. In S3 Rumple died. In S4 Belle banished him. In S5 he became the DO again and went to the UW. So yeah, this was a nice surprise. I actually can't wait to see how their story continues in the spring (why do we have to wait 3 months, UGH!).

Yeah the good stuff doesn't really happen til later in the show and its subtle: Rumple protectively puts his arm around Belle and she doesn't jab him in the stomach LOL, they refer to Gideon as "our son" instead of "my son", they are working together to find him, and you can see from their body language, particularly the looks they give one another that they still love each other

Oh yes , what I am hoping is working together means bringing them together again , I'm already getting slightly about this, dammit

I would see you kept safe from the sad havoc of this world. I will not bring my ruin upon you.You do not bring ruin! You bring hope. You are naught but hope and life. You saved me, first time I ever laid eyes on you. That's who you are to me, who you'll always be.

The last time we saw Gideon before the reveal, he told Belle that he would always remember that she loved him and she was doing the best for him. Then there was this ominous encounter with her and Rumple at the end of the episode. What can you say about Gideon's feelings about his parents when the show returns?
Kitsis: That is the question for the second half, which is what happened to him? Who has he become? We know who Belle wanted him to become, and the answers to that will be revealed right in the premiere.

Will we also see a lot more of the Black Fairy in the second half of the season?
Kitsis: Yup, we're going to see it all.

Now that we know Gideon is under the hood and he may be the person that kills Emma, will that cause any tension between her and Belle?
Kitsis: It's going to cause tension between all of them. What we sometimes forget is that Gold is actually Henry's grandpa, and they're all weirdly tied together. I think that you have Rumple and Belle looking out for their child, and you're going to have the Charmings looking out for Emma. I would say the family is going to be divided.

The idea that their son was in danger put Belle and Rumple back on the same page for the first time in a long time. Should fans still hold out hope for them as a couple?
Kitsis: I think they should. This is a show about hope. As Mary Margaret said in the pilot, "Even believing in the possibility of a happy ending is a powerful thing." For us, people face adversity. People split up. They come together and I have hope for them.

And you know, a person would do anything for their child and I think we're going to find that with Belle. As much friendship as she feels for Snowing, this is her son.

But the hard thing is I love Snow/Charming as well and of course they want to protect their child. This could actually be a great story for all of them, if it lasts beyond a few episodes. This is about a million times better as a story than what they gave us in 6A.