N. Outer 40 near Mason Rd. Map looks like it's in Town and Country. I still can't remember what buildings are nearby.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1145382

Im almost positive it's a Scientology temple. It is Probobly the biggest one I've ever seen though. It's kind of interesting that your bringing it up. What made you think about it?

Quoting: YOUCITY 1554286

Maybe it was originally Scientology. If you look it up online it's a Mormon Temple now. I thought of it because of what you said about Mormon's wanting to build their last temple in MO which they thought was the Garden of Eden. The Mormons wanted to stay in MO and make it their headquarters but they got run out of MO (by Baptists I think) because they are considered a cult, and they were polygamists, so they ended up going to Salt Lake City. I'm not sure what part of MO they were in, I'll look it up. The Mormon church was started in the 1800s.

I miss St. Louie. We lived in West County fo most of the 90's just a few miles from Castlewood State Park and Lone Elk Park. Raced bicycles back then and won a few state championships. Some great road rides out there in hilly far West County....Wild Horse Creek Road and around Babler State Park I rode every friday. Chubb trail at Tyson park on the Merramac is a hell of a fun technical trail.

St. Louis surrounded by great small towns. Like Crystal City, MO, birthplace of an amazing long list of famous and influential sports legends, generals, admirals, presidential candidate and NBA star Bill Bradley.

I'm not saying that the city that i was born in & lived in for my whole life is the center of the universe but the more that I uncover the more I begin to wonder. Id like to start this thread by talking about all of the strange and important facts or "conincedences" that I have found pertaining to St.Louis but there are other places suppounding St.louis such as southern IL, the NW Arkansas Ozarks region , and the NW Missouri Ozarks region, I would like to say that ever since I started instigating and researching my hometown & surroundings , I have wanted to & even encouraged others to do the same with their surroundings. I believe some people if not everyome live and or born in paticular places for a reason. I think most people would be suprised to find out the history and current events of their surroundings other than being dependent on the local or national media. So I mentioned some places other than St.Louis but they are are surrounding St.louis and I would eventually like to include facts and stories about the places I mentioned earlier as well.

Not everything I mention here will make sense to everyone but hopefully if just one person begins to thinks, if indeed their is any truth involved in anything i provide , then I will be more than happy. So at the risk of being ridiculed , nothing new, I will Probobly share some pretty weird theories and connections , which may or may not be Coincedences. For the record I do not believe in Coincedence but with everything their is an exception to almost every rule and someti.

I have more than a few theories and recently things have begun to happen more and more and it also seems like things are starting to fall into place with more and more dots starting to be connected. I'm not sure when or where I'm gonna start so if your curious and want to check out the thread then I would suggest that you just bookmark this or bump it and check it every so often. I'm in the middle of other things at the moment but I hope to get something started on here tomorrow. Thanks

NAMASTE

Abraham

Quoting: YoU~€it¥~abE23 1554286

i know somethings from living in the area. pick a topic. i might be able to help you.

Look into the single connection between the Oklahoma City bombing, the first World Trade Center bombing, and 911. The connection is St. Louisan Leon Lattimore. Lattimore had numerous connections with all 3, was questioned and released each time by FBI. Check out Jayna Davis' book The Third Terrorist. Big St. Louis connection that never gets appropriate coverage.

Btw - I have been to the truck stop in E. St Louis and the area is in deep disrepair similar to W. Memphis on the other side of I-40.

Quoting: a student of Protean thought

Interesting. I was going to post this at some point so I guess now is as good a time as any. This was posted by a member named HHH on a thread I started called "who is the nobody?".

So here is a minor clue poster. At this time you are located due North of the Nobody. Coincidentally this same geo-spatial relationship can be observed on the opposite sides of these two respective states at two separate locales, those being Memphis and St. Louis.

There are two significant structures being utilized in the current realignment of the grids which are located at these two destinations, those being the St. Louis Arch (i.e. "single arch") and the Memphis Bridge (i.e. "double arch" also being utilized as the “M” or the "13"). You might say that these are two of many significant anchor points being used to transmute and distribute particular energy streams. Mind you, in this case these are ‘un-natural’ (or control) streams, versus ‘natural’ streams.

Each of these artifacts has significant historical value. Each has important symbolic connotations as well. Each also provides a specific functional value. One is a destination (for instance) the other leads to a destination. One is monolithic, the other is composite. One has multiple rectilinear (component) cross-sections, the other has a singular triangulated cross-section. One transports vertically, the other horizontally. One transports internally, the other externally. One is open, the other is closed. One movespeople, the other machines. One moves about the ground plane, the other transports from beneath the ground plane (subterranean) to up above this plane. One has an elevation that is based on the circle (or actually arc), the other uses an ellipse as a basis for design.

To the East of these landmarks you have two states (Arkansas and Missouri). To the West of these sites you have three, Illinois and Tennessee split by Kentucky. The Memphis Bridge runs East/West with views to the North and South. The St. Louis Arch spans North South with views to the East and to the West. ,On has two base points, the other has three. One is located on land, the other connects the land and spans water. Each also bears certain historical and contextual cues worth noting such as the Cahokia Mounds (Native American) vs. the Desoto Mounds (Spanish). The pyramid (Egypt) would be another good example. What else connects these two locations? The Mississippi River for starters.

Try taking a moment to focus (present) and reflect (past) on these two unique locations in order to establish (future) what you consider to be of significance regarding these particular 'relationships'. In the case that you have visited both places, reflect on those experiences as well. Think of things that I haven’t mentioned also. Also, try to think in a non-conventional way. Consider both the literal and abstract meanings of these places, these objects. Also consider these things in both physical and non-physical terms.

There is a reason I am asking you to do this btw (and no, it is not a trick). In contemplating such relationships you will typically find that at some level numeric identifiers and patterns emerge. Consider opposites, multiples, and sequences also. These four points I mention also form a parallelogram. In this case the inherent angles of this shape are of particular importance.

Another way to explore such items is through the deciphering of language (which is a huge topic unto itself which I’ll try to discuss later). For instance, in this example we have ST/LOU/IS and MEM/PHI/S. This breaks down even further and presents further clues. For instance “Mem” is the thirteenth letter of many Semitic scripts and is derived from the Egyptian hieroglyphic symbol for water. Phi is symbolic of the golden ratio and in Greek numerals has a value of 500. As with most words, anagrams and gematria may also reveal certain clues, values, and hidden relationships.

I’m not trying to be annoyingly cryptic btw, but rather attempting to illustrate one way our 3D reality manifests and how some of these sublime factors come together to influence us and the things around us. This is just an example of course. With practice it becomes much easier to see the paths around us in which energies are circulated. With this awareness it becomes easier to control these forces. Such an awareness naturally has the power to eliminate certain negative influences which exist beyond our perception.

Now, what if you were to focus your thoughts and apply intent to the example above? What if a hundred (or even a million) people were to do the same? Would it amount to anything? Would any such effect actually manifest? And would it do so in the future or could it actually manifest in the past?

What if this exercise were applied to an even larger area or to other levels of existence altogether? Could we collectively over-ride the negative patterns and constructs that have been put in place by the Dark? Could we literally dissolve the nets that were cast in order to bind us? What do youthink they are so afraid of? I am presenting this as an exercise to open certain pathways.

You see the world says look at these objects…here is a building and over there is a rock. We must all begin seeing beyond the “objects” by looking at the relationships that exist in-between. If you want to change the exterior, start first by modifying and compelling the interior, or as they say “Change starts within”. See past the false dichotomies. As an example, politics (poly tics) like most paradigms and control mechanisms are deceptively divided into the left and the right (a two-dimensional platform).

Technically all of Congress should be crammed into one long pew which is situated on one side of the isle. This side would constitute minor variations of the exact same thing…such as war, control, finance, limitation, and the lack of personal sovereignty. This would free up half of Congress for its natural “opponent” which would represent the people, our interests, and the environment (rather than the Corporation and its often-nefarious agendas).

Consider Masaru Emoto’s studies of the water molecule and how positive intent is literally capable of altering physical structure. Also, do not underestimate how many Universal answers can be found in the results of this very simple study. Consider how these perfect structures may then further bind together to increase in influence, and how such an influence could attract even higher levels of perfection which would result in a far more natural order. Also realize how such a practice, if widely applied, could effectively diminish the darker influences by ultimately squeezing them out. Less negativity = less food (or loosh if you will) It’s powerful stuff!

N. Outer 40 near Mason Rd. Map looks like it's in Town and Country. I still can't remember what buildings are nearby.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1145382

Im almost positive it's a Scientology temple. It is Probobly the biggest one I've ever seen though. It's kind of interesting that your bringing it up. What made you think about it?

Quoting: YOUCITY 1554286

Maybe it was originally Scientology. If you look it up online it's a Mormon Temple now. I thought of it because of what you said about Mormon's wanting to build their last temple in MO which they thought was the Garden of Eden. The Mormons wanted to stay in MO and make it their headquarters but they got run out of MO (by Baptists I think) because they are considered a cult, and they were polygamists, so they ended up going to Salt Lake City. I'm not sure what part of MO they were in, I'll look it up. The Mormon church was started in the 1800s.

Mormon church was originally headquartered in Jackson Co MO, then moved into other counties. In the Mormon War of the 1830s, Governor Boggs of MO issued an "extermination order" of Mormons and drove out 8-10 thousand Mormons out of the state. The Mormon church called the area Zion and Independence Mo (outside of K.C.) is now considered by the Mormon church as the centerplace of the city of Zion from which the teaching of Christ will come at his return. So, it really doesn't have anything to do with St. Louis, but interesting to know MO is where they think the new Zion will be when Christ returns. I just found this info online somewhere.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1145382

This is believed to emphasize that when the Lord comes again, he will come "to his temple."As plans were drawn up to construct a temple in Kirtland, the decision was made to simultaneously begin work on a second temple at the church's colony in Jackson County, Missouri. Surviving plans indicate that both temples would have the same dimensions and approximately the same appearance and both were to be at the "centerplaces" of cities designed according to Smith's plan for the City of Zion.Conflict in Missouri led to the expulsion of the Mormons from Jackson County, preventing any possibility of building a temple there, but work on the temple in Kirtland continued. At great cost and after great sacrifice, the Latter Day Saints finished the Kirtland Temple in early 1836. On March 27, they held a lengthy dedication ceremony and numerous spiritual experiences and visitations were reported.

Interested in hearing your take on things. I still don't know why or what was the course of history put in play when John Paul II went to Missouri - why Missouri?

Seems like everything gets refocused back to that region somehow, some way, whether it is weather related (catastrophic) military rumors, Nafta, religions, etc...

Quoting: Ohwow!

Why does the queen own land and visit CO? Because underground. Pine Gap, Australia is the deepest natural made cavern in the world, guess who is the second? Somewhere around St. Louis! Numerous caves are also located between Hannibal and St. Louis, as well as in central Missouri near Columbia. So why do they like to visit these places with huge underground space?

I'm not saying that the city that i was born in & lived in for my whole life is the center of the universe but the more that I uncover the more I begin to wonder. Id like to start this thread by talking about all of the strange and important facts or "conincedences" that I have found pertaining to St.Louis but there are other places suppounding St.louis such as southern IL, the NW Arkansas Ozarks region , and the NW Missouri Ozarks region, I would like to say that ever since I started instigating and researching my hometown & surroundings , I have wanted to & even encouraged others to do the same with their surroundings. I believe some people if not everyome live and or born in paticular places for a reason. I think most people would be suprised to find out the history and current events of their surroundings other than being dependent on the local or national media. So I mentioned some places other than St.Louis but they are are surrounding St.louis and I would eventually like to include facts and stories about the places I mentioned earlier as well.

Not everything I mention here will make sense to everyone but hopefully if just one person begins to thinks, if indeed their is any truth involved in anything i provide , then I will be more than happy. So at the risk of being ridiculed , nothing new, I will Probobly share some pretty weird theories and connections , which may or may not be Coincedences. For the record I do not believe in Coincedence but with everything their is an exception to almost every rule and someti.

I have more than a few theories and recently things have begun to happen more and more and it also seems like things are starting to fall into place with more and more dots starting to be connected. I'm not sure when or where I'm gonna start so if your curious and want to check out the thread then I would suggest that you just bookmark this or bump it and check it every so often. I'm in the middle of other things at the moment but I hope to get something started on here tomorrow. Thanks

NAMASTE

Abraham

Quoting: YoU~€it¥~abE23 1554286

i know somethings from living in the area. pick a topic. i might be able to help you.

I’m not trying to be annoyingly cryptic btw, but rather attempting to illustrate one way our 3D reality manifests and how some of these sublime factors come together to influence us and the things around us. This is just an example of course. With practice it becomes much easier to see the paths around us in which energies are circulated. With this awareness it becomes easier to control these forces. Such an awareness naturally has the power to eliminate certain negative influences which exist beyond our perception.

Now, what if you were to focus your thoughts and apply intent to the example above? What if a hundred (or even a million) people were to do the same? Would it amount to anything? Would any such effect actually manifest? And would it do so in the future or could it actually manifest in the past?

What if this exercise were applied to an even larger area or to other levels of existence altogether? Could we collectively over-ride the negative patterns and constructs that have been put in place by the Dark? Could we literally dissolve the nets that were cast in order to bind us? What do you think they are so afraid of? I am presenting this as an exercise to open certain pathways.

Quoting: a student of Protean thought

What he's explaining above is Witchcraft 101. I'm sorry, but what he's up against are those who are gurus compared to his kindergarten magick.

Interested in hearing your take on things. I still don't know why or what was the course of history put in play when John Paul II went to Missouri - why Missouri?

Seems like everything gets refocused back to that region somehow, some way, whether it is weather related (catastrophic) military rumors, Nafta, religions, etc...

Quoting: Ohwow!

Why does the queen own land and visit CO? Because underground. Pine Gap, Australia is the deepest natural made cavern in the world, guess who is the second? Somewhere around St. Louis! Numerous caves are also located between Hannibal and St. Louis, as well as in central Missouri near Columbia. So why do they like to visit these places with huge underground space?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 614299

I was recently contacted and met a girl who heard about me on a site called underground Ozarks. It's hard to explain why she wanted to meet me but it has to do with a dream she had about some kind of ritual with children taking place underneath Washington University & Forest Park. I live across the street from Foret Park and have lived near it for many years. Also my mom and step dad went to Washington University. Before we met she had no idea that I lived near forest park or that my parents went to Wash - U. I'm not sure what's going on but I do know that Missouri and even St.louis has a ton of caves. There are many houses in the city of st.louis which contain cave entrances in the basements.

I’m not trying to be annoyingly cryptic btw, but rather attempting to illustrate one way our 3D reality manifests and how some of these sublime factors come together to influence us and the things around us. This is just an example of course. With practice it becomes much easier to see the paths around us in which energies are circulated. With this awareness it becomes easier to control these forces. Such an awareness naturally has the power to eliminate certain negative influences which exist beyond our perception.

Now, what if you were to focus your thoughts and apply intent to the example above? What if a hundred (or even a million) people were to do the same? Would it amount to anything? Would any such effect actually manifest? And would it do so in the future or could it actually manifest in the past?

What if this exercise were applied to an even larger area or to other levels of existence altogether? Could we collectively over-ride the negative patterns and constructs that have been put in place by the Dark? Could we literally dissolve the nets that were cast in order to bind us? What do you think they are so afraid of? I am presenting this as an exercise to open certain pathways.

Quoting: a student of Protean thought

What he's explaining above is Witchcraft 101. I'm sorry, but what he's up against are those who are gurus compared to his kindergarten magick.

I’m not trying to be annoyingly cryptic btw, but rather attempting to illustrate one way our 3D reality manifests and how some of these sublime factors come together to influence us and the things around us. This is just an example of course. With practice it becomes much easier to see the paths around us in which energies are circulated. With this awareness it becomes easier to control these forces. Such an awareness naturally has the power to eliminate certain negative influences which exist beyond our perception.

Now, what if you were to focus your thoughts and apply intent to the example above? What if a hundred (or even a million) people were to do the same? Would it amount to anything? Would any such effect actually manifest? And would it do so in the future or could it actually manifest in the past?

What if this exercise were applied to an even larger area or to other levels of existence altogether? Could we collectively over-ride the negative patterns and constructs that have been put in place by the Dark? Could we literally dissolve the nets that were cast in order to bind us? What do you think they are so afraid of? I am presenting this as an exercise to open certain pathways.

Quoting: a student of Protean thought

What he's explaining above is Witchcraft 101. I'm sorry, but what he's up against are those who are gurus compared to his kindergarten magick.

Quoting: ThreshingSword 1509082

Thankyou threshing sword

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554286

I’m not trying to be annoyingly cryptic btw, but rather attempting to illustrate one way our 3D reality manifests and how some of these sublime factors come together to influence us and the things around us. This is just an example of course. With practice it becomes much easier to see the paths around us in which energies are circulated. With this awareness it becomes easier to control these forces. Such an awareness naturally has the power to eliminate certain negative influences which exist beyond our perception.

Now, what if you were to focus your thoughts and apply intent to the example above? What if a hundred (or even a million) people were to do the same? Would it amount to anything? Would any such effect actually manifest? And would it do so in the future or could it actually manifest in the past?

What if this exercise were applied to an even larger area or to other levels of existence altogether? Could we collectively over-ride the negative patterns and constructs that have been put in place by the Dark? Could we literally dissolve the nets that were cast in order to bind us? What do you think they are so afraid of? I am presenting this as an exercise to open certain pathways.

Quoting: a student of Protean thought

What he's explaining above is Witchcraft 101. I'm sorry, but what he's up against are those who are gurus compared to his kindergarten magick.

Quoting: ThreshingSword 1509082

Thankyou threshing sword

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554286

You're one of my favorite posters. You'd make a great investigative journalist.

I’m not trying to be annoyingly cryptic btw, but rather attempting to illustrate one way our 3D reality manifests and how some of these sublime factors come together to influence us and the things around us. This is just an example of course. With practice it becomes much easier to see the paths around us in which energies are circulated. With this awareness it becomes easier to control these forces. Such an awareness naturally has the power to eliminate certain negative influences which exist beyond our perception.

Now, what if you were to focus your thoughts and apply intent to the example above? What if a hundred (or even a million) people were to do the same? Would it amount to anything? Would any such effect actually manifest? And would it do so in the future or could it actually manifest in the past?

What if this exercise were applied to an even larger area or to other levels of existence altogether? Could we collectively over-ride the negative patterns and constructs that have been put in place by the Dark? Could we literally dissolve the nets that were cast in order to bind us? What do you think they are so afraid of? I am presenting this as an exercise to open certain pathways.

Quoting: a student of Protean thought

What he's explaining above is Witchcraft 101. I'm sorry, but what he's up against are those who are gurus compared to his kindergarten magick.

Quoting: ThreshingSword 1509082

Thankyou threshing sword

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554286

I’m not trying to be annoyingly cryptic btw, but rather attempting to illustrate one way our 3D reality manifests and how some of these sublime factors come together to influence us and the things around us. This is just an example of course. With practice it becomes much easier to see the paths around us in which energies are circulated. With this awareness it becomes easier to control these forces. Such an awareness naturally has the power to eliminate certain negative influences which exist beyond our perception.

Now, what if you were to focus your thoughts and apply intent to the example above? What if a hundred (or even a million) people were to do the same? Would it amount to anything? Would any such effect actually manifest? And would it do so in the future or could it actually manifest in the past?

What if this exercise were applied to an even larger area or to other levels of existence altogether? Could we collectively over-ride the negative patterns and constructs that have been put in place by the Dark? Could we literally dissolve the nets that were cast in order to bind us? What do you think they are so afraid of? I am presenting this as an exercise to open certain pathways.

Quoting: a student of Protean thought

What he's explaining above is Witchcraft 101. I'm sorry, but what he's up against are those who are gurus compared to his kindergarten magick.

Quoting: ThreshingSword 1509082

Thankyou threshing sword

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554286

You're one of my favorite posters. You'd make a great investigative journalist.

Quoting: ThreshingSword 1509082

That's funny. My dad was a criminal investigator for the juvenile court so maybe it's in my blood. Your an angel TS

I'm not saying that the city that i was born in & lived in for my whole life is the center of the universe but the more that I uncover the more I begin to wonder. Id like to start this thread by talking about all of the strange and important facts or "conincedences" that I have found pertaining to St.Louis but there are other places suppounding St.louis such as southern IL, the NW Arkansas Ozarks region , and the NW Missouri Ozarks region, I would like to say that ever since I started instigating and researching my hometown & surroundings , I have wanted to & even encouraged others to do the same with their surroundings. I believe some people if not everyome live and or born in paticular places for a reason. I think most people would be suprised to find out the history and current events of their surroundings other than being dependent on the local or national media. So I mentioned some places other than St.Louis but they are are surrounding St.louis and I would eventually like to include facts and stories about the places I mentioned earlier as well.

Not everything I mention here will make sense to everyone but hopefully if just one person begins to thinks, if indeed their is any truth involved in anything i provide , then I will be more than happy. So at the risk of being ridiculed , nothing new, I will Probobly share some pretty weird theories and connections , which may or may not be Coincedences. For the record I do not believe in Coincedence but with everything their is an exception to almost every rule and someti.

I have more than a few theories and recently things have begun to happen more and more and it also seems like things are starting to fall into place with more and more dots starting to be connected. I'm not sure when or where I'm gonna start so if your curious and want to check out the thread then I would suggest that you just bookmark this or bump it and check it every so often. I'm in the middle of other things at the moment but I hope to get something started on here tomorrow. Thanks

NAMASTE

Abraham

Quoting: YoU~€it¥~abE23 1554286

i know somethings from living in the area. pick a topic. i might be able to help you.

Quoting: forshell44

Ley lines

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554286

what i know about the lay line is that they are a powerful source. At Cahokia mounds where the lines lay are. As far as I know there was never a body found there or any shootings. the citys that are around them are washington park, national city, state park and granite city. the citys are very poor, and bad to walk in to. even the police are not to be trusted. but if you take a 1 mile circle around the mounds area it is safe to be in. i would never walk down when stairs when i got to the top of it. i am scared of heights. i think the united nations own the mounds but i am not for sure. I never did like that area. or even the granite city area. i have been sick with copd since i was a kid. it is a rare form. i say it is from the steel mills. but they would never admit to it. people in granite city age real fast and don't look right. i know alot of it is from the drugs but, i will say that the metal flakes that fly though the air in granite city has something to do with it too. i started comming to the ozarks on vacations in 1988. and there is something here that draws you here. it make you feel as if you are home and to never look back. you feel comfortable down here. i will never go back to granite again.

I'm not saying that the city that i was born in & lived in for my whole life is the center of the universe but the more that I uncover the more I begin to wonder. Id like to start this thread by talking about all of the strange and important facts or "conincedences" that I have found pertaining to St.Louis but there are other places suppounding St.louis such as southern IL, the NW Arkansas Ozarks region , and the NW Missouri Ozarks region, I would like to say that ever since I started instigating and researching my hometown & surroundings , I have wanted to & even encouraged others to do the same with their surroundings. I believe some people if not everyome live and or born in paticular places for a reason. I think most people would be suprised to find out the history and current events of their surroundings other than being dependent on the local or national media. So I mentioned some places other than St.Louis but they are are surrounding St.louis and I would eventually like to include facts and stories about the places I mentioned earlier as well.

Not everything I mention here will make sense to everyone but hopefully if just one person begins to thinks, if indeed their is any truth involved in anything i provide , then I will be more than happy. So at the risk of being ridiculed , nothing new, I will Probobly share some pretty weird theories and connections , which may or may not be Coincedences. For the record I do not believe in Coincedence but with everything their is an exception to almost every rule and someti.

I have more than a few theories and recently things have begun to happen more and more and it also seems like things are starting to fall into place with more and more dots starting to be connected. I'm not sure when or where I'm gonna start so if your curious and want to check out the thread then I would suggest that you just bookmark this or bump it and check it every so often. I'm in the middle of other things at the moment but I hope to get something started on here tomorrow. Thanks

NAMASTE

Abraham

Quoting: YoU~€it¥~abE23 1554286

i know somethings from living in the area. pick a topic. i might be able to help you.

Quoting: forshell44

Ley lines

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554286

what i know about the lay line is that they are a powerful source. At Cahokia mounds where the lines lay are. As far as I know there was never a body found there or any shootings. the citys that are around them are washington park, national city, state park and granite city. the citys are very poor, and bad to walk in to. even the police are not to be trusted. but if you take a 1 mile circle around the mounds area it is safe to be in. i would never walk down when stairs when i got to the top of it. i am scared of heights. i think the united nations own the mounds but i am not for sure. I never did like that area. or even the granite city area. i have been sick with copd since i was a kid. it is a rare form. i say it is from the steel mills. but they would never admit to it. people in granite city age real fast and don't look right. i know alot of it is from the drugs but, i will say that the metal flakes that fly though the air in granite city has something to do with it too. i started comming to the ozarks on vacations in 1988. and there is something here that draws you here. it make you feel as if you are home and to never look back. you feel comfortable down here. i will never go back to granite again.

i know somethings from living in the area. pick a topic. i might be able to help you.

Quoting: forshell44

Ley lines

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554286

what i know about the lay line is that they are a powerful source. At Cahokia mounds where the lines lay are. As far as I know there was never a body found there or any shootings. the citys that are around them are washington park, national city, state park and granite city. the citys are very poor, and bad to walk in to. even the police are not to be trusted. but if you take a 1 mile circle around the mounds area it is safe to be in. i would never walk down when stairs when i got to the top of it. i am scared of heights. i think the united nations own the mounds but i am not for sure. I never did like that area. or even the granite city area. i have been sick with copd since i was a kid. it is a rare form. i say it is from the steel mills. but they would never admit to it. people in granite city age real fast and don't look right. i know alot of it is from the drugs but, i will say that the metal flakes that fly though the air in granite city has something to do with it too. i started comming to the ozarks on vacations in 1988. and there is something here that draws you here. it make you feel as if you are home and to never look back. you feel comfortable down here. i will never go back to granite again.

Quoting: forshell44

Why not mention the abortion clinic?

Quoting: just a dude

i know right i did not even think about that place. for people that don't know the area. next to the abortion clinic is the hospital. it is called gateway hospital now. but years ago it was a catholic hospital that nuns ran. it was called st elizabeth hospital. And the free parking was at the abortion clinic. so you had to walk all past the protesters to get to the hospital.

I'm not saying that the city that i was born in & lived in for my whole life is the center of the universe but the more that I uncover the more I begin to wonder. Id like to start this thread by talking about all of the strange and important facts or "conincedences" that I have found pertaining to St.Louis but there are other places suppounding St.louis such as southern IL, the NW Arkansas Ozarks region , and the NW Missouri Ozarks region, I would like to say that ever since I started instigating and researching my hometown & surroundings , I have wanted to & even encouraged others to do the same with their surroundings. I believe some people if not everyome live and or born in paticular places for a reason. I think most people would be suprised to find out the history and current events of their surroundings other than being dependent on the local or national media. So I mentioned some places other than St.Louis but they are are surrounding St.louis and I would eventually like to include facts and stories about the places I mentioned earlier as well.

Not everything I mention here will make sense to everyone but hopefully if just one person begins to thinks, if indeed their is any truth involved in anything i provide , then I will be more than happy. So at the risk of being ridiculed , nothing new, I will Probobly share some pretty weird theories and connections , which may or may not be Coincedences. For the record I do not believe in Coincedence but with everything their is an exception to almost every rule and someti.

I have more than a few theories and recently things have begun to happen more and more and it also seems like things are starting to fall into place with more and more dots starting to be connected. I'm not sure when or where I'm gonna start so if your curious and want to check out the thread then I would suggest that you just bookmark this or bump it and check it every so often. I'm in the middle of other things at the moment but I hope to get something started on here tomorrow. Thanks

NAMASTE

Abraham

Quoting: YoU~€it¥~abE23 1554286

i know somethings from living in the area. pick a topic. i might be able to help you.

Quoting: forshell44

Ley lines

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554286

what i know about the lay line is that they are a powerful source. At Cahokia mounds where the lines lay are. As far as I know there was never a body found there or any shootings. the citys that are around them are washington park, national city, state park and granite city. the citys are very poor, and bad to walk in to. even the police are not to be trusted. but if you take a 1 mile circle around the mounds area it is safe to be in. i would never walk down when stairs when i got to the top of it. i am scared of heights. i think the united nations own the mounds but i am not for sure. I never did like that area. or even the granite city area. i have been sick with copd since i was a kid. it is a rare form. i say it is from the steel mills. but they would never admit to it. people in granite city age real fast and don't look right. i know alot of it is from the drugs but, i will say that the metal flakes that fly though the air in granite city has something to do with it too. i started comming to the ozarks on vacations in 1988. and there is something here that draws you here. it make you feel as if you are home and to never look back. you feel comfortable down here. i will never go back to granite again.

Quoting: forshell44

Very interesting perspective and it makes total sense. I'm just curious about one minor thing you mentioned. So did you say it was or wasn't a big deal going down monks mound steps with your fear of heights?

I have always been very very skeptical of granite city for some reason.

i know somethings from living in the area. pick a topic. i might be able to help you.

Quoting: forshell44

Ley lines

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554286

what i know about the lay line is that they are a powerful source. At Cahokia mounds where the lines lay are. As far as I know there was never a body found there or any shootings. the citys that are around them are washington park, national city, state park and granite city. the citys are very poor, and bad to walk in to. even the police are not to be trusted. but if you take a 1 mile circle around the mounds area it is safe to be in. i would never walk down when stairs when i got to the top of it. i am scared of heights. i think the united nations own the mounds but i am not for sure. I never did like that area. or even the granite city area. i have been sick with copd since i was a kid. it is a rare form. i say it is from the steel mills. but they would never admit to it. people in granite city age real fast and don't look right. i know alot of it is from the drugs but, i will say that the metal flakes that fly though the air in granite city has something to do with it too. i started comming to the ozarks on vacations in 1988. and there is something here that draws you here. it make you feel as if you are home and to never look back. you feel comfortable down here. i will never go back to granite again.

I'm not saying that the city that i was born in & lived in for my whole life is the center of the universe but the more that I uncover the more I begin to wonder. Id like to start this thread by talking about all of the strange and important facts or "conincedences" that I have found pertaining to St.Louis but there are other places suppounding St.louis such as southern IL, the NW Arkansas Ozarks region , and the NW Missouri Ozarks region, I would like to say that ever since I started instigating and researching my hometown & surroundings , I have wanted to & even encouraged others to do the same with their surroundings. I believe some people if not everyome live and or born in paticular places for a reason. I think most people would be suprised to find out the history and current events of their surroundings other than being dependent on the local or national media. So I mentioned some places other than St.Louis but they are are surrounding St.louis and I would eventually like to include facts and stories about the places I mentioned earlier as well.

Not everything I mention here will make sense to everyone but hopefully if just one person begins to thinks, if indeed their is any truth involved in anything i provide , then I will be more than happy. So at the risk of being ridiculed , nothing new, I will Probobly share some pretty weird theories and connections , which may or may not be Coincedences. For the record I do not believe in Coincedence but with everything their is an exception to almost every rule and someti.

I have more than a few theories and recently things have begun to happen more and more and it also seems like things are starting to fall into place with more and more dots starting to be connected. I'm not sure when or where I'm gonna start so if your curious and want to check out the thread then I would suggest that you just bookmark this or bump it and check it every so often. I'm in the middle of other things at the moment but I hope to get something started on here tomorrow. Thanks

NAMASTE

Abraham

Quoting: YoU~€it¥~abE23 1554286

i know somethings from living in the area. pick a topic. i might be able to help you.

i know somethings from living in the area. pick a topic. i might be able to help you.

Quoting: forshell44

Ley lines

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554286

what i know about the lay line is that they are a powerful source. At Cahokia mounds where the lines lay are. As far as I know there was never a body found there or any shootings. the citys that are around them are washington park, national city, state park and granite city. the citys are very poor, and bad to walk in to. even the police are not to be trusted. but if you take a 1 mile circle around the mounds area it is safe to be in. i would never walk down when stairs when i got to the top of it. i am scared of heights. i think the united nations own the mounds but i am not for sure. I never did like that area. or even the granite city area. i have been sick with copd since i was a kid. it is a rare form. i say it is from the steel mills. but they would never admit to it. people in granite city age real fast and don't look right. i know alot of it is from the drugs but, i will say that the metal flakes that fly though the air in granite city has something to do with it too. i started comming to the ozarks on vacations in 1988. and there is something here that draws you here. it make you feel as if you are home and to never look back. you feel comfortable down here. i will never go back to granite again.

Quoting: forshell44

Very interesting perspective and it makes total sense. I'm just curious about one minor thing you mentioned. So did you say it was or wasn't a big deal going down monks mound steps with your fear of heights?

I have always been very very skeptical of granite city for some reason.

Quoting: YOUCITY23 1554286

i will walk up the mounds but not down i am scared of heights.. why r u skeptical of gc? i mean does it scare you? or are there unanswer questions you are wondering about the area? i lived by kp for 28 years. and i am a women and 35 yrs old. for those that are wondering. cause some one said he or she. there is a drug going around granite now and it is called herion. it is killing people like crazy down there. i have never seen a drug kill people like this stuff is now. granite city was on nightly news a month ago because of the herion use. i seen many people die over the years of overdose but not like this stuff is doing. do you see at what i am saying.

what i know about the lay line is that they are a powerful source. At Cahokia mounds where the lines lay are. As far as I know there was never a body found there or any shootings. the citys that are around them are washington park, national city, state park and granite city. the citys are very poor, and bad to walk in to. even the police are not to be trusted. but if you take a 1 mile circle around the mounds area it is safe to be in. i would never walk down when stairs when i got to the top of it. i am scared of heights. i think the united nations own the mounds but i am not for sure. I never did like that area. or even the granite city area. i have been sick with copd since i was a kid. it is a rare form. i say it is from the steel mills. but they would never admit to it. people in granite city age real fast and don't look right. i know alot of it is from the drugs but, i will say that the metal flakes that fly though the air in granite city has something to do with it too. i started comming to the ozarks on vacations in 1988. and there is something here that draws you here. it make you feel as if you are home and to never look back. you feel comfortable down here. i will never go back to granite again.

Quoting: forshell44

Very interesting perspective and it makes total sense. I'm just curious about one minor thing you mentioned. So did you say it was or wasn't a big deal going down monks mound steps with your fear of heights?

I have always been very very skeptical of granite city for some reason.

Quoting: YOUCITY23 1554286

i will walk up the mounds but not down i am scared of heights.. why r u skeptical of gc? i mean does it scare you? or are there unanswer questions you are wondering about the area? i lived by kp for 28 years. and i am a women and 35 yrs old. for those that are wondering. cause some one said he or she. there is a drug going around granite now and it is called herion. it is killing people like crazy down there. i have never seen a drug kill people like this stuff is now. granite city was on nightly news a month ago because of the herion use. i seen many people die over the years of overdose but not like this stuff is doing. do you see at what i am saying.

Quoting: forshell44

I am not scared of GC but it just gives me bad vibes. You on the other hand give me good vibes. I understand far to well what you said about so many people overdosing or dying from heroin. It is getting really really bad. Granite city is next to East st.louis of course but it's also not to far from Chicago and right now on the West side of Chicago the are sellimg heroin on every corner like its a kids lemonade stand! Every day! For the past 3 years! It's always been easy to get heroin in Chi town but not like it is today! Don't get me wrong either , this isn't going on just only in Chicago. This had to be planned by the way. TPTB planned on making this drug money not to mention the effects it has in certain people , myself included, DOUBLE WHAMMY! MONEY & a SLAVE ! Seriously , the war and the heroin was part of the plan from the beggining. I've been clean since 11/20/11. Not that long really but I could see what was happening around me and I know what I have to do and what has to be done.

Wikipedia - Southern Illinois [link to en.wikipedia.org] Southern Illinois (most of which is known as "Little Egypt" or "Egypt") is the southern third of the state of Illinois. With the area code 618, the southern part of Illinois is geographically, culturally, and economically distinct from the rest of the state. The region is surrounded on three out of four sides by the most voluminous rivers in the United States, the Wabash and Ohio rivers to the east and south, and the Mississippi River and its connecting Missouri River to the west.

One thing I find really interesting is that Wikipedia made it a point to mention the area code. It's actually the very first thing it says! I find this interesting because of the number itself , 618.