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And it's a little unfair to attack some of us who continually see the US becoming the Cult of the Victim where everything is someone elses fault. TV has lots of messages besides the commercials so much that my sister, much to her credit, allows her children to only watch 5 hours of TV each week that she helps them choose and only after they have read a book or two.

The point of the reason I mentioned it was that banning alcohol ads seems absurdly inconsistent with the rest of the prog

it's a little unfair to attack some of us who continually see the US becoming the Cult of the Victim where everything is someone elses fault

Hey, I'm all against the cult of the victim. I think fat people suing food manufacturers is the stupidest thing I've heard. I'm all for personal responsibility, but I don't think I'm playing the victim here. I'm simply saying that keeping booze ads off TV would hurt nobody and make my life as a parent a lot easier.

That ad for Cocoa Puffs at 8am on Saturday is a lot more dangerous to an 3 year old's health than a Smirnoff ad after 9PM

Smirnoff is more dangerous to a 3 year old than Cocoa Puffs. I don't want my son to see ads for Smirnoff. And as I said, we also don't want him to see ads for Cocoa Puffs, so we work hard to keep him away from those. But children's TV has lots of options (PBS, weekday morning TV) that don't show ads. There's nothing like that for "grownup TV" except for PBS, and frankly we're ready to see something other than Moneyline with Lou Dobbs:-)

Well..what I meant was that given the choice the kid is probably gonna go for the sugar rush and isn't going to add guinness to his Super Sugar Crisp anytime soon:)

I don't really like TV though I own one and hopefully not buy one when we move to.fi since it's a great way to put your EEG to a flat line...even with the history channel and such it's coma inducing. Have you ever noticed when you go to a pub that has TVs, whether you are alone or with friends, how people tend to stare at them? I try to go to

Re: tvs in pubs. There's a great book, "Dublin Pub Lore", that talks about the rise and decline of pubs in Dublin. The pox of the TV is addressed there. I agree--televisions anywhere there's supposed to be socializing are a curse. I hate it when people throw a party but leave the TV on. That kills half or more of a room for meaningful social interaction.

I agree--televisions anywhere there's supposed to be socializing are a curse. I hate it when people throw a party but leave the TV on. That kills half or more of a room for meaningful social interaction.

That's fine and all, except for where sports on TV is concerned, such as Super Bowl parties, and the time I first met hfb and we were at a Boston.pm social thing at a bar, and it was the night Mark McGwire broke the long-standing home run record. Such things supercede normal socializing.:-)