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Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

Originally Posted by Ikari

I'm a physicist, and of course I wouldn't want to be monitored. It's just that we already are. Big Brother don't care about profession. But when it comes to lethal government force against its own citizens, we need to be very careful and watchful with how it exercises that power to ensure everything is kept within proper and reasonable means.

If Big Brother is good for the citizens, it's good for the Government.

This is not Big Brother, however. If you're lobbying for body cams on police, I can agree. But let's regularly show the type of scum these police officers have to deal with on a regular basis and not just have the media cherry pick which "cop scandal" they want to promote for ratings next. But no, we can't do that, because poor little Johnny and Jill criminal have privacy rights and we must protect the poor dears from being embarrassed.

"Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

Originally Posted by CanadaJohn

This is not Big Brother, however. If you're lobbying for body cams on police, I can agree. But let's regularly show the type of scum these police officers have to deal with on a regular basis and not just have the media cherry pick which "cop scandal" they want to promote for ratings next. But no, we can't do that, because poor little Johnny and Jill criminal have privacy rights and we must protect the poor dears from being embarrassed.

Ironically cops resist body cameras. If they didn't we could readily see these officers dealing with "scum". I suspect that there's not as much "scum" as cops would like us to believe.

Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

Originally Posted by reinoe

Sure. Politicians face that risk all the time. As do garbagemen, road construction crews, and postal workers among many others. All of whom voluntarily take their jobs.

Funny how your comparators to police officers are always those who have virtually no mental stress in their day to day work lives. And in what world are postal workers, garbage men, and construction crews videoed routinely in their jobs and that video emailed off to CNN for review? That's just nuts.

"Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

Originally Posted by csbrown28

There is a bigger problem. Let's say you are right and one out of every thousand is a problem (though I dispute that), there aren't enough cops willing to step forward and report the bad cops. When a cop sees another cop abusing his authority, is he not obligated to report that crime as any other crime? Aren't violations of the public trust egregious violations that all police should take seriously.

If you are allowed to create numbers out of thin air, then here is one I'm making up. if 99.9% of cops are good, then I speculate that 50%-70% of cops have seen other cops violating the rights of citizens and have done nothing about it.

Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

Originally Posted by CanadaJohn

Funny how your comparators to police officers are always those who have virtually no mental stress in their day to day work lives. And in what world are postal workers, garbage men, and construction crews videoed routinely in their jobs and that video emailed off to CNN for review? That's just nuts.

Those are all jobs that are in public view and those employees can be filmed at any time.

Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

Originally Posted by CanadaJohn

My only comment on this is to ask who in their right mind would want to be a police officer in this day and in this political/social climate? Constantly watched/taped, constantly second guessed, constantly accused of being criminal or thugs, and constantly having an entitled public up in their faces everywhere they go and work.

Being a police officer today has to be one of if not the most stressful of jobs going. You couldn't pay me enough to be one and I'm grateful for those who do the job and do it well.

I wonder the same thing about politicians. Every single nuance of your life is open and scrutinized, and even if you cured cancer and brought puppies back from the dead half the population would criticize you for it.

If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.