When you get down to 1.01, it doesn't make much difference which currency it's in.

That's true, when it's that cheap. But I've noticed more and more publishers lately completely disregarding currency conversions and the accepted price of games here - for example - Guild Wars 2 - $60, here it costs £50, more than any standard edition PC game I can remember - even CoD games are 'only' £40. Risen 2 as well - $50 in the US, £40 over here. I haven't bought either of them yet, and I won't be until they're on sale, not for those prices.

I am going to create a sequel to Salsas Indie game recommendation thread. Before anyone asks, yes he is fine with it. Anyway, I am considering integrating the recommendations other Gaffers made in that thread into my posts for the new thread. Either together with the Indie games I found or as a separate "recommended by other gaffers in the old thread"-post.

Considering how many of the posters were still posting in the thread, I doubt even interested posters were keeping up with other Gaffers recommendations (I am interested, but I still havent kept up with it.), which is why I think the recommended games, aside from Salsas OT, have been barely looked at.

Any thoughts? Integrating them (all games divided by genre)? Extra posts for my new list and the ones already recommended before in the first thread (Meaning we'd have 2 posts with genre listings?)?

I am sort of leaning towards compiling the Gaffer recommendations together with my list. Would anyone be bothered by that? Since its already been posted and "duplicate" content so to say.

I think you've got the right idea to keep the OP updated with gaffer recommendations, but maybe just the title, the price, and two lines of description with a link to the full-on recommendation post to keep the OP from growing too bloated?

I think you've got the right idea to keep the OP updated with gaffer recommendations, but maybe just the title, the price, and two lines of description with a link to the full-on recommendation post to keep the OP from growing too bloated?

OP is a bit bloated in my opinion. Not many people will go through this list. What about an update with recently released indie games in each genre?

I think you've got the right idea to keep the OP updated with gaffer recommendations, but maybe just the title, the price, and two lines of description with a link to the full-on recommendation post to keep the OP from growing too bloated?

Hm, thats an idea. Would save me quite a bit of time too considering that I wouldnt need to rewrite and format stuff. However, how realistic is it that users would click on those links in a thread with 50 games with screenshots? Am I overestimating peoples drive just to check out something visually appealing to them? (Clicking on stuff with nice screenshots but ignoring the recommendations that are just 2 lines plus links?)

In the end it comes down to how much people were reading beyond the first page in Salsas thread. If most havent, then it absolutely wouldn't be bad to give the recommendations already mentioned another chance to shine, know what I mean?
Besides other Gaffers recommendation in that thread are at least as valid as my own on the games I would like to post about.

OP is a bit bloated in my opinion. Not many people will go through this list. What about an update with recently released indie games in each genre?

Someone else suggested that to me too. And its a hard task to narrow it down to a few. I mean what about a theoretical great Indie gem I discovered today but it has been released 3 years ago with no mention on GAF whatsoever? I have my issues with constraining a thread of "great indie games to check out that you missed" to a certain time period.

Originally Posted by Nelo Ice

It's a miracle if you can get anyone to read OPs nowadays unless you put Read the OP in the title lol. I'm still shocked at how many people actually read my Amazon OP.

Well its not like they need to READ much in this case. I assume most people skip through and stop at games that have appealing screenshots, then read the description and decide whether to give it a try or not.

Hm, thats an idea. Would save me quite a bit of time too considering that I wouldnt need to rewrite and format stuff. However, how realistic is it that users would click on those links in a thread with 50 games with screenshots? Am I overestimating peoples drive just to check out something visually appealing to them? (Clicking on stuff with nice screenshots but ignoring the recommendations that are just 2 lines plus links?)

In the end it comes down to how much people were reading beyond the first page in Salsas thread. If most havent, then it absolutely wouldn't be bad to give the recommendations already mentioned another chance to shine, know what I mean?
Besides other Gaffers recommendation in that thread are at least as valid as my own on the games I would like to post about.

I disagree with them. Screeenshots are HUGELY convenient when looking at new games. Text should probably be kept a bit succinct, though.

It's a miracle if you can get anyone to read OPs nowadays unless you put Read the OP in the title lol. I'm still shocked at how many people actually read my Amazon OP.

Your Amazon OP is basically just a price list-- there's no reason not to read it.

Originally Posted by EternalGamer

I disagree with them. Screeenshots are HUGELY convenient when looking at new games. Text should probably be kept a bit succinct, though.

Agreed. But keep the screenshots reasonable in size.

Originally Posted by Toma

Hm, thats an idea. Would save me quite a bit of time too considering that I wouldnt need to rewrite and format stuff. However, how realistic is it that users would click on those links in a thread with 50 games with screenshots? Am I overestimating peoples drive just to check out something visually appealing to them? (Clicking on stuff with nice screenshots but ignoring the recommendations that are just 2 lines plus links?)

In the end it comes down to how much people were reading beyond the first page in Salsas thread. If most havent, then it absolutely wouldn't be bad to give the recommendations already mentioned another chance to shine, know what I mean?
Besides other Gaffers recommendation in that thread are at least as valid as my own on the games I would like to post about.

I expect that most people read as much as they can until they need to sleep or go to work. If, when they come back and the thread has grown by 20 pages, they probably skip to the last page and catch up from there, ignoring the last 19 pages. That's how I do it, sorry to say. I'd do maybe daily updates to the OP and (timestamp the updates, like "Updated July 15" so a quick ctrl+F would spare us the Highlights for Kids tedium), or do a daily summary post of all the new recommendations and link to the summary post from the OP? Either way, don't count on people reading the entire thread if they have to step away for a bit.

Your Amazon OP is basically just a price list-- there's no reason not to read it.

I pretty much did that in my other thread and no one read it :lol. Someone actually raged at me not updating my first post about EA deals Amazon had even though I made multiple posts after that and updated the OP.

Originally Posted by Toma

Well its not like they need to READ much in this case. I assume most people skip through and stop at games that have appealing screenshots, then read the description and decide whether to give it a try or not.

I am in the USA, I have used my LIVE account before (which shows account history for SFIV) with this game, on this very computer, though potentially a different OS. I can login to the live site with the password and see the game, it just fails if I use the ingame popup thing.

It was so long ago that I can't remember exactly if this was an issue for me but maybe your password has too many characters.

Update: Restarting Steam didn't fix it, rebooting the computer didn't fix it, and now apparently that Live update screwed up my Windows update, so I'm downloading some 16 old patches for Microsoft stuff that I presumably got 6 months ago.

The Microsoft internet test says everything works for me except UPNP. I don't have a local profile because I had played the game before on a different partition. I am now in the process of uninstalling GFWL and the GFWL redistributable, and I'm going to try to manually download the latest one(s) after that. Any other ideas to get GFWL account login working? Even the internet seems to basically be useless about the particular ID not found error.

Side note, I had to restart Steam after installing the game for the first time since I got an error 80 popup.

Fantastic. Apparently you can't log into the GFWL client if your password contains a ' character. I seem to have verified this by changing to another, longer password that contains DIFFERENT special characters, yet that one works and changing back to the original one does not.

What's especially great about this is that I USED THIS SAME ACCOUNT like two years ago for SFIV on Steam and the chances that I changed my password during that time are probably pretty low. And you can also login and change your password just fine with the live.xbox.com site...just not the Marketplace client or GFWL overlay ingame because of that particular character, which you apparently aren't warned about.

My profile is now downloaded and I'm logged into SFIV, what a hassle. It says no saved data found but I suppose that's because my save file was on a different partition and there's no cloud saving (that's not a big deal to me) or something.

Fantastic. Apparently you can't log into the GFWL client if your password contains a ' character. I seem to have verified this by changing to another, longer password that contains DIFFERENT special characters, yet that one works and changing back to the original one does not.

What's especially great about this is that I USED THIS SAME ACCOUNT like two years ago for SFIV on Steam and the chances that I changed my password during that time are probably pretty low. And you can also login and change your password just fine with the live.xbox.com site...just not the Marketplace client or GFWL overlay ingame because of that particular character, which you apparently aren't warned about.

My profile is now downloaded and I'm logged into SFIV, what a hassle. It says no saved data found but I suppose that's because my save file was on a different partition and there's no cloud saving (that's not a big deal to me) or something.

that probably happened when they changed the security on the system not long ago (to try to help against the "fifa account stolen" issues). Sounds about right.

Games for Windows saves are always stored on the USER folder on Windows, but since you're changing passwords and probably re-created a profile on the machine, it's under another folder (because each time you "Retrieve a profile" on windows, it creates a new key and all the saves are associated with that key). It's kinda stupid, but easily fixable. For Street Fighter IV, it doesn't matter.

Sorry to importunate, the official thread does not have any activity going on so i'm forced to ask here.

The save files dissappear. I did research, the problem can be solved by adjusting some settings in the flashplayer. The other issue is with the web browser. What is exactly the web browser option that affects the game? I have the browse set to wipeout history, cache and cookies after shutdown.

I lost 4 game hours yesterday, it's king of annoying having to sacrifice web security to play machinarium XD

Sorry to importunate, the official thread does not have any activity going on so i'm forced to ask here.

The save files dissappear. I did research, the problem can be solved by adjusting some settings in the flashplayer. The other issue is with the web browser. What is exactly the web browser option that affects the game? I have the browse set to wipeout history, cache and cookies after shutdown.

I lost 4 game hours yesterday, it's king of annoying having to sacrifice web security to play machinarium XD

Just copy it to directory where you have your Machinarium.exe file and run it. You will be asked if you want to store the remote game's file to local dir and or restore this file from the local dir to the place which is used by the game.

At least, I can give you the save location for another similar game called 1000 Amps. The save lied somewhere in:

Also how is that mediocre? It for one doesn't include the daily deals, secondly all the packs probably aren't up yet as they will be added until the sale goes live, and third, most of the main publishers are represented with packs already.

Originally Posted by Wok

I will make the same answer as before.

Thanks for the credit :)

Originally Posted by aristotle

I like how all these sites are posting stuff we've known for like a week. Do they even source the proper people?

Seemingly not, although the info is available publicly on the CDR site, so they could always have compiled the lists themselves.

A few more packs have been added since they posted their lists as well, I'll post the updated list soon, just got to add the new entries.

Also how is that mediocre? It for one doesn't include the daily deals, secondly all the packs probably aren't up yet as they will be added until the sale goes live, and third, most of the main publishers are represented with packs already.

What I meant was that it would be a mediocre sale if those were the only bundles. I also removed my statement after considering the daily deals and such.

It's been nearly 2 weeks since the sale was supposed to start, I keep looking at these cheap DLC packs wanting to buy something to cure the itch, right now I'm looking at sonic generation's DLC at 99p :|