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>>>it seems like several nights here lately we have reported this new pope has done something entirely new and today he has done it again. this has to do with the first-ever
vatican
disclosure, and a highly unusual surprisingly honest interview with a reporter. we get the story today from nbc's
chris jansing
.

>> reporter: from the big, enthusiastic crowds he draws to the little used car he drives, francis has a new style. in an interview with a
newspaper reporter
, he made clear the
vatican
is in for a shake-up and he does not want to be treated like royalty. heads of the churches have often been narcissists, flattered by their courtiers.

>>i think the pope showed up, he did what? just like we are.

>> reporter: for the first time ever, he opened the books on the very private
vatican
banks, real -- revealing the numbers of $18 million, the job? to change the often secretive church bureaucracy, they are ramping to change, which means fewer orders for rome. in a blatant interview, he told the newspaper this
vatican
-centered view is not one i share, and i will do everything to change it. at 76, he is in a hurry.

>>he knows what needs to be done, he is not going to let anyone stop him.

>> reporter: he own told
vatican police
to crack down on gossip, the old making way for the new,
chris jansing
, new