tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6735872836237213620.post3167563675711303755..comments2017-08-20T18:52:49.029-04:00Comments on <img src="http://oi58.tinypic.com/29uss9t.jpg"> Making One: Unpredictable God, Unpredictable MeJonathan Cannonnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6735872836237213620.post-27483336852432831792012-11-13T10:57:56.126-05:002012-11-13T10:57:56.126-05:00Probably no one else will see your comment, Brent....Probably no one else will see your comment, Brent. I, since, have come to feel like Leonard in that Compatibilism is just a semantic game to retain the words free will (which they recognize as existing perceptually and in everyday experience) while fundamentally rejecting it in favor of a deterministic bias. I&#39;ll take a look at the canonizer topic.Jonathan Cannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16998764195741319613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6735872836237213620.post-86157798579112904532012-11-12T20:49:25.950-05:002012-11-12T20:49:25.950-05:00Very interesting to hear everyone&#39;s beliefs on...<br />Very interesting to hear everyone&#39;s beliefs on this favorite topic of mine. We&#39;ve started a survey topic on this issue at Canonizer.com, to track what and why people believe on this issue, concisely and quantitatively. So far, the compatibalists have taken an early consensus lead. It&#39;d be great to get some of the current beliefs mentioned here included in this survey topic, (Brent.Allsophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12433683365877496993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6735872836237213620.post-40054992194923614392012-04-20T14:10:48.794-04:002012-04-20T14:10:48.794-04:00Thanks for your comment, Dad. I personally take it...Thanks for your comment, Dad. I personally take it as a given that I have some free will. That makes my post more an argument about what consequences the assumption of free will leads to if I mix it with some kind of physical determinism. And I suppose it is a rationalization of my belief in free will.<br /><br />Bertrand Russell talks about physical causal laws and psychological causal laws in aJonathan Cannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16998764195741319613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6735872836237213620.post-13267091284959278072012-04-18T11:58:13.853-04:002012-04-18T11:58:13.853-04:00An approximate comment from Auden: &quot;Give me a...An approximate comment from Auden: &quot;Give me a behaviorist and an electroshock machine and I&#39;ll have him reciting the Athanasian Creed in a week.&quot; I think this question of determinism is one where our human limitations become clearest. If I am forced to think that life is deterministic, then I will be forced to think that, and that&#39;s the end of the story. But the FEELING is that DadCannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01812978026907611524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6735872836237213620.post-78195079119931224002012-03-30T14:29:27.058-04:002012-03-30T14:29:27.058-04:00I think you may be right, Leonard. Free will may b...I think you may be right, Leonard. Free will may be a fundamental natural law of existence, and thus unprovable and underivable. I would be good with that. The reason I don&#39;t just accept this outright is that neuroscience, psychology, and biology are still making progress by assuming that everything is deterministic. I don&#39;t want to pigeon hole free will into the parts we can&#39;t Jonathan Cannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16998764195741319613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6735872836237213620.post-79316334610244104692012-03-28T18:05:11.828-04:002012-03-28T18:05:11.828-04:00Jonathan -
I also quite enjoyed your post. All ...Jonathan - <br /><br />I also quite enjoyed your post. All I have time to add at the moment is that with all the reading and thinking of done about this, I honestly can&#39;t see the reason why we would actually doubt our actual free will. I just don&#39;t see compelling reasons why we should believe that our actions are ultimately predictable by natural laws (rather than occuring in accordanceLeonard Reilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6735872836237213620.post-31734548862151694492012-03-28T11:15:58.159-04:002012-03-28T11:15:58.159-04:00I think I&#39;m admitting defeat for my gut feelin...I think I&#39;m admitting defeat for my gut feeling that I have some will not dictated by natural laws. In practice, I assume I have some free will and don&#39;t worry about it. It&#39;s really only an intellectual dilemma for me. Has someone written down some of your reasons for believing in free will even if it is an illusion? They might give me an alternative solution to my dilemma.Jonathan Cannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16998764195741319613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6735872836237213620.post-55048933309794711262012-03-27T12:46:41.130-04:002012-03-27T12:46:41.130-04:00Johnathan, I really appreciate this post. Wonderfu...Johnathan, I really appreciate this post. Wonderful thoughts. Personally, I have a suspicion that genuine free will is an illusion. But I think that it is pragmatic to pretend that genuine free will is a reality.Gary Lee Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08683158451997311112noreply@blogger.com