Redemption through little Grom Hellscream II, which will grow up being friends with Thrall's child and having the green jesus for a mentor?

Hmm...

I could actually get behind this. I've always said that a 10-20 year time jump could be greatly beneficial for the Lore. Seeing characters like Thrall, Jaina and Varian into maturity and get some people like Thrall Jr. and Anduin and very specifically not Me'dan into respectable prominence as "hero" characters. As much as I like our current Lore protaganists; their stories have all essentially been told now so they only serve to give way to the next generation.

Originally Posted by Trassk

oh and garrosh wasn't?

at least groms self sacrifice redeemed him.

No, Garrosh was just plain evil. He's a step beyond mega-tool or hyper-douche.

But I've always said that Grom's sacrifice was hardly even redeeming. If you single-handedly mess your entire race up that badly then fixing your mistake isn't a redemption. It's just a given. Not doing it would've made him either a coward or a villain. As Illidan demonstrated, there are some things from which one cannot be redeemed no matter how much they atone they will always have made their mistake and that fact cannot be redeemed.