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Okay look, let's get it out the way, has Trump hijacked this event?>> Well, I think it's a distraction. We came here because finally, the world has accepted that we're fractured, that we're in dire trouble, whether it's the rise in authoritarianism, the alpha male unleashing a wave of misogyny in regard to women.

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The global economy being terribly fragile for working people. A disaster inequality, massive unemployment, insecurity, mistrust of institutions, but also of course a risk for a growth-lead or consumption-lead economy.>> All right, we know where you stand now then.>> But if you are, if you came here to get the global solutions to negotiate with people, everybody having a stake in it, and Trump rolls in with his America first message, what does it say?

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>> Well, okay, he's a disruptor, we all know this, but let me play devil's advocate. Maybe a little bit of that is not a bad thing.>> What this forum is about is cooperation, co-design. If we're gonna do that, we need negotiated solutions. So you need people to say, yes, my country's important, our workers are critically important.

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But in an interconnected world, how do we get the balance right? What's the right space of a future that's not only now got our global workforce in trouble, but has to build and deal with the opportunities and the threats of industry's