On the first computer (on which I put the most effort having only tried the second before I wrote this email... just in case)...
I went into msconfig and unchecked everything in the Startup Tab.
While running soju, looked at the packet filter on our external firewall which is set to allow all through outbound from this device but log the data and I didn't see any outbound traffic stopped.

Any more suggestions as to what I can check that would stop me at this portion of the program?

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