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That shit makes me feel like crap. I am very picky about my preworkouts though

From what I felt, it is best to do it 10-15 minutes before you walk into the gym. Seems to hit you hard and then wears off so you gotta time it right. Works best when you do a couple scoops a few minutes before ya hit your first set of weights. Tomorrow morning Im gonna chug it down when Im unloading my shit in my locker! That way when Im walking to my first exercise it I will be really focused and ready!

I went back and forth from craze to jacked but I can't find craze anymore... I need a new pre wo so I'm trying the dbol/tne next, lol.

Hey Bro I was hooked on craze and prodigy for a long time. Then of course things change due to banning and what not. I too was looking for a while. This is the most legit pwo i've used since and stuff has me going for hours and wanting to camp out at my gym. http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/g...-servings.html

Today I decided to take 3 scoops. Big mistake! I was so irritated as this wore off it wasn't even funny. Had to go to a meeting and it was pure hell having to sit still. I forgot to bring a water and it made it worse.

You have to drink tons of water on this and please do not exceed the two scoops cause it will make you feel like a caged gorilla. It also increased my sex drive and that was pure torture because my gf was not with me and I do not cheat on her. If I was single I would have gone somewhere to get laid.

I actually tried STIMAHOLIC the other day when one of my workout partners was swearing by it. I got a good pump out of it, I usually use Jack3d or Hyde and loved Craze until they pulled it. Not sure if Craze came back in a new form but if so, haven't tried it/can't vouch.

Yay! A topic that I can meaningfully contribute. I manage an independent sports nutrition store. Venders give me tons of free shit to try, plus I do tons of research on every product.

The products available now are not the same products from 6 months ago. At least half of the best selling pre workouts have been reformulated due to recent FDA regulations banning the amounts of stims that are allowed in products and also certain compounds like DMAA that have been outright banned.

Here are just a few off of the top of my head that I know had to reformulate:

Hyde
Jacked3d
Bullnox
C4
HemoRage
Assult
1MR
Neurocore

The new Jacked is shit. It is so bad that the company voluntarily pulled it to reformulate it again to try and salvage the name before they ruin it's reputation forever. The OP is stupid. All of the current Jacked3 formulas suck donkey dick.

Currently, from the new crop of pre-workouts I would have to rank the following pre-workouts as my favorites:

People talking about craze must have tubs still of the old batch, because the company was ordered to destroy all product. It contained methamphetamine-like compounds. The company was prosecuted for it.

If you guys want try the best pre-workout I have ever tried, see if you can find someone in your area that can get their hands on X-1 by a company called Powermill Labs. They are a local Atlanta upstart. X-1 doesn't just get you going, but it is full of mood support supplements to make you feel good. I am usually happy to be in the gym anyway, but this shit makes me feel twice as good to be in the gym.

I used the original jack3d for 2 years before they pulled it. The micro is absolute garbage by comparison. The first time I took it I felt like it was almost as good but lacking something. After the second time, my body barely registered that I had taken anything. Needles to say, it went in the trash.