I just became tbay bucs newest member..........
here is my first post......

I am more concerned about how Mark Brunell beat us in a playoff game on one good leg with no good arms. I guess that Skins team was just better than us. Minus that one year when we won our only superbowl most teams do beat us though. Even if our stadium looks mean with that stupid pirate ship we put in it to fill in the void left by our non fans I still dont think we are gooder than what we thought we are.
Anyway - remember when Doug Williams was like the laughing stock of the league until he went to Washington and won a superbowl. That was awesome.
So Ill just sit back and wait for the "welcome to the board Doug Williams stuff" looking forward to it.

So - I dont know if there is a thread about our nickname - you will have to excuse me im knew...
but is a Buccaneer the name for a gay pirate? Not that there is anything wrong with gay pirates, or losing to Mark Brunell in the playoffs.

my latest contribution......i would like to thank gerald mccoy and shipley because i am having so much fun on your site rite now

Yes. Please, I am in need of education. You, and others with a similar need to educate, are clearly one step away from an NFL coaching job so arguments counter to your assumptions must simply be made by the blind and uninformed. Please - share your particular brand of brilliance.

You left out Point 3: In it's current state, the Skins O-Line cannot provide consistent protection for a 7 step drop and would be troubled even in a 5 step drop scheme. In a traditional offense, RGIII would be exposed to brutal blind side hits every time he drops back to pass. Given the state of our line, our running game would be ineffective and, as such, play action would have a limited ability to slow down the rush. Without the ability to manufacture points through the option, we would be playing from behind often allowing opposing D's to pin back their ears against our already overmatched line. Even using his athleticism to create time, traditional scrambling would expose him to hits by LB's or DB's w/ a running head start at him and/or hits similar to the ones taken while running the designed option.

Hi Vinny! Yup, overriding the coach's authority can lead to nothing but long term success for players.

Because during a traditional pass play, w/out the option, the entire DL is not "trying to crush him, to punish him as much as they possibly can[.]" Insanity.

The option has one DL assigned hit the QB. True enough - at the same time, the hit generally can be seen coming and RGII has been very good about bracing for such hits. Additionally, the option has been successful in (1) manufacturing points; (2) slowing down the rush in both passing off the option and in the traditional drop backs; and (3) limiting the number of tacklers hitting RGIII on any running play or scramble b/c, just as they must account for RGIII, given his ability to read the entire field, the defenders cannot sell out to converge on him.

I am not a coach, I am Joe schmoe watching an offense that doesn't work like a traditional drop back/play action passing game. At the same time, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the hits RGIII is exposed to are different than the hits he would be exposed to in a traditional offense.

It also doesn't take a rocket scientist to see RGIII is comfortable in the offense and adapting to NFL speed within it. As opposed to being pounded into the dirt time and time again in a drop back offense, and gaining neither confidence or adapting to the violence, RGIII is getting to play the game he is used to, taking hits in a manner he is accustomed to. To many young QB's get gun-shy, start getting happy feet, lose their confidence and have their careers cut-short by being forced playing both an unfamiliar offense on a bad team where they get hit every drop back. Once they start hearing feet, most never recover. Ever.

To poor uneducated me, the offensive design makes the best use of our currently configured O-line and creates an opportunity for RGIII to succeed now and in the future. You don't. I completely understand your points just as I have completely understood others with similar positions ... no need to educate me further. I understand the risks created by this offense and disagree that, without entirely writing off this season, they are greater than those incurred by inserting RGIII into a traditional NFL offense.

Seriously m8, I know you are a smart guy, but trying to argue just for the sake of arguing.................

You cannot sit there and spin it that RG3 is just as safe running the double and triple option than if he weren't. You cannot make the arguement that having 11 or more rushes per game with a 210 lb 6'1'' QB is smart if you are thinking about breaking in the rookie slow and steady. RG3 is getting absolutely CRUSHED out there, and noone can say he isn't. Yes we are not coaches, but it doesn't take a coach to see that one of these times, he isn't getting up if this continues week in and week out. We paid a RIDICULOUS amount to get this guy, seriously. Just look at the Nationals and Strasburg. They won't let the guy throw over 150 innings. Its called protecting your investment. RG3 isn't bulletproof, and has had some injuries in the past. It would be foolish to think that at this current pace, he can finish out a season healthy and just fine.

Just saying that the coaches are really rolling the dice, after we gave up two additional #1's and a #2. Thats alot to risk to have your 210 lb rookie QB be your qb, as well as your rushing threat, taking on MLB's and 265 lb defensive ends every other play.