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I would say that you are right on the very verge of "phasing" into the Astral at the stage you describe. What I suggest you try to do is to use your imagination to create a doorway into the Astral and know when it becomes available to open and pass through, or simply keep moving you awareness forward.

ok cool will check that link out tonight......Visualization becomes a problem for me cause my mind is too loud. I almost ALWAYS have a song running through my head. I am very musical and throughout the enitre day (no joke) I have an assortment of songs running through my head and this causes me to not be able to concentrate solely on what it is I need to concentrate on. Any suggestions? thank you very much!!!

i've been meditating for a while now and it's still extremely hard to keep my mind quiet when i want to. songs are also a huge part of the noise in my head. i've only been able to stop the song running through my head a few times just by wanting it to stop. the other times i've found that if i purposefully think of a different song until the one i was thinking about before goes away that it works very well. just keep on replacing the song you are thinking of w/ another and another until you are replacing them so fast that you lose track. this works well for me but you'll have to play around w/ it to see what works best for you.

HEllo I am new to this board. Well I've been dabbling in OBE stuff for a few years now. I had a couple as a child, and as said in other places, it just draws you back.

Ok so heres what happened last night and usually happens.

I lay down, get comfortable, hands feet and stuff go numb, start seeing moving colors and stuff, and my body feels like it is being moved around alot, being sucked toward something, or pulled back, sometimes I feel like im huge, sometimes very small. Last night was the longest I let this go for, which was about probably 20 minutes. Its very interesting and I think that I am close, but am at a loss of what to do next......could someome point me in the right direction? Am i almost there? What is all this stuff that already has happened??