CHART OF THE DAY: Despite Android's Rise, It's Losing Developer Supporthttp://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-ios-vs-android-2011-7/comments
en-usWed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500Sun, 02 Aug 2015 19:32:26 -0400Jay Yarowhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e21485a4bd7c82471010000TalalSat, 16 Jul 2011 04:14:18 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e21485a4bd7c82471010000
Android developers need not to develop for Android either ... They should sit back relaxed and enjoy the success of IOS in peace, otherwise the other way around ...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e20cd69ccd1d53570140000Martin HillFri, 15 Jul 2011 19:29:45 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e20cd69ccd1d53570140000
Of course you need to add it together to find out the total number of iOS apps. Just like the Android total includes all phone and tablet apps. You Android fans and your smartphone blinkers. You desperately try to get everyone to only look at phones as that is the only segment of the mobile market where Android is doing well and frantically try and stop people looking at the complete picture - the whole OS platform.
-Marthttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e20916fccd1d5be0f130000JPuglisiLLCFri, 15 Jul 2011 15:13:51 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e20916fccd1d5be0f130000
I'm sorry, but when did two points make a trend? Perhaps this should be examined over a longer period of time.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e208c1049e2ae0e0b140000Good Android MoneyFri, 15 Jul 2011 14:50:56 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e208c1049e2ae0e0b140000
Wrong. I'm looking at numbers that show iOS is slipping behind for a 2nd month. Flurry data is flawed as is yours.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e20831eccd1d5ff78240000simonc86Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:12:46 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e20831eccd1d5ff78240000
hmmm thats odd as i've seen current statistics that state the complete opposite - presented by reuters.
I think i know who i would rather trust tbh... these statistics seem to be biasedhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e207b5c4bd7c8e013280000BbeSFri, 15 Jul 2011 13:39:40 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e207b5c4bd7c8e013280000
As you've stated yourself "65% of iPad apps are Universal apps which also work on the iPhone", so your numbers are skewed. You can't simply add the two together.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e206424ccd1d5e4440c0000Steve PhilpotFri, 15 Jul 2011 12:00:36 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e206424ccd1d5e4440c0000
Actually you're the one providing subjective opinions based on fanboyism!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e205d824bd7c85969100000srsairbagsFri, 15 Jul 2011 11:32:18 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e205d824bd7c85969100000
hmm . . but the android market share is increasing vs iOS . . . guess the apps in question are not major brandname appshttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e204a7249e2ae1e05310000maryleeFri, 15 Jul 2011 10:10:58 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e204a7249e2ae1e05310000
Isn't it possible that the slow down can be attributed to the fact that Android developers were playing catch up with Android Apps? Everyone already had an iPhone app, so they were playing catch up by creating the Android version of their App? I'd be curious to know how many of these are Android specific. It makes sense to me that the growth of Android Apps would slow down now that most companies have both their Android and iPhone apps launched.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e203625cadcbb4673240000Martin HillFri, 15 Jul 2011 08:44:21 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e203625cadcbb4673240000
Yes, 49.5% is indeed impressive, but the point is that for the first time in 3 years, Android's market share gains have halted and now started going backwards. This is a major turnabout.
If you think that iPhone gains due to Verizon are going to halt now, then you have no idea whatsoever of the dynamics of the snowball effect of people coming out of having been locked into existing contracts itching to switch. They don't all finish their 2 year contracts at the same time you know.
The iPhone is already the most popular phone on Verizon as well as AT&T beating all of the "highly rated" Android contenders.
China Mobile and the iPhone 5 are more than enough to keep up the iPhone's trajectory.
-Marthttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e203458cadcbb2977060000Martin HillFri, 15 Jul 2011 08:36:40 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e203458cadcbb2977060000
I'm afraid you're the one who is spouting unsupported opinion. Just go back and look at Distimo's graph from April where they project Android to overtake iOS in July and you will see they project the "Apple App Store for iPhone" will have hit 371,675 by now with Android just behind on 332,114.
Now notice that there is a separate line titled "Apple App Store for iPad" which they project to have reached 102,690 by now.
No idea where they put the "Apple App Store for iPod touch", but add iPhone and iPad together and what do you get? Why iOS App numbers of 475,000, far greater than all Android Apps put together even by their own figures.
Now in case you try to argue that we should only compare smartphones like all Android fans always cry, the fact is that over 65% of iPad apps are Universal apps which also work on the iPhone.
So, now that I've provided some objective evidence to support my argument, care to bring anything to the table yourself or are you just going to fling insults?
-Marthttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e201bf6cadcbb0338290000timhobbesFri, 15 Jul 2011 06:52:38 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e201bf6cadcbb0338290000
You are only providing subjective opinions to feed your fanboyism, not real facts.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e2007914bd7c86a414c0000Martin HillFri, 15 Jul 2011 05:25:37 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e2007914bd7c86a414c0000
Android app numbers are only growing faster if you twist the stats like Distmo did and not include the 100,000 and growing iPad apps in the iOS total, despite counting all Android apps in Android's total. Absolutely shamelessly fraudulent.
It's even worse once you subtract the 45% of ANdroid apps that are spamware.
When you actually count all iOS apps, Android will not be catching up to iOS anytime soon.
-Marthttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1ff26b49e2ae4e56320000RegisFri, 15 Jul 2011 03:55:23 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1ff26b49e2ae4e56320000
Honestly? I started new Android project a year ago in my free time, right now I'm finishing it and don't want to write for Android anymore, the speed of new Android releases and updates is crazy, it's almost impossible to keep up :( You don't know how your app react in many different devices, there are many many free apps, it's really hard.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1fb485ccd1d51c1a150000MarvinThu, 14 Jul 2011 23:31:17 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1fb485ccd1d51c1a150000
[CHART OF THE DAY: Despite Android's Rise, It's Losing Developer Support]
Hmm.. Just reading the title it seems ominous, but after looking at Flurry's website, they only have data for developers signed up with them AND using their software during development.. I would think this is similar to saying the iPad is on it's way out just looking at Korea and how small a share it has compared to Samsung's products.. All the chart shows is that there is a drop in the number of Android developers that decided to sign up with Flurry Analytics.. Unless we see a more comprehensive dataset it is a severely biased result. The title should append "based on number of developers using Flurry Analytics".http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1fb0e449e2aedd70140000MarvinThu, 14 Jul 2011 23:15:48 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1fb0e449e2aedd70140000
[Considering the far lower income developers make from paid Android apps ($103 million in 2010 vs $1.7 billion for iOS developers)..]
Whenever people quote that I get really curious as to the distribution curve of the percentage of the revenue received by the percentage of companies producing the paid apps.. It would really be disappointing to see 90% of the revenue being made by only a small percentage of developers/companies and it would really show how many really do succeed in each OS's app marketplace..http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f90aeccd1d5ab561a0000TheMacAdvocateThu, 14 Jul 2011 20:58:22 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f90aeccd1d5ab561a0000
Verizon was a factor. The fact that the iPhone 4 is a year old makes it kinda moot. The iPhone 5 will make the 2Q growth look like a rounding error.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f86cacadcbbcf53150000timhobbesThu, 14 Jul 2011 20:16:10 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f86cacadcbbcf53150000
49.5% is a pretty good figure specially if you take into account how fast it was.
Also, the years-awaited Verizon iPhone was released this quarter which makes it a pretty atypical quarter in terms of growth for the I-Phone... this will be hard to repeat.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f85cacadcbb52481e0000timhobbesThu, 14 Jul 2011 20:11:54 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f85cacadcbb52481e0000
Which numbers are those? The number of Android apps is growing faster by other accounts and it was predicted that it would surpass the number of iOS apps this semester.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f74d14bd7c8525f120000Martin HillThu, 14 Jul 2011 18:59:29 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f74d14bd7c8525f120000
Actually, Android is plateauing while iOS is growing.
IDC reports that Android's share of the US smartphone market dropped for the first time from 52.4% in Q4 2010 to 49.5% in Q1 2011, a drop of 2.9 points or 5.5% quarter to quarter.
In contrast, the iPhone gained significantly larger share going from 17.2% to 29.5%, an increase of 12.3 points or 42%.
NPD agrees reporting that Android's share of quarterly sales in the US smartphone market shrank 6% quarter-to-quarter in Q1 2011 to 50%. In contrast Apple's iPhone grew 47% to capture 28% of all smartphone sales in the USA.
IDC also reports that Apple had the highest growth of any mobile phone vendor worldwide in Q1 2011 year over year of 115% with second place ZTE growing 45%, Samsung growing 9% and HTC and Moto not even on the chart.
And these figures all include Android tablets because the vast bulk of them also include cellular radios and carrier subscriptions.
In contrast, Apple's figures don't include the iPod touch or iPad (which should of course be included when comparing operating systems and app platforms). iOS and Android as a whole are neck and neck in quarterly unit sales.
-Marthttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f7410cadcbb762d3b0000Martin HillThu, 14 Jul 2011 18:56:16 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f7410cadcbb762d3b0000
Problem is that all other developer income, developer interest and developer numbers figures back up Flurry's data.
-Marthttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f7393ccd1d59b2a460000Martin HillThu, 14 Jul 2011 18:54:11 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f7393ccd1d59b2a460000
Considering the far lower income developers make from paid Android apps ($103 million in 2010 vs $1.7 billion for iOS developers) and the fact that they are not making up the difference in ad-supported free apps (far lower download numbers of free and paid Android apps (5% all app downloads vs 71% to iOS devices)), this is not at all surprising.
The far larger installed base of iOS devices (200 million with the vast majority still active due to only 17 million iPhones being sold in the first 2 years) compared to only 100 million Android devices and quarterly sales of all iOS devices being very close to total Android numbers, means that there are just not as many Android customers out there.
With the recent plateauing in Android sales and growth of iOS sales (Android marketshare dropped 6% in the USA while the iPhone alone (not including the iPod touch or iPad) grew 42% in Q1 2011 according to NPD and IDC demonstrates that the gap between Android and iOS users is not shrinking fast at all. Android’s global sales growth rate dropped to 3 percent in the March quarter from 7.5 percent in the fourth quarter and 9.5 percent in the September quarter.
Add in the fact that the iPod touch is continuing its 4-year dominance of the mini-tablet segment with iPods continuing to capture 70% of the market with the iPod touch making up a growing 61% of the iPod total.
Then look at the fact that the iPad looks to be emulating the iPod's 10-year streak of obliterating the competition with web marketshare figures of a gob-smacking 53x greater than any Android competitors showing that the small increase in Android sales share figures are mostly channel stuffing, it is very obvious that iOS is the hot destination for development.
-Marthttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f67e449e2aea25e5a0000timhobbesThu, 14 Jul 2011 18:04:20 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f67e449e2aea25e5a0000
Exactly. The percentage of Android developers using Flurry Analytics is way lower, given that most Android developers prefer to use Google Analytics (for obvious reasons).http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f66d9cadcbb3e1a4f0000timhobbesThu, 14 Jul 2011 17:59:53 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f66d9cadcbb3e1a4f0000
4) Android developers have no interest in using Flurry Analytics services.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f652e4bd7c8853e550000John GillsThu, 14 Jul 2011 17:52:46 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f652e4bd7c8853e550000
Larry Page just announced 10M+ G+ users. The success of Google+ will turn the tide back. <a href="https://plus.google.com/u/0/106189723444098348646/posts" target="_blank">https://plus.google.com/u/0/106189723444098348646/posts</a>http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f63cecadcbb251e080000CEBThu, 14 Jul 2011 17:46:54 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f63cecadcbb251e080000
This sounds a bit suspicious to me... Android growth worldwide has been stellar for the last year. It has led the operators to revamp their networks due to the added signalling. It may be worthwile to compare different sources for the same information. Cheers,http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f6360cadcbb231e0f0000Joe TierneyThu, 14 Jul 2011 17:45:04 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f6360cadcbb231e0f0000
Both these platforms are white hot. It will be the quality of the team, not the platform, that dictates success or failure.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f635749e2ae185d400000CarterThu, 14 Jul 2011 17:44:55 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f635749e2ae185d400000
Actually the chart does not demonstrate at all whether total development is up or down. All it reports is the percentage split in development by OS. All segments could be up but iOS is only demonstrated as having a larger of the starts by this graph.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f631c4bd7c87c423d0000NeekThu, 14 Jul 2011 17:43:56 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f631c4bd7c87c423d0000
This isn't surprising at all.
1) iOS apps (and customers) pay way better than those for Android
2) Android is still fragmented despite Google's efforts to curb this.
3) See #1.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f62e049e2ae185d380000lewisshepherdThu, 14 Jul 2011 17:42:56 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f62e049e2ae185d380000
Just curious about this report compared to the earlier February Flurry report (same blog) showing a fast start (vs Android) of WinPhone7 developers ... was this current report only about Apple/Android to the exclusion of any others? The February report: <a href="http://blog.flurry.com/bid/56660/App-Developers-Endorse-Nokia-Microsoft-Partnership" target="_blank">http://blog.flurry.com/bid/56660/App-Developers-Endorse-Nokia-Microsoft-Partnership</a>http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f5d40ccd1d5840b350000Evan RuffThu, 14 Jul 2011 17:18:56 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f5d40ccd1d5840b350000
This is a false proxy. Android includes it's own analytic package, making the need for something like Flurry completely redundant. <a href="http://code.google.com/mobile/analytics/docs/android/" target="_blank">http://code.google.com/mobile/analytics/docs/android/</a>http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f5ab049e2aeef4c370000Dan Frommer's Empty Chair (Currently in the Trash Room Waiting to be Burned)Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:08:00 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4e1f5ab049e2aeef4c370000
Not surprised at all. Look around. Look at what is happening.