The following Sina Weibo microblog posts are the top 5 most popular regarding the murder of a young woman at the hands of a married couple in Heilongjiang province. Combined, they have over 250k reshares/forwards and 90k comments…

@沈阳晚报: Jiamusi City, Girl Victim’s Last Weixin [WeChat Message]: Helping a Pregnant Auntie Home, Arrived at Her Home. Because of being unable to have sex due to being pregnant, a Jiamusi city Huanan county woman thought of finding a girl to please her husband. On the street, she encountered Little Xuan and pretended to be unwell, asking her to help her home. Waiting at home, the husband sexually assaulted her but while she was resisting, the couple suffocated her to death with blankets. This warmhearted weixin became Little Xuan’s final words… http://t.cn/zQ6ysUm

@微博新鲜事: #Grieving for Angelic Girl# Heilongjiang pregnant woman Tan X, in order to satisfy husband Bai X’s sexual needs, pretended that her belly hurt to deceive 17-year-old girl Hu Yixuan into helping her to her home; At home, she deceived her into drinking yogurt mixed with hynotic drugs. After the victim lost consciousness, Bai X discovered that she was on her period, and after carrying out indecent acts with her, murdered her, and buried her body. The girl’s final WeChat message was: “Helping a pregnant auntie home, arrived at her home”. To be so evil! Severely punish the murderer!

白小起: There is an episode in Criminal Minds where a father takes his child to a shopping mall, has the child pretend to be lost, go up to kind-hearted women crying, say he and his dad arranged to meet in a stairwell, and ask the woman to take him there. Consequently, innumerable women were murdered. Therefore, if there’s a problem, go to the police. Never for any reason follow any one anywhere, because you don’t know what’s waiting for you there. #Good Works Should Be Premised Upon Guaranteeing One’s Safety#

@新浪视频: Surveillance footage of the scene [of the crime] released! Pregnant Woman Pretends To Be Sick Deceiving Girl to Provide for Husband’s Sexual Assault, Murders Girl After Molestation. While on her way to a friend’s home, a 17-year-old encountered a pregnant woman asking her to help her to her home. The girl’s kindheartedness instead resulted in the end of a blossoming life. After helping the pregnant woman upstairs [to her home], the husband waiting at home drugged her unconscious and sexually assaulted her, as well as used blankets to suffocate her to death. In the video, one can see footage of the girl helping the pregnant woman home and the couple transporting the body after the murder. http://t.cn/zQ6Rwwc

The above video itself has been viewed over 4.8m times since it was uploaded late last night. Notable in the report is that the husband’s “attitude towards confessing to the crime is extremely poor”. The news anchor spends some time at the end expressing her own outrage.

@头条新闻: Pregnant Woman Pretends To Be Sick to Help Husband Find Victim for Sexual Assault, Girl Who Helped Her Home is Murdered. On the 24th, while on her way to a friend’s home, 17-year-old girl Hu Yixuan, who lives in Huannan county of Heilongjiang province, encountered a pregnant woman pretending that her belly was hurting, asking her to help her back to her home upstairs. After helping her upstairs, the husband waiting at home wanted to sexually assault the girl. The girl was suffocated to death with a blanket by the couple while fighting back. On the 28th, the murderers were brought to justice. http://t.cn/zQ6POpM

A pair of sickos, their child will be a sicko too, might as well just kill it immediately, destroy root and branch, with no descendents to remain.

文盲上微薄[吉林长春]:

I think the most vile effect of this incident is in how they exploited someone’s kindheartedness to do bad things. The most immediate result will be the damaging the idea that good deeds are rewarded while bad deeds are punished, causing people to no longer be willing and no longer dare to do good deeds. Deceiving people by exploiting their greed could even be forgiven because as long as one isn’t greedy, one won’t be deceived, but to take advantage of other people’s kindaheartedness to do evil, the negative impact on society will be too ruinous. The level of damage to society exceeds the crime itself. Although we have the right to know what happened, I don’t want this kind of news to be widely spread, because the farther it is spread, the more severe the damage will be to people’s relationships to each other in society.

大剑CM[北京]:

The man can be immediately shot, the woman can be shot after giving birth, and the child can be given to kin.

Fuck, with this kind of social norms, you dare to ask people to do good deeds?!

子系吉吉：

Why not just spend some money and hire one [prostitute] to come to one’s home…? Fuck.

Stranger-孙晓鹤：

CNM, who the fuck will still dare to help others now? The way I see it, in this day and age, simply not having the desire to harm others already TM makes one a saint.

super露小美：

This couple must have bubbles [nothing] in their heads! Talk about vile. What kind of wife delivers women to their husband? Poor girl. Talk about not accumulating good karma for one’s unborn child!

诱色可吃：

In this day and age, only by being cold and indifferent can one protect oneself…

money_money_go_my_home：

Men who can’t endure [not having sex] should be killed.

荷蘭箪麥：

Can’t believe something as preposterous as this exists!

梦回草甸：

Kindhearted people are unable to believe just how bad/evil these kind of people can be.

The Sina Weibo hashtag topic page for this news story currently features a poll asking users: Will you still maintain your kindheartedness [willingness to help others]?. The two options are “I will, holding fast to my conscience is precisely to prevent evil from running amok” and “I won’t, I will only protect myself and my family“. At time of translation, there were nearly 30,000 votes, with nearly 3 out of 4 voters voting for the latter option.

The longer, more detailed articles linked in those weibo posts say more about what might have happened.

Sounds like she may have been drugged but at one point started resisting. In their panic, fearing that her cries would draw attention, the couple tried to silence her and ended up suffocating her to death.

Pretty stereotypical accidental murder scenario you see in tv shows and movies.

biggj

I think if you bring a girl to your house and drug and try to rape her, then releasing the girl is not really an option. Unless you want the girl to bring the police back to where you live.

Kai

It is if your conscience returns. Instead of digging a deeper hole and hoping to get away with it, you can stop digging and hope you get away with it.

There’s some ambiguity in the various reports about whether or not she fought back. Some reports say she realized what was happening and resisted. Other reports seem to suggest she was murdered while under. Likewise, it doesn’t seem like she was actually raped but she may have been molested. Details are a bit sketchy and accounts seem to be contradictory.

But let’s say if she were under and unaware of what happened, there might be some ways to try playing it off depending on what evidence you might be leaving. If the husband didn’t rape her or leave any marks or injuries, they could wait until she wakes up and feign relief that she’s finally come to, suggesting she had fainted for some reason (hot weather? heatstroke?) and that maybe she should go see a doctor or something. Their seeming concern and encouragement to go to the hospital might even result in her thinking they were a nice couple and that it was probably nothing requiring the trouble of a hospital visit.

Granted, if she wakes up much later, that’d be harder to play off, because there would be questions of why emergency services weren’t summoned, or why they didn’t perhaps try using her cell phone to call family or friends for help.

If they were really smart and didn’t panic, they could’ve immediately called the girl’s friends or family to come get her and give their innocuous account of how the wife had a bellyache or whatever and the nice girl helped them only to faint in their presence so of course they’re going to immediately try to return the favor by helping the girl, calling her parents, and doing the responsible thing of making sure she is taken care of.

Again, all of this is predicated on them suddenly recovering their conscience and deciding not to go through with what was intended to be a rape. If the husband had decided not to rape after she was under and upon discovering her on her period, he could’ve put her clothes back on and tried fixing the situation as best he could in the above manner. There are still risks of being found out of course, but so does murder, and murder is considerably more inhuman than just trying to cover up a botched crime.

If she wasn’t under and was already conscious of what they had intended to do, then I guess murder was necessary to keep her silent.

I’m just speculating here based on some of the reported details and that the wife reportedly suggested letting the girl go.

biggj

Yeah, you are right. All those scenarios could have played out. But everything leading up to the murder is pretty crazy. I only read what on here but I mean she is tricking a girl to come back and have sex with her husband without the poor girl knowing anything. I just don’t understand what they expected to do with her after. Just let her go? Even if they drug her and then he rapes her I’m sure the girl will know she had been raped. I just see it like this. If they go though all this crazy shit just to get her husband laid….murder is not that huge of a leap past that. I think the risk of letting her go was higher then if they murdered her. Murder is a bigger crime…but a higher chance of not getting caught. I don’t know…it all sounds nuts to me.

Kai

True, hard to imagine how they planned on covering it up after the husband rapes the girl, without involving murder. Totally agree this is completely fucked up.

biggj

This is off the subject but I have not played pc games pretty much since summer hit. But I was reading the news and china is coming out with like a “call of duty” type game with Chinese taking back the Diaoyu islands. It’s made by the chinese military I think. I saw a video of it and it looks pretty good. This link has a video of some of game play on it. I think it would be fun if it was in English.”for me anyway”

China men’s dick doesn’t even reach the uterus. How can any harm be done?

But I would be careful with laowai-sex at this time, and especially xiao heizi sex (even be careful when not pregnant at this one) .

elizabeth

You’ll never know when she will fall off the bed and land on her tummy in the heat of passion.

Nah, it’s probably one of those grandmother’s tales they listened to.

http://simplydesigned.tumblr.com/ maybeabanana

Female physical insecurity maybe?

elizabeth

Maybe, but then if I am insecure, then I wouldn’t want anyone else to come near my husband, not to mention have sex with him.

But then again, he might have threatened to leave her if she didn’t do it.

TJDubs

Couldn’t be bothered to lie back and spread her legs? So she goes out of her way to find a young girl to con, drug, and kill?

elizabeth

Why not? Twisted minds think in mysterious ways.

Anyway, it’s not easy being pregnant. She could use a break.

mr.wiener

I doubt many people are feeling sympathy for her.

elizabeth

I don’t sympathize with her but that could be what she wanted – a break.

lonetrey / Dan

Why not just have sex with the one you’re married to?

YourSupremeCommander

Why dont you change your name to Lonely Dan once and for all?

Mighty曹

LOL! Yeah, Dan, what’s with the ‘lonetrey’? Is that ‘single 3’?

lonetrey / Dan

Honestly? I made a nonsensical username up back when I was looking to replace my highschool login ID name that I’ve been using for years. I didn’t want my username to have any meaning, since I was sick of everyone with their “AznAWESOME” or “xo_sexybbygrl193874_ox” or “Pikachu4lyfe”.

First thing that popped into my head was “Lone Wolf” when I saw a “Three Wolf Moon” Tshirt.

Trey was a music artist that was playing on the radio at that exact moment.

Bam. “Lonetrey”.

Years later, whenever people ask me about it the story is usually retconned to “Oh. I thought of a single lonely tree on a hill”. Much easier to explain =________=

Mighty曹

Let’s work on a more catchy name. How about:
LuvaBoiDan
UrAznTreat
Beg4MoDan
PimpDaddyDan
HoeMaestroDan

http://500px.com/justinrjones whiskersthecat

DaCheezeStandsAloneDan

Mighty曹

DaHotCheezeMeltsAloneDan

http://500px.com/justinrjones whiskersthecat

LetDatMrWeinerSwangDan

linette lee

Or just look at signs all around you. You can always come up with something.

Bewerofdorg
maximukocupazi450
employemuswashan

lonetrey / Dan

…. Like how you have that single “UrAznTreat” standing out of a row of Dan-usernames >_>

Mighty曹

So that’s your pick!

UrAznTreat

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

biggj

I would have went with FaggyDan…oh wait..that’s not on the list. hahah That was just a joke Dan, You seem like the good dude.

mr.wiener

I’m, going with PimpDaddyDan.

http://500px.com/justinrjones whiskersthecat

I came up with “whiskersthecat” simply because I had no idea what name to use, and I wasn’t feeling creative.

lonetrey / Dan

LOL Why do you say that? I know people like to have sex with more than one people, but once you agree to marriage, you should know what you’re signing up for.

Why do people not simple choose to not get married then?

biggj

Well Dan, some people want to have their cake and eat it too. I love my wife and that’s special. No other woman can fill that. But I can be in lust with many woman.Including my wife.

This message was brought to you by the letter “A” for adultery. hahaha

YourSupremeCommander

And what fun is that?

Mighty曹

Don’t you corrupt Dan’s pristine virgin mind.

lonetrey / Dan

=_____________=

I’m just saying, the perp didn’t have to go and kill a girl when he had a wife already! It’s a redundancy within another redundancy.

Mighty曹

Some people get tired of eating the same dish everyday and have a craving to try a new dish.

http://500px.com/justinrjones whiskersthecat

I could eat spicy Thai basil chicken stir fry every day for the rest of my life and never get tired of it. I need the female equivalent of spicy Thai basil chicken stir fry.

A Crowley

Thai food kicks the ball out of the stadium. The satay hmmmmm

Mighty曹

Tony Jaa kicks balls in Tom Yum Goong.

A Crowley

??

Mighty曹

It’s a martial art movie. Watch it.

Baphomet

Thanks dude!!

Mighty曹

Tony Jaa is one Thai dude who can kick Jet Li’s ass.

Baphomet

Tony Jaa? Don’t like Thais much but will have to see it.

Mighty曹

That and sushi/sashimi with lots of wasabi.

http://500px.com/justinrjones whiskersthecat

I read on Shanghaiist that the lady had been caught in bed with another man, and her way of making it up to him was to promise him she’d get him a virgin to have sex with. Apparently this was their incredibly awful method of doing so.

elizabeth

Who’s baby is that? Her husband’s or lover’s?

Kai

Their same source article (from Phoenix Online, also linked to in the weibo posts above) said that’s what the neighborhood gossip was.

Later in the same article, an “insider” (or literally “someone know who knows what happened”) says the gossip isn’t true and what the insider says happened is similar to the summaries that were used in the weibo posts.

Kai

Just saw a news report on TV about this story. Didn’t catch all of it but it did show the husband being interviewed on camera behind bars and what he said seems to corroborate the neighborhood gossip reported in earlier reports, that the wife had been unfaithful to him or something and subsequently had offered to use her pregnancy to find a girl to “make it up to him”. Apparently there was some history of domestic violence as well because of it, and I think he said they didn’t separate cuz he still loved her or something.

As for how the murder unfolded, apparently as she was out, they decided to silence her by murdering her. When he went to suffocate her, she began struggling, and the wife helped by holding her down.

Fucked up.

mr.wiener

….Ye gods……A bullet for him most definitely and one for her once she has delivered the baby? I don’t know . Neither of them should ever see daylight again. Depraved

剑胆琴心

omg!
the world is crazy…
this couple should be killed…
sigh! i always try to help people in street, no i wont be so kind .
once two women selling honey came to my home, asked my father to give them some water, so my father gave them water. then they took out some smoked meat let my father smell first then tried to sell to him.but, they put medicine on the meat, my father got drugged.then they asked my father to change money, my father gave them money but they gave my father several hundred all fake money.hahahaha!
and another time one stranger woman came to my home forgot what she was selling, just tried to talk to my mom, my mom shouted fuck off loudly at her,then that woman left.
then my father got mad, scold at my mom why she was so rude to stranger. then my mom just said enough, ok?
hahaha!

Archie

and then?

Brett

eattot, wow

elizabeth

We can actually subtly test if the situation is genuine.

I once knew a troubled teenager whose father was in jail. One day, she asked if I could meet her father because he wanted to discuss how to help her. I said ok. Then she asked me to write a letter the request permission for him to leave jail to meet me outside. The authorities would allow that if I did. I declined but offered to visit him in jail instead.

He didn’t want to meet me after that.

lonetrey / Dan

May I ask, what did you mean by:
“sigh! i always try to help people in street, no i wont be so kind.”?

biggj

I think Now instead of No. Thats the least of my worries reading that crazy shit hahah

lonetrey / Dan

ooh, I see what she meant now.

RonghuiLi

Surely it is.

Lord_Helmet

Please stop drinking the tap water.

Mighty曹

She should drink arsenic.

biggj

Jesus Mighty, You’re cold as ice. hahahaha

剑胆琴心

you should drink piss and eat shit.
what the hell i said wrong to you?
you come here tease girls here around, what a loser….

A Crowley

But her new avatar looks mighty fine, stroking….the hairs on my chin:D

Mighty曹

… and slowly nodding with an evil grin.

(Classic old chinese movies)

Kevin Yu

Why would you or your parents even let strangers into your home?

Germandude

LOL. Your posts on here are often the funniest shit that can be found on the internet.

Also, it appears that the saying “A daughter comes after her father” holds some truth.
Please continue sharing your wisdoms.

elizabeth

Your parents complement each other well. One acts more from the brain, the other acts more from the heart.

yatiirockstar

poor girl :( well, that said, don’t follow or help strangers.

YourSupremeCommander

“don’t help strangers” – next time when you are in trouble and need help, I will make sure I remember this.

it’s very difficult not to help people. but then again, who really can you trust.

biggj

You can trust me….I have some candy back in my van if you want to come have some….. hahahaha

Mighty曹

As a kid I was always taught to assist the elderly and women who needs help. I’m done doing that.

biggj

Yep, My new thing for pregnant woman is “punch in the face first, ask questions later” I can’t take any chances anymore.

Germandude

Help people in need, other than the ones that want money. Use your senses when helping assisting others and keep your eyes and ears open. It feels good to help others. Don’t get betrayers win the upper hand and let them discourage you.

Mighty曹

Different situation calls for varying degree of help. I was always told never try to save a drowning person who doesn’t know how to swim to avoid getting drowned myself. One time I did just that without even thinking. So everything is circumstantial.

Jonah

On the other hand, if I never followed any strangers, I’d still be in the hospital where I was born in.
All my friends and family members were strangers to me once.

B*tches, Leave

*sigh* *facepalm* and *shaking head*
here it comes, the “see!!! don’t help others!!!” article is here … rejoice!
Have a nice warm feeling in your tummy when deciding not to help others …

xuedi

having sex due pregnancy i totally ok, it does not harm or even influence the unborn in any way. Its just a tradition / though thing.

It has been common sense in China for a long time.I think only the poorly-educated don’t know this.

Kai

I’m not sure about that. Even in the West, a lot of people are apprehensive about having sex during pregnancy. Just do a search and you’ll see the sheer number of people asking that very question. Honestly, I’d say the majority of people everywhere are pretty uncertain about sex during pregnancy, especially visible pregnancy.

maja

the problem here is that in the west you can easily check on internet, if you don’t trust internet you pick up your phone and call your doctor, if you don’t trust your doctor you can ask a friend, etc. even more if I were to ask my grandma something about sex during pregnancy she would just tell I did/didn’t but I’m not really sure.

Kai

Um, isn’t that the same thing in China? People can easily check on the internet, ask a doctor, or their friends and family, etc. Except for the doctor (and sometimes even they aren’t excepted — its not as if doctors are all-knowing), both the internet and your social circle could be landmines of “common sense” or “misinformation”.

The fact is, having sex during pregnancy is not without its risks too. It’s just that sex isn’t entirely ruled out. Same thing when the woman is on her period. I wager most women avoid sex during their period, but it’s not like you can’t physically have sex during that time without serious reprecussions. Most people just don’t want to have sex during their period or pregnancy (and there are exceptions, believe me), but I do suspect this was more about them possibly thinking they shouldn’t have sex during pregnancy.

…unless the gossip and hearsay about the wife trying to make it up to her husband for some past indescretion prove true. There are quite a few details about both what exactly happened and their motives that remains uncertain.

I lean towards something being seriously wrong with their heads. I’m tempted to say the husband is an asshole and the wife wasn’t strong to avoid becoming complicit and an accessory to his criminal whims. It’d be one of those stereotypical stories of an abuser who cows the abused into doing terrible things. Still, this is just speculation on my part.

RonghuiLi

YES You are right.

a chinese

the Pregnant woman cheated her husband first,so she thought of finding a girl to please her husband.that’s fact

elizabeth

Is this a from a reliable source? You mean she has a lover and was obliged to find another sexual partner for her soon-to-be ex-husband so she could have a family with her lover?

Wololoo

I think he meant, the man is then allowed to have sex with another woman just one time (for everytime she cheated on him).

But I can hardly believe that this is true.

maja

I think he meant to find a reason on why the wife should go out of her way to find an unconscious woman for her husband. In effect it seems there’s no reason, maybe just becuse of matrimonial extortion.

Irvin

Some weird ass shit everyday.

Brett

Since when can you not have sex during pregnancy?

lonetrey / Dan

Was wondering about this too. A comment or two in Chinasmack & Weibo comments mention a prostitute, which made me think to myself, “why not just have sex with the wife for free? FFS.”

http://simplydesigned.tumblr.com/ maybeabanana

They should go on the internet more. Given their logical thinking is already rottened and voided.

When you’re a Chinese couple who don’t understand how the wife got pregnant in the first place.

narsfweasels

Yes, this a common misconception I’ve found with Chinese women and men “Can’t have sex when pregnant! It’s bad for the baby!” Mind you, with a lot of Chinese women giving up soap, shampoo, moisturiser and washing in general during pregnancy as it’s “Bad for the baby” one cannot be surprised that their husbands don’t want to touch them.

Germandude

Because!

Alex Brendel

ummmmmmmmmmm………..when she says “no” because she has no desire for sex while pregnant? I’m just guessing here…….

Kai

If we accept that she was willing to go this far for her husband, then I doubt her lack of desire was a factor. It sounds more like the thinking that sex during pregnancy is dangerous for the pregnancy, which is a notion that is pervasive throughout the world, not just China.

mattman_183

That was exactly what I was going to say. This is what happens when you cripple google and only have Baidu to use for info.

elizabeth

Unbelievable. How depraved can the human mind be? Thumbs up to the news anchor. Way to go lady! We just have to be smart when helping others.

The Enlightened One

Oh great… well you can all pretty much count on absolutely no help at all when you get into trouble here in China.

It just seems that all the kind hearted people here that try to help out run into one of these situations:

1) They drown
2) Get cheated out of money
3) Get drugged and murdered/sexually assaulted

I agree that Animal’s answer wasn’t any good, but what else could he say? yeah fml, better leave for the US right now before I get killed. Please, your answer just dragged you down to his level.
In this case I would suggest people to still retain their basic conscience, not get discouraged by retards like this couple and if possible maybe be a little wary in the future. But man this case angers me, hope the couple both get death sentence and its cases like this that get me fired up about how some can disagree with the death sentence.

The Enlightened One

Boring response… listen “Animal”, I love China and I want to see it improve probably more than most Chinese care to see. I am not just some visitor. I have lived here for seven years, probably saw more of the country than you. I have married a Chinese woman… and I am good friends with many Chinese in online gaming groups, local night markets, discussions etc.

If everytime somebody helps someone in this country they get sued, murdered or something… you can bet your ass I am welcome to leave and I bet you would want to leave too if you could.

carlstar

Helping is the worst thing anyone can do in China and you are right that you should no longer expect help, just on lookers watching you die. This is China and it is a ruined country.

Some old woman fell off a bike next to me the other day so my new Chinese instincts kicked in and i walked away and never looked back.
Chinese, woman, old, injury = possible scam that judge will rule in her favour.

The Enlightened One

That’s the messed up things about it. Most of them want to help in their hearts. They are just afraid of ridiculous Chinese reprisals… China should pass a basic good samaritan law or it is doomed… there have just been too many cases where people were punished for helping.

A Crowley

Most of them want to help in their hearts.

The problem with that is, due to the confucian notion of the group, and inner and outer circles, we as wai guo ren are so far removed, we may never really know what they feel and think. Call me a bit jaded but I am not so sure most of them do want to.

Strangerland

Mate, confucian China mainland existed pre-communism era. This is what laowais forget when they talk about Chiba mainland: thinking how the society is relevant with China pre-communism era. They do not.

If you want to see Chinese with real confucian values, think of overseas Chinese; those who left the country pre-communism era, and those who’re borned from such families- they’d be close representation of ancient Chinese confucian values compared to those Chinese who already went through Mao-isn, not to mention those Cultural Revolution and Great Leap Forward disaster.

It’s sad but, I think mainland Chinese nowadays couldn’t be far removed from their roots than ever. Think of Chinese overseas, those who are Taiwanese, Hongkongese, Malaysian, Singaporean, those who resided in western countries since pre-Mao era(not those who just recently leave China-too communist still). You’d see that these overseas Chinese retains more confucian and ancient Chinese values than their so-called mainlander counterparts.
This because, leaving China pre-Mao, they have the advantage of being clean cut from Mao’s disasters. So they are more likely to be closer in values, traditions, ways of life- than those mainlanders.

James Wang

Your understanding of confucianism is very shallow. You really has to read 孟子，荀子 and 春秋 thoroughly to really understand confucianism. In fact, Mao cares very little for some German dude named Marx. Maoist communism is only the facade. The meat of Mao’s methods comes from 孙子，荀子，曹操 and 曾国藩。

James Wang

For all the oversea chinese, or taiwanese or HKers I’ve met, none can even tell me what the 十三经 is. Only a portion of them knows what 四书五经 is, but only 2 of them knows that 大学and 中庸were actually chapters from the 礼记。if your idea of confucianism is burning incense to your ancestor or wearing a chongsan or bashing mainland china just becaus you were taught by your cold war minded education system, then i must tell you that Mao is in the same league as 曹操。Remember大学？ It says in it:苟日新，日日新，又日新。•••故君子无所不用其极。日新其民，以至其极者，这一百年，只有老毛一人。

James Wang

If you have read and understood the first two chapters of 孟子，you would know that the core of an empire is synchronicity. 所谓一呼百应者，所谓与民同甘共苦者，君之道。it dosen’t mean that you make no mistakes or suffer no set backs or casualties, but it means that “when we thrive, we all thrive, when we suffer, we all suffer”. Therefore, an empire should an entity of common values(virtues) but not a entity of common interest. This is not my words, but from the 孟子。

A Crowley

When do all become not “just some visitor”, been living here on and off for 7 years, even you marry a Chinese wife….you will ALWAYS be an outsider. Not personal against you, but it IS the status quo here. Let’s face it, no pensions are conferred to foreigners, are they not?

Today

Well assimilation is a process plus why would a country that is struggling to give pensions to its own citizens give to people ( who most likely) hold citizenship of another country and are probably well off. And from my knowledge no countries giveensions to people who hold citizenship of another country

A Crowley

Fair enough, but this I’m different from other foreigners because….no matter how much chinese you speak, how long you married a chinese woman, nor how many kids you have, you will always be the big nosed round eyed foreigner, with all the pros and cons that entails. Case in point, a guy I know has chinese wife, two kids, apartment, business the whole nine yards in Guangzhou, tries to come back with his Chinese ID card (he got the green card!) gets shunted into the foreigners line, he doth protest, but the staff laugh and touch the hair on his arms and push him into the line for foreigners….point is, even a green card here, you are always an outsider.

biggj

Even some chinese are outsiders. I don’t know why foreigners can’t fathom the idea of not being excepted. I hear people say they are not excepted all time. They just have to except it. It is what it is. Like you said there is nothing a foreigner can do to ever be excepted. If anyone can name one foreigner that is fully excepted in china, I’ll tip my hat to them.

A Crowley

I am sure you mean accepted, but you are right.

biggj

Yeah, I suck at spelling and writing.

Mighty曹

That’s a good sign. It means you got some good stuff.

biggj

Only the best for me.

Mighty曹

Hahaha…funny how the misspelling was NOT consistent.

loki

大山

biggj

Still just a white guy. :)

Tommy Wu

Why would any white guy want to be accepted by Chinese society as one of them? I hate most of the Chinese.

Today

Wow you get offended way to easily. I lnow that this may be an extreme example, but the first chinese to graduate from yale, got american cotizenship renounced due to white american policy and had to sneak back to usa to see his son graduate (from yale) and youre saying your not being accepted?

Fast forward to present day, I’d say foreingers not being accepted is actually a good thing for them because white people in general get preferential treatment, you might not agree with me but think, a white person who can speak ok chinese can survive and be extremely popular even if he has no college degree. Yes foreigners may not be ‘accepted’ in the normal sense per se but hey you get the preferential treatment so keep complianing and hopefully one day you will get ‘accepted’ and seeing laowai isnt all that exciting after all.

Furthermore think asians have been around in america for years, whites in china?

Baphomet

Maybe I do get offended too easily, but SO WHAT? To use a quote from the great man, Winston churchill himself, Up with this I will not put!

Robert Rou

“the great man, Winston churchill”

Churchill may have had few redeeming characteristics, but this man that you call “great” was a notorious racist and an imperialist that obsessed over British world domination. He hated the idea that India may ever get out centuries under the British yoke and resorted to calling people like Gandhi “half-naked fakirs.” A man certainly not interested in the freedom of the common man.

Baphomet

Indeed, great man indeed. Sometimes people need to be lashed into their place and into shape, do they not?

Animal

You love china because you are a sore loser in your own country, probably without a college degree or any redeeming features, yet china accepts you with open arms, you get a job, probably an english teacher or whatever, and even the local peasant women flock to you, thinking you have money or that you will take them out of the country.

Yup, nothing the chinese love more than a whitey who spends his time criticizing the country on the internet after 2 centuries of western abuse and imperialism.

I think the whites with a direct link to china, those with chinese wives and so, are really the worst trash. They are the ones who subconsciously reduce the country to a colony status where the subservient chinamen must bow down to the superior westerner.

A Crowley

Well let’s see now, I have a university degree, and consider myself a cunning linguist. I don’t have a chinese wife, sorry, don’t like the whole buy me a diamond encrusted iphone 5 just because your are my husband bs…gf’s alone are bad enough. I speak pu tong hua, and try and be friend of everyman, although not as naive nor trusting as before. So what then? Don’t lump all us whiteys into one pigeonhole, pal.

Robert Rou

Cool you have a college degree. So why the move to China?

Baphomet

Well, why not? Because I don’t like working mornings or weekends, unlike that fool who moved to australia. Who moves abroad to work HARDER, seems nonsensical to me. That guy in australia should learn from some of the expats on lamma island, work smarter, NOT HARDER! Quality of life comes first! End of story!!!

guest

“You love China because you are some loser in your own country.” They really should put that on their travel brochures. “Only losers love China.”

That’s two now that I completely agree with you.

I must be a winner, cuz I can’t stand that place.

biggj

Haha, That’s funny man.

maja

do you have access to a psychiatrist? you really need one.

Robert Rou

If China desires to legitimately enter the pantheon of world powers, it must learn to stand up for itself in a coherent fashion. Right now, China is content with being on the UN Security Council, but they realistically are the nerd with big fat glasses and refuses to defend himself, letting his reputation and name be smeared.

If we can learn anything from the Great Recession, it is this: “A good name is better than great wealth.”

Robert Rou

“Yup, nothing the chinese love more than a whitey who spends his time
criticizing the country on the internet after 2 centuries of western
abuse and imperialism.”

Part of the issue is that in order for people to be cognizant of events like Century of Humiliation, Opium Wars, or Unequal Treaties, they’d have to be taught these things in school. Unfortunately, this is not the case. And while everyone knows what Slavery is, I’d wager that > 90% of the world’s people have never heard of Opium Wars, etc. These basic events in Chinese, while well known to the Chinese, are rarely even mentioned in modern international conversations, so there is an cultural/informational gap that many people just do not know about.

guest

“I love China and I want to see it improve probably more than most Chinese care to see.”

you said it right there. I’m with animal. Leave. And I dont mean this as an attack on you. Get down to your visa center, find out what you need to get your family out of China, and do it. why anyone, including chinese, would want to live there is beyond me. Also explains why 90% of the chinese I see in Canada look happier than pigs in sh*t. (I’m guessing 10% are visitors that realize they have to go back.)

“If everytime somebody helps someone in this country they get sued, murdered or something… you can bet your ass I am welcome to leave and I bet you would want to leave too if you could”… yep, and I did.

biggj

Yep. What you say is true.But some people do have real jobs here and get forced to go there by their company. But anyone who is not forced by their job to go there is a fool for staying. If someone is hard up then by all means go to china and be all you can be. Trust me, normal people don’t go to china and live and like it. Visit china is fine. But someone who chooses to live there….something is not right.

Today

Haha if normal people cant live in china where can they live Congo? India? Mexico? Man i think you need to stop being a spoilt brat and actually realise that many countries are 10x worse.

biggj

Sure there are worse places. I’m talking people from Canada/America/Austrailia/France/ Germany countries like that. Someone from Somalia sure would love china. I’m not not down with eating poison food and breathing super polluted air. If you can get by in those countries then why would you choose to live in china? Would you live in china the rest of your life? Nothing to do with being spoiled. Just common sense. Nothing wrong with poor countries. Belize is a poor country with way less things than china. But I would live there any day…Even the rest of my life if I had to. Everyone is different. I never get head aches, but every time I’m in china I get one at least once a week.

All I’m saying is if you are well off or middle to low class. And you have to choose a country to live in for the rest of your life…..would china be anywhere on that list for most people? If there were not 1000’s of english jobs that require nothing but being white. Most people would not come here and live. Why is it that every chinese I talk to wants to leave china?

Today

Never been to Belize so I probably not too sure. I’m just trying to convey how each country has its own unique faults, I’ve lived in new zealand and i can tell you that id rather live in china and smell polluted air than be in new zealand and seeing more sheeps than people. Of course if ypu compare the environment, china’s gonna lose but there are so many other things to consider

donnachadh

Some sheep are rather personable, compared to some people.

http://500px.com/justinrjones whiskersthecat

Fuck that. I worked out in a remote area of Alaska for a summer and never wanted to leave. Gorgeous landscape, wildlife, so few people. So nice.

percymay

There will eventually be a war with China vs the US and Japan. Preparations are being made as you read this sentence.

It will not be nice for foreigners caught in China during a war.

aa

THEY deliberately spread those news to stop people help each other.

xiaode

that kind of shit-answer I also get all the time…
i could explain now why I hat this answer so much.. but it´s just a fucking waste of time….
just image… every foreigner who struggle with problems here would just have left the country… where would you county be…?

@ Enlightened One: same as me… 100% agree

Animal

If a chinese person criticizes the country, he has the right, because china is his country and china should reflect what the chinese people want. Not what some arrogant foreign trash want.

Foreigners often talk about how china is dirty, disgusting or a terrible place. Yes they can leave the country because china has nothing to do with them, they are parasites.

I believe western criticism of china is made for the vast majority of the time with ill intent.
Whites cannot bear the thought that a non western country will become the world superpower.

So the westerners come up with all sorts of excuses or insults or explanations why china will fail or how chinese society is irredeemably corrupted. When in fact, chinese development is following the huge successes of Japan and South Korea. Poor people are rude, dirty, badly mannered. This is not a chinese characteristic.

http://500px.com/justinrjones whiskersthecat

Man, you get your feelings hurt too easily.

mr.wiener

The butthurt is strong with this one.

guest

Finally, something we agree on! I survived China for three years, mostly because my company paid me ludicrous amounts of money to do so.

Now, back in Canada. Clean air, clean streets, clean water, smells of grass and trees and flowers and not toilets, plenty of polite and pleasant people, house with a nice yard (nothing special, but ten times better than the suite I had in China), no constant noise, no people urinating in the streets, no constant sounds of people clearing their throats, and best of all, news like this is a rarity.

What do I miss? Cheap dvds, cheap haircuts…………………. i’m gonna have to think that one out. I still visit ChinaSmack, though. Between daily stories like this and people with attitudes like yours (rather than address the problem, let’s blame everyone and everything else)…. it’s a wonderful reminder of how lucky I am to have what I have and not be stuck in that god forsaken hole.

Now, I’m going to walk down to the lovely little coffee shop overlooking the ocean, have a coffee before starting my day….. youre welcome to visit as long as you leave that mentality of yours in china.

YungBruce

Laughing my ass off at the role reversal.

biggj

This is like the chinese little red riding hood. Except no one rescues the girl.

lonetrey / Dan

The monstrous couple just ruined their unborn child’s life.
Is there no end to their stupidity?

Take the child away from these rapists and murderers,
and I pray they find a good family to replace them.

biggj

I thought the”don’t take things from strangers” things doesn’t really apply to adults. The world is going crazy.

lonetrey / Dan

I’m just paranoid, i guess, but I don’t usually take things from people I don’t know anyways. :/

biggj

Lonetrey hasn’t gotten his change back from cashiers in years. He just throws money on the counter and runs. Everyone is suspect. hahaha

Yeah I don’t trust anyone either, but I’m not afraid of anyone. I still do a lot of crazy shit. Like follow a group of strange Mexicans back to their hang out. Thankfully nothing has not wrong yet. Like I’ve never been lured into a rape or anything. haha

A Crowley

Tell the strange mexicans story, sounds interesting. I followed a strange omani guy once, when living in Oman, ended up being invited to eat a whole roasted goat and drink strong cardamom infused coffee and smoke shisha while sitting bow legged. Hospitality indeed:)

lonetrey / Dan

Ahahahaha I actually lol’d at that! I’m not THAT paranoid!

http://simplydesigned.tumblr.com/ maybeabanana

You mean also the orphaned kids that are trained to pick pocket or adults that scams tourists into a teahouse or art gallery? Except these didn’t involve psycho killers.

lonetrey / Dan

Well, helping orphans is something I’d still do anyways, and there’s usually nothing in my pockets to pick other than loose change. Heck, they can have that.

Teahouses and art gallery, not really considered “helping” strangers, you know? Being friendly with strangers =/= being helpgul to them.

maja

being honest is a different issue too.

biggj

The officials are on the scene….And they have a few words for these fuckers…..

YourSupremeCommander

Actually, they did say a few words: good grief, next time send the young girls my way!

slob

lol that is so bad it’s funny.

Mighty曹

Hahaha… dude is cowered down against the wall under the wrath of the official.

linette lee

You just love these two guys don’t cha? hahahah lol.

Repatriated

Because Chinese NEED their proof, even if it is a picture of an anus…

http://simplydesigned.tumblr.com/ maybeabanana

This reminds me of the preacher that fed his zombie sister human parts in 28 Days Later?? or any other zombie movie.

YourSupremeCommander

Admit it dudes, who does not want their wives to bring you home a young girl to have sex with?

Wololoo

Everyone, but having consentual sex (maybe with money paid), and not raping and killing her.

Also is 17yo kind of too young.

biggj

hahaha..That fucking pedobear

Eve Akota

Too Young actually sounds like a Korean name.

biggj

The way you typed that you sound like a 27 year old Japanese girl. Am I right?

Eve Akota

Nope ! You couldn’t be more wrong ! lol

Eve Akota

But I’m curious… What makes you think I’m a Japanese girl ?

Eve Akota

No, you’re not. In fact, you couldn’t be more wrong. lol

I’m curious : what made you believe that ?

linette lee

Hello Lee Too Young. How are you. hahha…lol

Germandude

Dude, you are so sick… It takes some insanity to become a genius.

curl of the burl

Mate, if you’ve got a problem with paedofiles, maybe it’s time you just grow up.

mr.wiener

Rammstein vs Cookie monster.

RonghuiLi

I haven’t heared it before .

The Enlightened One

In China a 17 year old is like… a 10-12 year old back home. It’s pretty pedo…

carlstar

but then the law is 14yo in China. They really love virgins to be extra young

biggj

In China the second you are born you are considered as being 1 year old. So that 14 is like a western 13. Last time I had sex with a 14 year old I was 11. hahaha

Uncle Tommy

I don’t. Because your wife will take that as a pass to bring a young buck home to plow her when you’re not there.

http://simplydesigned.tumblr.com/ maybeabanana

I’m not sure if this one sees it that way @-@.

elizabeth

This can only be fantasy. Won’t you question your wife’s intentions or whether she’s of sound mind if she did that?

YourSupremeCommander

That was exactly what I was trying to say!

elizabeth

Ah, phew!

YourSupremeCommander

This is what I would do if my wife bought me home a hot young girl to have sex with: I will have sex with the hot young girl till I cannot move any more. Then I will go hire a divorce lawyer the following morning, ASAP.

biggj

What if your wife joined in? I don’t do ecstasy often…but when my wifes sister comes over for the night we do. What wrong with a little fun?

It takes a certain woman. But I mean guys lie and cheat on their wife’s all the time and even when they are found out the wife will take them back usually. That is a lot worse then this. And this just a drug induced crazy fun time. No feeling or deception involved. Just devolve back to basic human instincts. This has only happened twice. And her sister and her are really close…like really close.

It is what it is…nothing more..nothing less. We understand that.

A Crowley

MDMA you mean?

biggj

Yeah the little blue ones with the dolphins on them. lol

A Crowley

Now nothing about them *dilated pupils and irrestistible urge to dance like a loon to anything with beats and hug anyone* officer, honest!

elizabeth

Dangerous. The hot thing may cry rape and your wife may sue for adultery, and then they would elope to Lalaland for their honeymoon.

http://simplydesigned.tumblr.com/ maybeabanana

As some Chinese say “Dieuuuuuu.”

YourSupremeCommander

lay loe mei?

Mighty曹

I don’t think she just decided to do her hubby a favor. I’m sure it was her a-hole husband who’s been badgering her for days to satisfy him with anyone but her.

Alex Brendel

It was rape! Then murder! Who wants that?

Mighty曹

The dilemma is, “Do we now teach our kids not to trust even pregnant or old ladies who ask them for assistance?” to protect them from possible harm or do we continue to groom them to grow up as a person with good moral responsibility?

http://simplydesigned.tumblr.com/ maybeabanana

With good morals, responsibilty, common sense and a healthy brain, they as individuals would be less likely to fall for such acts. To me, the victims seem to be of goat /sheep brain….nothing in there rattles..

Mighty曹

True but having a kind heart often leads to doing good deeds without suspecting any ulterior motives. Unlike scam victims who fall prey because they were damn greedy to make money. They deserve to be scammed.

http://simplydesigned.tumblr.com/ maybeabanana

That’s blinded humanitarian. My uncle asked me when I was 12yo, Would you rather be an evil rider or a poor dumb horse? I now realize his views and he’s a shitbag.

Mighty曹

LOL! But the wisdom was in guiding you to choose the right choice. So which did you choose?

http://simplydesigned.tumblr.com/ maybeabanana

I didn’t take his wisdom since I believe theres a probable middle ground and not the only option. However the young me answered the good stupid horse( sorry I left the good horse out as was the intent of the question). He gauged my naiveness and now I know.

Mighty曹

I wish my uncles were more like yours.

http://simplydesigned.tumblr.com/ maybeabanana

Not if you knew the constant comparisons your are put through against his ivy league child. Not if you see his blatant narcissism, advantage taking and stepping over family members.

elizabeth

The kids that they can help without trusting too much.

They could call the ambulance, get and pay for them a cab, get friends/ relatives to go along if they are nearby, ask for their addresses/IDs and relay the information to someone by phone/Twitter before going with them, wait in a busy public area with them until their families to pick them up…or the kids could get them to speak to their parents to ask for permission…they wouldn’t mind the distrust if it’s a genuine emergency.

Or…call the police…

Mighty曹

You can do all that with pre-planning but when you come across someone who asks for help under this scenario how likely is it that you’ll do any of the suggestions listed above? These usually happen on a whim.

elizabeth

It’s not pre-planning but rather like having a reservoir of options to choose from to suit the situation.

For example, in this case, the girl could have called the ambulance if it appeared serious or gotten a cab for the pregnant woman to go home on her own if it wasn’t that bad. She could also have asked for her address or ID casually, so that she could get send her home or help the police/doctors to identify her just in case the woman fainted. If the ‘pain’ wasn’t severe, she could waited with her for her husband to bring her home instead.

If she refused to cooperate on all of the above, then she is highly suspect or unreasonable. Like maybeabanana said, it’s actually common sense but kids may not be experienced enough to judge, so we have to teach them.

Mighty曹

You need to experience the outside world more.
1) The woman’s home was at a distance that did not require a cab ride.
2) The building is within sight so why would she ask for her address?
3) And ‘help’ doesn’t necessarily require medical professionals like an ambulance.

The girl is 17 and smart enough to make the following judgement:

“Oh, her home is just right there (within 20, 50, 100 feet) I guess I can help her walk over…”

Point is, she probably surveyed the situation and location and knows it won’t take much time to help the woman and decided to do so.

linette lee

In this situation I think majority of people would have done the same thing helping the pregnant woman. It’s just so evil they killed her.

The Enlightened One

Yes, I agree.

I would have helped her, I am sure of it. They did not only take the life of an innocent, kind-hearted girl… (as if that weren’t enough)… they also caused a huge amount of damage to an already weary and tired society.

People like this shouldn’t even be allowed to bear children. Their human rights should be revoked.

Claude

licenses! In my country we need certification to become a freaking yoga instructor or personal trainer. it included first aid etc… In Japan an aerobics instructor needs to apply for a license. I heard that from a Japanese aerobics instructor.

In my country you can’t handle food without a Food Safe certificate. Cars, motorcycles anything that can potentially harm another person, you need a license.

So why is it any freaking inbred can poop out a brat? They should be required to have a certificate that includes a mental health exam to see if they are indeed qualified to have children.

biggj

Then who will be in the front lines when war breaks out. lol

maja

You’re probably right. The mistake in this case was most probably enter the home and drink what she was offered. Actually, the whole scene was meant to have her drink the sleeping milk in the couples home where no one would see or say anything.
Still, I guess if a pregnant woman in distress would ask for my help I would call an ambulance…

elizabeth

That is why, it depends on the situation.

If the woman’s home is nearby, and she could walk, I would not follow her home, but call someone from her home to take her back.

If she couldn’t walk, then it should have been an emergency already and she should be taken to a hospital.

If she refuses, I’d be suspicious and would ask for some identification to relay to someone who could lookout for me.

If she refuses, I will not help. If I were genuinely in need of help, I would do anything to assure the helper.

If her home is just 20 feet away, she should be able to walk back there on her own. Unless again, she is very sick, then she should go to the hospital or clinic.

If she insists that I enter her home when she could obviously take care of herself, then she is unreasonable. If she is very sick and needed someone, I would have called for helper to come to the house.

You need to fine-tune your thinking more to address the nuances in a situation. I have encountered enough cases to know what I am talking about.

Mighty曹

I’m curious. Have you ever been pregnant?

elizabeth

That is not relevant young man. Besides, I’d love to torture you by keeping you curious.

Mighty曹

You failed to even realize that it was a rhetorical question. As I’ve said, you need to experience the real outside world more and not just voice your knowledge learned through reading.

As for being tortured? Sorry, I don’t have the slightest curiosity for boredom.

Mighty曹

Before the deflections come I must say similar things happen quite often here in the States where a wife or girlfriend helps a scum bag in abduction and rape of young girls and women. All in the name of ‘love’. They should both die.

biggj

Next time the Jehovah’s witness come to my house to spread the good word or whatever. I’m just going to tell them about this story and how it’s not save for them to come in. hahaha

I have a pretty good story about this. A few weeks they came to my house. They usually come like once every few months. So anyway a girl and guy came and I let them in, I’m very hospitable guy, even if I don’t want them there…i will amuse them I guess. I was just smoking a joint reading news on my computer anyway in the kitchen. So we sit down I get them something to drink and some blueberry muffins my wife made.So we get to talking and I could tell they felt uncomfortable…I asked them ” Do you mind so this joint?” The guy said ” Well do you think you should?” So I said “Yeah, I will do what I want, it’s my house. And I smiled and said ” Do you want a tug off this joint? And they refused of course. Then I asked them ” Why do you go around all the time trying to convert people…what do you get out of it?” They said ” Well it’s our duty to do so” or something like that. Then they said some more shit and then the girl said” The more people we can get to become Jehovah’s witness the closer we get heaven” Then I said” So is there a quota you need to get or what?” The girls said well only 130,000 people get to go to heaven”.or some number like that. Then I said” Are you serious? Then how do you know the spots are not already filled….that’s not really a lot of people” Then the guy said” Nope they are not filled yet” Then I said” Well how do you know” then i laughed a bit. The girl said ” The elders will be told when it’s filled”………..I kind of drew a blank for a few seconds…..Then I said” Well what’s heaven like?”They said” Well there is no real heaven or hell”……….So I said” Then what happens” And apparently the world will end one day and all the people not on that “List” will just die….just cease to exist. And the earth we live on now will be heaven. Like the 130,000 people can live where they want and do what they want and Jehovah will come back to earth and live with these people……So I told them ” I know i’m a bit high….but this sounds ridiculous.” Then we just talked a bit about just regular things and then before they left they gave some of the new ” Watch tower” books. Pretty crazy morning.hahahah

Anyway…Like real super nice people…but just crazy as shit. I give them props for trying…but…I know bullshit when I hear it. Thats just pure blind faith. Anyhow, no point to the story. Just kind of amused me a bit.

YourSupremeCommander

I just put on a serious face and tell them straight up that they are interrupting my poker game with the Devil.

biggj

Next time they come I’ll give them this look……..and say absolutely nothing. hahah

saltynuts

i have some extra non-drugged yogurt if anyone wants some.

Mihel

So not even pregnant women are above murder and rape. FFS.

Kai

They weren’t above using their pregnancy to steal bicycles and mopeds without reprecussion either. It just depends on the person. It’s probably our mistake for thinking too highly of a person just because they’re pregnant.

Chinkicide

“A pair of sickos, their child will be a sicko too, might as well just kill it immediately, destroy root and branch, with no descendents to remain.”

Now we are talking!
d-(^^)z

Andre Leonard

No honor in these two families, only shame and disgrace. Both morally bankrupt.

Jen_in_NY

It’s really hard to imagine not helping a pregnant woman, though. Last year, I was in a mall parking lot and a pregnant woman came up to me. She had her phone to her ear and said she was talking to her mother. She said her car broke down and she needed money to call a cab, otherwise her mother would have to drive 2 hours to get her (or something like that). She looked distraught. What can I say? I believed her and gave her some money. Then I overheard someone at work telling another person that this was a common scam being run at that mall at the time. I felt like an idiot, but what could I do?

That said, I don’t *think* I would every go to a second location with a stranger. I had a guy come up to me in a park and try to lure me away, saying, “I’m so glad you’re here–I need your help!” and I was like, “F*** off” and ran for the nearest people. That was obviously scary. But if it had been a pregnant woman? I just don’t know what I would have done.

elizabeth

She could have paid for the cab when she arrived home or borrowed the money from you with her broken down car as security. Two hours of cab fare must have been a lot of money. A decent person who can afford a car would have at least offered to return the money.

Jen_in_NY

Yeah, I think the point is that I didn’t think any of it logically through. Had I taken the time to think it through, I would have seen the gaps in her story. My knee-jerk reaction was just to help.

The Enlightened One

Yeah, as it should be (your reaction). Filth like this are really hurting the fabric of society. Everyone is going to be in that “boy-who-cried-wolf” state of mind when they run into someone who needs help.

Taking advantage of a kind-hearted and warm person like that… some people should have their rights removed as a human… as they are clearly not.

elizabeth

You are too kind.

maja

I’m not sure I understand, what do you mean by a decent person who can afford a car?

elizabeth

A decent person does not take advantage of others. A person who can afford a car does not need charity, so she should have at least offered to return the money in some way since the person helping might need the money. When someone is kind to us, we have to be kind to them too by being considerate.

In any case, apart from some categories of beggars or clear-cut emergency cases, whenever a stranger approaches me for cash (food is fine), I will be suspicious but open by asking questions to understand their situation better.

In this case, malls should have ATMs and the woman’s mother should be responsible to take her daughter home unless she is physically unable to.

I used to be very gullible helping anyone who approached me, but I figured the resources wasted on conmen could have been better used to help someone more deserving, even if I could afford to give away money. Otherwise, it would only encourage more people to cheat.

maja

I remember offering a meal to a man a couple months back, most probably a con-man because there were many in my neighbourhood at that time. He offered to give me back the money later but I was fine with it, he looked embarassed but I had other things going on and said goodbye.
I know I don’t own a car, I guess that man doesn’t own a car either. On the other hand many decent persons are helping making the city where I live a greenhouse hell by buying homes far away from their working places and… cars (huge SUV’s cars, which are the worst polluters).

Mighty曹

It’s a shame they’re using babies and children too. There’s one woman who carries a baby and tow a little daughter and asks people for money to help feed the kids. I’ve seen her many times in downtown pulling the same stunt. I definitely heard her pleading. One day I walked by and she turns to me. Right away I said, “You should be seeking social services for your kids”. Right away she became mute and just shrugged her shoulders with a bewildered look.

There was another time at a casino in Vegas this older Chinese man came up to me and asked if I spoke Chinese. I said ‘yes’ and he looked “relieved” and started telling me he lost his wallet and he had to get to the airport in an hour to catch a flight back home to Hong Kong. He then asked if I can ‘loan’ him some money and he’ll pay me back when he gets home.

I said, “Oh okay. Follow me”. I lead the way and walked to the security desk. As soon as he realized I was going straight up to the security he turned around and walked away. I proceeded to alert the security guards about the man going around scamming people. Unfortunately their response was, “Oh, he’s back again?”.

It’s frustrating that they were so casual about it. My concern was if he pulled that shit on some elderly folks, like my Mom, he’s sure to hit a jackpot.

lonetrey / Dan

I honestly don’t think you did anything wrong.

Karze

Either she is dumb or miser. She could have hired and brought sex worker to her husband.

Chinese

They are tards and sickos. You just can’t comprehend them.

death_by_ivory

I dont understand.Why cant you have sex when you pregnant?

linette lee

I don’t understand why they can’t hire sex service. I am sure in China you can hire people to do almost anything with any price. China is so big. So it’s easier to kill than to hire a worker?

death_by_ivory

Because they were nut cases.The “were” was hopeful and intentional.

Chinese

Well, what the article didn’t say is that the pregnant woman was abused by the husband for having relationships with other men before him. And the woman came up with the idea to bring a virgin girl to her husband to equalize.

Retardation at its finest

jeb

enjoy life, china. you’re everything the world expected and more!!

linette lee

Why not just hire a girl who will provide for service. Some girls are willing if the price is right. Why go through so much trouble. A very strange story indeed.

Alexander

The moral is, there are too many crazy people in the world, so we should be like Xinjiang ren carry around knives and if anyone tries to hurt us, we just pull out the knife and people run away in fear, hey, it seems to work for the Xinjiang people….

A Crowley

I was under the impression they had a legal right to those knives being a minority?

B A T M A N

RIP Angel

biggj

Where the fuck were you Batman? You son of a bitch. Stop fucking around in the batcave and stop crime.

The Enlightened One

“The Sina Weibo hashtag topic page for this news story currently features a poll asking users: Will you still maintain your kindheartedness [willingness to help others]?. The two options are “I will, holding fast to my conscience is precisely to prevent evil from running amok” and “I won’t, I will only protect myself and my family“. At time of translation, there were nearly 30,000 votes, with nearly 3 out of 4 voters voting for the latter option.”

Wow this is a serious problem. 3 out of 4 people said they wouldn’t help a stranger and show no kindness. If 3 out of 4 people would not help and admit it, then it is highly possible the person that did vote that they would help… would also not help due to the “crowd effect”. Also the people who say they would help, may suddenly remember these incidents and fear helping when they see nobody else is making an effort to do so…

Poor China, what have you sold to build up your economy?

biggj

Yep, I hear ya.But it’s also like the saying “One bad apple ruins the bunch”. That the thinking of a lot of people. Like “tourist get killed in China” …well china must not be a safe place to go. Like these chinese read shit like this all the time on the internet like” Y sued X over trying to help him. Or pregnant woman helps kill husbands sex toy or whatever…and now all pregnant woman are suspect. The media makes people think like that. There has always been crazy shit going on in the world and there always will be….Just now we all the bad news we want to read about at the touch of a button. And the majority of people will start to get paranoid about their own shadow soon enough.You just can’t listen to it. Just live your life how you want. And don’t let some bad news scare you into doing something you want to do. That’s just how I do it. If I listened to everything I read on the internet or seen on the news…..I would live in bunker underground and never leave or have contact with anyone.

The Enlightened One

Yeah, I would still help… I don’t care. I am not selling my soul to the media. But it would be nice to know people WOULD help my wife or Chinese family members if they needed help and I wasn’t around.

today

totally agree! If it can get on the news, it means its a rarity. People should always be a little more optimistic. I truly hope more people think like you. That’s why sometimes I really hate the media, just feeding people nothing but hatred and anger, two of the easiest emotions to stir up on the internet.

today

I think (and truly hope) that this is just because they only just heard the story, their emotions got the better of them. That being said, I can imagine that many would not help, but the good thing is, many would! Like you :). I guess i have to get my karate up to date so that I can protect myself if these situations ever happen.

donnachadh

1. The poll questions presume people would have helped before hearing this story.

2. Chinese people’s reluctance to help others is not a result of economic liberalisation, if anything it is largely the result of communism, and especially the cultural revolution.

shoot

send them to the shooting squad.

PixelPulse

I feel bad for the baby to have such disgusting parents.

Rich

What this also gets me to think about is how many times this has happened, with the wife aiding or not, and they got away with it. Maybe the girl was drugged and then put somewhere unconscious. Maybe even some also got murdered and buried, but no one came looking for them. Scary.

Uncle Tommy

Those who try to be good all the time will end up in ruin.

Mighty曹

Damn Bigg, you got some bigg balls to go to that ‘apartment’. You must’ve been stoned/drunk before you followed them. Most gringos would’ve awaken with a kidney missing. Consider yourself one lucky bastard.

biggj

No, I wasn’t drunk or anything. I’m just hardcore. Mexican’s are like dogs…they can smell fear haha. People don’t fuck with people who are on their level or above them. People prey on people weaker than them. I deal with crazier people than those guy on a regular basis. My only concern was 4 of them. I was not picking up any bad vibes from them. Turns out they where pretty funny guys. Had a good time.

Mighty曹

Let’s see…. Bigg, Canadian, crazy. Ok, I picture you as a burly ex-hockey player with a couple of missing teeth.

Repatriated

WTF? It’s not like there isn’t a “pink light place” on every street in China. Why didn’t the guy just go get a happy ending massage??

Caleb

This could be the next movie, number one blockbuster movie in USA, i am sending this story to Hollywood. THE GIRL WHO CONS to kill.

Kenshin

Lol at all the English teacher whoremongers in China. Once those 40 million single chinese men organize and form gangs, you fuckers who settle down there are gonna be in deep shit.

biggj

Then when they run them all out, who will they blame then for them still being a virgin?

Kenshin

who cares. just saying the whites are gonna be in deep shit. look at what happened to japanese people during protests.

Chinese people are savage

biggj

I guess so. But the hate for you japs is 10x the hate for white people. They still hate white people..but not on riot levels yet. I’m sure we will give them a reason soon enough to hate us more.

Kenshin

I saw a white American guy get the shit beat out of him in Tianjin when I was there earlier this year.

Most Chinese people liked me since I played off being American rather than Japanese

biggj

I sure the guy had it coming though. I don’t think they would just attack someone for being white. I never had any problems and I go every year. Even to the chinese hillbilly country side. Not once have I even has an argument with a chinese person. All are nice to me. But they do tell me how much they hate the japs though. Not one I have ever talked to has had a good word to say about japs. You should know by now chinese don’t really like anyone who is not chinese…and even then some chinese they don’t like.

Kenshin

well China is a big country after all. I think attitudes change from region to region. Most northeastern chinese are pretty friendly to me but central/southern chinese tend to be less friendly.

biggj

I think your best bet in china is just to blend in. And try not to speak to blow your cover. lol

donnachadh

They’re going to organise and form gangs? But they can’t get girlfriends?

http://www.chinasmack.com/ MrT

They just caught for the one murder did they?

http://aileilei.tumblr.com/ El Puma R.

Doing time in jail when you’re pregnant is bad for your health.

abalun

this country is farked beyond hope

RagnarDanneskjold

It’s true, Chinese have a superstition about having sex during pregnancy, like it will harm the baby or induce labor or something. I don’t know how widespread it is, but I have known people who believe it. And it’s not just intercourse. A friend of mine said she believes this and her husband was going crazy. I asked her why she didn’t give him a hand or blow job and she said that makes her excited, so it could harm the baby.

i seastars 卫莱

i can fap to this

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/ Assassinister

Oh now thats a true martyr wife.

kitosai819

ah d real story is that, the woman cheated on her husband,got pregnant and the husband wants sex,so she decided to find him a girl to make it even, such disgusting pair!!!

Mind Warp

In the west, you’re told to have sex as often as possible during pregnancy.