went with pozner, he is aggressive to debate brown,can you imagine haVING THE OLD BALD GAY JESUIT PRIEST BECOME GOV, AGAIN? NO GUN RIGHTS NO DEATH PENALTY, MASS GAY WEDDINGS WITH JERRY PRECIDING! scary!

Meg Whitman claims she knows how to create jobs - cause she did so at EBay. What that really means is that she knows how to join a growing company and not completely run it into the ground. Um, how much she pay for Skype and how much did EBay investors lose on that deal? Should we vote for her just because she has a lot of money?

[QUOTE .I guess we would have turn to wholesome man/woman family values like Jon and Kate Plus 8 getting divorced live on tv. I want my kids watching that. lol[/QUOTE]

Dont get me started on those 2 clowns. The only talent she has is that she can pop out 8 kids and him, the only talent he has is that he found someone ignorant enoughto have his kids. What's said is that there are people in this world that think that qualifies them to be celebrities.

CA is doomed, it is ungovernable. The only thing that can save it is an AZ-style immigration law or Prop 187.

Too many leftist spendocrats for CA to ever be a successful state again. They have NO plan for what to do when all of the people and companies who pay most of the PI taxes in this state get fed up and leave.(As they are doing right now)

You couldn't raise prop tax and assorted fees enough to compensate for this flight, even if you quintupled all of them. Even if you were to just double the property tax rate it would drive 95% of homeowners into bankruptcy and the state would completely collapse.

CA is doomed, it is ungovernable.The only thing that can save it is an AZ-style immigration law or Prop 187.Too many leftist spendocrats for CA to ever be a successful state again. They have NO plan for what to do when all of the people and companies who pay most of the PI taxes in this state get fed up and leave.(As they are doing right now)You couldn't raise prop tax and assorted fees enough to compensate for this flight, even if you quintupled all of them. Even if you were to just double the property tax rate it would drive 95% of homeowners into bankruptcy and the state would completely collapse.

I agree that under current conditions, the state is doomed, but history tells us that things can and do change, sometimes remarkably fast.

Something will inevitably happen that will start to tilt the scales in the other direction. It's impossible to say what that event will be, but as I said, history tells us that it will eventually happen

CA is doomed, it is ungovernable.The only thing that can save it is an AZ-style immigration law or Prop 187.Too many leftist spendocrats for CA to ever be a successful state again. They have NO plan for what to do when all of the people and companies who pay most of the PI taxes in this state get fed up and leave.(As they are doing right now)You couldn't raise prop tax and assorted fees enough to compensate for this flight, even if you quintupled all of them. Even if you were to just double the property tax rate it would drive 95% of homeowners into bankruptcy and the state would completely collapse.

Gotta go with illegal enforcement, may not be, but should be a one issue election at all levels.

yep you got a lotttttttttt of people living off the state--they just take--don't try anything to turn their lives around--you people that pay taxes and have jobs better start getting together fore you lose it all

<quoted text>I agree that under current conditions, the state is doomed, but history tells us that things can and do change, sometimes remarkably fast.Something will inevitably happen that will start to tilt the scales in the other direction. It's impossible to say what that event will be, but as I said, history tells us that it will eventually happen

I think you're being foolishly optimistic to make such assumptions that simply because the state is here today means it will be here in the future. That IS what you're saying, isn't it?

However, all things also come to an end. The state has never been in this situation before, with so many people, with the systems it it has, etc. Growth cannot be sustained forever. And all living things require sustenance. Thus we know that scarcity (of all consumables) is not some Dr Doom pessimism or paranoia; it is a mathematical certainty.

CA has reached what you might call a tipping point (if you haven't ever read the book, The Tipping Point, you might check it out). It explains basically (i am oversimplifying this immensely) why crises such as these can "suddenly" strike, because people are complacent until the signs are obvious and inescapable, but by then it is too late (past the tipping point).

yep you got a lotttttttttt of people living off the state--they just take--don't try anything to turn their lives around--you people that pay taxes and have jobs better start getting together fore you lose it all

I'm planning to move out of CA soon. Not sure where, but nearly all Western states are in better shape and have a better 10 year outlook than CA.

Nobody running can save California.Meg's lack of experience running something like California would be reflected by our current President and his mess.Too many propositions with mandatory funding, and too many politicians giving away taxpayer money so they can stay in power

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