You contradicted yourself by saying you don't go around saying that pvp sucks, but that also means you don't go around saying that what others enjoy or think is wrong. Now in this case I have disagreed with you, much in the same way that people who like pvp would be disagreeing with you, and have stated that you disagree with me even though you said you don't go around saying those things and you did to me because I have disagreed with you. There is the contradiction.

See I didn't say it was wrong that you enjoyed it, but you you seemed inclined that I had. I had only gave the opinion that it isn't very exciting, I did not say it would be wrong to implement. I think you don't like people disagreeing with you, but that is alright because I assume you are 50 feet tall and Hawaiian, not that it is a bad thing, but I am just going to assume random things now.

You must be at charities helping all the time you helpful nice person.

Blizzard's WoW team appear to be staffed solely by raiders, who then proceeds to hire more raiders, hence seem to suffer from severe tunnel vision when it comes to determining what is "interesting".

No worries. Free to play has opened up the doors to competition. They will get the message sooner or later. Blizzard-can-do-no-wrong fanboys and player housing haters be damned.

Yawn.

Notice how I didn't emote yawn, but actually just put yawn, because "fanboys" are not bad, not all "fanboys" agree with Blizzard all of the time, and "fanboys" don't also hate player housing because that argument makes about zero sense, like a squirrel spliced with a great white shark.

You do know, they are researching into making it go the right way, right?

The farm at Halfhill was also counted as a "testtube" to see if they could make it work, they even added ideas on how to improve it - but still, it's a test for further progress. I think it's because Blizzard don't want just a random door/portal to somewhere else, maybe.

If I were to grant a bit of ideas, then I would gladly have the following:
Upgradeable features via points from a new activity system (Yes, work for your stuff, basicly)
- Upgrade housing to be fitted with, a forge/Workshop (BS/Engi/Mining - area)
- Upgrade housing to be fitted with, a Kitchen (Cooking of course)
- Upgrade housing to be fitted with, a library (Enchanting/Inscription idea)
- Upgrade housing to be fitted with, a green house (Herbalism basicly, PLANTS - Maybe with an extended so that you can use the functions from the farm?)
- Upgrade housing to be fitted with, a brewery (Alchemy / Cooking)
- Upgrade housing to be fitted with, a common room (You know, greet your friends, sit around and talk and such)
- Upgrade housing to be fitted with, a trophy hall (A small token for every raid you have been in when it was current)
- Upgrade housing to be fitted with, a armory (A room with statues that you may place your own armor on, when you click them, they'll auto-swap the armor between you and the statue+ though you have to buy statues from points, starting with 1/2 for free, rest is up to you (Could solve some bank problems too in the end))
- Upgrade housing to be fitted with, a study (Inscription/mail)

(The upgrades I listed could all be used in connection with professions - Sorry, didn't write fishtank.. would sorta be.. meh... Unless you really want a Naga babe in your home, add a fishtank)

The idea that I would see, to avoid everything being bought with gold, would be a new point system. Basicly a rewarding system via activity within the game, be it quests, PvP or raiding - points could go better to gain. Of course I have to admit that it shouldn't be easy to gain everything. There could be added some micro-transactions for useless things such as a picture, rug or something - though functional upgrades/additions should be completely earned within the game. (This is also why I didn't mind helmets on the store - they're useless).

Of course we all have our meaning of a good home, and I think that is where an amount of racial choices could be added too, i.e. location/design. A dwarven little home, a gnomes tinker lab or the noble elven ivory white buildings. A human's farm house or even a troll hut could be used. Player housing adds not only possibilities but also problems in a short type of way. I would most likely be the one to say that you either have a complete neutral looking house (fitting both sides) or you have 2 houses. 1 house with a Horde design for Horde, and the same with Alliance design for Alliance. A third option would be a selection of houses, though would be too demanding for a player to have. Best option is a choice of 1 neutral home, or 2 homes with each of their features (Upgrades should be a 1 time buy, account wide and convert into the fitting theme of the home you have).

Additional things can then be added via the point system, gold/reputation combination or money. Take heed before you rage, the things I am thinking about it decorational/"useless" items - no functions of any need but to make it look okay/good/grand/zomgwhatisthisplace.

Additional things that could be added would be:
- Statues
- figurines
- Paintings/maps
- different furniture
- carpets/drapes and rugs
- A heartstone board/ Any playing boards fitting the theme

And a little more extreme:
- A servant (Small vendor to sell your trash at, and buy the basic general store stuff)
- A pet (Yes, I want a god damn dog)

The housing would also contain 2 options, selected by Blizzard or the Player, I do not care. 1: Gain rested within the house, though no HS connected to it. 2: Have a HS connected to the house, though no rested XP.

Stuff can be fixed, just get enough glue or duct tape!Just because there isn't a cookie you like doesn't mean there is no cookies (Content discussion)

Notice how I didn't emote yawn, but actually just put yawn, because "fanboys" are not bad, not all "fanboys" agree with Blizzard all of the time, and "fanboys" don't also hate player housing because that argument makes about zero sense, like a squirrel spliced with a great white shark.

Did I say ALL fanboys agree with Blizzard ALL the time? I even specified the specific type of fanboy, "Blizzard-can-do-no-wrong", in the post.

Also notice I use the word "and" thereby denoting that "Blizzard-can-do-no-wrong fanboys" and "player housing haters" are separate entities.

Also player housing may be tied to professions and revive them. But of course if Blizzard will be to lazy to tie some interesting content to it, exept daily gring and pushing vanity items to $$$ shop, then yeah - it's not worth it.

There is only _ONE_ game that did player housing justice and its one of the oldest MMOs ever.

Ultimate online. The way you had a house planted down and could then customise it was immense. If wow were to do the same then I think the best way to do it would be have X amount of clear space in some selected zones have them set to a high price on an auction and is purchasable by guilds only. You could some options to change its looks (a few flags here and there maybe a racial option like a belf tower a tauren tent orc stronghold goblin explosives etc you can have a repair vendor inside and a hearth stone/in keeper and I would say a portal to a selected capital (you choose which one from your faction to have it set to) You can also set the guild house to be PVP enabled or disabled. this means if its enabled enemy players who enter are flagged for PVP and your "main" flag can be captured for a fair amount of honour points. It can be captured once every 12hours.

Guild housing could be cool, it wouldn't even have to be instanced necessarily.
Put a guild hall in every town (outside of main cities) and a relatively hefty price on using the space, enough so tiny guilds probably wouldn't have the resources to keep one active.
As long as all halls had portals to main cities the fact that some would be out in remote parts of the world wouldn't matter.

It'd be pretty cool while levelling to visit the guild hall in each place and see who owned it and what they had done with it.

You could also add a pvp aspect to it where other guilds could challenge you for the space.
They would apply to fight putting down a months rent plus a fee and then at the end of the month there would be a battle.
The defender would get to set the battle rules (5 v 5, 20 v 20 etc), and whoever wins gets that hall for the following month.
If no one is challenged they just have to pay monthly rent to hold onto the space.

Did I say ALL fanboys agree with Blizzard ALL the time? I even specified the specific type of fanboy, "Blizzard-can-do-no-wrong", in the post.

Also notice I use the word "and" thereby denoting that "Blizzard-can-do-no-wrong fanboys" and "player housing haters" are separate entities.

Good job reading something that isn't there.

By saying "Blizzard-can-do-no-wrong" then putting "fanboys" right after you have linked both and therefore have said the fanboy agrees with them no matter what. Maybe you should try rereading your own post again because that is exactly what you said, but just in case I shall quote your last post and bold the part that you said I wasn't reading.

Originally Posted by SodiumChloride

Blizzard's WoW team appear to be staffed solely by raiders, who then proceeds to hire more raiders, hence seem to suffer from severe tunnel vision when it comes to determining what is "interesting".

No worries. Free to play has opened up the doors to competition. They will get the message sooner or later. Blizzard-can-do-no-wrong fanboys and player housing haters be damned.

Hey, look at that. That sort of means that you are saying the fanboys always think Blizz is right and therefore agree with them no matter what.

You may have a point and yes, I did go far by insinuating that you said that fanboys hate player housing, but your current gripe about me making stuff up is only 33% wrong.

By saying "Blizzard-can-do-no-wrong" then putting "fanboys" right after you have linked both and therefore have said the fanboy agrees with them no matter what. Maybe you should try rereading your own post again because that is exactly what you said, but just in case I shall quote your last post and bold the part that you said I wasn't reading.

Hey, look at that. That sort of means that you are saying the fanboys always think Blizz is right and therefore agree with them no matter what.

You may have a point and yes, I did go far by insinuating that you said that fanboys hate player housing, but your current gripe about me making stuff up is only 33% wrong.