Nightowl wrote:Going to Crawford, TX and Camp David should not be compared to going to Hawaii and Martha's Vineyard.....

You're right, because we paid millions to upgrade the ranch in Crawford so W could live there and clear brush and play at being a rancher instead of running the country, when Hawaii and Martha's Vineyard were just vacations.

The Africa trip by Obama is just bad timing, with the White House closed because of budget cuts, and all the other budget cuts for him to spend 100 million on a family vacation is pretty stupid...It seems like a waste of money to me.

It's not a vacation, it's like any other Presidential foreign tour. It's just to the neglected continent of Africa, and not to Europe or Asia this time.

I think another thing is all the trips he makes for stupid reasons, like going to FL to play golf with Tiger Woods, He and His wife have also taken seperate planes a few hours apart, its the waste of money that I think is making people mad.

W and his wife did the same things.

Still cheaper than renting the house in Martha's vinayard, or renting all the places in Hawaii. Crawford, TX and Camp David are paid for and cost nothing extra except the travel there.

Nightowl wrote:Still cheaper than renting the house in Martha's vinayard, or renting all the places in Hawaii. Crawford, TX and Camp David are paid for and cost nothing extra except the travel there.

But to be honest, this is a stupid thing to even be talking about.

To be honest, that was a low information post because what's stupid is the claim that a presidential family vacation to Martha's Vineyard or anywhere else is more expensive than to Crawford (77 times!) or Camp David because they cost nothing except the travel:

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics ... lic/63691/But here's how presidential vacations work: presidents pay for their vacations, taxpayers pay for security like Secret Service protection, just as they do if the President stays home at the White House. In 2009, the Obama family vacationed in Martha's Vineyard and rented a home that cost $35,000 a week which, according to NBC News, they paid for. This is the way it goes for President Obama, has gone for past presidents, and will go for every American president....As Doug Wead, a presidential historian and one-time assistant to George W. Bush, wrote for the conservative-leaning Newsmax in 2009:...The Bush twins visited Europe during their father’s presidency, as did children of the Carters, Fords, Nixons, and Eisenhowers. I actually traveled with Neil Bush to Europe during his father’s presidency. And he was all over Asia. The Kennedy kids visited Europe with their mother during JFK’s presidency.See, it's a perk—a perk that you get when your dad or mom becomes president. And if you look at the Bush twins' trip to Argentina in 2006, they stayed despite reports that the embassy suggested they leave early—ABC had reported the Embassy asked them to cut their vacation short, the embassy later denied the report. Either way, we had to pay for the Secret Service protection then too and will do for Obama's daughters, and any children of our future presidents.

Nightowl wrote:Still cheaper than renting the house in Martha's vinayard, or renting all the places in Hawaii. Crawford, TX and Camp David are paid for and cost nothing extra except the travel there.

But to be honest, this is a stupid thing to even be talking about.

To be honest, that was a low information post because what's stupid is the claim that a presidential family vacation to Martha's Vineyard or anywhere else is more expensive than to Crawford (77 times!) or Camp David because they cost nothing except the travel:

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics ... lic/63691/But here's how presidential vacations work: presidents pay for their vacations, taxpayers pay for security like Secret Service protection, just as they do if the President stays home at the White House. In 2009, the Obama family vacationed in Martha's Vineyard and rented a home that cost $35,000 a week which, according to NBC News, they paid for. This is the way it goes for President Obama, has gone for past presidents, and will go for every American president....As Doug Wead, a presidential historian and one-time assistant to George W. Bush, wrote for the conservative-leaning Newsmax in 2009:...The Bush twins visited Europe during their father’s presidency, as did children of the Carters, Fords, Nixons, and Eisenhowers. I actually traveled with Neil Bush to Europe during his father’s presidency. And he was all over Asia. The Kennedy kids visited Europe with their mother during JFK’s presidency.See, it's a perk—a perk that you get when your dad or mom becomes president. And if you look at the Bush twins' trip to Argentina in 2006, they stayed despite reports that the embassy suggested they leave early—ABC had reported the Embassy asked them to cut their vacation short, the embassy later denied the report. Either way, we had to pay for the Secret Service protection then too and will do for Obama's daughters, and any children of our future presidents.

Exactly. This is nothing more than more Right Wing False Conspiracy Propaganda.

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Nightowl wrote:Going to Crawford, TX and Camp David should not be compared to going to Hawaii and Martha's Vineyard.....

You're right, because we paid millions to upgrade the ranch in Crawford so W could live there and clear brush and play at being a rancher instead of running the country, when Hawaii and Martha's Vineyard were just vacations.

The Africa trip by Obama is just bad timing, with the White House closed because of budget cuts, and all the other budget cuts for him to spend 100 million on a family vacation is pretty stupid...It seems like a waste of money to me.

It's not a vacation, it's like any other Presidential foreign tour. It's just to the neglected continent of Africa, and not to Europe or Asia this time.

I think another thing is all the trips he makes for stupid reasons, like going to FL to play golf with Tiger Woods, He and His wife have also taken seperate planes a few hours apart, its the waste of money that I think is making people mad.

W and his wife did the same things.

The Bushes are not even from Texas; just as Romney is not from Massachusetts. George H.W. Bush was born in Milton, Ma and "W" was born in Conneticut...both yankees!

Like I said...I'm sure there was some name calling and a failure to have an open disscussion on the thread..typical response as usual. Nothing intelligent.

Nightowl wrote:Still cheaper than renting the house in Martha's vinayard, or renting all the places in Hawaii. Crawford, TX and Camp David are paid for and cost nothing extra except the travel there.

But to be honest, this is a stupid thing to even be talking about.

To be honest, that was a low information post because what's stupid is the claim that a presidential family vacation to Martha's Vineyard or anywhere else is more expensive than to Crawford (77 times!) or Camp David because they cost nothing except the travel:

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics ... lic/63691/But here's how presidential vacations work: presidents pay for their vacations, taxpayers pay for security like Secret Service protection, just as they do if the President stays home at the White House. In 2009, the Obama family vacationed in Martha's Vineyard and rented a home that cost $35,000 a week which, according to NBC News, they paid for. This is the way it goes for President Obama, has gone for past presidents, and will go for every American president....As Doug Wead, a presidential historian and one-time assistant to George W. Bush, wrote for the conservative-leaning Newsmax in 2009:...The Bush twins visited Europe during their father’s presidency, as did children of the Carters, Fords, Nixons, and Eisenhowers. I actually traveled with Neil Bush to Europe during his father’s presidency. And he was all over Asia. The Kennedy kids visited Europe with their mother during JFK’s presidency.See, it's a perk—a perk that you get when your dad or mom becomes president. And if you look at the Bush twins' trip to Argentina in 2006, they stayed despite reports that the embassy suggested they leave early—ABC had reported the Embassy asked them to cut their vacation short, the embassy later denied the report. Either way, we had to pay for the Secret Service protection then too and will do for Obama's daughters, and any children of our future presidents.

Thanks for the information.

Like I said...I'm sure there was some name calling and a failure to have an open disscussion on the thread..typical response as usual. Nothing intelligent.

Nightowl wrote:Going to Crawford, TX and Camp David should not be compared to going to Hawaii and Martha's Vineyard.....

You're right, because we paid millions to upgrade the ranch in Crawford so W could live there and clear brush and play at being a rancher instead of running the country, when Hawaii and Martha's Vineyard were just vacations.

The Africa trip by Obama is just bad timing, with the White House closed because of budget cuts, and all the other budget cuts for him to spend 100 million on a family vacation is pretty stupid...It seems like a waste of money to me.

It's not a vacation, it's like any other Presidential foreign tour. It's just to the neglected continent of Africa, and not to Europe or Asia this time.

I think another thing is all the trips he makes for stupid reasons, like going to FL to play golf with Tiger Woods, He and His wife have also taken seperate planes a few hours apart, its the waste of money that I think is making people mad.

W and his wife did the same things.

The Bushes are not even from Texas; just as Romney is not from Massachusetts. George H.W. Bush was born in Milton, Ma and "W" was born in Conneticut...both yankees!

Deceptive. W spent most of his life in Texas. The location where he was merely born means nothing.

Also the cost of the vacations of Laura pale in comparisan to the multimillion dollar plush vacations taken by Michelle "Antoinette" Obama.

Lets all hope that Limbaughs prediction that Michelle will run for Senate, just like Hillary, comes true. Hillary is the Vegas odds favorite for the nomination and to be the next POUTUS, with Michelle taking over 8 years later.

Why do you care you plan on leaving the US anyway. I guess you want to elect Democrats so you can laugh at all of us poor folks suffering while you live in the lap of luxury courtesy of your trust fund status.