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I not sure who stated that GNP+USA has any roots with GNP Plus for that is very true GNP+USA is completly independent network..

Drederdick, (oops, a typo!)

Anyone seeing what you've decided to call your organisation would assume that you were a branch of GNP+, as you basically stole their name (and decided to claim that the + was a plug for Jesus).

And please, start being honest and stop trying to make it look like you didn't steal the name. The ONLY place you see the name of the organisation written as "GNP Plus" is in the URL of their website - because characters such as + are not permitted to be used that way in URLs. Their logo/brand is GNP+. If you didn't want people to think you were associated with GNP+, you would have called your organisation something different, and you still could have used a + and claimed it was your little Jesus plug.

This was a duplicate thread that was also posted in the Activism forum; when Ann merged the two she left it in the Living With forum. Perhaps now that we know it is an activist thread the Moderators could move it back to the proper forum?

It is all good with me .. but you better check with Ann we don't want her to get upset and run to Tim

I got to run Guys have a great day and be well.. and look foward to more comunication in the future

You crack me up. Run to Tim? (you got the name right!) Tim doesn't do my bidding; I fight my own battles, mate, and I'm quite handy with the ban button. Censorship? More like cutting out the noise pollution.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

No one knows GNP Plus for they are a dot in a large world.. and I am suprise you are adressing me for the last time you wrote, you stated that you would not be writing in this forum.. I adressed your attacks ion me and GNP+USA in the other forum of the travel ban, get over it Ann and move on.. How about adressing A Cure for AIDS and the needs of the 30 million people instead of attacking me and GNP+USA for that seem to be you motive, since I came into this forum and then tring to get your POZ gang to do the same. Oh Ann you are very cunning.. I asked for forgivness but will not be bully by you and you have no power of me sister.

I not sure where you are from but here in the USA we have freedom of expression and creativity.. and since GNP+USA I help formed I can create what I wish for the LOGO of the + for it is all good sister.. peace and lots of love for that is what the Cross + brings to me .. try it .. you like it. Again my hope are to put tension on folks to focus on a Cure for AIDS and help the 30 milion in need..

No one knows GNP Plus for they are a dot in a large world.. and I am suprise you are adressing me for the last time you wrote, you stated that you would not be writing in this forum.. I adressed your attacks ion me and GNP+USA in the other forum of the travel ban, get over it Ann and move on.. How about adressing A Cure for AIDS and the needs of the 30 million people instead of attacking me and GNP+USA for that seem to be you motive, since I came into this forum and then tring to get your POZ gang to do the same. Oh Ann you are very cunning.. I asked for forgivness but will not be bully by you and you have no power of me sister.

Wow you are a nasty little creature.. who is moderating you .. Wow.. nasty... so get your gang together and kick me out Rob.. for is not that the intention of you an Ann and her following, for then you can keep control of your territory.

Peace man and I still love you and sorry that you have been hurt in the past and hope you heal from the pain for you words reveil the pain in your heart.. very sorry...

Wow you are a nasty little creature.. who is moderating you .. Wow.. nasty... so get your gang together and kick me out Rob.. for is not that the intention of you an Ann and her following, for then you can keep control of your territory.

Peace man and I still love you and sorry that you have been hurt in the past and hope you heal from the pain for you words reveil the pain in your heart.. very sorry...

Oh guys you know what mamma would say if you don't have anything nice to say .. do not say anything..and it is so cool to be out and not have to hide behind a screen name for the freedom is overwheming... try it you like it.. come out...Have a good evening I need to get to a class and move on,so be blessed in your journey and know more love... dudes

Setting the record Straight

Ann

I did not steal the name for it is a forgein group and has no USA idenity or rights of ownership in the USA for it is like the compulary liscening thing but different for no one knows what they do.. and in the past GNP PLUS had one excutive director and no staff and no advocacy effort at all in the USA. Just got very fed up with them talking all the credit and not doing any work and feeding off USA funding, where you might know USA funds 1/3 of the Global Fund and is Funding 9 billion a year now for HIV, AIDS, TB and Maleria.. Just sick and tried of forgein groups pushing the USA around like we are dogs and we give more than any other Country and just setting the record straight. And would like GNP PLUS to stay out of USA politic as they have done so successfully in the past

Oh, well God bless Queen of the Common Weath and the people of Englan for they have given more than the USA, however She is very shy about annoucing it for the Grace of Her Christian faith doesn't boast in Charity Works.. And Again God Bless the Queen and the Common Wealth for I am sure you must feel many blessings to be apart of such a great Country and Godly Works of a Christian Nation that help some many folks out and wish more nation could understand True Charity.

Strange, Rodney, dear , you used to be able to smell a rat miles away !! this one seems to escape you time and again.

Now Frederick boy, let us have a talk; you and me. This thread contains 108 postings, you posted at the present moment 44 ; Ann , blessed her patience, did 15 ; Basquo , for his good will did 7. When i observed the way you addressed them, only with Ann you remained constant. With Basquo , you either spelled BASQUO or Basquo. So it is very possible that you had been abused by your father in your youth. Had your father died or had he stopped abusing you ?? And you are right now suffering from addiction withdrawal ??Fine , now you get that butt of your's over on four limbs so that i can whip it raw , then lock you up in the closet , like your dad used to do . Oh do not worry, i will not do like your dad, open the closet door, put you on your knees (like you are praying to Jesus) and relieve himself, i prefer to do it into a bowl. Tell you what , i am giving you a bonus, i give you a portable PC , so you can have some light within the darkness, you can then advocate for - Cure for Aids, GNP+USA, 30 millions not receiving aids................Oh while you are at it , please lock into lockmeintheclosetand throwawaythekey.com

I can't identify with the judgment of our great group wasting precious time with a highjacker.

Ignore and overlook all highjackers and letís continue on with our important and relevant business. Highjackers are predisposed to migrate to other web-site-forums when their relevancies have been reduced to rat-shit.

I will not post anything relevant to any highjackerís posting whatsoever.

Strange, Rodney, dear , you used to be able to smell a rat miles away !! this one seems to escape you time and again.

Now Frederick boy, let us have a talk; you and me. This thread contains 108 postings, you posted at the present moment 44 ; Ann , blessed her patience, did 15 ; Basquo , for his good will did 7. When i observed the way you addressed them, only with Ann you remained constant. With Basquo , you either spelled BASQUO or Basquo. So it is very possible that you had been abused by your father in your youth. Had your father died or had he stopped abusing you ?? And you are right now suffering from addiction withdrawal ??Fine , now you get that butt of your's over on four limbs so that i can whip it raw , then lock you up in the closet , like your dad used to do . Oh do not worry, i will not do like your dad, open the closet door, put you on your knees (like you are praying to Jesus) and relieve himself, i prefer to do it into a bowl. Tell you what , i am giving you a bonus, i give you a portable PC , so you can have some light within the darkness, you can then advocate for - Cure for Aids, GNP+USA, 30 millions not receiving aids................Oh while you are at it , please lock into lockmeintheclosetand throwawaythekey.com

Most Fascinating how this Topic Keeps Getting Move Around ,for it is the story of my life, for folks just do not know what mold to put me in.

Tim-bo and Ann

Love you Both and find your communication very hurmous at times and can not wait to meet you in person one day to give you both a big KISS.....

Defining the Cure for AIDS with hopes for the 30 million PEOPLE that don't have excess to AIDS MEDS will have hope and life?

I just got back from a clinic appointment where my HIV Healthcare provider Dr. Don Kurtyka (good guy and like him a lot) inform me that Gilead Science the manufacture of Atripa has capture 75 percent of the HIV/AIDS market. Well this makes me think, would it not be wonderful if all 30 million HIV people on our Globe had a pill available to them called Atripla. And how could this happen. I am thinking of the concept for some time now.One way is that President Obama could step in and call for a National Global Emergency and break the patient to allow a lot of manufactures to start making Atripa with an executive order. This would bring the cost down and create a generic market and President Obama could also inform his staff to make Atripa available over the counter for sale as a PEP or PrEP to all in the USA to stop new infections. This could slow down new HIV infections (saving resources) and keep people in an HIV status, NOT AIDS. He could also ask for a refining of the term AIDS to follow the Global Scientist in creating a protocol of HIV stage 1, HIV stage 2, or HIV stage 3 illness and call for a end to the word AIDS as we know it to be. One of my teachers in the past would say that the ask must conclude with an action of NOW.

That way my first though, however I am a compassionate guy and like Robert Chenney and Company, for I believe in the free enterprise system where people should and must have a right to sell their ideas, inventions or Intellectual Property in a free market. GNP+USA would like for it to be a FAIR and Free Market. So in my research of the past both in policy, advocacy and economic I learned there is always a middle road of compromise. Secondly our President with the support of AIDS Inc in America, Activists, Advocates, and the whole community could create a plan where the USA would buy down the patient of Atrpla for a negotiated price a few billions dollars or so and take it out of PEPFAR funding, so Giliead would not lose money and Americaís would not loss jobs. We could also make a compact with Gilead to open a couple more manufacturing plants in the USA to mass produce Atripla( put HIV people back to work with good health insurance, a good pay check and hope for the future, saving again on USA resources and money) And then employ the above plan to bring Atripla price down and hopes for the 30 million people with HIV/AIDS that donít have AIDSMEDS a fighting chance to live another day for the supply would go up and the price would come down.I thought I share today what A Cure for AIDS could look like and know my Faith tells me the Cure for AIDS is in oneís heart of action.I sure this plan needs more research and fleshing out , but here it is in Black and White or what the beltway people would call a White Page and please feel free to forward, copy or use this intellectual property as Open Souce and Public Domain for my heart is for the 30 million HIV people that are crying out for Help in our global communities.Sincerely,Frederick Wright GNP+USA

I don't know why people are so fanatical about a cure for AIDS/HIV. Why can't we just be realistic? I mean come on, how many viruses do you know of that we have a cure for? Not even the flu counts there and we've been getting that virus for millions of years. I certainly can't think of one.

So what are the chances we'll ever find a cure for AIDS? Realistically, NIL. It is a virus. Antibiotics don't work for viruses. End of story.

What can we hope for? Better medicines. Immunization. Strides in DNA therapy may make a dent sometime in the future. But none of those counts as a cure.

We can win the war on AIDS with science. But if we carry on thinking about AIDS in unnatural, supernatural, overoptimistic and uninformed terms, we will lose.

Littlefire, How can you compare flu with HIV. What is the cure for FLU? Who will search for it, when the body always cures the flu by itself. Drink paracetamol, Vitamin C, Aspirin and the flu is gone. It cures by itself.

You know it's not the same question with HIV/AIDS.

The only thing I say is that much more budget should be spent on a cure. And I believe it could come out somewhere soon. Especially with these gene therapies.

But the big buys pulling the strings - do they want to be found a cure? I doubt it. Economically told - AIDS is one of the biggest bussiness. So that's why a cure was still not found I think. Just an opinion.

Why find a cure? Cos at, say (conservatively), $5-50,000 a piece (depending on geographical region) and 40+ million people that's a load of cash, plus the new infection rate ain't really decreasing, and the marketing kudos in terms of brand for having found a cure is mucho mucho big (= more sales of other durgs, greater investment). Plus perhaps corporate mission. Many drug cos produce products which cure people, eg antibiotics. - matt

I don't know why people are so fanatical about a cure for AIDS/HIV. Why can't we just be realistic? I mean come on, how many viruses do you know of that we have a cure for? Not even the flu counts there and we've been getting that virus for millions of years. I certainly can't think of one.

As for the flu, i think you are confusing 2 differente things: cure and immunity.

Everybody has a cure for the flu. Your own natural defenses cure it, whenever you have a flu and gets rid of it. That is why no big money will be ever spent in a cure for the flu, cause healthy human immune systems are able to cure the flu naturally.

Maybe you are refering to the fact that, despite curing the flu every time we have it, we do not develop immune protection agaisnt it, which means we end up getting the flu again, sooner or later. But this does not mean our bodies are not able to cure it, it just means that, despite curing it several times during the course of a lifetime, our immune systems are not able to develop immune protection.

Why find a cure? Cos at, say (conservatively), $5-50,000 a piece (depending on geographical region) and 40+ million people that's a load of cash, plus the new infection rate ain't really decreasing, and the marketing kudos in terms of brand for having found a cure is mucho mucho big (= more sales of other durgs, greater investment). Plus perhaps corporate mission. Many drug cos produce products which cure people, eg antibiotics. - matt

Can I remind people that flu kills? We don't necessarily "cure flu everytime we have it".

During a typical year in the United States, 30,000 to 50,000 persons die as a result of influenza viral infection. Frequently cited numbers are 20,000 deaths each year, and 37,000 annual deaths. About 5-10% of hospitalizations for influenza lead to fatal outcome in adults.source

2008-2009 Influenza Season Week 14 ending April 11, 2009(All data are preliminary and may change as more reports are received.)Synopsis:

During week 14 (April 5-11, 2009), influenza activity continued to decrease in the United States.

* Two hundred fifty-nine (9.0%) specimens tested by U.S. World Health Organization (WHO) and National Respiratory and Enteric Virus Surveillance System (NREVSS) collaborating laboratories and reported to CDC/Influenza Division were positive for influenza. * The proportion of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza (P&I) was at the epidemic threshold. * Eight influenza-associated pediatric deaths were reported. * The proportion of outpatient visits for influenza-like illness (ILI) was below the national baseline. Two of nine surveillance regions reported ILI above their region-specific baselines (East South Central and Mountain). * One state reported widespread influenza activity, 14 states reported regional activity; 22 states reported local influenza activity; the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, and 12 states reported sporadic influenza activity; and one state reported no influenza activity.source

During the 2007--2008 season, influenza activity** peaked in mid-February and was associated with greater overall mortality, and higher rates of hospitalizations among children aged 0-4 years compared with each of the previous three seasons. Influenza A (H1) viruses were most commonly isolated from October to mid-January, but influenza A (H3) viruses increased in circulation in January and predominated during the season overall. From late March through May, when overall influenza activity was declining, more influenza B than influenza A viruses were reported.sourceread more

For example, in the US in 2005, there were 12,543 deaths in the US due to HIV Disease. source This can be compared to the estimated 30,000 to 50,000 influenza-attributable deaths each year in the US alone.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

"Can I remind people that flu kills? We don't necessarily "cure flu everytime we have it". ..."

What Ann said... and in addition the 1918 flu pandemic killed somewhere between 20 and 50 million people in one year. US deaths were over 675,000. And that was back when world population levels were still under 2 billion.

Troubling news from Mexico. Hope everyone here has had their flu shots.

"MEXICO CITY — Mexican officials, scrambling to control a swine flu outbreak that has killed as many as 61 people and infected possibly hundreds more in recent weeks, closed museums and shuttered schools for millions of students in and around the capital on Friday, and urged people with flu symptoms to stay home from work.

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Most of Mexico’s dead were young, healthy adults, and none were over 60 or under 3 years old, the World Health Organization said. That alarms health officials because seasonal flus cause most of their deaths among infants and bedridden elderly people, but pandemic flus — like the 1918 Spanish flu, and the 1957 and 1968 pandemics — often strike young, healthy people the hardest.

Mexican officials promised a huge immunization campaign in the capital in the coming days, while urging people to avoid large gatherings and to refrain from shaking hands or greeting women with a kiss on the right cheek, as is common in Mexico"

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts