Drug Testing Potential Summer Analysts

Ok, so a really quick and random question. Are drug tests used when hiring summer analysts?

Wall Street Drug Test

When preparing to go through the recruitment process with a bank you should be prepared to take a drug test. A bank has the right to drug test for employment. If you are drug tested it will most likely be a urine test. Below is a list of major banks that have conducted drug tests. A test would be part of a pre-employment screen. These tests will most likely be conducted by a nurse practitioner or doctor. This person may or not be present when you are providing the sample.

Notable Investment Banks That Drug Tests

Citi Bank

Deutsche Bank

Goldman Sachs

JP Morgan

Morgan Stanley

UBS

Wells Fargo

RBC Capital Markets

This list is by no means all-inclusive. There is a searchable database that you can access here. You can simply search for the bank or firm interest. The best way to avoid any issues with testing is practicing self-control at least a month prior to the beginning of the recruiting process.

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haha this is ridiculous. first off, it's a urine test, and i'm pretty sure all banks test their summers on the first day of your internship (mine did at least). we were told ahead of time, and I'm pretty sure that that is the standatd. most hard drugs (amphetamines and other stimulants) will be out of your system within 5 days. Marijuana may take slighter longer, and even longer if you're a heavy user. if you can't just stop using whatever you're using for 5 days to 2 weeks, you probably shouldn't be in banking since you have no self-control.

you declare any medications you're taking prior to the test that may show up, although if prescribed something like adderol, i'd probably just skip the dose for that week since it will eliminate having to have the bank get the prescription confirmed by your doctor.

Most urine tests can be passed by drinking special flushing drinks or even from buying synthetic urine or real urine online to pass the test. Up to you but a friend of mine got busted trying it in drug rehab. Just search around online and you can find places offering with guarantees that their stuff will have you pass.

Just make sure you haven't smoked or anything within a few weeks of the drug test and you'll be fine. :) I've heard of people being tested for SAs and people also not being tested... time varies a lot by firm, some will do it immediately, others will wait etc.

Plus honestly if you're a regular drug user you probably shouldn't be doing this job, all joking about bankers being cocaine addicts aside.

Just make sure you haven't smoked or anything within a few weeks of the drug test and you'll be fine. :) I've heard of people being tested for SAs and people also not being tested... time varies a lot by firm, some will do it immediately, others will wait etc.

Plus honestly if you're a regular drug user you probably shouldn't be doing this job, all joking about bankers being cocaine addicts aside.

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some places actually make you pee in the office on the first? thats kinda weird... isnt the whole point of the drug test a "pre-employment" procedure, along with background checks? the few times ive had to take a drug test for a job it was always at a 3rd-party lab and they give you a certain deadline of when to take it, like 2 weeks before your start date or whatever.

i cant believe some places make you test in your first day as an intern...seems illogical. what a waste of resources to fully hire someone and get them settled in, only to kick them out immediately if they find out theyve been using drugs

Depends on the company.. Large companies may require you to take a drug test. But such tests are just like an alcohol treatment center It depends on you to be drug free for your own safety. Just try to be drug free all the time if you want a job and one that pays well.

Does anyone know if the large firms are using hair testing? In particular, I'm wondering about Citigroup and also UBS. Is urine testing currently what their using, or do they do hair testing, which is much more sensitive and goes back 90 days?

Thanks for the fast reply. I had been looking at the testclear site, and didn't see anything in particular about Citi and UBS. It seems that most firms do urine, but the hair is becoming more common, and can find minor things from 2 or 3 months back, so it would be really good to know. There were no recent mentions on these 2 companies, so if anyone has information it would be greatly appreciated.

If you are concerned about whether or not you will pass a drug test, the safest possible way to handle the situation would be to have a drug detox. This would ensure that everything has been cleared out of your system.

You most certainly can blow while hungover. You have never woken up still drunk from staying out til 3:30/4:00/bar close? I have a buddy who, when he was underage, got a ticket when he showed up to a tailgate having not had a drink yet, thanks to the night before.

You have to do it no sooner than 30 days before your start date and no later than 5 days before your start date. At least thats what my packet said. You have to have fingerprints done also. I'm assuming its a urine test. Just don't smoke and you're fine.

Hello! I'm a recent hire in a BB SA position. I signed my offer letter two weeks ago, and filled in all the reqiured forms, which included signing a few docs unrelated to background/drug tests. Apparently, I'm all set to go, according to HR. However, they never asked me to fill in any background check or drug forms. I'm so confused! Don't firms usually go through background checks in the beginning? (criminal background checks, at the very least!)

alright aspiring monkey, have at it. I'm getting you started on recreational drugs. Let's hear it.

don't do it:P, the way I see it, its a waste of money and since its not controlled you are very likely to get some bad drugs and die.

have to think about it in the risk vs reward sense...reward: I'll feel happy risk: I'll die.

But personally I don't care what other people do on their own time, its your life, and if you are dumb enough to eat a pill that you get from a shady guy in a dark alley, then its obviosly that you are just there to remind us of Darwinism while you twitch on the floor foaming at the mouth.

The gov't should control drugs though. Not that whole war on drugs thing which is an obvious failure, but a system of checks and balances. Make it like liquor...have to be 21 to use, can't be publically intoxicated, can't drive under the influence etc. Then of course tax the crap out of it to help reduce the deficit.

Example: an Exctacy pill costs what 20 bucks? It hardly costs that much to produce, so the whole profit goes into the pockets of the dealer, the goverment will just replace the dealer, and pocket the change.

But with the gov't controlling it, they'll a) have quality control b) the crime will also be reduced c) gov't will make money.

I mean think about it, liquor and cigarettes are a hundred times more harmfull than marijuana, yet one is legal and the other is not.

Personally, I never used drugs, I've never smoked, and drinking I keep to social occasions.

If you are paranoid about a drug test, if that is the thing causing you to lose sleep at night, good. It should be!!! What are you thinking?

There may be detox kits, herbal mixes, and 2 week abstinence rituals to try to cheat these tests. However folks delivering drug tests know about them. So the tests simultaneously check for natural "irregularities". You may be asked to repeat a test not on account of a trace of a drug, but on account of some other suspicious irregularity. Also, many shops give you last minute, 24 hour window in which to submit to a drug test.

It says a lot about someone's character and how they will inevitably represent themselves in the workforce if at this early age you're trying to cheat a drug test. What else will you cheat?

If you are paranoid about a drug test, if that is the thing causing you to lose sleep at night, good. It should be!!! What are you thinking?

There may be detox kits, herbal mixes, and 2 week abstinence rituals to try to cheat these tests. However folks delivering drug tests know about them. So the tests simultaneously check for natural "irregularities". You may be asked to repeat a test not on account of a trace of a drug, but on account of some other suspicious irregularity. Also, many shops give you last minute, 24 hour window in which to submit to a drug test.

It says a lot about someone's character and how they will inevitably represent themselves in the workforce if at this early age you're trying to cheat a drug test. What else will you cheat?

How is it trying to cheat a drug test? Cheating a drug test would be trying to register a false negative. If you don't have the drug in your system you aren't cheating.

Yep, only thing is that alot of people use Riatlin/Adderall for finals, which happen to be right before the summer internships start. Anyway apparently Ritalin isn't detected by the NIDA-5 Panel test so everyone should stick to that!

Do banks do drug tests for summer interns? (i know that most do for grad positions) Does anyone have any info on the type of test they do? Does it pick up Ritalin/Adderall?

Thanks for any info.

A lot of companies do physicals and drug tests nowadays. Not just banks.

My friend has ADD and needs Ritalin and even for his summer internship with an airline he had to notify the company that he has to take it. Granted, neither of us had to get tested for our internships (I was at Manulife) but you had to sign a disclaimer about any "substances" you were presently on.

Guys, if you take Adderall, it WILL show up in a pee test as an amphetamine. If you have a prescription, this will only cause you a little bit of grief and raise a red flag or two that you'll easily be able to put down (particularly if they let you disclose the prescription beforehand).

But here's my advice. Whether or not you have a prescription, stop taking Adderall before the test. I use prescribed Adderall, and I still don't want to go through the hassle of having to prove stuff and have people think I'm A) a user of street drugs or B) crazy because I need prescription drugs. At most normal use levels (unless you're on 30s or doubling up), Adderall XR is reportedly undetectable after 48 hours (it has a half-life of around four hours after its second "pulse", which is T+3 to T+5 hours. Personally, I give it two weeks or more to be redundantly uber-uber-safe. I've passed three drug tests this way without any red flag.

And when it comes to urine testing, guys, be smart. Urine is a solution of waste in water. The more water, the fewer PPM of waste. Basic urine tests aren't incredibly sensitive, so even if you have to take your (fully-legal prescription) Adderall three or five days before the test, water-load and pee constantly the day of the test and then go in with a full bladder of (relatively) clean urine. Pee for a second first to clear your urethra, then fill the cup with mid-stream urine, which is the cleanest. Make the cup as full as possible, ensuring a homogenous solution.

Oh, and do not tamper with drug tests, people. It's way easier to fail a test through tampering than by actually being drug-positive. Don't buy clean urine; it's a bitch to get the temperature right as it has to be between 94-100 when you hand it to the tester. And don't do pot, because from what I hear it's almost impossible to hide.

Also, try not to go into the test within 18 hours after eating large quantities of the following substances: asparagus, artichokes, verveine, sage, the dense sweet poppy seed filling you get in some pastries, spinach, turnip greens, pokeleaf, "rabbit tobacco", collard greens, and kale. All of them in massive quantities can come across as opiates or marijuana. (Also, don't eat tons of morning glory seeds or drink tinctures made of such, but if you're doing that, you probably don't need me to tell you.)

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