Yeah, it was pritty weak, I thought it would have been a bigger everything, maybe even showed the movie, but nothing I thought it would have, toys revealed, weak, just all around I would have been disapointed if I had gone....

Never having been to a Botcon, from an outsider looking in via this board, Botcon's that happen around movie releases tend to suck. Coincidence, maybe? But I suppose the Botcon around the first Bay movie was hype because it was new and fresh, and people wanted to see how the look of the Bay-verse formers would look as toys. But now that we know the aesthetic, it presents a lackluster showing. Especially considering most figures will back and looking the same (with minor tweaks) ie Prime, BB, Ratchet, Ironhide, Starscream, etc etc.

In all honesty, on thing that I feel has been Hasbro's biggest mistake is this CHUG bs. Drop all of the names, call it Transformers Generations, and make THAT the line that runs all the time! You never know what could show up in it. Beast Wars, Cybertron, Armada, R.I.D, Classics, Alternator, ANYTHING!!!!!!!!! The world of TF's is pretty vast, and imagine the hype that would be built if at Botcon we saw upcoming waves of the Transformers Generations line. (like DCUC or Marvel Legends) TF Generations wave 1, 2, 3 etc.

But then again, a few Generations toys notwithstanding, Botcon is always a let down for me. Less than zero interest in the movie and, to be fair, I haven't really cared that much about any Hasbro line since Alternators finished.

Hard to get excited about a new "Masterpiece" when I've owned the Takara version for months in advance and yet that's probably the best news that's come out of this weekend.

In all honesty, on thing that I feel has been Hasbro's biggest mistake is this CHUG bs. Drop all of the names, call it Transformers Generations, and make THAT the line that runs all the time! You never know what could show up in it. Beast Wars, Cybertron, Armada, R.I.D, Classics, Alternator, ANYTHING!!!!!!!!! The world of TF's is pretty vast, and imagine the hype that would be built if at Botcon we saw upcoming waves of the Transformers Generations line. (like DCUC or Marvel Legends) TF Generations wave 1, 2, 3 etc.

That would bring the hype back to botcon. IMO

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I don't exactly see how you think changing the name of one of their lines will rejuvenate Botcon.

It doesn't even need rejuvenation. This year was just a lackluster year (So far. Today is the day we usually see the big Hasbro panel). Last year and the year before were pretty damn fantastic.

Never having been to a Botcon, from an outsider looking in via this board, Botcon's that happen around movie releases tend to suck. Coincidence, maybe? But I suppose the Botcon around the first Bay movie was hype because it was new and fresh, and people wanted to see how the look of the Bay-verse formers would look as toys. But now that we know the aesthetic, it presents a lackluster showing. Especially considering most figures will back and looking the same (with minor tweaks) ie Prime, BB, Ratchet, Ironhide, Starscream, etc etc.

In all honesty, on thing that I feel has been Hasbro's biggest mistake is this CHUG bs. Drop all of the names, call it Transformers Generations, and make THAT the line that runs all the time! You never know what could show up in it. Beast Wars, Cybertron, Armada, R.I.D, Classics, Alternator, ANYTHING!!!!!!!!! The world of TF's is pretty vast, and imagine the hype that would be built if at Botcon we saw upcoming waves of the Transformers Generations line. (like DCUC or Marvel Legends) TF Generations wave 1, 2, 3 etc.

That would bring the hype back to botcon. IMO

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Pretty sure BotCon 2007 was totally awesome for two big reasons: people got to see the movie with lots of fellow fans and the Hasbro tour. The Movie toys had already been out for at least a month by that point.

As for the variously named lines that consist mainly of G1 updates , I'm pretty sure Hasbro have their reasons that we probably don't understand for doing what they do. Because they run a successful toy company, and we don't.

I think it also has to do with the proximity to comicon - surprisingly, I actually get the feeling they are trying to NOT show off everything before the movie comes out (mirage/Dino, Wheeljack/Que,etc)

Maybe there will be a couple surprises.

I am also confused that they'd confirm Generations is continuing, but give basically ZERO DETAILS. (there is basically the rest of the years worth of waves in just instruction-manual teased remolds and obvious repaints)

But yeah, very disappointing IMHO. also the 3rd year in a row I've been VERY disappointed in the exclusives...