And BTW I routinely trade away my draftpicks in the 2 progressives I am still in.
There are a ton of factors, most very obvious, but looking over my past 10 progressive seaons, it looks like I trade out of the top 2-3 rounds about 1/2 the time.

At my height of progressives, I was in 10 (2 folded). But like just4me said, I found out what I liked and did not like.
The last 1 I left, due to time constraints was shadow35's. I was one of 4 expansion teams in '69 and left before the '73 season. I was horrid, but left the team w/ a stacked 1970's rotation, a decent offense and the 7th or 8th pick. Sure I'm no saint, but I am also pretty sure I NEVER left my team in a lurch.
Most often, the teams I inherited were on the upswing when I left them.

My only beef was the traded the 1 and 2. Sure they were probably picks 21-24 or 45-48, but they still would be helpfull in rebuilding.

Posted by slickstick81 on 2/16/2011 11:58:00 PM (view original):If I understand this correctly, the owner inherited a "powerhouse" club after the 1987 season.

THEN: Going into the '88 draft, the team payroll was 68M for 20 players.
NOW: Going into the '93 draft, this team's payroll is 61M for 19 players.

Inherited best multi season players on the team
Roger Clemens, Ryne Sandberg, Paul Molitor, Kent Hrbek

Current best multi season players on the team
Roger Clemens, Juan Guzman, Kirby Puckett, Paul Molitor, Mickey Tettleton

The owner of this inherited "powerhouse" team has
traded away it's 1st rd pick every season dating back
to the '89 draft.

The owner has traded away
it's 2nd rd pick in all drafts dating back
to the '89 draft, sans '91 when he selected
3B Leo Gomez, who's best season is yet
to come in '94.

I would argue that this team is in better shape now,
then when it was inherited.

This owner also stated, he would return if he won the WS.
The owner did win the WS and will indeed honor his statement.

"I would argue that this team is in better shape now,
then when it was inherited."

And I would argue that statement is ridiculous.....you inherited a team with 3 HOF's in the prime of their careers..... you're leaving it with Juan Guzman and Mickey Tettleton? Come on man, that core isn't awful but it isn't any where near what you got.

First, thanks to all who defended my name. If I may have a chance to explain, I’m new to this prog league thing. I’m in one league so far and I’m really enjoying it. In regards to the 82 prog league I attempted to join, what happened was after my first several picks, I started receiving emails from the commish about my intentions. After assuring him I was really excited about being in the league and had no intent to bail, I was asked to transfer a team over to him. I declined because I had never heard of such a thing and was a little insulted. So everything stated in the forum is true.

My intention for the league was to draft as much pitching as I possibly could up front and use them as trading chips for future picks or hitting. I absolutely knew I’d have a few good years and then have to rebuild. But that’s why I was so excited to get into the league from the beginning. I was looking forward to taking a franchise through the ups and downs. I actually put a lot of time into my drafting strategy.

A couple things:

First, after reading through this post, I do better understand what commissioners have to go through. I’d be just as upset as you if I were in the same situation and had owners bailing on you.

A couple points of unsolicited advice:

1) how about letting owners know that you’d like them to stay in the leagues for up to a certain amount of seasons in advance. I’ve noticed that in several of the listings on here and think it’s a great idea.

2) if you’re planning on blacklisting somebody, how about site-mailing them so they have a chance to respond. If not, as some suggested, there could be another problem.

If I could also remind the commissioners of these leagues that when you send out requests to be in your league, that maybe you let prospective owners know your requirements. I was upfront with the commish in this league about being new to prog leagues.

By the way, if I was guilty of anything in this matter, it was possibly a bad drafting strategy (although I really wish I would have had the chance to employ it). And as much as I do feel for the commissioners of these leagues, I pay for my teams just as you do and should have a right to draft who I want. And I did not quit on this league as much as I wasn't able to proceed with my picks to employ my strategy. I try to be an honest guy and if I say I'm going to do something, I do it.

Just for the record, I harbor no ill will towards the commish of the league. Especially after reading this forum, I understand the difficulties you all must face. I just wish he would have handled the situation better and given me some consideration since I was upfront from the beginning with my intentions. Because of my experience I am hestitant to join another league for fear of getting into this situation again.

Finally, lets try to remember this is supposed to be fun. At least it is for me. It’s a nice diversion from everyday life that gives me something to do.

I've got to add ronblood to the list. He has burned several leagues without returning sitemails and I guess the SSHH is just the latest. He was late for drafts, often selected players that had already been picked several rounds before, and generally disrupted the flow of our inaugural draft. I would not suggest letting him in a progressive league...there are just too many negatives.

Posted by Trentonjoe on 2/10/2011 7:09:00 AM (view original):In one of the leagues I run, I give new owners an extra pick at the end of the 1st round as an incentive to join. You might want to run that by your league to see if they would approve of the that. It might help.

Who wants to play in a league where 1 guy never meets a deadline, continually holds up drafts and delays the start of a league? Not just frustrating for the commish... but frustrating for the majority of owners. Strike one, strike two, strike three you're out!

Posted by Bootone on 1/14/2012 6:30:00 PM (view original):Who wants to play in a league where 1 guy never meets a deadline, continually holds up drafts and delays the start of a league? Not just frustrating for the commish... but frustrating for the majority of owners. Strike one, strike two, strike three you're out!