So it's not okay to release someone who spent 36 years in prison for a crime in which no one got hurt?

I mean, the crime was severe enough to justify every last day of that, and I wouldn't shed tears over him having to stay in jail longer, but if it's deemed he's no longer a threat to society and the courts feel it's appropriate to parole him, I don't see what the big deal is.

MaudlinMutantMollusk:Paris1127: Guy's just lucky they didn't stick him in prison in Chowchilla... They couldn't do that though, because Chowchilla's prisons are for women only.

Is it just me or does Chowchilla sound like some sort of dangerous cryptid crossover between a dog and chinchilla?

I always envisioned a cross between a bad-tempered furry Japanese dog and a bad-tempered Japanese giant radioactive lizard

Awesome. Let's pitch it to SyFy, maybe we can get a made-for-TV movie starring a washed-up 80s pop star. We'll call it Chowchilla. And it'll be about a women's prison being attacked by a cross between a bad-tempered furry Japanese dog and a bad-tempered Japanese giant radioactive lizard. Gold, Jerry, gold!

Paris1127:MaudlinMutantMollusk: Paris1127: Guy's just lucky they didn't stick him in prison in Chowchilla... They couldn't do that though, because Chowchilla's prisons are for women only.

Is it just me or does Chowchilla sound like some sort of dangerous cryptid crossover between a dog and chinchilla?

I always envisioned a cross between a bad-tempered furry Japanese dog and a bad-tempered Japanese giant radioactive lizard

Awesome. Let's pitch it to SyFy, maybe we can get a made-for-TV movie starring a washed-up 80s pop star. We'll call it Chowchilla. And it'll be about a women's prison being attacked by a cross between a bad-tempered furry Japanese dog and a bad-tempered Japanese giant radioactive lizard. Gold, Jerry, gold!

MaudlinMutantMollusk:Paris1127: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Paris1127: Guy's just lucky they didn't stick him in prison in Chowchilla... They couldn't do that though, because Chowchilla's prisons are for women only.

Is it just me or does Chowchilla sound like some sort of dangerous cryptid crossover between a dog and chinchilla?

I always envisioned a cross between a bad-tempered furry Japanese dog and a bad-tempered Japanese giant radioactive lizard

Awesome. Let's pitch it to SyFy, maybe we can get a made-for-TV movie starring a washed-up 80s pop star. We'll call it Chowchilla. And it'll be about a women's prison being attacked by a cross between a bad-tempered furry Japanese dog and a bad-tempered Japanese giant radioactive lizard. Gold, Jerry, gold!

He served his time. If you're the type that thinks anyone who's ever broken a law or pulled a stupid stunt deserves to rot, you can take comfort in knowing that his accomplices are still behind bars. That should be enough masturbation material for you to last at least the rest of the morning.

Bucky Katt:Stop trying to drag logic into this. All criminals are scum and should be in jail forever.

If he had been a drug dealer or killed a guy who was nailing his wife, I'd agree with you. But I don't believe the impulse to hurt kids just goes away, even after 36 years. That's a special kind of crazy.

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich:So it's not okay to release someone who spent 36 years in prison for a crime in which no one got hurt?

Regardless of whether he has reformed or aged to the point where he can be released, it's a very odd characterization of burying a bus with 27 people and a limited air supply leaving the occupants in a hot, dark bus and no way out to call it "a crime in which no one got hurt."

No one was hurt because they escaped. It's not that these guys had any made any attempt to keep the kids and their bus driver in good shape.

swahnhennessy:He served his time. If you're the type that thinks anyone who's ever broken a law or pulled a stupid stunt deserves to rot, you can take comfort in knowing that his accomplices are still behind bars. That should be enough masturbation material for you to last at least the rest of the morning.

kidnapping 27 kids and stuffing them in a whole in the ground isn't a stupid stunt, ya f*cking dipshiat.

relcec:swahnhennessy: He served his time. If you're the type that thinks anyone who's ever broken a law or pulled a stupid stunt deserves to rot, you can take comfort in knowing that his accomplices are still behind bars. That should be enough masturbation material for you to last at least the rest of the morning.

kidnapping 27 kids and stuffing them in a whole in the ground isn't a stupid stunt, ya f*cking dipshiat.

So he should be imprisoned for life at taxpayer expense, or put to death?

Rug Doctor:Bucky Katt: Stop trying to drag logic into this. All criminals are scum and should be in jail forever.

If he had been a drug dealer or killed a guy who was nailing his wife, I'd agree with you. But I don't believe the impulse to hurt kids just goes away, even after 36 years. That's a special kind of crazy.

I have an impulse to hurt kids every time I'm around the little bastards. I've managed to control myself, so far.

some_beer_drinker:MaudlinMutantMollusk: Paris1127: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Paris1127: Guy's just lucky they didn't stick him in prison in Chowchilla... They couldn't do that though, because Chowchilla's prisons are for women only.

Is it just me or does Chowchilla sound like some sort of dangerous cryptid crossover between a dog and chinchilla?

I always envisioned a cross between a bad-tempered furry Japanese dog and a bad-tempered Japanese giant radioactive lizard

Awesome. Let's pitch it to SyFy, maybe we can get a made-for-TV movie starring a washed-up 80s pop star. We'll call it Chowchilla. And it'll be about a women's prison being attacked by a cross between a bad-tempered furry Japanese dog and a bad-tempered Japanese giant radioactive lizard. Gold, Jerry, gold!

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i would totally watch that.

I want one to take to the Dog Park and taunt the douche with a Labradoodle.

I remember that case - I grew up in Sacramento so it was all over the news. If anyone deserved to fry - die painfully in the electric chair, it was Gerald Gallego - another nightmare character from back in the day. At least he died of rectal cancer and I hope it hurt like hell every second. If he'd not gotten sick, Nevada probably would have had him in front of a firing squad for dragging bodies over the state line. Lawrence Singleton also deserved a worse death than he got.

And the East Area Rapist who graduated to murder in Southern California is still out there.....

Yeah people COULD have got hurt. Just like I COULD of farked (insert generically hot chick here). Any one who says he deserves to die or should be in prison forever is a socially repressed psychopath spewing their psychosis anonymously on the internet moments, minutes, hours, days, months before they eat someones face off.

RoyBatty:it's a very odd characterization of burying a bus with 27 people and a limited air supply leaving the occupants in a hot, dark bus and no way out to call it "a crime in which no one got hurt."

When I saw the headline, my first reaction was that the people died, because that's usually associated with the phrase "buried alive." Now, I know pretty much everyone that comments on fark reads the article first, but just in case, I used that phrase to mean no one died and/or was seriously bodily injured. I'm sure there was emotional trauma.

MaudlinMutantMollusk:relcec: swahnhennessy: He served his time. If you're the type that thinks anyone who's ever broken a law or pulled a stupid stunt deserves to rot, you can take comfort in knowing that his accomplices are still behind bars. That should be enough masturbation material for you to last at least the rest of the morning.

kidnapping 27 kids and stuffing them in a whole in the ground isn't a stupid stunt, ya f*cking dipshiat.

So he should be imprisoned for life at taxpayer expense, or put to death?

/are we going to allow debts to society to be paid off or not?

I really give a flip; the people of California can decide. every community in america can decide this shiat.

I care about assholes acting like kidnapping 27 kids and stuffing them in a hole in the ground* doesn't hurt anyone and that this is just a stupid stunt instead of a pretty god damn f*cking significant breach of social etiquette that could very well result in the rest of us very reasonably deciding to never let your ass out to play with normal people again.

and I already said I don't have an opinion about him being released.that should give you a clue that I'm not demanding he stay in prison for the rest of his natural life or be put to death.so go f*ck yourself for the stupid question.

*(that god only knows if anyone would have made it out of if not for sheer stupidity on their part and a little bit of serendipity)

freetomato:I remember that case - I grew up in Sacramento so it was all over the news. If anyone deserved to fry - die painfully in the electric chair, it was Gerald Gallego - another nightmare character from back in the day. At least he died of rectal cancer and I hope it hurt like hell every second. If he'd not gotten sick, Nevada probably would have had him in front of a firing squad for dragging bodies over the state line. Lawrence Singleton also deserved a worse death than he got.

And the East Area Rapist who graduated to murder in Southern California is still out there.....

And if you'd like to go full foam-at-the-mouth, so is the Zodiac Killer. Among others: look at what they're digging up in Calaveras County lately, for just one example. We have no shortage of sick bastards here

/I'm with you on Gallego, though... sometimes there is no doubt about the crime or what the rightful punishment should be

relcec:MaudlinMutantMollusk: relcec: swahnhennessy: He served his time. If you're the type that thinks anyone who's ever broken a law or pulled a stupid stunt deserves to rot, you can take comfort in knowing that his accomplices are still behind bars. That should be enough masturbation material for you to last at least the rest of the morning.

kidnapping 27 kids and stuffing them in a whole in the ground isn't a stupid stunt, ya f*cking dipshiat.

So he should be imprisoned for life at taxpayer expense, or put to death?

/are we going to allow debts to society to be paid off or not?

I really give a flip; the people of California can decide. every community in america can decide this shiat.

I care about assholes acting like kidnapping 27 kids and stuffing them in a hole in the ground* doesn't hurt anyone and that this is just a stupid stunt instead of a pretty god damn f*cking significant breach of social etiquette that could very well result in the rest of us very reasonably deciding to never let your ass out to play with normal people again.

and I already said I don't have an opinion about him being released.that should give you a clue that I'm not demanding he stay in prison for the rest of his natural life or be put to death.so go f*ck yourself for the stupid question.

*(that god only knows if anyone would have made it out of if not for sheer stupidity on their part and a little bit of serendipity)

MaudlinMutantMollusk:freetomato: I remember that case - I grew up in Sacramento so it was all over the news. If anyone deserved to fry - die painfully in the electric chair, it was Gerald Gallego - another nightmare character from back in the day. At least he died of rectal cancer and I hope it hurt like hell every second. If he'd not gotten sick, Nevada probably would have had him in front of a firing squad for dragging bodies over the state line. Lawrence Singleton also deserved a worse death than he got.

And the East Area Rapist who graduated to murder in Southern California is still out there.....

And if you'd like to go full foam-at-the-mouth, so is the Zodiac Killer. Among others: look at what they're digging up in Calaveras County lately, for just one example. We have no shortage of sick bastards here

/I'm with you on Gallego, though... sometimes there is no doubt about the crime or what the rightful punishment should be

Holy crap, I'd forgotten about Ng in Calaveras. I guess he will die of old age on "death row". As for Zodiac, my uncle was a Vallejo cop who responded to one of the crime scenes. He's haunted to this day by that case. I sent him the link that was here recently about a book being written on the case - turns out he'd been interviewed by the author - Officer Steve Italian-last-name.

freetomato:MaudlinMutantMollusk: freetomato: I remember that case - I grew up in Sacramento so it was all over the news. If anyone deserved to fry - die painfully in the electric chair, it was Gerald Gallego - another nightmare character from back in the day. At least he died of rectal cancer and I hope it hurt like hell every second. If he'd not gotten sick, Nevada probably would have had him in front of a firing squad for dragging bodies over the state line. Lawrence Singleton also deserved a worse death than he got.

And the East Area Rapist who graduated to murder in Southern California is still out there.....

And if you'd like to go full foam-at-the-mouth, so is the Zodiac Killer. Among others: look at what they're digging up in Calaveras County lately, for just one example. We have no shortage of sick bastards here

/I'm with you on Gallego, though... sometimes there is no doubt about the crime or what the rightful punishment should be

Holy crap, I'd forgotten about Ng in Calaveras. I guess he will die of old age on "death row". As for Zodiac, my uncle was a Vallejo cop who responded to one of the crime scenes. He's haunted to this day by that case. I sent him the link that was here recently about a book being written on the case - turns out he'd been interviewed by the author - Officer Steve Italian-last-name.

relcec:I care about assholes acting like kidnapping 27 kids and stuffing them in a hole in the ground* doesn't hurt anyone and that this is just a stupid stunt instead of a pretty god damn f*cking significant breach of social etiquette that could very well result in the rest of us very reasonably deciding to never let your ass out to play with normal people again.

I remember this case. The kidnappers were three 20-something sons of wealthy families who had gotten themselves into a bit of debt. When the hostages escaped before they could call in their ransom demand (the police phone lines were tied up by all of the calls from the victims' family members and the media), two of the kidnappers tried to run for it, while this guy told his parents.

common sense is an oxymoron:I remember this case. The kidnappers were three 20-something sons of wealthy families who had gotten themselves into a bit of debt. When the hostages escaped before they could call in their ransom demand (the police phone lines were tied up by all of the calls from the victims' family members and the media), two of the kidnappers tried to run for it, while this guy told his parents.

Link

This part of that site describes the psychological trauma on the children.