I think it's a fine trade for both sides. Hardly brilliant. Worley has already had some success as a starting pitcher, and projects to be a solid 3 guy. May had a rough go of it in AA, but still has a good deal of potential. If they can get two starting pitchers for a guy that is a big liability at the plate (albeit with great speed and defense), I think that's a win for the Twins.

From what I understand, Phils are now gonna try and find a vet on the cheap to be the number 4/5 starter. I think the plan with Young is to get him as a one-year fill-in and then let Asche take over in 2014.

I think it's a fine trade for both sides. Hardly brilliant. Worley has already had some success as a starting pitcher, and projects to be a solid 3 guy. May had a rough go of it in AA, but still has a good deal of potential. If they can get two starting pitchers for a guy that is a big liability at the plate (albeit with great speed and defense), I think that's a win for the Twins.

Possibly. In 5 years, we know an actual result.

I still give Phillies an edge. Worley just hit the wall last year so he may either rebound back and become solid SP or keep downward. Revere already gets better gradually despite switching league.

Are you ******* ********? First off you think Ellsbury would accept an contract for 13 mil a year?

Please don't post in this thread again if you actually believe that even the slightest bit.

I said "about". Jacoby is a $75/5 guy with his injury history. An extra $2m/y and 2 more years for a vastly superior player is nothing for that team. He might get a mil more and/or more years, but to take on Victorino (who should be a $20m/3 at best-they paid him double) to save $1-4m I'm CF if you're the Red Sox is just unjustifiable in this scenario.

I'm not against trading Jacoby for Lee either. My ire is directed at poor use of funds after they just had a massive salary dump. I usually could care less what they pay players because it really didn't affect me. There's no salary cap and they have infinite funds.

I said "about". Jacoby is a $75/5 guy with his injury history. An extra $2m/y and 2 more years for a vastly superior player is nothing for that team. He might get a mil more and/or more years, but to take on Victorino (who should be a $20m/3 at best-they paid him double) to save $1-4m I'm CF if you're the Red Sox is just unjustifiable in this scenario.

I'm not against trading Jacoby for Lee either. My ire is directed at poor use of funds after they just had a massive salary dump. I usually could care less what they pay players because it really didn't affect me. There's no salary cap and they have infinite funds.

Ellsburry is going to command more money than 75/5. He's going to get Crawford like money and he's probably not going to resign with the Sox and will not sign an extension... So you don't really have a point.