That would be if you were counting just mining. As I have stated before. This is not just mining. That will be more of a side note. Second note is that you must realize the price in which I have paid for such a rig. All I can say is you would not imagine how cheap!

With the shares that have sold. We can almost afford the second rig. For the 109btc you would be talking about. Would equate to 2.26 more rigs. But would also allow me to finish the contract with the provider of the prepaid services. Which would yield quite a good ROI.

So the ROI in which you talk about will not be the actual amount we will produce.

As for the actual math behind it. Yes you seem to be correct. I hope you realize what you wont see in the beginning will be reinvested into more ventures. Allowing us to grow and continue growing.

Especially since I have found a way to build these rigs for quite a cheap price. I have been talking to distributors all across the globe to get the best prices. Since finding the best prices will never be found in a retail environment. I decided to make a few phone calls. Now the same rigs people are spending $1200+ we will be spending $600 or less.

There are also plans to expand into many other markets. Like setting up a proper 2048 bit openvpn service. Another is web hosting/VPS services. Along with selling hardware. Not just video cards.

I have contacted PBJ, and infomred him that he must fill in his companies details on http://companies.herokuapp.com by Friday ir PBJ and all it's shares and assets will be frozen and PBJ will be delisted from GLBSE.

wow. this sounds like a huge....scam at the worst, terrible TERRIBLE TERRIBLE investment at best.

as a web developer and dabbler in IT,and current operator of 4 GH/s of mining rigs,i feel i'm as knowledgeable as anyone to contribute to this discussion.

first of all,every one of your posts is hopelessly optimistic and too quick to refute any negative claim,or conversely respond with thanks to any positive encouragement.that sends an immediate red flag to me.

second, bitcoin mining rigs CANNOT simultaneously host websites and offer VPN services and the like.your computers' resources will be strained as it is, especially if you're overclocking and trying to squeeze the best performance out of your videocards.

... so are you suggesting that shareholders will earn a return of the entire companies profits?so let's just call it what it is, as your mining rigs will probably not turn as much of a profit as you expect. investors would primarily first and foremost be helping to fund the development of a web hosting / vpn offering services firm,that is admittedly going to have help by his family (which also seems a little sketchy, unprofessional, to me. especially since you cited your family as 'cheap labor'),and which are a dime-a-dozen at the moment. what sets you apart? your lucrative NDA contracts with suppliers and such? please. sounds ridiculous.

my concern is that, you're loosely tying this to bitcoin mining, to help raise capital to reduce the risk of starting your company with your family.and i say 'loosely' in the worst sense of the word.you are posting this to the "Newbies" forum, preying on people who are also new to the bitcoin concept.you lack a concise business contract and business plan. and...let's be honest, since your company is only loosely based on bitcoin mining,when you inevitably (or perhaps this is your plan all along) determine that to be unprofitable or not worth it,since you were only 'loosely' tied to this makeshift btc run stock exchange,you will be inclined to 'take the money and run' so to speak.... and since the shares are so low in value anyway, no one will bother to sue you for recompensation.... not that a lawsuit like that would probably even stand any merit anyways, considering it is bitcoin after all.

whatever, it's just a typical grift.

obvious troll, is obvious. stop donating money to him. jesus.

...also, it would not surprise me if the poster is 14, operating all this as a scam, cleverly choosing the ticker PBJ because it coincides with peanut butter and jelly,(thus further adding insult to the fact that none of your 'investments' will never be returned).hell, i did worse when i was 14. and who names their kid pandora? maybe you enjoyed Avatar just a little too much. give me a break.

wow. this sounds like a huge....scam at the worst, terrible TERRIBLE TERRIBLE investment at best.

as a web developer and dabbler in IT,and current operator of 4 GH/s of mining rigs,i feel i'm as knowledgeable as anyone to contribute to this discussion.

first of all,every one of your posts is hopelessly optimistic and too quick to refute any negative claim,or conversely respond with thanks to any positive encouragement.that sends an immediate red flag to me.

second, bitcoin mining rigs CANNOT simultaneously host websites and offer VPN services and the like.your computers' resources will be strained as it is, especially if you're overclocking and trying to squeeze the best performance out of your videocards.

... so are you suggesting that shareholders will earn a return of the entire companies profits?so let's just call it what it is, as your mining rigs will probably not turn as much of a profit as you expect. investors would primarily first and foremost be helping to fund the development of a web hosting / vpn offering services firm,that is admittedly going to have help by his family (which also seems a little sketchy, unprofessional, to me. especially since you cited your family as 'cheap labor'),and which are a dime-a-dozen at the moment. what sets you apart? your lucrative NDA contracts with suppliers and such? please. sounds ridiculous.

my concern is that, you're loosely tying this to bitcoin mining, to help raise capital to reduce the risk of starting your company with your family.and i say 'loosely' in the worst sense of the word.you are posting this to the "Newbies" forum, preying on people who are also new to the bitcoin concept.you lack a concise business contract and business plan. and...let's be honest, since your company is only loosely based on bitcoin mining,when you inevitably (or perhaps this is your plan all along) determine that to be unprofitable or not worth it,since you were only 'loosely' tied to this makeshift btc run stock exchange,you will be inclined to 'take the money and run' so to speak.... and since the shares are so low in value anyway, no one will bother to sue you for recompensation.... not that a lawsuit like that would probably even stand any merit anyways, considering it is bitcoin after all.

whatever, it's just a typical grift.

obvious troll, is obvious. stop donating money to him. jesus.

...also, it would not surprise me if the poster is 14, operating all this as a scam, cleverly choosing the ticker PBJ because it coincides with peanut butter and jelly,(thus further adding insult to the fact that none of your 'investments' will never be returned).hell, i did worse when i was 14. and who names their kid pandora? maybe you enjoyed Avatar just a little too much. give me a break.

First thing I would like to point out to you. Mining is NOT the base of this company. Second thing is that I do not plan on hosting services from a rig. This is just a silly concept. I do not even know how you came to conclude this.Third is the fact we will also be in retail and many other areas of the market. We do not plan on just mining or just services or just retail etc. The point is to expand and constantly grow. Yes my family is involved. In minor ways. Those small things they help with will give me the little bits of free time I need to get projects done. Also I do not speak Mandarin yet my wife does. So she can help field phone calls. I call it cheap labor. As they do not want to be paid. They just want to be there for me. What sets me apart is my passion. My knowledge. My ability to grow. The fact that I not close minded.Th reason this is in the newbies section has been answered a few posts back. It is mainly the fact that I started in the newbies section and locked here. The original investors came to notice recognize this as the place to come for more information. Yes I still need to work on the contract a bit and the business plan. Then again GLBSE still needs a little bit more work as well. I plan on working it out over a little bit of time. I am not ashamed nor worried about the fact that these need work. I know and understand this.

My age is 30 if that really matters.

PBJ has a different meaning to me. I chose it for the initials of my child, my wife, and bitcoins. The three things I love.

As for the comment about my daughters name! You have NO right to say what I can name my child. My child is over 3 years old. She is before the current scheme of naming everything Pandora. This I take as a personal insult.

Do you even know the story behind Pandora?

As for the reasons I say thank you at the bottom of my posts. One reason is not to be rude. Second reason is I am thanking people for taking the time out of their lives to come and read a post. As people do not need to be here nor do they need to read my thread/posts.

As for calling me a troll.

It appears as if you are the troll. Trying to get me angry. Trying to bash the business. Trying to make yourself look bigger than you really are.

wow. this sounds like a huge....scam at the worst, terrible TERRIBLE TERRIBLE investment at best.

as a web developer and dabbler in IT,and current operator of 4 GH/s of mining rigs,i feel i'm as knowledgeable as anyone to contribute to this discussion.

first of all,every one of your posts is hopelessly optimistic and too quick to refute any negative claim,or conversely respond with thanks to any positive encouragement.that sends an immediate red flag to me.

second, bitcoin mining rigs CANNOT simultaneously host websites and offer VPN services and the like.your computers' resources will be strained as it is, especially if you're overclocking and trying to squeeze the best performance out of your videocards.

... so are you suggesting that shareholders will earn a return of the entire companies profits?so let's just call it what it is, as your mining rigs will probably not turn as much of a profit as you expect. investors would primarily first and foremost be helping to fund the development of a web hosting / vpn offering services firm,that is admittedly going to have help by his family (which also seems a little sketchy, unprofessional, to me. especially since you cited your family as 'cheap labor'),and which are a dime-a-dozen at the moment. what sets you apart? your lucrative NDA contracts with suppliers and such? please. sounds ridiculous.

my concern is that, you're loosely tying this to bitcoin mining, to help raise capital to reduce the risk of starting your company with your family.and i say 'loosely' in the worst sense of the word.you are posting this to the "Newbies" forum, preying on people who are also new to the bitcoin concept.you lack a concise business contract and business plan. and...let's be honest, since your company is only loosely based on bitcoin mining,when you inevitably (or perhaps this is your plan all along) determine that to be unprofitable or not worth it,since you were only 'loosely' tied to this makeshift btc run stock exchange,you will be inclined to 'take the money and run' so to speak.... and since the shares are so low in value anyway, no one will bother to sue you for recompensation.... not that a lawsuit like that would probably even stand any merit anyways, considering it is bitcoin after all.

whatever, it's just a typical grift.

obvious troll, is obvious. stop donating money to him. jesus.

...also, it would not surprise me if the poster is 14, operating all this as a scam, cleverly choosing the ticker PBJ because it coincides with peanut butter and jelly,(thus further adding insult to the fact that none of your 'investments' will never be returned).hell, i did worse when i was 14. and who names their kid pandora? maybe you enjoyed Avatar just a little too much. give me a break.

Yes 80+ hours a week with a family. Yes no website. I am not a web developer. This is why I am looking to hire one. If you wonder what I do. I handle the contracts, I handle pretty much all the paper work. As I figure the rest of the family should not have access to it. I handle coordinating meetings with contractors and distributors. I also go to seminars and a few shows. Plus quite a bit more.

I am sorry I am not a superb web developer. I am sorry that their is a lot more to do with a business than just running a website. I am sorry I try to find the best distributors for the money.

I hope you do realize there is a lot more to operating and running a business than set and forget. A lot more than just a website.

Thank you.

To all shareholders.

Once I am done with here. I can continue with the search for a web developer.

I am sorry I lost my composure here. This is not normally me. Nor would I normally let someone get under my skin this much. I am truly sorry for this.

I just can not sit by while someone bashes the business let alone making it personal.

80+ hours a week, with a wife and child to take care of?..and still no website to speak of?...bwahaha. yeah right. this is too easy.

my talents are required elsewhere.

Just let this go PBJ. Its obvious who the troll here is. He's just gotten out of his noob status with this thread alone -_- You've got my support. I have full faith in your sincerity & can sense your determination to make your dream a reality. 10 more btc coming your way in return for shares. I intend to become a big part of this operation. So, don't even continue to entertain this clown anymore... Best of wishes to you and your family PBJ. I can tell the future holds great things for all of us