Tuesday, January 17, 2012

A bit more reality

It is not just real trucks that we are trying to have in our game, we would love to make our Euro Truck Simulator 2 world filled with as much real stuff as possible. This is a long term effort that may not be fully realized with the initial release of ETS2, but we will be pursuing it over time. For now, here is a practical example of this push, something that truck drivers stopping to take fuel while driving across Czech Republic might encounter...

The atmosphere was cool hein, but I think the texture is still simple, very artificial looking picture of those angles.

And we want videos blog with trucks with 6x2 and 6x4 chassis, traveling in Europe, because you only travel with 4x2 tractors.

And if you can to change that part, equip the truck to put a garage in the background image to appear more realistic, like some places there tires piled there, tool boxes, poster on the wall with pictures of trucks equipped an entire support to stay like a real shop. And another good job for you.

SCS software it's good that you care about how real you want the game world to be but why not ask us what we would like to see in game play or show us some gameplay screenshots or video's instead of just picture's like this and trucks please thank you scs software.

Another real company, perfect! Good job. :-) I only hope this time vehicles will drive through gas stations (as in 18WoS) - frankly, nothing adds more reality to stations as some (at least minimal) traffic.

I'm sorry, but you're a complete idiot. They spent lots of time to redo the trucks and maps etc. I don't care about petrol stations because WE DON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME THERE PUMPING GAS. What an incompetent fool.

Is the Euro Truck Simulator gotta have walk-in petrol station? :-) I was hoping and expecting SCS to let us player walk in the petrol station to pay for the fuel, and buy a drink to drink while driving if this is possible to make it more reality :-D

Guys, are you reading text? This entry is not about old or new gas stations, but about real companies in the game. SCS showed us example on gas station, they evidently made contract with Čepro (which is biggest network of gas stations in the Czech Republic) - and maybe they trying to make deal with other companies. I think it's perfect!

Yes, that new gas station from June is much, much better, but this entry is not about it. :-)

Looks very nice, but I wouldn't mind if the gas stations are fictional companies. Traffic in the gas station/parking area and maybe a few pedestrians walking around would bring a lot more realism. In busy gas stations you would have to wait for your turn to refill. Maybe there could be a carage door open and you could see a car inside and a mechanic fixing it. At docking bays you could see workers carrying boxes (maybe one of the carage doors would be open and you could see inside) and other trucks enter/leave the yard. Someone could be cleaning the streets with a broom and workers walking around those road works you've shown us. All these kind of little things would make the world feel alive and exciting, not boring and desolate.

You have done great job already and this is not meant to be taken as criticizing your work. Just giving out my thoughts. Keep up the good work!

The game looks fantastic, but I have some ideas that, in my opinion, will make the game even better. Just hear me out. UPDATED!

1. Separate button for high/low beam. You could press L to switch the lights on and K for high beam and when you press K again the lights remain on and only if you press L again the lights turn off.ALSO: check these pictures to better understand the difference between high and low beam. Pic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2005_winter_road_dipped_beam.jpg and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2005_winter_road_full_beam.jpg

2. Separate button for fast/slow windscreen wipers.

3. Some trailers have flaps under taillights, which should move according to the trucks braking or accelerating. Pic: http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr255/Aditzu/147.jpg

4. Cables that connect the truck with the trailer.

5. Adaptive cruise control. For example, you reach 85 km/h press C for cruise control and the truck would travel at that speed. But let's say you want to accelerate to 89 km/h and instead of accelerating again and try to reach that speed you press C and up arrow key that will increment the truck speed by let's say 1 km/h until you reach your desired speed.

6. When driving with the mouse, the game should let you control the truck with W,A,S,D at the same time because the mouse driving system is a little buggy and sometimes you crash because the game wouldn't respond to the mouse moving. Please, both W,A,S,D buttons and mouse at the same time.

7. Interior buttons should only light up if you turn the lights up.

8. For some low-end computer users, there should be a system which allows which mirror to display. For example, maybe someone thinks they don't need the frontal mirror and if they want to turn it off so the game won't lag, they would have this possibility, just like turning interior mirrors off in GTS.

9. People get bored driving on highways. Why not have more national roads, with only one lane for each direction? Plus the scenery is much more beautiful when driving through the country side.

10. You showed us a video with custom name plates. Why not custom license plates?

11. You showed us the different license plates from each country. The trucks and trailers should have this system too, because if I drive a flatbed trailer with ELKR2006 license plate, there would be no way I could find in traffic the same license plate.

12. Could you implement BDF's?

13. When getting off a secondary road and enter a main road, the AI should be aware the fact you need to take wider turns. Pic:http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr255/Aditzu/untitled-4.jpg

14. On roads with thight turns, like the ones in this video (at 1:30) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PizSyaeCAmY make the roads wider so you can get past them with a wide truck.

15. Traffic density slider, like in 18WoS AA.

16. When you have enough money to build your own company and hire drivers and buy trucks for them, it would be nice if you could encounter them on the road, just like in 18WoS AA and not only one, but 2 or 3 or how many of them they are. Would be nice to see my truck drivers that I hired for my company in action, so please, consider this suggestion.

17. The ability to raise and lower the suspension of trucks, like in this video (at 4:45) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZp8fjjZq5k. Also check some features of the truck in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugXiVmYs6IQ&feature=related. It will give you a better picture of what I'm trying to tell you.

18. The ability to raise and lower the lift axle in 6x2 trucks like this one: http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr255/Aditzu/Rossetts_Commercials_Mercedes-Benz_Actros_cab_GX58_HRR.jpg

19. The ability to refill the AdBlue tank.

20. Truck wash.

21. Visible damage.

22. Fill the cities with pedestrians, that cross streets and walk on the sidewalk.

23. Increase the braking power on trucks. Check this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSQSueFrxzI&feature=related. Also, the sound effects of the truck braking would be a nice touch.

24. Custom trucks should appear in traffic. A truck that has a paintjob, or roof lights or is a 6x2/6x4. This will help bring diversity in the truck world.

25. On B and C class the interior has not the same height as A class interior, so please fix this. Also the interior height is not the same. Pic: http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr255/Aditzu/lalala2.jpg

26. The extra lights you can equip the truck as an accesory should have an extra button for turning them ON or OFF.

27. VERY simple BDF system: just like you choose the truck to be 6x2/6x4 you choose it to be a BDF. Also, a menu to let you choose the body type for BDF trucks. Pic: http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr255/Aditzu/untitled-6.jpg It is only an example, other trucks and body types can appear.

28. A system that allows in-game development of trailer skins would be an interesting approach at stylising your truck company. And also regarding to point 16, it would be nice to see my hired truck drivers on the road hauling the custom made trailers.

I dont understand why everyone is whining the fuelstops are in fact better than ets1 and are the same config as ukts and gts witch was better than all there other games so.... why complain its the best fuelstop in the world on a game

Aditzu .. no offence bro .. but this is just a game! If you want everything to be like a real truck just get C+E categories and get a real truck! .. You all are asking for realy lots of things.. SCS needs to done the basics of the game .. then with paches or w/e they choose they'll do their best to improove it >.> ..

That's why I'm posting, to help improve the game. These are things that miss out from the game and are necessary to help build the simulation. That's why it's called simulator, to simulate truck driving. no offence

I know but I've been working with C++ buildig program and a lots others.. It's not as easy as every one think .. SCS just show us what they done.. not how they did it .. be more easy on them. It's HARD!

I know it's hard, but these things are mandatory in order to achieve a realistic simulation. And it's not just a game, it's a simulation! Fancy graphics won't balance the lack of features in the game. SCS needs to concentrate on the physics of the game. Thanks for reading.

OK .. but as SCS sayed, they want to make game that "kids" can play too .. and I can't see how're they gonna play if it's hard for them even to understand what to do.... But I agree the physics of the truck and his behaviour was a bit poor .. but in the last video about the Actros it was going on 8 gear with 50km/h and it was preatty fine..

so i am 15 (in march 16)and you think that the most gamer are over 18? that's wrong! the game should not so be difficult like flight simulator or OMSI. the ets 2 is realistic enough for the money you can buy. just compare those shity games from astragon with ETS 2 -.-'.and there are more children under 18 who plays cod and battlefield than +18 in the server. around 70% of the gamer are under 18. i see much more children in gamestop buying their games and adults and @Aditzu: it is just a game ;) and it cost just 25 euro and for that money you have a great game with new features(ETS 2). a simulator will never be so realistic like a real live. it's better to get less realistic features then more bugs and glitches.

Amazing guys,... just some opinion about this. Will it be some traffic in those "service areas"? I have ever seen in a simulator any car going into a fuel station and stoping for (for example) 10 seconds. It would be great, just as in Checkings of Highways in 18 WOS. We just need more traffic there. Hope to think about that.

And just my own opinion. It would be great if I could buy a Flat "unloaded" Container trailer, get into a sea port or something and load it with a container. Then go with it as a normal load into other place or port... and after unloading, search for a new container with my flat unloaded trailer again. Here in Spain is very usual to work like Ive said, and I think it would be very realistic. Hope to understand my english XD.

Congrats for all your work done jet, we all know all those skin things can be easily modded after the release. Go on guys.

A system that allows in-game development of trailer skins would be an interesting approach at stylising your truck company. And also regarding to point 16, it would be nice to see my hired truck drivers on the road hauling the custom made trailers.

Thats a good point :) Not every delivery has to delivered into city.... There should be ability to deliver to Road works..., Petrol stations and some other villages and some other places away from cities...

I have to tell you... that once I saw a truck stop at a gas station to unload.

And even some rigid trucks drive into small streets to deliver stuff, for example: building materials for people that might need to build something. What I'm saying is that it doesn't need to be a real depot even.

Turning the wheel about 1mm in either direction can make it veer as though you've turned it about half way, and if you slow down quickly, the wheels lock and the steering makes you slide awkwardly, although the trailer doesn't jackknife

Nope, not everyone. I have GTA and Mafia and other games where it make sense to get off the vehicle, but why on earth I should walk on the street in strictly truck driving (and maybe company leading) game?

So at least everyone - 1, but I think there's more people who don't want features like this one.

Yeah, I would like to too... you know... look around the exterior of the truck... since I got my steering wheel I've been around the interior of the truck and you know... I would like to see what it would look like form an individual's point of view... so i would love to get out and walk around.

Its Easy... You buy what ever trailer you want and haul what ever load you can with that trailer... And if it is some other kind of trailer then you would have to buy another one... Basically the same... Other company trailers would still be there if you dont want to buy your own trailer then you could do the same thing as with other games ( whitch is not soo exiting... i think)You could buy your own trailers and select them at garage and then go to company and select what ever load what is available and haul it But when you unload your trailer would not dissapear or stay in doc But you could drive away with your empty trailer... So you could go for another load with the same trailer which you bought... So you would not have to switch trailers after every delivery... (Similar to what was in 18WOS Haulin if someone remembers)So PLZ SCS put that system to ETS2! :)

Can you please give a release date estimate? I am anxious to play the game. Anyway, I do love the way you guys are making this game, it's very realistic. The people who are criticizing the gas stations are ridiculous, you guys pour your hearts and souls into this game, but of course they don't appreciate that.

Great work, but anyway just gotta be more place spotts to park the truck not only one. And if will be some moving traffic in gas stations will be great...and hopefully larger gas stations not like in ETS, one place... gotta be more places to park the truck and some places without gas, just place to park for sleep. By the way, SCS Team keep it that way, amazing work and hopefully will be also Slovenia and Hungary in map. Vojko from Slovenia

WANT MORE PLACES ON GAS STATIONS, NOT ONLY ONE, AND LARGER PARKING TO CHOOSE THE SPOT... IF IT WILL BE GAS STATION LIKE IN ETS IS KINDA BORING, ONE SPOT AND THATS IT, AND NO MOVING ACTION ON GAS..Z.Z.Z. WILL BE GREAT IF YOU DO THAT: PARK THE TRUCK IN GAS, GETTING OUT TO FILL THE TANK AND GO TO THE CLEARK IN THE COUNTER AND PAY FOR GAS, GOING BACK TO TRUCK AND PARK IT ON SPOT, WITCH IS MORE THAN ONE SPOT. SCS DO THAT AND YOU NAIL IT AT LARGE ;) EXPECTING THE RELEASE DATE THERE IN THE SUMMER AND IF YOU WILL DO THAT GAME TO LISTENIG MP3 MUSIC IN TRUCK. THAT'S ALL. YOU ROCK SCS TEAM BTW. AMAZING WORK YOU GOT SO FAR, REALLY. C'YA AND KEEP THE HARD WORK ON THE GAME.BY: ROBERT,HUNGARY.

Yes, you got that right... Most truckers in EU have own trailers. And more place spots on gas stations will be great SCS. Make more places and also make the placing spots without gases, cuz in europe is many many places to stop and rest with picnic tables and i see it through whole europe.

Heyy, nice is that link: tovornjak.net/gallery/8Thats our site: htdt.xooit.com/index.phpWe're also community in hungary and also support you and HOPEFULLY THE SCS SOFTWARE TEAM ADD TO MAP HUNGARY AND SLOVENIA. AND THE PLATES FOR TRUCKS HOPE WILL BE (H) AND (SLO) IN THE FRONT OF PLATES. SCS Team please read that request. I hope. SCS Team you ROCKS :)

This game is going to be amazing! There will be clutch and gears because they had it in t&t which was the euro truck simulator 2 engine so dont worry and their are different petrol stations if you go back to previous posts they showed us some images!! This game will be the best trucking simulator by far! Until scs bring out another one ;)

If you want further paches with SCS Pro Made improovements and maybe ETS3/ BUY IT! .. That's what I'm gonna do.. becouse SCS deserv it .. they put a lot effort in this game .. and ofc sharing progress and asking customers for things!.. Who els did it ?!

Just buy the game in the store, you dumb pirate-dumber. Thats a huge loss for SCS if you pirating the game, DON'T. I'll buy if i must have to pay with my whole sallary... or just ask me i'll buy you a game just don't pirat the game. That's simple quite a lot, you schmuck. I'll buy it for you and period.

Learn to think,stupid.Piracy is a good thing but if you dont support a nice game by buying it,the company can not affort to go on ETS 3 etc.It means fucking asshole that with fucking stupids like you,we would play pacman forever in 2d.Support the GOOD games by buing them and the shity games DONT support.Help the future be better!

Hello, I have mentioned some time ago here on the blog, but for what I noticed, there was no evolution. You guys are only worrying about the graphics of the game, and are forgetting the main interactivity. Worth of fuel a post again if I see other trucks not moving too filling. The system mounting a carrier, will be visualized where our trucks are traveling? will have a way to save desired position inside the cab? need to have movement in the air, where we had to wait for a truck load after

our turn. or see other trucks in other loading bays. Will have people walking the streets? The truck should have some wear as you go. Please do not launch the game without these modifications. Do not rush, listen to the idea of his fans and will be a success.

AI, as we did in the 18 Wheels to fit in the vehicle resting place I would cut to the chase ... To do this, the vehicle stops to fix the AI bug, maybe play to stop the vehicle. And the AI car's headlamps, taillamps Please improve the quality of the ... LED lamps as part of creating a company, so should express such a view.

The game looks fantastic, but I have some ideas that, in my opinion, will make the game even better. Just hear me out. UPDATED!

1. Separate button for high/low beam. You could press L to switch the lights on and K for high beam and when you press K again the lights remain on and only if you press L again the lights turn off.ALSO: check these pictures to better understand the difference between high and low beam. Pic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2005_winter_road_dipped_beam.jpg and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2005_winter_road_full_beam.jpg

2. Separate button for fast/slow windscreen wipers.

3. Some trailers have flaps under taillights, which should move according to the trucks braking or accelerating. Pic: http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr255/Aditzu/147.jpg

4. Cables that connect the truck with the trailer.

5. Adaptive cruise control. For example, you reach 85 km/h press C for cruise control and the truck would travel at that speed. But let's say you want to accelerate to 89 km/h and instead of accelerating again and try to reach that speed you press C and up arrow key that will increment the truck speed by let's say 1 km/h until you reach your desired speed.

6. When driving with the mouse, the game should let you control the truck with W,A,S,D at the same time because the mouse driving system is a little buggy and sometimes you crash because the game wouldn't respond to the mouse moving. Please, both W,A,S,D buttons and mouse at the same time.

7. Interior buttons should only light up if you turn the lights up.

8. For some low-end computer users, there should be a system which allows which mirror to display. For example, maybe someone thinks they don't need the frontal mirror and if they want to turn it off so the game won't lag, they would have this possibility, just like turning interior mirrors off in GTS.

9. People get bored driving on highways. Why not have more national roads, with only one lane for each direction? Plus the scenery is much more beautiful when driving through the country side.

10. You showed us a video with custom name plates. Why not custom license plates?

11. You showed us the different license plates from each country. The trucks and trailers should have this system too, because if I drive a flatbed trailer with ELKR2006 license plate, there would be no way I could find in traffic the same license plate.

12. Could you implement BDF's?

13. When getting off a secondary road and enter a main road, the AI should be aware the fact you need to take wider turns. Pic:http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr255/Aditzu/untitled-4.jpg

14. On roads with thight turns, like the ones in this video (at 1:30) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PizSyaeCAmY make the roads wider so you can get past them with a wide truck.

15. Traffic density slider, like in 18WoS AA.

16. When you have enough money to build your own company and hire drivers and buy trucks for them, it would be nice if you could encounter them on the road, just like in 18WoS AA and not only one, but 2 or 3 or how many of them they are. Would be nice to see my truck drivers that I hired for my company in action, so please, consider this suggestion.

17. The ability to raise and lower the suspension of trucks, like in this video (at 4:45) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZp8fjjZq5k. Also check some features of the truck in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugXiVmYs6IQ&feature=related. It will give you a better picture of what I'm trying to tell you.

18. The ability to raise and lower the lift axle in 6x2 trucks like this one: http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr255/Aditzu/Rossetts_Commercials_Mercedes-Benz_Actros_cab_GX58_HRR.jpg

19. The ability to refill the AdBlue tank.

20. Truck wash.

21. Visible damage.

22. Fill the cities with pedestrians, that cross streets and walk on the sidewalk.

23. Increase the braking power on trucks. Check this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSQSueFrxzI&feature=related. Also, the sound effects of the truck braking would be a nice touch.

24. Custom trucks should appear in traffic. A truck that has a paintjob, or roof lights or is a 6x2/6x4. This will help bring diversity in the truck world.

25. On B and C class the interior has not the same height as A class interior, so please fix this. Also the interior height is not the same. Pic: http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr255/Aditzu/lalala2.jpg

26. The extra lights you can equip the truck as an accesory should have an extra button for turning them ON or OFF.

27. VERY simple BDF system: just like you choose the truck to be 6x2/6x4 you choose it to be a BDF. Also, a menu to let you choose the body type for BDF trucks. Pic: http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr255/Aditzu/untitled-6.jpg It is only an example, other trucks and body types can appear.

28. A system that allows in-game development of trailer skins would be an interesting approach at stylising your truck company. And also regarding to point 16, it would be nice to see my hired truck drivers on the road hauling the custom made trailers.

Not pirating the game, schmucks. Just buy it. Let the SCS team know how hard is to create hard playing game such is like ETS 2. You want the game just buy it or i'll make it easily i'll buy it for you, schmuck.

Some shunting jobs would be good move afew trailers around in a yard or to other companys as wel as normal containers you should have cool boxes and a company logo for your trucks also let me see my trucks on the road hope you read these posts.....many thanks..

Visually the game will look very nice,but what about the gameplay,physics improvements,sound, so far I have not seen much.Maybe SCS have no possibly to enough improve the game(only visually,makeup), or they just want to surprise us...I hope.

@ Annoymous Jan 18, 2012 12:45 pmApart from Denby and Stan Robinsons forray into A and B doubles since when have we had twin trailers in the UK? nearest i've seen is a fairground artic towing a caravan too. Doesn't really count as Twin trailers in the popular sense though does it. Be interesting to see a picture of this rig you claim to used to drive regularly in the UK.

game is worth of every cent. excellent and good job SCS Team. Keep the hard working on the game and when it got released out in stores i'll buy it for all my friends (for all 20 friends) this great ETS 2 game. Thanks a lot SCS and i hope you add mp3 player on radio and fm stations on radio too :) Greetings from Alex & Greg(SLO).

On the order of realism:Will we ever see our employees' trucks on the road, or will they be only in the management screens as before? I think it'd be really cool to actually see the drivers that are working for us.

I'm afraid that the game will be the same as ETS,GTS without improved gameplay,only with more fancy graphics and a few unnecessary details,a same concept as in the 18WoS series.Should make more pressure on developers to finally make a real truck simulation,and not one more arcade game for small kids.

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To all those who said I'm exaggerating about the 28 points list of suggestions: ever played GTA:SA? Have you ever got into one of the trucks, connected a trailer to it and drove a bit? Is there a difference between GTA:SA and GTS? Sure, GTA:SA doesn't have an interior view, but you can rollover with the truck, lose control of the trailer, pop a tyre, drive doubles (even roadtrains) and even multiplayer. Not to mention the purpose of GTA:SA is not to be a truck driver and yet it does a better job at it than GTS. THAT's why we need a better simulation. Hope you will understand this and SCS as well and point their development work toward gameplay and features, rather than gameplay.

Yeah... And with GTA:SA you can go offroad without hitting invisible walls...

Yeah... also with these truck simulations from SCS, you can't jackknife trucks.... even on icey roads.

GTA:SA was a fun game to play... but I'm not sure because if you hitch one of those err... pick up trucks onto one and another, you can actually go flying and loose control of the road train.

But having said that... GTA:SA's multiplayer (and mods) was actually created by the community... NOT by the developers.

Having said that... GTA:SA had modifications for their vehicles... And it took SCS software this long to actually begin to grasp the concept of what GTA:SA has already accomplished. There is a lot to expand on in this region that's all I can tell you... No offence intended of course.

To all those who said I'm exaggerating about the 28 points list of suggestions: ever played GTA:SA? Have you ever got into one of the trucks, connected a trailer to it and drove a bit? Is there a difference between GTA:SA and GTS? Sure, GTA:SA doesn't have an interior view, but you can rollover with the truck, lose control of the trailer, pop a tyre, drive doubles (even roadtrains) and even multiplayer. Not to mention the purpose of GTA:SA is not to be a truck driver and yet it does a better job at it than GTS. THAT's why we need a better simulation. Hope you will understand this and SCS as well and point their development work toward gameplay and features, rather than graphics.

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