The panel on Up With Chris Hayes this Saturday of Sam Seder, Bob Herbert, Josh Barro and Victoria Defrancesco Soto had a discussion on the growing wealth inequality and lack up social mobility which are being made worse by things like Republicans wanting to cut a billion dollars in food assistance for the poor in their proposed Farm Bill.

Bob Herbert made a really great point late into the first clip when they were discussing the fact that SNAP, which used to be called food stamps, is subsidizing corporations that don't want to pay a living wage and that we ought to be raising the minimum wage among other things to remedy that. I think that's a point that is not mentioned nearly often enough when we see the likes of Paul Ryan demagoguing the needed expansion of the program. A good deal of those people using the program to keep from starving are not unemployed, but are the working poor.

More great discussion on the Romney's trying to rewrite the fact that they inherited great wealth instead of admitting they were born with huge advantages that most Americans are never going to be lucky enough to have below the fold.

And here's the last part of their discussion which starts out with Rep. Paul Ryan pretending we don't have a problem in America with a lack up upward mobility, despite the fact that the United States has fallen well behind other industrialized nations in that category and on how hard it is right now for anyone who was born into poverty to even make it into the middle class, much less become rich.

You know, any general in any good tactics game will always want to make sure that their losses are minimal. That's probably why in some chess games, people count the amount of pieces left after a stalemate on either side.