agree about robert yet he doesn't have that dynamic personality when puboic speaking/lecturing to hold an audience in awe for long time as i found his presentation style boring along with grant's also. now doug has a better more dynamic personality when public speaking/lecturing than does robert and grant.john kohler gives me a big headache whenever i hear him on youtube lol :) you just have to have ''''thaaaaat personality'''' to be able to capture your audience and hold them for long time and make them believers of your message. look at david wolfe for instance....he naturally has ''''thhhhaaaat personality/knack'''' for public speacking/lecturing and has strong life long forever following unlike any body else despite all the criticism at him for being a charlatan. same with all the big religious leaders also in similar fashion. they just know how to hit/push/zero in on that so-called naive vulnerable soft spot in people.