I do believe Tyrion tried to send Shae away. If I remember, he gave her a necklace and told her she could buy a whole ship for it... and she said "why would I need a ship?" and threw it right back into his face.

During this book it was mostly Tryion being madly in love with Shae. I think they were both back at the castle then, and he often frequent whore houses to throw the Queen off of his affair with Shae. Also Shae was made a maid of some noble lady.. Forgot her name, but this was to protect her from Ceresi(Queen name, can't recall all character names.)

Storm of Swords Read at your risk of being spoiled.

Within the book she became Sansa's maid(who Tryion was force to marry for political reasons.) The marriage with Sansa didn't seem to bother Shae, which made him uncomfortable. To keep Ceresi(is that the Queen's name) from discovering Shae's identity or having her expect any thing regarding Shae, he proposes a marriage deal for her(I believe it was.) Unfortunately before he could finalize the deal he was apprehended for the murder of Joffery. Shae testify against Tryion for another marriage deal with a knight that Ceresi had promised her.

Edit: At the rate they are going they will be on Dance of Dragons pretty soon and the writer still hasn't published the next book.

I pay no attention to the series much. In the series they killed the Mountain off or so they claimed in the first season after showing his head to the king. (Pretty sure that happened.) So how exactly is he going to fight when he was proclaimed dead?

Which never happened in the books. The shows seemed to be juggling characters or holding out on characters. I know they can't cast everyone, but still.

I pay no attention to the series much. In the series they killed the Mountain off or so they claimed in the first season after showing his head to the king. (Pretty sure that happened.) So how exactly is he going to fight when he was proclaimed dead?

I can't recall this at all actually... Gregor appeared regularly (albeit often in the background) during season 2 and has been mentioned as being alive (notably during reports on the Battle of Stone Mill) in Season 3.

During Season 1 a group was sent to hunt Gregor (as in the books) but were in turn reported to have been defeated and Lord Beric killed (as in the books).

I don't think either of them are dead. That crazy mad scientist guy (working for Cersei, or was at first) has some zombie frankenstein that matches the size of the Mountain himself.

The hound is presumed dead, someone found his helmet and Arya left him dying of a fever. But I think he was rescued by that small monk (temple?) on that island. And he is just reformed, soul at ease. At least that is what I understood, since the hound's war horse is stabled there and the "new" monk is the only man capable of subduing it, something only the Houng could do.

I pay no attention to the series much. In the series they killed the Mountain off or so they claimed in the first season after showing his head to the king. (Pretty sure that happened.) So how exactly is he going to fight when he was proclaimed dead?

Which never happened in the books. The shows seemed to be juggling characters or holding out on characters. I know they can't cast everyone, but still.

Ned commanded Lord Beric Dondarrion to go out and bring Ser Gregor to justice after evidence came to light that he was burning and pillaging and looting peasants' fields. Beric is killed by the Mountain. The next time you see him is coming up in the next episode or two.

Ned commanded Lord Beric Dondarrion to go out and bring Ser Gregor to justice after evidence came to light that he was burning and pillaging and looting peasants' fields. Beric is killed by the Mountain. The next time you see him is coming up in the next episode or two.

Was it? Bad memory, but then again perhaps the recast also threw me off since someone noted the dude changed to another actor. >.> So I was looking for the first actor and didn't see him.

I don't think either of them are dead. That crazy mad scientist guy (working for Cersei, or was at first) has some zombie frankenstein that matches the size of the Mountain himself.

The hound is presumed dead, someone found his helmet and Arya left him dying of a fever. But I think he was rescued by that small monk (temple?) on that island. And he is just reformed, soul at ease. At least that is what I understood, since the hound's war horse is stabled there and the "new" monk is the only man capable of subduing it, something only the Houng could do.

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There is also a part where the woman visiting, forgot the knight female's name, she noted that the 'priest' was a large and muscular man. I can't recall if any noted wounds were also present during that interaction. The priest states that he buried the Hound, that the man pretending to be the Hound wasn't him. The large black horse as you recall was there, but yea the Hound could only control him.

There is also a part where the woman visiting, forgot the knight female's name, she noted that the 'priest' was a large and muscular man. I can't recall if any noted wounds were also present during that interaction. The priest states that he buried the Hound, that the man pretending to be the Hound wasn't him. The large black horse as you recall was there, but yea the Hound could only control him.

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Brienne of Tarth.

Sandor hated himself, deeply. He was self-destructive and had a hell of a death wish. For the priest to "bury the Hound", I always assumed was Sandor speaking metaphorically, burying his past and reinventing himself where he could be if not happy then at peace.

Not sure I liked the scene between Jaime and Cersei last night. I can't figure out why they changed it to rape when in the books she mildly protested in the beginning then wanted it and was encouraging him. Kind of left a sour taste.

Not sure I liked the scene between Jaime and Cersei last night. I can't figure out why they changed it to rape when in the books she mildly protested in the beginning then wanted it and was encouraging him. Kind of left a sour taste.

Not sure I liked the scene between Jaime and Cersei last night. I can't figure out why they changed it to rape when in the books she mildly protested in the beginning then wanted it and was encouraging him. Kind of left a sour taste.

I'm not a huge fan of it but I suspect there were meta-plot reasons for it.

One reoccurring theme in last night's episode was reemphasising shades of grey; lots of characters who tended to come across well to the viewer had "bad" moments. Littlefinger's betrayal of Ned Stark had sort of been subsumed by his political games and magnificent bastardness... so he ramps up the sinister Irish accent (I can't recall it being that pronounced previously) and has Hollard shot. People were falling for the redhead wilding and OTP'ing her and Jon... so Ygritte shoots a defenseless farmer in the head and takes part in the sacking (and slaughter) of a village. Everyone hates Cersei... so she has an episode where she actively does nothing wrong, her major positive trait is emphasised and instead is abused. The odd-couple of the Hound and Arya are producing some good comedy moments... so the Hound beats a(nother) defenceless farmer and steals what little he has.

I think the rape falls into that. Jaime started the series as the arrogant man who slept with his sister (pretty much making him the direct clause of the majority of the conflict during the show) and tried to murder a child when caught. Since then he's had much of his character rehabilitated and become someone fans can sort of root for following his capture, imprisonment, journey back to King's Landing and cold reception when he gets there. So now the point that despite all that he's also still a pretty nasty piece of work gets reemphasised with the rape.

As I say I'm not a huge fan of it... I tend to dislike the frequent use of rape in media at the best of times... and I rather fear it will either lead to radical plot changes or some scenes not really making sense. But it did theme into the overall theme of the episode.

I'm not a huge fan of it but I suspect there were meta-plot reasons for it.

One reoccurring theme in last night's episode was reemphasising shades of grey; lots of characters who tended to come across well to the viewer had "bad" moments. Littlefinger's betrayal of Ned Stark had sort of been subsumed by his political games and magnificent bastardness... so he ramps up the sinister Irish accent (I can't recall it being that pronounced previously) and has Hollard shot. People were falling for the redhead wilding and OTP'ing her and Jon... so Ygritte shoots a defenseless farmer in the head and takes part in the sacking (and slaughter) of a village. Everyone hates Cersei... so she has an episode where she actively does nothing wrong, her major positive trait is emphasised and instead is abused. The odd-couple of the Hound and Arya are producing some good comedy moments... so the Hound beats a(nother) defenceless farmer and steals what little he has.

I think the rape falls into that. Jaime started the series as the arrogant man who slept with his sister (pretty much making him the direct clause of the majority of the conflict during the show) and tried to murder a child when caught. Since then he's had much of his character rehabilitated and become someone fans can sort of root for following his capture, imprisonment, journey back to King's Landing and cold reception when he gets there. So now the point that despite all that he's also still a pretty nasty piece of work gets reemphasised with the rape.

As I say I'm not a huge fan of it... I tend to dislike the frequent use of rape in media at the best of times... and I rather fear it will either lead to radical plot changes or some scenes not really making sense. But it did theme into the overall theme of the episode.

"Cersei fucked Lancel?"

Their relationship, Cersei and Jamie, never did make a lot of sense. And once the lust/passion leaves it, it's a giant unraveling that ultimately leaves Cersei alone in King's Landing. That didn't change, despite the narrative changes of the series over the book series. At least, it doesn't seem to have. I guess we'll find out when/if Jamie takes Riverrun.

Jamie's about my favorite character, and the only thing that bothered me is a N/C doesn't really fit Jamie's character. He's killed men for rape before, even when, "everybody done it." For a man with no honor, he has a surprising amount of honor once he loses that hand.

According to the Director of the episode, Alex Graves, the sex turned consensual by the end of the scene. I'm not sure, though, that's clear to the audience.