sprawl15:MooseUpNorth: *shrug* My Oblivion (with 14+ gigs of mods) looks and plays better than console vanilla Skyrim. _My_ Skyrim (with 20+ gigs of mods) plays at 1600x1024, with 2048x2048 textures, and all other settings maxxed, and does it without so much as a stutter (lingering transition instabilities notwithstanding.) And that's with 2010 hardware, so there are better gaming rigs than mine out there. But yes, PCs and consoles are exactly the same and our play experiences are always directly comparable.

Mods are exactly what's wrong with PC gaming. The ability of the people who own and enjoy the game to change the experience to suit their tastes undermines the entire idea of gaming - the companies create a thing that is nominally a game for you to experience and you pay them for it. Very simple, and PC gamers have managed to fark even that up. How about instead of ten thousand mods to put big titted underage Asian girls into Skyrim, PC gamers figure out a way to have a solid, dependable community like on XBox Live?

I agree, by being able to modify games, we're removing the rights of the creator of the works to hold sway over how his/her works is used. Gamers do not purchase the rights to the content, merely the right to play it as is as per the terms of the author or owner. DRM might be harsh, but it's necessary, give the current climate of piracy. Without big budget studios, there can be no great games, and we have to play by their rules; it's their property, after all.

MooseUpNorth:*shrug* My Oblivion (with 14+ gigs of mods) looks and plays better than console vanilla Skyrim. _My_ Skyrim (with 20+ gigs of mods) plays at 1600x1024, with 2048x2048 textures, and all other settings maxxed, and does it without so much as a stutter (lingering transition instabilities notwithstanding.) And that's with 2010 hardware, so there are better gaming rigs than mine out there. But yes, PCs and consoles are exactly the same and our play experiences are always directly comparable.

Mods are exactly what's wrong with PC gaming. The ability of the people who own and enjoy the game to change the experience to suit their tastes undermines the entire idea of gaming - the companies create a thing that is nominally a game for you to experience and you pay them for it. Very simple, and PC gamers have managed to fark even that up. How about instead of ten thousand mods to put big titted underage Asian girls into Skyrim, PC gamers figure out a way to have a solid, dependable community like on XBox Live?