Kathleen Madigan

Show Summary

As the show opens up, Adam’s wife Lynette and her co-host Stefanie Wilder Taylor discuss their new podcast, ‘For Crying Out Loud.’ Adam also talks about his experience getting a massage earlier in the day, and rehashes the infamous coffee mug argument. Later, he talks with Stefanie about whether or not people can change, and Alison reads a news story about South Floridians banning leaf blowers.

Comedian Kathleen Madigan joins the show next, and based on a bit from her stand up routine, the group begins discussing Oprah’s narcissism. Adam also asks Kathleen about her experience on the USO tour in Afghanistan, and she shares her thoughts about the condition of the country, and why she couldn’t get good KFC overseas.

Alison then reopens the news with updates on Amanda Knox’s appeal to the charges of her murdering her roommate. The guys all discuss how difficult it is to tell if someone is lying, and Adam is surprised there isn’t a better way of tracking this in our judicial system. They also talk about some of the updates on the Conrad Murray trial, and the show wraps up with the group discussing the troubled life of Michael Jackson.

Are you fucking kidding me? Banning leaf blowers because they disperse dust? What the hell is going on? This kind of trite crap is a waste of space. Leave people alone. Complaining about second hand smoke laws as an excuse to create more laws? We are really in a shortage of micro laws. How the hell did we ever survive before this kind of health paranoia? Everyone must have died at 4 before all of these pathetic laws. Adam has some great ideas but these kinds of ideas are a giant pile of feces. Get a grip already. Damn living to long on the left coast does cause cranial damage.
People are dying all over because of leaf blowers and second hand smoke? All those people just falling over dead all day proves it right? Our species is doomed with this rampant idiocy.

Have the authors of “Willpower” on the show. “Self-control is the best predictor of a successful life…”Willpower”is filled with advice about what to do with your willpower. Build up its strength, the authors suggest, with small but regular exercises, like tidiness and good posture.”

You can’t polish a turd. It’s still shit. Parent Experiment or whatever it’s called now is still something no one wants to listen to. Retarded women who have nannies for their kids talking about parenting might be the most ludicrous idea ever.

Parenting advice has gotten out of hand. The only advice I’ve ever taken was Ace’s method to keep my daughter off the pole. Remember, we’ve got millions of years of parenting instinct to fall back on. Or 6000 years if you ask the church…

No Bryan is not insane, red. Lawn care is a non-essential cost to home owners, so saying the price level will be increased in order to compensate for the leaf blower regulation is NOT analogous to car airbags, because people can’t live without a fucking car (especially in LA).

People CAN live without lawn care service, however, and at a certain price level, lower income customers will start to say “no, I think I’ll rake my own leaves, thanks”. So the lawncare people are forced into a decision of “more lawns for less money, or less lawns for more money” and over time, the second option will become impossible as more and more lawncare services take business away via undercutting.

if the LA city council thought they could pull a fast one in improvement by changing the name ‘south central’ to ‘south LA’ and think we wouldn’t notice all the infamous aspects; then why the fuck do they think there abortion of a show (TPE) is gonna have a better success rate with a name change ?

It’s interesting that Adam thinks the Government is too retarded to accomplish the simplest of things, from building permits to the DMV, to traffic lights to security scans. Yet, executing people? They could be right on top of that one, no sweat.

Ah fake parenting advice from fake parents…nothing quite like it. If you don’t have a job and still have a nanny because you don’t want to raise your kids yourself you’re not a real parent and I pray to god no one is taking advice from you seriously

Aceman, keep your wife off your network. Not that there’s anything wrong with it, but she is not fit to be an entertainer nor is her cunty friend. WHat has gotten into you? Some pirate ship this turned out to be.

Anyone notice that Adam of,”where the fuck were the parents?” fame, today shit on his longstanding point?He did this early in the show while talking to the large breasted stefanie wilder taylor. AND THEN the aforementioned large breasted woman who has been hosting an advice show, (presumably to help people, and get them to CHANGE) shit on her own purpose, by declaring that people don’t change.

Yeah, I get what Brian was trying to argue, that people will still undercut. But heres the thing. When they come to your house and offer you a flat rate for your yard. Its not $30 for EVERY yard. They come in, look around, ask what you want done, and come up with a price based on the time they think it will take. Thus if raking leafs takes longer then blowing, more time will be added on. The overall price will go up, while they will also absorb some of the cost.

Stefanie….typical lazy woman. Uses the excuse of “oh, that’s just the way I am…I can’t change.” Complete horseshit! It’s that attitude that has created our fucked up society in America. Why can’t people put effort into making their lives better and easier. So stupid. If I ever listen to anything that woman says again, I will do the opposite of whatever advise she pukes out. REtards EVERYWHERE!!!!

Ben You are so right… Stephanie, you are lazy, and Adam was totally right about what he was saying. Saying you cant change is a lazy person’s excuse. Some of the best things in my life have been my ability to change bad habits and philosophies by accepting that I could be wrong, and just like Adam says, I was willing to hear someone correct me (after a logical argument), and not be offended by it.

All my friends’ wives are like Stefanie. One never replaces the empty toilet roll, one leaves gargabe on the counter instead of putting it in the dishwasher, one leaves hand towels bunched up on the counter or elsewhere so they can attempt to “dry” somehow curled up in their own moist…ness…
They all say the same thing ” why are you trying to change me? why can’t you just accept me for who I am?” to which i always respond… “I can’t accept that anyone can be that stupid and lazy…. sorry” They don’t all like me much.

You ever wake up in the middle of the night to the sounds of two alley cats clawing each other to death outside your bedroom window? That’s what it’s like listening to Lynette and Stephanie talk. Please do not allow them on this show again….

Ace, I’m begging you-do not bring the wife and the other dumb lazy chick to the podcast again. I love the your show but those ladies sound like they belong in a completely different fairytale. Especially Stephanie.

Gas powered leaf blowers increase the presence of airborne particles, which may cause problems for persons suffering from asthma, hay fever, or other upper respiratory ailments.

Los Angeles Municipal (LAMC) Section 112. 04 (c) bans the use of the gas powered leaf blower device to minimize the nuisance and health related problems attributed to this type of equipment.

112.04(c) LAMC
The following ordinance became effective on February 13, 1998:

“No gas powered blower shall be used within 500 feet of a residence at anytime. Both the user of such a blower as well as the individual who contracted for the services of the user if any, shall be subject to the requirements of and penalty provisions for this ordinance. Violation of the provisions of this subsection shall be punishable as an infraction in an amount not to exceed One Hundred Dollars($100).”

This section does not preclude anyone from using other devices such as a gas powered vacuum device or electric leaf blower.

Officers enforce Los Angeles Municipal Code Section 112.04(c) in the same manner as any other infraction.

The Los Angeles Police Department has primary enforcement responsibility for this Ordinance. Community members may also register complaints with the Street Use Inspection Division, Department of Public Works, at 1-800-996-CITY (Leaf blower Complaint Line).

An officer who responds to a radio call and/or otherwise observes anyone operating a gas powered leaf blower within 500 feet of a residence within the City of Los Angeles, may take the following enforcement action:

*Inform the operator of the leaf blower that they are in violation of Section 112.04(c) LAMC.

I work in the transportation industry so I have experience in this. Transportation is a tough business because of all the competition. When fuel prices go up or we have new regulations that require us to change it usually cost us more to operate. It is true that eventually the prices for everybody will go up but for a year the freight prices will remain the same. You are discounting the fact a lot of these lawn care companies will have contracted rates already in place for there patrons. So when these new regulations are made a law, the lawn care (or transportation) company will have to absorb the cost for sometime until the prices are negotiated again. Many of the smaller companies will be be run in to the ground because they can not absorb the added cost as long as the larger companies.

This happens with freight rates and fuel surcharge all the time.

Bryan is right in saying the companies will most likely charge the same price. Not forever but for quite awhile.

In general, people charge as much as the market will bear, which is driven by supply and demand, not cost of production.

Only if increased costs eventually put some suppliers’ out of business — lowering supply relative to demand — would prices then increase. But even then, it could be by more or by less than whatever the costs were. There is no direct “passing costs onto the customer” in an open market.

But whatever. The price should go up anyway. Blowing shit all over the place with loud, 2-stroke internal combustion engines is no-reward pollution and a goddam nuisance. It would not be “free” even if it cost nothing.

i have to totally disagree on multiple points. 1. most of transportation is on fuel surcharge. fuel gets passed through with a 2 week lag. the industry has adopted this. even though 2008 was a buyer’s market for freight, most contracts were renegotiated to have a free-floating fuel surcharge. 2. moreover, existing contracts dont matter, the market price is set by new customers/contracts. every new customer will see an increase, and that’s the current market price. the contract that was set 9mo ago is irrelevant to current negotiations.

assuming the leafblowers are outlawed tomorrow, every guy who takes care of laws will need say 30% more time to finish a lawn. this implies that person can do 30% less lawns per day. to make that up prices will go up 30%. whether it’s a buyer’s or seller’s market is only relevant to the magnitude of the increase. in a buyer’s market prices will go up, but probably a little less than 30%, the lawn ppl will have to eat some of the increase. in a seller’s market prices will go up a little more than 30%, over time the increase will be about 30%.

What about electric leaf blowers? They are still loud but they don’t have that 2 stroke engine sound. They sound more like having vacuum cleaner outside. My electric leaf blower can’t be any louder than a lawn mower or weed trimmer, so what is the problem?

P.S. I mentioned the other day that Alison should put her boots up for bid to the fans and now her and B.B. are putting themselves up for bid. I wish I lived in S. Cal so I could watch Alison wash my truck (in the boots of course) but WTF, where are the boots on e-bay?

1) take a moment to be quiet
2) oh my god its exciting
3) what is this sports
4) HUHHH???????????
5) What in God’ name are you blathering on about?
6) *ALL* of the Virtual Aceman stuff (“i don’t know about that”, “what are you gonna do?”
7) all the hewell housers
8) That is the greatest story i’ve ever heard
9) don’t be a one upper
10) Leave the joking to adam (teresa and the other chick)

I never thought I’d disagree with Adam. But bringing on his wife and her friend to plug their podcast seems a little beneath him. Lynette and her friend seem nice, but I was shocked by that move on his part.

I dont care what you call thier podcast. I dont know who in thier right minds would want to listen to these two harpies blather on about “Parenting”. Lynette: I am sure you are a wonderful woman and love your kids with all your heart, BUT……You are married to a rich guy who pays for everything, you DO NOT work! You do not clean your own house! You have a freaking NANNY AND A HOUSEKEEPER! You have NO RIGHT to attempt to give out any “Parenting advice”!

Eh, who listens to it for the parenting advice? I love their show because I love to hear them complain about parenting – same way I like to hear Adam complain about his life. Who cares if it’s just “rich people”s complaints, it’s still entertaining!

Get a job and stop bitching about being a loser. These Protesting twits are the product of the hippies. Regurgitating the same tired lines their parents did in the 60’s. You have been duped. This is a prime example of the kind of lemmings this country is producing. What happens when you let bureaucrats with an agenda run the educational system these kids are in for a rude awaking when they have to venture out into the real world and earn their way. Other people’s money is their money not yours. You have no right to any of it. You are concerned about jobs and the economy then stop voting for the slave master’s who have created this situation America now finds itself.
As a side note, the groups sponsoring these protests are lobbyists and cronies of the democrat political class. They are playing on your blatant ignorance showing now uneducated and ill-equipped these new generations and going to be for the real world. They create the chaos and then come in a pretend to fix it for you. They are robbing you of a future.
And as a side – side note, maybe it would behoove you to do a little study in history and see how it worked out for those nations that played this class warfare, “each according to their need” societies. I know they do not teach factual history and economics in school so be an individual and grow up cause with this kind of “sheepal” mentality you are doomed to be a poor leach your entire life.

Ace- BB is right. If you had attended an Econ 101 class at Valley Community college you might be familiar with the concept of elasticity. The ability of a supplier to pass along cost increase is dependent on the elasticity of the supply. Plenty of supply means inability to pass on cost increases.

ugh… it depends on both elasticity of demand and supply. you’re shifting the supply curve back.

adam’s point makes perfect sense becase if lawncare costs 20% more per month, that’s maybe $20 price increase, not a huge amount for people who want their lawn taken care of. a 20% paycut for near-slave labor is basically not bearable. the supply side is already super competitive, they’re basically operating on zero margins, they cant cut costs in other places to make up for the 20%. they will either raise prices or exit the industry. you’re shifting the supply curve backwards. the demand curve is roughly vertical and the supply curve is roughly horizontal, ie full price pass through without much change in quantity demanded.

I think it came up in the Ben Folds show from last week that Bald Bryan’s house cost over $600,000. There was no follow-up to this fact from Adam or Alison. There’s always talk of how “poor” Bryan is — I had a million questions as to how he could afford a house like that. I realize he won $100k on “Millionaire”, but with the fundraisers going on for his cancer treatment, I assumed that money was all but gone. Not my business, but just very curious…

Bob: I was thinking the same thing, I thought Bald Bryan is “so poor” and doesn’t make any money…WHAT THE FUCK!!!! I wish I could afford a 600K home in these hard times? I thought we were in a recession? I’m happy for him, but upset that Adam uses the “poor Bryan” schtick so long, and then this? Huuuuh? Makes no sense. I know he doesn’t earn $1.65 an hour, but come on!!!! Bald Bryan is pulling in some cheddar to be able to afford a home of that cost? Ohh, and I live in California, Northern, so I know about real estate prices in Cali, I’m not reacting to “sticker shock.”

While I am sorry that his battle with brain cancer left him devoid of mathmatic and free market logic I feel comforted that some free Milton Friedman therapy will re-hab the damaged logic lobe so that BB will again understand that there will never be a regulatory intervention that is not countered with an immediate market driven resonse, even if that response is the complete failure of an industry. If any of the people that throw the term Facism around ever actually read the definition they might realize that thier political education was actually propaganda and indoctrination. People actually pay other people based on what is accomplished. A lot of people have paid universities a lot of money to ruin the minds of thier children. As we now see, what they paid for was accomplished.

BB isn’t damaged and his logic isn’t off. his assumptions are wrong, but based on his assumptions his logic is correct. adam is assuming a vertical demand curve and a horizontal supply curve (correct in my opinion), brian is assuming the opposite, a vertical supply curve and a horizontal demand curve (ultimate buyer’s market). both cases are perfectly possible in a free market.

Adam is an arrogant prick. He cannot see anyone else’s point. He thinks he is always right. He has been factually wrong on quite a few occasions. For a person with no self esteem, he sure has a superiority complex.

The leaf-blower thing is something I suspect only white people do. My neighbour across the street shows up with some massive damn leaf-blower and nearly 4 times a week fires up this noise-monster for some reason blowing leaves off his lawn?
Do people understand that leaves BELONG ON GRASS? Its grass so why is a leaf a problem. Do you blow the grass off too? Do people understand leaves fertilze (naturally) your grass?
Anyways.. he just ZHRRRRRRRRRRRRR that obnoxious blower like he was sand-blasting every square inch of property. Into the street.
It’s creepy. I think its the same kind of neurotic white people who shave their backs and circumcise their genital. not jews. the other kinds.

I’ve officially stopped listening to this show. Year 1 was the best. The show is garbage now. Nobody wants to hear Bald Bryan or some broad that’s easily replacable. Doesn’t Adam know what works? Him and a good guest or him with the North Hollywood gang or him and the phones. That’s it. Simple fucking formula.

So Ace Broadcasting has a show about parenting co-hosted by a woman who does not think people can ever change or ever be trained???? WTF?!?! That might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever listened to. I guess we’re all the same since we were 18 and grown up. How can she even talk about parenting when according to her belief, there is no point – people are people and will do whatever it is they are programmed to do from birth. People are trained to behave certain ways every single day and everyone I know has changed from when they were 25 to now 35. What an idiot….

Someone needs to ask Stephanie why she is hosting a show that hands out advice when she clearly argued people never change and cannot be trained. If that is the case, that means her listeners (people) will be unable to use her advice because they aren’t able to change or adjust to a new way of doing things in regards to parenting.

First, why did Kathleen Madigan slip into a hybrid baby talk/southern drawl accent 71 times over the course of the interview, typically for no reason?

Second, LOL @ the idea that Kathleen Madigan gets “the big picture” in a way that these poor, benighted, narrow-minded soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen do not. You hammer 4-figure checks for riffing on Oprah and childbirth, but because you blew into Al-Asad and spent a few days in the rear you have the hubris to imagine that you have a META perspective that even Colonels, Generals, and the Joint Chiefs don’t have? Please. You can argue that they’re wrong but you can’t argue that you “get it” while they don’t.

Also, how much longer will the Oprah bit be “fresh” now that the show ended?

who’d take advice from Mrs. C and the other c?
“Marry the american genius, who is litterally a millionaire, have a nicaraguan nanny raise you kids, lots of help around the house, bug him with stupid bs, spend his money graciously and have lots of free time to do a superflous podcast on the network your husband built…” ? ??? really?

Stephanie just needs to do everyone a favor and never open her mouth again… except when she’s on her back or knees… This bitch is the dumbest person I’ve ever heard behind a microphone… Seriously aceman your wife is a lovely lady who comes off very nice but her sidekick needs a glass of “shut the fuck up cunt”….. Love the Show ACEMAN!!!!! Get it On!!!!

always surprised when people wonder why we are in afghanistan. Follow the money. That country sits on what is estimated a trillion dollars of mining prospects, uranium, copper, gold, platinum, lithium etc. Wouldn’t it be nice to pacify the tribes and bring in the drills. China just signed a 2.5bil contract in one of the safer areas to mine copper

Adam was all over Bryan about the leaf blower argument, but in fact Bryan was right. Adam’s browbeating had him flummoxed is all. You two really need to call Adam out when he’s wrong. (You especially, Allison!)

I really wish the episode would have discussed leaf blowing regulation more. Adam’s intuition was right. I actually find that a lot of people who worked in the trades have a better intuitive knowledge of economics than people who have never worked for themselves. This partly describes the coalition of rural America and wealthy business America. Economics is not easy to discuss and it gets people all twisted up in their thinking, but that is exactly why it is important to discuss.

This “leaf blowing regulation” is a great example that allows us to discuss very directly the principles of supply and demand as they relate to costs. NOTE: there is a negative externality issue with noise, but bryan and adam argued over the price of the services. So, for now I am going to ignore the noise issue and just purely discuss the price of lawn services.

here is a supply and demand chart of the regulation – http://i.imgur.com/A0Qh6.png
This is the vanilla supply and demand. Bryan was either arguing for a supply curve that is straight up and down. A “buyer’s market” he was saying.

Understanding that supply curve is important. What it means is the number of people who are willing to provide the service at the differing price levels. That is why is slopes up and to the right. At large prices, many people are willing to offer the service. By saying that the supply curve is perfectly horizontal. So by saying this, he is saying that there are no people outside of the leaf cleaning up services who would be willing to get in if it was lucrative, and that the people who are in the leaf services business wouldn’t find something else to do if it didn’t make them any money. Normally with horizontal supply curves we are talking about enormously capital intensive industries like oil, where the marginal costs are low and the small shifts on the margin do not force people to exit the business or new entrants to hop in the when the prices are high.

Leaf cleaning services are the exact opposite of the oil industry. That is why i found this example so funny. There are tons of possible entrants (think all of the construction workers who are out of work). all they would need is a couple rakes, leaf blowers, and a truck (which they already have). And on the other end of the equation, you have people who are just making wages. Its not like all of the landscaping companies are making millions. They are just getting by, and if they couldn’t get by raking leaves, they would be working in a factory, working in a kitchen, doing home repairs, or something else. If anything I believe the supply curve is pretty vertical and small shifts in the prices would make price shift quickly.

The only reason Adam ever brings up the “where were the parents” theme, is not because he’s trying to prove any psychological point of not forgetting the criminal’s influences, but because he’s just going down yet another avenue of “blaming his parents” for their shortcomings in his upbringing. His semi-retarded argument never has to do with the case at hand, only his turning back into himself to bring his narcissitic attitudes of his own parents, into the story. Sorry, Adam, Mr. and Mrs. Psycho Child, cannot save Psycho Child from any wrongdoing, at a certain age.

Adam: Please, please, please!!!
Do some research on lie detector tests. You are gravely uniformed. All they measure is three things: 1.) heart rate 2.) blood pressure 3.) body conductivity (if you’re sweating). They are very very far from being scientifically accurate. The only thing they measure is if you’re nervous or not. Good people fail them all the time, and sociopaths pass them all the time. Plus, if you clench your anus during the baseline, it will raise your blood pressure above normal. Then when you answer the questions there is no way to fail the test. Penn & Teller: Bullsh*t did a bit on it. Check it out.

Your lie detector test idea won’t ever work.
We can’t tell if someone is lying. We are so far away from that.
However, someone who lost the use of one of their eyes installed a web camera in their glass eye so they could re-watch life experiences. Some variation of the sort is possible.

Kathleen Madigan is my favorite female comic. Leaf blowers suck big time. Would it be so bad for workers to pick up a rake? Must everything be automated, polluting and waste gas? A lie detector you’re describing won’t work; the brain’s wiring is peculiar to each individual, and not everyone even knows when they’re lying. Amanda Knox is 100% innocent, the victim of a dishonest prosecutor with a penchant for flights of fantasy concerning satanism and sex. Her main fault is in not showing more sympathy and concern after the murder.

There’s a good episode on lie detector tests on Penn and Teller’s “Bullshit” Basically, it’s just another chance for interrogators to throw some bullshit at you and make accusations. There was an episode on “Mythbusters” about techniques for beating various tests including MRI, one out of the 3 were able to beat them.

Bryan was not right. Do you really think all gardeners and landscaping companies would take less profit if leaf blowers are banned? Do you really think that’s how business works? They will definitely pass the additional cost onto customers. Wake up.