Everyone has a few courses near them that for whatever reason people seem to place on a pedastool. Since the one that jumps into my mind as being overated goes in soon, it's the appropriate time.

Personally, I think that in michigan, the toboggon course at kensington is the most oeverated course around.Son't get me wrong, it's fun, for the 2 weeks or so it's in I usually play it 2 or 3 times, but people here seriously jizz themselves when it gets put it.My .02 is that it f this course were permanent, it would not get the sacred status it carries.

As for the one that lives up, not doubt, is Flip City. by far one of the greatest experiences you can have playing disc. a round there is unlike anything else.

Flip City definitely lived up to the hype for me personally. It is a beautiful course and the amount of work Bill puts into it is obvious.

I think my home course of Hickory Hills in Traverse City is one that lives up to its reputation as well. It is a well worn in course but still plays tough.

I just played the Hanson Hills DG course in Grayling MI, and it is huge. More than I thought it would be. Walking the course will challenging even the fittest golfer, but the holes themselves will also. It is a course that asks for precision distance as well as well placed up shots. Lots of elevation changes, very hard greens with roll away possibilities, and brand new cement pads.

Hanson Hills is one of the best in the state right now. It is brutal but fair.

Oh and the photos of it online suck, they only hurt it. Sorry to who ever took them but they do.

Milo McIver (Oregon) is way over-rated. A very pretty place, but the course is almost entirely wide open and boring (almost no altitude change, most holes play across huge clearings to a basket tucked behind this or that tree). It is laid out more like a rec ball golf course (i.e., designed to make old men on viagra feel better about their athletic skill) than a proper disc golf course (i.e., real challenges, not just wide open throws from one clearing to the next).

Toney's Mountain Golf (California, near Grass Valley) is under-rated. This is the finest and most challenging disc golf I've ever seen (enormous variety, open and tight shots, insane elevation, extreme risk/reward), but perhaps the fact that it is private and very secluded keeps the crowds (and attention) away. I feel lucky to live only ~one hour drive from there.

Over Rated: Blue Valley (KCMO). Long for longs sake. It's got maybe 5 really nice holes, but the rest leave a lot lacking. When people play BV for the first time, they say, "man, that's a long course," not "man, that's a sweet course."

Under Rated: WyCo (KCMO). A nice mixture of open prairie and technical distance. I think this and Cliff Drive are two of the best par 57-60 courses in the area.

Lives Up: West Lake (Quad Cities). If you've never played here, you need to go. Woods, Water, Open, Technical, Crushers. Bring every part of your game.

JHern wrote:Milo McIver (Oregon) is way over-rated. A very pretty place, but the course is almost entirely wide open and boring (almost no altitude change, most holes play across huge clearings to a basket tucked behind this or that tree). It is laid out more like a rec ball golf course (i.e., designed to make old men on viagra feel better about their athletic skill) than a proper disc golf course (i.e., real challenges, not just wide open throws from one clearing to the next).

I could see how you might say this with Milo playing the perm. 27 hole course without knowing the par's of holes. Many holes change to hard par 3's or hard par 4's with the tourney layout. With the two 18 hole layouts in mostly long positions and OBs these are two of the nicest placement par 60's courses I've played on the west. Some shots are a little open, but they are par 4/5's. The genius hole from the new tee position looks nasty hard. Actually the only wide open par 4 is 14 west on the dual 18 layout. It is really just a power throwers birdie 3. All the other par 4's are placement shots despite there openness. Same with the monster par5...very open but still hard to birdie 4 or even par without placement.

Toboggan is also one of my fav. Mich placement par54+ courses. To each their own, but we need more courses with par 4/5's that introduce course management.

My overrated course is San Fran. My under rated is garberville, ca and codorus woodsy one plus the two X 9's.

colombo117 wrote:Flip City definitely lived up to the hype for me personally. It is a beautiful course and the amount of work Bill puts into it is obvious.

I think my home course of Hickory Hills in Traverse City is one that lives up to its reputation as well. It is a well worn in course but still plays tough.

I just played the Hanson Hills DG course in Grayling MI, and it is huge. More than I thought it would be. Walking the course will challenging even the fittest golfer, but the holes themselves will also. It is a course that asks for precision distance as well as well placed up shots. Lots of elevation changes, very hard greens with roll away possibilities, and brand new cement pads.

Hanson Hills is one of the best in the state right now. It is brutal but fair.

Oh and the photos of it online suck, they only hurt it. Sorry to who ever took them but they do.

funny you would say that, untill i had been to flip city, I previously said that hisckory hills was the best course in the state. I would also rank beast in ludington on par with hickory hills. Leviathan gets an honorable mention too, by far the hardest course in michigan.

colombo117 wrote:Flip City definitely lived up to the hype for me personally. It is a beautiful course and the amount of work Bill puts into it is obvious.

I think my home course of Hickory Hills in Traverse City is one that lives up to its reputation as well. It is a well worn in course but still plays tough.

I just played the Hanson Hills DG course in Grayling MI, and it is huge. More than I thought it would be. Walking the course will challenging even the fittest golfer, but the holes themselves will also. It is a course that asks for precision distance as well as well placed up shots. Lots of elevation changes, very hard greens with roll away possibilities, and brand new cement pads.

Hanson Hills is one of the best in the state right now. It is brutal but fair.

Oh and the photos of it online suck, they only hurt it. Sorry to who ever took them but they do.

funny you would say that, untill i had been to flip city, I previously said that hisckory hills was the best course in the state. I would also rank beast in ludington on par with hickory hills. Leviathan gets an honorable mention too, by far the hardest course in michigan.

Topcide,If you ever come north to Traverse City hit me up. Also, June 12th is the official Grand Opening of Hanson Hills. If you can make it, do it. Its like Leviathan, but better.

I think a lot of the par 4/5 courses in general are overrated. I feel a good 27 hole course with some challenging par 3s are the best (Banklick, Seneca Creek). Par 4/5 holes can be some of the best in the game if they are done right but too many are very luck-based with very small landing zones or too much clutter in the "fairway".

Timko wrote:Over Rated: Blue Valley (KCMO). Long for longs sake. It's got maybe 5 really nice holes, but the rest leave a lot lacking. When people play BV for the first time, they say, "man, that's a long course," not "man, that's a sweet course."

Under Rated: WyCo (KCMO). A nice mixture of open prairie and technical distance. I think this and Cliff Drive are two of the best par 57-60 courses in the area.

That's good to know. My buddy and I are planning a road trip in the next few months. We plan on both of these, but he's really hyped on BV and I've been waning to play WyCo pretty bad. Also excited to play Down Under. The time I planned in playing it, there are a huge storm for 2 days before and it was unplayable muddy.

Wow, you think Badlands is Overrated? Including the backwoods 9?27 holes with some nice elevation and tight shots in the wooded 9 along with the water hazards on the course? Interesting.

Yea I was also shocked. Then I remember Maks has been hating on CO. DG since he's arrived so I wrote it off as home sickness. I forget if you said you played the Blair Witch or not Maks.

Sorry Maks, I don't want to diminish your feelings on Badlands just because it's where I cut my teeth and the only course I ever really crave to play. You have every right to think the course sucks. Heck, I want to put down which course I think is over rated but the Colorado people would burn me at the stake for such heresy.