GlockRock

Manchin is showing his true colors. Once you get to D.C. you lose all common sense. Leave our guns alone, if you don't want one then don't buy one. I'm tired of these so called representatives thinking they know whats best for everyone, when they can't even take care of something simple.

DontTreadOnME

Buckup-->I'd love to have that discussion, but we've already left this up to the government and look how badly they hosed it up. I can't understand why anyone with any common sense wants to leave ANYTHING up to the government based on their track record. But I guess lazy people want someone else making their decisions for them.

gottarideduc

If I'm not mistaken, you have the good fortune to spend a lot of time in a declared gun-free zone. How do you feel about some schizophrenic victim of society taking advantage of this advertisement and shooting the place up? You think the cops are gonna be there fast enough to save people? Or would you rather be packing yourself, when that event happens? But I guess you wouldn't want to contribute to more guns. So far still your choice, but maybe your coworkers feel differently and want to keep their choice. Fair enough?

KalvaChomer

What would be really funny Einstein, is, if when the next shooting occurs the people in the area call the White House or the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, instead of armed police ! They could send a pacifist to talk to the shooter about why killing people is not a nice thing to do.

Einsteinwasaliberal

Actually I have had mixed feelings on gun free zones for years. Ever since a case of a teacher who was being stalked by an ex husband became news. She lost her appeal to carry a gun (and keep it in her car) so she would have it when she got home, in case he was waiting for her. It really made me think... I am for the right of those with no mental issues to have the right to carry firearms to protect themselves. This does not include AR15s or rocket launchers. All of our rights have limitations and the answer to every question we are facing in these debates is not more guns. I also know many teachers that you would not want walking around the school with a weapon. And are you going to limit that? How about an older, weaker, or small female teacher who could easily lose his weapon if a student wanted to cease it? If a well trained soldier hasd a gun and was there when Lanza busted in, as he had the element of surprise, who is to say what would have happend

Einsteinwasaliberal

And the guard, soldier or whoever would have been outgunned or do you want them with AR15s also. We can be like the 3rd and developing worlds where soldiers with assault weapons are ubiquitous. I am torn on the gun free zone.

gottarideduc

Well Liberal Einstein, you don't understand the technical issues and you misrepresent the legal ones. There is no legal way to own a rocket launcher unless it is "inert" and fully automatic weapons are very strictly regulated. As for semi-automatic rifles that look like they are military, it's just looks. Design if you will. In rate of fire they function exactly like a semi-automatic handgun. It logically follows that outlawing them does nothing whatsoever to enhance safety. This being a fact, when you and your friends demand them banned, I must conclude that you are willfully using their "scary" look as an entry point to comprehensive gun control. 'Coz, you know, you been told over and over again what the facts are and still don't acknowledge them. Unless you can't grasp them in which case I'm wasting my time.

KalvaChomer

I suppose it takes an "Einstein" to propose that it is better for any group of people to be unarmed and have NO means to respond to an attack than to have at least someone there with a weapon of equal lethality. Why then call the police ? What will they do other than provide more targets for the shooter if they show up unarmed ? And let me ask you "Einstein", when you say "And the guard, soldier or whoever would have been outgunned or do you want them with AR15s also.", how many bullets do you think it takes to drop a single shooter ? A well trained person can deliver a deadly or stopping shot, even under fire. It happened at Ft. Hood.

KalvaChomer

Did I say anything about calling Brady and making jokes ? I suggested it might strike you more funny (in sarcasm, the opposite, not funny) to have someone call a gun control nut when what they need is someone with a gun. Einstein you ain't !

A popular T-shirt with the self-reliant ladies these days has printed on the back - "Gun Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound."

gottarideduc

This is fun. Liberal Einstein. Apparently you're running out of arguments. Mr. Brady's status as victim of a crime does not immunize Mrs. Brady from even scathing criticism if she uses said status to push a political agenda. Your argument is disingenuous. Further, unless they're members of the US Armed Forces, I am not aware of any soldiers running around this country with fully automatic Kalashnikovs. Coz that's what those 3rd world thugs are mostly using. As already stated, these arms are illegal here except with extra special permission. I hope to have expressed myself more clearly this time.

KalvaChomer

And bumper stickers such as the left's "Don't like abortion, Don't have one." Or the early 60's and 70's posters found in college dorms, right beside the "Che" posters, with Emerson's ""Whosoever would be a man, must be a nonconformist." You leftists set the standard. You couldn't make a sensible argument then and you have learned nothing since.

NathanHaleFan

The liberals are back to demanding that pistol grips, thumbhole stocks, mounts for bayonets or mounts for grenade launchers, are features that kill. As if the CT shooter would have killed fewer kids if rifles with those features had been illegal.

realitycheck

"Belleville police chief Bill Clay is ordering his officers to get their pancakes from anywhere but Denny’s, calling the restaurant “political stupidness. The department says the detectives were out of uniform but wearing their badges, when manager David Rice asked them to either leave or put their guns in their vehicle. Rice, told the detectives that one of their weapons, specifically a female detective’s gun, was making another diner feel uncomfortable"

Caoimhghin

Einstein: You oppose the AR15 platform, why? It is one of the most controllable and accurate rifles to use. Would you rather people have inaccurate platforms? Personally I want to have the right tool for the job. Since no one can predict every situation, you usually carry a multi-tool. Well the AR platform was designed for close quarters, with the capability of longer ranges if needed, in essence it is a multi-tool.(not all life threatening situations happen within 7 feet of you) A handgun or shotgun may not be the right tool for your home protection choice. Farms are different then apartment buildings. Would you want a surgeon to use a steak knife, they can, but its not the best choice. Country living (farms, ranches etc...) have wildlife issues they need to deal with, and I would rather have my AR 15 going up against a ****** off mother bear, cougar, wolves etc... than a handgun.