(John 8:56-59) Abraham your father rejoiced greatly at the prospect of seeing my day, and he saw it and rejoiced.? 57 Then the Jews said to him: ?You are not yet 50 years old, and still you have seen Abraham?? 58 Jesus said to them: ?Most truly I say to you, before Abraham came into existence, I have been.? 59 So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid and went out of the temple.
Jehovah created Jesus as the very first of his creations...before even the angels or the universe...As I said...proverbs 8.

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To continue this...Jesus was created by Jehovah God as the very first of all his creations before even the universe...Proverbs 8: 22-31...and (Colossians 1:15) He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation;
Jehovah God has always existed...Jesus, was created...and because he was the very first, he could honestly say he existed before Abraham,,,because Jesus was still in heaven, BEFORE he was sent to us via Mary....

Because Jesus is NOT Jehovah God himself...Jesus is his son...created by Jehovah...
Proverbs 8: 22-31
Catholics, to support their [ false ] trinity idea, have claimed this scripture to refer to the ' quality' of wisdom...
But how can a quality have feelings...like fondness??
Read the scripture.

Jesus was, God and man at the same time As in God is the Father Son and Holy Spirit. When Jesus was baptized His baptism and praying: both actions I view as His example for us. It is in the scriptures Jesus said John 14:9 you have seen me you have seen the Father in one another John 10:30 Jesus said I am the Father are one.

John 4:22 "Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews." Ephesians 3:5 "Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; 6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel." Jesus didn't know the divine mystery. If Jesus had been God, John 4:22 would have been a lie, and God can not lie.

"god" is a title, not a name...
Like Sir or mister...
And who is this ?
(2 Corinthians 4:4) among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, so that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.
This ' god' is against Jesus and all he stands for...

so He could resist temptations. Hebrews 4:15 "For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin."
He was able to better know the forces of temptations this way..

Very good.. Two identities...separate...So what does this do to the beliefes of the main religions...Catholic and Islam...It renderds them simply UNTRUE. And as such they have to be a part of Satan's organization. No matter what they claim.

Jesus had nothing to do with God. In fact, the "Christian" Jesus didn't exist. The Jewish Jesus did exist and his name would have been "Iseuos" or "Joshua" depending on if he spoke Greek or Hebrew (English had not been invented yet) This Jesus never called himself "divine" and neither did the half brothers of Jesus ever call him divine.

Jesus had a LOT to do with Jehovah God...it was Jehovah who SENT him...
(Matthew 10:40) ?Whoever receives you receives me also, and whoever receives me receives also the One who sent me.
(John 8:18) I am one who bears witness about myself, and the Father who sent me bears witness about me.?
FATHER WHO SENT ME...

Simply, Jesus is NOT almighty God himself...Jesus is the son.And Jesus prayed to his [ creating] father...Jehovah...
(Exodus 6:3) And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as God Almighty, but with regard to my name Jehovah I did not make myself known to them.
(Proverbs 8:22-31) Jehovah produced me as the beginning of his way, The earliest of his achievements of long ago

Linda...you know the answer...Jesus is the son, not almighty God himself...[ Jehovah ]
(Exodus 6:3) And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as God Almighty, but with regard to my name Jehovah I did not make myself known to them.
When this was written, Jesus was unknown...even though he was existing in heaven alongside his father,...
Proverbs 8: 22-31
I know I'm repeating myself but its for other's benefit...who may be reading this forum.

In a body we all forget something of the source from which we came, and so too Jesus. "These things I do and greater things shall ye do" does not put himself above us, religious interpreters do sometimes.

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