Recent posts by clambam on Kongregate

First of all I would like to ask why? Please do advise what is your valid reason for removing the game from Kongregate and trying to get us all to move to FB? So many players have been moving here from FB as they don’t like the new version, surely it would make sense for you to keep this version going?

You obviously don’t value your backyard monsters players as you are insulting us with these pathetic compensation amounts, 800 shiny is nothing. You say that if we are not satisfied then you will review, but then all we get in reply is a copy and paste fob off that you give to everybody:

"We are very sorry that you are not happy with the amount given, but there is nothing else we can do to credit you for this issue. This transfer affected many players and we have determined a set amount to give players depending on a variety of factors in the interest of fairness. If you have any other issues please let us know.

We hope that we’ve addressed your ticket correctly. If you feel that we haven’t done so, just reply back to this email. If you have any other issues please go to support.kixeye.com/mail and submit a new ticket.
-Jessica"

Can you see how many bare faced lies you are making?
- You don’t care about us, just our money
- Of course you can do something more, it is no skin off your nose to give us the proper amount of shiny to compensate us properly, you will not lose anything by doing so, we can’t go and spend it anywhere else. You would lose nothing to do so, what you would gain is the faith of your customers to continue playing the game and supporting you.
- Where is this in the interest of fairness? The only interest I see that you have is in your bank account

You are obviously under the misguided view that players from Kongregate (not to mention those that were moved here from G+ and have been double shafted) are going to buy more shiny on FB to “get them back up to speed in no time”…yeah I notice you have dropped that phrase now. I cannot see anyone transferring from Kongregate doing so, not when you behave in this way, however if you were to behave in a proper way then of course I could see them doing so. What is the guarantee that you will continue to update the game there, already your forums are full of complaints at the lack of updates to the FB version (and those are just the ones you have not deleted).

All game developers on FB earn money from the advertisements on FB pages dependant on the amount of players who play their game, yet this does not seem enough for a company who earn millions off of their players, no you want to try and shaft us for every possible cent you can.

If you are not prepared to support your players properly then I will refuse to move to FB and support you.

For your reference please take a look at Kongregate’s stickied thread on this matter, this is how a decent company should behave, perhaps you could learn something.

Please also note Kixeye, that unlike in your own forums you cannot delete posts that you do not like the sound of here. So the challenge to you is to satisfactorily answer the questions put to you here, if you do not then we can only presume that you are too embarrassed to tell us the real unscrupulous reasons.

I got a pathetic 800 shiny. It would be no skin off kixeye’s nose to compensate us fully and properly, except that they obviously hope that people transferring from kong will buy more shiny to help “get back up to speed”. Utterly dillusional in my opinion……and if I am wrong then I have no respect for anyone moving from here that buys any shiny on FB, in fact less than no respect I consider anyone who buys shiny on FB to be a retarded idiot and a traitor.

I will not be going to FB, wasting my time rebuilding and I will not be supporting kixeye by playing their games (even if you don’t buy shiny they will get money from advertising on the page). I would rather spend that time publicising what a money grabbing, uncaring, unethical company kixeye is (that was difficult to write without the swearing that would have had the message censored) Kixeye made over $100,000,000.00 last year, yet every game they make has the same kind of complaints from users. Be warned – if you complain too much on their forums your gaming account will be banned, however much money you have invested in it, gone.

Anyway rant over, maybe it is a blessing in disguise, I get to quit one of my addictions, only drinking smoking, gambling and women left…..

I will also not be moving to FB, the compensation offer was pathetic.
I’ve had a great time being part of this alliance, I joined this alliance a long time ago so that I could join in the light vs dark war, and have stuck here ever since due to the great people here and all the fun we have had, I’ll miss you all.

I’ll still be here on kongregate, but I will not have anything to do with FB nor kixeye (except publicly slagging them off to anyone who will listen)

Long live TDK…good luck on FB whoever is going

p.s. meantime before we are shut down I will make the most of the game and jump around and fight whoever wants to fight

Hey Wave, all those wasted sad emotions, I was offered to be a leader back then but turned it down as I needed to take a break from BYM and sort things out in real life….I hope you didn’t think I was away from the game because I felt surpassed, hehe.

Many good memories from this game, the vast majority of them from being part of the brotherhood of TDK, planning and scheming, trolling enemies, taking over the map and our times jumping together.

Kixeye’s compensation offer was a pathetic 800 shiny, and the FB account I made has already been locked, I am not going to beg kixeye, but I will tell them what I think, and I am not going to give FB my phone number and personal details, so I will not be making the transfer. I will make the most of the game while it is still here, I’m happy to jump and fight anyone who wants a fight.

I will still be on kongregate playing games for anyone who wants to keep in touch

Hey Wave, didn’t notice your poll earlier.
I will be coming on the condition that they give me enough shiny to build, upgrade and speed up everything to the equivalent of what I have now. God knows how much that is, but it is certainly a hell of a lot more than the 500 shiny I have heard they suggested.

woohoo has pretty much summed it up, but to elaborate on chews and pathing failure –
if you do not put entrances in your walls then monsters will chew through wherever they want, it will take 9 daves less than a second to go through a block. Make entrances to steer attackers where you want them to go and to make them walk further and waste time, and of course you can put traps there also, guaranteeing they will hit them

Well what a surprise, shafted by kixeye again. They can make an addictive game and they even have a jazzy website, but their customer care and business acumen are appalling.

First rule of business – give your customers what they want!

From what I have heard they have lost 63% of players on FB due to MR3 (wether this figure is accurate I don’t know). Surely if they had any common sense they would continue to run both sites, FB for those who like MR3 and kong for those who want MR2, look at the amount of FB players who have been coming here because of MR3, no doubt spending shiny, if they updated everything except MR3 here, then they would surely have even more shiny spent. Instead they seem set on trying to force MR3 to work, by moving us across to it and by giving people on FB no alternative to escape to.

IF kixeye are to give me a fully maxed yard with fully maxed champs as I have now, then OK I will give it a go (if I really don’t like MR3 I can always quit), the idea of steaming into FB and raising hell with a big kong alliance (or 2/3 allied alliances) is appealing. However 500 shiny? That is ridiculous, I hear the starting amount of shiny for new players on FB is 1000. The amount of shiny would need to be enough to cover the cost of buying and upgrading all buildings and speeding them up, as well as inferno of course. As for ops, that is a difficult one to call as MR3 is a completely different system.

However I have to say that I have a dislike of FB and I am not overly fond of the way that kixeye conduct themselves, so unless I am able to instantly upgrade myself to where I am now, I am not prepared to waste my time rebuilding and upgrading to find myself on a new map system that is not as good as the one we have and has even more glitches, just to try and save kixeye from their failings.

On a more positive note, I would like to suggest that we have an end of days, royal rumble style war, all alliance members who would like to participate can jump to the same area and let’s go out with a bang

monkee, for your level your base looks fine, the one thing I would change is to pull your maproom, hatcheries, etc in a bit so that they are in range of at least snipers, preferably also cannons. Having these buildings spread out can be good for making monsters waste time…but at later levels when you have a much bigger and more complex yard, for now the important thing is to give your defence towers more time to shoot the enemy

Woohoo – I like to use a wide range of monsters, and I base my selection on:
a) what will path/punch through to the adts quickest
b) what is in your bunkers
The rest of you base looks solid, and on the basis of me not knowing where your traps were I would probably just use daves with fomor and zaf, as without adts/bunkers they would be pretty much invincinble, I would just keep a reserve zaf in case a sniper/tesla was bypassed and started shooting zafs from behind
On the whole I think your yard is good, if you could just pull silos in a bit, and push adts and rgts out a bit so that they were more mingled it would be a lot trickier. I always try and make it so that if someone is going to catapult my adts then the best they can get is one adt and one other defence tower for the cost of a silo. No yard can ever be invincible, but some are more of a pain in the butt to attack than others

I disagree, but you obviously have your own thoughts on it and won’t be moved, so let us agree to disagree….unless you would like to put theory to the test and send me an invite?
Even if you were correct and it would take 4 waves of catapulting, then what is to stop me throwing in monsters on the 4th wave after the catapulting? You do not need seperate waves for catapults and monsters
If catapults didn’t exist then you would have a very, very strong base, however they do exist and are a major strategy for most players, the vast majority of attackers will try to catapult your adts, and if possible your bunkers too, before sending in monsters. With your arrangement you are making life easier for them by bunching them all together and not giving them much protection with silos, in addition you are throwing in a bonus of all 3 RGTs and a couple of snipers, in effect you are tempting people to catapult you.
Anyhow we all have our own opinions, so good luck with it

BaseYard Planner
The red circles on the yard planner are where there should be traps.

You’re not concerned about those catapultable ADTs?

This is super cataprone, not only your adts. I could use one pebble cata to take out all your adts and railguns and 2 snipers in one shot….but what I’d actually do is use two to three cata shots and also take out all 4 of your bunkers as well. Boom all your best defences gone!
You need to pull in those silos and mingle them more with your defences

If I understand correctly, this is your attack plan.
Wave 1: Knock down ADTs with a single pebble bomb.
Wave 2-3: Knock down bunkers.
Wave 4: Level base.

The problem with this is that the ADTs will survive direct hits from the 10M pebble bomb AND the 5M twig missile. Therefore, you will spend 4+ waves (INdirect hits are less damaging further away from the center, and ADTs will be at the very edge of your pebble bomb) just to eliminate them. Since DP triggers after the 4th attack wave, you’re done attacking.

Net profit of all four waves: At least -30 million resources.

Does anyone have a non-catapult related criticism?

I understand your thinking, and I used to think the same myself, however your reasoning is flawed and very much along the lines of map room 1 where people usually only attack you to gain res, once you are on world map it is a very different ball game.
When you are in a war with someone, as important if not more important than looting res, is draining your opposition of res, even if I only looted 5m of each res from you that would be +20m to me and -20m to you, that makes 40m. In addition I would disrupt your autobank, which with a half decent size empire could be worth a lot more than 40m, I would destroy all the monsters in your housing and bunkers, which you would need to replace, and I would incapacitate you until you could repair and rebuild monsters.
So you can see already that it is easily worth spending 30m if I wanted to.
30m can also be catapulted in two waves along with the monsters to finish the job (which would not take much after all your best defences were taken out), so where your 4 wave argument comes in I don’t understand, maybe you have not come up against a decent player yet?

In addition to this looting res is only one reason why people may attack you, not the only reason.

BaseYard Planner
The red circles on the yard planner are where there should be traps.

You’re not concerned about those catapultable ADTs?

This is super cataprone, not only your adts. I could use one pebble cata to take out all your adts and railguns and 2 snipers in one shot….but what I’d actually do is use two to three cata shots and also take out all 4 of your bunkers as well. Boom all your best defences gone!
You need to pull in those silos and mingle them more with your defences

kindyll – who’s the daddy, well done, perhaps when you get used to the sleep depravation we may see you back here

shawn – inferno is different from up top, there are no catapults, no healers and no champs, monsters are faster and do more damage/housing, so I’d advise you aim for concentrated fire power rather than spread out design, but not so compact that kw can do damage to multiple buildings with their splash. Your compound is your best defense so put it in the centre, also use walls to stop sabnox from shooting quakes from outside of their damage range, make them have get up close so they can be destroyed by the quakes

Ok, guys I have remodeled my yard a little bit and I’m sure it has improved and I tried to add what you guys said, I surely anti cataproned my ADT’s a little bit and now following my application, I want to see if I am good enough to get in the alliance. So please if you may, check my yard for improvements.

It is an improvement, however you should note that the catapultable parts of a building are the top and bottom corners, so if you could twist your silo/adt arrangement a bit anti-clockwise it would be much improved, as it is I could still hit the adts without touching silos, albeit only hitting with edge of shot which is weaker than centre.
Double walls are better, but there is still one point where it is only one block between corner of th and corner of adt, I would advise using a staggered 1/2 bock overlap on your double row to counter this problem without having to space out too much further or use too many more blocks
I shall not comment on gorgo ;^)

Icy, your yard looks fine, the only advice I’d give is the opposite of armyoftwenty – cluster up your mines more, if an attacker is using healers then you need as many of your mines to go off in quick succession as possible, to have a chance of killing high health point monsters before they get healed. If you only use small clusters then it won’t be enough to kill them and they will just get healed before the next cluster

Welcome to TDK cooperman, your base looks solid, yard extensions will help you space out the last few bits. You’ll be pm’d the password for chatzy….see you in there
Dreadfiend – you definitely need to extend your yard, nice original design, but you really need to do something with the section with the adts, not only are you adts very cataprone (one shot for both like Wave said) but also the wall is too long there, you either need to shorten it or double up some parts to stop chews through to your adts, in my minds eye of an attack on you monsters will go adt-block-th-block-adt which will probably skip past a lot of your heavy traps (if they are where I imagine they are)

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