"The White House called me to advise to help change the system of clemency, and I’m sitting in the Roosevelt Room with, like, a judge who had sentenced criminals and a lot of really powerful people and I just sat there, like, Oh, s***. I need to know more.

"I would say what I had to say, about the human side and why this is so unfair.

"But I had attorneys with me who could back that up with all the facts of the case.

"It’s never one person who gets things done; it’s always a collective of people, and I’ve always known my role, but I just felt like I wanted to be able to fight for people who have paid their dues to society.

"I just felt like the system could be so different, and I wanted to fight to fix it, and if I knew more, I could do more.”

She also revealed that she no longer cares if people see her as shallow.