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Re: Sick of the Slander in CI

Originally Posted by stew88

Ephesians 4:32And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

im Sick of the Slander in CI this is why i quit posting on forums for the past year i tried to get along with folks and found out it is impossible to get along with everyone especially in CI i mean look at any CI forum in existence 90% of it is legitimate rebukes or slander im not saying CI is a Cult BUT there is one Cult like presents and its holding a mere man up and anyone he does not like you have to not like as long as we have forums all over the internet with 90% infighting most of which non biblical arguments we will not attract people into the movement we need to rebuke with bible in hand not with your own personal judgement. i my self started to spend more time reading the arguments then actually reading my bible even worse i started to feed into the wickedness. guys what im saying is there are some people who say they are CI and are demons but our legitimate brothers and sisters we need to forgive and we need to let our enemy's repent dont keep shoving it in there face rebuke and move on.

2 Timothy 4:2 - Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

Galatians 6:1 - Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

Luke 17:3 - 17:4

3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.

4 And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.

I found this thread to be quite intriguing and now that the basic doctrine of Christian Identity has been summed up for the OP, I'd like to address what you said:

Having learned the message from people like Dan Gayman, Sheldon Emry, Lt. Col. Gordon "Jack" Mohr, etc. back in the 1970s AND having collected a lot of books by authors like Bertrand Comparet (primary contributor for the AIT course), Wesley Swift, Howard Rand, Raymond Capt, etc. I got a pretty good foundational knowledge from them.

Unfortunately, I left the ministry in 1987 and have not kept up with the comings and goings of groups per se. I still worshiped and read a lot of material (i.e. newsletters, books in my library, etc.) Then, the Spirit came calling. I'll be 61 on Wednesday - though I can still pass for 50... that voice inside you keeps saying it's time to share your knowledge; to get involved in the work and to teach the Good News.

It was like getting hit in the face with a cold towel. In the years since I quit following the various political and religious groups, both David Duke and Don Black seemed to have sold out (I had expected they had been exposed to Christian Identity and had found their way, but I was DEAD WRONG.) The entire "movement" has split into hundreds of factions and those in Christian Identity have split and are at war with one another. It doesn't make for a very productive atmosphere in which to recruit.

Anyway, in a few weeks we will begin an active ministry here and I am going to pray for an actual church. We need an actual church with volunteers that help their parishioners. You know... we have to visit the sick, help those without a job find one, help our brethren with everyday problems, attend to their spiritual needs, make house calls, give counseling to those who are in need. Fellowship on the Net / social media / shortwave radio is all well and good, but we need to meet our people in person and address the needs that are not being addressed.

Just a few hours ago Ronnie Lucas Wilson, 31, was put on Tennessee's Top Ten Most Wanted List after getting into a shootout and shooting a cop:

Wilson is, supposedly, a confirmed member of Aryan Nations. He is indicative of an entire generation of our own who are fed up, disgusted, disenfranchised, and locked out of society. But, losing them to jails, prisons, drug addictions, and graves is not something we can afford to tolerate any longer. Where are the father figures and big brother figures for those who are alone and feel as if there is no longer any hope? We're losing our youth because pastors are not stepping up to the plate in this regard. We are losing many potential white children (that are needed to repopulate our race and keep our culture alive) because so many of our own are in prison while white women are mixing with the non-whites.

I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but this is an area that CI could definitely work to improve. And I'm committed to practicing what I preach. In a few weeks, the video - audio ministry is launched and, hopefully, we will get people involved at a personal level. We will offer help for those who need direction. In 2018 let's expand beyond the Internet. Let's help each other and our brethren. I'd bet if all will join this effort, we won't be cutting each other's throats with the infighting. In His Service, The Resister

Re: Sick of the Slander in CI

Originally Posted by TheResister

I found this thread to be quite intriguing and now that the basic doctrine of Christian Identity has been summed up for the OP, I'd like to address what you said:

Having learned the message from people like Dan Gayman, Sheldon Emry, Lt. Col. Gordon "Jack" Mohr, etc. back in the 1970s AND having collected a lot of books by authors like Bertrand Comparet (primary contributor for the AIT course), Wesley Swift, Howard Rand, Raymond Capt, etc. I got a pretty good foundational knowledge from them.

Unfortunately, I left the ministry in 1987 and have not kept up with the comings and goings of groups per se. I still worshiped and read a lot of material (i.e. newsletters, books in my library, etc.) Then, the Spirit came calling. I'll be 61 on Wednesday - though I can still pass for 50... that voice inside you keeps saying it's time to share your knowledge; to get involved in the work and to teach the Good News.

It was like getting hit in the face with a cold towel. In the years since I quit following the various political and religious groups, both David Duke and Don Black seemed to have sold out (I had expected they had been exposed to Christian Identity and had found their way, but I was DEAD WRONG.) The entire "movement" has split into hundreds of factions and those in Christian Identity have split and are at war with one another. It doesn't make for a very productive atmosphere in which to recruit.

Anyway, in a few weeks we will begin an active ministry here and I am going to pray for an actual church. We need an actual church with volunteers that help their parishioners. You know... we have to visit the sick, help those without a job find one, help our brethren with everyday problems, attend to their spiritual needs, make house calls, give counseling to those who are in need. Fellowship on the Net / social media / shortwave radio is all well and good, but we need to meet our people in person and address the needs that are not being addressed.

Just a few hours ago Ronnie Lucas Wilson, 31, was put on Tennessee's Top Ten Most Wanted List after getting into a shootout and shooting a cop:

Wilson is, supposedly, a confirmed member of Aryan Nations. He is indicative of an entire generation of our own who are fed up, disgusted, disenfranchised, and locked out of society. But, losing them to jails, prisons, drug addictions, and graves is not something we can afford to tolerate any longer. Where are the father figures and big brother figures for those who are alone and feel as if there is no longer any hope? We're losing our youth because pastors are not stepping up to the plate in this regard. We are losing many potential white children (that are needed to repopulate our race and keep our culture alive) because so many of our own are in prison while white women are mixing with the non-whites.

I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but this is an area that CI could definitely work to improve. And I'm committed to practicing what I preach. In a few weeks, the video - audio ministry is launched and, hopefully, we will get people involved at a personal level. We will offer help for those who need direction. In 2018 let's expand beyond the Internet. Let's help each other and our brethren. I'd bet if all will join this effort, we won't be cutting each other's throats with the infighting. In His Service, The Resister

I am always edified by wisdom from the remnant. It helps builds my faith in Jesus Christ. Without ceaseless faith and soul searching; we in the remnant would be brain washed long ago by mental conditioning from the system. Appreciate your selfless input on right and wrong for the white Israelite remnant.

Re: Sick of the Slander in CI

Originally Posted by TheResister

I found this thread to be quite intriguing and now that the basic doctrine of Christian Identity has been summed up for the OP, I'd like to address what you said:

Having learned the message from people like Dan Gayman, Sheldon Emry, Lt. Col. Gordon "Jack" Mohr, etc. back in the 1970s AND having collected a lot of books by authors like Bertrand Comparet (primary contributor for the AIT course), Wesley Swift, Howard Rand, Raymond Capt, etc. I got a pretty good foundational knowledge from them.

Unfortunately, I left the ministry in 1987 and have not kept up with the comings and goings of groups per se. I still worshiped and read a lot of material (i.e. newsletters, books in my library, etc.) Then, the Spirit came calling. I'll be 61 on Wednesday - though I can still pass for 50... that voice inside you keeps saying it's time to share your knowledge; to get involved in the work and to teach the Good News.

It was like getting hit in the face with a cold towel. In the years since I quit following the various political and religious groups, both David Duke and Don Black seemed to have sold out (I had expected they had been exposed to Christian Identity and had found their way, but I was DEAD WRONG.) The entire "movement" has split into hundreds of factions and those in Christian Identity have split and are at war with one another. It doesn't make for a very productive atmosphere in which to recruit.

Anyway, in a few weeks we will begin an active ministry here and I am going to pray for an actual church. We need an actual church with volunteers that help their parishioners. You know... we have to visit the sick, help those without a job find one, help our brethren with everyday problems, attend to their spiritual needs, make house calls, give counseling to those who are in need. Fellowship on the Net / social media / shortwave radio is all well and good, but we need to meet our people in person and address the needs that are not being addressed.

Just a few hours ago Ronnie Lucas Wilson, 31, was put on Tennessee's Top Ten Most Wanted List after getting into a shootout and shooting a cop:

Wilson is, supposedly, a confirmed member of Aryan Nations. He is indicative of an entire generation of our own who are fed up, disgusted, disenfranchised, and locked out of society. But, losing them to jails, prisons, drug addictions, and graves is not something we can afford to tolerate any longer. Where are the father figures and big brother figures for those who are alone and feel as if there is no longer any hope? We're losing our youth because pastors are not stepping up to the plate in this regard. We are losing many potential white children (that are needed to repopulate our race and keep our culture alive) because so many of our own are in prison while white women are mixing with the non-whites.

I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but this is an area that CI could definitely work to improve. And I'm committed to practicing what I preach. In a few weeks, the video - audio ministry is launched and, hopefully, we will get people involved at a personal level. We will offer help for those who need direction. In 2018 let's expand beyond the Internet. Let's help each other and our brethren. I'd bet if all will join this effort, we won't be cutting each other's throats with the infighting. In His Service, The Resister

I’m sure David Duke and Don Black were exposed to DSCI, but not sure as to why they never came to it. Stormfront use to have a religious section which was later taken down. I never went to it since you had to be come a member of SF and join the group. I remember SF pretty much never let people speak their religious views outside of that section which no longer exists. SF believes in “free speech” you just can’t talk about Jesus Christ…What a joke.

White Nationalists aren't really our friends...Yes, we should preach to them, but many are very antichrist and blame Christianity for everything.

As far as the splits in DSCI it's pretty much due to the false prophets bringing in all their false doctrines. Judeo Christianity and Catholicism is already on the wrong path, so what’s left for the enemy to attack? People like us who have been shown all this truth.

I pray for you and that your endeavors are successful. I do believe this is what we need to do. I try my best to help our brethren in need whenever I can.

If this man was a true believer in Christ, he wouldn't be out committing crimes. He was already charged with a prior attempted murder that was reduced, then does this? Not smart at all.... He probably follows those in CI that think its ok to commit crimes and look what happened. Now he will spend the rest of his life in prison.

Re: Sick of the Slander in CI

Originally Posted by Erik

I’m sure David Duke and Don Black were exposed to DSCI, but not sure as to why they never came to it. Stormfront use to have a religious section which was later taken down. I never went to it since you had to be come a member of SF and join the group. I remember SF pretty much never let people speak their religious views outside of that section which no longer exists. SF believes in “free speech” you just can’t talk about Jesus Christ…What a joke.

White Nationalists aren't really our friends...Yes, we should preach to them, but many are very antichrist and blame Christianity for everything.

As far as the splits in DSCI it's pretty much due to the false prophets bringing in all their false doctrines. Judeo Christianity and Catholicism is already on the wrong path, so what’s left for the enemy to attack? People like us who have been shown all this truth.

I pray for you and that your endeavors are successful. I do believe this is what we need to do. I try my best to help our brethren in need whenever I can.

If this man was a true believer in Christ, he wouldn't be out committing crimes. He was already charged with a prior attempted murder that was reduced, then does this? Not smart at all.... He probably follows those in CI that think its ok to commit crimes and look what happened. Now he will spend the rest of his life in prison.

I concur with you 100 percent. To that end, I have tried to reason with White Nationalists and the alt-right relative to their strategies. It was a good way to whizz them off and have them making baseless allegations.

It is a fact. Don Black and David Duke used to rent out part of my parent's basement. My family gave them a variety of small booklets like Your Heritage by Comparet, Were All The People of Earth Drowned in the Flood? by Wesley Swift, and other such material. That was in the 1980s.

I look down the road more than a quarter of a century later and am wondering if they are examining the fruits of their labors. The people they have influenced and spent their lives breaking bread with are a whos who of misguided people that have brought shame and embarrassment to us all.

It's 2018 and time we made a New Year's Resolution to turn things around and breathe new life into DSCI. May Yahweh Bless All of You.

Re: Sick of the Slander in CI

Originally Posted by TheResister

I concur with you 100 percent. To that end, I have tried to reason with White Nationalists and the alt-right relative to their strategies. It was a good way to whizz them off and have them making baseless allegations.

It is a fact. Don Black and David Duke used to rent out part of my parent's basement. My family gave them a variety of small booklets like Your Heritage by Comparet, Were All The People of Earth Drowned in the Flood? by Wesley Swift, and other such material. That was in the 1980s.

I look down the road more than a quarter of a century later and am wondering if they are examining the fruits of their labors. The people they have influenced and spent their lives breaking bread with are a whos who of misguided people that have brought shame and embarrassment to us all.

It's 2018 and time we made a New Year's Resolution to turn things around and breathe new life into DSCI. May Yahweh Bless All of You.

Oh wow, that's crazy....I guess they found it more profitable to do what they are doing now than to follow Jesus Christ.

Re: Sick of the Slander in CI

Both Don Black and David Duke have significant baggage. When "CI" reaches out to the alt-right usually its someone like Fink. Then he'll make sure
than no alt-right person will ever touch real CI ever again. As he just has with the daily shoah. One problem with the alt right is many are rockwell national socialists.
Rockwell took a Christian anti communist movement and turned into an atheist religion. Either because he was a fool or because he was a plant to make sure
the NS movement was forever poisoned.

You know what the difference between the jews and the Nazis is?
The jews are actually guilty of the crimes their accused of.

Re: Sick of the Slander in CI

Originally Posted by Astragoth

Both Don Black and David Duke have significant baggage. When "CI" reaches out to the alt-right usually its someone like Fink. Then he'll make sure
than no alt-right person will ever touch real CI ever again. As he just has with the daily shoah. One problem with the alt right is many are rockwell national socialists.
Rockwell took a Christian anti communist movement and turned into an atheist religion. Either because he was a fool or because he was a plant to make sure
the NS movement was forever poisoned.

Isn't that the MO of a lot of these people subverting the truth and siphoning off believers?