lorbiiiii wrote:

His TMX replays on those two tracks (which match his Dedimania records) validate and don't look unusual to me. What exactly is the problem?And two examples is not enough, how many more suspect entries are there?

Re: TA Mudda hacking...

Dude,I'm pretty sure Mudda isn't a cheater and i can give you some reasons.

First,He is one of the fastest learner i know (to set quickly good times). Fun/Full-Speed for naggaz is a new map, so that's not a surprise to see him with that time. (And it does not look impossible to beat tbh ^^)

Then,Speed-Fun Community has a "problem". We don't take enough time to train seriously a map, so most of dedis1 are finally easy to beat with a bit of train. And Mudda trains. Don't think that he is able to do 1 sec faster than everyone in 5minutes. Skill is nothing without training One example, Melbourne Race. Mudda has 56.11 and Dedi2 was like 56.7x. "Ommg ,wtf, 0.6 ahead on top 2", you would say. DGF and RM trained this (during the scrim we did). Result : i set a 56.05 (while my pb was 57.1x before) and 55.8x is possible (it's the limit though imo). But it took me few hours to do it...

During Speed-Fun Competitions (Speed Fun League at the end of last year for example on tm2), Mudda had sick times, sometimes dedi1, but he was never like 0.5 ahead of everyone else. Why ? Because every participants had train seriously as mudda is doing on maps you find on JFF's servers.

I understand it can be frustating to see him with such good times sometimes, but don't complain, train and you'll surprise yourself by the times you can set

Re: TA Mudda hacking...

Re: TA Mudda hacking...

as i said, i admit, that i got hacks a few weeks ago, used them on some maps, but as dedimania may can see, it was just on a few maps, nothing more. i already have been warned for it, what i can understand (why shouldnt i)just normal thing getting warned.

as i already said, im sorry for everything i did.however, hacks are useless, fun stealing, and destroying everything i built up and reached in TM until now.maybe you guys, and of course you dedimania guys can understand.

also maybe it wasnt right to represent mudda as a cheating. also maybe you are right, and he really isnt cheating. again sorry for everything, and sorry mudda.

Re: TA Mudda hacking...

lorbiiiii wrote:

as i said, i admit, that i got hacks a few weeks ago, used them on some maps, but as dedimania may can see, it was just on a few maps, nothing more. i already have been warned for it, what i can understand (why shouldnt i)just normal thing getting warned.

A few? I found only one at first glance, but now you made me look more carefully at your entries of that same day.First sector 13.40s on y0bO8ExIL6GJ00IWhujOFAlqor and 8.77s on hdlLG8NxJUu9dsWOwwncuf_4cL seem impossible to me, as did your entry on aNCop2MlvQwwdv3RsUfXVstw2u4. That's enough for a ban.

The only reason I didn't ban your login is because of your (late) confession, and the apology to muddafuqer, but all your records are gone. Just a normal thing too.

lorbiiiii wrote:

as i already said, im sorry for everything i did.however, hacks are useless, fun stealing, and destroying everything i built up and reached in TM until now.maybe you guys, and of course you dedimania guys can understand.

No I don't understand, I never will, and you destroyed that yourself by choosing to use cheats.

As for muddafuqer, I don't know for sure there really is no cheating involved, only that I haven't seen convincing evidence that there is.But his sectors 4 & 5 on _bt5RzLY4TXQmOewz9FRJJ3nIJl look suspiciously fast compared to other entries. What do you folks think about that one?

muddafuqer wrote:

Re: TA Mudda hacking...

Hi guys. I'm pretty late to the party but I would like to add my two cents.

First off: Is it possible to hack in this game? Yes, it is.

Who am I to judge?I am the former captain of Bullracings Speed Team (winner of ESL Speed Premiership 5) and member of eSports United (winner of SPS 6 & 7) . So take this from someone with a little bit of semi-professional experience.

Why am I writing this?We are in the middle of Speed Premiership 8 right now and Mudda is also participating as a member of Quantum and he is holding the world record on almost every map. So his "actions" are affecting me and the other participants, too.

Fact is: Whether or not he is hacking, Mudda is generally a good player. You can easily tell by simply watching his replays. No argueing about that.

What bothers me is that he is holding the world record on 9 of 12 ESL maps, while only being slightly behind WR on the other 3 maps and the fact that he is pretty unkown and new in this competitive scene. Its just strange that someone like that is suddenly appearing and playing noticeably better than guys who have been top players for years.

The only sort of hack or manipulation I could think of, might be anything that gives only a tiny bit of advantage. Something which is not too suspicious, because you cant really notice anything. Maybe something that reduces the friction in wallrides and tubes by only a very small amount so that you lose only a little bit less speed than usually. But thats just an example and hypothesis.

Whether or not hacks are involved, its not really worrying me because it turned out that he is playing rather "normal" at least in Rounds mode. Some say he is only cheating in TA because he is much worse in Rounds. But that is no proof.Speaking of proof... there is not much we can do to prove anything.

Bottom line: if he is not hacking, he is highly talented in terms of fast learning and being able to drive insanely good times in a very short amount of time. In that case you can take this whole comment as a big compliment.

If only he could prove that he is not hacking, so that people can stop bitching around that and take him as a motivation to improve themselves.

Re: TA Mudda hacking...

ano0bis wrote:

If only he could prove that he is not hacking

I was talking to Mudda some weeks ago about some track I've played. I wanted him to play it aswell to see what he can do on it. The track was created with TMUnlimiter and had dimensions of 256³, meaning that you could only play this track when starting the game with TMUnlimiter. Mudda tried for 20 minutes and couldn't even get the game started, because he didn't even know how to install TMUnlimiter. Apparently he's a complete noob when it comes to computers. Now imagine him trying his luck finding/using hacks.

When you play a track long enough you will see that every Mudda time is beatable or atleast can be equalled. I compared my replays with his and couldn't see anything suspicious. He wasn't taking walls magically faster neither were his SD's faster than mine. He's just an overall great player and knows his shit.

Re: TA Mudda hacking...

Re: TA Mudda hacking...

Hmm. I've compared that replay and the one from Mudda, and I must say there's an odd speed gain around the 20 second mark and afterwards it just keeps escalating somehow. Could you find more of these tracks where similar things have occurred perhaps?

If you do I might be able to issue a ban (not deleting records just yet), so Mudda might step up and prove those runs with replays, which would eventually give an idea if they're actually valid or not.