Rush claims the battle was lost when conservatives started modifying the word marriage (traditional marriage, straight marriage) to describe the institution rather than insisting that the word itself necessarily refers to traditional/straight relationships and therefore doesnt require modification.

How would you have enforced that message discipline against the left, though? Their 40 percent of the country would have been calling it gay marriage no matter what.

'Thats because they dont know how to deal with being labeled a homophobe."

I'm not the least bit afraid of homosexuals, but what they do disgusts me. If that makes me a "homophobe" than so be it. It's right up there with Al Sharpton labeling someone a "racist"...it carries no weight.

Bingo FRiend! It is great to see that some freepers realize that these guys are only in it for the money just like Anne turncoat Coulter. They have only been concerned with preserving their own bank accounts rather than fighting for what is right. These people care very little for the common man although they pretend to.

...by softening its edge on some volatile social issues and altering its image as the party always seemingly "eager to go to war... We do need to expand the party and grow the party and that does mean that we don't always all agree on every issue" ... the party needs to become more welcoming to individuals who disagree with basic Republican doctrine on emotional social issues such as gay marriage... "We're going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party," Paul said. [Rand Paul: Time for GOP to soften [immigration, gay marriage] stance]

One day after announcing on his radio show that he is "truly considering" running in 2014 for the U.S. Senate seat now held by New Jersey's Frank Lautenberg, Rivera amped up his message today in a television interview and a column on the Fox News Latino website... a moderate Republican who is fiscally conservative but also supports gay marriage and Roe v. Wade... [Geraldo Rivera declares himself a 'moderate Republican' as he eyes U.S. Senate run]

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posted on 04/07/2013 12:59:45 PM PDT
by SunkenCiv
(Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)

Unfortunately Rush has always been uncomfortable talking about traditional sexual values — even though our welfare state is fueled by unwed motherhood and young thugs growing up without fathers. He made his name with “caller abortions” early in his career but has steered clear more recently. On his shows, he does not oppose gay marriage with much enthusiasm and appears eager to switch the subject to financial or economic topics.

Perhaps he is afraid the the liberals will point to his four marriages. Maybe he gets pressure from his nitwit wives, including the one who hired Elton John to sing at their wedding.

Rush claims the battle was lost when conservatives started modifying the word marriage (traditional marriage, straight marriage) to describe the institution rather than insisting that the word itself necessarily refers to traditional/straight relationships and therefore doesnt require modification.

A point I have occasionally tried to make.

There is no such thing as "gay" marriage. Never has been, never will be. In 10,000 years of human history, it does not exist. It never will exist.

Old joke:

If we agree to call a dog's tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have?

Answer:

Four. Calling a dog's tail a leg doesn't make it a leg. Pass all the laws you want to, there is no such thing as "gay" marriage and there never will be.

I happened to hear the show where he talked about this. He, personally, did not concede the issue, but was remarking on an appraisal from someone else that asserted the battle was lost when the verbiage was changed, IOW, as soon as people started referring to “gay marriage” the definition of marriage as it had been known for thousands of years was already compromised.

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posted on 04/07/2013 1:12:29 PM PDT
by spodefly
(This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)

I would like to think that 2012 taught us that all those suposed “conservative” pundits are in this for one thing and one thing only ... money. They could care less about Conservatism and America. While I stopped watching these nitwits some time ago, 2012 really solidified my decision. The only one’s worse? The LibTard ones.

Rush, by contrast, is not giving up on fighting Obamacare. He fights even though at least 80 percent of the American people support the most important feature of Obamacare — eliminating preexisting conditions. Rush continues to fight socialized medicine because it is right thing to do.

Unfortunately, he doesn’t spend anywhere near the same energy fighting gay marriage.

Rush claims the battle was lost when conservatives started modifying the word marriage (traditional marriage, straight marriage) to describe the institution rather than insisting that the word itself necessarily refers to traditional/straight relationships and therefore doesnt require modification.

He's exactly right - I never understood where or why people came up with the term "traditional marriage" - just as absurd as "gay marriage."

Is Rush just in it for the cash now?

What does this even mean in this context - makes no sense. What is it that you disagree with as far as what he said? Our side screwed up the debate and essentially helped them win the argument. He's exactly right.

It ain't Rush. It's Rush's boss. Rush has a boss, also, that he has to work for, and most bosses don't always agree with your values.Julie Talbott may be the reason "why" Rush doesn't say he's against homosexual marriage.

I am so angry at people on radio and TV telling me to accept this behavior as a given. Like I have figured out some time ago, Rush is about the money and is turning his convictions into some luke watered down we must accept it. Though, his Christian base may want to wise up. Seriously. You guys made him what he is..Don’t take this.

Rush is reporting the news. No jackass should doubt that the communists Democrats have already finished the issue. The same will happen to the gun issue. We have no power and will not be able to stop anything unless 2014 Senate goes Republican, kick the likes of McCain out, and keep the house. Even then we will have to take power away from the communists black King Obama and his empire of communists criminals.

Rush has a boss that is a homosexual. That's all I know. I'll still listen to Rush, even if his boss won't let him speak against homosexuallity. Other than that, we know what God says through the Bible.

Those who support homosexuals are against our Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ. These anti Christ people only bring destruction on us ALL. I have NO sympathy for homosexuals!

The other is: any question that our elections process is filled with fraud. RUSH said he doesnt want to go there, when ever election fraud is brought up.

No he doesn't either. Here's just a couple recent examples: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/02/05/democrats_move_to_make_voter_fraud_easier http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/09/07/democrats_count_on_voter_fraud

Well..going on and on and on about this as a given is not an inspirational motive for the opposition to defend traditional marriage. He could come out on the side traditional marriage versus the understanding it's a given. What a message. He seems to have given up himself. He said his friends were concerned more about their money/economy than a gay agenda. Hello. Not good. That spoke volumes to me. His base should be furious if they are credible and I do think they are. So, I stand by my thoughts.

The problem is that, just like Obama guard dog Fx News, Obama guard dog Lamebaugh doesn’t include the Founding States’ division of federal and state government powers in his public policy discussions. Otherwise patriots would know that the Founding States made the 10th Amendment to clarify that the Constitution’s silence about things like marriage means that marriage is a unique state power issue.

Patriots need to get themselves up to speed on the Constitution and its history and then question why they put their faith into so-called conservative commentators like Fx News and Lamebaugh.

He did a lot of damage in the way that he has handled this issue like he handled the issue with the college student. It’s been reported on local news that Rush Limbaugh says there’s no need to challenge the gay marriage issue, it’s over. He didn’t think this through enough. It gives those who are on the edge or a the push to give up, or to just not want to try any further and fight on. He needs to turn this around and make the position clearer for traditional marriage and for the traditional supporters to fight on. I could not believe he did this. He gave the left so much. He’s been slipping here lately. I like Rush though he has been changing the past few years.

I have listened enough to Rush. We don’t need to go to drink our knowledge of conservatism from these fountains of wisdom. The string us along and when push comes to shove they say it’s all a done deal: gay marriage; immigration; Obamacare, and so on. Enough is enough.

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