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Phyllis Adler was introduced to Erin Gilbert by Phil Hudson, Erin's boyfriend and colleague, at a function at Columbia University. Phyllis was a guest lecturer in Professor Daniels' class on astrophysics and cosmology.[2] Erin told her she was a fan of hers.[3] Phil informer her Erin just learned she was being published. Erin admitted she was very proud. Phyllis stated she didn't allow her lab to submit to journals anymore because she thought journals tampered with the process and ultimately hurt scientific research.[4] Erin tried to ingratiate herself and added awards were dumb, too. Phyllis thought awards were massively important and unfortunately, the only way to draw attention to good science.[5][6] It soon became apparent to Erin that Phyllis would answer everything contrary to what she would say. She excused herself to get ready for the lecture. Phil wished her good luck on her tenure review. Erin replied 'fingers crossed' even though it didn't mean anything. Phyllis disagreed and informed her it had been proven that superstitions could have tremendous performance benefits.[7] Erin joked she was wrong about everything then was careful not to step on any cracks for her mother's sake then played with a man's ponytail. Phyllis asked Phil if he really knew her. He replied he did.