Re: Not a chance this will work out for Tesco

I think you're 2nd point is a load of BS. Club card is entirely to make sure you always shop at Tesco not at competitors. They wouldn't put all those deals together for 4X voucher value if getting you to spend the vouchers in-store was their main gambit.

Rather they are much cleverer, and get people hooked to using vouchers as the foundation for their dining out... always buy Tesco 'cos it means we get to eat out for free.

And I'm not sure your first point is much cop either. Amazon is a massive hit in the UK, as is Tesco itself outside the traditional groceries.

Eeew

Re: An injection moulded magnesium chassis?

>>There's distinctly more chance of a lithium fire causing a magnesium fire than there is of a couple of protons causing planetary annihalation.

In the same way that there is more chance of being struck by lightning than the LHC destroying the planet. If you get your device into a situation it could catch fire, you already have enough problems.

Re: An injection moulded magnesium chassis?

Re: A very expensive mobile computing solution

>>And 80GB is a tiny amount if you are working with modern software and images.

Then it's odd the W7 PC I use 8+ hours a day for my job as a software developer as well as for miscellaneous home PC user stuff is only up to 120Gb after 4 whole years, including all the old git/svn working copies lying around, my personal music collection, and all the crud copied from my last desktop "in case I might need it".

I repeat, you should not be storing everything on your surface in the first place, therefore 80Gb is loads of space... considering most tablets are 16/32Gb it should be pretty blindingly obvious that even 50Gb of free space is plenty, and therefore the couple of GB you lose for a Linux install is hardly a problem... surely your Linux/Win partitions can share files or you could even install Linux on a bootable SD or something along those lines.

Re: Dell have beaten them to it

Re: A very expensive mobile computing solution

If only you could use external storage with Surface Pro.

Of course some of us would find the 80Gb or so free space on the 128Gb version is fine for work and Linux. You possibly don't realise how much space 80Gb is... if you don't fill the thing up with video it's a lot. 20Gb used to be OK for a desktop and PDFs/doc files are not really bigger than they were back then.

anything the Surface Pro can do that could not be done by a similarly spec'd laptop

Price

Comparing it to a tablet it looks extortionate. No doubt some will be suggesting it should be £300. But it's not a tablet, it's a mid-range laptop squashed into a tablet casing. From the hardware side I think it's a marvel of modern technology to be honest.

But do you need a full PC in a tablet? If you do, this might be your wet dream. Otherwise just get an iPad :)

Re: A very expensive mobile computing solution

How do you know it "doesn't quite work" when it hasn't been released yet?

And why on earth do you think this is based on Server 2012... isn't it desktop W8? Actually since Pro is just x86, which edition of W8 is it anyway? And couldn't you set it to dual boot Linux+W8 or W7+W8 or whatever?

Re: Subscription...

NO SUBSCRIPTION

The other thing is, if you look around you'll find the subscription model is the one which is taking over - hosting, source control, storage, bug-tracking, music, netflix, yada yada. I agree that the idea of the office suite being an installed app is deeply ingrained so it feels weird but maybe that's where everything is going. Or maybe it's just this decade's trend and it will revert when we get bored of it.

Pro Plus?!

Re: Are we sheep?

You might think you're pretty smart and nothing like a sheep/insect. But it's been well-known for decades that en masse, people act in ways that can be studied.

Do you really think it's going to be as simple as "oh you're near this bar, lets send you there like everyone else"? Such a system would in theory automatically avoid these kid of issues although it sounds an absolute nightmare to create.