"So- by attempting to circumvent the first Amendment and establish Christianity as a national religion dominant above others, do those who believe this ought to be a Christian nation qualify as needing to be restrained?"

They were against the establishment of any one particular form of Christianity but the founders did use the general principles of Christianity as a foundation along with the bible.

The Establishment clause says that "Congress shall make no law establishing a religion or interfering with the free exercise thereof. " That's the clause that all of this has come from. There is nothing in there about separation of church and state. So the Congress should not and must not establish a denomination.

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."--John14:6

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.-- John 3:16

"We love Him because He first loved us."--1 John 4:9-10

"There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear ... "1 John 4:18

"just because they capitalized a proper noun does not mean it was the christian god they were referring to."

If their diety wasn't the God of the bible then why was the Liberty Bell inscribed with a biblical verse from Leviticus 25:10 which says, "Proclaim Liberty Throughout All the Land Unto All the Inhabitants."?

If God is supposed to be separated from the state then why are depictions of Moses in the Supreme court and in the chambers of the House of Representatives?

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."--John14:6

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.-- John 3:16

"We love Him because He first loved us."--1 John 4:9-10

"There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear ... "1 John 4:18

"just because they capitalized a proper noun does not mean it was the christian god they were referring to."

If their diety wasn't the God of the bible then why was the Liberty Bell inscribed with a biblical verse from Leviticus 25:10 which says, "Proclaim Liberty Throughout All the Land Unto All the Inhabitants."?

You're getting desperate, aren't you. Our laws and customs are not established by what is written on a bell that was so poorly made it cracked.

If God is supposed to be separated from the state then why are depictions of Moses in the Supreme court and in the chambers of the House of Representatives?

Why are the "lawgivers" from other cultures there too? Does that mean they also believed in Zeus?

Come on. Your arguments are going to work. Look at the one document that establishes the laws of this land. The bible and bible gods are conspicuously absent from that document.

Dave - Just a Man in the Mountains.

"I will not attack your doctrines nor your creeds if they accord liberty to me. If they hold thought to be dangerous - if they aver that doubt is a crime, then I attack them one and all, because they enslave the minds of men."― Robert G. Ingersoll,

"You're getting desperate, aren't you. Our laws and customs are not established by what is written on a bell that was so poorly made it cracked"

What does the condition of the liberty bell have anything to do with why a scripture of the bible was written on it? Now who's getting desperate?
Our laws were founded on the Ten Commandments from the bible.

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."--John14:6

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.-- John 3:16

"We love Him because He first loved us."--1 John 4:9-10

"There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear ... "1 John 4:18

"You're getting desperate, aren't you. Our laws and customs are not established by what is written on a bell that was so poorly made it cracked"

What does the condition of the liberty bell have anything to do with why a scripture of the bible was written on it?

It means as much as what is written on it - ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! :D

Now who's getting desperate?Our laws were founded on the Ten Commandments from the bible.

Then where in the Constitution are they mentioned? Where in our Constitution or laws is anything that is found ONLY in those so called "ten commandments" that is not found anywhere else?

Dave - Just a Man in the Mountains.

"I will not attack your doctrines nor your creeds if they accord liberty to me. If they hold thought to be dangerous - if they aver that doubt is a crime, then I attack them one and all, because they enslave the minds of men."― Robert G. Ingersoll,

Got anything in the law? Or is all you have a bunch of meaningless side arguments?

Dave - Just a Man in the Mountains.

"I will not attack your doctrines nor your creeds if they accord liberty to me. If they hold thought to be dangerous - if they aver that doubt is a crime, then I attack them one and all, because they enslave the minds of men."― Robert G. Ingersoll,

Got anything in the law? Or is all you have a bunch of meaningless side arguments?

Then why are the Ten Commandments depicted all over the Supreme Court, the Library of Congress and on the floors of the National Archives --it's far from meaningless.

"We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of the government, far from it. We have staked the future of all of our political institutions upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God." -- James Madison, 1778

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."--John14:6

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.-- John 3:16

"We love Him because He first loved us."--1 John 4:9-10

"There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear ... "1 John 4:18