Grace, bottom line I didn't buy the "proggy", intense sections at all...thought they felt totally contrived, proggy for the sake of it, whereas I think he is brilliant and a natural for crafting melodic pop with crossover or metal overtones. But I'm sort on an outlier Wilson fan I suspect....I'd much rather hear FoaBP or Incident than Sky Move Sideways or most of his earlier, "cool" stuff.

Just bought the concert DVD too! Excited, but I doubt it will slay me like Anesthetize or Octane. But I'll give it and Raven a fair shot, I promise you that

You know, Jim, `Grace' suprised me in that, for all of Wilson's jumping up and down about not being derivative and lazily retro `proggy', `Grace' sure had massive sections to very 70's inspired Crimson like prog lol! I loved it though! :)

Oh, I'm still trying to pick up my jaw from watching that Wilson solo DVD.....I lost count of how many times I'd be watching and suddenly go `Fuuuuuuuuuuu*******kkk!!!!' over and over being blown away by it lol!

Looking forward to seeing how I feel about these solo-band guys compared to PT. I really love the PT band individually for the strengths they bring without ever getting pompous musically....I don't like to sit there and get hung up on "whoa these guys are technically brilliant players".......instead I like to be blown away by what they bring out of the track.....and I think the PT band members bring out SW perfectly. Just like the Floyd members brought out Waters....whose stuff may not have worked nearly as well with other people....and thinking about his solo albums, they didn't.

I pre-ordered from Burning Shed and it turned up a bit early
and it is excellent. It's much more prog in the classic sense than
his first two. However, as like GFD there are quite a
few KC references it should appeal to the avant crowd
as well as mainstream proggies.

The musicianship is officially awesome. Who would've thought
the bassist from 80s UK pop band Kajagoogoo would end up an eminent prog
musician? The
mellotron on this album is incredible (played by SW himself and not the
brilliant keyboard player in his band) and I find in the notes they
used the exact same mellotron that was used recording KC's ITCOTKC. SW actually plays some mean guitar solos on this disc too.

Watch
this album stroll to number one prog cd of 2013. I doubt it'll he
bettered this year thats for sure. If I hear a better song than Drive
Home this year I'll be surprised. This, Luminol and the title track are my favourites.

Looking forward to seeing how I feel about these solo-band guys compared to PT. I really love the PT band individually for the strengths they bring without ever getting pompous musically....I don't like to sit there and get hung up on "whoa these guys are technically brilliant players".......instead I like to be blown away by what they bring out of the track.....and I think the PT band members bring out SW perfectly. Just like the Floyd members brought out Waters....whose stuff may not have worked nearly as well with other people....and thinking about his solo albums, they didn't.

Jim, my impression from the live DVD is that they are all "team players". They are ensemble players, and not "flash" players. There are some extended solos, but they are all tasteful........no "w**king" in Wilson's solo band. Keep in mind that there is a different guitarist on the DVD than is on the new album.

I just picked up my copy today. After one listen, I can't figure out if he's making or making fun of prog. If that sort of thing bothered me I wouldn't love "Thick As A Brick". So far I enjoy this immensely.

Grace, bottom line I didn't buy the "proggy", intense sections at all...thought they felt totally contrived, proggy for the sake of it, whereas I think he is brilliant and a natural for crafting melodic pop with crossover or metal overtones.

Exactly how I see it. But somehow the ambient stuff managed to grab me after quite a lot of listens. Suppose it could also be Dave Stewart's orchestra arrangements which brought me closer to the music.

"Sectarian", however, was pretty dull. I hope the new album has more rock moments than the title track offers.

Looking forward to seeing how I feel about these solo-band guys compared to PT. I really love the PT band individually for the strengths they bring without ever getting pompous musically....I don't like to sit there and get hung up on "whoa these guys are technically brilliant players".......instead I like to be blown away by what they bring out of the track.....and I think the PT band members bring out SW perfectly. Just like the Floyd members brought out Waters....whose stuff may not have worked nearly as well with other people....and thinking about his solo albums, they didn't.

Jim, my impression from the live DVD is that they are all "team players". They are ensemble players, and not "flash" players. There are some extended solos, but they are all tasteful........no "w**king" in Wilson's solo band. Keep in mind that there is a different guitarist on the DVD than is on the new album.

Grace, bottom line I didn't buy the "proggy", intense sections at all...thought they felt totally contrived, proggy for the sake of it, whereas I think he is brilliant and a natural for crafting melodic pop with crossover or metal overtones.

Exactly how I see it. But somehow the ambient stuff managed to grab me after quite a lot of listens. Suppose it could also be Dave Stewart's orchestra arrangements which brought me closer to the music.

"Sectarian", however, was pretty dull. I hope the new album has more rock moments than the title track offers.

I know I need to keep trying to like Grace. Too many people I respect think its the cat's meow. But God it just bores the sh*t outta me.....right now I'm giving it a hiatus to see if I can come back to it later. Because I'm not one of these people who judge an album after 5 or 10 plays and throws up a bad review. I realize some albums are long term growers. The Incident is just such an example for me. Took me quite a while to appreciate. Now it's very high on my PT list.

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