Thursday, April 26, 2012

Contract? Fuck Your Contract

Heard today that the City is livid with the Lts union. The Union reminded the City that they can not detail Lts out of their area without paying them time and a half all day plus OT. City called bullshit and union put it on the table. City threw a shitfit and said screw it, they will do with only the tact and area team Lts. and not pay premium to the other Lts. One more screw up by the City

Evidently, the Lieutenants Association brought up the point that any watch lieutenants detailed to the NATO event would have to be paid for being out of their assigned districts. It's pretty much written down in black and white in the contracts, but Rahm doesn't have time for that shit. The union called them on it and now the tact lieutenants are about to have their responsibilities increased by a magnitude or so.

But all you day lieutenants reading this (and we know there are a few of you), you just dodged the NATO bullet. Now stick together and back your bargaining agent and show everyone else what it means to stick together. There's only 200 of so of you left.

First they squash free speech in the parks using a curfew ordinance. Okay fine.

Then a decades old city ordinance that allows the homeless to sleep on the sidewalks as long as they don't block the sidewalks is violated by NYPD and people are arrested for just sitting on the sidewalks.

Then, if free speech and the constitution is not under enough of an attack. Because NYC protestors found themselves a home to exercise their constitutional rights 24/7 on a piece of federal property known as Federal Hall, the birthplace of the bill of rights. His royal highness of NYC once again changed the law.

Now, the Federal Hall has a designated "Free Speech Zone" whereas only 25 people are allowed to exercise their rights along with a long list of restrictions. Including talking too loud.

You don't think that the same change the law to suit their needs tactics are not going to be used on everyone's union contracts and pensions?

Just watch and see baby. You see the M/O wake up. After NATO be prepared for the: "these cuts are necessary to save.."

But all you day lieutenants reading this (and we know there are a few of you), you just dodged the NATO bullet. Now stick together and back your bargaining agent and show everyone else what it means to stick together. There's only 200 of so of you left.___________________________________

yep STICK TOGETHER !! BUT, for your poor sap of a V.P. the jag , D-bag Lt from 013 D.S. HOW DOES IT FEEL TO GET SCREWED DEAN ??? you're not liking it to much are you you POS !! IF you're behind this throwing the book at the city and fighting for what is right, you should heed your own advice. to bad you burned your own bridge in and from your own district from your own troops. I'm sure the troops from 013 would love to see you get screwed just like you've screwed them all. as far as the Lt's city wide. we back you all because after all you are the police like the rest of those in blue shirts but this jag bag of a vp you have for your Lt's association.... they could care less.......... FY YOU BABY!

Da city dunt needz nos stinkin contracts! The Racoon is a Democrat union buster. As far as he is concerned we can all go wipe our asses with contracts. This sneaky conniving bastard will find a way around anything you think up or have in writing.

Oh my G-d is 1860 the most hated man in the department? I can't read a post without some reference being made about this stroke. Where there is smoke there is fire. What a legend he is building about himself must make the family proud...From dumping long serving Sergeants,P.O's to political hacks being positioned beyond their competence level (can I get a Gyro). This guy runs the spectrum of whats wrong with the department. Oh well, at least it's entertaining for the rest of the police who live in the real world to watch. Keep the the comedy of errors coming.

Our FOP contract states that bidded desk officers won't work the street. Does this mean the bidded desk officers on 2nd watch in each district don't have to go to NATO?

Section 23.9 — Filling Unit Duty Assignments.

A successful bidder may not be reassigned except for (1) emergencies for the duration of the emergency, (2) for just cause, (3) where the Superintendent determines that the officer’s continued assignment would interfere with the officer’s effectiveness in that assignment, or (4) temporary unit duty assignments for operational needs, provided the Employer shall not fill the vacated unit duty assignment.

So, in answer to your question....yes, there is a damn good chance you will go.

Speaking of contracts- where the fuck is Pres Shields? Why the hell was the city allowed to cancel all 5b's without a fight? Where is our equipment for NATO? Did you see those pockets calendars with Mike Shields name on them? Check dog 1 in July, the days are wrong!!! Shields you moron!!! Why the hell are they restricting time due after a judge ruled they could not??? This a fucking joke- fuck this job! Funny, our helmets don't have shields and we don't have Shields- everyone can kiss my fuzzy white ass !!!!!!!!!

Sergeant will soon be the highest rank in district patrol . After more merit captains xo's are promoted to command staff or a unit,Lts will soon be the 3rd watch XO in District Patrol .Rahm knows the Deskm Sgt ran most watches while the Lt and Captain did little . Sgt. is the most important rank on the street , for years few districts had a field lt.

Anonymous said...Our FOP contract states that bidded desk officers won't work the street. Does this mean the bidded desk officers on 2nd watch in each district don't have to go to NATO?

4/26/2012 03:07:00 AM

Now go read and COMPREHEND that section of the contract. There's a little thing called "manpower needs" that the city/department can use to drag your old ass away from that circa 1950s desk and lujack you out onto the mean streets if the need arises. Good thing for you though?? It's grieveable and very winnable (Ive successfully gotten paid for the very same thing many moons ago) because the city is too fucking dumb to ever implement these things per the contract wording. So suit up, do the bare minimum out in the field for a week or so and enjoy the difference of time-and-a-half for every day you were removed from the desk once your grievance is won. But one thing is very important: you have to actually fill out the grievance when you're harmed and submit it thru the proper channels. Don't be a p***y like the big talkers in my district who say theyre going to grieve being an acting D/S, then just proceed to sit back and let the department stick it in their ass. Don't let these idiots diminish whats contractually protected, it ain't personal, just business. It'll be a nice extra check when it's all said and done, just make sure to document it properly.

Contract? what contract?? do you think we're actually going be presented with a contract?? with all thats going on with the new city disfunct leaders that we're getting a fair and respectable contract?? LMAO!! The only one's that are going to benefit from anything here in the city is Rahm-Bozo the clown and HER fluzzies, time to wake up PO's we ain't getting crap and gona loose a whole lot. I sure wish we all could be on the same page and voice our concerns together but wishful thinking.

Assign the new XO's to go down with their troops. Now would be a great time for them to show the department how good of a leader they are and that their decision to make them XO was justified....that or watch them fall flat on their faces! Im thinking the latter

Eliminate captains and lieutenants. Make sergeants handle their workload. Hire more police and promote more detectives and sergeants. We don't need all these top heavy, money sucking ranks in the department. Too many chiefs, not enough Indians.

Now go read and COMPREHEND that section of the contract. There's a little thing called "manpower needs" that the city/department can use to drag your old ass away from that circa 1950s desk and lujack you out onto the mean streets if the need arises. Good thing for you though?? It's grieveable and very winnable (Ive successfully gotten paid for the very same thing many moons ago) because the city is too fucking dumb to ever implement these things per the contract wording. So suit up, do the bare minimum out in the field for a week or so and enjoy the difference of time-and-a-half for every day you were removed from the desk once your grievance is won. But one thing is very important: you have to actually fill out the grievance when you're harmed and submit it thru the proper channels. Don't be a p***y like the big talkers in my district who say theyre going to grieve being an acting D/S, then just proceed to sit back and let the department stick it in their ass. Don't let these idiots diminish whats contractually protected, it ain't personal, just business. It'll be a nice extra check when it's all said and done, just make sure to document it properly.

- North Side Desk King

4/26/2012 08:50:00 AM

Don't ever think the city is "dumb," especially under the current administration. All they do is crunch the numbers and see what will cost them less. If paying out for a grievance costs less, then they will. In the meantime, they get what they want. Paying grievances is still cheaper than hiring people.

Guys making $100k+ a year are also entitled to time and a half + overtime for doing their jobs in another location?

Any other taxpayers around here feel like we're getting fleeced?

Outrageous. Absolutely outrageous.

4/26/2012 01:58:00 PMLet me give you a little history. More than a few times the city let the rank of Lt. dwindle and then promoted a big group.. In an effort to try to force the city's hand at keeping the rank close to budgeted numbers, this was negotiated. By keeping the numbers as close to full strength as possible. there would be no need to detail Lts. The thought was that it would be a monetary incentive for the city to promote in a timely fashion. The main reason was not about the money, it was about proper staffing. The money was the means to achieve that. So don't cry about the Lts. getting the money. The city agreed to it so they also had to see the advantage to operating with the proper numbers in each rank. And for every Sgt. promoted to Lt., another PO gets promoted to Sgt. Win win for all.

Anonymous said...Speaking of contracts- where the fuck is Pres Shields? Why the hell was the city allowed to cancel all 5b's without a fight? Where is our equipment for NATO? Did you see those pockets calendars with Mike Shields name on them? Check dog 1 in July, the days are wrong!!! Shields you moron!!! Why the hell are they restricting time due after a judge ruled they could not??? This a fucking joke- fuck this job! Funny, our helmets don't have shields and we don't have Shields- everyone can kiss my fuzzy white ass !!!!!!!!!

4/26/2012 07:49:00 AM

Seriously, retard? The 5b Class action furlough grievance is set for 5/7/12, and FOP won't roll over and take it in the dumper like the sergeants did. Why don't you sign your name so FOP can use you as a witness? Oh, cuz you probably never requested a 5th period furlough but just want to get on this blog and bitch about stuff you clearly know nothing about. STFU, loser.

one way mfr oneil sold out lts to make capt , sold out capt for his command spot commander of 10 - 15 police officers , tricked captains into voting for xo he had merit captains bend over and forgot to use kyhe could care less about anyoneunion leader sellout

Oh my G-d is 1860 the most hated man in the department? I can't read a post without some reference being made about this stroke. Where there is smoke there is fire. What a legend he is building about himself must make the family proud...From dumping long serving Sergeants,P.O's to political hacks being positioned beyond their competence level (can I get a Gyro). This guy runs the spectrum of whats wrong with the department. Oh well, at least it's entertaining for the rest of the police who live in the real world to watch. Keep the the comedy of errors coming.

4/26/2012 07:44:00 AM

I love hearing the girls in 018 crying. I can't tell which is more annoying, that Lady Ga Ga skank or the whiners in 018.

there was a time the democratic party was pro union. they still insist there on your side. what they dont say is, its on their terms. sign all the contracts you want, its on their terms. the true power a union has is at the ballot box. but that has to be unified membership. name calling and bitching dont get it.

Eliminate captains and lieutenants. Make sergeants handle their workload. Hire more police and promote more detectives and sergeants. We don't need all these top heavy, money sucking ranks in the department. Too many chiefs, not enough Indians.

4/26/2012 11:59:00 AM

OK. Who makes the call between Sgt's when the commander is not around? There isn't enough Lt's. the Captain rank could be shit canned. The real problem is the amount of chiefs, dep chiefs, directors, etc.

NATO will bring many TV & news cameras to be in Chicago. Too bad the hair gels will be wearing their caps and helmets, unable to sport their doos for the millions of viewers. The next Justin Bieber could have been amongst us.

OK. Who makes the call between Sgt's when the commander is not around? There isn't enough Lt's. the Captain rank could be shit canned. The real problem is the amount of chiefs, dep chiefs, directors, etc.

4/26/2012 08:15:00 PM

The "Station Supervisor"???? Wasn't that the whole point of this Station supervisor crap? half the time there's no lt's in the station and a sgt is in charge acting as the SS.

"Seriously, retard? The 5b Class action furlough grievance is set for 5/7/12, and FOP won't roll over and take it in the dumper like the sergeants did. Why don't you sign your name so FOP can use you as a witness? Oh, cuz you probably never requested a 5th period furlough but just want to get on this blog and bitch about stuff you clearly know nothing about. STFU, loser."

You know everyone seems to be lambasting the Lt's union by what is being said they seem to be the only union fighting for their rights. They fought for the tact Lt's who were being detailed from watch to watch and disrict to district. They are fighting for W/C out of grade, that very well will affect Sgts doing station supe duties. Now you say they are fighting the out of area bid assignments for NATO. I wish my FOP was fighting that hard. I'm behind their efforts and I hope they win.

assign one xo or lt to and area on all watches to be the tie breaker for sgt disputesevery ppo and copper with more than 5years on the job knows that district sgts do 99% of work in patrol divisionget the xo's and lts out of the districts and assigned to areas

Hey 4/26/2012 11:59:00 AM FUCK YOU!. "Eliminate captains and lieutenants. Make sergeants handle their workload. Hire more police and promote more detectives and sergeants. We don't need all these top heavy, money sucking ranks in the department. Too many chiefs, not enough Indians." So the only work that gets done is by you right? Everyone else is just a slug that should take their lead from you and it will be all good. You are a cocky jagoff that can't even fathom the concept of leadership and teamwork. You are exactly the jagoff that causes every sergeant, lieutenant and captain to dread some of the people they supervise. When they get on your ass, it’s because of YOU. Yea some are assholes, but you are the same asshole to some of them.

>>>Anonymous said... Eliminate captains and lieutenants. Make sergeants handle their workload. Hire more police and promote more detectives and sergeants. We don't need all these top heavy, money sucking ranks in the department. Too many chiefs, not enough Indians.

4/26/2012 11:59:00 AM<<<

Are you one of Rahm's Trolls or some cop who know he is too stupid to ever pass a promotion exam.

Either way go screw yourself, Rahm and Garry too.

Try and run an organization where you have to order people to go in harms way with no chain of command. Just dump to work and responsibility of command on down the line with no pay raise, no working for the promotion, not even a promotion party and a new baton with red or silver tassels. No incentives to be the best, to get ahead and to have pride in your work. Geeze but I hate it when people have forgotten what it was like to be the police.