Please use this thread to discuss on topics of "Sri Lanka Military Aviation".

skyline

24-07-2011, 12:06 AM

Maiden Landing at New Kilinochchi Airstrip

A Y12 aircraft of the Sri Lanka Air Force (SLAF) made the inaugural landing at the newly constructed airstrip located in Kilinochchi, a former LTTE stronghold. The landing took place today (July 19, 2011) by an SLAF Y-12 Aircraft piloted by Wing Commander Sarika Aranayake and Squadron Leader Dharshana Dias in the presence of the Commander of the Air Force Air Marshal Harsha Abeywickrama....... more on ... http://www.airforce.lk/news.php?news=754

Max

07-08-2011, 06:04 AM

US fighter jets intrude into Sri Lanka Air space: Breaking News

F-18 jets to be from the Seventh Fleet

Sri Lankan government will protest to the United States over the intrusion of Sri Lanka’s air space by a squadron of ten fighter jets.

The protest will be handed over to the US Embassy in Colombo by the Ministry of External Affairs.

“What we are trying to establish is whether the US fighter jets had violated the oceanic air space or the territorial part of it,” Civil Aviation Director Genera H. M. C. Nimalsiri told the Sunday Times yesterday.

“In terms of accepted international norms, anyone wanting to use the country’s air space is required to file flight plans and obtain prior approval,” he said.

A senior Sri Lanka Air Force official speaking on grounds of anonymity admitted that there were periodic incursions by US fighter jets into Sri Lanka’s air space. “There were occasions where we had to tell them to move out,” he said.

“We have communication intercepts to confirm that they were carrier-based aircraft. In this instance we have reason to believe that the jet squadron was from the US Seventh Fleet,” he said.

The tracking station from Pidurutalagala -- the tallest point in Sri Lanka -- was the first to identify the intruding US aircraft. Officials there immediately conveyed it to the Civil Aviation Authority and the Sri Lanka Air Force.

The tracking station with modern radar equipment with a range of 200 nautical miles and covers 380 kilometres of airspace.

A US embassy spokesperson declined to comment yesterday.

http://sundaytimes.lk/110807/News/nws_01.html

Max

07-08-2011, 12:42 PM

First we need to protect our air space

Sri Lanka's foreign ministry plans to protest to the United States after fighter jets intruded into the island's airspace last week, the local Sunday Times newspaper said.

The squadron of 10 fighter jets, believed to be from the US Seventh Fleet, had not filed a flight plan before flying into Sri Lankan territory during a training exercise last week.

The intrusion was detected by Sri Lanka Air Force personnel, who were monitoring the island's air defence system.

"We believe is a procedural violation not a deliberate intrusion," a senior air force official who declined to be named told AFP. "There were instances where we told them to move out of our airspace."

The Sunday Times said the External Affairs Ministry planned to hand a protest note to the US embassy in Colombo.

More than 300 military members from the Royal Australian Air Force, the Sri Lankan Air Force, the Royal Malaysian Air Force and the U.S. Air Force gathered together, Aug. 22, for the start of Pacific Airlift Rally 2011, a Pacific Air Force sponsored, biennial multilateral tactical military airlift symposium held in Colombo, Sri Lanka......... http://www.dvidshub.net/news/75795/pacific-airlift-rally-starts-sri-lanka

skyline

26-08-2011, 07:54 PM

PACIFIC AIRLIFT RALLY 2011

Gallery : http://www.airforce.lk/par2011/gallery.php

Serendib

28-08-2011, 11:56 AM

SL Airforce Plane Makes Emergency Landing in Chennai

A Sri Lankan Air Force plane today landed under emergency conditions at the Anna International Airport here following a technical fault, airport officials said.

The aircraft, proceeding from Colombo to Visakhapatnam, was carrying seven Sri Lankan soldiers when it developed a problem mid-air, following which it landed here at 8.15 am, they said.

http://news.outlookindia.com/item.aspx?732804

CaptIndula

30-09-2011, 11:24 PM

Sri Lanka Air Force brings down 2 Xian MA60 aircrafts out of its order of 4. Mihin Lanka will also bring down 2 aircrafts later on.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/301196_10150392147295639_638545638_10439420_697040 271_n.jpg

Traffic Police Headquarters says that special attention is being paid to use helicopters for the control of traffic in the city of Colombo.
Even though this is an expensive system to control traffic, this method is used by the developed countries of the world, to identify and ease heavy traffic on the roads, police say.

Police also says that, the assistance from Air force will be obtained for this task. These reports further says that,the assistance of C.C.T.V. camera systems are already being obtained to control Traffic in the city of Colombo.

Traffic Police Headquarters says that special attention is being paid to use helicopters for the control of traffic in the city of Colombo.
Even though this is an expensive system to control traffic, this method is used by the developed countries of the world, to identify and ease heavy traffic on the roads, police say.

Police also says that, the assistance from Air force will be obtained for this task. These reports further says that,the assistance of C.C.T.V. camera systems are already being obtained to control Traffic in the city of Colombo.

In mid-July 2012, Russia’s Rosoboronexport announced an order from Sri Lanka for another 14 Mi-171 helicopters, to be built at the Ulan-Ude plant. The SLAF started operating Mi-17s in 1993, and the current fleet of 13-18 machines equips No. 6 Helicopter Squadron at Anuradhapura, in north-central Sri Lanka.

The additional buy is part of a $300 million, 10-year loan to buy equipment for Sri Lanka’s military, which was signed during a 2012 state visit to Russia. Why buy more helicopters? SLAF spokesman Group Captain Andrew Wijesuriya told Reuters they were buying them for civilian tourism. Oddly enough, that’s probably at least partly true…

Sri Lanka’s air force does operate an effort called Helitours, which uses the SLAF’s array of Huey, Jet Ranger and Mi-17 helicopters, as well as its Chinese Y-12 and Ukranian AN-32B fixed-wing transports. It’s more about short-haul transport than sightseeing tours, but the government’s full victory over the Tamil Tigers is expected to open the island for more tourism, as well as other economic activity. Repurposing the SLAF to support that expansion is politically shrewd, and makes extra funds available to the military now that major hostilities are over.

Having said all that, it’s also true that transport helicopters are critical to counterinsurgency efforts, and the Mi-17s can be armed. The exact version wasn’t specified, but even civil-certified M-171A1s can be militarized to carry weapons later, as Mi-171Sh variants are delivered ready for that role.

Russia and China were instrumental in Sri Lanka’s “Rajapaksa model” of dealing with its insurgency, and provided political cover at world forums like the UN. Even more important, they provided a significant quantity of weaponry and support without any human rights conditions, or threats of embargo. That backing, in turn, allowed Sri Lanka’s government to unleash the full might of its military against the Tamil Tigers, smashing through their strongholds and towns en route to the final battle near Putumattalan.

Both China and Russia continue to remain very active in Sri Lanka. china’s centerpiece is a massive construction effort to built a port at Hambanthota, which will serve as a way-station for commercial traffic to Africa, and will also be capable of hosting warships. The announcement of latest deal between Russia and Sri Lanka, meanwhile, comes as Sri Lanka this week discussed exploration and development of its natural gas resources with Russia’s Gazprom, who has been doing some exploration in the area.

The additional buy is part of a $300 million, 10-year loan to buy equipment for Sri Lanka’s military, which was signed during a 2012 state visit to Russia. Why buy more helicopters? SLAF spokesman Group Captain Andrew Wijesuriya told Reuters they were buying them for civilian tourism. Oddly enough, that’s probably at least partly true…

I know SLAF has a few MI-17s for Military Transport and one or two MI-17s for VIP transport. However the shape of the MI-17 is more suitable for Military Transport than the Civilian Tourism. Correct me If I'am wrong ?

I know SLAF has a few MI-17s for Military Transport and one or two MI-17s for VIP transport. However the shape of the MI-17 is more suitable for Military Transport than the Civilian Tourism. Correct me If I'am wrong ?

when will the MA 60's start to come down ? considering none of the operators are pleased with the field performance or uptime ..

There is two MA 60s in a nearbe place, both are spending half their time in the hanger .. serviced by Chinese engineers, considering the manuals and all, possibly translated by Google Translate, have stolen the real meaning of the words ..

That is on top of one that decided to loose power on take off and skidded off the runway ..

Cayman

14-08-2012, 03:34 PM

when will the MA 60's start to come down ? considering none of the operators are pleased with the field performance or uptime ..

There is two MA 60s in a nearbe place, both are spending half their time in the hanger .. serviced by Chinese engineers, considering the manuals and all, possibly translated by Google Translate, have stolen the real meaning of the words ..

That is on top of one that decided to loose power on take off and skidded off the runway ..

Assuming that 'come down' means delivery and not the literal meaning of the word :) I think at least one of them have already been delivered, because a MA-60 wearing the SLAF colors has been spotted flying around RML.

Going by the picture posted above, it appears that both have been delivered.

Very poor choice of an aircraft though.

We should give at least a few more years for the Chinese to copy the A320 and come up with their own version at one tenth the price. To be fair to them, they just started assembling them there.

ecureilx

15-08-2012, 07:45 AM

Assuming that 'come down' means delivery and not the literal meaning of the word :) I think at least one of them have already been delivered, because a MA-60 wearing the SLAF colors has been spotted flying around RML.

Going by the picture posted above, it appears that both have been delivered.

Very poor choice of an aircraft though.

We should give at least a few more years for the Chinese to copy the A320 and come up with their own version at one tenth the price. To be fair to them, they just started assembling them there.

I actually meant literally :D

And as I said, one of the MA60s, I see every other month, near here, is a permanent hanger queen

And the operators is having more uptime with the ancient DHC-7s

The good thing about the MA 60 is the engines - PWC, and that's about it ..

The reason why MA 60s get picked up, is, China Aviation is trying to get a foot hold and virtually gifting them away, well, not gifting, but with the kind of payment, it is a virtual gift..

Cayman

15-08-2012, 10:01 AM

Ha ha.. I get you now.

If you look at the other operators of the aircraft, you will see that SLAF is one of a very few operator with a credibility. Others having appalling safety records. Hopefully, SLAF frames will not fall out of the sky (god-forbid) due to maintenance issues.

Praetorian

15-08-2012, 08:49 PM

Ha ha.. I get you now.

If you look at the other operators of the aircraft, you will see that SLAF is one of a very few operator with a credibility. Others having appalling safety records. Hopefully, SLAF frames will not fall out of the sky (god-forbid) due to maintenance issues.

SLAF has a brilliant record regarding aircraft maintenance. If my memory is right only 3 aircraft have come down due to technical faults;

1 Antov transport/Chinese variant Y-8(?)

1 Bell helicopter in 2007 (at the time the LTTE attacked the Anuradhapura Air base). I think this bird was rushed into the air and sadly we lost two greater assets then the helicopter, our brilliant pilots to which you cannot put a price tag.

1 Mi-24 also hit the ground some time in 2009 or 2010, thankfully no loss of life.

It is very heart warming to know that the SLAF maintain such brilliant and high standards, on par with the worlds best air forces and our engineering boys are excellent in their adaptation and skill, especially when you consider the limited resources coupled to the work load (regarding the war). It’s also further sweetening when you consider the unwanted Elephant across the Straits has the worst record in history, in spite of all it's mammoth resources :D ;)

ecureilx

16-08-2012, 08:27 AM

Praetorian: the concern about the MA 60 is NOT about SLAF's maintenance .. the planes are essentially a re-mix of AN24, not even the AN32

And one of the operator who had a few un-comanded response in their MA 60.. is very meticulous in their operations ..

Praetorian

16-08-2012, 01:42 PM

Praetorian: the concern about the MA 60 is NOT about SLAF's maintenance .. the planes are essentially a re-mix of AN24, not even the AN32

And one of the operator who had a few un-comanded response in their MA 60.. is very meticulous in their operations ..

I never said it was about SLAF's maintenance, i took the opportunity to praise the high skill and excellent track record of SLAFs maintenance.

The fact they are keeping the MA 60's grounded illustrates the SLAFs high standards.

ecureilx

17-08-2012, 07:24 AM

and this is where I differ .. the fact they accept Ma 60's shows something is falling apart now ..... or chinese salesmen are getting better .. nuff said ..

SLAF has a brilliant record regarding aircraft maintenance. If my memory is right only 3 aircraft have come down due to technical faults;

1 Antov transport/Chinese variant Y-8(?)

1 Bell helicopter in 2007 (at the time the LTTE attacked the Anuradhapura Air base). I think this bird was rushed into the air and sadly we lost two greater assets then the helicopter, our brilliant pilots to which you cannot put a price tag.

1 Mi-24 also hit the ground some time in 2009 or 2010, thankfully no loss of life.

It is very heart warming to know that the SLAF maintain such brilliant and high standards, on par with the worlds best air forces and our engineering boys are excellent in their adaptation and skill, especially when you consider the limited resources coupled to the work load (regarding the war). It’s also further sweetening when you consider the unwanted Elephant across the Straits has the worst record in history, in spite of all it's mammoth resources :D ;)

Haleef! Thanks for the information and pictures! Most of the countries are using MI-17 for Military purposes. Unfortunately countries like North Korea, Sri Lanka ... using it for civilian use. Any idea how many of these MI-17s are now with SLAF ?

The burning thing has something to do with the alloys used by the manufacturer .. plus the location of the Fuel Tank

in a nearby country, one of the civil Mi-17's clipped a cable and crashed, all pax rolled out alive and they had the previlege of seeing the barely damaged chopper go up in flames, all over in less than 30 minutes .. and nothing for the investigators to see ..

with the pronounced nose-down attitude, the Mils are thrill rides .. of course ..

Haleef

21-05-2013, 10:14 AM

Haleef! Thanks for the information and pictures! Most of the countries are using MI-17 for Military purposes. Unfortunately countries like North Korea, Sri Lanka ... using it for civilian use. Any idea how many of these MI-17s are now with SLAF ?

I think they are used mainly for VIP and also for droping parachutes and cargo operations!

migara

22-05-2013, 07:55 PM

yea! there is also a variant of the copter called the Mi-172 for civillian use, based out of the MI-8MTV.

Well what you gotta realize is that these are USSR designed & manufactured machines... built for rugged use and not for safe & comfortable VIP missions or even for that matter to use them for civilian transport operations again which all depends on the level of regulations held upon these copters and their operations by the CAASL. Since SLAF utilized most of these Mi-17s for the war and now some of them are being converted to VIP travel purposes, I really don’t see the safety factor behind them. Then again if the SLAF has done its job with proper MX and what not to make sure they are safer for civilian use- (Without cutting any corners on safety)….. Sure deal, why not use them!

My personnel outlook on these “Hips” are that they do not look like proper civilian used copters! Two of these flying around kinda gives out a impression that there is a invasion taking place…haha

SpookyFlyer

03-06-2013, 07:51 AM

Six Russian helicopters reached SriLanka

Six MI-171 helicopters from Russia reached Colombo last week.
SriLanka purchase 14 helicopters according to the corresponding contract for supplying the helicopters will be carried out on account of the Russian state credit 350 billion US$ given to Sri Lanka by Russia in 2010 for purchasing Russian armaments.
Among the 14, six helicopters brought up to Colombo.
Two AN 124 helicopters carried three helicopters each.
Two Mi 171-E VIP helicopters were also among them. This helicopter includes satalight facilities. According to the sources 8 passengers will be able to travel in this and it would be use for the transportation activities of Lankan president.
Furthermore four Mi 171 – SH helicopters handed over to SriLankan navy.
Russian engineers and technicians have visited to SriLanka provide technical assistance to Lankan personals to operate the helicopters.

Six MI-171 helicopters from Russia reached Colombo last week.
SriLanka purchase 14 helicopters according to the corresponding contract for supplying the helicopters will be carried out on account of the Russian state credit 350 billion US$ given to Sri Lanka by Russia in 2010 for purchasing Russian armaments.
Among the 14, six helicopters brought up to Colombo.
Two AN 124 helicopters carried three helicopters each.
Two Mi 171-E VIP helicopters were also among them. This helicopter includes satalight facilities. According to the sources 8 passengers will be able to travel in this and it would be use for the transportation activities of Lankan president.
Furthermore four Mi 171 – SH helicopters handed over to SriLankan navy.
Russian engineers and technicians have visited to SriLanka provide technical assistance to Lankan personals to operate the helicopters.

The aircraft which was due to evacuate 35 Sri Lankan students from Nepal developed engine trouble that forced the aircraft to abort take off and return to the parking area of the busy airport of the landlocked nation.

Official sources said an air force from another South Asian nation offered to ferry spare parts to repair the Sri Lankan air force C130 so that it could fly back probably tomorrow or the day after.

The aircraft had planned another sortie on Monday along with an aircraft of SriLankan Airlines which was to take about 180 doctors and nursing staff who had volunteered to join the internationally-backed relief operation.

Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe said at a public meeting in Colombo that the Nepali authorities had allocated a town some 40 kilometres away from the capital to base Sri Lankan relief workers.

The prime minister said he had been told that the birth place of the Buddha, Lumbini, had been spared the destruction of the massive 7.8 magnitude earthquake and after shocks which have claimed more than 2,200 lives according to an official count by Sunday afternoon.

"We consider this an earth quake that hit us because it is in the birth place of the Buddha," Wickremesinghe said. "We will make sure that we will rebuild the city that has been allocated to us."

A bit of shame! How many C130 are currently operating for Sri Lanka Airforce? Any idea Sri Lanka Airforce is still operating those old Antonovs? I think Sri Lanka Airforce need some good aircraft in the fleet and they have to give good maintanance for these C130s.

Haleef

27-04-2015, 08:51 AM

A bit of shame! How many C130 are currently operating for Sri Lanka Airforce? Any idea Sri Lanka Airforce is still operating those old Antonovs? I think Sri Lanka Airforce need some good aircraft in the fleet and they have to give good maintanance for these C130s.

Indeed! How shame for a reliable aircraft to have a technical fault :/. Currently there is only 1 C 130 operating for Sri Lanka Airforce. Sri Lanka Airforce still operates the Antonovs, but now they are all grounded after the crash, but after the investigation they will start flying. Yes, SLAF needs to have some good aircrafts and they use the parts from the other C 130 which they have with them (obviously that is no longer flying.)

ecureilx

28-04-2015, 06:18 AM

i believe it's not about how new the C130s are, its about maintenance and preventive maintenance

Singapore flies the B and H models, and have no issues, as they spend a lot of time on maintenance

I would really like to know if the SLAF 130 took off with MEL'd items.

ecureilx

28-04-2015, 06:19 AM

A bit of shame! How many C130 are currently operating for Sri Lanka Airforce? Any idea Sri Lanka Airforce is still operating those old Antonovs? I think Sri Lanka Airforce need some good aircraft in the fleet and they have to give good maintanance for these C130s.

SLAF had two 130K I think.

NeatStuff

28-04-2015, 08:49 AM

SLAF had two 130K I think.

This is correct, ex tankers of the RAF refurbished and bought I think in the early 2000's.

Srilankan1

28-04-2015, 02:18 PM

C 130 Back in Colombo.

http://static.lankadeepa.lk/admin/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/150.jpg

banuthev

09-05-2015, 07:55 PM

C 130 Back in Colombo.

Is it true C130 faced a technical issue when it fly from Pakistan to Sri Lanka ?

http://picresize.com/images/rsz_wpid-c130k_sch3401.jpg

SLAF Aircraft Makes Emergency Landing
A special aircraft, belonging to the Sri Lanka defence forces, carrying eight horses from Pakistan to Sri Lanka made an emergency landing at the Pune International Airport on Thursday due to a technical snag. Intelligence agencies and police swung into action within minutes and the horses and their Pakistani handlers were stationed at the Pune Race Course, Indian Express reported.
As per the information given by sources from the Pune airport’s security division, the eight horses were being sent to Colombo from Islamabad as part of a friendly exchange between the Pakistan Army and Sri Lanka Army. The engine of the C-130 military transport aircraft developed a snag mid-air and the plane had to make an emergency landing at the airport around midnight.
Sources said eight horses bred in Pakistan, eight personnel from the Sri Lanka defence forces, four horse handlers, who are citizens of Pakistan, and a Pakistan Army officer were on board. A team comprising personnel from the intelligence bureau, military intelligence, airport security and local police spoke to those on board and recorded their statements.
A senior police officer, who did not wish to be named, said, “The horses and their handlers were moved to Pune Race Course. They will be stationed there till the snag is rectified. The members of the Sri Lankan team have been stationed at a hotel in Balewadi. We have been told that some spare parts of the engine of this transport aircraft will be flown to Pune by another aircraft and these personnel and horses will be in Pune till the problem is resolved. It might take another day.” Sources from intelligence agencies said their team was pressed into action as there were a lot of ‘questions marks’ about the incident.

Is it true C130 faced a technical issue when it fly from Pakistan to Sri Lanka ?

http://picresize.com/images/rsz_wpid-c130k_sch3401.jpg

Shame! My favorite bird of SLAF are the two C-130s :/

Randy

11-05-2015, 06:47 PM

Our two C130s are more than 40 years old.Only one is operational.Its time to buy new C130. New Government have good relationship with US and Western Countries,So now this is the time get use of it.

Godofpower

31-12-2015, 01:52 PM

Does anyone know if this is true?
http://www.dailymirror.lk/101315/aircraft-sale-to-sl

banuthev

31-12-2015, 03:22 PM

Does anyone know if this is true?
http://www.dailymirror.lk/101315/aircraft-sale-to-sl

Is JF17 the good aircraft for our SLAF?
Has anyone know the what type of aircraft operating in SLAF fleet? and How many?

Godofpower

31-12-2015, 05:29 PM

Is JF17 the good aircraft for our SLAF?
Has anyone know the what type of aircraft operating in SLAF fleet? and How many?

Well JF-17 is kind of based on F-7 which is used by SLAF
Its low cost but it can do everything from Air to Air, Ground attack and Anti-Ship.

Cayman

31-12-2015, 06:25 PM

Well JF-17 is kind of based on F-7 which is used by SLAF
Its low cost but it can do everything from Air to Air, Ground attack and Anti-Ship.

JF-17 is based on the Chinese Chengdu F-7 which SLAF has used before (or are still using).

USAF never used F-7, other than for evaluation (target practice)

LukeSkywalker

06-01-2016, 05:35 AM

JF-17 is based on the Chinese Chengdu F-7 which SLAF has used before (or are still using).

USAF never used F-7, other than for evaluation (target practice)

Most of the Pakistani dailys are claiming today (6\1\16) that SL has signed for 8 JF-17s during the Pakistani PM visit to SL.

Does anyone local know if there are any follow up batches or if any technology transfer is involved?

Wiki lists a block 2 JF-17 at 28 Million US $, getting a second hand F-16 from air force that has them on storage might have been cheaper (and an older F-16 would probably be technically better than the JF-17 anyway, the Pakistani air force regard their F-16 as their front line fighter, and some were bought second hand IIRC).

Any Air force guys on the forum? Any inkling to as why JF-17 was chosen?

Cayman

06-01-2016, 07:09 AM

Any Air force guys on the forum? Any inkling to as why JF-17 was chosen?

I have no information regarding the veracity of the claim that SLAF has in fact signed up to buy JF-17.

However, my educated guess as to going with Chinese / Pakistani product could be rooted in the past experience during the war with LTTE, when the Westerns countries by and large refused to provide any military hardware.

Pakistan was a staunch ally of Sri Lanka at the time and an extremely reliable partner for hardware procurement.

SLAF strategists must be highlighting the risks of committing to a US product (F-16s) even if they come cheaper with potentially better technology.

Perhaps, in their mind inferior technology at their disposal is better than superior technology which may or may not be available when needed.

Also Pakistani Prime Minister along with a delegation took off for Kandy on two SLAF MI 17 VVIP Helicopters. Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif will visit the historic city of Kandy.

http://www.airforce.lk/news.php?news=2601

ejanson65

06-01-2016, 01:42 PM

However, my educated guess as to going with Chinese / Pakistani product could be rooted in the past experience during the war with LTTE, when the Westerns countries by and large refused to provide any military hardware.

We all know how "Business" is done in Sri Lanka...

This is nothing more than another "wealth transfer" of public funds to family, friends and cronies. This has nothing to do with SLAF requirements.

Remember the MiG deal?

dilushasg-bdavi

06-01-2016, 02:56 PM

SLAF needs new aircraft. SLAF has probably the oldest rust buckets flying around in the region. The outdated kFirs and MiG 27s which are the backbone of the current fleet require replacements.

ecureilx

07-01-2016, 07:27 AM

Most of the Pakistani dailys are claiming today (6\1\16) that SL has signed for 8 JF-17s during the Pakistani PM visit to SL.

Does anyone local know if there are any follow up batches or if any technology transfer is involved?

Wiki lists a block 2 JF-17 at 28 Million US $, getting a second hand F-16 from air force that has them on storage might have been cheaper (and an older F-16 would probably be technically better than the JF-17 anyway, the Pakistani air force regard their F-16 as their front line fighter, and some were bought second hand IIRC).

Any Air force guys on the forum? Any inkling to as why JF-17 was chosen?

There are better and cheaper alternates, than the 28 Million $ for the JF-17. With Russian Engines which last only that long.

Like the BAe Hawk or the equivalents.

I am not sure what's the need to get air defense fighters, while not saying you don't need fighters.

Reality is, if there is a war with any country nearby or far, the SLAF may be swamped very soon.

Alternate would be to keep the air force trim and tight with the likes of BAe Hawk or similar aircraft and keep the currency on COIN. And build on strategic air lift ability.

As for PAF considering JF 17 as front line, well, they have to, since it is the only operator and nobody wants to buy it. Though the F16 with the proven integration of weapons will give the JF 17 a good run for the money.

Technology transfer ? Again, transfer which technology ?

When times were bad, Russian and such planes were good, as they got the job done, for a cheaper purchase price but low reliability and less MTBF.

When there is no immediate need, focus should be on getting better equipment, with greater reliability.

That's my 2 cents.

LukeSkywalker

11-08-2016, 01:44 AM

http://www.dailymirror.lk/113921/Cabinet-approves-new-fighter-jets

Serendib

14-08-2016, 07:19 AM

http://www.dailymirror.lk/113921/Cabinet-approves-new-fighter-jets

I smell something fishy here!
The country is so much in debt, and the VAT was increased...

Suddenly what made the multi-role fighter jets a priority?

Randy

14-08-2016, 02:39 PM

Currently only 3 fighters (1 Kffir and 2 F7)are operational in Sri lanka air force and they all are vintage 2nd generation air crafts. I think this decision is late. Country is in debt, but this decision is much important rather than importing high luxury vehicles to politicians. Air Force need to maintain at least one squadron.

SL need to go for JF 17, MiG-29 SMT or Su 27.

dilushasg-bdavi

14-08-2016, 03:10 PM

Currently only 3 fighters (1 Kffir and 2 F7)are operational in Sri lanka air force and they all are vintage 2nd generation air crafts. I think this decision is late. Country is in debt, but this decision is much important rather than importing high luxury vehicles to politicians. Air Force need to maintain at least one squadron.

Sri Lanka will soon reach an agreement with Russia to get a new credit line of US$ 300 -400 million from that country to buy military equipment for the armed forces and the Sri Lanka police. The deal is to be finalized following the ongoing discussions between the Russian authorities and the Sri Lankan embassy officials in Russia, government sources said.

This seems to be happening in the background silently parallel to the 'international tender' to purchase multi role fighters. I am not sure if the 'tender' was just a ploy to appease our neighbours.

The credit line amount does not make sense for a new jets so I am not sure if the airforce is picking up refurbished ones if this is in fact for the aircraft deal. Hopefully it's the SU-30 or we will be going through 'aircraft is obsolete' cycle in a few years time.

Sri Lanka will soon reach an agreement with Russia to get a new credit line of US$ 300 -400 million from that country to buy military equipment for the armed forces and the Sri Lanka police. The deal is to be finalized following the ongoing discussions between the Russian authorities and the Sri Lankan embassy officials in Russia, government sources said.

This seems to be happening in the background silently parallel to the 'international tender' to purchase multi role fighters. I am not sure if the 'tender' was just a ploy to appease our neighbours.

The credit line amount does not make sense for a new jets so I am not sure if the airforce is picking up refurbished ones if this is in fact for the aircraft deal. Hopefully it's the SU-30 or we will be going through 'aircraft is obsolete' cycle in a few years time.

Could be Su-30 or upgraded versions of the Mig-29. The Mig-29SMT looks like a quite capable aircraft and cheaper than the Su-30.

Personally I hope this does go through. If we're going to buy jets anyway I'd much rather get Russian fighters than the JF-17 or Tejas.

LukeSkywalker

05-12-2016, 02:38 AM

Is this for real? Or just some partisan reporting by the Chinese media to drum up support for the Y-20?

China’s newly developed Xian Y-20 would be in contention if Sri Lanka is looking to buy more Chinese military transport craft, making it one of the first countries outside China to get the new plane. That would mark a new high for Sino-Sri Lankan relations that have been on the mend since Wickremesinghe’s government put the brakes on big-ticket Chinese projects soon after it came to...

Interestingly the PM has also mentioned China, India, Sweden and Russia have made offers, we are studying them for jet fighters. Not sure what the Swedish offer was, the new Gripen is quite costly compared to the other competitors, unless SAAB provided some lease option for older jets like the agreement with Hungary.

Randy

08-12-2016, 03:32 PM

I don't think its Y20. It should be two more MA 60 or Harbon Y 12. PM didn't mention the aircraft type though. Previously there are several reports about SL is gonna buy two used modified C130 (http://www.slguardian.org/2016/06/sri-lanka-air-force-re-marshalling-of-the-c-130k-scam/) but government postponed that plan due to cost, then how we gonna buy Y20?? Y20 is like C17 Globemaster. I think it should be better SL would go for C130s.

About Fighter Jets, In this Budget debate PM mention that they are going to buy two squadrons of multi-role fighters for SLAF. Yeah Gripen is costly..! but it would be nice to see. I think they will choose all weather friend "Russia". Its great if they select SU30. ("Please don't choose Thejas "Lets pray :P )

Olympus

19-01-2017, 06:41 AM

Hey do u guys have any idea of any airshows that will be held to commemorate the anniversary of our airforce on 2nd March this year?

Haleef

19-01-2017, 08:52 AM

Hey do u guys have any idea of any airshows that will be held to commemorate the anniversary of our airforce on 2nd March this year?

Yes. The Air Force will be having their 66th Anniversary with an airshow for the Public. Will keep you posted on the confirmed dates. One of an air force friend of mine quoted that it might be on the 4th, 5th and 6th, but he isn't very much sure. This time they are hoping to have a grand ceremony as I heard :)

Haleef

05-02-2017, 05:44 AM

Happy 69th Independence Day Sri Lanka!

Enjoy the pictures of the Independence day flypast taken by me at Mount Lavinia beach and at Ratmalana airport :)
Please do not re-upload with my permission.

Sri Lanka Air Force will be commemorating their 66th Anniversary Celebrations on the 3rd, 4th and 5th of March 2017. That will be Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Opening ceremony will commence off with a parade and a flypast at the airport at Ratmalana, and that will only be held on the first day. The next days will consist of the airshow and many other displays, etc. Will keep everyone updated soon. :)

Olympus

05-02-2017, 08:11 AM

Hey do u guys have any idea of any airshows that will be held to commemorate the anniversary of our airforce on 2nd March this year?

Thanks for the update Haleef

LukeSkywalker

05-02-2017, 08:13 AM

Sri Lanka Air Force will be commemorating their 66th Anniversary Celebrations on the 3rd, 4th and 5th of March 2017. That will be Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Opening ceremony will commence off with a parade and a flypast at the airport at Ratmalana, and that will only be held on the first day. The next days will consist of the airshow and many other displays, etc. Will keep everyone updated soon. :)

Hi Haleef,

Based on the flypast on youtube (wasn't very clear), it looked like there was only one kfir and no mig 27s involved. Looks like we only have one operational fighter now?

Randy

05-02-2017, 02:24 PM

Based on the flypast on youtube (wasn't very clear), it looked like there was only one kfir and no mig 27s involved. Looks like we only have one operational fighter now?

There is a one F7 G flew also. So currently there are only 2 fighters are operational. Did you guys notice? There is not single Mi24 s flew this time. I think all of them are in the hangers of Hingurakgoda Air Force base. Hopefully in next independence day flypast we will see Mig29, SU 30 or JF17 if current Fighter procurement plan go ahead

Haleef

05-02-2017, 04:52 PM

Hi Haleef,

Based on the flypast on youtube (wasn't very clear), it looked like there was only one kfir and no mig 27s involved. Looks like we only have one operational fighter now?

Hello, sorry about the video. It was recorded by my mother, so sadly not much stabilisation in it, and also not all aircraft were recorded by her :/. There was actually only 1 Kfir which flew to the celebrations twice a round, and also ended the show along with the F-7GS aircraft. Sadly the Mig 27s weren't flying, as they are all grounded, and the Mig 27 squadron is no more active now. So sadly, you won't be able to find another Mig 27 in the air. Also I think only these two aircraft are still in operation.

Haleef

05-02-2017, 04:52 PM

There is a one F7 G flew also. So currently there are only 2 fighters are operational. Did you guys notice? There is not single Mi24 s flew this time. I think all of them are in the hangers of Hingurakgoda Air Force base. Hopefully in next independence day flypast we will see Mig29, SU 30 or JF17 if current Fighter procurement plan go ahead.

Mil Mi-24 helicopters all grounded.

banuthev

05-02-2017, 04:59 PM

Mil Mi-24 helicopters all grounded.

Are they not going to fly again ? If yes will they be scrapped?

banuthev

05-02-2017, 05:22 PM

Hello, sorry about the video. It was recorded by my mother, so sadly not much stabilisation in it, and also not all aircraft were recorded by her :/. There was actually only 1 Kfir which flew to the celebrations twice a round, and also ended the show along with the F-7GS aircraft. Sadly the Mig 27s weren't flying, as they are all grounded, and the Mig 27 squadron is no more active now. So sadly, you won't be able to find another Mig 27 in the air. Also I think only these two aircraft are still in operation.

Is it true one MiG-23UB trainer used only for training purposes for their MiG-27 fleet?

LukeSkywalker

06-02-2017, 12:57 AM

Hello, sorry about the video. It was recorded by my mother, so sadly not much stabilisation in it, and also not all aircraft were recorded by her :/. There was actually only 1 Kfir which flew to the celebrations twice a round, and also ended the show along with the F-7GS aircraft. Sadly the Mig 27s weren't flying, as they are all grounded, and the Mig 27 squadron is no more active now. So sadly, you won't be able to find another Mig 27 in the air. Also I think only these two aircraft are still in operation.

Thanks Haleef; seems to be a sad state of affairs. That's the problem with buying obsolete aircraft is it will be a short term advantage at best and when there is no parts or money everything will fall apart. I am not sure what's happening to the air force procurement other than confusing statements from different sections of the government similar to the UL saga. Hopefully this time at least they plan something with a longer term goal in mind.

Haleef

06-02-2017, 01:11 AM

Thanks Haleef; seems to be a sad state of affairs. That's the problem with buying obsolete aircraft is it will be a short term advantage at best and when there is no parts or money everything will fall apart. I am not sure what's happening to the air force procurement other than confusing statements from different sections of the government similar to the UL saga. Hopefully this time at least they plan something with a longer term goal in mind.

I think they have in mind of buying more Kfir jets, but I'm not sure..

Haleef

06-02-2017, 01:12 AM

Is it true one MiG-23UB trainer used only for training purposes for their MiG-27 fleet?

Correct. But I think even the airworthiness of the Mig-23 has also gone, and I'm not sure of whether it still is in use.

Haleef

06-02-2017, 01:13 AM

Are they not going to fly again ? If yes will they be scrapped?

I don't think they will fly again :/

Randy

07-02-2017, 12:13 PM

I don't think they will fly again :/

Since SLAF don't need Mi24s for their current operations, there is no use of maintaining them in operational. So they should probably keep them in hangers as reserves with only mandatory maintaining. If there is any necessary, they can be take them to operational condition within short time period.

LukeSkywalker

07-02-2017, 10:03 PM

Since SLAF don't need Mi24s for their current operations, there is no use of maintaining them in operational. So they should probably keep them in hangers as reserves with only mandatory maintaining. If there is any necessary, they can be take them to operational condition within short time period.

That would be an amazing lack of foresight if they really do that, pilots loose their ratings and there is no new recruits being trained. Then there will be a mad rush to buy new equipment and train crew when there is a critical need...

Max

08-02-2017, 05:52 AM

Saab Gripen – Potential Candidate

Swedish Export Credit Corporation likely to offer a financial package to Sri Lanka for Gripen jets,
same as they did to Brazil.

https://www.flightglobal.com/assets/getasset.aspx?itemid=58447

Sandaru

08-02-2017, 06:28 AM

Saab Gripen – Potential Candidate

Swedish Export Credit Corporation likely to offer a financial package to Sri Lanka for Gripen jets,
same as they did to Brazil.

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I like it's shape! Modern combat look

LukeSkywalker

08-02-2017, 11:16 AM

Saab Gripen – Potential Candidate

Swedish Export Credit Corporation likely to offer a financial package to Sri Lanka for Gripen jets,
same as they did to Brazil.

https://www.flightglobal.com/assets/getasset.aspx?itemid=58447

With a unit cost of 60 Million US $ the least likely candidate where the SL gov can hardly afford a much cheaper JF-17. Even if SAAB gives a financial lease package or similar to what they have given to Hungary with older jets off the Swedish AF the cost is going to be too much.

The best likely scenario is going to a couple of refurbished SU-27\SU-30s from Russia.

Kusal077

08-02-2017, 05:20 PM

Hi everyone,
I've been trying to obtain a PDF of the Weliamuna report. However, I have been unsuccessful in finding one.
If possible could someone post a link or PDF for the report.

Prime Minister said “China, India, Sweden and Russia have made offers, we are studying them,” So potential candidates are JF17, Thejas, Gripen and Mig 29 or Su 27/30. Most probably final winner is Russian Mig 29 or Su 27/30. and allocated budget for this procurement plan is $450 million. Government said they are planing to buy minimum 6 aircrafts of squadron first and then another squadron later. So unit cost should be less than or around $50 milllion to buy atleast 6 aircrafts and associated weapons.

Haleef

09-02-2017, 09:33 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9X8isseDVc

As the before video of the Independence Day did not come out as much expected, here's a more better version :)
Enjoy!

Prime Minister said “China, India, Sweden and Russia have made offers, we are studying them,” So potential candidates are JF17, Thejas, Gripen and Mig 29 or Su 27/30. Most probably final winner is Russian Mig 29 or Su 27/30. and allocated budget for this procurement plan is $450 million. Government said they are planing to buy minimum 6 aircrafts of squadron first and then another squadron later. So unit cost should be less than or around $50 milllion to buy atleast 6 aircrafts and associated weapons.

Su-30SM will be the most suitable fighter for SLAF if government can move ahead…

Su-30SM is a multi-role fighter aircraft developed by Sukhoi Design Bureau; it is an advanced derivative of the Su-30MK combat aircraft family.

The multi-role Su-30SM can be deployed in air defense, counter-air strikes, counter-land and counter-sea missions. It can conduct electronic counter-countermeasures and early warning tasks. The aircraft also acts as a command-and-control platform within a fleet of combat aircraft performing joint missions.

The airframe of Su-30SM is made of titanium and high-strength aluminum alloys, high maneuverability was achieved through the integral aerodynamic form combined with thrust vectoring feature.

The glass cockpit accommodates two pilots in tandem configuration, the cockpit incorporates an advanced avionics suit integrating a head up display and liquid crystal multi-function displays.

The aircraft can be armed with a machine gun, bombs, air-to-air missiles, and Yakhont supersonic anti-ship and land attack missiles, the aircraft can engage aerial threats, ground and naval surface targets by deploying onboard air-to-air and air-to-surface guided/unguided weapons.

The Su-30SM is powered by two AL-31FP by-pass turbojet reheated engines. The engines generate a total after-burning thrust of 25,000kgf. The power plant provides a horizontal flight speed of Mach 2.

The maximum unrefueled flight range of Su-30SM is about 3,000km. The aircraft is also equipped with a flight refueling probe and refueling system.

The SU-30 is such a great fighter aircraft. Hope if they order a few. Atleast they can train pilots in them, as the Kfir squadron has just only 1 pilot who is available to fly just only 1 Kfir C2 aircraft. Others are all out of service, and no pilots to fly any.

Speedbird

08-03-2017, 08:24 PM

The SU-30 is such a great fighter aircraft. Hope if they order a few. Atleast they can train pilots in them, as the Kfir squadron has just only 1 pilot who is available to fly just only 1 Kfir C2 aircraft. Others are all out of service, and no pilots to fly any.

How much does it cost?

Serendib

08-03-2017, 09:51 PM

How much does it cost?

Sukhoi Su-30 is one of the best 4rth generation Multirole fighter similar to American F15, successfully used in combat operations in Syria by Russians. I think that's far better than those Pakistan - Chinese crap. LOL. Funny thing is that India offered us an Indian fighter jet , who wanna fly an Indian fighter jet?

Yes, we should build our own weapons, that brings new technologies which could benefit other industries as well, like Israel. We had a 30 year war and we didn't make a single bullet, instead import everything - that's politics. Even ISIS makes their own weapons.

They have no intention of stopping the mililitary modernization regardless of the financial situation. Pretty sure they will go ahead with the Fighter jet purchase

They already got the US Marines to train our own Marines and the first group passed out recently. The President's speech reveals that they will be getting newer tech in the near future

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPMPh41JcQA

LukeSkywalker

08-03-2017, 10:18 PM

How much does it cost?

Atleast 65$ million US I believe. But I don't think SL can afford or is even looking at new ones. Probably they will try to work out a refurbished fleet of SU 27s if they have any sense. That would be around the ballpark figure of 25 $ million they are looking at. Would be much better than paying 29 milion for JF 17 IMHO.

Interestingly Russia has granted a 300 million credit line open till 2020. Since Ranil wants to build the blue water capabilities of the Navy it looks like they will order one of the gepard frigates for 150 million us $ https://m.realnoevremya.com/articles/1205-zelenodolsk-plant-will-build-the-ship-for-sri-lanka so that leaves 150 million for the airforce fleet.

Rupees is under pressure after the preliminary IMF report which came few days ago
http://www.ft.lk/article/602327/Rupee-ends-weaker-on-importer-dollar-demand-after-IMF-statement

Can Sri Lanka afford this?

LukeSkywalker

09-03-2017, 12:26 AM

Can Sri Lanka afford this?

No.

We can't afford the massive expansion the Navy and coastguard are undergoing either (2 * 65 US $ mil OPV from India, 180 $ mil for the ships for the coastguard and then this Gepard story, at least the 3 coastguard ships are being built by Colombo dockyard so there is some jobs coming into the country).

Since when have SL politicians thought about what is best for SL then their pockets?

That said, we still need to modernize the airforce as well otherwise we will go back to the 80s where there was nothing at all (currently only 1 operation fighter with a couple fly-worthy f-7s). If we can service this with a government to government deal with a line of credit in the region of 150 ~ 200 million US $ it works out well for the country and compared to the other options Sukhoi is the best bet.

Rupees is under pressure after the preliminary IMF report which came few days ago
http://www.ft.lk/article/602327/Rupee-ends-weaker-on-importer-dollar-demand-after-IMF-statement

Can Sri Lanka afford this?

I doubt we have already ordered these birds, does any one know the story behind SU 30 picture? And by the looks of it it looks like a su 30 MKI /SME/MKM and has the registration of SFS which is for Strike right?

And SLAF headquaters has a huge replica model of a Jf 17 aswell in SLAF roundel and registration

And i remember recently seeing a picture of a yak 130 model being oresented to the airforce bt the russian ambassador

Randy

10-03-2017, 06:58 AM

Sukhoi Su-30 is one of the best 4rth generation Multirole fighter similar to American F15, successfully used in combat operations in Syria by Russians. I think that's far better than those Pakistan - Chinese crap. LOL. Funny thing is that India offered us an Indian fighter jet , who wanna fly an Indian fighter jet?

Yes, we should build our own weapons, that brings new technologies which could benefit other industries as well, like Israel. We had a 30 year war and we didn't make a single bullet, instead import everything - that's politics. Even ISIS makes their own weapons.

They have no intention of stopping the mililitary modernization regardless of the financial situation. Pretty sure they will go ahead with the Fighter jet purchase

They already got the US Marines to train our own Marines and the first group passed out recently. The President's speech reveals that they will be getting newer tech in the near future

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPMPh41JcQA

No. You are wrong. We did make our own military hardwares. Sri lanka army Buffel, Unibuffel, Unicorn, Sri lanka navy Jayasagara class, Colombo class dvora, Waverider, Arrow boats are those. Currently SLAF developing medium range UAV. If government and policy makers allocate more budget for research and development of military. Probably our guys can do more things.

Randy

10-03-2017, 07:13 AM

Modernization of the navy is important than air force. We are island but we have the weakest navy in the region. Our navy has only 3 ships that can stay longer than 10 days in the sea. Sayura, Samudura and Sagara. Those are also old second hand ships. They don't have latest tech. 2 OPVs which navy going to take delivery was ordered in 2013 by previous government. So its not a new cost. Gepard class is also rumor like buying C130. There are no official statement.Vessals for the coast guard are from Japanese loan or gift. Its a good thiing to economy making them in SL in colombo dockyard.

Haleef

10-03-2017, 09:17 AM

The Air Force has set their second C-130K Hercules (Ex. SCH-3402) on full overhaul. It will come back again to flying condition rather than being kept for spares, and will also join the No.2 Sqd. very soon :D
The registration hopes to be CR-881.

LukeSkywalker

10-03-2017, 10:45 AM

The Air Force has set their second C-130K Hercules (Ex. SCH-3402) on full overhaul. It will come back again to flying condition rather than being kept for spares, and will also join the No.2 Sqd. very soon :D
The registration hopes to be CR-881.

Those Hercs should be nearly 50 years old ? IIRC the second Herc hasn't flown for a couple of years now?

There were some rumors on hull crack problems do you know if they are true?

Max

10-03-2017, 11:01 AM

Sri Lankan Defence Policy for the years 2016 to 2020 must be based upon the security environment in Indian Ocean Region. Sri Lankan defence policy requires a new focus. Thus, a renewed regional focus will be a priority, with the emphasis on national defence and planning for wartime scenarios.

This renewed regional and national focus will also require an updated Total Defence Concept able to cope with future challenges and threats.

Air force & Navy will be key players since we are surrounded by Indian Ocean.

Regarding Air force

The Air force needs Four Fighter Squadrons (Su-30SM will be perfect), One Air Transport Squadron, One Air Combat Control & Air Surveillance Battalion and Two Helicopter Wings.

The Helicopter units will give special attention to supporting the naval forces with anti-submarine capabilities as well as to supporting the land forces with tactical transport.

Regarding Navy

The Navy needs Two Corvette Squadrons, Two Mine-clearance Squadrons, Two Support Squadrons, One Mine-clearance Diver Squadron and Two Amphibious Battalions.

The Amphibious Battalions will be focused on its maritime tasks.

Haleef

10-03-2017, 12:46 PM

Those Hercs should be nearly 50 years old ? IIRC the second Herc hasn't flown for a couple of years now?

There were some rumors on hull crack problems do you know if they are true?

Yep it hasn't flown in a long time, for maybe 9 years or so. The C130s were introduced to the Air Force in 2000..
Btw not sure of the hull cracks though :/

banuthev

13-03-2017, 02:01 PM

I read on the daily news, AASL has taken over the Ratmalana Airport from SLAF . Any idea,where there going to shift the SLAF aircraft?

Haleef

13-03-2017, 09:12 PM

I read on the daily news, AASL has taken over the Ratmalana Airport from SLAF . Any idea,where there going to shift the SLAF aircraft?

I don't think they will move any of the SLAF Aircraft. May be they bought it just to bring down International flights. As per my knowledge, I think all the SLAF aircraft at Ratmalana now will be kept there

Serendib

26-03-2017, 10:04 AM

I don't think they will move any of the SLAF Aircraft. May be they bought it just to bring down International flights. As per my knowledge, I think all the SLAF aircraft at Ratmalana now will be kept there

Steps have been taken to use Batticaloa airport for Military operations

Russia in discussions with Sri Lanka to deliver frigates, offers to set up helicopter maintenance center

Mar 24, Colombo: Russia is in discussions with Sri Lanka over a contract on the delivery of Gepard 3.9-class frigates to Colombo and has also proposed to set up a service center for Russian-made helicopters in Sri Lanka, a Russian official has said.

According to Russian news agency Sputnik, deputy chief of Russia's Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation Mikhail Petukhov has revealed the plans on Friday at the LIMA-17 International Maritime and Aerospace Exhibition in Langkawi, Malaysia.

"We've submitted our proposals to equip a helicopter maintenance center and provide spare parts for armored hardware to the Sri Lankan side," Petukhov said at the LIMA 2017 military show.

Regarding the Gepard 3.9-class frigates, Petukhov said "The contract is currently at the stage of discussion."

An export version of Gepard-class Project 1166.1 frigates, Gepard 3.9 may be used in wartime to resist the engagement of enemy aircraft, ships and submarines; conduct escort missions; carry out of patrol duties; and provide fire support to landing missions and mine-laying.

Russia in discussions with Sri Lanka to deliver frigates, offers to set up helicopter maintenance center

Mar 24, Colombo: Russia is in discussions with Sri Lanka over a contract on the delivery of Gepard 3.9-class frigates to Colombo and has also proposed to set up a service center for Russian-made helicopters in Sri Lanka, a Russian official has said.

According to Russian news agency Sputnik, deputy chief of Russia's Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation Mikhail Petukhov has revealed the plans on Friday at the LIMA-17 International Maritime and Aerospace Exhibition in Langkawi, Malaysia.

"We've submitted our proposals to equip a helicopter maintenance center and provide spare parts for armored hardware to the Sri Lankan side," Petukhov said at the LIMA 2017 military show.

Regarding the Gepard 3.9-class frigates, Petukhov said "The contract is currently at the stage of discussion."

An export version of Gepard-class Project 1166.1 frigates, Gepard 3.9 may be used in wartime to resist the engagement of enemy aircraft, ships and submarines; conduct escort missions; carry out of patrol duties; and provide fire support to landing missions and mine-laying.

This helicopter maintainance story came up in 2012 also, i hope the work something out this time, and I'm pretty sure we have more than 36 BMP2's and 6 Mi 24's

Serendib

28-03-2017, 06:40 PM

India is in discussions with Sri Lanka for the supply of Dhruv indigenously developed advanced light helicopter (ALH).

Randy

28-03-2017, 06:59 PM

India is in discussions with Sri Lanka for the supply of Dhruv indigenously developed advanced light helicopter (ALH).

Ecuador initially ordered seven of these. Four of the seven Dhruv helicopters were crashed. Then Ecuador cancels deal with HAL for this ‘crash-prone’ Dhruv and grounded others then put them on sale, and also there was a maintenance and spare parts problem. I don't know why this government even considering these.

Mach3

29-03-2017, 04:32 AM

Ecuador initially ordered seven of these. Four of the seven Dhruv helicopters were crashed. Then Ecuador cancels deal with HAL for this ‘crash-prone’ Dhruv and grounded others then put them on sale, and also there was a maintenance and spare parts problem. I don't know why this government even considering these.

This state has already experienced enough of India's shoddy quality not only on aviation but on states services like the railway where equipment provided by the Indians have prematurely and miserably.
I think we all can under why they are going ahead with these orders. And if this is the case then I will have to live in a bunker specially around RML and when I hear the sound of a chopper.

fdk2008

29-03-2017, 08:45 AM

This state has already experienced enough of India's shoddy quality not only on aviation but on states services like the railway where equipment provided by the Indians have prematurely and miserably.
I think we all can under why they are going ahead with these orders. And if this is the case then I will have to live in a bunker specially around RML and when I hear the sound of a chopper.

I dont think the govt will oreders these,and there is no requirement for choppers right now,i thinks its just indian properganda like the LCA and JF 17

banuthev

29-03-2017, 10:19 AM

I dont think the govt will oreders these,and there is no requirement for choppers right now,i thinks its just indian properganda like the LCA and JF 17

Any idea how many military transport helicopters and military attack helicopters are in service in Sri Lanka? Are the current ones are too old and need replacements?

fdk2008

29-03-2017, 11:32 AM

Any idea how many military transport helicopters and military attack helicopters are in service in Sri Lanka? Are the current ones are too old and need replacements?

We recently bought 14 Mi 17 from russia , and there are 2 new bell 412's as well, apart from the 212's and 206's,all our Mi 24's are grounded and i doubt will fly again

I hope they are not going replace the Mi 24's with HAL ALH

Sandaru

29-05-2017, 04:18 AM

An Air Force helicopter has crashed in Baddegama area but no casualties have been reported all crew members are safe - Air force spokesman

fdk2008

29-05-2017, 08:03 AM

An Air Force helicopter has crashed in Baddegama area but no casualties have been reported all crew members are safe - Air force spokesman

Wonder if it was towing the boat?

banuthev

05-06-2017, 06:42 PM

Wonder if it was towing the boat?

The Sri Lanka Air Force said its Mi-17 helicopter, which was forced to land in a flooded area in Baddegama on May 29 after a technical failure, during rescue and relief operations will be removed from service.

An SLAF source said the Air Force usually did not operate helicopters which had crashed or forced to land on water.

It had deployed seven Mi-17 helicopters, three Bell-212 helicopters and one Bell-412 helicopter for relief and rescue operations during the recent landslide and flood disaster.

However, no casualties were reported in the accident and all crew members on board the helicopter escaped unhurt.

The helicopter was dismantled and the parts removed to the Koggala Air Force camp for repairs.

Meanwhile, SLAF Spokesman Gihan Senaviratne said he could not comment on the matter because of an ongoing inquiry.

Mi-17 is a medium twin-turbine Russian transport helicopter designed for troop transport and supply operations and was inducted to the SLAF in 1993. (Darshana Sanjeewa)

- See more at: http://www.dailymirror.lk/130296/Mi-helicopter-to-be-removed-from-service?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook#sthash.BF88xpYu.dpuf

They are training aircraft from the Indian air force. I think they are for SLAF trainers.

banuthev

29-06-2017, 08:01 AM

They are training aircraft from the Indian air force. I think they are for SLAF trainers.

So that means SLAF has bought those 2 x DO 228 from Indian Air Force?

SLD

29-06-2017, 10:22 AM

So that means SLAF has bought those 2 x DO 228 from Indian Air Force?

Not really. As the media reports it's for training purposes only.

Serendib

29-06-2017, 03:21 PM

http://www.colombopage.com/archive_17A/Jun29_1498710311CH.php

fdk2008

29-06-2017, 06:27 PM

Not really. As the media reports it's for training purposes only.

They must have plans to induct maritime patrol aircraft, otherwise there is no point in training in those .

Haleef

30-06-2017, 01:41 AM

Sri Lanka Air Force had trained one of their F-7 fighter aircraft during the past two days. I got information that it was an air test that was done by a Chinese pilot. Today hopefully there will be another test flight from Katunayake, that will be to the North of VCBI, towards Kurunegala. Wonder what these tests are for?

fdk2008

30-06-2017, 11:08 AM

Sri Lanka Air Force had trained one of their F-7 fighter aircraft during the past two days. I got information that it was an air test that was done by a Chinese pilot. Today hopefully there will be another test flight from Katunayake, that will be to the North of VCBI, towards Kurunegala. Wonder what these tests are for?

We have had F7's since 1991, what is there to test now,its time to retire them

SLD

01-07-2017, 05:30 AM

Sri Lanka Air Force had trained one of their F-7 fighter aircraft during the past two days. I got information that it was an air test that was done by a Chinese pilot. Today hopefully there will be another test flight from Katunayake, that will be to the North of VCBI, towards Kurunegala. Wonder what these tests are for?

I have seen a Harbin Y-12 of SLAF fly over Ratmalana airport in the evenings and in some mornings. It seems to be circling the airport. Anyone knows why?:confused:

Haleef

10-07-2017, 03:06 PM

I have seen a Harbin Y-12 of SLAF fly over Ratmalana airport in the evenings and in some mornings. It seems to be circling the airport. Anyone knows why?:confused:

Mostly base training. I live closer to Ratmalana airport, and almost all the time Y-12s and Cessna aircraft fly about, sometimes even a Bell 412 or Mi-17.

SLD

10-07-2017, 04:26 PM

Mostly base training. I live closer to Ratmalana airport, and almost all the time Y-12s and Cessna aircraft fly about, sometimes even a Bell 412 or Mi-17.

Don't bigger planes than the Y-12 land?
When is the scheduled Helitours MA-60 plane landing?:confused:

banuthev

10-07-2017, 04:29 PM

Don't bigger planes than the Y-12 land?
When is the scheduled Helitours MA-60 plane landing?:confused:

IL76 of Indian Airforce once landed at RML several years ago.

SLD

11-07-2017, 10:49 AM

Why can't SLAF planes fix ADS-B transponders? Isn't it easy for them and aviation enthusiasts to track?
(can it be for security reasons?)

SLD

11-07-2017, 03:34 PM

Sri Lanka Air Force had trained one of their F-7 fighter aircraft during the past two days. I got information that it was an air test that was done by a Chinese pilot. Today hopefully there will be another test flight from Katunayake, that will be to the North of VCBI, towards Kurunegala. Wonder what these tests are for?

http://www.airforce.lk/news.php?news=3232

This explains all.

Haleef

11-07-2017, 04:14 PM

Don't bigger planes than the Y-12 land?
When is the scheduled Helitours MA-60 plane landing?:confused:

Bigger planes do come by, such as the Antonov AN-32B, C-130K and mostly the MA-60 aircraft. Nowadays even commercial/private jets come by too on short stopovers.
The Helitours MA-60 aircraft normally touches down at 1600hrs (4.30pm) or sometimes a bit late too.

Haleef

11-07-2017, 04:19 PM

http://www.airforce.lk/news.php?news=3232

This explains all.

Finally they've overhauled the F-7BS aircraft too! So I think now there are 4 F-7 fighters in service with the ones that joined recently? First two registrations are SFI-782 and SFI-783. Wonder what the other two are?
Heard that even the other C-130K, SCH-881 (former SCH-3402) is also nearing the overhaul completion. So I think we will have 2 C-130K Hercules back in the fleet again like the good old times. :)

SLD

11-07-2017, 05:14 PM

Bigger planes do come by, such as the Antonov AN-32B, C-130K and mostly the MA-60 aircraft. Nowadays even commercial/private jets come by too on short stopovers.
The Helitours MA-60 aircraft normally touches down at 1600hrs (4.30pm) or sometimes a bit late too.

Do you know the flight path?
Does it come from Jaffna or Trincomalee ? But, I have never seen a landing at that time:(

Haleef

12-07-2017, 01:11 AM

Do you know the flight path?
Does it come from Jaffna or Trincomalee ? But, I have never seen a landing at that time:(

I'm not quite sure..

SLD

14-07-2017, 03:45 PM

A Chendu-F7 in Trincomalee?
http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=Blu_Whale_III_carried_out_in_Trincom alee_by_Navy_Marines_20170713_01

The Su-30SM multirole fighter is the further development of the Su-30MK combat aircraft family. The Su-30SM two-seat fighter is supermaneuverable, equipped with active phased array radar, thrust vectoring engines and canard surfaces. The fighter can use modern and advanced precise air-to-air and air-to-surface armament.

“The negotiations were held from the 2nd of November until the 4th of November 2016 in c. Baranovichi at JSC “558 Aircraft repair plant” between: Representatives of the company “Lanka Logistics and Technologies Limited”, Sri Lanka Air Force, Company “Czechoslovak Export Ltd.” on one side and Representatives of JSC “558 Aircraft repair plant” JSC “ Rosoboronexport” , JSC “Company Irkut” on the other side,”

Randy

27-09-2017, 04:58 AM

Looks like we are going to get SU30MKI. but not sure until they officialy order. SLAF have to upgrade their jet trainers also. We need to go further from K8 if we are going to use SU30.

For Navy it is very good to have Frigate. Gepard Class is very good frigate class. Actual order values of this frigate deal is less than this SL guardian article. total ship value with all other expenses is US$ 158.5 million. Recently Vietnam ordered two of these frigates in 2006 for USD $350 million.

Looks like we are going to get SU30MKI. but not sure until they officialy order. SLAF have to upgrade their jet trainers also. We need to go further from K8 if we are going to use SU30.

For Navy it is very good to have Frigate. Gepard Class is very good frigate class. Actual order values of this frigate deal is less than this SL guardian article. total ship value with all other expenses is US$ 158.5 million. Recently Vietnam ordered two of these frigates in 2006 for USD $350 million.

It's not the SU 30MKI we are getting but the SU30K which is initial batch of Indian Air force used. IAF returned these to Russia once they received Custom Upgraded MKI Variant. 30K is a Aircraft without TVC nozzles and Canard-less (MKI Features). however it's good that we are getting SU 30 series class fighters since we could use them for patrol duties.

For Geppard Class, we are getting the Patrol variant without Missile Launchers. instead they are getting fitted out with Artillery canons with the Helipad and Hanger.

LukeSkywalker

27-09-2017, 06:01 AM

Looks like we are going to get SU30MKI. but not sure until they officialy order. SLAF have to upgrade their jet trainers also. We need to go further from K8 if we are going to use SU30.

For Navy it is very good to have Frigate. Gepard Class is very good frigate class. Actual order values of this frigate deal is less than this SL guardian article. total ship value with all other expenses is US$ 158.5 million. Recently Vietnam ordered two of these frigates in 2006 for USD $350 million.

I am a bit sceptical about the SL guardian article as it is a very badly written piece (if you look from part 1) both grammatically and factually (India protesting against YAK 130??) . A school kid's assignment will be better written and arranged than this.

The Gepard 5.1 frigate is good but I have my concerns about the customisation our Navy are said to be doing (from an earlier Russian media article). Apparently our Navy or whoever is finalising the order wants all missiles removed and instead replaced with standard guns.

Some might argue missiles might be an overkill but if we are mordenizing the navy we should train and have the capability for our navy in the latest weapons. Even the Bangaladeshis are ordering Gepards but without doing away the missiles...

BTW, does anyone know why the Indian air force returned these few SU 30 jets which is of interest now? Were there some issues with this batch?

ruslan047910

27-09-2017, 08:25 AM

I am a bit sceptical about the SL guardian article as it is a very badly written piece (if you look from part 1) both grammatically and factually (India protesting against YAK 130??) . A school kid's assignment will be better written and arranged than this.

The Gepard 5.1 frigate is good but I have my concerns about the customisation our Navy are said to be doing (from an earlier Russian media article). Apparently our Navy or whoever is finalising the order wants all missiles removed and instead replaced with standard guns.

Some might argue missiles might be an overkill but if we are mordenizing the navy we should train and have the capability for our navy in the latest weapons. Even the Bangaladeshis are ordering Gepards but without doing away the missiles...

BTW, does anyone know why the Indian air force returned these few SU 30 jets which is of interest now? Were there some issues with this batch?

I believe (and read somewhere) that they acquired SU-30K as a stop Gap till the MKI Order fulfilled. so they are hardly used batch i guess. yes i too believe that we should've acquired the Geppard class ships with Missile capability. i think it's time we should move away from conventional tactics and move with the tech. and it's a waste Navy isn't using any of the Helipads of the ships with Choppers. back in the day SLAF has protested when Navy tried to acquire Choppers for their ships.

Randy

27-09-2017, 08:57 AM

Present SLAF commander recently said in the interview that they are not against Navy using Helicopters. Most probably Navy already requested that. Sayura, Samudura, Sagara and recent Sayurala all capable of handling choppers. Sindurala which is gonna join next year also can handle choppers. But its up to government. They are the one who approved it or reject it.

According to following article two Fast Missile Vessels, two Frigates, two Fast Patrol Boats and two Corvettes will join our fleet in coming years apart from Sindurala (Sister ship of Sayurala). Corvettes will definitely have missile capabilities like Nandimithra & Suranimala.

Sri Lanka’s local media has reported that Colombo is interested in purchasing six ex-Indian Air Force Sukhoi Su-30K fighter aircraft that have been grounded in Belarus.

The negotiations were held last year from November 2-4 between company representatives of Lanka Logistics and Technologies Limited, fully owned by the Government of Sri Lanka, and Russia’s Irkut Corporation at 558 Aircraft Repair Plant, in Baranovichi, Belarus, Colombo’s news agency SL Guardian reported last week.

Moscow has already sold 12 former Indian jets to Angola, and is reportedly waiting to sell 6 to Sir Lanka.

The Sri Lankan government had previously been looking at the Chinese-Pakistani JF-17, however,this was met with protest by India who in turn suggested a procurement of its own development, the LCA Tejas.

Instead, the government is looking at possibilities to buy 6 overhauled SU30MKI to “enhance the national security”.

However, the report points out that a lack of trained pilots in the Sri Lankan Air Force (SLAF) could prove fielding the fighters difficult without additional funding for a new fighter training program and more advanced training aircraft.

Tomorrow Sunday news papers (2017-10-01) newspapers reported that Cabinet decided to halt approval for Russian frigate. Their main reason was India donating ships for SL Navy and Japan's recent help for 2 patrol boats for coast guard. So no need to buy high tech ship.

Corrupted Politicians never allow that kind of decisions. They are spending millions of dollars for their usage. Specially this government did nothing to upgrade military. They are saying that now USA is our best friend. They won international community, but couldn't buy at least one new C130 for air force. We are still using more than 45 years old C130. The new AOPV which joined navy ordered in 2014 by previous regime.

This is what india also want. They want us to use their 2nd hand old technology garbage. Don't be surprised if this regime decide to buy HAL Dhruv or HAL Thejas. Not because to upgrade military, to because satisfy india.

Feeling sad about our military and as citizen.

fdk2008

01-10-2017, 06:26 AM

No,Sunday Times reported today that the cabinet has approved the Proposal to acquire the Gepard 5.1

Max

01-10-2017, 06:41 AM

Tomorrow Sunday news papers (2017-10-01) newspapers reported that Cabinet decided to halt approval for Russian frigate. Their main reason was India donating ships for SL Navy and Japan's recent help for 2 patrol boats for coast guard. So no need to buy high tech ship.

Corrupted Politicians never allow that kind of decisions. They are spending millions of dollars for their usage. Specially this government did nothing to upgrade military. They are saying that now USA is our best friend. They won international community, but couldn't buy at least one new C130 for air force. We are still using more than 45 years old C130. The new AOPV which joined navy ordered in 2014 by previous regime.

This is what india also want. They want us to use their 2nd hand old technology garbage. Don't be surprised if this regime decide to buy HAL Dhruv or HAL Thejas. Not because to upgrade military, to because satisfy india.

Sri Lanka will sign a deal with Russia to procure a Gephard 5.1 Offshore Patrol Vessel (OPV) for the Navy, the Cabinet of Ministers decided last Tuesday.

The unanimous decision came on a recommendation from President Maithripala Sirisena who is also the Minister of Defence.

As reported in the front page lead story of the Sunday Times last week, the Russian Government will extend credit to the tune of US$ 135 million (Rs.20 billion) exclusive of 15 percent of Sri Lanka Government’s contribution. The total ship value including on board spares and ammunition is placed at US$ 158.5 million (Rs.24 billion). This is besides a further Government commitment of US$ 7 million (Rs.1 billion) for training of Navy personnel.

The Government will pay a four percent interest on the credit extended by the Russian Government. Payments will be semi-annual in equal instalments within ten years including a grace period of five years. The Russian loan component is the remaining amount of a credit line of US$ 300 million which expired in 2010. It has since been re-negotiated.

Now, the Department of External Resources (in the Ministry of Finance) will finalise details for the signing of the credit agreement with Russia.

However Today Lankadeepa(2017-10-01) political article reported that decision was postponed due to objection from cabinet members. Don't know who is telling truth.!! but we can see what is the exact decision in near future.

And also there were no information about this approval in the official approved cabinet decision website.

https://www.news.lk/cabinet-decusions

ruslan047910

01-10-2017, 02:07 PM

However Today Lankadeepa(2017-10-01) political article reported that decision was postponed due to objection from cabinet members. Don't know who is telling truth.!! but we can see what is the exact decision in near future.

And also there were no information about this approval in the official approved cabinet decision website.

https://www.news.lk/cabinet-decusions

We could've gone with a decision like the Vietnamese. i think the last 2 Vessels will get fitted out in Vietnam with collaboration with Russians. since we do have Technical know how on Military vessels (Jayasagara and Sagarawardene and Colombo Class FACs), we could've gone with a deal with CDL. at-least will get the Technical know how on how to assemble large military vessels domestically. but i don't think our pea sized brained politicians couldn't even think about such decision :)

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/1166_1.htm

Speedbird

01-10-2017, 06:05 PM

However Today Lankadeepa(2017-10-01) political article reported that decision was postponed due to objection from cabinet members. Don't know who is telling truth.!! but we can see what is the exact decision in near future.

And also there were no information about this approval in the official approved cabinet decision website.

https://www.news.lk/cabinet-decusions

We could've gone with a decision like the Vietnamese. i think the last 2 Vessels will get fitted out in Vietnam with collaboration with Russians. since we do have Technical know how on Military vessels (Jayasagara and Sagarawardene and Colombo Class FACs), we could've gone with a deal with CDL. at-least will get the Technical know how on how to assemble large military vessels domestically. but i don't think our pea sized brained politicians couldn't even think about such decision :)

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/1166_1.htm

Before buying expensive rust buckets or expensive flying toys better work on that $46billion debt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt

...otherwise will end up like a Greek island of the Indian Ocean

Randy

02-10-2017, 05:03 AM

Before buying expensive rust buckets or expensive flying toys better work on that $46billion debt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt

...otherwise will end up like a Greek island of the Indian Ocean

This thread is about military discussion. Not about Economy. :)

And also National Security is one of the main priority of a country. If country waste millions of dollars for Corruptions of Politicians, We don't think spending's of national security is so much burden. BTW we are island nation and don't need to describe importance of the Navy.

...This deal is for remaining s of defense credit line from Russia. So good opportunity to get this type of vessel. If we don't use this, we might lose the chance.

Speedbird

02-10-2017, 01:19 PM

This thread is about military discussion. Not about Economy. :)

And also National Security is one of the main priority of a country. If country waste millions of dollars for Corruptions of Politicians, We don't think spending's of national security is so much burden. BTW we are island nation and don't need to describe importance of the Navy.

...This deal is for remaining s of defense credit line from Russia. So good opportunity to get this type of vessel. If we don't use this, we might lose the chance.

This thread is about military AVIATION...not about maritime security...either way you need money to buy which come from health of the economy

ruslan047910

02-10-2017, 01:29 PM

This thread is about military discussion. Not about Economy. :

...This deal is for remaining s of defense credit line from Russia. So good opportunity to get this type of vessel. If we don't use this, we might lose the chance.

Yes indeed it's a good Opportunity. since we already have good relations with the Russians, we can make the most out of this for Overhauling and buy those SU 30s. all in all at least some sanity prevails not buying that crappy Tejas which Indians trying to force it upon us. not even IAF is in favour of them.

SLD

02-10-2017, 03:21 PM

Why can't Sri Lanka ever create aircraft?

LukeSkywalker

02-10-2017, 11:34 PM

This thread is about military AVIATION...not about maritime security...either way you need money to buy which come from health of the economy

Yes the health of the economy is unfortunately not really understood here. Just because there is a Russian credit line available it doesn't make sense to go and use it we still have to pay back with the interest...

If we really have to use the credit line we can use it on something more useful and spend it towards the SU 30s (which are still 20 years old). This 'interest of security of SL' phobia is pretty pointless when you spend it all on one ship that is not going to have the latest offensive\defensive capabilities when everyone else in the neighbourhood are spending their money on the latest technology.

It's like going to a war armed with toothpicks...

Randy

03-10-2017, 06:03 AM

Yes the health of the economy is unfortunately not really understood here. Just because there is a Russian credit line available it doesn't make sense to go and use it we still have to pay back with the interest...

If we really have to use the credit line we can use it on something more useful and spend it towards the SU 30s (which are still 20 years old). This 'interest of security of SL' phobia is pretty pointless when you spend it all on one ship that is not going to have the latest offensive\defensive capabilities when everyone else in the neighbourhood are spending their money on the latest technology.

It's like going to a war armed with toothpicks...

Agree with you. In 2013 SLAF bought 13 new MI17 using this credit line. It was very useful deal. Several those MI17 now in Central African Republic. They are generating income for country.

And also buying BTR another useful deal. They are mainly for for UN Peace keeping missions. And we all saw that how useful BTRs when flood situation.

Buying SU30 is a waste. To maintain SU30 fleet, SLAF need high tech trainers also. K8 is not technological advance to train SU30 pilots. Instead of SU30, we could buy IIYUSHIN strategic airlifter. which could very useful for SLAF. SLAF officials requesting strategic air lifter from several years.

But sadly our policy makers and officials of defense ministry(most of the officials don't have military background) think only about their commissions.

Serendib

04-10-2017, 06:51 PM

18 new airplanes to be purchased for the Sri Lanka airforce.
Source:Lankadeepa - 2017-10-04

ecureilx

06-10-2017, 09:08 AM

Buying SU30 is a waste. To maintain SU30 fleet, SLAF need high tech trainers also. K8 is not technological advance to train SU30 pilots. Instead of SU30, we could buy IIYUSHIN strategic airlifter. which could very useful for SLAF. SLAF officials requesting strategic air lifter from several years.

I wonder, what will anybody of the size of SL do with An IL ? You mean IL 76 ?

If needed, there is enough commercial cargo operators, unless SL is waging a secret war in some country which nobody knows of, I see no need for anything like IL.

fdk2008

07-10-2017, 04:21 AM

18 new airplanes to be purchased for the Sri Lanka airforce.
Source:Lankadeepa - 2017-10-04

Do you have a link for this?

Serendib

07-10-2017, 12:05 PM

Do you have a link for this?

18 new airplanes to be purchased for the Sri Lanka airforce.
Source:Lankadeepa - 2017-10-04

The P-3 Orion is used by numerous navies and air forces around the world, primarily for maritime patrol, reconnaissance, anti-surface warfare and anti-submarine warfare.

If Sri Lanka does end up taking the former Japanese P-3s, it may find itself with high-time airframes with much of the most capable equipment removed; although there are options for airframe life-extension and avionics upgrade packages available.

Lockheed Martin is offering a midlife upgrade to the Orion that it says removes all current airframe flight restrictions and provides 15,000 additional flight hours by the installation of new, enhanced design wings and horizontal stabilizers built with improved corrosion-resistant materials.

The p-3 orion is used by numerous navies and air forces around the world, primarily for maritime patrol, reconnaissance, anti-surface warfare and anti-submarine warfare.

If sri lanka does end up taking the former japanese p-3s, it may find itself with high-time airframes with much of the most capable equipment removed; although there are options for airframe life-extension and avionics upgrade packages available.

Lockheed martin is offering a midlife upgrade to the orion that it says removes all current airframe flight restrictions and provides 15,000 additional flight hours by the installation of new, enhanced design wings and horizontal stabilizers built with improved corrosion-resistant materials.

The P-3 Orion is used by numerous navies and air forces around the world, primarily for maritime patrol, reconnaissance, anti-surface warfare and anti-submarine warfare.

If Sri Lanka does end up taking the former Japanese P-3s, it may find itself with high-time airframes with much of the most capable equipment removed; although there are options for airframe life-extension and avionics upgrade packages available.

Lockheed Martin is offering a midlife upgrade to the Orion that it says removes all current airframe flight restrictions and provides 15,000 additional flight hours by the installation of new, enhanced design wings and horizontal stabilizers built with improved corrosion-resistant materials.

P3 is very capable platform for surveillance activities i would say (Counter smuggling, anti-piracy etc). plus it's high time we setup Naval air arm and allocate these sort of assets to them. i'm not sure why we operate a Separate Airforce element in-fact it should be a Naval Air arm we should go forward. this is just my idea.

SKYBUCK729

08-10-2017, 09:31 PM

18 new airplanes to be purchased for the Sri Lanka airforce.
Source:Lankadeepa - 2017-10-04

Does SLAF really need them, or just another shady transaction for some goons to make a few quick bucks ? :(

According to Japan’s Nikkei Asian Review, Malaysia approached Japan for a donation of its retired P-3Cs. However, Nikkei noted that Japan’s parliament will need to revise the foundational law of the Ministry of Defense that would allow equipment to be given to other nations at no cost, as currently some form of compensation is required by law for the transfer of Japanese national assets

If Malaysia does end up taking the former Japanese P-3s, it may find itself with high-time airframes with much of the most capable equipment removed; although there are options for airframe life-extension and avionics upgrade packages available.

Not sure why we need a naval air arm other than helicopters for the navy and coastgaurd.

ecureilx

09-10-2017, 03:00 AM

Guys - think!

You know how 'Business' is done in Sri Lanka. These military deals are no different than any other corrupt deals.

This has nothing to do with Airforce requirements - it's all about the Commissions and other bribes and kickbacks associated with all the corrupt deals.

Once again a few will profit at the expense of the entire country!

Though I hate the commies, times like this make me consider becoming a commie :D :D

Ah, well, the issue is, running a country takes lot of talent, and skills and resource.

Unfortunately, the ones who can make a change aren't interested, or being kept away.

Or being scared with the amount of violence.

For comparison:

.........

Qualifications for membership of Parliament

45.—(1) Subject to this Article, a person shall not be qualified to be a Member of Parliament who —

(a) is and has been found or declared to be of unsound mind;

(b) is an undischarged bankrupt;

(c) holds an office of profit;

(d) having been nominated for election to Parliament or the office of President or having acted as election agent to a person so nominated, has failed to lodge any return of election expenses required by law within the time and in the manner so required;

(e) has been convicted of an offence by a court of law in Singapore or Malaysia and sentenced to imprisonment for a term of not less than one year or to a fine of not less than $2,000 and has not received a free pardon:
Provided that where the conviction is by a court of law in Malaysia, the person shall not be so disqualified unless the offence is also one which, had it been committed in Singapore, would have been punishable by a court of law in Singapore;

(f)has voluntarily acquired the citizenship of, or exercised rights of citizenship in, a foreign country or has made a declaration of allegiance to a foreign country; or
(g)is disqualified under any law relating to offences in connection with elections to Parliament or the office of President by reason of having been convicted of such an offence or having in proceedings relating to such an election been proved guilty of an act constituting such an offence.

Unfortunately someone is happy to whip up national phobia and just fear mongering just to get elected, they don't give a f*k on what happens to the country or people just hold office. Now there is no internal threat make up an external one.

This is what has been happening since independence and it's always a sad case of what could have been...

LukeSkywalker

09-10-2017, 06:15 AM

Though I hate the commies, times like this make me consider becoming a commie :D :D

Ah, well, the issue is, running a country takes lot of talent, and skills and resource.

Unfortunately, the ones who can make a change aren't interested, or being kept away.

Or being scared with the amount of violence.

For comparison:

.........

Qualifications for membership of Parliament

45.—(1) Subject to this Article, a person shall not be qualified to be a Member of Parliament who —

(a) is and has been found or declared to be of unsound mind;

(b) is an undischarged bankrupt;

(c) holds an office of profit;

(d) having been nominated for election to Parliament or the office of President or having acted as election agent to a person so nominated, has failed to lodge any return of election expenses required by law within the time and in the manner so required;

(e) has been convicted of an offence by a court of law in Singapore or Malaysia and sentenced to imprisonment for a term of not less than one year or to a fine of not less than $2,000 and has not received a free pardon:
Provided that where the conviction is by a court of law in Malaysia, the person shall not be so disqualified unless the offence is also one which, had it been committed in Singapore, would have been punishable by a court of law in Singapore;

(f)has voluntarily acquired the citizenship of, or exercised rights of citizenship in, a foreign country or has made a declaration of allegiance to a foreign country; or
(g)is disqualified under any law relating to offences in connection with elections to Parliament or the office of President by reason of having been convicted of such an offence or having in proceedings relating to such an election been proved guilty of an act constituting such an offence.

And they came to study SL as a role model for development in the 60s, as I mentioned in my previous post it's always going to be a case of what have been

ejanson65

09-10-2017, 01:42 PM

Unfortunately someone is happy to whip up national phobia and just fear mongering just to get elected, they don't give a f*k on what happens to the country or people just hold office. Now there is no internal threat make up an external one.

This is what has been happening since independence and it's always a sad case of what could have been...

So why shouldn't we buy the Russian Frigate, a dozen Mig 29s, and a few IL 76, and a few of this and that ?

To defend the nation :D The nation that has no external threats, so to speak of, other than the conspiracy theory believers who still think Bankrupt Russia and busy body US is meddling in SLs affairs...

(Sarcasm mode on .. )

LukeSkywalker

11-10-2017, 04:27 AM

So why shouldn't we buy the Russian Frigate, a dozen Mig 29s, and a few IL 76, and a few of this and that ?

To defend the nation :D The nation that has no external threats, so to speak of, other than the conspiracy theory believers who still think Bankrupt Russia and busy body US is meddling in SLs affairs...

(Sarcasm mode on .. )

<sarcasm>
You forgot to mention the many external threats that threaten the very existence and the moral fibre of the country... We need considerable arsenal to wallop them and not be puppets of the international community ;)
</sarcasm>

ecureilx

11-10-2017, 04:52 AM

<sarcasm>
You forgot to mention the many external threats that threaten the very existence and the moral fibre of the country... We need considerable arsenal to wallop them and not be puppets of the international community ;)
</sarcasm>

I was talking to a SL businessman, let's say, in the mega rich category.

He insisted the Americans training with Sri Lanka is preparation for some conspiracy.

Conspiracy for what ? To steal ???? What ? Bases to be close to India ? Isn't India now buddy buddy with US ? So much so, India is one of the few countries to get the P8 and C17 ..

Gone are the days any foreign power needs boots on the ground to cause trouble. All can be done remotely, if they really want to. or satellite ..

A couple of Cruise missiles, and couple of underwater Autonomous vessels, and an innocent accident destroying a mega container ship.

Didn't want to tell him, that kind of boots on the ground stuff don't fly ..

Conspiracy is a crazy theory. Our economy is in trouble. That is totally true. If we modernize our Armed Forces, we should do that according to our economy.

Policy makers should have clear idea(Which they don't have) what are the priorities.

We all know that we don't have any external threat. Assume that we have, as a small country with small economy we cannot go to war except solve that using diplomatic mission.

We CANNOT say "Now there is no internal threat!!" This is what happen in 1970/80s. Our military was unable to tackle insurgency in north mainly due to lack of resources. If we were able to control LTTE in their early days, We are not in a situation like this..

Yes we don't have internal threat now,but how can you so sure there will be anything in future?? Nothing is impossible

And all of us know that constitutional reforms are coming. Most of the powers will be given to regions like Land, Police,etc. At least Central government should have strong Armed Force to tackle any challenges.

I'm not saying that we need bunch of Russian Frigates, a dozen Mig 29s, Large Cargo Planes , 100 attack helicopters. We won the war using those???? We won the war against one of most ruthless terrorist organization using 2nd hand, old arsenel. That is why I said Policy makers should think about needs of the country.

But maintaining Armed Forces comparing to our economy is mandatory and one of top priority. Otherwise if we have to face another insurgency or what ever like recent civil war, It is better to delete this thread, because nothing will left in Sri Lanka to talk.

ecureilx

11-10-2017, 09:49 AM

Conspiracy is a crazy theory. Our economy is in trouble. That is totally true. If we modernize our Armed Forces, we should do that according to our economy.

Policy makers should have clear idea(Which they don't have) what are the priorities.

We all know that we don't have any external threat. Assume that we have, as a small country with small economy we cannot go to war except solve that using diplomatic mission.

We CANNOT say "Now there is no internal threat!!" This is what happen in 1970/80s. Our military was unable to tackle insurgency in north mainly due to lack of resources. If we were able to control LTTE in their early days, We are not in a situation like this..

Yes we don't have internal threat now,but how can you so sure there will be anything in future?? Nothing is impossible

And all of us know that constitutional reforms are coming. Most of the powers will be given to regions like Land, Police,etc. At least Central government should have strong Armed Force to tackle any challenges.

I'm not saying that we need bunch of Russian Frigates, a dozen Mig 29s, Large Cargo Planes , 100 attack helicopters. We won the war using those???? We won the war against one of most ruthless terrorist organization using 2nd hand, old arsenel. That is why I said Policy makers should think about needs of the country.

But maintaining Armed Forces comparing to our economy is mandatory and one of top priority. Otherwise if we have to face another insurgency or what ever like recent civil war, It is better to delete this thread, because nothing will left in Sri Lanka to talk.

Even funny, when you realise a POOR country like NZ ( :D :D :D ) gave up their fighters as they foresaw no major conflicts they will get involved, and need any fighters..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_New_Zealand_Air_Force

And in comparison, Singapore Air Force is pretty strong, since, they are surrounded by countries that have been riling up things, and / or threatened them directly in one way or other, countries who are threatened by Singapore's economic might. And, also, Singapore is an Active partner with US, involved in AF and IQ. And you can guess the threats they are facing.

The present threats emanating from the Indian Ocean due to Sri Lanka’s geostrategic location has called for establishment of a Naval-Air Force wing to secure our waters with greater surveillance and striking capabilities, stated the Secretary to the Ministry of Defense today.

The present threats emanating from the Indian Ocean due to Sri Lanka’s geostrategic location has called for establishment of a Naval-Air Force wing to secure our waters with greater surveillance and striking capabilities, stated the Secretary to the Ministry of Defense today.

At least you know where the Commissions will be going!

Speedbird

13-10-2017, 12:52 AM

Conspiracy is a crazy theory. Our economy is in trouble. That is totally true. If we modernize our Armed Forces, we should do that according to our economy.

Policy makers should have clear idea(Which they don't have) what are the priorities.

We all know that we don't have any external threat. Assume that we have, as a small country with small economy we cannot go to war except solve that using diplomatic mission.

We CANNOT say "Now there is no internal threat!!" This is what happen in 1970/80s. Our military was unable to tackle insurgency in north mainly due to lack of resources. If we were able to control LTTE in their early days, We are not in a situation like this..

Yes we don't have internal threat now,but how can you so sure there will be anything in future?? Nothing is impossible

And all of us know that constitutional reforms are coming. Most of the powers will be given to regions like Land, Police,etc. At least Central government should have strong Armed Force to tackle any challenges.

I'm not saying that we need bunch of Russian Frigates, a dozen Mig 29s, Large Cargo Planes , 100 attack helicopters. We won the war using those???? We won the war against one of most ruthless terrorist organization using 2nd hand, old arsenel. That is why I said Policy makers should think about needs of the country.

But maintaining Armed Forces comparing to our economy is mandatory and one of top priority. Otherwise if we have to face another insurgency or what ever like recent civil war, It is better to delete this thread, because nothing will left in Sri Lanka to talk.

Yes now the war is over...why for a change look inwards and think why did it start in first place and how did LKY had a same issue in 60's but he managed it well

LKY build a strong economy, rule of law and strong educated workforce.

Most of current economic woes in Sri Lanka are due to previous govt economic destruction...

ecureilx

16-10-2017, 03:06 AM

We CANNOT say "Now there is no internal threat!!" This is what happen in 1970/80s. Our military was unable to tackle insurgency in north mainly due to lack of resources. If we were able to control LTTE in their early days, We are not in a situation like this..

You can shoot me for saying this, the country is at catch 22: The huge number of armed force personnel need to be employed

Hence the Previous Def Sec's attempts to make them into farming etc .. but in my honest opinon, when a state starts to do things they aren't supposed to, they kill the private sector, like Indonesia .. example, the SLAF competing for tours with private - you can say what you want, but me says, WRONG, in so many levels.

And the other issue: nobody wants to bite the bullet, and demoblise the forces, and build up only a small force, with the rest on reservist basis, like Singapore, or Korea.

The problem is, there is corruption in every level, and nobody wants to be the bad boy, for implementing painful reforms.

So solution: keep buying more and more, spend more and more ..

PS, I really wonder what went through the minds of the folks who decided the russian frigate is a good buy !!!

Supply/demand. And the cost of building a safe plane is in Billions of $s

Unless SL has lot of spare money ..

Oh, even India has failed miserably trying to build a commercial plane.

They do build War planes, as War planes don't have stringent safety standards and can spend lot of time in maintenance.

Commercial planes make money - as long as they fly

LukeSkywalker

23-10-2017, 10:21 PM

Saw this late.

Meaning manufacture ?

Supply/demand. And the cost of building a safe plane is in Billions of $s

Unless SL has lot of spare money ..

Oh, even India has failed miserably trying to build a commercial plane.

They do build War planes, as War planes don't have stringent safety standards and can spend lot of time in maintenance.

Commercial planes make money - as long as they fly

And for argument sake SL had the money and stringent engineering standards to manufacture, we will not be able to compete because SL is hideously expensive. If you look at what's happening now and see items such as clothing etc which we used to make in the 90s are now being bought down from India or Bangladesh.

This is not because of some conspiracy where we have to arm ourselves to the teeth but due to the scale of economics.

ecureilx

25-10-2017, 02:37 AM

And for argument sake SL had the money and stringent engineering standards to manufacture, we will not be able to compete because SL is hideously expensive. If you look at what's happening now and see items such as clothing etc which we used to make in the 90s are now being bought down from India or Bangladesh.

This is not because of some conspiracy where we have to arm ourselves to the teeth but due to the scale of economics.

But.. but. .. some guys have decided to build planes. For SLAF. And then grow to modern planes ..

Honestly I am not against innovation.

but reinventing the wheel ?? Of course, we can, if we have a couple of billion dollars spare ..

Sri Lanka can expand the wide reach :D

If somebody asks why SL can't build a plane, see how many countries can successfully make SAFE and reliable planes:

Boeing, Airbus, Embraer, Bombardier .. any more ?

Heck, The russians with trillions of $ can't get it right. And include India too, with nearly half century of doing local assembly and manufacture of licenses, can't get a original product out.

Maybe our Einsteins can get it right ?

Randy

25-10-2017, 05:20 AM

But.. but. .. some guys have decided to build planes. For SLAF. And then grow to modern planes ..

Honestly I am not against innovation.

but reinventing the wheel ?? Of course, we can, if we have a couple of billion dollars spare ..

Sri Lanka can expand the wide reach :D

If somebody asks why SL can't build a plane, see how many countries can successfully make SAFE and reliable planes:

Boeing, Airbus, Embraer, Bombardier .. any more ?

Heck, The russians with trillions of $ can't get it right. And include India too, with nearly half century of doing local assembly and manufacture of licenses, can't get a original product out.

Maybe our Einsteins can get it right ?

Dude don't get angry...!! OMG :o

There is no plan to build passenger aircrafts or something like Boeing, Airbus, Embraer, Bombardier

SLAF just got plan develop single engine small scale plane like Zlín, PT...

We have done it previously also. Ray Wijewardana developed plane like this back in 70s or 60s. Did you ever visited Air Force museum? in Air Force museum there was another small plane like this which build in Sri Lanka by SLAF back in 60s or 70s.

And also there is no possibility that government invest public money for this. So Don't worry..!!!! :D
SLAF will develop it using their allocated budget and their resources. Just like Sri Lanka Army SLEME developed Buffel and Unibuffel.

SLAF currently developing medium range UAV also.

It is very good approach. At least they can use that for basic training and air shows. and it is very good motivation to our country. What is the wrong with innovations?

ejanson65

25-10-2017, 07:32 AM

And also there is no possibility that government invest public money for this. So Don't worry..!!!! :D
SLAF will develop it using their allocated budget and their resources. Just like Sri Lanka Army SLEME developed Buffel and Unibuffel.

Where do you think this money comes from?

ecureilx

25-10-2017, 09:21 AM

Dude don't get angry...!! OMG :o

There is no plan to build passenger aircrafts or something like Boeing, Airbus, Embraer, Bombardier

SLAF just got plan develop single engine small scale plane like Zlín, PT...

We have done it previously also. Ray Wijewardana developed plane like this back in 70s or 60s. Did you ever visited Air Force museum? in Air Force museum there was another small plane like this which build in Sri Lanka by SLAF back in 60s or 70s.

And also there is no possibility that government invest public money for this. So Don't worry..!!!! :D
SLAF will develop it using their allocated budget and their resources. Just like Sri Lanka Army SLEME developed Buffel and Unibuffel.

SLAF currently developing medium range UAV also.

It is very good approach. At least they can use that for basic training and air shows. and it is very good motivation to our country. What is the wrong with innovations?

Well, our politicians have big ambitions, like the Satellite that went up there ...

As long as they do assembly of basic trainers, custom builds, there's nothing wrong. It does keep interest in aviation and all, nothing wrong, to be honest. Its a great recruitment tool for youngsters as well.

but the news that came out had high plans, like building the next F15 competitor ? :D

Where do you think this money comes from?

If SLAF needs money to build kit planes or assemble some trainers, for experience, and public interest and all, why not ?

As long as they don't progress to assembling SU 35s. Using PUBLIC Money. If they find a generous donor then it's a different issue...

LukeSkywalker

25-10-2017, 11:56 AM

Well, our politicians have big ambitions, like the Satellite that went up there ...

As long as they do assembly of basic trainers, custom builds, there's nothing wrong. It does keep interest in aviation and all, nothing wrong, to be honest. Its a great recruitment tool for youngsters as well.

but the news that came out had high plans, like building the next F15 competitor ? :D

If SLAF needs money to build kit planes or assemble some trainers, for experience, and public interest and all, why not ?

As long as they don't progress to assembling SU 35s. Using PUBLIC Money. If they find a generous donor then it's a different issue...

SLAF was developing some UAVs in conjunction with Moratuwa university, now that is something where money is well spent in building up expertise (not à la missile spewing global hawks as some would immediately have wet dreams of but more in the range of disaster management, crop monitoring etc).

Building trainers and kit planes I think it is a waste of time you can get cheaper reliable trainers from China instead of having to waste money building or lives testing them.

ecureilx

26-10-2017, 01:47 AM

Building trainers and kit planes I think it is a waste of time you can get cheaper reliable trainers from China instead of having to waste money building or lives testing them.

I may still disagree on that.

Building kit planes, trainers etc helps keep the general public's interest in aviation alive, and gives wanna be flyers some joy.

Like how in the past, those joy rides were great recruiting tools for Airforces to find talent.

PS, trainers, I meant the likes of Cirrus, Cessna, and such

LukeSkywalker

26-10-2017, 02:08 AM

I may still disagree on that.

PS, trainers, I meant the likes of Cirrus, Cessna, and such

Ah.. I get what you mean, that would be a good (assembling) instead of designing from scratch and building

Did SLAF fix ADB-S transponders in there aircraft? FR24 is tracking a flight with Callsign N581 and has started flight from the jet aircraft hanger from SLAF ( this flight is cruising at 1300ft at 100knots in a holding pattern over Puttalam.

Haleef

21-11-2017, 01:54 PM

Did SLAF fix ADB-S transponders in there aircraft? FR24 is tracking a flight with Callsign N581 and has started flight from the jet aircraft hanger from SLAF ( this flight is cruising at 1300ft at 100knots in a holding pattern over Puttalam.

No, no. That is a Training Cessna 172, which I think Sakurai Aviation got down to Colombo recently from US. It has still not been changed into a Sri Lankan registration yet.

SLD

22-11-2017, 10:02 AM

No, no. That is a Training Cessna 172, which I think Sakurai Aviation got down to Colombo recently from US. It has still not been changed into a Sri Lankan registration yet.
Anyway, why doesn't SLAF fix ADB-S transponders in Helitours flights?

Haleef

22-11-2017, 01:27 PM

Anyway, why doesn't SLAF fix ADB-S transponders in Helitours flights?

Not sure. Probably they might not like the idea of the public tracking their aircraft I guess.

Max

25-11-2017, 03:31 PM

Sri Lanka proposes increase in defence spending for 2018

The Sri Lankan government has proposed a 2018 defence budget of LKR290.7 billion (USD1.9 billion). The allocation is contained in the 2018 appropriation bill, which was presented to Sri Lanka’s parliament on 9 October.

The defence budget amounts to about 7% of total government expenditure for 2018, and marks a 2.3% increase over 2017 military expenditure, which totalled LKR284 billion.

The Sri Lankan government has proposed a 2018 defence budget of LKR290.7 billion (USD1.9 billion). The allocation is contained in the 2018 appropriation bill, which was presented to Sri Lanka’s parliament on 9 October.

The defence budget amounts to about 7% of total government expenditure for 2018, and marks a 2.3% increase over 2017 military expenditure, which totalled LKR284 billion.

The Pentagon has been running a secret multi-million dollar programme to investigate Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs), US media report.

Only a small number of officials were aware of the programme, which began in 2007 and was reportedly closed in 2012.

The New York Times says documents from the operation describe strange speeding aircraft and hovering objects.

The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Programme was the brainchild of Harry Reid, a retired Democratic senator who was the Senate majority leader at the time.

He told the New York Times: "I'm not embarrassed or ashamed or sorry I got this thing going. I've done something that no one has done before."

The programme is reported to have cost the Department of Defense more than $20 million before it was shut down in order to save costs.

Although its funding ended in 2012, officials have reportedly continued to investigate sightings of unusual aerial phenomena and suspicious objects alongside their daily duties.

Earlier this year, the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) released millions of pages of declassified documents online.

The records included UFO sightings and a collection of reports on flying saucers.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42379749

SLD

28-12-2017, 05:31 AM

flight N581 from Ratmalana is actually a SLAF Mi-17 helicopter.(I tracked it and saw it!)

Haleef

28-12-2017, 07:12 AM

flight N581 from Ratmalana is actually a SLAF Mi-17 helicopter.(I tracked it and saw it!)

Yes, even N582. It's the White UN helicopter. But before the white helicopter was here, N581 was the tracker for a Cessna 172 of Fairway Aviation.

SLD

30-01-2018, 07:40 AM

SLAF has started rehearsals for the 70th independence day celebrations.
A Kfir just flew over my house!!! :)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/150880199@N02/25110263487/in/dateposted-public/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150880199@N02/25110263487/in/dateposted-public/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/150880199@N02/26108483988/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/150880199@N02/39270540134/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/150880199@N02/25110263487/in/dateposted-public/

banuthev

30-01-2018, 10:43 AM

SLAF has started rehearsals for the 70th independence day celebrations.
A Kfir just flew over my house!!! :)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/150880199@N02/25110263487/in/dateposted-public/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150880199@N02/25110263487/in/dateposted-public/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/150880199@N02/26108483988/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/150880199@N02/39270540134/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/150880199@N02/25110263487/in/dateposted-public/

Thanks SLD. Looking forward to see more pictures

SLD & Haleef - do you have any plans to do photos during the independence day celebrations?

Haleef

30-01-2018, 10:46 AM

Thanks SLD. Looking forward to see more pictures

SLD & Haleef - do you have any plans to do photos during the independence day celebrations?

Yes! Nice pictures by the way! Will post on the forum! Going to do a shoot on the 4th!

SLD

30-01-2018, 02:51 PM

Thanks SLD. Looking forward to see more pictures

SLD & Haleef - do you have any plans to do photos during the independence day celebrations?
I'll try my best but the weather forecast shows that it is not a time to take outside pics:(

Does any one know the flight paths of the fighter jets or other SLAF planes after they pass Galle face?