Hi Stu, you must feel loved. I usually get socks and jocks for my birthday (and until now had considered I was doing well).

I'll be watching this thread with interest as I bought a 650t a few months ago and find it complicated. Had a few hiccups, one which was it didn't recognise the ACT when we drove into it :eek1. A day's driving around and it then discovered it. It would have had us drive on some lengthy trips if we didn't know it was wrong and take control. At least the girl telling us that the gps is 'recalculating' is now specking in a sexy french lauguage. Had it freeze a couple of time too.

Its my 50th at the weekend and I had the same idea and yep a montana will be on the way shortly.
Most I have seen have Garmin Oz Topo loaded as standard, and the cheapest I have found is $686 complete with car mount and includes the Oz topo mapping . I will have to fork out another $45 for the amps mount to get it on the bike.

What did you pay and where did you get it from with the Hema Maps loaded.

What's everyone's thoughts on Hema Maps versus Garmin Oz Topo ?

I know you can load multiple map sets but I am tight on cash and need to get the best bundle at the best price.

I've had my 650t for about seven months now. Actually, I'm on my second as the first crapped out on a ride with Dusty Rhodes (Steve/Yowie)

The problem with the first was that it lost the ability to find satellites. A bit of a bummer really when that's it's primary function.

To their credit GPSOz sent out a replacement very quickly. The unit, RAM mounts, bike mount, car mount, maps & 5 year warranty was about $900. I bought it on John Hudson from APC Rally's recommendation.

One way I'd suggest that you get used to it is to use it alongside your existing car GPS. That way you'll get to know it's idiosyncrasies in town in your car rather than in the Simpson Desert.

It's best feature in my opinion is the interface with Garmin Basecamp (you can download it for free) and build a route from Google Maps or get tracks from your mates (thanks Andy) and modify those as you go.

I'm not convinced that the unit has been tested properly for use on motorbikes (it sometimes freezes in calculating a route) and you'll probably feel like a beta-tester sometimes.

The battery connection is shit, you'll need to put a few layers of electrical tape on the battery to stop it disconnecting over rough ground (not good enough on a $900 unit in my opinion).

Overall, I'm very happy, but would be keen to install HEMA maps if someone can steer me in that direction.

I've had my 650t for about seven months now. Actually, I'm on my second as the first crapped out on a ride with Dusty Rhodes (Steve/Yowie)

The problem with the first was that it lost the ability to find satellites. A bit of a bummer really when that's it's primary function.

To their credit GPSOz sent out a replacement very quickly. The unit, RAM mounts, bike mount, car mount, maps & 5 year warranty was about $900. I bought it on John Hudson from APC Rally's recommendation.

One way I'd suggest that you get used to it is to use it alongside your existing car GPS. That way you'll get to know it's idiosyncrasies in town in your car rather than in the Simpson Desert.

It's best feature in my opinion is the interface with Garmin Basecamp (you can download it for free) and build a route from Google Maps or get tracks from your mates (thanks Andy) and modify those as you go.

I'm not convinced that the unit has been tested properly for use on motorbikes (it sometimes freezes in calculating a route) and you'll probably feel like a beta-tester sometimes.

The battery connection is shit, you'll need to put a few layers of electrical tape on the battery to stop it disconnecting over rough ground (not good enough on a $900 unit in my opinion).

Overall, I'm very happy, but would be keen to install HEMA maps if someone can steer me in that direction.

Thanks for starting the thread, Boneman

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Cheers Boneman.

I think the idea of using it in conjunction with my Garmin Nuvi is a great idea and actually thought of taking the Nuvi out and just using the Montana but this makes more sense!

On further inspection I have the TOPO Aus & NZ map V3 - Not Hema although I have seen it somewhere? Maybe a symbol on the box got me confused.

Base camp is great and again simple to use. It updated a few things when I initialized the unit.

Not sure what you mean about battery connection. Have you used the AA batteries in place of the Lithium Ion provided at any stage yet?

My first Montana shit itself after 1 1/2 days on Cape York. I got a replacement unit, after some hassles, and have used it from Bali throught to the China border via Indo, Malaysia, Thailand and Laos. I've had the battery disconnecting issue.... and I've had issues with the Garmin maps for SE Asia. Now I've got good maps, its great. I use the Nuvi display option btw. Several of the guys I've ridden with in northern Thailand have them too...

Well I did it, I went to Johhny Appleseed in Zilmere Brisbane and asked if he would pricematch the best I found on the internet which was $686 but he insisted on adding freight but would sell me either the auto or marine set up pack. As the marine set up includes the amps mount it saved me buying that seperately so I got the set up I needed for $701.56 to screw it straight to my dashboard.
It comes loaded with Oz Topo which is great for bush but not much good for the car as the search for "points of interest" and stuff like that is nowhere as good as a standard road based GPS. To get that full functionality you need to get City Navigator maps on it as well as Oz Topo. Garmin sell City Navigator for another $189 so with money being short I will scab an unlocked copy from one of the gurus.
I connected it up to the puter and registered it and downloaded the latest software updates and also downloaded the puter software for it which is called "basecamp". Basecamp is the new improved version of mapsource and is a free download from the Garmin website as it does not come in the box with the new unit.
I started customising the settings in the unit to suit my needs and triggered a few unexpected shutdowns. After a little search on the internet I found this site that explains known software issues and gives a portal to pass onto Garmin so they can fix in future software updates.http://garminmontanagpsr.wikispaces.com/Montana+Issues
Overall I am pleased so far but like the bike I have to go through all the issues and carry out the mods required to make this thing bulletproof on the bike, nothing comes "out of the box" set up for adventure riding.
Andy

Well I did it, I went to Johhny Appleseed in Zilmere Brisbane and asked if he would pricematch the best I found on the internet which was $686 but he insisted on adding freight but would sell me either the auto or marine set up pack. As the marine set up includes the amps mount it saved me buying that seperately so I got the set up I needed for $701.56 to screw it straight to my dashboard.
It comes loaded with Oz Topo which is great for bush but not much good for the car as the search for "points of interest" and stuff like that is nowhere as good as a standard road based GPS. To get that full functionality you need to get City Navigator maps on it as well as Oz Topo. Garmin sell City Navigator for another $189 so with money being short I will scab an unlocked copy from one of the gurus.
I connected it up to the puter and registered it and downloaded the latest software updates and also downloaded the puter software for it which is called "basecamp". Basecamp is the new improved version of mapsource and is a free download from the Garmin website as it does not come in the box with the new unit.
I started customising the settings in the unit to suit my needs and triggered a few unexpected shutdowns. After a little search on the internet I found this site that explains known software issues and gives a portal to pass onto Garmin so they can fix in future software updates.http://garminmontanagpsr.wikispaces.com/Montana+Issues
Overall I am pleased so far but like the bike I have to go through all the issues and carry out the mods required to make this thing bulletproof on the bike, nothing comes "out of the box" set up for adventure riding.
Andy

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Did you get a quote on a sammich box to suit? I am using RAM mounts but I know some of the real expert riders are using lunchboxes...

No the sammich box is going, its very sad, I can screw the amps mount straight to the dashboard but I will need to figure out a mount for the UHF, I want to upgrade the UHF to a car type unit but can't afford it for a while.
Andy

Mate, I called the retailer (GPSOz) & told them about the problem. The guy I was talking to must have looked it up on his computer via the Garmin Knowledge Base. It was a known problem with the Montana, and he suggested that I connect up the power cable (which I still haven't done) or put some tape on the battery.

The seal didn't seem affected, and there has been no dust ingress into the battery compartment. Can't offer any advice on the earplug solution...