You call three IronMan wins by Cormier (against guys like Flex Wheeler) on the decline?

Cormier was still an elite bodybuilder, placing 3rd at the Olympia in 2002.

Dex was well in the mix against Cormier then and eventually DEFEATED Cormier at the Olympia, at the Show of Strength, and at the ASC.

It seems that you (along with some others) are bent on making excuses as to why these guys (who didn't win the O) were surpassed by Jackson and Cutler, (who eventually DID win the O).

Dex defeated Ronnie and so did jay.... How bout branch who won 2 AC's he surely is a better bber than Cormier.

One thing u don't understand I'm not surprised is that dex was coming up and while these guys were already coming down, yes they were competitive but certainly not their best , flex was NOTHING to brag about in the early 2000's , levrone either, just cause they were winning some shows here and there mean jack shit cause goes to show how weak comp was.

For a 40 yr old thought u would understand but thinking outside of wins is too difficult for your fragile head u can't comprehend anything past an O win or AC and your only rebuttal is "your precious 90's guys"

Funny on this whole board u are the only one that no one agrees with wonder why?

Your precious dex is starting to look like shit but u can't see past that belly even thinking he doesn't have one, your other hero cutler is just a disgusting pile of crap that future bbers should never follow

My argument is "he beat this person or that person", in part, because the "this person" happens to be those beloved 90s bodybuilders such as Levrone, Cormier, El Sonbaty, Ray, just to name a few.

That's the case with one Jay Cutler, who supplanted Kevin Levrone as the #2 bodybuilder in the world and stayed there, until he finally got Ronnie Coleman and became Mr. Olympia (something Levrone, Ray, Wheeler, Cormier, Schlierkamp, and El Sonbaty never did).

Therefore, based on titles won, competitors defeated to win those titles, AND their actual physiques, I can confidently claim that Jay Cutler and Dexter Jackson are among the greatest bodybuilders of all time.

Why don't u put branch in there he won 2 AC titles therefore....

Like someone said "from titles won yes but physiques NO"

Lemme ask u if u could look like which of these bbers would u pick cutler or dex over a flex wheeler, Cormier , bob Paris, levrone.... ?? Answer this and don't dodge the question like u always do

Arnold should use his influence and lay down Thor's Hammer and revamp this mess. Since his political career is over, his movies fucking blow and the whole Mexican Arnold deal, AMI should let him clean this shit up in terms of what is acceptable on an IFBB stage. It would garner huge publicity and it would be good for the sport. A guy can dream.

Dex defeated Ronnie and so did jay.... How bout branch who won 2 AC's he surely is a better bber than Cormier.

One thing u don't understand I'm not surprised is that dex was coming up and while these guys were already coming down, yes they were competitive but certainly not their best , flex was NOTHING to brag about in the early 2000's , levrone either, just cause they were winning some shows here and there mean jack shit cause goes to show how weak comp was.

They weren't just winning shows here and there. They were placing high at the Olympia in the early 2000s, just as they were in the 90s (Levrone placed 2nd TWICE). And they were doing so against their peers from the 90s along with newer competitors. Or did you forget that, as well?

For a 40 yr old thought u would understand but thinking outside of wins is too difficult for your fragile head u can't comprehend anything past an O win or AC and your only rebuttal is "your precious 90's guys"

Funny on this whole board u are the only one that no one agrees with wonder why?

Your precious dex is starting to look like shit but u can't see past that belly even thinking he doesn't have one, your other hero cutler is just a disgusting pile of crap that future bbers should never follow

I must have missed the memo about not being able to make my point, unless othere people agree with me.

Your comments about Dex are beyond ridiculous. Even your precious 90s heroes (Flex Wheeler and Shawn Ray, for example) have praised Dex for his re-emergence. They say he's looks terrific, even better than when he won the real Olympia. Ray referred to Jackson as the Albert Beckles of this generation. Wheeler was honored to have Jackson tie his ASC record (a bold prediction he made, shortly after Dex won the Masters).

So, while Wheeler, Ray, and even Dennis James can give Dexter Jackson his due, folks like you continue to spew nonsense.

They all look terrible. Dexter's abs shoot out at a 45 degree angle at his navel when relaxed and everyone looks smooth to some degree or another. They all have big guts with tiny legs with the exception of some of the younger guys who haven't yet been transformed with the dreaded GH Slin combo.

They all look terrible. Dexter's abs shoot out at a 45 degree angle at his navel when relaxed and everyone looks smooth to some degree or another. They all have big guts with tiny legs with the exception of some of the younger guys who haven't yet been transformed with the dreaded GH Slin combo.

just yrs and yrs of same protocols i guess or taking more/combo's,,or just body burn out ,,took gaspari 5 yrs to do it..