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An anonymous reader writes "The Times Of Israel and AlArabiya.net report that the planned and announced April 7th attack by Anonymousfailedto frustrate the Israeli government or its citizens. The country's national Cyber Bureau quipped 'So far it is as was expected, there is hardly any real damage,' Ben Yisrael said. 'Anonymous doesn't have the skills to damage the country's vital infrastructure. And if that was its intention, then it wouldn't have announced the time of attack. It wants to create noise in the media about issues that are close to its heart,' he said."

What did Anonymous "win"? Nothing. They simply reaffirmed that they're a bunch of jobless losers living in their mothers' basements who have a hard time getting laid. If that weren't the case, they'd direct their energies elsewhere.

Nice. Now here's an idea: impersonate a Palestinian terrorist type in order to get close to a good-looking Israeli secret agent. One of the few times being a neckbearded basement-dweller with poor personal hygiene should actually work in a slashdotter's favor. Of course the end game is waking up in a small cell with electrodes on your genitals, and then not waking up at all, but if you play your cards right maybe you can get something more before that.

I'm sorry, but canned tuna doesn't belong on a pizza. On the other hand, though, corn goes well. Now if only the commoner in Israel could figure out that pizza is nasty when it's as dry as cardboard...

"Anonymous" claims to be acting against Israeli oppression of the Palestinians. Did they consult with any Palestinians about this attack? Or do they share the official Israeli point of view, that Palestinians are not worthy of their own point of view?

This kind of "help" occurs all the time though. I'm forced to buy health insurance in my own country, even though foreign plans would cover me just as well at a lower cost. I'm forced to pay for my retirement fund even though I've already provided for my days as a senior through other investments. Hell, I'm forced to fasten my goddamn seatbelt! Not that I wouldn't use it, but I certainly haven't been given any choice in the matter!

I doubt that a few defaced web sites or a barely-noticeable DDoS would concern the IDF or Mossad. Anonymous are like a bunch of virtually-unnoticeable gnats; Israel has real security concerns like rockets from Gaza and instability in Syria to worry about.

[Cyber Bureau bureaucrat] Ben Yisrael said. 'Anonymous doesn't have the skills to damage the country's vital infrastructure. And if that was its intention, then it wouldn't have announced the time of attack. It wants to create noise in the media about issues that are close to its heart,' he said."

On the one hand, a challenge response...on the other hand, a political response designed to defuse.

One of the big scores for Anonymous was that they defaced the page for Adalah.

Adalah is an organization providing probono legal help to Israeli minority citizens for discrimination cases.

Way to go, Anonymous. What a bunch of fuckwits.

(Added style points for starting this op on Holocaust Memorial Day, and trying to DDOS Yad Vashem.And for getting this op led by a citizen of Mauritania, the one remaining country that still has slavery.)

One of the big scores for Anonymous was that they defaced the page for Adalah.

Adalah is an organization providing probono legal help to Israeli minority citizens for discrimination cases.

Way to go, Anonymous. What a bunch of fuckwits.

(Added style points for starting this op on Holocaust Memorial Day, and trying to DDOS Yad Vashem.And for getting this op led by a citizen of Mauritania, the one remaining country that still has slavery.)

Mauritania heard Moses was coming to free some slaves, and part some seas!

But really, this Israel hate is laughable. People see the Israelis as invaders who locked out the Palestinians, yet the same people seem to never care that equal or greater numbers of Jews were banished from the multitude of Arab lands they called home for centuries.

Two wrongs != right, but one of them is often forgotten. I sympathize with the criticism, but not the outright hostility.

"I don't understand your optimism," Ben-Gurion declared. "Why should the Arabs make peace? If I were an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs. We come from Israel, it's true, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been antisemitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen

I love it when people refer to "Anonymous" as a coherent entity, or even one with a defined membership or even single motive.

"Anonymous" is not a group, but a tactic, or even a posting style. It comes from message boards that work like this one, and is dirrectly analougous to the "Anonymous Coward" on this site. So fellow/.'ers.

So its highly likely "Anonymous" is really many many diffrent groups and inviduals with diffrent, and even contradictory or even opposing views and goals using the exact same tactic. Just the same as the AC on/.

I think you can judge how popular an idea by judging how many people actually show up to attack it, and the group that does the attacking. Of course you don't know, but just guess via their skillsets.

If this were true, then why would the Israeli propaganda machine be downplaying the effectiveness of the attacks? Instead, you'd expect them to be wailing about the terrible carnage about to be unleashed on society by Anonymous, unless their "cyber-warrior" budgets are immediately increased and a slew of new controls imposed on the internet --- not saying that already existing infrastructure is already 100% effective at preventing real damage.

If this were true, then why would the Israeli propaganda machine be downplaying the effectiveness of the attacks? Instead, you'd expect them to be wailing about the terrible carnage about to be unleashed on society by Anonymous, unless their "cyber-warrior" budgets are immediately increased and a slew of new controls imposed on the internet --- not saying that already existing infrastructure is already 100% effective at preventing real damage.

...And you clearly don't know enough about Israel or what it is like to live in constant fear.The last thing they want is to alarm their people.And they seem to pull it off quite well, look it up. Safest airports in the world, 0 body scanners. Just well trained people.AND the majority of the country has gone through the required 3 years of military training, so their population does not need to be treated like the sheep that the US population is treated as

As bad as you outed yourself on slashdot Jeremiah Cornelius http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3581857&cid=43276741 [slashdot.org] pasting that crap in hundreds of posts on slashdot for all of last month by anonymous submissions but slipping up on that one, giving away it was you doing it annoying the rest of us?

I don't think he outed himself by posting his google docs account as much as he did by posting from eponymous slashdot account with account number 137(!!!!). That's about as genuine as anything I would ever trust on the Internet.

I wouldn't slip like that. I'd use a different browser, without cookies enabled, specifically to do such crapflooding - were I so inclined.

I was amused by the intersection of so many crapflood and troll memes in ONE post. Seeing the pity that this was -1 Troll, and I had no mod points, I replicated the post to elevate it with my borrowed Karma, that others with more humour than yourself might enjoy.

Good point but the possibilities are varied. It might be that the US or some other state wants to throw money at cyberwar prevention (a bogus issue most of the time), so Israeli contractors have one succesfully thwarted attack in their track record.Or OTOH Israel has some infrastructure problems and that they fake an Anonymous attack to deter other from trying the same.

I'm absolutely certain that the US wants to throw money at the boogeyman of cyberwar --- however, they've already got a propaganda line. Look at all the fear-mongering in the media about Chinese hacking; this is the credible enemy of which we are supposed to be terrified. As for deterring a real anonymous attack against vulnerable infrastructure by posing as anonymous --- this seems overly risky, based on the way anonymous functions. Indeed, anyone can pose as anonymous, by announcing upcoming attack plans

Really? Can I be anonymous? I don't have to get someone's permission first? I don't need to apply for a permit, or a license? That's just awesome!

Oh - wait - What about that "trusted computing" crap? And government tracking? And, corporate tracking? And, don't forget the proposed laws that would have government and corporations sharing all that tracking information.

Maybe only the computer savvy minorities can be anonymous. Of the people that I know, I

Israel is pretty terrible at managing perceptions. I wouldn't attribute to them this degree of subtlety. For all the talk of the size of the jewish lobby, its effectiveness is pretty abysmal. How else can you explain that Israel (1) doesn't get to define its own capital; (2) doesn't get to lawfully annex East Jerusalem even though it is an acceptable international law that territory conquered in a war can be legally annexed; (3) must answer for building buildings as if it were equivalent to burning down

It's not even remotely true, but hey it has nothing to do with the argument at hand, so I will not bother to debunk it. Given the level of sadistic vitriol in your statement, you already heard the rational arguments which prove you wrong, but you want to cherry pick facts which make it seem like you are right and spew them, anyway. Have at it.

Even the tiniest tin-pot dictatorships can have noisy propaganda machines (or do you think info from North Korea's state media is truthful?); even larger corporations can flood the media with propaganda. And the Israeli government's propaganda is given free amplification by the US, which makes it by far the most pervasive voice in shaping perceptions about everything that goes on in Israel's section of the world.

North Korea doesn't allow free reports roam free across its territory. Israel even allows BBC and Al Jazeera (both state media of hostile regimes) to be report freely. Oh, and for any Brit sycophan, spare me the line about BBC not being a state medium. And if you are feeling like reaching for "you have no idea how..." type of statement.... I do have a pretty good idea as to state medium of any state works. Brits have a history of using propaganda to advance their causes around the globe. BBC is no diff

Isreal hardly needs to use propaganda to make their neighbors look like homocidal maniacs who when not screeching about Isreal are busy killing their own citizens. The only thing that unites the entire middle east is their hatred of Isreal. This hatred is used by the governments to deflect attention from their own shortcomings. These are the same governments who really do not want the Isreal-Palestinian conflict to end. They would lose the one thing that they can use to manipulate their citizens. Isreal did

You really think anything is "won fair and square in war" --- that "I've got bigger weapons and am better at killing your folks than you are mine" justifies "therefore, all your stuff belongs to us"? To you and anyone who shares your "might makes right" philosophy: fuck you. Attitudes like yours make it clear that "homocidal maniacs" aren't exclusive to the "other side."

you forget that it was Isreal that was the one being attacked during the seven days war everyone around them were the aggressors they won land after they were attacked this was hardly they bigger stick situation you describe.

I don't care so much "who started it"* in the playground fight, that doesn't justify the stronger bully walking away with the weaker kid's lunch money, and declaring him his bitch for life. Nor does groups of Palestinians being militarily evicted by other countries justify their plight (being a persecuted loser doesn't make you worthy of said fate either; one might think that more Israelis might have more introspection on that point, given significant facts in their past history).

The entire conflict between Israel and the palestinians could be resolved if the palestinians and their supporters would come out in the open and offer Isreal the only thing they need, security. No more driving the jews into the sea rhetoric. Remove the intent to destroy Isreal that is stated without reservation in the Hamas charter. Remove the map of Palestine that shows no Isreal that is currently hanging in Abbas office. Silence the so called leaders that live in foreign countries and loudly promote viol

Abbas has repeatedly offered the following to Israel to settle things once and for all:

A two-state solution marked by the 1967 borders, East Jerusalem as the Palestinian capital and a cessation by Israel of building settlements on Palestinian lands. In exchange for that, complete and unequivocal peace.

To date, Israel has rejected all offers and continues to confiscate Palestinian lands which it then builds subsidized (by U.S. tax dollars) housing, continues to expel Palestinians from East Jerusalem despite

Lets not forget that Israel assassinated high UN officials who dared suggest the two state solution or any solution that didn't involve giving (what would come to be Israel) all the land. Yes this was before Israel was formed but David Ben Gurion rewarded the assassin by making him his closest adviser and confidante which cannot be seen as anything other than endorsement of the act.

Read the party manifest of Likud and the other right wing parties they formed a government with, they say very similar things

There will never be a Palestinian state until the threats and violence against Israel comes to an end. The Israelis have the upper hand in any military conflict and asking them to lay down and let the nice and peaceful Palestinians invade their neighborhoods to setup better firing positions is ridiculous. The entire issue of Palestine was created to cause Israel problems after the Arabs finally figured out that any more military adventures on their part was not going to end very well. Classic military tacti

It does not matter which political party holds sway in Isreal. Even the most suicidal "give peace a chance party" is not going give up a single foot of land until they feel safe. So far they have seen no indication that the attacks would stop if only Isreal stopped settlements and set formal 2 state borders. There is no trust between the parties in this conflict. Look at that entire region of the world and you do not see anyone peacefully coexisting with other who might look different or have different idea

They very easily could say that externally while internally screaming. Given the amount of funding of their country that comes from the US government, they don't have to tell the public anything at all to get an increase in funding. They've had a blank check from the US for over 50 years.

No they have not. It was not until 1973 that the US provided military re-supply. To obtain this cooperation required Isreal to issue orders to arm their F-4s and Jericho missile with nukes. The order was announced in the clear to insure everyone knew what they were doing. This is what promted Nixon to agree to resupply Israel.

It is the new Al-CIAda, designed to justify the elimination of the free internet as we once knew it.

Yeah, so you don't know many twenty-something, single, idealistic computer geeks. If they're CIA, the CIA is pretty silly. I suppose that doesn't rule out the possibility of useful idiots, but the idea that the bulk of Anonymous is secret agents appears to be highly unlikely.

It is the new Al-CIAda, designed to justify the elimination of the free internet as we once knew it.

Ask yourself, who really benefits from the activities of "Anonymous"? The neocons and the military industrial complex, spreading fear so that we beg for the internet to be regulated and censored.

Don't fall for it.

*sigh* Of course it is. It can't possibly be immature, short-sighted kiddies taking advantage of easy targets for the notoriety, completely unable to comprehend the long-term policy effects of their actions due to a solipsistic culture that rewards selfishness and impulsiveness for an unattainable anarchic utopia best described as "self-serving", "sophomoric", or "on the same level as junior high self-insert power-fantasy fanfics". That'd just be silly, right? Imagine that, thinking that a bunch of noisy