Seriously though. People have an idea of what they want, call it X. So when BlackBerry makes something "not X", be it the Passport (we want full touch), the Classic (we want full touch), or the Leap (we want bleeding edge specs that 99% of us don't need or properly understand) then they complain.

And the cycle/contract talk is somewhat pointless since the carriers don't carry the devices anyway.

I don't HATE Leap. I just won't buy one. They should have come up with something at least as good as Z30, which I have two of them,or something as good as Passport, which I have three of them; two for myself and one for my wife. They could have done a better job than Leap.

I just received mine from amazon today and it actually a very nice device no cheap look or feel. The leap is very sturdy and feels solid to me, I think it will take a few weeks after launch for the real information to get out. The camera works well also.

I just received mine from amazon today and it actually a very nice device no cheap look or feel. The leap is very sturdy and feels solid to me, I think it will take a few weeks after launch for the real information to get out.

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Those that have purchased and are now using the LEAP seem to agree with you.. they LOVE the phone!

Leap just seems desperate. BlackBerry needed to have a new phone, so they threw together some of the stockpile of old processors and parts from phones that didn't sell before (Z30 and Z10) and made the Z3, Leap and Classic. I get that 'specs' don't always matter as long as the phone performs as expected or better. BUT... first you have to get that phone into buyers hands, and the cold, dead truth is that people do look at those 'specs' and they do surely influence initial buying decisions.

Why would I spend MORE money on a Leap with less under the hood, than on a comparable phone with greater specs? Yes, I may, but it will give me pause and make me think I might just not be getting a stellar deal here with this phone over another- probably less expensive and just as well made- phone that does have it. Companies do indeed hype the specs- on computers, cars, phones, heck- everything! Why? Because those specs influence people's buying decisions. Just the real real there.

I also get that NFC, HDMI, etc are rarely used elements of phones in the real world. So BlackBerry doesn't include them. Fine. So that should help the price point of the phone, yes? Doesn't seem so in the BlackBerry Leap's case. I still see that I'm paying more for the BlackBerry product than the similar that does (or doesn't) have it. Why? The days of me buying BlackBerry just because it is- are over. BlackBerry just doesn't have that kind of juice anymore.

I see the Leap as just an older phone in a different new wrapping. Sadly, I think most people do also. This is a $199 phone at the stretch. I just can't see myself dropping close to $300 on this device for the years old re-package it is.

The problem with the Leap is that it fails to replace the z10 or z30 for the majority of users. No NFC, no 5ghz wifi, no HdMi, poor speakers, compared to the z30 and low end specs. We don't have a full touch screen replacement to upgrade to. I have been a BlackBerry user since 2003 and I am now looking forward to Windows 10 phone. Only other option as I don't like Android or iCrap.

I dont know why a lot of z10/z30 users are complaining about the Leap, I have a message for those people... THE LEAP IS NOT AN UPGRADE FOR THE Z30 for Gods sake, its a mid/mid low-end phone, the Z10/Z30 were/are high-end phones.

The upgrade for the high ends phones will come soon, and they will cost ~600US$/€ and all of you will be happy...

I dont know why a lot of z10/z30 users are complaining about the Leap, I have a message for those people... THE LEAP IS NOT AN UPGRADE FOR THE Z30 for Gods sake, its a mid/mid low-end phone, the Z10/Z30 were/are high-end phones.

The upgrade for the high ends phones will come soon, and they will cost ~600US$/ and all of you will be happy...

No they won't, they'll whine about the price. They'll demand it for <$500 because it has less apps than the iPhone.

For a budget smartphone the BlackBerry Leap is priced out of the reach of the target market. Rogers Wireless and Bell Mobility each charge CAD350.00 for this smartphone; a more accurate price should be CAD199.00 just as the BlackBerry Z10 should have been proced at launch in 2012.