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11/7/2014 6:57 PM

A nose, a head or a neck. The horse lost. Get over it. Bayern beat him. Beat CC again. Now two out of three. Bayern has proved him to be the better of the two horses, albeit in the last few months, to be the better of the three year olds.
End of story.

11/7/2014 6:33 PM

Sure, understoood. But I don't think the Classic was controversial. He won. He proved best. Shared Belief got beat. He wasn't going to win that day. And Toast of NY wasn't going to win either.
And California Chrome had the best possible trip. He didn't fire like he did in the SA Derby, KY Derby. No excuses.
This is a year where endurance and stamina stands out as much as anything else. And voters appreciate that as much as anything else.

11/7/2014 6:28 PM

11/7/2014 6:25 PM

Mary, as a CC fan I have to disagree. Bayern won the Classic. The horse beat CC two out of three. Hard one to swallow but you have to give him credit. Bayern raced ten races at seven different states and beat multiple
Grade 1 racehorses. He endured the most and lasted the longest in a long, long year. Bayern, in a year that spotlighted three year old males, endured the most and lasted the longest. At least to now, that is.

11/7/2014 6:11 PM

11/7/2014 6:02 PM

Nope.
Main Sequence will not win the HOY over Bayern. At this point the HOY is Bayern's to lose.
Down year for turf horses. The story of the year belonged to three year old males.
Bayern lasted the longest. And will and should win the HOY.

6/11/2014 7:42 PM

johnston 7641 - you've hit the nail on the head. Congrats to you for getting it. Don't give a rat's a.. what he said. Hell, Woody Stephens said more things worse than what Mr. Coburn ever said. Over at BH, at certain author penned six paragraphs and over 1,000 words making Mr. Coburn a racing pariah. For God sakes move on. California Chrome, as I suspect, will return to the races. In the meantime, get ready for the summer shows of Del Mar and Saratoga.

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A nose, a head or a neck. The horse lost. Get over it. Bayern beat him. Beat CC again. Now two out of three. Bayern has proved him to be the better of the two horses, albeit in the last few months, to be the better of the three year olds.
End of story.

Sure, understoood. But I don't think the Classic was controversial. He won. He proved best. Shared Belief got beat. He wasn't going to win that day. And Toast of NY wasn't going to win either.
And California Chrome had the best possible trip. He didn't fire like he did in the SA Derby, KY Derby. No excuses.
This is a year where endurance and stamina stands out as much as anything else. And voters appreciate that as much as anything else.

You don't? Okay. Let me tell you a little story, and my stories are usually long, but I will try to rein it in. I live in Phoenix, cradle of idiocy. I am not originally from here. I have neighbors who, if an alien spaceship landed in the middle of the cul de sac, would pretend to not notice a thing, because it is not "cool" to notice anything. Somehow cool to be all vague-faced. I'd rather someone pitch a full-on fit to show they are alive than to have that vague-faced beige way. Okay, back to tidying my nest. I have something :) to do in a few days.

Darn, it just goes on. That close finish by CC means he was a fart away, his or another's fart from winning. Didn't fire? Should I be watching races the way you do? Expression on my face. It would be one of , "What the?"

A nose, a head or a neck. The horse lost. Get over it. Bayern beat him. Beat CC again. Now two out of three. Bayern has proved him to be the better of the two horses, albeit in the last few months, to be the better of the three year olds.
End of story.

Mary, as a CC fan I have to disagree. Bayern won the Classic. The horse beat CC two out of three. Hard one to swallow but you have to give him credit. Bayern raced ten races at seven different states and beat multiple
Grade 1 racehorses. He endured the most and lasted the longest in a long, long year. Bayern, in a year that spotlighted three year old males, endured the most and lasted the longest. At least to now, that is.

If you can forgive the really rotten losses. I mean, The Preakness is forgivable, But not the Travers. Voters will be weighing the two TC race wins against the controversial Classic, and the Haskell, plus the PA Derby.

Sure, understoood. But I don't think the Classic was controversial. He won. He proved best. Shared Belief got beat. He wasn't going to win that day. And Toast of NY wasn't going to win either.
And California Chrome had the best possible trip. He didn't fire like he did in the SA Derby, KY Derby. No excuses.
This is a year where endurance and stamina stands out as much as anything else. And voters appreciate that as much as anything else.

You don't? Okay. Let me tell you a little story, and my stories are usually long, but I will try to rein it in. I live in Phoenix, cradle of idiocy. I am not originally from here. I have neighbors who, if an alien spaceship landed in the middle of the cul de sac, would pretend to not notice a thing, because it is not "cool" to notice anything. Somehow cool to be all vague-faced. I'd rather someone pitch a full-on fit to show they are alive than to have that vague-faced beige way. Okay, back to tidying my nest. I have something :) to do in a few days.

Darn, it just goes on. That close finish by CC means he was a fart away, his or another's fart from winning. Didn't fire? Should I be watching races the way you do? Expression on my face. It would be one of , "What the?"

A nose, a head or a neck. The horse lost. Get over it. Bayern beat him. Beat CC again. Now two out of three. Bayern has proved him to be the better of the two horses, albeit in the last few months, to be the better of the three year olds.
End of story.

Nope.
Main Sequence will not win the HOY over Bayern. At this point the HOY is Bayern's to lose.
Down year for turf horses. The story of the year belonged to three year old males.
Bayern lasted the longest. And will and should win the HOY.

So you are saying Main Sequences performance outdid Bayerns? hello Bayern raced a mile and fourth in 1:59 and change. When you go under 2 minutes and go to wire to wire and face the opposition he did then i would say that his win was way better than main sequences win. Do your homework and research before posting such idiocracy. lol

Obviously you never looked at Main Sequence's distances or times, or who he beat. A mile and a half in 2:24.91, and his final quarter was easily under 24 seconds (he went from 7th to 1st). That is a jaw dropping performance to anybody who does not ignore the turf races.
And while under 2 minutes is impressive, I am not saying it isn't, this isn't Churchill Downs. The track record is 1:57.8 at Santa Anita, sub-two minute 10f races are much more common there.
Anyway as I implied, single performances do not win a HOTY. Main Sequence won 4 straight G1 races. Many Hall of Famers never accomplished that. Bayern finished first in 2 G1s and last in 2 other G1s. Bayern had an outstanding season, but Main Sequence's season was far better.

johnston 7641 - you've hit the nail on the head. Congrats to you for getting it. Don't give a rat's a.. what he said. Hell, Woody Stephens said more things worse than what Mr. Coburn ever said. Over at BH, at certain author penned six paragraphs and over 1,000 words making Mr. Coburn a racing pariah. For God sakes move on. California Chrome, as I suspect, will return to the races. In the meantime, get ready for the summer shows of Del Mar and Saratoga.