gives to the prosecution the right for each prosecutor to
cross-examime and there is, on the other land, Article 18 which
directs the Tribunal to take strict measures to prevent any action
which will cause unreasonable delay, and, in the opinion of the
Tribunal, in the present case the subject has been fully covered and
the Tribunal therefore thinks it right to adhere to the rules which
it has laid down in this case. It will therefore not hear any further
cross-examination?

Do you wish to re-examine, Dr. Kauffmann?

DR. KAUFFMANN: I will be very brief.

Re-DIRECT EXAMINATION

BY DR. KAUFFMANN:

Q. Witness, in the affidavit which was just read, you said
under point 2 that "at least an additional half million died through
starvation and disease." I ask you, in what period of time did this
take place? Was it towards the end of the war or was this fact
observed by you already at an earlier period?

A. No, it all goes back to the last years of the war, that
is beginning with the end of 1942.

Q. Under point 3 - do you still have the affidavit
before you?

A. No.

DR. KAUFFMANN: May I ask that it be given to the witness again?

BY DR. KAUFFMANN:

Q. Under point 3, at the end you state that "orders for
protective custody, commitments, punishments, and special executions
were signed by Kaltenbrunner or Müller, Chief of the Gestapo, as
Kaltenbrunner's Deputy." Thus, do you wish to contradict that which
you stated previously?

A. No, this only confirms what I said before. I repeat
again that I saw only very few decrees signed by Kaltenbrunner; most
of them were signed by Müller.

Q. Under point 4, at the end, you state, "All mass
executions through gassing took place under the direct order,
supervision and responsibility of the R.S.H.A. I received all orders
for carrying out these mass executions directly from R.S.H.A."
According to the statements, which you previously made to the
Tribunal, these orders came to you directly from Himmler through
Eichmann, who had been personally delegated. Do you maintain that now
as before?

A. Yes.

Q. With this last sentence, under point 4, do you wish to
contradict that which you testified before?

Q. Under point 7, at the end, you state - I am not
going to read it - you say that even though exterminations took
place secretly, the population in the outlying districts knew
something of this extermination of people. Was there not at an
earlier period of time - that is, before the beginning of this
special extermination action - something of a similar nature
taking place as regards the bodies of people who had died in a normal
manner in Auschwitz?

A. Yes, even before the crematoria were built, we burned
large numbers of those who had died, and who could not be cremated in
the provisional crematoria of the camp, in large pits; a large
number - I don't recall the figure any longer - were buried
in mass graves and later also cremated in these graves. That was
before the mass executions of Jews began.

Q. Would you agree with me if I were to say that from the
fact which is described here, we cannot conclusively prove that this
was concerned with the extermination of Jews?

A. No, this could in no way be concluded from that. The
population -

THE PRESIDENT: What was your question about?

DR. KAUFFMANN: My question was whether one could assume from the
established facts, especially at the end of paragraph 7, that this
concerned the so-called exter-