On 2009-12-20 11:14, The Sperm Whale wrote:Dear Lucas-
I was just wondering if there is a difference between hippies and long hairs? Also, which is cooler in your eyes A) Stoners or B) Hippies ?

Later,
Spermy

I think we would have to agree on a definition for "long Hair"...because that could cover everyone from General Custer

to the lead singer of the band Poison!

But to answer your first question, in my opinion there is a difference between Hippies and long hairs. I honestly believe one can be a hippy and have short or shortish hair. Now, there will be some identifying attributes to a hippy, though.

1. "Hackey Sack". Hippies use them, like them (and have larger versions which they call bean-bags).

2. "Djembe". I know, I keep bringing them up..but a hippy will always have at least one Djembe around the house. (Rarely other types of percussion, though. And even if they do, they won't play them with any sort of rythem). Sometimes you can even see the hippies banging away on their Djembes "en masse", )like down at the huntington pier). But keep in mind, to be a proper Djembe-hippy, you must also have a beautific smile on your face while flailing away at the drum, with eyes cast up to the heavens.

5. "Hippy smirk". This is what most of the members of the band "phish" have on their faces at all times. And yes, you guessed it: it's because they have "trust funds".

To answer the second part of your question, stoners are clearly cooler. You see, stoners might also be skaters,

and that's always considered cool.

But, growing tofu on a collective in the hills above Berkley, california is not as cool as being a skater. (Even if your Hippy girlfriend is kind of hot, resembling Jessica Biel in a "Good Lord, you are cute but I wish you would take a bath" kind of way....)

He looks even more like Big tiki dude then big tiki dude does! Eden Ahbez is a very tough question. The man is clearly a hippy, but he writes EXOTICA!!! That is so crazy and insane it totally works! "Nature Boy" is a classic. My favorite version is that of Avante Garde trumpeter, Jon Hassell...off the album "fascinoma"

plus I wouldn't say that Stevie was a Hippie.
maybe in a very Vague way she could come off that way.
but She was into coke, not weed right?

Jeff(btd)

Stevie Nicks...Hippy in the sense that you could totally see her dancing by herself in some mystic forest clearing, grooving with a pict....

But then again, she sings with Tom Petty on "leather and lace", which is NOT a hippy song.

(Hippies can evolve, and are subject to genetic mutations, like anyone else.)

For example, by the 3-4th generation, the offspring of hippies could become, say, Garth Brooks fans. (But this would depend on the amount of solar radiation and if there were a lot of sun spots/solar storms in a given year.)

Clearly, if the same chick who talked about "Morning maniac music" at woodstock could sing "we built this city", then anything is possible! (Grace Slick, not Stevie Nicks)

That's pretty damning evidence that JR would probably like to see dissapear!

I actually thought about this slant, of hippy to short-hair, but it's too obvious. As people get older, they start losing hair (yeah, I'm an expert on that subject) so it's not too hard to find hippies who cleaned up later due to male pattern balding....!! (I guess an obvious example would be Neil Peart, drummer for RUSH....)

I am glad some of you are getting the humorous aspect to this thread! (After all, who doesn't look at a picture of several hippies playing hacky-sack and start laughing!...well, maybe the hippies themselves...they tend to be a rather humor-less lot!)

I'm not going to pull a Brett Favre and talk "too much" on this topic
(learned my lesson from the Mickey Hart thread) but I strongly disagree
that hippies are humorless. I used to spend a lot of time with hippies...
the 60s and 70s version...and they laughed all the time.

Hey, I just turned 60 last Monday, so I knew my share of Hippies. My friends and I were long-hairs. ala Buffalo Springfield etc. Long hair, fringed jackets, jeans and either converse tennis shoes or cowboy boots, take your pick. Growing up in Tucson, cowboy boots were in. As far as Hippies being without humor, not so. We all laughed our way through the 60s. And being close to the border with good, cheap pot, the laughing came pretty easy.