Sunday, April 16, 2017

Apparently they were incensed by the "alt-right leader's" declaration that Bill Clinton is a rapist:

Controversial alt-right provocateur Mike Cernovich appears to have been punched in the face at an anti-Trump rally in Austin, TX on Saturday after repeatedly yelling "Bill Clinton is a rapist" at the crowd.

The right-wing vlogger livestreamed his protest of the rally calling for President Trump to release his tax returns, and the footage appears to show rally goers shouting obscenities, pushing and shoving protest signs in front of Cernovich's face.

The livestream on Periscope then abruptly ends when Cernovich's phone falls after seemingly taking a hit.

Cernovich caught the angry mob on film. Watch how feral they are. These are not normal people. They are in a cult. Mike Cernovich was sucker punched. Cernovich took reasonable measures to defend himself.

As I mentioned after Richard Spencer was attacked, be sure to have a group of at least four with you if you're going to confront the dyscivilizational. They're herd animals and they work each other up to attacks on unaccompanied individuals. They're not natural fighters; you can see the way they have to loom and posture, but they will eventually attack if they feel sufficiently confident.

That being said, people have to stop being stupid and learn the basic tricks and tactics utilized by Black Bloc. There is no excuse for managing to get yourself isolated and ambushed; the false retreat was old when the Parthians were using it against the Romans. 21 were arrested yesterday after the most recent Berkeley skirmish.

Stewart Rhodes, founder of the citizen militia group known as the Oath Keepers, said he came from Montana with about 50 others to protect Trump supporters. They were joined by bikers and others who vowed to fight members of an anti-fascist group if they crossed police barricades.

But Rhodes credited Berkeley police for new tactics that mostly kept the two sides apart and “our side chilled and relaxed,” though sporadic fights broke out among both groups throughout the morning and afternoon.

“It’s getting sporty,” said Oath Keeper John Karriman, 59, who is from Missouri and was among the group’s security leaders.

AJ Alegria, 31, of Sacramento said he also came to Berkeley to help defend Trump supporters. He said he pursued a counter-demonstrator down a side street and found himself surrounded by a dozen protesters in black masks who he said attacked him with sticks and pepper spray.

“These people create violence all the time... somebody has to stand up to them,” said Alegria, who was injured in the fight.

The problem, as usual, is that conservatives fail to grasp that they are in a war. You simply cannot place any trust in the SJW-amenable authorities. And you need to prepare for physical conflict, by wearing a mouthguard, multiple layers under a thick leather jacket, and safety glasses, at a bare minimum. There is probably a small business opportunity in putting metal reinforcement inside stocking caps and baseball hats to protect the head.

We were told by the city not to bring anything that could be used as a weapon. Our people, for the most part, complied. The antifa did not and brought mace, sticks, poles, and M80 fireworks. We were there to hear speakers. They were there to start a fight.

Cerno took the stage like a boss! He turned the Anti Trump rally into "Bill Clinton is a rapist" rally. It was magnificent, him coming in front of the crowd, that soon turned into animals. Afterwards, he and Joe Biggs handled the attacker. Mike is the beast!

I noticed the same thing. Before based stickman the police were content to let leftists wail on Trump supporters. Now that Trump supporters are starting to fight back effectively, the police suddenly remember how to employ crowd control.

I watched cernovich's live periscope when he got hit. Seeing how that crowd behaves,it would be too easy for someone to stab him with a small knife with no one seeing it hapoen.Anyone engaging in these events should be reading through this:

. . . will protect against cuts and abrasions, but will do nothing about blunt force trauma. Punch a wall. Now put a metal plate on the wall and punch it. You'll feel the same feedback in your fist, as the force of your punch is simply transferred through the metal to the wall.

Now put a piece of styrofoam on the wall and punch it- big difference as the compression of the foam absorbs the energy.

The center right learns very slowly...but they are learning. That means more center rightists in the hospital, and eventually some in the morgue when antifa escalates to real weapons. But it has to happen this way. They're not capable of learning from information. They have to have it beaten into them, literally.

Beneath that micron thick veneer of civility, authority and morality damn near every libtard an angry child like beast. Thank god for the last several decades conservative intellectuals have not done a thing to provoke them.

Reasonable defense would include tumb tacks ,that have been in the garden dirt, pushed thru the back of a hat to give sucker punchers the gift of tetanus. What's the likelihood leftists would be current on their shots?

will protect against cuts and abrasions, but will do nothing about blunt force trauma.

Mini spikes on the outside part would hurt the first more than the blunt force would hurt you. Might even be better if there are bad mushrooms or poison ivy that the outside part "fell onto".

Just think amazon saying " People who bought porcupine cap also bought deaths head mushroom spores"

Seeing how that crowd behaves,it would be too easy for someone to stab him with a small knife with no one seeing it hapoen.

A couple of slash resistant t shirts or tops would be a good investment for those on the right. I wouldn't be surprised if many on the right had chainsaw protective clothing they could bring to protests.

turned the Anti Trump rally into "Bill Clinton is a rapist" rally.

Just wait until the video comes out of Crooked Eye Clinton face down in Haitian cheese!!

@11 kfg - Now put a piece of styrofoam on the wall and punch it- big difference as the compression of the foam absorbs the energy.

It was interesting to see the variety of headgear at the these events. The helmet of choice appears to be a baseball helmet (a la Based Stick Man) which does have some cushioning inside. Ski helmets were also popular (but Lauren, the goggles are meant to be strapped on the outside!). I also saw some bicycle helmets which I suppose are better than nothing, and even a motorcycle helmet.

Of course, none of these will be of much help in preventing a concussion. And they all put a target on your back. I like VD's idea of a more subtle type of head protection.

Industrial safety equipment providers make "bump cap" inserts for baseball caps that will provide some minimal protection from glancing blows, such as thrown items (batteries, etc.) and will certainly provide more protection against a slashing knife attack than fabric alone. They're better than nothing and almost undetectable under a cap. I wore one in my MAGA hat at the Inauguration of the God-Emperor. I now wear such a hat everyday now.

Also, no one should ever be at one of these events (or really, out in public) without wearing safety glasses. There are companies that make versions that look just like normal eyeglasses or sunglasses, and don't scream "I"m wearing safety goggles!" My advice: stick with conservative styles and avoid the "tacticool, Special Operator" versions. Blend in, don't stand out.

Any number of online sources sell "sap caps" which are baseball caps with a high density material or bird shot sewn into the fabric. Completely discreet and effective, if you know what I mean.

The ubiquitous keychain carabiners make a nice improvised knuckle-"protector", again if you know what I mean.

Motorcycle gear is a good idea. Plausible deniability, excellent head/face/eye protection. Some jeans have kevlar. A lot of the gloves have knuckle protection. Some boots have steel toe caps. Have seen jackets with riveted metal plates, but even the standard hard shell impact armor should protect much of the torso from blades.

The right needs to adopt leftist-style scumbag tactics in order to win. There ought to be a right-wing George Soros paying a bunch of black people to go do a BLM protest and instigate a fight with the cops. We need agent provocateurs in there in order to make the leftists look bad to normies. The Milo Berkley riot was a victory for us, not them. They need to be made to look more rabid and feral and dyscivilizational.

Have a squad of heavily armored "bruisers" and then another 2 squads of lightly protected covert group members. The bruisers draw the fire and the covert members strike from behind at those who engage the bruisers.You could have a lot of fun with tactics at these events. Bust out the sand table!!!

Wanderer wrote: We need agent provocateurs in there in order to make the leftists look bad to normies. The Milo Berkley riot was a victory for us, not them. They need to be made to look more rabid and feral and dyscivilizational.

Antifa, BB, and BLM are always going to get favorable coverage from the MSM. They simply won't show or report things damaging to their pets.

The biggest threat isnt from being hit on the head with a stick, its from being hit by rocks and chunks of debris being tossed around. Laura Southern was saved by her ball helmet from a chunk of debris. A ball helmet is pretty reasonable.

At minimum you should have head, forearm protection, hand protection and a jock. Most of these can be discrete and hidden in your clothes. I'd put on a padded hockey undershirt as well. its discrete, light and provides some basic protection.

I'd bring a newspaper too. Police in north america will confiscate obvious weapons, but most of them arent savvy to what is called a millwall brick. This is something that is a specialty of soccer hooligans in England. Take the newspaper, open it to its center page, roll it tight than fold the roll. Now you have a club. If you feel a need to add extra weight to you arguments, put some pennies in the middle of the paper before you roll it. If you can tape it, even better.

In discussing matters of head protection with a great many people I have found that it is not so obvious to the majority. I often have difficulty getting it into their heads that a hard shell is a hard object that when struck will strike their head.

You're smart. Most people aren't.

Effectiveness will also be greatly reduced if it is not attached securely to the head and may well be a "one shot only" deal.

"Mini spikes on the outside part would hurt the first more than the blunt force would hurt you."

Your head hasn't met my nice piece of hickory, but yes, a few small spikes can add to effectiveness, sometimes just by making it slip resistant, even though you have greased the end to prevent grabbing. Pull the stick back through a grabber's bare hands and those short spikes with cause intense pain in his sensitive palms as they gouge through. And lots of bleeding.

"A couple of slash resistant t shirts or tops would be a good investment . . ."

Oh, yeah, I forgot about the shoes. You can buy safety-toe shoes with composite rather than steel caps. These are somewhat lighter and more comfortable. Also, they come in Oxford-style shoes that look well with business casual clothing, as opposed to steel-toe work boots that look like they belong on a construction site. There are even composite toe cap tennis shoes. I wouldn't want to feel a kick to the shins from any of these. Also, they provide protection from crushing injuries to the toes.

It is possible for you to outfit yourself in protective gear and have nobody notice.

The best you can do short of a dual foam motorsport helmet. They do not offer anywhere near the protection, but can withstand multiple blows (because they use foam rubber linings, not styrofoam. They are less effective because the foam rubber is a spring. It compresses, but then rebounds, directing force back again).

" . . .you can attach full-face shields to them."

And advantage to the motorsport helmet is the availability of tear off shields. The antifa target shields with blinding agents.

The alt-right is fighting to restore our place, be it on the street or in government. Whatever we decide to do must be done with these considerations:

1. there is likely infiltrators vying to draw us into a fight thus making both sides equally condemnable2. even if we win this one street fight, the bigger issues remain: how to cut off the head of the snake (there so many other groups waiting for us to tire - La Raze, globojihad, the Kangs etc)3 how to establish the basic ability to meet and share resources (it's coming but I think it will come at the point where we're not a threat)4 next generation will have their own plans and our appeal must be where we provide a secure place for them to flourish.

Believe me, the antifa have had it coming for a long time and I'm the first to advocate bringing it, but so many have tried and failed because it thinks the quick explosion will result in a lasting resolution.

In discussing matters of head protection with a great many people I have found that it is not so obvious to the majority. I often have difficulty getting it into their heads that a hard shell is a hard object that when struck will strike their head.

A hard shell is necessary to spread the point impact over a large enough surface area so that whatever impact absorbent material is used will be able to perform its function.

A single layer of relatively thin squishy material won't help much, though there are some amazing impact foams our there that naturally become "hard" when a sharp, fast, strike occurs. You must have something to spread the impulse over a large surface area to prevent a skull fracture or worse.

I am not skilled in violence but I have spent a lifetime working in some of the highest risk civilian environments. Here's what you'd wear to any crowded and potentially physically rough event. If you don't go this far you're not even meeting workplace safety, let alone preparing for violence.

Rollerblading or skating gloves include a semi rigid wrist brace that will protect you from a break. At a minimum, wear rigger's gloves. They massively increase the amount of heat, impact and abrasion your hands can take; situations that would leave your hands a shredded mess can be survived without any injury.

Steel caps can be heavy and uncomfortable, but carbon-fibre and similar hard-toed industrial boots are another absolute minimum. A high topped lace up boot will protect you from a lot of damage.

Wear heavy cotton shirt, ditto long pants, protection from minor cuts and in the event of chemical, solvent or heat won't fuse to your skin or burn fast. If you wear nylon to anything like this you're an idiot. Again, this is industrial safety, and well within my wheel-house.

A thick beanie is fairly thin protection, but I can tell you from making contact, hard, with steel (not in combat) that a couple of layers of heavy felt is the difference between dazed but ok, and torn up, bleeding like crazy, and badly hurt. Again, it won't protect you from an attack, but in the event of a glancing blow you'll be much better off. Sewing a layer of closed-cell foam inside would improve on that.

Now, a good motorcycle jacket and pants are pricey, but they include kevlar and plastic reinforcement. Again they aren't bullet proof, but they'll take the edge off; they can absorb a fair bit of kinetic energy, they're intended to keep your skin on at 100 mph and they do it pretty well.

All of these items are perfectly ordinary. They guys who put up the stage or whatever met or exceeded this, there is absolutely no way to claim these are weapons or indicate malice of forethought.

Try to picture your long struggle against these forces, your sacrifice made and your hopes lifted.

Then imagine, when the dust settles, and you are about to sit down at the table and develop an anti-marxist law, policy etc. But then you notice your allies aren't at that table and some shifty suits are taking control and you read a couple weeks later that the new agenda has shit like income distribution, outreach to immigrants etc.

THIS is a very real possibility. To put it another way, does the alt-right have the intellectual base to understand that one battle does not win the war and that even if every last antifa/Raza/BLM/jihad is crushed, the backdoor, if left open, will mean the end of us?

"A hard shell is necessary to spread the point impact over a large enough surface area . . ."

The idea is correct (most bicycle helmets are largely worthless, in part because they are so full of hole that they don't spread the load enough, in part because they lack physical integrity and fracture rather than compress).

But the chief function of the shell is to protect the liner. Shell free helmets have been tried, to save weight, and were a complete disaster do to lack of physical integrity of the liner material.

Antifa BLM ,etc are being run as an insurgency, to disrupt them you really have 5o organize and run a counter insurgency. The media aspect is one of the major components and the.alt-right seems to be making good inroads on that front

A good place to start:http://www.benning.army.mil/MSSP/Counterinsurgency/

German Antifa throws rocks, frozen water bottles (not as efficient as rocks due to low specific weight but still hard); the water bottles obviously to get through police controls; feces, and acid. (Sometimes sprayed. For instance during the ECB protests in Frankfurt a few years back, wounding 80 police.)They recently ambushed an AfD member, I think in Leipzig, at his home, punched him in the face and sprayed some concoction of bleach or some other cleaning chemical into his face.So maybe bring some buffer solution; much better than water to help against acid I guess.

In 2014 or 2015 they ambushed HoGeSa (Hooligans Against Salafism) protestors walking home after a rally in Hannover and stabbed two, one of them nearly to death. Some of them do use knifes. Naturally, some of them are radical Muslims hidden under the black gear; not your usual college Marxist. Source for the Hannover incident:http://www.haz.de/Hannover/Aus-der-Stadt/Uebersicht/Nach-Hooligan-Demo-in-Hannover-ermittelt-die-Polizei-wegen-versuchtem-TotschlagI never heard of any arrest. The German state is naturally very happy with political terror from the Left as it suppresses dissent against their mass immigration policies.We are very used to our leftists using potentially lethal means. Very old story, like steel bullet slingshots in the 1970ies against police.

For the ECB protest incident, for those who want to google it, that was a "movement" called "Blockupy". I don't know what "block" they wanted to occupy but that's what they called themselves.Ah, here's a source. Also from 2015.http://www.focus.de/finanzen/banken/ticker-zu-blockupy-protesten-randale-in-frankfurt-demonstranten-zuenden-autos-an-und-werfen-steine_id_4552319.html

@42 This is all excellent advice. Best of all this is all defensive equipment.

I'm not saying to you not to fight -- you are an adult and I'm not your dad. Just keep in mind that the authorities in charge of the local law enforcement are not going to have your back.

Individual policeman are K-selected and aren't in tune with the r-selected commissars or the Antifa -- this is why the stand down orders are necessary. The police aren't going to loose their jobs for you, but if they were on the scene they would bash some Antifa scum; thus, they are ordered off the scene or to stay in their prowlers, etc.

Anyway, if you come with offensive weapons, you run a risk of any charges against you being leveled-up because of "pre-medidation," never mind that the Antifa guys are not only pre-medidated, but sponsored.

To put it another way, does the alt-right have the intellectual base to understand that one battle does not win the war and that even if every last antifa/Raza/BLM/jihad is crushed, the backdoor, if left open, will mean the end of us?

Is it really possible to crush the antifa/Raza/BLM/jihad without dealing with the JQ?

Those Nike batting helmets are light, but they work! I took a rock to the top of my head yesterday that probably would have had me out.We also tested it before the saturday with a could of good smacks to the sides and back with both dowels and 1x3s. The impact jerked your head, but it protected against the pain and did a reasonable job of getting the blow to skate along the curves of the helmet.

One of the folks there next to me wasn't wearing a helmet, and took a nasty smack in the head with a thrown full mini-can of soda. He recovered OK, but there was a LOT of blood. They have video of him getting treated.

Wear a helmet...even if you are fit and young. I armored up because I am slow, but even those fit madmen dodging rocks on the front line could use it.

...and VD, They did a fantastic job of keeping the lines together yesterday. They had folks watching for flanking and the berserkers (that's what those based millennials were fighting like...absolutely breathtaking) at the front were keeping an ear out for the yell to pull back when they smashed into the front lines of the very skinny antifa janissaries. There were only a few incidents of folks pushing too far and getting enveloped.

Gloves are necessary as well. I started out with my motorcycle gloves, but lost them when I took them off to put some gauze on the fellow how to smack with the soda. Even though I didn't take a hit in the hands, I still learned why I needed them after the rally when I was heading back home. I didn't get pepper sprayed directly, but I did go through the clouds a couple of times and helped a few guys holding their head back when they were getting their eyes washed out. Pepper spray residue was all over my hands and when I took off my mask, helmet and goggles, I instinctively wiped my lips. Noob mistake that would have been mitigated if I was wearing gloves. I'm glad there were no cameras to capture my "it's too spicy" dance.

". . . until you punch something. Then they have a distressing tendency to break your fingers."

Which is why "brass knuckles" don't "date back to ancient times" the U.S. Army never issued two different kinds of knuckle knives, and they were never popular with soldiers during the Second World War.

Oh wait, they have been around for hundreds of years, the Army did issue the Model 1917 and Model 1918 Mark I trench knives, and they were popular with soldiers during WWII.

All these are okay, and medium term applications, but as shown by the cult level of just typical, non-AntiFa lefties, there are an endless supply of puppets, Political puppets, MSM puppets, academic puppets, or ground level puppets...everywhere.

Brass knuckles are specially shaped to transfer the force that would go into your fingers around them and into your palm instead, which is why they work. Carabiners are not, and there is a pretty big difference between the effective use of the two.

"Brass knuckles are specially shaped to transfer the force that would go into your fingers around them and into your palm instead, which is why they work. Carabiners are not, and there is a pretty big difference between the effective use of the two."

This is true, but most states prohibit the carrying of true brass knuckles. I was referring to improvised weapons here. Anyway, hitting a hard surface with your bare knuckles is likely to do damage to yourself, which is why I would favor the palm heel strike to the chin most martial artists are familiar with. At least with improvised 'knucks you can perform a "raking" move across the eyebrow line that will cause blood to flow into the target's eye.

Watching the video of the attack on Cernovich it is a good example of threat assessment. As soon as the guy shows up on camera my eye was trained on him. He stood out as a threat. Cernovich said he saw him coming which is how he dodged the blow and landed a counter.

The video is a good primer for anyone looking to improve their ability to recognize threats in a crowd.

tuberman wrote:there are an endless supply of puppets, Political puppets, MSM puppets, academic puppets, or ground level puppets...everywhere.You'll be amazed how quickly the supply of puppet volunteers dries up when the price for amplifying your virtue signal is a broken arm or a dozen stitches.

Be conscious of your local laws! Here in Virginia it's a felony to appear at these things in public wearing a mask. You can get up to five years. That law is selectively enforced, too. The odds are pretty good that SJW pols would love to apply it to us and not the antifa.

Is it really possible to crush the antifa/Raza/BLM/jihad without dealing with the JQ?

The reason Christianity has been relentlessly attacked is that it is the best example of an idealogy (call it what you will) that neutralizes entryism. Christians have that glean in their eye that means you have to be prepared to lay things out in the open when dealing with them.

Look, I am not proper alt-right, but I think that any question of demographics can only be answered AFTER the Left are beaten back. And as far as ethnicity goes, I tend to think any population that comes in under about 8% is potentially manageable. For most Western nations the National Socialist "JQ" is well down the list and, IMO, in practical terms, irrelevant.

The answer is "they are not a large enough demographic to swing general elections". If any extant ethnic group were a reliable electoral buffer, the SJWs would not be importing people like mad.

If, as some say, ethnostates are the only stable state, and something in the ball-park of 98% ethnic homogeneity is necessary, then there's a question. If "only" a strong monoculture and majority mono-ethnic bloc is needed, around 95%, say, then you're looking at a distraction.... and that latter is my opinion.

The "JQ" is hardly NatSoc in and of itself, otherwise you would have to argue that the other 108 nations which expelled them over the same question were also NatSoc... 100's of years before WW2. Indeed, if you have ever read NatSoc writings, you would notice that they themselves often remark on the historicity of the question, and often pondered exactly how far back it went.

It is also important to note that "beating back the left" means cutting off it's flow of material support, just like in any other war/conflict, which means targeting those who supply the left with money. Once you figure out who exactly that is, the relevance of the "JQ" in defeating the left becomes inescapably apparent.

75. Snidley, "You'll be amazed how quickly the supply of puppet volunteers dries up when the price for amplifying your virtue signal is a broken arm or a dozen stitches."

Not concerned about the endless supply at all, this is just a phase, with loads of unintended consequences for the Globalists. Most of the snow flakes will disappear or become more hard core, backed with more training and money. This is all just middle game.

It is likely a ways off, but the end game is Breiviking (in plural form), and lots of them.... maybe Europe first. The statues will happen.

Don't most actual generals spend most of their time in comfy armchairs? I think they last time someone of that rank in the Army led from the front was when it was still called "The Army of the Potomac".

What is obvious is the Globalist/Leftists cannot win in the long run. Giambattista Vico in his "New Science of History," published in 1725, knew that egalitarian ideas destroyed Rome, all the invasions were a consequence of "here comes everybody." SJWism is very, very old.

The divisions and splits are obvious to everyone not taken in be the silence of the MSM... the Leftist coalitions are, behind the scenes, knifing each other in the back. So why have they not analysed this? Stefan supplies the answer, as it is their addiction to short term power, and using their money to keep it going as long as possible. They are cheap power addicts.

After the Civil War, it was made policy that higher ranking officers should be discouraged from directly participating in combat, if possible. Several battles in the aforementioned war hinged on the untimely death of an important and capable officer. I will concede that it does still happen when said officers exercise their own discretion, but every solider I have ever talked to says it's frowned upon.

My ex-wife was probably at the Austin demonstration. She is a life-long radical leftist, a member of the SDS in college at Michigan State, and participated in some anti-war protests during the Vietnam era. In 2008, she was an Obama delegate at the Texas Democrat Convention. She changed the locks on the house the week before and I did not see her again until the final divorce hearing in June 2010.....so I do not know what happened since then.

Boy, you people are down on bicycle helmets. I was doing about 30 MPH (nice tailwind, very slight downhill grade) when a car pulled out from a stop sign RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. The bicycle stopped, I didn't. The helmet had some rather noticeable scratches on it from hitting the ground. My head was fine. Cycling gloves, aside from the gel cushioning protecting my hands from numbness from long rides, kept my palms from being torn up, since they were torn up on the palm. But from experience- bicycle helmets can protect you from concussion. Can't protect from things that are narrow enough to get in the cooling vents, but that's another matter.

@91 MathiasSnide remarks made against high-ranking American military do not endear you to anyone but other Leftists. Here is something from the Washington Post (no less) that seems to disprove your assertion.

Bicycle helmets are designed to protect from a single massive blow, and sacrifice themselves in the process, they are not designed to withstand a succession of blows and retain their shape. This makes them relatively unsuitable for combat purposes.

Batting cage helmets, on the other hand, are designed to protect you from being repeatedly concussed by a hard, heavy thrown object, which is much more relevant given the situation.

The answer is "they are not a large enough demographic to swing general elections"

How do you think the dead and millions of illegals end up voting if not for the JQ? Did anyone check to see if the coin tossed 6 times that all landed on Hillary had a second side? http://www.marketwatch.com/story/coin-toss-broke-6-clinton-sanders-deadlocks-in-iowa-and-hillary-won-each-time-2016-02-02

@101 As I said, the clothing recommendation made here are good. I wouldn't recommend a bicycle helmet for combat or fighting situations. But as I said, and you said in a different manner- they do protect against concussions. One time is enough, pays for the helmet, and then you buy a new one like I did.

@89 GraymanNice and inexpensive, more intimidating than discreet look - may be better for a street fight. The impact-hardening foams cost a lot, but really do work better than regular foam. The one I mentioned is relatively cheap, I saw a Klim motorcycle suit with the Dow Corning Deflexion brand structured silly putty foam that costs over $2700

Against? Liberal? Stating that the US Army has a highly sensible policy concerning the division of labor within it's ranks is hardly snide. There is no shame in a General not doing his own fighting, but it's not sensible from a policy perspective to instruct them to risk themselves unnecessarily for the sake of respectability when the same job can be done just as well by enlisted men. One of the most wretched consequences of the Civil War was the gutting of America's officer Schools, an experience that no one with an ounce of historical awareness wishes to repeat. No sensible person thinks that a man is a coward for being aware that he is responsible for the lives of others, and cannot fulfill those responsibilities if he becomes a casualty.

Also, your article states that 12 Generals died as a result of action in Vietnam, and "dozens" of "Generals and Admirals" in WW2. Now, the US Army had hundreds of Generals at either time (We are talking about anyone one star on up), so the ratio of Generals served to Generals killed seems to bear my assertion out. When less than 3.5% of your Generals are getting knocked out while per capita casualties of enlisted men are far higher, it stands to reason that your Generals overall are steering clear of direct action. Check out the percentage of high officers lost in the civil war, it's up in the double-digits.

American bicycle helmets aren't even designed to protect you from simple concussion. They are designed to make you a vegetable, rather than a corpse.

The liner to protect from fatal brain trauma has to be so dense that at less energetic impacts it is a effectively a hard surface.

The liner to protect from simple concussion would have to be less dense, but then it wouldn't protect you from fatal brain trauma.

A helmet can be made with two liners of different densities, but that markedly increases the diameter of the helmet. Helmet diameter is itself a risk, as it converts near misses into hits.

Looking at the scrapes on the outside of the helmet is looking in the entirely wrong place. Look inside. If the liner is not noticeably compressed, it did not save you from concussion. Your head hit it with the same force it would have hit anything else.

You were possibly saved from some abrasions. Bicycle helmets do make the ears considerably less vulnerable, but not your face.

I'm going to have to check into one of the batting helmets. The only helmet i've worn that saved my hide a few times was a motorcycle helmet. But who wants to run around wearing one of those things when you're not riding? Too hot.

I've got some bag gloves with pretty good padding on them. But for serious thing like this, I got these lacrosse gloves. You don't completely lose flexibility (like a hockey glove) but you do lose some. It's a worth trade off in a stick fight.

"But who wants to run around wearing one of those things when you're not riding? Too hot."

Protecting the head is extremely difficult. So difficult, in fact, that it's impossible.

The head is vulnerable to make it useful. It has a multiplicity of functions. You hear with it, see with, breath with it, think with it, run autonomic functions with it and , yes, cool with it.

The more you protect it, the more you degrade its vital functions. The best you can do is give it some extra, provisional protection of a limited range, given a specific risk environment.

A risk environment that is likely to change several times while employing your protective device, so when you are actually impacted your device may be the wrong thing at the wrong time for the wrong impact.

Protect it too much in any case and you simply increase the risk to your neck.

The bare head is actually quite well optimized for carrying out its various functions, including protecting the brain, tested over many generations against life and death.

Were-Puppy wrote:I'm going to have to check into one of the batting helmets. The only helmet i've worn that saved my hide a few times was a motorcycle helmet. But who wants to run around wearing one of those things when you're not riding? Too hot.

I've got some bag gloves with pretty good padding on them. But for serious thing like this, I got these lacrosse gloves. You don't completely lose flexibility (like a hockey glove) but you do lose some. It's a worth trade off in a stick fight.

Good advice thanks.

Lacrosse gloves are a fine choice in a serious stick fight and were used extensively in the SCA and HEMA prior to the introduction of purpose made gauntlets

Speaking of HEMA and SCA , it wouldn't hurt to pick up a few tips from practitioners that might be on our side. The skills and to a degree mindset can be useful

Lastly, this is right now mostly ritual combat and no one is meant to die or really be that seriously injured . Think Maoris of African posturing or a tuned down Phalanx Press. This plays well to the audience and is fairly low risk

This could change if the AntiFa decide to get desperate or violent. I suspect they won't for the time being but caution is advised.

"Speaking of HEMA and SCA , it wouldn't hurt to pick up a few tips from practitioners that might be on our side."

Rattan is light, thus fast. Because it is light and somewhat flexible, it doesn't cause much real damage with a slashing blow, but hurts like a bastard. If you do wish to do real damage though, thrust, it's solid in compression. Because it's a cane it's composed of long fibers in line, it won't break like Based Stickman's hardware store dowel.

You cat get traditional crooked walking/invalid canes in various species of "rattan." They are non weapons until actually used as such, and might even come in handy for letting someone walk away from a riot. They can be used for slashing, thrusting and taking people down by hooking. Cane work was actually a popular martial art in the Victorian Era.

BBGKB wrote:How do you think the dead and millions of illegals end up voting if not for the JQ?John Daley was not Jewish. Outright voter fraud was originally an Irish thing, though the Blacks have been working it pretty hard since the '60s.

The guy in the greek armor hat had the best idea. Developed over time in real combat. Any hat with a brim gets easily knocked off. Probably spread oil all over his face before the skirmish to protect from pepper spray.

At some point some hardcore guy is going to show up for one side or the other, make these protests real very fast --- there are hundreds of Dylann Roofs out there for both sides just waiting to be wound up and set of to kill. Before you keep pushing this VD.. make sure this is something you really want to happen and you can live with when it does ?

You wouldn't catch me at one of these protests --- its a powder keg just waiting to blow..

What we can expect is the "weapons" will escalate faster than the "protective armor". Hand "weapons" will give way to devices that can engage the opponent at a distance. Some elements will operate separately and attack from several directions, even targeting the assembly or staging areas....where private vehicles or chartered buses are parked.People who have had their own peaceful assembly disturbed by violent rivals will soon be motivated to visit their opponents at inconvenient times.Excesses always lead to excesses. Revenge begats revenge. This is not going to die down.

@118 praetorianSince the police do not seem to respond to pyrotechnic devices, we should see quite a few more in the future. Perhaps cherrybombs and M80s dipped in glue and rolled in small shot, like BBs. Tossing them is much too limiting. Anyone can get a surgical tube slingshot at Wal-Mart for six bucks, called a WristRocket. Cheap, quiet, disposable, and effective. Can always shoot rocks or pebbles when they run out of pyrotechnics. A dozen or so with slingshots can drive back many times their number on the street.

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