Tuesday, August 18, 2015

I'm working on a list for the book. Wikipedia is at the top of my list, for various reasons, but I'm interested in hearing more ideas for SJW-infested institutions that can be most easily replaced with alternatives.

For example, WPP, the advertising giant, would be hugely significant, but it would be very, very difficult to effectively provide an alternative to it. And I don't even know that it is the advertising agency most responsible for pushing various SJW memes via advertising anyhow.

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is probably the most important SJW institution at the moment due to the $3.3 trillion it is giving away on an annual basis, but obviously, it's not going to be easy to produce an alternative to that either.

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eBay should be easy to replace. An auction house that allows you to sell anything as long as it complies with the law has virtue over a service that can suspend your sales based on the outrage of the day.

The Mozilla Foundation, because their products (Firefox and Thunderbird) are utter crocks, Google Chrome needs some competition, and I do think a decent browser wouldn't be too hard to write and maintain if it's designed by smart people who won't tolerate incompetents.

May building a replacement for GoFundMe? IIRC, they were the outfit that got embarrassed when $800+K was raised for Memories Pizza, so when someone tried to raise funds to help out the couple in Oregon who was being attacked by the Gaystapo, GFM shut it down, citing something about not allowing their service to be used to "fund hate" or whatever.

Sounds like a fairly easy one - set up a website, build a similar functionality into it, and spread word of it on the blogs, etc.

NPR/Liberal Radio: Distributed pirate radio running on the same frequency, all being fed from an internet stream could be a literal replacement. Given how little the radio is used these days, I'd imagine acquiring broadcasting equipment and the appropriate licenses wouldn't be too cost prohibitive if a movement has a little backing.

TV "News": livestream/youtube live would enable you to reach the majority of the population. Couple it with an audio only stream on an internet radio station and you're set for next to nothing.

Billboards, bus stop ads, other roadside space: Your money vs their money. Unless you buy out the infrastructure and can no-platform them. In the big metro areas here in the states I've noticed the SJW messages far outweigh any traditionalist ones. Good way of passively reaching the everyday folks.

Higher Learning: They're all moving towards MOOC, as its easier to scale and will get you much higher profits if handled even remotely competently. This would merely be a matter of putting coursework available and serving it online somewhere. A web app to handle grades and professor-student interactions would be a breeze to put together. I'd say this one has the best chances of being both profitable monetarily and to reverse skewing fresh minds towards SJW policy. Hell, it would be easy to expand this to all levels of learning. They're pushing this stuff in grade school as well.

Greenpeace. That's a hotbed of SJW's, and even environmentalists don't really like it. It's common knowledge that the founder of Greenpeace is against the current group, there's already a few minor groups that are actually pro-environmental (that is; against real, actual pollution - not what we exhale).

Mothers Against Drunk Driving. Another infested organization that lost it's way somewhere. Maybe start a group that focusses on the actual problem of teens getting killed while driving? Focus more on carpooling, responsible parties, educating parents, RAISING the driving limits, etc rather than on banning the demon rum!

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals and their shock troops; Earth First.There are LOTS and LOTS of small, local animal shelters that strictly focus on getting strays off the streets, as well as municipal facilities, and just dozens of other unaffiliated groups doing the same thing (how many "ferret rescues" are there?). If these had a larger network to plug into, THAT FILTERED THE CAT LADIES, and that just kept beating the drum about what PETA really does, I think PETA could face some serious competition.

I would suggest something more easy like local government, school boards, city councils etc... Those are the smaller positions of power most people don't want to be bothered with so SJW's moved right in pushing their agenda's and building networks in their own favor.

Can we put Islam on the list? Maybe if there was a competing world-view structure, based on... well... I'm reaching here, something like sacrificial love and grace instead of power and domination? Could we put together something like that? Probably outside your scope.

No. Islam is not SJW at all. It existed hundreds of years before the concept of social justice, it is opposed to all the tenets of social justice, and you're not going to create an alternative to a religion of one billion people.

The UN of course. pushes all manner of loony left policies. The best part is, it is a totally redundant organization and need not be replaced at all.Getting rid of it however, would cure a lot of ills.

Now, I know that I'm stating the obvious here, and that this is the entire freaking point of the book, but we all know that it's not just organizations. It's people. We need to get venues and spotlights for Vox, Milo, Wright, et al. No-Platforming has been the other sides modus operandi for so long that we're way behind the curve. How do we grow more talent? Andrew Klavan, Bill Whittle, and all those guys are real allies in this. Even those guys making Fireproof (barf) are onto something. And God Is Not Dead wasn't bad as a youth group thing, and Expelled was excellent. But movies like Knocked Up and This is The End are what we really need to be doing. Movie Stars have platforms just going out for coffee, why does Sean Penn testify to congress? We need to upgrade our celebrity culture with better celebrities.

payment providernumerous cases where sites and persons have been refused service for not being political correct.gratipay, patreon, paypal... all pull if the site is legal, but controversial.And bitcoin isn't there yet in general acceptance so content providers get enough money to sustain.

the BBC - a more draconian institution funded under the threat of imprisonment by a tax of 145 pounds a year per household if they watch any TV (not the bbc channels) at all. They have a army of snoopers who act like the police and enter your homes to check if you are complying with the licence fee agreement. 10% of all criminal cases in british courts are about people not paying the licence fee.

a model based on brainwashing the public from cradle to grave that constantly has to tell you how great they are and how essential they are, while employing lefty journalists, comedians, activists on huge wages. fully bought into the global warming, racism, feminism cartel. but there are signs now that their days . more and more people no longer watch live TV on a television set and are not paying the TV tax. Their suggestion is to enforce a compulsory internet/broadband tax, which is not going to happen.

Reverend Ferdinand M. Sprague, of Chicago (who may be taken as a common specimen of the priest-politician), in a little pamphlet lately published, entitled ‘The Laws of Social Evolution,’ writes thus: — “The sheet anchor of Socialism according to its ablest exponents, is the Holy Christian religion. Its motto founded on the precept ‘love thy neighbor as thyself’ is — ‘each for all, and all for each.’ Its working principle for the present is altruism.”

‘The ethics of Socialism are identical with the teachings of Christianity.’ Encyclopedia Brittanica.

Is GPal (the PayPal clone created to be gun-friendly) still around? If so, it would be better to promote them to merchants.

@7: GoFundMe

There's already at least one Christian or otherwise non-SJW implementation of that concept.

@16: Seconding Firefox / the Mozilla Foundation. Though they're kind of circling the drain already as it is.

That's part of what makes them low-hanging fruit for replacement.

In the same vein as “It helps if you're fighting Arabs.”, it helps greatly that we're fighting people who not only are incompetent, but have as a core tenet of their faith that everyone is equally competent, i.e. there is no such thing as competence. Any organization they control which has to produce a useful product will self-destruct without our help; we just have to provide an alternative.

A bank in general. That you know, actually does what banks are supposed to do. Namely, specialize in taking deposits and making loans to small businesses and people looking to purchase a home or automobile. There is so much red tape in so many countries that I am not sure if it is possible. It would be nice to see an honest financial institution that didn't discriminate against non-politically correct industries like gun manufacturing.

United Way has its hooks deep into corporate America and funnels a ton of money to SJW organizations (such as planned parenthood). Corporate managers are badgered into supporting UW, and while you can attempt to specifically divert money towards useful charities, UW still takes a cut and still provides support to anti-civilization orgs.

United Way exists under a shield of plausible deniability, so it isn't the softest target. However, if you can penetrate the defenses it would be a major blow to SJW funding, probably the biggest one you can make.

AAP - American Academy of PediatricsSupports1. gun control (pediatricians are trained to ask about guns in the home)2. forced vaccines3. LGBT life choices for children!4. Abortion (choice for emancipated adolescents)5. all proper SJW positions on race, poverty, diversity, single parent families, etc...

This may not be in the spirit of the thing, because Vox intends to replace institutions. Replace local elected officials at the district level.

Most Amercans are ruled by a dozen or so districts: transportation districts, flood districts, school districts, etc. Each district has a board with the power to regulate and tax.

No one ever shows up to their meetings, so they operate in virtual secrecy. For example, I live in Dallas. My transportation district board meets at Denny's! Why? Because for years only the board showed up.

Voter turnout for district board elections is very, very low. A mere 200 votes is all that is required to replace an entire board slated not Dallas - completely altering the regulatory environment of huge land areas with large populations.

This could be easily accomplished with a #GamerGate style of organization.

This must be the most quixotic venture I've witnessed since the 1962 Mets: Try to create an environment in which racism will flourish by convincing white people to discriminate against and segregate non-whites.

In a sense, they can exist in the US, just as a bank due to all of the rules and compliances which they have to follow. There's *so* much red tape that there's no room for innovation, only rulebreaking - especially when the financial institution grows larger.

Not really replacing anything, but simply asking people to do what they should have done all along anywise:

Encourage genuine Christians in denominational churches that are going or are already SJW to leave them, and find solid local churches that are preaching the Bible instead. I know this already happens, but I mean specifically targeting and encouraging them to systematically leave, and take their support with them. Has the double advantage of being biblical since denominations and the universal church concept aren't biblical anywise.

Mozilla/Firefox are already in the process of replacing themselves, and we can link this to the purge of Mozilla co-founder Brendan Eich, who also created Javascript. Contra @5 it's not easy to to make or maintain a "decent" browser, their management, including technical, has been getting worse and worse, and we can assume having better people at the helm would have resulted in a better outcome.

GitHub is my major example of a replaceable SJW institution. It's a place to store the source code of computer programs you're working on, and the "git" program used (created by the not very PC Linus Torvalds, creator of the Linux kernel (operating system)) inherently maintains multiple copies of your source code on your own machines and wherever you push copies, like central repositories such as GitHub.

So while GitHub is currently enjoying major network effects because so many people and projects use it, it's even an essential part of many programmer's resumes, and things like their own issue (bug) tracker and wiki make them more sticky for projects, the current example of predecessor SourceForge shows they can suffer a decline and fall, and they have many competitors. A very wide swatch of us programmers are highly motivated now that they've literally gone full retard.

Their blatant, "'reverse racism' can't exist" SJWs have made it a dangerous place to put your code, and us "show us your code" types just don't want to have to waste time and energy on their ongoing drama.

NYTimes. Everyone thinks of print media being out of date, and irrelevant, and all that. But, the NYTimes still has massive out-sized influence.

They have definitely lost some prestige, but it's not catastrophic, and they have a very powerful way of setting and holding the national agenda when they put the time and resources into it. Yesterday's Amazon.com story is a good example - coordinated print, TV, radio, and internet release, reporters available to other media outlets, and they forced a response from the 5th most wealthy person in the world and may have done some damage.

There are a few operations out there that can bring the same type of institutional gravitas to a story, but none that are strictly anti-SJW.

Replacing the NYT on this front is not that huge of a challenge. There have been good efforts at it in the past, but it's critically important. The people who steer the media and cultural coverage of the country get the NYTimes, dead tree, on their door step, everyday. They read it. It's their.. Drudgereport.

Army ranger school, graduating two women, is a product of SJW infestation of policy. That school can neither be eliminated (it's necessary) nor replaced, as any replacement would again be subject to current policy.

The Mozilla Foundation, because their products (Firefox and Thunderbird) are utter crocks, Google Chrome needs some competition, and I do think a decent browser wouldn't be too hard to write and maintain if it's designed by smart people who won't tolerate incompetents.

WTF? Google is 1000% more SJW than Google.

Why would you want to remove the last stumbling block that prevents the most toxic and SJW-friendly corporation in the world from exercising monopoly control of the Internet?

Do you not realize that once Firefox is gone, it's game over for free speech on the Internet?

Kull: good catch. Professional and academic organizations in general are a problem, but that is because the people who make them up are generally SJWs or sympathetic to the cause.

Fr. Thyme: No, not Christianity as a whole; Vox's comments re Islam apply equally. But there are several neo-Christian organizations that are hotbeds of SJWs. The Unitarians, Episcopals (Wm.S. Lind had it right; burn a bishopess), UCC. The U-Us provide 2 services: rent-a-wedding-chapel (could be replaced by a strengthened Universal Life Church) and a roof over Wiccans (let them pay for their own roof, but they'd have to get jobs first). ECUSA provides halfway decent music (endow your local Latin Mass musicians) and a venue for "ordaining" Catholike womynpriests (see Lind comment above). UCC replaces gay peoples' sense of sin; no replacement. I don't know how you get rid of a religious institution; ECUSA seems to be doing a fine if slow job on their own.

I'd like to see a national chain of quality coffee shops without SJWs.

There are plenty. Snopes, Politifact, SFWA, The Hugos, Awards in general, Greenpeace, and so on. The real question: Why do they have to be replaced? If a Soros, Steyer, or Gates was suddenly unable to dole out "charity" the world would keep on turning.

Seems like a lot of people are missing the point: you're listing the big power centers which are well-entrenched, or the most fanatical SJW outfits which exist only to serve their agenda. There's no way to replace Greenpeace, for example, with a conservative alternative -- the conservative alternative to Greenpeace is "No Greenpeace."

My suggestions:

Start local. An advertiser-supported "free weekly" paper in a big market like L.A. or NYC. Not a single conservative editorial, no crowing about any "conservative voice," nothing to interfere with the camouflage. Do event listings and music reviews, which are the bread-and-butter of publications like that. Oh, and do actual news reporting (rather than retyping DNC press releases). Every big Democrat-dominated city has an infinite supply of corruption to expose. Driving a wedge between the SJWs and the party hacks would be a huge strike right there.

Well, most of these organizations started with Good Intentions, and then were corrupted, or completed their original mission and just kept looking for another cause, which the SJW's have an endless supply of.

How do we prevent this from continuing? Once you have an advocacy group, the SJW's just line up.

I would suggest a media platform alternative, first. Fox has been the only news network not completely bent to the will of SJWs, but it has failed to fight back effectively and is now, in any event, the servant of Cuckservatives.

Some kind of site that the real Right could use as a central place to branch out into all forms of media. Something that would link to Return of Kings, Castalia House, Roosh, Vox, Sailer, etc... in equal measure.

Right now, the Right is divided into little islands that have yet to come together. You'd be surprised how long it took me to discover you and your work, Vox, despite having a similar mindset for many years.

That would at least galvanize the Right and introduce them to other minds they have not yet considered.

Reverend Ferdinand M. Sprague, of Chicago (who may be taken as a common specimen of the priest-politician), in a little pamphlet lately published, entitled ‘The Laws of Social Evolution,’ writes thus: — “The sheet anchor of Socialism according to its ablest exponents, is the Holy Christian religion. Its motto founded on the precept ‘love thy neighbor as thyself’ is — ‘each for all, and all for each.’ Its working principle for the present is altruism.”

‘The ethics of Socialism are identical with the teachings of Christianity.’ Encyclopedia Brittanica.

Unfortunately, GitLab.com does have a Code of Conduct, and there's some indication that their CEO is susceptible to SJW entryism. So it wouldn't be terribly surprising to see it follow in GitHub's 'tarded footsteps. The good news is that the software is free and open source, so non-SJWs can set up their own servers and not depend on GitLab.com as a centralized community the way we (rather foolishly) did with GitHub.

I stand behind no man in loathing for the UN. It does, however, have one use. This is to provide a meeting place for the P5, the five permanent members of the security council, which is to say for people who can make war on the global scale against each other as peers or near pears, to exercise a veto. That veto amounts to "we feel strongly enough about this to go to war over it, so think carefully before you continue as you are (or try to stop us from continuing as we are)."

Unfortunately, the premises for that, the peers and near peers, has become obsolete. The UK doesn't have an empire anymore and the USSR has become a mere rump. France has kept its empire, under a different name, but that appears to be falling apart now, too. The only peers and near peers are us, China, maybe Japan, and the EU, at least in potential. The EU needs to be buried with a stake through its heart but that still wouldn't leave enough peers and near peers for a stable system. Not enough? No, stability requires five, not four, not six, not any number but five. And they just don't exist.

So, how could you replace some of these organizations? Wikipedia, for instance, is easy, with the proliferation of alt-wikis and fan-wikis for entertainment. These wikis treat their subject matter more in depth than is allowed on Wikipedia. Start moving historical and scientific topics to specialized wikis and not only can you rob Wikipedia of its traffic, you hit Wikipedia at it's last bastion of objectivity.

Pro tip: Windmills are hard to hit. If you strike at the base its hard to miss, take out the base and it falls.

May building a replacement for GoFundMe?

They have also taken down pages for self defense funds of cops. Officer Wilsons page was taken down but the ones for the liquor store robber he shot wasn't. You could start a page for a cop killer but not for a cop doing his job.

Pam Geller tried that, the queens in San Fran reacted worse to her billboards about moslem crimes against gays, than it did when the San Fran Gate told them it was blacks that did the most bashing. She has been banned from running ads in multiple cities.

EEOC You just want to fire a n!gger for downloading a porn virus that took out almost all of the computers in a hospital for a week or that has 2 women ER patients claim he sexually assaulted them with him replying they are hookers he picked up trying to shake him down for more cash.

Twitter...And Godrey Elfwick has apparently gone offline So has BGS

United Way I have not given to UW since the CEO that was fired for embezzling was given a multimillion dollar settlement to keep from dragging the name down with discrimination claims, as if a white man would have been allowed to keep embezzling. I have taken some flak for it over the years.

How do we prevent this from continuing? Once you have an advocacy group, the SJW's just line up.

I watch almost no television unless I find myself in a waiting room or visiting someone else at their home so the changes I see in regards to programming (not the shows, the viewers) is astonishing when I do watch. During a single commercial break on a channel called TLC I saw three mixed race couples in a row and one gay couple over the course of four commercials. IRL I rarely see these couplings, granted I live in a White state, but still- 100% of the commercials featured zero straight white couples. This cannot possibly be catering to the audience, but rather a deliberate push from advertisers to viewers. I did make a mental note not to do business with these companies, but at this stage such actions are clearly futile.

@83 Cail Corishev: GitLab does have its own problems, but I'm hard pressed to think of any current Bay Area star that's as SJW as GitHub, not even Mozilla or Twitter (I see Google as much more leftist than SJW).

I'm doubt as things stand GitHub will lose its place quickly, but the bleeding has commenced, as of a week or two ago GitLab was experiencing a doubling over a month of demand for their services which coincides with the latest batch of atrocities, but GitHub is still #1 by far and benefiting from network effects. A concerted, focused push just might topple them sooner rather than later, and it would be delicious to make them spend much of their recent $250 million investment on survival instead of growth.

@Student in Blue"Link aggregates like this exist. They're just not on TV because TV is a dying breed trying to stay relevant."

Nothing at the same level. I mean you have Drudge, but that's kind of Cuckservative as well. You don't see Drudge linking here, for instance.

Yes, TV is dying. This is why it's a great opportunity for the Right to build something new to replace Fox. It doesn't need to be TV. It doesn't need to be nearly as centralized as Fox News. #GamerGate proves that decentralization is an effective defense against SJW infiltration.

But there still ought to be something to link the disparate elements of the Alt Right together.

I have no idea how it would be possible, but to me one of the biggest things promoting SJW conformity are HR departments in most companies. And then these companies will promote gay pride or diversity initiatives. And attempt to get all the employees behind those initiatives.

Of course it's not on the same level, because we've been kept at the fringes this entire time.

That said, creating what you're thinking of poses its fair share of problems, like that the "Alt Right" almost only shares a name and nothing else. Also, is it a link aggregate (which in no way replaces Fox) or an actual news outlet? Completely different scale of operations between the two.

This is what first gave me an inkling about all this SJW crap over the last few years. How many TV shows began promoting only black guy/ white girl romance, or lesbian romance? At least now in shows like Sleepy Hollow there are white guy / black girl romances, which are breaking the mold XD

It's in commercials, TV shows, comics, everywhere.

You would also notice the replacement of white characters with black characters, especially in comics related entertainment.

They even go so far as to make a female Thor and a muslim Green Lantern.

And I only half pay attention to this stuff. It's probably worse than I realize.

Scholastic Books. They're the ones who hold the Book Fairs at all the elementary schools. All their stuff is left leaning, social justice, global warming, save the whales. They are little more than a propaganda mill.

Mothers Against Drunk Driving. Another infested organization that lost it's way somewhere. Maybe start a group that [focuses] on the actual problem of teens getting killed while driving? Focus more on carpooling, responsible parties, educating parents, RAISING the driving limits, etc rather than on banning the demon rum!

Focus on lawfare.MADD "lost its way" ab initio. It is a purpose-built scam and its alleged founder embezzled the funds. I did deep research on this ten years ago, some parts of that are available at USURP THIS. MADD was modeled after the Prohibitionists, a group of cat-loving busy bodies, which can always be whistled up for any cause no matter how insane. The purpose was not to punish DUI "drivers", it was to smuggle subversive "laws" into the alleged judicial system. Most of "traffic" (a synonym for "commerce") court is for that purpose.

A couple of the numerous highlights-"(1) A person is guilty of driving while under the influence of intoxicating liquor or any drug if..." is the opening line of the DUI statute. This is both overly broad and void for vagueness, therefore everything- the entire statute- predicated upon it is illegal under US law.

RCW 46.61.517Refusal of test -- Admissibility as evidence.The refusal of a person to submit to a test of the alcohol or drug concentration in the person's blood or breath under RCW 46.20.308 is admissible into evidence at a subsequent criminal trial. is a perfect example of Kafaktrapping.

Norm Maleng dropped dead of a heart attack at Husky Stadium a few months after this case. Unfortunately, I cannot prove the case had anything to do with that. I was possibly on the verge of destroying the entire DUI racket in Washington State but broke off the chase. Four years later, the rumors of WA State Patrol falsification of lab results proved to be true. All DUIs in WA are void ab initio.

Disclaimer for retards: the above is no way intended to encourage traveling in a motorized conveyance on a public highway while drunk.

Yes, GitHub has a lot of inertia, so it won't die soon. When I want to look at a piece of software now, odds are it's on github. The big change is that its ease-of-use has made it the primary way much OS software is delivered. A couple years ago it was, "You can download binaries here, and source zips/tarballs here....or if you're really determined to get the latest broken stuff, here's a git/svn/cvs link." Now for many things it's just, "If you want it and your OS doesn't provide a package, here's the github page."

But that'll change. The ideal would probably be to go back to decentralized communities and distribution, rather than replace SJW-Infected Institution with Not-Yet-Infected Institution (in most of the cases mentioned here, not just this one), but it seems to be human nature to centralize things.

@86: So, pick one institution, do oppo research on the individuals there, then attack them.

That's why I said “Google Chrome needs some competition”. I want to make sure there *is* a replacement for Firefox before Mozilla finishes offing itself.

@50: Contra @5 it's not easy to to make or maintain a "decent" browser, their management, including technical, has been getting worse and worse, and we can assume having better people at the helm would have resulted in a better outcome.

It's not a single-person job, but it's tractable if one keeps the saboteurs out.

And ‘better people’ aren't enough; they also have to have the spine to remove incompetents.

GitHub is my major example of a replaceable SJW institution. … they've literally gone full retard.

Huh. I thought GH ToS G.11 (“You must not transmit any worms or viruses or any code of a destructive nature.”) was enough — that isn't limited to transmitting those through their service (and other terms explicitly are), so it forbids all GitHub users from downloading OS install discs using BitTorrent (thus redistributing them too) which provide an option to erase all existing partitions. And it forbids them from distributing copies of ‘rm’, or any security software which implements forward secrecy (by deleting secret keys after use).

Look this isn't a wish list of organizations you wish would go away while you do nothing. It is institutions that attract some normal use for regular people WHILE also advancing needless SJW crap. The NAACP does provide non-SJW service to regular colored people WHILE advancing unrelated goodthink.

Think of ISIS gaining popularity theough hospitals and apartments and wives. Now imagine a competing org that doesn't have murder as its end game.

You can't wish these institutions away like a cuckservative baby boomer while letting them thrive. You need to meet the need they satisfy and replace their lying spines with honest ones.

I'm interested in what will happen when Sesame Street moves to HBO. It might even improve. But a replacement for a daily kid's educational TV show would be great, and profitable if done correctly. Sesame Street would probably rank pretty high on an SJW-o-meter, but the content is largely innocuous. Numbers, letters, words, reading and counting mostly.

A kid's attention span isn't long, so bits are under 2-3 minutes, which lends itself to crowd-sourced production. A Roku box is a great medium for distribution, too.

@56 Replacing the NYT on this front is not that huge of a challenge. There have been good efforts at it in the past, but it's critically important. The people who steer the media and cultural coverage of the country get the NYTimes, dead tree, on their door step, everyday. They read it. It's their.. Drudgereport.

Dead tree distribution is out unless you can front several billion for an established distribution system like the NYT or WSJ has (or used to have).

Also, hard news is, well, hard. If you don't have an established brand like the NYT to get you through the door, you have to expend a lot of shoe leather to get meaningful access. It does lend itself to crowd-sourcing, but it would need strong editorial control. Otherwise you'll just end up with a collection of opinion-based bloggers, whose content is much easier to produce.

Churches seem to be being replaced by online/TV. In particular churches where the emphasis in not on liturgy and fellowship, but doctrine and preaching. These tend to be non SJW churches. So this is a reverse trend.

Sierra Club. Some years back a takeover attempt was made to get them to sanity on the immigration issue. An organized entryist assault could subvert them back into a sane environmental group and would give cover for 'Nice White Ladies' to vote their son's interests on the immigration issue.

I would second and third the idea of getting a real, honest investigative news organization. Practically everyone in their personal life has heard a story about corruption at some level of government screwing over a co-worker or friend or neighbor. These stories are never reported on even at a high level. If someone took the time to expose just the big examples of corruption in government it would go a long way to turning society around.

There's no way to replace Greenpeace, for example, with a conservative alternative -- the conservative alternative to Greenpeace is "No Greenpeace."

I think that is a mistake. There is nothing inherently leftist about respecting the environment, that's just another lie we've been told as part of the narrative. The worst ecological disasters in the world have been hatched by communist governments. Even on a local scale, if you pay attention, you'll see that the control-freaks masquarading as "evironmentalists" have implemented rules that screw up the environment about as often as they help it.

Whether or not they'd qualify as "easy" to replace, I'm not sure. Certainly not as easy to replace as wikipedia, but a lot easier to replace than Harvard University. Greenpeace and the Sierra Club have become bloated fund-raising organizations that do stunts for PR, so they are vulnerable to people with a real mission of stewardship. If nothing else, a competitng organization that hasn't been captured by interest groups could help expose the fraudulent credentialed "experts."

But this raises an important point. We can't replace any of these groups without passion for the mission. Not the mission of "replacing SJW group X" but passion for the mission of solving whatever problem group X obstensibly exists to solve. You can't replace Wikipedia without a passion for collecting and distributing knowledge. You can't replace Greenpeace without a passion for nature. You can replace CBS News without a passion for reporting, and you can't replace any specific sort of journalism (e.g. game journalism) without passion for covering the topic

One "problem" with SJW organizations is that they never die. They come institutions that live forever. Greenpeace is largely that organization. Right-wing people are more interested in achieving a goal, and I've seen those groups come and go. With a leftist organization, they always morph once the initial goal has been achieved. Because it's always about the next one, the next one, the next one.

@120 Grime Knight: GitGud is a copy of the GitLab Community Edition code, which is pretty much the same thing GitLab runs on their public facing system, that's running on modest hardware after pretty much every site including GitLab purged them due to accusations the GamerGate repository was being used to organize "harassment".

It shows that for a modest investment of time and money you can, in this case with GitLab's tacit blessing, create your own small scale site like GitHub, but it would costs serious money to scale it to something big. As others have suggested, maybe the best solution is a bunch of different sites like it all doing roughly this. But at least for now GitHub has an huge community and stature that makes it an attractive target to outright replace, at least until people wise up to the dangers of one big site like it or SourceForge, or we make the world safe for a while from SJWs who subvert such institutions.

Game Dev meetups and mailing lists. It sounds stupid, but this is how game devs in an area get to know each other, and the people who facilitate these them become de facto gatekeepers. This is a huge reason why so many GG devs aren't coming out of the closet.

And yet its so god damned easy to start a meetup in your area.

Also, by the way, isn't anyone else sick of "teh market will fix it naturally" types who say that as an excuse for utter passivity.

As the name suggests, Greenpeace was always a Leftist outfit. Come for the environmental protection, stay for the nuclear disarmament. A genuine conservation organization might be useful, especially if it paid attention to the environmental damage caused by crony capitalism and government boondoggles. But Greenpeace, as such, exists only to cripple the West's economy and military and always has.

Perhaps this is OT, perhaps not. I've been a regular reader here, at John C Wright's blog, and at a lot of other news/opinion sites and forums that reflect a similar worldview. I have no TV, no newspapers; I get my information on line. I also have a very wide circle of friends and acquaintances- people from all sorts of different backgrounds. In conversation I have occasionally made references to Gamergate, Puppies (both sad and rabid), used the terms SJW, Social Justice Warrior, neo-reaction, dark enlightenment. In every case I've been met with blank stares, or responses of,"Huh? never heard of it." On further inquiry I find that none of these folks turn on the internet for anything other than social media, and all of it on smartphone. It seems that even the blogosphere is becoming a dinosaur, a geeks only club that most folks just don't have time for.

On the notion of Greenpeace... there is a small local organization I am a member of, and participate in regularly, which cleans up the beaches, waters (through diving to collect garbage) and boardwalks/piers around my city. It is mostly Right-wing, as Leftists don't like wading in shitty water to retrieve garbage.

There is no money in it. We do not receive funding or media attention, but share in a desire to keep our beaches and waters clean out of self-interest (we use these beaches, after all). I suspect a lot of Right-wing organizations are like this, small local affairs with clear goals, maintained with hard work more than money.

As Donovan Sharpe pointed out on RoK, ESPN now belongs on this list. Replace with: guys who give a damn about sports.

Also, as an Eagle Scout, I agree that the modern BSA needs replacing. Perhaps with an organization like the original BSA, which was essentially covert ops training. WAY more boys would be interested in that than the modern group.

...SJW-infested institutions that can be most easily replaced with alternatives.

Clearly that doesn't include any government departments/institutions, which aren't easy to replace, nor any institution that serves no useful purpose other than spreading SJW propaganda, for which there are no replacements necessary.

Any website that provides a useful & popular service should be on the list, especially sites geared for kids:timeforkids.comkids.nationalgeographic.comsikids.comdiscoverygirls.comhighlights.com

As I've mentioned (in other threads) in regards to the BSA, the Royal Rangers provide an excellent Christian-centric alternative. And as a bonus, being founded as a ministry, it's a little harder for entryists to co-opt.

Agreed on Boy Scouts. In my thinking they have 18 months to Reconquista the lost ground to the SJW's or they are finished. No way will I ever give my boys to a predator, even for a 90 minute meeting while I'm in the building. Unfortunately the closest Trail Life chapter is 60 miles away, so my oldest boy, who asks weekly to join scouting, are out, and I have no way to explain to a 8yo why.

While I'm not a fan of the Assemblies of God, and not a member of that congregation, the local one has one of the largest bodies of any church in the area. That means that they have the resources to do some things that my smaller church can't, so I live with it. Funny enough, even here in Ultra-liberal land (New England), the church is definitely one of the more conservative in the area, and not just relative to the rest of the region.

I would weep for what the Congregational Church I grew up with has become, but they brought it on themselves. I was proud of my chosen church when my pastor announced recently that we'd be updating the church's constitution to say he'd only perform wedding ceremonies between a natural born man and woman, and was willing to be jailed if it came to that.

My only run in with Greenpeace ... several years ago about the time Greenpeace was founded, an hour before daylight when elk hunting season was scheduled to start, Greenpeace activists began shooting high powered rifles into the the air. Presumably to spook the elk. Fifty, a hundred shots. At the time I was hoofing it up the side of a mountain and wondering what the h*ll was going on. I doubt their efforts bore any fruit, but ever since I've thought of Greenpeace as a weaselly outfit.

I know about 5 -10 years ago, they were pretty awful, but they seem to have gone through an overhaul. I have been finding some of the most blatantly anti-sjw stuff there and all very well researched and written without any inflammatory tell-tale bias (that *I* can tell).

Just read an article on Triggers on college campuses and someone at Gay Patriot had linked to an article on educational bias against boys recently.

There should be a major review of companies providing textbooks for schools at all levels. Content containing LGBT, anti-western, pro-diversity themes should be thrown out with the result being material that produce well-educated, positive thinkers.

@129 JWM - Same thing here, except that I have a much smaller circle of friends and acquaintances. I get all my news online. I made my obligatory phone call to my mother the other week (granted, age and religious differences and so forth) but we live in totally different worlds and while I'm well aware of what hers consists of (having run from it), she has no clue that mine even exists. She was speaking about the t.v. she watches with my sister (the "good" shows) and what she read in the Washington Post. Even at the grocery store, where many of the cashiers know me as overtly anti-PC, they have no idea of what I'm speaking about. Their entire world consists of facebook, television, twitter, and whatever narrative the media is pushing. They're not merely stupid or ignorant, they're closer to catatonic and moronic.

Every time my husband begins a rant about HRC and her emails, I remind him the average American (let alone the average voter) has never even heard of the email issue or Benghazi, and if they have heard, they just don't care. As Vox has so often noted, MPAI, and that truly does complicate matters.

Most suggestions here read more like a wish list of what we'd do away with in our perfect world. Vox asked specifically for concrete examples for which there could be an alternative. I would second the suggestion for an alternative to gofundme - I did read there's a Christian alternative somewhere, but I know nothing about it. There have been a number of times I've wanted to donate to the victim of a SJW attack or otherwise support them but there's no venue to do so. That would truly have an impact, particularly if it wasn't limited to only Christian causes.

You don't build new competitive castles next door. You storm the existing castles, kick out or otherwise eliminate the current inhabitants, repurpose the existing infrastructure and remodel. Waste not, want not. In the meantime, build a stronger specified goal oriented network of reciprocal support for interrelated goods and services.

Fair question. Knowing this is an excuse, I will say it anyway: my son is the only boy in my church - we have 36 total members less than half of which are adults and all the children are girls. But saying that the home school group my wife runs has some boys... you intrigue me...

@155 You don't build new competitive castles next door. You storm the existing castles, kick out or otherwise eliminate the current inhabitants, repurpose the existing infrastructure and remodel. Waste not, want not.

The education system is already in the death spiral. Higher ed is sinking fast; community colleges for enrichment, MOOC's for most learning, and things like BICSI for everything else - all these are going gangbusters. These exist and are self-supporting ALREADY. There is nothing to do but wait for the old corpse to rot.

At the lower levels, charter schools, homeschooling, MOOC's for kids, these are also fairly established, but the perceived return is not there as it is for higher ed. But, again, the seeds are planted, the sprouts have sprouted, these are going concerns.

I used to be in the Assemblies of God and left because of what I saw in Royal Rangers.

Never heard Springfield called “Blue Vatican” before.

Pentecostal denominations have changed a lot in my life time. I grew up in the Church of God, Cleveland, TN, and spent over 10 years in the AG. Pentecostal denominations have tended to be egalitarian. While I left the AG because of Royal rangers, I won't go back to the CoG or AG because of egalitarianism.

There is a Christian Scouting program that is not denominationally tied, however. It's known as Christian Service Brigade. They have a number of campgrounds east of the Mississippi. They also have some father-daughter programs, but their emphasis is on the Boy Scout sort of stuff. Various Churches sponsor chapters. Often the program is simply called “Brigade.”

@128She could be Sunni and fight the evil Shia mullahs. Just be sure the show is on cable in Tehran.

@110

The “Electronic Church” is not workable. There is a reason Paul said in Hebrews 10:25 not to forsake the assembling of yourselves together.

The Gates Foundation gave lot of money to the school I worked in. It did little good. The school closed down soon afterwards. Maybe the thing to do is to find out exactly what these groups are spending money on, and go publicize it if it isn't really ding any good.

I understand that the attrition rate for Teach for America is very high. Half of the participants leave the teaching field within five years. It has little effect on anything.

The main problems with the system as it is, besides its silly rules about discrimination, are (1) it doesn't pay enough to replace income while you wait and (2) it doesn't help you find a job (unlike, say, the German version which puts you on a waiting list and then sends you to jobs when they open up).

I'm not proposing a new or changed government program. I'm proposing a private company which would offer real insurance that you could buy. The regulators would hate the idea, but it would certainly pay for itself if it doesn't get squashed by the police state.

I'm taking this request to mean institutions of merit that are yet too influenced by the SJW narrative and likewise participate in its proliferation. Ones of value but also corrupted or heading in that direction.

I'm personally a supporter of the Wounded Warrior Project and the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention. I believe both institutions do good work and I am committed to their causes. However, I have watched them embrace the SJW narrative to varying degrees and it troubles me.

Middle aged men and especially veterans suffer in our country in ways few understand and fewer are willing to do anything about. I like what these two institutions do, but I'm seeing even they can't stand up to the SJW demand to control everything.

What can't be replaced? Merely use entryism to take. Show them that conservatives can take other institutions. The problem with conservatives is, often, too many of them are too busy making money to spare time to do crap like this. It isn't about willpower, it is about priorities. And a full weighing of opportunity costs. Libs don't care, they plan to get rich doing nothing. *cough* Clintons *cough* Or have made it to filthyrichhood and know that to keep it requires a huge overbearing government that will step on competition for them.

The problem with conservatives isn't as you propose. It is merely that it doesn't pay. Worms don't care, they are nihilistic. So they can and do spend the time infecting institutions. Still, the skills are there, if conservatives could see the value of taking over such institutions... without becoming a part of the problem through free access to other people's money. Something that seems to infect many who go that way, even if they start out with "good intentions".

Agreed on Boy Scouts. In my thinking they have 18 months to Reconquista the lost ground to the SJW's or they are finished. No way will I ever give my boys to a predator, even for a 90 minute meeting while I'm in the building. Unfortunately the closest Trail Life chapter is 60 miles away, so my oldest boy, who asks weekly to join scouting, are out, and I have no way to explain to a 8yo why.

You have a very easy solution, which I know I've mentioned before on VP. Start your own BSA Troop (ages 11-17) and or Cub Scout Pack (7-11). It doesn't need to be limited to your church - all you need is 5 boys and three adults. If your son has 4 friends who's parents trust you (or who's parent's you trust), you're set.

BSA is a prime candidate not for replacement but for counter-infilitration. The whole shebang runs on volunteers and 99% at the local level. The actual units - troops and packs - are "owned" by the Charter Orgs. Charter Orgs are local organizations - usually churches (Mormon, Catholic and Methodist being the most common, in that order), but also VFW, American Legion, Union Locals, private businesses, almost anything. We formed our own non-profit to be a charter org that we would retain control of, and the charter org retains control of the scouting experience.

Charter orgs pick the leaders, not BSA. It doesn't matter what "Membership Standards" BSA National cooks up, our charter org (which I am the President of) has 100% absolute and total say in who serves as a leader. And we don't accept applications, we extend invitations. And we don't extend them to people who's moralilty doesn't comport with our ideas.

You can do the same.

But it requires you to spend time. That's the key. If you're going to leave it up to someone else, you can't be all that choosy, because it is a time commitment and an occasional headache. Dealing with 14 year old boys is bad enough, but their parents are often worse because with the 14 year olds you can usually take some satisfaction in seeing them grow out of their stupidity. But their 44 year old mother isn't going to change for the better...

So you have to be willing to put your time in, and you need to find a handful of other like-minded adults who will do the same. It's a lot like homeschooling, except you have an easy, easy path to starting the equivalent of your own charter school as an alternative.

If you decide instead to bank on Trail Life or the Royal Rangers, you will ultimately be dissapointed, because you'll still be relying on relative strangers who are - for whatever reason - willing to spend time with 14 year old boys not their own. In my case, I'm willing to spend time with them partly because I am helping my son's peer group mature and they will have an increasingly large influence on him as he gets older, but also partly because by doing so I spend time with the other adult leaders and get to know them so I am comfortable leaving my son with them for an event.

Frankly someone's attitude towards BSA and the recent idiocy is a good barometer of how sucessful that person will likely be in fighting SJWs. I doubt there is an easier large organiztion to counter-infiltrate, so if your approach is to simply change providers but put no effort in, then you're not likely to be successful anywhere else either.

SJWs and other Lefties succeed in infilitration because they are willing to do the work without getting paid. If you aren't, then you're easy prey for them, because there's a lot of work needed to keep civilization functional that nobody pays for.

If anyone here needs help, advice or suggestions about starting a BSA unit, let me know. I'm more than happy to help.

When your son starts to get past 13, he doesn't listen to daddy as much. He starts listening more and more to his friends. He also starts paying attention to what other men in the community say - he knows his place in the family and he's trying to figure out his place in the rest of society.

If daddy has done his job, his 13 year old son is prepared to grow into a good man, but there are many pitfalls between 13 and 25, and daddy is increasingly not going to be around as his son faces those challenges.

Your teenaged son will be influenced by other people. You can't change that, and the harder you try to prevent it the less influence you will have over him. Influence who those other people will be instead.

@176 When your son starts to get past 13, he doesn't listen to daddy as much. He starts listening more and more to his friends. He also starts paying attention to what other men in the community say - he knows his place in the family and he's trying to figure out his place in the rest of society.

I'm pretty sure we're trying to simplify things to the lowest common denominator here. Man-stuff is daddy-stuff. If you can't manage it, that's on you.

I'm pretty sure we're trying to simplify things to the lowest common denominator here. Man-stuff is daddy-stuff. If you can't manage it, that's on you.

You're missing the point. He's going to want to start doing "man-stuff" with people other than daddy, because he's subconsciously trying to separate himself from daddy so he can establish his own identity. Sometime between when your son turns 13 and 17, you will become just about the dumbest person on the face of the Earth. About ten years later, assuming the kid lives that long, you will get smart again.

That's how nature works. It means there's a period where you cannot expect to guide him, and it coincides with a period when the average human male is at his most reckless.

Almost every traditional society in human history has provisions for this, except of course ours which is far too sophisticated for all that nonsense.

@179 You're missing the point. He's going to want to start doing "man-stuff" with people other than daddy, because he's subconsciously trying to separate himself from daddy so he can establish his own identity

No you fucking moron, I'm taking charge of the program. That's how it works with BSA - the charter org runs the show. The nitwits in Irving Texas go around raising money and giving speeches, but the volunteers in the local community are the ones actually putting on the program.

You can make it whatever you want, as long as you're willing to do the work.

I think something like SourceFed, the 16-24 year old bracket's main source of political news now that Stewart is gone, would be easily replaced, and some pretty dramatic headway could be made among younger people.

They're a YouTube giant, built mainly by Google, who recruited YouTube stars to talk politics and news; but the quality of the programming is very low. With decent production value and a modest budget, someone like The Blaze or Breitbart could dominate that market immediately, if they were willing to rebrand. The very thoroughly taught hatred of talk radio, etc would taint it if there were any obvious connections.It wouldn't even have to be an incredibly Red Pill-esque source, just one that doesn't cater to SJW nonsense.

I've long thought that a decentralised alternative to GitHub would be useful.

The reason I have a GitHub account is because it allows me to:

1) Easily copy an open source repository,2) Make and submit changes to it, that can be easily included by the maintainer3) And get proper credit for those changes.

3 can be handled by using OpenHub (an information database for Open Source projects) on your resume instead of GitHub, which is better anyhow since it can list data for projects not hosted by GitHub as well. Currently I'm not aware of OpenHub doing anything that would qualify as problematic, and it would be very easy to replace in the future if that changed.

The other two are the problem with normal decentralisation though. Both can be done manually, but that adds a little bit more difficulty to the process, and makes them that much less likely to be adopted. The solution would seem to be a standard communication format that allows the different solutions to talk to each other. Something using XML or JSON probably.

Basically I imagine you'd just enter a URL you got from the project's home page, and click a "fork" button and the software would handle it on the backend (this is for step 1), and "your" system could submit a "pull request" with all the data to "their" server easy-peasy once you where willing to publicise your patches.

This could all be done over http/s pretty easily; there may be a few small issues regarding authentication and avoiding spammers, but integration with OpenID could help with that.

(I'd probably actually be looking into doing this myself already (perhaps with the GitGud team), but I work for one of GitHub's competitors (in the Corporate, non-open source environments), and this would probably be a little bit too dangerously close to the non-compete clauses in my contract. And before you ask, no, I don't believe my company would be a good option for taking the lead on this)

Jack, I agree with everything you're saying about how you have to maintain local control, and shouldn't look for any large organization to turn your kids over to. You shouldn't let anyone you don't know well lead your kids. But I don't get from there to your conclusion that there's something weak about switching to a different scouting organization.

If you've done the hard work of creating your local charter org, and you're doing due diligence in keeping the wrong people out of your group, and you decide for whatever reason that you want to align your group with a national organization, why pick national org A which opposes some of what you're doing and whose influences you'll have to fight against, rather than national org B which (at the moment, at least) agrees with what you're doing?

I assume that one reason to align with a national group at all is so that you can combine with other groups for activities beyond the scale of a single group. When you do, wouldn't you prefer to be hanging out with groups that share your beliefs, instead of wondering if one of them will show up with rainbow-colored tents? Aren't they part of your kids' peer group, in a small way? Does it concern you at all that your continued association with BSA lends credibility to the national organization's changes?

If alternatives to BSA didn't exist, I could see it. But they do. So those who go to the Rangers or whatever aren't abandoning one perfectly good group and starting over; they're choosing the group that fits them best. If they stay with BSA and try to fix it, the other groups will die, so something dies either way. If BSA were just starting to show signs of SJW entryism and could still be yanked back on track, I could see it. But it's not; it's been trending that way for a while now, and it's hard to tell how deep it's been infiltrated and how hard it would be to root them out. I'm sure you have a better idea about that than I do.

I know it's a tough call. I have a godson in Scouts, and I haven't said a word about it. His dad mentioned that they'd looked into a competing group, but they didn't care for the guy who was already leading it locally (he sounds like the "Now I can do it right (my way)" type), and as Scouts they have access to some nice campgrounds and facilities and built-in ties to the community. There's a lot of history and momentum there, which is good for a boy to identify with.

But I also assume there's a line BSA could cross that would make you leave as others have done -- maybe adding "respect for all beliefs" to the oath or something like that. So it's not a question of whether it's right or wrong to abandon a group that's lost its way, but how you decide when the effort of counter-infiltration becomes greater than the effort of starting over somewhere better. Different people draw that line in different places, which doesn't make either of them fools.

But I don't get from there to your conclusion that there's something weak about switching to a different scouting organization.

Cail, it's not switching itself that is ineffective, it's switching without putting in the personal effort. If your son is part of a Boy Scout troop that you personally aren't active with, and you decide to switch him to a Trail Life outfit that you still aren't personally active with, it's nothing but a crap shoot whether the new outfit is any better.

If you've done the hard work of creating your local charter org, and you're doing due diligence in keeping the wrong people out of your group

That's the key - if you've done that work, you do have your choice. If you haven't done that work, your choices are defined by the people who have. That's the most important point I want to get across.

If BSA were just starting to show signs of SJW entryism and could still be yanked back on track, I could see it. But it's not; it's been trending that way for a while now,

BSA is governed primarily by the Mormon and Catholic churches. Their recent actions are mostly because of money - they're worried about losing access to corporate charity dollars. That is a problem in itself.

But in the fight against SWJs, I think there are three basic responses to any organization infected with SJWism - replace, destroy or counter-infilitrate.

Wikipedia is a good candidate for replacing, since they have a top-down control structure. It's hard to infiltrate them because SJWs are in positions to freeze you out.

Something like SPLC is a candidate for simply destroying as they do nothing good or useful.

BSA I consider an excellent candidate for counter-infilitraiton, as they are very much driven by local volunteers. Not only can you begin to build influence in the larger organization, you can run your local show pretty much how you want in the meantime. The only control BSA National exerts over membership is telling you who can't be a member - and that's mostly for known or strongly suspected pedos. They might change their standards to say rainbow farting unicorns are allowed as members, but your local organization doesnt' need to accept any unicorns if you don't want to.

If BSA ever decided to start requiring membership for certain groups (affirmative action -ish) that would be the biggest line they would cross, not just with me but with pretty much their entire volunteer structure. LDS wards are not going to partner with anyone who interferes with their selection of youth leaders.

So absolutely, everyone has to make a choice and maybe there are other orgs you'd rather counter-infilitrate, but BSA is a mother beautiful candidate for this.

Jack, thanks, makes sense. Agreed that parents should never trust an organization just because it says/said the right things. You have to do the work yourself. Like I said, you know the organization better than I do, so I'll take your word for it that the locals won't let BSA keep going down the SJW slope. Good luck with your counter-insurgency!

I'll take your word for it that the locals won't let BSA keep going down the SJW slope

Well, that all depends on whether enough people stick it out. If too many take a mig-tow style approach, it won't work. Which is why I am doing a little recruiting here and being so harsh on rho.

Good luck with your counter-insurgency!

Thanks! FWIW, we're handing rifles, pistols and shotguns to young men and teaching them how to use them. Bows and throwing hawks too. We also give them knives as prizes. Possibly our guys aren't the safest targets for any pedos.