History YMMV / TropicThunder

** The "I'm a dude" line (again by RDJ's character) ends up as this thanks to two of his subsequent roles: [[spoiler: first was his "stealthy" pursuit (fake nose and all)]] in ''Film/{{Sherlock Holmes|2009}}'', and second was [[spoiler:with the reveal of Comic/IronMan's [[MetaMecha Hulkbuster]] armor]] in ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron''.

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** The "I'm a dude" line (again by RDJ's character) ends up as this thanks to two of his subsequent roles: [[spoiler: first was his "stealthy" pursuit (fake nose and all)]] in ''Film/{{Sherlock Holmes|2009}}'', and second was [[spoiler:with the reveal of Comic/IronMan's Iron Man's [[MetaMecha Hulkbuster]] armor]] in ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron''.

** While being a film producer with a temper could be a reference to ''any'' film producer, Grossman is most certainly a pretty blatant parody of Harvey Weinstein in particular, given his physical appearance (being balding, overweight, and having a scraggy beard). Then the 2017 sexual harassment cases happened. Combining that with Harvey's tendency to edit films without the approval of their directors, [[DamnedByFaintPraise Grossman comes off as the NICE version of Weinstein]].

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** While being a film producer with a temper could be a reference to ''any'' film producer, Grossman is most certainly seems to be a pretty blatant parody of Harvey Weinstein in particular, particular given his physical appearance (being balding, overweight, and having a scraggy beard). Then the 2017 sexual harassment cases happened. Combining that with Harvey's tendency to edit films without the approval of their directors, [[DamnedByFaintPraise Grossman comes off as the NICE version of Weinstein]].

** '''ALPA CHINO GOT DAT PUSSY CONTROL!'''*** '''ALPA CHINO'S BOOTY SWEAT: POP AN ASSSSS OPEN!!!'''* EnsembleDarkhorse: Creator/TomCruise's character surprisingly steals the entire movie as the most badass producer ever filmed. [[http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/06/09/tom-cruise-les-grossman/ He's even getting his own movie.]]** It's pretty damn hard to top a rant like the "Fuck Your Own Face" speech. Even more hilarious is the guy's expression on the other side of the telephone.** "Big-Ass Titties" Cody.

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** '''ALPA CHINO GOT DAT PUSSY CONTROL!'''*** CONTROL!''' / '''ALPA CHINO'S BOOTY SWEAT: POP AN ASSSSS OPEN!!!'''* EnsembleDarkhorse: Creator/TomCruise's character surprisingly steals the entire movie as the most badass producer ever filmed. [[http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/06/09/tom-cruise-les-grossman/ He's even getting his own movie.]]** It's pretty damn hard to top a rant like the "Fuck Your Own Face" speech. Even more hilarious is the guy's expression on the other side of the telephone.** "Big-Ass Titties" Cody.telephone.

* GeniusBonus: The song that plays while Lazarus & Maguire suggestively fondle each other's rosaries & react to each other is no generic techno track. It's "Sadeness (Part 1)" by Music/{{Enigma}}, a chart-topping single from 1990. Its use is no mistake: The song, in French with Gregorian chants in Latin, criticizes the sexual & religious views of the legendary MarquisDeSade, an AnythingThatMoves French nobleman known as a figure of UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution for his utterly pornographic & blasphemous works. When he wasn't screwing everything with a hole in it - or in some cases [[BodyHorror making holes for himself to screw]] - he was blaspheming against the Catholic Church. Far from being generic, the choice of music had to be deliberate.

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* GeniusBonus: The song that plays while Lazarus & and Maguire suggestively fondle each other's rosaries & and react to each other is no generic techno track. It's "Sadeness (Part 1)" by Music/{{Enigma}}, a chart-topping single from 1990. Its use is no mistake: coincidence: The song, in French with Gregorian chants in Latin, criticizes the sexual & and religious views of the legendary MarquisDeSade, an Creator/MarquisDeSade, the AnythingThatMoves French nobleman known as a figure of UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution for his utterly pornographic & and blasphemous works. When he wasn't screwing everything with a hole in it - or in some cases [[BodyHorror making holes for himself to screw]] - he was blaspheming against the Catholic Church. Far from being generic, the choice of music had to be deliberate.

** Grossman is a pretty blatant parody of Harvey Weinstein. Then the 2017 sexual harassment cases happened. Combining that with Harvey's tendency to edit films without the approval of their directors, [[DamnedByFaintPraise Grossman comes off as the NICE version of Weinstein]]. * HilariousInHindsight: Less than two years after ''Tropic Thunder'' was released, the very white Creator/GerardDepardieu was cast to play the author Creator/AlexandreDumas (who had an African grandparent and was known to his friends as "Le Negre") in a biopic. [[http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/film/article7026786.ece Guess what happened]].

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** While being a film producer with a temper could be a reference to ''any'' film producer, Grossman is most certainly a pretty blatant parody of Harvey Weinstein.Weinstein in particular, given his physical appearance (being balding, overweight, and having a scraggy beard). Then the 2017 sexual harassment cases happened. Combining that with Harvey's tendency to edit films without the approval of their directors, [[DamnedByFaintPraise Grossman comes off as the NICE version of Weinstein]]. * HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight: ** Less than two years after ''Tropic Thunder'' was released, the very white Creator/GerardDepardieu was cast to play the author Creator/AlexandreDumas (who had an African grandparent and was known to his friends as "Le Negre") in a biopic. [[http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/film/article7026786.ece Guess what happened]].

*** RDJ also immediately went on to make a movie where he played a character trying to nurture an InspirationallyDisadvantaged cellist.

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*** ** The "full retard" speech is also hilarious in that RDJ also immediately went on to make a movie where he played a character trying to nurture an InspirationallyDisadvantaged cellist.cellist in ''The Cellist''.

** The "I'm a dude" line (again by RDJ's character) ends up as this thanks to two of his subsequent roles: [[spoiler: first was his "stealthy" pursuit (fake nose and all)]] in ''Film/SherlockHolmes'', and second was [[spoiler:with the reveal of Comic/IronMan's [[MetaMecha Hulkbuster]] armor]] in ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron''.** The "Satan's Alley" trailer is even funnier after ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' had Iron Man acting as a mentor to Spider-Man (albeit with the latter having changed actors).

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** The "I'm a dude" line (again by RDJ's character) ends up as this thanks to two of his subsequent roles: [[spoiler: first was his "stealthy" pursuit (fake nose and all)]] in ''Film/SherlockHolmes'', ''Film/{{Sherlock Holmes|2009}}'', and second was [[spoiler:with the reveal of Comic/IronMan's [[MetaMecha Hulkbuster]] armor]] in ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron''.** The "Satan's Alley" trailer trailer, where Downey's character carries an illicit relationship with a character played by Creator/TobeyMaguire, best known for his portrayal of Franchise/SpiderMan in the ''Film/SpiderManTrilogy'', is even funnier after ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' had Downey's character Iron Man acting as a mentor to Spider-Man (albeit with the latter having changed actors).

* MemeticMutation: Just about any line that comes out of Kirk Lazarus and Les Grossman's mouths.** I'M A LEAD FARMER, MOTHERFUCKER!** You just went ''full'' retard, man. ''Never'' go full retard.*** And by extension, the use of "Never go full X," (example: "Never go full Umbrella Corporation") snowclones.** '''I KNOW WHO I AM!''' I'm a dude playin' a dude disguised as another dude!** What do you mean, "you people?" *** What do ''you'' mean, "you people?"

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* MemeticMutation: Just about any line that comes out of Kirk Lazarus and Les Grossman's mouths.MemeticMutation: ** I'M "I'M A LEAD FARMER, MOTHERFUCKER!MOTHERFUCKER!"** You "You just went ''full'' retard, man. ''Never'' go full retard.*** And retard," and by extension, the use of "Never go full X," (example: "Never go full Umbrella Corporation") snowclones.** '''I "'''I KNOW WHO I AM!''' I'm a dude playin' a dude disguised as another dude!dude!"** What "What do you mean, "you people?" *** What 'you people?'" "What do ''you'' mean, "you people?"'you people?'"

** Creator/RobertDowneyJr as well, as this and ''Film/IronMan'' are considered to be the two films that made him undergo a CareerResurrection.

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** Creator/RobertDowneyJr as well, as this this, ''Film/IronMan1'', and ''Film/IronMan'' ''Film/{{Sherlock Holmes|2009}}'' are considered to be the two films that made him undergo a CareerResurrection.

** Grossman is apparently a parody of Harvey Weinstein. Then the 2017 sexual harassment cases happened. Combining that with Harvey's tendency to edit films without the approval of their directors, [[Main/DamnedByFaintestPraise Grossman comes off as the nice version of Weinstein]].

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** Grossman is apparently a pretty blatant parody of Harvey Weinstein. Then the 2017 sexual harassment cases happened. Combining that with Harvey's tendency to edit films without the approval of their directors, [[Main/DamnedByFaintestPraise [[DamnedByFaintPraise Grossman comes off as the nice NICE version of Weinstein]].

** Les Grossman lives and breathes this trope and every other sentence that comes out of his mouth is either criminally intimidating or outrageously offensive, often both. He gets away with it because he's just so over-the-top hilarious.

** Grossman is apparently a parody of Harvey Weinstein. Then the 2017 sexual harassment cases happened. Combining that with Harvey's tendency to edit films without the approval of their directors, [[Main/DamnedByFaintestPraise Grossman comes off as the nice version of Weinstein]].

** Kirk Lazarus....just the whole ''idea'' of Kirk Lazarus. A white American actor playing a black man is horribly offensive and outdated....but a white American actor playing a white Australian actor playing a ''black'' American actor playing a black man is some kind of twisted genius. It helps that it's treated as [[DudeNotFunny horribly offensive]] in-universe as well. Out of universe.....it's hilarious.

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** Kirk Lazarus....just the whole ''idea'' of Kirk Lazarus. A white American actor playing a black man is horribly offensive and outdated....but a white American actor playing a white Australian actor playing a ''black'' American actor playing a black man is some kind of twisted genius. It helps that it's treated as [[DudeNotFunny horribly offensive]] in-universe as well. Out of universe.....it's hilarious.

** Kirk Lazarus....just the whole ''idea'' of Kirk Lazarus. A white American actor playing a black man is horribly offensive and outdated....but a white American actor playing a white Australian actor playing a ''black'' American actor playing a black man is some kind of twisted genius. It helps that it's treated as [[DudeNotFunny horribly offensive]] in-universe as well. Out of universe.....it's hilarious.

* ValuesDissonance: One of the fastest examples ever; while the accusations that the film was mocking mentally handicapped people were generally misplaced, the furore created by the whole thing is credited in having played a big part in rapidly propelling the word "retard" from being commonly used as a synonym for "dumb" to being considered an extremely offensive term on par with most racial or homophobic insults. About the only reason why it's still considered even vaguely acceptable to quote the "full retard" speech these days is because it CrossesTheLineTwice.

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* ValuesDissonance: One of the fastest examples ever; while the accusations that the film was mocking mentally handicapped people were generally misplaced, the furore created by the whole thing is credited in having played a big part in rapidly propelling the word "retard" from being commonly used as a synonym for "dumb" to being considered an extremely offensive term on par with most racial or homophobic insults. About the only reason why it's still considered even vaguely acceptable to quote the "full retard" speech these days is because it due to a combination of GrandfatherClause, the fact that the scene actually is parodying the attitude many actors take towards OscarBait roles, and that the speech CrossesTheLineTwice.

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