July 26, 2011

"He believes that he is in a war and in a war you can do things like that... He has a view of reality that is very difficult to explain... I cannot describe him because he is not like anyone... This was an attack on the Labor Party.”

But speaking of views of reality that are very difficult to explain, for murdering 86 human beings, Breivik faces a prison sentence of merely 21 years. According to the linked article, prosecutors are considering charging Breivik with "crimes against humanity," and that would push the maximum sentence up to a big 30 years.

LOCAL PROBLEM! The "city of the piss prize" owns this lunatic! They are very heavily invested in coddling terrorists. They take pride, for instance, in having given Arafat a piss prize. And, they think they're way more enlightened than you. Because they gave a piss prize. With its attached million dollars, to algore.

So, let them twirl their medals all they want.

I learned everything I needed to know about Norway, at Lillihammer.

Would I have guessed it would take the real police 90 minutes to show up to Utoya Island, a ten minute buzz away by ferry ... AN HOUR AND A HALF? Hey, that's the length of a movie!

Maybe, the first tip off that Breivik was a fake cop was the speed he used to get from setting off the bombs in the square, to Utoya?

Maybe, everything in Oslo just moves slow?

Will it move to understand this man had FREE ACCESS for 32 years?

And, will they please clue us in on how this vegetable grower was able to get money to grow on trees.

Nobody noticed! But America is responsible. We're being called upon "TO UNDERSTAND."

The nightmare created by this idiot is only overshadowed by the fact that the Norwegians appear not to be able to come to grips that evil does, in fact, exist, and their legal structure seems ill-equipped to deal with it.

It is galling how for years and years Norway tried to tweek our politics with their choices for the Peace Prize. That they did so remains a fact, even in the face of these horrible events. I don't know how to square these things.

Truly, one doesn't have to be a pro-capital punishment scold to wonder: just who is Norway prepared to see you kill before they decide to put you away for life?

The one nagging question here is: is this because they're prepared to use extra-judicial fiats of the psychiatric sort (or something to that effect) to pad out sentences if something, ah, unexpected, should arise?

In 60 years the Muslims will overrun Europe--- that's what he is saying, duh. Of course you can't condone his action, but the governments of Europe, by coddling Islam, have put themselves on the path to demographic and political destruction. His message is dead on correct, his action was an act of desperation.

When I lived in Finland the maximum sentence was seven years. However, it was also possible to keep someone under psychiatric detention for life. This is my guess about the Norwegian legal situation that Breivik faces. He doesn't seem to understand that individuals cannot legaly declare war. This is a delusion he shares with Al-Qaeda. Governments alone have the right to legally and formally declare war. No matter what happens, Breivik will never get out again.

The nightmare created by this idiot is only overshadowed by the fact that the Norwegians appear not to be able to come to grips that evil does, in fact, exist, and their legal structure seems ill-equipped to deal with it.

If you don't believe in God, why should you believe in evil?

If you you don't believe in electrons, why should you bother with positrons?

Or if you need experimental confirmation for everything: if you don't believe in the Higgs Boson, why should you believe in its anti-particle?

Breivik will die behind bars. When his 21 or 30 year sentence is up Norwegian prison officials can simply increase his sentence in 5 year blocks by declaring him too dangerous to release. Which they will.

Or if you need experimental confirmation for everything: if you don't believe in the Higgs Boson, why should you believe in its anti-particle?

If they don't find the HB by next summer, I'm going to appeal the C my son got in physics a couple years back on the basis that the underlying framework of reality is not understood well enough to grade him below a B.

I would love to have the gall, even for a moment, to make moral judgements about Norway's justice system even as their victims' bodies are still warm. Please, please show me where to get that kind of brazen, disgusting gall. It could come in handy.

In AMURKA capital punishment and punitive prison sentences have prevented such massacres from ever happening, right?? Those stupid Norwegians! Their first mistake was not being American.

I second Mick. Breivik's heinous crime doesn't cancel out the heinous crime of the European one world open borders crowd against their own indigenous white people. That right, indigenous, protected and all that, just like the fucking Native Americans.

Breivik is right about the world understanding his viewpoint, but it has seen this lesson since 1993 when Al Qaeda started it.

A fragile network of modern communications, energy supply and financial markets is vulnerable to small numbers of educated weapon users who take a vow to destroy it.

The damage is containable until it gets State funding, as does Al Qaeda from Saudi Arabian sources.

We are face to face with it in the Marxist Enviromental movement once funded by the CIA and now carried on by a network of wealthy liberals.

It has even captured the American Presidency and is now getting a State funding source through "Stimulus Bills" and EPA Budgets.

The common denominator among these groups of destroyers has always their agreement on the singular goal of stopping Jews from living their lives in peace in Jerusalem, the City of Peace. (Those pesky 1949 borders and all that.)

@Mary: I'm guessing that the 86 vs 68 confusion arose from a mistranslation of the way Norwegians (and other Germanic languages) enunciate numerals. They still use the old "four and twenty blackbirds" to say "24 blackbirds".

So "eight and sixty" (68) could have been mistranslated as 86. Just a thought with no proof. But it is hard to imagine that they miscounted bodies.

"Mick said...In 60 years the Muslims will overrun Europe--- that's what he is saying, duh. Of course you can't condone his action, but the governments of Europe, by coddling Islam, have put themselves on the path to demographic and political destruction. His message is dead on correct, his action was an act of desperation."

Won't take 60 years. Just hope that they wake up, and when they do, it won't be too late.

I've just suffered through an hour of the Diane Rehm Show where they dwelled incessantly on the anti-immigrant angle, and that's a red herring.

This guy murdered 76 ethnic Norwegians, not immigrants, and attempted to murder the (Labor) Prime Minister because he thought his primary enemies were "cultural Marxists".

What most worries me about this whole episode is that, even after their own children are murdered, Europe's social democratic intelligentsia cannot bring themselves to understand that THEY are the target. Someone hates THEM with a murderous passion, and is willing to act upon it.

This inability to name such a monstrous evil when it's standing right in front of you bodes ill for Europe.

Is this a crime against humanity? Only if you define it downwards.This is why I support the death penalty. When the death penalty is abolished, "life in prison" seems cruel.Of course, if they gave him 21 years for each murder, then he'd be away for life.

Yes, the Norges are so enlightened, they first let the Moslems run wild, gang-raping women and then make excuses for it, and then let the nut who killed 68 of their own out in time to collect retirement.

chickenlittle is right. The Norges have been using the Peace Prize to show how superior they are to us, but they can't even protect their own people.

franglo said...

I would love to have the gall, even for a moment, to make moral judgements about Norway's justice system even as their victims' bodies are still warm. Please, please show me where to get that kind of brazen, disgusting gall. It could come in handy.

franglo seems to summon the gall any time he thinks he can make capital out of the slightest hint (usually phony) of a Lefty being attacked. He doesn't have to be shown where to get it, it oozes out of every one of his pores.

In AMURKA capital punishment and punitive prison sentences have prevented such massacres from ever happening, right?? Those stupid Norwegians! Their first mistake was not being American.

That's right. Anybody notice there were no Todd Beemers on that island? Socialist Norway turned its people into such a pack of sheep that no one did what Americans often do.

But since Norway has such a low murder rate among developed nations, isn't there something to be said about the 21year max sentence? Sure in certain cases it seems to be ridiculously light, but if murders manage to stay so low in spite of the light sentencing, doesn't that say something about the law's effectiveness in preventing deaths? I'm not a big law guy, but it seems like there are interesting questions here

If true, any reistance movement or colonial uprising or liberation movement is automatically "criminal and illegal" - just as the Soviets, Nazis, Israelis, and colonial powers have always insisted it was! (Before they kissed the ass of the new "father of the nation, revolution" trying to renew post-indepence/rev. government - ties)

***************"ricpic said...I second Mick. Breivik's heinous crime doesn't cancel out the heinous crime of the European one world open borders crowd against their own indigenous white people."

I 3rd Mick. Somebody had to strike the 1st blow in the war against the Marxist MultiKultis and collaborators with the Islamic enemy, and it happened to be Breivik jumping the gun. Many countries have tried using "hate laws" to block peaceful political opposition to mass muslim immigration...including Norway. And it is time for them to realize the consquences of telling opponents that their only two options are acquiescence to the MultiKultis or unthinkable violence that everyone will "deplore" more than "hateful ideas".*************21 years is pretty tame stuff for 68 lives. With nice accomodations, conjugal visits, and cable TV. No wonder Breivik didn't shoot himself as police (finally) got there.

Breivik will die behind bars. When his 21 or 30 year sentence is up Norwegian prison officials can simply increase his sentence in 5 year blocks by declaring him too dangerous to release. Which they will.

Yeah, wehn I first read about the 21 years thing on FOX News and PowerLine, I spend a couple minutes googling and found that they can keep him in prison for life by extending it in 5 year blocks. It's safe to assume this terrorist will never be released.

Not sure why this blogger didn't check on that too. I guess she wanted another thread of people bashing Norway as a bunch of crazy liberals.

But, um, look at America's criminal justice system. We're trying to set a world record on how many people we can lock up and yet our cities remain infested with violent crime. And, if yu visit the typical American jail, you'll find a lot of mentally ill people because we choose to use the jail system to deal with the mentally ill instead of mental health facilities. That is, when they aren't roaming around homeless and begging for spare change.

Well, just for starters. If Norway wants "more democracy" ... all they have to do is get rid of their king and queen.

And, bone up on getting their police to react at least as fast as Breivik. Who managed to pop off two bombs in the town's center square. Then he toodled, fully loaded, to the ferry.

I bet they don't have arrows in Oslo showing tourists how to "catch a ferry."

As to what Norway stands for, Breivik exposed the joke.

If he's a madman ... he fits right into his surroundings. Besides, he not only grows vegetables. He grows trees with money dangling off the branches. How do I know this?

He's not your usual nut job. He didn't have to stand on street corners with a tin cup.

His dad left the family half his lifetime, ago. Yet, ya know what? This couldn't have happened in germany.

So I blame the piss prize, itself.

And, Norwegians wouldn't be able to find a maniac among them, either. It took something this big to expose the whole creep setup.

But Breivik doesn't have to worry. He'll be well fed in jail. And, he'll even get conjugal visits ... should another cell member appear ... and want to go there to talk about, and re-live, old times.

You might think Norway is about democracy. But since Lillihammer, I haven't been fooled.

Is this your first exposure to their national insanity?

You know they never asked arafat, or algore, to return their medals. And, the million dollars each? Wow. Maybe, they'll share their secret on how they get trees to shed money like that? Doesn't that perk up your curiosity?

Or is "money grows on trees" ... just standard bullshit?

What did Breivik burn up, here? Photographs? Outfits? Guns? Bullets? Friendly companions? Has he ever killed anyone else? Was that how he started digging holes for this "fertilizer?"

It's going to stay LOCAL because the Norwegians want to "blame America, first."

It's going to take spies going into Oslo, disguised as "vacationers," to pierce the bubble. And, explode the truth. By then? Breivik will be dead. One way. Or another.

My guess it has more to do with a population under five million which is over 95% ethnically homogeneous.

This. I remember seeing a study a few years back that concentrated on homogeneous populations and crime rates and found astounding similarities. The higher the homogeneous rate, the lower the violent crime.

What most worries me about this whole episode is that, even after their own children are murdered, Europe's social democratic intelligentsia cannot bring themselves to understand that THEY are the target. Someone hates THEM with a murderous passion, and is willing to act upon it.

Of course they refuse to accept the full horror of this and will divert attention to red herrings.

educator some facts about rape in Norway:The police report referred to is Voldtekt i den globale byen (Rape in the global city) which provides a detailed analysis of the rape statistics in Oslo during 2010. The report in fact shows that, of 131 individuals charged with the 152 rapes in which the perpetrator could be identified, 45.8% were of African, Middle Eastern or Asian origin while the majority – 54.2% – were of Norwegian, other European or American origin.

"...The report in fact shows that, of 131 individuals charged with the 152 rapes in which the perpetrator could be identified, 45.8% were of African, Middle Eastern or Asian origin while the majority –54.2% –were of Norwegian, other European or American origin..."

According to the CIA factbook, they would account for 2% of the population. So 2% account for 45.8% of reported rapes.

Arafat's minions cooked up a scheme that fooled the Mossad. They placed a look-alike waiter for a terrorist. And, let the Mossad grab the bait.

The hit team did not make it out of Norway. For the palistinians, it was a triumph.

Meanwhile, in Dubai, where one terrorist lay dead in a five-star hotel room; the Mossad sent in EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEIR AGENTS with an assignment! They needed to be captured on the security tapes.

And, they were!

The Mossad got in and out. Interpol went nuts. But the Mossad just waved their fingers at the whole muslem kit and kaboodle.

Then? Well, recently after iran had to replace every single centrifuge because of STUXNET ... a single iranian who was their top scientist ... was shot dead ... by two people passing by on a motorcycle.

It's not nice work. But if it's not done you can't survive all the arab attempts, ahead, to use a nuclear device.

So far. So good.

And, I learned about Norway being full of idiots ... at Lillihammer. As to the piss prize. Or the peace shit. They're more than welcome to it.

It's a local problem. They refuse to make any links to others. And, they also refuse to explain how cops don't have to show up. And, how you pick up injured people just by having 4 people grab one arm, and one leg.

But it's not the best way to do it.

Nor does it lead to more democracy. (Which they don't have, by definition! Instead they have a king and queen. And, PC.)

And, they're still trying to sell themselves as being safe. Rather than sorry.

I wish people would stop calling the people killed on that island "children". They were teenagers and young adults. Many were years older than I was went I went to Viet Nam where lots of people shot at me. I may not have been old enough to buy a beer, Stateside, but I wasn't a child.

The European ruling class is trying hard to change Europe. Strangely some Europeans do not see the advantages of being forced into a way of life far different than their parents.

This seldom has worked. Let's see, the Mensheviks tried in 1917. Then there was the Weimar Republic in the '20s. Then there was the Spanish Republic. Somehow this never seems to end well but they keep trying. And they are always surprised when someone picks up the gun.

If true, any resistance movement or colonial uprising or liberation movement is automatically "criminal and illegal.”

This is a very common rationalization frequently used by all kinds of splinter groups. The answer, in a word, is “no.”

But just for grins: Resistance to what? Uprising against what? Liberation movement from what and toward what?

Are there legitimate avenues for redress of grievances? Is there representation allowed in governing bodies? Are there fair elections? How much degree of suppression is present?

Instead of being excused for murdering innocents maybe the Oslo murderer should be expected to use nonviolent means for his ends. If he didn’t like things as they were he could have organized his own party and won an election or two. I hear Norway has a democratic political system.