AT&T's sales numbers for the quarter suggest iPhone 8 sales are not beating any records

AT&T has reported slower sales and 900,000 fewer smartphone upgrades for the past quarter, which includes more than a week of iPhone availability.

Historically, iPhone sales are strongest in the first days of availability and in the Holiday quarter, so this is clearly a troubling sign. While AT&T does not break down unit sales by model, the iPhone has been the dominant phone on all US carriers in the past few years, so this clearly has a lot to do with lower demand for the iPhone 8.

This can be explained in many different ways: the trend is for less people to upgrade recently as the smartphone market matures. But also, it's not hard to understand why many people are not buying the new iPhone 8: after all, in just around 3 weeks, the Apple iPhone X is expected to finally be available for purchase.

The $1,000 iPhone X is the 10th anniversary iPhone and features a new edge-to-edge screen (with a notch), an improved design, a new gesture-based navigation and Face ID in place of the Touch ID.

posted on Oct 13, 2017, 12:54 PM 3

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posted on Oct 13, 2017, 5:58 PM 0

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Even before iPhone 8 Apple gain market share all over the world and I wonder why is that?? Lol People cannot be deceived by trolls like you anymore. They know what's cheap in quality and high in quality. Specs wise Android wins by specs for main stream consumer is like.......meh. They don't give a shit about what they can or cannot do on their phone. Rather they care about the quality, reliability and how they do things. Simply put, the user experience.

posted on Oct 13, 2017, 12:57 PM 3

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posted on Oct 13, 2017, 1:25 PM 4

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The iPhone 8 and 8 Plus lack fast charging out of the box, and is according to some reports isn't any better than the competition's quick charging. The iPhone X is "top of the line" but has a clunkier interface and lacks a fingerprint scanner.
Apple really doesn't care enough about even a product they care more about than their S-Models to include staple features, and won't likely bring them back period. So stupid.

posted on Oct 13, 2017, 1:46 PM 1

I understand there are a few people that like to have a wired solution - but if your statement is true (and may others on this forum that think 3.5jack is important) why did 7/7+had a better year than previous models? The lack of the “jack” did not hinder iPhone sales one bit - that means to me that it’s overrated. I haven’t used mine in years - and I had it on my old iPhone and android phones. $20 wireless “necklase” headphones have been a godsend for those who hate untangling wires. (And the ones about to post “quality” or “charging” commments - spare me, I’m fully aware of pros and cons - and I choose wireless! As many others!
But yeah it’s not that the iPhone 8 lack of headphone jack - it’s the upcoming X. If that was true it would have been the iPhone 7/7+ that suffered - but it didn’t, it sold extreemly well.

posted on Oct 13, 2017, 4:28 PM 0

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Because every cycle people with older phones who upgrade IOS, are forced to get a new one because your old one is so slow.
Also I would say, every 2 years is a strong upgrade cycle for most
Because in the US, every carrier has leasing plan that allow you to upgrade every 2 years at no cost
So if You had an iPhone 6, your lease ran out at least after 18 or 24 months allowing you to upgrade to the 7 at no cost.
Ever though of that?
No because that wouldn't jive with the fact every one thinks everyone is waiting for the iPhone X.
Well just remember, after the I phone 8 and X were announced, S8 sales went up. So many have an S8 now and sure many are waiting for the X.
But for how long if it's delayed until Dec?
Many will be getting more money like bonuses around the holiday, so for them it's perfect timing. But what about others?

posted on Oct 13, 2017, 8:17 PM 1

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That is false. The payments on lease or finance all are based on the phones cost.
If you choose an 18 month lease, they spread the phone cost over 24 months and you pay 12 months or 50% the retail cost. Then you upgrade.
It's for people who woukd normally buy a phone. You still pay the same. So how is it a ripoff?
On TMO's Jump, you can upgrade 3 times a year to any phone you want, you simply bring back the one in mint condition.
I can . They own the pjone until you pay it off. What's so bad about that?
If I wanted a new phone every year. It means I can own at least 2 phones for the full retail price of one.
The carriers make money from providing you services. They have already paid for the phone and are only charging you what it woukd on retail.
Come on man!

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posted on Oct 13, 2017, 10:34 PM 0

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"Because every cycle people with older phones who upgrade IOS, are forced to get a new one because your old one is so slow."
That's bulls**t!
6s and se are perfectly functional (not as fast as 7, but very close) with iOS 11.
8 is better than all of them at opening apps and... that's about it.
PS: 6s still runs laps around S7.

posted on Oct 13, 2017, 11:28 PM 0

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You can choose to believe whatever you want. What i stated was fact.
And I dont give 2 s**techie about how fast thebiaohome open apps. The iPhone 6 cant even take half decent pictures vs the S7.
If your only argument is roped, then stop arguing.
A Ferrari is faster than a Camry, but in traffic one is no better than the other.
Please come up with something better than th3 benchmark argument.
Speed doesn't matter to me. If I want a really fast phone, I would get a boring a Pixel.
I have an IPhone I know how fast it is and isnt.
Yet I use it car less than my Android. Speed dowsnt impress me.

posted on Oct 14, 2017, 10:34 PM 0

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I buy things for what they do, and not for what I believe they can do; that's why I got an iPhone and I'm amused by dumb f**ks that are saying this phones are bad, because they only have 326 ppi or because they only have 2-4 cores.
6s today, powered by the buggy iOS 11, is still doing phone stuff better than S7, powered by whatever version of Android you want; I agree Samsung is better at taking (overexposed) pictures (S7 might be better than iPhone 8) and other few non-smartphone related stuff (like heart rate monitor), but I (and I'm talking about myself here) want a phone (talk, im, text, travel abroad in EU where there a so many bands etc).
You must live in a small city, if you say that a Camry is the same as a Ferrari in traffic; in a big city, one uses the power of a car to switch lanes as fast as one can and Ferrari is getting you faster to the destination.
You might have an iPhone just like I have a Android: as a secondary device that you use once in a while.

posted on Oct 13, 2017, 1:31 PM 0

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Combination of Apple users awaiting the IPhone x and the fact that the iPhone 8 is not even an incremental update, more of a two step. They could of at least made it Amoled, bundled in a fast charger, make wireless charging fast and changed the design a bit more then just materials. Any other OEMs make that effort then why shouldn't Apple especially when you continually charge a premium. At least the iphone x looks like it is worth it

posted on Oct 13, 2017, 1:42 PM 0

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It pains PA to tell the truth.
The real truth is the reason no one wants the iPhone 8/8+, is because they used the same design 4 times in a row. And if you have a iPhone 6/6S/7 and their "plus" variants, the iPhone 8 brings nothing new to the table.
List of reasons why the iPhone 8 isn't selling, that PA won't admit to:
1 - Same design for 4 years in a row
2 - Higher price with no real physical change to the phone
3 - New phones support wireless charging. But with a price increase, Apple still doesn't include a fast capable charger; which means buyers have to spend an additional $60+ to buy a fast capable charger and proper cable and adapter.
4 - iOS 11 brings nothing new to iOS for the iPhone vs the iPad, and some changes in the UI actually makes doing simple steps be a longer process.
5 - PA has a Apple fan base ears to tickle.
6 - Many are waiting for the iPhone X. But not every iPhone owner is planning to buy the iPhone X.
7 - They all bought a Galaxy S8/8+. PA recent posted an article saying though S8 sales had started slow vs the S7, now they have picked up. This happen right after the iPhone 8/X announcement.
Even though Apple would have pre-order sold 10-15M phones, this time they aren't and all 15M of those peoples aren't waiting for the iPhone X.
The claim that the smartphone market has matured to me is BS. 7 billion people in the world, only 3B have a phone. There is a market of a billion people who can get a phone who simply don't.
No one is interested at least in the iPhone 8, which should have been called the 7S. And no one is in a hurry to spend $1000 on the iPhone X either. Apple is about to get a crude wake-up call.

posted on Oct 13, 2017, 2:18 PM 4

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Now I'm convinced you are techie, because your messages are just as stupid as his.
1. 911 has the same design for tens of years and this year it sold the millionth car.
4. You must not have used different iOS versions.
7. It's very hard for an apple client to buy a Samsung (and vice-versa).
Now, if Apple is going to have bad sales, that's because the market is fed up with its products (but don't make the mistake of last year, when you thought 7 isn't going to sell, because the market want the Jack - Apple showed you that iPhone buyers don't give a f**k about the Jack).

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