this makes NO sense, they are just about a perfect choice for the "rolling stone demographic" as much as, say, liars/swans are solid choices for the "quietus demographic" -- feeling like you are just out to disagree w/ me ;_;

Re: The Roots. I meant more that it's a terrible fucking record as is Black Keys - especially if it's being chosen because of a demographic. The same percentage of our readers hate Salem as people here do. What's the point of chosing a list by second guessing what your readers like?

I'm just traumatized because of the number of tranquilizers I took at ATP. My butt will be back to normal tomorrow.

Not to drag out another hoary old trope, but I often wonder how many people that hate the Roots really just hate the cult surrounding them. I mean, hate on some of the cring-worthy lyrics all you want, but these guys are astonishing musicians when they want to be.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with it at all but it's something that runs through most of my taste in music (admittedly with plenty of exceptions).

I guess I like the idea of a genre when it's still rough neck and like it less when it gets a make over for bars and expensive clubs etc. I felt the same way about jungle vs. intelligent drum and bass. I'm not really down with the Boomkat aesthetic with dance music for deep listening by the cognoscenti either. It's just a personal preference. In metal terms, it's what makes me like Slayer over Steve Vai or what have you.

See now I don't hear "bars and expensive clubs etc." at all in the Roots. Maybe its because they are the only famous hiphop band that they have that appearance? And cos they are a telly band? Something like Rising Down is dirty and noisy, much like that Waka was (in totally different ways obv).

yeah convos about the Roots like this always tend to get caught up more in their image and reputation than what their records actually sound like. that said, How I Got Over runs counter to what people expect of them less than any of their last few albums have.

I guess I like the idea of a genre when it's still rough neck and like it less when it gets a make over for bars and expensive clubs etc. I felt the same way about jungle vs. intelligent drum and bass. I'm not really down with the Boomkat aesthetic with dance music for deep listening by the cognoscenti either. It's just a personal preference. In metal terms, it's what makes me like Slayer over Steve Vai or what have you.

I guess I like the idea of a genre when it's still rough neck and like it less when it gets a make over for bars and expensive clubs etc. I felt the same way about jungle vs. intelligent drum and bass. I'm not really down with the Boomkat aesthetic with dance music for deep listening by the cognoscenti either. It's just a personal preference. In metal terms, it's what makes me like Slayer over Steve Vai or what have you.