Andrew McCarthy has an excellent must-read review of how the Susan Rice email paints a clear picture of James Comey’s instructions -from President Obama- to obfuscate the intent of the FBI counterintelligence operation during the early days of the Trump administration.

Andrew McCarthy – On her way out the White House door and out of her job as national-security adviser, Susan Rice writes an email-to-self. Except it’s not really an email-to-self. It is quite consciously an email for the record.

Her term having ended 15 minutes before, Rice was technically back in private life, where private people have private email accounts — even notepads if they want to scratch out a reminder the old-fashioned way. Yet, for at least a few more minutes, Rice still had access to her government email account. She could still generate an official record. That’s what she wanted her brief email to be: the dispositive memorialization of a meeting she was worried about — a meeting that had happened over two weeks earlier, at which, of course, President Obama insisted that everything be done “by the book.” (continue reading)

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You can tell a lot about a person’s principles when it comes to clicks (money). Andrew McCarthy is trying to make money off President Trump. I resent him and do not value his perspective. I think he splits hairs to make a buck. The only legal opinion that matters is the one out of the White House.

She’s come around. Not sure if it’s bc of Trump or her new husband. It’s not bc she’s on Fox – they are not really pro Trump. Listen to Gavin McInness’ video about how behind the scenes they were predominantly pro Hillary and the place was like a morgue 11/9.

Both Guy Benson and Katie Pavlich at Townhall have been slow on the uptake for conservatives. That said, the more converts the better. The fact that they still may detest PDJT only goes to make their public mea cupla sweeter.

The fact that he isn’t a die hard trump supporter and yet still consistently puts out some of the most well-researched and convincing articles about the farce that is the Trump-Russia investigation should be welcomed in my opinion.

His articles are definitely informative. But he does have some strong confirmation bias in favor of institutions he dedicated a great part of his life to serving, along with some its more notable figures. He is practically bi-polar when he talks about Mueller. In the span of two days he will defend Mueller’s integrity, and then talk about what a scumbag Mueller’s pal Andrew Weissman is, and how horrible it was that they used the shock and awe tactics during the Manafort raid. So is he still a paragon of integrity? Or is he the dirty cop in LA Confidential? Even in this article, he talks about how the FBI genuinely believed the information in the dossier. Everything I have read here and elsewhere leads to the inescapable conclusion that not only did the FBI know the dossier was made up, the FBI may have helped author it, and was complicit in laundering the lies through the DNC, Perkins Coie, Fusion, Christopher Steele and back again. Then they used a Yahoo story based on the dossier to corroborate the dossier. The FBI wasn’t duped by the dossier, it co-authored the thing, by all credible accounts. McCarthy seems emotionally incapable of seeing that.

I think he must, and uses a thesaurus to make sure the “little people” have to refer to it to understand what he means while wasting those words on his nonsense. Perhaps Sundance put this out so people would see the “must read” aspect of his bovine scat defense of the cretins from the feral bureau of insolence and department of injustice at the time as “true believers that Trump was part of a vast ruskie conspiracy”. Bull Sh!t.

They are all just as dirty as the scumbags bath house bari and krooked killery klinton.

And mccarthy ain’t that kind of McCarthy by any stretch… not from what I read of his repetitive and manipulative writings.

The globalist puppetry has been in FULL FORCE since day one of the Trump Presidency trying to recreate a credibility that has never existed for millions of “woke” Americans. We know what they do… in spite of us as well as to us.

After I read Mccarthy, I need a healthy dose of Joe DiGennova. I think they both have good points but I like how well-sourced Joe seems to be and confident he is in his sources. He also seems to see straight thru to the ire of those (good guys) in the justice system who feel COMPLETELY betrayed by what has happened here. I know the wheels turn slowly but by God this needs to come to swift resolution and say that with every single part of me and I know others within the system feel the same way – else WHAT THE HELL are we doing fighting this fight every day? Mc Cathy helps me step calmly back away from the edge of that anger and apply some reason. It ain’t quite good but each can play their part. Just let’s get this damn thing over with, one way or the other.

Not one way or the other, Jim, it can only be one way. (Think Highlander)

We have to get this right. Over? Yes! Done? Yes! But only the one way that ensures all the cockroaches are trapped and vaporized by the Light of Truth, the Fire of Righteous Indignation, and the Fury of every Red-Blooded American Well Woken and enraged at those who would deny Our Children their Birthright of Freedom!

It sucks. It’s a slog. Our Zippis weigh heavy in our hands and are itching to burn the witches and warlocks out of our Republic. Their damnable house WILL burn.

Just not yet.

When? Follow Trump. He’ll let us know. His way is that one way, that crazy slog through snowfields and over ice clogged rivers and mountains, but he knows the way.

Remember how much failure and setbacks and disappointments George Washington faced and endured before he won our Freedom? Think of those who followed him, fought with him, risked all to support the birth of the most remarkable Nation on this Earth.

They never lost hope, nor gave in to discouragement. Nor must we. The Aliknskyite Marxists are counting on the complexity and perversity of their plots to weary our souls and depress our minds.

We cannot give in. We must not discourage one another. We must not give the bastatds the satisfaction of seeing us lose our faith in our future of Freedom.

It is WE who must lay seige to the battlements of the wicked and tear down their towers. We shall be victorious. It is THEY who must be made to d

It is THEY who must be made to despair, to tremble in fear and watch their scheming and violence and threats come to naught. They are already there, Brothers and Sisters. They are in far greater misery than they let on. Their flailing Moonbattery proves it.

One way. Trump’s way. America’s Second Revolutionary War will be won. Prepare yourselves in every way you are able, and then some. Prepare your families. Struggle in prayer. Do not let them catch us unawares, unprepared to preserve what they threaten.

Let not your spirits flag, Dear Treepers. This cohort, this little band, will prevail. Sundance has taught us well.

You speak the truth, Marquis. Part of my purpose in life is being a fully engaged prayer Warrior in this battle to keep our country free. We must stay strong and persevere through the bigger battles yet to come. The battle yet to come will be on the same scale as the Battle at Trenton 242 year ago. Just like then we are depending on Divine Providence.

Indeed we are, Mouse. Providence spoke loudly on 7 November 2016, and follow the faithful shall.

God Bless you for your faithfulness and willingness to contend on your knees for the freedom of our land. That is a powerful and vital tool available to all of us, if we will but humble ourselves and soften our hearts.

An example of that confirmation bias towards the institutions he, McCarthy, protects is this statement: ” If they had not believed those allegations were credible, they would not have put them in a warrant application to the FISA Court. ”
It is now well understood that the Black Hats did indeed put unverified info in those applications, yet at this late date, McCarthy still wants to hang on to the idea, despite all evidence to the contrary, that the integrity of the FISA warrant application was beyond reproach. Additionally, the quaint notion that the FBI believed in the veracity of the Dossier is inexcusable for someone of McCarthy’s background.

Exactly the phrase I was thinking of when I wrote my comment – I was too lazy to go back and quote it. I have seen mothers on the playground watch their kid clock someone and then say it didn’t happen. The strong Denial emotion McCarthy has toward the DOJ/FBI reminds me of that my kid can do no wrong phenomenon.

The article has much value. That the miscreants’ “suspicions” were false and their intents far more malevolent than McCarthy is willing to yet acknowledge is grating, and seems disingenuous, but little doses of truth only whey the appetite for more, and those in his orbit and beyond are slowly awakening to the reality of profound crimminality and Sedition and Treason.

It’s like Freedom. Gorbachev thought giving the people a little freedim, just a taste, his “Glasnost,” would pacify them, but it only fueled the demand for more, for all of it. This is why China so fears permitting too much liberty to their people.

Just the same, those tasting a little of the truth, those regarding McCarthy as the vouce of reason, are going to thirst for something more substantial, like, hummm, The Conservative Treehouse!

Even if McCarthy was trying to whitewash this Coup Conspiracy, inoculate his readers against the “crazy” Wokens, it won’t work out that way.

I saw it the same way, katiejane2. The article explained why Comey did not publicly exonerate PDJT when PDJT asked him to say publicly what he was telling PDJT in private…that was something I always wondered about…and this article provides a plausible explanation.

Yes, we can’t make a great country out of the tiny number of people who agree with us on everything. We can make a little county with some scattered talents. No more than that. Love overlooks a few things.

Yes Alex, I agree with you that McCarthy does state the obvious. However, I compare him to Gregg Jarrett and therein lies the difference. The law is opinion based. McCarthy is vague. What has been launched against President Trump is not, I repeat not, subjective. It is portrayed that way by ‘system’ zealots and pundits that have labored long and hard to make a buck off what is obviously a no-brainer.

President Trump was spied on. Illegally. By the Democrats and their henchmen and henchwomen.

Spied on was only the beginning. They sought to entrap him, frame him, compromise his family, and expanded this criminal enterprise to many many people, sharing personal and strategic information and working hand in glove with tbe Despot’s chosen Successor.

Nothing in American History comes close to the level of unAmerican treachery and gross immorality we are witnessing.

The crimes go way beyond the spying. The American Experiment was weaponized against it’s greatest champion, by the dregs of the Soviet Menace that lingers still in our fair land. Also by the murderous bloodthirsty adherents of Mohammed that have foolishly been allowed to settle our Country and our government.

I hope every blow struck and lie uttered is revealed and recompensed many fold.

I spent many months assuring people that nothing like this could ever happen — that the FBI and Justice Department would not countenance the provision to the FISA court of uncorroborated allegations of heinous misconduct. When Trump enthusiasts accused them of rigging the process, I countered that they probably had not even used the Steele dossier. If the Justice Department had used it in writing a FISA warrant application, I insisted that the FBI would independently verify any important facts presented to the court, make any disclosures that ought in fairness be made so the judge could evaluate the credibility of the sources, and compellingly demonstrate probable cause before alleging that an American was a foreign agent.

I admire McCarthy for being man enough to admit he was wrong. The problem is that in today’s article (the one Sundance links to), he starts backsliding to his former position, which is basically to see-no-evil when it comes to his old friends in the DOJ.

He assumes that the DOJ personnel had a good-faith basis for believing that Trump was either conspiring with Russian agents or was subject to being blackmailed by them, which is facially absurd and backed up by not one scintilla of evidence after two years of legal and illegal spying on Trump and his campaign team. He admits that Trump, not Page, was the real target, but forgets that in a Title-1 Application the government is representing to the court that the target (in this case Page) is both a foreign agent and engaged in crimes such as espionage or terrorism, which is absolutely untrue – and they knew it was untrue.

McCarthy still cannot bear to admit that the upper echelon of the DOJ is as dirty as they come, corrupted by progressive politics. They perpetrated a fraud upon the FISA court by pretending that Carter Page – a man they knew to be innocent – was a Russian agent, and by suppressing material facts such as Steele’s bias, unreliability, and the fact that the dossier was financed by the Democratic Party.

McCarthy was right about what Rice was trying to do – up to a point. But he cannot face that what was actually going on was that the DOJ was trying to secretly investigate Trump and if possible take him down – after he was inaugurated as President – and on phony charges. Morally, this is treason, but don’t ask McCarthy to connect the dots.

And yet, after writing those words several days ago, McCarthy wrote this newest article continuing to countenance or at least provide pollyannaish rationales for some of the DOJ’s illegal actions. Methinks the man doth protest too much.

Now that the rats are scurrying away from the light, McCarthy has decided to make amends. That reminds me of those Blacks Hats that Sundance surmises have turned. As one of them, Lisa Page, famously said, ™It is a real profile in courage.”

It pisses me off more now that, rather than taking a stand against wrongdoing, he is situating himself somewhere in the middle still willing to cover for bad actors who are tainting the very institutions and practices he claims to revere. I can’t help but think he hopes against hope that it is not as bad as we all know it to be.

Reading article is little like Burt Lancaster/Kirk Douglas “7 Days in May” Movie where a “right wing” military coup was set up based on lying /deceiving President Frederic March. Here in real life we see that instead of military , it was political leftist operatives (the real life fascists) in law enforcement, justice etc who were promoting a coup based on lying and deceiving the duly elected President. If this does not see prosecutions , there is no real confidence that they won’t succeed the next time

EXACTLY!
If it were to be done in a lawful manner then that is what would have been stated. By the book infers there is a book being referenced. I want to ask Did Obama use AIR QUOTES when he said “by the book”?

“By the book” in
“An email written on January 21 to record decisions made on January 5 is not written to memorialize what was decided. It is written to revise the memory of what was decided in order to rationalize what was then done.”—–McCarthy

CND, I took the statement of “by the book” meaning the book of lies, cheating, and continuous of the attempt to overthrow America but all on the Q T. Obama was a paid puppet as well as an alien in our WH to do the job he was paid (millions obviously) to do what those who owned him wanted him to do and “by the book” meant continue to do whatever we can to kick out Trump and overthrow America’s government. And his cohort did just that by looking for ways and mean to kick our President out of the WH and take over America.

While its an OK pun on the book title “The Banality of Evil” by Bernard J. Bergen which in turn is dissecting Hannah Arendt’s book, “Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil” what is not funny at all are the striking parallels in the distorted rationalizations that we have been exposed to in the public record (so far) of the principle actors in what is fast becoming a national tragedy of Shakespearean scope. Many respected commentators have echoed each other stating “You just cannot make this stuff up,” and “It is simply beyond anything Le Carre could write.” Arendt was severely criticized for not perceiving the manifest monolithic evil in Eichmann that the rest of the world did, and instead saw something she perceived as strikingly more threatening. A vain, petty, and markedly ordinary man thrust into a position of extraordinary consequence he was not intellectually or morally capable of comprehending. Hence the efficiency with which he “did his job” and “was just following orders.” Some men go north, some go south. I recommend Bergen’s book in the vein of “Those that forget the past…” and as a cautionary monologue on the bullet that America just barely dodged. For lighter fare, try Chekov’s “Sergeant Prishibeyev (careful the Dems don’t catch you reading something Russian) and du Maupassant’s “Clothes Make the Man” for two sides of the same coin.

I don’t think the cabal believed the Russian crap. What they do is project their own dark souls onto everyone else. They know they are dirty and think everyone else is too. They used and are using the Russian crap to try and find anything and in their minds you don’t get to seventy and rich without dirt in the background. They can’t believe there isn’t anything there.
That meeting was sedition.

Well said ladyp. How does one believe something they made up out of thin air? If one knows it is made up and a pack of paid for lies, how can you believe you are “saving the country” from something that you made up and created yourself? Guess they think the citizens of this country are really a bunch of dumb, blind and gullible idiots, to stupid to think for themselves. Wait…that would be the Dems.

The “Get out of jail free” card was played on the 21st of January by the boldest liar in Obama’s group.
This is the woman that went on TV the first Sunday, after the murder of our Libyan ambassador and 3 additional American souls, and flat out lied to the entire country about how and why they died.

It will take a fearlessly loyal Patriot in the DOJ or FBI, to convince a Federal prosecutor that the first Black President in America, is a no good liar, and the Obama administration plotted this fabricated lie to de-legitimize a Democratic election of the President of our Republic and leader of the free world.

What if the redacted part said she advised Comey the right thing was to advise Trump of the full details behind the dossier. Her Big CYA was redacted because it goes to the heart of Comey’s malfeasance. The president gave him 3 chances to correct the omission. Trump knew full well he was the target of investigation and Comey lied to his face. He fully expected to be fired and have a Special Prosecuter appointed. Susan Rice wrote the email when she saw Comey choose to mislead Trump. It was her insurance because BO in now implicated. She offers herself as a small fish good guy caught in a bad deal. Keep in mind this email came to light only when the plan went bad.

Batman – The redacted part was what gave the email a Top Secret classification. That means the redacted content, by definition, would cause “exceptionally grave damage” to national security if revealed. The redaction codes in white text in the black area mean the top secret information dealt with Intelligence Operations (1.3) and Foreign Relations (1.4). Dig a little deeper, and what’s common to both codes is “SOURCES and Methods” (1.3) and “Confidential SOURCES” (1.4).
Remember there still is talk of British Intelligence spying on Trump and passing information to the US (probably through Brennan at CIA) where it eventually ended up in the hands of the FBI, who were trying to get a legitimate-looking FISA warrant to cover their asses.
I suspect the redacted part of the email deals with GCHQ (Brit. Intel.), the dossier and how to cover-up the foreign-sourced fake dirt on Trump. It plays in very well with the intelligence part of the email.

Sounds about right. It’s sick to consider what these incredibly blatant traitors had (some still do) access to, and to think about how many foreign entities know as much as they did about “national secrets” while we “poor ole dumb Americans” are never going to know anything pertaining to the globalist operations of our nation.

The Zippo gets flashed a lot, can’t wait till the flint is struck and the fire is started as it’s far past time for The Great American Reckoning.

The email was written AFTER TRUMP was inaugurated, which illustrates they did not believe he would take office, had they believed he would take office the note would have been written immediately, or if it had been written just after Rice believed Comey had acted inappropriately.
Waiting until 15 past noon on the 20th makes it blatantly obvious something did not go as planned.

I’ve heard the alternative is she picked this time because either (a) the memo wouldn’t get lost with the other papers of the Obama administration which are hidden away, or (b) as being formally out from under the Obama administration’s space for official retaliation.

Groomie. Wow.
You hit on something.
Your post takes me back to the moment when Trump is giving his Inauguration Speech. Remember the odd march down the stairs of Parade Dressed Military? They turn around and march back up the stairs? Let’s find the exact time of day and compare to the Rice email.

The military group stepped up behind POTUS at approx 2 mins 40 secs after swearing in. He was delivering his inaugural speech. They turned around and went away at approx 3 mins 30 secs after swearing in. So they were only there about a minute. Never read a story about why the missed cue.

As bad as letting illiary skate for the server was, as bad as spying on a candidate was, that January meeting was sedation. Treason. Obummer’s not really that big hands are all over it. Unlike watergate we don’t have to ask what did he know and when did he know it we now know when he planned it.

He is still defending his ‘good friend’ Jim Comey. He just won’t say what is obvious, Comey is what he says he wasn’t, a political weasel. Andy may end up going down with the ‘team’ as their cheerleader. He will question Obama, Rice, Trump but never Comey, Clapper, Brennan etc. He is a ‘swamp thing’ that can’t repent. He knows what’s coming, he is only hoping that it doesn’t get ‘bad’. Actually, the more they push back, the worse it will be. We could be looking at a ‘stasi’ type situation where you can look up and see if you were spied on. Can’t wait to see Bernie’s name in there. Obama spied on him I’m sure.

So why would Mr McCarthy write articles like this if he’s defending the swamp? Why not just go work for CNN? Let’s think more on this. There are a lot of personal assumptions going on about McCarthy. Stick with what he writes. He’s has a good record as an attorney (not perfect and neither are any of us) but very good. Does any one think he lacks contacts at DOJ that are giving him the truth? Hardly. Take his stuff at face value until you find one lie, one factual cover up. At this point He he’s been remarkable.

I’ll try to forget that the National Review fought us and our conservative candidate the entire election at least as much as did CNN–and that they all probably voted for Hillary. Oh well.

I will forget that the worst political player, the biggest monster in politics, is the one that pretends to be your friend and is secretly working for your enemy when you are not looking.

I will try to forget that NR has never been conservative. They just write in a way that tries to make everyone think they are conservative and then take they the liberal path on policy and globalism every time.

But I will do that. At least I will try, and when will I know I have done this? When a writer with the National Review actually proves themselves to me over time–a looooong time….

perhaps not a lie or cover up per se, but he does provide an “out” for the liberals to cling to: The paragraph near the end that starts…now you can believe…Obama was targeting Trump politically OR you can believe that Obama was altruistically motivated because he thought Trump was truly colluding with the Russians…REALLY? then near the very end he says that it’s been 2 years and no proof of collusion–so why even mention that whole “altruistically motivated” BS? he lays out the case and then slips in the slime…

Great review, Craig! May I very respectfully disagree with the take on the article by McCarthy? I frankly find it astounding that folks put so much faith in McCarthy. As regulars here in the Treehouse, we’ve seen all the “info” stenographed by McCarthy originally reported by Sundance. There is NOTHING new here.

Now, I do understand the importance of getting this info “out there” into the MSM & broader population’s bloodstream, but I, for one, have long standing issues with McCarthy.

Frankly, I don’t trust his motives that much. As a BFF of Limbaugh (therefore of the Bushes) I stand at a distance from this guy trying to evaluate where he really, truly is.

I used to read McCarthy weekly (10-12 years ago) but ive been enlightened since.

McCarthy is doing nothing more in this article than giving Obama/comey/rice, etc their ‘plausible deniability’ by continuing to push the narrative that they actually believed that our Pres had either colluded or was compromised.

Expect this to be the narrative once the IG Report comes out – “but but but we believed there was collusion so we HAD to keep the investigation going (and hamstring the new Admin for nearly half its first term……)

Agree. He plays to the notion that the “FBI believed the dossier” – right there it goes against what we know about what the FBI did regarding the dossier’s creation. It also gives Obama, the patriot, an out.

That they “believed” holds no value in a courtroom. There must be proof. The FBI has somehow managed to establish “I read it in the news” as factual evidence. Aside from the fact that this fails just about every single requirement regarding evidence, the problem is that they are the ones that leaked the information so that it could then be used as factual evidence! It’s another circle of nothingness only this one is a circle of treason. The FBI has played the FISA court judges and they look like fools. Hey SCCJ Roberts! What are you going to do about this?

No kidding last, and I found myself really getting very pissed off while I read it. He essentially gives them all a pass and free get out of jail card by saying “they really believed it. WTH??? Is McCarthy delusional? We know he is a establishment placeholder, but come on Andrew, why can’t you just admit it was a deep state coup?

That may be an effective narrative for the first 90 days of the initial application….unfortunately, this narrative does not stand-up to the test of time. The extensions is what buries the ‘plausible deniability’. “Whoopsie” gets repetitive by the 4th time. Not going to pass the stink test.

Better have a Plan B Swamp creatures.

Another reason why low-energy JEB! isn’t POTUS is the absence of a viable Plan B, leopards don’t change their spots. We should acknowledge that we dodged two bullets when we elected President Trump, Crooked Hillary and Low-Energy JEB!. Dumb and Dumber.

McCarthy may have just given the lamestream their straw-man defense for the first weeks after the IG report.

They will all pick up on the “true believer” angle. However, since it has no legal validity, it is merely a “binky” with which the entire left will console themselves as the trap springs. They need something beyond the hot chocolate and pjs.

I’m with you too redlegleader. Not only did I find McCarthy’s material rather stale, but it has, IMHO, little to no value as rationalization for the evidently highly illegal actions of obama and his stooges.

We keep being pushed from the MAIN POINT: Special Counsel Must End! There is no basis to keep the Coup plotters around…they took down RNC Chair Wynn and now they are trying to overcome non disclosure agreements through the power of the supeona…they are looking for everything and anything! END THE WITCHHUNT NOW!

It’s not going to happen. The press is going to shove this at the public with the full strength of their stench.
“We must make sure a President was not compromised by an enemy to America”
This is the plan to take out our President,
“The Mueller investigation will continue until we can lie our way to impeaching Trump.”

“They” would need Donald J. Trump to be complicit in such a scheme as is or would be normal to take a President down by false and globalist methods.

I think you seriously “misunderestimate” Trump. He’s known for decades how rotten the entire system is, and has trolled them into a corner. I get your opinion, I do… it was anyone but him, I would likely be ringing that bell with you. But… it isn’t.

If have all the confidence in President Trump’s abilities. He is the best President I have ever voted for and Nixon was my first.
Without a video of Obama saying we are going to take out Trump because He will ruin my legacy?
He will walk.
The President cannot take circumstantial evidence to arrest our first Black President for treason, which is exactly what Obama is STILL doing.
The media needed a cause to drive their narrative.
Susan Rice gave that to them with that BS E-mail.
Trump won a rigged election.
Now he has to clean out a rigged FBI and DOJ. I think that could be done.
But we will paying retirement benefits to traitors to our country.

In closing,
I believe that President Trump can keep from getting impeached for an out-rite lie.
We could have up to 50 or 100 unelected federal civil servant employees, a past President and a Presidential candidate who are trying to reverse the election of a US President. That is treason.
If they walk it will never change.
It is all about us, the voter. If we can convince 3 million people that they are promoting the over throw of our government. Then I could care less what happens to these criminals.
They can all go live in San Fransisco and live with their map of public piles of feces..

You believe that Trump lied, yet is the best President you ever voted for? Or is the “out-rite lie” in reference to media lies, like the rigged election?

We in actuality probably have up to myriad persons trying to get rid of a President that would get rid of them in a slow and steady process of elimination, because they are evil and anti-American fascists. That includes “top ranking” “officials” tons of burrowcrats, and 99.9% of media. Even some alleged “conservative” media.

Yes, it is treason, and precisely what you said is the reason those of utmost important cannot be allowed to “walk”. They must pay for their crimes against Donald J. Trump, now President of the United States, as they must also pay for their numerous crimes against We The People, myself included. They didn’t empty President Trump’s bank accounts like they did mine… without any due process and without cause.

That said, I find your comment about not caring less what happens to these traitors to be comparable to the guy who says as long as he has his boat in the driveway and beer and beans on the table he doesn’t care what “they” do. That’s apathy and a self inflicted abrogation of your personal responsibility to your own freedom and liberty, not to mention that of all of our progeny’s future.

WE have before us a “big $&%^ing deal” as plugs biden would say, and I urge you to snap the $&%^ out of it and get busy helping instead of trying to convince others of the same negative outlook you have adopted as resolute fact. Unless you are an accomplished psychic, of which I do not believe, then you certainly have no insight on the future. But you could end up having an impact.

Your free to comment in the negative fashion as often as you like, but it’s counter-productive and mostly going ignored otherwise. I just stopped in to see if you had the stones to get into another mode of operation. No one ever helped accomplish anything when they didn’t help having given up any belief that the outcome could actually be <positive for a change… and with many more than 3 million knowing the truth of it all.

In the event that you’re right and nothing does come of it with the likes of bath house bari boi and krooked killery et al walking scot free from now on, then the Natural Rights of free human beings best be exercised as they are no good as simple common thoughts. In a world filled with evil @$$holes seeking to create third world sh!tholes of our nation the battle is constant, and the reason for the 2nd Amendment. It ain’t going to use itself.

I kept re-reading the part of Comey’s testimony where he admits one leadership advisor was against not telling Trump that he was being surveilled. That Trump’s campaign would inevitably fall within the scope of the investigation. Was this person Admiral Mike Rogers? He did personally warn him in Trump Tower, and all of the little tête-à-têtes after the official meeting seems to exclude him. Then Comey went on to lie to him and state that Trump was not under investigation- when obviously he was. If they had really thought that Page were a Russian agent, they would have had a duty to warn him. Did Rice write this email because maybe there was an inkling Mike Rogers would tell others what was really discussed at the meeting?

At some point, per McCarthy’s article, it sounds like Rogers was no longer in on the meeting. There was a main meeting, and then Comey and Yates were asked to stay behind along with Obama, Rice and Biden. So Rogers wouldn’t have heard everything. By that point, they would also have been keeping him out of the loop on matter discussions since they knew about his visit to Trump Towers.

In fact, the selectivity of who remained behind for further talking gives a big clue to the hatched plan continuing…

All good questions. I think she had no way to know Adm Rogers would spill the beans to the POTUS. Yes, had a duty but even today Carter Page has not been charged with a crime, yet the surveillence was done! Regarding Lynch, very shallow and transparent “CYA” self-email. I have less respect for her intellect and abilities now than my low expectations while she served as the AG. Still, I always though much more highly of AG Lynch than of Eric Holder.

McCarthy writes an excellent article, but one question that arises – there isn’t any way one can believe that Obama et al were doing the investigating and spying because of patriotism. That is, believing that Donald Trump had been compromised by the Russians and therefore could be blackmailed. Yes, this appears to be the route they’d take in a court of law in their defense, and maybe get away with it, but we’d all know they were lying. The knew the dossier was a nothingburger, and had suspect origins, but kept going, and they’ll say, “for the well-being of the nation.”

Now the to get them on this, we have to find the collusion between the Executive Branch (Obama,Comey, Lynch, Yates et al) and the DNC/Hillary Clinton. Heck we could leave out Hillary and just go for where they planned this together. IMO, this is the core of the conspiracy to interfere with the 2016 election, interfering with President-elect Trump, and then President Trump.

One other observation. President Trump would have known the full dossier once Buzzfeed publication came out just a few days after his briefing by Comey – why didn’t he fire Comey sooner?

But to get the previous administrations’ DOJ, FBI, and likely State Dept, we have to expose where they colluded with the DNC/Media/Hillary. Otherwise, they can plead patriotism as their reason for their elaborate deceptions. So was Susan Rice’s letter to herself a red herring, knowing it would be revealed and thus establish a way for Obama and friends to get off the hook – in the interests of “national security”?

Hear Hear… and in this case obviously there was no patriotism of any kind but quite the opposite. The “affirmative action” regime doing all it could to rewrite and complete the decades long agenda of engineering a society without “whitey” having status at all.

Oh, I agree. Was just pointing out how McCarthy was sliding that phrasing in there. The ignorant people won’t know the difference and will believe “patriotism” allowed Obama and his minions’ behavior. People have no idea about the difference between the Law and public opinion – the two having become synonymous.

Someone up above pointed out that “believed” doesn’t stand up as evidence in a court of law. What we have to do is get this into court. Indictments.

I’m not sure that he is… I have a great respect for Sundance but still wonder why he would even link the guy as I came away from his verbose article peppered with unnecessary obscure “big words” possibly inserted for his fellow never Trumpers amusement and was definitely in support of those alphabet agencies that have definitely abused the rights of We The People over and over again.

I felt the need for a shower after reading it as it reminded me too often of one james comey and his insistence that “all is well” within a “rock solid” fbi- because I say so crap. I feel the stage being set up for failure in it.

That said, I also get the same sea sickness as I feel the set up being worked to give the illusion of “republican purity” by so many people in the blathering head business having been burned over and over again. It this respect I am much like dbobway a few posts up…
The erosion of and abuse of rights will continue ever stronger if this whole thing isn’t played out correctly. I’m trusting Trump to handle it as need be, having watched him share the same opinions of “government” that I share over the years.

It’s treason what they did to our elected President. Withheld national security intel from a President elect just so they could continue their lies and deceit, plus all the other foreign and domestic security issues, along with all the evil and weather related issues he’s had to deal with in a year. Stay strong Mr. President! ❤️

Bingo! I wonder if something about that meeting didn’t actually scare Rice. She wrote the email to cover for anything she did from the 5th to inauguration, in regards to withholding info from President-elect, in order to show that everything she did was on orders from the President.

Obama telling the people he knew would still hold their positions after Trump is inaugurated, Yates and Comey, to withhold info from him, is just what you said it was. Its treason.

Many others have noted that the article was written from the perspect that McCarthy accepts that the FBI believed the gist of the dossier.

What I would like McCarthy to do is to analyze the situation from the presumption that the dossier was true (minus the pee story).

My reaction is …. so fricking what? So what if Page and/or Manafort had been dirty dealing? That didn’t reflect on Trump or provide Russians with any kompromat. Trump had already gotten ridden of them months prior … he never felt compromised by employees that he did not measure up.

If one analyzes it from that most generous presumption, then all of the tortured Deep State excuses for snooping on Trump still remain invalid.

Yes, I noted that he gives the FBI a pass on their belief, but all the while I’m thinking they all cooked this up together – Obama, his executive branch, his administrative staff, the DNC and Hillary Clinton’s campaign. If we could find the thread that unravels that cloth we can prove the criminality of what they did.

I’m not as sympathetic to McCarthy’s premise of the FBI’s belief in the dossier – I bet the FBI was in on the creation of the document to beginning. That’s the part where it’s difficult to get people, even people like McCarthy, to see what a catastrophic (to the nation and the rule of law) dasdardly deed this was. It was a conspiracy – RICO included – to interfere with our entire electoral process, the peaceful transfer of power, and the Rule of Law.

I am not sympathetic either to that premise. Bruce Ohr was the DOJ avenue to bring the BS dossier into the government. It was written by his wife, Nellie, along with the help of a slimeball spook – Steele, DNC/HRC bought and paid for ex-Wall Street Journal reporters (FGPS) and supposedly Russian kompromat (I guess the FBI believes everything Russians tell them these days). Comey, McCabe, Strojk, Page, Priestap et al all knew the origins of the document and that it was all fake and used it to get warrants to spy. It was a conspiricy that seems to have reached all the way to the top – now inclusive of jugears and Uncle Joe.

Sorry Andrew – I don’t buy the patriotic “out” you are giving your cherished law enforcement agencies. They are complicit in sedition/treason and no amount of patriotic free passes are going to pass the smell test. I also don’t believe the “rank and file” are all patriots garbage either. Some may be – but there are more than a small number who knew what was going on and either approved or kept it to themselves instead of doing the real patriotic thing and outting the criminals a la General Rogers.

Then we bring in the FISA courts and they small very rank also.

Sorry – I see opportunities for a full RICO and very little patriotism in this mess. Nice try though.

I remember when VSGPT was tweeting and going on news programs saying that Comey had assured him he wasn’t under investigation. Last summer, Comey testified to Congress that he wasn’t investigating Trump.

I realized today that VSGPT was setting a trap with that “Comey said he wasn’t investigating me” line. If Comey agrees that he wasn’t investigating the president, then he’s trapped because there is proof that he did. If Comey says that the president was being investigated, then he’s trapped because the methods he used to get information on President Trump will be exposed.

I wonder how many other little traps the president set to trap Comey and others into lying outright knowing that in trying to ‘undo’ the first lie, they will entangle themselves with many more.

This is so fascinating. Instead of ‘The Apprentice” it’s ‘Apprehend Us’.

Ever since Crooked Hillary lost to Ozero44 in 2008, a plan was concocted in many ways, which would require patience and the passage of time. After all, the Crooked One thought and was convinced the country owed her the honor of having her become the first female president.

Secretary of State was not the prize she hoped for. She wanted to occupy the OO. Ozero44 must have persuaded her to go along with the SoS deal and must have given her some juicy, petit morsels to tie her over, in that she would be instrumental in wrecking the entire ME along side Ozero44.

That must have made her feel awesome. Forever her name would be linked to chaos, misery, terrorism and war, all things the Cabal loves, because they would then have a perfect excuse to move in with their solutions of more government, more wealth redistribution (large sums of which would fatten their off-shore accounts for sure!), more terrorism, nukes, the revving up of the military complex and more, at the expense of people’s lives and livelihood, with the aim of shoring up the Iranian crazies and installing the Muslin Brotherhood elsewhere.

Once that complete, Ozero44 must have told her that her time was just around the corner and that having been SoS would give her resume gravitas in the eyes of the sheep/deranged/manipulated supporters who would most definitely, for sure, chose her as opposed to any other candidate running against her in the primaries.

In addition to that, let us not forget, that under the inept Party leadership of Ozero44 the DNC was going through some very dire financial difficulties, and the Crooked One came in like a goddess and picked up their debts/liabilities in exchange for rigging the primaries and making the super delegates vote for her even if the voters voted for her opponents. Pretty soon, two of the three guys running against her saw no path and dropped out.

But crazy Bernie had caught the imagination of the millennials and generated traction, a thing she would have loved to have gotten. But alas! in the midst of fits of coughing, wobbly knees, part-time campaigning and empty dribble, traction was not to be had!

No matter! She had a plan. She invested in a “dossier” replete with lies and made up stuff and as soon as POTUS Trump cleared all his opponents in the primaries and had his GOP convention a whole month ahead of her, she shifted into higher gear. All would materialize after she dispatched the old man Bernie with his dreams of communism, a task by the way that took the supposedly persuasion of Ozero44 when he summoned the communist and asked him to step aside and endorse her. Anyway, things were moving along.

The MSM had given her almost impossible to beat odds at winning the prize, and the general elections were, well, just a formality, because as far as they were concerned she had won! And of course, this exceptional high level of confidence was due to many things they had put in place with the help of their minions. Voter fraud. Ozero44 going on TV and saying that illegals could vote, and all the rest. Never mind the fact that she couldn’t even fill a black church in Pennsylvania (if I’m not mistaken), and venues where her organizers expected record crowds were downsized due poor attendance, and thus, she went on to demonstrate that she couldn’t fill most arenas where she held rallies. Coughing and appearing tired, pretending she was the perfect picture of health, even while being thrown into her black van by her SS , knees a wobbling, she went on.

All was set; the segments of government that could be corrupted for her victory were for sure in full engagement and most willing to cooperate.

The MSM continued to put out poll after poll where she beat candidate Trump handily and probably counting on the help of the factions that hated candidate Trump, she thought for sure the OO was hers.

No way Trump would win votes in the Rust Belt. Those were her votes, she convinced herself.
Election night came and fireworks show canceled, she nevertheless had planned for her victory rally; she appeared to have some hope. And then the numbers started coming in. Sure! Let the orange uncouth commoner have the votes from the states where his deplorables lived. She would garner the big votes. The big states. And on that she banked!
Convinced she was, and then the results. Trump won!

Disaster!

Now the task was how to explain her loss to her supporters who were suicidal, crying their eyes out.

But something would have to be done with all the illegal stuff they had engaged in not only in getting fraudulent votes for her, but most importantly, about the stuff people in the in-coming administration would find. With her minions still in place, the “insurance policy” was a way forward. All efforts had to be made to find ways to tie PE Trump to the Russians, and counter intelligence investigation deployed, they went looking for ways to give teeth to their excuse for her loss.

Ozero44 was not counting on her losing. He had gotten involved way too much as well as put an entire team of corrupt high officials on illegal grounds on her behalf and with her knowledge and blessing. Some may have thought that if they continued something was bound to be found and then PE Trump would be impeached.

But Admiral Rogers happened!

All went downhill. All went the wrong way. A thing Susan Rice’s self-email evidences for us.

I like reading McCarthy’s articles. He worked closely with the FBI when he was a State’s Attorney. Before about October, he simply would not believe that they could be corrupt and working against Trump. I watched him evolve. He now understands the FBI and DoJ are corrupt. He definitely believes the FISA warrant was not justified and that they misled the FISC.

This article, in my opinion, is 3 steps back. There is much that he knows but left out. At this point, why would anyone give Obama and his crew the benefit of the doubt? Why would anyone believe the Clinton dossier accusations when they know it is a campaign document? Comey’s FBI KNEW it was a campaign document. They knew it! They were paying Steele! Therefore how could they seriously believe it? Obviously, they didn’t.

He knows the FBI and DoJ worked to get Hillary out of being prosecuted for the classified emails. If they’d do that, why would he not believe they’d go further and go after Trump? He knows this stuff. I’ve been reading his articles. I think his reasoning in this article, as I have stated, is a major step back.

“Trump’s Very Limited Briefing on the Dossier
We’ve heard the story a million times: After President-elect Trump was briefed by agency leaders on the intelligence community’s Russia report, Comey met privately with Trump to brief him on the Steele dossier.
But is that what happened? I don’t think so. I believe Trump was briefed only on a sliver of the dossier.”—-McCarthy
McCarthy understands the FBI is corrupt, now…

In that article, he’s justifying the DoJ/FBI not telling Trump all of the truth because he thinks the DoJ/FBI actually believed the dossier is true. Since they believe it’s true, well of course they should withhold the rest of it because Trump might be a Putin stooge. By that logic, all of the corruption would be justified. It’d be justified to get a phony FISA warrant if you actually believed the dossier to be true because, oh my gosh, a traitor is going to be President.

But at this point, with all the evidence, no reasonable person would think they actually believed it to be true. It’s Clinton/DNC paid for. It’s got the same investigators that let her off the classified email ‘matter’. We’ve got the texts about the insurance policy and so on. Unless I misread the article, he’s stepped backwards to actually believe the Rice email was written truthfully to cover an honest Obama discussion because they believed the dossier and Trump to be guilty. I don’t think he’s saying it’s corrupt, I think he’s saying they should have withheld part of it.

No, you didn’t miss the point. Your comment is one of the best ones regarding McCarthy’s article. In particular, I like this:

“This article, in my opinion, is 3 steps back. There is much that he knows but left out. At this point, why would anyone give Obama and his crew the benefit of the doubt? Why would anyone believe the Clinton dossier accusations when they know it is a campaign document?”

Comey, if anyone, knew all about the dossier, the Steele connection, the Fusion payments, Ohr’s involvement in getting the info for it, etc. etc. Now I’m thinking it’s disingenuous of McCarthy to leave all that out, and go the route of giving Obama, Comey et al a pass because they were being “patriotic.”

I really like your noting the Clinton dossier accusations as a campaign document. That’s all it was, and it’s what they used to get the FISA warrant, AND their renewals.

Alright, somebody help me out.
1. A FISA Title 1 warrant was issued by the FISC to spy on Carter Page in October of 2016;
2. NSA Director Rogers visited Trump on 11/17/16;
3. We assume [I don’t believe this is definitive] that Rogers told Trump about the FISA 702 (17) irregularities he had reported to FISC and that he had banned any further 702 (17) enquiries;
4. Trump moved the transition team to New Jersey on 11/18/16;
5. James Comey, Michael Rogers, John Brennan, and James Clapper, directors respectively of the FBI, NSA, CIA, and Office of the Director of National Intelligence meet with Obama, Biden and Rice on 1/5/17 and that “…Yates and Comey, linger for ‘a brief follow-on conversation’ with the administration’s political leadership: Obama, Biden, and Rice.”
6. Comey then meets with Trump on 1/6/17
7. McCarthy persuasively argues that Comey was, what shall we say, less than fully informative when he spoke with Trump about the dossier and Russia investigation;
8. If McCarthy is correct, and I think he is, Comey must have known that Rogers did not tell Trump about the Title 1 warrant on Carter Page, or the conversation would have, presumably, gotten fairly heated and a whole lot more information would have been obtained by Trump.
9. Rogers must have known about the FISA Title 1 warrant when he visited Trump in November of 2016, but refused to inform Trump of same.
Is all of the above correct? If so, why would Trump trust anyone at any of these agencies?
If the above is not correct, if, say, Rogers did tell Trump about the Title 1 warrant in November of 2016, what kind of game is being played?

I believe that Rogers laid out everything to Trump. At that point, Trump needed some time to assess the entire situation and set a trap to take down 0bama’s cabal. Because Trump didn’t react to Comey or fire him sooner doesn’t mean anything. Trump likely knew more than Comey was telling him. And it doesn’t mean that Trump had any trust in any of these agencies that were filled with the traitorous 0bama holdovers. Trump needed time to get intel and evidence on the operation being run against him. He needed to get his people in place, and the Senate was blocking most of his appointees.

Yes, or that Comey give PDJT credit for. My guess is that he told our President about the nasty sliver of the dossier mainly for the enjoyment of watching his face, and also hoping that PDJT would in anger reveal something Comey could use against him. It was sheer provocation.

It didn’t work. There’s nothing to reveal and PDJT is far smarter, with far better self-control than any of the Swampers.

50 U.S.C. § 1861(b)(2)(C).
These call detail orders cannot last longer than 180 days. Additionally, in an application for call records “two hops” from target—call records from people in contact with the identified target—the government must base its request on “session-identifying information or a telephone calling card number identified by the specific selection term” used in its first request. In December of 2015, the FISC ruled that USA Freedom does not require the government to show that these “two hops” call records are relevant to an ongoing investigation.

FW, please add this to your timeline:
10/28/2016. Carter Page complaint to the OSCE in which he writes…”As a further related form of their retaliation, I have learned from a reliable source that a law firm close to the Clinton campaign has hired a London-based private investigator to investigate my trip to Russia.”…
Carter Page knew more before the election, than President-elect Trump was briefed on January 6, 2017https://www.scribd.com/document/371381223/Carter-Page-October-2016-letter

FW, please add an item to your timeline:
10/28/2016 Carter Page complaint to the OSCE in which he writes….”As a further related form of their retaliation, I have learned from a reliable source that a law firm close to the Clinton campaign has hired a London-based private investigator to investigate my trip to Russia.”…https://www.scribd.com/document/371381223/Carter-Page-October-2016-letter

Carter Page knew more about the dossier on 10/28/2016 than the President-elect was briefed on 01/06/2017.

Im feeling especially smart today given that it seems Sundance and Mcarthy agree with my assessment of the Rice email, which I posted yesterday! Namely, that the “by the book” paragraph wasn’t the most important part of the email, it was the “withholding info from the Trump admin” that was the real kicker.

Can anyone provide insight regarding Michael Cohen? His name was possibly used in a FISA app as traveling to Russia, it turned out to be a different Michael Cohen who happened to live at Trump tower. Now, he is in the (most likely fake) news again as the one who paid Stormy Daniels 130,000$, and by discussing the deal, freed her from the gag. Any thoughts?

It was the Trump attorney Michael Cohen who paid Stormy , “out of my own pocket” he said. Why did he talk and who did he talk to? One day last week I heard she signed an affidavit that she had never had a relationship with Trump. This week she is talking , because Cohen “broke their agreement”. The article I read didn’t say why Cohen talked but instead was focused on the fact that payment to Stormy was not listed on Trump’s required report of where campaign funds went, which is why Cohen says the payment came out of Cohen’s own pocket. This is going to be the next BIG ballywhoo…..do the American people want a president who cheats on his wife and spends $130K out of his campaign fund to hush her up?

Puts the transition in Stark accurate time, but didn’t really tell us anything we didn’t already know, and as he currently points out, Obama and co could have been true believers. It’s all come out now at least. Would be nice if Mueller could wrap his probe up soon

Do you believe the Page warrant allowed them to surveil the entire campaign retroactively? I can never seem to find a clear answer on that. The point of the McCarthy piece was that they lied to Trump about investigating him because they were Investigating him, which is not shocking. My concern has always been disproving Russiagate, which is hard because it’s trying to prove a negative. But I think the spying scandal could be useful to that, the only problem with it is the end result of whether Collusion is real or fake is necessary to determine if the spying was Warranted or not. It’s a difficult climb to show the surveillance was outrageous and for nefarious purposes without first disproving Collusion. This is why so much of the evidence can be claimed by both sides so often

There is no law against collusion. In fact Flynn talking to the Russians Trump said he expected him to do it and he would have told Flynn to do it if he hadn’t already. II’s good business to be friends with the enemy, says Sun Tzu and smart leaders.

Susan Rice generated this email not in the closing minutes of the Obama administration, but rather and likely consciously after Trump was inaugurated and thus during the opening moments of the Trump administration, after all the email in control of the Obama administration was on the way to sequester in the Obama library.

Trump was/is innocent of “collusion” and Obama/DOJ/FBI were using a FISA to try and find a crime that didn’t exist. Those evil people were using the power of their departments to find anything and make it fit. The FBI/CIA/DOJ are responsible for the cr*p inside the dossier along with Steele. All of the tactics used by the left over the past year from students rioting to removing confederate statues, is all a hallmark of their hatred of Trump. People with Conservative views spoke at universities under Obama’s watch and they didn’t riot. Confederate statues stood under Obama’s watch and no one complained. Their devious spite is like something from a horror movie, and if they could get away with killing Trump, they would!

I think McCarthy has it figured out for me…the Rice email meeting was really about how does the FBI continue the investigation without telling Trump. Mislead him at first to throw him off the scent. Simultaneously create enough Russia collusion noise through leaks that a SC is appointed. If true then this means Rosie and Mueller are definitely complicit.

The White House must not have very good security on its system. How was Rice able to send an email message to ANYONE on the WH server at 12:15 PM when she should have been barred from accessing it after 12 PM, which is when the Trump administration formally took over. It should not have been possible for her to do what she did.. How much later could Rice have sent such a message? 12:16? 1 PM? Sometime the next day? Does she still have access? Sloppy, very sloppy.

Hillary still has the highest Security Clearance. And I would guess ANY of the previous administration would have White House access by telling the gatekeeper they forgot and left their sweater in the closet, or some such! Gatekeepers weren’t suspicious like we are. we would have had a guard with a Rottweiler at every door.

That was a terrible misrepresentation by Andrew McCarthy. I’m not overly familiar with is work and I don’t read his NeverTrump Traitor rag, but I just finished reading McCarthy’s article, and it was awful.

Essentially, it misrepresents EVERYTHING going on here. It skips over the reality that the entire operation was a ruse to spy on the Trump campaign to undermine it and ensure Hillary’s victory, and when that didn’t work, the objective of the operation was to keep spying on Trump while using the conspiracy team to inject false stories into the complicit media to topple president-elect Trump before the inauguration, and then keep spying on Trump AFTER he became president in a Coup d’etat.

THAT is what was and IS going on, right now, to this day.

But most of McCarthy’s article gives the Sedition/Treason conspiracy team the benefit of the doubt, saying things like this:

……………………………………….
“In reality, Comey did suspect the president of wrongdoing and calculated that, at some point, the FBI would find the proof.

The director therefore declined to absolve the president publicly, which eventually cost him his job.”
………………………………………..

In reality?!?

That’s a lot of crap.

Neither Comey nor anyone else (Clinton, Steele, Page, Strzok, Baker, Ohr, Clapper, Brennan or anybody else) ever believed Trump colluded with Russia to influence the election or was any threat to national security, that was the 100% wholly manufactured EXCUSE the conspiracy team used to rationalize and justify their entire operation to stop Trump at all costs.

But it is the same lense (being the most optimistic I can be here), sadly, that the rest if America will come at this with because it is so freaking unbelievable. Just think how long it took us all to get here and how many times did you say it can’t be true.

I never said it can’t be true. Yes, it was, and is, astonishingly brazen and profoundly mindbogglingly corrupt and completely Anti-American, but Obama and his kin proved their mettle in the race to the bottom of the American Political Crime Scene for eight long destructive years. I never had reason to doubt. There is no room left for surprise.

I’m not necessarily jaded, but I am truly hoping my rage will rise when the time for it arrives. I’ve been supressing it for so long now.

Another question to think about: what did NSA Dir. Mike Rogers tell President Elect Donald Trump? Rogers’ was the lone dissenting voice in the IC to doubt the Russian interference memo, the so called 17 agencies document. Given that Trump fired Comey, I’d say he didn’t put much stock in anything Comey said. Admiral Rogers briefed President Trump before Comey did.

Yup and that is also why trump made the ref to recordings in his tweet – betcha

I so want to read this book when it is over

Subtle trump is not. We just didn’t know wtf was really going on and I know there are a ton of overt jabs trump was making at the IC once he got his pieces set up on the board and was saying/thinking I got nothing to lose you s.o.b.s so let’s play and just maybe I can win our country back cuz I’m a winner and that is what I do! You have NEVER met anyone like me before, cuz I’m the best that’s ever been. (I know what that sounds like, but really it is so true in EVERY word )

I can”t wait to learn what “…gold in those walls” was! The most intriguing and credible thought I’ve seen offered on the statement was that it was an allusion to an optic microphone, a bug that canmot be detected electronically.

Light travels from a remote transmitter to the pickup which consists of little more than a gold foil reflector that acts like a microphine diaphram, returning the light through a second fiber. The vibrations create variations in the timing of the returning light, et…

Voila! Zero has his personal bug fron Trump’s White House to his Black Widow’s Nest two miles away. Nerve Center of the Resistance my ass. WE are The Resistance!

McCarthy didn’t even bother to gloss over Page’s years of service to the FBI immediately hefore they “decided” he was a Foreign Agent.

Your suspicion is shared. Page very likely was a tool just like that Russuan Lawyer Vesilnitskaya who met with Fiction GPS before and after her little foray into Trump Tower.

Papadoofalus incessently pestered real campaign officials in an effort to set up a meeting between Trump and some Russian tart. That seems pretty suspicious as well.

Every “connection” to the Russians Obama and crew planned and created out of thin air. Theirs are the only dirty hands in this entire debacle. I guess Biden’s assessment of Obama’s hygiene was somewhat inaccurate.

I think Page is a different sort of plant. He’s too often in the wrong place at the right time for it to be a coincidence, and very much a thorn in the side of the FBI and others. He asked Comey to end the investigation into his Russia trips in a letter dated 10/25/2016… Before the FISA warrant was even granted.

Insightful reporting. But I can’t get past the fact that the article talks about the spying on Carter Page without informing the reader that they type of warrant they got on Page gave them the ability to spy on EVERYONE who comes in contact with Page. (At least, that’s what I’ve read here at the treehouse or somewhere.) It changes the whole dynamic of the story. This story gives the impression that Comey and others possibly believed in what they were doing, as opposed to getting a FISA on Carter so they could shamelessly spy on the entire campaign.

I don’t know, maybe the author is being cynical when saying “they believed”…. but it is unclear. For example this sentence: “If they had not believed those allegations were credible, they would not have put them in a warrant application to the FISA Court.” Bah humbug! If this was the only story I had read, I might think that Comey was just some true-believing sap who thought he was doing the right thing.

Maybe the author does not know that the warrant on Carter gave them the ability to spy on the entire Trump campaign, or maybe I’m wrong in my understanding of what I read. But if it is true, then not providing the readers the insight as to why Carter Page was selected obfuscates much of the point the author otherwise does a great job of making.

McCarthy’s writing on this subject has been interesting, but I think he’s being a bit naive, even Pollyannish, here. What we’ve learned in the past year is that Obama and his team were spying on EVERYONE – journalists, Supreme Court Justice, members of Congress, etc. Obviously, they did not believe all these people were Russian spies. They were doing it because THEY COULD. That was all the reason they needed. I think the same happened with the Trump campaign. Obama et al. did not actually believe all the nefarious things in that dossier. They just needed something to cover the tracks after they realized they might eventually get caught for having ALREADY spied on the Trump team.

I think the bottom line is, this “Obama et al were true believers so they get a pass” straw-man argument may be first thing out of the gate from all the lamestream and nevertrumpers when the zippo is finally thrown. As I said above, it has no legal validity and it’s merely a pacifier. The left will cling to it the way they clung to “Hillary won the popular vote.” They need their toys. It will be our job to pop this, their first trial balloon. It may not last much longer than the “Democrat memo will tell the truth!” balloon. But it will be hoisted.

Luckily we have plenty of factual evidence against it, very well laid out by all the treepers on this thread. You guys all deserve applause!

“Now, you can believe that the Obama administration’s motives were political, that the Trump–Russia collusion narrative was mainly a Democratic-party concoction to rationalize Hillary Clinton’s defeat and cripple Trump’s fledgling administration. Or you can believe that Obama officials, altruistically motivated to protect national security, were convinced that Trump was in cahoots with the Kremlin, and they were desperately trying to prove it.”

McCarthy does a good job here of articulating the two party spins that will emerge out of this scandal. If the Dossier was genuine, the Democrat spin would be greatly assisted. But you’re right. The Left will cling to the second rendition against all the evidence. America will remain as divided as before, perhaps even more bitterly,

They don’t get a pass because they thought they were in the right. But if you think they sat in a room and said, this is wrong, let’s do it anyways, you are going to be disappointed. You will never find a smoking gun like that. They put together justifications for doing what they wanted to do. This is how rationalization works.

“Imagine what would have happened, what we’d have heard from Trump, if Comey had said something along these lines:

…compiled during the 2016 race and paid for by the Clinton campaign.”

Clever as can be of Andrew McCarthy to subtly insert his assertion “paid for by the Clinton campaign” into his ‘this obviously didn’t really happen’ hypothetical scenario because that way he can never be accused of reporting the lie that propaganda was paid for by the Dems when in fact (R) Neocons such as Paul Singer are the origin sponsors of the particular piece of Anti-Trump fiction.

So calling our McCarthy and National Review as controlled opposition which should surprise no one who has discarded the filter that is the ultimate encumbrance of political correctness.

This whole thing hangs on the murder of Seth Rich. The Dossier and the Intelligence Assessment are fundamentally rooted to Trump and Russians hacking the DNC and using WikiLeaks to ruin Hillary Clinton. Without the DNC “hack” there is nothing to Russia’s interference in the election or any Trump collusion. Seth Rich is the Redline. Hannity and CTH can go on and on about all of this but, not Seth Rich. Mention Seth Rich and get your chain yanked. Everything now reflects a Limited Hangout. They’ve been caught, and they’re cutting their losses. What will “they” do to keep Seth Rich’s real killers hidden forever from public view?

What is still most interesting is the timing of Rice’s email. Was she hoping for a pardon that did not come? I think that she was expecting Obama to put out something that did not materialize, and so she hit “send” to protect herself, because she realized she’d been left to hang.

Listening to several vids today while re-reading McCarthy’s piece, it occurs several assumptions have been made, which may be unwarranted.

All assume Pres Trump was unaware of both the Clinton-DNC-Steele dossier and the Carter Page FISA order.
How do we know Pres Trump was unaware of either one, or both?

John McCain and Harry Reid, at the very least, knew of the Clinton-DNC-Steele dossier. Do we really believe that McCain did not tell Lindsay Graham? Mitch McConnell? Paul Ryan? VP Mike Pence? No one told? McCain/McConnell/Ryan would have wanted to use the Clinton-DNC-Steele dossier to blackmail Pres Trump, if nothing else, imo. Heck, the media knew. D.C. is Gossip Inc Central HQ. How is it possible that Pres Trump did not know?

Ibid for the Carter Page FISA order. It is not possible that no one knew of that FISA order outside of a very select few, that no one told anyone, imo. VP Mike Pence would have explained the nature and use of that FISA order to Pres Trump. Stephen Miller would have explained the FISA order as well. We tend to forget the many many years of D.C. experience and great minds sitting in the shadows in the White House now. Not to mention the CIA, NSA, DIA, and ODNI.

Too many people assume Pres Trump is stupid. Too many people underestimate Pres Trump. We have seen evidence of that everywhere. Time and time again we see that Pres Trump sees around corners.

Which brings us to the McCarthy piece, specifically one part –
“Before meeting with Trump on January 6, Comey met with his own FBI “leadership team” of advisers and discussed the plan to tell Trump he was not a suspect. At the Senate hearing, the committee’s ranking member, Mark Warner (D., Va.), asked the former director if everyone concurred in this plan. Comey’s answer was telling:
“Was it unanimous? One of the members of the leadership team had a view that…[Trump’s] behavior, [Trump’s] conduct will fall within the scope of that work…””

“Comey recalled that this adviser’s position didn’t change. His view was…it could be misleading, because the nature of the investigation was …it would touch the campaign, and the person at the head of the campaign would be the candidate.”

Who was that one guy, the one lone dissenting voice, the one who dealt with life as it exists, not with how they wished it to be? How angry was/is that one guy, after Comey went stupid again? The one guy who recognized how much there was to lose, should things again go wrong?
What was the group’s original consensus that Comey decided to change, “in the moment?”

Why did Rob Rosenstein sign that last Carter Page FISA order?
He-who-shall-not-be-named?
There was an old TV show, never watched it, To Catch A Leak, iirc. Or something.