I don't think Congress should begin impeachment proceedings against President Obama right now, but I also don't think that considering the idea is "crazy talk."

The man has, in my view and that of many others, committed multitudinous impeachable offenses, and we need to strenuously object and bring it to the public's attention every chance we get. The idea of turning our heads and looking the other way is repugnant.

Yes, the elections are too close for Republicans to risk impeachment proceedings at this point, unless it became clear that the majority of Americans have the political will for that action -- as Andy McCarthy eloquently explains in his book "Faithless Execution."

But my concern is that many of those who are so dismissive of impeachment are the same ones who always argue caution in opposing Obama. They tend to throw in the towel before the fights even begin, scared of their shadow and forever banking on that next election.

Though it may not be the opportune time for impeachment, I am very concerned about what Obama's unchecked usurpations of power have done to the balance of power in the federal government and the overall integrity of the Constitution and the rule of law. Seeing as we have not taken any formal action against this president for his egregious transgressions, what will the next president be allowed to do on his own should he choose to operate outside his authority to the same extent Obama has?

But to me, impeachment really isn't the issue when it comes to the various factions within the Republican Party and the conservative movement. I have long contended that the differences between tea party conservatives and the so-called establishment are far deeper than "tactics"; they also involve policy disagreements.

On that point, let me ask you to consider what will happen if Republicans do end up with control of both the House and the Senate. What will the prudent and cautious advocate then? Will they say not to oppose Obama too much for fear that he'd successfully demonize Republicans as partisan saboteurs and ensure the election of a Democrat as president in 2016?

Let's go further. Let's say Republicans then win the presidency and retain control of Congress in 2016. Then what?

I would wager that many of my establishment friends will continue to advise restraint, urging us not to drastically roll back Obama's liberal policies, either because they'll be horrified about the next election or because they have really, in the end, lost their stomach for political battle and their taste for free market principles.

I suspect that many of them have come to accept a large, "energetic' federal government and believe that Republicans should just accept it and instead devise original and creative yet "conservative" policy solutions within the big-government framework. In other words, we should throw in the towel on our founding principles, accept the liberal narrative that Reagan conservatism is extremism, and do the best we can within the new paradigm.

I certainly hope I'm overstating the case, but I've seen how timidly Republicans have operated on domestic and social issues when in power, and I've read the commentary of many establishment-oriented pundits about "compassionate conservatism" and similar tautologies.

Conservatives have been warning for years about the unchecked explosion of entitlements, runaway deficits and debt, the destructiveness of the welfare state, the enormous problems with federal control of education, the evils of socialized medicine, the growth-smothering effects of federal taxing and spending policies, the freedom-smothering metastasis of the federal regulatory leviathan, and the danger to the republic from unchecked, rampant illegal immigration.

Will Republicans, if they regain power of both political branches, have the political will to begin to unravel the nightmares caused by an abandonment of our founding principles, or will they just nibble around the edges with insignificant modifications because they no longer believe in either conservative principles or their ability to convince the people that our ideas are still superior?

You see, my real concern is not about impeachment. It's that too many of us have given up on the ideas that made America great -- other than to pay meaningless lip service to them. I'm worried that too many of us have given up the fight. We have watched as liberals have overtaken our cultural and educational institutions and successfully vilified the American idea -- even to the point that they have many on our side convinced.

Well, I'm not among those convinced, and I don't believe that the majority of the American people are, either. But I do think that we need leaders who will articulate conservative ideas unapologetically and that conservatives need to engage in the culture war and try to make progress toward reversing this illusion that limited government, capitalism and traditional morality are wrongheaded and extreme.

I just want us to get back in the fight. We face a tireless, relentless foe in liberalism, and if we're not up to the challenge, we might as well kiss America goodbye, irrespective of whether we win or lose the next few elections.

But I am praying -- and choose to believe -- that we can and will turn this around because our ideas are superior and the majority of people still instinctively understand that. But we need to begin acting and talking as though we believe it

The Vichy Republicans haven't lost their will to fight. They fight tooth and nail, hard and dirty against their base (Thad Cochran over Chris McDaniel). They LOVE and admire Barack Hussein Obama. They love his policies, and hope to simply take them over when Barky leaves office.

I call them Vichy Republicans because they're beginning to resemble the Vichy French, who were more savage and violent against fellow Frenchmen and Jews than they were against the Nazis.

Right..the left and their MSM croonies will say "the GOP wants to starve YOUR kids"..and the GOP will give some LOOONG winded answer instead of saying that the left wants you to live in poverty. The left WANTS you and your kids DEPENDENT on them. The LEFT is smarter then you.RUSH IS RIGHT..this is a war of IDEALS and IDEAS for the future and the present.

the GOP power elite are looking at obama’s power usurpations and drooling. they’d love to have that kind of power in 2016, so they are perfectly willing to sit back and cry crocodile tears about the shredding of the constitution because when they get their turn, they’ll start out where obama left off.

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posted on 07/18/2014 5:43:02 AM PDT
by camle
(keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)

"When you blame others, you give up your power to change." (Robert Anthony)

Will Republicans, if they regain power of both political branches, have the political will to begin to unravel the nightmares caused by an abandonment of our founding principles,

or will they just nibble around the edges with insignificant modifications because they no longer believe in either conservative principles or their ability to convince the people that our ideas are still superior?

We have already answered that question, I fear. I hope the answers are temporary.

"....The GOP is paralyzed... afraid of its own shadow....just like the DNC wants it to be. Everyone KNOWS it! The paralysis is has been developing for decades and it is fatal." .....the so called right is too concerned about the number and flow of feathers in their nests I dont think the right has lost its will, its the Beltway GOP. (and IMNVHO state and local Republicans, supported by the RNC.) The GOP fights for what it really wants."

IMNVHO, "nibbling around the edges" is exactly what many posters on this site are doing with the endless discussion of the crimes of Obama. Pointless, IMNVHO, because Obama and his criminal team belong to another party, over which those who do not belong to it, US, have no power, except the vote, now (1)neglected by many non-Democrats and (2) corrupted by the Democrats.

Whatever power we do have is over the party to which we belong, which has neglected us and is corrupted. So, there is no effective party into which we can place our trust to represent us and our views in government.

We rightly fear that Third Parties will doom us at this stage of our development. Enter the Tea Party. It is the beginning of the reform of the Republican Party .... but it is not yet a national party ... it is not yet an effective organization ...and the "official" Republican Party is fighting it tooth and nail with vast resources.

We are left with two herculean tasks. First, we (and I do mean we) must reform (revive? bury? re-name?) the Republican Party. Second, we (and I do mean we)must convince that party to represent us, assuming that is, that the Third World population shift, Minorities, Special Interest Groups, and Women do not outnumber Americans of sense, or miraculously come to their senses!

I have no doubt that the Republicans will sweep Congress in 2014. Our best strategy will be to be in their face every moment of the next two years to force them to stand for the needed changes and not accommodate Team Obama. The question above has to be answered correctly.

Holder is said to be resigning. Perhaps Obama can be driven to follow suit. However, a tanked economy is the dominant fact of our national life ... a new population demographic doesn't care and just wants to divide up the remains ... that means our new Congress will be driven to go along to get along. That is what we must prevent.

...if possible at this stage in our history ... really the life cycle of the American Republic.

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posted on 07/18/2014 5:44:57 AM PDT
by Kenny Bunk
(The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)

Prudent people prepare plan “B” at this point in time. Inside of three years, the illegals Obama is bring in and distributing throughout the country will turn the United States into the same hellhole and pig pen that they left. As the Holy Bible says over and over, “He that hath an ear, let him hear.”

Conservatives and Constitutionalists have no political party to represent them. Currently there is one political party, masquerading as two. And for the most part, Conservatives have swallowed the “We are a two party system” line hook, line, and sinker.

Boehner, McConnell and all the other timid, cowardly, weak and hapless RINO’s in elective office are NOT “The Right”. They aren’t even the mushy middle, they’re just mushy careerists, who look out for themselves. That’s the extent of their interests.

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posted on 07/18/2014 6:46:40 AM PDT
by Jabba the Nutt
(You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)

It is not a symbolic vote. My goal is not to waste my vote. My goal is to vote for the candidate most likely to defeat him. I want this RINO out of office. We have to clean our own house before we set our sights on the senate. If we can do both, great, but first things first.

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posted on 07/18/2014 7:03:32 AM PDT
by cuban leaf
(The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)

I pulled up 45 year old stakes in Seattle and moved to KY in 2011. A major part of my resaoning was what is happening. I didn’t feel the way my new tagline reads then, but I do now. As solidly as I believe the sun will rise in the east tomorrow. I have no doubt.

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posted on 07/18/2014 7:07:54 AM PDT
by cuban leaf
(The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)

The GOPe is spineless and sniveling. They have no clue how to fight, and just wants to have the titles with none of the responsibility.

The conservative grassroots is disorganized, naive, tries to be too smart by half, refuses to utilize the tools the left are master at exploiting, and thinks that the mere idea of conservatism should be enough to win.

Spot on accurate! The right is more than willing to engage the communist left but it’s hard to do when the Vichy GOPE are in control of the levers of power in the House and in the Republican Party aka Socialist Lite.

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