6/19 what's with the cumshot in eye at the end of porn?
i would never do such a thing
\_ seconded. And anal, why the hell would you do something as
dirty and as risky as that. It smells too.
\_ Obviously, you've never served.
\_ You mean military or prison, or either?
\_ BUD DAY doesn't like your tone! Drop and give me twenty!
\_ Sounds like you have lots of experience.. tell us more.
\_ And what's with all the creampie movies out there lately, why
would you ever want to cum inside the vagina?
\_ uh....
\_ I guess it's gotta go somewhere. but why her eyeball?
\_ The porn you're watching is all too common, and dallies in fucked
up power dynamics and humiliation rituals that have always been
really disturbing to me. If you've wondered why so many women
"hate porn", it's because of stuff like this.
\_ I think I shot it up someone's nose once -- I was too busy laughing
to notice how pissed she was -- then there was the time I did the
self-facial by accident. Sex is so dirrrrty and fun!
\_ I did that once by accident, but both of us found it funny
enough to just laugh it up. According to that nympho women
forum posted on motd a while back, cum in the eye is supposed
to burn! Or maybe her partner had some problems...
\_ Ho don't cry
When I nut in your eye
Let it drip down your face
Bitch how does it taste?
--Robert Frost
\_ A Lap Dance Is So Much Better When the Stripper Is Crying?
\- E_CRYINGINTHERAIN

6/19 Hillary Clinton's campaign theme song is a Celine Dion tune.
Now I can't vote for her.
\_ Obama's is "Think" by Aretha Franklin. which is about a man
cheating on a woman. Do you think Obama is trying to enrage
the Hillary?
http://www.lyrics007.com/Aretha%20Franklin%20Lyrics/Think%20Lyrics.htmlhttp://preview.tinyurl.com/yogl75 (lyrics007.com)
\_ "You And I"
\_ Blame Canada
\_ Why not?
\_ Lieberman's is LETS HAVE A WAR
\_ The first candidate that chooses "TV Party" as their theme
song gets my vote.
\_ This is like Michael Moore saying he'd support the first
candidate to dance in a moshpit: you're going to end up
endorsing Alan Keyes. http://csua.org/u/iz7 (Michael Moore)
\_ Bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran -- McCain

6/19 Just FYI, there was a question about when "the surge" would be complete
(at full strength). Apparently the buildup finished last week, and the
first major campaign begins this week.
\_ It's all a sham. We're not leaving Iraq. EVER.
\_ Just like Japan, Germany, South Korea, etc.?
\_ and those are the success stories!
\_ Comparing those three with Iraq is intellectual dishonesty at
its purest.
\_ Yes because we actually fought in those places. We're not
fighting in Iraq. Just getting troops killed with no real
mission.
\_ I thought they already started moving into AlQ controlled areas of
the city a few days ago? Close enough I guess. Anyway, I've
already read media reports saying the surge has failed and Reid has
said it was a failure so let's can the whole thing.
\_ We should give it at least 2 more Friedman units to fail.
\_ http://www.csua.org/u/iyw (Failed States Index)
Hey, with just a bit more effort we can get Iraq to number one!

6/19 // Motd summary on the age of consent
boolean legal(float age1, float age2) {
assert(age1 >= 10 && age2 >= 10 && age1 >= age2);
if (age1 >= 21 && age2 >= 21) return true;
float range = (age2 / 5);
if (age1 <= age2 + range) return true;
return false;
}
\_ Your assert is stupid.
\_ deltaAllowed x y = (min x y) / 5
legal x y = if ((x <10) || (y <10)) then False
else if ((x >= 21) && (y >= 21)) then True
else if (deltaAllowed x y) < abs (x - y) then False
else True
\_ legal x y | ((x < minAge) || (y < minAge)) = False
| ((x >= adult) && (y >= adult)) = True
| deltaAllowed < abs (x - y) = False
| otherwise = True
where deltaAllowed = (min x y) / 5
minAge = 10
adult = 21
\_ The real summary: One person wants legal and social acceptance to
have sex with children as an adult. Everyone else thinks having
sex with children is wrong and should be punished in various
permanent and painful ways.
\_ I never said anything about social acceptance. I also don't
consider 16 year olds children. "Everyone else" apparently
doesn't agree with you if you look at the most common laws.
\_ Oh yeah? Then why were you so upset when I said it made me
ill? It is wrong for an adult to have sex with a child.
Your hypothetical experienced 16 year old is what healthy
adults would call a "victim". 16 year olds should not have
that much experience, if they do something has gone very
wrong in their lives. An adult should not be taking
advantage of any child and doubly so a troubled child. Please
seek psychological help before you need legal help and you
leave some child in need of psychological help.
\_ I was using the experience thing as a counterexample. My
point does not depend on the 16 year old being experienced.
My point is pretty simple and has nothing to do with me
(I'm much more attracted to 20-somethings.)
1. 16 year olds do have sex, regardless of how ill it
makes you. If they want to, they want to. Sexual/
biological maturity comes before age 18 for the
vast majority of people.
\_ But not the non-biological maturity required to
deal with it in today's society. Some girls are
hitting puberty having periods as young and 9 and
10 now. That doesn't make them "a-ok" for sex.
\_ Deal with it? They do have it. That's the
point. The issue is why it's so harmful if
the partner is over a certain age. Do I think
a 16 year old is truly "mature"? No, neither is
an 18 year old for that matter. But you can't
ignore biology completely. A 16 year old is
mature by historical standards. They will
learn things all their life. They are mature
enough for sex if they feel they are though.
I'm not sure why you think sex is so evil.
Maybe you have psychological damage from
an overly strict upbringing.
There is a contradiction in exempting people
when the age difference is < x. Either it's
ok or it isn't. The 18 screwing the 17 is
a pedophile or not the same as the 22 or 26
and the 17, or whatever. 16 is an arbitrary
choice midway between biological maturity
and legal maturity.
\_ "Mature by historical standards" is not a
reasonable argument. By "historical
standards," your five year-olds should be
at work in factories, not in school. You
asked for reasonable arguments, but you
continue to ignore reasonable points. Face
it, man, you just want to have sex with
16 year-olds, and no reasonable argument is
going to convince you.
\_ You're ignoring my arguments and
attacking that one statement. Forget that
one then, it would take too long to
pedantically rephrase it in a way that
would avoid this kind of attack. Please
explain how it's unreasonable when most
of the world agrees with me.
\_ Second fallacy: I'm right because
most of the world agrees with me.
Closely tied to sub-fallacy: Most of
the world agrees with me.
\_ You were the one claiming that all
"reasonable" and "healthy" people
agree with you and that I'd get
thrown in jail. Are you the only
reasonable one? There's no point
arguing about what is reasonable.
\_ You're talking with more than
one person. Anyway, what is
wrong with it is that society
has deemed 16 years old too
young for sex with older men.
If you don't like that you can
a) deal with it, b) move to
Thailand, or c) try to get the
laws changed under the banner
of the Child Rapist Party. I
don't hold out much hope for
your option c), though. Good
luck with that and the therapy
sessions.
\_ You do realize that 16 is
fully legal in most of the
US already? So "society"
hasn't deemed any such thing,
only individual states?
2. Sex is not inherently harmful. Sex/love is a basic
human drive and doesn't cause psychological harm.
Rape etc. might. But sex != rape. Everyone is an
innocent virgin once. I would find a 40-something
with a teenager weird... but it's already legal
for 40+ to bang an 18 year old and that's also
weird. What's the actual harm?
\_ Sex is not love. Love is not sex. Once you
understand that the rest becomes clear.
\_ Why do you think I don't?
\_ from reading the rest of your pedantic
ranting about why you think it is ok to
have sex with children. seek help.
3. Age difference alone isn't harmful and shouldn't
be criminalized above age 16.
\_ Why 16? Why not 10? Why not birth? Age is the
only way society has to determine a general rule
that can be applied as law.
4. 16 year olds are legal anyway in tons of places so
I wouldn't need any legal help.
\_ Good luck in that Thai prison. You still need
serious psychological help even if this whole
thing has been a multi-day troll.
\_ Explain this please:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:AOCWorldMap.pnghttp://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm
The US avg. is 16. Many countries allow even
lower and leave it to the court to decide if
there was something unreasonable going on.
\_ many countries are fucked up in lots of ways
we should not seek to emulate. "other
countries are primitive fuck ups who let
their children be raped so we should too!"
is not a reasonable point.
\_ Dear Sir, I would like to help you. What is your
name and address, please?
\_ I was hoping the law were more lenient. My sister is five years
younger than me, and now I have to wait till she reaches 21.

6/19 ABC News reports that average height in USA is shrinking (relative to
other countries). They mention health care, but fail to mention
immigration.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3293191
\_ "Researchers said that one reason for Denmark's top ranking could
be that the Dutch health-care system provides better care to
children ..." What does the Dutch health-care system have to do
with people in Denmark??? (And this is coming from a big media
company.)
\_ "Researchers said that one reason for Denmark's top ranking could be
that the Dutch health-care system provides better care to children
..." What does the Dutch health-care system have to do with people
in Denmark??? (And this is coming from a big media company.)
\_ They are just being clueless. It is true that Dutch people are
fucking huge. I'm 5'9" and everyone towers over me when I
visit.
fucking huge. I'm 5'9" and everyone towers over me when I visit.
\_ Are Dutch chicks fucking huge too? That sounds really hot.
\_ Do they have huge tits? Really tall with huge tits would
be hot.
\_ Do they have huge tits? Really tall chicks who look like
eric with huge tits would be hot.
\_ double EE cups
i wonder if she is Danish?
i wonder if she is Dutch?
\_ Do they have huge tits? Really tall chicks who look like eric
with huge tits would be hot.
\_ double EE cups i wonder if she is Dutch?
http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/17607/92081a1d
\_ Which Euro country has the biggest tits?
\_ HOT!! Real or fake?
\_ I once had a Danish female co-worker and she was hawt. She
was average height, though.
\_ DUTCH, fool. The Netherlands and Daneland are different places.
\_ I had sex once with a girl who's grandparents were
from the Netherlands. Goddamn.
\_ DUTCH, fool. The Netherlands and Deutchland are
different places.
\_ I had sex once with a girl who's grandparents were from the
Netherlands. Goddamn.
\_ I found a cartoon about hot Dutch girls.
http://tinyurl.com/32v8zc
\_ DUTCH, fool. The Netherlands and Deutchland are different
places.
\_ NO SHIT, asshole. The dude who said "Dutch" got it
\_ fuck YOU dutch nazi appeaser.
I read Diary Of Anne Frank
i am onto you
wrong, not me. Denmark is the country with the huge
people. The Netherlands is the place with the health
care system.
\_ fuck YOU dutch nazi appeaser. I read Diary Of Anne
Frank i am onto you wrong, not me. Denmark is the
country with the huge people. The Netherlands is the
place with the health care system.
\_ I AM fucking Dutch, the Dutch are huge (but I am
not)
The Danish may be tall too, but my relatives tell
me the Dutch are the tallest in Europe.
not) The Danish may be tall too, but my relatives
tell me the Dutch are the tallest in Europe.
\_ I'm Danish and 7'. My greatgrandmother was
Danish and 5'. Height is a function of genes and
diet. --erikred
\_ Dutch chicks are tall, have huge tits and great bodies from
riding their bicycles everywhere, which they show off in
tight spandex pants. They hate the suburbs though :-(
\_ are there suburbs in dutchland?
\_ There are plenty of then in the netherlands, yes
My aunt & uncle just moved from the suburbs of
Amsterdam to the city.
\_ And chernobyl
\_ It also failed to mention too many video games and too much TV.
\_ I absolutely agree that this has to do with immigration. Have you
ever walked around the Mission District? I'm only 5'7" but I feel
like a giant there.
\_ You're all short. --erikred
\_ What about average penis size in USA relative to other countries?

6/19 Rudy Giuliani failed to show up for single meeting of Iraq Study Group
because of fundraising commitments. He was ejected from the panel.
Media basically ignores story.
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/longisland/ny-usrudy0619,0,2577021,print.story
\_ The media ignores it for the same reason they love McCain. They're
both on the left side of the (R) party. This isn't rocket science.
\_ is he only Republican who has not been to Iraq?
\_ Don't know, but the media seems to LUUUUURVE Rudy in a way
they do with no other candidate. I wonder if we should start
calling him "Free Ride Rudy."
\_ So I guess you missed the discussion about his position on
abortion?
\_ Nope. They pretty much lurved him for that too. Look,
if anyone else was running as the "WAR ON TERRAH"
candidate, and it came out that they blew off ALL
meetings about Iraq to raise money, their campaign
would likely be over...especially with all these
other Rs eager to prove they're "tougher than Bush."
But not for Free Ride Rudy!
\_ In other news, Free Ride Rudy's SC campaign chairman indicted
for conspiracy to distribute cocaine:
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/docs/ravenel-indictment

6/19 Bloomberg leaves GOP, probably as prelude to third party presidential
run. This will split R vote, leading inevitably to PRESIDENT HILLARY
HAHAHAHAHA DOOOMMMMM!!!!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070619/ap_on_el_pr/bloomberg_politics
\_ Bloomberg is a RINO, won't he take more D votes than R?
\_ being a RINO sounds great now. Who'd want to be a real
Republican?
\_ Fo real, anyone else want to announce they're leaving that
load of bull behind?
\_ Yah, this was only the formal announcement of something we already
knew. Arnold will hopefully be next.
\_ I'm sure it has nothing to do with the R party's current
connotation with corruption and spectacular incompetence.
\_ How will Arnold run for president? That whole Constitution
thing and all...
\_ The Governator is trying to change the Constitutuion on that.
\_ Demolition Man!
\_ When I said "Arnold will hopefully be next" I meant the next
to drop the pretense of being an R. -pp
\_ Bloomwho? No one is voting for Bloomberg and he already said
flat out he isn't running now or ever.
\_ Where did he say that?
\- Bloomberg -> Henri IV
\_ Talking to reporters about 2-3 days ago.
\_ Bloomberg is whatever he thinks he is. He's going to run
a-la Independent. You know how far that got Perot, and Anderson.
He's was not even remotely Republican to begin with.
\_ Then again, maybe not
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070620/pl_nm/bloomberg_dc