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Greinke remarked that some of his Brewers teammates didn’t like when Carpenter shouted at hitters from the mound, saying that, “his presence, his attitude out there is sometimes like a phony attitude.”

So, how is that Greinke trade for the Cardinals looking?

Well, Greinke’s comments wouldn’t necessarily stop the Cardinals from pursuing him, according to one official with knowledge of the team’s thinking. But the Cardinals would not be willing to meet the Brewers’ price, and doubt that the Brewers would even trade Greinke to a division rival, the official said.

Cardinals could have interest in Wandy Rodriguez and Brett Myers of the Astros

Greinke, Hamels and Garza aren’t the only available options, however. The Astros, who are prepared to move left-hander Wandy Rodriguez and right-handed reliever Brett Myers, among others, would appear an obvious partner; their GM, Jeff Luhnow, drafted many of the Cardinals’ top prospects during his tenure in St. Louis.

the ‪#STLCards‬ have some interest in veteran lefty brian fuentes, who the a's are DFA'ed & are trying to trade.

Quote via MLBTRADERUMORS

The Cardinals are interested in trading for Athletics left-hander Brian Fuentes, reports Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com (via Twitter). Oakland designated the reliever for assignment on Tuesday after he posted a 6.84 ERA with 6.5 K/9 and 3.6 BB/9 in 26 appearances.

The Cardinals currently have two left-handers in their bullpen but could benefit from adding Fuentes to the mix as Marc Rzepczynski (5.52 ERA) has struggled and Barret Browning has only pitched 4.1 innings in his entire Major League career. Fuentes, 37 in August, is in the second year of a two-year, $10.5MM contract he signed following the 2010 season. He'll earn $5MM this year and his contract includes a $6.5MM club option for 2013 ($500K buyout).

I think the Fuentes deal is likely unless someone else jumps in and snatches him, we seem to have good luck fixing broken pitchers and this guy can be pretty good when he's right

Discuss and put anything else you'd like in here for trades, rumors and what you would like to see the team do.

I think the Cardinals are going to go after a similar deal like last year with Toronto/White Sox to land a SP and bullpen help which includes a LHP and set up man. Not sure if this will have to be a three team deal to complete it or not. It seems that Wandy and Brett Myers and getting Fuentes would be the cheapest move for the Cardinals, but not sure if this would be best for the club . The new CBA agreement and the inability of getting draft picks in return may make the Cardinals reluctant to trade away top prospects by going after potential rental SP like Hamels or Grienke unless we can turn around and sign them. I'd like to see the Cardinals go after a 2B as well like Aaron Hill if available, but Skip has been playing well enough so far.

Levine is the Cubs beat writer for the local ESPN affiliate in Chicago.

French writer Alexis de Tocqueville warned about when visiting this fledgling democracy in the early 19th century – that this "American republic will endure until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money."

I'd be completely fine with dempster, I could get used to his annoying glove twist lol

He is not in the long term plans for the Cubs as a player so would love for him to get a chance to go back to the playoffs. He has been an absolute trooper doing everything asked by the team from being a closer to a starter. On top of being an absolute stand up guy in the club house and community of Chicago. Could see him coming back to the team in a front office position after he retires.

With that said wonder what the Cards would have to offer to get him.

French writer Alexis de Tocqueville warned about when visiting this fledgling democracy in the early 19th century – that this "American republic will endure until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money."

Pitching AA and above. The farm system is really coming together but everything is below AA in terms of pitching. Not much talent pitching wise in AA and AAA.

French writer Alexis de Tocqueville warned about when visiting this fledgling democracy in the early 19th century – that this "American republic will endure until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money."

Honestly I think the cards would be willing to deal anyone outside Miller, Tavares, Wong and maybe Martinez, idk what everyone else thinks. We have a ton of uneeded prospects. We have Adams, Cox who are the biggest trade chips since their positions are pretty much blocked by better players

I think for Demp they are probably going to be looking for two players with one being pretty good. He has been outstanding this year and was extremely strong in his first start coming back from his lat strain. Cubs are sitting in a really good position with Demp and Garza to trade before the deadline. Doing so also will help them get the number one draft pick for next season also lol.

French writer Alexis de Tocqueville warned about when visiting this fledgling democracy in the early 19th century – that this "American republic will endure until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money."

I think for Demp they are probably going to be looking for two players with one being pretty good. He has been outstanding this year and was extremely strong in his first start coming back from his lat strain. Cubs are sitting in a really good position with Demp and Garza to trade before the deadline. Doing so also will help them get the number one draft pick for next season also lol.

If I had to go in and put a guess on it I would imagine the Cubs would be looking for pitching. They are pretty barren of pitching talent AA or above. So with that said if I was Theo I would try and buy low on Shelby Miller. With his struggles in AAA he has been falling down the list of top prospects in baseball. Pretty certain your FO would say no but that would be where I started. After that I would probably fall to asking for one of Jenkins or Rosenthal with a lottery ticket type of pitching prospect (someone raw with a high ceiling but low floor).

All this being done with the caveat that I am not real familiar with your farm system. So in doing just a little bit of research and using John Sickels mid season report. Is how I came up with the names that I did.

French writer Alexis de Tocqueville warned about when visiting this fledgling democracy in the early 19th century – that this "American republic will endure until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money."

If I had to go in and put a guess on it I would imagine the Cubs would be looking for pitching. They are pretty barren of pitching talent AA or above. So with that said if I was Theo I would try and buy low on Shelby Miller. With his struggles in AAA he has been falling down the list of top prospects in baseball. Pretty certain your FO would say no but that would be where I started. After that I would probably fall to asking for one of Jenkins or Rosenthal with a lottery ticket type of pitching prospect (someone raw with a high ceiling but low floor).

All this being done with the caveat that I am not real familiar with your farm system. So in doing just a little bit of research and using John Sickels mid season report. Is how I came up with the names that I did.

Most of Shelby's issues stem from being a fly ball pitcher in a homer happy league in a homer happy ball park. His K and BB rates are still there, and his velocity is only down because the organization is making him throw two seamers instead of four seamers. He isn't really low on our totem poll, he is our next starter to get called up.

For Demp, Rosenthall or Jenkins would be available.

In a trade for Demp, I would offer Rosenthall and a High A to Triple A position player at a position the Cubs are weak at that is between the ages of 21 and 24. Ideally, it would be an outfielder since we are stronger there.

I don't think there is any way the Cards and Cubs make any trades together unless it's a one year rental player (Demp could potentially be signed long term, more of a franchise pitcher to the Cubs, so not him) who was only in one city for a few months and that team is out of it, and the other team could use the help for a low level minor leaguer.

I can't see the Cubs and Cards hooking up ever really again...too much negative can happen from a deal.

Lol. Idk. Prospects aren't exactly my domaine, Jeffy could probably tell you exactly which propects would be right. He keeps himself very up to date on prospects. I'm thinking a guy like jordan swagerty but he's working his way back from tommy John now