Tuesday, June 20, 2017

Did the US, Again, Enforce a No Fly Zone over Annexed Syrian Territory?

Not sure why it is this question isn't being asked?It's clear that the US has the means to do so what with all the bases they've built with the assistance of PKK/YPG in annexed Syrian territory.Then there is another question that needs asking, this one regarding the Russian response.Why just west of the Euphrates, Russian leadership, if the territorial integrity of Syria is sacrosanct?

"A US coalition warplane downed on Sunday evening a Syrian regime army
jet as a response to attacks targeting a group of Kurdish fighters.The coalition announced in a statement that a Syrian SU-22 jet
dropped bombs near Syrian Democratic Forces positions in southern Tabqa.“In accordance with its right to defend itself or its partnered
force, the Syrian jet was immediately shot down by a US F/A-18 Super
Hornet,” the statement said.Meanwhile, the Syrian regime said in a statement that the pilot of the downed jet was missing.The regime statement also claimed that its jet was downed while on a mission against ISIS militants"

I have no problem with the Syrian government calling the PKK/YPG, ISIS. That symbiosis has been demonstrated abundantly here. What concerns me is it appears the US is enforcing a no fly zone for Syrian forces over their own territory- In a replay of Iraq. I've mentioned this as a probable reality a number of times and here it is actually occurring! No one else is talking about this?flashback: August 23/2016: A Defacto No Fly Zone Has Indeed Been Created in Syria!

Defacto: being such in effect though not formally recognized: exercising power as if legally constituted......If it walks, and talks like a duck, it’s a duck.
And for all intents and purposes a no fly zone has been instituted over
Syria as the US and company openly assist the Kurds in their land
grabbing, annexation and ethnic cleansing.

When the US chased Syrian jets away from Hasakah- You know Syrian territory that the US has been aiding the kurds in annexation and ethnic cleansing....

Of course at the time the US denied they had created a defacto no fly zone- Yet, then as now, it looks as if they have-

General Talal Silo released a statement regarding the Syrian regime forces' attack on SDF positions near Tabqa.
The statement said the following:

“After the heroic resistance demonstrated by our troops and the
allied forces against terrorism within the Wrath of Euphrates campaign
launched by SDF that aims for isolating Raqqa city, and mainly after the
Great Battle was started to liberate Raqqa city which is the alleged
capital of terrorism and terrorists- during which our forces excellently
progressed and liberated many neighborhoods already- the Baathist
regime launched a deliberate and expansive attack on the areas liberated
by SDF, using warplanes, artillery and tanks June 17, 2017. The attack
targeted a territory liberated by SDF three months ago as part of the
campaign to liberate the Tabqa town and the Euphrates Dam.

Syria want's their Dams back and pardon the pun, they have dam good reasons for wanting their water/electricity supply and rich farmland back!

"We confirm that if the regime forces continue their attacks on our sites
in Raqqa governorate, it will oblige us to use our right to legitimate
defense and retaliate.”

Those sites are Syria's territory- They don't belong to a pack of terrorists the US threw their big guns behind-

“Any
aircraft, including planes and drones belonging to the international
coalition operating west of the Euphrates river, will be tracked by
Russian anti-aircraft forces in the sky and on the ground and treated as
targets.”

“What
is this other than an act of aggression in violation of the norms of
international law? This, if you like, is help for the terrorists that
the US are fighting under what they call their anti-terrorism policy.”

This is being ballyhooed as some big threat! I don't see it. It's not even a response to the attack made against the Syrian plane in my opinion.

It's what's happening east of the Euphrates that should concern Russia if the territorial integrity of Syria was really the priority.

We should be able to look at a map and understand that water control is the aim of Israel 2.0 aka Greater Kurdistan. Much like Israel the 1st- As Israel 2.0 is formed taking in the Tigris and the Euphrates...

I noticed Mr Doğu Perinçek , over in Turkey was using the Israel 2.0 title recently...Getting harder to deny now... Read that and have it bookmarked- when I find that item it will be here..... From earlier today:

42 comments:

Hi Penny, just finished my exams!! How are you? Sorry I haven't been commenting but I still come and read your blog everyday. I have been stresses out lately but I can relax now. You are amazing at what you do. Very aware of everything. Thank you for this post. It's really difficult to see where Russia is in all of this! Sadly, everyone has fallen for the Kurdish meme. Even when I am on public transport in Manchester, I can hear people talking about the 'Kurds' as if they are a big blob. I went to see a psychic a few weeks ago and she told me some really important things about my life that no one could have known. I am still amazed by this. Do you believe in psychics?

Jinns are not like devils, According to islamic mythos. Humans are created from dirt and Jinn from Fire. Both have free will, both can have their believers and non-believers. But the rules of physics does not necessarily apply to them, so while walls can block our movement, they can go straight trough it, they can choose to show themselves to humans or not, so eavesdropping without getting seen, or stalk a human and learn about them. Their standard of living is different from ours and their lifespan is a lot longer then ours.

Wow Kaz haha. That video was funny. Still, even if they're talking to Jinns, that's still pretty cool. I am not sure if psychics are great at figuring people out or really do have connections with spirits. Link more info if you have it. Your info on the Armenian Genocide was very useful.

also Kaz and Ally I enjoyed your exchange on the Jinn, because I didn't know anything on the subject- want to see the video and I don't know about the 14 page link cause I don't know Turkish at all and Google translate is poor...

Penny, According to some reports, it is not only in SDF controlled territory but also on rebel held territory to the desert southeast of Syria.

A newspaper in Turkey has also reported that IDF, might engage in Syria for the safety of Israel, with the arguments that Lebanon all the way to Iran will be controlled by Iran supported shia assets and thus has to act. However one should note that this newspaper failed to publish this with any credible sources.

And strangely enough, besides the usual outcry's by the russian and syrian governments. They seem to be still okey with SDF forces.

One of the points I've been making on the issue of the Russians' "East of the Euphrates" issue is that...and this timing is critically eloquent...at the same time the US shot down the Syrian jet, Iran fired 6 ballistic missiles into Eastern Syria from Iran. This attack was publically stated to be a retribution for the Terrorist attack in Tehran a few weeks ago. BUT, also it was said that the attack was co-ordinated with Syrian forces. IMO, this attack was a warning to USrael that it has been "surrounded" in its eastern Syria enclaves and that it is Iran that has been tasked with attacking it from it's eastern flank. To this end, Iran said that there were "more attacks coming". So, in summary, Russia has not abandoned the most resource rich and (future pipelines) strategic area of Syria to USrael. They just have a more complicated and co-ordinated (with allies) strategy to take it back.

"Why just west of the Euphrates, Russian leadership, if the territorial integrity of Syria is sacrosanct?"

Yup. My thought exactly. Of course I was met with a sarcastic response when I voiced my concern on SyPer. If I see something that smacks of Syrian partition, whether in language or deed, then I point it out like a gadfly. I don't want anyone to get used to the idea of some sort of "Cold War 2.0" border -- that would be a load of crock.

Actually, if Syria is partitioned and this is accepted by Russia then I'll know we were all being played, i.e. Russia is another (((satrapy))).

What follows is also an amateur attempt to prepare some psychological tools of argument just in case Russia really does betray Syria and posters pop up to defend such a betrayal.

West of the Euphrates

"Moscow said it would treat any plane from the US-led coalition flying west of the Euphrates river as a potential target"

I hope the Russian Federation is only referring to operational matters and not to a long-term policy, i.e. a partitioning of Syria. Is Russia preparing our minds for a Syrian Kurdistan?

Russia states it is fighting to defend Syria to prevent it falling to "terrorists" (i.e. Zionist proxies) who will use it as a base to attack Russia. If Israel 2.0 pops up "East of the Euphrates" you can betcha' it will be another breeding ground for such "terrorists". Any acceptance by Russia of a partitioned Syria will contradict its stated aim of its intervention in Syria. Russia surely knows that these "terrorists" are US mercenaries; just as it surely knows that the Kurdish YPG/SDF forces are similar US proxies. ISIS cleared the way for a Kurdish "Syria-East-of-the-Euphrates"; this is why ISIS always moves when the Kurds show up.

The elephant in this particular room is always Israel -- a pacyderm brandishing a document in its trunk called "Oded Yinon". Thus any acceptance of a partitioned Syria is defacto a Zionist action. Nothing more needs to be said on this bleedin' obvious point.

The real sophists will try to defend any Russian collusion in partition with the cry that "Russia could not prevent it; besides Russia was only defending its own interests, not Syria's". We can dismiss the second part of that lie by referring the sophist back to the Russia's stated intent, i.e. defending Syria is defending Russia. The first part is far harder to dismiss and that is the door through which a deluge of apologism for Russia will flood the forums (if the Russian Federation does indeed endorse partition).

How to pre-empt the sophistry of the first part? I really don't know. Russia has potent allies in the region, such as the SAA, Iran and Hezbollah -- surely Russia could easily lead these forces to victory over the Zionist headchoppers? I really can't buy the argument that the Zionists are invincible, not on the field of battle at any rate. Also note that Russia has always fought 2 steps forward and then one step back, e.g. the partial stand-down order, the recurrent ceasefires. Of course the sophist will then argue that this is all part of a clever propaganda campaign.

Stating you are only going to defend Syria "West of the Euphrates" sounds like a boon to the Kurds; and could be a piece of sophistry from Russia designed to fool the rest of us.

The moves on the ground in Syria, once done, will be nearly impossible to take back- This is how the US with the PKK/YPG fixed the game in their favour- what's that saying about possession

" Possession is nine-tenths of the law" is an expression meaning that ownership is easier to maintain if one has possession of something, or difficult to enforce if one does not.

The US and the Kurds already have possession of Syrian territory- they annexed it quickly and the US immediately built multiple bases to ensure their thugs hold it.

Taking it back will be hell- if possible at allThat is a certainty- I'm not sure that it indicates duplicity for any one party- This remake of the region has been a long, long time coming- One could say it was planned as WW2 ended- All the seeds were planted

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