Bite thread is bite thread. ANyway just tell me how is Hades going to survive Surfer creating black hole in his head ? Surfer wins this.

Holy crap!!! the surfer can do that!!! I new he was powerful but I didn't know he could create Black holes inside people!!! you think you can show me when he did it... or performing something similar?? I would like to see that!! (even tho I don't like the surfer) if not is cool!!

Bite thread is bite thread. ANyway just tell me how is Hades going to survive Surfer creating black hole in his head ? Surfer wins this.

Holy crap!!! the surfer can do that!!! I new he was powerful but I didn't know he could create Black holes inside people!!! you think you can show me when he did it... or performing something similar?? I would like to see that!! (even tho I don't like the surfer) if not is cool!!

Here Surfer states he can create black hole in somebody's head (actually in eyes) and some other crazy stuff

Well you might ask if he can create black hole actually if he has done such thing so far. Here is the answer:

You can find all of his greates feats there. Just for the record, Silver Surfer can do ANYTHING EVERY SAINT SEIYA(INCLUDING ALL OF THE MANGAS) CHARACTER DID SO FAR AND CAN DO MUCH MORE. You'll see yourself when you check the respect thread. I'm to lazy to post his entire power set (which is too long) and I did that already. Worthy mentioning are: chenling energies of Big Crunch and time manipulation powers. Also for comparioson:

- Hades was atempting to align the planets in solar system. Feat took hours to be acomplished and failed to do it. So far it's the best feat done in every Saint Seiya instaltment.

- Silver Surfer, Quasar and Ronan rearanged entire solar system, created another star and merged that star with old star of the system creating the binary star. All of that was done practicly in moments and as a feat is far better than what Hades tried to acomplish. You got scans of this feat in respect thread.

P.S. Do you know that Surfer can also fight inside black hole and is totaly uneffected by it's infinite gravity atraction ? In other words black hole can't suck him unless he alows it. I can post the scans if you want.

@TheVectorPrime: Crossing a hyper dimension said to be the size of a universe, defeating two minor Gods who could cast people into eternal slumber or snipe someone from across two universes away in what seemed like minutes, and cracking Hades kamui which is impressive considering the Kamui are at a universal level.

@TheVectorPrime: Crossing a hyper dimension said to be the size of a universe, defeating two minor Gods who could cast people into eternal slumber or snipe someone from across two universes away in what seemed like minutes, and cracking Hades kamui which is impressive considering the Kamui are at a universal level.

First of all Hyperdimension was about 10 000 000 000 miles long (both English and Japanese scans state that) it was never been stated to be the size of the universe. Second Hyperdimension is a wormhole so they were being also sucked to Elysion (I posted a scans of this). Third we don't know how long it took them to cross it. Fourth it's a traveling speed feat. Surfer has feat of 500 000 lightyears in seconds and crossing entire universe with hyperspace.

Casting someon in eternal slumber is something even Surfer can do. Snipe someone from 2 universes - I already explained that feat. But I'm gonna do that again. I posted a scan of Thanatos stating that Seiya's sister Seika is only several lightyears away from him and not 2 universes away. That also proves that Hyperdimension is no where near universal size. Fact is Thanatos was in Elysion and Seika on Earth. They were separated by Underworld and Hyperdimension, both which are no where near universal size (there is a scan which shows the size of Uniderworld) and are missused for famous "two universes far away feat" - which by the way didn't happen and you're stating that it happened (bolded part) which implicates that you didn't read Hades arc (and even entire manga) and yet you post in case of it. Even if you meant of Thanatos killing Pandora, again it's wrong since Pandora was in the Underworld which is separated from Elysion by Hyperdimension.

Show me evidance that Hades's Kamui has universal durability ? I want a statement in the manga about it. If you don't I'm considering you lied to me and others.

I'm to lazy to repost the scans I mentioned above, but if you insist I'll do it. Anyway you can check "Janemba vs Hades OM Sonata come here" thread, I posted them there.

By the way I want you to post me a single feat from SS manga which is above what Silver Surfer did.

@TheVectorPrime: Do you know who would give a good fight against the gods of SS? Meet the kami ancient gods of the earth much more powerful than kamisama:

although we do not see them showing up much in the universe of DB manga, they appear more fillers in DBZ, showing which are powerful version filler they are able to kill someone like freeza 2ª form, as they did with kamisama that was a bit par with the level of piccolo, you kaio said a kami was responsible for the destruction of planet vegeta, although we know that this is no truth, more give a sense of how they are strong.

Even the canon version of the kami, and yet very powerful, after all they have created ROSAT, which second trunks and a dimension without end.

If we go by the logic of the OBD that puts the SS with multiversal because of hyperdimension, then the kami are multiversal.