help a brother out

I'm thinking about getting a pair of APC English jeans, but the only place I can find in Chicago that carries APC only carries their outerwear (said it took them a year to sell the jeans when they did have them), so I'd have to order them online. Anybody who owns this cut want to measure something for me? I want to know the length from the top of the waistband, down through the butt seam, to the end of that seam on the bottom of the crotch where all the seams meet... and the length from the top of the waistband, down through the fly, to the end of that same seam. It would be a jolly good dose of good karma. This'll be the first time I'm paying retail for a pair of jeans in a long time, and I don't want to mess it up like I always seem to do.

Yeah - it is cut so that the rise in the front and in the back is the same.

Wait, really? Can somebody confirm this? That seems weird, but if it's true I might try it. A 10.5 inch front rise is too high with a regular 15-or-so inch rear rise, but if it's a 10.5 inch rear rise it might work. I'm having trouble picturing how jeans could be cut that way, though.

Yeah - it is cut so that the rise in the front and in the back is the same.

Ken, Not exactly. There is actually a little bit of a bias. While the jeans The back of the jeans don't have an extremely contoured waistband like Paper Denims, for example, the back is still a little higher (maybe an inch or so) higher than the front.

LA Guy, check out the new APC jeans on the web page. There are now "Rescue Jeans" (on the Japanese website, they're called "Boot Leg jeans," if this says anything), which look very interesting, as well as men's and women's tight jeans.

I wonder why they don't have the new models yet on the international/european site. If I need to order a new tight men's jeans from APC it has to be from the international site, because the others don't ship internationally.

I am really digging the Rescue jean. One of my beefs about the Standards were that they were a little too tapered and high rise for me. These might be my next jeans purchase... BTW, is it just me, or are the new standards huge. I tried on a pair of 32s a few days ago, and they were pretty much falling off. I am a 33 in Sevens and the old Standards (though they were loose, I could easily have gone with a 32), and 32 in Paper Denims, but a pair of 31 in the new standard would be loose in the waist on me.

I am really digging the Rescue jean. One of my beefs about the Standards were that they were a little too tapered and high rise for me. These might be my next jeans purchase... BTW, is it just me, or are the new standards huge. I tried on a pair of 32s a few days ago, and they were pretty much falling off. I am a 33 in Sevens and the old Standards (though they were loose, I could easily have gone with a 32), and 32 in Paper Denims, but a pair of 31 in the new standard would be loose in the waist on me.

Thanks for the warning on the new standards, then. I'm with you on the rescue jeans, they may very well be my next jean purchase. I'm still lusting for the Studio D'Artisan SD-103XX jeans, but I may save that for when I go to Japan (whenever that happens), this way I dont have to hassle some Japanese kid into shipping them to me and I get to try them on before hand

are the new standards huge. I tried on a pair of 32s a few days ago, and they were pretty much falling off.

Is it just me or it seems that every pair of APC raw denim, irrespective of the model, is cut large around the waist? Just want to direct two questions to those who have ordered from APC website. 1) Does it provide shipping free of charge 2) Taking the currency x-rate into account, it seems much cheaper to make the payment in USD(e.g. Rescue Jeans 110 EU/120USD), so what's the catch? I have easy access to 3 official APC stores nearby, but a recent 45% price hike in price of the jeans deter me from buying there. Only the English Cut is available at the old price, so maybe it's true that it will be discontinued.

I checked out APC this weekend. The price of all their jeans are $120. They also had a cool poster up explaining all the ways to treat raw-denim jeans to get different effects. Whatever you do, don't get the "tight" model jeans. They are really TIGHT. Like, Ramones tight. You won't be able to breath or have kids.