Suppose i were to watch the movie and just forward it, where do i stop for these scenes

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And when a foreign female photographer walks in short clothes , the sex starved villagers openly stare lustfully at her dreaming of forcing sex on her and imagining her to be a porn star .

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Ahh.....the daughter ( named Kesar ) of the chieftain of the enemy village played by actress Kirti Kulhari---she is worth a watch , especially because she exposes her lovely delicate flesh for all to see in a couple of sensuous scenes of bathing and lovemaking .

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Even the media which is neck deep into secularism had not dared to create a hero out if him , which is why I had never heard of him....

Yet the director keeps the tall ambition of painting Shahid as a hero---as a man who stood out for the rights of those who were wrongfully accused of terrorism without caring for his own life....

Problem is , by the movie's own admission Shahid's own past was not anything to be proud about....

He is shown to have been affected by the Bombay riots of 1993 and gone to POK ( Pakistan occupied Kashmir ) to train for jihad .

Now this itself raises controversy in my mind as to how come such a person can be treated as a hero .
question is , why did he go to POK to train for jihad....??

Did he lose any family member in the riots ?? Any near and dear ones ??
At least the movie does not show any such thing....
I would like to ask the director---did those muslims who lost their family members in riots all turn to terrorism ??
The answer is , most of them didn't....
Then why did Shahid , who didn't lose any family member in riots ??

Then how can the director justify Shahid's stint in a jihadi camp in POK ??

Similarly , may hindus are illtreated and subjected physical humiliation in Pak....
How many of them have turned to terrorism against Pakistan ?? Answer is---practically nobody....

Then how can Shahid's stint as a trainee jihadi in POK be treated as ' natural reaction ' to Bombay riots ??

The director wants us to pull off the amazing feat of believing that a would be jihadi is some kind of hero here in India....

Of course , Shahid remains only a would be jihadi....
He becomes disillusioned with the brutality of the training in POK and returns home to India....

Here the police is waiting for him and not only arrests him but also gives him the treatment reserved for jihadis . He is stripped naked and beaten .

Once again , the director makes the perfidy of wanting us to believe that this is a grave injustice , that he is being singled out because he is a muslim....

Tell me , what else do you expect if you go to Pakistani controlled jihadi training camps in POK ?? To be welcomed back in India with garlands of flowers ??

Then he is misled into signing a confession that he was involved in a terror plot , for which he has to spend years in Tihar jail....

Here he is again tried to be co opted for jihad by terrorists serving time in jail , but is saved by a former jihadi who himself was disillusioned by the jihad and who prevents Shahid from turning again to terrorism....

Instead he is encouraged to take up studies and becomes a lawyer....

The very fact that such a person with such a tainted past is eventually released from jail is testament to the fact that India has an impartial justice system , otherwise how could a former wannabe jihadi be set free by the courts ?? Yet the director acknowledges this fact only grudgingly , making one of the characters say that the justice system does work in India though it works only late....

Shahid Azmi takes up the opportunity to practice as a lawyer , where he is honest enough to refuse to take up cases of people who are real criminals---which costs him his job with a prominent lawyer....

His personal life is a major component of the movie , with his courtship with his wife Mariam leading to marriage . But the marriage turns upside down because he begins to get death threats due to the dangerous work he has undertaken lately....

So what is that dangerous work ?? It's that of taking up cases of people accused of terrorism against India....

Shahid proves to be a brilliant lawyer who is hard to beat in a courtroom debate , and the courtroom debates are filmed brilliantly....
The actor playing Shahid ( Rajkumar Yadav ) has acted all too well putting his heart and soul into getting into the skin of the character he is playing .

To be honest , the real life Shahid looks better than the actor playing him , but Raj kumar has compensated for his lack of looks by his superb acting , which may fetch him awards....

It is his high acquittal rate of those accused of terrorism which turns him into a hero , at least for some....

But he angers powerful people by taking up cases of those accused of being involved in the 2008 Mumbai terror attacks and as he begins to get death threats his wife leaves him....
His face is blackened by chauvinists...

Shahid is leading a very dangerous and charmed life....

So what will happen to him...??

To me the bigger question was , is he the hero that the director of the film has tried to make him out to be ?? Considering his past and considering the fact that he fought cases for the people of his own community , that is somewhat of a tall order....

Of course , at least some for whom he fought were declared innocent by the courts . So maybe he really fought for those he believed to be innocent....
And he didnt care about his life or his marriage in his pursuit of saving those people....
You certainly have to admit he had courage of conviction....

But a hero ?? That is for you to decide...to each his own.....

And like him or dislike him , you cannot ignore Shahid Azmi---not after this film , for it's that good....

Docji, though i bit, long, i liked your review on Shahid. This looks another movie, where you liked it but did not agree.
Now, The main guy wants to say goodbye to Yadav Raj and has named himself Rajkkumar Rao. Why not call him by his adopted name.

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That's what Julian Assange is probably feeling when Wikileaks is shaking governments around the globe....

He and Daniel Domscheit-Berg begin to work on Wikileaks , a website for sharing classified information which is not normally accessible to the common man and whose sources are kept anonymous....

....And they hit paydirt as they expose the illegal activities of a bank....

They discover to their joy that the law is on their side as the court dissolves the injunction they bank has obtained on their website and their website , which had disappeared miraculously appears back on the internet due to the dissolution of the injunction....

The pair have tasted first blood....

But Daniel Domscheit-Berg is in for a shocker when he wants to have a success party with the ' many ' people who work for the site and discovers that those people are nothing but dupe IDs created by Julian Assange himself....

The two are in it alone....

This is the first of Assange's secrets to tumble out , and others come out later too---like the fact that he deliberately whitens his hair due to his involvement in a cult , and the fact that he had a traumatic childhood....

But Assange is best at leaking others' secrets out , and he and Daniel Domscheit-Berg do team up again ( inspite of Domscheit-Berg 's misgivings about Assange ) to expose other people---like Sarah Palin's Yahoo account and leaking membership of the British national party....

And as Daniel Domscheit-Berg loses his job and his and his girlfriend's relationship begins to fray as Assange's constant presence interferes in their privacy , he finds his destiny interlinked with wikileaks....

But is wikileaks a really noble enterprise ??
Does Assange that brave man who wants to bring revolution ??
Or is he a conman who wants to satisfy his huge ego by having the power to expose people and shake governments ??

What in undeniable is the fact that he has created a fifth estate---an alternative to the fourth estate , as the press likes to call itself....

But his leaking of sensitive information has irked some powerful people around the globe , and massively so....
Assange and Daniel Domscheit-Berg are constantly under surveillance by people employed by these powerful people....

And Julian Assange very obviously enjoys the limelight that this bring him in....

But does Julian Assange's and Daniel Domscheit-Berg's relationship strengthen or weaken over time ??

And what will happen when they expose information that can get people in danger....??

Matters between Assange and Domscheit-Berg come to a brink as they have huge differences when it's time to release thousands of documents that the United States government has kept classified....and when a US controlled spy in the middle east has to be hurriedly evacuated as he is about to be exposed....

So how long will the good times last ??---for all good ( is what Assange is doing can be called really good ?? ) things come to an end....

But till they last , we get to see some real life ( as opposed to reel life ) excitement that creates waves around the world and makes Assange a hero for many people....

Sadly , we learn in the movie that some intrepid journalists who used to expose parliamentary secrets were hanged for their bravery in the past....

I went to see this film because from the promos I gathered that it touches a topic that is important to young people ; a topic that was always on the mind when I was in the twenties---that of parental opposition to marriage between two young people who decide to marry , and elopement as a solution to this problem .

And what if the parents are powerful people who can bring enormous resources to bear against such elopement ?? What does the couple do then ??

The pundits of the art of elopement ( yeah ,there are pundits in every field ) say that in such cases the couple in question has to have three Ms---money power , muscle power and manpower.....

.....And all three come only if you have loyal friends....friends who are ready to take the risk of fighting and getting injured if a physical battle occurs , friends who are ready to risk police trouble if it comes to that , friends who are as steady as a rock....

Rishi is such a friend.....

So when his friend comes from Lalitpur to Mumbai to ask for help to get his girlfriend to him against both parents' opposition , Rishi is everready.....

And help comes from Rishi's bosom buddies who are ready to risk life and limb help a couple in love.....

Trouble is---Rishi is Rangrezz....or at least the director behind the creation of Rishi's character is.....

So what does Rangrezz mean ??

Google search revealed only that it means a person who dyes clothes---that is , gives colour ( rang ) to clothes.....

But if you see the film you feel that rangrezz means someone whose approach to the question of elopement has the fanaticism of a desperado.....

And Rishi is certainly one such person....

As the elopement unfolds in front of your eyes you feel that you see a bunch of ' love fanatics ' in action.....

Nothing will stop them from running away with the girl---yeah nothing....
No obstacle is too great.....

Big metal pipes are used to hit them till one of them becomes deaf due to the blows , a truck runs over the leg of another one of them , and goons are sent to kill another's grandmother......
Yet behold the chutzpah of our young heroes---they still elope with the girl.....

The sequence of the elopement forms a visually spectacular treat and is the high point of the film....
Full marks to the director and above all to the cinematographer for filming this brilliantly......

The actors playing Rishi and his friends act well and inject real zest and madness in their roles....

But at the end of all this comes betrayal---a betrayal that hits like a cold shower in the hot steam of true friendship....

So who betrays whom ???

Go and watch the film for that.....

At the end you feel that the whole concept of friends going to any length to help out the lover couple is a bit overdone.....
It is unlikely to get friends who make such sacrifices in real life , and the whole thing is unrealistic....

And as the film nears its climax , it becomes disappointing.....

Of course , it is a ' different ' film , one with its own unique take on love and elopement---you have to give that to the director.....

But it offers a grim lesson to those who want to help people in love....
....And the method of teaching this lesson was not to my liking.....

Above all , its a film that is disappointing for those who believe in true love---like I do....

America in the nineteen nineties.....At the top of the world as it was still enjoying its victory in the cold war.....
.......An innocent time when it was a genuinely free society without the encumbrances of security checks everywhere.....
And above all at the peak of economic prosperity and confidence.....

New York in the nineteen nineties.....Heading towards becoming a real melting pot where people of diverse races and cultures lived with each other---christians and jews and muslims and hindus and sikhs and caucasians and blacks and hispanics and asians.....
And New York was....is the economic centerpiece of America.....

And towering over New York were the Twin towers of the World trade center---elegant as well as brute symbols of America's economic dominance over the world......

Men and women dreamt of working in or near the Twin towers of New York city---for working here meant that you had arrived.....

And then they came down at the start of the twenty first century---destroyed by the most astonishing and devastating terrorist attack on any urban center in the world.....

And lives changed after that.....America changed.....
America's perception of the religion of those who had brought down the Twin towers changed too.....

The hero of the this film ( played by Riz Ahmed ) belongs to that religion---yes he is muslim.....and a Pakistani to boot.....

Riz is is one of those whom Tom Wolfe so famously called ' Masters of the universe ' in his acclaimed novel ' Bonfire of the vanities '.......
Yeah , he has achieved his dream of working at a top position at the firm Underwood Samson in New York.....
And he has a white girlfriend.....
He thinks he's made it.....

......Until it all comes down---thats is , until the towers come down.....

And here he is---sitting in Lahore in Pakistan telling his life story to an American journalist who's come to give a patient hearing to his twisted tale......
The journalist has come to hear as well as record Riz's tale because he is now purported to be a fundamentalist.....
All this is happening under the shadow of the kidnapping of an American professor in Lahore---so times are grim.....

Its upto Changez Khan ( thats Riz's name in the movie and no , he's no mongol emperor ) to convince the American reporter that he may be a fundamentalist but he's a reluctant one---the reluctant fundamentalist.....

So what does the term ' reluctant fundamentalist ' mean ??
It means that he's been forced to become a fundamentalist by circumstances , by people's , by America's behavior towards him---especially after the 9/11 attacks.....

So does he manage to convince the American journalist that he is a fundamentalist of the reluctant variety ??

Go and watch the movie for that.....

The more important matter is----did he manage to convince the audience watching the movie that he is a reluctant fundamentalist ??

This I can answer only for myself.....

And the answer is that at least I wasn't fully convinced.....

Agreed , some of the humiliation Changez had to undergo as America became suspicious of muslims does not make nice viewing.....
He is repeatedly singled out for security checks and on one occasion is forced to strip naked in front of policemen.....
And he becomes a target for minor hate attacks....
Even his girlfriend betrays his trust.....

Agreed with all that.....agreed.....

But would the Pakistanis have behaved less paranoically had their country been attacked by outsiders in a brutal terrorist attack ?? Would their behavior towards the people of the attackers' religion been any different than the Americans' behavior ?? Would Changez behave in a different manner than Americans did with outsiders if his country was attacked by their people ??

And why does Changez have to become a fundamentalist ( however reluctant that fundamentalism may have been ) because America was was not good to him ??
Why does he have to grow a ' fundamentalist ' beard ?? Is it compulsory for people ill treated by America to grow a beard ??

OK , if he does not feel comfortable in America he can go back to Pakistan---but why cant he live a secular life there ?? What is the need for Changez to come close to religion even if America was not good to him ??
For example if an Indian or Chinese or Korean suffers racism in America , then that does not mean he comes close to his religion does he.....

In my opinion these Pakistanis use any excuse to turn to their favourite haunt---religion.....

Its to the credit of the character of Changez that he does not let his fundamentalism divert into terrorism---for his experience as an evaluator has given him enough brains to figure out the sinister aims of those who want to recruit him for terror and refuse them.....

The movie unfolds as a series of flashbacks as Changez tells the American journalist his story and becomes more gripping as it becomes interconnected with the fate of the kidnapped American professsor.....

And aquires the properties of a thriller as it becomes intense and Changez reveals that he knows who the American journalist really is.....

Mohsin Hamid's novel has been well adapted on the screen using several Indian actors like Shabana Azmi and Om Puri who play Changez' parents , and the atmosphere of and contrast between New York and Lahore has been well created .

Yeh kaisa review likha hai? You didn't even mention the movie is directed by the famous Mira Nair.

I watched this movie reluctant fundamentalist, may be on Netflix I think. I would not rate it good, average and dragging at times, trying too hard to justify injustice to rop post 9/11. Ab gehu pise to ghun bhi pista hi hai.. what's the big deal.

Kate Hudson post pregnancy looks like the Puki's MILF, puffy eyes and all that.. shown to be a crazy emotional bitch. Kiefer Sutherland in an average movie like this.. no way. I hate the now common way of presenting such stories.. he is having an interview in his den and tells his story to the negotiator, so it goes from past to present so many times.

Rather than calling it ' Rise of the zombie ' this film should rather be called ' Fall of the human ' to animal like status .Or maybe it should be called ' Rise of the animal ' .

Yeah ,thats what the zombie in this film does---fall from its human status and start acting like an animal.....
......And that too become a carnivorous rather than herbivorous animal and start attacking people and eating their flesh after going for their jugular in true carnivore style---only the cameramen from National Geographic and Discovery channel were missing for filming this.....

Thats totally different from what I had heard about zombies---that they are dead people whose bodies have been taken over by voodoo practitioners , and who are being made to do what they want.....

OF course , the real truth is said to be that the so called ' zombies ' are actually drugged people who are not dead but alive....

If that is true , then the film comes slightly closer to the truth , in the sense that a live person is doing something under the influence of something injected in his body.....

And who is this live person ??

He is Neil Parker played by Luke Kenny , who has a passion for nature photography.....
......And his passion for nature photography outclasses his passion for his goodlooking girlfriend ( played by Kirti Kulhari ) to the point that she gets totally annoyed and breaks up with him for neglecting her ( somebody give me her phone number please , for I am interested in satisfying the emotional needs and physical wants of such bored and neglected girls with priority given to the physical wants:lol: )......

So he stupidly goes back frustrated to the himalayan jungle of what seems to be Sikkim instead of being smart and trying to cajole back his girlfriend ( good for my chances with her.... )......

Here something bites him---though what bites him is not shown....
Now when will that be shown ?? Wait for part two of the film , presumably.....now WTF !!

As his wound becomes covered by blisters and becomes worse , the point arises in the mind---why does he not see a doctor instead of covering up his wound whenever anybody approaches him.....??
This from a person whose father and best friend are doctors....!!

Who cares , its a stupid film anyway.....

The bite has injected something into him that converts him from a fun loving person who dances with foreign dancers on his lap at sports bar in Malad in Mumbai ( are there really phirangee dancers who cavort on clients' laps in Mumbai bars ?? I want to go to to Malad right now---thinking of keeping the review incomplete ) to a flesh eating zombie.....

So what happens to the zombie ?? watch that in part two that is going to come in 2014.....
......For the director is crazy enough to think that we will wait with bated breath till 2014 to see this zombiehood spread in the whole land---the next part is called ' Land of the zombie '......

While watching the film I felt that---forget to wait till 2014.....
.....I should not even have waited till 2013---the end of the world predicted in 2012 should have happened , so that I would have been spared the pain of watching this film.....

Today---or should I say tonight---I decided to give myself a hair raising experience.....

.....Decided to watch a horror movie alone in the late evening ( from 8.30 PM onwards on enter10 channel) when everyone else was out of the house.....

.....And to double the fun that comes from fear I decided to watch it with every window and door of the house closed and every light off.....

And boy !!! You see an ordinary movie become a fear raising experience in such conditions....

As the screen darkens and the horror in the movie starts and shadows begin to play on the walls then the mind comes alive.....

Yeah alive.....alive to every small sound coming from dark corners of the house.....

Every gust of wind hitting the window chills the senses....

A feeling of impending doom and danger clouds the thinking....

You constantly look behind to see if anything is standing behind you....

Ordinary sounds you would ignore at other times grab your attention and fill you with apprehension.....

Unlike in a movie theater there is no one to reach out to when something terrifying happens on screen.....

All stuff that doubles the entertainment.....

So on to the plot of the movie.....

A film crew moves into the jungle to shoot a film....

The hero of the film being shot is a super haughty guy named Kapoor ( forgot the first name ) who constantly shouts and berates everybody showing off the his star status at every opportunity.....

So that confirms one thing.....he may be the hero of the film being shot in the movie , but he's not the hero of the movie

In fact his insufferable temper is more likely to make him main villain....

But in fact he's not that too....

The main villain is in fact the mysterious power that controls the forest---agyaat, the unknown.....

As the crew lands in the forest , the guide suggests that the shooting of the film be done in a spot of scenic beauty deep into the core of the forest....

He's a strange one , this guide....looks in a strange way and speaks even strangely.....

Yet the homo sounding director of the film ( Ram Gopal Verma never fails to take potshots at Karan Johar does he ?? ) agrees to go with the guide....

So off they go---deep inside the forest , in the realms of agyaat the unknown....

The first to be bumped off is the guide , at the scenic spot where the shooting was to take place.....

As everyone screams and howls in terror , the differences in status slowly begin to unravel.....people who are underlings begin to shout at the hero of the film being shot without caring for his star status.....

And relationships begin to reveal themselves---the real hero of the movie ( assistant director of the film being shot ) confesses his love for the heroine of the film ( who is also heroine of the movie ) the role of whom is played by the sexy Nisha Kothari....

....But before that , a girl from the unit reveals her love for the assistant director....

But it is a hell of a time to fall in love.....

.....For with the death of the guide the only person knowing the way out of the forest is gone....

And the unit is receiving daily doses of horror---they encounter a hot spring oozing blood instead of water and hear sounds all around them that fills them with terror....

And as one by one each one of them is dragged to death by the unknown powers their numbers begin to dwindle and the remaining members fight between themselves.....

So who will come out of the forest alive ?? And who will not ??

Watch the movie for the answers....

As far as I am concerned , the other members of my house are back and the fun filled night of horror is over---I have survived....

Next stop ?? watching a horror movie in a cemetary at night ?? Naah---not gonna push my luck ; better quit while you are ahead....

In such a matter, age doesn't matter. After watching a horror movie, I ensure that my legs do not hang loose over the bed... and that they are well tucked inside the blanket... no gaps anywhere, kya pata kya ghus jaaye

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