Just out of curiosity, will the FPG differ at all in 2013? I've noticed that my favorite retailer is no longer listing the FPG as in stock, and the gun is "preorder only" for 01/2013. Normally I'd think this would be a stocking issue, but I noticed that the MSRP was $310 instead of the $295 I purchased my own for from the same retailer.

Is this due to a possible internals change or merely an economical/stocking issue?

Just out of curiosity, will the FPG differ at all in 2013? I've noticed that my favorite retailer is no longer listing the FPG as in stock, and the gun is "preorder only" for 01/2013. Normally I'd think this would be a stocking issue, but I noticed that the MSRP was $310 instead of the $295 I purchased my own for from the same retailer.

Is this due to a possible internals change or merely an economical/stocking issue?

I heard that it got discontinued, might just be a rumor, but who knows?

Neither is any of the HK stuff. Umarex does HK stuff so its no longer on KWA's site. Magpul PTS is in control of the FPG and future MASADA (!). KWA OEMs it. Im pretty sure it's not on their site cause its an OEM they do, not their own product.

Neither is any of the HK stuff. Umarex does HK stuff so its no longer on KWA's site. Magpul PTS is in control of the FPG and future MASADA (!). KWA OEMs it. Im pretty sure it's not on their site cause its an OEM they do, not their own product.

Wait, just found out all of the HK stuff has been discontinued, its safe to say that the FPG is too if its not on the site. Any staff want to pitch in?

No, all the HK stuff is now being distributed by Umarex. The HK products HAVE NOT been discontinued.

They have always been distributed to Umarex, then Umarex does what they want with them.

Straight from watermelon,
"Regrettably, due to reasons beyond KWA's control, KWA no longer distributes H&K licensed products. That is why the G36C, MP7, and HK45 are no longer listed on KWA USA's website."

Umarex makes more money off of springers and not enough off of "expensive" KWAs. Umarex is the only place that holds the liscening. If you dont work through Umarex you can't get trademarks. And starting earlier this month, no un-licensed HK airsoft guns can be sold in the US. If KWA lost their deal with Umarex, the guns can't be sold here anymore, period.

They have always been distributed to Umarex, then Umarex does what they want with them.

Straight from watermelon,
"Regrettably, due to reasons beyond KWA's control, KWA no longer DISTRIBUTES H&K licensed products. That is why the G36C, MP7, and HK45 are no longer listed on KWA USA's website."

Umarex makes more money off of springers and not enough off of "expensive" KWAs. Umarex is the only place that holds the liscening. If you dont work through Umarex you can't get trademarks. And starting earlier this month, no un-licensed HK airsoft guns can be sold in the US. If KWA lost their deal with Umarex, the guns can't be sold here anymore, period.

Outlaw has asked the Helpdesk and they CONFIRMED that KWA is done. No more HK guns or even magazines. However, customer service will still exist, but they cannot make anything new that resembles an HK product. They can service existing stuff but thats it. End of story, good night.