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It's actually a little more than that. When you sign up for a Google account, you have to make a Gmail account, and a Google+ profile is created along the way.

Problem here is that some may not realise that they have a public profile now.

Right, a profile with nothing on it.

I have several Gmails but only one Google+ account. Now when I log in under my other gmails, it suggests, "oh, join the hottest new social platform by adding details here." but it doesn't appear to force me to have duplicate G+ accounts.

It's still forcing you to have a Google+ account, and any defending it is pretty ridiculous.

Their platform is failing, so they're using their other areas to strongarm people into it. MS got into serious crap by utilizing their lock on OS systems to pump up IE and Office, I don't see much of a difference here.

For new Google accounts. And they're getting you to join Gmail and Google+.

And I don't really see this as evidence of their platform failing. It might not have the amount of usage they'd like, but I'm pretty sure it isn't failing. They're getting high profile sign-ups like Lady Gaga happening, and activity certainly picked up amongst my own circles and the journo peeps I'm following with the whole SOPA/PIPA thing.

Besides, if you see this as being indicative of G+ failing, what does that say for Gmail?

It's still forcing you to have a Google+ account, and any defending it is pretty ridiculous.

Their platform is failing, so they're using their other areas to strongarm people into it. MS got into serious crap by utilizing their lock on OS systems to pump up IE and Office, I don't see much of a difference here.

Are we using a different Google+? The one I'm using is far from failing. Plenty of activity.

It's still forcing you to have a Google+ account, and any defending it is pretty ridiculous.

Their platform is failing, so they're using their other areas to strongarm people into it. MS got into serious crap by utilizing their lock on OS systems to pump up IE and Office, I don't see much of a difference here.

Are we using a different Google+? The one I'm using is far from failing. Plenty of activity.

The whole line about 90M users with 60-80% activity is a red herring. 60-80% of Google+ users use Google services, even the search engine, and they completely leave out the number of active users on G+.

We don't really need competition in the social network arena. Time will kill Facebook, just like Friendster, Myspace, and all the other stuff that became outdated.

If you want to know about Google+'s real world activity, go outside of your friend circle and click on some product pages. Ghost towns. Mountain Dew has 210 in user circles, and Facebook has almost 7 million.

We don't really need competition in the social network arena. Time will kill Facebook, just like Friendster, Myspace, and all the other stuff that became outdated.

Well, that's a silly and simplistic viewpoint. I don't use Google+ to "kill Facebook". I use it because I prefer it to Facebook, and I know a lot of people who prefer G+ to Fb, but use both. Or they use both and prefer Fb. Or they use both and don't really have a preference.