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Posts in forums of the site "Mahjong Wiki (麻将维基)"Tue, 14 Aug 2018 23:50:48 +0000http://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-43896#post-2437972Re: Read before posting!http://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-43896/read-before-posting#post-2437972
Mon, 11 Jan 2016 19:10:00 +0000Mahjong Queen2429038
Can anyone tell me…I play hong kong mahjong new style. when you are adding up your fan after going mahjong if you get "all Types & all Pungs" which both score 3 fan do you add them together to make 6 fan?

So basically do you double up like you can with most of the chow hands?

Forum category: Mahjong Wiki Discussion / MJ WikiForum thread: Read before posting!
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http://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-255266#post-2120674Re: Video Gameshttp://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-255266/video-games#post-2120674
Sun, 28 Sep 2014 22:45:40 +0000Pringer1986011
The Super Real Mahjong series is an Eroge so I went ahead and removed them from the list, if someone feels they need to be added back to it they can Forum category: Mahjong Wiki Discussion / NewsForum thread: Video Games
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http://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-1028374#post-2114819Chinese Old Style scoringhttp://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-1028374/chinese-old-style-scoring#post-2114819
Sun, 21 Sep 2014 11:49:20 +0000macoram1967299
Playing Mah Jong since 10 (I'm 51 now) I really love your Wiki: the layout is very compreensive, sistematic and a pleasure to follow. Knowing the western style and chinese old style (note I don't call it "Hong Kong" - I learned it 30 years ago from a colleague from Macao and it's played by many chinese comunities all over the world) fairly well I'd just wanted to offer my two cents…

It seems your only source of info is the Amy Lo book along with the 9 dragons and 4 wind software. There are other books on the subject, mainly Pearlmen & Chan's "The Chinese Game of Mahjong" and Constantino's "Let's Play Mahjong".

The system of scoring is pattern-based and may be categorized in three types: "Fan" type, "Lak" type and "Poon-Lart": - The first one (absent from your pages) is a geometric progression allways doubling score for each Fan: "2-Fan" is the system traditionally used by begginers and for quick (not gambling!) games since it's easy to memorize and apply. Its main problem is that after 5 Fan scores get too big. So, veteran player groups who routinely get higher Fan prefer to use one of the other systems. - The Lak type (1st and 2nd variation in your pages: only one was enough!) uses "steps" in higher Fan (higher then 4 or 5 Fan and groupjng two or three Fan together, depending on the preference) grouping two ou three fans together in order to lower (limit: "Lak") the higher scores. The main criticism is that getting more one or two Fan more in score sometimes doesn't get the rightfull reward (it's a "stepped" progression). - finally the "Poon-Lart" type; it's the used system in most chinese gaming groups (your "3rd variation") and consists in halving ("Poon") some values of the Fan in order to get a less steep progression. Another well-used alternative progression different from the one in your pages is 2-4-8-16-24-32-58-54-96.

Forum category: Mahjong Wiki Discussion / MJ WikiForum thread: Playgroup Directory
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http://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-368607#post-1186224Playgroup Directoryhttp://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-368607/playgroup-directory#post-1186224
Fri, 24 Jun 2011 18:47:00 +0000Torgo431549
Should we add a playgroup directory? Where people play, what the group is called, the URL to their web site, that kind of thing.

Useful or not?

Forum category: Mahjong Wiki Discussion / MJ WikiForum thread: Playgroup Directory
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http://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-346310#post-1117349Interest in a Criticisms Section?http://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-346310/interest-in-a-criticisms-section#post-1117349
Thu, 07 Apr 2011 00:46:05 +0000Torgo431549
No mahjong style is perfect. I thought it might be nice to add a criticisms page to each style to point out the flaws, real and perceived, in each. Does anyone else see value in that? Forum category: Mahjong Wiki Discussion / MJ WikiForum thread: Interest in a Criticisms Section?
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http://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-255266#post-835822Video Gameshttp://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-255266/video-games#post-835822
Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:44:36 +0000tankbot62639
I've added an extensive list of mahjong video games for the handhelds and consoles (excluding PC). I haven't check all the titles so I wouldn't be surprised if there were any solitaire games in this list — sorry! By no means is this a complete list. I basically ran a search for 'mahjong' against several ROM sites for titles and then aggregated them. Forum category: Mahjong Wiki Discussion / NewsForum thread: Video Games
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http://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-251325#post-8213932010-07-02http://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-251325/2010-07-02#post-821393
Sat, 03 Jul 2010 03:17:55 +0000tankbot62639

Forum category: Mahjong Wiki Discussion / Change LogForum thread: 2010-07-02
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http://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-248073#post-809161$1500 World Cup Eventhttp://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-248073/1500-world-cup-event#post-809161
Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:32:10 +0000XIWANGKEFU499874
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Forum category: Mahjong Wiki Discussion / MJ WikiForum thread: $1500 World Cup Event
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http://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-230122#post-736338Simulationshttp://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-230122/simulations#post-736338
Sat, 27 Mar 2010 21:20:42 +0000Torgo431549
I added another table to the wiki. It was my first attempt to find the absolute and relative frequency of all kinds of kong pung opportunities in a game. I hope you'll all take a look at it, give it some thought, and suggest ways it could be improved to make it more useful.Simulations PageForum category: Mahjong Wiki Discussion / NewsForum thread: Simulations
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http://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-227572#post-726217Re: What happened to WSoM?http://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-227572/what-happened-to-wsom#post-726217
Wed, 17 Mar 2010 01:42:43 +0000Torgo431549
OK. Just moved off the top of the front page. Cool. Forum category: Mahjong Wiki Discussion / MJ WikiForum thread: What happened to WSoM?
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http://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-227572#post-726215What happened to WSoM?http://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-227572/what-happened-to-wsom#post-726215
Wed, 17 Mar 2010 01:38:34 +0000Torgo431549
I am a big fan of the Zung Jung scoring system used in the World Series of Mahjong. I've been teaching it to people new to mahjong, and I find they pick it up well and don't find it too intimidating.

* Someone should check my numbers. I wrote a program that actually counts the combinations, but I'm not sure the results are perfect. * More scoring systems could be added to the table. * More scoring patterns can easily be added, and should be easy to work out.

Forum category: Mahjong Wiki Discussion / NewsForum thread: Mahjong Wiki Turns 2!
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http://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-123901#post-367646Happy Lunar New Year!http://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-123901/happy-lunar-new-year#post-367646
Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:04:45 +0000tankbot62639
The upcoming year is the ox, marking Mahjong Wiki being 1 (lunar) years old! I've already seen Hello Kitty 2009 mahjong sets on ebay (although they have it listed as year of the cow???) Anyways, I have a feeling this is a good year for mahjong.

I first launched this site to coincide with the year of the rat (Feb 7, 2008) with a goal to make mahjong more accessible to English-speaking players. A year has gone by and we've made a lot of progress and yet a lot more progress can still be made. I'm still looking for contributors. If you would like to write, edit, translate, or share your love and knowledge of mahjong feel free to join.

Forum category: Mahjong Wiki Discussion / NewsForum thread: Happy Lunar New Year!
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http://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-114695#post-3400662008-12-20http://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-114695/2008-12-20#post-340066
Sun, 21 Dec 2008 02:44:27 +0000tankbot62639
The list of changes on constantly ongoing and updates are made frequently. There won't be an update on every single issue in the change log but I thought I'd post on what's happening just to let everyone know things are in progress. - tankbot

Adding resources links to rule pages

Relocating images to local servers

Renamed Japanese Modern (EMA) to European Riichi

Forum category: Mahjong Wiki Discussion / Change LogForum thread: 2008-12-20
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http://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-95790#post-280736Re: Palecek's proposed changes to the HKOS rules pageshttp://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-95790/palecek-s-proposed-changes-to-the-hkos-rules-pages#post-280736
Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:13:55 +0000tankbot62639
I don't mind changes that would affect all the other rules. I expect several revisions to be made to the format before it's bearable. If you want to implement a change, we just need to make the changes across the board.

Ideally, I'd like all the rules self contained and cut down on the referencing back to the basic rules. It makes no sense to have a beginner who wants to learn a specific type of mahjong have them read two sets of rules (basic and the specific one) in order to play one style. Not to mention how confusing it'll be if they differ a great deal.

I'll admit that I'm guilty of making the dealing, seating, and gameplay sections stripped down versions. That's only because there's a lot of content that can be added and these sections can always be returned to later.

My thought process behind this was that all rules sets would be "self-contained" meaning you shouldn't have to read the whole site to learn how to play this style.

so of course the terminology has to stay. Do you want the terminology in both the overview and gameplay pages like how it is now? I'll flesh out the sections that are lacking, but I'll leave out seating, dealing, and anything explained in the beginner's guide. (Seating and dealing are linked in the overview page. The beginner's guide is mentioned in the gameplay page.)

Second, everything I wrote was specifically for the HKOS pages, but apparently most of the changes I suggested (such as removing or editing sections) would mean that all the other rules pages would get changed too. In that case I won't be editing or removing any sections. I'll just stick the information in whatever section seems appropriate.

As for that 13 Orphans question, it's just a minor hole in the rules. If you don't care about it then I don't care about it.

The other changes in the scoring section are not major. I just reorganized some stuff and removed redundant info.

Categories

In order to setup a category, each page must be named using the following syntax category:page-name. For example, I can create an American:Rules, American:Overview, etc. In order to find all American pages, we can do a System:American page to display all of them.

The downside to this is that mahjong shares similar elements with one another. Take Thirteen Orphans, Nine Gates, All Green. These are common limit hands that belong to more than one category (i.e. appears in World Series, Chinese Official, Japanese Riichi, etc). How would we organize this then? One idea is to leave theses pages un-categorized altogether. The same problem will occur with general mahjong topics and strategy.

Tags

Tags are an easy way to find all pages label with a certain field. This would solve our pages that fit in more than one category. Problem: you'll notice tags are separated by spaces. (Which genius didn't think of comma separated tags?) Thus, we cannot have a "Chinese Official" tag. This is problematic because we have "Chinese Classical", "Japanese Classical", "Japanese Modern", etc. How would the tags distinguish between the two?

Forum category: Mahjong Wiki Discussion / Change LogForum thread: 2008-06-22
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http://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-54492#post-148457New Rules Coming Laterhttp://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-54492/new-rules-coming-later#post-148457
Sat, 19 Apr 2008 05:00:50 +0000tankbot62639
I've gotten a chance to go to the library and pick up a couple of books namely Jelte Rep's The Great Mahjong Book and Shozo Kanai's Mahjong For Beginners. I've been using these along with the 4 Winds MJ knowledge base to create new rules pages. It's a bit difficult because scoring elements for a few of these do not agree with one another and sometimes rules are not specific. I have to infer quite a few things so forgive me in advance if I've stated a few rules wrong. Feel free to add a comments module to a page for discussion. Forum category: Mahjong Wiki Discussion / NewsForum thread: New Rules Coming Later
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http://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-54491#post-1484562008-04-18http://mahjong.wikidot.com/forum/t-54491/2008-04-18#post-148456
Sat, 19 Apr 2008 04:53:10 +0000tankbot62639