Do Police have a right to Murder?

Unless you were referring to livestock attacks on blacks, you were talking about cops there.

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I'm quoting someone else goal, if I said "and they want to send all the nigger back to Africa" I'm speaking of their ideal to the words they use. It is irrelevant: I show plenty of police that do their job heroically in the videos above, but pigs that fuck up and get no punishment is the problem. If they are not slaughtered, peoples trust in police will further degrade, increasing crime and civil tensions, increasing riots and destruction.

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I'm quoting someone else goal, if I said "and they want to send all the nigger back to Africa" I'm speaking of their ideal to the words they use. It is irrelevant: I show plenty of police that do their job heroically in the videos above, but pigs that fuck up and get no punishment is the problem. If they are not slaughtered, peoples trust in police will further degrade, increasing crime and civil tensions, increasing riots and destruction.

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You call cops "pigs" and hope they are slaughtered. Some people call blacks "niggers" and hope they are lynched. (Only the bad ones of course.)

The question in the thread is: do we have that situation, in the US, right now?

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I'd say it's becoming that way, but I'd like to think there are still ''good'' police officers out there who would not abuse their position. I think that's the question really...are cops using their position to abuse others, to abuse the law? To that I'd say, yes, that trend seems to be growing.

If the "right" and the label "murder" are being evaluated in the same terms and context, sure. But here in this thread it's not quite that simple.

Given the authoritarian mindset inherent in police work, coupled with:
1) a propensity or lean toward physical violence, very common and positively correlated, and
2) ingrained racial bigotry, also common and positively correlated in the US

we are no longer necessarily talking about technical, legal, murder, but rather what strikes a decent minded and informed observer not afflicted with the same mental biases, in an informal and generally overall moral and ethical sense, as "that was murder". And the question being: is there, in real life, a significant gap or distinction?

On the one hand: Not justified killing, in that moral/ethical sense. Something a good person, or good police officer, should not have done - seriously, should not have done. "Murder", in that sense, and no "right" to commit it.
On the other: But it's legal, they have the legal and socially accepted, formal and operative, right to have done it. And to do it again, in the future.

The question in the thread is: do we have that situation, in the US, right now?

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1) Support that claim. Demonstrate this supposed positive correlation.
2) Support that claim. Demonstrate this supposed positive correlation.

You mean a "decent minded and informed observer" not under the same pressure of threat, but only playing armchair quarterback?
There are legal procedures and criteria for a "good shoot" and perpetrators of "bad shoots" are routinely prosecuted.

Given the authoritarian mindset inherent in police work, coupled with:
1) a propensity or lean toward physical violence, very common and positively correlated, and
2) ingrained racial bigotry, also common and positively correlated in the US

I have no problem with police killing all the violent, murderous criminals they want. The more the better, I say.

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It is the killing of non-violent normal people that the problem, it is the killing of children holding toy guns that is the the problem, it is the beating of homeless men on the street to death that is the problem, these actions, by PIGS degrades public trust in police, that being one of the foundations of our civilization, this increases the rate of riots and protest that cause destruction and death and at the very least cost cities millions of dollars that the tax payers have to fork out while the PIGS get at best a slap on the wrist.

It is the killing of non-violent normal people that the problem, it is the killing of children holding toy guns that is the the problem, it is the beating of homeless men on the street to death that is the problem, these actions, by PIGS degrades public trust in police, that being one of the foundations of our civilization, this increases the rate of riots and protest that cause destruction and death and at the very least cost cities millions of dollars that the tax payers have to fork out while the PIGS get at best a slap on the wrist.

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Cops should get medals for shooting and killing all the violent, murderous criminals they want. And hefty bonuses, so they are incentivized to kill more.