I loved this show, even though I dislike the Wild West as a setting. I was kind of hoping they'd go outside the park to the modern (future) world. In the first season they had the host with the transmitter in his arm that was being used to exfiltrate data from the park to a satellite. I'd like it if, in the second season, there's a story about trying to keep hosts from escaping the park. They could start it out a bit of a detective story about what that transmitter was all about. They could have a villain who wants to use hosts to achieve his own ends in the real world. The twist is of course that hosts infiltrated human society a long time ago and are doing to humans exactly what humans did to them for so long.

So? Corporation-wise, that means the character can't sue when they use her likeness in a synth. Win-win, and a narrative way to keep the actor in the show.

And, RomanWorld. Dangit, now I want to visit this particular dimension. The thought of waking up in the old west, visiting a far-east duel, and lounging around in the Roman Senate for giggles, that's a world to visit.

And dashed were the hopes of large amount of fanboys for nude Asian girls in Samurai world.

Granted, that would have been a controversy minefield. Imagine a bunch of white folks running around last samurai style, being heroic samurai and having lots of casual sex with Asians. Not to mention casting a bunch of Asian actresses who would be willing to bear it all.

Rome and medieval period is just easier to handle I think. Can pool from the same group of actors/actresses, and at least Rome would already have the justification for lots of sex going on.

I struggled with this show. Maybe more from the tone of it overall. I guess I was disappointed it didn't show the park as a fun place kinda like the original movie before it got into the robots rebelling and becoming sentient and all moody. Didn't Futureworld show a Roman and Midieval world also?

tkgeisha:I struggled with this show. Maybe more from the tone of it overall. I guess I was disappointed it didn't show the park as a fun place kinda like the original movie before it got into the robots rebelling and becoming sentient and all moody. Didn't Futureworld show a Roman and Midieval world also?

Yeah I had the same reaction. Moved too fast into the main plot, it seemed, needed a slower pace, IMO.

Though having an army of Daeneryses (Daenerysi?) and Drogons would be incredible.

I've always assumed that the Westworld world is ours but in the future. I would also assume that the Game of Thrones series is part of the Westworld media/entertainment history because it's part of our entertainment.

Since they are both HBO shows, why not have a GOT world? Maybe for the third season? The GOT cast will have a lot of free time then...

tkgeisha:I struggled with this show. Maybe more from the tone of it overall. I guess I was disappointed it didn't show the park as a fun place kinda like the original movie before it got into the robots rebelling and becoming sentient and all moody. Didn't Futureworld show a Roman and Midieval world also?

Having the humans being jerks made you have empathy for the robots. It also gave them a reason to rise up other than just having a meltdown.

disco ball:tkgeisha: I struggled with this show. Maybe more from the tone of it overall. I guess I was disappointed it didn't show the park as a fun place kinda like the original movie before it got into the robots rebelling and becoming sentient and all moody. Didn't Futureworld show a Roman and Midieval world also?

Having the humans being jerks made you have empathy for the robots. It also gave them a reason to rise up other than just having a meltdown.

Is that what it was or were the proverbial "flies in the ointment" more than they appeared?

Antimatter:And dashed were the hopes of large amount of fanboys for nude Asian girls in Samurai world.

Granted, that would have been a controversy minefield. Imagine a bunch of white folks running around last samurai style, being heroic samurai and having lots of casual sex with Asians. Not to mention casting a bunch of Asian actresses who would be willing to bear it all.

Barricaded Gunman:Antimatter: And dashed were the hopes of large amount of fanboys for nude Asian girls in Samurai world.

Granted, that would have been a controversy minefield. Imagine a bunch of white folks running around last samurai style, being heroic samurai and having lots of casual sex with Asians. Not to mention casting a bunch of Asian actresses who would be willing to bear it all.

spamdog:I loved this show, even though I dislike the Wild West as a setting. I was kind of hoping they'd go outside the park to the modern (future) world. In the first season they had the host with the transmitter in his arm that was being used to exfiltrate data from the park to a satellite. I'd like it if, in the second season, there's a story about trying to keep hosts from escaping the park. They could start it out a bit of a detective story about what that transmitter was all about. They could have a villain who wants to use hosts to achieve his own ends in the real world. The twist is of course that hosts infiltrated human society a long time ago and are doing to humans exactly what humans did to them for so long.

Evil Mackerel:spamdog: I loved this show, even though I dislike the Wild West as a setting. I was kind of hoping they'd go outside the park to the modern (future) world. In the first season they had the host with the transmitter in his arm that was being used to exfiltrate data from the park to a satellite. I'd like it if, in the second season, there's a story about trying to keep hosts from escaping the park. They could start it out a bit of a detective story about what that transmitter was all about. They could have a villain who wants to use hosts to achieve his own ends in the real world. The twist is of course that hosts infiltrated human society a long time ago and are doing to humans exactly what humans did to them for so long.

/fart

Or when they find out the park isn't even on a planet.[img.fark.net image 750x314]

This text is now purple:Dingleberry Dickwad: Eh, I thought it was more of how it reveals that some people were sociopaths to begin with and the park just helped bring out their true self.

Only if you (and the crowd) take the position that the robots are sentient, and not just really fancy toasters.

Because you end up with a version of the elevator wielding Mjolnir argument.[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/7XrDgwFxRLo]

Can you be sociopathic towards an automaton? Are you raping your dildo?

That's a bit of an obtuse argument. While yes, they are machines, they do have a form of sentience. It may be forcibly limited so that full on self awareness isn't supposed to be possible, but it's still sentience. They were also designed for the express purpose of being as human like as possible. It can be argued that even though they are machines underneath, they do have emotions and feel pain, and that willingly abusing and causing pain, even if it's to a machine, is sociopath/psychopath like behavior.

Dingleberry Dickwad:This text is now purple: Dingleberry Dickwad: Eh, I thought it was more of how it reveals that some people were sociopaths to begin with and the park just helped bring out their true self.

Only if you (and the crowd) take the position that the robots are sentient, and not just really fancy toasters.

Because you end up with a version of the elevator wielding Mjolnir argument.[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/7XrDgwFxRLo]

Can you be sociopathic towards an automaton? Are you raping your dildo?

That's a bit of an obtuse argument. While yes, they are machines, they do have a form of sentience. It may be forcibly limited so that full on self awareness isn't supposed to be possible, but it's still sentience. They were also designed for the express purpose of being as human like as possible. It can be argued that even though they are machines underneath, they do have emotions and feel pain, and that willingly abusing and causing pain, even if it's to a machine, is sociopath/psychopath like behavior.

But isn't that only if you perceive them as human? If you can maintain the concept that they are only devices, is it any different from tormenting Siri?

Dingleberry Dickwad:This text is now purple: Dingleberry Dickwad: Eh, I thought it was more of how it reveals that some people were sociopaths to begin with and the park just helped bring out their true self.

Only if you (and the crowd) take the position that the robots are sentient, and not just really fancy toasters.

Because you end up with a version of the elevator wielding Mjolnir argument.[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/7XrDgwFxRLo]

Can you be sociopathic towards an automaton? Are you raping your dildo?

That's a bit of an obtuse argument. While yes, they are machines, they do have a form of sentience. It may be forcibly limited so that full on self awareness isn't supposed to be possible, but it's still sentience. They were also designed for the express purpose of being as human like as possible. It can be argued that even though they are machines underneath, they do have emotions and feel pain, and that willingly abusing and causing pain, even if it's to a machine, is sociopath/psychopath like behavior.

But at the same time none of the park goers know of the sentience. That think they are dealing with computer programs in fake human skin.

Which would actually be a great way to let the violent people vent themselves rather than doing it in regular society.

Hopefully they can do something different. The whole series seemed to be exploring the whole "what is self' thing until the end when it just became another robot rebellion trope. In other words, the last episode just ruined it for me.

tkgeisha:I struggled with this show. Maybe more from the tone of it overall. I guess I was disappointed it didn't show the park as a fun place kinda like the original movie before it got into the robots rebelling and becoming sentient and all moody. Didn't Futureworld show a Roman and Midieval world also?

I tried watching the original Westworld movie just a few weeks ago. Unfortunately I didn't make it very far before I fell asleep. But there was definitely a scene in the very beginning of the movie where Medievalworld and Romanworld were mentioned.

amindtat:tkgeisha: I struggled with this show. Maybe more from the tone of it overall. I guess I was disappointed it didn't show the park as a fun place kinda like the original movie before it got into the robots rebelling and becoming sentient and all moody. Didn't Futureworld show a Roman and Midieval world also?

I tried watching the original Westworld movie just a few weeks ago. Unfortunately I didn't make it very far before I fell asleep. But there was definitely a scene in the very beginning of the movie where Medievalworld and Romanworld were mentioned.

Oh, o.k. Thanks. There was a sequel that I vaguely remember called Futureworld, I thought that was the one that had it in it. I'll have to see if I can find it.

This text is now purple:Dingleberry Dickwad: This text is now purple: Dingleberry Dickwad: Eh, I thought it was more of how it reveals that some people were sociopaths to begin with and the park just helped bring out their true self.

Only if you (and the crowd) take the position that the robots are sentient, and not just really fancy toasters.

Because you end up with a version of the elevator wielding Mjolnir argument.[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/7XrDgwFxRLo]

Can you be sociopathic towards an automaton? Are you raping your dildo?

That's a bit of an obtuse argument. While yes, they are machines, they do have a form of sentience. It may be forcibly limited so that full on self awareness isn't supposed to be possible, but it's still sentience. They were also designed for the express purpose of being as human like as possible. It can be argued that even though they are machines underneath, they do have emotions and feel pain, and that willingly abusing and causing pain, even if it's to a machine, is sociopath/psychopath like behavior.

But isn't that only if you perceive them as human? If you can maintain the concept that they are only devices, is it any different from tormenting Siri?

I would argue that since they are designed to emulate emotions and pain in a realistic way, someone deriving pleasure from the anguished fear in the face of one of the robots would indeed be a sociopath.

dywed88:Dingleberry Dickwad: This text is now purple: Dingleberry Dickwad: Eh, I thought it was more of how it reveals that some people were sociopaths to begin with and the park just helped bring out their true self.

Only if you (and the crowd) take the position that the robots are sentient, and not just really fancy toasters.

Because you end up with a version of the elevator wielding Mjolnir argument.[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/7XrDgwFxRLo]

Can you be sociopathic towards an automaton? Are you raping your dildo?

That's a bit of an obtuse argument. While yes, they are machines, they do have a form of sentience. It may be forcibly limited so that full on self awareness isn't supposed to be possible, but it's still sentience. They were also designed for the express purpose of being as human like as possible. It can be argued that even though they are machines underneath, they do have emotions and feel pain, and that willingly abusing and causing pain, even if it's to a machine, is sociopath/psychopath like behavior.

But at the same time none of the park goers know of the sentience. That think they are dealing with computer programs in fake human skin.

Which would actually be a great way to let the violent people vent themselves rather than doing it in regular society.

Playing through the newest itineration of Hitman, once a mission goes sideways I've gone on a mass murder spree, killing all the NPCs in the level out of frustration. Unlike previous versions, some of the newer NPCs actually drop to the ground and beg you not to kill them, sobbing, crying, etc.

It's only PC graphics on a 22" screen, and I'm never of the mindset that they're real people, but it's still disturbing as hell and I haven't done it since. I really can't imagine doing the same thing with Westworld-style physical realism. It would be monstrous.