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I am just outside of all these clusters.. Closest TMCRA I have ever found was around 810 years, but I keep trying to get tied to one or another...lol ( at least I am keeping the testing companies alive in this recession)

I'm still thrilled to be L21+. I thought 2008 was a pretty good SNP year: first P312 was discovered in March and then L21 in October.

I know everyone wants further refinements and SNPs that pinpoint geographic origin down to ggggggg-grandpa's outhouse, but I wish we were spending some of that money on finding out about the bird in the hand (L21).

Much of the European Continent is still terra incognita.

I can't blame the R-P312* guys for putting a lot of bucks into the WTY, though. They haven't gotten as far along as we have.

So both L159+ results were members of the Leinster Haplotype as far as L21+ is concerned, is that correct? This test only took two weeks; it seems worthwhile to continue testing further. The implications of this SNP seem very curious.

Yeah, it's still REALLY odd that two people with different surnames tested positive for L159 in a few weeks from each other. There's gotta be something to this, and more Leinster members will test. As for the Beatties, my closest STR-wise, they are still with me - in L21 purgatory LOL!

Rich, I totally agree. When I put it that way, it sounded as I was overlooking the recent advances we've made! I think I'm getting spoiled with this stuff.

"I know everyone wants further refinements and SNPs that pinpoint geographic origin down to ggggggg-grandpa's outhouse, but I wish we were spending some of that money on finding out about the bird in the hand (L21).

Much of the European Continent is still terra incognita."

My two cents, I don't think any of this will be settled until full genome testing goes under $1,000 closer to $500.

Last I remember it was around $50,000, but the technology is improving steadily.

This piece meal, SNP by SNP by SNP testing may be somewhat useful now, however, in the next few years we will see an explosion of data.

" In April 2009, Complete Genomics announced that it plans to sequence 1,000 full genomes between June 2009 and the end of the year and that they plan to be able to sequence one million full genomes per year by 2013.[57] Complete Genomics plans to officially launch in June 2009, although it is unknown if their lab will have received CLIA-certification by that time.

In June 2009, Illumina announced that they were launching their own Personal Full Genome Sequencing Service at a depth of 30X for $48,000 per genome.[58] This is still expensive for widespread consumer use, but the price may decrease substantially over the next few years as they realize economies of scale and given the competition with other companies such as Complete Genomics.[59][60] Jay Flatley, Illumina's President & CEO, stated that "during the next five years, perhaps markedly sooner," the price point for full genome sequencing will fall from $48,000 to under $1,000.[61] Illumina has already signed agreements to supply full genome sequencing services to multiple direct-to-consumer personal genomics companies.

In August 2009, the founder of Helicos Biosciences, Dr. Stephen Quake, stated that using the company's Heliscope Single Molecule Sequencer he sequenced his own full genome for less than $50,000. He stated that he expects the cost to decrease to the $1,000 range within the the next two to three years."

"Hello,Thank you for your email. Your L159- result was due to a brief glitch in the results collection system, which prematurely marked the test complete and assumed a negative result. We have fixed the bug and removed the L159 result. We do sometimes receive results within days of the test being ordered; your L159 test is processing now and will likely be complete within the next week.E-mail any time,Eileen Krause Murphy "

I thought about it being way to soon for results but I just thought the segment had already been primed but not read before. I have had several other 'Optional' tests that came back in just several weeks or less.

At first, we thought it was some time around the Norman invasion of England and Ireland, but since we have some continental matches, the date could easily be pushed back a lot longer.

I've read some old books on the Cambro-Norman Invasion of Ireland, circa 1170 AD. At that time I believe a clan was already present in the Leinster area that is where the Kavanaugh surname came from. I think there is a Kavanaugh or two in the Leinster group. If all is so, they were pre-Norman (in Ireland.)