Also how hard do you guys pro ? Do you guys try Reaching out to blogs to post up your product? And how hard do you guys hit the streets? Or do you just rely all on the web?

We are big on promo, you have to be to get your brand out there. An excellent Social media presence is a must, we use or twitter, facebook and tumblr daily but you always have to connect with people in person. Events are a must people have to see. We had our 3 year anniversary at the Atlanta's New Era Flagship(check out the pictures Part 4Part 3Part 2Part 1) last month and we got in touch with some people who had been admiring us from online for a while and that shit is priceless.

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Also how hard do you guys pro ? Do you guys try Reaching out to blogs to post up your product? And how hard do you guys hit the streets? Or do you just rely all on the web?

We are big on promo, you have to be to get your brand out there. An excellent Social media presence is a must, we use or twitter, facebook and tumblr daily but you always have to connect with people in person. Events are a must people have to see. We had our 3 year anniversary at the Atlanta's New Era Flagship(check out the pictures Part 4Part 3Part 2Part 1) last month and we got in touch with some people who had been admiring us from online for a while and that shit is priceless.

looked at your blog and you gotta re work it man to much clutter i didnt know what i was looking at....and re do your online shop....it made me feel like i was buying clothes out a closet or something

if most of us had a few stacks we could design and produce menswear or anything else.....but anybody without investors pretty much has to start out as a t-shirt company, nothing wrong with that

Exactly. And all the people that are quick to make comments about &quot;so called t shirt companys&quot; fail to remember that their favorite brands, The Hundreds, Supreme, etc., ALL started out as just a &quot;t shirt company&quot;. Everybody has to start somewhere.

It's 2012.

whats your point?

I would venture to say that he dosent have one.

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if most of us had a few stacks we could design and produce menswear or anything else.....but anybody without investors pretty much has to start out as a t-shirt company, nothing wrong with that

Exactly. And all the people that are quick to make comments about &quot;so called t shirt companys&quot; fail to remember that their favorite brands, The Hundreds, Supreme, etc., ALL started out as just a &quot;t shirt company&quot;. Everybody has to start somewhere.

if most of us had a few stacks we could design and produce menswear or anything else.....but anybody without investors pretty much has to start out as a t-shirt company, nothing wrong with that

Exactly. And all the people that are quick to make comments about &quot;so called t shirt companys&quot; fail to remember that their favorite brands, The Hundreds, Supreme, etc., ALL started out as just a &quot;t shirt company&quot;. Everybody has to start somewhere.

It's 2012.

whats your point?

I would venture to say that he dosent have one.

I would venture to say that he does have one.

I'm listening....

"Being happy is the goal, but greatness is my vision" Twitter/IG/Snap: @MrDaleOG

Also how hard do you guys pro ? Do you guys try Reaching out to blogs to post up your product? And how hard do you guys hit the streets? Or do you just rely all on the web?

We are big on promo, you have to be to get your brand out there. An excellent Social media presence is a must, we use or twitter, facebook and tumblr daily but you always have to connect with people in person. Events are a must people have to see. We had our 3 year anniversary at the Atlanta's New Era Flagship(check out the pictures Part 4Part 3Part 2Part 1) last month and we got in touch with some people who had been admiring us from online for a while and that shit is priceless.

looked at your blog and you gotta re work it man to much clutter i didnt know what i was looking at....and re do your online shop....it made me feel like i was buying clothes out a closet or something

Product placement! Align yourself with talented people who are willing to help your movement and sponsor them with some clothing..any view they get with your gear on is a potential new customer. Here's a recent promo music video we were lucky to get from the very talented Joyner Lucas, winner of Alchemist's Rappers Best Friend 2 contest..

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and what would you guys say is the best website to order snapbacks from? is embroidery included or seperate? I need info on hats.. any websites where to order strapbacks instead of snaps?

lol, people hold onto that info like gold.

I spend ~5 hours a week looking for new manufactures. Sent out probs close to 100 emails already. Been scammed twice but I was able to get my money back, still lost months without product. The place im going through now has taken 12 weeks, on a 6-8 week quote time. But i have some new people lined up in china thanks to a few contacts ive met online that have gone hunting for me. Prices are cheap if you can get right to the factory thats for sure. But then you gotta set up pickup/delivery over seas and all that.

The less chinese people you can deal with the better. Not racism, straight up fact. Part of the chinese way is to always get the best deal. What are you going to do if they scam you? You cant do shit all, because its international business. Never pay via TT or Western Union either because its untraceable.

If anyone has pant(chino) manufactures for low minimums PM me id love to share all my hat factories and connections overseas in exchange for some info on getting pants made.

and what would you guys say is the best website to order snapbacks from? is embroidery included or seperate? I need info on hats.. any websites where to order strapbacks instead of snaps?

Ottocap.com does snapbacks. But you might end up with their tags placed on subtle areas of your product.

As far as getting someone else's manufacturer, you have to build on a relationship before they even hook you up. Companies build relationships with their manufacturers for years and they dont want to send any business their way if they feel that referring anyone might mess up their relationship with the manufacturer.

and what would you guys say is the best website to order snapbacks from? is embroidery included or seperate? I need info on hats.. any websites where to order strapbacks instead of snaps?

Ottocap.com does snapbacks. But you might end up with their tags placed on subtle areas of your product.

As far as getting someone else's manufacturer, you have to build on a relationship before they even hook you up. Companies build relationships with their manufacturers for years and they dont want to send any business their way if they feel that referring anyone might mess up their relationship with the manufacturer.

Still got the red ANMLHSE snapback you laced me with a few years back bruh lol, good stuff (!)