my point was the bolded parti get that you had to tell yourself ill be the lucky one that lives, and in my reply on the guild forums, i mentioned that both sides had officers waiting to make sure they didnt have to shoot you themselves

in previous wars, there werent long static front lines with a no mans land between them afaik yes the horrors of war are still the horrors of war, but trench warfare in WWI is beyond just hte horrors of warit is a special kind of hell, and the only way to get out of that hell was to go into one worse by charging across no mans landbut like i pointed out, they didnt let themselves get killedthey were following orders and doing what they had to

Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPSAmirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego. Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.Sagara:You see, you need to *spread* the bun before you insert the hot dog.

Trying to teach myself how to Panda tank on my Paladin in case I need to fill in for one of the mainspec tanks is awol is fucked. Feels like I'm slogging through mud after adapting to the haste stacking nature of Ret and levelling my Brewmaster. Do. Not. Like. Gunna swap to haste from mastery but with so much of my item budget being poured into expertise I'm not liking my chances of being able to do it to any acceptable level.

but really, nothing in WWII is the same hell as the trenches of WWIyes, the island warfare in teh pacific was terribleyes the landing on normady beaches of D-Day was a needed evilthe eastern front...that was just a fuck up from the beginning - if hitler had waited until england was taken care of before he broke the non-agression pact with the USSR, he probably would have won the war (well that and if he studied history)

but all of this didnt have the sheer horror of years of living in a trench, going up and over into a hail of machine gun fire, and knowing that once you got over it, if you were still alive, you would be surrounded by thousands of the enemy in their home turf...not to mention all the health issues that could kill you in your own trench

oh and Mustard Gas...yeah i say the trenches in WWI were hell on earth, but WWII was no picnic either

Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPSAmirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego. Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.Sagara:You see, you need to *spread* the bun before you insert the hot dog.

bldavis wrote:the eastern front...that was just a fuck up from the beginning - if hitler had waited until england was taken care of before he broke the non-agression pact with the USSR, he probably would have won the war (well that and if he studied history)

The eastern front wasn't hell because Hitler fucked up. Rather, it's hell because all the rules for warfare went out the window. Think the germans were bad in the west? Or maybe not all that bad? How do you think they went about when they warred against the "subhuman" slavs? And the the russians retaliated. Not to mention stuff like german soldiers being sent into Russia without winter gear ("we'll be in Moscow in a month"), or russian soldiers getting one gun for every other (or every third, or fourth) man, being sent into the hellhole that was Stalingrad on pain on machinegun fire in the back. And so on.

i was just saying that had he waited, the war might have turned out differentlyand to the nazi's anyone not tall, blond, and blue eyed was sub-human...the aryan race was THE perfect race and the only one that should be allowed to have powerwhich in itself is funny as hitler was 5' something (i think 6, idr though) had brown hair, brown eyes, and was born in Austria, and was part jewish

my other point was that yes, WWII had its own horrorsevery war doesbut imo, based on research i have done (i am a HUGE history buff, and WWII/WWI are my favorite modern subjects) WWI trenches were a special kind of hell that from which millions of soldiers died. no one LET them selves die though, they all tried to live. it came down to pray to any/all god(s) you worship/believe in and go across or stay and get shot for not moving, as well as things like trench foot and mustard gas

name a somewhat modern war/military action and i am sure you can find examples of horror and hell in itbut nothing comes close to what trench warfare was like, and i hope that nothing ever will again

Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPSAmirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego. Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.Sagara:You see, you need to *spread* the bun before you insert the hot dog.

Blackitt! Blackie! Look at him. He worked on that cake like no one else I've ever known. Some nights it was so cold, we could hardly move, but Blackie'd be out there slicing the lemons, mixing the sugar and the almonds. I mean, you try trying to get butter to melt at fifteen degrees below zero! There's love in that cake.

Apparently (due to the fact that my belt isnt in the wowhead database) I missed out on the fact that I only had one JC gem on progress after first boss, damn i feel stupid, some fanboy pointed it out tho from checking armory ;(

Treck wrote:Apparently (due to the fact that my belt isnt in the wowhead database) I missed out on the fact that I only had one JC gem on progress after first boss, damn i feel stupid, some fanboy pointed it out tho from checking armory ;(

I have done that so many times. And can't remember how many times I have raided with an inactive meta gem.

Yeah. As is the chance to be raiding heroic ICC25 with 30 defense skill under the cap because somebody hypothetically forgot to change some of his gear back when comparing off-spec loot at the second boss and didn't notice until sindragosa...not that anybody else noticed either.

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Feeling like prot pala is pretty weak right now. I can work my ass off trying to time SotR, use CDs meaningfully etc, but a DK can still out DPS, out heal, and take less damage than me. I can't speak for feral tanks, but we definately feel weaker than warriors and DKs atm.