2TH for somewhere between (12 x 120v = 1440w) and (12 x 230v = 2760w) is not exactly a huge leap in efficiency.

Slap bang in the middle of that range is 2100w

You can have 2TH with 55nm Bitfury for 2300w

They quoted 0.7w/(GH/s) tho they were very conservative last time with their estimates.

They didn't beat the 55nm Bitfury with the 28nm. Eventually this game will come down to power efficiency.

Maybe there design has been improved a lot this time on their second generation which'll be a third generation in general bitcoin ASIC terms. Hopefully it'll ship before Hashfast and Cointerra's 28nm chips

2TH for somewhere between (12 x 120v = 1440w) and (12 x 230v = 2760w) is not exactly a huge leap in efficiency.

Slap bang in the middle of that range is 2100w

You can have 2TH with 55nm Bitfury for 2300w

They quoted 0.7w/(GH/s) tho they were very conservative last time with their estimates.

They didn't beat the 55nm Bitfury with the 28nm. Eventually this game will come down to power efficiency.I don't believe they are using real ASICs but instead FPGA HardCopy ASICs

I'll only be interested if it's selling under $20,000

They are currently selling 550GH/s Jupiters for 5k, so I'd say that the 2TH machines NEED to be cheaper than $20k - its a no brainer. Do not forget that you will have to face a huge wait and the BTC/USD is very uncertain, as usual.

Me too. Otherwise just wait till Cointerra proofs they can deliver as well (will be before KnC will deliver the Neptune), and then buy a second batch (feb/mch-2014) 2T Cointerra for about 7000......Please KnC: offer us a <10k dollar Neptune (that is 12 coins, right now, and will take 3 months to Mine-back, in Apr till Jun 2014).

From the article: "Maybe a European house can run six chips and a US house less chips,” he said, adding that chips would turn on automatically as more power became available to the box."

I wondered if something similar was going on with a poster who said his Saturns and Jupiter all had problems but didn't say anything as if there were this in the programming someone would have noticed and pointed it out.

They are currently selling 550GH/s Jupiters for 5k, so I'd say that the 2TH machines NEED to be cheaper than $20k - its a no brainer. Do not forget that you will have to face a huge wait and the BTC/USD is very uncertain, as usual.

I won't be in unless the 2TH machines cost $10k or less.

Actually its currently 650Gh/s for 5K so I'm hoping they will be under 15K for 2TH if they delivered Neptune in November!

Plus I'd like to hope they would be aggressively pricing against the competition

Why not just bury them? If a proven company like KnC can come up with 2TH for less than the non-existent pre-orders then they should get quite an avalanche of "defectors"

With the difficulty increases and competitors coming on the market, 2TH in March would need to be the same price was last month 650GH

2TH for somewhere between (12 x 120v = 1440w) and (12 x 230v = 2760w) is not exactly a huge leap in efficiency.

Slap bang in the middle of that range is 2100w

You can have 2TH with 55nm Bitfury for 2300w

They quoted 0.7w/(GH/s) tho they were very conservative last time with their estimates.

They didn't beat the 55nm Bitfury with the 28nm. Eventually this game will come down to power efficiency.I don't believe they are using real ASICs but instead FPGA HardCopy ASICs

I'll only be interested if it's selling under $20,000

They are currently selling 550GH/s Jupiters for 5k, so I'd say that the 2TH machines NEED to be cheaper than $20k - its a no brainer. Do not forget that you will have to face a huge wait and the BTC/USD is very uncertain, as usual.

I won't be in unless the 2TH machines cost $10k or less.

You guys are all way off, with Cointerra TerraMiner IV 2TH March batch selling for $6000 and looks like Neptune has about the same power efficiency. I know Cointerra is late with taping out beginning of the month, but with 4 months to go, they should be able to deliver their March batch on time. Therefore, Neptune at most should only cost $6000. My guess following KnC's under-promise/over-deliver mantra is Neptune will be $6000 but instead of 0.7W/Ghs, it will actually be 0.5W running at least 50% faster than they claim = 3TB for $6000.

2TH for somewhere between (12 x 120v = 1440w) and (12 x 230v = 2760w) is not exactly a huge leap in efficiency.

Slap bang in the middle of that range is 2100w

You can have 2TH with 55nm Bitfury for 2300w

They quoted 0.7w/(GH/s) tho they were very conservative last time with their estimates.

They didn't beat the 55nm Bitfury with the 28nm. Eventually this game will come down to power efficiency.I don't believe they are using real ASICs but instead FPGA HardCopy ASICs

I'll only be interested if it's selling under $20,000

They are currently selling 550GH/s Jupiters for 5k, so I'd say that the 2TH machines NEED to be cheaper than $20k - its a no brainer. Do not forget that you will have to face a huge wait and the BTC/USD is very uncertain, as usual.

I won't be in unless the 2TH machines cost $10k or less.

You guys are all way off, with Cointerra TerraMiner IV 2TH March batch selling for $6000 and looks like Neptune has about the same power efficiency. I know Cointerra is late with taping out beginning of the month, but with 4 months to go, they should be able to deliver their March batch on time. Therefore, Neptune at most should only cost $6000. My guess following KnC's under-promise/over-deliver mantra is Neptune will be $6000 but instead of 0.7W/Ghs, it will actually be 0.5W running at least 50% faster than they claim = 3TB for $6000.