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Re: water in honey

Mark (sqkcrk), I see now that I quoted you in my post #38. While the quote itself is accurate, it is not relevant to the point I hoped to make in post #38. I had intended to quote a portion of Tenbears post #37, but screwed it up. I apologize for messing that up and dragging you back into the thread at that point.

(I would go back and change my post #38, but the time for editing older posts has expired.)

Re: water in honey

It's funny how I have been away from reading this thread for a couple days and I come back and it's still going strong, well maybe it's starting to wane a bit, hopefully. Tenbears had some strong personal opinions on what constitutes quality honey, and he backed it up with quotes from the Pennsylvania law, and that's totally fine, but I took offense to him calling the OP's uncured nectar, and my honey for that matter, "garbage", because I occasionally have to remove a point or two of moisture from it to get it to 18% or slightly under. John

Re: water in honey

Originally Posted by WilMorris

I just did a cutout with some new honey/nectar. the hive was pretty productive for only a week and a half of residence. I crushed/strained and ended up with a somewhat runny couple of quarts of honey-ish nectar. Is it OK to heat it on low to evaporate some H2O? If so, is there a temp threshold so I don't ruin the goodness?

Originally Posted by Becky Jackson

It disheartens me to see you revered regulars being offensive to each other.

Will just wanted to salvage something, he wasn't trying to sell it, so the USDA rules aren't applicable in his case.

I had a bucket of honey with too high-water content which fermented. I didn't want to dump it in the garbage and it certainly can't be fed back to the bees, so I made MEAD with some of it.

Becky,

Had the mead suggestion been offered sooner the "revered regulars" (some of which may, or may not be "Old Farts") could have been discussing the virtues of fine fermentables...

Note to Will:

Once the "Old Fart" card is played, the gloves come off, and most assuredly, hell-fart and brimstone will rain down upon your thread...

Last edited by BeeCurious; 06-22-2013 at 07:06 AM.
Reason: Should "Old Fart" be capitalized? I suspect that "they" have a preference... ;-)

Re: water in honey

Originally Posted by jmgi

It's funny how I have been away from reading this thread for a couple days and I come back and it's still going strong, well maybe it's starting to wane a bit, hopefully. Tenbears had some strong personal opinions on what constitutes quality honey, and he backed it up with quotes from the Pennsylvania law, and that's totally fine, but I took offense to him calling the OP's uncured nectar, and my honey for that matter, "garbage", because I occasionally have to remove a point or two of moisture from it to get it to 18% or slightly under. John

John,
I know I easily take offense at times, but I'm trying to remember that I don't really know you or Tenbears or the OPer, so taking offense at something someone wrote is kinda silly. I'm trying to keep that in mind when I read something which seems pointed at me on a personal level. For whatever that is worth.

When I am working hives I sometimes shake bees off of combs before putting them into nuc boxes or other hives. Nectar shakes out of the combs onto my boots. Least that's what I and friends I talk to call it. We don't say "Honey was shaking out today." or "Unripe honey was shaking out today." So that's why I would characterize what this "water in honey" Thread is about. Not really water in honey, but uncured or unripe honey which I would characterize as nectar.

Re: water in honey

Mark, well, maybe taking offense by what someone said was not really the best choice of words from my end, especially since what Tenbears originally said was not directed at me personally but someone else. I was just defending a method of removing excessive moisture that I have used and I know many others do, and the resulting product is still honey, not garbage, at least IMO. There are proper words to describe what we are talking about here, unripe nectar/unripe honey=nectar, there we both said it. John

Re: water in honey

Context is important Edaw. The new guy was over stepping his bounds if he was assuming a certain level of familiarity. KInda like being the new guy in the Bee Club. During the coffee break socializing time it would be rude for the new guy to walk up and refer to people he didn't know as "you Old Farts". Don't you think? I thought it was an aggressive act. And if you will notice, he ain't around any more. So, I think that says it was a cowardly attack too. Maybe.