TNF, I think the line is off, it should be pick instead of Atlanta -3.5. I think Vegas wants New Orlean money, therefore I am taking Atlanta. The Saints will not make the play off and the Saints already made a ton of money for Vegas so far this year and will continue to do so, because ESPN and others kept saying New Orlean is making a run for the playoff, and people will continue to bet on them.

Casinoroyal you believe anything. I can tell you are one of those idiots who believes in any conspiracy because you have no meaning to your life. If you were intelligent you would come to the realization that if all these games were rigged, everyone would know. Even the people who dont gamble.

Greta read and points. I'm firm believer in the game within game, it's been played for years and they keep changing it! I mean, it's like trying to play poker when the table knows your cards and deck is stacked against you!

Now that being said, not all games are but the handful that should be spotted avoided and or played! That's the hard part! I knew that 52 over was a sucker pigeon bet! I was sitting at south point casino watch the end of the San Diego fix game and all the pigeons were yapping about how it would it 70 and gbay would win! Lmfao

For those doubters or skeptics, oh well stay in the cave! The ones that want prof go to the fix is in and watch the clip on skins home game vs tbay 2 years ago, after seeing that tell me something isn't rotten in Denmark!

Good luck all

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What's your role in all this? You are Roger Godell's nice? Boyfriend? Lover? or are you related to all the NFL owners or what else? Why don't you care more about your sports hocky or go ice skating or something? Why are you so upset? Did I step on your tail or something? Or you are just mad because I have been ignoring you. Anyway, the reason this tread won't die is because you kept bringing it back up. The more that you bring it back up the more people read about it and that's not your agenda.

tks mr.jerry lewis i am sure its you !!!!!,ok mr. light tell us the next game will be fix !!!!!!!!!! did you won your last bingo game with happy gilmore and mickey mousse ?

no one will ever know the answer to who ARE involved. However, whoever are involved are sure to have extra incentive in their pockets. Money silence all evidences!

As I say, it is complicated. Take sample last night Giants vs GB. Public money were heavy on GB and OVER.

all final wager entered into the system and the risk calculated as followed:

if single bet GB win payout = $500 mil

if single Giants win payout = $200 mil

if single Over win payout = $300 mil

if single Under win payout = $100 mil

if parlay GB+Over win payout = $400 mil

if parlay GB+Under win payout = $300 mil

if parlay Giants + Over win payout= $800 mil

if parlay Giant + Under win payout = $150 mil

.....From here the system can instinctly calculate the lowest risk payout and the outcome will come into play. Therefore, sometime you see 1 public win and 1 loss depending the lowest payout of all combined risks in their system.

Can you run these numbers for tonite's Denver at Oak game and post them?

1. In order to get your message through without a fear of being downgraded to a joke - you have to absolutely give up on you ego my friend. If someone tells you you're a moron - tell him he should meet you parents first and then he will understand you're lucky to be a moron. If someone tells your sister is female - tell them they should see your mother first. I promise you - people will stop pushing your buttons right away. You're busy proving you're not a liar, not delusional, not a moron etc too much. Take it easy.

2. Pro sports in essence are - PROFESSIONAL SPORTS. The players are people employed as a sportsmen professionally by their respective leagues (NBA, NFL, etc). The leagues also employ the refs and all the profits within the league are shared between all the teams since the NY Giants owner introduced the concept in 1970. The professional sports are a part of a vast industry called Entertainment. Entertainment includes going to games, watching them on TV and PC, and Cell Phones, wagering on them and merchandising. It is the League's obligation to increase the revenue through increasing the number of the game attendance, viewing, wagering and merchandising. The leagues can rightfully order the refs, the teams etc what to do and they will have to comply by the employing rules.

3.Creating dramas and at the same time preserving the profitability of all the involved partners is not a Fix!!! It is a good business move.

4. Pro Sports are like a Circus. So can Circus be fixed? Of course. It must be to be more interesting like WWF, WWE etc. That is why you need professional players who can also deliver professionally the "fixes' without being too noticeable by half drunk and half blind supportes in masses. Only people who notice it are the people who wager on a losing team. When the fix is on our side - that's a buzzer beater. When the buzzer beater is against us - it is a fix.

5. I can't believe there are a single game that is not "fixed". It does not always succeed through unprofessioanlism of the players like the Raiders yesterday and the Eagles on MNF last week. But 7 out of 10 times "fixes" succeed. And they are not fixes - just a good business moves.

6. The most important thing for a capper is to be on a right side of the fix!!!\

Fixed may be the correct word. Influence may be the correct word. Either way, the fact remains, the NFL controls the outcome of certain games. With proof of that over the years, it can no longer be disputed.

You have to ask yourself a couple of questions when it come to this topic. Would you own/run a business without having control over it? Would you leave the success of your business up to chance? Obviously, the answer to both questions is, NO!

In my opinion, if someone thinks the NFL doesn't control the outcome of the games that need to be controlled, they just don't understand things like this topic of discussion.

This is an entertainment business. The NFL owes us games played in exchange for money. They don't owe us the outcome of said games. They have to do what's best for their business. If they need a game here and there to go a certain way, it will go that way. Period.

you r so right but it took me a little while to figure out that super bowls are paid for and really not earn so is it safe to say that aurtha blank paid a lot of money to be this years champ? just wondering the way the NFL is set up its says for entertainment purposes well if you see certain teams play that suck and all of sudden they beat a real quality team you say it was there day bull garbage if the league wanted to take the worst team in the league and make it the champ it could because its entertainment

Can you run these numbers for tonite's Denver at Oak game and post them?

Thx

you are so on point these are the things that i look at when betting and you hit it right on the head thanks for sharing and as you can see its hard to win you just have to be lucky as hell because these guys cover all angles and the way to bet them is to be on the right side of the fix

Good read and similar thoughts. The NFL is so good at controling things that if you took all the past games and analyzed them, you will find that over/under is about 50/50. Favor/dog 50/50 Home/away 50/50. I mean how good are these guys season after season. Its also runed very tight, no leaks to the media. Well, like I said before I believe NFL is very tightly controlled (fixed) and people should be aware of it before they bet on a prime time game.

Good read and similar thoughts. The NFL is so good at controling things that if you took all the past games and analyzed them, you will find that over/under is about 50/50. Favor/dog 50/50 Home/away 50/50. I mean how good are these guys season after season. Its also runed very tight, no leaks to the media. Well, like I said before I believe NFL is very tightly controlled (fixed) and people should be aware of it before they bet on a prime time game.

Lol, you just dont quit on your Fixing Theory. Have you ever taken Probability or Statistic Math? Since the game has 2 possible outcome for each type of betting. (over 50%) and (under 50%) or (favorite 50%) and (dog 50%). By equal probability based on law of average for large number of trials you will approach 50% as the number of trials (games) grow larger. By that, you will have streak of 9-1 or 1-9 (10 trials) or 60-40 or 40-60 (100 trials) but if you go on and on with a lot more trials (games) you should reach 50%. STill LOL on your Theory.

most people know somewhere deep inside its fixed but dont like to admit it for mutiple reasons, sometimes childhood dreams and rooting for your fav team would be all for nought and many folks wont come to the realization, or others because their fav team is good and they dont want to feel ashamed when rooting for their team or talking trash amongst others who will think they are nuts for even broaching the subject but if those people watched every game every week and followed the spreads and over unders they would then realize how much these lines come into play and clearly affect the outcome more often than not

its not abot law of averages when spreads come into play, too often a line is too high or too low and vegas cleasn up, those games dont get counted when all your averages for favs and dogs winning come out at 50/50

if vegas truely wanted even money on both sides then the spreads would be way different, linesmakers dont know garbage when a team wins by 30 and the spread was only three why dont they take heat for it? why wasnt the spread 27.5? if they were that good the spreads would bust more often too

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