Hasn't Chris Jordan been in England since he was 16? Did he go back to the West Indies to play cricket as well then.

Yeah he was spotted aged 16 and came over to England on a scholarship having been part of the Barbados youth system up until then. Despite what the ECB PR team says, those in Barbados cricket know he hadn't really made up his mind about who he wanted to play for until a couple of years ago. He kept coming back to play Brabados cricket and trials and wanted to play in our FC season to see if he could grab the selectors attention. For a number of years he struggled to get in ahead of Edwards, Best, Cummins, Braithwaite, Holder etc. But when he dide he did well. But then he got a place in the England Lions/Academy team and never looked back.

I'm not angry with him, I have no problem with his choice to play for England and Surrey obviously put a lot of work into his development. Our selectors were never going to give him a game anyway (he wasn't playing enough for Barbados and they are terrible talent spotters). I hope he performs really well. The only caveat I put on it is that he must never play for Barbados again and take the place of a potential young West Indies pacer now that he has made his choice.

Yeah he was spotted aged 16 and came over to England on a scholarship having been part of the Barbados youth system up until then. Despite what the ECB PR team says, those in Barbados cricket know he hadn't really made up his mind about who he wanted to play for until a couple of years ago. He kept coming back to play Brabados cricket and trials and wanted to play in our FC season to see if he could grab the selectors attention. For a number of years he struggled to get in ahead of Edwards, Best, Cummins, Braithwaite, Holder etc. But when he dide he did well. But then he got a place in the England Lions/Academy team and never looked back.

I'm not angry with him, I have no problem with his choice to play for England and Surrey obviously put a lot of work into his development. Our selectors were never going to give him a game anyway (he wasn't playing enough for Barbados and they are terrible talent spotters). I hope he performs really well. The only caveat I put on it is that he must never play for Barbados again and take the place of a potential young West Indies pacer now that he has made his choice.

He ain't never gonna be playing for Bim again Beamer...that book was closed as soon as he chose England. And yes he did struggle to play for Bim at first but in all honesty he had Holder, Roach, Carlos Brathwaite, Fidel, Best and Cummins ahead of him...and having seen his run-up i don't blame the Barbados or WI selectors for being cautious tbh...especially after Clydd Butts and co picked Andre Russell and didn't realise he had a problem with his delivery.

One day world cup winners- Champions trophy winners- T20 world cup winners- 29 test series without defeat record- Highest run chase in test history record and some think we're minnows? :P

He ain't never gonna be playing for Bim again Beamer...that book was closed as soon as he chose England. And yes he did struggle to play for Bim at first but in all honesty he had Holder, Roach, Carlos Brathwaite, Fidel, Best and Cummins ahead of him...and having seen his run-up i don't blame the Barbados or WI selectors for being cautious tbh...especially after Clydd Butts and co picked Andre Russell and didn't realise he had a problem with his delivery.

Interestingly from watching Channel 5's highlights, Simon Hughes did a peice on his run up today and how he'd sorted it out as he used to have no ball problems. Guess that'll be good coaching to fix a problem that was initially an issue and other coaches weren't able to fix...

Holding said after the OT ODI that he needs to generate more pace from his run up. At the moment it comes pretty much exclusively from his arm action and, as a player with back problems in the past, one doesn't need to be a physio to join the dots up.

Mikey also suggested his half-arsed run up (my paraphrase) might well be the result of him not trusting his body to not break down again. Although he's 100% now, he's unwilling to do what caused him pain and cost him time out injured before.

Interesting conundrum for Sakes actually; our bowling coaches have a chequered history in tinkering with what comes naturally to our seamers. Cooley set Jimmeh back years and the well-intentioned changes to Finn's approach may well have cured his unfortunate habit of clipping the stumps in his delivery stride but also, by all accounts, effectively rendered him null as a bowler on the Australian tour debacle.

Love Jorders tho; kid plays without fear and has entered the international game to the manor born. Hope careful coaching can add to what he has (a word or too from Holding might be a good place to start) rather than diluting his undoubted natural abilities.

Foreign-born seam-up all-rounders seem quite the thing just now with Stokes and now Jordan thrusting forwards; get Maschede in the squad ASAP.

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