The point was that in previous times throughout US history, times associated with more freedom, there were more cases of actual government intrusion into the lives of citizens. Times when there was far less surveillance there were more drastic measures taken. I'm sure that neither you or I are aware of if we are being recorded or tracked but we certainly would be aware if our neighbor accused us of being a communist and the police came and through us in jail.

So what? A greater wrong happened a few times before, and that makes this shit right? Bullshit....

I expect to not to have to face this on a daily basis but if you want to walk around every day with your freedom and an AK-47 on your back than there are plenty of places that would be happy to take you.

By the way, I would ask the thousand people that Lincoln locked up against the Constitution, or the Japanese that FDR locked up, or the people locked up under the Red Scare, how much they enjoyed their freedoms. How many have been locked up under the Patriot Act exactly?

The best defense is a kick ass offense.

It's about time the U.S. quit playing games with terrorists and started assassinating world leaders who promote terrorism. Ahmadinejad should have never left New York alive - accidents happen all the time.

No, i am not that stupid. You really think the governments care about you? Really? Some asshole, some coward sold them on this using your logic as an excuse. I bet that didn't even work, the outrage forced them to shut these down, so bribery probably played a role. We are just the serfs.

If the govt does not care about you then why are they so interested in where you are going?

I have been reading about these white boxes for weeks now. You wont see much on M$M until probably today. Seattle had to come clean. These things track your wi-fi, don't care if it is phones, tablets, cars, whatever, they track it. The put up enough to track everyone in the city.

This is just a typical day here in Fascist Land. We have become the enemy of OUR government, and no one seems to care anymore.

Anyway they came on the "news" today and said they were going to shut these down. Sure, I believe them, why not, they actually said "for now".

Police Chief Jim Pugel gave the orders to begin the deactivation process earlier in the day, while also claiming they had not been actively using the network. Seattle police now say the network was “operational” but not being “operated” after allegedly forgetting to turn off the system following its initial test phase, contradicting earlier claims.

It's about time the U.S. quit playing games with terrorists and started assassinating world leaders who promote terrorism. Ahmadinejad should have never left New York alive - accidents happen all the time.

Are you advocating assassinating Obomber? Because he sure as hell supports it, but is more than willing to throw anyone else in a black hole indefinitely for doing much less than he does.