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Your Daily Fix of Neuroscience, Skepticism, and Critical ThinkingTue, 03 Mar 2015 18:07:13 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1By: nelsonneitzchehttp://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/us-government-says-there-is-no-ufo-conspiracy/comment-page-1/#comment-63276
nelsonneitzcheSun, 26 Jan 2014 04:51:34 +0000http://theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=3822#comment-63276"The U.S. government has no evidence that any life exists outside our planet, or that an extraterrestrial presence has contacted or engaged any member of the human race. In addition, there is no credible information to suggest that any evidence is being hidden from the public’s eye." - You of course believe this!
I am not a conspiracy theorist nor I read about the latest conspiracies, but what seems interesting to me is that any form of government skepticism (generally speaking) is somehow automatically labeled as "conspiracy theory". It seems that the word skepticism has been euphemized as conspiracy whenever it is use to criticize governments. I haven't heard of a well-respected scientist addressing a conspiracy theory with a tendency somewhat similar to how an atheist would address the benevolence of the idea of god.
I don't believe in these ET. conspiracies but can some well-known scientist attack the stupidity of how government respond to ET conspiracies and religious beliefs? That is something I want to see! Politicians laugh whenever confronted with questions about UFOS, but whenever it comes to this "god" shit nobody really says anything.“The U.S. government has no evidence that any life exists outside our planet, or that an extraterrestrial presence has contacted or engaged any member of the human race. In addition, there is no credible information to suggest that any evidence is being hidden from the public’s eye.” – You of course believe this!

I am not a conspiracy theorist nor I read about the latest conspiracies, but what seems interesting to me is that any form of government skepticism (generally speaking) is somehow automatically labeled as “conspiracy theory”. It seems that the word skepticism has been euphemized as conspiracy whenever it is use to criticize governments. I haven’t heard of a well-respected scientist addressing a conspiracy theory with a tendency somewhat similar to how an atheist would address the benevolence of the idea of god.

I don’t believe in these ET. conspiracies but can some well-known scientist attack the stupidity of how government respond to ET conspiracies and religious beliefs? That is something I want to see! Politicians laugh whenever confronted with questions about UFOS, but whenever it comes to this “god” shit nobody really says anything.

]]>By: mrmrhackeysackhttp://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/us-government-says-there-is-no-ufo-conspiracy/comment-page-1/#comment-41303
mrmrhackeysackSat, 31 Mar 2012 07:45:05 +0000http://theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=3822#comment-41303US Government says lots of stuff. US Government says that money is worth something even though the gold standard is no more. And the US Government is printing money faster than they know what to do with, or can pay for. Nickels and dimes aren't even worth the metal they're molded out of.
The UFOS have gotten to a Christian music radio station in Boston, WGIH. They just started playing something that sounded like bloody close encounters of the third kind. How much more proof do you want? What I want to know is why are they going after a Christian station? Why not a hindu or an atheist station? Because the government got involved. Thats why.
And another thing. Call me insane, but ET was more than just chickenwire and clay. He was setting us up so we'd just laugh at aliens and say gee, that's funny. You don't think so. But they got spielberg, and I can prove it.
Artificial Intelligence. Close Encounters. ET. Just to name a few.US Government says lots of stuff. US Government says that money is worth something even though the gold standard is no more. And the US Government is printing money faster than they know what to do with, or can pay for. Nickels and dimes aren’t even worth the metal they’re molded out of.

The UFOS have gotten to a Christian music radio station in Boston, WGIH. They just started playing something that sounded like bloody close encounters of the third kind. How much more proof do you want? What I want to know is why are they going after a Christian station? Why not a hindu or an atheist station? Because the government got involved. Thats why.

And another thing. Call me insane, but ET was more than just chickenwire and clay. He was setting us up so we’d just laugh at aliens and say gee, that’s funny. You don’t think so. But they got spielberg, and I can prove it.

Artificial Intelligence. Close Encounters. ET. Just to name a few.

]]>By: locutusbrghttp://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/us-government-says-there-is-no-ufo-conspiracy/comment-page-1/#comment-38278
locutusbrgWed, 09 Nov 2011 14:36:54 +0000http://theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=3822#comment-38278johnmatthewsonon
Here is a good review of the Rendlesham forest incident/evidence.
Not very convincing either. There are good links to the actual research on that site as well as audio taped from that night.
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4135johnmatthewsonon

Here is a good review of the Rendlesham forest incident/evidence.
Not very convincing either. There are good links to the actual research on that site as well as audio taped from that night.

]]>By: johnmatthewsonhttp://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/us-government-says-there-is-no-ufo-conspiracy/comment-page-1/#comment-38276
johnmatthewsonWed, 09 Nov 2011 12:28:34 +0000http://theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=3822#comment-38276The mundane truth about the US is probably the same as that in the UK. Yes, the government did cover up UFO reports. No, there is no definite evidence of aliens. Governments just love covering stuff up!
The UK government has now released large tranches of UFO reports from their "secret" UFO section of the ministry of defence (a couple of clerks who worked on a part time basis filing the reports away). See http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ufos/
Most of the reports are totally cranky but there are several that are puzzling. The most interesting is the Rendlesham Forest report but although there is a mass of eyewitness testimony, especially from the security forces at the nearby US nuclear base, there is no material evidence.
I am pretty sure that there is no material evidence in the US either - just think what a bit of alien spacecraft, if such things existed, would be worth.The mundane truth about the US is probably the same as that in the UK. Yes, the government did cover up UFO reports. No, there is no definite evidence of aliens. Governments just love covering stuff up!

The UK government has now released large tranches of UFO reports from their “secret” UFO section of the ministry of defence (a couple of clerks who worked on a part time basis filing the reports away). See http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ufos/

Most of the reports are totally cranky but there are several that are puzzling. The most interesting is the Rendlesham Forest report but although there is a mass of eyewitness testimony, especially from the security forces at the nearby US nuclear base, there is no material evidence.

I am pretty sure that there is no material evidence in the US either – just think what a bit of alien spacecraft, if such things existed, would be worth.

]]>By: steve12http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/us-government-says-there-is-no-ufo-conspiracy/comment-page-1/#comment-38272
steve12Wed, 09 Nov 2011 06:11:00 +0000http://theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=3822#comment-38272"Any evidence for an alternate explanation was planted by the conspirators."
I think my favorite piece of "evidence" that has an obvious alternate explanation is that UFO sightings seem to cluster around military bases, obviously because the aliens are assessing our technologies, or because we're flying captured/ reverse-engineered alien crafts stored at the bases.
You would think that at the least, this clustering evidence would be regarded as a null considering that we can say with certainty that strange aircraft WILL be seen at military bases.
I could also never explain how my naivete ruled out the more prosaic explanation, but several of my UFO believer friends indicated that the two were related.“Any evidence for an alternate explanation was planted by the conspirators.”

I think my favorite piece of “evidence” that has an obvious alternate explanation is that UFO sightings seem to cluster around military bases, obviously because the aliens are assessing our technologies, or because we’re flying captured/ reverse-engineered alien crafts stored at the bases.

You would think that at the least, this clustering evidence would be regarded as a null considering that we can say with certainty that strange aircraft WILL be seen at military bases.

I could also never explain how my naivete ruled out the more prosaic explanation, but several of my UFO believer friends indicated that the two were related.

]]>By: ccbowershttp://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/us-government-says-there-is-no-ufo-conspiracy/comment-page-1/#comment-38268
ccbowersWed, 09 Nov 2011 00:57:46 +0000http://theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=3822#comment-38268I really never understood why such a conspiracy would exist in the first place. I've never heard a reasonable answer to the question of why the world's governments (which ever are involved in the coverup) have an interest in keeping such information a secret. The whole widespread panic argument seems unfounded, especially if the truth was that aliens have been visiting for decades. My understanding is that the reports of panic "war of the worlds" broadcast in the 1930s was at least partially attributed to media exaggeration, and in that senario it was not just that aliens existed, but they were attacking.I really never understood why such a conspiracy would exist in the first place. I’ve never heard a reasonable answer to the question of why the world’s governments (which ever are involved in the coverup) have an interest in keeping such information a secret. The whole widespread panic argument seems unfounded, especially if the truth was that aliens have been visiting for decades. My understanding is that the reports of panic “war of the worlds” broadcast in the 1930s was at least partially attributed to media exaggeration, and in that senario it was not just that aliens existed, but they were attacking.
]]>By: SARAhttp://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/us-government-says-there-is-no-ufo-conspiracy/comment-page-1/#comment-38265
SARATue, 08 Nov 2011 23:15:51 +0000http://theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=3822#comment-38265Why ask the government?
You can only re hash the old evidence so many times.
Each additional "denial" is more evidence of the cover up.Why ask the government?
You can only re hash the old evidence so many times.
Each additional “denial” is more evidence of the cover up.
]]>By: chaos4zaphttp://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/us-government-says-there-is-no-ufo-conspiracy/comment-page-1/#comment-38263
chaos4zapTue, 08 Nov 2011 22:01:55 +0000http://theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=3822#comment-38263Yeah, there was an Onion article that simply said "House republicans vow to veto Obama’s plan to stop giant asteroid heading towards earth" or something like that. Maybe that is why the idea came to me, but it's a serious question. You hear plenty about manned vs. non-manned missions to mars but not a peep anymore about what we do if a planet killer shows up unexpectedly. I suppose we are getting way off topic here, so I'll digress on the subject.Yeah, there was an Onion article that simply said “House republicans vow to veto Obama’s plan to stop giant asteroid heading towards earth” or something like that. Maybe that is why the idea came to me, but it’s a serious question. You hear plenty about manned vs. non-manned missions to mars but not a peep anymore about what we do if a planet killer shows up unexpectedly. I suppose we are getting way off topic here, so I’ll digress on the subject.
]]>By: mindmehttp://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/us-government-says-there-is-no-ufo-conspiracy/comment-page-1/#comment-38262
mindmeTue, 08 Nov 2011 21:35:09 +0000http://theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=3822#comment-38262"Call me paranoid, but with the very real threat and inevitability of another major asteroid collision that would, at worse, destroy all of mankind and at best severely inconvenience us…the only reason that the government wouldn’t make finding an effective intervention for that scenario priority 1, is if they have the threat covered with some unknown alien technology. "
My belief is they would release it but it would become like global warming. Let's say the asteroid is 20 years out. Or 2 elections out. It requires massive $$$ right now to deal with but the benefits won't be realized until there's a new administration or the 70 year olds running major corporations will have long died. There's a well oiled denial machine out there ready with an effective playbook. Cranks and deniers would simply deny the data, call astronomers astrofacists, label it junk science, urge we teach the controversy, etc.“Call me paranoid, but with the very real threat and inevitability of another major asteroid collision that would, at worse, destroy all of mankind and at best severely inconvenience us…the only reason that the government wouldn’t make finding an effective intervention for that scenario priority 1, is if they have the threat covered with some unknown alien technology. ”

My belief is they would release it but it would become like global warming. Let’s say the asteroid is 20 years out. Or 2 elections out. It requires massive $$$ right now to deal with but the benefits won’t be realized until there’s a new administration or the 70 year olds running major corporations will have long died. There’s a well oiled denial machine out there ready with an effective playbook. Cranks and deniers would simply deny the data, call astronomers astrofacists, label it junk science, urge we teach the controversy, etc.

]]>By: chaos4zaphttp://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/us-government-says-there-is-no-ufo-conspiracy/comment-page-1/#comment-38261
chaos4zapTue, 08 Nov 2011 21:29:50 +0000http://theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=3822#comment-38261Call me paranoid, but with the very real threat and inevitability of another major asteroid collision that would, at worse, destroy all of mankind and at best severely inconvenience us...the only reason that the government wouldn’t make finding an effective intervention for that scenario priority 1, is if they have the threat covered with some unknown alien technology.
Seriousness aside, I have no idea what these UFO cranks hope to accomplish. Even if they were right, do they honestly expect the administration to come out and say "ok, you guy's got us. We just want to get everything into the open and get you people off our backs!" It's as if these petition stunts are nothing more than mental masturbation for these guys that just love to hear people in power acknowledge that they even exist.
Joking aside, seriously......someone really needs to get on that asteroid problem.Call me paranoid, but with the very real threat and inevitability of another major asteroid collision that would, at worse, destroy all of mankind and at best severely inconvenience us…the only reason that the government wouldn’t make finding an effective intervention for that scenario priority 1, is if they have the threat covered with some unknown alien technology.

Seriousness aside, I have no idea what these UFO cranks hope to accomplish. Even if they were right, do they honestly expect the administration to come out and say “ok, you guy’s got us. We just want to get everything into the open and get you people off our backs!” It’s as if these petition stunts are nothing more than mental masturbation for these guys that just love to hear people in power acknowledge that they even exist.

Joking aside, seriously……someone really needs to get on that asteroid problem.