doczoidberg:I heard a report on this today, and the narrative was that couples living together is less of a taboo than it once was.

I thought, "Is it still a taboo AT ALL?"

If so, then for fark's sake, people in this society need to grow up and understand economic realities. It makes more sense for a couple to live together these days.

Yes, because it's so old-fashioned not to want your child to be born a bastard. Living with someone with whom I wasn't going to procreate was one thing, but when you get serious and decide to have kids you should do the right thing.

happydude45:doczoidberg: I heard a report on this today, and the narrative was that couples living together is less of a taboo than it once was.

I thought, "Is it still a taboo AT ALL?"

If so, then for fark's sake, people in this society need to grow up and understand economic realities. It makes more sense for a couple to live together these days.

Yes, because it's so old-fashioned not to want your child to be born a bastard. Living with someone with whom I wasn't going to procreate was one thing, but when you get serious and decide to have kids you should do the right thing.

Why is getting married "the right thing"?

My girlfriend has kids from a previous marriage and I have two as well. What is "the right thing" for us?

stuffy:My girlfriend tried that on me once, but the wife would have none of it.

Once I broke up with a long term girlfriend with whom I had a child. She told me she was going to try and claim common law marriage so I had to pay alimony. I reminded her that she was still married to someone else.

happydude45:doczoidberg: I heard a report on this today, and the narrative was that couples living together is less of a taboo than it once was.

I thought, "Is it still a taboo AT ALL?"

If so, then for fark's sake, people in this society need to grow up and understand economic realities. It makes more sense for a couple to live together these days.

Yes, because it's so old-fashioned not to want your child to be born a bastard. Living with someone with whom I wasn't going to procreate was one thing, but when you get serious and decide to have kids you should do the right thing.

doczoidberg:I heard a report on this today, and the narrative was that couples living together is less of a taboo than it once was.

I thought, "Is it still a taboo AT ALL?"

If so, then for fark's sake, people in this society need to grow up and understand economic realities. It makes more sense for a couple to live together these days.

Seriously, THIS.

A professional pearl-clutcher of my acquaintance got all upset because my fiance and I were 'shacking up' together.Aside from the economic situation, we were learning if we could actually stand living with each other.Dates are nice, but what happens when the plumbing goes kablooey, or one of you gets a nasty oozy cold, or forgets to go shopping, or to take out the trash and it develops sentience or all the other stuff that happens in Real Life?How are you going to deal with it?

Things are going to come up and you're going to fight, that's a guarantee, but how are you going to fight? How are you going to resolve these fights?

Stark bottom line: What are you willing to put up with?

I gently informed P-C'er that this was a test-drive, not a shack up.After two years, it was obvious that this was not going to work. Former Fiance and I went our separate ways...still on speaking terms.

FTFA: "Even though they didn't see marriage as a serious option for now -- in part to avoid the additional stress of planning and paying for a wedding, she says -- neither was having Pulte live on her own as a single mother."

Don't let this stop you from getting married, if it's what you want. It's pretty cheap to grab a friend for a witness and go find a judge at the courthouse. If planning and paying for your wedding is too stressful, perhaps your planning a too elaborate and expensive wedding.

happydude45:doczoidberg: I heard a report on this today, and the narrative was that couples living together is less of a taboo than it once was.

I thought, "Is it still a taboo AT ALL?"

If so, then for fark's sake, people in this society need to grow up and understand economic realities. It makes more sense for a couple to live together these days.

Yes, because it's so old-fashioned not to want your child to be born a bastard. Living with someone with whom I wasn't going to procreate was one thing, but when you get serious and decide to have kids you should do the right thing.

jst3p:happydude45: doczoidberg: I heard a report on this today, and the narrative was that couples living together is less of a taboo than it once was.

I thought, "Is it still a taboo AT ALL?"

If so, then for fark's sake, people in this society need to grow up and understand economic realities. It makes more sense for a couple to live together these days.

Yes, because it's so old-fashioned not to want your child to be born a bastard. Living with someone with whom I wasn't going to procreate was one thing, but when you get serious and decide to have kids you should do the right thing.

Why is getting married "the right thing"?

My girlfriend has kids from a previous marriage and I have two as well. What is "the right thing" for us?

"Us" meaning you, or "us" meaning your children? You seem to have trouble making the distinction. I bet if you asked them, they'd prefer to be with both their original parents and not have to compete for attention with strangers and their children. But you won't ask them; you'll just do what's best for "us."

doczoidberg:I heard a report on this today, and the narrative was that couples living together is less of a taboo than it once was.

I thought, "Is it still a taboo AT ALL?"

If so, then for fark's sake, people in this society need to grow up and understand economic realities. It makes more sense for a couple to live together these days.

There are still plenty of fundamentalist landlords in the more rural parts of this country who won't rent to unmarried co-habitating couples. I personally know a couple that ran into this just a couple of years back. Only about half of all states prohibit marital status discrimination. So yeah, it's still a thing.

Needlessly Complicated:happydude45: doczoidberg: I heard a report on this today, and the narrative was that couples living together is less of a taboo than it once was.

I thought, "Is it still a taboo AT ALL?"

If so, then for fark's sake, people in this society need to grow up and understand economic realities. It makes more sense for a couple to live together these days.

Yes, because it's so old-fashioned not to want your child to be born a bastard. Living with someone with whom I wasn't going to procreate was one thing, but when you get serious and decide to have kids you should do the right thing.

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Outside of Game of Thrones, you really don't hear the term "bastard" thrown around too often to describe a child born out of wedlock.

ThighsofGlory:jst3p: happydude45: doczoidberg: I heard a report on this today, and the narrative was that couples living together is less of a taboo than it once was.

I thought, "Is it still a taboo AT ALL?"

If so, then for fark's sake, people in this society need to grow up and understand economic realities. It makes more sense for a couple to live together these days.

Yes, because it's so old-fashioned not to want your child to be born a bastard. Living with someone with whom I wasn't going to procreate was one thing, but when you get serious and decide to have kids you should do the right thing.

Why is getting married "the right thing"?

My girlfriend has kids from a previous marriage and I have two as well. What is "the right thing" for us?

"Us" meaning you, or "us" meaning your children? You seem to have trouble making the distinction. I bet if you asked them, they'd prefer to be with both their original parents and not have to compete for attention with strangers and their children. But you won't ask them; you'll just do what's best for "us."

"Best" went out the window a long time ago, I wont bore you with the details but the marriage was not going to work and I decided it was better to have my kids see me in a functional relationship than have my kids watch mom and me in a bitter and tension filled co-existence for their sake.

Don't spend too much time worrying about my kids, I assure you they have a happy life.

jst3p:Russ1642: What do they think about trying to get pregnant before marriage because a wedding is just a pain in the ass.

If they are willing to deal with a different pain in the ass they wont get pregnant.

I'm talking about couples that WANT to have children outside of marriage. We don't think marriage is really needed to keep us together. We're either going to be happy together or not and being married doesn't change ANYTHING except how much you have to pay a lawyer if you split up.

happydude45:doczoidberg: I heard a report on this today, and the narrative was that couples living together is less of a taboo than it once was.

I thought, "Is it still a taboo AT ALL?"

If so, then for fark's sake, people in this society need to grow up and understand economic realities. It makes more sense for a couple to live together these days.

Yes, because it's so old-fashioned not to want your child to be born a bastard. Living with someone with whom I wasn't going to procreate was one thing, but when you get serious and decide to have kids you should do the right thing.

Being a bastard is a matter of marital status at conception not birth, dumbass

AFKobel:AngryDragon: FTA: "No longer taboo, living together has become a more common arrangement for America's couples who become pregnant while dating "

Is that the new euphemism for slut with a dumbass boyfriend? I get my politically correct terms confused sometimes.

I agree with "dumbass"... is the girl a slut for having sex?

I just picked the first name that popped into mind. Is idiot better? I know if I were a woman I would make damn sure I didn't get pregnant if I was having sex and not married. Just as, as a man, I make damn sure I don't get anyone pregnant.

syzygy whizz:doczoidberg: I heard a report on this today, and the narrative was that couples living together is less of a taboo than it once was.

I thought, "Is it still a taboo AT ALL?"

If so, then for fark's sake, people in this society need to grow up and understand economic realities. It makes more sense for a couple to live together these days.

Seriously, THIS.

A professional pearl-clutcher of my acquaintance got all upset because my fiance and I were 'shacking up' together.Aside from the economic situation, we were learning if we could actually stand living with each other.Dates are nice, but what happens when the plumbing goes kablooey, or one of you gets a nasty oozy cold, or forgets to go shopping, or to take out the trash and it develops sentience or all the other stuff that happens in Real Life?How are you going to deal with it?

Things are going to come up and you're going to fight, that's a guarantee, but how are you going to fight? How are you going to resolve these fights?

Stark bottom line: What are you willing to put up with?

I gently informed P-C'er that this was a test-drive, not a shack up.After two years, it was obvious that this was not going to work. Former Fiance and I went our separate ways...still on speaking terms.

If this is something that happened in real life, I'd LOVE to hear that story...