Seattle Woman Parks Car In Cycling Lane, Gets Confronted

originally posted by: Tompdx3
I agree with you. Bike riders need to shut their pie holes about cars!! Until they pay for a bike license and road taxes on their bikes they have no
say about roads, period. Here in Oregon they get everything given to them and don't pay a dime for it all as far as I know.

Now they can run through red lights as well as stop signs "if it is safe" , and that applies to motorcycles as well I think.
Crazy! They need to pay for the roads like the car drivers do if they use their bikes on them. I don't care if they own a car and pay taxes, those
are for the cars.

I don't drive, but as a pedestrian, the obvious entitlement complex attitudes from drivers in the last decade drives me up the wall. You DON'T own
everything your wheels touch, sorry -- you SHARE it. I have zero issues sharing sidewalks with bikes, why do drivers have to make it so difficult for
cyclists? Pay effing attention to your surroundings, stay out of the bike lanes, and be courteous. Trust me, if more drivers actively did any of that,
both cyclists & pedestrians would be extremely receptive to & thankful for the gestures. But no, drivers instead feel the need to hang their heads out
windows & yell at both. Screw off! I have the right of way at the crosswalks when it says "WALK", not you. Waiting 10 seconds is not going to be a
detriment to your day, wait for me to at least get past your continuing lane before you honk, creep behind me & rev, a-holes. Your horn is not going
to make my stiff joints bend any faster.

I am so sick & tired of people thinking 4 wheels & an engine = better than thou.

Yeah but they go to far! and they make these nike lanes difficult for cars to navigate the raod. the bicyclist even have their own speccial lights.
I am sorry if i think that is ridiculous. that they have their own special light.

a reply to: Tompdx3
There is no such thing as road tax. There are gas and vehicle tax. Gas tax contributes 35% vehicle tax 20%. There is about 40% non automobile tax that
contributes to the roads. So you hatred towards other road users is not justified. Here is and example for you to help you out. So even people without
cars or don't use bicycles(AKA pedestrians) Help pay for the roads. This cyclist don't pay road tax stuff is everywhere the US, Canada, UK. Angry
motorist spout the same line. I wonder why that it is( Don't care attitude maybe) Get out of my way I have somewhere to be.

Two neighbors each pay $300 annually in local taxes that fund roads and
traffic services. Mike Motorist drives 10,000 miles annually on local roads,
while Frances Footpower bicycles 3,000 miles. The table below compares
the costs they impose with what they pay in taxes.

Non-drivers pay almost the same as motorists for local roads but impose
lower costs. As a result, they tend to overpay their share of roadway costs.

Say you own a car. You’re shelling out an average of $9,519 this year, according to the American Automobile Association (most other estimates
are higher). Some of those costs — a percentage of gas, registration, licensing, and tolls — go directly to pay for roads. And it hurts. You
doubtless feel every penny.

The thing is, that money only pays for freeways and highways. Or it mostly pays for them — a hefty chunk of change for these incredibly
expensive, high maintenance thoroughfares still comes from the general fund.

Yeah but they go to far! and they make these nike lanes difficult for cars to navigate the raod. the bicyclist even have their own speccial lights.
I am sorry if i think that is ridiculous. that they have their own special light.

How do they do that, exactly? They're much thinner than a car lane in most areas, and to me, seem dangerously narrow (a car can still clip a cyclist
in their own lane)

And please, show us an example of a cyclist stoplight. I've never seen a cyclist light, and I live in a pretty cyclist-heavy area.

For the most part, roads are paid for by "road centric" fees like tolls and gas taxes, but there is a sizable chunk of the transpo budget in most
states that is paid for from "general revenue." In a nutshell, everybody pays for the roads, but motor vehicle drivers pay more. And the gas tax
makes up a good bit of the "road centric" collection.

Some posit that the gas tax is so high (aside from the obvious money grab) to try and discourage people from driving so much. And do things
like....ride bikes

what sidde am I taking?? I am saying I dont like most bicycle people becaus ethey have these types of attitudes

On the flip-side, I can say I detest drivers with your attitude as well. When you're having a cow over someone confronting someone over
blocking the flow of bicycle traffic in a legal bicycle traffic lane, you're not helping your argument any and merely backing up the assertion that
most drivers think with their heads up their mufflers.

The protected two way bike lanes have stop lights that tell bikers when to stop and go. In addition, on blocks where vehicles can turn left,
traffic lights have been installed for drivers. A red arrow indicates cars need to stop and a green arrow mean cars can go.

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