Michael Caputo. In fort Tom -- year -- news radio 930 WV yen. John Taylor and others if you go out there were only talking to one John Taylor John Taylor from west Seneca. And it's straight that's huge. But talk W. You have 93 minutes to call 644987590. Threat of 93 minutes John Taylor. If you do. You're gonna qualify forty. This is actually all about your furnace that's the right for my furnace contest and you're if you're calling here in the next few minutes to. You'll win free. Furnace to an up and we qualified for wrong it's going to give away a 5000 dollar. 5000 dollar. Furnace and cooling system from primer on heating and cooling John Taylorwest Seneca and 93 minutes 6449 -- -- five. Or you're gonna miss the opportunity. I'll tell you know I I hear about these common core standards that everyone's talking about at the at the big meeting what's New York yesterday. These federal standards for education. That are really setting people often I'd -- -- recognizes story. The -- -- The one of the examples of this curriculum that is really sparked two recent outcry. Was a grammar exercise. And that they use the sentence the commands of the government must be obeyed by at all. That was worksheet given the fifth graders in Texas and around the country. And I wonder I mean why first of all with the use that to teach grammar that's very unusual sentence to use. And is it intend to -- -- -- I don't know I mean -- but some I I I just watched my daughter suffer through this testing. On common core in in medium market in the point -- in Cheektowaga. Am -- missing the point on common core. A lot of people are are not that bad in the wrong and it a lot of it now to problem is. -- Where vote got it right there. And apparently you know -- -- signing -- to these streets when great. And that you go to picture today teacher and teachers are our future I hit it right right I see it. Certain that that's backward -- -- -- does not -- our seniors. People parents that they would become part partner. -- apparently hit by. Our kids are -- up in a girl like that OK don't it would be all that and meaning what that are what you like it'd. Like the upper level in the oil is bought out rapper since it. If you weren't that straight at a better upper level which it all right now okay why he wanted to -- the -- college. People wanted to get better they get better or they want what's for pre prepared and parents out there. And teachers -- -- as teachers. We gave up last. Probably. Useful to teacher who was on somebody who gave -- crap. -- work what they or aren't they knew how -- predict cooler for the trapped or is it public. Teachers have not been doing your job so what we're doing is every time to -- -- -- There -- to say how are. Reading that -- Care about whether you tell them what the story it. That's actually the book that ought now. To watch. Out. What you felt when mr. that it that it's. Why at the beach and the ticket buying. Out. I want to a lot of work -- a lot of work. Force to do that now which distract correctly. As well. -- -- their lives fact that they're. And all that ought to Obama. -- In street are reluctant while it's straight and it should be at that level. Really that I I found that would be pretty dense stuff. But what that's what I understand that you get out of -- you grapple with all of the source. But the bank you know these people with a -- like that which you -- it or not that big deal to have one. Just don't care or -- that -- very and you figure out what that means. I get. -- -- that anymore. -- -- it's different rate in six straight in the country collapses and having that aren't that. Because. Emotional part of it before or throw all the pressure. -- to keep our thing great about what they do now and that's where the future art book are. -- -- After that it does at the score reflects on the ability to teach about what there is elections plans. Are pretty much -- they're satisfied because they -- to -- that tactic and -- the -- percent the way. Right right opera you'll understand why they're doing right they're trying to put a measure of accountability into the teaching profession. And I think of it there's a lot of support for that. Absolutely what the parents that are far eclectic art not giving. My kid is so al-Qaeda. Well that's what its banks that it an adult and -- -- like. And I -- kids shouldn't be that way. -- other countries in the world look at Asian countries under leaps about how to convert or what we used to do with our children contact our. Our nation is is dropping like a stone on -- on the in the rankings have education across. It all goes back -- -- brought up their -- district. Well rob now you're talking. Mr. rob thank you very much for calling it another caller here Caron it was a teacher. Our rob thanks you know started with proper but you're what do you think this problem common course stuff. I agree exactly everything that got. It's kind of parent that unfortunately most of that teachers never get -- right including Robert included Robert and on and -- Negroponte sixty. -- -- -- Anyway. Another subject and the important injured that are at that there are and what we need to do on my effort in your country I'm in school I think -- computer at this. With people from Africa and they're telling -- same -- -- as well they're saying people in America don't get it. We read that it's actually accountable in. You're you're all of the that -- That liberals. Buffalo New York State have really in the education system ruined it. I grew up on the greens are and -- -- about it on Massachusetts Massachusetts is very high Antonia. In English standards and I'll put it then because they -- that we need time to attack. However I -- each region impact all of them that the chemistry. In -- and they were at hairy to a certain extent. But -- -- stealing credit to my local language Korea they started what I like to graduate school picnic 98. It it doesn't work the kids can't can't feeling they need to be right now -- him down diary can talk to the parent. Get the impression they're trying to turn teachers into our guidance counselors and and and like. All of its OK I can't just say that I have always felt I advocate I'm a liberal conservative OK and I have -- about. It is the parent can -- if they did what they need sentiments and then of course are right like we call our eight everything it's -- on guys. We -- education for the parent counseling session it to school with the parents and Italy. Is what we need okay in. And pick the man who is in charge there. Well at one of my principal when I was there I go back in the -- increased your style. The thing isn't it. We need to bring a current standards for sure okay and however they can do that it works that they need to do it yet but all the feeling at this taking time away from. The important -- We need to get the kids reading writing arithmetic it's early it's possible they need to be strong and it report again that -- a school there tested and they are not strong in support again. Well they should not be allowed in that I will he get that it will not get through regions and a and a region that answer dummy down or not what they were. Oh and I'm absolutely actually got a reason scholarship and in my father thought it was worse. You know back in 1980 it was actually -- something. Yes it -- and it's still it's been good at the cute that I get in school that were good in the city school okay we decay into that with their grandparents. Was -- with educated parents educated mothers who had a good support network where kids who went to Catholic or private school. But forward high school voted against the prepared advocates were pushed into high school. We're not prepared and I can't tell you how many time I had a dollar for every time up they'll likely that look at. You're -- white woman I don't listen I'm not valid that you I'll put them on money balance in the U. Number one number two I'm gonna be dead or in jail by the time when he and a -- -- excellent at and I had to teach -- and ninth attempt great. In a court which. Ot we're aboard they had to do their -- English or their social it's totally there were the other way around I. And it and it held more accountable from the very beginning his did not at the -- that it that they're reading apprehension ilk that its actions ilk. He didn't have the tried and I had to retreat to my clip to get the drive. They want to transcribe it could -- other kids -- -- for them. He and I and I won honors its one year and I got everybody through and I I am led -- And every day I lived here like my period today and it may entire year and I bumped into our kids over the years. And I tell what it's done and I bumped into somebody like did not -- it wasn't matters but at the well when I was there. And he had I recognized you and he's that I won the I want it but it turned out. If you educated and he's done well and the worst thing ever thought I had a good girl about a woman and I know how hard it is for women. Are right and I I you know who go to any woman who. Is working and taking care for irrigation can't you are right but we learned that sixty have been totally bull crap but anyway. And you have the support network once they make it to want to get grandmothers and aunts and uncles that are out there about and at the end is that -- -- always -- traditionally in the American in the immigrant. Culture and it's still. So you -- in the city. I did teach in the city I had to quit. Or are you presently -- their principles. That principled. Work or the okay the only principle that we're good with the principles to work to teach them out. Right they know they knew where it was yet. They knew what was at the theory that did that the English culture studies they don't they only now he keeps to their attacks in the junior year. Senior year and when they -- that he would. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Ninth grade biology and and create it -- equity should be the other way around the way to do it in the suburbs. In I started out -- earth science they can't negate the buy out achieved in the back it's helped quarterly poorly. Prepared. That I literally couldn't I was banging my head against the while I was on tranquilizers antidepressant. I ended up in the hospital I couldn't take it anymore -- sounds it was a -- the ball and I will tell you right out -- the principle that -- eighty honors. Has earned act in life. Well listen it's it's it's never easy teachers darker I grew up and get people like him teachers they -- very -- Thank you very much for putting all the time in behind mr. -- Thank you for the -- -- up -- that he would. Off course. Of course this is Michael Caputo in forests four -- Tom barrel on the radio 930 WEB. However back it's forty degrees. -- and welcome back to the Tom showed mrs. Michael -- for Tom -- is on vacation. With you through Friday. -- we talk about common core and I know that. There are a lot of people out there and distrust -- in the comes out from the government. Are we here at 8030930. Star -- -- curious mean -- is your kid. Overwhelmed by this whole common -- and seeing it now more so than and previously -- -- it's happening in 45 states in the District of Columbia. Texas kicked out but you know there's a lot of -- questions about the materials mean I was just reading in the last few minutes. That there is a grammar sentence used call in the sentence once. The commands of government must be obeyed ball. That sounds a lot more -- Our class in Beijing then as apparently it was fifth graders in Texas the commands of government must be obeyed -- -- having problems with this common core. Are your kids suffering through is something that you support Natalia. Give us a ring at 8030930. Start 930 I have a lot of respect for Jeb Bush idea I think we've seen enough bushes in the White House. Probably one too many but I have a lot of respect for Jeb Bush. And I made a point of going to see him speak in Washington is working a couple of weeks ago in Eastern Europe and strongly strongly. Defended become import and talked about the common -- awaited charter schools around. And it's it's really reading a lot of contempt I'm I'm hearing more I guess. What I hear is moderate Republicans Republicans focused on education is the court issue guys like -- bullish. Are seeing common course of -- need to stick to and then conservative. Leaning politicians think common core is is something it's it's a step too far. We have Debbie on the line from Kent -- -- you're a teacher. Tell us what you think has come off. -- -- -- Of course I I have that book in in my in on my -- in my living. At Obama China. With a common core. Well -- is with -- that the that the elections that he's giving them is trying to bring prop wash them. And usually his liberal Democrat way of thinking that does not work is not American is not what America what they've done. And it is not gonna work -- work on -- up further and further and further behind the -- -- allowed the people that are going to reach urged the people that are going to school there. The people that are getting somewhere and the people from other countries are coming over their own money their country's money. In the hours. They are they getting that information they're taking it to their country and -- with Democrat. Right right in and outside of that we I saw. Recently a study that showed that Americans drops so will I'm nations like Indonesia. You know and I mean Japan actually isn't -- is as high up as they used to be a lot of Asian culture into. Ali at the right idea when an integrated but now right now -- they're they're not -- as well as -- to the -- kids now because you know it is picnic and much in the American quietly and that's why are right he the American including its not working premier -- for anyone out the either. When I was in grade school we learned about quality is -- one word quality used up one. As I can't remember that -- -- and change but there without him at two world or Q did you and did in and became Toyota. Which -- sun. AL and elbows that get well letter and and I am sorry and I bet because they let them and that that you work. An odd journey that they -- the end it and and there are its work if you taught any child can I network. I -- -- the international school it was Grover Cleveland and I had it to rely and a lip was -- -- one. Torn country is to pretend I'm better off than in the can like it there my answer. I hit it from Cambodia I get to turn Vietnam. Russia -- and all of it's in your country's eyes -- -- from Malaysia. I think in -- -- on its from -- -- and who didn't even. English and we're better students than Americans in. Well I'll tell you David thank you for Carl and I it's I've I prefer reality here from teachers. On this topic and education for thank you -- Speaking caught currently right now so I can't speak specifically come on court every teacher I know it's against it because it is trying to program teachers and the kids. In a way that Obama want to thank Obama's way isn't working out and it Sheridan and a Workman feature is there. Well thank you -- for Conan you know in the world history textbook that has been approved by the common -- there's a whole chapter. Devoted to Islam and no chapter devoted to any of religion. Interesting that this is Michael -- in for Tom Bauerle. On news radio 930 WB. And we're back prices might -- In for Tom hourly or newsreader at 930 them again we've been talking a lot about education common core. I've been reading about this concourse that education is a privately -- at least commit. Education. And -- -- for education objects. And I'm I'm one of the believers out there that thinks that if we can't educator kids we can't do anything -- In fact give me an idea the very idea that we are failing half of the children from many buffalo schools. Explains why companies don't move here because we don't have. A a work I'm sorry we have a workforce that's educated enough in order to do modern manufacturing in modern jobs it's just. We don't have it if there if Democrats are kids were not putting together workforce and so we don't need some kind of dialing something in order to -- The quality of education United States it is in. Of the toilets there's no question and the common core standards sort of effort to do data although people are seeing. All kinds of things behind the scenes here I've noted that the book called world history it's a common -- -- high school history textbook. Has an entire chapter dedicated to the virtues of Islam but not a single chapter. For example about christianity. And people down in Florida are freaking out about it which account for and believe that state and beat. A lot of callers here at 8030930. Start 930 on yourself on are not happy with the with the government is steering this. But of course I have my -- Allenby -- -- align their Alan. Allen is blogger. For our art voice as well as an attorney extraordinary Allen is very you're very involved and your own child's education and -- very -- Clinton's education efforts. There was talk yeah tell me what you think that previous colleague you seemed. A little bit put off by. But here's the thing I mean I think people. We here in America we have a big problem raising. Just facing big societal issues like education health care thing like that. Not just facing them but but figuring out a solution. That's been a bit and work and people will sort of generally get -- We it would obamacare and we it would common core. The caller earlier Debbie and more. Like and common -- a mind. And back gets tackled that's like all. Well you do you have you kind of like mine confident coming -- not good results that. It's -- you know I think. I think getting bogged down in. Making assumptions about people -- -- and it is exactly a long way to go out talking about problems. And solutions that we have with -- and with -- or look I don't know enough about common ordered -- -- or love it. I know that it you know being implemented I know that it intends. Isn't too you know eliminate. Jewelry from -- world. Like my income was but instead you get -- is a peace education throughout all this state. Let me say this the island Amaechi is that she's a teacher these former teacher and and we have seen you know I think -- big growing handful. Of examples of some pretty argues. Of of you know teach -- we talked about earlier I think you probably were listening when I read there is. A sentence in the grammar section of a common core text it was saying the commands of government must be obeyed by at all. I mean. It's true. The commitment from government at a cocktail below where you don't have the all over. Well I think about it -- it's that kind of thing you know -- alike and it red China or not. Just -- TV OT I mean let's let's just say this -- -- -- -- that maybe that's bad example but when -- I worked in -- in the -- -- them in Nicaragua. Our during every news station in them in a border camp with with the conference. And we would send them in for regions India and Nicaragua. To take down the Communist enemies is a one time we have that we refugee camp next. And -- of the of these this -- came out of the -- into the camp from. Deep in the -- they were brought with them their textbooks. And their textbooks to kill the children were adding and subtracting AK forty sevens in the textbook. And you know we -- that we we we were gassed by that not because they were learning how to add but there will be a learning how to add and subtract AK 47 machine guns and it's it's there's some insidious nature back. No absolutely it. You're talking about indoctrination and you know you tell me about my error and all my cousins they've all. -- -- think marxism and in grade grammar school that was you know it's its requirement but you know it. But the question the question really is whether or not. You know it's an egregious. Apart theory of democracy and freedom. -- -- Poses a grabber like that. But that teach again at a used proper grammar and whether or not it diplomatically correct sentence without you know what been out about you know that the -- -- what. But that's provocative so I mean would somebody besides at that needs to be in. In a textbook they know that people come out and go crazy when I was leaving them affordable for moved back to buffalo is -- in Miami. They I think you might remember. They had a textbook that was issued in Miami schools was talking about Fidel Castro and loving him in and light. And that the people with -- and when the biggest problem was not that the book was bad but they knew what was provocative. Abuse that petitioners -- avenue to -- textbook right in front of the world I mean these are these are solvable problem that's is that thing. You know I mean you are ideally that would my own kids you know they always an issue and the first question out of timeout as. Is that the problem that culpable all of these problems are solvable I think the greater the greater problem that we have. At this society isn't it get bogged down in the minutia of you know how -- -- and grammar question or whether or not you know it's in Dearborn Michigan might have a textbook that -- something about Islam and it. You know it the issue is. How do we get kids. To poorer. Well how do we get kids to get good results at this school I don't know what common or is the answer. I will be given its rockets. Well I'm willing to considerate. But I do know that a lot of the teachers and a lot of what aaron's. And that is that the body bipartisan misses and left and the right -- sure I know a lot -- -- and a lot of right parents that don't like common core as the testing and because New York implement it wrong. But you know let's put all the economy. -- -- you know it you know little help all of us in -- is all together now. Pizza pizza. Pizza brings -- Beat that beat the -- that we got our hands. Bob Weir and shape. -- tribunal at the reason -- bring that up because I just realized I invited -- but then go on to the -- our nation this must be first. Because you guys have been feuding a little bit here and there but I do remember I I've I have I I went back and forth about never met -- seen since the eighties the Tom. I sent me an email after you were on the sandy beach -- with me he said you know listen I know we disagreed -- -- and -- Tell them I really want some of these Greece was pizza so if you went. And eat that if -- didn't go and and Tom -- can get together over pizza. Perhaps we can all get together rupees. Agree absolutely and he and I birdies and an invitation when the heat oven comes back out as boring you'll you'll have so. Are really so you're you're gonna invite Tom barrel every your house secrets piece of where you invite me. -- didn't have problems with Greece I can I can eat greasy pizza. Or. Allan thank you very much for for Carl and I really appreciated. You know -- come towards it is is that is a tough as a tough call I mean. Like I mentioned that -- when I was -- done in Central America the education and the standards of Nicaragua were all tilt toward teaching people things. In the realm of socialism I don't know how important -- I haven't dug into enough. The idea that there's a chapter on one of the approved textbooks on. -- new chapter on Christian any kind of you know of the commands of government must be obeyed by all as a grammar statement. That. That kind of makes me a little bit nervous I don't want my kid to think that commands of government must be obeyed and it would -- saying he says we have to be the least. But -- I don't of that. I I I I believe in my child should should Obey -- reasonable means government I believe my child should group liberty and liberty and freedom. And that's sentence comes -- that. -- -- comes out of mounts -- on some things it's just. It's ridiculous so we're talking common -- here got a couple of callers who wanna talk about this will be back to do that a few minutes this is Michael. The -- in for Tom -- on news radio 930 WB ENN. I'm back it's Michael Caputo in four. Tom hourly on news for -- at 930 WB and our telephone -- -- threes in thirties starting thirty. On your cellphone we've been talking about education in particular these common core standards I was lucky to have. Assemblyman David -- call -- during the 4 o'clock hour and talks about the meeting yesterday. Here Western New York was hosted. By assemblywoman. Jane Corwin a discussing the -- the lot of people through the assembly minority is upset about it now I actually was able to locate a page. From one of these common court textbooks. The one that actually the was being. Bandied about earlier in the hour talk to the sentences of the wants of on the that the sentence that said. The commands of the government officials must be obeyed by all it's actually an exercise in grammar and obsessive now owns. They're asking of this student to change the sentence the commands of government officials must be -- obeyed all too. Government officials commands most view paid well. Another since there is the job the president is not easy a president's job is not easy in the way it should another one that really bothers people. It is sentence that is corrected to say the president mixture of the country's laws are fair. And another one and individuals wants are less important than the nation's well being I'm sorry this is not the country where I live. I don't know I'll tell you. We've got damp from west side. Dan if you hold on for just a moment we're gonna go to traffic and will talk you hear about public education. Four degrees in buffalo getting -- cooler. Here on WBN. News radio 930 this is -- who go forward on a telephone numbers years it'll 30930s. -- 930. On your cellphone. We were just about talk that -- on the west side we talk about public education in what's your opinion analysts. Little it -- remember. Well. For office or or -- American public education and apple world. On Sunday and -- will work so it's so and so they hurt. Social radical. Alternative you don't end -- So old socialite and application picketing and so all of her life we've got. Of course we won't hurt you running all the major cities since the Second World War. I'm not looking to change honorary chair and of course -- bullish. Supporting -- you know there's. -- actually decreasing which. Brother. Succeeded in going after conservatives -- Look. -- all the education ninety. All. Sorts of their own little slow. You know little bit slick that we're all those that -- -- of -- Well I'll tell you did you know it's interesting the secretary of education in Washington. Arne Duncan. He's. You know 11 part -- part of -- wanted for his work and education. But yesterday he when I think it was yesterday he was interviewed. Insane. The question was you know this is causing quite -- quite a stir up there this common core stuff what do you think and he said it's a bunch of basically am I'm paraphrasing it's about to soccer moms who were suddenly. I realized their child isn't as Smart as they thought he wants. I mean I mean may become -- -- out to be trying to improve things -- Arne Duncan isn't helping much. -- When you look at who will. The settlers there and you are and not you know I mean you -- -- -- kind of oil out the signal. Regrets act or does all of this all the and judgment. And while there are a lot out there so. I thought he also. And made statements so it is the only. Cooperate. So -- and then we could call extra. Right that's true -- Dan thank you very much for -- are really appreciate you know. We have. A debate -- going on WB on common -- and and I think it. We have our whole for our panel of callers. Here it's something that we're gonna get to momentarily just come course that was really the people how does that affect your kids calls at 8030930. Or are you also start 930. On yourself on Natalia. I watched my kid my eleven year old kid. Study and other -- glad when she was just on break from new York city schools -- issues visiting from New York City. And her friends here in east world. Are worth studying as hard and and I wondered what that was and I understand that the top nine now understand that testing poultry in New York City. It has been around a little while the people. The leadership of education your city has been trying to teach to tests give their kids up their scores up. Off for quite sometime it's actually worked rather well in New York City. But I -- PC market disappear when she should be trying it may be. Reading a book of it's more interesting than these rules that she goes through these text. From Manhattan. But were to talk more about common core here a few moments wonderful panel calls -- -- get you very shortly this is. Michael approved or I'm in -- Tom barrel earlier -- and united thirty WB Ian.