Well, that settles it then. Pull the thread and ban everyone on it whom you disagree with.

Apparently you prefer to empower our political enemies with lots of juicy material that is easy to find. The evil creep got shot by another evil creep. By any standard of conservatism, that isn't justice under the rule of law, but such is how it is being lauded here.

As to pulling and banning, I didn't ask for any such thing; it is dishonest and hyperbolic of you to suggest that I did. I did suggest that it is not good for FR to have a thread like this on the Breaking News sidebar because so many of the views expressed stray from conservatism toward mob vengeance. I stand by that opinion.

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posted on 05/31/2009 11:00:23 AM PDT
by Carry_Okie
(There are people in power with a passion for evil.)

His killer has done more to advance the political strength of the abortion industry than any other act imaginable. The killer is every bit the scum Tiller was

This killing should bring to light the monster this man was to those who live comfortably in this country in the shadow of thousand upon thousands of our unborn killed on a daily basis.

The majority of the country is against partial birth abortion and Tiller was the champion of it. This is a good opportunity for the pro-life movement to shed more light on the atrocities this man has committed over his lifetime.

And I don't share your whacked out opinion that Tiller's killer is as bad as he was, I'm sure the Left will be making that case, you need to be able to counter it.

To tell the truth, the only thing that’s surprising is how little violence there is or ever has been in the pro-life movement, since many legitimate avenues of protest open to other groups are prohibited to us and even when we succeed in getting a law passed, it’s overturned by activist judges. This means that pro-lifers are constantly being pushed to move outside the law.

But the moral law remains in effect for us, and we cannot accept doing evil - murder, destruction - of any kind for the sake of good. Pro-lifers take the sufferings on their own bodies - such as the 83 yr old priest who was taken off in cuffs at ND - but do not inflict them on others.

Still, the fact remains that when the government has set up a situation where there is increasingly less of a way for people to change the law or even protest it legimitately, there are going to be people who get pushed too far.

That said, it’s still possible that this was a personal grudge or something that had nothing to do with abortion. That’s what I’m hoping for, at least, but since Tiller’s entire life was “about” abortion, I’m not very optimistic.

Just 'Dang'. Whatever Tiller *deserved*, this killing just made Janet Nappy's DHS memo a truism. And the RATS will seize on this 'shooting tragedy' as proof that 'right wing gun nuts' and pro lifer's ARE domestic terrorists and need to be 'dealt with'.

Tomorrow's news shows will be full of left wingers, from the Brady Bunch to Planned Parenthood, demanding more gun control laws and laws negating 1st, 4th and 5th Amendment Rights of Pro Life org's.

And I can just see Eric Holder's brain spinning on new ways the DoJ can screw us over. And especially Rahm "Let No Crisis Go To Waste" Emmanuel. He's prolly on the phone now with Hairy Reed (sic) and San Fran Nan on writing new laws asap.

Even if the shooter was a leftist moonbat Obama voter and this was about adultery. They'll use this for pushing gun control and getting all medical (mental) records in a gubmint database pdq.

So this sucks, big time.

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posted on 05/31/2009 11:01:19 AM PDT
by Condor51
(The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)

"Sadly, though, he probably has an assistant who will be proud to carry on the evil work."

Yep, Dr. Kristin Neuhaus who worked hand-in-hand with him, and was cited in the lawsuit for violating the state's laws on late-term abortions. He was aquitted by a jury, but right after the verdict, another complaint against him for the same thing was brought to light. Apparently he was never charged on that one.

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posted on 05/31/2009 11:04:48 AM PDT
by mass55th
(Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)

...and you would not protect innocent human beings from being murdered...by stopping the person about to perform the murder?
You equate the lives of unborn children as the same as children (okay, anyone that has been born) playing in a playground?
If that’s the case, why aren’t you out physically stopping people who perform abortions?
From your perspective, shouldn’t you do everything in your power to stop an abortionist as you would a madman killing children on a playground? What is stoppping you? The law is stopping you? From protecting innocent children?

Maybe Tiller just got shot randomly by some wacko, or by a friend or relative over some money or something.

I wouldn't even be shocked if some leftist group ordered the hit on Tiller to create a backlash against the pro-life movement, which has clearly been winning in the polls of late. My guess is that pro-deathers wouldn't mind sacrificing one of their more extreme members for political gain.

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posted on 05/31/2009 11:05:48 AM PDT
by Ol' Sparky
(Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)

3) The most important reason: Whoever murdered Tiller likely took away his chance at repentance. That is the most tragic part of all.

I'm not excusing the killer. But Tiller had a whole lifetime to repent. And if he did not repent, that was his choice. The Bible is pretty clear on this. Nobody knows the day or the hour of our death, except God. Therefore, it is unwise to go walking around in a state of mortal sin.

And that's also why Catholics ask Mary to "pray for us now and at the hour of our death."

God is merciful. He extends His mercy to all. I am sure that Tiller has had many opportunities to repent. And perhaps he did repent at the last. But for everyone, the time runs out, sooner or later.

Also I could see Obama linking Tiller’s assassination with Sarah Palin’s pro-life speech in Evansville in an attempt to marginalize her pr0-life views and perhaps accuse her views of causing Tiller’s death.

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