*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 7 - Sundays on HBO

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Game of Thrones is a television series on HBO based on the bestselling A Song of Ice and Fire series by George R.R. Martin. Game of Thrones is an epic, high fantasy series about the fight for control of Westeros which was inspired by The War of the Roses in medieval Europe. Though it's been labeled as fantasy, Game of Thrones is more about the struggle for power and family dynamics than it is about typical fantasy tropes like magic and elves. As co-producer and writer David Benioff put it: ”If you have to just pick one word to describe it, it's the word &#8216;power' and how it affects those who are pursuing it, and how those who already have it try to retain it, and how those who are caught in the crossfire between the two are mutilated in the process." In addition to complex characters living in a well thought out and developed world, the story boasts plenty of violence, sex, and other adult oriented content.

The seventh season premieres Sunday, July 16th at 9PM on HBO. Season 7, which will consist of 7 episodes, will be followed by a 6 episode final season to conclude the series. HBO is also working on a variety of spinoff ideas, but those will not enter production until after GoT finishes.

HBO's Press Release:

HBO said:

Summers span decades. Winters can last a lifetime. And the struggle for the Iron Throne continues.

It stretches from the south, where heat breeds plots, lusts and intrigues, to the vast and savage eastern lands, where a young queen raises an army. All the while, in the frozen north, an 800-foot wall of ice precariously protects the war-ravaged kingdom from the dark forces that lie beyond. Kings and queens, knights and renegades, liars, lords and honest men...all play the 'Game of Thrones.'

An original series based on George R.R. Martin's best-selling 'A Song of Ice and Fire' series.

1. Why are there only 7 episodes this season and 6 episodes for the final season?

The scope and scale of the show has increased significantly from where things began, and they don't have the time, money, and other resources to produce more episodes in a year. After Season 6, Benioff and Weiss felt that 13 episodes would be enough to conclude the story, and crafting 7 one year and 6 the next fit the production timeline that they could achieve. Keep in mind that the episodes in season 7 are going to be longer than average, and the 7th episode of will be 81 minutes long.

2. What's going on with the spinoffs on HBO?

HBO has five potential Game of Thrones spinoffs in the very early stages of development. They're currently fleshing out ideas and beginning to work on pilot scripts. They won't make all five of them - it's likely that only one or two will see the air, and HBO is going to finish GoT well before any of these premiere. There's a lot more information in this thread.

3. Why do we still have two threads for the tv show when the show material is past what has happened in the books?

The two communities (non-book readers and book readers) have developed separately and served different purposes over the years. The book readers thread involves A LOT of book discussion, and the two communities don't play well together, generally speaking. For this reason, we've decided to continue to keep the two of them separate as the show finishes up over the next couple of years.​

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The season starts on July 16th at 9PM, and will continue each Sunday after for 7 episodes.

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I was rewatching some of season 4 on HBO the other day and Season 4 is so good- the stuff at the Wall, Tyrion's trial, the Mountain and the Viper, Stannis coming to save the day with his cavalry charge- it's all real good. And it seemingly leaves everything in an awesome spot for an awesome season 5.

Which makes trying to watch Season 5 so horrible. Season 5 is just such hot garbage by and large outside of Hardhome. It's largely boring and the quality of the writing and plotting is just really bad. And of course that's the season that won all kinds of awards?

Season 6 is good in the sense that stuff just happens and you have so much spectacle and production value in everything. But my one qualm with the show is how they just seem to fast forwarding everything now to wrap this up in 13 episodes or whatever they shooting for. Clearly, without the books as a detailed roadmap, the showrunners just have some bullet point list of things from GRRM and they lack the chops to really glue all those plot points together like you had in Seasons 1-4. I just have a hard time thinking that the last 2 books which will likely be enormous tomes, don't have enough material to merit more than 14 episodes. There likely is, its just that the showrunners want out now that the blueprint of the books has dried up.

It's mostly all spectacle at this point, which is fine- it makes for entertaining TV. I'll just be disappointed when GRRM finally finishes the series (lol) and we'll likely never get an adaptation of all the wildly different and more fleshed out events from his last 2 books.