“Rape and incest was used as a reason to oppose this,” Winder said on the Senate floor. “I would hope that when a woman goes in to a physician with a rape issue, that physician will indeed ask her about perhaps her marriage, was this pregnancy caused by normal relations in a marriage or was it truly caused by a rape. I assume that’s part of the counseling that goes on.”

If Winder’s bill becomes law, a victim of rape or incest, or any woman with a medical emergency who needs an abortion must first obtain an ultrasound and then the state will disclose to her a list of abortion providers. In Idaho, free ultrasounds are available via “crisis pregnancy centers” whose entire mission is to dissuade abortions. After this free ultrasound a woman would then have to obtain from a doctor a second transvaginal ultrasound if she is in her first trimester of pregnancy. And even if she averts her eyes from the ultrasound image and refuses to listen to the fetal heartbeat, she would have to hear the doctor describe the fetus in detail.

There were 84,767 reported “forcible rapes” in the United States in 2010–a number that does not account for statutory rape, incest, or a host of other sexual violations. Sen. Winder, like Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) before him believe women are abortion-seeking liars and will punish them via legislation accordingly.

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114 comments

Chuck Winder needs to be evicted, government has no business getting into this issue at all! Leave it be and let the women decide what they want to do. It's their own business, not anyone else's. ( I'm a republican that wasn't dropped on his head as a baby)

A woman might take a morning after pill that is IF she could get one from a pharmacist who, by the way, has the right to deny her one, due to his or her religious beliefs. More assault on women's reproductive rights!

how about this idiot Chuck Winder, be raped with the nosecone of the SST and then tell him he has to have non-necessary testing up front before he can even see any medical help in an ER, but he also has to wait 72 hours before he is allowed to go to the ER. then he will have to be asked all kinds of embarrassing questions and more worthless testing and then given an appointment to see a psychiatrist, appointment 6 months from now and then come back after tons of counseling and provided he passes all these hoops he has just been made to jump through, he can have his legal and repairative surgery, provided he has not bleed to death by then.

If Chuck was a women who went to the ER beaten up and obviously shows signs of rape, or has severe hemorrhaging from complications of a pregnancy gone wrong, perhaps he would understand a little more of the reality of these situations, that by playing their B.S. games women can die, but with him being a republican, I think it would be futile to get him to even understand the truth to begin with. And in some states it is okay to allow the woman to bleed to death due to a COMPLICATED PREGNANCY, JUST AS LONG AS THE BAB Y IS DELIVERED AT 9 MONTHS, REGARDLESS OF VIABILITY.

"It's because of people like this that I don't hang out with old people,,,especially old men,,,",,,,,,,,,now, now, Gary A! I think you are older than this jerk and I know I am, but while I'm not a man, I'm also not insane.