Author
Topic: Throne of Bhaal Unfinished Business (Read 58925 times)

Personally, I find that....a little bizarre. Since Bhaal was completely under Ao's sway, where does he get off constructing his throne in a place where Ao (and, therefore, himself) would have no power?

Ao doesn't allow deities who're more powerful than demigod status to have their main place of residence in the Realms, so it has to be elsewhere . BTW Bioware placing Bhaal's throne in the CE Abyss is yet another large boo-boos of their's: being a LE deity, his home plane is actually Gehenna. Deites have most power in the plane they're currently in and the Prime world(s) on which they're worshipped, but they can grant spells to priests on other planes (see below).

Unfortunately I don't think there are any official publications detailing relationships between gods of one world and other worlds, so if anyone wanted to create a mod where an FR god called upon his non-Realms allies to do him a little "favour" or whatever, they'd just have make it up .

Quote

Ah--you mean the "outer deities" could interfere with Realmspace creatures while they were outside Realmspace, yes?

Yep, if a deity has no connection to the Realms, Ao would be powerless to launch a reprisal against them if they decided to (say) kill the PC while here were in the Abyss. So f.ex the Greyhawk deity Hextor or the Dragonlance god Nuitari could happily slay our hero, were they so inclined.

Quote

And would priests of FR gods have power while they were outside their deities' sphere of influence?

Deities can't grant spells on worlds in the Prime Material plane that they're not worshipped on, unless they have specific permission of the "local" gods. Many gods are worshipped on multiple worlds though, e.g. the Elven god Fenmarel Mestarine and the Halfling deity Urogalan are both worshipped on Oerth (Greyhawk) as well as in the Realms. I believe the Drow goddess Lolth is supposed to be worshipped on hundreds of worlds.

When it comes to planes, this is just off the top off my head, but IIRC the further from the alignment of your deity's home plane you are, the less power they can grant you. So if a priest of the LG deity Ilmater were in the CE Abyss, that'd be Good->Neutral->Evil, plus Lawful->Neutral->Chaotic. Meaning the priest would be four planes removed from their god, and thus their spell casting would be limited to level 3 or lower... unless their deity decides to come along to that plane (which is very unlikely to happen in this case). This is just from memory though, and I seem to remember it being a bit more complicated than that. I'm sure someone else will come along who knows more than me regarding the subject .

fallen demon

druid grove in tethyr. I dont have any proof of this in terms of rescued files, but both Jahiera and Cernd came from druid groves in the area (safe to assume the same one) and in an early soa lovetalk Jahiera expresses intrest in returning to tethyr. So it seems like there should have been a sidequest or at least some dialouge related to the subject.

TheHound

adding to the list at the start of the post originally if u carried sarevoks sword through to tob it got an upgrade so he could use it but that was cut. the original upgraded sword is still in the game

adding to the list at the start of the post originally if u carried sarevoks sword through to tob it got an upgrade so he could use it but that was cut. the original upgraded sword is still in the game

Whatever you include in the ToB portion of UB will be much appreciated not to mention downloaded post haste Be assured that most of the folks who play this mod and others are forever indebted to all involved. If you make a mod they will download it I personally thank everyone involved in the creation of UB

as the readme indicates that this serious ToB stuff is still in the future, i'll go ahead and sling in my tuppence...

Quote

-Sarevok's remorse for Tamoko

yesyesyesyesyes.

Quote

and Yoshimo

? i definitely missed something here. what - you tell him the story of the geas &c and he dwells on it and - knowing the feeling of a bound or irretrievable soul, i suppose...

Quote

-Mazzy's redemption of Korgan

meh, kind of inclined to dislike that idea, but... dialogue can surprise me, y'know? as long as it's cheeseless... seems to me like it'd have to be pretty clever to tweak/sidestep korgan's temper; it'd have to be really deed-centered, not ever hinging on debate (i mean, he's not exactly wired to be contemplative, if you disagree with him that's just another excuse to snap)

Quote

-The Cold Mistress in Saradush

abso-flippin'-lutely. saradush has way too little going on.

Quote

-The return of Yoshimo (not likely...)

i understand... although to be able to choose this event over a new Power, perhaps... my first time in the pp, i felt a surge of hope when i saw him on The List... even after the let-down, there was a residual thought of 'well, would they really have bothered to put him on the list if there was NO WAY you could get him back?' and of course the answer is yes, but...

Quote

-Saemon disguising party as monks

cunning! i like. although - for what purpose exactly? another alternative to entering the monastery to confront balthazar? or [infinitely preferable] an earlier infiltration / reconaissance scheme?