Pondering the same question... read the last 20 pages or so and couldn't anything definite.. i know the general consensus is "play the spec you like" but im torn b/w destro / affl as my MS in light of the changes in 5.4 (granted i haven't had the chance to play too much since it dropped) ... was wondering if any destro locks who tried affl can tell me their feeling on this? should i make the switch?!?

edit* im currently destro and am saddened by the nerfs of the spec... but am intrigued by the boosts of affl

Pondering the same question... read the last 20 pages or so and couldn't anything definite.. i know the general consensus is "play the spec you like" but im torn b/w destro / affl as my MS in light of the changes in 5.4 (granted i haven't had the chance to play too much since it dropped) ... was wondering if any destro locks who tried affl can tell me their feeling on this? should i make the switch?!?

edit* im currently destro and am saddened by the nerfs of the spec... but am intrigued by the boosts of affl

Well i enjoy all 3 specs but i played destro for a while and i prefer to play demo/affliction this patch. I was on vication for a while and all my guildies friends are 545 item level and now that i am back I don't want to be boosted through SOO and i want to try the most optimum spec at my item level in order to help them out

25 Man Garrosh: Even if you don't AoE in p1 (BrM monk tank + usage of Ironstars means probably wiser to just burn the boss) beyond RoF for embers and some Sburn sniping, destro is suprisingly good for the whole fight.

And yeah if you do AoE p1, omg.

At some point we'll see some ridiculous parses when people blatantly pad and AoE minions in P2 and 3.

Thanks, zumzum... this is what i feared :-( ... havent ran affl since pre-cata

While I agree Destruction is pretty behind on single target fights, there are definitely fights where it can still be competitive. If you are a good player, you can still make destruction work on multi target with good Havoc / Shadowburn usage and gaming of embers with Shadowburn. On single targets, you will probably be middle/bottomish, but these situations few and far in between. All in all, play what you like/what you're good at and you'll probably get the best results unless you can put forth the time to get good at affliction.

I don't know if I'm right on this but it feels like the big disparity between a back drafted Incinerate and a non bd'd Incinerate is what makes the spec feel slow. It prevents us from stacking haste because we go sub GCD so easy?

I do feel like I can't cast my chaos bolts fast enough to take advantage of Procs. I can't sneak Incinerates while stutter stepping as easy. Maybe the damage/cast time ratios of back drafted and non BD'd Incinerates could be addressed?

Even with RoF nerf there are things to SB snipe off of so I don't feel ember starved.

Dammit, just when I was almost ready to do something else of my nights -_-
They wake up far too late but at least they do something. I guess their tools didn't see that situation coming !
10% buff to Incinerate, 5% buff to Incinerate, ember generation buffs... it's like if there wasn't a PTR.

Dammit, just when I was almost ready to do something else of my nights -_-
They wake up far too late but at least they do something. I guess their tools didn't see that situation coming !
10% buff to Incinerate, 5% buff to Incinerate, ember generation buffs... it's like if there wasn't a PTR.

It's like the entire warlock community was quiet and thought the changes were great. Turns out we were wrong, silly community, we should have spoken up!

Strike me down for defending the dev team as they don't seem to plan anything ahead of time, but we have aff who is great, demo which is more than competitive, and now destro "might" also become competitive. Wonder how many classes can say they get the same care for 3 different specs.

What is the haste amount that you need to hit the GCD during hero on incinerate? When I play destro with my current affliction build (9800 haste > m > h > c) it just feels so much better than m>c>h. It just feels like I am generating a lot more embers and with my two trinkets (currently wush and toxic totem) it feels like every time I fire a chaos bolt I have something up. Shrug, I don't have any numbers or anything to back up what I am saying since I raided affliction, it was all just feels.