You predicted they would have to trade guys to fit under the cap. But I am not getting it? Where have these trades been? And will they be coming soon?You also said Brown can't be resigned.Stay away from predictions involving the Leafs. They will clearly use LTIR and there is nothing wrong or unusual about it. Teams like Arizona have been using it to cheat the cap and save $.And to correct yet ANOTHER thing you said is wrong, you're trying to spin it as some lucky break Marchenko signed in the KHL. He did so because the Leafs placed him on waivers because they signed better players and he wouldn't crack their roster.

The grizzlies? They're doing great here in B.C. They kill and eat the tourists from southern Ontario who get near them to take selfies and try to tell the bears how wonderful a city TO is. Great for population control.

You predicted they would have to trade guys to fit under the cap. But I am not getting it? Where have these trades been? And will they be coming soon?You also said Brown can't be resigned.

What part of before opening day do you not understand

... what other parts of the this did you not understand:

I guess the Leaves can put Horton/Lupul on LTIR and sign Brown right away

... but that doesn't mean it would be the prudent thing to do.

It's complicated, but to be able to use ALL the capspace LTIRing Horton/Lupul could provide

... Leaves, at the very least, need to trade away a lot of salary before opening day.

In fact it would be idiotic not to trade away a lot of salary.

Are you stupid Forest?

BigTuna wrote:They will clearly use LTIR and there is nothing wrong or unusual about it.

I dunno about "wrong" or "unusual" but how 'bout S T U P I D.

See there are smart ways and stupid ways to use LTIR.

But of course this is something you will never comprehend...

BigTuna wrote:And to correct yet ANOTHER thing you said is wrong, you're trying to spin it as some lucky break Marchenko signed in the KHL. He did so because the Leafs placed him on waivers because they signed better players and he wouldn't crack their roster.

Yes because every one-way-contract player placed on waivers immediately signs in the KHL !

You predicted they would have to trade guys to fit under the cap. But I am not getting it? Where have these trades been? And will they be coming soon?You also said Brown can't be resigned.

What part of before opening day do you not understand

... what other parts of the this did you not understand:

I guess the Leaves can put Horton/Lupul on LTIR and sign Brown right away

... but that doesn't mean it would be the prudent thing to do.

It's complicated, but to be able to use ALL the capspace LTIRing Horton/Lupul could provide

... Leaves, at the very least, need to trade away a lot of salary before opening day.

In fact it would be idiotic not to trade away a lot of salary.

Are you stupid Forest?

BigTuna wrote:They will clearly use LTIR and there is nothing wrong or unusual about it.

I dunno about "wrong" or "unusual" but how 'bout S T U P I D.

See there are smart ways and stupid ways to use LTIR.

But of course this is something you will never comprehend...

BigTuna wrote:And to correct yet ANOTHER thing you said is wrong, you're trying to spin it as some lucky break Marchenko signed in the KHL. He did so because the Leafs placed him on waivers because they signed better players and he wouldn't crack their roster.

Yes because every one-way-contract player placed on waivers immediately signs in the KHL !

Kadri on Lupul: "I think he's ready to go and I think he's excited about the season."

@mirtle 7:15 AM - 22 Sep 2016 (EDT)

Statement From Joffrey Lupul

“IT’S WITH DEEP REGRET THAT I WILL BE UNABLE TO ATTEND TRAINING CAMP AND START THE SEASON WITH THE LEAFS DUE TO INJURY. I PLEDGE TO WORK HARD WITH A VIEW TO RETURN TO PLAYING THIS SEASON. HOCKEY IS THE ONLY LIFE I HAVE KNOWN. THIS IS AN EXTREMELY EMOTIONAL TIME FOR ME. ACCORDINGLY, I WILL NOT BE MAKING ANY FURTHER COMMENT AT THIS TIME.”

no surprise that both Nathan Horton and Joffrey Lupul failed their physicals, so they won’t make the team this year.

As for Lupul, it’s more surprising that the Leafs have gotten away with it for the second year in a row, considering his social media has seen him managing his injuries just fine. It seems like the Leafs won’t get in trouble for it though...

Jared Cowen is not happy with how he was treated by the Toronto Maple Leafs.

“I wish teams would have more of an interest in taking better care of their players instead of whatever their goal or mindset was there,” Cowen said in an interview with Adrian Dater of BSN Denver.com. “Basically, they got me, figured out that I was hurt, they didn’t want to deal with it and they got rid of me.”

Over the last coupla years other TO players have been mistreated in various ways including:

The NHL won't even blink. Some teams are allowed to cheat. Some players are allowed to cheat. But hey it's all within the rules and unless Bettman wants to call someone out for using the rules,to circumvent the cap, well nothing gets done. But we get the Luongo rule. Even though Gillis acted perfectly within the rules.

Trading injured players for cap space or for getting to the cap floor is cheating buts it's allowed.

Hockey Widow wrote:The NHL won't even blink. Some teams are allowed to cheat. Some players are allowed to cheat. But hey it's all within the rules and unless Bettman wants to call someone out for using the rules,to circumvent the cap, well nothing gets done. But we get the Luongo rule. Even though Gillis acted perfectly within the rules.

Trading injured players for cap space or for getting to the cap floor is cheating buts it's allowed.

Why the PA isn't doing something I don't know.

The Canucks did this for several years under Gillis/Gilman, and it was brilliantly effective.

The PA won't do anything about it because Lupul still gets paid, while the Leafs can go over the salary cap to pay another union member NHL dollars. The Union should be all in favour of cap circumvention.

You're not likley to see much whining or complaining from the owners until the Leafs really get an advantage from this. Kind of like how the Luongo rule became an issue when top-teams were leveraging it to widen their competitive advantage (Chicago, Vancouver, Detroit etc.).

Lupul and Cowen bitching about their situations speaks volumes about their loyalty to the club and Toronto's treatment of their players. I don't think you'd ever hear Salo or Bieksa talk that way if they had to undergo extra rehab so the team could stay ahead of the cap.