The “very scary” Iranian Terror plot – Salon.com
Greenwald with his usual viciousness on the fake Iranian plot recently. I know he’s got a couple real good ones on the case against Iran in general but I can’t currently locate them. I’ll keep looking,

What is scary is the current regime isn’t even concerned that its ramp-up to attack Iran is EXACTLY like the former regime’s ramp-up to attack Iraq…,damn near point for point. You would have thought they’d try to spin it as being totally different from the Bush assault on Iraq and at least use a different game plan. It’s like they’re saying “yeah, we know the American people know what we’re doing, and we don’t give a damn. We’re going to do what WE want to do, and to hell with the mundanes.”

Pmasonjr

What is scary is the current regime isn’t even concerned that its ramp-up to attack Iran is EXACTLY like the former regime’s ramp-up to attack Iraq…,damn near point for point. You would have thought they’d try to spin it as being totally different from the Bush assault on Iraq and at least use a different game plan. It’s like they’re saying “yeah, we know the American people know what we’re doing, and we don’t give a damn. We’re going to do what WE want to do, and to hell with the mundanes.”

http://twitter.com/AminCad AminCad

Why is the US so worried about Iran, while countries that neighbor Iran, and are on the same continent, like India, China, Pakistan, Russia, and Europe (even the UK and France nowhere near to the extant as the US) are not?

This tells you that US foreign policy is irrational and motivated by propaganda from manipulative special interest groups.

Chomsky is always a good resource on foreign policy
http://www.chomsky.info/articles/20100702.htm

Anonymous

I think that is what Dr. Woods intends to layout (just a guess).

Anonymous

I think that is what Dr. Woods intends to layout (just a guess).

http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Zmirak/738297908 John Zmirak

This isn’t student council, so I’ll vote for myself: http://antiwar.com/orig/zmirak.php?articleid=8454

http://twitter.com/AminCad AminCad

I’m suggesting that the fact that the major powers near Iran are not worried about the Iranian threat, at least nowhere near as much as the US, which is on the other side of the planet, is evidence that the fears about an expansionist Iran are unwarranted.

I like going back to historical precedent set by Saint Francis in choosing to pursue peaceful dialogue with the Muslim Sultan Malik al-Kamil in the midst of a Christian Crusader siege as told in Paul Moses’ “The Saint and the Sultan.”

http://www.saintandthesultan.com/about.html

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1506960013 Daniel Briggs Boyd

Step 1. Take a deep breath. Step 2. Say “I am not afraid of my shadow nor am I afraid of Iran.” Step 3. Remind yourself that America is the ONLY nation to ever use a nuclear bomb on another nation. Step 4. Say “I do not support preemptive war, but Hitler did.”
Step 5. Remind yourself that Iran has zero nukes, but Russia has ~2500.
The US has ~2000. France ~300. Israel ~300. China ~180. UK ~160. India
& Pakistan ~100 each. Repeat as necessary. No more war!

Anonymous

Step 1. Take a deep breath. Step 2. Say “I am not afraid of my shadow nor am I afraid of Iran.” Step 3. Remind yourself that America is the ONLY nation to ever use a nuclear bomb on another nation. Step 4. Say “I do not support preemptive war, but Hitler did.”
Step 5. Remind yourself that Iran has zero nukes, but Russia has ~2500.
The US has ~2000. France ~300. Israel ~300. China ~180. UK ~160. India
& Pakistan ~100 each. Repeat as necessary. No more war!

http://www.facebook.com/gviaud George Viaud

While this is not an article in itself, I would suggest that such an article would be one that instead of trying to make the best case against war with Iran, one that tried to make the best case FOR war with Iran – such an article (being factual and non-persuasive) being the best way to prove that War with Iran is nonsensical. We would no sooner go to war with a lost tribe in Kenya as they would have equal ability to deliver such a weapon to our doorsteps let alone ability to manufacture or reason to use the same.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=49903057 Ed Dehm

In this brief video Scott Horton (of anti-war.com) dispels the myths of Iran’s nuclear program. He quotes UN reports that show Iran is not developing nuclear weapons. www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb4etdm86Qg

You’re assuming there is a difference between the Obama regime and the Bush regime. Bad assumption ;). Seriously there is so little difference between Demicans and Republicrats at this juncture I’m not sure why they don’t just join forces…. oh wait then how would they squabble over the couple issues they have no reason to resolve just to get reelected.

Brian

Here, in a two minute video, Rick Santorum says that he, as president, would support a preemptive strike on Iran. He gives the usual neocon reasoning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=esrHIhDIFbs

Martin Brock

Scott Horton is my hero. He done more to revitalize my libertarian ideals in the last few years than anyone else could have, and I’m sure he’s even more inspirational to younger people. [I’ll be fifty in January.] Horton is bright, articulate, well informed, idealistic and, best of all, self-taught. He works through the podcast medium rather than more formal channels, but he’s a first-rate scholar out of the mold of Eric Hoffer, and he attracts top-notch guests to his podcast by sheer, unadorned merit. I’ve supported Antiwar.com for years now largely thanks to Antiwar Radio. If you aren’t a regular listener, you presumably don’t know what you’re missing, and I don’t care where you sit on any political spectrum, one-, two- or ten-dimensional.

NJDave

http://lewrockwell.com/paul/paul777.html

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=2221480 Paul Petrides

Fox News Center Seat with Ron Paul. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsUxowtiu3g
A specific case was not given, but when asked about Iran’s threat level…
Fox News: “Is there any situation, congressmen where you would send our troops abroad?”
Ron Paul: “If our national security was threatened.”
Fox News: “But if Iran has a nuclear weapon and is potentially threatening us…”
Ron Paul: “Did we attack Russia or China?”
Fox News: (silence)
Ron Paul: “They had a lot of nuclear weapons and we didn’t attack them.”
Fox News: (silence)
Ron Paul: “That was a thousand times more dangerous.”

Silence is deafening sometimes. We only fight wars against countries who have resources that we want. Why else are we not as active in preventing genocide in Africa? We only fight wars against countries who lack the means to defend themselves. Why else did we not attack Russia or China?

Martin Brock

I didn’t remember this url earlier, but Scott Horton is interviewing Flynt Leverett right now.

http://www.raceforiran.com/

Brian

Here, Bill O’Reilly drools over the idea of attacking Iran’s leaders with a drone strike. The blonde legal guru says it would be constitutional because nobody pays attention to executive limitations anyway.

I would not say that the linked article is the best case against war with Iran, but it does make for an interesting bullet point.

Title: “Hit Iran In The Brain”

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=12689

Adam L

Here’s something that just appeared on foreignpolicy.com today. http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/11/07/trouble_over_tehran

tiarosa

How much worse will things get in this country before people realize who the real enemy is?

Anonymous

I think the most compressive is the Cato Institute Handbook for Policymakers Iran
http://www.cato.org/pubs/handbook/hb111/hb111-50.pdf

The PBS interview with General Paul Paul Van Riper has some interesting stuff in it. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/pentagon/interviews/vanriper.html

That last brings up Operation Millennium Challenge in which General Van Riper crushed Force Blue (that represented the USA) while commanding Force Red (using unconventional tactics and assets available to a rogue Persian Gulf State….( read Iran). In the simulated battle, Van Riper inflicted massive casualties on Force Blue including the sinking of 16 US ships.
http://www.rense.com/general64/fore.htm
also:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002

Van Ripper embarrassed the Pentagon brass so much they re wrote the rules to ban the use of unconventional tactics by the opposing force! Like an enemy would agree to rules on playing nice???? …..Hilarious.

Van Ripper earned my respect along with Col (ret) Douglas MacGregor and Andrew Bacevich amoung others. We’ve had some truly great leaders in our military. Most never get to the highest ranks. Those are reserved for political generals of dubious competence.