"A neo-Nazi and/or white supremacist threat to American democracy exists only in the heads of those who read Marvel Comics for news and think Twitter is a medium for sentient beings." -Rex Murphy

Bwahahaha well he's an idiot!

But sure I mean if Antifa was as bad as the Nazis I assume they've murdered someone at a protest, burnt a church, maybe even shot up a church... nope, all nazis.
What this tells us is that too certain folk, the fear of unruly kids is worse than their fear of government boots on their throat, I wonder why?

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"the black-masked “antifa” militia... They smashed cameras and sometimes the faces of reporters, chased down old people, executed beat downs on isolated protestors, mauled passersby, in one case threatened a man in a wheelchair, and in general stormed the streets like a wolf pack after a long hunger and a really bad hair day."

Yep that sounds so much like the cops, it's amazing that's he's not fearful of the police, and the fact they kill people. No instead he's worried about property and the safety of nazis.

Yeah he's not going to just say it, instead he's going to say both sides are equal, but worry exclusively about how violent one side is without delving into the reason or circumstances of their 'violence.'

It's amusing watching people write about Berkeley as if they aren't just regurgitating what news has told them and then thinking really hard without doing any research themselves. I doubt he actually knows what the black bloc is, besides a boogie man by the press.

Zezoze, lucky, well off, and very baked, with a comfortable home and happy disposition, seemed to unite some of the best blessings of existence; and had lived nearly thrity-one years in the world with very little to distress or vex him.

looking at the time, i don't think i was high at all when i wrote that. I don't smoke as much anymore with a change in hours and the kids and all that...more a Steve Miller thing.

reading back my replies i wonder what it was that made you make such a prejudiced remark? is it because so many people around here say it? i mean it is common around here to simply dismiss me as high when you disagree with me, much like a white bigot might dismiss the opinion of a black person as it would obviously be uneducated and inferior in their mind. you are feeding a stereotype you really know nothing about. you don't know me, but you make this disparaging and sweeping generalisation about me based on...what your friends say?

i think your side and their side should find common ground in your hate and disdain for your fellow human beings and work from there.

It was a paraphrase of the opening paragraph of Jane Austen's Emma, and by doing that I was calling into question, well, here, this says it better.

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Originally Posted by MLK

And what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last few years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice, equality and humanity.

Part of a speech where he was pointing out that to condemn civil unrest, one must also condemn the conditions that led to the civil unrest.

These two sides you reference are on the one side, "We intend to oppress or kill you." On the other side, "We will not allow this to happen." They are not the same thing or even remotely equivalent, and tranquility and staus quo isn't a thing anyone gets to have in the long run.

it is common around here to simply dismiss me as high when you disagree with me, much like a white bigot might dismiss the opinion of a black person as it would obviously be uneducated and inferior in their mind. you are feeding a stereotype you really know nothing about.

it is common around here to simply dismiss me as high when you disagree with me, much like a white bigot might dismiss the opinion of a black person as it would obviously be uneducated and inferior in their mind. you are feeding a stereotype you really know nothing about.

i think Rex is right about the reality of the threat Nazis pose to America. to me it seems the left just uses broad strokes to paint anyone exceedingly conservative to be a racist nazi. this justifies the actions of the left to effectively put the boot down and get away with it.

that said, i am no fan of nazi assholes. that is a very obvious thing to be against.

but to be against anything on the left just makes you an ally of nazis.

it's genius, but then that's the left.

the way i see it, both extremes would prefer a world without the other side, regardless of any politics or philosophy. one group of people wishes to see another group of people cease to be. anything beyond that is a distraction to the fact.

so, am i high?

totally possible.

also possible i'm not.

whatever the case i am better than you. nana-nana nana-nana boo-boo. stick your head in doo-doo.

Z is right it's not as if America has an unhinged nazi sympathizer as president who has been putting his 'america is for the rich and white' cronies in power or anything.

A question we should be asking is are conservatives ok with the nazi takeover? Many seem fine with it through in action or blaming the liberals for grouping them with the nazis over blaming the nazis for existing.

Let's not forget we're talking about people who want anyone else exterminated. Not argued with over a cup of tea or a bong. Murdered, dead, or enslaved.

you need to give the majority more credit. stop looking down on people not as smart as you. most people these days are educated enough to know the evil of Nazism. Trump is not a nazi or a sympathizer. Trump is an opportunist who doesn't want to alienate any votes.

it is common around here to simply dismiss me as high when you disagree with me, much like a white bigot might dismiss the opinion of a black person as it would obviously be uneducated and inferior in their mind. you are feeding a stereotype you really know nothing about.

Dismissing my dumb-ass opinions is, like, the real racism.

lol.

though in here it is.

totally blithe.

but white boy has a dream...

You realize I don't think you're literally high all the time, right?

I was, however, serious when I said your opinion was dumb.

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Originally Posted by ZEZOZE

Trump is not a nazi or a sympathizer. Trump is an opportunist who doesn't want to alienate any votes.

There is no avoiding alienating anyone when it comes to Nazis. If you're against them, you alienate Nazis. If you say nice things about them, you alienate most other people (racial minorities, Jews, LGBT people, white people who aren't giant assholes, etc.).

Trump chose to alienate the much larger group of people who hate Nazis, despite it including many people who voted for him (or at least didn't bother voting for Clinton).

The only explanations for that are worse than him being merely an opportunist:

1. he's an opportunist who's also stupid, because he doesn't realize that there aren't enough Nazis to win an election (as of now anyway)
2. he's a narcissist who can't help but be nice to people who like him, even when it makes things worse for him overall (he focuses too much on the people who already like him and not enough on winning over people who are lukewarm, on the fence or don't really like him. Which is a very stupid approach to take when your approval is so low.)
3. he's a racist

I happen to think it's a combination of 2 and 3. He's a racist, but he's been fine with saying bad things about the KKK and David Duke and such in the past. But now that the KKK loves him, he can't bring himself to denounce them or their Nazi friends.

1 is also true, but his opportunism is not relevant to his statements regarding Charlottesville (his stupidity is).