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From: dennis.l.erlich@support.com
Subject: KIM'S FLIP-FLOP (CORR
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tomklem@netcom.com (Tom Klemesrud)
Joe Harrington (joeh@server.nlbbs.com) wrote:
>: I heard of this Dennis, but I've not seen it.
I assume you're referring to the Declaration?
>: The day after Kim resigned from FACTNET OSA came knocking on her door, took
>: her to a hotel room,
OSA agents arrived from the US no doubt, and she escorted
them to a hotel, you mean.
> and over the next two days they spent 18 hours
>: grilling her. At 3:30 am they gave her the affidavit to sign.
She spent 18 hours debriefing to them, you mean. They
constructed (or brought with them) a Declaration to sign
which trashs FACTNET and you personally, Joe.
>: Apparently the new conspiracy story is a new global squirrel group that is
>: going to undercut the Cult and "clear" the planet..
It is a very ugly story, Joe. And you are right in the
middle of it.
>: Giving Kim's emotional state and her status as the lone voice in her
>: country, I hope people will not judge her to harshly.
No, of course not. She's just doin' her job, no doubt.
> I think her statements
>: here should be evaluated by considering the duress she has been under for
>: the past several months.
Fortunately she had a bunch of caring friends (including YHN)
to hold her hand and give her the support she needed to
"recover".
> I don't harbor any bitterness about her action and
That she then turns around, and, on behalf of the scienos,
legally trashes the very people who cared for her, *should*
be ignored. It certainly doesn't surprise me. I've seen it
before.
>: I hope her plight can serve as unfortunate example of the depth of depravity
>: of the organization she took a stand against.
And the unfathomable gullibility of Freezoners?
Tom:
>Perhaps you don't harbor bitterness Joe because you're not being sued,
>and she didn't give a declaration to be used to ruin your life ...?
Joe:
>: KIM: I love you.
Here's a paraphrase of her 17 page declaration. I'm not
gonna type the whole thing in. It has 43 sections. I will
number my summary accordingly.
+--------------------------------+
DECLARATION OF KIM BAKER
(paraphrased)
1-3 I swear to the following: I was a scieno from '90 - '94.
Never staff. In Aug 95 Bob Penny tricked me into being a
Director of Factnet. In Oct I resigned because it was
becoming a hate group which promoted violence.
4-6 As librarian of the Cape Town University I post to the
internet newsgroup via their computers. Through ars and
e-mail conversations I came to know a number of the bitter
critics of scn, personally. They are lying, hatemongers.
But they convinced me to leave the church. At first I didn't
believe their lies, but after I listened to them for a while
even tho I had no reason or personal experience which would
indicate it was correct to believe them, I did anyway because
I was upset and disllusioned with the church.
7-11 Bob Penny involved me in the Factnet conspiracy. Also
involved were Vaughn and Stacy Young, Joe Harrington, Arnie
Lerma, Larry Wollersheim, Jeff Jacobson. They were all
agents of Wollersheim who had control money from the
group. I resigned because I saw that the hatred being spread
would inevitably turn to violence against the scienos.
Henry's bomb threat, being investigated by the police, is a
good example.
11-20 Malcolm Nothling - a fellow southafrican who is suing the
scienos - got a call from someone threatening to blow up a
cultcenter because of the Armstrong decision. Wollersheim
and factnet was supplying Nothling with data. I could see
that FActnet was promoting violence and left. Factnet's
purpose is to spread hatred and violence. And to strip the
scienos of their copyrights by spreading them on internet.
Wollersheim runs factnet deceptively it can defraud the
insurance companies, rip off supporters and steal scieno
sekrits.
21-23 Taneli Huuskonen asked me to get $2000 of the $4500 she sent
to Factnet forwarded to Dennis Erlich, personally. (snicker,
I never knew anything about this and would not have accepted
it). Dennis Erlich was sued for spreading the sekrit
skriptures on internet and was raided to retrieve the
material he'd been duplicating. Brent Stone also questioned
me about his donation. I could not get Larry to give me any
financial info.
24-43 Joe Harrington told me he had founded an independent church
to trick the government and rip off the cult's skriptures.
The church was a total scam. Harrington ordained Erlich and
Lerma, who both were then sued by the church for violating
copyrights.
Everything was a plan of Wollersheim's to encourage others to
rip off the cult. Arnie is part of another hate-group (Liberty
Lobby). The sole purpose of factnet was to rip off and start a
competing church.
Oh, and by the way, Wollersheim is a low-life, scumbag who is
behind the conspiracy.
KIM BAKER
+--------------------------------+
My guess is that the scienos would be quite capable of blowing
up one of their own centers or murdering one of their own
(expendible) staff or members, just to make it look like their
critics are successfully promoting violence.
This ain't no disco.
+--------------------------------------+
Rev. Dennis L Erlich * * the inFormer * *
dennis.l.erlich@support.com + inForm@primenet.com
"tar baby"