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You really don't think so? I think the DW alone has been very kind thus far with tons of the older pokes in terms of competitive use! And that's not taking into account stuff like Eviolite, expanded auto-weather, and at least two or three other things I could probably think of better if I was less tired. XD

But really, competitive use was a big part of what I was thinking when I mentioned that. n_n Maybe I just see things differently though.

There's still the oddball (I'm looking at you Electrode and Castform) who get giant helpings of hate. Aside from that, I agree with you just the competitive people take it too far.

Pokemon has been somewhat weird since day 1 but in a good kind of way.

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What's that supposed to mean? Smogon doesn't make the games, Game Freak does. If Game Freak designs it to be less weird and more like an RPG with an actual storyline, Smogon can't do anything about it.

What's that supposed to mean? Smogon doesn't make the games, Game Freak does. If Game Freak designs it to be less weird and more like an RPG with an actual storyline, Smogon can't do anything about it.

Majority of the older players play for the competitive battling as opposed to the story...yeah, bad point. I'll shut up.

Some of these comments make me lol. Anyway, to answer your question, yes I think some aspects are weird but you learn to deal with them, and overall you realize that the franchise in itself is actually progressing pretty nicely. I've only been playing since End of Gen 3/ Beginning of Gen 4 so I'm nowhere close to what people call veterans, but I am certainly still enjoying Pokemon now, even with its weirdos like Vanillite and Trubbish :/

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Some of these comments make me lol. Anyway, to answer your question, yes I think some aspects are weird but you learn to deal with them, and overall you realize that the franchise in itself is actually progressing pretty nicely. I've only been playing since End of Gen 3/ Beginning of Gen 4 so I'm nowhere close to what people call veterans, but I am certainly still enjoying Pokemon now, even with its weirdos like Vanillite and Trubbish :/

y do people pick so much on vanilite and trubish, i mean srsly, look at grimer, its a pink blob, and then it vloves into muk wich looks exaclty like grimer, at least trubish has detail

I have calmed down my addiction for Ugly Betty. Yay-ish. I had to get addicted to another show....

I have been with Pokemon since it first came out. Watching the Anime as well as playing Stadium, not Red or Blue actually, but Pokemon is not getting ruined. Its just trying out something... different. Everything changes wether be good or bad.

Obviously they have to take it in new directions, I'm one of those people where even if they totally ruined it with 6th gen It still wouldn't bother me because I can just keep playing the older games, I can understand why some people might not like it though.

My cousin got me into Pokemon a year ago and he has been playing since he was 5 years old. Now he's 16 and I'm 13 and he doesn't want to play it anymore because he says it'd ruining his childhood memories since they're "fusing" Pokemon together or whatever is going on with Black Kyurem and White Kyurem. He says he wishes they would just cancel Pokemon so they don't ruin the legacy or whatever. I disagreed but he said that any veteran player like him would agree that they should, so i want to know if what he says is true...anybody?

I've been playing Pokemon since around the time Blue came out in Canada, been playing ever since, and I can easily say he's wrong(About "Any "veteran" player would agree").

More over, Pokemon was weird from the start...I mean seriously...it's not suppose to be some normal thing, there are Animals with magical powers. There was fusion between Pokemon at the first generation anyways(Magneton).

Pokemon shouldn't be cancel, it brings in lots of money, why cancel that? Just because some people don't like the way things are now? That's the same thing for anything that goes on long enough. Pokemon's "legacy" isn't going to be ruined, it's still very popular and will most certainly be for a long time.

It's a game, people shouldn't care about some "legacy", I thought people played video games for entertainment...if you aren't entertain you move onto something else instead of pointlessly complaining about the game.

Pokemon is slowly getting less weird. It's turning into more of a conventional RPG as the story gets more detailed and the mechanics get more involved.

I agree with you on its RPG evolution. I can't help but 5th generation is finally catching up 'story wise' like the legend of zelda (I'm looking at ya, Ocarina of time and Majora's Mask). It is THE YEAR when Zelda is 25 and Pokemon is 15 years old. Both american versions released on the same year. And importantly, we know that pokemon was the student of both mario and link. Read more about the friendship (Master and pupil relationship) between Satoshi Tajiri and Shigery Miyamoto (both are game designers)

Don't believe about the comparison? Here are my personal coincidential compares to both titles.
a. The 6 sages that aided link = the 7 sages that aided ghetsis
b. Entralink music = pokemon's way of celebrating zelda's 25th anniversary. Its music is very medieval, fitting for hyrule. heck, it SOUNDS like hyrule.
c. The skull kid = N harmonica. Both were horribly misled.
d. N's Castle = Ganon's Castle. With castlevania puns that "a wild castlevania appeared."
e. On reference to 4th gen, Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf are pokeversions of the triforce. Wisdom, Courage, and Power respectively.
f. A few 5th gen pokemon can be quite closely pronounced to some zelda monsters.
g. Ghetsis and his clothing = GASP! MAJORA!(commentator flees the scene)
h. If you flip the map of unova 270% east, it surprisingly patterns in someway the world map of majora's mask. Plus a rupee.
i. If you see the trailer in game, is there any other pokemon game that represents an ingame scene on a medieval castle? none; If I recall, personally, it IS another POKEMON'S WAY of celebrating the 25th anniversary of The Legend of Zelda last year.
j. I dunno but I'm guessing Alder would either be like that Gerudo lady you helped, Impa, or Sheik.
k. 5th Gen background music level is par with some of The legend of Zelda's Orchestra Masterpieces, like Route 10, Entralink, Emotion, Village Bridge, White Forest and Black City, Celestial Tower, and the credits music

And really, for the threader, it is natural for it to be weird. like kirby since pokemon is not meant to reflect a certain human culture, but rather an alien culture that is not standard to us humans. yo know the characteristics. Don't blame your bro, human nature diverses