@iflipvans, Needing help is not lol. It is a serious issue. Being addicted to a substance that you know you should quit, but can’t is not lol. Don’t disguise your true feelings about quitting with rationales.

Nicholas Carr’s book is supposed to be really helpful to quit smoking. I never started, so I can not help you further, sorry.

I had all 4 of mine removed and I was a smoker myself, I actually quit a little over 2 months ago and I’ve been fine since, and I was an avid smoker for about 5 years of my life.
to numb the pain without pain killers I bought these pads you put over a bleeding wound and ripped them up and folded them so they were much like a cushion and put them where my wisdom teeth used to be and I would slowly bite sounds painful but it actually felt very good and didn’t ruin the stiching one bit. As for the smoking issue, drink a glass of water each time you crave and try to get your mind off it the moment it happens, sitting there dwelling on it never helps.. Last but certainly not least sleep a fuck load. You won’t be sitting there craving if your sleeping:p

@iflipvans, Take the painkillers, fool. The drug is intended for such an extreme practice of the human imagination. It’s not junky at all to give your body what you’re capable of giving it when the situation calls for it. If you get addicted though you suck. You scared you gonna get addicted or something?

I kind of want my wisdom teeth back. The pain of going through that could have perhaps caused a whole different perspective on life from what I have now.
And my jaw would probably be cut as hell. Any data anyone? Loldata?

@danfontaine, I think a lot of dentists do it for space in the mouth to stop other teeth from pushing forward. I’ve got 2 of mine in though, and have refused to get them removed as they havn’t posed any problems.

@iflipvans, And yes, you really should stop smoking. Anyone I know who has had teeth taken out and has to continued to smoke has had further issues. I really don’t think it’s worth the pain. If you’re serious about it, then keep yourself busy man. Exercise, meditate, read, write, draw, whatever. If you really want to quit you can, just put yourself back in control.

You are aware of the addictive nature of them so you aren’t going to become an addict.

I used to work in mental health and have worked with people who have had codeine addictions. I can honestly say it is one of the worst addictions out there in terms of destroying your cognitive abilities. You are not in danger though as you are aware, unless you have a history of substance abuse?

@danfontaine, I’m already ok. I didn’t need the painkillers… Im no pussy, plus I never liked PK’s to begin with. I had a bottle of tennesee whiskey by my side anyway, so I justnumbed out mymouth before i went to sleep. NOw i got a huggeee blood clot and im going to see the dentist soon

You might have a dry socket, My girlfriend got her wisdom teeth out on new years and had one, it was the most pain she’s ever felt she said, she was miserable for a week until i removed the pain.
A dry socket is when the clot that forms to aid healing gets misplaced and you’re bones and nerves are exposed causing extreme pain. usually this can happen through any kind of suction, like straws or smoking perhaps, until you have a better idea or see a doctor you should really put off smoking for a little bit.
If you can find clove oil at a pharmacy or health food store it is supposedly very good at numbing the pain when combined with olive oil and applied to the affected area.

@iflipvans, So you don’t need to painkillers… because you’re not a pussy? So you used alcohol instead? Think about what you’re saying.

@jakehay, From what he has said in this thread, he seems has a history (and a present) of substance abuse. He’s been addicted to smoking (assume tobacco?) for five years and he also seems to have a dependency on alcohol.

@adamd, Well… I stay away from mostly anything I can stay away from. In doing so, cigarettes are my last fallllll
Um Liquor.. I’m an alcoholic. :( not proud to say, but not afraid to either.
I was put in AA when I was 14.

Now
My father gave me a whole bottle of wine the day they came out. He is a doctor. It was funny because he was kinda tipsy already and telling me that “I’m a doctor, this is medicine. When I got my teeth taken out they gave me brandy.”

@iflipvans, I”m working on becoming a spiritual healer. using meditation and some assistance spirits i literally removed the toothache.
The toothache was not something natural in her body, I understood then that there was something there interrupting her natural flow of energy. I was able to locate and successfully remove the cause of this obstruction.

@iflipvans, I think the alcohol thins your blood. I know you arent supposed to smoke or drink after you take your wisdoms out. However, I did the night of surgery, at a party. Good times.. Anyways, I never felt any pain or whatnot from mine so I cannot relate to your ordeal but if you can tell that something is wrong why do it?