I don't have a lead foot! There was a lot of uphill driving, especially after the CA/OR border, and I did a lot of passing because I was driving too fast for trucks in the right lane but too slow for cars driving in the left lane. (Sorry, I'm not in the mood for a speeding ticket from the Oregon state police). The mileage I got is impressive, all things considered.

And believe me, I wanted to drive into Washington to fill my own gas but my dad wanted me to fill the tank in Oregon for the slightly cheaper prices. I went to the Costco station near Portland airport and got 3.619/gallon. I believe the Costco just across the border was priced at 3.679/gallon.

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The attendant who filled my tank was nice, but he topped my tank off to the nearest dollar, and I wanted to punch him in the face for doing that. I told my dad that next time, I'm taking a five-minute drive across the state border to fill my own **** tank.

Edited, Aug 13th 2013 9:15am by Davejohnsan

...Why?

And people LIKE pumping their own gas? Every time I leave NJ I remember how happy I am it's a full-service state.

(Sorry, I'm not in the mood for a speeding ticket from the Oregon state police).

Yeah there's a couple of town along the highway that actually patrol the interstate looking for out-of-towners to ticket. Something about them being too far away to actually want to come back to fight it and just paying the ticket. One of little towns got in trouble a while back for it IIRC.

I prefer to most of the time, when it's not terrible weather and stuff. It's faster than waiting for the attendant, especially when there's like 10 cars there and only 1 or 2 people working. Your car is full, and that nozzle is sitting there in your tank, taunting you.

I almost never wait. Maybe I would if our stations weren't busy enough to keep the attendants moving. But it's relatively rare, all things considered, to pull into an empty station in NJ. Population density and all that.

On the occasion I have to wait a minute for the attendant, that's what smart phones are for. WAY preferable to having to get out of my car when it's pouring, 10 degrees, etc.

That said, the only times I generally see people topping off the tank is if they're paying with cash. Because people don't really want to wait for change. I usually pay with my card (because I don't typically carry cash in the amounts filling my tank costs), and the attendants almost never stop it.

I also most frequently head to WaWa stations. One's blocks from my house, and is on the way to the parkway, and one is on my route to the parkway to get back home. There ARE other options on my way home, but the roads get worse rapidly as you approach rush hour, and the WaWa is far enough down that you can avoid the worst of it.

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I almost never wait. Maybe I would if our stations weren't busy enough to keep the attendants moving. But it's relatively rare, all things considered, to pull into an empty station in NJ. Population density and all that.

Yeah, most of the stations in our town at least are pretty small, usually only 1 attendant. So when you end up with 4-5 cars showing up, there's a bit of a wait. Followed by something like "Daddy, is the car done eating yet?"

Yeah, but you're not a self-service state, right? All of our stations are appropriately staffed, because you can't pump your own gas.

Having only one attendant makes sense if it's going to be an optional service, or if they're only there in case there's a problem.

Our smallest stations might have only one attendant. But, in my experience, four pumps can be fairly easily managed by one attendant. Every so often, you'll hit a station where there's 8 pumps to one attendant, and that gets rough, but it's generally rare.

NJ drivers are also largely in a hurry at all times. The longer we wait, the less likely we buy a lot of gas at once. If you can get to me right away when I stop at a station, I'm more likely to fill up my tank than if you take a while.

So you ultimately get to sell me more gas by being overstaffed. And you average that out across all your patrons, and you should probably make more with the extra employee on at most hours. At least between 6 AM and at least 7 PM.

I don't think I've ever seen a gas station where you don't have to do it yourself. Then again, gas is so expensive here that every tenth of a cent you can cut on the cost matters to people.

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Now keep in mind, that's per liter, so multiply by 3.78541 to get 1 gallon.

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My dad and I drove here from LA. We filled up in Redding, CA, and made the 420-mile drive to Portland with a 1/4 of a tank still left. For the first time in 6 years, our Camry is finally getting 33 mpg on the highway, the EPA's estimate.

[quote=Sir Davejohnsan]My dad and I drove here from LA. We filled up in Redding, CA, and made the 420-mile drive to Portland with a 1/4 of a tank still left. For the first time in 6 years, our Camry is finally getting 33 mpg on the highway, the EPA's estimate.

The current testing methods that EPA uses to calculate estimated mileage was last updated in 2008. My Camry is a 2007 model year that was sold in late 2006. The 2007 model year attained 24 city/33 highway estimates, and after the updates it was changed to 21 city/31 highway. So back to you!

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It's against the law because it can cause spillage, which is obviously a safety hazard, and it also can allow the gas to leak into the air causing air pollution. At least, that's what I remember from reading about it when it became law back in 2009 (I think).

Basically, if you're filling the tank they want you to let the pump stop itself. Topping it off is when the person filling the tank continues to fill past that point, usually to round up to the nearest dollar.

And people LIKE pumping their own gas? Every time I leave NJ I remember how happy I am it's a full-service state.

Americans.

Some of us learned the benefits of being in charge of our own lives. Do you guys have full-service toilets as well?

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Oh, and this.

I'll happily pump my own gas if it means I can enjoy a beer while doing so. Which I can, because it's not illegal to drink and drive here, as long as you don't pass the limit, and because I'm 28, of course.

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And people LIKE pumping their own gas? Every time I leave NJ I remember how happy I am it's a full-service state.

Americans.

Some of us learned the benefits of being in charge of our own lives. Do you guys have full-service toilets as well?

Not since they abolished slavery. Although you could say that the way McDonalds and Walmart treat their employees slavery has just gotten a rebranding.

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The most annoying thing about gas for me is that when traveling in the states, far too many gas stations require a zip code for the pay at the pump option so I have to go inside, authorize a specific amount, fill up my car, and then get the balance refunded. bah.

The most annoying thing about gas for me is that when traveling in the states, far too many gas stations require a zip code for the pay at the pump option so I have to go inside, authorize a specific amount, fill up my car, and then get the balance refunded. bah.

Sounds like what those darn Canadians did to me. Something, something, your debit card doesn't work up here, come inside and run it as credit, something.

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Not the Europeans, they're apparently too busy living off government handouts or something.

And we're happy about it.

On a sidenote, I'm watching Masterchef Australia on TV and the show is sponsored by a pet shop, what's up with that?

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