i'm sorry, crayven, that you consider yourself so morally bankrupt, so weak-willed, so unable to control yourself, and so immature that if you didn't have your booze and porn, you would be out raping and killing and pillaging. i'm sorry that your moral education so badly failed to have any effect on you that only alcohol and ejaculation keep you from doing immoral things. perhaps we should whois you and find out which authorities need to be warned about the hair-trigger nature of your failed personality? why, cut off his internet for a few weeks and who knows what damage he could do! since only a bare thread keeps you from being a threat to society, certainly someone needs to be aware of it.

but as a man, i don't really appreciate your suggestion that, in virtue of being a man, i am as lacking in agency, self-control, and moral responsibility for myself as you are. that is, dare i say it, misandrist.

however, i don't think i'm too sorry for the fact that, for all your railing against them and for all the mockery you get from this forum, the big bad feminists are still treating you and regarding you better than you are treating yourself. and in constantly arguing with you over this, it turns out that not even i consider you so morally bankrupt, weak-willed, etc. so even i think you are a better person, or at least capable of being a better person, than you think you are! because, after all, my whole point is that you don't have to be that way; in fact, you can be better!

which means you probably shouldn't be on Sinfest so much as you should be in a therapist's office. 'cuz we ain't your therapists.

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Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 8:41 pm Post subject:

crayven wrote:

Finnegan wrote:

crayven wrote:

All this talk about porn is bad or whatever.
Reality check: it will be a cold day in a hot place before porn gets banned.
And if you want to see the effects, pick a history book and read about the prohibition a bit.
And that one was about alcohol which doesn't deal with a basic human need.
This one does.

And since not all men can get laid easily, cutting them off from their only release valve is going to have....explosive effects.

I may be mistaken, I'm not a biologist or anything, but I'm pretty sure men can masturbate without the help of an exploitative porn industry.

and again, not a biologist, but I'm also pretty sure that testicles don't explode if a man goes to long without ejaculating.

Sadly for you i didn't mean a literal explosion but rather a societal one.

and somehow you think that's better? I was giving you the benefit of the doubt by thinking you just weren't very smart, thank you for making it clear that I was wrong and that you're not stupid, you're just a piece of shit._________________FormerlyGreen_Finn

i'm sorry, crayven, that you consider yourself so morally bankrupt, so weak-willed, so unable to control yourself, and so immature that if you didn't have your booze and porn, you would be out raping and killing and pillaging.

now now - be fair. he explicitly said that _he_ is just fine:

crayven wrote:

2. No i don't need my whatever volume IX, i'm past by need for porn but that again i have some education and understand the phenomenon and can deal with.

And here's some economic stuff to clue you in ( as an economist i can talk a bit about this while actually knowing ). As more and more jobs are lost all over the world ( and US )those unemployed will get ANGRY and look for things to blame..or better yet, PEOPLE to blame.
Since sadly most of the "manual labor" industry is affected most lay offs are men. Many of these men aren't really well educated ( and there is plenty to say there but let's set that aside for now about who discriminates who in the schools ) and they will lean to the Right of politics.
.....
And also if faced with a porn ban, feminists and by proxy everything associated with it will be marked as "enemy" by a very large mass of people who are ALREADY furious.

which is not him at all. he's an economist, he understands these things. (although apparently not the history of the labor-union movement.)

no, it's those _other_ guys, the ones that the pro-women educational system has discriminated against so they can't go to college and become doctors and economists and stuff. _those_ are the ones we have to worry about. that's the angry mob that's coming after us.

now, how can you possibly think that characterizing a whole mass of men (other men, remember) as ignorant angry unthinking porn-driven brutes would be in any way misandrist?_________________aka: neverscared!

well, yes, we definitely don't want you going into rage mode and burning down the forum or anything. because that is clearly your only next step, what with you being a man and all._________________aka: neverscared!

All this talk about porn is bad or whatever.
Reality check: it will be a cold day in a hot place before porn gets banned.
And if you want to see the effects, pick a history book and read about the prohibition a bit.
And that one was about alcohol which doesn't deal with a basic human need.
This one does.

And since not all men can get laid easily, cutting them off from their only release valve is going to have....explosive effects.

I may be mistaken, I'm not a biologist or anything, but I'm pretty sure men can masturbate without the help of an exploitative porn industry.

and again, not a biologist, but I'm also pretty sure that testicles don't explode if a man goes to long without ejaculating.

Sadly for you i didn't mean a literal explosion but rather a societal one.

Really? Cause I find that the people who absolutely have to use porn to get "release" and threaten to become violent without it are far more likely to be the useless cowardly type that sink into internet forums that are more welcoming to their sexist mindset like reddit, or quietly mouth hateful things at women they think aren't in a position to retaliate, like those in the service industry or other "inferior" social positions, and lack the courage to make their interest clear but whine about the "friend zone". Yknow, sad powerless douchebags. The only explosion would be the explosion of dudebro tears on the ninnernets complaining about misandry._________________

Wait. Wait, wait. Crayven is claiming to be an economist, but is blaming prohibition-era gang violence on men not getting their man-jollies, rather than on the economic vacuum the sudden loss of a previously widely-available bought-and-traded substance suddenly created, and how power over its distribution was driven underground into the hands of a completely unregulated "enterprising" few who had the extra-legal power to meet the demand?

Wait. Wait, wait. Crayven is claiming to be an economist, but is blaming prohibition-era gang violence on men not getting their man-jollies, rather than on the economic vacuum the sudden loss of a previously widely-available bought-and-traded substance suddenly created, and how power over its distribution was driven underground into the hands of a completely unregulated "enterprising" few who had the extra-legal power to meet the demand?

Fail.

*tries to find a "like" button*_________________Men and patriarchy aren't interchangeable.