The Party is proud to announce the including of a Quake Live tournament to their lineup. The mode to be played is 4v4 CTF. This would be a premier for a Quake Live CTF tournament on LAN in Europe. The tournament is to be played out on tournament computers to allow for greater accessibility for international players and teams that cannot bring their own computers. The tournament will feature prizes for the top finishing teams, like headsets, graphic cards, keyboards, mice, motherboards etc. There will also be a small amount of money available to distribute if enough teams show up to make the tournament a success.

The Eindhoven Convention Center is located in Eindhoven. For international players it might be possible to fly directly to Eindhoven, since there is an airport located in the city.
If players or teams need any help organizing the trip with flights and transfers, feel free to contact me about it. I will be able to help you select the cheapest way of traveling to the LAN.
You are able to sleep in the Convention Center as it would be a normal LAN. So bring a sleeping bag and/or something you can rest comfortable on (or not) to make your nights a bit decent. So there is no need to book a hotel or anything if you want to reduce costs.

Why shouldn't e.g. EG (hehe) want to play for fun and the competition? Even though there probably won't be that much prize money, nobody is stopping them from selling the hardware prizes on ebay, which could be a respectable sum for the first place.

Also, I assume that the prize money at QCon couldn't nearly cover the costs fnatic had flying their team over, and they did it nonetheless.

Waiting for a statement from id_ or viju about this. Would be so cool. :)

EG is primarily SC2 only now, they even released their CS division. I really truly doubt they've held onto their quake players. However, I can't speak for any of the players individually. Perhaps they would be interested in going out of pocket just for the fun of it.

I agree tho, I hope that all the current teams (of any skill-level) will make an effort to come to this LAN. I have no idea about the CTF scene nowadays but this LAN should be a great opportunity to play some fun CTF with decent maps (still miss CP14 :() for both current and retired players!

well unkown isn't a real team as there are recruiting anyone who's any good in TDM/DUEL/CTF like all the COLWN dudes. it's nothing to attack Q50 at all as he's just trying to build up a nice team but i just don't consider as them as a real team as their lineup keeps chaning like hell and every 'pro' who's playing active for a short period of time is in. only really constant and really skiled section of the team are Q50 (as one of the best .eu flag defs imo) himself and winz(one of the best 2nd defs in .eu imo). betija is sadly not active in CTF lately from what i can see but would be a really nice support for Q50's team.

I would really like to see Q50 building up a nice team again as we were able to see it was one of the few teams that which really played CTF and not only TDM with flags. Played so many time against his 'team' and we always had really nice and sometimes even close games :)

anyway it's so awesome to see finally a CTF tourney to be chosen at a LAN tournament as it is prolly more enjoyble for 'outsiders' to watch as there is way more actions with flagtouches and PU runs going on. Reallly like to thank Nick aka Mr. BlaD3 to making this possible and to convince ppl to organize a CTF tounry instead of TDM.

To all who will try to convince of TDM > CTF or CTF 5on5 > CTF 4on4 etc. -> just be happy that there will be a one more fucking QL tournament at a LAN than only at Dreamhack and Qcon !

This is all you need and also announced in good time, also located in the center of Europe with good communications from most countries. FYI, Eindhoven has a Ryanair airport and if you have access to a Ryan Air airport in your country, you will most likely be able to get to this event less than 100euro return if you schedule in advance. For students -> 25€/month is what you need to save :)

There is no reason for the European CTF scene not to try and get something going for this as you will not get a better opportunity! Show us TDM:ers that you still want it! :)

@q3 strenx haxed, and i don't see why aberg wouldn't get to play... ofc he was massive dick and cheated and bcuz of him they won my friends at ESH(fu zhu) but stil... quake needs players and I'm kinda sure that he wouldn't cheat anymore...

I'm not saying he wouldn't be good without cheats as well, you clearly need some form of skill to be able to keep it a secret for such a long time, but you can't deny the possibility of people thinking that, and the possibility that the reason he was good was because he actually used cheats?

Really? I've seen him play and he looked like a mediocre player to me and that was while he was hacking. Of course someone that uses wall hacks will be the best choice for offense. His movement is atrocious for a runner.

as crazy as it may sound to you, you can be good at ctf AND cheat to even boost your already decent basic ctf skills. Also, he's certainly not the only one good ctfer around I have spotted, and no I don't think he was the best either. I always thought linkin to be the best ctf player around.

EDIT: now imagine linkin started cheating and got even slightly better thanks to wallhacking, would it make him a bad player in the first place ? No.

I'll break this down into bullet points since you think your worololol spillage text is akin to a mathematical proof:

1) You don't need to be good at a game to boost your performance with cheats, it just helps

2) Zhu wasn't good to begin with, and hence, needed to cheat to be good. This follows on from #1

3) You thought Zhu was as up there with linkin as one of the best attackers in the world. (http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2209582#pid2209582), which makes your opinion of world-class players/cheaters retarded. As a further example, you also thought winz was carried at dreamhack summer. Nearly everyone in #ninjaquake disagreed with you. I can repost the log on here if you wish.

Your edit is so worlololry twisted it's laughable. If you are so insecure about your skill that you need to cheat to win, yes you are a bad player. Simples.

You don't understand that everyone can be improved with cheats regardless of how bad they are to begin with? Take your blankie into the corner and have a little think.

As for the rest; if you have to cheat, you're a bad player because you clearly can't cope with the competition at your level (in zhu's case, he was in rmrf in div2/3 for BiBS). Therefore zhu is a bad player.

Q. E. D.

[00:17] <@dem0n> Its your right to think whatever you think bout him
[00:17] <@dem0n> I just dont like him fine
[00:17] <@dem0n> doesnt happen often I dont like someone ive actually seen on lan
[00:17] <@dem0n> so w/e
[00:18] <@deus`> yea it's fine that u don't like him but u can't say he got carried
[00:18] <@deus`> when he clearly didn't
[00:18] <@dem0n> clearly wjhat
[00:18] <@deus`> didn't get carried
[00:18] <@dem0n> It's my right to thionk he did deus`
11[00:18] <@xou|> isn't winz one of the oldest tdm player in here?
[00:18] <@xou|> show some respect!
[00:18] <@Weird> hmmmm well one of the ye
[00:18] <@deus`> yeah but you only think that coz u dislike him
[00:19] <@dem0n> Not really deus
[00:19] <@dem0n> I dislike him mainly cause he thinks so highly of himself

He was in rmrfrrffbf (whatever it is) OK, second division ok, so what ? I was in 3rd division ctf a few years ago what the hell did I just start cheating ???? WHO KNOWS.

Your "irony" vid is so funneh but I don't see the pattern.

These logs you just put out have so little to do with the context of this conversation that I just remain speechless of what to counter-argue.

You continue to amaze me with how subjective, out of context, how nerdy you are with every next post you make. These train picture posts just made my evening: you actually have wasted time looking for train pictures to make a point on this shitty conversation you decided to start between me and you because you obviously dont like me ??? Man It's really an interesting psycho case if you ask me :o)

It has to be realistic, do sponsors want to pay for players to win hardware prizes? I hope that enough teams sign up to warrant a cash prize pool.. but that would be a bonus on top of how nice this is already :)

I doubt sponsors would be backing up a team to make a lot of money from it with prize money won from tournaments.

Mostly exposure and involvement in the community to sell related hardware/software.

The gaming teams mostly to show their name and involvement to send their player(s) to an event.

But in this tournament you should not expect massive amounts of prize money since multiple games are featured and an independent LAN organization would never put all their money and other prizes into one single game.

I am already happy they gave Quake Live CTF a chance and will provide some really nice prize packages (and some money) to win. If this might turn out a successful project, they might make it a regular tournament in upcoming events. They already were quite enthusiastic about some features (streams, shoutcast, tournament setup, coverage) used at previous events and I would like to set a good example on how a tournament can be organized and played out with good value for the players AND viewers.

It all depends on the players/teams though to help make it a success and hopefully lack of sponsoring won't decide it, since announcing it this early and the location being well accessible for international players and affordable of course should be an advantage.

Yeah, I think everything was under the impression that LANs were only going to neglect QL - it's great to see that the spirit of the community is contageous, and that more event organisers want to pick up the action. I'm shaking in anticipation already!

"Extra Info: As The Party is a traditional LAN, you are of course allowed to bring your own PC and be involved more than just playing in the Quake Live CTF tournament. Due to international players attending, the official tournament matches will be played on set up PC's so each player/team can play their games."

As it stands now (from the little info I got and track back) it will most likely not be 120 hz monitors. They are of the Iiyama brand and they do not sell 120 hz ones.

However they should be able to run 75 hz, making it not too terrible to play on.

Thing is, I am not in charge or have anything to say regarding hardware being delivered by the sponsors. They just give stuff for us to use, but they don't follow a list of demands, other than it should be decent enough to play on.

I hope this isn't a big dealbreaker though, because I am 100 percent dedicated to make this tournament great for every one.

You can bring whatever you want on your BYOC spot, but to make everything fair, the tournament matches should be played out on the tournament PC's with no difference between hardware, except your own keyboard, mouse and cfg.

There will also be a spring LAN in St.Petersburg with duel, CTF and TDM tournaments, there will be minimum 4000$ prizepool for all disciplines(that's current minimum and it's most likely gonna rise even more). Hopefully some scandinavian/baltic/eastern europeans attend!(though considering how xt didnt come to DHW not that much hope here :S)
also it's gonna be played on 120hz LCDs or CRTs

I'm going to build a russian team. Russian CTF pickup channel is very active, there are many decent players and many new guys from public servers. I'm going to attend this lan event 99% and Fadec 80%. I hope that everything will be okay, and we will have fun in Holland. We will try to get two more russians. Let's say it will be loveme and nikola01. I'm going to Netherlands Visa Service Centre in Saint-Petersburg on this week. We all have money for a trip. So money is't a problem. But for a visa we will need to indicate place to live in Holland for 6th,7th,8th of April.

We won't book a hotel, so I guess we'll need "something" that will prove that we are going to sleep in Convention Center.

Also is it possible that someone will meet us in Amsterdam and drive us to the lan? U can find us on #qlpickup.ru

if my exams won't be at that weekend or the weekend after me and soul will defenitly show up. hT booked his vacation for that date as well already and will join us hopefully with devknof to complete our team.

Swe attenders need to go 2days before the event :/.. No planes on thursday. and the one on friday lands around 21 in the evening :/
2nd option is going to amsterdam on friday morning wich is 2flight changes and double then money + train to eindhoven. Complicated and expensive :(

I will be uploading a first draft of a schedule for the tournament this week. You can expect first rounds to be played on Friday (so each team has 1 match on Friday) from around 17.00 CET and the other matches are spread out till afternoon Sunday.

The final will be on Sunday then, and the 3rd/4th place match as well.

Have to confirm this with the other competitions/crew, but just to give a general impression for people that they might be expected Friday already and ending on Sunday.

I've suggested to possibilities of approaching other sponsors or esports related organizations, but they might clash with the already existing sponsors expectations/demands. I would not rule it out, it might be interesting propositions to consider if they were interested.

The schedule will be divided over Saturday (whole day) and Sunday (till about 13.00 CET). So people can use Friday to get here for Saturday. Details will follow soon.

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So make sure you are ready to play on Saturday and Sunday. The tournament will approximately start Saturday 9.00 - 10.00 CET in the morning and run till 22.00 CET in the evening. Then the final will be played on Sunday morning.

To give an indication for people wondering how the schedule will look like. Exact times I can't give yet, but this should suffice for now :)

Well for now I have a general plan on how to handle over 8 teams. I can't go over 16 teams though, doesn't work in a 1 day and 3 or 4 matches the next day schedule.

So if teams know they have four showing up, it is best to inform me about it asap, because there might also be people at the LAN who are CoD or CS players who want to sign up. I need a clear view of what real QLCTF teams are going by using this post and mIRC/other chats.

So if you know your team is complete and going, please inform me about it! :)

I can't say clearly yet. There is a big screen for the stage games. I don't know if there are beamers and screens available with some chairs to set up a viewing area for spectators. Else I can bring my own beamer and screen to set something up, shouldn't be too much of a problem.

I have just got informed that the LAN will have 16 PC's featured as tournament PC's and they will all have 75 hz compatible screens. 120 hz was not possible, but everything else will be a high quality setup for people to play their games.

(120 hz is not ruled out yet, depends on sponsors ability to provide, but 75 hz is certain)

Heh don't count on that, this ain't a LAN where 4000 euro worth of laptops is given away to teams.

As mentioned before you can expect stuff like this to be added as prizes next to already known: GFX cards, Motherboards, PC Cases, Keyboards, Mice, Memory etc.

If you want money, you can always sell the stuff you won. The LAN is focused on multiple games, so everything has to be divided, especially since Quake Live is totally new and it is still a gamble on how the turnout will be.

But expect a well run tournament with good coverage and a fun time included. Top 3 will get rewarded with prizes, just don't expect to get your trip/costs refunded if you spend over 250 euro.

Shoutcast/Stream: I am proud to announce that zoot will be our man to shoutcast and stream the tournament. He will be provided with his own booth to run it all with possibility of player interviews and co-casting. All will be available for the people staying at home so they can follow the tournament in a decent matter.

And if there are players/teams certain on going not listed yet, please message me about it.

It might turn out that the spots for the tournament are limited due to the schedule. My current aim is a maximum of 16 teams, with ideally 12.

So if you can confirm an entire team, please do so, so I can give out a reserved spot. Because there might be teams forming on the LAN itself of players that are from other games. I can not provide unlimited spots.

Overall it will cost 15 euro for the QLCTF tournament. You will have to attend on Saturday though and can not access the event on Friday yet (you will need a BYOC ticket/spectator ticket then).

If your team reaches the final or 3rd/4th place game, you can attend Sunday for free.

If your team gets knocked out on Saturday, you will need a 10 euro spectator ticket for Sunday.

If you are knocked out and want to leave the event and do not want to spectate Sunday, you can view everything at home as well through streams.

Spectator ticket will also give access to free drinks and stream/bar area for QLCTF games.

The QLCTF ticket for Saturday gives you access to free drinks the entire day and access to the spectator area (in a bar) to view all games.

If you combine the QLCTF tournament with a hotel, it will approximately cost you 15 or 25 euro (depending on performance of team/wanting to stay) + ~27,50 euro (1 night hotel). So ~40 to 60 euro total. This will be cheaper compared to a BYOC ticket if you do not bring your PC and will save you costs of drinks on Saturday.

Some I also mentioned, since I checked them and they fit more towards a budget. Just expect to spend 40 euro a night if you want to sleep in a hotel near the event.

If you are going with a mate, it will always end up cheaper. You can go towards the 27,50 - 30 euro then.

I will update the section when I find some more that beat those already listed. I'm trying to find a hostel that doesn't aim for fancy rooms, but just a bed. Those should be cheaper, but can't find one yet :)

Still waiting if more teams can confirm to attend already. I will be making the definite signup list tomorrow. Each team that signs up for it, will reserve a spot.

Currently the maximum slots will be 12. If more teams appear to show up, it will be raised to 16 if really needed, but make sure to get your slot reserved in those 12.

Only teams that can provide me with four player names and can safely say they will show up, are to reserve a spot. If your team is not sure or can not list four players, you can sign up, but you will not be placed in a definite slot.

It appears that none of the Quake Tournament tickets are bought yet by any player or teams.

So I am wondering if people are still waiting or there is simply not enough interest in attending this event?

If we end up with only 4 teams or something, the tournament might get canceled.

We are really trying to work out a great event for teams attending with shoutcasting, streaming, coverage, playing area etc. But with 3 or 4 teams attending, all that effort will go to waste.

So please if you need help, have question or whatever to participate, do not hesitate to contact me. The next two weeks will be a measuring point as to if the tournament will have enough participating teams or not.

The thing is that this tournament is kinda a test on how much interest there is from the community to attend. If the turnout is good, next time there is more need to arrange the 120 hz monitors.

People refusing to show up, just because the monitor isn't perfect, just displays an act of being spoiled.

Because everything else that is being arranged is apparently nothing compared to having 120 hz monitors.

We have;

- A tournament area set up with 16 PC's to play all games.
- A shoutcasting booth with zoot covering the games and doing interviews/co-casting. This will also be streamed online for viewers at home.
- Spectator area with a beamer to watch all games with free drinks.
- Prizes (there will be more included, hope to announce this soon).
- Reduced entrance fee to play in the tournament, specially arranged for Quake players.
- LAN servers arranged.
- A potentially great opportunity for the current CTF players to meet up with each other and play against each other in a LAN environment in EUROPE.

So we have one apparently big 'con' that is hard to arrange for this event. However the potential to be available the next event if turnout is good.

Just trying the best possible to get something good, it's not that easy.

hm i play ql on a 60hz 16ms response time laptop, and that is for sure not great and you have disadvantages vs. players who have a good monitor but....it is still a lan and lan ping (rockets, plasma) adds a whole new dimension to the game and compensates imho a good deal for sucky monitors... and they have atleast 75hz with some decent response time i guess.

For the people still looking for a team; I will be making a channel on mIRC as soon as possible to try and bring people together.

I've thought about this before, but I find it quite complex to get people who don't know each other (personally and skill level) and bring them in one team.

Therefor there is still the need for players to somehow be open on making such teams.

The channel will be private and I will message or people have to message me about joining. So make sure to notify me if you did not apply for a team on here yet or if you have a nickname not similar to the one on esreality.

stupid people.... if i can play with a 65k modem and a crt u ladys should be able to play on 75 hz ....first world problems at its best ... decadent quaketards but maybe u are right! there are thousands of quake lans out there especially ctf ones no one should visit this one cause u only have 75 hz for ur shiny royal eyes. lets just whine a bit more about how quake is dying or dead already so no reason to support anything related to quake just feel comfortable crying about the community. i honestly hope u will end up poor in your life not able to afford a 60 hz screen or ur other shitty equipment u need cause u wouldnt be able to hit anything without ur 500 dollar gaming chair.... i am so sick of this attitude! people like u will never understand what quake is about better go and buy call of duty

You miss the point where we play Quake because we don't accept second best, and that this is the most skilled game. By giving in and selling out to events that only provide 75hz (shitty conditions for playing) we're selling out the whole point of Quake, which is to showcase the highest levels of skill in gaming. But I guess it reflects the times... half-assed QL and a half-assed LAN.

ziehr eure sonntagskleider an ich werd gruppenfotos machen. :D
Put on your fancy dresses im gonna take group pictures of every team! hope to see some team shirts makes it easier for the quakers at home to identify the teams and players

zoot speaking german is the gayest thing ive ever heard! this is so coming into my fragmovie! guys keep the demos of the lan hope to get some nice shoutcasts in combination with nice frags for my CTF Community Movie