You call it modernizing, I call it another swing of the wrecking ball at the proud edifice that was once Western Civilization. Five thousand years of history and practice count for nothing. Think about this: if marriage is only defined by "love" - a hopelessly indefinable term - then why can't every single argument used to support gay marriage now be used to support polygamy, pedophile marriage, necrophilia marriage, and pet marriage? Today five justices of the Supreme Court fundamentally altered our societal DNA in a way no culture has ever done prior to the 21st Century. Marriage now has no meaning, and states essentially have no rights. You can celebrate it as a victory for equality, but I see it as another giant leap towards the complete unraveling of society as a whole. Civilizations crumbe when the family is undermined, and America has launched itself on a downhill slope with great enthusiasm.

You sir, are supporting a fallacy (hasty generalization), You are saying that supporters of gay marriage will support necrophilia, pedophilia, pet marriage? A does NOT equal B, it's not a domino effect. Some people live by that book, fine, but what business of it is your to interfere with other people lives? This wrecking ball is nothing more than blind hatred, some people can see through it, others either can and ignore it or just can't see. Marriage is love between two people, be it man & woman or man & man and Woman & woman, you can't change that. If anything, religion has crumbled the world from fear. Marriage has no rights? Laws and love are two separate things, there's no guidelines for love. But wait, what about necrophilia, pedophilia, pet marriage? Sir, if you are an archaeologist, then you are one fourth of an anthropologist. Don't get mixed up with cultural anthropology with archaeology, some cultures have different ways of life than the European way. However, most of them respect the dead, as necrophilia is more of a psychological thing. Pedophilia is the child being abused, pet marriage is well, some of the state's has no law against bestiality, so it is legal to have sex with a horse. Like I said, it's called modernizing the times, some people, like myself, embraces it. Others, as you have shown, aren't ready for it. whether or not, modernization isn't stopping for anyone, so you just have to get used to it.

You call it modernizing, I call it another swing of the wrecking ball at the proud edifice that was once Western Civilization. Five thousand years of history and practice count for nothing. Think about this: if marriage is only defined by "love" - a hopelessly indefinable term - then why can't every single argument used to support gay marriage now be used to support polygamy, pedophile marriage, necrophilia marriage, and pet marriage? Today five justices of the Supreme Court fundamentally altered our societal DNA in a way no culture has ever done prior to the 21st Century. Marriage now has no meaning, and states essentially have no rights. You can celebrate it as a victory for equality, but I see it as another giant leap towards the complete unraveling of society as a whole. Civilizations crumbe when the family is undermined, and America has launched itself on a downhill slope with great enthusiasm.

You sir, are completely stupid, you are supporting a fallacy (hasty generalization), You are saying that supporters of gay marriage will support necrophilia, pedophilia, pet marriage? A does NOT equal B, it's not a domino effect. Some people live by that book, fine, but what business of it is your to interfere with other people lives? This wrecking ball is nothing more than blind hatred, some people can see through it, others either can and ignore it or just can't see. Marriage is love between two people, be it man & woman or man & man and Woman & woman, you can't change that. If anything, religion has crumbled the world from fear. Marriage has no rights? Laws and love are two separate things, there's no guidelines for love. But wait, what about necrophilia, pedophilia, pet marriage? Sir, if you are an archaeologist, then you are one fourth of an anthropologist. Don't get mixed up with cultural anthropology with archaeology, some cultures have different ways of life than the European way. However, most of them respect the dead, as necrophilia is more of a psychological thing. Pedophilia is the child being abused, pet marriage is well, some of the state's has no law against bestiality, so it is legal to have sex with a horse. Like I said, it's called modernizing the times, some people, like myself, embraces it. Others, as you have shown, aren't ready for it. whether or not, modernization isn't stopping for anyone, so you just have to get used to it.

El Misfit, when you are arguing on here, feel free to state your case as strongly as you like but PLEASE do not call people with whom you disagree "completely stupid."

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"...the luscious love melons of Linnea Quigley are back on the screen in 'Sexbomb,' except that she's no longer Linnea Quigley. She's billed simply as 'Linnea'... So, you might be wondering, where is Linnea Qui... I mean, Linnea? She's exactly where we would expect, wandering around through the background with her breasts hanging out. She's got maybe, oh, eight words to say in this movie, and most of them are 'Here, I brought you some coffee.'"-Joe Bob on SEXBOMB

When you pull a 4.0 in grad school you can call me stupid!You completely misread my post.I did NOT say that supporters of gay marriage will support the legalization and court-ordered equality of every other kind of perversion. What I did say is that those who DO support the court-ordered legalization and equality of deviant sexual behaviors will use the SAME ARGUMENTS that were used to propagandize gay marriage. That is a completely different statement than the one you put in my mouth. "Marriage is love between two people." According to who? Since when? Five thousand years of human history have shown that heterosexual marriage is the most practical, efficient, and ethical way for societies to insure their continuation. Man-woman marriage is enshrined by virtually every religion that has ever existed, every government that has ever existed, and virtually every culture that has ever existed. Only in the last 30 years has this alternative been seriously proposed. I didn't say marriage has no rights. What I said was that, thanks to this ruling, it now has no set definition - if it is, as you said, nothing more than "Love between two people" -first of all, why two? Secondly, why only between people? The courts have effectively destroyed the oldest social institution in the world and left no clear guidelines as to what it is to be replaced with. You call it modernization, I call it another act of societal suicide. This thread is about things that anger us, and this ruling angered me, so I vented here. Sorry you don't like my opinion - I don't really care for yours either. BUT I DID NOT CALL YOU STUPID! I think that was a cheap and unnecessary shot.

When you pull a 4.0 in grad school you can call me stupid!You completely misread my post.I did NOT say that supporters of gay marriage will support the legalization and court-ordered equality of every other kind of perversion. What I did say is that those who DO support the court-ordered legalization and equality of deviant sexual behaviors will use the SAME ARGUMENTS that were used to propagandize gay marriage. That is a completely different statement than the one you put in my mouth. "Marriage is love between two people." According to who? Since when? Five thousand years of human history have shown that heterosexual marriage is the most practical, efficient, and ethical way for societies to insure their continuation. Man-woman marriage is enshrined by virtually every religion that has ever existed, every government that has ever existed, and virtually every culture that has ever existed. Only in the last 30 years has this alternative been seriously proposed. I didn't say marriage has no rights. What I said was that, thanks to this ruling, it now has no set definition - if it is, as you said, nothing more than "Love between two people" -first of all, why two? Secondly, why only between people? The courts have effectively destroyed the oldest social institution in the world and left no clear guidelines as to what it is to be replaced with. You call it modernization, I call it another act of societal suicide. This thread is about things that anger us, and this ruling angered me, so I vented here. Sorry you don't like my opinion - I don't really care for yours either. BUT I DID NOT CALL YOU STUPID! I think that was a cheap and unnecessary shot.

I was extremely p**sed off there, fine. I'm sorry. it's just that when I see people complaining about something that A=B, which would cause the world to explode, i get very angry because they act so damn over the top that logic goes out the window because of a tweak on society has changed. I have met people who truly believe that God will thunder kill us. I vented because someone I saw today didn't let me say why I think that he was wrong, he kept interrupting me, making me more tensed up and I took it out on you. I'm sorry that I did that. Looking back, I was fool, because when we are angry, we make irrational choices and word choices, and shown above, I was an idiot for doing that.

People making wild assumptions about other people without any proof or justification. People assuming a person is a certain way just because of outer appearance, just because of certain training or perhaps lack thereof, people assuming others will feel the same as them because...well...fact is, everyone is just not the same.

Ever run into somebody that you haven't seen in a very long time and you're kind of excited to talk to them, but after about three seconds you realize that neither of you really has anything to say to the other?

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