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Re: Healthcare question for Christians

Would Jesus support a UHC plan or would he feel that healthcare should be portioned out based on an individuals ability to pay?

First, I find this a worthless question when republicans or democrats do it.

Second, I think Jesus would mostly be uncaring about what the government plan would be in regards to what he'd tell others to do. He'd instead focus on the indvidual, and the community, encouraging people to donate their own money to help the less fortunante. Not stating UHC is bad. Not stating UHC is good. Ignoring it, because people can make their own decisions on what they want the government doing. Giving the government money to do as they see fit and "trusting" they'll use it right is not virtuous. Giving it freely is.

Third, I do not begin to try and explain how a man from thousands of years ago would immedietely view a modern government program. However he may view it, I'd imagine as it has no baring on divinity, faith, or spirituality that he would mostly keep the view to himself as there's nothing directly christian or anti-christian concerning UHC.

Originally Posted by disneydude

Who's talking about putting a gun to anyone's head?

If you refuse to pay your taxes and refuse to quietly be arrested for refusing to pay your taxes how do you think they get you into jail?

That's the whole "gun to your head" notion. People like to say giving taxes to the government and them giving it to those "who need it" is like Charity, expects it not. The thing that makes CHARITY virtuous is one CHOOSES to do it on their own. When the alternative to not doing it is being jailed and essentially ruining your life it is no longer charity, and no longer virtuous, but state sponsored coercion.

Re: Healthcare question for Christians

Originally Posted by Goobieman

At the voting booth, presumeably to vote for UHC or for people that will bring UHC into being, you aren't voting for charitible giving, you're voting to force others to give.
Christian charity cannot be forced, it must be voluntary.

Once again, God does not compartmentalize. If you go to the voting booth, you should be practicing justice and compassion in what you vote for and who you vote to represent you, just like as a Christian you have to practice justice and compassion in every other aspect of your life. You cannot simply ignore the sick and the poor at the voting booth or at the town hall.

Now one might believe that there is a more effective way of helping the sick than what is being proposed, and that would be a perfectly valid position to have as a Christian. Just like you cannot ignore the poor and the sick, you cannot have people that represent you ignore the poor and the sick. We don't live under a totalitarian Caesar. We ultimately all chose are laws, our government, our society.

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