bounty42

I've seen knotwork patterns with no crossing lines
You'll need to play with the thicknesses at the transition points, so you can flow from one 'segment' to another at say, 1/4 the original thickness, but you could do it.

TIME is going to be the biggest issue on this one I fear.

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Mavyn

bounty42 wrote:I've seen knotwork patterns with no crossing lines
You'll need to play with the thicknesses at the transition points, so you can flow from one 'segment' to another at say, 1/4 the original thickness, but you could do it.

TIME is going to be the biggest issue on this one I fear.

One line. No breaks. What you posted gives the illusion one being one, but there are 22 end points. You need to be able to trace the image from one end to the other without lifting your pen/pencil/finger/nose.

Edit: I suspect you were saying to making a wide section with a thin section connecting the two, but that requires crossing over. Or doing a dizzy maze with all one size to look like a wider line and a thin line connecting. Might work, but yeah...hand cramp time.

PixelPants

AdderXYU wrote:I approve this message. Doubly so if he gets to pick the best tee and not just the best tee that isn't first or second but is in the fog.

The version of Curiosity that printed last derby finished in 10th place. Three derbies in with the new system may be a little to identify a printing pattern. I imagine the editors and guest judges take votes into consideration, as much for the the voters who took the time to pick their favourites as for the wider buying audience.
I'm excited by the prospect of this Single Line derby as the first one predated my woot involvement. It will be interesting to see if the results are very different this time around. Hopefully I can reign in my tendency to overwork ideas, and get something done.

bounty42

Mavyn wrote:One line. No breaks. What you posted gives the illusion one being one, but there are 22 end points. You need to be able to trace the image from one end to the other without lifting your pen/pencil/finger/nose.

Edit: I suspect you were saying to making a wide section with a thin section connecting the two, but that requires crossing over. Or doing a dizzy maze with all one size to look like a wider line and a thin line connecting. Might work, but yeah...hand cramp time.

That is perhaps a Bad example, there are other ones that would be easier to be sure. But it could be done. and really I don't think it's any more complex than the THIS or THIS or even THIS

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AdderXYU

PixelPants wrote:The version of [url=http://shirt.woot.com/offers/curiosity-8] that printed last derby finished in 10th place. Three derbies in with the new system may be a little to identify a printing pattern. I imagine the editors and guest judges take votes into consideration, as much for the the voters who took the time to pick their favourites as for the wider buying audience.
I'm excited by the prospect of this Single Line derby as the first one predated my woot involvement. It will be interesting to see if the results are very different this time around. Hopefully I can reign in my tendency to overwork ideas, and get something done.

I think that's why I'd be doubly excited to see a truly great tee win regardless of placement: because it would develop an anomaly and ergo prove that even if woot preferred top vote draws, it's not a given. Basically every doubletake derby has proven that shirts that don't place top-three can out-sell even the number one spot of its original derby, and that shirts that never even fogged could sell as well if not better than second or third. If we were to see, say, 15th or 21st print, a) it would not sell abnormally poorly, because woot has an ever-growing viewership yet an ever shrinking votership, and b) it could be impetus for people to really push themselves even further quality-wise, knowing that even vote neglect won't keep great work from printing.

It is definitely hard to get a bead on overall trends, especially with four derbies with weird themes... of what I've followed, neither "wishes" nor "restaurants" really had scads of must-own pieces. In a style derby like this one, however, there is a guarantee of great work lingering outside the fog, and that's why it's a great way to (hopefully) see a bit more shake-up. Artulo himself could easily give a speech on how it feels to be shafted outside the fog while what prints prints, based on his placement-to-quality ratio the first time this theme passed through. Simply put, to me the sooner we see a true outside, left-field print choice that seems to be made on design worth (that is to say, no picking #43 just because it has a particularly bad Hunger Games pun), the more the derby immediately gets more exciting for the artists and those of us voting for art (and vicariously, immediately risks losing the sorts of voters who have made woot and the derby hemorrhage users of that sort, so win-win). As someone who I've seen a number of intriguing and intricate pieces from in the past, I'm sure you'd be all the more excited about a derby if you knew you could be 100% true to your inspiration and still potentially garner a print for that.

As for "curiousity," I'm not sure that 10th place last week quite counts, since there was a very similar version in 5th. It does, however, so far showcase that old chestnut that I already mentioned: print score means nothing in sales, so why bother with it? 5th, or 10th if you prefer, is still ahead of 2nd.

PixelPants

AdderXYU wrote:I'm sure you'd be all the more excited about a derby if you knew you could be 100% true to your inspiration and still potentially garner a print for that.

I don't think I'm the only designer excited by the implications of the new derby rules. In the last few weeks a good number of artists who have been very quiet in recent months have dipped their toes back into the derby waters. Should they continue to participate more regularly it could do a lot to boost the quality and range of derby contributions and therefore potential prints. This is not a slight against regular participants but an affirmation of the contribution that long term community members make when they are active.

clarinerd

lyonscc wrote:OK - lack of sleep, lots of detail work, and a royal pain to do with one line.

Now - which color???

or

Edit: I tend to like Navy shirts better, myself, but my daughter would smack me around for doing a steampunk design that's not on brown...

I've gotta go with brown, but I'm worried that it will get rejected due to multiple lines. I see multiple endings in the design and in the rules Travis said "No retracing the same path. The line should always be distinct from itself, if that makes sense. Don't fill in a space and try to tell us it's just one line that overlaps itself. Don't try multiple line endings on the grounds that the line turns back on itself."

autsey

Tgentry goes into FanTAStic detail about the guidelines on the first page of comments. If you can't fix your design to match the requirements, you can save it for the future and work on something new that may just be totally spontaneous and awesome!

biticol wrote:The no crossing lines rule is not mentioned in the guidelines, damn my whole design i prepared for this derby will not serve I'm not very happy about that.

citizencoyote

clarinerd wrote:I've gotta go with brown, but I'm worried that it will get rejected due to multiple lines. I see multiple endings in the design and in the rules Travis said "No retracing the same path. The line should always be distinct from itself, if that makes sense. Don't fill in a space and try to tell us it's just one line that overlaps itself. Don't try multiple line endings on the grounds that the line turns back on itself."

This. It's an awesome design (and despite my love of navy, the brown pops nicely) but I fear you crossed the line on double-backs. I can see how you drew 99% with one line, but in several places they merge too closely together. Also, I can't see how you managed to do the sprocket teeth on his head with a single line; this is the 1% not covered above.

cfdunbar

citizencoyote wrote:This. It's an awesome design (and despite my love of navy, the brown pops nicely) but I fear you crossed the line on double-backs. I can see how you drew 99% with one line, but in several places they merge too closely together. Also, I can't see how you managed to do the sprocket teeth on his head with a single line; this is the 1% not covered above.

I'm having the same trouble with my own design, because we can vary the line width, I'm just not sure that we can vary it into a 'spike' so to speak.

tjschaeffer

citizencoyote wrote:This. It's an awesome design (and despite my love of navy, the brown pops nicely) but I fear you crossed the line on double-backs. I can see how you drew 99% with one line, but in several places they merge too closely together. Also, I can't see how you managed to do the sprocket teeth on his head with a single line; this is the 1% not covered above.

See, I think the gear teeth aren't technically an issue. It's just the line sharply increasing in size. What's more of an issue that I see are some of the points where the line "flares" because those look like the line doubling back on itself...

lyonscc

tjschaeffer wrote:See, I think the gear teeth aren't technically an issue. It's just the line sharply increasing in size. What's more of an issue that I see are some of the points where the line "flares" because those look like the line doubling back on itself...

I'll go back through my design, but I believe that all of the places with "spikes", I have corresponding "negative spikes/bumps" on the opposing side of the line.

I was using the winning entries of the previous one-line derby as a guide, as they had "spikes" with corresponding "negative spikes"...

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