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They really had no choice but to use the subterfuge that they ended up using.

I keep thing about that. They knew who bought her, it was a matter of public record. Why not just make the same ridiculous offer on a 300 dollar slave? "I understand, you have a slave that speaks my native language, which is quite unusual in this part of the country. I'm prepared to make you an offer you can't refuse for her." I mean, I really liked the movie, and will see it a few more times, but still...

They really had no choice but to use the subterfuge that they ended up using.

I keep thing about that. They knew who bought her, it was a matter of public record. Why not just make the same ridiculous offer on a 300 dollar slave? "I understand, you have a slave that speaks my native language, which is quite unusual in this part of the country. I'm prepared to make you an offer you can't refuse for her." I mean, I really liked the movie, and will see it a few more times, but still...

Schultz and Django certainly had the bank to do that.

I can only assume that Schultz was going to stiff Candie and had no intention of coughing up $12000 in any event.

Schultz would have paid Candie up front for Broomhilda( as that was a nominal sum to him) said he was going to get his lawyer for the Mandingo figther transaction, taken Broomhilda and never returned.

I guess Schultz didn't want to enrich Candie's evil (or he was a cheapskate who didn't want to part with 12 grand-take your pick).

Ya'know when I saw the movie "Lincoln" I couldn't bring myself to believe that the character played by Tommy Lee Jones was real. I figured it was just a tool used for fictional and dramatic effect. But at the end of the movie when the Black woman appeared to be his wife, I (and my admittedly racist self) was almost certain it was dramatic fiction.

APEXABYSS

The commercial advertising-- "Why don't they just rise up and kill the whites?"...something like that.

Well, that $old it for me. How Tarantino answers the question & how that scene would unfold, sparked my curiosity to see the film.

"At first you had my curiosity. Now you have my attention."

...That was the million dollar question? I thought, wait, these guys are f*ckin with us (us meaning the general public)... how would you answer?

Candie uses science & medicine to support his subservient claim...."3 dimples"...wtf... Tarantino was smart to give an 1850s answer. At that point, I felt as though the film didn't give me the answer I was looking for. Candie answers his own question. So I didn’t count his response to be rational. Theatrical but not rational.

I kept thinking, how could they not answer the friggin question?

Marketing Django as a concept within a concept... A black hero killing white villains and why is he the only one? Advertising Django with a question?

/////highlights/////

Dr. Schultz, feeling responsible for Django. The “Cleopatra House" & house-slave named "Sheba" (two of the worlds most powerful african women). Plus, Beethoven & Dumas…c’mon, all time classics. Candie, a slave owner, paying homage to black culture and black contributions, simultaneously, exploiting the very people whose ingenuity, invitations & achievements he holds in the highest regard.

This is Tarantinos most intelligent film. why? the damn question. Django re-defines the term spaghetti western.” I mean, ‘mama mia‘, the pasta is thick.

I'm glad people responded to the violence & n-word controversy/criticism like adults. violence= it's a western. n-word= an unclassified term still in transition. Black people still attach the "n-word" to slave-history instead of African history... Tarantino could have used a slew of words to describe slaves. I recall hearing the word “pica ninny” which is far more comically-tragic (to me) than ”nigger.”

Do we know the context & how the n-word has been bastardized?

The etymology of the n-word (in it’s various forms & definitions) goes beyond slavery. African dialect has similar sounds & spellings… for example: Negus, Niger, Wah Ben Naga & Senegal are all african words with similar pronunciation to the n-word. Hailesse Sailiei was known as “The Great Negus Nagast” meaning King of kings.”

The n-word derives from the Portuguese meaning "black." However, the african terms for the n-word usually applied to sacred, spiritual and religious beliefs. Ironically, the term “nigger” may have been recognizable to the early-slaves (from their native languages). Hearing a foreign variation of the word may have caused slaves to respond or embrace the term.

but... did the movie give us an answer? maybe!

i would suggest Dr. Schultz answers the million dollar question... when referring to Candie as an.... I think that about summed it up for me.

I am a 55 yr old Caucasian raised in a Jewish home .. married 20 yrs to Tommy a 60 yr old guy who has combined blood - Mexican paternal Greek maternal .. as of age 8 Tommy was raised by African American preacher Father Divine in Pennsylvania .. between the 2 of us we cover alot of stuff ..

We finally were able to see DJANGO and we both thoroughly enjoyed & appreciated it .. sure there is lots to be discussed, and thats what good movies are all about after all ..

Congratulations and big bravo to those who worked together to make this film ..

I am a 55 yr old Caucasian raised in a Jewish home .. married 20 yrs to Tommy a 60 yr old guy who has combined blood - Mexican paternal Greek maternal .. as of age 8 Tommy was raised by African American preacher Father Divine in Pennsylvania .. between the 2 of us we cover alot of stuff ..

We finally were able to see DJANGO and we both thoroughly enjoyed & appreciated it .. sure there is lots to be discussed, and thats what good movies are all about after all ..

Congratulations and big bravo to those who worked together to make this film ..

Sincerely, Lori Garcia

For one who is admittedly racist...perhaps with a small "r", the exponential explosion in diversity from the White House on down is overwhelming in a good way. Yet to hear mention of the Father Divine Hotel in my residential Philly gives me reason to pause. The Father Divine Hotel is so very symbolic of the word "Gentrification", with a capital "G". The all but racial assault on urban Public schools (excuse the nusience but that is a capital "P"), the all but racial application of drug laws, the all but certain history of Anne Frank.