We've got Ipswich next on Saturday, if they beat us for their first win of the season then frankly Sturrock has to go.

The Southgate sacking is a bit of a strange one but it seems to suggest that Steve Gibson must already have someone lined up to take over. Southgate seems like a nice man but he's had long enough and has also had good financial backing so you can't really criticise his sacking. Afonso Alves anyone?

Oh and Championship Manager LEGEND Cherno Samba is on trial at Portsmouth. That's depsite him being AWFUL when he was at us a few seasons ago.

Great stuff from Rubin, Kiev and Lyon. Not to mention Scunthorpe and Swansea.

Shame to see Southgate getting the boot - strange after a 2-0 win. Or did he go before the game? I really like him. He's a very honest, dignified manager. Really hope he's back in the game soon. Overall, considering where Boro were when he took over, he can have no real complaints.

Got a double on CSKA Moscow and Milan winning. The 6/1 odds on Milan are too good not to put a few pence on.

with Szechney and him switching a lot last season. Sounded like Arsenal were too complacent in the second half, luckily it shouldn't matter but really have to start defending better at some point before things get meaningful.

and the team spirit that saw us win games in the last minute or go to Old Trafford without our two main players and give them a beating is completely gone. Maybe the team has completely lost faith in Rafa, as it seems a lot of the fans (and I don't mean the stupid doom mongering internet fans) are starting too. It just doesn't make sense why he is too stubborn to make changes when he clearly gets his team wrong. And for the love of God please drop Carragher.

What's most frustrating is we basically threw the title away last year when United could easily have been caught. I don't think United and Chelsea of this season are as good as they were last, yet rather than improving we've took a drastic step backwards (to 2002 it would seem). Still, at least we have a nice easy game coming up next...oh no wait.

United at home is the best game you could've hoped for after last night, give all their players a chance to fight for the club and show the fans they give a shit. You won't be expected to win by many, so a loss won't be hugely unexpected. I wouldn't be surprised if you beat us, however.

Where to start, well starting with 1 fucking striker in a fucking home game that we have to fucking win against a team we should fucking beat!!!
McGregor - Couldn't really be faulted for the goals but flapped at a few crosses.
Whittaker - Shite but at least he tried.
McCulloch - So bad, get him tae fuck.
Weir - Too old, too slow and no captain.
Papac - Meh
Thompson - Still doesn't look fit and needs to sort his tackling out.
Rothen - So fucking bad, just so fucking bad. Had high hopes for him as well.
Mendes - Shite, sell him. Has played about 4 games for us since he arrived.
Davis - Blew his big moment, crap penalty and crap performance. Only seems to play well when we play well and can't grab the game by the scruff.
Naismith - Hmmmm tried but got nothing.
Miller - Not good enough.
Subs
Lafferty - £3.5m well spent........no wait he's fucking dreadful.
Novo - Always bursts a gut.

We have no leader whatsoever, say what you like about Barry F but at least he could fucking get the troops going and led the team.
I am fucking horrifed and embarrased by that performance last night.
And it isn't gonna get any better.

Just looked at the coefficients, and you're 13th. The last automatic qualification spot goes to last season's winners or (if they've qualified through their league) the winners of the nation in 13th spot.

Last season's dismal effort's going to cost Scotland for quite some time though.

I have it from inside sources that walter is fed up and has been for some time but i think he is part of the problem and while he did what we needed to do after the Le Guen stuff he has stagnated and that is his team out there. Not sure where we go from here, we really are in the shit and have no money whatsoever.

but for the first time in around 13 years I'm going to gloat in the glory of QPR. 3 home games in a row now where in all seriousness we could have scored 7 or 8 AND we're playing great football. I think LLB said as pretty much the same about Saturday's match to be fair. Anyway, long may it continue of course although it has to be said, sorry Reading fans, your team are bollox.

Re: Liverpool, was it really such a shock result? Lyon are a good side and have been for some time.

I was saying early in the season when we clicked we'd hand out a beating - we've now dished out 3 in our last five games.

After seeing how well we played against Preston I was worried we'd be complacent, but we picked up where we left off.

Only bad point is Watson getting sent off again, but it was a disgrace. Sent off for - taking a free kick quickly. But then Buzz put the ball down and scored from the same free kick. He's in the form of his life at the mo.

Jay Simpson has now scored 5 in 9. Routledge is running riot. Faurlin looks Premiership class - £3.5m looks like a snip. Gorkks is bossing the back, Cerny is the best keeper in the league. Taarabt has learned to play as part of a team. And then we can bring Vine off the bench.