Where is the place in the pic? train rail and road in one small tunnel?

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Wasn't there a plan of building a 15km long bridge? I remember watching about this on Discovery channel.

I have heard that too

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Where is the place in the pic? train rail and road in one small tunnel?

You mean the one I posted? That's on the road to Whittier, Alaska. I just took it from Google Images, I haven't driven there myself, unfortunately.

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150.000 - 300.000 vehicles a day seems nuts to me. The problem is many major infrastructural projects are overestimated at usage to justify the costs.

Google on "Flyvbjerg megaprojects" for instance.

i think he referred to 150.000 - 300.000 persons/day vehicle/day.with an average of only 2pers/car it makes quite a difference.75000vehicles/day are feasible in my opinion after let's say 15-20 years, especially if they build entertainment areas on the bridge.

I don't know, most border crossings in Europe don't have more than 30.000 vehicles a day.

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But this bridge would not only be a connection between two continents, it would allow for the tourist areas on the Costa del Sol to be expanded to northern Morocco. And as someone said earlier in the thread, the summer brings a lot of Moroccans crossing the strait.

The idea for underwater tidal turbines isn't that crazy there over there. The tide is very strong in the strait of Gibraltar is very strong.

But about the connection: I'm not sure. There are indeed quite a few Moroccans that cross the strait each year, but are they "worth" building the bridge for? Will they keep using that bridge in the future? Will other people be using it a lot as well? Will it economically aid the environment there? I personally think they're looking too big, but heh. This'll take ages before it will be built, so I don't fear it too much.

They would probably have to pay high tolls. How much is the ferry right now?

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It's a lot easier to defend both sides of such a tunnel than the whole strait, so I doubt illegal immigrants are going to cause problems for the project. There's a ton of other more serious problems if they'd be able to go ahead with this

I don't know about trucks, but buses pay on a length basis. 360 euro for 12 metres and then its 43,20 for every extra metre. Crossing the strait by boat has become unbearably expensive. My family have been taking our car to Morocco every summer since 1986, but now it's nowhere close to being economically defendable (it was until a few years ago).

Going by airplane is cheaper now. As for the "illegal immigrant question", a tunnel or a bridge is way more easier to check. The immigrants are using small boats anyway, i dont see how a small boat will move on asphalt.

Those "illegal immigrants" will stay using those small boats anyway. It's very difficult to check the entire strait for illegal immigrants, especially during the night.

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