Do any real shotgun muzzle breaks that do not require gunsmithing exist? I ignorantly ordered the ATI shotforce muzzle mount, and what do you know, after one use the thing cracks all the way down the middle. Completely worthless, probably the worst $15 i've ever spent in my life. Thankfully it was only $15 though.

Anyways I want to get a real muzzle break. Anyone know of anything good that would work on my 12 ga?

There are two advantages to permanent attachment- first of all, you don't have to worry about it coming loose. Second of all, with the brake permanently attached, it is considered part of the barrel, which means that the barrel can be cut under 18", so long as after the brake is attached, the overall length is over 18".

Well why do you really need it? I don't think it effects the recoil all that much, most of the muzzle attaachments being sold nowadays are just for the tacti-cool look.

I'd just say do this: Go get some high quality super glue, at any hardware store. Apply it to the rim of the muzzle. Then slap it into your car door, and hold it there for five minutes, applying pressure constantly. Then just pull back sharply and tear the car door off. Now load it with several rounds of slugs and buckshot, randomly varying, and fire a few boxes of rounds. That will clear the hole. Voila! The world's best muzzle brake. Now if you want to take it off just throw the whole gun away.

At night a BG just might return fire where he saw a big fireball, and even though the BG cannot see my silhouette to aim at, he might still hit me. Better safe than sorry means, to me, get the KA-1212 for home defense shotguns.

Now the permanent methods of the installing the KA-1212 are exactly what nearly everyone will prefer. I had considered moving to California and I was concerned that California might someday change their assault weapons ban to include shotguns with flash suppressors. Among lots of other weapons that are currently banned as assault weapons in California are "A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and ...(E) A flash suppressor..." I have put a good deal of thought and expense in my HD shotgun, and I decided that, for me only, the set screw/drilled dimples attachment method was preferable, so that if California ever in the future does ban shotguns with flash suppressors, I could just take it off.

I have some C#$%blocker and Rollingblunder barrels for the 870 in bound. If they ever show up I'll get some info out on them. One of my test shotguns has a removable breacher that could also be fit with a muzzle brake I suppose. I shot it in a few courses with the breacher in place. It never came of but it did come loose a few times. It was only on hand tight though so that contributed to it.

I'm getting ready to send out a 870 to be magna ported for some testing. I'd have to say that porting the barrel is the only "muzzle brake" for a shotgun that I am interested in.

Kingjoey, I got my Model 11 barrel back, thanks. I can't get you PM though, can you give me a call? I'm going to shoot one of those 870 barrels out to you when I get them in.