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Jester’s Trek: Quote of the Week – Meta Irony^4

Telling us about something after you’ve used the heck out of it isn’t what we consider to be responsible. We do our best to be lenient in cases such as this but we want this to serve as a notice to the community that the proper time to alert us to the issue was before actually using the system.

Uhhh… Sreegs? Remember a couple of weeks back, when I mentioned that Goons complaining about other EVE players exploiting game mechanics was a weaponized level of irony that could flatten whole cites?

Yeah. That.

Semi-seriously, one of the reasons The Mittani struggled in the role of being CSM Chairman was because he felt he couldn’t be both a good Chairman and “a good Goon” which of course means “really good at making other people feel really bad.” So this is a lovely time to point out again that CCP Sreegs is himself a former Goon. As a result, reading something from CCP Sreegs begging EVE players — EVE players! — not to exploit broken game mechanics produced a charming level of meta irony that had me smiling the rest of the day after I read it.

I kind of wonder if Sreegs has the same struggle.

Anyway, the fact that he was essentially addressing this plea to — you know — Goons made it that much more delicious. I can only imagine the level of humor that this is producing on the Goon forums themselves. Anyone want to copy a few choice examples into the comments?

Just to be clear, we’ve got about four levels of meta here:

It was Goons that exploited the FW mechanics.

It was a former Goon that had to punish them for it.

It was the same former Goon that then begged current Goons to stop; and,

then begged them to — rather than be Goons — to instead tell him about the next thing they’re going to exploit before they exploit it.

Then the intel I was privy to was incorrect or incomplete. Thanks Bagehi.

Still, CFC/Honeybadger safeposses in SoCo's main staging system ::smug::

July 4, 2012 at 6:12 pm

jelly

Yeah, let's downvote this guy for reporting on stuff going down in Delve, a war that's gotten attention from places like PCGamer among other gaming sites. Let's just not talk about that because it obviously won't draw in anybody to this game. Instead, let's talk about shit that's been resolved for two weeks along with speculation and tin foil hat crap.

I'm hesitant to write reports on these fights of late, honestly. In each fight, the winning side completely dominates the other side in numbers and tactics. Each resembles a massacre more than a battle.

Why is it in any way unfair to use the mechanics of the game to your advantage? Ccp makes the rules. In case you don't like the outcome you can't blame others for not playing the game the way you think it should be played.

"lets see you take an even match fleet against them" That is what the Alliance Tournament is for, didn't you watch any of it? Outside of some silly pew pew tourney, when it comes to Sov and ISK why should anyone fight fair? You wine about Goonswarm being shit, they must have outsmarted you or beaten you in PVP. You are obviously lower on the food chain than this 'shit' so what does that make you?

Goons, Test, and PL love to win. It's not gudfites but rather a purge. It's kind of like playing tik tac toe, goons, test, and pl get 4 x's, the other guys get 1 o and they get to go first. Hey everyone o/, I win the game, aren't I fantabulous!

Jester wrote a very funny lil piece that makes people smile or laugh for that matter. He is indeed pointing out that Sreegs did exactly what he is supposed to as CCP Spaceshipsecurityduder and points out that Sreegs has changed from being a goon to the person who is litteraly on the other side of the fence now.

Whether you love or hate Goons, you have to admit that when they exploit game weakness, things get fixed better and quicker than if they had simply told CCP what was wrong. In some ways, they improve the game.

i still don't get how everyone's pretending they got punished..they got all their investment back plus multiple plex, both goons and sreegs are acting like they got an ass woopin when it wasn't even a slap on the wrist.

a slap on the wrist for using game mechanics multiple times and getting reward purely from market manipulation and killing ships (doesn't matter its your alt or someone) so yea. Using game mechanics and getting banned for it or even punished is like a huge wtf. like me say this, ccp can only return their investment back and give em plex cause they can't do anything worst (maybe without the plex)

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