I really give up. If you want to be an ostrich then so be it. If you really get offended when someone points out your laziness then fix the problem so it doesn't happen in the first place. When did everyone become such wimps?

I don't think you understand what we're getting at here. When someone's offended they don't have a problem. They just won't play with you anymore and then it's your problem. You never know where that person you offended is going to end up. Someday they may step up their game and eventually wind up in a really good guild that you apply to. One bad word from them and you're rejected. You won't even know why. By all means continue to act like a complete jerk and chalk up the offence everyone else takes to mere wimpiness. I guarantee that no one is losing sleep over putting you on their ignore list. The problem ultimately becomes yours, not theirs. This advice applies in game as well as in real life. A little courtesy goes a long way and costs you absolutely nothing. What does anyone ever gain by acting like an asshole?

What you deem lazy may not be laziness at all, if you read my previous posts.

You're still dancing around the real problem here. He was a raid leader, forming a raid. Not a 5man, scenario, farming run, zerging a world boss, etc. There's a certain level of expectation when doing a raid. You aren't missing 15 enhancements because "you forgot" or you are "low on gold." Even if the person recently received 3 items what about the other 4?

You're still dancing around the real problem here. He was a raid leader, forming a raid. Not a 5man, scenario, farming run, zerging a world boss, etc. There's a certain level of expectation when doing a raid. You aren't missing 15 enhancements because "you forgot" or you are "low on gold." Even if the person recently received 3 items what about the other 4?

What does it matter if its a low-pop realm or not? Noone is an enchanter? Got no jewelcrafters floating about?

You can keep telling yourself there are all these excuses but it comes down to the fact you arent prepared to do the ground work for raiding and therefore should not be surprised if youre told youre not invited.

I just joined some random group from tradechat for a flex raid because I had nothing else to do. I was so bored that I thought I would look the guy up on the armory (the raidleader and tank who invited me) and this is what happened

Which server was that?

"There is a pervasive myth that making content hard will induce players to rise to the occasion. We find the opposite. " -- Ghostcrawler
"Almost every time I have gotten to know a critic personally, they keep up with the criticism but lose the venom." -- Ghostcrawler
"Nothing will ever be attempted if all possible objections must first be overcome." -- Samuel Johnson

I grouped in a flex today. First try against sha of pride. Top dps and we all wiped because tank went down. Second try top dps again this time I aggroed the adds off the tank somehow even after waiting for him to aggro, and they kick me saying I wasn't thunder clapping enough. Now this is the problem with flex and I'm sure it's very realm dependent, but in my experiences there is huge turnover because the person who puts these groups together is usually the lowest common denominator when it comes to understanding how to manage players.

This mentality that if it is not one shot you should replace players over and over. I've seen this in oqueue too. Everyone is most likely learning by experience anyway, and then you kick them right when there starting to get it. You can read about the boss 100 times but actually doing the fight is were you really learn.

What does it matter if its a low-pop realm or not? Noone is an enchanter? Got no jewelcrafters floating about?

Lol, you ask the question and then give the answer in the same post.

Originally Posted by Murderdoll

You can keep telling yourself there are all these excuses but it comes down to the fact you arent prepared to do the ground work for raiding and therefore should not be surprised if youre told youre not invited.

It's impossible to be fully prepared for raiding without external help on a single character. Mining/Jewelcrafting's probably the best you can do, missing enchants, Leatherworking Leg Armor, Glyphs, and so on. There's always a hole in a blanket dismissal of someone with lacking evidence.

Just to clarify I am myself ready for raiding on my main, just need a guild or a PuG to get myself started. :3

Thank god the majority of those "muh $15" players are doing LFR rather than Flex now. I've got my alts up to the point where they don't need a single piece of gear from LFR which makes me extremely happy. I will not step another foot into LFR (ever) as long as Flex continues to exist.

LFR is basically designed for the following group of people:

- People who refuse to follow or learn boss mechanics
- People who refuse to learn how to efficiently play their class in a raiding environment
- People who want to feel special with purple gear but don't want to take the time to pug anything else

I'm sure this will be quoted with "but I'm a casual", "muh $15" and other "I have a life" type comments. Everyone has a life.. even a good majority of Blood Legion raiders have lives and jobs. I'm tired of people using the "I have a life" excuse as to why they can't move out of AoE or follow simple mechanics.

Exactly. I did ToT LFR for the first time ever last night. No one killed adds on Horridon -> wipe. Even after that there were players who tunnelled Horridon. They are now on my ignore list. There were also many deaths due to people parking in bad stuff. Even more additions to my ignore list. The fact that I was able to get some kills and walk away with gear is a win in my book. I would rather be forced to carry a few idiots who I can then ignore than waste two hours in LFR filtering out duds.