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In April and May of 2007 Dutch investigators search the grounds and home of the van der Sloots and the Kalpoes respectively. Results of the search were never revealed.________

'CBS News'

In April, investigators from the Netherlands dug around the home of van der Sloot's family for two days without revealing what prompted the search. Then in May, Dutch and Aruban investigators visited the home where Deepak and Satish Kalpoe live with their parents for what authorities termed an "inspection," without revealing details.

I just returned from My trip less than an hour ago and I have read Your comments about the movie...I plan to watch it when it repeats at 1100pm central time.....On Dishnetwork it will also repeat tomorrow morning at 1100AM.....

Might I add that I saw Julia's post that Klaas brought over from RU...All I can say is

JULIA YOU ARE AN IDIOT and IT IS NO WONDER YOU CHOOSE TO LIVE ON ARUBA...YOU FIT IN PERFECTLY WITH THE REST OF THE IDIOTS ON THAT FRIGGING ISLAND!

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In God We Trust!Prayers Will Bring Natalee Home!May 2010 Bring Natalee Home to Rest In Peace!

I just got home and missed the movie -- I'm sure I will catch the repeat. Of course there will be inaccuracies -- but the main message will get through!! The IMPORTANT thing is to bring the case back to public exposure!!! Our work is to keep the pressure back on!

In mid December of 2007 a crew of Americans on board a vessel named The Persistence begins a search for Natalee Holloway's remains in the waters off Aruba. On Christmas Day a discovery is made while sonar scanning the ocean floor. The discovery was a large fish trap. On December 29th an ROV is ultilized to capture images of what is contained within.

Kyle Kingman, the ROV operator and remote analysis on board the Persistence, came to the conclusion that Natalee Holloway's remains may have been placed within that trap.

However, on a December 30, 2007, Aruban divers claimed that their investigation revealed there was nothing related to the Natalee Holloway case inside the trap.

John Silvetti, the Project Lead on board the Persistence, accepted the words of the Aruban divers unconditionally.______

The Persistence - Key Personnal

John Silvetti - Project Lead and Key Contributor- Responsible for overall project planning and development. Owner of Marine Surveys, LLC . Donated the R/V Persistence for the search effort.http://silvettigroup.com/

Kyle Kingman: I found the trap on 1:45am Christmas morning. I got the OK to begin our ROV dive series for the 29th, so I made it our first dive. We got visual of the fish trap and that it was suspicious. Basically, the fish trap door was open and there appeared to be a skull and torso-shape in sand on the door inside the trap Reviewing the 29-Dec video I noticed the torso shape in sand had a 90 degree angle and that the sand was supported from falling through the bottom of the trap, which was slightly excavated by currents. I proportioned out the distance from the top of the head, to shoulder, to that 90 degree angle and it was a match to Natalee's photo of her standing -head, to shoulder, to the end of her denim skirt. I showed TM the proportional match and the possibility of a skirt under the sand.

Kyle Kingman: On the morning of the 30th we met on board the Persistence with Hans Mos, Richardson, and the rest of the police brass and dive division. I showed them all the 29th dive video and they agreed that it was very suspicion and looked promising.

Kyle Kingman: Later that day 30-Dec we conducted the dive with the Aruban divers along with our own Tim Trahan.

Kyle Kingman: What you can't see is immediately before Tim approached the trap opening, a large skate stirred up sediment reducing visibility.

Kyle Kingman: When Tim T. gives one thumb down, he said that it was inconclusive. He couldn't tell by his own admission.

Kyle Kingman: The Arubans told us there wasn't anything of interest in the trap based on the visual-only inspection.

Kyle Kingman: John (Silvetti) is not a believer in the trap. He took ALE's word as gospel that it wasn't case related, yet never studied the videos or bothered to inquire further. He had plans on doing business with Aruba and in S. America and he didn't want to hurt any feelings by talks hinting at lack of complete trust and friendship. I did not feel the same and we had a major difference in opinion. He was the one who never pressed ALE to be completely open with us with the trap evidence. I would have forced them to. However, John was the one paying my invoices so I was forced to sit back and hope for the best.

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"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo

On January 7, 2008 Aruban divers sampled and recovered the contents of the large fish trap disovered with sonar on the ocean floor off the coast of Aruba on Christmas Day, 2007 by the ROV operator and remote analyst on board the Persistence.

The crew of the Persistence were not involved in the recovery process ... only the Arubans.

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In His Own Words

Kyle Kingman: The Persistence had no divers on the 7th. Tim Trahan was our diver on the 30th-Dec, but he was out of the country at the time. The Aruban divers were on the police boat, dove from their boat, and returned to their boat.

Kyle Kingman: They were immediately whisked away by the Aruban police and not seen of again by us on the 7th

Kyle Kingman: The bags were deliberately placed there after the divers sampled the contents. The bags were removed just after the ROV got out of the way when the divers took the samples to their boat.... and took off.

Kyle Kingman: I get done in the survey room backing up the ROV dive and head to the back deck to talk to the Polis divers and see what they sampled and see the Polis boat way in the distance heading away fast. John doesn't seem concerned at all, but I am very dissapointed, concerned, and burning inside because I have a feeling that I/we will never know what they took from the trap. That evening I talked to John asking when we plan on recovering the trap. Previously this was part of the talks and plan, but this time he doesn't seem concerned about ever looking into the trap further. After John verbally BASHED me about the trap for what I said to Tim Miller about the sand body-form and that I believed her skirt was under the sand, John pretty much committed himself to the belief the trap wasn't what we were after. This shocked me because it was exactly what we were looking for- a fish trap lost at sea with human remains.

Kyle Kingman: I personally was extremely uncomfortable with the chain of custody, being that we weren't a part of it, but I was powerless to do anything about it. The samples were photographed in detail by one Aruban diver and the other two investigated the contents of the trap, the dimensions, the rigging, and what surrounded the trap. From the video, it looked like they did a diligent and careful job with the samples and the underwater photography. I don't know who has these pictures, but I must assume ALE.

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"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo

The inaccuracies were hard to watch....but all in all, it makes me even madder at the perps and the cover up aruban and dutch a$$holes...I'm sure it will bring a lot of attention to the cause for Justice for Natalee!And THAT is what it is about! The beige reporter must have been renho and the dark suited woman was introduced as the US State department rep on aruba.......the one who challenged Beth and Jug after Beth called the kalpoes criminals...I hope this show makes our own state department question their own actions/or lack there of, on behalf of a US citizen denied justice while out of the US.....

Posted at RU. I see Renfro hasn't changed. She must not have liked the way she was portrayed in the movie:

So it's the mom's fault if they maintain a dangereous island. There, Renfro has finally told the truth! Tourists are at fault who visit her island for they "decided" to go swim with the sharks by just visiting there as tourists.

See, the US how the powers in Aruba really feel about our tourism?

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