--- Log opened Wed Sep 17 00:00:58 2014
01:04 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/wince_arm/svn/navit-svn-5897.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_x86/svn/navit-svn-5897.failed
01:04 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
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16:35 #navit: < jandegr> hi kazer, I made another comment on #1250 despite the commit and the closing of the ticket, important for your weekend drives !
16:36 #navit: ah! thanks for caring about my week-end drives :D
16:40 #navit: mmm. i reviewed the video QA and indeed. There is no more turn smth error, but the announcement is missing instead
16:40 #navit: good catch!
16:44 #navit: < jandegr> thx, I suppost the XML's won't be updated right away but as long as it is not forgotten.
16:45 #navit: < tryagain> KaZeR i guess we have to set last routable item to former_itinerary_part
16:45 #navit: tryagain: can you elaborate please ?
16:45 #navit: < tryagain> to have forest_way_s included
16:46 #navit: < tryagain> and different piste types
16:46 #navit: < tryagain> there are more possibly routable items after parking_lane
16:47 #navit: < tryagain> and we should include these into xml too
16:47 #navit: good point
16:48 #navit: by setting the parking lane in navit.xml, i'm getting the following routing output : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXh0QQWdrLg
16:49 #navit: i have the feeling that the audio routing isn't super accurate, not sure i would follow the correct route without looking at the map
16:52 #navit: < jandegr> kazer I get what you mean but you give the moste complicated sample I've ever seen, I usually leave the parking lot towards the roundabout on the north of it
16:53 #navit: < jandegr> and then announcement is realistic
16:53 #navit: haha jandegr i only used the coordinates you gave me and set a destination outside of the parking :)
16:53 #navit: well that makes sense, when you are on a parking you usually know how to get out of it.
16:55 #navit: < jandegr> and I am convinced this is the way to go, either announce it or not, no inbetweens like 'go left error' or only follow the road's as in your first vid.
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16:56 #navit: < Mineque> hi
16:56 #navit: jandegr: yeah we definitely want to avoid having 'error' in the message
16:57 #navit: < jandegr> and as tryagain pointed out, with the same effort we can solve issues when he is cruising through the forest or skiing :)
16:58 #navit: < jandegr> and navigation.c does not really have a logic to skip certain navigation items either, the best it can do is deliberatly produce error
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17:01 #navit: < tryagain> maybe patch navigation.c to find first and last routable item by analyzing routing profile?
17:03 #navit: < jandegr> tryagain please do not do that right away, I think we have to track existing bugs first before making big changes.
17:04 #navit: < jandegr> I also have a related #1240 that I am still working on to solve first
17:09 #navit: < tryagain> ok jandegr
17:12 #navit: < jandegr> follow the road for the next zero meters if nice too, I suppose that means we have a liftoff now :(
17:16 #navit: < jandegr> does follow the road for the next ... meters not have a threshold somewhere ? don't need that for zero, 10, 30 or whatever meters, or is ther someting in xml to arrange this ?
17:24 #navit: btw tryagain, do you know what happened to the attributes distance_metric ?
17:31 #navit: < jandegr> distance_metric was removed in r5822 ???
17:37 #navit: mmm actually there's indeed no more reference to it in the code
17:37 #navit: so the commit makes sense
17:39 #navit: < jandegr> I don't know any of the background of it , but I get a bunch of error messages when starting navit
17:41 #navit: < jandegr> navit:convert_to_attrs:failed to create attribute 'distance_metric' with value .... is this related ?
17:42 #navit: yes. you need to remove the distance_metric attributes in navit.xml.
17:42 #navit: i'll fix navit_shipped.xml
17:44 #navit: < jandegr> as far as I understand the values of level 0,1 and two for distance become or already are useless ?
17:57 #navit: yes. i'm not sure of why they have been removed, but the navigation does not use them anymore
17:59 #navit: < tryagain> it was sleske removing unsued items from the item_def.h He probably forgot to fix navit_shipped. And routing code didn't use distance_metric at that time.
18:02 #navit: < jandegr> this will drasticly reduce the number of lines in xml :)
18:07 #navit: < Mineque> same as removing map layout colors would reduce it
18:07 #navit: < Mineque> just single line include
18:07 #navit: < Mineque> from map_layouts subdir
18:14 #navit: < Mineque> but cp15 didnt like the idea
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18:48 #navit: he had his reasons for that, one of them being that it was easier to maintain a single xml file for ALL devices / platform that you can parse afterwards. that makes sense, even if it can be a bit of a pain in some use cases
19:08 #navit: < Mineque> womens IT stuff http://www.zabawneobrazki.pl/obrazki/informatyczki.jpg
19:11 #navit: < Navit> kazer_ * r5898 /trunk/navit/navit/navit_shipped.xml: Fix:Core:Removed deprecated distance_metric attributes from navit_shipped.xml, as a follow up to r5822 http://sourceforge.net/p/navit/code/5898/
19:19 #navit: < jandegr> kazer don't take my word for it but why keep level if you remove distance ?
19:20 #navit: jandegr: good point. I have to confess i did not check if level could be removed. I only noticed the distance_metric debug output complaining about the attribute not existing
19:22 #navit: < jandegr> I understand you were carefull, but to me it seems like a key-value pair, you removed the value but keep the key, but I will test it in the next few days what happens if key is removed also
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