I surfed Hawaii years ago and found it pretty mellow. But am always hearing stories about how heavy it is these days. I surf Around the Margaret River region a fair bit and am constantly amazed how little agro there is given the quality of the waves. It seems the same guys seem to create and get themselves in trouble over and over. Respect and common sense seem to be the cornerstones of avoiding agro,

Why won't you die !!! Your all over these forums like a Rash. Your ennoying and stupid. Do us all a favor and just stop posting. Wait.... I'll take that back. Since this forum is your only social life, and your probably a Beer Bellied, Alcoholic, drugged out , child molesting weaner, that lives in a trailor park with no car or Job, Left home playing with yourself and eating your boogers that hang out your nose, I'll leave you alone to get insulted. LOSER !!!!!!!!

My philosophy about localism is this. It is only a state of mind that is validated by the selfish one who want all the waves for themselves. I think that everyone needs to realize that every surfer paddles out to a break for one reason and one reason only. To have fun.

I don't paddle out so that I can satisfy someone elses need for stoke. With that said, surfing is pretty much a selfish sport because it is mostly solitary. You against the wave. If we all learned to share, respect others, and be nice, localism would probably not exist. NO one should have a given right to surf break, unless of course that individual owns that part of the ocean or beach. Localism is born out of selfishness in not wanting to share a break. We are all custodians of mother natures magic, no matter where we hang our hat or stow our quiver.

I agree with most of what you said KD. But I think that like any sport, We should all respect each other in the water. Pro surfers are stoked when they see someane they know or don't know have a radical ride on a 15 ft pipe, or 60 ft Wiami wave.
The whole thing about surfing is that those of us who do it, all know what it feels like to coast a clean beautiful wave. We all get the stoke and should respect each other. Meaning , We shouldn't snake someanes wave, watch out in the lineups, and help those who are novices at the sport. There is a sterio type about surfers the is very negative.

You know why the Hawaiins are assholes ? Because they put up with losers that don't respect the laws of their land and rules of the ocean. Mainlanders go over and act like know it all, snaking the waves like no tomorrow, Littering their beaches, and having no regard for the customs of the Islands. And you can bitch all you want about how it shouldn't be like that, and how surfers are one and the same and should respect eachother. Fact is...... You flew here, We grew here. Learn the rules or prepare to get worked.