I really want a stiff bike. I had my eyes set on a Storck, but I'm finding it hard to find one at a reasonable price. I know Canyon also has a great reputation for being stiff (and seem to be quite sought over in the US), so I was intrigued when I found a frameset used locally. It's a 2005 F10 Ultimate. Anyway, don't really know a lot about how this particular frameset handles compared to the rest of the Canyon line. I looked it up and apparently it only run 1300 euros new, or 999 with a race license (which seems kind of cheap). The seller wants 700, but I'm not sure if that is fair or whether I should offer lower.

I had a 2006 one which was IIRC the same. Think its a great bike but at that time they were even stiffer than they are now. Also watch for the seatclamp as mine corroded away to sh!t, and I THINK the Canyon fork recall was only for 2006/7 bikes but probably a good idea to check with the owner when & if the fork was changed. Depending on its condition I would say its not dated much, but still 700 for a 6 year old frame for me, personally, is high.

I think the reason why canyons appear sought after in general is they tend to be nice for the price. Their scarcity in the US along with their good branding and "euro" image adds to their cachet here.

If you can get a new one for 1000 bucks and are prepared to pay 700 for a used one, I would suggest springing for a new one. If that's outside of your budget, go with something less expensive or newer: buying a used carbon frame when you don't know the seller has risks associated with it, especially a 7 year old carbon frame.

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