FBI agents visited the offices of the conservative Weekly Standard magazine yesterday after a shooting at the Holocaust Memorial Museum and told employees they'd found the magazine's address

A senior Standard staffer confirmed the visit but declined to discuss it in detail. An FBI spokeswoman, Katherine Schweit , also declined to comment on the investigation.

Two other sources said two FBI agents arrived shortly after 5:00 p.m. Thursday at the 17th Street offices of the magazine. They told staffers that they had found the address of the magazine on a piece of paper associated with the shooter, James von Brunn, and asked whether the Standard had received any threats.

The magazine is about a mile north of the Holocaust Museum, and there's no other indication that von Brunn had targeted it. Von Brunn's published rants included attacks on "neocons," and the Standard has been at the heart of the neoconservative movement.

The suggestion that the Standard may have been a target complicates any view of the racist shooter in contemporary left-right terms. Von Brunn's white supremacist roots put him under the rubric of a "right-wing extremist," but the substance of his views -- which included everything from believing that President Bush may have been in on the September 11 attacks to denying that President Obama is an American citizen -- are too far on the fringe to fit into conventional political classification.

The focus on the Standard, though, appears to be of a piece with his central motivation: Anti-Semitism. In one essay, Von Brunn attacked "JEWS-NEOCONS-BILL OREILLY," and the suggestion that neoconservatism is a specifically Jewish conspiracy is common on the racist fringe.

"Do you think the government will show the video from the Holocaust Museums exterior surveillance cameras of the 90 year old man getting out of his car with a long gun  and the video that would show him shuffling down the sidewalk as he made his way to the museums entrance?"

Direct quote from the shooter “SOCIALISM, represents the future of the West”

Reminds me of this quote:

“We are socialists, we are enemies of todays capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.

- Adolf Hitler

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posted on 06/11/2009 1:36:09 PM PDT
by Jewbacca
(The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)

Haven’t really been following it too much, but I would like to know where the links are to what you are saying, so I can prove one of my friends on Facebook wrong. Especially about his pagan beliefs and Christian hating.

A liberal friend of mine posted on Facebook the following, and I want to show her up.

“I am more concerned with the threat from the Christian-identity groups than the homegrown Islamic terrorists. Its a disaster waiting to happen. The fact that this guy did what he did may be symptomatic of things to come. - Maria Haberfeld, a professor at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, on yesterday’s shooting at the U.S. Holocaust Museum in Washington, D.C. I say amen to that!!”

Right: if it’s not anti-Semtic for Christians to want Jews to accept Christ, then it can’t be anti_Christian for Jews to want Christians to renounce Christ. Considering the current state of US-Israel relations, it seemed like a good reply.

Well, sure, but the stress is one hell of a lot lower. And then he got shot, too, which he certainly must have expected, but lived. I’m a good bit younger than 88 but just the shock of geeting shot might kill me even if the wound itself didn’t.

The term "neo-cons" as a euphemism for JEWS is used by the extreme left and the extreme so-called right.

Maybe if Bill O'Reilly wants to do something purposeful, he can have his people scour the left-wing websites for angry references to "neo-cons" as the source of some push for war and support of Israel.

The new anti-semitism says "neo-cons" and "zionists" instead of Jews.

The new anti-semitism equates Israeli soldiers with nazis:

The new anti-semitism marginalizes Jews who are politically conservative by suggesting that their loyalties are not with America.

You've had multiple attacks and attempted attacks from prison converts, going back to the shoe bomber. There's no indication yet that this guy was a Christian Identity member, but even if you lump CI and neonazis together, there are a limited number of incidents, with the CI connection at best tangential. I agree there's a disaster waiting to happen out there, you can always check back with her in 6 months, you'll have an answer then. Or if perchance she's a liberal with global conscience, check back in 6 weeks and compare global attacks by Muslims with attacks by neonazis. The likelihood is youll be comparing mayhem with a few cemetery and Synagogue desecrations. Thats not to say these people shouldnt be condemned, but its not necessary to ignore a real threat to life to do that. Tell her she can condemn both, its easy. In many ways theyre the sides of a coin.

Right: if its not anti-Semtic for Christians to want Jews to accept Christ, then it cant be anti_Christian for Jews to want Christians to renounce Christ. Considering the current state of US-Israel relations, it seemed like a good reply.

You misunderstood. It not antisemitic for Christians to evangelize. My point was that there simply aren't Jews who want Christians to renounce Christ as was suggested. There's no reason to since the righteous have a place in the world beyond, whether Jewish, or Christian or Muslim, pretty much anyone other than idolators.

"It not antisemitic for Christians to evangelize. My point was that there simply aren't Jews who want Christians to renounce Christ as was suggested."

Um. WE know that. There would be no way ever that any Jew would proselytize to convert Christians to Judaism...but if you think about the original blaze comment in the context of this hate crime...it's insulting that anyone even thought it worth the effort of typing, let alone posting. What does conversion have to do with prejudice anyway?

The man walked in and shot another man dead, apparently at random. HE didn't know the man's religion, so conversion has nothing to do with it.

In context, since conversion had nothing to do with the crime, I found the comment insulting too.

I’m not sure how Marx’s derivative philosophical concoctions, or the actual texts from which his lies were derived, preclude him from being a satanist. His philosphy was a ploy designed to manipulate the masses and enslave the human race. And 100 years later, it’s still working.

I think this is generally true, but not the point of an absolute as you state. I have met at least a few Jewish people who do urge particular Christians, their offspring, to renounce Christ.

This is the news forum, not the religion forum, so I don't want to belabor this. But surely you must understand that a Jewish apostate is different than a Christian, and that a Jew counceling a family member who has left the faith, for any religion, not just Christianity, as to the reprecussions is quite different that the statement I responded to, which was that Jews try to convince Christians to abandon Christ, or some such nonsense. I didn't bother to go back and quote it.

I figure Don Curtis picked up a failed FM station for a song, made it FM talk. It's defineately a second tier for talkers. Curtis has RUSH/HANNITY/LEVIN on WPTF in Raleigh. The Burlington station carries into the Raleigh market.

Boortz and Savage are their heavyweights, but their local guys are not conservative at all.

I do enjoy the Dan Rather parody in the morning, they have it dead on.

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posted on 06/11/2009 6:21:46 PM PDT
by TC Rider
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