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I think that picture would be from around 1968 - correct? With Ellerslie Road going up a couple of years later?

Could the club possibly excavate the toilets in the latter stand, creating a 'long drop' style early Glasto- facility that would surely be an improvement on the current accommodation?

Just one other thought - has any serious research been done on a 'safe standing' conversion at LR? I'd be interested to know how far this could re-raise the capacity. The government's intransigence here is deeply depressing, but Hoos and Uncle Tony definitely seem to have missed a trick.

Increasing the capacity will do nothing towards increasing the revenue stream required to make QPR have a chance of competing against other Championship sides pushing for promotion. This has been discussed SO many times, how did you miss it?

I thought the main idea of moving to a super new stadium was to, er, increase capacity/ match-day income. And do a bit more hospitality, and build a few houses.

The irony of your reply is that I myself have pointed out that revenue from none of this will make a very significant difference to the club's balance sheet in the long term - that will come from Sky money, sponsorship and our inextricably linked league status. On the other hand, the damage to the club's history and 'soul' of abandoning out home is potentially incalculable.

All of which might make more critically minded supporters at least somewhat sceptical about what Hoos'/the Board's real agenda is re upping sticks. (Of course, they could all just 'love QPR', and I'm off my soft head.)

The stadium is losing money every season as it is only used 23 time a season + cup games. A new stadium is required to offer a facility for 360+ days a year and generate the income required to sustain the football side.

We've hosted YES and a Barry McGuigan punch-up among other things. If the club wanted to, it could improve what we've got and start pushing itself as a venue a bit more again. Frankly, a new soulless stadium is pointless unless we are in the EPL on a regular basis. Even then, with a 30K stadium, we still wouldn't sell out every match. Moving to a new ground is a risky business. A club can lose it's identity forever. As SR points out - in the grand scheme of things, it's the TV money that is the big revenue.

We've hosted YES and a Barry McGuigan punch-up among other things. If the club wanted to, it could improve what we've got and start pushing itself as a venue a bit more again. Frankly, a new soulless stadium is pointless unless we are in the EPL on a regular basis. Even then, with a 30K stadium, we still wouldn't sell out every match. Moving to a new ground is a risky business. A club can lose it's identity forever. As SR points out - in the grand scheme of things, it's the TV money that is the big revenue.

Yes and McGuigan were decades ago, and aside from the changes enforced by the Taylor report, the ground has altered very little since. It's dated and frankly barely fit for purpose in the Championship, which will be clear to anyone who travels away. A new ground is risky, but doesn't have to be soulless, and lord knows we've had more grounds than most in our history and the club is still alive and kicking.

Of course, the PL money is the big financial reward, but there's a lot of competition for that. With a new stadium, we should be in a better position to control our own destiny.