Now. Game just starting vs Hawaii. Supposed to be one of the best LT's in college, and his name has been linked to us in several mock drafts already. His number is 79.

Just watched the first couple of plays. The dude is big, and looks very moble as well. Could be something here! :toast:

Mecca

11-23-2007, 07:10 PM

Considering how this season is finishing we can get Sam Baker now.

Tribal Warfare

11-23-2007, 07:14 PM

Considering how this season is finishing we can get Sam Baker now.

Very true

keg in kc

11-23-2007, 07:15 PM

The dude is big, and looks very moble as well. Could be something here! Mobility schmobility, the only running he'll have to do is off the field after our 3rd down draw or incompletion.

CupidStunt

11-23-2007, 07:18 PM

Considering how this season is finishing we can get Sam Baker now.

Baker will be available much later. He may be the 3rd or 4th tackle taken.

Name recognition only gets you so far (with fans, basically). He isn't the highly-regarded pro prospect some seem to think.

I'll be disappointed if the Chiefs take him with a top-ten pick.

Mecca

11-23-2007, 07:19 PM

Baker is only dropping because he's been injured this year, he had a slight tear of his hamstring...

Coogs

11-23-2007, 07:21 PM

Mobility schmobility, the only running he'll have to do is off the field after our 3rd down draw or incompletion.

He sure looks like he can protect Croyles blind side though. He looks to have very quick feet. Dude is huge. Looks like a Willie Roaf that is about 20 years old.

HolmeZz

11-23-2007, 07:22 PM

Give me Michael Oher.

evolve27

11-23-2007, 07:25 PM

Brennan is a product of his system. Clady is a beast.

Tribal Warfare

11-23-2007, 07:26 PM

Give me Michael Oher.

haven't seen the kid play

Mecca

11-23-2007, 07:27 PM

Give me Michael Oher.

He's not a senior huh?

Coogs

11-23-2007, 07:30 PM

TD Boise State. Long run for Johnson. Clady got into the secondary and cleared the path. Dude looks good!

Mecca

11-23-2007, 07:31 PM

Let's understand they are playing Hawaii...

Coogs

11-23-2007, 07:32 PM

Let's understand they are playing Hawaii...

Yeah! Well... we play Denver and Oakland! :D

Mecca

11-23-2007, 07:50 PM

Well Colt Brennan looks awesome in the game.

Tribal Warfare

11-23-2007, 09:23 PM

Brennan is a product of his system. Clady is a beast.

Dude, Brennan is a badass

chiefbowe82

11-23-2007, 09:37 PM

idk he just got beat around the edge

dj56dt58

11-23-2007, 09:54 PM

just got beat again

Mecca

11-23-2007, 09:55 PM

Brennan's got balls I'll give him that.

dj56dt58

11-23-2007, 09:56 PM

Brennan's got balls I'll give him that.
true..of course if the Chiefs drafted him Herm would rip them off anyway

kcxiv

11-23-2007, 09:58 PM

Colt is a badass.

kcxiv

11-23-2007, 09:59 PM

true..of course if the Chiefs drafted him Herm would rip them off anyway
Him scoring in 2 min is to fast for Herm!

Mecca

11-23-2007, 10:31 PM

There ya go.....4th down play Boise has to have to stay in it...

Ryan Clady gets bitched QB gets the ball stripped from the backside.

kcxiv

11-23-2007, 10:34 PM

This is a pretty good game. Wonder what Hawaii would be if Michigan actually wanted to play them instead of App St. Probably just a few spots higher. lol

chiefbowe82

11-23-2007, 10:36 PM

kind of looks like a chris terry prospect...is that the top notch tackle material in college football?

Mecca

11-23-2007, 10:36 PM

Man if Kansas is good enough to be top 5 without playing anyone, shouldn't Hawaii be ranked higher then?

HolmeZz

11-23-2007, 10:39 PM

We're likely going to be picking too high to warrant taking Clady.

Mecca

11-23-2007, 10:39 PM

The Chiefs should draft that Bess kid somewhere in the mid rounds, he looks like he could be a hell of a slot WR.

kcxiv

11-23-2007, 10:40 PM

The Chiefs should draft that Bess kid somewhere in the mid rounds, he looks like he could be a hell of a slot WR.
Yeah, He's strong as hell. I think one dude said they compared him to a stronger Andre Rison. Not bad if you ask me. Just hope he doesnt have the Rison off the field problems.

HolmeZz

11-23-2007, 10:41 PM

Dorien Bryant > Davone Bess

Mecca

11-23-2007, 10:42 PM

Dorien Bryant > Davone Bess

i was talking like 4th or 5th round....I don't think Bess is some really highly thought of guy, at least at this point.

HolmeZz

11-23-2007, 10:43 PM

i was talking like 4th or 5th round....I don't think Bess is some really highly thought of guy, at least at this point.

He's a mid-round type. He could definitely go in the 3rd.

Mecca

11-23-2007, 10:44 PM

I also like Marcus Monk, but we'll see how he runs, tremendous size though.

HolmeZz

11-23-2007, 10:46 PM

Yeah I think Monk's 40 is going to sink him, and probably for good reason. I'm not sure of his ability to separate at the next level.

Mecca

11-23-2007, 10:47 PM

I think the Chiefs need to somehow find 2 productive receivers in this draft without using a 1st or 2nd round pick on them....that's difficult but doable.

L.A. Chieffan

11-23-2007, 10:48 PM

I shoulda went to UH

HolmeZz

11-23-2007, 10:49 PM

I think the Chiefs need to somehow find 2 productive receivers in this draft without using a 1st or 2nd round pick on them....that's difficult but doable.

Get one in the draft and you can add another through FA.

Mecca

11-23-2007, 10:50 PM

We're likely going to be picking too high to warrant taking Clady.

I tend to agree with this but what is your thought....Sedrick Ellis?

Mecca

11-23-2007, 10:50 PM

Get one in the draft and you can add another through FA.

Ok I have no idea who the FA WR's are......but Kennison, Parker and Drummond have to be gone after this year just due to age injury and general suck.

kcxiv

11-23-2007, 10:51 PM

haha, I bet Colt gets mad pussy over in Hawaii.

Mecca

11-23-2007, 10:52 PM

haha, I bet Colt gets mad pussy over in Hawaii.

It must be fun to be a star QB, while going to college in paradise.

HolmeZz

11-23-2007, 10:53 PM

I tend to agree with this but what is your thought....Sedrick Ellis?

Enough with your Trojans.

Ideally I'd love Andre Woodson or Michael Oher.

Mecca

11-23-2007, 10:54 PM

Enough with your Trojans.

Ideally I'd love Andre Woodson or Michael Oher.

I only bring up Ellis because he is a top 10 guy, 2nd best DT in the draft and is perfectly suited to be a cover 2 monster..

You should pull up that one thread.....the poster maddog doesn't think Andre Woodson is any good.....and told me he'd have to be a WR or CB to make it in the NFL....and acted like I was the stupid one for asking him if he was nuts..

True Story.

Here we go...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=174713

Start at the end you'll find it faster...I guess Andre Woodson sucks now :rolleyes:

Pablo

11-23-2007, 11:46 PM

Anybody watch NU play today?

That WR Purify looks like a stud in the making. Is he a senior, or what's the deal. He looks like he has good size and hands, but I only watched the game for about 20 minutes and he was making good plays all over.

Mecca

11-23-2007, 11:49 PM

Anybody watch NU play today?

That WR Purify looks like a stud in the making. Is he a senior, or what's the deal. He looks like he has good size and hands, but I only watched the game for about 20 minutes and he was making good plays all over.

He'll drop on draft day, a bunch of people even here didn't think he should be playing due to some off the field issues he has.

Pablo

11-23-2007, 11:51 PM

He'll drop on draft day, a bunch of people even here didn't think he should be playing due to some off the field issues he has.That's fine. Is he worth taking a gamble on?

What exactly did he do?

Mecca

11-23-2007, 11:53 PM

Guilty of assault, DUI, and 2 other misdemeanor charges - his punishment:

1 game suspension
------------------------------

Depends I guess, I think he's a first day talent....Actually scratch that, he could be one...

His numbers have to improve at workouts, I just checked it out..he's ranked 21st among senior recievers 6'4 220..4.65 40....he'll have to get faster and answer questions about off the field issues or he's going 2nd day.

Tribal Warfare

11-24-2007, 01:10 AM

I only bring up Ellis because he is a top 10 guy, 2nd best DT in the draft and is perfectly suited to be a cover 2 monster..

Ellis is in the John Randle mold

Tribal Warfare

11-24-2007, 01:13 AM

I really want to see what Oher looks like since their are so many good endorsements of the OT

Mecca

11-24-2007, 01:17 AM

If this team took Clady over say Sedrick Ellis I'd throw shit at my TV.....I don't care how bad everyone wants Oline.....Ellis will be a dominant pro bowl DT, they better not pass him for an above average LT.

Tribal Warfare

11-24-2007, 02:36 AM

If this team took Clady over say Sedrick Ellis I'd throw shit at my TV.....I don't care how bad everyone wants Oline.....Ellis will be a dominant pro bowl DT, they better not pass him for an above average LT.

their are a few mock drafts that have Ellis dropping to the #15-20 spot

Thig Lyfe

11-24-2007, 02:43 AM

Man if Kansas is good enough to be top 5 without playing anyone, shouldn't Hawaii be ranked higher then?

The nobodies in the Big 12 are much better than the nobodies in the WAC.

Micjones

11-24-2007, 05:26 AM

If this team took Clady over say Sedrick Ellis I'd throw shit at my TV.....I don't care how bad everyone wants Oline.....Ellis will be a dominant pro bowl DT, they better not pass him for an above average LT.

Drafting Defensive linemen is what has handicapped this franchise over the last 6-7 years.

We need a LT. Clady would be my pick.
We just drafted two DT's.

CupidStunt

11-24-2007, 05:33 AM

kind of looks like a chris terry prospect...is that the top notch tackle material in college football?

Oher is extremely raw and is only a junior. Other Juniors - Clady, Boone, Loadholt.

Tribal Warfare

11-24-2007, 06:02 AM

We need a LT. Clady would be my pick.
We just drafted two DT's.

If Ellis is the BPA you pick him

CupidStunt

11-24-2007, 06:51 AM

Oher is extremely raw and is only a junior. Other Juniors - Clady, Boone, Loadholt.

True, and the same goes for Loadholt. But both are extremely talented, huge, athletic and... friggin' beastly.

Sully

11-24-2007, 07:02 AM

I was completely underwhemed by CLady's play last night. He seemed to have horrible technique in pass blocking, and in run blocking didn't look dominant AT ALL.
Now, I didn't watch every snap, but quite a few in the second half.... and I just didn't see the hype at all.

Question about Woodson, that I've asked a couple of times...
Has anyone brought up his weird throwing motion (scout-wise)? He seems to have the slowest windup, with a weird hitch.

ILChief

11-24-2007, 07:10 AM

If Ellis is the BPA you pick him

and Brodie gets crushed and we run for 2 yards per carry

CupidStunt

11-24-2007, 07:17 AM

I was completely underwhemed by CLady's play last night. He seemed to have horrible technique in pass blocking, and in run blocking didn't look dominant AT ALL.
Now, I didn't watch every snap, but quite a few in the second half.... and I just didn't see the hype at all.

Not a good run-blocker at all. Never has been.

Definitely the main reason I like Oher and Loadholt - two mammoths who destroy people in the running game. Loadholt sometimes reminds me of Willie Roaf with the way he locks on to a DE and just DRIVES him out of a play.

Tribal Warfare

11-24-2007, 08:16 AM

and Brodie gets crushed and we run for 2 yards per carry

FA is for need, and never reach in the draft

HolmeZz

11-24-2007, 09:24 AM

Oher is extremely raw.

False. He's actually probably the most polished pass blocker in the country already. He has outstanding technique and quick feet. He's a hell of a lot more than just a big body.

Tribal Warfare

11-24-2007, 09:26 AM

False. He's actually probably the most polished pass blocker in the country already. He has outstanding technique and quick feet. He's a hell of a lot more than just a big body.

interesting, I would love to see how this kid plays though

HolmeZz

11-24-2007, 09:27 AM

You'd probably have to get gametape from somewhere because I'm almost certain Ole Miss' season is over.

You would've been impressed watching him against LSU. They were getting no pressure to the point where LSU just started dropping their end into coverage every play.

Demonpenz

11-24-2007, 09:29 AM

hopefully we get claddy~!

Tribal Warfare

11-24-2007, 10:09 AM

hopefully we get claddy~!

I wasn't impressed with Clady, but Brennan is a stud

Coogs

11-24-2007, 10:38 AM

I think the Chiefs need to somehow find 2 productive receivers in this draft without using a 1st or 2nd round pick on them....that's difficult but doable.

I was less than impressed with Clady as well last night. And I agree with this post too! Purify from Nebraska and Nelson from KSU would make 2 very nice 4th round draft picks. We do have 2 4ths this year don't we?

dj56dt58

11-24-2007, 10:48 AM

Oher is extremely raw and is only a junior. Other Juniors - Clady, Boone, Loadholt.
Bowe was raw too...

HolmeZz

11-24-2007, 10:49 AM

I wasn't impressed with Clady, but Brennan is a stud

Brennan's going to be nothing at the next level.

CupidStunt

11-24-2007, 10:49 AM

Bowe was raw too...

Bowe was actually quite a polished receiver. He just dropped the ball too much and sometimes had concentration issues, but that lessened after the eye surgery.

HolmeZz

11-24-2007, 10:51 AM

Bowe was raw too...

Only in terms of his hands. He was a great route runner in college.

Coogs

11-24-2007, 11:02 AM

Boston College's LT is supposed to be pretty good. They are on ESPN right now against Miami. He is the 7th rated Tackle by GBN...

Gosder Cherilus 6-6, 320 5.25 Boston College

Mr. Laz

11-24-2007, 11:04 AM

so who do you think will choose the offensive line we draft this year?

Chuck?
Herm?
Solari?

Tribal Warfare

11-24-2007, 11:07 AM

Brennan's going to be nothing at the next level.

The kid has the stuff

Coogs

11-24-2007, 11:07 AM

so who do you think will choose the offensive line we draft this year?

Chuck?
Herm?
Solari?

I vote for CP...

..... No not that CP....

ChiefsPlanet! :D

Mr. Laz

11-24-2007, 11:09 AM

Boston College's LT is supposed to be pretty good. They are on ESPN right now against Miami. He is the 7th rated Tackle by GBN...

Considering how high the Chiefs may pick they may be able to get a starting OT in the second round...

HolmeZz

11-24-2007, 11:18 AM

The kid has the stuff

No he doesn't. He just has the stats. He wouldn't be much of a prospect at all if he was playing in a pro-style offense in a big conference. Could you imagine him having to actually drop back from under center and read a defense? And there were only two routes in the pattern? It'd be ugly.

CupidStunt

11-24-2007, 11:19 AM

Cherilus doesn't look like a natural. He gets decent enough leverage in the running game but isn't dominating, and in the passing game he's very stiff. I don't think this kid is worth our top-15 pick.

HolmeZz

11-24-2007, 11:20 AM

Cherilus doesn't look like a natural. He gets decent enough leverage in the running game but isn't dominating, and in the passing game he's very stiff. I don't think this kid is worth our top-15 pick.

He's not. And I think he's much better suited for RT.

Mecca

11-24-2007, 11:22 AM

Well I guess we are back to Sam Baker then who actually has experience in a pro style offense against top notch competition.

HolmeZz

11-24-2007, 11:25 AM

Baker won't be worth taking as high as we'll likely be picking.

I know that's hard to believe if you're someone who doesn't watch anything other than USC football.

Mecca

11-24-2007, 11:26 AM

Baker won't be worth taking as high as we'll likely be picking.

I know that's hard to believe if you're someone who doesn't watch anything other than USC football.

I was being a bit sarcastic, I realize his injury this year has dropped him out of the top 10, unless he has some awesome workout.

I honestly might look at something other than Oline if it's a top 10 pick, at that pick and the depth they'll be starting OT's in the 2nd round.

CupidStunt

11-24-2007, 12:24 PM

We are "back to" Sam Baker? Because Cherilus and Clady are overrated? Perhaps true if this class didn't have so many other talents like Oher and even Loadholt, although my guess is that he'll need an insane offseason to get that far up (only due to lack of experience).

Mecca

11-24-2007, 12:32 PM

Did you not see my previous post where I admitted I wasn't being totally serious?

CupidStunt

11-24-2007, 12:34 PM

You're still a USC homer and would advocate Baker over most, I'm sure. If not, so be it - good on you.

Because he shouldn't be the pick. Not unless we trade down and he still somehow manages to be the BPA.

Mecca

11-24-2007, 12:35 PM

I'd take Ellis before I took Baker if I want to be a SC homer....

CupidStunt

11-24-2007, 12:52 PM

So would I. A hell of a lot before Baker, too.

Frankie

11-24-2007, 06:12 PM

and Brodie gets crushed and we run for 2 yards per carryBingo. There's time to pick BPA and a time to maneuver to pick for need. We need a f@#&ing LT badly. If the one available is not the BPA then try to trade the f@#& down and pick him up a couple of picks later. This is one of the biggest points of frustration with CP. He has no wheel'n'deal bone in him.

Tribal Warfare

11-24-2007, 07:52 PM

No he doesn't. He just has the stats. He wouldn't be much of a prospect at all if he was playing in a pro-style offense in a big conference.

Like Drew Brees?

HolmeZz

11-24-2007, 07:57 PM

Like Drew Brees?

They aren't remotely comparable, but Brees was an effective college player in a big conference. I was telling you Brennan wouldn't be.

Tribal Warfare

11-24-2007, 08:00 PM

They aren't remotely comparable, but Brees was an effective college player in a big conference. I was telling you Brennan wouldn't be.

Brennan, will be just watch, the kid makes the correct progressions and has great pinpoint laser accuracy.

HolmeZz

11-24-2007, 08:05 PM

Hey, I'm just trying to save you the embarrassment of looking silly. Brennan's not going to amount to anything at all at the next level. There's a reason why you don't see him being touted much by scouts.

milkman

11-24-2007, 09:33 PM

Drafting Defensive linemen is what has handicapped this franchise over the last 6-7 years.