>>51130679Honnestly Toronto is just one big suburb, like most north american cities except NYC, san francisco, boston etc.Your downtown is literally lifeless past 6pm when everyone's in their car commuting in traffic for hours to get back to their little home.Public transit is antrocious, worst than vancouver's.Nightlife is shitty, last call for booze in clubs is around 1-2am (lmao)the only good thing in this city is business

>>51131822Fuckin lelChicago actually has a decent public transit system you would expect from a world class city and has a far more rich architectural heritage than that shit conglomeration of post-modern abominations known as Toronto

>b-b-but niggers though!At least we won't be getting flooded with chinks and ragheads.

>>51132488The one thing that always kind of got me was how Australia ranks consistently the highest for livable cities. Now don't get me wrong, Australian cities are clean and modern as fuck, but it just seems like the cities "proper" are just filled with parking garages and stale office buildings and the cities outside of Melbourne aren't very walkable desu. The most livable cities I have every seen are probably German ones desu.

>>51132587>filled with parking garages and stale office buildingsThats more like American cities. The Central Business districts of our major cities are usually quite walkable and have plenty to do. Also, aside from Sydney they don't shut down at night because a lot of people actually live there as well.

>>51132582Yeah Melbourne was nice, if a bit too "ethnic" than what I was expecting for Australia. Perth and Brisbane were absolutely soulless and boring as fuck, but I wouldn't mind living because the cities had some nice green space though. Sydney was kind of a disappointment but I am glad I went though. Could use a better public transit system desu

>>51132653>public transportThats one of the main gripes I have about Sydney. It's because the rich nimbys blocked lots of railway developments back in the 70's/80's in the fear that it would attract poor people to their suburbs. Melbourne's geography is also much more conducive various sorts of public transport, so we've traditionally invested more into it.

>>51131822When most people think of Toronto, I am pretty sure that they just picture Chicago and replace the nice architecture with shit internationalist/post-modern stuff and erase a few million people. Also, remove history

>>51132734>M-m-muh indesirablesI agree this shit has got to end. Everywhere in America where there has been significant public transit investment young white professionals have moved in. Hopefully now that Abbot is gone and Turnbull is in, you will have significantly more transit investment.

>>51132854Yep, Melbourne is about to construct a new metro line and is also modernising the existing infrastructure to increase hourly carrying capacity. I'm also excited for next year; we'll be joining the few cities in the world to have 24/7 trains (and trams, buses etc). Quite impressive for a city of our size I think.

>>51131299>tfw I've only lived in dark green areas because I'm poor.Acutally, I don't even mind it. Some of the nicest people I've ever met were immigrant housemates. I've lived with recent immigrants from Iran, India, Saudia Ariabia, Jordan, China, Pakistan... but the worst housemates were all low-income white people.Last week my Iranian housemate made me eat a bunch of boiled turnips and drink lime-honey tea because I was sick. It didn't do anything, but it was a nice gesture.

>>51132854It's not just about blacks anymore, people will complain about anything nowadays.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1AbLu5EZLkIn order to run more commuter trains where I live, they need to expand the yard to fit more tracks, and even though the agency already owns the land, and it isn't developed at all, people are flipping their shit, and some politicians are trying to get them to stop. It's funny, because then they'll complain that there aren't enough trains. Thank god they're still going through with it, I'd be pissed if they didn't.

>>51133294I don't know the details beyond"There is no question that a GM-controlled entity called National City Lines did buy a number of municipal trolley car systems. And it's beyond doubt that, before too many years went by, those street car operations were closed down. It's also true that GM was convicted in a post-war trial of conspiring to monopolize the market for transportation equipment and supplies sold to local bus companies. "

Yes the GM streetcar buyup and sell-out happened but a lot of cities are coming back though.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_rail_in_the_United_States#List_of_light_rail_systems_operating_in_the_United_States34 cities in this list. Granted most of these systems aren't as large as Toronto's though.

If you value comfort above all else then yes, another Canadian city would be a reasonable substitute by your metric. This is enough to validate me. But OP's prompt was "greatest". This implies notions like alpha, world-consequence, long-term historical consequence - at least in the recent relevant (European) history of North America.

Our own red-staters may resent the admission, but New York is an obvious first choice. I would be interested to see head-to-head data between LA, Chicago, DC and Toronto.

Canada, you are my best friend, and I love you. But come on. It's 2015 brah

>>51133504>a failing businessThis type of thinking is why US cities are a mess. Having a streetcar line as opposed to a bus line adds a higher value to the area because they're more comfortable and classier modes of transport, imo.

>>51132818That's because Burlington is not part of the Toronto CMA. I don't fucking know why it's considered part of the GTA and not the CMA, you would have to ask whoever works at Statistics Canada that question

>>51134717I lived in Tampa, Florida in a suburb in the middle of nowhere. It was terrible and I wouldn't wish it on anybody the closest thing to me was a trailer park 6km away. It isn't too bad, I work a good amount of overtime, but it's because I want to not because I have to. The prices may seem high when you don't live here, but it isn't much if you have a decent job. I'm a package delivery man and I live in a nice neighborhood and don't have any debt.

>>51135017That's a long trip. I wish you luck, but word of advice starting out can be tough so look for roommates to share costs with before setting of on your own. Although that's just general advice for most expensive cities.

>Used to live in Toronto>Move to Montreal >All these fucking homeless people on St. Catherine from Atwater to Berri-UQAM

How the fuck did the homeless problem get so bad here? I'd see homeless people downtown in Toronto, but not as many as I see here. I like Montreal, but it's made me appreciate some things about Toronto.

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