HAHAHAHAHA! Bit off more than you can chew huh? What's so special about GotF? You guys attacked us when we had no relations. :P Domi just ain't strong enough to take on us and GotF at the same time. :P lol.

It's not about the amount of troops, it's about the amount of people attacking. which is 5, not 3. And I know what you're going to say, it's still only 5 vs 10 (or so). But it's not about that anyway. It's about you guys attacking us when we wern't at war and had no relations, and not careing at all. Then when one of you attacks GotF you're all like, Oh, sorry about that, please don't go to war with us. <3 lol. The only reason that I see you apologising is because yous know what if you start a war with GotF while you're still fighting us, there's a good chance that you'll lose. (with the numbers you have on Nirvana at the moment.) And I don't blame yous, I would do the same. But I know that if yous had more people on Nirvana then you'd be attacking GotF just like you did to us, not apologising to them. :P lol.

complaining about 5 k army that showed up later in the battle, and honestly it is not needed...

We dont need them.

and if you are now counting mustang as our forth attacker that is fine, he hasnt attack any cities or armies yet, it is clear who is doing the work.

I simply left some cities of yours to share with our mage, i killed your troops and he helped with magic, itis only fair that he gets rewarded, so stop complaining about having 5 people attacking you... it is rediculous.

In regards to nirvana all together, we have a NAP with RVL so we attacked the next top kgdm in nirvana, which was you guys. GoTF was rebuilding so we thought it is only honourably to not attack. We never had intentions to attack anyone else. After all we are not all mighty gods the 3 of us alone.

Rev screwed up and didnt follow orders, and as you can see 1 persons actions can screw the rest of the kgdm over. And if you think our plan is to finish you off then attack GoTF, then you are wrong... we have company to take care of..

I had talks to few good players in GoTF and they well know what our intentions are.... it is unfortunate something like this happened

So this is where the flaming went! I was wondering when it would happen! And mustang does count since he freezes all of our armies and we don't have a mage, unless you count me.... a dwarf lol.

You guys also caught us at an unstable time as we were in the middle of a broken up kingdom of the Leper Knights, and not everyone joined Psy from them, so we really did not have a core blocked off yet. And we were in Arma, I think Bart was expecting that Nirv would be safe since there were no threats of Kingdoms there that would attack us.

Saiyan posts that you didn't follow orders. No wonder you are one big fucking retard.

Seriously, please continue on what you are doing... as long as you are in the kingdom of an enemy, I will always feel assured that my kingdom has an immediate advantage over your kingdom. If you are in the kingdom of an ally, I will immediately pity that ally.... if we would ever ally that kingdom in the first place.

13:14:18 Jan 23rd 10 I
agree with Rev, it's completely retarded not to go after an already
hurt KD on the side to get some extra income, especially if you don't
know if they'll attack you when they recover.

Rev... i am disappointed. First of all, no, we have no relations, so when you took the first city it was not that bad, despite the fact our kingdoms were friendly and had agreed not to attack each other, an unwritten agreement is always most volatile. So when word reached us that this attack was unauthorised and you had been told to back down, we were pleased. It was a misunderstanding no harm done. Bongs took back his city.

It was the fact that after that despite being told not to, you went and took another city, a 90K mine this time. I expected you had just not yet looked at your messages, forum, etc... when you had gotten online. This time we were very annoyed but you got demoted and finally retreated so we were happy.

But most importantly it was that, then we realised you had wrecked the 90K mine that you took from our member! That is what really shows how underhand you really are. You need to understand that having no official relations does not mean you go around attacking kingdoms willy nilly, then disobey orders and attack again.

And to Black Mamba... yes it makes sense except for the reasons i just gave, plus the fact that yes, we were a hurt kingdom, but that was ages ago back when Domi entered Nirvana. We are strong again, so that argument does not fit.

Revenge, if you'd bother to actually check the Nirvana thread (the thread which you SHOULD check before you do ANYTHING on nirv, you'd see the unofficial relations we had with GOTF.

I can't allow a vice to make mistakes like that. If you don't like it, by all means leave the kingdom. You would have screwed over the whole Nirvana front with your 5K AM army. I personally am completely dependant of income I took from Psych. And so are SS and Belgrium. You endangered that all by attacking GOTF without ANY consult from anyone else.

Quit your bitching, you made a mistake and can not admit it. Quit your bitching or get the heck out of my kingdom.

Any more witty remarks from you that question my orders to you to apologise to GOTF will result in a kick. Making a mistake is one thing, not admitting it is another.

Unoffical Relations? Really.If your going to have unoffical relations, then at least post them in the RELATIONS thread.

Right?I checked that thread before I started attacking, and I didn't see GOTF, I rechecked twice to make sure.

Maybe I did make a mistake, but lets face it Lew, at one point or another you would have attacked them. We have our core getting infested by MAD/Fate, what harm is it to try and snap up some cities. Really

And if you kick me, I will be upset indeed. But over a thing like this its insane.And as you know already I was going to step down as Vice next era, due to inactivity.

Please don't blame me Lew for our KD's failings this era, you said I " Did it for some cities, like a solo player "Thats why I lost 32k AM's trying to protect Zero's 90k city right? I did all the work last era tactically and organising, as no one else did. You were inactive, Thom didn't do much, Evans didn't log on for days on end, Knish was a mage, Bran didn't do much

I DID 99% of the work, I didn't even get a thanks.

You guys then went and picked teams to assign, which I was trying to help with, but Thom was spamming the chan, everytime I started, I told you all we would need 80% of the KD on the Fate front, but na. Dont listen to Rev, right?I ended up leaving the chan after getting fucking pissed off, I come back to some hash teams thrown together. And look what happened, we got over run, because you didn't listenCheck your Mirc logs if you dont remember.

Btw Lew, I guess you were just looking for someone to blame for the era, Lucky me eh?

This is a Rev out, in total game wise after the era end most likely anyway, no time for the game, and if attacking a KD we have no relations with, gets this much drama and anger these days, I dont really want to be part of it anymore.The reason why I've stayed on these last 7-8~ eras is because of the people in the game rather than the game itself, IE : Lew,Bran,,Slave even fucking Osi, there I said it. The game sucks, and I dont even enjoy it anymore, and when shit like this happens I get pretty pissed off.

We dont want to attack cause if we are friendly to them then maybe next era they will repay the kindness with a NAP or CF when we need it most? Thats why you are kind to kingdoms that show no hostile intentions to you or your kingdom it gains you respect and makes it easier to get a NAP/CF in crucial times.

We dont want to attack cause if we are friendly to them then maybe next era they will repay the kindness with a NAP or CF when we need it most? Thats why you are kind to kingdoms that show no hostile intentions to you or your kingdom it gains you respect and makes it easier to get a NAP/CF in crucial times.

or try to kill them like you know, the friendly relations you had with FATE last era ;)

Wow, rev got demoted. I can understand being upset Lew however there is no reason for him to be demoted over it. I get along with Shmeh just great and when i was a Zerk Vice i did alot of IOU's. GotF being one of them ;p. However i wasnt looking for a Cf next era but just their respect. If a individual respects you that means your opinion carries weight and if it carries weight even in the face of demise you may choose it.

I felt Rev was a bad choice for a vice anyways, which was the #1 reason I never joined Dom and then stopped playing VU. Then again, if what Rev says is true, then I misjudged him and the blame goes entirely on Lew. Who knows? Being drunk and high makes you look at things from another perspective. :)

hey GoTF go ahead and take my 200k city that Dom has. I'd much rather see you have it than them. anyway, they are kicking our ass even if they are only 3 players or 5. whatever. we made foolish choices. lol

Don't care what any of the above posters think. What Rev says is true, we didn't have any official relations with GOTF. But that doesn't mean you can just randomly attack them, screwing over a few kingdommates.

Any Domination member posting in this thread, don't. Send me your "complaints" in PM.

I felt Rev was a bad choice for a vice anyways, which was the #1 reason I never joined Dom and then stopped playing VU. Then again, if what Rev says is true, then I misjudged him and the blame goes entirely on Lew. Who knows? Being drunk and high makes you look at things from another perspective. :)

You see, I was a pretty good vice imho. Just you had to be in the kingdom to realise it.But quite honestly, Im not putting the full blame on Lew, or blaming her.Im just quite annoyed I got yelled at and demoted for attacking a kingdom we had no offical relations with, especially as we have lost a chunk of our core due to Fate and MAD.

04:05:19 Jan 24th 10 Revenge, what you expect from post intra kd problems/discussion in public forum?

Your kingdom leadership never learns. This is not the first time Revenge has aired his kingdom's bad laundry in public, nor will it be the last time. Yet, you guys were still willing to accept him in, heck, you guys actually made him vice too! Sorry, I have no pity for Domination.... you guys have to learn things the hard way and eat a massive dose of reality.

About psy, although I like you guys and your logo is so colorful.. ummm, didn't you stand by when we were being over run by Revelation? I mean, that was kinda serious, we had 5 or 6 people die altogether there lol.

glad you notie our logo. We stayed out of the rev/gotf fight an didnt want to be seen as vultures who sweep down and take spoils. At the time Ithink we were fighting the leper knights.

anyway we weren't asked for assistance as far as I know.

I suggested gotf take my ex 200 city since one of you complained about the dom member raizing the town of yours they took. I am human and I can't see the pirate razing a 200 k town so I offered that but whatever...