Pac's discography is so huge I have not actaully heard every album from top to bottom. But nothing I've heard from Pac can lyrically compare to Illmatic, nor story-wise compare to songs like "I Gave You Power", "Undying Love", or "It Wasn't You".

The only Pac song I regard better than Nas is "96 Bonnie 'N Clyde" because of how well it tells his story and how it's completely metahporical. Yet, that song still kind of copies "I Gave you Power".

You haven't heard all of Pac's songs yet you still want to claim Nas is the best rapper? That's cool and all because it's your opinion but seriously, there ain't a rapper alive today that's anywhere near being as good as 2pac IMO nor will there ever be. The guy basically lived in the studio. He has sooo much unreleased stuff it's insane. One thing that sets him above everybody else is his flow. 2pac's voice had rhytym and it kept your attention. The emotion in his songs is expressed so well you truly feel what he's going through. It's almost impossible NOT to get attached to him. I can't say the same for Nas.

Well I've heard like at least 85% of Pac's stuff. Man, he's got like 500 songs, gimmie a break. Also I did say 2pac's emotion is way better than Nas'. And one of the strong criticizms is that Nas is a monotonous rapper. You're right that most of the time you can't get attached to Nas, but in songs I like Undying Love, and One Mic (The only song I can think of where he actually changes the tone of his voice, repeatedly) he really can outshine Pac. I'm not sayin every Nas song is better than Pac's, a lot of Pac's stuff is better than Nas. I just find a few Nas songs to outshine pac by a mile.

Also, Illmatic was better than any 2pac album. I don't mean better than all his songs, just album for album._________________"I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death."

Slipknot is the apidimy of all that is kick @$$ and don't correct my spelling if i spelled anything wrong \m/ \m/

Having one-dimensional music, cheesy vocals, and some crappy lyrics doesn't add up to kick "@$$".

you should listen to them their crappy lyrics and one-dimensional music will fit your one dimensional mind....this isn't a musical debate

If this isn't a debate, then why post your disagreement with us. Its our opinion. You have yours. Listen to what you are telling yourself first.

i don't believe i ever said i disagreed with you i just said they are the apidimy of all that is kick as... i never said anything to contridict your opinion _________________Fallen is that of justice... only chaos remains

Slipknot is the apidimy of all that is kick @$$ and don't correct my spelling if i spelled anything wrong \m/ \m/

Having one-dimensional music, cheesy vocals, and some crappy lyrics doesn't add up to kick "@$$".

you should listen to them their crappy lyrics and one-dimensional music will fit your one dimensional mind....this isn't a musical debate

If this isn't a debate, then why post your disagreement with us. Its our opinion. You have yours. Listen to what you are telling yourself first.

i don't believe i ever said i disagreed with you i just said they are the apidimy of all that is kick as... i never said anything to contridict your opinion

A debate is based off of peoples disagreements the last time I checked and you said there is no reason for a musical debate which would consist of your disagreement and mine!!! I can make it more technical if you want. _________________

ive downloaded 7 of pantera's albums, and so why do all the songs sound the same?? they seriously need to interchange guitar cords, its more refreshing that way.

(disturbed is probably the best band of all time, check them out.)

[Note: Most of what follows is opinion. This means it will be disagreed with by some.]

Ok. First off: Pantera only has 5 original albums (unless you count the ones they did before they recruited Phil Anselmo). The other cds are a live performance and a greatest hits. Secondly, and don't take this the wrong way, do you play guitar? Have you ever looked at the actual structure of the playing that Dimebag did? I do and I have, and I can tell you now, its not AC/DC where there are only the same 3 chords on every single song. He uses the entire fretboard and changes up alot. One of the (arguably) top 5 guitar players for the past 30 years and everything he does sounds the same? Nope, don't think so. It's a tragedy he was murdered by that lunatic. Music lost one of its true sons on that day.

As for Disturbed, I've got their 3 cds and they are ok. I couldn't possibly call them the best band of all time (that would probably be Led Zepplin in my opinion). I'm more into metal anyway, and Disturbed feels more like rock to me. The vocals are good, and the rest is alright, but it isn't my favorite.

Slipknot: Well................. its better than Korn. I've got to give them that much.

On a closing note, I'd like to quote one of my favorite lyrics. "Music of rebellion makes you wanna rage But it's made by millionaires who are really twice your age" Porcupine Tree

Slipknot is the apidimy of all that is kick @$$ and don't correct my spelling if i spelled anything wrong \m/ \m/

Having one-dimensional music, cheesy vocals, and some crappy lyrics doesn't add up to kick "@$$".

you should listen to them their crappy lyrics and one-dimensional music will fit your one dimensional mind....this isn't a musical debate

If this isn't a debate, then why post your disagreement with us. Its our opinion. You have yours. Listen to what you are telling yourself first.

i don't believe i ever said i disagreed with you i just said they are the apidimy of all that is kick as... i never said anything to contridict your opinion

A debate is based off of peoples disagreements the last time I checked and you said there is no reason for a musical debate which would consist of your disagreement and mine!!! I can make it more technical if you want.

yeah im sorry for that i suppose your right i respect your opinion and i have mine so can we get back on topic like everyone else is doing_________________Fallen is that of justice... only chaos remains