Bodin backs axed Robins youngsters to still shine

PAUL Bodin has backed four of the young players he nurtured through the Swindon Town academy to find opportunities elsewhere following their release from the club.

Aaron Oakley, Leigh Bedwell, Mark Francis and Alex Ferguson were all told recently that they were surplus to requirements at the County Ground and the quartet are now free to find new clubs over the summer.

Bodin knows all of them well, having worked with them from a tender age, and he is confident they have the determination not to allow this blow to be terminal for their careers.

“I’ve read a couple of tweets from the boys,” he told the Advertiser. “Aaron and Bedders have been at the club 10 and 11 years respectively and that’s a massive part of their lives. They’re 20-year-old lads and for half their lives they’ve been associated with and supported Swindon Town.

“It’s devastating when it happens but they’ve got to believe in their ability and hope they get an opportunity. Bedders had his illness last year and Aaron was out for 10 months with his foot problem, so it’s very difficult but things are tight at football clubs. Budgets have to be met and perhaps if they have a regular under 21 game they could have progressed a little more, they may have been registered by the first team.

“It happens throughout football and it’s the hardest part. It’s the worst part of the job but you’ve got to look at the overall picture and if they feel they’re not quite ready to go into the first team that’s their decision. It’s not nice but you just hope they bounce back.

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“They could drop into the second division or the Conference and maybe there’ll be an opportunity for them. Obviously Franno and Fergie didn’t get a first-team chance, they were out on loan quite a bit, and anyone who doesn’t get an opportunity will say ‘I was never really given a real chance’.

“They’ve got to go out and find themselves another opportunity.”

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It's not the end of the road for them it's just a change of direction. Over my working life I've had a few set backs, but looking back they have helped me gain experience and I learned to move on often to better things. These guys need to do the same, look forward and work hard and it will work out OK. Good luck to them all.

It's not the end of the road for them it's just a change of direction.
Over my working life I've had a few set backs, but looking back they have helped me gain experience and I learned to move on often to better things. These guys need to do the same, look forward and work hard and it will work out OK.
Good luck to them all.Rgbargee

It's not the end of the road for them it's just a change of direction. Over my working life I've had a few set backs, but looking back they have helped me gain experience and I learned to move on often to better things. These guys need to do the same, look forward and work hard and it will work out OK. Good luck to them all.

Score: 6

Morsey says...9:08am Fri 16 May 14

Could always get a job at Nationwide and play part-time for Swindon Supermarine FC and help move Swindon's second highest level team to rise up the leagues?

Could always get a job at Nationwide and play part-time for Swindon Supermarine FC and help move Swindon's second highest level team to rise up the leagues?Morsey

Could always get a job at Nationwide and play part-time for Swindon Supermarine FC and help move Swindon's second highest level team to rise up the leagues?

Score: 2

London Red says...10:34am Fri 16 May 14

I don't buy all this "never given a chance" stuff - we hear it all the time with Storey for example . Players need to make and take their chance and clearly the ones who "never get a chance" are not doing that . Managers view players in Training, Development games and out on Loan and players have to show in them they deserve a shot at starting or coming on from the bench . Then when they get that shot they have to take it and deliver . Kasim and Louis were not seen as starters at the start of the campaign as the trio was going to be Luongo, Harley and Mason - but those 2 took their chance when they came and became regulars . You hear about these kids going out on loan and going to teams way down the pryamid yet not one really made an impact to make you think wow thery need to come back and play for us . Defore for example dropped from Prem to L1 and scored a record 12 in 12 - making his parent club take notice . Same as Pritchard with us and he got an appearance in the Premiership because of it . Have our players gone out and banged them in or shone if not strikers? . The answer is no! Thus Randell at 17 gets a game above them! . As said - that doesn't mean their careers are over - they just need to go and find the right level and start to build from there - they simply may be late developers and make it still (Mustapha Carayol is now Championship despite being released by us and Austin is another after leaving Reading) or they may just not be that good!

I don't buy all this "never given a chance" stuff - we hear it all the time with Storey for example
.
Players need to make and take their chance and clearly the ones who "never get a chance" are not doing that
.
Managers view players in Training, Development games and out on Loan and players have to show in them they deserve a shot at starting or coming on from the bench
.
Then when they get that shot they have to take it and deliver
.
Kasim and Louis were not seen as starters at the start of the campaign as the trio was going to be Luongo, Harley and Mason - but those 2 took their chance when they came and became regulars
.
You hear about these kids going out on loan and going to teams way down the pryamid yet not one really made an impact to make you think wow thery need to come back and play for us
.
Defore for example dropped from Prem to L1 and scored a record 12 in 12 - making his parent club take notice
.
Same as Pritchard with us and he got an appearance in the Premiership because of it
.
Have our players gone out and banged them in or shone if not strikers?
.
The answer is no! Thus Randell at 17 gets a game above them!
.
As said - that doesn't mean their careers are over - they just need to go and find the right level and start to build from there - they simply may be late developers and make it still (Mustapha Carayol is now Championship despite being released by us and Austin is another after leaving Reading) or they may just not be that good!London Red

I don't buy all this "never given a chance" stuff - we hear it all the time with Storey for example . Players need to make and take their chance and clearly the ones who "never get a chance" are not doing that . Managers view players in Training, Development games and out on Loan and players have to show in them they deserve a shot at starting or coming on from the bench . Then when they get that shot they have to take it and deliver . Kasim and Louis were not seen as starters at the start of the campaign as the trio was going to be Luongo, Harley and Mason - but those 2 took their chance when they came and became regulars . You hear about these kids going out on loan and going to teams way down the pryamid yet not one really made an impact to make you think wow thery need to come back and play for us . Defore for example dropped from Prem to L1 and scored a record 12 in 12 - making his parent club take notice . Same as Pritchard with us and he got an appearance in the Premiership because of it . Have our players gone out and banged them in or shone if not strikers? . The answer is no! Thus Randell at 17 gets a game above them! . As said - that doesn't mean their careers are over - they just need to go and find the right level and start to build from there - they simply may be late developers and make it still (Mustapha Carayol is now Championship despite being released by us and Austin is another after leaving Reading) or they may just not be that good!

Score: 3

Paul12001 says...12:09pm Fri 16 May 14

Kayden went out on loan and scored goals at Supermarine and Oxford City

Kayden went out on loan and scored goals at Supermarine and Oxford CityPaul12001

Kayden went out on loan and scored goals at Supermarine and Oxford City

Score: 0

welshred66 says...12:30pm Fri 16 May 14

London Red wrote…

I don't buy all this "never given a chance" stuff - we hear it all the time with Storey for example . Players need to make and take their chance and clearly the ones who "never get a chance" are not doing that . Managers view players in Training, Development games and out on Loan and players have to show in them they deserve a shot at starting or coming on from the bench . Then when they get that shot they have to take it and deliver . Kasim and Louis were not seen as starters at the start of the campaign as the trio was going to be Luongo, Harley and Mason - but those 2 took their chance when they came and became regulars . You hear about these kids going out on loan and going to teams way down the pryamid yet not one really made an impact to make you think wow thery need to come back and play for us . Defore for example dropped from Prem to L1 and scored a record 12 in 12 - making his parent club take notice . Same as Pritchard with us and he got an appearance in the Premiership because of it . Have our players gone out and banged them in or shone if not strikers? . The answer is no! Thus Randell at 17 gets a game above them! . As said - that doesn't mean their careers are over - they just need to go and find the right level and start to build from there - they simply may be late developers and make it still (Mustapha Carayol is now Championship despite being released by us and Austin is another after leaving Reading) or they may just not be that good!

What about those injured like Oakley? On the bench for PDC 6 times. Recurring injury due to lack of proper treatment first time round. Wales U21 at age of 17. With the club since 8 years old. Not even given a thank you run out last game of season where we were playing for nothing and knowing these boys were leaving would have put them in the limelight for future prospective clubs and fulfilled their dream of playing for a club they love! That goes for the others as well! That is not because they lower standard than their well paid expensive teamates. Lets be honest and say it how it is. Cooper was just more interested in buying in talent already established from Spurs! Thought it would get Swindon promoted but to be honest the home grown talent would have done more! They would have had passion for the club they have been with since kids! Louis and Miles have proved that! Bad, bad decision to let them go and no wonder our home international sides struggle when talent being blocked at all quarters by managers out to earn themselves a new job with a bigger club! Bring back PB! He new talent when he saw it and tried to give them a chance!

[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote:
I don't buy all this "never given a chance" stuff - we hear it all the time with Storey for example
.
Players need to make and take their chance and clearly the ones who "never get a chance" are not doing that
.
Managers view players in Training, Development games and out on Loan and players have to show in them they deserve a shot at starting or coming on from the bench
.
Then when they get that shot they have to take it and deliver
.
Kasim and Louis were not seen as starters at the start of the campaign as the trio was going to be Luongo, Harley and Mason - but those 2 took their chance when they came and became regulars
.
You hear about these kids going out on loan and going to teams way down the pryamid yet not one really made an impact to make you think wow thery need to come back and play for us
.
Defore for example dropped from Prem to L1 and scored a record 12 in 12 - making his parent club take notice
.
Same as Pritchard with us and he got an appearance in the Premiership because of it
.
Have our players gone out and banged them in or shone if not strikers?
.
The answer is no! Thus Randell at 17 gets a game above them!
.
As said - that doesn't mean their careers are over - they just need to go and find the right level and start to build from there - they simply may be late developers and make it still (Mustapha Carayol is now Championship despite being released by us and Austin is another after leaving Reading) or they may just not be that good![/p][/quote]What about those injured like Oakley? On the bench for PDC 6 times. Recurring injury due to lack of proper treatment first time round. Wales U21 at age of 17. With the club since 8 years old. Not even given a thank you run out last game of season where we were playing for nothing and knowing these boys were leaving would have put them in the limelight for future prospective clubs and fulfilled their dream of playing for a club they love! That goes for the others as well! That is not because they lower standard than their well paid expensive teamates. Lets be honest and say it how it is. Cooper was just more interested in buying in talent already established from Spurs! Thought it would get Swindon promoted but to be honest the home grown talent would have done more! They would have had passion for the club they have been with since kids! Louis and Miles have proved that! Bad, bad decision to let them go and no wonder our home international sides struggle when talent being blocked at all quarters by managers out to earn themselves a new job with a bigger club! Bring back PB! He new talent when he saw it and tried to give them a chance!welshred66

London Red wrote…

I don't buy all this "never given a chance" stuff - we hear it all the time with Storey for example . Players need to make and take their chance and clearly the ones who "never get a chance" are not doing that . Managers view players in Training, Development games and out on Loan and players have to show in them they deserve a shot at starting or coming on from the bench . Then when they get that shot they have to take it and deliver . Kasim and Louis were not seen as starters at the start of the campaign as the trio was going to be Luongo, Harley and Mason - but those 2 took their chance when they came and became regulars . You hear about these kids going out on loan and going to teams way down the pryamid yet not one really made an impact to make you think wow thery need to come back and play for us . Defore for example dropped from Prem to L1 and scored a record 12 in 12 - making his parent club take notice . Same as Pritchard with us and he got an appearance in the Premiership because of it . Have our players gone out and banged them in or shone if not strikers? . The answer is no! Thus Randell at 17 gets a game above them! . As said - that doesn't mean their careers are over - they just need to go and find the right level and start to build from there - they simply may be late developers and make it still (Mustapha Carayol is now Championship despite being released by us and Austin is another after leaving Reading) or they may just not be that good!

What about those injured like Oakley? On the bench for PDC 6 times. Recurring injury due to lack of proper treatment first time round. Wales U21 at age of 17. With the club since 8 years old. Not even given a thank you run out last game of season where we were playing for nothing and knowing these boys were leaving would have put them in the limelight for future prospective clubs and fulfilled their dream of playing for a club they love! That goes for the others as well! That is not because they lower standard than their well paid expensive teamates. Lets be honest and say it how it is. Cooper was just more interested in buying in talent already established from Spurs! Thought it would get Swindon promoted but to be honest the home grown talent would have done more! They would have had passion for the club they have been with since kids! Louis and Miles have proved that! Bad, bad decision to let them go and no wonder our home international sides struggle when talent being blocked at all quarters by managers out to earn themselves a new job with a bigger club! Bring back PB! He new talent when he saw it and tried to give them a chance!

Score: -2

Helpme234 says...12:32pm Fri 16 May 14

No problem at all with Bodin (or his comments) but why are we getting quotes from him? Is it that there is nobody actually employed by or currently associated with the club available to talk to?

No problem at all with Bodin (or his comments) but why are we getting quotes from him? Is it that there is nobody actually employed by or currently associated with the club available to talk to?Helpme234

No problem at all with Bodin (or his comments) but why are we getting quotes from him? Is it that there is nobody actually employed by or currently associated with the club available to talk to?

Score: 3

SALTASHRED says...1:09pm Fri 16 May 14

welshred66 wrote…

London Red wrote…

I don't buy all this "never given a chance" stuff - we hear it all the time with Storey for example . Players need to make and take their chance and clearly the ones who "never get a chance" are not doing that . Managers view players in Training, Development games and out on Loan and players have to show in them they deserve a shot at starting or coming on from the bench . Then when they get that shot they have to take it and deliver . Kasim and Louis were not seen as starters at the start of the campaign as the trio was going to be Luongo, Harley and Mason - but those 2 took their chance when they came and became regulars . You hear about these kids going out on loan and going to teams way down the pryamid yet not one really made an impact to make you think wow thery need to come back and play for us . Defore for example dropped from Prem to L1 and scored a record 12 in 12 - making his parent club take notice . Same as Pritchard with us and he got an appearance in the Premiership because of it . Have our players gone out and banged them in or shone if not strikers? . The answer is no! Thus Randell at 17 gets a game above them! . As said - that doesn't mean their careers are over - they just need to go and find the right level and start to build from there - they simply may be late developers and make it still (Mustapha Carayol is now Championship despite being released by us and Austin is another after leaving Reading) or they may just not be that good!

What about those injured like Oakley? On the bench for PDC 6 times. Recurring injury due to lack of proper treatment first time round. Wales U21 at age of 17. With the club since 8 years old. Not even given a thank you run out last game of season where we were playing for nothing and knowing these boys were leaving would have put them in the limelight for future prospective clubs and fulfilled their dream of playing for a club they love! That goes for the others as well! That is not because they lower standard than their well paid expensive teamates. Lets be honest and say it how it is. Cooper was just more interested in buying in talent already established from Spurs! Thought it would get Swindon promoted but to be honest the home grown talent would have done more! They would have had passion for the club they have been with since kids! Louis and Miles have proved that! Bad, bad decision to let them go and no wonder our home international sides struggle when talent being blocked at all quarters by managers out to earn themselves a new job with a bigger club! Bring back PB! He new talent when he saw it and tried to give them a chance!

I agree surely we need to have a proper reserve side playing week in week out so are younger players and those not getting first team games or coming back from injuries get a run out, these development games are a waste of time and energy. Good luck to the players released i'm sure another team will benefit from are mistake.

[quote][p][bold]welshred66[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote:
I don't buy all this "never given a chance" stuff - we hear it all the time with Storey for example
.
Players need to make and take their chance and clearly the ones who "never get a chance" are not doing that
.
Managers view players in Training, Development games and out on Loan and players have to show in them they deserve a shot at starting or coming on from the bench
.
Then when they get that shot they have to take it and deliver
.
Kasim and Louis were not seen as starters at the start of the campaign as the trio was going to be Luongo, Harley and Mason - but those 2 took their chance when they came and became regulars
.
You hear about these kids going out on loan and going to teams way down the pryamid yet not one really made an impact to make you think wow thery need to come back and play for us
.
Defore for example dropped from Prem to L1 and scored a record 12 in 12 - making his parent club take notice
.
Same as Pritchard with us and he got an appearance in the Premiership because of it
.
Have our players gone out and banged them in or shone if not strikers?
.
The answer is no! Thus Randell at 17 gets a game above them!
.
As said - that doesn't mean their careers are over - they just need to go and find the right level and start to build from there - they simply may be late developers and make it still (Mustapha Carayol is now Championship despite being released by us and Austin is another after leaving Reading) or they may just not be that good![/p][/quote]What about those injured like Oakley? On the bench for PDC 6 times. Recurring injury due to lack of proper treatment first time round. Wales U21 at age of 17. With the club since 8 years old. Not even given a thank you run out last game of season where we were playing for nothing and knowing these boys were leaving would have put them in the limelight for future prospective clubs and fulfilled their dream of playing for a club they love! That goes for the others as well! That is not because they lower standard than their well paid expensive teamates. Lets be honest and say it how it is. Cooper was just more interested in buying in talent already established from Spurs! Thought it would get Swindon promoted but to be honest the home grown talent would have done more! They would have had passion for the club they have been with since kids! Louis and Miles have proved that! Bad, bad decision to let them go and no wonder our home international sides struggle when talent being blocked at all quarters by managers out to earn themselves a new job with a bigger club! Bring back PB! He new talent when he saw it and tried to give them a chance![/p][/quote]I agree surely we need to have a proper reserve side playing week in week out so are younger players and those not getting first team games or coming back from injuries get a run out, these development games are a waste of time and energy. Good luck to the players released i'm sure another team will benefit from are mistake.SALTASHRED

welshred66 wrote…

London Red wrote…

I don't buy all this "never given a chance" stuff - we hear it all the time with Storey for example . Players need to make and take their chance and clearly the ones who "never get a chance" are not doing that . Managers view players in Training, Development games and out on Loan and players have to show in them they deserve a shot at starting or coming on from the bench . Then when they get that shot they have to take it and deliver . Kasim and Louis were not seen as starters at the start of the campaign as the trio was going to be Luongo, Harley and Mason - but those 2 took their chance when they came and became regulars . You hear about these kids going out on loan and going to teams way down the pryamid yet not one really made an impact to make you think wow thery need to come back and play for us . Defore for example dropped from Prem to L1 and scored a record 12 in 12 - making his parent club take notice . Same as Pritchard with us and he got an appearance in the Premiership because of it . Have our players gone out and banged them in or shone if not strikers? . The answer is no! Thus Randell at 17 gets a game above them! . As said - that doesn't mean their careers are over - they just need to go and find the right level and start to build from there - they simply may be late developers and make it still (Mustapha Carayol is now Championship despite being released by us and Austin is another after leaving Reading) or they may just not be that good!

What about those injured like Oakley? On the bench for PDC 6 times. Recurring injury due to lack of proper treatment first time round. Wales U21 at age of 17. With the club since 8 years old. Not even given a thank you run out last game of season where we were playing for nothing and knowing these boys were leaving would have put them in the limelight for future prospective clubs and fulfilled their dream of playing for a club they love! That goes for the others as well! That is not because they lower standard than their well paid expensive teamates. Lets be honest and say it how it is. Cooper was just more interested in buying in talent already established from Spurs! Thought it would get Swindon promoted but to be honest the home grown talent would have done more! They would have had passion for the club they have been with since kids! Louis and Miles have proved that! Bad, bad decision to let them go and no wonder our home international sides struggle when talent being blocked at all quarters by managers out to earn themselves a new job with a bigger club! Bring back PB! He new talent when he saw it and tried to give them a chance!

I agree surely we need to have a proper reserve side playing week in week out so are younger players and those not getting first team games or coming back from injuries get a run out, these development games are a waste of time and energy. Good luck to the players released i'm sure another team will benefit from are mistake.

Score: 3

London Red says...3:18pm Fri 16 May 14

SALTASHRED wrote…

welshred66 wrote…

London Red wrote…

I don't buy all this "never given a chance" stuff - we hear it all the time with Storey for example . Players need to make and take their chance and clearly the ones who "never get a chance" are not doing that . Managers view players in Training, Development games and out on Loan and players have to show in them they deserve a shot at starting or coming on from the bench . Then when they get that shot they have to take it and deliver . Kasim and Louis were not seen as starters at the start of the campaign as the trio was going to be Luongo, Harley and Mason - but those 2 took their chance when they came and became regulars . You hear about these kids going out on loan and going to teams way down the pryamid yet not one really made an impact to make you think wow thery need to come back and play for us . Defore for example dropped from Prem to L1 and scored a record 12 in 12 - making his parent club take notice . Same as Pritchard with us and he got an appearance in the Premiership because of it . Have our players gone out and banged them in or shone if not strikers? . The answer is no! Thus Randell at 17 gets a game above them! . As said - that doesn't mean their careers are over - they just need to go and find the right level and start to build from there - they simply may be late developers and make it still (Mustapha Carayol is now Championship despite being released by us and Austin is another after leaving Reading) or they may just not be that good!

What about those injured like Oakley? On the bench for PDC 6 times. Recurring injury due to lack of proper treatment first time round. Wales U21 at age of 17. With the club since 8 years old. Not even given a thank you run out last game of season where we were playing for nothing and knowing these boys were leaving would have put them in the limelight for future prospective clubs and fulfilled their dream of playing for a club they love! That goes for the others as well! That is not because they lower standard than their well paid expensive teamates. Lets be honest and say it how it is. Cooper was just more interested in buying in talent already established from Spurs! Thought it would get Swindon promoted but to be honest the home grown talent would have done more! They would have had passion for the club they have been with since kids! Louis and Miles have proved that! Bad, bad decision to let them go and no wonder our home international sides struggle when talent being blocked at all quarters by managers out to earn themselves a new job with a bigger club! Bring back PB! He new talent when he saw it and tried to give them a chance!

I agree surely we need to have a proper reserve side playing week in week out so are younger players and those not getting first team games or coming back from injuries get a run out, these development games are a waste of time and energy. Good luck to the players released i'm sure another team will benefit from are mistake.

We are a professional football club and not a charity! . If we had fielded a team of XI youths for nostalgia or putting players to be released in the shop window against Rotherham and got totally battered - there would have been uproar! . I would not have been happy paying £25 to watch that! . Plus we would have been investigated by the FL . Reality is we had no Spurs loanees involved at all in that game - and gave chances to plenty of our own youths - Waldon started as did Louis and Randell and Jones came on! . Also we tried a few others who were on the fringes to see if they were worthy of a deal - Barthram, Branco, Gladwin all started alongside Waldon and Louis and Barker also came on alongside Randell and Jones . Maybe Oakley's injury did hinder him this year - and if that is the case and he is over it - then he will have no problem getting a new club and rising up the football ladder! . Also lets not forget we gave Da Costa a deal due to the fact he was injured and they wanted to have a proper look at him! . I'm sorry but there is no way STFC would have finished higher had we not had the likes of Pritchard and Stephens playing for us - who clearly are a cut above Ferguson and Oakley! . Yes a reserve team would be better for all - but who would they play against? . That is why we dispanded ours as the reserve league basically disappeared as so many clubs no longer could afford squads to field one . We clearly said we stopped it as it did our fringe players no good to play against 15 year old boys! . Also so few teams were in the league they were monthly games anyway!

[quote][p][bold]SALTASHRED[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]welshred66[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: I don't buy all this "never given a chance" stuff - we hear it all the time with Storey for example . Players need to make and take their chance and clearly the ones who "never get a chance" are not doing that . Managers view players in Training, Development games and out on Loan and players have to show in them they deserve a shot at starting or coming on from the bench . Then when they get that shot they have to take it and deliver . Kasim and Louis were not seen as starters at the start of the campaign as the trio was going to be Luongo, Harley and Mason - but those 2 took their chance when they came and became regulars . You hear about these kids going out on loan and going to teams way down the pryamid yet not one really made an impact to make you think wow thery need to come back and play for us . Defore for example dropped from Prem to L1 and scored a record 12 in 12 - making his parent club take notice . Same as Pritchard with us and he got an appearance in the Premiership because of it . Have our players gone out and banged them in or shone if not strikers? . The answer is no! Thus Randell at 17 gets a game above them! . As said - that doesn't mean their careers are over - they just need to go and find the right level and start to build from there - they simply may be late developers and make it still (Mustapha Carayol is now Championship despite being released by us and Austin is another after leaving Reading) or they may just not be that good![/p][/quote]What about those injured like Oakley? On the bench for PDC 6 times. Recurring injury due to lack of proper treatment first time round. Wales U21 at age of 17. With the club since 8 years old. Not even given a thank you run out last game of season where we were playing for nothing and knowing these boys were leaving would have put them in the limelight for future prospective clubs and fulfilled their dream of playing for a club they love! That goes for the others as well! That is not because they lower standard than their well paid expensive teamates. Lets be honest and say it how it is. Cooper was just more interested in buying in talent already established from Spurs! Thought it would get Swindon promoted but to be honest the home grown talent would have done more! They would have had passion for the club they have been with since kids! Louis and Miles have proved that! Bad, bad decision to let them go and no wonder our home international sides struggle when talent being blocked at all quarters by managers out to earn themselves a new job with a bigger club! Bring back PB! He new talent when he saw it and tried to give them a chance![/p][/quote]I agree surely we need to have a proper reserve side playing week in week out so are younger players and those not getting first team games or coming back from injuries get a run out, these development games are a waste of time and energy. Good luck to the players released i'm sure another team will benefit from are mistake.[/p][/quote]We are a professional football club and not a charity!
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If we had fielded a team of XI youths for nostalgia or putting players to be released in the shop window against Rotherham and got totally battered - there would have been uproar!
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I would not have been happy paying £25 to watch that!
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Plus we would have been investigated by the FL
.
Reality is we had no Spurs loanees involved at all in that game - and gave chances to plenty of our own youths - Waldon started as did Louis and Randell and Jones came on!
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Also we tried a few others who were on the fringes to see if they were worthy of a deal - Barthram, Branco, Gladwin all started alongside Waldon and Louis and Barker also came on alongside Randell and Jones
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Maybe Oakley's injury did hinder him this year - and if that is the case and he is over it - then he will have no problem getting a new club and rising up the football ladder!
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Also lets not forget we gave Da Costa a deal due to the fact he was injured and they wanted to have a proper look at him!
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I'm sorry but there is no way STFC would have finished higher had we not had the likes of Pritchard and Stephens playing for us - who clearly are a cut above Ferguson and Oakley!
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Yes a reserve team would be better for all - but who would they play against?
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That is why we dispanded ours as the reserve league basically disappeared as so many clubs no longer could afford squads to field one
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We clearly said we stopped it as it did our fringe players no good to play against 15 year old boys!
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Also so few teams were in the league they were monthly games anyway!London Red

SALTASHRED wrote…

welshred66 wrote…

London Red wrote…

I don't buy all this "never given a chance" stuff - we hear it all the time with Storey for example . Players need to make and take their chance and clearly the ones who "never get a chance" are not doing that . Managers view players in Training, Development games and out on Loan and players have to show in them they deserve a shot at starting or coming on from the bench . Then when they get that shot they have to take it and deliver . Kasim and Louis were not seen as starters at the start of the campaign as the trio was going to be Luongo, Harley and Mason - but those 2 took their chance when they came and became regulars . You hear about these kids going out on loan and going to teams way down the pryamid yet not one really made an impact to make you think wow thery need to come back and play for us . Defore for example dropped from Prem to L1 and scored a record 12 in 12 - making his parent club take notice . Same as Pritchard with us and he got an appearance in the Premiership because of it . Have our players gone out and banged them in or shone if not strikers? . The answer is no! Thus Randell at 17 gets a game above them! . As said - that doesn't mean their careers are over - they just need to go and find the right level and start to build from there - they simply may be late developers and make it still (Mustapha Carayol is now Championship despite being released by us and Austin is another after leaving Reading) or they may just not be that good!

What about those injured like Oakley? On the bench for PDC 6 times. Recurring injury due to lack of proper treatment first time round. Wales U21 at age of 17. With the club since 8 years old. Not even given a thank you run out last game of season where we were playing for nothing and knowing these boys were leaving would have put them in the limelight for future prospective clubs and fulfilled their dream of playing for a club they love! That goes for the others as well! That is not because they lower standard than their well paid expensive teamates. Lets be honest and say it how it is. Cooper was just more interested in buying in talent already established from Spurs! Thought it would get Swindon promoted but to be honest the home grown talent would have done more! They would have had passion for the club they have been with since kids! Louis and Miles have proved that! Bad, bad decision to let them go and no wonder our home international sides struggle when talent being blocked at all quarters by managers out to earn themselves a new job with a bigger club! Bring back PB! He new talent when he saw it and tried to give them a chance!

I agree surely we need to have a proper reserve side playing week in week out so are younger players and those not getting first team games or coming back from injuries get a run out, these development games are a waste of time and energy. Good luck to the players released i'm sure another team will benefit from are mistake.

We are a professional football club and not a charity! . If we had fielded a team of XI youths for nostalgia or putting players to be released in the shop window against Rotherham and got totally battered - there would have been uproar! . I would not have been happy paying £25 to watch that! . Plus we would have been investigated by the FL . Reality is we had no Spurs loanees involved at all in that game - and gave chances to plenty of our own youths - Waldon started as did Louis and Randell and Jones came on! . Also we tried a few others who were on the fringes to see if they were worthy of a deal - Barthram, Branco, Gladwin all started alongside Waldon and Louis and Barker also came on alongside Randell and Jones . Maybe Oakley's injury did hinder him this year - and if that is the case and he is over it - then he will have no problem getting a new club and rising up the football ladder! . Also lets not forget we gave Da Costa a deal due to the fact he was injured and they wanted to have a proper look at him! . I'm sorry but there is no way STFC would have finished higher had we not had the likes of Pritchard and Stephens playing for us - who clearly are a cut above Ferguson and Oakley! . Yes a reserve team would be better for all - but who would they play against? . That is why we dispanded ours as the reserve league basically disappeared as so many clubs no longer could afford squads to field one . We clearly said we stopped it as it did our fringe players no good to play against 15 year old boys! . Also so few teams were in the league they were monthly games anyway!

Score: 7

London Red says...3:21pm Fri 16 May 14

Paul12001 wrote…

Kayden went out on loan and scored goals at Supermarine and Oxford City

True - but obviously he did not do enough to make our managment think he could replicate that in L1 . The true state of our released stars will be seen when they hook up with new clubs . So far only Mustapha Caroyol has gone on to be higher upo than us - and that was after a good few years and Maccesfield and Rovers . I doubt any of the current lot will even end up in L2 next season!

[quote][p][bold]Paul12001[/bold] wrote:
Kayden went out on loan and scored goals at Supermarine and Oxford City[/p][/quote]True - but obviously he did not do enough to make our managment think he could replicate that in L1
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The true state of our released stars will be seen when they hook up with new clubs
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So far only Mustapha Caroyol has gone on to be higher upo than us - and that was after a good few years and Maccesfield and Rovers
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I doubt any of the current lot will even end up in L2 next season!London Red

Paul12001 wrote…

Kayden went out on loan and scored goals at Supermarine and Oxford City

True - but obviously he did not do enough to make our managment think he could replicate that in L1 . The true state of our released stars will be seen when they hook up with new clubs . So far only Mustapha Caroyol has gone on to be higher upo than us - and that was after a good few years and Maccesfield and Rovers . I doubt any of the current lot will even end up in L2 next season!

Score: 2

jayden says...10:36pm Sat 17 May 14

London Red wrote…

Paul12001 wrote…

Kayden went out on loan and scored goals at Supermarine and Oxford City

True - but obviously he did not do enough to make our managment think he could replicate that in L1 . The true state of our released stars will be seen when they hook up with new clubs . So far only Mustapha Caroyol has gone on to be higher upo than us - and that was after a good few years and Maccesfield and Rovers . I doubt any of the current lot will even end up in L2 next season!

There is a saying LR " know all KNOW BUGGER ALL".

[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paul12001[/bold] wrote:
Kayden went out on loan and scored goals at Supermarine and Oxford City[/p][/quote]True - but obviously he did not do enough to make our managment think he could replicate that in L1
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The true state of our released stars will be seen when they hook up with new clubs
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So far only Mustapha Caroyol has gone on to be higher upo than us - and that was after a good few years and Maccesfield and Rovers
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I doubt any of the current lot will even end up in L2 next season![/p][/quote]There is a saying LR " know all KNOW BUGGER ALL".jayden

London Red wrote…

Paul12001 wrote…

Kayden went out on loan and scored goals at Supermarine and Oxford City

True - but obviously he did not do enough to make our managment think he could replicate that in L1 . The true state of our released stars will be seen when they hook up with new clubs . So far only Mustapha Caroyol has gone on to be higher upo than us - and that was after a good few years and Maccesfield and Rovers . I doubt any of the current lot will even end up in L2 next season!

There is a saying LR " know all KNOW BUGGER ALL".

Score: 0

the wizard says...9:19am Sun 18 May 14

In principle this decision was probably made a while back and since then nobody in the clubs eyes has excelled enough to be adopted on board. Power is obviously very focused on driving down overheads and although unpopular I wouldn't be surprised to see further cuts. The latest ruck with Jed is likely to prove costly, and unlike Black, Power only has in comparison limited funds, unless he can find a backer of worth to come in with him. Big shame Power didn't arrive beforehand in an advisory capacity to Black and that could have saved a lot of money and a lot of blushes all round . I think Power is re structuring the club in a good manner, and despite the ongoing Jedgate saga, I'm looking forward to next season with a certain amount of hope and positivity, as long as Jedgate doesn't rattle on for too long. Many players will become available in June and the next few weeks of ins and outs should provide some interest and no doubt intrigue as well. Its always a bit sad and lamentable to see youngster in whom we had pinned a lot of hope move on, and lets hope Bodin is right and they do enjoy good careers, meanwhile maintaining them is perhaps one expense Power can do without right now, but given a promotion things will probably change, lets hope so. Good luck to all the guys concerned. I wish them well, and thank them for what they have tried to achieve during their time with us.

In principle this decision was probably made a while back and since then nobody in the clubs eyes has excelled enough to be adopted on board. Power is obviously very focused on driving down overheads and although unpopular I wouldn't be surprised to see further cuts. The latest ruck with Jed is likely to prove costly, and unlike Black, Power only has in comparison limited funds, unless he can find a backer of worth to come in with him.
Big shame Power didn't arrive beforehand in an advisory capacity to Black and that could have saved a lot of money and a lot of blushes all round . I think Power is re structuring the club in a good manner, and despite the ongoing Jedgate saga, I'm looking forward to next season with a certain amount of hope and positivity, as long as Jedgate doesn't rattle on for too long. Many players will become available in June and the next few weeks of ins and outs should provide some interest and no doubt intrigue as well. Its always a bit sad and lamentable to see youngster in whom we had pinned a lot of hope move on, and lets hope Bodin is right and they do enjoy good careers, meanwhile maintaining them is perhaps one expense Power can do without right now, but given a promotion things will probably change, lets hope so. Good luck to all the guys concerned. I wish them well, and thank them for what they have tried to achieve during their time with us.the wizard

In principle this decision was probably made a while back and since then nobody in the clubs eyes has excelled enough to be adopted on board. Power is obviously very focused on driving down overheads and although unpopular I wouldn't be surprised to see further cuts. The latest ruck with Jed is likely to prove costly, and unlike Black, Power only has in comparison limited funds, unless he can find a backer of worth to come in with him. Big shame Power didn't arrive beforehand in an advisory capacity to Black and that could have saved a lot of money and a lot of blushes all round . I think Power is re structuring the club in a good manner, and despite the ongoing Jedgate saga, I'm looking forward to next season with a certain amount of hope and positivity, as long as Jedgate doesn't rattle on for too long. Many players will become available in June and the next few weeks of ins and outs should provide some interest and no doubt intrigue as well. Its always a bit sad and lamentable to see youngster in whom we had pinned a lot of hope move on, and lets hope Bodin is right and they do enjoy good careers, meanwhile maintaining them is perhaps one expense Power can do without right now, but given a promotion things will probably change, lets hope so. Good luck to all the guys concerned. I wish them well, and thank them for what they have tried to achieve during their time with us.

Score: 2

Jets there'd says...12:40pm Sun 18 May 14

Morsey wrote…

Could always get a job at Nationwide and play part-time for Swindon Supermarine FC and help move Swindon's second highest level team to rise up the leagues?

Or join Cirencester Town FC & play at a higher level; the Southern Premier League

[quote][p][bold]Morsey[/bold] wrote:
Could always get a job at Nationwide and play part-time for Swindon Supermarine FC and help move Swindon's second highest level team to rise up the leagues?[/p][/quote]Or join Cirencester Town FC & play at a higher level; the Southern Premier LeagueJets there'd

Morsey wrote…

Could always get a job at Nationwide and play part-time for Swindon Supermarine FC and help move Swindon's second highest level team to rise up the leagues?

Or join Cirencester Town FC & play at a higher level; the Southern Premier League

Score: 0

LeGod says...1:38pm Mon 19 May 14

I thought Bodin was depressed and out the game and now all of a sudden making his comments. As for people who think he's a great bloke well from experience I can tell you I can provide a different version. Nothing against him but things move on and as far as I'm concerned he's history and if he was that good he would have ended up somewhere else but as far as I know he's not anywhere now.

I thought Bodin was depressed and out the game and now all of a sudden making his comments. As for people who think he's a great bloke well from experience I can tell you I can provide a different version.
Nothing against him but things move on and as far as I'm concerned he's history and if he was that good he would have ended up somewhere else but as far as I know he's not anywhere now.LeGod

I thought Bodin was depressed and out the game and now all of a sudden making his comments. As for people who think he's a great bloke well from experience I can tell you I can provide a different version. Nothing against him but things move on and as far as I'm concerned he's history and if he was that good he would have ended up somewhere else but as far as I know he's not anywhere now.

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