If you cannot, for whatever reason and are still going to drop $50K on a boat you haven't demo'd, then go with the Axis. Wakeboard and wakesurf wakes are proven, solid, amazing. The mondo may be great, but it has not been put to the test yet. The A22 hull (and little brother A20 hull) are tried and true.

My vote is the 2014 A22....but that is what I have. I haven't heard any reviews on the Mondo surf wave yet. My opinion from what I have witnessed, the Mondo will have better fit and finish. It seems like Moomba stepped it up with the Mondo.

I think the A22 is more versitile. The wedge allows for more versitile wake for wakeboarding. You can slam the boat with the wedge up and it produces a nice rampy wake then drop the wedge and it adds a lip to the wake. Plus you get the benefits of surfgate if you get the 2014.

I'm a little confused by why you're not comparing the A22 to the Mojo as they're more comparable in size. Having ridden behind the Mondo though, I can tell you the wakeboard wake is great with some weight. The surf wake is what really shines though, its excellent. Obviously, these factors are slightly improved on the big brother (Mojo), but like others have said you should demo and test the wakes yourself. If it were me, I would give the edge to the Mondo just because of the interior fit and finish. Being a similar price, Moomba is leagues ahead of Axis in this department.

Cruise control is standard on an A22. I am with the guys who say drive and ride behind both. Something else to consider when ordering new. What is your dealer relationship like? We have decided to upgrade boats and that is one of our main concerns. Who will do the little warranty issues that always come up on new boats? Will your dealer take care of you if you are having problems? Does your dealer call you back in a timely manner? Do the mechanics know what they are doing? We have weighed out all the pros and cons of new boats (price being a big factor) and decided on ordering a 2014 Axis A22. For an all around boat we are very happy with the Axis versatility. We are coming from an older tige and I would have loved to stay with tige but there were to many cons that I couldn't outweigh the pros. Good Luck on the decision

The Mojo wakeboard wake isn't even close to the A22. If wakeboarding is your thing you'll be disappointed with the Mojo. Mojo is a surfing machine, so I've heard if that's what you want. Good luck. Prices are very comparable depending on ur dealership.

The Mojo wakeboard wake isn't even close to the A22. If wakeboarding is your thing you'll be disappointed with the Mojo. Mojo is a surfing machine, so I've heard if that's what you want. Good luck. Prices are very comparable depending on ur dealership.

I have to disagree here. The axis without extra weight is tiny where I found the mojo with stack bags the be quite an enjoyable wake. Now, if you're running 5000 pounds that's where th Axis will shine because it will stay clean with that much weight, but for most riders I would say the mojo is the better option. As far as surf wake goes, it's not even close

Just demo both and tell us what you think. I've not been in a Mondo yet, so I can't comment. I just know that the Axis wake is awesome at a variety of weight setups. It does not require 5k in ballast to be awesome.

Just demo both and tell us what you think. I've not been in a Mondo yet, so I can't comment. I just know that the Axis wake is awesome at a variety of weight setups. It does not require 5k in ballast to be awesome.

I have to agree. I tend to pull some beginners a couple of times during the summer. The Axis A22 with no weight in it puts out a bass boat size wake that is easy for beginners to learn to cross over. Filp some switches and drop the wedge to make the wake grow. I love the increased diameter ballast hoses and higher flow pumps. The ballast fill quickly. The plug n play is also a nice feature.

I have to disagree here. The axis without extra weight is tiny where I found the mojo with stack bags the be quite an enjoyable wake. Now, if you're running 5000 pounds that's where th Axis will shine because it will stay clean with that much weight, but for most riders I would say the mojo is the better option. As far as surf wake goes, it's not even close

Not sure what axis you've ridden in, but the wake stays clean slammed or not, slow or fast. One of the most consistent wakes on the market. You don't have to run 5000lbs. If you want to run heavy you are going to get one hell of a wake though.

I have to agree. I tend to pull some beginners a couple of times during the summer. The Axis A22 with no weight in it puts out a bass boat size wake that is easy for beginners to learn to cross over. Filp some switches and drop the wedge to make the wake grow. I love the increased diameter ballast hoses and higher flow pumps. The ballast fill quickly. The plug n play is also a nice feature.

This is one of the biggest reasons we decided on the A22. We have a 7 and 9 year old and I pull them around 16 mph. The axis wake was very manageable and clean for them and my wife. As soon as their done I can flip the switch, fill the ballast and have a kick a$$ wake.

No I haven't. Not sure if that would help or hurt the surf wake. Either way, my intention wasn't to downplay the axis wakeboard wake. It's fantastic and it probably is more versatile than the mojo. I simply meant that the Mojo has a much bigger stock wake and it's certainly not a disappointment for those of us that primarily wakeboard

No I haven't. Not sure if that would help or hurt the surf wake. Either way, my intention wasn't to downplay the axis wakeboard wake. It's fantastic and it probably is more versatile than the mojo. I simply meant that the Mojo has a much bigger stock wake and it's certainly not a disappointment for those of us that primarily wakeboard

The stock wake from Axis is perfect for me. I doubt the Mondo is bigger than the stock Axis wake. The Axis gets crazy when weight is added. I put 900lbs in the nose and 800 lbs in the rear with wedge down and it was awesome. Once my buddy that had a 2010 and a 2012 Axis rode behind one with extra weight, he was hooked. He has since added the pnp to his.

Honestly, I looked up the Mondo today and was not impressed. The interior looks a lot like my 2014 Axis. Some of the fiberglass is laid out differently but that is the main difference. Axis upgraded the vinyl so now it is good quality, just less stiching that the premium boats. Surf Gate was the selling point for me.

Sorry, I am not impressed. It isnt the Supra, Malibu, Mastercraft, Natique quality you are playing it out to be.

No, it's not Supra/Malibu quality. It's not supposed to be. It is, however, a very nice interior for the money. It doesn't take much to be better than Axis interior though, they have see-through pieces of plastic as seat bases for god sake

No, it's not Supra/Malibu quality. It's not supposed to be. It is, however, a very nice interior for the money. It doesn't take much to be better than Axis interior though, they have see-through pieces of plastic as seat bases for god sake

I guess I have a special Axis A22 cause mine does not have see-through pieces of plastic as seat bases. My seat bases are black HDPE.

HDPE is a form of plastic that's commonly used in the production of plastic bottles... And yes, your seat bases have holes in them

I guess I am confused because my previous boat (Centurion, great boat btw) had the same type of seat bases with holes in it. The holes are allowed to drain water that gets in the seat and allow for air to flow out of the seat when it is sat on. I don't see an issue with it. The HDPE is rigid enough and seems like the standard material used as the base for seat cushions.

I agree the Mondo interior is nicely done and boat looks good overall. Better than an Axis (your opinion). If your comparing wakeboard wakes your kidding yourself. When's the last wakeboard event pulled with a Mojo or Mondo? Weight them both as you would ride them and compare. I don't want to hear about stock wake because that's up for debate too and no one rides stock.

Btw I've been in a Mondo and you go ahead and try to get 13 people in there if you want to. They better be 4th graders.

Axis A22 seat bases that you see in these pictures with the cutouts are CNC cut billet aluminum powder coated to match the tower. They are not plastic, they are not composite. No, JetRanger, there is no plywood in the A22 either.

Good lord.

Yes, the A22 interior is somewhat utilitarian. Well, that's something I liked, because if you need a new seat or a repair made, it's not going to cost you a billion dollars. I accidentially punctured a seat in the Mgrain textured vinyl of my lsv, and it was a nightmare getting it fixed, and it was not cheap. The A22 vinyl is much like the vinyl that I had on my 3 SANTE 230's, which is super easy to repair and replace if necessary. All these super complex interiors are aesthetically pleasing, but if you mess them up, cha ching!

Again, go demo all of these boats. Factor in resale, dealer network, warranty, price, performance and value. Buy what works best for you.

i was looking at mojo vs a22. i went a22 and couldnt be happier. i load 5000lbs just for surfing and the boat works like a champ. i am 400 lbs and surf this wave. tons of push. my friends that wakeboard love the wake. you cant beat a boat that was disigned by boarders for boarders. yes the interior might be a little basic but the boat is ment for riders not dropping anchor trying to look cool in party cove cause you have a wakeboard boat.

This is really something you need to decide for yourself. Go out and demo and hang out in the boats. They are both built by reputable manufacturers and good boats. They are both supposed to be the no frills boats compared to the higher end ones. I don't have a dog in the fight but my opinions from the outside...
Interior - Moomba absolutely blows the Axis away. I wish Axis would follow the suit of the Malibu and put a nice interior in their boats. They just look cheap. I know the goal is to make them look cheaper to upsell to a Malibu, but it would not take much to really spruce that up. I think MB and Moomba win here...
Wake - I have heard they both have awesome wakes and waves and you can't go wrong.
Dealer - Have you considered which dealer in town you would rather form a relationship with? This is a big part of boat ownership.

Again, go and demo and hang out in them. You will not get any real feedback on this thread. Just opinions and people sticking up for their boat purchase....

Been on the Mojo and the Mb 52'
For a no hastle plug and play boat would be the Mb 52. Huge Comp Style surf wake that is incredible on both sides. also wake seemed solid as bodies played musical chairs. ,,Other boats seem to be picky as weight is moved around th boat. The Mb has a SUPER FAST balast fill.
On a long term investment and instant gratification on a hassle free push button wake balast system. My only choice would be the MB 52'

I took a surf set and a wakeboard set behind the new Mondo yesterday. I will admit with a factory ballast it could use a little help on the surf wake. But changing out a ballast bag shouldn't be where the discussion should end.

Overall the boat drove very smoothly and felt very solid. It had very little rattle and shake, especially compared to previous model moombas that i have been on. It rolled a little bit more when turning than my 210, but nothing too dramatic. Overall i was impressed, and for a boat in the 50s its amazing!

Been on the Mojo and the Mb 52'
For a no hastle plug and play boat would be the Mb 52. Huge Comp Style surf wake that is incredible on both sides. also wake seemed solid as bodies played musical chairs. ,,Other boats seem to be picky as weight is moved around th boat. The Mb has a SUPER FAST balast fill.
On a long term investment and instant gratification on a hassle free push button wake balast system. My only choice would be the MB 52'

I think a tandem axle trailer would help that moomba be a bit more structurally sound going down tbe freeway at 75 mph. No way would I ever have a single axle trailer for for a boat that weighs that much.

There is a lot to be said about the Axis wake when my buddy trades his 2012 Moomba LSV in for a 2013 A22. He didnt like the wake on his boat after riding the stock A22. He has since rode a semi weighted A22 and that made him decide to purchase his A22. The wake is second to none for the price. It grows to a stupid size with weight.

HAHA wow!! Now I'm embarrassed because I just laughed out loud in a public place and no one knows why.

I'd say you don't understand Axis at all.

Must not know bro! but I know that ive been in the boat business for 7 years now. and have seen the market BOOM! And you might be all hyped on your axis experience. Malibu just tried too copy skiers choice Moomba line.. Moomba has been in the inboard world for a every long time.

Must not know bro! but I know that ive been in the boat business for 7 years now. and have seen the market BOOM! And you might be all hyped on your axis experience. Malibu just tried too copy skiers choice Moomba line.. Moomba has been in the inboard world for a every long time.

I am not speaking for J_bird, cause I don't know him.
Reading his post, he says "malibu just tried to copy skiers choice moomba line". I think he is trying to say that Malibu is copying in terms of producing a budget line boat under the same umbrella. I doubt he is saying they copied Moomba. If he is, I don't agree with him either, but I think he is just stating the fact that Malibu introduced a budget line (Axis) like Skiers Choice did (Moomba).