@FourSevenZero - Aye. I tried far cry 3. But can't hold it down. Same with borderlands 2. I just feel like I'm missing out when I'm not playing dark souls/demon souls. It *still* feels like there's so much more to do before I can move on.

FanBoysSuck wrote:
The butchers knife is a pretty mean strength weapon and scales A at plus 14.

Now that I'm boosting my non core stats, I fancy giving the true great sword of artorias a bash. The great lord great sword has been a bit of a let down, it's not doing much more damage than my plus 15 scaling weapon and is quite a bit slower.

I been using the Butchers Knife and love it I got it to 15 as soon as I could and it's been brilliant fun!

To write off even playing Dark Souls because of perceived difficulty is doing it a great disservice.

Even when you hit an apparent brick wall there are plenty of ways to overcome it, do something else in the game so you level up, get someone to join your game to help, explore and find a ridiculously powerful weapon, or many other approaches.

We got Lego StarWars III this weekend (gift from family) and I jumped in to help out my son. Somehow I kept pressing the shield button ("keep your shield UP!" ) and getting confused when enemies were still hitting me. Same thing happened when I jumped in a game of BF-BC2, until I realised that the shield button is actually the "throw grenade" button in that game

Yeh I'm normally a dex character too, but fancied something different for the PtDE and I am really enjoying the build (str & faith) I stole the weapon idea from ENB! and just thinking as I've got the strength I should try some massive weapons to twat things with

Magic path:
Get the crystal magic buff and use the tin crystalization catalyst or for you even better at high strength, get the new catalyst which is forged from a boss soul in the new content.
At intelligence 50, the crystal magic buff will add over 400 magical damage to your weapon.

Faith path:
Get the darkmoon blade miracle or if you don't want to be a covenant member get the sunlight blade miracle both are about the same damage wise.

At faith 50 with the darkmoon talisman, the buffs will add about 400 magical damage to your weapon.

Each time you do a New Game you can collect the buffs again and then have 2 or 3 or.... buffs (depending on how many slots you have) in store.

Those buffs are going to save your life in the four kings battle in later NGs where you need to deal huge amounts of damage in a short amount of time before more kings respawn.

As a strength char I'd recommend the faith path. Use great magic barrier miracle to get up close and personal with those dark magic casters in PvP and smash them into the ground.

@FourSevenZero Nice to see another ENB fan around. His video's get me through the day at work

Someone mentioned an ultimate strength weapon earlier in the thread that scales S for strength as well as one or two other stats that scale lower. Enchanted something I think. It may be worth trying that out.

@Dangerous_Dan I'm pumping faith at the moment so I can join the sun bro's on NG++ and get the last miracle. Is it worth boosting it to 30 for the sunlight blade buff? It says in the description that it does lightning damage rather than magic which will only be off limited use comparatively.

@FanBoysSuck - It's not S in strength sadly. Nothing scales S for strength except the dragon-bone fist (I think )!!! The Demon Great (insert suffix here)'s scale S in int if they're enchanted, strength then drops to D (I think) but the amount of additional magical damage generated makes the moonlight greatsword look like a card trick. It's also the same for occult and divine, although I'm not sure if they scale up the faith to S, I seem to remember it's a very high A. You'll find that these such weapons are great if you don't have (or use) any buffs but they'll pale against a fully buffed +15. Your choice I guess!!!

Hang on then, so say I roll a strength based character (not that I've been mulling it over or anything), are we saying that a standard greatsword is the way to go? 15 it, and then use either int or faith buffs?

Those buffs are great but Gold Pine resin also works well if you don't want any magic; greatly increases the chance to stagger, plus it's easy to farm. I was once wrecked in PvP by some bastard coating a +15 halbred with one (another awesome and under rated weapon for strength builds).

FanBoysSuck wrote:
@Dangerous_Dan I'm pumping faith at the moment so I can join the sun bro's on NG++ and get the last miracle. Is it worth boosting it to 30 for the sunlight blade buff? It says in the description that it does lightning damage rather than magic which will only be off limited use comparatively.

DMB only gets one casting - ever as it's a covenant "gift" whereas sunlight blade can be had on each subsequent playthrough. However, I can assure you, DMB scales much better damage the higher level you are in the BotDM. Also, you'll be wanting the DM Talisman as it's the best one in the game?