While I agree that Gerd would score less in today's game because of evolving defensive standards, to not understate him it's worth noting that not many legendary strikers at all can boast similar stats to his. I mean, those are almost Pele-level numbers.

Fernando_Bayern_BR wrote:I love Robben, but there's no way he's ahead of Ribéry in a best XI list.

People had divided opinions on who deserved the Ballon d'Or more between Ribery and Robben back in 2013... it could easily be one reason why Ribery failed to win it. People like goalscorers and Robben is more of a goalscorer than Ribery.Robben played less that year, one thing that spoke in his disadvantage but he scored in the most important games.

Past and today, we're talking about humans, they had 2 legs each back then like today... the competition was fairer and not everything was about the money.

Jens Ulbrich analysed how many ELO points each German team collected in their European Cup history. It is no surprise to see Bayern at the top of the list, but interesting to see that they collected as many points as the next three teams combined (Dortmund, Karlsruhe! and Schalke). If you have no idea what ELO point are about, the site “Football Club Elo Ratings” can help you out. http://clubelo.com/

ramsej, just remembered our discussion with our friend at the club on Saturday and double checked to make sure you and I were right. It turns out we were all partially correct. Bayern have indeed been relegated once, in 1954/55, but this was before the Bundesliga was formed so we remain unrelegated from the Bundesliga.

Of course, he said it took place in the 80s (if I heard correctly), so he couldn't be further from the truth.

FCBayernMunchen wrote:ramsej, just remembered our discussion with our friend at the club on Saturday and double checked to make sure you and I were right. It turns out we were all partially correct. Bayern have indeed been relegated once, in 1954/55, but this was before the Bundesliga was formed so we remain unrelegated from the Bundesliga.

Of course, he said it took place in the 80s (if I heard correctly), so he couldn't be further from the truth.

FCBayernMunchen wrote:ramsej, just remembered our discussion with our friend at the club on Saturday and double checked to make sure you and I were right. It turns out we were all partially correct. Bayern have indeed been relegated once, in 1954/55, but this was before the Bundesliga was formed so we remain unrelegated from the Bundesliga.

Of course, he said it took place in the 80s (if I heard correctly), so he couldn't be further from the truth.

No mobile data reception at the club?

There is... but we were focusing on watching the masterclass football by our players instead

FCBayernMunchen wrote:ramsej, just remembered our discussion with our friend at the club on Saturday and double checked to make sure you and I were right. It turns out we were all partially correct. Bayern have indeed been relegated once, in 1954/55, but this was before the Bundesliga was formed so we remain unrelegated from the Bundesliga.

Of course, he said it took place in the 80s (if I heard correctly), so he couldn't be further from the truth.

No mobile data reception at the club?

There is... but we were focusing on watching the masterclass football by our players instead

Regardless of whatever happens the reality is that history will look upon Rafinha and Ulreich as the villains for Bayern Munich’s 2018 elimination in these two games against Real Madrid. Years from now when people will only watch a combined highlight of the two legs, those two mistakes will stick out like a sore thumb and despite whatever happened in the remaining 180 Minutes or how well Ulreich/Rafinha did otherwise in the two games will forever be overshadowed by those two blunders.

Yes the finishing from our forwards could’ve been much better but a decade or so down the line people will only talk about those two very very bad individual mistakes as the fatal errors that proved decisive in Bayern’s downfall.

BayernForum.com is an official fan club of FC Bayern Munich.
The views and opinions expressed within this site are those of the specified authors.
Externally linked content is the property of the relevant copyright holder.