Thursday, October 23, 2008

What is a Legal Capacity to Contract Marriage (“Ehefähigkeitszeugnis”)?How to get a Legal Capacity to Contract Marriage (“Ehefähigkeitszeugnis”)?

This paper is issued by their diplomatic official in the Philippines. This is called the “Ehefaehigkeitszeugnis” in German and is available from the Local Civil Registry Office or “Standesamt”. The German fiancee/fiance SHOULD have this document ready before his flight to the Philippines.

" ä "= " ae " in German

The requirements for this document depends on the Local Civil Registry Officer in the local town where the German fiancee/fiance lives. In our case the following papers were asked:

List of Requirements As of JUNE 2007Note that these list of requirements might change from time to time or case to case.For updates please visit the official site of the Embassy of the Republic of the Philippines

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hello,its me again,cyrille..the civil registry there where my fiance lives told him, to send to me the application form of Ehefähigkeitszeugnis, fill in where i should fill in(verlobte), bring it to german embassy, and they should sign right beside my signature...civil registry wanted me to do that because i cannot be there for application,they want to make sure i am really the one who signed it...

did u also do this step??

i went there last friday, but they didnt sign it, they said, i should send it back to my fiance..hmmm, may i know from where u are in germany??

Seems like your situation is different than mine. Where are you planning to get married? In the Philippines or in Germany?

Unfortunately I can't say much of you processing the Ehefähigkeitszeugnis paper.

Our experience:1. I have mailed all the requirements listed above as a Filipino fiance to my German fiancee. 2. Then my German fiancee processed the Ehefähigkeitszeugnis in her local civil registry in Germany.3. My German fiancee received the Ehefähigkeitszeugnis paper.4. My German fiancee went to the Philippines and mailed the Ehefähigkeitszeugnis to the German Embassy to get it checked and translated to english with stamp.5. We received the Ehefähigkeitszeugnis that is now translated to english (Legal Capacity to Contract Marriage).

Finally, I would suggest you to let your German fiance contact the German Embassy to clarify things because there might be additional requirements for you. It is always case-to-case basis.

I just want to ask if there is a German Embassy in Cebu city? My German fiancee is coming 3 weeks later and i told him already to bring his Legal capacity of contract marriage. He told me that he has it already but not translated in English because the office where he got it told him that he can get his LCOCM in english at German embassy here in PH. I am not a residence of Cebu of Cebu thats why i have no idea if there it is or no. So im hoping that you can help me a bit... Thanks & Best regards..

Hello there,i also have a little problem regarding "getting married in the Philippines"I am originally from Germany (still German Passport) but i live in the UK for the past nine years. I was married before in germany but i got divorced here in the UK.When i applied for my "Ehefaehigkeitszeugnis" in germany i have been told that i am "official" still married and i have to legalize my english divorce ?? which takes time ! Stupid we are EU !Anyway, i have no time for this, so i applied for my "legal capacity to contract marriage" here in the UK and i got it ;-) so i have my german pass, my german birth certificate and my english divorce paper and legal capacity......from the UKCan anyone confirm that my paperwork are in correct order so i can get finally married in January 2009 !?Thank's for any help and adviseFrank egalwo@gmx.com

Thanks for visiting my site.Seems like your situation is different than mine.

So your question is If your papers are legal or legitimate. I would suggest that you contact the German Embassy in the Philippines regarding your issue since you are still Officially married in Germany. Here is the link to the official website of the German Embassy in the Philippines: http://www.manila.diplo.de/Vertretung/manila/en/01/Visabestimmungen/Visabestimmungen.html

Just my opinion: I think your papers are correct since you got a Legal Capacity from the UK...BUT...the question is the legality of your marriage or status (I don't know what is the right term for this) in Germany. You better ask or research than going to court.hehe

Sorry I can't help you that much regarding your situation but hope this helps. ^_^

hello,my name is christie..i just want to ask what papers i should gather in applying for marriage.my fiance is a german and i a filipino and we are planning to get married here in the philippines..im single and my fiance is divorced..what papres i needed and also what papers he needs?hope to hear from you soon..thank you in advance.

im applying for a fiancee visa..we are planning to get married there in germany ..actually i already done alls in embassy , we just only waiting and its been 2 months now. i heard some humored that fiancee visa is the most complicated of all, and the longest time to wait. is this true? i need some info.

I believe you are right. Fiancee requires a lot of time. During my CFO-SMEF-COW Seminar, there was a woman who I talked with. She told me that she already have the German Visa but she waited for 12-14 months. So just be patient and I suggest that you learn German because you really need it. ^_^

Filipino fiancee/fiance:1. NSO Birth Certificate with Red Ribbon from the DFA- Note that in the first page you will see a Red Ribbon, your NSO Birth Certificate is actually on the next page.2. Joint Affidavit of Civil Status with Red Ribbon from the DFA- Note that in the first page you will see a Red Ribbon, your Joint Affidavit of Civil Status is actually on the next page.3. Joint Affidavit of Parental Advice with Red Ribbon from the DFA- Note that in the first page you will see a Red Ribbon, your Joint Affidavit of Parental Advice is actually on the next page.4. CENOMAR (Certificate of No Marriage, issued by the NSO)5. Barangay Certificate6. Clear Copy of Passport ID with a Certification from the DFA that this is a Certified True Copy

because it says here that the papers must have red ribbon from DFA. Do i need to go there in manila?please help me

Hi,,im just visiting this site!!!!im just want to ask about the legal capacity,,im married already and this case was not mine but to my husband friend,,he want take legal capacity but the problem is he dont have yet the divorce decree coz it takes time..can he take it at philippines?am waiting for reply..

I'm very sorry to say this but I could really understand what you are trying to say.What I assume are:1. Your husband's friend wants to get a Legal Capacity to contract Marriage2. The husband is still working on his Divorce papers.Am I right?

And also, what do you mean about can he take "it" in the Philippines? What do you mean by "it"?

Hello, Thanks for the reply,,yes he still working hi divorce paper,and wanted to marry at philippines.My question is can he take legal capacity to contract marriage in philipppines even that the divorce is not yet finish. Im glad for your reply.

You live near Munich, right? I lived there as well for 3 months (from March to June 2008) almost in the absolute center of the city, it's a beautiful place! ^_^ But you're right, it's expensive to live there ^^;

I want to ask some questions, but maybe just 1 question for now ^^ Did I understand you correctly, that "Ehefähigkeitszeugnis" can be obtained from the local civil registry in Germany and it has to be brought to the embassy here in Manila, (when the fiance arrives) and have it translated into English? Does the embassy here requires other papers? Or do they just translate Ehefähigkeitszeugnis and require nothing else?

my german boyfriend wish me to apply visit visa for germany. you think i will be approved? coz as i know only relatives can apply for Visit Visa, i mean who have relative in germany.. please advice. thank you

Hello! I just have a question.I am Filipina and I have a German fiance. Do you know which one is more advantageous: to get married in Philippines or in Germany?

We both wanted to make sure that our marriage will be legitimate in both countries. And to make sure I can go to Germany freely and he can stay in Philippines freely too after we are married. Have any idea?

It's possible to have a german tourist visa (schengen visa) even if you do not have a relative there. But it's difficult to be granted this visa. First you need a bank account (should be 6 months or more mature) containing I think at least 120K pesos. You should have working certificate, insurance etc.

"Did I understand you correctly, that "Ehefähigkeitszeugnis" can be obtained from the local civil registry in Germany and it has to be brought to the embassy here in Manila, (when the fiance arrives) and have it translated into English? Does the embassy here requires other papers?"Yes you are right based on my experience. As for the other papers, please see the list of requirements above for both the German fiancee/fiance and Filipino fiancee/fiance.

As what Anonymous replied, its possible. But you have to be patient as Tourist takes a lot of time before it gets approved. It's not based on experience though, but I heard this from my friends and people I have met when processing my German Spouse Visa.

Personally, I would suggest that you get married in the Philippines because this is my experience ^_^Of course it will be legitimate in both countries if you follow all the rules and have submitted legitimate papers. And both of you can stay freely either in the Philippines and Germany.Wedding or Marriage in the PhilippinesHope this helps ^_^

_______________________________________________Yes you are right based on my experience. As for the other papers, please see the list of requirements above for both the German fiancee/fiance and Filipino fiancee/fiance.

Hope this helps ^_^_______________________________________________

Many thanks for the reply ^_^

But what I wanted to ask was, if the german embassy here in Manila requires other papers from the german fiance/ee, other than Ehefähigkeitszeugnis?

I have another question though (hope you don't mind ^^; sorry for disturbing)

How long did it take the embassy here to translate Ehefähigkeitszeugnis into english?

How long did it take Standesamt before they released Ehefähigkeitszeugnis of your fiancee?

"But what I wanted to ask was, if the german embassy here in Manila requires other papers from the german fiance/ee, other than Ehefähigkeitszeugnis?"Actually I have written it in this post:German fiancee/fiance:1. German Passport2. Internatonal Birth Certificate

"How long did it take the embassy here to translate Ehefähigkeitszeugnis into english?"Approximately 1 week based on my experience.

"How long did it take Standesamt before they released Ehefähigkeitszeugnis of your fiancee?"Approximately 2 weeks based on my experience considering there are no problems with your papers.

As far as I can remember, my German partner passed a German Passport Copy and Internatonal Birth Certificate at the Standesamt in Germany.

My German partner also passed a German Passport Copy, Original Ehefähigkeitszeugnis, Copy of Date of Arrival in the Philippines, and 1250 Pesos payment.

It would also be better if you check the official website of the German Embassy in the Philippines since their requirements always change from time to time. Or contact their local operators if possible. OR let your German partner call the respective office concerned to make everything clear.

Regarding the Red Ribbon, I am not sure if this is still required or not but I submitted my papers with Red Ribbon before. So it would be better to call the German Embassy or let your German partner call the offices concerned. Again, to make things clear as rules always change and German are very STRICT!

Wie geht es dir? Uhmm..I just wanna ask, if what are those documents that you had the red ribbon with for the requirements for the 'Legal Capacity to Contract Marriage'? Are those 4, NSO BC, CENOMAR, Affidavit of Civil Status, and Affidavit of Parental Advice?

Thanks for sharing the info. Then that means the cost is lesser compared before if they removed the DFA Red Ribbon requirement. And it is now easier to get a German Visa if they are after your German Language Certificate.

Hallo! I would like to inquire regarding the passport when applying for the German Residence Visa. I have my renewed machine-readable passport now with my single name. When I get married, I will still have to request for another new passport with my married name before applying for the visa?

HELLO THERE,I WAS READING YOUR BLOG AND IT IS REALLY A BIG HELP FOR US. I AM FILIPINA AND I HAVE A GERMAN FIANCE. WE ARE PROCESSING NOW THE PAPERS FOR HIS LEGAL CAPACITY AND I NEEDED TO TRANSLATE MY PAPERS TO GERMAN. I JUST WANT TO ASK HOW DID YOU DO THAT LEGAL TRANSLATION PROCEDURE? DID YOU DO THAT HERE IN THE PHILS. BEFORE SENDING IT TO GERMANY? IF SO, HOW DID YOU DO THAT OR HOW DID YOU CONTACT A CERTIFIED TRANSLATOR? DID YOU ASK ADVISE FIRST FROM THE GERMAN EMBASSY HERE IN THE PHILIPPINES? I WOULD BE GLAD TO HEAR FROM YOU ABOUT YOUR YOUR IDEAS REGARDING THIS MATTER.THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS.SHERYL.

i just would like to answer ur questions based on my experience.i contacted the german embassy and they have given me a list of the different translation company here in the phils.so its to up to u what company will u choose.then i called one of the companies and they told me to email my birth certificate and cenomar.i paid tru smart money.after 2 days i got the german translation tru a courier.and then i sent it to my husband in germany.

Me and my german boyfriend was planning to marry here in the philippines so that it would be much easier for him to take me to germany,i would like to thank you for this blog,i will use this as a guide,and i know this would really help us a lot,thank you so much!

Hello! My German fiancee wants me to visit him in Germany, by July after his operation.He came here in the Philippines 2 times already.We travelled together in Africa last oct.27,2009 for 20 days.But now,his health need him to take rest and he wants me to visit him in Germany.Do you think the visa officer will grant my application,while my annulmnet still on going,and he is widow? I'm afraid the visa officer will not grant me to visit him since Im still married with anothey man,although weve been separated for more than 10 years and no communication at all.My relationship with my german fiancee is already 1 year.Hope you can advise me and help me.Thanks

Hi Anonymous,I believe that you have already answered your own question... "I'm afraid the visa officer will not grant me to visit him since Im still married with another man".Better to clarify and sort things out. Please be reminded that Germans are very strict.

am i right?that it was stated there that i also have to send those above requirements and needed to be translated?in order for my fiance to get the so called Ehefahigkeitszeugnis?oder (legal capacity of marriage?But where can i find accredited/authenticated/official agencies who's document translation to legalize everything?i am really thankful that i found this site,because i can relate to everybody!and i really appreciate it...vielen danke! :)

Hi Ana! Please check the website of the German Embassy for a list of translators here http://www.manila.diplo.de/Vertretung/manila/de/04/Konsularischer__Service/ddatei__uebersetzer__14.05.10,property=Daten.pdf

and important details about examination of documents here http://www.manila.diplo.de/Vertretung/manila/en/04/Konsularischer__Service/MB__exam__phil__docs__feb10,property=Daten.pdf

how many days or week po ba ang pagkuha ng Ehefähigkeitszeugnis sa germany? my german bf don't know yet since he is so busy at work...he told me if i can ask to someone who had been doing this process..he wants to know para ma estimate niya ang time to go at their city hall to the time he will fly here in philippines...or magdepende po ba iyan city by city?

hi i saw in the paper above CERTIFICATE OF LEGAL CAPACITY TO CONTRACT MARRIAGE na this certificate is valid until...so how many days or months po ba valid ung paper? coz if my fiance cant stay here for more than 10days at pupunta lang xa para maka pag apply kami marriage license. and then he will come back again for marriage.

Hello again, thanks for confirmation and enlightening me. I already got my Affidavit of Civil Status, Birth Certificate and Barangay Certificate. Hope this week I could get my CENOMAR and passport certification from dfa so that I can proceed with the next step which is RedRibbon and sending all docs to Germany.

Kung and2 na ung asawa ko at dinala nmin sa embassy yung Legal Capacity to Contract Marriage, how long it would take for us to wait to make it legalize? The same day po ba?

Thanks again in advance for anyone who could answer my query. God Bless You all and More Power. This blog helps me a lot. A big thanks for the author and hope the author could write more about life of Filipino's in Germany

my name is emily proksch i am married alredy a german spouse i only wonder that my husband did take all my papers for married i though for visa too so i finish all and i have all to apply the visa the only thing i need to do i finish to study a basic of proof german language. My husband get all my papers like, bith certificate, parents married certificate, all birth certificate of my sisters and brothers,cenomar,form 137,batized that for only a marriege here that he get his legal capacity? and not for visa? i want to make it clear only so this time i need to apply for my visa to go there and live there right thanks please replly me

hi im a pinoy and have a german fiance,and currently processing may papers for my fiance needs to get his legal capacity, im a 25 years old, and i secured a parental advice, one of your requirement listed above is the affidavit for civil status should i secure an affidavit for civil status kahit may CENOMAR n ako n galing city hall?

Hi Jandre,It's been 2.5 years since I wrote this blog. I don't even have the time to check it. Anyway its better to ask the Embassy directly. Rules must have changed over time. This is what I did before also. I ask my questions directly to the embassy.^_^

hello i just want to ask what is affidavit of civil status?because when i got to NSO i ask that and they said that its also CENOMAR..are they the same??and do i still have to get a parental advice even im already 27 years old..kisndy email the answer to amazing_sassy1202@yahoo.com.ph..thank you,i really appreciate it.

hello i just want to ask what is affidavit of civil status?is this the same with CENOMAR??and want to ask also if do i still have to get a parental advice even im 27..and also right do i still have to RED RIBBON THE CENOMAR,BIRTH CERTIFICATE?kindly email me pls to amazing_sassy1202@yahoo.com.ph..thank you.

hello,ask ko lang kung meron agencies na nagpaprocess ng legal capacity to marriage sa GERMANY?My fiance is german national but he's living in spain.Pinakuha nya ko tourist visa but unfortunately the spanish embassy refused it.Is there somebody who can help us?thanks and best regards,marisce

Hello! I am Cherrel... me and my fiance are planning to get married here in the Philippines on the 2nd week of february.. his whole family is coming... but, we have this dilemma... in his place, before he can get his certificate of legal capacity to marry, i should submit all the required documents (original and translated into German).. i sent all the required documents in Germany last Sept. 9, 2011.. the officer there checked the papers and approved them.. then the officer said that the documents will be sent to the German Embassy here in Manila for verification...

But, yesterday (november 27) my fiance received an email from their local office that the embassy wanted me to submit additional documents of my addresses and sketch from 15 yrs old up to present and also 2 passport size pictures... they also send an authorization letter to authorize them to verify my documents...

Now, my fiance and I are worried if the Embassy in Manila would be able to give him his certificate of legal capacity to marry... or if they can still give it to him before January 28, 2012 which is their arrival here in the Philippines...

HI THERE.. I REALY NEED HELP WITH ME AND MY GIRLFRIEND PLEASE HELP US FOR SOME ADVISE HERE IS MY SITUATION1 MY GF IS A FILIPINA BUT THEY MOVE IN GERMANY WHEN SHE WAS 4YRS OLD NOW SHE IS A GERMAN2 SHE WAS NOW DEVORCE TO HER EX HUSBANDPLEASE CAN U GIVE ME AN ADVISE ON HOW WE WILL GET OUR WEDDING KAILANGAN NYA KUMUHA NG LEGAL CAPACITY SA MUNIPAL NILA DB? THEN SHE TOLD ME MY MGA PAPERS AKONG KAILANGAN PADALA SA KANYA WE R REALY SO CONFUSED ABOUT THIS PLEASE HELP US ABOUT THIS THINGS I REALY NEED UR HELP WLA KAMING PAMILYA KAMI 2 LANG ANG NAG AASAHAN AND NG SUSUPORTAHAN SA AMIN WLA KAMING MAHINGIAN NG ADVISE FROM OTHER PEOPLE THANK YOU SO MUCHTHANK U SO MUCHLUNA D.

Guten Tag, my bf and i are planning to get married here in the Phils as soon as he gets his legal capacity to marry in Germany where he resides. May i ask what is the next step are we going to take after he has the LCM, where to go and what to do??? my BF is a divorcee and his divorce papers are in german... are we going to go to the German Embassy in Manila to have it translated and have the Legal Capacity to Marry be certified thereat??? Please help. Thanks

I hope you can give me any idea about the questions that bothers me. I have been to Germany last year to meet my boyfriend there who's that time was only my friend, I am gay, he is also gay and we're both gays. He invited me to visit him last year for just 17 days, as I am still studying in college, since I had no job (kasi nga estudyante ako di ba? kulet?) I used to submit a school certification letter which stating that I am officially enrolled on that semester, August po kasi ako nag-apply and 1st semester po namin yun, and my target dates of stay was October 16 to November 3 which means sembreak lang po talaga ako mawawala, Now, my question is, is the second visa application much easier or more complicated than the first time? If I use again to submit a school certification that I am enrolled in school but will be gone for 90 days, will they consider it as assurance that I will return to my country? my German boyfriend will come with me on my return, maybe presenting our tickets together will help a little, we also have plan to get married, but I don't know if same sex marriage will be honored by the civil registry specially that I'm a foreigner (a Pinoy foreigner) do you know anybody who contracted same sex marriage with a German? thank you so much!

hi pinoy in germany,im glad that you have this site to share your advices and experiences and it helps to enlighten us and gives us hope, but i still need more info to my questions if you have the same dilima as mine:im here in singapore working as a DH, i and my german fiance are agreed to get marry in the phil. this year November 2012.1) can i possibly let my mother to get all my requirements such us the BC,Community tax certificate,and CENOMAR on my behalf by giving my written authorization to her? 2) my fiance is living in lenggries,Bayern do you think getting Ehefähigkeitszeugnis thier doesnt take long?(whoever had the same experience during the time you and your partner processed the ehefähigkeitzeugnis in the same place as my fiance, please dont hesitate to share every helpfull advice will be very appreciated) 3) it is also possible all the documents(in english) that i will send for application of ehefähigkeitszuegnis to my fiance in germany can be translate in deutsch by a translator their in germany before my fiance will submit to the standesamt in Lenggries,bayern?.... this is all the things that bothering me at the moment, i hope you can provide me some advice and knowledge to this matters. with kindly regards, lvm(singapore)

hello i just want to ask..based on the listed requirements needed to be process i have it all, but i want to know what are those requirements i need to translate?do i have to make a step of translation to german first or red ribbon must apply first before translation? :)thankz a lot..please help me.i am processing my papers for ehefähigkeitzeugnis of my finacee in germany.

hello i just want to ask..based on the listed requirements needed to be process i have it all, but i want to know what are those requirements i need to translate?do i have to make a step of translation to german first or red ribbon must apply first before translation? :)thankz a lot..please help me.i am processing my papers for ehefähigkeitzeugnis of my fiancee in germany.Were planning to get married next year here in philippines.so please hope you can help me.

hi im grace from cebu! i just like to ask if the . Joint Affidavit of Civil Status with Red Ribbon from the DFA and the Joint Affidavit of Parental consent are different??? any where should i get the affidavit of civil status here>thank u may i know your email add so that i can contact you!thanks

hello,,glad to find ur site,and i hope you help me in my problem..my fiance can't get legal capacity to there Standesamt reason that his birth year appear on his birth cert is incorrect and also on his divorce paper the date is also incorrect.and the ausländer said he would not gett married unless those problem are fix.is the legal capacity is connected to his birth cert?is he really connot get a legal capacity if that's a problem?

Hello, I'm a Filipina and I have a German fiance. At first, we're planning to get married in Germany as soon as possible and get me a fiance visa so I could live with him as early as we can, but as I was scanning all the posts here I think it's better and easier to apply for a Visa for me when we're already married so we kind of had a sudden change of plan. Now, we're trying to follow the same steps the author has made (basically to get married here in the Philippines first then apply for a spousal visa then go to Germany). We're in the first step now which is to get a Legal Capacity of Marriage for him. And I don't know how to get some of the requirements I should send him for the requirements. Please help me. I dont know where to get these two, Joint Affidavit of Civil Status and Joint Affidavit of Parental Advice.

-Marielle

If possible, and if anyone is willing to help. This is my email add: maieegonzales@yahoo.com. Thank you very much.