"Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason sosimple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it isfalse, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most preciouscommodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- thana bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust bygranting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, butcalculated to undermine any general understanding of science as anenterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.

Post by BobOnly a certain number of people believe there is a God.They have been given that faith by God Himself.The rest have been rejected by God, and predestined for Hell.

Well, Bob, so far your god is a huge fuckup.It created a Hell knowing beforehand that it will put the vast majorityof humans there.

How quickly you forget.That's just your opinion.God does not make mistakes.Hell was made long before humans were created.Hell was not made for humans.Hell is where sins will be punished."Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you cursed,into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.'"(Matthew 25:41)If you end up in Hell, it's your own fault.

Extortion, Believe or Burn, is *THE* foundation of Christianity.

For the non-elect.

You're forgetting that you cannot believe unless God first chooses youto believe, and He only does that for a certain number of people.

If you were placed in the same situation that Adam was in, and told youcould eat from every tree except one, you would have done the samething. You would have eaten that forbidden fruit. So would I. So wouldeveryone else. That's the difficulty, the snag, that's the price we payfor having a freewill.

"Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason sosimple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it isfalse, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most preciouscommodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- thana bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust bygranting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, butcalculated to undermine any general understanding of science as anenterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.

Post by BobSo far, it's just been one opinion against another.No one has any proof to show the others of what theybelieve to be true.

Except that we aren't harping on the subject. You are. Youhave no proof or even any evidence but you keep pretendingthat you do. Chemical reactions are known to occur naturallybut Jesus has not appeared in the sky or even done a simpleinterview.

Post by BobSo far, it's just been one opinion against another.No one has any proof to show the others of what theybelieve to be true.

Except that we aren't harping on the subject. You are. Youhave no proof or even any evidence but you keep pretendingthat you do. Chemical reactions are known to occur naturallybut Jesus has not appeared in the sky or even done a simpleinterview.

...and eventually we'll be able to explain in great detail how thosechemical reactions came together to form living cells. But if weadopted the dead-ended "God did it" bullshit, we'd never even botherto look for the real answers. It's why religion is so toxic. It makespeople stupid...and lazy.

Post by BobSo far, it's just been one opinion against another.No one has any proof to show the others of what theybelieve to be true.

Except that we aren't harping on the subject. You are. Youhave no proof or even any evidence but you keep pretendingthat you do. Chemical reactions are known to occur naturallybut Jesus has not appeared in the sky or even done a simpleinterview.

....and eventually we'll be able to explain in great detail how thosechemical reactions came together to form living cells. But if weadopted the dead-ended "God did it" bullshit, we'd never even botherto look for the real answers. It's why religion is so toxic. It makespeople stupid...and lazy.

That's pure imaginary propaganda. God never stops science. In fact,science is the result of acquiring knowledge from God. Without Godproviding the knowledge, there would never have been any scientificdiscovery because all human knowledge comes from God.

Post by BobSo far, it's just been one opinion against another.No one has any proof to show the others of what theybelieve to be true.

Except that we aren't harping on the subject. You are. Youhave no proof or even any evidence but you keep pretendingthat you do. Chemical reactions are known to occur naturallybut Jesus has not appeared in the sky or even done a simpleinterview.

....and eventually we'll be able to explain in great detail how thosechemical reactions came together to form living cells. But if weadopted the dead-ended "God did it" bullshit, we'd never even botherto look for the real answers. It's why religion is so toxic. It makespeople stupid...and lazy.

That's pure imaginary propaganda. God never stops science. In fact,science is the result of acquiring knowledge from God. Without Godproviding the knowledge, there would never have been any scientificdiscovery because all human knowledge comes from God.

"Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason sosimple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it isfalse, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most preciouscommodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- thana bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust bygranting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, butcalculated to undermine any general understanding of science as anenterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.