Final Fantasy publisher Square Enix has told investors it may announce a loss of about £42 million when it reports on trading for the first half of its financial year.

[Update: Square Enix on Tuesday reported a net loss of £42,730,000]

The group forecasts sales of about £475 million (it's currently tracking £450m), but it expects to report a significant loss when factoring in operating expenses, softness in HD game sales and punishing exchange rates.

As well as a weakened arcade business in Japan, Square Enix admits that "sales of a major HD game title have been growing at a slower pace than expected".
[Update: Square Enix on Tuesday said Sleeping Dogs shipped 1,510,000 copies in the six months ended September 30.]
Though the company did not specify which game, its biggest release this year was the new IPSleeping Dogs, a title which stood atop the UK charts for a number of weeks and, during August, was the best-selling game in the US with 172,000 copies shifted.

Square Enix expects its full year profit to come in at about £27 million.

Time to consider that highly requested FFVIIR... ?!?!?! Even if it was just for Vita/3DS

11-08-2012

DeviousOne

Wow...everyone is losing money well except activision they are getting PAID right now

11-08-2012

TGO

I find it funny how really successful companies who use to release exclusively for one platform or release mostly exclusively are now losing so much money in the multiplatform arena, even though going multiplatform was to make more money
SE aren't the only ones

11-08-2012

MacP

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Originally Posted by TGO

I find it funny how really successful companies who use to release exclusively for one platform or release mostly exclusively are now losing so much money in the multiplatform arena, even though going multiplatform was to make more money
SE aren't the only ones

Operating costs.

11-08-2012

AaronSOLDIER

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Originally Posted by TGO

I find it funny how really successful companies who use to release exclusively for one platform or release mostly exclusively are now losing so much money in the multiplatform arena, even though going multiplatform was to make more money
SE aren't the only ones

Yep, this is why the Yakuza series for example only release on one platform, games like those wouldn't benefit from having a 360 release and would probably end up losing more from porting costs.

11-09-2012

Two4DaMoney

Good. Fuck SE. I want FF13vs damn it.

11-09-2012

DarkVincent07

Maybe they should put more effort into their in-house HD games and make those better and release the games fans want to see.

As far as stuff like Sleeping Dogs goes with SE publishing, those games are usually good

11-09-2012

Metal King Slime

They should probably cut back on the number of games they announce.

11-12-2012

Bio

Quote:

Originally Posted by TGO

I find it funny how really successful companies who use to release exclusively for one platform or release mostly exclusively are now losing so much money in the multiplatform arena, even though going multiplatform was to make more money
SE aren't the only ones

Even more alarming when they bought out other developers too.

11-12-2012

VayMasters86

No FFvsXIII or FF Tactics 2 or a new game in the Chrono series so... F em'!

11-12-2012

Fon

I wonder if their loses has something to do with their investments into next generation?. So far, Eidos has generated quality titles(Well, except Kane&Lynch) - if they keep this up, they can definitely continue their success but I really do want them to finally get their internal studios restructured so that they can pull out the games many of us want.

11-12-2012

DeviousOne

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Originally Posted by FonFahbre

I wonder if their loses has something to do with their investments into next generation?. So far, Eidos has generated quality titles(Well, except Kane&Lynch) - if they keep this up, they can definitely continue their success but I really do want them to finally get their internal studios restructured so that they can pull out the games many of us want.

Idk bro if that was the cause I would think they would mention it somewhere.

I know ea has said they have money put away for the next gen I can't remember the amount.

If I had to guess since I don't work for them lol I would say they set higher goals down the line and have consistently missed them bring them to this loss.

11-12-2012

Fon

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Originally Posted by DeviousOne

Idk bro if that was the cause I would think they would mention it somewhere.

I know ea has said they have money put away for the next gen I can't remember the amount.

If I had to guess since I don't work for them lol I would say they set higher goals down the line and have consistently missed them bring them to this loss.

Square Enix has revealed their next-gen engine along with a long term deal with Epic Games to use their Unreal Engine 4. So it's a no-brainer that they're investing in next generation gaming but the question is how much is it both costing them and the quantity of titles being planned.

This industry has always been secretive so it's normal for them not to announce anything.

11-12-2012

DeviousOne

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Originally Posted by FonFahbre

Square Enix has revealed their next-gen engine along with a long term deal with Epic Games to use their Unreal Engine 4. So it's a no-brainer that they're investing in next generation gaming but the question is how much is it both costing them and the quantity of titles being planned.

This industry has always been secretive so it's normal for them not to announce anything.

We don't get the truth until shit hits the fan. Lol

11-12-2012

TheTenth666

time to disappear into the night, that's what releasing unfinished games (Infinite undiscovery, Last remnant), and killing game license (FFXIII, FFXIII 2) deserves

11-12-2012

Lethal

I think they need to re-evaluate what made Final Fantasy so great in the first place. Final Fantasy VII was damn near perfect and they seemed to keep taking away what was great with each new release. It does not even feel like Final Fantasy anymore. I think they need to bring back the materia system, and the turn based battle system. I used to get excited for FF games, now I just get my body ready for disappointment.

11-12-2012

Bigdoggy

usually this type of thing happens when a company is out of touch from it's gamers. they made a really successful game or at least a few since the PS1 and then they decided to run off the beatin path thinking that their name will drive sales, FF13 as well as their continued mistake of 13-2 is pretty clear.

almost seems like someone on the inside is purposely sabotaging SE. to be really honest, they shouldn't even be in this position but yet they keep on trying to push the same formula and they never learn their lessons, ever. SE & and their failed stubborness could cause a shutdown if they keep on acting stupid and stay out of touch from their gamers.

Also, this company lost a lot of support from their fanbase and SE treated the Playstation fanbase like complete shit. they lied to them, they keep on pushing things farther out their. I honestly believe that FF versus doesn't exist. Square/Enix is a good example of what Developers shouldn't do.

11-12-2012

SHAZZMAZZ

Wow that must hurt epic failure

11-12-2012

Completely Average

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Originally Posted by FonFahbre

I wonder if their loses has something to do with their investments into next generation?. So far, Eidos has generated quality titles(Well, except Kane&Lynch) - if they keep this up, they can definitely continue their success but I really do want them to finally get their internal studios restructured so that they can pull out the games many of us want.

Nah, their losses are MUCH easier to explain than that.

Name the major game that Square/Enix has released in the US adn Europe this year.

You can't make a profit if you aren't releasing any games. No sales = no profits.

11-12-2012

snooper71

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Originally Posted by Completely Average

Nah, their losses are MUCH easier to explain than that.

Name the major game that Square/Enix has released in the US adn Europe this year.

You can't make a profit if you aren't releasing any games. No sales = no profits.

This...

Where is MY Type-0???
The only friggin title, other than VS, that looked remotely good, IMO, since the good old days of SquareSoft!!!

11-12-2012

Typical guy

They need to start putting out good games again. I've got Final Fantasy 13-2 but I got the collector's edition on clearance from Amazon for $22. 13 itself wasn't that great, I wasn't going to pay full price for this one. Lets bring back some quality games. Trying to westernize your JRPG? Forget it.

11-12-2012

Metal King Slime

I'm slowly losing interest in Final Fantasy Versus XIII but only because Nomura and his team haven't shown us anything for a while. Otherwise, I'm really interested in seeing what Hiroyuki Ito and his team are doing with Final Fantasy XV.

11-12-2012

Typical guy

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Originally Posted by Blacksite

I'm slowly losing interest in Final Fantasy Versus XIII but only because Nomura and his team haven't shown us anything for a while. Otherwise, I'm really interested in seeing what Hiroyuki Ito and his team are doing with Final Fantasy XV.

It's looked like vaporware for a while now though they claim it's not. At this rate (if it actually comes out) it might as well be on PS4! Clearly something's going wrong with management or development over there. Most game companies would just kill the project.