Re: Compiling ipfilter for IP19

On 2003-09-18, Joseph Michaud wrote:
> In article ,
> Marek Zawadzki wrote:
>>
>> So I installed sources from the very package, applied diffs included, followed
>> INSTALL.IRIX, but 'make irix' fails:
/...
>> Any thoughts or alternatives for installing ipfilter on
>> "IRIX64 6.5 6.5.20m 04091957 IP19" ?
>
> You'll have to do a bit of work to get it to compile. (Try moving
> the private ipsend/tcpip.h aside and make sure to include tcpip.h
> from netinet whereever specified.)

Why doesn't SGI include some decent _and_ supported firewalling solution in
their OS? It's standard in other *nixes.
Is there any alternative to ipfilter?

-marek

Re: Compiling ipfilter for IP19

In article ,
Marek Zawadzki wrote:
>On 2003-09-18, Joseph Michaud wrote:
>> In article ,
>> Marek Zawadzki wrote:
>>>
>>> So I installed sources from the very package, applied diffs included, followed
>>> INSTALL.IRIX, but 'make irix' fails:
>/...
>>> Any thoughts or alternatives for installing ipfilter on
>>> "IRIX64 6.5 6.5.20m 04091957 IP19" ?
>>
>> You'll have to do a bit of work to get it to compile. (Try moving
>> the private ipsend/tcpip.h aside and make sure to include tcpip.h
>> from netinet whereever specified.)
>
>Thanks, it compiled but kernel panics during network initialization (SOFTWARE
>ERROR).
>I'm not using ipfilter - that's it.
>
>Why doesn't SGI include some decent _and_ supported firewalling solution in
>their OS? It's standard in other *nixes.
>Is there any alternative to ipfilter?

Why don't you just talk to ipfilter's author instead of badmouthing his
work in public? Darren is quite good about answering his mail.

--
Thor Lancelot Simon tls@rek.tjls.com
But as he knew no bad language, he had called him all the names of common
objects that he could think of, and had screamed: "You lamp! You towel! You
plate!" and so on. --Sigmund Freud

Re: Compiling ipfilter for IP19

On 2003-09-29, Thor Lancelot Simon wrote:
> In article ,
> Marek Zawadzki wrote:
/...
>>Thanks, it compiled but kernel panics during network initialization (SOFTWARE
>>ERROR).
>>I'm not using ipfilter - that's it.
>>
>>Why doesn't SGI include some decent _and_ supported firewalling solution in
>>their OS? It's standard in other *nixes.
>>Is there any alternative to ipfilter?
>
> Why don't you just talk to ipfilter's author instead of badmouthing his
> work in public? Darren is quite good about answering his mail.

I'll bite: IRIX is a commercial OS and if they ship software and don't bother
to have it compiled for all 10 or so platforms I call it plain laziness.
They risk incompatibilities in compiler/libraries/etc. across their clients'
systems and then the whole mess goes into the kernel.
The author of ipfilter most probably did a great contribution, but SGI did
not ship it properly as a product, at least in my case.
Oh well, I'll survive, anyway.

-marek

Re: Compiling ipfilter for IP19

In article ,
Marek Zawadzki wrote:
>On 2003-09-29, Thor Lancelot Simon wrote:
>> In article ,
>> Marek Zawadzki wrote:
>/...
>>>Thanks, it compiled but kernel panics during network initialization (SOFTWARE
>>>ERROR).
>>>I'm not using ipfilter - that's it.
>>>
>>>Why doesn't SGI include some decent _and_ supported firewalling solution in
>>>their OS? It's standard in other *nixes.
>>>Is there any alternative to ipfilter?
>>
>> Why don't you just talk to ipfilter's author instead of badmouthing his
>> work in public? Darren is quite good about answering his mail.
>
>I'll bite: IRIX is a commercial OS and if they ship software and don't bother
>to have it compiled for all 10 or so platforms I call it plain laziness.

IP19 is discontinued and on the verge of being desupported (hasn't the
date already been announced)? No processors requiring -mips3 have been
sold by SGI in nearly a decade. I think it's an annoying mistake but
hardly one that is beyond comprehension.

SGI didn't write ipfilter; Darren Reed did. It runs on half a dozen
widely different Unix platforms. In fact, I'm pretty sure he started
porting it to Irix on the machine you first used Irix on, yourself,
which is an amusing coincidence. If what you're after is a working
ipfilter installation, instead of an opportunity to vent about SGI
(mind you, I have been known to vent about SGI in this newsgroup myself
from time to time!) you can probably get somewhere by talking to Darren.

--
Thor Lancelot Simon tls@rek.tjls.com
But as he knew no bad language, he had called him all the names of common
objects that he could think of, and had screamed: "You lamp! You towel! You
plate!" and so on. --Sigmund Freud