i noticed that Pep's City doesn't like being attacked.The teams that have attacked City fearlessly this season have caused them lots of problems and got lots of joy, starting with Celtic in the group stages that was the first sign.

The game against Liverpool this Sunday should be fun to watch.

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Anyway, this loss is squarely on naive Pep tactics. Defending is part of the game. You take a 2 goal lead to France yet you start only one recognized central midfielder while allowing Yaya to rot on the bench. Wharraheck. He could've helped to shore up the midfield and also help defend aerial set plays. Na wa.

I don't know that defending or lack thereof was necessarily the key issue in the loss. For me it was clearly the inability to convert the chances created. And there were a legion of them...

_________________Form is temporary; Class is Permanent! Liverpool, European Champions 2005.

We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp

Anyway, this loss is squarely on naive Pep tactics. Defending is part of the game. You take a 2 goal lead to France yet you start only one recognized central midfielder while allowing Yaya to rot on the bench. Wharraheck. He could've helped to shore up the midfield and also help defend aerial set plays. Na wa.

I don't know that defending or lack thereof was necessarily the key issue in the loss. For me it was clearly the inability to convert the chances created. And there were a legion of them...

The presumption is had they scored one of the missed chances, they would've kept scoring but that's theory and not reality. In reality, when they did score, Monaco took over the initiative and eventually scored the winning goal. What could've happened is not bankable. What's bankable though, is what you already have or had on the score board like the 5 goals from leg 1 and the 1 goal last night before they scored the third. In both of those bankable situations, City was in the driver's seat and in control of their destiny.

This is CL. There are no easy opponents at this level of the competition. Yaya played well in the first leg and even though Pep initially started with an attacking plan - which I understand because its his philosophy, and even though I disagree with his approach, Yaya wasn't an option when they were down and chasing the game at 0-2 but he could and should have brought on Yaya after they had finally managed to battle back and edge ahead on away goals rule with less than 20 mins left. Generally, when teams are holding onto a slim lead with less than 20mins left against a difficult opponent (especially away from home), the manager tightens up the remaining midfield gaps with subs with further consideration on defending set pieces and obvious desperate aerial balls that are lumped in the box with the clock winding down. All the winning manger do this including many that have an attacking philosophy. This one is mostly on Pep and I'm far from his biggest critic but he & City didn't have to go out like this. They should be in the QF.

For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding...hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe

Anyway, this loss is squarely on naive Pep tactics. Defending is part of the game. You take a 2 goal lead to France yet you start only one recognized central midfielder while allowing Yaya to rot on the bench. Wharraheck. He could've helped to shore up the midfield and also help defend aerial set plays. Na wa.

I don't know that defending or lack thereof was necessarily the key issue in the loss. For me it was clearly the inability to convert the chances created. And there were a legion of them...

Because Monaco didn't have "a legion of chances" that they could have scored from, right?

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For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding...hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe

Anyway, this loss is squarely on naive Pep tactics. Defending is part of the game. You take a 2 goal lead to France yet you start only one recognized central midfielder while allowing Yaya to rot on the bench. Wharraheck. He could've helped to shore up the midfield and also help defend aerial set plays. Na wa.

I don't know that defending or lack thereof was necessarily the key issue in the loss. For me it was clearly the inability to convert the chances created. And there were a legion of them...

Because Monaco didn't have "a legion of chances" that they could have scored from, right?

No mind am.

I swear these stans are so blinded by The Revolution.

When he wins it's tactical revolution and pure jizzing, when he's outcoached it's the players fault

And English pundits would have us think the french League is weak and rubbish. They certainly play very exciting and attacking football

Pep, genius my foot All very well to step into a redy made outfit like Barcelona. At Bayern bayern regressed under him. Now at City he has reached a new low

Source?

_________________TOUCH NOT MY ANOINTED...

Quote:

For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding...hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe

Anyway, this loss is squarely on naive Pep tactics. Defending is part of the game. You take a 2 goal lead to France yet you start only one recognized central midfielder while allowing Yaya to rot on the bench. Wharraheck. He could've helped to shore up the midfield and also help defend aerial set plays. Na wa.

I don't know that defending or lack thereof was necessarily the key issue in the loss. For me it was clearly the inability to convert the chances created. And there were a legion of them...

The presumption is had they scored one of the missed chances, they would've kept scoring but that's theory and not reality. In reality, when they did score, Monaco took over the initiative and eventually scored the winning goal. What could've happened is not bankable. What's bankable though, is what you already have or had on the score board like the 5 goals from leg 1 and the 1 goal last night before they scored the third. In both of those bankable situations, City was in the driver's seat and in control of their destiny.

This is CL. There are no easy opponents at this level of the competition. Yaya played well in the first leg and even though Pep initially started with an attacking plan - which I understand because its his philosophy, and even though I disagree with his approach, Yaya wasn't an option when they were down and chasing the game at 0-2 but he could and should have brought on Yaya after they had finally managed to battle back and edge ahead on away goals rule with less than 20 mins left. Generally, when teams are holding onto a slim lead with less than 20mins left against a difficult opponent (especially away from home), the manager tightens up the remaining midfield gaps with subs with further consideration on defending set pieces and obvious desperate aerial balls that are lumped in the box with the clock winding down. All the winning manger do this including many that have an attacking philosophy. This one is mostly on Pep and I'm far from his biggest critic but he & City didn't have to go out like this. They should be in the QF.

I understand your point but I'm analyzing the game as it played out, not how it SHOULD HAVE.

And based on how it played out, the key issue was the missed chances.

_________________Form is temporary; Class is Permanent! Liverpool, European Champions 2005.

We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp

And English pundits would have us think the french League is weak and rubbish. They certainly play very exciting and attacking football

Pep, genius my foot All very well to step into a redy made outfit like Barcelona. At Bayern bayern regressed under him. Now at City he has reached a new low

Source?

Just about every one of them; including the EPL fans who follow them...

_________________Form is temporary; Class is Permanent! Liverpool, European Champions 2005.

We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp

And English pundits would have us think the french League is weak and rubbish. They certainly play very exciting and attacking football

Pep, genius my foot All very well to step into a redy made outfit like Barcelona. At Bayern bayern regressed under him. Now at City he has reached a new low

Source?

Just about every one of them; including the EPL fans who follow them...

When you ask an impotent man how many children he has, he says many.

_________________TOUCH NOT MY ANOINTED...

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For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding...hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe

You are played a team that is pressing you, and here you are passing at the back

Do these NDL coaches scout their opponents?

Paris SG did this against Barcelona and I was told that it was their playing style. Meanwhile Rabiot, Veratti and Matuidi kept losing the ball right in front of their 18. Irritating!! Spurs does it sometimes and Dier, slow coach Dier, gets caught out.

_________________"Will we next create false gods to rule over us? How proud have we become, and how blind."

And English pundits would have us think the french League is weak and rubbish. They certainly play very exciting and attacking football

Pep, genius my foot All very well to step into a redy made outfit like Barcelona. At Bayern bayern regressed under him. Now at City he has reached a new low

Source?

Just about every one of them; including the EPL fans who follow them...

When you ask an impotent man how many children he has, he says many.

I apologize that I cannot respond to the above as I lack your experience in the matter heretofore...

_________________Form is temporary; Class is Permanent! Liverpool, European Champions 2005.

We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp

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And English pundits would have us think the french League is weak and rubbish. They certainly play very exciting and attacking football

Pep, genius my foot All very well to step into a redy made outfit like Barcelona. At Bayern bayern regressed under him. Now at City he has reached a new low

Source?

Just about every one of them; including the EPL fans who follow them...

When you ask an impotent man how many children he has, he says many.

I apologize that I cannot respond to the above as I lack your experience in the matter heretofore...

When a candidate gets challenged or stuck with an examination question, the candidate begins to look upwards as if the answer is printed in the ceiling.

_________________TOUCH NOT MY ANOINTED...

Quote:

For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding...hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe

This Monaco team is full of fast players. Man City cant keep up. I now see how Thierry Henry played for them. They seem to breed fast players

Monaco has been a speed track for years!. Remember when they played a two-winged striker system leveraging Henry on one side of the wing and Ikpeba on the other!. Ikpeba then was known as "king of Monaco". The two will cut in from the wings with speed and both had goal scoring ability