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So are Carbonsports indirectly admitting that heat build-up on Standard-C's is in fact a problem, or that the brake surfaces wear out? If not, 100g is a lot to add (10%) for a problem that doesnt need addressing.

Having a pair of Standard C's on order and expecting delivery within a week or so, you could say I have a vested interest.

Interesting...I've had zero problems with heat buildup on mine and I use them on some pretty long/steep descents. 7% for 11+ miles with peaks in the 10-12% are regular. Two years now and they're great. My only real complaint is mounting a tire on them can be a process in pain and cursing.

Which tyre do you use? I mounted Continental GP4000S and was shocked how easy it was -- how could the tyre stay on the rim if there was no force necessary to get them on? The inner diameter of the tyre seems to be bigger than the outer diameter of the rim.

BTW: so far I don't have any problems wrt braking either; maybe those enhancements are for people who are closer to the weight limit?

I have them for 2 years now too.And ok it's not an all day wheelset.But in combination with th eLightweigth brakepads, I haven't had any problems so for.Brakepads are good, don't wear wvery much.And I've done big mountain rides like L aMarmotte with them too.

My only thought is that a set of Enve 45 clinchers with Tune 150 & 45 hubs & cx-ray spokes will run about.....

1290gm (amd maybe 1280 even) so.... I start to wonder...

Don't get me wrong, I think they are great wheels, but with some of their reparability and accessability issues adding weight is making them less of a "Lighweight" wheel. Which is thier main draw.

I know they are "great wheels" but thier name is Lightweight........

(and yes that is a pretty light clincher, but it isn't what is used to be, when I can get an enve set just about the same weight)

I'm not trying to be overly critical, I'm just putting their pros (weight, ride quality) along side thier cons(accessabiblity, and repairability....and yes thay can be repaired, but you will have to mail them somewhere and it will take some time..in the U.S. at least)

And don't get me wrong, I am planning on getting some Obermayers, soon.

(and I have to admit, that is a very light clincher for a wheelset that can carry a "clydesdale" rider...but with disc brakes all this will be "moot")(not that I like the idea of disc brakes either)

Last edited by carbon2329 on Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Your same argument could be applied to the tubulars as well. Similar or even heavier than a comparable set of Enve's laced up with a light hub. They may not be as stiff, so be it....they will likely be close to twice the cost.