Got plenty of thumb cuffs.That is not the kind of thing you would use if you want your captive to be willing to try more bondage.Thumb cuffs also don't work for any length of time because to be secure, they have to be tight enough to pretty much cut off circulation.Modern handcuffs do work well enough, but many of the antique and more interesting collector pieces do not hold her.

Stahlketten wrote:On a semi-related note,How do guards handle prisoner that need a bathroom break when the are wearing handcuffs and a waist chain with or without a black box? What if the prisoner is female?

I don't know but I assume that using handcuffs and a waist chain is just for transporting prisoners using non-secure transport. Such transport should only be for short distances and, hopefully, a supervised comfort break would be allowed before the transit.

For longer trips (and I am thinking "Con Air"), supervised comfort breaks could be supervised for either sex.

For a court appearance, the practice seems to be to apply transport chains at the jail and to keep the prisoner in those chains until returning to the jail in the evening.After the last post, I did a search for descriptions of prisoner transport and what I found is that there are a lot of cross country trips with chained prisoners and these trips sometimes go as long as two weeks in a van with just scheduled restroom and fast food breaks. If you need to go before a rest stop.... Things can get pretty disgusting. Sometimes they just hose out the van before the next batch of passengers.It seems like all the escapes happen during restroom breaks, so at least some of the chains probably come off at those times.

Like you, I have this fantasy. I actually found an abandoned prison in Georgia. Seriously, there is a couple abandoned prisons in Hardwick, Georgia. I know, appropriately named, right. The one that I picked was Frank Scott State Prison, you can Google it. The first time, I just explored a bit but I went back a few more times. Each time getting more daring. Once I changed out of my male clothes and explored wearing black tights, a black sweater dress, and black tennis shoes. The next time, I wore suntan pantyhose, red pumps, and a red mini-dress. There are some areas with barred doors but it isn’t like cell blocks. I did find a couple cells in one building.

My fourth adventure there, was my greatest. I really wanted to involve self-bondage along with crossdressing. Now, I didn’t want someone finding me, so I secured the entrance to the area that I was in with a chain and padlock. There was only one way in. I changed into the outfit that I had picked. Pink tights, a black jumper, and black pumps with ankle straps. For good measure, I used zip ties to make sure that I couldn’t remove the shoes and I ziptied the jumpers belt closed. They were not coming off. The wire cutters were in a box that has a combination lock along with a handcuff key. The barred door had a flap area that trays were passed through at one time. I zip tied the box to that so it couldn’t fall. I checked that I could see the combination, and I could. I zip tied my legs together at the ankles, below the knee, and above the knee. I gagged myself with a ballgag. Then, I ran a pair of handcuffs through the jumper’s belt and cuffed my wrists in front of me. I was stuck for the night, it was now too dark to see the numbers on the combination lock.

I spent some of the night in a sitting position and some in a laying position. My hands could reach the top two zip ties on my legs and I did manage to get the one below the knee to slide down my legs but the one above wouldn’t move and I couldn’t reach the one on my ankles. The zip ties bit into my legs but there was nothing that I could do. I actually fell asleep sometime during the night. When I awoke it was daylight. I managed get to the door and up onto my feet. After many failed attempts I got the box open and removed the cutters. I cut that zip tie on my thighs before I even tried to use the key on the cuffs.

It was an awesome night. I do not know what I want to do for my next adventure there but I want to go back. Sooner or later it will be torn down.

I did Google it and, apparently, there is still a correction facility in Hardwick named for Frank Scott. I also Googled if the Frank Scott State Prison was for sale -- what an incredible place to live or run as an hotel (for people with special interests). However, Google had no answer for me ...

Frank Scott State Prison and Rivers State Prison are both abandoned in Hardwick. Rivers the front door of Rivers North is literally wide open. I have explored it but was not too keen on doing anything fetish there because of how open it was and easily accessible. Just up the street is the three building abandoned prison of Frank Scott State Prison. Scott has three buildings. Kemper, Ingraham, and Holley. I have explored it extensively. The front of the prison’s gates are locked but there are several places in the back where it is possible to get onto the grounds; a missing gate, down section of fence, and a big hole under the fence.

Once on the grounds, there are entrances to the buildings that are closed but the locks are open. This place was not a high security prison when it was open, probably a medium level prison. I was told that there were five prisons there that were abandoned but found that one, Baldwin State Prison has been bulldozed completely flat, and another one Men’s State Prison is still operating. I never found the 5th one.

There is also a prison up here in the Atlanta area called Metro State Prison. But when I drove there, I could not see any way to get in and there is a lot of traffic in the area. That one actually sounded really interesting because it used to house the female prisoners that were on death row. I always thought that bondage and abandoned prisons really went together.