And I think that’s the risk that certainly some people is like trying to keep to the speed limit, if they’re looking at the speed on the dial, you’re going to forget where you’re actually driving and crash into something.

So yes, I think it’s very easy to get stuck in that, in the detail and forget. Every now and again you need to take a few moments and stocktake where you’re actually heading and what you’re trying to achieve with your asset management process.

Ross:

Yeah, certainly, Grant, the, one of the things that you don’t want to do is be so focused on this management process that you forget to deliver service. I mean at the end of the day, you own or have assets that you’re managing to deliver some sort of service to some sort of community or authority.

And so asset management should be a process and a journey of change and improvement, not one of paralysis, in the old story paralysis by analysis. You do have to keep delivering your service. You know once you get started in this journey it’s not going to be perfect.

But it’s not a sprint. It’s a journey, a longer term walk to a direction. And once you get into that, then you start setting up the milestones for changes as you go forward.

Grant:

And that’s a good reminder of that custodian role, isn’t it? The asset managers have where they’re looking after community assets and planning for their future.

For the long-term, to make sure the services delivered in a sustainable way both for the current generations and for those to come. So that custodian role is very much around ensuring that you’ve got that, the long game in mind about you getting the job done that you need to do now.