From tangleball.computer at gmail.com Tue Jan 1 20:14:30 2019
From: tangleball.computer at gmail.com (Tangleball Computer)
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2019 20:14:30 +1300
Subject: [Discussion] meeting minutes New Years Day
Message-ID:
Meeting minutes, 2019-01-01
Pre-meeting
===========
facilitator: Jort
minutes: Wayne
board operator: Robin
greeters: Ed
Pre-hack
========
None.
Accounts
========
$288 collected, 22 membership weeks. Rent and internet bill this week.
Actions from last week:
=================
List vending machine - Ed. Done. Being relisted with a lower reserve.
Events
======
Wednesday workshop, on hiatus.
22 January, Annual General Meeting
Quick Announcements
===================
None.
General Discussion
==================
Getting rid of stuff. The idea was floated of selling stuff off, and
starting soon as time is getting short. People who own tools and that
don't come in very often should start taking them home. Members should be
clearing out their member spaces. Please update the wiki regarding getting
rid of things. Robin will contact Tumeke and find out what their plans
are.
Jort has bid $100 for the large CNC machine with router. A walkthrough was
done with various items earmarked for disposal.
Long Discussion
===============
None
What's this thing
=================
Stuff in former members spaces.
Hat List
============
Tanglebuilding $289.60
Dust extractor: $156.55
Weekly general meeting
======================
Meeting Review
==============
There were no arguements
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From robin at bumblepuppy.org Mon Jan 14 16:39:27 2019
From: robin at bumblepuppy.org (Robin Paulson)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 16:39:27 +1300
Subject: [Discussion] missing things from tangle ball
Message-ID:
in the last couple of days, i've noticed things going missing from
tangle ball. previously, members have taken tools for short periods,
after which they are returned, but i'm guessing that won't happen this
time. as of today, both the yellow quick clamps and half (yes, half) of
the cnc mill plus associated router and computer are missing. there
could well be more i or others haven't noticed.
any suggestions/admissions? please be careful before accusing anybody.
--
robin
From mrdeee at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 16:49:04 2019
From: mrdeee at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?QW5kcmV3IERpeG9u?=)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 06:49:04 +0300
Subject: [Discussion] =?utf-8?q?missing_things_from_tangle_ball?=
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <1547437744.430435355@f8.my.com>
as agreed and confirmed at last weeks meeting i have taken the following previously donated items.
2 pairs sash clamps (big metal ones not the quick clamps)
1 power plane
the metal shelves
Sent from myMail for iOS
Tuesday, 15 January 2019, 02:39 +1300 from Robin Paulson :
>in the last couple of days, i've noticed things going missing from
>tangle ball. previously, members have taken tools for short periods,
>after which they are returned, but i'm guessing that won't happen this
>time. as of today, both the yellow quick clamps and half (yes, half) of
>the cnc mill plus associated router and computer are missing. there
>could well be more i or others haven't noticed.
>
>any suggestions/admissions? please be careful before accusing anybody.
>
>--
>robin
>_______________________________________________
>Discussion mailing list
>Discussion at tangleball.org.nz
>http://www.tangleball.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/discussion
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From wayne.the.rooney at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 17:07:37 2019
From: wayne.the.rooney at gmail.com (Wayne Rooney)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 17:07:37 +1300
Subject: [Discussion] missing things from tangle ball
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <2318940.umfc1voUWP@homepc>
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 16:39:27 Robin Paulson wrote:
> in the last couple of days, i've noticed things going missing from
> tangle ball. previously, members have taken tools for short periods,
> after which they are returned, but i'm guessing that won't happen this
> time. as of today, both the yellow quick clamps and half (yes, half) of
> the cnc mill plus associated router and computer are missing. there
> could well be more i or others haven't noticed.
>
> any suggestions/admissions? please be careful before accusing anybody.
I believe Jort has put in a bid for the larger cnc machine and accessories and
was okayed to move it with the idea he will turn it over to anyone who outbids
him. Perhaps he has started to move it.
I believe that Peter had organised with his brother (brother-in-law?) to come
in over last weekend and move out his machinery. The table saw, mill drill,
large bench grinder, thicknesser and compressor are Peter's and you might find
them gone.
Peter contacted me and asked me if he could swap his compressor for my drop
saw, which I have agreed to. So the drop saw may also now be gone, and the
compressor and some air hoses and stuff left for me to collect on Tuesday.
I had intended to leave the drop saw there a bit longer but then this deal was
struck, I will try and bring in another drop saw on Tuesday to see out the
month, and possibly the small table saw also, if you think that will help.
HTH,
Wayne
PS, don't know anything about the quick clamps, the 1800mm sash cramps were
Peter's. Also was looking for the angle grinder last Tuesday and couldn't
find it.
From robin at bumblepuppy.org Tue Jan 15 11:27:13 2019
From: robin at bumblepuppy.org (Robin Paulson)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 11:27:13 +1300
Subject: [Discussion] missing things from tangle ball
In-Reply-To: <2318940.umfc1voUWP@homepc>
References:
<2318940.umfc1voUWP@homepc>
Message-ID: <66f9ba60f215b0400ce6b46f0023885e@bumblepuppy.org>
On 2019-01-14 17:07, Wayne Rooney wrote:
> I believe Jort has put in a bid for the larger cnc machine and
> accessories and
> was okayed to move it with the idea he will turn it over to anyone who
> outbids
> him. Perhaps he has started to move it.
>
> I believe that Peter had organised with his brother (brother-in-law?)
> to come
> in over last weekend and move out his machinery. The table saw, mill
> drill,
> large bench grinder, thicknesser and compressor are Peter's and you
> might find
> them gone.
>
> Peter contacted me and asked me if he could swap his compressor for my
> drop
> saw, which I have agreed to. So the drop saw may also now be gone, and
> the
> compressor and some air hoses and stuff left for me to collect on
> Tuesday.
>
> I had intended to leave the drop saw there a bit longer but then this
> deal was
> struck, I will try and bring in another drop saw on Tuesday to see out
> the
> month, and possibly the small table saw also, if you think that will
> help.
>
> HTH,
>
> Wayne
>
> PS, don't know anything about the quick clamps, the 1800mm sash cramps
> were
> Peter's. Also was looking for the angle grinder last Tuesday and
> couldn't
> find it.
ed told me about the deals between you and peter, so that was accounted
for and yes they are gone. i was murky on what jort had said/agreed to,
perhaps you have answered the question i had.
the angle grinder is still missing, although i found the accessories...
personally, i don't think bringing in a drop saw and table saw are that
important for the remaining two weeks, but it's up to you. the offer is
appreciated though.
--
robin
From tangleball.computer at gmail.com Tue Jan 15 19:53:33 2019
From: tangleball.computer at gmail.com (Tangleball Computer)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 19:53:33 +1300
Subject: [Discussion] meeting minutes 15 January
Message-ID:
Meeting minutes, 2019-01-15
Pre-meeting
===========
facilitator: Peter
minutes: Wayne
board operator: Robin
greeters: Jort
Pre-hack
========
None.
Accounts
========
$323 collected, 18 membership weeks. Paid the electricity this week.
Actions from last week:
=================
List vending machine - Ed. Done. Being relisted with a lower reserve.
Events
======
Wednesday workshop, on hiatus.
22 January, Annual General Meeting
Quick Announcements
===================
None.
General Discussion
==================
Getting rid of stuff: List the Tangleball closing on Facebook and Meetup
and encourage people to come in and take their stuff away.
Robin led a discussion on the disposal of the power hand tools. Options
are to sell them, donate them to another makerspace, store them until the
opening of Tangleball II.
Hiring a skip: It will cost $350 for a 9m3 skip, that we get for 4 days
without negotiation. The dates 25, 26, 27, 28 January were chosen for the
first skip, which is a Friday through Monday.
Hackland have said they will take any woodworking tools and shelves.
Next Tuesday is "members buy things" day - Robin
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From joran.k at gmail.com Tue Jan 15 23:01:41 2019
From: joran.k at gmail.com (Joran Kikke)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 23:01:41 +1300
Subject: [Discussion] meeting minutes 15 January
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
We can also store Tangleball stuff at Hackland until Tangleball II starts
again, just label it all
On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 19:53 Tangleball Computer <
tangleball.computer at gmail.com> wrote:
> Meeting minutes, 2019-01-15
>
> Pre-meeting
> ===========
> facilitator: Peter
> minutes: Wayne
> board operator: Robin
> greeters: Jort
>
> Pre-hack
> ========
> None.
>
> Accounts
> ========
> $323 collected, 18 membership weeks. Paid the electricity this week.
>
> Actions from last week:
> =================
> List vending machine - Ed. Done. Being relisted with a lower reserve.
>
> Events
> ======
> Wednesday workshop, on hiatus.
> 22 January, Annual General Meeting
>
> Quick Announcements
> ===================
> None.
>
> General Discussion
> ==================
> Getting rid of stuff: List the Tangleball closing on Facebook and Meetup
> and encourage people to come in and take their stuff away.
>
> Robin led a discussion on the disposal of the power hand tools. Options
> are to sell them, donate them to another makerspace, store them until the
> opening of Tangleball II.
>
> Hiring a skip: It will cost $350 for a 9m3 skip, that we get for 4 days
> without negotiation. The dates 25, 26, 27, 28 January were chosen for the
> first skip, which is a Friday through Monday.
>
> Hackland have said they will take any woodworking tools and shelves.
>
> Next Tuesday is "members buy things" day - Robin
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discussion mailing list
> Discussion at tangleball.org.nz
> http://www.tangleball.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/discussion
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From spielburg99 at gmail.com Thu Jan 17 21:31:06 2019
From: spielburg99 at gmail.com (Calvin Rainey)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 21:31:06 +1300
Subject: [Discussion] missing things from tangle ball
In-Reply-To: <66f9ba60f215b0400ce6b46f0023885e@bumblepuppy.org>
References:
<2318940.umfc1voUWP@homepc> <66f9ba60f215b0400ce6b46f0023885e@bumblepuppy.org>
Message-ID:
I'll be in to pick up my little blue vice that is bolted to the circular
cable drum table. Some time before TB closes.
Cheers CK.
On Tuesday, January 15, 2019, Robin Paulson wrote:
> On 2019-01-14 17:07, Wayne Rooney wrote:
>
>> I believe Jort has put in a bid for the larger cnc machine and
>> accessories and
>> was okayed to move it with the idea he will turn it over to anyone who
>> outbids
>> him. Perhaps he has started to move it.
>>
>> I believe that Peter had organised with his brother (brother-in-law?) to
>> come
>> in over last weekend and move out his machinery. The table saw, mill
>> drill,
>> large bench grinder, thicknesser and compressor are Peter's and you might
>> find
>> them gone.
>>
>> Peter contacted me and asked me if he could swap his compressor for my
>> drop
>> saw, which I have agreed to. So the drop saw may also now be gone, and
>> the
>> compressor and some air hoses and stuff left for me to collect on Tuesday.
>>
>> I had intended to leave the drop saw there a bit longer but then this
>> deal was
>> struck, I will try and bring in another drop saw on Tuesday to see out the
>> month, and possibly the small table saw also, if you think that will help.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>> PS, don't know anything about the quick clamps, the 1800mm sash cramps
>> were
>> Peter's. Also was looking for the angle grinder last Tuesday and couldn't
>> find it.
>>
>
> ed told me about the deals between you and peter, so that was accounted
> for and yes they are gone. i was murky on what jort had said/agreed to,
> perhaps you have answered the question i had.
>
> the angle grinder is still missing, although i found the accessories...
>
> personally, i don't think bringing in a drop saw and table saw are that
> important for the remaining two weeks, but it's up to you. the offer is
> appreciated though.
>
> --
> robin
> _______________________________________________
> Discussion mailing list
> Discussion at tangleball.org.nz
> http://www.tangleball.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/discussion
>
--
Calvin Rainey
0212033650
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From phoneofed at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 00:31:14 2019
From: phoneofed at gmail.com (PhoneOf Ed)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 00:31:14 +1300
Subject: [Discussion] missing things from tangle ball
In-Reply-To:
References:
<2318940.umfc1voUWP@homepc> <66f9ba60f215b0400ce6b46f0023885e@bumblepuppy.org>
Message-ID:
It comes with the drum.
On 17/01/2019 9:31 PM, "Calvin Rainey" wrote:
I'll be in to pick up my little blue vice that is bolted to the circular
cable drum table. Some time before TB closes.
Cheers CK.
On Tuesday, January 15, 2019, Robin Paulson wrote:
> On 2019-01-14 17:07, Wayne Rooney wrote:
>
>> I believe Jort has put in a bid for the larger cnc machine and
>> accessories and
>> was okayed to move it with the idea he will turn it over to anyone who
>> outbids
>> him. Perhaps he has started to move it.
>>
>> I believe that Peter had organised with his brother (brother-in-law?) to
>> come
>> in over last weekend and move out his machinery. The table saw, mill
>> drill,
>> large bench grinder, thicknesser and compressor are Peter's and you might
>> find
>> them gone.
>>
>> Peter contacted me and asked me if he could swap his compressor for my
>> drop
>> saw, which I have agreed to. So the drop saw may also now be gone, and
>> the
>> compressor and some air hoses and stuff left for me to collect on Tuesday.
>>
>> I had intended to leave the drop saw there a bit longer but then this
>> deal was
>> struck, I will try and bring in another drop saw on Tuesday to see out the
>> month, and possibly the small table saw also, if you think that will help.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>> PS, don't know anything about the quick clamps, the 1800mm sash cramps
>> were
>> Peter's. Also was looking for the angle grinder last Tuesday and couldn't
>> find it.
>>
>
> ed told me about the deals between you and peter, so that was accounted
> for and yes they are gone. i was murky on what jort had said/agreed to,
> perhaps you have answered the question i had.
>
> the angle grinder is still missing, although i found the accessories...
>
> personally, i don't think bringing in a drop saw and table saw are that
> important for the remaining two weeks, but it's up to you. the offer is
> appreciated though.
>
> --
> robin
> _______________________________________________
> Discussion mailing list
> Discussion at tangleball.org.nz
> http://www.tangleball.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/discussion
>
--
Calvin Rainey
0212033650
_______________________________________________
Discussion mailing list
Discussion at tangleball.org.nz
http://www.tangleball.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/discussion
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From spielburg99 at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 10:18:00 2019
From: spielburg99 at gmail.com (Calvin Rainey)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 10:18:00 +1300
Subject: [Discussion] missing things from tangle ball
In-Reply-To:
References:
<2318940.umfc1voUWP@homepc> <66f9ba60f215b0400ce6b46f0023885e@bumblepuppy.org>
Message-ID:
Lol... I like the optimism.
See you on tge weekend at some stage.
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 00:31 PhoneOf Ed wrote:
> It comes with the drum.
>
>
> On 17/01/2019 9:31 PM, "Calvin Rainey" wrote:
>
> I'll be in to pick up my little blue vice that is bolted to the circular
> cable drum table. Some time before TB closes.
>
> Cheers CK.
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 15, 2019, Robin Paulson wrote:
>
>> On 2019-01-14 17:07, Wayne Rooney wrote:
>>
>>> I believe Jort has put in a bid for the larger cnc machine and
>>> accessories and
>>> was okayed to move it with the idea he will turn it over to anyone who
>>> outbids
>>> him. Perhaps he has started to move it.
>>>
>>> I believe that Peter had organised with his brother (brother-in-law?) to
>>> come
>>> in over last weekend and move out his machinery. The table saw, mill
>>> drill,
>>> large bench grinder, thicknesser and compressor are Peter's and you
>>> might find
>>> them gone.
>>>
>>> Peter contacted me and asked me if he could swap his compressor for my
>>> drop
>>> saw, which I have agreed to. So the drop saw may also now be gone, and
>>> the
>>> compressor and some air hoses and stuff left for me to collect on
>>> Tuesday.
>>>
>>> I had intended to leave the drop saw there a bit longer but then this
>>> deal was
>>> struck, I will try and bring in another drop saw on Tuesday to see out
>>> the
>>> month, and possibly the small table saw also, if you think that will
>>> help.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>> PS, don't know anything about the quick clamps, the 1800mm sash cramps
>>> were
>>> Peter's. Also was looking for the angle grinder last Tuesday and
>>> couldn't
>>> find it.
>>>
>>
>> ed told me about the deals between you and peter, so that was accounted
>> for and yes they are gone. i was murky on what jort had said/agreed to,
>> perhaps you have answered the question i had.
>>
>> the angle grinder is still missing, although i found the accessories...
>>
>> personally, i don't think bringing in a drop saw and table saw are that
>> important for the remaining two weeks, but it's up to you. the offer is
>> appreciated though.
>>
>> --
>> robin
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discussion mailing list
>> Discussion at tangleball.org.nz
>> http://www.tangleball.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/discussion
>>
>
>
> --
> Calvin Rainey
> 0212033650
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discussion mailing list
> Discussion at tangleball.org.nz
> http://www.tangleball.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/discussion
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discussion mailing list
> Discussion at tangleball.org.nz
> http://www.tangleball.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/discussion
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From wayne.the.rooney at gmail.com Sat Jan 19 21:42:26 2019
From: wayne.the.rooney at gmail.com (Wayne Rooney)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2019 21:42:26 +1300
Subject: [Discussion] meeting minutes 15 January
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <140722021.uNykrF0Qj3@homepc>
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 23:01:41 Joran Kikke wrote:
> We can also store Tangleball stuff at Hackland until Tangleball II starts
> again, just label it all
Thanks.
Do stop by and check out the shelving, etc.
Jort has access to a trailer and Will has a towbar on his car and they have
offered to help a bit with the shelves.
Wayne
From robin at bumblepuppy.org Fri Jan 25 16:08:09 2019
From: robin at bumblepuppy.org (Robin Paulson)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 16:08:09 +1300
Subject: [Discussion] the skip
Message-ID:
we had a minor logistical problem today: the skip company delivered the
skip to the wrong suburb. sigh.
apparently they will try again very early tomorrow. this is not great
and is annoying particularly for me, but does not make the task
impossible.
--
robin
From wayne.the.rooney at gmail.com Fri Jan 25 20:32:55 2019
From: wayne.the.rooney at gmail.com (Wayne Rooney)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 20:32:55 +1300
Subject: [Discussion] the skip
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <3152660.vKdNxRv9zi@homepc>
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 16:08:09 Robin Paulson wrote:
> we had a minor logistical problem today: the skip company delivered the
> skip to the wrong suburb. sigh.
>
> apparently they will try again very early tomorrow. this is not great
> and is annoying particularly for me, but does not make the task
> impossible.
Central City, I told them on the application form.
Wayne
From karsten at sperling.co.nz Sat Jan 26 15:26:21 2019
From: karsten at sperling.co.nz (Karsten Sperling)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 15:26:21 +1300
Subject: [Discussion] the skip
In-Reply-To: <3152660.vKdNxRv9zi@homepc>
References:
<3152660.vKdNxRv9zi@homepc>
Message-ID:
What's happening with the "empty Tangleball" event?
On Fri, Jan 25, 2019, 20:37 Wayne Rooney On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 16:08:09 Robin Paulson wrote:
> > we had a minor logistical problem today: the skip company delivered the
> > skip to the wrong suburb. sigh.
> >
> > apparently they will try again very early tomorrow. this is not great
> > and is annoying particularly for me, but does not make the task
> > impossible.
>
> Central City, I told them on the application form.
>
> Wayne
> _______________________________________________
> Discussion mailing list
> Discussion at tangleball.org.nz
> http://www.tangleball.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/discussion
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From karsten at sperling.co.nz Sat Jan 26 21:23:44 2019
From: karsten at sperling.co.nz (Karsten Sperling)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 21:23:44 +1300
Subject: [Discussion] Did the NFC reader get turned off?
Message-ID:
It was working earlier today but now isn't, was wanting to pick up a hat I
left behind.
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From robin at bumblepuppy.org Tue Jan 29 13:08:40 2019
From: robin at bumblepuppy.org (Robin Paulson)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 13:08:40 +1300
Subject: [Discussion] the dungeon and my stuff
Message-ID:
i might be late to the meeting tonight, so thought i'd post an update on
progress here.
most of the workshop is done, i've contacted most of the members and
dealt with their stuff. there are a few things left to sort/think about,
but nothing much.
the meeting area/entryway is looking better too.
i saw joran today - he took the shelves plus some other random items
like vices, half the fluoro tubes and the printer. he was keen to take
any decent lengths of metal and timber in good condition, i will be
helping him with it tomorrow/thursday. there is no need to put all the
contents of the dungeon in the skip tonight, it will go to hackland, i
will put the remainder in the skip.
i will also be here solidly for all of wednesday and thursday, finishing
off the little things like cleaning, moping and sweeping.
also, i've got a van for my things (currently in two piles: one by the
lathe, one in the meeting room) coming tomorrow, so anyone who is
concerned about them.... no need to be.
--
robin
From phoneofed at gmail.com Tue Jan 29 16:23:44 2019
From: phoneofed at gmail.com (PhoneOf Ed)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:23:44 +1300
Subject: [Discussion] the dungeon and my stuff
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
Are they taking all the books too?
On Tue, 29 Jan 2019, 1:08 PM Robin Paulson i might be late to the meeting tonight, so thought i'd post an update on
> progress here.
>
> most of the workshop is done, i've contacted most of the members and
> dealt with their stuff. there are a few things left to sort/think about,
> but nothing much.
>
> the meeting area/entryway is looking better too.
>
> i saw joran today - he took the shelves plus some other random items
> like vices, half the fluoro tubes and the printer. he was keen to take
> any decent lengths of metal and timber in good condition, i will be
> helping him with it tomorrow/thursday. there is no need to put all the
> contents of the dungeon in the skip tonight, it will go to hackland, i
> will put the remainder in the skip.
>
> i will also be here solidly for all of wednesday and thursday, finishing
> off the little things like cleaning, moping and sweeping.
>
> also, i've got a van for my things (currently in two piles: one by the
> lathe, one in the meeting room) coming tomorrow, so anyone who is
> concerned about them.... no need to be.
>
> --
> robin
>
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From phoneofed at gmail.com Thu Jan 31 15:47:39 2019
From: phoneofed at gmail.com (PhoneOf Ed)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 15:47:39 +1300
Subject: [Discussion] Final push
Message-ID:
Hello all, we're tidying up the final bits and can use some help right now.
If you've made use of the space in the past, now's a good time for one
final bit of assistance.
Also, please cancel any payments to Tangleball. ta
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