To be terrified of no deal Brexit

Having just watched the headlines, it really does seem that Boris is hellbent on taking us out with no deal. The fact he’s thrown down the gauntlet to the EU stating that he won’t come to the table unless they drop the backstop - well of course they’re not going to do that, and Boris won’t back down, so we will be leaving with no deal.

What do you think will be the repercussions of this? I’m terrified I’m going to lose my job and my home. If I’m worried then I can’t imagine what people reliant on various meds are going through.

I am very grateful for the long list someone posted on the prepping thread. I intend to print it off and start stocking up seriously. Fortunately I can afford to do that. I am also glad that neither me nor DH is dependent on medication - I wish I could say that for DB, BIL and MIL.

Luckily we sold our home and are renting. Jobs wise we lost a lot of work straight after the referendum and have changed direction to one which may thrive in the cluster fuck that’s coming. Our other business has no debt and could close down change etc.

Personally I’d like to leave and move elsewhere in the world by my OH less so.

Our DC already have dual-nationality if they need it.

Did contemplate staying in Canada where we are on holiday 😂😂.

I think it’s batten down the hatches time, cut spending and build our cash reserve further.

How anyone thinks Brexit is a good idea is beyond me. At least my Brexit voting in-laws have now seen sense when they’ve seen the GDs change nationality to keep the advantages of being European.

I've been living in Europe, but had to return to the UK recently (but really didn't want to). I want to go back again in the future, but it looks like I'm going to lose all my rights with a no deal Brexit, and in return gain... nothing

And what really upsets me is that it' my own country taking my rights away, not the one where I was living . Like you I have to avoid watching the news for my own sanity.

People could well still live and work in the EU, but the process will be more difficult, bureaucratic and expensive than it is now. And for what? What do UK citizens in the EU, or EU citizens in the UK, or UK citizens in the UK, have to gain from a no deal Brexit exactly?

Both sides, leave and remain, have exaggerated their arguments. No deal is not the best outcome, but at same time I can't convince myself that millions will die in the process due to lack of; food, water, medications, etc. The UK was meant to plunge into recession just by voting to leave in 2016, but it never happened.

Likewise I can't convince myself that UK will be hugely better off. At present UK is 5th largest economy of the World (hard to believe, but that is the figure). Countries like; USA, China, Japan and soon India will always have bigger economies due to their populations. So even if UK can pass both France and German economy in future they would still be in 5th place in the World which is where we are now.

Even JRM has estimated that it will take 50 years. Imagine that many on MN will not be around then?

People act like no one travelled or worked abroad or managed before we were in the EU. It's laughable.But we aren't going back to the 70s . The world is different now. It's not easy or often possible to move to another country to work. As someone who lives in Australia you should know that.

Janista is not thinking this through. Yes, these things happened before we were in the EU. But then we joined, and spent 40 years building our arrangements on the basis of membership. So things changed and dependencies were introduced. That is the problem. We are not going to be magically transported to a position as if we’d never been members.Honestly!