you could rock a lowercase E on that type of sketch cuz the tops are all smooth an circle like, like the top of an E ya know? either that or seperate the spines of the P an R to define where they are and it would suit the E much better

Cyto Aka Son1c

05-31-2010, 04:02 PM

http://i46.tinypic.com/103g84p.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/k4wk8k.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/29nareb.jpg

FlippingChickens

05-31-2010, 04:16 PM

Yea i agree with guy the e needs to be get closer..but yea i could tell it was a quick sketch and stupid mistakes like that happen so dont sweat it,i appreciate for taking your time to do that..im gonna tweak my letters on what i posted last and ima proceed to sketching out what clout did

cyto - yo dont do all that crazy shit inside your letters and focus on what has been talked about these last few pages,its all about proportions,widths,heights,bars,and most important style,but style doesnt mean a crazy backround and random add on's,just keep it neat and simple for now.

Church

05-31-2010, 04:20 PM

http://i46.tinypic.com/103g84p.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/k4wk8k.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/29nareb.jpg
yes! and no at the same time. The first one is the best one, but the black lines that come off in every direction look like you went for the 3d drop effect but couldn't decide which way you wanted it, so it throws of the perspective. The paint scheme good though.

The second one is the one that is the worst. You obviously can do way better since the other two are good. the letters themselves are really weak in some spots, and by adding multiple lines on the same letter, it makes it look even weaker since it deemphasizes the actual shape of the letters. and im not a fan of that paint job.

I can clearly see the look that you were going for with the last one. But once again, the perspective is off and that makes the letters look really weak. It has a lot of style to it, just not executed properly.

overall I think they are good and you show a lot of potential. you have a clear direction that you are going in and you understand the basics like "keepin the letters the same size". keep at it

-Empty-Can-

05-31-2010, 04:21 PM

Yo Tofe,I'll do an simple exchange for you later.

Bars

05-31-2010, 04:25 PM

i think that O in your previous work (the green one) was better.
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6412/beztytuu11b.jpg
1. this looks bad.like you made a mistake.its not the same size as the rest of your piece
2. i dont like the thing at the end of this bar.
3. i think you should get rid of it or make it the same size as all the bars...
4. that 3d is poopy, change it

I don't really Like how the E leans so much at the end. But still it's starting to get better!

RES4

05-31-2010, 04:31 PM

cyto- at first it looks sick, but if you break it down the letters are lacking. its not bad though, just work on letter structure instead of add ons and such. the style sorta reminds me of some tenser piece i saw somewhere

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4043/4657730588_323929934c.jpg

Cyto Aka Son1c

05-31-2010, 04:45 PM

thanks everyone! :D

asper- looks much better with lowercase e

and heres more tinkering with one of the sketches

http://i45.tinypic.com/64pcfb.jpg

I've just been smoking hash and busting shit out today

FlippingChickens

05-31-2010, 06:21 PM

asper - i think a thicker outline could make it look better

cyto - i like that trippy robotic shit..just the widths of the bars going big and small like for example look at the letter s..it just kills it..but overall it looks nice,just focus on doing simple stuff

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3328.jpg
i was hyper as fuck when i did this peice,i should have just left it black n white;fuck it

Amends_Ego

05-31-2010, 06:26 PM

OH GOD!... oh wait just read what you said last. you got it on point street meth and graff dont mix, id keep spraypaint outta your BB too.

FlippingChickens

05-31-2010, 06:31 PM

i was really hyper idk wtf is wrong with me today but im good now ima sketch something else right after im finished smoking

Cyto Aka Son1c

05-31-2010, 09:36 PM

TOFE- E needs to be straight like the rest :) other than that it looks good

http://i46.tinypic.com/23vyn10.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/2zyxwco.jpg

I fucked up the R

MoganOne

06-01-2010, 08:39 AM

Yo Deser Nice style man

lord_plankton

06-01-2010, 09:14 AM

id not overlap just one e..the black one looks better but why you do exactly the same shit twice? oh and first e is really streched copmpared to second also the extension on the bottom first e is ugly so are the "wings on leg of r...and in general youve a really edgy style like no curves except the ees..you might wanna try n change em up all edgy n see how it turns out...

ironcrack

06-01-2010, 11:10 AM

its the same pic. in negative

RES4

06-01-2010, 11:33 AM

tofe- gettin better, dont like the e tho

deser- s is the best letter. change the e's

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4028/4659908723_6033d1dac0.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4660530972_babd825b24.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4049/4659909569_27afcde03c.jpg

i changed the r to a k cause it sounds better

haze4life

06-01-2010, 01:47 PM

i was really hyper idk wtf is wrong with me today but im good now ima sketch something else right after im finished smoking

Obvious 13 yearold is obvious

Cyto Aka Son1c

06-01-2010, 02:55 PM

last K is best K

overall pieces are dope

http://i46.tinypic.com/rsy4ra.jpg

lord_plankton

06-01-2010, 03:07 PM

its the same pic. in negative
hahah, and im like "the black one looks better" ..well the perspective and color do make a diffrence..dese last latest piece is worse, first off id like round the bottom part d..its what most sticks out at first glance..mid part of e is long dong..
overall too much cracks n shit...

Inlyn08

06-01-2010, 08:41 PM

hahah, and im like "the black one looks better" ..well the perspective and color do make a diffrence..dese last latest piece is worse, first off id like round the bottom part d..its what most sticks out at first glance..mid part of e is long dong..
overall too much cracks n shit...
I lol'd.

TOFE- E needs to be straight like the rest :) other than that it looks good

are you kidding me?
http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3328.jpg

The bend in that T is horrible, it looks like it has a leg and T's dont have legs. The extension on the top right of the O is way too fat, and shouldnt be there in the first place, not to mention the bars on the O look like he tried to make a diamond shape on the outside and a curvy type on the inside. which then makes the bars uneven. the extension on the bottom of the F is too small and makes it look awkward, an F does not need a leg either. dont cut into your bars like you did on the middle bar of the F. the random bump coming off the back of the base bar on the F looks stupid as fuck and doesnt fit, The curve on the top bar of the F doesnt match the bottom part of the bar or any letter but the E for that matter. And just scrap the E and never think of using it again because i dont want to crit it. The 3D on the bottom left diagonal bar is missing, the 3d on the O is missing as well on the top left bar. the inside 3d looks like shit because you fucked up your bars. the F is missing 3d on that wonky penis looking thing at the top of it. and once again im not touching on that E. we have told you so many fucking times i stopped counting. stick to simples. no extensions. nothing. nothing at all. simples until you can learn how to properly tweak a letter or QUIT GRAFFITI.'

his T and F are fine. and his E wouldnt be horrible if it was standing up. look 5 pages back an try an front like he isnt improving

tofe, tone it down a bit. he does have a point in keepin it simple for now. granted that black an blue one you did wasnt too bad. just stop doing what you do with your E. it hurts my head

pleasedontstayr

06-01-2010, 11:37 PM

maybe i did go a bit overboard but that E has bars all over the place so i dont see how standing it up would improve it. if you looked maybe 100 pages back. you would see him posting the same stuff over and over and being told the same things. i guess my crits made it look like i thought the whole thing was shit. its aesthetically pleasing, the fill is cool albeit raping my eyes like i had ADHD. but when you look at the structure its off, hence why we always tell him to go simpler.

GuyGuyer of Guyland

06-01-2010, 11:51 PM

yes, he needs to go simpler. no he dosent need to rock block letters. yes, he should.

he's having fun and trying to improve a bit. he dosent need to take letter formation as serious as many do because he dosent take graffiti as a whole that serious.

helpful tips will show him the right direction. but it seems he just wants to doodle around like a typical 13 year old. i doubt he's into graffiti for any clout or wall painting sense or whatnot.

realize different people need different approaches when it comes to tips. the way you said it, he wont listen to anything you said. rather than being nice and have him listen to half of what ive said.

maybe he'll realize he wants to paint in the future and when he does. he'll realize that shit wont look too fly on a wall. at that point in his life. he'll revert to block letters to regain some of what he missed.

i dont disagree with you, but the way you threw it at him just seemed over the top

Thanks, dude. I've been tweaking a little bit on paper with pencil. Small bends in letters and curves and some extensions. Just been workin' on each individual letter but still a little apprehensive. Messin' with drop shadows/3D from different angles. I'll probably keep rockin' straights for a while as I work on paper. Hopefully it all evolve into something better someday.

weakfingers

06-02-2010, 12:10 AM

The toy posting in toy blackbooks!?!.... oh now Ive seen everything! :)

(e-sarcasm)

On the real tho I'm hyped on seeing your tweak your style.

FlippingChickens

06-02-2010, 09:54 AM

stayr - quit being such a little bitch and telling me to quit,ive been doing this for years im not quitting cuz some prick has his period,ive fucking progressed a massive amount this past week because guy knows how to give good crits unlike you and the rest of the scumbags who just told me to quit..so what, just because i fucked up in this one peice does not mean i havent been rocking out some better shit.Guy,i do take graffiti seriously,honestly i had no what i was doing when i was 13,14,15,16,and now im 17 almost 18 still trying to figure shit out,but i have like 7 blackbooks filled with horrible shit regardless of it being toy i still had dedication and a thrill for doing so many peices..since i was 14 every morning and afternoon id take the train to school and basicly i started doing a bunch of tags everyday and i just recently got a car so ive been doing that cycle for sometime now..nothing to brag about but i have put myself at risk for this shit and been mad close to being caught once

Flipping chickens- You gotta just focus on the basic of graffiti, the letter bends and all the drippy shit and colours are cool but the structure is pretty lacking. You should be able to rock a solid 2 colour piece befor your go all out with effects and shit. That whole Ive been writing for 5 years and filled 7 black books aint something to stand by. Its up to YOU to get better, Its all about self motivation. I'm not trying to put you on blast this is just a general holla to most of the kids on the forum.

We all get harsh crits on the site but proove the fools wrong and work hard and come back with a sketch that will leave them speechless.

Ive seen so many kids on the site just do the same shit all the tiome and never change up there shit and stay super toy for the whole time I've been on here., I know its the number one rule of graffiti but bite graffiti. Get ideas from other styles, who the fuck cares, your a toy and just draw that shit over and over till its not the same anymore and its a new letter structure, Every one has seen that letter they liked and tried it out & I'll be the first one to say, Most of my styles have come from one bitten letter I'll see in a piece I really like that has one of my letters. Ill combine it with my own and I'll tweak it and work with it and sooner or later itill be a completely different letter. I'll post some progression pics in abit...

GuyGuyer of Guyland

06-02-2010, 10:40 AM

tofe, that purple an pink one is the best thing ive seen from you. in fact, its better than most of the shit ive seen the past week. keep it up homie. the bottom part of the spine of the F is too forced, i dont think it looks too good.

the O is fresh, the E is nearly point on. the top half of your T is dope. keep it up man

just keep sketchin. 5 outlines a day, no color. thats how you get your letters bang on yah dig?

yo weakfingers, did you just tell this guy to bite? what the fuck.. yo tofe. dont bite. inspiration and biting are completely different. biters aint writers.

The toy posting in toy blackbooks!?!.... oh now Ive seen everything! :)

Haha. Dude, I have the worst ADHD. I can never sit down and finish a drawing. That one only took five minutes and it felt like hours. I'm trying to fight the urge to start something new when I'm only have way through something or just completely start doodling something else. I'm my own worst enemy cause I have no patience. I think that's why my style has been lacking lately.

YaPp3RoN3R

06-02-2010, 11:46 AM

http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/slash440022/Picture0022.jpg

i know the letters are different , i did that on purpose , i want it to look gooffy

YaPp3RoN3R

06-02-2010, 11:47 AM

http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/slash440022/Picture0022.jpg

i know the letters are different , i did that on purpose , i want it to look gooffy

ViniVidiVici

06-02-2010, 12:38 PM

I kinda like it.... the y is sick in my opinion

lord_plankton

06-02-2010, 12:48 PM

well you can go n store it under achievements, it does look goofy..

YaPp3RoN3R

06-02-2010, 01:03 PM

well i wanted it that way ,, u have any other pointers?

FlippingChickens

06-02-2010, 01:23 PM

Yo guy, should i leave my letters without 3d until i get better letters?

RES4

06-02-2010, 01:33 PM

you may as well practice 3d and shadow now. but you should leave fills for now, just do outlines

lord_plankton

06-02-2010, 05:55 PM

well i wanted it that way ,, u have any other pointers?
no, as you said, you wanted it that way so youre good..what can i say..maybe delete one of the pics..

n8galicia

06-02-2010, 06:34 PM

damn ain't posted in ere for a minute. anyways...

http://i47.tinypic.com/34ordvt.jpg

GuyGuyer of Guyland

06-02-2010, 07:19 PM

Yo guy, should i leave my letters without 3d until i get better letters?

you may as well practice 3d and shadow now. but you should leave fills for now, just do outlines

exactly what he said. you could do fills. but it takes away precious time from outlines you could be doing

the more outlines you do, the better you get. it dosent seem you dont have a full understanding of 3D an drop shadows. so keep doin em too

-Empty-Can-

06-02-2010, 08:24 PM

Abel-Make your A using two diagonal bars. Try to keep your letters the same size.

zennegen

06-02-2010, 09:04 PM

no crits...

http://i50.tinypic.com/72x8hw.jpg

GuyGuyer of Guyland

06-02-2010, 09:17 PM

its nice. wanna do an exchange? id like to see my name in that caligraphy shit. pm me if yah do

ManeMan

06-02-2010, 10:35 PM

9137

9138

9140

9141
These be some outlines of just somewhat simple letters(I probably shouldnt of done those little characters.. But I really like drawing characters, so fuck it.). Then I coloured one in to change it up abit. Opinion or crits would be much appreciated.

AteskOne

06-03-2010, 12:12 AM

Haha. Dude, I have the worst ADHD. I can never sit down and finish a drawing. That one only took five minutes and it felt like hours. I'm trying to fight the urge to start something new when I'm only have way through something or just completely start doodling something else. I'm my own worst enemy cause I have no patience. I think that's why my style has been lacking lately.
yeah that sucks bro. i can draw for fuckin days. hours spent in the BB are definitely crucial for progression.

weakfingers

06-03-2010, 12:15 AM

I hate drawing even though i know its crutial.
http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt300/2wayducttape/SDC19870.jpg

FlippingChickens

06-03-2010, 12:22 AM

i like the q on the bottom one,i think the e has pottential it just needs to be played wit,the z looks kinda bad with your a going over it like that..my favorite is the top one,the s is on point but the n is really lacking and the t should be thicker and if you make the q shorter at the top and fix its leg sticking out then ur good

Does that say Slape? or Slade? Don't really like any of the letters especially the e and the s

Beatjunkie

06-03-2010, 09:07 AM

Its a P. I drew up the letters fairly quickly, I wanted to practice my colors. Personally I thought the SLAP was okay... I dont like the E either, i fuckd that one up, but as I said I was trying to practice my coloring so I just filled it up.

What do you think of the fill in?

oh_kilts

06-03-2010, 02:50 PM

new to graffiti, but having fun doing it (regardless of being a huge toy). Decided to focus on more simple type letters and my bars, as per the mass amount of that advice on this here forum. anyways, harsh critiques always appreciated.

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad226/a_better_bard/graf/2.jpg

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad226/a_better_bard/graf/3.jpg

RES4

06-03-2010, 04:21 PM

well the first sketch is a start. take out the random bends in the letters. remove the thing sticking out at the left of the k, and smooth the top of the t. if you want to bend the letters you could smooth them and bend each main bar in the same direction

Meph*

06-03-2010, 04:52 PM

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad240/Meph_one/ae86.jpg

did this a while ago, just wanted to post it up looking for crits

kilt- i like the first one a lot, the second one just looks awkward

tofe- I see you improving but i dont like that E

oh_kilts

06-03-2010, 05:17 PM

thanks guys, i agree about the second one, i didn't really like it either, hah. I'll fix those things RES4, thanks.

Meph, I can't really critique it as graffiti, but as a drawing in general I dig it, and -hell yes- an AE86, one of my favorite cars, easily.

Amends_Ego

06-03-2010, 05:27 PM

kilts-everything that RES said plus you look like you have the basic structure of shit down just dont force the bends and add ons let it come naturally to you,

Sbal

06-03-2010, 05:37 PM

Slape its too much color too soon, even if it was dope, it wont save your lacking letter structure

Meph*

06-03-2010, 07:02 PM

thanks kilt, n yeah i know its not graffiti but yeh i jst had to post my ae86 lol not many people like that car.

zennegen

06-03-2010, 07:39 PM

http://i46.tinypic.com/fnbx9i.jpg
exchange for rasek. S came out shitty.

-Empty-Can-

06-03-2010, 09:18 PM

http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab66/pics4bscience4/tofexchangeMedium.jpg
exchange for tofe
quick and simple.
half assed the O
first thing i drew in like a month
critz it

pleasedontstayr

06-03-2010, 09:35 PM

Tofe, i didnt straight out say quit graffiti. i said if you cant follow the advice we've been giving for awhile then just quit. harsh but thats how i crit, along with a few others on this site. but all e beef aside that outline on the far right set of pictures you did on the last page was rockin i wont lie. i still dont like the extension on the top of the O and the top of the F but keep at it.

Zenn: i havent seen you post anything in a long time man, if ever. Not startin beef at all but for the first thing ive seen from you that style is wicked dude. on a side note that R and K look like the exact opposite if you know what i mean, but maybe thats how you wanted it i dunno!

Kilt: good to see your startin the simples, i would say maybe space your letters out a tiny bit because they look a bit crowded, also try and fix the way your bending them because they are going like this /\/\ if you understand that? make em flow the same way. if you havent checked out the new to graffiti thread in this side of the forum you should cause its really helpful.

ill post pics for all the talking soon but my cam shit itself this week and hasnt wiped its ass yet.

GuyGuyer of Guyland

06-03-2010, 10:24 PM

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad240/Meph_one/ae86.jpg

did this a while ago, just wanted to post it up looking for crits

kilt- i like the first one a lot, the second one just looks awkward

tofe- I see you improving but i dont like that E

your perspective is off a bit at the end of the car, but its done real well

http://i46.tinypic.com/fnbx9i.jpg
exchange for rasek. S came out shitty.

the top should be parallel to the bottom of the windscreen which should be parallel to the front which should be parallel to the bottom, right?

other than that its good

FlippingChickens

06-04-2010, 08:34 AM

empty - came out straight homie,ill do you one today...gonna try and rock a few outlines today,ill be back later...

zenegan - dam those letters are sharp,real nice.

meph - came out nice,ur good with characters maybe do one sticking its head out the window or leaning by the car or something

zennegen

06-04-2010, 09:45 AM

thanks alot, guys.i'll post more flciks later.

oh_kilts

06-04-2010, 01:13 PM

hokay, heres a new one. I took out the bends going in random directions and put them all going to the right (which is what i think you guys ment), removed the tumor on the K and flattened out the T - I also added an S, because S's are rad and I like drawing them, lol.

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad226/a_better_bard/kilts.jpg

Meph*

06-04-2010, 01:25 PM

tofe you mean like this one? lol i did this a while ago too

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad240/Meph_one/pursuit.jpg

Meph*

06-04-2010, 01:28 PM

kilt- the i is too far behind the k and i dont like it following the same lines as the L, just an honest opinion

pleasedontstayr

06-04-2010, 02:15 PM

kilt i like the fact you took the advice man, good job, its lookin decent for how new you are but like the guy above me said the I is a bit too hidden and the symmetrical I and L arent working too well. following our advice lead to that mistake but its all good haha, just either try and add a small extension to that L n the back or tweak the top of that L a bit more so it pushes away from the I if you understand. if not just find your own way to space em out. either way keep it up.

RES4

06-04-2010, 03:20 PM

hokay, heres a new one. I took out the bends going in random directions and put them all going to the right (which is what i think you guys ment), removed the tumor on the K and flattened out the T - I also added an S, because S's are rad and I like drawing them, lol.

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad226/a_better_bard/kilts.jpg

gettin better. next time space out the i and the l which has already been said and maybe try and smooth the bend instead of pointed like that you know?
try and make the bottom left bar of the k follow the flow of the rest. it sort of sticks out and kills the flow/movement whatever

FlippingChickens

06-04-2010, 05:47 PM

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3333.jpg

gonna work on some letters now

-Empty-Can-

06-04-2010, 05:49 PM

haha. cool
I think the arms could be moved back a bit more though.

FlippingChickens

06-04-2010, 06:20 PM

didnt take me long considering it was just freestyle and was my 1st attempt at your letters...should have been cleaner and made all the letters on the same level...maybe ill do another one sometime

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3334.jpg

LeaksOne

06-04-2010, 06:20 PM

you gota work on that handy too. the handy with the sonic character.

pleasedontstayr

06-04-2010, 06:48 PM

dont cut your letters off like that Tofe, im talking about the T's
meh the handy is simple, just dont slant it.
same with the sketch too

http://i45.tinypic.com/5v0fwg.jpg
heres a sketch i did today in my classes, just for all the talking this week.
crits? i dont like the S.

BlacktodaFuture

06-04-2010, 07:14 PM

everyone on this page should go SIMPLER!

pleasedontstayr

06-04-2010, 07:26 PM

kilts and stot are pretty simple not gonna lie. instead of telling me to go simple why dont you give tips on how to progress my style? just a thought cause you have to eventually try new things, it wont help with people just telling you not to.

not bitchin, just sayin

Phillip McDougall

06-04-2010, 07:42 PM

He gave you criticism to progress your style. Go simpler. It'll be the most productive thing you can do right now.

I'd recommend bending your letters like < instead of like > if you're flowing that way. That S is hideous though. Keep at it. You'll get there.

@Stayr: Plus is perfect :p but you need to try more simpler, try making the U alittle more like a U because from my POV it sorta looks like a L, Your S could use alot of work too. i'm just not diggin it from ya brotha. but i'll hook you up, check your inbox in a few.

@Stot: are you serious? LOL.

_______________

My 1st time doing a SIMPLE FOR ONCE. so it may not be straight,

http://i45.tinypic.com/w8l5cj.jpg

crits?

FlippingChickens

06-04-2010, 09:38 PM

that y is wierd,dont like the bar sticking up the r and the one sticking to the left with the y,and its really skinny in that one part..a black shadow would have been better

..from worst to best...

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3340.jpg

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3335.jpg

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3338.jpg

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3336.jpg

flask1995

06-04-2010, 09:42 PM

ya truu, but I wanted it to match the bottom, cause if its curve, curve, straight, curve, then I didnt think it would match, but hey it's my 1st time doing shiet like this :p

-Empty-Can-

06-04-2010, 09:43 PM

@Stot: are you serious? LOL.
crits?

at?

flask1995

06-04-2010, 09:47 PM

I saw this

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3334.jpg

and i thought it was you when it was really flippinchickens.

@Tofe: keep it up man, last time you were shit but this time it's sorta better.

F is sorta weird, also same thing with the E.

-Empty-Can-

06-04-2010, 09:55 PM

oh lol.
yea im better than that :p

Inlyn08

06-05-2010, 12:48 AM

hokay, heres a new one. I took out the bends going in random directions and put them all going to the right (which is what i think you guys ment), removed the tumor on the K and flattened out the T - I also added an S, because S's are rad and I like drawing them, lol.

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad226/a_better_bard/kilts.jpg

To be honest, that K doesn't look like a K at all. More like a down syndrome X. The rest of the letters have potential. Lose that K, like.. yesterday.

Inlyn08

06-05-2010, 12:55 AM

that y is wierd,dont like the bar sticking up the r and the one sticking to the left with the y,and its really skinny in that one part..a black shadow would have been better

..from worst to best...

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3340.jpg

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3335.jpg

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3338.jpg

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3336.jpg

Can I just say, I like how you attempt to switch up some of the style/s of your letters. However, you always stay consistent with that T. Personally speaking ( which you may not like it ) that T fucks up the possibilities on a majority of your sketches/ pieces whatever. The fact that you have these bars coming in odd directions off of the foundation of a lowercase T make it look like a mess. I would say, stop making the lowercase T with all that shit on it. 100 times. Break out of that cycle, because as much as you may like it.. it just doesn't fit with all of it.
Just saying.

||BREAD||

06-05-2010, 02:27 AM

^ word.

ManeMan

06-05-2010, 03:26 AM

kiltz- All I can say is whats been said.
Tofe- I think that looks dope.
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/2985/img0401te.jpg
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/3531/img0403rg.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9369/img0404zc.jpg
hella fucked up that e.

pleasedontstayr

06-05-2010, 09:17 AM

@Stayr: Plus is perfect :p but you need to try more simpler, try making the U alittle more like a U because from my POV it sorta looks like a L, Your S could use alot of work too. i'm just not diggin it from ya brotha. but i'll hook you up, check your inbox in a few.

are you talkin facebook inbox or on here man? i dont have an inbox on either account. Thanks for the crits though, i made the U to match the L on purpose. The only letter i really like in this is the P. ive been testing it out alot the past bit and just finally fit it into a sketch. trying to get a style to match it

@stayr: Plus is perfect :p but you need to try more simpler, try making the u alittle more like a u because from my pov it sorta looks like a l, your s could use alot of work too. I'm just not diggin it from ya brotha. But i'll hook you up, check your inbox in a few.

@stot: Are you serious? Lol.

_______________

my 1st time doing a simple for once. So it may not be straight,

http://i45.tinypic.com/w8l5cj.jpg

crits?key bored lattersss
use stright bars for now till you get the bending them part down

Sbal

06-05-2010, 01:46 PM

Emane what the fuck is up with that second E it looks like a Q and that M looks like an R

Emane what the fuck is up with that second E it looks like a Q and that M looks like an R

"Hella fucked up that e."
All my E's are wack because I havent practiced them. I always just turned em into faces/characters. I kinda see how the M could look like an R, I'll fool around with it. But thanks for pointing out what I need to work on most.

you dont need to do keyboard letters, your past that imo. just fix the y and clean up the s. the r is good tho

woonybomber

06-06-2010, 08:21 AM

dude no dont lisen to him im telling you go to strights your dont got the bending part down your bars are not all the same im juss trying to help you and this guy dont know wat he is saying and work on makeing stright line your lines are like ~ and shit

RES4

06-06-2010, 08:47 AM

show us some of you letters woony

and i'l say it again, your letters are decent, no need to go any simpler alright? trust me

Some new shit.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f327/olredeyes/Photo11-4.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f327/olredeyes/Photo5-6.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f327/olredeyes/Photo3-3.jpg

Flawless Victory

06-06-2010, 11:47 PM

i dnt know where your from ,, but in ky ....... there is this crew called fst . and there is a guy juice , he is crushing u and is a local legend , im sure u heard of his freind dark? or maybe dues?

i suggest a name change
It says CUNT JUICE you fucking twit.
I've never heard of any of them, and Kentucky is full of meth and fucking rednecks, so who the fuck cares about them anyway?

LeaksOne

06-06-2010, 11:50 PM

WHOA flaw calm down man haha.

Flawless Victory

06-06-2010, 11:53 PM

http://spectre-net.co.nz/ch0n/b/src/126956093891.jpg

Phillip McDougall

06-07-2010, 12:09 AM

^^^
I see what you did thar. I actually was going to use that face and post them everywhere with stickers, but I feel my name wouldn't go with it...

ZEN. YOU BETTER BITE MY IDEA RIGHT NOW. YOUR NAME FITS IT PERFECTLY.

speaking of which.

not even about to give a ***** credit? well damn.

Considering "U" is the first letter in your real name, it should look much better than the one you posted. Not too shabby though. Keep at it.

angle the two vertical bars on the A more towards each other, so the intersect more. and the LT looks like it's angle more upwards then the PA. make sure all your letters are angled in the same direction. and the rounded top part of the P is too skinny. yo?

red eyes: watch your structre/flow on that S.
zbre: i like that style, really original. Just be careful with that R. Wasn't able to really tell whether it was an R or a X. And that Z can be mistaken for a lower case E.
tofe: better but work on flow and just because you are using bars doesn't mean you are using letter structure. watch where you are putting them.

FlippingChickens

06-07-2010, 07:25 PM

whats with those triangles your putting in every letter? all the letters need work but i say focus mainly on the a and r and e for now

The A is gross. i agree. i've been working on a few different ones.
the triangle things on every single letter is called flow. (doing the same thing to each letter making it consistent, like how the bottom of the S is balancing out the bottom of the E) and the F is more hidden then the E bc an F can easily be mistaken for an E. trying to make it more prominent to being an F and different. still got a few kinks to work out. thx for the crits though.

Didnt you post this on the intermediate thread a while back and get hated on for your style ?
The F in the pen one is an E and the K has too random tail/ extensions

oh_kilts

06-08-2010, 09:45 AM

To be honest, that K doesn't look like a K at all. More like a down syndrome X.

this made me lol.

@4ENOD i really like this a lot
@FUKE i'm not really diggin' the fill on the second one, too busy and takes away from the letters

here's an update, rounded out a lot the letters and added a shadow. I know it's still simple letters, but i'd rather get it right at the base level than develop bad habits and screw myself over down the road.

@4ENOD i really like this a lot
@FUKE i'm not really diggin' the fill on the second one, too busy and takes away from the letters

here's an update, rounded out a lot the letters and added a shadow. I know it's still simple letters, but i'd rather get it right at the base level than develop bad habits and screw myself over down the road.

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad226/a_better_bard/graf/kilts_4.jpg
This looks much better.

weakfingers

06-08-2010, 11:33 AM

lol this thread is hopeless. if you have to ask crits for straight up keyboard letters, you're trollin. seriously. it's all been said before, use bars, cleaner lines, etc.

This^^ I dont know how often i come on here and see the same shit over and over and over with the same dudes wanting crits on there letters.

kilt- the letters are straight i just dont like the bottom right leg of the K, try to start it more round instead of a line directly going down

YaPp3RoN3R

06-08-2010, 05:05 PM

http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/slash440022/SDC10215.jpg

let me know what ya think , what could i do better

YaPp3RoN3R

06-08-2010, 05:08 PM

http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/slash440022/SDC10215.jpg

Inlyn08

06-08-2010, 06:29 PM

http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/slash440022/SDC10215.jpg
Simply put, have the A look more like an A?
Right now with the two bubble type things at the top it looks like it used to be an H to me. It's not really defined itself as the letter A. If you insist on doing the bubble twirl thing off the letters, perhaps you should have the A come to a point at the top and pick a direction for that single bubble twirl thing to come off of. Kind of like the P?

I know it's still simple letters, but i'd rather get it right at the base level than develop bad habits and screw myself over down the road./graf/kilts_4.jpg[/IMG]

I see what youre saying, but i reckon sometimes its better just to jump right in and try out loads of different styles and just see which one(s) stick. Dont be afraid to make mistakes..

Xfish

06-09-2010, 01:49 PM

kilts you got the right idea, get some good solid letters before you start doing wildstyle shit dont listen to 4HER although exploring some cant hurt just keep doing what your doing and if might look a lil better if you reducded the bar length of the bottom of the L just a tiny bit

RES4

06-09-2010, 02:34 PM

kilts- your on the right track definately
yap- its not awful but i hate that style
zewl- that second one has potential but simplify it a bit. a lot of the add ons are pointless. make the middle two bars of the W thicker. it makes it have too much negative space otherwise

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1301/4685538881_f25167dc75.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1285/4685539147_002be2ee05.jpg
Excellent pen work, dude. You've got some nice letters. Just try and bring that extension between the P and the K down a little bit so it's not too much higher than the other letters. Tuck it if you have to.

I think that second one is ready for painting. No doubt about it.

RES4

06-09-2010, 02:42 PM

hopefully i will get painting a bit in a few weeks. exams are over on the 24th of june so hopefully i'l get some painting done then

TheToy

06-09-2010, 02:44 PM

I hear ya, man. Get your grind on, then get your shine on.

You got a solid head on your shoulders.

RES4

06-09-2010, 02:50 PM

thanks man

the top one is another i might paint
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1301/4685602393_395de61b33.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4031/4685602629_a6c3a866f3.jpg

i wont blame it on my pens or some shit, but can you tell me what I could improve with them? and if they are both complete shit, I can handle that too, can only make me better.

RES4

06-09-2010, 04:03 PM

to be perfectly honest theres nothing you can improve. you need to go way simpler, keyboard letters.

youve got the right attitude though

Kezu

06-09-2010, 04:13 PM

to be perfectly honest theres nothing you can improve. you need to go way simpler, keyboard letters.

youve got the right attitude though

thanks, and yeah I just meant advice in general, so yeah

aekone

06-09-2010, 09:03 PM

Sorry that it's a bad picture but yeah it does kinda suck. I'm just happy I've advanced this far!
Kezu- Keep it simple for a bit.
Aspek- That shit's real nice and clean. Looks fresh. Can't find flaws :P

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww171/slapomania/Photo51.jpg

aekone

06-09-2010, 09:05 PM

Double post

2FNK?

06-09-2010, 09:15 PM

thanks man

the top one is another i might paint
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1301/4685602393_395de61b33.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4031/4685602629_a6c3a866f3.jpg

Paint the bottom one. Period. Throw a sexy fill in it. Or just do white. Just paint it.

Zane- simple letters, drop the extensions, work on your 3d, let it run over the letter under it if your gonna do it on the right side. It's easier just to do it on the left so you can work on letter spacing too, just fyi.

UHOH- your o looks like shit. no offense. work on your letter width for right now and keep it consistent, cut the weird ass bubbles coming off your letters out. Your 3d is off on your O. I'd just do simple top and left bars for now, when you get good at those, then work on straightviews (the shit you attempted). For now, just use a simple outline, not the puddle looking thing.

some shit I did for an exchange on our local messageboard...
http://www.wvrapscene.com/v2/images/fbfiles/images/photo_18_.jpg

Stuck

06-10-2010, 01:47 AM

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k430/Atrik/Photo2-2.jpg

FlippingChickens

06-10-2010, 04:20 AM

here,im feelin that as usual,but i think it would look better if u didnt have that arrow coming out your e and make it the same as the other one,the arrows dont look bad,i just think it would look a lot better without them

average- that outline on the epic looks slopy,and the a on the otherone looks bad

roes - the throwy is lookin better.. keep working on the r and s

aspek - the one with the red clouds looks dope man

ive been slow on the drawing lately,getting really boring..i need to get out and paint..

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3354.jpg

^ i know i spelled science wrong..the f and t im kinda dissapointed with,and next time i wont make the e so tall

right side of a too thin, i dont like the placement of the letters bvut otherwise ok

Odysse

06-10-2010, 11:20 AM

Gimme some feedback on some of my blackbook shit. It'd be much appreciated.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/jaredgarcia1/l_2cc0c70d737a4c9386e3b70a7f939e4a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/jaredgarcia1/0608102141-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/jaredgarcia1/0609102111.jpg

Odysse

06-10-2010, 11:21 AM

Gimme some feedback on some of my blackbook shit. It'd be much appreciated.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/jaredgarcia1/l_2cc0c70d737a4c9386e3b70a7f939e4a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/jaredgarcia1/0608102141-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/jaredgarcia1/0609102111.jpg

4ENOD

06-10-2010, 01:00 PM

hey Nose2
their is already a zewl!!!! and he passed away!

FlippingChickens

06-10-2010, 02:36 PM

ody - you have to start simple,look up some fonts and make it as clean as possible,try using just penicl so you wont waste anytime coloring.

some crits would be nice
http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3354.jpg
http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/tofe45.jpg
http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/tofe46.jpg
http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/tofe47.jpg
^ still needs work,ran out of caps...

-Empty-Can-

06-10-2010, 02:46 PM

2nd is by far the best i've seen

E just needs work

FlippingChickens

06-10-2010, 02:59 PM

next time i wont make it so round and more straight

RES4

06-10-2010, 03:13 PM

e is pretty bad but apart from that your definately on track

NosE2

06-10-2010, 06:32 PM

hey Nose2
their is already a zewl!!!! and he passed away!

***** i live in ohio i know he died, dude is from canada, and i don;t spell it the same way either, nor do i bite his style. no disrespect to him i'm in a different country.. and i was writin this name before i ever even found out about bs..

LeaksOne

06-10-2010, 08:21 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/jaredgarcia1/0609102111.jpg

HOLY SHIT! this is AMAZING! ive never seen this style before? howd you come up with it??

your E is ur best letter.... dont turn the end of letters into arrows like the leg of the R..... simplify it a bit and instead of using two bars to create a kink like the left bar of the W use one curvy bar. and the rest u can figure out

Sbal

06-11-2010, 08:42 AM

I think that compared to the rest of the letters, the H has too much open space end it

Gimme some feedback on some of my blackbook shit. It'd be much appreciated.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/jaredgarcia1/l_2cc0c70d737a4c9386e3b70a7f939e4a.jpg

wait whats that?

Odysse

06-11-2010, 11:26 AM

wait whats that?

iskm

rewz

06-11-2010, 12:05 PM

http://i41.tinypic.com/10nyn9h.jpg
working on it

SicK-

06-11-2010, 02:07 PM

stuck- you should tighten up the H so there isnt as much space, and by the second E it seems like it got smaller and like warped upwards

rewz- i like pretty much everything on this, maybe define the A more? im guessing thats an a kinda looks like a R, but yeah define it a little more but other than that looks good

LeaksOne

06-11-2010, 02:25 PM

iskm

no its not.

and rewz im feeling that!

FlippingChickens

06-11-2010, 09:06 PM

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3355.jpg

Amends_Ego

06-11-2010, 11:56 PM

Wow I seriously just got a disgusted/about to throw up chill through my whole body when I saw that^

P.S. Not a complement

CESP.one

06-12-2010, 12:22 AM

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq287/flippinchickens/DSCN3355.jpg

why do you keep doing that.

2FNK?

06-12-2010, 12:25 AM

Get off of TOFE's dick, and give him some crits. If you don't feel like it, don't comment on it. At least he's trying and posting.

-Empty-Can-

06-12-2010, 12:27 AM

You don't understand. He's been "trying" and posting the same garbage for like a year now.

2FNK?

06-12-2010, 12:31 AM

Well, then just tell him straight. TOFE, Apparently, you've tried to get way too intricate with straight lettering. Your basically trying to do wildstyle, without the wild, and without much style. Go to basics, and rework in different ways, don't just add shit to what you already have, start from stratch just about every time until you develop some style.

RJswirlz

06-12-2010, 12:41 AM

Soryy cuz they are both far from done but i need a little feed back of what i done so far..let me kno what ya think Thanks guys
pEaCE!!
-Swirlz

yea i know.. for some reason tho my characters always look like the shit b4 i outline then and ink em, but then it goes down hill.. gotta get a better stable hand or something..

IbuprofenTablets

06-12-2010, 12:52 AM

Well, then just tell him straight. TOFE, Apparently, you've tried to get way too intricate with straight lettering. Your basically trying to do wildstyle, without the wild, and without much style. Go to basics, and rework in different ways, don't just add shit to what you already have, start from stratch just about every time until you develop some style.

There's no hope, dude.
Homie's been writing for TWO years ( or more ), and he's STILL on that level..
besides that, Tofe never listens to crits, so you might as well not even crit him..

2FNK?

06-12-2010, 12:54 AM

They look good to me. I don't know much about super detailed drawings... besides the fact that I suck at them.

RJswirlz

06-12-2010, 12:56 AM

lol i think i completly ruined the white girl image with the lettering,

Flawless Victory

06-12-2010, 02:43 AM

You don't understand. He's been "trying" and posting the same garbage for like a year now.
Uh, wat.
All your shit is the same simple, and you post it over and over again.

FlippingChickens

06-12-2010, 08:29 AM

^word,stot your shit has improved but only a very small amount,everyone in here is a toy,no exception about it..when i get bored, i try to do things different and out of my comfort zone,everyone goes apeshit everytime i dont post something thats simple,its just one drawing chill out yo

Xfish

06-12-2010, 09:44 AM

well atleast he doesnt use that weird ass T any more

LeaksOne

06-12-2010, 03:21 PM

yeah now he has a different weird one

2FNK?

06-12-2010, 03:59 PM

http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww318/coldhardclimber/Unnamed-1.jpg
Some shitty stuff I drew up, shouldn't have done the 3d.

http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww318/coldhardclimber/IMG00884-20100612-1536.jpg Hate the R and O, dislike the E a lot...

LeaksOne

06-12-2010, 04:02 PM

dont do that.

zennegen

06-12-2010, 04:06 PM

http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww318/coldhardclimber/Unnamed-1.jpg
Some shitty stuff I drew up, shouldn't have done the 3d.

http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww318/coldhardclimber/IMG00884-20100612-1536.jpg Hate the R and O, dislike the E a lot...

wait, you think that M is good? why are you using ramen letters, bro?

Zookyook

06-12-2010, 04:36 PM

from the last page it looks like tofe=safer .... looks like the same spot safers bombs were and some of the letters are real close to safers shit... es u da same person?!

..when i get bored, i try to do things different and out of my comfort zone,everyone goes apeshit everytime i dont post something thats simple,its just one drawing chill out yo

thats understandable but none of us have ever seen ur 'comfort zone'... and its not just one drawing its ALL ur drawings that lack structure and need to go simpler... just try block letters and see how it comes out mayn!!!

2fnk that looks like it says roavs... is it rome?

fuggin round with my one4alls, started as a throw then i got bored and sketched it into some wack ass piece lol i dont like it but ill post...;-)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/4694437916_b4d34d3ae0.jpg

2FNK?

06-12-2010, 04:45 PM

Yeah, it says rome. Fuck my terrible letter structure.

I'm just gonna do a few simps.

RES4

06-12-2010, 04:50 PM

good idea

2FNK?

06-12-2010, 05:05 PM

http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww318/coldhardclimber/IMG00464-20100525-1824.jpg
Zookyook, here's the last thing I drew before I quit writing consume.

And yeah, I'm just not use to the new letters, getting a little over eager.

Amends_Ego

06-12-2010, 05:46 PM

zook-the color scheme your rocking isnt bad at all, structure is lacking, but i like what you did with the bubbles, you said you used one4alls? and just to be clear whats it say?

it says con... and yea i know my structure on that shit was non existent haha, like i said i was just gonna do a throw but i started fuckin around and put some highlights and chunks and other ugly shit on it... its weak haha, but yea one4alls are great, if u can afford them i highly recommend

Yeah I can make some pretty dope C's... Another reason that I need to change my name is because Mogan is short a letter from my real name Morgan lol... Kinda stupid I know but I like my name... Cemo will be my test name...
BTW nice Simp

Nah, to be completely honest, I'd keep away from painting for now tofe. You don't have the basics down yet and you've been posting for quite awhile with little progression/ demonstration of an understanding of basic letter structure. I'd back up off the painting until you get something decent on paper. You'll thank me later.

A little something I'm working on for a buddy of mine:
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj168/Griffery0508/Photo39.jpg

IbuprofenTablets

06-13-2010, 08:38 PM

They have GIMP for mac, yo.
I have it on my computer.
http://gimp.lisanet.de/Website/Download.html

Nice find, dude.
It may have been obvious to some, but I went on for years thinking GIMP was on PC exclusively.

IbuprofenTablets

06-14-2010, 11:43 PM

Yeah I can make some pretty dope C's... Another reason that I need to change my name is because Mogan is short a letter from my real name Morgan lol... Kinda stupid I know but I like my name... Cemo will be my test name...
BTW nice Simp

Dude, you've been flipping the same style for a minute now, time to flip a new one. like, it looks real proper, but i think it's your time to progress.
try fucking around with different forms.