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Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

Originally Posted by j-mac

Except we are not talking about the faults of conservatives over the past decade in this thread. What we are talking about is liberal/union thuggery, and your insistence that every time libs slip up and reveal who they really are, must be blamed on repubs, or at the very least excused with the all famous 'see, they do it too'....

pfft...get real please.

j-mac

Famous indeed. I know exactly what conservatives would like to confine discussion in this thread to. Thankfully, I don't have to play by your rules. I interpret "get real" to mean get in touch with reality, and I encourage you to do the same by taking a step back and rereading the original post for what it is, which is "see, liberals do it too" post. We will never see civility until both parties take accountability. I already said Hoffa is an embarrassment. I have yet to see any conservative disclaim the remarks of their own. End of story.

Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

Originally Posted by Jetboogieman

Ah, its sweeping generalization time.

Please elaborate on this statement J-Mac.

What would you like to know? Should we start with Obama's campaign of '08 and the 'spread the wealth around' remarks of our current dear leader, or maybe Maxine Waters telling the head of an oil company that she is about 'socializing,....er, um....taking....um over your business....' You pick.

j-mac

Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.
Alexis de Tocqueville

Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

Originally Posted by j-mac

What would you like to know? Should we start with Obama's campaign of '08 and the 'spread the wealth around' remarks of our current dear leader, or maybe Maxine Waters telling the head of an oil company that she is about 'socializing,....er, um....taking....um over your business....' You pick.

Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

Originally Posted by j-mac

When another Kenneth Gladney gets stomped by union thugs, will you then denounce this "call to battle" language crap? Or will you find a way to blame the victim of union thuggery?

j-mac

Two charged in scuffle at St. Louis County meeting found not guilty
He never got stomped by union thugs. The best you can say is that he got pushed down, where as one SEIU member dislocated his shoulder. From the video it's not obvious at all who started it and it can be attributed to people being too riled up on both sides. The two union guys were found not guilty. Come back to reality and join us J-Mac.

Originally Posted by TurtleDude

uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources

**Thirty Minutes Later**

Originally Posted by TurtleDude

you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

Originally Posted by roughdraft274

Two charged in scuffle at St. Louis County meeting found not guilty
He never got stomped by union thugs. The best you can say is that he got pushed down, where as one SEIU member dislocated his shoulder. From the video it's not obvious at all who started it and it can be attributed to people being too riled up on both sides. The two union guys were found not guilty. Come back to reality and join us J-Mac.

Wow, how sad. I guess assault is fine now if you have a good enough lawyer, and do community service in a plea deal to lessen the charges.

j-mac

Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.
Alexis de Tocqueville

Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

Originally Posted by j-mac

Wow, how sad. I guess assault is fine now if you have a good enough lawyer, and do community service in a plea deal to lessen the charges.

j-mac

I think you're missing the whole not guilty thing J-Mac. They weren't convicted of lesser charges. They were found not guilty on all charges because the guy that you are holding up as some huge victim of union thuggery is a liar. Quite a poor liar btw. Just because your desperate for anything to blame on unions doesn't mean you can parade around this liar and expect everyone not to laugh at you after watching the video of what actually happened (as opposed to this guys multiple stories of how it happened)

Originally Posted by TurtleDude

uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources

**Thirty Minutes Later**

Originally Posted by TurtleDude

you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

Originally Posted by Objective Voice

Actually, I did not have a problem with Sarah Palin's "Don't retreat, reload" rhetorical jab. What I DID have a problem with, however, were the "simulated" crosshairs over the geographic locations of Democrat congressional or district offices and would have had a problem with it no matter which side of the political divide the image was placed over. Nonetheless, doing such on the backdrop of her comment could easily have been taken out of context by some gun totting idiot such as the shooter behind Congresswoman Gifford's near fatal attack. Now, notice I did not say his actions were directly attributed to Palin's comment nor the crosshairs images as motivation behind his shooting rampage. But it could have easily been taken that way either by some mad man (or woman) or someone out looking for a little payback against a liberal politician. You just have to be careful about what you say and do. That said, context does mean alot!

Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

Originally Posted by j-mac

I think you have this 100% backwards...Hoffa can say what ever he wants, its a free country, for the moment. However, don't you even try and say that his rhetoric wouldn't be called out by every liberal if said by say a Palin, or Angle, or any republican.

Hoffa is the leader of the teamers union so I repeat it for you again he has not just the right but a duty to talk to and try to get his members to the voting booth. As far as the rest of your he said/she said bull who cares

Oh please lay out that plan would you?

First all you have to do is follow the money path this is not rocket science 93% of this nations wealth is now controlled by 20 percent of the nations people, how do the rich get rich while the middle class and poor get poorer

The Federal Reserve creates inflation with only one purpose: to transfer the accumulated wealth of ordinary Americans to the top one percent of the income distribution. The Federal Reserve accomplishes its class warfare agenda through the mechanism of inflation, a stealth tax if there ever was one and of course the basis of the borrow and spend doctrine of the Republican Party which is actually the source of the fiscal crisis they create, through endless wars. The class warfare agenda is very clear: cut taxes on the rich while raising the stealth tax of inflation on everyone else. The rich are smart enough to understand this game and front-run the Fed by buying commodities, and gold to profit from Fed inflation. Everyone one else gets socked with higher food and energy costs that lowers their standard of living.

Repubs fight new regs that would make speculation illegal or not profitable enough to invest in. Oil prices and other life essential needs are held off the market creating a supply problem driving up the prices on oil and any thing involved in the use of oil from gasoline to groceries the rich get rich at the expence of those fill thier pockets.

The repubs then cry to cut benefits from things like medicare,medicad, education and just about any program that aids the middle class and poor. They attack SS calling it a ponzi scheme hoping to effect changes in the way Americans save thier money from SS to private savings accounts invested in wall street. You know I see all of these millionare and billionaire Brokers and hedge fund managers where and how do they make money, If a person playing the market makes millions that money is coming from some where, where?

Not for private unions, I haven't seen one governmental attack at any state level by a republican bent on going after private union bargaining. The states like WI, and NJ that were asking public sector unions to adjust their pension systems, was distorted, and blown out of proportion by lib, union hacks as usual.

Spoken like a real conservative, unions fighting for thier right for collective bargaining are nothing but whiners is that what you are trying to sell?

When another Kenneth Gladney gets stomped by union thugs, will you then denounce this "call to battle" language crap? Or will you find a way to blame the victim of union thuggery?

I think in your haste to point your finger you forgot that people are innocent to proven guilty, these "union thugs" were found not quilty