First off some outstanding posts on here, Messrs Laimbeer, Cloud and LPG especially.

How are they going to beat Charlotte without a PG?!?!

dba, I am shocked also. How many people here complaining about this trade were complaining when the core came back in place? This is an interesting deal and I want, nay need to see it play out. This hurts DET's 3 point shooting, but I would think that's a good thing based on people’s opinions here.

AI has never had this type of talent around him. How will he fit on D?

On the plus side he can really show Stuckey how to play stoned.

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78 posts in 90 minutes, you have to wonder what this forum's reaction would have been if this had been CB for Carmelo trade??

First off some outstanding posts on here, Messrs Laimbeer, Cloud and LPG especially.

How are they going to beat Charlotte without a PG?!?!

dba, I am shocked also. How many people here complaining about this trade were complaining when the core came back in place? This is an interesting deal and I want, nay need to see it play out. This hurts DET's 3 point shooting, but I would think that's a good thing based on people’s opinions here.

AI has never had this type of talent around him. How will he fit on D?

On the plus side he can really show Stuckey how to play stoned.

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On the flip side, it will be interesting to see how CB fits in DEN. Will they become more half-court? Will GK's free wheeling approach kill his game? Will his stats go though the roof? One things for sure, he can say goodbye to the All-star team.

Also, can AI play 1/2 court effectively ? Philly was a half court team IIRC, but it was so long ago, i don't remember what it looked like.

A.I commands double teams. This could add some more life to our player's games

No one in the league is more hungry for a championship than A.I

Easy buckets

More playing time for our youth

The emergence of Hermann probably contributed to this deal

Denver is a much better team now. The team lacked the discipline that Chauncey can provide with the offense

A.I is my favorite player on my favorite team

I am in heaven!

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Even though I seem to favor this deal, there are some feelings involved as CB was a huge part of the team. But there are a couple of points I'd like to make in response. Double team on AI may mean more missed jumpers for others. Hermann only had one big game, against Wizards mind you. So, lets hold off on singing the praise as of yet. Although, I do like his game. Not sure how our youth will get more playing time with Dyess possibly coming back unless he retires and AI is on the court for 20-25 min. So there is some give or take on this, but the team should be quite a bit more exciting.

Cool Down Cowpokes.....I LOVE IT. AI, will not take the night off, he is the toughest little dude that plays the game, he will play hurt, injured, whatever.

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Agree, maybe this trade will eliminate some of the complacency w/ this team. Another positive is that we now have a guy who can carry the scoring for the team on any given night. Still, it is scary losing a good PG like CB, plus one of the only guys who is willing to bang down low in Dice. Hope Joe as another move up his sleeve for a rebounder. Wonder if this was a fill the seats kinda of move.

A.I commands double teams. This could add some more life to our player's games

No one in the league is more hungry for a championship than A.I

Easy buckets

More playing time for our youth

The emergence of Hermann probably contributed to this deal

Denver is a much better team now. The team lacked the discipline that Chauncey can provide with the offense

A.I is my favorite player on my favorite team

I am in heaven!

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I watched NBA TV and Rich Kamla (sp) doing hs fantasy recap this morning, it must have taped since he didn't mention the trade) He indicated that AI was not happy with losing his "captainship", but I am not sure if he did or not...well now he has....He also advised that AI was asking to be traded.

The trade hasn't been approved yet as Dice is pondering his options. Doesn't seem like he wants to go to Denver and just rather retire.

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More on that;

Pistons' trade of Billups for Iverson hits a snag by A. Sherrod Blakely Monday November 03, 2008, 11:09 AM The tentative trade between the Detroit Pistons and the Denver Nuggets may have hit a snag.

While the key players in the trade remain Pistons guard Chauncey Billups and top reserve Antonio McDyess for Denver's Allen Iverson, McDyess' reluctance to be included in the deal may become an issue. "Dice is not happy at all (about the possible trade)," said Andy Miller, who is the agent for both Billups and McDyess.

Miller said the 34-year-old McDyess is considering several options, including retirement. Billups, however, isn't as torn about the trade.

That makes sense considering Billups is a Denver native, and by most accounts is considered one of the greatest prep players to ever come out of Denver.

"From Chauncey's point of view, its kind of a mixed bag of feelings," Miller said. "He feels very good about what he's done in Detroit, the legacy he has left. And coming back home to Denver, it's sort of like coming full circle for him."

For Detroit, the trade has several ramifications now as well as for the franchise's future.

By trading away Billups and McDyess for Iverson, the Pistons would shave about $34 million off their books in salary over the next three seasons. Billups makes $11.05 million this season and has another three years remaining on his contract, while McDyess will make about $6.8 million and he has another year after this season. Iverson is in the last year of his deal which pays $20.84 million this season.

The trade also provides Detroit with a dynamic player who has been among the league's top players for more than a decade, and will surely help get a few more warm bodies in The Palace.

we do lose a LOT of 3-point shooting with this deal, which i thought could be used more with stuckey and billups playing together...stuckey driving and kicking to billups in the corner for the 3 where he's shot almost 50% in his career.

on the other hand, AI seems to be more of a curry-type guy. someone who can drive and get in the lane and open things up, as well as generate his own offense when ours stagnates (as has happened the past several years with no go-to guy). it's definitely something the team has struggled with in the playoffs the past few years. with any luck he can teach stuckey a thing or two about finishing.

i'm not sure if dice will come back, but even if he doesn't i don't think that is a huuuuge loss, because i can't figure out what his role on the team is. you saw how much of a weapon herrmann can be, especially since he's capable of playing power forward...you throw him out there instead of dice at the end of games and you have a driving/3-point threat that you never had before (especially since dice's offense is limited strictly to pick-and-pop/roll jumpers now).

we do lose some size at PG and the ability to back down smaller guards, but then again the ECF isn't exactly brimming with bigger guards to keep up with. rondo and mo williams? they're not going to post up AI and he's got a much better shot of staying in front of them.

our athleticism is greatly improved in the starting unit now. AI doesn't have to play 40+ minutes anymore.

we are much better prepared to spend $ next year and the years following.