@dosquatch: Are you serious?!? You honestly believe most obese people are fat because they're forced to eat unhealthy food to fit their budget? That is the stupidest thing I've read in at least a month. Just because you can get 5 double cheeseburgers for $5 doesn't mean you have to eat that many to survive. If they really were short on money they would eat less, even if the food is unhealthy.

@darkdrag0n: Are you serious? dosquatch's point wasn't "Oh i can get 5 cheeseburgers for $5 so I'll do that instead of spending that $5 on something heathy" The point is that people who only have $10 or $20 to feed them for a week cannot afford to buy lean meats and produce so they're going to be less healthy than someone who can. Even if they eat LESS hotdogs and ramen, they're still eating hotdogs and ramen.

It has less to do with how much you eat and more to do with glucose response. Starchy foods spike blood sugar, which spikes insulin, which stores the excess sugar as fat. Cheap foods use lots of sugars and starches as fillers. It's biology and chemistry, dude.

Or have I missed the epedimic of obese vegetarians?

You wanna fix the obesity problem? Fix the quality of our diets, and quantity will fix itself.

@mr2gts: You're only partially right. You can control a waistline by controlling calories. Weight Watchers makes bank on that. What's missed is that, when you sell inexpensive foods loaded with fats, starches, and sugars, it is impossibly easy to overindulge calorically without actually eating a lot of quantity.

That still doesn't change the biology, though, and dietically worse foods have a far more pronounced effect on energy levels and waistlines than the same amount of calories of dietically better foods.

Which was, and still is, my original point. Fix the quality, and quantity takes care of itself.

for example i can live off of $5 a week if i eat ramen, but if i try to eat food of any nutritional quality its going to cost me $5 a day. This is coming from someone who works two jobs and goes to college and can barely pay the rent.

Biology does play a huge role in how well you metabolize those starches and sugars. I've seen people thinner than me eat twice as much. However, for the average American it's more about what's available to them. Not to say all rich people who can afford healthy foods are thin, but the obesity problem is higher in lower income brackets for multiple reasons. Biology, accessibility to stores that sell healthy foods, and cost. Produce and dairy product prices are going through the roof. Forget lean meats. Your getting the fattiest part of the cow for 44 cents a pound, because you can't afford the 93%. A can of fat free Pringles cost double or three times as much as the fatty kind. So in sum, the cheap stuff is the junk food. Eating less is a bad idea when trying to lose weight or staying healthy. Eating healthy foods is the best way to lose weight and remain healthy. There’s got to be some way to produce healthier foods at a lower cost.

Speaking as someone who is on a low carb diet, most cheesecakes are fairly low carb to begin with. Not a lot of sugar goes into a cheesecake, and the graham cracker crust is low glycemic. If you can make a good regular cheesecake, low carb is easy.

That being said, this is horribly overpriced and is from a horrible restaurant.

Check their nutrition information, this is the only low carb item on the menu.

@darkdrag0n: Sorry, what you said is definitely the uneducated statement. You've forgotten that the more you eat processed, fatty hi-g foods, the more food you need because you aren't getting the nutrition you need so the body says EAT MORE!

@topshopgamer: That study is mind-bogglingly stupid. The obesity/diet soda correlation is more due to the fact that someone who drinks two cans of soda a day likely has a psychological addiction to sweets, little self-control, and is unwilling to significantly alter their diet to become healthy. The diet soda itself, aka artificial sweeteners, does not CAUSE obesity, good grief. And I realize you aren't saying it CAUSES obesity, just that it's linked--however, the sweeteners themselves are not the problem. The problem is--and continues to be so for almost all people with weight issues--moderation.

@zollars23: No no no... Cheesecakes have tons of carbs. I just made a pumpkin cheesecake this weekend and used two 8oz pkgs of cream cheese, a full cup of sugar and TONS of butter in the crust. For 4 oz of crumbs there was a half stick of butter. I think the crust alone was 1200 calories. lol...

@dosquatch: Agreed. I think we can also agree that cheesecake is bad, bad, bad, but oh so good, good, good. We are screwed either way if we eat too much cheesecake. Regardless of whether it's fat free, sugar free, low carb, non-dairy, etc. Now, who said something about growing a cheesecake tree? I want some of that organic cheesecake!

The problem is ignorance and ... well, people who think they have to have meat at every sitting: obstinance. They swear by it, but you feed 'em a Boca burger or a TVP chili and they wouldn't know the difference. It's the fat and salt they crave.

Get off the animal fats, and Type 2 Diabetes evaporates. No shots. Also flavor makes a comeback, instead of it all being masked by grease and MSG.

They fed one group yogurt+sugar, the other group yogurt + artificial sweetener. The artificially sweetened yogurt led to obesity.

It is theorized that artificial sweeteners disassociate the taste of calories with actual consumption of calories, and because taste/smell is the only short acting method the body has to estimate caloric intake, you overshoot your eating waiting until your stomach is full. Plus, because you don't know how much sugar you ate, you body doesn't up its metabolism like it usually would after sugar consumption.

@crycis805: $5 worth of real food - 2 cans of beans, 1 can of corn, 2 cans of diced tomatoes, 1/2 lb ground beef, and packet of seasonings and you have enough soup to eat all week. And FAR more nutritious than ramen. When eaten in the correct portion sizes, most recipes will make several meals worth of food.

Most people seem to think groceries only make one meal and is therefore more expensive. When the grocery bill is divided by the number of meals it makes, the per meal cost is far lower than people think. And usually quite competitive or outright lower than fast food prices.

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