Let us keep this topic friendly positive, so Rusty or Bill NY does not have to close the topic.

I am starting this topic conversation on traffic cameras. Bottom line is we would not need the cameras if everyone would comply with the law. I will quote comments from other postings for the convenience of reading them in one place.

Originally posted by Kevin:Many of the surrounding areas in my home town have the Photo "Police" also. The photo police relax and enjoy donuts and coffee while parked. The Photo Police captures photos of unsafe drivers. The photos are sent back to the owners of the vehicles by way of snail mail. The pictures of the unsafe operator include a ticket to the vehicle owner. NO the ticket is not to the Pgh. Pirate game. It asks you the owner of the vehicle to please return some money to the address enclosed. In many cases if you do not forward the money for the ticket(s) you can get Free room and board, for a few days or month.

Kevin, This wouldn't work..Moving violations have to go to the driver of the vehicle at the time of the violation occurrence. The owner may have not been driving at the time.. Absentee tickets are usually just equipment, license tags or parking violations when no driver is present..

Originally posted by MWrench:In Fremont CA, they employee stop light cameras. Cops are no where around. You roll thru a red light, the flash goes off and you receive a ticket in he mail. Cameras are good and can clearly show the drivers face in most instances. The ticket comes from the company that owns the camera system from Arizona. It is reviewed by an officer (he will be in court if you try to fight it) and then the ticket is sent along with the video link of you busting the red light from Arizona company. You can fight it but so far Fremont has a very high rate of success with red light cameras in court.

We here even in Iowa have speed and red light cameras, I have been ticketed by two myself. Some group had the state look at the placement of several of them and determined they were there for the sake of revenue only and made the locals remove them, one of them got me, they have not refunded my money though.

I also heard but did not verify that if you did not pay the tickets there was nothing the local police could do to get the fine. I do assume if you got caught red handed by a cop in that community they would get you for those offences.

On a trip to visit our son in Pennsylvania, we traveled through Washington, DC. When I returned home I received a speeding ticket in the mail with a picture of the rear of my truck with the license clearly visible. 62 in a 55 zone fine $100.00. A week later another ticket!!!! Time 15 minutes later. 63 in a 55 zone fine $100.00. We now go up I-77 & I-81.

Found this above, although I think you mean California Highway Patrol.[/QUOTE]

Not one in a million people, fewer in the poster’s state of CA, would think “chp” is a reference to genital mutilation (or adornment). Abbreviations, in forum posts, texts and emails, are efficient and usually appropriate.

Here is the constitutional problem with citations based solely on cameras:The Confrontation Clause found in the Sixth Amendment provides that "in all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right…to be confronted with the witnesses against him."Is the camera a witness (accuser)?Does having a law enforcement officer view the image (after the fact) make him/her a legitimate witness?

Originally posted by Mike/Cindi W:only you would think something like that.."Express yourself in a positive way"..geez..

Just one of the many abbreviations for the initials. I keep in mind we have nearly 4000 members and not even 10% are from California. Spell comments out so everyone can know exactly what you are thinking. According to your link the Highway Patrol in California, are not "sneaky" at all. The common goal the Highway Patrol in every state is safety.

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