Brings up an interesting question of whether you can be trespassing when the owners of a property are not in agreement.

Make it less dramatic: Your wife has an out-of-town relative come to visit. You tell the relative they have to leave. The wife tells the relative to stay. You call the police to have the relative removed. What happens?

swingerofbirches:Brings up an interesting question of whether you can be trespassing when the owners of a property are not in agreement.

Yes, do you not remember the case in Florida like this where the husband killed the guy in self-defense and the jury bought it? I do not agree with that logic but there it is. To my mind if the owners do not agree and you are there at the invitation of one then that is a dispute between the two owners and has nothing to do with you, whatsoever.

The one issue that makes this case different is that the dumbass started yelling at the old man. That gives the guy an excuse to say he felt threatened. But at least this old guy, for whatever it is worth, has more respect than the guy in Florida.

swingerofbirches:Brings up an interesting question of whether you can be trespassing when the owners of a property are not in agreement.

Make it less dramatic: Your wife has an out-of-town relative come to visit. You tell the relative they have to leave. The wife tells the relative to stay. You call the police to have the relative removed. What happens?

It gets really complicated and full of legal intricacies. But, short of solving things, you stop to realize that, of the 3 of you, at least one is an insufferable ass who is trying to make life hell for the others and has no desire for a rational resolution. The real problem is something entirely different, so nobody actually tries to solve this little made-up fiasco. Unless it gets violent.

So, generally, the police try to get you and your wife to figure it out and the relative finds somewhere else to stay.

I used to work with a guy who picked up women outside divorce court. I wish I was kidding. He'd hang around outside and give them some variant of "Hey let's go spend some of your ex's money! It'll really piss him off to see you with me!". It worked more often than you'd think. He slowed down after the death threats started but he stopped completely when his vehicle caught fire twice in a month and a half.

I used to work with a guy who picked up women outside divorce court. I wish I was kidding. He'd hang around outside and give them some variant of "Hey let's go spend some of your ex's money! It'll really piss him off to see you with me!". It worked more often than you'd think. He slowed down after the death threats started but he stopped completely when his vehicle caught fire twice in a month and a half.

Pretty sure he could have shot both of them and plead to temporary insanity, and walked. He wouldn't have to kill them. Just a couple shots to the legs in an attempt to render tham both wheelchair bound for the rest of their lives.

swingerofbirches:Brings up an interesting question of whether you can be trespassing when the owners of a property are not in agreement.

Make it less dramatic: Your wife has an out-of-town relative come to visit. You tell the relative they have to leave. The wife tells the relative to stay. You call the police to have the relative removed. What happens?

BroncoFan_17:Pretty sure he could have shot both of them and plead to temporary insanity, and walked. He wouldn't have to kill them. Just a couple shots to the legs in an attempt to render tham both wheelchair bound for the rest of their lives.

Nina_Hartley's_Ass:violentsalvation: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: violentsalvation: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Old man has Parkinson's. Should he have a gun?

Derp.

Cognitive disturbances can occur in the initial stages of the disease and sometimes prior to diagnosis, and increase in prevalence with duration of the disease.

So much for the "it's a mental health problem" diversion.

I didn't know you were the patient's neurologist, Dr. Ass.

Oh, that's right. We wait til AFTER he kills someone and THEN complain about the failure of mental health care in this country.

I relentlessly complain about the state of mental health care in this country. You consistently pick articles apart looking for any random circumstance you can attach your anti-gun talking points to. In this case you've disregarded a justified "warning shot" in favor of e-diagnosing a Parkinson's patient's mental faculties.

A "warning shot" from a guy who takes a shotgun to go look for his wife.

He took his cane.

He fired a "warning shot" with his cane?

"The man used his cane to poke Chapman to wake up him and tell him to leave.

Chapman began to yell profanities at the man and refused to leave, the release said.

The man then said he was going to call the sheriff's department to ask for help and as he went to get his phone and gun for protection, "Chapman came charging towards him in a threatening manner," the release said.

The man fired a "warning shot" at Chapman and the round struck a wall and injured Chapman's hand."

violentsalvation:The man then said he was going to call the sheriff's department to ask for help and as he went to get his phone and gun for protection, "Chapman came charging towards him in a threatening manner," the release said.

The shotgun by the phone in the guest house? Or the shotgun by his phone in his bedroom that he hobbled along on his cane through the yard and the house to get to before the twenty-two year old finally caught up to him?

Nina_Hartley's_Ass:violentsalvation: The man then said he was going to call the sheriff's department to ask for help and as he went to get his phone and gun for protection, "Chapman came charging towards him in a threatening manner," the release said.

The shotgun by the phone in the guest house? Or the shotgun by his phone in his bedroom that he hobbled along on his cane through the yard and the house to get to before the twenty-two year old finally caught up to him?

You go ahead and concoct a scenario that makes sense here.

Look, if you *know* what happened is contrary to the single sentence in the article that describes it then you were one of the three people involved. You do seem to have a thing for old lady ass, so tell us how it happened.