Just making this the all purpose O'Reilly is a fool thread. As for me I'd much rather have two guys kissing than mayo. Fewer fat grams and calories too AHA, spreading the GAY AGENDA with mayonnaise. I KNEW IT!!

Bill O'Reilly is not happy about a new UK ad for Heinz mayo that depicts two men kissing. The ad, which debuted earlier this week, runs with the tagline "Give your BLT a little NYC" and promises that the mayo is so good, it's like you have your own New York deli man in your kitchen.

Fox News host Bill O'Reilly spent some time on Friday's show crying out against the ad. His comments below:

"So why are they doing that? Why -- it was. It was obviously a gay thing. Now I don't know what the message is, other than gay people like mayonnaise. ... I'm confused. This whole gender blending thing. It's confusing to me. ... I just want mayonnaise. I don't want guys kissing. "

What the hell does that mean, gender blending? I'm confused. Maybe it has to do with loofahs..

i think Bill is totally unaware that he's actually made an insightful comment -- or a comment that gives us insight into homophobia.

homophobia is, at it's root, sexism in disguise. what it does is threaten patriarchy, because it presents a reality where a man is "feminized" by a sex act, and it also eradicates the necessity of gender in a romantic relationship. homosexuality demonstrates the non-essentialism of traditional gender roles and reveals them to be social constructs predicated upon the perpetuation of patriarchy and when women get a whiff of this, then damn, we'll have anarchy on our hands.

of course, Bill was probably unaware that this is what he was really saying, but he did say it all the same.

homosexuality demonstrates the non-essentialism of traditional gender roles and reveals them to be social constructs predicated upon the perpetuation of patriarchy and when women get a whiff of this, then damn, we'll have anarchy on our hands.

I'm not sure that you've thought this one through.

If your argument above is correct, then it must logically follow that homosexuality is also a social construct predicated upon the perpetuation of - for want of a better word - 'gayness'. Which makes it a matter of choice.

If your argument above is correct, then it must logically follow that homosexuality is also a social construct predicated upon the perpetuation of - for want of a better word - 'gayness'. Which makes it a matter of choice.

i think you're making a leap.

sex = biology
gender = socialization

likewise, people are naturally born male or female, in the way that they are naturally born gay or straight. but they are socialized into roles based upon whatever biology they possess -- women = subordinate roles -- and these roles are reinforced by notions of essentialism that are designed to keep women in said subordinate role.

likewise,

sexual orientation = biology
sexual identity = socialization

thus, we have the phenomenon of what's known as "MSM" -- Men who have Sex with Men. often, at least in an American context, these are men from highly macho cultures who don't think of themselves as "gay" in any sense of the word, and the fact that they seek out male sexual partners is ignored in their social identity. i didn't choose to be homosexual, i did choose to "come out" and identify as a gay person. hence, you were born with a penis, you've chosen to play the role of male in society.