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Re: BREAKING NEWS: DG has called himself a chucker

I don't think many people argued that under the previous regime his purpose was to chuck three pointers. EVERYONE'S purpose was to chuck three pointers. The argument was whether or not it meant that was all he could or wanted to do. He is saying it is NOT what he is going to do and that he can do more.

BillS

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Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...

Re: BREAKING NEWS: DG has called himself a chucker

I don't think many people argued that under the previous regime his purpose was to chuck three pointers. EVERYONE'S purpose was to chuck three pointers. The argument was whether or not it meant that was all he could or wanted to do. He is saying it is NOT what he is going to do and that he can do more.

Right, that was his assigned role. Doesn't mean that's how he's going to fit into this team.

Re: BREAKING NEWS: DG has called himself a chucker

I don't think many people argued that under the previous regime his purpose was to chuck three pointers.EVERYONE'S purpose was to chuck three pointers. The argument was whether or not it meant that was all he could or wanted to do. He is saying it is NOT what he is going to do and that he can do more.

So are you saying that he was a chucker? I'll be waiting for the answer

Re: BREAKING NEWS: DG has called himself a chucker

I don't think many people argued that under the previous regime his purpose was to chuck three pointers. EVERYONE'S purpose was to chuck three pointers. The argument was whether or not it meant that was all he could or wanted to do. He is saying it is NOT what he is going to do and that he can do more.

What can he do other than chuck it?

Pass? Nope.

Dribble? Don't think so.

Defend? Not this year with that knee.

Shoot? Ok, that he can definitely do. But let's not get carried away. He got his numbers on bad teams and was the only decent player. We probably have 4 or 5 guys on this team who are better players than a healthy Danny Granger.

Shoot? Ok, that he can definitely do. But let's not get carried away. He got his numbers on bad teams and was the only decent player. We probably have 4 or 5 guys on this team who are better players than a healthy Danny Granger.

He dribbles and move well in traffic and was a solid defender especially against bigger wings. We'll see how his defense comes back but he was moving well at the end of the preseason. His shooting is a given. In all he should add a lot to this team once he's back in the flow. He doesn't have to even be the Granger of 2011 to really help this team.

Re: BREAKING NEWS: DG has called himself a chucker

He dribbles and move well in traffic and was a solid defender especially against bigger wings. We'll see how his defense comes back but he was moving well at the end of the preseason. His shooting is a given. In all he should add a lot to this team once he's back in the flow. He doesn't have to even be the Granger of 2011 to really help this team.

I agree we could use him. He could help us quite a bit. But other than shooting and his size, what exactly does he bring that Orlando Johnson does not? That is really my main question.

With that said, I'm not saying OJ is close to as good as a healthy Granger. Danny has size and is a good scorer and great shooter. He is the best shooter on this team. I think he's a better shooter than Paul. So, he's going to help if he's 80%. But make no mistake. Danny will not be 100% this year and he will be a shadow of his former self...and it's too late for the man to return to form. You get past 30 and not play competitive basketball for going on 2 years and you just don't make it back.

Edit: He does not dribble and move well in traffic. He makes Paul George look like Kobe and Lance Stephenson look like Jamaal Tinsley.

Shoot? Ok, that he can definitely do. But let's not get carried away. He got his numbers on bad teams and was the only decent player. We probably have 4 or 5 guys on this team who are better players than a healthy Danny Granger.

Re: BREAKING NEWS: DG has called himself a chucker

Roy, Paul, Lance and David West are all better than Granger. They are so good they are making George Hill get heat around here. We have great players, not just good. This is not the JOb era when Granger is compared to Josh McRoberts, Troy Murphy and Mike Dunleavy. I can assure you that David West would look like a stud with that group too.

Edit: Seriously, one can argue that Lance isn't as good because he's not matured yet. But who would get paid more on the open market? Paul or Danny? Roy or Danny? DWest or Danny? DWest used to give us fits and easily matched Danny in those games as a Hornet.

Re: BREAKING NEWS: DG has called himself a chucker

I agree we could use him. He could help us quite a bit. But other than shooting and his size, what exactly does he bring that Orlando Johnson does not? That is really my main question.

With that said, I'm not saying OJ is close to as good as a healthy Granger. Danny has size and is a good scorer and great shooter. He is the best shooter on this team. I think he's a better shooter than Paul. So, he's going to help if he's 80%. But make no mistake. Danny will not be 100% this year and he will be a shadow of his former self...and it's too late for the man to return to form. You get past 30 and not play competitive basketball for going on 2 years and you just don't make it back.

Edit: He does not dribble and move well in traffic. He makes Paul George look like Kobe and Lance Stephenson look like Jamaal Tinsley.

We'll have to agree to disagree on Danny moving well with the ball. Danny does a lot more then just stand at the 3 point line and shoot. He wouldn't get to the free throw line so much if he didn't move with the ball and if healthy he gets to the line at a higher rate then any other Pacer.
I agree with you that we most likely won't see a 100% Granger this year, if we do it would only be because he stayed on the court for the rest of the season and started to really shine at the very end. However a healthy Granger, not peak Granger by say Granger 2011 is a better offensive player then anyone except for Paul and I'd say our 2cd. to 3rd. best player at this point. Lance, West, Scola and Hill aren't as good as Granger was. Granger wasn't just decent he led this team for 5 years prior to his injury, let's not forget how good he was just because he's been out. I'm not going to go out on a limb and say how good he's going to be though, this lengthy injury has frustrated me far too much.

Look, I'm really not trying to turn this into a debate between the two of them because at this point Paul is the superior player by a good margin, but this comment that Danny was just a "chucker" is a bit silly. His year 4 season was every bit as impressive statistically as what Paul is doing.

You know what the difference was and is? Do any of you remember our most used 5 man lineup that year? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Here I'll remind you

TJ Ford
Marquis Daniels
Danny Granger
Troy Murphy
Rasho Nesterovic

compare that to

George Hill
Lance Stephenson
Paul George
David West
Roy Hibbert

So yeah 2009 Danny Granger was a fantastic player, no he was not the defender Paul is, but dude was more than just a chucker. Just because he got hurt and also aged doesn't mean we should forget what he was able to do just so we can have a nice narrative. Because remember we have no idea what the future holds for Paul yet.

Shoot? Ok, that he can definitely do. But let's not get carried away. He got his numbers on bad teams and was the only decent player. We probably have 4 or 5 guys on this team who are better players than a healthy Danny Granger.

Its amazing the guy is even in the NBA. Let alone was an all star. And got invited to Team USA. He cant play basketball at all. He can just get that orange ball in the hoop occasionally.