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Being the 3rd and 4th best players on a bad team is not an accomplishment, and I'm not saying I wouldn't have traded for one of those guys, just not for the cost equal or greater than what the Twins got in both deals.

While our speed and defense would have improved, out offense would not and we'd still be complaining about punchless hitters that hit singles and nothing else.

You couldn't possibly tell me that if the Mets acquired Revere that he doesn't instantly become the best outfielder on the Mets who had an anemic outfield last season consisting of the likes of Bay, Duda, Torres, Kirk, Baxter & Valdespin at times. Hairston was the best offensive outfielder we had but is a below average defender.

2. May is looking more and more like a bullpen guy (that could change, but he's headed that way...he just can't find strike zone)

3. WE have a young cost controlled centerfielder for years to come...He needs work getting on base a little more but he's only 24.

Good trade

An excellent trade for you guys IMO. Young and very talented. I have been clamoring for Revere since last trade deadline thinking that Minnesota was going fishing early that the Mets would be smart and pick up Revere but alas I was disappointed. Somebody mentioned on here that he is a 24 year old Juan Pierre and I couldn't agree more.

Because that first team had a combined WAR greater than the second team,

So it's obviously the better team, right??

Oh, um.. you lose!

Before Ike came up I was hoping the Mets would just sign LaRoche and most people on here called him a scrub. He was one of the main reasons the Nats won 98 games last season, won a silver slugger award and a gold glove. Not bad for a vagabond scrub.

Revere is barely a quality starting CF. His offense is garbage. You can find better CFers out there. Its not that hard. He is decent, but not irreplaceably good. Lets not make him out to be a valuable commodity.

Ike on the other hand is just an average 1st baseman right now. This is correct. However, he still has massive upside and its more likely than not that he will begin to show what he can do sooner rather than later.

In this situation you just gotta use common sense and understand that Ike is a better player than the stats have indicated. He was good in the minors. He had a solid rookie year. He was off to a good start his sophomore year but got hurt. Then he struggled like hell for the first 2 months of last season. That could have been due to valley fever or pure rust, but he bounced back and actually played well from June on. Ike will be fine. He is vastly superior to Revere, who is barely a starting CF who only starts because he has speed and is decent in the field in a scarce position...but he makes very little impact at the plate at the end of the day.

There is no smart argument here. I'd rather have a gaping hole at CF and Ike at 1B than Revere and CF and someone like Duda playing 1B.

You will soon come to realize how unfairly you are underrating Ike, and how its ridiculous to make claim that Revere is a more valuable commodity.

How is .294/.333/.342 with 40 Stolen basis out of your CF "garbage"? Do ever pay attention to players from other teams or do you never take off your blue and orage glasses?

You must've had studs in your outfield the last few years to find Revere's offense "garbage".

Simply put, Revere would be the best outfielder on the Mets right now. But that isn't saying much. If it had only taken Gee to get him then I would do it. But I wouldn't trade Gee and Familia/Fulmer/Tapia for Revere. He's not enough of an impact player.

Simply put, Revere would be the best outfielder on the Mets right now. But that isn't saying much. If it had only taken Gee to get him then I would do it. But I wouldn't trade Gee and Familia/Fulmer/Tapia for Revere. He's not enough of an impact player.

I think the frustration here is that the Mets have a dire need for three major league outfielders and all we see is other teams like the Phillies trading for major league outfielders.

Hell, as bad as our outfield was last year it might even be worse in 2013 since we've already lost our best hitting outfielder, Scott Hairston.

Now THAT's pathetic.

That said:

Scott Hairston came out of nowhere these last two seasons. Nothing in his past suggested he would ever hit like he did in 2011 and 2012. I'm betting that he will be the next player to test positive.

"Ain't got the call no more. Got a lot of sinful idears – but they seem kinda sensible...."