I like the idea of alchemy playing a huge part in a game but moe kills this series for me.Are any of the atelier games lighter on the moe and heavier on the gameplay side of things?I've already played kamidori alchemy meister.

I miss the days when Gust could get nice VAs like Ai Nonaka or Mai Kadowaki for their games instead of whos. Ar tonelico 2 had Miyuki Sawashiro and Ami Koshimizu as leads. Wish we could have that again.

12 months ago

Noah Hill

It's not just performance but the voice quality seems to be off. Suelle in battle for example has uneven voice pitch and sometimes her lines would end abruptly. It's like they were being rushed or something. Nevermind that the Opening song has no harmony at all.

12 months ago

Christopher Thomas

Speaking of Ar tonelico, is it any good?

12 months ago

Caleb Bennett

Atelier iris first good as fuckManachemia 1 tooAr tonelico 1-2 but these ones are DEEP

12 months ago

Bentley Cruz

It's the best thing Gust made. And the worst too, in case of the third game.

Depends what you're looking for. The gameplay is never very good, to be honest. The good part is the setting and the characters. The first game is pretty good but plays things kinda safe, while the second game doesn't (I really want to talk more about this but it'd be spoilers so I can't) so it ends up a lot better. Third game isn't as good as the second but it's still good.The best part of the game is just the cosmospheres which are entirely character interaction though, so if you don't want that then you won't like the games. Like, the game just turns into a VN and people talk for twenty minutes. That's the good part. If you don't want that you won't like Ar tonelico.Also the music is fucking amazing. I want to post the entire OST but I can't so I'll just post these four tracks and leave it at that. Shit's so good.youtube.com/watch?v=Thrl3fFGgdEyoutube.com/watch?v=kV2pSqm_0Dsyoutube.com/watch?v=qU112uhON7Myoutube.com/watch?v=ITiDgo3DHWY

12 months ago

Easton Long

No, play 1. The combat is really basic, but everything else is just as good as 2. But you're not playing these games for the combat anyway.

12 months ago

Eli Gutierrez

Everything in L&S feels bit worse. I'm not fond of Suelle voice either, but she isn't as bad as Lucia. Her squeaking hurts my ears.

12 months ago

Matthew Clark

1 is good tooAnd lore wise i wouldnt reccomend to play 2 without 1, there are so much in those games, lots of story, geography, biology, conceptions, reyvateils origins, d-cellophane, tower, goddess administrtors, languages

2 is certainly best game ever, but first one good too

12 months ago

Hudson Perry

the feeling when nuGust will never reach level of kino because of Koei Tecmo

I ll tell you, i dont really like those hymnos because they are mostly ewwwww

But overall soundtrack of 1-2 at games are really good, especially themes with voices, whispers, "i shall give you endless earth", map themes of second game variarions, bath theme, dive songs, lots of them

Like 99% of ost are godlikeBut hymnos songs i dont like

12 months ago

Christian Cook

2 builds off 1 a lot so you should really play 1 first.That's not true. The second tower is way more interesting than the first, and the girls are way better in 2. Even if you hate them (and you shouldn't, don't make me break out the Luca pasta), they're still much better characters.

Anyone else disappointed that there are only few playable characters in new ateliers? Plactha, Ilmeria, Liana, Lucia, Cory, Drossel are just npcs now.

12 months ago

Wyatt Johnson

Ilmeria is gonna be a DLC partner, and so is the red haired childhood friend.But yeah I see what you mean. The only new adds is the knight guy and white haired lady boy.

12 months ago

Samuel Brooks

Of course I'm getting an undub, where do you think we are?

You got yourself a convert, fags, but there better be yuri.

12 months ago

Parker Sullivan

Well raki glitch just doesnt allow you to fight one optional boss more than one-two times

12 months ago

Brody Collins

If you want yuri, be sure to waifu Jaqli in Ar Tonelico 2 because this means that Luca and Cloche become gay life partners in the end.

12 months ago

Camden Cook

You romance the girls as the male protagonist so if you want yuri you better bring in some thick goggles.

12 months ago

Alexander Morris

I will be long done with this game before they add Ilmeria and Lucia as dlc. Who ever wanted 2 generic guys as new additions. I rather have Oskar and even Hagel than this.

12 months ago

Isaiah Williams

Well, Croix does look like a girl. Maybe he can pretend Croix is a girl.

12 months ago

Colton Thompson

Raki glitch doesn't happen unless you're playing on an actual PS2. And, I mean, that's possible, but at this point I think it's safe to assume most people will just emulate.Ar tonelico 2 is actually special in that it has dual audio by default, but you still need a fucking undub. NISA cut out like 80% of the dialogue in the original release for no reason.

12 months ago

Nathan Taylor

because this means that Luca and Cloche become gay life partners in the end.

Not really but ok. I guess maybe if you pretend the only way two people can become close is if they want to fuck each other.

12 months ago

Robert Phillips

Gee user, way to make the rest of the Atelier series look bad now that I'm aware of this.

In AT2, you have 3 main love interests. Luca, Cloche and Jaqli. The former two are kind tsundere for each other because of circumstances meanwhile Jaqli doesnt care much for either of them. If you romance Jaqli, Luca and Cloche drop their hopes of ever getting your dick and so become gay for each other out of frustration.

12 months ago

Wyatt Scott

Her design is about as DS JRPG as it gets, the character designs probably wouldn't have gotten onto a mainline game.

From the ones I played Firis, green Shallie, Escha, Rorona, Lydie are the cutest.Havent played Ayesha yet but she looks more serious.

12 months ago

Joseph Morales

I hope that guy who hasn't played the series doesn't read this. If you spoil things for him it'll be very sad.Annie is neither. She's a gold digger. She'd probably refuse to have sex even if she was married unless she got something out of it.

12 months ago

Evan Miller

i m getting fatlooks like you re not.im getting fat in places you shouldn t see

So I always hear about Mana Khemia, what are those like? Why are they recommended over the main titles?

12 months ago

Elijah Phillips

a series of games about songs using a fictional, functional language created by the devs that would make even Tolkien himself proudhe doesnt like the songs which the games are aboutO-okay.

12 months ago

Michael Murphy

They're a lot less unique than most other Ateliers. No need to plan anyway, and really simplified alchemy. The combat system is nice but it doesn't matter since 99% of the combat is just against trash mobs that you can beat by just hammering attack, like in most JRPGs. Not really sure what people see in MK.

12 months ago

Matthew Howard

Kickass music and combat. Basically, they're for people who wanted more out of the combat than the alchemy aspect. EschatoLogy copied this combat system, so if you like it, you should try that one one. That said, I kinda prefer Mana Khemia's because in E&L, it felt a lot slower, which the whole appeal of Mana Khemia's was that the pace was super fast.

12 months ago

Jason Fisher

Doesn't Firis's sister go full yuri when she finds out they aren't blood related?

I like it primarily because the hits feel very weighty and impactful. New ateliers didnt bother improving the sound design and instead focused on making more flashy effects. While nice, it doesnt make combat satisfying at all.

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