To go forward Dany had to go back, she went back to the Dorhtraki, where it really all started, instead of a tribe she is now in control of the Horde itself, the Un Burnt is part of her mystique, deciding to dump the oil lamps and step above the small men thinking the Khals had was just what was needed. They are all about dominating and she did.

Now she will head towards Maureen with 100,000 warriors plus the women and children to add to her unsullied and Second Sons army. Oh and lets not forget we now have three Dragons flying around.

chris98251 wrote:To go forward Dany had to go back, she went back to the Dorhtraki, where it really all started, instead of a tribe she is now in control of the Horde itself, the Un Burnt is part of her mystique, deciding to dump the oil lamps and step above the small men thinking the Khals had was just what was needed. They are all about dominating and she did.

Now she will head towards Maureen with 100,000 warriors plus the women and children to add to her unsullied and Second Sons army. Oh and lets not forget we now have three Dragons flying around.

God they dont use the Dragons enough in this show.

The mother of Dragons is a horrible mother who never knows what mischief her kids are getting into. We need a Westeros CPA to step in and take these neglected Dragons away from her.

chris98251 wrote:To go forward Dany had to go back, she went back to the Dorhtraki, where it really all started, instead of a tribe she is now in control of the Horde itself, the Un Burnt is part of her mystique, deciding to dump the oil lamps and step above the small men thinking the Khals had was just what was needed. They are all about dominating and she did.

Now she will head towards Maureen with 100,000 warriors plus the women and children to add to her unsullied and Second Sons army. Oh and lets not forget we now have three Dragons flying around.

yeah. I re-watched it twice.

My gut reaction is still so mad. I didn't want the "guy" to come in and help her. I wanted her to own her freedom alone.

I'm still annoyed, but I can appreciate the facts of the story and what she did.

She is the one I want to own it all in the end.

and off topic, her body double is like a happy daily smile on my Insta.

RedAlice wrote:I'm conflicted. I've been the biggest Dany supporter and she wins it all, etc.

But, man. This episode killed it for me. You really do not spout off, turn over a side table w a flame and show your tits and now have power. This is beyond BS.

Dany was and has been a massive woman of power. This episode just took all her power away and made her "good for TV."

It's not real. It's not even close to believable, and it's pretty much now unwatchable.

Seems important that there was no Arya in this episode. Marjorie came out strong. I think the only thing that can save the entire thing is if Arya viciously flays Sansa in front of Ramsey before then flaying him.

I was gonna buy the books, but I think I'm done with the whole thing now.

You are one confusing fan. You LIKE when Dany does nothing but sit around waxing poetic about which boy toy she likes better for seasons on end...........but then when she puts the hammer down and takes control of the entire game by doing something bad ass, you're out?

I did not express myself correctly. I adore Dany.

I've never seen Dany for one second as "sitting around." re-watch the first eps. She USED every thing in her power to gain control and BE in control. Including sex.

She manipulated both her brother and her husband, while seeming to be passive. Pay attention.

In this case, I over reacted as I am unhappy she needed a man to get her out of this situation. I love what she did. Just wish it was without J.

I re-watched, so though I do not agree, I will keep watching. I do want to see her own it all.

and, hey - being conflicted while reading a great novel or in this case a TV show is what real readers are supposed to feel. What, you went through the entire Brothers Karamazov with no personal conflicts?

RedAlice wrote:I'm conflicted. I've been the biggest Dany supporter and she wins it all, etc.

But, man. This episode killed it for me. You really do not spout off, turn over a side table w a flame and show your tits and now have power. This is beyond BS.

Dany was and has been a massive woman of power. This episode just took all her power away and made her "good for TV."

It's not real. It's not even close to believable, and it's pretty much now unwatchable.

Seems important that there was no Arya in this episode. Marjorie came out strong. I think the only thing that can save the entire thing is if Arya viciously flays Sansa in front of Ramsey before then flaying him.

I was gonna buy the books, but I think I'm done with the whole thing now.

RedAlice wrote:I'm conflicted. I've been the biggest Dany supporter and she wins it all, etc.

But, man. This episode killed it for me. You really do not spout off, turn over a side table w a flame and show your tits and now have power. This is beyond BS.

Dany was and has been a massive woman of power. This episode just took all her power away and made her "good for TV."

It's not real. It's not even close to believable, and it's pretty much now unwatchable.

Seems important that there was no Arya in this episode. Marjorie came out strong. I think the only thing that can save the entire thing is if Arya viciously flays Sansa in front of Ramsey before then flaying him.

I was gonna buy the books, but I think I'm done with the whole thing now.

You are one confusing fan. You LIKE when Dany does nothing but sit around waxing poetic about which boy toy she likes better for seasons on end...........but then when she puts the hammer down and takes control of the entire game by doing something bad ass, you're out?

I did not express myself correctly. I adore Dany.

I've never seen Dany for one second as "sitting around." re-watch the first eps. She USED every thing in her power to gain control and BE in control. Including sex.

She manipulated both her brother and her husband, while seeming to be passive. Pay attention.

In this case, I over reacted as I am unhappy she needed a man to get her out of this situation. I love what she did. Just wish it was without J.

I re-watched, so though I do not agree, I will keep watching. I do want to see her own it all.

and, hey - being conflicted while reading a great novel or in this case a TV show is what real readers are supposed to feel. What, you went through the entire Brothers Karamazov with no personal conflicts?

Because in the first episodes she was passive. She wasn't ACTING passive, while secretly plotting. She was a weak, young, controlled girl. By her brother and later by her forced husband. It wasn't until she learned how to sex him up from that other women that she really took charge.

But to try to claim she was secretly plotting and pretending to be passive all along is extremely wrong.

RedAlice wrote:I've never seen Dany for one second as "sitting around." re-watch the first eps. She USED every thing in her power to gain control and BE in control. Including sex.

Then you skipped the last two seasons, all she did was sit in a windowless room on a throne pontificating about boyfriends, her dragons, fighting pits and why don't the people of Mereen don't love her.

fenderbender123 wrote:I just wanted to say that Lord Baelish is the shit. Every scene he's in is just awesome. Great actor.

Darth Sansa has his ass this week. She looked pissed.

I hope not. I kinda want the series to end with him regaining the throne lol

Shocking.

Not sure what you mean...

Because I tend to go against the grain so often? I suppose I do. He's obviously a "bad" guy in the series, but when you think about it, almost every main character in that series has done terrible things. There almost are no good guys.

RedAlice wrote:I've never seen Dany for one second as "sitting around." re-watch the first eps. She USED every thing in her power to gain control and BE in control. Including sex.

Then you skipped the last two seasons, all she did was sit in a windowless room on a throne pontificating about boyfriends, her dragons, fighting pits and why don't the people of Mereen don't love her.

For...........................two..........................seasons.

Fair enough. You know more than I do.

I binged all the previous seasons really fast in one weekend awhile ago. So, I missed many of the finer points.

Might take it slower this summer, and I did buy the first book. I really enjoyed re-watching the first few eps of season one.

Yes, for the breasts out of the fire scene this episode. That is the actual actress, which is obvious if you've seen pics of both. I believe it was also her own body in the first naked scene season one.

Everyone get the same Bill Simmons commercial first, or is that only on HBO Go?

Well, either way - yes, billionaires should pay for their own * Stadiums. Ha. (star to represent I can't say what he said).

Though I'm still not her fan, did like Sansa having a brain. It's nice to see her develop, and I"m sure this is going to continue as she eventually teams up w Dany.

Pure dramatic pleasure in the Theon scene. The drowning was perfect. Considering the extreme use of random nudity in the first seasons, and the lack of it now - the verbal back and forth of the "size" and/or "lack of" male genitalia was entertaining.

Where are my niece and nephew: let's kill them. I'm newly engaged and considering I couldn't even figure out who he was a couple episodes ago, well done.

I have to let the Dany story be what it will be. Liked the emotion they were trying to show.

As far as Darth Sansa having his ass, I did not mean kill him, he is going to be sucking up to her big time, I think Sansa's first hand of her own kill may be Ramsey.

This show is all about shock and awe. What if Ramsay ends up on the throne.

I wouldn't put it past Martin to do this, he's a sick bastard.

But if he does, he better sell his house, change his name and go into witness protection............cause millions of fans are going to get their torches and pitchforks and hunt him down.

Martin is not in control of the TV Series.

The showrunners have said that while they're doing their own thing, they are still consulting with Martin on the direction of certain character arcs and story lines.

As far as last night's episode, probably the first time in the series that I got choked up. Hodor was arguably the first purely innocent primary/secondary character that got killed off...........and a beloved character at that.

Hard to watch, but moving and fo seriously intriguing because now we know Bran's warg abilities are messing with the space time continuum, past, present and possibly the future.

I think that final scene is going to be ruined for me. I fell asleep watching the last episode last night and woke up to the "hold the door!" repeated screaming. It was very irritating while I was trying to fall back asleep.

"Why does he keep screaming the same line? Are they purposely trying to irritate the viewers?" I kept wondering to myself. I'll probably just skip that scene when I watch it again.

He will be an Other, the Walkers are the Blue guys created by the Night King, Hodor or Wylie now since he doesn't have to hold the door anymore with be a zombie more or less. Poor guy spent his whole life knowing when he was going to die and how. Nice Job Bran, I hope for a bigger reason that when he was holding the door that Bran had broke his connection in the present and was just in the past and it was Wylis holding the door at the end and not Hodor. The only guy in the show with no agenda and or malicious intent, would have died a real Hero at least.

Sgt. Largent wrote:The showrunners have said that while they're doing their own thing, they are still consulting with Martin on the direction of certain character arcs and story lines.

I'm pretty much diggin' the arms race this season. Anyone who didn't have an army now has one, those who already had one are getting bigger ones, those who don't do the army thing are doing the armada thing. Should be an interesting second half of the season.

Tech Worlds wrote:Oh and the little girl that was burned alive last year was more innocent than Hodor.

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Shireen? Yes, another tragic death. But she wasn't even close to Hodor IMO for prmiary character + innocence......especially now that we know Bran was the reason Hodor became Hodor, makes his death even more tragic.

Tech Worlds wrote:Oh and the little girl that was burned alive last year was more innocent than Hodor.

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Shireen? Yes, another tragic death. But she wasn't even close to Hodor IMO for prmiary character + innocence......especially now that we know Bran was the reason Hodor became Hodor, makes his death even more tragic.

Tech Worlds wrote:Oh and the little girl that was burned alive last year was more innocent than Hodor.

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Shireen? Yes, another tragic death. But she wasn't even close to Hodor IMO for prmiary character + innocence......especially now that we know Bran was the reason Hodor became Hodor, makes his death even more tragic.

I disagree but it's just opinion so 6 to one, half dozen to another.

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Fair enough, but the fact that you didn't even know Shireen's name might mean I'm right. Hodor was top 2-3 most beloved characters on the entire show behind maybe Jon and Tyrion.