“In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllablewhat then?”

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posted on 11/09/2012 7:01:24 PM PST
by dynachrome
("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")

The problem with the 1986 "reform" was simply that IT WAS NOT ENFORCED! The borders were not enforced.. the law was ignored by government and business.

We had miles of threads about this. The "reform" granted legal status to far more than was declared during the debate and as the years passed millions more poured through the border with the full knowledge and approval of government and business. They were all here illegally with the full knowledge and welcome of government and business.

The SSA has file called the Earnings Suspense File (ESF) which documents every SSN earning that did not match the SS master file. Nothing is deleted from the ESF unless the earnings are transferred to a valid SSN in the SS master files. Records in the ESF go back to 1937.

It shows that following the 1986 amnesty and "reform" there was a decrease in volume of records in the file.

Well, the SSA does not delete earnings statements from the ESF unless it can transfer the earnings to a valid SSN. Amnesty -- by any name -- creates valid SSNs and the SSA will transfer past earnings data submitted with bogus SSNs to valid SSNs. It helps SS for the ILLEGALS to have their old W-2s showing the bogus SSNs they used.

To the best of my knowledge it was a 2004 law that finally required SS benefits be earned with authorized work from 2004 on. ILLEGAL aliens can get SS benefits based upon all bogus SSNs prior to 2004 once they become legal "guest workers," or through their own efforts they become legal and acquire a valid SSN -- or get amnesty.

Immigration "reform" will likely delete the 2004 requirement -- if it was ever enforced anyway.

From a link about Hannity.. "[In the past] Hannity played host to right-wing members of Congress and others who insisted that even illegal immigrants who served in the U.S. military should not be granted legal residence and a chance at citizenship."

When I was in the Army in the 1950s you had to be a legal resident to join. I hear people speak of illegal immigrants who served in the U.S. military . . . .

To serve was a proud and honorable way for LEGAL immigrants to gain citizenship.

Are ILLEGALs now permitted to join? I know that they are required to register with the Selective Service System with no risk of being exposed as illegal.

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posted on 11/09/2012 7:49:08 PM PST
by WilliamofCarmichael
(If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)

Barry is ignoring the Law on Selective Service.
Rules are: 18-26, Illegal Immigrant or Citizen/Resident MUST sign up. If NOT, may affect citizenship, Denial of Federal Jobs/Benefits/Loans. If you are here and older than that age group, BUT came here during that age group and didn’t sign up, the above also applies to you. If you are here and illegal less than a year, until you hit the year in the States, you don’t have to sign up.

Those on a student Visa are exempt as well as those Legal Residents whom we have a treating with their home Country that forbids service in the Military.

Those that are Illegal have had the opportunity to enlist and become Legal. They choose not to obey. Freebies are what they want.

I check the compliance stats. No compliance for Illegals (% wise). I believe that last stat I read on American Males (citizens complying with the SS Law was around 95%)

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posted on 11/09/2012 8:02:34 PM PST
by machogirl
(First they came for my tagline, it's back. 2008, the Decline of America)

Probably because Savage left TRN and is now part of the Cumulus network of stations which probably don't broadcast in Pittsburg (just guessing), anyway Jerry Doyle was his replacement on the TRN schedule (what a bore)

Thank you for that information.. based upon that and the information we had on those "miles FR immigration threads" over the years the proof is clear.

That only one aspect of "comprehensive immigration reform" will be enforced.. amnesty. ILLEGALs will still pour in by the tens of millions -- and be welcomed and covered for until the next "comprehensive immigration reform" when they will be given amnesty. Repeat.

I am fond of posting a quote by Lincoln (slightly updated):

. . . You now have two Americas. In my opinion, it will not cease until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. "A house divided against itself cannot stand." [it won't fall but it has to] become all one thing, or all the other.

We are nearing that crisis and IMO our military has to choose sides.

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posted on 11/09/2012 8:13:24 PM PST
by WilliamofCarmichael
(If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)

I don’t have cable and I quit listening to his radio show about a year ago. (those screeching libs he has to have on to “balance”, shoot does MSM care about “balance”?) Sometimes I turn in on, and after a little bit, her comes Juan Williams and I shut it off. I don’t need the stress. Listen to Levin and Savage.

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posted on 11/09/2012 8:21:43 PM PST
by machogirl
(First they came for my tagline, it's back. 2008, the Decline of America)

Equal Protection Clause. I heard someone, on the airways say that for that you had to have “standing”. Get prosecuted first, then sue. (the DOJ, ACLU, Mexican Consulate and other various Countries that encourage their citizens to violate our sovereignty will file Friend of the Court briefs and a lib judge will throw it out).

Just to irritate them and to have it on the Public Record, if I had the extra money, I file a suit against them for a number of things. (i’m not a criminal just to make that clear).

I’ve always said DMX (dog abuser and convicted of fraud to giving a fake name at the hospital) could sue for the violation of his rights on the fake name enforcement (Federal suit, not against AZ). Here in AZ, Illegal Immigrants greatly impact the ER’s and can give a fake name/id and they don’t go after them.

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posted on 11/09/2012 8:43:01 PM PST
by machogirl
(First they came for my tagline, it's back. 2008, the Decline of America)

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