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The vast majority of people on the planet who know anything at all about the experience of European Jews during WW2 will only have read the Holocaust true-believer books. That or they have watched the Jewish made and funded Hollywood films and TV documentaries.

People have therefore only been getting one half of the story. And that has been the situation for most people for the last seven decades.

And a very skewed, distorted and deliberately misleading story it has been. Plus, if anything, it is getting worse. Now even newspaper journalists and TV documentary script writers write quite amazing nonsense.

Even a prominent politician on the world stage like Benjamin Netanyahu could make quite preposterous ahistorical claims on the podium at the UN, and yet the world leaders and the world press dared not expose his nonsense for what it was.

Dissenters such as the conscientious, courageous, logical and ethically principled Paul Rassanier and Ernst Zündel did important work but their reach was limited.

The stupid, own-goal of ignorant and emotionally-traumatised 2nd-generation H-believers who took Zündel to trial in the 1980's to make an example of him, has had far-reaching effects. Consequently more people learnt that the Jews who called themselves 'holocaust survivors' and 'holocaust experts' were not always telling the truth.

But even here, what is news one day is soon forgotten the next and the Jewish organisations worldwide could still control the content of shared information in the media and academia.

Well the internet changed all that.
It changed things so that those who control the publishing firms and mass-media could no longer control what gets shared widely. And that is why new thought-crime laws are being introduced by Jewish groups worldwide to try and prevent the flow of information that they want to be denied and which is for them unwelcome.

And that is why Jewish owned companies are increasingly censoring internet social media, e.g. Youtube, Facebook, Quora, Wikipedia, etc. The 'holocaust' narrative DOES NOT and CAN NOT withstand close scrutiny and critical enquiry. So it must be protected with thought crime laws to keep the masses in ignorance.

Some years ago, I came across a totally obscure 1951 book entitled The iron curtain over America by John Beaty, a well-regarded university professor.
Beaty had spent his wartime years in Military Intelligence, being tasked with preparing the daily briefing reports distributed to all top American officials summarising available intelligence information acquired during the previous 24 hours, which was obviously a position of considerable responsibility.

As a zealous anti-Communist, he regarded much of America’s Jewish population as deeply implicated in subversive activity, therefore constituting a serious threat to traditional American freedoms.In particular, the growing Jewish stranglehold over publishing and the media was making it increasingly difficult for discordant views to reach the American people, with this regime of censorship constituting the “Iron Curtain” described in his title.He blamed Jewish interests for the totally unnecessary war with Hitler’s Germany, which had long sought good relations with America, but instead had suffered total destruction for its strong opposition to Europe’s Jewish-backed Communist menace.

Beaty also sharply denounced American support for the new state of Israel, which was potentially costing us the goodwill of so many millions of Muslims and Arabs. And as a very minor aside, he also criticized the Israelis for continuing to claim that Hitler had killed six million Jews, a highly implausible accusation that had no apparent basis in reality and seemed to be just a fraud concocted by Jews and Communists, aimed at poisoning our relations with postwar Germany and extracting money for the Jewish State from the long-suffering German people.

He was scathing toward the Nuremberg Trials, which he described as a “major indelible blot” upon America and “a travesty of justice.” According to him, the proceedings were dominated by vengeful German Jews, many of whom engaged in falsification of testimony or even had criminal backgrounds. As a result, this “foul fiasco” merely taught Germans that “our government had no sense of justice.” Sen. Robert Taft, the Republican leader of the immediate postwar era took a very similar position, which later won him the praise of John F. Kennedy in Profiles in Courage. The fact that the chief Soviet prosecutor at Nuremberg had played the same role during the notorious Stalinist show trials of the late 1930s, during which numerous Old Bolsheviks confessed to all sorts of absurd and ridiculous things, hardly enhanced the credibility of the proceedings to many outside observers.

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If they have a $1.1 million dollar budget spent on recruiting trolls for trolling news sites, they presumably have something smaller but similar for recruiting morons to moronise Historical Revision sites.

Israel’s million dollar troll army

12 June 2019

A global influence campaign funded by the Israeli government had a $1.1 million budget last year, a document obtained shows.

Act.IL says it has offices in three countries and an online army of more than 15,000.
In its annual report, from January, Act.IL says its goal is to “influence foreign publics”...
Through its app, Act.IL issues “missions” to this troll army in exchange for “cool prizes” and scholarships.
The app directs comments towards news websites in support of Israeli wars and racism...

The leaked report claims Act.IL’s app completes 1,580 such missions every week.
The app is monitored and screenshots of its missions are posted to the Twitter account Behind Israel’s Troll Army.

Israel secretly operates a troll army of thousands, partly funded by a government department.
To conceal its involvement, the ministry has admitted to working through front groups that “do not want to expose their connection with the state.”

The troll army Act.IL is one of many such groups. It focuses on spreading Israeli propaganda online.
Act.IL is run by a former Israeli spy who has argued that his outfit is involved in “a new kind of war.”

While Act.IL publicly denies being supported by the Israeli government, the group’s chief executive has admitted in Hebrew to working closely with Israeli ministries, and in English that his staff are mostly former Israeli spies.

His name is Yarden Ben Yosef. Last year, he explained his group’s methods in an article for a journal aimed at Israeli diplomats. He lamented that – in Gaza that May – “the Palestinian narrative prevailed in world media over the Israeli one.”
Ben Yosef advocated for “inserting ourselves” into online discussions, because readers nowadays see the comments section under articles published by websites as part of the story.

Using sophisticated “monitoring software,” he wrote, Act.IL closely watched news and social media the week before the opening of the new US embassy in Jerusalem – one of the triggers for the Palestinian protests.
Ben Yosef explained that “controlling the online media discussion became our top priority.”
He claimed victory in these efforts, successfully “bumping the pro-Israeli comments to the top of the list in 85% of the cases.”

He wrote that this strategy allows Israel to circumvent its “limited ability to influence world public opinion during crises” due to the “official identity” of government agencies.
Supposedly “grassroots” groups like Act.IL work as convenient fronts for Israel to do just that.
In a Hebrew-only interview with Forbes Israel last year, Ben Yosef made Act.IL’s ongoing operational links with the state even more explicit.

“We work with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and with the Ministry of Strategic Affairs,” he admitted. Ben Yosef added that Act.IL seeks the advice of these ministries and undertakes “joint projects” with them.

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If they have a $1.1 million dollar budget spent on recruiting trolls for trolling news sites, they presumably have something smaller but similar for recruiting morons to moronise Historical Revision sites.

But the sad thing here is that these 'morons' are exposing the 'wise and respected' Been There's 'arguments' as worthless and flawed , and he has no response. They are exposing him as fraud and an irrational dunce .How tragically embarrassing is that for the forums very own King of the Cranks ?? :

How do you get to be an ambassador for your nation
when you have been convicted of perjury
(lying under oath in a court)
and fraud?
What sort of nation would want fraudsters and liars representing them internationally?

President Jair Bolsonaro [left] with Jewish State of Israel's Ambassador and blacked-out lobster.

The Israeli ambassador to Brazil caused a stir on Sunday when he posted a picture taken at a dinner with Brazilian president, which had plates with what appear to be lobsters sloppily blurred with black colouring.
Yossi Sheli who was dining with President Jair Bolsonaro appears to have wanted to omit the fact that he was eating the marine crustaceans, considered non-kosher since the Torah prohibits eating all shellfish.

Sheli is a former businessman who was previously barred from public office for three years after admitting that he had not declared his political affiliation despite being a Likud member at a time when he acted as chairman of the Israel Postal Company’s board of directors and director general of the Be'er Sheva Municipality.

He came under the scrutiny of Jerusalem’s local attorney’s office in 2008, which issued an indictment alleging that he had presented false affidavits to the Public Services Authority. He was found guilty in June of perjury and fraud.

Israel secretly operates a troll army of thousands, partly funded by a government department.
To conceal its involvement, the ministry has admitted to working through front groups that “do not want to expose their connection with the state.”

The troll army Act.IL is one of many such groups. It focuses on spreading Israeli propaganda online.
Act.IL is run by a former Israeli spy who has argued that his outfit is involved in “a new kind of war.”

While Act.IL publicly denies being supported by the Israeli government, the group’s chief executive has admitted in Hebrew to working closely with Israeli ministries, and in English that his staff are mostly former Israeli spies.

His name is Yarden Ben Yosef. Last year, he explained his group’s methods in an article for a journal aimed at Israeli diplomats. He lamented that – in Gaza that May – “the Palestinian narrative prevailed in world media over the Israeli one.”
Ben Yosef advocated for “inserting ourselves” into online discussions, because readers nowadays see the comments section under articles published by websites as part of the story.

Using sophisticated “monitoring software,” he wrote, Act.IL closely watched news and social media the week before the opening of the new US embassy in Jerusalem – one of the triggers for the Palestinian protests.
Ben Yosef explained that “controlling the online media discussion became our top priority.”
He claimed victory in these efforts, successfully “bumping the pro-Israeli comments to the top of the list in 85% of the cases.”

He wrote that this strategy allows Israel to circumvent its “limited ability to influence world public opinion during crises” due to the “official identity” of government agencies.
Supposedly “grassroots” groups like Act.IL work as convenient fronts for Israel to do just that.
In a Hebrew-only interview with Forbes Israel last year, Ben Yosef made Act.IL’s ongoing operational links with the state even more explicit.

“We work with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and with the Ministry of Strategic Affairs,” he admitted. Ben Yosef added that Act.IL seeks the advice of these ministries and undertakes “joint projects” with them.