Alright, let's work backwards on this. Ferncloud had three litters; Spiderleg and Shrewpaw, Birchfall and Hollykit and Larchkit, then, finally, Foxleap and Rosepetal. Two of them reproduced. Spiderleg fathered Rosepetal and Toadstep, while Birchfall mated with Whitewing, who gave birth to Ivypool and Dovewing.And who did Su reveal as the father of Ferncloud, again?- Whitestorm- Runningwind

Whitestorm fathered Brindleface's kits

Yeah, it was Whitestorm that Su said fathered Ashfur and Ferncloud! I made a mistake in this when I thought Runningwind was the father. What was the said mistake?- My life choices- Runningwind only has two pairs of ancestors- Only one cat in his nuclear family is gray

Runningwind has only four ancestors which are pure-blooded

Runningwind only has his parents as his ancestors; Halftail and One-eye. One-eye had parents, Stagleap and Harepounce. They never had any kin stated, so I think it's safe to say Stagleap and Harepounce were full ThunderClan. Halftail has no ancestors mentioned at all. This makes Runningwind pure-blood.But why is this important, again?- Every cat gets into forbidden relationships- Runningwind actually isn't pure-blooded- Whitestorm's grandfather is Windflight, a half-WindClan cat

*loud zooming noises**insert red words slamming onto now-white background*FERNCLOUD IS NOT A PURE-BLOODED CAT*insert words becoming black then being put into a full sentence*FERNCLOUD IS NOT A PURE-BLOODED CAT

That was...really fun to write. Anyways, let's get into the meat of this. Since we knew Willowpelt mated with Whitestorm before Missing Kits, here is what I'd originally calculate WindClan blood as, excluding Lionblaze and Jayfeather.

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Windflight is half WindClan. Thistleclaw is then a quarter WindClan.Whitestorm is an eighth WindClan.That makes Sorreltail and her brothers a sixteenth WindClan.Cinderheart, Poppyfrost and Lilyheart 1/32nd WindClan.Cinderheart's kits are 3 quarters or something WindClan. This is because of their grandfather Crowfeather along with Windflight. Because it's late where I am, I'm multitasking to get a shiny Stunky/Nidoran/Starly and math hurts my brain, I'm not explaining the Firestar part.Poppyfrost mated with Berrynose. This makes Cherry and Mole 1/64th WindClan. They are also half kittypet.Lilyheart's father-in-law, Cloudtail, is kittypet. That means Honey, Leaf and Lark are again 1/64th WindClan and quarter kittypet.*Big breath*That was a lot of math.

NOW we know Ferncloud is half-WindClan. HOW many cats does that mean is half-WindClan?Let's see...all her kits, Dovewing, Ivypool, Toadstep, Rosepetal...That's 11 cats. So....that poses a question. How many ThunderClanners are NOT half-Clan?3.A measly three.That is; LionXFrost's remaining kits.Everyone else is either; loner, kittypet, related to Adderfang or WindClan. And if what Vicky thought that Mapleshade might be a distant relative of Bluestar's family, RiverClan joins the fray! *messes up tabs while typing**panics and clicks on Oakfur's page**sees quote*Well, this wouldn't've been in the article if Neon didn't suck at keeping her mouse still. But I found this quote:"A blind kit saved by a one-eyed warrior. ThunderClan isn't what it used to be. Filled with kittypets and cripples and worn-out deputies."It was just mainly Oakfur being a jerk and provoking Brambleclaw, but I guess on some degree, he's technically correct -- the best kind of correct!What I probably learned from writing this is that ThunderClan has WAAAY too many non-clanners, and writing revisualisations are really fun.What did you take away from this article? Do you think ThunderClan has too many half-clanners, quarter-clanners or sixtyfourth-clanners?

I think cross clan cats are inevitable no matter what, and that basically all the clans have at least some clan mixing. Honestly given that so many cats in the clans are fairly closely related the clan crossing thing is probably for the best even if the cats don't always think so.

I think cross clan cats are inevitable no matter what, and that basically all the clans have at least some clan mixing. Honestly given that so many cats in the clans are fairly closely related the clan crossing thing is probably for the best even if the cats don't always think so.

Yeah, this.

I mean sure, it annoys the fandom, but there really isn't anything that can be done about it, not unless you go and rewrite the entire series.

I think cross clan cats are inevitable no matter what, and that basically all the clans have at least some clan mixing. Honestly given that so many cats in the clans are fairly closely related the clan crossing thing is probably for the best even if the cats don't always think so.

Yeah, this.

I mean sure, it annoys the fandom, but there really isn't anything that can be done about it, not unless you go and rewrite the entire series.

I do surrender, I'm being a bit too demanding. I did give up on genetics late in the New Prophecy. (the primary reason I didn't catch onto the Po3 plot twist) Maybe half-Clan relationships are for the good of the series, but I don't think so from a non-genetical point of view. The Erins obviously didn't care about genetics. I'm not meaning to bash them or attack you guys for looking at it from a genetic standpoint, but you still need to accept that the Erins don't worry terribly that much about genes.

still surprised no-one's said a word about the "neon made a mistake in her life choices when she thought runningwind was the father", I thought someone would have actually seen that and laughed

I don't actually care about genetics or anything of the sort. It is what it is, and with a series this large and so many characters, something's bound to get skewed sooner or later. It's not anything that can be taken back now, so it is what it is.

I don't actually care about genetics or anything of the sort. It is what it is, and with a series this large and so many characters, something's bound to get skewed sooner or later. It's not anything that can be taken back now, so it is what it is.

That's pretty much how I feel

Also yeah the Erins don't seem to care about genetics, nor do I think the characters would care ~that much~ like they probably don't know stuff about that

Anyhow I guess storywise, "forbidden relationships" has been done to death so yeah I can see that side of it.

I don't actually care about genetics or anything of the sort. It is what it is, and with a series this large and so many characters, something's bound to get skewed sooner or later. It's not anything that can be taken back now, so it is what it is.

That's pretty much how I feel

Also yeah the Erins don't seem to care about genetics, nor do I think the characters would care ~that much~ like they probably don't know stuff about that

Anyhow I guess storywise, "forbidden relationships" has been done to death so yeah I can see that side of it.

also tbh I didn't notice the runningwind bit omg

It's a reference to the Magical Turnabout, actually!

When you perceive Bonny de Famme, you find out she made the mistake of making ventriloquy puppet Mr. Hat go to the right when he was supposed to be on the other side of the coffin where Trucy was to do a teleportation trick. If it wasn't for her quick thinking, Trucy would've poofed up at the other side and ruined the show. It's in a multiple choice question where Bonny confesses she made a mistake but doesn't disclose what exactly she goofed, and you can also choose she messed up switching the swords and her life choices.

When you do revisualisation in the trial, Apollo realises that if the prank script that they planned to do happened, the murder would be done without fail and so no evidence could be left behind. But when you notice that Bonny's mistake wasn't in the script, you have to say what was the exact mistake, between "Mr. Hat's positioning" (the correct answer) "Stage Lift Preparation" and "Her life choices". For some reason SoJ is really biased towards Bonny. I liked her, dammit!

Yeah, the interClan relationships are done to death. I would like them if they were done differently, but no, there's utterly no difference in each and every relationship. A few examples are Yellowfang's Secret, the second half of the New Prophecy and Forest of Secrets.

I've never had any problem with mixed ancestry, and honestly don't understand why anyone would. There's no such things as 'pure' any clan, because the clans aren't some eternal thing, they were just started one day. Do we count descendants of Blue Whisker (Moth Flight's ThunderClan daughter) to be not 'pure' TC? Even though Blue Whisker was one of the earliest ThunderClan cats? What about Thunderstar himself? He doesn't have TC blood because there was no ThunderClan when he was born. It's all just splitting hairs. I doubt there are any cats alive who can only count original members of their Clans as ancestors.