I'm very concerned about the way things are now. The banks are in a worse state than they were, unemployment and money printing seems to be every were. so I'm starting to think of worst case scenario and this has changed my view of self defence as well, I used to train with sticks now I'm moving up to Bowie and Tomahawk, getting more into my compound bow, maybe get into black powder revolvers, stashing food and saving in precious metals.Anybody else doing the same?

We keep a month's supply of food and drinking water on hand, and maintain guns and ammo, and bows, practicing regularly. If society can't resume normal operation within a month, you're not going to be able to sit tight anyway. You might consider stocking some bartering items, like salt or flour. If the economy causes a complete breakdown, it's going to get positively medieval.

I am begining to think something like that might happen, but I don't know in what time frame. All the quantative easing is just kicking the can down the roadthe question is how long will that be allowed to continue? The debt in the US and the UK is totally unsustainable I remember the images of what happened when you had Catrina, there were loads of people crying because they hadn't got their welfare cheques, what will they be like when they realise that the government can't afford to give them anymore money?

I go to Costco and buy rice,lentils and beans for long term storage also I want to start growing vegetables again. I learnt an interesting fact. If you don't wash an egg when it comes out the hen, then it is covered by a thin film or coating which will allow it to stay fresh for up to a year,that's what I've been told anyway.so I'm looking to keep hens

That Saiga is quite the weapon. Rotary magazine, right? How many rounds?

Do they also make a fully auto Saiga, Jason?

20 rounds.

I'm sure they do, but the process you'd have to go through to get one is pretty daunting, just like any other automatic.

Picking up a muzzle brake today. A friend who works at a local gun store keeps me on their shortlist for any accessories that come in.

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As to the Ar-15/M1 Garand...true...disappeared off the shelves.

I can understand people's fear of those weapons, but why is it that law abiding citizens scoop them up... And all the ammo that goes with them?

Within a week of the shootings in CT, they were gone. Poof. .223 up here is limited to two boxes per customer, and it's the expensive stuff. The cheaper rounds are reserved on back order. 5.56? We can't get it up here. Canada won't allow it through.

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This could be one reason...

Talk about things going primal...not in the ole US of A...right?

It's happened before, and it'll happen again. Just wait till What's his name in Florida is acquitted for the shooting of Thug Jr.

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It's not the people who have food stamps or claim benefits you have to worry about, it's the punk bankers who srew everyone, then get bailed out and for much more than a social security check

When the gravy train stops, where do you think those people will be? The bankers? They'll be well-protected and able to leave any danger behind. No, it is very much those on food stamps, and anyone else not supplied (IOW, almost everyone) who may well be coming to your door ready to take what they can. The bankers? Not worried about them.

Just making the point Jason, that we know who to blame for this mess and if everything goes belly up I hope people remember that. The federal Reserve ( which is as Federal as Federal Express.and has no reserves) is responsible for a lot of this

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