Sigh... I think I need a break from this hobby. Too complicated, too many rules, too much effort and then you get another rule, takes the fun out of things and this is supposed to be something I do for fun.

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It is weird. Like you'd think it would be too pricey to etch a number into a basic pin, but I guess if one can get a scrapper for $1 and then pay a couple dollars for etching, that it would still be cheaper than the $10/pin that we are paying to trade.

In an effort to prevent counterfeit pins from being traded we would ask that you purchase your lanyard trading pins at the event directly. Pins purchased at the event will have an enhanced security measure indicating that they are genuine. Pins without this measure will not be eligible to trade at PinCon World. Please do not purchase lanyard traders for the event online.

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@Pinopolis Ambassador - does this exclude pins people purchased from the site during the sale in May, that I think I remember were specifically advertised as being able to be traded on the lanyards? I didn't purchase any but I would guess at least a few people did.

Also, just so I understand fully - are we allowed to trade one pin and keep our second tab for trading later in the day if the pins "sell out" and flip? Or do we have to use both tabs at the same time?

I understood the tabs to mean 1 tab = 2 lanyard trades like they do in the parks

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I read it that it is 1 tab (ticket) per pin and you can trade two pins at a time and would need to hand in two tickets with your two pins. I read it that way since it says you get tickets equal to the number of pins you purchase, and that you have to turn in your tickets (plural) with your pins on each trade. But I also read it as only being able to trade once per lanyard, so can't split up the trade and come back later for another one when the lanyards flip.

Although, all of that said, I do find it odd that you get double the tickets if you buy the double bag. Not sure how they are going to do that and still ensure that each person can only do one trade per lanyard.

I hope not. I think that would be a bummer for folks at latter events. Two per person always strikes me as reasonable for rarer items.

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Not really a bummer for latter events, because they need to make it flip to get to the conceals. My guess is Las Vegas gets the reveals.... Orlando gets the conceals.

If you think about it, there are 200 each of 35 pins; that's 7000 pins to get through in 14 hours (11 am to 8 pm on the first day; 11 noon to 4 pm on the second day.) Right now, we know of 80 attendees....30 who purchased tables and 50 who purchased early entry. If even half of those who purchased tables are from Southern California, it is unlikely they would be at the second day of pin trading due to the drive back home [my group is leaving at 7 or 8 am]....we have a long commute home on the Sunday of a holiday weekend....yeah, not looking forward to that. So you have less people

BTW, I priced out plane tickets via SWA and those were pricey....like $800 for two people flying out of ONT. Again, I think it's because of this holiday weekend.

If one wanted to get through all these revealed pins in order to get to the concealed pins, conceivably you would need 700 people there on both days to get to it. That is an unlikely event.

Plus, these lanyard pins are supposed to be available to all Pin Masters after the event and there are six. If they never flip to the next set (which is what they were going to risk by having all lanyard people have the same pins), then these concealed pins could take years to come out...

Question: with all the order problems (delays and cancellations) can we really count on this LE 200 lanyard trading? I just wonder if I make the effort to get to Las Vegas with lanyard trading as one of my primary goals, if I will be disappointed... Seems like Acme/Hotart is good at promising and not coming through with the pins.

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I have been gone a while but it seems that things still are not as smooth as they should be. You would think that having such a great gift of being involved in this hobbie would make people take it more seriously. I wonder if it matters, they can kind of do what they want and it's like printing money. Some one will buy it at some point I guess.

My friends and I will be coming to town on Friday instead of Saturday because we know from experience if we get up way before sunrise on Saturday morning, as we would have to do, before the PTE is even half-over we will be very tired from the messed up sleep we had the night before.

In addition, the one who is driving will be very tired just from long the drive.

Arriving the day before, well before the normal time we would go to sleep, should enable us to get a good nights sleep Friday night. This will enable us to arrive at the event with enough energy to remain at the top of our game through the event.

My friends and I will be coming to town on Friday instead of Saturday because we know from experience if we get up way before sunrise on Saturday morning, as we would have to do, before the PTE is even half-over we will be very tired from the messed up sleep we had the night before.

In addition, the one who is driving will be very tired just from long the drive.

Arriving the day before, well before the normal time we would go to sleep, should enable us to get a good nights sleep Friday night. This will enable us to arrive at the event with enough energy to remain at the top of our game through the event.

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Sounds great! We are still driving in the AM cuz sis has to work til 6 pm on Friday. Plus, I'm getting up at my normal time for work (5 am) so I should be ok.

Sigh... I think I need a break from this hobby. Too complicated, too many rules, too much effort and then you get another rule, takes the fun out of things and this is supposed to be something I do for fun.

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Sad that this is making you feel that way. I would hope that a company given such a great opportunity would do a much better job. It seems very clear to me that they would like to make money at any and all points possible but they do not have the staff or info structure to support such a business plan. They should be adding to what was already a great hobby but seems they are dragging it down in some ways.

I have some suggestions to make sure Vegas is a great event so if you would please pass them onto Lenny and Lisa, I would appreciate it.

Registration: Have at least three people manning the registration area. If it is possible and the hotel will let you, create lines with tape on the carpet that you can remove at the end of the event.

Start registration at 10 a.m. for those who purchased tables (30) and those who purchased early entry (50). Presumably, they will have different colored wristbands. After going through those, start taking the free entry people with a third colored wristband, even if they arrive before 12 noon. Just don't let them into the ballroom until noon.

Sales: Have a sales table outside, near registration. If it is possible and the hotel will let you, create lines with tape on the carpet that you can remove at the end of the event.

Start sales at 10 a.m. Have at least three people manning the "booth" so that they can sell the Pinopolis pins that are needed to trade for the lanyard traders inside as well as the Golden Magic pins. This will help get people excited to trade once they enter at 11 a.m. or 12 noon for the free entrance traders. All people who are manning the booth should be capable of taking payment so you'll need mobile card readers for all of them. The number of people in sales can be reduced when the crowds dissipate (so probably by 1 pm).

Have a sales table inside as well, so people don't have to exit the trading room to purchase more pins. This should also be set up with more lanyard traders, Golden Magic Pins, and any other pins you want to sell.

Ballroom (outside): Have one entrance (to begin with) and have it manned by one or two people (depends if there is a regular sized door to enter, or double doors). Let the people who bought tables into the ballroom first, so they have time to set up before the early entry people are allowed in. That way, the table purchases will have everything set up to trade with the early entry guests and they can start trading.

Once the free trading time opens up, open up both entrances to the room. These entrances no longer need to be manned.

Lanyard traders: Have one person go around to all five pin masters at least once an hour to collect the pins that have been traded (to sell to others). Although, depending on what pin is released, it may need to be more than once an hour.

I think that's it for now. If I come up with any more ideas, I will let you know. I know Lenny got a PA system for Las Vegas so that will be good for those traders who purchased the tables to come up to trade at the boards!

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Good stuff Li. Looks like they can use all the help they can get. Things do not seem to be running very smoothly. Please do not like that when it comes to money and trust. This guys have had trouble from the beginning and it is not gotten better as of yet. Best of luck to you at that event. Hopefully it will grow and maybe next year they can get a nice hotel. Sadly CC has gone way down over the years. I would definitely not stay on site. We always stay down the street at treasure island. Best of luck yo you.

It sounds like they have taken away the limits for the trades so that you can make as many trades as you purchase pins for

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Where did you see that info? Their rules/ policies still mention the tickets Pinopolis

I guess you get to trade until all your pins and tickets are gone, but you're still limited to a certain number of trades per lanyard color.

Upon purchasing your lanyard trader blind bag of either 10 or 20 pins you will receive your tickets for lanyard trading. You will receive 2 tickets for each color lanyard with the purchase of a 10 count blind bag, you will receive 4 tickets per color lanyard with the purchase of a 20 count blind bag.

Where did you see that info? Their rules/ policies still mention the tickets Pinopolis

I guess you get to trade until all your pins and tickets are gone, but you're still limited to a certain number of trades per lanyard color.

Upon purchasing your lanyard trader blind bag of either 10 or 20 pins you will receive your tickets for lanyard trading. You will receive 2 tickets for each color lanyard with the purchase of a 10 count blind bag, you will receive 4 tickets per color lanyard with the purchase of a 20 count blind bag.

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Yup, limited by lanyard color, but instead of being limited to 10 trades total (2 per lanyard with 5 lanyards), you are limited by the number of pins purchased. It doesn't sound like there is a limit for the purchase of pins.

Yup, limited by lanyard color, but instead of being limited to 10 trades total (2 per lanyard with 5 lanyards), you are limited by the number of pins purchased. It doesn't sound like there is a limit for the purchase of pins.

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Ohh yes, that seems right. HMMM.. I may also need to pre-sell some pins xD haha