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So,If I pull with 1Kg of force for 1 meter in half a secondThis is the same acceleration as if I pull it in 1 second?No, it is not. It is twice as fast.

In the half sec pull the acceleration is twice as fast.It is accelerating 1kg @ 2m/s/s for 1mVs the 1 sec pull that accelerates 1kg @ 1m/s/s for 1m

You cannot have energy without time.Convert it any way you want to.Time is always in the equation.

If you negate time (as with a magnetic force) you have only a timeless quantity: similar to weight.Weight is not the energy imparted on you by gravity.This only happens when you fall.Your weight is only a force/pressure, not an acceleration force. Which is why it is in Lbs or Kg.

Connect your N meter spring scale to a normal weight scaleand move it to the reading your magnet gives you.Now you have an accurate value of what you are measuring.A pressure/force, in Lbs., timeless. (Force measured in this way is not really force, also a spaceless dimension, so pressure is not the right term either)

Gravity has an inherent time constant.

Magnetism does not. Magnetic acceleration is mass dependent and also depends on changes in the field, and direction of motion.This time constraint must be measured or calculated to determine the acceleration.

Without acceleration you only have a constant pressure applied to the object.it is the “weight” placed on that object by the magnetic field.

To imply an energy quotient to a force, there must be acceleration.movement.Distance over a time.

At no point can you just choose to ignore time.Even in versions of the equation where time is not seen,it is embedded into the variables. (such as acceleration)

Start with the energy value, and work the equation backwardsderive the time mathematically.

If there is movement, there is velocity. Distance / timeChange in velocity from no movement to movement over timeis acceleration. distance / time / time

Now take a 1Kg hunk of metal and move it 1 meter in 1 secondand watch your scales.

Magnetic fields are measured by strength. Not by energy.The force is derived from the strength of the two interacting fields.In your case these are the magnetic field and the secondary field inducedin the nut.

Movement of the nut changes the potential energy of the system.Because the secondary field changes location within the magnetic field.The field interaction equations handle the strength of the fields and give a time-based acceleration force between them. If one field is fixed in space,the force is applied to the movable field.

This is an acceleration: distance /time / time.Which can be used to derive the final velocity after time x.If you know the strength of the fields you can determine boththe potential energy change in the system caused by your motionand the change in kinetic energy when you release the tension.

Knowing only the pressure at one location, and not having the other information you cannot even calculate the energy.

The reading on your scale in the way you are trying to use itis giving you a timeless value.Plot individual points, and the scale readings across a distance, with a set time interval of the motion.

Record the scales and play it back frame by frame for 1 second.(however many frames per second your camera allows)

Fill in the equations and compare this to what you previously posted ^^^

The experiment itself proclaims that the forces are not the same at every distance.Change in distance results in a change in the force of the field interactions.There is a different acceleration at every distance (when one or more fields are not fixed).If there is no motion, there is no energy.

You DO have a set value of energy stored in the spring.But to know what this is, you need to know the field strength of the interacting magnets.and the mass of the objects being moved (we can ignore the mass and motion of the spring for simplicity, since it moves itself to equilibrium)

The potential energy stored in the spring comes from YOU.You placed that “energy” into the scales when you performed the experiment.This is the energy it took your hand to pull the spring to that distance.The field holding the spring at that reading is motionless at that point.And is not accelerating. The change in energy held in the spring occurred WHILE it was moving.

I will compound this further by stating you have no idea how much “extra energy”your hand put into the spring above what was required to cause the motion.You can’t “feel” your hand’s rate of acceleration.You know there is an amount of potential energy stored in the springAnd you know that this can be equated to the same value of gravitational force required tocause the same reading in a vertical plane.So a comparison of the scales at a set measurement gives you a mass x gravityAnd in this manner you know that 1N is 1N when it is stored in the spring.

For the purpose of the experiment you can glue the mass to the table.and pull your springs to match the same reading.You know there is 1N stored in the spring, but you may have used 2N to do that.You don’t know because you did not measure the acceleration.You only measured the final force reading on the scales.

Ok, whatever, do your own calculations based on the video of the experiment, if you like. The video just shows what happens when you pull that magnet. But don't do that wrong. You know about science surprisingly lot, but please learn some elementary things about physics. Just take some time for that. I clearly showed where you were wrong. Please don't understand it wrongly, it doesn't make me happy to show that i'm smarter. But it will make me glad if you don't misunderstand.

Follow the link in the first sentence of your own linkThis will tell you what Force is.

Newton’s second law states that the motion is unhindered.This is key to understanding what force is.When motion IS hindered the result is pressure, stress, strainon the physical materials. The variables necessary to determine the energy involved are not available in your experiment.There is no acceleration when there is no relative movement.

The instantaneous value read on your scale applies to that point in the field.There is an acceleration potential, but that is hindered in the experiment.

Try to follow:At distance X you measure 1N.This a force applied to your scale by the field strength AT that point.at distance X^2, the field strength is 1/4 of its’ original value.In the space between X <-> X^2 the force changes with distance from X.

The actual Force on the magnet F = (change in) (m * B)Where m is the magnet moment of the magnet, and B is the field strengthat the location measured. Here you see the changing potential energy at every point betweenthe two points within the field. These energies can be then summed to get your total.In this manner you can measure the true energy, irrespective of time.(up to a degree of accuracy defined by your increments of measure)As potential (not kinetic) energy.

I will attempt to give you another way of measuring so that your scales can work for your experiment.

Suspend the scales by the tension on the nut/hookand a string that is wrapped on a pulley connected to a ~0.98Kg weight.This will calibrate your opposition force.Zero the scale by holding the hook in place and allowing the weight to set the 1N value.Now you have the force of gravity applying constant resistance to the magnetic field.Take several measurements from the starting point to the ending point.Then plot the change in potential energy over distance by the change in force at each point.

Here you do not need a clock, because you are measuring a change in potential energy. (timeless)

Your field has an integral force. The acceleration is different between every chosen pair of points.(assuming the value of distance changes between them)as it accelerates through the field the value of acceleration changes with distance.When you measure the “pull” on a spring, you are only measuring one location.Irrespective of time. There can be no energy at only this point.The energy is in the potential between two points.

Technically speaking, gravity also changes with distance from the earth,But we can consider it to be “constant” at our human altitudes for the purpose of this experiment.

Well, this is what I have. But without a mechanical support at one point it does not work.

Try to make the axis shorter or move the stationary magnets more left and right. Then the axis should sit in the cavity, and maybe you can get rid of the support. Even with support though, the friction of it is very low.

No, but it is the same energy. If with the same force it moves twice as fast, then there is likely much less mass.

> E=mass x acceleration

No, force = mass x acceleration , not energy.

sorry i get flustered when I type too fast.My brain took the derivative and just wrote that down....

That should read something more like mass x the final velocity after acceleration the point is, Time is accounted for by the equation.Without the time integral, the closest we can get is to measure the potential between aninfinite number of points across the distance. And use a sub-equivalent conversion ofPE to KE. and there are many reasons we will never achieve the “ideal situation” ofconverting 100% of the energy by experiment to agree with our theory.It is close enough for us to use, but is not a true representation of the energy.Magnetic fields don’t have time.Every representation of time is due to masses and field strengths which are not known.(you could weigh your nut but you don’t know the inductance, the magnetic moment afterit is magnetized, or the strength of the two combined fields.)

I should also point out that there is a quantity of energy used to induce a magnetic fieldin the nut. And the energy required to do this changes also with distance.If you apply Maxwell’s equations you find that this change in energy is the cause of your assymetry. And total field energy has never changed, except by the quantity you placed into itwhile positioning the nut.

Distances moved, and for each distance the force to the magnet. A distance multiplied by that force is energy. Calculate energy for all distances moved, and sum all these energies, this is energy at one side.

Ok, that drawing again, it didn't look so nice previous time. The small magnet there is at the neutral position. Left and right from the neutral position on that drawing, is what i mean by left and right. I found by measurements that energy is greater at the left side. 13.14 mJ at the left side and 5.15 mJ at the right side (without friction).

Just to clarify, on your diagram, a smaller magnet is a magnet or a nut?Can you plz provide approximate dimensions of your setup?Thanks.