"HEY why is this country suddenly all worried and weeping for Average Joe the Fucking Plumber who's got TWO HUNDRED and FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS burning a hole in his pocket? I mean if you have that kind of cash we all KNOW you're going to hire a rat-fucking bastard tax accountant who'll find you little loopholes to squirrel your nuts away in, so you won't PAY any increased taxes ANYWAY. But the only way most of us will see $250k in a year is to WIN THE FUCKING LOTTERY. So my fellow Americans, why did Joe the Fucking Plumber hijack the debates last night?" [link to ketzl.livejournal.com]

This is what Michelle Malkin said today:

Brace yourself, Joe. The Obama Thugocracy is gunning for you. But what they don’t seem to understand is that even if Joe was John McCain’s long lost son and a huge donor to the GOP, or not even a plumber, it would not matter at all because what was shocking about the video was not what Joe the Plumber said. Joe the Plumber is not going to be making tax policy. What was shocking and more relevant than anything else that has been said in the entire campaign is what Barack Obama said. He told Joe that it is okay to soak those making more than $250,000, even small businesses making that, because then you can “spread the wealth” around and everyone benefits. That is redistribution of wealth — taking from the rich (and from the kinda rich) and giving to the not so rich and the poor. And Obama admitted to it. Out loud. And on video. [link to michellemalkin.com]

O and by the way as Michelle said in her post:here is what Joe said: “I’m getting ready to buy a company that makes about 250, 270 - 80 thousand dollars a year, your new tax plan is going to tax me more isn’t it? I’m getting taxed more and more for fulfilling the American dream.” Got that? He didn’t say he makes that now. You should have gotten the clue when he said “I am getting ready to buy a company.”

So the liberal screamer wasn't even factual.

Michelle is so right! I am perplexed by the liberal rage. Truly I am.

Quoting: Dread Pirate Roberts

From 36% to 39%, my oh my and people are freaking about the words "share the wealth", try going into your community and spend some time with people who are truly struggling, working day in and day out in a low-income job and tell them sorry but no way can I handle an increase of 3% of my 250,000 a year income, pathetic absolutely pathetic and frankly shame on anyone that makes that amount of money a year and is complaining about a 3% tax increase.

"HEY why is this country suddenly all worried and weeping for Average Joe the Fucking Plumber who's got TWO HUNDRED and FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS burning a hole in his pocket? I mean if you have that kind of cash we all KNOW you're going to hire a rat-fucking bastard tax accountant who'll find you little loopholes to squirrel your nuts away in, so you won't PAY any increased taxes ANYWAY. But the only way most of us will see $250k in a year is to WIN THE FUCKING LOTTERY. So my fellow Americans, why did Joe the Fucking Plumber hijack the debates last night?" [link to ketzl.livejournal.com]

This is what Michelle Malkin said today:

Brace yourself, Joe. The Obama Thugocracy is gunning for you. But what they don’t seem to understand is that even if Joe was John McCain’s long lost son and a huge donor to the GOP, or not even a plumber, it would not matter at all because what was shocking about the video was not what Joe the Plumber said. Joe the Plumber is not going to be making tax policy. What was shocking and more relevant than anything else that has been said in the entire campaign is what Barack Obama said. He told Joe that it is okay to soak those making more than $250,000, even small businesses making that, because then you can “spread the wealth” around and everyone benefits. That is redistribution of wealth — taking from the rich (and from the kinda rich) and giving to the not so rich and the poor. And Obama admitted to it. Out loud. And on video. [link to michellemalkin.com]

O and by the way as Michelle said in her post:here is what Joe said: “I’m getting ready to buy a company that makes about 250, 270 - 80 thousand dollars a year, your new tax plan is going to tax me more isn’t it? I’m getting taxed more and more for fulfilling the American dream.” Got that? He didn’t say he makes that now. You should have gotten the clue when he said “I am getting ready to buy a company.”

So the liberal screamer wasn't even factual.

Michelle is so right! I am perplexed by the liberal rage. Truly I am.

From 36% to 39%, my oh my and people are freaking about the words "share the wealth", try going into your community and spend some time with people who are truly struggling, working day in and day out in a low-income job and tell them sorry but no way can I handle an increase of 3% of my 250,000 a year income, pathetic absolutely pathetic and frankly shame on anyone that makes that amount of money a year and is complaining about a 3% tax increase.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472562

I live below the poverty level and I do not begrudge one person one red cent of that they honestly earn, whether it is $10 or 10 million. I have worked in a fish factory, I worked at cleaning dorms, I worked at a movie theater cleaning up sopping condoms, I worked at a bittle redemption with sticky bottles containing unspeakable things inside. I do live in an area that is not known for wealth shall we say. Please, next time, just ask me before making an assumption about how I live.

I still do not begrudge one cent of what anyone makes as long as they come by it honestly.

And I do not want their money. Because I did not earn it. They did.

Obama can keep his spreading wealth. It's not the American way.

"From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17

No. Really. You're kidding me. Barack Obama actually told that Joe the Plumber guy that he wants to "spread the wealth around." What, did Obama just get done reading the Wikipedia entry on Huey "Share the Wealth" Long or something? Was he somehow channeling that left-wing populist from the Depression? Talk about playing into the most extreme stereotype of your party, that it is infested with socialists.

A while back I chatted with a University of Chicago professor who was a frequent lunch companion of Obama's. This professor said that Obama was as close to a full-out Marxist as anyone who has ever run for president of the United States. Now, I tend to quickly dismiss that kind of talk as way over the top. My working assumption is that Obama is firmly within the mainstream of Democratic politics. But if he is as free with that sort of redistributive philosophy in private as he was on the campaign trail this week, I have no doubt that U of C professor really does figure him as a radical. And after last night's debate, a few more Americans might think that way, too. McCain's best line: "Now, of all times in America, we need to cut people's taxes. We need to encourage business, create jobs, not spread the wealth around."

And by the way, I just noticed that the IBD/TIPP poll, the most accurate in 2004, has McCain down by just 3 points. If the contest is perceived by the voters as a contest between a wealth redistributor and a wealth creator, then it could be a long night come Nov. 4. This is still a center-right country, gang.

Note this Gallup poll from June:

When given a choice about how government should address the numerous economic difficulties facing today's consumer, Americans overwhelmingly—by 84% to 13%—prefer that the government focus on improving overall economic conditions and the jobs situation in the United States as opposed to taking steps to distribute wealth more evenly among Americans.

There you go.

:unitesocia:

Quoting: PACNWguy

Thanks to Bush's bailout package, we are already a socialist nation and we will see a depression no matter who wins the election.

OBAMA IS STILL LEADING IN ALL THE MAJOR POLLS...why -because AMERICANS are ready for new leadership and vision.

Given that A MAJORITY OF AMERICANS are poor and middle class, a re-distribution of wealth will BENEFIT THEMIMMENSELY!

This is the FUTURE OF AMERICA - DON'T LIKE IT THEN LEAVE!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 490625

You know, I hate to say it, but this is the third black guy in a week to do something that would affect Obama adversely. I think McCain may be paying these guys - Jesse Jackson, this guy and Farrakahn saying he was the messiah - Farrakahn had to know that this would piss off lots of poeple, which to me says he really isn't for Obama.

Steve Smith (I think it is smith) is his Karl Rove protege in McCains camp. Sounds like something he would do. McCain used to be better before he started running for president back in 2006 and completely did an about face from what he truly believes in.

You may have noticed-- there was a lot of talk about Senator Obama's tax increases and Joe the Plumber. Last weekend, Senator Obama showed up in Joe's driveway to ask for his vote, and Joe asked Senator Obama a tough question. I'm glad he did; I think Senator Obama could use a few more tough questions.

The response from Senator Obama and his campaign yesterday was to attack Joe. People are digging through his personal life and he has TV crews camped out in front of his house. He didn't ask for Senator Obama to come to his house. He wasn't recruited or prompted by our campaign. He just asked a question. And Americans ought to be able to ask Senator Obama tough questions without being smeared and targeted with political attacks.

The question Joe asked about our economy is important, because Senator Obama's plan would raise taxes on small businesses that employ 16 million Americans. Senator Obama's plan will kill those jobs at just the time when we need to be creating more jobs. My plan will create jobs, and that's what America needs.

Senator Obama says that he wanted to spread your wealth around. When politicians talk about taking your money and spreading it around, you'd better hold onto your wallet. Senator Obama claims that wants to give a tax break to the middle class, but not only did he vote for higher taxes on the middle class in the Senate, his plan gives away your tax dollars to those who don't pay taxes.

That's not a tax cut, that's welfare. America didn't become the greatest nation on earth by redistributing wealth; we became the greatest nation by creating new wealth.

redistribute the wealth = as in = change the laws, close corporate loopholes, subsidies and tax credits that allow the corporations to make profit in and off of the US people and legally avoid putting the money back into the system. Sucking the majority dry and not giving anything back. (like keeping jobs here and not overseas outsourcing, for example) Taking the "socialism" the 5 % upper crust has created for themselves by lobbying and taking care of their self-interest and bringing it back down by lobbyists for the people, capitalism for the rest of us. The big corporations (oil, pharma, banks, you know the ones--- not the small businesses. Just the ones who do not allow it to "trickle down", unless you mean trickle down into their pockets in Paraquay...)

In an Obama Thugocracy, why work? Obama will just give you other people's hard earned wealth. He says so. That's his goal and that's why communism always fails. Eventually, the suckers who are being productive figure out that it is all in vain to attempt to better oneself as it will be taken from you and given to the supporters of the politicos.

And this is exactly why these people are supporting Obama right now. They WANT your hard earned money to be taken from you and given to their sorry, lazy asses.

Don't let them get away with it. Socialist Barry is buying votes now the same way he did in the past with his thugs at Acorn and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mack. They threatened banks if they didn't give loans to the thugs. So they did and crashed the economy.

People are supporting Obama because they WANT him to take from the working class through taxes and GIVE IT TO THEM for nothing. Can you say LEECHES?

if you make less than $250,000 obama gives you some monetary relief. if you make more that $250,000 you will have to pay a little more in taxes.

the economy is destroyed. our national debt is beyond belief. some how we need to meet those challenges without the middle class becoming peasants.

if you want to fight for the people who have to decide whether to sell their vacation home and not for people who are wondering where and how they are going to live then go republican. i think you would be cutting your own throat.

------------------------------------------------------I live below the poverty level and I do not begrudge one person one red cent of that they honestly earn, whether it is $10 or 10 million. I have worked in a fish factory, I worked at cleaning dorms, I worked at a movie theater cleaning up sopping condoms, I worked at a bittle redemption with sticky bottles containing unspeakable things inside. I do live in an area that is not known for wealth shall we say. Please, next time, just ask me before making an assumption about how I live. ---------------------------------------------------------I still do not begrudge one cent of what anyone makes as long as they come by it honestly.

And I do not want their money. Because I did not earn it. They did.

Obama can keep his spreading wealth. It's not the American way.

Who said you or anyone that needed help when they are in a crisis begrudges anyone else that makes more money than them? Don't add to what I've said, thank you. Nor are you going to get anyone else's money by a tax increase. And if you don't stand in line at the crisis assistance ministry in which is mainly run by kindhearted volunteers helping people in a financial crisis, then also don't begrudge that father, or that single mother or that grandmother who can't make ends meet that month and don't want to have their electricity cut off or their children out in the streets for reaching out for help. In fact many people who have received help when they faced a crisis and then found themselves in a better situation come back to the organization and either donate their time or donate financially to help another in need, its called people helping people and if you don't think that should be the American way, I'd be glad to not consider myself within the same context of values and belief as what you hold, no problem.

From 36% to 39%, my oh my and people are freaking about the words "share the wealth", try going into your community and spend some time with people who are truly struggling, working day in and day out in a low-income job and tell them sorry but no way can I handle an increase of 3% of my 250,000 a year income, pathetic absolutely pathetic and frankly shame on anyone that makes that amount of money a year and is complaining about a 3% tax increase.-----------------------------------------------------I live below the poverty level and I do not begrudge one person one red cent of that they honestly earn, whether it is $10 or 10 million. I have worked in a fish factory, I worked at cleaning dorms, I worked at a movie theater cleaning up sopping condoms, I worked at a bittle redemption with sticky bottles containing unspeakable things inside. I do live in an area that is not known for wealth shall we say. Please, next time, just ask me before making an assumption about how I live.

I still do not begrudge one cent of what anyone makes as long as they come by it honestly.

And I do not want their money. Because I did not earn it. They did.

Obama can keep his spreading wealth. It's not the American way.

Quoting: Dread Pirate Roberts

I'm reposting to make sure my response reflects to your post.

Who said you or anyone that needed help when they are in a crisis begrudges anyone else that makes more money than them? Don't add to what I've said, thank you. Nor are you going to get anyone else's money by a tax increase. And if you don't stand in line at the crisis assistance ministry in which is mainly run by kindhearted volunteers helping people in a financial crisis, then also don't begrudge that father, or that single mother or that grandmother who can't make ends meet that month and don't want to have their electricity cut off or their children out in the streets for reaching out for help. In fact many people who have received help when they faced a crisis and then found themselves in a better situation come back to the organization and either donate their time or donate financially to help another in need, its called people helping people and if you don't think that should be the American way, I'd be glad to not consider myself within the same context of values and belief as what you hold, no problem.

Us rednecks don't need Obamas handouts, we work for a living! Joe can keep HIS money!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 489021

Sure, he can keep it because he doesn't make enough to be in the tax bracket that will have an increase in the first place. Well wouldn't it be nice if everyone could keep the money they work for, but sadly its called the American way, tax the hell out of everything and everyone. But since we all have to pay our taxes, Joe the Plumber can pay his own back taxes before he considers buying a company. McCain even wants to tax the healthcare plan, now that's a new one.

So, Joe the Plumber, or any other hard working business owner (or potential business owner) who spends long hours everyday building up his/her business so he can reap the rewards now has to fork it over to those who make less. Why? Because Obama says "It's not fair" Boo hoo...I make no where near $250.000, but I won't take hard earned money from those that do! I probably wouldn't see it anyway...it would all go to ACORN.

So, Joe the Plumber, or any other hard working business owner (or potential business owner) who spends long hours everyday building up his/her business so he can reap the rewards now has to fork it over to those who make less. Why? Because Obama says "It's not fair" Boo hoo...I make no where near $250.000, but I won't take hard earned money from those that do! I probably wouldn't see it anyway...it would all go to ACORN.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 529171

LOL, come on folks, surely people in America are smarter than thinking they would receive money from a tax increase from the group of people who make more than 250,000 a year. The government gets it people, when has it been any different, but hopefully the money they receive in taxes will finally start to be put to some good, one can only hope.

So, Joe the Plumber, or any other hard working business owner (or potential business owner) who spends long hours everyday building up his/her business so he can reap the rewards now has to fork it over to those who make less. Why? Because Obama says "It's not fair" Boo hoo...I make no where near $250.000, but I won't take hard earned money from those that do! I probably wouldn't see it anyway...it would all go to ACORN.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 529171

Okay....this whole thing is about people/small businesses who BRING HOME $250,000.00 a year. Anything OVER a bring home pay of $250,000.00 will be taxed at 39%, not the whole amount, just what's OVER $250,000.00!!!

Now, if you bring HOME a quarter million dollars a year, are you not willing to to help fund SERVICES that effect us ALL? Roads, schools, veterans, special needs, and yes, even some welfare recipients? Are you not willing to pay for these services at the rate of 3% taxation on anything OVER the $250,000.00 that you have in your POCKET?