We (our family of four) are planning on traveling to Switzerland during our children's Autumn break. Our children are 4 and nearly 6, at the time of travel and they are avid travelers and always up for new adventures. We live in the UK, and would like to attempt the itinerary below. (Then please see questions below)

Day 6 - Thursday, October 23Morning Train to Lucern- Stanserhorn - www.stanserhorn.ch - with the historic funicular and the brand new Cabriolet (convertible) cable car.- cruises on lake Lucerne partly with steamboats - www.lakelucerne.ch- the medeaval citywall and it's towers/gates (musegg wall) around the old town.

Day 7 - Friday, October 24 Mt Titlis or Mt PilatusThinking Mt TitlisA trip to Engelberg for Mt Titlis also can allow you a few hours to stroll that very pretty little town, which is recommended. The train ride to/from is a remarkable journey by itself. Be sure to check out the extremely impressive interior of the Abbey church in Engleberg, which is completely unidentified by any signage, but the people there can help direct you around.

Night train to Zurich

Day 8 -Saturday, October 25Rhine Falls (Schaffhausen)

Day 9 - Sunday, October 26explore Zurich if time permits prior to flight Zurich to LHR**We will most likely be back in Zurich in December/January for a few days

Questions: 1- We would really, really like to ski at Jungfraujoch. We realize everything is dependent on the unknown factor of weather, but would this be possible?

2- Can you ski at Mt Titlis?

3- Getting the 8 day rail pass the best with the family card (I believe that is free, and then our children travel free - minus the extra trains we would have to pay for to get us to Jungfraujoch, etc)? We are assuming we can buy day passes or airport passes for public transport in Zurich for the 9th day?

4- Any thing we should necessarily take out? We try and make our travels interesting for our children and therefore add the Chocolate train days, skiing, etc.

Note that skiing requires experience, it's not something to try for a few hours. Other snow activities like snow tubing and sledging can be done by anyone.

3) An 8-day Swiss Saver Pass does indeed match your plans, and the Swiss Family Card is free. You can get it from the official shop at www.swissrailways.com/ en/products/swisspass. There is no shipping fee to the UK, and payment can be done in GBP (so no exchange rate costs). All points of sale are listed at the Swiss Pass page. For Zurich, a Zurich Card may come in handy (info and links are at our Zurich page). It also allows a free ride up to the Uetliberg.

4) I think your itinerary looks fine. Just make sure you're flexible and adjust your plans according to the weather. Personally I would add a hike and not spend much time on the town of Engelberg, but of course these are choices that depend on personal interests.

The major difference between the two passes is that the Swiss Half Fare Card requires you to buy tickets for each trip, at half the fare, whereas the Swiss Pass allows free unlimited trips and you don't need tickets (mountain trips are discounted). This guide explains how to determine which pass will work out cheaper overall.