Well, maybe everybody doesn't have a newer Panasonic. I don't know why anyone would think of using Netflix anywhere but the PS3 as it's pretty near perfect on that platform.

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Because many more people to NOT have a PS3 than DO have them? You can make our arguments with most any product...my point is that using Netflix is MUCH smoother on my Panny than on the Premiere...and the ultimate point is that using Netflix on the Premiere basically sucks...

Not to continue to derail this thread (but, of course, I will). I don't know why anyone would bother using Netflix on any TiVo when it works so well on a Panny TV I'm an infrequent user, but it's seamless. When I tried it on my XL4, it was balky (even BEFORE the last update). I'm sure the Roamio is better (how could it be worse?), but using it on an Internet-connected TV is MUCH smoother...

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I can think of some. The PS3 uses several times more power than the Premiere and many times more power than something like a ROku or BD player.

The PS3 is also borked for 3D playback from Netflix. It is limited to 720P3D while my Sony 3D BD player can play the 1080P 3D streams from Netflix.

For 2D streaming the Roamio is a much better option than the PS3. When I had the PS3 that was pretty much my last choice for Netflix streaming, just from the power issue.

My Sony 3D BD player was easily better for Netflix streaming than my PS3 was. I finally traded in my PS3 a few weeks ago since I had no more use for it. Since everything it did, I had other devices that were as good or better and used less power. I had a launch PS3 and a launch Slim, at they was certainly a great value years ago. But it's functions had been equaled or surpassed.

My Roamio Pro and two Minis are my primary Netflix players for 2D streaming now. I'll need to check out my Premiere to see if it got the update. Since it sounds like my Box was one of the ones that had it's service number in the Black hole.

Because many more people to NOT have a PS3 than DO have them? You can make our arguments with most any product...my point is that using Netflix is MUCH smoother on my Panny than on the Premiere...and the ultimate point is that using Netflix on the Premiere basically sucks...

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I fully agree with you although I'd bet more people have PS3's than have new Panasonic's but the point is mute. Your point is correct.

We did find 1000 priority sign-ups that got lost in a bit of black hole. (Sorry!) I've been told that the next time those boxes make a connection to the TiVo Service they will download the update.

--Margret

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Still no update here, even after forcing my XL4 to call home again this morning. I checked the Priority Update Request web site again and it still says "The box you entered is already on the priority list to receive the update."

Yeah, I had forced a connection (to no avail) not more than an hour or two before it connected on its own at 5:30 and that's when the update downloaded -- on the second connection. Looks like whatever was clogging things up was fixed mid to late afternoon today.

I just got my update but nothing I have been asking to be fixed was fixed :-( Netflix app still sucks and no Amazon Prime. I still have to use Roku for my streaming. I guess TIVO isn't focused on updating the Premieres to have a smooth and user friendly streaming experience.

Apps are developed by the outside party, and updates are not necessarily tied to new tivo software. It was clear from the notes that netflix changes were not included.

However, Zatz has indicated netflix changes are in the works. Talk to Amazon about Prime, it is their app to create, and many of us would love that as a feature.

I'm also on the wait and see list, but there are some noted features that we have had little to no feedback on. Anything from the user community on these items?

- Press the C button in the Guide to filter by genre >> How does this work?
- Updated WishList screens in HD >> Any new functionality? Or is this more a HD version of the previous pages?
- Removed "Browse Web Videos" -- you can find web videos in Search, or use the "Web Video Hotlist", AOL.on, or YouTube apps
- new (HTML5) YouTube app with DIAL support >> I read this site all the time, how does this help my experience??
- fixed the issue where some boxes with Tuning Adapters stopped recording TiVo Suggestions >> I don't have a TA, but obviously this is a long standing issue. Are TA users happy with the changes here?

I just got my update but nothing I have been asking to be fixed was fixed :-( Netflix app still sucks and no Amazon Prime. I still have to use Roku for my streaming. I guess TIVO isn't focused on updating the Premieres to have a smooth and user friendly streaming experience.

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The Premiere doesn't have Amazon Prime and probably never will. That is an Amazon decision, not a TiVo one and I suspect it has to do with the underpowered platform. If that is true - we may see Amazon Prime on the Roamio's, eventually.

A Netflix update was rumored to be part of this release, but it seems as though it has been delayed. But I wouldn't get my hopes up for a smoother implementation - for the same reason you will never see an Amazon Prime app, it is hardware bound.

So ask all you want - just understand that all you are doing is pissing into the wind....

- Press the C button in the Guide to filter by genre >> How does this work?
- Updated WishList screens in HD >> Any new functionality? Or is this more a HD version of the previous pages?
- Removed "Browse Web Videos" -- you can find web videos in Search, or use the "Web Video Hotlist", AOL.on, or YouTube apps
- new (HTML5) YouTube app with DIAL support >> I read this site all the time, how does this help my experience??
- fixed the issue where some boxes with Tuning Adapters stopped recording TiVo Suggestions >> I don't have a TA, but obviously this is a long standing issue. Are TA users happy with the changes here?

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The Guide filter feature works well ... lets you choose things like movies, HD, comedy .... it shows an ordered list of movies currently showing and in the near future ( this is all text based ). This may be better than "what to watch now".

some have talked about the DIAL support for youtube. You use your phone/tablet youtube app to select the video and the youtube app starts and after a little time starts to play the video.

I thought I read (though I haven't yet tested) that the FF to live sound problem is now fixed.

WL looks the same other than being in HD. Functionality looks same....well maybe not. I see it has "Upcoming" in the first menu screen and I don't know if that was there before. I don't use WLs much (I only have one right now), so I'm unsure. Also, in the WL recording options, there's one there I don't remember "Record in HD only"...