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There's been plenty of holding. Offensive holding, that is. But those have never been called either. But you should know about offensive holding penalties, don't you? Isn't Okung one of the most penalized player in the NFL? I guess when you can't win fair and square, cheating is the next logical step.

The Seachickens know about holding alright them CB hold on to wr for dear life lockdown cb in deed

Indeed. It never get's called, so maybe it really isn't a foul?

FIFY by the way.

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NextBigThing wrote:

rice wasn't close to do as good as his stats would lead one to assume

okie dokie!!! He only had 1200 rec yards at 40, but he clearly isnt as good as it appears.

So with Alex he was 440 and 3 TDs which is 55 yds per game over 8 games.

The tie Crabs had 5 for 70 yards and a TD. I'm not going to break that down.

Crabtree had 4 catches for like 58 yards with Smith before the QB switch. He was definitely picking it up with Smith as he had three TDs in the last five quarters._________________
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Maybe you should look at his numbers again. Half the games Crabs barely had over 60 yards. Everyone made excuses for Smith on why he wasn't good. No line, no WRs... we got Crabs and VD for Smith. You realize how many QBs would kill for those weapons? I think once Kaep gets more games in and after the offseason we will see a badass offense here. Everything is here for any QB to succeed. Crabs is blowing up with Kaep now and I'm sure he was one of the ones lobbying for Kaep and now it's paying off._________________
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Maybe you should look at his numbers again. Half the games Crabs barely had over 60 yards. Everyone made excuses for Smith on why he wasn't good. No line, no WRs... we got Crabs and VD for Smith. You realize how many QBs would kill for those weapons? I think once Kaep gets more games in and after the offseason we will see a badass offense here. Everything is here for any QB to succeed. Crabs is blowing up with Kaep now and I'm sure he was one of the ones lobbying for Kaep and now it's paying off.

yea I'm 100% sure Crabs was lobbying for Kap to start. I didn't see it but I read that Crabs and Kap was at the press conference together and you can tell there's a much better relationship between the 2. I wish I can find the link but I read that Crabs took a subtle swipe at Alex by saying he wasn't given opportunities to make plays last year in the NFCCG. At this point the only person who might not like the switch is VD._________________

Maybe you should look at his numbers again. Half the games Crabs barely had over 60 yards. Everyone made excuses for Smith on why he wasn't good. No line, no WRs... we got Crabs and VD for Smith. You realize how many QBs would kill for those weapons? I think once Kaep gets more games in and after the offseason we will see a badass offense here. Everything is here for any QB to succeed. Crabs is blowing up with Kaep now and I'm sure he was one of the ones lobbying for Kaep and now it's paying off.

yea I'm 100% sure Crabs was lobbying for Kap to start. I didn't see it but I read that Crabs and Kap was at the press conference together and you can tell there's a much better relationship between the 2. I wish I can find the link but I read that Crabs took a subtle swipe at Alex by saying he wasn't given opportunities to make plays last year in the NFCCG. At this point the only person who might not like the switch is VD.

Yeah, Crab complained right after the NFCCG. What he forgot to say is that he had 4-5 drops in the previous game. If you want opportunities, you just have to earn them.

I'm pretty sure Crabtree would have done a press conference with Alex too if he had been on a hot streak. What it shows is just the he's happy right now. Keep him productive and he will remain happy. In the meantime, I don't see VD doing it. That's another guy we should try to make happy._________________

Yeah, Crab complained right after the NFCCG. What he forgot to say is that he had 4-5 drops in the previous game. If you want opportunities, you just have to earn them.

I'm pretty sure Crabtree would have done a press conference with Alex too if he had been on a hot streak. What it shows is just the he's happy right now. Keep him productive and he will remain happy. In the meantime, I don't see VD doing it. That's another guy we should try to make happy.

so because Crabs had some drops in the previous round he doesn't get targeted at all the most important game of the season and he's your #1 receiver? Look at how many times Delanie screwed up and Kap keeps coming back to him. You have to trust your guys to make plays and Alex doesn't. When San Fran played Green Bay in the game with The Catch 2, TO dropped like 10 balls that game and Young kept throwing to him. There's reason the receivers prefer Kap. Manningham became much more of a playmaker with Kap because catch actually threw him the ball whereas with Alex he was nonexistent._________________

Yeah, Crab complained right after the NFCCG. What he forgot to say is that he had 4-5 drops in the previous game. If you want opportunities, you just have to earn them.

I'm pretty sure Crabtree would have done a press conference with Alex too if he had been on a hot streak. What it shows is just the he's happy right now. Keep him productive and he will remain happy. In the meantime, I don't see VD doing it. That's another guy we should try to make happy.

so because Crabs had some drops in the previous round he doesn't get targeted at all the most important game of the season and he's your #1 receiver? Look at how many times Delanie screwed up and Kap keeps coming back to him. You have to trust your guys to make plays and Alex doesn't. When San Fran played Green Bay in the game with The Catch 2, TO dropped like 10 balls that game and Young kept throwing to him. There's reason the receivers prefer Kap. Manningham became much more of a playmaker with Kap because catch actually threw him the ball whereas with Alex he was nonexistent.

Mario actually had more catches per game with Alex than with Kap. There were drives Manningham would be the only guy he'd throw to. I don't think Alex favored or disfavored anyone. He simply took what the defense gave him. So, while I agree that Kap is a better passer than Alex, and the stats support that claim in some regards. Kap has thrown for 20 more yards per game, give or take. But in the meantime, we've rushed 40 fewer yards per game. We've punted more. Time of possession has diminished. Our defense has been on the field more. So I maintain that our offense hasn't been as efficient with Kap, and that has a ripple effect on the rest of the team's performance.

And Crabtree whining after the championship game.. I can't take his side and blame it on the QB. It wasn't QB play that sunk us in that game. It's the oh-so-usual change of offensive gameplan midway through the 3rd quarter, something we're far too familiar with by now. If we had kept running the ball, we would have won easily. And incidentally, Crabtree wouldn't have been targetted more. And at point, last year, Crabtree wasn't our #1 receiving option. VD was.

My question now is this: if Crabtree had only had 3 catches for 27 yards against the Cards, would we be having this discussion, or are people just infatuated with 1000 yards receivers? Yes, he is our #1 receiver, and a great one in my opinion. But if he only gets 900 yards next year, some bandwagonners here will go back to calling him a bust. He was on pace for 900 yards with Alex. So, you know what the difference can be between a lowly 900 yards receiver and a studly 1000 yards receiver? A good game._________________

I stand corrected on Manningham. And the thing is he didn't have 3 rec for 27 yards. He had a huge game a lot of that was Kap throwing him te ball and some of the catches were passes Alex wouldn't dare to make._________________

I stand corrected on Manningham. And the thing is he didn't have 3 rec for 27 yards. He had a huge game a lot of that was Kap throwing him te ball and some of the catches were passes Alex wouldn't dare to make.

I'm talking about the difference in perception. Would there be as much of a defense of Crab if he had fallen short of the 1000 yards mark? I'm just trying to be consistent here. I'm not absolving him of being a whiny little girl after the playoffs last year, just because he had 1105 yards this year. Just like I wasn't dismissing him as a tremendously talented receiver just because he had bad playoffs. You can go through the last four years of this board, and I dare you to find a post in which I said Crabtree shouldn't be our #1 receiver. I've always had faith in him. I'm just consistent. What I was saying about Kap, in this instance, it's that the two of them showing up together at a press conference doesn't necessarily means they have a great relationship. It simply means Crabtree is happy. If he had gotten 1000 yards with Alex, he would have done the same. When he struggled, he avoided the media at all cost. Now that he's playing well, he shows up._________________

Well that's what I'm saying. A receiver is happy with whoever can get him the ball because his play is 100% dependent on the qb. And Kap is feeding him the ball. Hes been singing Kap's praises since Kap went under center. he's never sung those praises for Alex. I believe there was rumblings that Crabtree never really cared for Alex as his qb since he was drafted._________________

Maybe you should look at his numbers again. Half the games Crabs barely had over 60 yards. Everyone made excuses for Smith on why he wasn't good. No line, no WRs... we got Crabs and VD for Smith. You realize how many QBs would kill for those weapons? I think once Kaep gets more games in and after the offseason we will see a badass offense here. Everything is here for any QB to succeed. Crabs is blowing up with Kaep now and I'm sure he was one of the ones lobbying for Kaep and now it's paying off.

Yeah, Crab complained right after the NFCCG. What he forgot to say is that he had 4-5 drops in the previous game. If you want opportunities, you just have to earn them.

I'm pretty sure Crabtree would have done a press conference with Alex too if he had been on a hot streak. What it shows is just the he's happy right now. Keep him productive and he will remain happy. In the meantime, I don't see VD doing it. That's another guy we should try to make happy.

Sure, Crabtree was at blame as well but he deserved a chance to get a ball when he had one on one. He was saying just because a WR isn't WIDE open, doesn't mean you can't throw it. Now, like you stated, the game prior he played like trash dropping three balls.

As for him lobbying Kaepernick to start? He has stated in every interview both QBs are his boys and wouldn't talk bad about either one. Crabs stated on ESPN he will roll and support with either man.

Does he like Kaepernick better as an buddy? Absolutely, he's not a regular QB and goes out with the fellas much more than others._________________
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