Gary Numan Digest Thu, 27 Apr 2000 Volume 2 : Issue 33
Today's Topics:
"down in the park" covers
and with strange eons even death may die
F1 at Silverstone...
Fave GN tunes and Absolution lyric
Favorite Non-Numan Discs/records
Final post on this subject
Hey check this out
My Numan 20
numan top 20 via jerry v
One-Off Shows Recorded?
Radio Heart - MTV2
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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 16:47:22 CDT
From: "jared cook"
Subject: "down in the park" covers
To: digest@GaryNumanFan.nu
Hey, this is jared again with another list of covers that i have. Thought
i'd do DitP this time around. Here's my short reviews:
1. Christian Death (The Iron Mask) - recorded live in what sounds like
a garage in front of an audience of 2. I actually really like this
one.
2. Faith & Disease (GoaWFC) - Pretty good one, and the only one i have
with female vocals (a plus).
3. Foo Fighters (Songs in the Key of X) - Good rock version. I also
a live version i snagged from andy mchaffie off napster. That one
is terrible.
4. Girls Under Glass (Nightmares) - Fairly straight cover version, the
line of the final two verses are repeated here. Not bad.
5. Marilyn Manson (Lunchbox EP) - My favorite DitP cover. I'm no
Mansonite, but i do love this cover. I also have a live version,
that one's good, but not great.
6. Offworld (GoaWFC) - fair version. Sounds very similar to the Reload
version. Considering both bands are(were) located in the NW U.S.A.
i would not be surprised if the two bands shared members.
7. Reload (Tubeway Navy) - Good one, better than Offworld.
8. Jimi Tenor (Random) - Probably my least favorite. I get the
impression that Tenor is making fun of the song. I don't like
that too much.
9. Terre Thaemlitz (Replicas Rubato) - the classical piano version is
the one i prefer of the 2 on the album (there is an electro version
as the hidden track). I don't like it as much as Numan's (denis
haines) piano version, but still quite good.
10. Timb the Enchanter (internet / napster) - a fan version, this is
an above average instrumental. Only 2 minutes long though.
Hope everyone enjoyed my list.
jared
P.S. - Have any Americans out there ordered stuff from NuStreet before? I'm
curious as to how long it takes to get an order, the quality of service,
etc. thanks.
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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 14:39:26 -0500
From: Val & Ben Iglar-Mobley
Subject: and with strange eons even death may die
To: The Gary Digest
I've been trying to figure out the storyline of 'Exile.' We'd heard
that 'Exile' was written to tell a story, more so than any other of his
albums, more so even than 'Sacrifice' which I thought had a clear
narrative form. But from what I can tell, if there's a story there it's
completely nonlinear, more hyper- than text.
Something I have noticed. Gary described 'Dominion Day' as opening the
album with a revelation that his hero has, that the divine power is in
actuality an evil force, and that once this power becomes aware that he
has discovered this, it begins searching for him. Through the album,
his hero is trying to understand what he's found out, and it unsettles
him, bringing him closer to madness. He realizes the world-- the way
it's put together-- has a malevolent underside. That there is a
darkness waiting just outside our perception, that we do not notice in
our assumption that the divine powers are benevolent to us.
That theme is exactly the essence of the stories H.P. Lovecraft wrote.
During the 1920s, Lovecraft wrote an entire series of short stories and
novellas around the concept that there are strange, alien beings present
everywhere in the world, much older than humanity but unnoticed by us,
with their own designs for the world with no concern for us. His
protagonists uncover pieces of the truth about the way the world is put
together through his stories, but generally by the end of each they each
end up insane or dead or both. Lovecraft inspired an entire generation
of gothic horror writers who both emulated his style and wrote within
the context of the very mythology he had created. He is widely
considered to be the inheritor of Poe's legacy.
'Exile' is the most Lovecraftian album I've ever encountered, much more
so than any with overt Lovecraft references, such as Fields of the
Nephilim or Nature Unveiled. Because it doesn't come right out and
state anything, but hints at, eludes to, and suggests. Just as
Lovecraft did. We are forced to construct our own horror of what is
being conveyed out of our own imaginations.
I wonder if Gary was reading any Lovecraft as he wrote the album. Does
anybody know? It wouldn't actually disprove the connection if he
wasn't; in a way that would give it an eerie realism.
lots of macabre love,
Ben
http://home.earthlink.net/~iglarmobley
* * *
"You have to consider the possibility that god does not like you. He
never wanted you. In all probability, he hates you."
> --Fight Club
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Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 22:05:40 -0500
From: Harper David
Subject: F1 at Silverstone...
To: "'NumanDigest'"
To all you lucky Numanoids going to Silverstone for the Formula 1 race...
I wish to hell that I could join you for I am a HUGE
fan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Michael Shumacher!!!
And while you are there, drink one or two for us here at MomoHaus!!!!
Martin Harper
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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 12:23:23 +0100 (BST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Linda=20Astrup?=
Subject: Fave GN tunes and Absolution lyric
To: digest@GaryNumanFan.NU
This is to answer Ben's last question:
As I've only ever heard 30 of Gary's songs I am not
going to list a full 20 favourites - just a handful:
1. Time To Die
2. Are 'Friends' Electric?
3.I Die:You Die
4. Down In The Park (I remember seeing the musicvideo
for this when I was 9 years old - made an impression)
5.Exile
By the way :
Even though it isn't mentioned in the lyricbooklet, I
believe that Gary sings, in Absolution, Close The Dead
Eyes Of God Made Lame.
Anyone (dis)agree?
Linda
I've been on TV, sold my face to you
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Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 23:03:04 EDT
From: HateGrape@aol.com
Subject: Favorite Non-Numan Discs/records
To: digest@garynumanfan.nu
Hmmmmm. Besides the entire 78-81 "machine era" recordings, as well as
sacrifice and exile, my CD player and turntable usually feature:
1) Peter Murphy: DEEP - better than anything he did with Bauhaus, an
essential addition to any collection
2) Negativeland: ESCAPE FROM NOISE - Possibly the greatest underground
college experimental album from the 80s. Priceless.
3) X-Ray Specs: GERMFREE ADOLESCENCE - I get tired of the Pistols too easily.
Nothing beats the screeching vocals of Poly Styrene on this classic 70s punk
release. "The day the world turned Day-Glo" is one of the best punk tunes
ever recorded. Period.
4) The Toasters: SKABOOM - First release from NY's favorite ska outfit does
not contain one dull song.
5) Th'Inbred: REPRODUCTION - Extremely hard to find 7" from the mid 80s of
pure, adrenaline laced punk/core with hysterical (and true) lyrics.
6) Wall of Voodoo : THE INDEX MASTERS / CALL OF THE WEST - Essential
listening. Possibly the greatest cover ever made of a Johnny Cash song (Ring
of Fire).
7) Killing Joke : KILLING JOKE - Their first (and greatest) album. If they
would re-release it with "eighties" as a bonus track it could quite possibly
be one of the best post-punk albums of all time.
8) Bill Nelson's Red Noise: SOUND ON SOUND - Next to Numan, Nelson's SOUND ON
SOUND is one of my all time favorite LPs. "Don't touch me I'm electric" can
be played 100 times back to back and you still will get into it.
9) David Bowie: EARTHLING - This CD is so underrated it makes me sick. One
of the best mixtures of techno and guitar's in my opinion. WHy didn't anyone
else get it?
-Nick (HateGrape)
Eagerly awaiting Sep. 2000---unless they change the release dates again!
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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 20:46:29 -0700
From: Michael Tressler
Subject: Final post on this subject
To: digest@garynumanfan.nu
Hi everyone. I posted, and then Tim Houtby posted,
"AFOS first album is just as good or better than anything Numan has=20
done (just my opinion)"
...Absolute shit Michael...
First, let me say (and I'll try to be brief in this post) that I know
that first statement is a little strongly worded, considering the
veracity of Numan fandom. I actually expected to get a lot more flack
for having said it.
Second, I think Tim should have been a little less offensive by simply
saying, "Michael, I whole-heartedly disagree with you."
Third, by saying "absolute shit" do you mean that because I like that
particular album as much or more than any GN album, OR (and this is what
I suspect), do you mean it's absolute shit that I would actually like
ANY album more than any GN album? Or thirdly, are you saying that my
opinion is worthless and I shouldn't even be allowed to have one?
This is what I feel you were saying, Tim, that no album or artist ever
has been, or ever will be, as good as anything Gary Numan has ever done
or will do, and anybody who doesn't think that way, well, they're
complete shit. It doesn=92t matter that I used AFOS first album. I could
have named a number of albums I feel that way about.
Let me put a question out to the entire digest. I would guess that
nearly every subscriber here has at least one or a few albums they would
categorize As Good As Or Better Than MOST Numan Albums (how about a new
Top 5?). And maybe some would go as far as I did in saying, As Good As
Or Better Than ANY Numan Album. I could probably put a couple in each
category. I am NOT slamming Gary Numan in any way. I've loved his music
for nearly twenty years now. But he is not the 'be-all and end-all' as
far as music goes, though I=92m sure some people here think so. We all
love other bands and artists as well, and to say what you said to me is
to say the same thing to ANYONE who loves any album as much as, or more
than, any Gary Numan album.
Now that our respective humble opinions are out in the open, lets put
the issue to rest.
Sincerely, Mike
Proud Member of the "34 and still listening to New Wave Music" Club.
Man-made machines, to control the days
Now machines control, while the man obeys
A second generation, a generation lost
While the man prepares, for the holocaust...
---AFOS, Man-Made
(sounds hauntingly Numanesque, eh?)
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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 14:13:56 EDT
From: WAR4PREZ@aol.com
Subject: Hey check this out
To: digest@garynumanfan.nu
The store CDuniverse.com has a special deal when you buy a custom CD if it is
$20 or more. You get a free portible cd player.
They have around 260 Numan tracks you can make your own cd on
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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 22:17:09 +1000
From: "Numaboy"
Subject: My Numan 20
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Hi all
When since i dont have too many people to share Numan with down here, =
i'm gonna share my
top 20 list with all of you :) ill either win friends or make enemies =
LOL
(hope im not too late)
I found this so tough to do and changed it many times but heres what i =
came up with :
1) Warriors
2) Dead Heaven
3) Your Facination
4) Cars (premier mix)
5) A Question of Faith
6) Generator
7) Outland
8) The Machman
9) My Breathing
10) Scar
11) America
12) Me I Disconnect from you
13) Dream Killer
14) Joe the Waiter
15) Every Day i Die
16) The Skin Game
17) I Still Remember
18) Tracks
19) Joy Circuit
20) Are You Real
Thanks for Reading :)
Darrin
http://numaboy.tripod.com=20
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Hi all
When since i dont have too many people to share = Numan with=20 down here, i'm gonna share my
top 20 list with all of you :) ill either win = friends or make=20 enemies LOL
(hope im not too late)
I found this so tough to do and changed it many = times but=20 heres what i came up with :
1) Warriors
2) Dead Heaven
3) Your Facination
4) Cars (premier mix)
5) A Question of Faith
6) Generator
7) Outland
8) The Machman
9) My Breathing
10) Scar
11) = America
12) Me I = Disconnect from=20 you
13) Dream Killer
14) Joe the Waiter
15) Every Day i Die
16) The Skin Game
17) I Still Remember
18) Tracks
19) Joy Circuit
20) Are You Real
Thanks for Reading :)
Darrin
http://numaboy.tripod.com =
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Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 13:43:56 CDT
From: "Jerry V. Howard"
Subject: numan top 20 via jerry v
To: digest@garynumanfan.nu
this is very difficult. my choices today, may be different than yesterday
and tomorrow. as of about 1:30pm CST easter sunday, this is what i've
decided:
1. Are 'Friends' Electric?
2. M.E.
3. A Question of Faith
4. Me! I Disconnect From You
5. I Die: You Die
6. A Ghost With the Child
7. Cry, the Clock Said
8. Love & Napalm
9. You Are In My Vision
10. Devious
11. I Can't Stop
12. The Angel Wars
13. Remind Me To Smile
14. Bleed
15. Praying to the Aliens
16. Observer
17. Basic J
18. Blue Eyes
19. My Shadow In Vain
20. Dark
-jerry v
www.geocities.com/jerry9393/numan.html
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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 15:26:02 EDT
From: "wire wire"
Subject: One-Off Shows Recorded?
To: digest@garynumanfan.nu
Hi everyone-
I'm looking for any recordings that anyone may have of the
Numan "one-off" shows he's done since the end of the Exile
tour.
I have TONS of shows available for trade.
So please contact me.
Vince A
outland91@hotmail.com
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 06:54:44 -0500
From: Brad LaVoise
Subject: Radio Heart - MTV2
To: Numan Digest
While flipping through the channels last night ( 4/24/00 ) I landed on
MTV2.
Can you guess what video they were playing?
Yes, they were playing the Radio Heart song video. Was in shock as it
wasn't CARS, actually had to call my wife into
the room to confirm that was actually Numan that I was seeing.
Unfortunately I caught the video in the middle, but
at the end it credited the song to Gary Numan. When I guess it should
have said Radio Heart featuring Gary Numan.
Did anyone else happen to see this or we're we just hallucinating?
Maybe the climate is changing for Numan, am looking forward to maybe
seeing other video's that he made.
Mind you I won't be holding my breathe, but they did play something
other than CARS.
Brad
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