Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves

run lazy Spanish Bums

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19290473

Yep 25% unemployment rate 50% among 16 to 25 years old. Spanish graduates working at hotels all over Europe. 65 billions of cuts to pay German and French banks. I don't know of any person in Spain that would say not to a job just now doing anything and you think they are lazy. Just keep an eye on Spain this summer swillhtf mate. We would not just roll over trust me.

Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves

will be a fun summer, I mean just look what the plan is? fuck the working class in the ass and ask for understanding :D yeah fuck, let the banks fail and let the rich sucker go down. As a German I want it to happen even if it means german banks are going down. I mean there are NO such things as "GERMAN" or a "spanish" Bank they are above the people they are international Banksters stealing from all of us.

Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves

run lazy Spanish Bums

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19290473

Yep 25% unemployment rate 50% among 16 to 25 years old. Spanish graduates working at hotels all over Europe. 65 billions of cuts to pay German and French banks. I don't know of any person in Spain that would say not to a job just now doing anything and you think they are lazy. Just keep an eye on Spain this summer swillhtf mate. We would not just roll over trust me.

Quoting: monfra

It's time for you Julios to realize that you're not worth what you cost. It's high time the Krauts teach you about economics 101.

Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves

will be a fun summer, I mean just look what the plan is? fuck the working class in the ass and ask for understanding :D yeah fuck, let the banks fail and let the rich sucker go down. As a German I want it to happen even if it means german banks are going down. I mean there are NO such things as "GERMAN" or a "spanish" Bank they are above the people they are international Banksters stealing from all of us.

Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves

run lazy Spanish Bums

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19290473

Yep 25% unemployment rate 50% among 16 to 25 years old. Spanish graduates working at hotels all over Europe. 65 billions of cuts to pay German and French banks. I don't know of any person in Spain that would say not to a job just now doing anything and you think they are lazy. Just keep an eye on Spain this summer swillhtf mate. We would not just roll over trust me.

Quoting: monfra

It's time for you Julios to realize that you're not worth what you cost. It's high time the Krauts teach you about economics 101.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911

Spain is the 5th biggest economy in Europe if Spain goes the Euro goes. If the Euro goes then Germany will have to go back to the Deutsche Mark which will be higher than the British pound therefore bye bye export economy. The only reason Germany has been doing so well the last decade is due to the fact that the Euro is very cheap compared to the level the Deutsche Mark would have been, fueling the sale of German products abroad.

Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves

Fuck the Spaniards. They live in the XIX century and only export olive oil and jamon.Smoke like pigs, dress in black.

Get rid of your elephant hunting king, bunch of slaves !

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19498999

That is what this protests are all about, we are tired of being slaves. How are things in Brasil spending money preparing olympics and world cup while the kids are dying in the favelas? Remember this Spain hosted the world cup in 82 and barcelona the olympic games in 92. We are still paying for it so good luck,

Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves

run lazy Spanish Bums

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19290473

Yep 25% unemployment rate 50% among 16 to 25 years old. Spanish graduates working at hotels all over Europe. 65 billions of cuts to pay German and French banks. I don't know of any person in Spain that would say not to a job just now doing anything and you think they are lazy. Just keep an eye on Spain this summer swillhtf mate. We would not just roll over trust me.

Quoting: monfra

It's time for you Julios to realize that you're not worth what you cost. It's high time the Krauts teach you about economics 101.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911

Spain is the 5th biggest economy in Europe if Spain goes the Euro goes. If the Euro goes then Germany will have to go back to the Deutsche Mark which will be higher than the British pound therefore bye bye export economy. The only reason Germany has been doing so well the last decade is due to the fact that the Euro is very cheap compared to the level the Deutsche Mark would have been, fueling the sale of German products abroad.

Quoting: monfra

Try to sell it however you want. The bottom line is, Spain is NOT good for the debt they already have. The well is running dry. It's time for the Julios to cut back to the point their lives are sustainable.

They're 30 years behind working two and a half days a week to catch up. There is NO WAY the euro is going to work with so many freeloading countries (PIIGS).

Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves

run lazy Spanish Bums

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19290473

Yep 25% unemployment rate 50% among 16 to 25 years old. Spanish graduates working at hotels all over Europe. 65 billions of cuts to pay German and French banks. I don't know of any person in Spain that would say not to a job just now doing anything and you think they are lazy. Just keep an eye on Spain this summer swillhtf mate. We would not just roll over trust me.

Quoting: monfra

It's time for you Julios to realize that you're not worth what you cost. It's high time the Krauts teach you about economics 101.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911

Spain is the 5th biggest economy in Europe if Spain goes the Euro goes. If the Euro goes then Germany will have to go back to the Deutsche Mark which will be higher than the British pound therefore bye bye export economy. The only reason Germany has been doing so well the last decade is due to the fact that the Euro is very cheap compared to the level the Deutsche Mark would have been, fueling the sale of German products abroad.

Quoting: monfra

excuse my english, anyways:

This is what the media is telling everyone but this is not fully correct. during the euro we (Germany) had to reduce production costs over 20% ("real devaluation") to be compatative as we have had a "mass unemploiment right after euro introduction. (south eurp increased price lvl 30%)

We have done it with shitty paid jobs and "Agenda 2010" and more crap. just imagine we have 7 million people working 400 € jobs (montly income) and millions more working 45h a week (like me) earning after tax 900€ most had not even inflation adjustment for a decade!

we NEVER had an export surplus!! we had an import deficide! we had the "Red Light" of worst investment all over europ. Yeah "People" say we are productive but in real we are just bending over and worked like slaves with the majority of people getting sucked dry.

at the moment "germany" is doing "well" because the money flow is going to germany on a massive scale (due to crisis) and it stimulates some! investment.

I have enough of seeing my ill father working 12h a day and getting more depressed each day.

Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves

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Yep 25% unemployment rate 50% among 16 to 25 years old. Spanish graduates working at hotels all over Europe. 65 billions of cuts to pay German and French banks. I don't know of any person in Spain that would say not to a job just now doing anything and you think they are lazy. Just keep an eye on Spain this summer swillhtf mate. We would not just roll over trust me.

Quoting: monfra

It's time for you Julios to realize that you're not worth what you cost. It's high time the Krauts teach you about economics 101.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911

Spain is the 5th biggest economy in Europe if Spain goes the Euro goes. If the Euro goes then Germany will have to go back to the Deutsche Mark which will be higher than the British pound therefore bye bye export economy. The only reason Germany has been doing so well the last decade is due to the fact that the Euro is very cheap compared to the level the Deutsche Mark would have been, fueling the sale of German products abroad.

Quoting: monfra

Try to sell it however you want. The bottom line is, Spain is NOT good for the debt they already have. The well is running dry. It's time for the Julios to cut back to the point their lives are sustainable.

They're 30 years behind working two and a half days a week to catch up. There is NO WAY the euro is going to work with so many freeloading countries (PIIGS).

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911

good point. if europeans worked more like americans do then maybe you guys wouldnt have such a mess. then again if americans worked more like say... china.. then we wouldnt have our mess either hehe

Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves

This is what happens when the socialists run out of other people's money. All these Spaniards got used to not working and getting paid anyway. Margret Thatcher hit the nail right on the head when she said "The trouble with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money". Spain ran out of other people's money. Now they have to adjust to working for a living. It is unlikely that they will be any more successful at that than the Greeks have been. More likely, they will follow the Greeks down the path of begging for hand-outs.

Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst."America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe

Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves

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Yep 25% unemployment rate 50% among 16 to 25 years old. Spanish graduates working at hotels all over Europe. 65 billions of cuts to pay German and French banks. I don't know of any person in Spain that would say not to a job just now doing anything and you think they are lazy. Just keep an eye on Spain this summer swillhtf mate. We would not just roll over trust me.

Quoting: monfra

It's time for you Julios to realize that you're not worth what you cost. It's high time the Krauts teach you about economics 101.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911

Spain is the 5th biggest economy in Europe if Spain goes the Euro goes. If the Euro goes then Germany will have to go back to the Deutsche Mark which will be higher than the British pound therefore bye bye export economy. The only reason Germany has been doing so well the last decade is due to the fact that the Euro is very cheap compared to the level the Deutsche Mark would have been, fueling the sale of German products abroad.

Quoting: monfra

Try to sell it however you want. The bottom line is, Spain is NOT good for the debt they already have. The well is running dry. It's time for the Julios to cut back to the point their lives are sustainable.

They're 30 years behind working two and a half days a week to catch up. There is NO WAY the euro is going to work with so many freeloading countries (PIIGS).

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911

Spain has the longest working week in the European Union. Has a deficit on proportion of its GDP smaller than the UK France and Germany but when it goes to the markets to raise capital they have to pay over 6% interest while these countries are paying nearly 0%. Why is that I ask? Don't you realize that the markets have no loyalties towards a nation, they are making a shed load on Spain now like they did with Greece, Portugal and Ireland before. Spain has no problem to raise all the capital it wants at every auction just have to pay through the nose for it. If it really was broke and could not afford to pay the markets would not be buying any of its debt period.Funnily the Spanish banks own by corporations not by spaniards or the spanish state have a hole of 65 billion euros. Today the government announces cuts worth 65 billion euros so europe gives the banks money and the spanish government takes it from ordinary spaniards.This is not a war between different countries is becoming a war between the markets helped by corrupt politicians and the people.The ptb now how to play the ignorant masses and is very easy to divide and conquer. Oh the Germans are just making money, oh the Spanish are lazy bums, oh the greeks lived like kings all this years, oh the Irish thought they were the celtic tiger b ut they are only pussycats. They are just manipulating hearts and minds while they make a massive profit. In the end of the day the elites of all this countries are quite happy they keep doing what they have been doing always privatize the benefits and nationalizing the losses while people like you blame other poor bastard in another country.

Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves

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Yep 25% unemployment rate 50% among 16 to 25 years old. Spanish graduates working at hotels all over Europe. 65 billions of cuts to pay German and French banks. I don't know of any person in Spain that would say not to a job just now doing anything and you think they are lazy. Just keep an eye on Spain this summer swillhtf mate. We would not just roll over trust me.

Quoting: monfra

It's time for you Julios to realize that you're not worth what you cost. It's high time the Krauts teach you about economics 101.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911

Spain is the 5th biggest economy in Europe if Spain goes the Euro goes. If the Euro goes then Germany will have to go back to the Deutsche Mark which will be higher than the British pound therefore bye bye export economy. The only reason Germany has been doing so well the last decade is due to the fact that the Euro is very cheap compared to the level the Deutsche Mark would have been, fueling the sale of German products abroad.

Quoting: monfra

excuse my english, anyways:

This is what the media is telling everyone but this is not fully correct. during the euro we (Germany) had to reduce production costs over 20% ("real devaluation") to be compatative as we have had a "mass unemploiment right after euro introduction. (south eurp increased price lvl 30%)

We have done it with shitty paid jobs and "Agenda 2010" and more crap. just imagine we have 7 million people working 400 € jobs (montly income) and millions more working 45h a week (like me) earning after tax 900€ most had not even inflation adjustment for a decade!

we NEVER had an export surplus!! we had an import deficide! we had the "Red Light" of worst investment all over europ. Yeah "People" say we are productive but in real we are just bending over and worked like slaves with the majority of people getting sucked dry.

at the moment "germany" is doing "well" because the money flow is going to germany on a massive scale (due to crisis) and it stimulates some! investment.

I have enough of seeing my ill father working 12h a day and getting more depressed each day.

THE DAY OF RECKONING WILL SOON BE!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19560013

More fool you guys if things are as bad you said why is Berlin not in flames? You should take a leaf of the spanish book and stop being slaves. This fight has to be against the tyrants that exploit us, not among poorly paid workers not matter what country they are from.

Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves

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It's time for you Julios to realize that you're not worth what you cost. It's high time the Krauts teach you about economics 101.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911

Spain is the 5th biggest economy in Europe if Spain goes the Euro goes. If the Euro goes then Germany will have to go back to the Deutsche Mark which will be higher than the British pound therefore bye bye export economy. The only reason Germany has been doing so well the last decade is due to the fact that the Euro is very cheap compared to the level the Deutsche Mark would have been, fueling the sale of German products abroad.

Quoting: monfra

Try to sell it however you want. The bottom line is, Spain is NOT good for the debt they already have. The well is running dry. It's time for the Julios to cut back to the point their lives are sustainable.

They're 30 years behind working two and a half days a week to catch up. There is NO WAY the euro is going to work with so many freeloading countries (PIIGS).

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911

Spain has the longest working week in the European Union. Has a deficit on proportion of its GDP smaller than the UK France and Germany but when it goes to the markets to raise capital they have to pay over 6% interest while these countries are paying nearly 0%. Why is that I ask? Don't you realize that the markets have no loyalties towards a nation, they are making a shed load on Spain now like they did with Greece, Portugal and Ireland before. Spain has no problem to raise all the capital it wants at every auction just have to pay through the nose for it. If it really was broke and could not afford to pay the markets would not be buying any of its debt period.Funnily the Spanish banks own by corporations not by spaniards or the spanish state have a hole of 65 billion euros. Today the government announces cuts worth 65 billion euros so europe gives the banks money and the spanish government takes it from ordinary spaniards.This is not a war between different countries is becoming a war between the markets helped by corrupt politicians and the people.The ptb now how to play the ignorant masses and is very easy to divide and conquer. Oh the Germans are just making money, oh the Spanish are lazy bums, oh the greeks lived like kings all this years, oh the Irish thought they were the celtic tiger b ut they are only pussycats. They are just manipulating hearts and minds while they make a massive profit. In the end of the day the elites of all this countries are quite happy they keep doing what they have been doing always privatize the benefits and nationalizing the losses while people like you blame other poor bastard in another country.

Re: Madrid in flames. Indignant Spaniards come out in defense of themselves

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Yep 25% unemployment rate 50% among 16 to 25 years old. Spanish graduates working at hotels all over Europe. 65 billions of cuts to pay German and French banks. I don't know of any person in Spain that would say not to a job just now doing anything and you think they are lazy. Just keep an eye on Spain this summer swillhtf mate. We would not just roll over trust me.

Quoting: monfra

It's time for you Julios to realize that you're not worth what you cost. It's high time the Krauts teach you about economics 101.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19550911

Spain is the 5th biggest economy in Europe if Spain goes the Euro goes. If the Euro goes then Germany will have to go back to the Deutsche Mark which will be higher than the British pound therefore bye bye export economy. The only reason Germany has been doing so well the last decade is due to the fact that the Euro is very cheap compared to the level the Deutsche Mark would have been, fueling the sale of German products abroad.

Quoting: monfra

excuse my english, anyways:

This is what the media is telling everyone but this is not fully correct. during the euro we (Germany) had to reduce production costs over 20% ("real devaluation") to be compatative as we have had a "mass unemploiment right after euro introduction. (south eurp increased price lvl 30%)

We have done it with shitty paid jobs and "Agenda 2010" and more crap. just imagine we have 7 million people working 400 € jobs (montly income) and millions more working 45h a week (like me) earning after tax 900€ most had not even inflation adjustment for a decade!

we NEVER had an export surplus!! we had an import deficide! we had the "Red Light" of worst investment all over europ. Yeah "People" say we are productive but in real we are just bending over and worked like slaves with the majority of people getting sucked dry.

at the moment "germany" is doing "well" because the money flow is going to germany on a massive scale (due to crisis) and it stimulates some! investment.

I have enough of seeing my ill father working 12h a day and getting more depressed each day.

THE DAY OF RECKONING WILL SOON BE!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19560013

I from Poland. I get more in state benefits here in a lovely UK than u get paid! And I no have to work!!