Saturday, July 17, 2010

Linoge Uncovers a Bogus DGU

...if a criminal already has a gun out and pointed at you, there is absolutely nothing you can do – nothing at all – to change the outcome of the situation, so you might as well give the criminal what he wants. And that is why this particular news story is obviously a complete and utter fabrication.

To give credit where credit is due, at least Linoge isn't one of those Lott/Kleck types who count every possible incident in order to reach their incredible numbers. But the certainty with which Linoge rejects this one seems weird.

Here's my comment, which may not be published over there since he's banned me like so many of the other pro-freedom and pro-rights gun bloggers.

I'm glad you said we don't really know what transpired. Aren't you the one who often points out how stupid some criminals are. Maybe the guy allowed his gun to be pushed to the side while the ATM guy pulled his.

About disarming the populace, we'd be much better off in my opinion. Where do you think the two guns in this story came from? Answer: the same place.They both started out as legally owned firearms. The sloppiness or stupidity or criminality of some gun owner with a clean record accounts for one of them ending up in the hands of a robber.

So, yes the fewer guns, the better.

What's your opinion? Do you think pro-gun folks purposely leave out the inconvenient fact that unlike illegal drugs, guns all start out legally owned? Shouldn't the legal gun owners take some responsibility for this, start doing the right thing, stop denying the obvious connection between themselves and the criminals who are using their guns?

Shouldn't the legal gun owners take some responsibility for this, start doing the right thing, stop denying the obvious connection between themselves and the criminals who are using their guns?

That's a No Shit Sherlock. The Crux of the Biscuit. How many cars end up just being given away with no pink slip or notification to the DMV? Most people fill out the paperwork unless they are extremely careless.

Less guns in the hands of criminals? Seems possible to me. Less American guns in Mexico? That's an issue of international diplomacy. It's time to figure this out and work together.

That's an interesting insight bro. If the Mexican government had to buy or subsidize the manufacturing of their own weapons, they might be so careless in their inventory.

The truth likes somewhere not far away. But I wouldn't bother googling it. I still believe a lot of guns cross the border illegally. But really, how the fuck would I know?

Still, the NRA gun lobbyists are standing in the way. My understanding is that the majority of U.S. foreign aid in totality is and has been since the 1960s weaponry in some form of other. If other countries have enemies, they can devote their own resources into combatting them. Particularly Israel. Sell some oranges. Foreign aid from the U.S. should be in the form of agricultural and economic assistance.

Flying Junior, Thanks for the comments. You made me think about my recent time in the States. I watched Fox News a lot and found it amazing that they continually talked about the Gulf Oil Spill and almost never mentioned the War in Afghanistan, which had its bloodiest month recently.

Then I found the same thing on CNBC or MNBC or whatever it is.

Does it mean the whole country is being controlled by the war-mongering Powers behind the scenes, the ones who are pulling Obama's strings?

About this post, Linoge informed me that I indeed missed his sarcasm. He wasn't questioning the validity of the DGU after all. The funny part is that after admitting my mistake, he said I was a "liar." My lie was in saying that he'd found the story "suspicious."

Linoge is a tough character to deal with. As an opponent in an argument, he refuses to recognize the difference between a mistak - misreading and a lie.