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Lucky Obama

October 2008: McCain finally looks poised to lead in the polls, the market collapses and cool, calm, collected, Ivy League educated Obama vaults forward to victory. April 2009: It starts to look as if both the American public and Congress may be getting leery about Obama’s proposal to nationalize healthcare (i.e., have the government take control of America’s medical system) and the swine flu hits. Obama has a plan: “Hey, kids! Let’s nationalize healthcare!”

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Does he ALWAYS look down his nose at us…..or is it just when I’m watching him that it happens.

I can’t bear to see him…..or to hear him…..or increasingly, to think about him…..and a nation of fools who elected this boob!

kali

Earl, that’s the teleprompter gaze–

Anyway, I wonder who exactly is saying we don’t need research? I’ve never met the wild-eyed right-wing radical who thinks we shouldn’t do medical research. Or is he implying that only research paid for–and directed by–government is worthwhile?

Never let a good crisis go to waste–

Mike Devx

Obama does not care one way or another about scientific progress per se. He cares only that the national government exerts firm control on the direction that it takes.

For the national government to seize that control, it must have a compelling reason to step in. The reason will always be the same: American industry is failing to perform its role within the free market system.

So Obama will “invest” 3% of the GDP in science. That’s your tax money and mine. Where will all this additional tax money come from, you might ask them? Their answer: Who cares? When you’re drowning in an ocean of debt, does it matter if that ocean is just a little bigger?

I take it back – it’s not your tax money and mine. It’s your childrens’ tax money, or your grandchildrens’. At the rate we’re burning through it, we’ll be “begatting” like Exodus to identify the end of the generational debt we’re creating.

The only question with that 3% is, will it be used to set up separate “National Science Institutes”? Or, having been collected via taxes, will it be redistributed to science centers in universities and industries… with strings attached?

The strings will definitely be attached! Because the entire goal is to control the direction of scientific investigation. No Statist worth his salt would simply give the money away. Control… power… that’s the name of the game.

At such a difficult moment, there are those who say we cannot afford to invest in science, that support for research is somehow a luxury at moments defined by necessities. I fundamentally disagree. Science is more essential for our prosperity, our security, our health, our environment, and our quality of life than it has ever been before.

Who says we shouldn’t invest? Ah, but when Obama says the word “invest”, he always means: redistribute your tax money. What a perversion of the English language.

And if there was ever a day that reminded us of our shared stake in science and research, it’s today. We are closely monitoring the emerging cases of swine flu in the United States. […] But one thing is clear — our capacity to deal with a public health challenge of this sort rests heavily on the work of our scientific and medical community. And this is one more example of why we can’t allow our nation to fall behind. Unfortunately, that’s exactly what’s happened.

In what way does the emergence of swine flu indicate a failure within the American system of scientific investigation? I await the answer.

A half century ago, this nation made a commitment to lead the world in scientific and technological innovation; to invest in education, in research, in engineering; to set a goal of reaching space and engaging every citizen in that historic mission. That was the high water mark of America’s investment in research and development. And since then our investments have steadily declined as a share of our national income. […] We will not just meet, but we will exceed the level achieved at the height of the space race, through policies that invest in basic and applied research, create new incentives for private innovation, promote breakthroughs in energy and medicine, and improve education in math and science.

I included the above paragraph so you can play one of the Obama Games: count the number of times the word “invest” appears. Then substitute “redistribute your tax money” for the word “invest”.

Actually I had another reason for including the above paragraph: Because it is a lead-in to this paragraph:

Just think what this will allow us to accomplish: solar cells as cheap as paint; green buildings that produce all the energy they consume; learning software as effective as a personal tutor; prosthetics so advanced that you could play the piano again; an expansion of the frontiers of human knowledge about ourselves and world the around us.

Ah, yes, alternative energy and the Big Greenie Movement. I thought Obama had already passed the debt funding for that one? Throw in an education reference and one other one to lessen the obvious focus on alternative energy.

That’s how we will ensure that our children and their children will look back on this generation’s work as that which defined the progress and delivered the prosperity of the 21st century.

Sorry, Bammie Baby. The kids will be too busy working off your generational debt, in our devastated country – with all the declined standards that that implies, to reflect upon your little failed “investment” program.

Most of the rest is a mind-numbing listing of national government directives to control the direction of scientific investigation. But one more little ditty:

America’s young people will rise to the challenge if given the opportunity –- if called upon to join a cause larger than themselves. We’ve got evidence. You know, the average age in NASA’s mission control during the Apollo 17 mission was just 26. I know that young people today are just as ready to tackle the grand challenges of this century.

Did you catch his little magic trick there? Our young people are failing right now, in the same way that industry and our universities are failing, because they’ve got no “cause larger than themselves” to join. There isn’t anything wrong with our universities, nor our young people 18-or-older. The problems in our science education sit in third- thru tenth- grade. In what way did those 26-year-old NASA scientists require an Obama-like program so they could serve a cause “larger than themselves”? They loved moon science, not an Obama investment program designed to create a better windmill. It’s not the program – it’s the love of a science that they individually chose to pursue out of excitement. Obama will not allow them to pursue what excites them. They will have to pursue what Obama likes.

Enough. Apologies if this was boring. But the man frustrates me no end, with his endless litany of programs and control that inevitably lead, down the road, to failure. And his fake endless litanies of our so-called “current failures” that he used to justify seizing control and power. It’s so hard to take.

>>…we’ll be “begatting” like Exodus to identify the end of the generational debt we’re creating.>>

You forget…we’re also giving societal approval to abortions. There go those begats… right down the tube, so to speak..!

Of course, if there are no grandchildren, like that liberal who was here last week, I guess it doesn’t matter if the world ends when you owe a whole bunch of money. That was his point, wasn’t it? Climate change was going to destroy the world so it didn’t matter if we ran up untold amounts of debt? No one would be around to collect? Wow. I’m still amazed…!

http://OgBlog.net Earl

Wasn’t it James Watt who was accused of saying that trashing the environment didn’t matter because the Lord was coming soon and we wouldn’t have to worry about the negative consequences? (I don’t think he ever said this, but that was the story – used to bash him, any other traditional Christians available, and his political allies.)

Anyhow, can someone explain the difference between that and the argument suek is describing above? Looks like precisely the same one….which may be why the left is denouncing the person who said that…..Oh Wait!

suek

>>”If all else fails, there’s always Save-mor Vodka!”>>

Just because _you_ don’t drink…!

So…back out in the garden with you. Learn how to grow potatoes. Mucho potatoes. What you don’t eat, you use to make vodka – for the others!

Have you thought about a totally self-sufficient garden? My tomatoes are in, and I expect to have more than we’ll eat this summer. I could can the excess, but much as I love Italian, I suspect that man cannot live by tomatoes alone. Most of the garden stuff we grow is summer friendly. I try to think about a garden that would produce enough for the year – that means canning, freezing, drying…what would I need to grow? How much? how to prepare? how to preserve?

How did people 150 years ago manage?? And we think we’re so advanced!!

expat

Mike,

You are right on target about scientists having to do what excites them and they have to have the persistence to work incredibly long hours at something few others understand. I would love to know how many science courses Obama himself took. He seems to prefer spending his evenings with campaign contributers and the politically connected to working in the lab. I can hear him now saying how bored he is by viruses. They are just like suburbanites and rural legislators.

suek: I’ll be living and gardening in Bend, OR…..growing season of about six weeks, I think. And it’s high desert, so water is expensive, I suspect. Haven’t moved yet, but that’s what I’m gleaning.

I don’t expect the descent into the abyss right away, so I’ve got some time to get up to speed. Root vegetables do well, I hear, and also leaves. So, potatoes and sauerkraut, maybe? We’ll see.

I’m planning on chickens, for sure. And we’re good at preserving things so I’ll have applesauce and other fruit canned, plus lots of dried stuff bought cheap in the summer….tomatoes and other veges are easy and good. The root cellar will be important, and I’m already thinking about how to get the kind of greenhouse I want.

I was never a Boy Scout, but I subscribed to Boy’s Life for years.
“Be Prepared”

P.S. One thing I *DO* expect, and that’s the means testing of S.S. Since I denied myself for years in order to build up some savings for retirement, I expect that the promise of S.S. support is going to be reduced or removed at some point. Can’t reform the system in order to make it viable — oh no, just take it away from “the rich”, including teachers who never made $60,000.00 in any year of their career. Gah!

http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/ Ymarsakar

Just think what this will allow us to accomplish: solar cells as cheap as paint; green buildings that produce all the energy they consume

I see con men are still selling the perpetual motion machine, the snake oil, the panacea of our age. And successfully so too!

The reason why there were so many NIgerian scams and offshoots from Nigeria in South America, Britain, etc, is because Americans have a lot of money and it doesn’t take a lot to extract that money from the rich and give it to the poor. Given that Nigerians live on a few hundred dollars per year, mostly, that means everybody in the US is rich. Hence why the scams are so popular. It is easy money.

And Obama has figured out how to cash it in, jackpot style.

We all heard about Madoff and people getting scammed. Some wondered, some were surprised, others were cynical. Well, it just so happens that the most “cynical” people around, people like Oz, Leftists, “Republicans are just like Democrats tropesyites”, and “Democrats are true to their principles while Republicans are hypocrite” followers, are the most easily duped in the grand scheme of things.

The idiots of America are easily duped by the “get rich for nothing” scheme. Why? Cause that is what idiots are for. To enrich and guarantee success for those with the smarts.

People get scammed cause they want to get scammed. It’s do as the monkey does, for the great majority of human apes. Do what you are told, emulate your betters, keep your head down, pass off the sh*t on you from high down to those below you.

A perpetual motion machine that gives out the same amount of work as the energy put in it? Surefire snake oil. Impossible to exist. But possible for the Obamamites, the dupes, the cult followers, and the Black Panther brigade.

Oh, it is, it is. If you say otherwise, they will smash your face in. Be assured.

There is such a thing as entropy and it will put to an end man’s greatest achievement. Even a delusional Greek wannabe god like Obama must be humble in the face of the eternal entropy. Entropy will not allow the 100% direction conversion of one resource or energy into another resource or energy. Entropy will take its cut, and no matter how black, hip, cool, charismatic, or omnipotently retarded Obama is, he cannot stop entropy and the decay that is the result of time.

kali

He forgot pantyhose that don’t ladder, cars that run on water, calorie-free chocolate

suek

expat…

You’ve got a _cellar_??? California don’t got no cellars!

Actually, I’ve got probably enough books to teach me what I need to know…but when you think about it, it requires a complete change in eating habits, a much larger garden than I enjoy – I mean…food for the year means real _work_! – in addition to the practical aspects of food preservation. When I start thinking about all that stuff, my mind kind of hits a wall…

expat

suek,

I don’t have a cellar now, but when I was a kid we had a root cellar for potatoes and apples under the front porch. A neighbor had an ever classier one in the yard: It was like a big mound of dirt with a narrow pathway leading to the door.

We did a lot of canning and freezing. It was always best when some relatives got together to do beans or corn. It is a lot of work, and today we don’t have the social support that used to ease the drudgery. My grandfather’s butchering day was Thanksgiving, and we probably had 2 to 3 dozen helpers. An aunt had a big apple butter day when we cooked the apples in an enormous copper kettle over a wood fire outside. We didn’t grow everything ourselves. We got some things by the bushel from local farmers when their harvest came in. Doing things together gave the women some time to gossip and the kids time to get into mischief.

It’s a lot different when you have to do it alone for a small family. And yes, the menues were more limited. On the other hand, when you got surprise guests, you just went to the basement for a couple of quarts of whatever to stretch the meal.

suek

>>And yes, the menus were more limited.>>

I gave up the traditional Thanksgiving dinner in 2000. Figured that it was time for the kids to establish their own traditions – mine having been derived from New England, and nobody else in the family is now from that area. I’m the migrant. I still do it, actually – I just don’t invite everybody. We go to my son’s for Thanksgiving dinner, and his wife obliges us by having turkey – and other stuff. I make the gravy – she doesn’t know how. (How can anybody not know how to make gravy???) Every year, the kids got the lecture on why we eat the funny stuff I cook for Thanksgiving and Christmas. You know…root cellar stuff. Mashed potatoes, squash (butternut), rutabagas (turnips that store), and onions. Pumpkin pie and mincemeat, of course. And when my #3 son says “no peas or beans?” The answer is “no”…in November in New England, the frost has killed all those terrific summer season veggies. “No salad?” “Nope.” It’s funny…my Mom and Dad moved out here for my Dad’s last assignment, and stayed. After my Mom died, he remarried, and his new spouse was a California girl. Didn’t do the New England thing. No idea how to cook winter squash or rutabagas. Dad would ask me to make extra and bring him some…old habits die hard! He just didn’t feel it was the holidays without the traditional food.

We live in a wonderful time. The fresh foods we have available year round…fantastic.

Danny Lemieux

Suek – I wonder if our children will someday look back and be able to realize just how good they had it before the socialist revolution? A bit like the Cubans who were teenagers when Castro took power.

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