THE DEAN - Personally, I don't think jet fuel burns hot enough to take down a building like that.

Kerosene gets pretty hot bro.

Not hot enough to burn through a terrorist passport.

As far as I know, plastic burns at a much lower temperature.

The coincidence theorists have an answer for that, I don't recall what it is off-hand, but they believe it.

Finding a passport belonging to one of the terrorists certainly seems unlikely (although other similar items belonging to other passengers were found - bank card, driver's licence, etc).

Other than that it was unlikely what do you make of this? If it was faked/planted what purpose was it intended to serve? The evidence that Suqami was on the plane is the flight manifest - not the passport. From the perspective of the conventional theory it just looks odd and doesn't seem to serve any purpose.

Finding a passport belonging to one of the terrorists certainly seems unlikely (although other similar items belonging to other passengers were found - bank card, driver's licence, etc).

It was found on a nearby street before the towers collapsed, despite the heat of the steel melting inferno. Yet the Plane's black boxes were never found. I agree that it certainly seems unlikely.

Other than that it was unlikely what do you make of this? If it was faked/planted what purpose was it intended to serve? The evidence that Suqami was on the plane is the flight manifest - not the passport. From the perspective of the conventional theory it just looks odd and doesn't seem to serve any purpose.

It does serve a purpose, when pulling a deception on such a massive scale, every little piece of additional evidence helps to validate the story. Being on a flight manifest, isn't proof that he was on the flight, it just means that he, or someone claiming to be him, checked in at the airport, finding his passport at the scene was used to show that he was.

THE DEAN - Personally, I don't think jet fuel burns hot enough to take down a building like that.

Kerosene gets pretty hot bro.

Not hot enough to burn through a terrorist passport.

As far as I know, plastic burns at a much lower temperature.

LOL!!!!

I always thought the passport thing was a huge steaming pile, I mean cmon they can't even find some body parts of people that died in the ensuing devastation but oops lookie here, one of the terrorists passports LOL.

BTW, was that ever confirmed as part of the official story or is that some "factoid" that's regurgitated by people on forums?

Some defenders of the official 9/11 story have claimed that the red-gray chips of thermitic material identified in the WTC dust by chemist Dr. Niels Harrit, Ph.D., Dr Steven Jones, Ph.D., and other scientists are simply remnants of the rust-proofing primer paint that was applied to the steel structure of the WTC skyscrapers during their construction. However, scientific evidence gathered by both the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) and Harrit’s team of scientists clearly shows that this claim is false, since the properties of the primer paint are strikingly different from those of the red-gray chips.First of all, several key ingredients of the primer paint are not present in the composition of the red-gray chips. According to NIST, the type of primer paint used on the WTC steel columns contains substantial levels of zinc, chromium, and magnesium. However, the X-ray Energy Dispersive Spectroscopy (XEDS) analysis of the red-gray chips performed by Harrit and others showed no significant amounts of zinc, chromium, or magnesium.

Based on this data alone, we can already conclude that the red-gray chips are not primer paint. Furthermore, there are other important differences that reinforce the fact that these two materials are not the same.

In one of the tests performed by Harrit and other scientists, a red-gray chip was soaked in methyl ethyl ketone (MEK), which is a paint solvent. While paint dissolves within a few hours upon immersion in this solvent, the red-gray chip did not dissolve, and remained in a hardened state after being soaked for 55 hours.

The thermal properties of the red-gray chips and primer paint are also highly dissimilar. Thermal analysis of the red-gray chips has shown that they ignite at approximately 430º C.

In contrast, tests on the primer paint performed by NIST and recorded in NIST NCSTAR 1-3C Appendix D (pages 440, 442) demonstrated that it can reach temperatures exceeding 650º C without burning. Since primer paint is primarily a ceramic material, it is chemically stable at temperatures up to 800º C.

In addition, the thermal tests on the red-gray chips revealed that when they are ignited at around 430º C, they create molten iron microspheres as a byproduct. Since iron does not melt until it reaches approximately 1538º C, this means a high-temperature chemical reaction occurred. This volatile reactivity makes this type of material extremely dangerous, disqualifying it from ever being used as primer paint.

Conversely, the documented chemical and thermal properties of the red-gray chips confirm that they are thermitic material. The chemical composition of these chips includes sizeable quantities of the key elements of thermite (iron, oxygen, and aluminum), and the high-temperature reactions that occurred when the chips were ignited verifies that they are indeed thermitic in nature.

This sophisticated incendiary material has been developed in the most advanced laboratories in the world, and is designed to blast through steel, a result that cannot be produced by jet fuel or office fires. An independent, comprehensive, fully resourced and unimpeachable investigation is long overdue to determine who placed this destructive material in the WTC skyscrapers and bring them to justice.

"In addition, the thermal tests on the red-gray chips revealed that when they are ignited at around 430º C, they create *molten iron microspheres* as a byproduct. Since iron does not melt until it reaches approximately *1538º C* (much hotter than jet fuel!!) this means a high-temperature chemical reaction occurred."

THE DEAN - Personally, I don't think jet fuel burns hot enough to take down a building like that.

Kerosene gets pretty hot bro.

Not hot enough to burn through a terrorist passport.

As far as I know, plastic burns at a much lower temperature.

LOL!!!!

I always thought the passport thing was a huge steaming pile, I mean cmon they can't even find some body parts of people that died in the ensuing devastation but oops lookie here, one of the terrorists passports LOL.

BTW, was that ever confirmed as part of the official story or is that some "factoid" that's regurgitated by people on forums?

Can't say for sure other than the FBI originally claimed to have found it in the vicinity somewhere(near the World Trade Centers).

"It does serve a purpose, when pulling a deception on such a massive scale, every little piece of additional evidence helps to validate the story. Being on a flight manifest, isn't proof that he was on the flight, it just means that he, or someone claiming to be him, checked in at the airport, finding his passport at the scene was used to show that he was."

'Was used to show that he was' by whom? Finding his passport at the scene just means (at best) that his passport was on the plane (possibly carried by someone else).

Whoever was doing quality control for the conspiracy obviously missed this one. If you want to show that specific people were on the flight just put them on the manifest (and ideally film them going through security, etc). Don't pretend that one of their passports survived but the black box didn't (prompting quips like they should make the black box out of the same material they make passports out of...)

Then again this is the group that created the largest conspiracy in history only to frame the wrong guy.

this week I randomly met someone who was in WTC-1 on 9-11, he worked for a Japanese bank around the 48-49th floor, he said there were multiple "construction" and "renovation" projects in both towers, and many Fire Exit signs were missing, removed, or "hard to see" because of the "projects"...

Larry Appleton - WTC Building #7, a 47-story high-rise not hit by an airplane, exhibited all the characteristics of classic controlled demolition with explosives:

Rapid onset of collapseSounds of explosions at ground floor – a second before the building's destructionSymmetrical "structural failure" – through the path of greatest resistance – at free-fall accelerationImploded, collapsing completely, and landed in its own footprintMassive volume of expanding pyroclastic-like cloudsExpert corroboration from the top European controlled demolition professionalForeknowledge of "collapse" by media, NYPD, FDNYIn the aftermath of WTC7's destruction, strong evidence of demolition using incendiary devices was discovered:

FEMA finds rapid oxidation and intergranular melting on structural steel samplesSeveral tons of molten metal reported by numerous highly qualified witnessesChemical signature of the incendiary thermite found in solidified molten metal, and dust samplesWTC7 exhibited none of the characteristics of destruction by fire:

Slow onset with large visible deformationsAsymmetrical collapse which follows the path of least resistance (laws of conservation of momentum would cause a falling, to the side most damaged by the fires)Evidence of fire temperatures capable of softening steelHigh-rise buildings with much larger, hotter, and longer lasting fires have never collapsed

Where is your degree??? All these people talking about controlled demolition don't have any idea of what they are talking about.

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