Yes I'll give you that. My initial outburst was biased because majority of the Detroit built cars lack the refinement. And I do agree that it has nothing to do with the actual workers, but it does have to do with the corporate philosophy and guidance so perhaps there is no problem with the 3er being built here.

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Originally Posted by Staszek

Tell that to all the Toyota owners who get there cars out of Kentucky and still constantly rank as some of the best built most reliable cars in the world.

Its not where the car is built (well maybe in China), it is how it is designed and the equipment used to build them.

GM makes crap because the cars were designed like junk, not because of the workers (sure they may be a bit slower).

Check the X3/Z4 boards those cars are pretty reliable, and definitely not less so then the German built 3 series.