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As a lifetime duck fan and graduate, Chips flip flopping has made this all the more sour. Instead of initially being happy for the guy like I was a few weeks back, I am now more pissed off then anything. But i guess this is just typical Chip fashion for the way to go out. Still have a ton of question marks for him at the next level but very excited to see how he does.

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I'll make one crazy prediction- even with Shady Mccoy being the main guy there, if Jahvid Best has finally gotten over his concussion issues the Eagles will try and bring him in. He fits Kelly's system perfectly

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Jamiroquai 2017 please.

Originally Posted by miscorrections

How is any of that ironic? On this board I absolutely expect terrible people to call other people terrible.

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I can see it. Kelly has great weapons to start with there. SHady, Machlin, jackson, ect. He just needs to get himself an o line and a qb..... Doesnt look like the qb will happen in this draft class though

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No way the Eagles bring in Best while they still have Bryce Brown. Vick is still probably gone and I'm guessing they'll stick with Foles until they come across something better or groom a QB they draft this year.

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Originally Posted by TomAz

Bears fired Lovie Smith to hire Marc Trestman? oh Tommy I'm so sorry.

Honestly, I don't see how anybody can judge a coaching hire like they would a player signing or something like that. There are too many intricacies that go into coaching for me to judge without having interviewed the guy myself. We'll just have to see how it works out.

Originally Posted by RandyInHeaven

Devin - how does it feel to know that there are still more women in the world that would fuck me at this very moment than would fuck you?

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You mean when they won their first playoff game ever after the move to Arizona?

Being a coordinator is different than being a head coach. And that was 15 years ago. Maybe he's a good manager. Maybe these players will respond to him. There are so many other variables other than "Oh, I didn't like him as an offensive coordinator in the 90's. He won't be successful." I don't think we can judge a head-coaching hire before the guy ever coaches a game.

Originally Posted by RandyInHeaven

Devin - how does it feel to know that there are still more women in the world that would fuck me at this very moment than would fuck you?

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Well, what else do we have to judge him on? Dude couldn't hold a job for more than a few years. 49ers OC, then Cardinals OC, then Raiders OC, then "spent a year with the Dolphins", then NC State OC, then to Canada. He did manage to keep a job for 5 years in the CFL, there is that. Congratulations.

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Originally Posted by bobert

The offense looked pretty great to me with Favre under center. Failing to win with TJax is not necessarily a sign of incompetence.

true. He was actually guilty by association with Brad Childress when Childress coached them. A lot of people think that Bevell never had play-calling duties in the time he was here as well. So he does have some excuses. Its just between being linked to Childress (who every Viking fan pretty much hated), and the fact that Leslie Frazier wasted no time getting rid of him once he became coach, no Viking fan thinks much of his ability.

But you're right he didn't have a qb most of the time he was here, and maybe he's just smarter and savvier in the years since leavinig Minnesota. But I'd still laugh if he gets a head coaching gig anywhere.

If y'all fresh to death, then I'm deceased... -Kanye West
Jamiroquai 2017 please.

Originally Posted by miscorrections

How is any of that ironic? On this board I absolutely expect terrible people to call other people terrible.

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Apparently Horton had a 'heated exchange' with Steve Keim after being told Arians had been hired, and that got him fired.

edit: no he's not been fired but he is demanding to be let out of his contract, he is seriously pissed he didn't get the gig.

I was one who really rooted for the Cards not to hire Horton as HC......now I'm disappointed he might be leaving. Whatever Horton did, he did it well. I hope Arians was on the phone all night, not celebrating and trying to convince Horton to stick around. Maybe an Assistant Head Coach position similar to Grimm?

“We've spent so much time judging what other people created that we've created very, very little of our own.”
― Chuck Palahniuk, Choke

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I wasn't rooting for them not to hire Horton so much as I was hoping that if they did hire him it would be because he was the right choice and not because they thought they had to. Horton was claiming he could deliver Norv Turner as OC and Mike Tice as OL coach, but who knows if that's true?

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Originally Posted by TomAz

I wasn't rooting for them not to hire Horton so much as I was hoping that if they did hire him it would be because he was the right choice and not because they thought they had to. Horton was claiming he could deliver Norv Turner as OC and Mike Tice as OL coach, but who knows if that's true?

I agree 100% that it was important for the FO to not feel forced into making him HC just to keep him.

I'm curious about this though.......ESPN claims the front office was worried that hiring Horton was a tough decision because " promoting Horton would have severely reduced the team's options for hiring an offensive staff."

Isn't this true for anybody they hire? It seems like the FO could have handled not hiring him a lot better. Though of course I don't know all the facts.

“We've spent so much time judging what other people created that we've created very, very little of our own.”
― Chuck Palahniuk, Choke