1750 (almost) all bikes

Hi!
After a hiatus, I'm reentering 40k, and to do so i chose "space mawines". The other day I saw on youtube a battle report where a guy had a bike army with land speeders... and a land raider. Intrigued, I started dabbling with armybuilder, and this is what I came up with:

The first list is absolutely brutal ,on paper at least. How it would fair in practice is debatable; Arguably its low on models, a lucky hit from a melta shot on your Land raider or a Vindicator blast on your bikers, and you'll be having a hard time from then on.

About the second list: Why not give Khan his bike? save your self a few point on your 2nd HQ captain. Is Khan supposed to ride with the terminators in the land raider to give them "furious charge" and "hit & run" ? If so I'd consider giving them lightning claws or scrapping the terminator all together and going with a bunch of Vanguards with diverse equipment (Storm shields x2, Relic blade, thunder hammer). Vanguards are more versatile and would complement Khan far better.

Overall i find your first list more promising, a few changes I'd make: Remove the regular land speeders, instead add some Land speeder storm with Multi-melta or Heavy flamer and scouts insides. Essentially Vulcan will compensate the low ballistic skill of the Storm, and will guarantee you a 1st turn melta or flamer shot. The scout sergeants can also be equipped with combi-Flamer/Melta for the same reason. Also giving the opportunity for a first turn charge and tie down/destroy valuable tanks (hitting the rear automatically will destroy Vindicators for sure!). If its not your cup of tea, I'd remove the regular Land speeders and add some scout bike: More or less the same reason, first turn strike, tie down enemy units until your bikes gets there, combi-weapon sergeant ...

Anyways , welcome back to the game. Killer list, hopes it works out for ya

Last edited by seismic; September 29th, 2009 at 05:23.

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The first list already got tested, against IG. It was an anihilation mission, with standard deployment. He got first turn and is shooting on said turn took out almost half of my tou soldiers. Still, the ones I had left were mora than enough to give me a comfortable vicory. I have still to test list nº 2.
Thanks for the valuable input!