Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

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re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

Originally Posted by APACHERAT

I have no problem with using the phrase "Kennedy klan."

You libs may live in a black and white world but your a minority.

Klan comes from the Greek word "kuklos" which means circle, as in a circle of friends or a band of brothers, the Kennedy klan, a circle of Kennedy supporters who protect the JFK legacy.

None of which is in any way relevant to why you used it. Congratz on being able to figure out how to use a dictionary though.

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re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

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Re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

President Barack Obama on Thursday ordered flags to fly at half-staff at the White House and public buildings, with the US in mourning over the death of "close friend" and anti-apartheid hero Nelson Mandela.

Obama's proclamation, which also extended to the White House, US foreign missions, military posts, naval stations and military vessels, was valid through sunset on Monday.

"Today, the United States has lost a close friend, South Africa has lost an incomparable liberator, and the world has lost an inspiration for freedom, justice, and human dignity -- Nelson Mandela is no longer with us, he belongs to the ages," he said in the document.

"Through his fierce dignity and unbending will to sacrifice his own freedom for the freedom of others, he transformed South Africa -- and moved the entire world.

For a Communist? Antithesis to Freedom and Liberty?

And nothing for Maggie Thatcher...nothing

I truly want to vomit.

Since this thread is about flying the flags at half-staff for Nelson Mandela, I'm sure that some people reading this might like to learn more about how and why he destroyed Apartheid in South Africa.

Re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

No big problem with Mandela and the flag at half staff. I mean, look at it this way; When Obama dies, they might fly the flags at half staff (hope not). Now, that would be a true slap in the face to those who stand for freedom and liberty.

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Re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

Originally Posted by Anthony60

No big problem with Mandela and the flag at half staff. I mean, look at it this way; When Obama dies, they might fly the flags at half staff (hope not). Now, that would be a true slap in the face to those who stand for freedom and liberty.

I'll just kick it off by saying that the USA could have done a lot more to speed up the end of Apartheid in South Africa.

Maybe the USA was too busy fighting Communism which some people saw as less of a problem than the mistreatment they were suffering from people in their own country.

Actually that's what America was doing at the time, fighting the Cold War and the NAC and it's war against the South African government was considered one of the Cold War proxy wars being fought in Africa at the time. Who trained the NAC ? The Soviets. Who armed the NAC ? Fidel Castro and Cuba.

Read the Reagan Diaries or other biographies on Reagan. As for Ronald Reagan in his personal diaries, he just said he didn't like Mandela.

During the 80's there were both Republicans and Democrats who opposed economic sanctions against South Africa because it would be like supporting the Soviet Union during the Cold War while we were fighting them at the same time.