If the Obama administration’s economic stimulus bill passes the Senate in its current form, seniors in the U.S. will face similar rationing. Defenders of the system say that individuals benefit in younger years and sacrifice later.

Elderly Hardest Hit

Daschle says health-care reform “will not be pain free.” Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them. That means the elderly will bear the brunt.

Medicare now pays for treatments deemed safe and effective. The stimulus bill would change that and apply a cost- effectiveness standard set by the Federal Council (464).

........so Pelosi finally figured out that Health care saving does not come form Abortions....but from cutting of Senior Citizens from care..........but why do I think they will let you vote ahead 12 yrs....and posthumously count your votes.......ala Al Frankken

If the Obama administration’s economic stimulus bill passes the Senate in its current form, seniors in the U.S. will face similar rationing. Defenders of the system say that individuals benefit in younger years and sacrifice later.

Elderly Hardest Hit

Daschle says health-care reform “will not be pain free.” Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them. That means the elderly will bear the brunt.

Medicare now pays for treatments deemed safe and effective. The stimulus bill would change that and apply a cost- effectiveness standard set by the Federal Council (464).

........so Pelosi finally figured out that Health care saving does not come form Abortions....but from cutting of Senior Citizens from care..........but why do I think they will let you vote ahead 12 yrs....and posthumously count your votes.......ala Al Frankken

If the Obama administration&#8217;s economic stimulus bill passes the Senate in its current form, seniors in the U.S. will face similar rationing. Defenders of the system say that individuals benefit in younger years and sacrifice later.

Elderly Hardest Hit

Daschle says health-care reform &#8220;will not be pain free.&#8221; Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them. That means the elderly will bear the brunt.

Medicare now pays for treatments deemed safe and effective. The stimulus bill would change that and apply a cost- effectiveness standard set by the Federal Council (464).

........so Pelosi finally figured out that Health care saving does not come form Abortions....but from cutting of Senior Citizens from care..........but why do I think they will let you vote ahead 12 yrs....and posthumously count your votes.......ala Al Frankken

so it's wrong for trying to live a full and long life? that would never had been passed if this had been passed to the voters, as most voters are Senior Citizens

Screw the elderly all they do is drain our tax dollars with all of their medications prescribed by doctors when most of the time they only need half of the medications and the others are for side effects of the other medications.

Why should we have to pay for these old sick farts? I don't want my tax dollars going to them. What I pay into taking care of myself later in life is being used for these old people.

Maybe they need to work a little longer because by the time we reach age enough to reap the benefits for our SS we will wind up being 85-90 years old so they can work a little longer now.

I have to pay extra taxes for these old people that just want to sit on the sofa. To heck with them.

Screw the elderly all they do is drain our tax dollars with all of their medications prescribed by doctors when most of the time they only need half of the medications and the others are for side effects of the other medications.

Why should we have to pay for these old sick farts? I don't want my tax dollars going to them. What I pay into taking care of myself later in life is being used for these old people.

Maybe they need to work a little longer because by the time we reach age enough to reap the benefits for our SS we will wind up being 85-90 years old so they can work a little longer now.

I have to pay extra taxes for these old people that just want to sit on the sofa. To heck with them.

Screw the elderly all they do is drain our tax dollars with all of their medications prescribed by doctors when most of the time they only need half of the medications and the others are for side effects of the other medications.

Why should we have to pay for these old sick farts? I don't want my tax dollars going to them. What I pay into taking care of myself later in life is being used for these old people.

Maybe they need to work a little longer because by the time we reach age enough to reap the benefits for our SS we will wind up being 85-90 years old so they can work a little longer now.

I have to pay extra taxes for these old people that just want to sit on the sofa. To heck with them.

....wow maybe they dont even have a prayer at all.......looking for the "sar" hidden in there somewhere......

Screw the elderly all they do is drain our tax dollars with all of their medications prescribed by doctors when most of the time they only need half of the medications and the others are for side effects of the other medications.

Why should we have to pay for these old sick farts? I don't want my tax dollars going to them. What I pay into taking care of myself later in life is being used for these old people.

Maybe they need to work a little longer because by the time we reach age enough to reap the benefits for our SS we will wind up being 85-90 years old so they can work a little longer now.

I have to pay extra taxes for these old people that just want to sit on the sofa. To heck with them.

You sound like this guy I know. But you are just a little more over the top.

Screw the elderly all they do is drain our tax dollars with all of their medications prescribed by doctors when most of the time they only need half of the medications and the others are for side effects of the other medications.

Why should we have to pay for these old sick farts? I don't want my tax dollars going to them. What I pay into taking care of myself later in life is being used for these old people.

Maybe they need to work a little longer because by the time we reach age enough to reap the benefits for our SS we will wind up being 85-90 years old so they can work a little longer now.

I have to pay extra taxes for these old people that just want to sit on the sofa. To heck with them.

Screw the elderly all they do is drain our tax dollars with all of their medications prescribed by doctors when most of the time they only need half of the medications and the others are for side effects of the other medications.

Why should we have to pay for these old sick farts? I don't want my tax dollars going to them. What I pay into taking care of myself later in life is being used for these old people.

Maybe they need to work a little longer because by the time we reach age enough to reap the benefits for our SS we will wind up being 85-90 years old so they can work a little longer now.

I have to pay extra taxes for these old people that just want to sit on the sofa. To heck with them.

So, Paint, how do you think you will feel about this issue when you retire and it's your medications they want to cut? :

I do agree about half the medications being necessary to treat the side effects of the other medications. Maybe people need to look into more natural medications that don't have the awful side effects. Too many of us throw ourselves into the care of the mainstream medical system without realizing its purpose is to maximize profits not cure people. It used to be to cure people at the lowest cost but that went out the window right after hospitals became for profit institutions and doctors began to incorporate.

Welcome to the 21st century. All the old stuff doesn't apply anymore, it's a whole new ball game.

So, Paint, how do you think you feel about this issue when you retire and it's your medications they want to cut? :

I do agree about half the medications being necessary to treat the side effects of the other medications. Maybe people need to look into more natural medications that don't have the awful side effects. Too many of us throw ourselves into the care of the mainstream medical system without realizing its purpose is to maximize profits not cure people. It used to be to cure people at the lowest cost but that went out the window right after hospitals became for profit institutions and doctors began to incorporate.

Welcome to the 21st century. All the old stuff doesn't apply anymore, it's a whole new ball game.

Yeah, I'm going to be upset with this whole thing if it turns out that the elderly get shafted. Old folks voted for him and he made that promise and if it gets passed w/o assistance to the elderly, then there is a moral issue with prioritizing our priorities so-to-speak.

Screw the elderly all they do is drain our tax dollars with all of their medications prescribed by doctors when most of the time they only need half of the medications and the others are for side effects of the other medications.

Why should we have to pay for these old sick farts? I don't want my tax dollars going to them. What I pay into taking care of myself later in life is being used for these old people.

Maybe they need to work a little longer because by the time we reach age enough to reap the benefits for our SS we will wind up being 85-90 years old so they can work a little longer now.

I have to pay extra taxes for these old people that just want to sit on the sofa. To heck with them.

Silverbear should be very worried. You know, with his blood pressure condition and all of his other issues. Measured health care. Who believes government run health care is the answer?

You guys really need to check the batteries in your sarcasm meter. I thought it was kind of obvious I was making fun of some that were always complaining about anything and everything that was taking money through taxes.

You guys really need to check the batteries in your sarcasm meter. I thought it was kind of obvious I was making fun of some that were always complaining about anything and everything that was taking money through taxes.

It went over thier heads Brain. I was going to suggest combining this problem with global warming. With all the ice breaking away, we could start putting the elderly out to sea like the Eskomo's used to do when they became a burden.

You guys really need to check the batteries in your sarcasm meter. I thought it was kind of obvious I was making fun of some that were always complaining about anything and everything that was taking money through taxes.

Tit for Tat Brain. We spent 8 years listening to the same thing on Bush. Not much battery checking going on then as I recall.

You get what you give in many cases and I think that this is going to be one of those times where the Right is going to give as good as they got from the Left.