‘Stop criminalising the sick for wanting help’

OXFORDSHIRE’S drugs campaigners have highlighted the case of Michelle X, the Abingdon multiple sclerosis sufferer who grew her own cannabis, as “the human cost” of Britain’s drug laws.

Calls have been made to let people use cannabis if they suffer from medical conditions which can be eased by the drug.

Lady Neidpath, Countess of Wemyss and March, also known as Amanda Feilding, founded drugs charity The Beckley Foundation 15 years ago.

She said: “This is a very clear example of a human cost, where a woman is being criminalised for treating her condition.

“Cannabis has been scientifically shown to be less harmful than tobacco or alcohol. “I think Sativex (the trade name for a chemical compound found in cannabis) should be available across the board.

“It has been shown to help with MS and I think Ms X is a clear case of the fact that the current rules on controlled drugs do not serve the people.”

Ms X said: “I would like my doctor to be able to prescribe cannabis for me.

“It is so unfair that there is a product out there which helps me but I am not allowed to have it.”

A recent report by The Beckley Foundation, which is based at Beckley Park hunting lodge outside Oxford, said controlling street drugs would reduce the harm done to users and provide an enormous source of taxed income.

But cannabis remains illegal and Ms X, who was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis when she was 21, was this week given a caution by Thames Valley Police for growing her own batch of the drug she said was to medicate herself.

Stephen Trousse, a spokesman for the MS Trust, said: “We appreciate the frustration of people with MS who feel they are being denied a potentially useful treatment.

“We believe that people with MS should have access to safe, effective and licensed treatments for their symptoms on the NHS, rather than feeling they have to find solutions outside of the law.”

However, MS sufferer and Summertown resident Tim Treuherz, who paid £240 for a private prescription for Sativex, said he stopped using the drug.

The 55-year-old said: “Different things work for different people. I tried Sativex for a period of months but I don’t use it anymore because of its side-effects.

“Sativex did ease the pain but the side-effects were too much. There was a lack of ability to concentrate on anything.

“But at the moment some people cannot afford it and I think it should be rolled out across the country on the NHS.”

HOW THE LAW WORKS ELSEWHERE

OVER the past two decades, 18 states in the United States have legalised medical cannabis.
Some states issue medical marijuana cards that enable people with a doctor’s recommendation to obtain, possess, or cultivate cannabis for medicinal use.
Medical cannabis is also legal in Spain, the Netherlands, the Czech Republic and Canada.
In France, cannabis derivatives can be used to manufacture medicinal products that can only be obtained with a prescription and will only be prescribed when all other medications have failed to effectively relieve suffering.

QUESTIONS & ANSWERS: MARIJUANA AS MEDICINE

Q: WHAT IS THE LEGAL SITUATION REGARDING THE USE OF IN THE UK?

A: Cannabis is illegal and a class B drug, which means people found in possession of it can be given a prison sentence of up to five years, an unlimited fine or both.
In 2010 the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency licensed nabiximol, a patented cannabinoid which goes under the trade name Sativex, as a prescription-only medicine for the treatment of spasticity due to multiple sclerosis.
Sativex has not yet been assessed by the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence but is being included in the review of Clinical Guideline 8, Multiple sclerosis: management of multiple sclerosis in primary and secondary care.
A decision is expected in 2014 and, until then, funding decisions are made locally by NHS authorities according to their priorities and budgets — patients can get private prescription but these cost much more.

Q: WHAT IS SATIVEX AND HOW DOES MEDICAL MARIJUANA WORK?

A: Sativex is the trade name for nabiximol, a patented cannabinoid. Cannabinoids are a type of chemical compound which can be found in cannabis and some other plants.
The most famous cannabinoid is tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) the primary psychoactive compound of cannabis.
Sativex contains both THC and cannabidiol which is another major constituent of the plant.
It takes the form of a mouth spray and can be used to relax muscles and suppress muscle spasms in those with MS and spinal chord injuries. However, other anti-spasticity drugs such as baclofen and tizanidine do exist.
Sativex is marketed by German pharmaceutical company Bayer.
Bayer spokesman Danielle Smith said: “Sativex is a licensed cannabis extract approved for the treatment of patients with MS spasticity who are still having troublesome symptoms, despite trying other medications and who find Sativex works well for them in the first four weeks of treatment.
“Bayer is aware that Sativex is not freely available across the UK but is working with authorities to enable NHS access for those people with MS spasticity who are suitable for the product.”
Studies have shown medical cannabis can also be used to treat alcohol abuse, bipolar disorder, Parkinson’s disease, asthma and leukaemia.

Comments

Owen Richards
9:44am Fri 18 Oct 13

For the benefit of those who have fallen for the great GW Pharma confidence trick, allow me to set out a few facts that have been covered up, twisted and distorted.

1. Sativex IS cannabis. It is pharmacologically identical to the plants from which it is made. It is NOT just an extract of THC and CBD, it contains all the cannabinoids, terpenes, flavonoids and other compounds included in cannabis. As Geoffrey Guy says "Most people in our industry said it was impossible to turn cannabis into a prescription medicine. We had to rewrite the rule book. We have the first approval of a plant extract drug in modern history. It has 420 molecules, whereas every other drug has just one."

2. Sativex DOES get you high, just as every form of cannabis (except industrial hemp). See the Sativex Summary of Product Characteristics (SPC) which describes "euphoric mood" as a "common" side effect.

3. GW's licence to cultivate cannabis issued in 1998 was for research purposes only. Since at least 2003 GW has been involved in commercial exploitation of cannabis and has therefore been acting unlawfully. The Home Secretary RETROSPECTIVELY LEGALISED GW's licence by statutory instrument dated 13th March 2013. For the 10 years prior to that, GW, its directors and employees should have ben subject to the same criminal penalties as anyone else producing a class B drug.

4. GW is engaged with the Home Secretary in an unlawful conspiracy falsely to distinguish Sativex from cannabis. Note that when re-scheduling Sativex in schedule 4 it has used a 75 word definition whereas every other drug in all five other schedules is defined by one word. The definition of Sativex even includes its method of delivery by an oral-mucosal spray.

5. GW is engaged with the Home Secretary in an unlawful conspiracy to protect its unlawful monopoly of medicinal cannabis with the support of the British police which acts as armed enforcers of a private commercial interest.

6. The Home Office overrides doctors prescriptions for medicinal cannabis produced by Bedrocan, the Dutch government's official producer. Home Office officials intimidate and threaten GPs who write such prescriptions.

7. Sativex is fantastically expensive. The NHS is charged at least 20 times the price for Sativex that organised crime sells cannabis for on the streets and twice what Bedrocan is available for.

More information here: http://www.clear-uk.
org/sative...

For the benefit of those who have fallen for the great GW Pharma confidence trick, allow me to set out a few facts that have been covered up, twisted and distorted.
1. Sativex IS cannabis. It is pharmacologically identical to the plants from which it is made. It is NOT just an extract of THC and CBD, it contains all the cannabinoids, terpenes, flavonoids and other compounds included in cannabis. As Geoffrey Guy says "Most people in our industry said it was impossible to turn cannabis into a prescription medicine. We had to rewrite the rule book. We have the first approval of a plant extract drug in modern history. It has 420 molecules, whereas every other drug has just one."
2. Sativex DOES get you high, just as every form of cannabis (except industrial hemp). See the Sativex Summary of Product Characteristics (SPC) which describes "euphoric mood" as a "common" side effect.
3. GW's licence to cultivate cannabis issued in 1998 was for research purposes only. Since at least 2003 GW has been involved in commercial exploitation of cannabis and has therefore been acting unlawfully. The Home Secretary RETROSPECTIVELY LEGALISED GW's licence by statutory instrument dated 13th March 2013. For the 10 years prior to that, GW, its directors and employees should have ben subject to the same criminal penalties as anyone else producing a class B drug.
4. GW is engaged with the Home Secretary in an unlawful conspiracy falsely to distinguish Sativex from cannabis. Note that when re-scheduling Sativex in schedule 4 it has used a 75 word definition whereas every other drug in all five other schedules is defined by one word. The definition of Sativex even includes its method of delivery by an oral-mucosal spray.
5. GW is engaged with the Home Secretary in an unlawful conspiracy to protect its unlawful monopoly of medicinal cannabis with the support of the British police which acts as armed enforcers of a private commercial interest.
6. The Home Office overrides doctors prescriptions for medicinal cannabis produced by Bedrocan, the Dutch government's official producer. Home Office officials intimidate and threaten GPs who write such prescriptions.
7. Sativex is fantastically expensive. The NHS is charged at least 20 times the price for Sativex that organised crime sells cannabis for on the streets and twice what Bedrocan is available for.
More information here: http://www.clear-uk.
org/sative...Owen Richards

For the benefit of those who have fallen for the great GW Pharma confidence trick, allow me to set out a few facts that have been covered up, twisted and distorted.

1. Sativex IS cannabis. It is pharmacologically identical to the plants from which it is made. It is NOT just an extract of THC and CBD, it contains all the cannabinoids, terpenes, flavonoids and other compounds included in cannabis. As Geoffrey Guy says "Most people in our industry said it was impossible to turn cannabis into a prescription medicine. We had to rewrite the rule book. We have the first approval of a plant extract drug in modern history. It has 420 molecules, whereas every other drug has just one."

2. Sativex DOES get you high, just as every form of cannabis (except industrial hemp). See the Sativex Summary of Product Characteristics (SPC) which describes "euphoric mood" as a "common" side effect.

3. GW's licence to cultivate cannabis issued in 1998 was for research purposes only. Since at least 2003 GW has been involved in commercial exploitation of cannabis and has therefore been acting unlawfully. The Home Secretary RETROSPECTIVELY LEGALISED GW's licence by statutory instrument dated 13th March 2013. For the 10 years prior to that, GW, its directors and employees should have ben subject to the same criminal penalties as anyone else producing a class B drug.

4. GW is engaged with the Home Secretary in an unlawful conspiracy falsely to distinguish Sativex from cannabis. Note that when re-scheduling Sativex in schedule 4 it has used a 75 word definition whereas every other drug in all five other schedules is defined by one word. The definition of Sativex even includes its method of delivery by an oral-mucosal spray.

5. GW is engaged with the Home Secretary in an unlawful conspiracy to protect its unlawful monopoly of medicinal cannabis with the support of the British police which acts as armed enforcers of a private commercial interest.

6. The Home Office overrides doctors prescriptions for medicinal cannabis produced by Bedrocan, the Dutch government's official producer. Home Office officials intimidate and threaten GPs who write such prescriptions.

7. Sativex is fantastically expensive. The NHS is charged at least 20 times the price for Sativex that organised crime sells cannabis for on the streets and twice what Bedrocan is available for.

More information here: http://www.clear-uk.
org/sative...

Score: 24

Juergen1957
9:47am Fri 18 Oct 13

Well, Sativex is a medicine, a whole plant extract from Cannabis, so why is the plant still in a stigma, cause of the not existing harm or what?

Here comes the truth:

Denial of cannabis by Prohibition ‘law’ premeditatedly inflicts suffering, blindness, and, in many instances, death. Those who maintain any use of life-saving cannabis to be "illegal" should be regarded and treated as perpetrators of the gravest of crimes, and deemed unfit to hold any public office in a democratic society.

The Report collates Empirical Evidence and the Findings of Fact of official clinical studies which exonerate cannabis and vindicate all cultivation, trade, possession and use. The Report establishes massive ulterior money-motive and prejury behind prohibition; and indicts government.

THE REPORT. CANNABIS: THE FACTS, HUMAN RIGHTS AND THE LAW ISBN 9781902848204.

Well, Sativex is a medicine, a whole plant extract from Cannabis, so why is the plant still in a stigma, cause of the not existing harm or what?
Here comes the truth:
Denial of cannabis by Prohibition ‘law’ premeditatedly inflicts suffering, blindness, and, in many instances, death. Those who maintain any use of life-saving cannabis to be "illegal" should be regarded and treated as perpetrators of the gravest of crimes, and deemed unfit to hold any public office in a democratic society.
The Report collates Empirical Evidence and the Findings of Fact of official clinical studies which exonerate cannabis and vindicate all cultivation, trade, possession and use. The Report establishes massive ulterior money-motive and prejury behind prohibition; and indicts government.
The Report presents irrefutable Legal Grounds for Restoration: Relegalisation, Amnesty & Restitution.
THE REPORT. CANNABIS: THE FACTS, HUMAN RIGHTS AND THE LAW ISBN 9781902848204.Juergen1957

Well, Sativex is a medicine, a whole plant extract from Cannabis, so why is the plant still in a stigma, cause of the not existing harm or what?

Here comes the truth:

Denial of cannabis by Prohibition ‘law’ premeditatedly inflicts suffering, blindness, and, in many instances, death. Those who maintain any use of life-saving cannabis to be "illegal" should be regarded and treated as perpetrators of the gravest of crimes, and deemed unfit to hold any public office in a democratic society.

The Report collates Empirical Evidence and the Findings of Fact of official clinical studies which exonerate cannabis and vindicate all cultivation, trade, possession and use. The Report establishes massive ulterior money-motive and prejury behind prohibition; and indicts government.

THE REPORT. CANNABIS: THE FACTS, HUMAN RIGHTS AND THE LAW ISBN 9781902848204.

Score: 20

caversfield
7:59pm Fri 18 Oct 13

why is it most people on benefits smoke it? because it kills brain cells and makes them dumb. the link is irrefutable.

why is it most people on benefits smoke it? because it kills brain cells and makes them dumb. the link is irrefutable.caversfield

why is it most people on benefits smoke it? because it kills brain cells and makes them dumb. the link is irrefutable.

Score: -24

Lord Palmerstone
8:42am Sat 19 Oct 13

The debate goes on, but it's curious that Michael X should be cautioned by police where most would say the public interest does not demand it, whilst left wing Keir Starmer, ending his reign as DPP indicates it is not in the public interest to prosecute "doctors" who kill babies because they're little girls.

The debate goes on, but it's curious that Michael X should be cautioned by police where most would say the public interest does not demand it, whilst left wing Keir Starmer, ending his reign as DPP indicates it is not in the public interest to prosecute "doctors" who kill babies because they're little girls.Lord Palmerstone

The debate goes on, but it's curious that Michael X should be cautioned by police where most would say the public interest does not demand it, whilst left wing Keir Starmer, ending his reign as DPP indicates it is not in the public interest to prosecute "doctors" who kill babies because they're little girls.

Score: 2

max3
11:59am Sat 19 Oct 13

caversfield wrote…

why is it most people on benefits smoke it? because it kills brain cells and makes them dumb. the link is irrefutable.

what link is this? CBD actually promotes and increases... i think you need to look into the real strains rather than the street types created BY Prohibition :)

[quote][p][bold]caversfield[/bold] wrote:
why is it most people on benefits smoke it? because it kills brain cells and makes them dumb. the link is irrefutable.[/p][/quote]what link is this? CBD actually promotes and increases... i think you need to look into the real strains rather than the street types created BY Prohibition :)max3

caversfield wrote…

why is it most people on benefits smoke it? because it kills brain cells and makes them dumb. the link is irrefutable.

what link is this? CBD actually promotes and increases... i think you need to look into the real strains rather than the street types created BY Prohibition :)

Score: 4

Juergen1957
6:01pm Sat 19 Oct 13

caversfield wrote…

why is it most people on benefits smoke it? because it kills brain cells and makes them dumb. the link is irrefutable.

In short, the allegations of "harm" by which Cannabis has been prohibited are, by disinterested scientific scrutiny, not substantiated: the "harm" has been competently , comprehensively and consistently dismissed.

The allegations are naught by figments. The unfounded "law" has always been false; the Prohibition is an ongoing fraud; all Cannabis related prosecutions of citizens are malicious.

[quote][p][bold]caversfield[/bold] wrote:
why is it most people on benefits smoke it? because it kills brain cells and makes them dumb. the link is irrefutable.[/p][/quote]In short, the allegations of "harm" by which Cannabis has been prohibited are, by disinterested scientific scrutiny, not substantiated: the "harm" has been competently , comprehensively and consistently dismissed.
The allegations are naught by figments. The unfounded "law" has always been false; the Prohibition is an ongoing fraud; all Cannabis related prosecutions of citizens are malicious.Juergen1957

caversfield wrote…

why is it most people on benefits smoke it? because it kills brain cells and makes them dumb. the link is irrefutable.

In short, the allegations of "harm" by which Cannabis has been prohibited are, by disinterested scientific scrutiny, not substantiated: the "harm" has been competently , comprehensively and consistently dismissed.

The allegations are naught by figments. The unfounded "law" has always been false; the Prohibition is an ongoing fraud; all Cannabis related prosecutions of citizens are malicious.

Score: 5

Lord Palmerstone
9:20am Sun 20 Oct 13

Juergen1957 wrote…

caversfield wrote…

why is it most people on benefits smoke it? because it kills brain cells and makes them dumb. the link is irrefutable.

In short, the allegations of "harm" by which Cannabis has been prohibited are, by disinterested scientific scrutiny, not substantiated: the "harm" has been competently , comprehensively and consistently dismissed.

The allegations are naught by figments. The unfounded "law" has always been false; the Prohibition is an ongoing fraud; all Cannabis related prosecutions of citizens are malicious.

As I've said before in response to the weird cannabis lobby( this one calling itself juergen-another one in another paper calls itself svengard:, Nordic theme, and always with the same messianic phraseology) which immediately clusters on any item about the stuff, whether people prone to psychosis self medicate with it or whether the stuff predisposes to psychosis is a moot point. Certainly certain ethnic groups who use it have more psychosis. The central point is-we've got enough problems with alcohol. Don't tell people cannabis is OK and create more trouble and illness.

[quote][p][bold]Juergen1957[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]caversfield[/bold] wrote:
why is it most people on benefits smoke it? because it kills brain cells and makes them dumb. the link is irrefutable.[/p][/quote]In short, the allegations of "harm" by which Cannabis has been prohibited are, by disinterested scientific scrutiny, not substantiated: the "harm" has been competently , comprehensively and consistently dismissed.
The allegations are naught by figments. The unfounded "law" has always been false; the Prohibition is an ongoing fraud; all Cannabis related prosecutions of citizens are malicious.[/p][/quote]As I've said before in response to the weird cannabis lobby( this one calling itself juergen-another one in another paper calls itself svengard:, Nordic theme, and always with the same messianic phraseology) which immediately clusters on any item about the stuff, whether people prone to psychosis self medicate with it or whether the stuff predisposes to psychosis is a moot point. Certainly certain ethnic groups who use it have more psychosis. The central point is-we've got enough problems with alcohol. Don't tell people cannabis is OK and create more trouble and illness.Lord Palmerstone

Juergen1957 wrote…

caversfield wrote…

why is it most people on benefits smoke it? because it kills brain cells and makes them dumb. the link is irrefutable.

In short, the allegations of "harm" by which Cannabis has been prohibited are, by disinterested scientific scrutiny, not substantiated: the "harm" has been competently , comprehensively and consistently dismissed.

The allegations are naught by figments. The unfounded "law" has always been false; the Prohibition is an ongoing fraud; all Cannabis related prosecutions of citizens are malicious.

As I've said before in response to the weird cannabis lobby( this one calling itself juergen-another one in another paper calls itself svengard:, Nordic theme, and always with the same messianic phraseology) which immediately clusters on any item about the stuff, whether people prone to psychosis self medicate with it or whether the stuff predisposes to psychosis is a moot point. Certainly certain ethnic groups who use it have more psychosis. The central point is-we've got enough problems with alcohol. Don't tell people cannabis is OK and create more trouble and illness.

Score: -2

Owen Richards
9:55am Sun 20 Oct 13

Lord Palmerstone wrote…

Juergen1957 wrote…

caversfield wrote…

why is it most people on benefits smoke it? because it kills brain cells and makes them dumb. the link is irrefutable.

In short, the allegations of "harm" by which Cannabis has been prohibited are, by disinterested scientific scrutiny, not substantiated: the "harm" has been competently , comprehensively and consistently dismissed.

The allegations are naught by figments. The unfounded "law" has always been false; the Prohibition is an ongoing fraud; all Cannabis related prosecutions of citizens are malicious.

As I've said before in response to the weird cannabis lobby( this one calling itself juergen-another one in another paper calls itself svengard:, Nordic theme, and always with the same messianic phraseology) which immediately clusters on any item about the stuff, whether people prone to psychosis self medicate with it or whether the stuff predisposes to psychosis is a moot point. Certainly certain ethnic groups who use it have more psychosis. The central point is-we've got enough problems with alcohol. Don't tell people cannabis is OK and create more trouble and illness.

Cannabis is OK! It is the safest psychoactive substance on the planet and offers a myriad of benefits which is why mankind has used it for at least 5,000 years safely and effectively. The prohibition experiment of the last 80 years has been a disaster, creating massive harms across the world.

More than that, experts now recognise that for most adults, in moderation, cannabis is actually good for you. It acts as a supplement to the endocannabinoid system and helps to protect against autoimmune conditions such as diabetes and cancer. It is also neuroprotective and helpful in the treatment of neurodegenerative conditions such as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. THC, the principal psychoactive ingredient is more effective inhibitor of the development of Alzheimer's than any currently available pharmaceutical product: http://www.webmd.com
/alzheimers/news/200
61006/marijuana-may-
slow-alzheimers

[quote][p][bold]Lord Palmerstone[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Juergen1957[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]caversfield[/bold] wrote:
why is it most people on benefits smoke it? because it kills brain cells and makes them dumb. the link is irrefutable.[/p][/quote]In short, the allegations of "harm" by which Cannabis has been prohibited are, by disinterested scientific scrutiny, not substantiated: the "harm" has been competently , comprehensively and consistently dismissed.
The allegations are naught by figments. The unfounded "law" has always been false; the Prohibition is an ongoing fraud; all Cannabis related prosecutions of citizens are malicious.[/p][/quote]As I've said before in response to the weird cannabis lobby( this one calling itself juergen-another one in another paper calls itself svengard:, Nordic theme, and always with the same messianic phraseology) which immediately clusters on any item about the stuff, whether people prone to psychosis self medicate with it or whether the stuff predisposes to psychosis is a moot point. Certainly certain ethnic groups who use it have more psychosis. The central point is-we've got enough problems with alcohol. Don't tell people cannabis is OK and create more trouble and illness.[/p][/quote]Cannabis is OK! It is the safest psychoactive substance on the planet and offers a myriad of benefits which is why mankind has used it for at least 5,000 years safely and effectively. The prohibition experiment of the last 80 years has been a disaster, creating massive harms across the world.
More than that, experts now recognise that for most adults, in moderation, cannabis is actually good for you. It acts as a supplement to the endocannabinoid system and helps to protect against autoimmune conditions such as diabetes and cancer. It is also neuroprotective and helpful in the treatment of neurodegenerative conditions such as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. THC, the principal psychoactive ingredient is more effective inhibitor of the development of Alzheimer's than any currently available pharmaceutical product: http://www.webmd.com
/alzheimers/news/200
61006/marijuana-may-
slow-alzheimersOwen Richards

Lord Palmerstone wrote…

Juergen1957 wrote…

caversfield wrote…

why is it most people on benefits smoke it? because it kills brain cells and makes them dumb. the link is irrefutable.

In short, the allegations of "harm" by which Cannabis has been prohibited are, by disinterested scientific scrutiny, not substantiated: the "harm" has been competently , comprehensively and consistently dismissed.

The allegations are naught by figments. The unfounded "law" has always been false; the Prohibition is an ongoing fraud; all Cannabis related prosecutions of citizens are malicious.

As I've said before in response to the weird cannabis lobby( this one calling itself juergen-another one in another paper calls itself svengard:, Nordic theme, and always with the same messianic phraseology) which immediately clusters on any item about the stuff, whether people prone to psychosis self medicate with it or whether the stuff predisposes to psychosis is a moot point. Certainly certain ethnic groups who use it have more psychosis. The central point is-we've got enough problems with alcohol. Don't tell people cannabis is OK and create more trouble and illness.

Cannabis is OK! It is the safest psychoactive substance on the planet and offers a myriad of benefits which is why mankind has used it for at least 5,000 years safely and effectively. The prohibition experiment of the last 80 years has been a disaster, creating massive harms across the world.

More than that, experts now recognise that for most adults, in moderation, cannabis is actually good for you. It acts as a supplement to the endocannabinoid system and helps to protect against autoimmune conditions such as diabetes and cancer. It is also neuroprotective and helpful in the treatment of neurodegenerative conditions such as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. THC, the principal psychoactive ingredient is more effective inhibitor of the development of Alzheimer's than any currently available pharmaceutical product: http://www.webmd.com
/alzheimers/news/200
61006/marijuana-may-
slow-alzheimers

Score: -1

Lord Palmerstone
12:02pm Sun 20 Oct 13

"More than that, experts now recognise that for most adults, in moderation, cannabis is actually good for you"
So is a glass of wine a day. I am sure A&E doctors see the benefits of that substance every Saturday night. But, as a matter of interest, what do you do about the 10's of thousands who would take to the stuff "immoderately" if you and your Nordic messiahs got your way?

"More than that, experts now recognise that for most adults, in moderation, cannabis is actually good for you"
So is a glass of wine a day. I am sure A&E doctors see the benefits of that substance every Saturday night. But, as a matter of interest, what do you do about the 10's of thousands who would take to the stuff "immoderately" if you and your Nordic messiahs got your way?Lord Palmerstone

"More than that, experts now recognise that for most adults, in moderation, cannabis is actually good for you"
So is a glass of wine a day. I am sure A&E doctors see the benefits of that substance every Saturday night. But, as a matter of interest, what do you do about the 10's of thousands who would take to the stuff "immoderately" if you and your Nordic messiahs got your way?

Score: -11

Owen Richards
12:17pm Sun 20 Oct 13

Lord Palmerstone wrote…

"More than that, experts now recognise that for most adults, in moderation, cannabis is actually good for you"
So is a glass of wine a day. I am sure A&E doctors see the benefits of that substance every Saturday night. But, as a matter of interest, what do you do about the 10's of thousands who would take to the stuff "immoderately" if you and your Nordic messiahs got your way?

Regulation - not the complete absence of any control or responsibility that we have now.

We have abandoned our children to street dealers and our communities to organised crime cannabis farms.

Tax and regulate for the benefit of all. It's a £6 billion pa market, it's not going away and at present it all goes into the pockets of criminals while we fritter £500 million pa away on futile law enforcement efforts.

[quote][p][bold]Lord Palmerstone[/bold] wrote:
"More than that, experts now recognise that for most adults, in moderation, cannabis is actually good for you"
So is a glass of wine a day. I am sure A&E doctors see the benefits of that substance every Saturday night. But, as a matter of interest, what do you do about the 10's of thousands who would take to the stuff "immoderately" if you and your Nordic messiahs got your way?[/p][/quote]Regulation - not the complete absence of any control or responsibility that we have now.
We have abandoned our children to street dealers and our communities to organised crime cannabis farms.
Tax and regulate for the benefit of all. It's a £6 billion pa market, it's not going away and at present it all goes into the pockets of criminals while we fritter £500 million pa away on futile law enforcement efforts.Owen Richards

Lord Palmerstone wrote…

"More than that, experts now recognise that for most adults, in moderation, cannabis is actually good for you"
So is a glass of wine a day. I am sure A&E doctors see the benefits of that substance every Saturday night. But, as a matter of interest, what do you do about the 10's of thousands who would take to the stuff "immoderately" if you and your Nordic messiahs got your way?

Regulation - not the complete absence of any control or responsibility that we have now.

We have abandoned our children to street dealers and our communities to organised crime cannabis farms.

Tax and regulate for the benefit of all. It's a £6 billion pa market, it's not going away and at present it all goes into the pockets of criminals while we fritter £500 million pa away on futile law enforcement efforts.

Score: -1

AB3
1:20pm Sun 20 Oct 13

To waht end is this? How many prison hospital beds would be filled if all those that chose to grow a plant that eases the terrible pains and sufferings or are force3d to go to street dealers to buy cannabis? Was that the intent of the Misuse of Drugs Act.

The UK Government stubbornly refuses to acknolwedge the medicinal benefits of cannabis, despite the evidence, despite the many countries that now permit it- or is the law there to favour the expensive and often ineffective pharmaceutical products.

IT IS TIME the people let the Government know that we will no longer stand for the victimisation of sick people that use cannabis.

To waht end is this? How many prison hospital beds would be filled if all those that chose to grow a plant that eases the terrible pains and sufferings or are force3d to go to street dealers to buy cannabis? Was that the intent of the Misuse of Drugs Act.
The UK Government stubbornly refuses to acknolwedge the medicinal benefits of cannabis, despite the evidence, despite the many countries that now permit it- or is the law there to favour the expensive and often ineffective pharmaceutical products.
IT IS TIME the people let the Government know that we will no longer stand for the victimisation of sick people that use cannabis.AB3

To waht end is this? How many prison hospital beds would be filled if all those that chose to grow a plant that eases the terrible pains and sufferings or are force3d to go to street dealers to buy cannabis? Was that the intent of the Misuse of Drugs Act.

The UK Government stubbornly refuses to acknolwedge the medicinal benefits of cannabis, despite the evidence, despite the many countries that now permit it- or is the law there to favour the expensive and often ineffective pharmaceutical products.

IT IS TIME the people let the Government know that we will no longer stand for the victimisation of sick people that use cannabis.

Score: 3

profondo asbo
8:45pm Sun 20 Oct 13

didn't you lot have the exact same circle jerk on the other story?

didn't you lot have the exact same circle jerk on the other story?profondo asbo

didn't you lot have the exact same circle jerk on the other story?

Score: -33

profondo asbo
8:48pm Sun 20 Oct 13

Lord Palmerstone wrote…

"More than that, experts now recognise that for most adults, in moderation, cannabis is actually good for you"
So is a glass of wine a day. I am sure A&E doctors see the benefits of that substance every Saturday night. But, as a matter of interest, what do you do about the 10's of thousands who would take to the stuff "immoderately" if you and your Nordic messiahs got your way?

the pro cannabis lobby are a pretty scary army of bots.

[quote][p][bold]Lord Palmerstone[/bold] wrote:
"More than that, experts now recognise that for most adults, in moderation, cannabis is actually good for you"
So is a glass of wine a day. I am sure A&E doctors see the benefits of that substance every Saturday night. But, as a matter of interest, what do you do about the 10's of thousands who would take to the stuff "immoderately" if you and your Nordic messiahs got your way?[/p][/quote]the pro cannabis lobby are a pretty scary army of bots.profondo asbo

Lord Palmerstone wrote…

"More than that, experts now recognise that for most adults, in moderation, cannabis is actually good for you"
So is a glass of wine a day. I am sure A&E doctors see the benefits of that substance every Saturday night. But, as a matter of interest, what do you do about the 10's of thousands who would take to the stuff "immoderately" if you and your Nordic messiahs got your way?

the pro cannabis lobby are a pretty scary army of bots.

Score: -27

profondo asbo
8:49pm Sun 20 Oct 13

many of whom are foreign.

many of whom are foreign.profondo asbo

many of whom are foreign.

Score: -25

SeabourneDay
9:06pm Sun 20 Oct 13

We all have an endocannabinoid system. It regulates the other systems in our body. As Raphael Mechoulem, the man who originally discovered THC in 1964 and has been studying cannabis ever since, whose team discovered the endocannabinoid system in 1987, states, "There is barely a biological or physiological system in our bodies in which the endocannabinoids do not participate". Our bodies run on cannabinoids, some people don't produce enough, like a diabetic with insulin. When the body's own endocannabinoids are diminished, this causes a function issue within the body's systems.

There is room for cannabis medicine, the practice of medicine based on the endocannabinoid system and using cannabis to treat it. Science understands the connection between the plant and humans, it is time the nation accepts cannabis medicine as a science.

Misinformation has done much damage over the last 75 years as has the war on a plant and those who use it. Cannabis has continually been shown to be a remarkable anti-inflammatory which could be of great help to the millions of people that suffer chronic pain.

Topical use of cannabis butter is the best pain relief available on the planet. It is effective for nerve damage from injuries, broken bones, injured knees, and amazingly even gallstone pain as I recently learned from experience. Even more recent, I made a liniment soaking stems in alcohol. It stops the pain of gallstones, bone spurs, nerve damage, gout, sprains, arthritis. Everyone with every kind of pain has been totally amazed. Cannabis is the best medicine.

Cannabis is such an awesome antibiotic it can kill methicillin-resistan
t Staphylococcus aureus and disrupt the progression of prion diseases such as Mad Cow and Creutzfeld-Jakob disease. According to the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke, currently there is "No FDA-approved treatment for a prion disease.”

We all have an endocannabinoid system. It regulates the other systems in our body. As Raphael Mechoulem, the man who originally discovered THC in 1964 and has been studying cannabis ever since, whose team discovered the endocannabinoid system in 1987, states, "There is barely a biological or physiological system in our bodies in which the endocannabinoids do not participate". Our bodies run on cannabinoids, some people don't produce enough, like a diabetic with insulin. When the body's own endocannabinoids are diminished, this causes a function issue within the body's systems.
There is room for cannabis medicine, the practice of medicine based on the endocannabinoid system and using cannabis to treat it. Science understands the connection between the plant and humans, it is time the nation accepts cannabis medicine as a science.
Misinformation has done much damage over the last 75 years as has the war on a plant and those who use it. Cannabis has continually been shown to be a remarkable anti-inflammatory which could be of great help to the millions of people that suffer chronic pain.
Topical use of cannabis butter is the best pain relief available on the planet. It is effective for nerve damage from injuries, broken bones, injured knees, and amazingly even gallstone pain as I recently learned from experience. Even more recent, I made a liniment soaking stems in alcohol. It stops the pain of gallstones, bone spurs, nerve damage, gout, sprains, arthritis. Everyone with every kind of pain has been totally amazed. Cannabis is the best medicine.
Cannabis is such an awesome antibiotic it can kill methicillin-resistan
t Staphylococcus aureus and disrupt the progression of prion diseases such as Mad Cow and Creutzfeld-Jakob disease. According to the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke, currently there is "No FDA-approved treatment for a prion disease.”SeabourneDay

We all have an endocannabinoid system. It regulates the other systems in our body. As Raphael Mechoulem, the man who originally discovered THC in 1964 and has been studying cannabis ever since, whose team discovered the endocannabinoid system in 1987, states, "There is barely a biological or physiological system in our bodies in which the endocannabinoids do not participate". Our bodies run on cannabinoids, some people don't produce enough, like a diabetic with insulin. When the body's own endocannabinoids are diminished, this causes a function issue within the body's systems.

There is room for cannabis medicine, the practice of medicine based on the endocannabinoid system and using cannabis to treat it. Science understands the connection between the plant and humans, it is time the nation accepts cannabis medicine as a science.

Misinformation has done much damage over the last 75 years as has the war on a plant and those who use it. Cannabis has continually been shown to be a remarkable anti-inflammatory which could be of great help to the millions of people that suffer chronic pain.

Topical use of cannabis butter is the best pain relief available on the planet. It is effective for nerve damage from injuries, broken bones, injured knees, and amazingly even gallstone pain as I recently learned from experience. Even more recent, I made a liniment soaking stems in alcohol. It stops the pain of gallstones, bone spurs, nerve damage, gout, sprains, arthritis. Everyone with every kind of pain has been totally amazed. Cannabis is the best medicine.

Cannabis is such an awesome antibiotic it can kill methicillin-resistan
t Staphylococcus aureus and disrupt the progression of prion diseases such as Mad Cow and Creutzfeld-Jakob disease. According to the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke, currently there is "No FDA-approved treatment for a prion disease.”

Score: 6

Owen Richards
9:50pm Sun 20 Oct 13

SeabourneDay wrote…

We all have an endocannabinoid system. It regulates the other systems in our body. As Raphael Mechoulem, the man who originally discovered THC in 1964 and has been studying cannabis ever since, whose team discovered the endocannabinoid system in 1987, states, "There is barely a biological or physiological system in our bodies in which the endocannabinoids do not participate". Our bodies run on cannabinoids, some people don't produce enough, like a diabetic with insulin. When the body's own endocannabinoids are diminished, this causes a function issue within the body's systems.

There is room for cannabis medicine, the practice of medicine based on the endocannabinoid system and using cannabis to treat it. Science understands the connection between the plant and humans, it is time the nation accepts cannabis medicine as a science.

Misinformation has done much damage over the last 75 years as has the war on a plant and those who use it. Cannabis has continually been shown to be a remarkable anti-inflammatory which could be of great help to the millions of people that suffer chronic pain.

Topical use of cannabis butter is the best pain relief available on the planet. It is effective for nerve damage from injuries, broken bones, injured knees, and amazingly even gallstone pain as I recently learned from experience. Even more recent, I made a liniment soaking stems in alcohol. It stops the pain of gallstones, bone spurs, nerve damage, gout, sprains, arthritis. Everyone with every kind of pain has been totally amazed. Cannabis is the best medicine.

Cannabis is such an awesome antibiotic it can kill methicillin-resistan

t Staphylococcus aureus and disrupt the progression of prion diseases such as Mad Cow and Creutzfeld-Jakob disease. According to the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke, currently there is "No FDA-approved treatment for a prion disease.”

Correct

[quote][p][bold]SeabourneDay[/bold] wrote:
We all have an endocannabinoid system. It regulates the other systems in our body. As Raphael Mechoulem, the man who originally discovered THC in 1964 and has been studying cannabis ever since, whose team discovered the endocannabinoid system in 1987, states, "There is barely a biological or physiological system in our bodies in which the endocannabinoids do not participate". Our bodies run on cannabinoids, some people don't produce enough, like a diabetic with insulin. When the body's own endocannabinoids are diminished, this causes a function issue within the body's systems.
There is room for cannabis medicine, the practice of medicine based on the endocannabinoid system and using cannabis to treat it. Science understands the connection between the plant and humans, it is time the nation accepts cannabis medicine as a science.
Misinformation has done much damage over the last 75 years as has the war on a plant and those who use it. Cannabis has continually been shown to be a remarkable anti-inflammatory which could be of great help to the millions of people that suffer chronic pain.
Topical use of cannabis butter is the best pain relief available on the planet. It is effective for nerve damage from injuries, broken bones, injured knees, and amazingly even gallstone pain as I recently learned from experience. Even more recent, I made a liniment soaking stems in alcohol. It stops the pain of gallstones, bone spurs, nerve damage, gout, sprains, arthritis. Everyone with every kind of pain has been totally amazed. Cannabis is the best medicine.
Cannabis is such an awesome antibiotic it can kill methicillin-resistan
t Staphylococcus aureus and disrupt the progression of prion diseases such as Mad Cow and Creutzfeld-Jakob disease. According to the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke, currently there is "No FDA-approved treatment for a prion disease.”[/p][/quote]CorrectOwen Richards

SeabourneDay wrote…

We all have an endocannabinoid system. It regulates the other systems in our body. As Raphael Mechoulem, the man who originally discovered THC in 1964 and has been studying cannabis ever since, whose team discovered the endocannabinoid system in 1987, states, "There is barely a biological or physiological system in our bodies in which the endocannabinoids do not participate". Our bodies run on cannabinoids, some people don't produce enough, like a diabetic with insulin. When the body's own endocannabinoids are diminished, this causes a function issue within the body's systems.

There is room for cannabis medicine, the practice of medicine based on the endocannabinoid system and using cannabis to treat it. Science understands the connection between the plant and humans, it is time the nation accepts cannabis medicine as a science.

Misinformation has done much damage over the last 75 years as has the war on a plant and those who use it. Cannabis has continually been shown to be a remarkable anti-inflammatory which could be of great help to the millions of people that suffer chronic pain.

Topical use of cannabis butter is the best pain relief available on the planet. It is effective for nerve damage from injuries, broken bones, injured knees, and amazingly even gallstone pain as I recently learned from experience. Even more recent, I made a liniment soaking stems in alcohol. It stops the pain of gallstones, bone spurs, nerve damage, gout, sprains, arthritis. Everyone with every kind of pain has been totally amazed. Cannabis is the best medicine.

Cannabis is such an awesome antibiotic it can kill methicillin-resistan

t Staphylococcus aureus and disrupt the progression of prion diseases such as Mad Cow and Creutzfeld-Jakob disease. According to the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke, currently there is "No FDA-approved treatment for a prion disease.”

Correct

Score: 13

profondo asbo
8:55am Mon 21 Oct 13

bots give thumbs down to unbelievers.
must...post...spam
see what i mean!

bots give thumbs down to unbelievers.
must...post...spam
see what i mean!profondo asbo

bots give thumbs down to unbelievers.
must...post...spam
see what i mean!

Score: 3

Dr Martin
12:15am Sun 27 Oct 13

Stoners will jump on any story to justify getting their fix of weed

Stoners will jump on any story to justify getting their fix of weedDr Martin

Stoners will jump on any story to justify getting their fix of weed

Score: 0

Dr Martin
7:10pm Mon 28 Oct 13

Lord Palmerstone wrote…

Juergen1957 wrote…

caversfield wrote…

why is it most people on benefits smoke it? because it kills brain cells and makes them dumb. the link is irrefutable.

In short, the allegations of "harm" by which Cannabis has been prohibited are, by disinterested scientific scrutiny, not substantiated: the "harm" has been competently , comprehensively and consistently dismissed.

The allegations are naught by figments. The unfounded "law" has always been false; the Prohibition is an ongoing fraud; all Cannabis related prosecutions of citizens are malicious.

As I've said before in response to the weird cannabis lobby( this one calling itself juergen-another one in another paper calls itself svengard:, Nordic theme, and always with the same messianic phraseology) which immediately clusters on any item about the stuff, whether people prone to psychosis self medicate with it or whether the stuff predisposes to psychosis is a moot point. Certainly certain ethnic groups who use it have more psychosis. The central point is-we've got enough problems with alcohol. Don't tell people cannabis is OK and create more trouble and illness.

Agreed Sir

[quote][p][bold]Lord Palmerstone[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Juergen1957[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]caversfield[/bold] wrote:
why is it most people on benefits smoke it? because it kills brain cells and makes them dumb. the link is irrefutable.[/p][/quote]In short, the allegations of "harm" by which Cannabis has been prohibited are, by disinterested scientific scrutiny, not substantiated: the "harm" has been competently , comprehensively and consistently dismissed.
The allegations are naught by figments. The unfounded "law" has always been false; the Prohibition is an ongoing fraud; all Cannabis related prosecutions of citizens are malicious.[/p][/quote]As I've said before in response to the weird cannabis lobby( this one calling itself juergen-another one in another paper calls itself svengard:, Nordic theme, and always with the same messianic phraseology) which immediately clusters on any item about the stuff, whether people prone to psychosis self medicate with it or whether the stuff predisposes to psychosis is a moot point. Certainly certain ethnic groups who use it have more psychosis. The central point is-we've got enough problems with alcohol. Don't tell people cannabis is OK and create more trouble and illness.[/p][/quote]Agreed SirDr Martin

Lord Palmerstone wrote…

Juergen1957 wrote…

caversfield wrote…

why is it most people on benefits smoke it? because it kills brain cells and makes them dumb. the link is irrefutable.

In short, the allegations of "harm" by which Cannabis has been prohibited are, by disinterested scientific scrutiny, not substantiated: the "harm" has been competently , comprehensively and consistently dismissed.

The allegations are naught by figments. The unfounded "law" has always been false; the Prohibition is an ongoing fraud; all Cannabis related prosecutions of citizens are malicious.

As I've said before in response to the weird cannabis lobby( this one calling itself juergen-another one in another paper calls itself svengard:, Nordic theme, and always with the same messianic phraseology) which immediately clusters on any item about the stuff, whether people prone to psychosis self medicate with it or whether the stuff predisposes to psychosis is a moot point. Certainly certain ethnic groups who use it have more psychosis. The central point is-we've got enough problems with alcohol. Don't tell people cannabis is OK and create more trouble and illness.

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