I do have a hi point c9 i carry to but it gets to unconfortable and its kinda on the heavy side, especially if im carring 19 rounds with it. What is a good concealed 9mm but cheap to im not into fancy carry weapons that you might use in self defense once in your life. Well in the part of Arkansas i live in anyways.

As Jeff Cooper said once. If you must carry a .25 carry it empty. If you carry it loaded you may be tempted to shoot it, and if you shoot it, you MIGHT hit someone, and if you hit someone you will make them very angry and they will hurt you worse than if you didn't shoot them. As for little guns I have a Ruger LCP in .380 ACP, but that is the absolute smallest I would recommend. A small 9mm is much better.

As Jeff Cooper said once. If you must carry a .25 carry it empty. If you carry it loaded you may be tempted to shoot it, and if you shoot it, you MIGHT hit someone, and if you hit someone you will make them very angry and they will hurt you worse than if you didn't shoot them. As for little guns I have a Ruger LCP in .380 ACP, but that is the absolute smallest I would recommend. A small 9mm is much better.

I have some safety slugs, winchester expanding point, and Cor Bon. Never used the Hornady, but what Mike posted above is good info. BTW, I wouldn't want to get shot with a hi powered pellet gun, never mind a 22 and larger caliber.

FMJ that away you will get decent for caliber penetration plus in that caliber over penetration is not to much a concern smallest i would recommend would be 32 not much difference but has a little more oomph and beretta tomcats can be had cheap enough

7.65mm browning with a delivery like a brick through a plate glass window.

In all honesty you can pick up a Kel Tec P3AT (.380) or PF9 or P11 pretty cheap. If you do ever have to use the pistol in defense they'll be much more likely to perform well for you. If you must carry the 25 ACP pistol the Hornady listed above is your best bet. Empty the gun into the bad guy and be prepared to continue the fight with your hands or a knife.

Like a 22 rimfire, the 25 can easily kill someone. The problem is that you're less likely to get a hit that stops the situation quickly. Someone that dies of blood loss 5 minutes after you shoot him can still do a lot of damage before he shuts down.

Executing someone or a hog with a 25 or 22 is a different world than shooting in defense with one. 22 has been historically very popular for gang style executions which are practically always muzzle to the head contact shots.
It isnt the bullet doing a lot more than punching a hole thru the brain which is survivable part of the time but instead the force of the muzzle blast gases that does the internal damage that leads to almost instant death in such shots. 25 same thing.
I wouldnt equate shooting a hog point blank in the head and dropping it with a 25 to shooting a person in the chest or face with one from 3 feet away. That being said a 22lr semi auto rife can make life difficult for BG if thats all you have but itd be kinda hard to hide