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Comments on MetaFilter post If Mohammed Cannot Come To The Seminar...Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:17:45 -0800Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:17:45 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60If Mohammed Cannot Come To The Seminar...http://www.metafilter.com/37836/If-Mohammed-Cannot-Come-To-The-Seminar
<a href="http://www.momin.org/Imam_Seminar.htm">Seminar in Texas.</a> "Tribute to the Great Visionary." It's a triumph in both graphic design and public relations.post:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.37836Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:12:09 -0800Mayor CurleyreligionBy: neckro23http://www.metafilter.com/37836/If-Mohammed-Cannot-Come-To-The-Seminar#797192
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404, baby.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.37836-797196Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:18:51 -0800SalmonberryBy: mudpuppiehttp://www.metafilter.com/37836/If-Mohammed-Cannot-Come-To-The-Seminar#797197
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A true existential triumph in graphic design.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.37836-797197Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:19:39 -0800mudpuppieBy: weapons-grade pandemoniumhttp://www.metafilter.com/37836/If-Mohammed-Cannot-Come-To-The-Seminar#797207
Go easy on the Mayor; he's an ol'bie.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.37836-797207Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:28:04 -0800weapons-grade pandemoniumBy: weapons-grade pandemoniumhttp://www.metafilter.com/37836/If-Mohammed-Cannot-Come-To-The-Seminar#797209
I think he meant Great <em>nary-Vision.</em>comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.37836-797209Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:32:37 -0800weapons-grade pandemoniumBy: mr_crash_davishttp://www.metafilter.com/37836/If-Mohammed-Cannot-Come-To-The-Seminar#797217
Oh, it's floodin' down in Texas,
All the Muslim sites are downcomment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.37836-797217Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:37:53 -0800mr_crash_davisBy: By The Grace of Godhttp://www.metafilter.com/37836/If-Mohammed-Cannot-Come-To-The-Seminar#797219
care to explicate, Mayor? wish there'd been a few ancillary links..comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.37836-797219Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:40:14 -0800By The Grace of GodBy: weapons-grade pandemoniumhttp://www.metafilter.com/37836/If-Mohammed-Cannot-Come-To-The-Seminar#797232
*yawn*
Dear God. MAKE IT STOP ALREADY!
Wow. Genius. Pure genius.
STOP STOP STOP!
undergrad. Curses!
/. cleanup to thread 37836 please.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.37836-797232Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:55:31 -0800weapons-grade pandemoniumBy: squeakhttp://www.metafilter.com/37836/If-Mohammed-Cannot-Come-To-The-Seminar#797257
<em>*uh we need a clean up in aisle 8 please*</em>
here's google's <a href="http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:Gfto-ojPYtAJ:www.momin.org/Imam_Seminar.htm+&hl=en">cache</a> of the page.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.37836-797257Tue, 14 Dec 2004 20:52:49 -0800squeakBy: stopgaphttp://www.metafilter.com/37836/If-Mohammed-Cannot-Come-To-The-Seminar#797262
I just tracked down Google's cache myself. I have to say I still don't get it.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.37836-797262Tue, 14 Dec 2004 20:58:17 -0800stopgapBy: gubohttp://www.metafilter.com/37836/If-Mohammed-Cannot-Come-To-The-Seminar#797273
It seems to be advertising a seminar about Khomeini, without mentioning his name. 'Neither East nor West' was a slogan of his, and there's his picture there. But otherwise I don't get it either.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.37836-797273Tue, 14 Dec 2004 21:06:09 -0800guboBy: weapons-grade pandemoniumhttp://www.metafilter.com/37836/If-Mohammed-Cannot-Come-To-The-Seminar#797277
*uh we need a clean up in aisle 8 please*
We do, but aisle 8 is <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/37824">over here</a>, squeak.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.37836-797277Tue, 14 Dec 2004 21:07:22 -0800weapons-grade pandemoniumBy: squeakhttp://www.metafilter.com/37836/If-Mohammed-Cannot-Come-To-The-Seminar#797301
I noticed that too gubo and other than Khomeini was a psycho from hell, still a little lost.
[believe's in equality when it comes to housework - hand's weapons-grade pandemonium a mop ;) ]comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.37836-797301Tue, 14 Dec 2004 21:31:01 -0800squeakBy: mr_robotohttp://www.metafilter.com/37836/If-Mohammed-Cannot-Come-To-The-Seminar#797317
I don't get it either: the graphic design doesn't stand out as particularly good or bad. I mean, it's clearly amateur, but it's easy to find much worse examples, particularly in the age of the world wide web.
I guess the listing of "REPRESENTATIVE" as one of the featured speakers is pretty bad...comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.37836-797317Tue, 14 Dec 2004 21:46:12 -0800mr_robotoBy: weapons-grade pandemoniumhttp://www.metafilter.com/37836/If-Mohammed-Cannot-Come-To-The-Seminar#797421
<em>[believe's in equality when it comes to housework - hand's weapons-grade pandemonium a mop ;) ]</em>
*believes in correct use of apostrophe; hands squeak an eraser*
There's nothing else to clean up, squeak. It was just one of those practical joke <em>spill picture cutouts</em> pasted to the floor.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.37836-797421Wed, 15 Dec 2004 01:03:45 -0800weapons-grade pandemoniumBy: Mayor Curleyhttp://www.metafilter.com/37836/If-Mohammed-Cannot-Come-To-The-Seminar#797447
Sorry that it went down as soon as I posted it. And sorry that I went to bed-- I didn't figure on having to stand over the thread to stop weapons-grade pandemonium from shitting on it. And sorry that no one else thought it was ugly and funny.
But "...outlines the true policy on non-alliance for the Islamic countries and countries that in the near future with the help of Allah SWT, will accept Islam as the only school for liberating humanity and will not reced or sway from that policy even one step," isn't hilarious/threatening? It sounds just like the takeover policies that "concerned" christians accuse muslims as having.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.37836-797447Wed, 15 Dec 2004 02:36:11 -0800Mayor CurleyBy: weapons-grade pandemoniumhttp://www.metafilter.com/37836/If-Mohammed-Cannot-Come-To-The-Seminar#797487
Relax, Curley. If you and squeak will follow my link to <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/37824">aisle 8,</a> you'll see that they're not my words--just a cut and paste of remarks you guys give noobs when they don't do things just right. But I forgot this one:
<em>Can you please explain this? What the hell is it? I clicked on a few links and got some photos that aren't especially informative or compelling.
posted by Mayor Curley at 8:22 AM PST on December 14 </em>
When you hold up a mirror, you freak some people out.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.37836-797487Wed, 15 Dec 2004 03:54:33 -0800weapons-grade pandemoniumBy: yerfatmahttp://www.metafilter.com/37836/If-Mohammed-Cannot-Come-To-The-Seminar#797490
<em>When you hold up a mirror, you freak some people out.</em>
Yes, Exra Pound, this is just the sort of behavior that will fix the site's growing pains. I can't tell you how many times a handsome stranger has ridden into town and cleaned the place up with a fair dose of self-righteousness.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.37836-797490Wed, 15 Dec 2004 04:07:10 -0800yerfatmaBy: Mayor Curleyhttp://www.metafilter.com/37836/If-Mohammed-Cannot-Come-To-The-Seminar#797492
weapons-grade pandemonium, I hadn't said a bad word specifically about new users. But you're definitely creepy for a middle-aged man.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.37836-797492Wed, 15 Dec 2004 04:08:44 -0800Mayor CurleyBy: squeakhttp://www.metafilter.com/37836/If-Mohammed-Cannot-Come-To-The-Seminar#797537
Mayor Curley I thought it was odd and slightly threatening (hence my "psycho from hell" comment) after finding the page tried to find the deeper meaning behind, <em>"Tribute to the Great Visionary." It's a triumph in both graphic design and public relations."</em> That is what threw me. I thought there was some deeper meaning there. See what you mean now after expounding on it. My fault not yours.
oh I know weapons-grade pandemonium I was just having some fun (in a cheeky mood). Have to live with the apostrophe thing, I screw up sometimes - so shoot mecomment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.37836-797537Wed, 15 Dec 2004 05:53:02 -0800squeakBy: sour creamhttp://www.metafilter.com/37836/If-Mohammed-Cannot-Come-To-The-Seminar#797576
Mayor Curley: Yes, the content is a little odd, and "neither east nor west" strikes me as a pretty dorky slogan, even for a bunch of Islamic revolutionaries, but who knows what the page is really trying to say?
I mean, the page is clearly translated from something, maybe Arabic. For example, what does "policy of non-alliance for the Islamic countries" mean? What exactly are those countries that he is talking about? Iran? There seems to be a lot of "code" in there ("liberating humanity"?) that non of us uninitiated is getting.
So I wouldn't feel threatened just yet. It's not meant for your eyes anyway.
What's a salaat anyway? (I'll have mine with some of that spicy sauce please.)comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.37836-797576Wed, 15 Dec 2004 06:59:20 -0800sour creamBy: socratichttp://www.metafilter.com/37836/If-Mohammed-Cannot-Come-To-The-Seminar#797691
Ok wait... so ... like .... .... huh?
(all due respect, Mr. Mayor)comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.37836-797691Wed, 15 Dec 2004 08:33:02 -0800socraticBy: skooshhttp://www.metafilter.com/37836/If-Mohammed-Cannot-Come-To-The-Seminar#798097
"Neither East nor West" is a phrase out of Kipling's "<a href="http://whitewolf.newcastle.edu.au/words/authors/K/KiplingRudyard/verse/volumeXI/eastwest.html">The Ballad of East and West</a>." In Iran, it obviously means something completely different now. I thought that Nehru had used a similar phrase to summarize the Non-Aligned Movement of the 1950s and 1960s, but I can't seem to find anything online to back that up.
"Salaat" means prayer.
On rereading, I think the phrase "countries that in the near future with the help of Allah SWT, will accept Islam as the only school for liberating humanity" might actually be referring to Muslim-majority countries with governments insufficiently theocratic enough for these guys' liking. In any case, I am not any more bothered by Muslims dreaming of a totally Muslim world than I am by Christians dreaming of an entirely Christian world. Interestingly enough, though, both of the above bother me more than Buddhists dreaming of an entirely Buddhist world.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.37836-798097Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:34:27 -0800skooshBy: Mayor Curleyhttp://www.metafilter.com/37836/If-Mohammed-Cannot-Come-To-The-Seminar#798471
<i>In any case, I am not any more bothered by Muslims dreaming of a totally Muslim world than I am by Christians dreaming of an entirely Christian world.</i>
I feel the same way. But Christians dreaming of an entirely Christian world bothers me a fucking lot.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.37836-798471Wed, 15 Dec 2004 16:03:59 -0800Mayor CurleyBy: ZachsMindhttp://www.metafilter.com/37836/If-Mohammed-Cannot-Come-To-The-Seminar#798496
So this <em>Muslims dreaming of a totally Muslim world coupled with Christians dreaming of an entirely Christian world</em>, it vibrates?
<small>*ducking*</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.37836-798496Wed, 15 Dec 2004 16:34:27 -0800ZachsMind