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As an aside, and in my experience, the Perl/CPAN infrastructure supports testing really well doesn't seem to have any relation to whether teams writing Perl code in the wild do good testing - TDD or not.

Agreed, but we can measure that neither for Perl nor Ruby.

Along those lines, I'm sure you have the same experience that I do, that many (if not most) people who claim to do TDD really don't, not in any pervasive fashion.

Perhaps I've overspoken here, especially claiming that TDD without running the tests is