During an event by AMD held at its facility in Austin, Texas, the engineers took an engineering sample of the unreleased Deneb core based Phenom II X4, installed a copper-pot for liquid nitrogen cooling, and dropped the operational temperature to -185 °C. They then jacked up the vCore to 1.90V, to facilitate a clock speed of over 6.00 GHz!

At this point the exact frequency isn't known. Cameras weren't allowed at the event, and so no clear pictures were taken. Earlier the company had released slides to its channel contacts, telling that Phenom II would overclock very well, and 24x7 overclocks beyond 3.60 GHz on air didn't sound unreal. At the same event, AMD showcased Deneb chips doing 4.00 GHz with air-cooling (with vCore set at 1.6V).

IF AMD released a dual cpu board with DDR 3. I think it would out run a i7 machine.

8 real cores, and memory controller on the cpu.....

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That was long-term plan. To resurrect the FX line using DSDC, and give out something similar to dual Athlon64 FX 74. Dual Windsors scaled terribly over DSDC, with even a Phenom 9500 walking all over it, so it remains to be seen if a dual Deneb matches an i7.

But why is the overclocking potential so important? just release a 4.0Ghz stock clock already, even if does not overclock much over stock....
(Should I be asking this knowing that my X2 5600+ runs at 3.3Ghz)

But why is the overclocking potential so important? just release a 4.0Ghz stock clock already, even if does not overclock much over stock....
(Should I be asking this knowing that my X2 5600+ runs at 3.3Ghz)

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Yeah but then they Could charge you more for it and if not that, they would be losing money if they were to sell a 4.0Ghz CPU at the price of what they will soon sell to be 3.0Ghz one.

But why is the overclocking potential so important? just release a 4.0Ghz stock clock already, even if does not overclock much over stock....
(Should I be asking this knowing that my X2 5600+ runs at 3.3Ghz)

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For the fun.

It's hobby for a lot of people. Most people that do this as a hobby can't afford to go that extreme, but would if it was cheaper.

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Miss read your post. It's because Intel knows that AMD can not do it. They can sell all their chips at 3.0ghz now. If AMD released a chip that was clocked at 4.0Ghz, Intel would release one the very next day.

But why is the overclocking potential so important? just release a 4.0Ghz stock clock already, even if does not overclock much over stock....
(Should I be asking this knowing that my X2 5600+ runs at 3.3Ghz)

the thing is though, core i7 can clock around there too, and it can beat a phenom clock to clock. but this is a huge step for amd!

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well, a i7+mb+mem combo is around $1000, phenomII+mb+mem combo is around $480
so i dont think amd aims to be the fastest, they are just doing HD 4870 again, if you cant beat them, be cheaper and have awesome performace for price

Veeeeeeeeeeeery nice!!! I pretty much understand this move..... Well we, enthusiasts, are not a big part of the computer market share..... Most of guys here disgrace a64 x2 and phenom because it got a poor overclock potential compared to Core 2 and we do that even knowing that on price/performance ratio AMD cpus (most of them), are neck to neck on most cases to Core 2.........
So, to the normal computer user that won't overclock (more than 90% for sure) AMD or Intel are both as good as (When Intel was losing with NETbrust it choose investing in propaganda while AMD against Core 2 choose price/performance ratio to keep competitive). So which company I love most ? AMD! Which one I'm using ATM ? Intel...... You see, we can be 10% or less, but all these sites around are made by enthusiasts guys that says the same: AMD don't overclock: BAD..... intel overclocks: Good......... and people read it..... sum it up to we guys telling to our friends and paratens that don't understand about acomputers to buy Intel, almost only based on overclock potential.... I lost count on how much people already asked me to build a computer for them or that bought a computer/notebook based on my oppinion....... so I'm a overclocker and I'm not just one costumer, I'm much more than this because people buy their computer based on my oppinion of which one is the best now...... then my friend tells to a friend that tells to his friends and things keeps going...........................
Get the point ? Overclockers, enthusiasts are a key consumer to AMD or Intel.....

Ok, I so want to believe this - that AMD are back in the game with a competitive by performance and price product. Of course there is an issue with the motherboards - www.custompc.co.uk tested a load recently and the AM2 boards tended to blow up!