why would you not vote jonty NG1, you are not going to vote for yourself it doesn't make sense and if we hammer too fast jonty it will be a win for you either way (weather you're scum or town). quite suspicious you see it that way.

anyway I'm waiting for kanin's opinion, don't forget that we are masoned and we can discuss this privately. I am really not too sure to tell the truth.

jonty can you explain what you did night by night, do you have extra votes today? Actually I'm kind of thinking that you are probably the second double voter... we still didn't figure out who it was and it could fit with what is a fakeclaim....

so as "revived" we still have soundman, edoc, vodean, pcm and nendreel to help us vote. No one has anything to say about those other double votes that were not comming from IB?

jonty125 wrote:I didn't use my ability until pcm came out as double voter, targeted him every night except for the one I target Nendreel. Haven't used my double vote on any day.

this is what bugs me. there is a mafia double voter, we know that. jonty is supposed to be a town vote stealer. It looks like a perfect fakeclaim for a mafia double voter. What really trips my scumdar is what I marked in red. It doesn't fit with the mechanism of what he claims.

Wait a minute, not defending him or anything, but does someone go anywhere if they steal someone's vote? I mean I wouldnt think they went to them to take a vote, but then again I dont recall ever being in a situation like this.

I would like Jonty to clarify his actions for every night before I reveal that

new guy1 wrote:Wait a minute, not defending him or anything, but does someone go anywhere if they steal someone's vote? I mean I wouldnt think they went to them to take a vote, but then again I dont recall ever being in a situation like this.

Legion in A&D had to target, (he just died). I assume it's the same here, that is the standard for the night version of a active vote stealer, as in one that must target a player to steal.

assuming edoc is telling the truth about being town tracker, and I'm almost certain he is, his role would be pretty pointless if he got no results with the vote disabler or the vote stealer.Also does it really make sense to have a town vote stealer, having already a double voter and the possibility of having back to back days?

My reasoning: Newguy1 is night six. If we lynch newguy1, we move to day seven, and ALL PLAYERS WHO HAVE BEEN KILLED WILL BE DEAD. If that doesn't end the game, we'll wind up with Betiko, Jonty, and myself as the only remaining players alive, and then myself and Betiko could vote and lynch Jonty, thus ending the game as long as no wacky game mechanics come into effect.

And honestly Newguy1, I'm sorry if you're town, but this is the only way to be sure we can avoid any remaining night kills and also get ourselves into a position to vote out a mafia member if you aren't.

well if there are 2 scums left the only way to win would be to kill NG first. Anyway; I'll go with the safe and logical bet kanin spotted (well done mate!). No reason we don't reach day 7 by killing NG, then we will have all roles revealed and will just need to kill jonty...... oh he is a double voter though...

doom can you clarify something: if we reach the final day with kanin, myself and jonty, and that he gets to double vote, that would be 2-2. in case of tie mafia would win right?