I got in early on the qbp early buy and still have nothing so don't feel bad
I am replacing the drivetrain on my Stumpy 29er
the temp outside just dropped 30 degrees from yesterday so it's a non issue for me
tis Snow Bike season

I bought my XX1 group off of Ebay for $1050 shipped got it then I realized you had to have a certain hub, DT Swiss, Hope, or I9 in order for the cassette to work. So then I dropped another $550 on a set of DT Swiss M1700 rims plus $100 for the XD hub adapter. SRAMS direction suck hind tit especially when it comes to chain length. I also ordered a 28t sprocket for the front. The freakin cassette is as large as a 180mm rotor. Its freakin giant to say the least. I don't understand why they have to make it that way I only use 2nd through 5th gear at the most the rest is a waste. So I wanted extra powerlinks because the 10 speed one is to big calle SRAM and they do not have a release date but if you need one the guy at SRAM said go to a local bike shop have them call SRAM and they will swap out the whole chain which makes no sense along with their directions that come with all the stuff.

I originally tried to run a MRP bling ring with the MRP G2 SL Micro chain guide with XO cranks. WRONG it would not work with a 30mm BB but do you think MRP posted that info on their website no. The offset is different MRP knows this and will have a different BLING RING out in march to deal with this problem. If you want to use the set up above it will work with SRAM 1400/2200 series carbon cranks for some reason but not XO crankis. So I got fed up and bought the XX1 stuff which for the money I had to spend I am and not very happy either.

interesting.. I basically only need a smaller sprocket or two for paved road descent, to be able to pump it up above 50km/h without a circus-like cadence... the largest sprocket on my current 1x9 (29er) is pretty much large enough for any ascent my current tires (furious freds) still provide enough grip for..

Anyway, my shop told me the meant January not October (a date format mixup), but I still don't like the situation with the delivery dates jumping up and down. Wondering who does that - the european SRAM distributor? If they promise a number of items to a shop, they have to stick to that, right? But it looks like they are not, which makes the shops look bad.

I had XX1 on order with CRC back in November and they delayed half of the items and cancelled the trigger shifter, so I canceled the delayed items and tried another shop, but the situation there is the same, so very probably not a shop problem, but up the chain somewhere.

Also I know I can (probably) get it all on eBay (from the US), but that's not the point really.

interesting.. I basically only need a smaller sprocket or two for paved road descent, to be able to pump it up above 50km/h without a circus-like cadence... the largest sprocket on my current 1x9 (29er) is pretty much large enough for any ascent my current tires (furious freds) still provide enough grip for..

Anyway, my shop told me the meant January not October (a date format mixup), but I still don't like the situation with the delivery dates jumping up and down. Wondering who does that - the european SRAM distributor? If they promise a number of items to a shop, they have to stick to that, right? But it looks like they are not, which makes the shops look bad.

I had XX1 on order with CRC back in November and they delayed half of the items and cancelled the trigger shifter, so I canceled the delayed items and tried another shop, but the situation there is the same, so very probably not a shop problem, but up the chain somewhere.

Also I know I can (probably) get it all on eBay (from the US), but that's not the point really.

No u r right I totally agree I think their whole progam sucks and so do avid brakes u cannot even by a powerlink by itself you have by a hole chain that's the only way to get a master link if you need an extra one I buy almost 90% of my bike stuff off of eBay I save big money and do not have to drive

I originally tried to run a MRP bling ring with the MRP G2 SL Micro chain guide with XO cranks. WRONG it would not work with a 30mm BB but do you think MRP posted that info on their website no. The offset is different MRP knows this and will have a different BLING RING out in march to deal with this problem. If you want to use the set up above it will work with SRAM 1400/2200 series carbon cranks for some reason but not XO crankis. So I got fed up and bought the XX1 stuff which for the money I had to spend I am and not very happy either.

I'm sorry your setup didn't work, but it does on the MRP website that the Bling Ring works with GXP models only.

No u r right I totally agree I think their whole progam sucks and so do avid brakes u cannot even by a powerlink by itself you have by a hole chain that's the only way to get a master link if you need an extra one I buy almost 90% of my bike stuff off of eBay I save big money and do not have to drive

I understand you don't like sram and that is OK, to each is his own
but they do make power links separate
have a great day

I just took my bike out for the first time today with XX1 "down the street"
it is creepy how quiet it is
the shifts were crisp
if the durability works out I couldn't be happier
now I need to get it on the trail, but they are trashed right now
hope we have an early spring

QBP has pretty much been out of XX1 kits-in-a-box since they came out. They occasionally get fewer than 10 in of a certain type, but most kits have >30 accounts itemwatching, so they're gone quick. I've seen the 170mm cranks stick around for a while, and the replacement chainrings, but that's about it. The DT freehub bodies are tough to get too: I had to buy mine on eBay (brand new, and actually not much more than QBP's price). The cassette and rear trigger shifter seem particularly hard to get. I ended up buying a kit from a store on eBay for $999. Still a shitload, but far less than retail. QBP's price for the kits is like $780 or so, and when you figure in that a shop has to make *some* profit, $1k is reasonable.

After installing and riding XX1, I can see how it's not for everyone, but i can definitely say it's the best drivetrain I've used on a mountain bike.

That sucks. Less than 10 in a shipment? Classic bike industry BS. Lets release something and then make it actually not available. Like I said I know I can order it from eBay or jenson or another online mega store, but every time I do that I'm hurting my LBS, and those guys are good friends of mine. They're always there when I need them in a pinch. It's mid winter, so I don't need the drivetrain right this second, but hopefully come march they'll have plenty.

A buddy and I bought 2 sets off e-bay about a month ago and it is absolutely amazing stuff, very quiet and very crisp shifting, It blows away the 2x10 stuff I had. My local bike shop was saying it wouldn't be out until mid January, so I found it on my own. You will not be dissapointed.

Hello You experts in drivetrains and transmission in general.
I'm a weak mechanic, so i would like to know if it is possible to mix a XX1 gripshift and XX1 rear derailleur with a cassette, crank and chain from a 2x10 drivetrain.
I need to change those pieces now, the rest will be changed when needed to be full XX1.
Thanks

Hello You experts in drivetrains and transmission in general.
I'm a weak mechanic, so i would like to know if it is possible to mix a XX1 gripshift and XX1 rear derailleur with a cassette, crank and chain from a 2x10 drivetrain.
I need to change those pieces now, the rest will be changed when needed to be full XX1.
Thanks

XX1 parts all use a new tooth profile. You're much better off waiting until you can get the full kit. I'd hate to see what happened the first time you accidentally shifted to that 11th gear that wasn't there.

The 156Q-factor is pretty narrow - had to crack the plastic cadence Garmin magnet holder and take the magnet out, and tape it to the crank arm - as otherwise it was touching the chainstay (just barely but still). But yeah, definitely narrower than the X5 crank I had there before.

Great product, let's hope they make enough for everybody and not just for the eBay seller guys. And that the distributors don't change quantities after they promise them to shops. Easy, right?

Hello You experts in drivetrains and transmission in general.
I'm a weak mechanic, so i would like to know if it is possible to mix a XX1 gripshift and XX1 rear derailleur with a cassette, crank and chain from a 2x10 drivetrain.
I need to change those pieces now, the rest will be changed when needed to be full XX1.
Thanks

Hello You experts in drivetrains and transmission in general.
I'm a weak mechanic, so i would like to know if it is possible to mix a XX1 gripshift and XX1 rear derailleur with a cassette, crank and chain from a 2x10 drivetrain.
I need to change those pieces now, the rest will be changed when needed to be full XX1.
Thanks

That thread was about using an xx1 crankset with a 1x10 setup, not trying to run the xx1 shifter/derailleur with a 10sp cassette. Quite a bit different from what VICpt is asking about. Like Shiggy mentioned above, the answer would be no.

Stumbled upon this, answering my questions. Looks like a xx1 crank, 10 spd cassette, 10 spd shifter, 10 or 11 spd chain and most importantly a type 2 clutch rear derailleur will work.
Apparently the inner width is the same on 10 and 11 spd chains, although I read suggestions to run the 11 spd chain.

Can anyone from Sram chime in here? When are you releasing more XX1 full kits? QBP is out, most online retailers are out, LBS's are out. I can go buy a derailleur and a cassette, but I can't imagine anyone just needing that stuff yet. Full kits are what we need. Thank you in advance for any insight. Oh, and I'm not talking about the BB30 version or the 156 Q factor version. Those are out, but definitely not in as high of demand. 168 Q-factor, with a trigger shifter is what I'm after, and all my riding buddies.

The 156Q-factor is pretty narrow - had to crack the plastic cadence Garmin magnet holder and take the magnet out, and tape it to the crank arm - as otherwise it was touching the chainstay (just barely but still). But yeah, definitely narrower than the X5 crank I had there before.

Great product, let's hope they make enough for everybody and not just for the eBay seller guys. And that the distributors don't change quantities after they promise them to shops. Easy, right?

I agree the 156Q is pretty narrow, but obviously it depends on your frame. On my Santa Cruz Highball carbon frame (hardtail) I still have ~1cm between the rubber crank boots (RaceFace, I added) and the chainstays. Glad I got the 156Q though, because the 168Q would have had a huge gap....

The 156Q-factor is pretty narrow - had to crack the plastic cadence Garmin magnet holder and take the magnet out, and tape it to the crank arm - as otherwise it was touching the chainstay (just barely but still). But yeah, definitely narrower than the X5 crank I had there before.

Great product, let's hope they make enough for everybody and not just for the eBay seller guys. And that the distributors don't change quantities after they promise them to shops. Easy, right?

+1. Should be easy, but bike companies love to create the illusion of demand.