When Dems take the low road

It isn't every day that Democrats target Latino challengers with nasty anti-immigrant ads, but these are apparently desperate times for certain embattled Dems.

Check out this remarkably vicious new ad from Blue Dog Dem Walt Minnick of Idaho, claiming that illegal immigration is "good business" for his Republican challenger, Raul Labrador:

"Over half of his work is helping illegal immigrants stay in the United States," the spot intones, an apparent reference to the GOP challenger's work as an immigration attorney. The ad slams Labrador for running a site called RapidImmigration.com, charging that the site offers "easy to understand advice for illegal immigrants seeking amnesty."

In reality, the site in question offers would be immigrants "easy to understand pages that will help your immigration goal applying with the USCIS as a temporary visitor or permanent resident."

I'm told that Labrador is short on funds, and that Republicans think this is a tough race for them because Minnick's record is hard to attack, because he's bucked his party on many major issues. Yet Minnick apparently sees the need to run an ad that stinks of fear and desperation. Quite a specimen.

Do you know if the Republican Candidate has taken a stand on the immigration issue, during his current campaign? Might this ad be just a way of highlighting that the Republican is being a hypocrite. I don't know anything about this race, so I am just asking the question, because it seems somewhat odd that the Democrat decided to start the immigration debate this way. Could you dig into it further please, and let us know what position the Republican has taken while campaigning.

The democrats are desperate - it started with the False Charges of Racism right after the health care bill

The democrats KNEW the American People did not want Obama's version of health care.

So, ALL the American People got was a bunch of name-calling.

The NAACP followed up with their False Charges this summer.

AND the NAACP wants to investigate EVERYONE for racism too. Actually, that was making public charges before they had evidence. They said they would put the evidence up on a website. So, the NAACP is on a witch-hunt to find nuts around the country who they can SMEAR people with.

O/T If anyone drops out of the FLA senate race it's gonna have to be Crist:

"Gov. Charlie Crist and Jim Greer, the disgraced former chairman of the Florida Republican Party, took family vacations on party money, an audit released today shows.

"The two men and their families vacationed at Disney World in June 2009 and put the $13,435.99 bill on the party's American Express credit card, the audit found. Greer also took three personal vacations to fashionable Fisher Island near Miami Beach, one including Crist, at a cost of $10,992.17, auditors reported.

"... The investigation seemed to clear one of Crist's opponents, former House Speaker Marco Rubio of West Miami, of any wrongdoing."

just in case anyone on the left wonders why their agenda is being rejected by Americans here's some special insight:
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Let's get over the term Blue Dog. Guys like Minnick are DINOs, and have to fight as hard as possible to get the Cro Magnon vote in Idaho.

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so those living in Idaho are cro magnons? No doubt they don't see themselves that way. Further, I doubt they take kindly to this kind of condescencion. But hey, you liberals keep talking like this. It should do wonders for the Democrats come november!

"The democrats KNEW the American People did not want Obama's version of health care."

Monday, September 13, 2010

Fifty-three percent (53%) of U.S. voters now say they at least somewhat favor repeal of the new national health care law, matching the lowest level of opposition since the bill was passed by Congress in March. That includes 42% who Strongly Favor repeal.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 38% of Likely Voters opposes repeal of the health care bill, with 30% who are Strongly Opposed.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law

Jonathan Chait:

"Right. It's not going to happen. People may have been put off by the legislative process, but they believed and believe health care needs to be reformed. Going back to the status quo is political poison. That's why Republicans are keeping their distance before the elections."

That does not answer my question. I want to know what the Republican candidate has said about where he actually stands on Immigration, during his current campaign. There is nothing in that article that spells that out. Also, judging by the comments that were posted on their, it does appear that it is a right wing publication.

Has the Republican candidate come out in favor of a bill,that would provide a way for current undocumented people to be able to stay here, or not?

The fate of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" will hinge on the events of Tuesday afternoon.

Those who want to see the end of this indefensible policy -- *** especially those in Maine and Massachusetts who want to see the law changed *** -- are going to have to pick the phone over the next 72 hours.

To be honest, Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart are two of the biggest voices out there to fight against right wing hypocritical propaganda. They are going to putting together a rally 3 days before election day. It could potentially be a huge energizing rally.

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EXACTLY. Is this a POLITICAL rally???

It is one thing having a rally in late August, before the traditional campaign kick-off date of Labor Day.

It is another thing to have a rally 3 days before the election - it IS political.

So, how does the FEC view this political rally? It is designed to "get out the vote" -

AND yet, Comedy Central is a corporate entity - promoting a POLITICAL RALLY.

"Let me make it clear – I do not support amnesty for illegals. Let me say it again: no amnesty … not now, not ever.

"Those here illegally must return to their home countries and apply to re-enter per the laws of the United States of America.

"Massive police round-ups are both frightening and expensive.

"... To help speed-up the process, I would be willing to offer illegals an incentive to come forward: should they do so willingly and in some reasonable time-frame – we would guarantee them first consideration by the state department to return legally.

"Those we have to go find and arrest … well, they go to the very end of the line.

"While that is happening, we need to greatly streamline our guest worker program, particularly for the agricultural sector. Farmers wishing to hire workers should be able to do so in a straight-forward, fairly simple manner.

"Agriculture is, after all, the backbone of our state’s economy. We have to pay attention to its legitimate needs.

"My fellow Idahoans – despite what you may be hearing out there, Raul Labrador is not “soft” on illegal immigration."

"It sounds so good, and it's such a warm message to say we're not gonna deny anyone from a preexisting condition," Huckabee explained at the Value Voters Summit today. "Look, I think that sounds terrific, but I want to ask you something from a common sense perspective. Suppose we applied that principle [to] our property insurance. And you can call your insurance agent and say, "I'd like to buy some insurance for my house." He'd say, "Tell me about your house." "Well sir, it burned down yesterday, but I'd like to insure it today." And he'll say "I'm sorry, but we can't insure it after it's already burned." Well, no preexisting conditions."

So the Republican Candidate has come out against providing a way for undocumented immigrants, who are currently in the country, while he actually has operated a business that works to let them stay here.

That makes him a hypocrite; and now the Democrat's attack makes more sense.

Greg. You should have done some research on where both candidates stood on the issue, before creating the thread.

speaking of demagoguery, take a look at this:
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How very Christian of you, Mike.

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One of the key arguments that liberals made in favor of the nonsense that is Obamacare was that certain people were being irresponsible because they weren't buying insurance.

Mike Huckabee is pointing out exactly how the process would work. Why would I pay premiums all my life if I knew that most of the money spent on health care during my life time occurs during the last 20% of my days on earth?

hence the unconstitutional co ercion found in Obamacare.

And what does Christ or his teachings have to do with Obama care? Simple answer, nothing. The liberals are just trying to use incense and mirrors to cloak their statist procilivities in the chasuble of christianity. Won't work. There is nothing particularly christian about supporting failured government transfer payment programs.

These people that call themselves our "leaders" have no principles, no respect for our liberties and no respect for our intelligence. They'll say ANYTHING and do ANYTHING to obtain or retain power.

Do you want to know how much the "establishment" parties actually care about your rights and those of your fellow citizens? Just look at the NYC Mosque and Jones' proposed Koran burning.

In both cases, there are plenty of people on EITHER side who seem to think being "offended" somehow gives them license to abrogate the rights of their fellow citizens. They'd don't care a WHIT for our Constitution and the personal freedom of thought and action that have made this nation great. They will, and do, betray them in a heartbeat, the very SECOND there's something to be had by doing so.

The Republicans pretend they support religious freedom but instead they try to use the courts to force their "faith" down our throats and some even advocate that Imam Rauf be LEGALLY PREVENTED from building his Mosque.

The Democrats, well, I don't even know what's happened to them. Long ago, I used to think of myself as sort of a 'liberal' because I believe freedom of speech is our most important liberty and liberals, or at least the people we used to call liberals, used to stand up against censorship and the muzzling of their fellow citizens' rights EVEN WHEN THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY THOSE RIGHTS WERE BEING USED. Not anymore, apparently. Now a lot of lefties, including some other posters, seem to think that people are to be denied their right to peaceful expression because SOMEONE ELSE (religious fanatic, at that) might use that PEACEFUL expression as an excuse for criminal violence.

When it comes to telling me what I'm "allowed" to do and think and say, the modern 'liberal' is AT LEAST as bad as the modern 'conservative'. When it comes to telling me how to vote, I'm not going to listen to either of them any longer. When enough of us stop doing so, maybe we'll actually see some REAL change instead of trading in one gang of criminals idiots for another and then switching back and forth every few years. It's not helping any of us.

Great, finally a Democrat we could support. Never seen a measure that was to harsh on ILLEGAL Aliens. We need to make it unbearable to be here without proper documentation and a written contractual invitation for some reason to be here.

Any illegal alien who can manage to meet the minimum requirements to graduate from high school or get an equivalent degree meets the first test.

No. 2: Primarily NOT teens or college students.

The Senate DREAM bill allows you to be up to 35 years old!

The House bill has no upper limit.

No. 3: Don't have to have come when a child.

An illegal alien can get this amnesty even if he didn't arrive in the U.S. until age 15. That's right -- he can spend his first 15 years learning the language and culture of his home country and developing all kinds of ties there and then come to the U.S. and later claim need for a DREAM amnesty because he supposedly has no country to go back to.

I was on a national Hispanic cable TV show last week on which a videotaped profile was run of a well-heeled-looking woman from another country bragging in front of New York City scenery that a few years ago she had illegally overstayed her tourist visa when her son was 15 so he could go to a U.S. college and pursue a U.S. career. DREAM would reward her and all the rest of people in the world who might think like her.

No. 4: Bill is open to gigantic fraud.

The bill is written so that the 2, 3 or 4 million illegal-alien applicants only have to CLAIM to meet the criteria. They don't have to PROVE anything.

The government has to build a case, one illegal at a time, and prove the claims on the application are false in order for the illegal alien to lose the amnesty. Can you imagine how many times that is likely to happen?

No. 5: DREAM does nothing to stop the behavior that put teenagers into their situation. It leaves the jobs magnet in place.

This amnesty has no enforcement measures at all. It allows employers to continue to hire illegal aliens, enticing millions more parents to bring their children here illegally and stay long enough for them to become high school students and demand another amnesty in a few years.

No. 6: DREAM leaves intact the chain migration system that will allow these 2.1 million illegal aliens to eventually send for millions more relatives.

Rather quickly, the amnestied illegal aliens would be able to get green cards for their parents. And millions of additional relatives would be able to start planning their applications and getting in line. This starts with adult siblings and moves on to aunts, uncles, cousins, etc.

A large percentage of the illegal aliens in the U.S. today are extended family members of the illegal aliens who got amnesty in 1986 and also those in the six more-limited amnesties in the 1990s.

With 15 million Americans OUT-OF-WORK--forcing Amnesty into the people's faces is political suicide. If this bill is passed it leaves intact the “chain migration system” that will permit these 2.1 million illegal aliens, to eventually send for millions more relatives. The ominous DREAM ACT leaves intact the chain migration system that will allow these 2.1 million illegal aliens to ultimately send for millions more relatives.
Because of this emergency in warning patriotic Americans this is the statement of Roy Beck, President of Numbersusa pro-sovereignty organization. In his words it outlines the invisible dangers of this obvious deceptive attachment to the De fence appropriations bill--NEXT WEEK.

If a mass amnesty is passed by the Democrats, how are they going to pay for the 18 million people to be processed --TAXPAYERS? How are they going to enforce the rush by millions for the border, or a one-way-plane-ticket, aware that this Amnesty is going to be signed--or the next million or those who come after?
Vent your anger on the phone lines to Washington and your Senator and Congressman at 202-224-3121.

ABC quoted me as saying that there is no question that many of the teenagers who would get an amnesty through the DREAM Act make for "compelling" cases. But I'm also quoted saying that this DREAM amnesty should not be passed.

If the DREAM Act were actually limited to the PR rhetoric that comes out of the pro-amnesty organizations, there might be reason for a debate.

If you barely paid attention, you would think this amnesty is just about illegal aliens who are high school valedictorian

Even If You Favor Amnesty For Some Illegal Teens, This DREAM Act Must Be Stopped

Those of us who are being taxed to pay for all the illegal aliens, who have managed to steal into this country need to read this summary of politicians who have adopted--forcing through any kind of Path to Citizenship. If you think it's not going to cost any money to process President Obama's Immigration Reform package--think again. To process the millions already here, the dollar figures will be in the billions? The government will certainly retain immigration attorneys to aid in this monolithic action, which will undoubtedly end up with massive fraud--as it is now with the six stealth amnesties already passed, without public notice. The DREAM ACT BILL, is a last ditch effort by pro-amnesty incumbent Senator Harry Reid to save his job.

It seems that Obama and his Senate are trying to pass any form of Amesty--by any means, when 15 million US workers are slogging the streets, looking for work. More than half of Nevadans think undocumented immigrants are taking jobs away from Nevada citizens, a recent Las Vegas Review-Journal poll showed. Angle's ad blasts Reid for voting to give "special tax breaks to illegal aliens" and to give those Social Security benefits "even for the time they were here in public welfare benefits? It was $62 million dollars in just July for Los Angeles County, California.

The narrative is that the Democrats are in grave danger of loosing it hold on the house and the Senate. First, which happens often, when a party win the Wh they seem to lose the House or both, its been that way for awhile. However, since the Democrats have gained both chambers during the Bush era and a Democrat was elected, history may repeat itself. But, the Democrats are in a better position to keep both chambers once the general elections kicks off. The reason will be the TP and once people see these right wing ultra conservatives, they will run back to the center with their votes even if the center lean partially left.

Immigration attorneys exist to help people who want to legal enter the United States. Hence they are using the legal system. I applaud anyone who wants to legally immigrate and follows our laws to do so, and welcome them if they are successful.

this idiot is a life long republican hell he was on nixons staff or administration. a one termer rode in on the obama wave,like all large waves trash rolls in on the beach eventually it leaves.so too shall this next wave of trash.

The Have Nots always vote for Democrats! Hands down. The dems are a party of Haves at the top and have nots and wanting more at the bottom. There is more democrat wealth in Senate and Congress than repub. So much for being for the little guy! The new litte guy is the ILLEGAL.

The Have Nots always vote for Democrats! Hands down. The dems are a party of Haves at the top and have nots and wanting more at the bottom. There is more democrat wealth in Senate and Congress than repub. So much for being for the little guy! The new litte guy is the ILLEGAL.

What a joke, Liam. So it's hypocritical to work as an attorney helping people immigrate legally and also oppose illegal immigration? Since when? Oh, right, when you're of subpar intelligence, all immigrants are the same.

I do legal work helping legal immigrants all the time. They're here legally. I don't do legal work for illegal immigrants. They're not here legally. See the difference?

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