Meanwhile, 3rd District Rep. Brian Baird has moved tonight’s town hall to a new location: Washington Center for the Performing Arts, 512 Washington St. SE in Olympia. It will run from 7 to 9 p.m.

Personally I hope Hedrick does run for Congress, and appears at forums and debates. Hard to say what the reaction might be from the two announced Republican candidates, David Castillo and Jon Russell. What’s also not known is what party Hedrick might ultimately decide to list, as his place-holder site doesn’t specify.

If Hedrick has the right stuff, he’ll do well. If not, he’ll quickly find out it’s not quite as easy as yelling into a microphone for three minutes and having someone put up a YouTube video so the right wing noise machine can fluff it.

People will want to know all sorts of stuff about the views a candidate holds. Fifteen minutes only lasts, well, about fifteen minutes.

UPDATE 8:48 PM– A friend of mine at the town hall tonight in Olympia reports that Hedrick did indeed show up, and apparently asked Baird to read the 10th Amendment from the Constitution. Hedrick wanted to know where in the Constitution it says Congress can oversee health care reform, or words to that effect.

Baird’s response, according to my friend, was to read the amendment for the crowd and point out different people (ed note-like perhaps the Supreme Court?) interpret it differently, and pointed out to Hedrick the Constitution also says nothing about veteran’s health care.

My friend reports Hedrick’s face “went dead” and he had nothing else to say, and that Hedrick left a short while later.

My friend is not a reporter, nor a blogger, so I’ll be interested to see how the traditional media reports this exchange.

Still no word, official or otherwise, if Hedrick really intends to run for Congress.

UPDATE TWO–9:21 PM–Brad Shannon of The Olympian has this initial nugget in a breaking news post.

One man who said he is a U.S. Marine from Camas insisted that reforms such as House Resolution 3200 are unconstitutional. He said, when quizzed by Baird, that he also believes Medicare is unconstitutional.

Well, okay. As one commenter at The Olympian put it, you’d think that if Medicare is actually unconstitutional, someone would have proven it in a court of law by now.

UPDATE THREE–9:57 PM– A fuller account comes from Brad Shannon of The Olympian, via the News-Tribune:

Baird took a more conciliatory approach in his evening event, and although a few critics got heated in their remarks, Baird urged the audience not to interrupt and to let speakers have their say – including David William Hedrick, who questioned the legality of the reforms.

Hedrick, who said he was a U.S. Marine from Camas, said members of Congress “have no right” to mandate coverage, and he challenged Baird to pull out his pocket copy of the U.S. Constitution, then read from Article 10, which Baird did.

Baird said there is much debate but many scholars believe Medicare and similar programs are within the scope of the Congress’ powers. “You are not the only person who gets to interpret the Constitution, sir,’’ Baird added.

I don’t know about that district down there but sure let them get the kind of government they deserve just like the 8th deserves Dave Reichert. If they’re silly enough to put a dumb townhall screamer like that into public office, fine, all the power to them.

Of course the real tragedy, as always, will be if good people (with some brains) do nothing.

Cynical @ 3
You must be kidding. Since when has rude screaming been considered a positive attribute in a congressional candidate? Don’t you think that our political environment includes enough screaming already? If it doesn’t, then God help us.

I just listened to his rant at the town hall. “National Socialists” Sigh! He’s been drinking the doughy pantload’s liberal-fascist Kool-Aid. He’s lucky he doesn’t have to sort through the Canadian political party names. It might make his head explode. If he, Palin and Joe the Plumber are the future of the Republican party, then good luck with that. If they’re the future of America, then God save us all.

The I-5 shooter is a 31-year-old convicted robber. According to KING 5 News, “Items found in [his] camp included an AK-47 and ammunition, a samurai sword, a martial arts manual, fireworks, cell phones, sleeping bags and piles of books, which included … a book on how to pick up women.” Yeah, there’s nothing like popping off AK-47 rounds at a freeway to get women to fall for you!

Speaking as someone who lives there, the district is a real mixed bag. You’ve got a lot of uber-liberal folks in the Olympia area, but the further out into the brush you go, the more the hard-core right-wingers come out of the woodwork. Lots of logging-culture remnants still around. Anyone who represents the district has to be watching both flanks all the time; I suspect that -very- few people are genuinely happy with Baird.

Here Pelletizer is a video you can understand…Chicago liberal Dummocrapts chasing a liberal Dummocrapt city council member to her car. Well at least she didn’t park in handicapped. And she drives a foreign job!

Puddy,
Outrage at nonsense is appropriate. Passion is necessary at times. There is nothing in the Maxine Waters link that I accessed that was inappropriate or even close to screaming. As usual, your links fail to support your claims. Christ, as you’ll remember, got pretty pissed at the money changers (Republican lenders like Money Tree) in the temple. Hedrick has only outrage, unguided outrage, and now people in your party think that qualifies him for Congress. Take a look at Congresswoman Waters’ background and compare it to Hedrick’s, then tell me who should be in Congress. Puddy, you really should be smarter than you are.

So having someone who went to war and got injured fighting for his country vs Maxine, a teacher.

From WikiPedia on good ol Maxine…

“Following a 1996 San Jose Mercury article alleging the complicity of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in the Los Angeles crack epidemic of the 1980s, Waters called for an investigation into the matter. In her request, Waters asked whether “U.S.-government paid or organized operatives smuggled, transported and sold it to American citizens.”[3] The United States Department of Justice (DOJ) announced it had failed to find any evidence to support the original story.[4] The Los Angeles Times also concluded after its own extensive investigation that the allegations were not supported by evidence.[5] The author of the original story was eventually transferred to a different beat and removed from investigative reporting.[6] Following these post-publication investigations, Waters read into the Congressional Record a memorandum of understanding in which former President Ronald Reagan’s CIA director rejected any duty by the CIA to report illegal narcotics trafficking to the Department of Justice.[7][8]”

And David Scott attacking one of his own? Telling…

Yep, it figgers it goes right over your pointy tin-foil coated pate. Receiving the latest broadcast from TPM, Daily Kooks and DNC?

Hey Pud,
Any chance you might share with me what your point is? I will admit that the left engages in the irrational from time to time. Will you admit that your side does? We need people like Maxine Waters in Congress:

“Maxine Waters was born in St. Louis, Missouri, the fifth of 13 children reared by a single mother. She began working at age 13 in factories and segregated restaurants. After moving to Los Angeles, she worked in garment factories and at the telephone company. She attended California State University at Los Angeles, where she earned a Bachelor of Arts degree. She began her career in public service as a teacher and a volunteer coordinator in the Head Start program.” [From her website]

She is smart and tells people where the bodies are buried. Has she been intemperate at times? Most certainly. Nonetheless, I still want her representing the south central congressional district of LA. She, unlike you, Puddy, stands up for the downtrodden. She is not a hater, like Hedrick.

Proud, it was your point. Did you have an one hour libtardo memory disease attack? Then you admit to Dummocraptic irrationality and intemperance. Good for you. You are being honest for once. Puddy readily accepts this attitudinal change.

Yep, she smartly told the world socialism is coming… “”Guess what this liberal will be all about, this liberal will be all about socializing…[some unintelligent rumbings] taking over and the government running all of your companies.”

When confronted about no drug CIA complicity she puts crap into the record to cover her idiocy.

You forgot that Waters was included by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (“CREW”) among its 2005 list of the thirteen “Most Corrupt Members of Congress” list[19] and on the 2006 list[20] for “her exercise of this power to financially benefit her daughter, husband and son.”

You also forgot Puddy’s favrit site Citizens Against Government Waste named her the June 2009 Porker of the Month due to her intention to obtain an earmark for the Maxine Waters Employment Preparation Center.

So much for her Dummocraptic irrationality and intemperance outbursts. Maybe not a “hater” but the standard Dummocraptic “user” of power.

Hmmm…lessee here. Where in the Constitution does it say anything about government involvement in provisioning (or the regulation thereof) of:

Electric power?

The supply of clean water to residences and businesses?

The disposal of sewage?

Telecommunications services?

Radio and television broadcasting?

Aircraft traffic?

Seems rather that the framers of the Constitution didn’t quite anticipate those issues. Was it wrong for government to get involved? Anyone interested in seeing what would happen if government just…er, butted out of those things for a while?

In fact, we kinda-sorta tried that with electric power. The result was that fiasco called “Enron”. Betcha letting all those airplanes try and get around on their own would be even more fun…

@14- Your response to PL is ridiculous. On more than one occasion, a conservative like Joe the Plumber or now this Marine, makes some public rant, the video makes the rounds, and conservatives stand and applaud like he’s some sort of senior statesman. You counter those examples of political insanity, in which anonymous kooks are celebrated by their party, with a video of a Democratic politician losing his temper. Sorry, but that’s not equivalent. Where are the follow-up guest visits on all those “liberal” teevee networks? Where are the adoring mobs? PL’s question was “Since when has rude screaming been considered a positive attribute in a congressional candidate?”; and you didn’t “deliver;” it was more like a swing and a miss.

doggril hates when the common man confronts erected leaders over their positions. doggril hates it when a non-Republican doctor constituent confronts his congressman and the congressman loses it. Regarding Joe, “the messiah” confronted him remember? doggril wants everyone to bow down to their congressperson and say yes’m!

AF @ 22
You are, of course, correct. The Constitution, like the Bible, is flexible, within bounds. Both have timeless commands; yet, both anticipate that the future might be different than what their texts provide. The New Testament trumps the Old, and the Constitution provides for amendments, ten of which form our Bill of Rights. The wingies, nonetheless, want to talk about original intent when it comes to interpreting the Constitution. Yikes. Does the nonsense never end?

25 – This boastful fiend always brings up Katrina and yet he often leaves out that he spewed hate about Ha.org commenters to the people down there on a FEMA computer or something like that, at least so goes his story.

Like in the case of MWS, this story of Katrina charity is probably total bullshit.

I like the way Rep. Inslee handled the Republican mob at his townhall in Edmonds on Sunday. He apologized to the audience for “the rude behavior of a few.” He debunked their bullshit with figures and pie charts on the overhead projector. (He obviously was ready for them.) He wasn’t cowed and he didn’t back down. He played like a linebacker, and those fuckers left the gymnaisum knowing they’d been tackled.

@38 Oh, Iraq and Afghanistan are now Obama’s wars, don’cha know? He’s the pressy-dent and the big bad “democrat party” run Congress, so it’s all their fault. And golly gee-whiz…all those soldiers coming home dead or all busted up, who we weren’t even supposed to know about until January 20th (except that we were supposed to be, uh, supporting them)…well, now it’s all about the shaaaaame and the horrrrror and how it’s because of the goddamn war-mongering liberals….

I was not amazed by Brian Baird’s comments as I have heard him make this argument before. What your “friend” noticed on my face was not what you think. It did not go dead. The rules of the event were clear. Audience members who are selected to speak have 3 minutes to make a statement and/or ask a question. Then Brian Baird has 3 minutes to respond.

Brian Baird knows that creating a government health care entitlement program has nothing to do with the regulation of commerce between states. If it does, the power of the Federal Government is limitless because it could apply to anything and everything. If that is the case, why did our founders bother writing the rest of the Constitution? The fact is, liberals have been abusing this clause for many years and taking advantage of the apathy of voters and a complicit judiciary. What’s next? Will Brian Baird claim that the second amendment gives us all the right to free ice cream on Thursdays? This would be just as absurd. What’s more, he knows it, but is relying on the hope that the average American voter doesn’t.

What your friend noticed on my face was the realization that Baird had just told this lie and the rules of the event would not allow me to respond. I did not want to show how much I wanted to grab that mike and expose his deception. In a debate, he would not and perhaps will not, get the protections built into the format he designed. In a debate, I will respond to his lies with truth. In a debate Brian Baird is not guaranteed the last word and his deception will be exposed.

Our freedoms guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution will survive the night.

David–
The confusion created by the likes of Baird are a smokescreen and cover in case things go sour (like they are).

God Bless you sir.
Keep up the strong fight.
There are plenty of soldiers fighting this Socialistic takeover of America with you!

Obama is clearly a fan of 6-time Socialist Party Presidential Candidate Norman Thomas who preached incrementalism and wasn’t she about defining the objective when he said:

“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.”
– Norman Thomas

Yes, you betcha Puddy did. When have you spent your funds helping your fellow man spongebob wondermoron? Puddy has challenged you spongebob wondermoron and you’ve never spoken up. Tells much about spongebob wondermoron.

Yes, Puddy was on the FEMA computers answering to your spongebob wondermoron worthless horseSHIT, almost everyday Puddy was down there. They were free to use and it’s still a free country. Instead of saying “Mike Brown screwed the pooch, let me see what I can do”, you HA Libtardos sat on your fat ASSes doing absolutely nuthin. When they were suggesting taking in some N’awlins peeps into your home you went quiet spongebob wondermoron. Goldy can review the saved messages and he can tell you Puddy was there. Puddy has the pictures spongebob wondermoron fool to show you and your moronic twits all the damage. As for the montana sheep abuser@41, Puddy has a standing bet Puddy gives more to charity then 5 to 10 HA Libtardo moonbats here. No one wants to take Puddy up on the challenge, because you’ll be embarrASSed!

BTW Puddy even has pictures of the gaz guzzlin Sedan De Ville Puddy rented because it had a big enough trunk for our suitcases.

One more thing. I did leave a short while later as your friend said. Those who were at the event, likely noticed that my wife and I had our three month old little girl with us. The baby was hungry and due to the hostile crowd and threats we have already received, I was not going to let my wife leave the venue to feed her alone. Once the baby was taken care of we spoke with a friend still inside by phone who notified us that the event had descended into a Bush bashing forum, so there was little value in returning.

49 – You’re a total phony Stupes. Let’s give you the benefit of the doubt that you DID go down there. After MWS I don’t know why but let’s go ahead anyway.

I thought you went down there for THEM. For the people you were supposed to help. Calling up HA.org on a taxpayer funded computer and internet connection to do your hate on act isn’t helping them – it’s all about YOU!

So you needed a few moments to unwind. How about reading the good book? Or sharing family photos? Or playing a few freaking hands of Rummy? No, you need hate and self-inflation to unwind.

I don’t take your orders for a pissing match on who’s done more for the poor. You’re a fraud. You’re a phony. You’re a hater. You’re a FIEND..

Call up the friends you made down there in NOLA. Bring ‘em here! I’ll show them MWS, your “nympho sluts” explosion, your “Bob of Encyte” fantasy and plenty of other batshit insanity. We won’t have a hate fest of any kind.

We’ll have a TRUTH fest. The kind you fear the most! Go ahead – make my day!

So! Just a question, asswipes…why bother arguing with the likes of you? What purpose? You bring standard-issue wing-nut propaganda (not even the extra-special secret sauce kind)over here and expect us to believe you. We check facts and prove you wrong and you obfuscate, weasel and outright lie to prove you didn’t say what you clearly said.

I can do all the googling and cutting and pasting and fight with you clowns till the rest of my hair falls out (because I HAVE) but…why???

You…both of you HATE…DETEST…democracy. That the people spoke and repudiated your failed ideas just galls you to no end doesn’t it? You believe in forcing your idea of governmental, social and religious philosophy down everyone’s throat. That’s ALL you have left. Your loser party is well…LOSERS! There is no room in your world for another opinion, there is no room for religious, cultural, or philosophical diversity. This is a narrow and exceptionally self-centered, self absorbed and immature way to live. You will not debate, you will not concede. NOT AN INCH.

This is not the American Ideal. You desire fascism…nothing less for you all will suffice. Total religious and corporate control of government and society.

So FUCK NO…I should ENGAGE you morons? When I know for a dead solid certain FACT what your answer…your come back…your riposte is going to be? Goddess bless Darryl and Roger and YLB and Steve and all the great guys and gals here for smacking you idiots around. It is sooo much fun to watch…

I loved my analogy about the sports teams…football teams if you recall…the “puddybuddy” (STILL the wienie-est handle EVERRRR) as The College of William and Mary and Roger Rabbit as the UHHHH…New England Patriots. The most precious thing about the pudster is that he really believes that he gets over on the Rabbit, Darryl, Steve, YLB, correctnotright, or anybody else…even ME for christ’s sake. The cyniklown is just pathetic.

Oh well…like darryl says…watching trainwreck trolls beats watching trainwreck reality tv. We get to participate here, that would be the difference.

Puddy–
YLB and Rujax have finally done it!!
They officially entered THE TWILIGHT ZONE!
I can hear the theme song in the background as they post…with Rod Serling telling us how ridiculous they both are because of self-abuse.

So David have you boycotted Canadian oil and gas yet? We import more oil and gas from Canada than from any other country.

Think: every time you gas up your vehicle or turn up the thermostat to keep your child warm, YOU are supporting a marxist, totalitarian system of health care they have up there in Canada.

But there’s even a GREATER EVIL you support. The Canada system is just socialized health insurance.

With your federal taxes YOU SUPPORT the VA Health Care System for which Obama has just upped support. The government actually OWNS the hospitals. THEY EMPLOY the doctors! That’s total socialism.

When you go to Congress, make sure to agitate for an invasion of Canada and privatizing the VA Health Care system.

Should go over just as well as when say Bush tried to “reform” Social Security.

and David, like any good American, I appreciate and thank you for your service to our country. I just don’t happen to care much for your politics and I believe your intellect leaves a little to be desired. If I lived down in your district, I would not support you for public office. In fact I’d work to keep you out. Have a great life.

David–
Having YLB question your “intellect” is our own little Badge of Honor around here.
YLB has told us for many years that he is “between jobs”.
I kinda hurt his feelings when I remind him that to be “between jobs” actually required that he ever had a job to begin with to be “between”.
Isn’t it great to have someone like YLB thank you for your service and in the next sentence question your intellect??

YLB is the posterboy for the loyal opposition.
Not much to worry about, is there.

Wow, I was there you are still lying.
The crowed was only mildly hostile to you until you claimed we had all been bussed in, a clear lie. Then everyone got very hostile towards you, but never violent nor did you receive any threats. People booed your lies and unhinged anger. You were never stopped from talking and you were stopped when Baird asked if Medicare was an illegal program. It was clear you had no idea how to respond, we all saw.

David really should expand on this bus thing. He infers much, but what was the reality? Was there some local church bus there that brought a bunch of little old ladies? Perhaps the parking lot was full of SEIU buses bringing hoardes of sinister looking commie-fascists from Fremont? Tell us about it, David.

Ya know…the Wash. State GOP Party Party (is that the party of the first part, or the party of the second part…I get confused) hasn’t had the looney-tooney Bachmann-esque representation since the Craswells croaked.

Notice how spongebob wondermoron goes NUTZO when called on his hatred for his fellow man? Puddy challenged him to provide evidence of his charitable giving.

*** crickets chirping ***

Puddy challenged him to provide evidence of his personal help of his fellow man/woman

*** zzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz ***

The man is a loser of the first degree.

LMBBAO. Say that again.. LMBBAO Once more Puddy… LMBBAO

Puddy will say it again squarepants wondermoron so you can go apoplectic monomaniacal chronological idiot. You betcha Puddy was commenting on the losers back in WA State while in Katrinaland. Yep you all were farting in your home barcaloungers, smelling up your living rooms while the Puddy Family was helping those who were homeless, who were lacking in food, who were lacking in clothing, etc., working from just past sunup until sunset. In fact spongebob wondermoron we all know you never lifted a finger yet you and your HA ilk complained, complained, complained about the government response while your response was MISSING IN ACTION.

And this squarepants wondermoron calls Puddy a fiend when his actions prove beyond a shadow of a doubt who the real fiend is here. spongebob wondermoron squarepants.

Mr. Hedrick seems like an intelligent guy. Which makes me wonder why he comes across as a raving lunatic.

It would appear as if Mr. Hedrick is working out some pretty extensive personal problems on the rest of us. Why take responsibility for your own failings when you can blame a Congressman, and a massive Socialist/Fascist conspiracy.

If Hedrick decides he ain’t gonna run, it will probably have something to do with a pregnant 22 yo girl and a long, messy divorce.

The irony should be good: Hedrick’s messed up personal life led to 15 minutes of fame; and the same mess ends up relegating him back to Freeper militia nut obscurity.

Raising an army and providing for their pay and benefits, including veterans benefits, is in the Constitution under “provide for the common defense” Evidently neither Baird nor Jon DeVore understand that.

Raising an army and providing for their pay and benefits, including veterans benefits, is in the Constitution under “provide for the common defense” Evidently neither Baird nor Jon DeVore understand that.

Ok fine. Now let’s see if there’s support for letting United Health Care insure Vets.

Why spongebob wondermoron squarepants? So you can figger out who Puddy is? Why don’t you first post your real email address here so we can see if you are a real person? Then the Tennesseans, Illinoisans, Californians who were there that week can see the blatant stupidity of the one aptly named spongebob wondermoron squarepants, the monomaniacal chronological idiot!

And finding a little time to hate others on-line.

Nope you dope. That wasn’t hate. You are HATE pure and simple. You hate giving a dime of your own money. You hate leaving your dung heap to help someone. You hate here on HA Libtardos every day. Identifying armchair libtardos who scream and shout from their barcaloungers but do nothing on their own isn’t hate, it’s telling the truth fool.

YES YOU DOPE!!! You bragged you were showing them what a wonderful guy you are compared to HA.org commenters. You could have been helping them. You could done dozens of other things. You CHOSE to act superior and holier than thou!

And what??? I’m supposed a LURVE people who support dumbass chimp style governing, support torture, support wars of choice so idiots can cheer from their barcaloungers? Who let the economy tank totally for the greed of a few?

“If Hedrick decides he ain’t gonna run, it will probably have something to do with a pregnant 22 yo girl and a long, messy divorce.”

Freddy @75: it’s freaking Camas, the land of Libertardian tax cheats and conservative moochers. No sales tax in Oregon, and no income tax in WA = every backwoods constitutionalist hillbilly’s dream.

John Pennington used to represent this backwater. He got elected on a pro-family platform in 1994, aided by black helicopter militia crowd (Puddy and Cynical’s idea of “good people). Then, he got into a messy divorce fueled by domestic abuse. Then, he became Region 10 FEMA Administrator, the exact branch of big guvernmint he and his militia buddies hated so much.

If puddlehead can see into the future, it’s because of some gadget he furtively put in his pocket while he was held prisoner aboard the UFO that plucked him out of a Nebraska cornfield a few years ago.

I’m not concerned with the guy’s personal life; it’s his “creative” constitutional theories that worry me. If the interstate commerce clause doesn’t cover transactions that cross state boundaries and are commercial in nature – as he seems to believe – it is meaningless.

I’m not fond of pretending that portions of the constitution don’t exist simply because I don’t like how they’re being used at a particular point in time.

Bob Knows @ 76,

The portion about providing for the “common defence” is in the preamble, which is not legally binding, but your argument does leave you open to “promote the general welfare” replies.

As for your claims about Congress’ ability to provide veteran benefits, they are at best arguable, as this is the relevant portion of Article I, Section 8:

[Congress has the power…]

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;…

There’s actually nothing in there addressing post-service medical care or other benefits. Unless you find it somewhere else in the Constitution (as I do), your argument doesn’t hold up.

Huh! Yeah progressive have come with some great names for batshit insane right wing idiots: birthers (idiots like Joe Farrah who fall for practical jokes in phony documents), deathers (seeing death panels everywhere they see Barack Obama with a Hitler mustache, i.e. everywhere) and now tenthers fighting the same losing battle they fought in FDR’s time despite legions of right wing judges and Federalist society hack lawyers that have come since those times.

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