Rap was around long before 1981's Rapture, @Billy Rhythm. Most often cited is Rapper's Delight by the Sugarhill Gang, released in September 1979, which reached #36 on the Billboard chart and #3 in the UK. Predating it by a few months, being released in March 1979, is King Tim III (Personality Jock) by The Fatback Band. Originally released as the b-side of You're My Candy Sweet (which reached #67 on the Billboard R&B chart). Flipping the single and promoting King Tim III saw it reach #26 on the R&B chart. Rapture was merely the first time this emerging African-American form was utilised by a mainstream white artist.

Thanks for the history lesson there, but it doesn't change the fact that "'RAPture' IS "the first "modern rap" song"... You could even go farther back to Aerosmith's 'Walk This Way' if we're talking about where it started... Kinda like Pizza... The Italians invented it but it was the Americans who revolutionized it... Deborah Harry revolutionized rap... they even took the name from the song... Elvis didn't invent Rock 'N' Roll
either but was the first to modernize it... I know that that's a hard one for many to swallow but it was a woman who first delivered rap to the masses...:-)

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Billy Rhythm said
Thanks for the history lesson there, but it doesn't change the fact that "'RAPture' IS "the first "modern rap" song"... You could even go farther back to Aerosmith's 'Walk This Way' if we're talking about where it started... Kinda like Pizza... The Italians invented it but it was the Americans who revolutionized it... Deborah Harry revolutionized rap... they even took the name from the song... Elvis didn't invent Rock 'N' Roll
either but was the first to modernize it... I know that that's a hard one for many to swallow but it was a woman who first delivered rap to the masses...:-)

If a top 40 single in the US and a top 5 in the UK isn't delivering it to the masses I don't know what is. Seriously though, listen to Rapper's Delight, it is pretty clearly a modern rap song, from the sampling of a Chic bassline to the vocal style which was clearly quite influential on some of rap's greats like A Tribe Called Quest and The Notorious B.I.G.

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@Billy Rhythm, if, as you suggest, rap got it's name from the 1981 song RAPture by Blondie, how were the Sugarhill Gang calling themselves rappers, as in performers of rap, in 1979, as evidenced by the 1979 song RAPper's Delight?

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If a top 40 single in the US and a top 5 in the UK isn't delivering it to the masses I don't know what is.

How about a Number One in America for multiple weeks... BIG difference there... Rap broke out of its "underground" status after Blondie's 'Rapture'... Deborah Harry's free-stylin' and it hit Number One... Music hasn't been the same (for better or worse) since...:-)

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I just wanna say that the video on the Beatles YouTube channel is one of he weirdest things I've ever experienced.

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I just wanna say that the video on the Beatles YouTube channel is one of he weirdest things I've ever experienced.

It's so ugly, has aged terribly as well. Normally I'm a stickler for keeping to the original but I would be very happy to see Come Together
get a new video.

It's horrendous. It was also horrendous back when first issued to promote '1'. Apple burying some crap created 30 years after first release is fine by me. Could easily have dumped it on disc two for the historians and had a new video created for the first disc. Tho no doubt I'd have moaned about that. Basically Apple is crap.

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That's funny, I never got the impression you disliked Apple before, mmm.

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That's funny, I never got the impression you disliked Apple before mmm.

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Not sure if the timeline matches up, but the video looks to be an early build from the 'Rock Band' game that wasn't finished... I remember the Harmonix developers complaining how Yoko Ono had them change John's hair during development of the game because she didn't think it looked right... most puzzling that she'd agree to this one going out... it has a bit of the 'Sea of Science' feel at times and the colours match up to the 'Number Ones' compilation album, but that's about as Beatley as it gets... yikes...:-)

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I suppose you could link the go-karts back to 1963 and tea-cups to 'Lovely Rita
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@Billy Rhythm said
Not sure if the timeline matches up, but the video looks to be an early build from the 'Rock Band' game that wasn't finished.

Dhani started the interest in creating a Beatles' game in 2006 because he was such a big fan of Guitar Hero, and wanted a game where players could have the Beatles wear Sgt Pepper
costumes and play Shea Stadium. Guitar Hero wasn't released until 2005 so he might have had some cogs ticking in the back of his head in 1999-2000 but he was in college in America so I can't imagine he had much influence in Apple, especially as George was still alive.

It was 9 years between the release of this and the release of Rock Band, although it wouldn't surprise me if they looked at CT as inspiration for the initial design of the Beatle avatars in the mid-2000's.

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Has anyone ever figured out (or have any of the band revealed) how they created that sound at the beginning of Come Together
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I would guess that it's Ringo doing something; a little bit of Paul's bass action; and someone going "shtccckkkkkk" with their tongue ....

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Welcome to the forum, Choking Smoker, glad you like it and glad to have you! The very beginning bit of 'Come Together
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Welcome to the forum, Choking Smoker, glad you like it and glad to have you! The very beginning bit of 'Come Together
' consists of Ringo gently hitting cymbals, Paul playing D on bass, and (this is the tragically ironic part) John whispering 'Shoot me'.

The only thing that takes the sting away from the "shoot me" line is knowing that Lennon was talking about a heroin fix, not what he wanted someone to do to him with a revolver. Not that heroin is good, but well....well, you all know the rest of the story.

Welcome to the forum, Choking Smoker, glad you like it and glad to have you! The very beginning bit of 'Come Together
' consists of Ringo gently hitting cymbals, Paul playing D on bass, and (this is the tragically ironic part) John whispering 'Shoot me'.

I believe John is clapping his hands when he says, "shoot me". Add some echo to the hand claps and you get that cool effect.

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Welcome to the forum, Choking Smoker, glad you like it and glad to have you! The very beginning bit of 'Come Together
' consists of Ringo gently hitting cymbals, Paul playing D on bass, and (this is the tragically ironic part) John whispering 'Shoot me'.

I believe John is clapping his hands when he says, "shoot me". Add some echo to the hand claps and you get that cool effect.

He is.

You've got John doing the handclaps and the 'shoot me's , Paul playing the iconic riff, Ringo playing the iconic drum riff (first two notes have gentle ride cymbal + kick), and someone (John or George) doubling the bass riff on guitar. Such a great opening.

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