It is an interesting idea. I think than from a technique standpoint, it shows that in order to achieve real "movement" in a painting, you have to introduce either humans and/or animals.

Now, notice the difference from the ones where human dwellings appear. The humanity is still present. One can always assume that people are inside, and imagine them moving. The movement continues, in our perception, although it can not be plainly seen.

It is different in "nature" scenes. There is a definite stillness to it, loneliness, quietness.

ernie, what you say rings true. Maybe I was thinking of the point of the painting being missing, and thinking the paintings more than looking at them. Reading what you wrote, and looking at them, I am able to see them more for what they are.

One thing I appreciate about some modern and post modern art is how it makes me think. Thanks for the posts.

(1) erniecu73, it’s not me, but Palladian (and our hostess) who is/are the expert on art around here, but I know enough to say that every two-dimensional (more or less) representation of three dimensions occurs over time.

Maybe God can see everything at once . . . but I’m convinced we humans cannot.

We do our best to use that knowledge wisely.

Heh.

(Or not, what’s it to me?!?!)

(2) Bugs Bunny walks into a castle and exclaims: “Boy, it must cost plenty to heat this pile of rocks.”

Listen, there are a lot of people who will think Senator Obama's team are behind this. I don't. There are LOADS of people who want to bring down this woman. Are they more sympathetic to him than to her? Sure.

But in this particular case, I just think someone wanted to hack her email to show they could.

It's similar to the Paris Hilton T-Mobile account being hacked some time ago -- and her entire email/phone list was published on the 'net. Remember?

I hope they nail these people to the wall. Fortunately, that anchor who recently pled guilty to hacking his co-anchor's email account is on a lot of people's minds. He got 5 years.

Fox News invited an Obama surrogate to weigh in on the Palin interview (a nice touch).

She, however, was asked about what Palin said and having gotten the "stick to McCain and ignore memo" which Obama has issued after the 'lipstick on a pig' wisecracks weren't working, is simply talking of McCain.

Now, Colmes is pressing her about what Palin said in her interview.

Rep. Degette is not even addressing the interview's talking points directly, even after being pressed.

Victoria, this just underscores one of my fears about her, that is, that she is so not ready for Prime Time.

I think it's safe to say that there are foreign nationals right now trying to hack into every Candidates' email accounts. That someone succeeded getting into hers doesn't make me feel very comfortable.

As a non-government employee but still contractor, I get to take internet security tests annually. And you know what they say? It's part of my job to keep my internet accounts secure. It's part of Sarah Palin's job to keep accounts secure as well. She has failed that.

It's not part of her job -- or anyone's -- to prevent violence from being perpetrated on their body. Your rape analogy is very weak.

Chickenlittle, sure it will. To Obama supporters, and to elitists who look at Palin as being intolerably small town, and bush league? You've got to be kidding if they're not attacking her for having a Yahoo account.

I will never link to the Gawker post about this, but just check out what the commenters are saying:

Richard at 01:08 PM

I'm just amazed that they have computers in Alaska.

- Maura Johnston at 01:09 PM

of course she uses yahoo. OF COURSE.

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CodePink at 01:13 PM

@Richard: Heated igloo=computer lab

- felion at 01:14 PM

The conspiracy theorist in me says that someone in the McCain campaign hacked in, posted the password so that everyone would log in and get the site shut down and the contents deleted.

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Sure, a lot of this can be likened to our commentary here -- sometimes commets are just plain ole funny.

But don't tell me the continued scent of outright elitism, condenscension, and dismissiveness isn't present here.

These hackers are doing her a favour, if anything.

They found nothing, and we have even more ammo that they are targetting her directly, in an attempt to help out Obama.

As a non-government employee but still contractor, I get to take internet security tests annually. And you know what they say? It's part of my job to keep my internet accounts secure. It's part of Sarah Palin's job to keep accounts secure as well. She has failed that.

This is her general Yahoo account. They found absolutely nothing that was egregious, even after no doubt downloading everything.

I doubt this is where she would keep the top-secret codes to her government. Thi is just a personal email, which everyone can use to send her gripe email as Governor, or for private email of a very generalised sort.

I didn't see your outrage when Obama had to pull the plug on his entire website for a day, as the directory was open for all to access.

Remember -- the man who prides himself on being so technologically-savvy.

Ann Althouse said... "Hell, who knows about these things? I'm always looking for new stuff and I didn't see it."

Ditto. I've been kind of frustrated with the McCain campaign's almost total failure to post stuff like this on their website. Their communications department has work to do when even the folks actively seeking this information can't find it.

I think some of you are making the mistake of viewing this email account hackery through the prism of the election. Imagine if Cheney or a sitting Senator had a yahoo account that was hacked into -- but by the Chinese, or the Russians, or AQ or someone who didn't publicize their abilities. Don't kid yourself into thinking they're not trying to. I find that prospect incredibly alarming. If you do not find that prospect alarming, ask yourself why.

It doesn't matter to me that state secrets aren't compromised (that we know of, anyway). Information in any email account has the potential to be used in attempts to get into other accounts. Or to learn simple things -- like the whereabouts of a candidate or their family.

[chickenlittle, I have 4 accounts that I remember (Sorry to sound all McCainy-on-houses there). The one I miss? My anon.penet.fi account!]

I will agree with Victoria on one thing: This is a nice wake-up call for her. Hopefully the Govt IT people have had a little chat with her to cure her of any ignorance she may have had on the subject of security.

On the subject of Palin, I had to laugh at the Enquirer tonight while I was at Sentry Hilldale. There she is, headlines trumpeting about her secrets (Drugs! Kids kicked out of house!) and sharing the cover is Erik Estrada! What the heck? I wonder how hard his agent had to work to get him on the cover! Is there anyone on the cover of National Enquirer lately with less relevance?

Apologies if you're a fan of Mr. Estrada. Maybe. I mean, what is he doing? Some model had an affair with him, and I'm thinking Who Cares!?

I think some of you are making the mistake of viewing this email account hackery through the prism of the election. Imagine if Cheney or a sitting Senator had a yahoo account that was hacked into -- but by the Chinese, or the Russians, or AQ or someone who didn't publicize their abilities. Don't kid yourself into thinking they're not trying to. I find that prospect incredibly alarming. If you do not find that prospect alarming, ask yourself why.

Because the first rule of e-mail is: Don't send anything in e-mail that you don't want the world to read.

Information in any email account has the potential to be used in attempts to get into other accounts.

How so? I mean that from a literal, technical viewpoint. How does the compromising of an e-mail account compromise other e-mail accounts?

Or to learn simple things -- like the whereabouts of a candidate or their family.

See rule #1.

Besides, the candidates and their families are all pretty well tracked, aren't they? Is there any member of any candidate's family that isn't easily locatable at this point? With a casual Internet search?

blake, I'm thinking mostly of social engineering scams to trick IT people into releasing information. Break into one account and learn all you can about that individual. (Especially helpful if that person ccs themself on their various accounts). Armed with that information, it's much easier to trick IT into yielding a password.

In addition, there is a common practice of using the same password across multiple accounts. It doesn't appear from the news reports that whomever hacked in guessed the password, so they won't have a good guess of other passwords for Gov. Palin. That simplifies her life, I think, as she won't have to change her passwords now -- although as the Govt Security Quiz says, passwords are like toothbrushes! You shouldn't share them, and you should change them often!

I'm glad they hacked her Yahoo account. She and American needed another wake-up call...

I agree.

Back in May 07, when Obama was given Secret Service protection I remember thinking 'this doesn't help Hillary at all'.

You could measure the severity of the attacks on Palin by the meticulously scrupulous way Obama gets treated. So much so that John Stewart had to give his audience permission to laugh when Obama appeared to be a target.

blake, I'm thinking mostly of social engineering scams to trick IT people into releasing information.

Another embarrassment. It's bad enough when users do it, IT people should be invincible on that front.

Break into one account and learn all you can about that individual. (Especially helpful if that person ccs themself on their various accounts). Armed with that information, it's much easier to trick IT into yielding a password.

Ah, I see what you're saying. Once again, consult rule #1.

In addition, there is a common practice of using the same password across multiple accounts.

Yeah, tell me about it.

(P.S.: The co-first rule of email is: Don't use an unsecure system)

Nah. That's at best rule #2, because of its corrolary: No system is secure.

If you drive to Green Bay from Madison, you want to be really careful on Hwy 41 around Oshkosh. Speedtrap City!

I will never attend another political rally. I've been to one for Kerry in '04. I'll try anything once -- I went to court for a Parking Ticket once as well, guided by the same principle. Anyway, the rally. From an anthropological study point of view it was interesting. But very embarrassing to see grown people reacting the way they did to a politician. And crowded and noisy. Never again.

And then on the bike ride back into town (this was the one at the Coliseum), I was absolutely drenched in a downpour. And I still had to work!

McCain is dehumanizing himself and is mad at Salvador Dali's home country.

Here's a story about McCain and Spain that you won't find on the Drudge Report or in the annals of wingnuttia (incl Althousiana).

McCain is mad at Spain, apparently and thinks they're our enemies. (Or he has just lost it). He said so three in times in an interview in a Spanish language paper:

Namely, that John McCain didn't appear to know that Spain was in Europe, or that the leader of Spain was named Zapatero. This, after the interviewer told him, and I paraphrase, "Okay let's switch to Spain - would you be willing to meet with the head of our government, Mr. Zapatero." McCain then launched into this weird discussion about how friends of America are welcome, but enemies of America are not, and then he starts talking about Mexico. The reporter, obviously sensing something weird, asks him again, and again, would you be willing to meet with our president. McCain again talks about America's enemies. Finally, she says, and again I paraphrase, "Senator, I'm talking about here in Europe, in Spain, would you be willing to talk to our leader?" And McCain AGAIN starts rambling about America's enemies.

Not pretty. It gets worse at the link. I hope the right wing is not seeking payback against every country that didn't send troops to Iraq. That's crazy because that's, you know, most of the world.

Look, these two are not up to the job. Our country is in deep doo doo and we need to get some competent people in charge for a change.

very embarrassing to see grown people reacting the way they did to a politician

How true.

WOOT!

* dances *

* somersaults *

* applauds enthusiastically *

Pardon. Got carried away there. Couldn't agree more. It would be better, and a lot more funny, if everybody would clap with the back of their hands, and bark like seals do. Trained seals. That's what it reminds me of.

Arf! Arf! Arf! clapclapclapclapclap. See, isn't that funny?

Palin uses those religious phrasings that I find irritating. "Partnering," for one. I don't care for that word used in that way. It's goofy. "If we're so blessed that blah blah blah," is another one. Nobody I know is looking for a blessing -- just an ethically and successfully run campaign. But Arf! Arf! Arf! clapclapclapclapclap on you anyway.

Zapatero? He's that pussy socialist who got elected days after the Madrid train bombings, when Spaniards lost their will to fight al Qaeda. Pussies. Not at all like the Brits or the Dutch or the Poles or the rest of the coalition of the willing.McCain was just too polite to say what I just did.

One of her readers, who was checking out the hacker forums and is tech-savvy himself, revealed it.

The guy, called Rubico, said this was his motivation:

I read though the emails… ALL OF THEM… before I posted, and what I concluded was anticlimactic, there was nothing there, nothing incriminating, nothing that would derail her campaign as I had hoped, all I saw was personal stuff, some clerical stuff from when she was governor…. And pictures of her family

He passed on the hacked password to the forum, but a "White Knight" changed the password and alerted a friend of the Palin's. He stupidly posted the new PW to the forum though -- which had everyone on earth reading it logging into her account.

The Yahoo automatic login freeze came out, and later the account was deleted by Yahoo.

Not pretty. It gets worse at the link. I hope the right wing is not seeking payback against every country that didn't send troops to Iraq. That's crazy because that's, you know, most of the world.

11:51 PM

The problem with that is...Spain did send troops to Iraq in 2003. After the Madrid bombings of 2004, and their shamefull (and illegal for reasons that are obvious to those familiar with Spanish electoral law)by the PSOE, Partido Socialista Obrero Español, Zapatero's party; which got him lected, he withdrew the troops from Iraq.

Zapatero ran a very openly anti-American, anti-Aznar, anti-Bush, anti-Iraq War and anti-Azores Pact campaign. What he did between March 11th and March 13th of 2004 was just the icing on the cake.