When The Saints (& Colts) Go Marching In

The Big Game is today, or the Super Bowl, as most of us call it. Which means, it’s time to take a look back at the uniforms of the two combatants in today’s contest: the Indianapolis (nee Baltimore) Colts and the New Orleans Saints. Now wait, you’re about to say, “Didn’t Paul already do that on ESPN.com this past Thursday?” Well, yes he did, and a splendid job he did. But, having enlisted the aid of uniform historian Tim Brulia, the original Uni Watcher himself, Rick Pearson, and with several photos provided by Larry Bodnovich we’re going to take a much more in-depth look at just how closely the uniforms the two teams playing today resemble those of their predecessors, and how what they’re wearing today came to be.

Tim, as usual, has provided us with the parameters, studiously denoting all the minor (and major) changes of the teams throughout the years, while Ricko will handle the finer points of the uniform progressions. Since the New Orleans Saints are the new kids on the block, playing in their first Super Bowl (and the “younger” team in terms of service time), as well as the “designated road team” and decided underdog, we’ll take a look at them first, followed by the Colts. Let’s go!

The New Orleans Saints entered the NFL in the 1967 expansion, playing in Tulane Stadium until their current home, the Superdome, was constructed for the 1975 season. Frequently the laughing stock of the league, the Saints often sported horrible teams and frequently had fans showing up wearing bags over their heads. Frequently referred to as “The ‘Aints”, they were born wearing black and gold, and a design which has remained remarkably unchanged since it’s inception. But changes have been made over the years, often what we refer to as “tweaks” rather than wholesale revamps. Let’s see where they began, and how they got to today. Ricko and Timmy present this wonderful timeline:

From there, the Dayton Triangles relocated to Brooklyn and were renamed the “Dodgers” in 1930, (here, the Dodgers are playing the Giants in 1938) and changed the name to “Brooklyn Tigers” in 1944. In the same year, the Boston Yanks are founded. A wartime “casualty,” the Tigers merged with the Yanks in 1945 and were simply known as “The Yanks” (the Yanks player is shown at left). The franchise was cancelled in 1945 by league and the team’s “temporary” merger with the Boston Yanks was made permanent.

Back in the NFL, the Boston Yanks would relocate to New York in 1949, becoming “New York Yanks” (interestingly, they absorbed much of the AAFC Yankees’ roster the next year). Those New York Yanks, much like the Yankees, Dodgers and Tigers were unable to compete with the New York Football Giants, and moved to Dallas in 1952 where they were renamed the “Dallas Texans.” The Texans’ colors were blue and white. Unfortunately, the Texans found themselves without a stadium in which to play, about halfway through the 1952 season, and were dissolved shortly thereafter. Here’s a great shot of the Texans versus the 49ers from 1952.

What had been the “Dallas Texans” franchise (not to be confused with the later, original AFL Texans) was moved to Baltimore on January 23, 1953. The Texans couldn’t really keep that nickname upon moving to Baltimore, so they adopted the “Colts” nickname, and kept the Texans team colors of blue and white. Thus began the current Colts’ 30 year run in Baltimore, which, as we all know, ended badly. The Colts would relocate to their current home in Indianapolis in 1984, and continue playing there to this day. Now, let’s take a look at the Colts (1953-present) uniform timeline.

1953: The Colts started out with a white helmet with criss-cross blue stripes. After one game, they took the criss stripe off. They also wore a plain blue helmet for a day game and a couple of night games. The jerseys were rather generic; white had blue front/back numerals with blue NW sleeve stripes, while the blue jersey had white front/back numerals with white NW stripes. The Colts also wore for night games a plain RED jersey! Pants were white with a thin white stripe down the sides. Socks were solid blue.

OK, everyone. Hope you enjoyed this “little” lookback on how the Colts and the Saints got to where they are today, uniform wise. Now, when you attend your Super Bowl parties, you can show off your intimate knowledge of the teams — and don’t be surprised if everyone looks at you a little differently when you do.

Thanks again to Timmy, Ricko & Larry for their assistance with this monumental undertaking.

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In probably the worst kept secret in alternate jersey releases in baseball, the Tampa Bay Rays have officially offered for sale their new alternate powder blue jersey. Of course, there has been no actual official announcement yet, but it will be coming. After earlier unveiling their powder blue BP cap, (they will have both a navy and a powder blue BP cap this year), speculation quickly followed that they’d be introducing a powder blue alternate.

Is is good or stupid? Well, it’s not a bad color, but it’s unnecessary. It is my firm belief that a powder blue alternate will only look good if it’s paired powder blue pants. Now, before you dismiss the idea out of hand, here’s how that would look on the field of play. Not so bad, right?

See, I’m not ONLY a white at home/gray on road kinda guy — I just hate the softball look. There were some powder blue teams whose looks I rather enjoyed. I grew up when powder blues were not necessarily the “norm,” but they weren’t foreign either. Of course, back then, stirrups were worn and unis were properly fitted — now…they’d probably wear the powder blues like the Jays and I’d hate it. So maybe it’s best if they just keep the alt and wear it never rarely.

We won’t rehash all that here (although, feel free to comment), as Paul has done an outstanding job covering all the ins and outs of the design and thought process that went into the unis. Personally, while I love the concept and the execution, the “two tone” nature of the uniform offends my OCD. I “get” why they’re green, gold and purple. I understand the colors and accoutrements and the beads and masks and costumes and general licentiousness and drunken debauchery that goes into all these uniforms stand for. I really do.

I just don’t like two three-toned uniforms. I can overlook this, because of the spirit of the holiday, however. But just how awesome would the uni still have been if they just went with one color or the other?

Guess The Game From The Scoreboard: Today we have a ‘guest’ scoreboard being brought to us by reader Chris Rocco. While the location may be familiar, the clues are all right there in the picture itself. Ready? Guess The Game From The Scoreboard. Date, location and final score, please, and be sure to link to your answer. And, as always, if you enjoy the game, please send me some new scoreboards! Drop me a line. Thanks!

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As if you needed another reason to watch the Super Bowl, now you do:

As you all know (or should), the Who will be performing the halftime show. In the comments below, the first person to correctly name each song in the correct order the Who play today will win a prize. So, make sure you post your guesses — if someone has already made a guess — be sure to post a different one, ok? Remember, it’s the first person who identifies EACH song played and in the EXACT order.

I have a whole bunch of uni-related materials lying about the place, and I’m itching to give something away (the prize is as yet undetermined). So, take a guess, and maybe you’ll walk away with something cool. Or not. But you gotta be in it to win it.

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Back again with more Uniform Tweaks, Concepts and Revisions today. Taking a look at all sports from here on out, so, if you have a tweak, change or concept for any sport, send them my way.

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First up is Tom Dempsey(!) who was inspired by the Pro Bowl piece last Sunday, with some Pro Bowl unis:

Hey there,

I was inspired by your column about the Pro Bowl unis and decided to give them a shot. Both have the conferences primary colors with the contrasting color as the secondary, so the game would be color on color. I also added some gold piping to represent the special meaning of being chosen to play in the pro bowl. On the pants, the colors are reversed for each team.

Hope you enjoy,

Tom

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Next up is James Comfort, who has some revisions for the Packers, Bills and Panthers:

For my first batch of uni tweaks i started with my favorite team, the Packers. Their uniform is, in my opinion, the best in the league. But I’ve always wondered what it would like like with metallic gold. Home. Road.

Next to tackle the second worst uni in the NFL – the Bills. I went with a modern uni, but still very clean and free of bumper stickers. Home. Road. Alternate.

Then the Panthers, whose uniforms are very nice, but just nice. And they’ve remained unchanged for a long time. Not a big fan of the silver, so I took it out. The NFL needs a team with a powder blue helmet. Home. Road. Alternate.

Much more where that came from, including a makeover for the Browns and Bengals, as well as a new and different approach to the Cowboys. Stay tuned!

-James Comfort

Moving along, we have some MLB tweaks from Dennis (from Philly, and who would prefer I don’t use his last name), who has taken on your National League Champion Philadelphia Phillies:

Hello — long time reader, first time contributor. I have a few issues with the uniforms of my beloved Philadelphia Phillies, so I decided to go ahead and give my best shot at a slight alteration. Specifically, my two biggest gripes are the cartoonish NOB/number font and the number on the sleeve. I started out by creating a uniform set using the current team colors, changing the font back to the Helvetica style font used in those Vet-era uniforms (with vertical arching for the name) and moving the sleeve number to the front of the jersey. To replace the sleeve number, I added a Liberty Bell patch to the left sleeve. I’m a fan of the Phils’ current alternate unis, especially their use of blue, so I incorporated the color more than it’s used now. The alternate jersey bears a passing resemblance to the current alt and uses the same cap, but is white instead of cream and has some piping. I also made a fauxback alternate with the ‘P’ on the chest, in the current colors and outlined by blue (and sans pinstripes). One of the options is a white cap with a red bill and red piping (worn in the early 20th century), giving this uniform facets of those worn throughout the Phillies’ history.

I also think red (and to a lesser extent, blue) is overused in MLB. The old maroon uniforms worn in the 70s and 80s give the team a good opportunity to break away from this mold and claim a unique color combo, so I tried to envision what a modern take would look like. I also think the maroon went well with the power blue uniforms worn during that period, so I used this as an accent color in my mockups. The NOB and numbers are outlined in powder blue, and the color is used on the sleeve and sock stripes. The alternate features even more powder blue and the white hat with maroon accents. Lastly, I made a vest design based on the 70s/80s Phillies jersey with maroon sleeves and a dash of powder blue. This is the most ‘out there’ of my designs, but I think it works for an occasional game or two.

-Dennis from Philly

PS- I apologize if the color or design elements are off when you open the file – I made these in MS Paint and it is my first time doing something like this. If you do decide to use this, please only use my first name. Thanks, and I hope you like it!

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That will conclude this round. Already, I have more for next weekend, so keep them coming. You know where to send them. Thanks!

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*PHEW*

That’s (finally) going to end this Super Sized Super Bowl piece. After going a stellar 7-3 (which would have been 8-2 had I picked the ‘boys over the Iggles) by “picking the winner based on the better uniform,” I will have to pick the Colts to win today. As of late last evening, the spread was 5 points. So, giving the five, we’ll take the Colts to win. Be nice to close out the season with another “uni win.”

Don’t forget to post your “What will the Who play?” guess down below. Just pick the songs, in the ORDER THEY PLAY them, and you’re good to go. OK? OK!

Oh, yeah. There’s still the matter of a game. So — enjoy the big one today. Cheers!

156 comments to When The Saints (& Colts) Go Marching In

It rarely gets noted that the Colts kept the Dallas Texans’ navy and white color scheme when they first arrived in Baltimore.

It wasn’t until the first white “horseshoe” helmets (shoes on the back) in 1956 that the navy was changed to royal.

Also, for the SAINTS, the new socks for 1969 are described as striped “sanitaries”. They, of course, were not thin sanitaries. They were white athletic “crew” socks. I meant to tell Phil to change that and forgot.

—Ricko

JAson|
February 7, 2010 at 8:03 am |

You would have to assume that, on CBS, The Who will play all of the CSI themes

scott|
February 7, 2010 at 8:03 am |

The tweaks to the Phlllies uniforms are mostly good; I’d like to see them return to a more burgundy color, too, to give the team a little more distinct appearance. But I don’t understand why you’d take away the numbers from the sleeves, which is a one-of-a-kind look in baseball right now.

I agree that the Rays should go for the full head to toe powder blue look. Are the Rays pairing the powder blue jersey with a powder blue cap during regular season games, or just for spring training and batting practice?

MEMAL|
February 7, 2010 at 8:20 am |

Two best tweaks: Powder blue Panthers helmet and the maroon Phillies. If the Panthers kept their helmet stripe then that helmet would absolutely rock with either those or their current uni set!

The Who: Won’t Get Fooled Again, My Generation, Who Are You, Baba O’Reilly.

To leon: I think for Emmitt Smith’s HOF introduction speech, they should just play this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_L-gbpKZpo and then let Emmitt come and say his thing. It wouldn’t matter what he said after that, everyone would just be dying laughing!

Good work guys. Want to mention one thing about the Colts unis that you forgot. Somewhere around 2004-2006, I believe, they changed from “Royal Blue” to “Colts Blue.”

A mighty significant change, even if it’s just a shade or two darker. Keep in mind, EVERYTHING got changed.

The Saints looked terrific up until the fat stripe or no-stripe eras. Talk about a reverse ratio of team performance-to-uni design excellence. ;)

Matt|
February 7, 2010 at 9:06 am |

I will bet the farm that the Colts’ change back to black cleats was during the 1995 season. I remember watching them during the playoff run that should have put them into the super bowl and thinking “With the black cleats, the look like The REAL Colts again”

ToddW|
February 7, 2010 at 9:07 am |

When are they going to let us vote on the NFL Tweaks contest?? I’ve been waiting :(

FormerDirtDart|
February 7, 2010 at 9:11 am |

Phil,
The picture of the Colts ’54 white jersey “unchanged form ’53” looks like the changed ’55 jersey

Tamera Tweaker|
February 7, 2010 at 9:11 am |

I think they did tweak contest back on Feb 1st….but I can’t find it posted.

Oakville Endive|
February 7, 2010 at 9:29 am |

A couple of years ago , the Colts announced they were changing the shade of bue to a slightly darker hue. Initially worried, it has seemed like a non-event – that non-event confirmed by it not being even mentioned – good job guys

James Hayden|
February 7, 2010 at 10:19 am |

Great uni histories – I’ve always been fuzzy on the pre-Dallas (i.e. Dayton/Brooklyn) era of the Colts franchise. BTW (and IIRC) once the Texans became a “road” team, they moved their offices to Hershey, PA/Chocolate Town USA.

Add me to the thumb up for a Phillies burgundy -some team needs to have a good maroon/gold or maroon/silver-gray uni. All that blue is bull. Which brings me to the repurposing of the Rays. When they cast out the ‘debil’ and went with Rays they could’ve been more creative w/gold or yellow than blue & white so dominant. Gee, what MLB needed, another dark blue cap. Sheesh

BTW thanks for a touch of baseball today – I don’t give a crap about SB44. If Moon & Entwhistle were alive & playing I might. . ..

Bryan Boltik|
February 7, 2010 at 10:35 am |

The Who: Baba O’Riley, Tommy, Pinball Wizard, Who are You, Won’t Get fooled again

Beau Craig|
February 7, 2010 at 10:35 am |

The Who: Baba O’Riley, Who Are You?, Tommy, Pinball Wizard, Won’t get Fooled Again

leon|
February 7, 2010 at 10:35 am |

Would Phil, Rick, Tim and Larry please stand and be recognized?! As comprehensive a set of uniform studies as one could hope for. Delightful! Besides the visuals, I was struck by a coupla word-related revelations: never knew the difference between criss and cross before today; and was happy to see the Saints perform through thick and thin.

I remember when the Rays first went to the navy blue look, they said they would put “Rays” on the road jersey as part of the re-branding process for the first year and then switch to “Tampa Bay” like most teams do for road jerseys.

Is this ever going to happen?

The Jeff|
February 7, 2010 at 11:00 am |

[quote comment=”376597″]A reminder on just how bad the New York teams used to look…[/quote]

Bah. Fix the color matching issue on the Giants old helmets and I’d take that uniform over the current one in a heartbeat. At least it was consistent with itself.

I’ll go either way on the Jets.

EdFi|
February 7, 2010 at 11:00 am |

The Who: Who Are You, Won’t Get Fooled Again (with David Caruso putting on his sunglasses), Tommy, Baba O’Reily

leon|
February 7, 2010 at 11:00 am |

For those who don’t wish to read the ruminations of a quinquagenarian regarding the Who, skip ahead to next post (or back, if that is your method). Many of us have our own “Who Moments” and two are vivid in my memory. The first was seeing them live in 1969: the second occurred during the college years; hearing “Baba O’Reilly” for the first time as it blasted off the back porch of a frat house as I walked by (presented by a group of lads tripping their brains out).
So I’m not looking forward to today’s half-time
because I fear it will be like watching Johhny U. in the powder blues or Broadway Joe on the Rams sideline. I hope not.
Further, it’s common knowledge that 2 of the 4 original members have passed on, so are we really seeing “The Who”? Not knocking them for this; they aren’t the first musical group to change personnel while keeping the originl name. Just think it would have been cooler to call them “Stereo-phenia” or “Who-Dey” or some-such. Here’s hoping they represent.

My small contribution. This is from Penny Marshall’s bobblehead collection(a.k.a. Laverne), which she apparently sold off at auction in 2006. Note the Saints black helmet bobber(w/two gold center stripes), and the white 49ers helmet @ left. These bobbers range from 1968-70.

Two photos in this entry activated my OCD. Under 1968 for the Saints there’s a picture of supposedly the ’68 Saints playing the Steelers… but the Steelers are wearing their gold shoulder yoke (or triangle if you will) which I thought they only wore in ’66 and ’67. (This is the photo linked as “worn simultaneously”).

Then in the Colts section, under 1973-74 there’s a shot of the Colts punting against what looks like Denver wearing orange pants. But wait, the Broncos only wore orange pants ’68 to ’71 and not again till ’78. When is this photo from? (It’s linked as “gradually”).

And an additional note about the Colts’ franchise timeline. When the Boston Yanks moved to New York in 1949 they were actually called the New York Bulldogs for that season. They couldn’t be called the NY Yanks/Yankees yet because the AAFC team of that name was still in operation.

I hate to be a downer on such a great day, but this is something I didn’t want to overlook. Brendan Burke, the son of Toronto Maple Leafs GM Brian Burke, died in a car crash on Friday night. He was the student manager for the Miami RedHawks hockey team and was on his way to the game. I post this here because Miami wore a rather large decal in his memory last night.

By now y’all have probably listed all the possible combinations of Who/CSI songs, so I’ll just ask this: what’s the name of the song that goes, “You can’t always get it, when you really want it, you can’t always get it at all…”? They used to play that much of the song at the Richfield Coliseum when the gates opened. It was part of a montage of songs they pieced together featuring groups that played there.

The Jeff|
February 7, 2010 at 11:35 am |

[quote comment=”376608″]My small contribution. This is from Penny Marshall’s bobblehead collection(a.k.a. Laverne), which she apparently sold off at auction in 2006. Note the Saints black helmet bobber(w/two gold center stripes), and the white 49ers helmet @ left. These bobbers range from 1968-70.

Heh. 49ers on the bottom right – I’d swear that says “49HRS” on it. If that was an E, it didn’t age well.

LI Phil|
February 7, 2010 at 11:35 am |

[quote comment=”376609″]Two photos in this entry activated my OCD. Under 1968 for the Saints there’s a picture of supposedly the ’68 Saints playing the Steelers… but the Steelers are wearing their gold shoulder yoke (or triangle if you will) which I thought they only wore in ’66 and ’67. (This is the photo linked as “worn simultaneously”).[/quote]

that photo vexed me — it’s a screen grab from a set of pixtures larry sent me…if you look closely — the two helmets have DIFFERENT STRIPE PATTERNS — which is what i was using to denote “different styles worn simultaneously”

however, i agree with you that the stillers didn’t wear that uniform in 1968 — so it is either a preseason 1968 game, OR the saints actually had their two different helmet striping patterns in 1967

the more we think we have all the uni machinations down, the more mysteries crop up

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[quote comment=”376609″]Then in the Colts section, under 1973-74 there’s a shot of the Colts punting against what looks like Denver wearing orange pants. But wait, the Broncos only wore orange pants ’68 to ’71 and not again till ’78. When is this photo from? (It’s linked as “gradually”).[/quote]

apologies — couldn’t find a definitive photo from 73-74, so i used one where the white cleats were definitely shown (as a representation)…good catch (knew it wasn’t definitely the exact time frame) — but was meant more to show the white cleats than anything else

there may be more than one photo that appears “not” to fit, and if so, i apologize — most of what i’m researching isn’t dated, so i’m trying to fit a photo to the fantastically researched time-line timmy has presented

concealed78|
February 7, 2010 at 11:37 am |

That’s too bad about the Saints not being copper. I actually liked that incorrect shade over the gold, which looks washed out.

We need to get past this mindset that “powder blue jerseys must be matched with powder blue pants”. Personally I have no problem with powder blue being a legitimate top paired with white pants. Tho paired with gray, it looks like shit, but so do all mix ‘n matched light tops & pants. To me there is just something really odd about the Blue Jays wearing full powder blues at home. In fact I can’t think of any powder blue or monochromed road uni that I like.

[quote comment=”376613″][quote comment=”376608″]My small contribution. This is from Penny Marshall’s bobblehead collection(a.k.a. Laverne), which she apparently sold off at auction in 2006. Note the Saints black helmet bobber(w/two gold center stripes), and the white 49ers helmet @ left. These bobbers range from 1968-70.

[quote comment=”376581″]The tweaks to the Phlllies uniforms are mostly good; I’d like to see them return to a more burgundy color, too, to give the team a little more distinct appearance. But I don’t understand why you’d take away the numbers from the sleeves, which is a one-of-a-kind look in baseball right now.[/quote]

I agree. How about putting the number inside a slightly larger Liberty Bell?

Oh, and I’d wear that all-powder Rays uni, Phil.

LI Phil|
February 7, 2010 at 11:42 am |

[quote comment=”376612″]

By now y’all have probably listed all the possible combinations of Who/CSI songs, so I’ll just ask this: what’s the name of the song that goes, “You can’t always get it, when you really want it, you can’t always get it at all…”? They used to play that much of the song at the Richfield Coliseum when the gates opened. It was part of a montage of songs they pieced together featuring groups that played there.[/quote]

[quote comment=”376608″]My small contribution. This is from Penny Marshall’s bobblehead collection(a.k.a. Laverne), which she apparently sold off at auction in 2006. Note the Saints black helmet bobber(w/two gold center stripes), and the white 49ers helmet @ left. These bobbers range from 1968-70.

I used to have that Bears bobblehead. My brother has a Steelers one from that era, but they used a metallic gold instead of athletic gold. The helmet was metallic gold as well. Also, the player was depicted as black instead of white. Couldn’t find a picture online, so next time I’m at my brother’s I’ll try to get a shot.

Giancarlo|
February 7, 2010 at 11:50 am |

The Who:

Can’t Explain
I Can See For Miles
Pinball Wizard
Medley of songs from “Cabaret”
Won’t Get Fooled Again

matt in cleveland|
February 7, 2010 at 11:58 am |

who cares its halftime anyways!!!!!

JimV19|
February 7, 2010 at 12:01 pm |

[quote comment=”376601″]Just think it would have been cooler to call them “Stereo-phenia” or “Who-Dey” or some-such. Here’s hoping they represent.[/quote]

Who-Dey…I like that. And the NFL wouldn’t even sue them now…

LI Phil|
February 7, 2010 at 12:07 pm |

[quote comment=”376625″][quote comment=”376601″]Just think it would have been cooler to call them “Stereo-phenia” or “Who-Dey” or some-such. Here’s hoping they represent.[/quote]

[quote comment=”376609″]Two photos in this entry activated my OCD. Under 1968 for the Saints there’s a picture of supposedly the ’68 Saints playing the Steelers… but the Steelers are wearing their gold shoulder yoke (or triangle if you will) which I thought they only wore in ’66 and ’67. (This is the photo linked as “worn simultaneously”).

Then in the Colts section, under 1973-74 there’s a shot of the Colts punting against what looks like Denver wearing orange pants. But wait, the Broncos only wore orange pants ’68 to ’71 and not again till ’78. When is this photo from? (It’s linked as “gradually”).

And an additional note about the Colts’ franchise timeline. When the Boston Yanks moved to New York in 1949 they were actually called the New York Bulldogs for that season. They couldn’t be called the NY Yanks/Yankees yet because the AAFC team of that name was still in operation.[/quote]

“We’re kinda doing a mashup of stuff,” the guitarist tells Billboard. “A bit of ‘Baba O’Riley,’ a bit of ‘Pinball Wizard,’ a bit of the close of ‘Tommy,’ a bit of ‘Who Are You,’ and a bit of ‘Won’t Get Fooled Again.’ It works — it’s quite a saga. A lot of the stuff that we do has that kind of celebratory vibe about it — we’ve always tried to make music that allows the audience to go a bit wild if they want to. Hopefully it will hit the spot.”

Joel|
February 7, 2010 at 12:52 pm |

I love the Philles tweaks the red and blue set. Im all for taking the numbers off the sleeve and putting the liberty bell in place of it, but no need to put the numbers on the front

Johnny O|
February 7, 2010 at 12:52 pm |

[quote comment=”376632″][quote comment=”376628″]I was trying to find a picture of the Wisconsin goalie who appeared to be wearing a stocking hat or a cutoff sock on top of his mask.[/quote]

Thanks for posting that Phil. I was just about to re-post that, but you beat me to it. It seemed that Badger’s goalie Gudmandson was wearing a sock, that was cut at the bottom, to make his touque. If you look at the pics that jagameista posted… it does indeed to be that.

And although The Who have revealed what songs they are playing, they did not reveal what order they are in. (I don’t believe).

Dennis|
February 7, 2010 at 12:54 pm |

Glad to hear the positive feedback on my Phillies tweaks. Seems like there’s some interest in leaving the sleeve numbers, so here’s a mockup of the maroon set with on the home and away jerseys. I neglected one more reason to add the powder blue accents – the color is prominently featured on the Philadelphia city flag.

Addam|
February 7, 2010 at 1:04 pm |

Those bills concepts are some of the best I’ve seen. Good joojoo to you, James, for those creations.

[quote comment=”376638″]Glad to hear the positive feedback on my Phillies tweaks. Seems like there’s some interest in leaving the sleeve numbers, so here’s a mockup of the maroon set with on the home and away jerseys. I neglected one more reason to add the powder blue accents – the color is prominently featured on the Philadelphia city flag.[/quote]
I’ll join in the chorus: Your concept maroon and powders are AWESOME. I don’t think you can go wrong between the Liberty Bell patch or the jersey number on the left sleeve, but either way, I’m not a fan of the front number below the Phillies script. Just looks too cluttered. I don’t think you need it: I’d take it away. And I don’t like either one of the white hats. If you must have an alternate hat for the sake of an alternate hat, I’d recommend the maroon cap with a powder P (with maybe a white outline) as well as the powder squatchee. But whatever you do, keep the throwback hat with the harkback vest.

Oh, and now that I’m thinking of the Phillies…is anybody stuck with a Cliff Lee jersey? DIY idea: get some extra letters to spell out HALLEEDAY. You keep the perfect centering without needing a stitch remover, over the correct jersey number. After all, with a jersey halfway down the toilet after a couple of months of service, might as well have a sense of humor?

leon|
February 7, 2010 at 1:36 pm |

[quote comment=”376641″]Oh, and now that I’m thinking of the Phillies…is anybody stuck with a Cliff Lee jersey? DIY idea: get some extra letters to spell out HALLEEDAY. You keep the perfect centering without needing a stitch remover, over the correct jersey number. After all, with a jersey halfway down the toilet after a couple of months of service, might as well have a sense of humor?[/quote]

why are we tweaking great unis in the first place . Leave the Phils unis alone, but if we must then based on the proposed designs i’d drop the ALT 2 set- it’s pointless. I do like addind the bell but why not #’s on one side and bell on the other
as for TB Rays: isn’t that shade of powder blue a little too dark? drop it a couple shades and i’m good

Hibbsy|
February 7, 2010 at 1:54 pm |

[quote comment=”376623″]The Who:

Can’t Explain
I Can See For Miles
Pinball Wizard
Medley of songs from “Cabaret”
Won’t Get Fooled Again[/quote]

I should not hold out for “A Quick One, While He’s Away”.

Those Hornets unis are nasty.

I have always liked the striped neck of the Packers.

I kind of like the orange yokey deal on the Bengals white jersey. It’s just about the only thing I like. I wonder why it doesn’t appear on the black one.

Baba O’Riley, Pinball Wizard, Squeeze Box, Who Are You, Eminence Front, We Won’t Get Fooled Again

(@everyone, Tommy isn’t a song, it’s an album)

mtjaws|
February 7, 2010 at 2:50 pm |

Great recap of the Colts and Saints uniform history. I always learn something new during these historical look-backs.

I was thinking Bon Jovi would be the halftime show, but with CBS looking to plug their CSIs, I can see why they picked The Who. I’ll still watch and hope it is good. Anything is better than The Rolling Stones.

I’m looking for clear shots that show this Purdue football uniform design more clearly. Specifically, I’m looking for a few images that detail what the sleeve design and the shoulder yoke looks like. (I’m a fan and working on a concept for a DIY-style project.)

From this image, it seems like the jersey is black with old gold TV numbers outlined in white. Same numbers appear to be on the sleeve, and it looks like the yoke is a thick shoulder stripe in old gold with white outline. I believe this uniform was worn on and off in the late 60’s. (Bob Griese is in this team picture from ’66, but the only other pic I’ve seen shows Mike Phipps, who played in ’69.)

Any fellow Purdue and/or Big Ten’ers, your help is more than appreciated.

LI Phil|
February 7, 2010 at 3:28 pm |

two things about the who tonight…

1) i HOPE they don’t let rog play the axe

2) i’d love to hear “this is for ox” (with a bit of ‘the seeker’ or ‘behind blue eyes’ tossed in in the medley)

i doubt #2 will happen, but i’d like to see it

…and yes, long before i posted the “guess the songs” i knew what daltry had said they would play…but it wouldn’t surprise me to see them omit one or add one to it, and no one is certain of the order

[quote comment=”376630″]The Who already released the set list, so this contest is kind of stupid.[/quote]
And even with 5 songs known, there are 120 different orders to play them.

jesse|
February 7, 2010 at 4:04 pm |

As always, enjoyed the uni-tweaks, very well done. As far as the half-time show, “Whooooooooo dat, who who ooohh ooohhh”. Just had to get that out of my system, and No, I’m not a Saints fan.

LarryB|
February 7, 2010 at 4:08 pm |

[quote comment=”376661″]Fellow UWers: a plea for help, if you can.

I’m looking for clear shots that show this Purdue football uniform design more clearly. Specifically, I’m looking for a few images that detail what the sleeve design and the shoulder yoke looks like. (I’m a fan and working on a concept for a DIY-style project.)

From this image, it seems like the jersey is black with old gold TV numbers outlined in white. Same numbers appear to be on the sleeve, and it looks like the yoke is a thick shoulder stripe in old gold with white outline. I believe this uniform was worn on and off in the late 60’s. (Bob Griese is in this team picture from ’66, but the only other pic I’ve seen shows Mike Phipps, who played in ’69.)

Any fellow Purdue and/or Big Ten’ers, your help is more than appreciated.[/quote]

To Jim Vilk (JimV19):
I live in Cuyahoga Falls. I saw your shoutout to Jubilee Donuts, and enjoyed your post about the Richfield Coliseum, which I miss very badly. I’m not crazy about Quicken Loans Arena (I still call it “The Gund”).

Ben Neureuther|
February 7, 2010 at 4:40 pm |

I had a chance to attend the Culver’s Camp Randall Hockey Classic yesterday in Madison. What a great event! I had never been to a Badgers hockey game before, but had been at Camp Randall many times since I have season tickets for football. The Badger womens team won 6-1 vs Bemidji State in the afternoon, and the Badger mens team won 3-2 over Michigan, getting 2 power play goals in the last 6 minutes to win!! I brought my camera for the day, and along with almost freezing my hands off taking pictures during the games, I tooks some photos of some cool old-school hockey sweaters, which were set up as part of the Hockey Hall of Fame display in a warming area in the Badgers indoor practice facility. I’m not a huge hockey buff, but I know Paul has a thing for old sweaters. Enjoy!

They showed a quick time lapse of the stadium where you could see them lining the field- the Saints and Colts endzones were already on there.

The strange thing was the stadium felled with people and emptied out during the video- when would this have happened in the past week?

Chuck|
February 7, 2010 at 5:04 pm |

I am glad the Saints are the road team, as they could have worn those gaudy black on black unis. Question: Do you think the NFL brass would have asked the Saints not to go black on black if they have been the home team?

mtjaws|
February 7, 2010 at 5:27 pm |

[quote comment=”376677″]Did anyone see the pregame feature on the Who?

They showed a quick time lapse of the stadium where you could see them lining the field- the Saints and Colts endzones were already on there.

The strange thing was the stadium felled with people and emptied out during the video- when would this have happened in the past week?[/quote]

I think it said Wed or Thurs on the video, and I’m sure they had some kind of dress rehearsal for both the band and other events. The crowd could have been any collection of workers or other people.

leon|
February 7, 2010 at 5:36 pm |

[quote comment=”376679″][quote comment=”376677″]Did anyone see the pregame feature on the Who?

They showed a quick time lapse of the stadium where you could see them lining the field- the Saints and Colts endzones were already on there.

The strange thing was the stadium felled with people and emptied out during the video- when would this have happened in the past week?[/quote]

I think it said Wed or Thurs on the video, and I’m sure they had some kind of dress rehearsal for both the band and other events. The crowd could have been any collection of workers or other people.[/quote]

To Jim Vilk (JimV19):
I live in Cuyahoga Falls. I saw your shoutout to Jubilee Donuts, and enjoyed your post about the Richfield Coliseum, which I miss very badly. I’m not crazy about Quicken Loans Arena (I still call it “The Gund”).[/quote]

You should change your name to Bob from the Falls! Or you could just switch houses with me. I’d gladly move back to my hometown.

I’d call it “The Gund,” but since the Gund brothers took away my Richfield Cavs, I just call it “The Q.”

I think my dad went to a pro game at the Rubber Bowl once or twice. The Browns used to play preseason games there occasionally.

Flip|
February 7, 2010 at 6:08 pm |

Christian Science Monitor weighs in on the story behind the behind the uniform choices http://bit.ly/9kOX9z

Matt Fedorka|
February 7, 2010 at 6:11 pm |

The Who will play:

Who Are You
Won’t Get Fooled Again
The Seeker
Pinball Wizard
Baba O’Reilly

[quote comment=”376688″]If they do “Who Are You” it’ll be the “AM” version, not the album cut or we’d have an FCC issue.[/quote]

For some reason, the FM classic rock station in Akron has played the album cut and gotten away with it for 20+ years.

Timed it almost perfectly – I missed pretty much the entire pregame. The only thing I would have wanted to see was if CBS did a look back at 50 years of broadcasting the games. Did they do something like that?

By now y’all have probably listed all the possible combinations of Who/CSI songs, so I’ll just ask this: what’s the name of the song that goes, “You can’t always get it, when you really want it, you can’t always get it at all…”? They used to play that much of the song at the Richfield Coliseum when the gates opened. It was part of a montage of songs they pieced together featuring groups that played there.[/quote]
Jim, before you mentioned it, I hadn’t made the connection between The Who, CSI and CBS. Would The Who be playing the halftime if Fox was broadcasting the game? I’m thinking probably not

me|
February 7, 2010 at 8:10 pm |

For once, write a post by yourself. Do you really need help every time?

LI Phil|
February 7, 2010 at 8:13 pm |

if you had this:

wizard>baba>who are you>see me feel me>won’t get fooled

you win…lemme go back & see if anyone had it

Graf Zeppelin|
February 7, 2010 at 8:14 pm |

[quote comment=”376677″]Did anyone see the pregame feature on the Who?

They showed a quick time lapse of the stadium where you could see them lining the field- the Saints and Colts endzones were already on there.

The strange thing was the stadium felled with people and emptied out during the video- when would this have happened in the past week?[/quote]

I’ve noticed that we rarely, if ever, see alternate uniforms in the postseason. The Cardinals didn’t go red-over-red last year, or this. The Ravens haven’t worn their black alternate jerseys in the postseason, nor have the Eagles. The Panthers never wore their powder blue jerseys in the playoffs, nor did the Patriots wear the greys. The only team that’s gone monochrome was Seattle, and that’s their regular combination. Even when the Cowboys wore those awful star jerseys in the mid-90s they at least had the sense to wear their regular whites in the Super Bowl.

The Jets even went white-over-white in this year’s playoffs despite wearing the green pants in ’04 and ’06. (The green pants debuted in ’02, but in the ’02 playoffs they went green-over-white at home against the Colts and white-over-white in Oakland the next week).

My guess is the NFL likes to see standard home and road uniforms on the “big stage” of the postseason.

jesse|
February 7, 2010 at 8:15 pm |

And that show was crap. The Who,excellent band, that performance, not so much.

LI Phil|
February 7, 2010 at 8:17 pm |

well…no one had the correct order…so…i guess we’ll just have to have another contest on another weekend

thanks to everyone who played

Gary Moore|
February 7, 2010 at 8:17 pm |

Right songs, wrong sequence.

Graf Zeppelin|
February 7, 2010 at 8:19 pm |

Now I feel like a doof for quoting the wrong comment. Let’s try this again:

[quote comment=”376678″]I am glad the Saints are the road team, as they could have worn those gaudy black on black unis.

Question: Do you think the NFL brass would have asked the Saints not to go black on black if they have been the home team?[/quote]

I’ve noticed that we rarely, if ever, see alternate uniforms in the postseason. The Cardinals didn’t go red-over-red last year, or this. The Ravens haven’t worn their black alternate jerseys in the postseason, nor have the Eagles. The Panthers never wore their powder blue jerseys in the playoffs, nor did the Patriots wear the greys. The only team that’s gone monochrome was Seattle, and that’s their regular combination. Even when the Cowboys wore those awful star jerseys in the mid-90s they at least had the sense to wear their regular whites in the Super Bowl.

The Jets even went white-over-white in this year’s playoffs despite wearing the green pants in ‘04 and ‘06. (The green pants debuted in ‘02, but in the ‘02 playoffs they went green-over-white at home against the Colts and white-over-white in Oakland the next week).

My guess is the NFL likes to see standard home and road uniforms on the “big stage” of the postseason.

inkracer|
February 7, 2010 at 8:46 pm |

Is it just me, or is the Saints endzone painted in yet another shade of gold, that isn’t already on their uniforms?

[quote comment=”376696″]For once, write a post by yourself. Do you really need help every time?[/quote]

Naturally, this pussy is hiding behind a phony name and e-mail address, as trolls always do. Personally, I think the way Phil has incorporated new voices into the weekend posts is awesome, but I know for a fact he put a lot of time and energy into today’s entry. But even if he didn’t — in other words, even if Larry, Ricko, and the others did all the work — why exactly wouldn’t that matter? All that matters is that there’s a shitload of primo content for you today. Does it really matter who produced which percentage of it?

Thanks, Larry. That is the shot I’d seen, but the effort’s appreciated. It seems to me as though the shoulder stripe ends where the shoulder meets the sleeve. I’m hoping to find an image that verifies this.

And while we’re talking about The Who, its hard for me to believe that I saw them on their “farewell” tour 27 years ago (Exhibition Stadium, 1982). Farewell indeed.

rpm|
February 8, 2010 at 2:38 am |

sorry i am so late getting to this, but betwixt work and bowl, i had to read it late.

long duck dong phil, that was an amazing documentation today. seriously, your best ever effort in that faze. there will be people coming to this page and the pictures within for years to come. i loved it. damn mayflower colts bring tears to my eyes.

Hibbsy|
February 8, 2010 at 7:38 am |

chaka khan

Louis|
February 8, 2010 at 6:28 pm |

pinball wizard, baba o’riley, who are you, see me feel me, Wont get fooled again

Thank you so much for coming up with new Phillies designs, especially the ones harking back to the 1980’s look. I really wish they would bring back that logo/design. I truly love the 80’s design with the piping coming down the front of the jersey. Just please use the full “P” logo rather than the version that was used in 1980. Love it!

Monty|
February 10, 2010 at 12:51 am |

Ringo’s “boy”? Zak is 44 years old! He has been a touring and sometime recording contributor to The Who since 1994, but turned down an offer to join the band as a member. He was also a touring and recording contributor to Oasis, and also turned down an offer to join Oasis as well.

Zak’s godfather was Keith Moon. Moon also was credited with giving Zak his first serious lessons, and gave him his first set of drums.