halabar wrote:So how are the new pets in battle, or are they getting better at their rock-paper-scissors balancing?

Haven't seen any in my (admittedly limited) PvP-ing. The only raid one that I've seen is the Anubisath Idol.

So with the quest and the achievement for level 25 PvP-ing, I picked that up a bit over the weekend. Went 10-6, which sounds good until I say that I started something like 7-1 and it went to hell from there. *chuckle*

The idea is to lay down a turret under a Lightning Storm, which triggers the extra damage on every shot. Turret does about 300 a round in that case, making it a 900 damage attack. The Fel Flame also works well with Lightning Storm, in that LS triggers when the DoTs hit, plus it is elemental so it doesn't take damage from LS.

Obviously, this idea (lots of small hits and DoTs) is VERY BAD against shields - I do like nothing against them.

I had been using a Disgusting Oozeling as the third, but they badly nerfed Corrosion and I haven't tried it since. Could perhaps try that again, but it doesn't solve my "shield problem" like it used to. (Not that the Fel Flame does either, as Conflag is a 4-round CD). Perhaps I should try it anyway - Corrosion still helps a little vs the shields, and Expunge is only a 3 round CD instead of 4.

Next team idea: Double Valkyr+something, probably a Crow (DM island, though I think Gilean Raven does the same thing). Unborn Val'kyrs are pretty interesting - they have a decent shield-eating attack (Shadow Shock), either Curse of Doom or Siphon Life, and a couple of really, really good things to use on their "death-turn". Ascendance seems like the standard one to use (25% extra damage, on everything, for 9 turns? Yes please!) Those are all pure Undead attacks (weak against Aquatics), so the third would be something with good Flying attacks. Crow has a gigantic Flying hit (Darkness+Nocturnal Strike), plus Alpha Strike as well. Plus, I'm sick and tired of Magical Crawdads and Darkness > Wish.

Need to get a second Val'kyr to try it - I picked one up yesterday (was lucky, found it in about 5 minutes of looking, and already had an Undead stone). Have a Flawless stone for the next one, and my Crow is already rare so I'd just need to level the Val'kyrs.

@Flex: Were you the one who has everything in Kalimdor except Qariji? Next week for that one!

Most people want the wealth produced by a society with limited government distributed to them more generously by bigger government.

theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

halabar wrote:Noo.. you don't realize the problem. Worldie was to negative guild breaking energy like Bolvar is to the Scourge. If Worldie is removed, than someone must pick up that mantle, otherwise that negative guild breaking energy will run rampant, destroying all the servers.

What about just waiting for a month or two when most people will have got them so you can quietly tame one in peace?

theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

halabar wrote:Noo.. you don't realize the problem. Worldie was to negative guild breaking energy like Bolvar is to the Scourge. If Worldie is removed, than someone must pick up that mantle, otherwise that negative guild breaking energy will run rampant, destroying all the servers.

Yes but all the people are farming it now at same time. I can bet within a couple weeks the traffic there will be minimal.

theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

halabar wrote:Noo.. you don't realize the problem. Worldie was to negative guild breaking energy like Bolvar is to the Scourge. If Worldie is removed, than someone must pick up that mantle, otherwise that negative guild breaking energy will run rampant, destroying all the servers.

Is it? When i found mine I hadn't seen anyone in the area for a couple days.

Plus, Minfernal have very high respawn time (24+ hours?), while the Qiraji aren't really "rare", it's just about there being a ton of people looking for them so they basically disappear as soon as they spawn.

theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

halabar wrote:Noo.. you don't realize the problem. Worldie was to negative guild breaking energy like Bolvar is to the Scourge. If Worldie is removed, than someone must pick up that mantle, otherwise that negative guild breaking energy will run rampant, destroying all the servers.

Would you hate me if I told you that I got the valkyr at the 4th lap ever, the minfernal after camping for maybe total 2 hour after getting there for first time, and the scourged whelp by accident not knowing it was rare?

theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

halabar wrote:Noo.. you don't realize the problem. Worldie was to negative guild breaking energy like Bolvar is to the Scourge. If Worldie is removed, than someone must pick up that mantle, otherwise that negative guild breaking energy will run rampant, destroying all the servers.

Fenrìr wrote:Maybe it's different for EU, but I just swung by the minfernal spawn and saw 15'ish people there.

but currently...unborn val'kyr is a pain.

Minfernals are impossible.

I actually have two Val'kyrs now - found the first one in about 5 minutes last week, and another one today (after probably 4 hours of flying around - not all at once of course, just bits here and there waiting in LFR queues). I _am_ using both of them in one of my PvP teams (still trying to settle on a good 3rd pet for that group), so don't yell at me too much for grabbing a 2nd.

I cheapo-ed a Scourged Whelpling - did the "DK on an RP-PvP server" bit and they were all over the place. Kinda funny walking around Icecrown with a level 1 char.I might just do the DK starter quests with that guy in order to get a Minfernal as well - probably faster to do that than camp the spawn area on a normal server. The Scourged Whelpling is good - my Clockwork Gnome/Scourged Whelpling/Zandalari Kneebiter team is doing pretty well, though I wish the Kneebiter wouldn't fall over quite so easily. *chuckle*

Most people want the wealth produced by a society with limited government distributed to them more generously by bigger government.

Rolled char on PvP rp realm -> got flied there by a friend -> landed right on top of one -> caugth.

Time taken: 5 minutes approximately XD

theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

halabar wrote:Noo.. you don't realize the problem. Worldie was to negative guild breaking energy like Bolvar is to the Scourge. If Worldie is removed, than someone must pick up that mantle, otherwise that negative guild breaking energy will run rampant, destroying all the servers.