Do You Think IMVU Should Add the Age Verification Feature to ALL Users of IMVU?

Yes, I think this would be a great idea.

51%

[ 101 ]

No, I do not think this is nesscesary.

48%

[ 95 ]

Total Votes : 196

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RinaFanel

Joined: 25 Nov 2009Posts: 8396Location: USA

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:35 am Post subject:

Again Anaka you are asking for the impossible the entirety of the net encourages minors to lie and there is no way ensure to that the person behind the documentation or SSN is who they say they are. iMVU also cannot allow it for All adults because frankly i have caught minors with AP and age verification. Both systems are easily bypassed. So again there is no way.

Even if it was mandatory... unless you want the equivalent of a private company's G-men....yay invasion of privacy.

No internet based website, game, or program can ensure minors are not going to get in harms way. Only the parents, education, and basic watching of trends can hinder this. The government already decided here that age verification is not an acceptable means to protest the online community and while yes it is a good point, welcome to the internet, home of shark infested waters, liars, system cheats, trolls, ***, and in general uncensored people shrouded in the protection of anonymous posts and freedom of expression (since the internet is global laws are hard to enforce. Example Swedish based pirating companies tried here winning because there is no set copyright law that matches the US.)_________________*Drags self up like a zombie*
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It definitely isn't something to trust your security on, but for sure I think the age verification badge does offer just that extra bit of assurance. At least over here in Australia you have to send through a photo of your drivers license. Been there, done that. The process was simple and straight forward. I'd trust it amongst other Australians who had their age verified. But as for you Americans. Eh I dunno.

Again Anaka you are asking for the impossible the entirety of the net encourages minors to lie and there is no way ensure to that the person behind the documentation or SSN is who they say they are. iMVU also cannot allow it for All adults because frankly i have caught minors with AP and age verification. Both systems are easily bypassed. So again there is no way.

Rina,

The ability for some to bypass age verification online or other processes to keep minors out of adult areas doesn't mean those corporate systems aren't important and generally effective. In fact, the reason companies have age verification systems and take other steps to discourage minors in adult areas is because they DO make a difference.

For example, SecondLife was forced to improve after it was discovered in late 2007 that the real life, international, pedophile gang Wonderland had set up operations on SL possibly involving real children, creating an international scandal and Interpol investigation. In response, SL's initial age check improvements were intentionally lousy by corporate design. (An SL attorney even confirmed they planned to send messages to affected minors telling them how to easily bypass age verification!) But continuing demand by corporate clients, users, law enforcement, and international governments forced SL to do better, further reducing the number of real minors with adult SL accounts by 50% in just the past 2 years (according to independent demographic monitoring sites).

Responsible corporate sites do their part to help keep minors out of adult areas. They aren't the entire solution, but they are a key part of it.

I don't believe that IMVU will require age verification for GA accounts for multiple reasons. But until they do, there are plenty of other things they can do as a responsible corporation to discourage minors from lying about their ages._________________

I find it laughable that people think it's necessary to verify age on web based games where you have the option to buy virtual currency. Second Life doesn't make it necessary for you to activate adult content with age verification.

Not to draw a compare and contrast of the two games but to digress, even on sites where the primary interest is pornography, anybody can access adult media accidentally or otherwise and be well under legal age in some countries and no legal actions are going to be pressed. who could blame them, if a parent lives in the same house you can grant benefit of the doubt.

In the end it's just a privacy and personal information risk to give information to unlock mediocre adult features which don't exactly enhance the imvu experience. i'm against any kind of ID verification. especially if it ends up costing you time or money in either party. it's ineffective and does very little for either side.

IMVU needs to use what is called a "verification" process. This process pulls random questions from public records..like what your last car was, or color of saiIt requires a credit card to use but the card can be immediately removed after the verid process has been completed. If the said user cannot answer "x" amount of questions, the said customer cannot be verified. This would at least help, maybe, with the underage customers who are "AP" or at least help thin it out a little. I do understand that the said customer can get someone else to do it for them and even use a pre-paid card, but like I said, it would at least help thin the people who shouldn't be on here in the first place.

IMVU needs to use what is called a "verification" process. This process pulls random questions from public records..like what your last car was, or color of saiIt requires a credit card to use but the card can be immediately removed after the verid process has been completed. If the said user cannot answer "x" amount of questions, the said customer cannot be verified. This would at least help, maybe, with the underage customers who are "AP" or at least help thin it out a little. I do understand that the said customer can get someone else to do it for them and even use a pre-paid card, but like I said, it would at least help thin the people who shouldn't be on here in the first place.

Why did you activate the topic, what last comment was in 2013? _________________

Because it is encouraged in the forums to not create new topics when there is one already in effect. If one exist no longer how long ago it was created or last commented on you go to that topic._________________

Part of the problem is that IMVU encourages minors to lie about their ages by only allowing adult users to safely earn credits through Peer Review, which minor accounts are NOT allowed to participate in.

Until IMVU stops paying minors to lie about their ages and instead provides minors with SAFE ways * to earn equivalent income on accounts using their real ages, I believe minors with adult accounts will continue to be a serious problem.

* Many partner offers are NOT safe, especially since so many are actually scams to obtain your private information to match up and sell to big companies (like PeopleFinders and Intellius). Did you ever stop to wonder how those companies got the info to match real names to avatar names, info they sell to anybody with $35 to $50? No company can afford to give out credits unless they are either selling something legitimate (like Netflix) or selling YOUR info on the back end.

I agree totally with everything on this post including partner offers being scams_________________STOP ADDING ME DAMNIT!!

Again Anaka you are asking for the impossible the entirety of the net encourages minors to lie and there is no way ensure to that the person behind the documentation or SSN is who they say they are. iMVU also cannot allow it for All adults because frankly i have caught minors with AP and age verification. Both systems are easily bypassed. So again there is no way.

Rina,

The ability for some to bypass age verification online or other processes to keep minors out of adult areas doesn't mean those corporate systems aren't important and generally effective. In fact, the reason companies have age verification systems and take other steps to discourage minors in adult areas is because they DO make a difference.

For example, SecondLife was forced to improve after it was discovered in late 2007 that the real life, international, pedophile gang Wonderland had set up operations on SL possibly involving real children, creating an international scandal and Interpol investigation. In response, SL's initial age check improvements were intentionally lousy by corporate design. (An SL attorney even confirmed they planned to send messages to affected minors telling them how to easily bypass age verification!) But continuing demand by corporate clients, users, law enforcement, and international governments forced SL to do better, further reducing the number of real minors with adult SL accounts by 50% in just the past 2 years (according to independent demographic monitoring sites).

Responsible corporate sites do their part to help keep minors out of adult areas. They aren't the entire solution, but they are a key part of it.

I don't believe that IMVU will require age verification for GA accounts for multiple reasons. But until they do, there are plenty of other things they can do as a responsible corporation to discourage minors from lying about their ages.

there still are tons of minors on SL with adult accounts._________________STOP ADDING ME DAMNIT!!

Because it is encouraged in the forums to not create new topics when there is one already in effect. If one exist no longer how long ago it was created or last commented on you go to that topic.

They now encourage "zombie threads?" Since when? I've noticed this more and more, people commenting on older threads. They used to close them down._________________"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Benjamin Franklin (1759)

Not everyone lives in America and Anybody can bypass the Age Verify by using another person's information. There will always be that one person whom lies about their age, and It is your duty to Report that Minor/Adult who is bypassing it- For the safety of the other users.
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Ah! Zombie Thread!_________________