re: Anyone know Scott Shipp,23 of Baton Rouge? killed last night on Blackwater RD.Posted by MightierThePenIs on 8/23/11 at 12:43 pm to boosiebadazz

quote:its been a while, but isnt "reasonably believes..." in there somewhere?

In La, you do not need to potentially give the intruder the upper hand by waiting for him/her to breach the door prior to determining that potentially lethal force is needed to protect you in your home.

re: Anyone know Scott Shipp,23 of Baton Rouge? killed last night on Blackwater RD.Posted by meauxjeaux2 on 8/23/11 at 12:45 pm to MightierThePenIs

just saw something I guess I had overlooked

quote:According to East Baton Rouge Parish Sheriff's Office, a father shot his daughter's boyfriend after he asked the pair to leave. Investigators said the man called deputies twice because the two kept returning to the property. After the second call, deputies say they received reports of shots being fired in the home.

re: Anyone know Scott Shipp,23 of Baton Rouge? killed last night on Blackwater RD.Posted by uway on 8/23/11 at 12:46 pm to meauxjeaux2

quote:i wonder then why the frick the 2nd degree murder charge?

He was ARRESTED for 2nd degree murder. I don't think that means he'll be charged for it, but I could be showing my legal ignorance there.

My understanding (talked to a cop about this last night by coincidence) is that anytime you kill someone, they arrest you for homicide of some degree and take you in. Detectives come by and gather what information they can from the scene and then contact the D.A.. In cases of clear self-defense, the D.A. may elect not to press charges at all and you'll be free to go.

Not sure how that meshes with my co-worker now talking about having to post bond for the guy.

re: Anyone know Scott Shipp,23 of Baton Rouge? killed last night on Blackwater RD.Posted by MightierThePenIs on 8/23/11 at 12:50 pm to uway

quote:is that anytime you kill someone, they arrest you for homicide of some degree and take you in. Detectives come by and gather what information they can from the scene and then contact the D.A.. In cases of clear self-defense, the D.A. may elect not to press charges at all and you'll be free to go.

That's exactly right.

You will get charged with a homicide even if you shoot someone right before they stab you in your own home.

A homicide took place. The law allows for it to be justified and thus cleared of wrongdoing.

re: Anyone know Scott Shipp,23 of Baton Rouge? killed last night on Blackwater RD.Posted by uway on 8/23/11 at 12:54 pm to MightierThePenIs

quote:You will get charged with a homicide even if you shoot someone right before they stab you in your own home.

A homicide took place.

Makes sense if you think about it. It wouldn't take a genius killer to call the cops a couple of times before he murdered someone to set up the self-defense angle. They have to at least check into it before they just give the all-clear.

re: Anyone know Scott Shipp,23 of Baton Rouge? killed last night on Blackwater RD.Posted by uway on 8/23/11 at 1:02 pm to meauxjeaux2

quote:quote: According to East Baton Rouge Parish Sheriff's Office, a father shot his daughter's boyfriend after he asked the pair to leave. Investigators said the man called deputies twice because the two kept returning to the property. After the second call, deputies say they received reports of shots being fired in the home.

so the girlfriend/daughter was with him.

Man,this is some twisted shite.

IMO this gives more credence to the self-defense angle. If the dad wanted the police to run the two of them off all day, that implies the two of them were at least together, even if they weren't getting along. At some point the girl decided to separate herself for whatever reason and went (fled?) inside the house, which the guy didn't accept. Point of that being that it would be strange if the dad and girl didn't feel threatened by him attempting to forcibly enter the house in that situation.

re: Anyone know Scott Shipp,23 of Baton Rouge? killed last night on Blackwater RD.Posted by saderade on 8/23/11 at 2:18 pm to guesswho

quote:Scott grew up in zachary. I dont think scott would threaten someone unless the old man was handicap. Scott tore my shite up and avoided me for a year so he isn't a billy bad ass. To the Central chick I am sure you know my gf's family or her

re: Anyone know Scott Shipp,23 of Baton Rouge? killed last night on Blackwater RD.Posted by tgrbaitn08 on 8/23/11 at 2:20 pm to saderade

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