Gupta/Waterkloof debate - as it happened

The National Assembly plenary has debated the use of the Waterkloof Air Force Base, following a furrore surrounding the landing of a plane at the base by the Gupta family. Read updates here.

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16:48 - @Jacanews: #GuptaGateReport: One #GuptaGuest is still in the
country-and did not leave when scheduled. That person is still in #SA. Being
investigated. #GuptaGuests did also not comply with the visa requirements... visited
Cape Town before departing... Not all those who arrived with the flight
departed on the outgoing flight.. AND #SARS has not acted against the pilot.

16:48 - Carien du Plessis - #Guptagate report is most interesting.
Koloane said he's "under pressure from no 1" and ministers of
transport and defence asked him to help... Lt-Col Anderson told colleague:
"I must be very careful now, our no 1 knows. It is political. Allow them
(Gupta landing)"

16:47 - @Jacanews: #GuptaGateReport: There was no attempt to
determine the identities of the individuals providing route protection and
escort… There was no attempt to verify the vehicle licence plates or their use
of blue lights… SAPS found two BMW's fitted with blue lights. Also found three
VW Golf GTI's and one Isuzu bakkie fitted with blue lights

16:46 - @Jacanews: #GuptaGateReport: SARS was listed as a recipient
(of wedding request) - but recipient of the FAX had actually left #SARS a year
prior... The #SARS official (no longer working for SARS) had in fact over a
year still received confidential information... How this was done without
raising alarm raises concern around the vigilance of officers.

16:38 - #GuptaGateReport: … This had an effect of bringing the
person and the Office of the President into disrepute… parking and landing fees
were waived as the flight was misrepresented to be official... The absence of
#SARS at the base when the flight arrived has emerged as a concern. - @Jacanews

16:37 - @Jacanews tweets: #GuptaGateReport: says “This was a serious
infringement of diplomatic protocol. The Indian High Commission admitted as
much”... Lieutenant Colonel Anderson stated that ''Number1'' WAS aware of the
(wedding) request.. Amounting to misrepresentation …

15:58 - Charl du Plessis: On May 13, the DG said the President did not give
instructions to Koloane ... On 2 April, Koloane contacted the Defence
Minister's political advisor: (Koloane) stated that he was under pressure from
No. 1.

15:55 - Charl du Plessis: #GuptaReport Ntshisi asked for something
in writing, to which Koloane said that "the challenge was that this could
not be put in writing"... Koloane (Chief of Protocol) told Sergeant Major
Ntshisi that the minister of defence had no objections.

15:52 - Charl du Plessis tweets: According to #GuptaGateReport Koloane told the Air Force
that the Transport Min. was instructed by the "President to assist the
Guptas".

15:50 - Phillip de Wet?: That last is a direct contradiction to what the Indian High
Commission said yesterday. #Guptagate

15:48 - Phillip de Wet tweets: Paydirt. One India (state) minister had official meeting
with Free State govt - three days before #Guptagate plane landed. So no cover
there.

15:40 - Debate concludes. House adjourns.

15:39 - Mcgluwa raising point of order, asking whether it's parliamentary for Pandor to refer to President as Zuma

15:37 - James Styan tweets: Pandor says the party that claims it fought apartheid actually was formed after apartheid. Pandor says the DA is making the public protector into their own "detective
inspector".

15:35 - Pandor: We have investigated the matter. Report now public. Those who read it will see that the DG's task team did an excellent job... went beyond.

15:34 - MP asks Pandor to withdraw remarks about opposition parties who run to the public protector.

15:33 - Pandor getting shouted down with calls of "you knew" and "who stamped the passports", tweets James Styan.

15:30 - Pandor: Opposition consumed by hatred of President Zuma. Tragic that MPs fail to rise above political interests.

15:29 - Pandor: We should not rush to find everyone guilty in our narrow political agenda.

15:27 - Pandor: No country can thrive if it has senior public servers ready to sell their country to the highest bidder.

15:25 - Pandor: It is clear from report minister has provided that this landing fell outside established norms, rules broken, authorities breached.

15:24 - Pandor: Maynier has been on a fishing expedition since he joined parliament, hoping he'd catch big one for elections . Lekota has been angry since 2007. He spends so much time in court he has lost touch with reality.

15:23 - Pandor: Those who speak the truth are always feared... They (opposition) will not allow speakers of the majority party to speak. They're afraid of it because it does not suit their intentions. They are not interested in the truth.

15:22 - Naledi Pandor at the podium.

15:22 - Kohler-Barnard: minutes of meeting used as confetti. Sr ANC leader says for flouting of regulations, Zuma must have instructed...This is going to lead to us being downgraded again just as we have been downgraded in eyes of world.

15:21 - Carien du Plessis tweets: Now @DKB20 from DA on. A little birdie, or rather, FB, told me she can't wait to lay into the police. Speaks untweetably fast ... I wonder how long @DKB20 practised this speech because she speaks poetically but faster than a rapper.

15:01 - Van Wyk: ANC will guard over our hard won freedom. I thank you. Carien du Plessis tweets:MPs are also confused. FF Plus asks Max Sisulu if report has been tabled. Sisulu says once he receives it, it is #Guptadebate

14:59 - Van Wyk: We accept the opposition is suffering from a serious case of election fever and government envy...The ANC is not for sale. Our country is not for sale. No to big business or other countries.

14:59 - Carien du Dlessis ?tweets: Van Wyk's speech is so impassioned that I fear at times that she will lose her English.

14:58 - Van Wyk: We should guard ourselves against abuse of power by those with money. Luxury vehicles speed without number plates.

14:57 - Van Wyk says opposition will do anything to illegitimise government. Criticised report even before it came out...

14:50 - Why would Koloane have risked his career? Was there a compensation? There are too many contradictions for the ACDP to believe, says Meshoe.

14:49 - Meshoe: We want to know why blame is placed mainly on two officials...We want to know why the Gupta family is not charged. Are the Gupta's lying or is the report full of blatant lies?

14:47 - Now
speaking Kenneth Meshoe ACDP President.

14:46 - I have a message for the president Learn from the past...If SA continues with their friendship with the Guptas they'll be Finish and Klaar.

14:46 - The DA's hands are also dirty, says Groenewald. Carien du Plessis tweets: "DA isn't clean, your hands are also dirty if Helen Zille said she had the best curry at Guptas that she's ever had #Guptadebate"

14:45 - Government created a security breach in SA and they're responsible.

14:43 - Holomisa - A lot of things don't add up in Gupta report. If not national key point, why line ministers up to investigate?

14:42 - Holomisa: It's to be expected from government that investigated itself. Government has allowed Guptas to use DPE as cash cow for business breakfasts.

14:41 - UDM's Bantu Holomisa at the podium. He says, "It is neo-colonialism of a special kind."

14:39 - Rebecca Davis tweets: Some of these MPs at the parliamentary Gupta debate have a look in their eyes I recognize from the mirror when I'm waiting to do karaoke.

14:39 - McGluwa: What happened to the customs officials? ... How much money did we lose because of the hiccup in your department?

14:38 - McGluwa: I find it hard to believe nobody in Cabinet knew who was arriving and why... All airlines supposed to provide info about who is on board within 15 minutess of taking off. Why did SA not pick it up?

14:37 - ID's Joe McGluwa up on the podium. "I have never seen the ANC so embarrassed in my life."

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