Seriously there is a major problem with this team and this year I think you will see a major move. Edler or Kesler and Luongo will be gone to get some different blood on this team. Not saying they are the reason for the melt down but there is only so much you can do with the same players year after year.

Time for a coaching change, 2 presidents trophy means jack shit when you get blown out like they did this season. A good coach mixes things up and sees where changes need to be made, the PP is god awful and has been for how long and nothing was done to change it up.

Reefer2 wrote:But that is not how the NHL is designed to play (based upon MG idea)

Seriously there is a major problem with this team and this year I think you will see a major move. Edler or Kesler and Luongo will be gone to get some different blood on this team. Not saying they are the reason for the melt down but there is only so much you can do with the same players year after year.

Time for a coaching change, 2 presidents trophy means jack shit when you get blown out like they did this season. A good coach mixes things up and sees where changes need to be made, the PP is god awful and has been for how long and nothing was done to change it up.

No shit, AV has to go. What is the point of having Kassian when he plays 6 minutes? Raymond despite being useless over and over again get the icetime over a big body like Kassian... The kid might be raw but he can use his size to open it up for Burrows and Henrik. Instead, Raymond fell over and over again with the puck.

Speaking of Edler, he has to be the goat of the series. 2 bad giveaways to lead to two goals. Less than two minutes of the play, he fired the puck over the glass to singlehandedly destroy any chances of coming back. He just can't handle the top minutes without making some brain farts.

Reefer2 wrote:But that is not how the NHL is designed to play (based upon MG idea)

Seriously there is a major problem with this team and this year I think you will see a major move. Edler or Kesler and Luongo will be gone to get some different blood on this team. Not saying they are the reason for the melt down but there is only so much you can do with the same players year after year.

Time for a coaching change, 2 presidents trophy means jack shit when you get blown out like they did this season. A good coach mixes things up and sees where changes need to be made, the PP is god awful and has been for how long and nothing was done to change it up.

No shit, AV has to go. What is the point of having Kassian when he plays 6 minutes? Raymond despite being useless over and over again get the icetime over a big body like Kassian... The kid might be raw but he can use his size to open it up for Burrows and Henrik. Instead, Raymond fell over and over again with the puck.

Speaking of Edler, he has to be the goat of the series. 2 bad giveaways to lead to two goals. Less than two minutes of the play, he fired the puck over the glass to singlehandedly destroy any chances of coming back. He just can't handle the top minutes without making some brain farts.

kassian is way too green to be taking Mayray's minutes. his one shift in the third would give any coach a heart attack

This isn't a lot here I can disagree with other than the fact we still have a small life line left. I know its highly improbable but I'm still willing to sacrifice a goat to whichever puck gods are angry.

In my opinion, short of a massive comback, wholesale changes are coming, starting with the coaching staff. AV and crew won't survive a first round exit. After that the player moves are debatable. We are still in it, but that's my take on the immediate future.

As for the taking of liberties, its an easy investment when the other team can't/won't kill you in return OR is O-fer on the PP.

I don't think a huge change is needed, 1 of the top 10, Luongo (but we have seen this for a while) and AV.

I know that sounds like a lot but compared to what some other teams have done, this is just fine tuning the team.

Based upon my breakfast meeting with the Canucks last week (just a meet and great with a vendor I deal with and with 60 others) they seem to be trying to deal with these issues (Kesler diving) but if it ain't working then time to make a trade.

Canuck management should have learned from last year that politically correct hockey goes out the window in the playoffs. Brown took advantage of a team that seems to do nothing more than yap when it's best players are leveled. Full credit to Sedin for getting up after the Brown hit, and more credit that he came back and played.

Unfortunately when you're down 2-0 and in a tight game retaliation may not be an option, but when you are getting pushed around it soon becomes the only option.

Arbour wrote:Canuck management should have learned from last year that politically correct hockey goes out the window in the playoffs. Brown took advantage of a team that seems to do nothing more than yap when it's best players are leveled. Full credit to Sedin for getting up after the Brown hit, and more credit that he came back and played.

Unfortunately when you're down 2-0 and in a tight game retaliation may not be an option, but when you are getting pushed around it soon becomes the only option.

This years playoffs are even worse than last year for politically correct hockey going out the window.Pitt/Phil and Rangers/Sens are much more violent.Webers fine was/is a joke,and its only the first round. I can't fault the Canucks for building the team the way they have. Who would predict officiating like this after all the concussion/head shot discussion during the last couple of seasons?

ukcanuck wrote:kassian is way too green to be taking Mayray's minutes. his one shift in the third would give any coach a heart attack

What the hell was Gillis thinking on trade deadline day?

I don't doubt that Kassian could turn into an excellent player 18-24 months from now (Gragnani as well), but why not make that deal in the off-season?

Where was Kassian when Brown nailed Henrik? Or when Keith nailed Daniel?

I imagine the thinking is that Kassian is a blue chip prospect on the cusp it making it full time in the show. Players like that cost no matter what time of year. As for wanting a plug in piece to win NOW at all costs...There's an expression for that, "short sighted" I want the cup too but not so we can go back 40 years of suckage the year after.