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--------------------See I used to be a mustard seed shouting at the mountain I used to hang my head when it stayed far from the ocean I used to claim its failure and from the depths of depression I cried to god but god did not respond

Like a barrel chested strongman I suspended disbelief I held it high over my head though all the weight was staggering But legs buckled and muscles burned, in came gravity I dropped it all, faced what I'd been avoiding

Quote:superhigh said:Whiskey has 20-30% more alcohol than vodka. Also, I'm only going to be shooting less than ONE MILLILITER (the size of the syringe) of vodka.

I have some whisky. It has 37% alcohol. I have some vodka. It has 50% alcohol. I have some other vodka. It has 37.5% alcohol. But please don't inject yourself with alcohol (or maybe do, I don't actually give a shit.)

But WHY does everyone think this is a crazy idea, when black tar heroin, a fuckin' crude black resiny substance is commonly injected? The only difference between marijuana and black tar is the heroin inside the resin is highly water soluble whereas cannabinoids aren't water soluble. But they're alcohol soluble. Soak that shit in alcohol and inject it. What's the big deal? The only reason I didn't do it a week and a half ago when I had weed was because I witnessed my friend break it up with his unwashed hands. Next time I get weed I'm doing it.

its not crazy. do it. just do us a favor and give a friend your sn and password on here because if you die, we will want closure on situation.

seriously though, just do your research. if you thoroughly research it, think it will work, and think its safe, then go for it. if you have reasonable doubts that its not safe, dont do it. i dont think anyone here has tried this, so our opinions are just anecdotal. be smart about it and figure it out for yourself.

just a thought; your thinking of doing an alcohol extraction and shooting it up right? since the majority of the concerns presented here seem to be about injecting alcohol, perhaps you could look into doing that extraction, letting the alcohol evaporate, mixing the remainder into saline, and inject that. but i think you would need to do more than that, because the cannabinoids need heat to become more active, i believe. perhaps thats another pitfall in your plan, that thc and the like need heat to become active in the human body. thats why we cant just eat or insufflate cannabis (or inject). idk, just thinking out loud, so to speak.

--------------------My words, too, are only an echo; but there is no reason why I should not repeat what I have heard. -Socrates Let the rabbits wear glasses!

Quote:zombi said:just a thought; your thinking of doing an alcohol extraction and shooting it up right? since the majority of the concerns presented here seem to be about injecting alcohol, perhaps you could look into doing that extraction, letting the alcohol evaporate, mixing the remainder into saline, and inject that. but i think you would need to do more than that, because the cannabinoids need heat to become more active

Marijuana does not need to be activated by heat. The THC -- and perhaps other cannabinoids -- is bound to a carboxyl group in freshly harvested marijuana. This gives it a poor bioavailability. Thoroughly drying marijuana decarboxylates it. Most weed sold isn't dried to the maximum degree, thus most weed isn't completely bioavailable. Burning weed instantly decarboxylates it. So, no, high levels of heat aren't necessary to "activate" weed. In fact, desiccant in a dark cold room is sufficient.

The whole point of putting marijuana in alcohol is to get it into solution. Evaporating the alcohol would take it out of solution. And then you'd have hash and it would be like chucking hash into water. And you'd be injecting a combo of oily resin and water. I'm not saying it's not possible. I even posted a report of someone injecting Marinol, which is THC mixed in sesame oil. However, I'm more comfortable with dissolving in alcohol.

I would STRONGLY advise against injecting ethanol no matter how small the amount. Use sterile needles, swab the skin with alcohol, inject a sterile solution, and start low maybe 1/20th or even less of the smoking/oral dose equivalent.

--------------------"Life without freedom is not life... freedom is life."

Quote:zombi said:whatever. heat isnt be necessary, but it potentiates it. if you think its a good idea, then do it already.

beyond decarboxylation, heat can only destroy it.

Superhigh, I think the biggest concern is the fact that if you inject alcohol you are likely to overdose on it. I haven't done all the research, so if you have and you think its cool, then go for it. I'm actually surprised the bump wasn't a trip report.