Is Government Ethics Director Playing Politics With Trump?
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01/11/2017.

Walter Shaub, who runs the Office of Government Ethics, has made quite a bit of noise over the last month regarding President-elect Donald Trump, his business holdings, and the people he’s chosen to populate his executive Cabinet. Over the weekend, the office released a statement condemning the Republicans for rushing the confirmation hearings, telling lawmakers […]

Walter Shaub, who runs the Office of Government Ethics, has made quite a bit of noise over the last month regarding President-elect Donald Trump, his business holdings, and the people he’s chosen to populate his executive Cabinet. Over the weekend, the office released a statement condemning the Republicans for rushing the confirmation hearings, telling lawmakers […]

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Is Government Ethics Director Playing Politics With Trump?

Walter Shaub, who runs the Office of Government Ethics, has made quite a bit of noise over the last month regarding President-elect Donald Trump, his business holdings, and the people he’s chosen to populate his executive Cabinet. Over the weekend, the office released a statement condemning the Republicans for rushing the confirmation hearings, telling lawmakers that they needed more time to properly vet members up for Cabinet positions.

But according to the conservative group America Rising, Shaub’s protests have less to do with ethics and more to do with his political beliefs. In an interview with Fox News, the PAC’s rapid response director criticized Shaub for his lack of interest in Hillary Clinton’s unethical and illegal behavior.

The PAC claims that the Office of Government Ethics demonstrated “utter incompetence” when asked by House Republicans to verify then-Secretary of State Clinton’s income. In a 2015 House Oversight Committee hearing, Shaub told Republican lawmakers that his office was not compelled to disclose the requested material.

From Fox News:

At the time of the Clinton questions, Republicans complained Clinton had not disclosed compensation for at least five speeches that was then sent to the Clinton Foundation between 2014 and 2015. They pressed the OGE for answers, but Shaub told the House oversight committee the funds were not required to be disclosed.

Shaub’s statement this weekend gave ammunition to Democrats, who are very interested in slowing Trump’s confirmation hearings to a crawl. Sen. Chuck Schumer, the Senate Minority Leader, referred to the letter in a statement this week calling on the GOP to put the brakes on.

“The Senate and American people deserve to know that these cabinet nominees have a plan to avoid any conflicts of interest, that they’re working on behalf of the American people and not their own bottom line, and that they plan to fully comply with the law,” Schumer said. “Senate Republicans should heed the advice of this independent office and stop trying to jam through unvetted nominees.”

Since then, Republicans have indeed spread the schedule out so that lawmakers will have more time to put nominees through the confirmation process.

In the meantime, we’ll see if Shaub and the ethics office can finish their work without any further public outbursts.

jgfsmf

How long are they supposed to wait to vet the cabinet members? A couple years? Hey idiot. There’s only 8 more days till Trump is president. Live with it.

Hgeyer

How long did they take to vet Obama’s Supreme Court nominee?

jgfsmf

The supreme court is a little different than cabinet members who need to be on the job on January 20.

Hgeyer

YES! They should have been on the job 8 months ago!

Elie Challita

I wanted to see the transcripts from Hillary’s speeches during the election as well, although we could all take a pretty good guess of what they were about. However, a few paid speeches really cannot compare to billions of dollars in real estate investments.
The question isn’t simply about Trump’s disclosure: Shaub’s recent statements were about the necessity of Trump completely selling off his empire because it is impossible for him to insulate himself from a conflict of interest otherwise. Even if he is not directly managing the company, he would know that Qatar or Colombia or whomever was offering preferential deals to businesses that he is heavily invested in, and those countries would know that they could always influence him by doing so.
The man spent his entire life trying to squeeze out every dime he could: what makes you think he will suddenly stop caring about that on January 21st?

Peatro Giorgio

Here’s the legal,point No where in feferal law or other wise is Trump required to sell off his holdings .As for a blind Trust that also is not a legal requirement .Trump has fulfilled his eithical obligations to seperate himself from conflicts of interest. So F the demo-rats an the all the hate filled bitter malcontents.

Elie Challita

How has he fulfilled his ethical obligations when the measures he is taking are completely ineffective to insulate him from conflicts of interest?

Lyndau123

You are one f ing DOPE! Go play in your mama’s basement, retard!

Peatro Giorgio

For one thing there is no Constitutional or federal law requiring Trump to sell off or seperate himself from his Legally owned bussinesss . After all our Founding Father George Washington retained all his business holdings. With in the frame work of the Constitution conflicts of interest are where one either profits or supports in some way another nation or makes profit from anot her nation. Period. Placing hid entire business interest in his 2 sons total controled resolves the conflict of interest . Further more he has also restricted his sons from forming or profiting from foriegn goverments. Therefore Trump has met all legal requirements so you dumbo rats can go scratch ass

Elie Challita

So you would have been ok with Hillary Clinton still running the Clinton Foundation if she had been elected? Or would it be ok if she had simply handed it over to Chelsea? Would you have had any complaints then?

mrpoohead

Nearly got it – well done. Think you will find you need to add contracts within the US too.

barnjoer

??has every previous president or senator or house member completely sold off their businesses when they took office? I think not

No, but all of them put the majority of their holdings in a blind trust, especially presidents, and are obligated to recuse themselves in the presence of a conflict of interest. That’s impossible for Trump because his business, as it is, is so widely distributed that he will always know whether he’s affecting it or not with his policies, and other political actors will know that they can butter him up by catering to his business

Lying about what, exactly? That most other presidents put their money in a blind trust? Or that Trump’s diverse holdings mean that he can’t really be free of conflicts of interest?

rfrichey

That’s the point, Trump has the knowledge too make our country profitable by squeezing out every dime of our governments money. There is so much waste and fraud now that can be turned into paying down our debt that has continually spiraled out of control. Yes, I do think he can stop thinking about “that” on Jan. 21st. We will just have to wait and see.

Elie Challita

1- Governments aren’t supposed to be profitable. They’re supposed to be effective. By your logic, we should cut all non-military and infrastructural spending.
2- Apparently the debt only started mattering on Jan 1st 2008. I can’t recall Republicans complaining about it before that.
3- What makes you so sure he won’t put his own interests first, when that’s literally what he’s done his entire life?

rfrichey

The government is like a business. If your business is spending more than it’s taking in then it’s in the red, and the only way to get out of the red is to make a profit to pay down on your debt. That’s what I meant about being profitable. I ran my own business for 35 years before selling and retiring. The military and infrastructure would be the same as upkeep of property and equipment in a private business so you have to plan ahead. As far as what makes me sure about your question is exactly what you said, His interest as of next week will be America. Look at what the Clintons and Obama were worth before politics and look at their worth today. Trump is not there to feather his on nest as it is feathered already.

Elie Challita

Actually he’s in the perfect position to feather his nest and that of his acolytes. Not by looting the coffers directly, but simply by slashing tax rates on his holdings and authorizing mergers and other business ventures that would screw over everyone but the major shareholders in their companies.

Lyndau123

Are you stupid or just a plain IGNORANT and a hole?

rfrichey

Just hide and watch, I think a lot of people just can’t believe there is someone who really has the countries best interest at heart. With every libtard democrat in the world trying too make it hard for him to do what he was hired to do it will be tough. I can’t see a politician fixing something they broke, we need a business man. If Trump can’t do it we can fire him in four years.

Elie Challita

Wait, what? Conservatives are now accusing us of trying to obstruct and delegitimize a president?
That’s rich.

rfrichey

Actually, it’s Richey R.F.
We have never had a president with anything near Trumps holdings so there’s no precedent. They cannot be compared too a fraudulent foundation.

Elie Challita

So it’s OK when your boy does it for his business, but wrong when it’s done for a foundation with a stellar track record?

rfrichey

I should have listened to my parents closer. They told me never argue with slower learning people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

Elie Challita

Yeah, given the crowd you’re in here it seems you didn’t listen to her very much.
Just asking, why do you think that the foundation is fraudulent while Trump’s business is pure as the driven snow?

Lyndau123

Just because you Demoncraps LIE so much! That’s why. Know NOTHINGs and LIARS! You are proving that every day you breathe!!

Rob D

Yea Elie, that’s BS. We don’t care what Trump owns considering BO came from literally ‘nothing” and now leaves the office as a rich man. Like the fox guarding the hen house; if you want integrity put someone with experience in making money in charge.

Elie Challita

You do realize that Obama and his wife were lawyers for years, that congressmen have a pretty good yearly salary, and that presidents have an even better one, right?
Obama put his earnings in a blind trust, and any half-decent investor would’ve done pretty well with that.
If you have a complain about his earnings, please, show us some evidence.

Why would I trust Trump with the office? His only pursuits so far have been money and his own ego.

Lyndau123

LAWYERS who BOTH lost their licenses for FRAUD! Killary did as well. Neither has held a law license for years! Look it up, MORON! And QUIT LYING!

Elie Challita

Ok, you actually have any proof of that fraud? People like you should be locked up for libel, for fuck’s sake.

tCotUS

Walter Shaub, by giving Hillary a free pass should be tared & feathered, then run off the Hill(so to speak). , Shaub served as a staff attorney at the Department of Veterans Affairs & look what a mess that turned out to be. Of course he was nominated by O”vomit himself..And the wonderful gOP Rino’s who gave O’vomit just about everything he asked for approved Shaub. Just another piece of Hill trojan horse Democratic dung that must be removed.

Askjrsk

This will come out into new investigation.

tCotUS

I certainly hope so..

rivahmitch

No surprises here. The PoS is an appointee of the Kenyan muslim/marxist so it it naturally PC (Politically Corrupt). Schaub should be fired (or hanged) on January 20th.

With a Ph.D. in Leadership Studies, my research, dissertation, and published work is in Business Ethics. Matter of fact, I published one peer-reviewed article on the “Ethics of Obamacare”. All that to “vet” my opinion as I change demeanor…the Government Ethics Office would’t know ethics if it bit them on the A$$! If “politicians” don’t understand “ethics” before election, they ain’t gonna’ and should simply be replaced at the first opportunity. It is simply another agency that should be absent after we drain the swamp.

Hgeyer

So you agree that Trump should be replaced at the first opportunity! Couldn’t agree more!

Gerry Costa

Go back to drinking your kool-aid and return to your 8 year coma.

Askjrsk

It’s a tranny troll

Myoldglory

Man I’m sure glad Im not the only one who thinks that

Askjrsk

Thankyou

junkmailbin

a bit bitter about hilary and the dems getting their arse stomped into the ground , buckey??

Hgeyer

Hardly “stomped into the ground” with three million more votes than Putin’s new lapdog!

Mike Thomas

Where may I ask did those 3 million more votes came from, California & New York. So you believe those two states should dictate who runs the country? That is why we have the electorate college so everyone’s vote from all the country has a voice, not just the perverted idiots that live in two states.

Hgeyer

Those votes came from the states were the people are! YOU think 3 million people’s votes don’t count simply because they live in a big state? If Trump got three million more votes than Hillary and lost you Trumpanzees would have burned the country to the ground but NOW you support minority rule! You are sad excuses for “patriots”!

jaybird

If it wasn’t for the Electoral College, the Liberals would always win. The Liberals are the ones trying to burn the country down with their violent protests. The reasons that the Democrats are giving against Sessions are without facts, I have been watching the confirmation hearings.

You are a dyed in the wool Democrat and will not change yoru mind on anything. I think Comey did what he did because he was afraid of how Hillary would finish destroying our great country if she won. He has known her since Whitewater scandal.

I vote for who I think will be good for our country and voted for JFK in the past.

Askjrsk

Hge a tranny troll that has time to waste. Has never known how to work

Lyndau123

Lives in his momma”s basement and plays with himself while repeating the Libtrud mantra of lies over and over and over again ad nauseum! He is mentally ill. It is so obvious!

Askjrsk

Be still my guts they’re aching from laughter induced pain.

Sandy devine

Not to mention I think someone from higher up told him to back off that’s why the conflicting remarks he made from the get go. He had no choice, just like so many including generals on down quit because they knew they had to because they did not agree with his ideology which is a Marxist!

Hgeyer

Your first statement is correct because the GREAT MAJORITY of real Americans are LIBERAL! Sad that you prefer a minority run government..

jaybird

I prefer a gov. that is interested in all the people.

Peatro Giorgio

Of course There are more lunatics, Liars, Thieves , Lazy ,deadbeat ,ignorant low life losers who support scumbags on the far left. Point in fact your all guilible idiots just look to Bernie supporters. Even as it became abondanetly clear ,the Clinton machine the DNC ,Scam machine fuck you all over . What did you all do? You all fell in line behind the Pied piper of idiots.The proceeded yo vote an support the very scum bernie claimed to be running against. Hey you are one with those who have continued to lie to you all , Steal from you all ,fucking you all over an over again an agian.

Hgeyer

Yes you are correct! Many Bernie supporters got behind Trump! They, “fell in line with the Pied piper of idiots” thanks for posting the obvious!

Lyndau123

They CAME from California and 100% were ILLEGAL ALIEN VOTERS! Very few states bothered to vote for your witch, MORON! Deal with it. YOU and Hollyweirdos were duped and brain washed. No sense of reality whatsoever, continue to LIE, repeating the Libturd Mantras over and over again thinking it you say it often enough people will believe you. Well let me tell you this! WE DO NOT believe a word you say and no SANE person will so STFU! Just go back into your cave and play with yourself!

Dan Lloret

to repeat: JACKASS, WHY should the rest of the country be forced to live by your values? If the tables were turned and Nebraska/Montana were bigger than Cali/New York, you would have a bird if their candidate won by popular vote. And what have the supporters of the “party of inclusion” done since they lost?…..oh yeah, tried to “burn the country to the ground”. And I can reassure you chicken little, the sky is not going to fall with Trump as Pres. Stop acting like a frightened little girl and grow up.

Sandy devine

Honey please go look again, those 3 million votes came from California a huge state like that other person wrote you that’s why we have electoral votes so
This country doesn’t become a one party country , you know. Communist!!! Certain states like Ca. And NY are with high ldopje populace so yes they roils out. Bet many
States in this country.. besides, these
Two states are sanctuary city’s that they have hand
taken to vote by illegals so naturally there could easily be two million votes by illegal aliens and thats not constitutional right… that takes our votes away, us, the American!!!!!!!

Hgeyer

People from big states don’t get their votes counted because you don’t like how they voted? There is absolutely no evidence of voter fraud ( illegals voting ) so unless YOU have proof you can stop spreading that lie! Just cause Trump pulled that bull$hit statement out of his as$ doesn’t make it true ! Trump supplied absolutely NO EVIDENCE to support that lie and it never happened!

ECwashr

Hgeyer, LIBERAL JACKASS OBAMA USEFUL IDIOT FOOL!!!! Obama has stated, ” I will need Useful Idiots to accomplish my work “! He meant you Hgeyer!! You must be so proud!!

Hgeyer

Do you just pull these lies out of your AS$ Or do they fall out on their own?

ECwashr

You Liberals know all about LIES, thats all you do LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE!!! How bout some more TRUTH? America under Obama, the WORST EVER!! Highest food prices EVER!! Highest unemployment EVER!! Worse race relations since the 60s! Police officers being murdered in the streets!! Middle East in total chaos, Obama/Hillary help create and fund ISIS!! Obama hates Isreal/Christians! Obama plays golf while Christians being slaughtered in the Middle East!! Obama bringing in terrorist disguised as “refugees”! Most of Obama’s administration made up of Muslim Brotherhood members!! Obama a FRAUD from Kenya, not even eligible to be American President! Scandel after scandel, IRS, Verizon, NSA, Benghazi, Solyndra, Fast N Furious, etc. Obama, easily the WORST President in U.S. History!! How did you escape the Koolaid lines of Jonestown Hgeyer? I’ve seen you on the History channel standing in the streets of Berlin in the 1930s with you right hand in the air, SIEG HEIL MEIN FUHRER OBAMA!! Obama lowers your standard of living, destroys your nation for 8 years, yet you continue to LIE and make EXCUSES for him!! You sir are some kind of stupid!!

Hgeyer

If you are going to post thing try a little truth! It will set you free you lying sack of $hit!

ECwashr

LIBERAL FOOOOOOOL!!!!

Hgeyer

That’s how you confront reality?

ECwashr

REALITY?? Since when do Liberals live in Reality? NEVER!! Reality is Obama is THE WORST EVER!! The entire nation falling apart, the world and the middle east in chaos (because of Obama) and what is mucho important to Ovomit? “We need to get transgenders in any bathroom they please”! You can’t make this shit up! Transgenders make up less than 1% the population! Obama is a transgender, thats why this was so important to him. Now one question for you Liberal FOOL man, it is more than obvious we cannot both occupy this great nation. Christians like myself love it, Libs like you hate it. So why don’t you start a movement to get all Libs to California? That would work out great!! You won’t, you know why you won’t? Because you would have no one to blame for failed Liberal policies. Liberal policies always fail. Just look at Detroit, run by nothing but Libs since 1962, OVER 55 years of nothing but liberalism!! Detroit is the biggest shit hole in the nation next to Chicago, run by libs also of course, you can buy a house in Detroit for $800!! Liberals are pathological LIARS, “Hillary, Obama”, they need to blame us for their failures, ” its Bush’s fault, it’s those Christians, it’s those ticket kiosk at the airport, those shovel ready jobs weren’t ready, it’s the damn GOP”! I love the last one, everyone one of those bastards sold us down the drain and stuck their head up Obama’s ass for 8 years. Obama can’t blame anyone but himself, THE WORST EVER! Thank GOD the nightmare is over!!

Hgeyer

Glad to know you believe all the lies that your puppet master told you! I’m sure in four years you will still be blaming Obama when trump has run our country into the ground just like bush! When was the Great Depression? 1929, one year after the republicans got control of the house, senate and White House! When was the last depression? 2008, right after the republicans got control of the house , senate and White House… When is our NEXT depression? The year after republicans got control of the house , senate and White House! That would be a year from the 20th of THIS month…. let me know how it works out for you suckers!

ECwashr

I have no puppet master, don’t watch Fox or any other news. I’m college educated, HISTORY, love history, thats my subject. Thats how I knew who obama was from day one! A lowlife POS scumbag moooslim from Kenya who HATES America. Obama has never, or could ever run a Hot Dog Stand. He left Chicago with the worst crime rate in America, highest murder rate in America, THE WORST Education system in America! And what do you libs say, “HEY lets take this clown and put him in the white house”!! Obama has stated, ” I will need USEFUL IDIOTS to destroy America”, He meant YOU!! And by the way, we have been in a depression since Obama took over. His phony economic stimulus wasn’t spent on the economy, he funded ISIS and his moooslim terrorist pals with it!! Look at his administration, Muslim Brotherhood members make up a good bit of it. The Muslim Brotherhood sworn objective is to destroy Israel and America, YOU LIVE IN AMERICA!! They don’t care that you voted for HUSSIEN Obama, Obama doesn’t care that you voted for him!! Your right, I will be blaming Obama the rest of my life, he did his job well, our nation is on the verge of collapse, economically, socially, racially, thats what a Community Organizer does. Joe Stalin was a Community Organizer for Lenin!! Look it up. Of course don’t ask MSNBC, ABC, CNN, CBS, NBC all the Obama loving networks, not truth can be found there. Thats it my Liberal Fool pal. Don’t write back, I’m just deleting it. Liberals do not deserve a second of my precious time. I havn’t heard a word HUSSIEN da mooooslim has said in 8 years and I’m damn proud of that. Now get back to the Obama Koolaid lines!!

Hgeyer

Get all your mis-information from listening to morons like Trump I guess… tell me when your “useful idiots” statement came from because nobody has any proof that THAT ever happened! I guess it because you pull all your news right out of your A$$!

bjpurg

Yes and most were from Californication where illegals were allowed to vote! I wish they would do a recount in CA so we can throw out the illegal voter ballots and the multitude of dead! Do that and Trumps victory is a landslide!

Hgeyer

FYI ! Illegals can’t vote in ANY state! Do you have evidence that someone illegal voted? Please post your information because nobody has seen ANY information that supports yours (and Trump’s) lie!

Lyndau123

PROVEN LIE! The three miliion was found in California when Governor Moonbeam gave out 3 MILLION Drivers licenses to ILLEGAL aliens to vote for your serial murdering, corrupt, LYING, contemptible, Money Laundering, traitor Killary!

Hgeyer

Yes! What you posted IS a “PROVEN LIE” Thanks for pointing it out!

ECwashr

First time in eight years I am proud to be an American again. DRAIN THE SWAMP!! Kick ALL Liberals out of the nation!!

Hgeyer

Trump drained the swamp yet kept all the swamp dwellers and refilled it again! What a sucker you are… Hope you are proud of what trump and his trumpanzees are going to do to you!

Dan Lloret

Jackass, she only got the majority because she won California. Which is EXACTLY why the Electoral College was created, as there are 50 states in this country rather than half a dozen on the East & West coasts. As even the NYT acknowledged, all you Libtards never bothered to get out of your bubbles, and engage with the deplorables in the rest of the country. So we said f__k you and your candidate, and, you came up short. Suck it up and get over it.

desert fox

Hey, troll,They all ready proved in three states there were more than 3,000,000 illegal votes and that was without California. And remember the report of tens of thousands of killary votes discovered in a warehouse in Michigan before the early elections were started. You’re just a ash whole that is still burning—but demoncrats like that so just bend over for obama.

Hgeyer

Please post that proof because nobody else in the world has seen it!

Askjrsk

Hge a tranny troll

AmericanBelle1

Trump has more ethics in his pinky than Obama’s had in his entire life, if at all! I suggest you crawl back into your safe space.

Hgeyer

Only in your wildest dreams! Obama has NEVER been sued for fraud! Obama has never paid anyone 25 million dollars because of that fraud! Obama has NEVER filed bankruptcy and screwed his investors out of millions of dollars! Obama has never been charged with discrimination against minority’s by the DOJ… I surprised you haven’t run out of air in that bubble you’re living in !

Eternal Vigilance

Obama has never done anything that involved personal risk!

Hgeyer

Like getting running for president….

ECwashr

OBAMA, Easily THE WORST President EVER!! A total DISGRACE and EMBARRASSMENT!!

jimshaw54

Hgeyer: Like sealing up as much information about his past as possible so no one knows much about him, presenting a fake (yes, it is a fake) birth certificate, voting “present” so that no one can know what he actually believes, and the list goes on. And now he has fired the Commanding Officer of the D.C. National Guard (to take place exactly to the seconds before his presidency is over). With the threats of violence against Trump, the timing of when the D.C. National Guard no longer has a Commanding Officer seems just a mite suspicious.

Hgeyer

The “fake” birth certificate that has been authenticated by virtually every intelligent person on the planet? Stop being a moron and believing the lies that idiots tell you!

Betty

Obama said he was broke when he ran for President now his great wealth has been mentioned how did he get it with the millions he and his family spent on their “vacations” at the expense of the American people At leasst Trump refuses to take a salary and is donating all the profits from his for hotel to the US treasury he my help out the people running him down like yoy

David in MA

I wonder if he got kick-backs from hotels, golf courses, and of course there are the illegal free plane rides for him and his tranny wife and Islamic rent-a-kid props.

Lyndau123

Hgeyer – No, he just put our nation in to $$$$Trillions of debt with his incompetence and ignorance and spent our taxpayer dollars for his lavish vacations 300 golf games and to provide IRAN with nuclear power and PAID ISIS to kill our military! Meanwhile 95 MILLION without jobs and 1/2 of America on food stamps! He facilitated the stupidity and murders of Libya and Benghazi, divided our nation back into the 19th century with his race baiting and cop killing enthusiasm, and made us totally unsafe! HE NEVER addressing hacking until he could use it for Political fodder to try to destroy Trump before he even takes his oath! Obama is the WORST ILLEGAL ALIEN POS POTUS EVER in our history and nearly 60 million Americans have SAID so! YOU STINK!

ECwashr

THATS HILARIOUS LIBERAL FOOL!! The fact that you would be dumb enough to mention HUSSIEN Da MOOOOSLIM Obama from Kenya in the same sentence with the word FRAUD!! I’m still laughing, you libs are seriously mentally ill..

Sandy devine

Beyond stupid, just plain easily brainwashed and that’s dangerous how easily they did it huh?

Dan Lloret

Obama has never run a business, never had a private sector job besides being a lawyer; in other words he had NO experience in managing finances….clueless. If you never get in the game you won’t break the “rules”. And despite the suits etc., Trump STILL provided/provides jobs for a LOT of people, jobs that last

Faye O’Dell

No, you are right but he is a community organizer. What does that mean? Teaching them how to protest, etc.

Myoldglory

How about the homo and his man wife that both of them had to surrender their law license before they were pulled from both of them .look that up dumb ass. Plus did you know that Ohomo was or might still be a suspect in the murder of Donald Young. Since the case is still open he just might answer to that one some day. Donald Yaung and two other black gay men who had sexual relations with your Barry all were murdered, and all with in sixty days of Barry’s presidential election in 2007. Right around Christmas. Read all about it moron. And while you’re at it look up Obama’s Mans Country. It’s been said that BArry and the Chicago moron who is now mayor, both of them a life time carrying members of MAns Country. You might also stumble upon a story about how he always picked up older white gay men in Chicago bars. Sure he’s a wonderful guy and all you idiots who have supported him the last eight years have gotten nothing in return except 750 dead people in his own town. Not much of any help from i might say but you idiots are so sure he’s the greatest. Just plain stupid. The ones making the most noise is all you gay people out there.

lha

Ohomo’s never had a job,and doesn’t even have a Law license,nor does Michael.

Hgeyer

Senator and President are both jobs! It’s also a full time job just defending himself from all the lies people like you keep telling about him and his family! Stop believing and spreading all the lies! It’s UNAMERICAN!

Sandy devine

So I ask you were did all those trillions he borrowed and we have to replace till our grandkids are in their grave! Where is the money?? Yup, one trillion towards Bushes war .. oh yeah his ( obama) net worth getting vetted was 170 grand, he also got two million from who knows where to pay that law firm to hide all his records. So we know he couldn’t use campaign funds so where did that money come from??? Ok, let’s move on darling. Now he’s leaving office. His yearly salary is 400grand a year so he leaves with a net worth over 17 million, his wife Michelle leaves with 16 + million and eldest daughter leaves with net worth of 1.7 million dollars!! And no record having worked neither he had a second job. Nor did wife and daughter have a job to amass this type money so again i ask, where did all those trillions and trillions of dollars go too and I certainly see absolutely see nothing
Done for our country to improve it yet we HAVE to pay all this money back with nothing to see for it!!! Where did all the money go???? And, now, he’s bought a big home in Chicago, I saw that palace he bought either in abudabi or dubai ?? Not sure which country, . Also heard he bought one in NY as well, a lot of homes on that salary huh… again, where did all those trillions he borrowed and the people have to pay back!

Hgeyer

When you post things you should really stick to the truth! Posting all these untrue statements just shows how gullible and ignorant you are…

curmudgeon VN Veteran

Do you breathe oxygen on your planet?

Hgeyer

Only until the climate change deniers like Trump destroy the atmosphere….

desert fox

The air will be a lot better as soon as they get the stench out of the White House. Yes, Trump will have to call in the shovelers to get all of the BS out.

Hgeyer

Because he’s bringing all HIS bull$hit with him!

desert fox

How come he never answered or appeared for any subpoena’s that were served on him…what ever happened to the murdered choirboy from Rev. wrongs church. His greatest accomplishment is he put the “N” word back into America’s vocabulary.

Hgeyer

How come you live in a fantasy world of lies and stupidity? The “N” word never left the American vocabulary! Racists just spoke it in private until their fear brought them out from under your rock! Seems like you would blame the Jews for the Holocaust! Stop being a moron!

desert fox

I would say you have been brainwashed – but that is impossible since you are a demoncrat.

Hgeyer

That’s right! WE don’t fall for all those lies that can’t be backed up with real evidence like those brain dead republicans…

David in MA

And probably because he is not an American citizen but an illegal immigrant.

Hgeyer

Please post any evidence to backup that lie because nobody in the world has been able to yet…

Askjrsk

Absolutely

chuckkel

When Obama was in the Illinois State Senate, he always voted ‘Present’, never for or against a bill except once. That bill, which he highly supported, was one that forced a abortion doctor to allow any accidential live birth to die.

Askjrsk

Dirtbag he is that Obama

Hgeyer

Another lie! Do you fools EVER post ANYTHING factual?

Dave

All of you Brain Dead communist, will soon be History.

mrpoohead

“Brain” – brain
“Dead” – dead
“History” – history

Me thinks you’ll be first on the list – duh!

Peatro Giorgio

Facts Factcheck.org Obama voted Present 129 times while serving as a state senator !
Factcheck.org Obama missed 314 votes while only serving 3 years as a US senator. For a record of absenteeism of in 64.4%.

mrpoohead

So what – is that normal? Is that unusual?

“Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona missed 62 percent of Senate votes over a year-long period when he was running for the GOP nomination in 2008, according to govtrack.us, which keeps tabs on who votes and who doesn’t. Of the 420 votes the Senate took, McCain was absent for 260.

Illinois Sen. Barack Obama skipped 45 percent of Senate votes during the same stretch on his way to the Democratic nod and eventually the presidency, or 189 missed votes out of 420.”

So, they’re all shit – irritating but that’s life!

Bird

The facts are: Obama voted ‘present’ RATHER than voting ‘yes’ or ‘no’ on certain bills, 130 times. This is done to show disapproval for a bill without having to be ‘held accountable’ later on…. possibly when running for a higher position. (It’s Obama’s MO when voting on a NATO decision against Israel also) Obama actually voted about 4,000 times and held the reputation as the ‘most extreme left’ Senator at the time!! It’s no wonder the Democrat’s lost the election; they seem to have the belief that they are the only people who are allowed a voice in making decisions for this country!

Hgeyer

Try putting a little REALITY into your posts! This is cut and pasted from Wikipedia… “A study of the voting records of all 100 senators, using an average of the ratings of seven liberal interest groups, described Obama as “among the least liberal”, of the Democrats, scoring an 80%.”

Peatro Giorgio

Wrong ! That study you’ve refereed to , was preformed by a hard core left leaning partisan democratic group. Obama’s State senate record speaks for its self : 129 present votes. With over a absent record of over 64 % of the time . Now lets move on to Obama’s US Senate record, which also speaks for it’s self : While serving just 3 years Obama was absent there 64.4 percent of the time. And he either abstained ,did not vote or voted present. On to numerous of occasions. Yes Obama’s name was on many Senate bills: Non of which he Obama truly worked to in act or worked to develop.
Like Obama’s so called years at Columbia University ! Where not a single one of his so called fellow alumina has ever recalled seeing him either in a lecture hall, class room, lunch room, library or any where on that campus.
NOT PRESENT=PLAYING GOLF.
And to that end is exactly why the entire middle-east,eastern Europe are all upside down in crisis. why our economy has just creep ed along. at a sputter. While millions out of work schools roads bridges our military national defense in general has been reduced to near rubble, after 8 years of a mentally absent Islamic terrorist loving scumbag.

mrpoohead

Link for Senate accusations please.

Out of 21,000 students at Harvard only 400 didn’t know him – quite impressive!

President not in charge of policy or law. Economy stuffed way before he arrived thanks to repealing of Glass-Seagull Act. Eastern Europe is fine, Middle East was stuffed up by US in 1948 and we’ve been propping it up ever since – only now we’re bankrupt and can’t, so trouble. If economy stuffed, no spending, President immaterial.

One pragmatic realist, unlike the buffoon above.

Peatro Giorgio

Again you’ve proven YOUVE EARNED THE MONIKER (Ass Clown .) Alumni His graduating class aT Columbia Law school Columbia University . You Ass clown are combining 4 years of 4 classes. Ass clown. FURTHER MORE ASS CLOWN I SPECIFICALLY STATED COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY. NOT HARVARD RIGHT ASS CLOWN.?? ( READING JUST ISN’T YOUR STRONG SUIT. RIGHT ASS CLOWN.

mrpoohead

Alumni: “a former pupil or student, of a particular school, college, or university”.

And the rest?

mrpoohead

He didn’t do law at Columbia; still 400 out of 4600+ that don’t remember him isn’t bad. Obviously he stood out – probably the only nigga.

C’mon, no other drivel I’m getting bored. Need a new surfboard too.

Munge

Need a brain as well and a new moral compass too.

mrpoohead

Facts win, my moral compass is fine and I don’t have a silly beard. Beardy weird-y!

Munge

The beard is just fine with my biker brethren only ignorant people who judge others by the way they look make comments about that stuff. I dare you to go up to any biker any where and say that if you did I guarantee you will be spitting teeth as you would if you had the balls to say it to my face ya pussy. And your facts are completely wrong so try and grow up be a man except the fact your candidate lost because she was a shitty c person and candidate. And you obviously don’t have a moral compass that thing you got out of your cereal box doesn’t count little boy.

mrpoohead

Never understood why when one is grown up why the desire to still be in a boys club? Bit sad really.

So on your own I’d tell you if I thought it, but as you probably have to walk around holding hands with lots of your friends probably not.

If my facts are wrong then please feel free to provide reference to the contrary. I care for neither party, just facts. Peatro has been trying for months to disprove anything I’ve said and is still a million miles away. I even offered him money to do so.

Munge

Like I said try saying it to any bikers face you don’t have the balls ya pansy.

mrpoohead

Like I said; not when they’re all together holding hands – no. Individually no problem. Who’s the pansy – the independent, stand alone or the fairy who has to hang out all the time with his sissy friends.

Peatro Giorgio

HEY ASS CLOWN : HIS Freshmen Class of 400 Other Students. His so called fellow Alumina . Not the entire student body! ” ASS CLOWN ” And Yes ! He certainly claims to have attended Columbia University Law school. Again ASS clown you’ve managed to once again prove you not only lie , but are down right terrible at lying .

mrpoohead

Alumni: “a former pupil or student, especially a male one, of a particular school, college, or university.” You said “alumni” doofus. Still didn’t do law at Columbia. Personally I don’t care if other students don’t remember him, I’d be more concerned if the faculty didn’t. If all he did was attend lectures and didn’t socialise with other students that merely means he had friends elsewhere or he had his head stuck in books. Whoopee, doopee, doo! Did he pass? What were his marks – one will assume the grades were good if he then went to Harvard. Duh!

Munge

Talk about the kettle calling someone else what it actually is. Wow it’s really getting boring listening to asswipes like you spouting nothing but the same old bullshit. Try coming up with something new for once, you and aklady must be good friends with you both spouting the same ignorant lies over and over. Your handle says a lot about you, you should change it to Mr shithead.

mrpoohead

Facts is facts or disprove.

Peatro Giorgio

FactCheck.org, govtrack.org, newyorker.com,newsdesk
Your lying through your rotten ugly teeth when you claimed Obama Had not Claimed to have attended Columbia University He surly did The Buffoon is you ASS CLOWN

mrpoohead

No, I said he didn’t do law there – duh!

Munge

Wrong once again the president sings the bills to make them law so obviously you don’t know jackshit about how the government works. You must be a freshman in high school with your total lack of any knowledge what so ever. So in that manner the president is in charge of making law dipshit.

mrpoohead

…….and if the President doesn’t sign them they become law after ten days. See what you learn if you stay ’till the end of class!

Thus the President is a figure-head, a meet-er and greet-er, a pen-pusher. Signing is mere pomp! Try again!

Munge

No they don’t it has to go back to Congress idiot. Take a course in government moron cause you don’t know jack shit and you provexpect it every time you open the dumb ass uneducated mouth.

mrpoohead

“If Congress is in session, the bill becomes law after ten days without the president’s signature.”

You are the idiot that is always on here providing lies and bull$hit! You haven’t posted anything based in reality EVER! Try learning the definition of reality and fact check your ridiculous statements and dig deep to find things that aren’t lies… Your constant trail of lies is truly UN AMERICAN!

Bird

It must be a genetic defect…. or, possibly Democratic indoctrination! When the Dims don’t know how to respond or are found to be ‘caught in a lie’, their FIRST response is to call the other person a liar!! Ironic. Hgeyer… you’ve been ‘caught’.

Hgeyer

Nobody caught me in any lies! I called peatro a lier because the guy always post total bull$hit! Most has been debunked by every fact check site on the web and then he says they are all liars

Munge

Or call them their favorite term racist. They have no clue what intelligence is and probably can’t even spell the word.

mrpoohead

Pot, kettle – bit tarnished!

Munge

So is your breath. By the way bye bye you’re blocked now asshole.

mrpoohead

Awwww, so insult me and run off like a little girl. An’ I’m the sissy?

Actually Peatro’s comments are inspired. He has missed his vocation, he should have gone to Hollywood were his conspiracy theories and general drivel would have been well-paid. Movies, movies, movies! Plus he’d love it with the fairies – not the ones at the bottom of the garden.

Munge

Why would anyone intelligent person such as him want to go to a place where there’s nothing but over paid ignorant uninformed idiots are? Maybe you should go join your idiotic friends in dopeywood.

mrpoohead

Because he’s full of poop.

Munge

You mean you since that’s who I was commenting to ya moron.

mrpoohead

Prove it then – zippy!

Peatro Giorgio

First I’m going to spit in your face, then I’m going to slap you in your stupid face with some facts! While posting links to those facts. newyorker.com, govtrack.org., factcheck.org. Before you call someone a Liar ASS WIPE You had best have your facts in a row., Hows that sting on your stupid face feeling now LIAR.

Munge

Amen to that brother, absolutely great points and comments. Thank you my friend always glad to see and hear my fellow independents and conservatives and people who actually have intelligence.

mrpoohead

Peatro has the brain capacity of an amoeba. Very creative, should be in Hollywood – just makes up all his stuff.

Bird

Actually, it was NOT Wikipedia but other news sources. It was also NOT copied or pasted…. I read my information from ‘FactCheck’ which took articles from the New York Times and the Associated Press. They all seem to be in agreement though. As for Obama being the most ‘liberal’… I guess that only applied during 2007 (possibly to make sure he got ALL the Democratic votes when he ran for President). He was CONSISTENTLY among the top five when voting on strictly Democratic, liberal issues.

Excuse me, but the Democratic party is ‘liberal’ (as apposed to ‘conservative’), the ‘liberal’ party is considered LEFT of center while the ‘conservative’ Republican’s are considered RIGHT of center. At the time Obama was in the Senate (before becoming POTUS), he was considered THE MOST LIBERAL, LEFTEST voter serving…. at that time. (Who cares about Bernie?!)

mrpoohead

If both parties are sponsored by the same industrial bodies and conglomerates then their politics won’t be too far removed from each other. Even the NRA bank-roll Democrats. Both are conservative – the difference is one is a small “c” the other a “C”. Plutocracy!

That is not left of center, that is sitting on the fence – socialism is “left”. The most liberal voter is not the most left. There is no left of center party with any clout unlike W Europe, Canada, NZ and Australia. There they have balance in politics, which’ll be why their social disparity and social mobility are considerably better. A homicide rate a fifth to a tenth of ours – where’s the toilet? USA!!!

Bird

That, hopefully, means you’ll be moving soon? Our government is NOT like Europe, Canada, NZ, or Australia…. why bother with the ‘comparison’ because there is none!? You can spout your rhetoric all you want, but the reason Donald Trump was elected is BECAUSE of political rhetoric, lying politicians, a steamy ‘swamp’, and 8 years of a lazy, lying, American hating, Muslim president!!

mrpoohead

Trump is irrelevant, merely enforces how dumb the public are – President is an administrator, not a legislator. What’s he going to do? Flick ink blots at them?

Liberal, conservative, socialist is political ideology – you were woefully in-correct. Our government is not like W Europe et al – no. It is a plutocracy were the power brokers fuck the people over. At least there they have someone to represent all. Thus; better society, safer society, nicer society. Our education system is ranked the lowest of
W Europe et al, as is our health care system (before and after Obamacare – which of course is not “Obama”, but the House’s).

“Eight years of a lazy………..” Where have you been, it’s always been this way – the difference this time is we’re bankrupt and thus significantly less important in the world. As we’ve managed to stuff that up, maybe that’ll be for the best.

Munge

They only care about how much money and power they can grab. You’re nothing but one of the blind ignorant uneducated libterd masses. President Trump has done more to help Americans in the past few months than obozo has done in 8 wasted years of playing golf and screwing our allies like he did to Isreal. You just another asswipe who can’t tell his ass from his face. Face it chump your beloved corrupt lying shitlery lost so get over it get over yourself and just go away nobody wants idiots like you spouting ignorant lies anymore that’s why America voted for president Trump.

mrpoohead

How, President has no power, just a figure-head. Didn’t vote, Clinton was appalling and Trump is merely a joke. Suspect my knowledge is considerably greater than yours.

And, I only spout truths or disprove.

Munge

So you’re not a true American and don’t believe in doing your civic duty by voting. It sounds more and more like you’re nothing more than a high school drop out instead of a freshman. Gets boring try to fix stupid people like you don’t know why I bother because you can’t fix stupid.

mrpoohead

50% of the electorate don’t vote – why? No choice? Democrat or Republican little difference, both represent the same industrial bodies and conglomerates – even the NRA fund Democrats. Duh! Suggest you look in the mirror for “stupid”. We have the worst turnout for elections in the “modern” world. Why?

Munge

And they’re as unAmerican as you little boy.

mrpoohead

Pragmatic realists, not voting is still a point.

MidnightDStroyer

More importantly, it’s a point that NEVER GETS COUNTED. At least if you had voted No Confidence, or None of the Above, then your point would have been heard & on the record.

mrpoohead

I don’t know. 50% of the electorate not turning out shouts apathy and what’s the point. No choice. Try an education.

Peatro Giorgio

EXACTLY .Standing down ,remaining silent ,inaction = equals no chance for change in out come

Peatro Giorgio

AN that point is what?( SELF INTEREST OR SHALL WE JUST NAME THAT DOG. ( SELFISHNESS, SELF CENTERED, SELF ABSORBED ) YOUR CHOICE>

mrpoohead

Potato’s, potatoes; tomato’s, tomatoes; neither, nii-ther. Is it not selfish to have a system were both parties represent basically the same stuff?

Didn’t vote? ADMINISTRATOR (that was me yelling)…get this S.O.B. off this page and ban him until he does vote! What a ninny!

mrpoohead

50% don’t vote – no choice. It’s a plutocracy! Both parties are owned by the same industrial bodies and conglomerates – in the case of the Presidential election; both main contenders repugnant, one more of a joke than the other. What choice?

Peatro Giorgio

With Trumps Presidential Pen He shall. Wipe away 99.9 % Of obummers remaining Excutive Orders. Eliminating many position in many departments where exstremist enviromentleist infiltrated. OR WHERE FARE LEFT LUNATIC FRINGE INFILTRATED REPOSITIONING BORDER PATROL REFOCUSING THE DEPARTMENT OF IMMIGRATION AN NATURALIZATION. REDIRECTING THE FOCUS OF THE FBI, ALL OF HOMELAND SECURITY, RE ESTABLISHING SOUND IMMIGRATION POLICY OF THOSE WHOM COME FROM NATION WITH HIGH LEVELS OF ESTREMIST TERRORIST UNREST.
THE PRESIDENT WILL ALSO ELIMINATE MANY ADMINISTRATIVE ORDERS PERTAINING TO THE ACA. HE CAN ALSO FORCE THE DRAW DOWN OF MANY POSITION IN THE IRS., FCC.,EPA.FDE an so many other departments with abbreviations

Think you’ll find much of what you are suggesting is silly. Administrative orders make things work, you can change a focus but that’s about it. The focus on serious criminals and terrorists in the Immigration Department is probably as much about money as anything else. If the House shrinks funding will he pay for it himself? That is why troops were re-called from Iraq. Can’t imagine he’ll get the IRS to focus on the plutocrats though that would probably be were they’d get more income.

Let me know when you actually have something intelligent to say instead of drivel – it’s all you got. Well that and your other fantasy – God! Keep dreamin’!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mrpoohead

Obviously Trump is going to be very busy in the first few days. A little over 250 orders to rescind, though I suspect he will have to issue amendments rather than annulling. If not then presumably parts of the country will suddenly cease to function without rulings or direction.

Do you have any Idea as to what has brought me the most joy during this inugaration cycle.?
It is knowing that ever vestige of progressive socialism is about to be sweeped away into the dust bin of history.! But my greatest joy has come in knowing the very Ideals you promote ,promulgate & share with your KLAN lunatic brethren are being taken apart piece by piece, signiture by signiture of The New incoming President. I quench my thirst on your tears of pain & sorrow.

mrpoohead

I suspect, what I find even more amusing is that this is it; the end. Clinton or Trump didn’t matter; the fact that it came to a choice between a cow and a pig really dealt the final nail in the coffin to the Empire That Never Was. The tag of “Superpower” is now redundant – thank God! We managed to lead in a fairly dire way throughout the 20th Century; turned up late for the important stuff and made appalling decisions based on drivel. Good technological advances, but giving the world the 2008 Financial Crisis really showed how idiotic we are. As with all former empires it ends with bankruptcy – what is left? Ignominy, implosion or respectability. Who will be the next Superpower? One can but hope that it will be a worldly thing rather than a national thing.

I have not promoted any “ideals”, I have merely presented facts which is why you have never been able to refute one. There is no brethren, no political point of view – just facts! Thus no “pain or sorrow”; for you not too have worked that out merely highlights what a moron you are.

Peatro Giorgio

How deeply bitter is your defeat, how profoundly ridiculous is your continued denial . How extravagantly humorous is your attempts at redemption . Every preceding comment you’ve posted Exsposes your lack of self awareness. The sum of your defeats are mounting to a summit you shall never climb to reach.

There is no defeat; you are faced with choices in life, I chose to live in the best place I could – therefore I left. Duh! Ha, ha, ha! Suggest you become more adept at reading.

mrpoohead

Redemption? What? What is “Exsposes”?

“The sum of your defeats are mounting to a summit you shall never climb to reach.” Think you’ll find I’m well over the ridge, which is why I left. I swapped a shit-hole for paradise. Ha, ha, ha!

mrpoohead

Pssst; when your language and grammar skills are so appalling I recommend you do not try Psych 101 – think you’d have problems with Psych 0.5.

Peatro Giorgio

According to you” Right !” Well If Psychology 101 isn’t working on you??? Then why the 3 separate clearly troubled response from you with in 11 hour period to my very brief 4 sentence paragraph. HUUMMMMM. That BRAIN WORM I MAILED YOU IS DUG IN SO DEEP YOU CANT GET ME OUT OF YOUR HEAD. ” RIGHT ASS CLOWN “

mrpoohead

Initially I was honest and pointed out your ignorance, the latter were as I became more amused by the whole shebang. If nothing else Peabrain you are very good at bringing out the humour within. No brain worm, think you’ll find that is related to music and doubt you are that talented. Did have a Led Zeppelin track going round and round yesterday, though that I suspect was as a result of it being the first song playing whilst on my run. Classic!

Peatro Giorgio

Initially you were being Honest??Really horse crap’ola DAY ONE you started with LYING.
I’LL PROVE IT. FROM THE BEGINNING YOU’ HAVE CLAIMED TO APPRECIATE THE SCIENCES. YET WHEN
I HAD USED THEscientist NAME OF A SINGLE CELL LIFE FORM YOU WERE CLUELESS. An NEED TO GOGGLE SEARCH ending on WikiStupidia for the name (MONADS)
NOW AGAIN IN YOUR LAST COMMENT DIRECTED TO ME YOU TIED BRAIN WORM TO an old school English Rock band LED ZEPPELIN
WELL MR LIAR LOOK UP THE Real Life BRAIN WORM !SCIENTIFICALLY KnowN & NAMED AS EITHER THE MENINGEAL WORM OR THE Parelophostronsylus Tennis. AN YES IT IS ALSO KNOWN AS A BRAIN WORM.TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS TIME AN TIME AGAIN YOU MY ASS CLOWN TINY MINDED FRIEND know jack shit about any subject. if it wasn’t for goggle search you would be a lost Ass clown

mrpoohead

I may appreciate the sciences but doesn’t mean I understand them – I appreciate a lighter stronger surfboard or a more fuel efficient car. Actually not overly interested in the mechanics but appreciate result. Duh!

On each occasion, you’ve taken the oppertunity to tighten the very noose for which you had placed around your own throat. What do I mean you might ask ?? . Simple your sqrimming ,worming ,weasaly attempts to appear intelligent. Makes you look even dumber. How very well your denials,deflection deversion an obfuscating only proves my statement ! That you are in deed a liar. For now you claim not to understand the sciences.
While just 5 comments ago .You Ass clown questioned my preferences ,asking which would I prefer ancient history or sciences leading to advancements. While all the time yo pretended to have superior understanding of same.. I answer your question this way I choose Both with an explanation, One hasn’t a single as to where one is going without first knowing from where you came.
You on the other hand chose Sciences. ASS CLOWN YOU.

mrpoohead

You’re the dummy – entertaining, but still the dummy. How’s the Congress for Kids page coming?

“Mistakes” with regard to facts – whereas you have struggled to produce a substantiated fact.

Peatro Giorgio

Initially you were being Honest ?? HORSE CRAP’OLA DAY ONE LYING DOG.
I’LL PROVE IT. FROM THE BEGINNING YOU’VE CLAIMED TO APPRECIATE THE SCIENCES. YET WHEN
I HAD USED THE SCIENTIFIC NAME FOR A SINGLE CELL LIFE FORM YOU WERE ENTIRELY CLUELESS AN NEED TO GOGGLE SEARCH ENDING UP ON WIKISTUPIDIA &LUCKILY FINDING. (MONADS)
NOW AGAIN IN YOUR LAST COMMENT DIRECTED TO ME YOU TIED BRAIN WORM TO & OLD BRITISH ROCK BAND LED ZEPPELIN
WELL MR LIAR LOOK UP THE BRAIN WORM SCIENTIFICALLY KNOWN AS EITHER THE MENINGEAL WORM OR THE Parelophostronsylus Tennis. An also knowm as a brain worm.You know jack shit about any subject if it wasn’t for goggle search you would be a lost Ass clown

mrpoohead

Two posts saying the same thing – Alzheimer’s perhaps?

Munge

If you don’t like our country then leave we really don’t need you.

mrpoohead

The Second Amendment doe snot stop regulation – W Europe et al all have it, just common-sense. No guns for the mentally challenged, none for criminals, kept in safe place so they can’t be stolen. Folk still have guns, just with a dash of sensibility.

Think you’ll find I’m just more worldly. In what sense have “Demoncraps” restricted freedom of religion or freedom of speech!

You’re nuts.

Peatro Giorgio

Sure keep your means of self defense , self preservation locked away in a safe place. Providing an open safe environment for the common theft ,rapest, murderer. Hence Paris France hence Orlando Florida hence the Thousands of rapest Ann sexual assults through out Europe. And in the highly restricted gun control cities across the US. Who is it exactly who fears the firearm an the law abiding gun owner of a said firearm. It is the pervert, the degenerate, the deranged ,the thief ,the rapist , the Pedophile,The corrupt politician, The low life scumbag,The coward ,The arrogant elitist an dictator who need a disarmed populace in order to roll & rule over the common man. That’s Who fears the gun owner. So in which category shall we place you.

mrpoohead

Peatro aka John Wayne in the Ol’ Wild West. Life has moved on – don’t know any W European’s et al that feel the need to own a gun for protection. All the one’s I know have guns because they shoot clay pigeons for sport, hunt or have property. So keeping it locked away no problem. Suggest you move to a nicer place.

“Violent crime” statistics are the same per capita in US and W Europe et al. However violent crime in US includes homicide, aggravated rape and armed robbery; whereas elsewhere it encompasses much more. In Sweden rape includes squeezing a ladies behind, a bit of “biffo” in the pub in the UK. Many more varieties of rape everywhere. If it was a level playing field then America way out in front – numero uno!

Here some facts you seem to leave on said. Over 58 % Of us population is of European decent .Funny How western an eastern Europeans are still very much Applying for Visas to either work here or to attend school’s here. Funny How all those folks think your opinion is little more then that spewed from a limp dick jerk whos angst at America for being booted for over staying your school visa after flunking out. Right Ass Clown

mrpoohead

Here’s some funnier facts for you.

Obviously Europe sent over the trash, who have failed to evolve – stagnate at best, regress at worst.

Europeans working here – because we don’t have brains to do it ourselves. 50% of post-graduates at the more important universities bring in the brains from overseas. See, we’ve regressed. We have more Nobel prizes than anyone (many are for foreign residents though). Per capita we have a prize for every million, the UK has one for every 500,000, Germany and Norway have one per every 300,000.

Undergraduate students – most foreign students are from outside of W Europe et al. In fact no European country is in the top ten in numbers. Mostly Asian and African.

Most Europeans remain Europeans, legal aliens. Don’t know one that decided on naturalization – am sure they exist, but never met one.

Here end-eth the lesson. Funny as. American’s – if you are the epitome of an example, no wonder we’re fucked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Peatro Giorgio

What do you mean” we “? Your no American your nothing more then a Lying scumbag ! Funny : How 79.9 Percent of all Medical research is accomplished by American Scientist . When has Europe ever accomplished anything of significance, with out the involvement,support of the US. EUROPE Needed Beg THE US for help during World war’s one,& two AND WHY BECAUSE THE EUROPEAN NATION SPENT THEIR FORTUNES ON SOCIAL WELFARE ISSUES INSTEAD OF NATIONAL SECURITY. WITHOUT NATIONAL SECURITY DESTRUCTION OF A NATION IS EASILY ACCOMPLISHED ! HELL GERMANY ALMOST WON. HITLER GOT STUPID AND TOOK ON THE GREAT BEAR & THE GREAT BALD EAGLE ! NATO is shit with out the US ! The UN is shit without the US ! What nation has ended most World Health crisis by either destroying or minimizing contagious Disease??? Naturally The US>! Where are most of the Pharmaceutical companies Home based. Why of course in the US. Why is the Eu seeking Us Support for CAP &Trade ?? WHY yes of course The EU is unable to do shit on its own. Over populated tiny ASS COLLABORATION OF USELESS UGLY ASS ancient old DYING cities
BRITAIN Bailed out smartly, Next comes France, Followed By Italy. Hell yes the Dominoes are falling. ITS ALWAYS THE DUMB ASS EUROPEANS TO CATCH ON LAST. Is it not any wonder why EUROPE WILL FALL TO ISLAM WITH IN THE NEXT GENERATION DUMB ASS EUROPEANS. SO MUCH FOR YOUR SO CALLED ENLIGHTENMENT ASS CLOWN ! YES I LOVE USING CAP’s & Y because it pisses you off.

mrpoohead

40% I think you’ll find and 50% of post-gradates at the important universities are foreign.

Unless you have new facts, please provide, I have already refuted and walked all over the rest of the drivel.

Peatro Giorgio

More like 43.3% An of that figure only 5% Are European. Most are either Indian ,Pakistani, Middle eastern ,Chinese, Japanese, South Korean, Mexican, of South American or Canadian
Your such a lying sack of shit.

mrpoohead

Last time I checked it was 50%. I said “foreign” – that means not American. Duh! Search for post graduate students MIT (or wherever).

Peatro Giorgio

Now you wish to include Technical instatutes. Where before the entire discussion stemmed around (Universities-Colleges). MIT- IT are Technical schools GREAT ENGINEERING SCHOOLS COVERING MOST ANY ARea of the STUDY OF ENGINEERING Whether Hydraulic ,Electrical, nuclear, BioMechanical.

Think you’ll find MIT and Caltech are actually universities despite the titles. Both are currently mid-forties post-graduate foreigners. Those two of course are making the leaps in technology; traditional studies are hardly likely to do that, unless they find a lost city or something. What do you want a lost city or an advance in science?

Peatro Giorgio

MY ANSWER IS ( BOTH ) THAT ANSWER IS RATHER SIMPLE & TRULY LOGICAL .
I prefer to have both Discovery of lost cultures ,ancient cities an societies. AS well the advancements of the advanced science’s! REASON : If you haven’t a clue as to where we came from. We certainly shall have no clue as to where or how far we are going.

mrpoohead

Much as I like the history stuff (obviously my memory of it is significantly better than yours – considering your drivel) pragmatism says science will advance us further and be of more benefit.

What I have always found amusing is religion; despite what the Bible/Koran say zealots seem to spin it in a different way – the Koran does not exhort believers into evil. One reads about Jesus and he is offering up social responsibility, balancing society, forgiveness and acceptance of our fellow man – so, how come you’re such a bigoted, uncaring piece of excrement (please note spelling – mine is correct).

Funny as!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Peatro Giorgio

You truly talk out of your Brown ring Sweden classifies sexual assults as squeezing someone buttocks no different then here in the US. Further more I live in a town with very low crime rate . In New Jersey. An why can that be . Answer not because of laws restricting gun ownership but rather because 82% of our towns residents posses firearms. Surrounding communities under more liberal governing bodies with simalar populations & equal racial make up have much higher crime rates. With far fewer gun owners.
If Europe is so wonderful
THEN WHAT THE (F ) ARE YOU DOING HERE. More then half of my extended family members Left Europe. For personal freedoms personal responsibilities that come with those freedoms .And not that shit head Obama is out more are to follow. Those who wished to come before halted that move Figuring if America is Turning socialist let’s just stay in European. Now that the scum of all scum are out of power .America will prosper once again ,America will return to personal Freedom with personal responsibility. No loads dead beats need to leave.i

Not here, already gone as previously stated. Won’t be renewing passport and no desire to set foot there ever again. Shithole!

Europeans left after WWII mostly, when there was opportunity and freedom. Been going downhill since the 60’s. President immaterial; they do not make decisions, they merely administrate. They are not in charge of economy, laws, policy or deals. Suggest you return to school.

Pre-Obama freedom and opportunity gone – that’s why we have the worst social disparity and social mobility. In fairness comparing “violent crime” is too convoluted – what is violent to one is not to another, or degrees of. Homicide though – we rock; back up to five to ten times W Europe et al.

Socialism has given W Europe et al more freedom and opportunity, balanced societies, better education and healthcare systems – on the flip side it usually means a load of paperwork but not always. Europeans moving to the US today usually have something that is needed – skills. This means they are getting very well paid; for your average Joe, he is better off elsewhere. There are more average Joe’s anywhere than rocket scientists. Never voted socialist and probably never will but I appreciate that it balances society and means everyone is represented not just the 5%. Nobody else is represented in the US other than the 5% and they hardly need it. If any European is currently put off moving to the US then it is because of Trump – he’s viewed as a pig elsewhere.

Peatro Giorgio

Still talking shit not a single comment of your above posting even slightly resembles fact. Still posting links To WIKISTUPIDIA. I NOLONGER US GOOGLE AS A SEARCH ENGINE.GOOGLE SENDs YOU TO LIBERAL BULLSHIT WEB PAGES I will not be brain washed like the weak minded Like you.

An’ I’m still waiting for you to refute one page of Wikipedia – your preferred site directed you to Wikipedia articles. Funny as.

mrpoohead

Or, 82% – well if you live in a county surrounded by wealthier counties your lot are probably doing the robbing. Does a robber go to poorer towns or wealthier to do his work?

Munge

The majority of responsible gun owners already do that it’s only the people who possess them that aren’t handle them responsibly. And as far as my nuts go you didn’t complain when they were dunked in your mouth.

He seems to be the only one that counted who cared! His own party railroaded his a$$ right on out of there as he was in the hillary trains way. Although Bernie is more than a little loopy he is a whole lot more trustworthy than hillary as proven by his net worth compared to the Clinton’s.

Terry

Ya but in the end good old Bernie took the money showing he finely did something worth getting paid off for . He’s a Socialist and would destroy this country , for god sake what is so hard to understand . Just because you keep repeating a talking point doesn’t make it true . Open your eyes socialist ( Are ) I repeat (Are ) trying to take America over . I must say at least Bernie said it out load ( Socialist ) that is the word Democrats try to hide .

mrpoohead

Because of socialism W Europe, Canada, NZ and Australia all have better social disparity, social mobility and a homicide rate a fifth to a tenth of ours. A far better healthcare system (before and after Obamacare) and education system. Try again!

Terry

And in the end all end up like Venezuela , Argentina , El Salvador , Greece . If you like socialism so much move to one of these country’s and then let me know how it works out for you . Try again !

mrpoohead

Obviously any sense of rational escapes you. So have W Europe, Canada, NZ and Australia ended up like those you mentioned – socialism started in W Europe. Germany seems to be doing very well, considering current economic climate. They’ve propped up the EU and are one of the most liberal countries in Europe. Economically they are the powerhouse. Suggest you try again when you’ve grown a brain. And, the better education, health, balance of wealth, society, freedom and general safety?

W Europe is still out in front of us economically, the problems there all started with the 2008 Financial Crisis – who created that? USA, USA, USA. Who stuffed up the Middle East? USA, USA, USA!!!!!

Terry

Fuck off and die troll !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mrpoohead

So you’re from the Hitler school of politics – can’t beat the facts, we’ll kill them huh? Just another retarded, red-necked bigot. Awwwwwwwww!

mrpoohead

Does this kind of rhetoric work with the “ladies”? You charmer you. Kissey, kissey!!!!!!!!

Peatro Giorgio

Up an until other peoples money runs out and then You wind up in the very same position as those In GREECE, VENEZUELA ,CUBA, AND THE EASTERN EUROPEAN NATION’s MANY OF WHICH ARE ON THE VERGE OF COLLAPSE, BANKRUPTCY IMMINENT ! AND WHY ONE MAY ASK ? ANSWER ( SOCIALISM IS THE DIRECT CAUSE.) EMERGENCY BAILOUTS FOR HUNGARY THE BALTIC STATES IN CRISIS STATES ! YEA SOCIALISM HARD AT WORK DESTROYING NATIONS AN THE PEOPLE OF THOSE NATIONS ALL OVER THE WORLD. LOOK AT THE EU VERSES BRITAIN RIGHT NOW TODAY BREXIT BRITAIN PROFITS EU LOOSE”S US PRESENT DAT TRUMPXIT US PROFITS SORE.

mrpoohead

Hyperbole and BS. Hungary received IMF loan in 2008, it paid it back last year. What happened in 2008 – America stuffed up the planet! Eastern Europe is on the up. UK currently low, EU currently has strongest currency. Try again – moron! Socialism has been in W Europe for longer than any of those other countries you mention – try again!

Peatro Giorgio

Talk about HYPERBOLE AN BULLSHIT YOUR LAST POST IS COMPLETE BULLSHIT. EASTERN EUROPE IS SUCKING WIND AS IS NEARLY ALL OF EUROPE. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF BRITAIN. MORON FINACIAL OUT LOOK FOR BRITAIN VERSES THE EU. NO COMPARISON BRITAIN ON THE RISE EU DROPPING LIKE THE HARD PIECE OF SHIT IT IS. FRANCE ON VERSE OF EXIT ,ITALY SOON TO FOLLOW. WHEN THOSE 2 LEAVE THE EU IS DONE . GERMANY WILL SOON PART NOT LONG AFTER FRANCE AN ITALY. THEY WON’T CARRY THE LOAD OF SHIT FOR THE REST OF THE STINK HOLE.

mrpoohead

Euro currently strongest currency. Obviously if the Hungarians paid all the loan back it is reasonable to assume they are doing okay?

British pound currently abysmal which is why I haven’t moved any money from there – lose to much on the exchange rate.

EU – only folk wishing to leave are extreme right wing parties. 61% of Italians love it. You have no substance and outside of UK “Out” parties are poorly supported. UKIP was the “Out” party.

rfrichey

Poor old dumb ass Bernie spent all that time in office and had to rely on the Clinton’s and the crooked dems to pay him off to endorse her. I find it hard to believe anyone born into this country in the 40’s and 50’s could vote any way but anti-democrat.

I do know that seven of ozero’s cabinet positions were okayed on the first day he was in office. What has changed since then that slowed down the vetting process? I’ve hired a lot of people in my lifetime after interviewing and doing what I considered vetting, I would make my decision. The best employee I ever had was one I had doubts about but gave him a chance to either fail or succeed. Not only did he do what he was hired to do but eventually could do anyones job. Move over shut up and give them a chance. We can always say “You’re Fired”.

Hgeyer

Obama didn’t pick billionaire’s with hundreds of conflicts of interests and members of the lunatic fringe as his cabinet members! Sometimes “you’re fired” needs to be said BEFORE they screw things up! Trumps choices need “EXTREME VETTING”! And republicans are in charge of all this vetting process!

rfrichey

Like I said, move over, shut up, and give them a chance. The democrats made a huge mistake giving the mantel to probably the most despicable woman in our country. Hillary was just not liked by normal people.

rfrichey

He hasn’t changed. Like 90% of politicians be it local, state, or national they get elected and either use that position as a stepping stone or stay for life gaining a hell of a pension. Also, when they do leave office their always a lot better off financially then when they went in. I’ve seen it happen many, many times.The Clinton’s are the perfect example, when they started in Arkansas they didn’t have a pot, and while neither has since had a job outside of government they’re worth hundreds of millions. Government service wasn’t meant for people to get rich. It’s called service!

Camille Gilliam

You are so right, can’t any of them see that Trump is going to work for $1.00 a yr. and some of the others are too., like his son-in -law. I just can’t understand that people have not yet figured out that o is a communist, a Muslim and who know how radical he is. More of them should have seen the movie about his life, it tells how EVIL he really is.

Askjrsk

What a great post. You have this nailed. Obama is a sham. A con artist. A Muslim selling our country out. HILLARY is his coverup. Soros the funding source. Trump loves America and Americans. Scuzzy cheap politicians globalists are diligently working to de legitimize Trump. Trump is an American about America and not a globalist. Once DOJ starts investigating– that’s what HILLARY and OBAMA worry is. Bless you

Camille Gilliam

Thank you! It is hard to believe how dumb some people are about this. Did you realize how he got his SS card, his grandmother worked in that dept. in Hawaii and when the man from Conn. died the paper work was never turn in.

Askjrsk

I do. It is so disgusting so maddening. Thankyou for your thoughtful post.

Hgeyer

Repeating a lie will never make it true….

Camille Gilliam

If it is a lie then what is the truth? i’m sorry but O never tells the truth.Then what happened to the lady that they let drown when the plane went down in the ocean.?

Hgeyer

The truth is OBAMA WAS BORN IN HAWAII AND GOT HIS SOCIAL SECURITY CARD FROM THE SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION LIKE ALL AMERICANS DO YOU FOOL! This is the fact! And NOBODY has ANY CREDIBLE evidence to the contrary!

Mike Thomas

Obama said the first time running for President that his administration was going to be transparent all the while he paid to have all his records sealed. We should have questioned his so called transparency garbage then. The old saying fool me once your fault, fool me twice my fault and many voters were fooled both times.

Hgeyer

Apparently you are foolish enough to be “fooled” into believing that Obama had his records sealed! That “myth” has been debunked by every fact check site on the planet! What a fool you must be!

David in MA

Then show America his original BC, SS Card, his Draft Card, college documents and his original passport.

@hgeyer:disqus STOP, you’re spilling KoolAid all over everyone! BTW – here is a nine-point, not one, not two, not three…NINE-point take down of the forged Obama birth certificate provided to the public. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk3KRxTfkLM

Hgeyer

And not one of them is true! Even Trump and his band of idiots has arrived at the conclusion that Obama’s birth certificate is authentic! There is not one shrewd of evidence to support your bull$hit beliefs! Sheriff Joe’s chief aid was charged with falsifying evidence in this case! Get a clue fool!

Your instantaneous use of profanity and name calling tells me and the rest of the audience you lack the facts to make your case. I engaged with you to help make that point. Done. thx!

Munge

Like I’ve said so many times brother, you can’t fix stupid no matter how hard we try.

mrpoohead

Mirror please.

mrpoohead

Pointless drivel – even if false, Obama is an American by virtue of mother’s nationality. Stupid argument for ignoramus’s.

David in MA

wrong

Hgeyer

Got ANYTHING to back that up? Didn’t think so….

Munge

Absolutely right my friend.

Hgeyer

A movie based on REALITY would prove how untrue you post is…

Munge

So right on that my friend.

mrpoohead

Ha, ha, ha! Businessmen do not have ethics – an’ I include myself in that. Nor do serial misogynists, perverts and dogs.

CoolApple

Sounds like you are looking for another community organizer or poverty pimp to take his place.

Hgeyer

ANYONE that isn’t a CON MAN would do…

CoolApple

I guess he conned 63 million people, right?

Askjrsk

You can fool some of the people some of the time. You can fool all the people some of the time. You can fool some of the people all the time. But you cannot fool all the people all the time. Abraham Lincoln

Hgeyer

There IS one born every minute…..

Lyndau123

Well that sure leaves YOU out, huh!

Dan Lloret

You were conned by an unvetted community organizer for 8 years

Askjrsk

ALINSKY followers must have community organizer to get step one.

CoolApple

That’s part of their motor manual. Contrast: Ike was the Commander of ETO, head of the entire D-Day invasion. barry was a community organizer in Chicago. If it had actually never happened, nobody would ever believe you.

Askjrsk

Obama misread qualifications and community organizer he thought read commando organizer and went to head of the line.

CoolApple

8 years ! It can’t help but get better after a week from today. I’ll bet our dept. of defense will be so overhauled, we will wonder how we ever kept from being invaded.

Askjrsk

Absolutely. The whole nation is going in for the
complete servicing. Tune up is way over due. Wonder how the engine continued to run with out oil and new spark plugs in eight years. She’ll be purring like a kitten soon.

CoolApple

Even Air Force 1 should get a break. Give them awhile to clean it out.

Askjrsk

Fumigate. If I were Trump I’d bring my own bucket for the port a potty. Really would you sit on that stool. What’s more I wouldn’t pee on a bed OBAMA slept on. I’m sure the same holds true for PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP.

Dan Lloret

Was part of Reagan’s military buildup as a civilian contractor. Between that and the Strategic Defense Initiative, the USSR realized they would never catch up, finally threw in the towel.

Sgt. York

No not Trump but shaub and those in association with him.

Hgeyer

THEY aren’t “politicians”, they are “bureaucrats” …. the only “politician” involved here is Trump…

Lyndau123

LIAR! STFU!

Askjrsk

Hge a tranny troll. A HILLARY cry baby

maxx

Not hat he said at all. Thanks for showing your colors comrade !!!

Askjrsk

Communists tranny troll

bjpurg

Trump has more ethical morality in his pinky finger than that snake in the grass witch Clinton! You think you are so sad about her loss….but just think how sad you’re going to be when our new AG brings out all of her dirty laundry for you sheople to have to endure soon. Thank God we dodged a bullet….no, a missile on that one!

Hgeyer

Sad that you haven’t realized yet you put that bullet right in your own head!!!

Sgt. York

Agree? you didn’t read correctly I’m no snowflake as I Voted FOR Trump . Hitlery was a step toward being Socialists not American Freedoms. You got it Wrong

Hgeyer

This is cut and pasted from YOUR post… “If “politicians” don’t understand “ethics” before election, they ain’t gonna’ and should simply be replaced at the first opportunity.”
Like YOU SAID … Trump should be replaced at the first opportunity! I couldn’t agree more! The AS$HAT doesn’t even know what a “blind trust” is!

Sgt. York

Sonny boy when your 82 like I am your allowed to make a mistake but then I know you have never made one. My feeling is if it ain’t to your liking then that’s just TS

ECwashr

Hgeyer, yet another Obama USEFUL IDIOT!! One question Liberal FOOL, How did you escape the Jim Jones Koolaid lines?

Faye O’Dell

I am disgusted with the Democratic Party and the lack of education concerning what makes America a Republic. Even Democratic politicians need to be schooled about our Republic.

Myoldglory

No dumb ass we mean all you gay scum who speak for the homo in the WH need to be gone for good.

Sandy devine

Sure as I laugh at your stupid remark! Go read what I wrote above!

Hgeyer

I read what you posted… I prefer to read non-fiction!

jimmy midnight

But a President Pence would likely B even worse, and more effectively so. I bet n

Dave

The ones that should be replaced are the Liberal Communist, And a couple more elections, they will be wiped out.

William toxic

How long ago did you have your lobotomy?

Sgt. York

Amen to that we are America not some NWO trash heap run by the silent Communist Party.

Askjrsk

Amen

Myoldglory

I agree and besides all Ohomo’s people and the Gaystopo morons who work for him have it out fro Trump and all Republicans. These scums are disgusting animals who have no shame. Period!

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maxx

There are about a dozen so called alphabet agencies illegally created by Congress and populated by unaccountable bureaucrats that should be eliminated.

Askjrsk

That it. Times to send out resumes.

daneagle

AGREED! Eliminate them,,,,,,,,,

Askjrsk

Absolutely. Excellent!

Bolt

Very good points, Doc.

We have been looking for just one Democrat with the strength of character to stand and say, “No” for 8 years. Not a single one.

But then, again, very few Opposition Party members stood and said, “No” and no RINOs.

pmbalele

You would not know Repubs and TPs in Congress have thrown out all ethic standards. Now with the new leadership in the WH they can accept bribes from anybody. If the new AG brings suits against them they will tell their leader to fire him or her. TPs and Repubs want to feel free again. No more regulations.

wildeagleone

The dems show no intention of becoming ethical. Example: Obama/ Clinton and all that put Obama into office without vetting him as would have been ETHICAL and is required unless you’re a Dem

In ethics research I learned of a particular type called “craft ethics”. It is basically as the name implies. Folks are considered “ethical” if they practice other traits such as honesty, integrity, truthfulness, etc. at the same degree as others in the same profession. It was the cornerstone definition to my paper on the Ethics of Obamacare. By the standards of their “craft”, politics, they still don’t think they did anything wrong.

gene smiith

Well stated and obviously based in knowledge.
It is a shame that ethics have to be discussed at all. What fool running for high office would even consider doing so if they had no ethics or didn’t understand the meaning. Shaub is a stuffed shirt, and I believe I know what it is stuffed with too.

daneagle

your right on Doc !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mrpoohead

The ACA was a two-party initiative, started back in Clinton’s day. Both sides were on board, were the i’s are dotted and the t’s crossed is all that’ll change. Duh!

Drain the swamp – good luck, how. Both parties owned by same industrial bodies and conglomerates – even the NRA fund Democrats. Trump irrelevant, no change – why? Because the President has zip power; laws, deal and policy are the remit of the House. Duh!

MidnightDStroyer

So, the Ethics Committee has *finally* taken an interest in vetting people for Offices, huh? This is far, far more interest than they showed when it came to vetting Obama 8 years ago & vetting Hillary (sic) Clinton & Foundation an even shorter time ago. They also had no problem with complaining when Obama appointed his entire Administration either. As it has been said (I think it was Samuel Clemens), “Politicians should be changed at least as often as baby’s diapers, and for much the same reason.”

So, Doc, does it really take an advanced degree to see the writing on the wall?

EBRM

Cant this biased idiot Walter Shaub be fired? Whats good for the goose Hillary is good for the gander.What a TWIT.

PatriotGal

We just have to wait one week more till PRESIDENT Trump is inaugurated…can’t wait to hear and see him give his famous line, “YOU’RE FIRED!!!” to an incomparable amount of twits now on the Fed payroll, including Schaub.

jaybird

Would love to see a majority of them “fired”, unfortunately most are Union members. People that work for the Federal and State governments should not be able to join a union or rules should be changed where they can be fired.

Lyndau123

Typically, it is the Jerkwad MANAGERS that Obama put in place that need to go. Many of the underlings are as disgusted as we SANE people are with how CORRUPT Obama’s administration has been! FBI lower levels are sickened and wanted to strike by what they have seen happening with Obams! And that is well documented. Same with the VA> Lots of GOOD people but all the managers are jerkwads and STILL in place today even after all the scandals and deaths! Basically ALL Alphabet MANAGERS – especially the IRS Animal – need to be gone and PROSECUTED! Lock them up!

Brenda

The Office of Government Ethics has nothing to do with ethics. They are too political in their ethics for one party and another set of ethics of the other party.

Bob

The last time I heard such garbage being spoken, the puppet on sitting on his master’s lap…..is that you back there , Barry?

RsGoat

There was a time when Civil servant’s actually worked separate from politicians and had some pride about that but over the last eight years, maybe more I’m not aware of, they have lost something and as the public notices they will come under attack losing not only respect but the power to do what is right as they lose the power to do anything! Never abuse what the public allows you because it is theirs to take away.

Anthony Manzo

Chuck, be careful of what you do it may come back to haunt you. Ask old Harry, you will now pay for his selfish UN American stupid act.

Gerry Costa

Another demoTRASH scum bag who will be in the unemployment line in a week. Rushing the confirmation hearings —- Trump takes office in –6 days, 14 hours, 15 minutes and 10 seconds– and he needs his cabinet in place. Obviously shaub is just playing the ol’ demoTRASH delay and stonewall every proceedure.

Herb Branch

Most US presidents do not have a full cabinet of officers in place before taking their oath of office. Senate hearings for nominees often go into February and into March. The much delayed consent of the Senate with SecDef Don Rumsfeld in 2001 eventuated in returning to embarrass Democrats when they tried years later to hang him about alleged “war cimes” for DOD actions/decisions that took place BEFORE he was sworn into his position as SecDef. But, DC Dems have long memories for seeking political revenge by any means, but short memories for actual facts and history.

The key personalities among the top ranks of DC Dems are all about personal popularity and “king-of-the-mountain” mentality. What they are NOT about is: How to perform proper governance with minimum waste of public money. Being seen by many people to APPEAR to be in charge is far more important than actual governing with wisdom.

David in MA

Schumer, the pillar of honesty and integrety…….., if there were any reason to hate a Jew, Schumer is it!

CoolApple

From Michael Moore to all the nets, they are piling on Trump with every bit of trash they can find. They are taking this latest trip with klinton and the FBI and somehow incorporating the word Trump. The Donald had nothing to do with klinton’s emails but his name gets mixed there. One relenting attack to keep his name in negative land.

Sgt. York

Trump will have the power to boot Shaub out. He is a cheap dizzycrat not for the American people but for the socialist liberals and will not be doing anything that Soros doesn’t like. This once Americans for free government has been taken over by those with the NWO desires and Trump has to stop it now before we lose the country we love and all our freedoms

Patricia Lockwood

Shaub ,go jump in lake.

Vinnie S.

Can we get on with the “Real Job” of fixing what is wrong with all the “Pocket Lining ” in Washington , the Economy , Lobbying , Pay to Play systems , Excessive Spending , No Show Jobs held by Washington officials , Welfare being distributed amongst Illegals, Islamic Extremism , Terrorist behavior , Keeping America Safe !!

Lyndau123

AMEN! But the butt hurt Turds don’t want to give up their CONTROL over the “little people” deplorables!! Boy, are they in for an awakening!

Eternal Vigilance

Strange, but I do not recall hearing from this guy during the entirety of Hillary’s term as Secretary of State…not a peep! zip….zero….nada

bpr1122

Didn’t the media initially criticize Trump for not moving fast enough with his Cabinet picks?

Lyndau123

YES they want it BOTH WAYS, no not that, well maybe, but we want what we want NOW! Basic two year old behavior demonstrated by the ‘turds!

wildeagleone

What thevhell do we need with this a$$ hole and who the hell is he to speak on be half of all the people in this Nation,?

Mt Native

Was obama subjected to this when he selected his cabinet? I highly doubt it as in dems eyes he could not and still can’t do any wrong.

Askjrsk

I think that it’s not smart to aggravate PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP. I think that down the line he’ll be calling Trump to walk back his stupidity. Like James Crapper. It just might be too late.

gene smiith

Too bad the Ethics, or lack thereof, aren’t the subject more often than just at the changing of the Guard. If it were known how these folks all become millionaires during their stay in office, the Ethics Commission might…MAYBE….have some credibility.
As it now stands, they seem to pick and choose who they will select for closer examination….Bad Form Folks !!

bjpurg

They are all just a bunch of lefties throwing temper tantrums because for once things are not going their way!! Whhaaaa!

jim mccollum

In most instances in the obstruction of the government watchdogs sits a second generation Jewish Democrat who is nothing more an a Communist from the former Eastern Europen Block of the Soviet Union.

Herb Branch

Please leave out your apparent emphasis on his Jewishness. That is not the central issue. Yes, he is a convinced and dedicated socialist with deep ties to the other socialists in the Democrat Party. That is his key life-choice issue and problem. He is a victim (one of far too many) of liberal brain-washing in the modern US educational system.

In case you are not aware, there is a Republican Jewish Committee with its HQ in DC. I correspond with them. And many members of AIPAC are also Republicans. Some are even Constitutional scholars, like Dr. Mark Levin, former chief of staff to Pres. Reagan’s Attorney General. He is Founder and chairman of Landmark Legal Foundation (which litigates on behalf of persons, businesses, churches and other organizations that have received abusive treatment, onerous intimidation, and lawsuits from the ACLU, the Freedom From Religion Foundation and the Obama Administration). So also does Dr. Jay Sekulow’s American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ). Both men are great patriots and serious constitutionalists. So are their great staff personel.

So, I respectfully request that Jewishness be left out of the points raised as being part of a person’s background, as though it were a key determinant of perspective and disqualification. On my mother’s and father’s side, I have ancestry that goes back to General Zachary Taylor, 12th US president, and to the Mayflower; plus to England’s King Edward I (“Longshanks”) and to Lord Dunbar. But on my father’s paternal grandmother’s side I have ancestry that goes back to the Tribe of Levi and to Moshe (Moses). So, please evaluate persons by their actions and mistaken views, not their ancestry and ethnicity. And I do background research papers for several conservative organizations.

Thank you. And have a good New Year.

jim mccollum

Thanks for the essay and bio. I am fully aware of the Conservative Jews in our society and government; they are among my most esteemed human beings. That said, a Liberal Jew is, in my opinion, the absolute lowest form of life on the continent. As far as my “apparent emphasis” on the J word, it was no more frequent nor apparent than that contained in you response above.
And I’m sick of the “victim card” being played. Truth be known, we all have a history of victimhood in some form or another but we don’t wear it as a badge of sympathy. The fact is, Walter Straub is a Jew just as I am white and of Irish descent so God knows I have a victim card to play if I wanted to. I’m not offended to be called what I in fact am and neither should any one else. We’ve seen and heard plenty of “white this and white that” for the last few years so your singling my comment out as if it were at the pinnacle of offense is rather hypocritical and somewhat laughable. In other words, you have no reason whatsoever to be offended and if you are, I really don’t really care!

Herb Branch

Please consider how your remarks were presented. You led the description of Mr Schaub with “. . . sits a secomd generation Jewish Democrat, who is nothing more than a Communist from the former Eastern European Block of the Soviet Union.”
I suspect that you were never taught that the Nazis used similar claims, that “all Jewish intellectuals were communists and agents of the Soviet Union” as part of their reasons to round up and incarcerate tens of thousands of innocent people.

I do not believe that you realized that. But, most of the American Jewish Community would be chilled by your earlier comments. Perhaps enough so to turn them off to this information website. I hope that won’t happen. Try to think about how to best express your ideas, so as to draw others to you and to win people over to your point of view. Then, you will become a more effective communicator and have more influence on many others.

jim mccollum

meh……….

Herb Branch

The key problem is that Clinton appointed the man to that post in the last days of the Clinton Admin. And George W. Bush made the mistake of going along with some of his advisors requests to keep that man on as Inspector General in the Independent Ethics Department of DOJ. That man became an unrelenting thorn in the side of GW Bush for both terms. He has proven himself to be a highly activist political hack and socialist, who despises and harrasses conservatives in DC and elsewhere. His career in Washington is overdue for termination. He lacks all philosophical and judicial neutrality.

Phaedrus51

If Walter Shaub is a Government employee, he needs to be FIRED! Like Doc Owen says, the department needs to be cut, with liberty and pink slips for all.

Gene Syms

It is quite evident , Wally Shaub is just a party ‘BUTT WIPE’ for the current administration, Obama and company.

ECwashr

“Government Ethics Director”, the title alone is like a comedy sketch. Anyone connected with Obama has absolutely no ethics and that is a FACT!!

Marcy Gruber Johnston

Can’t teach ethics. You either have integrity or you don’t. And the democrats have demonstrated no ethical behavior, no integrity. The press has demonstrated no integrity and a blatant disregard for the facts and truth. I say they all need to go to hell where they will end up anyway .

Phyllis Schultz

They don’t question Hillary’s ethics, even though she has none, or any of Obama’s questionable czars, or his illegal executive orders, but they are all over Trump about the media’s and the lefts trumped up story about the Russians. They make themselves look more petty and ridiculous every time they speak.

Sandy devine

The audacity of these people just irk me !! The Dems, they have the gall to say slow form because they want to know who
These people are?? They’ve seen/heard from and about them for a long time! Ok, let’s start with this, VAN JONES. He’s a communist, was out at the behikjng of Obamas begining 8 years ago, the people were outraged he was a communist so he resigned! Oh we thought he did… in the middle of the night he hired this communist to work in the WH!!! Yup, our tax money payed for a communist to work in the WH!! Thus is what obama did sneaky!!! Oh now let’s go on, granny, who was
Given special permission to live for free at the WH… well she not only lived there for free but all of a sudden she got payed 160 grand a month to be granny baby sitter!!!! Yup and after 8 years of employment she’s eligible for 165grand a month for life retirement!!!!! So much for nepotism huh, so much got letting the people know this person huh. These democrats sho are voicing all this crap are all hypocrites! Big arse pieces of Shyte! They should be ashamed of themselves….

AKLady2015

Trump has not have any ethics. Trump worships the God Profit with greed. He has scammed and cheated his way to the top. The DOJ brought 180 discrimination actions against him since 1973. He hired illegal workers to build Trump Tower. then tired to cheat them out of wages,

Peatro Giorgio

Trump enjoys more eithics in the finger nail of his pinky finger then you posses in your entire being! Name one billion dollar or more business which has not been sued ,as often or even greater then Trump Corp.
( Moron)

mrpoohead

Being sued 3500 times is definitely not a good CV. Can’t imagine all past Presidents put together would have that number.

mrpoohead

PS Think you’ll find he’s settled out of court on numerous (100+) occasions too. Avoids conviction and loss – is this a win?

AKLady2015

Name a business which has been charged 180 times, by the DOJ for the exact same law violation — discrimination, He did not win any of them, simply settled and paid a fine.
Maybe you would have felt differently if the 1973 illegals had been Hispanic rather than Polish?
Trump does not run a $ billion business, he sells his name.

Peatro Giorgio

Complaints! Verses Charges are completely different. Further more Now having reviewed just a few cases. Trump lost in but 10% of the time. Concluding an coming to an agreement ( settling) for what was far below what the actual cost of losing might have been. Even in Trumps loses Trump wins.
Now why would it matter to me if it were Hispanics instead of Polish illegals.
( Explain ) Stupid comment on your part.

Do You Really wish to Know?? Okay then ; Really it is quite self evident. Take a walk over to your family doorway entrance mirror. The image of an Ass Clown shall be reflected back at you. There’s your sign.

“Hook” – doctor or captain? Are you alluding to “Barb” being the beautiful woman in the Dr Hook’s song?

Really don’t mind if you sit this one out
My word’s but a whisper your deafness a SHOUT
I may make you feel but I can’t make you think
Your sperm’s in the gutter your love’s in the sink
So you ride yourselves over the fields
And you make all your animal deals
And your wise men don’t know how it feels
To be thick as a brick

Peatro Giorgio

You cling to the dark hope to never be found out! Like a climber on edge of loose crumbling rock ledge hand over hand inching forward only to be turned back, never to reach the summit You scream full force for help from the pitfalls so deep, only to be answer by the echoes of your own fearfilled emptiness.
Your not even sufficiently well read to grasp the concept of either the Hook or the Barb on the hook.

mrpoohead

Nope, I’m very sure of myself as I don’t iterate drivel like yourself, which is why I can easily refute most of everything you say. And you’re just waiting for the day, like all those in the cemetery.

Think you’ll find I was laughing at your English – Barb or barb, Hook or hook. Duh!

Peatro Giorgio

You exclaim certainty .Yet use a statement of uncertainty. ( I think )
Which speaks directly to the insecure, self doubting ,unease for which you exsperience each moment of your miserable useless life. My English may not be of perfection just yet. There is however, No doubt as to my abilities to leave you speechlessly standing with your thumbs stuck in your Ass.” Right ass clown”.

Thank you for making my day – funny as. Was a bit maudlin yesterday as I broke the nose on a surfboard, but you have more than made up for it.

Now can we forget the pathetic insults and get back to your usual idiotic statements which I have so much fun in destroying. Maybe you should Google first then you wouldn’t provide me with so much ammunition?

Peatro Giorgio

Well as a matter of fact if one were to look? One shall fined Ass Clown in Websters dictionary. Ass, Any of several species of quadrupeds of the same genus as the horse,a donkey (fig.)
A dull stupid fellow.
Clown : A fool or buffoon Ass with Clown together = Ass Clown Or as your Daughter’s have well nicknamed you. Mrpoohead which literally translates to shit head. Thanks for continuing to re-fill my ammo magazines.

mrpoohead

Separate words yes – one no. And it’s the latter you were using or it ain’t an insult, just silly. Actually; on second thoughts “silly” is your middle name.

Not interested in anymore insults, bit playground. Back to your idiotic missives please.

Trump involved in 3500 charges. Mostly as plaintiff. He’s won 451, many have been settled out of court. Not a good win ratio!

He’s a joke as was Clinton. The joke is now on the country – the rest of the world guffaws. 50% of the electorate didn’t vote, what a farce.

AKLady2015

If you look closely, you will see the ties between Trump and a number of Communist countries. He did business in Cuba during the embargo.

AKLady2015

You seem to equate settlement with innocence?
Why is that?

You shrug off documented racism and discrimination. Why is that”

New Jersey nailed him for laundering money for the Mob. New York just nailed him for money laundering this past year. They also hit him for that unlawful, unlicensed charity tat paid his legal expenses.

BH

This “ethics” office is as bad as the one that the GOP House members tried to change before this session began. Most people, even Trump, were bambozzled by a fake news story pushed by,the press. The said the ethics office would be “gutted” by heir move. Actually, about the only 2 changes that would have been made were putting in place a HOUSE GROUP (split evenly between parties) to oversee the committee, and to make the accusers accountable. Currently, accusations can be made anonymously and committee members can leak info to the press, even if they know it to be incomplete or inaccurate. I don’t think the changes would have been unreasonable. And they were voted on then because it was a meeting to set rules for the coming session, no legislation was allowed to be discussed.

desert fox

Where was the uprising or even questioning of this current muslim administration. Oh, they’re demoncrats—there are no ethics.

Delma Munoz

EVIL projects itself…onto others…according to what EVIL does!

Gammi2Anna

I could only read a small portion of this article before the laughter overwhelmed me and the tears in my eyes became blinding. The fact that we actually have an “Office of Government Ethics” is an oxy-moron since I am certain that no such office could be in existence since we presently have the most corrupt government we have witnessed in the past 20+ years. If indeed our tax dollars are being wasted in this manner, then it would be my suggestion that our soon to be sworn in “President Donald J. Trump” sign an order to terminate the office immediately. Giving politicians the power to oversee the ethics of other politicians is comparable to giving prisoners the keys to the prison cells, believing they will do the right thing and not escape. As a matter of fact, I’d probably trust the prisoners to do the right thing way before I could ever imagine a politician being honest.

Bolt

Dear G2A,

You certainly have reason to be skeptical.

rivahmitch

Of course, it’s “playing politics”. Is not Schaub an appointee of the Kenyan muslim/marxist?

“Government Ethics Office”, Government and Ethics in the same Title? That explains everything!

RickNHouston

Somebody’s “Pull-Up” needs changing !!!

junkmailbin

the dem world is collapsing because it is built on lies, crimes, and silence. A new order is coming in and the light will be shined upon all the muck and crimes. All the records not provided and those not burned will be made public. . Public officials and workers should not be let retire but prosecuted or fired. The NAZI cop out of , I was just doing as ordered, should be not allowed at all.

Mike Thomas

The government ethics director is a communist. Please read below what the communists believe.

Why does the Communist Part USA – “CPUSA” support the Democratic Party candidates for the presidency instead of running their own candidates?
The Communist Party does not endorse candidates from other parties, but we are deeply involved in mobilizing people to participate in the elections.
The presidential election is not just about candidates themselves. It is about choosing what direction the country will go in. So, we work with allies in the union movement, in immigrant rights and civil rights and environment and organizations of women, LGBTQ, youth, and retirees with the goal of stopping extremists like Trump and building enough “people power” to win better jobs, education, healthcare, equality and peace.
Trump’s agenda is threatening to working and poor people and our entire planet because it is based on hatred, racism, bigotry and looking out only for the .1%. But stopping Trump is not enough.
Big changes are needed to put people’s needs before profits in our country. We organize at the local level. We run in local elections, especially non-partisan. We have run presidential candidates in the past. When the labor and people’s organizations are strong enough to route the extremist corporate right wing, and when we have gained more strength at the local level, we may well decide to run national candidates again.

Bob Stewart

Shaub is the first political hack that needs to be run out of Washington. Do you think he ever did anything honestly? He is just another liberal who can’t admit defeat.

daneagle

It’s easy to see the lack of ethics the ethicman has,,,,,,typical of the dumbocrats in the obummer admin,,,,,

albertbryson

We need to eliminate the Office of Ethics. Trump and his appointees are not violating the law. We need to get rid the unethical Democrats and Establishment Republicans. Ethics is phony issue.

MidnightDStroyer

So, the Ethics committee has *finally* taken an interest in vetting people for Offices, huh? This is far, far more interest than they showed when it came to vetting Obama 8 years ago & vetting Hillary (sic) Clinton & Foundation an even shorter tie ago.

mrpoohead

Do you have any dirt on Obama – no! Clinton didn’t win so no need to investigate. God; it’s like shooting ducks in a barrel. Duh!