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Scoot 13

There have been lots of great pics of nice deer taken from many bowhunters lately. Congrats!!! Despite some of the really great pics, there have also been pics that are less than ideal.

DD, Harvey Lee, others-- can you paint the picture of what a good deer picture should have? Also, can you describe the features of a picture that are less than ideal? Mostly, I'm not talking about camera settings here- I'm talking about things a hunter can do to make a picture look tactful and nice and really show off the deer/hunter in the way they should be. Hopefully this thread will help guide future fortunate hunters so they have some great pics when they take their trophy.

I don't want to single anyone out here, so I'll hold off wiht my comments.

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perchking 23

I agree with it all but we have to remember this is not a photo shoot for LL Bean. We are all hunters here and I think a little blood doesnt hurt anybody, if I dont have a place to wipe off my hands oh well I dont have a place. I am not trying to upset the apple cart but when you harvest a deer sometimes it doesn't look pretty, I do agree not to show close up's of the vitals laying on the ground but I like to see the arrow or bullet placement and I feel better becasue I know it is a quick clean kill.

I am sure I will get some replys to this but I just wanted to give my .02 cents on what I think...

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harvey lee 13

You can see the bullet hole and still wipe off the blood.The entrance hole will still show.

It also doesnt hurt to clean your hands and the rack.I know its a harvested animal but we as hunters can still have a classy picture.Or you can used surgical gloves or the gloves that go up to your shoulders to keep clean.It is not that hard and will save alot of work for the person that has to clean all the blood off our clothes.

Bad pictures are just another avenue for the anti's to say we are slob hunters.

Dried leaves,grass and snow all help to clean the hands.I carry a wash cloth in a zip lock bag to clean up after dressing a deer.

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Great tips Harvey. Just to add a few, try to avoid the "back of the truck" pics. If this is the only place you can get to a camera, then that pic is better than no pic, but most would agree that a picture of a deer in its natural settings is better than one in the back of the truck or in the garage. Even though I have a digital camera that goes with me every time I take a hunting or fishing trip, a disposable 35mm camera is always in the glove box of the truck as well. This assures that there will always be a way to capture the animal in its natural setting.

Tips to make animal look better:

-always clean up blood, tounge, etc.

-Lay animal in a natural posture (Bedded down is my fav.)

-Try having picture taker below you (put the animal on an elevated hump or mound if possible. Also try having the photogropher lay down)

-Attempt to display your weapon. (Can be used to cover any blood which can't be cleaned. *Always remember safety!)

-I like to sit behind the animal's body (Takes attention off of me and puts it onto the animal while still including me in the pic)

-Try having the top of the animal's antlers/horns above your head (Makes them look larger)

-Try to show the animal's best features (ex. for a very wide animal, straight on is a great pic.)

-Put the sun at the back of the photogropher (Reduces glare, and illuminates the animal)

-Try to incorporate skyline or horizon in the background.

-Take multiple pictures allowing you to sort thru and find your favorite angles (Unwanted pics can always be deleted on digital cameras, and fills up 35mm cameras faster so you don't have to wait for your pics as long!!)

-Try to photograph before gutting animal if possible

I just tried these tips for the first time this year and was very happy with the results. Here is a picture of this year's antelope. I wish I would have payed more attention and closed the mouth so it doesn't look like he is showing his teeth like an angry dog!:

I know I repeated a few of Harvey's, but hope these help. Additional comments are welcomed.

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Scoot 13

Thanks HL. I agree with all you posted. Also, I agree- clean up and take a decent looking picture.

I shot my biggest buck ever when I was about 20. The only pic I have of it is in the back of a truck. What an ugly pic! I didn't know better then, but man I wish I had a decent pic of me with that buck in some slough grass or in the woods. So, I can definitely relate to HL's point number 8. A definite pet peave of mine.

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Court ruling would place unnecessary burdens on more than 500,000 White Bear Lake area residents
Judge’s ruling would immediately halt important development within 5 miles of White Bear Lake, stalling road construction, utility improvements, and residential construction
Ruling not supported by scientific evidence, creating precedent that could restrict development and impose new burdens on residents across Minnesota
The Minnesota Department of Natural Resources today announced it will appeal a Ramsey County District Court ruling regarding water management of White Bear Lake and its surrounding groundwater. Without appeal, the court’s ruling would place unnecessary burdens on more than 500,000 White Bear Lake area residents, and immediately halt important development within 5 miles of the lake – stalling road and utility improvements, business growth, and residential construction.
The judge’s ruling – which is not rooted in the best available science – would not significantly help the lake reach the court’s desired water level, and would likely set a new statewide precedent imposing similar burdens and restrictions on residents, businesses, and communities across Minnesota.
“The DNR is strongly committed to protecting Minnesota’s many precious water resources, including White Bear Lake and its surrounding aquifers. We take that responsibility very seriously,” said DNR Commissioner Tom Landwehr. “But responsible, effective water management must be supported by sound science. The decisions we make must balance the needs of all Minnesota residents and businesses to ensure everyone has reliable access to clean, affordable water. That important balance, and the quality of life we all enjoy, are at stake in this ruling, which merits a thorough review by the Minnesota Court of Appeals.”
Under the District Court’s ruling, if water levels remain below 923.5 feet above sea level in White Bear Lake, new irrigation and development restrictions would be imposed on area residents and businesses. DNR data show, however, that White Bear Lake’s water levels have registered below this proposed 923.5-foot trigger level in 48 out of the past 58 years. And according to the best available science, the DNR has concluded these new restrictions would have little impact on raising or maintaining the court’s desired water levels in White Bear Lake.
Nonetheless, if the District Court’s ruling is not overturned, residential watering would be banned for 500,000 area residents by early 2018, and could not resume until the lake rises above 924 feet. Under the court’s ruling, this expansive residential watering restriction would remain in place for multiple years during dry periods, and would have likely been in place for the past 10 years had the court’s order been in effect.
Additionally, all temporary water permits for construction within 5 miles of White Bear Lake would be immediately prohibited under the court’s ruling – a change that would stall road construction, utility, and residential development projects in area communities. In the last five years alone, 31 construction projects within 5 miles of the lake required such a permit.
“The DNR is firmly committed to protecting our lakes, rivers, and aquifers. But unnecessary water restrictions can be profoundly disruptive to people, our economy, and communities,” Landwehr said. “The science does not support such a broad irrigation ban, nor these extremely restrictive development prohibitions. More importantly, these restrictions would do little to achieve or sustain desirable water levels in White Bear Lake.”
Landwehr said, however, that the agency does believe some changes to water use may be needed and it is developing an enhanced water model to better understand the impact of pumping from specific wells near White Bear Lake. “This is information that we have only recently been able to develop,” he said. “With this new tool, we are committed to working with local communities, businesses and residents to make carefully targeted, well-informed modifications to water use in the area.”
DNR water experts and local government leaders have serious concerns about the precedent the court’s ruling could establish. If applied elsewhere in Minnesota, this restrictive approach to water management could severely curtail new and amended groundwater appropriation permits for all types of uses, beyond what is needed to ensure water sustainability.
The DNR has until Oct. 30 to appeal the court’s decision, but is announcing its decision now because many area communities are concerned with the ruling and want to know how the DNR will proceed. During the appeal process, the DNR will work with permit holders in the White Bear Lake area to implement some elements of the ruling. The agency will be talking soon with communities about how it will approach this in as collaborative a manner as possible.
Discuss below - to view set the hook here.

I wouldn't let length or hp determine that, just the wind. I saw a boat that lost a rivet this last year and have heard about a weld cracking out there. The wind is no joke out there and any boat can take a hit. If it is really windy I just swing into Kabekona Bay. Otherwise, just count on it taking a while to get out to spots.

I do, never thought about it. I will ask my buddy and I will have to work on blind retrieves. I never have done blind retrieves with Finn. I will have learn up on it now. If you have any tips or tricks it would help. Thank you Dave

Didn't catch a ton of fish this weekend but the ones we got were beauties. Just a bunch 15-17 inch fish with a 25" mixed in there. Last 2 days have been tough after the storm Sunday night. Marking tons of fish still and getting a good amount of bites on both spinners and lindys but most are biting short and tough to hook on the big minnows. Don't really want to throw on a stinger hook but that might be the way to go. Maybe should try pulling some cranks too.
Looks like the rest of the week should be stable weather and good fishing!

Water temps are hovering in the low 60’s despite the very fall like weather we are experiencing.

The scenic Canadian shore lines are coming to life with various critters. Otter, bear and more making preparations for the coming winter.

Walleye fishing in Canada is excellent with a jig and minnow or shiner. The most productive environment has been gaps at 15-18’ with plenty of current present. Good numbers of perch are being caught off deep edges or reefs at 30’ or more. Crappies are a little more difficult this week, the best chances are on a light set up.

Around Minnesota, walleyes can still be had with a crankbait but favored methods are switching over to a jig tipped with a shiner on main lake points between 20 and 24’.

Muskies are moving deeper with anglers transitioning from casting to trolling. There is still time to boat a big fall fish!

Im not a waterfowl guy and dont do a lot of it. But isn't that why you retriever guys do blind retrieves?
My GSP's dont always mark down birds either and I just send them with hand signals. I think its just something we have worked on over time.
Do you know anyone that has access to a zinger winger launcher etc. That's about the only other way to replicate it with out doing the real thing.

Thanks Dave this seemed to help with grouse, woodcocks,and ducks.
How does a guy get a dog to stay focused on the sky watching for birds? Finn did great at sitting or laying down for ducks but he does not watch for them so he does not mark the birds then. Any ideas to get him to do this?