Tigger wrote:

An XC60 it is then ( just don’t be tempted by the “Twin engine” ).

If LR still made the FL2, would you have just had another?

Probably not - there is absolutely nothing wrong with my present car it does everything I ask of it and has been utterly reliable I am just BORED with it and want a change - but with some of the benefits of FL2 ownership
Someone will be getting a good buy when I come to dispose of it - I hope its replacement proves as good that's why I am "pfaffing" around2013MY Fuji White GS

"Fiat Lux" a philosophy not a car

4th Jul 2019 10:00 am

Tigger

Member Since: 30 Mar 2011
Location: L15KRD
Posts: 2539

Isn’t it odd how you can really like a car and then, all of a sudden, it gets boring and it’s time for a change. Been there! Never with a LR though...

Please accept my apologies for not replying to your PM’s; it’s not that I’m being rude, I’d like to reply, it’s just that the site won’t allow me to.

4th Jul 2019 11:11 am

MartynB

Member Since: 08 Aug 2011
Location: Halifax
Posts: 1530

We had the last Defender for 13 or 14 years , we’ve had the FL2 for 8 of it’s 10 year life . On retiring I bought the Scooby in which I’ve done 40k in 3 years , and I’ll probably keep that for years . I suppose I’m lucky I don’t get bored , to me cars are just a means to an end and replacement is just a chore . When did my pre retirement shopping I did try a few Volvos , and I must say the seats, cabins and general ergonomics were outstanding . I hated VAG garages as they are just there to sell finance deals . The only thing at the moment that would get me to chip in the FL2 is an ISUZU pickup with the Huntsman pack 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Halifax winter necessity.
2016 Subaru Outback SE 2.0 diesel SE Premium Lineartronic the Thinking Man's AWD

I sold my 2008 HSE 2 years ago and got a VW Tiguan. Although it does everything I need it to, it doesn't set my heart on fire.
I also, have to agree with the comment about VW dealers, as I am regularly being contacted with invites to look at the latest deals.

I miss not having a Freelander, so much so,that I keep looking a Autotrader,and I am considering getting another one next year.

"I also, have to agree with the comment about VW dealers, as I am regularly being contacted with invites to look at the latest deals.
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Its not just VW dealers - I keep receiving invites to look at the latest models from my local JLR dealership - Ive not been there since I bought the car 41/2 years ago.Jules

5th Jul 2019 10:22 am

MartynB

Member Since: 08 Aug 2011
Location: Halifax
Posts: 1530

The problem I have with VAG garages is the fact that all they want to do is sell finance . I’m sitting in nigh on £40, 000 worth of TT and I’m a cash buyer . I asked about a discount , I’m told that the only way is a “ contribution “ to a finance plan . I offer the opinion that if I did take a plan out I’d cancel it and pay the balance so let’s cut out the bit in-between . The salesman could not have been less interested , not while he could flog cars to people who were less credit worthy than my cat.

Subaru are the opposite end of the scale , the typical buyer self finances , keeps the car 7 years , and the sales guys are used to dealing with people who are buying rather than being “ sold to “ .

I’ve just had an invite to drive the new petrol” light self charging hybrid” Forester , if I take it up there will be no pressure, as an existing customer they know there is a very high probability that I’ll be back in year 7 . A different way of treating customers .2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Halifax winter necessity.
2016 Subaru Outback SE 2.0 diesel SE Premium Lineartronic the Thinking Man's AWD

5th Jul 2019 1:20 pm

Lightwater

Member Since: 21 Aug 2014
Location: Sydney NB
Posts: 2946

I've always been a cash buyer. Have you tried at the end of the month when they are looking for sales to meet targets to get bonuses!

But yes I did walk into several dealerships around the 28th of November a couple of years ago looking for a replacement for the Ewok. Got a call on the 30th from a dealer some way away, I have the perfect car for you sir and we can do a deal.

SO I get there and it's a low mileage DS with all the toys including electric towball but in grey (Gill wanted grey), but too expensive. we knock him down as far as we could, were walking away and he came up with a plan. I pay the HP and the dealership pay me back £50 a month !!
I'll give Farnells there due, they have paid the cash back as promised, and I do have a very nice LR to drive around in.

I'm happy, Gills happy, and they got a sale in the afternoon of the last day of the month.Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
Replaced by Ewok what a mistake - now a happy Disco Sport owner

5th Jul 2019 5:53 pm

MartynB

Member Since: 08 Aug 2011
Location: Halifax
Posts: 1530

Lightwater wrote:

I've always been a cash buyer. Have you tried at the end of the month when they are looking for sales to meet targets to get bonuses!

I know what your talking about I bought the Scooby from a dealer wanting sales volume for targets
Using a car broker quote for leverage. I even took their zero percent 12 month 50/50 offer

However one of the best internet car brokers in the U.K. will always quote the lowest prices on a couple of particular brands by advising that if you wish to own the car from day one . you will sign up for the in-house finance to get a “ manufacturers contribution towards the price” .Then exercise your right to cancel the finance in month one .

westville wrote:

- there is absolutely nothing wrong with my present car it does everything I ask of it and has been utterly reliable I am just BORED with it and want a change - but with some of the benefits of FL2 ownership

Sounds to me like you need to get into a D4...... I got back in one and I'm loving it .
Absolutely nothing against the FL2 btw, great motor. FL2 now gone and have a couple of items left for sale:-

I loved all three of my FL2’s and have many happy memories. However, while the D4’s were so similar to the FL2, they were also so much nicer in virtually every way, with even more character and fun value than the FL2!!

Please accept my apologies for not replying to your PM’s; it’s not that I’m being rude, I’d like to reply, it’s just that the site won’t allow me to.

5th Jul 2019 10:49 pm

j77

Member Since: 26 Nov 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 2872

D3 was the best of the bunch.

I’ll never forget the first one I saw, a silver HSE, it looked like it should’ve been exploring the moon. I sill have the brochure that I spent hours drooling over before purchasing my one, a 1 1/2 year old bog standard 7 seater as that brought air suspension and TR if a mind correctly.

I’m hoping to get that feeling back with the new Defender 110. Don’t get me wrong I love the Velar, it makes an excellent all weather GT car but there’s just that something missing.18MY Velar R-Dynamic SE D240, Fuji White

6th Jul 2019 1:35 pm

Tigger

Member Since: 30 Mar 2011
Location: L15KRD
Posts: 2539

Never owned, or even driven a D3, but I certainly prefer the way it looks (both inside and out).