Sofa_king_kewl:This is why I love Fark so much, it's a site inion dated with arm chair lawyers, self righteous liberals and a bunch of just plan old assholes. He was found not guilty, I hope he still carries his weapon, he may need it.

This is why I love Fark so much, it's full of righteous indignation posted without as much as a cursory proofread.

doyner:Sofa_king_kewl: This is why I love Fark so much, it's a site inion dated with arm chair lawyers, self righteous liberals and a bunch of just plan old assholes. He was found not guilty, I hope he still carries his weapon, he may need it.

This is why I love Fark so much, it's full of righteous indignation posted without as much as a cursory proofread.

I kept reading that as 'onion dated' and was trying to figure out what kind of Grandpa Simpson angle he was going for.

tenpoundsofcheese:Befuddled: Why do so many quote Zimmerman's BS account of what happened as if it were proven fact? His account is totally unbelievable. Zimmerman was incredibly lucky that there were no other witnesses to his crime so he could make up a story that would vindicate him and that the investigators to his crime were incompetent.

Ok, I'll bite.

What do you think happened.Keep in mind what happened the other 46 times he called 911, his 1/10 rating from the MMA instructor, his history of working across racial lines to help people (the black homeless person, the tutoring), the bruises he had and the lack of any on Martin.Throw in his reenactment for the police (he didn't lawyer up) and the consistency of all the prosecution witnesses.

Go ahead, tell me what happened and be specific.

In the dark of night he prowled. Sweat glistening off his lean buttocks, the wind whispering through his hair. How long had he waited for this? How long? He picked up the scent of his prey on the wind, half-germanic, half-latino, the faint whiff of cheetos and Michelob set his mind at ease: this would be easy prey. He circled back through the parking lot sniffing the ground, he had lost his handlers hours ago and they may find him at any time, he had to be quick. He spotted his prey wending through the buildings, the thick heat of a summer's night bearing down on him, he could almost taste the delicious man flesh and the delicious snapping of bones.

In an instant he sprang, leaping out of the shadows. His furry arm reaching out to end the fight before it even began. He was shocked when the portly young man spun around, grabbing a gun from his back holster with preternatural swiftness. He managed to get one claw on him and force him to the ground. Shots rang out in the empty night, but he was too swift and the bullets only grazed him. But then he heard a thud behind him, the bullets meant for him struck another. His lupine lips curled in a sneer of frustration, one death could go unnoticed, two would be problematic. He leaped up, bounding on top of the apartment buildings and rushing to the safety of his private plane waiting for him on the tarmac, he always returned, even if he was covered in blood.

George Zimmerman stood dumbstruck. Who would believe him if he told the truth? They would think him mad, MAD! In the cold dark of the night the crushing burden of the awful truth fell upon him, he knew he would get no rest, he would never be safe again.

Were-Obama would find him. Were-Obama would never forget. On night in the dark, those red eyes would come calling for him. Zimmerman wept.

TuteTibiImperes:FTA: "He's going to be looking over his shoulder the rest of his life," Robert Zimmerman Jr. said during an interview on CNN.

I wonder how he'll react the first time a black guy starts following him around his neighborhood at night.

If that happens, think Zimmerman should:

1) GET ANGRY - OUTRAGED at the idea that ANY "creepy-ass cracker hunter" might be looking at him "funny"2) RUN (so as not to look suspicious)3) HIDE (so he can see what that "creepy-ass cracker hunter" is up to4) JUMP OUT AND CONFRONT the "creepy-ass cracker hunter"5) PUNCH the "creepy-ass cracker hunter" in the nose, knocking him down6) POUNCE on top of the "creepy-ass cracker hunter" banging his head on concrete, if possible7) PUMMEL the "creepy-ass cracker hunter" mercilessly, as the "creepy-ass cracker hunter" cries for help8) SMOTHER the "creepy-ass cracker hunter" to try to keep him from screaming9) IGNORE concerned neighbors when they tell him to stop, and that they're calling police, AND10) DIE when the "creepy-ass cracker hunter" pulls a concealed weapon and blasts Zimmerman in the chest

Because that's what harmless, innocent people (like Trayvon) do when they see someone eying them with suspicion, right?

Oh_Enough_Already:So now that this trial is over, will most Farkers go back to not giving a shiat about the dozens of black teens killed every day in America?

Yeah but that is black on black violence so it doesn't matter. Also those victims don't have bags of skittles either. When a hispanic man kills a black teen, THEN it is time to call him white and make it all about race and get angry.

Popcorn Johnny:The Great EZE: That's just the way it is, has been since the founding of America. Are you denying that the lives of black men aren't traditionally held at a lower perceived value relative to other people in the country?

What's the way it is? This incident made it's way through the legal system and the jury made a decision. Either you can point out racial bias along the way, or you have to be accusing the jury of making a ruling based on race.

Again, my statement is much broader than this case and this jury. We're living in a society where an unarmed kid can be shot in the street and, when proven that he wasn't doing anything illegal, the knee-jerk reaction is, "Let's check his records for school suspensions, drug use, and stupid social media pictures!" Whether you absorbed every word related to the case or whether you live under a rock, it is a mentality engrained in every person (black, white, young, old, male, female, otherwise) on some level and influences the judgements they make.

I'm not saying this information was used as part of GM's legal defense. But if you don't think somebody might have been influenced by the possibility that TM did something in the past to deserve it, you're hopelessly naive.

No, this doesn't mean the jury is full of cross-burning Klanswomen. Back to my original point: how can you say certain people are held to an equal standard when they get killed for Walking While Black and still need to defend their character from beyond the grave?

Unfortunately, for the most part, no way to tell who's trolling and who actually believes this nonsense

Bah......you have to be here at 2:00 AM when things get really unhinged.

I'm really bummed I missed the reading of the verdict and the in-the-moment excitement. I listened to almost every second of the trial, and participated in all the threads, and the damn jury came back while I was go-karting :(

Unfortunately, for the most part, no way to tell who's trolling and who actually believes this nonsense

Bah......you have to be here at 2:00 AM when things get really unhinged.

I'm really bummed I missed the reading of the verdict and the in-the-moment excitement. I listened to almost every second of the trial, and participated in all the threads, and the damn jury came back while I was go-karting :(

Treygreen13:Dimensio: jaytkay: Carth: I've never seen a law that says you can hit someone for being afraid of them

The Florida self defense statute states, "A person is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another...

Fear. That's the standard. You can attack someone if you are afraid they will harm you.

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I do not understand how hou have failed to comprehend the law that you have quoted directly. Based upon the wording of the law, an unreasonable fear is not legal justification for the use of deadly force.

Dimensio, you have the patience of Buddha. How do you remain so diplomatic?

FriarReb98:Funny, but this headline is pretty much exactly what I said in the main thread. He basically has to pay his way into a rich, gated, well-secured community and hide in there. He can't just move to an all-white neighborhood because he'd be labeled Hispanic immediately. He can never enjoy vacations, he can never get lost in the wrong neighborhood, he can never walk to get anything because he'll see shadows following him. He'll eventually lose sleep over it, obsessing over the idea that everyone's out to get him, and end up dying miserable. Which, I'm sure, will please most everyone who wanted him to get executed for what he did.

\me? Kinda surprised he survived the early hiccups in his case to get out of it.\\I'll never bother finding out if I need to believe one way or the other because I really don't care about him\\\just a dumbass racist who lucked out & did this in the craziest state in the country

Your tears are delicious. As are all vindictive liberal tears right now. Nancy Grace is on suicide watch as we speak. By all means, please proceed.

rewind2846:Mr. Breeze: What makes you think GZ had the intent to be an executioner, as opposed to committing an act of self defense?

When you carry a gun, you should realize that you can instantly take someone's life with it. If you're not prepared for that kind of responsibility, you shouldn't carry.When he went to confront Martin, he had his gun with him. The possibility that he may have to use it should have been foremost in his mind, as well as the consequences of that use. If he wasn't thinking about this the gun should have stayed in the truck.

Possibility and intent are two different things. I'd almost guarantee that when he started following TM, he wasn't planning on using his weapon. Things change when you are on your back and someone is beating the crap out of you. If he would have left the gun in his truck, he might have been the one killed that night.

phenn:Iowan73: phenn: Iowan73: There is no evidence of who started the fight. But the only reason those two ever met was because Zimmerman made it happen.

So? Was that illegal?

No. I don't think he should have been convicted of murder. But he is at least partially responsible for getting himself into a an easily avoidable situation and then having to shoot his way out. If he had minded his own business or left it to the police, none of this would have happened.

We can certainly agree on that. He acted stupidly. Totally agree. Doesn't rise to second degree murder, but definitely eaten alive by dumbass.

Which was more stupid, following someone or attacking someone for following?I wonder how many people in New York are followed by another person while walking a day.......So while i'm taking notes on the new world order, I'm white so I can't walk behind a black person, I cant say I'm not for Obamacare, and I can't even vote for a republican or i'm a racist, right?

sheep snorter:Florida jurys are so lame when the main evidence was Zimmerman leaving his vehicle when told not too(automatically invalidates any 'stand your ground' law for Zimmerman and gives 'stand your ground' to the kid.Zimmerman at least should of gotten a year in prison or house arrest for that due to the resulting murder of the kid.[i.imgur.com image 388x356]

Xetal:I was wondering this as well. What do you think the odds are that Zimmerman is found shot to death. He should be very careful where he goes and with who, I'm sure there are plenty of people looking for vigilante justice.

... and those type of knucleheads will forget all about it when thier next unemployment/disability/welfare check is deposited in thier checking account in the 15th (tomorrow).

rewind2846:Elegy:So because you decide to carry a gun on your person and follow all acceptable laws in doing so, you should forfeit all rights to leave your home, forever.

The point, you missed it. This isn't about "guns" genius, it's about someone who wanted to be a cop so badly that he chose to run around in the middle of the night like the motherfarking Batman.

You want to make it about guns, go right ahead, all you gun nuts do. That's your fetish, not mine. This wasn't the case here... it was about some pussy ass who chose to do what he had no business doing, what he had been advised not to do by the police dispatcher, even if he had been armed with only a paper clip and a rubber band. Even if you have a gun a responsible gun owner DOES NOT INSTIGATE OR CONFRONT, because any gun owner with two working brain cells realizes the deadly potential of the object they are carrying.

If you are a pussy ass you do not instigate contact or confront people. You wait your ass in the truck until the police you just called show up.

a pu$$y a$$ is an interesting concept, anal and vaginal intercourse all in one, you should invent it and market it

seadoo2006:Representative of the unwashed masses: true that may be but the spate of pictures intending to paint the kid as a lowlife is spitting in his families face. that's what I find disgusting. Zimmerman may not have broken the law but he made the first of many bad decisions that led to Matrin's death.

Except for, you know, the pictures of the kid from 5 years prior that were digitally lightened to make him seem 'less frightening' when the reality was this kid was up to no good and was actively beating a guy into the ground for the mere fact that he was - LEGALLY - following him.

Guess what? Our community does the same thing. We have police in unmarked Malibus that patrol our streets for this very reason ...

That's a great analogy. Because Zimmerman was a cop in an unmarked Malibu.

This About That:I hear he has made quite a tidy profit, with at least one book deal to come. On the other hand, the civil suits haven't even started yet.

That is what I am thinking. Trayon Martin's family will sue Zimmerman, win, and Zimmerman will basically be Trayvon Martin's family's indentured servant for the rest of his life. If someone doesn't kill Zimmerman, he will probably "off" himself within 5 years because of being hated and broke.

SevenizGud:sheep snorter: Florida jurys are so lame when the main evidence was Zimmerman leaving his vehicle when told not too(automatically invalidates any 'stand your ground' law for Zimmerman and gives 'stand your ground' to the kid.Zimmerman at least should of gotten a year in prison or house arrest for that due to the resulting murder of the kid.[i.imgur.com image 388x356]

Yeah, because the dispatcher told him not to follow, therefore Zimmerman never has any right to stand his ground...even if Martin assaults him in the Arby's parking lot a month later. Because he's waived his right to stand his ground against Martin, amirite?

But hey, I am sure you know more about the law than the judge.

A month later isn't the same as minutes later. You're saying I can stalk you from my vehicle while you're walking on foot, get out and confront you, saying only-god-knows what to pick a fight, then shoot you and say self defense? Zimmerman put himself in harms way, even if Martin got the upper hand in a fight, there wasn't an immediate threat to life until Zimmerman caused it.

Do you honestly agree with defense tactic of saying Martin wasn't unarmed because of cement? I That's like saying those killed at Kent State weren't unarmed because there was pavement around them. The kids killed at Columbine H.S. weren't unarmed because of hard tile floors, and metal lockers, and chairs and desks... The people at the federal building in OKC when McVeigh bombed it, the people in the WTC, they weren't unarmed! There was so much cement in those buildings!

Tell me, would any of this had happened had Zimmerman simply stayed in his truck and waited for the police, whom he had called and were on their way?We have neighborhood watch where I live, and that is what they do. They carry no weapons. They have a flashlight and a cellphone. They are simply living smart cameras that watch what goes on in the neighborhood, hence the name "neighborhood watch". They do not confront, they do not question, and most of all, they do not attempt to apprehend. They observe and report, that is all.

Would it have been that difficult for this two time police department reject and robocop wannabe to do just that? Wait in the truck for the cops? That's where the stupid is, and your choice to defend this waste of human skin says much about you.

But black kids are dangerous. Someone had to take a stand against.. uh.. them walking at night.

Sofa_king_kewl:This is why I love Fark so much, it's a site inion dated with arm chair lawyers, self righteous liberals and a bunch of just plan old assholes. He was found not guilty, I hope he still carries his weapon, he may need it.

Tell me, would any of this had happened had Zimmerman simply stayed in his truck and waited for the police, whom he had called and were on their way?We have neighborhood watch where I live, and that is what they do. They carry no weapons. They have a flashlight and a cellphone. They are simply living smart cameras that watch what goes on in the neighborhood, hence the name "neighborhood watch". They do not confront, they do not question, and most of all, they do not attempt to apprehend. They observe and report, that is all.

Would it have been that difficult for this two time police department reject and robocop wannabe to do just that? Wait in the truck for the cops? That's where the stupid is, and your choice to defend this waste of human skin says much about you.

Wow...the stupid is out on a Sunday. The inability for some of you to actually review the evidence is astounding. Hopefully if you ever have someone beating the shiat out of you and smashing your head into the sidewalk you won't bother protecting your life if you have the ability.

We all know about HOA's here on Fark. We all now about the HOA Nazi like idiots who get a little power and ruin people's lives. Now they can take lives also.

Farkers,

In what world is it ok to take it upon yourself to see a black kid walking down the street in your HOA neighborhood, go arm yourself with a gun...get a couple of flashlights and go stalk a kid drinking Arizona tea and eating Skittles while walking while black? Zimmerman is a wanna be cop HOA Nazi who stalked and instigated a confrontation and got his ass beat. Zimmerman deserved it. The kid had no deadly weapon and paid with his life.

Yeah, their names are sealed, but we're in 2013 here. All it takes is one J4T script kiddie or a guy who knows a guy who knows a coworker who noticed "say, I haven't seen Alice in three weeks, she's been awful mum about what she was doing, but I think she mentioned jury duty, and come to think of it one of the jurors was a 32-year-old mother of two..."

Sofa_king_kewl:This is why I love Fark so much, it's a site inion dated with arm chair lawyers, self righteous liberals and a bunch of just plan old assholes. He was found not guilty, I hope he still carries his weapon, he may need it.

I'd like to see the same people who believe O.J. "obviously" did it come here to explain to us all how Zimmerman can't possibly be a murderer because he was found not guilty.

This is why I love Fark so much, it's a site inion dated with arm chair lawyers, self righteous liberals and a bunch of just plan old assholes. He was found not guilty, I hope he still carries his weapon, he may need it.