5_Golden_Rings wrote:If any Seahawk fan (or anyone really) in this discussion who has watched the 49er games this season and is not 100% convinced that the injury to Garoppolo is the problem, that person is blind or football ignorant. Beathard processes slower than Kaepernick. Let that sink in. Beathard repeatedly misses wide open passing windows, over and over again, taking horrid sacks, throwing late, and turning the ball over.

If Garoppolo isn’t an idiot and keeps going out of bounds, they are 4-4 right now (guaranteed that with a qb who can pick up a first down every once in a while they beat Arizona twice and San Diego). Possibly even 5-3 (the Packer game).

If you have spent any time watching Beathard, you know HE is the reason the team is losing. He even threw the INT that blew the game against Green Bay.

Now, however, getting someone like Nick Bosa would be worth the ACL injury. Unfortunately, if they beat the Raiders kiss that goodbye, because Las Vegas will draft him number one overall.

Seems pretty brittle to ride JG to mere mediocrity and and abyss awaits without him.

5_Golden_Rings wrote:If any Seahawk fan (or anyone really) in this discussion who has watched the 49er games this season and is not 100% convinced that the injury to Garoppolo is the problem, that person is blind or football ignorant. Beathard processes slower than Kaepernick. Let that sink in. Beathard repeatedly misses wide open passing windows, over and over again, taking horrid sacks, throwing late, and turning the ball over.

If Garoppolo isn’t an idiot and keeps going out of bounds, they are 4-4 right now (guaranteed that with a qb who can pick up a first down every once in a while they beat Arizona twice and San Diego). Possibly even 5-3 (the Packer game).

If you have spent any time watching Beathard, you know HE is the reason the team is losing. He even threw the INT that blew the game against Green Bay.

Now, however, getting someone like Nick Bosa would be worth the ACL injury. Unfortunately, if they beat the Raiders kiss that goodbye, because Las Vegas will draft him number one overall.

Seems pretty brittle to ride JG to mere mediocrity and and abyss awaits without him.

There may not be a team in the NFL that doesn't see their season fall apart if their QB gets hurt and is lost for the year in week 3.

The ones where it doesn't make a difference are teams where the starter is no better than the backup.

Despite the problems at QB the 49ers actually have the 6th ranked rushing offense in the NFL. No Joke. a 1-7 team who is about to be 1-8 because now the BACKUP QB is hurt and likely won't play on a short week.

I haven’t seen him like this since a lot of us called Kap “Captain One read”, or said Harby would jump the Niners ship, when Marvin said he wouldn’t take “a lesser job” in college. Good times peeps, good times!

Lucky that you have Paraag Marathe, always around to pick the next Savior. Will let you know what Paraag thinks if I run into him in one of Silicon Valley's Indian gatherings. NO ONE in NFL has more HC hiring experience than Paraag. He is the man. You guys are sooooooooooooooooo lucky to have him, Stanford guy, smart, articulated, knows football, expert in hiring saviors.

Lucky that you have Paraag Marathe, always around to pick the next Savior. Will let you know what Paraag thinks if I run into him in one of Silicon Valley's Indian gatherings. NO ONE in NFL has more HC hiring experience than Paraag. He is the man. You guys are sooooooooooooooooo lucky to have him, Stanford guy, smart, articulated, knows football, expert in hiring saviors.

What the hell is your measure of a rebuild? They were in the NFC Championship in 2011, 2012, and 2013.

That's the recent peak. They tried and failed miserably to reload with Tomsula and Kelly and finally scrapped it all and started over with Lynch and Shanahan. This is 1.5 years into the rebuild. The expectation was that this would be a long process and then Garoppolo unexpectedly won 5 straight games. Then, this year, he tore his ACL. It's really that simple.

Sports Hernia wrote:LOL, Now you guys done it! You got Marvin’s back UP!

I haven’t seen him like this since a lot of us called Kap “Captain One read”, or said Harby would jump the Niners ship, when Marvin said he wouldn’t take “a lesser job” in college. Good times peeps, good times!

I'd love to say I didn't say any of those thing, but that would be unfair.

1) I was wrong on Kap. I admit it. I still think he can be effective and they really screwed him by trying to make him do something he wasn't good at, but I was wrong.

2) For the record, I didn't think he'd jump ship to Michigan because it never occurred to me that he'd be fired. Reality is Niners had choice between Baalke and Harbaugh, and Niners made wrong choice. That said, Harbaugh did alot to force managements hand and I don't think he'll be at Michigan much longer. He never last more than 5 years anywhere.

Still tho, I'll man up and say that I never thought he'd go to Michigan.

There's people here who get their rocks off at throwing mud at 9ers fans, just as there's people in the Hawks thread at the Zone who get their rocks off throwing mud at Hawks fans.

There are two things that are funny about this:

(1) Both of these groups of fans blame the other group for why they behave the way they do.

(2) Both of these groups spend most of their time trolling fans from the other team that don't behave this way, because when you try to troll a troll it just doesn't go anywhere.

In short, each group looooooooves to use the other group as an alibi for their own obnoxious behavior, but these alibis are really just props. Beyond blaming each other for their own poor behavior they mostly ignore each other, and target people with sincere motives who are trying to engage in conversations instead of just trying to get a rise out of people.

SIDEBAR: I've spent my entire online life being curious about what % of (and which) trolls are what we could call "self-aware" trolls who actually know that they're trolls and are being deliberately obnoxious and trollish, versus what we could call "aloof" trolls who are totally not self-aware about their trolling and are just crazy people. There's no way to answer it obviously, but I think about it WAY MORE than I probably should.

Popeyejones wrote:SIDEBAR: I've spent my entire online life being curious about what % of (and which) trolls are what we could call "self-aware" trolls who actually know that they're trolls and are being deliberately obnoxious and trollish, versus what we could call "aloof" trolls who are totally not self-aware about their trolling and are just crazy people. There's no way to answer it obviously, but I think about it WAY MORE than I probably should.

Popeyejones wrote:There's people here who get their rocks off at throwing mud at 9ers fans, just as there's people in the Hawks thread at the Zone who get their rocks off throwing mud at Hawks fans.

There are two things that are funny about this:

(1) Both of these groups of fans blame the other group for why they behave the way they do.

(2) Both of these groups spend most of their time trolling fans from the other team that don't behave this way, because when you try to troll a troll it just doesn't go anywhere.

In short, each group looooooooves to use the other group as an alibi for their own obnoxious behavior, but these alibis are really just props. Beyond blaming each other for their own poor behavior they mostly ignore each other, and target people with sincere motives who are trying to engage in conversations instead of just trying to get a rise out of people.

SIDEBAR: I've spent my entire online life being curious about what % of (and which) trolls are what we could call "self-aware" trolls who actually know that they're trolls and are being deliberately obnoxious and trollish, versus what we could call "aloof" trolls who are totally not self-aware about their trolling and are just crazy people. There's no way to answer it obviously, but I think about it WAY MORE than I probably should.

Sports Hernia wrote:LOL, Now you guys done it! You got Marvin’s back UP!

I haven’t seen him like this since a lot of us called Kap “Captain One read”, or said Harby would jump the Niners ship, when Marvin said he wouldn’t take “a lesser job” in college. Good times peeps, good times!

I'd love to say I didn't say any of those thing, but that would be unfair.

1) I was wrong on Kap. I admit it. I still think he can be effective and they really screwed him by trying to make him do something he wasn't good at, but I was wrong.

2) For the record, I didn't think he'd jump ship to Michigan because it never occurred to me that he'd be fired. Reality is Niners had choice between Baalke and Harbaugh, and Niners made wrong choice. That said, Harbaugh did alot to force managements hand and I don't think he'll be at Michigan much longer. He never last more than 5 years anywhere.

Still tho, I'll man up and say that I never thought he'd go to Michigan.

Popeyejones wrote:There's people here who get their rocks off at throwing mud at 9ers fans, just as there's people in the Hawks thread at the Zone who get their rocks off throwing mud at Hawks fans.

There are two things that are funny about this:

(1) Both of these groups of fans blame the other group for why they behave the way they do.

(2) Both of these groups spend most of their time trolling fans from the other team that don't behave this way, because when you try to troll a troll it just doesn't go anywhere.

In short, each group looooooooves to use the other group as an alibi for their own obnoxious behavior, but these alibis are really just props. Beyond blaming each other for their own poor behavior they mostly ignore each other, and target people with sincere motives who are trying to engage in conversations instead of just trying to get a rise out of people.

SIDEBAR: I've spent my entire online life being curious about what % of (and which) trolls are what we could call "self-aware" trolls who actually know that they're trolls and are being deliberately obnoxious and trollish, versus what we could call "aloof" trolls who are totally not self-aware about their trolling and are just crazy people. There's no way to answer it obviously, but I think about it WAY MORE than I probably should.

Reading your last paragraph...... Honest question, do you ever ask yourself if you are doing some non-conscious trolling at times here? Not trying to start anything just curious.

Popeyejones wrote:SIDEBAR: I've spent my entire online life being curious about what % of (and which) trolls are what we could call "self-aware" trolls who actually know that they're trolls and are being deliberately obnoxious and trollish, versus what we could call "aloof" trolls who are totally not self-aware about their trolling and are just crazy people. There's no way to answer it obviously, but I think about it WAY MORE than I probably should.

Same!

Yeah, I'm... I'm not sure anyone wants the answer to that.

"The ultimate number is W's, and that’s what matters in Santa Clara. As such, Jed York does not own the 49ers; Russell Wilson does." - Paul Gutierrez

Sports Hernia wrote:LOL, Now you guys done it! You got Marvin’s back UP!

I haven’t seen him like this since a lot of us called Kap “Captain One read”, or said Harby would jump the Niners ship, when Marvin said he wouldn’t take “a lesser job” in college. Good times peeps, good times!

Kap was never a one read QB. He was a QB who couldn't make anticipatory throws.

Sports Hernia wrote:LOL, Now you guys done it! You got Marvin’s back UP!

I haven’t seen him like this since a lot of us called Kap “Captain One read”, or said Harby would jump the Niners ship, when Marvin said he wouldn’t take “a lesser job” in college. Good times peeps, good times!

Kap was never a one read QB. He was a QB who couldn't make anticipatory throws.