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can't really see the picture well since it's grainy BUT i think she's trying to choke a kitten to death with both of her hands. i think that's a kitten she's holding. is it? i know she's holding what i believe is an animal.

one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry

No, don't repost it because that would be wrong. But keep it and use it as your own secret testament to your secret love. Use it for your fevered masturbation fantasies. Use it, and use it often to feed your orgasms.

Well, what else would he use it for?

Originally Posted by Seghers

I'm all for people getting laid, hired and becoming popular as well, but the point is that in reality you have no idea what purpose people are using your picture for. You can claim that you wouldn't care if someone uses your picture but the bottom line is that most people would care, and you know that as well as I.

Well, here's hoping you're getting good use from mine. And if you want to posit yourself in the "I care about a guy potentially getting his picture used without his permission" spot, that's all fine and good. But that's just not the vibe I'm getting.

I never had that "fear of monsters under the bed/in the closet/down the hall" thing. I think I vaguely had a fear of UFOs taking over the world at one point, and I recall being scared of nuclear war for a long stretch. Both seem rather specific for a child to have, in retrospect.

it seems like everytime i'm in a good mood, somebody or something ends up pissing me off. man, i'm just trying to be happy BUT somebody outthere seems to want to piss me off to the point where i feel like beating their ass, choking them out, threatening them, or doing something else crazy. it would be one thing if i wasn't in the position that i'm in now BUT if i feel like my back is against the wall where i'm feeling down, stressed out and etc then i feel like i should respond through physical means as a way of saying don't try to make me more annoyed than i am already. i don't want to hurt you BUT i will if you push me.

one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry

My best guess is carbon. Better than God - gives us life (basis for organic compounds); worst than the Devil - atomic number 6 (this is where I feel wrong); poors have it - obviously all living things have carbon in them; riches need it - diamonds are pure carbon; if you eat it, you die - all I can come up with is carbon is found in cyanide

Halloween is by far my least favorite holiday. I think if I got scared easily, I would enjoy it more but I don't. It's the same reasons I find horror movies usually cheesy right up there with survival horror games.

Halloween is by far my least favorite holiday. I think if I got scared easily, I would enjoy it more but I don't. It's the same reasons I find horror movies usually cheesy right up there with survival horror games.

If my facebook feed is to be believed, everybody hates Christmas and everything associated with it, but Halloween should last at least four months.

Are you of such a mind where ANY display of nudity is an overt sexual statement screaming for someone to fuck them?

One of the biggest disconnects I see here is, If these Pic stealing "Crimes" were in the 'real' world I would compare them to: Identity Theft, and Rape (in that you're pretending to be them, and essentially using their body for sexual gratification without their consent) - Both of which in the 'real' world are Felonies.

You're comparing them to shoplifting a candy bar - a petty theft crime.

Whether they're a "1" or a "10" is irrelevant. And no, I don't see 'rape' as being extreme. It's a non-consensual violation. People commit suicide over their reputations being ruined on line by other people. I think it's very serious.

What Seghers, or anyone else does with their pictures (face and body) is their choice.

What other people do with them publicly (on line), without consent, is wrong.

It's been explained to you several different ways, by several different people and still you don't seem to get it.

And since my opinion has been misconstrued a couple times, I feel like clarifying.

Yes, I don't mind if people use my photos for whatever. I don't know of anybody who tried to pass off my body as theirs, or my face as theirs, and although I'd feel confused by it (because I don't think my body/face conveys anything that couldn't be done with literally millions of others), I don't think I'd be offended. That doesn't mean I think EVERYBODY shouldn't feel offended by it, or that other people who would thus feel offended has "issues", or anything along those lines. That's simply MY personal feeling towards the issue, and I'm well aware that most other people probably WOULD feel angry/violated if it happened to them.

I take umbrage at the concept one of you introduced that Sexual means bad/nasty.
That word is 50 shades of hot from sensual to provocative to down right pornographic.
Please don't turn it into only a fuck word.

The core issue here is the public internet. The internet is an international and global
public eye. If something is precious and personal to you...keep it so. To share on the
fucking internet is to share WITH the fucking internet. You set it free, where it goes
and what it does is now beyond your control. If it comes back to bite you, you
may warrant empathy but not real fucking sympathy.

Can't compare it to rape or ID theft or other real world shit...its the public internet

Honestly, every man woman and other on here knows that. Now, lets go back to the
good stuff before this thread reeks of CE&P.

i confess to simply not giving a fuck at the moment. went to this group gathering, talked to a few people, listened to what everyone had to say talking about the group topic, once again, kept my mouth shut. when it came time to bounce and everyone went to the diner to have an after convo, i saw that everyone was already headed to the diner after i left the bathroom so i just went on home. i didn't feel like chilling at the diner, looking at food on the menu i wasn't going to eat, i was too shy to say anything to anybody to be honest, don't think anybody was going to say anything to me anyway. it was like 10 something. the bus arrived at 10:55. i didn't feel like waiting for a 11 or 12 o clock bus so good thing i left as early as i did.

however, i still feel sad just as how i was before and could really go for some sleep. NOT before i eat something and wash myself. to be trill with you, i dunno about this whole dating thing. i don't think i'm going to find anybody to date or have the balls to get myself to do it.

i also am actually really starting to dislike new york city right now. new york isn't what it used to be. i'm thinking about moving somewhere else. maybe another part of jersey far away from new york or even upstate new york or just somewhere away from the east coast altogether. living on the east coast is really beginning to annoy me. i can't fuck with here anymore. i rather move down south, to canada or even the west coast.

one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry

not that it's the person you're talking about, but personally, I never understood the Cult of Elvin.

As long as I have been at JUB, I think there has always been at least one person who got the attention of a few other guys and non-stop flirting began. It would take over the forums, in fact. Usually, they are young guys. I think some sought the attention, while others had it thrust upon them. Right now, the hottie-du-jour is Benderboy. Who it will be in 2 months is anyone's guess.
It matters not to me.

yeah, there's many attractive guys on this forum however, when you see their personality on work at the boards, they become unattractive. they do it to themselves. it could be a character flaw or something. it's like you look good BUT your personality ain't all that. just because you're physically attractive or jerk off material doesn't exactly mean that you're hot. i think a guy becomes hot if his personality is hot.

there was a very attractive guy that i met once at my last job. dude really made my eyes wide. so anyways, him and me started talking and he was a COOL dude. when i say cool, i wouldn't mind hanging out with him at the bar to chill out. his personality made him HOT. you know what i'm saying? even another example, there was a guy who i saw yesterday. he was okay looking but his personality got my dick hard. i didn't know what to say to him but hey... he's someone who i'd sleep with or even date even though i'll admit, i'm dumbstruck at how i would connect with him. he's on okcupid though but i'm scared to message him. he might reject me.

one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry

I accepted that others found Elvin a glorious, fascinating, enthralling human being...even though I didn't. I tried connecting with him on a few occasions, and he was always friendly enough, but I never really found much about him to really latch onto. But as someone who tends not to see the appeal of much of the music, movies and TV shows that other people seem to find addicting, I guess that's not surprising. I just left him for those who loved him, and went and found my own favorites.

confession: I always thought Elvin came across as kind of an asshole but of course, I didn't know him well and I'm sure the people who did have a much better impression

back to people using fake pictures, before he was banned, I was pretty well convinced that MoltenRockIII was -- if not an outright sock puppet -- lying about just about all aspects of his life in his posts. there's another regular CE&P'er that I still think that about.

there was someone else... KingdomHeartsBoy or something? who I'm also about 90% convinced was posting fake pictures in the Show Yourself Off thread / Amateur forums.

I actually have MR3's cellphone number and have talked to him over the phone before. I don't anymore. While some stuff was clearly exaggerated, he actually is well off.

Yeah there are a lot of people who lie over the internet and there are a few I could easily point out on here. I have extended an invitation to some to meet up and they have outright refused which only leads me to conclude that they have some shame they don't want people to see. I've posted pics of myself and even my own voice so if people want to think I'm some fake schmuck, their loss/stupidity.

To be fair, the main reason I liked Elvin is that he was a Boston boy. If you are a local Bostonian, you realize that our city is more like a village in terms of community. Just look at the sheer amount of corrupt politicians we elect.

@Lex

Speaking of addicting TV shows, I normally hate "talent" competitions especially when they throw in the horrible human interest stuff, but I totally love The Voice. Never watched the previous seasons but for some reason I like this one.

Elvin was a force of nature you either loved, hated, or was indifferent about, with little grey area between.

For what ever reasons, I believe his personality rode both sides of the fence on almost every aspect:
arrogant/insecure, empathy/indifferent, extroverted/introverted, needy/independent ... You get the idea.

I think deep down, he's a good guy and meant well, but often times he was his own worse enemy.

not that it's the person you're talking about, but personally, I never understood the Cult of Elvin.

never understood it either. he didn't seem like anybody important when he was posting but when he stopped posting, everyone was like "why did elvin go? we miss him. come back". i haven't been in that long anyway to see him post like that.

but on another note, if there's one thing that i think is sort of annoying with some of the younger posters is how they appear to care about showing off how they look too much basically trying to ride off of that shit on the forums. "i look attractive so you must pay attention to me and what i say". must be a late teens/early 20s thing because i see the same type of mentality on other forums around people in the same age range. it seems like the younger generation is very superficial and vain. too much if you ask me. that's a really negative way of thinking if you put your value into how attractive people think you are at least that's what i think.

i actually envy the younger generation though. back when i was in my teens and in my early 20s, the things that were cool at the time was pretty much being a billy bad ass, having the best clothes, having street credibility and all of that. you simply couldn't enjoy being a kid. now these younger people are trying to act like they're older than what they really are when they actually have a chance to be their age and enjoy it. for real, it irks me when i hear a 20 year old guy talking to me about how bad shit is now and how good life was back in 1992. are you serious?

one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry

It's even funnier to me to hear a guy in his mid-20's try to make some profound generational comparison between himself and a 19 year-old.

are you serious?

you may NOT think that there's a generation gap but there is. of course someone born in 1993 isn't going to see the world the same way someone born in 1986 will. the same way someone born in 1979 won't be able to relate to someone born in my age. i actually remember how life was growing up in the 90s. the internet wasn't popping back then. we had sega genesis and super nes. music was different. a lot of things was different back then. it was a way different world back then compared to the last decade. i actually was late with the internet as i first got on it in 2000. i think it's funny for someone born in 1993 telling me what life was back in the 90s when they were the 2000 kids. they can but you can't really take their opinion seriously. for a 90s baby born in 93 to talk about how things was back then is no different than me talking about how life was back in the 80s.

i think you're trying too hard.

one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry

just looked at myself in the mirror and upon observing the ever growing wrinkles that are showing up on my forehead, the spots from all the acne i had as a teen and etc, I'M UGLY AS FUCK!! wow, really ugly as fuck. it makes me sick to my stomach looking at my face but what can i do besides accepting how i look. i do NOT have control over how my face came out to be and that's me, damnit. i was born this way and i'm not going to change my looks for shit. i'm not going to die and it's not the end of the world because i don't think i'm attractive.

one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry

Age? Allowing 18 years per generation, I have been through 3 and 1 half. Reviewing the
changes I (as well as some others here) have seen and lived with, things have sped up,
5 years now makes a big fucking difference. Like the saying goes...Time and tide wait for no man
Raz, you need an attitude tune-up, Johann you need to lighten up Bud. Face it boyz,
every body thinks they had it worse...ask your elders.

Fuji, we can't all be PRETTY BOYS. (thank god or whoever) Been my experience the prettier
the box the inside won;t measure up. A smile from the eyes and lips in person or in your voice
will be remembered long past a pretty boy/girl. Next trip to the mirror side, don't nit pick the
image. A man fixes what he can, lives with what he can't and tries another day.

how long does a pretty boy last on the street...working a house...or in the big house???

I think what you're experiencing is quite normal. I just heard a 27-year-old female co-worker talk about how the young kids of today dress like "skanks". I laughed out loud.

I think 25 is the age in which one starts to first notice the fact that times were changing. I remember when I turned 25, I began to notice that things around me were changing, too.

I think it's a normal part of maturing.

i disagree. when i was 25, i felt the exact opposite. it was like things didn't change and people were still thinking the same except there were new faces and different trends. either way, there's more people just being sheep and following along but not enough leading or individuality. the only thing that i noticed changing is how people are a bit too much into themselves to the point where they're becoming narcissist.

one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry

Johann if this keeps up people will talk
They might even accuse us of having social intercourse.

That said, we so see some things the same. Where we read the paper
they read yahoo/google. Where we thought it was hot shit when custom
calling and push button dials came in, well, some kids now don't know what
a land line or newspaper is.

It started with computers that took up a floor of a building (remember?) now
the phucking cell phone is a computer, texting device, cam corder, clock, a
personal secretary oh... and a cordless phone too..

Sit down, buckle up, the most interesting is yet to come and these damn kids
will have our age people living at least 200 yrs ...that is, if our people don't
blow the whole fucking universe up first.

Don't apologise for long posts on slow days. Sometimes they help people to think.

i actually like the cold weather because it reminds me about reality and how cold the world is. i know i get lost in the clouds at times where i daydream and get caught into these fantasies or my imagination BUT @ the same time, i'm well aware of what's outthere though and about how life has it's ups and downs and there are some things that we don't want to hear or deal with that we have to deal with. sometimes, i don't think the people around me are aware of it though. it's as if they're living in a different world than i am where they think they can't die or they can't be homeless or unemployed or have anything unfortunate happen to them. i pretty much am interested in the truth even as hurtful and ugly as it may seem. that's the reason why i'm here in the first place it's as if they're on another plane that i'm on.

i can acknowledge the fact of who i am, that i'm broke, unemployed, still living with my parents at 26, that i'm gay and etc. some people like to insult me with the truth that i admit about myself BUT what is the point of that when that's my reality. there's other people that say that i like talking about myself, am self centered and etc BUT i'm dealing with my reality. it's my life. i can't talk about your life since i don't live it. i'm trying to make my life better but this is how my life is NOW and i'm learning to deal with what i'm dealing with even if it irks me. i think it's also ironic how the same people that tell me all this shit are the same ones that have a hard time hearing the truth themselves from other people or even admitting it to themselves. that's the last person that i would want to criticize me. nobody's perfect and everybody's human. if you can get over that, then there's no need to act like you're better than everybody else.

one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry

If it get too intense at times, remember
'the sins of the father & as ye sow, so shall ye reap.
Hey old fart, like before us if it wasn't for the older
generation NOT ONE of us would exist today..

@ Fuji,

No problem talking your confused thought out here
streetboy. We all have to do that somewhere and
this is a where. Rant, Rave Laugh and cry...those
are all valid.

Taking things as a personal affront or dissing on the
others here just creates hate and fails to educate
share or entertain. We ALL need to remember that.
------------------
I do believe in go and do...

Some observations I've made about you from this thread, and a couple others (and you can correct me if I'm wrong), I feel you live your life sticking your head in the sand. I'm basing this mainly on your posts here where you caution everyone NOT to EVER put their pictures on line, and one where you said you park at the back end of a parking lot, and about using Linux so you're not hacked.

It seems like you obsessively live your life in fear of what might happen to you, and are basically (in my opinion) not really LIVING. You're hiding from everything, and expect to have something bad happen to you... and if it does, it was somehow deserved because you inadvertently did something 'wrong' and asked for it.

You spend more time trying to avoid the bad things then enjoying the good ones.

Sometimes, bad things happen to good people... without just cause.

YES - I do think people should be safe and cautious in all aspects of life - but I think you carry it a little far into the obsessive and extreme.

JB, Borgie. you live in such dissimilar locales and you environments so colour your viewpoints.

Mr. B, you're up with the Red necks, Tree huggers and a relatively stable population base.

JB you are down 1 state and over one. A bit more cautious, not from the head in the sand at
all. An environment that is highly highly transient, fluid with money based schemers, crooks,
grifters, transients and gambling bug bitten tourists littering the landscape.

My friends, You Two have more of the same core values (the important ones) it's just that
one of you operates on 3DHD and the other 3DBlueRay.

I'm not judging who is right or wrong having lived in both areas (and a few hundred others) I can
totally see both of your viewpoints

@borg, I doubt he is offended, he is an imminently practical man who always wants imput. Now,
we just have to modify his politics...lol

25 is the age when I started to realize how much I generally hate other human beings and being around them. It has only gotten worse from there.

For me, it was 19 when I became an RA. I got knocked down so many rungs on the moral ladder that I just stopped caring about human beings in general. I'm a little better now with individuals but as a society, I still subconsciously feel that many people just use others for their own benefit and that altruism is dead.

i went to my brother asking him to see the new download content in tekken tag 2 in my room. he agreed. i was going to get him to play the game with me and then come out to him while i was playing. he was there for like 10 minutes and then went over to his room. i decided to go over to his room where he was watching that show that charlie sheen was fired from, two and a half men. so he's on his bed watching the tv and on his laptop at the same time. i told him that i had to tell him something real quick. he was like cool. i shut his door and then told him that i told mom and dad already, i'm gay. he was shocked like "really". he thought i was playing a practical joke on him. i was like "it never occurred to you that i was gay" and he was like "nope". i was like how about when i was a kid acting all effeminate and stuff, he was like "i didn't see it". then he said that "it makes sense because all the times they would get me to talk to chicks and stuff. i never would do it or i wouldn't say shit to them". he took it much better than my father and my mother. he said that he'll support me.

i'm thinking about coming out to my friend tomorrow. he'll be an interesting case.

one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry