There are not 2 choices for president. There are 6 candidates. Vote for which best represents you and your beliefs, not who you are told will or should win.

(As a former Obama voter, may I direct my fellow disillusioned Democrats toward Ross Anderson of the Justice party...)

Been there, done that.3 elections for Nader.Go ahead and laugh, but I always vote my conscience.Last time? Obama.McCain? Lord no. Palin? Girlfriend, go back to what you do best- looking purty.

Now? Romney? Sheesh.Ryan? Fark that legitimate rape bullschnitt.

Obama has done some good stuff.But dang, not liberal enough for me. But I have no choice. I'm certainly disillusioned. But the alternative is too much to bear.

...I think my point sort of strolled by you, there.

I think TheMysticS's point was that if one views Obama as not being liberal enough, one has to consider that the possibility of a Romney win would be even worse, so voting for a third-party candidate with no chance of winning would be silly.

Weaver95:heading into the home stretch - polls close in 4 hours. still no evidence of GOP efforts to get out the vote. At this point i'm going to officially call it and say the Republican party abandoned Pennsylvania.

scubamage:bionicjoe: So since the kids are off from school I promised them "Wreck It Ralph" tonight after work.Could be an epic news/thread night though. Do I disappoint them?

Somehow I didn't put it together that the kids being off for election day means going to a movie will interrupt my election day thread coverage.

/I am not a smart man

Dude, Wreck it Ralph is the best thing Disney has made in years. Flipping fantastic movie. PLUS the short that they have in the beginning makes it totally worth the annoying previews.

Without giving the story away at all, let's just say that Pixar's management and story direction has started to bleed its way over into Disney (finally). There are some very mature points in the movie (not mature as in adult and inappropriate, but tough moral dilemmas) that simply aren't the "disney pandering" we've gotten so used to. The room got dusty at points. Plus it has Sonic the Hedgehog AND QBert!

You win my vote.Ralph 2012

shiat will still be on when we get home, and any movie night is guaranteed tang from the wife.We'll probably relax in bed later while naked & make our health insurance choices (open enrollment in these parts.)

Hehe, I figured I'd get some crap for that. I see it as somewhat acceptable, since I'm questioning the premise of the statement "Giuliani was on CNN". In my mind, the idea that someone thought "you know who could give us some real insight into this election? Rudy! He'll have a lot of constructive commentary, and will really be a valuable resource." Thus, I'm questioning the reality of the premise, as I refuse to believe that actually occurred.

Also, I like saying that phrase.

You're literally worse than Hitler ;)

Well, I am a terrible artist, so for all intensive purposesporpoises, that's an apt comparison.

Hehe, I figured I'd get some crap for that. I see it as somewhat acceptable, since I'm questioning the premise of the statement "Giuliani was on CNN". In my mind, the idea that someone thought "you know who could give us some real insight into this election? Rudy! He'll have a lot of constructive commentary, and will really be a valuable resource." Thus, I'm questioning the reality of the premise, as I refuse to believe that actually occurred.

Also, I like saying that phrase.

You're literally worse than Hitler ;)

Well, I am a terrible artist, so for all intensive purposesporpoises, that's an apt comparison.

Can someone explain to me why people who don't think that their vote will count in terms of the EV decide to vote 3rd party as a protest agains the party winning their state? Have they forgotten that the popular vote is a thing? I mean it seems to me that you'd want your guy to win the popular vote AND the EV - if only to shut the other side up. For years, I had to listen to friends moan about Bush's lack of popular vote and how Gore was the people's choice.

For the love of whatever you love - Don't Let This Happen Again.

And I'm not just saying this to get out of donating if there is an EV/Popular vote split (which I think there will be for the above reason).

Weaver95:heading into the home stretch - polls close in 4 hours. still no evidence of GOP efforts to get out the vote. At this point i'm going to officially call it and say the Republican party abandoned Pennsylvania.

It was always just a money sink designed to waste GOP resources. Pennsylvania has been blue all along, but the Democrats let it slip that they might be vulnerable, so the GOP would divert some resources from Ohio.

I posted a pic in the first thread of my daughter, holding up her "I Voted" sticker.

I KNOW that posting of actual children in Fark threads can be...dangerous. But, I have been here ten years, and felt pretty safe. I don't know why it caught on, but she has now been referenced quite a bit, and photoshopped. Harmless fun, because I know she has higher standards than the likes of you Farkers.

imontheinternet:So, bad doesn't mean undesirable, and the same doesn't mean equal? Just stop, man. You're getting beaten like Romney in a swing state, and I'm starting to feel bad for you.

Again, cancer is undesirable. Herpes is undesirable. Both are undesirable. They are the same in that way. Is one more undesirable than the other? You betcha. Your pathetic attempt to salvage your amateurish attempts noted.

What I find frustrating through this whole ordeal is that the media itself tends to lean in one direction or the other. I kind of wish that there would be a truly unbiased source to obtain information from. I can see political maps from politico and 538 say one thing, end then there is the maps from the examiner and others that say another. Does anyone have an unbiased source that they are using to track the election?

2008 - Waited 1:45 to vote. School was hosting 4 precincts and my area of town has the largest subdivisions, most with 1/4 acre lots. Plenty of people.2010 - Broke up the precincts some & moved mine plus one other to a different polling place. 1 minute wait & I saved America by zip-typing the flag to a post. Kept falling over.

2012 - Waited 1 hour, same place as 2010. I don't understand why, but the other precinct hosted there never has a line. Maybe 1 voter for every 50 in mine.

KY elections don't match up with national or local votes every time. So this political crap never really ends here. There's always yard signs out for something & a few crappy commercials. Farking governor, mayor, or dogcatcher election probably coming soon.

Small ballot this year. One cool KY Constitutional amendment to vote on. Trying to make it a right that hunting and fishing be used for conservation and wildlife management. I dig that even though I don't hunt & haven't fished in years.

I posted a pic in the first thread of my daughter, holding up her "I Voted" sticker.

I KNOW that posting of actual children in Fark threads can be...dangerous. But, I have been here ten years, and felt pretty safe. I don't know why it caught on, but she has now been referenced quite a bit, and photoshopped. Harmless fun, because I know she has higher standards than the likes of you Farkers.

I posted a pic in the first thread of my daughter, holding up her "I Voted" sticker.

I KNOW that posting of actual children in Fark threads can be...dangerous. But, I have been here ten years, and felt pretty safe. I don't know why it caught on, but she has now been referenced quite a bit, and photoshopped. Harmless fun, because I know she has higher standards than the likes of you Farkers.

hehe good man. Cute girl. Good on you to raise her to be civic minded. I already white knighted her so put in a good word, woulda?

Good point other than:AbortionTaxesBusiness regulationEnvironmentEducationGay rightsForeign PolicyCivil libertiesSocial ProgramsWorkers rightsMilitary SpendingEnergy PolicyAnd some other things they are EXACTLY the same.

/you're an idiot.

THIS. The "there is no difference between them" or the modified "i still dislike them both equally" arguments are plain silly.

Yes, they give you plenty of inconsequential crap to fight over, while they serve Israel, China and your corporate masters.

So you believe all those issues I mention are "inconsequential"

You don't care any about any of those issues at all and don't think they affect Americans?

What if one is more or less perfectly split? I mean, taking the R side on half, and the D side on the other half? Or would those people just be subjects of mockery? Half a herp or half a derp?

Weaver95:heading into the home stretch - polls close in 4 hours. still no evidence of GOP efforts to get out the vote. At this point i'm going to officially call it and say the Republican party abandoned Pennsylvania.

They were too busy getting court orders to be allowed at the polling stations to work on GOTV efforts.

fruitloop:Any suggestions on whose coverage to watch tonight? I have a feeling all of them will suck, just trying to find whose will suck less.

Probably avoid the usual channels: Fox news, CNN and MSNBC, but msnbc may ne ok. Fn is biased as all hell and cnn just sucks.

In 2008, I was jumping around the channels for coverage. Once it was made official and reported that obama won, I was shocked to see I landed on fox news when they announced it. I was even more shocked that fn didn't drop all electional coverage that moment and switch to shark week footage instead.

skullkrusher:it's not semantics to point out the distinction between thinking both sides are equally bad and explaining that you find neither side desirable. You'd know that if you didn't intentionally ignore the first part of that post. It's been a while since I've watched you pretend not to understand something simple. Can't wait!

True. But that's not what you said:

skullkrusher:We're not saying they're "the same" except in how we find them both undesirable.

Either you meant that they are equally undesirable or you once again can't communicate your actual opinion.