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<p>The Bioware GM responded to an incredibly nasty tweet sent to him with a &quot;Whatever, fucking moron.&quot;</p>
<p>I&#39;d say that&#39;s a fair response to the unprovoked obscenities @copilotdork had been sending his and Hepler&#39;s way.</p>
<p><em>&quot;That&#39;s the topic links to the person Bioware&#39;s GM insulted. In turn the person had fans dig up photos of his kids and threaten to molest them.&quot;</em></p>
<p>So, @copilotdork, after being insulted, had fans (of Bioware?) dig up photos of the GM&#39;s kids for them to threaten with molestation?&nbsp; Then why in the hell are you upset with Bioware or Jim Sterling?</p>
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<p>Andrew Eisen</p>
Wed, 21 Mar 2012 00:58:27 +0000Andrew Eisencomment 278494 at http://gamepolitics.comRe: Report: Mass Effect 3 Buyer Files FTC Complainthttp://gamepolitics.com/2012/03/19/report-mass-effect-3-buyer-files-ftc-complaint#comment-278492
<p>@AE</p>
<p>The Hepler Incident is just one of many incidents with Bioware and I am not using that solely as why I am upset with Bioware.</p>
<p>But since you asked about Jim</p>
<p><a href="http://www.destructoid.com/bioware-writer-s-vagina-versus-the-internet-222206.phtml" title="http://www.destructoid.com/bioware-writer-s-vagina-versus-the-internet-222206.phtml">http://www.destructoid.com/bioware-writer-s-vagina-versus-the-internet-2...</a></p>
<p>That&#39;s the topic links to the person Bioware&#39;s GM insulted. In turn the person had fans dig up photos of his kids and threaten to molest them.</p>
<p>http://twitter.com/#!/copilotdork/status/172910048954171392/photo/1</p>
<p>https://twitter.com/#!/copilotdork</p>
<p>I have kids. And when I saw that going on and then to see Jim&#39;s response on his twitter it rubbed me the wrong way. I would recommend GamePolitics follow up with that story and see what happens with the police for that man because something like that should have never happened.</p>
<p>We have friendly arguements. Though I might seem upset one thing I try to do is never take anything said on the internet personal. We all have our opinions but when something happens to a normal joe because Bioware&#39;s GM decided to comment on someone, yeah. Those guys going after his kids and digging up photos are taking it way to far.</p>
Wed, 21 Mar 2012 00:41:35 +0000Neo_DrKefkacomment 278492 at http://gamepolitics.comRe: Report: Mass Effect 3 Buyer Files FTC Complainthttp://gamepolitics.com/2012/03/19/report-mass-effect-3-buyer-files-ftc-complaint#comment-278486
<p><em>&quot;Remember the Hepler Incident she was allowed to insult you but when people started insulting her that was a no no and all blog owner agree though customers might not.&quot;</em></p>
<p>No, not all blog owners agree because that is <em>not </em>what happened and shame on you for presenting it as such.</p>
<p>I&#39;m glad you finally dropped the name because I&#39;ve been wondering for weeks what the hell you&#39;ve been on about.&nbsp; No idea what your beef with Jim Sterling was in this case either.</p>
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<p>Andrew Eisen</p>
Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:49:48 +0000Andrew Eisencomment 278486 at http://gamepolitics.comRe: Report: Mass Effect 3 Buyer Files FTC Complainthttp://gamepolitics.com/2012/03/19/report-mass-effect-3-buyer-files-ftc-complaint#comment-278485
<p>Behavior? What? Bad behavior? If a car lot says it has 9,000 cars they would be breaking the law by false advertising when they only have 1,000 cars. Which reminds me of an old Kurt Russell movie.</p>
<p>Bioware has promised many things and told us what will be in the game leading us to believe one thing. Problem in the gaming community is we believe we the average customer has no rights. Well the forum admin or blog admin of a various game site might express his or her thoughts anyone else giving their own are expected to agree or not to have a completely different view.</p>
<p>Let&#39;s also use the Bioware Forums for example. The staff treat everyone there like living crap (Stanley Woo) and they do not care about the customer and wouldn&#39;t mind losing you because they expect people will keep giving them money. So pretty much you have a store that has become abuive towards their customers their own General Manager told people to, &quot;Fuck off&quot; and their staff members have all become forum Nazis. Remember the Hepler Incident she was allowed to insult you but when people started insulting her that was a no no and all blog owner agree though customers might not.</p>
<p>People need to stand up for there rights and if these companies are violating the law they need to be held accountable.</p>
Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:22:30 +0000Neo_DrKefkacomment 278485 at http://gamepolitics.comRe: Report: Mass Effect 3 Buyer Files FTC Complainthttp://gamepolitics.com/2012/03/19/report-mass-effect-3-buyer-files-ftc-complaint#comment-278464
<p>That is highly subjective, and more importantly not a legal requirement.</p>
Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:08:21 +0000kurifucomment 278464 at http://gamepolitics.comRe: Report: Mass Effect 3 Buyer Files FTC Complainthttp://gamepolitics.com/2012/03/19/report-mass-effect-3-buyer-files-ftc-complaint#comment-278463
<p>Experiments are best saved for new IPs, not award winning ones where the players may have certain expectations.</p>
<p>If it&#39;s not broken, don&#39;t fiddle with it.</p>
Mon, 19 Mar 2012 23:25:18 +0000hellfire7885comment 278463 at http://gamepolitics.comRe: Report: Mass Effect 3 Buyer Files FTC Complainthttp://gamepolitics.com/2012/03/19/report-mass-effect-3-buyer-files-ftc-complaint#comment-278458
<p>The developers didn&#39;t make any &quot;promises&quot;, they simply expressed things they were experimenting with. Ideas they wanted to do, philosophies they believed in at the time.</p>
<p>I hate the ending as much as the next guy but that doesn&#39;t mean I&#39;m going to sue them. Sure, they didn&#39;t do much of what they say they would, but how many companies have done exactly what they said they would?</p>
<p>Things change during development of <em>any </em>idea. You&#39;re going to have to learn to accept that, since it happens most everyday in regular life.</p>
Mon, 19 Mar 2012 21:29:10 +0000Mr.Tastixcomment 278458 at http://gamepolitics.comRe: Report: Mass Effect 3 Buyer Files FTC Complainthttp://gamepolitics.com/2012/03/19/report-mass-effect-3-buyer-files-ftc-complaint#comment-278457
<p>Hey, check it out guys! Another prick complaining about the so-called &quot;self-entitlement&quot; of gamers!</p>
<p>Self-entitlement literally means someone thinks that what they want is what they deserve, regardless of how reasonable or logical that &quot;fairness&quot; actually is.</p>
<p>Some gamers express this, most of us do not. The large majority of people &quot;bitching&quot;, as you eloquently put it, are expressing their right as consumers and as humans (heard of human rights? It applies here) to complain. We paid good money for Mass Effect 3 and we were disappointed. How are developers and publishers supposed to know our about disapproval if we don&#39;t tell them? They&#39;d never improve that way.</p>
<p>The attacks on the writer and on the homosexual content in the game, I agree, were completely unwarranted, but this is a case of the vocal minority. Not everyone had a problem with either of these things. Yes, whilst I believe the writer is killing BioWare&#39;s games, I&#39;m not going to make attack her a<em>d </em><em>hominem</em>​. I have nothing wrong with her as a person, but she can&#39;t write to save her life.</p>
<p>Aside from this, do you honestly know much of a hypocritical douche you look? You&#39;re <em>bitching </em>about people <em>bitching</em>. Don&#39;t talk shit about gamers when you&#39;re doing the same damn thing, it just makes you look like an asshole.</p>
Mon, 19 Mar 2012 21:25:49 +0000Mr.Tastixcomment 278457 at http://gamepolitics.comRe: Report: Mass Effect 3 Buyer Files FTC Complainthttp://gamepolitics.com/2012/03/19/report-mass-effect-3-buyer-files-ftc-complaint#comment-278451
<p>&quot;The work belongs to the writers,&quot;</p>
<p>Except movies change their endings all the time, and certainly against the writers intent, based on fan feedback from pre-release screenings. In this case, fans have poured 100&#39;s of hours into the game and spent a minimum of $180 on that experience. If fans in attendance of a free screening can make a change, why can&#39;t other consumers who paid for something?</p>
<p>Going to the FTC is stupid, but to write off consumer efforts is equally so.</p>
Mon, 19 Mar 2012 20:06:36 +0000Gamereviewgodcomment 278451 at http://gamepolitics.comRe: Report: Mass Effect 3 Buyer Files FTC Complainthttp://gamepolitics.com/2012/03/19/report-mass-effect-3-buyer-files-ftc-complaint#comment-278444
"Good advertising"? It's a blatant lie. -False- advertising was probably the word you're looking for.
I wonder if you would say the same thing if you'd have read Lord of the Rings (which took countles hours of course) and in the end that gollum guy turns out to be gandalfs mother and sauron and everyone else just board the enterprise to fly to new adventures.
That's fine, isn't it? Because that's what the writer wrote so there's no possible reason to complain, right?
Or even better, he just stopped writing at some point. "And so Ganalfs went to... THE END". Or just before the final epic battle god appears and tells everyone to behave. All say "Ok, Boss!", end of book.
Would be totally fine, don't you agree? Doesn't matter that you spend 500 hours reading the books in anticipation of an promised epic ending. Don't forget the $200 you spent and that the story was the major reason to read the books in the first place.
Because that's almost what those Mass Effect 3 "endings". Plus it tore like at least 5 plot holes in the story right during the last few minutes.
That still doesn't justify the lies of EA.Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:54:32 +0000tacccomment 278444 at http://gamepolitics.com