British Politics thread

In Italy, this resurgent nationalism apparently also includes the need for a register of the Roma.Plus ça change...

Perilagu KhanChief Executive

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Subject: Re: British Politics thread Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:04 am

Given Gypsies' pronounced itinerant tendencies, this makes perfect sense. Nations have every right to know who is living within their borders.

SaloméChief Executive

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Subject: Re: British Politics thread Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:22 pm

The historical connotations are so grim that I am surprised any politician would choose to associate himself or herself with such an endeavor. Around a quarter of a million so called Roma were killed during the Holocaust.

Perilagu KhanChief Executive

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Subject: Re: British Politics thread Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:49 am

Resemblance is not recapitulation.

SaloméChief Executive

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Subject: Re: British Politics thread Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:37 am

Perhaps, but it's not helped by Matteo Salvini's rhetoric.

Perilagu KhanChief Executive

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Subject: Re: British Politics thread Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:35 am

Examples?

SaloméChief Executive

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Subject: Re: British Politics thread Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:51 pm

Quote :

One of the party’s 2018 campaign slogans was “Stop the Invasion,” which was accompanied by promises of border walls, sea patrols, and refusals to aid migrant boats in distress. Prior to and during the campaign, party leader Matteo Salvini also called for mass deportations and promised that if successful, his party would expel 500,000 migrants during its first year leading the government.

“Italy needs a mass cleaning,” he said in February 2017. “Street by street, neighborhood by neighborhood and by strong methods if necessary, because there are entire parts of Italy that are out of control.”

Make of that what you will.

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Subject: Re: British Politics thread Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:10 pm

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Perilagu KhanChief Executive

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Subject: Re: British Politics thread Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:44 am

Salomé wrote:

Quote :

One of the party’s 2018 campaign slogans was “Stop the Invasion,” which was accompanied by promises of border walls, sea patrols, and refusals to aid migrant boats in distress. Prior to and during the campaign, party leader Matteo Salvini also called for mass deportations and promised that if successful, his party would expel 500,000 migrants during its first year leading the government.

“Italy needs a mass cleaning,” he said in February 2017. “Street by street, neighborhood by neighborhood and by strong methods if necessary, because there are entire parts of Italy that are out of control.”

Make of that what you will.

I don't have a problem with this.

SaloméChief Executive

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Subject: Re: British Politics thread Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:54 am

Erica Ambler wrote:

I'm in favour of all unskilled economic migrants (as opposed to refugees) being distributed between Belgium and Germany.

Dear me. You are free to disagree of course, but I find any political party which suggests deporting a little under 1% of the population in their first year in power extreme.Your mileage may vary, of course.

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Subject: Re: British Politics thread Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:03 am

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SaloméChief Executive

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Subject: Re: British Politics thread Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:21 am

Coincidentally, Matteo Salvini was in the news today for more charming behavior. He threatened to take away a journalist's police protection (which is necessary because his work has made him a target for the mafia) because said journalist is also critical towards the government Matteo Salvini is a part of himself.

I guess freedom of expression is the first thing to go every time around?

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Subject: Re: British Politics thread Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:59 am

Salomé wrote:

Coincidentally, Matteo Salvini was in the news today for more charming behavior. He threatened to take away a journalist's police protection (which is necessary because his work has made him a target for the mafia) because said journalist is also critical towards the government Matteo Salvini is a part of himself.