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Well, it turned out to be as enjoyable as any V/N could get, but seriously, this thing just drowns in it's plot holes. The worst was probably Kyousuke "transforming" into Maou while kanon's taking a shower. There had to be a better way to execute the Maou-kyousuke-kyouhei combination paradox.

Also what I disliked was kyousuke's uselessness beyond being the Yakuza's control tower for Haru. They should have given him a personality, and the scene where he finally gains vision was just way too funny to be dramatic.

And the last scene, I wished they'd shown Haru, it was very dramatic and tear jerking and all but I really, really wanted to actually see her.

If anyone's here to see if this game's of any worth to play, hurry up and get it, it definitely is. Just don't play through any of the sub-routes, there's some mixed thoughts on it but everyone agrees that it pales in comparison to the main plot, so you may as well just play that and use the time you could be playing the sub routes instead for playing a entirely different game.

The protagonist wasn't as sweet as the one in Sharin no Kuni Himawari no Shoujo, but that's OK, he was still plenty good.

Spoiler for About Maou:

Admitantly, I was completely thrown off by the whole Maou thing, I knew the game was trying to imply that Kyousuke was Maou, but that it just couldn't be true. I had an inclination the whole time that he had something along the lines of a twin brother or something. I shouldn't of doubted those suspicions .

I can't say that I was satisfied though with Maou's parting last words. Perhaps I was expecting a more emotional moment from him like his faking on the phone to Kyousuke after trying to escape at the end. I suppose though that this is what makes him so fearsome. He never got bested by our main characters in the end, everything went according to his plan save his own life.

The scene at the end of Haru's route was also quite a tear jerker. Our main character obviously can't catch a break in life.

In the end though, Kanon's route/chapter for the most part was quite a bore to me, and Shiratori's chapter/route was very funny, but ended up making Kyousuke more like a background character than anything. So I would say the two best routes were Haru in first place, with Tsubaki following afterwards.

At the very least, I think he was happiest in the end of Tsubaki's route.

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Anyhow an interesting question for you all. Is Maou right in saying that their father did nothing wrong and didn't deserve to be locked up. Discuss .

This definitely was one hell of a roller coaster ride. My only gripe with this was that the other routes weren't really that good. But it was all made up for by Haru's route. It was like the whole game was only about Haru and the that rest were just extras. Too bad there wasn't a Yuki route.

Well this VN has one of the most awesome endings I can remember. Basically the epilogue made this game one of my all time favorites.

At the very least, I think he was happiest in the end of Tsubaki's route.

Though I loved Haru's route more and that epilogue made me look up on how much of a man Kyousuke is while shedding manly tears, I do believe that Kyousuke had a better ending in Tsubaki's route... I mean...

Spoiler for End of tsubaki's route:

his mom didn't die and she seemed to have been cured from her mental illness, if I remember correctly, and Kyousuke lived a happy life with Tsubaki, albeit still in debt with Gonzo, but he seemed to be paying it slowly with his current income.

Hmmm, just got to chapter 3 (which I suppose is Kanon's possible route if I chose her because of the evidence of all this talk about sports, and how "Maou" will not target Kanon) I actually like this game, although its very straight-forward with the choices that make it a little simple on what effect they might have.

Before the Opening showed, I had a clear deduction that Kyousuke was "Maou" when he knew about Haru's proclaimed name "Hero" and the fact that she even went with Kyousuke in the (was it a bar or restaurant?) and then decided to use that place for his little chase game with her. But still... That is still up to debate on if this is true or not.

Mostly throughout this game so far, I was able to see the plot twists that this game provides, I don't know if these twists are very easy to spot, or that I'm just very observant, but reading through the text does make things more complicated when I 5% of the time don't have a clear hint out of the sky on what they are talking about. It does make deductions very simple when Haru is on the screen with her intelligence

The plot twists you are talking about are not even "twists", as they were situations that didn't have the pretention of being twists.
The real stuff start with chapter 4 and the last one, although the "biggest twist" is quite debatable.

The plot twists you are talking about are not even "twists", as they were situations that didn't have the pretention of being twists.
The real stuff start with chapter 4 and the last one, although the "biggest twist" is quite debatable.

That is true, due to the straight-forwardness that is currently going on, I don't really see them as a twist. Guess I have to go even further in order to get to where the plots actually make a real "twist"

Maou's grand plan was completely derailed when Kyousuke chose to be with another girl beside Usami, so he needed to revise his plans, and it ended up no longer involving Kyousuke, it was no longer showed if Maou ever executed his plan again or when he executes it again. Though in Kanon's route Maou was made to look like he gave up on his plan because he's in love now, we were assumed he's Maou, but perhaps it was just him playing with words and that meant that his plan has been derailed because his pawn Kyousuke didn't go the way he expected him to go, and his plan needed revision so he needed to back away from the Souwa(I'm not sure about the name lol) corporation for a while.

this may be a bit off-track but has anyone listened to the 2 Drama CDs? The setting is during the huge time gap in the epilogue. I wonder if there is a third one because the second cd is not conclusive at all

this may be a bit off-track but has anyone listened to the 2 Drama CDs? The setting is during the huge time gap in the epilogue. I wonder if there is a third one because the second cd is not conclusive at all

This was an awesome game. A bit sad at the ending though, if only because

Spoiler for Ending:

Kyousuke ended missing 8 years of his child's development and Kyousuke and Haru seemed so lovestruck before Maou came. Plus, just the fact that the child wants to show herself off to Kyousuke instead of being scared or nervous probably means she feels familiar with him, which probably means Haru's been spending A LOT of time telling her stories about Kyousuke.