Iron-Age Iranians are close to modern-day Iranians, and Neolithic Iranians were close Sardinians

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Nobody claimed that the Achaemenids and Sassanids were European. But what we do know for a fact is that the Proto-Indo-Iranians, who are chiefly attributed to the Sintashta and Andronovo cultures, were genetically European. They imposed a superstrate on the would-be Iranians residing around the Iranian Plateau and left a very small genetic imprint on a numerically superior population. What they did leave at large, though, was a different language and culture.

This is factually false. The proto-indo-europeans were not European at all genetically. They were mainly ANE derived and would have been closer to ancient west asians and south asians. They also would not have resembled modern europeans.

This is factually false. The proto-indo-europeans were not European at all genetically. They were mainly ANE derived and would have been closer to ancient west asians and south asians. They also would not have resembled modern europeans.

The proto-Indo-Europeans weren't genetically European by modern European standards. However, they did live within the borders of Europe, and while a big chunk of their ancestry came from Siberia, it's not like the Siberian part of their ancestry was proto-Chinese.

But anyway, yeah, they were genetically a different group than modern Europeans.

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Originally Posted by Alaron

Anatolian Urhemait supporters are mostly butthurt Meds.

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Originally Posted by drgs

Poland is a misunderstanding. It is a country which lies on the frontier between western and slavic world, and which combines elements of both.
In fact, they are not even the Europeans in strict sense, meaning European as in bearing the responsibility and understanding of European interests. Poland has always been an subordinate country, on one side sucking German dick, on the other side -- Russian one, some kind of "novice" europeans, who are full of inferiority complexes, hysteria and obsessity neuroses. This is also true for all Baltic countries

The proto-Indo-Europeans weren't genetically European by modern European standards. However, they did live within the borders of Europe, and while a big chunk of their ancestry came from Siberia, it's not like the Siberian part of their ancestry was proto-Chinese.

But anyway, yeah, they were genetically a different group than modern Europeans.

This isnt technically true either for several reasons. Most scientists are under the agreement that the proto-indo-europeans came from the caucasus, and some genetic tests suggest that the southern admixture in yamnaya and other steppe groups came from further south in the form of the progress_neolithic component. This was paternal admixture from the south and not bride exchange like that lunatic polako tries to claim.

So equating them in anyway with europeans is simply not true, they were also significantly darker than modern europeans. If they lived today nobody would consider them white.

This is factually false. The proto-indo-europeans were not European at all genetically. They were mainly ANE derived and would have been closer to ancient west asians and south asians. They also would not have resembled modern europeans.

Sintashta, and Andronovo were basically identical to northern Europeans. They also had a lot of blond hair and light eyes. Yamnaya were closest genetically to Russians and Balts.

The idea that these groups weren’t european in any way is so utterly delusional it’s mind boggling.

Sintashta, and Andronovo were basically identical to northern Europeans. They also had a lot of blond hair and light eyes. Yamnaya were closest genetically to Russians and Balts.

The idea that these groups weren’t european in any way is so utterly delusional it’s mind boggling.

No, first of all Sinthashta and Andromovo are not ancestral to North Indians as they carry a different R1a. They are also not identical to northern europeans at all since they had significant east eurasian admixture. Finally its not even proven that Sintashta or Andronovo spoke indo-european languages, and even if they did, its likely they got it from Yamnaya along with their paternal haplogroups. Yamnaya was not close ro russians either and they were dark. They would not have resembled any modern european group.

The reason why later steppe groups like sintastha has light skin and light eyes and hair is due ot their precursors picking up european women in eastern europe and mixing with them, The original stepp groups were not european at all and they did not look like europeans.