Only two sides to an issue I can live with. After all, when it comes down to whether or not to vote on a bill, a congressman or senator can only choose between 'aye' and 'not aye'.

The thing that's really poisonous to our current system is all the people who think there are only two sides to every issue taken all together. That if you deviate from the party line by one single iota, you are literally Hitler and need to be primaried by someone who is more rigidly conformist.

Karac:Because People in power are Stupid: I'm sick of this false dichotomy. There are more than two sides to every issue.

Only two sides to an issue I can live with. After all, when it comes down to whether or not to vote on a bill, a congressman or senator can only choose between 'aye' and 'not aye'.

The thing that's really poisonous to our current system is all the people who think there are only two sides to every issue taken all together. That if you deviate from the party line by one single iota, you are literally Hitler and need to be primaried by someone who is more rigidly conformist.

catmandu:Those lists show just how divided and goofy Wisconsin is: Senator Baldwin is tied for 5th most liberal and Senator Johnson is 9th most conservative.

I moved to WI from MN. WI currently makes my home state (home to Michelle Bachmann) look sane by comparison. Minnesota and WI get compared all the time. WI has a lower "total" tax burden, yes. Lower sales tax, low state income tax, and lower fees for many services. HOWEVER Minnesota consistently has a better quality of life, more job prospects, better economy, and better education than WI. You get what you pay for.

Back when I could still tolerate listening to Rush (a little over a decade ago), I remember him saying in one sentence how liberals substituted government for their religion. A few minutes later, he was complaining that the only thing worse than a liberal was a moderate, because moderates obviously didn't have core beliefs and would support policies depending on what was popular or convenient.

Yeah, the crux of the echo chamber claimed that it was liberals who saw government as their religion, but then said centrism was the same as apostasy.

And people wonder why we can't get anything done in this country. The ideological-purity-at-any-cost mentality has ruined the practice of politicking.

lilbjorn:The 15 most liberal representatives. AKA 15 congresspeople who are never given air time by the "liberal" media.

Well they can't put them on the Sunday news shows. President John McCain has to be given air time every week, and then they balance that with a moderate from the other side like Rand Paul or Reince Preibus.

A Cave Geek:catmandu: Those lists show just how divided and goofy Wisconsin is: Senator Baldwin is tied for 5th most liberal and Senator Johnson is 9th most conservative.

I moved to WI from MN. WI currently makes my home state (home to Michelle Bachmann) look sane by comparison. Minnesota and WI get compared all the time. WI has a lower "total" tax burden, yes. Lower sales tax, low state income tax, and lower fees for many services. HOWEVER Minnesota consistently has a better quality of life, more job prospects, better economy, and better education than WI. You get what you pay for.