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Re: PTI on allen iverson and the pacers

Re: PTI on allen iverson and the pacers

Now that i have been thinking about it more, it does sound like a good lineup w/ Tinsley, Iverson, Jackson, Oneal, and Foster (what hicks said). The defense would still be good and the offense would improve greatly if Iverson would play more of a team game, which I think he could and would do with a good team to pass to.
What would we have to give up to get him in a trade?

Re: PTI on allen iverson and the pacers

No way AI is coming to Indiana. No way.

Iverson doesn't seem to fit a type of player Bird would want. Atleast if you ask me.

Don't get me wrong, I love watching AI because he gives it his all and I don't think that he would be a bigger problem than Artest has been [if reports are true about Artest] but AI doesn't fit our system.

AI has to be the star, he wouldn't be.

If we trade Ron it better be for Peja, or a all-star center, or a better point guard, if thats possiable.

Peja is really the only SF I can think of i'd want for Ron that we can realisticly get.

We are in a need of a true center. So that would be nice.

I'm growing concerned about Tinsley's future in Indy. I've heard zipo about a extension for him and haven't heard Bird say to much about him. But i'm happy with him, just not sure Bird is.

Doesn't Iverson fit one of the three mentioned? Nope. Is Iverson going to be a Pacer? No.

Create an ignore list. I know it may seem unneighborly. But you're here to talk about the Pacers, not argue with someone who's just looking for an argument. Most of the regular users on here make use (at least occasionally) of the "Ignore" feature. Just go to "Settings" -> "Edit Ignore List" and add the names.

You're preaching to the choir. AI at the point is going to be an adventure. The 76ers this season are going to be fun to watch if you like run and gun basketball. They have some freaks for athletes that can really run the floor with Dalembert,Green,Iverson and Iguodala. Iguodala is going to challenge for the dunk contest he was throwing down some nasty dunks in Vince's charity game a couple of weeks ago. He can really fill the lane on the fastbreak. They also have some good athletes who can pressure the ball on defense.

On the other hand if you like watching good fundamental offense they are going painful to watch at times. AI averaged about 5 turnovers a game last season at the 2. If he plays all year at the point he might smash the record for turnovers in a season.

Re: PTI on allen iverson and the pacers

Iverson would be a terrible fit for the Pacers, and a terrible fit for the city.

As a player, I think he is way too much of a "me" player.

And as a person? Well, let's just say that he is the player that tried to pull the race card after he was called out by the league for flipping off our crowd. He made a claim that was investigated but never substantiated that fans all around the vistitor's bench were yelling racial slurs at him.

I don't have any use for an individual that voices a slur against another person. But by the same tolken, I don't have any use for a member of a minority that falsely accuses another of voicing a slur, either.

Don't want him. No how, no way. We need shooters at the guard position, not scorers that take an abnormally high number of shots to "get their points."

Re: PTI on allen iverson and the pacers

You think Peck and Jay are on suicide watch with Artest? Try swapping him for Iverson.

No kidding. I was looking at those lineups, and thinking to myself, "what's the point? at least Ron is young, and there is chance he might 'get it' someday. AI, on the other hand, has already had his free thirty-day trial of being a good team player, but he gave up on that idea several seasons ago."

Beast makes some interesting points... I'm not a big fan of trading for a player who has insulted the Conseco Fieldhouse faithful. Then again, I wasn't a big fan of trading for a player who had to be restrained by his teammates - and then sent to the lockerroom by his coach - because he wanted to fight with said fans, either.

Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
And life itself, rushing over me
Life itself, the wind in black elms,
Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

Re: PTI on allen iverson and the pacers

my opinion of Ivy changed 180 degrees this year. He played for the TEAM in the Olympics. He didn't whine, biatch, or complain. I cannot say that about any of the other players (Timmy included).
I'm giving him his due and I'll stop carping about him, period.

That said, you don't give up an Artest for a player that plays a position we don't need to improve. IF you give him up, it's for a SHOOTER or a genuine big man.

If you get to thinkin’ you’re a person of some influence, try orderin’ somebody else’s dog around..

Re: PTI on allen iverson and the pacers

Here is his FG percentages last year: FG-38% 3P-28%. Dont give me that hes the only one on his team arguement because Tracy Mcgrady puts up number a lot better than those and he had a worse team than AI did.

Tracy Mcgrady: FG-42% 3P-34% and that also on a worse team. I dont even like Tracy Mcgrady yet I still think he is a lot better than AI. Once agian, AI=overrated