Police stood in awe as gun enthusiasts and collectors waved wads of cash for the guns being held by those standing in line for the buyback program.

People that had arrived to trade in their weapons for $100 or $200 BuyBack gift cards($100 for handguns, shotguns and rifles, and $200 for assault weapons) soon realized that gun collectors were there and paying top dollar for collectible firearms. So, as the line for the chump cards got longer and longer people began to jump ship and head over to the dealers.

John Diaz, Seattles Police Chief, wasn’t pleased with the turn of events stating “I’d prefer they wouldn’t sell them,” but admitted it’s perfectly legal for private individuals to buy and sell guns, FOR NOW. Mayor Mike McGinn said at a news conference the private transactions are a loophole that needs to be closed. “There’s no background checks, and some (guns) could be exchanged on the streets that shouldn’t be in circulation.”

But Schuyler Taylor, a previous gun retailer attending the event in hopes of buying weapons, asked “Why not offer them cash versus a gift card? I’m still taking the guns off the streets; they’re just going in my safe.”

People were reportedly, at one point, jumping out of vehicles whilst sitting in traffic – making on the spot deals with the gun buyers.

But the BuyBack wasn’t a bust. On the contrary – their $80,000 supply of gift cards didn’t last but 2 hours, and by 11:00 am they began attempting to issue IOU’s at which point the entire crowd responded by turning and marching toward the gun dealers, forcing the police officers to pack it up for the day.

On one last note of hilarity, the Seattle Police department claims that they will check the buyback guns to see if any were previously stolen and, if so, try to return them to the rightful owners! LOL. Brilliant!

In 1992, Seattle police collected more than 1,200 guns in a four-day buyback program.

Now the only question is, when will the Seattle Police department stage the next gun show?

Alan, lookin’ a little long in the tooth there babe. That or those experimental chemicals in the 70s took a real toll. Your wait may be disappointingly long given your apparent life expectancy. Word of advice: Don’t buy any green bananas.

It’s not US making the world miserable, Alan. It’s communists like yourself. We’re just trying to mind our OWN business, yet we constantly have to deal with these incessant attacks on our freedom and way of life in spite of having done nothing wrong to anyone.

Never could figure out why all the: Eleetes keep claiming that Great Britan is “Our Friend” Most all of our troubles have come from them… or their Bankster Dooshbag Khazar Sociopaths. Think about it, 1776-1812-1860s & 1913 … All about Da Money !! and The British Banking Cabal had their dirty mass murduring hands in it all. Hey Mate !!! Eat Anmerican Shit! & Fall Over in it !!! Boom!

The dirtiest secret of these “gun buybacks” are that you can turn in your murder weapons, no questions asked, get PAID (or paid again, if you’re a hitman) to commit murder, and then get immunity for murder, as your murder weapon is melted into slag BY THE FUCKING CRIMINAL GOVERNMENT.

I want to buy the gun that the California council woman said could shoot you if it was unloaded… That sounds like a magic gun… maybe she has some bean stock beans too! Seattle is full of idiot liberals like that pansy Mike McGuinn. What a moron! And why is it that such peach loving libtards like Alan are always advocating more violence? I think it is they who are the mentally derranged ones.

Gun “Buy backs” are NOT buy backs,because to buy it back , you have to have sold it in the first place. Let’s call them what they are: 1) an opportunity for a criminal to destroy evidence thanks to a corrupt government, and get paid to boot. 2) a chance for dirty cops to improve their collections (Do you really think the nice guns end up in the slag heap? ) 3) a chance to take advantage of the uninformed, elderly, and poor. (how many collector grade guns are “sold” for $100 gift cards, only to find their way to gun shows to be sold at a huge profit) The citizens of Seattle got it right, free market prevails, and freedom RINGS!

I hate it when people when blame ‘idiot leberals.’ Don’t you know that I’m a leberal and I don’t believe in any gun conrol laws at all. I’m a firm beleiver in the swcond amendment. Check yourself before you wreck yourself. Seriously!

Eric the people you to align yourself with should know your stand. the feinstines the pelosi’s the brady supporters are liberals. Shazam you may not be a liberal, You just like some of the ignorant chicks.

Then you are not a Lib, you belive that government does not have the right to give permissions. Libs think big brother government is the way to go, letting big brother tell you what you can and can not do, what you can and can not think. You have shown yourself to be able to think for yourself, keep it up and do not fall back in the Lib mindset of big brother government and permissions.

If you are a liberal, you are a communist and therefore subject to the totalitarian beliefs of the obamites. You have no right to give opinions unless it’s the opinion given to you by your communist zampolit. You are a subject, not a citizen, which means you are only a slave to the obamite regime.

Well honey, then maybe you aren’t a liberal. Especially if you support the 2nd Amendment. Better start looking at another party because the Democrats sure as hell don’t support the 2nd Amendment. Try looking at the Libertarians.

This is bloody sad your country is on the verge of civil war and these morons are selling their guns to cops and buyers wake the fuck up people..Your government has sold your country to china for their debt and wants you disarmed ….

You took the words right out of my mouth Bill Brown! To many sleep walking idiots and spaced out zombies to busy watching BS on the tv/news to pay attention to the real news and understand that we are under attack from the insiders who are selling off our land, water, oil etc… to communist China and its China who wants us disarmed. These idiots cant be bothered to start looking into the paper work already done by this fascist President, instead call the rest of us nuts! Go figure. This is not a joke!!

As of Dec 2012 US debt was @ 16.4 trillion with 21% of it held offshore with China holding the most @ an estimated 1.16 trillion in US Treasuries. If China dumped that at any time it would collapse our economy in a heartbeat. Your first mistake was to think those of us who believe in a constitutional republic are uninformed. A common mistake that will lead to bad consequences for us all in long run.

alan has it’s zampolit behind it to tell what it allowed to say in public. Remember, liberals, aka progressives, aka communists are not allowed to have personal thoughts. And since alan is a communist, it only qualifies for the pronoun it. He or she pronouns are reserved for humans, not communists.

And if you think that ‘closing the gun show loophole’ (Banning private transfers that we’ve been doing for fucking EVER) will stop or change the way we do business, you’re out of your feeble mind. 300 million privately owned guns, that they have no idea where are… Zero chance of registration, zero chance of forcing transfers. You guys are fucked if you think that will be fixed with a law change.

The article was good for a laugh. Some people will never learn (because they choose not to learn) that the government stands for incompetence. People who worship at the alter of the government are putting their faith in such incompetence. I wonder if this “buy-back” gun show concept will be repeated in other cities. It might be a good way to pick up quality firearms at some very low prices.

I love it when a good plan fails like this for the feds and other gun grabbers. I have been wondering about this. Seems a shame to put all these useful crime deterrent tools to the smelting pot. Glad someone is keeping the best of them alive and in the hands of (hopefully) law abiding citizens. By the way, anyone do a background check on the people buying these? Anyone report the buyback programs as suspicious activity under the “See Something Say Something” plan? I see all sorts of weapons being purchased by a single entity, lines of people with all sorts of weapons all day long under a bridge selling them cheap to one set of people – that might get them to stop out and investigate. ;P

You get a background check to become a member, ( in Washington state a WAC member) in order to buy & sell at gun shows. If your not a member you CANNOT buy or sell anything at gun shows. So keep perpetuating that lie.

That is the the funniest thing I read so far today. That is awesome. Good for them. But too bad for the idiots who sold their guns, you are now defenseless. Now, you will be depending on someone else to help you in a bad situation, IF there is someone else around.

No Shit ! I speak English Cuz My PaPa used a Thompson & satual charges on a bunch of Japs! I thank him and all others like him Daily! This is stricktly an American Thing! The rest of you dirt balls allready rolled over & acsepted your Masters !

I’d say yeah, it’s a fail. They’re always fails. If a gun is in good working order, it’s worth more than $200 at the local pawn shop or at a gun show. If not, it’s not worth what the cops paid for it. I’ll tell you what I’m sure of. The custom 1911 in the header picture? That wasn’t one of the guns they “bought” back for $200 worth of groceries.

i heard about this. looked all over for the crappy $60 .32 auto i have that jammed shut, couldn’t find the box. coulda made money on the thing. so when the law, as it is written does something YOU don’t like, it’s called a “loophole”. yeah, right. i have friends, you have cronies.

People need to drop the liberal/conservative BS. “Liberals” in out political system are communists and “Conservatives” are communists pretending that they have morals and love war. The personal political ideologies of individual US citizens is so diverse one can almost never truely claim to be “liberal” or “conservative”. We are Americans, our government’s actions, regardelss of their claims to affiliation, prove they are communists. Time to clean house.

CONCLUSION OF HARVARD STUDY DONE 2012 WOULD BANNING FIREARMS REDUCE MURDER AND SUICIDE? This Article has reviewed a significant amount of evidence from a wide variety of international sources. Each individual portion of evidence is subject to cavil—at the very least the general objection that the persuasiveness of social scientific evidence cannot remotely approach the persuasiveness of conclusions in the physical sciences. Nevertheless, the burden of proof rests on the proponents of the more guns equal more death and fewer guns equal less death mantra, especially To bear that burden would at the very least require showing that a large number of nations with more guns have more death and that nations that have imposed stringent gun controls have achieved substantial reductions in criminal violence (or suicide). But those correlations are not observed when a large number of nations are compared across the world. http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/12/foghorn/harvard-study-more-guns-do-not-mean-more-crime/

A lot of these guy buy back programs advertise that they take any gun with no questions asked. With $100 gift certificates being offered for handguns, it is probably worth it to fabricate some cheesy zip guns out of galvanized pipe for the barrel and wood for the handle/grip. Anyone think that would work?

I hope the people selling guns got a good deal, $200 for a piece of crap, and that they reinvest in better guns. I feel sorry for the Seattle taxpayers, though–at least the minority that couldn’t stop this idiocy.

This is nothing new – down here several years ago when Houston did one of these moronic gun buybacks, people were going along offering people in line more in cash for collectible guns than the store gift cards the city was offering.

A buddy and I each bought up several junk guns at pawn shops (bent barrels, massively rusted actions, etc.) for an average of $30 each and turned them in to the city to the tune of a $100 grocery gift card for each gun. We wouldn’t have dreamed of turning in functional guns (even cheap ones), but if the city was going to be stupid enough to buy non-functional junk, we felt obligated to take their money.

Ya know, if someone were a real prick, they could TOTALLY take advantage of this and get a free bit of cash for their gun. Find out a few weeks before this will take place, report your gun as stolen, and now if it was registered in your name, it is out of your name. Have a friend go turn the damn thing in, split the money, then when they call you to return your “stolen” firearm, you now have your gun, and some money in your pocket. If you do it solo, all the money goes to you.

Yes, they did something like that in Dallas – a local soup kitchen had a gun buy-back on January 19, and someone set up across the street in a parking lot, and they auctioned guns away ….. the folks who let their guns go through the auction got a helluva lot more than $50 ….(and, yes, every buyer submitted to a background check) …..

You are exactly WRONG. The second amendment is about tyranny. Duh. Why don’t you read it instead of making stupid comments you know nothing about. Or read your constitution Alex. Of course if your not an American then it isn’t your constitution.

The second amendment guarantees that I don’t have to justify to amyone why I own the weapons I own. It very clearly says that “The right of people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”. PERIOD! No mention of a specific type of weapon.

If you insist on demanding that those of us who respect what the 2nd Amendment does be limited to “muskets” because that’s what was available in 1791, how about YOU be limited in your “free speech” under the 1st Amendment to non-electronic means? After all, there were no microphones, telephones, radio, TV, cell phones, etc. available to you then either. And, while you’re at it, no high-speed presses in order to exercise “freedom of the press” either…only hand-operated presses from now on.

Silly city dwellers…the 2nd has nothing to do with hunting or “muskets” or fine china either.

It guarantees me (the little guy) that the gum-mint and rich folks won’t be the only ones able to defend themselves should that become necessary. Against criminals, liberals, and out of control government if you must know.

The founding fathers really did debate heavily the second A. Not over what we could have, why we had them, our how they could be used. The only reason it was debated was the reasoning of its inclusion. All believed it should be unnessicery to include because it was thought that it was foolish to believe that right would ever be debated. We had just taught the redcoats a lesson about tyranny. They knew we must have a defense against the government not a defense for the right to hunt protect and for self defense

Pappadave

January 31, 2013 at 8:03 am

Correct. Thank God they had the good sense to realize that not all governments we might get would have our best interests at heart.

Thanks for showing what a stupid moron who’s never held a musket much less seen one must be like. I’m sure while you are gathering your food with ebt card at a local subway, a musket is the last thing on your mind. Oh, by the way, I own a musket, several actually. However, they would and could be mistakenly classified as assault rifles, you moronic retard.

Muskets and rifles were used to win the Revolutionary war, to protect one’s homestead, one’s family and to hunt.

What exactly do you not understand with this statement? “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

It was specifically listed to ensure that the people were always the sovereign entity of the United States not the Government. We were founded as a Democratic Republic as the Founders knew that a pure democracy was merely mob rule, 51% telling the other 49% what to do. They planned for three separate branches of government at the Federal level, thru which the powers of the Federal Government was distributed. To what end? So not one man or one group of people could run the country without the consent of the people. As yet a further fail safe, they documented certain inalienable rights and went on to add amendments to the Constitution to further document those natural rights. At the acceptance of any government office, that person must pledge allegiance and swear to upheld the Constitution as it is written at the time of swearing.

If you want to protect yourself with a knife or a baseball bat against 3 home invaders with firearms be my guest but do not trample on my right to my life and therefore my right to protect myself in the way I choose.

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.

So True ! The 2nd Amendment doesn’t “Give” you your right to Bear Arms, it tells the Feds: Hands OFF!!! That is what most ALL of the Amendments do, Tell the Fed to Lay Off Jack ! What part of Un-Alienable do you not get ? The big mix up here is the fact that “They” the Dirt Ball Commies, know ! we are opporating under the “Corporate Con-stitution” & wouldn’t Dare! tell you that! My God! the American people might just wake up & give these jokers what they deserve. We should never ever have to deal with scumbags like Nancey P. Or have a Kynean 1/2 Breed Fag for a president!!! He’s NOT your Pres. !!! He’s the Pres. of ::: The Corporation !!! We Don’t Have One ! cept Ron Paul. Grinns. I just want the Gun Grabbers to do the “Door-2-Door” collecting THEMSELVES HA!

The elites in politics, law enforcement and the media loath seeing law abiding citizens behaving themselves,exercising their constitutional rights, having fun making some money and NOT paying taxes…politicians don’t like being shown up by the serfs!

Three things: 1) give the devil his due. Not sure how old Alan is, but he looks like a former wrestler. 2) I don’t know what he means by septic. Causing sepsis? I’ve not seen it used that way before. 3) I’m quite shocked at the vulgarity on this thread. I’ve seen that plenty from huffpo ans squawker and other lib haunts, but I’ve not seen it much from people who have the Constitution on their side. Sorry about That.

Thanks for the clarification. And gun nuts are the reason we don’t have low-level bureaucrats confiscating our stuff, including our freedom without due process, like in some disarmed European countries I could name.

Here’s the funny thing. Tharp42 is a wannabe musician who was in a failed grunge band. Now he bums around Asia and writes Internet comments where he pretty much urinates on everyone. My favorite is when he wrote about what is wrong with SE Asia, and said this: “A lot of non-travelling types don’t realize that much of Southeast Asia is rife with Islam.”

He’s intolerant of gun owners. He’s intolerant of Muslims. And he’s intolerant of pretty much everything else. Just the kind of person we need to take advice from. Do yourself a favor, Tharp… don’t publish your home address. Better still, why don’t you publish some Mohammed cartoons, and then see if you develop a desire to own a gun?

One more thing, you idiot. You actually came up with a meaning for “septics”? They were making fun of a guy who meant to say “skeptics”. And YOU translated that into some Cockney slang, because “tank rhymes with Yank”? That has to be the single most ignorant thing I’ve read in this new year. It might be stupid enough to hold the record all year.

Oh, my! This is now my favorite Tharp42 quote. (Seriously, these are really his own words about himself, he put online.)

“I was a big fat loser in America. I admit it. There’s really no other way to spin the story. I aimed high and fell lower… I came to Korea because pretty much no one else would have me. I was bruised and bleeding–the textbook portrait of a failure–but Korea didn’t seem to care.”

See, folks? These are the kinds of people that are trying to lecture us about owning guns. Losers.

Yup, us gun nuts actually believe that a government can become destructive towards the civil liberties, and lives of its citizens. Even go so far as to start killing them. That has NEVER happened before….. Gun ownership is about hunting right?

The British were defeated with help from mercenaries, French Regulars and organized militias. The continental army did buy and supply weapons for soldiers. Militia were also responsible for their own blankets and fishing line. I heard Obama is coming for my blanket next.

Easily shown to likely be yet another internet hoax, like the ones that claim Obama used a false name to get financial aid, or that Obama taxed my ammo and guns to pay for ER room visits. I just don’t understand why so many people want to live in fear of hoaxes. Did we not learn from the Iraqi wmd hoax? You lost more freedoms under the PATRIOT Act than you have in 4 years of Obama. Here is a tip, look at all of the supposed “threats” that the NRA has told you about Obama in the last 4 years, now look to see how many came true. Not one.

It is truly a shame to think that our president would give an order to fire on citizens of the United states, Maybe then if not to late for people to realize what they have done, One step at a time they will abolish the constitution, I wonder at what point will people realize we are loosing ground

For those city dwellers that missed a proper education in American history:

“A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” – George Washington

Thanks and a wry chuckle to Mayor Mike McGinn for his under-freeway Seattle de facto Gun Show. According to knowledgeable observers, more firearms of dubious pedigree changed hands at this event and more crime-gun laundering was likely accomplished than in a year’s worth all of the WAC-sponsored gun shows, where to buy a gun, you have to be a member—and to be a member, you have to pass the background check. Yet, despite the blatant and ironic hypocrisy of sponsoring an event with even less control and accountability than any of the regularly scheduled commercial gun shows, I honestly doubt even this unconstrained event will be the source of many firearms used in future crimes. According to FBI statistics, less than 1% of guns used in crimes can be connected back to gun shows. Those demanding more stringent background checks are inefficiently trying to solve a problem that simply does not exist. “To register lawful Americans who possess a gun to stop armed criminals, is like registering VIRGINS to stop prostitution.” – anon

“Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws.” ― Plato

They don’t want to stop criminals from getting guns, because that’s an impossible task. They want to disarm law abiding citizens, that’s less dangerous, and makes the law abiding easier to control. Isn’t that what John Dingell(berry) (D) Michigan said, “The people need to be controlled”.

The political climate in Seattle makes the Bay Area and “Hollywierd” seem like fertile recruiting grounds for the KKK. It’s been rumored that the City Council once considered an ordinance that would have allowed the police the ticket any motorist seen making a “right” turn.

I’m sure those officers will be working day and night to get those firearms back to their private owners… Once they have a gun in their evidence lock-up I truly doubt it will ever see the light of day again. After it gathers dust and rust on the shelf for a couple of years, it will be distroyed as “not returnable”.

The one and only “gun show loophole” that I know of, isn’t really connected to gun shows. It is what happened at the Seattle Police “buy back”. To quote the Mayor: “it’s perfectly legal for private individuals to buy and sell guns, FOR NOW. Mayor Mike McGinn said at a news conference the private transactions are a loophole that needs to be closed”. The Politicians know this, the news media know it, but they all act as if there is some special loophole strictly connected to shows. It is part of the con to make non-gun owners angry. I got a kick out of the Police trying to give out IOU’s, what a hoot! I also thought that the Seattle gun dealers who set up shop in the parking lot showed chutzpah, and entrepreneurial know how, as well as showing that we in America still have a sense of humor re: gun confiscation/buybacks.

Gun sales are legal, for NOW, said the mayor. It’s obvious that Fascist mayor couldn’t care less about the Supreme Court decision that recognized the individual right to arms for any legal purpose, including of course self defense. You see, it’s not about what is Constitutional or legal, it’s about what these Fascist’s ORDER YOU TO DO!. The correct response of course is to look them straight in the eye and say “eff you”.

If most gun owners just traded their guns with their neighbors, friends, other peope at gun shows, the fed’s would have a nightmear on their hands trying to track the guns (Kind of like Fast and furious, AKA, let’s cause a 2nd amendment crisis so we can abolish 2nd amendment)….

Alan, why do you argue with the haters? Because you cannot help yourself is not a good excuse. You see, Alan, they will learn their own lessons, on their own time. You’re right, Alan, best to serve the world by sticking to positive news and calling out the filth when I see it. Correct, Alan, but not becoming it at the same time. Good point! -Alan

To which haters are you referring? To those who hate the direction in which our soon-to-be-former-republic-if-we’re-not vigilant is being taken by acolytes of Marx, Cloward/Piven and Soros? Those who hate the fact that there are many who would refuse to execute the guilty for horrendous crimes but insist that the innocent may be slaughtered for the “crime” of being inconvenient? Those who hate having hard-earned money taken from their pockets and “redistributed” to others who have done nothing to earn it, and who will do nothing to improve their own lot in life except vote “D” for more free stuff? Maybe those who hate the fact that much of our media distorts or refuses to cover stories that will reflect badly on a particular political party or upon a protected demographic, truth be damned?

Why sell at 200 bucks when you can get more from a dealer?…besides Obama created this high demand, heck of a lot higher demand than Clinton…another win for Obama…he and the liberals armed USA is less than a couple of months.

A well regulated Militia,being necessary to the security of a free State,the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Most leave out that very important part concerning Militias, security, to misrepresent the intent of the 2nd amendment. The Constitution merely enumerates our Rights,that we are endowed by the creator. Contact your “representatives”, now, let them know you are paying attention…I hope you are!

The Militia part is at one level merely an example, but if read in conjunction with several state constitutions become a hand off to the states to allow them to be the regulatory authority. In my state this clause is:

“Right to keep and bear arms.

A person has the right to keep and bear arms for the defense of self, family, home and state, and for lawful hunting and recreational use.”

Here’s something you should think about, Alan. You have absolutely nothing to fear from the law-abiding citizens who bought guns at this impromptu show. (You probably did have reason to fear many of the former gun owners.) But… if the poop finally does hit the fan in this country? We have all the guns!!! And, unlike your rather bloodthirsty comment might indicate, we won’t be shooting each other.

Oh, and BTW – you have to wonder about a police chief getting so upset about law-abiding citizens exercising their Constitutional rights. I’d say that’s the most revealing thing in this article. The funny thing is, if they actually got “total disarmament” in this country, HE would still be carrying a gun. But why?

If you follow things…Most cops are in favor of concealed carry laws. Police Chiefs are more political (kissing the ass of the mayor or Governor) that you really can’t put much of a value on their position.

The mere idea of the police conducting a gun “buy back” shows that infringing upon the citizen’s right to keep and bear arms is the ultimate goal of the police. Since the police do not trust the citizens with guns, it would be logical for the citizens to no longer trust the police with guns and, perhaps not, in any other way as well.

It is important to use the correct phrases when referring to guns. Guns are FIREARMS in the proper terminology. They are called weapons in Hollywood movies. A target pistol or deer rifle is not designed to be a weapon. It can be…just like a steak knife. Assault weapons are military-grade and not what is being sold to the public. It is not what is being used by on the street. The press incorrectly calls semi-automatic firearms…like deer rifles and even a farmer’s pump shotgun as an assault weapon. Regardless of where you stand on firearms it is very important to actually know what you are talking about. It is better to know what is true than to simply be right…in your own mind.

You’re spinning your wheels Dontownagun. This isn’t a debate on what is or isn’t an assault weapon. This is an attack on all our freedom and liberties. Don’t believe it for a moment that the left’s attack on our liberties will stop after they outlaw guns for law abiding citizens. If we loose this battle, we might as well toss our Constitution in the nearest landfill and march quietly to the nearest Communist reprogramming centers – I mean college campus!

I wonder where that $80k came from? I’m glad I’m not a citizen of Seattle, as I’d be pretty pissed that my tax money was spent so frivolously, as it resulted in yet more police work anyway, trying to reunite guns with their owners.

Oh, Yes… I’m sure those officers will be working day and night to get those firearms back to their private owners… HA HA HA. They may not be destroyed right away but after they gather dust on the evidence lock-up for a couple of years, they will be “surplused” as abandoned property.

Money could have come for Eric Holder’s budget for Fast and Furious. Don’t believe they’ve spend all the funds yet allocated for his project and, after all, what better way to get “trackable” guns back on the street. Came out yesterday that the feds put in a request last summer for 7000 PDWs (personal defense weapons – their definition) as opposed to “assault rifles” (their definition for what civilians have).

When one drugged out person shoots another drugged out person who then spends a month in a hospital and goes on disability when they are discharged, the cost to the public can be enormous. So, while in the micro view a gun buyback is more a waste of money that pays off handringing liberals, in the macro view it may save us a lot of money.

Having said that, the above story proves that government is not an economic animal but a political one. Here government attempted to fix the price of guns that low-information voters and criminals were willing to part with. It turns out, as usual, the price was way too low and the supply was greater than anticipated.

Why not a buy-back gun show? Use a public venue, and set up an auction, where gun buyers (who were vetted) could bid for every gun brought in, and where the police stood by as the bidder of last resort? Maybe guarantee $50 for every gun brought in.

It is in the interest of everyone that every firearm be in the possession of a responsible owner. Sadly, too many politicians who set up gun buybacks are hostile to private ownership (and to firearms themselves) and could not bear to allow any private buyers, no matter how responsible.

What you don’t realize is that criminals DONT sell guns to the police. They might sell them twixt themselves, but NEVER to the police.

The only people selling guns at this stuff are legal gun owners. Most have no clue as to what their weapons are worth. They just sell them non-sensically.

What this nation should really do (is much like the Swiss do, the most well armed nation in the world…and the lowest violent crime rate). When people here turn 18 (or senior year in high school) they should be required to take 6-9 week class in firearms safety. When they reach their 18th birthday, they are issued a government own semi-automatic rifle and pistol and 1000 rounds of ammunition. You can bet your sweet a$$ that the violent crime rate would plummet.

The idea of the “Wild West” is a myth created by writers and the TV/Movie industry to sell a product (Westerns). Certainly there were violent crimes…that have happened all through history, but when you have the serious possibility of being shot for being a rude a##hole, you tend to be far more polite. As for bank robberies in the Wild West, watch a movie call the “Long Riders”. It tells the story of the James/Younger gang’s attempt to rob 2 banks in Northfield MN. There weren’t successful.

Bank robberies only began to thrive in the 20’s and 30’s’ when privately owned firearms became much less prevalent…in 1934 the US government outlawed the private ownership of automatic weapons…without very strick regulations. YOu can still buy automatic weapons, but you have to account for them and they can be required to be accounted for by the FBI.

Baltimore had a gun buy-back a few years ago. When somebody realized they were paying $100 for pellet guns, paint ball guns, and ‘realistic’ toy guns, the local Toys-R-Us, Dollar Store, and sporting good stores got cleaned out.

Well it is safe if you wanna pay protection directly to them. You see, the SPD union hacks are actually afraid to even confront the gangs, so they spend their days hiding out in their ‘patrol’ cars, waiting for the overtime to kick in, and then they harass white drivers by issuing traffic fines they know those white folks will pay. Our Heroes at work. Aren’t we just so proud of those brave fellas?

Go out on Friday or Saturday night and you won’t see a police car anywhere. On your way to church on Sunday morning and you see them everywhere. They know people going to church have jobs and money and won’t shoot at them.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I want to 1st say THANK YOU, each and every one of you, for supporting our Precious 2nd Amendment. WE DID IT! The Petition went Public earlier this morning, and is “Quickly” getting on track to reach the Goal of the needed 100,000 SIGNATURES requiring a Response from the White House. This will again become possible only because of YOU and the Combined Support of Everyone that signed the Petition.For ALL of you that have not Signed the Petition, and wish to do so, I have included the link to the White House dot gov website below.Once again, THANK YOU for standing up for LIBERTY!. .

Ladies and Gentlemen, I want to 1st say THANK YOU, each and every one of you, for supporting our Precious 2nd Amendment. WE DID IT! The Petition went Public earlier this morning, and is “Quickly” getting on track to reach the Goal of the needed 100,000 SIGNATURES requiring a Response from the White House. This will again become possible only because of YOU and the Combined Support of Everyone that signed the Petition.For ALL of you that have not Signed the Petition, and wish to do so, I have included the link to the White House dot gov website below.Once again, THANK YOU for standing up for LIBERTY!. .

It’s not that bad a deal, personally. If you have a piece of crap gun that barely works and isn’t worth it to get fixed, give it to them and get $100 gift card, take it to the bank, cash in the $100 add a couple more hundred, and go buy yourself a decent gun. Just like those guys that were selling those empty LAW rocket tubes that the stupid antis, thought were stingers.

Or you could do what a guy in commyforna did he started selling zip guns police finally told him to stop ( imagine that he brings unregistered homemade guns to the gun buy after he turns a profet they say that he needs to stop bringing guns that cost him $5 to make lol) realy it’s like they think we should be sheeple and don’t expect us to screw em in the end when I see this I think of the gun grabbers holding their ankles cringing for anal impact

What a deal. Way better deal than the pawn shop. You can report your gun stolen. Then bring it in for buy back and get your gift card (no questions asked, right?). Then the police return it too you. What a brilliant use of Seattle’s money.

1. That these police DO NOT just want these firearms out of the hands of those not supposed to have them, they don’t want them in anyone’s hands including law-abiding citizens.

2. The govt. is peed off that these private transactions take place and they make no money on the deal. That’s why they at least want to make money on the transfer. Our safety has little to do with it.

3. If we’re ever stupid enough to let them wipe out cash totally in favor of instruments that leave a paper trail, we’re screwed.

4. The free market system seems to be working well despite all Obama has done to stifle it.

I really don’t like the term “Gun Buy Back”. It implies the gun was the govt’s to begin with and they let us have them. Why was the cars for cash program called “Cash for Clunkers” and not “Cars Buy Back”?

Greenbacks for guns? Moola for magazines? Cash for clips? Bucks for bullets?

So, within the next couple of years, we can expect those who were not retained in our armed forces to verify that? Or will they all suffer “accidents” after their separation or retirement, to silence them?

They may or may not obey the illegal order, but this much is clear: our target must be those GIVING the orders!

This started awhile back with the Marines at 29 Palms. The questionaire was retrieved and brought to light. This is why obama is getting rid of all the Generals and Admirals that wont participate in the killing of Americans. holder and clinton are neck deep in the same program. Mike in Afghanistan

In the 60’s anti-whites forced ALL and ONLY white countries to open their borders to non-white immigration. Then anti-whites forced ALL and ONLY white people to “integrate” or face penalties for being “naziswhowantokill6millionjews.” Now anti-whites are counting down the days for when ALL and ONLY white children become minorities and eventually extinct EVERYWHERE. It’s Genocide. “Anti-racist” is a codeword for anti-white.

You are 100% right and a brave person to even mention this. Why is it that ONLY AMERICA is threatened over who we allow to immigrate here? Japan does not allow other races to immigrate and no one says anything…many other countries have strict immigration laws. Only the U.S. gets hammered to allow anyone who wants to, to immigrate here.When we opened the flood gates to anyone who wanted t be here – this country started down the road to ruin.And NO- these are NOT the same immigrants who “built this country”. Those were people who came here LEGALLY, had a culture similar to ours, learned to speak OUR language and adopt OUR culture and also had a trade. Not like the immigrants of today, whose primary goal is to get on every free program they can. It’s time to put a stop to this destruction and Balkanizing of our country.

I watched the news recently when Berkley had a buy back and when the media showed the guns that had been turned in I cried. I saw historic fire arms, flintlock etc along with orginal 1911s on their way to being distroyed instead of going into a museum somewhere. American history being distroyed by the feel gooder commies. I thought about doing the above if I had the money and now watch the commies step on more personal rights under the 2nd and 3rd admendments.

I watched the news recently when Berkley had a buy back and when the media showed the guns that had been turned in I cried. I saw historic fire arms, flintlock etc along with orginal 1911s on their way to being distroyed instead of going into a museum somewhere. American history being distroyed by the feel gooder commies. I thought about doing the above if I had the money and now watch the commies step on more personal rights under the 2nd and 3rd admendments.

Seriously, you expect people to be idiots. A serious collector knows you buy the best from people who had a collector in the family but don't collect themselves. Estate dealers have known this for years.

I CLOSED my Amazon.com account a couple of weeks back because I read that they SUBSIDIZED this Gun Buy Back to the tune of $30,000. Will never do business with amazon.com again. Will instead do what I should have, order my books, etc., from a local merchant and WAIT (like in the old days) for it to come into the store. Actually, it was a pretty EMPOWERING feeling….

"John Diaz, Seattles Police Chief, wasn’t pleased with the turn of events stating “I’d prefer they wouldn’t sell them,” but admitted it’s perfectly legal for private individuals to buy and sell guns, FOR NOW. Mayor Mike McGinn said at a news conference the private transactions are a loophole that needs to be closed. “There’s no background checks, and some (guns) could be exchanged on the streets that shouldn’t be in circulation.”.

Is he just now worried about this in the capital of men who give weapons to the enemies of this country and want to take away gun rights for its citizens due to a bandwagon following of jackass from all sides of this issue. $200 for a carbine? So the crackhead down the street won't have one but I bet he/she knows what house has one to rob. And futhermore the guns hes worried about being circulated around w/o background checks, what about the weapons they take in and want to keep for themselves. The average cost of a AR15 is NOW $1500.00 bucks, who the hell is stupid enough to take $200 for a $1500.00 rifle?

Are these people STUPID, who in their right mind would let someone like the Government take their guns. It is our RIGHT to have these guns, and just because someone says you have to give them up you do it. That's tells me one thing the people in Washington cant think for themselves, they do as they are told. They think because someone says it its right. Boy are they stupid, grow some balls people, Stand Up For Your Rights, Get a backbone.

Participating in a gun buy back because you believe that the criminals have too many guns is like having yourself castrated because you believe that the neighbors have too many kids. Seriously liberals…its stupid!

They had Licenses. the people buying weapons had Permits to carry Weapons. what is with these "back ground check" tards? they want a Background check for every bullet, every gun , every transaction to Infringe on the Rights of the People. its a Poll Tax. I already did a background check to get my CHL.. why do I need another one to get a damn GUN? HELLO.

This does not surprise me. I live a few miles from Seattle. I refuse to go there any more. mainly because of the police. Ihave lived in major cities all of my life and i have never seen a more Lazy and thug like attitude from police as I have in Seattle. They all have a major attitudes! you can’t ask them anything, they are not there to serve. also they Kill and wound innocent people. See the “woodcarver killed by Seattle Cop. And look at that Man who has to live as a Vegetable because some PUNK cop mistook him for a suspect and slammed him, into a wall with a full force charge. The Poor guy never even saw the Cop coming. He was standing at a full stop against a wall for, god sakes he never was even a part of any crime. And The Chief? Diaz? He is the worst of all. look at the guy listen to him. it don’t take long to get a read on a guy like that. Cops like that, are like any violent criminal you must do what you can, to protect yourself. Arm yourself now! (They are not your friends)

I love gun buy backs get rid of broken junky handguns. I'm waiting for one here so I can get rid of this crappy RG.22 that shaves the bullet when you fire it we can make $50 or $100 put it down on a.44 mag SW629.

Those who sold Pistols for $100 and Assault rifles for $200 are, in all likelihood, not somebody we want with those guns anyway. But hey, great deal for the bad guy. Steal a gun today and sell it to the cops tomorrow. And that with no chance of Reprisal. America, the greatest nation on earth.

Great site you have here but I was wanting to know if you knew of any user discussion forums that cover the same topics discussed in this article? I’d really like to be a part of community where I can get responses from other knowledgeable people that share the same interest. If you have any suggestions, please let me know. Thanks a lot!

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I'm betting that most of those guns were old pieces of crap where 1/2 of them didn't work anyway. I've got an old Raven .25 that I'd love to sell for $100. Those things are dangerous, I've heard lots of stories about people just about blowing their hands off with them. I could apply that $100 to a new Ruger 9mm.

Mayor Mike McGinn said at a news conference the private transactions are a loophole that needs to be closed. “There’s no background checks, and some (guns) could be exchanged on the streets that shouldn’t be in circulation.” And the Mayor know which ones should be in circulation? He's an idiot!!

I watched the news recently when Berkley had a buy back and when the media showed the guns that had been turned in I cried. I saw historic fire arms, flintlock etc along with orginal 1911s on their way to being distroyed instead of going into a museum somewhere. American history being distroyed by the feel gooder commies. I thought about doing the above if I had the money and now watch the commies step on more personal rights under the 2nd and 3rd admendments.

Mayor Mike McGinn said at a news conference the private transactions are a loophole that needs to be closed. “There’s no background checks, and some (guns) could be exchanged on the streets that shouldn’t be in circulation.” And the Mayor know which ones should be in circulation? He’s an idiot!!

Participating in a gun buy back because you believe that the criminals have too many guns is like having yourself castrated because you believe that the neighbors have too many kids. Seriously liberals…its stupid!

Those who sold Pistols for $100 and Assault rifles for $200 are, in all likelihood, not somebody we want with those guns anyway. But hey, great deal for the bad guy. Steal a gun today and sell it to the cops tomorrow. And that with no chance of Reprisal. America, the greatest nation on earth.

Are these people STUPID, who in their right mind would let someone like the Government take their guns. It is our RIGHT to have these guns, and just because someone says you have to give them up you do it. That’s tells me one thing the people in Washington cant think for themselves, they do as they are told. They think because someone says it its right. Boy are they stupid, grow some balls people, Stand Up For Your Rights, Get a backbone.

I love gun buy backs get rid of broken junky handguns. I’m waiting for one here so I can get rid of this crappy RG.22 that shaves the bullet when you fire it we can make $50 or $100 put it down on a.44 mag SW629.

Seriously, you expect people to be idiots. A serious collector knows you buy the best from people who had a collector in the family but don’t collect themselves. Estate dealers have known this for years.

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