Lovie knows McCown better than anyone on this site. Which tells me that McCown is going to be the starter no matter what. Unless he sees the same McCown ( long vet career) that he cut for Jason Campbell while in Chicago in training camp this summer for the Bucs. Which IS still a possibility. It is possible. I HOPE that he is the McCown that played last season, but that’s a different team and coach, the whole 9 yards. Lots of hope for me, when it comes to McCown, but no expectations what so ever.

]]>By: Buc1987http://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/06/more-light-shone-on-bucs-offense/#comment-3408000
Thu, 05 Jun 2014 03:31:16 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=114261#comment-3408000Andrew1 lol..there’s no opposite what so ever here. The way I see it the best man wins the job. Especially because of McCown’s past and not what he did last season.

I’ll never say before September that Glennon is better than McCown. Not even in pre-season. You won’t see me type it. I think as far as what Glennon was dealing with last season and as far as what McCown has done over the years, that BOTH of them are a gamble. BUT you’re confident in McCown. I’m confident in Lovie. If Lovie says McCown is the starter week 1 than it’s all in for me. Like I said I trust Lovie. Okay maybe put at, I trust Lovie more than McCown right now. Same goes for Glennon too. Like ether said I’m weird.lol

Bottom line : I’m MGM because Lovie says he’s the future. Schiano did not say that. Lovie Smith did. No Lovie doesn’t know QB’s. That’s not what I mean. It takes me back to. I trust Lovie Smith to do what’s right for our team and his. “Mike Glennon is the future” – Lovie Smith.

Well you have to believe that if he was any worse than Glennon last season they would have just stuck with Glennon, or even had Glennon starting and brought in McCown as a backup. That sounds reasonable, right?

Its funny to see 2 ex-freeminates on opposite ends of this QB debate lol.

]]>By: Buc1987http://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/06/more-light-shone-on-bucs-offense/#comment-3407996
Thu, 05 Jun 2014 03:11:06 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=114261#comment-3407996“You had everyone take a poll to see who was on board with you.”

LOL the things you do when you’re drunk and tired of all the Freeman bashing. I just wanted to know if I wasn’t the only one actually. If I had many more that saw what I saw then the other side. That and tequila.

Your right I am a weird dude and that’s how I like it. lol

One thing about me that people don’t really see on JBF is that I always look at 2 sides to every coin. I’m sure it may seem that I’m very opinionated most of the time, but that’s not my usual demeanor.

Look I trust in Lovie right now to do what’s right for our team. He’s a proven winner and Dungy disciple. So I trust him.

]]>By: Buc1987http://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/06/more-light-shone-on-bucs-offense/#comment-3407992
Thu, 05 Jun 2014 02:54:53 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=114261#comment-3407992buccinstopit …thanks for the “perhaps”. I’m going to use it quite often from now on, because all of these comments on JBF are our own speculation.
]]>By: Andrew 1http://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/06/more-light-shone-on-bucs-offense/#comment-3407991
Thu, 05 Jun 2014 02:54:18 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=114261#comment-3407991@ Buc1987

just kidding around, I’m sure you know that though. Now, when you say “If McCown had not had the season he had with the Bears last year how excited would you be about him being the starter this year?”, You have to also realize that if he would have complete stunk last year, chances are Lovie would have looked somewhere else for a QB, so that question is pretty much moot. I believe his play last season exemplified his turning point as a QB.
He’s going to have a good season.

]]>By: Buc1987http://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/06/more-light-shone-on-bucs-offense/#comment-3407990
Thu, 05 Jun 2014 02:52:19 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=114261#comment-3407990“The debate is moot until September, or pre-season when someone Yucs it up in live action. If it’s McCown, so be it, Glennon can start in ’15.”

buccinstopit….yeah good point, but somehow I don’t think it will fly on a site that lives off of debate. This debate will carry on until September unfortunately. If after pre-season Lovie actually does anoint McCown the starter, then I’ll be just as excited for the season.

Only my family and job are bigger than this team to me. Nothing else matters.

]]>By: buccinstopithttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/06/more-light-shone-on-bucs-offense/#comment-3407989
Thu, 05 Jun 2014 02:44:18 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=114261#comment-3407989Just remember a great word to respond to another’s argument is PERHAPS. MG is the best QB for the Bucs…Perhaps. McCown is the next Gannon…Perhaps. Lovie learned a lot in his year off…Perhaps. Tedford is a QB guru…Perhaps. A lot of optimism this off season, but every other team’s fans is going to be optimistic in the offseason. I’m sure last offseason the Texans fans would have never dreamed of the #1 draft pick.
]]>By: Buc1987http://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/06/more-light-shone-on-bucs-offense/#comment-3407988
Thu, 05 Jun 2014 02:43:30 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=114261#comment-3407988rajay..I think most of us are worried about that O-line. Actually I think 99% of us are worried about the o-line. It’s just that I’ve never seen any hatred or maybe not hatred but strong negativity towards McCown on this site. Glennon on the other hand, now that’s a different matter.

How excited would Bucs fans be about getting McCown if he had not had the season he had with the Bears last year? Ask yourselves this question. That’s called being real. Because before last season, what was he? Be real. Hope not expect. Maybe I’m wrong, maybe I should EXPECT it, but I’m a Bucs fan I rarely expect good things.

@ether..that’s a good question for you as well. If McCown had not had the season he had with the Bears last year how excited would you be about him being the starter this year? BTW plenty of “kids” are ready to lead it happens all the time. The “kid” was not ready last season during the sh*tstorm and lack of any talent around him. I think he will now be ready sooner than you think. We’ll see, I’m excited either way. I don’t say your right or wrong. That’s not for me to judge anymore. I was a Freeman fan and this is an opinion based site. Sometimes your right, sometimes your wrong. We’ll see.

]]>By: rayjay1122http://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/06/more-light-shone-on-bucs-offense/#comment-3407986
Thu, 05 Jun 2014 02:25:09 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=114261#comment-3407986@Buc1987…I was not calling out anyone in particular for wanting Glennon or McCown to fail but just the whole debate of who is better in general. I hope they both do great and the coaches have to make a tough decision. I like both of them and think we can win with either. I am more nervous about the O-line and the lack of depth. Hopefully we can steal some O-line talent during preseason cuts from teams who have an abundance.
]]>By: buccinstopithttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/06/more-light-shone-on-bucs-offense/#comment-3407985
Thu, 05 Jun 2014 02:21:50 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=114261#comment-3407985All I care about is which QB can effectively get the ball to the Dunkaneers and our, out of backfield RB. The debate is moot until September, or pre-season when someone Yucs it up in live action. If it’s McCown, so be it, Glennon can start in ’15. Then we have McCown under contract as a backup if Glennon falters in ’15. If Glennon is lights out this year, then Licht is a genius holding him, not trading him, and not drafting a project. If McCown is the next Gannon, so be it, we have 4-5 years. With our Defense, we could be sitting pretty either way.
]]>By: Andrew 1http://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/06/more-light-shone-on-bucs-offense/#comment-3407983
Thu, 05 Jun 2014 02:07:58 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=114261#comment-3407983Yea hes got t-shirt with Glennon’s face on it. woops that’s Buc1987, my bad. lol. I’m not worried about you mobers, soon enough you’re going to convert to the IMP once McCown lights it up.
]]>By: the etherhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/06/more-light-shone-on-bucs-offense/#comment-3407982
Thu, 05 Jun 2014 02:07:56 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=114261#comment-3407982^^^ This guy said:

“I would prefer answer to this, but since you can’t find one. I’ll wait.

“What if McCown was a one hit wonder last year? Happens allllll the time ya know. Up until right now at this minute. He IS a one hit wonder. Everything he did before last season was basically NOTHING!”

“Of course I’m pulling for him to be the same McCown from last season. I’m not expecting it though. The way it looks to me. You expect it to happen. Good luck with all that.”

Are you expecting McCown to be the same McCown from last season? I’m hoping for it, but it seems to this angry little 6 ft 1 guy that your expecting it.

It’s a yes or no answer.

I’ve already stated my reasons why I became part of the MGM last week. I ain’t going to do it again.”

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It’s possible that McCown was a one hit one wonder. But I don’t see it.

And no, I’m not seeing him to be the same McCannon of last year, I expect him to be better. After 30, your intellect increases, your ability to read defenses and make quick decisions and adjustments. And he knows how this league work.

He’s been through his ups and downs. But I dont think that its a coincidence that he had his best year after he stepped away from the game temporarily (like Lovie), he did a little coaching, which shows that he can lead and teach those around around him.

So no, I don’t think he’s a 1 hit wonder. As far as Glennon, I’m not rooting against him… Its just the kid isnt ready to lead and carry 50 other grown men, most of them older than him, mentor them when they need it, and come gametime, when adjustments are needed, like they weren’t made like year, I’d have to side with the vet on this one.