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U F O Theory -- Ionic Triangle Stealth Craft

So I wanted to post something besides the usual essay today but couldn't think of anything fast enough. This is a fallback I've had ready for a while, ever since an old (dead) COT topic. Plus someone else was blogging about UFOs so why not (see Czar's blog).

Now, the UFOs in question here aren't the flying saucers. It's the giant, silent triangle craft with three running lights. There have been sightings all over the country, and I even know someone who claims to have seen one. This description is near-universal. It seems unlikely to me that it's made up.

Well, a few months ago, there was an episode of Mythbusters that gave me an idea:

Why I Think This is Plausible

First of all, everybody's probably going "But what about ET?" Well, the answer is ET is working for us, and Rahkshi don't have running lights last I checked.

But seriously, I don't think any of the alien ideas are actual plausible theories. That doesn't mean it's impossible -- believe me, I'd love it if there were aliens and if they had wacky enough technology to actually come here. But there's three huge problems with the idea:

1) Statistics. Statistically the chances of life-supporting planets being close enough to us for a sublight trip here (and then only to fly around trying not to be seen) are pretty unlikely. Never mind the fact that in both major origins worldviews, logically, it's unlikely that aliens exist at all, but that's a subject we can't get into here (and is full of confusion among the populus). Statistics for the homes of aliens are an even bigger problem.

2) Travel time. Let's assume that there's an intelligent, highly advanced alien civ on a planet on the other side of the galaxy. Unlikely, but pretend. They would have to spend hundreds of thousands of years to get here as sublight speeds, since there's an upper speed limit called the speed of light. Matter cannot reach or surpass this speed. So unless some aliens figured out how to make warp drive a reality, it's unlikely they'd come here.

3) Least likely scenario. There's two main possibilities for these UFOs IMO: (1) They're classified aircraft, and (2) They're aliens. Since we know the US de-classifies aircraft every once in a while, we can assume they have classified aircraft right now. So for both the silent triangles and flying saucers, isn't it logical to conclude the UFOs are most likely classified aircraft?

The argument I see so often is "Here's evidence that there's really a UFO.... Therefore aliens are real." That makes no sense, really. Evidence that an unidentified flying object really is flying, and really is unidentified, is just that -- evidence that something's in the air that we don't know what it is. It's a giant logical leap to say it proves aliens. No, I would argue that it barely even implies them.

I think a much better argument is "Here's evidence of UFOs, and also, we can assume USA has classified aircraft. Putting two and two together, UFOs are probably just classified aircraft."

And then, the triangle shape of this theory would explain one of the types we hear about so often.

Everything you said made total sense, and I agree with it almost completely. Your idea about the triangle craft makes total sense, and I wouldn't doubt it if you explained it perfectly.

My only problem is with your Point #2 about speed. I agree that as of now, we aren't able to do any of that, but it's not necessarily "impossible". I once read about the possibility of stretching space. Your spacecraft encases itself in a "bubble" of dark energy (which has properties that keep it from phasing into our universe completely), and compresses space in front of you and expands space behind you while you travel at a given speed. Whenever you reach your destination, you disengage the dark energy and release space back into its normal shape (but you remain at your destination). Under this theory, you could travel at sublight speeds for, say, 10 days and traverse a distance of 10 lightyears.

My only problem is with your Point #2 about speed. I agree that as of now, we aren't able to do any of that, but it's not necessarily "impossible". I once read about the possibility of stretching space. Your spacecraft encases itself in a "bubble" of dark energy (which has properties that keep it from phasing into our universe completely), and compresses space in front of you and expands space behind you while you travel at a given speed. Whenever you reach your destination, you disengage the dark energy and release space back into its normal shape (but you remain at your destination). Under this theory, you could travel at sublight speeds for, say, 10 days and traverse a distance of 10 lightyears.

Actually, I agree with that. It's just that, even with that idea, we don't know of any way to actually harness the means to do it. I've got a couple different semi-fictional-semi-speculative ways of my own that I use in my own non-Bionicle fiction that it would be possible. One would be modifying space to increase the max speed limit, and of course, there's always the Stargate solution -- wormholes. Plus I've got another classified method that would allow instant travel...

My only point is, it's a lot less likely than an aircraft built by humans, flown by humans, launched here, flown here, etc.

My only point is, it's a lot less likely than an aircraft built by humans, flown by humans, launched here, flown here, etc.

Oh, totally. In fact, I just heard that the USAF is actually retiring the F-117 Nighthawk in favor of a newly declassified craft (can't remember the name though ). That actually disappoints me, because the Nighthawk was my favorite aircraft. Lol, also triangular, BTW.

My only point is, it's a lot less likely than an aircraft built by humans, flown by humans, launched here, flown here, etc.

Oh, totally. In fact, I just heard that the USAF is actually retiring the F-117 Nighthawk in favor of a newly declassified craft (can't remember the name though ). That actually disappoints me, because the Nighthawk was my favorite aircraft. Lol, also triangular, BTW.

My only point is, it's a lot less likely than an aircraft built by humans, flown by humans, launched here, flown here, etc.

Oh, totally. In fact, I just heard that the USAF is actually retiring the F-117 Nighthawk in favor of a newly declassified craft (can't remember the name though ). That actually disappoints me, because the Nighthawk was my favorite aircraft. Lol, also triangular, BTW.

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F-22 Raptor?

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Something like that, but I'm can't remember. Heard it off of the FOX News Channel.

Nah, I think they're Chupacabras in flying fat suits. Or maybe the Bili apes have reached higher evolution than ourselves, and so have invented aircraft that are special? (but serious, why are bili apes still clasified as cryptids?)

Serious, you're probably right.

I very much doubt the existence of aliens, mostly becuase I don't believe in evolution.

BtB

Edit @ Takua: If the aliens didn't want to be seen too, why would they put little lights on their ships?

I mean, really,let's think about it; 1: the government would likely have no logical reason to cover up any sort of proof of aliens, 2: many things, such as flying saucers, the "roswell incident", etc. have been confirmed by the government and proven to be experimental vehicles, 3: such an advanced type of propulsion would certainly be looked upon by government researchers with great interest.

And really, this one thing I saw on The History Channel mentioned that during the second world war, the German military had worked on, and developed flying, saucer shaped craft almost identical to what "aliens" have in science fiction movies.

So really, I wholeheartedly agree with your hypothesis. It's logical in every way I can think of, and makes perfect sense to me.

...Maybe you should devote a lil' less time on alienology and ufology and a lil' more to BZP?

Looks like an interesting theory... However I had a looseleaf study that came up with just about the same thing you did, without the Mythbusters for help. *tries to find the study...* The idea of classified aircraft is a very, very plausible one, and the fact that other UFOs have been sighted and did not match unclassified aircraft could be explained with "why would the Goverment declassify experimental craft with technology that was still developing?" So yeah, I agree with ya' on this one.

No, I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense to put lights on a craft that's not meant to be seen.

So you weren't just joking lol? As I said, the lights would presumably be so they can see when flying low, so as not to crash into trees and the like. They would switch them off when flying higher most of the time.

No, I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense to put lights on a craft that's not meant to be seen.

So you weren't just joking lol? As I said, the lights would presumably be so they can see when flying low, so as not to crash into trees and the like. They would switch them off when flying higher most of the time.

So it's a stealth aircraft that's for flying low?Well, I don't think it can be a military thing in that case, because I think the military has night-vision technology...

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If the aliens didn't want to be seen too, why would they put little lights on their ships?

I hope you're kidding there, because my response would involve a lot of typing.

Government planes are the most logical, likely, down to Earth theory. I personally hope it's totally wrong. When I just think about how just 100-ish years ago, people laughed at the idea of an airplane, and today people seem to think we know all there is about science and technology.... I'm just not ready to count out faster than light travel. Without it, of course, it really would not make any sense for aliens to come visiting us regularly.

Well we know that new ones stealth mode is fully up to speed one then. A bunch of witnesses. Not enough, but there a bunch.

I'm not totally sure I understood what you're saying, but I think we can assume they weren't in "stealth mode" when they were sighted.

BTW, another reason for running lights I thought of is this -- the craft are usually reported to be pretty large. It's possible they can't maneuver deftly if another aircraft approached, so need the lights so aircraft would know to dodge. At least when not spying on targets but flying to landing pads, etc.

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No, I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense to put lights on a craft that's not meant to be seen.

So you weren't just joking lol? As I said, the lights would presumably be so they can see when flying low, so as not to crash into trees and the like. They would switch them off when flying higher most of the time.

So it's a stealth aircraft that's for flying low?Well, I don't think it can be a military thing in that case, because I think the military has night-vision technology...

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If the aliens didn't want to be seen too, why would they put little lights on their ships?

I hope you're kidding there, because my response would involve a lot of typing.

I dunno why there'd be a distinction between military and anyone else -- night vision technology is very common (and it's pretty safe to assume any aliens smart enough to have hyperdrive would think of that too lol). Note that the above reason wouldn't be solved by night vision. Also, it's quite possible the government doesn't care if everyday citizens see the craft. We wouldn't be the ones they need to spy on with such a craft.

I'm curious what the typing would entail, so start typing.

QUOTE(jimmybob @ Apr 1 2008, 01:25 AM)

Government planes are the most logical, likely, down to Earth theory. I personally hope it's totally wrong. When I just think about how just 100-ish years ago, people laughed at the idea of an airplane, and today people seem to think we know all there is about science and technology.... I'm just not ready to count out faster than light travel. Without it, of course, it really would not make any sense for aliens to come visiting us regularly.

I'm not ready to count it out either. Not sure I hope that these are aliens though, 'cuz if hi-tech aliens are keeping themselves secret from us, they'd probably be hostile.

Well we know that new ones stealth mode is fully up to speed one then. A bunch of witnesses. Not enough, but there a bunch.

I'm not totally sure I understood what you're saying, but I think we can assume they weren't in "stealth mode" when they were sighted.

BTW, another reason for running lights I thought of is this -- the craft are usually reported to be pretty large. It's possible they can't maneuver deftly if another aircraft approached, so need the lights so aircraft would know to dodge. At least when not spying on targets but flying to landing pads, etc.

QUOTE(Takua the Wanderer @ Mar 31 2008, 11:30 PM)

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QUOTE(Takua the Wanderer @ Mar 31 2008, 08:46 PM)

No, I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense to put lights on a craft that's not meant to be seen.

So you weren't just joking lol? As I said, the lights would presumably be so they can see when flying low, so as not to crash into trees and the like. They would switch them off when flying higher most of the time.

So it's a stealth aircraft that's for flying low?Well, I don't think it can be a military thing in that case, because I think the military has night-vision technology...

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If the aliens didn't want to be seen too, why would they put little lights on their ships?

I hope you're kidding there, because my response would involve a lot of typing.

I dunno why there'd be a distinction between military and anyone else -- night vision technology is very common (and it's pretty safe to assume any aliens smart enough to have hyperdrive would think of that too lol). Note that the above reason wouldn't be solved by night vision. Also, it's quite possible the government doesn't care if everyday citizens see the craft. We wouldn't be the ones they need to spy on with such a craft.

I'm curious what the typing would entail, so start typing.

QUOTE(jimmybob @ Apr 1 2008, 01:25 AM)

Government planes are the most logical, likely, down to Earth theory. I personally hope it's totally wrong. When I just think about how just 100-ish years ago, people laughed at the idea of an airplane, and today people seem to think we know all there is about science and technology.... I'm just not ready to count out faster than light travel. Without it, of course, it really would not make any sense for aliens to come visiting us regularly.

I'm not ready to count it out either. Not sure I hope that these are aliens though, 'cuz if hi-tech aliens are keeping themselves secret from us, they'd probably be hostile.

Now that's a really scary thought. With all the current problems in the world, are the aliens() spying on us? :scared:The Chupacabra scares me.

Anyways, I agree with you that U.F.O's are most likely military planes. What better place to test them than in rural areas (isn't that where most sightings are ).

But Bones, if U.F.O's are actually classified planes, how would you explain people sighting them in public areas. Have you seen footage of U.F.O sightings in Mexico City, Mexico? What pilot would expose his "Top Secret" plane to the masses? He/She would have to be a total moron.

If you did reach light speed, the smallest speck of debris would literally make the ship explode.And now it's possible to reach the speed of light, because scientists have discovered a means by which to slow down light, even stop it entirely.What I find funny about that is this: if light was going at 0 mph, it couldn't reach your eyes.

"Watch now, as I stop light; entirely!" *click*"Wow, that's amazing! It looked like you just turned the lights off!""Err, yeah..."

Got tired of maj being offline so put the craft pic on bshelf for now.

QUOTE(~ShadowBolt~ @ Apr 1 2008, 04:14 PM)

But if aliens were hostile, wouldn't they have destroyed us already?

Anyways, I agree with you that U.F.O's are most likely military planes. What better place to test them than in rural areas (isn't that where most sightings are ).

But Bones, if U.F.O's are actually classified planes, how would you explain people sighting them in public areas. Have you seen footage of U.F.O sightings in Mexico City, Mexico? What pilot would expose his "Top Secret" plane to the masses? He/She would have to be a total moron.

~SB~

1) Not if they're scouts, though I think you might have been joking.

2) Pretty sure that is where most sightings are, yes. But there have been exceptions.

3) Haven't seen footage no. But what kind of craft was it, and BTW, we can't assume all UFOs are from the US. There are other people in the world yanno, lol. But assuming for the sake of discussion that it was ours, I doubt the plan was to let it be seen. Missions of any kind, classified or not, can easily go wrong (and do).

QUOTE(Great Being #1 @ Apr 1 2008, 09:45 PM)

I still think that some UFOs are real. I doubt the gov would cover up a bunch of stuff and presumably kill off some peoploe if there really hadn't been any alien crashes.

Well of course they're "real." Classified vehicles would be "real", no? And governments cover stuff up all the time. Part of their nature. CIA, yanno?

QUOTE(Arenethas @ Apr 2 2008, 10:26 PM)

If you did reach light speed, the smallest speck of debris would literally make the ship explode.And now it's possible to reach the speed of light, because scientists have discovered a means by which to slow down light, even stop it entirely.What I find funny about that is this: if light was going at 0 mph, it couldn't reach your eyes.

"Watch now, as I stop light; entirely!" *click*"Wow, that's amazing! It looked like you just turned the lights off!""Err, yeah..."

If you had deflector arrays like in Star Trek, though, or forcefields of some powerful kind, debris wouldn't be an issue.

About the footage, you might find it on the History Channel on "U.F.O Hunters". I think the UFO was just a series of lights flying together. (That's what all UFO's are anyways. )

I remember that episode of Mythbusters but the USAF has tested these things in the past but they were just uncontrollable and useless. Though, the USAF probably has even better prototypes by now.

For some reason, the design of the aircraft seems pretty unstable and if it were to fly, the engines would need to be so powerful that it would be past the point where aerodynamics have an effect on controllability.

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"Brave Knight Binkmeister thought he could banish me with new software. Ha! Lord Survurlode is immortal--I survived because I retained a connection with the One Refresh To Rule Them All. Sauron tried to survive in the telephone system with his One Ring--but that dastardly Frodo tossed it into Mount Dume. Sauron was lost. But the Refresh still exists, oh yes, and as long as it does, I live also, to bring my floods to the BZP forums!"

--Evil Lord Survurlode,in a BZP interview

"Killeth them with kindness. That's what my mother taught me. So I figured, instead of trying to fight Brave Knight Binkmeister's attempt to overthrow me... I would instead give him the one thing he loves most. Bubble Wrap. Not only him, but all of his followers. BZP members once knew me as their common enemy. But now... am I just a kind old man who has free Bubble Wrap?"

--Evil Lord Survurlode

"Why in the world am I calling him Brave Knight Binkmeister?! That term sounds... nice. It makes him sound like a hero! NO!!! He's my enemy! No, no, henceforth he shalt be known as 'Cowardly Scum Binkmeister'!"

--Evil Lord Survurlode

"Yes, my new minion, you now see the dastardly plans BZP members have--they seek to avoid my floods by getting on in the morning or the late evening, or worse, the nighttime. Sauron might have been a sleepless creature of the night, but personally I can't stand coffee. But not to worry! You, my friend, will go out and enslave the members. You will sit enthroned on their shelves, hung from their walls like a cursed mark, and wrapped around their wrists like handcuffs. Even they shalt know the constraints of time! Behold, the Evil Clock!"

--Evil Lord Survurlode

"What is that you sayeth, Evil Clock? BZPower is now five long years old? So what? I am thousands upon thousands of years old! I am, in fact, as old as the ocean that I command with my floods! I am even older than clocks like you! What's that? Yeah, yeah, but I just don't feel like AARP is for me..."

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"What do you mean, I'm not speaking in proper Old English? I am Lord Survurlode. If I say this is Old English, it iseth!"

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"Frodo? Why would I be scared of him? He sailed off to the West--it means he died, yo! Besides, the One Refresh cannot be melted in some volcano. It would take a... No, wait... Sorry, that information is classified. Muahahahaha!"

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"The term 'Yo' can be Old English! Yeesh!"

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"See, my problem is that I am far older than Old English. To me it's that newfangled slang those Anglo-Saxon types speak. You'll forgive me if I get it confused with the five million different versions that came out since then. Yes, you will. Or else."

"Brave Knight--I mean, Cowardly Sponge Binkmeister has attempted to attacketh me once again! But lo, I am-- What? Sponge? Is that what I said? I meant Scum. Brave Scum Binkmeister-- What now? Oh, be quiet, minion."

--Evil Lord Survurlode

"No, I am not a girl!"

--Evil Lord Survurlode,on his power over water

"Muahahahahahahahaha*cough* *hack* *gurgle* ..... *ahem* Must remember to watch the evil laugh when the floodwaters get that high..."

--Evil Lord Survurlode

"Oh, that's an easy question. See, Sauron's One Telephone Ring looked like a metal ring, right? Well, the One Refresh looks like a ring made out of those green arrows... like on that refresh button up there. Wait... why am I telling you this?!"

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The point is, writing either a drum solo, or is like a mountain, the bigger the base, the higher it can get, and the more amazing it is. Think about it, when building a mountain of dirt or sand, you need to slowly create your huge base, then as you build towards the peak things get faster and easier to pile on. The High points are where the story is fast paced and we are reaching the climax--what we just left on the last mountain of story we had (the MU story arch), and now Greg is building a new story mountain for us."

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Forgetting things since.... umm....

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Ironicles.

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"In the end, this character wins, somehow."

Now, do you think this is a successful format for a story, that anybody would really want to read? [...] Readers demand that you as writer have thought through the "how" of the story.

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Ha ha! Voriki myth still isn't dead? It's been so long since the constant flow of these topics stopped I guess I thought Voriki had finally kicked the bucket. Well, I hate to put another nail in the old guy's coffin, but...

Topic closed.

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I think Evil Lord Survurlode is out to get me.

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Bionicle doesn't revolve around ANY one fan. Not even you.

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Besides, show me a brown rock, and I'll use your logic on you. "That's not a rock, it's hardened lava."

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Forty-two.

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I had the same theory in ages past, and Greg personally disproved it.

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The thing can destroy time, man. You guard those kinda things.

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Which I suppose is a fancy way of saying, "I have no idea."

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Bionicle was supposedly a betrayal of everything LEGO stands for, its pieces far too clunky, a horrible turn away from the more "intelligent" Technic and a total stabbing in the back of the good old brick, an insult to AFOLS, evidence of a mythical trend away from the construction toy, far too violent, etc.

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It's really pretty simple:

Gadunka is one of the "coolest" sets ever. Most inventive, most unusual, most striking. Thus, he is horrible.

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Of course they're weird. All Bionicle names are supposed to be weird. Show me the Bionicle name that is "normal".

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You just completely contradicted yourself. If Mata Nui was working out great, then wouldn't Metru Nui have made less money?

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If that's greedy, then you are greedy for driving in a car to get somewhere far away fast, for wearing shoes so you can walk at a reasonable pace without cutting your feet, using silverware to better eat your food, using a telephone to avoid having to make a trip and speak, using a computer to type a forum post when you could walk personally to everybody's house and speak what you just said over and over and over again.... At least 2000 times to account for all the possible active BZP members, and preferably about five million times -- and you'd have to go door to door throughout the whole world to even figure out which people were Bionicle fans anyways before you started confusing monks in Tibet with strange words like "Kongu" and "Cordak". All within your own lifetime, regardless of whatever else you had wanted to do in your life.

And forget speech. You have to scratch out the message with your fingernails in stone. Then maybe you wouldn't be greedy. Maybe.

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Nobody would surprise me, so it's probably Makuta. But I went with Hydraxon, because he's a weapons master and it would make sense, no?

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Why didn't I think of that earlier?

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I don't just ask rhetorical questions -- I answer them.

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I knew you'd say that.

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You're a body with a head. So what?

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A simple conversion is not a business plan to actually get two radically different markets to behave as if they were the same.

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Um, hello? Are my posts invisible?

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Universe go poof.

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I hate typing Roman numerals above three.

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I always find these topics funny -- everybody goes in circles, pointing to the exact same aspect of the set and going "See that? So it's obvious it's horrible! How can you not see that?", and then someone else saying, "See that? It's obvious it's awesome! How can you not see that?"

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Obviously, not everybody sees I to I.

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They have their uses -- like if you're making a MOC that's supposed to be a light green faceless humanoid.

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I hate it when I can't tell if someone's joking.

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Yes, that's an excuse to be lazy.

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Hold on just a second. I think you have things backwards. Mata Nui was not paradise -- it was a place of horror and war for a thousand years!

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Lol.

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I'm a logician. I can tell you that your argument does not merely sound illogical. It is.

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Yeah, that'd be bad. Next question?

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We'd still have wooden ducks, no plastic bricks, and definately no LEGO if change was prevented. Really, we wouldn't even have that.

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It is unfortunate that it's this way (at least for us). But it is. We might as well come to grips with it.

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And I walk away in peace.

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You have no idea how many times I've read this style of opening to this kind of topic, man. I must admit I am very very tired of it.

*deeeeep breath*

*shakes head madly*

Okay, I'm good.

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My memory doesn't go back that far.

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If I didn't agree with something, I'd try to find out the reasons for it before doing anything else, which is something I think some people forget to do and instead they dig themselves a hole for no reason.

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Lol, I think you missed the point -- BR isn't going to think your forum deserves approval if he has to be told it exists.

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I'm a coolomaniac.

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But I like spam!Wait...

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This is not a country. This is a website. Countries are led by governments. Websites are owned by owners. Countries are places you physically exist in, and may have difficulty leaving. Websites are places YOU choose to go. Countries are places you may be born in, or grow up in, etc.

BZPower is a place YOU sign an agreement in order to join. Blame cannot be placed on us when a member violates that agreement. And if a member chooses not to like that agreement anymore, they are free to leave at will. If a member violates the agreement they made with us, we are justified in punishing the member as agreed.

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I'm a logician -- I think in terms of what makes sense all the time. I don't just agree -- I know why I agree, and I think my reasons are pretty sound.

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If I'm breaking a rule, it's because I gave myself permission to allow myself an exception, thus I am not technically breaking it.

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[A]lthough Evil Lord Survurlode does seem to be making a bit of a comeback, just like Sauron, so we might have an epic war that will spawn a novel and three giant books of a trilogy soon... but yeah...

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I object to the wording of this question.

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Huzzah?

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Ever had one of those moments where you think you just passed into an alternate timeline? This is one. ()_o

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Rants are based on pompous egos and desire to pick a fight. Not intelligence.

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The Monster on LOST is Makuta.

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Cynics are some of the most naive people on the planet. They hear someone claim things are bad, and they accept it without question.

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I'm a realist with an imagination.

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I blame Survurlode.

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You see a flamer, your response should not be to just flame him back -- you lower yourself to his level if you do.

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Let's open that can of worms, as unpleasant as it might be. [...] *I'm not afraid of you, worms!*

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"Transformation" can be as simple as a bomb rearranging a building into a debris field.

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Far better to be proven wrong than to be wrong without knowing it.

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I remember when I was a kid, and I was just playing around, I didn't know this stuff, so I said gas prices were five dollars at my play gas station.

Take an election between two candidates. Obviously, both candidates will get votes. However, one will get more votes, and one will get less. You would be, in this example, voting for the one with less votes (Mr. Olderfanson). You see why the fact that you, one person, did vote for that guy, doesn't prove that he won the election? [...] "Mr. Newerfanson" won the election.

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In general, I do enjoy debates--but I don't enjoy being flamed, no. Nor do I enjoy wasting time when I have tons of PMs I need to reply to and top secret reference projects to work on and all that responding to things that could have been cleared up with more thought before posting, heh. Debates can still get tedious when it seems (please note "seems"!) that a few people refuse to approach them with an open mind.

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>_><_>

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I didn't even spell "the" right.

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Lol. I never said I'm always right! Yeesh, what do I have to do to convince you guys I don't think that? Purposefully take wrong positions or something?

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Guess what? I could draw before I learned to write, but does that mean I should get all huffy and insulted at the fact that not everybody shares my particular talent? This is just absurd, isn't it? Did you honestly think that everybody has the same talents and gains proficiency at the same time?

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When someone much older than you was a kid, LEGO was wooden toys. [fogie teeth voice]"These newfangled plastic things are insulting! As if there isn't money to be made in good old fashioned woodblock toys!"[/fogie teeth voice]

Or something... Sing it! You don't even have to agree with me! Just sing it anyways, maaan!

Sing!

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Your mistake is that you are thinking in terms of a simplistic "formula" of strength, and thinking that can be used to predict everything. It can't--every situation is different, and sometimes a weak Matoran might catch a glimpse of a passing Rahkshi while a powerful "Toa Ultimaultrasuper" might get blasted to bits when the same Rahkshi actually attacks. You need to be realistic--think in terms of the situation. Stories are based on that--they are a "game of seconds and inches" where dangers both big and small can occur to both powerful and weak people, and how you perform depends on your brains and the time you have to prepare more than your actual power level.

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Why did the entirely robotic Bohrok need teeth? Someone explain how that is okay but teeth in Piraka isn't?

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Phew. Now, to post, and see if I maxed the text limit out.

Yabo! Hahaha!

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Thanks X. Thanks D. Thanks X and D. XD

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I lazy.

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You can make any innovation look bad if you point to the non-innovative ways (the old "normal" ways) and claim they must be followed blindly.

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But what I don't get about it is -- why the apparent desire to kill characters off for no reason? In real life you meet tons of people who you will never meet again, and they're not dead. Is that to you a problem? I don't get it -- you'd go insane if you tried to stay in touch with every random old lady that said hi when you were walking the dog...

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Yes, my post in this topic is product placement. So sue me.

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In addition, high gravity affects spacetime on a fundamental level, slowing time down and bending the spatial brane. Not to be confused with the spacious brain.

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It would create a field of electrogravimetry that would pull all nearby matter in and then make it explode. The explosion cloud would take the form of an anchovy.

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There's only a slim chance that we exist.

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I love taking myself out of context.

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I think it's admirable to be careful not to offend people where it makes sense. But at some point, you have to be willing to stand up for yourself and be confident enough that if someone comes at you with an unreasonable accusation, you don't take it.

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I think aliens invaded already and have fooled us into thinking they are mere animals who "meow".

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Good stories aren't puppet shows. They are tales of life, with realistic characters -- people -- living out their lives, with really minimal "guiding" by the author.

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Oh goody, a complainer to blast to oblivion.

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To begin with, I disagree strongly with pretending it is "killing off", rather than a serious story being told, with serious themes and life in the story. Characters aren't "killed off". They die.

I find this term somewhat offensive, because it implies the writer kills the character like a TV show host telling a contestant to leave. This is not a game show. It is the events of the storyline that kill the character. That term is merely a psychological shield to avoid the emotion of the moment in the story. IMO, that's a kind of immaturity.

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Um.

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You can't always get what you want "now now now". Your logic makes no sense -- if you want to know what's in the books, that means you support the books' existence. Yet you apparently want spoilers to go up the day it's out, so in the countries where it is bought, people could just read the spoilers and not buy the book, risking its sales going down and the books ending, and thus no more spoilers for you to read!

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Truth = Truth. And nothing else.

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I had spammed ten thousand times.

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A good comedy is a development, like a story, not a punchline. You start with a situation, and it goes in unexpected, funny ways, which leads into other twists, to a conclusion that often can be more serious than funny, avoiding random cliches and developing enough logic that it doesn't feel like you slapped random nonsense down. Comedies Forum has this bad rap of having a lot of Unfunny Stuff -- I think it's the temptation to write short punchlines drawing on typical one-liner cliches that causes this. The 300 word rule is a good basic start to avoiding that problem.

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Dude. My voting precint is a "23".

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And what people are saying about randomosity is true -- I hope that it's not surprising that as a logician, I understand how to be funny (though I won't try in this post ). Logic isn't for Spock who refuses to smile -- you actually need logic in your comedy to make it funny. In my experience, a balance of logic and random nonsense helps -- even logic OF the random nonsense.

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I highly recommendate it.

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Another mistake a lot of people make is thinking a comedy must be 100% funny -- reality is that that tends to just overwhelm the reader and come off more as spam. If you look at my Survurlode interviews, for example, there is always at least one serious theme that the whole work revolves around. The serious aspects support the humorous, and vice versa.

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*strongly approves of the use of the term "bionical"*

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Well, my observation has always been the opposite -- more established official facts inspires MORE fan imagination -- at least with imaginative official facts. It was really only once the "gappists" starting complaining, in my observation as a 2003+ member here, about "tons of official facts" that I saw the fanfiction community here really explode with creativity.

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How much wood would a woodwood wood if a woodwood would would wood?

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But my point related to that isn't that I literally think it should be FULLY sun-sized. I'm just saying, there's a whole range, from a little larger than Earth, to a LOT larger, to a TONTONZILLION larger, and it's all possible if the story team just feels like it.

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*imagines massive asteriod pulling out a pirate's telescope lol*

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GD is NOT for storyline-only discussion. That discussion belongs in S&T.

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S&T policies are designed for good reasons, tried, tested, and they work.

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Sure I'm sure -- it's Bionicle. Anything's possible.

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I never understand these claims -- how do you know what "proportionate" is for that character? He's a fictional character, made out of plastic LEGO parts.

So why get annoyed at it? When you look at a giraffe, do you get annoyed? It makes no sense to me to do so.

Besides, you're setting yourself up for it. Nobody ever told you these characters were supposed to be exactly human.

If you look at an ape, would you say it's done wrong, just because it resembles a human?

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I plan not to, but I guess if the site shut down I'd kinda have to, wouldn't I?

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...they usually give their jokes when they have the upper hand at the moment, though, or when they've just run into a frustrating difficulty that's not immediately dangerous, which are realistic IMO. When they're in immediate danger, I am not aware that they pause to crack jokes.

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I strongly disagree -- everybody capitalizes their name. It's cliche.

(I do not capitalize because 1) I hate being cliche, and 2) it is symbolic of humility.)

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I knew you'd say that.

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Seriously though, obviously the focus groups like silver, guys -- there's no mystery, those of you portraying it as odd that LEGO keeps using the color. This is how personal taste works -- it differs, and you're gonna find yourself in the minority sometimes. Best get used to it -- that's life.

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*lets self dp*

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I'm not a soldier, but I know that keeping your sense of humor alive even in dangerous or serious situations can be a huge boon to keeping your sanity.

He who forgets how to laugh forgets how to live.

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I heart silver. My favorite metallic. If I had my way, gold would be considered lesser than silver.

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The red eye thing is the closest thing you have to evidence, but I could argue that Berix is the traitor for spending time away from the villages, or Ackar is the traitor because his name sounds like Admiral Ackbar and there was a traitor in Star Wars called Darth Vader.

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Ultimately it comes down to this for me -- YOU choose to dissapointed or miserable.

If you expected the universe to be perfect, that was your choice, and really not very sensible of you.

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If I as a writer were to try to appeal to the attitude you express in your post, I would feel like I am constantly walking on eggshells. Everytime I had a cool idea how to use a character, or more importantly logic told me the character naturally would be involved in something, I would have to worry about whether I shouldn't do it as it might offend someone.

That's a miserable way to write, and I wouldn't wish that on the story team, myself, or anyone.

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But one thing. Everyone expects something when they do something.

Very true. For example, when I posted the above post, I expected somebody to reward me with this point, giving me an excuse to discuss it in a separate post so as to give it better focus.

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Therefore, the more "things to expect" from a "donation or whatever the heck you want to call it", the more likely we get mooooolaaaaaaaa. Therefore good.

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I don't see what the anology has to do with this. "Chevys" (or "Chevies") makes sense. Like "Keets" or Morby or my personal favorite for Makuta -- Terry Mack. "Biological Chronicles" referring to beings makes no sense. And as I typed this, a Chevy ad came on TV. They called it "Chevy." Seriously, exact same time.