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The world’s first, full-service conservative Internet broadcast networkSun, 02 Aug 2015 18:48:32 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.5By: The Morning Flap: February 19, 2013 - Flap's Bloghttp://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/18/why-is-obama-threatening-to-release-his-own-immigration-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-6736243
Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:04:31 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=245215#comment-6736243[…] Why is Obama threatening to release his own immigration plan? – The brutal truth, as some Republicans aren’t shy about noting, is that Obama’s bill isn’t all that different from Rubio’s. And to the extent that it is different, Democrats and their immigration-lobby allies will go on agitating to make the final product more like O’s bill if/when it passes. He can live, happily, with Rubio’s bill as law. On the other hand, If Obama talks up his own bill and ends up polarizing the issue until the compromise falls apart, great! He’ll happily use that as leverage for the “GOP hates Latinos” talking point in 2014. Realistically, the only way he’ll have a truly consequential second term is if Democrats can take back the House; that’s what his gun-control campaign right now is all about, and that’s what the fate of things like cap-and-trade rests on. If Republicans hang onto the House next year, O’s last two years will be spent mired in lame-duck misery. If they don’t, he’ll be the rare president who ends eight years in office with a flurry of significant “achievements.” I think Obama would be willing to trade that legacy for the legacy of having passed comprehensive immigration reform with GOP help, especially given what it means for Democratic electoral gains long-term, but if he does get the House back in 2014 then he can pass immigration reform — and an assault-weapons ban, and cap-and-trade — later. The only true disaster scenario for him is if immigration talks collapse now and the GOP holds the House in 2014 anyway. That’s quite possible, and maybe even probable, and that’s why he’s not being more aggressive right now in trying to sabotage the negotiations. […]
]]>By: virgohttp://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/18/why-is-obama-threatening-to-release-his-own-immigration-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-6735845
Tue, 19 Feb 2013 05:03:43 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=245215#comment-6735845I expect Obama’s Immigration bill is in the same place as he keeps his budget.

We all know he is lazy when it comes to boring stuff like this. He doesn’t have anything but doesn’t need to let Congress make progress on anything.

The GOP’s simply not going to risk another “anti-Latino” messaging barrage from Dems before a new presidential election. Obama might not get this done now but he will get this done, no matter what happens in 2014.

No matter what the Latinos will not vote for the Rs. The effort is all futile and the Rs will be labeled the “party of the illegals”.

If Obama talks up his own bill and ends up polarizing the issue until the compromise falls apart, great! He’ll happily use that as leverage for the “GOP hates Latinos” talking point in 2014. Realistically, the only way he’ll have a truly consequential second term is if Democrats can take back the House; that’s what his gun-control campaign right now is all about, and that’s what the fate of things like cap-and-trade rests on. If Republicans hang onto the House next year, O’s last two years will be spent mired in lame-duck misery. If they don’t, he’ll be the rare president who ends eight years in office with a flurry of significant “achievements.”

THIS.

He’s going all-in on holding the Senate, winning back the House, and burying the Republican Party for at least a generation. And of course, bankrupting the nation if all of that happens.

I’m wondering when the president had time to come up with a plan. The guy never works.

scalleywag on February 18, 2013 at 5:53 PM

I’m wondering when Jeb’s Waterboy had time to come up with a plan. The guy never works.

Right now the JUNIOR senator is on his way to Israel, again. Why? He was too busy talking up amnesty on talk radio and didn’t vote against Kerry. Will he be around to vote against Hagel? Why isn’t the little Waterboy screaming bloody murder about corruptocrat Lew?

I didn’t send the Waterboy to DC to run for POTUS or become a corruptocrat. We Floridians sent him there to do Florida’s business not be Jeb Bush’s Waterboy.

He is an immature first term senator, a legend in his own mind, has NO EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE, and hasn’t cultivated any relationships. Sounds just like Obama to me.

How did that work out? Or are we all just hypocrites.

I don’t believe in Affirmative Action. If the Waterboy wants the job he has to earn it the old fashioned way. He reminds me of the little snot noses that show up at the office the first day and demand the corner office.

The key to this strategy, though, is for Obama to push his own bill before negotiations over the Rubio/Schumer bill fall apart.

Oh bullshit. Obama doesn’t care one way of the: he knows the media will cover for him and blame the Republicans no matter what happens or who does it! He can just work on his golf.

This is what happenes when the media decides to quit doing its job out of infatuation with an unprincipled charlatan – the only thing he ever learned to do is set people against each other and now nobody can stop him.

It is going to be very difficult for the Republicans to lose the House.

Illinidiva

About as difficult as the last time they pushed this amnesty crap.

Remind me what the GOP gets out of this deal, again?

Purple Fury

Permanent minority status.

]]>By: scalleywaghttp://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/18/why-is-obama-threatening-to-release-his-own-immigration-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-6734981
Mon, 18 Feb 2013 22:53:49 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=245215#comment-6734981I’m wondering when the president had time to come up with a plan. The guy never works.
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Mon, 18 Feb 2013 22:48:41 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=245215#comment-6734977OT: the palinization of rubio is alive and well on cnn with wolfie
]]>By: slickwillie2001http://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/18/why-is-obama-threatening-to-release-his-own-immigration-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-6734973
Mon, 18 Feb 2013 22:46:59 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=245215#comment-6734973Because he’s like a spoiled little kid that just HAS to be the center of attention.
]]>By: can_conhttp://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/18/why-is-obama-threatening-to-release-his-own-immigration-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-6734968
Mon, 18 Feb 2013 22:42:55 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=245215#comment-6734968

Just give’em all citizenship with one stipulation – they will be classified as felons for breaking US law and not be allowed to vote.

That will end the discussion immediately.

Tater Salad on February 18, 2013 at 5:34 PM

You make a helluva lot of sense. How do people who are known felons get to become citizens with voting rights???

Kinda like how a certain person has known relationships with felons and domestic terrorists (which should eliminate any chance of getting security clearances), yet manages to become the President.

My point remains valid: 0bama blows and the only way to lose to him is if you try really really hard…

]]>By: Wanderhttp://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/18/why-is-obama-threatening-to-release-his-own-immigration-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-6734955
Mon, 18 Feb 2013 22:38:02 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=245215#comment-6734955Keep in mind that the plan to “solve” the problem by winking and handing out green cards lets not only the illegals off the hook, but the politicians on both sides off the hook for doing nothing for 30 years.
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]]>By: Tater Saladhttp://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/18/why-is-obama-threatening-to-release-his-own-immigration-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-6734946
Mon, 18 Feb 2013 22:34:46 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=245215#comment-6734946Just give’em all citizenship with one stipulation – they will be classified as felons for breaking US law and not be allowed to vote.

You keep saying this although it’s nonsense. Rubio is almost certainly going to have credible primary opponents to his right on immigration (and that might include Paul and Jindal, neither of whom has endorsed his plan). Ted Cruz is likely running, maybe Susana Martinez (who declined to endorse Rubio’s plan), and who knows who else.

Jon0815 on February 18, 2013 at 5:23 PM

1. Martinez is to the left of Rubio on this. That is why she declined to endorse his plan. I believe that she agrees more with Jeb Bush.

3. Paul has definitely endorsed some form of legalization on principle.

4. Do you really think that Jindal is going to come out to the right of this one? It seems to me that Jindal’s playbook in 2016 is to triangulate ala Bill Clinton and present himself as a reasonable executive and technocrat. Demagoguing the immigration goes against that issue.