The sun blesses us in many ways. It, for one, is the source of all life on this planet. For that we should be thankful. But this lesson is not about.

For all of its blessings and great gift and offering it provides us, it is requisite of only one thing lest we feel it's pain: We must remain humble. For one with a bowed head is humble and mindful of the gifts that the sun provides. For one with a foolish head who wishes to know the sun, it punishes thee for looking into it's eye. In this pain of staring at the sun, we are given knowledge, however, that desire will lead us to suffering, and to be humble and accepting is to reap the fruits of this world correctly.

gregkavarnos wrote:It is not necessary to worship some (any) thing in order to respect and acknowledge its importance .

Yet why not worship everything? Worship is done with the heart, respect and acknowledgement are done with the head. There are certain types of understanding that are best approached by surrender, going past the protestations of the mind: "Explain this!"

gregkavarnos wrote:It is not necessary to worship some (any) thing in order to respect and acknowledge its importance .

Yet why not worship everything? Worship is done with the heart, respect and acknowledgement are done with the head. There are certain types of understanding that are best approached by surrender, going past the protestations of the mind: "Explain this!"

Pantheism? If I spent my whole time worshipping everything it wouldn't leave much time for anything alse really, would it?

I think justifying attachment to the sun is wrong, also saying that we need to suffer the consequences of something, when there is no reason for suffering.

Existence can be normal.Ex:a Apple tree is a apple treeEx:Michael is Michael, Michael is who Michael is

Existence can be conditioned. Ex: Apple tree is apple tree if apple tree growsEx: Michael is Michael if Michael is a kingEx: Michael is Michael if Michael is walkingEx: Michael is Michael if Michael is not walking

Existence can be unconditionedEx: Apple is apple tree once apple tree is grown for 50 weeksEx: Michael is Michael once Michael is a kingEx: Michael is content Michael once Michael is walkingEx: Michael is discontent Michael once Michael is walking.

gregkavarnos wrote:It is not necessary to worship some (any) thing in order to respect and acknowledge its importance .

Yet why not worship everything? Worship is done with the heart, respect and acknowledgement are done with the head. There are certain types of understanding that are best approached by surrender, going past the protestations of the mind: "Explain this!"

Pantheism? If I spent my whole time worshipping everything it wouldn't leave much time for anything alse really, would it?

What if you worshipped only happiness? What else would u need time for?

Existence can be normal.Ex:a Apple tree is a apple treeEx:Michael is Michael, Michael is who Michael is

Existence can be conditioned. Ex: Apple tree is apple tree if apple tree growsEx: Michael is Michael if Michael is a kingEx: Michael is Michael if Michael is walkingEx: Michael is Michael if Michael is not walking

Existence can be unconditionedEx: Apple is apple tree once apple tree is grown for 50 weeksEx: Michael is Michael once Michael is a kingEx: Michael is content Michael once Michael is walkingEx: Michael is discontent Michael once Michael is walking.

gregkavarnos wrote:It is not necessary to worship some (any) thing in order to respect and acknowledge its importance .

Yet why not worship everything? Worship is done with the heart, respect and acknowledgement are done with the head. There are certain types of understanding that are best approached by surrender, going past the protestations of the mind: "Explain this!"

Pantheism? If I spent my whole time worshipping everything it wouldn't leave much time for anything alse really, would it?

Well, the tantric approach of viewing all phenomena as the deities of the mandala is really the same thing... and leaving no time for anything else is exactly the point of such sacred outlook!

I was once on retreat and we were asked to choose something to internally visualise and meditate on. Later at tea, we discussed our visual meditations. Most used flowers, candle flame, a Buddha etc. The wonderful and positive arisings they had experienced . . .They should not have asked me. I choose a dog turd. Revulsion is an interesting thing. Luckily an experienced meditator was able to explain confirm the merit in focussing on the emptiness of all mind constructions . . . Personally I could not give a Sun . . .