suicide. WHY!

The thing with suicide is ya gotta think...is this gonna matter in 5 or 10 years..probably not? But I have always said if I get to a point in my life where you have to change my sh*tty ***...Please just kill me. I mean if it's gonna be permanent and I have no chance of ever coming out of it.

The thing with suicide is ya gotta think...is this gonna matter in 5 or 10 years..probably not? But I have always said if I get to a point in my life where you have to change my sh*tty ***...Please just kill me. I mean if it's gonna be permanent and I have no chance of ever coming out of it.

The thing with suicide is ya gotta think...is this gonna matter in 5 or 10 years..probably not? But I have always said if I get to a point in my life where you have to change my sh*tty ***...Please just kill me. I mean if it's gonna be permanent and I have no chance of ever coming out of it.

true story a uncle of mine got pretty messed up on a snow mobile accident in a coma paralyzed the whole bit. Well he did a ton of physical therapy and pretty much got his body in good enough shape to get his shot gun and well you know. I've got a couple stories like this in my family, is this a thing that can be passed on? are more gene pools at risk than others? I should probably be looking into this

I think it's very hard to sit there and say, "my view on suicide is... *insert statement*."

There are so many degrees of suicide.

You have people diagnoised with a terminal disease who know they will die and decide rather then drain their insurance companies and family members dry financially, they take their own life.

Then you have the pill poppers... the ones who die and people say, "hmm, he had to know that much cocaine mixed with heroin would kill him, right? Right?"

Then you have the chronically depressed who decide to leave a note rather then tell someone...

Then of course you have the crem de la crem... the jackass who buys a ton of guns and decides, "If I'm goin out, I'm takin a bunch of people with me".

I think all cases are obviously weighed differently and the only thing that I have to say about suicide is that it truely is a drain on the effected family members and I hope that anyone who does commit suicide understands the burden of stress (emotionally and financially) that they're leavying onto their loved ones.

I had a friend who OD'ed back in high school, had a friend in college who hung himself... the only thing I really hoped, was that they thought about the consequences of their actions before they went through with them.

I really think that if my friend Eric could have seen the way his girlfriend basically fell apart after he OD'ed and died, he never would have done it. Same goes for my friend Bobby who hung himself... just completely destroyed his family.

It's a tough subject because it's so broad. I obviously have no sympathy or remorse for the a-holes who took over the 9/11 planes and killed themselves and a ton of others. I do have to admit that I have sympathy for those who leave a note and hang themselves... I hope I never realize that level of sadness.

The thing with suicide is ya gotta think...is this gonna matter in 5 or 10 years..probably not? But I have always said if I get to a point in my life where you have to change my sh*tty ***...Please just kill me. I mean if it's gonna be permanent and I have no chance of ever coming out of it.

true story a uncle of mine got pretty messed up on a snow mobile accident in a coma paralyzed the whole bit. Well he did a ton of physical therapy and pretty much got his body in good enough shape to get his shot gun and well you know. I've got a couple stories like this in my family, is this a thing that can be passed on? are more gene pools at risk than others? I should probably be looking into this

i do'nt think suicide is hereditary, but depression for sure is. a proclivity for self-destruction tends to be as well. if your family has a history of alcoholism, keep an eye on yourself. and since oyu're a trucker, keep away from the meth (can lead to craziness if you have latent crazy genes). i don't want you to think i'm pigeonholing truckers as meth-heads, i'm not. but it is common.

I think it's very hard to sit there and say, "my view on suicide is... *insert statement*."

There are so many degrees of suicide.

You have people diagnoised with a terminal disease who know they will die and decide rather then drain their insurance companies and family members dry financially, they take their own life.

Then you have the pill poppers... the ones who die and people say, "hmm, he had to know that much cocaine mixed with heroin would kill him, right? Right?"

Then you have the chronically depressed who decide to leave a note rather then tell someone...

Then of course you have the crem de la crem... the jackass who buys a ton of guns and decides, "If I'm goin out, I'm takin a bunch of people with me".

I think all cases are obviously weighed differently and the only thing that I have to say about suicide is that it truely is a drain on the effected family members and I hope that anyone who does commit suicide understands the burden of stress (emotionally and financially) that they're leavying onto their loved ones.

I had a friend who OD'ed back in high school, had a friend in college who hung himself... the only thing I really hoped, was that they thought about the consequences of their actions before they went through with them.

I really think that if my friend Eric could have seen the way his girlfriend basically fell apart after he OD'ed and died, he never would have done it. Same goes for my friend Bobby who hung himself... just completely destroyed his family.

It's a tough subject because it's so broad. I obviously have no sympathy or remorse for the a-holes who took over the 9/11 planes and killed themselves and a ton of others. I do have to admit that I have sympathy for those who leave a note and hang themselves... I hope I never realize that level of sadness.

The thing with suicide is ya gotta think...is this gonna matter in 5 or 10 years..probably not? But I have always said if I get to a point in my life where you have to change my sh*tty ***...Please just kill me. I mean if it's gonna be permanent and I have no chance of ever coming out of it.

true story a uncle of mine got pretty messed up on a snow mobile accident in a coma paralyzed the whole bit. Well he did a ton of physical therapy and pretty much got his body in good enough shape to get his shot gun and well you know. I've got a couple stories like this in my family, is this a thing that can be passed on? are more gene pools at risk than others? I should probably be looking into this

i do'nt think suicide is hereditary, but depression for sure is. a proclivity for self-destruction tends to be as well. if your family has a history of alcoholism, keep an eye on yourself. and since oyu're a trucker, keep away from the meth (can lead to craziness if you have latent crazy genes). i don't want you to think i'm pigeonholing truckers as meth-heads, i'm not. but it is common.

ok Ill try to steer clear of the meth thing :lol: but the rest was sensible advice I will look more into this

weed (still use it for ADHD/back/knee pain)
lsd (did it like 9 times in a week and promised myself never to do it again)
shrooms (can't stand the taste anymore, not worth the gagging, would rather smoke some weed)
coke (hated it)
E (once, liked it way too much, never again, never again)

everything else is hella off limits. i'm pretty sure my drug days are behind me. i got too much responsibility. got i miss first year of university.

weed (still use it for ADHD/back/knee pain)
lsd (did it like 9 times in a week and promised myself never to do it again)
shrooms (can't stand the taste anymore, not worth the gagging, would rather smoke some weed)
coke (hated it)
E (once, liked it way too much, never again, never again)

everything else is hella off limits. i'm pretty sure my drug days are behind me. i got too much responsibility. got i miss first year of university.

Yeah same boat...did alot of acid...shrooms and stuff years ago. Mushrooms were a blast though. Now I just occasionally hit the weed.

LSD is f---ed, you can never get back to that first trip, and tha'ts why i did it so much, cuz the first trip was so crazy and i wanted that feeling again. so i just kept doing more and moer. but it's like chasing the purple dragon in south park's "heroin hero." you can almost smell it but oyu can never catch it.

luckily it didn't effect my brain as far as i can tell. i've always been astounded by people who lose their heads on drugs or get dumb as f--- when they smoke weed. i'm always very mentally present to the point that i can take care of people that are having a bad trip WHILE i'm tripping. and to the point that i did LSD by myself a few times and didn't have any problems. cept when my roommate started playing counter strike when i was trying to go to bed. the realistic sound really got to me.

LSD is f**ked, you can never get back to that first trip, and tha'ts why i did it so much, cuz the first trip was so crazy and i wanted that feeling again. so i just kept doing more and moer. but it's like chasing the purple dragon in south park's "heroin hero." you can almost smell it but oyu can never catch it.

luckily it didn't effect my brain as far as i can tell. i've always been astounded by people who lose their heads on drugs or get dumb as f**k when they smoke weed. i'm always very mentally present to the point that i can take care of people that are having a bad trip WHILE i'm tripping. and to the point that i did LSD by myself a few times and didn't have any problems. cept when my roommate started playing counter strike when i was trying to go to bed. the realistic sound really got to me.

Acid was always kinda touch and go...the first trip was a blast though. But Mushrooms...Just laugh your *** off and ya can drink tons of beer and not feel it. Always wanted to try E...but never have. I hear the sex is pretty good.

I'm with Ken Casey (dude who wrote "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" and the subject of "The Electric Acid Kool-Aid Test") -

drugs only show you what you're capable of - you can accomplish the same things (provided you figure out how) sober as you can when you're intoxicated, regardless of the toxin.

point of fact - I don't need alcohol to slur, fall over, hurl in a taxi and have reckless encounters with questionable women...

morphine and heroin were popular drugs out this way about 10 years ago. People who inject themselves for the cultural capital. I don't know if they felt it made them more like Kurt Cobain or William S Burroughs or what the deal was, but it didn't help.

Back to the subject at hand: suicide is the ultimate form of self-destructive behaviour - drug abuse is a milder one that can lead you there.

^^ for sure. but same goes for if you're depressed and do nothing all day.

exactly - but drugs are still toxins (hence intoxication) and using them a lot (i.e. abusing them) is bad for your body - liver & brain in particular - which is the self-destructive thing I was getting at.