Re: Turistas y embargos

What Dan Christensen completely snipped as it didn't fit his outburst
of propaganda lies.
Flagrantly violating all rules of net-etiquette Dan Christensen
removes a complete message, changes the header and starts his
propaganda to ruin a thread.
This is "snip, lie, insult and run" take to its most extreme limit.

actually, the serial liar and Castro apologist Dan Christensen wrote
(Dan decided he needed to get away from his totally discredited name
and handle of the past, a typical propagandist ploy to confuse people)

again Dan Christensen shows what a hypocrite liar he is.
He is the one doing the "attacking" with his lies and slander.
As all can see I only post this piece that exposes his lies when he
has started his slanderous attacks.
That by the way is in general within a couple of exchanges on the
facts of the case involved as by then he is so stuck that he has to
resort to lies and insults.

Dan Christensen knows I am not a lobbyist and that it is all just a
slander campaign.
As a good follower of Goebbels he keeps repeating his lies in the hope
that something will stick and that he maybe can mislead some people
that
don't know what he is all about.
Desperate Dan Is doing his bit in the slander campaign of the "rat
pack"
he is associated with. The contribution of his pals at the Centre
Ernesto Che Guevara in this group recently just shows what Dan and his
cronies are all about: lies, insults, slander and intimidation.

Actually: given your actions in the past Dan you fit the lobbyist
profile a lot closer.

You contact people in support of the Cuban regime and with the aim to
have them change the content of their website or change public
statements. You even pose as a "journalist" or "researcher" while
doing so.
The fact that you have been utterly unsuccessful at it and that only
your website suffered the removal of pages just shows what a bad
lobbyist you are.

Your Club Med, lobbying, CIA lies are exposed again

Links to the threads Dan produces his "lobbyist" misquotes from and
the exposure of his lies by others:

The lies of Dan Christensen about me that were exposed:
- his lie about me playing golf to "lobby": exposed. Dan Christensen
had to admit there were no quotes to support any of that.
- his lie about singles resorts and schmoozing: exposed as various
people stated that it is merely a family resort that even had a circus
school for children
- his lie about me being in Varadero: exposed as Dan Christensen had
to admit I never said I was there
- his lie that it were all "CIA junkets" exposed as Dan Christensen
ran like hell when he realized that this lie could expose him to legal
sanctions
- his lie that I had "self-confessed" anything: exposed by people that
put the snippets Dan Christensen abusively posts in context (as shown
in this message)
All Dan Christensen's lies have been exposed by various people.

as I said comrade
Dan: whenever you post your lies about me I post the truth about you.
Your record of lies, innuendo, insults and support of human rights
abuses discredits you.
All shame you brought on yourself by your attitude and actions.

The exposure of the "lobbyist" lie in further detail.

Dan Christensen's abuse of misquotes has been exposed over and over
again. He just aped the lie of another apologist that dropped that
specific lie very quickly. The guy is indeed smarter than stupid Dan.
When Dan Christensen tried to come up with his own "new and
improved" version of the lie he fell flat on his face.
He claimed I had been "lobbying" people In Geneva while his Rat Pack
pal "cuba libre" that stalked me then showed from an IP address from
which I had posted something that I was in Santiago de Cuba at the
time. One Rat Pack member exposing another's lies with the result of
his cyber stalking. Ironic.

Below you will find what is behind Dan Christensen's slanderous
campaign: facts he can't deny.

- Frustration

I exposed Dan Christensen as a fraud in this group years ago when I
blew his "cover". In SCC he tried to portray himself as an
"independent
interested party" with no political agenda.
When I came across a blatantly different reply to a similar question
in a Stalinist e-group to which I had been invited I posted it to show
his lying hypocrisy.
Since then he has been pissed as hell as it undermined his lying
propaganda effort to mislead "those in the background" (his own words,
those that didn't have "local knowledge". He himself admitted in the
same e-group that propagandist like him can never "convince" those
with "local knowledge". In frequent exchanges he got some mad he often
forgot to keep up the pretense and made him show his hand and true
nature:

Quote:
"In my opinion the advances made by the Revolution are morally well
worth fighting for and justify the use of these extraordinary
measures. In this case, the ends do indeed justify the means.
....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
These measures, however, would NOT be morally justified in propping
less worthy regimes in the region -- the USA and its vassal states in
the
Caribbean and Latin America come immediately to mind."

"It is wrong to think that a particular end justifies EVERY means. At
this time, for example, it would be wrong of the Cuban government to
send death squads after their opponents as happens in Mexico and
Colombia. Again, the actions of the Cuban government in detaining
these so-called dissidents seem quite mild in comparison and are
morally justified under the circumstances."

Then there is the issue of his lying website: acting with a third
person I had pages removed (for violations of law, slander, ...), I
have shamed him in to changing it on
various occasions (adding links that would then expose his lies,
remove lying caption from pictures, ...) and I have in general exposed
the lies on it (on Amnesty International for example)

where the only thing Amnesty international asks for "immediately and
unconditionally" is the release of political prisoners.

Quote:

"in 1.
"On the basis of the available information, therefore, Amnesty
International considers the 75 dissidents to be prisoners of
conscience
(2) and calls for their immediate and unconditional release."

In 8.1
" to immediately and unconditionally release the 15 prisoners
previously named by Amnesty International as prisoners of conscience.

" to immediately and unconditionally release anyone else who is
detained or imprisoned solely for having peacefully exercised their
rights to freedom of expression, association and assembly."
end of quote

- Dogmatic hatred.

Dan Christensen is a hard-line Stalinist. His first steps in SCC were
to defend Stalin and in other forums he has praised "workers
democracy" under Stalin.
He has admitted that he is ready to fight to the last Cuban (from his
comfortable armchair in Canada) for his cause.
By posting the reports from the international press, human rights
organizations and Cuban independent journalists I have exposed his
propaganda as a lie. That makes the man wild with rage.
As he like to see himself as the "victim" (he once claimed he was
being censored in SCC) he therefore lashes out at people claiming that
those that contradict him are "CIA" agents (as if the CIA would care
about a third rate liar as Dan) and professional "lobbyists" probably
to make himself feel that he is "important" and to explain away his
complete propaganda failure (portraying himself as "overcome by
unsurmountable institutional odds").

- Personal hate and the "rat pack"

Dan has suffered the trauma of having part of his website remove
after a long battle over the personal attacks and falsifications he
had posted there.
The frequent exposures of his lies and hypocrisy only fueled the
personal hatred.
Dan ganged up with various other propagandists that people that have
been attacked by them refer to as the "rat pack". I have been the
target of the lies and slanderous insults of this "rat pack".
They specialize in online slander (from posting private information,
attacking their business or businesses they are associated with,
inciting others to harass people, over accusing people of being "CIA
agents" or "lobbyists" to the worst things one can imagine) and direct
harassment (phone calls, letters, letters with razor blade or white
powder, loitering in front of people's houses,.. up to death threats
in France).
All they succeeded in doing was to dramatically increase traffic to a
website I participate in ( www.cubaverdad.net ) and to suffer the
consequences of their slander.
Dan Christensen had part of his website removed. The Centre Che in
France had their complete website removed and their "secretary" known
here as "cubalibre" real name François Valy was sentenced to 6 months
in
jail for a whole series of abuses (including racism). A Spanish
"subsidiary" of the rat pack still has a surprise coming.
All because of their lies were exposed.

But then in the end this is what it boils down to: those that don't
have rational arguments find themselves exposed as the liars they are.
When that happens all they have left are the old
slander tactics: they attack the people that expose their lies in the
hope that they can intimidate them.
If Dan Christensen felt he had any chance to convince people directly
he would try to do so by posting facts and arguing facts.
He is reduced to snipping, posting the same snippets over and over
again, lies and slander.
As long as he and the rest of the "rat pack" (and their hangers on)
are reduced to that they expose" their own failure as Dan Christensen
does here every time.
Fine by me.

this cheap imitation (snip)

Not mine, no imitation.
An original that tops google search rankings.
Yours is "invisible".
In fact it has the word Cubafaq on, it 3 times.
You are just trying to hget on the "bandwagon" with the nmae.

My CubaFAQ website(snip)

Your website isn't even called Cubafaq in its title.
It also has had to remove lots of content after complaints about lies
and slander.

what we have seen is that you are a liar, Dan Christensen.

These cruel sanctions can,
therefore, even be seen as a form of genocide under international law!

(snip)

that is just your lie Dan Christensen. [snip]

No lies, Mr. Lobbyist. Just an inconvenient truth for you and your
fellow embargo-Nazis.

A lie you yourself has exposed for the last 10 years by failing to
post even ONE quote from a reputable international organization
referring to the trade sanctions as "genocide".

[snipping more of PL same old serving lies and rationalizations]

Still in denial, (snip)

Nope.
Still dealing with facts, Facts you desperately snip

The facts on his utterly exposed "genocide" claim:

These are the facts:

Cuba itself cut own on both purchases of food and medicines even
though they were fully licensed.

Medical exports
"The U.S. says it approved $142 million in commercial and donated
medical exports to the communist island in 2008. So why did less than
1 percent of it get there?"
"It's not the embargo," said John Kavulich, a senior policy adviser
at the New York-based U.S.-Cuba Economic Trade Council, which provides
nonpartisan commercial and economic information about Cuba. "These
are economic and political decisions not to buy."
Cuba often waits for allies to donate what it needs, Kavulich said.
"They'd rather get things for free than pay for them."
It's unclear why U.S. medical exports aren't reaching Cuba | News for
Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Headline | International News
(5 December 2009)http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/world/stories/DN-embargo_05int.ART.State.Edition1.4bbb4d0.html

The U.S.-Cuba Trade and Economic Council's purpose is to provide an
efficient and sustainable educational structure in which the United
States business community may access accurate, consistent, and timely
information and analysis on matters and issues of interest regarding
United States-Republic of Cuba commercial, economic, and political
relations.
The U.S.-Cuba Trade and Economic Council does not take positions with
respect to United States-Republic of Cuba political relations.http://www.cubatrade.org/COUNCIL.pdf

here anyone can see nearly 250 articles going back 10 years that show
how respected the man is and all can also see he is not "anti-Castro"
as Dan Christensen falsely claims:

The 1948 Geneva Convention on Genocide article 2 is quoted in a very
misleading way by serial liar Dan Christensen:.
The text: (1)
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts
committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national,
ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life
calculated
to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
The text requires that the acts listed under a-e have been committed
with "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical,
racial or religious group".
In the case of the US trade sanctions this is clearly not the case.
The USA is Cuba's 5th trading partner (2) and largest food supplier
(3).
Cuba depends on food imports for 80% of total food consumption and
for
84% of the food distributed in the rationing system in place since
1962 (4).
These food imports total between 2 and 2.5 billion US dollars (5).
The
US provided in 2008 about a third of imported food in Cuba: over 700
million dollars and the US has soled over 4.4 billion dollars of food
since 2001 (6).
That means the US provided about 27% (80/3) of Cuba's food
consumption
in 2008 while the national agriculture only provided 20%.
Now: would a nation that wanted to destroy another nations' people
provide it with 27% of its food?
No.
As far as the sale of medical products: Cuba purchased only 1.2
million
dollars in 2008, but in fact deals for a total of 143 million were
duly
licensed by the US government. Cuba did not go through with 99% of
the
fully licensed deals. An expert stated that these were deliberate
political and economic decisions not to buy as Cuba prefers to get
the
goods for free(7).
Indeed: Cuba is in fact unable to pay for the imports its people
needs.
It has defaulted on various loans for years now (from way before the
financial crisis) and currently has not paid suppliers for over a
year
with debts standing at $ 1 billion. It has had to cut purchases of
food
from the US by 32% for 2009 (8).
The accusation of "genocide"is also rather hypocrite as the genocide
watchdog "Genocide Watch" has the Castro regime on its list of
genocidal
regimes for its abuses against the people based on the same article 2
of
the convention (9).
(1) Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of
Genocide
Genocide, Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of
-
- Prevent Genocide Internationalhttp://www.preventgenocide.org/law/convention/text.htm
(2) Cuba's declining trade betrays depth of its crisis
"The United States, which is Cuba's fifth trading partner despite its
47-year-old trade embargo against the island, said sales to Cuba
totaled
$383.8 million through August, down 23 percent."
Cuba's declining trade betrays depth of its crisis | Reuters (20
October
2009)http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-Cuba/idUSTRE59J5A620091020?sp=truehttp://cubadata.blogspot.com/2009/10/cubas-declining-trade-betrays-depth-of.........html
(3)Reuteman: The Cuba question: To trade or not to trade?
"In 2005, the United States became the island's biggest food
supplier."
Reuteman: The Cuba question: To trade or not to trade?
January 14, 2006http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/business_columnists/article/0,1299,DRMN_82_4387989,00.html

again Dan Christensen is trying to put words in other people's mouth
based on misquotes snipped the facts and the quote from Castro
confirming that Dan is no more than a desperate liar.
Another misquote to end the series.

all experts agree, Dan, that Cuba needs to reform its agriculture
before any increase in production is possible.
Even Raul Castro has admitted that.

The problem is: for dogmatic reasons his market reforms are falling
far short of what is needed to revitalize food production even for the
local people.
Cuba, before Castro, was a net food exporter and can be that again
given structural reform as even your expert stated. No change in
regulation, no realization of potencial.

"``The Cuban climate is very good, has good resources, and an
agricultural system with potential,'' Messina said. ``But the truth is
that we don't see big trends toward its development in terms of
regulation.''"

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