I noticed that Mikl's rather gnarly old carrot on this route at Trackside Wall has been replaced in recent years. Has anybody actually repeated it and if so, how hard did you find it?

PS The reason I ask is that Andrew Lindblade and I tried it back in 1988 and Andrew snapped off two crystals up by the bolt that did seem rather crucial. We thought it a bit stiff for 21 even before the holds came off.

Cheers people. Thought it was a bit harder than 21 but we were obviously just too crap back then. Might stick it on my hit list for next year just to clean up an old ghost (there aren't many things under 24 in the Youies I haven't done but this is one.)

On 2/10/2005 Rupert wrote:>Went up and had a look at Drugs over London today at the overlap, anybody>climbed it?

Finally did DOL back in 92 on a visit. One of the best routes in the park IMHO. I was thinking in English grades at the time and thought E4 6a/6b which makes it 23-ish I think. The crux is a fun sequence getting past the second bolt to reach the upper flake. I seem to recall having problems sorting my feet out to make the final 'udge' to reach the flake.

On 2/10/2005 Rupert wrote:>Went up and had a look at Drugs over London today at the overlap, anybody>climbed it?

yeah, another great route ,and its overhanging! quite nervracking pulling over the top too with only the bolts clipped. you could probably get some gear in at the top, but i didn't hang around long enough to look