People that do Wing Chun, by and large, cannot fight their way out of a wet paper bag. Is that helpful?

Yes, to a certain degree, thank you. But, as my title suggests, what *should* I do? As I said, I am looking for self-defence only, really. A lot of posts suggest MT or Judo are good choices, but some posts also higlight the fact that judo will train you more for competition than real-life.

I came here to get help sorting through the bullshit and to save me wasting time and effort. I appreciate your help with this.

are you really that dense? Look at this thread and tell me what percentage of the people you see do BJJ/MT. Is it more or less than 100%?

No - I am not that dense. I am a newbie. I did read posts concerning Wing Chun, and it seemed that most people replying (and saying WC was crap) seemed to be into BJJ/MT. If this is not the case generally, I was mistaken. Again my apologies, just a newbie trying to avoid abuse long enough to get good advice...

Yes, to a certain degree, thank you. But, as my title suggests, what *should* I do? As I said, I am looking for self-defence only, really. A lot of posts suggest MT or Judo are good choices, but some posts also higlight the fact that judo will train you more for competition than real-life.

I came here to get help sorting through the bullshit and to save me wasting time and effort. I appreciate your help with this.

Judo or Muay Thai would be fine. Or, better yet, do both!

"No. Listen to me because I know what I'm talking about here." -- Hannibal

This place will eat you alive, but can be helpful too, it is a full contact forum remember.

I would not start Martial Arts with a Wing Whatever variant. You have no reference point to judge if you are recieving Bullshido or not. Start with Judo or Boxing. If those are not to tuff on you move up to something more painful like MT or BJJ.

Unless there is an EBMAS program in your area........

"If anything is gained from this, it should be you both wanting to get better so you can make up for how crappy you are now." KidSpatula about the Sirc vs DTT Gong Sau Event