His "before" pics suggest that he would have made a pretty lady had he been born one, too. Jaw restructuring and similar/related surgeries give me the same feeling when I read of them that I get when fingernails scrape a chalk board. Think of a wood rasp moving over bone.

I read about so many MtF transitions where they were already married with kids that I question whether such people are 'truly' that way from birth. The seed may be there, but in at least some it doesn't come out until well into adulthood.

Please note that this isn't a blame thing, it's more of a psychological thing. Same deal with being gay - I think that while most are that way from birth, I also figure that there are borderline cases where if we were more open with bisexuality they'd be bisexual, who truly aren't gay until they hit some point around 30-40, but proceed to reinterpret their memories to view themselves as always having been gay. A side effect of this is that they repress for about a decade after that, generally lasting until the last kids reach adulthood themselves. Well, they always were, at least a little, but not so much they couldn't have a heterosexual relation enough to marry and have a family with a number of kids.

One thing to remember is that being gay doesn't mean that you don't want kids. The desire for children remains.

Well good for shim. As a man, he was marginal at best. I'm not an accurate judge of female attractiveness, but as long as she's more than a 1.5 or a 2, then that's an incredible improvement in physical attractiveness.

Hope he finds happiness masquerading as a female. I am not interested in having an intimate relationship with another male so even if a guy gets implants, has his tackle taken off and has a hole formed in his abdomen and (as in this case) has his face reworked I wouldn't be interested. Now my friend Mac, on the other hand . . .

The "before" images show the very obvious effects of years of estrogen therapy. He looked like a very butch lesbian already, and I guarantee he wasn't born that way. No one in the department realized? Case of the boiling frog, or typical Daily Fail re-interpretation?

I hope he wasn't husky-voiced before, unless his lovers have a Dr. Girlfriend fetish....