Actually, we don't have "presidents" here. We have a Prime Minister. And no, he's a Neanderthal who thinks that climate change is crap. Unfortunately, Rupert Murdoch and the shock jocks managed to convince a small majority of the voting buffoonery that he was worthy of electing.

Nice little red herring there, but it doesn't change the facts or the science.

You really are a fucking idiot. I don't believe in man-made global warming for political reasons. I believe in it because of the overwhelming scientific consensus that it is real. Many people on both sides of politics believe the same thing. It also happens that I support (and voted for) the party which, inter alia, introduced a carbon tax (read "pollution tax") while in government and was planning to transition this to a market based Emissions Trading Scheme if it was re-elected.

Unfortunately it wasn't re-elected, so we now have the equivalent of your republican Tea Party running the show, and they're about to tear it all down. And its boofheads like you who voted them. Oh well, that's democracy for ya.

Oww name calling, I just posted arguments from highly regarded scientists. Disagree that's fine, but it obviously is NOT overwhelming evidence. That is my point, I could change my mind on the subject, but I think the subject is not fully understood, I am always skeptical of people who think they know every thing. As far as the usa goes; I think we will be ok , by the way we are a representative Republic. At least there are a few politicians that are concerned about spending more tax dollars than what comes in. if you read any thing on the global warming subject then how do YOU explain why the earth has cooled over the last 15 years, your idles say the heat is trapped in the ocean, what say you?

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..... people who refuse to even consider the scientific evidence interpreted by the true experts, i.e. climate scientists.......are quite happy to believe any ratbag conspiracy theory which comes along, but not true scientific opinion.

Oww name calling, I just posted arguments from highly regarded scientists

They aren't.

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That is my point, I could change my mind on the subject, but I think the subject is not fully understood

You won't change your mind, and I don't give a shit whether you do...but I think you should consider information from more reliable sources. You seem to think that no-one else understands the subject but you.

The IPCC says the earth has cooled over the last 15 years they no longer dispute that, now they say the heat has been trapped in the oceans, you need to quite being so ideological and bone up on CURRENT facts. So have fun and argue with your prime minister at least he has an open mind.

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btw, the experts have been proven wrong at least half the time so what they say is always suspect.

From the institute of expertology: TV is a medium where a person who is wrong at least half the time is interviewed by another person whose chief qualification is that he has no opinion on the subject. From this encounter the truth is supposed to emerge.

From the institute of expertology: TV is a medium where a person who is wrong at least half the time is interviewed by another person whose chief qualification is that he has no opinion on the subject. From this encounter the truth is supposed to emerge.

I only wish the bolded part were actually true. If the individuals working for the various news sources were capable of complete objectivism then this entire debate would not even exist.

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my point exactly, Edison, fired Tesla, and said AC will never work for the public, Nuclear explosions were once thought to never end so they were very skeptical, tomatoes were once thought to be poisons. The world was thought to be flat, moving faster than the speed of sound was thought impossible, climate change has never been denied it is obvious, BUT co2 induced into the atmosphere by man is still up for debate , it is NOT a for gone conclusion !!!

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From the institute of expertology: TV is a medium where a person who is wrong at least half the time is interviewed by another person whose chief qualification is that he has no opinion on the subject. From this encounter the truth is supposed to emerge.

duchamp wrote:

I only wish the bolded part were actually true.

Right. It should read: another person whose chief qualification is that he/she voices only the opinions of the Network.

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my point exactly, Edison, fired Tesla, and said AC will never work for the public, Nuclear explosions were once thought to never end so they were very skeptical, tomatoes were once thought to be poisons. The world was thought to be flat, moving faster than the speed of sound was thought impossible, climate change has never been denied it is obvious, BUT co2 induced into the atmosphere by man is still up for debate , it is NOT a for gone conclusion !!!

I wonder if we're better off knowing the world is round.

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The IPCC says the earth has cooled over the last 15 years they no longer dispute that, now they say the heat has been trapped in the oceans, you need to quite being so ideological and bone up on CURRENT facts. So have fun and argue with your prime minister at least he has an open mind.

Our Prime Minister has an open mind?! That shows how much you know about that issue. He actually said he thought climate change was "crap". Is that what you call an open mind? Do you agree with that statement?

As far as the IPCC quote is concerned, can you show us all the source of that info? Looks to me that it may have been cherry-picked from some report or other...out of context to the rest of the report, as is the usual form with deniers.

Good lord the ipcc is the entity that has been driving YOUR opinion, that is why it is so interesting. They are not giving up the man caused global warming theory; just that the pesky little fact that the earth has cooled over all during the last 15 years, they explain it by saying the heat is trapped in the oceans, so... I can only surmise that your opinions are based on very little scientific knowledge if you are not aware of this.

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Good lord the ipcc is the entity that has been driving YOUR opinion, that is why it is so interesting. They are not giving up the man caused global warming theory; just that the pesky little fact that the earth has cooled over all during the last 15 years, they explain it by saying the heat is trapped in the oceans, so... I can only surmise that your opinions are based on very little scientific knowledge if you are not aware of this.

This is so much bullshit, its not even funny. The Earth hasn't cooled over the last 15 years and I defy you to show me the evidence from any IPCC report that is has. You're probably relying once again on bullshit interpretations from the clowns you seem to pay attention to.

Have you read any of the IPCC reports? I haven't, but I've read a couple of summaries and they concur with the generally accepted scientific opinion. If you read any of the IPCC stuff you might at least stop and consider that maybe your boofheaded sources aren't so reliable after all.

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