Originally posted by Dazz LMFAO ATi optimized and people including Futuremark considered it cheating does that change anything from what nVIDIA did? So ATi optimizes = cheat, nVIDIA 'optimizes' = no cheat, sorry you are contradicting yourself.

I didn't contradict myself...did you see me saying ATI cheated? Take your fanboy glasses off, what ATI did was fine by me as well, I'm all for getting better performance for nothing, no matter how it's done...