From: VITRIOL Area: THE_OASIS
To: Michael Lee 25 Sep 92 23:36:46
Subject: Re: Fascism U.S.A. Sent UpdReq
-=> Michael Lee sent a message to Gerald Del Campo on 20 Sep 92 18:15:12 <=-
-=> Re: Re: Fascism U.S.A. <=-
Hi, Mike.
ML> Give me just one, _just one_ example of a
ML> "dictator" who has been in similar circumstances.
Adolf Hitler?
... And by came an angel who had a bright key
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From: VITRIOL Area: THE_OASIS
To: James Beno 25 Sep 92 23:38:14
Subject: Re: Fascism U.S.A. Sent UpdReq
-=> James Beno sent a message to Michael Lee on 23 Sep 92 13:05:29 <=-
-=> Re: Re: Fascism U.S.A. <=-
JB> Jerry Brown for president!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
Wasn't he Shirley MacLaine in his last life?
... Every honest man is a Prophet
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From: Mors Justi Area: THE_OASIS
To: All 21 Sep 92 23:54:16
Subject: PMRC and all that rot... UpdReq
Hey, I'm not worried about the PMRC stickering rap music records, heavy
metal records, et alia, ad nauseum...the reason why I'm not worried about that
is because they're all really smart bitches from Hell and they know that
stickering doesn't do much good and that it's old hat. Democrats have to keep
up with the times in order to keep up their image, remember? And so the thing
today isn't so much the music industry, as the MOVIE INDUSTRY. Specifically,
horror. They're pally-pal with the Jack Valenti and the MPAA now. But hold on,
wait for it.
Do you see a pattern? They're changeable, but they're very consistent.
First, rock music. They got everyone from the forties generation stirred up
and forming even more pernicious, repressive and sneaky "values" groups of
their own, and ducked out. Now they've got their fingers in horror movies. You
thuink Blockbuster came up with that "family viewing" kick on their own? Still
not too threatening, but the trend has been set. Now there'll be a whole bunch
of cinematic killjoys and watchdog groups popping up, especially now that the
Republican conservative era is drawing to a close. It will be about ten years
before we purge conservativism from the governemnt, and by then probably
another Republican regime will start up. But for now, Tipper and Company will
work their mischief, and then move on to something else. I'm scared to think
on what! First, rock music, then horror movies, and if I don't miss my guess
they'll probably go after comics. They seem to me like over-protective parents
operating on the level of government.
And there are a lot of people saying Paganism, Wicca and satanism in the
same breath. How much do you want to bet that good old Tipper and her bitches
are gonna come after us while we're out here, pissing and moaning and saying,
"It doesn't matter to me what they do to rap music because I don't like it
anyway." We'll sure as hell care when they go on CNN, C-Span, MTV, Fox and
other big networks and start snarling about those bloody Pagans (term generic
and all the more horrific for that) and how they are corrupting the youth of
America into running around naked, worshipping animals, speaking against the
Xtian Church and generally turning this fine country of ours into a hotbed of
wanton, heathen wastefulness.
Now we know it's not true, but we're talking abotu politicians and their
whitebread family-values dupes here.
It stands to reason, doesn't it? I mean, going after people of the Craft
and the Earth is VERY Traditionally American, yes?
Watch out, my Brothers and Sisters. Stop yelling "Never agina the
burning!" and watch out now, because those who would burn us in a few years
are out there making as much noise as we are RIGHT NOW.
Never Thirst, Mors Justi
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From: Vere Chappell Area: THE_OASIS
To: Gerald Del Campo 25 Sep 92 13:48:10
Subject: MUSIC CENSORSHIP UpdReq
I think it's interesting to note that Ice-T's "Cop Killer" has had TREMENDOUS
exposure since all the fuss was raised. Rather than keeping it from the
American public, the efforts of the censors resulted in a barrage of free
nationwide advertising by the news media. Many played the song in whole or
in part, and lots of radio stations played it more in protest than they would
have otherwise. I'm sure that lots of people ran out to buy it, too, because
of the controversey. I'm not saying that censorship is good, but if we look
at this case in particular, it did a lot more good so far as spreading
awareness to every living room in America beyond just the listeners of that
particular brand of rap.
What's scary is the censorship that goes on QUIETLY, behind the scenes, and
you never even know it's censored. Such euphemisms as "community standards"
and "industry guidelines" have axed a great deal more than we hear about. Not
to mention the real important stuff besides art, like information about what
the government is REALLY doing. Ignorance is a big industry here.
Just my $.02. 93 -- Vere
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From: Max Delysid Area: THE_OASIS
To: All 26 Sep 92 11:19:58
Subject: my conspiritorial mind at work... UpdReq
heres a thought...
Bill Clinton wins
Bill Clinton makes good on a campaign promise and starts a nationwide
government subsidised health care system.
the adminstrators of this sytem, in order to make it more CONVENIENT, issue
mag-strip cards with every citizens Health Plan ID info encoded on the back.
Hospitals and other health care organizations restructure themselves to depend
upon a patient having this card.
in effect, every american man, woman, and child has a NEW federal number
attached to them - without all the legislated privacy hassles the the TIN
(SSN) has.
what if, since they are not specifically disallowed to do so, other government
agencies start using the Health Plan ID to identify you. It'd be mighty
convenient for the FBI to track someone by their health care patterns.
... and you'd have to be awful brave to use someone elses card.
look to the future: one world, one people, one card, one ID #
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