i guess if it were to happen,the 9mm. I you just go to a range, and punch paper, other than recoil, you probably dont notice much difference in the 3. We shoot .9mm/.40/.45 out behind the barn alot. Shoot up car doors / logs / stacks of books / whatever..And i can tell you from actual personal experience....The 9mm does ALOT less damage to those items than the .40, or .45...

i guess if it were to happen,the 9mm. I you just go to a range, and punch paper, other than recoil, you probably dont notice much difference in the 3. We shoot .9mm/.40/.45 out behind the barn alot. Shoot up car doors / logs / stacks of books / whatever..And i can tell you from actual personal experience....The 9mm does ALOT less damage to those items than the .40, or .45...

Ugh......

Here we go.

Before a caliber war gets started, modern JHPs from 9mm to 45acp do pretty close to the same amount of damage to human tissue.

But you keep posting that chart, and I honestly see quite a difference in cavities between 9mm and all the other calibers it lists.

They all penetrate roughly equal. So with equal penetration why wouldn't you want a bigger wound cavity? Based on your precious chart there is a significant difference between 9mm and the others. The others are pretty close but 9 looks puny in comparison.

So I'm thinking I'll take one (or three) for the team and say "all of the above". I'll report back as to which small piece of fast moving metal hurts the most and then we can talk about something else for a little while.

They all penetrate roughly equal. So with equal penetration why wouldn't you want a bigger wound cavity? Based on your precious chart there is a significant difference between 9mm and the others. The others are pretty close but 9 looks puny in comparison.

You're probably looking at the temporary cavity. At handgun velocities most tissues (with a few exceptions like the heart or the liver) move aside from the temporary cavity and then move back into place with little to no damage. It's usually only with a rifle round that the wound cavity rips muscle tissues etc. if you're interested, the link I keep posting with that picture http://www.ar15.com/ammo/project/Self_Defense_Ammo_FAQ/index.htm is a very detailed article on the subject with a lot of other sources to back their info up in the article and on the website. Lots of before/after pics of JHPs and their mushrooms too if you like that kind of thing.

I can tell differences from bullet to bullet in that pic, but they're not as dramatic as people like to portray them.

I keep posting that pic so that I can do my part to educate the gun toting population sir. ;-) 1 thread at a time.........

My cousin was shot by his father in law at point blank range. He had a small scar in the chest. The scar in the back was a star burst about the size of an medium size apple. He had no ill affects from it. My dad was shot by a teenager with a 22 rifle just below the hairline above the eyes. It went around the scalp and went out just below the hairline in the back. My dad and the kid was shooting at turtles on a creek and the kid was above him.

I forgot to mention that my cousin was shot with a 357 magnum. He was raised in west Texas and was pretty tough. That was in early 70s. Not sure how he's doing now.