It's pretty much already neutered crap at this point anyway so they don't have much room to really complain, not that they have any goal other than killing all non-Californian and Canadian game development studios anyway but still.

So how long until they start eating each other again and have to start yet another site?

These idiots alway touted themselves as having some conversation with industry figures, but ideological signalling was always more important. Never forget they b& Tom from Xseed for having the absolute gall to politely disagree that all games neoFAGs don't like should be nuked, butchered and/or outright banned. I'm sure someone around here has the screencaps. He was being far more polite and respectful when everyone was shitting all over him. Always gets a Kelly outta me.

I spend the last 30 minutes trying to make a 'good' shitpost, but there's too much garbage to cover at once, I can't even focus on them wanting to be a woman who routinely can't solve problems who gets sent to safe spaces. There's other shit here like them not wanting perverts, yet also wanting to fuck the MC, so do they just want goddamn asexuals with no sexual identity to begin with?

Any of you sleeper shills have an idea of the actual userbase/activity levels of resetera? They must've lost a big chunk of the neofag population just with the happening and the move, and then they immediately began a user cull that I imagine has persisted to this day alongside culling spikes like during that subnautica bullshit.

>Westerners who can't even manage to get their own houses in order think they have the chops to tell a Japanese game studio how to make Japanese games.

Doesn't this violate their SJW code of ethics or something? Like some kind of "White Savior" complex or Cultural Appropriation? Why can't they just fuck off and stop putting these ideas in the nips heads that it completely fucking over their own games will somehow lead to greater sales, when they know damned well it won't. Just let them make nip games for nip audiences, translate it accurately, and if they don't like it - don't play it. There's a lot of games I would probably find much easier to get into if they made substantial changes to the gameplay formula - but I'm not shedding any tears over not getting to "experience" them, because I have enough games that I do like already that keep me busy and I have better things to do than to go around like an entitled soygolem making demands that just fuck up other people's fanbases.

I wonder how the infiltration has shaken out? You think the rapefugees who tried raiding /v/ in the immediate aftermath of NeoFAG's death tore each other apart trying to figure out who among them were traitors?

I was thinking the same thing, but then again as per common imageboard culture (*aside from Mark's extreme cum guzzling), you're kind of expected to disagree and shit on other users from time to since everyone's so abrasive, and people don't get banned for disagreements with the majority*. What's more, having contrarian opinions gives you plenty of attention, so that kind of behavior is sort of fomented.

The best way to understand how these people operate is the Ass Creed motto, "nothing is true, everything is permitted". The dipshits writing those games straight up tell you how they all think and act.

I honestly forgot NeoGAF died. I figured it would somehow stay float like Kotaku and Gawker did because these people are rats who always find a piece of wood to cling to. I guess that makes sense they'd just go infest somewhere else.

No, it's not. I tells you right at the bottom that they're not dictating what Atlus should do and instead they're just (((suggesting))) it even though every sentence is worded like they're demanding it and that the game is bad for not abiding to it :^)

In a way it still is, just not as much as it was before. Funnily enough, the quality of GAF has gone up after the implosion since all the rats moved on to Resetera. It's still a hot garbage site, but it's amusing nonetheless.

I like how the 4th from the bottom on the left was actually implemented in 5 but whoever made the image was to dumb to notice, further supporting the theory that the complaints on this list are coming from people who haven't actually played the game

I know you're shitposting but let me elaborate. Feedback is only ever useful if it points out exactly where the problem is, why it's problematic and how it helps improve it instead of just making a bunch of "do this because." Compiling it in an infograph does absolutely fucking nothing to address any of the problems. If these fucking morons think that Atlus will take it seriously they are fucking delusional.

I do want to see another attempt on deviating from the Chaos-Law crap without it turning into a Chaosfag wetdream. DeSu made me think it was going for the idea that ideology doesn't matter if you are all going die in a week then the Demon King ending turn into Super Power of Friendship Ending - Chaosfag Edition.

> If these fucking morons think that Atlus will take it seriously they are fucking delusional.

Why not, Bioware takes them seriously. They have a taste for blood now with companies that capitulate to their wingeing - and with Japanese games on the rise, getting more popular as the western market collapses, they are starting to listen to westerners more.

Couple that with having a megaphone in the press, and insiders in localization firms, they can largely control the narrative that these nip code shops hear since not many of them seem to browse actual game forums written in a language they can't read (well) to get individual opinions.

Good points, I really hope that Japanese developers don't listen to westerners about anything. It's not that Japanese games couldn't benefit from some western critiques, it's that westerners who have media platforms can't stop shoving their politics down everyone's throats. If they got their way they'd make all japanese female game characters intentionally ugly to avoid objectification, just like how Bioware did.

Surely there must be something we can do to let these companies know that the western media doesn't speak for western fans in general.

Buy the games that don't cater, don't buy the ones that do. As gay as it is get a twitter and tell your favorite devs, if they have one, what their ACTUAL fans think. If you see your choice of devs caving then bitch at them and tell them they won't be making any money. As faggy as it is, it works for SJWs, the monkey who screams the loudest is the one who gets the banana.

The general had some decent suggestions, but also some real stinkers like

>make characters less perverted!

>no mean jokes, guys!

>muh LGBTWTFBBQ!

>muh voiced MC like in Failout 4!

>dungeons are haaaaard! make them skippable!

Confidant and Slinks section has some good suggestions honestly. I always found it a little weird there was no repercussions for dating all the girls and then fucking everyone shows up during Valentine's day. I would have made it so the game immediately goes to an optional super-boss after which you get BAD END. Combat section in it's entirety and everything pertaining to gameplay can be safely put into the trash.

Verdict: These people should not be near any Japanese games at all. Hand them any SMT game besides Persona and watch as they go into hysterics. Try harder REEEEEsetera.

For real though, how did none of these people relate to, or even just understand Adachi and his motivations? He has the best reasoning out of anyone in the modern series, and he does what he wants at the expense of others. He's perfect for them.

SJWeebs see something popular, they must, MUST consume and destroy it, also just take a gander at the the Fujoshit, especially the forced fujoshit pairings of any characters and how they react to "Canon" pairings, and you'll understand.

Why don’t they make their own characters? The same reason they don’t make their own games, or movies, or tv shows, or cultures, or anything else. Because it isn’t about having the thing they want (in this case, a gay super hero), because that isn’t really what they want. What they want, is to take away what “white males” have. To degrade, destroy, change, or out right steal what it is “white males” have and enjoy.

Again. look at games. Literally anyone can make a game, write the story, create the characters, design the system, etc. And they could do all this and make the characters they want to see in the game, be it a “demisexual polyromantic amorphorous genderfluid transotherkin feminist” or whatever other crap they come up with, with the exact type of “game” they want (i.e. no gameplay, no battles, just point and click, or listen to narration). But it isn’t about having that thing, because they don’t really want that thing, they don’t want to play games or read comics; they just want to destroy the thing that “white males” like.

You notice you never hear this crap about rap music, or thug movies, or “gang culture,” or any of that stuff. Why is that? Because, it’s not about letting these groups (fags, trannies, women, etc) be able to have something that appeals to them. Its about destroying things white males like and participate in. It’s why you see white male characters being the ones constantly changed. Thor becoming a woman. Ice man becoming gay. Spiderman becoming black. See any white women becoming men? See any blacks becoming white? See any black women becoming asian girls? Nope nope nope. It’s not even about “anti-white” at this point. It’s entirely anti-white male.

They always try to impose "hate speech" regulations into everything, don't they? Even though in reality, these regulations always turn out to be a double standard in practice. In their totalitarian utopia, you can be hyper-offensive to straights but never against faggots and trannies.

<Tone down on having pervert party members.

A sexism accusation. Probably because Morgana was eyeballing Ann a lot. Or maybe Ryuji for acting too giddy over hiring a sexy maid. Whatever the case, the feminists were unsatisfied. As always. It's futile to even try.

Alternatively, it could be another "hate speech" thing because women, like gays, are apparently a "protected" class. Needing protection against anything bad happening to them. Like "perverted" teenage boys and cats that commit the crime of… finding them attractive?

<A better localization overall.

<No more awkwardly structured sentences and weird use of honorics in the dub.

They're still mad about this? I know that they have a preference for "certain" localization teams that are guaranteed to "filter" out the problematic elements. But do they really have to be so blatant about how it wasn't censored by their preferred buddies? The dub is fine the way it is.

<An option to skip dungeons in NG+.

Again, they want a way to play a game without all that icky "gameplay". But then again… let's imagine that Persona 5 didn't have any dungeon crawling or battles at all. It would have played no differently than the thousands of basic VNs out there. Nothing special to make it stand out. And certainly not feeling like how a proper Persona game should play.

<An alternative way to assess S-links that are locked behind social stats.

Same as above. Just another way to make the game easier and gameplay-less. I guess even the social stats are too much for them to deal with now, too. If they have enough time to compile a list of nitpicks, they should realize that their proposed changes would just gut the game's overall experience. Seriously. Their vision for their perfect Persona 5 game sounds legitimately boring: VN-style gameplay with no dungeons, combat, or even stats apparently.

I think they're only interested in things that are on the spotlight and that people care about. That's why you see so many femifaggots trying to get into Dark Souls even though it has nothing they could remotely be interested in, and then bitching that it's "too hard" and it needs "skip boss button". At least Persona 5 has style, nice music, art and dating simulator shit that fags might like, Dark Souls had nothing.

Their interest doesn't lie in videogames, but in pushing an agenda onto people who consume them.

Well… there would be some girls into that and some who arn't and their S-links are dates where you try to convince them. Have an overall harem unity modifier that you increase by interacting with your girls. It'd be kinda boring with no consequences but harem is should exists, too many quality girls not to.

You should stop using anitwitter and twitch chat as a gauge for the real world.

Most normalfags anime knowledge stops at simply knowing it exists. Aside from the typical college kiddies that dabble in casual shit it's far from mainstream. If was even close to being popular all the thirsty as fuck cable networks would be broadcasting it now that they're desperate for low cost content. Even kikeflix is slowly testing the waters with anime and finding themselves producing loss leaders.

>you're a progressive. you're supposed to progress. you're supposed to be more liberal today than you were yesterday

There is no end goal. Things will never be progressive enough. It's a permanent revolution. Even when transexual muslim latinxchinxse have executed the last non-pedophile, their work still won't be finished.

The irony is that when he gets old he's also probably going to hate the "new liberal kids" like he's complaining old people do now. Ideologies that change for the sake of change have no strong foundations and are obviously self destructive.

Check his other posts, he defends some of the changes that would make it into a Memehouse "localization" that is also not being Westernized(wot?) he's either a closeted SJWeeb or he can make fun of SJWs while holding retarded opinions himself, really think it's the latter, but the rest of that thread, glad they are calling out Neofag 2.0 as Tumblr.

There's a lot of weeb dicksucking here. Liking Japan and being a weeb are two different things, mind you. I see a lot of people these days calling themselves weebs just because they watch Japanese shows.

Especially that "Japanese games usually feel Japanese".

That's not true for a lot of games, sure Yakuza and Final Fantasy are really Japanese but Bloodborne, Dragon's Dogma and Splatoon could have been made by anybody.

I was going to say you were exaggerating but fuck you made me realize it's true.

The only exception I think is vidya which only really started going down for the west in 2007 and completely died early this decade.

Japanese games died sooner I think, because they stopped being just pure video games like we had in the 90s and became weebshit, and they always had cancers like metal gear pushing cinematic garbage way before the west had it as the staple of a non-game.

>Bloodborne, Dragon's Dogma and Splatoon could have been made by anybody

<meanwhile the west gets The Last of (((Us))) ,The God of Soy and a bunch of remakes that shit on their source material

apparently not or they would have done so by now,western developers are like the western hollywood film industry;creatively bankrupt waiting for the east to make the next big thing to happen so that they can ape it save the odd runaway success

Just look what happened a few years back with the horror genre where they resorted to making shity western versions of asian horror movies completely missing the point of the originals

This is what clued me in to the huge cancer in the left, even back in the 90's and early 00's… and it also applies to all those people screaming about a second american revolution to cut out the corruption of government. Even a casual glance through history reveals that revolutions typically don't end well for the people actually calling for them. All it generally accomplishes is a turnover of the corruption at the top, just before the agitators who fought the damned thing are purged for being "disloyal". This is typically the case even in revolutions that have a strong and well defined ideological foundation - and is almost always the case in revolutions that are a result of pure emotional rage against the current state/class.

America is actually damned lucky it's revolution ended up going as well as it did, with leaders like George Washington who weren't interested in turning their war hero status into demagoguery and only a few upstart rebellions (like Shay's). Probably owing a lot to it's status as being a frontier colony with lots of space for people to run off to on the border territories to set up their own little experimental utopias - rather than having nowhere to run to and turning on the state before a national identity could be forged. We never had a figure like Napoleon rise here, or had the movement fracture and turn on itself.

Being in a state of perpetual revolution - always fighting for something that you will never gain because you're always shifting the goalposts to stay "progressive" which is just a buzzword for "Politically trendy" at this point - is a living hell for you and everyone around you that I'm genuinely surprised anybody would want.

Everything black people like these days is either created by white guys or funded by white guys. Be it GTA, Fighting games, the movies they watch, the comics they read, the social media they use, the trainers they steal and the shitty music they listen to.

Because they've got the "devs post here!' angle to work off of. It's fucking horrible, but says a lot about the state of western devs if NeoGAF and ResetEra are where those pieces of shit go to interact with the video game community.

You mean they would bother building a theater and library for inmates if they're just going to put people through a rollercoaster that tips over and throws them into a fiery oven in the end?

They even had movie nights at Auschwitz.

Just after world war 2 multiple nations investigated the so called gas chambers, and they didn't find anything. The so called gas chamber in auschwitz doesn't even have ventilation, which contradicts all of the texts that describe the "german" "gassing" methods, and would be a safety hazard for SS officers.

The only 6 million that died in ww2 are the 6 million german horses, and if you want to mourn over people dying look at the overall european death toll of the war.

He's more of a closet one or a tool if you prefer, he doesn't even know what he wants. This shit happened after the whole rapefuge crisis of Kike Mootenberg. You have no idea how many former NeoFAGgots joined in and still are a cancer or how many (current) cuckchaners loiter there.

Good, now all we need is to implement a harem route. Also, every game should require to have some parody of a leftist we can bully into suicide. Whenever this happens everyone in the crowd turns to the screen and starts clapping and congratulating the player.

What's shocking is I felt the game did a very good job with its themes and it carried those themes very strongly through to the very end of the game. I don't know what they fuck these people are talking about. The story was really fucking good and rewarded you for paying attention. The bigger twist felt a little forced with the whole switcheroo thing and basically withholding information from the player, but God damn son. The game is over 100 hours long. I can't remember the last time I finished a game where just the main quest was 100+ hours. Persona 5 was that god damn entertaining.

>I think they're only interested in things that are on the spotlight and that people care about. That's why you see so many femifaggots trying to get into Dark Souls even though it has nothing they could remotely be interested in, and then bitching that it's "too hard" and it needs "skip boss button". At least Persona 5 has style, nice music, art and dating simulator shit that fags might like, Dark Souls had nothing. Their interest doesn't lie in videogames, but in pushing an agenda onto people who consume them.

Newfags on gamefaqs are usually kids from twitter / plebbit / cuckchan(of course) and youtube so they are isnufferable shitheads but the oldies that were crypto-redditors or worse; secret neofaggots / resetera-roamers were are still far, far worse. I dunno if goons like the site at all but I wouldn't be surprised if they inflitrated it to destroy it like they always do.

How about making the protagonist a right winger that needs to summon gods and monsters from the European pagan and Christian pantheon to fight the forces of Moloch and the Jew? Would that make them lose their shit?

<Remove the main character being the fool arcana, no more snowflake syndrome

<Stop adding party members 75% into the game, front load that shit so you can develop them.

<bring back the ability for every party member to swap personas

<bring back party synergy moves

<remove the fucking navigator

<remove the mascot character

<make negotiations available at the start of the fight not after downing every enemy

<bring back P2 style group negotiations it adds character and interactions between party members

<Let bosses be affected by status ailments

If we're going to have social links make them more based around multiple people hanging out not just the MC and some others. P5 did this a bit better with the group hangout options but it should be something you can control not an event you stumble into. So you can invite multiple people together and maybe some Social links won't advance until two other non-MC party members have interacted together. I'd honestly frame it so that you don't control the MC exclusively and instead you assign people to hang out and then run the scenario. Stuff like Ulala and Baofu's interactions don't work if the MC is a third wheel.

<bring back reverse S.Links and enforce them more strictly.

<Give more than 3 options for dialogue with S.Link responses

<reduce the number of social links overall

<Don't write an after school special.

Ignore anything about representation. That doesn't make a game better. Plus these kids don't know about Jun from P2 which isn't surprising.

>have social links make them more based around multiple people hanging out

We all know Persona needs a harem route to make all the waifuing make sense. In my experience nothing brings forth as much rage and vitriolic butthurt as a male with multiple girlfriends that are aware of each other. You can't believe the eruption of asspain this causes to both women and soyboys.

>We all know Persona needs a harem route to make all the waifuing make sense

I have a solution for that Remove the waifuing alternatively have a clear relationship Social link(s) and other females are in the friends category exclusively. The dating sim logic of "everyone must be available for the MC" just gums up the works.

Holy fucked I skimmed this list and that's the microcosm of how shitty ResetEra and Neofag is/was. There's no end to their retardation.(there's one or two ideas that actually make some lick of sense, but in a sea of shit, and differing opinions, they're officially lost and never to return, unless I missread those too and they're only good for the first few words and turned to shit)

Ironically, it's how you know they're full of shit. If you were trying to make two groups of people equal, it's only right if it's equality upward, as equality downward is simply making the lives of certain people miserable simply because the other group is.

And feminism is shit because not only does it try to create equality downward through Marxism, but gender wise, they're trying to elevate themselves in areas where they either already have more rights than men, or where there's already equal rights, and it's natural social interactions that create any perceived 'inequality'.

Funnily enough, many of the groups that they champion are the purveyors of actual injustices against the other groups they defend as 'marginalized'. Islam is a shit religion that actively kills people through their religion, and they bring with them their shitty religion, which doubles as a shitty political system, and turn their host countries into backwards shitholes. This happens even when they claim they're running from their former country due to the same policies they want to implement AGAIN. Progressives do the same thing when they migrate out of the coast into areas that are/were prosperous till they bring their garbage policies and voting with them.

It's narcissism in its worst, most concentrated form. They're never wrong, it's their enemies who fuck it up every time without fail, even when they never entered the room and haven't been within a 1000 mile radius for months.

Let's be honest, they probably meant it as a 'clever' double-entendre cause they would be opposed to that too, unless it's their wife's boyfriend Jamal doing said excessive hand holding (with HIS DICK!)

Same guy but I don't think you understand the difference between being salty and suggesting a reasonable alternative (that also includes multiple romantic social links just better integrated into the story). Then again using soyboy unironically doesn't fill me with much confidence in your reasoning capacity.

LIKE FUCKING GOD! Saying ND should never make something like Crash again (they no longer have the rights anyway but that's besides the point) shows these faggots only like games cause they can walk around a fucking tech demo and feel like they're in some special convention for special individuals.

The Last of Us was in no way innovative gameplay wise (I never finished it, so I forget how the story ended up), and I assume it's heaps of cutscenes. Games like these are the western equivalent to FF XIII, long, boring, surface level complexity, and too many sequels. At least the devs realized they fucked up and at least tried with FF XV (and XIV is amazing, Yoshi P is the truest bro).

We use soyboy because it makes people like you upset. And your suggestions are shit. Harem with proper harem mechanics is the superior choice because there's too many good waifus to let them go to waste.

I actually can't find a single thing to critique with what they're saying though.

Mind you, I just skimmed over the first third of it but everything is some variation of "Make this more mature" or "Make this better". Sometimes referring to genuine problems (lack of character development, horrible translation, handholding, refusing to actually take its own themes seriously), but sometimes referring to pointless things (give us more personas pl0x) that no one would really disagree with.

Are we just making fun of it because it's Resetera thinking Atlus will listen to them, or is the funny stuff further down?

>It's like they don't understand how difficult it actually is to code.

They have no idea what goes into making a game. None at all. They don't understand programming or asset creation or project management or QA testing. They take all of this for granted.

It's like when they demand studios include, by default, both male and female player characters. To them it's just "as easy as being inclusive!" and changing the character model. None of them stop to think about

> making character design concepts

> completing focus group testing

> identifying potential VAs

> interviewing VAs to narrow it down to just one

> re-recording and editing all lines of spoken dialogue in the game that include gender-specific language relating to the MC

> creating entirely new textures and animations

> rigorously testing the new model, animations, and secondary features like hair physics to ensure they don't cause other problems

All of these people grew up in unbelievably sheltered environments in which they were conditioned to think of nobody else's work or effort except their own. If they were made to understand even a fraction of what goes into making any of the shit they enjoy on a daily basis (not just video games, but mundane shit like running water or electricity or their brand-name coffee) their fucking heads would explode.

For a FeMC they'd need to make her the one main character, which, considering the fanbase wouldn't be the WORST idea for the series, but the harem route would either become a fanfavorite wetdream, or increadibly creepy. Probably both, with EVERYONE ELSE falling into the latter category.