If I was going to do ranked matches I would get more into the min/maxing of everything. Was just asking if anyone could suggest a champ for Bot based on the ones I like to play. Like I said, I mainly try to solo top, Kat mid is just a good fall back if someone else calls top first :P

I mainly play top lane and sometimes jungle just to give you heads up.

Jarvan can do both Top lane and Jungle, according to Reignofgaming (Stonewall) J4 is a tier 2 jungle, just like Shaco/Xin/Jax/Nocturne.
Top lane he's an absolute beast once you know how to play him, Black Cleaver + Trinity Force + Last Whisper and you'll be able to 100%-0% most carries late game. He also beats Jayce top lane (You can just engage on him and you'll end up winning the trade due to his melee E being nerfed).
His mobility is very good so you can gank mid or even get a blue buff steal in. He's a solid pick that can do well against most regular top laners.
He's underplayed so not many people know how to counter him, so that's your gambit.

The other 2 are good for top lane, but can't jungle. And lately people have been shying away from AP tops, since people have been picking less tanky junglers. Rumble has one of the best winrate percentages these days so he's a solid pick, and can also build quite tanky. Same with vlad, except he works better in an AoE team composition.

Thinking of buying a new jungler,prob either skarner or trundle.
What do you guys suggest me to do?Any other one that is a must for jungling?(apart from lee I never liked him.)
I already own mumu,malph,maokai(fav one),naut and other viable junglers as ww,udyr,cho(prefer him top),mundo,I just don't quite like them tbh.
Just open to suggestion atm :P (sorry for the horrific use of english,it's 4:50am here and kinda tired ^^)
Thanks in advance

Leona has a mean stun and pretty insane defensive mechanics. I love playing her support with almost full defensive runes and talents and bug/initiate the shit out of my opponents...quite fun. I've never played Zyra so can't comment on that.

I'm quite sure Skarner is not only easier to do well with but just simply, plainly stronger.

Debatable. Trundle is far more effective in a 'Protect the Kog'-composition, for example. I think it's largely up to team comps (on both sides) as to which is the strongest for that game. Overall, Skarner is easier to get right though.

Leona is awesome, my favourite support currently (c'mere, Thresh...). Tankiness, two stuns and a surprising amount of damage - she's deadly. Zyra is more versatile on the other hand, as you can play her in the mid as well (Well, she's primarily a mid character.) and does not lack CC either - slowing plants, AoE root, AoE knockup. Her nature as an AP carry gives her staggering amounts of damage early game as well, she makes for one mean kill lane.

Originally Posted by Duilliath

Debatable. Trundle is far more effective in a 'Protect the Kog'-composition, for example. I think it's largely up to team comps (on both sides) as to which is the strongest for that game. Overall, Skarner is easier to get right though.

That's true as well. Moreover, his unpopularity means people often won't know how to deal with him and that's a strength too.

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Leona is awesome, my favourite support currently (c'mere, Thresh...). Tankiness, two stuns and a surprising amount of damage - she's deadly. Zyra is more versatile on the other hand, as you can play her in the mid as well (Well, she's primarily a mid character.) and does not lack CC either - slowing plants, AoE root, AoE knockup. Her nature as an AP carry gives her staggering amounts of damage early game as well, she makes for one mean kill lane.

That's true as well. Moreover, his unpopularity means people often won't know how to deal with him and that's a strength too.

Leona is one of the few champions I actually got +5 honorable opponent on, due to the plays you can make with her.
Her amount of CC is so absurd, you'll be stunning and slowing so much they'll hate you for it.
I really don't get why she isn't played more than she is right now, I find her the nicest support to play.
Sunlight adds hella lot of damage when paired with a good ADC and the cc is great, she's also innately tanky.