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TBH every Trek writer I think of now wrote some real bad stuff so perhaps its for the best. I would like K & O to 'clean up their act' when it comes to sciencey stuff though! It wouldn't hurt would it.

I feel ok with them coming back but I think they could use some help from a writer who wrote for TNG or DS9 with a more scientific background? Or someone from TNG/DS9 who simply knows how to write a Trek story that can remain within the boundaries of established Treknology & Trek tech issues and inconsistencies.

I realise they are pretty trivial details to think about but my brain being full of random Trek shit does not help me out when I notice annoying things during the movie that others may be oblivious to! It takes me several viewings to ignore myself

I just feel like Kurtzman and Orci can't write good sci-fi but they can write excellent set pieces and great character dialogue & development. They just lack one piece of the puzzle imho and that might be addressed with an old-time Trek writer or perhaps run a script draft past the old writing team or something. They could provide invaluable insight and tidy the script up to the point that we have nothing to complain about in here!

Except, they aren't doing TNG Era Trek, they are doing TOS Era Trek, so, anything in TNG Era Trek (Like Utopia and Picard's speechifying before firing) that isn't in TOS, is not appropriate for the movies currently being made. Section 31 wasn't a problem, because, even though it wasn't invented until DS9, it was said to have always been there. Even Janeway in Voyager spoke of Kirk, Spock and Sulu's era being more "Cowboy" and they would all be drummed out of Starfleet's TNG era more diplomatic style.

I realise we are not seeing TNG now, I do not have any issue with the portrayal of the characters in the reboot. I think they are doing a great job in that regard. I don't want utopia or Picard speeches.

TNG did have similar rules to TOS about the technology and its limits and it did respect science and the laws of physics mostly (haha!) and its writers worked within those limits week in week out, so they might provide a 'buffer' to prevent K&O ideas such as Transwarp beaming being used as a plot device.

Like I said, it is trivial details ultimately! I think they will deliver an enjoyable film again regardless.

While ID's "cold fusion" and STXI's galaxy-destroying supernovae are terrible science, I don't much like the idea of scripts with [TECH] paceholders, where Mike Okuda (or whoever) would come along and add random combinations of...

TNG did have similar rules to TOS about the technology and its limits and it did respect science and the laws of physics mostly (haha!) and its writers worked within those limits week in week out, so they might provide a 'buffer' to prevent K&O ideas such as Transwarp beaming being used as a plot device.

Like I said, it is trivial details ultimately! I think they will deliver an enjoyable film again regardless.

Did they? I think like with a lot Trek the science and tech bowed to the needs of the plot. There really were no limits. Or as Scott might say "I canna change the laws of physics" and then proceeds to do so.

Ugh, I don't know. Some aspects of STID do not sit right with me and did mess up my initial viewings before I realised its not worth obsessing over them.. but it would be great if they cleaned the science & trek tech up a bit. Thats all. I can manage though if they are unable to do so.

I realise that a great scene on paper is not going to be binned because of some science hiccup and it has always been that way.

I love TNG, it and DS9 are tied for my favorite of the TV shows, and Picard is my favorite captain. However, TNG had a habit of coming up with some techno-babble that may or may not have made sense, but would conveniently let them resolve an issue in the last 5-10 minutes of an episode. I don't know if I want to see that in the films.

I love TNG, it and DS9 are tied for my favorite of the TV shows, and Picard is my favorite captain. However, TNG had a habit of coming up with some techno-babble that may or may not have made sense, but would conveniently let them resolve an issue in the last 5-10 minutes of an episode. I don't know if I want to see that in the films.

You mean like Khan superblood?

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I love TNG, it and DS9 are tied for my favorite of the TV shows, and Picard is my favorite captain. However, TNG had a habit of coming up with some techno-babble that may or may not have made sense, but would conveniently let them resolve an issue in the last 5-10 minutes of an episode. I don't know if I want to see that in the films.

You mean like Khan superblood?

Since they introduced the blood in the first twenty-minutes of the film, I'm not sure it's the same thing.