I would definetly draft either Ponder or Locker but not with #8 in the first round. Ponder should still be on the board when we select in the second round. With our first rounder we should draft d line or CB.

You may want to do some reading around, John Clayton wrote today that Christian Ponder has likely moved into the first round, Gabbert, Locker and Newton will all go round 1. Mallett is the wild card. Some teams have him completely off their draft board, but some were very impressed with his interviews, and he looked the best of the QBs today, although that was to be expected. You will see at least 3 QBs gone in round 1, maybe as much as 5. More then a third of the league need QBs this year, and there is likely to be a rookie wage scale making it easier to gamble on a first round QB.

Just because an analyst says a QB moves into the first round it does not mean they will be taken. Not all teams have a need for QB. I would say no more than two will be selected in the first round. I can almost guarantee that Ponder will be available in Rd. 2

I am not hearing about Locker breaking ribs last year which clearly would have affected his accuracy. Can anyone shed any light on the broken rib story? Maybe I mis-read something and he broke down and ate ribs instead...

Can somebody please explain why so much emphasis is placed on a QB's athletic ability. The last time I checked the best two QBs in the league (Manning and Brady) are not really athletically gifted. What good is a QB that can run really fast but struggles completing passes. Also, Mike Vick is a dual threat at QB because he is an elusive runner. He can make people miss. In my opinion straight line speed does not translate into the QB position at all. As a head coach I could care less if my QB runs a 4.4 or 4.6 40 time. Elusiveness is the key here and pocket presence helps as well with extending plays. Let's face it, we want a QB who can pass the football and escape pressure when needed. We do not need a really really athletic guy who is fast as hell and can pass a little bit. I'm sorry, but Cam Newton does not translate into a franchise QB.

We do not need a really really athletic guy who is fast as hell and can pass a little bit.

Newton had a passing rating of 185 and not one skill position player on Auburn was 1st or 2nd team all sec. Gabbert played in a spread and his numbers were not as impressive despite having an all big 12 TE and a 2nd team all big 12 WR..

We had a poster say that Ponder is the most accurate in this draft but Newton completed 5% more of his pass attempts than Ponder.

You are aware that Newton had a higher passing rating than any of the QBs we are discussing right?

How does throwing 20 passes on one day account for yardage production? Newton produced almost 11 years per pass. Pop gun Ponder couldn't crack 7 ypa.

Can somebody please explain why so much emphasis is placed on a QB's athletic ability. The last time I checked the best two QBs in the league (Manning and Brady) are not really athletically gifted. What good is a QB that can run really fast but struggles completing passes. Also, Mike Vick is a dual threat at QB because he is an elusive runner. He can make people miss. In my opinion straight line speed does not translate into the QB position at all. As a head coach I could care less if my QB runs a 4.4 or 4.6 40 time. Elusiveness is the key here and pocket presence helps as well with extending plays. Let's face it, we want a QB who can pass the football and escape pressure when needed. We do not need a really really athletic guy who is fast as hell and can pass a little bit. I'm sorry, but Cam Newton does not translate into a franchise QB.

Its not about being a dual threat QB like Vick. It's about being able to extend a play and make something happen. Like Big Ben, Aaron Rodgers, Josh Freeman, Tony Romo.. just to name a few. You want a QB that can throw for 3000 yards a season, but it's also nice to have an extra 300 rushing yards to that. It's not the #1 emphasis, but it's a great add-on.

Newton had a passing rating of 185 and not one skill position player on Auburn was 1st or 2nd team all sec. Gabbert played in a spread and his numbers were not as impressive despite having an all big 12 TE and a 2nd team all big 12 WR..

We had a poster say that Ponder is the most accurate in this draft but Newton completed 5% more of his pass attempts than Ponder.

You are aware that Newton had a higher passing rating than any of the QBs we are discussing right?

How does throwing 20 passes on one day account for yardage production? Newton produced almost 11 years per pass. Pop gun Ponder couldn't crack 7 ypa.

Does any of this really matter? I would say no. Vince Young was the #1 rated passer in the nation when he was in college. That tends to happen when you play for a top team and your offense is ridiculously simplified for you. Newton never has to make a tough read or a tough throw. Of course he's going to have good passing stats. It won't translate to the pros.

Can somebody please explain why so much emphasis is placed on a QB's athletic ability. The last time I checked the best two QBs in the league (Manning and Brady) are not really athletically gifted. What good is a QB that can run really fast but struggles completing passes. Also, Mike Vick is a dual threat at QB because he is an elusive runner. He can make people miss. In my opinion straight line speed does not translate into the QB position at all.

In support of this, Aaron Rodgers ran a 4.77 at his combine in 2005. I don't think anyone would call him a running threat but he did rush for 356 yards last season which put him third in the NFL.

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