I was recently watching some of Eddie Kingston's PWG stuff. While not the best wrestler, he really had a good rapport with the fans.

I remember in like 2007 when The Dynasty (Joey/Lost) were gonna defend the Tag Titles against Kingston & Claudio. With the whole Hero/Tornado thing brewing they probably would've won too. I even remember an old pic of them both in Claudio's suits. A lot of "what ifs" come to mind.

Kingston should have done big things...an early big-time singles title match with Hero would have really helped Hero's title reign. I remember how good their match at ASW6 was getting until the injury...match woulda been a classic.

camstun187 wrote:Kingston should have done big things...an early big-time singles title match with Hero would have really helped Hero's title reign. I remember how good their match at ASW6 was getting until the injury...match woulda been a classic.

Remember the 4-way with Hero, King, Necro & Ki? Cool little match, but the post-match stuff kinda solidified that King/Hero would likely not work each other in PWG again.

Since then, Hero has left the indies and Kingston seems more consistent now than ever. If the Briscoes and Los Luchas got multiple chances, I think bringing King back after nearly 5 years for one shot wouldn't hurt.

camstun187 wrote:Kingston should have done big things...an early big-time singles title match with Hero would have really helped Hero's title reign. I remember how good their match at ASW6 was getting until the injury...match woulda been a classic.

Remember the 4-way with Hero, King, Necro & Ki? Cool little match, but the post-match stuff kinda solidified that King/Hero would likely not work each other in PWG again.

Since then, Hero has left the indies and Kingston seems more consistent now than ever. If the Briscoes and Los Luchas got multiple chances, I think bringing King back after nearly 5 years for one shot wouldn't hurt.

Man, I simply cannot afford a shoot right now, so tell me about it. The story I heard 4 years ago was that Kingston claimed his hearing was knocked mostly deaf during the match, and when Hero got on the Mic, he assumed Hero was burying him so when Hero started kicking at him, Kingston took it really seriously.

Garden State Saint wrote:This is more or less an open ended question but why isn't the Iron Man match from Use Your Illusion IV talked about a bit more?

I imagine because it's an old match. How many old matches are talked up as much as they should? I went into the match with pretty low expectations. Nothing against Joey or Dragon, but there's just so few guys in modern wrestling that can work a 60 minute match and make it entertaining. Yet, Joey and Dragon shocked the hell out of me as they had a killer match. Easily one of the best PWG matches of 2004.

As far as early shows go, Use Your Illusion IV has to be one of the best. You started off with a surprisingly quality match between the UK Kid and the super underrated Tony Stradlin. Then there's a perfectly fine Talwar vs TJ Perkins match. After that is a killer Arrogance/AXP match. Kazarian and Ricky Reyes had an enjoyable title match. Main event was the MOTYC with Joey vs Dragon. The only downside to the show was the CHIKARA showcase that didn't do a single thing for me. Real pity too because I liked all six guys later on in their careers.

Super Dragon and Ryan had none of the best Iron Man matches of all time, probably my favorite...since i'v watched it more than any other. Screw anyone who criticizes Joey Ryan. He is a great worker and Super Dragon was a perfect dance partner. They had a really awesome feud.

Joey can be hit or miss at times, but when he's on, he's fantastic. I'd put the Iron Man match against Super Dragon, Guerrilla Warfare against Human Tornado and the Guerrilla Warfare against Chris Hero up for three of the best matches in the company's history.

Joey's biggest flaw is probably just that he's a mainstream wrestler stuck in the indies.

talley_1986 wrote:Joey can be hit or miss at times, but when he's on, he's fantastic. I'd put the Iron Man match against Super Dragon, Guerrilla Warfare against Human Tornado and the Guerrilla Warfare against Chris Hero up for three of the best matches in the company's history.

Joey's biggest flaw is probably just that he's a mainstream wrestler stuck in the indies.

What matches of his do you believe to be a "miss" of his? I only ask out of curiousity.

I can't say I liked any of his Paul London matches, whether tag or singles. Most of his PWG World Title reign was fairly skippable (Although PWG does get points for telling a long story). I don't want to say it's bad, but I found his Guerrilla Warfare match against Super Dragon to be pretty disappointing. They had a great match, but it just kept going on and on and on and on. It's sorta ironic that I loved their hour long iron man match when the time length of their previous match was the biggest negative.

Claudio Castangoli vs. Doug Williams from PWG Battle of Los Angeles 2007: Night One - This may have set the record for most uppercuts in a single match. Maybe aside from Kenny Omega, I wish I could see Doug Williams on a regular basis again on the indy circuit.

Garden State Saint wrote:Today I watched AJ Styles vs. Kevin Steen from Zombies [Shouldn't Run] for the first time in awhile and it's still one of my favorite finishes in PWG history.

Zombies Shouldn't Run is one of my favorite PWG shows. Quicksilver vs. Super Dragon was a classic. Arrogance vs. 2 Skinny Black Guys was always great. Speaking of Arrogance though, damn I miss them. Their match with Cape Fear from Beyond The Thunderdome is easily one of my top 10 PWG matches.

Watching some very early PWG, and something strikes me as odd. Why exactly did Scott Lost wear that thick MMA-esque glove on his left hand? He wasn't left-handed, so it's not like it was to make his punches stronger, and he didn't use a clawhold or anything. Just weird.