Hardware and design of the NP 3900/12 are great, but the software seems to be rubbish!

Does anyone have any suggestions what to do - otherwise I will throw that box to a shredder

Michael

Tias

01-03-2012, 10:12 PM

Hi Michael !

Have you installed the latest firmware in your NP3900 ?

Cheers !

mikesb

01-04-2012, 09:05 AM

Hi Tias,

yes, because the Player did fetch the updates automatically.

I just reset to Factory Settings this morning. Connection to Router was succesful, but still no Internet connection. All other devices (like NP 2500) are working properly.

Michael

sternecaugek

01-09-2012, 02:20 PM

Hi everyone,

Since today, my NP3900/12 is totally frozen; after changing network connection from ethernet to wifi, the device froze, and had to be unplugged from mains power. Since then, each time I replug it, it shows the Spotify ad, then the home screen for Internet radio, but the touch screen does not respond and the device does not respond to the Philips remote, and the on-off switch does not respond. I have performed this unplug-replug operation maybe 10 times, but still there is absolutely no functionality. What on earth can I do ???
PS1: this freeze already happened maybe 3-4 times since December, when I took delivery, but then a replug seemed to reset the device. This time, no.
PS2: Yes I did install the latest firmware maybe 10-15 days ago.

Pallas

01-13-2012, 10:05 AM

Hi all,
indeed a strange behaviour of the NP3900 even with the new firmware. Looks like Np3900 has some problems in receiving an IP adress via DHCP. That's how I solved it:

1) If you want to connect via Wifi disconnect your ethernet cable.
2) Deactivate your DHCP server temporarily while configuring your NP3900 so devices in your network won't receive new IP adresses automatically which causes an instant freeze of your box sometimes.
3) connect via Wifi or ethernet and configure a static IP in your NP3900. Play around with your NP3900. In my case it worked stable now.
4) You may now active DHCP in your router or home server again.

cheers
Pallas

sternecaugek

01-13-2012, 10:44 AM

thanks Pallas; I follow your logic. Because my NP3900/12 was totally frozen & impossible to resurrect, I have been obliged to send it back to Philips; the agent told me to expect a 2-3wks wait. There appears to be no user-accessible "reset" button on the NP3900/12, right?

Pallas

01-13-2012, 11:47 AM

I'm afraid there is no user-accessible reset button. The only way I communicate with the player is via remote control, touch screen or browser access via http://<IP address>:8889/index

Fortunately I was always able to restart my player by replugging the main power. I guess your NP3900 was automatically updating firmware in the background while freezing due to problems with the network settings? It's just speculation but mabye it bricked itself because the update couldn't be finished? That's what I feared while I was updating my firmware while it was in unstable condition. Now I deactivated the automatic update feature and will do firmware updates manually to minimize the risk in the future.
Hope they will fix you player soon ;) cheers

fromsomewhere

01-13-2012, 12:06 PM

Hi Pallas,

a) What does your signal indicator show? Is it red or some white bars? I have seen NP 3900 giving troubles when the bar goes orange.

b) Do you have any microwave, dect phone or wifi connected tV around?

c) If you do a wired connection, does the problem go away?

Pallas

01-13-2012, 12:36 PM

a) you mean signal bar while connected via wifi? no I haven't recognized any orange bar yet. Only the white bar when it's connected or red when it's disconnected.

b) no there aren't any microwave, dect or many other wifi devices in my flat (maybe in my neigbourhood but the walls are quite thick here.

c) no even with ethernet the player freezes. I don't think it depends on the wireless connection. I am quite shure it has something to do with DHCP.

If I try to receive the IP automatically via DHCP it always ends with an error message ("couldn't receive IP address" or so). But when I check DHCP settings in my home server the correct IP address was given to the MAC of NP3900. On the other hand, when I check my router (with integrated Wifi hotspot or via ethernet) the NP3900 is trying to connect to network with an IP like 169.254.x.x (APIPA, Zeroconf). That's why I tried to set network connections manually in the NP3900 and type in a static IP and since then everything works stable.

btw, my DHCP server is submitting correct ip addresses to all other devices in my network. I have only problems with the NP3900.

Blechtrottel

01-14-2012, 03:02 AM

I've a device with AVM7390 and Fritz!Box Repeater.
Works fine, so far ...

Philips - Remko

01-18-2012, 10:02 AM

Hi Pallas, Sternegaucek and mikesb,

I have send you a personal message. Please check your inbox for further follow up.

Kind regards,

HMEyer

01-25-2012, 07:23 PM

Hi all,
same Problem here. The NP 3900/12 freezes. Sometimes after 5 minutes sometimes after 20. Sometimes there ist no failure for hours. When it freezes there ist no more radio or any other function. Just the beep works :( . Happens with any station.

- Firmware is VG 5.59S (did not update it manually - seems to be an auto-update?) BTW the updateing Service freezes too after "looking for updates..."
- Internet-Connection is via WLAN / WPA-PSK protected. Works fine for any other Client. Connection is high.
- I didn't try ethernet
- Does disabeling DHCP really help?
- Up to now I have to replug every time :mad:
- Any more ideas? :confused: Return to vendor?

THX
HMEyer

fromsomewhere

01-26-2012, 01:49 AM

Hi

Seems you have some wifi issue. Few things to check.

a) Can you try on wired connection whether the NP works normally?
b) How good is the signal stength on the NP display? Hope it is not orange or red colour.
c) Is your router in autochannel mode? Maybe fixed channel solves the problem.
d) Is there any microwave, dect phone or wifi enabled TV near yr NP?

sternecaugek

01-26-2012, 07:26 AM

Hi Pallas, Sternegaucek and mikesb,

I have send you a personal message. Please check your inbox for further follow up.

Kind regards,

Thanks Remco, but I'm afraid you misspelt my id so I didn't get your message; it is sternecaugek, you inverted the c and the g . Can you resend your message? By the way my NP3900/12 was taken back by Philips for repair on Jan 13th, I am waiting to get it back. Best regards, Robert

Philips - Remko

01-27-2012, 12:08 PM

Hi Sternecaugek,

The message was send to the correct inbox on the 18th. I have send it however again, please check your inbox.

Kind regards,

Philips - Remko

01-27-2012, 12:17 PM

HMEyer, I have send you a personal message also. Please check your inbox.

Regards,

sternecaugek

01-27-2012, 05:24 PM

Hi Sternecaugek,

The message was send to the correct inbox on the 18th. I have send it however again, please check your inbox.

Kind regards,

Sory Remco, but I have not received your message, & my spam mailbox is also empty. My email is sternecaugek@yahoo.fr
cheers ... Robert

Philips - Remko

01-30-2012, 05:30 AM

Hi Pallas,

I have send you a PM, please check your personal messages.

Regards,

chrigi

02-11-2012, 02:28 PM

Hi everyone

My NP3900 also often has no connection to the internet (wifi).
All other devices (Laptop, MC8080) still have a good connection -> so the router is o.k.
It only recovers when unplugging the main power and plug on again.
Only switch off and on using power button does not help.
A lot of time (~50%) above problem occurs, it freezes completely when the device tries to connect to the internet.

I have reported the problems to Philips customer support.
3 weeks ago I got a new device as replacement. But since then the same problems happend 3 times again.

At the beginning my MC8080 had similar problems. After they have repaired the device it has improved (but still not perfect).
It looks for me, that Philips has in general some software problems regarding to wifi.