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ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.comSun, 02 Aug 2015 20:31:22 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: abr173rdhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/07/religious-roethlisberger-wont-live-with-fiancee-before-marriage/#comment-1027957
Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:20:40 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=121924#comment-1027957Right, so you go from sex offender to being engaged with a girl who still lives at home with her parents, and your religious beliefs preclude you from living together. ROFL-

I have a huge inventories of bridges for sale if anyone is interested…….Seriously.

My reason for debating Ben’s case is because I’m a rape survivor and have been involved in these issues for years. I’m also a writer/researcher from a family of criminal defense lawyers and by chance have a good friend who worked Ben’s Milledgeville case. I have researched Ben’s legal cases from beginning to end as thoroughly as any reporter assigned to cover them.

The hotel worker in Nevada sent text messages the morning after her one-niter with Ben telling friends she couldn’t wait to see him again. She obsessed over him so much for a year that her bosses asked her to take paid leave when he was scheduled to return so she would not have access to him. That’s when she freaked out and filed the civil suit for $3 million against him and her coworkers. Most guys in these cases settle to make the case go away. Instead, Ben has countersued for defamation, and the text messages she sent have been filed with the court. Police in that jurisdiction have said no one has ever filed a criminal rape complaint with them and they have no evidence a crime ever occurred.

Multiple witnesses in Milledgeville said the woman in question pursued Ben from bar to bar while buying her own liquor on a fake ID. She repeatedly propositioned him in front of witnesses and tried to get him to return to her place. He declined, saying it was a lawsuit in the making. Her sorority sister began ragging him about the Nevada suit and he personally ejected her from the party. Later, he and the accuser were alone in the bathroom less than 10 minutes. The sorority sister who was ejected is the one who made the rape complaint, which the accuser repeatedly denied. She changed her story after pressure from her friend. The only allegation was vaginal rape, but the medical exam found they did not have intercourse … which means she lied. Witnesses also refuted the story of the bodyguard, which conflicted with the accuser’s written account of events.

The DA said the sorority sisters’ accusations were fueled by alcohol and he hoped they learned their lesson. He also said there’s nothing to suggest that woman was paid anything. Since there was no evidence to bring charges with or without her cooperation, the only motive for Ben to pay her would have been to get her to recant the accusation. She hasn’t.

Ben is a great QB, but he’s also an idiot. I hope he straightens out his life, but it doesn’t really matter to me as long as he just shuts up and plays.

My concern is that law enforcement spend its time on real victims and real predators. I’m sickened by women who make false accusations for profit or revenge, which happens more regularly than most people realize. Ben brought a lot of his problems on himself by his own irresponsible behavior, but the medical exam in Georgia and the text messages Andrea McNulty sent in Nevada don’t lie. And despite the rumors and ranting of guys on PFT, those are the only two accusations that have ever been made against him.

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Tue, 12 Apr 2011 02:56:35 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=121924#comment-1025519steelcurtainn says:
Apr 7, 2011 10:46 PM
Here come the haters. Funny thing is most all the remarks are old and arent funny at all.
Guess thats what happens when Big Bens a winner. 7 years in the league, 3 superbowl appearances, and 2 superbowl wins. Thats just the facts haters. He is also turning around his life for the better. Theres alot of teams in this league that havent been to a superbowl in a LONG TIME and Big will be will win another Count on it.

duece5 says:

You are wrong black and gold breath….it isn’t funny for YOU. It is hilarious to all non-Steeler fans AND some Steeler fans. The dude is a mess. Yes, he helped win you Super Bowls–congrats. But, I have to admit, I am shocked he didn’t disintegrate on the spot the moment the guy mentioned himself AND religion. That dude will NOT change. Too early success, immaturity, and an attitude of entitlement, along with his desire to do it in bathrooms. Hey, I guess he found true love. He just shouldn’t confuse this mini-episode of not living together as trying to stay true to his “religous beliefs”. What are those by the way?? Really dude? The dude is DUMBER than I even thought, and that my friend, is HILARIOUS!!!! hey, if you want to talk super bowls fine. It’s funny, once you get to the heart of the argument, his lack of moral conscience, the more BR fans talk about super bowls because they can’t compete with the reality that BR is the biggest scum in the NFL. But, hey, he won super bowls!! Ya, i bet mom/dad are proud of him for his immoral ineptitude–THAT IS THE ARGUMENT HERE!!

So you’ve read the case files, the evidence reports, the medical report, and Roger Goodell’s letter to Ben?

Multiple witnesses had the woman pursuing Ben from club to club. They were alone less than 10 minutes. She was dragged to a cop and rape was alleged by a sorority sister Ben had personally thrown out of the party for ragging him about the Nevada accusation. That woman made up the bodyguard story, which was later refuted by multiple witnesses. The woman’s medical exam showed she did not have intercourse, so the story of vaginal rape–the only sex act she alleged–was a lie. Visit Milledgeville and ask around. Not one cop or prosecutor who worked the case thought the woman was credible.

Goodell’s letter said NFL investigators didn’t find anything to contradict the police findings. BUT he was drunk and acting inappropriately so they suspended him anyway. Translation: THE MEDIA IS WATCHING.

He became the first NFL player in history suspended without a single warning, arrest, failing any substance abuse test, or violation of any team policy…..

duece5 says:

Deb, I understand you want to defend your QB. But if you re-read one of your last sentences, you will understand, FULLY, why people pile on BR. As you state, “He became the the first NFL player in history suspended without a single warning, arrest, failing any substance abuse test, or violation of any team policy….”

So why did the guy get suspended?

BECAUSE HE IS SO FREAKIN’ STUPID AND FULL OF HIMSELF, HE DIDN’T THINK HE WOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS ACTIONS!

And, he WAS warned by Goodell prior—“to stay out of the limelight—don’t embarass the shield”.

He did, and he paid a huge price to his reputation. For most people…forever….he is just a disgusting guy….I’m sure your’re proud of him.

I still maintain that permanent residence with parents at the age of 27 for no health reason is sad…and immature.
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I’m 31 in the Army I live in OK, but my Home of Record is my parent’s house in GA (i.e permanent residence). I pay GA taxes and update my GA driver’s license as required. Why? because every two years I’m moving somewhere new. And the Army says you must have Permanent home of record for accountability purposes. That being said, unless you are in that person’s shoes you have no idea why her permanent residence is with her parents. However, I can see that you can make ignorant statements on something you have no knowledge, that is unless you’re an expert on everyone’s living arrangements.

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Mon, 11 Apr 2011 01:59:57 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=121924#comment-1024551It took about half way through the thread before Deb let go. As Van Halen would say, “Rock On!”.

Well, maybe Ben is trying to get it right this time? And since he and his betrothed are on the same page that’s all that matters. No doubt Ben is a different guy when ever he gets drunk just like all of you.

“I did what I did until love came to town.”
B.B. King

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Mon, 11 Apr 2011 00:09:55 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=121924#comment-1024496he is having all the automatic restraint metal bars in his bed deactivated…for now.
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Sat, 09 Apr 2011 22:57:40 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=121924#comment-1024000Lets just hope the do not procreate , Pittsburgh is busting at the seams with waterhead mongoloids already. Can’t wait to see TMZ’s coverage of the bachelor party, that will be one for the ages. I just hope he doesn’t come back to Ohio to have the party, then I’ll have to lock up the daughters and the family pet.
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Sat, 09 Apr 2011 20:09:31 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=121924#comment-1023931If I were you guys, I’d be embarrassed to know I let through that original comment but wouldn’t print the good-natured response.
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Sat, 09 Apr 2011 20:07:29 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=121924#comment-1023930@luckywi …

Oh. My. Gosh.

Say it ain’t so, luckywi!!! I have zero respect and credibility from the teenagers on PFT. And you’ve discovered my secret: I’m “big-boned.” :oops:

Gasp!! Now my life has no meaning!

Yes, maybe a therapist would help.

Can you give me the name of yours? :lol:

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Sat, 09 Apr 2011 16:23:27 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=121924#comment-1023784deb: I’d like to say you are thick skinned, because you get destroyed anytime you utter anything about your precious Steeler’s. You have zero respect, and frankly, zero credibility. You are basically, a one woman pr commentor for “therapist”. But really, they refer to you as “big boned”.
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Sat, 09 Apr 2011 12:43:28 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=121924#comment-1023623What a fraud this guy is. What’s the over under on how long it takes ben to cheat on her (which is ok according to his beliefs)?
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Sat, 09 Apr 2011 10:34:03 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=121924#comment-1023588LOL wow. Look at Deb in here white-knighting Pig Ben and his useless, livin-in-her-parent’s-basement-at age 27 fiancee.

Keep trying to repair your soiled image, Pig Ben. You bought one superbowl ring, lucked into another, have somehow escaped being thrown in prison for rape, and you play for the Steelers. Your image is shot.

Since when is raping women just a bad decision? If that’s your standards I hope you don’t live anywhere near me!

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Fri, 08 Apr 2011 14:12:04 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=121924#comment-1022649Of course his fiance trusts him…I mean she believes in mythical creatures and fictional characters (God). She probably also believes that Pinnochio was real, that there was a wooden puppet that turned into a real boy.

Why is it that so many smart people are dumb enough to believe in a book written thousands of years ago for the uneducated masses as a form of control?

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Fri, 08 Apr 2011 12:37:14 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=121924#comment-1022498stairwayto7 says:
Apr 7, 2011 5:33 PM
Ben is not a cancer survivor hater liek Aaron Rodgers! And their is video proof of that!
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Perfect example of why people hate Steelers fans.
]]>By: MichaelEditshttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/07/religious-roethlisberger-wont-live-with-fiancee-before-marriage/#comment-1022424
Fri, 08 Apr 2011 11:04:26 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=121924#comment-1022424He said no
He said no
He said no
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Fri, 08 Apr 2011 03:37:19 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=121924#comment-1022360How great to read some positive football news for a change! The interview/article appears in full in Thursday’s Pittsburgh Post Gazette. Best of luck to Ben and Ashley in the marriage and as they begin their life together. I’m sure I speak for many when I say – it’s time for the haters to move on, get a life and find a new target. Who hasn’t made some bad decisions at one time or another.

So, here’s to Ben getting married in July and Hines winning Dancing with the Stars for the Steeler Nation.

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Fri, 08 Apr 2011 02:46:45 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=121924#comment-1022331Here come the haters. Funny thing is most all the remarks are old and arent funny at all.
Guess thats what happens when Big Bens a winner. 7 years in the league, 3 superbowl appearances, and 2 superbowl wins. Thats just the facts haters. He is also turning around his life for the better. Theres alot of teams in this league that havent been to a superbowl in a LONG TIME and Big will be will win another Count on it.
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Fri, 08 Apr 2011 01:33:55 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=121924#comment-1022296@Canyonero …

Married women? That’s new.

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Fri, 08 Apr 2011 00:55:19 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=121924#comment-1022277So you can’t live together because of your religious faiths and beliefs…