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Yes I do believe he thought he was protecting his secretary and in the beginning thought he was doing it all for the good of Germany. I do know that you can manipulate people socially, to offer them protection if they'll obey or be loyal to your group/cause, and yes I think this happens. A lot of women attempted suicide for him, and two of them actually succeeded, so I'm sure he had some incredible ability to draw people in, like...a cult leader...that sort of thing.

I tend to think of Hitler more as a cult leader, more of a highly educated and well-socialized Charles Manson, than a gang leader.

A cult leader is a good way to put it. Not very many people know this, but the Aryan ideal was closely linked to the esoteric, the occult, and ideas you would normally associate with bohemians. You're right, Hitler was a much poorer strategist than I would imagine a gang leader to be.

A cult leader is a good way to put it. Not very many people know this, but the Aryan ideal was closely linked to the esoteric, the occult, and ideas you would normally associate with bohemians. You're right, Hitler was a much poorer strategist than I would imagine a gang leader to be.

Isn't the Aryan ideal connected to that Hyperborean stuff? Also about Hitler being a poor strategist: that's why I've argued so viciously with anyone who tried to call him a TJ. I simply don't think Te was one of his top two functions, his strategy was most successful for its social nature.

Not saying that an FJ couldn't be capable of utilizing their Ti function, I'm just saying Hitler's primary strength was not externally measurable logic.

Of course his ability to restore prosperity to an economically failing country could be comparable to an IxTJ leader. But I think Fe was his real strength, by all reports he was basically a rock star.

"Sentiment without action is the ruin of the soul." - Edward Abbey

"In those days I, Daniel, was mourning three full weeks. I ate no pleasant food, no meat or wine came into my mouth, nor did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled." Daniel 10:2-3

Isn't the Aryan ideal connected to that Hyperborean stuff? Also about Hitler being a poor strategist: that's why I've argued so viciously with anyone who tried to call him a TJ. I simply don't think Te was one of his top two functions, his strategy was most successful for its social nature.

Not saying that an FJ couldn't be capable of utilizing their Ti function, I'm just saying Hitler's primary strength was not externally measurable logic.

Of course his ability to restore prosperity to an economically failing country could be comparable to an IxTJ leader. But I think Fe was his real strength, by all reports he was basically a rock star.

Yes, Hyperborean crap pursued in their interpretation of the vision of Nietzsche.

Heard that Hitler was INFJ!!!! but arent INFJs supposed to be more like "quiet leadrers"!!! So eventhough he might have had a good of the nation and Ayans in mind (?????) I believe he suffered from some kind of mental illness and his actions are by oi means can be explianed by his MBIT type...

Side note; as an Aryan myself ( whatever the hell it means), Aryans are originally have light skin and dark hair so never undrestton Hitler's dellusional thinking of creating a pure race of blondes....

Heard that Hitler was INFJ!!!! but arent INFJs supposed to be more like "quiet leadrers"!!! So eventhough he might have had a good of the nation and Ayans in mind (?????) I believe hesuffer from some kind of mental illness and his actions are by oi means can be explianed by his MBIT type...

Side note, as an Aryan myself ( whatever hell it means), Aryans are originally have light skin and dark hair so never undrestton Hitler's dellusional thinking of creating a pure race of blondes....

Yeah he may have been an INFJ I'm not sure why you would be upset, there are good and bad people of every type, and if we combine Hitler's vision with his Fe, he seems much more NFJ than SFJ.

I don't like this idea that all NFs are "nice" or that INFJs are saints, or that ISFPs are the gentlest people on earth...this is all a bunch of crap that has nothing to do with Jungian function order, as far as I can tell.

We can have ESFJ serial killers and INFJ political mass murderers, it do happen.

"Sentiment without action is the ruin of the soul." - Edward Abbey

"In those days I, Daniel, was mourning three full weeks. I ate no pleasant food, no meat or wine came into my mouth, nor did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled." Daniel 10:2-3

The porn star thread has pointed out the hilariousness in politically incorrect term "shemale". It just sound silly. It sound like he-man's gargantuan amazonian axe-wielding female arch nemesis, capable of only communicating in grunts and monosyllabic words.

Yeah he may have been an INFJ I'm not sure why you would be upset, there are good and bad people of every type, and if we combine Hitler's vision with his Fe, he seems much more NFJ than SFJ.

I don't like this idea that all NFs are "nice" or that INFJs are saints, or that ISFPs are the gentlest people on earth...this is all a bunch of crap that has nothing to do with Jungian function order, as far as I can tell.

We can have ESFJ serial killers and INFJ political mass murderers, it do happen.

i believe the Teutonics are into teh peepee. @Nicodemus, can you offer any insight? (it's ok to be blunt)

I have never heard or read of either in connection with Hitler, nor have I myself been interested in either for sexual reasons. It sounds like anti-propaganda: not only do they kill jews, they are also salirophiles.

The porn star thread has pointed out the hilariousness in politically incorrect term "shemale". It just sound silly. It sound like he-man's gargantuan amazonian axe-wielding female arch nemesis, capable of only communicating in grunts and monosyllabic words.

Haha, for some reason it reminds me of that stupid "Humanzee" from many years ago.