tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21402852.post3680656440893819522..comments2015-08-01T19:14:19.851+10:00Comments on The NXT STEP is EV3 - LEGO® MINDSTORMS® Blog: FLL Mission Overview Part 9 - Coal MiningJames Floyd Kelly (Jim)http://www.blogger.com/profile/13876934942928389738noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21402852.post-6988489470769964642007-11-12T05:06:00.000+10:002007-11-12T05:06:00.000+10:00Richard,That has already been addressed in the Q& ...Richard,<BR/><BR/>That has already been addressed in the Q& A, the one quoted in the first comment :-)<BR/><BR/>The coal that falls out of the coal cart because of it's forward momentum is considered stray. This is under the reasoning that there is an extreme unlikelihood of more than half the black coal falling out. I would assume that if the cart was derailed, the ref would give the benefit of the doubt that neither the robot, nor the robot handlers were responsible, and the ref would reset the mission. Pointwise, all the ref is doing is giving you another shot at a mission that failed through no fault of your own.<BR/><BR/>If the robot knocks it off the track, that's another story.catpit contractornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21402852.post-79511432715368015322007-11-09T09:56:00.000+10:002007-11-09T09:56:00.000+10:00Catpit Contractor,Fine, then what happens if the c...Catpit Contractor,<BR/><BR/>Fine, then what happens if the car spills itself? (it hits the stoppers too hard and coal flies out?)<BR/><BR/>RichardRobolab 2.9http://www.blogger.com/profile/17939752764198572180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21402852.post-67396427776138133992007-11-07T23:16:00.000+10:002007-11-07T23:16:00.000+10:00Richard,Don't knock over the cart then. Even the a...Richard,<BR/><BR/>Don't knock over the cart then. Even the adrenaline of the competition couldn't make your hand that shaky...CATpit contractorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01789906728481902082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21402852.post-33362218978911524822007-11-07T10:41:00.000+10:002007-11-07T10:41:00.000+10:00To Josh:But the car never made it to Base... The s...To Josh:<BR/><BR/>But the car never made it to Base... The scenario is something along the lines of: The car rolls down, you reach out but accidentally bump it and tip it, causing it to spill. It is not causing something to "leave or extend" out of Base. So I don't think Rule 22 could address the given scenario.<BR/><BR/>*sigh*<BR/><BR/>I'll email FLL support sometime today or tommorow.<BR/><BR/>RichardRobolab 2.9http://www.blogger.com/profile/17939752764198572180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21402852.post-53852940553807927622007-11-06T23:14:00.000+10:002007-11-06T23:14:00.000+10:00Chimp,There are a lot more missions this year, and...Chimp,<BR/><BR/>There are a lot more missions this year, and (I feel) that the mission writers left a lot of questions in all of them.CATpit contractorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01789906728481902082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21402852.post-28659961475719009772007-11-06T16:52:00.000+10:002007-11-06T16:52:00.000+10:00By comparison, there were only 26 questions in the...By comparison, there were only 26 questions in the QA at this time last year. The QA topped out at 36.Talking Chimphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11270832018743944777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21402852.post-42969711625121985812007-11-06T16:28:00.000+10:002007-11-06T16:28:00.000+10:00"What happens to the coal that is spilled in the c..."What happens to the coal that is spilled in the case the human hand splls it in an attempt to retrive the car?"<BR/><BR/>If a human spills them (not spilled by the action of them falling down the rails and hitting the bottom) they can be picked up. Same case if a barrel accidentally rolls out of base. Rule 22.<BR/><BR/>JoshJoshua Heinzlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14430903355164751820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21402852.post-55830898867612532932007-11-06T09:52:00.000+10:002007-11-06T09:52:00.000+10:00Apparently you can't, even if you need them, since...Apparently you can't, even if you need them, since they're stray objects.<BR/><BR/> -JonathanJonathan Daudelinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12125648034937389273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21402852.post-43260605687585596192007-11-06T08:44:00.000+10:002007-11-06T08:44:00.000+10:0070 Q&A's! Last time I checked there were only 20 O...70 Q&A's! Last time I checked there were only 20 O_o I need to subscribe to the update emails...<BR/><BR/>Hmm... I still don't see a clear answer. What if you DO need more? Can you retrieve some?<BR/><BR/>RichardRobolab 2.9http://www.blogger.com/profile/17939752764198572180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21402852.post-83890781689084093032007-11-06T01:42:00.000+10:002007-11-06T01:42:00.000+10:00"Which is a good question... "What happens to the ..."Which is a good question... "What happens to the coal that is spilled in the case the human hand splls it in an attempt to retrive the car?""<BR/>One needs to keep up to date on the Q&As - there are 70 or more now & still flowing - The answer to your question is found in: QA48 Fallen Coal<BR/>Q:When the coal car has rolled to the end of the track some of the coal pieces sometimes are propelled out of the car. Can these pieces be retrieved by hand along with the coal car or are they consider stray objects & you need to ask the referee to move them?<BR/>A: They're stray. Sometimes they land in Base, and that's cool, but either way, you only need 10+ pieces out of the 20 black ones for the power plant, so it shouldn't be a problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com