christians dont like it when people make fun of their pnoney baloney bogus jesus character

Re: christians dont like it when people make fun of their pnoney baloney bogus jesus character

CORNELIUS TACITUS born AD after jesus death "debunked"

Not debunked at all. You only lie to yourself.

The historians have the final word.

CORNELIUS TACITUS (55 - 120 A.D.) Tacitus was a 1st and 2nd century Roman historian who lived through the reigns of over half a dozen Roman emperors. Considered one of the greatest historians of ancient Rome, Tacitus verifies the Biblical account of Jesus' execution at the hands of Pontius Pilate who governed Judea from 26-36 A.D. during the reign of Tiberius.

"Christus, the founder of the [Christian] name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius. But the pernicious superstition, repressed for a time, broke out again, not only through Judea, where the mischief originated, but through the city of Rome also." Annals XV, 44[link to www.perseus.tufts.edu]

What this passage reveals and how it confirms the Biblical account:

-Jesus did exist

-Jesus was the founder of Christianity

-Jesus was put to death by Pilate

-Christianity originated in Judea (With Jesus)

-Christianity later spread to Rome (Through the Apostles and Evangelists)

Because of his position as a professional historian and not as a commentator Tacitus referenced government records over Christian testimony. There is not a surviving copy of Tacitus' Annals that does not contain this passage. There is no verifiable evidence of tampering of any kind in this passage. It simply provides evidence of Jesus' existence (a topic not debated at this point in history) and not his divinity.[link to www.thedevineevidence.com]

marked the text you should look at and think if thats correct.

He records Christianity and that the Roman Emperor crucified Jesus. There is record in the 1st century of Jesus and these events. Deny all you want. You only lie to yourself.

Re: christians dont like it when people make fun of their pnoney baloney bogus jesus character

whos jesus?

Really, nothing phoney about Jesus. He's recorded by historians of the day. Reject it all you will, you only lie to yourself, OP.

Atheist don't like it when we make fun of their phoney baloney "caveman". hahahahah

Why so hostile? didnt religion teach you to be humble?

i just asked a question since i find little evidence he even existed.

another question who created god?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 989238

As far as Jesus is concerned, I believe there were historians at that time (Josephus, Thallus, Tacitus, and Phlegon) that had record of Jesus, at the very least, he was a man that was alive at one time.

And to answer the question, "who created god?", I answer:Nobody; Nothing.God has always existed, and always will exist. He existed before time, because he created time.

How? Simple! Because before the Big Bang, before the universe existed, spacial dimensions did not exist -- neither did time!When the universe was created, that is when time and spacial dimensions began. Before that, according to the superstring theory, there was no time.

Time (or the other spatial dimensions) never existed before the Big Bang. There wasn't a concept of "beginning".

And since God resides outside of spacetime, he still exists out of time.

I could also explain how God could be everywhere at once (or "everywhen").

See, time is linear... You're always moving forward in time, never backwards (for sake of argument, leave it at that).

Thing is, you can move slower or faster in time (according to Einstein's theory or relativity)... For example, the faster you go, the slower time passes (eg, if you were going 99.5% the speed of light, time will pass at a different speed for you, then it would for someone going .01% the speed of light).

Of course, we're bound to stick on this linear patch, but God can be anywhere and everywhere in time with the addition of just one extra time dimension...

To really explain this, I would have to explain spacial dimensions first (which I really don't feel like explaining at the moment -- unless someone wants me to, then I can get out microsoft paintbrush and draw diagrams to explain it).

You can have your fun now, but there will come a time when you regret the things you've said here. Mocking Christians won't get you far, but I do hope you see the light before its too late. The only way is through Jesus Christ, Savior who sits at the right hand of God.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 972896

i have been hearing this exact same turdly garbage for thirty plus years. Face facts. Your dump god fugger is just a sick pipe dream.

You cant shit a real god, so basically you christurds are just plain fuked...........in the head.

Im getting bored. I have other fish to fry. Ill be back tomorrow and kick some more sorry christurd ass, so keep those cards and letters coming in......dummies.

You can have your fun now, but there will come a time when you regret the things you've said here. Mocking Christians won't get you far, but I do hope you see the light before its too late. The only way is through Jesus Christ, Savior who sits at the right hand of God.

i have been hearing this exact same turdly garbage for thirty plus years. Face facts. Your dump god fugger is just a sick pipe dream.

You cant shit a real god, so basically you christurds are just plain fuked...........in the head.

Im getting bored. I have other fish to fry. Ill be back tomorrow and kick some more sorry christurd ass, so keep those cards and letters coming in......dummies.

Re: christians dont like it when people make fun of their pnoney baloney bogus jesus character

Hey man, I really don't give a shit what you believe. My personal system of faith has nothing to do with any of the Abrahamic crap you dumbasses want to go to the mat for. You just need to understand that as long as you fucks keep trying to shove your personal belief systems down the throats of the rest of the world, along with your dumbass apocalyptic bullshit, you're gonna get a bit of pushback. Your big daddy version of Jesus oughtta be able to get you thru that just fine if ya fall on your knees and squeal like a little girl tonight, right? Cuz, from where I'm standing...you're squealing. So, again, shut up, stand down, quit with the antagonism and come back down to earth, OK, BrainwashBoy?

Quoting: icondon

The only shoving that happened here was a completely disrespectfull thread about God was started by your completly independent fellow athiests that have no religion and no ties to you.

I simply asked why it is important to you that I not beleive. To date, I have not received any reply that wasn't insulting, didn't call me a name ("dumbasses" see above) or didn't try to belittle my belief or disprove it with any fact or fiction. I was simply told I was a dumbass for my freethinking opinion.

If you strive to think for yourself, at least check out things that you oppose so vehemently...

I wasn't trying to shove. Defending your belief against someone mocking them isn't a shove. It's a slap. slap.

Re: christians dont like it when people make fun of their pnoney baloney bogus jesus character

True enough, but the proof has allways bean, that atheists are the most likely to start violence.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 788929

Absolute bullshit.Reference the oLd Testament for the first recorded examples of genocide.Religious people of all brands tend to start religious wars on a pre-emptive basis or with minimal provocation.I'll cite the blood bath that was Europe till recently.If you think that was only a war between Good Protestantism and Bad Catholicism expalin the wholesale murder of millions of non European people during the colonial period, yea even up to the present day.This fucking Crusade in the Middle East in which the three Great Loon Religions are joyfully particapating,all with the intent of bringing about a cataclysmic Final Solution, has what precise atheistic basis?

Re: christians dont like it when people make fun of their pnoney baloney bogus jesus character

True enough, but the proof has allways bean, that atheists are the most likely to start violence.

Absolute bullshit.Reference the oLd Testament for the first recorded examples of genocide.Religious people of all brands tend to start religious wars on a pre-emptive basis or with minimal provocation.I'll cite the blood bath that was Europe till recently.If you think that was only a war between Good Protestantism and Bad Catholicism expalin the wholesale murder of millions of non European people during the colonial period, yea even up to the present day.This fucking Crusade in the Middle East in which the three Great Loon Religions are joyfully particapating,all with the intent of bringing about a cataclysmic Final Solution, has what precise atheistic basis?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 433811

More people have been killed by atheists then all religions, combined.

Re: christians dont like it when people make fun of their pnoney baloney bogus jesus character

Absolute bullshit.Reference the oLd Testament for the first recorded examples of genocide.Religious people of all brands tend to start religious wars on a pre-emptive basis or with minimal provocation.I'll cite the blood bath that was Europe till recently.If you think that was only a war between Good Protestantism and Bad Catholicism expalin the wholesale murder of millions of non European people during the colonial period, yea even up to the present day.This fucking Crusade in the Middle East in which the three Great Loon Religions are joyfully particapating,all with the intent of bringing about a cataclysmic Final Solution, has what precise atheistic basis?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 433811

Because 1000 year old trivia is accurate..

Bonus question: name the religion that has beheaded people in the past 5 years for not believing in god.

Oh come on, you can do it. Ask them the same question if you still have gonads.

Re: christians dont like it when people make fun of their pnoney baloney bogus jesus character

True enough, but the proof has allways bean, that atheists are the most likely to start violence.

Absolute bullshit.Reference the oLd Testament for the first recorded examples of genocide.Religious people of all brands tend to start religious wars on a pre-emptive basis or with minimal provocation.I'll cite the blood bath that was Europe till recently.If you think that was only a war between Good Protestantism and Bad Catholicism expalin the wholesale murder of millions of non European people during the colonial period, yea even up to the present day.This fucking Crusade in the Middle East in which the three Great Loon Religions are joyfully particapating,all with the intent of bringing about a cataclysmic Final Solution, has what precise atheistic basis?

More people have been killed by atheists then all religions, combined.

Re: christians dont like it when people make fun of their pnoney baloney bogus jesus character

True enough, but the proof has allways bean, that atheists are the most likely to start violence.

Absolute bullshit.Reference the oLd Testament for the first recorded examples of genocide.Religious people of all brands tend to start religious wars on a pre-emptive basis or with minimal provocation.I'll cite the blood bath that was Europe till recently.If you think that was only a war between Good Protestantism and Bad Catholicism expalin the wholesale murder of millions of non European people during the colonial period, yea even up to the present day.This fucking Crusade in the Middle East in which the three Great Loon Religions are joyfully particapating,all with the intent of bringing about a cataclysmic Final Solution, has what precise atheistic basis?

More people have been killed by atheists then all religions, combined.

Re: christians dont like it when people make fun of their pnoney baloney bogus jesus character

Hey man, I really don't give a shit what you believe. My personal system of faith has nothing to do with any of the Abrahamic crap you dumbasses want to go to the mat for. You just need to understand that as long as you fucks keep trying to shove your personal belief systems down the throats of the rest of the world, along with your dumbass apocalyptic bullshit, you're gonna get a bit of pushback. Your big daddy version of Jesus oughtta be able to get you thru that just fine if ya fall on your knees and squeal like a little girl tonight, right? Cuz, from where I'm standing...you're squealing. So, again, shut up, stand down, quit with the antagonism and come back down to earth, OK, BrainwashBoy?

The only shoving that happened here was a completely disrespectfull thread about God was started by your completly independent fellow athiests that have no religion and no ties to you.

I simply asked why it is important to you that I not beleive. To date, I have not received any reply that wasn't insulting, didn't call me a name ("dumbasses" see above) or didn't try to belittle my belief or disprove it with any fact or fiction. I was simply told I was a dumbass for my freethinking opinion.

If you strive to think for yourself, at least check out things that you oppose so vehemently...

I wasn't trying to shove. Defending your belief against someone mocking them isn't a shove. It's a slap. slap.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 989489

Maybe it was some other Anonymous Coward that got me all riled up then, I'm not sure. Personally, I'm not an atheist, but I do believe that ALL the three major religions need to just chill the hell out and maybe quit trying to bring about the end of the world. Is that really so much to ask? Basically, don't be a dumbass and you won't be called one. Doesn't matter to me whether you're Xtian, Joo, or MOOZlim, you all are starting to look kinda the same these days. Buncha jacked up violence ridden, hypocritical, nonsense speaking fools dragging the rest of the world down the violent dumbass rabbit hole you're all creating. It's disgusting. And quite frankly, not even amusing anymore.

Re: christians dont like it when people make fun of their pnoney baloney bogus jesus character

I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 2

2. Adolf Hitler: Thanking God

Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy enthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from an overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permitted to live at this time.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 5

3. Adolf Hitler: Deutschland Über Alles

I had so often sung 'Deutschland über Alles' and shouted 'Heil' at the top of my lungs, that it seemed to me almost a belated act of grace to be allowed to stand as a witness in the divine court of the eternal judge and proclaim the sincerity of this conviction.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 5

4. Adolf Hitler: God's Grace Smiles

Once again the songs of the fatherland roared to the heavens along the endless marching columns, and for the last time the Lord's grace smiled on His ungrateful children.

What we have to fight for is the necessary security for the existence and increase of our race and people, the subsistence of its children and the maintenance of our racial stock unmixed, the freedom and independence of the Fatherland; so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission assigned to it by the Creator.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 8

6. Adolf Hitler: Fate of God

But if out of smugness, or even cowardice, this battle is not fought to its end, then take a look at the peoples five hundred years from now. I think you will find but few images of God, unless you want to profane the Almighty.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 10

7. Adolf Hitler: Sin Against the Will of God

In short, the results of miscegenation are always the following: (a) The level of the superior race becomes lowered; (b) physical and mental degeneration sets in, thus leading slowly but steadily towards a progressive drying up of the vital sap. The act which brings about such a development is a sin against the will of the Eternal Creator. And as a sin this act will be avenged.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 11

8. Adolf Hitler: Sacrilege Against God

Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord commits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle and contributes to the expulsion from paradise.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf Vol. 2 Chapter 1

9. Adolf Hitler: Confidence in God

Thus inwardly armed with confidence in God and the unshakable stupidity of the voting citizenry, the politicians can begin the fight for the 'remaking' of the Reich as they call it.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf Vol. 2 Chapter 1

10. Adolf Hitler: Gold has Replaced God

It may be that today gold has become the exclusive ruler of life, but the time will come when man will again bow down before a higher god.

Re: christians dont like it when people make fun of their pnoney baloney bogus jesus character

Hey man, I really don't give a shit what you believe. My personal system of faith has nothing to do with any of the Abrahamic crap you dumbasses want to go to the mat for. You just need to understand that as long as you fucks keep trying to shove your personal belief systems down the throats of the rest of the world, along with your dumbass apocalyptic bullshit, you're gonna get a bit of pushback. Your big daddy version of Jesus oughtta be able to get you thru that just fine if ya fall on your knees and squeal like a little girl tonight, right? Cuz, from where I'm standing...you're squealing. So, again, shut up, stand down, quit with the antagonism and come back down to earth, OK, BrainwashBoy?

Quoting: icondon

Interesting you should say this. When people say "god" are they only talking about the Abrahamic derivatives? Does that mean that you are an atheist if your hypothesis of the nature of God is different to those who hypothesize only one of the Abrahamic derivatives?

Re: christians dont like it when people make fun of their pnoney baloney bogus jesus character

Hey man, I really don't give a shit what you believe. My personal system of faith has nothing to do with any of the Abrahamic crap you dumbasses want to go to the mat for. You just need to understand that as long as you fucks keep trying to shove your personal belief systems down the throats of the rest of the world, along with your dumbass apocalyptic bullshit, you're gonna get a bit of pushback. Your big daddy version of Jesus oughtta be able to get you thru that just fine if ya fall on your knees and squeal like a little girl tonight, right? Cuz, from where I'm standing...you're squealing. So, again, shut up, stand down, quit with the antagonism and come back down to earth, OK, BrainwashBoy?

Interesting you should say this. When people say "god" are they only talking about the Abrahamic derivatives? Does that mean that you are an atheist if your hypothesis of the nature of God is different to those who hypothesize only one of the Abrahamic derivatives?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 987952

Not in my own personal point of view. I think the three major religions...Xtianity, MOOzlims, and Joos...have each corrupted and twisted the entire concept of *GOD* so much that even their own adherents don't get it anymore...but that's just me. I have my own beliefs and thoughts, but no desire to go out and clonk others about the head to force them into my way of thinking...guess that makes me crazy, huh? Just wish they'd all chill the fuck out personally, they're getting on my nerves ALMOST as much as the hardcore Republicans and Democrats in the American political sphere.

Re: christians dont like it when people make fun of their pnoney baloney bogus jesus character

Statism is an irrational ideology that attempts to control humans through its own methods. Statist countries tend to be officially atheist and oppress theisms because they see them as competition for the hearts and minds.

What you said before is true, this thread shows how basically unintelligent people become when they close their minds to any other possibilities. They fight and posture because it is easier than opening the mind to an alternative. Theistic people need to feel their faith is strong so they defend it despite its irrationality. Atheist people have made up their minds and do not want any possibility to enter it that may disavow them of their preconceived beliefs. Ultimately humans are neither intelligent or rational and so this "I am right and you are wrong" posturing is the only thing that will ever happen when people attempt to show another their point of view. It is best for Christians to quietly go away with their irrational and incorrect prejudices about what atheists are, content in their own minds that they are correct. And for Atheists to continue quietly with their assumption of intellectual superiority and for neither to meet and try to pass their point of view to the other. Violence will be the only result. I would recommend that Christians meet with each other in their places of worship and pray and continue to tell each other they are on the correct path, and for atheists to meet only with each other and discuss humanistic things without superstitious influence.------------------------------------------------------------​True enough, but the proof has allways bean, that atheists are the most likely to start violence.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 788929

I am not sure if my experience is the same as yours. Muslims are strongly theistic and have shown a propensity for violence as their first response. The best example we have of a violent atheist state would be the USSR. They used a lot of violence internally to keep order. On the other hand strongly theistic groups like the Roman Church employed extreme cruelty and violence to maintain orthodoxy. This is offset by other strongly theistic groups like Quakers and Amish follow the principles that Jesus taught and eschew physical violence almost completely. Which other examples of atheistic violence can you offer to help round out the picture.

Re: christians dont like it when people make fun of their pnoney baloney bogus jesus character

Hey man, I really don't give a shit what you believe. My personal system of faith has nothing to do with any of the Abrahamic crap you dumbasses want to go to the mat for. You just need to understand that as long as you fucks keep trying to shove your personal belief systems down the throats of the rest of the world, along with your dumbass apocalyptic bullshit, you're gonna get a bit of pushback. Your big daddy version of Jesus oughtta be able to get you thru that just fine if ya fall on your knees and squeal like a little girl tonight, right? Cuz, from where I'm standing...you're squealing. So, again, shut up, stand down, quit with the antagonism and come back down to earth, OK, BrainwashBoy?

Interesting you should say this. When people say "god" are they only talking about the Abrahamic derivatives? Does that mean that you are an atheist if your hypothesis of the nature of God is different to those who hypothesize only one of the Abrahamic derivatives?

------------------------------------------------------------​Not in my own personal point of view. I think the three major religions...Xtianity, MOOzlims, and Joos...have each corrupted and twisted the entire concept of *GOD* so much that even their own adherents don't get it anymore...but that's just me. I have my own beliefs and thoughts, but no desire to go out and clonk others about the head to force them into my way of thinking...guess that makes me crazy, huh? Just wish they'd all chill the fuck out personally, they're getting on my nerves ALMOST as much as the hardcore Republicans and Democrats in the American political sphere.

Quoting: icondon

I have a personal hypothesis of God. It is vastly different to any of the Abrahamic derivatives. It is not a man like entity that micromanages human affairs, likes the smell of roasting meat and gets angry with human behavior. My view satisfies me and allows me to quietly and inoffensively get on with my own life. I agree that they should all just chill and believe what suits them in the privacy of their own homes and lives. There are many different belief systems, one to suit every person.

Re: christians dont like it when people make fun of their pnoney baloney bogus jesus character

.Maybe it was some other Anonymous Coward that got me all riled up then, I'm not sure. Personally, I'm not an atheist, but I do believe that ALL the three major religions need to just chill the hell out and maybe quit trying to bring about the end of the world. Is that really so much to ask? Basically, don't be a dumbass and you won't be called one. Doesn't matter to me whether you're Xtian, Joo, or MOOZlim, you all are starting to look kinda the same these days. Buncha jacked up violence ridden, hypocritical, nonsense speaking fools dragging the rest of the world down the violent dumbass rabbit hole you're all creating. It's disgusting. And quite frankly, not even amusing anymore.

Quoting: icondon

I have only asked for intelligent discourse on the subject and have not yet called for your head on a platter, or you hang in a public place so you deposit your normal bodily functions in public. There is a difference between the major religions of the day. Freethink yourself to facts, not emotionally charged opinions.

Do you actually equate people asking you not to profane what they consider the Lord, to murdering you in public to cause a scare?

If so, be proud in the dhimi you are. Sucking someones ass is always easier than being a man.

Re: christians dont like it when people make fun of their pnoney baloney bogus jesus character

Hey man, I really don't give a shit what you believe. My personal system of faith has nothing to do with any of the Abrahamic crap you dumbasses want to go to the mat for. You just need to understand that as long as you fucks keep trying to shove your personal belief systems down the throats of the rest of the world, along with your dumbass apocalyptic bullshit, you're gonna get a bit of pushback. Your big daddy version of Jesus oughtta be able to get you thru that just fine if ya fall on your knees and squeal like a little girl tonight, right? Cuz, from where I'm standing...you're squealing. So, again, shut up, stand down, quit with the antagonism and come back down to earth, OK, BrainwashBoy?

Interesting you should say this. When people say "god" are they only talking about the Abrahamic derivatives? Does that mean that you are an atheist if your hypothesis of the nature of God is different to those who hypothesize only one of the Abrahamic derivatives?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 987952

Interesting indeed.If you really look at the fundaments of the three monotheisms they're all based on a purely physical view of reality, with Spirit being "elsehere" and a rather frightening father figure who Judges.Dead bodies come to life on Judgement Day, and there is no after life, at least in the strictest interpretation.You could say they're dead religions for dead people who only come alive when they die(!).