One of these guys liked Daisy's performance in Awakens, but criticized the portrayal of Jin Urso? Rey is right there with Anakin as one of the worst realized characters in cinema history. Force Awakens was garbage from start to finish. Rogue at least has a decent ( but not great) third act which almost made up for the snooze fest first 90 minutes.

Its fine to scoff at all the callbacks/fan service in Rogue, but 7 could have been movie accurately titled :The Rehash.

"One of these guys liked Daisy's performance in Awakens, but criticized the portrayal of Jin Urso?"

Note how they want to say something good about Rey but can't; they try to say that her backstory is better but can't. They totally fumble with their words when they try to actually come up with any real reason why Rey wasn't complete garbage.

Honestly I think TFA is absolute trash. The characters are garbage and it ruined the whole world of Star Wars, turning all its heroes into miserable, pathetic failures.

Star Wars isn't constrained, but it is if you insist on making nothing but big tentpole movies. The whole blockbuster movie thing is what's constraining. The books continued on from the end of Jedi in a reasonable and relatively compelling way, at least a lot of them did. Luke started a Jedi academy on Yavin and trained a bunch of new Jedi, while the New Republic had skirmishes with the remnants of the Empire. All very logical.

The problem is to really continue the story you'd have to tell smaller stories that built to something big later. Since the good guys won, you can't have a galactic-level battle in every film, you'd have to establish a new enemy over time while telling smaller stories about, say, new Jedi recruits, or smaller-scale battles with the leftover Imperials. But Hollywood thinks you always have to up the ante, so we have to outdo the Death Star and make 3 out of 4 consecutive movies about blowing up a Death Star. It only seems limited because the suits that make all the decisions are limited in their thinking.

eidolon1109 said...Star Wars isn't constrained, but it is if you insist on making nothing but big tentpole movies.

not really.

it's not as if the desire for tentpole movies isn't an added constraint, it is.

but the real problem is the lack of story tellers in Hollywood.

because, in order to tell a good story, you ( as a creator ) MUST be able to respect all sides and characters within the story.

if neither the pro- nor antagonists are constrained by physical reality, codes of ethics ( it wuz good cuz the guy in the White Hat done dood it! ) or concern with anyone else ( Black Hat wants to destroy the Earth! why? doesn't that mean suicide for him? who knows? who cares! he's Black Hat, booooo ), there can be no good story telling.