While watching TTT tonight, I was reminded of something I've always kind of felt...when Sam and Frodo first see the Black Gate, the camera shows a close up of the gate and the orcs standing on top of it. Two orcs are engaged in a conversation, and for some reason I get the feeling that they are talking about something that is not at all work related...

I can almost hear the shorter one complaining, "So then you're not going to believe what she did next..." or "My mother in law is in town, what a pain..." In the movies Elrond, Denethor, Haldir, Galadriel, and Celeborn stink.

Which scene is this? I didn't notice the orcs at the top gate. Is this in the Extended Editions? Anyway, I'll have to see this scene. They could even be arguing about orc stuff like, "Which do you prefer tender man-flesh or tough man-flesh?" Or maybe even something totally off the wall like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY7_ZwgoeJM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY7_ZwgoeJM

...letting the trolls do all their dirty work. Goes to show that evil and lazy slaves will never get your ring back. 'What are we holding on to, Sam?' 'There's good in this world, Mr. Frodo, and it's worth fighting for!'

"If the Witch King thinks I'm coming in on Saturday to watch the gate, he's got another thing coming. I've got tix to go see the Battle of the Bands down by the Lake of Nurnen." In the movies Elrond, Denethor, Haldir, Galadriel, and Celeborn stink.

What about the last Easterns of the line that are entering the Black Gate when itīs getting closed?
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I can imagine this two orcs watching the Harads below laughing: Look at those two!

And this poor bugars who were near to find the ring are coming back to the line before the gate gets closed behind their feetI can not guarantee his safety - understood... Nor will I be responsible for his fate - Doh!

In the book, Sam and Pippin simply approach the Black Gate, have no clear idea of how they are going to get in, and are then offered Gollum's alternative route. I still cannot understand why PJ had Frodo and Sam actually start to run for the closing gate in broad daylight. A baffling decision.

Yeah, that was a pretty silly idea...they could have tried waiting til night, or figuring out some way of disguising themselves as Orcs, Easterlings, Southrons, etc. Maybe PJ just needed to have them do it so Gollum could stop them...IDK. In the movies Elrond, Denethor, Haldir, Galadriel, and Celeborn stink.