​It is getting harder and harder to separate the goofball claims of fringe historians from the horrific consequences that they have in the real world. Yesterday, I read a sad story about Christian discipline camps for unruly teenagers, mostly in the southern U.S., in which religious extremists allegedly use brutal methods to try to beat the “demon” of homosexuality out of gay teens. According to media reports, their methods involved beatings, isolation, verbal abuse, chokings, nude exercises, etc. But while these abuses are, sadly, nothing new in the Christian anti-gay conversion movement, what makes the story news today is that the governor of Alabama—himself under threat of impeachment over ethics violations related to allegations of sexual immorality, but with a woman—appointed the man who refused to prosecute such abuses, Luther Strange, as the state’s second U.S. senator. “These children are from out of state, and their parents don’t vote here, and I don’t want the churches mad at me,” Strange’s top deputy allegedly said to characterize his boss’s views, though Strange denies this.

​What isn’t in dispute is that in his position as attorney general of Alabama, Strange took little action to stop the abuses, and he has devoted his career to opposing gay marriage and gay rights in the name of “Christian” tolerance and morality.

This reminded me of the horrific views that Christian Nephilim theorists and creationists have espoused in terms of gay rights, views that seem to be shared across a broad range of the fringe history community.

Most of you reading this will remember Nephilim theorist Steve Quayle’s disturbing views on homosexuality. He believes homosexuality was introduced by the evil giants, even though the Bible makes no mention of this. (It’s an unusual interpretation of Jude 1:6-7.) He has made a number of statements that imply that he supports the death penalty for homosexuality. He specifically claims that the Nephilim were gay, that God authorized genocide against them for that purpose, and that homosexuals today are possessed by the spirits of gay Nephilim. The obvious conclusion from those propositions, which Quayle is smart enough not to state explicitly, is that gay people should be executed as demons. Quayle’s colleague L. A. Marzulli has similarly expressed his views that “homosexuals” are trying to impose a “gay agenda” on America, and he has even gone on long anti-gay rants about how the gays are secretly trying to control his life. “Why is three percent of the population dictating to the rest of us?” he asked in January. Marzulli, you will recall, is less extreme than Quayle and does not support imprisonment or execution for gays, only “conversion” to heterosexuality via prayer. Because that worked so well for the Nephilim.

Other Nephilim theorists and creationists have been similarly eager to condemn homosexuality. Pastor Douglas Van Dorn equated homosexuality with incest and bestiality in condemning the “lifestyle” of the Nephilim. The late Irish Nephilim theorist Patrick Heron, for example, wrote in his The Nephilim and the Pyramid of the Apocalypse that homosexuality was a “perversion” that deserves a “penalty,” and he asked his readers to be “tolerant” of his anti-gay bigotry because “we are constantly being asked to be tolerant of the gay community.” Similarly, Christian writer David Heron, writing in 2014’s Questions, took Nephilim theorizing to bizarre extremes, identifying the Nephilim with the Sons of God in Genesis 6:4 and both with the angels of heaven. He numbered the Nephilim at 60,000, but in noting that the “Nephilim” (i.e., Sons of God) had to descend to Earth to find sex, he expressed concern that this means that heaven is an all-male gay orgy, which is, for him, unacceptable: “Even though Moses, who said God told him everything, never mentioned any women in heaven, I hope that there is. If not, would there be gay behavior in heaven with so many men and no women?” Fascinating, isn’t it, that he doesn’t even consider whether women have inherent value, only whether they will be there to provide sex?

Creationist Ken Ham offers pretty much what you would expect in his Answers in Genesis ministry. There, Chris Barney declares homosexuality a sin, punishment for “past sin,” and in need of correction through conversion to heterosexuality. But even Ham seems now to recognize that this isn’t really an attitude that brings in new believers. He also has an article on how to spread the “truth” about homosexuality “without appearing to be unloving.”

But enough of the creationists and Nephilim theorists. We know what they will say. But it’s also interesting to note that the creationist attitudes brought in from Christianity seem to seep into the less directly Christian fringe history.

Consider how conservative-aligned ancient astronaut theorists reflect the same beliefs. We have long known that ancient astronaut theorist Erich von Däniken is uncomfortable with anything but traditional sex and gender roles. In 2012, for example, he decried that in our era “women act like men and the men act like women.”

David Wilcock said in 2013 that his “Cabal” of evil alien collaborators and conspirators was composed of murderous homosexuals: “In fact, it is being openly discussed that a ‘secret gay group’ has been running the show -- with murderous effectiveness. I guess that’s one way to describe the Cabal. Fair enough.” In 2014, he linked gay marriage with Satanism and sin: “Now in 2014, the Grammys featured a Luciferian ritual with Katy Perry that was highly over-the-top, plus a mass gay wedding of (ahem) 33 couples -- intended to anger conservatives.” On the other hand, Wilcock has avoided explicit anti-gay claims, even while expressing discomfort: “I am not attacking homosexuals here. I have been told that accusing me of homosexuality is simply another way to try to stigmatize and slander my work.” Wilcock also claimed that the Western media unfairly attacked Russia for oppressing gay people. He announced his full-throated support of Russia in 2013 and denied that Russian laws criminalizing the “promotion” of homosexuality were immoral or unfair. Wilcock, at the time, stated that Vladimir Putin is on the side of the “good” aliens, the Alliance, against the homosexual liberal Democrat aliens known as the Cabal that ran the U.S. government until Donald Trump took office. I’m not one prone to conspiracy theories, but Wilcock’s support of Trump and Putin, as well as his paid appearance on a Russian anti-American propaganda show in 2013 and his use of dubious Russian “research” over the past few years almost begs us to see him as a stooge of the Putin government. It seems laughable that the Russians would even bother feeding a nobody like Wilcock propaganda, but it seems difficult to explain his consistent and outspoken Russophile beliefs.

I’m sure I could collect many more examples, but the bottom line remains the same: Weird ideas about the past continue to be proposed and used to justify political and social positions. Sure, at one level we could argue that the obsession with homosexuality is a consequence of focusing on demons and aliens as violations of the so-called natural order, but that would be to take these stories as literary rather than polemical. These claims about history aren’t just goofball rants or creative writing exercises but a serious program of propaganda aimed at creating a broader base of justification for specific social and political actions.

That first story made me sick. The reality of whackjobs calling for genocide against homosexuals is more sickening. Who's next on their list?

Great observation, by the way, on David Heron's view of Heaven.

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LlwellyntheLast

3/14/2017 03:09:24 pm

I just find it amazing that these claims have enough of a base to keep those crazies employed spinning their webs

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Only Me

3/14/2017 04:31:43 pm

Well, I was watching some YouTube just minutes ago and I happened to look to the videos on the right side of the screen to see this:

"The Fallen Angels Imprisoned in Antarctica and are still Alive!"

The video is listed as "NEW" and at this time has almost 12K views.

Brian

3/14/2017 11:31:16 am

Probably Wilcock first sought out the Russian propaganda as support for his insanity, then later was deemed someone it was worthwhile to support actively, since Putin & Co. see anyone who attacks rationality as a valid weapon in their anti-West arsenal.

And regarding the extreme, frothing anti-gay agenda of these witting or unwitting propagandists, well ... how does one keep the broad brush in the can and not start crying "Closet-case"? About those conversion camps, it's always been obvious that many people would rather kill their children than see them turn into autonomous people.

It's hard not to go full-blown conspiracy minded, seeing the incredible, vast, deep corruption that's already been freed by this administration and the Russian attacks on the USA, Netherlands, France, and Germany. Having been a witness to one small-scale conspiracy, I've always acknowledged conspiracies exist; let's just keep to the real ones, okay?

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Shane Sullivan

3/14/2017 12:03:58 pm

It's also possible Wilcock was invited to appear on Russian television--as you said, because his attacks on rationality and his general conspiracy espousal made him seem useful--and only then started gobbling up their, erm, "research".

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bkd69

3/14/2017 11:42:28 am

I wonder how much of that is driven by the tastes of the American marketplace?

As I've noted before, David Icke's various cabals of Illuminati and reptoids and freemasons seem much more concerned about making time for paedophilia, as opposed to regular ol' homosexuality, which I think is more representative of the UK's tastes in moral outrage.

That's always the underlying issue, isn't it? Conspiracy theories, to be successful, have to appeal to preexisting attitudes and values, if only among a significant minority of the population. If they don't have that connection, they wither on the vine. I wonder if that's one reason that so many of the British fringe types never manage to cross over to success in the American market.

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LlwellyntheLast

3/14/2017 03:11:25 pm

I think America has enough of its own fringe elements. Speaking of which, how big do you think these groups are? They keep a decent number of people employed spreading their theories

DR HALSEY

3/14/2017 02:21:15 pm

A bit off-topic, Jason, but I'm curious if you've heard about the Vigilant Christian Mario on Youtube? He covers a lot of the same fringey stuff that you mention here, but from an evangelical Christian perspective. Lots of Illuminati, New World Order stuff. Everything is Satanic, Gnostic, Babylonian, Luciferian, or whatever -ic or -ian suits your fancy. He's been going on an anti-Islam kick recently due to the issue of refugees, but even this is linked to a "globalist" agenda to him. With the appeal and following YouTubers get, I just wonder if he has cross your radar yet? He hasn't ranted about Nephilim yet, but it seems like only a matter of time.

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David Bradbury

3/14/2017 04:48:56 pm

As Lumière the candlestick said last night about the controversy over LeFou in "Beauty and the Beast":
"He's a gay character- and it's 2017 for [bleep]s sake."

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Day Late and Dollar Short

3/16/2017 11:06:42 am

Lumiere has been gay for decades...

For fucks sake, the gay characters are Cogsworth and Lumiere and Disney is shilling for public approval. They made the wrong choice. Simple.

Sounds like Saturday night sexy time to me. Sometimes you gotta lay wood to get wood, amirite?

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Loch Jessy

3/15/2017 01:19:21 am

"I'm not one prone to conspiracy theories, but Wilcock’s support of Trump and Putin, as well as his paid appearance on a Russian anti-American propaganda show in 2013 and his use of dubious Russian “research” over the past few years almost begs us to see him as a stooge of the Putin government."

I don't think this is an outlandish theory at all. It makes a lot of sense. These conspiracy con artists have a massive platform that I believe is being used as what you said, propaganda. I found it also particularly interesting in David's most recent released video (the one you wrote about yesterday), that about halfway through David remarks that people on the internet think he's gay, and he makes sure to tell people that he's not gay, to which Corey Goode says, "Doth protest too much, David?" and David says, 'Oh, we're not going there!"

"Weird ideas about the past continue to be proposed and used to justify political and social positions. "

"These claims about history aren’t just goofball rants or creative writing exercises but a serious program of propaganda aimed at creating a broader base of justification for specific social and political actions. "

Oh man, nail on the head right here, Jason. The kind of research I do is looking at all of this through an intersectional framework, particularly through the lens of masculinities.
Really love your blog!

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Bob Jase

3/15/2017 02:39:18 pm

Progressive relevation - when you absolutely, positively need an excuse to act like a monster.

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Chattanookee

11/13/2017 11:05:08 pm

David recently talked about "projection"... As a means of deflecting the truth about ones own actions, by claiming someone else has done the same thing.. Me thinketh he projecteth too much...

But seriously, I enjoy his conferences online, the topics, but it really hurts when he feels he must refute being gay or homosexual as he often refers, as though it's something dirty.. And it pains me to know that he should be smart enough to discern this is a troll ploy to discredit him not in the eyes of his viewers, but in his own eyes. But why should it even bother someone, if they truly believe in a quasi spiritual universal consciousness? To claim one doesn't have anything against gay people, but yet not uphold us either? Doesn't that beg for Karma in his Law of One?

If the statements he purported to have made in 2013 are true, it further supports others claims that he is gay, was abused in the past, and as a result self-loathes. Been there, and made it through the other side. Might explain why he's sick quite often due to the internalized self-hate, as opposed to the Cabal making him sick. As for his politics, he goes wherever the wind blows politically.. This August he's blasted the president and his wife..

I just wished he was more authentic.. If one is heterosexual, homosexual, sapiosexual, asexual/aromantic, just own it.. But you don't have to constantly in your blogs, deny this or that.. You don't' have to bring it UP! You don't have to pretend to have had a girlfriend during this decade or other decade.

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