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If we made a lunar colony and made a church, who would have legitimate jurisdiction?

Would we have Russian and Greek churches both claiming jurisdiction? After all, it would be churches made by immigrants, and if they are Russians they would want to be under the Russian church! but then Americans would be there too, and say it is under the patriarchate of Constantinople!

and then Jerusalem would claim one of the Antioch's asteroids as being theirs!

Which Jurisdiction actually is located in a space-faring nation? (Hint they were the first ones in space...)

The Russian Orthodox Autonomous Church?

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"as [you've] informed us that respect chills love, it is natural to conclude that all your pretty flights arise from your pampered sensibility; and that, vain of this fancied preeminence of organs, you foster every emotion till the fumes, mounting to your brain, dispel the sober suggestions of reason. It is not in this view surprising that when you should argue you become impassioned, and that reflection inflames your imagination instead of enlightening your understanding." - Mary Wollstonecraft

Then the Russians will give one of their asteroids to America but the Greeks will become greedy and jealous and so they'll claim it for themselves last minute and then the Antiochians and other jurisdictions will all place their flag on that little asteroid as well and the American asteroid will have to keep suffering this confusion for ages because the Greeks don't like the Russians.

Russia may have been the first in space, but they were not the first to land anywhere. Since the American flag, planted by our astronauts, flies on the Moon, I think the Mother Church of space is the OCA.

"as [you've] informed us that respect chills love, it is natural to conclude that all your pretty flights arise from your pampered sensibility; and that, vain of this fancied preeminence of organs, you foster every emotion till the fumes, mounting to your brain, dispel the sober suggestions of reason. It is not in this view surprising that when you should argue you become impassioned, and that reflection inflames your imagination instead of enlightening your understanding." - Mary Wollstonecraft

Russia may have been the first in space, but they were not the first to land anywhere. Since the American flag, planted by our astronauts, flies on the Moon, I think the Mother Church of space is the OCA.

There are other churches in America besides the OCA. Besides, we don't need to bring the "slavic hegemony" to the moon as well. I'm sick of it here.

Russia may have been the first in space, but they were not the first to land anywhere. Since the American flag, planted by our astronauts, flies on the Moon, I think the Mother Church of space is the OCA.

There are other churches in America besides the OCA. Besides, we don't need to bring the "slavic hegemony" to the moon as well. I'm sick of it here.

Well I guess it would be hard to have burning incense, candles, and other things in space.

Frankly speaking, I think mankind is going to do himself in, or the world will end before we become that technologically advanced.

Haven't there already been Orthodox in space stations? I wonder if any of them were practicing and took any devotional items with them to use.

Yes. Our parish has a mounted print of an icon of St. Michael, the original of which was commissioned on our centennial in 2004, which flew on one of the NASA space shuttle missions to the ISS. A NASA physician from our parish was the on ground medical officer for the mission and he arranged for the transport. The print had very specific weight for the paper requirements.

Russia may have been the first in space, but they were not the first to land anywhere. Since the American flag, planted by our astronauts, flies on the Moon, I think the Mother Church of space is the OCA.

There are other churches in America besides the OCA. Besides, we don't need to bring the "slavic hegemony" to the moon as well. I'm sick of it here.

Russia may have been the first in space, but they were not the first to land anywhere. Since the American flag, planted by our astronauts, flies on the Moon, I think the Mother Church of space is the OCA.

There are other churches in America besides the OCA. Besides, we don't need to bring the "slavic hegemony" to the moon as well. I'm sick of it here.

Many Energies, 3 Persons, 2 Natures, 1 God, 1 Church, 1 Baptism, and 1 Cup. The Son begotten only from the Father, the Spirit proceeding only from the Father, Each glorifying the Other. The Son sends the Spirit, the Spirit Reveals the Son, the Father is seen in the Son. The Spirit spoke through the Prophets and Fathers and does so even today.

Russia may have been the first in space, but they were not the first to land anywhere. Since the American flag, planted by our astronauts, flies on the Moon, I think the Mother Church of space is the OCA.

There are other churches in America besides the OCA. Besides, we don't need to bring the "slavic hegemony" to the moon as well. I'm sick of it here.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who can watch the watchmen?"No one is paying attention to your post reports"Why do posters that claim to have me blocked keep sending me pms and responding to my posts? That makes no sense.

I've nothing against a Slavic Orthodox hegemony in space…or at least in parts of space. My chiefest concern is when the Orthodox population of Martian colonies becomes large and stable enough are we going to see another calendar controversy because our liturgical calendar is only roughly half as long as the Martian year (686.98 earth days or 668.59 martian days). Will the liturgical year be stretched to fill the Martian year and we skip every other earth Pascha…or will we impose the particulars of a antiquated 1st century calendar on the faithful of a whole new world? Will we use earth days or martian days to track liturgical time…otherwise, even if we keep the framework of the Julian…or the New Julian calendar, they will still rapidly fall out of sync because day length is slightly different (martian day 24 hours 39 minutes). Will we see a new threat of schism over the calendar (True old old calendrists/Earth Julian with earth days; Old old Calendrists/Earth Julian with martian days; True Old New Calendrist/ New Calendar with earth days; Old New Calendrist/New Calendar with martian days; New Old Day Calendrists/Martian year extended but using earth days; and New New Day Calendrists/Martian year extended and martian day). It will take the calling of the first pan Orthodox Space Council to settle the issue…if the new Robot Overlords do not interfere..

Saturnalian Orthodox Church. Kinda sounds like a cult to me. Maybe we shouldn't have named the planets after Roman gods...

Earth and Uranus are NOT Roman.

Thank you for that tidbit of information. I suppose I should have said: Maybe we shouldn't have named the planets after Roman gods except for Uranus which was Greek and Earth which is a derivation of the proto-germanic word erthō.

When we start traveling at the speed of light and time begins to warp, how do we keep to the proper calendar?

Problems, problems, problems.

Good thing we solved the ones we have, so we have the free time to solve the ones we make up.

I hate Scholasticism.

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When we start traveling at the speed of light and time begins to warp, how do we keep to the proper calendar?

Problems, problems, problems.

Good thing we solved the ones we have, so we have the free time to solve the ones we make up.

I hate Scholasticism.

You do know this is all satire, right?

Scholasticism?

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Well I guess it would be hard to have burning incense, candles, and other things in space.

Frankly speaking, I think mankind is going to do himself in, or the world will end before we become that technologically advanced.

Icons travel quite fine in space.veneration is easy too.

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If we made a lunar colony and made a church, who would have legitimate jurisdiction?

The lunatic church.

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St. Martin of Braga one of the Iberic Fathers of the Church, and a Portuguese Orthodox saint managed to change the name of week days from Pagan names to Christian names in a local council. Don't remember if Braga I or II.

, and that's why Portuguese is the only Romance language paganless in its week days names.

He also tried to change the name of the planets but that didn't work out so well.

Maybe we should rescue his efforts and in the space era of the Church rename the planets.

Saturnalian Orthodox Church. Kinda sounds like a cult to me. Maybe we shouldn't have named the planets after Roman gods...

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Many Energies, 3 Persons, 2 Natures, 1 God, 1 Church, 1 Baptism, and 1 Cup. The Son begotten only from the Father, the Spirit proceeding only from the Father, Each glorifying the Other. The Son sends the Spirit, the Spirit Reveals the Son, the Father is seen in the Son. The Spirit spoke through the Prophets and Fathers and does so even today.

Russia may have been the first in space, but they were not the first to land anywhere. Since the American flag, planted by our astronauts, flies on the Moon, I think the Mother Church of space is the OCA.

Is this really possible?Mars One is not the first organization to ponder the idea of a manned mission to Mars. There have been many plans to do just this. And yet, none have come to fruition. Why should Mars One succeed?

There are several reasons, as described in some detail, below:

•Emigration – The Mars One astronauts will depart Earth assuming that they will never return. This radically changes the mission requirements, reducing the need for return vehicles associated with currently unavailable technologies and far greater costs.•Solar panels – Through the use of this simple, robust, and plentiful energy source, Mars One does not require the development and launch of a nuclear reactor, thereby saving time and money while avoiding the risks and concerns for use of a nuclear power source.•Simple rovers – Through the use of relatively simple rovers, designed to conduct basic settlement construction prior to human astronaut arrival, saving both time and cost.•No new developments – The entire plan revolves around the use of existing, validated technology•No politics – Suppliers are chosen on a balance of price and quality, not through political or national preferences.

The Journey to MarsThe flight will take between seven to eight months (depending upon the relative positions of the Earth and Mars). The astronauts will spend those seven months together in a very small space—much smaller than the home base at the settlement on Mars—devoid of luxury or frills. This will not be easy. Showering with water will not be an option. Instead the astronauts make do with wet towelettes (wet wipes) as used by astronauts on the International Space Station.

Freeze dried and canned food is the only option. There will be constant noise from the ventilators, computer and life support systems, and a regimented routine of 3 hours daily exercise in order to maintain muscle mass. If the astronauts are hit by a solar storm, they must take refuge in the even smaller, sheltered area of the rocket which provides the best protection, for up to several days.

The journey will be arduous, pressing each of them to the very limits of their training and personal capacity. But the astronauts will endure because this will be the flight carrying them to their dream.

Life on MarsOnce they arrive on Mars, the astronauts will begin making use of their relatively spacious living units; over 50 m2 per person, and a total of more than 200 m2 combined interior space.

Within the settlement are inflatable components which contain bedrooms, working areas, a living room and a 'plant production unit', where they will grow greenery. They will also be able to shower as normal, prepare fresh food (that they themselves grew and harvested) in the kitchen, wear regular clothes, and, in essence, lead typical day-to-day lives.

If the astronauts leave the settlement, they have to wear a Mars Suit. However, all living spaces are connected by passageways, in order for the astronauts to move freely from one end of the settlement to the other. As the rovers have done much of the heavy construction prior to their arrival, it will not take the astronauts a long time to find routine in their new life, moving into carrying out valuable construction works and research.

Many Energies, 3 Persons, 2 Natures, 1 God, 1 Church, 1 Baptism, and 1 Cup. The Son begotten only from the Father, the Spirit proceeding only from the Father, Each glorifying the Other. The Son sends the Spirit, the Spirit Reveals the Son, the Father is seen in the Son. The Spirit spoke through the Prophets and Fathers and does so even today.

Russia may have been the first in space, but they were not the first to land anywhere. Since the American flag, planted by our astronauts, flies on the Moon, I think the Mother Church of space is the OCA.

And the OCA would probably send Metropolitan Jonah there.

When I made that first comment, I was hoping for some fun responses, but I got taken seriously. Thanks, Father, for hitting the "reset" button.

Russia may have been the first in space, but they were not the first to land anywhere. Since the American flag, planted by our astronauts, flies on the Moon, I think the Mother Church of space is the OCA.

And the OCA would probably send Metropolitan Jonah there.

When I made that first comment, I was hoping for some fun responses, but I got taken seriously. Thanks, Father, for hitting the "reset" button.

If an Orthodox bishop had his See on the Moon, would he be guilty for the Moon's role in regulating the tides? Would it be considered an uncanonical activity on the canonical territory of other jurisdictions?

A monk on Mt. Athos is a ham radio operator who has already been sharing the faith in space. Here's his story. There's some pictures too if you follow this link:http://www.qrz.com/db/SV2ASP

"One of the most unforgettable encounters I have ever had though was with Russian cosmonaut Valery Korzun, with whom I used to have daily QSOs and digital photograph exchanges during his 6-month mission on the ISS in 2002. During his visit to my monastery, I showed him my radio shack, from where I used to talk to him. I also showed him the chandelier where every night I used to lighten a candle for him and his crew to our miraculous icon of the Mother of God ‘Quick to Hearken’. It was a very moving encounter indeed – one beyond words and imagination." - Monk Apollo

If an Orthodox bishop had his See on the Moon, would he be guilty for the Moon's role in regulating the tides? Would it be considered an uncanonical activity on the canonical territory of other jurisdictions?