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I wanted to address the recruiting issue I brought up earlier.
I know personally of three top flight basketball players who went East to go to school because the recruiters told them all of their games will be on National TV (ESPN & CBS)and the PAC-10 (it was the Pac-10 then) games aren't seen in the East. I'm sure it's a little better now, but considering the DirecTV is the country's second largest provider, it still could be an issue.

I'm so glad I recorded the game. It will be scary to watch it again. Both teams often looked pretty miserable. In fact, of the four units, the offensive and defensive squads for both teams, only Stanford's defense looked good for most of the game.

But we won! Go Cardinal! Over the years, Stanford has lost so many games by a field goal to those blankity blanks.

This whole situation has turned into one big clusterfunk.
Both sides attacking each other publicly.
DirecTV vs. Pac-12.
I could see it become an epic "VS" showdown.
The old "Versus" channel should come back and televise their conversations and public outcries.

So far, as a DirecTV subscriber on the Ice-Foundland peninsula, with no PAC12 Network,I got to see the 1st week PAC12 football inter-conference games of significance (upsets):WISC @ OSUOKST @ UAand of course NEB @ UCLA.I got to see the 2nd week conference marquee matchupUSC @ STANand now will get to watch the women's volleyball #1 UCLA @ #2 USC matchup on ESPNU.

I have in addition to all the local/affiliate networks and subchannels via OTA, I have both LA & NY DNS for all ABC/CBS/CW/FOX/NBC/PBS and Premiere so I get all of the ESPN's and 600 regionals.The LA DNS picks up west coast regional matchups, filling in a lot of PAC12 matchups which I normally would not get on my local or the east coast DNS. (I usually end up with 3X the selections the non-DNS has).

So a significant number of the revenue (FB & BB) AND the non-revenue'rs (Womens VB) look like they'll make their way from the PAC12 network suite onto the national stage.I watch a wide range of NCAA sports, but almost exclusively matchups of national importance only.I don't watch soccer, but I watched every World Cup and Olympic match I could.

I'll catch a lacrosse game... if Johns Hopkins is playing Duke for example.I'll catch women's softball... if UCLA is playing UA, and women's water polo if STAN is playing UCB.Women's VB is one of the offerings of the PAC12 network, which was going to set it apart... that all of these traditionally non-televised sports were going to be available, all season games for all conference schools... but you'd be out of luck if you didn't have the PAC12 network(s).Sure looks to me like the PAC12 is shooting itself in the foot.If the PAC12 intends to sell off any high profile sport/matchup to the highest bidder, then I'm seeing a rapidly diminishing reason for me to even care if a deal ever gets done.And even if it did, whether I'd see the value of it to me given my personal viewing preferences.Certainly if there is any premium cost associated with it... even as little as $5 per month, if I would be inclined to pick it up.

I've officially migrated to the "PAC12... Who cares?" camp, until I see evidence down the road to the contrary...

This is just ridiculous. I'm still in a Directv contract, but I keep hearing from those who have switched to DISH that they love it.. Also, last night they opened up Volleyball channels on the DISH in HD. WOW. I'd be real curious to see what the 3rd Qtr earnings are for Directv..

This is just ridiculous. I'm still in a Directv contract, but I keep hearing from those who have switched to DISH that they love it.. Also, last night they opened up Volleyball channels on the DISH in HD. WOW. I'd be real curious to see what the 3rd Qtr earnings are for Directv..

As usual, they'll be stronger than Dish Network's. The lack of PAC-12 will have very little impact, if any at all. Consider how many customers out of 20 million might be true PAC-12 fans, then consider how many of those people are under a commitment, and finally consider how many of those folks would pay an ETF for this or are out of contract and would leave. The pool of potential defectors just keeps getting smaller. Some churn occurs when a major network is dropped. This may not even register.

As usual, they'll be stronger than Dish Network's. The lack of PAC-12 will have very little impact, if any at all. Consider how many customers out of 20 million might be true PAC-12 fans, then consider how many of those people are under a commitment, and finally consider how many of those folks would pay an ETF for this or are out of contract and would leave. The pool of potential defectors just keeps getting smaller. Some churn occurs when a major network is dropped. This may not even register.

Maybe with the people who really don't care for Pac12, but for me along with quite a few people on the west coast or those with PAC12 affiliation, this is a big deal.. I keep reading how people are impressed with the Hopper as well.

But just like people are leaving Directv for Pac12, others are leaving Dish because of AMC.. Instead of speculating, I think it would be interesting to see the 3rd quarter results.. To answer your point about cancel fees, I did the math.. I can easily pay for the 1 year left within 3 months of new contract with DISH. I'm sure you're right that PAC12 doesn't resonate with all 20 million subs, but the West coast is big enough for a sizable dent of defectors.

BTW, I'm not jumping ship yet, but I do keep thinking about it.. I wonder how much longer it takes me to finally persuade the family to take a different direction.