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Newly released photo shows bloodied George Zimmerman from night of Trayvon Martin incident

Newly released photo shows bloodied George Zimmerman from night of Trayvon Martin incident

A newly-released, graphic photo of George Zimmerman, taken the
night of his fateful confrontation with Florida teen Trayvon Martin,
shows the accused killer with a bloody face.

Zimmerman’s legal team released the photo, which they believe
bolsters their case that Zimmerman, 29, was being beaten when he fatally
shot the 17-year-old Martin in the chest. The photo was taken by police
and only released to Zimmerman’s team recently, said Zimmerman’s
lawyer. Previously, the team only had a black-and-white photocopy of the
picture.

“That's really one of my frustrations. They originally submitted a
black and white photo so we asked for a color copy. They then submitted a
color photo copy that was drab," said Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara
to Foxnews.com.

"We kept asking for a digital copy and then we had to file a motion [in court] to have it submitted."

O'Mara says that the discovery phase has been rife with issues.

"It just seems like it's been pulling teeth for discovery in this case," he said.

Martin was killed Feb. 26, in a confrontation that sparked a national
debate on race, guns and Florida’s controversial Stand Your Ground law,
which states that people under attack do not have a duty to try to
retreat before using deadly force.

Martin’s defenders say the youth was merely cutting through a gated
community in Sanford, Fla., after picking up snacks during halftime of
the NBA All-Star game when Zimmerman, a volunteer neighborhood watch
captain, racially profiled him. Zimmerman claims the youth acted
suspiciously, and attacked him, bashing his head against a sidewalk.

Zimmerman told investigators he grabbed his gun from a holster on his
waist before Martin could get it, and shot the teenager once in the
chest. A tape released by his lawyer shows two butterfly bandages on the
back of Zimmerman's head and another on his nose.

Zimmerman’s lawyers said the photocopy of the image was provided by
the prosecutors in the first round of discovery. The high-resolution
digital file was finally provided to the defense on Oct. 29, and defense
attorneys have said they will make all public documents related to the
case available on their website.

Prosecutors had asked for the gag order, claiming a website and
social media used by Zimmerman's attorney could influence potential
jurors in the racially charged case.

On Monday, Zimmerman's defense team publicly released a motion, filed the same day, asking for the additional deposition of one of the lead investigators due to information that surfaced during his original interview on Nov. 19th.

Requests for comment to special prosecutor Angela Corey's office were not immediately returned.

I don't know if Zimmerman was justified or not. I wasn't there and am not sure what happens. We will have to wait until the summer until this goes to trial.

All the photo shows is his nose looks broken. :) It doesn't reallly show anything else. If Zimmerman could have gotten away or had other options once the fight started, then I agree, he had no right to shoot him.

Quoting CrazyLife1996:

He still had no right to shoot him.

Realistically I would have beat the hell out of him too.

All of this could have been avoided if Zimmerman had followed the direction of the operator.

Except he was notr carrying the main ingredient...you know, the one that makes you high.

Just FYI, I have seen a lot of people swearing that mixing fruit drinks and skittles will make you high. Except they forget to mention that you have to add the drug to do it. And Martin didn't have it on him or in him.

Furthermore doesn't matter. How would Zimmerman know if Martin was on drugs or not. (He wasn't.)

Quoting momtimesx4:

More places than that.

Even that ass-hat Nancy Grace called it lean. Putting it into the public eye even more.

Doesn't not matter how it is really made. The term and connection is already out there.

Quoting ashellbell:

Lol I did google it. LMAO.. A BLOG.FROM THE CONSERVATIVETREE.COM. Lol that's some funny shit. Yup, must be true. Eyeroll.

LMAO...When I said I never thought to call the cops I was referring to the argument. This is hilarious. I'm the daughter of a murdered mother, my compassion for victims runs deep. I don't abuse children, in fact at volunteer with children who've lost parents in a horrendous fashion as I did. You are cracking me up. Keep 'em coming!!!!

Quoting AMBG825:

Which story should we believe? The original story or the one you changed after having your very inhumane and disgusting actions called out? How convenient that you can change things when it's pointed out they make no sense. First it was the 9-1-1 calls didn't exist. You never heard any of them ...at least until they were posted in the thread. Then it was there was no one else that heard anything until it was linked that there were witnesses who also called police.

Then you make up a story as to why people should resort to violence to solve their problems about how you witnessed an argument that ended with a shooting and never once thought to call police. When told that it was a very disgusting thing for you to do to not call for help for someone who had been a victim of your mentality suddenly the story changed. It goes from "I never once thought to call the police" to "I immediately called the police."

Why in the world would anyone take advice from such a disturbed and disgusting subhuman creature. Next you'll be telling us how you torture children for fun and set animals on fire.

Quoting ashellbell:

Lol @ your last statement. I didn't see anyone get shot, I saw the argument. The cops were immediately called after we heard gunfire. Facepalm.

Quoting AMBG825:

The only way I would cheer if he got off is if it causes a stupid law to be changed.

Of course cheering that a stupid law finally gets seen for it's stupidity and wanting it changed is not nearly as disgusting as watching someone get shot and not thinking to call police. But hey. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Quoting ashellbell:

I have no doubt he'll get off. That's the saddest part of all. Zimmerman is a proven violent liar. Why would I believe Martin attacked first? For someone who claims he was getting the life beat out of him, the evidence doesn't prove that. Martin had one small abrasion on his knuckle. Yeah, sure. The proven liar claims Martin attacked first. How convenient that he's dead. You can cheer all day long when the disgusting murderer gets off, he's still a murderer, just with a little fan club. Yay!

Quoting AMBG825:

And how were you to know that it would go from arguing to shooting? Is that a common occurance in your life? Do your friends normally get into an argument and then start shooting at each other? I just don't see how it's a comparable scenario. People get into arguments all the time without them ending up with someone dead.

You know what you can predict happening without being Miss Cleo? Confronting someone you think is stalking you and having it end with someone being dead. If someone is following you around and you start fighting with them, someone probably is going to wind up seriously injured or dead as happened in this case.

The first rule of keeping yourself safe is to try to get away. Call the police. Go to a well lit public place. Find other people. Basically you should walk away unless you can't possibly do so. That is the rule that Zimmerman broke and it's the same rule Martin broke. Fighting a person when you can walk away is going to increase your chances of an altercation escalating by 100%.

And you know what, the responses you guys are giving reinforces my belief that Zimmerman will get off. The standard of proof is "beyond reasonable doubt." As stated previously, following Martin was not illegal. Confronting Martin was not illegal. Zimmerman's defense is Martin attacked first which IS illegal. There is evidence to support that. And guess what, if there are so many people willing to sit there and say they would attack Zimmerman too simply for being an annoying asshole, it's not UNREASONABLE to believe that Martin was the one that attacked. If you and everyone else is going to sit here and tell the world you would attack Zimmerman too, what makes anyone think Martin wouldn't have either?

Quoting ashellbell:

No but it seemed to be escalating. I still kick myself in the ass for not doing so.

Quoting AMBG825:

Well what you meant and what you said were different things. Why would you call for an argument? Is arguing illegal in your state?

Quoting ashellbell:

Whaaaaat? Lol they were ARGUING when I passed them, after the gun shots, we called the.cops. I meant I never thought to call seeing an argument. Wow.

Quoting AMBG825:

I probably wouldn't go around telling people that story. That says volumes about you as a person. So not only would you kill someone for simply following you, if someone is lying in the street after being shot, you'd leave them there to die. Not even bother to call an ambulance.

Nice. Very humane too BTW.

Quoting ashellbell:

Do you have evidence that Trayvon swung first? We have two people, one has a detailed history of violence, the other doesn't, why is it you assume the one who doesn't swung first? Not too long ago, I was walking to the store late at night (I live in a hippie community where violence rarely occurs and it was warm out), as I was walking I heard two men arguing, it sounded rather heated but I was almost to the store so I just stepped.up my pace so I could avoid dealing with it. I get in to the store and five minutes later, BOOM BOOM BOOM. One of the guys shot the other. It never once occurred to me to call the cops. Maybe Trayvon felt he was almost home, therefore safe.

Quoting AMBG825:

And how difficult would it have been for Martin to dial 9-1-1 instead of his girlfriend to tell the police someone was following him. I understand that most people don't have a problem with resorting to violence for being asked who are you and why are you here, but that still doesn't mean it was the right thing to do.

Quoting ashellbell:

Only one party was in the wrong...that was the party who didn't follow instructions from the police. How difficult would it have been to say "my name is George Zimmerman, I'm with neighborhood watch, I've called the police, I have a gun, what is your business here?" How difficult would it have been to keep his ass in the car? SYG is not valid when you stalk and chase someone and they defend themselves with their FIST and not a weapon.

Quoting AMBG825:

IMO, both Martin and Zimmerman did the wrong thing. And let me state that just because most of us would have done one thing or the other doesn't mean that it is the right thing to do.

What should have happened is that Zimmerman should have never confronted Martin and Martin should have called police the minute he realized someone was following him. Since Martin was on the phone with his girlfriend at the time, he obviously had a phone. Or he could have instructed her to call police for him.

HOWEVER, in the altercation they were both still wrong. Following Martin and asking him who he was and what he was doing wasn't illegal. If you are in my neighborhood, whether I'm the neighborhood watch or not, I am not doing anything illegal by following you around. Punching someone because they are bothering you IS illegal.

So to recap. Both parties were in the wrong. Zimmerman shouldn't have followed him and Martin should have called police rather than his girlfriend. Zimmerman shouldn't have confronted him and Martin shouldn't have punched him. One wrong does not negate the other. It is unfortunate, with the way the law is written, Zimmerman will probably get off. If he serves time, it will more likely than not, NOT be for murder or manslaughter. The minute Martin punched Zimmerman, the Stand your Ground law went into effect.

Yawn. Keep digging. Do those children's parents know how disturbed you are?

Quoting ashellbell:

LMAO...When I said I never thought to call the cops I was referring to the argument. This is hilarious. I'm the daughter of a murdered mother, my compassion for victims runs deep. I don't abuse children, in fact at volunteer with children who've lost parents in a horrendous fashion as I did. You are cracking me up. Keep 'em coming!!!!

Quoting AMBG825:

Which story should we believe? The original story or the one you changed after having your very inhumane and disgusting actions called out? How convenient that you can change things when it's pointed out they make no sense. First it was the 9-1-1 calls didn't exist. You never heard any of them ...at least until they were posted in the thread. Then it was there was no one else that heard anything until it was linked that there were witnesses who also called police.

Then you make up a story as to why people should resort to violence to solve their problems about how you witnessed an argument that ended with a shooting and never once thought to call police. When told that it was a very disgusting thing for you to do to not call for help for someone who had been a victim of your mentality suddenly the story changed. It goes from "I never once thought to call the police" to "I immediately called the police."

Why in the world would anyone take advice from such a disturbed and disgusting subhuman creature. Next you'll be telling us how you torture children for fun and set animals on fire.

Quoting ashellbell:

Lol @ your last statement. I didn't see anyone get shot, I saw the argument. The cops were immediately called after we heard gunfire. Facepalm.

Quoting AMBG825:

The only way I would cheer if he got off is if it causes a stupid law to be changed.

Of course cheering that a stupid law finally gets seen for it's stupidity and wanting it changed is not nearly as disgusting as watching someone get shot and not thinking to call police. But hey. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Quoting ashellbell:

I have no doubt he'll get off. That's the saddest part of all. Zimmerman is a proven violent liar. Why would I believe Martin attacked first? For someone who claims he was getting the life beat out of him, the evidence doesn't prove that. Martin had one small abrasion on his knuckle. Yeah, sure. The proven liar claims Martin attacked first. How convenient that he's dead. You can cheer all day long when the disgusting murderer gets off, he's still a murderer, just with a little fan club. Yay!

Quoting AMBG825:

And how were you to know that it would go from arguing to shooting? Is that a common occurance in your life? Do your friends normally get into an argument and then start shooting at each other? I just don't see how it's a comparable scenario. People get into arguments all the time without them ending up with someone dead.

You know what you can predict happening without being Miss Cleo? Confronting someone you think is stalking you and having it end with someone being dead. If someone is following you around and you start fighting with them, someone probably is going to wind up seriously injured or dead as happened in this case.

The first rule of keeping yourself safe is to try to get away. Call the police. Go to a well lit public place. Find other people. Basically you should walk away unless you can't possibly do so. That is the rule that Zimmerman broke and it's the same rule Martin broke. Fighting a person when you can walk away is going to increase your chances of an altercation escalating by 100%.

And you know what, the responses you guys are giving reinforces my belief that Zimmerman will get off. The standard of proof is "beyond reasonable doubt." As stated previously, following Martin was not illegal. Confronting Martin was not illegal. Zimmerman's defense is Martin attacked first which IS illegal. There is evidence to support that. And guess what, if there are so many people willing to sit there and say they would attack Zimmerman too simply for being an annoying asshole, it's not UNREASONABLE to believe that Martin was the one that attacked. If you and everyone else is going to sit here and tell the world you would attack Zimmerman too, what makes anyone think Martin wouldn't have either?

Quoting ashellbell:

No but it seemed to be escalating. I still kick myself in the ass for not doing so.

Quoting AMBG825:

Well what you meant and what you said were different things. Why would you call for an argument? Is arguing illegal in your state?

Quoting ashellbell:

Whaaaaat? Lol they were ARGUING when I passed them, after the gun shots, we called the.cops. I meant I never thought to call seeing an argument. Wow.

Quoting AMBG825:

I probably wouldn't go around telling people that story. That says volumes about you as a person. So not only would you kill someone for simply following you, if someone is lying in the street after being shot, you'd leave them there to die. Not even bother to call an ambulance.

Nice. Very humane too BTW.

Quoting ashellbell:

Do you have evidence that Trayvon swung first? We have two people, one has a detailed history of violence, the other doesn't, why is it you assume the one who doesn't swung first? Not too long ago, I was walking to the store late at night (I live in a hippie community where violence rarely occurs and it was warm out), as I was walking I heard two men arguing, it sounded rather heated but I was almost to the store so I just stepped.up my pace so I could avoid dealing with it. I get in to the store and five minutes later, BOOM BOOM BOOM. One of the guys shot the other. It never once occurred to me to call the cops. Maybe Trayvon felt he was almost home, therefore safe.

Quoting AMBG825:

And how difficult would it have been for Martin to dial 9-1-1 instead of his girlfriend to tell the police someone was following him. I understand that most people don't have a problem with resorting to violence for being asked who are you and why are you here, but that still doesn't mean it was the right thing to do.

Quoting ashellbell:

Only one party was in the wrong...that was the party who didn't follow instructions from the police. How difficult would it have been to say "my name is George Zimmerman, I'm with neighborhood watch, I've called the police, I have a gun, what is your business here?" How difficult would it have been to keep his ass in the car? SYG is not valid when you stalk and chase someone and they defend themselves with their FIST and not a weapon.

Quoting AMBG825:

IMO, both Martin and Zimmerman did the wrong thing. And let me state that just because most of us would have done one thing or the other doesn't mean that it is the right thing to do.

What should have happened is that Zimmerman should have never confronted Martin and Martin should have called police the minute he realized someone was following him. Since Martin was on the phone with his girlfriend at the time, he obviously had a phone. Or he could have instructed her to call police for him.

HOWEVER, in the altercation they were both still wrong. Following Martin and asking him who he was and what he was doing wasn't illegal. If you are in my neighborhood, whether I'm the neighborhood watch or not, I am not doing anything illegal by following you around. Punching someone because they are bothering you IS illegal.

So to recap. Both parties were in the wrong. Zimmerman shouldn't have followed him and Martin should have called police rather than his girlfriend. Zimmerman shouldn't have confronted him and Martin shouldn't have punched him. One wrong does not negate the other. It is unfortunate, with the way the law is written, Zimmerman will probably get off. If he serves time, it will more likely than not, NOT be for murder or manslaughter. The minute Martin punched Zimmerman, the Stand your Ground law went into effect.

Yawn. Keep digging. Do those children's parents know how disturbed you are?

Quoting ashellbell:

LMAO...When I said I never thought to call the cops I was referring to the argument. This is hilarious. I'm the daughter of a murdered mother, my compassion for victims runs deep. I don't abuse children, in fact at volunteer with children who've lost parents in a horrendous fashion as I did. You are cracking me up. Keep 'em coming!!!!

Quoting AMBG825:

Which story should we believe? The original story or the one you changed after having your very inhumane and disgusting actions called out? How convenient that you can change things when it's pointed out they make no sense. First it was the 9-1-1 calls didn't exist. You never heard any of them ...at least until they were posted in the thread. Then it was there was no one else that heard anything until it was linked that there were witnesses who also called police.

Then you make up a story as to why people should resort to violence to solve their problems about how you witnessed an argument that ended with a shooting and never once thought to call police. When told that it was a very disgusting thing for you to do to not call for help for someone who had been a victim of your mentality suddenly the story changed. It goes from "I never once thought to call the police" to "I immediately called the police."

Why in the world would anyone take advice from such a disturbed and disgusting subhuman creature. Next you'll be telling us how you torture children for fun and set animals on fire.

Quoting ashellbell:

Lol @ your last statement. I didn't see anyone get shot, I saw the argument. The cops were immediately called after we heard gunfire. Facepalm.

Quoting AMBG825:

The only way I would cheer if he got off is if it causes a stupid law to be changed.

Of course cheering that a stupid law finally gets seen for it's stupidity and wanting it changed is not nearly as disgusting as watching someone get shot and not thinking to call police. But hey. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Quoting ashellbell:

I have no doubt he'll get off. That's the saddest part of all. Zimmerman is a proven violent liar. Why would I believe Martin attacked first? For someone who claims he was getting the life beat out of him, the evidence doesn't prove that. Martin had one small abrasion on his knuckle. Yeah, sure. The proven liar claims Martin attacked first. How convenient that he's dead. You can cheer all day long when the disgusting murderer gets off, he's still a murderer, just with a little fan club. Yay!

Quoting AMBG825:

And how were you to know that it would go from arguing to shooting? Is that a common occurance in your life? Do your friends normally get into an argument and then start shooting at each other? I just don't see how it's a comparable scenario. People get into arguments all the time without them ending up with someone dead.

You know what you can predict happening without being Miss Cleo? Confronting someone you think is stalking you and having it end with someone being dead. If someone is following you around and you start fighting with them, someone probably is going to wind up seriously injured or dead as happened in this case.

The first rule of keeping yourself safe is to try to get away. Call the police. Go to a well lit public place. Find other people. Basically you should walk away unless you can't possibly do so. That is the rule that Zimmerman broke and it's the same rule Martin broke. Fighting a person when you can walk away is going to increase your chances of an altercation escalating by 100%.

And you know what, the responses you guys are giving reinforces my belief that Zimmerman will get off. The standard of proof is "beyond reasonable doubt." As stated previously, following Martin was not illegal. Confronting Martin was not illegal. Zimmerman's defense is Martin attacked first which IS illegal. There is evidence to support that. And guess what, if there are so many people willing to sit there and say they would attack Zimmerman too simply for being an annoying asshole, it's not UNREASONABLE to believe that Martin was the one that attacked. If you and everyone else is going to sit here and tell the world you would attack Zimmerman too, what makes anyone think Martin wouldn't have either?

Quoting ashellbell:

No but it seemed to be escalating. I still kick myself in the ass for not doing so.

Quoting AMBG825:

Well what you meant and what you said were different things. Why would you call for an argument? Is arguing illegal in your state?

Quoting ashellbell:

Whaaaaat? Lol they were ARGUING when I passed them, after the gun shots, we called the.cops. I meant I never thought to call seeing an argument. Wow.

Quoting AMBG825:

I probably wouldn't go around telling people that story. That says volumes about you as a person. So not only would you kill someone for simply following you, if someone is lying in the street after being shot, you'd leave them there to die. Not even bother to call an ambulance.

Nice. Very humane too BTW.

Quoting ashellbell:

Do you have evidence that Trayvon swung first? We have two people, one has a detailed history of violence, the other doesn't, why is it you assume the one who doesn't swung first? Not too long ago, I was walking to the store late at night (I live in a hippie community where violence rarely occurs and it was warm out), as I was walking I heard two men arguing, it sounded rather heated but I was almost to the store so I just stepped.up my pace so I could avoid dealing with it. I get in to the store and five minutes later, BOOM BOOM BOOM. One of the guys shot the other. It never once occurred to me to call the cops. Maybe Trayvon felt he was almost home, therefore safe.

Quoting AMBG825:

And how difficult would it have been for Martin to dial 9-1-1 instead of his girlfriend to tell the police someone was following him. I understand that most people don't have a problem with resorting to violence for being asked who are you and why are you here, but that still doesn't mean it was the right thing to do.

Quoting ashellbell:

Only one party was in the wrong...that was the party who didn't follow instructions from the police. How difficult would it have been to say "my name is George Zimmerman, I'm with neighborhood watch, I've called the police, I have a gun, what is your business here?" How difficult would it have been to keep his ass in the car? SYG is not valid when you stalk and chase someone and they defend themselves with their FIST and not a weapon.

Quoting AMBG825:

IMO, both Martin and Zimmerman did the wrong thing. And let me state that just because most of us would have done one thing or the other doesn't mean that it is the right thing to do.

What should have happened is that Zimmerman should have never confronted Martin and Martin should have called police the minute he realized someone was following him. Since Martin was on the phone with his girlfriend at the time, he obviously had a phone. Or he could have instructed her to call police for him.

HOWEVER, in the altercation they were both still wrong. Following Martin and asking him who he was and what he was doing wasn't illegal. If you are in my neighborhood, whether I'm the neighborhood watch or not, I am not doing anything illegal by following you around. Punching someone because they are bothering you IS illegal.

So to recap. Both parties were in the wrong. Zimmerman shouldn't have followed him and Martin should have called police rather than his girlfriend. Zimmerman shouldn't have confronted him and Martin shouldn't have punched him. One wrong does not negate the other. It is unfortunate, with the way the law is written, Zimmerman will probably get off. If he serves time, it will more likely than not, NOT be for murder or manslaughter. The minute Martin punched Zimmerman, the Stand your Ground law went into effect.

So what? He pointedly did not go to the hospital with either the paramedics or the police and being the "same night" as his execution of Martin doesn't mean his dramatic wounds were not self-inflicted. Other pictures of him that night do not show the same injuries, Moreover, under the "Stand Your Ground" law, the tennager had every right to fight for his life against a stalker stranger with a gun. It's amazing the lengths some people will go to in defending a racist killer.

So, you believe that because this is a gated community, all of the rules that we teach our children about talking to strangers is null and void? Why, if you don't mind my asking, because as far as I know, money does not determine ones proclivities towards violence or harming others, or is there something of which I am unaware, as I am not the psychologist? Do you honestly believe that living in a gated community excludes one from ever, EVER experiencing anything negative or life threatening? Those are gates, not inpenetrable shields, besides which, if the pedophile, murderer, junkie or thief lives in that community, it would be like locking the fox IN with the chickens, right?

Quoting Radarma:

Do people not read?

I already explained this!

IT WAS A GATED COMMUNITY WITH KNOWN CRIME HAPPENING...THE RESIDENTS WERE MADE AWARE OF ZIMMERMAN'S WATCH DUTY.

DAMN STRAIGHT TRAYVON SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THESE FACTS.

Quoting gludwig2000:

Rofl, what ever happened to teaching our children to NOT speak to strangers? Seriously, I grew up in Miami, in the 80's. People, mostly men, constantly walked behind us, trying to talk to us, and we were always told not to answer, to keep walking to someplace safe, and to be aware of our environment. I taught my kids the same thing, so as far as I am concerned, Trayvon did exactly what I would expect my kids to do, or what I would have done myself. Even if he did ask Zimmerman "what the fuck do you want" it wouldn't matter, imo, and definitely did not give Zimmerman the right to assault him. And that is another thing that I was taught, and that I taught my kids, you fight back if someone puts their hands on you. I know, this no doubt makes me ghetto, but oh well.

Quoting Radarma:

Quoting katy_kay08:

It's strange to me that so many believe George had a right to defend himself as the assailant but Trayvon was just suppose to do nothing as he was stalked by Zimmerman. IMO, the only one that had the right to stand his ground was the one minding his own business and trying to get back home.

And wouldn't Trayvon be alive today had he simply told G who he was, and that he was, in fact living there?

Of course not, but in a gated community there is a high probability that residents use a NW program and expect what comes with it.

Like I said, T made choices that night too.

Quoting gludwig2000:

So, you believe that because this is a gated community, all of the rules that we teach our children about talking to strangers is null and void? Why, if you don't mind my asking, because as far as I know, money does not determine ones proclivities towards violence or harming others, or is there something of which I am unaware, as I am not the psychologist? Do you honestly believe that living in a gated community excludes one from ever, EVER experiencing anything negative or life threatening? Those are gates, not inpenetrable shields, besides which, if the pedophile, murderer, junkie or thief lives in that community, it would be like locking the fox IN with the chickens, right?

Quoting Radarma:

Do people not read?

I already explained this!

IT WAS A GATED COMMUNITY WITH KNOWN CRIME HAPPENING...THE RESIDENTS WERE MADE AWARE OF ZIMMERMAN'S WATCH DUTY.

DAMN STRAIGHT TRAYVON SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THESE FACTS.

Quoting gludwig2000:

Rofl, what ever happened to teaching our children to NOT speak to strangers? Seriously, I grew up in Miami, in the 80's. People, mostly men, constantly walked behind us, trying to talk to us, and we were always told not to answer, to keep walking to someplace safe, and to be aware of our environment. I taught my kids the same thing, so as far as I am concerned, Trayvon did exactly what I would expect my kids to do, or what I would have done myself. Even if he did ask Zimmerman "what the fuck do you want" it wouldn't matter, imo, and definitely did not give Zimmerman the right to assault him. And that is another thing that I was taught, and that I taught my kids, you fight back if someone puts their hands on you. I know, this no doubt makes me ghetto, but oh well.

Quoting Radarma:

Quoting katy_kay08:

It's strange to me that so many believe George had a right to defend himself as the assailant but Trayvon was just suppose to do nothing as he was stalked by Zimmerman. IMO, the only one that had the right to stand his ground was the one minding his own business and trying to get back home.

And wouldn't Trayvon be alive today had he simply told G who he was, and that he was, in fact living there?

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