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NRA Basic Pistol Course - Qualifies (SE Wisconsin)

I have taken classes through this family. They are NRA Certified Instructors. Debbie schedules all of the classes and her husband Peter and son Michael are the primary and secondary instructors. If I recall correctly Peter has retired from two police departments ( New Orleans & Chicago ) and I believe that Michael is LE in Chicago. Nice People!!!

From what I understood... They offer 3 levels of training... all with about 2 or 3 students per instuctor... They are based in IL.

Basic to qualify for permit @ $130.00

She was REAL persistant on pushing the other two levels (covers legal ramifications, advanced trainning, etc., etc.,)

I did provide my e-mail address for more info but also had to make it clear (interupt her sales pictch) that I was only interested in trainning to obtain the permit and I coudl do that with a DNR Hunter Saftey Course...

I think she also said something about weekend only classes but I could be wrong on that.

Edited to add;

For now I am going to wait and see what Calicojack can work out as far as comming to S.E. WI to offer his classes... or worst case senario, if he cannot make it, I will take a DNR hunter safety course.

For now I am going to wait and see what Calicojack can work out as far as comming to S.E. WI to offer his classes... or worst case senario, if he cannot make it, I will take a DNR hunter safety course.

Outdoorsman1

But but but... the permit is only supposed to cost $50. What's the big deal with a permit system?

If we can't get CJack down here, and I see no reason why not, I say we get a crew and head up there. There are several instructors here in Wisco too. None of which have any history with the Chicago or New Orleans Police. Don't get me wrong. I'm sure this family is wonderful. Everyone deserves to make a living... but I fled IL for a reason.

"Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties."
Abraham Lincoln

"Some time ago, a bunch of lefties defied the law by dancing at the Jefferson Memorial, resulting in their arrests. Last week, a bunch of them pulled the same stunt and - using patented Lefist techniques - provoked the Park Police into having to use force to arrest them."
Alexcabbie

From what I understood... They offer 3 levels of training... all with about 2 or 3 students per instuctor... They are based in IL.

Basic to qualify for permit @ $130.00

She was REAL persistant on pushing the other two levels (covers legal ramifications, advanced trainning, etc., etc.,)

I did provide my e-mail address for more info but also had to make it clear (interupt her sales pictch) that I was only interested in trainning to obtain the permit and I coudl do that with a DNR Hunter Saftey Course...

I think she also said something about weekend only classes but I could be wrong on that.

Edited to add;

For now I am going to wait and see what Calicojack can work out as far as comming to S.E. WI to offer his classes... or worst case senario, if he cannot make it, I will take a DNR hunter safety course.

Outdoorsman1

You can do the WI hunters safety course via CDrom and internet, just one field day at the end for 2 tests. I wouldn't normally recommend that to a new guy but I think for any of the old hands that just need a permit it's the easiest way to do it.

We do have several other instructors here on the forum too. Hopefully they will chime in soon.

"Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties."
Abraham Lincoln

"Some time ago, a bunch of lefties defied the law by dancing at the Jefferson Memorial, resulting in their arrests. Last week, a bunch of them pulled the same stunt and - using patented Lefist techniques - provoked the Park Police into having to use force to arrest them."
Alexcabbie

McX
i'll hold off until i hear from WisconsinCarry. these are the first moments, of the first days, we have time yet.

Me Too.....

If we can't get CJack down here, and I see no reason why not, I say we get a crew and head up there. There are several instructors here in Wisco too. None of which have any history with the Chicago or New Orleans Police. Don't get me wrong. I'm sure this family is wonderful. Everyone deserves to make a living... but I fled IL for a reason.

I agree but alass...recent change in family responsibilites prevent me from any long travel for more than one day...

You can do the WI hunters safety course via CDrom and internet, just one field day at the end for 2 tests. I wouldn't normally recommend that to a new guy but I think for any of the old hands that just need a permit it's the easiest way to do it.

Agreed.... And the Hunter Saftey Course would be ONLY to obtain the permit and in NO WAY be considered a substitue for REAL handgun trainning....

Outddorsman1

Last edited by Outdoorsman1; 06-10-2011 at 01:39 PM.

"On the Plains of Hesitation bleach the bones of countless millions who, at the Dawn of Victory, sat down to wait - and waiting, died."

Hayyyyy Handy.

Originally Posted by HandyHamlet

But but but... the permit is only supposed to cost $50. What's the big deal with a permit system?

If we can't get CJack down here, and I see no reason why not, I say we get a crew and head up there. There are several instructors here in Wisco too. None of which have any history with the Chicago or New Orleans Police. Don't get me wrong. I'm sure this family is wonderful. Everyone deserves to make a living... but I fled IL for a reason.

The purpose of fighting is to win,
there is no victory in defense.
The sword is more important than the shield,
and skill is more important than either.
The final weapon is the brain,
all else is supplemental.

The way things sound practically any type of "trainnig" will qualify. Particapant in a competion shoot, Out dated Hunter Saftey Certificate, etc. etc..

July 4th is coming up..maybe I go go to my local July 4th festivities and win a stuffed animal at one of the shooting games. Just send the stuffed animal along with the application and I would be good to go..

Ok..sarcasum at the mentality of the permit requirerment off....

Outdoorsman1

"On the Plains of Hesitation bleach the bones of countless millions who, at the Dawn of Victory, sat down to wait - and waiting, died."

The way things sound practically any type of "trainnig" will qualify. Particapant in a competion shoot, Out dated Hunter Saftey Certificate, etc. etc..

July 4th is coming up..maybe I go go to my local July 4th festivities and win a stuffed animal at one of the shooting games. Just send the stuffed animal along with the application and I would be good to go..

Too old and fat. They won't take me. I have thousands of hours on Call of Duty (XBox Live) though. That should count for something. Wonder if I can get a certificate from Bill Gates and Microsoft...

Last edited by HandyHamlet; 06-10-2011 at 04:40 PM.

"Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties."
Abraham Lincoln

"Some time ago, a bunch of lefties defied the law by dancing at the Jefferson Memorial, resulting in their arrests. Last week, a bunch of them pulled the same stunt and - using patented Lefist techniques - provoked the Park Police into having to use force to arrest them."
Alexcabbie

6- 10 - 11
************************************************** ************************************************** ****************
HELLO LODDIE,
THANK YOU FOR YOUR REQUEST FOR OUR FORMAL PISTOL TRAINING CLASS.
THIS IS FOR OUR FIREARM TRAINING BUSINESS THE INSTITUTE. WE HAVE BEEN IN
BUSINESS FOR 9 YRS, TRAINING CIVILIANS & LAW ENFORCEMENT. BELOW IS THE
COURSE INFORMATION.

BELOW IS THE BASIC PISTOL COURSE OUTINED FOR YOUR REVIEW.
THIS EXPLAINS THE PROCESS FOR YOUR OWN PROGRESSION TOWARDS THE
NON-RESIDENT OF FLORIDA CONCEAL CARRY CLASS OR ADVANCED HANDGUN
TRAINING.
THIS IS A 3 - 4 COURSE LEVEL PROGRAM. ( DEPENDING ON YOUR SKILL LEVEL )

1. BASIC PISTOL CLASS // LEARN 3 CALIBERS OF HANDGUN

A. ( YOU MAY NEED A TWO HOUR SESSION AFTER THE BASIC CLASS, TO TEACH YOU STRONG
& WEAK HAND SHOOTING. THIS PREPARES YOU FOR THE DRAWING FROM A HOSLTER CLASS. )

2. TWO HOUR ADVANCED HANDGUN COURSE // LEARN HOW TO DRAW FROM A HOLSTER, SAFELY.

3. NON-RESIDENT OF FLORIDA CONCEAL CARRY CLASS
THE TOTAL HOURS FOR THESE COURSES IS :12 HOURS. IT EXCEEDS THE RECIPROCITY STATE OF OHIO WHICH IS 10 HOURS
REQUIREMENT. FOR THE ADVANCED HANDGUN COURSE, YOU NEED A HANDGUN, HOLSTER,
2 - 3 MAGS, MAG POUCH & AMMO.
I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU,
DEBBIE O'MALLEY
THE INSTITUTE
773 497 8543
************************************************** ************************************************** **************************** - 11

Hello Loddie,

This is the information on the 3 caliber pistol course.

This is a Basic Pistol Training Course, with Classroom & 1 hour of Range instruction.
If you are interested in a Conceal Carry Permit, we offer the Florida, non-resident
course. This gives you reciprocity in 38 states. Wisconsin would also be included
once the legislature approves the bill.
The First class, Certified basic pistol starts @ 1PM Saturday or Sunday.
Second Class for the Chicago Permit is a Seminar on Personal Protection
In The Home, which discusses, the legal, ethical & moral possession of a handgun.

The CCW for the Non-Resident / Florida course, begins @ 2PM, & concludes by 730 - 800 PM.
We are NRA Recruiters & Promoters, & we can sign anyone up for the NRA, interested in joining that day. The full membership is $35 for one year, we can offer them, the same membership for $25 for one year. Same benefits apply.
Our information on the Basic Pistol Training Course is listed below.

This is a 300 acre range, with PISTOL RIFLE, SHOTGUN, AIRGUN, ARCHERY & BLACK POWDER RANGES. 5 Miles over the WI. border, in Kenosha County.

I hope this gives you the information you need.
I look forward to hearing from you,
Thank you,
Debbie O'Malley
Event Coordinator
The Institute
773 497 8543
************************************************** ************************************************** ***
Good day Loddie,

Thank you for your inquiry for your basic pistol training course. The Institute began nine years ago as a training and instructional business for law enforcement & civilians. We are a family friendly instructional business, serving all types of training requests. Peter O'Malley is our Chief Instructor with a 40 YR. back round in firearm training. Peter O'Malley, has military & law enforcement experience & training. He is also an attorney, which makes him most knowledgeable on gun laws & gun rights, for IL, & WI. Espiecally, when he is conducting the CCW Course for the NON-RESIDENT OF FLORIDA. Peter O'Malley & Michael O'Malley are currently in the Coast Guard, so their training and instruction exceeds all requirements. Michael O'Malley is our Master Pistol, Instructor, with eight years firearm training, and Coast Guard training.

THE SINGLE PISTOL CLASS TEACHES YOU THE BASICS OF HANDGUN SHOOTING WITH ONE CALIBER:
THE .22 SEMI-AUTO. THIS IS FOR BEGINNERS WHO ARE LOOKING HOW TO LOAD, UNLOAD, TRANSPORT,
& STORE A HANDGUN SAFELY.

THE 3 CALIBER HANDGUN TRAINING & INSTRUCTION COURSE IS LISTED BELOW:
This certified pistol course is the best for all responsible gun owners, because it allows you to try 3 different calibers of handguns, and teaches you confidence and how to handle them safely. ( .22 semi-auto, .38 revolver, & 9MM semi-auto. )

Students are allowed to bring their own handguns & factory ammo to the class.
Reloads are not allowed.
The Institute's fee for a Formal four hour 3 Caliber Pistol Training Course:
is:This is the price for 1 person attending.If you have another person
interested there is a discount below.

$ 100 per person Course Fee.

$ 30 Non-Member fee per person Bristol, WI. paid the day of the lesson.

Total = $ 165 for one Non-Member payable to The Institute
( cash or check) SEE SPECIAL OFFER BELOW:
For June 12TH, 18th or 26th.

Includes course, pistol book, instruction in classroom & range,
eye & ear protection, all targets, certificate of completion & range fee.
Made payable to The Institute. Cash or check. ( No credit cards )
*****SAFETY IS OUR NUMBER ONE RULE******
SPECIAL OFFER FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE
$ 25 off as a New Client.

$ 140 1 person, all inclusive course fee.
$ 135 for 2 people, all inclusive course fee.
You may bring your own handguns to the class.

Your lesson can be scheduled for the dates given
above.COURSE TIMES BEGIN FROM 1PM - 5PM.

The next class is a gun cleaning class,with instruction on the range, & a advanced handgun course, learning how to draw from a holster, safely, shoot & move, & advance on your target. We help you progress at your own pace, to advance to the level you desire. We also prepare you for the non-resident of Florida, conceal carry class as well.

Bristol, WI. is LESS THAN 1 HOUR FROM CHICAGO & MOST SUBURBS.

DIRECTIONS: TAKE THE 294 NORTH HWY TO WI. EXIT HWY 50, TURN LEFT GOING WEST, 5 MILES TO ROUTE 45, TURN LEFT GOING SOUTH, 1 MILE TO 85TH STREET, TURN RIGHT, BRISTOL IS 1/2 MILE ON YOUR LEFT. GO TO THE SECOND ENTRANCE AT THE TOP OF THE HILL, ACROSS THE ARCHERY RANGE AND TURN LEFT IN THE PARKING LOT. WE WILL MEET THERE AT THE MAIN CLUBHOUSE FOR THE CLASSROOM SESSION OF THE COURSE.

*** SPECIAL NOTE: WE ARE NRA RECRUITERS, SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN THE NRA , IT IS $25 FOR THE FIRST YEAR. THAT IS A $10 SAVINGS, PLUS ALL THE MEMBERSHIP EXTRAS. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO RENEW YOUR MEMBERSHIP WE CAN PROVIDE THAT SERVICE FOR YOU AS WELL. ***

We shoot at the Bristol Shooting Ranges
21001 W. 85TH ST. Bristol, WI. 53104 /
Pistol range is enclosed and under cover.
Rain or Shine. Less than 1 Hour from Chicago.
3 Miles over the Wisconsin border.

WOW....

Outdoorsman1

"On the Plains of Hesitation bleach the bones of countless millions who, at the Dawn of Victory, sat down to wait - and waiting, died."

we offer the Florida, non-resident course. This gives you reciprocity in 38 states. Wisconsin would also be included once the legislature approves the bill.

She needs to learn facts before she gives out more misinformation.
A FL license will only be good for non-WI residents to cc in WI,
or as proof of training for WI residents to get a WI permit.
(Or of course, for a WI resident to cc in FL or many other states.)

So they teach NRA classes,
charge more for one person ($140) than for two ($135),
normally charge $165 for a class...
And we have to go into & spend $ in IL to do it.

I prefer not to spend $ in IL if I can avoid it.

BTW, if all you want is to meet the WI training mandate, check out Pauls' thread for a little gem I found.
Once the bill is law & it's harder for them to screw with us, pass it around.
Do as little as possible for the mandated training, then go get real training to help yourself.