We see no evidence of underlying slowing in the industrial economy so we look for a rebound in February and the re-emergence of the upward trend over the next couple of months," said Ian Shepherdson, chief economist at High Frequency Economics.

Maby since the economy IS getting better, most have good quality working machines right now and just don't need a new Fridge.

Maby since the economy IS getting better, most have good quality working machines right now and just don't need a new Fridge.

I think we all need to stay with fabricating airplanes, not stories.

From your quote:

Quote:

"we look for a rebound in February ..."

Talk about "fabrication", you quote something that "looks" for a rebound and call that a fact, but ignore the reality of what actually has happened.

We have been inundated with economic cheerleaders for some time now, but as is always the case, those cheerleaders keep chearleading even after their "look forward" predictions are proven wrong.
This economy has been propped up more by cheerleaders than it has been by real economic growth.
But you go ahead and live in your fantasy world of what people "look forward" to while the real economy continues to become even more mired in Obama's anti-business and anti-growth policies.

Maby since the economy IS getting better, most have good quality working machines right now and just don't need a new Fridge.

I think we all need to stay with fabricating airplanes, not stories.

We were once told that if we passed a huge stimulus package, we'd be looking to unemployment going no higher than 8%.

But that's all water (actually tax dollars) under the bridge now.

Sure ... manufacturing is making a rebound ... gotta ask why ... could it be that perhaps with the dismal economy, many buisnesses decided to sit on what they had and didn't take the risk of replacing stock untill the absoloutly had to?

When the economy is running full steam, warehouses are kept full because down stream buisnesses could expect on continued orders ... but when economies slow down, down stream buisnesses are less likely to keep huge inventories, which impact up stream manufacturers.

So the question is ... is the upswing in manufacturing simply a result of buisnesses finally restocking because they've run their inventory dry? Or is it because front end buisnesses are actually seeing more orders?

So the question is ... is the upswing in manufacturing simply a result of buisnesses finally restocking because they've run their inventory dry? Or is it because front end buisnesses are actually seeing more orders?

Both. Consider the automobile industry. Everyone hung onto their older cars during the recession. Auto manufacturers cut back production of new cars to a rate which could not replace existing cars as they wore out.

Headline the other day that GM is struggling to keep pace with a flood of new orders. And me, still puttering around in an old Mazda pickup and Toyota Camry sedan which we bought new 21 and 20 years ago.

Both. Consider the automobile industry. Everyone hung onto their older cars during the recession. Auto manufacturers cut back production of new cars to a rate which could not replace existing cars as they wore out.

Headline the other day that GM is struggling to keep pace with a flood of new orders. And me, still puttering around in an old Mazda pickup and Toyota Camry sedan which we bought new 21 and 20 years ago.

Even I'm due...

Put your money where your mouth is..... if you're so positive and confident about the economy, go ahead and replace your cars. After 20+ years, I'd say you definately got your money's worth out of them.

A good indicator can also be something like the guy driving the break truck saying "things haven't been this busy in two years", or when you start seeing more and more trucks hauling cement, re bar and roof trusses. Or semi's one after the other headed down the interstate highways, restaurants and malls that were mostly empty several years ago now packed on friday evenings and weekends. I guess I'm just an optimist.