Because the new thread was getting too long and I always had planned to lock it once the games were released, here's our new thread. This one is for posting news and in-game discoveries now that the games actually have been released.

A recap of what we know so far:-There are still eight Gyms. They specialize in Water/Grass/Fire, Normal, Bug, Electric, Ground, Flying, Ice and Dragon. Iris from the BW anime is the eighth Gym Leader in Black. In White, the eighth Gym Leader is an older guy named Shana. Yes, there are version exclusive Gym Leaders now.

-HMs return. They are Cut, Fly, Surf, Strength, Waterfall and Dive. TMs also return. Changes from DP's set have been confirmed.

-The rumored Starter evolutions have been confirmed as real. Their typings are Grass, Fire/Fighting and Water.

-There are 156 new Pokemon, bringing the total up to 649. NONE are related to old ones.

-The pseudo legendary line is Dark/Dragon. Kibago's final stage is Ononokusu, but they are apparently not a pseudo legendary line.

-Pokemon with alternate forms include Kenhorou, Basurao, Darumakka, Hihidaruma, Purumiru, its evolution, and apparently one of the event Legendaries.

-Holy cow, the new typesets are perfect. A few of them Ive been waitin for. The electric ground sounds promising. They all will add some more complicity to the game.-Dive is back, YES. Also, Is the list of hms given all thats there's gonna be, or is that just whats has been confirmed?-WOW. a non-psuedo dragon. Has game freak been reading the forums? (kibago-> ononokusu, I WANT IT)-Version exclusive gymleadeaders? Ill save my verdict for later.

This post just makes b/w sound better and better. Any word on a more offical launch date of B/W for the rest of us?

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O_o The full list *bows* I am not worth-WAIT! They don't all have pics?! Why am I bowing to this crap?!Back to being serious...From the pics already revealed, there are some disappointments(too many to name, one of the biggest: The monkey trio evos), i'll just have to warm up to them, but, for the ones that aren't disappointments-SWEET! Also, Iris is the 8th gym leader(only in Black though...)?! I AM LOVING THIS GEN! Is there any more to be said(on the "IM LOVING THIS GEN!" part)?

I officially love all of these. And another site has all the pictures of the sprites, not named and stuff though, but the puppies final evo made me ROFL. This is gonna be an awesome gen. I love the fire/ghost candle. he's cool. And elemental monkeys, EVOLVING!? Oh yes. Ice cream cones? I love it. The Gears evo's are cool to me, kind of basic like magnemite, but the last one is cool how it's like a bunch of gears all together. Also, pre-evo polar bear, too cute. He even has little snot running out his nose, DAWWW. These dark dragons are very cool. It goes, one head, two heads, and then big monster with one head, and the other two are like hands. TOO COOL. That's all I have. And if you would like to check them out they're on a certain site on a beach with pokemon. >_> But can't wait til we've got the psydex up and ready with em.

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So if any of you have started going through the list we have on our site, or looking at other sites you may have already seen all those pictures from the pokedex. It won't be too long before the actual sprites and sugimori and all that are released and we can start REALLY updating the Psydex, so here we go. LMAO. I love this.The fact that the monkeys evolve is too cool. SUPER AWESOME GRASS MONKEY APPROVES OF THIS STATEMENT.... Dark/Fighting, PRETTY AWESOME. I love the typing, and he looks funny. He must be on some crazy stuff.A poison type, he's supposed to be a garbage bag. I think he's pretty cool in his own way. Nice way of representing New York, Japan. Lol. Too bad all are trashbags aren't like this.WONDER ICE CREAM TWINS POWER ACTIVATE. I love these guys, pretty awesome Ice type.DAWWWWWW. He's too cute. and another awesome Ice type. His evo = BEASTAnd another DAWWWWWW. Wargles pre-evo. The final evo of the pseudo-legend dark/dragon. AWESOME if you ask me.

So what do you guys think?

EDIT: ... I guess the thread this WAS wasn't really necessary.. D: at least my opinion is still being made

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Wow. I must say I'm not as disappointed as I thought I would be with these Pokemon. Most of them are pretty fresh and original (like the leopard guy who doesn't look at all like Persian). Some of them are pretty UGLY (here's looking at you Terrierable). I like the starters. All of them, except the final form of the fire starter. But I'm sure I'll warm up to him (no pun intended).

I like these combinations. They're interesting. I'd still like to see Psychic/Dark but whatever. I kind of like the idea of version-exclusive Gym Leaders. I can't wait to play this one!

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SHEER AWESOMENESS!!!! how long do you peredict until we get a full psydex?

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And if you would like to check them out they're on a certain site on a beach with pokemon. >_>

-_-...Pokebeach(time for a somewhat long and random sentence)*Gasp* You mentioned it! Or i did? Or we both did? Or I said it and u implied it? SO MANY POSSIBILITIES! :]Well anyway, I love most of the pokemon, but some are...er, not so good, like the little tadpole and its evo, they're just...ugly. I think one of my favorites(that i've seen) is Denchura's pre-evo, it's SO CUTE

I love the dark/dragon looks like we get 2 uber lines like in hoenn. With kibago's line and the new one.

Hate to burst your bubble, but kibago isn't psuedo legendary. ( i think thats what you mean, i may be wrong)

And yes the dark/dragon IS A FREAKIN MONSTER. I WANT IT. I WANT A WHOLE TEAM OF IT. oh yeah the other are pretty cool too. but not like THE DARK DRAGON IT"S FREAKIN AWERSOME I SOO WANT ONE, ILL TAKE A TEAM OF EM (goes on ranting)

This gen is full of uniquiness and BAD !@# pokemon. Yeah there's some cute ones, but they then turn into BIG, BAD AND MEAN. IM LOVIN THIS GEN!!!!

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This gen is full of uniquiness and BAD !@# pokemon. Yeah there's some cute ones, but they then turn into BIG, BAD AND MEAN. IM LOVIN THIS GEN!!!!

Eww, big and bad. I'd rather the cute ones, STAY CUTE! A cute little pokemon to destroy the pokemon league with[: But, that's just my opinion[/center][/quote]

You can still do that! You just have to grind them intensely.

We need more word about the stats of these Pokemans. I wanna know which ones are tanks and other whatnots. I wonder how diverse these base stats are going to be? We've got almost every kind of Pokemon possible stat-wise (and object wise... epic ice cream cones).

Then the new moves & abilities are going to be revealed too. I'm going to ride thi flood of information into the desolate city streets of my curiosity, the only storm-drain being criticism.

Also...= Xatu?

Some of these look-alikes and... concept... alikes... are a little bit unsettling, but I'm willing to get over it. I'LL ENJOY THIS GENERATION IF IT KILLS ME!

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You threw a "Dusk Ball!"Aw, it appeared to be caught.Screw it! Master Ball.

Seems like a lot of Pokemon evolve at later levels too.. quite a few pokemon evolving at Lv 48+ and upwards

There are some new abilities too which are a bit interesting. Fossil bird's stats halve when his HP hits <50%.Hihidaruma transforms into a Fire/Psychic with stats geared towards Special if his HP hits <50%.

Anyway... sounds good to me. I don't know if this is all confirmed or not but it's definitely interesting. I'm eager to see if there'll be any changes to the pre-existing 493 Pokemon (eg there are rumours that Rotom formes have changed their typing... but yeah don't know for sure)

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That's exactly what I first imagined when I saw Icecreammon! Way to bring my dreams to life! Anyways...Dive is back!!! [/random choreographed musical that came out of nowhere]I love all of the new Pokemon! (except for Watermonkeymon's evo) The genie trio is okay, but they could've tried to make them a little more distinguishable. Just a change in color, hair, and tail isn't going to cut it. But...Lamprey with no weaknesses! And an Electric/Ground flounder and a pure Flying Pokemon and the first final stage pure Dragon Pokemon and a garbage bag and an awesome dog final evo and a chandelier and and and!And I love all the cute Pokemon! I shall get six Everstones and control the world with baby eagles, tarantulas, shih tzus, and polar bears.And Shinporo is beast!

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I am looking at all the sprites as I speak:Favorites so far:Choroneko's Leopard evoFire monkey's evoShimama's EvoMeguroko's 2 evos, the third is an awesome beast that I want to catch 100 ofSwanna's PreveoAll three of the ice creams. Its shiny form better be Mint flavored, thats my favoriteAll 3 in the ghost candle line-spooky haunted house funThe polar bearsBaby Wargle- cute.The dark dragonThe Ice dragonThe girly event legendary

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There's not a single Pokemon I don't like.The only ones I don't LOVE are those Fighting-types with the wood/steel/concrete slabs. The veins just weird me out.

The Psychic aliens, the Psychic/Flying bird/ancient thing and the sarcophagus are instant favorites, but it's going to be SO HARD choosing which ones of all these to use!SERIOUSLY! They look fantastic.Water/Ghost Jellyfish? Fire/Ghost Candelabra? A garbage bag? A giant robot Ghost?YES PLEASE!!!

Also, did you notice the Flying trio has the same stats?!?!?!?!SWEET!!!

Kibago line =/= pseudo legend is somewhat sad for the little guy, but he still looks great.

Sazando looks awesome.

Many designs are attempting to reminisce the Kanto feel ( > and > , which, by theory sounds great, but it does not quite work well for many. Some designs on the other hand, attempt to 1-up sinnoh styles, which also do either good or bad. THere are a lot of good pokemon (stat-wise and asthetics-wise), but there are also a number that looks bad...like real bad.

Is it just me or the graphics look too cartoon-ey? Many sprites seem to lack the "3D-ish" feel of the 4th gen.

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