Defeat? Just like the Vikings have ended every single one of their seasons, in defeat.
Well, in defense of their move out to LA, they will save some money because nobody has to worry about moving their trophy case.

jimmy smith
do you have a life or do you get paid to post after vikings post
these threads show what losers some (not all packer fans are)
stitting in your basement waiting for a vikings post so you can rip on them classy

I hope they work it out. I love to hate them and do not want to be deprived of the privelege. If they’re in LA (or somewhere else,) they won’t be the same Vikings. I can’t believe the State of Minnesota won’t save the day somehow.

# ethan robert says: May 5, 2010 12:45 PM
The news set off a giant celebration in Wisconsin.
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I doubt it.
True Packer fans hate the Vikings, but the love the rivalry.
Dolts and dumb asses like you (apparently) and JimmySmith don’t get it..

I will still be a Viking fan. But I will boycott every other sport in Minnesota. Good Job Minnesota. And also, It really wasn’t nessasary to build a retractable roof for the stadiam. The cost of the project is what helped it get defeated. Alot of the project and buildings was un-nessasary. Build the building first then build the other stuff later. Not all at once. We do have an economic crisses after all.

I will still be a Viking fan. But you can beleive I will boycott every sport that comes from Minnesota. Good Job Minnesota! There is no reason to suport anyother teams. They will just be forced to move anyway. You didn’t need the revenue anyway right?

INTRODUCING – YOUR 2010 SAN ANTONIO VIKINGS!!
Brett Favre and Adrian Peterson should be a big hit in River-city. Probably the Spurs and the SA Vikes can bring home championships in the same year to the good folks of South Texas

Jimmy is Sick of seeing his beloved Packers get beat by the Vikings year in and year out…. Thats why he wants them to move so bad!
Dont worry Jimmy Mom and Dad will still hold you at night when the Packers lose games.

Minni would probably just get an expansion team in a few years after somebody with mega-dough builds a stadium there. Nonetheless, you have to wonder what’s going on with minnesota politics. It has been shown time and time again that new stadiums don’t boost local economies and really just divert funds from more important things. That said, loosing the team could probably hurt the economy there, unless the many many gay bars in downtown Minneapolis can’t fill the void (no pun intended).

You guys (Florio included) really don’t understand how legislative sessions work in the late periods, do you? A defeat does not mean done – this isn’t the NFL playoffs here. Expect to see another version of the bill pop up before the end of the week and the process to start all over again. This is politics.

# bob nelson is a idiot says: May 5, 2010 12:48 PM
jimmy smith
do you have a life or do you get paid to post after vikings post
these threads show what losers some (not all packer fans are)
stitting in your basement waiting for a vikings post so you can rip on them classy
The Vikings lack of Superbowl trophy’s shows what losers they are. 0-4 in superbowls see you in L.A.

Vikes fans have been such classless crybabies ever since the NFC Championship game that they almost deserve this. Almost.
Still, it sucks to see a franchise move, and I feel bad for their fans, even the d-bags that are still posting on Saints stories about how they were robbed.

This was to be expected the first time out. There is too much money involved, too many rivalries (and political ambitions), and too many pieces of the puzzle to fit together to get a deal done in such a short time. It will take more haggling; I remember how long it took to replace Metropolitan Stadium. And don’t underestimate the role of regional rivalries. For years, many St. Paul residents resented the fact that the Vikings, Twins, and North Stars were all located in the Minneapolis suburbs.

what’s gonna happen to them 5 years after they and the other team the jaguars you want to move to L.A. when nobody shows up for thier after the novelty of having a pro team wears off?the fans have proven they do not care about pro football there by having the rams and raiders leave. don’t give me any of it’s the teams fault not ours b.s. either.I am sure viking fans love thier team they just don’t want to be blackmailed into making a billionaire owner even richer. nobody outside of the league office and tv networks care about having a team there,I have never heard a fan wishing there was another team there they could hate.

JimmySmith says:
May 5, 2010 12:40 PM
Defeat? Just like the Vikings have ended every single one of their seasons, in defeat.
Well, in defense of their move out to LA, they will save some money because nobody has to worry about moving their trophy case.
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And of course they can save on uniform material by buying in bulk with the Lakers, who use that same fairy purple & urine yellow.
Plus, among all the addicts, cross-dressing queens, criminals, and narcissists that populate L.A., they’ll fit right in.
Happy “sailing”, Hypequeens.

My sources are telling me that Pawlenty addressed the session prior to the vote and as part of his comments he dropped his pants to show off the mullett on his nuts.
Apparently it backfired as most women (not all) were turned-off.
Are mulletts popular in Los Angeles?

I am a huge Packers fan and I would hate to see the Vikings leave Minnesota. As much as I hate the Vikings, I love the rivalry that goes on between Green Bay and Minnesota. I think any Packer fan who is happy to see the Vikings leave is not thinking cleary. It would be one less exciting rivalry we get to look forward to each year.

do you have a life or do you get paid to post after vikings post
these threads show what losers some (not all packer fans are)
stitting in your basement waiting for a vikings post so you can rip on them classy
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Seriously, have you ever seen the Vikings fans that come out of the woodwork to cry every time a Saints or “new overtime rules” comes out?

The MN legislature is full of idiots on BOTH sides of the aisle. Don’t want to give money to billionares to build stadiums… Forget about the millions in revenue that the team brings to the state every year, forget about the hundreds of jobs that would be created by a stadium construction and surrounding infrastructure. Nope, its better to play politics and dick around until they wake up one morning to find that the team has loaded up the trucks and moved to LA in the middle of the night (like when they pissed around and lost the North Stars, or the Lakers). They had an option right in front of them with the “racino” that would have given them $40 million a year towards paying for the stadium, but they don’t even want to touch that. Thanks to the Native American special interest groups that raise a hissy fit if they aren’t the exclusive provider of casinos. Don’t play the “holier than thou” card saying that casinos promote gambling and whatnot. Say it for what it is, you’ve been paid off by a special interest group that doesn’t want to see any competition against it.

Ambrose:
You can’t believe the State of Minnesota won’t save the day? The surprise here is that the elected officials, put in office to serve the best interests of the people, have actually (for a change) done that.
Most people can’t afford to go to a game already, why on earth should they have to pay to build a billion+ dollar stadium, which they still will have no right or ability to attend even after having footed the bill. Publicly funded stadiums are an outrage, if govt corruption and idiocy weren’t so blatant, rampant, and entrenched I would be stunned that these bills even are given an audience.

As a Vikings fan living in L.A….I can assure you they ain’t living here.
Roski’s stadium proposal (and the competing one in downtown L.A.) are at least 3-4 years from even being a possibility.
And I doubt the Vikes wanna play in the Coliseum.

So the Twins have a new home and so do the Gopher’s. But the biggest money maker in town can’t get a new home? WTF I still say LA should not be allowed to have a team. They had two at one time and couldn’t fill the stadiums then. Its a USC town ( when they are winning ) and a Laker town. Get it done Minnesota if the Vikings leave town what are you going to do from October until April? Ice Fishing will only get you so far.

I would hope they change the name if they do move. Granted Vikings makes more sense in LA than “Lakers”. How many Lakes are there near LA again?
With such a high Scandinavian population it would be appropriate to let the city keep the name.
It’s ridiculous that they can’t agree on a stadium proposal, losing the Vikes would be more of a long term loss of revenue than buliding a stadium would.

If the Vikings really want to play in Minnesota, then they can pay for the privilege. The costs can be paid by the Vikings fan base thru PSL’s or whatever.
I’m sure Vikings fans don’t want their team to leave, but the rest of the general public shouldn’t be forced to take on more debt for a professional sports team. We can’t afford this kind of rent seeking/corporate welfare any more.

I have been a Vikings fan since 1969 & those politicians who screwed this up and voted it down deserve to be replaced in the next election and their names should be made public. They will lose revenue, jobs and credibility.
I hope Wiff moves the team to LA, and renigs on his commitment not to move them, Minnesotans are in many ways screwed up they elected a radical wrestler for Governor and fish eyed dumb comedian for senate & lost the North Stars & Lakers
Sorry but after dealing with these morons the past41 years I am now fed up for good..

Evpimp says:
May 5, 2010 12:55 PM
Jimmy is Sick of seeing his beloved Packers get beat by the Vikings year in and year out…. Thats why he wants them to move so bad!
Dont worry Jimmy Mom and Dad will still hold you at night when the Packers lose games.
You must have just started watching football last season, cause the year before that they split, and the TWO years prior to that the Pack swept the Vikings. Let me do the math on this for you, that means the Pack is 5-3 against the Vikings over the last four years.

# ItalianArmyGuy says: May 5, 2010 12:55 PM
INTRODUCING – YOUR 2010 SAN ANTONIO VIKINGS!!
Brett Favre and Adrian Peterson should be a big hit in River-city. Probably the Spurs and the SA Vikes can bring home championships in the same year to the good folks of South Texas
Mexico City will get a NFL team before San Antonio does. Keep dreaming amigo

Real Packer, Bears and Lions fans wouldn’t want the Vikings to move. This has been one of the NFL’s great divisions for almost 50 years, with great rivalries (not so much for the Lions). The only “fans” of the NFC North that want to see the Vikings move are pretty much just whiny
b!tches that are just hoping a team that is competitive every decade leaves so that a weak sister team like the Rams gets put there in their place. I’m sure they’re the same type of fans that want to see injuries happen to the opposing team, just so their team has a better chance of winning. “Give my team something for free, don’t make them earn it” Classic rivalries should never be broken up in any sport.

Shouldn’t be a problem. Voters in Pittsburgh and the surrounding county voted No on a referendum to use public funds to build Heinz Field and PNC Park. A little while later they said there was a Plan B which basically involved using public funds anyway.
Democracy in action.

I love the “general public” who feel they shouldn’t have to pay for something simply because they don’t go to Vikings games. Of course they will have no problem accepting any sort of economic benefit that comes with having a pro team in your market along with the other attractions and events a new stadium would draw to the city.
Now maybe the Vikings are just a bunch of assholes and don’t do any of this, but most NFL teams give A LOT back to the community they are a part of through charitable organizations that may not even exist if it weren’t for the NFL players involved and the players themselves re-investing a lot of their money back into the area.

Why in the world would anyone put forth a bill that forces the public to pay for a private company’s stadium? I bet these are the same people who cry “socialism” whenever public money is expanded to pay for food stamps for people WHO ACTUALLY NEED PUBLIC ASSISTANCE TO LIVE!

Good for the legislature in saying no. Obviously not everyone on the committee was grafted.
If the NFL doesn’t intervene and lets a venerable franchise like this move the league will suffer for it.
@ Paulitik….not true. The financial cost/benefit of virtually all pro teams is either a saw off or a deficit over time when it comes to building new stadiums at the public’s expense because it doesn’t stop there. Interest, opportunity costs, etc. all usually over take the financial benefits.
That’s Harvard’s take on it…not mine.

I love how you useful idiots keep speculative stories going for unscrupulous journalists.
The Vikings aren’t going anywhere. Seriously, how many NFL franchises have left a particular city versus how many have stayed?
Just relax, let the process unfold and then we can all congratulate each other for saying all along that the Vikings would never leave Minnesota.

Most didn’t expect this bill to go through on the first run. It is still an important first step. Next year the heat will be on though. For now the Vikes are locked in and if the lawmakers can get a bill to keep them here next year they’d certainly not leave.
But there is a good chance that our government’s inadequecies will lead to us having to pay more for them next year, especially if the NFL shows any willingness to move the team. Paying a third of the stadium cost is more than most mid market teams historically pay, the Vikes might only offer a quarter or a fifth next year. But that is MN state law and why we pay some of the highest taxes in the nation. Poorly run government, mismanaged programs, etc.
We also need to work on the idiotic citizens in our own area that feel the Vikings stadium is going to somehow bankrupt us. Some people just lack the intelligence to understand a problem this complex and things like scope and we need some public information to be handed out.
If we don’t “buy” a stadium for our team then the team is gone. Plain and simple. So you can stfu about crap like “why we give billionaire money, er duh”. That argument is irrelevant. If we want an NFL team, then we, like all other mid to smallish markets will have to foot part of the stadium bill.
The state owns the stadium and can have 300+ events in it a year. The team will generate about as much taxes for our system as the stadium costs over its lifetime. The “cost” of the stadium is so overblown that it is hard to even talk about. Many Minnesotans will get enjoyment of having an NFL team. It is worth it and you have to be pretty idiotic not to see that. There is a reason that we’ve paid for stadiums in the past and will pay for them in the future. There are reasons many cities do the same. It is just the way it is. We are not the Cowboys with 5 times the fans and revenue. We are not the Giants/Jets with two large market teams in one building.
Will all citizens be happy with it? Well, no. But such is life. About 30% of my state taxes go to stuff I don’t want like welfare. This stadium would be less than 0.1% of our taxes. WTF who really cares? Liberals think they are so damn smart but they are the most clueless of the bunch usually. We are talking about “raising” taxes by 0.1% for an organization that will pay close to this in taxes over the time. And we get to own a state of the art indoor building for all kinds of neat events.
The only thing holding this back are people who don’t understand the issue or lawmakers too damn lazy or worried about their political future to get it done.

I love my packers, but damn! hate to see the vikes pack up, and head west. I love hating that queer team right where they are at! why don’t all you minnesotans pony up, get a job, get off welfare, pay some taxes, and build a stadium. retrackable roof? save some money and wean yourselves from indoor football!

Being a Packer fan and knowing what tradition is I hope they don’t leave and get the stadium figured out. Too much history with Marshall and Tarkington up to Moss and now Peterson. I don’t like change in the NFL.

PackAttack says:
May 5, 2010 1:13 PM
I am a huge Packers fan and I would hate to see the Vikings leave Minnesota. As much as I hate the Vikings, I love the rivalry that goes on between Green Bay and Minnesota. I think any Packer fan who is happy to see the Vikings leave is not thinking cleary. It would be one less exciting rivalry we get to look forward to each year.
x2

Confession time:
I LOVE to HATE the Purple Fairies of the North so much, I don’t really want them to go anywhere.
But it is hard NOT to root for something that you know is bringing/will bring so many of those horn-sucking Biqueen fans uncertainty and anguish.
P.S.
Contra says:
May 5, 2010 12:55 PM
ethan robert says:
May 5, 2010 12:45 PM
The news set off a giant celebration in Wisconsin.

Minnesota is almost as bad of a sports town as San Diego, almost, but not really.
what they lose? the north stars, lakers, and now the vikings?
i guess they will focus all their efforts on the Twins cause every other team there has never won anything either.
San Diego has a hall of fame but display no trophys LOL

Let’s be honest here. This state never had a pro football team to begin with. And their fans have to be some of the most unloyal and fair weather I’ve ever seen. I didn’t want the dome in the stadium anyways. The Twins should have gotten that. I swear, this stupid state always finds a way to get everything backwards. Sure, the rivalry between the Pack and the Queens won’t be the same, but this was really only a matter of time. Serves their fans right. Their getting just what they deserve.

This is NOT GOOD! well all the fans will be mad when the vikes leave WE have nothing to blame but OURSELVES! People say they hate CHILLDRESS so that’s why they don’t go, well that is going to lose the Vikes for us. This will be the last year in the dome then off to LA!!
I have been a vikes fan forever..all 30 years of life but this is sad! Who cares if you hate the coach..he wins games and division titles!! What more do the MN Fans want?? Support them this year or they will be in LA…that makes me sad thinking the vikes will move to LA. This means I will have to buy NFL Ticket

# HellsGrimTyrant says: May 5, 2010 2:00 PM
Vikings to LA
Jaguars to St. Louis
Rams to Minnesota
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uhm, wouldnt jags to LA solve the problems listed here?
as I’ve said before, economically, building a stadium makes no financial sense for the area, but most, if not all of the things that the governement does makes no financial sense, and this is something that I as a tax paying Minnesotan would be happy to see funded. cut some damn funding from welfare, housing subsidies, food stamps, MFIP, and all the money that goes to the counties for “emergency rent assistance”
here’s a hint, I’m a property manager and see tons of people purposely not pay their rent around the quarterly dates that the counties get a big boost of money from the state just so they can belly up to the table and get a big dose of it. the kicker is that they need an eviction letter from their landlords, so they wait for the letter from us (some actually come into the office early to ask for it BEFORE rent is due), then take it down to the county and have the county pay their rent. Some go so far as to pay only a portion of their previous months rent, so that the total due matches EXACTLY with what the county cap is.
Get rid of funding for stuff like this, divert that money towards the stadium and give the people what they want for a change.

Hauschild says:
May 5, 2010 1:58 PM
Just relax, let the process unfold and then we can all congratulate each other for saying all along that the Vikings would never leave Minnesota.
se18a29 says:
May 5, 2010 12:49 PM
Ziggy said the team isn’t going anywhere. He would sell it before moving it.
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Wish in one hand,…

Hate the Vikes if you want. Thats your priveledge. I hate the Packers. I hate the Bears and the Lions….But as a fan of football, I would hate to see any of those teams move and destroy the rivalries I have enjoyed for the last 40 years. There will be a Revision B to this bill on the floor by the weekend.

Let Me guess, This was the Saints fault too right? Or was is the Refs from the Championship game? Face it, even your own State thinks yall are a joke! Cry babies! We will send yall some Vicodin to numb the pain!

It’s probably the refs fault. If they wouldn’t have conspired to let the Saints win the NFC Championship game last year then the Vikings would’ve gone to the superbowl, then the government would’ve seen fit to pass the bill.
So in the end, it’s the refs fault, Drew Brees’ fault, and Sean Payton’s fault.
The thing I don’t get is…WHY DO YOU EVEN PONDER PASSING? THIS ISN’T DETROIT MAN!

As a Viking fan, I can’t think of anything worse than seeing the Vikings move. There is still time, so LA, don’t get your hopes up, keep wearing those watermellon hats. The Vikings aren’t going anywhere.

PERVY!?!?!?!? Save us!!! You said you had connections and this was a done deal. You said they aren’t going anywhere, your sources told you not to worry. Hahahahaha. You are such a QUEER!!! I fight mma I have insider politics, I’m superman (insert lame “I’m puffing myself up on the Internet because the reality is too pathetic to face” assertion) etc etc hahahahaha!
Go ahead. Now come back at me with something stupid like we beat the packers twice this year or you spelled something wrong and don’t face the real topic of my post. Loser.

Gopher football can’t sell a game out if they had given tickets away, and they get a stadium?
The Twins only sell out Brewers and Yankees home games when they were in the dome, and playoff games, and they get a stadium?
The Vikings sell out 120 straight at the Metrodome, and don’t get a stadium?
I hate being a Minnesotan sometimes. we only reward mediocrity. if LA wants the vikings, tell them to take the Timberwolves and Gopher football team too. If they took the wolves and gophers, then they’d atleast be going us a small favor.
ps: eat baby shit, LA. you can’t sustain a kickball game with your economy. if you take the vikings, they’ll be out of LA in less than 10 years. eat shit, a big bag of shit.

Pervy is out taking his Viking car flag off…ripping his Cris Carter poster off his wall…and throwing his Viking coasters away (the ones he sets his AppleTini’s on)
In all honesty…get it done. Don’t move Vikes…

What makes me laugh is all the Saints fans who have forgotten or are just to drunk to remember how willing Benson was to get the team out of NO after the Katrina almost washed the stain of a city away.
Without all the federal help that poured into LA, the San Antonio Saints would have won last years superbowl.
I’ll take crap from most franchises about the Viking’s stadium situation but the Saints aren’t one of them…

Had this passed, the Minnesota Tourism group would have had to change their tagline to “Come to Minnesota where we’ll nickel and dime you to hell when you visit so our football team can get a new stadium!”
If the Millionaire owner wants a new stadium so he can become even more rich, have him pay for it.

JimmySmith says:
May 5, 2010 12:40 PM
Defeat? Just like the Vikings have ended every single one of their seasons, in defeat.
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In the spirit of accuracy, this isn’t true. I’m sure there’s been plenty of seasons the Vikings have ended with a win. They just didn’t go to the playoffs those years.

DCViking says:
May 5, 2010 12:51 PM
True Packer fans hate the Vikings, but the love the rivalry.
Dolts and dumb asses like you (apparently) and JimmySmith don’t get it..
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You think there’s a limit on how many rivalries are allowed in the NFL? You think Packer fans’ hatred for the Bears (and pity for the Lions) wouldn’t fill the void left by the Vikings? You think we wouldn’t laugh our asses off?
I know there’s plenty of Packer fans who like the rivalry and who’d hate to see the queens move. But there’s also a lot like me who recognize that other rivalries would intensify and new ones would be established. You can still hate a team from halfway across the country. Hate has no boundaries.

DCViking says:
May 5, 2010 3:48 PM
What makes me laugh is all the Saints fans who have forgotten or are just to drunk to remember how willing Benson was to get the team out of NO after the Katrina almost washed the stain of a city away.
Without all the federal help that poured into LA, the San Antonio Saints would have won last years superbowl.
I’ll take crap from most franchises about the Viking’s stadium situation but the Saints aren’t one of them…
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Hey Jackass,
The only reason the Saints were in San Antonio is because that was the closest place with the facility to house a “Displaced” NFL Franchise and Benson owns a ranch in San Antonio. Benson was NEVER going to leave New Orleans. The Saints will ALWAYS be in NOLA. Oh and we are not flooded down here anymore, the Water is all gone, has been for years. Dont believe everything you here from Adam Shefter, or Chris Mortensen, and definitely not Florio. I bet you still believe in Santa and the Tooth Fairy huh? Still Bitter about that Ass Whippin a few months ago? Well, if you thought that broke your heart, Come to the game so I can see your cry baby face after September 9th. WHO DAT!!! Bahahahahahaha!!! World Champs!

# jimicos says: May 5, 2010 5:16 PM
DCViking says:
May 5, 2010 12:51 PM
True Packer fans hate the Vikings, but the love the rivalry.
Dolts and dumb asses like you (apparently) and JimmySmith don’t get it..
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You think there’s a limit on how many rivalries are allowed in the NFL? You think Packer fans’ hatred for the Bears (and pity for the Lions) wouldn’t fill the void left by the Vikings? You think we wouldn’t laugh our asses off?
I know there’s plenty of Packer fans who like the rivalry and who’d hate to see the queens move. But there’s also a lot like me who recognize that other rivalries would intensify and new ones would be established. You can still hate a team from halfway across the country. Hate has no boundaries.
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I’m sure you would laugh your ass off — I know I would if the roles were reversed. Over time, I’d be disappointed though.
New rivalries probably would emerge — such is evolution. However, most (notice the caveat) of the best rivalries involve geographic proximity. Furthermore, they are built over time which means you’d be starting from scratch.
I understand hate travels —- I live in DC and still hate Wisconsin without problem.

SaintsDieHard says: May 5, 2010 5:57 PM
DCViking says:
May 5, 2010 3:48 PM
What makes me laugh is all the Saints fans who have forgotten or are just to drunk to remember how willing Benson was to get the team out of NO after the Katrina almost washed the stain of a city away.
Without all the federal help that poured into LA, the San Antonio Saints would have won last years superbowl.
I’ll take crap from most franchises about the Viking’s stadium situation but the Saints aren’t one of them…
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Hey Jackass,
The only reason the Saints were in San Antonio is because that was the closest place with the facility to house a “Displaced” NFL Franchise and Benson owns a ranch in San Antonio. Benson was NEVER going to leave New Orleans. The Saints will ALWAYS be in NOLA. Oh and we are not flooded down here anymore, the Water is all gone, has been for years. Dont believe everything you here from Adam Shefter, or Chris Mortensen, and definitely not Florio. I bet you still believe in Santa and the Tooth Fairy huh? Still Bitter about that Ass Whippin a few months ago? Well, if you thought that broke your heart, Come to the game so I can see your cry baby face after September 9th. WHO DAT!!! Bahahahahahaha!!! World Champs!
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Right, Benson wouldn’t have left New Orleans — sure he wouldn’t have. Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.
One field goal constitutes an ass whipping? Not in my book, you won but that’s about it.
Congrats on the Superdome being home to both the Superbowl champs and world’s largest gang rape.

Thanks for beating me to it, Jimicos. Discussing football with Vikings fans is like talking to a goldfish. No memory. “The Packers are sick of the Vikings beating them.”
MM hadn’t lost to Childress until the second game last year. 5-0 up to that point. Of course, Vikings fans wouldn’t pay attention to that, since they don’t give 2 shits about the team until 10 wins or celebrity comes along.

GBP says:
May 5, 2010 2:59 PM
PERVY!?!?!?!? Save us!!! You said you had connections and this was a done deal. You said they aren’t going anywhere, your sources told you not to worry. Hahahahaha. You are such a QUEER!!!
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My sources are still correct juicebox sucker! Vikings will be in a stadium…mark my words turd.