cheap within-USA calling wanted

I am looking to make lots of calls within the USA (PSTN destination)over VOIP, and need per minute rates as cheap as possible. Severalproviders offer 3.9c/min eg Vonage, which is no good.

The best I can find is www.iconnecthere.com who offer 3,000 minutesfor $40 which works out at 1.3c/min, but I am looking to make at least10,000 minutes monthly of calls, and their rate above 3,000 minutes is3.9c/min so that's no good.

Do cheap reliable VOIP providers exist in the 1c/min to 1.3c/min rangefor the 10,000+ mins range? I specifically want VOIP and not PSTNoriginated calls.

In article <s0tk905386podi0qks4t1ciql90pnigncj@4ax.com>, <mike@temperateNOSPAMclimate.com> wrote:>I am looking to make lots of calls within the USA (PSTN destination)>over VOIP, and need per minute rates as cheap as possible. Several>providers offer 3.9c/min eg Vonage, which is no good.

For $50/mo, Vonage's small business plan offers unlimited calls to theU.S. and Canada. You have to use their adapter, of course.Voicepulse has a similar deal for $45/mo.

Both prohibit telemarketing. fax blasting, and continuous callforwarding so you'd better give us a hint of what you plan do do withthose 10K minutes so we can suggest a carrier who'll let you do whatyou want to do.

You need to purchase wholesale to get those rates. Which means you need to commit to a minimum of a million minutes a month

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mike@temperateNOSPAMclimate.com wrote:

> I am looking to make lots of calls within the USA (PSTN destination)> over VOIP, and need per minute rates as cheap as possible. Several> providers offer 3.9c/min eg Vonage, which is no good.> > The best I can find is www.iconnecthere.com who offer 3,000 minutes> for $40 which works out at 1.3c/min, but I am looking to make at least> 10,000 minutes monthly of calls, and their rate above 3,000 minutes is> 3.9c/min so that's no good.> > Do cheap reliable VOIP providers exist in the 1c/min to 1.3c/min range> for the 10,000+ mins range? I specifically want VOIP and not PSTN> originated calls.

>In article <s0tk905386podi0qks4t1ciql90pnigncj@4ax.com>,> <mike@temperateNOSPAMclimate.com> wrote:>>I am looking to make lots of calls within the USA (PSTN destination)>>over VOIP, and need per minute rates as cheap as possible. Several>>providers offer 3.9c/min eg Vonage, which is no good.>>For $50/mo, Vonage's small business plan offers unlimited calls to the>U.S. and Canada. You have to use their adapter, of course.>Voicepulse has a similar deal for $45/mo.>>Both prohibit telemarketing. fax blasting, and continuous call>forwarding so you'd better give us a hint of what you plan do do with>those 10K minutes so we can suggest a carrier who'll let you do what>you want to do.

fax blasting

:-)

I don't think any provider will allow fax blasting on flat rate. Itwill have to be per minute. Cheapest per minute provider?

>>fax blasting>>Don't all those TCPA lawsuits drive up the overall cost?

It's for a good cause, as it's not commercial. Without telling you thedetails, it's for a project where the recipients get drenched withfaxes anyway, and it wouldn't be appropriate for them to complain ifthey get one or two a week from me.

If you can be constructive as to which VOIP provider allows ultracheap per minute rates, I would be very interested. Thanks.

>In his case, he wants to do bulk faxing which all of the flat rate>plans specifically prohibit, both because it uses a lot more minutes>than voice users do and because most bulk faxing in the US is illegal.

Is it? I didn't know that. I want to fax about 1,000 business numbersand it's of a semi-political lobbying nature. The recipients can'treally complain cos it's their job to listen.

>>In his case, he wants to do bulk faxing which all of the flat rate>>plans specifically prohibit, both because it uses a lot more minutes>>than voice users do and because most bulk faxing in the US is illegal.

>Is it? I didn't know that. I want to fax about 1,000 business numbers>and it's of a semi-political lobbying nature. The recipients can't>really complain cos it's their job to listen.

You might want to review 47 USC 227, which bans unsolicited commercialfaxes. Sending political faxes should be OK so long as they're reallypolitical and don't say "support spotted owls by buying our inkjetcartridges." There's a lot of case law about faxes which purport tobe non-commercial but are really ads with a picture of a missing childattached.

On the other hand, you're hardly the first person to think of faxblasting legislators, and it is my impression that the chances arerather low that your faxes will get more than two seconds of attentionby a staffer on the way from the fax machine to the recycle bin.

>On the other hand, you're hardly the first person to think of fax>blasting legislators, and it is my impression that the chances are>rather low that your faxes will get more than two seconds of attention>by a staffer on the way from the fax machine to the recycle bin.

To return to the original question, are there any cheaper options thanwww.iconnecthere.com or is this topic lumbering to a close?