Dude. This is my only first run cyclone, a.k.a. 1-disc challenge cyclone. My buddy parked his jeep right in the middle of my driveway, right in the middle of The Green Course hole 7. I hit the wheel well and thats all it took. Tell Scott Papa I switched to APX Swirls. Just got two new red ones with Lumberjack 04 stamps hehehe