And Marth is Chromís ancestor. Sigurd was born thousands of years before Marth and Marth thousands of years before Chrom, so if your theory was true Marth would have to be Sigurdís descendant. Which he isnít as RJWalker has already explained.

Naga made several pacts with humans through the ages that were pretty unrelated to each other. Besides, Sigurd isnít even descended from Heim, the Crusader who made the pact with Naga personally. Thatís Azmur, Kurth, and then later Julia. Sigurdís descended from Baldr who has little to nothing to do with Naga.

I definitely wouldnít call Daein Easily Forgiven. It suffers under Begnion for a while, then enters another war with Crimea plus the entire Laguz Alliance. Itís given a view into the lives of its ordinary people who were just along for the ride with Ashnard at the helm but not completely absolved of the destruction Ashnatd caused. The politics are messy with friends from the previous war caught on different sides of it, and it isnít until Ashera pops down threatening to bring the apocalypse that everyone drops the grudges they have against each other.

x2 It's roughly around 2000 or so years for each gap if I recall correctly. I know Kaga went on record saying that human civilization on Archanea was still very underdeveloped during the Holy War on Jugdral.

Judgral as a whole seems to go for a more The Dung Ages feel to things, and Awakening is more reminiscent of the Enlightenment-ish era than the typical medieval setting, though, yeah, other than that, not a whole lot has changed technologically from that time.

I think the idea of Archanea, Valentia and Jugdral (and later Ylisse and Valm, though I am curious what became of Jugdral after the war) sharing a world is a super interesting one, even though most of their crossover is off-screen or in the distant past. Getting another game on future!Jugdral would be cool.

[[quotebloack]]Yeah, he's weak. That's intentional, he's a weak person who relies on the support of others and is envious of Micaiah's charisma and the loyalty she inspires in others. Towards the end of the liberation war, he starts to grow a spine, delivering a rousing speech to the soldiers that actually does inspire them for the final push. [[/quoteblock]]
It's only barely the start of it. He almost doesn't even get to give it, but the BK steps in, all, "Hey, you little shits, sit down and listen to the King."

Then it cuts off before he really gets a chance to do anything more. The game itself undermining his sacrifice is important because it very easily comes across as a meta attempt to squeeze a bit of cheap sympathy out of a weaker character before he gets fridged.

Judgral as a whole seems to go for a more The Dung Ages feel to things, and Awakening is more reminiscent of the Enlightenment-ish era than the typical medieval setting, though, yeah, other than that, not a whole lot has changed technologically from that time.

Combat magic is much more diverse, so I guess it can be extrapolated that any utility magic used to aid in more mundane tasks has likely seem similar progression. Quantifying technological advance in a setting where magic obsoletes many things prior to our most modern electronics is difficult. I suppose the games could have taken this to the extreme and had magic dominate and push society into some kind of golden age, though.

x2 I don't think there's much utility magic at all in the Fire Emblem universes. The most we see is teleportation magic, and even that can malfunction and create odd, badly-written plot points. (Luckily made much better in the localization)

FE magic is very much Magic A Is Magic A with the tomes and staves. I think people can tweak tomes slightly at the most, but magic isn't really capable of being used for much else besides healing, buffing, or throwing fireballs at people. And the occasional magic weapon which just makes it more powerful, sometimes unbreakable, and lets it shoot like, waves of energy at people.

Awakening, in the ending of Summer Scramble, introduces a tome that can basically take snapshots, so there's some form of utility magic there.

Not going to lie, I would love to see such a tome get used in future games. Especially if we can use it to take pictures of playable units getting critical hits on boss characters or something similar.

Why is Daein and the like are easily forgiven in their sequels. But hey at least the POV lords' side are never in the wrong.

It's the logical progression of a theme that's been there since Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light. Every country has at least some decent people in it, even if their rulers are evil, and the actions of a king do not have a bearing on the morality or worthiness of his subjects.

Also I don't think any of the PCs in Radiant Dawn fought for Daein.

Chrom's holy blood is given a source: a new pact made by the First Exalt with Naga. It's outright stated that this why Chrom's family has holy blood.

Oh, is it? Huh, I must have missed that titbit.

Sigurd was born thousands of years before Marth and Marth thousands of years before Chrom, so if your theory was true Marth would have to be Sigurdís descendant.

Wait, what? Why would Sigurd have to be Marth's ancestor? The three millennia between Mystery of the Emblem and Awakening gives more than enough time for a descendent of Sigurd to marry a descendent of Marth, and for one of that couple's descendents to found Ylisse. Heck, according to the wiki, Emmeryn's royal title is the same as the one Seliph used.

Sigurd isnít even descended from Heim, the Crusader who made the pact with Naga personally. Thatís Azmur, Kurth, and then later Julia. Sigurdís descended from Baldr who has little to nothing to do with Naga.

The three millennia between Mystery of the Emblem and Awakening gives more than enough time for a descendent of Sigurd to marry a descendent of Marth, and for one of that couple's descendents to found Ylisse.

They didn't though. I don't mean to be so blunt about it, but Jugdral or what has become of Jugdral has no contact with Ylisse or even Valm.

If a descendant of the legendary Seliph married a descendant of the legendary Marth, there would have been something explicitly stated about it, either in- or out- of universe.

It's also confirmed that the First Exalt wasn't Marth, but Marth's descendant, and Chrom's ancestor.

And just having the same Japanese title doesn't equal a connection. "Holy King" [gender neutral in Japanese] just means...you know, a monarch of a kingdom that is holy or blessed by the gods. Alm also has that title, so by that logic, Alm would have to be descended from Seliph too. And...he's not.

edit: Fair enough about the utility stuff though, I'd forgotten all of those other things, though those are all pretty much in Awakening's time, so that might have been a case of technological progress after Shadow Dragon and such. I guess we see it most often in a war context because of obvious reasons.

Valentian magic seems to be tied to Duma and Mila specifically, which seems to negate the need for tomes. Their magic infused the continent itself, so I imagine Valentian mages have to draw on that and part of their own life force to use it.

Edited by ILikeRobots on Feb 12th 2019 at 10:23:20 AM

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Funnily enough Judgral fashion looks more modern than Archanea's despite taking place earlier. There must be some earth-shattering event that turns their technology and fashion levels back a few steps in between FE 4 and 1.

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