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True, but since when are the Steelers in the business of protecting people's feelings. If our current coordinator is not getting the job done, ie personnel or scheme, whatever, why not give this guy a chance now then? Lebeau is not bigger than this organization and this team-city is losing money every year we don't host a playoff game (going on 3years now) so why not make the change if that's the direction we're going next year? That would only benefit the current players heading into next year. Point being, I think it's safe to say this season is finished and its time to look to the future.

Agreed, but we also cannot assume that he will do something different/better than DLB either. I think asking what he will do and how it will make us better is fair. He is somewhat of an unknown quantity.

True, but since when are the Steelers in the business of protecting people's feelings. If our current coordinator is not getting the job done, ie personnel or scheme, whatever, why not give this guy a chance now then? Lebeau is not bigger than this organization and this team-city is losing money every year we don't host a playoff game (going on 3years now) so why not make the change if that's the direction we're going next year? That would only benefit the current players heading into next year. Point being, I think it's safe to say this season is finished and its time to look to the future.

Not to mention do we even know if Ben wants to play here anymore. If you were him, would you want to?

Agreed, but we also cannot assume that he will do something different/better than DLB either. I think asking what he will do and how it will make us better is fair. He is somewhat of an unknown quantity.

Just think about your current job, just cause you have a boss that you've learned stuff from doesn't mean you'd do exactly the same if you took over for them.

Maybe they don't see eye to eye on a lot of things and butler has huge ideas but staying and coaching the linebackers waiting for the old man to move on was his best option. I'd be excited to see what he could bring, there's am
Awful lot of coaches who worked under coaches they are nothing like when they get their shot

Recipe for winning on D

Originally Posted by K Train

Just think about your current job, just cause you have a boss that you've learned stuff from doesn't mean you'd do exactly the same if you took over for them.

Maybe they don't see eye to eye on a lot of things and butler has huge ideas but staying and coaching the linebackers waiting for the old man to move on was his best option. I'd be excited to see what he could bring, there's am
Awful lot of coaches who worked under coaches they are nothing like when they get their shot

I just do not think that they kept him on as D Coordinator in waiting because he is so DIFFERENT than DLB. I am not saying that he will not be different, just that we do not know much of anything about him. His only DC job was in 1998 for Arkansas State.

So if the franchise is going to pick the coordinators they want then what is the point of the head coach? I don't remember Cowher having coordinators picked for him. And how is this different from what Jerry Jones and AL Davis have done with their teams? How can we judge Tomlin if he's not given a chance to bring in what he thinks are coaches that can help the talent on this team?

So if the franchise is going to pick the coordinators they want then what is the point of the head coach? I don't remember Cowher having coordinators picked for him. And how is this different from what Jerry Jones and AL Davis have done with their teams? How can we judge Tomlin if he's not given a chance to bring in what he thinks are coaches that can help the talent on this team?

Honestly you have no idea what the inner workings were in hiring haley or keeping lebeau/arians on his staff, you are making massive assumptions