No, you participated in that thread.
It is just that the NS customer support email was not very clear/potentially misleading. The SL is fundamentally directional, not twin. Not very directional (so you can get close to a twin riding experience), but directional nonetheless.

Can anyone, objectively say, they can notice the 1/2" setback on a board like the SL? Blind testing (no graphics) would anyone know?

Can anyone, objectively say, they can notice the 1/2" setback on a board like the SL? Blind testing (no graphics) would anyone know?

Probably not. If you ride two versions of the same board, one with a slight setback and the other without, back-to-back in a powder situation... yes, the pickier riders will notice.

If you're a rider like BurtonAvenger, I'm sure you can discern the difference on any condition.

What I can personally tell you is this: if you give me a directional twin board that has had the stance centered to be twinned out, I will be able to tell. Setting yourself in front of the sidecut alters the performance noticeably even if it is half an inch because you are now in front of the narrowest part of the board. Your regular riding will feel like your switch.

Probably not. If you ride two versions of the same board, one with a slight setback and the other without, back-to-back in a powder situation... yes, the pickier riders will notice.

If you're a rider like BurtonAvenger, I'm sure you can discern the difference on any condition.

What I can personally tell you is this: if you give me a directional twin board that has had the stance centered to be twinned out, I will be able to tell. Setting yourself in front of the sidecut alters the performance noticeably even if it is half an inch because you are now in front of the narrowest part of the board. Your regular riding will feel like your switch.

No, you participated in that thread.
It is just that the NS customer support email was not very clear/potentially misleading. The SL is fundamentally directional, not twin. Not very directional (so you can get close to a twin riding experience), but directional nonetheless.

Just looked at that thread out of interest and it seems pretty clear from the emails that the SL and the heritage have symmetrical sidecuts and the inserts have a 0.5 inch setback for slightly better carving/float.

The video you posted (from NS) states the opposite that the sidecut is setback on those two boards

Just looked at that thread out of interest and it seems pretty clear from the emails that the SL and the heritage have symmetrical sidecuts and the inserts have a 0.5 inch setback for slightly better carving/float.

The video you posted (from NS) states the opposite that the sidecut is setback on those two boards

Which one is it.

Exactly, that is the question.

However, I have reservations about the customer service response:

It is simply ambiguous. 'Symmetrical' could mean symmetrical with respect to the inserts. Or it could mean symmetrical/centered along the length of board. Two different things. Heck, it could mean even more things - like that the sidecuts are not off-set against each other (like the old Burton boards), etc.

NS customer service, while really good about responding quickly, has a history of pretty poorly informed statements. For instance, they tried to tell me that my weight did not matter for board sizing and that I should go by height (the old bullshit about board length between nose and chin) and/or the same length as my existing board (really, even if it is an old-fashioned camber stick? Me thinks not...). I have more faith in Gags getting his facts correct...

Hey guys!
Thought i post this here and not make a new thread. I bought a proto ct 154 and wear 9.5 burton ruler boots.
I wanna buy a pair of 390 Bosses and from what most people say L/XL is the size i should go for. Will the L/XL fit my proto ok?
Thanks!