Wow! If you haven't caught any coverage, you need to. Forget the whole lack of Tiger issue everyone has decided to attach to this major (though I would enjoy seeing him in any tournament), but what an ego boost. This tourney, like none other than I've ever seen, has these guys completely rattled. Unlike the Bethpage U.S. Open, where the greens were the major handicap, the entire course and conditions are kicking these guys square in the nuts. If you want to watch pros hit shots that most of us can relate to, catch some of this tournament. These guys are all over the place. Friday has not been as ridiculous as Thursday, but who knows what conditions the weekend will bring. The Shark and Duval even in the mix, are you kidding me? Ya gotta love the majors.

I'm bummed about JD's performance. Did he even try? He is by far my favorite golfer (Elk being #2) and that was rather disappointing.

Yes, how about The Shark and Double D. It's great to see both those guys up there after day 2. Wouldn't it be something if one of them actually pulled it off? I used to hate on Duval when he was good (pre-Tiger) but now all I do is root for the guy.

BDFD wrote:I'm bummed about JD's performance. Did he even try? He is by far my favorite golfer (Elk being #2) and that was rather disappointing.

Yes, how about The Shark and Double D. It's great to see both those guys up there after day 2. Wouldn't it be something if one of them actually pulled it off? I used to hate on Duval when he was good (pre-Tiger) but now all I do is root for the guy.

Always liked David Duval. His flame out was one of the deep mysteries of sports.

The inaccessibility has deep roots. Considering the blows that Duval absorbed growing up, it shouldn't come as a surprise that he assumes a peekaboo stance when dealing with the outside world. When Duval was nine, bone marrow was extracted from his hips in an unsuccessful attempt to save the life of his 12-year-old brother, Brent, who had been stricken with aplastic anemia, a blood disorder. The trauma of losing their first child ravaged the marriage of Bob and Diane Duval, and David spent his adolescence in a dysfunctional family. The devastating effect that separation and a 1996 divorce had on his mother unsettled Duval. His father's subsequent remarriage compounded the pain. In the face of so much turmoil, Duval withdrew into himself. Rock is also an island.

David doesn't remember very much about Brent. "Just little scenes, like flying a kite together or him sticking up for me in a group, or playing pool with him in the hospital," he says. "I think about him more in October, when his birthday comes up." David doesn't remember undergoing the operation that extracted the marrow. Within two weeks of the procedure, Brent suffered a graft-versus-host reaction that proved fatal.

"David had a lot of problems right after that," says his father. "He was just a kid, he loved Brent, and he really believed that it was his fault that it didn't work. He became more of a loner. He never lets people see his emotions, happy or sad. We have never really talked about Brent's death. It's always been tough for him to open up, and especially tough for him to trust."

Told of his father's recollection that he suffered from guilt, David says, "It's hard to look back and say either way." Asked whether the experience had made it difficult for him to trust, he says, "I can't really answer that. It would be less than honest." His face impassive but his discomfort obvious, Duval closes the conversation. "I really don't remember what it's like to have a brother," he says. "It's like I've had two separate lives."

Mitch wrote:That five wood Padraig hit on 17 into that wind with that much pressure was one of the best non-Tiger shots I've seen in a long time.

Bummer Norman couldn't hang on, it was a great story...but this wasn't a 1996 Masters choke job.

Someone just needed four straight days of knowing how to play in those kind of conditions, plus the ability to hit those low punch shots, AND be able to putt in 35 mph cross winds.

Damn...that would have been a lot of fun to see Tiger and Paddy go at it in the last group under these conditions.

My problem with Norman was brought up by the commentators as well: What he was he thinking (or not thinking) regarding club selection? He stuck witht he driver and by the time he figured it out he was on the bad side of momentum.

If a 50+ legend doesn't know how to handle those winds of Saturday and Sunday I'm not sure who would. Still, he had a little magic in him for the tourney. It was a welcome diversion in a Tiger-less tourney.

Agree on the 5-wood. Risky shot at the time given he's nursing a lead and birdie wuld have been a given had he played it safe. But he was Superman on a roll at the time.

While replacing the Open with any other tournament would be a joke, I agree with Rome that the British Open does suck. I dont want to turn my TV at 7am in July to watch a bunch of wankers wearing thermals playing golf in 50 degree weather with 40 mph winds. I don't care if golf started there, thats not interesting to me.

Give me 6" rough and greens as fast as car hoods over that crap any day.

The PGA is lame too because its run by an association of professional golfers and won't let amateurs play.

The Masters is solid, because of the exclusivity of the course, the fact that its run by a private organization, the history, and the television broadcast featuring limited commercials. The focus is on golf.

The US Open of course is the best, because its open. They don't care if you're a driving range pro who's entry check is signed by a stripper, if you qualify, you're in.

Stu wrote:While replacing the Open with any other tournament would be a joke, I agree with Rome that the British Open does suck. I dont want to turn my TV at 7am in July to watch a bunch of wankers wearing thermals playing golf in 50 degree weather with 40 mph winds. I don't care if golf started there, thats not interesting to me.

Give me 6" rough and greens as fast as car hoods over that crap any day.

The PGA is lame too because its run by an association of professional golfers and won't let amateurs play.

The Masters is solid, because of the exclusivity of the course, the fact that its run by a private organization, the history, and the television broadcast featuring limited commercials. The focus is on golf.

The US Open of course is the best, because its open. They don't care if you're a driving range pro who's entry check is signed by a stripper, if you qualify, you're in.

Dude- Don't fuckin' get up at 7am and watch it then. Turn on the Greater Milwaukee Open. You can find it. Leave the Open to people who appreciate it and don't think it sucks.

From now on the Masters ain't a major and it sucks cuz its run by a cabal of 80yr old supremacists with old money that not only discriminates against blacks and women but also against former champions who can't keep up with the pace of play.

Welcome to Augusta where the year is always 1940.

The majors are the majors. Different tests, different styles, different courses, different tastes.

The majors are the majors. Different tests, different styles, different courses, different tastes.

Rack that.

To me, the PGA Championship is the equivalent of the Pro Bowl.

The Masters is great because of the tradition, and the fact that it's the first one of the year, held in April, when I'm really ready to start getting into the golf and out of the Winter funk (although Peeker has a good point).

The U.S. Open is great due to how tough it is...as long as they don't make it stupid (like they've done for 5 of the last 7 years).

But the British Open is a completely different test, one that truly draws the entire world, to play the game like a real live SPORT. No rain delays unless the water is deeper than 4 inches. No miniature golf level gimmicks like island greens. No catering to whinny millionaires who get upset if they get their footjoys dirty in less than artificially pristine conditions.

I can't think of a better place to go watch a golf tournament than the Old Course at St. Andrews...hopefully I'll be there in 2010.

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