It was actually just ‘Ye on it. I had already raved over the record because it leaked. I was like listen, there is no way this can’t be on your album, you’d have to be crazy. He was like “Really, you think so?” I was like c’mon man we got to stop treating rap like oh it came out it’s dead. When it’s good, we have to make people love it and digest it.

What have the artists said about the song?

I feel like it’s a verse that’s a standout moment for me and a lot of people took notice at that point. If they weren’t noticing before, they definitely took notice at that time because everybody else was on that track – and to have a stellar verse like that…