On the matter of Developing Popular Support, see from earlier this month in the “anything left to discuss?” thread:

Social reign of Christ the King.
10 Commandments.
No abortion.
No perversion.
Death penalty for sexual abuse of children, rape, and violent crimes.
Death penalty for crimes against humanity, including economic crimes against humanity.
No malum prohibitum “crimes.”
No government licensing of professions (caveat emptor).
End no-fault divorce (if you walk away from a marriage, you leave with nothing, no alimony, no custody, no property).
People who promote war must be on the front lines (no exceptions).
No usury (no profit on the simple loan of money).
No fractional reserve banking.
No private central banks.
End sovereign immunity (added to the original list).

As a rough estimate, I already have about 1.5 million practicing Catholics (“trads”) who implicitly support this “platform.” An even rougher estimate, I already have about an equal number of “conservative” Novus Ordinarians (almost practicing Catholics, but still think a non-Catholic/anti-Catholic can be Pope) who implicitly give popular support to this “platform.”

Excepting concern for “popish politics,” a significant number of Protestants (no Zionist Evangelicals, of course) give popular support to this platform.

Who offers different “planks” or a “platform” that has or can develop popular support? Compare and contrast. 🙂

No lawyers (laws are so few and simple that people represent themselves).
No corporations (partnerships are allowed, but all partners are known publicly and liable).
No judicial activism (no erosion of law by precedents).

Men are no less obliged to heed the [Catholic] Church collectively in political society, for it would be absurd to say that individuals must obey God whereas the societies they form can freely ignore His Law. Caesar too must render to God what is His.

Christ and His Church lay claim, therefore, to both men and nations, both being governed by the Gospel in their respective spheres of activity, and this is what the Church calls the Social Kingship of Christ. For as God Incarnate said of Himself: “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man cometh to the Father, but by Me” (John 14:6).

Seems to work and certainly took no affront at the no-commenting thingy. I have noticed in the last many months that each comment now requires the email addr & screen name input. I suspect that is a function of either my own cookie settings or the Akismet mechanism.

So let’s not waste our time on whether one can fight a war in defense of a belief system. When the enemies of our belief system – specifically, Christianity – are already openly at war with us, our alternatives are somewhat limited….

You had to do what you had to do to lock the place down so there wouldn’t be any chance of a religious / irreligious war on the “He Is Risen” message thread on the Christian Holy Day of Easter Sunday.
That you had a little trouble getting it unlocked and back up and running again is the “price that had to be paid” (religious reference intentional) for keeping any disrespectful and unrestrained “free speech” out of certain areas at sensitive times.
We appreciate all the work you do in keeping this place running.

Wondered what had happened. Glad to see return to normal. Would have been done posting if it required registration beyond what is currently is use. Although some commenters are tiring, there are still things to be learned from everyone here at times. Free speech is the perfect picture of a tumultuous liberty, which I vastly prefer to a peaceful slavery.

Glad the comment login was just a technical error and not an editorial decision. I’m not willing to index my comments by fake social media account, pre-packaging them for digestion by whatever they’re using for parallel construction fishing expeditions.

Developing Popular Support

Means ringing doorbells to collect votes for your favorite would-be ruler. Which we already know doesn’t work. There is no voting your way out of it. Only 1 in 100 humans wants liberty. Only a small percentage of commenters here want liberty, most want to subject you to their particular flavor of puritanism. What is to be done with the law enforcers Al Liquori’s tribe hires? Or, as The Sound of Music could have said while fleeing the Nazis, how do you solve a problem like Sharia? An answer is with swarms of modern computerized weapons. Enough weapons that the abortion-banners and border-fencers and work-permitters dare do nothing more than talk. MAD seems the only arrangement which can be stable in theory. There are currently about 200 countries on the planet, why couldn’t there be 20,000, same as the number of religions? If you profess to believe in a particular sect of gray aliens in silver spaceships, then you obey those priests’ rules.

Actually… I rather like the idea of NO professional or standing law enforcement. When a problem becomes important to the community at large, the community may take steps to solve the problem ad hoc. Not convinced that is entirely workable (hence not stated in the “platform”), but I rather like the ideal.

So. Al. Suppose that when your tribe is doing colonial expansion, it bumps up against a defensive barrier it can’t overcome. Imagine the magic fence from Heinlein’s Coventry. The barrier is marked with a sign saying, welcome to libertarian-land, past this line nobody gets to impose policy about abortion, sexuality, interest rates, or marriage. For all you know, it’s full of gay atheists having sex on the front lawn while tied to crucifixes. Is your inability to enforce your policies on these human beings going to cause some sort of mass mental breakdown in your tribe members? Will you all freak out? Or, like the Amish, will you live your life your way, without apparent distress about your neighbors who you believe are misguided?

Another situation. There is no Heinlein magic fence. Instead, your neighbors down the suburban block are atheists who advertise their prostitution and abortion business with gay sex on the front lawn at dinnertime. When one of your tribe’s LEOs gangs steps across the white picket fence, drones swoop down to drop them from height like Pinochet. Worse, when you yell at them they are going to Hell, they laugh at you. They are rich, successful, satisfied, happy, and you seem to be having no impact on them. Again, will your inability to enforce your policies on them cause some sort of mental breakdown in your family?

“… Basically, money gives you the freedom to do what you’d like – and when, how, and with whom you prefer to do it. Money allows you to have things and do things and can even assist you to be something you want to be…”

“…The debt and inflation have also financed the growth of the welfare state, making a large percentage of the masses dependent, even while they’ve also resulted in an immense expansion in the size and power of the state over the last 60-odd years. The masses have come to think government is a magical entity that can do almost anything, including kiss the economy and make it better when the going gets tough. The type of people who are drawn to the government are eager to make the state a panacea…”

When satisfaction of human political instincts are thwarted by liberty, many people feel what is almost an agoraphobia. Naked, exposed, and unprotected. “Quick! Do anything to get a ruler back in place to protect me!” This fear is unrelated to whatever the actual threat situation is. For most people, politics is emotionally supported by both the joy of power AND the fear of liberty.

Think of the word “libertarian” as meaning a personal foreign policy of non-colonialism. Whatever a libertarian believes, he won’t try to convert you to his religion by the sword. By definition, only libertarians are safe as neighbors; everyone else is an enemy.

Imagine naked gay atheist libertarians having a pride march down your suburban street. Obviously, their behavior doesn’t injure in the slightest your ability to remain clothed, straight, and faithful. But people with an unreasoning, perhaps phobic, fear of liberty are going to be freaking out. They are going to be organizing attacks.

Here’s a partial plan for liberation using robots. Troll some intolerable stimulus down each residential street with a self-driving vehicle, kill whoever attacks it. Just like a mosquito fogging truck. Maybe it’s a mobile vending machine for opiates, cocaine, suppressed machine guns, and standard-flow shower heads.

And now, a crucial reminder of priorities. Posted in comments on Zman’s Happy Homelands video series:

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“Please listen to Frodi at about 18:00 minutes into the first video. He speaks correctly, I think, to the point about “going underground” in the face of the assault on truth and speakers thereof by the left.

He contends that we are winning and that we have them on the ropes, that these deplatforming and other measures are acts of desperation on the part of our enemies. They have shown their intent and nature and folks a re waking up to the threat they pose. Now is not the time to disappear but to turn up the pressure. Drive them to de-legitimize themselves evermore.

His recollection of a conversation with another resister is bedrock morality: We cannot protect our families if we are not men, and men do not cower from the truth, nor from threats from our enemies. If we do not achieve ethnostates for our children they will have no future. Listen again, as my paraphrasing does him but pale justice.

The only choice to be made here is between courage and cowardice, between the future and annihilation.

Men have been dying for the future of their children for all time”

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There it is in the clearest and most concise terms I can manage

As Two inTwelve states, above:

“So let’s not waste our time on whether one can fight a war in defense of a belief system. When the enemies of our belief system – specifically, Christianity – are already openly at war with us, our alternatives are somewhat limited….”

If things do fall apart and ad hoc governance is needed all I will support is what is allowed in the Bible because that is not subjective or agenda driven.

Lending for interest is allowed but not usury which should be determined by the community. Divorce is allowed only for adultery but separation is allowed. God wants peace in the family not an eternal war. As for custody of the children that should be decided by a jury not a judge. The money and property should go with the children. Think before you marry.

Homosexuality is forgivable and curable like any addiction. But if it is being aggressively propagated it should be internally exiled, imprisoned or executed.

Islam should be renounced for Christianity, exiled or executed.
No pagan should be allowed to hold public or educational office where children are younger than 21. All claims of origin must be in venues that allow counter claims with advanced notice to the general public.

Gold standard institutionalized. And national debt larger than 3% of GNP should trigger impeachment articles except in times of imminent or ongoing war. Term limits!!!

I think all Biblical (5 thru 10) commandments that pertain to man to man relationships should be the totality of law allowed in court. “Did you or did you not do this or that” supported by the rules of evidence. Absolutely no precedence allowed in law. Every aspect of a case frozen in time as if it is the very first in all of history. I’m not talking about OT ritual and dietary laws that pertain to Israel only.

All convicted crimes punishable by death should be reviewed within 30 days and reversed or completed. Convictions based on police criminality should carry the death penalty for the cops.

To not support Israel’s claim to all they hold or will hold is a death wish on our part. Israel only holds a small portion of what God gave them. Leave them alone and live. That is God’s promise.

I am a born again evangelical Christian and Zionist. And I do not turn the other cheek to pagans or Jew hating Catholics. A Jew, rich or pour that lives by our laws is no different than any of us and if a messianic Jew much better than the inbreds that pontificate on issues far above their paygrade
and brute morality. All Biblically ignorant but quite certain they know what God thinks or does.