There is a lot of propaganda going on, even here on esreality I see a lot of it. With poor JamJam worrying about muslim immigrants so much, I worry he might have a blind spot for the dangers that far-right extremists pose. Stay safe, Jamerio, in case you're worried you can always adopt some of their rhetoric to maybe pretend to fit in. Perhaps make some posts on esreality that paint you as such, so that you have something to show them if you ever need to.

Hmm I don't know how to react on your comment. A few years ago I might argue with you as a Polish "colonist" with a British fellow. But right now looking at UK flag, I can't even judge if you are British.

Their organisation has been completely compromised. The only thing they are good for is nature programs.

As for the far right, muslims have killed over 35+ people through multiple terrorist attacks in my country alone this year (excluding failed attempts) and that's a demographic which accounts for less than 5 percent of the population, which is currently out-breeding you, what's it going to be like in 20 years time?

The far right are nowhere near as prolific. Not even close.
And their potential numbers are many many times higher.

P.S.

Even today, a terror attack has been thwarted in San Francisco, and guess what, he was a muslim convert.

The other day it was melbourne (muslim), the other week it was london( muslim) and new york (muslim).

Its not racist to point out the truth.

If someone uses statistics to play the stock market and wins they are a genius.

If someone tells the truth they are seen as a good person.

If you point out the truth on how people in y our country are being killed, people like you call you a nazi.

No wonder you people are losing everything and getting more desperate and predictable.

Do you notice people they never put up a counter argument, they just pretend you're some piece of dirt, but dare not consider what their views advocate and make them.

Its always the same....

Some topics in life only have tough answers (abortion etc), why don't you do yourself a favor and realize that instead of blaming the person brave enough to put them down and making yourself look stupid.

i dont understand OP. Wanna see these extremists do extreme things but I bet they drink in pubs and talk about nationalistic extremist stuff instead of doing it. We are so far removed from extremism that it is nothing but a label now that the tv stamps on you if you talk shit. That fact that you never follow it up concerns not the far left liberals - the concern for racism is bigger and we go as far as protecting clear hate speech by these people as free speech while they are actually following through by stabbing, shooting and running over innocent civilians, mothers, husbands. I really want to see a good right wing crime now. But nothing good at least in the last 20 years and I'm giving up hope. We are so soft that if you say that we have to watch immigration from non western cultures you are instantly an edge lord despite these guys kill innocents, rape women and all the jolly fun. This is not at all a joke.

boggles my mind that we have to even discuss this in uncertain terms.
Beware of not considering facts because that could take lives and if you don't vote against this at every opportunity you get, and you support uncritical acceptance of other folks "culture" then the blood is already on your hand. These people will not stop they are believers.

The person who got run over was run over because the stupid idiot was standing in the middle of the road with a bunch of violent libtards who for months prior had been part of a movement blocking roads, pavements, smashing property and violently assaulting people because they did not win a democratic election.

The person who got killed was killed, because they were part of the people doing that.

Lastly, if you look at the actual video here, you'll see the guy was being attacked by these very group of people BEFORE he run into them, you will also observe the car was going very slow.
He only sped up (a bit) when the guy outside swung an object at the rear left.

Check the frame at 3 seconds, guy in a grey top swinging a weapon at the car and god knows what else he had endured before then.

Nobody gives a fuck that some left wing scumbag who was part of part of a lynch mob which has been going around using violence, fear, and intimidation for months prior got run over.

So don't even try to pretend that what happened here was some kind of organic right wing extremist, when the place was full of violent, left wing scum behaving like animals themselves.

Don't give a shit who you are, if you're being violently abused while in your car with a lynch mob outside who are forcing you to stay and potentially get beaten like they had been doing here, you have every right to get out of there before this happens. See; a consistent logical belief system.

The left then hijacked this story because for MONTHS PRIOR, their camp had been behaving like terrorists across the entire US and you wanted to say see, those guys were evil after all.

Your camp had been looking to pick a fight months...

Next shitty argument for me to destroy with truth, logic and reason please....

Pretending that shit is the some kind of organic problem the right created is hilarious. Don't stand in roads attacking people and you probably won't get run over.

We all know which demographic/religion is linked with actively involved in running people over on purpose.

yes, but how many more Europeans should die not hypothetically until you take it seriously? :D
Because you took out one event, which wasn't an organized attack by multiple people which are a part of an organization that has a clear goal, the means and support to systematically terrorize not one country but the whole western world :) You had one imaginary scenario that in your mind tops or at least balances all the actual terrorism that happened until now. Should I fear something that shows very few signs of happening with any regularity or should I take action towards the actual deaths and ticking bombs?
Your argument is bizarre.

why do you comment on vaccines here ? I have a topic for that. You had zero argument there, and the topic before (the conspiracy one) you were sourced to death by lolograde . Open your mouth there. Critique the analysis. Show how the data is false. Your mind has a problem with facts, mine don't. Source your shit, this sinister prophet act you pull every time you are beaten to pulp by observable data is akin to a sulking child's behavior. Also please have the nuance at the fucking very least to separate politics from science.

No point in giving facts about vaccines to you, already did and you just negate everything and start spewing nonsense bullshit like flat earth.

The link is obvious, both vaccines and "cultural enrichment" is dictated by the deep state via their puppets. Youre aware of one of them, and totally clueless about the other. I dont find it strange you couldnt find the link by yourself, as i said, youre not bright enough to escape the matrix as a whole, only the super obvious ones.

you did nothing just made a silly list with no sources but I'm not gonna go into this here.
You have no idea about what is a valid argument and what isnt thats why you are deeply disturbed.
politics is not science. Mathematics is not politics. Comprehend this fact. illuminati cant make 2+2 = 5

bc sons of bitches leftist scum are afraid of real resistance so they try to portray weak resistance as extreme, thinking that this tactic would make them replace strong resistance with impotent resistance, their preferred tactic believing that this would somehow magically stop the inevitable -traitorous scum being hanged. Yet it is gonna come to this, don't worry. First people talk, then when their own existence is in danger will start acting. Or we'll all perish as European civilization.

I always find it amusing some people use behavior from hundreds of years ago to apply to the modern day. You should know being a white boy from SA (I assume you're white based on another comment).

Virtually every country of worth got what they got by taking it via means which today are uncivilized, it was the way of the world back then. Its almost like comparing the actions of someone when they were 5 to when they are 25.

Pretending Africa/India would be fucked if the British had got there is hilarious, we have to put out flyers for many of these people (even today) telling them not to rape women and not shit in the streets when they come over here.

There's only so many excuses you can make.

People just jelly cos they got rooted and speak our language
If it was not the Brits, it would have been someone else, probably a lot worse.

Maybe you would have preferred the Russian's, Chinese, Muslims there instead.

It's not really amusing, considering there are loads of other examples of things happening nowadays which are being reflected from times gone past. I'm sure I don't need to elaborate but feminism, racism and the list goes on.

See, actions of a person that did certain things at age 5 and then 25 have no real relevance. (To a certain degree that is.)

We're talking about a nation as a whole;

Now people's actions individually speak for themselves, if they are not educated, or at least lack fundamental societal skills which are now used in what we call "Modern times." that's something to look at.

You need to look at it from a holistic point of view.

A Nations actions will change the way the world will see said Nation for many years to come.

I agreed with the whole pillaging, way of life, if they didn't do it to gain the advantage then hey ho, those were the times.

Yeah, I remember reading about Tony Blair in my school's ancient history books. He truly was just a regular war criminal. A product of his time. Churchill starving millions of Indians to death? Man, that was even before the Egyptians.

Certainly we shouldn't judge entire countries* for their past behaviour. But this is exactly what you've been doing for as long as you've been here.

You have to judge large groups (with key features) of people because my country has gotten retarded in who it lets in, so it the only way. Enemies are already here.

What's the alternative?

Be the guy like you turns a blind eye because he's more concerned with inconveniencing Muslims and is happy with dozens of hundreds of people dying for that?

At best people like Trump are suggesting inconveniencing a small demographic of people to save lives, I'll take that over the people who would rather more people keep dying.

When a country is more concerned with inconveniencing a minority (and allowing it to keep doing the things which help make these terrorists a reality) than saving the lives of their indigenous, some seriously dark forces have been and continue to remain at work.

And in 2018 when you're seeing this shit on the news every month (like in years past) and time after time you're noticing repeatable, definable trait, you might want share some of the blame cos its your outrage that the west should get tough or smart is what's now allowing this to happen.

All that's really doing is, making people vote to the right because they've realized their leaders don't give a shit about them.
And nobody should want this more than muslims in general becuae they burden some of the blame, we're always being told everyone in islam is equal, now all of a sudden its #nothingtodowithislam.

I guarantee you the #1 reason trump and brexit won was because people were pissed off with the immigration policies in their country more than ANY other issue.

The problem with liberals is they think statistics is all that matters in terrorist attacks. If you were in a country under constant terror attacks you would understand why people are terrified even if there is a very low likelihood of them actually being targeted.

That's funny. Supposedly, there's a lot of hate and violence against whites, especially farmers, in South Africa. I've seen a thread where liberals downplay the seriousness of this simply due to the numbers compared to the rest of the world.

Even Stephen the white devil had to bail from SA.
He used to rifle hunt blacks for sport like his dad and granddad but now he is preaching love and acceptance to all from the uk.
I wanna drive him to the brink, until he picks up that good ol rifle again

Stephen, we need you, more than ever
The old you, that zealot murderer, the passion you brought to the game, not this pissy baby
The man that put the white race first
Cracka hate crimes are so low tv has to make up hypothetical ones
Massah coma back

I find that you refuted nothing. Not the wiki, not the easing talk of sa politicians that anyone can find on youtube, or demonstrated that the burn marks on that guy are from careless havanna cigar smoking and not from a blow torch because for my eyes they look awfully consistent with the story he told.
That article is nicely sourced, refute man.

I know you lived there so I welcome your perspective. And you should know I recently talked in person with a south african black guy that also wasn't keen on that little hellhole you left. I played many chess games with a black guy from there some years ago. Also I'm a big buddy of yours. So SA isnt that far from dre. It is almost my hood with that many personal connections. I could be wrong here, this is not science it is politics. Show me how though.

I don't think I've ever called South Africa a hell hole, my leaving of the country was purely for travel perspective as well as career/business. I still, often at that, go back to visit etc, however I wouldn't see myself living over there again.

Politically, yes the country is broken and I do hope there is a massive swing to get things back in the right direction. It might take a few more generations to get things fixed, however we can only hope.

(Like in most countries cases from a political point of view that is.)

Yeah but I live in ZA, it's not an anecdote when it's from someone actually lives there, you can ask me information about how it is to actually live here, right now.

But yes a lot of people do leave ZA, but it's not because it's a hell hole. Generally some people cannot handle the thought of being a victim of crime, which I totally understand, or they leave to earn more money, or white people with no education can't get decent work, or they just like to travel.

Literally no one in SA is scared of racially motivated attacks. We are scared of crime though, but it's 100% economically related.

It's just an agenda that is pushed, by both sides, to sow discontent. The white right activists want outside help, i.e. start a race war, the black side wants the black public to consider the whites the bad guys and ignore the politicians currently in charge.

As for considering seriousness. Everyone considers that the farm murders are serious. What gets scoffed at is calling it a genocide.

I would say maybe very few. I literally met someone where I work that left exactly for that reason (but he also mentioned a burglary of his neighbor). The picture you painted seems reasonable, politicians think exactly the same whatever the country.
I would like to add that in case of race it is a very dangerous agenda. There is something particularly dark when politicians start to speak about inborn differences like race. Especially in an African country.

You forget that places like Cape Town now are on a brink of a water shortage and a complete wipe-out due to the lack of governmental plans and estimation growth of the population in relation to water needed etc.

It's the same as the electricity crisis that is still stricken there.

So having a government who in all honesty has a lack of education regarding caring for the country as a whole, you can't blame the people who are/wanting to leave to look for a better life for themselves and their families.

You can add the variables of crime rate / lack of education etc but let's be honest that's just sugar coating a lot of the shit going down especially if you're non-black for lack of a better wording.

South Africa is turning in to the next Rhodesia and we all know what happened there.

On the bright side, places like Cape Town are starting to thrive from a cultural point of view and a lot of people are reinvesting their efforts instead of bailing to greener pastures.

Yes, it's not as bad as the media and most people make it out to be, however if you have the ability to live elsewhere and do better, why not?

This is at least the 3rd time in my lifetime that we have had water restrictions, tbh with the aquifers and and desalination plants hopefully next month, things should be OK. With regards to planning, We have actually known about the problem for years, but the local government has been struggling to get funding. In that way its probably good that this has happened, because finally new infrastructure will be built. Although the large amount of people moving to Cape Town has been a cause, to be honest the rainfall has just sucked.

It might just be like this from now on, but the desalination plants should be enough to supplement it.

I don't know what complete wipe out means, but all government and emergency services will continue to have water. Electricity hasn't been a problem here since 2015, and more and more power is being added to the grid, so it most likely will not happen again.

I think the government is inept, but I don't really think highly of the government in other countries either. Bureaucracy hold up happens everywhere.

SA turning into Zimbabwe -> I disagree, its not comparable in anyway, SA is too large and too diversified with powerful internal and external influences over the direction of it's economy.

I have the ability to live elsewhere, and I have. But I would rather live here where it's sunny by the beach than a tiny shared house in London. You don't actually need to travel to another country to "do better". There are high paying jobs in the cities, and if not, you can just do international work. Well at least in my profession.

This is at least the 3rd time in my lifetime that we have had water restrictions, tbh with the aquifers and and desalination plants hopefully next month, things should be OK. With regards to planning, We have actually known about the problem for years, but the local government has been struggling to get funding. In that way its probably good that this has happened, because finally new infrastructure will be built. Although the large amount of people moving to Cape Town has been a cause, to be honest the rainfall has just sucked.

I don't know where abouts in Cape Town you lived but 3 times in the span of how many years?

From about 1996 to about 2010 we've had at least 10 counts of water restrictions, especially in the Stellenbosch / Paarl area. Not heavy and not as bad as it is right now.

You can take in to account that the last 3 years is a record for long term drought, it's the worst Cape Town has ever seen and I've been there all my life.

Regarding the the funding for desalination plants, there are been numerous massive amounts of money given to SA over the years to improve infrastructure but we all know what happens to large sums like that.

Now that it's gotten this bad, the outside help from different investors and countries will make a difference because they can use that as a sustainable means to profit in South Africa, so inevitably it HAD to get this bad before anyone saw an investment opportunity.

Yes, Cape Town has become the new Joburg regarding the whole money situation so it's natural to see a flip like that.

SA turning into Zimbabwe -> I disagree, its not comparable in anyway, SA is too large and too diversified with powerful internal and external influences over the direction of it's economy.

Did you forget that Zim was known as the breadbasket of Africa? in line with other neighbouring countries like Botswana and Namibia?

They also had powerful internal and external influences of the direction of it's economy, namely from USA/China and look at the collapses there.

BEE is also still getting out of hand there, especially for the Farmers who are now being told that it needs to be given up to black ownership within 5 to 10 years. So it's somewhat turning in to the likes of what happened when Mugabe took over Zim.

^ Yeah it might not get AS bad, but it's still pretty damn bad and don't get me wrong, I'm not slating SA, I hope for the love of the country it gets better and I'm 100% confident it will due to the ANC now officially and finally being outnumbered by the people who are finally seeing that they are no good for the country.

So the next election will hopefully see a massive shift.

Jobs and business opportunities will always be there but not everyone has the ability to do that. So it's swings and roundabouts with staying.

Can't see a pure H'White anglo-saxon like Jamerio getting attacked by one of his fellows- the entire premise of this thread is disingenuous. Only people who have anything to fear shouldn't be in the country anyway =] if you know what I mean

far right extremism is the result from years of sweeping multiculturalism failures under the rug. there's a lot of unaddressed frustration when it comes to it that gets channeled on the way of extremism.

not all cultures are on the same page, openly talking about integration issues is not racist (depending on how sane you are in approaching these issues).

I too read BBC for my far left news, as well as the jacobinmag as well as othjer anarchist & communist news sources. They criticize them neoliberals real good. I despite some other lefties like the NYT and the Guardian, who despite propagating the correct SJW kultural marxist propaganda sometimes fall short of advocating a class-based revolution and sometimes even speak positively about capitalist economics. I can't have that in my far left news, that's not what the far left means. Good thing the BBC would never do that.

yeah if i was jamerio i'd probably leave the uk tbh, artificially high costs for everything ranging from food to rent to clothes to internet, outrageously high taxes, cctv cameras everywhere, useless police (as expected), more regulation and bureaucracy in the economy than new zealand. porn and hate speech are the new pet issues of every busy body in westminster.

try prague if you want to live in a city, it's probably way more affordable compared to anywhere in england.