Am I allowed to answer?
(Romans 8:18) For I consider that the sufferings of the present time do not amount to anything in comparison with the glory that is going to be revealed in us.
It means the future in the Kingdom will be worth any suffering we do in this present system...even to the extent of death.
Jesus told us it was coming...that it has now taken two thousand years so far is beside the point...we are on Jehovah's timetable...
(Habakkuk 2:3) For the vision is yet for its appointed time, And it is rushing toward its end, and it will not lie. Even if it should delay, keep in expectation of it! For it will without fail come true. It will not be late!

"Which shall be revealed in us"
That is a great statement......For the Truth shall set you free,
and it is within us......Simply put, God lives within you as you, and once discovered the Truth is revealed and experienced...... The only thing
that prevents one from experiencing this is our Ego......Our attachments
to this world keep the Ego as solid as a brick.....Once the Ego is let go and it dissolves, the light of Christ Consciousness is revealed......The Absolute (Christ Consciousness) is real, all else is an illusion.

When Jesus died on the cross He did so to forgive our sin if we but believe in Him. When He arose from the dead and was again alive He abolished the old law (God's Law) and replaced it with the Law of Love. Jesus with his resurrection He has revealed the old flesh is gone and we are now new creatures for all who now see the glory of His love.

6-23-2017 You have quoted half a sentence taken out of context. Romans consists of long explanations, repeated, emphasizing that sins don't count any more. The only thing a Christian has to do is go to heaven.

Not true. Sins do 'count' The process of repentance is not a simple or painless one.

Jewels Vern

Chapter and verse, please. I stand on Romans 10:9&10.

Linda Joy

Personal experience.

Jewels Vern

So you are your own god? I prefer to follow the bible. I used to be my own god, and that didn't work worth a damn.

pugwashjw65

What is ' forgive our sins"
It is the proper understanding of this that confuses people...
If Jehovah God ' forgave' our sins,and death still remains, how loving is that...?
So really, sin is death...and a loving God Jehovah is removing death from us...if we are obedient.
Jesus PAID the price for it, with his sacrifice.

Jewels Vern

Sin, singular, is the absence of spirit. Adam had a spirit but it died and so he was unable to bequeath a spirit to his offspring. That is why everybody is born in sin, not because Mommy and Daddy did the big nasty. That is why a savior had to die in our place and make it possible to create a new spirit for us. Sins, plural, are mistakes, such as throwing a dart and missing the bullseye. Christians are baptised into Christ's death, and dead bodies don't sin, so sins are not an issue for Christians. There is no more forgiveness. Either you believe in Jesus and are saved or you don't believe and are lost. Read a chapter of Proverbs every day. Proverbs has 31 chapters so you can keep your place by just looking at a calendar. There is no religion or nothing in Proverbs and you don't have to believe anything. Just read every day. When you are comfortable with that, then read the bible from Romans to 2 Thessalonians over and over until you start to remember what it says. That is the part that applies to Christians. You will notice that most of the religious crap you hear from random preachers isn't in there at all. It is made up.

Linda Joy

"there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not" (Ecclesiastes 7:20) and that "if we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us" (1 John 1:8).
What is sin? James said, "To him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin" (James 4:17). John described sin as "all unrighteousness" (1 John 5:17) and "the transgression of the law" (1 John 3:4).

Linda Joy

Luke 16:"15 And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.
16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.
17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail."

Linda Joy

2nd Corinthians chapter 7 all of it. But most especially:
"9 Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing.
10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death."
17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail."

Ezekiel 18 all of it.
Isaiah chapter 1.
don't deceive yourself. Sin counts and repentance is necessary to reconcile ourselves back with God!

Jewels Vern

Linda, nothing in the old testament refers to Christians. Nothing Jesus said refers to Christians. It was a secret, as specified in Ephesians 3:5. The entire book of Romans explains over and over that it is believing that counts. "Repent" was the advice of John The Baptizer to Jews. Nothing to do with Christians or gentiles.

This can be summed up simply by the phrase: To die is gain (for the believer).
Believers have all rewards credited to them upon salvation but may have some of the rewards taken away based on the lives we lived. This is what the Judgement seat of Christ is about. No matter how many rewards we forefit by our choices, we still get the great gain of God Himself. Then we will be conformed to the very likeness of Christ and we will be freed from the sin nature that has held back our potential.

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