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I think that they aren't stealing, but more sealing Bankai.
And that's deffinetly a porblem, because such Captains as Mayuri, Komamura, Byakuya and Hitsugaya mostly fight with their Bankais and that's might be a big battle-changer in the upcoming Arc.

And I agree that it's interesting how we couldn't see this VandenReich's leader using anything to attack and kill those Arrancars... It might be he is so damn fast with his Quincy powers that we couldn't see it?)

I still hope that these new enemies aren't simply Quincies as it's more logical for them to be Hybrids at least the strongest ones as for them to be able to fight on par with Ichi... he is totally in another league from anyone going according to his development.

I think that they aren't stealing, but more sealing Bankai.
And that's deffinetly a porblem, because such Captains as Mayuri, Komamura, Byakuya and Hitsugaya mostly fight with their Bankais and that's might be a big battle-changer in the upcoming Arc.

And I agree that it's interesting how we couldn't see this VandenReich's leader using anything to attack and kill those Arrancars... It might be he is so damn fast with his Quincy powers that we couldn't see it?)

I still hope that these new enemies aren't simply Quincies as it's more logical for them to be Hybrids at least the strongest ones as for them to be able to fight on par with Ichi... he is totally in another league from anyone going according to his development.

But, from what i bellieve, Quincies power limit relies mostly on the reiatsu each body can control, becouse they drawn their power from the surroundings... Remember Ishida's fight with Mayury? If it wasn't for the energy Ishida collected from the buildings and everything else surrounding them he would shurley lost, but he managed to defeat a captain... If he could defeat a camptain using his bankai, why cant this guys stand on the same ground and fight equally aggainst them?

I think that they aren't stealing, but more sealing Bankai.
And that's deffinetly a porblem, because such Captains as Mayuri, Komamura, Byakuya and Hitsugaya mostly fight with their Bankais and that's might be a big battle-changer in the upcoming Arc.

Stealing was mentioned in the last chapter. I looked through different translations and they all read Stealing. I could remember "sealing' being used few chapters back. Sealing does make more sense. The top-tier shinigami without bankai are easier to defeat, if the opponent is strong.

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And I agree that it's interesting how we couldn't see this VandenReich's leader using anything to attack and kill those Arrancars... It might be he is so damn fast with his Quincy powers that we couldn't see it?)

I still hope that these new enemies aren't simply Quincies as it's more logical for them to be Hybrids at least the strongest ones as for them to be able to fight on par with Ichi... he is totally in another league from anyone going according to his development.

Seconded. Hopefully, we are going to see more than just Quincies. These could be the Quincies who lost against shinigami and survived. Having gained new powers, they decided to take revenge.

da_ni
When Ishida fought Mayuri he used secret tool to boost his power and after that he got so-called Final Quincy Form, but after the fight he totally lost all of his power, hence I don't think we should take such a tool in account.

thorn
Agreed. I hope we'll get to see some explanation on some of their moves in the upcomin chapters. I actually liked the way the used to go in and out SS. Ivan also used it. As for me their Transportation method looks the best for now. Maybe they are some sort of a hybrid of Quincy and Hollow, otherwise I don't see how they can fight against transendent Ichi and godly Yama.

da_ni
It wasn't his normal Quincy power.
He got such an incredible ability to recieve spiritual energy from surroundings only because he used a move that ca be used only once, because after its usage you loose all your power and you can't fight. In normal surcamstances Ishida would have lost with his normal abilities to Shikai Mayuri and Shikai Mayuri is practically nothing with current power levels.

guys,I just noticed that in this chapter the full name of sasakibe was revealed. Chojiro Tadaoki Sasakibe. but why tadaoki? have the shinigami 3 names instead of 2? Yamamoto has got a 3rd name as well,that is Shigekuni. maybe that's a detail of the oldest shinigamis...

I'd say he is destroying the stairs... as did he on the throne. yet,we can't be sure if he made them himself,and then crushed them to create new ones...

Either way, from the looks of it, this man has mastered the reiatsu control Uryuu could only temporarily obtain by sacrificing his Quincy powers many... many chapters ago. The drawing for the creation/destruction of the stairs and throne is the same as it was here: http://www.mangachapter.net/1193/bleach/125-6.html
To obtain that kind of power, he probably is indeed some sort of hybrid [As mentioned above...]~

Re: Bleach 486 Discussion

nooooo,I forgot this part http://www.mangareader.net/94-606-15...apter-152.html I though sasakibe hadn't ever fight because he didn't want to risk but here... he was really owned! I hope he did that on purpose,because he didn't want to fight. but did yamamoto allow that?

Re: Bleach 486 Discussion

ok,that's why I felt I had already seen that. no problem then,that's a quincy abilites .
however,we can't be sure that buckbeard is using reiatsu nor spirit particles,and we don't even know where that place is,it may be between 2 worlds as well