It's funny how scared people are about return getting nerfed into something that's not a super easy win.

See cowards will say no to a 1 week test arena that gives same rewards as folrart but is return free simply because the facts of return being super OP will show up.

Well fine with me if it's banned for 4 weeks. Playerbase will actually increase with return banned, but probably that's not alteil's goal. Logress once mentioned he wants a low playerbase, maybe he hasn't changed his mind since then.

Return is only easy-win against files that depend on having one tank for a bunch of support units that make it downright broken once that combo gets locked in place. Stuff like Kaldrao+Lapierre was (potentially still is) absurd, and the only reason you don't see it everywhere is that you might as well concede 25% of your matches if you don't respect returns and other forms of removal.

Returns and removal SSs exist precisely so that you don't get a free pass on setting up your level 3 snowball of doom. Accept it.

DeeGee wrote:Return is only easy-win against files that depend on having one tank for a bunch of support units that make it downright broken once that combo gets locked in place. Stuff like Kaldrao+Lapierre was (potentially still is) absurd, and the only reason you don't see it everywhere is that you might as well concede 25% of your matches if you don't respect returns and other forms of removal.

Returns and removal SSs exist precisely so that you don't get a free pass on setting up your level 3 snowball of doom. Accept it.

Yes, DG makes a great point. Folrart Guardian is indeed a lvl 3 unit. While I'm at it, let's list a few more lvl 3 tanks that "Return" bounces: Sea Claw, Thorned Battle Diva, Lumira, Inzaghi. All of these lvl 3 tanks get costantly "Return"ed and it's the support units behind them that get attacked. DEFINITELY NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.