Council in waste fees move at North Yorkshire recycling centres

FLY-TIPPING in North Yorkshire may temporarily increase if new fees are introduced at the region’s recycling centres, council bosses have admitted.

North Yorkshire County Council – which has to cut £77 million from its budget between 2015 and 2019 – is proposing to allow contractors which run its waste sites to charge for disposing of soil, rubble and plasterboard from April, saying this would save the authority up to £330,000 a year.

The council’s executive has been recommended to approve this when it meets next week, provided it reaches an agreement with the operators involved.

If it does not, arrangements will be made which would mean residents no longer being able to dispose some or all of these materials at North Yorkshire recycling sites.

In a report, Ian Fielding, the authority’s assistant director of waste and countryside services, said options in a consultation on the issue included introducing charges for soil and rubble at some larger centres, with other sites not accepting this waste.

There were 1,126 responses to the consultation, with 83 per cent saying centres should still take these materials and 56 per cent agreeing that a charge should be levied at all sites.

“While opinion is not strongly in favour of charging for soil and rubble, people want household waste recycling centres to accept this material and, if charges are to be introduced, would prefer this to be put in place across all centres,” it said.

“The key points raised are that some people believe any restriction or charge will lead to increased flytipping, this will in turn reduce savings or increase costs, and soil or rubble will be placed in waste bins.”

Mr Fielding’s report said Harrogate Borough Council, on behalf of district councils in the York and North Yorkshire Waste Partnership, and 11 parish and town councils had also raised the fly-tipping issue.

It said: “Feedback from other authorities who have implemented charges for similar waste suggests that while there might be a slight increase after the initial introduction of charging, this will decline over time, having a minimal impact on projected savings.”

It said if recycling centres no longer accept soil and rubble, contractors may seek compensation from the council for any costs incurred in enforcing this, but operators had indicated support for charges being introduced.

Comments

AnotherPointofView
8:10am Wed 29 Jan 14

I've said many times before that if you make the disposal of waste more difficult then the result will lead to more fly-tipping. If you have a commercial vehicle then you cannot go to a tip/recycling centre if you don't have a waste carriers licence. Once at the tip it costs a lot of money to dispose of waste. (I am aware of the voucher scheme for vans and cars with trailers of York's tip on James Street)

Fly tipping is a blight on our countryside. It costs the council FAR more to tidy up the laybys and hedgerows than it would if it made access to the tips easier.

Fly tipping is wrong but if you make it difficult to dispose of waste then that is what you get.

I've said many times before that if you make the disposal of waste more difficult then the result will lead to more fly-tipping. If you have a commercial vehicle then you cannot go to a tip/recycling centre if you don't have a waste carriers licence. Once at the tip it costs a lot of money to dispose of waste. (I am aware of the voucher scheme for vans and cars with trailers of York's tip on James Street)
Fly tipping is a blight on our countryside. It costs the council FAR more to tidy up the laybys and hedgerows than it would if it made access to the tips easier.
Fly tipping is wrong but if you make it difficult to dispose of waste then that is what you get.AnotherPointofView

I've said many times before that if you make the disposal of waste more difficult then the result will lead to more fly-tipping. If you have a commercial vehicle then you cannot go to a tip/recycling centre if you don't have a waste carriers licence. Once at the tip it costs a lot of money to dispose of waste. (I am aware of the voucher scheme for vans and cars with trailers of York's tip on James Street)

Fly tipping is a blight on our countryside. It costs the council FAR more to tidy up the laybys and hedgerows than it would if it made access to the tips easier.

Fly tipping is wrong but if you make it difficult to dispose of waste then that is what you get.

Score: 10

again
8:46am Wed 29 Jan 14

York's Hazel Court already levies a charge for brick rubble, gas bottles asbestos and plasterboard. Other stuff is still free but I would not bet on that staying the same!

York's Hazel Court already levies a charge for brick rubble, gas bottles asbestos and plasterboard. Other stuff is still free but I would not bet on that staying the same!again

York's Hazel Court already levies a charge for brick rubble, gas bottles asbestos and plasterboard. Other stuff is still free but I would not bet on that staying the same!

Score: 5

tomdobson
10:33am Thu 30 Jan 14

"If you have a commercial vehicle then you cannot go to a tip/recycling centre if you don't have a waste carriers licence."

Even with a waste carriers licence you are still not allowed to use the councils recycling centres. They are for household waste only.

A waste carriers licence only costs £150ish for 3 years.
If you have a commercial vehicle of any sort and are transporting any waste it is illegal to do so without a waste carriers licence.

"If you have a commercial vehicle then you cannot go to a tip/recycling centre if you don't have a waste carriers licence."
Even with a waste carriers licence you are still not allowed to use the councils recycling centres. They are for household waste only.
A waste carriers licence only costs £150ish for 3 years.
If you have a commercial vehicle of any sort and are transporting any waste it is illegal to do so without a waste carriers licence.tomdobson

"If you have a commercial vehicle then you cannot go to a tip/recycling centre if you don't have a waste carriers licence."

Even with a waste carriers licence you are still not allowed to use the councils recycling centres. They are for household waste only.

A waste carriers licence only costs £150ish for 3 years.
If you have a commercial vehicle of any sort and are transporting any waste it is illegal to do so without a waste carriers licence.

Score: 1

AnotherPointofView
6:35pm Thu 30 Jan 14

tomdobson wrote…

"If you have a commercial vehicle then you cannot go to a tip/recycling centre if you don't have a waste carriers licence."

Even with a waste carriers licence you are still not allowed to use the councils recycling centres. They are for household waste only.

A waste carriers licence only costs £150ish for 3 years.
If you have a commercial vehicle of any sort and are transporting any waste it is illegal to do so without a waste carriers licence.

My point was that if the council make it difficult/impossible or expensive to take waste to a recycling centre then people are going to find other ways to dispose of waste.

Of course it is wrong to fly tip, but that is what (some) people will do. It is a blight on our countryside. The council have to go and collect it anyway from laybys or verges or under hedgerows, which makes recovery far more expensive than letting people dispose of waste at the tip.

[quote][p][bold]tomdobson[/bold] wrote:
"If you have a commercial vehicle then you cannot go to a tip/recycling centre if you don't have a waste carriers licence."
Even with a waste carriers licence you are still not allowed to use the councils recycling centres. They are for household waste only.
A waste carriers licence only costs £150ish for 3 years.
If you have a commercial vehicle of any sort and are transporting any waste it is illegal to do so without a waste carriers licence.[/p][/quote]My point was that if the council make it difficult/impossible or expensive to take waste to a recycling centre then people are going to find other ways to dispose of waste.
Of course it is wrong to fly tip, but that is what (some) people will do. It is a blight on our countryside. The council have to go and collect it anyway from laybys or verges or under hedgerows, which makes recovery far more expensive than letting people dispose of waste at the tip.AnotherPointofView

tomdobson wrote…

"If you have a commercial vehicle then you cannot go to a tip/recycling centre if you don't have a waste carriers licence."

Even with a waste carriers licence you are still not allowed to use the councils recycling centres. They are for household waste only.

A waste carriers licence only costs £150ish for 3 years.
If you have a commercial vehicle of any sort and are transporting any waste it is illegal to do so without a waste carriers licence.

My point was that if the council make it difficult/impossible or expensive to take waste to a recycling centre then people are going to find other ways to dispose of waste.

Of course it is wrong to fly tip, but that is what (some) people will do. It is a blight on our countryside. The council have to go and collect it anyway from laybys or verges or under hedgerows, which makes recovery far more expensive than letting people dispose of waste at the tip.

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