FB-23 concept confirmed

From what I have read the main reason for the YF-23 losing to the YF-22 was price, even though the yf-23 was closer to production than the yf-22

also on the point of stealth, it would seam that the yf-23/yb-23 would have an advantage against the fb-22 when it comes to its heat signature.

from a top view you can see that the engines exhaust is released before the rear of the craft, this would allow the heat to be spread by the air
passing by the plane, and would help to keep the rear of the plane cooler than the rear of a fb-22. this would lower the possibility of it being shot
down by heat tracking sams.

an earlier comment mentioned that the yf-23 lacked thrust vectoring, if you look at the image of a yf-23 from the top you can see it would be nearly
impossible to include thrust vectoring in this design. and honestly I would rather have a lower chance of being tracked by a sam than having slightly
better maneuverability.

Yea um just to point out that the Su-47 is a multrole aircraft so Mother Russia does have us beat there in the Su-47 vs F-22 battle a long time ago,
plus the Su-47's odd wing design gives it better turning then a F-22.

Originally posted by COLDWING-1
Yea um just to point out that the Su-47 is a multrole aircraft so Mother Russia does have us beat there in the Su-47 vs F-22 battle a long time ago,
plus the Su-47's odd wing design gives it better turning then a F-22.

I'm all for laughing at the F-22's guts, but the fact is that Su-47 is not intended to be produced at all. It was only casually offered to see if
there were any buyers, no production plans were even made. The Su-47 vs. F-22 argument has taken place here many times. Verdict? Nobody really cares
anymore. It's irrelevant.

If you really want to bring up something interesting, start looking at PAK-FA, which both the Mikoyan 1.44 and Su-47 were intended to test possible
designs for.

I am debating weather this post is worth replying to. Ok fine, but just because I am bored.

You know zero facts about the SU-47.
You know Zero facts about the F-22. The
The 47 is not in production and likely never will be.
Dogfights happen at 400 knots. At that speed, both aircraft have the same turning rate due to Gs, and similar T/W ratios. Dogfighting is up to the
pilot completely, I laugh at people who think that the SU series can pull off all of its flippety flippies at high speed without turning the pilot
into a red pancake.

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