Is there a more insipid midfield in the division? On current form, if van den Berg and Aluko are good enough to get a game on merit, we're in real trouble. Kelly has lost it and Barrow is no longer a threat and appears to have lost confidence in front of goal.

Westwood52 wrote:I actually thought we were pretty awful again today;but TBF slightly better than those run of games against the relegation zone teams.Walking out of the ground I heard someone say we did not deserve to lose-you have to be joking-the Bees in fact missed half a dozen clear cut chances-this is going to kill them if they want to go up.

IMHO:

Vito 5: Couple of good saves but I think he had a chance to clear for their goal.Credit to him for coming over to the fans after the game.Gunter 5: It was not all bad; he just needs to grow some-soft as s**t.Omar 5: Was at his absolute physical limit-hence his hammy went-hopefully he will grow from this.Moore 6: I think in his mind-he is on his way.Ilori 5: More comfortable than McShane on the ball-but made a few bad mistakes in his decision making.Joey 2: Why is he playing ?He is just too slow and unathletic. How on earth did he get a new contract ?Evans 2: Almost as bad as Joey;too slow and unathletic. He was convinced it was handball late on. It was right in front of me, but everything happened so fast.Kelly 6: Some terrible passes, and often overpowered; but kept going-unlucky with the free kick.Alukho 1: Stealing a living-whats wrong with him ?Did absolutely nothing.Bovard 7: Give him his due-worked his socks off-but probably should have scored. Cannot hold the ball up when its in the air-unlike Kermit at his best.Mo 6: He loses heart, far too easily.

Tyler: Did OK-looked more comfortable than OmarKermit: Hes gone-end of.Overweight and out of condition.Roy: Why no Macca ?-Roy is stealing a living.

Stam: The first evidence of division amongst the senior leadership team-He almost admitted after the game that the squad was inadequate; compared to most of the division. Joey should never be picked, I'd rather have Edwards (& Roy instead of Macca-really). Macca as bad as he is playing always gives you a chance.

Ref-I actually thought he was biased-in the 1st half-and I haver never thought that of any English Pro Ref before-he was a lot fairer 2nd half.

Yann was dreadful as mentioned but what on Earth was going on when Moore get sent to CF (ineptly) whilst Yann played CM (ineptly)?

Smacks of just making it up as we go along

One thing not mentioned was the fans were actually pretty supportive. No boos and fans and players clapped each other at the end. Slightly surprising but I think at least the effort the majority (ie not Aluko) put in was appreciated

Brentford fully deserved that. They were quick,incisive and skilful and should have been out of sight at one stage. Van Den Berg is a total liability and painfully slow. Kelly is a lightweight although he improved in the final quarter of the match and was unlucky with his free-kick.Gunter and Bod our best performers. Barrow and Aluko were woeful. We need more physicality in central midfield

Hound wrote:Yann was dreadful as mentioned but what on Earth was going on when Moore get sent to CF (ineptly) whilst Yann played CM (ineptly)?

Smacks of just making it up as we go along

One thing not mentioned was the fans were actually pretty supportive. No boos and fans and players clapped each other at the end. Slightly surprising but I think at least the effort the majority (ie not Aluko) put in was appreciated

Perhaps it was the placement of the mics but boos were relatively vociferous coming through iFollow, still not as loud as Brentford's cheering it has to be said.

I have already accepted relegation. Even if Stam is sacked who can turn that shower round? We were outplayed by a club who run on a fraction of our budget. I hope the players are as embarrassed as we are?

Jackson Corner wrote:I have already accepted relegation. Even if Stam is sacked who can turn that shower round? We were outplayed by a club who run on a fraction of our budget. I hope the players are as embarrassed as we are?

Hound wrote:Thing is, you watch the teams in the upper half of the division, and they are all clearly beatable. We actually looked more like getting points from today than we did Birmingham

Not that with the current set up I can see us beating anyone. Gourlay needs to do what is paid for and bin Stam I’m afraid.

That's what's especially disheartening to me about this season... the division is clearly weaker. There are no standout teams apart from Wolves, no other team could challenge Newcastle or Brighton of last season for top 2. This season should've at the very least seen us hovering around the top 6 with the players we have. Instead it's been at best an utter waste of time, and at worst the destruction of the club as we know it