I've been doing Dynamis for almost a year now and is 4/5 on BRD and was like zomg when will these pretty pants drop? its like even rarer than the BLM Hat and RDM Hat Seriously... its like holy moley drop already!!!

Yeh, Courtly Measure +8Chr/Mnd/Int -8Str/Vit/Dex/Agi when disengaged. Military Parade, +8Str/Vit/Dex/Agi -8Chr/Mnd/Int when engaged. Have them both to prove so.

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your songs get more powerful as you level up, so do the effects of +skill

at level 74 and 228 (capped) wind (232 capped sing) I get +65 ATT from a valor minuete 4 (+2)

storing my coral cannions in my MH, I use the same macro at 225 skill and get +55 ATT

so, doing some simple math I can see a mere +3 raised my song by +10 (or roughly +20%)

I do realize that songs don't get more powerful with every point, you have to push them past a certain point mark for them to "level up" thus 222 skill and 225 skill would both give me +55 ATT while 228 skill gives me +65...

regardless, if you're using CHR gear while singing party songs, you get +0. a no-brainer in my book.

Sadly to say, Minuet IV does not go above 61 (unless maybe you've meritted Minuet already and conveniently left that out). And in fact, songs do get more powerful with every point, though it seems to me like it is about 1/3 of a point for every skill point (after an initial base increase for each song). You can notice this only when your skills aren't capped and you level up, your minuet will tend to go up about 2-3 Atk points by the time you re-cap your skills. One of the better ways to enhance your song would be to use the appropriate Elemental Staff; those are believed to add 10% to their respective element, so the right staff with the right song (eg. Fire Staff for Minuet) then maybe that's where you're getting the 10% increase from.

Minuet IV withOUT the Cornette +1 (+2 to minuet) still only gives +56 Atk with the stats I listed above, so in most cases even the right instrument doesn't add much more; it does however make it more effective (ie. Elegy or Threnody) AND it makes the songs last a LOT longer. The only songs that I know of that an instrument will double the effect on are Paeon and Ballad (Gjallahorn for Ballad :x).

Also, unless I'm mistaken, all your skills as Bard cap at 225 at 75, not 74.

You're probably forgetting that the pants have +5 Str which could of added to the Attack "bonus," and Ive also even tested out the pants with +10 singing skill.

So I tested out Minuet IV with just my Cornette +2 equiped to get what just the attack boost was without any +skill. I made sure to minus the attack the +5 str gives you on the AF1 pants. For the +10 singing skill I equipped the Choral Cuffs and Demon helm. Turns out my Minuet was 2 attack points higher.

Then I just tested out the +10 singing skill and got the same +2 Attack with my Minuet IV.

In the end, the +3 Wind skill didnt affect my minuet at all.

Also, I made sure that only the tested gear was equiped so stats were affected.

Did the test about a month ago because another brd in my ls said Skill doesnt affect songs like minuet so the Minuet numbers are hard to remember, but Im sure that there was a +2 attack increase with the +10 Singing skill.