But that doesn't mean a woman can go outside, show no class or respect for herself, look desperate and tacky, and not expect to be stared at by so many guys.

I mention all this in an earlier post...which just about everyone seemed to ignored.

I actually went and dug through this thread to read your post because I was curious.

Dude. No one's complaining about a little staring in this thread.

Rape happens because a male is physically dominant over a females and abuses it. Rape is violence. Would you consider beating up a female to be excusable just because she shouted at you or "irritated" you?

If you find certain women to be desperate, that's fine. I find it ironic that you seem so disgusted by how desperate certain women act, when in reality guys can be the most desperate human beings alive.

Glad you understand how much of a turn off desperation is (to some lol).

Rape is the most desperate act ever. It's the lowest of the low. When you can't get a woman to be interested in you, you force yourself on her. It's despicable. Men are not even respecting themselves when committing the act. It's called taking advantage of and abusing the weak.

In my opinion, males and females should be allowed the right to act however they please and wear whatever they please. Even if a girl is wearing slutty clothes and acting like an annoying self centered desperate cunt if she did not ask for sex and was forced to submit to another person's will it is not acceptable. It should NEVER be acceptable and that is why there are laws against rape and countries who fail to understand that probably need to reevaluate their justice system.

STUPID MEN CONTROL YOUR LIBIDO AND FIND A WAY TO GET LAID ON A REGULAR BASIS and THEN maybe you wouldn't feel the urge to rape every single female in a mini skirt. This is pathetic.

yes it so pathetic me from indonesia and hear it from our mayor fauzi just making my ears hurt just because he is a man he not want if mans specially him for get blamed because of raped that so crazy and stupid, how can if a thief steal luxury motorcycle and who get blamed is that person who have a luxury motorcycle and said why using luxury motorcycle that really so stupid question because every people have different fashion type.
me a man too but hear it from sissy man like him making me want angry, if man wrong just said it, dont be sissy then said the girls dress who get blamed, I defend female because they are not wrong in this situation
maybe the man in our country who dirty mind but not all......

<3 I'm sure it's not all males. Your mayor has poor judgement and your people should do something about it.

tortoiseshellwrote:
STUPID MEN CONTROL YOUR LIBIDO AND FIND A WAY TO GET LAID ON A REGULAR BASIS and THEN maybe you wouldn't feel the urge to rape every single female in a mini skirt. This is pathetic.

STUPID WOMEN CONTROL YOUR VANITY AND COVER UP ONCE IN YOUR DAMN LIFE AND THEN may be every other man in your country won't have the desire to gape at your slutty body hard enough for you to hate it. FIND A WAY TO GET A DECENT MAN AND MAY BE YOU WOULDN'T BE SO DESPERATE FOR EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION, WHORE.

tortoiseshellwrote:
STUPID MEN CONTROL YOUR LIBIDO AND FIND A WAY TO GET LAID ON A REGULAR BASIS and THEN maybe you wouldn't feel the urge to rape every single female in a mini skirt. This is pathetic.

STUPID WOMEN CONTROL YOUR VANITY AND COVER UP ONCE IN YOUR DAMN LIFE AND THEN may be every other man in your country won't have the desire to gape at your slutty body hard enough for you to hate it. FIND A WAY TO GET A DECENT MAN AND MAY BE YOU WOULDN'T BE SO DESPERATE FOR EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION, WHORE.

:/ I just had to, man.

Are you playing the devil's advocate for the sake of it? Lol alright...

I'm not here to judge how other women live their lives. In fact, I don't have a problem with whores, prostitutes or any person that sells their body for money. I don't care about sad attention whores, their love lives are pretty fucked up and they have problems of their own. But I have a problem with rape for the mere reason that it is violent and cruel and such behavior should not be tolerated in a civilized society.

tortoiseshellwrote:
STUPID MEN CONTROL YOUR LIBIDO AND FIND A WAY TO GET LAID ON A REGULAR BASIS and THEN maybe you wouldn't feel the urge to rape every single female in a mini skirt. This is pathetic.

STUPID WOMEN CONTROL YOUR VANITY AND COVER UP ONCE IN YOUR DAMN LIFE AND THEN may be every other man in your country won't have the desire to gape at your slutty body hard enough for you to hate it. FIND A WAY TO GET A DECENT MAN AND MAY BE YOU WOULDN'T BE SO DESPERATE FOR EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION, WHORE.

:/ I just had to, man.

Are you playing the devil's advocate for the sake of it? Lol alright...

I'm not here to judge how other women live their lives. In fact, I don't have a problem with whores, prostitutes or any person that sells their body for money. I don't care about sad attention whores, their love lives are pretty fucked up and they have problems of their own. But I have a problem with rape for the mere reason that it is violent and cruel and such behavior should not be tolerated in a civilized society.

:/ I only feel a mix of pity and disappointment to women who degrade themselves, and I only nag them so much because I honestly don't think that anybody should belittle themselves so much, especially when they can seriously harm themselves (and have so many times) in the process. May be it's just sympathy. I know many girls like this, it pains me to see them suffering. I only have disgust towards rapists, they are as lowly as murderers. :/ but we're really getting off topic here.

tortoiseshellwrote:
STUPID MEN CONTROL YOUR LIBIDO AND FIND A WAY TO GET LAID ON A REGULAR BASIS and THEN maybe you wouldn't feel the urge to rape every single female in a mini skirt. This is pathetic.

STUPID WOMEN CONTROL YOUR VANITY AND COVER UP ONCE IN YOUR DAMN LIFE AND THEN may be every other man in your country won't have the desire to gape at your slutty body hard enough for you to hate it. FIND A WAY TO GET A DECENT MAN AND MAY BE YOU WOULDN'T BE SO DESPERATE FOR EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION, WHORE.

:/ I just had to, man.

Are you playing the devil's advocate for the sake of it? Lol alright...

I'm not here to judge how other women live their lives. In fact, I don't have a problem with whores, prostitutes or any person that sells their body for money. I don't care about sad attention whores, their love lives are pretty fucked up and they have problems of their own. But I have a problem with rape for the mere reason that it is violent and cruel and such behavior should not be tolerated in a civilized society.

:/ I only feel a mix of pity and disappointment to women who degrade themselves, and I only nag them so much because I honestly don't think that anybody should belittle themselves so much, especially when they can seriously harm themselves (and have so many times) in the process. May be it's just sympathy. I know many girls like this, it pains me to see them suffering. I only have disgust towards rapists, they are as lowly as murderers. :/ but we're really getting off topic here.

Meh like CR gives a shiat. Btw my mom can't cook.

Yeah I know how you feel. I have a couple of close friends who are... sort of like the people you mentioned. But not everyone is strong enough to respect themselves and as a friend the least I can do is not judge. And be there. I've stopped tryna "give advice" because it's useless.

tortoiseshellwrote:
STUPID MEN CONTROL YOUR LIBIDO AND FIND A WAY TO GET LAID ON A REGULAR BASIS and THEN maybe you wouldn't feel the urge to rape every single female in a mini skirt. This is pathetic.

STUPID WOMEN CONTROL YOUR VANITY AND COVER UP ONCE IN YOUR DAMN LIFE AND THEN may be every other man in your country won't have the desire to gape at your slutty body hard enough for you to hate it. FIND A WAY TO GET A DECENT MAN AND MAY BE YOU WOULDN'T BE SO DESPERATE FOR EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION, WHORE.

:/ I just had to, man.

Are you playing the devil's advocate for the sake of it? Lol alright...

I'm not here to judge how other women live their lives. In fact, I don't have a problem with whores, prostitutes or any person that sells their body for money. I don't care about sad attention whores, their love lives are pretty fucked up and they have problems of their own. But I have a problem with rape for the mere reason that it is violent and cruel and such behavior should not be tolerated in a civilized society.

:/ I only feel a mix of pity and disappointment to women who degrade themselves, and I only nag them so much because I honestly don't think that anybody should belittle themselves so much, especially when they can seriously harm themselves (and have so many times) in the process. May be it's just sympathy. I know many girls like this, it pains me to see them suffering. I only have disgust towards rapists, they are as lowly as murderers. :/ but we're really getting off topic here.

Meh like CR gives a shiat. Btw my mom can't cook.

Yeah I know how you feel. I have a couple of close friends who are... sort of like the people you mentioned. But not everyone is strong enough to respect themselves and as a friend the least I can do is not judge. And be there. I've stopped tryna "give advice" because it's useless.

I've gotten bashed for it, but fuck it I never get this preachy. My mom doesn't cook either?

It feels useless, but I honestly just want to at least try. I don't know, I think if I at least put some effort the message will eventually get through and provoke change, or at least make the problem obvious. I don't see how change for the better will ever happen if we treat the problem like a lost cause. I don't like to judge, but I also don't like to see inane suffering, and it's in cases like these where people are physically and mentally harmed that I think judgement is perfectly okay if it's for positive change.

tortoiseshellwrote:
STUPID MEN CONTROL YOUR LIBIDO AND FIND A WAY TO GET LAID ON A REGULAR BASIS and THEN maybe you wouldn't feel the urge to rape every single female in a mini skirt. This is pathetic.

STUPID WOMEN CONTROL YOUR VANITY AND COVER UP ONCE IN YOUR DAMN LIFE AND THEN may be every other man in your country won't have the desire to gape at your slutty body hard enough for you to hate it. FIND A WAY TO GET A DECENT MAN AND MAY BE YOU WOULDN'T BE SO DESPERATE FOR EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION, WHORE.

:/ I just had to, man.

Are you playing the devil's advocate for the sake of it? Lol alright...

I'm not here to judge how other women live their lives. In fact, I don't have a problem with whores, prostitutes or any person that sells their body for money. I don't care about sad attention whores, their love lives are pretty fucked up and they have problems of their own. But I have a problem with rape for the mere reason that it is violent and cruel and such behavior should not be tolerated in a civilized society.

:/ I only feel a mix of pity and disappointment to women who degrade themselves, and I only nag them so much because I honestly don't think that anybody should belittle themselves so much, especially when they can seriously harm themselves (and have so many times) in the process. May be it's just sympathy. I know many girls like this, it pains me to see them suffering. I only have disgust towards rapists, they are as lowly as murderers. :/ but we're really getting off topic here.

Meh like CR gives a shiat. Btw my mom can't cook.

Yeah I know how you feel. I have a couple of close friends who are... sort of like the people you mentioned. But not everyone is strong enough to respect themselves and as a friend the least I can do is not judge. And be there. I've stopped tryna "give advice" because it's useless.

I've gotten bashed for it, but fuck it I never get this preachy. My mom doesn't cook either?

It feels useless, but I honestly just want to at least try. I don't know, I think if I at least put some effort the message will eventually get through and provoke change, or at least make the problem obvious. I don't see how change for the better will ever happen if we treat the problem like a lost cause. I don't like to judge, but I also don't like to see inane suffering, and it's in cases like these where people are physically and mentally harmed that I think judgement is perfectly okay if it's for positive change.

No the horrible thing is my mom cooks.

Seriously there are people out there that you can't get through to. Everyone sees the world differently. Some people are so emotionally tortured that they feel the need to sleep around just to feel better about themselves and then hate themselves afterward. Repeatedly. There are guys like that out there as well. You can't save the world. But I would like to think that as people grow older they see their own mistakes and learn from them.

OK common if a girl is wearing a mini skirt and a low tank top in public shes clearly wants something....... especially if she is wearing it in a shady part of town or in a pub or bar with lots of drunk males that are young..... at that point shes just asking for it. that being said women should wear what they want ..... but they should know when and where certain articles of clothing should be worn.

This is like saying that if a man were to walk around without a shirt he's looking for sex.

Based on my own experience there are three reasons men take their shirts off:
1. It's too hot.
2. It's easier to move in some cases.
3. To show off.
In a way I think women wear short skirts for similar reasons. That being said there are circumstances wherein men can take of their shirts and there are circumstances wherein women can wear short skirts.

That's like saying men who walk around topless want to show off their physique. There are probably some extreme cases but in general, "Women are asking to get raped by wearing short skirts" is an untrue statement.

Honestly when you are wearing a mini skirt you are basically asking for most guys attention and for the small percentage that are creeps well they likely wont be able to control themselves. I honestly don't get why girls wear them aside from maybe trying to get guys to look at them. Unless there is a solid factual link between a rise in crimes due to mini skirts I don't see why it should be banned.