The only thing worse than watching people talk and post pictures of this rubbish is the way they're gonna act afterwards like "hell yeah, we survived this godly storm, lets all smile cos we love each other and hug n shit" - fuck you, I hope ya dog got ate by a shark you motherfucker!!

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i think it's neat how you guys think outside the box.

It's cool that you think thoughts about stuff, and then share them with others electronically

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That's fucking hilarious as well as the vid "POPEYES IS CLOSED!!!"

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approaching 100billion in losses and damages.
why can't the cause be a wildly swinging pendulum? our weather is getting more and more extreme in both directions. scientists have been telling us for years that we are reaching tipping point. i wouldnt be surprised if we have an extremely cold year following this extremely hot one.

well they can't predict how many people it would kill. i could be wrong. they could have tried to get out of debt by getting people into debt. it's hit NY and i believe it is quite a rich state. people who don't have insurance will have to buy everything that needs replacing or fixing.

You're either a troll or a fucking retard....

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lol ceited hasn't posted in a minute, I reckon he's currently floating somewhere in the north Atlantic on a raft hastily constructed from flash drives and empty ciroc bottles and bound together with USB cables...

A homeless woman made a spooky Halloween’s eve discovery on the Upper Green: bones from a centuries-old human body unearthed by a giant oak tree toppled by Superstorm Sandy.The woman, Katie Carbo, made the discovery around 3:15 p.m. near the corner of College and Chapel streets. Visible among the roots of the tree is the back of skull, upside down, with its mouth open (pictured). It is still connected to a spine and rib cage.
Carbo called police, who confirmed the discovery. Detectives headed to the scene to investigate.
Sgt. Anthony Zona said the police do not suspect foul play. He noted that that part of the Green long ago served as a burial ground.
“That body has probably been there a long, long time,” Zona said.
“Twenty-four years on the job,” he added, “and different things just happen all the time.”

At 6:55 p.m., Alfredo Camargo arrived on scene from the state medical examiner’s office. His title: “Death investigator.” (Seriously.)The police had set up a bright spotlight so Camargo could work.
He zipped up his Tyvek suit, put on white rubber gloves, then climbed into the hole in the tree to examine the bones.
He then came out and pronounced: “It’s going to take us a while.”
He grabbed a hand-held rake, a sifter, and trowel, and brushes. He predicted the job will take a couple of hours—if it doesn’t rain.

Camargo got to work digging out leaves from the hole.

Camargo passed bones out to Gary Aronsen (pictured), a Yale anthropologist, who put them into individual, labeled plastic bags.Sgt. Sam Brown grabbed a tarp to protect the death investigator as he worked.How The Discovery Happened

Carbo may have been the second person to find the remains, but the first to report it to authorities.

The tree fell at around 6 p.m. Monday near the peak of Superstorm Sandy. A stone marker at the foot of the tree identifies it as the “Lincoln Oak,” planted in 1909 on the 100th anniversary of President Abraham Lincoln’s birth.

A local artist, Silas Finch (at left in photo), saw it fall. He started rooting around—for hours—in the root ball upended along with the tree looking for old coins. He even came back Tuesday morning to dig some more.At one point he found what he thought was a human bone. It was about a foot long, Finch said. He called his friend, a fellow artist and New Haven historian named Robert Greenberg.
“No way there could be human bones. It’s an animal bone.” Finch recalled Greenberg telling him. “Lo and behold, it’s definitely not.”

Then Carbo (pictured), a Green regular who participated in Occupy New Haven protests earlier this year, spotted bones in the tree as she looked at it Tuesday afternoon.She remembered thinking, “Wait a minute, that doesn’t look like a regular rock.” It turned out to be a skull. She touched it, a piece came off, and she could tell it was bone, she said.
“I took a stick and unearthed it more,” Carbo said. “It was just crazy. I just couldn’t believe it. I knew it was a cemetery here.”

Soon a rib cage, a spinal column, and a skull were visible, complete with open mouth and a full set of teeth.A crowd gathered. Sgt. Anthony Zona said detectives had been notified and were on their way.
“This is someone’s family remains. It should be given a proper burial,” Carbo said.

Ribs and spinal vertebrae.

Silas Finch was back at the scene, recalling his initial discovery.“It was really creepy,” he said with a shiver. “I was literally down in that hole directly in front of that skull.”
Carbo said she wasn’t creeped out. “I feel like it was just someone’s earthly shell. Their soul is long gone from here.”

At 5:50 p.m., as a crowd gathered near the skull and a TV news crew showed up, Curtis T (at left in photo) passed on his way to a homeless shelter. “You think it’s the hurricane?” he said about the tree’s uprooting. “I think a dead man trying to tell a tale.”

At 6:30 p.m. police showed up with a large spotlight used to illuminate crime scenes. They flooded the root with light, attracting a growing crowd. The cops set up a perimeter with “crime scene—do not cross” tape.

Greenberg (at center in photo) opened a binder of historical documents and announced a hypothesis: The skeleton could belong to a victim of small pox, interred in what amounted to a “mass burial site.”As evidence, he cited a passage in the New Haven Green chapter of the book, “Historical Sketches of New Haven.” The book describes how some notables, beginning with Martha Townsend, were buried in the walled-off cemetery behind the Center Church on the Green. Others were buried in the rest of the Upper Green, apparently with great density.
“Sometimes, at the dead of night, apart from the others, the victims of small pox were fearfully hid here,” the book reads. “The ground was filled with graves between the Church and College Street; sixteen bodies having ben found within sixteen square feet.”
The last bodies were buried there in the 1700s, Greenberg said. Then, in 1821, the stones were moved to the Grove Street Cemetery, and the ground was raised to level off the Green. The bodies remained behind.
Cops planned to guard the bones tonight on the graveyard shift.

At 7:45 p.m., rain began to fall, thwarting the excavation. The death investigator threw up a white tent to protect the work.

i've always wanted to be buried under a tree. i reckon i should be cremated before being buried.

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--How many NYC rats survived hurricane Sandy?

This question has been asked in the wake of Sandy's flooding of lower and east Manhattan. See, for example, articles in Huffington Post Green, Forbes, National Geographic, Business Insider, Mother Nature Network and NYMag. The short answer is: some rats drowned, some survived. The complicated question, how many drowned and how many survived, is probably impossible to answer. But we can speculate using the information and knowledge we have in our possession. But things we really need to know, we don't - information is just not available (and some of it never will be). How many rats are in NYC? Nobody knows. Nobody seems to even be attempting to estimate.

Beware of the myth that there is one rat per person. That is a very old myth. It started in 1909 when W.R.Boelter published a study of rats in England. He asked farmers (but never bothered to look in the cities) to estimate how many rats they have in their fields. From that informal survey, Boelter came up with an average of one rat per acre (yes, of agricultural land). At that time, there were 40 million cultivated acres in England. From that, he estimated the total population of rats on agricultural land to be about 40 million. Completely coincidentally, England in 1909 also had a population of 40 million people. So, the 1:1 ratio stuck. And it has been repeated for more than a century, by media, by scientists, by United Nations, by pest control companies, by health departments, and apparently everyone else.

In 1949, Dave Davis did a systematic study of rats, by trapping and capturing them, and estimated that rat population in New York City was only about 250,000. Not even close to 8 million. An aside - I have an indirect personal connection to Davis. For a while he was a professor in the Department of Zoology at NCSU, that is, in my own department. At the time he was ready to retire, in the 1970s, he was actively working on daily and seasonal rhythms in various animals. He used to work with Curt Richter before, at Johns Hopkins, and Curt is one of the pioneers of chronobiology. David sent some woodchucks on a ship from Philadelphia to Australia. While on the ship, rats kept EST time, but quickly re-entrained to the Australian local time once they arrived there and were exposed to ambient light. Although the field was still very young, Davis' work made the rest of the department aware of it (they did not think it was Biorrhythms silliness, as many assumed at the time), so they were interested in hiring a replacement who was doing something similar. So they hired this bright, young lad from Texas in his spot - two Science papers already published and he took only 3.5 years to get both MS and PhD. The new faculty's name was Herbert Underwood. Two decades later I joined the Underwood lab. The rest is history.

Anyway, back to rat population. Estimates vary wildly, to as high as 32 million. Nobody really knows. New York City is old. It was built and rebuilt. New buildings were built on top of the old ones. There are old, buried tunnels, rooms, chambers, now not accessible to humans but perfectly accessible to rats. Gradually, the city dug out more and more sewers, more and more various pipes, more subways and other tunnels. Thus more places for rats to nest. We gradually built comfortable homes for more and more rats. The rat population is not evenly distributed either. They tend to be where poor people live, and where the restaurants are. That's where there is food. And not all rats go to the surface. Rats are pretty loyal to the place of birth, and rarely venture more than about 60 feet from it, throughout their lives. If displaced, they can find their way home from as far as 4 miles, but for a foot-long animal, that is an extremely long distance. If they can get food down under, e.g., from subway passengers throwing out uneaten food onto the tracks (which they do), rats never need to go up to the surface. They never get captured and counted in surface surveys.

Can rats swim? Yes, rats are strong swimmers. They can even dive for a little while - if a domesticated rat can be trained to dive (and enjoy it), I assume that a wild rat can do it when its life is threatened: The thing is, swimming in a water maze in the lab, or on the surface of a body of water is one thing. Swimming upward, against the powerful stream of water streaming downward is a completely different thing. They may be strong swimmers, but they are not Johnny Weissmullers.

There are many ways up to the surface, but they all go up. And if the water was mainly gushing into the tunnels from above, from the streets as Sandy was flooding, they would have had to swim or dive up narrow pipes, essentially vertically up against the water. No way. Those guys drowned. To go up to the surface, rats need to know the way to the surface. Rats know their own territory very well. But rats that never go to the surface do not know how to get there. They may still want to instinctually go up, but they don't know the way so would have to get lucky to actually find the stairs and then fight their way up against the gushing water. Rats already on the surface would probably be fine. The water and wind from Battery would carry them north until they reach the dry ground. They can certainly stay on the surface. Salty water is denser than fresh water, so they would find it even easier to stay on the surface, though their eyes may not like all of the salt.

What was flooded, when and how? Right now, we do not know exactly where, when and how the water entered the subway tunnels, sewers, etc. MTA site does not provide much information. New York Times does not either - they are concerned with information useful to people, e.g., when will the subway open again, not where, when and how the subway initially flooded. Most likely the water came from above, from the flooded streets after sea water rose high at the Battery and the East side. This is important. It is easier for rats to float on the surface of water rising from below, than to fight against the water falling from above. Also, most of Manhattan (and rest of NYC) did not flood at all. Most of the rats probably survived just fine where they were.

Who lived, who died? So, from above, we can speculate that many rats survived. Some were never affected by flooding. Some were on the surface already and managed to run or swim to the higher ground. Some knew their way out to the surface and made it there. Rats are smart and crafty - if they can find a way to hide or go out, they will. But some rats certainly drowned. Those are the rats that live deep inside holes we never know about, let alone visit. Rats that never go up to the surface. Rats that had the misfortune to have to try to escape essentially vertically up against strong gushing water.

There is a rule of thumb - if you see a rat on the surface during the daylight time, this means that the underground population is enormous. And I see them every month I go up to New York. When the rats are crowded, dominant rats take the best spots. If the population forages on the surface, dominant rats forage during the night. Subdominant (or submissive) rats are temporally displaced to the daytime shift. This is important. If Sandy started to flood the tunnels during the day (and nobody knows, or makes public, this information as the subway was already closed to people by then), it will be the non-dominant rats who are on the surface, and thus more likely to survive. If the flooding started at night, it will be dominant rats on the surface, floating away into safety. Dominant rats are more likely to be able to relocate and survive in other places where they have to compete with locals. Non-dominant rats would have a much harder time finding a new home. So, my guess is that most of the rats survived. But quite a large number of rats drowned - depending on exact location, depth, how much they know how to get to the surface at all, their exact route to the surface, and their status in the social hierarchy.

nothing to do with haarp, its nex rad, chem trails.. a big difference! like i said

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if weather weapons exist, why wouldn't they be used against north korea, china or iran first?

if it was chem trails then it looks like the machines exist only in the US and perhaps they haven't yet mastered how to get it going to those countries you've mentioned. maybe that was the plan all along but it went wrong and it backfired on them.

lol ceited hasn't posted in a minute, I reckon he's currently floating somewhere in the north Atlantic on a raft hastily constructed from flash drives and empty ciroc bottles and bound together with USB cables...

Skamp, hasn't posted since Sunday, a day before Sandy hit. Wonder what he's doing.

The lights at Goldman Sachs stay on through hurricane: Electricity as the new symbol of Wall Street greed
By S. Mitra Kalita — 5 hours ago
During the Great Recession, Goldman Sachs’ corporate jets were linked to a culture of excess. Hurricane Sandy has lowered the bar for public outrage: Now it’s directed at the investment bank’s generators.

As Wall Street lost power and plunged into darkness, the lights stayed on at Goldman’s signature tower at 200 West Street. Charlie Walk took this photo and posted it on Instagram (used with permission):

if it was chem trails then it looks like the machines exist only in the US and perhaps they haven't yet mastered how to get it going to those countries you've mentioned. maybe that was the plan all along but it went wrong and it backfired on them.

us machinery was only used to tone the severity of the hurricane down,

this hurricane was natural, it wasnt guided, haarp/chemtrails do not control / guide hurricanes.

Aviators of the 1-150th Assault Helicopter Battalion, New Jersey National Guard, look for displaced residents along the coastline of Seaside Heights Oct. 30, in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy. (Video by Master Sgt. Mark C. Olsen/108th WG/PA

shit looks alot worse than, what media outside of america is reporting.. this is a disaster of epic proportions.. thats only going to get worse as time progress'

wonder if floortilecloud is one of the lucky people (only 300k people have electricity in jersey)

Someone just sent this message to me ----> "Regarding Sandy; I am no mathematical genius, nor even proficient in advanced hydraulics, but a quick basic run of the numbers and you can find this - if flood height of Sandy was 10 feet, one square mile has 27,878,400 square feet, with 10 cubic feet of water on each one of those square feet weighing 620lbs each, would be a sudden footprint of 17,284,608,000 lbs. What I am unable to figure accurately enough to post is the psi.

My point being there has to be an enormous amount of hidden fracturing, and there has to be a potential source of unknown stress to underground structures. Not trying to be fearful, I believe it does merit an amount of attention"

http://CoastGuardNews.com NEW YORK -- A Coast Guard Air Station Cape Cod, Mass., helicopter crew conducted an over-flight of New Jersey and New York coast and waterways following Hurricane Sandy, Oct. 30, 2012. The crew observed extensive land and property damages during the flight.
U.S. Coast Guard video by Public Affairs Detachment New York.

Msnbc's Thomas Roberts takes a look at aerial shots of massive bus lines and snarled traffic in New York City as the subway remains flooded in lower Manhattan, where CNBC's Scott Cohn reports.
By Miguel Llanos, NBC News
The promise of limited restoration of transit services lured hundreds of thousands back into the nation's largest city Thursday, but the commute was nightmarish even by New York City's standards: Seemingly endless lines at bus stops, backups at the city's bridges and tunnels stretched for miles, and many people simply gave up after an hour or two of frustration.

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Motorists sit in heavy traffic while crossing the Robert F. Kennedy Triboro Bridge Thursday in the Queens borough of New York.

The scene was "pure mayhem," Lanisha Harris, who was trying to get to work in Manhattan from Canarsie, Brooklyn, told NBCNewYork.com in the aftermath of Superstorm Sandy.
The order that all vehicles entering Manhattan must have at least three occupants appeared to cut down on traffic in the city, but enforcement of the directive caused problems elsewhere.
At the approach to the Lincoln Tunnel, traffic from New Jersey was restricted to a single lane and cars with fewer than three people were being diverted, causing a backup that jammed the state's northern highways.
"Safety is our paramount concern, not convenience," Mayor Michael Bloomberg said Thursday in defending his order.
In downtown Brooklyn, "easily a thousand people, possibly more" were in line at the Barclay's Center Thursday morning waiting for public buses, NBC 4 New York reporter Kai Simonsen said from his helicopter viewpoint.

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That led some people to try to hitchhike their way into Manhattan, with drivers eager to pick them up to make the three-person-per-car quota.
"Some folks offered me a ride," said Melanie Bower, 30, who lives in Fort Greene. "I was touched by their kindness at first. But then I realized they just needed me so they could have three in their car.”
Bower walked into Manhattan instead, and then caught a bus uptown.
Related: Photoblog of the commuter chaos
Wednesday evening's commute out of the city was bad as well, leading Gov. Andrew Cuomo to declare that subway, bus and commuter rail services would be free Thursday and Friday.

TODAY's Natalie Morales reports from Hoboken, N.J., where chilling new images capture communities utterly destroyed; meanwhile, thousands still remain trapped in the region without water, power or heat.
After suffering the worst disaster in its 108-year-old history, subway services resumed at 6 a.m. ET Thursday on more than a dozen lines, supplemented by three bus shuttles.
“There will be no subway service between 34th St. in Midtown and Downtown Brooklyn,” the MTA website said.
Across the city, the scene remained chaotic:
LaGuardia Airport was re-opening but several hundred flights at the region's airports were canceled Thursday.
Taxis started pulling vehicles off the road as the fuel crunch deepened, with the vast majority of storm-hit gas stations in the greater New York area now out of gasoline or power to run pumps. Open stations have lines with several hundred cars as well as individuals toting jugs to refuel generators.
Liberty and Ellis islands sustained serious damage, a source at the National Park Service told NBCNewYork.com. "The infrastructure is shot," the source said, adding that the docks and grounds were in "bad shape." While the Statue of Liberty and the museum at its base were OK, the source said, it would likely be "quite a while" before the islands reopen.
Downtown Manhattan was still mostly an urban landscape of shuttered bodegas and boarded-up restaurants, where people roamed in search of food, power and a hot shower.
The Staten Island Railway service was still suspended due to “extensive damage” there.
In Jersey City, across the Hudson River from New York, drivers negotiated intersections without the aid of traffic lights. Lines formed outside pharmacies, while people piled sodden mattresses and furniture on sidewalks. The city has issued a curfew on people as well as a driving ban from 7 p.m. to 7 a.m.
Power was still out to 4.5 million homes and businesses in 14 states -- and 3.2 million of those were in New Jersey and New York.
Five massive U.S. military C-5s and 12 C-17s were flying 61 electrical repair vehicles from California to New York on Thursday to help stressed line crews.
The remnants of Sandy, meanwhile, dissipated over Canada. But the storm system, which killed at least 63 people in the U.S., could still dump yet more snow in the Appalachians.
“The last of its effects are winding down along the Appalachian Mountains,” the National Weather Service said, adding that several more inches of snow were possible in some areas of West Virginia and Maryland. “The cleanup can begin.”

In the wake of the superstorm, people are banding together across New York City and New Jersey, offering power, food and even Halloween fun to their neighbors who have been devastated by wind and floods. NBC's Jenna Bush Hager reports.
On New York's Long Island, where 90 percent of homes were still without power, bulldozers scooped sand off streets and tow trucks hauled away destroyed cars, while residents tried to find a way to their homes to restart their lives.
Joanne and Richard Kalb used a rowboat to reach their home in Mastic Beach, filled with 3 feet of water, the Associated Press reported. Her husband, exasperated by the futility of their effort, posted a sign on a telephone pole, asking drivers to slow down: "Slow please no wake."
In New Jersey, President Barack Obama joined Republican Gov. Chris Christie on Wednesday to tour the ravaged coast and promised to get the cleanup moving.
"We are here for you," Obama said in Brigantine, N.J. "We are not going to tolerate red tape. We are not going to tolerate bureaucracy."
The president resumed campaigning Thursday after a three-day hiatus due to the storm.

Most of Sandy's flood waters on New York City's streets have receded, but much of the water beneath the streets remains trapped. TODAY's Savannah Guthrie met with Roger Less of the Army Corps of Engineers to talk about the task of drying out the underground.
Full coverage of Sandy from NBC News
Signs of the good life that had defined wealthy shorefront enclaves like Bayhead and Mantoloking lay scattered and broken: $3,000 barbecue grills buried beneath the sand and hot tubs cracked and filled with seawater, the Associated Press reported.
Nearly all the homes were seriously damaged, and many had entirely disappeared.
"This," said Harry Typaldos, who owns the Grenville Inn in Mantoloking, "I just can't comprehend."
Most of New Jersey's mass transit systems remained shut down, leaving hundreds of thousands of commuters braving clogged highways and quarter-mile lines at gas stations.
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Superstorm Sandy made landfall Monday evening on a destructive and deadly path across the Northeast.

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Atlantic City's casinos remained closed.
Christie postponed Halloween until Monday, saying trick-or-treating wasn't safe in towns with flooded and darkened streets, fallen trees and downed power lines.
Farther north in Hoboken, just across the Hudson River from Manhattan, nearly 20,000 residents remained stranded in their homes, amid accusations that officials have been slow to deliver food and water.
One man blew up an air mattress and floated to City Hall, demanding to know why supplies hadn't gotten out, the Associated Press reported.
At least one-fourth of the city's residents are flooded and 90 percent are without power.
The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.