Rick Warren's son's suicide and church doctrine - Think Atheist2018-03-20T04:31:44Zhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/forum/topics/rick-warren-s-son-s-suicide-and-church-doctrine?commentId=1982180%3AComment%3A1291509&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=no** Goest thou for the book de…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-04-09:1982180:Comment:12915092013-04-09T03:34:18.440Zmax stirnerhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/RickPovero480
<p><strong>** Goest thou for the book deal -- don't forget movie rights</strong></p>
<p>Dear "Pastor" Rick,</p>
<p>When is the book detailing your ordeal with a severely depressed son going to hit the Xian-Fox talk circuit? GriefLit is a big genre. And "God" never overlooks an opportunity to bring material blessings to his big supporters.<br></br><br></br>"Having our son was a blessing... and our hearts would be inconsolable without our steadfast belief in God's power -- which however inscrutable can…</p>
<p><strong>** Goest thou for the book deal -- don't forget movie rights</strong></p>
<p>Dear "Pastor" Rick,</p>
<p>When is the book detailing your ordeal with a severely depressed son going to hit the Xian-Fox talk circuit? GriefLit is a big genre. And "God" never overlooks an opportunity to bring material blessings to his big supporters.<br/><br/>"Having our son was a blessing... and our hearts would be inconsolable without our steadfast belief in God's power -- which however inscrutable can be turned into cash."<br/><br/>It's not over until the fat xian ladies pay for autographed copies.</p> In the news, Rick Warren (or…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-04-08:1982180:Comment:12910292013-04-08T11:08:06.416ZRon Humphreyhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/RonHumphrey
<p>In the news, Rick Warren (or his family) asked for prayers. I am puzzled as to exactly what prayer they wanted. </p>
<p>For all here saying that suicide is the unforgivable sin, there is one other--nonbelief. You can be the worse murderer, child molester, rapist, and repent and go to heaven. But non-belief, you will burn in hell.</p>
<p>In the news, Rick Warren (or his family) asked for prayers. I am puzzled as to exactly what prayer they wanted. </p>
<p>For all here saying that suicide is the unforgivable sin, there is one other--nonbelief. You can be the worse murderer, child molester, rapist, and repent and go to heaven. But non-belief, you will burn in hell.</p> Richmond, to answer your ques…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-04-08:1982180:Comment:12909482013-04-08T08:56:43.972ZSagacious Hawkhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/SagaciousHawk
<p>Richmond, to answer your question: Even if that Christian believes that suicide is a terrible sin, they will still be prone to believe that their loved one is in heaven because ultimately they recognize that they can't know the mind of their god nor pronounce his judgement. Essentially, they think God is more merciful than to condemn a person for a singular act, and continue to hold on to hope that they will see their loved one again one day. Like all things in religion, it's the personal…</p>
<p>Richmond, to answer your question: Even if that Christian believes that suicide is a terrible sin, they will still be prone to believe that their loved one is in heaven because ultimately they recognize that they can't know the mind of their god nor pronounce his judgement. Essentially, they think God is more merciful than to condemn a person for a singular act, and continue to hold on to hope that they will see their loved one again one day. Like all things in religion, it's the personal and emotional connections that cause one's beliefs to change.</p> I think there is no way on th…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-04-08:1982180:Comment:12909422013-04-08T07:41:34.345ZAlan Chttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/AlanCragg
<p>I think there is no way on this earth that Warren will ever 'snap out' of his delusion, he is in WAY too deep. If he is a snake oil entrepreneur then he will continue with business as usual, finding a way to milk every last cent out of the tragedy, if he is a 'true believer' his 'faith' will keep him believing.</p>
<p>I was wondering if the mental illness was hereditary and if embryonic research could help cure/eradicate the condition...</p>
<p>I think there is no way on this earth that Warren will ever 'snap out' of his delusion, he is in WAY too deep. If he is a snake oil entrepreneur then he will continue with business as usual, finding a way to milk every last cent out of the tragedy, if he is a 'true believer' his 'faith' will keep him believing.</p>
<p>I was wondering if the mental illness was hereditary and if embryonic research could help cure/eradicate the condition...</p> “Life is a gift... Life is a…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-04-08:1982180:Comment:12909412013-04-08T07:40:27.335ZkOrsanhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/kayaorsan
<blockquote><p>“Life is a gift...<br/> Life is a test...<br/>
Life is temporary assignment....”</p>
<p>― Rick Warren, The Purpose Driven Life</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Looks like your son flunked, asshole.</p>
<blockquote><p>“Life is a gift...<br/> Life is a test...<br/>
Life is temporary assignment....”</p>
<p>― Rick Warren, The Purpose Driven Life</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Looks like your son flunked, asshole.</p> Parasites like him are the on…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-04-08:1982180:Comment:12907742013-04-08T07:38:06.989ZkOrsanhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/kayaorsan
<p>Parasites like him are the ones who make life hell for so many others like gays and women, by propagating homophobia and other nonsense that ultimately leads to so many people struggling with bullying and depression that some of them even kill themselves. Every chance they get, they only spew more lies and bigotry to make life hell for others. Such people don't grieve for parents who lost their gay children to suicide, so he deserves no sympathy himself. Fuck him and fuck everything he…</p>
<p>Parasites like him are the ones who make life hell for so many others like gays and women, by propagating homophobia and other nonsense that ultimately leads to so many people struggling with bullying and depression that some of them even kill themselves. Every chance they get, they only spew more lies and bigotry to make life hell for others. Such people don't grieve for parents who lost their gay children to suicide, so he deserves no sympathy himself. Fuck him and fuck everything he stands for.</p>
<p></p> Well I don't think at a gut l…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-04-08:1982180:Comment:12909332013-04-08T05:38:03.110ZSteveInCOhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/SteveInCO
<p>Well I don't think at a gut level they really DO believe it or they'd celebrate at funerals and being told you had a terminal illness would be cause for cartwheels down the hall.</p>
<p>Well I don't think at a gut level they really DO believe it or they'd celebrate at funerals and being told you had a terminal illness would be cause for cartwheels down the hall.</p> In the Catholic church suicid…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-04-08:1982180:Comment:12909912013-04-08T02:47:06.334ZDoug Reardonhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/DougReardon
<p>In the Catholic church suicide IS the unforgivable sin.</p>
<p>In the Catholic church suicide IS the unforgivable sin.</p> Belle, there is an unforgivab…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-04-08:1982180:Comment:12906832013-04-08T01:40:05.485Z_Robert_http://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/RobertCampbell
<p>Belle, there is an unforgivable sin. I don't know if you believe in god or not, but if you do not, you are hell bound according to the christian faith.</p>
<p>Belle, there is an unforgivable sin. I don't know if you believe in god or not, but if you do not, you are hell bound according to the christian faith.</p> I'm just wondering if his kid…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-04-08:1982180:Comment:12908922013-04-08T01:05:52.890ZGregg R Thomashttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/GreggRThomas
<p>I'm just wondering if his kid had homosexual tendencies. Can you imagine the unrelenting torment that must have been.</p>
<p>I'm just wondering if his kid had homosexual tendencies. Can you imagine the unrelenting torment that must have been.</p>