quote:Tell me what people of any skin color/race who choose to come here Illegally know about Liberty and what we have gone through here as a society to embrace it?

I wouldn’t be so arrogant to think I know what others have been through. Why don’t you ask this question to some old-school Italian, Irish, and Russian familes who are sure to know a few illegals? They’ll gladly inform you I’m sure.

quote:Tell me what people of any skin color/race who choose to come here Illegally know about Liberty and what we have gone through here as a society to embrace it?

I wouldn’t be so arrogant to think I know what others have been through. Why don’t you ask this question to some old-school Italian, Irish, and Russian familes who are sure to know a few illegals? They’ll gladly inform you I’m sure.

Key word in your quote: "Old School"

We are on such different wavelengths, I don't know why I bother

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This caravan thing is an organized invading force that has declared illegal intent and as such is an army of war. Stop it with a measure of force fitting the force it brings. No shooting.

This is not the same as people privately sneaking across in small groups, it is an open declaration of threat, and an announcement to the world of defiance of US sovereignty. We need to stop this wave, easy enough, in a calm and civil fashion.

The U.S. is a sovereign nation and has the right to control its borders. President Trump is doing his job and the Democrats are throwing a fit yet again. Too bad.

The Democrats are desperate for the Latino vote, citizen or illegal alien. After losing middle-class Democrats because of their socialist positions the Democrats have become frantic to regain power.
The Democrats do not want a solution, they just want the issue.

President Trump offered the Democrats a solution for their “Dreamers” fiasco. The Democrats refused that and any other immigration reforms. Liberal activist judgers have mage it almost impossible for the U.S. to properly process immigrants. Fortunately, those judge’s rulings are about to be over turned by The Supreme Court.

The Democrats and Fake News claim that the people in the “caravan” are women and small children. The majority are young men as evidenced by the pictures and videos.

Many of the young men in the caravan are carrying the Guatemalan and Honduran flags. If they are so proud of their countries, why don’t they stay and fight?

The U.S. does not need unskilled labor that does not speak English. We need exactly what President Trump is calling for: a merit-based immigration system which is supported by the American People.

The Border Patrol in Texas alone has apprehended almost 800 Middle Eastern men in 2018. All but two dozen have already been deported.

quote:This caravan thing is an organized invading force that has declared illegal intent and as such is an army of war. Stop it with a measure of force fitting the force it brings. No shooting.

This is not the same as people privately sneaking across in small groups, it is an open declaration of threat, and an announcement to the world of defiance of US sovereignty. We need to stop this wave, easy enough, in a calm and civil fashion.

"in a calm and civil fashion"....

It has a "Declared Illegal intent and as such is an army of war"..."No shooting"?

Interesting. And just how is that to be accomplished?...If this "caravan" reaches the U.S. border with Mexico, troops of some sort will need to be present, either the National Guard or the Military. We won't be posting any type of force on the Mexican side. How can this possibly be non-confrontational?....

Mexico would almost have to be an active participant here, allowing them to get this far, their Gov't thinking..."Trump and his wall, hahahaha".....Well, sorry to say this will probably do a lot to strengthen the argument that a Wall is absolutely necessary. But, the leftists will be there with their signs claiming ALL of these people are fleeing abusive Gov'ts and want nothing more than an opportunity to escape poverty and a cruel regime. Funny how all of these extremely poor individuals have found the resources to walk how far? (Approx 1400 miles) with food, clothing, water, shelter being supplied by whom?

Just ask yourself, "I have the means, how much would it cost me to walk 1,400 miles"?

Build the wall!

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Calm and civil, you didn't like that either. This is a symbolic demonstration, testing the US. 7000 people is what, a couple Beacon Theaters? Not a big deal. Yes it is stacking up to be a drama - "the whole world is watching" this one, as is intended by the players. This is where the US could totally blow it by overreacting, or take a great opportunity to show the world how a civilized people manages a tricky situation.

quote:Many of the young men in the caravan are carrying the Guatemalan and Honduran flags. If they are so proud of their countries, why don’t they stay and fight?

You don’t understand why Central Americans would want to immigrate to the US? Yikes!

quote:The U.S. does not need unskilled labor that does not speak English. We need exactly what President Trump is calling for: a merit-based immigration system which is supported by the American People.

This opinion probably isn’t too popular with the red state farmers, and construction companies throughout the US.

quote:Many of the young men in the caravan are carrying the Guatemalan and Honduran flags. If they are so proud of their countries, why don’t they stay and fight?

You don’t understand why Central Americans would want to immigrate to the US? Yikes!

Why are they not waving U.S. Flags? According to your logic, they wish to emigrate here and work, take advantage of opportunity. On a World stage, would not more sympathy be garnered by showing a Love and respect for a Culture you are attempting to embrace?

NO!..They are proud of their homelands!...That is exactly why they are leaving.....

Hilarious

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Ok, I see your complaint, the "army of war" , thx. Meaning a declared organized intent . I guess it does sound inflammatory - used it to define it as opposed to individual border crossing , which is not a declared act of conflict, and clarify the nature of the force. This is a political action.

Nonviolent Civil Disobedience is considered a form of warfare, it is studied at West Point, you know that? It is harder to manage civil disobedience than armed conflict, as the cost in trust to a govt that cuts down unarmed people is heavier than physical losses. Look at the impact of a few deaths at Kent State - a crushing defeat for the armed retaliation.

quote:Funny how all of these extremely poor individuals have found the resources to walk how far? (Approx 1400 miles) with food, clothing, water, shelter being supplied by whom?

Because they can find the resources on this particular journey, then there must be plenty of resources and a safe environment 24/7/365? Surely you aren’t suggesting such a thing.

That, is exactly what I am suggesting.

We are not the solution to the 3rd world's problems.

How much of your paycheck are you willing to donate to this plight on a regular basis? Surely, one donation will not fix this. See, this is the left in a nutshell, an expectation that this issue needs to be addressed and that everyone here must share in that burden. To decline is to be Racist, there can be NO other reason.

I refuse. You however, can donate all you want.

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quote:Ok, I see your complaint, the "army of war" , thx. Meaning a declared organized intent . I guess it does sound inflammatory - used it to define it as opposed to individual border crossing , which is not a declared act of conflict, and clarify the nature of the force.

Nonviolent Civil Disobedience is considered a form of warfare, it is studied at West Point, you know that? It is harder to manage civil disobedience than armed conflict, as the cost in trust to a govt that cuts down unarmed people is heavier than physical losses. Look at the impact of a few deaths at Kent State - a crushing defeat for the armed retaliation.

Fair, thoughtful and appreciated, Thanks for expounding and enjoy the day.

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