Never Date A Woman Who Takes One Of These Prescription Drugs

A.V. Yader flies jets for cash, writes at Return Of Kings for pleasure, and dates American women for pain. He's a stone-cold realist, but one who manages to keep a smile on his face despite the insanity that surrounds him. He's well traveled and aspires to start a family and live a quiet life abroad someday.

One out of every four—that’s how many women in America are on some type of antidepressant. How many of the remaining 75 percent should be on meds, but aren’t for any number of reasons, is anyone’s guess. Judging by how crazy and delusional most women are nowadays, it’s probably a pretty sizable percentage. Especially for women under the age of 30.

What’s more: a recent study out of Canada reveals that pregnant women taking the most common form of antidepressants—Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors, or SSRIs—increase their risk of having a child born on the autism spectrum by 87 percent. Eighty-seven percent! To say that is completely ridiculous would be a massive understatement. One would like to think these women feel ashamed of themselves for producing an entire generation of little “Rain Mans,” but they’re most likely too drugged up feel anything at all—never mind shame.

It’s scary as hell out there, gentlemen. Even scarier is the fact that a lot of the women taking these drugs seem to have their acts together. I mean, we all expect the 250 pound piece of shit with the weird hair, Tumblr account, and see-through earlobes who breathes like a dehydrated Saint Bernard whenever she traverses a Golden Corral parking lot to be on antidepressants—it’s a given. She’s an unlovable loser who has no friends and no prospects. This article won’t focus on women like this at all because nobody wants to fuck them, talk about them, talk to them, look at them, or even think about them.

The sole focus of this article will be on the stealth losers: the women who are generally attractive, successful, and have everything that feminism says should make them happy, yet are miserable to the point that they have to pop pills like a high school kid pops zits just to stay sane.

If you haven’t dated a woman like this yet, then it’s only a matter of time before you stumble upon one. They’re very common, and it’s important as a single man entering 2016 to have—at a minimum—a rudimentary understanding of the crap these women are putting into their systems just to appear normal and make it through the day. But first, let’s start with a few target rich locations for gathering your intelligence.

The Obvious Choice: The Medicine Cabinet

When you’re at a woman’s place on your first or second visit, excuse yourself to the bathroom and take a look around her medicine cabinet. If you’re a pussy and you’re saying to yourself, “I would never disrespect someone’s privacy like that!” then you need to adjust your attitude. Women aren’t in the business of helping you, they’re in the business helping themselves.They’re not going to give you the answers. Crazy women don’t think they’re crazy, sluts don’t think they’re slutty, and losers don’t think they’re losing—it’s on you to figure all of that out on your own and act accordingly.

You’re never going to hear a woman say: “I would make a terrible girlfriend and an even worse wife or mother: you should avoid me like a fresh pile of dog shit because I’m going to make your life completely miserable if you get serious with me.” Candor is not in a woman’s best interests, so you should never expect it.

And this is why you should view snooping around as your privilege. If a woman has worked her way into your life in some capacity, then you owe it to yourself to find out absolutely everything you can about her. That means if the opportunity presents itself, you should always take a peak at her personal effects: phone, laptop, tablet, purse, closet—whatever. Nothing is off limits when it comes to your pursuit of the truth, and a woman’s medicine cabinet is no exception. It is your responsibility to find out who she really is as a person, not who she wants you to believe she is. If that means you have to play Sherlock Holmes, then so fucking be it.

Naturally, women aren’t going to be very pleased or impressed if they catch you playing amateur DEA agent. “Why don’t you trust me you fucking jerk?!” said the pill popping psycho who’s hellbent on keeping her issues a secret from you. Because unless her name is “Mom,” then her ass isn’t to be trusted, that’s why. On the rare occasions when I’ve been busted snooping around, and a woman has asked me why I don’t trust her, I’ve always answered nonchalantly with, “Because you’re not trustworthy,” while sporting a dismissive grin coupled with a zero-fucks-given shoulder shrug.

Women say they value honesty, so in this situation, I give it to them (what I’m really giving them is maximum drama). And surprisingly enough, despite being offended and losing their shit, they’ve never “dumped” for me for my actions. Sure, they huffed and puffed and said a bunch of nonsense, but they eventually calmed down and asked what they can do to earn my trust.

If you handle things properly, and can talk your way out of a jam using humor and playing to a woman’s emotions, then you don’t have anything to worry about. With that said: look in the bitch’s medicine cabinet and search for drugs. To hell with what she thinks of it and never apologize if you get caught.

Nightstands And Dresser Drawers

I’ve found just as many prescription bottles in nightstands as I have in medicine cabinets. A lot of these losers start popping pills before they take their morning piss; it’s the first thing they do when they wake up. So for convenience purposes, a woman might keep her drugs close to her bed. The best time to get down to business and start gathering your intel is when she’s taking a shower or cleaning up after sex.

Purses And Handbags

You’ll need a little bit of time to inspect these items—at least five to ten minutes—so make sure your girl is side-tracked or busy doing something when you go snooping around. A lot of women will keep a “universal” pill bottle in their purses. At first glance, it will appear to be an innocuous over-the-counter container for something like Ibuprofin or Midol. But contained within will be a miniature CVS with everything from heavy hitting pain killers and anti-psychotic meds to birth control pills or vitamins. You should also look for written Rx forms for refills in her wallet or stuffed in the various hidden pockets of her purse.

Glove Compartments And Center Consoles

You would be surprised by how many Ziploc baggies full of pills women keep hidden in their cars. Most women are scatter-brained (especially druggies), and as a consequence they will keep a small supply of meds stashed away in their cars as a back-up just in case they forget to take them at home.

If you’re out and about with a woman while she’s running some errands, simply wait in her car while she heads into a store, and then begin your investigation. Since these medications won’t be labeled in most cases, you’ll need to become familiar with what they look like.

Without further delay, here are ten common drugs women take that should be a huge red flag when it comes to dating them…

1. Cymbalta (Duloxetine)

Cymbalta was the number one prescribed antidepressant in 2014, and continues to be one of the most prescribed in America. It is used to treat depression, anxiety, and the biggest bullshit medical condition in history—fibromyalgia.

The pill itself is easy enough to spot, with the name “Lilly” prominently displayed in white lettering on a blue background. This name was most likely chosen to pay homage to the Hebrew demoness “Lilith”; which translated into English means “night hag,” or “monster of the night,” and is therefore a perfect description for the type of wacko bitch who ends up taking Cymbalta.

2. Lexapro (Escitalopram)

Out of all the antidepressants I’ve personally seen women take, Lexapro has been the most common. It is used to treat general anxiety and depression. The pill itself is small and rather unassuming in appearance: one side is marked with the letters “FL,” while the other contains the dosage information in milligrams.

I don’t know what “FL” means, but if I had to guess, I would say it most likely stands for “Fucked-up Life,” because that’s exactly the kind of life every woman taking Lexapro has. (In all seriousness, “FL stands for Forest Laboratories—the makers of Lexapro)

3. Prozac (Fluoxetine)

Another very popular choice among the batshit crazy ho-bags of America is Prozac. It is used to treat a myriad of afflictions ranging from depression and obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD), to bulimia and anorexia. The pills are very easy to spot: they are green and white with “Prozac” prominently displayed along with the corresponding milligram dosage (typically 20mg).

4. Xanax (Alprazolam)

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If a drug features the letter “X” multiple times, then you know it’s some pretty potent shit. Xanax is a sedative that is used to treat panic attacks and other anxiety related issues. Washing down “Zannies” with a nice tall glass of cheap pinot grigio is one of the modern American woman’s favorite pastimes, so keep your eyes peeled for the signature “Xanax bar” while conducting your snooping missions.

The pills, as you can see in the above photo, typically come in 1/4 sections that can be split-off if necessary, hence the term “bar.” In most cases, the pills are white with “Xanax” displayed on one side, and the dosage on the other. They are very distinctive and easy to identify.

5. Paxil (Paroxetine)

Paxil is another very common SSRI that is used to treat depression, anxiety, and OCD. The pills themselves are very easy to recognize: they are color coded by their milligram content, thus making it easy to judge just how crazy the bitch is at a glance, which is convenient. “Paxil” is also clearly marked on the tablet.

6. Zoloft (Sertraline)

A fan favorite amongst the mentally ill crowd, Zoloft is designed to treat OCD, PTSD, and every man’s favorite—Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder (PMDD). For the unfamiliar, PMDD is PMS on steroids. If you’ve ever dated a woman who turns into an insufferable asshole when she’s on her period, then just wait until you come across one with this PMDD nonsense. Per WebMD, here’s the list of things you get to look forward to when you encounter such a woman:

That’s sounds like lot of bullshit to put up with just for some pussy, doesn’t it? I thought so, too. So whenever you see that little sky blue, light green, or off-white colored pill with “Zoloft” displayed on it—run.

7. Effexor XR (Venlafaxine)

Effexor, as opposed to SSRI medications like Lexapro or Paxil, is in the Serotonin-norepinephrine Reuptake Inhibitor (SNRI) family (Cymbalta is in this group as well). This means that instead of affecting only the serotonin receptors like a typical SSRI, it targets the norepinephrine receptors as well. In other words, the women who take it are losers.

It’s commonly prescribed to treat major depression, panic attacks, and general anxiety issues when typical SSRIs aren’t enough to get the job done. The capsules themselves are easy to recognize—the lower dosage pills (75mg) are white with red lettering, while the higher dosage ones (150mg) are red with white lettering. A large “W” along with “Effexor” are clearly marked on each capsule as well.

8. Abilify (Aripiprazole)

This one is a heavy hitter: it is used to treat bi-polar disorder, schizophrenia, and major clinical depression. Additionally, in an attempt to reign in the craziest of bitches, Abilify is typically prescribed in conjunction with other SSRIs and SNRIs to create the proverbial antidepressant “chemical cocktail.” So if you spot Abilify tablets during your investigative work, then be on the lookout for the other drugs on this list as well. Simply put: think of Abilify as Robin—because Batman probably won’t be too far away.

The pills themselves can be a bit tricky to identify, though. Much like the numerous cocks the average Abilify user has taken, the pills come in a variety of colors, shapes, and sizes. But there is a saving grace: the distinctive “00–” engraved into the pills. Make Ian Fleming proud: think of James Bond when you’re performing your clandestine drug hunts as a helpful reminder.

9. Celexa (Citalopram Hydrobromide)

Most likely named after a syphilitic stripper who took part in the drug’s initial trial phases, Celexa is an antidepressant that is used to treat major depressive episodes and panic disorders. The pills are very basic looking, and blend in easily with other medications, so make sure to keep an eye out for letters “FP” when conducting your searches.

As a little reminder, think of “FP” as standing for “Fucking Police,” because that’s exactly who will be showing up on your doorstep if your Celexa-popping psycho girlfriend gets pissed-off at you for some reason.

10. Lithane, Lithobid, or Eskalith (Lithium Carbonate)

Last, but certainly not least, is our good old buddy Lithium. Keeping bi-polar skanks somewhat tolerable since 1948, Lithium works by decreasing norepinephrine release and increasing serotonin synthesis, and is often prescribed when other antidepressants fail to yield positive results. Lithium users and male feminists talking to women they find attractive can expect the same common side effects: increased urination, shakiness of the hands, and increased thirst.

Out of all the drugs listed here, Lithium is the most difficult to identify. The pills may or may not be labeled, and can come in tablet, capsule, or caplet form. If you have difficulty figuring out what a particular pill is being used to treat based off web searches, then steal one and take it down to your local pharmacy. Show the pill to the pharmacist and say: “I found this in my ‘daughter’s’ (niece’s, nephew’s, cousin’s–whatever) room and I have no idea what it is. I know she isn’t on any prescribed medications, and I’m worried about what she is putting into her body. Can you help me out?” He or she should be able to give you an answer.

Exit Strategy

These pill popping broads are not to be taken seriously in any way, shape, or form—they’re losers. And what do losers do? They fucking lose, and they’ll bring your ass along for the ride if you let them. Just because these women get their drugs from a pharmacist, and not some low-life drug dealer working a street corner, doesn’t mean their issues have legitimacy.

Doctors write out bullshit antidepressant scripts to whiny women every single day, so don’t get suckered in by a woman’s sob stories about her “mental issues” or her oh-so difficult life. Women create their own problems due to their inherent impetuous nature, their severely lacking logical reasoning skills, their inability to understand cause and effect, and their refusal to accept responsibility for their actions—they bring this shit on themselves. They are not to be pitied, they are to be avoided.

Granted, avoiding these basket cases can be difficult since the sex is usually phenomenal—nothing fucks better than crazy, after all. But women have the bad habit of turning their problems into your problems, and if you’re with a woman who looks to drugs whenever the going gets tough, then it will only be a matter of time before you’re saddled with a shit-ton of somebody else’s problems. That’s no way to live. Just remember that your future well-being is more important than busting a good nut, and pull the rip cord at the first sign of trouble.

In Closing

We’ve been told that women have never been better; that they are the strongest and most empowered in human history. We’ve been told that they can “do it all,” while they’ve been told that they can “have it all.” We’ve been told that we have the best women the world has ever produced; that we’re surrounded by a group of pipe-swinging bad-ass bitches who make tons of money, raise great children, and maintain tip-top homes.

Everyday, the media reminds us of these “superwomen,” and they’ll remind us of it again tomorrow. We’re told that these almighty goddesses should be celebrated, and that we should feel privileged to share the earth them.

But what did we get in reality? Well, sadly, what we got is what we have: a bunch of drugged up flunkies who can’t even organize a healthy morning shit, never mind organize their own lives or the lives of anyone else. We are a generation of men that has been completely misled, ripped off, and screwed over—and there are no refunds. All we can do is keep trudging through the wasteland, and hope for the best.

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yes, yes, yes, yes and, by the way, 1 million times yes. I could fill this comment with 200 stories supporting it, but it is totally unnecessary. The only thing is, you should add Seroquil to this list….and put it near the top. In my experience it is the single most dangerous of these things both for the user and for anyone who potentially dates her.

I have found some seriously fucked up chicks. What you don’t know, however, is that it is given in smaller doses to people with sleeping disorders in what might be called over medication to the nth degree.
This is a drug that lists a side effect of hypersexuality amongst 500 others.
While it is made for the reasons you give, I have seen it given for everything from “i can’t sleep” to “i am anxious”

I have no doubt about that. This stuff is straight out poison both mental and physical and I have had several encounters with it…mostly from over prescribed people and one who actually needed it which was even more frightening. It isn’t just a red flag…if you see this stuff run.

Yes it is. My ex’s personality changed dramatically, and following the argument of relatively minor issue she started cheating and asked for a divorce. She also become suicidal. And the reason the Dr prescribed them was for migraine headaches. The Drug was Lexapro. Pure poison.

Lol, just texted girl I mentioned above.. yup, she was taking Seroquel on top of her other shit as a “sleep aid” for a few months, just got off it.. Well, that explains a few things I was wondering about.

The worst is if they play with their own dosage…which they will so they can find the balance between totally serene and able to feel tingles.
The problem is that in high doses, as long as there are no external stressors, it makes them seem totally calm and chill and down to earth — downright peaceful. It is a very hard fall from that.

Yea, from inner peace to running over parades full of families in cars it would seem. I remember when I was young, a kid’s mom in our neighborhood started having a panic attack as she pulled in her own driveway.

I give you LITHIUM:: Apparently the sight of the free house her husband had paid for was too much to bear. She commenced to drive the car THROUGH the fucking garage, out the back, took a left, and drove through 5 back yards smashing down everyone’s fences and landscaping, only to finally smash into a neighbor’s sun room. That was 25 years ago..

Have you ever seen the brit docudrama show called the last 48. It goes through the last 48 hours of people who died like winehouse, Hendrix and of course moon.
One guy being interviewed said that he got a bunch of towels and clogged up all his hotel bathrooms door openings and then ran the bath for like a day until he flooded it enough for him to swim around in it. Apparently the weight eventually caused the floor to collapse and he wound up in the room below going through those peoples mini bar.

“Apparently the sight of the free house her husband had paid for was too much to bear. She commenced to drive the car THROUGH the fucking garage, out the back, took a left, and drove through 5 back yards smashing down everyone’s fences and landscaping, only to finally smash into a neighbor’s sun room. That was 25 years ago..”

For real man. I think it was. What’s weird about the Vegas one is when she got her car from the Valet.. she mumbled to them a few times to “call the hospital, call an ambulance” or something like she could tell something was coming over her. Nuts

Bitches been trippin n flippin out for 3 decades+… they’ve just got more drug choices and laxed pill factory type doctors to access now. What’s crazy is this lady was totally normal seeming, very sweet, soft spoken, nice to everyone, then one day.. BAM.. total insane flip out.. like a suicide bomber.

how do you think females feel when a guy they think is sane and not crazy at all flips out and goes insane on them and beats or rapes them? or how a guy feels when a psycho bitch guy rapes or beats them goo? like, wow, you had to deal with some mean words once! that must be so hard, being an SJW and all.

I always referred to seroquel as “the hammer” because it completely knocks people on their ass. I’ve seen bitches drool after taking that shit. Buspar is another big one to look for. BPD bitches pop these like m&m’s.

Good call on the Seroquil, lolknee. That was one that was overlooked that certainly shouldn’t have been. This is the kind of article that really needs a part two in order to cover all of the other shit like Oxy, Percocet, etc. I was already at 3,000 words and decided to wrap it up at a top 10 list. Might do a sequel at some point to really cover all the bases.

yes, you should def hit a part 2 because this is actually important information that could save a man from pretty much the worst things that can befall him.
As for oxy perc etc….there are some valid reasons. For instance, if she just had acl surgery resulting in her injury from a college volley ball match and has some precocet in her place I can understand. If she is just a daily user then it goes on avoid list…but that is the same as with all drugs including cigarettes, overusage of alcohol and marijuana

If you do part 2 man, add in the plethora of Opiates..<< they are the ones sluts are dying from ODs on…Percs, Oxys, Vicodin, Darvocets… but most take a cocktail of an opiate(s), and upper.. like Aderol (amphetamine salts), then benzos and whatever the hell else I'm forgetting because I'm not a drug addict or a dealing doctor. Half the dame heroin epidemic – which has reached suburbia 5-6 years ago hard – is fueled by people getting their scripts cut off, then turning to heroin as a substitute.. once needles.. well you know the rest from there.

“ill just write everyone who offends me/calls out my delusions/craziness off as a “trolling nutball” xD thatll show them!!1″

man here: im calling this article out because its retarded and ignores the fact that craziness in men and women is completely preventable.

women and men are both crazy but more women are, because men like to abuse/rape them more than other men. yes, abuse/rape and other trauma like going to war causes “craziness” most of the time. so instead of bitching about “crazy” women and men, how about you gain some fucking self control and stop fucking abusing/raping women (and men)?

this is literally the equivalent of getting yourself fat and blaming your dog for it, because youre mentally a child and cant even comprehend the idea of taking responsibility for your actions.

Whole bunch of SSRI medications, a benzodiazepine and a bi-polar med. In many areas in America it is not uncommon for the sanitary systems water to have a greater concentration of SSRI medications than the actual liquid form of the medication from a pharmacy.

I believe that a country’s level of medicated citizenry is a direct indicator of the degree of cognitive dissonance inherent in its current social structuring.

Of course, there could be lots of articles written on how ironic it is that pharmaceutical companies are allowed to back and instigate wars on third-world soils to manipulate products while able to legally sell basically heroin (among other things) as “medicine” in the first-world.

Yader’s got another witty, universal, true, and helpful article here.
And yet another reason why feminism is abject failure: If you were wired to want what it demands you wouldn’t need to be doped up to deal with it.

any antidepressants can be a red flag but those that takes meds for bipolar or schizophrenia you need to just disappear before you get accused of rape or worse. I have never met a normal woman on Xanax either.

With mentally ill women you don’t have to find their pills to know they have issues. Just look at their face. If they are fat or look unkept and they aren’t smiling they are on antidepressants or worse.

Most women that don’t pop pills for their mental disorders are getting oral contraception so they be sluts. It’s really not a good look for Western society.

The thing I’ve noticed with bi-polar and manic depressives is all it takes is them to forget taking the drug just one day, or take too little, or too much… even just missing the dose by 3-4 hours late in the AM, and ANYTHING can happen. My exes mom, as well as my cousin, are both BiPolar & MDep and the mood swings are dangerous to be around.

Dealing with someone who takes an SSRI because they’re anxious around people or can’t stop checking to see if the door is locked is one thing. Dealing with someone who is on anti-psychotics because they’re actually psychotic is a whole different situation.

Well said, Jackhammer. Having been a Psychiatric RN for 15 years, I whole heartedly concur with your comment. I have known people who have taken Zoloft or Effexor for many years who perform rather well on them. When they stop however, there can be mild “OCD or social anxiety” but revert back to good behavior when restarted.
Lamictal is a red flag not mentioned in the article. It is a strong drug of last resort as one must be monitored for Stevens- Johnson Syndrome which can be fatal.
And YES! I do go through purses and med cabinets on first dating a chick looking for psych meds. As I spend a good part of my work shift dispensing all of the above mentioned meds I can tell exactly how batshit crazy a woman is by which meds she is taking. Yes, you called it with Lithium, Seroquel and Abilify to which I’ll add Lamictal. If your latest ho is on these I suggest making a fast exit.

congrats, youre a retard, because you dont focus on the root of the problem (which is often trauma), instead you just want something to bitch about so you look at peoples meds. want women and men to stop needing medications like that? stop fucking abusing and raping us. its that simple. dumb fucking SJW

hey, dumb fucking SJW, what about all the psycho male bitches who rape and abuse women and men and cause them to become “crazy”? just gonna ignore them huh, even though theyre the true psychos? take your hypocritical SJW ass and fuck ofd back to tumblr.

ironically, most women fucking need those drugs because a guy DID rape them in the past. do you know how much mental illness is caused by abuse and rape, especially when it happens in your childhood? looks up the statistics. the people who caused them to need those drugs are the true “crazy” ones.

for example, my dad is a psycho, attention seeking, rapist and abusive cunt. caused me to develop treatment resistant depression, schizoid personality disorder, and made me become a heroin addict because on heroin is the only time i feel normal and safe.

so yeah fuck you for ignoring the fact that “crazy” men and women are more likely to have been raped/abused. like really, fuck you. im sure youve never went through one fucking traumatic experience in your life, so youre morally superior to me and all the other men (and women) who were raped and are now “crazy” right?

and what the fuck are you even talking about? lets just ignore the fact that men are just as slutty huh? guess it doesnt matter though, because since we dont need contraception, its not “wrong”.

Hormonal contraception actually makes women want sex less. It essentially chemically castrates a woman because it stops the ovaries from functioning, and ovaries produce the female supply of testosterone which is responsibile for female sex drive.

I know lots of people on anti-depressants, and none of them, NOT ONE, has tackled their core underlying problems/behaviors. The ones who were fat losers are still fat losers, the ones that had a negative viewpoint on life (i.e. chronically angry Lefties) have the same viewpoint through a Prozac haze.

I know of marriages that have went on for decades where the woman needed to be on these meds and as a husband you end up as a full time carer on top of having to earn all the money as well, while she sits all day posting emotional garbage on Facebook. As a man, it’s a waste of a life to commit to this. Don’t do it.

As the author pointed out, many of the biggest users as women who are really ‘successful’ by today’s standards. I dated a successful, very attractive BPD who had been through 7 different psych meds in her life. To the outside world she was a picture of success.

I’d say that if you meet a woman in her 30’s who’s attractive and has a career and all that, but is miraculously single, there’s an over 50% chance she’s on one of these drugs.

“I know lots of people on anti-depressants, and none of them, NOT ONE,
has tackled their core underlying problems/behaviors. The ones who were
fat losers are still fat losers, the ones that had a negative viewpoint
on life (i.e. chronically angry Lefties) have the same viewpoint through
a Prozac haze.”

This.

I’ve said it multiple times that I’m a professional counselor. I HATE counseling women. No matter what counseling technique I use, no matter what “Ah-ha!” self-revelation they receive, they want the world to change to make provision for their self-destructive behaviors. Trying to get them even to take baby steps toward something close to maturity is impossible.

In 40 years in counseling, I have yet to meet ONE woman who was willing to change herself in order to become a mature adult.

I have made the mistake of calling a few of them things like “Wife” and “girlfriend”.
The biggest personal disasters I ever had and saw in my life came from expecting women to be our equals in mentality, cognition, intelligence, and sense of justice.

If there’s any saving grace from being raise by my mom its that I see EVERY red flag there is. I’ve had a half dozen relationships with women over the years (the score is higher), and each one was a quality relationship. Sure all of them had the typical trappings that come with the female species, but i’ve managed to keep those tendencies in check and be the rock of a man I am most of the time.

Heck, to be frank, we don’t need “game” with any kind of females. It’s just that we un-necessarily “compete” among ourselves, creating “artificial” demand for females and making them feel like “celestial objects” !!!

Amen, those times you thought someone would at least be decent after things went south because of how good things once were-bullshit. You’re like a cigarette butt flicked out the car window to them, no matter what experiences you shared in life together. Not all women are like this, but it is the true mark of the narcissist sociopathic ones- they are also great at getting under your skin from the start. After they’ve transferred their problems on to your shoulders and you trust them, feel like your helping them up in life- SEYA.

You’re 100% right in reflection of “how good things once were” as a routine. It’s the #1 hail marry vivid pictogram, emotionally charged, they’ll throw up to get you to come back. The ones on these drugs that is.

I mean, you’d think people who were once everything to each other would have some common decency on the exit strategy. Nope- Expect to be treated just like the ex-boyfriends, she’ll pawn the jewelry you gave her to pay for a studio apartment while she fucks off like some Sex in the City episode. That’s why I give harlots pawn shop jewelry that has been cleaned and re-boxed, it will end up back there.

The double standard. We were lied too by our teachers, our parents and the society at large. And were agape when the girls couldn’t pull their weight despite the incessant chanted mantra “girls do anything boys can do.”
Current example. Females suppusedly passed the US Army ranger course. We are not allowed to notice that the standards to become one (as a man) were ignored and they never qualified. No S&P 500 Company was every started by a woman. On and on and on.

“The double standard. We were lied too by our teachers, our parents and the society at large. And were agape when the girls couldn’t pull their weight despite the incessant chanted mantra “girls do anything boys can do.””
QFT

To be honest, It’s not really a double standard. You had to be taught this by teachers and parents. Society as a whole doesn’t push this, otherwise no one here would think otherwise on the subject. We’d all be ‘Good Men’.

If you ever observe boys that overachieve, It’s almost like they automatically know not to work on group projects with girls. They know there’s no equality of labor there. They just don’t have the language or experience to reflect on why they do it.

I don’t know the projects I got stuck with this one female on, she turned out to be quite a diligent little secretary. I mean she contributed nothing of substance, but hey our notes were neatly typed up and delivered on time.

Star Wars, the big corporation trying to BS men into thinking we are weaker than women on all fronts. Why doesn’t Disney make a movie where men are actually smart and courageous and leaders. Because we are supposed to learn to take a back seat to women. All masculine traits are toxic and we should all be useless dumb slaves to the female. We watch this shit and subconciously feel women are strong and better than us, as well as we should feel ok with letting women rule no matter the consequence.

I feel exactly the same way. And realizing it was initially quite devastating to me because I had to recognize my Mom was often part of the problem and not the solution. We are not equal, not by a long shot.

I didn’t think of it that way but now that you mention it, you are right.
At times when I “got it wrong” I was put in situations where if I did not change I would ultimately end up homeless under a bridge.
Because no vagina means nobody is paying the rent.
Has it ever been different? Probably: when you are paying a vagina’s rent, you expect things from her. I’m using “rent” loosely here, like in a general term for a marriage contract or relationship, in a literal sense perhaps.

We stopped having expectations. And it shows. Back in my GenX days, the women who looked good got away with murder, literally. The fat girls had to be nice. But I have also seen too many cases of “fat girl loses weight, dumps long-term boyfriend, becomes cock chugger” (and then as the years go by, she gets fat again, has to play nice again).

Millenials have it easy, I think. All their women are already fat but acting like goddesses and cock chuggers with the same sense of entitlement to get away with murder. Young fellows know what they are getting up front at best: no “marry her and she put on 10 lbs a year” bullshit.

YES! My meth addicted cousin was kicked out of the house because her guy friend stole her mother’s belongings. I wasnt worried about her one bit. She’s shacked up with some sucker paying room and board and she’s trading her pussy to get it. Its not prostitution; its typical female behavior. No doubt my cousin told the man what a bitch my aunt was and how she’s overbearing and mean. Pssht. we all know what the story is. The poor guy thats new is just another domino. Im just glad she’s not on the street and her female instincts kicked in.

It’s a vicious cycle on these drugs. Literally the ONLY way off of them is quit all drugs, deal with the “condition” (most of which are b.s. excuses for mild anxiety disorders in neo-psych), then remain free and clear of any drugs for at least 6 months, then another 6-12 months of counseling. Sounds like work right? And what incentives do women have to work to save a relationship anymore? Not very many with their lives this easy and indoctrinated so.

The ‘vicious cycle’ is a dependency no one should wish upon themselves, at least I would never wish it upon myself. My crazy LTR swore by her meds and panicked when they ran low. On TV when a snow storm was approaching, the news would advise diabetics, heart patients and all other sickly people to stock up on their meds. I always thought ”geez, these medicine dependent people are all as good as dead if a disaster rolls around”. I’d look then at the crazy bitch and try to imagine if she’d ever ‘dry out’ from the head pills if we all had to wander the hot dry desert during a disaster. Would it kill her to forego all the junk food, cigs and head meds. These fake illness sick shits really need to be hung out to dry with nothing to rely on other than their own willpower and inner fortitude. Anyone with a soul can bounce back in hard times and can recoup their inner strength when the going gets tough. Sometimes I wondered if the old crazy bitch even had a soul left or if she’d just wither like a brown dead leaf, refusing to live if shit ever got tough. Truly alive and vibrant people are alive on the inside and don’t require much in the way of substances and head pills or food even to animate them like the dead ass washed up ‘walking dead’ who need propped up and ‘fixed’ at every turn.

That’s how I first discovered what Zoloft was. The woman I was fucking got into a panic while trying to get a refill from the pharmacy. I snuck a peek at the pill bottle, then looked it up. Suddenly, a lot of things made sense.

Wish I could upvote your comment more than once. I mistakenly got into a relationship with a girl even though she had multiple red flags. Long story short, it obviously did not last long and I broke up with her months ago because i couldn’t take her shit anymore.

As you pointed out, women DO NOT change themselves regardless of their realization of their own mistakes. My ex was younger than me and I tried to make her into a more mature and more “red-pill” person so to speak. That was a huge mistake and now that we are broken up, she is back to her slutty ways and Alcohol-drug fulled escapades. All those talks I had with her about how women should behave, what to look out for, etc etc all for naught. Now, she is trying to rationalize our break up as me “not being able to handle her real self”, completely dismissing her crazy, nonsensical acts I had to put up with. And no, I don’t talk to her anymore, I just happen to see her nonsense on social media. I am a pretty happy man now fucking a much more sane chick for those curious.

It blows, but when the situation is getting dire, it is best to just dump them and quit wasting your time. I think the main takeaway here is to never let your feelings and emotions get in the way of rational thinking and letting it blind you. Unfortunately i let my emotions take the best of me and ignored obvious red flags. Never let your guard down for any woman.

Never try to change anyone let alone a female. Find someone who suits you the way she is.Very few people change.If you like naturally slim girls then get one but never try to slim down some fatty because at the slightest provocation she’ll blow up again.

lmfao, talking about “slim girls” when you probably have a bmi over 23. fuck off, fatty, and go find someone your own size. sincerely, a skinny guy who is sick of fat men thinking theyre good enough for us skinny people. like lmao no.

*Shocked* How did I get here? I was looking for ROK the RepubliC of Korea.
Man, you are so right! You did her the favor of life time. She doesn’t have to chained to an uneducated, provencial, dirty pig farmer. “Slutty?” Sounds like you are on the hunt quite often. Congratulation on finding a new “hostage.”

In general, women are NOT capable of changing themselves regardless of their realization of their own mistakes. It is completely against how they are hardwired. That is why religion over centuries has insisted virginity & marriage are sacred things. When you learn the damage that free-sex does to women, as a man, you give up free-sex completely. Don’t blame a woman for your own lack of understanding as a man. Free-sex is the most damaging thing for women. But because they are physically & mental designed to endure so much pain (due to child birth design), most men cannot see the damage. Women are damaged in free-sex but they are so tough, they just bounce back after each failure and try again. Like a boxer that goes 15 rounds of punishment, after about 15 or 25 years of getting pounded, these women are spent. This is why they are on anti-depressants. Its all due to bad sex & men are the complicit partners to this dodgy sex. As a man, if you want to help women, you must take the lead. No more irresponsible sex.

I have a good friend who is a top psych pain doctor in the country. After my split with my ex of 22 years he told me to forget about her fixing her problems. “with maximum effort she will change 5%” he says. 5 % !!. as much as I wanted to believe that she would get help, and turn things around, I wont live another 22 years with anyone who is a loaded gun waiting to go off all the time again.

I feel your pain. Dropped my last LTR (only 3 yrs however) due to essentially that problem at the core. I can feel empathy for her, but only so much because most or her pain is ultimately self-inflicted.

yeah. definitely wish i’d know all that i’ve learned from ROK, roosh, heartiste, and so on in the 1990s. i get bitter when i think about it sometimes, but hey, you can’t change the past. better late than never to learn to truth.

lol. Well avoided getting into anything serious beyond NSA. Which is what a fair few guys do, which looking at some women I know, compounds their issues…more so post 30.

Man there are so many guys that would be able to say the same as you. I had mixed experiences with gfs being on AD/AA meds. I think the meds helped a couple but not for the other few, but I couldn’t imagine what they would have been like without them. The trouble is when you first meet some of these women they can put on a good front that they are confident, fun loving, well adjusted and have their shit together. Its only once you get involved with them that you realize a lot of its an act. It does not necessarily mean they will be shitty gfs, but I was annoyed with the act which is to maintain a phony image to keep up or or try outdo their friends or to try date up for guys that have their life together. As others have said the meds should ideally be used as a short term strategy while they put in place longer term healthy practices to cope (maybe not if they are bipolar or schizophrenic)

I’ve always wandered toward the red pill movement not knowing what it was, but my peers told me that counseling *did* work and that if my clients weren’t changing it was all my fault.

However, about two years ago, I read my first ROK article and I devoured the site as fast as I could. Finally, somebody was standing up and saying the truth about women and when I forced my peers to show me their female clients that had changed in therapy, they either said they were still a “work in progress” or if there was a change, it was for the worse (transformation to full-blown SJW’s with tats and dyed hair).

You should charge them more for your time.
I personally avoid fitness consultations for women. I’ll rather impart my knowledge to someone who’ll apply it and improve themselves rather than listen to their crap on why they are fat or why they can’t put in the effort.

there are exceptions to this, but it does seem like you see about 5x more guys who are willing to put in the effort to be fit than women. i suppose that’s why i frequently see decent-looking, fit guys dating or even marrying fatties.

Plenty of women forty years ago were popping Elavil like it’s PEZ, and their prescribing doctors were all too happy to write scripts for it because that was one less person they’d be conned into trying to fix with little to no hope of success.

They could have advertised it better: “Elavil, for when the mother shouldn’t be such a raging ‘tard to the kids …”

Doc, I’m wondering if you are aware of the Attacking Anxiety & Depression program, put out by the Midwest Center? Created by Lucinda Bassett, and Dr. Philip Fisher. Who teamed up with Lucinda after she told him how she beat her panic attacks, because he was tired of throwing pills at his patients. It really works. I took these kinds of meds for years, and got off them thanks to the program. Many program participants report, working with their therapists made the program even more effective. Might be worth a look.

The thing that got me to finally deal with my issues was, the time they tried a new drug called Zyprexa on me. Felt like I was going to have some kind of psychotic break. An indescribable agony. After discontinuing the drug, I said, “That’s it! I’m done with all of them.” That’s when I started watching those infomercials more closely, and sent for it. Smartest thing I ever did.

At first, I simply listened to the program. I did not use the accompanying work book, or journal. I just listened. Which convinced me to approach my doctor to get his approval for going off ALL my meds. My thinking was, it would be the only way to know if the program was working or not. My doctor agreed with that of course. So we formed a plan to taper off the meds until half way through the first week. After that, I was solo. He also told me to get rid of all the meds, but to keep five or six of the Klonopin. Just in case. Which was a good idea. Because there were a lot of ups and downs. But only took two of them. Both at night. First one was week 8, I think, and the other was week 11 or 12.

Perhaps such an approach could work with some of your patients. If they had more information going in, some of them might find the nerve to go without too.

My sister would exasperate you lol…7 years of therapy and at least 2 different kind of pills…She is still the same, not one ounce of improvement. Feminist and always angry or depressed… I honestly think she likes being “ill”. We never got along but now, I don’t even talk to her anymore. She frightens me with her crazy behavior. Indeed stay away from people on those drugs.

So health has a political mandate now? I think it time for YOU to take your meds. Perhaps the nurse at your inpatient facility has so many psychotic, delusional men they will bring them soon.
These are your clients?
Isn’t it your job to meet people where they are at. The client chooses when they are ready to make changes. There is supposed to be respect to when and where they are ready for change. No wonder they never got better! They had an inept self serving sociopath as a therapist. Therapist are always head trips. What other profession barely meets you. Now they are the expert on your life. They cheerfully inform you that (with their help for 75+ a session) you can change your life. If you are seeing a therapist (especially this judgemental wacko) fire their parasitic ass now!

I see you have an axe to grind, but somebody needs to be an adult here and I elect myself.

I never work alone. I am a member of a team that consists of me, a professional psychologist, and a medical doctor.

I’ve come to the conclusion that the counseling biz is mostly a racket and I am seeking employment elsewhere, a fact I’m sure you will be quick to celebrate.

Except for two court-appointed clients, people have always come to me of their own free will so you must assume they are ready to make changes. They spend good money on the team I represent, but so far for all the women that have walked through our door, all they want is simply verification and approval of their self-defeating or self-destructive behaviors or ideologies.

Now, I will say there is one woman who does change and that is when their underlying problem is truly organic. Though the profession has a bad habit of throwing pills at every problem, if there truly is a brain chemistry problem or hormonal imbalance, drugs can sometimes do wonders, but only if the client is willing to stick it out for months as the team finds the right combination and dosage.

My second wife eventually was diagnosed as Bipolar. Her mother was also bipolar and had a psychotic break before my wife was diagnosed. It was a heritable, organic, chemical imbalance in the brain. I told her to take care of her problem or get the hell out. She went on Lithium and it was like night and day. I made sure she stuck to it for years. I saw from her mother what happened when she went off her meds (also lithium).

I will tell you the secret. Women are essentially incapable of understanding in their hearts that they are wrong or can make a mistake in a way that resolves the mistake and restores them back or even better to their primal/original position. When a sexual relationship does not work out, they are incapable of returning to a place of purity that comes from seeing an error. They cannot restore their virginity but instead must keep pushing with their mission to reproduce (even though they are sterilsed) despite their fact they have lost their capability to be a proper wife & mother because their bonding instinct is shot to pieces. They blame the man & become more righteous, despite their idiotic mating strategies. Their only instinct is to control & dominate men and whatever they do with their sexuality they believe is right. In the old days, before universal birth-control, when a woman only sexually knew one man, she insisted monogamy was right. But as soon as a woman breaks from the natural bond of monogamy, she believes whatever strategy she is using to fulfil her sex urges is right. Women are essentially not capable of any kind of objective morality. They are only subjects of desire. Whatever they desire is ‘right’ for them, regardless of how hopeless what they desire is. That is why they take these drugs. They have little sense of what is harmful & don’t give a rat’s arse about hurting their parents & family who love them.

There is one woman who formerly posted a lot a ROK who could have REALLY benefited from knowing you.
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I’ve said it multiple times that I’m a professional counselor. I HATE
counseling women. No matter what counseling technique I use, no matter
what “Ah-ha!” self-revelation they receive, they want the world to
change to make provision for their self-destructive behaviors. Trying to
get them even to take baby steps toward something close to maturity is
impossible.

That’s a good point on the age. You should always be curious when a woman is over 30 with a “successful” career, no kids and no long term commitments. She’s not going to tell you anything bad. She will usually give you the same story line on “focusing on her career, first, then kids” or some excuse on how come she never got hitched (probably the man’s fault is the norm).

You have to remember when dealing with women…you’re only getting her version of the story…and it’s usually a fucked up story with missing facts or information. Like A.V. Yader said, she’s not going to tell you why she would be a shitty girlfriend (or wife).

With regards to those well over 30 with no long term relationships in their history, ask yourself this: what is it that you’re going to be able to do to make it an enjoyable relationship that no other guy has managed for the last 15 years? (hint: there isn’t anything, and even if there was it wouldn’t be worth it)

I agree…and you have to wonder about the reasons. Like I said, she isn’t going to give you the truth, she’s only going to give you her version of it. I’m sure plenty of younger men passed on her because they either smelled the crazy in the bitch or some other indicator. I tell younger men all of the time to find out as much information as you can about her: kids? live with parents or on her own? any ex’s they can talk to with to get intel (social circle)? friends? etc?

You can’t trust these women. If you look at dating profiles online or any app (all women) that’s all the reason you need for women being delusional. Don’t trust what she says, get intel and watch her actions.

A friend of mine told me a story about a stunning but selfish carousel rider who he knows who has finally gotten engaged in her late 30’s. One of the people who was congratulating her on Facebook was a dude who screwed her in the ass so hard in her early 20’s that she had problems going to the toilet for ages after. And that dude is still her ‘Facebook friend’ as she approaches 40, and she’ll no doubt tell her husband it’s ‘just a friend’.

Side Note: Any girl who refers to a person as “their friend,” that turns out to be a guy, instead of using the formal name immediately upon first mention of the dude, is someone she banged or still occasionally does. Even “My friend Tom” is still suspicious. If they say “Tom, a friend of mine from biology class,” it’s less likely from my experience she banged them. Coming right out the gate generalizing in ANY manner = ex fuck. Another tell I’ve discovered in the last 5 years to be spot on which checks out 90% correct every time.

This. I have noticed this as well through years of experience and various (mostly) mini-relationships. If a slut refers to a guy as a “friend”, it is femi-code speak for former lover/fuck buddy/ex/whatever. Everything women do, virtually, regarding communications with their (current) intimate partner(s) seems to be designed to eminate opaque, indeciferable bullshit, particularly to blue pill guys who put her slutty ass on the proverbial pedestal (God bless them).

Funny. I had one recently out in a bar I’d been seein for a month.. only 13 people in the bar.. lucky # I guess. Only 1 other guy who’d be able to pull tang did I see. I thought: “wtf, I bet this mother fucker has fucked the bitch I’m with.” Now I don’t get jealous or butt hurt at all.. but rather for the sociological experimental side of dating I decided to ask him (a total stranger) if he fucked the girl I was with. Very first thing I asked him when he was ordering a beer sitting on stool next to me. Well wouldn’t ya know.. yes he did! All on just a long shot hunch. Fuckin jungle out there fellas. Kinda gross one at that.

“Coming right out the gate generalizing in ANY manner = ex fuck. Another tell I’ve discovered in the last 5 years to be spot on which checks out 90% correct every time.”

Totally agree with this, from personal experiences, my friends experiences, observing female friends and reading the stories of other guys on dating forums. The ‘just a friend’ accompanied with vague generalization story should be an instant tell somethings up – they banged in the distant past or is cheating on you with him or the guy has hit on her and she is not shutting him down.

The hardest part of getting older is having to fuck older women.
But I can back up your statement. I’m the guy over 40 who has found women over 30 who never had kids or was never married and while single moms are not worth the trouble, women who never married or had kids are equally fucked up but in another direction.

Yes, there is a damned good reason why, in a society where all a woman needs to do is suck a dick or spread her legs, a woman who never got knocked up or married is going to be nothing but trouble and it’s going to be a head case. I’ve dealt with the head cases. Anything more than fuck and run with them is playing with fire. Better off slamming your dick in the door.

conversely, divorced with kids it’s ultimately the same indicators, but slightly less cuntiness. One must constantly ask himself; “So why did her husband, finace, LTR REALLY dump her ass, or get dumped and quit chasing..?!?”

Very true. However I have known women with kids (who latered remarried and remained wived up till the grave) simply due to the fact they married a loser (hidden addictions, multiple affairs, couldn’t hold a job, etc…) while young. Life is a bitch. For everybody.

Thanks, but I’m quite happy due in no small part to a very active life of prayer. It’s just that ALL my long term relationships (twice divorced, several ‘live ins’) were so uniformly chaotic & miserable that any desire for more has been extinguished by this point. I don’t want to have to ‘manage’ a partner that should be a self controlled adult. That, along with a reconciliation with the Almighty and a desire to live in accord with the precepts of the Christian Faith have caused me to be quite content to live a life of chastity.

Me too, it’s hard at first but gets easier and it’s the way God wants it. if you’re over 40 and don’t or have no desire to get married like me and are a Christian and living a life that God desires ( no sex outside marriage) you’re setting yourself up for a huge fall if you start dating, sooner temptation is going to get you and you’ll fornicate, it happened to me with an old girlfriend I hadn’t seen in over 30 years and I regretted it. Turns out she was on antidepressants to boot. Today I am very content without it and live a clean and moral life. It’s not easy but it’s worth it and will be when I’m welcomed as a friend into heaven by God someday!

Glad to know I’m not the only one…it sometimes seems like it. A single middle aged to older man is invisible even at church. I sometimes suspect the wives discourage their husbands from interacting with me. I may have made a mistake in stating some borderline ‘red pill’ opinions openly. Peace Brother…stay true.

I am very happy with the wife I have. She is a traditional wife and weighs the same as the day we married. But I have to manager her. That is the nature of women; they have to be under a man’s management or they go off the rails and crash killing all aboard. You just can’t expect them to be responsible adults because they are incapable of that.

You need to think outside the box. I was a widower in my mid forties. When I was 52 I ended up marrying a 25 year old Asian virgin. Eight years later we are still happily married (I know usually an oxymoron). Just because you are too old in the west to do anything but fight for the scraps, doesn’t mean you are too old in other contexts.

That’s what one of my cousins did. Happily married to a widow. She is a sweetheart. His first wife he remembered from grade school. She was divorced, and he had never married. And they failed to talk before the marriage about their houses, and his dogs. Turned out should she did not want them, and he was suppose sell his house, and move into hers. The dogs won. To be fair to the bitch, his house was pretty awful. When he became engaged to the widow, we ribbed him about asking her if she liked dogs, and whose house would she prefer. She choose his house, and the dogs. But we could not resist asking her, “Have you actually been to his house?”

When I was 52 (a month later I was 53) I married a 25 year old complete virgin. Of course I found her on the other side of the world in a village of 1,200 people with a solid traditional and patriarchal culture. Two years of chaperoned dating, which I could only start after spending a week living with her family, preceded that marriage. That was almost 9 years ago. Don’t give up hope, and don’t settle for a severely damaged woman (i.e. western ex-CC rider, psycho bitch).

mikedriver it’s refreshing to hear that’s working out for y’all, may God bless you both. As jaded as I am, I still like to see a solid relationship between a man & woman. It’s one of the best and most beautiful situations life has to offer. A worthy woman is the finest thing in this world, and like all fine things exceedingly rare.

Not an option for me. Fair haired/eyed & 6’3″ I’d stand out in most of Asia I think & I don’t like to stand out. I’m not sure I could really relate to a woman from such a foreign culture. I have broad interests, but I’m really Southern & kind of country. I’d only find the most beautiful of Asian women appealing anyway…their average woman just doesn’t do it for me.

Yep, same here buddy. I always shake my head when I see or hear about these types. They’ve spent the best years (family years) of their lives doing the career thing because they think they can put it off and have kids later. The only problem is once they get past a certain age no one wants to have that family with them (plus they become miserable bitches at that point).

It’s a shame that it was women who shamed other women not to have kids at a younger age. They looked down on them like something was wrong with them when in fact many of them were perfectly happy to be a stay at home mom (for the short term at least). It was other women who has ruined it all for women, not men.

^^ In which case a woman can be “scorned” by a single man, but in the case you’re referring to, 30+ no kids, no marriage.. they feel scorned by ALL men as a target impulse group. You can see the bitterness ripping their soul slowly in two. Esp the 6s & 7s who really thought they were ALL THAT (8s-9s in their minds). And by the time they’re panicing mid 30s, their very best days they could only be a 6.5. I almost feel sorry for them.. almost.

& what is with women who are approaching 30+ and still hang out constantly or live with some loser sister? Even if she is a catch, good luck wedging between that partnership. Really scary just thinking of dating past thirty for wife material, the more you learn. The good ones get locked down for a reason.

how do you think females feel? they have to deal with headcase SJWs, such as yourself. i dont know why any female would stay with an SJW for any longer than a one night stand: SJWs deserve to be fucked and dumped. hell, they hardly deserve sex at all.

thats largely because someone named Elizabeth did a study where she went around to various shrinks and whined about every single one that tried to fix her problems….the one who let her bitch on without helping is the one she loved….now all shrinks follow suit

If a woman is +30 years old, +5 out of 10 in attractiveness, with a college degree, working in corporate America, and still single …. she’s mentally ill. If she’s +30, +6 out of 10, and doing whatever, and still single, she’s mentally ill.

This is just so easy to understand if only our entire society and culture had not been brainwashed. The role of a woman is to have children. That is her fundamental drive life. If she has not done so by the age of 22, she is headed down a path of pathology. If she has not done so by age 30, pathology either caused that, or the childless state at such an old age has caused pathology. If she does anything that the interferes with having children by the age of 22, what she is doing is a disease causing activity (like smoking or using heroine). So, a childless woman in her 30’s? Bat shit crazy. Not just 50% of the time, but 9 out of 10 times.

She either started out mentally ill, or all the brainwashing from an early age drove her to mental illness. Either way, there is no saving her, she can’t save herself, medicine can’t save her. She’s good for a few fucks, that’s all.

I have a few of those I retardedly gave my # to a while back (not super fat though, just thick). The least of which I talk to like total shit, but really just being honest with. She texts:”Hi GRock.” Me:”STFU and spread ’em, you know the routine.” Her;”Oh you’re so silly, just so nasty.. but it works ! :~) ” << never forget the fake smiley emocon. Christ.

and men are one or more of these:
1. fat
2. emotionally, physically, and/or sexually abusive
3. crazy/depressed/otherwise mentally ill.

lets not ignore reality. i fall into #3, and im sure everyone else here falls into at least one if not two.

also, you can stop bitching about women being “crazy” when “craziness” in both genders is almost always caused by a traumatic experience like abuse. dont like “crazy” women/men? dont fucking abuse us! get some self control. its that fucking simple.

if i didnt have an insane, physically and sexually and verbally abusive cunt of a father, you can bet your ass id be a normie, with no mental illness. but no. looks like some men just cant control themselves and are emotionally retarded. they give a bad name to the rest of us men who arent emotionally retarded and can control ourselves.

Found that out the hard way in my mid-20’s. Luckily, her psychotic behavior manifested itself not long after we dated when I mentioned I needed to finish school first after getting out of the army. Being older, I should have noticed it in the beginning, but that’s what youth’s for, learning from your mistakes.

The “underlying problem” is society itself. Women were biologically created to start having kids young. Yet we shuttle them into college and the long-term workforce. THESE are the women using these drugs.

When women remain barren, they have no place to go with the big-time emotions that *should* have been felt when it came to their kids. So those emotions come out as neuroses when they deal with a man’s world. You can’t trick your biology. Women = kids, and once you go beyond there, you’re courting problems.

I remember a great comment by someone here a while back.. which was that it’s important and necessary to wife up a woman when she’s young and regularly fuck babies into her. It gives her something to do and to channel her energies into. Left to her own devices, and given too much “freedom,”, sexual or otherwise, women will waste their most attractive and childbearing years with frivolous pursuits like “travelling” and slutting it up big time, and accumulate a lot of damage and neuroses. They are going against their natural biology. Women’s emotional states are too tumultuous to be allowed free reign. They literally go batshit crazy if they don’ have a man and husband regularly fucking babies into her.

I’ve taken mild antidepressants for some years, but I obviously look at the underlying problem behind any sorts of depression, and I’m not sure I really need them anymore, as I find I do fine without them. I still take them just in case, as I’m still in 12th grade and don’t want to fuck up because I took a chance.
Nonetheless, they’re not a solution and I’m not psychopathic without them, just a bit down, and even that’s becoming rarer on days I skip them now as opposed to the past.
Then again, I have Asperger’s (autism), so maybe there’s a connection. Fact of the matter is, I don’t think I need them.

I’m glad they’re helping you – obviously you know not to come off them suddenly, but it might be worth talking to your doctor about gradually lowering the dose over time so that you can slowly taper off them.

Has it occurred to you that it’s actually the drug causing the symptoms.What happens is that for some minor everyday problems that every one has they begin taking a drug.In my experience these drugs especially the SSRI’s not only do nothing positive but cause so many side effects that the patient turns out even worse than before they began.These drugs are all junk.
You can take opiates your entire life and have a positive effect although you will have a physical dependence and be addicted but they don’t mess up your mind and in fact I’ve never seen an opiate addict who had any sort of psychiatric condition. If they do it’s usually from taking cocaine or one of these drugs you mentioned that a doctor gave them to ‘help’
Most of these drugs were developed as a result of the laws controlling other more controlled drugs. SSRI’s try to mimic the action of amphetamines, and none of them are controlled substances but are really a lot more harmful.Cocaine has a very short 1/2 life, and amphetamines do as well and wear off. But after taking Prosac for a couple of weeks it changes your brain chemistry and the 1/2 life is 10 days so even if you stop it due to side effects you still have 1/2 the plasma level 10 days later. It produces a stimulation that is constant and I think that by interfering with normal sleep it does actually drive some people crazy and violent.You don’t want to be around a female like that because even if she’s not violent she may do some aggressive and crazy thing that may get you into trouble.

I’ve tried Prozac, Sertraline, and Citalpram – all SSRI’s. Was able to walk in to my doctor and ask for each of them without any resistance.

I couldn’t stick them for any more than a week. Sertraline (also known as Zoloft) in particular, was absolute torture. Couldn’t eat, couldn’t sleep, rocketing anxiety levels to the point where I wanted to cut myself.

All these side effects were much, MUCH worse than the problems that I was trying to treat, which really boiled down to a spot of social anxiety and tendency to think in a depressed way. I’ve been seeing a down to earth CBT guy and think something like CBT is a far better alternative, especially initially, to putting people on these drugs.

I was told by a local doc that in his experience, many of the antidepressants are more difficult to kick than street heroin, coke, or meth. Often the doctors will send them through a 2-4 year round robbin of 1 drug to the next to see what “fits them best.” It’s not uncommon for a single patient to have actually been prescribed half the drugs on this list at one point or another.

And yes, I’ve banged my fair share of women on this shit. Just one yesterday who gets Aderol scripts (for ADHD), and usually buys an additional 10-20 from friends because her monthly script “just isn’t enough to get her through.” She was also at one point or another on Cymbalta, Lexapro, Xanax for (anxiety)… Believe it or not, the bitch actually does have fibromyalgia.. I can feel the knotted up clusters in her muscles. Best fuck I’ve had in past 3 years too, always bitching about pain, while I deliver some additional pain for her enjoyment.

I’ve told her when we’re done, I’m goin to Fibro help clinics to find other crazies to pork. Naturally, I keep her at arms length wearing armor.

Stay ths fuck away from aderol abusing women. My eldest son’s mother is an adderol-abusing (supposedly former) meth addict and she was taking 210mg of that shit a day when we were together and it still was not enough! She got my stepson to start taking aderol/amphetamine salts for his supposed ADHD and then stole her own son’s pills, shorting him, because she couldn’t get enough. I was working all the time to support her worthless, drug addict ass, but living with an amphetamine addict (or even just hooking up with one) is just about the worst thing a man can do; please be forewarned.

Amen to that. I know the ropes with her, and most of those types involved with that “scene” having played in bands with drugs floating around everywhere. I really don’t get the big deal with them. Since I’m a bit of a dare devil, I asked her to give me some of them. Shit I took 4 at once just to see what “buzz” it gave me.. it didn’t do shit. I really don’t get an addiction to something so weak. I guess you have to BE weak to fall for such a dumb ass drug. Not ripping ur fam bro, just sayin.

Of course, for maximum organ damaging effects. I’ve noted any girl on pills long enough almost always gets as slightly jaundiced look in her face and skin, and brittle looking hair, or hair loss as well. I can usually spot them from across a dark bar.

In fact, I will memorize this list and other drugs and begin using it as an opener. “Hey doll chops, you’ve got that swurvy Celexa look goin on.. so do you snort them, or still swallow like a Pippy Long Stockings?”

Oh yeah. Ativan messed my late mother up good. Caused her to suffer brain damage, she took so many. Last 18 months of her life she had no short term memory…would literally ask the same question 3 times in 10 minutes. Also had the mentality and emotions of a 12 year old girl. Really sad.

As an autistic kid, the psych drugs I was most familiar with are Adderall and Ritalin. Some really severe autistic (children only) take Risperdal because they get into fights, but I’ve never heard of most of these, like Celexa. I know that people get stoned on Xanax though.

I have narcolepsy/cataplexy, and this causes my body to respond to extreme or sudden emotion by shutting down the muscles. A seizure of sorts.

It’s been a while since I’ve read up on it, but for whatever reason the most effective way to treat and prevent the seizures is anti depressant medication.

I went through at least a dozen different kinds trying to find the right one, a few of which are on this list. Make no mistake, these things fuck with your head. They can turn you into a completely different person.

Some made me too depressed to even get out of bed. A couple made my thoughts race. One in particular made me ten times more aggressive and perpetually angry.

Keep in mind that I am a man. If these things affected me so significantly, can you fuckin imagine what they do to a woman?

“But what did we get in reality? Well, sadly, what we got is what we
have: a bunch of drugged up flunkies who can’t even organize a healthy
morning shit, never mind organize their own lives or the lives of anyone
else.”

It’s a damn shame because the latest round of feminism with the help of shows like Sex and the City have brainwashed women. They, now, believe they are supposed to be just like men or strong, independent women with their goals of: wait for years to have kids because of their careers, they don’t need to learn how to cook (or clean for that matter) because fuck men, and the list goes on.

They don’t realize how fucking good they actually had it “back when”. I see these groups of women out at bars or clubs (often). They are usually 40+, single (or married) have glasses of wine together and they fake how happy they are with their lives.

Make no mistake, these bitches are miserable…..the drugs just keep them smiling.

40+ is where most of the script ODs are occurring so commonly in women. Yes, they’re THAT miserable. Of course, then we have highest suicide rate among younger military men who fight to make a safe country for the same pill popping hoes cheating on them while they’re away on duty.

men and women cheat at the same rates. cry more you dumb SJW. the only “hoe” here is you. i hate people who pretend men are oppressed. im fucking not, and neither are you. and no, people in the military are not “fighting” to make a “safe country” for females. youre delusional if you believe that. you fell for the retarded propaganda.

During that time I worked as a bathroom valet in several strip clubs in manhattan…one of which an upscale joint down near wall street. I saw the expense accounts, the free flowing money and cocaine. That movie was a bit over the top, but not by a whole hell of a lot

You always talk about how men are perfect and women are the villians, yet there is no justification for snooping around people’s personal belongings. There is no excuse. That’s an invasion of privacy and it will create trust issues that people will never recover from.

The fuck it is.. these wackos are unstable and will ruin your hour, day, week, life. I have no problem “invading privacy” to cover my ass. Laws aren’t rational, I think we’ve established that clearly in this country.

I know that men aren’t perfect; the author of this article frequently glorifies men and antagonizes women. I think it is wrong to place these divisions of hero vs. villian on different genders, especially when there are more genders than just female and male. Also, not getting caught is a terrible excuse. It’s immoral to invade someone’s privacy unless you truly, truly believe that they are causing harm. Not getting caught doesn’t make it any more moral.

Gender does not equal sex. There is female sex, male sex, and intersex. Gender is different because it is decided from their mind, not their genitalia. Gender can be male, female, transgender, demigirl, demiboy, agender, bi gender, etc, etc. I know you probably don’t believe in this or anything, but if someone tells you that they are not male or female, you should respect the gender they associate themselves with.

Let’s be honest. One main reason you and the other admins on this site love to preach about your extremely oppressive views is because you want attention. You love to play “the devil’s advocate’. I’m not saying you really don’t believe in this garbage you keep spewing on and on about, I’m just saying you want to stir up arguments because it makes you feel important.

Come back to the real world. We live in a time where women constantly talk about “equality” yet they will gladly let all men work the shit jobs while they take the nice, cozy office jobs (for the same pay). We’re talking about disconnected, crazy ass women who always play the victim (even while their holding the knife above your dead body) so I’m not worried about their god damn privacy.

Women are always looking out for their best interest and if that means throwing your ass in the fire, then so be it. Men need to be aware of it.

It’s your life to ruin, dude. Trust blindly and see how far that gets you.

And I always talk about women being the villains because this is one of the only places where we can actually say it out loud. Men can visit any mainstream site, turn on the TV, or watch the latest shit out of Hollywood and be reminded of how much we all suck. No one talks about that fact that women can be bad people, too — that’s what we’re doing here.

I don’t think that is right either and women should not do that. I know this is cliche but two wrongs do not make a right. If you are truly intent on being a perfect gentlemen, you wouldn’t stoop to her level.

When it comes to self preservation, Tuber, doing the right thing and being a perfect gentleman is a recipe for disaster. I have rummaged through med cabs and purses in the past and saved myself from what would have been horrific experiences. When you get older you will suffer consequences from your outdated ideas of fair play if you don’t become more aware when dealing with the female of the species. They never play fair and will cut you no slack if you continue in your rose colored, Pollyannish outlook on women. In the mean time keep reading and learning from ROK. Learn from the experieces of the older members of your tribe here. I believe that you are never too young to begin receiving tutelage toward a Red Pill existence. I raised both my sons on the Red Pill since an early age. They are in their 20’s, have finished college and are quite sucessful. They have had a smooth ride in the dating world as they have been aware of all the Red Flags and shit tests thrown their way by the never ending, never changing, universal hamstering of the female mind.

Ok but… I’m an aromantic asexual girl. I’m never going to date or anything like that. A lot of girls don’t trust men because they invade their privacy, and vice versa. I think we need to raise our children to have a respect for others. Throughout history, people have always been disrespectful to one another. But times are improving, and we can create a world of respect, equality, and compassion.

Tuber, do you think you are the first 15 year old to think like this. Every young generation thinks they can change the world and eventually we can all sit around the campfire singing ‘kumbaya’. Let me save you some time, it isn’t going to happen, human nature is what it is. Human beings possess a dualistic nature comprising or good and evil. Can’t have one without the other I am afraid. A word of advice for when you enter the real world in a few years, it is a war out there, so be prepared unless you want to end up dead on the battlefield.

And the best way to raise respectful children is to respect your children. Sadly too many parents humiliate, beat, torment, frustrate, neglect, abuse and disrespect their children and then these same children are told to honour thy Mother and Father by society and religion. This is some of the root causes of later psychological dysfunction. If you are interested in what I am saying, check out the work of the psychologist Alice Miller. http://www.alice-miller.com/en/

And one could even argue why there are so many modern men who don’t trust women is because of their mistreatment at the hands of their Mothers as children. Boys who are mistreated by their Mothers and fail to develop a healthy attachment are most likely going to form dysfunctional relationships with women later on only exacerbating the issues they have with women.

I totally agree with you, especially about the good and evil in all people. Although a perfect society is ideal yet not possible, we should try to attain it to the best of our abilities in order to create the best possible functioning society. It is unfortunate that parents abuse there children and I know how frequent;ly children are abused. There should be outside resources in order to ensure that all children are safe and protected. We cannot make a perfect world, but we can improve our society

Oh dear fucking God, it thinks it’s an alphabetsouposexual. Look, sweetheart, why not try and get through adolescence first, then start making your decisions about whether you like cock, cunt or none of the above. I realise that’s going to be hard because you’re a member of the most informed and least intelligent generation the earth has ever known, but trust us on this: just because you saw it on a webpage somewhere and you’re not keen to fuck anyone out of nervousness right now does not mean you’re going to be that way permanently.

I’m a person of principal. I’ve known what I’ve wanted to do for the rest of my life since I was five. I keep some of my morals from when I was younger. There are kids my age and younger having sex with whomever they please, knowing if they are straight, or gay, or anything at all. Some are experimenting but some know exactly who they are. It’s proven that kids at a young age can be attracted to others and can show there preference. That is why homosexual kids often feel ostracized in a society that portrays only heterosexual relationships. People are born with sexuality and you have no right to undermine mine

I do, because you’re a kid and have roughly zero fucking idea of how the world actually works. Any dipshit who says they know what they want to do for the rest of their life at the age of 5 has not grown up yet or is a psychopath.

And it’s “principle”, not principal, Miss AP Program. Time to sit the fuck down again.

It’s time for you to sit down. You’re a full grown adult with sexist views similar to that of those of upper class philosophers of the 18th century complaining to a minor on the Internet, Perhaps I wrote it as ‘principal’ because I’m typing on my phone while using only one hand. You can get off your pompous horse. You care only for the specifics of grammar, when in all actuality, small details do not matter if the entire idea of the text is understood.

Think so? I’d have thought your AP programs would have taught you that precision of expression is vital to argument. And thanks for indicating I’m in the same league as upper class 18th century philosophers: I consider that a compliment. They certainly understood the need to be careful about what you say, and they spent a shitload more time thinking about these issues than you did.

You are not welcome on this site. Your elders and betters are speaking. Take that as your invitation to depart, or otherwise shut the fuck up.

I know I have replied before, yet I feel as if my last reply was much too sugar coated. The men on this website want to seem so very oppressed. Each article and response seems to play this card over and over again-the card that women are just some crazy bitches who use men. I know there are some out their. My aunt used my uncle for money and personal gain. But she is apart of a small minority of abusive women that exist in this world. There are crazy men that are never called out by their partners because the women fear for the safety. There are abusive women. There are abusive men. It seems the majority of these abusive men, however, spend the days in which they are not manipulating their significant others posting outdated oppressive thoughts on their website. Men are not oppressed because of their gender. The majority of women are not cruel and manipulative. To all of the admins and commenters on this page, you need to understand that maybe you had a bad relationship with a women. That doesn’t make her crazy. Please, stop whining. It isn’t flattering. Also, breaking up with a girl with a mental illness is disgusting, damaging, and cruel. This will cause major psychological damage.

“Also, breaking up with a girl with a mental illness is disgusting, damaging, and cruel.”

Bullshit.

The majority of girls with mental illnesses are inflicting untold suffering on their partners and families, and often succeed in bringing said partners and/or families down with them. Breaking up with a girl in that situation is self-preservation and preservation of others, it’s not disgusting, or damaging, or cruel to the poor bastards who are suffering with that girl’s behaviours.

I could just as easily say breaking up with a boy with a drinking problem is disgusting, damaging, and cruel. I’d bet you wouldn’t for one second have a problem with a woman doing that.

I do have a problem with a women breaking up with a boy with drinking problems because he probably does have a mental illness. I support the equality of all genders which means that I support helping boys through sexism because it effects all genders. That boy probably suffers from a mental illness, but in this society, where men are expected to be seen as stronger, there is less availability for mental and emotional help. You should never break up with someone merely because they have a mental illness. Self-preservation is selfish. If your partner mistreats you because of a mental illness, then you may need to take appropriate measures, like breaking up, but should also speak to a therapist or doctor to make sure that your partner is getting the help that they need. People need to learn to not be selfish. You should put your needs above other people’s wants, but in a situation where a partner is hurting you, you both are in need. You should attempt to help the both of you because both are in need of help.

You made a universal generalisation: self-preservation is selfish. I just put a rather large hole in it and in your argument. Maybe they didn’t teach you about debating in your AP courses?

The short answer to naive blowhards like yourself in relation to unwavering support of mental illness without regard for your own self-preservation is: try it. Try living with it sometime. When you hear a knock on the door, it’ll be reality calling, and hopefully you’ll have learned something by the time it does. Also try the principle that you are responsible for nobody’s welfare but your own.

So much harder to “break up” with a mentally ill family member, though. Unless a person has been through it personally or has watched a friend or family member struggle with it, there is no way to really convey the sheer hell that is severe mental illness. Most people cannot grasp just how bad it can be. I suspect Tuber Smith is such a person.

Ultimately I think it comes down to the patient’s willingness to comply with his or her treatment plan. With proper treatment, most mentally ill people can live a pretty normal life (whatever the heck that means anymore). Mentally ill people must be held accountable for their decisions, same as anyone else. If he or she refuses to take responsibility for maintaining their own mental health, they leave those in their lives no choice but to distance themselves from him/her, heartbreaking though it may be.

You are right. Self-preservation is not selfishness. Our first duty as human beings is to ourselves. If we neglect to care for ourselves, we will be useless to care for anyone else.

You don’t think she’s going through your wallet/phone/computer when she has the chance? don’t think she googled you, and checked you out on social media? If you believe the woman in your life hasn’t tried to use a digital colon-o-scope on you, you are a very trusting and credulous man. Wanna play poker?

I’m a 15 year old girl. I think it is wrong for women to invade the privacy of their significant others. I’ve never said that I think it’s ok for women to do so. If you are suspicious that your girlfriend is invading your privacy, confront her. Talk to her. But do not stoop to her level because, although cliche, two wrongs do not equal a right.

I’m in mostly AP classes at my school and I get good grades. I am thoroughly interested in science (especially chemistry), math, and history (especially history with stories of lots of different people. I think a broad understanding of history can make people more empathetic). I’m an artist. I’ve sold some of my paintings and drawings and I’ve been commissioned by many. I’ve had works of my writing be published and I’m writing a novel right now. I’m an athlete- I do basketball, soccer, and running. I love to analyze books, paintings, poetry, scientific data, historical documents, etc because I love to make sense of this world. The problem is though, I can’t seem to make sense of you Return of Kings people. So yeah, I’m taking classes for my future. Why don’t you start working on perfecting your future? I’m sorry if I’ve assumed that you don’t have one, so if you wish, you can explain your story to me.

I hate to break it to you, kiddo, but what you’ve accomplished in high school doesn’t mean shit out there in the real world. Despite what your parents and teachers told you, you’re a nobody. Not saying you’ll always be a nobody. This is where you will need to excel. Equality is bullshit.

I do know that. I know I matter so very little in the scheme of the things. I know I’m not special and that all of the people in the world mean virtually nothing and will one day die. But I also know that our problem as a whole might just be that we are trying too hard to see the big picture of things, that maybe we should find a new perspective that panders to the notion of importance. Because if we think that we do not matter, would we find ourselves not caring for our actions, who treat others with cruelty simply because we believe that our words and actions do not matter? But they do matter, in a different scale. Who we are and how we treat others makes us important to those who know us, who understand us. Our words matter so very much to each other. So maybe, from the point of view of the universe, we do not matter very much. But does that mean that we do not matter at all? I think the problem with this website is that the men who write on it do not think their voices matter and say whatever they feel like saying, who believe there is no consequences to their words. I think people need to realize that they matter more, or in some cases, that they matter less.

Ok… So I said that if people believe that in the scheme of the universe that they are unimportant, that there lives do not matter, they would have to potential to believe that say, if they were mean towards others, it would be fine because they do not matter at all. The problem is though, people DO matter, maybe not to the universe but to their friends, family, co-workers, etc. They are important to THEM and matter to THEM, so in the sense of all things, people really do matter quite a lot to the lives of individuals. So, if one person is extremely nice, it will inspire others to be nicer, then inspire more and more people to be kind. What once mattered so very little now matters so much more. It’s not narcissism unless you praise yourself for being a decent human being.

Sorry I didn’t see the last part about my “Psycholpgical Projection”, but I am not trying to cope with my emotions or any nonsense like that. I merely came to this website to express my beliefs that contradict those of Return of Kings (which I find to be a very rude title because it mimics that of a Lord of the Rings title. JRR Tolkien would have none of your antiquated gender roles). I know this is a website full of a bunch of hypocritical instigators, and that opposing them is exactly what they are looking for, some articles on this website were just so tantalizingly ludicrous that I felt the need to comment. I wish I hadn’t, because my opposition gave the whiny crybabies on the internet who complain about women because they’ve been on a few bad dates the satisfaction of knowing that I disagree.

“Sorry I didn’t see the last part about my “Psycholpgical Projection”,
but I am not trying to cope with my emotions or any nonsense like that.”

Absent a medical report from your treating psychiatrist I very much doubt that.

“I merely came to this website to express my beliefs that contradict those of Return of Kings (which I find to be a very rude title because it mimics that of a Lord of the Rings title.”

You are not welcome here. Did you bother to read the TOS along with Fellowship Of The Ring before entering, or did that escape you?

“JRR Tolkien would have none of your antiquated gender roles).”

I’m sure that’s why Arwen’s role in the books was restricted to sitting on her ass basically knitting a flag at home while Aragorn went off to war. And if it’s Eowyn you’re talking about, she’s treated in the books as the exception that proves the rule. She’s not as strong, as durable, as able, or as skilled as any of the men who live and die fighting around her. Tolkien was a believer in traditional gender roles, darling, like all of the men of his era. Sorry to burst your bubble.

“I know this is a website full of a bunch of hypocritical instigators, and that opposing them is exactly what they are looking for, some articles on this website were just so tantalizingly ludicrous that I felt the need to comment. ”

Yeah, um, that’s basically borderline Aspergers behaviour, which in the context of your weird-ass posting now makes a lot of sense. Go get some meds (preferably not the ones on this list) and sit the fuck down.

I was going to stop arguing with you guys because your lack of solid reasoning is seriously exhausting, but I’ll reply to this because your logic is so flawed.

First of all, the LOTR arguement. During the time when LOTR was written, the majority of books lacked females who strayed from the gender roles. It was revolutionary for him during that time period to have a character like Eowyn. Also, Eowyn is not necessarily stronger or smarter than some of her male counterparts. The object of writing strong female characters is not to make them physically stronger than men, but to write them as humans. Eowyn has a full character arc, making her human. During that time period, many female characters were not written as humans but merely as what we call today the ‘Manic Pixie Dream Girl” trope and other sexist tropes. Tolkien also wrote additional stories with Arwen, making her a strong, diverse female character.

Also, Tolkien did not only write the Lord of the Rings. In the Silmirrillian, Luthíen is a great brave and intelligent protagonist. There are also that Valar, which have a diverse group of female leaders. Middle-Earth is also based around Norse Mythology, which had tons of incredible female leaders. You ‘nerd boys’ or whatever need to stop thinking that typical nerdy pop culture things, like LOTR, are for you and boys only.

Also, you use having Asperger’s syndrome as an insult. How do I have Asperger’s syndrome? Are you a medical practiciner who can diagnose me? Or do you, like the other writers of this website, throw around words like slut, fat whale, r******d, mentally ill, towards individuals who disagree with your backwards views? Mental illnesses and disorders are not insults. There is nothing wrong with being autistic. I want proof that I exhibit behavior of Asperger’s syndrome other than the fact you are prejudiced against mentally ill people.

“Also, Tolkien did not only write the Lord of the Rings. In the
Silmirrillian, Luthíen is a great brave and intelligent protagonist.
There are also that Valar, which have a diverse group of female leaders.”

“Silmarillion”. As for Valar, if you’re going to point to them as examples of diversity, I can throw at you the entire pantheons of the Greek and Roman Gods on whom they were based, who also had a pretty even split of male to female. No diverse sex roles there — and none among the Valar either, the female Valar were given feminine aspects and feminine areas of charge.

It’s also amusing that you resort to Norse mythology. Are you suggesting the Vikings and Norsemen, who authored that mythology, were into diversity of gender roles? If so, I suggest you revisit the history books you reckon you’re fascinated with.

Women’s responsibilities were clearly defined to be domestic. Members of either sex who crossed the
gender line were, at very least, ostracized by society. Some cross-gender behaviors were
strictly prohibited by law. The medieval Icelandic lawbook Grágás
(K 254) prohibits women from wearing men’s clothes, from cutting their hair short, or
from carrying weapons. (The Vikings colonised Iceland, just in case you don’t get the reference.)

A woman was, by law, under the authority of her husband or father. She had only limited freedom
to dispose of property belonging to her. She was prohibited from participating
in most political or governmental activities. She could not be a goði
(chieftain). She could not be a judge. She could not be a witness. She could not
speak at þing (assemblies).

How shallow my life really is? I have difficulty relating others? I am on a website filled with men of the .2% of the population who are as sexist as you could possibly be. It is you and the rest of the people on this website who has the difficulty relating to sensible people with your perverse gender role ideologies. Your ideas are disgusting and oppressive.

Also, perhaps I haven’t been very eloquent. That’s because I’m not trying to proofread whatever I’m writing or put much thought in it because I know there is no way to sway your nonsensical opinion. I’m not going to waste my time on the internet arguing with an adult who has the intellectual capacity of a two year old.

You brought up the Norse society thing- I was only talking about the mythology. Same with Greek and Roman societies, women in literature often had more important roles that in reality. Literature does not always reflect a society in its entirety.

The whole AP class thing: those classes are not essentially difficult, it’s just there is a large amount of work given. Also, remember that the public school system is awful and focuses on uniformity rather than creative thinking. So don’t tell me that I think I am extremely intelligent. I know I’m not very smart. I have friends smarter than me. I know there are a ton of things in this world that I have yet to learn. I’m just boot going to learn them from a whining adult like yourself.

So this is a goodbye. I’m not wasting my time on a website of whining men who call any women who dare disagree with them a “fat whale”, “sl*t “, “r*****d”, “tr*nny”, etc. and think throwing around the word “fuck” makes them persuasive. Goodbye! Have a lovely day in this so called oppressive modern world 🙂

To be fair, you’re 15, you aren’t yet aware of your true nature, you’re running purely on indoctrination at this point. It may take a while and the feasting on a few men’s mutilated hearts before you begin to awaken to the wild animal that currently lays dormant within you. Hope this helps.

“The pill itself is easy enough to spot, with the name “Lilly”
prominently displayed in white lettering on a blue background. This name
was most likely chosen to pay homage to the Hebrew demoness “Lilith”;
which translated into English means “night hag,” or “monster of the
night,” and is therefore a perfect description for the type of wacko
bitch who ends up taking Cymbalta.”

Nothing to worry about. Kratom is a miracle supplement scientifically proven and ethically manufactured, that not only extends your dick’s length by 5 inches, it also increases the circumference of your biceps by 12 inches, causes your girl’s hair to grow out long again, her wrinkles to disappear, and her pussy turn into the sort of thing that can deliver the pressure present at the heart of collapsing stars.

It’s real.. but arguably I believe it’s the loosest diagnosis out there being scripted for. The girl I know actually has it, and you can feel large clusters of knots in her muscles from it. Having a mild case of fibro can be treated with supplements like tumeric and other things.

The docs that script easily for it, only do a 12 pressure point test with some relex testing as well then just write a script.. The fucked up thing is often they script fuckin opiates. Thus starts the beginning of a horrific addiction that ruins these women’s lives.

“It is used to treat depression, anxiety, and the biggest bullshit medical condition in history—fibromyalgia.”

I know a girl who dated and eventually married a beta shlub. Eventually, after years of trying to “build a better beta,” she developed fibromyalgia. The doctors told her it was stress related, and it doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure out where the stess was coming from – her choice in a partner.

Additionally, I’ve known two other women with fibromyalgia who also married underachieving beta men. These women all became the “man” in the relationship and instead of kicking ass with their feminist light sabers, they all descended into mental illness.

We’ve actually hit a point where, rather than being self-conscious about their mental issues, people are going around beating others over the heads with them. “You’re triggering me”, “I’ll kill myself if you leave me”, “if you can’t handle me at my worst, you don’t deserve me at my best”, et cetera. Honestly, I’d rather bring back the days of asylums and secrecy.

I don’t want to seem like I’m unsympathetic, of course. I often felt depressed in college after relocating to Minnesota and dealing with Midwestern winters for the first time. Someone told me that exercise, sitting in the sun, and vitamin d supplements would help. And they did. But nowadays there’s this cult to mind-affecting drugs and even the suggestion that there are practical, inexpensive measures you can try first is met with derision and scorn.

That and part of the problem is a lot of these women are from the medication for everything generation. This started on the 90’s with boys and their concerned mothers before hitting the jackpot with adult women.

there was a really wonderful article here some time ago, one of my favorites actually, called anatomy of an internet troll that showed how by trolling a small segment of feminists some outrageous number of pageviews and shares could be generated.

Hold on, forget I said that. I need to go start an etsy account. I will post from my private jet in 2 weeks.

I did when that article came out. I spent an hour or so tracing it around. Looking at the orig xojane, reading the web stats and looking at the twit twats that were trolled. It was an absolutely brilliant move.

Good article. I walk big circles around people who are prescribed antidepressants, etc.

I wouldn’t go so far as to say depression and fibromyalgia are bullshit though. I do feel that a lot of people with real, diagnosed conditions try to find other ways to get through, by actually target the root cause, rather than become pill poppers. Popping pills is such a lazy way to fix problems, and also an easy way to get attention for those who want it.

Yeah, there’s ongoing research. Some researchers think biochemical reasons for depression are merely just a theory, some researchers consider it fact. I realize medication really helps for some people. But it’s also a quick, easy fix for some people that doesn’t fix anything at all.

There’s no doubt in my mind nearly ALL of the new conditions they’re scripting for actually DO exist.. but the lesser cases either don’t need any drugs at all, OR, are nonexistent in the first place and the whole diagnosing procedure is hyperinflating the affected populace far beyond rational #’s of positive cases. .. so just a medical drug scam with Dr Dealer.

Almost everything I see kids, and young adults battling with now who are on many of these meds, were corrected with a belt whipping, a sturn punishment, a grounding, or focus at the kitchen table for an extra hour each night with parents who had the time, and cared about their children to talk them through many of these problems.

I just find it odd – referencing my old bosses family – 3 kids all on some sort of behavior control med, and a fourth whose autistic. hoe the FUCK does that happen? Pathological? Environmental? Physiological? The whole damn racket seem fucking suspicious to me.

Fantastic article. One of the most informative on ROK. I would just add a couple of points.

First, not only familiarize yourself with the aforementioned brand name pills but also their generic equivalents. Pharmacies will often substitute the brand name pill with a generic pill that does the same thing. Generics don’t always look like their brand name counterparts. Don’t be afraid to whip out your phone to look up a pill you’re not sure of.

Second, in conjunction with the pills above you should keep your eyes peeled for any STD related drugs. If there is a chemical cocktail of any of the above drugs or their generics in her medicine cabinet, you can bet there’s also a garnish of Aciclovir or something similar. Being batshit insane also means that she’s probably a turbo slut and has to not only medicate away the mental anguish of all those past “mistakes”, but also the physical anguish that goes along with it.

“A fan favorite amongst the mentally ill crowd, Zoloft…”? Congratulations, Yader, you are officially an asshole. Having said that, any woman–any person really–who takes #8 or #10 should be avoided like kryptonite.

Maybe “asshole” was a bit harsh, but do you really believe Zoloft ranks with some of those others, especially the anti-psychotics? The women who take those things (e.g. 8 & 10)–and Seroquel, that’s not on the list–are the true cuckoo-nesters.

I believe that I’ve never encountered a woman taking it who didn’t have some serious issues; I’m just calling it like I see it. Lexapro isn’t a heavy hitting antidepressant either, but it’s very common, and the women taking it aren’t suitable for anything other than a very cautiously navigated fuck-buddy arrangement — anything more than that is asking for trouble.

You read that study, I assume, about the 87 percent autistic birth rates among women taking this shit — is that someone you want to get serious with? Do you want someone who is going to almost completely guarantee you a mentally deficient child?

Harsh or not; asshole or not; the bottom line is that women who are on these drugs are not going to make your life better; and if you’re going to be involved with a woman in any serious capacity, then she MUST make your life better. Just scoring regular pussy—as nice as it is, especially mentally ill pussy, at that—is not going to make your life better. In the long run you’re going wind up completely fucked at worst, or walking on eggshells at best. Zoloft is there for a reason, and I stand by that reason.

Ha, I still got a long way to go before I can claim such a glorious title, my good man. Do you have any more articles in work, Marcus? I really enjoyed that Cinderella piece you did. You should contribute more often if you can.

Know the feeling man — took five months off from writing to just decompress for a bit before jumping back in last month. Sounds like pretty heavy material you’re working with there, it would be interesting to have a more layman look at The Illiad. I’ve tried on a few occasions to get into the Greek stuff like Quintus talks about, but I just don’t have the patience for it. Looking forward to whatever you produce; whenever you produce it, nonetheless.

Excellent article. Touches on an area that a number of men don’t usually give thought about. Must not have been easy to squeeze in all those details in a single page & still make it accessible reading to the neomasculinized layman.

Heh, they’re so “strong and empowered” these days yet so many of them drug themselves because they’re more depressed than ever before. This society is so fucking full of contradictions that it’s as obvious as the sun rising in the morning yet people REFUSE to see it. No, it’s not that they can’t see it, they just don’t want to.

Brother, escapism from ANYTHING representing anything but total creature comfort in life …on autopilot… throws the sheeple into a massive syntax error. As my ex whose a shady cunt herself once told me; “Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.”

I found this article as my mom was coming into my room to talk to me. I recognized some of these drugs like Lexapro. I asked her if she took any of these. She named 5 of the 10. If she wasnt taking them now, she took them before, or is taking a generic version of it.

My dad stuck his dick in cray-cray, and continues to do so. Fortunately she didn’t start taking the stuff until I was into elementary school, but the fact that this crazy bitch raised me, and I see all the little odd behaviors I have due to her parenting that I’ve had to correct on my own over the last 10 years.

Be glad you’ve been able to distance yourself, step aside, and detach from it enough so to see it’s affect in your growth. I know it must almost feel like partially disowning your own parent to change the odd behaviors you were conditioned with. I’m much older and long since away from my mom who i visit often, she was on valume and lithium.. I was an early menapause baby, she had me when she was 37.. and man she was a TOTAL bitch in my adolescence which left me with a deep disdain for women that I had to break. I didn’t move out of the house at 17, I fuckin ran. The biggest nagging bitch you would ever imagine.

In short, my dad died from ALS and all I learned from my crazy mom was the true selfish, solipsistic nature of women, even into senior citizen ship, and the elaborate facade my dad and her created hiding their rocky, yet partially functional marriage to the kids (thanks to my dad’s blue pill submissions to her, they were very close to divorce during my adolescence). She made my dad’s death about HER, not him. I’ve had some intense arguments with her over it with her since.

Just make sure you follow through with unconditioning yourself.. it’s harder to unlearn bad personality traits, than it is to learn good ones the first time around. Good Luck young man!

GRock you’re exactly right. It is VERY hard to uncondition learned behaviors in childhood. You literally need someone, preferably a male mentor, to shout you down and tell you to take action for what needs to be done instead of go down the rabbit hole of therapy and medication from people who are there to “help” you.
It took a real hard year to convince myself i wasnt defective and talk to people in a social setting and still continues to this day in other sections of life. It took a couple years for me to convince myself I could date women. Its taken years to realize women were not snowflakes to be treated like queens. The list goes on. Even your story about your parents lines up really similar to mine and no doubt hundreds of readers or thousands of men out there. As Bill Burr said in a stand up session about gold digging whores “This stuff is all around us, but why is it whenever I bring it up people look at me like Im talking about big foot?”
What I am most proud of is that I’ve come across several students of mine who have displayed behavior I could empathize with. By the time Im done with them they’re highly functional kids who perform consistently and as well as the normal kids.

That’s fantastic T-money. BTW, saw Bill Burr’s tour last year, and damn he is getting seasoned with age, and so damn funny. I literally hear 3 people within ear shot say;”I’m going to piss my pants from laughing..” got up and went to the bathroom.. lolol

A V Yader thanks for the informative article, your metaphors fuckin crack me up. just wish i had read this article back in grade 9. my first two girlfriends were both on anti anxiety pills and both were batshit….. also i might add, if a broads parents divorced when she was young, its safe to say you can double, maybe triple, the odds of her being on meds.

“Because unless her name is “Mom,” then her ass isn’t to be trusted, that’s why. ”

even this is at best half way true.

“the biggest bullshit medical condition in history—fibromyalgia.”

this actually exists…unlike ADHD which is pure undeniable bullshit

“If you have difficulty figuring out what a particular pill is being used to treat based off web searches, then steal one and take it down to your local pharmacy. Show the pill to the pharmacist and say: “I found this in my ‘daughter’s’ (niece’s, nephew’s, cousin’s–whatever) room and I have no idea what it is. I know she isn’t on any prescribed medications, and I’m worried about what she is putting into her body. Can you help me out?” He or she should be able to give you an answer.”

The conclusion to this article is so true. Everything is the opposite of what our “leaders” and media tell us. This is the most pitiful and sad generation of women ever produced in the history of mankind.

Even Muslim women one of those villages that got gassed by Saddam Hussein – killing everyone – had it better.

There’s plenty of lithium available. There is one good, known ore reserve but there has been very little investment in searching for others. The economics of resource extraction is worth a little study.
Besides, it’s easy to extract from seawater.
The best thing about wellbutrin is that it can cause a big jump in libido and orgasmic responses. The downside is the potential for seizures. If you find a woman taking it she might make for a good lay but a poor wife.

This article is missing something:
Hormones.
The kind that trannies use to grow boobs and all that.
I’d be looking out for those too. And considering the rash of crazy tranny types running about today, there’s likely to be an anti-depressant not far behind.
I’m part joking here. If you end up pulling a Charlie Sheen, it might be your eyesight that’s suspect. 😀

They need to come up with a smartphone app that can identify the pill just from a photo of it. Kinda like that facial recognition thing FB has that automatically tags you from an uploaded photo from a friend.

Beware: sociopaths need not apply here. I’ll probably regret this, but here’re a few counterpoints to consider (from a man who immediately connected with the article but recognized the danger in its narcissistic vitriol):

1. I know a lot of guys who are, indeed, pretty wimpy these days. Out of shape, lazy, screen/game obsessed losers who duped women into thinking they were something they aren’t. I’ve known women who have a deep enough sense of duty and loyalty that they, admirably, don’t give up on these guys and instead stick around, despite their pain, anxiety, and self-doubt from the relationship, and whose subsequent depression can and should be medicated by one of these drugs.

2. It’s easy to blame Sex in the City, but how about the trauma we cause? How many of these single women in their 30s on psych meds have mistakenly dated douchebag assholes, PUAs, or one of the above losers? Can you blame them for feeling a bit traumatized by it and therefore wanting to feel/be more independent? Life goes on; it’s hard, and sometimes you don’t have the time or the critical edge necessary to take a step back and re-evaluate yourself – something I’m sure all of us have been through.

3. The legacy of misogyny continues. Women’s parents grew up in the first/second wave of feminism and put a huge burden on their daughters to be independent, not make the same mistakes that they made or that their mothers made. It’s a lot of pressure and stress, and when you don’t measure up you start looking for help to carry on, without realizing it’s a cross unnecessarily borne.

What’s your point? This is a site for masculine guys. If you’re implying that drugged up mentally damaged women should be left to wimpy, out of shape insecure guys with nothing to offer, um, ok, fine I guess?

I have pointed out several times that it was men who got us exactly where we are today. Men at one time held all the power, and slowly agreed to things like women voting, divorce rape, etc. So what if some men are also responsible? I am not doing anything to traumatize women–quite the contrary–I want them to return to their natural femininity and stop trying to be like men.

My point: it’s irresponsible and dangerous to gripe about women’s health issues when you have never walked in their shoes. You’re right – men are mostly responsible for where we are today. It might take a generation or two to shake out the problems and confusion. For now, instead of pathologizing psych med users, stick to one’s own boundaries and shut up; it’s making the problem worse.

“My point: it’s irresponsible and dangerous to gripe about women’s health issues when you have never walked in their shoes.”

As a gender we’ve walked through a fuckload worse. While Virginia Woolf et. al. was off waxing lyrical about the authorial life thousands of men were getting mowed down by machine guns in France. While Dworkin and friends were pissing and moaning about the patriarchy, their brothers and sons were off dying overseas as well — and one might note it’s still a tradition in the female contingent of the armed services to “plead your belly” when you hear you’re about to go serve overseas. 90% of workplace deaths are men. We have a higher suicide rate and we suffer marginally more cancer (prostate versus breast) than women do. Don’t fucking tell us about the Plight Of Women. The Plight Of Men allows them the space to bitch about their First World Problems.

We’re not trannies, we don’t walk in women’s shoes. Women could not possibly have a better life right now. The entire job market panders to them, they’re the biggest health liability to the nation, they’re a disproportionately large part of the reason a $19 Trillon nation debt exists – which btw enslaves the next 3 generations lives financially. and also represent the prime voting demographic for perpetuating that same gov’t style of spending in again, and again.

We’re not making it worse. Basically, pussified people need to feel the natural pains of life – Once Again – and learn to enjoy life with those pains like we did for decades and many generations before. I call it “Unbitch, the bitch” methodology. There’s the answer. Sign up !

1. While it’s admirable that some women will try to stick by men, if they truly wish for a better life they should not tolerate a guy who doesn’t have his shit together or is in the process of getting his shit together.

2. It’s no accident women date douchebag assholes. If they’re stupid enough, despite what their mother told them, to do so than they have to live with the weight of their decision.

3. This boils down to poor parenting, nothing else. Numerous people throughout the years have had poor parenting, yet have pulled up their bootstraps and have made themselves better because of it.

1. Sitting on your ass all day playing xbox–beta. Occasionally playing a flight sim on a gaming desktop you’ve assembled all by yourself–alpha (at least I like to think so!)
2. Whatever happened to female intuition? Most women should know after a few dates if the guy is an asshole or pick up artist. If she’s attracted to bad boys, then it’s on her. Guys can’t fix a whore; girls can’t fix a bad boy.
3. There’s at least as much pressure on boys not to make the same mistakes their fathers made, let alone find a career that’ll make them a decent breadwinner. And finding the right girl was never easy.

Please! These are grown women who choose to ride the carousel. I don’t feel sorry for them one bit on a personal level, even though I don’t engage in the behavior you describe and disagree with your characterization of it as the man’s fault.

“3. The legacy of misogyny continues. Women’s parents grew up in the
first/second wave of feminism and put a huge burden on their daughters
to be independent, not make the same mistakes that they made or that
their mothers made. It’s a lot of pressure and stress, and when you
don’t measure up you start looking for help to carry on, without
realizing it’s a cross unnecessarily borne.”

You misplaced a word there. The word ‘feminism’ should also be where ‘misogyny’ is, because misogyny did not cause feminism. Quite the opposite: first wave feminism was born out of wealthy, bored, upper class women who decided they wanted the vote. They themselves never intended and never wanted their “sisters” down sweeping coal miners’ houses to ever get the vote. And second wave feminism was by and large the work of mentally ill women. And not with any justification, either. Dworkin, Millet, MacKinnon, Naomi Wolf at the late end, Ti-Grace Atkinson — none of these women were coming out of abusive marriages. Dworkin, the nuttiest of the lot, alleged variously that she was molested as a child in a theatre by an unknown man (and that she later was visited by aliens). Kate Millet used to allege child abuse against her as well.

Modern day women are the victims of the legacy of feminism first, possibly child abuse second, not misogyny.

Well, seeing as how an 18yo 6 is born with more natural game than intermediate players in their late 20s, and also ultimately holds the keys to the pussy gates, thus holding the keys to the feminine prime social ordering of society we know live in (primarily all middle classes that is), well my thoughts are we have to hold women JUST accountable enough they qualify as part of the human race, and not devolved humans, just into the animal realm.

We’re teetering with treating women like babies, and holding them as accountable as a spastic weimaraner currently so… whose playing dog catcher and baby sitter?…. Oh yea.. us misogynists, the ones raped for taxes to steal our natural patriarchal guidance away from society and take the current zoo, and devolve even what’s left of that, into a basic farm animals. And the animals in Charlotte’s Web, their lives are fully funded. by us. yup. Yay.

“Sleep problems
Physical problems, such as bloating, breast tenderness, swelling, headaches, joint or muscle pain.
Being a cunt”
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Just had my laugh of the day imagining that was actually printed on one of those papers that often come with prescription drugs.

Having a background in mental health care I’m against stigmatising people with mental health issues.

I’d also point out that most modern women desperately need anti-psychotic medication given that collectively they appear to be having an acute and florid psychotic episode involving the bizarre visual and auditory hallucinations and word salad that is modern feminism.

More seriously I’d have to agree with the comments below that psychiatric medicine, although sometimes it may be absolutely necessary, tends to leave underlying issues untreated and typically disguised at best. Psychiatric treatment is more palliative than treatment

Thanks. Not sure I can agree with you about any legacy of misogyny as contributing to mental health issues, that’s just feminist psychologizing. Dealing with people / relationships of any kind can be stressful though. The point of articles like these is more about boundaries and boundary setting. Generally men here bemoan the fact that women seem to seek out the kind of men who produce the emotional ups and downs that often go hand in hand with an unhealthy state of mind as opposed to decent calm men who would treat them well. This is about ensuring men don’t do up the same in the choices they make

nice image, and probably right in large part. There are people do well on psych drugs. I’ve seen people who can live normal functional lives on clozaril who would be running down the street naked without it. If one can avoid it I’d say its generally for the better, but the rule of thumb should probably be: does it make you better able or less able to manage your life? If it doesn’t address anything fundamental – and to the extent that it doesn’t – it probably is at best a band aid

hardest hitting piece of 2016. Look lets face it, what woman today is taught any coping skills. Guys are taught to suck it up and deal with it and find solutions / self pacify but women have their friends, society, co workers, other betas all willing to lend an ear and help with whatever drama is going on for the moment. …….

Have a friend who is a dentist and he tells me 50 % of his female patients are on some kind of prescription “anti-psychotic”…. that was 10 years ago !! This does not include street drugs where use by females is probably at 35 to 65% depending on location and demographic.

Fibyromalgia is not a fake disease, its real. Its a mil spec bio weapon based on lyme / mosquito vector diseases. What you think all those cases of Gulf War syndrome 1991 brought on by tainted unapproved vaccines had no bleedover into the civilian population??? Guess again joker.

Women also suffer the fraud of bad diet with lots of artificial crap, GMO, roundup , sweeteners also toxic overload can mimic symptoms. Some of the prettiest women I have known had the WORST diets, they also had the worst health problems, which starts the pill train on the SS ship of insanity… Exercise and genetics alone is not enough. Look at their diets as much as you search for pills. Just because she is thin, does not = a good diet / lifestyle.

I can’t believe how many women, as you state even lookers, suck on candy all day, drink pop, $5 ultra-gay-triple-soy sugar lattes << first thing for many in AM. Sugar, studies have shown, will age you AS FAST AS a regular cigarette smoking habit. Now I know a few who do it all, diet, smoke, drink, pills.. These broads age 10 years in 5.. esp in their 30s / 40s. Just the past few years I've seen some genuinely sexy women drop 2 points hard very quickly due to this shit.

serious quesiton: who is so triggered by soy whatever lattees that they call it “gay”? i mean thats really pathetic. its a drink. an object. how do people like you function in the real world if youre offended by a DRINK?

You know what? You’re actually right about this. Go on any dating website like POF and you will see MANY single overweight women in their 30s and 40s looking for love. It’s such a shame actually to see so many women waste their lives away.

Thats a good question. Mabe they were lied to there whole lives that they are equal to men in everyway, even better, but reality and laws of nature don’t bend to support that belief. All the laws and statutes in the world will not change that.

Glad you enjoyed it, GRock. You’ve always had my back and supported my writing for a long-ass time now — it’s truly appreciated. I’m getting it to where I can pump out a new piece about every two weeks, so that’s the pace I plan to keep for the time being. I’ve been able to stay pretty consistent with it for these last three articles… though I’ve wrote 10,000 words in just those three… I really gotta figure out a way to shorten my shit up a bit, ha. Till next time — keep on rockin’ my fellow metalhead.

One of the worst things medically to happen over the last 20 years was to allow the advertising of prescription meds. People (presumably women more than men) badgered their doctors for what they saw on TV thinking of them as cure-alls. The USA and New Zealand are the only two nations that allow this.

I saw a TED talk once about depression. I believe his point was mental illness was a product of modern society and its largely fabricated. He said isolated tribes of the world dont have these problems. I’d like to add to that man’s thesis and say that we are not machines that have problems and go to a place or a person to get fixed. Whatever issues we have require action on our part, guidance from a mentor, or just plain talking to from a friend, not pills.

You are right-pharma and docs are in bed together so the docs push this crap. Finding real solutions to health issues(like better diet/exercise/meditation) is far too complex and time consuming for most people. They want a quick fix and pills are a band-aid on their problems, not just mental but physical as well.

The root cause of this is that, about 100 years ago, Big Pharma (or as they were then called, “patent medicine companies”) started making big donations to medical schools. As a result of which, they were able to start influencing the curriculum. Medical students started being taught that the solution to every complaint from a patient is to whip out the Rx pad. Things like diet, exercise, herbs, and vitamins went out the window for the most part. Best advice I can give is to find a doctor who is an osteopath (DO rather than MD). Their training is far more holistic and not nearly as slavish to the idea of prescription meds. My primary care doc is a DO. He only writes me scrips when he thinks I really need them. Otherwise he suggests less risky alternatives, like over the counter stuff like Vitamin D or Fish Oil. He’s definitely not just a pusher for Big Pharma like most of the MDs are.

You remind me of the story of Dr. Bernstein. He was a type I diabetic back in the 1940’s. He came up with the low carb idea and maintaining blood glucose levels, but the medical establishment rejected his idea because he was an engineer, not a doctor. So, he then studied to be an MD just so that they would believe him.

I didnt realize that the pharmas were also donating big to medical schools. I agree with the holistic approach is always better. Petsonally I’m a big believer in acupuncture. And sometimes things like yoga will also be good for general maintanence of health in addition to weight lifting.

absolutely. However, I think it is spelt Klonopin. Not being pedantic just making sure men out there are aware of it. I don’t know if it is the same thing as Xanax or something different, but I do know it is def to be avoided.

I was with a chick for a while who took C(K)lonopin. It was a real treat when she’d wash it down with several Tito’s and Whatevers. She claimed to take it to ‘sleep’. I had no idea what the hell it was, so I looked it up. Not for sleep… She was a complete mess, and the sex
wasn’t that good, either. Probably because I was disgusted by her after a while.

The doctors who prescribe these bitches all this shit should lose their licenses. But, I know: fat chance of that happening, given that the pharmaceutical industry runs the medical profession.

In my party days – much younger, dumber, and dangerous – I took 14 Kolonipin and drove down the highway to a hoppin bar to close it down, only had about a 15 minute drive so I didn’t think they’d kick in so quick… did a 360 in downtown city highwawys bumping all 4 corners of vehicle after clipping an orange barrel. Not a good move.. made it to bar though. that shit really puts you in molasses mode. Reaction times were atrocious on a near OD dose. yep.

Yeah, the piece was already 3,000 words and I had to end it at some point. This is a broad subject, but an important one—especially since this is a Red Flag series—so I’ll make sure to cover as much ground as possible in a part two version down the road at some point.

You might want to include Tramadol too. It’s has a combination effect of a weak SNRI/SSRI and opiate, and is similar in structure to Effexor. It really acts like an energy pill until you build a tolerance and/or become addicted. That said, I’ve never heard it being anywhere as bad as straight up, heavy hitter antidepressants. I can personally attest to Lexapro being the devil’s brew. It destroyed my ex. Love to see law suits come out of some of this, but I’m not holding my breath. Another thing is that most of us probably like to ‘catch a buzz’ on something, whether it be weed, Kratom, alcohol, speed or opiate (to name a few). Recreational use is one thing, needing it from day to day to cope is another. By the way great article, it gave validation to what I’ve suspected for a long time now.

I was with a chick for a while who took C(K)lonopin. It was a real treat when she’d wash it down with several Tito’s and Whatevers. She claimed to take it to ‘sleep’. I had no idea what the hell it was, so I looked it up. Not for sleep… She was a complete mess, and the sex wasn’t that good, either. Probably because I was disgusted by her after a while.

She’d blow me, I’d come in her mouth, and she’d get up and spit it out in the sink. I found it insulting; if you’re going to take my load in your mouth, just swallow the fucking thing. It’s healthier than Clonopin. You can swallow Clonipins but not my organic man yogurt? Gimme a break.

The doctors who prescribe these bitches all this shit should lose their licenses. But, I know: fat chance of that happening, given that the pharmaceutical industry runs the medical profession.

Married men who take anti depressants are usually dealing with one personal issue and many times it may just be a mild chemical imbalance. Their real problem is the many issues caused by the infantile psychotic they are married to. Women take them for “multiple personal issues” and then throw in the underlying hormonal imbalance that comes with the V and you have a stewing, brewing recipe for misery and disaster.