Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.

Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.

I dunno. "Alpha/Omega" was epic, but I feel like the Star Saber's time was cut short, and that Megatron forged the Dark Saber too quickly. I mean, at least in Armada they actually used the Mini-Con weapons for several episodes, i.e. how Hot Shot owned the Cons with the Star Saber, but getting beaten by Scavenger and betrayed by Sideways hit him hard. Meanwhile, in Prime, the Star Saber is an epic sword, but gets broken by some Dark Energon, and the only artifact anyone's actually using is the phase shifter. Sure, Screamer's got Red Energon, Megs has the Dark Saber, and KO's gonna have the Resonance Blaster, but how long are those going to last? If you have plot devices in a series, you should use them.

phase wrote:Meanwhile, in Prime, the Star Saber is an epic sword, but gets broken by some Dark Energon, and the only artifact anyone's actually using is the phase shifter. Sure, Screamer's got Red Energon, Megs has the Dark Saber, and KO's gonna have the Resonance Blaster, but how long are those going to last? If you have plot devices in a series, you should use them.

The 'cons also have the Forge of Solus Prime. Let's not forget that.

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Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.

Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.

phase wrote:Meanwhile, in Prime, the Star Saber is an epic sword, but gets broken by some Dark Energon, and the only artifact anyone's actually using is the phase shifter. Sure, Screamer's got Red Energon, Megs has the Dark Saber, and KO's gonna have the Resonance Blaster, but how long are those going to last? If you have plot devices in a series, you should use them.

The 'cons also have the Forge of Solus Prime. Let's not forget that.

And what've they done with that? Create an over-powered weapon, that's all.

phase wrote:Meanwhile, in Prime, the Star Saber is an epic sword, but gets broken by some Dark Energon, and the only artifact anyone's actually using is the phase shifter. Sure, Screamer's got Red Energon, Megs has the Dark Saber, and KO's gonna have the Resonance Blaster, but how long are those going to last? If you have plot devices in a series, you should use them.

The 'cons also have the Forge of Solus Prime. Let's not forget that.

And what've they done with that? Create an over-powered weapon, that's all.

If he has more Dark Energon, which I'm pretty sure he does, he could make one for every [named] Decepticon!

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Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.

Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.

phase wrote:Meanwhile, in Prime, the Star Saber is an epic sword, but gets broken by some Dark Energon, and the only artifact anyone's actually using is the phase shifter. Sure, Screamer's got Red Energon, Megs has the Dark Saber, and KO's gonna have the Resonance Blaster, but how long are those going to last? If you have plot devices in a series, you should use them.

The 'cons also have the Forge of Solus Prime. Let's not forget that.

And what've they done with that? Create an over-powered weapon, that's all.

If he has more Dark Energon, which I'm pretty sure he does, he could make one for every [named] Decepticon!

No. I don't want Dark Energon to become the new Bumblebee be more overpowered than it apparently already is.

phase wrote:Meanwhile, in Prime, the Star Saber is an epic sword, but gets broken by some Dark Energon, and the only artifact anyone's actually using is the phase shifter. Sure, Screamer's got Red Energon, Megs has the Dark Saber, and KO's gonna have the Resonance Blaster, but how long are those going to last? If you have plot devices in a series, you should use them.

The 'cons also have the Forge of Solus Prime. Let's not forget that.

And what've they done with that? Create an over-powered weapon, that's all.

If he has more Dark Energon, which I'm pretty sure he does, he could make one for every [named] Decepticon!

No. I don't want Dark Energon to become the new Bumblebee be more overpowered than it apparently already is.

Actually, if a chunk of Dark Energon can bring up a planet full of the undead...

but Megatron wouldn't do that anyway. He'd give one to Soundwave at least, but tell me when he's gone head to head with an Autobot other than Wheeljack. I don't think Megatron trusts anyone else with such a powerful weapon, given the events that took place with Starscream and Airachnid.

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Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.

Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.

phase wrote:I dunno. "Alpha/Omega" was epic, but I feel like the Star Saber's time was cut short, and that Megatron forged the Dark Saber too quickly. I mean, at least in Armada they actually used the Mini-Con weapons for several episodes, i.e. how Hot Shot owned the Cons with the Star Saber, but getting beaten by Scavenger and betrayed by Sideways hit him hard. Meanwhile, in Prime, the Star Saber is an epic sword, but gets broken by some Dark Energon, and the only artifact anyone's actually using is the phase shifter. Sure, Screamer's got Red Energon, Megs has the Dark Saber, and KO's gonna have the Resonance Blaster, but how long are those going to last? If you have plot devices in a series, you should use them.

They were going to used the Spark Extractor in "Flying Mind" until the living warship nixed that plan.

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

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Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.

Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.

I believe he's referring to the unchanged status quo. The Cons lost a few of their main characters,

Uhhhhh, Breakdown is the only semi-main character that's dead. Airachnid is in stasis, hoping to make a return for Beast Hunters, and Starscream might join the 'cons again in S2E24.

but the Bots lost one.

Cliffjumper? You're joking right? He's not a main character. All main Autobots are accounted for.

Also, while we're at it, Tailgate and Seaspray are dead too.

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Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.

Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

I believe he's referring to the unchanged status quo. The Cons lost a few of their main characters,

Uhhhhh, Breakdown is the only semi-main character that's dead. Airachnid is in stasis, hoping to make a return for Beast Hunters, and Starscream might join the 'cons again in S2E24.

but the Bots lost one.

Cliffjumper? You're joking right? He's not a main character. All main Autobots are accounted for.

Also, while we're at it, Tailgate and Seaspray are dead too.

Oh for god's sake, look at the bigger picture !!! The Decepticon management team is shrinking, Autobots not so much.

But...we're talking about character deaths, and every death except for Breakdown's was a minor character.

Tailgate and Seaspray don't count in my argument cause they're "passing by" characters. And since cliffjumper gets mentioned so many times, I assumed he was a main character.

What defines a main character is it's importance and contribution to the overall plot. Cliffjumper is only mentioned when Arcee has her [annoying] revenge arc, and a few rare times after that. We can't really count a character that's been dead since Episode 1 a main character, no matter how many times he appears in flashbacks. If we wanted to consider Cliffjumper a main character because of that, we might as well include Tailgate.

Sabrblade wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:Cliffjumper? You're joking right? He's not a main character.

He was promoted as one, at least.

And isn't irony wonderful?

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Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.

Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.

I believe he's referring to the unchanged status quo. The Cons lost a few of their main characters,

Uhhhhh, Breakdown is the only semi-main character that's dead. Airachnid is in stasis, hoping to make a return for Beast Hunters, and Starscream might join the 'cons again in S2E24.

but the Bots lost one.

Cliffjumper? You're joking right? He's not a main character. All main Autobots are accounted for.

Also, while we're at it, Tailgate and Seaspray are dead too.

Oh for god's sake, look at the bigger picture !!! The Decepticon management team is shrinking, Autobots not so much.

But...we're talking about character deaths, and every death except for Breakdown's was a minor character.

Tailgate and Seaspray don't count in my argument cause they're "passing by" characters. And since cliffjumper gets mentioned so many times, I assumed he was a main character.

What defines a main character is it's importance and contribution to the overall plot. Cliffjumper is only mentioned when Arcee has her [annoying] revenge arc, and a few rare times after that. We can't really count a character that's been dead since Episode 1 a main character, no matter how many times he appears in flashbacks. If we wanted to consider Cliffjumper a main character because of that, we might as well include Tailgate.

At this rate of the show, the Autobots will still lose less guys than the Decepticons. It's kinda turned into Star Trek Voyager and the magic reset button.

Why DO the writers keep mentioning Cliffjumper anyway ? Is it just for Hasbro to keep selling his toys ?

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'