Chinese generals have said time and time again, that their plan is to conquer America, but they need to take Australia first. Sounds to me that China
is doing a great job in the conquering of Australia if the Australians don't even know it's happening despite them saying openly (prior to the new
found friendship) that it must be done. That friendship is a knife in the back waiting to happen.

You are proving my point. They do have to go through Australia. Unlike some arrogant Americans might think, Australia is Americas most important ally
in this part of the world. If we teamed up with China, and they would love for us to, then we could isolate Americas other allies in the region.
Australia and China could dominate the asia pacific.

And like you said, Australia will be attacked first. We must end the alliance. It does nothing for us.

lol Australias Allieance witht the US in thisregion means absolutely NOTHING, as specially to the US..!!

If Australia were invaded tomorrow by Indonesia or Malaysia, the US would just snub their noses at us down here and tell us to deal with it. The only
time the US would get involved, would when their bank account or personal assets are directly attacked.

Australia is NOT Americas closes ally in the region at all.. They'd selll us out in a heartbeat..!!!

And if you are talking nukes.. What comes around, goes around. M.A.D. goes just as well with China as it does with Russia.

Please chew on that for awhile, and come back later with your master plan.

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Dude the very fact that you think it can never happen will be your countrys undoing.

That is why I own 5 different weapons in case it does. I
may die in the process, but I guarantee I won't be the only one to bight it. Can you say the same about your country if someone tries to take it
over? Oh, I forgot, your country has one of the most restrictive laws in the WORLD for owning weapons.

the Australian Government co-ordinated more restrictive firearms legislation with all State Governments. Australia today has arguably some of the
most restrictive firearms legislation in the world.

Currently, about 5.2% of Australian adults (765,000 people)[1] own and use firearms for purposes such as hunting, controlling feral animals,
collecting, and target shooting.

So where did Germ recruit you.........a primary school? Oh......wait.....he taught his Poodle how to talk, yeah that must be it. Little man, your mums
calling you, go to bed.

For real you and these other three fools come across as total, brain dead, underachievers and make the average Aussie look stupid. Head back to
Fakebook and give someone a "Like". And before you jump in with another vapid response a)Learn to spell, b)Check history, c)Learn to block, duck and
run.

If you think 30,000 marines(right or wrong) are hangin' up north just to "ditch" you.......just hitch a ride on the next Chinese Love Boat home.
The last time I was at a base north west of here.......I clearly remember the Aussie and US flags were sitting proudly side by side........those flags
don't sit next to each other for nothing champ!

Australia does have very restrictive gun laws, and having lived through the Port Arthur massacre and then the gun buyback process, I can't help think
it was somehow contrived. I don't know exactly how you get a nutjob to open fire and just start killing people, but the timing was uncanny with
Howard coming into office (much like Bush/Cheney and 911). Perhaps some mind control ops we don't know about. I do remember watching the testimony of
a former Australian SAS soldier who had a chip medically removed from the base of his scull, and he was on record as saying he believed his mind was
being controlled.

I am a bit torn about the weapons issue though, as I also think that there is something to the statement "live by the sword die by the sword". For
every aggressive gun toting nation that has used force to achieve its ends successfully, there must be 10 that have fallen on their sword in the
process. America is a fair way down this path IMO. I don't think aggression, and wars of conquest in general, are sustainable financially or
otherwise.

Having said all that, the fact that Australia is on good terms with America, and has a strong military alliance, provides us with an unparalleled
level of security. The draw back is that we have to follow America into every bloody quagmire in the middle east, which is politically and socially
very unpopular down here, as we know they are thinly veiled wars of conquest and occupation.

On the firearms issue, I don't think I would personally own a firearm even if I was allowed to. I'm not convinced it actually makes anybody safer.
Sure if you really wanted to get hold of a gun you can, but there is something about not having one lying in every sock drawer and under every pillow
in the country that makes me feel safer to be honest.

Victory, security and peace can be achieved without ever firing a bullet, Gandhi proved this philosophy against the most powerful military of the day,
the British. This example seems to have been forgotten these days, and I think the world is poorer for it.

Such a complicated issue, sometimes I wish we could just all get along.

I'm glad to see the Chinese are now posting pro-Chinese imperialism propaganda here! I am looking forward to the communist Chinese takeover of the
world; a brave new world of cheap product, polluted skies and toxic waters. Societies with laws enforced at gun point that will bind us into slavery
so much so we will one day be so happy to have a job so we can buy scraps of food to feed our spouse and maybe one child so we can live long enough to
be canon fodder for some war we could not care less about. Long live our Chinese overlords! I for one, am truly excited! At least rumour has it the
chinese have small penises so it will hurt less when we are bent over and back doored. Apologies for the sarcasm or if anyone was insulted by this
rant, I meant it all

That said, I think it's high time to look at some recent Chinese data and try to draw what - initial- conclusions we can from them. I also
think we can peer through them towards a picture of the future that few have acknowledged to date, and perhaps even fewer wish to. If what I'm about
to say is even halfway true, the economies of countries like Australia and New Zealand, which we visited recently, as well as many others, are in for
a brutal shock.

I single out Australia and New Zealand because their economic growth, indeed by now their entire economic performance, which has been far better than
the US and EU in the past 5 years, would be torn and frayed to shreds if the Chinese economy would hit one or more serious snags. And from what I see
I can draw just one single conclusion: it will. The consequences down under will be shattering.

Now you may be aware of the fact that I have warned about China for years, and have predicted a civil war there before this decade is over (and/or
China waging war abroad). Simply because the rate of growth in the Chinese economy is not "sustainable", and because trying to achieve that rate,
China unleashed, among other things, the by far largest human mass migration in the history of mankind, which has seen 100's of millions of people
move from rural to industrial areas.

Originally posted by Germanicus
You are all a bunch of hate filled people.

It is no wonder your country is always at war.

All I suggest is that we end our alliance with you because it does not help us.

I also point out that you will lose the Reserve soon.

I know its scary but bad luck.

You can call me a nazi or whatever other stupid things you want to do. Its because I could link hundreds of articles about how the US Dollar will be
unseated as the Reserve ( next thread ). So keep crying. I dont care. It is reality.

And we think you will lose WW3. We do not want to fight for you anymore. Get used to that too. Do you hate the French also? Do you think the Greeks
are going to fight for you? No. Get used to it.

And grow up.

Hate filled? We're not hate filled, we just think you're stupid... And your twisted views are not reality, if anything, you're in the minority with
the way you think.... Nothing is changing,... So enjoy being our b****

Well you're welcome to your opinion. I'm not the one delusional enough to believe he speaks for his whole country when he advocates signing it over
to Red China simply because he has a bug up his butt about the US.

Now, you enjoy that Kool-Aid and remember when you speak you're a party of one. I know sometimes that squeaky Hamster wheel that continuously goes
around and around in your head that you call a thought process may have you believing your own BS. But when you're alone I'd avoid attempting to
take a group picture...

being an aussie i will leave this comment short and sweet i will support anything that brings america down you yanks have had it coming for some
time.I cant wait till it happens china would have to sink alot lower to even come close to america

Originally posted by scottbooth
being an aussie i will leave this comment short and sweet i will support anything that brings america down you yanks have had it coming for some
time.I cant wait till it happens china would have to sink alot lower to even come close to america

Stupid thread, Australia is getting the benefits of Chinese trade and none of the crap they put with on mainland China BECAUSE Australia is a western
country. Communist rule would put an end to that, and then you would get all the drawbacks.

Steven Harper declared Potash a national security asset for Canada when it was discovered that a Chinese company was hacking into a business deal to
sell one of our Potash corps to companies bidding, one was a Chinese company.

The Communist party is very involved in Chinese business..........same tactic used by the British Empire, so I wouldn't run to the Chinese so quickly,
you will probably be met with a bayonet in the back.

By the way didn't Australia sell off a bunch of mines to the Chinese? If the Americans lose, you won't have a choice in the matter, but it won't be
the future you think it will.

Best slug it out in the trenches with the Americans again, Aussies have been doing that for a long time.

what's wrong with what M.Gibson said?
it was and IS THE TRUTH!
The jews start wars and involve america every step all the way.plus they whine about the holocaust like it was ONLY them involved , while over 40+
million ppl died in WWII...but that's what they teach children in Jewmerica , i know cuz i live here...don't want to , but do...
you go ahead and stay loyal to israhell ... maybe you'll get dragged into another pointless war because
of your loyalty to them hooked-nose backstabbers ....

I don't know why anyone is even bothering arguing with Germanicus? It is totally pointless. He is obviously a Communist or at least a big fan of
National Socialism which he has admitted! Thats say's all you need to know. Would you try and argue with a Nazi circa 1940 about why anti-Semitism
and National Socialism in itself is evil and expect to change his mind? Or even get a rational response? Of course not. Because as a Nazi his whole
philosophical outlook on life is both evil and insane. Not insane in the psychotic sense (although that is debatable) but in the sense that being evil
is an insanity all in itself. Well, Germanicus clearly falls into this camp. So what's the point? Who knows what got the ball rolling for him? Maybe
an American girl broke his heart once and he re-bounded with a Chinese chick? It really doesn't matter. He clearly is not to be taken seriously.

Originally posted by scottbooth
being an aussie i will leave this comment short and sweet i will support anything that brings america down you yanks have had it coming for some
time.I cant wait till it happens china would have to sink alot lower to even come close to america

Awww how cute, Germanicus created a new profile to try to build support for his twisted thoughts and views....

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