Hah, you've got to be kidding subby. TFA clearly states the senate resolution specifically denies the opportunity for Obama to put boots on the ground, unless he uses the "loophole" in the poorly structured legal language written into the bill to push his powers beyond the scopw of what was duly authorized by congress.

And we all know that no modern president would unilaterally decide to strike a foreign nation and potentially embroil us in a long protracted war, nor would a modern president use the opportunities presented by poorly crafted language to expand the powers of the executive office.

/I didn't even bother reading. The last article I read said the resolution strictly forbid boots on the ground.//I suppose they might mean it included the phrase, "boots on the ground", and neglected to mention that it was preceded by "no"

/I didn't even bother reading. The last article I read said the resolution strictly forbid boots on the ground.//I suppose they might mean it included the phrase, "boots on the ground", and neglected to mention that it was preceded by "no"

War, huh yeahWhat is it good for?Absolutely nothing, oh hoh, ohWar huh yeahWhat is it good for?Absolutely nothing, say it again y'allWar, huh good GodWhat is it good for?Absolutely nothing, listen to me

Oh, war, I despise'Cause it means destruction of innocent livesWar means tear to thousands of mothers eyesWhen their sons go off to fight and lose their lives

I saidWar, huh good God y'allWhat is it good for?Absolutely nothing, just say it againWar whoa LordWhat is it good for?Absolutely nothing, listen to meWar, it ain't nothin' but a heartbreakerWar, friend only to the undertaker

Oh war, is an enemy to all mankindThe thought of war blows my mindWar has caused unrest within the younger generationInduction, then destruction who wants to die

War, good God, y'allWhat is it good for?Absolutely nothing, say it, say it, say itWar, uh huh, yeah, huhWhat is it good for?Absolutely nothing, listen to meWar, it ain't nothin' but a heartbreakerWar, it's got one friend that's the undertaker

Oh, war has shattered many young man's dreamsMade him disabled bitter and meanLife is much to short and precious to spend fighting wars these daysWar can't give life it can only take it away, ooh

War, huh, good God y'allWhat is it good for?Absolutely nothing, say it againWar, whoa, LordWhat is it good for?Absolutely nothing, listen to meWar, it ain't nothin' but a heartbreakerWar, friend only to the undertaker

Peace love and understanding tell meIs there no place for them todayThey say we must fight to keep our freedomBut Lord knows there's got to be a better way

War, huh, good God y'allWhat is it good for?You tell 'em, say it, say it, say it, say itWar, good Lord, huhWhat is it good for?Stand up and shout it, nothingWar, it ain't nothin' but a heartbreaker

Lawyers arguing over legal drafting, fascinating. Short version is that the Senate is working on an AUMF that is weird because the whole area of War Powers law is twisted around. Vague language about tailored action and some time limits. The President reserves the right to do more or less whatever he wants with the military, so the decision to bring in the Congress is political, not legal. Remember when Bush admin lawyers argued that the Iraq II AUMF authorized enhanced interrogation techniques at Gitmo?

This draft AUMF would recite that ""the president has authority under the Constitution to use force in order to defend the national security interests of the United States" something the law profs say is a huge concession by Congress, but you could argue it merely recognizes what has become the reality.

Putin is at the center of this.Assad has been his proxy Jihadi fighter in the south.If Assad goes, here is what and who will happen in Syria:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/06/syria-war-rebels-chec hnya-islamic-militants_n_2821197.htmlChechens. Muslim militants.This is why Putin has been helping Assad for so long. Syria is a virtual Russian satellite nation.If the United States assists the rebels, there you go.Putin won't let that happen, fark no.Therefore we have what we have now, which is Putin saying he wants a UN resolution but not allowing a UN resolution to go forward.Putin plays chess with the whole board.Obama is playing checkers.When Obama moves on to his next free lunch, Putin will still be there, calling the shots.

Elegy:Hah, you've got to be kidding subby. TFA clearly states the senate resolution specifically denies the opportunity for Obama to put boots on the ground, unless he uses the "loophole" in the poorly structured legal language written into the bill to push his powers beyond the scopw of what was duly authorized by congress.

Boots are on the ground, meat.The 1st Armored Division is in Jordan and has been since spring.

Legally, Obama doesn't even have to ask Congress to put boots on the ground, let alone launch missiles at them. Putting it to a congressional vote is an extreme courtesy. I don't see what the fark you're all complaining about. You've gotten more than you should've expected and our representative democracy is at work (so Syria can know well in advance precisely when we're striking and they have plenty of time to prepare.)

RealAmericanHero:Legally, Obama doesn't even have to ask Congress to put boots on the ground, let alone launch missiles at them. Putting it to a congressional vote is an extreme courtesyexample of political maneuvering. I don't see what the fark you're all complaining about. You've gotten more than you should've expected and our representative democracy is at work (so Syria can know well in advance precisely when we're striking and they have plenty of time to prepare.)

RealAmericanHero:Legally, Obama doesn't even have to ask Congress to put boots on the ground, let alone launch missiles at them. Putting it to a congressional vote is an extreme courtesy. I don't see what the fark you're all complaining about. You've gotten more than you should've expected and our representative democracy is at work (so Syria can know well in advance precisely when we're striking and they have plenty of time to prepare.)

So let me get this straight. We are going to Syria to attack them for using Chemical Weapons on the Rebels...basically assisting the Rebels in their fight against the government and the Rebels are: Al Qaeda the very group that has been responsible for multiple attacks including attacking the United States... incidentally this is the same Group we supported in the Afghanistan/Russian dust up and they attacked up later using the training and ideas we gave them...so I guess we've come full circle now!

barkingatthemoon:So let me get this straight. We are going to Syria to attack them for using Chemical Weapons on the Rebels...basically assisting the Rebels in their fight against the government and the Rebels are: Al Qaeda the very group that has been responsible for multiple attacks including attacking the United States... incidentally this is the same Group we supported in the Afghanistan/Russian dust up and they attacked up later using the training and ideas we gave them...so I guess we've come full circle now!

Their are multiple rebel groups that are fighting the government. There are pro-west rebel groups and anti-west rebel groups fighting.

HotIgneous Intruder:Elegy: Hah, you've got to be kidding subby. TFA clearly states the senate resolution specifically denies the opportunity for Obama to put boots on the ground, unless he uses the "loophole" in the poorly structured legal language written into the bill to push his powers beyond the scopw of what was duly authorized by congress.

Boots are on the ground, meat.The 1st Armored Division is in Jordan and has been since spring.

No, it isn't. There are 900 personnel in Jordan; the rest left after the annual multilateral exercise in June. We've got some Patriot batteries and a couple Air Force squadrons; that's it.

barkingatthemoon:So let me get this straight. We are going to Syria to attack them for using Chemical Weapons on the Rebels...basically assisting the Rebels in their fight against the government and the Rebels are: Al Qaeda the very group that has been responsible for multiple attacks including attacking the United States... incidentally this is the same Group we supported in the Afghanistan/Russian dust up and they attacked up later using the training and ideas we gave them...so I guess we've come full circle now!

Why would Assad use chemical weapons. It makes no sense to me. I am suggesting he didnt but it seems like a stupid move considering Obama made chemical weapons "The Red Line." Why would he want to force the US' hand?