Guys, take it easy!If You put ALL those parts away (seat clamp & headset fitted - & the threadfit 82.5 bb shell) the weight will be under 1100grams. That is just OK!My Dogma 65.1 is 1180gr (size 56, white World Champ edition) and I am totally OK about the total bike weight 6,8kg.

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The framebuilders (Pina, Colnago, Cippollini...) know about UCI weight limit, they know that 1200gr frame is just RIGHT weight to be at UCI limit. So, they make sure they produce super stiff and comfy frame at this weight. Simple as it is.

The handling of my Dogma is just a dream! I LOVE THE BIKE!I had Cervelo R5 last year, it was 400grams lighter....nice ride, very nimble, pleasure to go uphill.....but I felt lack of front end stiffness in sprints and under hard cornering. I am tall and heavy 89kg....I believe smaller/lighter guys dont feel any lack of stiffness on R5 front end. My experience. My ride style. Nothing else.

What I am trying to say is that there is no reason to get bellow 1kg unless You as a producer want to sell frames to weightweenies...Marketing guys pushed producers to chase weight. Recently, I have an impression that is getting changed and mass producers are starting to focus more on ride characteristics than weight Example: new Cervelo R5 is heavier than its predecessor by 50 grams.

I am 100KG and there is no way, no way at all that the front end of the R5 VWD has "lack of front end stiffness" in fact I would argue that it's to stiff and that it causes the bike to "bounce" around a bit more than I would like...

If you are building anything that is not the borderline of the rules, why are you building it... good enough isn't good acceptaable in this day and age, in fact it's really never really been acceptable if you care ......

"The right leg (fork) is a bit larger with a different structure than that of the left one in an effort to compensate for the asymmetry of forces applied to the bike both during normal use as well as under more extreme circumstances such as sprints or climbs with high gradients."

A not to wild guess is that it's both cheaper and it also translates into less risk of warranty issues building a more heavy frame.It seems it requires lots of more know-how to make it both light, stiff enough and durable.

I wouldn't consider paying that much for a frame that is so heavy as some of the recent bikes that we've seen.If UCI will allow lower weights, all these sales claims will probably take another turn completely.

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