Just an FYI for those who are looking at the D413 as compared to other cars strictly from a price standpoint. Just out of curiosity I tallied a total of what extra items I'd like to have if I included aftermarket parts. Which generally means

When you total it up + cost of the kit, you are approaching some of the "high dollar" cars such as the Kyosho RB6..etc. It kind of evens out the playing field at that point from a cost standpoint. So you know.

Im not sure what my point is other than I was hoping this car would save me a few bucks here and there. And to be fair, I think the car handles fine without all that stuff. I just feel like the after market stuff is there for a reason and sometimes you feel compelled to try it as a result. That said, I am going to try as hard as I can to keep the car bone stock (other than setup stuff like springs/pistons) and see if I can get to the top of the A at my club. So far, the car is about a half a second off pace from the fast guys

Just an FYI for those who are looking at the D413 as compared to other cars strictly from a price standpoint. Just out of curiosity I tallied a total of what extra items I'd like to have if I included aftermarket parts. Which generally means

When you total it up + cost of the kit, you are approaching some of the "high dollar" cars such as the Kyosho RB6..etc. It kind of evens out the playing field at that point from a cost standpoint. So you know.

Im not sure what my point is other than I was hoping this car would save me a few bucks here and there. And to be fair, I think the car handles fine without all that stuff. I just feel like the after market stuff is there for a reason and sometimes you feel compelled to try it as a result. That said, I am going to try as hard as I can to keep the car bone stock (other than setup stuff like springs/pistons) and see if I can get to the top of the A at my club. So far, the car is about a half a second off pace from the fast guys

lol, I save a ton of money by not breaking. This car is a "beast" of durability. Plus, the front end does not dig in an lawn dart as much as other models. I have seen other wheelers literally get stuck on the track.

Just an FYI for those who are looking at the D413 as compared to other cars strictly from a price standpoint. Just out of curiosity I tallied a total of what extra items I'd like to have if I included aftermarket parts. Which generally means

When you total it up + cost of the kit, you are approaching some of the "high dollar" cars such as the Kyosho RB6..etc. It kind of evens out the playing field at that point from a cost standpoint. So you know.

Im not sure what my point is other than I was hoping this car would save me a few bucks here and there. And to be fair, I think the car handles fine without all that stuff. I just feel like the after market stuff is there for a reason and sometimes you feel compelled to try it as a result. That said, I am going to try as hard as I can to keep the car bone stock (other than setup stuff like springs/pistons) and see if I can get to the top of the A at my club. So far, the car is about a half a second off pace from the fast guys

I have found the car to be very sensitive to dif fluids and ride height. I also did not care for the sway bars unless of course you are on very high bite or carpet.

I am going to try the D413 FOR THE FIRST TIME Friday. I took the day off from work to attend a race at Beach Hobbies (Myrtle Beach SC) for the opening of their new indoor track. It's a little over 3 hours drive, but I will be leaving early Friday to get a full day of practice in (10A-8P) and then race on Saturday.

TBH I have enjoyed running my 22-4 so much thus far that I haven't made it a priority to try the HB wheeler yet.

Sooo I'm a TLR guys, probably not going to change but I drove my buddies car the other day after he built it. Honesty, this car could have been the easiest wheeler that I have driven on our track. I can drive my 22-4 but there is no doubt that I could drive the 413 just as fast and had more fun. Maybe if I find the right deal I'll put one of these in the stable one day. Just wanted everyone to hear my opinion because I'm pushy like that. LOL

lol, I save a ton of money by not breaking. This car is a "beast" of durability. Plus, the front end does not dig in an lawn dart as much as other models. I have seen other wheelers literally get stuck on the track.

+1 you can spend more money on setup on this car since you are seldom shelling out mount for spares it seems. I mostly have to watch out for the occasional screw trying to back out.

+1 you can spend more money on setup on this car since you are seldom shelling out mount for spares it seems. I mostly have to watch out for the occasional screw trying to back out.

Just loctite metal to metal. I tore the car down this weekend to redo my diffs and put the alum chassis on. I had several loose screws that where hidden with my chassis protector. I just redid the locktite. These days I find chassis protector to be extremely annoying. The kit chassis is like $129, so i wanted to protect it. But the avid is only $55. I would probably spend that on chassis protectors in a year. On the up side, the screw cant call out with the protector, lol. but then it makes it a pain to re-tighten them more often.

yeah I locktite metal to metal. its mostly the plastic bits that like to back out like on the bottom of shocks. its rare though.

I did however have a screw come out of one of the steering post and I lost the metal spacer there. I know everyone recommends med strength thread lock but I like using purple(low strength) on my 1/10 stuff so I don't strip hexes but I went back with medium there just in case.

yeah I locktite metal to metal. its mostly the plastic bits that like to back out like on the bottom of shocks. its rare though.

I did however have a screw come out of one of the steering post and I lost the metal spacer there. I know everyone recommends med strength thread lock but I like using purple(low strength) on my 1/10 stuff so I don't strip hexes but I went back with medium there just in case.

on another note. im loving the sworkz wing.

Yeah, one of the things I do dislike about this car is working on it. The orange washers on top of the steering posts like to fall on the floor when I am working on it. I spend more time on the floor with a flashlight looking for washers. For the lower shock mounts, I used a slightly longer screw to give it more bite.