Ted Stevens’ Trial…Closing Arguments Begin.

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We’ve heard about massage chairs, sled dog puppies, and giant black furniture. We’ve heard from contractors, and former best friends, and Mrs. Stevens. We’ve been regaled with stories of male-bonding and wine drinking for weight loss in the desert Southwest. I refer, of course, to the Ted Stevens trial. All in all the trial has been very….Alaskan. Stevens faces seven felony counts of failure to disclose gifts on his Senate Financial Disclosure Forms.

Today is the day closing arguments begin, and the prosecution is presenting its case right now. By tomorrow, the jury deliberations will have started.

WASHINGTON – As prosecutors made their final argument Tuesday to jurors in Sen. Ted Stevens’ corruption case, they replayed a now-infamous recording of the senator, who told a close friend that the worst that could ever happen to him as a result of a federal investigation would be a little jail time, or perhaps excessive legal bills.

“Does that sound like someone who really believes he didn’t do something wrong?” asked prosecutor Joseph Bottini, an assistant U.S. Attorney from Anchorage who delivered closing arguments for the Justice Department this morning.

[snip]

Some of those things Stevens was given were smaller than others, Bottini acknowledged, such as a stained glass window and a generator. But none of those items were ever disclosed as gifts on his financial disclosure forms, Bottini said.

And “how he treats these smaller items speaks volumes about how he intended to treat the bigger ticket items, like the home remodel,” Bottini said.

His attitude was clear when he tried to figure out how to disclose the value of a sled dog his friends bought him at a charity auction, Bottini said. Stevens, in asking about the dog, wrote an e-mail describing the disclosure requirements as a “GD” disclosure form.

“He calls it his, pardon me, his “God Damn” disclosure form,” Bottini said. “That pretty much sums up his attitude. He’s not above the law and he can’t evade it simply because he doesn’t like it.”

Alaskans are sitting on the edge of their seats. The one furthest on the edge? Other than Ted himself, it’s probably Anchorage Mayor, and Stevens’ Democratic rival for the senate seat, Mark Begich. An acquittal for Stevens makes his job a lot more daunting.

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Bea(09:13:56) :

AKM, you’re up mighty early today, no?

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Bea(09:14:29) :

Have you all read the op ed that got Joe Klein kicked off the Straight Smacktalk Express?:

John McCain had a fabulously loony weekend, flipping out charges and attacks like a mud tornado. The truly remarkable thing about McCain’s attacks, especially on Obama’s economic policies, is that McCain, in each case, is “guilty” of supporting some version of the policies he’s attacking:

John McCain had a fabulously loony weekend, flipping out charges and attacks like a mud tornado. The truly remarkable thing about McCain’s attacks, especially on Obama’s economic policies, is that McCain, in each case, is “guilty” of supporting some version of the policies he’s attacking:

Fingers crossed. No acquittal. Mind you, I wouldn’t mind getting a present of a generator before winter and power outages set in.

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Anonymous(09:17:50) :

May justice be served

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InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor(09:19:10) :

Oy, I just can’t wait for this whole fiasco to be OVER!

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Joe and Heather Linwood nj(09:23:33) :

Calling all!!!
We have to do something about Rush Limbaugh. I have called the advertisers and his radio station to complain about this hateful man on radio. A man who was on prescription DRUGS..Still is if you ask me.
A man who is hateful and UNAMERICAN.
Please join with us and friends…..Just like the repulbicans right wing base have done in the past…Let our voices be heard we will not stand for this.
Rush again said Powell endorsement was based on RAce…He screamed it into his microphone..Well Rush guess what? As you sit in your mansions with your big fat cigar you will have to deal with us now.
We are many in numbers…Here is the information from his website..Please leave a comment to any suggestions to get rid of this guy from the airwaves. We have to fight back, because he doesn’t think we will.
To become an advertiser on The Rush Limbaugh Show contact:
Dan Metter, Senior Vice President, Talk Radio Sales
By Phone: 646-530-8606
E-mail: talkradiosales@premiereradio.com

The Rush Limbaugh Show is the most listened to radio talk show in America, broadcast on over 600 radio stations nationwide. It is hosted by America’s Anchorman, Rush Limbaugh, also known as: America’s Truth Detector; the Doctor of Democracy; the Most Dangerous Man in America; the All-Knowing, All-Sensing, All-Everything Maha Rushie; defender of motherhood, protector of fatherhood and an all-around good guy.

There is a “consensus” among the American people, who have made this the most listened to program, that it is also the most accurate, most right, and most correct.
People who disagree with this are Rush Deniers.

You can call The Rush Limbaugh Show program line
between 12 Noon and 3PM Eastern Time at: 1-800-282-2882

Thank you Joe and Heather from NJ. I will get some friends together and we will start calling and writing to his advertisers. One is GM who advertises on his website. I will leave an update and let you know how we are coming along.
Joe and Heather is right we need to fight back to this hate. We cannot allow the bullies to win anymore. People like Sean Hannity, Elisabeth Hasselbeck, Ann coulter, Laura Ingram, Rush Limbaugh, and I can’t believe I am about to say Greta Van Sustren do not think there will be a backlash to the lies and hate they are spreading.
Thanks for the numbers.

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Grace L.(09:27:32) :

Rush watch out here we come!!!

\Thanks for the numbers.
Good Luck guys
Grace

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Bea(09:28:12) :

OOOPS! Sorry for my double post above… I thought it wasn’t liking my linky + HTML combo and so tried to modify. Now both are here and I feel silly. 😦

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Frank(09:29:56) :

J & H,
I think this is brilliant. I hope we can get enough people together to make a difference. Rush L. is an asshole. He needs a good kickin’
I can’t believe people really listen to the Oxy Cotton Drug dealin’ pill poppin jerk.
My wife and I are calling now.

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Bea(09:31:15) :

Here’s a (LONG) list of Limbaugh’s advertisers with contact info. They tend to give namby-pamby “We advertise lots of places” answers when called about OxyRush, but his latest is REALLY over the line racism, so maybe they’ll listen this time:

Joe and Heather from Linwood,
You make a good point, we need to do something about this man. I found is strange that Imus in the morning would be fired for his remarks. Rush L. is 100% worse than Imus. Rush has not been called out on ONE hateful remark he had said. It is just shocking.
The problem is democrats appologize for saying offense remarks. No Rush, Sean and the others stand by the hate and NO ONE calls them on it.
Well count me in. I think this cause is worth the fight. We need to contact News Media’s as well. Lets do something together in numbers.
like Oprah said we need an Army of mothers
Well we need an Army of Americans to go after this one. He’s a big one too.
Rachel

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Joe and Heather Linwood NJ(09:35:01) :

Please if anyone has suggestions let us know. We are really furious over this man who is paid millions of dollars to spread hateful remarks of others.
Please Please Please keep us updated on your progress.
Thank You,
Joe and Heather

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Joe and Heather Linwood NJ(09:36:06) :

Bea,
You are the Best
Thank You we will start contacting them.
I own my own business so I will let that be known as well.
Joe and Heather
Big Hug to BEA

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Ripley_6 AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT(09:37:54) :

Oh please oh please let him go down in a mess of messiness…. you-know-who and her husband are NEXT!!! Oh, the humanity!

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InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor(09:41:11) :

@Ripley_6 AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT (09:37:54) :

Ooo, happy to find you again. I left a pie message for you at the end of the “The Dangerous Fantasy of ACORN and “Vote Fraud”” thread that I’m not sure you ever saw. Please go back and find it when you have a chance. Pie, pie, pie, pie…

to everyone else–my apologies for the distraction!

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ira2(09:45:16) :

Heh. Stevens could have asked the public assistance people what a sled dog is worth. They know. They told me in AZ that every one of my 12 hens counts as a $5 asset, and wouldn’t they count sled dogs as livestock up in AK?

‘Course knowing takes away the option of claiming ignorance, so he wouldn’t have gone that far for the sake of honesty.

What happened to the puppy? Did he keep it? Does he hate it like he hates the furniture?

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Krystal(09:47:13) :

Moron alert, moron alert: That Palin, what will we do without her to laugh at. I think I will survive:

Mudpuppies. all I can say (unless the advertiser can be influenced) is that there is no hope of Rush (or Sean, or Bill or Ann, Laura, or any of the other mouthpieces) shutting up. They feel it is their doG given right to speak as they do…they WANT to po us liberals. They feel that they are superior because they are rude and unrepentant.

Liberals are always at a disadvantage simply because our philosophy starts with being non (or at least way less) judgmental. If they want to be bible thumping throwbacks to the middle ages, as long as they don’t hurt us or ours, we grant them that. THEY don’t believe we should be able to believe as we do. There in lies the rub.

I saw a great t-shirt the other day. It said “You can have your “UNDER GOD” back when I get my “LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.”

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Taupe Armageddon Palin(09:49:16) :

on Rush — been trying to call in, busy signals always. thanks for the phone numbers on his advertisers, will start calling them.

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WV Democrat(09:51:58) :

@ Joe and Heather Linwood nj

No good to call the show. You’ll just be laughed at by Rush and his producers blowing hot air. Best to listen and write down all advertisers, national AND local. Start with your local ones. Tell them if they continue to advertise on the Rush show you will no longer patronize their business and will urge all your friends to boycott them as well. Then start a letter writing campaign to the national ones public relations departments. If you have need of help getting the addys for any of them, email me at sosueme2006@yahoo.com.

I spent 28 years in the radio biz and sold local, regional, and national accounts. Most would not advertise in “contentious” or “inflammatory” programming and many advertising agencies considered Rush to be both. Local direct advertisers on the whole don’t know any better and/or are just in the show as part of an ROS schedule. Start with your locals. Remember however that Clear Channel owns Premiere Radio Networks on which Rush’s show airs. In July of this year they gave Limbag a new multi-year contract extension worth a reported $400 million. They will stand by that so the only way to hurt them is to boycott [b]all advertisers on all Clear Channel stations and let the advertisers know why[/b].

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WV Democrat(09:52:34) :

@ Joe and Heather Linwood nj

No good to call the show. You’ll just be laughed at by Rush and his producers blowing hot air. Best to listen and write down all advertisers, national AND local. Start with your local ones. Tell them if they continue to advertise on the Rush show you will no longer patronize their business and will urge all your friends to boycott them as well. Then start a letter writing campaign to the national ones public relations departments. If you have need of help getting the addys for any of them, email me at sosueme2006@yahoo.com.

I spent 28 years in the radio biz and sold local, regional, and national accounts. Most would not advertise in “contentious” or “inflammatory” programming and many advertising agencies considered Rush to be both. Local direct advertisers on the whole don’t know any better and/or are just in the show as part of an ROS schedule. Start with your locals. Remember however that Clear Channel owns Premiere Radio Networks on which Rush’s show airs. In July of this year they gave Limbag a new multi-year contract extension worth a reported $400 million. They will stand by that so the only way to hurt them is to boycott all advertisers on all Clear Channel stations and let the advertisers know why.

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WV Democrat(09:53:07) :

Oops! How did that post twice?

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suchanut(09:56:21) :

Krystal (09:47:13) :

Moron alert, moron alert: That Palin, what will we do without her to laugh at. I think I will survive:

This is the email I am sending to all of the advertisers listed:
I am a long-time user of hotwire.com and am writing to inform you that I will no longer support any business that advertises on radio programs that preach racism, hatred, bigotry or uses divisive language.

The Rush Limbaugh show stepped over every one of those lines with his denouncement of Gen. Colin Powell. This country does not need that kind of talk and I don’t need to support businesses that endorse his tactics.

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Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(09:57:37) :

Obama is definitely STILL asking for donations. In fact, he is saying it is more important than ever. Copied some of campaign email below.
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You can decide where we fight — and how strong our team will be.

On Friday morning, we have to make the final, hard decisions about deploying our resources.

Your support before midnight on Thursday will determine how hard we can fight — and if we can expand our operation into newly competitive states.

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Ripley_6 AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT(09:58:45) :

InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor (09:41:11) : Awwww… ain’t you jes’ the sweetest thing!!! I agree that the crust makes the pie… I doubt I’ll be heading out to Juneau any time soon, and this economy hurts any chance for a free ticket for you, but you can shor send me your apply pie recipe!!! ripley_6@yahoo.com It’s apple season here! WOOT

Thanks for the thought! Who knew I’d have a friend in Alaska!!!

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InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor(10:03:51) :

@suchanut (09:56:21) :

Remember, she only got elected by a plurality of the votes, not a majority (there having been two solid candidates and her in the race), so it’s not like even half of us wanted her…

suchanut (09:56:21) :
I still can’t believe the people in this state voted her into office.
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I am not blaming any Alaskan who voted for Palin. She presented herself much more credibly in the Alaskan elections. What has come out since simply shows who she is. The Alaskan electorate could not have predicted the disparity between what Palin said she was going to do and what she did.

Compassionate Conservative ring a bell for anyone?

I am just grateful to Alaskans for exposing Palin BEFORE she was able to achieve national office.

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InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor(10:05:55) :

@Ripley_6 AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT (09:58:45) :

Hey, we’re ALL friends here (excepting maybe the trolls). I’ll get that off to you, but remember, you have to have “the touch” to make the crust perfect…

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knikgoose HUSSEIN!! justaskin(10:09:24) :

The Ayatollah Palin is hell-bent on having a dictatorship. I’m sure she has no clue what democracy means, let alone socialism.
I say, when this is over, we all haul our butts up to Ak, park ourselves on her office steps until she resigns and make her move to some place in far rural Alaska where she can shoot things and lie to the trees all she wants..
and maybe learn how to respect the people.

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Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(10:09:25) :

InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor (10:05:55) :

@Ripley_6 AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT (09:58:45) :

remember, you have to have “the touch” to make the crust perfect…
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Ain’t that the truth. Pie crust is tricky. I have to work like the dickens to get them home safe and whole–from the frozen food section!

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InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor(10:10:44) :

@Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca (10:09:25) :

Ooo, you’re a funny one. Yeah, you have to be careful not to drop those; that would be the end of a good crust!

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Ripley_6 AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT(10:10:59) :

WV Democrat (09:53:07) :

Oops! How did that post twice?

You know what? I rad it twice, too! didn’t even realize till very late that I was reading the same thing…… I think my brains are beginning to scramble!! LOL

InJuneau, I use 2 butter knives to cut in the shortening when I make crust. I find the key is barely touching it with your hands.

Tune in next time for “Tarts and pastry with Ripley!”

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Ripley_6 AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT(10:11:53) :

Ok “READ” not rad… see?

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Susan, WA(10:12:18) :

WOW Bea!! Thanks for all the info about the advertisers. I’ll be busy.
I also sent a ‘get-well’ ‘hope you get to see your grandson inaugurated’ card
to Obama’s ‘Toot’. Thanks also to Mudpuppies who forwarded the address.

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InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor(10:14:34) :

@Ripley_6 AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT (10:10:59) :

I use a pastry cutter and lard and ice water (and a secret ingredient), but you’re right about the minimal hand contact.

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pj(10:16:56) :

@ Krystal you beat me to the posting…and that question came from a 3rd grader I believe!
I certainly don’t want any of my grandchildren learning civics from “that woman”

PS hello all, hope your day is a wonderful one🙂

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Tom from PA(10:22:41) :

Barack’s visit to Hawaii to see his ailing grandmother should have very little impact on the election. I just heard that he cancelled stops in Wisconsin and Iowa to be there. I believe that McCain has all but pulled out of both states.

It was Hillary’s path to the Presidency. It would gain Palin experience on the national level. Steven’s chair is potentially opening. She still has 64% approval in AK, and her (and I apologize) ethics problems may not be enough to sway voters there.

If not AK…ID? She’s from here, I believe, and went to college here — three times, I think.

Maybe in a couple of years, after some intensive coaching on how to answer press questions?

I hope to by-God not, but….

I guess the upshot is: has she become too tarnished to succeed on a national level? I’m pretty sure she’s unrepentant enough to try again. (Which is amusing to me — a Christianist who’s unrepentant. Plank, meet eye; eye, plank.)

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Forty Watt Hussein(10:23:53) :

Thanks Joe and Heather from Linwood. I’m on it too.

You what else gets to me? Rush, Hannity et al. make millions of dollars. What does that say about our priorities?

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BigPete(10:24:48) :

What a shock…….I went to vote (Florida), and the lines were so long that I had to Quit! Apparently the ‘Socialist, Joe the Communist’ element of our Great Nation, have spent the last 4 yrs. (or is it the last 8) “counting the days”, and are out in force because they can’t vote SOON ENOUGH. I was advised to try again at the end of next week, when the Real Americans venture out to vote, and it’s not so busy.

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kidsquid(10:25:52) :

When do we think SP will turn over the secret e-mails?

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BigPete(10:27:34) :

Does a 8) make a smiley face?

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lovethecountry AKA Rust Mustang 'THAT ONE HUSSEIN'(10:30:52) :

Oyyyy

Palin after these many months still doesn’t know what a VP does. VP is in-charge of senate??

I’ve got an idea to waste away the time (not that any time spent here is wasted!; ‘ ))
as we wait to see if Uncle Ted is convicted or not.

Think up a new, exciting name for Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport–I seriously doubt they’d want to keep the name.

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Joe and Heather Linwood NJ(10:37:07) :

You guys are great. Thank you for all the information. We will start with our local advertisers. To WV Democrat thank you. 400 million dollars I guess Hate does pay? 100 million contract to Sean Hannity and a 4 year multimillion deal from Fox News.
This just makes me furious. Please any other suggestions let us know.
To WV I have a question who owns clear channel? How can we fight back. Please if we are wasting our time let me know so we can work on something else.
Thanks to all of you,
Joe and Heather

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Joe and Heather Linwood NJ(10:37:33) :

One more question Why won’t Palin release her medical records?

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madmatriarch(10:38:07) :

Slight digression to educate this oldtimer. What is the meaning of pie as in “I left a pie message for you.” I see this word used repeatedly in DailyKos but I’ve never figured out how to write to them. The only pie I ever knew was cherry or apple.

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shoeho(10:38:18) :

Oh, yeah, Big Pete, later in the week or next week for sure. I’m in FL too, and I have a poll sitting/watching shift next Friday. I’m hearing the lines are long and the talking Democratic.

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Sophie VT(10:38:36) :

Will they release the results from the early voting?
Just curious.

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Sophie VT(10:39:20) :

Big Pete,
Is the turnout in Florida republican or democrat?

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shoeho(10:39:55) :

Doubtful.

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Ripley_6 AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT(10:40:05) :

Ok, back on topic…..

How long do you think it will take for a verdict? And then how long till we know the punishment? Assuming there will be punishment. I would also like to reiterate that this trial portends mightily on SWWNBN’s own gift registry….If they acquit Stevens, she’s going to think she got away with her Housegate, et al….. to that I say, “Not so fast there, Missy!”

I find it so amusing that Stevens said he assumed his wife paid all those bills for stuff….then he gets caught in a recorded call talking about his punishment when or if he gets caught taking stuff without paying…

Good thing we all know here in this AKM blog that not all Alaskans are dirty, filthy liars. Thank goodness! And we know that Brian would NEVER lie!!!

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Grammy aka Commando Coalfire Palin(10:40:36) :

Did anyone run Ted Stevens through the baby name generator? Perhaps that could be the new airport name.

But, I think they should pick a name from Territorial Days like Ernest Gruening Airport or William Egan Airport.

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Ripley_6 AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT(10:41:34) :

madmatriarch (10:38:07) HAHAHAH!!!! No no no.. that was REAL PIE we were referring to!!! Apple pie, to be exact!!! LOL

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Grammy aka Commando Coalfire Palin(10:41:54) :

Did anyone run Ted Stevens through the baby name generator? Perhaps that could be the new airport name.

But, I think they should pick a name from Territorial Days like Ernest Gruening Airport or William Egan Airport.

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shoeho(10:42:18) :

Sophie VT–duh, that was supposed to be “doubtful” they will release a breakdown of the early voters. I don’t even know if they can.

FL is a weird state, as some areas are very blue, some very red. I’m guessing many of the early voters are blue, though. The “reds” don’ t have that much enthusiasm down here–also, we have no other “big” races, no Senate or Gov, just House and state offices. Not a lot to get excited about if you are an R.

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shoeho(10:44:31) :

LOL, this is too good.

Ted’s Palin name is Trowell Ogre Palin!

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Grammy aka Commando Coalfire Palin(10:45:20) :

Shoeho,

I LOVE IT, perfect name for an Alaska Airport!!

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Grammy aka Commando Coalfire Palin(10:48:14) :

Who selects a name for airports anyway? Maybe they could have a contest – or maybe Mudflats could have a contest separate from the blog?

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JT(10:51:36) :

This morning (or was it last night?) one of the news programs was playing bits of speeches by Cindy McCain, and Michelle Obama.

They replayed Michelle’s infamous words stating it was the first time in her adult life that she was proud of America.

This was juxtaposed with Cindy saying smugly “I have always been proud of America”.

I thought, well Duhhh….you were born a privileged little rich white girl, with millions and millions….

The fact that so many white Americans (and remember, I am white and my ancestors were plantation slave owners) can’t empathize with Black Americans, and try to appreciate how their life in America was far different than that of a white American.

Had Michelle said she had always been proud of America, I would have thought she was a liar.

I simply don’t get it.

I love my Country, but that does not mean I have to always be proud of it.

To me, my country is like a family. And in many ways, that African American was like the abused child. Abuse cycles can be passed from generation to generation, but with lots of work, and education, the cycle can be broken.

Should we fault that abused child for admitting they weren’t always happy or proud of their family?? We should rejoice that the child (and family) has come to a point in time where there is pride. It shows progress and hope.

That abused child (who admits things were not always perfect) is no less entitled than other members of the family.

Shame on Cindy McCain for making such an ignorant jab, which clearly was intended to slam Michelle. She said it not as a simple statement, but with a smug little twist, clearly aimed at Michelle. It shows again, how the McCain machine is clueless about those who are not “like them”.

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A Brit abroad aka Flag Hussein "That One" Cobra(10:53:45) :

Oh, I missed you lot – my Internet connection has been blinking on and off like a winkin’ blinkin’ thing so I’ve been Mudflats deprived, mostly, also.

If it gets called Trowell Ogre Airport I’m coming just to have my picture taken in front of it!!!!

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upnorth minnesota hose Hussein hotrod(10:56:16) :

Hose hotrod, hear. See, I told you I wouldn’t be able to go cold turkey today!

In addition to calling advertizers for the Limbaugh show, start boycotting and encouraging others to boycott their products: Boze speakers, Selectnumber beds, etc. Hit ’em where it hurts. If you blog or have blogging friends, spread the word that way…or write a letter to the editor of your local paper encouraging others to join you in boycotting products whose companies fund such crap.

madmatriarch (10:38:07) HAHAHAH!!!! No no no.. that was REAL PIE we were referring to!!! Apple pie, to be exact!!! LOL

Ripley, thank you for clearing that up for madmatriarch. I was just about to do so myself.

madmartiarch–we often get so distracted here, and there are so many threads and messages, that we confuse ourselves and everyone else. Apologies for the distraction (and if you really want to devolve into the discussions about pies (apple, cherry, sweet potato, pecan, and others), hop on back a few threads and see how we got into such silliness!

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Forty Watt Hussein(11:03:38) :

upnorth minnesota hose Hussein hotrod, every time I read one of your posts signed “hHh” my brain registers it as Hubert Horatio Humphrey. From where I stand, that’s a compliment, albeit one that ages me!

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suchanut(11:05:19) :

40Watt – I see the same thing- older than dirt, we are, older than dirt!🙂

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Forty Watt Hussein(11:07:15) :

Nothing like a good bit of healthy dirt! suchanut

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Goalie Sanka Palin in NM(11:07:39) :

QUESTION ALERT….QUESTION ALERT…….

Mudflatters…what’s the prevailing mood regarding Ted? Does anyone have a feel for what the jury might decide? Does it appear as if he has a good chance for aquittal?

I sure hope he goes down in flames! Also, does there appear to be a Palin HouseGate inquiry?

Subject change….Sara Palin if you remember made that dangerous comment during the debate with Biden (to paraphrase) regarding the Constitution giving the VP the right to expand the existing VP role – thereby taking a more visble role as head of the senate. Truly she may not know what the duties of the VP actually are….just what she wants them to be! Thank goodness she is not going to get the chance in this election!

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upnorth minnesota hose Hussein hotrod(11:10:41) :

Et tu Kentucky?? Could it go blue?? This from huffpo. (And I have a good friend in Lexington area who says loads of McCain signs are being replaced with Obama signs. Go figure.)
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A new poll shows that with just two weeks to go until election day, incumbent Republican Mitch McConnell and Democrat Bruce Lunsford are tied in the U.S. Senate race.

According to the Survey USA poll conducted for LEX 18, both McConnell and Lunsford have 48 percent of the vote. Back in August, McConnell lead by 12 percent.

The margin of error for the current poll is plus or minus 4.3%.

The poll also shows a narrowing lead for John McCain over Barack Obama in the state in the presidental race. McCain leads Obama 54-41%. McCain has dropped three points since the last poll, and Obama is up three points. There is a 2.5% margin of error.

hHh

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upnorth minnesota hose Hussein hotrod(11:13:25) :

Forty Watt— yes, I know… I think I may have even mentioned how honored I felt about it lo so many posts ago. Thanks for noticing. Now there was a guy who called a spade a spade, no?

In other news: Et tu Kentucky?? Could it go blue?? This from huffpo. (And I have a good friend in Lexington area who says loads of McCain signs are being replaced with Obama signs. Go figure.)
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A new poll shows that with just two weeks to go until election day, incumbent Republican Mitch McConnell and Democrat Bruce Lunsford are tied in the U.S. Senate race.

According to the Survey USA poll conducted for LEX 18, both McConnell and Lunsford have 48 percent of the vote. Back in August, McConnell lead by 12 percent.

The margin of error for the current poll is plus or minus 4.3%.

The poll also shows a narrowing lead for John McCain over Barack Obama in the state in the presidental race. McCain leads Obama 54-41%. McCain has dropped three points since the last poll, and Obama is up three points. There is a 2.5% margin of error.

hHh

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SMR(11:15:25) :

I don’t think anyone should get too excited about the tape recorded conversation. I’ve never listened to it, but my mother, who is NOT a fan of our fine senator, said that after listening to it she was completely unimpressed. She said that the conversation could have been about anyone, that it was not clear at all that he was talking about himself or Bill Allen even. And given the fact that the prosecution has completely flubbed on so many occasions, I would not be so sure that they’ve produced any smoking guns or nails for his coffin.

Don’t get your hopes up.

The really sad thing about it is that even though he is being prosecuted for crimes, he is still leading Mark Begich in the polls. Says a WHOLE LOT about Alaska (even more than the election of Bible Spice as gov).

I have to say that when I lived in Girdwood (where the house in question is) for a few years I do not recall him being there above a couple of times. And since my ex’s family is close to his family (marriage!), we’d have heard about it. It does not surprise me a bit when he says he had no idea what was going on there. It does suprise me more that his wife, who may be a bit of a control freak, says that she didn’t know.

I’m not a Ted fan or supporter, but just giving my perspective, as I see that this post by AKM has given some of us hope. But really I’ve not much faith in the prosecution, and am assuming that his attorneys are all top-notch. I’m also operating under the assumption that he can only be considered guilty if there is no reasonable doubt that he is NOT, and I don’t think that’s the case here.

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upnorth minnesota hose Hussein hotrod(11:16:13) :

Forty Watt— yes, I know… I think I may have even mentioned how honored I felt that my new initials were the same as Hubert H. Humphrey’s lo so many posts ago. Thanks for noticing. Now there was a guy who called a spade a spade, no?

In other news: Et tu Kentucky?? Could it go blue?? (And I have a good friend in Lexington area who says loads of McCain signs are being replaced with Obama signs. Go figure.)

Palin still doesn’t know what the VP does. Any humble person, after making the mistake in front of the whole nation would have gone and looked it up, asked questions. Not her. It just goes to show how ignorant she is and how satisfied with herself she is – she really doesn’t know how ignorant she is, she doesn’t know that she doesn’t know. Ignorance truly is bliss!

About Rush – there is a reason he makes millions – because there is a big enough audience out there that loves him, hangs on every word, eats everything up! They all think like he does! I would assume that anyone who advertises during his show thinks like he does too, and is going to be thrilled that he has drawn such attention – more people to hear those advertisements! And anyway – we are only the scum liberal (anti-American) crowd who don’t count anyway. Right?

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Forty Watt Hussein(11:18:26) :

Turns out if Sarah Palin was Sarah Palin’s baby (look, most of what she’s had to say is just as daft), her name would be Mullet Troll Palin.

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WV Democrat(11:19:14) :

@Joe and Heather Linwood NJ (10:37:07) :

You guys are great. Thank you for all the information. We will start with our local advertisers. To WV Democrat thank you. 400 million dollars I guess Hate does pay? 100 million contract to Sean Hannity and a 4 year multimillion deal from Fox News.
This just makes me furious. Please any other suggestions let us know.
To WV I have a question who owns clear channel? How can we fight back. Please if we are wasting our time let me know so we can work on something else.
Thanks to all of you,
Joe and Heather

They are hated far and wide among radio professionals. There used to be a website called Clearchannelsucks.com that was started and maintained by large groups of ex-Clear Channel employees. We used to call them Cheap Channel amongst other names. They used to have what they called Station Clusters. I’m sure you can guess what we called it when things didn’t go so well…

I also want to know. My absentee ballot is cast in Brevard County – where are you other Floridians from?

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upnorth minnesota hose Hussein hotrod(11:22:54) :

From Andrew Sullivan:
Another who calls a spade a spade:David Sedaris thinks out loud about the choice independents have in this election:

To put them in perspective, I think of being on an airplane. The flight attendant comes down the aisle with her food cart and, eventually, parks it beside my seat. “Can I interest you in the chicken?” she asks. “Or would you prefer the platter of shit with bits of broken glass in it?”

Is a gift not a gift when it is unwanted and unasked for? That appears to be Stevens’ defense in this case.

Most gifts to anyone from anyone are unasked for and many are unwanted. That something is received unasked for almost defines a gift it seems to me. And because the item was wanted or not wanted should not really matter. If the gift being wanted were the defining characteristic of a gift, would any politician report anything ever given to them?

It’s the responsibility of public servants to keep track of their gifts and avoid conflicts of interest. That would be particularly true when oil executives are involved one might think.

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Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA(11:23:30) :

On a happy note, 270 to win just put Virginia in the firmly blue column, adding 13 evs to the dems column making it 277 evs for the D’s. I know, don’t count our chickens but these things just cheer me up.

Shame shame..to the sponsors of McCain’s rally…desecrating the symbol of small, large and in-between Americans..

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C.Rock(11:29:59) :

Talk on AIP is On CNN right

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Laurie(11:31:01) :

@in juneau…you dont have to answer…but is your secret vinegar? I use just a wee bit for my pie crust, and I also use a pastry cutter and cold water. Works great. Too much handling is definitely bad for pie crust.

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WV Democrat(11:31:29) :

About that Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport…remember when Congressman Bob Ney of Ohio, was sentenced to 30 months in prison for accepting bribes? Well…Ohio University officials decided to remove Congressman Ney’s name from the school’s gynasium on their OU Eastern campus that had been named after him.

One thing Cindy McCain is not proud of is having an older half-sister who was strategically shut out of their father’s will through Cindy and her mother’s machinations when daddy was too sick to object. Cindy does not even acknowledge that she exists even though they live less than 20 miles apart. She is a cold, heartless human being.

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Laurie(11:37:20) :

Re: Cindy McCain. Were it not for the fact that her darling hubby is running for the presidency…I would doubt she EVER considered her country or her countrymen in any way shape or form.

I watch her in the background at McCains speeches…and she looks bored to tears. I would bet my last dollar she is taking drugs again. She looks awful…and I wonder how she feels playing second fiddle to Ms Wasilla

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Goalie Sanka Palin in NM(11:37:58) :

In NM we just had a former Senate Majority leader admit to mail fraud in a courthouse scandal that has also brought down a former mayor of Albuquerque. There was a tower named for Senator Manny Aragon at our National Hispanic Center and they are convening early next month to discuss the matter of removing his name.

He has not been formally sentenced yet, but has agreed to 67 months in the theft of over 600K of taxpayer money.

If the prosecution hadn’t screwed up so royally so often, I think there would be a very good chance of a guilty verdict. As it is, though, I am not encouraged. Even if he is found guilty, the prosecutions case has left the door open for long and bitter appeals, during which time he will remain free. He’ll most likely never see the inside of a jail cell either way.

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Rope Hoover Palin aka Misfit(11:40:41) :

I must admit I am anxiously awaiting the verdict

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InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor(11:42:23) :

@Laurie (11:31:01) :

Nope, it’s baking powder.

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Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA(11:44:14) :

Laurie,
OT but what kind of vinegar (white)? How much? What does it do for the crust? Always looking to improve my pie crust.

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Rope Hoover aka Misfit(11:46:27) :

YUCK! I finally broke down and put myself through the baby name maker…. I can deal with Rope Hoover, but ‘Palin” has got to go!!!!

Hi all, been forever since I have written, but my sister sent me this email and I thought it was great! I “accidentally” sent it to one of my Repub friends and she tore it apart…kinda funny but take a look — some of you may have seen this but if not, worth sending on to many —

Subject: The Election – What if….
>
> Sometimes the best way to see the flaws in an image is to examine its negative…or reversal…
>
>
> What if the Obamas had paraded five children across the stage, following the debate,
> including a three month-old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter?
>
> What if John McCain was a former president of the Harvard Law Review?
>
> What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his college graduating class?
>
> What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was a divorcee?
>
> What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair while he was still married?
>
> What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to pain killers but also
> acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?
>
> What if Ci ndy McC ain graduated from Harvard?
>
> What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five? (The Keating Five were five
> United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal
> as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s.)
>
> What if Obama couldn’t read from a teleprompter?
>
> What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included
> discipline problems and a record of crashing seven planes?
>
> What if Obama was the one who was known to publicly display a serious
> anger management problem?
>
> What if Michelle Obama’s family had made their money from beer distribution?
>
> You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected a reality, if the tables were
> turned, do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are?
>
> This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes qualities in one candid ate and emphasizes negative characteristics in another when there is a color difference.
>
> And, think of this – the candidates’ educational backgrounds:
>
> Barack Obama:
> Columbia University – B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations.
> Harvard – Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude
>
> Joseph Biden:
> University of Delaware – B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science.
> Syracuse Unive rsity College of Law – Juris Doctor (J.D.)
>
>
> John McCain:
> United States Naval Academy – Class rank: 894 of 899
>
> Sarah Palin: Hawaii Pacific University – 1 semester
> North Idaho College – 2 semesters – general study
> University of Idaho – 2 semesters – journalism
> Matanuska-Susitna College – 1 semester
> University of Idaho – 3 semesters – B.A. in Journalism
>
> Education isn’t everything, but this is about the two highest offices in the land as well as our standing in the world.
>
> You make the call.

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Jamie, Floridian in France(12:03:05) :

Thanks BigPete – but where are you?

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upnorth minnesota hose Hussein hotrod(12:03:10) :

Just FYI: Here’s the note I got back from the West Virginia Secretary of State’s office, elections division. I had sent an email decrying the problems voters were having with the machines recording Obama votes as McCain votes.
—
Thank you for sharing your concerns with our office. We take matters of this nature very seriously. Our office has worked, and continues to work diligently with each county clerk to ensure that procedures are in place to ensure the integrity of West Virginia’s elections.

When we received the report of this issue, we immediately contacted the county clerk and ordered the machines to be checked. We are working closely with the vendor of the equipment (ES&S) and the third party programmer whenever any issues arise with our voting equipment.

We have not found any problems with the programming, and each voter who has called us has been able to have his vote cast as he intended.

Our extensive testing and security measures give us confidence that we will have a fair and clean election.

JUST BACK FROM VOTING ABSENTEE-IN-PERSON (on a lovely paper ballot!!) FOR OBAMA!!

Man, that felt so good!! And I even got an “I Voted” sticker that I am saving to wear on 11/4 when I drive people to the polls!
🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂

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Bea(12:11:37) :

Oh and Nana, I already donated this morning to Obama in response to his email or I would definitely have used your link. Darn!

I was thinking about HIS “Nana” when I clicked the button to confirm my donation, so I hope she felt it in some small way.

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Libby(12:11:58) :

Just wanted to share my Early Voting experience today…

I drove to the early polling place in my area only to find that it is not an “Early Voting” station but an “Advance Voting” station (meaning it doesn’t open until next week). Undeterred, I drove the 15 miles to the center of our county to cast my vote there. The line was really long and they told us it would probably take 2 1/2 hours to get in the building. It took 3 hours. During this time, I met some really nice people and witnessed two poor souls who braved the line only to pass out and be taken away by ambulance. They were OK…just needed to be checked out by a doctor to be sure. I can only hope they will be escorted to the front of the line should they decide to return before Nov.4.

The great news is that there were huge numbers of people in line in an area not known for great voting turn-outs. The other great news was the level of diversity of the voters present. It was great to see that kind of turn-out this early!

I came to Mudflats weeks ago as a curious Independant…living in a staunch Republican family. Some of you have been instrumental in leading me to “do my homework” for this election. Even my Rep hubby is truly thinking this through and cannot support McCain/Palin. AKM et al, THANK YOU!

Obama’s decision to leave the campain trail in order to visit his grandmother was icing on the cake for me…THAT is the kind of man I want leading our country. His heart is in everything he does. We need that in Washington.

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katiebegood(12:12:53) :

Joe and Heather Linwood NJ (10:37:33) :

One more question Why won’t Palin release her medical records?

Because they will show that she didn’t have a baby five months ago?

And to answer the question about announcing early votes…no they won’t do that. They can’t announce any results until after the last precinct votes in the USA.

But, they can get an idea of how people are voting by talking to people in line. And it looks like an Obama Tsunami right now.

Guys, I need help. I think my father is hopelessly lost to Faux News and the hate that McCain/SWWNBN keep putting out. A few days ago, he forwarded me a chain email talking about how “nobody really knows what Obama’s going to do to your taxes, he’ll probably put 60% of you in his 95%”, or something along those lines.
So I replied back from a different email account (anomyously) the next day with a link to Obama’s tax calculator on his site, urging him to go check for himself. This is what I got back, verbatim: “Kiss my a$$ and keep your socialism out of my country!”

Is he hopelessly lost, or can I bring him over in the next two weeks? Am I better off balancing his vote by speaking to my mother?
(BTW – I’m married and my wife and I are both Obama supporters. We’re all in Colorado, and it’s definately going to be close here. Any time we come over to my parent’s house for dinner, my dad “gets sleepy” and goes to bed about 10 minutes before we arrive)

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Jim, aka Pitt Bull Hockey P.(12:24:44) :

I voted in rural Nevada yesterday, and didn’t get a warm fuzzy feeling from everyone in the long line, but I won’t be deterred from volunteering a few more shifts for Obama…

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Joe and Heather Linwood Nj(12:26:46) :

Ok, I hate to do this but I will….
My wife was driving in Northfield NJ next town to us. She saw a Painting company 609-646-7333 with an Obama sign that he wrote in marker: Socialist, Baby killer, Liar, raise taxes Next to that sign was two McCain and Palin signs. WEll I called up and said the following: My wife and I were going to call in for an estimate but due to your sign we will not conduct business with you. We find your sign offensive.
Well we heard an earful from this man: He is from Italy (accent and all) Owns many houses in Boca Raton and I couldn’t understand the rest. Makes over 400,00 a year. Obama is a liar, because he claims he is black and he is NOT. I asked him what is he then sir? HE’S 1/2 WHITE, HE’S NOT EVEN BLACK. OK….
He goes on to say Obama is a socialist, he will destroy this Country.
I hung up Clearly this man is a mental case. But….that being said is why McCain and Palin tactics are dangerous. That is why my wife and I will continue to contact advertisers against Rush L.
So if you like to call go ahead…..

For those of you with a bit of “Obama-cash” you’re not sure what to do with this month, I just got a great email from MoveOn.org about 4 democratic senatorial candidates with a fighting chance to beat incumbents. I just gave and it feels good to work at building a senate majority!

Just think of how good you felt voting – won’t it be grand on November 5 to feel that way all the time?

There was this adorable young gal in line in front of me yesterday and she was really nervous…I asked her if it was her first time, and she said yes, and so I gave her the one minute “this is how it works” – she was very grateful. I said “I am so excited to vote in this election!” and she said “So am I!” And we just looked at each other and both knew without speaking we were both voting for Barack – so we high fived it and hugged!

Well, I’ve been lurking here in the shrubbery at the flats long enough…lurking, listening, laughing and learning. Brian and Brenda seem to really like the pie I’ve been feeding them, so they’ve been quite cordial in allowing me to share in their curiosity. They are so sweet…I just love them! And, they really are way cuter than their pictures!

But, anyway, here goes. I’ll just tap on the window a little bit (tap, tap, tap) and climb right on in. “No, Brenda, you have to stay out here!” Good girl.

There’s no universal meaning of gift Edition . . . 1:07pm: Was it a gift? Was it a loan? In the Stevens’ trial, it all depends on who you talk to.

Stevens talked his way around the fancy massage chair he received from Allen, reported the AP:

He said he considered that chair a loan.

“And the chair is still at your house?” prosecutor Brenda Morris asked.

“Yes,” Stevens said.

“How is that not a gift?”

“He bought that chair as a gift, but I refused it as a gift,” Stevens said. “He put it there and said it was my chair. I told him I would not accept it as a gift. We have lots of things in our house that don’t belong to us.”

Playing to the jury, Morris appeared confused.

“So, if you say it’s not a gift, it’s not a gift?” she said.

“I refused it as a gift,” Stevens replied. “I let him put it in our basement at his request.”

Well, I can relate. I have lots of things at my house, too, that don’t belong to me, either…mostly, in the attic, and it’s stuff my kids left behind when they got married and left home. But, gift or no gift, just don’t ask me to store it in my basement.

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Goalie Sanka Palin in NM(12:42:45) :

TJ (12:20:53)

Maybe this can help..

This is a great site that shows the difference in tax plans, health plans, etc. that give s very good objective overview – side by side – of each of their plans.
Check it out and send it on if you think it will help with your dad and good luck…stay after him. BTW, Romney AND Palin when asked have both said that they would NOT call Obama a Socialist. Also tell him to re-watch Powell’s endorsement – spells out exactly why everyone should support Sen. Obama.

and i can so relate!! unfortunately, in my case, it’s already in the basement…and the crawl space, and the attic, and the garage, and every closet… what’s a mother to do??

hHh

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Sparky(12:45:01) :

A Nana from Alaska (11:38:13) :

Donate to Obama on behalf of Nana, his Nana, all Nanas, and wolf Nanas. Thanks.

Hi Nana…I will. On a similar topic, I received a thank you from Tinklinberg (Bachmann’s opponent) for donating to his campaign…(in your face Bachmann) and last week, got a nice note of thanks from Mr. Begich’s campaign.

Obama/Biden get a donation when an occasion moves me (my birthday today; Palin nominated; worthless over-the-top about Biden’s comment; egregious negativity from McCain/Palin camp…you name it.) Donating in this way always feels good. I feel fortunate that I am able to contribute financially.

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Let'sGetReal for "ThatOne"(12:45:05) :

OK….I”M MAD! I registered my sister and her boyfriend on the voteforchange.com website a few days before the deadline. They just came from the country register office…. No record of them ever registering. I wasted my time, because I completed the online info for 5 people.

I tried to contact someone from the Obama campaign, but they said I need to contact someone in the Houston Campaign office, but there is not number for the office. My sister and her boyfriend are in Brazos county.

I just posted on another blog how cool it would be to confine Palin and family to NYC for four years, with only international travel required, classes at Columbia and then watch her run in four years. Hell, her hairstyle alone wouldn’t know which party to run with.

How long ago did you register them? I don’t have any sources right now, but I know that County Clerks in a lot of areas have been overwhelmed by large numbers of late registrations. It’s entirely possible that their registrations just haven’t been processed yet.

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Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT(12:57:12) :

Happy Birthday Sparky!

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Let'sGetReal for "ThatOne"(12:59:51) :

TJ (12:54:46) :

@ Let’sGetReal for “ThatOne” (12:45:05) :

How long ago did you register them? I don’t have any sources right now, but I know that County Clerks in a lot of areas have been overwhelmed by large numbers of late registrations. It’s entirely possible that their registrations just haven’t been processed yet.

Calling all!!!
We have to do something about Rush Limbaugh. I have called the advertisers and his radio station to complain about this hateful man on radio. A man who was on prescription DRUGS..Still is if you ask me.
A man who is hateful and UNAMERICAN.
Please join with us and friends…..Just like the repulbicans right wing base have done in the past…Let our voices be heard we will not stand for this.
Rush again said Powell endorsement was based on RAce…He screamed it into his microphone..Well Rush guess what? As you sit in your mansions with your big fat cigar you will have to deal with us now.
We are many in numbers…Here is the information from his website..Please leave a comment to any suggestions to get rid of this guy from the airwaves. We have to fight back, because he doesn’t think we will.
To become an advertiser on The Rush Limbaugh Show contact:
Dan Metter, Senior Vice President, Talk Radio Sales
By Phone: 646-530-8606
E-mail: talkradiosales@premiereradio.com

The Rush Limbaugh Show is the most listened to radio talk show in America, broadcast on over 600 radio stations nationwide. It is hosted by America’s Anchorman, Rush Limbaugh, also known as: America’s Truth Detector; the Doctor of Democracy; the Most Dangerous Man in America; the All-Knowing, All-Sensing, All-Everything Maha Rushie; defender of motherhood, protector of fatherhood and an all-around good guy.

There is a “consensus” among the American people, who have made this the most listened to program, that it is also the most accurate, most right, and most correct.
People who disagree with this are Rush Deniers.

You can call The Rush Limbaugh Show program line
between 12 Noon and 3PM Eastern Time at: 1-800-282-2882

Pie crust… hmm… I use real butter first, plus some butter-flavored Crisco (can’t bring myself to use lard), a pastry cutter, and ice-cold water and a little very cold milk. And then rest it in the frig once you get the fat/liquid combined with the flours. Too much handling is the death of a good crust, for sure. Then roll it out between two sheets of waxed paper, so you don’t have to add more than a sprinkle of extra flour to the dough. You should be able to see small blobs of butter/crisco patterned in the dough.

Filling… Granny Smith apples, brown sugar, some white sugar, cinnamon, nutmeg, and a touch of ground cloves. Or allspice. Sprinkle a little dry tapioca granules on the bottom of the lower crust to help soak up the juice. And then dot the apple mix with butter before laying on the top crust and making the neat thumb-press crust seal.. be sure to lay a sheet of tin foil under the pie as it bakes so the juices don’t drip down to the oven bottom!

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Democrat G (formerly "G")(13:03:06) :

The best thing to do to stop Limbaugh is to SERIOUSLY boycott any product by any of his advertisers and let them know that you are boycotting it. Once their sales fall, and continue to fall, or stay DOWN, they will not advertise. Simple economics…..

I want to do this to all REPUBLINAZI companies!

Happy Birthday Sparky!

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blutxan(13:03:56) :

Let’s Get Real:

Obama’s Houston Office:

2520 Southmore Blvd
Houston, Tx 77004

Phone: 713-898-9734

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Bea(13:04:33) :

Let’sGetReal for “ThatOne” (12:45:05) :

I would think they should have been allowed to AT LEAST cast a provisional ballot…

Here’s the website for the Houston Obama volunteers, maybe they can help with better info/advice?: http://www.hg4obama.com/

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Lacy Lady(13:05:14) :

JACK CAFFERTY IS BACK!!!!!!!!!! WHEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
We’re on a ROLL NoW!!!!!!!!

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upnorth minnesota hose Hussein hotrod(13:06:07) :

Holy Cow. Just got an email from Republicans for Obama—I sent them some dough on my hubby’s behalf a while back🙂 — It’s touting Colin Powell’s endorsement (video included) and encouraging me to pass it along. Hoo hoo! Hopefully they can do some good work and make a difference with some of those recalcitrant folks.

RE: voting registration. Our county Registrar of Voters has a website with a link to allow us to check and see if we’re registered. It was reassuring to check and find our names there, which I did a few weeks back.

To the person who registered online, did you get a receipt? a number? Here in San Diego, you must mail in voter registration. You cannot complete it online.

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upnorth minnesota hose Hussein hotrod(13:11:54) :

Democrat G — That means we boycott Boze products and Select Comfort and Sleep Number mattresses, Orick vacuums, Onstar, Lumber Liquidators and a host of others. Bea’s long list of sponsers is on this thread here: Bea (09:31:15) :

Sparky,
I saw on an earlier thread that today is your Bday but by the time I read thru everything you already had gone to work.
I just want to wish another Cal mudpuppie Happy Birthday!!!
Hugs from La in So Sac….:) And I did sing to you…good thing there is no sound…..:)

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mhrt oregon"steve"(13:15:04) :

This is something obama did twenty years ago
one act of kindness…….pass it on
this is a great article about obama and what a good man he is and how kind he has always been……..the other article that i read had copies of the letters…….i wish this one did

Don’t be too sure! I have a friend in Houston who just might cast a vote for Obama but will never admit to it. Her hubby has told her that she can move out if she does…but he won’t be in the voting booth with her, will he? ; ) Let’s hope for a lot of those quiet votes!

Thanks to those who’ve suggested ways to talk to my dad. I’ll let you know what his reaction is, but I expect it to be explosive.

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Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA(13:19:21) :

Upnorth (hHh)
That is the cutest picture!

Ennealogic
Thanks for the apple pie recipe.

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Jim, aka Pitt Bull Hockey P.(13:19:32) :

Unfortunately, many of the advertisers on Rush’s show also advertise on progressive talk shows. It’s just business for them, not necessarily an ideological statement. If you DO decide to boycott, make sure to let them know which show is the reason behind your decision!

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Let'sGetReal for "ThatOne"(13:20:29) :

SanDiego Muslim Jew Christian Hindu Surfchick (13:11:20) :

RE: voting registration. Our county Registrar of Voters has a website with a link to allow us to check and see if we’re registered. It was reassuring to check and find our names there, which I did a few weeks back.

To the person who registered online, did you get a receipt? a number? Here in San Diego, you must mail in voter registration. You cannot complete it online.

I didn’t get a receipt from the voteforchange.com website…so maybe this is an issue. I know when I updated my address through that site way before the deadline….I had to print out what I had entered. But when I registered the 5 folks…it took all the information and didn’t give me the option to print anything and mail it in. This may be the problem.

ANCHORAGE, Alaska — Gov. Sarah Palin and her husband are scheduled to give dispositions Friday in a second investigation into whether she violated Alaska ethics law by firing the state’s top public safety official.

Attorney Thomas Van Flein, who is representing both Sarah and Todd Palin, said the depositions will take place outside the state but declined to say where.

The governor is on the campaign trail as Republican John McCain’s running mate. Campaign officials have not yet released her Friday schedule.

The three-hour interviews are part of an investigation by the Alaska Personnel Board, which has hired independent counsel Timothy Petumenos. He did not immediately return a call left at his Anchorage office.

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antsy aka CommaLibertyP(13:20:35) :

Joe and Heather Linwood Nj (12:26:46) :

Ok, I hate to do this but I will….
My wife was driving in Northfield NJ next town to us. She saw a Painting company 609-646-7333

Disgusting — Well I found this guy’s name and looked for his owning any property in Boca. None in his name. But i will cal him tomorrow.

Also, now that idiot Heather Wilson calls Obama a communist.

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kimosabe(13:21:11) :

Remember, to a moose, a yappy little dawg is a hungry little wolf, its arch-enemy. No wonder that Brian did not take kindly to the pooch.

@Kat…just a tablespoon of white vinegar in the crust mixture. Not sure why really…its the way my mother taught me to make it. The crust is lovely and flaky, and a little sweet…(not too much though) Personally I think it is the fact that I try not to handle it overly much….and the vinegar…well we must always do as mother teaches..lol.

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Rose in PA(13:24:19) :

I am definitely sick of the hate spewing likes of Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. The funny thing is they are SO predictable – everyone knew they would make the Powell endorsement about race because in their simple minds there could be no other motive.

Meanwhile, Michael Smerconish, a local conservative radio talk show host, came out for Obama recently and it’s amazing to listen how his loyal…or once loyal listeners…are reacting. He said he was innudated with e-mails as soon as he made his announcement Friday morning…overwhelmingly negative e-mails. This was even before he had a chance to explain why he would be voting for Obama. People are calling in telling him he should have kept his opinion to himself or lied and said he was voting for McCain. It’s unbelievable! So many are threatening to never listen to him again. Others throw out the usual ridiculous stuff – Obama is a socialist, a terrorist, Obama has a picture of Mumia Abu-Jamal in his office (an issue dear to Smerconish), the list goes on.

So apparently people don’t want to hear logical, rational arguments as to why he’s voting the way he is…they just want him to rant and rave racist, hate filled speeches like Rush and Hannity. It’s tough for me to understand but it’s been making my morning commute much more entertaining!

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Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA(13:26:46) :

Laurie,
Next pie I make, I’m trying it. Knew the trick about ice water and not too much handling, all this talk about pies and fall in the air, time for an apple pie.

“You’ve heard a lot of scurrilous ads and phone calls lately which lie about Barack Obama and also raise unfair questions about his character,” said Biden to a crowd of several thousand in rural Colorado. “A lot of Democrats are angry. But folks: if, God willing, we win this, when we win, we have to reach out. We have to isolate those extremes. We have to reach out to Democrats and Republicans and Independents.”

“And I say to my friend John McCain, if he’s really serious when he said this morning on one of the shows that this election is all about the economy, then I say, John, stop your ads!” said Biden, raising his voice over the applause of the supporters. “Bring down those robo-calls. If it’s about the economy, argue about the economy. Not about Barack Obama’s character. Not about these scurrilous ads. John, stop these calls!”

On CBS’s Early Show Tuesday morning, anchor Harry Smith pressed McCain on comments made by a campaign advisor that the election isn’t about issues, but character.

“That’s simply not true, responded McCain. “We’ve been focusing on the economy. Listen to me, I’m the candidate. And this — this campaign is about the economy.”

Colorado is one of several battleground states where the Arizona senator’s campaign is making robocalls that tie Barack Obama to 1960s radical William Ayers.

“These attacks don’t hurt Barack Obama, they hurt you, they divide the country,” Biden continued at his Colorado event Tuesday. “They distract people, or attempt to distract you, from things that are affecting people’s everyday lives.”

“Barack Obama and I can take two more weeks of these attacks, but our country cannot take four more years of this policy and these politics. It must, it must end, it must stop now!”

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Shove Maggot "That One" Hussein aka the problem child(13:28:37) :

@ Mired
Welcome! So glad you have enjoyed us. Tell me, was it the witty repartee or the smell of warm pie that made you finally join us?

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Sparky(13:29:18) :

He LA! I heard you singing, loud and clear. Beautiful, thanks! (waves)

I don’t think the link worked earlier on the following from our Joe “Gotcher Back Barack” Biden, but he said similar on Ellen’s show. Hope this works.

“You’ve heard a lot of scurrilous ads and phone calls lately which lie about Barack Obama and also raise unfair questions about his character,” said Biden to a crowd of several thousand in rural Colorado. “A lot of Democrats are angry. But folks: if, God willing, we win this, when we win, we have to reach out. We have to isolate those extremes. We have to reach out to Democrats and Republicans and Independents.”

“And I say to my friend John McCain, if he’s really serious when he said this morning on one of the shows that this election is all about the economy, then I say, John, stop your ads!” said Biden, raising his voice over the applause of the supporters. “Bring down those robo-calls. If it’s about the economy, argue about the economy. Not about Barack Obama’s character. Not about these scurrilous ads. John, stop these calls!”

On CBS’s Early Show Tuesday morning, anchor Harry Smith pressed McCain on comments made by a campaign advisor that the election isn’t about issues, but character.

“That’s simply not true, responded McCain. “We’ve been focusing on the economy. Listen to me, I’m the candidate. And this — this campaign is about the economy.”

Colorado is one of several battleground states where the Arizona senator’s campaign is making robocalls that tie Barack Obama to 1960s radical William Ayers.

“These attacks don’t hurt Barack Obama, they hurt you, they divide the country,” Biden continued at his Colorado event Tuesday. “They distract people, or attempt to distract you, from things that are affecting people’s everyday lives.”

“Barack Obama and I can take two more weeks of these attacks, but our country cannot take four more years of this policy and these politics. It must, it must end, it must stop now!”

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Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT(13:31:54) :

LOL the smell of warm pie…. that’s what keeps me coming back! Every since we started talking about pie….I have had a hankerin’.

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Annette AKA UK Lady(13:32:17) :

Check this out all!!

I think this will be devastating for McCain – all about his pick of Falin!!!!

Pie – I want a slice of still warm sour cherry pie with a scoop of Vanilla ice cream…..ahhhhhhhhhhh………

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Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT(13:32:51) :

I DID not mean to type “every”… I meant to type EVER. IN fact, “every” in that circumstance is one of my pet peeves! Figures!

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Sparky(13:33:27) :

LA, heard you singing, loud and clear…beautiful. Thanks (waves)

From our own Joe “Gotcher Back Barack” Biden on PoliticalTicker:

(This hase been going to Jupiter, but will try one last time. Joe stated (very well) similar on Ellen show. Fingers crossed….)

Biden: John, stop these calls!
Posted: 04:15 PM ET

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Sarah "honey bucket" Hussein(13:33:37) :

OK, I see someone is getting an apple pie recipe. AKM, I think we all need to share in this. How about the Mudflats Recipe Book–inclusive, bipartisan, above board, heal the breach recipes from the 50 states and around the world.
Some contents: Fish–polar bears’ favorite recipes
Vegetarian–delight the Brians and Brendas in your life
Desserts–the sweet reward for treating others nicely
Breads–the universal food that makes us all one family (actually, my favorite zucchini bread recipe is from an ancient Fairbanks welcome wagon recipe book my aunt gave me. She lived for a few years in Anchorage, and around 40 in Fairbanks.)
Poultry–help the chickens in your life
Re-election–recipes your friends and family will call for again and again
Recall–recipes you probably won’t want to try the first time! (OK, perhaps the only one in here would be Mudslinging Pie!)

“You’ve heard a lot of scurrilous ads and phone calls lately which lie about Barack Obama and also raise unfair questions about his character,” said Biden to a crowd of several thousand in rural Colorado. “A lot of Democrats are angry. But folks: if, God willing, we win this, when we win, we have to reach out. We have to isolate those extremes. We have to reach out to Democrats and Republicans and Independents.”

“And I say to my friend John McCain, if he’s really serious when he said this morning on one of the shows that this election is all about the economy, then I say, John, stop your ads!” said Biden, raising his voice over the applause of the supporters. “Bring down those robo-calls. If it’s about the economy, argue about the economy. Not about Barack Obama’s character. Not about these scurrilous ads. John, stop these calls!”

On CBS’s Early Show Tuesday morning, anchor Harry Smith pressed McCain on comments made by a campaign advisor that the election isn’t about issues, but character.

“That’s simply not true, responded McCain. “We’ve been focusing on the economy. Listen to me, I’m the candidate. And this — this campaign is about the economy.”

Colorado is one of several battleground states where the Arizona senator’s campaign is making robocalls that tie Barack Obama to 1960s radical William Ayers.

“These attacks don’t hurt Barack Obama, they hurt you, they divide the country,” Biden continued at his Colorado event Tuesday. “They distract people, or attempt to distract you, from things that are affecting people’s everyday lives.”

“Barack Obama and I can take two more weeks of these attacks, but our country cannot take four more years of this policy and these politics. It must, it must end, it must stop now!”

There’s a handy little book available that can help you decide where to shop based on the company’s donations to Dem or Rep.
It’s called ‘The Blue Pages: A Directory of Companies Rated by Their Politics and Practices’.
For example, Barnes and Noble makes 100% of their donations to Dems, whereas Bookamillion gives 79% of their donations to the Reps.
It’s a great little guide to help you vote with your wallet!

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eajphd Molten Contra Palin(13:37:14) :

“Think up a new, exciting name for Ted Stevens Anchorage”

Given the cost of new signage and the labels for routing luggage, etc, etc. I suggest the new name should be TS* Anchorage – it would keep the abbreviation yet commerate Steven’s attitude toward everyone and help people remember why the name was changed.

*For those unfamiliar with the abbreviation TS is like BS, but with tough substituted for bull.

I must say, our country has never made it EASY to register to vote. So many people haven’t and never knew how to even begin. . . Good luck!

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Dragon Lady(13:41:18) :

Let’s Get Real – I wonder if that is a snafu because they are first time voters.

Does your state’s board of elections have a website you can check?

This may be a volume issue too.

I know of a case where the board of elections doesn’t list it online but the person has their card so it should be okay.

Don’t give up hope. (Although I hope they sent those registrations in by 10/06.)

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upnorth minnesota hose Hussein hotrod(13:44:25) :

Thanks sparky! My God i love Joe Biden. Just think how fortunate we are folks. Barack and Joe!! How much more hopeful can it get!?

hHh

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Let'sGetReal for "ThatOne"(13:45:48) :

Dragon Lady (13:41:18) :

Let’s Get Real – I wonder if that is a snafu because they are first time voters.

Does your state’s board of elections have a website you can check?

This may be a volume issue too.

I know of a case where the board of elections doesn’t list it online but the person has their card so it should be okay.

Don’t give up hope. (Although I hope they sent those registrations in by 10/06.)

They have never received the registration cards, which is why I’m thinking there was something wrong with the voteforchange.com website.

Now 5 people will not get to cast their vote in Texas! I’m feeling a little blue now!

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Sparky(13:47:15) :

upnorth minnesota hose Hussein hotrod (13:44:25) : agreed!

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Dragon Lady(13:47:19) :

OMG – everyone watch Chris.

Just when you thought you knew how vapid Palin is she shocks you. She’s a Child.

I am stupified and mortified. Somewhat like the time my cat tried to eat an insect she thought was dead. (It Wasn’t.)

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Sarah "honey bucket" Hussein(13:48:03) :

I registered to vote 3 times in the last year here in CA. I moved from one address to another in CA. You’re supposed to be able to change your voting address when you change your driver’s license info. Didn’t take. I missed the primaries because of it. Registered online. Sent in my stuff. Didn’t take. This time, I checked my status online and found out I wasn’t registered, so went through it all again.
The first 2 times I registered Dem. The last time, green. Think there’s a connection?

Wow! Palin is changing the Constitution already and she’s not even elected yet. She says that the VP is in charge of the Senate so she can dig in there and guide the Senators in setting policy. who Knew?

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Bea(13:49:15) :

Let’sGetReal for “ThatOne” (13:45:48) :

PLEASE, please get them to go back and ask for a provisional ballot! Their registration could just be hung up in the pipeline.

My mom was volunteering at her local registrars to help open new voter registrations and said they were SWAMPED.

Make sure ALL 5 of those people ask for provisional ballots!! Don;t let them give up!

Can you imagine Palin trying to guide people like Kennedy or McCain (who will still be in the Senate) in anything? How about Boxer and Feinstein from CA!!!!! This is laughable. Talk about herding cats. This is one time we can thank G for their independence.
Now we all know we’ll never get to see it, because they’ll lose, but I suggest we give her a consolation prize and let her spend a week guiding the Senate! It would make a great sitcom.

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Camie(13:55:43) :

Just in case you guys are interested, SP is giving an interview on CNN today and I hate to say it but she doesn’t sound half bad. Obviously they have been prepping her on the old interview skills becuse she is nothing like the SP ala Katie Couric fame. They will be airing the rest of the interview shortly where she is supposed to speak about Todd’s involvement in Troopergage and his role in the govenor’s office.

Also, not sure if you guys watch The Daily Show with Jon Stewart but he had a really funny but sad piece on Wasilla and interviewed the mayor of the town who could not articulate what she actually does but she claims that she is absolutely qualified to be Vice President. I will try to post it.

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Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT(13:56:18) :

Sarah “honey bucket” Hussein (13:52:41) : LOL I just had a thought about a sitcom….

SWWNBN heads the Senate, and fires everyone she doesn’t like…. and it’s called, “Honey, I shrunk the Senate!”

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Michele aka Mullet Troll Palin(13:56:34) :

I know this is all off-topic, but I had to jump in. Thanks to all who contributed to Michele Bachmann’s opponent–updates on this site:http://www.dumpbachmann.blogspot.com/
One more thing, and perhaps the Mudpuppies can find out how to do this. There’s a Democratic candidate in Texas who needs our help–Noriega–does anyone know how to contact him and donate perhaps to his campaign? Things are close here in North Carolina and getting heated up. I’m going to vote tomorrow morning.

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Whiskey Otter Hussein(13:57:21) :

Here’s an AP investigation of Palin’s kids travel cost being charged to AK taxpayers. They aren’t saying it’s illegal or legal, just outlining the facts. All that travel is pretty smarmy if you ask me.

Just in case you guys are interested, SP is giving an interview on CNN today and I hate to say it but she doesn’t sound half bad. Obviously they have been prepping her on the old interview skills becuse she is nothing like the SP ala Katie Couric fame.

I caught some, it just sounded like another stump speech to me, but I didn’t catch the whole thing, did Drew Griffin ask any tough follow ups?

ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Gov. Sarah Palin charged the state for her children to travel with her, including to events where they were not invited, and later amended expense reports to specify that they were on official business.

The charges included costs for hotel and commercial flights for three daughters to join Palin to watch their father in a snowmobile race, and a trip to New York, where the governor attended a five-hour conference and stayed with 17-year-old Bristol for five days and four nights in a luxury hotel.

In all, Palin has charged the state $21,012 for her three daughters’ 64 one-way and 12 round-trip commercial flights since she took office in December 2006. In some other cases, she has charged the state for hotel rooms for the girls.

Alaska law does not specifically address expenses for a governor’s children. The law allows for payment of expenses for anyone conducting official state business.

As governor, Palin justified having the state pay for the travel of her daughters — Bristol, 17; Willow, 14; and Piper, 7 — by noting on travel forms that the girls had been invited to attend or participate in events on the governor’s schedule.

But some organizers of these events said they were surprised when the Palin children showed up uninvited, or said they agreed to a request by the governor to allow the children to attend.

Several other organizers said the children merely accompanied their mother and did not participate. The trips enabled Palin, whose main state office is in the capital of Juneau, to spend more time with her children.

“She said any event she can take her kids to is an event she tries to attend,” said Jennifer McCarthy, who helped organize the June 2007 Family Day Celebration picnic in Ketchikan that Piper attended with her parents.

State Finance Director Kim Garnero told The Associated Press she has not reviewed the Palins’ travel expense forms, so she could not say whether the daughters’ travel with their mother would meet the definition of official business.

After Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain chose Palin his running mate and reporters asked for the records, Palin ordered changes to previously filed expense reports for her daughters’ travel.

In the amended reports, Palin added phrases such as “First Family attending” and “First Family invited” to explain the girls’ attendance.

“The governor said, ‘I want the purpose and the reason for this travel to be clear,'” said Linda Perez, state director of administrative services.

When Palin released her family’s tax records as part of her vice presidential campaign, some tax experts questioned why she did not report the children’s state travel reimbursements as income.

The Palins released a review by a Washington attorney who said state law allows the children’s travel expenses to be reimbursed and not taxed when they conduct official state business.

Taylor Griffin, a McCain-Palin campaign spokesman, said Palin followed state policy allowing governors to charge for their children’s travel. He said the governor’s office has invitations requesting the family to attend some events, but he said he did not have them to provide.

In October 2007, Palin brought daughter Bristol along on a trip to New York for a women’s leadership conference. Plane tickets from Anchorage to La Guardia Airport for $1,385.11 were billed to the state, records show, and mother and daughter shared a room for four nights at the $707.29-per-night Essex House hotel, which overlooks Central Park.

The event’s organizers said Palin asked if she could bring her daughter.

Alexis Gelber, who organized Newsweek’s Third Annual Women & Leadership Conference, said she does not know how Bristol ended up attending. Gelber said invitees usually attend alone, but some ask if they can bring a relative or friend.

Griffin, the campaign spokesman, said he believes someone with the event personally sent an e-mail to Bristol inviting her, but he did not have it to provide. Records show Palin also met with Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Goldman Sachs representatives and visited the New York Stock Exchange.

In January, the governor, Willow and Piper showed up at the Alaska Symphony of Seafood Buffet, an Anchorage gala to announce winners of an earlier seafood competition.

“She was just there,” said James Browning, executive director of Alaska Fisheries Development Foundation, which runs the event. Griffin said the governor’s office received an invitation that was not specifically addressed to anyone.

When Palin amended her children’s expense reports, she listed a role for the two girls at the function — “to draw two separate raffle tickets.”

In the original travel form, Palin listed a number of events that her children attended and said they were there “in official capacity helping.” She did not identify any specific roles for the girls.

In July, the governor charged the state $2,741.26 to take Bristol and Piper to Philadelphia for a meeting of the National Governors Association. The girls had their own room for five nights at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel for $215.46 a night, expense records show.

Expense forms describe the girls’ official purpose as “NGA Governor’s Youth Programs and family activities.” But those programs were activities designed to keep children busy, a service provided by the NGA

In addition to the commercial flights, the children have traveled dozens of times with Palin on a state plane. For these flights, the total cost of operating the plane, at $971 an hour, was about $55,000, according to state flight logs. The cost of operating the state plane does not increase when the children join their mother.

The organizer of an American Heart Association luncheon on Feb. 15 in Fairbanks said Palin asked to bring daughter Piper to the event, and the organizer said she was surprised when Palin showed up with daughter Willow and Bristol as well.

The three Palin daughters shared a room separate from their mother at the Princess Lodge in Fairbanks for two nights, at a cost to the state of $129 per night.

The luncheon took place before Palin’s husband, Todd, finished fourth in the 2,000-mile Iron Dog snowmobile race, also in Fairbanks. The family greeted him at the finish line.

When Palin showed up at the luncheon with not just Piper but also Willow and Bristol, organizers had to scramble to make room at the main table, said Janet Bartels, who set up the event.

“When it’s the governor, you just make it happen,” she said.

The state is already reviewing nearly $17,000 in per diem payments to Palin for more than 300 nights she slept at her own home, 40 miles from her satellite office in Anchorage.

Tony Knowles, a Democratic former governor of Alaska who lost to Palin in a 2006 bid to reclaim the job, said he never charged the state for his three children’s commercial flights or claimed their travel as official state business.

Knowles, who was governor from 1994 to 2002, is the only other recent Alaska governor who had school-age children while in office.

“There was no valid reason for the children to be along on state business,” said Knowles, a supporter of Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama. “I cannot recall any instance during my eight years as governor where it would have been appropriate to claim they performed state business.”

Knowles said he brought his children to one NGA event while in office but didn’t charge the state for their trip.

In February 2007, the three girls flew from Juneau to Anchorage on Alaska Airlines. Palin charged the state for the $519.30 round-trip ticket for each girl, and noted on the expense form that the daughters accompanied her to “open the start of the Iron Dog race.”

The children and their mother then watched as Todd Palin and other racers started the competition, which Todd won that year. Palin later had the relevant expense forms changed to describe the girls’ business as “First Family official starter for the start of the Iron Dog race.”

The Palins began charging the state for commercial flights after the governor kept a 2006 campaign promise to sell a jet bought by her predecessor.

Palin put the jet up for sale on eBay, a move she later trumpeted in her star-making speech at the Republican National Convention, and it was ultimately sold by the state at a loss.

That left only one high-performance aircraft deemed safe enough for her to use — a 1980 twin-engine King Air assigned to the public safety agency but, according to flight logs, out of service for maintenance and repairs about a third of the time Palin has been governor.

Yep, there she goes again: She charged the state $21,000 for her children’s flights to locales around the country, some to which they weren’t even invited.

“ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Gov. Sarah Palin charged the state for her children to travel with her, including to events where they were not invited, and later amended expense reports to specify that they were on official business.”

Of course not. I honestly beleive that she only does interviews where she knows the interviewer won’t ask tough follow up questions. There were many aspects of former stump speeches mixed in her responses, but I think she was able to state her answers in a more coherent fashion than I’ve heard in the past.

Hey everyone,
Lots of chatter I see. That great!
I just stumbled upon this little tidbit. I don’t know if it has already
been posted but, it seems John McCain is a lot more diverse than I thought.
This was on CNN, check out John’s family ancestors,

I had similar problems when I moved between towns in the Eastern Sierra, too (Mammoth, Big Pine, Bishop). I think it had to do with my registering as a Democrat, something they weren’t familiar with there at the time…

Of course she didn’t mean to imply some areas are unAmerican. She actually meant it as her absolute belief. Can you imagine how she feels about people in San Francisco?
“Democrats and others criticized Palin for seeming to imply that some parts of the country are more patriotic than others.

Palin denied that was her intention in an interview with CNN on Tuesday.

“I don’t want that misunderstood,” Palin said. “If that’s the way it came across, I apologize.” ”

Of course not. I honestly beleive that she only does interviews where she knows the interviewer won’t ask tough follow up questions. There were many aspects of former stump speeches mixed in her responses, but I think she was able to state her answers in a more coherent fashion than I’ve heard in the past.

She’s a governor, are our expectations really that low that we’re nervous Google Drew Griffin, he’s a Christian conservative. He didn’t mention AIP, he didn’t challenge her when she trashed her ex BIL or Monegan, just letting her spout her lies and garbage.

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Camie(14:15:43) :

Government reform which is what she has done as a governor and mayor, ruffle feathers to give people faith back in the government and energy independence which as been her forte as govenor of Alaska. She again brings up the special needs children priority. It’s funny but I saw Maria Shriver on Larry King Live last night and she has worked on speical needs children issues for years and she said that she would ask Gov. Palin to begin with hiring someone with special needs in her cabinet. I wonder how long it will take her to do that.
Regi, you are right, she is going through many of the talking points in her answers and not even answering the question. I wonder when she is talking about Americans is she talking about the Americans in the Pro-America states. I guess she won’t be fighting for people like me from Un-American, Big City New York/New Jersey.
She said that it wasn’t a mistake to allow Todd to use her office, but that he was doing what he was told to do by the Dept. of Law which is to go to the commissioner of public safety. She also said that given the fact that Murkowski’s spouse was involved in his office, there is a double standard. Can anyone from Alaska comment on this. I am stumped.

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upnorth minnesota hose Hussein hotrod(14:15:59) :

Michele–

You can donate to Noriega and some of the other tight races at orange to blue. you can donate as much or as little as you want (even $1) to each key candidate and then pay just one total. they add new races as they become tight.

Drew Griffin just agreed the media has been unfair to her @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

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katiebegood(14:17:06) :

I dropped my ballot off at my Library on Sunday, (got it on Saturday). I did a little happy dance when I dropped it in the box (I live in Oregon and we vote by mail). I talked to a gal I know who works there checking out books and she said she is amazed how many people have been Saturday and Sunday to drop off their ballots. She said she has never seen anything like it and she has worked at the Library for years. She also said that almost everyone who put their ballot in the box walked away with a very big smile on their faces. She did say mine was the first “happy dance” she had seen.

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IndieWatch(14:19:06) :

Off-topic but I really enjoyed seeing this headline just now on the Google News page:

Thanks to all for doing your part in drawing (negative) attention this hateful ignoramus. Yes, we can!

Now on to Rush and the rest of his ilk….

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katiebegood(14:19:12) :

Regi (13:58:04) :
Just in case you guys are interested, SP is giving an interview on CNN today and I hate to say it but she doesn’t sound half bad. Obviously they have been prepping her on the old interview skills becuse she is nothing like the SP ala Katie Couric fame.
I caught some, it just sounded like another stump speech to me, but I didn’t catch the whole thing, did Drew Griffin ask any tough follow ups?

That’s probably because CNN gave her the questions she would be asked in advance. So, it really was a stump speech. CNN has taken a really hard right in the last year. I think they are trying to be the new Fox, for whatever reason.

I’m sorry, but if a candidate can’t sit with the best minds in journalism and hash out the issues of the US and the world, then this lone little voter can’t possibly take that candidate seriously. That simple. I have yet to see this woman offer anything insightful regarding the US and improving conditions in our economy or global affairs. Hell I have yet to see the ‘energy expert’ offer any expertise besides ‘the people are hungry for oil’ and ‘drill baby drill’. I just don’t get it, maybe I’m stupid.

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Camie(14:22:53) :

Now she is back on the Joe Biden comment. That is the one thing that really annoyed me about what Biden said. Don’t give them anything more to talk about and gain points from.

Yeah, this is a total love fest between the two of them.

Robert Gibbs is talking now. Hopefully he will be able to clarify Biden’s comments and Biden himself will come out and clean it up or spin it or something.

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BigPete(14:23:55) :

“VP Presidential Candidate”Palin on CNN…….going on about the Missions she will embark on..gov. reform/ruffling feathers/scars to show for it etc. If this hayseed thinks the Republican Party would let her do anything BUT be a figurehead for Special needs…..she is delusional. But then again also, we already know that.

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Sarah "honey bucket" Hussein(14:24:28) :

Yeah, if someone misunderstood, I apologize–which means, if they’re too stupid to know what I mean, I’m sorry they’re so stupid.

Hmmmmm.

Well, I’m off to spend my afternoon fishing and hiking. Yep, where I live is as good as Alaska for all that, but in a blue state (CA) though my congressman is a republican. I’ll do what I can to remedy that in a couple of weeks, though.
Actually, I don’t object to his being a republican. I object to him being a short sighted boob with Palinesque views of global warming.
Hope we get to have brown trout for dinner. MMMMMMMMMM!

Just listening to the radio CBC’s “As it Happens” — A fellow expat, Kate Green, living in Ottawa, was interviewed. She received her absentee ballot from Santa Clara County, CA. Problem was, it was a photocopy of the ballot. There was also a note, on half a sheet of paper, with no letterhead or contact information. It explained that due to a printing problem, they didn’t have a ballot for her. Her information would be copied over onto a “real” ballot and cast for her. She was concerned: just who will be filling it in, and when? As she put it, “This has hanging chads written all over it.” Fortunately, she had (as I did) cast a provisional ballot early in October. But she would like to vote on the ballot initiatives, and had not had the information when she cast her provisional ballot.

Has anyone else heard about this? Any advice? If so, please post it to the talkback e-mail for this show!

That’s probably because CNN gave her the questions she would be asked in advance. So, it really was a stump speech. CNN has taken a really hard right in the last year. I think they are trying to be the new Fox, for whatever reason.

The entire media is hard right ! If there’s a left leaning show it states it clearly and completely. Unlike the lying Faux News fair and balanced bullshit.

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Michele aka Mullet Troll Palin(14:29:41) :

Hose Hussein Hotrod: Thanks so much! Had to drop out for a while to grade papers, but I appreciate the response! Back to work–

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upnorth minnesota hose Hussein hotrod(14:29:48) :

@IndieWatch — It’s so gratifying isn’t it? esp. for us mudpups who helped sound the alarm and helped lead the charge to make her pay with donations to El Tinklenberg.

I wonder if our next target ought to be this despicable Rep. from Florida named Robin Hayes who said (in his most Bachmannesque voice), “Liberals hate real Americans who work, and accomplish, and achieve and believe in God.”

Yikes. Have you had enough of this crapola yet???

Here’s his opponent, Larry Kissell’s, act blue page if you have any spare change. Like Bachmann’s race, Hayes’ race was, until now, considered pretty safe. I say we make him pay.

OK. One more post.
She does not have more relevant exec experience than Obama. He’s run a huge campaign for two years and had to keep thousands of people on the right path, deal with the money and all the rules that go with it.
Palin hired an administrator in Wasilla, and as Governor, it appears Todd did most of it. Trying to get your former bro in law fired, firing Monagan for no legit reason, charging the state for her kids travel expenses, etc etc do not add up to positive exec experience. They add up to incompetence and illegal activities. Someone in Obamaland must point this out. Obama can’t. He would never ever come out on the winning side if he seems to attack her, even if it’s to point out her wrongs.
NOW I’m off fishing. Hubby is tapping his foot. OK not really, but we only have 1 more week i fishing season.

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Libbs(14:31:05) :

Linda in Virginia –

Add Georgia to the list – no hats, shirts, buttons…NOTHING with a candidate’s name/slogan within 150 feet of the polling place.

“ANCHORAGE, Alaska — Gov. Sarah Palin charged the state for her children to travel with her, including to events where they were not invited, and later amended expense reports to specify that they were on official business.

The charges included costs for hotel and commercial flights for three daughters to join Palin to watch their father in a snowmobile race, and a trip to New York, where the governor attended a five-hour conference and stayed with 17-year-old Bristol for five days and four nights in a luxury hotel. […]”

The whole article is interesting… sheesh! Why doesn’t the main public get to hear all these things??

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Joe and Heather Linwood Nj(14:33:23) :

antsy aka CommaLibertyP (13:20:35) :

Joe and Heather Linwood Nj (12:26:46) :

Ok, I hate to do this but I will….
My wife was driving in Northfield NJ next town to us. She saw a Painting company 609-646-7333

Disgusting — Well I found this guy’s name and looked for his owning any property in Boca. None in his name. But i will cal him tomorrow.

Also, now that idiot Heather Wilson calls Obama a communist
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thanks for the follow up. What is his name? My wife said it started with a D. but could not make it out. What did he say to you on the phone? He’s def. crazy.

There’s no comparison to what Obama’s had to deal with as Senator and what Palin had to deal with in Wasilla and as Alaskan governor. The congress has been faced with issues she’s never so much as read headlines regarding, executive experience is code for delegator. Obama can delegate AND think at the same time.

Notice she’s bringing Big Daddy to the William’s interview @@

And tomorrow Palin will make her first appearance on NBC News when she and Sen. John McCain speak with anchor Brian Williams. The two-part interview will air Wednesday and Thursday on “NBC Nightly News.”

As far as I’m concerned I won the election when I pull that lever for Obama. We’ll conduct ourselves as we have through 8 years of Bush regardless who wins. McCain/Palin or their supporters aren’t worth the aggravation. I just hope the Congress shows some balls and stands up to them if they get in.

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ira2(14:41:20) :

ira2 (14:32:20) :

Never mind, it’s already been posted way above. I’m slow during the daytime, LOL!

Re: The Murkowski wife issue & double standard… Boy is that a stretch!!!! Nancy was the usual wife of politician in terms of involvement — speaking at groups with public interest agendas, i.e. breast cancer, children’s issues, etc. She did not use the Gov’s office for personal business. I sincerely hope that Frank Murkowski &/or his wife is all over that one like white on rice!!!!

She is always so full of sh!t!!!! Everything that comes out of her mouth is lies lies lies. If anyone can find it on the Anchorage Press, there was an interesting editorial-type piece about Troopergate & narcissism. We’ve covered that aspect of the Palins here on several threads, interesting to finally see that word defined & then applied to the Palins in the press, FINALLY.

On a separate note about the Ted thing: bottom line for Alaskans is that whatever Ted did with regard to VECO won’t matter to the majority. Alaska is completely and utterly dependent upon the oil industry. Even if you are an attorney or doctor or house painter, you are still tied to the oil industry in that your client base is dependent upon oil in some way. This state has a huge amount of oil company workers, if not for BP/ConocoPhillips/Chevron/Etc, then for one of the contractors, VECO being one of the largest if not THE largest. Alaskans know that whatever Ted was doing with Bill/Veco was to further oil interests and therefore their own interests indirectly. If they value their jobs & PFDs (which most everyone does), then they do not care. If it had been found that a drug company was fixing up his place (and we are ALL paying inflated prices for meds, let’s face it), it might have been different, but he could have gotten an island getaway worth $1 million and I still think the majority of Alaskans just wouldn’t care…

The Associated Press just now put out a detailed report regarding SP’s charging the state for numerous trips her children made……

This is a “reformer” and “ethical” person????

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Goalie Sanka Palin in NM(14:50:13) :

Linda in Virginia (14:25:51) :

Yup, in NM you cannot wear your candidate’s buttons, hats, T-Shirts or anything of that nature to vote in…and the intoxicated woman that showed up to vote passed out before finishing her ballot!

We have LOTs of fun here. Always problems at the polls. If you remember we are famous for not getting our votes counted correctly for weeks (sometimes months!)

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j faith l(14:50:42) :

Re the A.P. report… I found it on Yahoo news

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InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor(14:53:53) :

@Ennealogic aka PumpBustHussein (13:02:49) :

Sounds delicious, and similar to mine, but I do use lard and a bit of baking powder instead of Laurie’s vinegar. Turns out that non-hydrogenated lard is actually better for you than most other fats (and certainly than Crisco…), though it’s difficult to find fully non-hydrogenated lard in the US. I found some Canadian stuff on the web though and got my sibling to send some from Canada (as well as some REAL lard from a REAL farm–it came in a quart jar!). I also rendered a bunch of lamb fat the other day that I think I may try to use for a pie crust for a savory pie. It’s so beautiful and white.

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SMR(14:53:57) :

@Regi:

Oh, how I agree with you! That was my comment to one of the very few undecideds that I spoke with while going door to door. I told him that whoever wins the election, those of us who are speaking out & working for positive change are the real winners! Explained to him that I’d been a pretty apathetic republican in the past but that this election had energized me & many others, made us question ourselves, our values, become educated about issues & the candidates — if this election with polarizing candidates is what it takes to make us aware of the responsibility of being a voter in a democratic country, then it’s all good.

I hope that I run into him at the store or some other place and get to ask him if I changed his mind, or made him consider Obama more thoughtfully… I think I talked to him for almost an hour while my tot ran around in the yard with his boys, that was one of the good days going door to door. Not too many of those.

“”Welcome back Jack.
I was beginning to think McCain had you lock in the trunk of one of his 13 cars. I even put your face on a Milk Cartoon! lolll””

Cafferty File
“”Senator John McCain says when it comes to foreign policy he’s light years ahead of Barack Obama. Over and over again, McCain has insisted Obama lacks the necessary experience to conduct business with foreign countries on behalf of the United States.

So how do you explain this?

Citizens of dozens of foreign countries prefer Barack Obama over John McCain as our next president by a margin of almost 4 to 1, according to a massive poll conducted by the Gallup Organization. About 30 percent of those surveyed prefer Obama, while just 8 percent favor McCain.””

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Goalie Sanka Palin in NM(14:56:01) :

Joe and Heather Linwood Nj (14:33:23) :

Also, now that idiot Heather Wilson calls Obama a communist

She’s HORRIBLE!! and now that we threw her out of Congress, she is spewing as much venim as possible while exiting!

We’ll be sending a democrat to replace her – and Dem Tom Udall will be our new Senator, replacing our long time Repug Senator….so TWO MORE DEM’s!!
Yippee………..

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Camie(15:02:48) :

For all of my fellow Obamanites, I thought you might like this story. It really underscores the kind of man that we are trying to put in the white house. It’s a quasi-long story but one worth reading.

Hi Mudpups. I too live in Houston – hi Libbs et al. I am not eligible to vote (yet!) applied for citizenship not through yet – Drat!
I am sporting Obama t’s, yard signs, car stickers and today volunteered at my local office for the first, but not last time. I also had my hair cut and heard multiple people say they voted already and each and every one was for Obama!
While I think it will take a while this state looks a little more pink – certainly in my neck of the woods! Yay!

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JBDC(15:04:29) :

@IndieWatch (14:19:06)

Big ups for using the word “ignoramus!” That describes so many people associated with the Repubs and with SP (not to mention SP herself).

I can’t even believe–no wait, I do believe it–that SP tried to AMEND her travel forms to make it look like her kids had a reason to travel on the state’s expense account. I tell you, I come from a family where you gave the cashier back the money if you received an extra quarter of change. My mom would give the guv’nah a stern talking to and say with great conviction, “Sarah! That is dishonest!” Although I am sure that phrase would not ever make SP as regretful as it made me and my brother.

All of her other liabilities aside, I find lying and dishonesty truly despicable. Nice choice, John McCain.

Has any one seen the ‘Ain’t funny – vice president’ video by senior celebs/comedians on you tube, it’s also on Huff Post. Florida will love it.

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j faith l(15:08:59) :

for Laurie & Kat Loves Wolves… re vinegar in pie crust

If you use it, you must use white vinegar. Tried to find the original discussion but can’t find that.

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JBDC(15:09:00) :

did my comment get eaten? i hesitate to post again. i don’t wish to bore everyone.
ps. you guys are awesome. i hope you/we never tire of hearing that!

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Big Al of Las Vegas(15:09:12) :

Evidence of the Reverse Bradley Effect in the Swing State of Nevada.

My wife and I have been volunteering for the Obama-Biden campaign for the last 2 months. Canvassing, phone calling, stuffing envelopes, data entry (mostly data entry because when the Californians leave on Sunday afternoon after canvassing the weekend there is a backlog of data entry that needs to be completed).

Anyhow, the reports of Voter Suppression out of North Carolina and the Palin-McCain supporters violations of the Voting Rights Act of 1964 so enraged me that I am now a volunteer Poll Worker. I am guessing that other Mudflatties across the nation particularly in our swing states are doing the same, i.e. allowing the negativity of the Palin-McCain fuel their desire to volunteer and fight the good fight against Voter Suppression which inevitably will lead to a reverse Palin effect.

In my county, they were in need of Bilingual English/Spanish – speakers to volunteer as Poll Workers in North Las Vegas where most of our Latino residents live. And, so on November 4th I will be driving cross-county to North Vegas to lend a helping hand as I quietly rage against the Palin-McCain machine. Que Viva Barack Obama! Si Se Puede!

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Living in Texas - Can't see Alaska(15:10:09) :

Hi All,
I also live in the Houston area. Small world. There is a HUGE Obama following here.

I didn’t know if you guys saw this article on the MSNBC website (it’s an AP article). Seems not only are her per diem charges being investigated, but now they’re looking into all the trips on which she’s taken her kids and charged them to the state as “official business”http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27310999/page/2/

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knikgoose HUSSEIN!! justaskin(15:11:26) :

Obama is 47 points ahead of McCain on First Time voters! Yay!

Having said that, I can.not.stand.listening.to..that.lying.witch.
She did not have any executive experience in the mayoralty,..she palmed that off on the administrator (what little there was), and she did not lower taxes, she raised them! What a flipping liar!
And she was the head of,…what? energy regulators? She doesn’t even know the name of the commission?
Wish somebody could just get the hook and haul her off the screens of America. She needs to be “gonged’. The clown needs to come out and bop her with the big plastic hammer, cuz her act was ‘lousy”.

Yes, there will be a ‘generated crisis”. The recession will hit hard next year, and it will hit harder in 3rd world countries. Iraq wants the US to leave and ppl like McCain and Dingbat will want them to get aggressive.
Please, let Obama be the one in charge.

Just poking fun at myself. No pie crust maker here. My mama made some fine pie crusts. My friend’s husband bakes his own and wins at the fair. He says cold water is one secret. I just take a bite and smile.

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rf11(15:18:52) :

NBC has a poll out today that shows that the top concern voters have about McCain is Sarah Palin. Palin is now, officially, more of a drag than George Bush.

“Fifty-five percent of respondents say she’s not qualified to serve as president if the need arises, up five points from the previous poll.

In addition, for the first time, more voters have a negative opinion of her than a positive one. In the survey, 47 percent view her negatively, versus 38 percent who see her in a positive light.

That’s a striking shift since McCain chose Palin as his running mate in early September, when she held a 47 to 27 percent positive rating.

Now, Palin’s qualifications to be president rank as voters’ top concern about McCain’s candidacy – ahead of continuing President Bush’s policies, enacting economic policies that only benefit the rich and keeping too high of a troop presence in Iraq.”

Woohoo! My faith in the electorate is being restored.

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Forty Watt Hussein(15:20:28) :

Camie (15:02:48), thanks for the link to the story of Malia Obama’s socccer game. It soothes the soul in these tense–though always POSITIVE–times.

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Goalie Sanka Palin in NM(15:21:20) :

Big Al of Las Vegas (15:09:12)

GOD BLESS YOU!! You guys are awesome.

I’m helping in the same way in NM! I think we are over the top for Obama, but I won’t let up…No Sireee…I won’t let up.

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rf11(15:22:41) :

By the way, apparently, Palin never figured out what the Vice President does. Please, keep her away from our children. They don’t need to be given inaccurate information about the US constitution.

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rf11(15:26:14) :

Go Chris Matthews! He’s taking on Pat Buchanan, who is obviously smitten with Palin. Pat has defended Palin ever since he was told that she supported him for President.

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Goalie Sanka Palin in NM(15:27:01) :

rf11 (15:22:41),

Yup, keep her away from the children!…imagine how the teacher of that child feels after having listened to her describe what the VP does!! Lordy…and that THIRD grader just asked a simple question…

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Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(15:28:53) :

blutxan (12:52:54) :

This ad is from Brian,
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Too cute by half. Like the fun tone MoveOn took. Much more palatable for the middle in this election.

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InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor(15:28:58) :

@Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca (15:18:47) :

Yeah, I got that you were poking fun at yourself. I was just pointing out that you really DO need to be careful with those pie crusts when you carry them home from the freezer section of the grocery store too. Don’t want to drop them and make them shatter!

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rf11(15:29:45) :

Pat Buchanan is defending Palin because “she was talking to second and third graders,” like young children are stupid and it doesn’t matter what she says to them. That attitude infuriates me, too.

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addseattle(15:30:54) :

Wait – are you saying that Pat Buchanan is defending SP’s answer saying that it didn’t matter because she was talking to little kids? Dear God!!!

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Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(15:32:11) :

InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor (15:28:58):

I’ve ruined a few that way.

You’ve made me hungry for pie. As much as O likes pie, maybe there could be a Mudflats pie contest in his honor.

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Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(15:34:22) :

addseattle (15:30:54) :

Wait – are you saying that Pat Buchanan is defending SP’s answer saying that it didn’t matter because she was talking to little kids? Dear God!!!
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On Hardball. Chris Matthews came out and said Pat B was paid to defend a point of view. Still, Pat was more than vigorously towing the party line. He really does like Palin I think.

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rf11(15:35:07) :

addseattle, EXACTLY! He kept dismissing her comment by saying “Chris, she was talking to third graders,” like who cares what she says to third graders. Chris became frustrated and finally started quoting the comment Palin made to Katie Couric about the role of VP in an attempt to get Pat to address the substance of her remark. (He still wouldn’t be honest about it).

Pat is smitten and covers for Palin, no matter what.

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Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA(15:36:19) :

New thread, see you over there, someone be first.

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addseattle(15:36:44) :

Ugh!

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addseattle(15:37:19) :

Sorry – the “ugh!” was in response to the Pat B comments, not the announcement of the new thread!

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Goalie Sanka Palin in NM(15:39:41) :

RE: Pat and Sarah on the VP duties

It’s the Repug mantra….

Keep ’em stupid and uninformed! It’s easier to indoctrinate them when they’re in third grade!!

Chris was really spitting a bit tonight over those remarks…I love it when he gets agitated and does that!

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Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(15:41:30) :

rf11 (15:35:07) :

addseattle, EXACTLY! He kept dismissing her comment by saying “Chris, she was talking to third graders,” like who cares what she says to third graders.
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Chris clarified that Palin was talking to adults about a question she had taken from 3rd graders. Only place I have seen it addressed yet. Watch Olberman and Rachel cause I bet one of them covers it, too.

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Aussie Puck Mule Hussein(15:41:47) :

Joe and Heather Linwood NJ (09:35:01) :

A letter is very effective, not only because it shows you’ve gone out of your way – but someone has to file it and keep it, and potentially respond to it.

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Blue Lonestar(16:08:01) :

This comment is relating to investigation that showed Palin charged the state for her children to travel with her, including to events where they were not invited, and later amended expense reports to specify that they were on official business.

Many people said they like Palin because she is down to earth and they can identify with her. She’s not a Washington insider. McCian tooted her as a marverick and reformer who is not afraid to stand up to the good ol’boy network and has served as the top ethics watchdog in Alaska. He described her as someone with grit and integrity and devotion to the common good and stands up for what is right. I simply don’t understand why so many people brought that sale pitch. “ Top ethics watchdog”???? Did they not take a look at how she governed and operated as a mayor and governor? It is just mind boggling!

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sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party(16:13:05) :

Am I the only person who believes that everytime Sarah Palin goes out to “ruffle feathers,” she engages in unethical behavior?

As for Rush, instead of contacting advertisers, why not contact his ISP or email provider?

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j faith l(16:17:01) :

Kat & Laurie, etc.

My daughter referred me to Rose Levy Barenbaum’s Pie & Pastry Bible which calls for both baking powder & cider vinegar… me, I use the original American Heritage Cookbook recipe just using more butter than it calls for I’ve been doing that for at least 40 years…

I need some distraction from politics… been glued to the computer & NY Times for at least a month. Love the meese and the conversations…. delightful to see thoughts and experiences from all over in and out of the US.

Upstate in Delaware Cy NY this past weekend the robins were still migrating down from up north. They looked positively bewildered by the hard frost (20 degrees) when they awoke Sun. a.m.

Some older people without computers up there I spoke to still sound fearful of O. Their problem is that they have primarily one-sided sources. only the radio, TV and a couple of local papers for information. … You could tell when you were in a locality with weekenders’ homes ..sporadic O signs… but nothing more until you drove down towards New Paltz & into Orange County.

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Bea(17:05:34) :

Evening all. Thought I’d put up this link to a very good Obama fact sheet put together by Obama Moms. I think I’m going to print out a stack and carry them around with me to give out as needed:

mcsame wanted joe L on the ticket……..but the GOP said No because he was somewhat pro choice…….
if you google Focus on the Family ……..Big pro life group……..had a couple of cruise trips for the group last year to AK and palin had they over to dinner ……….they were very taken with her……..any decided with her view she should be on the ticket………..
of course this is me……….and I have no links………but it is on the net………i think buchanan and james dobson was there

Hmmmm .. know this is off the subject…
But .. I am not too savvy with Begich’s experience.
Does anyone know if he supported Pebble Mine or aerial killing?
I think I know his stance on native and fishery issues .. but if anyone can clarify … t’woud be helpful.
I contacted him .. but haven’t heard back.
Thanks ..

Even as Congresswoman Michele Bachmann tries to backpedal from her outrageous comments Friday, comments which have inspired more than a million dollars for our campaign in the last four days alone, people across the country are just beginning to learn the truth about Congresswoman Michele Bachmann’s long history of extreme and divisive views:
At a debate with El Tinklenberg earlier this month, she claimed immigrants are “bringing in disease and violence and every sort of difficulty” to this country.
In September 2008, Bachmann blamed the financial crisis on a federal program that awarded home mortgage loans “on the basis of race and often on little else.”
In February 2007, Bachmann told a newspaper that Iran had an agreement to take over half of Iraq, that a name had been chosen for that part of the region and that it would be used as a training ground for terrorists.
In March 2004, Bachmann said on the radio that failure to pass her Defense of Marriage Amendment in the Minnesota Senate would cause the gay community to start “specifically targeting our children.”
In a March, 2008 meeting she said “The big thing we are working on now is the global warming hoax. It’s all voodoo, nonsense, hokum, a hoax,”

The good news is the enormous fundraising disadvantage Tinklenberg had been facing is nearly erased. If you want to continue to boost this good man’s campaign against a woman more wicked than the Witches of the East and West combined, you can do so on his act blue page, here: