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Turtling needs to be bannable

If you can sit in the fountain and kite minions as an exploit, it should be treated as such. I know Riot has done a poor job balancing the map, but that shouldn't reward being bad.

I know you don't take inhib until you can win, and that's what we did this game. Unfortunately, we had a first time Skarner on our team who never ulted when he needed to and when we could have won at 25 minutes, we took inhibs and went for tower. There stood Ashe by herself shooting minions from the fountain, but Skarner wouldn't ult her. It was the most frustrating thing in the world, and the cycle continued until 72 minutes when we finally fought in lane and aced them.

Great, I won, but it took 72 minutes when we actually had them beat by 20 minutes easily. They refused to surrender, so it was forced to drag out. If I hadn't had time to sit here for 72 minutes, they would have easily won.

Skill should determine the outcome of the game all the time, not time and cheating. Fountain kiting should be bannable if Riot doesn't have the ability or the sense to fix it.

If you can sit in the fountain and kite minions as an exploit, it should be treated as such. I know Riot has done a poor job balancing the map, but that shouldn't reward being bad.

I know you don't take inhib until you can win, and that's what we did this game. Unfortunately, we had a first time Skarner on our team who never ulted when he needed to and when we could have won at 25 minutes, we took inhibs and went for tower. There stood Ashe by herself shooting minions from the fountain, but Skarner wouldn't ult her. It was the most frustrating thing in the world, and the cycle continued until 72 minutes when we finally fought in lane and aced them.

Great, I won, but it took 72 minutes when we actually had them beat by 20 minutes easily. They refused to surrender, so it was forced to drag out. If I hadn't had time to sit here for 72 minutes, they would have easily won.

Skill should determine the outcome of the game all the time, not time and cheating. Fountain kiting should be bannable if Riot doesn't have the ability or the sense to fix it.

Pulling minions into the fountain means that they aren't getting gold. Sure, the match takes longer, but they're falling even farther behind. I suppose it depends on who you're playing as, but once that tower goes down, you pretty much win (unless they had pushed your inhibs and turrets as well). It might've even been worth it to simply dive and kill the tower, even if it meant an ace on your team, since there's no way they could possibly counter-push and win. Then it's just a simple fix of hopping the wall and blowing up the Nexus.

If you can sit in the fountain and kite minions as an exploit, it should be treated as such. I know Riot has done a poor job balancing the map, but that shouldn't reward being bad.

I know you don't take inhib until you can win, and that's what we did this game. Unfortunately, we had a first time Skarner on our team who never ulted when he needed to and when we could have won at 25 minutes, we took inhibs and went for tower. There stood Ashe by herself shooting minions from the fountain, but Skarner wouldn't ult her. It was the most frustrating thing in the world, and the cycle continued until 72 minutes when we finally fought in lane and aced them.

Great, I won, but it took 72 minutes when we actually had them beat by 20 minutes easily. They refused to surrender, so it was forced to drag out. If I hadn't had time to sit here for 72 minutes, they would have easily won.

Skill should determine the outcome of the game all the time, not time and cheating. Fountain kiting should be bannable if Riot doesn't have the ability or the sense to fix it.

So effectively turtling, taking advantage of the increase in creep at your disposal, and using that advantage to eventually come back and win is not skill?