Rachel was 8 for 8 and the competition throughout the year was not sub-par. She beat the same number of Grade 1 horses (9) that Zenyatta beat. Zenyatta beat 8 in one race, Rachel beat hers across a number of races. Might want to include the Triple Crown Preakness in notable wins as well. Rest of summary I agree with.

Rachel was 8 for 8 and the competition throughout the year was not sub-par. She beat the same number of Grade 1 horses (9) that Zenyatta beat. Zenyatta beat 8 in one race, Rachel beat hers across a number of races. Might want to include the Triple Crown Preakness in notable wins as well. Rest of summary I agree with.

Zenyatta beat 13 G-1 horses this year and 11 in the Classic. I think Rachel beat sub-par horses except Summer Bird who I think is a fine animal so I take back the comment to a certain extent.

RA beat Summer Bird, MTB, and who else that have won a G-1? Are you talking about the sprinter who's name I cannot remember or Bullsbay? maybe 4 or 5. Can you name the other horses that have won a Grade-1 and we can stack them against the horses that Zenaytta has beaten.

Better yet, lets count the TOTAL NUMBER of Grade-1 wins by all of the horses that RA & Zenyatta beat. I'm sure Zenyatta wins that by a 3-1 margin.

This year or throughout their entire career?

If you do the latter, you'll need to factor in that Z is an older horse having faced older horses all year who have had longer careers and then divide the total number of Grade I wins by all of their competition combined by the total number of career starts made by all of their competition combined, right?

Just off the top of my head, of course only listing horses who were Grade I winners at the TIME Rachel beat them, which excludes one or two more who won after facing her, I got Pinoeer oftheNile, Mine That Bird, Summer Bird, Macho Again, Bullsbay, General Quarters. So that is six...not sure if I'm missing one.

Just realized too to deduct one more from Zenyatta as well, since Colonel John doesn't count.

Impossible to be fair and not split the outcome. Just completely different resume's with perfect outcomes. I'm not one to sit on the fence, but I really can't seperate their respective achievements. Both had historic years and it would be foolish to have either filly settle for runner-up...particularly when neither settled for that on the race course.

Impossible to be fair and not split the outcome. Just completely different resume's with perfect outcomes. I'm not one to sit on the fence, but I really can't seperate their respective achievements. Both had historic years and it would be foolish to have either filly settle for runner-up...particularly when neither settled for that on the race course.

I agree. I just think that Zenyatta gets the edge because she did something no other female has done, Win the CLASSIC. Rachel won the Preakness, done before. She won the Haskel, done before. She won the Woodward, Not sure if that has, however, Jerry Bailey did make a good point in saying the Woodward was easier than the Travers.

I agree. I just think that Zenyatta gets the edge because she did something no other female has done, Win the CLASSIC. Rachel won the Preakness, done before. She won the Haskel, done before. She won the Woodward, Not sure if that has, however, Jerry Bailey did make a good point in saying the Woodward was easier than the Travers.

Two point and, of course, you are entitled to your opinion: 1. Rachel's connections chose the Woodward over the Travers, I believe solely to have that all-important race against older horses, should HOY be in debate; and 2. The history of the Preakness goes back 136 years compared with the 25 of the Classic. I just think it becomes senseless to split hairs when comparing two overwhelming champions.

I'm back on team Zenyatta! I've always enjoyed watching her race, more than Rachel.

Rachel makes it look so easy when she runs, I expected her to win her races. But with Zenyatta, in her last three races (especially the BC Classic), I didn't think she had a chance. Her deep closing running style makes for exciting races to watch. In everyone of her races, I think she'll never catch up in time, and she proves me wrong (and costs me money) time and time again. I've never placed a wager on Zenyatta, yet everytime I've seen her race I find myself cheering her on to win. I'm never sorry to lose some cash against such a magnificent horse as Zenyatta.

Zenyatta made history yesterday and its a race I'll never forget. Don't get me wrong, Rachel Alexandra also brought some memorable moments to horse racing this year. But she also has more years of racing ahead of her to make her marks in history. She now has to aim to be the second mare to win the BC Classic. Zenyatta deserves one final trophy and that's HOY!

I agree. I just think that Zenyatta gets the edge because she did something no other female has done, Win the CLASSIC. Rachel won the Preakness, done before. She won the Haskel, done before. She won the Woodward, Not sure if that has, however, Jerry Bailey did make a good point in saying the Woodward was easier than the Travers.

No other female has won the Woodward, in 50-something runnings. The Classic has been around for 24 years. No filly had won the Preakness in 90-something years.