Provisional Shot for possible OB - www.DiscGolfersR.Us2015-03-03T20:29:17Zhttp://discgolfer.ning.com/forum/topics/provisional-shot-for-possible?groupUrl=pdgarulesinterpetations&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI agree with Krupicka....You…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2009-03-26:1809917:Comment:17027742009-03-26T15:44:39.371ZJamie 'gr8rocshot' Ruanehttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/gr8rocshot
I agree with Krupicka....You made the choice on the tee. There really is no loop hole here. No way are you be able to choose the best shot of the two after the fact....of course, if your original was found inbounds..the provisional is null and void.<br />
Now, if you walked up and found that your disc was ob...then decided to go back and re-throw...fine, but your stuck with the outcome of that re-throw....you wouldn't have a choice in this case to take either lie.<br />
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I would agree that the PDGA should…
I agree with Krupicka....You made the choice on the tee. There really is no loop hole here. No way are you be able to choose the best shot of the two after the fact....of course, if your original was found inbounds..the provisional is null and void.<br />
Now, if you walked up and found that your disc was ob...then decided to go back and re-throw...fine, but your stuck with the outcome of that re-throw....you wouldn't have a choice in this case to take either lie.<br />
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I would agree that the PDGA should define the Provisional Shot rule better with some do and don't examples Sooo...the only time you'd EV…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2009-03-26:1809917:Comment:17025982009-03-26T13:10:30.702ZBrandon Swansonhttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/BrandonSwanson
Sooo...the only time you'd EVER want to do this then would be if you think you MIGHT have gone into water, but cannot be sure, thus it would be a lost disc and a re-tee anyway, or if you crossed into OB right off the tee and you wouldn't want to throw from that spot and you weren't sure if the disc ever crossed back IB. I'll remember this the next time some plotting individual suggests a provisional!
Sooo...the only time you'd EVER want to do this then would be if you think you MIGHT have gone into water, but cannot be sure, thus it would be a lost disc and a re-tee anyway, or if you crossed into OB right off the tee and you wouldn't want to throw from that spot and you weren't sure if the disc ever crossed back IB. I'll remember this the next time some plotting individual suggests a provisional! Bill,
I'm glad you decided n…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2009-03-26:1809917:Comment:17016562009-03-26T00:10:58.872ZKen Longhttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/Ken50
Bill,<br />
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I'm glad you decided <b>not</b> to throw a provisional on that particular hole. Nice move.<br />
K.
Bill,<br />
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I'm glad you decided <b>not</b> to throw a provisional on that particular hole. Nice move.<br />
K. Agreed with krupicka...the an…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2009-03-25:1809917:Comment:17014002009-03-25T22:07:24.926ZJChttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/JC17393
Agreed with krupicka...the answer is that you made your choice by throwing the provisional in the first place. You don't get to wait until you determine the status of the original shot once the provisional is thrown. To throw a provisional, you need to have a specific reason. In this case, you're saying that it's "just in case" the original shot is OB. So what you are doing is saying that if the disc is found OB, then your subsequent shot (your third as it were) is the provisional. If the…
Agreed with krupicka...the answer is that you made your choice by throwing the provisional in the first place. You don't get to wait until you determine the status of the original shot once the provisional is thrown. To throw a provisional, you need to have a specific reason. In this case, you're saying that it's "just in case" the original shot is OB. So what you are doing is saying that if the disc is found OB, then your subsequent shot (your third as it were) is the provisional. If the original shot is not OB, then the provisional is ignored since it is unnecessary (not the appropriate lie according to the rules). Once you throw the provisiona…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2009-03-25:1809917:Comment:17013562009-03-25T21:47:30.325Zkrupickahttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/krupicka
Once you throw the provisional if the disc was OB, you have already chosen your relief if the disc was indeed OB. There is no loop hole here.
Once you throw the provisional if the disc was OB, you have already chosen your relief if the disc was indeed OB. There is no loop hole here. Wow, great scenario Bill. I'm…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2009-03-25:1809917:Comment:17013422009-03-25T21:42:29.345ZBrandon Swansonhttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/BrandonSwanson
Wow, great scenario Bill. I'm utterly baffled by this one. It seems a bit of a loophole if it is as you are describing, but in looking at the rules, I think I'd have to tenatively agree with you to always throw the provisional so that you have clearer options. I'll have to look into this one a little myself.
Wow, great scenario Bill. I'm utterly baffled by this one. It seems a bit of a loophole if it is as you are describing, but in looking at the rules, I think I'd have to tenatively agree with you to always throw the provisional so that you have clearer options. I'll have to look into this one a little myself.