I'll add another "aye" on Jarlsberg, although it does tend to create some odd mental images about the Viking Swiss.

I finally learned about those softer cheeses. Cause, I agree, they are yucky. (Actually, I think most dairy is skirting the edge of yucky much of the time, I'm a mutant.) But you take that yucky cheese and you put it on that yucky rabbit food and suddenly you have something fit for lunch.

Really, really odd.

So there's my testament to the Magic of Cheese.

The Lady with a Lamprey

"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri

gunsmith wrote:OR will the shroomed out hippie who happens to have the remembered reading the screwball lit imagine that he now has the duty to get himself shot trying to enforce this ill thought out/illegal policy?

If you shoot a hippie for telling you he's not going to let you through the gate unless you hand over your gun, you're probably looking at murder if you're any good with the thing.

gunsmith wrote:THE GUN WILL NEVER BE CONFISCATED!!!

That's all folks! NV is an open carry state- guns are a fact of life for most desert folks ( including black rock rangers and senior dpw and perimeter )

I carry my own, but, it's perfectly easy for them to say you can't come into the Burning Man event, because they have the legal right to prevent you from entry or kick you out. Also remember that the Black Rock Desert is federal land. It's not like you're going to pull your weapon on them because they say you can't win, and if you did, well... you wouldn't enjoy your burn.

So, basically, it's just like going to see a concert where they frisk you and don't let you in. If you don't like it, don't go. They can legally prevent you from entering with a weapon.

"The Red Baron is smart.. He never spends the whole night dancing and drinking root beer.. "-The WWI Flying Ace

teardropper wrote:The purpose of a sledge hammer is for Cool Hand Luke to break rocks. The purpose of a car is for Cool Hand Luke to escape. The purpose of a carbon arc torch is to cut off Cool Hand Luke's manacles. The purpose of a gun is to kill Cool Hand Luke.

[Yes, I know that's not exactly like the movie, but, well, it works...]

teardropper wrote:If a gun is not for shooting, killing, if you will, and sledgehammer can kill, too, then why don't you carry a sledgehammer? Or run into them with your killing car? Because they're not as good at killing. You carry a gun because, when you feel the need, it is far more efficient at killing.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Wow.Reply notice fails and the thread drift drifts.

I'm guessing you mean handgun by gun?Actually a handgun isn't that efficient at killing.You want a rifle for that.

What a handgun does well is conceal and work from a distance, which is more of an advantage for defense than killing.Because of that distance, those less willing to use violence have a chance of dealing with the more violent people in our society.

It requires less skill than a bow or knife to be effective and strength has little effect on one's ability to use it.

Very small women and elderly people in wheelchairs have good reason to want adequate defense, and have a right to it.Lack of strength or agility can limit one's use of improvisational weapons.

And, by the way, improvised weapons are taught for defense even in our military. Use of such weapons in impoverished or repressed countries shows that guns are not necessary for violence.I think gasoline is a favorite these days.

You may be surprised by how often charges are filed for deliberate homicide with vehicles in this country too.The only guns that can compete with a vehicle for destruction are artillery.

How easy is it to weaponize something?

These examples are accidental, but the seeming banality is telling.One burglar is jammed in a door,The other breaks in through the floor, and is trapped by the springiness of the board.Since I have trapped hands and feet this way, it's a bit chilling.I have had to use a bar to free myself.

A CAREER burglar famed for his skill at breaking into buildings died after getting jammed in a doorway.

Michael McNamara 37, was surrounded by the property he had stolen after ransacking a flat.

The speed with which he could get in and out of houses had earned him the nickname The Rabbit.

But on his final break-in he could not move at all, trapped for at least two hours in the gap of a partially-opened door.

Unknown to him a picture frame had jammed against the bottom part of the door and the wall on the other side.

As he forced his head and shoulders through a gap at the top half of the door, his body fell forward. He was trapped agonisingly in a vicelike grip between the half-open door and door frame.

I think, the most interesting cheese I ever ate, was in Finland.
I can't remember the Finnish name, but, it translates to "Squeaky cheese".......and, is made from the colostrum of reindeer.
and, it does squeak when you bits and chew it.
nice, mild flavor.

teardropper wrote:If a gun is not for shooting, killing, if you will, and sledgehammer can kill, too, then why don't you carry a sledgehammer? Or run into them with your killing car? Because they're not as good at killing. You carry a gun because, when you feel the need, it is far more efficient at killing.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Wow.Reply notice fails and the thread drift drifts.

I'm guessing you mean handgun by gun?Actually a handgun isn't that efficient at killing.You want a rifle for that.

teardropper wrote:The purpose of a sledge hammer is for Cool Hand Luke to break rocks. The purpose of a car is for Cool Hand Luke to escape. The purpose of a carbon arc torch is to cut off Cool Hand Luke's manacles. The purpose of a gun is to kill Cool Hand Luke.

Some things work better, some worse.

Without a judgment as to whether this is good or bad, I am saying that all those things can kill. All can kill. But the only one whose actual PURPOSE is to kill is a gun.

This is, of course, thread drift. The thread is about bringing guns to BM, partly. That purpose is probably why they are not allowed.

But they let me have my bullwhip.

This is thread drift, too:

This cheese is from around where I grew up, in Iowa. Made by the same family that made the washers. Each wheel is handmade and aged in caves. I like it with a good old growth Zinfandel, maybe a Ridge, and water wafers.

I have no idea why guns, traditional at burning man, are now prohibited.

My first guess would be that it is easier to insure a flamethrower than a gun.
Other than that, I could make guesses.

And a handgun's purpose is not primarily to kill, though it can obviously be used that way.
The primary purpose is to have a weapon handy, in case of need.
For a legal carrier, that would be for self defense.

It doesn't matter anyway.

I would note that most people have totally missed gunsmith's point, being a vague policy that may result in increased risk.

I'm really more baffled that anyone would want to bring drugs or alcohol to burning man.
It all seems adequately entertaining to me.

This cheese is from around where I grew up, in Iowa. Made by the same family that made the washers. Each wheel is handmade and aged in caves. I like it with a good old growth Zinfandel, maybe a Ridge, and water wafers.