SOUTH YORKSHIRE, U.K. — A Christian who had been studying to be a social worker at a prominent university in the United Kingdom has lost his expulsion appeal surrounding a post on his personal Facebook page where he outlined the biblical stance on homosexuality.

As previously reported, last September, Felix Ngole, 38, had posted on his private page—which is only able to be viewed by his friends—his support for Kentucky clerk Kim Davis and outlined what the Scriptures state about sexuality, citing the biblical law in Leviticus.

However, nearly two months later, Ngole’s post was brought to the attention of administrators at the University of Sheffield in South Yorkshire, which touts itself as a “world top-100 university and number one in the U.K. for student satisfaction in the 2014-15 Times Higher Student Experience Survey.”

Ngole, who was a second-year Master’s student, then became the subject of a “Fitness to Practice” hearing, as he was advised that he “may have caused offence to some individuals” and had “transgressed boundaries which are not deemed appropriate for someone entering the social work profession.”

Following additional meetings, the Sheffield committee concluded that Ngole’s beliefs would negatively affect his “ability to carry out a role as a social worker,” and was consequently advised that he was “excluded from further study on a program leading to a professional qualification.” The school recently informed Ngole that he is “no longer recognized as a university student.”

“Your student record will be terminated shortly and your library membership and university computer account withdrawn. You may wish to contact your funding body for advice on your financial position,” it wrote.

Ngole appealed the decision, but this week, he received a letter from the appeals office at the University of Sheffield stating that his post was “inappropriate” in light of the professional conduct standards outlined in the Health and Care Professions Councils (HCPC).

It was additionally asserted that Ngole had not “offered any insight or reflection” on the “potential impact” that his comment might have had on his Facebook friends, or how it would reflect on the social work profession.

“Like every other student at university, I use social media to communicate and express personal views. In my Facebook posts in question, I simply expressed support for the biblical view of marriage and sexuality,” Ngole said in a statement on Friday. “However, I was reported to the university for these views and they unilaterally decided to end my course. In so doing, they ended my training for my chosen vocation in life.”

He plans to pursue further legal action over the matter.

“[M]y case raises all sorts of legal questions as to whether Christians can any longer hold traditional biblical and moral beliefs and still enter mainstream professions such as social work, medicine, teaching and law in this country,” Ngole said.

“We have become used to registrars, nurses, teachers, magistrates and counselors being disciplined in their jobs for acting according to conscience, but this is the very first time a Christian student has been stopped even before he enters his chosen vocation to hep others—simply for holding traditional Christian views on marriage and sexuality,” added Andrea Williams, president of the Christian Legal Centre, which is providing assistance to Ngole. “This case raises fundamental issues, which is why taking further action is vital.”

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Gott Mit Uns!

Some people are simply not cut out for certain professions. Would you want to ride in a limousine driven by a blind chauffeur?

Guest

Mr. Ngole is neither blind nor a chauffeur, so your analogy is a false one.

Gott Mit Uns!

Much like comparing homosexuality with pedophelia.

Guest

Where did you see my compare homosexuality to pedophilia? Why are you making things up?

Gott Mit Uns!

Your colleagues do it all the time.

Amos Moses

Many admit to being molested by men as CHILDREN and to molesting …….so……..

Gott Mit Uns!

Last time I was on Christian forums I was informed that the homosexual population has now been whittled down to 1% of the population, so it can’t be that many.

Amos Moses

Again,,,,,,,,,so what? Sin is sin….. it does not change “by the numbers”………..

mrpoohead

….and they’ll mostly be ministers and priests, but God thankfully is on their side.

Amos Moses

Yes a certain number will, but most won’t, they will be your baby sitter…….

mrpoohead

….and then the church will defend them. Why?

Amos Moses

Not my church, and i don’t.

mrpoohead

Well let me know what branch of church and we’ll see.

Amos Moses

Christian

mrpoohead

Well that incorporates Catholics – not the greatest advert for being “nice”

Amos Moses

Not really………….

mrpoohead

Catholics aren’t Christians or aren’t nice?

Amos Moses

There are some Catholics that are christians, but not all Catholics are christians. It is more than just lip service to the word christian.

mrpoohead

I take it you include yourself in the latter group considering how bigoted you are – even the Catholics now bless same-sex marriage.

Amos Moses

“Catholics now bless same-sex marriage”

Ahhhh…. no they do not….if you can take the popes word of recent days….. he said there is no equality in a marriage (1 man and 1 woman) and what homosexuals call “marriage”. i am not a fan of the pope but when he is right..he is right.

Amos Moses

Pope Francis:
“We need to acknowledge the great variety of family situations that can offer a certain stability, but de facto or same-sex unions, for example, may not simply be equated with marriage. No union that is temporary or closed to the transmission of life can ensure the future of society.”
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“In this document, Pope Francis has continued the characterization of LGBT people as unable to fully reflect the fullness of God’s plan for humanity,” Marianne Duddy-Burke, executive director of the nonprofit group Dignity­USA, said in a statement. “We had hoped for much more, and many, many people are profoundly disappointed today.”

Others, though, argued that the pope went too far in appeasing liberals, offering his flock loose discipline. Rose Sweet, a U.S.-based Catholic marriage counselor and writer, suggested that the pope was treating sinners like coddled children.

“We’re dealing with very immature, uninformed people who want Papa Francisco to give them what they want,” she said. “And they don’t want it too hard, and they will love him for it. And they’ll say, ‘You’re like Jesus; you’re so merciful.’ But here’s the thing: What real mercy is, it’s not letting people off the hook.”

Amos Moses

Using some of his most powerful language to date, Pope Francis has joined the American College of Pediatricians in denouncing the transgender ideology behind contemporary ideas of fluid sexual identity among children.

In his new letter on marriage and the family, Amoris Laetitia (“The Joy of Love”), Francis said that sex education should teach “respect and appreciation” for sexual differences, as a way of helping the young to overcome self-absorption. This respect includes self-acceptance and learning to embrace the body one is born with, rather than playing with fictional identities that deny reality.

In a convergence of faith and science, the Pope said that especially when experiencing difficulties with gender identity, “the young need to be helped to accept their own body as it was created,” a proposal encouraged by the physicians of the American College of Pediatricians.

Thinking that we enjoy “absolute power over our own bodies,” Francis warned, leads to the delusion that “we enjoy absolute power over creation.”

“An appreciation of our body as male or female,” he added, is “necessary for our own self-awareness in an encounter with others different from ourselves.”

An effort to cancel out sexual differences based in anatomy is a symptom of a society that “no longer knows how to deal with it,” he wrote.

Again, i am not a fan,,,,,but when he is right……he is right.

mrpoohead

Obviously he hasn’t passed on the message to the Old Catholics.

Guest

And just who are my colleagues, and why are you having trouble staying on topic?

Gott Mit Uns!

Don’t play innocent. (See Amos Moses)

Guest

???? You are having an extremely hard time with logic, aren’t you? Address the issues, or don’t post at all.

Pererin

Why should a Christian not be cut out to be social worker? Wouldn’t it be discriminatory to suggest that a Christian cannot be a social worker?

I find this extremely disturbing. The more society moves away from Christian values, the more occupations Christians will ‘not be cut out for’. How long before Christians can no longer be teachers, politicians or doctors? We daren’t subject people to the possibility of being faced with a…. C-C-CHRISTIAN!!!

Gott Mit Uns!

He can apply at a different school.

Pererin

He could, as long as they refund his tuition fees and compensate him for wasting his time. But what about when there are no longer any schools or occupations available for Christians?

Gott Mit Uns!

I’m sure he’s not the only Christian student at that school. Why were all the other Christian students not expelled? If he wants a religion-based school, he has every opportunity to seek one out.

Pererin

Because they probably hadn’t broken the golden secular rule of stating forbidden biblical scripture. We’ll tolerate you as long as you leave your faith at the door. Otherwise, discrimination, here we come!

Nope no religious schools in the UK I’m afraid. It’s not like the US. Turned from God a long time ago. Way further down the secular road than the US unfortunately.

Gott Mit Uns!

Since it’s an institution of higher learning, there’s nothing wrong with leaving your “faith” at the door. Additionally, there are plenty of Bible verses to post on Facebook that are not discriminatory towards minorities.

Pererin

Really, why should faith be left at the door at an institute of higher learning?

Does Facebook not allow all Bible verses? Odd.

Gott Mit Uns!

Well, it’s his choice, but he must play by the rules like everyone else.

Pererin

Really, please enlighten me to the rules of yours.

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

Most social workers work for the govt. Most Western govts pander for votes n hv become pro-LGBTQs n anti-Christians bc Christians r politically divided, eg the liberal Blue States vs the conservative Red States or Methodist Hillary Clinton(D) vs Presbyterian Donald Trump(R) in USA.

http://www.bing.com/ Martin Smit

Nice brown shirt you have there. Suits you.

Charlene Laguer

Satan is hard at work in every facet of life but we as Christians cannot allow his deceptive and destructive tactics to deter us in what God has called us to do. God has called us to be ambassadors for Christ, regardless of various types of persecutions we face. I commend this dear brother for standing up for Christ and for speaking the truth of God’s Word. His Word will never return void and we do not suffer for Christ in vain. May God bless him.

mrpoohead

Biblical Law thankfully is no longer enforced anywhere – we’d have the death penalty for disobeying your parents, blasphemy and adultery for starters. Hands up if you haven’t done at least one of them. And, for not being a virgin on your wedding night – girls only. The Bible – not always the best guide to life.

Grace Kim Kwon

That disobeying the parents and committing blasphemy was a national treason which puts millions of lives at stake. ( I Samuel ch. 2) Treason gets you death penalty in most nations even today. Biblical laws give rapists due justice; Jesus gave sexual offenders more time for repentance. The sexually sinful gets the OT justice soon or later and that’s why Christians call everyone for repentance. ( Revelation ch. 22) Brides need to be virgin because men consume their life for women. No man dies for prostitutes because prostitutes betray men all the time. Boys who grow up knowing only prostitutes harm all girls. Read the entire Bible before ranting ignorance. Yes, the Holy Bible is the sole best guide for all mankind. the moral chaos in the Post-christian West and its servant nations is the clearest proof.

mrpoohead

Didn’t mention treason or rape – death for the one’s I mentioned is abhorrent and not worthy of any God. So I wasn’t ignorant – thankfully we do not live under Biblical Law or I’d have to turn my wife in. Not a virgin on her wedding night (thank God), but definitely a witch. The Bible is an ancient tomb with some nice moral codes and some rather appalling ideas. Time has moved on – phew! You are a nutter!

Grace Kim Kwon

You are wrong; you have no rights to push your immorality upon others. People have rights to be moral without being mocked from others. You guys are like prostitutes who mock maidens for being pure; that’s so sad. God condemns magic and witchcraft, too. Man must live for God’s glory and His truth instead of sexual depravity. Secular nations only live for immorality because they lost Christianity. Don’t strengthen yourself for doing evil. You definitely need to read the Holy Bible and repent of your sins. Prostitutes also kill babies.

mrpoohead

Magic/witchcraft – not real. I like to consider myself a prostitute but suspect no one will buy. Fingers crossed, but you have to have escaped from some cult in the middle of nowhere. Extreme or what! Folk like you are the reason people are turning away and the very reason I removed my daughters from Scripture Class – it is not supposed to be a political speech but a guide to being a good citizen. And people have the right to blaspheme and woman deserve a safe place if they require an abortion and gay people are just different not evil. Nutter! Jesus, Jesus, Jesus!

Grace Kim Kwon

You need the Holy Bible for salvation and morality. The Western civilization has no morality apart from Christianity. Humanism only kills human babies.

mrpoohead

And you need to get out more. Biblical Law, as awful as Sharia.

Grace Kim Kwon

Anyone who is unrepentant will get Biblical Laws’ justice at the end; that’s why Christians call everyone for repentance as Jesus did. Jesus gave more time to criminals for repentance and a chance to live a new life; that’s what Christians do.

mrpoohead

Really, have you read what people write on this site? They condemn Muslims, LGBT and abortionists – there’s very little forgiveness or acceptance. Bigots in other words. Have you considered SpecsRUs?

Grace Kim Kwon

You are wrong. Only the Biblical Christians provide everyone rights and liberty and safety. All others conduct gross injustice in one way or another. The Holy Bible condemns destroying of infidels, forcing of sexual immorality, and killing of innocent humans. The Western pervs are the unprecedented mega bigots in the Western nations. You guys prohibit even the existence of objective truth.

mrpoohead

“You guys” Just who or what do you think I am?
Destruction of infidels – try Deuteronomy 17:1-5The First Testament, you silly cow, is also part of the Jewish and Muslim books – after all it is the same God.
Objective truth of what – my interpretation of the Bible is social responsibility, forgiveness and acceptance. Biblical law no longer required, we’ve moved along – ditto Sharia, if someone could tell the Saudi’s please.

Grace Kim Kwon

You are a secularist who supports blasphemy and Sodomy and infanticide uncondionally. The Bible passage is about national traitors who’d put millions of lives at stake. Even today, most nations excute such people. Read the entire text before ranting your ignorance. Bible-less secular nations blaspheme, kill unborn babies and sell their body parts, and persecute the religious people because we refuse to serve your mentally-ill per-version. Forgiveness is a mere injustice apart from Christ; judicial justice has nothing to do with personal forgiveness. Your secular acceptance is only about sexual depravity and nothing else. You need the Holy Bible for human rights, equality, liberty, and justice.

mrpoohead

All, but America in the Western world have moved on from execution for anything, as have most other countries – even Cuba.

Deuteronomy 13:6-17 too.

No country operates Biblical Law – thankfully. And only one operates Sharia. We are more educated, more liberal, less brutal. My secular acceptance is about race, sex and religion. The Bible is not fair by today’s standards.

Grace Kim Kwon

1) No, murderers still get executed especially the mass murderers like national traitors.

2) You are not civilized; you used to bully the colored people before, but today you bully the Christians instead and ruin the children by being tattooed nudist sex addicts. You only changed the victims for your inclination to sexual immorality. You are only better in hiding racism on the surface level, but the Westerners of former years are much more moral and superior than today’s. You guys are being bad kids to your own forefathers. They didn’t battle to create a Sodom on earth. They created USA to spread Christianity, the only life-giving religion. I prefer the Western racists over the Western sexual pervs because the latter causes the greater evil upon everyone on earth. Everyone is a racist anyway.

3) The Holy Bible liberates and educates all. Your entertainment shows how brutal and barbaric you truly are. Mankind did not know that men and women and different races are equal under God, until the Holy Bible taught them so. Anything good you have is stolen from the Holy Bible. You don’t read; that’s why you don’t know where your thinkers stole all the noble ideas from. It’s the Holy Bible. Today’s secular West needs the Holy Bible for truth and sanity more than ever. You need to repent of your sins to get saved.

mrpoohead

1/ Not outside of America in the Western world – duh! America is unfortunately still rather puritanical and backward.
2/Sorry, not tattooed – yuk! Would like to be sex addict, but children got in the way. You’re right the old guys had slavery and religious persecution, much better – not! USA was not created to spread Christianity – the English were colonising the world, duh! Biblical law, as appalling as Sharia, which is why it isn’t practised. I ain’t a racist, I hate everybody.
3/If the Bible liberated then it would not care what race, sex or religion anyone was – just acceptance and forgiveness. Yes, we really need Biblical Law so that we can justify stoning idiots like you and anyone else I don’t like. Secular, every nation (bar one) in the world is secular – East or West. You are a bit dim
Are you an agent of China – you’re not very good. Bit mad really!

Grace Kim Kwon

1) You are wrong. USA is the last stronghold for liberty in the Western nations. It was created for spreading of Christianity like all newer Western nations. Read their fouding documents and anthems. You guys are just meaningless apart from Christianity.

2) No, your old guys were not pervs like your generation is. They made people pick cottons but did not enslave children for sex. Your generation makes sex slaves all over the world, not cotton pickers. Shame on you. The British were Christian and they brought lawfulness into the world. Pagans were savages and USA was still primitive at that time. Americans got everything civilized from the Britons. Mankind did not know men and women were equal until the Holy Bible taught them. Rights and equality and liberty are strictly Christian teachings. British thinkers rephrased the ideas of the Holy Bible. Your ancient Greeks were mere porn addicts just like today’s nones. You must not hate anyone.

3) In the Christendom alone, personal forgiveness and judicial justice co-exist. Nowhere else. You don’t know much about real world because you’ve been spoiled by the gentle civilized Christians for the longest time. Secularism is a mere moral chaos when it does not have Christianity. Today’s West has proven it.

4) Stop insulting the Chinese. You enslaved them for your stupid railroads before. And unlike you, the Chinese never had freedom. You secular Westerners are never sorry for your civilization’s greed and crimes. The world needed Western missionaries, but not the Western pervs. Pervs are detrimental to children. You need to repent of your evil against the Christians. Read the Holy Bible instead of being bad.

David Anfinrud

As a Christian in the United States I see the secular segment demanding Christians to allow their rules to replace the Bible. I see that Man rules are considered better than Biblical ones.

I am a firm believer that Biblical Standards are better than those of Man. Christ taught us to be selfless. Man is normally very selfish. I see many in our society demanding everything for free. Nothing is free. But they believe that they can get things for free because it is man’s Desire.
The world is turning its back on the Biblical truths. Did you know that in IRAQ and SYRIA a large number of Muslims are becoming Christian. Because of the Truths in the Bible. They know the dangers they face. I heard one report that IRAN may be the fast growing Christian population in the world.

As the Bible states When man turns to doing mans desires he takes away his blessings and protections. And man get worse and worse in what he does. No controls, no morals. Just ME me me DEMANDS. The moral code in the Bible was the foundation of the US Constitution and its Government. Now government wants to control Religious activities. Make demands that the Christian Church follow their orders. Many churches are doing that and appear to become more and more like the Seventh Church in Revelation. They are taking their members to Hell not guiding them to Heaven.

mrpoohead

Yes bring back Biblical Law – death for adultery, not being a virgin on your wedding night (girls only), blasphemy, disobeying ones parents and witchcraft. Very rational! Only one country in the world is not secular – not a good idea.

If Iranians and Syrians are turning to the Bible it is a good way to get out of the country, however you are wrong in Iraq, well the increase is because people have crossed the border from Iran not people turning. Leave them alone – there’s nothing wrong with Islam, they even worship the same God.

Grace Kim Kwon

You need theocracy because your hedonism is out of control.

mrpoohead

No we need morality with a dollop of common sense. You are a nut-job!

mrpoohead

1/ Please prove this – I have given you a counter argument, justify yours.
2/ Depends how old you mean – currently lots of Christian teachers are going to prison for sex crimes against children. Nothing wrong with paganism – do you know what it means? The Bible did not teach equality – any kind.
3/ I interpret the bible as forgiveness and acceptance, but folk on this site say “no”. Bigotry is the way.
4/ Chinese worked on railroads and got paid, not slaves. China is one of the most racist countries in the world. Chairman Mao was a sexual pervert and child molester. Secularism is rampant – all but one nation is secular.

Obviously you haven’t lived much, nor seen much of anything. America is the toilet of the Western world. Get a life and grow up.

Grace Kim Kwon

1) Read Mayflower Compact and the Declaration of Independence and national anthems. You guys are not fit for America.
2) You are wrong. The Westerners were just demon-worshipping child-sacrificing iliterate savages like the rest when they had no Christianity. The Church gave them education and civility. Secularism made everyone sex-crazy. Being rich makes people corrupt as well. Christianity has the only outstanding virtues among all. Your civilization has nothing worthy apart from Christianity.
3) Your interpretation is wrong. Read the whole Bible like an honest human being. Read even the whole chapter of John 3. God’s wrath is upon the evil unrepentant sinners. What you have is secular Western hedonism, nothing of any religion or anything decent.
4) You abused the Chinese people. It’s the Christian missionaries who gave them the Word of Life. Mao was atheist and that’s why he did what he did. Atheists always kill.
5) USA is better than other Western nations regarding morality. USA was the defender of the truth, liberty, and fairness until decades ago. Inclination to sexual depravity made people crazy. Europe and America need Judeo-Christian values for salvation, morality, and sanity. You have no other decent values. Humanism only kills. God will bring His justice upon all sinful nations, as the Holy Bible declares so.

mrpoohead

1/ “all men are created equal…” unless you’re black or a minority and back then female. You’re right the Old Guys knew best.
2/ You have a very interesting idea of paganism – mostly seasonal worship, which the Christians stole.
3/ John was gay.
4/ Did not. You were abused by your own Chiang Kai Shek and Mao. Atheists do not always kill, they merely religiously believe in no religion – oxymoron!
5/ Obviously you haven’t been to the US – I have travelled extensively throughout the world. America is the toilet of the Western World. It has the worst social mobility and a social disparity on par with China’s. Plus a homicide rate equal to Third World countries – five to ten times that of the rest of the West.

Please do not believe all you are told by idiotic American missionaries who have lost their heads up their own orifices. You do not need God to have good values, it is merely the icing on the cake – not the cake. Get a life!

Nidalap

Ah, University. Former home of expansion of thought. Now, territory of the thought police…

Grace Kim Kwon

So sad. UK is supposed to be a defender of Christian faith. The Westerners used to give colored people hard time because of their average racism, but now the Western nations single out the Biblical Christians for bullying and persecuting. Only the target groups for victimization have changed. At this rate, the West will have to ban the Holy Bible and all existing religions for them to continue pursuing the establishment of their godless Sodomic dystopia on Planet Earth. What waste of humanity and all of history and all the battles for objective truth and liberty for human conscience. The West must stop its unconditional support of immorality. People have rights to God’s truth and to morality and a clear conscience. The West is never sorry for its colonialism. Secularists are never sorry for sins and their decadence. They think they can tame anyone with their filth. Sin is slavery. Christians in free world must work hard to protect everyone’s life and liberty. No rights for Christians in the West = Sodom’s despicable reign.

Grace Kim Kwon

The world should be thankful UK wasn’t a sexual perv when the Britons ruled most of the world. The Christian Britons had massive amount of things for the world to learn and imitate. Now, no submission to Sodom. No slavery to humans again. Man must submit to God. Obtain the Holy Bible for rights and liberty and purity.

Jack McEachern

It is tragically ironic that since Europe has turned her back to Christ she has opened her arms to Allah. Europe doesn’t want to be governed by the principles of Jesus? Then she will submit under the boot of Islam. How incredibly sad.

Grace Kim Kwon

Man needs the Holy Bible for freedom then and now. Mankind must not become a obedient dog to the Western pervs by submitting to their Sodomic culture. No slavery to human villains again; that was the meaning of all the struggles the Britons and Americans of yesteryears won for all mankind. Stay free by reading the Holy Bible and by submitting to God alone. ( Revelation ch. 22) UK was great only because the nation had the knowledge of the great God, the God whom the Holy Bible teaches. There is only a shame and moral chaos in today’s Sodom. The West needs Christianity for salvation and sane morality.

mrpoohead

He also needs idiots like you to sacrifice at the altar, preferably with blood-letting, followed by de-capitation.

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