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Some of you may have noticed, but the site went offline for a bit today.

Long story short it's because we needed to renew our web-hosting subscription. The rate for us yearly is about $150, which isn't too bad if everyone that can pitches in a tiny bit. Even $150 split 15 ways is only $10 per person, which isn't much at all.

Don't worry, the site isn't going anywhere, but we do appreciate any financial help we can get. If you can spare it, the link is up top in the main menu bar marked Donations (http://atheistforums.com/index.php?action=treasury), but here is the link as well. http://atheistforums.com/index.php?action=treasury

I'm trying here, but I can't remember my PayPal password, and attempts to reset it are failing. I'm following directions, and they send me special codes, and then tell me I'm entering the wrong code. My bank information is from 10 years ago and is no longer valid, and I can't change it. They are closed on weekends, so I can't call them to yell at people until Monday.

I'm trying here, but I can't remember my PayPal password, and attempts to reset it are failing. I'm following directions, and they send me special codes, and then tell me I'm entering the wrong code. My bank information is from 10 years ago and is no longer valid, and I can't change it. They are closed on weekends, so I can't call them to yell at people until Monday.

Better yet, can I use my credit card or send Wolf a check?

Thanks

You should be able to use a Credit card even if you don't have a paypal account. In the paypal donation link there should be an option for you to use your credit card in the paypal page that you are forwarded to

Yeah, I tried to use my credit card, but they have a card of mine on file from years ago, and it's no longer the same number. I tried putting in a new number, and that didn't work, although I can't remember why. Frankly, the whole process was confusing me all the way through. I'll try again, and see if I can get it to work. Otherwise, I'll try to straighten it out on Monday over the phone.

Thanks, that works. Just avoid clicking on PayPal altogether, and go right to "Debit or Credit Card" tab. The PayPal icon is distracting and makes it appear that it's your only option to make a donation. Once you click on PayPal, PayPal wants to step in and manage your money, taking money out of your bank, or activating your credit card as a completely unnecessary and complicated third party. I think I used PayPal once in my life, when some eBay seller would only take money through PayPal. It was a pain setting it up back then, with banks and credit sources I no longer use, and PayPal is not making it easy this weekend to update my information.

I remember an explanation why eBay was some kind of added protection for buyers and sellers, but it's not worth the effort to me. I compulsively avoid PayPal and use other sellers, except I thought the forum was PayPal only. My brother-in-law complicates his transactions even more. He pays money through a credit card to a third party company that creates a phantom credit card account that pays money to sellers until you use up all the money in the account, and have to send them more money via your credit card. But after all that fiddling around, you're credit card number is still out there in cyberspace for the hackers to find. There's just an added third party that your money has to travel through.

Using PayPal has become as second nature to me as getting my wallet out at the supermarket. Everybody takes it these days, and I don't have to enter all that lengthy personal info. Never costs me anything as a buyer, and I get a little added purchase-protection, when I need it.

And now back to the subject.

If I can't afford to donate, can I just pray for God to bless you in unexpected ways? :angel:

Been on here long enough to figure out there are people not as able as I am to contribute, which is why I donate what I do. But I will never fault Wolf for any glitches that occur because he had the balls to step in and take charge when it was needed to keep the site up and running. It matters to me because of what it represents. Others don't have that high an opinion, whatever. but because it matters to me I donate, and will do so as long as I am involved.

Our domain and site is set to expire on Jan 17, 2017 and to get another year it will cost $150. We are looking for any donation to keep this community alive. Any amount will be great. Thanks for allowing me to run the best community on the internet.

Yeah...when wolf stops fucking with the software and quits trying to force some 'new look' bullshit down our throats every 6 months or so I'll think about chipping in again, but it seems every time I do I log into some unusable foolishness I have no interest in relearning.

Yeah...when wolf stops fucking with the software and quits trying to force some 'new look' bullshit down our throats every 6 months or so I'll think about chipping in again, but it seems every time I do I log into some unusable foolishness I have no interest in relearning.

I haven't touched the look of this site in quite some time outside of enabling a snow option that can be disabled.

For what it's worth, I'm not going to be making any future changes to the sites function or design. So I've stopped doing exactly what you're complaining about.

Whether you donate is up to you, but I'm not sure you're being very fair to me personally.

I tried paying last year, and the year before that. But last year I didn't have a creditcard (I still don't have paypal), and this time it seems to ask me to register with paypal even though I'm trying to pay with creditcard. Maybe next year I'll have paypall. I dunno... I'd have to look into it first...

If you feel okay with it, pm me a bank-account of yours I can wire it to you? It's not going to be a helluva lot. But I'll contribute my part. And I'm sure you'll use it for the site.

It's probably just me, but maybe there are others willing to contribute who have the same problem?

I tried paying last year, and the year before that. But last year I didn't have a creditcard (I still don't have paypal), and this time it seems to ask me to register with paypal even though I'm trying to pay with creditcard. Maybe next year I'll have paypall. I dunno... I'd have to look into it first...

If you feel okay with it, pm me a bank-account of yours I can wire it to you? It's not going to be a helluva lot. But I'll contribute my part. And I'm sure you'll use it for the site.

It's probably just me, but maybe there are others willing to contribute who have the same problem?

All I know is that it's asking me to create a paypal account when I'm trying to pay through creditcard.Maybe I'm just technologically handicapped, but I'm just not getting through.

Click on "make a donation". You think you are going to Pay Pal, and you are, but at the bottom of the donation box, there is an option to pay by credit card. Pay Pal will take a few cents out of that. I know. It's weird.

Click on "make a donation". You think you are going to Pay Pal, and you are, but at the bottom of the donation box, there is an option to pay by credit card. Pay Pal will take a few cents out of that. I know. It's weird.

I did all that. I filled in the credit-card stuff. It still wants me to make an account before I can make the transaction. I have to fill in I'm from Belgium, and that's when it appears. You can check that for yourself, I believe.

I did all that. I filled in the credit-card stuff. It still wants me to make an account before I can make the transaction. I have to fill in I'm from Belgium, and that's when it appears. You can check that for yourself, I believe.

Now that you mention it, I had an account years ago, so it may have recognized me. Sorry about that.

I did all that. I filled in the credit-card stuff. It still wants me to make an account before I can make the transaction. I have to fill in I'm from Belgium, and that's when it appears. You can check that for yourself, I believe.

I went through the process. On the page where you put in the credit card information at the very bottom it asks you if you want to create a paypal password. Last option says "No, I don't want an account now".

I went through the process. On the page where you put in the credit card information at the very bottom it asks you if you want to create a paypal password. Last option says "No, I don't want an account now".

None of it worked. I just wound up makinga PayPal account and getting on with it.

If my bank-accounts wind up getting depleted by unknown forces in the next few months, I'm coming for you lot. Be warned.

(Let me know if it didn't work.)

Pay Pal is honest, and is a credible company. Its problem is the same as any other business than handles your credit card numbers. They can get hacked. In fact, Pay Pal was hacked a couple years ago. They sent out warnings to change your password, but I don't think anyone had their bank account messed with. But these things also happen to Yahoo, Google, Target, and Barnes and Noble, and Hillary Clinton's Server.

The thing that I don't understand about Pay Pal is why they are necessary in the first place? It seems to be a company that doesn't do anything but handle your account numbers while someone else who you want to do business with also handles your account numbers. It would be like handing over 20 dollars to the cashier at Walmart, who has an assistant who steps in and says, "Here, let me handle this money for you," and then grabs it out of your hands and then immediately passes the money on to the Cashier. WTF is their part in the process? Well, they handle the money. That's all. Why do they need to handle the money? I don't know.

Sorry wolf. I had to blame someone and you were it.. Don't take it personally even though you should. I'm ok with the snow as long as it's not actually cold. If someone else messed things up previously I apologize.. I hate change. Everything should always stay exactly as it is this very moment except my sore toe. That can change for the better.

He said we've only received $70. I believe the cost was somewhere close to $150 for the year. I don't think there's a whole lot of cheaper hosting out there and I'd hate to have to move this site anywhere else

It is that time of year again when the 2018 bill to keep the site up is coming. The price for the site is $190 a year. The price increased because we have to have SSL installed to be part of google search. Any donation will be helpful.

It is that time of year again when the 2018 bill to keep the site up is coming. Any donation will be helpful.

Always happy to help, but note that the donation app is missing from the first page. Also, you might want to start a fresh thread so people don't disregard the notice thinking someone just bumped a defunct thread. We've got fewer active members than last year, but I hope enough people will help out to keep the site from going down.

Always happy to help, but note that the donation app is missing from the first page. Also, you might want to start a fresh thread so people don't disregard the notice thinking someone just bumped a defunct thread. We've got fewer active members than last year, but I hope enough people will help out to keep the site from going down.

Strange. Donations are enabled and it’s showing on my page. I checked permissions and it’s available to all groups.

Always happy to help, but note that the donation app is missing from the first page. Also, you might want to start a fresh thread so people don't disregard the notice thinking someone just bumped a defunct thread. We've got fewer active members than last year, but I hope enough people will help out to keep the site from going down.

Thank you for your help. No worries, if donation doesn't cover the site, I will be covering the rest. Any help though would be great.