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ONE protest in Portland involved some violence. That does not negate the evidence of widespread hate attacks BY Trump supporters. I have presente4d the evidence. Perhaps you should read before you post?

You know, we have a forum for Conspiracy Theories.

See the videos out of San Jose? Clinton supporters are out of control.

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I'm sure this will be the theme at the various parades and celebrations the KKK will be holding.

This is the kind of emotionally driven irrationally thought out expression of which is of no particular usefulness, apart from feeding separatism...which is not useful anyhow...

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Again, what makes you think these are Clinton supporters? Especially the violent offenders?

I watched the videos.

The denial around here is pathetic.

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The number of overtly hostile racists can be debated forever. What is really disturbing is the number of passive racists who are blissfully unaware of how their actions empower the overt ones or collectively work to silence the voices of the minorities.

Your charge of "fake" is not supported by anything but you wanting to dismiss the evidence. I know of a single case (in Louisiana) that there is evidence of possible fakery, but it is Louisiana we're talking about.

I would just love to know what you mean by this (bold).

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But please don't let this convince you that everyone who voted Trump did so because they are bigoted, racist, white -trash good-for-nothings...It is an irrational and unsupported idea - one which is largely influencing the present 'Trump is not my President' protest movements...

This. The idea that Trump's election is going to return the US to some kind of pre-1960's segregated Democratic South is just as asinine as people on the right believing that Obama being elected in 2008 would inevitably lead to the US being "fundamentally transformed" into a Venezuela type Socialist dictatorship.

This. The idea that Trump's election is going to return the US to some kind of pre-1960's segregated Democratic South is just as asinine as people on the right believing that Obama being elected in 2008 would inevitably lead to the US being "fundamentally transformed" into a Venezuela type Socialist dictatorship.

Reproductive rights and LGBT equality will be the early targets.

Per Supreme Court case precedents, a "sincerely held religious belief" in something makes it equivalent to actual facts. A pill that is not an abortofacient was included among the denied forms of coverage because the objectors "believed" it was. Gay couples were denied marriage licenses because objectors "believe" it poses a threat to social order or violates the sanctity of whatever.

So, once the "religious freedom" bills are in place across a wide swath of states (or a federal one is passed), what's to stop someone from having a "sincerely held religious belief" about different ethnic groups?

This. The idea that Trump's election is going to return the US to some kind of pre-1960's segregated Democratic South is just as asinine as people on the right believing that Obama being elected in 2008 would inevitably lead to the US being "fundamentally transformed" into a Venezuela type Socialist dictatorship.

The question is, does this election break ground which could begin a move, over time, into some very dangerous, reactionary territory. I think it's a definite possibility.

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Without any humor to it, I really wish people would send out images from the mom video and pics of that 'baseball bat' tweet along with the "when they go low we go high" line that got used so much. As a liberal I'm probably not going to be able to change a Stormfronter's mind about stuff. But maybe I would be able to talk some people ostensibly on my side of things into realizing that we have our own issues with intolerance to work on as well.

Abuse has to be condemned no matter where it comes from. But while Trump is not a lighthouse for progress he is definitely, among others, the beneficiary of a fully justified mass support directed against a political correctness taken to the extreme. I don't think he supports using this kind of violence, I don't buy the never ending claim that Trump is 'racist' just because he rejects some 'progressive values' taken to the extreme, which actually do more harm than good. Political correctness to be but with a lot of measure, sadly not all ideologies of minorities lead to a better world. Definitely it should not mean the extremist control of the majority via minorities as it is today (with the severe erosion of free speech). People focus on the extremism of Trump but a simple look around shows that those who don't care about democracy are exactly these 'progressives' (western regressives in fact), resorting all the time to violence when their unreasonable demands are not met. The victory of Trump has happily also a good side (no I don't think he'll follow in the footsteps of Hitler), the political system badly needed a serious shake in some aspects. A liberalism without borders has inside the germs of its own demise and we have to be very cautious with such approaches as well.

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Unless and until you prove all the documented incidents are fake they stand as proof of my statement.

If's almost like you are arguing for Space Aliens Flying Saucers

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I'm amazed how many people constantly characterise Trump voters as homophobic racists etc.

Don't you think most of them are just working class people who just want the coalmine or steel mill to open again so they can have a life and dignity? (however misguided that hope is)

And they are willing to accept racist homophobia to get that. It is a package deal, so they sign up for the coal mine and get free racism. It is all about how politicians are bundled. Clearly the racism and homophobia is just not a deal breaker. It is there but not something they care about so they can not be held responsible for the consequences of their vote to make america white again.

And they are willing to accept racist homophobia to get that. It is a package deal, so they sign up for the coal mine and get free racism. It is all about how politicians are bundled. Clearly the racism and homophobia is just not a deal breaker. It is there but not something they care about so they can not be held responsible for the consequences of their vote to make america white again.

By that logic liberals chose a package in which they sacrificed the stability of the middle east, accepted a million dead Muslims, a potential hot war with Russia and handed control of the White House to Wall Street and Saudi Arabia, so that Caitlyn Jenner can use the ladies' room.*

By that logic liberals chose a package in which they sacrificed the stability of the middle east, accepted a million dead Muslims, a potential hot war with Russia and handed control of the White House to Wall Street and Saudi Arabia, so that Caitlyn Jenner can use the ladies' room.*

*and yes, that too is hyperbole.

And those were not the basic policies of Clinton but rather alarmist fears. Locking up all the Muslims is a policy of trump.

Now sure his supports bet that they could tell the difference from his real policies from the stuff he was saying just to win votes. Because racism isn't a deal breaker for them. It is like when you hang out with all your racist homophobic friends and just go along with them, it only makes you look like a racist to everyone else. It doesn't make you a racist just someone who is racist tolerant.

And those were not the basic policies of Clinton but rather alarmist fears. Locking up all the Muslims is a policy of trump.

Now sure his supports bet that they could tell the difference from his real policies from the stuff he was saying just to win votes. Because racism isn't a deal breaker for them. It is like when you hang out with all your racist homophobic friends and just go along with them, it only makes you look like a racist to everyone else. It doesn't make you a racist just someone who is racist tolerant.

No, I'm pretty sure the 2003 Iraq invasion, subsequent civil war, support for "moderate rebels" and the removal of Qadaffy all actually happened. The constant hammering of Russia via opposing Assad, sanctions and other methods was actually already causing friction. And the Clinton foundation received money from Saudi Arabia.

I'm also pretty sure that Trump has never proposed locking up all Muslims as policy.

I think you're missing the point that neither of those things were policies of the president when he got elected. Trump's policies you accept when you vote for him.

Which policies? Those he mentioned at point #1 or at point #2 or the ones he actually will do? There is giant difference between election rhetoric and actual doing. And we know at least two items are already gone from promise: Removal of Muslims and full abolishing of Obamacare. And it doesn't even account for what rest of GOP will do to his proposals in Congress and Senate. (Hint: They really "love" Trump and his ideas...)

But please don't let this convince you that everyone who voted Trump did so because they are bigoted, racist, white -trash good-for-nothings...It is an irrational and unsupported idea - one which is largely influencing the present 'Trump is not my President' protest movements...

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And they are willing to accept racist homophobia to get that. It is a package deal, so they sign up for the coal mine and get free racism. It is all about how politicians are bundled. Clearly the racism and homophobia is just not a deal breaker. It is there but not something they care about so they can not be held responsible for the consequences of their vote to make america white again.

Is basic psychology, top them is the choice between their family having the bad end of the stick or some other family they don't know.

No, I'm pretty sure the 2003 Iraq invasion, subsequent civil war, support for "moderate rebels" and the removal of Qadaffy all actually happened. The constant hammering of Russia via opposing Assad, sanctions and other methods was actually already causing friction. And the Clinton foundation received money from Saudi Arabia.

I'm also pretty sure that Trump has never proposed locking up all Muslims as policy.

As opposed to Trump's support of the invasion only this time with us keeping a permanent presence in the middle east to loot their oil?

He is a political Rorschach test, he says so many contradictory things that you can pick and choose anything to fit your desires.

At least he has the plan to get rid of ISIS in 60 days. Finally someone who is not incompetent like all the government workers in the military to handle the problem.

Which policies? Those he mentioned at point #1 or at point #2 or the ones he actually will do? There is giant difference between election rhetoric and actual doing. And we know at least two items are already gone from promise: Removal of Muslims and full abolishing of Obamacare. And it doesn't even account for what rest of GOP will do to his proposals in Congress and Senate. (Hint: They really "love" Trump and his ideas...)

The muslim ban went back onto his website, it was only an accident it was taken down.

Is basic psychology, top them is the choice between their family having the bad end of the stick or some other family they don't know.

It's easy to be liberal when it doesn't involve your kids starving.

And easy to fall into blaming the jews for your problems instead of looking what actually caused them. But you can't hold them accountable for this, they are to damn stupid to look at what the problems really are.

This seems like a very patronizing argument, that they are too damb stupid and easily lead. Give them some credit and think that they actually liked what they heard.