I've noticed Ron Paul not being in the lead on polls more and more often. This has me scared.

Chester Copperpot

09-12-2007, 11:49 PM

http://election.msn.com/?GT1=10357

I've noticed Ron Paul not being in the lead on polls more and more often. This has me scared.

Its because we've been too busy being out in the real world!

Trassin

09-12-2007, 11:54 PM

Its because we've been too busy being out in the real world!
I spend more than my fair share campaigning for Dr. Paul in the "real world". I doubt that is the reason for him slipping in the polls. I think it might have more to do with him no longer being the "In" thing online. It has been at least 5 minutes after all.

And I'm not saying that his support is slipping, only that it is getting to the point where it is less of a fad and more of a real campaign, which is a good thing as far as I'm concerned.

Robert Johnson

09-13-2007, 12:08 AM

http://election.msn.com/?GT1=10357

I've noticed Ron Paul not being in the lead on polls more and more often. This has me scared.

Why is everyone sending that around with that odd query portion on the URL? The poll is simply on the top page... at http://election.msn.com/

Where, you know, normal people find it :p

Note, http://dailypaul.com/node/2078#comment-9901

Thompson ran away with this initially, I don't know by how much his supporters had hammered it at the beginning.
But three hours ago it was Fred Thompson 32% to Ron Paul 14%
(15917 responses)
Now it is just Fred Thompson 30% to Ron Paul 18%
(20508 responses)
Of the responses in between those times, Ron Paul is "only" getting just under 32%

jon_perez

09-13-2007, 01:00 AM

Why is Ron not winning this poll?Uh, because the poll is asking "which candidate has the 'best conservative credentials'?

It is not entirely clear to me that Ron Paul does. Ron Paul's platform certainly has some conservative flavor but it is mostly Libertarian and Libertarian does not equal Conservative. Not having the 'best' conservative credentials is NOT a bad thing.

jblosser

09-13-2007, 01:39 AM

Ron is not running on a libertarian platform. He talks a lot about liberty, but when it comes down to brass tacks he is running on a Constitutional platform. Despite his own beliefs on liberty he routinely says as President he would go to the Constitution, not the LP platform. This is why he wants to leave so much to the states.

This is a purely conservative position.

Robert Johnson

09-13-2007, 03:47 PM

The New American regularly scores Ron Paul at 100% on what they used to call their Conservative Index, but what they now call the Freedom Index (http://www.jbs.org/files/fi-110-1.pdf)...

About This Index

‘‘The Freedom Index: A Congressional Scorecard Based on the U.S. Constitution” rates congressmen based on their adherence to constitutional principles of limited government, fiscal responsibility, national sovereignty, and a traditional foreign policy of avoiding foreign entanglements. We have changed the name of this index from “Conservative Index” to “Freedom Index” because the meaning of “conservative” has changed so dramatically since we began publishing “The Conservative Index” 35 years ago. Whereas preserving our Constitution, the freedoms it guarantees, and the moral bedrock on which it is based is what “conservatism” once meant, nowadays “conservative” is often used to refer to the exact opposites of these time-honored American values.

When talking about Fred Thompson (http://www.conservativesbetrayed.com/gw3/articles-latestnews/articles.php?CMSArticleID=2438&CMSCategoryID=19) and the conservative credentials of Fred Thompson (http://www.conservativesbetrayed.com/gw3/articles-latestnews/articles.php?CMSArticleID=2438&CMSCategoryID=19), I find it is helpful to be able to refer to this exposť of Fred Thompson (http://www.conservativesbetrayed.com/gw3/articles-latestnews/articles.php?CMSArticleID=2438&CMSCategoryID=19), which you can bring up whenever other people are already talking about Fred Thompson (http://www.conservativesbetrayed.com/gw3/articles-latestnews/articles.php?CMSArticleID=2438&CMSCategoryID=19), but you feel they don't really know much about the real Fred Thompson (http://www.conservativesbetrayed.com/gw3/articles-latestnews/articles.php?CMSArticleID=2438&CMSCategoryID=19).

Perry

09-13-2007, 06:37 PM

Lol.

jon_perez

09-13-2007, 10:41 PM

Ron is not running on a libertarian platform. He talks a lot about liberty, but when it comes down to brass tacks he is running on a Constitutional platform. Despite his own beliefs on liberty he routinely says as President he would go to the Constitution, not the LP platform. This is why he wants to leave so much to the states.