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Please tell me that I wasn't the only one whole though I had gone completely mad when watching this episode...I mean seriously...WTFFFFF?

ep 20

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I don't even know what to think of this anymore...is it good? is it bad? The previous time skip was a shocker but this completely blows it out of the water in comparison. The whole mood has completely reshaped right from the new OP (which already gave me minor seizures on what just happened) and if it wasn't for the second half of the episode I would have probably gone mad.

Not just the characters, but the entire theme of the series had just gone OOC which I am still unsure of whether it was a good or bad change. I am completely confused on to how I should like this new turn of events or whether to like it at all, it just came about a bit too sudden for me.

Moving away was fine but such a drastic change? It feels like I've landed in the twilight zone here.

Not to mention Cal...holy hell it isn't possible for her to grow into such a mature looking lady in the space of two years. Never mind the height, she was supposed to be DFC...oh my gosh...I'm speechless.

Again I'm unsure whether I like this change or not. She sure does look bombastically sexy but a part of me misses the old cal very much ;_;

Can anyone post a comparison image from the game or so?

Overall it was a mind raping episode for me which I can't put my finger on...the shock was simply too great and now it has to sink in after I go through my denial phase...

About atmosphere: the lighter atmosphere is too be expected since they moved to a high school. However, that at the same trime makes it darker: in all that happiness and noce looking world, in paralel there is a darker and cruel world of assasins and mafia. As the OP shows, all those people (including Reiji's and Ellen's school firends) have no idea that those three nice looking people (Reiji, Ellen, Cal) are in fact cold-blooded assasins. And nobody especialy knows that there is a war brewing between two top assasins from one side, mafia's from the other side and another elements from the third (after all, Inferno and Cal didn't come to Japan for a vacation). And the watcher is left wandering if some of those innocent people will end up being pulled from their kind world into this cruel and dark world. If someone innocent does get involved, will that person be able to return back... or will that person remain scarred for the rest of its life?
Looking at it this way, the light atmosphere becomes a good thing, IMO.

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Not to mention Cal...holy hell it isn't possible for her to grow into such a mature looking lady in the space of two years.

Actuall, it is possible. A lot of people can grow up fast.
Also, this is nothing compared to Ellen who in part 1 was a 14-years old girl. If a 14-years old girl can look like that, then Cal in her 16's can look like this.

Deathkillz, I believe that the game author would be very happy about your reaction, since I'm pretty sure that it's exactly what he tried to achieve.

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Look at it that way: One of the overarching themes of Phantom is that the Underworld is a mean place, it absolutely sucks in its violence and the constant loss of loved ones. Now, chapter 1 was how Reiji got tossed into this world, along with a feeble and futile attempt to break free. Chapter 2 was "living in the Underworld", ending with the loss of Cal. And now, chapter 3 will thematize the struggle to break away from the Unterworld for real, and this will include exactly this extreme light/dark contrast which you noticed.

Oh, and you're not the only one mourning Cal, I can say this much. Even though - as an omniscient viewer - I'm very much excited by the way they've been presenting her.

Deathkillz, I believe that the game author would be very happy about your reaction, since I'm pretty sure that it's exactly what he tried to achieve.

Well, someone go tell the author that he (or she) is completely evil

Hmm...good explanations from you and Nayrael, I am beginning to understand more of this drastic, mind blowing change now. The light "school life" mood was needed to set the contrast between the dark underworld but since it came about so suddenly, it was quite a solid blow to the ground

And my Cal!!! ;_;

It's still hard to believe but she has become a beauty. It must have been what Reiji did to her before D:

Hmm...good explanations from you and Nayrael, I am beginning to understand more of this drastic, mind blowing change now. The light "school life" mood was needed to set the contrast between the dark underworld but since it came about so suddenly, it was quite a solid blow to the ground

And my Cal!!! ;_;

It's still hard to believe but she has become a beauty. It must have been what Reiji did to her before D:

When does episode 20, or rather phantom episodes come out? Just been wondering because i'm sitll waiting for those darn *that which shall not be talked about* so that i can watch this darn episode...i want to watch os baddd and i've been holding myself back from spoiling myself!

When does episode 20, or rather phantom episodes come out? Just been wondering because i'm sitll waiting for those darn *that which shall not be talked about* so that i can watch this darn episode...i want to watch os baddd and i've been holding myself back from spoiling myself!

Raws for Phantom come out every Thursday, give or take a few hours depending where you live. The day subs are available vary, usually Inferno gets them out by Sunday but there have been a few cases where they run later than that (this being one of those weeks).

The OP and ED aren't as good as the first set, overall, but I'd be lying if I said they aren't appropriate for this arc in spite of their weirdness. Perhaps the actual lyrics will help enhance the effect.

Raws for Phantom come out every Thursday, give or take a few hours depending where you live. The day subs are available vary, usually Inferno gets them out by Sunday but there have been a few cases where they run later than that (this being one of those weeks).

Thanks for the info! I was expecting a 16th release (sunday like you said)...but i really want to see this episode :\...i want to know what happens to Cal >.<!!! my poor girl! SM YOU sick sick bastard

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Don't forget that we got a new OP and ED. And new OP and ED usually mean much more time for waiting.

true good point

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Originally Posted by Mentar

Also, keep in mind that the new OP is from Ali Project (*ugh*) - and supposed to come out on wednesday. Ask other fansubbers what it means to do Ali Project without script.

Hahahhaaha yes that is very true. I wonder why they decided to go for Ali Pro again... :\

Hmm...good explanations from you and Nayrael, I am beginning to understand more of this drastic, mind blowing change now. The light "school life" mood was needed to set the contrast between the dark underworld but since it came about so suddenly, it was quite a solid blow to the ground

And my Cal!!! ;_;

It's still hard to believe but she has become a beauty. It must have been what Reiji did to her before D:

The look can be accomplished with breast implants nowadays you know.

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Yes we wouldn't want Phantom selling 1000 copies per volume instead of 1020. Anyway if they do follow a game ending I hope they go for the one with most impact so this show is actually remembered by the people who watched it.

You never know. The 20 DVDs could be the difference between someone eating cup noodle and someone not eating. 1020 wins in my book.

I haven't seen the episode safe the new OP and ED. The atomsphere sure has changed and Reiji's old hairstyle, well, I think it suits him more.
And Cal..... I don't like her now with all this big boobs. Elen>>>>Cal
Seifuku Elen FTW!!!!

News of it being a game just recently arrived in my brain. I'm hoping it wasn't one those "ero-games". - makes me sick thinking about the story with that in mind.

I'm pretty sure it is...apparently Reiji had smehxy smexy with several people, including cal in the bathroom scene >.<!!! (WHEN SHE WAS ONLY 14...though he is 16, but he doesn't look 16, and she doesn't look 14, she looks like she's 11)

btw - is that sig of yours the twins from black lagoon S2 or something?

I'm pretty sure it is...apparently Reiji had smehxy smexy with several people, including cal in the bathroom scene >.<!!! (WHEN SHE WAS ONLY 14...though he is 16, but he doesn't look 16, and she doesn't look 14, she looks like she's 11)

btw - is that sig of yours the twins from black lagoon S2 or something?

I'm glad the anime didn't include those scenes...well they usually don't. and yes its Hansel and Gretel from BL S2. They're confusing characters really. I don't know if both of them are male or both of them are female or both of them have the opposite sexes. They experimented with bodies and does something weird with each other. But even with those confusions, my inclination towards tough little girls and boys are biased-proof. Having said that, Cal has been my main focus. Though I'd definitely like to see her quickdraw in action.