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=O I never understood what was wrong with Samurott's design to people. Emboar with all the flames is kind of hard to make out in the game...but Samurott always struck me to be detailed but you still had a good idea of what it is (a sea lion). I love sea lions and otters so I'm quite happy with this line. XDDD

lol the badge not fitting into the badge case hole completely, animation error?

I noticed it during the Preview, but whoever animated this has a serious problem with proportions. They can draw Ash, Iris, and Cilian close enough but everything else had a tendancy to be either way too big (Riolu and Meloetta) or two small (Mantine didn't look big enough). Marlon's head seemed to gradually shrink as the episode went on.

=O I never understood what was wrong with Samurott's design to people. Emboar with all the flames is kind of hard to make out in the game...but Samurott always struck me to be detailed but you still had a good idea of what it is (a sea lion). I love sea lions and otters so I'm quite happy with this line. XDDD

I think it's cool in a few ways, but it's design makes it completely the opposite of what its intended to be. Samurai are suppose to be nimble, graceful, and swift... everything that Samurott's design lacks. That's why Dewott does that job better. Not to mention, Samurott is a b**ch to draw anyway :P

Though Samurott wasn't that bad. But it would have been better if the writers had given it a much better moveset. It is almost a clone of Ash's Oshawott in terms of moveset with Hydro Cannon replacing Hydro Pump and it not using a 4th move.

It would have been much better if Marlon's Mantine had Water Absorb as its ability like his Jellicent had Cursed Body. That would have been proven to be a much better challenge for Kotetsu's 8th gym battle.

I think the writers reversed the power between Roxie and Marlon. I mean in the games Roxie is the 2nd gym leader and Marlon is the 8th gym leader, which creates a large gap in there power (atleast before taking part in the WT).

But in the anime, it is Roxie who is extremely powerful and Marlon is a lot weaker (even-though he also played the role of the 8th gym leader). I mean would Ash really have won his match against Roxie in the anime if it had been a 3 Vs 3 or 6 Vs 6 battle, i don't think so.

I feel that Barry in DP and Kotetsu in BW turned out to be a bit lucky in getting one of there badges. Barry got one of his badges without battle and Kotetsu won against an opponent which he easily defeated.

I think it's cool in a few ways, but it's design makes it completely the opposite of what its intended to be. Samurai are suppose to be nimble, graceful, and swift... everything that Samurott's design lacks.

I think you explained it correctly. The reasons you posted are the ones that don't allow me to like Samurott. I just didn't like seeing it battle and make me happy that Ash has Oshawott.

The episode was fine. I liked the battle and Kotetsu. Sadly, Marlon felt weak and I just didn't like him. His design, however, is great.

I didn't like the way this episode was executed. The first half was just random shenanigans, and we didn't even get the Gym battle until the end. I'm all for characters bonding, but it seemed unnecessary here. Anyway, Kotetsu got on my nerves; I thought he would be interesting, but he reminds me of a thousand other male characters. I'm not here for reductivity. I really like Marlon though. He looked fierce. But the battle was bland. I think we all knew that Kotetsu would win, so there wasn't any suspense. I'm sure people are rating this episode a 10 out of 10 just for Samurott though. That just goes to show how times have changed.

I think it's cool in a few ways, but it's design makes it completely the opposite of what its intended to be. Samurai are suppose to be nimble, graceful, and swift... everything that Samurott's design lacks. That's why Dewott does that job better. Not to mention, Samurott is a b**ch to draw anyway :P

Haha I never thought of it being agile like a Samurai... ._.; though as a sea lion it is pretty darn precise. Sea Lions are mobile on land (better than a seal) but still aren't very mobile. However, they trade their mobility for strength. XD

Yes, Marlon was voiced by Yuji Ueda, best know in Pokémon as Brock's voice actor.

Originally Posted by phanpycross

I feel like this fandom idolizes Ash way too much. It was bad before, but with XY and S&M it feels like it has reached a whole new level. It's like every person that doesnt outright dislike him is obviously obsessed with with him, and every person who does him wrong is evil incarnate.

Living through other people is unhealthy; living through fictional 10-year olds that are stuck in a timeloop is super unhealthy.

The battle was completely rushed just to show how overpowered Kotetsu was just to drill in the idea that "Hey this trainer is going to likely beat Ash in the Unova League even though he doesn't deserve it."

I still prefer the realistic approach of having some random trainer show up being overpowered that beats Ash and the league because there's no guarantee that you'll know the person who will beat you (or who you will face) in a tournament.

If only Kotetsu was a girl like BW female protagonist or B2W2 female protagonist, I would've had a much different perspective of this episode.

Originally Posted by Hero of Ideals

There are 1000+ animes out there, watch them.

Don't lie. There is only one current Pokemon anime series involving Ash. There's not a 1000 out there like you suggest.

Originally Posted by Locormus

That being said, this is a forum where people reply to other people's post. If you don't want people to reply, then don't post what you don't want people to reply to. You know it's as simple as that.

No, that argument doesn't work.

I'm pretty sure when a response to my post is JUST "Stop watching the show"

At least Janovy's response to my "anger" post asking why I didn't find Samurott badass, at least that was more on topic that a single sentence in a post with "Stop watching the show."

The whole "Stop watching the show" response and anything similar should be against the rules if it isn't already. That is such a lazy, and rash response that only proves that people just want to increase their post count, since I'll give people the benefit of the doubt that they aren't insulting me. Because I'm pretty sure a single sentence of a post "Stop watching the show" will never be relevant in the Pokemon anime forums at all.

The argument also doesn't work is because there are some posts that get completely and utterly ignored.

Think people, if your sole response to my posts are:

Stop being childish

Stop watching the show

Blah blah offtopic spam

Then don't respond to my posts.

Don't you think that people are sick and tired of my negative criticism? Do they really need to see that people responding with childish responses of "Stop watching the show" to my posts?

So again, I ask does anyone seriously need to respond to my posts? If your not going to respond with anything well thought out, and only are responding with knee-jerk responses. Why the hell are you compelled to respond to my posts.

@Dman, are you even trying, I meant they're are other anime besides Pokemon. Go watch those. Oh Arceus.

Pokemon is my favorite franchise in the entire world. For all intents and purposes I eat, sleep and breath Pokemon. There is no anime where I would be interested in. Because it doesn't deal with Pokemon.

Why can't you people understand that? Any other anime series is going to have a completely different story, a completely different structure, completely different characters. Completely different everything.

I want Pokemon and unfortunately the only series out there is THIS ONE.

I like the episode just cuz Marlon is one of my favorite gym leaders :d

Originally Posted by Josef Stylin

Originally Posted by Cevil

RIP Ash's dreams.

Who cares about his dream, the only character that should be feeling crushed right now is the Furfrou guy. Dude put all of his faith in Ash.

He looked like a male prostitute too, so he's probably crying his eyes out while standing around in shady street corners, which is bad for business because customers will be weirded out. Ash ruined his dreams and his job, what a terrible person.

I like the episode just cuz Marlon is one of my favorite gym leaders :d

He's one of my favorite Gym Leaders, too. Unfortunately, I can't help but feel that this episode didn't do him justice. I wanted an entire episode about my future husband Marlon, but he only got a small role. Honestly, people seem to care more about Kotetsu than Marlon, which makes me want to cry. When will my lover fave get some recognition?

Go figure... Ash has to fight long and hard battles, new guy gets to take down his opponent pretty swiftly and not look like a complete dork

Yeah, but he's the lead of the show. He needs to struggle for us to cheer for him.

Originally Posted by dman_dustin

Pokemon is my favorite franchise in the entire world. For all intents and purposes I eat, sleep and breath Pokemon. There is no anime where I would be interested in. Because it doesn't deal with Pokemon.

Why can't you people understand that? Any other anime series is going to have a completely different story, a completely different structure, completely different characters. Completely different everything.

I want Pokemon and unfortunately the only series out there is THIS ONE.

Can you GET it now?

Don't you think it's time to fix it? The show is not eternal, it's going to end some day. If it's all you eat, sleep and breathe then, what are you going to do when it's over? You can't be so attached to things like this, not when there's a world outside, that as hard as it might be, can offer you great things.

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I'd like to add that Meloetta was the cutest thing in the world this episode. I love how much she cares about Ash. Giving him an apple was so sweet. I wish there was a chance for her to be captured.

OMG,they recycled the whole Richie thing with the looking at the stars thing...>.>This guy is Richie 2 and he'll beat Ash in the League.

He isn't Richie 2, Kotetsu was trying to navigate by looking at the stars.

Originally Posted by phanpycross

I feel like this fandom idolizes Ash way too much. It was bad before, but with XY and S&M it feels like it has reached a whole new level. It's like every person that doesnt outright dislike him is obviously obsessed with with him, and every person who does him wrong is evil incarnate.

Living through other people is unhealthy; living through fictional 10-year olds that are stuck in a timeloop is super unhealthy.

I haven't gotten to see the episode yet, but I viewed the photos. It looks good. I like that the gym battle wasn't rushed and there was time for bonding between Ash and Kotetsu. As much as you all wanted a long gym battle, getting to know the rival is important too. The gym battle looks good, but I'll have to see it in motion. The animation looks good and the battle between Mantine and Samurott was the most interesting part of it.