In the Bob Kane Batman comic books, he killed sometimes but because he had no choice, that's pretty human and in Return he killed minor criminals and felt nothing, that is really cold-blooded and they were not worth killing.

I don't think the Catwoman in Batman Returns was true to the comic books.

Comic book Catwoman - black hair, green eyes, origin's a bit murky (just how many times have they retconned her origin anyway?), skilled thief, highly athletic, love/hate dynamic with Batman, seems to enjoy the risk, uses a whip as primary weapon

Batman Returns Catwoman - blonde hair, blue eyes, overworked-underpaid-unappreciated-unloved-understated-lacking-in-confidence secretary who only lets out her cynical views when alone, becomes world class athlete after apparently dying from a really high fall & being resurrected or reborn or whatever after a bunch of stray cats started licking & chewing at her,, just barely holding herself together afterwards, love/hate dynamic with Batman, uses a whip

Well, they remembered that she was white/caucasian, used a whip and had the love/hate thing going on with Batman, so they got those 3 things right. Michelle Pfeiffer was hot as well.

Tell me what was bad about Pfeiffer's Catwoman. And then anything is better than a chubby guy in a tuxedo. Burton's real Penguin-Man was at least memorable, pathetic, pitiful and powerful as a character.

Tell me what was bad about Pfeiffer's Catwoman. And then anything is better than a chubby guy in a tuxedo. Burton's real Penguin-Man was at least memorable, pathetic, pitiful and powerful as a character.

I like the chubby tuxedo Penguin, didn't care for the monster Penguin (I can simply watch a horror movie if I want to see a creature like him). Pfeiffer's Catwoman wasn't bad, but the whole movie... it's too Gothic for me. Batman(89) had a nice mix.

I'm not saying Pfeiffer was wrong for the role, it's just that the script for Catwoman could have been more true to the comic and how the hell do you come back from dead because of stupid cats licking you.

I'm not saying Pfeiffer was wrong for the role, it's just that the script for Catwoman could have been more true to the comic and how the hell do you come back from dead because of stupid cats licking you.

I know if I was making a movie... creating/adapting a character who was 'simply a thief in a catsuit'... wouldn't get me creatively excited one bit.

Burton turned Catwoman into a multi-layered and tragically twisted character and she is the better for it. I actually think it was his greatest contribution to the batman franchise generally.

It was also because he basically made her Batman and Bruce's equal counterpart. If she was just a thief...then what would that duality romance revolve around?
Because his Batman was a little more twisted, so was his Catwoman.
I think it was phenomenal and I hold Returns pretty high on the "coolest Batman things list".