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It looks like I could make a case for my Caldera Cone alcohol stove since it is commercially manufactured and although the fuel is not recommended it does not seem to be prohibited.

I won't bring my Zelph Super Stove since alcohol can stoves are called out as an example of prohibited stoves even though I could see an argument that it is commercially produced using recycled materials...

Thanks for the heads up...

I would argue that the Zelph Super Stove would be acceptable under G2SS since it is not homemade.

On the alcohol stoves, I don't know how many classes I have had on making cat can stoves. They say you can use it if commercially made, but frown on use of alcohol. I know the side jet pepsi stove was made up by a scouter. You all have hit the nail on the head. What about the buddy burners that use a tuna can and cardboard/parafin wax for fuel. Is that banned as well. I still have the one I built as a Webelo from back in the sixties (man I am old)? Opens up a whole can of worms don't it!

Guide to Safe Scouting has a little blurb about
Chemical Fuel and Equipment Policy

(April 12, 2010)

With the 2010 Spring and Summer camping season now underway it is a great time to review the current policy on the Storage, Handling, and Use of Chemical Fuels and Equipment.

Many campers are moving away from traditional outdoor campfires in favor of chemical-fueled equipment for cooking, heating, and lighting. However, chemical fuels and equipment create very different hazards than traditional wood, charcoal, and other solid fuels. Please take a moment and be up to date on our policies.

Then it links to a larger one page PDF where is goes on specifically putting the homemade stoves, (Specifically mentions the can type) on the prohibited list .

A couple of paragraphs later and they list the "Not Reccomended" fuels.

Chemical Fuels not Recommended—Unleaded gasoline;
liquid alcohol fuels, including isopropyl alcohol, denatured
ethyl alcohol, and ethanol; and other flammable
chemicals that are not in accordance with the manufacturer’s
instructions for chemical-fueled equipment.

So I can use a stove with an explosive gas cannister or Sterno , but apparently my factory Trangia with HEET (Yellow Bottle) is against the rules?? Guess they don't know how many campers across Europe use alcohol stoves?

They took away the BSA stamped sheath knives and small hatchets a while back.

Too much CYA now.

DKPerdue

Your factory Trangia is not prohibited. It's not recommended, but that doesn't mean not allowed.

Dang It...I just read I was too fat for scouts, and no more hobo stoves...that is it I am giving up ... reading...

Teaching scouts to build fires and explore the world since 1985, two time scoutmaster, Eagle Scout and current member of Troop Committee for Troop 439 in Rthschild WI. We have 67 boys in the troop and probably a dozen or so hanging.

Roger and Shug put on the Gift of the woods show and I think we have another 12-20 who are really interested now.

too bad about me being too fat for scouts though...too much dutch oven cobbler? I didn't think that was possible.

Kevin

We never fail when we try to do our duty, we always fail when we neglect to do it. -- Robert Baden-Powell

Hey my fellow Forum Folk I have noticed a few fellow Scouter's out there and would like to see how far and wide Hammock Camping has spread in the Scouting Community. Tom Hennesey has done great things to promote Hammock Camping to Scouts. So post a reply if you would like stating where your Scouting and how many Hangers are in Your Troop. I'll go first: Troop 6 Glens Falls NY and our Troop boast 18 hangers out of 24 members.

Got the bug at the Boy Scout National Jamboree in 2010 when I looked at the camping Meritbadge display and it had a WBBB set up.

Found this forum and the rest is history.

Have been Hammocking since then - no tents at all once I did my own DIY gathered end and sil tarp.

My two boys (oldest just finished Eagle Project and waiting on BOR later this month & youngest getting 2nd class next week) both have their own hammocks & tarps and we hiked on the AT at Fontana Dam last summer and used them - LOVED IT!!!

Oldest is a full-timer but youngest still isn't sure about it.

Several in troop are asking and I am working with them on their first rigs.

We also camp on a lot of Select Soccer Tornaments and have one dad and his son who are hammocking in an ENO DN.

I am on the Jamboree Contingent leadership (2nd Asst. Scoutmaster) for 2013 and plan on bringing my hammock and two-pole self-suspended rig for my personal hang...they say all tent & cots will be furnished and we have to carry all of our personal gear in a ruck to the campsite. I will stash this in my bag and use the nested poles as a heavy hiking stick into camp! Should be interesting to see how it works.