Messages - Mwana Nsalu

i've found that a lot of his songs from Tokoos sound better live/acoustic. a lot of what's wrong with that album is the lack luster production but the acoustic sounds much better. he should do a live version lol

LOL you all are really taking this serious. fally's job here is done lol he calls himself greatest for attention and it seems now everyday we will get a post about one of you being upset with him calling himself the greatest.

so many american guitarists KNOW how well congolese play the guitar and have come to study under them. i dont know so much about in the 2000s-10s but i know for sure big time white artists like paul simon and eric clapton have done this in the 70s and 80s.

Could you provide video examples? I've been looking. Yes, I know Paul Simon, Eric Clapton, also Ry Cooder have played rhumba, but this was the slower pace, often Cuban sounding rhumba of the 60's-70's

Think @brazzaboy is referring to modern sebene guitar and it's speed. There are many white guitarists on YT who have demonstrated their knowledge and skill, but the folks who are considered the "best" (Rock) and most famous just don't know about the modern style on Congolese guitarists.

no i don't have any video. i read about this years ago. my father who also studies the music and his good friend pepe felly (yes that pepe felly) has also said the same thing. what they played was slower paced because they could never duplicate what they heard lol a testament to the congolese and our place in the world of music

so many american guitarists KNOW how well congolese play the guitar and have come to study under them. i dont know so much about in the 2000s-10s but i know for sure big time white artists like paul simon and eric clapton have done this in the 70s and 80s.

as for why african music is being kept out of the united states, the united states is the most xenophobic country when it comes to entertainment and music. part of it is the keep the lie alive that no place is greater than the united states. that includes our entertainment. if african music had its own main stream space it wouldn't be the end of artists from the united states it would just mean the mindstate of the people would be more open to the idea of african people 1) not being savages 2) actually being rich and having money and large homes and nice cars etc 3) it would make american people more open minded to africa as a place to go and perhaps even live. these are all thing this country philosophically does not want to see because it would damage these stereotypes.

if you notice in the U.S. every 10 or so years there is a 'latin explosion' and also a few hits from 'the caribbean' (most times a jamaican dancehall or reggae song) and then they disappear from the collective consciousness of the people. they're trying to bring in the 'afrobeat' but the videos that have been coinciding with these afrobeat songs (the french montana song for example) the songs are being done by america artists not african ones. the internet is the only reason why american people are even privy to any of this now adays.

let's not get carried away though that united states musicians don't exist or are horrible and can't keep up musically. the guitar is definitely the specialty of the congolese and they have inspired the world with their techniques.

@Toolz: ok bro. my judgement is from reading the post as it is. no you don't have to explain yourself but this is a public forum where yall are discussing publicly and i felt like chiming in because it is my prerogative. your statement "Are you supposed to know how he got the invite into the premiere?" came off mad defensive. if you disagree that's fine i really don't care i just found the whole way you approached his question to be defensive and strange and i understand why manzambi asked if you had a problem with him. it's cool with MR VIBES chimes in to agree with you but you are shocked that i have my two cents? LOL ok

from an unbiased perspective Toolz your initial reply can be seen as an overly defensive. as if you are offended that anyone would question fally or his actions. give manzambi a break Lol i don't get the whole argument that he needs to 'grow up'. this whole thread got weird for no reason smh

anyways archos said it best. right now fally is 'doing it for the gram' the best out of any congolese artist. the photo opportunities may not necessarily lead to anything directly but just the fact that he has these photo opportunities looks good for him.

nothing wrong with doing and trying different things musically. the truth of the matter is fally's attempt at 'different' just wasn't that great lol some people love it. some people hate it. some others in the middle but at the end of the day FOR ME i dont dislike 'Tokooos' because fally was 'trying something new' he does a lot of 'trying new things' on his rumba albums if we are honest about fally's musical direction has always pushed the envelop (i been wanting to make a thread about this but i'm too lazy lol maybe one day) and mixed influences in a way that is more universal already so doing "world music" so to speak is a natural progression. or so i thought. i dislike it because it was an extremely lazy attempt at trying to jump on the current musical bandwagon. i was actually excited to hear what he would do but it was a very lazy attempt.

I was a big supporter of his back then for him to make it and become successful with the way he was hustling, but now with his attitude and delusions of grandeur... pfff

LOL same. i remember when he first left maison mere so many people doubted him while i was his biggest cheerleader here! then his attitude got bad. i still listen to his music but im not that big a supporter anymore

most of the music from the early 2000s. i wasn't really into congolese music yet at those times and when i finally did dive in i was more into the older music particularly the 60s, 70s and 80s. i wasn't quite used to that style. i am able to find great music in every era now adays. there's some great stuff from that time of course. i'm still not as well versed in that era as i am in others.