THE public health experts - and their amen corner in the media - owe Helen Gurley Brown an apology. The legendary Cosmopolitan editor was vilified in 1993 when she published a piece called "The Myth of Heterosexual AIDS." But she was right.

That actually might be true, though the greatest numbers are amongs homosexuals. Transmission rates from men to women are much greater than the reverse, and there were stories a couple of month's ago about college age black men who have sex with other men, but still consider themselves straight.

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posted on 03/19/2004 6:56:07 AM PST
by sharkhawk
(I want to go to St. Somewhere)

"Farber exposed the conspiracy between profit-hungry drug companies, researchers who wanted more funding, homosexuals who didn't want the disease to be known as "the gay plague," and conservatives who wanted to turn back the sexual revolution."

This is beyond sad. The truth seems as if it is an oddity anymore.

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posted on 03/19/2004 6:56:31 AM PST
by writer33
(The U.S. Constitution defines a Conservative)

It isn't the largest growing group, but it is the FASTEST growing group. Apparently significant numbers of black man are 'on the down low' and serving as an AIDS vector into the hetero black community.

It used to be that essentially no non-IV-drug using black women got AIDS. Now some are getting it from sexual contact. A moderate number of cases on a very small base = Fastest growth.

My very liberal SIL stated that the largest growing group of AIDS patients in the US is black women. Anybody have stats that I can slam her with???

I read something, probably here, stating that many black men who are bisexual or homosexual, tend to hide their preferences from the rest of the community. In other words, they pretend to be straight. If they are HIV positive, they can certainly pass this on to an unsuspecting female partner. As far as black women being the largest growing number of AIDS patients, I haven't heard that statistic.

"Farber exposed... conservatives who wanted to turn back the sexual revolution."

Bullsh!t.Conservatives simply want it acknowledged that AIDS is a primarily a behavioral disease, due to deviant behavior, and the vast majority of those who have contracted it did so knowing the risks.

Of course, the sad stories you read about are of innocent children who've acquired it from their drug-addicted mothers or from contaminated blood from irresponsible (or worse: malicious!) blood donors.

The AIDS "activists" you hear from know d@mn well the funding for AIDS research would have dried up overnight if the majority of people in this country realized that most of those with Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome had "acquired" it by putting their d!cks where they don't belong.

In 1986 I attended a series of lectures on AIDS by the late Dr. Howard Temin, Nobel Laureate and essentially the first to describe the mechanism by which retroviruses of the HIV sort function. There was a discussion at that time of the breakdown of HIV+ persons - roughly 67% gay, 22% IV drug users, maybe 5% bisexual and a residual group of 6% unknown. These numbers were based on initial CDC survey data. Public health researchers were sent to re-interview those who fell into the "unknown" source category. After further investigation it was found that the unknowns broke down into the same proportions as the knowns (i.e. roughly 67% gay, 22% IV drug users, etc.) and that after several iterations of interviews - the completely unknowns resolved themselves down to a tiny fraction. To my knowledge the most significant change in the source of HIV was the decline in the number of hemophiliacs in the + population as they literally died off and as better blood and blood products screening were instituted. Other than that there seems to have been a remarkably steady sourcing for this deadly virus. Despite all the money wasted on PSA's which reach very low probability audiences.

Your liberal friend probably has unimpeachable statistics and is quoting percentage increase. As an example, suppose in a city there are 500 gay men with AIDS and 1 black woman with AIDS this year, and next year there are 600 gay men with AIDS and 4 black women with AIDS. There was a 20% increase among gay men, but a 300% increase among black women.

(raising hand) IknowIknowIknow. Because Bush is a wealth-distributing globalist, and he'll never experience any negative economic impact personally, no matter how outrageously he spends the taxpayer dime.

Women are far more likely to catch AIDS from an infected partner than a man. Sex normally causes microscopic tears in the lining of the vagina.

I would bet the infection rate in african american females is probably quite high. Given the high drug use in the inner cities, and higher risk (unprotected) sex... I would not be suprised at all if black women are contracting aids at an alarming rate.

Farber exposed the conspiracy between profit-hungry drug companies, researchers who wanted more funding, homosexuals who didn't want the disease to be known as "the gay plague," and conservatives who wanted to turn back the sexual revolution.

He got 2 out of 4 anyway.

Drug companies lose money on AIDS drugs becuase their forced to give away drugs to be good corporate citizens. Conservatives were just recognizing the truth of what was happening. AIDS is still predominantly a plague on homosexuals, especially the bug-chasers.

Oh, I agree with you, just wanted to make the point that a lot of black women might not realize who their boyfriend is playing around with on the side. That would cause a upsurge in straight black female AIDS statistics.

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posted on 03/19/2004 8:00:33 AM PST
by sharkhawk
(I want to go to St. Somewhere)

Duesberg lost his funding, his laboratory, and his students when he announced in 1987 that HIV doesn't cause AIDS. "He lost everything," said one insider. Duesberg switched to cancer research, and is now touted to win a Nobel Prize.

Of course, he was subsequently and overwhelmingly proved wrong about HIV not being the primary cause of AIDS. In this matter, he was on the phlogiston side of the debate.

Let's remember, too, that not only is GWBush personally responsible for the proliferation of AIDS in the black community, but GHWBush was a key part of the Reagan administration that was personally responsible for infecting the black community with AIDS in the first place!

My very liberal SIL stated that the largest growing group of AIDS patients in the US is black women. Anybody have stats that I can slam her with??? In any epidemic, the most at risk have the largest initial rise, and the soonest plateau and decline. Black women are less at risk, so therefore they are going to have their rise later, while the most at risk are leveled off or in decline. When Chinese cab-drivers have their first case (the number goes from zero to one) THEY will be the fastest growing group.

And the reason that Black women are the fastest growing group can easily be divined by looking at where the cases primarily occur: Miami, Houston, and NYC. Which happen to be the centers of IV drug abuse among blacks. These are women with tracks on their arms, or who have LOTS of unprotected sex with men who do, or both.

The greatest myth is that an epidemic simply takes turns, going through all populations equally ("crossing over into the heterosexual community" is the phrase), when in fact the propagation rate depends on the BEHAVIORS of those in each community. If the average infected person infects more than one other before dying, then you have a growing rate of spread. If less, then the epidemic dies out. That is why it spread like wildfire among promiscuous gays and IV sharers, and why it never went anywhere even when a few heterosexual non-drug-users were infected. Kind of like worrying that a brush fire will spread beyond the dry grassland into the adjacent swamp.

The Fumento book remains an excellent read even a decade later, with all his projections proving true.

Go to Center for Disease Control homepage and search AIDS stats. They used to show homosexual and drug shooter breakdowns. The entire disease was in those two groups that overlap. There is no outbreak in hetero female sex except with drug users and anal sex with bisexual males. Imagine if tobacco caused cancer in 1 in 4 users or lowered life expectancy 25 years. This myth needs exposure since it exposes they healthy lifestyle myth. This is an exclusive homosexual male disease!

Pray for W and The Truth

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posted on 03/19/2004 9:13:10 AM PST
by bray
(Hey Yaaaawn, can we hear some war stories???)

Women are far more likely to catch AIDS from an infected partner than a man. Sex normally causes microscopic tears in the lining of the vagina. While true, keep in mind that studies have found that it takes 500-1000 acts of unprotected vaginal intercourse with an infected man for a woman to become infected. Anal sex is FAR riskier, with only one or two acts required to infect, on average.

Simply put, the risk for an insertive man (with intact genital tissue) is essentially zero. The risk for a woman receiving vaginal sex is remote. The risk for an anal recipient is very high. (All for unprotected sex with an infected partner.)

...a lot of black women might not realize who their boyfriend is playing around with on the side. That would cause a upsurge in straight black female AIDS statistics. That movie-of-the-week scenario just doesn't happen. Healthy men do not contract AIDS from sex with women. The heterosexual infidelity vector just doesn't happen (except for third world populations who are covered with untreated genital sores from other STDs.)

Really. AIDS does not punish promiscuity or infidelity the way that some folks would wish. It punishes sticking infected things into places of ones body that weren't intended for them (needles in arms, etc.)

No one involved in research is given funding if they don't believe in the HIV theory of AIDS. No one has done the necessary studies to show HIV and AIDS are related. The numbers don't even make sense. If there are a million people in the USA with HIV, and HIV has a ten year latency for death there should be (and thank God there are not) about 100,000 deaths per year from AIDS. It is not happening. Karposi's Sarcoma, one of the AIDS diseases, is caused by amyl and butyl nitrate abuse, not HIV. But the CDC is not even requiring testing to show the HIV is present in an AIDS death anymore.

"Farber exposed the conspiracy between profit-hungry drug companies, researchers who wanted more funding, homosexuals who didn't want the disease to be known as "the gay plague," and conservatives who wanted to turn back the sexual revolution.

What isn't clear though, is whether straight, morally-correct men and women who DON'T screw around on their spouses (or dates) are at risk from AIDS or not.

Hint: Now that blood supplies are tested, those who follow the Law are not at risk from any VD. Now, are the millions of AIDS cases in Africa actually being spread by mosquitoes and biting flies - like dozens of other blood-transmitted diseases are?

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posted on 03/19/2004 9:24:20 AM PST
by Robert A. Cook, PE
(I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)

It isn't the largest growing group, but it is the FASTEST growing group. Apparently significant numbers of black man are 'on the down low' and serving as an AIDS vector into the hetero black community.

Correct. The Atlanta paper ran a lengthy piece a couple of weeks ago outlining the rapid growth of HIV amongst black male college students in North Carolina. Public health officials there have been tracking blood test results for several years and there is a clear upward trend to the HIV numbers.

Almost all of the infections are attributed to homo/bi sexual behavior. And the bi's are the vector for their lady friends.

An interesting side note to the article: When it came time to say "who's to blame" the author found people who pointed to the federal gov't (not enough $$, free condoms, too much emphasis on abstinence, etc.) and to conservative black clergy whose attitudes keep homosexual black men in the closet.

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