> ....As far as a "motorsailer" goes, I think you're right. I also
think
> that just about any sailboat over 30' is by definition a
motorsailer....

Long ago, somebody (think it was Eric Hiscock, or one Herreshoff or
another) said that an auxiliary sailboat should have an engine that is
sized to about one horsepower per ton of displacement. If the engine
was larger, you had a 50/50 or a motor-sailer. Nowadays just about
every sailboat designed has an engine of at least two horsepower per
ton displacement, and most have even more. Obviously, engine size no
longer marks a boat a motorsailer. So what distinguishes a
motorsailer? Is it a pilothouse, a small rig, or some other set of
features? Is it simply that the designer or (more likely in most
cases) the marketing department decides to call a boat a motorsailer,
and thus it is so? Does anyone want to venture a guess?

porky

lewisboats

the reference to built in was in the order of an engine block and shaft type of arrangement. Not ANY kind of outboard. The engine would have to be mounted

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the reference to 'built in' was in the order of an engine block and
shaft type of arrangement. Not ANY kind of outboard. The engine would
have to be mounted 'inboard' and shafted to a prop. Sorry for any
confusion. I'm thinking of a V 6 or 8 (fuel optional) mounted in a
motor housing, complete with shaft and propeller(sp?) extending
through the hull and not removeable.

--- In bolger@y..., "rlspell2000" <richard@s...> wrote:
> So, any sailboat with a "built in" motor is a motorsailer?
> Define "built-in".
>
> Obviosly, a motor hanging off the back on a dropping bracket is
> not "built in".
>
> Would a free flooding motor well count? Them most big Bolger boat
> are "motor sailors"...
>
> --- In bolger@y..., "lewisboats" <numbaoneman@b...> wrote:
> > Just a little mouse's opinion, but I think I would call any boat
> with
> > a built in motor as a motorsailer, and any boat with sails and a
> > small outboard as a sailboat with a small outboard. Sailboat
with
> > big outboard I would call 'confused' (working cargo sailers
exempt:
> > They do whats nescessary to make the money, so anything goes)
> >
> > --- In bolger@y..., "porcupinefysh" <porcupine@d...> wrote:
> > > David Ryan's post caused me to raise this question:
> > >
> > > --- In bolger@y..., David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > ....As far as a "motorsailer" goes, I think you're right. I
> also
> > > think
> > > > that just about any sailboat over 30' is by definition a
> > > motorsailer....
> > >
> > > Long ago, somebody (think it was Eric Hiscock, or one
Herreshoff
> or
> > > another) said that an auxiliary sailboat should have an engine
> that
> > is
> > > sized to about one horsepower per ton of displacement. If the
> > engine
> > > was larger, you had a 50/50 or a motor-sailer. Nowadays just
> about
> > > every sailboat designed has an engine of at least two
horsepower
> > per
> > > ton displacement, and most have even more. Obviously, engine
size
> > no
> > > longer marks a boat a motorsailer. So what distinguishes a
> > > motorsailer? Is it a pilothouse, a small rig, or some other set
> of
> > > features? Is it simply that the designer or (more likely in
most
> > > cases) the marketing department decides to call a boat a
> > motorsailer,
> > > and thus it is so? Does anyone want to venture a guess?
> > >
> > > porky

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