Xi or Wen are manipulating the chinese people only for building fortune for their families.
Jian Zeming killed millions of his own chinese for power.
at least dalai lama is a peaceful monk.
paranoid chinky boy.

Yes, I'm speechless too. Why?
I hate to tell you but both you and alex have to blame your own ignorance only and not the Dalai Lama. Does any of you have a doctorate in Buddhist philosophy? No, you don't. The Dalai Lama does.
Besides, the Dalai Lama has never claimed to be a man of moral authority. If others project that image on him, it has to be their problem. It's not his.

So, where does the notion of "non-violence" come from then? It's derived from an ancient philosophical concept that in Sanskrit is called 'ahimsa' and which is at the root of Indian religions:

"Ahimsa (Sanskrit: अहिंसा; IAST: ahiṃsā, Pāli: avihiṃsā) is a term meaning to do no harm (literally: the avoidance of violence – himsa). The word is derived from the Sanskrit root hims – to strike; himsa is injury or harm, a-himsa is the opposite of this, i.e. non harming or nonviolence.[1][2]

It is an important tenet of some Indian religions (Buddhism, Hinduism, and Jainism). Ahimsa means kindness and non-violence towards all living things including animals; it respects living beings as a unity, the belief that all living things are connected. Indian leader Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi strongly believed in this principle.[3] Avoidance of verbal and physical violence is also a part of this principle, although ahimsa recognizes self-defense when necessary, as a sign of a strong spirit. It is closely connected with the notion that all kinds of violence entail negative karmic consequences."

Gandhi regularly used fasts unto death as a political means, and Jain monks or nuns voluntarily fast unto death without any political context.
Self-immolation is, as the Dalai Lama puts it, "a little bit of violence" onto one's own body but it does not violate the principle of ahimsa. Heck, you guys don't even appreciate that those Tibetans burn themselves in protest and not your lot.

You guys are just trying to score cheap points because you love to hate what you don't understand. It's a disgrace.

[JAIHAin reply to 20th, 03:12
Yes, I'm speechless too. Why?
I hate to tell you but both you and alex have to blame your own ignorance only and not the Dalai Lama. Does any of you have a doctorate in Buddhist philosophy? No, you don't. The Dalai Lama does.]
There is also doctorate in witchcraft as well.http://www.google.com/#hl=zh-TW&tbo=d&site=&source=hp&q=doctorate+in+wit...
Devil's

1)why didn't you mentioned in your article, 2008 Tibet riot Han Chinese was assault and killed by those Dalai Lama follower? you just want to hide the truth same as BBC.

2)Dalai Lama claimed they are not seeking independent but for greater autonomous right,however in every Tibetan protect across the globe, they always hold the FREE TIBET slogan. This is the truth mouth of hypocrite Dalai LAMA who also are liar.

3)All the content of your article only show the brutality of chinese towards your pitiful exile-Tibetan, you just wanna to get more sympathy for these exile-Tibetan based on this article. and you never interview for those real Tibetan who gain economically benefit under economic reform.

BASED ON THESE 3 points, you TE and AFP are absolutely a blatant liar same as BBC. Hope KARMA will get to you soon.

Tibet is a unique region in China, mostly populated with local Tibetans, who had always slight communications with Hans in history, but trade. Things got a big change in the last twenty years, the Chinese government and its policy among locals, a little assimilated suspeciously, urged Tibetan youth for school in neighboring provinces like Qinghai, sichuan, Yuanan, Gansu, even some of the top students acquire their schooling in metropolitan cities, totally free. Primarily, they want to enhance local education and civilizations for good life when the students return home after graduation from middle school and college. The perspective is clear and clean, which simutinuously lead to some potential consquences. Namely, the students are privileged to receive free education, as well as the view of modernity in the inner region, the highly developed places. That shocked them greatly, dissatisfaction and complaints arise naturally. That is a big reason why students were presented in the protest and even in suicide demostration in Tibetan regions.
I take it as granted that they are not doing something wrong, but,is it a little bit biased? They disagree with the incoming of Hans, mostly for business,only because of their potential deprival of Tibetan freedom or destruction of their culture. Tibet is commonly known as a poor region, historically and presently. It is changing in the last 20 years, thanks for the continuous investment, expenditure and commodities on the basis of the specific policy, that is, only give with no take. The locals today consider much about their freedom out of Chinese government when they are educated, liberated and well-off. This is nothing wrong, but never forget that, freedom is not free.

The more I read some of the comments, the more I get that impression that most of our Chinese posters clearly think the old fart in Dharmasala has as much clout as he does. Their attitude is similar to that of a high society lady, when an unwelcome guest arrives at the dinner party. Is the DL in Tibet lighting the match, no. Any thing the Chinese do, whether its protesting against the Nipponese is one of individual action, and not coordinated by the state. But Tibetans are childlike and simplistic, that a mastermind must be involved.

However, the typical Western Tibetan lover who inhabits these forums is not any better. Adopting the Tibetan cause like a nice handmade Tibetan scarf, to be sent to the dry cleaners when an even more spiritually atoned peoples strike their fancy. Tibetans are Panda bears of human right, and we have a lot of Panda lovers in the West.

What is happening in Tibet is the responsibility of the Chinese government. Anything good, China takes credit, anything bad blame on the West and the old monk in India. If you were the Party Secretary in Tibet will you tell your superior, its the Dalai Lama or Westerners !!

Many of our Chinese posters bandied the whole "serfs", well you don't hear the Indonesian government talk about civilizing the Papuans and how they got them to stop BBQ people for lunch. Are your grandchildren be repeating those trite phrases in 2050? Its pathetic.

Look, how hell can they be brainwashed? All the monasteries/monks are vetted by the CPC. Nearly all the funding for the monasteries comes from the government If the government is controlling religious thought does it matter what age they enter the monastery, no it does not. Its an excuse.

What is teh difference between what the Tibetans are doing by sending their children to a monastery, and what families do when they send their children to sport schools/Shaolin Temple. Most Shaolin disciples in China start when they are 6-7, what is the difference? Most of the people killed were not monks. It first started with monks, but now its lay people that are increasingly BBQ themselves. Actually the majority of them that BBQ themselves this year are not monks., where as when it first started it was all monks.

Do most suicide bombers go to Madrassas. No, they don't. You could raise the age limit it won't make much of a difference.

Monks are relatively easy to control, and that is why there are fewer minks BBQ themselves. Lay people are much more difficult.

I am a Malaysian Chinese , I you go to that stupid Free Tibet website, Tibet exile gov claimed Tibet and Qinghai are parts of theirs. If China let Tibet to independent, 1/4 of China lands are lose to this liar Dalai Lama.

Goto youtube to search"Dalai Lama Liar" see how he suppress those "Yellow Sect" in India now.

As a clever Caucasian, pls study first before your posting,or else,its pathetic.

Chinese in Malaysia get more hours of Chinese instruction in Malaysia, than the Tibetans get Tibetan language instruction in the PRC.

Secondly, lay Tibetans BBQ themselves is China's responsibility. It happens in Chinese territory. Stop blaming the DL or the West. By the way you are not a PRC citizen or a Communist Party member, your word does not have any more weight than mine in these issues. Stop parading around, I am Malaysian Chinese, blah blah. Give me a break. If you want to show your loyalty to the PRC, became a PRC citizen and join the Communist Party.

Did I say that Tibet should be independent. I said that its China's responsibility as the country that controls Tibet. It should take responsibility and stop it, and don't blame the West and DL. Increasingly lay people are BBQ themselves, the number of monks doing it has dropped considerably.

To show that you are in control, you take responsibility for things bad or good.

There are recent reports on how the carders are going into monastery. That led me to believe that the monasteries were previously left alone pretty much. You simply assume I am trying to find an excuse for the Chinese government.

Many Tibetans want the big fraud to go back to Tibet; the big fraud will not unless Tibet becomes "free"; the reality starts to sink in that they may never see the big fraud in Tibet; and some lunatics start to self-immolate as a sacrifice to the big fraud; the big fraud stays neutral as a way to pressure the Chinese government. That's my story line. I'd love to hear your opinion on the reasons of self-immolation.

Fake Chancellor will not give you a reason of self-BBQ or he will blame China on everything.
IMO it is a cheap violent offensive propaganda against China for the exil government and Dalai Lama.
On the other hand, it is China to blame not to control Tibet properly and let this external organization to stir up things. Why can't they position/find the source/place of sending those BBQ pictures. They must have satalite receiver/sender somewhere. China need to find it out and fine those heavily.

What more can you say about the big fraud? HE is a big fraud. That's all.

I wonder if anyone remembers when the Tibetan Government in Exile claims that the rioting Tibetans/monks were peaceful during the 2008 riots because the riots only beat the Han/Hui sub-humans. The big fraud's logic is along the same line.

The problem is silly Chinese are acting hysterical over what essentially is non-violent. They are just a bunch of BBQ Tibetans. Are any Han Chinese being killed? No. It just looks bad. Don't blame others. The problem if you start blaming external organizations, then I can easily say that without the help of the Cominterm in 1921, there would be no CPC? I am right? People have such short memories.

Everyday dozens of people are killed in Southern Thailand. Yet you see no Thais whining on the Economist. Its never a good thing to insult people. Xanana Gusmao (the PM of Timor Leste) and his band of merry men were killing Indonesian soldiers /civilians by the hundreds every year in the 1980s. Eventually they caught up to him, and imprisoned him. The situation in East Timor was bad, but few Indonesians knew about it at the time (censorships). How did I know, because my father managed to sneak in (one of the only foreigners to have gone in) in 1980s. He said it was really bad, and Indonesian should just leave. When Indonesians used to whine about the West and East Timor in the early 1990s, I used to tell them why don't you join the Indonesian Army.

As a Chinese person you think you know what is going on. Do you really know? Tibetans will never tell what is going on in their mind to a Han Chinese. Never. I have never lived as a majority in any country I lived in. Minorities have a natural defence mechanism, whether its a democracy or dictatorship. In Indonesia, Christians will never tell certain things to Muslims, even if there good friends. While they will talk to complete strangers who are non-Muslim about certain things. In the US, Black people don't tell certain things to white people. So that is why I don't believe a word that any Han Chinese who says I know what the Tibetans feel, my best friends are Tibetans blah blah. I am not born yesterday.

The concept of self-immolation is not new in Buddhism. Most Buddhist would say its violent, but whether its justified, its up to debate. Here is a Buddhist explanation of self-immolation.

I did try to read through the link you provided. To be honest it is too long, just like some of JAIHA's posts when he tries to explain the ins-and-outs. My simple mind can not concentrate that long. Often when something needs that many words to explain I will have to stay ignorant and guilty as accused by JAIHA. It will be hard for anyone to convince me that self-immolation is not violence.

Anyway my feel is that China has made a decision to NOT deal with the big Lama in his current reincarnation. When HE goes into hibernation we may see mass suicides together with riots followed by merciless strike down. The current self-immolation is just a rehearsal.

Anyway my feel is that China has made a decision to NOT deal with the big Lama in his current reincarnation. When HE goes into hibernation we may see mass suicides together with riots followed by merciless strike down. The current self-immolation is just a rehearsal.
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Then the world should see how terrible religion is.
Zionist, Salafist, Buddhist are all the same.

The big fraud in China today is the CCP. The rest is only people trying to (and correctly) express their frustration with this communist system. Historically, it has been like this. A dictatorship will NEVER deserve to be applauded.

This entire discussion board is tainted with anti-Tibetan propaganda aimed at belittling the very foundation, culture and existence of Tibet itself. I don't support anyone here but this is just a ridiculous and disgraceful way of manipulating the viewers online. China is nothing but a USSR with small eyes. Let's see what you agents-who-get-paid-to-spam have to say to me. Give me your best shot I'm pretty much perfect. All of you users are probably the same anyway.

The entire discussion is not about Tibet or pro-Tibet or Anti-Tibet. The fact is that the Tibetans are more happy now because they have a better life and they can express themselves because they are no longer slaves. It is true that one of the posters, namely, Ivankaramazov, would like to see them starve but this poster is a fool and a coward.
This article was published because the Dalai Lama clique of exiles are trying to raise funds and, as usual, they seek the support of the western media. The whole discussion is therefore centred around the clique of exiles who are led by a terrorist cloaked as a monk.

You first just read The Economist. You sometimes skim through the comment section. You start seeing some awkward, stupid, one-style comments. You realize they are paid by Chinese government. You disgust. And you start commenting yourself.

Chinese-government-paid agents think they are influencing public opinion here by commenting useless shit. Because thats how they brainwash their uneducated public back in China.

Unfortunately for them, their strategy does not work here. It actually draws clear line between regular readers like us and paid-agents, and injects some immunization vaccine into other readers' mind.

You are an ideologue who had already made up your mind to be a rabid antichinese. What is there to talk? What did Clausewitz said about war? You think the weight of all your monasteries in Tibet is equivalent to the weight of all the steel, the armour and the divisions in the chinese state? Think again before you opened your mouth and needlessly encouraged Tibetans to commit sucide.

If you really believe what this articles says, then congratulations to your government because again they have succeeded in making you think in the way they want you to do. Just as a reminder of UK's glorious colonial past in India and other countries including the US whose valiant people ever fought for their freedom and land that they are actually sharing with the local Indian mates in a friendly manner. There was no killing, no oppression, no plundering at all throughout the history. That explains why a country that no longer yields to western hegemony and act in others' interests gets such just and objective reports. People who write this apparently holds no prejudice and never distort facts--they are really telling you the truth, they always tell you facts and never make things up. So Just Trust it!!

China's actions are justified based on the fact that the Tibetans are no longer slaves and they have a much better life.
As for the western countries, they are merely murderers and genociders who wiped out a whole nation of natives in North America, who carried out a shameful slaves trade for two centuries and killed and tortured tens of millions of Africans in the process, who murdered more than a million Iraqis for no valid reason, who killed more than 40,000 Libysnas when they dropped their bombs on Libya because they thought they were dropping flowers, who are providing arms and money to a group of terrorists in Syria.

Mao starved to death more than 30,000,000 people during his brilliant Great Leap Forward (btw, great piece of "indigenous innovation"). How can you proclaim that China saved Tibet from slavery when you're still a serf?

You want to know how many famines there were in India under British Rule? You heard of the Great Bengal Famine in 1942? You want to know what happened to the Zulu in South Africa who rebelled against the British? You want to know who invented concentration camps in South Africa? You want to know how the British crushed Boer resistance in South Africa? Read up your history of the British Empire before you talk and not disgrace whatever intellect that is still left with you.

Serf is a russian word. Get your basic fact correct before you disgraced yourself further. Furthermore serfs are not slaves but russians peasants and this again showed your ignorance of russian history. Finally how did you know 30 million chinese died under Mao. Did you physically go and count it or you pluck fiqures from secondary sources? If I say one million Irish died in the Potato Blight Famine, would you agree with me?

It is interesting that you have come to this conclusion based on my comment because what you did actually justified what I said about western media-they did well in leading they way you think. The West never seem to mention their colonial history because they know it is by no means something very glorious to mention. At the same time, the West always sees others in its own image and judge others based on their own principles. But you really should know how funny it is that the West dares to claim that China is colonizing in Tibet when obviously it is the case not with China but with themselves.

First of all, I doubt the reliability of the figure that you give. Second, you only know the fact that there was a Great Leap movement but you do not know why it was so and obviously you are never interested in. As a foreigner I would say that you seem to know a lot about the history of China, therefore I would expect that you read more about it before talking here stupidly. Furthermore, I would expect that you check your own brilliant history of colonization, murdering, plundering in India and China, killing at least ten times the figure that you gave above. How does this sound?

If you really believe what this articles says, then congratulations to your government because again they have succeeded in making you think in the way they want you to do. Just as a reminder of UK's glorious colonial past in India and other countries including the US whose valiant people ever fought for their freedom and land that they are actually sharing with the local Indian mates in a friendly manner. There was no killing, no oppression, no plundering at all throughout the history. That explains why a country that no longer yields to western hegemony and act in others' interests gets such just and objective reports. People who write this apparently holds no prejudice and never distort facts--they are really telling you the truth, they always tell you facts and never make things up. So Just Trust it!!

Tibetans ain't no surfing no more! They live free, no longer perspiring but celibating under the loving beneviolent coercive care and gentle goadance of the CommunoCapitalistic Party with Chinese Characteristics, Reform and Opening Up, Social Harmony, Scientific Outlook and Development and Emancipating the Mind (but no more public self-enlightenments and ameliorations pleeze!)
Serf's up dudes!
It isn't really the Dehli Llama but the evil West that's behind all these Chinese Divisions in Tibet. The Dehli Llama is merrely a pupette of the imperialist paper tigers. Let us joyfully celibate the Serf Emasculation Day in Tibet. (excuse my chinglish, but I am just a poor Wu-Mao-Dang)

(1) All the nations of the world recognizes that China have the sovereignty over Tibet. In the world of International Relationship, and International Diplomacy---the world recognizes that Tibet is a part of China

(2) The United Nations recognizes that Tibet is a part of China

(3) The Dalai Lama , himself, had already announced many times to the world, that "China is a part of China"

(4) All the Religious Sects of TIBETAN LAMAISM BUDDHISM (including the Dalai Lama's own Gelupa Sect) believes and preaches that Tibet is a province of China

(5) The Tibetan Lamaism Buddhism prays to the Emperor of China as the Reincarnation of the Manjusri Boddhavatta in his earthy throne.

(6) The History Books on China/Tibet written by Catholic European Scholars based in Beijing from 1500-1800 confirms that Tibet is a part of China

(7) American, European, Atlas and maps from 1700-1800-1900-2012 show that Tibet is a part of China

(8) The first official British Trade Mission to Tibet in 1780s went to Lhasa and was told by the Dalai Lama that Tibet is a Chinese Province and that he must get permission from the Emperor in Beijing in order to trade with Tibet

(9) The British Govt signed the Anglo-Chinese Protocol in 1870 in Beijing to confirm that Britain would seek China's permission before doing anything in Tibet

(10)In 1762, the Emperor Qian Loong wrote the Imperial Edict on "21 points to improve the Administration of the Province of Tibet" which includes the "GOLDEN URN" Method to select any new Dalai Lama

(11) The Catholic Encyclopedia of 1903 reported that,== Catholic Missionaries based in Tibet in 1762 wrote of the Zungar Mongols attacking Lhasa and that the Dalai Lama sent an appeal to his Chinese Emperor to send military re-inforcements to defend Tibet

(12) In the 1940-1947s , American Presidents Roosevelt and Truman both had assured Chinese President Chiang Kai-Shek that the USA recognized the China sovereignty over Tibet

Oh they absolutely do. The Tibetans see it that way by acting on it. Last year over eight thousands ethnic Tibetan Chinese travel overseas for pleasure. These means that they are well off enough to afford a foreign vacations. And there are many many more Tibetans Chinese travel within China. Hainan is a hot spot for Tibetans because even Tibetans like to enjoy the sun and beaches of Hainan. That is the most powerful testimony of the general improvements of the lives of the Tibetans.

This of course cannot be said of the Tibetans in occupied South Tibet (so called AP). There the availability of food is still a problem, not to mention pleasure trips. But of course the Indians will tell you that they are 'enjoying' Indian democracy there.

Same old prevailing logic... That's fine. Perhaps Tibetan's standard of living is on the rise and in a couple more generations they'll really feel fine about having been forced to trade their sovereignty, national identity and culture.

That still leaves the gaping question of how Tibet would have faired in her own destiny if CCP tanks hadn't invaded 60 years ago.

I love how you CCP guys automatically assume Tibetans should be so accepting of being Chinese.

There is no such question of China invading Tibet 60 years ago. It is a make up issue invented by the Western powers including the CIA monk Dalai Lama for political reasons. But even the Western powers, including the U.S. and Britain at no time regard Tibet to be NOT part of China. The Tibetans certainly consider Tibet to be part of China. I am talking about the real Tibetans of course. Not the exiled types.

"Real Tibetans", like the ones that torch themselves in protest of Chinese occupation?

Why not the CCP put it out for a vote? Let Tibet decide by referendum if it wants to be part of China?

"Issue made up by the Western powers..."? Please. Tell that to the KMT as they were working with Tibetans against the CCP and let's don't forget the "issue" of the seventeen point agreement that the CCP quickly proceded to piss on.

Nope, sorry, it was a straight up invasion on the part of the Red Chinese.

The KMT certainly consider Tibet (including occupied South Tibet which India invaded and now called it AP) to be part of China. If you don't believe me go to Taiwan and buy a map of the Republic of China.

Do chinese government and its muppets think they are in a paradise?! As more people generates information, as more people will want to have access to information. That's the "curso natural". When people doesn't feel represented in the government, there are tendencies to be violent. That's the "rumo natural". China will need CENTURIES to make its recent history clean and not a "reason" to people get "revoltada, racialista e vingativa" (revolted, racialist and revengeful).

Well, I read The Economist to get new information and new knowledge. I also at least go through the comment section once in a while because I saw many meaningful discussions raised by educated readers.

Unfortunately, when the Communist Party of China began paying its agents to comment here, the comment section lost its virtue. And that urged me to start commenting here.

Why? because these Communist-party-paid agents do not know how to engage in fruitful discussion. They are just not raised that way. All they do is to dig who the commentator is, whether that person is the "enemy" of their Communist Party or not et cetera. Ant it is disgusting how they defend their stinky Communist Party and corrupt Politicians!

China is a great country with long history. I read history of China with fascination and admiration, and am always respectful for their contribution to the development of mankind.

On the other hand, I am critical to current leadership of China because of its suppression of minorities, its horrible human rights record, and lack of transparency etc., AND I have a right to be critical! It is just so alien to these idiot CCP-paid-agents to have different opinion about their Communist Party!

For these paid-agents, one should only write good things about the CCP. One cannot have different opinion than the Party ideology. Once cannot engage in meaningful discussion about how China is doing now, and what its future looks like.

I'm sorry for my late reply to the question you had for me yesterday. The Great Firewall of China went ballistic and my VPN played up as well...

The imposition of the AFSPA in AP apparently goes back to 1958, so it seems it was related to rising tensions with China on the Indo-Tibetan border and not to unrest in AP.
In any case, I agree fully with the U.N. to repeal it:

The reason brought forward by the U.N. was:
// “I have heard extensive evidence of action taken under this law that resulted in innocent lives being lost, in Jammu and Kashmir and in Assam, where witnesses from neighbouring States also assembled. This law was described to me as ‘hated' and a member of a State Human Rights Commission called it ‘draconian,'” Mr. Heyns said. //

More specifically:
// The United Nations human rights chief today urged China to address the allegations of rights violations in Tibet, which have led to an alarming escalation of “desperate” forms of protest in the region, including self-immolations.

The UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Navi Pillay, said she was disturbed by “continuing allegations of violence against Tibetans seeking to exercise their fundamental human rights of freedom of expression, association and religion,” and pointed to “reports of detentions and disappearances, of excessive use of force against peaceful demonstrators, and curbs on the cultural rights of Tibetans.”
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Among the cases reported is that of a 17-year-old girl who was severely beaten and sentenced to three years in prison for distributing flyers calling for Tibet’s freedom and the return of the Dalai Lama. Others have been sentenced to up to seven years in prison for writing essays, making films or distributing photos of events in Tibet outside of China. Serious concerns have also been raised about fair trial standards, and the torture and ill-treatment of detainees.

The human rights chief appealed to Tibetans to refrain from resorting to extreme forms of protest and urged community and religious leaders to use their influence to help prevent any further loss of life.

“I recognize Tibetans’ intense sense of frustration and despair which has led them to resort to such extreme means,” she noted, “but there are other ways to make those feelings clear. The Government also needs to recognize this, and permit Tibetans to express their feelings without fear of retribution.”

Ms. Pillay also urged the Government to allow independent and impartial monitors to visit and assess conditions on the ground and to lift restrictions on media access to the region. There are currently 12 outstanding requests for official visits to China by UN Special Rapporteurs on various human rights issues, including freedom of religion and belief." //

AFSPA is a provision specifically target for internal security reason. It has nothing to do with national security concern. Specifically it give the police power to detain and kill anyone with impunity.

The reason for AFSPA is for no reason other than to intimidate the locals not to challenge the government. Kashmir, Manipurs, Assam,...etc. are the other states that has AFSPA in place. This should be an black eye for the so called world's largest democracy.

I agree 100% of what you say. Now replace communist agents with western agents and now you know why there is a virulent anti china hotbed of western agents in the western press. Do we need to say anything more? The boot is now on the other foot. Say something more original. At least that way readers of TE can benefit from the great Russian intellectualism

That's no fair play mate. Asking somebody to commit suicide. He has as much right to comment as you and me. This is a blogging site, not he British Royal Commission of Inquiry! Let him spew his nonsense. Like pornography you would recognise it right away for what it is.

BEIJING — Before dawn on March 18, a black Ferrari slammed into a concrete barrier in Beijing, killing the young male driver, badly injuring two young women and setting off yet another episode in the soap opera that has become Chinese politics.

At the time, coverage of the fiery crash was quickly scrubbed from the media and microblogs, the identity of the driver merely the subject of rumor.

Now, Chinese-language media outside the mainland are reporting that he was the son of Ling Jihua, until recently head of the Communist Party’s general office of the central committee — in effect, chief of staff for President Hu Jintao.

One of Hu’s closest associates for two decades, Ling was demoted over the weekend in what might be fallout from the crash. Ordinarily, the loss of a son would engender sympathy not censure, but the cost of the 458 Spider — reportedly worth about $700,000 — suggested a family with more disposable income than is befitting a public servant in a Communist country.

Moreover, a report Monday in the South China Morning Post identifying the driver as Ling Gu, believed to be in his 20s, said the young man was half-naked and one of the women completely naked, suggesting there was sexual activity in the car before the 4 a.m. crash.

The injured women were reported by the newspaper to be students at the Central University of Minorities, one a Tibetan and the other a Uighur.

Oh yes, they're really on the rise now. A couple of women are the sex toys of an over-priviliged, out-of-control son of a Party member and it sevres to demonstrate that all is well with the ethnic minorities in China.

Let me put it a different way. While the kid in the nice car was perfectly happy to enjoy what these women had to offer (I'm going to assume it was all mutually beneficial) do you really think he'd ever inrtroduce either of those women to his parents?

Again and again the horrible events with regard to the self-immolations in Tibet shows that the Dalai Lama and the exiled Tibetan Government have been up to their old tricks of damaging the Tibetan cause. These horrible people have been encouraging misguided Tibetans to commit suicide just to score political points. Innocent Tibetans are tricked and brainwashed into committing suicide just to satisfy the blood lust and immorality of the ex-slave ownners the Dalai Lama and his supporters. In the eyes of the Dalai Lama and his supporters, the innocent Tibetans sacrificing themselves are nothing more than dispensible pawns. The Dalai Lama and his supporters are hypocrites when it comes to the welfare of Tibetans. It is about time this evil stops.

You are Chinese-government-paid agent. No one will believe you except your fellows who are also paid by the CCP. Your job is to copy and paste a statement prepared by Propaganda Department of the Chinese Communist Party. Idiots.

China shall not stand united. As Brazilian, I know how is to live in a country without all numbers being said. When China open its "blackboxes", it'll be hard to convince people not to be violent and secessionist. The spring might come! *and there will be a lot of money to support it.

I agree with you. But the Chinese-government paid commentators here are not intelligent enough to understand that. They are simply poor souls brainwashed by their un-elected, corrupt, and communist leaders.

The paid-commentators do know they are wrong.. and they don't care. They are not inclined to think nor to have mercy. The very unique language they really understand are the money.. and the violence. It doesn't matter what you write or speak. They will be always against you. That's why some things just "happen" in violent contexts: who didn't use to hear, probably won't have the "ideal conditions" to be heard.

i ofen read ecnomists,many of your passeges really reveal my country's problems except racialism. we Han people is the mainstream of society,and it is definitely not because racialism,if you are so certain about your opinon on Tibetan,i suggest you do a survey in every district in china, just to fnd how many Han or Hui people hate TIBETANS. i am sure the result will disappoint you

From what you are saying about the racial and cultural differences between the Han Chinese and the Tibetan --- you are also calling for the White Americans to leave America and return all lands to the Natives

You claimed that since Han Chinese are different racially and culturally with Tibetans --- China should leave Tibet --- thus your argument also says that Pres OBAMA is racially different from rthe White Americans --- Pres OBAMA have no right to become the President of America

You are also advocating that India give up Arunadal Pradesh because the Indians look different from the native Tibetans there

How about Assam --- the Assamese are yellow people who claim to be closer to Koreans --- different from the black skin Indians--- why dont India give up ASSSAM

(2) The Latinos and Hispanics in California are also racially different fro the Anglos (WASP) --- and here , you will be advocating independence for California because of the racial difference---(the Latinos are fast becoming the majority in California)

last paragraph "That could mean more bad news for Japanese automakers and other companies suffering from falling sales in China. In the latest sign that the island dispute is taking its toll on Japanese companies, Nissan (7201:JP) said on Nov. 6 that falling China sales would lead to a 19 percent income reduction, wiping out $760 million."

For the Japanese, Abe standing next to that flag is just one more way for them to give China the bird. Such jestures will continue on both sides but I think the only time it really matters is when the respective governments (or media) want to stir up national sentiment.

I have to wonder how much of the apparent animosity between them is cultivated by their leaders to use as some kind of tool.

@ IvanKaramazov
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you are no 'west' but a hatemonger out of somewhere in asia.
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for a bunch of terrorist acts, and you have the ball to ask 'Is self-immolation of 70 Tibetan monks not enough for you? ' ???
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no one should tolerate such terrorism, in tibet or anywhere else on earth.

There are mainly three nations which are most interested in seeing a disturbing Tibet. They are UK, US and India. For UK, its dream to grap more land for India is still there. US wants to uphold its human right according to its perspective. India has inherited the expansion program from UK and wants a better deal in the negotiation with China. India has a very good appetite for land in the Himalayas.

This just confirms that you guys all are Communist-party-paid commentators, haha. Instead of arguing about the facts, no one of you poor souls cannot give me one good reason where Communist China get its legitimacy to rule Tibet.

You care about commentators' identity, because in your Communist system, that is all matters! You have been watched and controlled by your government from your birth, and never ever were able to express your opinion on your own.

This is NOT how you build "harmonous society."

Next time, care more about what that person have to say, not about who that person is. Outside your communist country, they teach this simple principle in the 1st grade. Watch and learn suckers.

Who's right wing politics are you talking about? In China the right wing is Communist Party, in some areas of the world Communism is about as far left as you can get. But we can all plainly see that most active bodies calling themselves Communists are in face very very conservative, placing them far to the right on the political scale.

How would you know? Are you a clairvoyant? Or maybe you are a taoist mystic who is drunk with 'fengshui". Either way, it do no credit to your intellect or your ancestry. Read up your leader speech on "SCIENTIFIC" socialism!