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Just got into a huge debate with a co-worker about RG3

He is a huge Skins fan and says that RG3 will light it up this coming year. My argument to him was that after this bad knee injury he wont be as mobile or a huge threat to run anymore. The defenses around the league will be able to defend him a lot better knowing he can't run or won't be allowed to run as much. His argument was that RG3 has the arm and pocket presence to repeat what he did last year and put up even bigger numbers, in other words he believer RG3 will dominate as a pocket passer.

I know RG3 is not a Vick type player but am I wrong in thinking he won't be effective as a pocket passer as we was with the option play? I know the kid has a good arm but there is a lot more to being a successful QB year in and year out then having a good arm. Not saying he will be rex grossman but i doubt he will have a season like he did last year.

If RG3 is to re-establish himself as a pocket passer he would have to be developed into one by the coaches. I've been saying this all along. He could be really dangerous as a passer. I just don't think his coaches are patient enough to take a few seasons of development. They want results fast and because of that he'll continue to run and put himself more in harm's way.

RG3 is in a tough situation. If he choses to play like he did last season, he could put up huge numbers, but more than likely his career will be very short. If he turns himself into a true pocket passer, he could still be good, but it takes away the one thing that makes him dynamic. Chose your poison.

I agree with you 150 percent. Even without the injury I don't think he would have the type season he had last year. History says he won't. Look at a the other QBs that had break out yrs their first season only to be figured out in their second season by defenses and have bad yrs. I'm speaking of Cam Newton and Vince Young... Even Vick for the most part was figured out and started to take a pounding after while...

Football has been very, very good to us.
Even though 2013 & 2014 was a losing season's, we can console ourselves with this fact-

# of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
2-Washington, Green Bay, Denver, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
3-San Francisco, Dallas
4-New York Giants!!! & NE
Let's make it 5 in 2015 so we can be on a LINE all by ourselves again!!!

Depends how the healing goes. If he's back to 100% then he's gonna be a huge problem to contain for us. As much as I dislike the skins, they got a great qb drafting this guy. If he works on his pocket skills and throwing under pressure I think he'll be a force to be reckoned with. At the same time, we may never see the same RG3 again if this knee turns out to be a bigger problem than their FO is advertising it as.http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...an-advertised/

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RG3 is in a tough situation. If he choses to play like he did last season, he could put up huge numbers, but more than likely his career will be very short. If he turns himself into a true pocket passer, he could still be good, but it takes away the one thing that makes him dynamic. Chose your poison.

If Shanahan was smart about this he'd try to drill it into RG3's head that he should re-apply his mobility to help his passing game. Teach him to slide and only run if there's absolutely no other option. That way he'd still be dynamic but still a passer. All of that takes time. They'd have to invest at least another season or two teaching him that style of play. It just won't happen.

I agree with you 150 percent. Even without the injury I don't think he would have the type season he had last year. History says he won't. Look at a the other QBs that had break out yrs their first season only to be figured out in their second season by defenses and have bad yrs. I'm speaking of Cam Newton and Vince Young... Even Vick for the most part was figured out and started to take a pounding after while...

Vince Young's biggest problem was his head and heart, but that's a whole other story.

He is a huge Skins fan and says that RG3 will light it up this coming year. My argument to him was that after this bad knee injury he wont be as mobile or a huge threat to run anymore. The defenses around the league will be able to defend him a lot better knowing he can't run or won't be allowed to run as much. His argument was that RG3 has the arm and pocket presence to repeat what he did last year and put up even bigger numbers, in other words he believer RG3 will dominate as a pocket passer.

I know RG3 is not a Vick type player but am I wrong in thinking he won't be effective as a pocket passer as we was with the option play? I know the kid has a good arm but there is a lot more to being a successful QB year in and year out then having a good arm. Not saying he will be rex grossman but i doubt he will have a season like he did last year.

RG however is not going to be the same QB he was last season for a long long time, if ever and you can bank on that. That was a horrific injury he suffered. He can say all the positive things he wants but he knows deep down he will be scared and hesitant he will have a career ending event if he hurts it again, therefore he will be tentative. after the college injury ACL and the tweaking it during the few games prior to the playoff. Then getting hurt further in the the playoff game, right their was enough to bench him for the season playoff game or not. But no, stupid skins coaches had to push the envelope and now they may have ruined their future by playing him to long.. He will be know as RG -3 next season. Meaning he will be taking a beating losing yards,behind the line of scrimmage when he takes a knee or falls down to avoid being hit

Football has been very, very good to us.
Even though 2013 & 2014 was a losing season's, we can console ourselves with this fact-

# of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
2-Washington, Green Bay, Denver, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
3-San Francisco, Dallas
4-New York Giants!!! & NE
Let's make it 5 in 2015 so we can be on a LINE all by ourselves again!!!