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Lady of the House

Not Beto. He voted against a ban on fracking in the Gulf, voted to defang Dodd-Frank. If he really is the "white Obama" he will also put Social Security and Medicare on the table in some "Grand Bargain." All he is is cute. Nah, hard pass.

Queer OccupyE9 Sluni-Goon

No matter who runs against him, the attacks will be the same. Besides, not only did HRC get a comfortable majority, the midterms showed women having high approval.

I hate to put things in misogynistic terms, but -
Government is a mess right now. If it has to be explained that we're perfectly fine with men leading government as soon as women have had time to clean up the mess, so be it.

I have every intention of giving a female candidate higher priority right now. Preferring Harris myself, but any of them that wants to run, should. Her and Warren both should be able to get support from most Democrats in the end, even if either looks like they're taking hits from skeptics now. As capable as Biden is, I think Democrats are ready to bypass the older white guys.

Queer OccupyE9 Sluni-Goon

I think that focusing on identity alone is a mistake. I am a policy person. I don't care if it comes from an old white guy, a young woman of color, or a trans person of any stripe. It's wonderful to make history, but history is not enoughif they won't make meaningful moves on healthcare, climate change, etc. Biden is capable but if he takes the wrong policy positions (and in a couple of areas I think he would, thus my objection), then he should go. But his white maleness should not be a disqualifier alone.

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Not Beto. He voted against a ban on fracking in the Gulf, voted to defang Dodd-Frank. If he really is the "white Obama" he will also put Social Security and Medicare on the table in some "Grand Bargain." All he is is cute. Nah, hard pass.

Queer OccupyE9 Sluni-Goon

Why would anyone pay attention to a reply talking about Bernie when it uses Pepe?

I have to admit being a bit torn. His policies align with where I come from (nordic countries) while hers work within the systems we already have in the US. It is basically choosing between an ideal and a practical reality, with both people great at their respective approaches.

It is still way to early to tell for sure however my hope is they will not wind up running against each other. Between them they could split the progressive part of the left and we could have another HRC clone taking on donnie. Bernie would serve his goals better if he was her running mate or took a position within her administration. Even as a campaign surrogate with promises to support his platform from Warren.

That reminds me, I should talk to my sister, who is up in NH, about what she thinks about all this since she was also at a Bernie rally (and her and my niece even wound up on stage behind him).

"When I was working on ''The Wilderness' [documentary], I spoke to Obama-Trump voters and Obama voters who didn’t vote in '16, and both groups were highly favorable toward ideas like Medicare for All, big infrastructure spending, and a $15 minimum wage."