>>77739805And all his books wth teenagers have been complete turd.Also, Cable & X-Force is overrated, he turned Cable into glorified radio, Hope into spoiled brat and Forge and Dr. Nemesis into pair of manchildren used to glorify the childhood he wasted on shitty video games.And Season One was not even a story, just a bunch of jokes put between "copy this and this scene from Lee & Kirby".

>>77740617Yeah. Actually this goes for everyone on the team. We actually survived Bendis and it's finally over. No more retarded black leather, no more tacticool, no more Tron lines. Fuck it feels good.

>>77739870>And Season One was not even a storyX-Men Season One was kind of a mess behind the scenes. Hopeless was like the third writer on it, also his first paid gig, so he pretty much scripted out a story written by someone(s) else

Cable and X-Force was kind of weird behind the scenes, the only X-Force Hopless knew was Remender's because he didn't read comics until college. So he was told that Cable, Colossus, and Domino had to be on the team by editorial and he could make up the rest

source on all this is his recent interview on Rachel and Miles X-Plain the X-Men

>>77740838Hopeless doesn't have luck, does he?He didn't want to do Avengers Arena, he wanted to go straight to Avengers Undercover, but Marvel sort of forced him to do AA. And when he finally could do Undercover, his name was so toxic, that no one bought the book.

>>77740742No kidding. What they did to Magneto and Emma was a crime against humanity. But I would have been able to roll wit it had it actually served a point, like a symbol of a genuine revolution. But of course Bendis only cares about slice of life. Shit they should have just kept Gillen on the main book, and give Bendis some kind of behind the scenes shit, like Cyke and his team chilling out between guerrilla raids, pushing their shit on social media, doing propaganda documentaries, whatever.

>>77740901I think what he wanted was to do a comic with just the Braddock Academy kids and Avengers Arena was just one story arc he had planned

I wonder if he was straight up given a kill list by an editor

Ultimately the behind the scenes stuff doesn't matter because unless he wants to explain those stories to every reader the finished product is what matters the most. Sometimes turning down an assignment can be the smart choice

>>77741180It's really boring to explain this again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again.It's like you faggots are doing it on purpose

>the best artist working on X-Men comics while the core book has fucking Ramos>it's wasted on fucking HopelessWhat is Marvel's problem? Just give me the good artists with the good writers instead of pairing all their good people with fucking Bendis or Humphries or Hopeless.

>>77741374Because no one would believe them, and for many citizens, they don't care. They are angry, and any reason is good for them.Also, over decades there were many approaches to the mutants outside of x-books.

I will now storytime a peculiar marvel comic.You see, early in the 00s marvel published a series of comics that were presenting HOW marvel citizens seen various characters.

It was basically Marvel Comics in-universe.You had Daredevil being portrayed as a mix of Ghost Rider and Punisher, Captain America being a progaganda book, FF being a celebrity tabloid, Spider-Man being a scary alien, and X-Men, a suicide squad.

>>77741583It's worth noting that Doctor Strange is featured here, even if he isn't mutant, because Marvel citizens are dumb, and think of him as one. Also, anyone who read Doctor Strange series knows that ocassionaly, there were angry mobs protesting against Dr Strange and calling magic unnatural, and a violation of physics law.

>>77741835And that's it. I feel a little sleepy, but I'll try to find that spider-man issue when a dude is killed, because he is mistaken for a mutant.

Also, it's worth noting that over years there were also many done-in-one stories presenting casual life of mutants and how they handled their powers. Even in Alias, you have some interesting arc about a girl that pretends to be a mutant to be edgy teenager.

>>77741315yeah because it's not like people hated a specific group of people for beink bankers and moneylenders but were perfectly fine with other people being bankers and moneylenders as long as they didn't belong to that group. because that wouldn't make sense.

>>77741574>The leak that has had things confirmedThe same "leak" that had multiple things confirmed fake. Just because Rich Johnston made a blog post about some anon posting made up shit on /co/ doesn't make it true.

>>77740978>I wonder if he was straight up given a kill list by an editor

According to interviews, he was free to kill damn near whomever he wanted.

Behind the scenes things may have contributed to Arena and Undercover being shit, but Hopeless did it no favors either. He chose who to kill and how, he chose to make the death's be real in a futile attempt to make them matter, and he chose to portray the characters as he did.

Oh bullshit, humankind is notoriously contradictory in everything it does. We will take anything superficially different and start hating it out of pure ignorance, fear, malice or just plain stupidity.

>>77740212No. That's better. At least she had a personality back then.Now she's just a generic action girl. Good job Bendis, good job Soule, Now every writer comes in and has no need to research anything because there's nothing to research anymore. She's truly Logan with tits now and nothing else.

>>77741299They did more than that. Full blown terrorist attacks and Cap had to go on stakeout over their place to prevent riots.It honestly baffles me that there are people who think Spider-man has always been beloved by New York.

>>77740838>X-Men Season One was kind of a mess behind the scenes.>Cable and X-Force was kind of weird behind the scenes,>source on all this is his recent interview on Rachel and Miles X-Plain the X-MenLike the three contradictionary backstories of Arena? 5 bucks he lies.>>77740901>He didn't want to do Avengers Arena, he wanted to go straight to Avengers UndercoverAnother contradictionary backstory of this book given to make excuses for him.Do I hear five?

>>77741002He is not having an exclusive contract, right? Then yes, he can turn it down. He is not an employee yet, most of the reasons why writers want exclusive contracts is that they become real employees, not just some guy taking whichever work they offer.

>>77757228it is. People like that are the goddam reason why comics industry is such shit - they will buy anything with their fave, no matter how bad it is. Which leads Big Two to try to ramp up the controversy to make free publicity from all the angry fanboy uproar, since they will still buy the book. Which leads to shit like Avengers Arena.Avengers Arena, which was written by guy who writes this book above and is a fine proof this is gonna suck balls

>>77757364There is a difference between having a favorite character and being obsessed idiot who buys books they don't like or don't enjoy just to have full collection. Generally if a book is bad, don't buy it, ESPECIALLY if it has your farvorite character - if you do buy it publisher will be more likely to keep whatever shitty direction has been given to them in that book. It's fucking simple. Completionists ruin comics for everyone else.

>>77757463Don't forget the retards that buy books for it's art instead of story. It gives people the false interpretation that it's the writing that makes it popular. And then they use the excuse that they're "supporting the artist" when it's always the writer that's front and center.

>>77757794If you want to support the artist, buy their indie works. Marvel book selling around 20k is bad sales and artist rather won't get much. Image book selling around 20k means writer and artist buy everyone a drink to celebrate large amount of money.

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