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Actually, if Mattel kept the same set up (12 monthly figures, 4 quarterly items, 1 sub exclusive), they could very well introduce a vehicle as one of the quarterly items. The Wind Raider is now being sold at $50, and there are currently 2 skus at or above that amount in 2013.

The Star Sisters were awesome, they sold out, and were a success. The 2012 Sub sold really well. Better than 2013. Scott said that the Star Sisters sold out, and we haven't seen them once at a discount on Matty.

It's fine if a small but vocal group doesn't like them, but I'm a bit weary of hearing how they were some dismal failure.

The problem most people (myself included) have with the Star Sisters is the way they were sold. Doing them as an expensive three-pack makes it impossible to sell them without losing a fortune. If they had been sold individually, it would have been much easier to sell them. I personally like Starla and would have been happy getting just her, but I don't care for Tallstar or Jewelstar. I'm stuck with two figures I don't want. Had they been sold separately, I would have been able to sell the two I don't want at maybe a slight loss. Instead, I'm stuck with a three-pack I don't want, or I can possibly sell them at a massive loss.

As for them being successful: as long as we don't know the actual production numbers, we'll never know if they were really that successful. Mattel may have only made a very limited amount beyond the actual sub numbers. I find it hard to believe that so many people wanted the three-pack when you see them going for $20 on ebay. Nothing against the Star Sisters (they deserved to be made), but it was a horrible idea to sell them as a three-pack.

The problem most people (myself included) have with the Star Sisters is the way they were sold. Doing them as an expensive three-pack makes it impossible to sell them without losing a fortune. If they had been sold individually, it would have been much easier to sell them. I personally like Starla and would have been happy getting just her, but I don't care for Tallstar or Jewelstar. I'm stuck with two figures I don't want. Had they been sold separately, I would have been able to sell the two I don't want at maybe a slight loss. Instead, I'm stuck with a three-pack I don't want, or I can possibly sell them at a massive loss.

As for them being successful: as long as we don't know the actual production numbers, we'll never know if they were really that successful. Mattel may have only made a very limited amount beyond the actual sub numbers. I find it hard to believe that so many people wanted the three-pack when you see them going for $20 on ebay. Nothing against the Star Sisters (they deserved to be made), but it was a horrible idea to sell them as a three-pack.

People would have complained that they were taking up 3 normal monthly slots, instead of a quarterly slot.

It's sad that no matter what the topic the Star Sisters comes up as a waste of a slot and money. I like them and would MUCH rather them than a vehicle. I have zero interest in any vehicle. I am only in it for the figures. Even some the beast's I have zero interest in. Give me more figures (not oversize like Procrustus) and I am a happy man. I would like to see some love shown to the core Great rebellion characters though.

Actually, if Mattel kept the same set up (12 monthly figures, 4 quarterly items, 1 sub exclusive), they could very well introduce a vehicle as one of the quarterly items. The Wind Raider is now being sold at $50, and there are currently 2 skus at or above that amount in 2013.

Ewwwwww, no thanks. Mantenna, Extendar, Modulok, Sssqueeze, and Blast Attak are the only ones in that list I would want. 2014 better just complete the rest of the vintage MOTU characters if they want me to sub again. I don't want any other characters outside of those next year.

Can someone PM me the US number for Matty? I want to talk to someone who might has a clue of what is going on.

Actually, if Mattel kept the same set up (12 monthly figures, 4 quarterly items, 1 sub exclusive), they could very well introduce a vehicle as one of the quarterly items. The Wind Raider is now being sold at $50, and there are currently 2 skus at or above that amount in 2013.

Actually, if Mattel kept the same set up (12 monthly figures, 4 quarterly items, 1 sub exclusive), they could very well introduce a vehicle as one of the quarterly items. The Wind Raider is now being sold at $50, and there are currently 2 skus at or above that amount in 2013.

I would not pay the money for a vehicle in a sub....and not to mention, Scott said the Foe Men were the last 3 packs in MOTUC. Also in 2014, the way things are going a vehicle is likely to be $60....so no thanks. Anything more expensive per month than 2013, for me is a big no, and not to mention, if this was the line-up....I would easily pass. Mantenna is the only one on there I need and have to have, aside from possibly She-Ra, depending on how she looked. Plus, at the moment, no more vehicles....but I would hope they'd try a PO for each one....I would buy Attack Track and Battle Ram, but not i a sub.

I would prefer to see Dragstor, Castaspella, Rio Blast & Tung Lashor in place of any 4 of those listed except Mantenna....and I would sell the Movie pack without hesitation, even if we were still getting 3 packs after this year. But this line-up....the sub would be a pass, and I'd PO Mantenna from BBTS.

I hope the Granamyr sales figures are an indication the fans will support iconic MOTU items that are translated into toys for the first time - am really hoping we might see in future a Collector vehicle.

Even if it is offered as a pre-sale. It really would be awesome to finally have this vehicle in my collection.

"Were the delays in Procrustus and Granamyr delays due to production delay or just shipping to the US?

A little of everything. But they made it!"

So my questions is DID the additional Granamyr/PRocrustus stock ever arrive or go on sale?

The blurb on mattycollector still says "Our shipment of Procrustus™ figures has been delayed. We'll receive him in waves and will ship out orders as supplies are received. Any additional products you order at the same time will be held until Procrustus™ arrives. Please order Procrustus™ separately if you don't want your other products held."

Are they still getting more of these in eventually? I'd like to not pay the inflated eBay prices that I paid for Castle Grayskullman, Mosquitor and Rattlor, so if they're coming, I can wait.

I'm bumping this question until I get a yes, no, or am told to go pee up a tree.

I'm bumping this question until I get a yes, no, or am told to go pee up a tree.

I don't think you're understanding the situation properly - when Procrustus and Granymyr were put up on the 12/15 sale, Matty took orders for the full amount of product they knew they would eventually get, not how much they had in stock at that time. When the orders placed equaled the production run of those figures, the site listed them as sold out.

They will not be put back on sale as stock comes in. They already took the orders. They will fulfill those orders as the rest of the stock comes in.

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It's sad that no matter what the topic the Star Sisters comes up as a waste of a slot and money. I like them and would MUCH rather them than a vehicle. I have zero interest in any vehicle. I am only in it for the figures. Even some the beast's I have zero interest in. Give me more figures (not oversize like Procrustus) and I am a happy man. I would like to see some love shown to the core Great rebellion characters though.

YES! Thank you! I could not agree with this statement any more than I already do!

Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Ewwwwww, no thanks. Mantenna, Extendar, Modulok, Sssqueeze, and Blast Attak are the only ones in that list I would want. 2014 better just complete the rest of the vintage MOTU characters if they want me to sub again. I don't want any other characters outside of those next year.

Well, on the bright side, since you won't be collecting the line any more I guess there's going to be a lot less complaining about every tiny thing here in 2014.

I'm bumping this question until I get a yes, no, or am told to go pee up a tree.

I think all stock has been received by now and all orders taken were filled by said stock, the orders were still taken on the stock even though it wasn't all in....That is what was said, and meant by the "delay" statement, not that orders would only be taken on what they had, and more later....no.

That is why I friggin had to wait 2 extra weeks to get my damn Granamyr, my order was being filled by stock still In China or something when I ordered him.....first thing DOS....and I still had to wait, when others who ordered later DOS and next day were getting shipping notices....

I don't think you're understanding the situation properly - when Procrustus and Granymyr were put up on the 12/15 sale, Matty took orders for the full amount of product they knew they would eventually get, not how much they had in stock at that time. When the orders placed equaled the production run of those figures, the site listed them as sold out.

They will not be put back on sale as stock comes in. They already took the orders. They will fulfill those orders as the rest of the stock comes in.

Aha! That makes sense...I misunderstood.

Thank you for clarifying. Thankfully, I found a Procrustus for $47, shipped...now begins the search for a Granamyr that costs less than my weekly food bill!

Actually, if Mattel kept the same set up (12 monthly figures, 4 quarterly items, 1 sub exclusive), they could very well introduce a vehicle as one of the quarterly items. The Wind Raider is now being sold at $50, and there are currently 2 skus at or above that amount in 2013.

I'm not so keen on vehicles but this list isn't bad at all. If the quarterlies were NA Skeletor, Modulok and the 3 trio that'd be great and would fill most of my main wants.

Right or wrong, buying a sub tells Mattel you want more MOTUC figures. Not buying does tells them you don't. Don't let MOTUC end early because you might not like their marketing strategy! Plus polls show you won't regret subbing!

I don't want any vehicles. I want figures. So keep vehicles out of the sub please! Leave the sku's to get more figures out and keep vehicles out of the sub. I'ld also prefer quarterlies to be left out of the sub and just kept as early access. Maybe give subber's a small early access discount on the items. I think they'd sell more subs that way and it would make early access worth while.

Actually, if Mattel kept the same set up (12 monthly figures, 4 quarterly items, 1 sub exclusive), they could very well introduce a vehicle as one of the quarterly items. The Wind Raider is now being sold at $50, and there are currently 2 skus at or above that amount in 2013.

I also got the feeling from that answer that there "has been a discussion" and is more now a "when" not "if"....

And as far as large items / beasts etc...I would prefer more multi pack of figures 2 or 3 packs (not army builders) to "move the line along" ...

I agree, with 2-packs or 3-packs you could have more characters at once, you could make:
Madame Razz and Broom and maybe even add Kowl.
Sea Hawk, Swen and the little Davy Jones.
Spritina, Sprag and Sprocker, maybe even add Sprint and Spunky
Melaktha, Stanlan and Holly
Filmation Hordak and Imp
Uncle Montork, Dree Elle, Yukkers, Squonge, Snoob

You would get a lot more figures at the same time, no longer having to worry if the other figures will ever be made if some of them had only been released as single figures.

I too prefer characters over vehicles. That's not to say I don't like vehicles, the Windraider was great but a character with a personality and back story, character development etc is far more appealing than an inanimate object used to get from A to B. Just as in real life I would never prize a car over a living creature.

I worry a bit about Two-bad as I prefer his 200X look where both halves of him looked more unique from eachother. Sounds as if the classic version will just be a guy with two heads and different paint jobs each side like the 80s version

Actually, if Mattel kept the same set up (12 monthly figures, 4 quarterly items, 1 sub exclusive), they could very well introduce a vehicle as one of the quarterly items. The Wind Raider is now being sold at $50, and there are currently 2 skus at or above that amount in 2013.

OMG please can this be the sub next year? You have included my Top 3 PoP characters (SB She-Ra, Mermista, Peekablue), my most wanted vehicle, my top two MOTU (Mantenna, Gwildor) AND my preferred choice for next year's traveling exclusive. *wheeps*

Aaron
PoP Variants are part of the vintage line, too! Starburst She-Ra, Shower Power Catra, and Scratchin' Sound Catra for 2015!!!

I worry a bit about Two-bad as I prefer his 200X look where both halves of him looked more unique from eachother. Sounds as if the classic version will just be a guy with two heads and different paint jobs each side like the 80s version

Actually, the vintage figure had different boots and gloves on each side, and the purple side had scales and ridges on his limbs. Both sides were completely different.
The only big discernable difference the 200X version added was a split loincloth, which in my opinion looked ghastly mainly due to the horrible shade of green they used on one half. I will be more than happy if it is based on the vintage.
Check out the differences: http://he-man.wikia.com/wiki/Two_Bad

But I'm getting tired of their constant insistence in calling the Wind Raider a failure. Why didn't they just include it as a quarterly oversized in the subscription like other similarly priced items? Why beasts and hyper-obscure figure packs can be within the subscription but A-list, first-wave-vintage vehicles apparently cannot? That way they would have sold their required quota of WRs without all this drama, we'd be seeing more vehicles coming (including the essential must-have Battle Ram), and I bet many subscribers would have been much more pleased with getting a Wind Raider (you really gotta have it in hand to realize how mindblowingly awesome it actually is) than, say, the controversial Star Sisters and FFM.

I still firmly believe they should have released the Sky Sled as the first vehicle. Smaller price point AND they could have changed out the head for the Evil Warriors once the Filmation rights were secured. Think of how many individual sleds could have been sold due to the smaller pricing. The back end of the Battle Ram could have been added later... the majority of fans would have opted for it to "complete" the vintage vehicle.

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Originally Posted by MegaGearMax

People would have complained that they were taking up 3 normal monthly slots, instead of a quarterly slot.

I agree with that.

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Ewwwwww, no thanks. Mantenna, Extendar, Modulok, Sssqueeze, and Blast Attak are the only ones in that list I would want. 2014 better just complete the rest of the vintage MOTU characters if they want me to sub again. I don't want any other characters outside of those next year.

That, I think, is ultimately the flaw with the "all-in" subscription system. The fans who care only about vintage re-releases directly "combat" the fans who support other factions and new characters. (I realize "combat" is not the most optimal word choice, but it is the easiest to understand given the context.) The reality, because of the "all-in" system, is that both sides of the fan base need each other for things to survive over the next couple years... and that means everyone is not going to be able to get 100% of what they want. Everyone's personal preferences and pocketbooks are going to have to compromise, to some extent.