I just got off of paternity leave actually—I had a baby about nine weeks ago. I took two and a half months off and yesterday was actually my first day back in the office, so I’m trying to think of what the next several months will look like. I don’t think I’m doing too much traveling. I have a press tour in Europe and a press tour in Asia in the spring, but that’s just all the typical places I go to—you know, Paris, Berlin, London, etc. But in terms of exotic places or places we go from a giving perspective, I’ll probably go back to Haiti. I think India is also an area now that we’re doing more production and more giving. I’ve been to India on my honeymoon but I haven’t been for work, so I think that’s probably my next stop.

That’s a pretty ambitious honeymoon.

Yeah, we went to a really cool wellness center on top of the Himalaya Mountains, and it was gorgeous and incredible. It was quite an adventurous honeymoon.

Is that how you typically travel? If it were just you and your family going on a two-week vacation, would you be more of an adventurer?

We don’t do really well at sitting on the beach with a piña colada. That’s not really our style. Usually our trips are around surfing, fly-fishing, or snowboarding—those are the things we love to do, so we take a lot of trips doing that. If we have some time off, we’ll go to Colorado or Jackson Hole or something like that for skiing or snowboarding. Or Hawaii, or I went to the Maldives last year for a surf trip, which was incredible. Our vacations are much more active than sitting around.

I have this old canvas and leather duffel that I’ve had for a long time. I don’t even know who makes it. It’s pretty generic but it’s a perfect size. It’s enough to have a weekend’s worth of clothes and it’s also not so big that I’m lugging it on my shoulder at the airport the whole time.

How long do you think you’ve had it?

Oh gosh. Twenty years?

Do you listen to music on the plane? Would you have a certain playlist going?

Not necessarily. I think it just depends on the mood I’m in. A lot of times I’ll just put on a jazz playlist on a plane ride if I’m kind of mellowing out, or even some classical or Enya. Usually it’s much more calming, just music like that where I can zone out. Plane rides are things that I love because it’s the one time where no one’s asking me anything. And I don’t do a lot of email on the plane either; I know there are some people who love their wireless. For me, actually, I don’t even turn the wireless on because I like the fact that I can get those hours, especially on, like, a nice long flight to New York. It’s really just to chill out.

Just to have that one moment where no one can reach you.

Yes, it’s really sacred.

You’ve gone to a lot of places that might be considered third world, might be more difficult to explore. Do you have any suggestions on how to be a good traveler when you first arrive? Any tips you would offer?

I think the main difference and the key is that when you’re traveling, your agenda isn’t so planned out. You’re kind of going with the flow and you’re open to meeting people, whether they’re locals or other travelers, and changing where you were going to stay that night, or where you were going to lunch, or how your day was going to unfold. I think that’s really the best way to experience a country and a culture. Maybe you have a couple things that you’d like to see and do, so maybe you’re like, “Okay, I really want to go to the Citadelle. I want to discover a couple of untouched, uninhabited beaches of Haiti. But between those two things on my trip, I’m just going to let it unfold as it does.” I think not having that rigidness that sometimes a tourist has, where they’re going and knocking things off their list or every single day is perfectly outlined, I think that makes a big difference.

I highly, highly encourage people to take that approach, where they have maybe two anchor points a week, or three anchor points depending on what they want to do. And maybe those are the places where they’re going to stay, so they know at least where they’re going to stay if that gives them a certain level of comfort. But just not planning out too much and really being open to letting the people you meet dictate how your day and your week unfold. It takes a certain amount of faith, but it’s always served me well.