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Why The main benefits are the fostering of a greater understanding of the world before we die and hopefully, to prompt further thought and discussion from our listeners.

The topic we will be discussing in this episode is Creationism

Topic Overview

Creationism is the belief that life, the universe and everything, began when God said ‘go!’. He apparently did this mere thousands of years ago and we have record of this in the first book of the Old Testament. ‘What kind of chump would believe something simply because a book says it is so?’ Well according to high profile ‘creationists’ such as Ken Ham and many others, there is actually a huge body of scientific evidence that confirms the truth of the book of Genesis. If you dig deep into the ground you will find ‘billions of dead things buried in rock layers laid down by water all over the earth’. You would have to have a lot of faith in the Gods of secularism, immorality and cannibalism to believe such a fact isn’t solid proof of Noah’s Flood. And a talking snake.

Off-topic

What we’re not talking about

potable motor oil

Talking Points

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Definition

Basically this: ‘In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.’ - Genesis 1:1

Teach the controversy

What’s the deal here?

People want to believe this crap. They don’t want to hear that Ken Ham is lying to them. They just won’t go there.

Religious people don’t want to believe we’re ‘just material’ and that there is no God, souls, supernatural justice, eternal life etc.

I wish to present the case that ordinary people who claim they believe this stuff could very well believe this stuff for reals; it’s the people who make a career out of it that are sinister and nefarious because they are lying. They are liars. They lie and lie and lie to bilk the savings from people who hold sincere but ridiculous beliefs.

I mean for Christ’s sake:

Proverbs 19:9 says:

A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will perish.

Proverbs 12:22 ES

Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but those who act faithfully are his delight.

Psalm 101:7

No one who practices deceit shall dwell in my house; no one who utters lies shall continue before my eyes.

Colossians 3:9-10

Do not lie to one another, seeing that you have put off the old self with its practices and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge after the image of its creator.

These people are demonstrably lying. Which shows that they:

don’t actually care about the bible

are liars.

Arguments

All terrible arguments that have been refuted time and time again and the fact that they keep using the same arguments demonstrates their dishonesty.

Look around you

Adaptivity

Why are there still monkeys?

There’s a conspiracy of scientists

An argument refuted is still an argument

It’s too complex, irreducibly complex

Inheritance, mutation, children aren’t clones

Structures found in nature are too complex to have evolved step-by-step through natural selection

Where does the new information come from? Mutation is always detrimental

Not always and they are random. Somatic versus germ line mutation.

2nd Law, increasing entropy yet, evolutionary improvement

Big Bang

No evidence for Evolution

particles-to-people evolution or ‘molecules to man’ as Ken Ham says.

No transitional species

It’s in the Bible

Darwinism leads to eugenics

Microevolution from ‘Kinds’ of animals

Australopithecus fossils are those of deformed humans

Earth isn’t that old

Radiocarbon dating works on organic matter up to 50,000 years old. N14 converted into C14 by living organisms, stops on death.

Special Pleading Claiming exemption from a generally accepted rule without justification

Other faiths

Islam ‘Allah created the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them, in six days’ - Quran 7:54

Flavours of Creationism

Young Earth

Age of earth about 9,000 years calculated from the bible. Trim the ludicrous ages of some of the characters and it’s much younger.

Genesis 5:3‘When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth. After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters. Altogether, Adam lived a total of 930 years, and then he died.’