i am not so sure i said much diffrent from any of the rest of you but perhapps my way of putting it dowen might be diffrent or my examples are diffrent but mostly I said the same as most and thats simply material gain and goodness or rightchness ise't always so clear cut. ........but i am also good with you thinking it was diffrent at its core but i aint not so sure it is diffrent.

Meridith how do you reachone the karma balance is regulated if considerring reincarnasion? goood deads get rewarded with a better life in the next life. dose it ever go the opposite way.......a real hard life is the rewared for the previouse life success at overcomming adversity? how dose it address poverty striken cultures and is thir ever a risk that us in our developed wealth get arrogant over the less developed cultures? Dose it all pice together?

i not so sure i care about anyone getting thir punishment for whickied they have done, i not suure punishment stops the behaviour. maybee some love compasion and guidance teaches a corrective way to do something but the cold hard bitter sting of adversity is hard to imagine bringing about a more loving life rather than storeing up bitterness and bile.

jabber, id really rather have the folks that do whicked things in life be stoppped and corrected through love than punishment, i just think it works better, well it dose so with kids and adults we'r just a bitmore sofisticated kids lol.

mustange if your starting this chat in response to somthhing happening in life right now that your witnessing whickedness and prosperity and it shaking your faith then i am sorry. I know you know what its like to see the "good" church going ladies that gossipe and backbite and prosper and i rember that being a tough thing to witness.

i know i am just repeating myself but i don't think god bothers with that stuff as he/she be more intrested in whats going on inside us in relasion to our lifes no matter to how hard or easie it is.

I just hope your not soar over it as thats when it starts effecting our owen spirituality. Keep strong regardless of whatts going on in life, and i hope you don't get pulled over to any side becouse of it. just be true to yourself and you'll be doing well.

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"Our attitude either gets in the way or creates a way," Sam Glenn

This has been an interesting conversation and I love everyone's honesty -- thank you for that.

Yes, Celtic, my faith -- what little I have left, I'm ashamed to say -- has been shaken. I've seen people with the most evilist of intentions inflict pain upon others for their simple pleasure. People who hide behind the law, their degrees, the Church, government, those in positoins of authority, neighbors, etc., who have purposefully inflicted pain upon me and others with malice.

"i not so sure i care about anyone getting thir punishment for whickied they have done, "

I agree in fact I believe that its not in my hands or thoughts to punish wittingly another human being.My aim and mindset is to analyse why someone acts disrespecfully for my own peace of mind and growth.To aim for the ability to rise above and go peacefully about my life.Never to feed the fire of someone elses discontent or anger.Leaving them in time to work out an answer to their hostility.I just dont give my energy to unkind acts.I respect I have never been homeless or hungry so maybe have never been tested.

Guess that was my interpretation. Humans are complicated folks.And we all see everything so differently. When you said it wasn't in your hands, I assumed you meant it was in the handsof a higher power. Sorry for misunderstanding. And I still don't think anyone has the right to ruin another's life and get offscotfree. This point of view is speaking from experience, not abstract expressionism.

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Throw me to the wolves and I'll come back leading the pack.Grace O'Malley

I think hoping and praying for someone to 'get theirs' is the same is taking revenge on someone. A philosopher once said that before you set out on a journey of revenge, dig two graves. People who focus on someone else's bad behavior and worry about whether they will be punished are only hurting themselves, in my opinion. I prefer to ignore people who behave badly. I can't control what they do; I can only control how I react. I prefer to focus on what I CAN do, not on what I can't control.

I also agree that it's wrong for anyone to ruin someone else. But when that happened to me, there was nothing I could do except continue to live my life and prove them wrong. It took several years, but I came out better than before when the person was spreading lies about me. There were times when I was angry, but I never once thought about revenge because I know what that can do to a person.

I'm letting THE MAN upstairs even the score, ladies. I'm not focusing on it in length, because my friend is in her grave; I'd rather be on this side of the equation than the other. The title of this thread has been a question asked down through the ages.And it's worth stepping back and having a look. You can't justshrug every distasteful situation off, like it isn't there. I don't see anything wrong in airing one's feelings, now and again. What say you?

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Throw me to the wolves and I'll come back leading the pack.Grace O'Malley

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