Sarah Palin Can Be Damaging to Your Mental Health.

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Does anyone have a sock? A cork? A bar of soap, even? Because Sarah Palin will simply not. stop. talking. And I, for one, am willing to try anything that works. For some reason, her siren song of folksiness, labyrinthine sentence structure and downright refusal to be silenced have come together to generate some kind of perfect media storm.

The seamless ease with which Palin bounces back and forth between seemingly opposite and incompatible statements is mesmerizing….or just plain mind-numbing depending on your perspective. It’s the classic example of what’s known in psychology as the “double bind.”

Examples of a psychological double-bind are the mother who says “I love you”, while simultaneously recoiling from a hug in digust, or the father who says “I’m so proud of you, you didn’t screw up again!” The victims of a double bind get two simultaneous and conflicting messages. The feeling we get when we witness, or are victims of a double-bind is visceral. Our senses are telling us two different things. Our mind is in disharmony. Both our gut and our brain tell us there is something very very wrong.

I present for you a case study – Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, ex-VP candidate and double binder extraordinaire. See if you can pick it out of the following clip. It’s right in the beginning. If you want to keep listening you’ll be treated to a huge non-answer about the bailout of the auto industry, and a big “shout out” to George W. Bush.

It would be my honor to assist and support our new president and the new administration, yes. And I speak for other Republicans, other Republican governors also. They being willing, also, to, again, seize this opportunity that we have to progress this nation together, a united front.

[snip]

Well, I still am concerned about that association with Bill Ayers. And if anybody still wants to talk about it, I will, because this is an unrepentant domestic terrorist who had campaigned to blow up, to destroy our Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol. That’s an association that still bothers me, and I think it’s still fair to talk about it. [snip] I do not think it’s off-base nor mean spirited nor negative campaigning…

It would be my honor to assist and support a terrorist sympathizer. And I speak for other Republicans when I say that.

So what happens to those who are continuously subjected to the double bind? If it’s coming from parents, or someone in a position of power, or someone from whom you cannot get away, the results can be damaging, especially for children. Fortunately for most of the country, Sarah Palin is not someone who wields power, and she is not their parent or our spouse, and they can get away from her with a click of the remote. So my advice from Alaska to the rest of the country is, grab your children and run. Or just push mute.

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Stuck(17:50:54) :

Eek. Does anyone think she’s actually aware of her contradictions?

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CatStaff(17:51:10) :

In addition to the word salad/grating voice combo (which, incidentally, makes me want to pull my ears off my head and stomp on them), I’m also full up to the Plimsoll mark with that whole terrorist fist jab she does all the time.

Look, I love you guys in Alaska, but it’s time for you all to man up and take her back; specifically, take her somewhere without electricity so that these interviews can now cease.

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Trowel Ogre Palin(17:55:26) :

She drives me absolutely crazy, the way she does that! Why doesn’t it bother all those conservatives? They want their children home schooled so they are smarter than public school students, and here is a heck of a role model for them! Great oratory skills.

I sure hope Begich wins! That will solve a lot of problems. I noticed the wind coming out of her sails after the Governor’s conference. She isn’t quite the star she thought she was!!

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Carol(17:58:24) :

Sarah’s trying to break down that door right now… May her ego do her in sooner than later.

Well darn. the video is gone already. But I’m sure I would have suffered a mental breakdown had I actually listened to it.

Hmmm. Still works for me. *shrug* AKM

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loreenwl(18:07:24) :

50,000 words to say what? Can’t we shut her up somehow? Duct tape her hands together while we’re at it? She drives me absolutely insane.

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topcat(18:11:16) :

Bravo on this article. You’ve nailed Palin (no pun intended).
She reminds me of that old SNL skit “the thing that won’t go away.”
I am so sick of not only her, but those tired old talking points…”energy producing state, he pals with terrorists, blah blah blah…”
It finally dawned on me as you say…”just click her off, she is incapable of saying something that is not scripted for her”…
The remote control’s off switch is a powerful tool, thanks for reminding me of that and keep up the great work.

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loreenwl(18:11:58) :

She wants to cast aspersions at those folks who can only afford a $100,000 house and get talked into a $300,000 house. Like herself, perhaps? Oh, no. I forget. Her friends built it in their spare time. Free.

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amy(18:12:11) :

” Our mind is in disharmony. Both our gut and our brain tell us there is something very very wrong.”

Perfect. This describes exactly what I feel when I hear her speak!
Thank you once again AKM!

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Lacy Lady(18:12:13) :

I don’t think Obama will be calling on her in the near future. Yikes!!!!!
Please —dear Alaskans——get her off the page.
This double talk is driving me crazy. Surely to God, the media will drop this woman after today. Hopefully—never to see or hear from her again. Where is the witch doctor when you need him?????

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Joe the sound recording engineer(18:16:49) :

That’s not the only double bind statement — listen closely to her talk about energy independence and drilling😉

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copybook realist(18:18:58) :

OMG is it still Halloween?

Palin is definitely driving me over the edge…I think that it is like a Greek tragedy/comedy….I need catharsis dammit. One way or another it has to end!

and no deus ex machina…that doesn’t count.

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lock pepper in honolulu(18:20:54) :

Has anybody seen this? I had tears streaming! Apologize if it’s been posted before but it has Scarah speaking in rhythm with the Talking Heads–my favorites!

Hope you enjoy!

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Uncle Joe Mccarthy(18:21:23) :

question to all alaskans

you really have to explain how you elected this woman

at first, i thought the whole thing was an act….then i heard her interview after the birth of trig….and she has always spoken like this…putting there and also and again….where they dont belong….speaking in a circular fashion where one has absolutely no clue where she is going.

btw, someone needs to tell her that as the economy is collapsing, also, there, and again…so too is the price of a barrell of oil….and i dont thing, again, also…that the oil companies are gonna spend millions in drilling new wells, just so, also, they will be less profitable

God, i figured it out. She’s a robot from the future and they filled her memory with set things.. A freakish radiation storm caused her to shortcircuit and now all she can do is repeat the words in her database, which are now all jumbled and incoherant. Her hair stores the powersupply and main processor. How could we not catch this?

Also, where did “Thank you, I appreciate you” become an appropriate exit salutation?

Barbie is waiting on database upgrade v 2.1 to be delivered from the planet Groytch. All men there have combovers and the easiest way to find one of them is to watch as they look at the chest of human females at innappropriate times.

Example of a typical Groytchite:

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Chaim(18:22:13) :

I was also unable to access the video, told it is “no longer available.’ Just as well.

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Uncle Joe Mccarthy(18:23:43) :

and grats on winning best political blog

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Maggie AKA Molten Contra Hussein Palin(18:25:06) :

Okay, I’ve had it.

I’m going into a 12-step recovery program, and I need to bid good-bye to Mudflats during my treatment. I have to get Sarah Palin out of my mind, out of my life and off my computer screen. I have gained 5 pounds since Palin’s selection was announced in August. I was blissfully unaware of her existence until that day in August. She caused me anxious, sleepless nights; she made me irritable with my family members; she strained my relationship with my mom, who is a Palin supporter (ugh!); she caused me to be addicted to my laptop, looking for news updates during her horrifying campaign. I don’t think I’ll ever feel confident again about the likelihood that our democracy will survive in the long term. After all, if someone as dumb as Sarah could come THAT close to being elected the VP, it’s inevitable that it will happen again.

I am still freaked out that someone so corrupt/manipulative/dishonest/uninformed could be elected the governor of a state. Not only that, but she’s in office after all the dirt about her has been made public. She’ll continue to charge her per diem account, and will traipse around with her kids at state expense as much as she pleases. Unbelievable!

How tragic for our nation that Sarah came packaged in such an attractive body and with a pretty face . If she was a pudgy balding version of herself, she would not have gotten elected as governor, would she?

I have only been a quiet lurker here, but I’ll still miss all of you. Thanks, AKM, for all your fine work! Best wishes to all of you. — Maggie.

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LibertyLover(18:26:22) :

OK. I could only make it to 4 minutes. Can’t take anymore. And I really thought that George W. Bush was the only person that made me physically ill to listen to. She’s the only person that can talk for minutes on end and not say a dang thing.
Take. Her. Back. Alaska.

I here tell that she’s finally going to be on Larry King Live. A few weeks late, ain’t ya Governor?

Whew! If you listen long enough, you realize you could interchange her side of the conversation with any of her previous interviews — Gibson, Couric, Lauer — and you’d never notice the difference.

On the other hand, I have truly appreciated her part in the campaign for not only — gosh, I hate to admit it — sinking McCain’s ship, but also for the wonderful comic relief.

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Irish in FL(18:27:31) :

It started to play for me, but there’s no way I’m going to listen to 9+ minutes of rediculousness so I muted it as soon as it started….she is absolutely insane……and the worst part is, because she has npd, she actuallly, really, truly believes she’s making sense!!!!
One Scary Lady!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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the problem child (a jerk, also)(18:27:49) :

I want to, I want to, I really do, want to go onto the forum to post my response. But my password seems no longer to work. It worked yesterday when I posted a recipe. What happened? Help!

Anyway, perhaps SWWNBN thought that the swaying palms and such behind her would hypnotize the viewers so that they would ignore her word salad with a tropical twist.

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lock pepper in honolulu(18:28:18) :

Maggie–best wishes to you if you are um…serious–
can’t tell?
If you are going into rehab, my heart and prayers to you! If not, well, I can’t say it on national television…not funny!

babababuhbuhbuhbaba…run run run run AWAYYYYY Yeah, yeah!

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Cynamen Winter(18:29:36) :

Yeah…I’m through with Sistah Say-rah, and hoping for change to “also” permeate Alaska, for you all truly deserve better.

On a much brighter note, here’s a video holiday greetings from the Obamas.

I am limiting myself to 2 hours on wekends and 1 hour on week days…and now I am off on my nightly walk. it is a twelve step program.

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Chief Shikago(18:30:18) :

Hau,
She is a freaken freak, I can not and will not let that shreiking ugly voice into my mind anymore, she’s bloody alien, as in extraterrestrial, a Brain Snatcher. I let her voice in, peace of mind and love get sucked out of my head. I refuse to listen to her, so thanks AKM for posting a little of her rant. Reading her words is better for my health.

Wow. You’ve hit the nail on the head with this analysis, AKM. Another great post! And I’m with you in getting any kids within influence-range out of Dodge. Yikes.

@Maggie–I so hear you about the need for a 12-step program, and I’ve tried to go cold turkey, but somehow I keep finding my way back here🙂

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pj(18:33:36) :

poor Wasilla…Dick Cavett names miss sarah the “Wild Wordsmith of Wasilla” and I think Dick agrees with AKM and the rest of us…she needs to shut the pipeline-valve! Her mouth runneth over and she sickens the environment (humanity).

There was a B movie in the late 80’s called Cherry 2000. Melanie Griffith was in it. That’s the robot that Sarah Palin reminds me of…

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Gizmo(18:34:37) :

To All You People at Mudflap,

As you are for sure aware, as Governor of Wasilla I have multiple responsibilities in the time being, and because I can see Russia from my house there is a perception that somehow you bloggin’ people in pajamas have wisdom a-plenty. And don’t ever forget it. The world is a complex place, with many moving parts that can easily be confused with the weak dollar and at the same time we have to keep an eye on those rebels in Darfur, heaven knows what they’re doin’.

Of course, up here in Alaska we have a lot of respect for the hunter, but that doesn’t change my thinking one bit, because I still believe that Ted Stevens deserves to represent the people of the United States of America and as a devout Christian I am willing to overlook his sins and move on to a space-based missle defense. Sometimes you just have to accept the fact that you can’t stomp a snake with both feet in the bucket.

And let’s be frank about the money that I spent on a nice wardrobe during the Presidental campaign. Most real Americans that I know like to see a woman lookin’ good, and it sure helps when you’re tryin’ to make a deal with Kazakstan or somebody. As Vice-President I would be responsbile for travellin’ to countries like Africa and talkin’ to those people over there about mad cow disease and other international situations which have a bearing on peace, especially since you liberals have confused the picture with your supposed facts. Remember, you’ve got to groom the turkey before you milk the goat. Bear that in mind, OK?

Besides the Ayers issue, when asked point blank about whether or not the Government should bail out the auto industry she started the double-bind again, which means: I can’t form an opinion because I don’t care enough to educate myself about the issue but if you want to talk about the old news and completely baseless Ayers issue, I’m all over it!

There’s a petition online that you can sign to ask her to shut up already.

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Nisperos(18:37:15) :

That head shaking back and forth seems negating of everything too…

The incongruency is quite disconcerting.

However, think about this: ever seen someone with a learning disability move their head back and forth when they read?

Also, what about what people do in EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing) Therapy (c.f. : http://www.emdr.com/ )

Back in the the 1970’s, there were also the Bandler and Grinder Books which I believe started with one called The Structure of Magic

So, who’s the Svengali behind this Trilby?

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Chaim(18:38:52) :

Sorry, now it works. Glad to hear she will cooperate with the new terrorist administration as a governor with expertise in tapping America’s great underground reserves of BS.

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SMG - MN(18:38:52) :

If anyone wants to brave the actual full video, listen carefully to her answer about a second stimulous package (around the 6:30 mark). She answers that “taxpayers” shouldn’t be called upon again…. she thinks that a stimulous package is all part of the bailout. She has no clue.

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Windy City, aka Alien Ears(18:39:26) :

My observation has been that she creates how own version of reality and then lives in it. I suppose in a way we all do that except that hers has nothing to do with reality. If only she were not so good at convincing other people that her reality makes sense.

McCain did not do a good thing for our country by foisting her on us. Not those who hate, are angry and defy logic such a strong figure to rally about and give them a voice. My concern is that she will learn more tricks over time and be able to present herself more acceptably to more people.

Oy.

My mother used to tell the joke about the child who is shown a room with manure in it who responds, “I know there must be a pony in here somewhere!” The old silver lining story. So where is that pony.

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SoCal Bob(18:40:29) :

Tonight Fox news had a piece on Palin and pointed out that most Democratic women didn’t like her. They opined that that dislike was based on the fact that Palin had a “active” sex life and that the Democratic women were – uh – jealous.

Speaking from a guys point of view, I’d bet dollars to donuts Palin couldn’t keep her yap shut long enough to youknowwhat….and guys hate women talking when they youknowwhat. I’ve already determined that Todd is mute but now I’m convenced he’s apparently deaf too. 🙂

2 minutes in to it and I don’t know if I can continue. Blitzer just quoted her to her, she’s getting ready to waffle. Our very own train wreck, how many more years is she governor?

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Denise MadLibFromMSgaAZca(18:44:06) :

Anybody, can you connect me with the background for Palin’s eldest son to join the military? Perhaps a link, too.

I recalled that it MIGHT have had something to do with avoiding jail time for damaging a school bus. There’s a Palin supporter I know who is incensed with that suggestion. Thanks bunches.

The rumor circulated, but nothing can ever be substantiated because at the time of the supposed incident, Track was under 18 and juvenile records are sealed. AKM

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WakeUpAmerica(18:44:32) :

It is interesting to watch her body language as she talks. While she is making affirmative statements about Obama and helping him, she keeps moving her head left to right as though she is saying “no.” Her body is denying the words that are coming out of her mouth. Very telling!!

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Anonymous(18:44:53) :

lock pepper in honolulu (18:20:54) :
Thank you for that video – I’ve shared it with the forum folk.
and all others who are perhaps unaware. I love the Talking Heads!
We’re trying to move all “chat” ie stuff that is not perfectly in response to the post into the forum. There have been accessability and blanking-out-for-a-while-issues with the blog. The recommended solution from Sephy and other techy people has been that we move into the forum to discuss “stuff” because wordpress can’t actually handle all our posts. The price of success😉. I know this is tough for the un-forumed, but once you register, it is really easy to keep up with the rest. Try clicking on

At least George Orwell’s “doublespeak” had logical word organization and structure.

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Carolina Girl(18:48:58) :

Here is something that might scare everyone…I know so many people, women in particular, that believe she is fabulous. I am not one of them. It puts me at odds with so many of my friends and MY MOTHER! They seem to believe the nonsense she spews. I am losing my mind here in SC. Many of these women are well educated too! I am so thankful to read this blog and know that I am not really losing my mind.

She’s been on the national stage a while now, and why is it that the reporters who interview her don’t call her out on her nonsensical answers? Wouldn’t it seem obvious (wolfie did it sorta on the car bailout but then let her off the hook) to ask her.. “Sarah, you just spoke for 3 minutes and didn’t say anything. Can you simply answer my question in 10 words or less?, Lets try this.. barbie, can you name your children in under 10 words? You only have 4 or 5, so this should be easy”…

Dr. Evil: you just don’t get it, do ya?

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slickSarahbarra(18:49:35) :

She need more information………..
She wants to “shout out to Bush”…….

She takes no fault….
She wants to talk……

THAT BILL AYERS……
THE UNREPENTANT…….

LOOK AT ME…….
I SMILE WITH GLEE…..

AND I SPEAK FOR OTHER REPUBLICANS…….
OTHER REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS ALSO……

A UNITED FRONT…..
WHAT SHOULD I WEAR……

WHO IS GOING TO DO MY HAIR….
I NEED NEW CLOTHS……

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Claire(18:50:49) :

Am I the only one who’s sick to death of “to progress” our nation and everything else? While progress can be used as a verb, SP uses it constantly. Grate, grate, grate!

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Denise sansMSgaAZca(18:51:59) :

Okay. I may take the mother in law’s name, Marian Robinson, cause she is quietly foundational and I am admiring her and the relationship she maintains with all the family. . . maybe PrezMIL.

Noticeably lacking the F in a similar abbreviation.

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CO Almost Native(18:52:29) :

Chief Shikago (18:30:18) :

Come on…you are my translator of Palinese; what is she really saying?

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futurexpat?(18:52:33) :

Listening to her is like listening to GW Bush. I quit listening to him quite a while ago. I sometimes watch him with the sound off to watch the gyrations of his mouth and jaw. It seems to have become worse lately. I have to watch Sarah the same way, with the sound off. I’ll be very glad when she goes away (I hope she does).

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the problem child (a jerk, also)(18:52:53) :

Anonymous (18:44:53) :

lock pepper in honolulu (18:20:54) :
Thank you for that video – I’ve shared it with the forum folk.
and all others who are perhaps unaware. I love the Talking Heads!
We’re trying to move all “chat” ie stuff that is not perfectly in response to the post into the forum. There have been accessability and blanking-out-for-a-while-issues with the blog. The recommended solution from Sephy and other techy people has been that we move into the forum to discuss “stuff” because wordpress can’t actually handle all our posts. The price of success😉. I know this is tough for the un-forumed, but once you register, it is really easy to keep up with the rest. Try clicking on

Get yourself signed up and rejoin all the fun!
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Yeah, that was me, not anonymous. Seriously, try heading over to the forum to find all your old pals.

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Denise sansMSgaAZca(18:53:39) :

Carolina Girl (18:48:58) :

I live with one. It is scary. Facts do not seem to matter.

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Diane(18:55:17) :

How is her pregnant daughter doing?
One would think that her family would take top priority now that her team lost the election.
How can the republican religious right have the grounds to criticize liberals about their moral stand on family issues? This governor has a pregnant, unwed teenage daughter, a special needs baby less then a year old and 2 other children at home a F/T job as governor of a state and is never home?

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Denise sansMSgaAZca(18:56:05) :

futurexpat? (18:52:33) :

Listening to her is like listening to GW Bush.
++++++++++++

Yep. Daily Show dubbed her SheBush. And I have thought the same thing. Really afraid of that arrogant ambition without the intellectual depth, but a kind of appeal to the people who don’t need for the facts to support her.

How come John and Cindy didn’t take Sarah with them at the end of the election? I mean if they like and respect her so much and think she’s so wonderful, why did they just dump her on us and take off eh?

That in itself is a bit sus to me😛

“Some people are like slinkies. Not really good for anything but they do put a smile on one’s face at the thought of pushing them downthe stairs…”

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Irish in FL(18:59:48) :

a slinky…I like that….she’s Sarah Slinky from now on in my mind, and, course, you know where she’s headed…………………..dooooowwwwwwn

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wes_ben(19:00:37) :

God, she makes me NUTS. How can ANYONE take her seriously?!

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CO Almost Native(19:00:49) :

I think I know why Palin speaks that way: she says something for everyone! You like Obama- she wants to work with him; you distrust Obama-she mentions Ayers. She shares no opinions of her own, because she wants to appeal to everyone: the Freepers, the AIP, the fiscal Dems- if you don’t listen to everything she says, you latch onto what appeals to you.

Of course, listening carefully to everything she says will put you in a padded cell…

(got dumped the first time trying to post this so I forgot who it was looking for it -)

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Gizmo(19:03:58) :

There is something out there called The Big Stupid. My guess is that it was hatched sometime just after WWII, and is the consequence of six decades of bad television, inadequate nutrition, corporate manipulation of our sensibilities, too many pharmaceuticals, and god knows what else. The net effect is a society that lost its moorings, and is psychogically, emotionally, and physically sick in a way that makes us vulnerable to all manner of nonsense, of which Sarah Palin is the latest manifestation. To think that she got anywhere near the White House and control of 5,500 nuclear warheads is either horrifying or hilarious, depending on your slant.

I’ve tried twice (unsuccessfully) to post the actual link- so do this:
Go to the blog called “the Immoranl Minority” and scroll down to the title “Best Sarah Palin Timeline Ever…” and click on the title.

It has everything and the guy colour-coded it according to the type of event.

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mimi(19:08:42) :

I just have to ignore her at this point. She will just disappear into oblivion at some point. So far she has been a great distraction from the mess that the republicans have created and keeps our energy tied up from holding them accountable.

She failed to save John McCain from presidential election doom, but Sarah Palin, the Republican senator’s controversial running mate, may yet emerge as the saviour of the American publishing industry. Literary agents are queueing up to sign her to a book deal that could earn her up to $7m.

Alaska… for $7 million you can count on her to keep it up… you betcha’

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Chief Shikago(19:20:16) :

CO Almost Native (18:52:29) :

Chief Shikago (18:30:18) :

Come on…you are my translator of Palinese; what is she really saying?
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Just finished… Translates to:
I wanna be president-
If it would be a good deal for me (first)
If it would be a good deal for my family (second)
If there would be something in it for Alaskans (second to last)
and I don’t really care if it would benefit America, it’s not about America, it’s about me.

(Easier than watching the video – try analysing JUST the non-verbals on the video while leaving the sound on mute)

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HamletsMill(19:31:13) :

Mudpuppies,

Relax. after 01/20/09 when a real adult and a staff of real adults take over to address vital problems we are facing, she will start to fade into total oblivion. Do not worry. Send her roses. She insured the total defeat of the Republican Party in this vital election for the survival of the United States. If she continues to be involved in national politics in ANY way whatsoever, she will insure the total and complete utter mind numbing destruction of the Republican Party. just hold on a little longer to January 20th, 2009. Hold on. She will fade. All this publicity is actually insurance on her ever returning. every time she opens here mouth it is a nail in her coffin. Let her talk. Just turn off the sound and watch her body language. She is an idiot. Yes. It was a total indignity against the nation that we had to endure this. But having to experience her muddled brain and unbearable voice was the price we had to pay for victory. She delivered total defeat for the Republican Party. She came through brilliantly to do her part. A total train wreck for a human being.

So relax.

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Chief Shikago(19:32:52) :

Yes Marty, that was the part about how happy it makes her to crush wolf pup sculls.

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CRFlats(19:33:38) :

So the time has come to shake her off…and I do mean US! Even the TV “perfect storm” blizzard of words from her this last week has not generated other media coverage. She is already yesterdays news, and it is up to us to LET ‘ER GO! If you go to Google news or Yahoo news, it is only the Huff post and lib blogs that continue to cover THAT woman. Let it die, please. No doubt she Googles her name daily….let’s made the day happen when only old news surfaces.

She Who Must Not Be Named Nor Spoken Of Ever Again.

Whew! And since I live in my home state of Alaska, it’s going to be a little more difficult, but I’m glad we won’t be airing our dirty little secret with the world anymore.

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(19:35:30) :

There once was an Alaskan governor named Sarah
Who was born with the looks of a sex bomb like Farrah
She thought she was chosen to lead by God
‘Though she could but wink and nod
And now, she’s giving me endless night-marahs!

I don’t listen to Palin. Ever. I haven’t since I first heard her speak. I will listen to clips, but mostly, I only read her mumbo-jumbo. I started the policy when W. was elected, and I see no reason to treat Palin any differently.

She was asked why she was giving interviews now, and she said, “The election is over.” Um, Sarah? You DO realize that MOST people running for office give interviews DURING the campaign, right?

I was telling my husband today that Palin reminds of a comedian that used to appear on Johnny Carson show . He used to talk and use a flurry of words and phrases that made no sense. Unfortunately we could not remember his name.

AZtopcat (19:36:10)
I was telling my husband today that Palin reminds of a comedian that used to appear on Johnny Carson show . He used to talk and use a flurry of words and phrases that made no sense. Unfortunately we could not remember his name.
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Brother Sebastian? The drunk guy? He was hysterical. Red Skelton also did a character who couldn’t string two words together without making a mess.

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(19:45:44) :

CO Almost Native, yeah, well, what does she care about Alaska? Now that Palin has had a taste of the national glitz and glamour, she’s not going back.

copybook realist, good to see you!

Has anyone seen ocliberalpost? I hope she’s ok (CA fires). I’m heading over to the forum.

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(19:47:23) :

CO (Almost Native), I figure I might as well use my talents to poke fun at her.

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the problem child (a jerk, also)(19:48:23) :

asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (19:45:44)Has anyone seen ocliberalpost? I hope she’s ok (CA fires). I’m heading over to the forum.
She’s good and well and at home again.

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Jim, aka Pit Bull Hockey Puck(19:50:17) :

AZtopcat (19:36:10) :

You might be thinking of Bob Eucker, or perhaps Carson’s own character, Floyd R. Turbo. Google will bring up plenty of info on either one.

I just spent a glorious 4 days away from the internet, TV and radio watching cars drive around in circles in the dirt, just the thing to help forget about sarah–I recommend it!

Thanks, the problem child. Glad to hear it, and I apologize for not unbolding yet again in my last post.

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CRFlats(19:53:31) :

AZTop,
I had a senior flash, and remembered his name….Norm Crosby. He mangled the English language with a Borscht Belt zing. Now, why I can remember that, but not the forth thing on my grocery list, is beyond me.
However, it is the only similarity, because the man obviously had great wit and brains…most importantly, a terrific sense of humor.

I miss Johnny….

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katanalori(19:53:33) :

This is from Andrew Sullivan’s blog on Daily Dish:
The ADN looks at an epidemic in Alaska:

Among the grim statistics:

• Alaska’s dropout rate, at 8 percent, was double the national average in the 2005-2006 school year, according to the latest figures available from the U.S. Department of Education.

• 38 percent of today’s ninth-graders will have no high school diploma 10 years from now, according to the Alaska Commission on Postsecondary Education.

• Alaska ranks 50th, or last, in the number of ninth-graders who will likely have a bachelor’s degree in 10 years, according to the commission.

Just as well they have a role-model governor who is dedicated to the education of her own children – oh wait: Her eldest son has a history of vandalism and was given a GED on the way to Iraq; her oldest daughter was removed from high school for a mysterious length of time last year and is now about to have a baby (due December 18, Palin told us); her youngest daughter, Piper, missed school all fall because she was being carted around the country in Neiman Marcus underwear. And the governor herself, of course, couldn’t manage to stay in one college, graduated with a degree in sports journalism, cut her own town’s library funds and leveraged the town’s budget on a new sports stadium (with new house thrown in!).

Relax. after 01/20/09 when a real adult and a staff of real adults take over to address vital problems we are facing, she will start to fade into total oblivion. Do not worry. Send her roses. She insured the total defeat of the Republican Party in this vital election for the survival of the United States. If she continues to be involved in national politics in ANY way whatsoever, she will insure the total and complete utter mind numbing destruction of the Republican Party. just hold on a little longer to January 20th, 2009. Hold on. She will fade. All this publicity is actually insurance on her ever returning. every time she opens here mouth it is a nail in her coffin. Let her talk. Just turn off the sound and watch her body language. She is an idiot. Yes. It was a total indignity against the nation that we had to endure this. But having to experience her muddled brain and unbearable voice was the price we had to pay for victory. She delivered total defeat for the Republican Party. She came through brilliantly to do her part. A total train wreck for a human being.

So relax.
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I couldn’t agree more! And I would add this: Even IF SP makes a run in 2012 she’ll be eaten alive by the other Repub contenders in the primary. And we should take heart that she keeps feeding them such great ammunition every time she opens her trap.

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copybook realist(19:56:01) :

Asiangrrl,

I heard in the forum that OCliberal is fine…though a “little” put out by it all.

house is safe, family is safe and beagles are safe.

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pvazwindy(19:56:31) :

Alaska, you have a problem. And it wasn’t smooth talk that put her in office, she’s not capable of that. SP is not fluent, its all those tongues that convolute everything. I guess Alaskans are use to her lack of diction. I’m certain that with the community following you have AKM, everyone who calls themselves a Mudflatter, would back any endeaver you might want to pursue. SP is bad Hoodoo. A good first move would be a recall for incompetence.

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(19:57:08) :

Whoot. copybook realist, thanks for the update. I am glad she’s fine. I can’t connect to the forum at this moment for some strange reason.

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Nisperos(19:57:43) :

I think we can now improve education by progressing science classes forward to evolution.

And, I think it’s still fair to talk about it. Those are associations that still bother me. I do not think that it is off-base nor mean-spirited, nor negative to call you and your fellow cultists out on their associations and on their record. And that’s why I do it.

And, yes Sarah:

Stevens had 7 felony counts (not 4)
McCain had 7 houses
At one point YOU told People Magazine you had 7 glasses.

So, take that boulder out of your own eyes.

I guess it’s time to expose The Seven Mountains Mandate for the BIG LIE which it is, and to STOP you and those crazies you associate with from plundering the wealth of our nation to your own benefit.

Doing this will progress the security of our nation and the country which we love and it will benefit the middle class. The Homeland is NOT just for those who you and your ilk consider the elect.

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starshine(19:58:19) :

Just saw on the local news broadcast that Palin will be in my state campaigning for Saxby Chambliss. Huckabee, Romney and Palin. Great. Just. Great.

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Jim, aka Pit Bull Hockey Puck(19:58:39) :

It must mean we’re old, Marty…😉

“Remember being an American means being powerful, proud and pushy, and in conclusion, let me finish by ending…Thank you.”Floyd R. Turbo, American

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Joan aka Timber Challange Palin(19:58:46) :

If interviewers like Wolf Blitzer would just just stop giving her the oxygen of publicity she would find it easier to sink back into the oblivion she came from!

Anyone who thinks she’s gonna run in 2012 is on crack. There is zero chance of her ever being on the national political scene again. My guess is she’ll finish her current term, then become a pageant instructor for the girls of Alaska. Something she’s clearly qualified to do.

Even the most fervent conservative won’t put a cent into a Palin campaign. The GOP won’t give her a dime. Unless she’s got her own money to run, she’s not running.. And even then, the real GOP members know. They’re intelligent people, trust me, they see what we see, they just don’t admit it publically.

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pvazwindy(20:02:19) :

Lynn-in-Australia (19:13:08) :

On a comment someone else made before, while this may be utterly creepy, can anyone imagine what she says to first dud during moments of marital bliss?
===============
Yes, yes I can:

Sarah toTodd; “Todd! I’m trying to write a speech also that will help us takeover the – again – the White House and you want to WHAT?”

—————————————————–Another stimulus pkg. UGH

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(20:03:31) :

starshine, you must be in GA. Lucky you to be treated to such a fine array of Republican dignitaries.

Joan, the media, they is a whore. They will do anything that will attract attention to themselves.

Marty, I bet there are a lot of starburstin’ Republicans who would be more than willing to pimp Palin out in 2012 if she would just continue winking at and flirting with them. Bill Kristol, Rich Lowry, to name a few.

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copybook realist(20:07:55) :

hey Assiangrrl,

I have been on an alaska diet…but am off it tonight.

When you get the chance, check out the recipe section of the Forum..where you will fine Obama Sweet Potato pie!, a mexican “drunken” Turkey as well as some great recipes from Ira2’s wild north.

I just got through watching a rerun of Obamas on 60 minutes and I think that I will sleep well tonight!

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pvazwindy(20:09:44) :

starshine (19:58:19) :

Just saw on the local news broadcast that Palin will be in my state campaigning for Saxby Chambliss. Huckabee, Romney and Palin. Great. Just. Great.

asian.. nah.. she’s done. No one’s going to commit millions of dollars to someone they know can’t win. And fund raising for her at this point would be nearly impossible.. Obama raised nearly a billion..! YES.. $1,000,000,000,000

Barbie might raise 100,000, but at $100 an hour per John, it’ll take her a long time.. That ended up funnier than i had intended..:)

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Bea(20:16:20) :

lock pepper in honolulu (18:20:54) :

Has anybody seen this? I had tears streaming! Apologize if it’s been posted before but it has Scarah speaking in rhythm with the Talking Heads–my favorites!

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Oh lock pepper, I too love the Talking Heads. Also too, so apparently did Sarah as also too she, unlike you and I also too, she decide to live out the album and STOP MAKING SENSE. 😉

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Anonymous(20:16:42) :

AZtopcat:

I was telling my husband today that Palin reminds of a comedian that used to appear on Johnny Carson show . He used to talk and use a flurry of words and phrases that made no sense. Unfortunately we could not remember his name.

“One of the things that you’ve got to understand is that we’ve got to develop a continuity in order to relate to exacerbate those whose curiosity has not been defended, yet the information given can no longer be used as allegoric because the defendant does not use the evidence which can be substantiated by… what was the question?”

Anonymous, ummm.. look back.. I had The Professor hours ago..🙂 I loved Carson..!🙂 Yes, he said very little but took a long time doing it..

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Bea(20:23:39) :

Running through the comments at record pace, but HAPPY to see you HOME asiangrrl!

Please also too remember that we cannot “progress” this message board unless we are always pallin’ around together.

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Judy in Chicago(20:23:53) :

You’ve got to be very careful if ya don’t know where you’re going ’cause ya might not get there.

Yogi Berra

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Nisperos(20:23:54) :

Sarah, here’s why didn’t get the Hispanic vote, and why I’m glad it hurts you… (in the same manner that praying that you would take care of your family and do what was right for your kids was like heaping burning coals on your head):

Sarah sucks. I am tired of reading about her, thinking about her, etc., BUT the commemorative issue of Times has an article worth reading, if only for the paragraph that says

“One thing the Troopergate report revealed is that she surrounded herself in Alaska with a feckless mix of cronies and yes-men and ceded far too much power to her husband. She would have to be a much better manager and judge of talent than that”

Here’s a link to the whole article (available via Time site, but buy the magazine issue for the historical value and the many other great articles!):

Marty, you always make me laugh… To the schlossen cutoff..
I can’t believe you said that! In my spouses family this became code for a certain exit on the Kennedy Expressway here in Chi. We were reminiscing
about the Old Schlossen cutoff and its origins on Johnnys show about a month ago.

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copybook realist(20:30:56) :

Marty, you are underestimating Palin’s narcissism.

She still thinks that she is intelligent and sexy.

She is psychotic and unless she has a major mental (such as …gee I am a total dim-wit) breakthrough in the next few years, she will barge through that cracked door and then…well I only imagine that it will be fun to watch.

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Aly(20:32:57) :

And Sarah, I am still very concerned about whether or not you faked a pregnancy, lied to the Alaskan people and the American people for that matter. You have offered up those “medical records”. Where are they? We want actual medical records from the attending physician who delivered Trig. Still waiting and we won’t stop till we get the truth….or a little DNA.

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(20:37:09) :

Bea, I saw your comments looking for me. Thanks! I appreciate.

Marty, I bet ya ten whole dollars that Sarah will run for prez in 2012 IF (and this is a big if) she’s not embroiled in scandal at the time.

Ok enough, Sarah. ENOUGH. The word “progress” is a noun. Yes, it can be used as a verb, but in the transitive sense — “I think the experiments are progressing nicely.” BUT NOT AS AN ACTIVE VERB, for cryin out loud!

YOU don’t “progress” a nation or a state. You don’t “progress” a journey or a goal. You don’t “progress” a meal or a car repair or a housecleaning. You don’t “progress” a policy or a plank or a potato! Stop already abusing and misusing the language already!

I really did like the article from Dick Cavett (sorry, no link), where he said she has no first language. That sounds about right.

Copy, she may think she’s fully qualified, but the people who finance a candidate has to see there is some chance of a return on their investment, and by now, anyone thinking she’s a viable candidate is either as stupid as she is, and will lose a lot of money, or he thinks she’s hot, which will end up the same way.

What she thinks is irrevevant now. She’s the lead in Dead Govenor Walking.

Shikago, yes, I actually felt verklempt when Carson died. felt it was like a grandparent died. He was special, even as a kid, i’d turn on the old tube tv my parents gave me to watch him. They’d come in and feel the hot tv and yell at me.. And just go to the fork in the road..🙂

Anyone who thinks she’s gonna run in 2012 is on crack. There is zero chance of her ever being on the national political scene again. My guess is she’ll finish her current term, then become a pageant instructor for the girls of Alaska. Something she’s clearly qualified to do.

Even the most fervent conservative won’t put a cent into a Palin campaign. The GOP won’t give her a dime. Unless she’s got her own money to run, she’s not running.. And even then, the real GOP members know. They’re intelligent people, trust me, they see what we see, they just don’t admit it publically.
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They will only use her in the sort run. But she is no Hitler. She is not formidable. She will not make a come back. She just does not have the chops. She would be destroyed in any Primary process by anyone who can stand upright a talk policy with a brain.

I got a kick out of her comment about the bloggers in their pajamas blogging from their parents basement. ………….Could that be us?? Ha!
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That IS definitely us! Who else could it be! Little does she realize in her NPD addled brain that there are people on this blog all across the world who are a lot smarter and more experienced in life than her. And little does she realize that there are forces within her own political party that could arrange for an unfortunate snowmobiling incident or an unfortunate moose chili cooking accident if push ever came to shove. She has no savvy in life at all. She is totally middle class. She has never had to deal with the darker elements in life. I have a few friends who did some serious time at the Federal level who owe me some favors and have solid connections to certain elements in North Jersey. But my Buddhist morality and my knowledge of karma would prevent me from ever dropping a dime on someone. But it is a nice fantasy. But in this case nature will just take it’s course with no fuss and no muss. Every time she opens her mouth it is really a form of suicide before the cameras. I say pay her no mind. She is her own worst enemy. In essence, she has dropped a dime on herself. She, herself, may very well end up doing some serious Federal time along with First Perp Stevens! It could all get quite crowded in there. Just don’t drop the soap.

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whichferret(20:43:20) :

This is off topic but thought guys would like this one…as me this time *blush*

copy we should put up a paypal bet site.. haha.. donate it all to obama in 2012..

But wait and see.. they ARE laughing at her. letting her dig her own grave before they push her in and cover it up. Concrete.. Ain’t no way she’s coming back.

Shes got a string of potential felonies waiting, the country thinks she’s an idiot, and even those who said they like her know. It’s like the parents with the really, really ugly baby.. ‘Oh she’s just soooo cute.. Love the goiter, and don’t worry, she’s only 2, she’ll lose 30 lbs in not time flat’..

They know.. they just didn’t say it..🙂

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(20:49:19) :

whichferret, I seriously doubt that W. lets anything penetrate the fog that clouds his mind. He can’t if he’s going to function at all.

Asian, she might want to run,, but those who control that sorta thing won’t let her.. it’s impossible. absolutely completely progressingly impossible.

Her kids will be older, and they’ll have read the stuff about mom, and will be embarassed enough. They can’t censor the kids reading.. They’ll get teased in school about mommy dumbo…

her ‘friends’ saw how she treated people she supposedly liked. She trashed anyone in her way to the top.

Again, it won’t happen. not if she was the only person left on earth..!

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copybook realist(20:56:18) :

Marty,

Well sure, it depends on who you are talking to and it depends on where they want to go. Brooks predicted that the repugs will continue on their current path, which Sarah, limbaugh and hannity, so far have the lead..in that they are the voice of the party. I don’t think that they will find their way out of the woods this cycle ( I have repug loved ones…believe me, they are a dense lot). Watching the Sunday pundits today, I would have to agree.

Lets make an agreement…no paypal nec. We will all agree to contribute our bet to ACORN!.

Perhaps a Forum betting pool? Can we keep it up for two or three years?

I’ve pasted this over on the forum secret holiday thread, but I’m doing it here, as well, to see if we can get a landslide response so that our overseas friends can be included. I’ve got 6 packages in the corner of my kitchen waiting to be mailed. 5 of them are to go overseas. I think I can handle one more. How about you???

QUESTION FOR ICY __ CALLING ICY ________________

If some of us volunteer to take on an overseas mudbuddy, understanding the increased postage & time, can we invite them?

For instance, if 5 of us raised our hands to volunteer for an overseas buddy could you send out an email and say you’ll take the first 5 who respond???

Come on team! We can do it! Let’s include our overseas friends!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(21:03:53) :

Marty, well, obviously, she won’t run if she’s in jail. I wish I could be as certain as you that the numbskulls won’t prop her up again.

copybook realist, I like your idea of giving the money to ACORN. I’m in.

Make no mistake, there are long knives in the Republican Party. Money talks. How many fundamentalist Christians in the 26%er base have serious money? I say very few. And she can never draw from a mass Internet donation base like Obama did. And besides, exorcisms are expensive. Surely you have to tithe the full 10% to get that VIP service in the Universe. And credit cards just might not work anymore to pat for an exorcism if the CDS financial nuclear explosion event hits. There are many other Republicans who can draw the big money in 2012 if the Republican Party actually still exists and that is a quite debatable at this point. I say the guy to watch is Wisconsin Congressman Paul Ryan. But that is a long way off. If we don’t solve these problems, there may be no United States by then. So I am not going to talk about any of this anymore. The focus is NOW: 01/20/09.

Good night all!

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(21:08:38) :

sapientaohm, welcome! Glad to see a new(?) face!

SMR, I don’t understand your post. Are you asking for people to post parcels for overseas members to a secret santa type of thing? Or to donate some money? Either way, I would be willing to help out–even though I don’t really do Christmas.

Could we add duct tape to the list of items needed to shut her up? Am I the only one who is as annoyed by her constant hand flailing and finger pointing as I am by her massacre of the English language? I swear someone needs to tape her hands to the d@mned chair!

MomsHugs Gnats, I voted. I don’t know what’s scarier–his remarks or that nearly forty percent of the people who voted agreed.

Someone should tell the idiot that if he wants to see an American regime that got as close to fascism as possible, he needs only look at our current president.

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SMR(21:24:28) :

@MomsHugs —

You poor thing! It’s like living in Alaska, but without the cold. How could so many people vote that they agree w/him?

Ick.

I added my vote saying Broun’s a dipsh!t.

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copybook realist(21:25:57) :

OK…a little shout out here,

Join the book club in the Forum. We will be reading Three Cups of Tea. i have no idea what it is about I imagine that there will be some lively discussions.

As far as the Palin presidential run issue; lets leave it as at this.

Everyone is in for 10 bucks….if she runs, you contribute 10 bucks to to Obama. If she doesn’t run, you contribute 10 bucks to ACORN. It is a Win Win situation.
When we get closer to the event we will make it more official. Personally, I hope that she burns like Icarus….

Night all.

I am on my 12 steps walk now, trying to break the news addition and the poor eating habits brought on by this Campaign.

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(21:36:36) :

nixmamaforobama, how about just put her in a sound-proof room there she can babble at herself all the time and the rest of us don’t have to listen?

SMR, ah, yes, but since I don’t do holidays….So, since I’m not going to be part of the swap, that would exclude me, right? Thanks for clarifying for me.

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Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein(21:41:01) :

I just had a long, disturbing phone call, with an old friend. I have been mainly avoiding him during election season, trying to forestall the sort of damaging conversation that we just had, which ended with me yelling and hanging up on him. I have never done that before, to anyone. What finally sent me over the edge was his rant on abortion.
But while we were still speaking, he proclaimed SP the poster child for feminism, lamenting how the Dems have slandered her, and referred to Camille Paglia’s views on Sarah, so I googled Camille and found this nugget in her post-election article:

“…I like Sarah Palin, and I’ve heartily enjoyed her arrival on the national stage. As a career classroom teacher, I can see how smart she is — and quite frankly, I think the people who don’t see it are the stupid ones, wrapped in the fuzzy mummy-gauze of their own worn-out partisan dogma. So she doesn’t speak the King’s English — big whoop! There is a powerful clarity of consciousness in her eyes. She uses language with the jumps, breaks and rippling momentum of a be-bop saxophonist….”

Oh my gosh. Rippling momentum? Palinspeak as be-bop?
The content, or lack of any, doesn’t trouble her, apparently.
Or my friend. I’ll just bang my head on the keyboard now.

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(21:41:33) :

copybook realist, night! Good seeing you again.

SMR, you made me laugh with your cogent and incisive description of Broun. Stupid idiot–he can’t even get his isms right.

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Swamp Buggy(21:46:58) :

You think Johnny might spring for some treatment? Or is treatment even possible? Maybe an intervention?

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(21:48:00) :

Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein, Camille has long since become tiresome with her desire to be soooo counter-whatever. I wouldn’t think about what she said for more than a hot second.

As for your friend, tell him this about being pro-life: If you care so much about children, then stop cutting the programs that help the living ones in need! Or if you want to be rude, call him pro-birth since that’s all most of them really seem to care about.

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SMR(21:48:45) :

@scrimshaw —

That’s an old article, I believe. I remember other writers saying “WTF is wrong with Paglia’s head?” They figured that she had a big lesbian crush on Sarah. Does anyone here know if Paglia is, in fact, a lesbian. If she is, why on earth would your friend be citing anything that she says — she must fall under the going straight to hell heading for that sort of person.

By the way, there is no F$%#ING way that ANY man should EVER think that they are any sort of an authority on feminism. NEVER EVER EVER. I don’t care HOW enlightened they are. And your friend does NOT sound enlightened in any way shape or form.

This election, more than any that I can think of, has brought out the best & worst in people. I would say that it has brought out the best in my political self, and, sadly the absolute worst in the political selves of some of my relatives and friends who get their talking points from church, Fox news, Rush L, etc. I was registered Republican until after the Palin pick, so I am NOT saying this as a crazy liberal Democrat.

Some of these crazy people are people that I have just had to accept that if I do not talk to them for several years — at which point they will have seen that Obama is not out performing abortions & taking their guns — then I am perfectly fine with that. If they never see that and I never speak to them again I am okay with that too. We will have lost any common ground at that point.

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(21:49:00) :

Swamp Buggy, I think as with a drunken one-night stand, McCain wants to pretend he never met Palin.

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Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein(21:49:17) :

And I forgot to include the link to the Camille Paglia article, in which she also says nice things about Obama, just before she rehashes his Bill Ayers connections in some detail (an old hand at the double-bind, I think.)

SMR, Camille is an equal-opportunity user. Back in the day, she was the queen of frank sexuality or something like that. I don’t know why, but I have never given a crap about what she thinks.

As for abortion, I got some flack when I was in middle school for saying ultimately, it’s the woman’s choice. My reply always is, “Who has to take care of the child in the end? The woman.” For some reason, that makes people mad.

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SMR(21:56:25) :

@scrimshaw —

You will feel sooooo much better if you read the comments. There are some good ones!

Andrew Sullivan is the biggest thorn in Palin’s side. He loathes her (probably because he’s a moderate conservative watching his party crumble).

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SMR(22:17:53) :

@asiangrrl —

You’re so funny. That’s a reasonable cut-off. But I live in AK, and some of my friends are just crazy, nice but crazy, so I have to give them the Palin as President thing. I do make it a point NOT to spend a lot of time with them, though, as they’ve been lobotomized by their pastors/deacons/etc.

I sincerely think she’s (Camille) given up on guys and is just giving lesbians a bad name these days…

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(22:19:30) :

SMR, hm. You have a valid point. Yes, the Muslim/Anti-Christ thing is a good cut-off point, then.

Camille gives womankind a bad name. Bah.

Oh, for the day when a bisexual, Asian American agnostic woman can dream of being president….

I kept looking for photos because those posted on Mudflats from Alaska events spoke eloquently and somehow made me feel involved. They said so much about the individuals who were moved to show up; their smiles, body language, and witty signs.

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Chief Shikago(22:27:59) :

SMR (21:03:42) :
I think your International Mudswap idea is a good one. I sorta felt bad for everyone outside the US who couldn’t participate, this is a good solution. Hell they should go for 20 sign-ups that would be 10 exchanges. If they come up with an odd number, they could post an Adopt an International Mudswap Orphan.🙂

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(22:29:35) :

Scrimshaw, good. You are a much better person than I. Just the fact that you would talk about this with your friend at such lengths indicates this to me. As I grow older, I find my tolerance for intolerance has grown quite a bit.

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Chief Shikago(22:30:20) :

Hau asiangrrl, how’s my sister tonight? We have snow flakes here in Chi, just a dusting so far.

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(22:30:35) :

Chief? Hey, bro, what are you doing up?

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SMR(22:31:54) :

@Asiangrrl —

Andrew Sullivan & Cajun Boy are my other blog addictions. Opposite ends of the spectrum with Mudflats in the middle.

I like Andrew. This election has had to make me re-evaluate my decisions about who’d I’d invite to dinner, you know when someone asks “if you could invite 5 people to dinner who would they be?” Do I get to invite the Obamas and the kids come but don’t count in the 5, do I invite my new mudbuddies, the bloggers out there that have made this election bearable? And should I leave one seat open for someone that I just want to be able to look at (David Beckham if he doesn’t wear a shirt or bring Posh)? So complicated!

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(22:32:29) :

We had snow, but then it went away. I want more snow! I love cold and snow. I’m fighting off bronchial crap. How are you?

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Hussein Canuck for Choice(22:35:25) :

Friday, September 05, 2008

Sarah Palin
Current mood:Aware
Category: News and Politics
Let’s be clear: I am not looking for compliments or friendship on the internet.

I found the first post I wrote on the Mudflats, Sept. 5

I’m Canadian. To a large degree thanks to the progressive thinker, humanitarian, and Order of Canada recipient Dr. Henry Morgentaler, women may have abortions legally in our country. Anti-choice fanatics are in the fringe minority up here. I’m a young woman who’s never had an abortion or an unwanted child. Canadian junior high/high school sex education classes promote preventing pregnancies and sexual diseases. Condoms and birth control advice are available in high schools, clinics, doctors’ offices, and from AIDS outreach programs – thanks to administrators and community organizers who believe that religion has no place in public policy. Statistics indicate that safe sex education works (because kids are going to “do it” no matter what) to prevent teen pregnancies in Canada, especially compared to anti-choice U.S. states.

I feel for my American neighbours that this tacky Anita Bryant type character (whose name will be forgotten soon I hope) running for V.P., wants to reverse the status of American womens’ rights back to 1958.

Hopefully, with transparency and due process, all the bad she’s done to people and our environment will bite her in the ass soon, and she’ll be done like dinner.

I read Cajun Boy, but only sporadically. I have too many other blogs on my plate. Dang. I really need to write before I go to bed.

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SMR(22:37:10) :

@Chief —

Well, I want US to be involved with the internationals too! Basically, the rules take into account the fact that the postage and time involved are greater, and that might not work for everyone. But I don’t care, most of my posting is overseas, and the cost really isn’t that prohibitive, esp for a small package for stationery. If it’s stationery you can say it’s paper and not even have to fill out the customs form!

So anyway, maybe I didn’t explain myself very well. What I was thinking was that if 10 (or 5 or 20 or ??) of us Americans raised our hands and said “I don’t care about the extra postage or time involved, I’ll take an international mudbuddy!” then however many of us there are there could be an equal amount of international participants, first-come, first-served.

Did that make sense?

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Chief Shikago(22:37:45) :

I have been working for a few hours on a project, but lurking n reading comments (when I should be working). I will be on here for work this week, during the day, so I’ll have me mudflats handy. I’m going to head off to sleep though. So, until then…

toksha akhe!

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SMR(22:39:17) :

i am just typing this to see if I can figure out how to turn off bold

it probably will not work so bear with me

i hate this stuff

blah labh algh shogjpa9u08tjb blah

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SMR(22:39:51) :

how do i turn off bold. i give up.

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(22:40:24) :

SMR, you just caught my loathing of unbolding. I do it all the time.

Hussein Canuck, those are just some of the reasons I would have fled to Canada had McCain/Palin been elected.

Chief Shikago, sleep well. I know too well about procrastinating by reading/posting at the ‘flats.

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(22:43:21) :

SMR, how did you turn it on? Did you use the pointy brackets like in the box header? If so, you have to do the same at the end of the bolded term except add a slash (going up from bottom left corner to upper right corner) before the b.

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SMR(22:43:50) :

@Hussein & Asiangrrl —

I will be glad when we get that biyatch out of the office of Gov so that university students here in AK no longer have to pay more for their birth control pills. That biyatch raised the rates on them! Oh yes, much better for uni students to interrupt their lives to raise children! God forbid they should be educated BEFORE they have children.

SMR
Right, I am with you all the way. The Night Kitchen folks and US muddies would all be able to sign up. (Have an International sign up so folks who can afford the Intl shipping could sign up and as you said have an earlier ship date) This is what I thought you meant at first.. so someone in Germany may have someone in OZ who has someone in America who has someone in France. That wouldn’t need an equal amount of Americans necessarily. just sayin…

I love this place…

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(22:48:46) :

SMR, don’t worry. I always forget to unbold.

As for Palin and birth control, well, shouldn’t every woman have her first kid in her teens? What will it take for you to forcibly keep her in Alaska?

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Chief Shikago(22:49:36) :

I hope they do it SMR!!!

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(22:51:42) :

Totally off-topic, but I just saw the pics of Palin in the hot pink t-shirt and short-shorts. She is in great shape, but isn’t it a bit revealing for a gov.?

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Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein(22:52:58) :

asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (22:29:35) :

Yes, only I’m afraid I negated any positive effects of the conversation by the way I ended it.
“G#% D^%& it!! Shut Up!!!”

I never learned to do anger well.
It shocked me. I wondered where it came from.
Oh yeah. The Right to Choose is personal, for me.

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(22:53:42) :

Totally off-topic, but I just saw the pics of Palin in the hot pink t-shirt and short-shorts. She is in great shape, but isn’t it a bit revealing for a gov.?

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SMR(22:55:30) :

@Chief —

I love this place too. I like the secret santa idea but it made me sad to do it while leaving out our great overseas friends…

Bet we can get everyone to put up their hands for including them! Besides, I need to replenish my overseas stationery. Okay, not really, I’m addicted to stationery and stock up wherever we are… Have some great stuff from Italy. All of it packed and ready to move to Calgary.

But anyway, will try to send am IM to Icy to see if she’s willing to revise her plan…

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Denise sansMSgaAZca(22:57:09) :

Palin unintentionally did a lot for Obama and the Dems in 2008. And she keeps giving.

” “If you can count, we need you in Minnesota by November 16 for training,” hollered an e-mail flyer that featured a winking Sarah Palin and was sent to party activists nationwide by the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.”

asiangrrl
Almost forgot…
I thought of you earlier today. This was something I thought you might like to watch when you have 6 minutes(needs to be read). It is a tribute to Native American Women it is strong medicine for your spirit. Which I so love to hear in your words. The photo’s of these women are so powerful, marvelous people.

Toksha Akhe
Chief Shikago

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MudWoman(22:59:12) :

OK, if you get “Zits” in the comic section of your paper, check it out today. It’s how I feel after hearing Sarah ramble.

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(23:00:23) :

Denise, damn. I wish I coulda been in on the recount. Stupid Strib used to be liberal, but it got bought out, and is now moving right. They endorsed Normie.

What a long week of waiting for them to count our ballots.
Im so sick of listening to SP, and even reading the articles, I notice one thing….she says the same thing over and over.
I never knew our political leaders were so dysfunctional.

Today, on my word of the day (our language to my people) I sent an inspiring video. And, slowly but surely, the Alaskan Democrat people are putting in their votes for change.

I sent the shorter one with native music with the same facts.

Everyday, (Or almost) I send out a word in our language, sometimes I send videos or news clippings, or stories, today I felt a need to send that one.

I wanted to look up the word Change in our language, but in doing so, wanted to share this video. I hope you all have time to read it or view it.

We are one step closer to finding the change we need in Alaska.🙂

You all have a nice evening, I have to go to bed!

I wasnt able to update my forum profile, and tried, will try again tomorrow.

I can’t use that here! Too many people voting for Ted. I don’t get it, never will get it, hope I never understand the sort of mindset that it takes to vote for him (or for M/P for that matter — but there WERE people who voted for Ted but not for M/P). I just really can’t go there. I have to lower the bar (raise it for limbo?) for Alaskans. I’ll be really really glad to leave this state.

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teri(23:05:15) :

@ Chief Shikago, I didnt see your reply till I posted up mine, I have that video on my bebo. I love that! I kept saying to my kids, do I look like that lady, or do I look like her, and they were like no, no,,, for one thing you are in your pajamas. LOL. I love that video that you posted.
Enjoy! I have to get to bed, here, gnite!

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(23:06:08) :

Chief, that’s awesome. Thanks for the link. I really appreciate it. I love learning about the history of women.

MudWoman, is it the one with the thick clouds of words smothering Jeremy? I just looked it up. Funny!

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Jamie, Floridian in France(23:06:30) :

Good morning from Nantes – anybody still up or just getting up?

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(23:07:53) :

teri, I love your video, too. Good night.

Chief, night, my brother. May you sleep in peace.

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Denise sansMSgaAZca(23:07:54) :

teri (23:02:11) :
Thanks. Have sweet and powerful dreams. Like the ideas you are sharing.

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A Brit Abroad(23:08:05) :

Hello everyone – just back from a weekend of Mudflats withdrawal… anything exciting happen? Glad to see Asiangrrl is back (I missed you last week!).

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Denise sansMSgaAZca(23:09:04) :

Hey AsianGirl. Glad to see you. Missed you.

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(23:09:04) :

Jamie! Hey, how goes it? How’s Marty? I am just going away, so I hand over my reins to you. Have a good day.

I wish more people would focus on her mental health. The diagnosis that she’s a malignant narcissist is quite accurate. Behind-the-scenes ragings? Check! Inability to listen to handlers? Check! Lying? The sense of entitlement despite clear lack of ability? Check and double-check!! List goes on.

Ooh, soory I missed you asiangrrl! And thank you for asking, Marty is fine except pissed off a bit because we haven’t had sun in Nantes for days and days and that is how Bostons recharge – roasting in the sun all day.

Good night, asian, sleep tight, don’t let the Sarah Palin’s Bite

Someone fill me in on the Mudswap thing.

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asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN(23:12:20) :

Jamie! Hey, how goes it? How’s Marty? I am just going away, so I hand over my reins to you. Have a good day.

The Swap–you should have gotten an e-mail about it. SMR posted a link up in the thread.

Denise, good to see you, too. Same with you, A Brit Abroad. There’s no place like the ‘flats.

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Jamie, Floridian in France(23:12:33) :

Oooh Brit – I thought you’d be back today. Great to see you! It was quite sad without you here this weekend…

I wish more people would focus on her mental health. The diagnosis that she’s a malignant narcissist is quite accurate.
+++++++++++++++

Plus Palin has boundless ambition. Bad combo.

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Denise sansMSgaAZca(23:17:18) :

Sweet and savory dreams. I’m off to find mine.

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SMR(23:17:20) :

@Jamie —

BEfore I turn in (have to get up at 5 a.m.) I’ll update you.

Secret Santa stuff, but the initial idea was to limit it to the US due to cost of postage for overseas packages, as well as the time involved.

I want us to be able to include our overseas mudbuddies, so I sent a PM to Icy (the organizer of the wonderful plan) asking if we could change it a bit. Asked if we could include international mudbuddies if there was a US-based mudbuddy willing to deal with the increased postage cost & early mailing. Hands up from Chief and me — we are willing to do it! So, if 10 of us volunteer to take on an international pal then the first 10 internationals who respond can be included. Of course I’m hoping there will be more who are willing to do the international bit. We’re a giving bunch! And there are plenty of international mudbuddies here!

will let you know what I hear back, or maybe you’ll get a mass comminque about it…

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A Brit Abroad(23:20:26) :

So much catching up to do…

Ian – much as I dislike homemade diagnoses I suspect that you are right about Palin’s mental health. (I married one and am still suffering from it – as is my son – not fun at all).

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teri(23:20:44) :

I do this, when I have time… (just finishing up a paper and will honestly go to bed. ) HA!

my email is haida_lady_99 at yahoo dot com, you can email me there and I will add you to the list. I have been doing this since 2004.

Just type in Sm’algyax list in the email so I will know to add you to the list I have. , when you write to me, its really easy to participate. We have an online dictionary.

Will watch this one more time while I type up this paper, and head to bed (Im a night owl)… glad you all enjoyed it!

once again, goodnight🙂

Teri, I edited your email to use “at” and “dot” instead of the usual punctuation so the ruthless spam-bots won’t find your email and spam you. AKM

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SMR(23:23:17) :

@Ian —

One could further speculate that the reason that she didn’t release her medical records is that she has been diagnosed with a mental disorder &/or is taking meds for it…

I say bi-polar. She just doesn’t seem stable to me. Just sayin’ also.

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Hussein Canuck for Choice(23:25:13) :

As for Palin and birth control, well, shouldn’t every woman have her first kid in her teens?

Good one, Asiangrril.

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Jamie, Floridian in France(23:29:01) :

@SMR

Thanks. I went to the forum, added my name to the list then messaged Icy with my name and address and I hope she got it! I’ll wait to hear…

@Denise – just wanted to add : malignant narcissism usually does come with boundless ambition. I too have experienced this with ex-business partner.

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SMR(23:32:43) :

Good night everyone! Time to turn in!

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Jamie, Floridian in France(23:34:32) :

In going back and rereading the posts re: the Santa Swap (whatever) I thank all of you that are willing to put in the extra postage so we, too, can play. As it is we already feel SO LEFT OUT because we couldn’t be in the States to canvass, knock on doors, work the phone banks, experience Nov 4 voting lines or join the gang at Grant Park, so if we had been left out of this too…..it would’ve just sunk the ship! So thanks and hugs!

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Jamie, Floridian in France(23:37:12) :

Nighty night SMR

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akmuckraker(23:49:34) :

New Thread!

Put on your Adventure Boots!

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Apphouse50(02:28:30) :

For shame!

Clearly the person who posted this clip is an American-hating terrorist, because this is torture, pure and simple.

You know it’s bad when, as you’re listening to someone drone on, the image in your head is of the impressionist who mocks them. For me in this case, it’s Randi Rhodes. Every day from 3 to 6 at Novamradio.com. It’s one of the things I do to get much needed comic relief.

If I were an Alaskan, I’d be starting an impeachment movement. For crimes against the English language.

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nonni_g(02:58:17) :

her voice makes my ears bleed and my teeth break; that’s why I cannot listen to her for more than a nano-second, also, you betcha…I have asked Auntie Em to please send a house to drop on her in Alaska, but so far, no tornado’s in Kansas….also, too, I had to beg my banker for forgiveness the other day; she wished me a good day and told me to come back soon—–and I answered, YOU BETCHA! oh. my. GOD. It took me two steps to realize what I had said. I turned around and said, “I really didn’t just say ‘you betcha'”… unfortunately, I really did….ugh…..I’ve been Palinized….is there a cure yet? other than a lobotomy? oh yes, I forgot, there is a cure—IT’S CALLED PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOOOOOOOOOORRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

okay, I’m over it now….have a great Obama day

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Bethsy in the Midwest(03:44:14) :

I hope I won’t offend anyone whose position on abortion rights is different from mine. However, I keep thinking about them in the context of the relentless Ayers attacks.

Palin refused to say that people who bomb clinics or shoot doctors who provide abortion services are terrorists. The fact is that the folks with whom Ayers was affiliated always gave notice that they were planning something so that nobody would be hurt. The nuts who bomb clinics and shoot doctors and nurses have no such scruples–they aim to hurt and murder.

I sure hope that the lady who’s suing for the emails continues. And that the house investigation proceeds full steam ahead. This is a dangerous woman who needs to be removed from any position of authority.

Re: double binds, well, my motto isn’t “embrace the ambivalence” for nothin’. I’ve found that the only way to listen to her is to turn her off. It’s quite pleasant with the mute button on, actually. Adding this to my Must-Read section. Thanks!

Trying to navigate forums from my mobile.😦 not workin too well. I need to get a laptop, like now. My massive monster computer systems are in the basement of what was my parents home (years ago) and im in my pj`s! So, I am going to get another cup of coffee and go down and power up. I must be the most insane muddy for reading/commenting from a 12 key cell. Me needs therapy.

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Glenn2008(05:12:03) :

The real Sarah:

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pvazwindy(05:16:02) :

She drives those Alaska guys wild with all that skin. makes you wonder what lever there pulling on when they vote for her.

I posted a short piece on my Myspace page about the ongoing hypocrisy of the Republican party. It spent months trying to convince Americans that Obama is a Muslim, a hater of Israel, a socialist, a Marxist, a friend of domestic terrorists, a raiser of taxes, and the list goes on.

The question is: why do the Republicans now want to work together with this man to move the country forward? After all, why would they want to associate themselves, in any way, with a Muslim, a hater of Israel, a socialist, a Marxist, a friend of domestic terrorists, a raiser of taxes, and the list goes on?

It’s obscene. And I really wish Obama would tell the Republicans to go screw themselves.

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cathie in ny(06:54:54) :

Sorry if this has already been posted – it is hard to believe the gall of this woman.

Thanks so much for sharing the doulbe-bind concet, since I wasn not familiar with it.

Awesome blog, keep it up!

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Sarah of Arizona(08:18:40) :

If the other Republican Governors she says she speaks for are smart, they will step up asap and make it very clear that she is speaking only for herself. She makes them all sound like idiots when she does that. She thinks she is now the leader of the party. I hope she does run in 2012. She will be the comic relief.

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katek formerly cd(08:22:13) :

I lasted about 2 minutes and then I’d had enough. Although I appreicate YOU, AKM for posting it. Sometimes I can listen to her but not today.

slightly OT@Hussein Canuck for Choice: I’m Canadian too and older than you and I had a few friends and acquaintances in university in the 70s who lives were probably saved by Dr. Morgentaler. One reason why I am pro-choice.

SP’s been in Florida and Gerogia. Don’t you get the impression she’d rather be anywhere but home?

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amsterdamcheapo(08:38:04) :

Yes, she could be a cheap stripper, but she’s done a good job of being an average hottie.

Perhaps John McCain did us a great service in letting us get to know Sarah Palin before she appeared as a Republican candidate! Surely she has given us and fellow repubs enough ammo that she wouldn’t even make it out of the primaries!

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nearlynormalized(09:40:16) :

Do not know how the Alaskans have put up with her, who voted for her? Beyond humor, downright stupid.

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the Norwegian Blue(09:43:45) :

@ Hussein Canuck for Choice (22:53:25)

Anita Bryant, exactly — another former loony beauty queen with the same annoying verbal tic of saying “a place called Norfolk, Virginia” instead of just “Norfolk, Virginia”…the same way SP says “the great state up here of Alaska”
See a classic pie in the face for Anita “Come to the Florida Sunshine Tree” Bryant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS91gT3XT_A

BTW I am cutting way back, trying to go Sarah Palin-free. To celebrate I’m renouncing my Rankle Hiway Palin honorific (especially as there seem to be two of us!) and going back to (MIchael) Palin basics with this screen name.

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bjalexa(10:42:05) :

Palin’s Ayers attack is so lame as to be laughable. Has she heard Bill Ayers talk? Does she have any idea what he does for a living? I think some network needs to get Palin and Ayers together for a face-to-face interview and sort this out. EIther put it to rest or let it blow up.

Sarah and her followers are the only ones concerned about Ayers at all. As a matter of fact, when I hear that someone is concerned about it, it signals me immediately that they’re uninformed and part of the wing nut brigade.

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Gypsy Cat(11:40:05) :

I am SO glad I found this website!!!! There are other people like me.

My whole life in Anchorage is one big double bind.

I know Sarah Palin is a whack job. I know she’s stupid beyond belief.

But here I sit, each and every day, in the middle of a Sarah Palin love fest. I spoke out against her ONCE before the election, and was forever barred from ever working on the north slope again. At least w/ my current employer.

Sarah Palin is ruining my life.

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blahgblahg(12:07:11) :

Can you imagine what would happen if she worked in a post office? I nearly went postal on my TV when I couldn’t find the remote control and Larry King Live was on its second round of the Palin pest.

What a great post! I sense some bitterness in her voice when she was talking about the campaign – I don’t think it does her any good to keep talking about the “domestic terrorist” association. I think she just needs to let that go.

I agree, she sounds like some kind of broken Stepford wife who keeps repeating herself and stammers when she talks, like a robot who short circuits occasionally,… Hilary Clinton, Condaleeza Rice, Pelosi, and many other women candidates don’t do this.

God, you poor northern bastards. We finally get rid of Bush, and you people are stuck with your own noxious version of the same weed.

At least our own Governor Arnold Schwarz — sorry, still can’t spell it — is sufficiently articulate, and has a good sense of humor.

You have my deepest sympathy.

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infogama(17:28:41) :

i don’t know babar blas. because i can’t english very well

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N. Harjo(19:05:29) :

“Funny you should say that.” Damaging for children? There’s an understatement. Sarah Palin reminds me so much of my mother that I often accidently call her Virginia Palin. Virginia was a Christian Reconstructionist aka Dominionist who venerated the same vicious people who solidly back Sarah. I vowed when Pat Robertson (for whom Virginia campaigned SO hard) ran for president that if the U.S. ever became like living in my mother’s house, I’d emigrate or commit suicide, only I wouldn’t fail next time. (I ran away several times and attempted suicide twice, once at age 8, once at 18.) One of my siblings is still hiding out in a Buddhist monastery at the other end of the country. People say Christian Reconstructionists are a fringe group. Not so. They are dead-serious and as insidious as termites. Google the movement and you’ll have the same nightmares I have, which Palin has intensified horribly. Think they’re harmless? My mother ran for Republican Committeewoman AND WAS ELECTED. We were all so relieved when she died, and we thought she was mouldering in the grave in Florida, but NO, here she is trying every-which-way to weasel into the White House! We can’t get rid of Sarah! She took over the Governors’ Conference here, and they couldn’t talk of anything but her! Can’t you Alaskans do something? Find some rabid wolves or an angry polar bear or a vengeful moose? Freeze her up in an igloo? Impeach her? — And by the way, has anybody up there seen Zina Saunders’ painting of Palin with her airplane and rifle, holding the carcass of a dead, bloody Statue of Liberty? http://www.drawger.com/zinasaunders. — “The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from our shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries.” – James Madison, 4th U.S. President. For our democracy’s sake, do something about her or secede!

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Swamp Buggy(22:52:32) :

N Harjo sorry to hear you have had it so rough. I certainly can understand. Wow. ian in Hamburg above remarked about how he’d wish people would pay more attention to her mental structure. I think he’s correct. I’ve had some experiences with these types, too much experience. I’m wondering if dear Sarah isn’t more than just NPD, how much has been related as to her conscience and her emotional range? Her empathy. This maybe my subjective pov but from the moment I heard her speak at the RNC the idea of moral insanity crept into my mind. M.I. being the 19th century term for sociopath. The problem I have with these markers or categories of understanding is then what? A huge segment of the population simply give a pass to this type of behavior if it is directed towards what they view as an acceptable goal or apocalyptic future. This kind of acceptance drags or attempts to drag all other processes down with it. It is infected with an archetypal uneducatable daimonic energy i.e. trash with interminable energy. Something out of a horror movie, or in the case of Ms. Palin a whorror movie. The incongruities of the meaning of the idea ‘maverick’ and the invoices for most likely well over $200,000 in high fashion clothing (and what this speaks to) will never be addressed, in fact it is to be understood that to bring up such inane comparisons should qualify one to be ostracized, shut out of civil doings of business.

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Snowplow Shovel Palin fka olay biscuit Palin(05:50:14) :

A clear case of someone of no cerebral substance – ADHD tempered with an immense sociopathic ego. Cannot articulate a coherent thought…runaway trainwreck. How did she get to be Governor? Seriously- put her in a room with Bloomberg, Shwarzernegger, Jindal et al and she looks like the “special ed” Gov. Quotas in Alaska? Serious minds want to know!

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