i am a backpacker and i am travelling through australia. AND i would love to go climbing in the araps. the problem is i just know how to sportclimb :( i have no expierience with tradclimbing (if you call it like this) jet. my question is should i take a course to learn it or do you thing that somebody there can show it to me or i can find people there which take me with them?
hope to hear from someody soon

Run your post through a grammar checker & edit "the araps" if you hope to get any serious responses on this forum!

Araps is a good social place & you'll probably link up with a few people willing to take you out, not necessarily teach you - that's for the commercial climbers - who will no doubt be in contact. As long as you're happy to second - there will be a few people to show you the ropes; though it's still very hot at the moment and it's not quite "on-season"
There's another thread at the moment about the risks involved in placing your own protection - so make sure you take it seriously.
Good luck Bruno.

On 18/01/2013 martym wrote:>Run your post through a grammar checker...

Don't worry Bruno, Marty is just pissed off that he failed foreign language in high school. Places like Papua New Guinea and Jamaica get on just fine without correct grammar. To tell you the truth English is a stupid language anyway so the grammar doesnt really matter.

Chockstone of searching "beginner" do and much information receiving possible.

I would caution people who are talking down to this dude that often Europeans called Bruno have a habit of climbing well into the 30s..........and if you happen to be a mid-teens araps bumbly, you'll feel like a total dick when he's onsighting 23s on gear a week after placing his first wire.

On 18/01/2013 One Day Hero wrote:>I would caution people who are talking down to this dude that often Europeans>called Bruno have a habit of climbing well into the 30s..........and if>you happen to be a mid-teens araps bumbly, you'll feel like a total dick>when he's onsighting 23s on gear a week after placing his first wire.

And he'll be really useful to have along if you fail on something : he'll be able to solo up, retrieve your gear and solo down.

On 18/01/2013 One Day Hero wrote:>I would caution people who are talking down to this dude that often Europeans>called Bruno have a habit of climbing well into the 30s..........and if>you happen to be a mid-teens araps bumbly, you'll feel like a total dick>when he's onsighting 23s on gear a week after placing his first wire.

I remember being dismissive about some Euro guy staying at a backpackers in Nati years ago who was keen to go climbing. I told him he should pay for a guide. In the end he hooked up with some mid-teen bumblies and onsighted Fault Line (23) for his first climb and then onsighted Undertaker (25) for his second climb! Not bad for a guy who had never done trad previously and at the top of Undertaker had to ask how to rig a belay on natural gear (this was before the bolt anchors existed).