Much like Obama, we can argue all day over how to classify Romney. I don’t give a wit about his rhetoric because his record tells me he’s an immoral lying statist of one stripe or another, so he won’t get my vote.

That said, I’m not sure we know who Romney really is or what he really believes about anything. My theory is that his entire life has been about garnering power to the ultimate glory of the LDS church. I think he set out to make a lot of money to position himself for politics. For Myth, the White House was always in view. He took whatever position he believed necessary for political advantage, not out of principle.

He is an connected elite. He has ties to the men behind the curtain. He will take America down the path to their hands of the NWO just like the past 4 Presidents. They are all tied to the same people. They work for them and not for us.

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posted on 06/16/2012 5:59:34 AM PDT
by bmwcyle
(Romney - not Obama - not a Conservative - not a real Christian)

He is an connected elite. He has ties to the men behind the curtain. He will take America down the path to their hands of the NWO just like the past 4 Presidents. They are all tied to the same people. They work for them and not for us.

Correct and we are so screwed....

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posted on 06/16/2012 6:11:45 AM PDT
by Doofer
(Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)

He is an connected elite. He has ties to the men behind the curtain. He will take America down the path to their hands of the NWO just like the past 4 Presidents. They are all tied to the same people. They work for them and not for us.

Correct and we are so screwed....

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posted on 06/16/2012 6:12:03 AM PDT
by Doofer
(Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)

You think it is cool to say the most outrageous things about the legitimately elected nominee, Mitt Romney because our top patriot, Jim Robinson, is opposed to him. I think good scrutiny is a good thing, which is what is being encouraged. However, I do not like unsupported comments out of the ballpark.

I’m prepared to come to grips with the simple fact that I’m voting against a Marxist, Communist who doesn’t know anything else, has never believed anything else, and never been indoctrinated into anything else. That isn’t Mitt. Mitt, at least, has an understanding of the private sector, how it works, what it needs, of its importance, not so Obama. While compromised by progressive drivel and PC, Mitt knows there’s another world out there, and he knows he has to play in that world now to be successful. Mitt can work with a Republican House and Senate, one that is trending conservative. Obama can’t, and he won’t, not that we will have to worry about it after January. Then we will have to worry about Mitt, and I’ll breath a sigh of relief. We’ll have someone who loves America back in the White House. For certain he won’t be the ideal, conservative choice, but we might get surprised. We might see some pro growth tax policies. We will see Janet Napolitano and Eric Holder out of government, and all of Obama’s commie, anti American friends with them. I bet we see some pretty conservative people taking some of their places. We will probably see some pro drilling, pro oil, pro energy for America policies, and quickly. Yeah Romney’s PC, but he knows what fills the tanks of America’s cars, and unlike Obama, he cares about something besides his own tank. In fact, for me, there is no choice. When it comes to Romney, I would rather go with just about any of the above, but they aren’t there. So yeah, I get the games. Is Romney a commie because he has been a progressive like Nixon, or like Bush with his “kinder, gentler America? It’s okay with me if you think so, but he sure as hell isn’t a commie like Obama. Sometimes I wonder if the biggest fear some conservatives have about Romney is if he will turn out to be a good, successful president, who is good for America. What a horror that would be. But I’m willing to risk it. He is better than Obama, and that is the only choice on the table, like it or not.

I'd like to point out that this term has a specific meaning which usually gets lost in modern use of the word.

Today we tend to think of it as meaning government by business coporations. But that's not what it means.

Corporatism was a branch of government theory in the late 19th and early 20th that was generally conservative (in the European sense) in origin. It was heavily promoted by the Catholic Church.

It referred to government by "corporations," which is derived from Latin for body and did not mean business corporations, but rather to groups of people organized more or less by occupation rather than locality. Labor unions, farmer's groups, business groups, professional organizations, etc.

It was an attempt to reject both socialism and its theory of class conflict and the American idea of representative democracy. A "Third Way." It was later adopted in theory by various fascists, especially Mussolini, but not much put into actual practice by them.

When corporatism started, the modern business corporation, which has become so dominant, played no such powerful role in society. So when the term is used today it is usually misused to mean government dominated by big business.

I'm just proposing the term be used carefully and properly, rather than sloppily to mean anything other than a government hostile to business.

Some fascists were corporatists, but not all by any means. And not all corporatists were fascists.

Corporatism was essentially a (European) conservative attempt to find a "Third Way" between Anglo-American capitalism and representative democracy and Marxist socialism. Though it also had liberal (approximately in the modern American sense of the word) and even anarchist strains.

I think you have pretty much synthesized the bad chemistry masguerading as intelligence from the few who claim to know everything there is to know about Mitt Romney and are willing accomplices in selling the country short for the oh so principled non vote in favor of something they know so little about. Mitt Romney certainly wasn’t my first choice. The Statist Newt Gingrich was, but that is past history, no pun intended.

Hey, if he turns out to be everything everyone is laying on him, but he gets rid of Obama care, and passes a budget that is closer to being balanced the the lying effing you know what that occupies the WHITE house now, I’d say he was an unqualified success in comparison.

People who think there’s no difference between 0bama and Romney really ought to have their heads examined. Yeah, I wish we could clone Ronald Reagan every 8 years, and I wish we had a more conservative nominee.

However, the current primary system has given us Romney. You don’t have to like it, but let’s take a look at what’s at stake. This country is not going to survive four more years of 0bama. Dictatorial tricks like this back-door amnesty crap he pulled yesterday will only lead to more executive decisions and recess appointments.

We have to get the vote out, not just for Romney, but for conservatives running for the Senate and the House. Electing conservatives to Congress is essential to either keep Romney on the right side of the issues, or, God forbid in case of a 2nd 0bama term, limit the damage as much as possible. For that, we need the Senate and maintain majority in the House.

Up next is the Primary process itself. We can all whine and moan about how the media elected our nominee and blah blah blah. I’m yet to hear about people taking action and re-taking control of the GOP. If it’s one thing I’ve learned from 0bama is that if you want to change things, you can’t just hope for it. You have to take action.

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posted on 06/16/2012 7:14:54 AM PDT
by EscapedDutch
("Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money" - Lady Margaret Thatcher)

While your post is probably the most in touch with reality, I am stopping at your post and will read no further. Sadly, We The People failed to do our sovereignty duties in the venue most in need of our oversight, the Republican Party. So we get scammed by the globalists selections placed at the forefront of that party by mouthing our values but when elected they do the values and work the strategy of the globalist behind the curtains. This election my only real question is can we forestall the final collapse little barry bastard commie was installed to accomplish and buy the time to change the republican party back toward a conservative profile. This election is sure not going to be one where turnout is driven by folks wanting to vote for a candidate at the top, so it will be an excellent reflection of whether the sovereinbgs of this dying Republic are interested in saving it by turning out in record numbers to install down ticket conservatives to turn the republican party around. If We The People do not turnout to change the party leadership then all that will be left is lock and load. Too many appear to want to jump ahead to the final stage without making one last effort. It is looking more and more like the globalist do not want Milt Rominy to become president because it just may be that he is not one of theirs. We shall see

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