Lower control arm 2001 Elantra can't removed last frame blot

Well I removed all but the last blot on the frame of the car.
This is one that is coved by the plastic mud flap.
This blot is the one nearest the front.
The head is fine but it turns and turns and does not back out.
I had heat on it BUT that did not do it.

Re: Lower control arm 2001 Elantra can't removed last frame blot

picture...because i have no idea what your taking about if the bolt is in the subframe...the nut on the inside (is welded) and it will just spin...you need a new subframe. if its the one i'm thinking of

Re: Lower control arm 2001 Elantra can't removed last frame blot

Went and saw the dealer today.
They are going to replace the whole front frame
They think maybe another week or so.
I will inspect the frame to see why they did it .
I find it hard to believe it is just because of the one messed up nut.

Re: Lower control arm 2001 Elantra can't removed last frame blot

Originally Posted by ken2400

Went and saw the dealer today.
They are going to replace the whole front frame
They think maybe another week or so.
I will inspect the frame to see why they did it .
I find it hard to believe it is just because of the one messed up nut.

Keep ya posted.

Hi, I'm new here.

I was under my car today trying to locate the source of a noise and found a bad front sway bar link. Anyway, beeing under there I looked at the rust since I want to apply some rust converter and and paint to help protect the frame. I was horrified to see that there is not only surface rust down there. The subframe (I think it's what's called the subframe) is completely rotted at some places

I had planned going to the dealer for the control arms recall, but now I see that even with new control arms, my car still won't be safe! I'm a student and can't afford to replace the subframe. I just installed 4 new struts and mounts, I bought a timing belt kit, water pump and crank pulley that I planned to install soon, and planned to do some other maintenance to have a car in great condition. Now I'm not sure if I should stop putting money in there and be forced to buy another car

I know there is a recall for the subframe on the sonata, but not on the elantra

Please, let me know what happens with your car. Did you still have any warranty ? Are they replacing the subframe free of charge even if it's not a recall on the elantra ? Did they simply offer it, or did you asked for it ?

Damned! I just go rid of my previous car last summer because the frame was dangerously rotten, and bought a newer car thinking I would have a couple years ahead without beeing too concerned by invasive frame rust. Guess not The problem is that the car was a 1987 Nissan Maxima! Yes, the car was 21 years old and in not much worse condition than this damned 7 years old hyundai!

If there is a slight chance that they will replace my subframe, I need to know it before going to the dealer for the control arms recall. I'm kind of scared to drive my car now

Re: Lower control arm 2001 Elantra can't removed last frame blot

Well long story short
two new lower control arms and sway bar links.

whole new sub frame.
Looked at the sub frame after they pulled it off and basiclly I was able to remove one bolt and messed up the other. In the end time is $$ and the dealer got Hyundai to replace the frame sooo they cut all four bolts that go into the frame. So much for asking what the trick is to get them off. I think if I spent more time on the bolt nearest the front with more heat I would have freeded it.

Time to fix the CEL having to do with evap system and rust tank in the back.

Thanks and time to print the recall notes off and put them on all the 01-03 Elantras I see

Good luck with your.

The recall says you are coved. Here is the recall.

Recall Date:
APR 16, 2009

Model Affected:
2001 HYUNDAI ELANTRA

Summary:
HYUNDAI IS RECALLING 170,610 MY 2001-2003 ELANTRA AND MY 2003 TIBURON VEHICLES ORIGINALLY SOLD IN OR CURRENTLY REGISTERED IN THE STATES OF CONNECTICUT, DELAWARE, ILLINOIS, INDIANA, IOWA, MAINE, MARYLAND, MASSACHUSETTS, MICHIGAN, MINNESOTA, MISSOURI, NEW HAMPSHIRE, NEW JERSEY, NEW YORK, OHIO, PENNSYLVANIA, RHODE ISLAND, VERMONT, WEST VIRGINIA, WISCONSIN, AND THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA. ROAD SALT USED DURING THE WINTER MONTHS IN THESE JURISDICTIONS MAY RESULT IN INTERNAL CORROSION AND THINNING OF THE STEEL IN THE FRONT LOWER CONTROL ARMS. THE CORROSION MAY PROGRESS TO THE POINT WHERE THE LOWER CONTROL ARM'S UPPER AND LOWER PANELS BECOME PERFORATED. A PERFORATED FRONT LOWER CONTROL ARM MAY FRACTURE BETWEEN ITS BALL JOINT ATTACHMENT AND THE FORWARD AND REARWARD PIVOT ATTACHMENTS TO THE CHASSIS.

Consequence:
THE FRACTURING OF THE CONTROL ARM COULD AN OWNER¿S CONTROL OVER THEIR VEHICLE THAT MAY INCREASE THE RISK OF A CRASH.

Remedy:
DEALERS WILL INSPECT THE FRONT LOWER CONTROL ARMS FOR CORROSION DAMAGE. IF SPECIFIED LEVELS OF INTERNAL CORROSION DAMAGE ARE FOUND, THE FRONT LOWER CONTROL ARMS WILL BE REPLACED WITH NEW FRONT LOWER CONTROL ARMS INCORPORATING ADDITIONAL HOLES IN THE UPPER AND LOWER PANELS. IF THE FRONT LOWER CONTROL ARMS DO NOT REQUIRE REPLACEMENT, THE DEALER WILL ADD DRAINAGE HOLES TO THE FRONT LOWER CONTROL ARMS AND WILL TREAT THE FRONT LOWER CONTROL ARMS WITH RUST-PROOFING MATERIALS TO ARREST THE INTERNAL CORROSION PROCESS. THESE PROCEDURES WILL BE PERFORMED FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN DURING APRIL 2009. OWNERS MAY CONTACT THE HYUNDAI CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE CENTER AT 1-800-633-5151.

Potential Units Affected:
170610

Notes:
HYUNDAI MOTOR COMPANY 091

Originally Posted by 2002VE

Hi, I'm new here.

I was under my car today trying to locate the source of a noise and found a bad front sway bar link. Anyway, beeing under there I looked at the rust since I want to apply some rust converter and and paint to help protect the frame. I was horrified to see that there is not only surface rust down there. The subframe (I think it's what's called the subframe) is completely rotted at some places

I had planned going to the dealer for the control arms recall, but now I see that even with new control arms, my car still won't be safe! I'm a student and can't afford to replace the subframe. I just installed 4 new struts and mounts, I bought a timing belt kit, water pump and crank pulley that I planned to install soon, and planned to do some other maintenance to have a car in great condition. Now I'm not sure if I should stop putting money in there and be forced to buy another car

I know there is a recall for the subframe on the sonata, but not on the elantra

Please, let me know what happens with your car. Did you still have any warranty ? Are they replacing the subframe free of charge even if it's not a recall on the elantra ? Did they simply offer it, or did you asked for it ?

Damned! I just go rid of my previous car last summer because the frame was dangerously rotten, and bought a newer car thinking I would have a couple years ahead without beeing too concerned by invasive frame rust. Guess not The problem is that the car was a 1987 Nissan Maxima! Yes, the car was 21 years old and in not much worse condition than this damned 7 years old hyundai!

If there is a slight chance that they will replace my subframe, I need to know it before going to the dealer for the control arms recall. I'm kind of scared to drive my car now

Re: Lower control arm 2001 Elantra can't removed last frame blot

Great! Thanks for the update. I'll see if I can get them to replace the subframe with the control arms. It sure is not in good shape. Holes in some places, and probably paper thin at other places where it might still look OK.

Re: Lower control arm 2001 Elantra can't removed last frame blot

Originally Posted by 2002VE

Hi, I'm new here.

I was under my car today trying to locate the source of a noise and found a bad front sway bar link. Anyway, beeing under there I looked at the rust since I want to apply some rust converter and and paint to help protect the frame. I was horrified to see that there is not only surface rust down there. The subframe (I think it's what's called the subframe) is completely rotted at some places

I had planned going to the dealer for the control arms recall, but now I see that even with new control arms, my car still won't be safe! I'm a student and can't afford to replace the subframe. I just installed 4 new struts and mounts, I bought a timing belt kit, water pump and crank pulley that I planned to install soon, and planned to do some other maintenance to have a car in great condition. Now I'm not sure if I should stop putting money in there and be forced to buy another car

I know there is a recall for the subframe on the sonata, but not on the elantra

Please, let me know what happens with your car. Did you still have any warranty ? Are they replacing the subframe free of charge even if it's not a recall on the elantra ? Did they simply offer it, or did you asked for it ?

Damned! I just go rid of my previous car last summer because the frame was dangerously rotten, and bought a newer car thinking I would have a couple years ahead without beeing too concerned by invasive frame rust. Guess not The problem is that the car was a 1987 Nissan Maxima! Yes, the car was 21 years old and in not much worse condition than this damned 7 years old hyundai!

If there is a slight chance that they will replace my subframe, I need to know it before going to the dealer for the control arms recall. I'm kind of scared to drive my car now

Did they cover your sub farme? let us know, also I have an extra sub frame and I only want $200 (less than $200 for shipping in most North Ameerican locations) for it, its an easy swap if you have an engine hoist or support for engine and tranny.

Originally Posted by ken2400

they cut all four bolts that go into the frame. So much for asking what the trick is to get them off. I think if I spent more time on the bolt nearest the front with more heat I would have freeded it.

If you drill a 1/4" hole right beside the bolt head and jam a small peice of steel bar in to prevent the nut from spinning it should be enough to remove bolt, but before removing the bolt 100% from the nut pull out the steel rod and put a tack weld on the nut via that hole, this works as we did it on my Excel onece, not exactly the same setup but same idea, lol or you could put the weld via the hole without using the steel rod.

If your hard on your car as in a crazy driver I recomend a more solid solution though.

Re: Lower control arm 2001 Elantra can't removed last frame blot

you dont even need the engine hoist to to do the subframe....the tranny and the other engine mount hold it in place. you want to be able to rock it back and forth to line up the bolts for hte other mounts .

glad it was taken care of...but i think theyhave been doing so many of them it took them awhile.

Re: Lower control arm 2001 Elantra can't removed last frame blot

Originally Posted by only1db

you dont even need the engine hoist to to do the subframe....the tranny and the other engine mount hold it in place. you want to be able to rock it back and forth to line up the bolts for hte other mounts .

glad it was taken care of...but i think theyhave been doing so many of them it took them awhile.

the hoist was just for safety.

Originally Posted by ken2400

It was 0 cost to me including the tow.
So I think Hyundai is GREAT on that put
BUT
why such a delay on mailing the recalls notes out????????????

Thanks for the bolt tip. I may need it someday.

good to hear they covered it, about the recall letter I got mine really late too, maybe just a Postal delay may not have been Hyundai, The dealer you purchased it at would also send you a letter as that is how I find out all the recalls, besides here of coarse, lol

Re: Lower control arm 2001 Elantra can't removed last frame blot

I just found that thread again, I had forgot to update on my situation. I called the dealer maybe in october, and it took a while to have the parts, so I got an appointment in late november or early december. Unfortunately, they did not replace my control arms, wich were still in acceptable condition, but they changed my subframe

I will probably eventually replace my control arms, but I can wait for a while. The subframe was really the big problem as I could not have changed it myself, and it would have costed way too much compared to the value of the car. Now with a brand new subframe, I know it will last for as long as the rest of the car will.

I brought an aftermarket power steering hose (pressure side only, could not find an aftermarket succion side) at the same time and had the dealer replace it, and they replaced the succion side also. I paid for the succion hose and for the labor, and also for the alignment required after the recall work. The subframe and labor related to the subframe was free.

So for all those that live in an area where the recall is effective, it's well woth a trip to the dealer!