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A few months ago I started having these vague intuitive thoughts that hallucinogens have actually played a major role in the evoltuion of human beings. Could hallucinogens played a role in evolving us from apes into humans, actually changing our conciousness and improving our language capabilities? I've recently discovered that this is a theory held by some scientists. Does anyone know more about this? Or what do you think about this idea?

imo evolution is like this retrospective way of describing historic process specifically with genes. when it comes to the role of mushrooms in this i'm sure they played a role, but a defining one? it's pretty speculative.

but people use evolution to mean any kind of historic process or growth, or increase in complexity. since hallucinogens are part of our culture and the historic process we're in, i would say they are part of our evolution.

--------------------"consensus on the nature of equilibrium is usually established by periodic conflict." -henry kissinger

theres no way we can really tell.. personally, i think that hallucinogens played a big role in shaping humananity. even in the past 500 years, they have played a major role in our thinking. the great awakening was caused by an outbreak in ergot, which is whhat LSD is synthesized from.

--------------------"Psychedelics should be used not to escape reality, but to embrace it"

i thought the theory was something like, early humans were willing to eat the mushrooms and the neanderthals werentmushroom-eating gave the humans an evolutionary advantageand they passed on more of their genes

for mushrooms to play a role in evolution, they would not have to affect individual genes, only the composition of gene pool

--------------------"consensus on the nature of equilibrium is usually established by periodic conflict." -henry kissinger

when cavemen ate acute quantities of mushrooms their site was better so they could hunt better...also the mushrooms helped develop language. if mushroom eaters...are surviving better because of whatever it does to their brain...why can't the brain start doing it on its own?in evolution...i think the environment and things like mushrooms can affect DNA....it just takes a really freaking long time.

Quote:Swami said:when cavemen ate acute quantities of mushrooms their site was better so they could hunt betterHow many here have gone hunting whilst tripping? Show of hands please!

also the mushrooms helped develop language. Evidence? On what would you base this?

i think ... things like mushrooms can affect DNAPlease post a copy of your PhD in microbiology or give sources or basis.

Dude...I'm not claiming that any of these things are true. I don't think cavemen went hunting while tripping their balls off...I did say "acute" amounts of mushrooms. Also on the language thing...while they were tripping they could have been having auditory hallucinations and they themselves probably made weird sounds and they eventually started associating specefic sounds to certain things. Like...while tripping they were in awe of something and they heard some noise and tried to recreate it and eventually they started calling it that. i don't know i'm just making shit up...but i think the theory is interesting.

Quote:Swami said:The word "acute" does not apply to amount. But then again I thought you wrote that mushroom use increases one's ability to utilize language...

So you just make stuff up with zero basis because it sounds cool ? Do you understand that a theory, while being an incomplete picture, still needs SOME groundwork?

Acute cannot apply to amount? Are you sure about that? (edited: you're probably right on that...my grammar sucks)I'll admit that I am incapable of forming a good theory. But what is wrong in discussing and formulating ideas? How do you think theories come about? And also...what is wrong with doing this for just entertianment purposes?