So I get an email from Nero today, inviting me to spending £40 quid upgrading to Nero 2015 Platinum - with absolutely no info whatsoever as to what is available in this new version.

Is this some kind of joke? Why would I upgrade without knowing what I'd be getting?
And since last year's upgrade broke the ability to play BluRay discs for about 3 months, I'm obviously a bit cautious...

I downloaded the trial version. But can't do anything with it to test it out!!! Doesn't allow a thing, always gives me a note
Click Info to find out about our offer!!!!
So why to buy it, if you don't know what you'll get? I still have my Nero 10 HD, my Nero 9 that is just great. but Nero 6 was one of their best versions.
I could only see that Nero Recode is now for dummies

They do list improvements at nero.com, Products. There are also some improvements not listed there. For example, one now has the abiltiy to fit music to a project duration or vice versa in Make Advanced Movie. It was previously only available in Express editing.

to Wither
thanks, also for the reply in the other thread.
For editing I use Adobe Premiere Pro CS6. For encoding the same its fast, really fast and excellent quality. But for DVD's though I can import vob files, between the files there is sometimes 1s missing. That's why I use Nero Recode.
I have hundreds of DVDs I made, that I now want to save as mp4. I just wondered if you have some experience in the speed improvement between version 10 and lets say version 14 or 15? If there is an improvement by 30 to 50 % including my cuda cores that would justify an upgrade. If the speed improvement is minimal, then its a waste of money.
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About the cuda cores. I read here in the thread, that the newest nvidia driver above 3.4x is not working for nero or also Cyberlink mediaespresso 7. However the interesting thing is, that Adobe CS6 Premiere or Media encoder uses my cuda cores with nvidia driver 3.44 as much as it can. I can see the usage, while scrubbing or while encoding between 30 to 60%.. Interesting?

I haven't specifically tested the differences in encoding times between Nero versions. I trying an export from Nero Vision Extra right now. I'll then try it in Nero Video 2015. Note that I'm using an older driver so CUDA is in use. I'll get back to you on what I find.

I exported a 45 minute video to mpeg-4 using both Nero Vision/Video in v10 and v2015. It took v10 44 minutes. V2015 took 77 minutes. I exported the same file to AVC (which uses CUDA) in v2015 and it completed in about 35 minutes. I'm trying the same thing in v10 right now and it's estimating 65 minutes but it's going to take longer, based on what I'm seeing. So far, v2015 is the champ if one uses CUDA. The verdict is still out in regards v2015 exporting speeds compared to v10.

Don't buy any Nero products. I purchased Nero 2015 Platinum in December 2014, to date I have not been able to install the software on my PC. Various communications with Nero technical, files sent as requested and get no reply.
I have asked for a refund and was told this is not possible, it looks like I have just wasted my money. Never ever will I buy or recommend Nero.

I've got v2015 Platinum installed on two different systems with two different operating systems (Vista and Win 7). My neighbor just installed v2015 Platinum on his Win 8.1 system and had no problems. I've said it a thousand times, these problems are system specific.

I see you haven't posted before and this thread isn't about installation problems. I don't know when you're last correspondence with tech support was. You should send an e-mail to techsupport@nero.com and ask them the status. Use the same e-mail address as you use to log into the forum.

Those security features are prone to making the whole program so secure even licensed users can't use it?

I run into problems with security because I like to turn off unused programs/services.

The more stuff you have running the slower the computer runs and the more prone it is to crashing? Ideally a program turns itself and its services on only when it's launched? However a lot of programmers insist on leaving everything running even though you might only use the program a few times a year?

Nero is bloating terribly because of some of these poor programming practises?
I don't mind if the programs are a bit porky... but at least give customers the ability to turn them off when not being used?

Thus I often turn off the validation required to make the program work... and it doesn't automatically restart when the program is run.

As the error messages aren't meaningful enough it's usually not possible to work out why the program isn't working without contacting software support (which I do if necessary).

Software support are very helpful and helped sort the problem out but it takes time... and it always happens when you are in the middle of some important backup?

It would be better if there was less security?

If I run into these problems I usually just switch to a program that doesn't have quite so much security?

Michael, in the newer versions of Windows, (at least Vista and Win7 that I've seen it in) using right click -> "Run as Administrator" is NOT the same thing as being logged in as a user with administrative privileges. Sometimes even the Administrator needs to use "Run as Administrator"

I just upgraded from nero 10 to nero 2015. I had downloaded the trial version first to see what the new features were. The trial version opens well, but the version I just paid for will not open. can you help?

Finally got Nero 2015 installed (knew if I waited long enough they'd fix the install problem eventually)... only to find it won't backup some of my data because the directory path is more than 260 characters.

What does it take to save directories with paths of more than 260 characters?

:-)
PS. How can you have directories with more than 260 characters if Windows doesn't support them?

Please provide a meaningful list of product improvements when you offer upgrades?

So far I'm still none the wiser what the actual improvements were?

:-)
PS. Even backing up my files didn't work properly in Nero 2014 if I used different disks or disk sizes. That was meant to work. It results in a stack of unusable Bluray disks every time I try it... and Bluray disks aren't cheap... especially if you're using dual layer (I want to try quad layer next). Haven't tried this yet in Nero 2015 yet.

I have to say that I wish to god I came to this forum and read all this before just yesterday purchasing Nero Classic 2015 for a what I thought was a bargain price of £12.90. I only wanted it for Nero Video to see what advantages and other stuff it has in it, in comparison to my Nerovision 2010 edition I got years ago.

Well the first thing I noticed is that it has not got any as you cannot even get the thing to bloody work (LOL) It's working as a trial or demo and I cannot export a thing. OK there is perhaps a few more effects and transitions and so on, but over the space of 5 years I am not that impressed at all.

Why on earth Nero just did not make add on packs such as Themes and FX I don't know apart from they like to rip you off big style by the sounds of it, by introducing a new Nero Suite and package every year.

God help those who have paid full whack for the latest 2016 release or even more than the £12.90 I just paid for 2015 Classic. The only thing that is classic is the fact that they do not have a clue what they are doing and should be reported to trade description, cause they have not learned a thing since 2010 in my opinion, and are selling products that simply do not work.

I was reading an article on Delphi by a Delphi programmer and they listed common software that was programmed in Delphi.Nero was one of the products listed. I didn't post the original link as I didn't want to bore any non-programmers with the details.

A one word comment is meaningless unless you can guess the context?

I assumed someones comment had been deleted because it was an .

If my post was an ad Nero would have deleted it long ago?

One word comments are not very useful unless other readers can guess the context?

If Nero is using the latest Delphi version it's very easy to update the software.

The Delphi web site nicely summarised the products capabilities for anyone not familiar with the product?

The article is much more in depth giving examples of Delphi's capabilities, comparing it to other programming languages and giving real life examples.
Most people seem totally unaware of the advantages of programming languages they don't program in... so posting the article might be a good idea?

The article was not written by a Delphi employee... which was another reason for thinking it might be relevant?

However the bottom line was I thought Nero could do a lot better?
...and was trying to encourage them to improve the product a bit.

Nero keep telling us what the product can't do... when that seems at odds with what the programming language is designed to do? In fact the article I read was moaning about Delphi programmers who don't bother to update their code.

I assume that I'm mainly dealing with the marketing department... not the guys doing the programming? That would explain the disconnect?

Sorry for the off-topic, but Nero is really programmed in Delphi? Oh my god, this is the language my teachers told me only exists in ancient programming textbooks, and not used by anyone because it's a dinosaur.
This would explain a lot. You'll probably have recruitment problems because no young computer scientist in the right mind would want to work with Delphi. That's also why we see literally no improvements over the years, Nero 2016 is as buggy as ten years ago. The UI has not changed at al, and still looks as if it was from the 90s.

I've posted a list of the capabilities of Delphi... but Wither is still making excuses for Nero.

I emailed Nero support directly but got exactly the same kind of reply.

Wither did make a range of useful suggestions... but then seems to have decided the topic was too hard and ignored it by trying to write it off as "advertising"?

As my original topic heading said... it would be really nice to know what improvements have been made between versions? That way we could work out which bugs have been fixed and whether it's worth purchasing an upgrade?

I appreciate the help and don't wish to discourage anyone from taking the time to help less knowledgeable users.

I recognise this as a Nero issue that they should address... but emailing them over the years hasn't resulted in any improvements (the suggestions seem to be ignored)... so I'm hoping that by stating the problems clearly in forums someone in Nero will eventually get around to doing something about it?

When I see somebody posting a link for a commercial product in a year old thread, I presume it is advertisement. If it's not, my apologies.

What exactly did tech support say? I don't think they would have any problem saying whether or not they program using Delphi. Since the software has been working well on most systems for 20 years, I guess it shouldn't be an issue.

Support said much the same things as you did... but they didn't address many of the issues I raised... like being asked to pay for an upgrade without clearly listing any improvements (which suggests there weren't any?).

They claimed it wasn't possible to fix some of the problems I complained about despite the fact that Delpi includes support for things like long file names and file paths.

A lot of the problems they just ignored.

I assume that support and the guy(s) doing the programming are not the same people?

It has been pointed out in the Delphi forums that a lot of programmers aren't updating their Delpi versions regularly (it's an expensive program)... and this is yet another reason why improvements may not be making it into products like Nero?

I don't know the reasons that the program hasn't been updated with the latest features but I do know that they appear to be available (technically feasible)... and that you won't get any changes if you don't clearly state the problem and ask for a solution? The squeaky wheel gets the oil?

I also suspect that the improvements being requested aren't all that hard to implement so it's worth asking?

It's not a very old thread (2015) and I posted in 2015... but I've been posting in similar threads for years... so it's not a new complaint? Plus the subject was appropriate?

Maybe persistence will eventually win the day?

Even emailing support didn't result in a meaningful list of improvements. They didn't seem to know?

I kind of hoped that Nero would offer a refund (or a free upgrade to next years version)... which would at least suggest they were listening. If I have to ask then they're not listening very hard? It would also address the problem I had where it took me most of the year to get my Nero up and running so I didn't get much use out of it.

...but really I'd prefer if Nero clearly stated that they had understood the problems and would address them.

Providing work-a-rounds does not address the root of the problem. Most work-a-rounds require the user to work differently. Asking the user to change makes less sense than changing the product to improve the user experience?

I've never established if there is any kind of formal bug/enhancement list and whether these suggestions make it onto that list? It would be nice if they did.

...so despite the complaints... I'm disinclined to ask for or accept a refund.

What was your older version and what did you upgrade to? WaveEditor has not been part of a Nero Suite since v14 (I think, but my memory is not as good as would like). You can go to nero.com, downloads, and download the latest version of WaveEditor. It should integrate into the welcome application for whichever version of Nero you upgraded to.

I'm using 2014 and the only reason I was looking at 2017 is cuz hardware acceleration doesn't seem to work with my new GPU. I only need recode thats what I use daily. I was gonna buy the christmas offer that give u alot of stuff with platinum then I was like meh. 2014 can do all the stuff I need minus the hardware acceleration. so I decided to save the money.

It's an old thread indeed but actually still just as relevant because Nero have done exactly the same this year in that they're offering a purchase now without any information about what has changed in the new 2018 version. As for common issues we haven't a clue if the outstanding ones have been fixed. What we do know is subtitles yet again don't make an appearance. There's a new way to edit video and some templates but hardly a reason to look further if the information from their employee is correct.

and how come it took two product releases for me to realise it wasn't just that my Nero was screwed again, but that the feature was actually removed?! loooool
(Cos there was one new version which broke BluRay playing, but that was by accident and we had to wait for a fix... 2014 maybe?)

Two versions back would be v2015. If you want to run it in Win 10 and it won't, I suggest changing the compatibility mode to Win 7 or 8. People are running versions as old as v7 in Win 10 by doing that.

Last time I tried it, it didn't work. I lost the will to care any more. I still use Nero Burning ROM on the rare occasions I need to burn optical discs (about once or twice a year!) and it has barely changed since windows XP / version 5.... and I use the freeware Laewoo bluray player.

I've been using v12 and occasionally, 2014. I was shocked when I saw the 2017 demo of Nero Video and saw the lack of any new transitions, still no subtitle support, no META data support, and no real advantage over 12. The only significant difference is that the newer versions of Nero Video use up more screen space with the 'enhanced' program interface.

I've customized the hell out of 12, adding tons of my own text and frame buttons. Nero Vision 12 reads all of my Haugepaugge PVR 2-recorded 1080/30p HD videos without re-encoding them, so program speed isn't an issue. Once my recorded videos are output to BD structure, they can also be used by other authoring programs without the need for re-encoding ... like TMP Authoring Works.

Well, lots of things have been added since v12 (and some were taken away in v2016).

I don't understand your comment about meta data.

You can use the BD structure created by any version of Nero in other programs that can read BDAV or BDMV. The structure is a specification used by all programs similar to Nero. Maybe you're talking about an .nvc.

I'm referring to the META directory of a BD file structure; the BD subdirectory within a META directory, allows you to include viewable titles and images which display on BD playback. NERO Video has never and still doesn't allow you to edit and/or create the information within the program -- you still have to manually create and add the information after Nero writes the BD.

I have always only used Nero for it Video Authoring ability (not any of the bloatware included with it), and don't see any new features beyond speed and 4K support. Menu authoring is the same; video editing is the same. As far as pre-designed templates, I wouldn't know if new ones are available since I always create my own.

Is there now subtitle support in Nero Video? Are there new video transitions? New matts or enhancements to any of the other video editing tools? Perhaps the demos don't allow access as I didn't see any of that.

I'm still not getting the metadata issue. You can add titles and images to your projects which are viewable during playback. I'm sure you know that. Perhaps it's a misunderstanding of the definition of titles and images. What software allows you to add things to the META directory before it is even created?

I won't pretend to remember all the changes since v12 and don't have time to chase it. The more significant ones were made up through v2015. For instance, they added the ability to export more than one clip at once in v2015 (I believe). They have made a few fixes since v12 but not as many as people would like. v2016 was window dressing and v2017 wasn't much more. You've already mentioned the 4k support and then there is the HEVC support. Does v2018 add anything significant- it's depends on what people do and like. Of course, a person new to Nero wouldn't know the difference.

There has been no subtitle support since v10 (?, the years are passing by) so I wouldn't hold my breath on ever seeing that again.

I don't think it's beyond Nero. The technology was there. There has to be a reason they dropped them. Could be something similar to the lawsuit over HD audio that they lost. Roxio seems to be in step with Nero on a number of these issues. If Cyberlink is still supporting subtitles, it might be a licensing fee issue since the cost of a Cyberlink equivalent of a Nero Platinum suite is higher. I think Nero could still have the HD audio or blu-ray player option if one wanted to pay significantly more for the privilege. At one time, the cost of the Blu-ray player plug-in was $30 US unless one purchased Platinum at a higher cost than what it is routinely offered for these days.