Hi everyone i have began my journy into the world of computer programming.

And boy oh boy is java lokking like a big scary monster. lol

but patience will i believe win the way forward.

my goal is to be certified in java,c++, visual basic 2008

andto do this in 4 years or less i hope this is acheivable???

i would like some imput from you guys if you think all that is to much

my main question if ok let say i become a java certified programmer on paper and then go hunting for a job i want to go into something hot and new like cellphone software or something

i really need your help as i dont know were java can take me inreguards to different fields of applications

thank you very much
:)

12-19-2009, 11:14 PM

Fubarable

Hello and welcome to the forum. For your question, anything is achievable if you have the aptitude, the fortitude and the dedication. I would suggest that you attack these things one at a time, though.

12-19-2009, 11:32 PM

kungfu

if i learn all these that will make me more desireable to any employer correct
(and lotsof money)lol lol:p

and could you tell me what area of study in java(ie web, cell phone apps.so on and so on) is really the one to aim for if high salary and exciting fast pace delelopment is what i am gunning for

thanks so much

12-20-2009, 06:18 AM

gcampton

I would also add to that, unix scripting, and being comfortable on a unix box as well as windows/mac.

And for programming you also want some database knowledge. So SQL it up, postgres, access, etc.

12-20-2009, 09:57 AM

kungfu

any one of those databases looking more popular than the others

and i have heard of unix but how much is a unix box??

this is basically how far i have came in java after 1 week its just a simple program

If you want to play with databases have a look in your C:\Program Files directory; when you installed Java you also installed Derby (or JavaDB) in the directory C:\Program Files\Sun. It's a database entirely written in Java; it supports the full SQL language, multi tasks/users and the whole shebang; of course it has a JDBC binding and it comes for free. Oh, the extensive documentation is also stored in that directory; have fun with it.

kind regards,

Jos

ps. Linux is an open source, free implementation of Unix; you'll find thousands of links on the internet.

12-20-2009, 05:01 PM

kungfu

i downloaded microsoft SQL 2008 but every time i open import export data wizard has stoped working and it terminates it says it has stoped working any hints guys lol

12-20-2009, 05:09 PM

Char

Quote:

Originally Posted by kungfu

any one of those databases looking more popular than the others

and i have heard of unix but how much is a unix box??

this is basically how far i have came in java after 1 week its just a simple program

on top of all the pile i have already
i dont know enough about java to know what career field to go into that would suit my personallity or interests but right now all i am taking at the moment is visual basic and java through netbeans i want first to get my certifications in those two before tackling anything else lol

12-20-2009, 06:18 PM

Fubarable

Quote:

Originally Posted by Char

i belive its possible in 4 years if you find programming interesting
***, you could do it even faster
if you are just doing this as a must, i believe you can't do it

Very true. If you get the bug, it can take over your life. If not, it will be nothing but drudgery.

12-20-2009, 06:26 PM

kungfu

what sort of qualifications will i need to say go into working on

next generation internet applications

of netwrok apps

or mobile phone apps through java is that right
these look very interesting
i am trying to find the top 10 programming jobs somwhere on the net but cant find a list
real sorry for all these questions guys
i really appriciate this

Perhaps you may be getting way ahead yourself here. It's like a high school student wondering which sub-branch of neurosurgery he should do. If you were my grasshopper, I'd suggest that you first learn the basics, see if you have the aptitude and desire, and then you'll be better able to examine these questions.

Much luck!

12-20-2009, 07:26 PM

kungfu

in that link joash posted that professer start with python than go to java is this a smart move
thanks guys

12-20-2009, 07:35 PM

coltragon

i can program python, but it's not helping me much with learning java.
because i have a lot of struggling at the moment.

btw, this forum has a chatbox? than you could get live help from more advanced users? that would be really cool :)

12-20-2009, 07:38 PM

kungfu

holy crap a chat box dude im in thanks man

12-20-2009, 07:43 PM

kungfu

were is this chat box dud thanks mate

12-21-2009, 03:37 AM

gcampton

There is no chatbox I'm aware of......

"how much is a unix box ?"

depends how much you want to spend, $free, $10, $20... tops

grab any old computer from a wreckers and install linux on it....

or even better, just install virtualbox (free) which is also developed by sun microsystems and install linux/bsd/solaris on a virtual machine, that runs right off windows.

Really what language you start off with doesn't matter too much but I will suggest you start with either java and/or c++ as they are both object oriented languages and at low level console programming are both very easy. They both make sense to learn at the same time as they use very similar ideas and use of code. So long as you remember (headers = javadocs)

As far as unix, database, and the rest don't worry about these until you have the basics down