posted at 10:35 pm on February 4, 2010 by Allahpundit

The exciting conclusion to last night’s back-slapping session. Just two quick notes. One: That’s a cute point he makes about the progression (or non-progression) from Richard Reid to Abdulmutallab over the course of eight years, but what about Madrid, the London bombings, or even the NYC subway plot that was busted in September? He’s either awfully ill informed or awfully glib about the severity of the threat. Two: Laying aside his bizarre shrugging at nuclear proliferation among jihadist states, in which dimension of reality did he discover that Iran is reliably, conclusively, indubitably “self-preservationist”? Given the regime’s intent on maintaining its own power at all costs, including by murdering protesters, there’s no reason to think it wouldn’t do something rash if it felt that power slipping from its fingers. What does it have to lose by firing a missile at Israel under those circumstances?

I was taken back by his cavalier attitude when it comes to Iran, and Israel. I don’t know why. I guess I should get it thru my head, that some don’t feel a comraderie towards our ally anymore. They chose liberal, over their heritage.

I understood when he said there was nothing he could do about it. Neither can I. But I wouldn’t forsake an ally over it either. And it’s easy to sit, and critize Bush, and Republicans, and such for their choices….and say you know what SHOULD be done. But would he be willing to take up arms, and put his money where his mouth is? Doubtful.

Why does Jon Stewart hate Israel? No really, can someone please explain that to me?

ornery_independent on February 4, 2010 at 10:53 PM

he’s Jewish!? and I think (!), I may be wrong, but a lot of Jewish folk may have some self loathing thing going on that’s really difficult to understand. Jews are chronically known (see Bible) for continuously making poor decisions, over and over again and have served as an example for the rest of us for what not to do. Eventually, they will be restored to Israel and to God. see Jeremiah.

O’reilly wants people to rate the interview I give it an “F”. In fairness, it probably deserves a “D” but Stewarts smug sarcasm and O’reilly’s sloppy attempts at humoring him just got to me personally.

If he doesn’t want to challenge Stewart on anything, that’s fine, at least get him to state where he stands on all the issues, remind him of potential conseqeunces to his stances and see how he responds. As stupid as the whole VEEP line of questioning was, I thought it had real potential to show Stewart as the raging liberal ideologue he is but O’reilly gave him too much room to squirm out of it if ever challenged in the future.

He supports rebuilding our energy infrastructure? The only follow up O’reilly had to this evasive and innocuous answer was “so you support Green energy”? What about Cap and Trade, how it failed in Europe and how it will cost individual households thousands of dollars and decrease our nation’s GDP? Anything?

Stewart also made a comment supporting Obama for bringing back government’s “regulatory mechanism” and used checking to see if lead is in our toys as an example for how good this is. What about the bank tax and how mayor Bloomberg said it could jeopardize the western world as the center of finance or how it could bring us back to failed depression era policies? LEAD IN TOYS are you kidding me? We’re on the verge of nationalizing our banks and shifting labor from the private sector to the public sector. Challenge him at least a bit on that O’reilly.

Then there is Iran. Man Stewart is a moron, lets just forget that Iran has shown aggression in the past and expressed interest in blowing Israel off the map, lets forget that the Jewish people who actually live in that region overwhelmingly oppose Obama’s policies and oppose a nuclear Iran; let us forget that for a moment as Stewart does and focus on his comment that “the problem isn’t the country that gets them, the problem is the weapon…”. This is typical liberal 18 year old undergraduate thinking, the type of people that advocated unilateral disarmament during the Cold War. There is nothing wrong with having this weapon because possessing it almost ensures that we will never be conquered by a foreign power. We may lose a war but they will never occupy us on own soil because we have the ultimate weapon to ward them off. Of course, I don’t expect the man who called Harry Truman a war criminal for using it to think all that deeply when it comes to end game scenarios. O’reilly could have challenged this misguided idealism of his, he also could have reminded him about the A.Q. Khan Network operating out of Pakistan, a country Stewart listed as seemingly harmless, which traded secrets with not just North Korea but Iran and Libya as well. There goes your whole theory about it “not being the country that is the problem” you hunched over twat. Allowing Iran to have nukes would be disastrous, especially in this age of terror (oh excusee, Stewart probably prefers the phrase “age of man made disasters”). It would be just like allowing leftist Central and South American countries to obtain nuclear weapons during the height of the Cold War when Sovietism was in fashion. O’reilly could have said SOMETHING about this. I’m not saying badger the guy, even though he has no problem doing this to people on his own show, but methodically pick him apart with your questioning so he has several more embarassing yet revealing “Harry Truman is a War Criminal” moments. This man is nothing without his writers and teleprompter to prop him up like the corpse in Weekend at Bernies.

I’ll quote Dennis Prager on this issue “For the left liberalism is their religion.”

terryannonline on February 4, 2010 at 11:05 PM

I was born and raised in a conservative reformed-Jewish family.
At the Hebrew school I attended in the fall of 1980, my family wasn’t considered to be ‘really’ Jewish because: my parents really didn’t look Jewish, we were lower-middle class, we lost very few relatives in the Shoah, and my parents not only voted for Reagan-they actively campaigned for him. I turned 10 less than two weeks before the election and yet adults felt the need to express this to me.
My father used to say that the problem with liberal Jews was that they had a “ghetto”(the European variety) mentality.

If Iran gets nukes we can at least be assured that it won’t keep them long but use them to kill as many people as possible in sacrifice to their god allah. After that, Iran will simply cease to exist as a nation/state. It will be reduced to a smoldering heap of sand, molten glass, and burned out hulks of cities.

The late Representative Tom Lantos as a Jewish teenager in Budapest had been an ARMED runner/courier for Raoul Wallenberg. When he got elected to the House-this Holocaust survivor became one of Congress’s biggest gun-grabbers-never mind that if more Jews had been armed-more Jews would have survived!
Like my dad said: “ghetto mentality”.

The self-preservation angle is ludicrous on the face of it. These are the same people whose single greatest goal is martyrdom and who are led by a zealot who is on record wishing to create the conditions necessary to facilitate the ascension of the 12th Imam and all the rest of that rot. Self-immolation is admired by these freaks, for crying out loud.

Stewart is like a teenager who never grew up (well liberals in general are like that). His answers are stupid, shallow, ill-conceived. Pin him on a serious question he can’t answer, he’ll dodge or make a joke or go on the offensive.

The reason Iran is a greater threat than Pakistan presently (even though they already have nukes) is that Pakistan has not openly or repeatedly declared their intention to destroy Israel and America, while Iran has.

Pakistan as evil, corrupt and backwards as the country is, still values its own preservation so they’re less likely to use them or pass them onto terrorists (for now-but that can easily change if the “radicals” take over).

Iran also has stated they’re willing to “martyr” 10 million of their fellow muslims in a nuclear counter-attack by Israel if it results in the destruction of the Jewish state. Let’s also not forget the muslim refrain of “we love death more than the infidels (non-muslims) love life.”

The doctrine of M.A.D. (which worked with the Soviets-since while they were evil commies but were still sane and valued life), does not work on crazed religious psychopaths (muslims) who desire death and think they’ll go to heaven by killing as many of us before we kill them.

When they call America “the great satan” and Israel “the small satan”, they mean that literally. This is not just part of their theocratic mindset but state doctrine as well.

Pakistan will eventually have to be dealt with too-their nukes which were obtained illegally must be expropriated, but Iran is a much bigger priority right now.

Stewart completely missed the point, dismissing a few dozen terrorists as a non-threat. Well 9-11 was carried out by a handful of men and yet they killed 3,000 people and lead us into 2 wars. Imagine how much worse it would be if they had nukes Stewart and that is still a very real possibility. They clearly have a determination to destroy us, the more powerful the weapons at their disposal the happier they are.

The irony of our highly technological age is that it only takes a few people to kill millions. Nukes smuggled into US cities or an EMP pulse detonated above the continent will easily destroy the country. Once America has fallen, there is not much standing in the way of global Islamic conquest.

No muslim country should ever be allowed access to WMDs. Their entire religion (medieval death cult) is geared towards converting, subjugating or killing all of us and Islamifying the world. These religious Nazis have been successfully waging their jihad again non-muslims for 1400 years, they must be stopped.

I think that your comment about a muslim country ever having WMDs is, well, c’mon. Pakistan is nearly muslim and ever is a long, long time.

Second Israel has what, 300 to 400 nukes? And a great military. Except that we keep fighting their wars for them, they can take care of themselves, thank you very much. And they will.

But to the cases here, Stewart is not gonna let some chance of nutty muslims vaporizing a large number of people interfere with his banking the hundreds of millions he wants to earn or having a good time with his show. Let Dick Cheny and you worry about that. The possibility of his dying is very remote and he knows it.

Last, this interview, and Jon are really about the ratings. You had two loveable (ok, marketable) personalities up there who go after viewers like a housewife killing ants. Gotta get them all!

And as for the content of the interview, well, one hand washes the other, doesn’t it?

The genius analysis here?

Romeo13 on February 5, 2010 at 1:18 AM

But did you have to use the m word? You are as puerile as Stewart! Just more perceptive.

I thought that the interview was one of the poorer ones that Bill O’Reilly has done. O’Reilly did not press Stewart on Stewart’s lefty views but allowed Stewart to escape confrontation with humor, and worse, O’Reilly said some very stupid things.

For example, for O’Reilly to say basically that he was against the Iraq War too was STUPID. My older son, now a US Army Captain spent two tours of duty in Iraq (one as an infantry platoon leader), and we have accomplished something very good in the removal of a terrorist supporting, murderous thug in Saddam who once had WMDs but got rid of them and who was intent on having WMDs again to use, as he used nerve gas against the Kurds, and in creating the conditions for the Iraqi people to to elect their own democratic government operating under a democratically adopted written Constitution, which is a model for other Muslims in the area, including those Iranian dissidents we should be supporting. Our military performed brilliantly in Iraq, and that should always be said.

Amazing how Nations that actually understand that there isn’t a coming of the 12th Imam and have an understanding that having people left requires not using WMDs for fear of retaliation actually don’t use them. The man is clueless about how end-time belief comes to see individuals as disposable or, like Aum Shin Rikyo, actually are willing to start killing to make things ‘easier’ for the end times when they arrive. There are disturbing parallels between the nihilistic end-time belief structure of the elite powers in Iran and the death cult Aum… save that Aum knew it needed good finances and industrial capacity to do its work and leveraged a successful chain of PC stores to do that while the Iranian regime is clueless and has been destroying its infrastructure from day 1.

Both, however, have this very bad view of those around them as being dispensible, even necessary to dispense with them, when the ‘right time’ arrives. Aum jumped the gun and nearly had the entire anthrax dispersion system correct, including aerosol dispersal and were stopped by having the wrong strain of anthrax. Iran, for all its asinine views on economics and infrastructure maintenance, is willing to actually get fully working systems, first. If they were competent we would be here talking. Depending on incompetence to stop them from getting capability that is well known, described and merely an engineering and materials processing project is not a great idea.

Stewart has a minor point on proliferation, but you don’t stop that by giving end-time believing regimes a big PASS on confrontation. I always thought liberals were worried about nihilistic end-timers… until I listen to them… and hear about how great that wonderful, end-time, utopian future will be. Don’t mind the body count on getting there. Then I see Aum all over, again.

Saw the broadcast last night, also. Thought Stewart was lame, again. As so many others have said, when he is given a hard question, he either turns to comic schtick or uses shallow sophomoric arguments to deflect, and/or then answers a question that wasn’t asked. It reminded me of discussions I had with the more articulate VN war protestors back in the 1960’s. Their answers were always shallow and evasive, and they would always revert to their ‘talking points’ when pressed and repeat, repeat, repeat. Modern version: “Bush lied, People died” “It’s all our fault” etc. Stewart is an immature, intellectual lightweight.

I love Jon Stewart – and I DO watch The Daily Show – he is an equal opportunity attacker – both the left and the right – and anyone who does not know that, does not watch his show. He’s a great comedian – why worry about his political views – he’s a comedian. I honestly find him more interesting then BOR – but I give O’Reilly credit for sitting across from a man with 10 times the wit of Bill himself. That’s proven every time he has Dennis Miller on – and cannot keep up with the wit of Miller.

It’s a toss up as to which of these two entertainment industry personalities is more superficial. Stewart believes in global warming because he has no reason not to. (it’s apparently too much work to read the evidence against this theory). He says the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are bankrupting us, yet he supports Obama ans his runaway deficits which are in reality a war on the American economy.

O’Reilly gave up on Iraq when it got tough. He doesn’t remember why we went there and pretends he was against the war from the outset. He apparently would rather that Iraq be pursuing nuclear weapons. He is oblivious to the fact Iraq under Hussein would still be training and harboring terrorists. It’s painful that anyone as poorly informed as O’Reilly is viewed a conservative. He’s a publicity seeking squish,

Jews are chronically known (see Bible) for continuously making poor decisions, over and over again and have served as an example for the rest of us for what not to do. Eventually, they will be restored to Israel and to God. see Jeremiah.

Jews are chronically known (see Bible) for continuously making poor decisions, over and over again and have served as an example for the rest of us for what not to do. Eventually, they will be restored to Israel and to God. see Jeremiah.

I will not watch Jon Stewart with Bill.
I will not watch him with Marc Lamont Hill.
I will not watch him then or now.
I will not watch him anyhow.
I will not watch him anymore.
I will not make his ratings soar!