An honest unusual discussion about firearms

Study Al Capone and the alcohol driven mafias of the Prohibition Era. They were plenty bloody. One of the tourist features of
Union Station in Kansas City is the site of the Kansas City massacre which saw the
violent gunning down of four law enforcement officers by criminals seeking to free a buddy of theirs being transported to Leavenworth.

The 1930s were a very violent era between rum rummers, the Mob, and the bank robbers in the Midwest.

If a concerted effort was put in place to eliminate firearms, then even in urban areas, the death rate would surely decrease.

There would still be multiple issues regarding inner cites, but deaths by firearms would be reduced.

If that were true, then you wouldn't have the UK talking about banning knives which have now become the weapon of choice for violent crime.

I think it does come back to violent people will be violent.

There was a highly publicized road rage incident coming out of my neck of the woods where in older man who had served time for murder stabbed a
23-year-old to death and fled the scene. No guns, but he was still murderously violent.

People still get murdered without guns just a lot less often.

The talk about tighter rules on knifes (not a ban) comes from an increase in stabbings in London. However overall homicide rate for London still
remains way behind that of the US.

Good lord you can't help yourself, can you? So many dramatic declarations about being done, but you keep coming back.

Still does not mean that it's right nor does it contribute anything to intelligent conversation.

It's the Mud-Pit. If you're going to insist on decorum, go to another forum. Mocking a loaded question is perfectly acceptable in this forum, whether
it offends you or not. If you can't come up with an intelligent response to a comment that wasn't directed at you, perhaps you should simply ignore
it.

The fact you're defending it so hard is proof positive that it is your only intention on this website - to silence and mock. Your desire to mock
people says everything I need to know about you.

The fact that you're continuing to make things up about me so that you can attack me for them is proof that you're consistent about employing
fallacies in an effort to be right about something. The fact that in one comment you manage to both acknowledge that I mocked a question but then go
on to claim I attacked a member is proof that you're utterly incapable of creating a rational, factual argument and would instead rather continue to
focus your white-knight efforts on attacking me over things you're making up.

In Australia, knives have outpaced guns used in homicide for decades, including for years before the gun laws were changed. While the gun laws have,
arguably, lowered the number of homicide by firearms the number of homicide by knife hasn't really changed much other than year to year fluctuation.

You're the one that keeps coming back to it after you say you're done with it. Is this the part of your "tactic" where you keep things going by
endlessly giving us your personal opinion about me in the hopes that eventually I'll wander off, at which point you can interpret the lack of response
as a victory for yourself?

But if you went back in time and gave each of their members modern guns, would they kill more or fewer people?

They would have killed period. I always wonder why we do not set a max speed of 35 across the country...it would save lives, would it not.

In the big picture we are talking about forcing safety scissors on the population because they can not walk/run with real scissors without hurting
themselves or others, or at least that is what many/Government think.

We can bubble boy everyone up all nicely, and still people are going to kill each other. I have always said that a truck is much more dangerous than a
gun if a person wanted to mass kill.

It takes committment to kill someone up close and personal, or at least i'd imagine. I loathe conflict, and certainly have no desire to ever
experience the gruesome. I'd assume that most people who are normal feel the same way.

Any projectile makes that a bit easier, psychologically. Gun, arrow, sling with a ball bearing. Maybe even an ignition button. You do it over here,
they die over there...much easier psychologically. No doubt.

See now you've gone and proven you cannot read correctly. I CLEARLY said "you" not "the thread" when I said "I shall not be continuing further
with YOU"

Heeeey, great! You finally caught up! Yes, you said you were done engaging with me, multiple times. If I was unclear when I said "you said you were
done" it was because I presumed you would recall saying you were done engaging with me more than once, so I didn't need to specify exactly what
you were done with. Not once did I say you had claimed to be done with the thread, because that's not what you said. I'm glad you got yourself caught
up with that.

Got any more nonsense to have a whinge about?

I think you're confusing yourself on who said what again. One of us has consistently whined about the words of the other, making things up that
weren't even said in the process. One of us has consistently pointed out the fallacies employed by the other. (Here's a hint since you seem to have
already confused yourself again: I'm the second guy. That should narrow down which of us is the first guy)

Or are you going to go off and mock some more people?

Are you going to keep saying you're not going to engage with me but then continue to do so? Are you going to keep making things up, to the extent that
you contradict yourself within the same comments?

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