What kind of democracy is this when only generally approved people can take part in it?

While I'm also guilty of ignoring certain groups and people and therefore would never have seen the video Loz posted, this video alerted me to the behaviour of the EU in this whole Brexit thing. It was a very objecitve speech in my opinion.

I've never ignored 'certain groups. In fact, I've followed them a little more than is probably healthy, going back to to the days when you mainly encountered them on the football terraces of British football matches in the 1970s. NF, Column 88, Combat 18, Grey Wolves, etc... They're the 'politics' of angry young men who have resorted to aggression, violence, intimidation and intolerance as a form of political expression.

I've seen it first hand, face to face, on too many occasions to count. I've seen a house in my street repeatedly daubed with BNP slogans before being torched with 5 occupants inside, so forgive me for having an exceptionally low threshold when I move to a highly civilised nation and see the same toxic views espoused here by someone from my own country. It makes me puke. It's a cancer in society that will never go away, but that doesn't mean that you stop fighting it for a second, and it definitely doesn't mean that you legitimise it. They might wear suits these days, but that's just "putting lipstick on the pig".

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Think she's suggesting to play the man, not the ball. Even if the man has spent the entire game kicking and racially abusing you.

You're not suggesting a sliding tackle, are you?

Much as I would love to stay and re-enact Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's exceptional '99 Man Utd vs Bayern Munich performance, I have a pressing engagement this afternoon. Funny how certain goals take you back the exact time, place and friends you were with when you watched the match. Can even remember drinking Diamond White (classy) and nervously peeling the label off the bottle. I digress...

p.s. There was a sweet little piece on Newsnight last night about Russian backing for an AfD election campaign. It's been enough to send J.Rees-Mogg scuttling off into his corner over retweeting an AfD thing this week. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47822835

If a long extension leaves us stuck in the EU we should be as difficult as possible. We could veto any increase in the budget, obstruct the putative EU army and block Mr Macron’s integrationist schemes.

His tweet has been labelled a glorious self own because plenty of people have been only too happy to point out the error of his ways.

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How strange - isn’t this the same guy who said the UK had no power to do any of these things in the EU and that’s why we had to leave?

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Brexiters: the UK is powerless as an EU Member State
Also Brexiters: the UK can block loads of stuff as an EU Member State

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Inside the EU we have control. The power to veto budget increases and block changes that are not in the interests of our country. Just ask Jacob Rees-Mogg.

So that link is useless. My post was non of: personal attacks, abusive comments, trolling and single agenda posts". It was however a robust response to someone inferring that to post a video of an elected AfD politician giving a speech in the Bundestag is indirectly supporting their entire agenda together with NF, Combat 18 etc.