She said if the speed limit had been 50mph last year at the time of the crash, the minibus driver who ran over Jade after she was knocked off her scooter might have seen her and stopped.

“It is nice to know that people feel the same way we do about this,” she said, after presenting the petition to the town council meeting.

“Had that driver been doing 50mph he would have been able to brake in time.

“It is a very dangerous bit of road with cars switching lanes and pulling out of side roads into 70mph traffic.

“I hope someone will take notice of this petition and it won’t be brushed under the carpet. I don’t want anyone else to have to go through what I have gone through.”

Mayor Steve Rippon Swaine said the council would ask New Forest West MP Desmond Swayne to bring the petition to the attention of Minister for Transport Stephen Hammond.

He said they would continue pushing for improved signage on the route, which had been promised by the minister.

Last year the council called for a 50mph restriction between Picket Post and the roundabout but the Government turned it down, saying only three per cent of the accidents that occurred there were due to speeding.

One might consider the wit and wisdom of taking a moped into lane three of the road at this point. Yes, it was legal, and it would be legal to ride a bicycle in the same manner, but mixing with 70mph traffic on a machine restricted to 30mph was ill-advised.

This is not to excuse the actions of Brian Hampton, hitting her and her machine, and the catalogue of deception that followed.

Reducing the speed limit would reduce the utility of the road.
One might consider the wit and wisdom of taking a moped into lane three of the road at this point. Yes, it was legal, and it would be legal to ride a bicycle in the same manner, but mixing with 70mph traffic on a machine restricted to 30mph was ill-advised.
This is not to excuse the actions of Brian Hampton, hitting her and her machine, and the catalogue of deception that followed.From the sidelines

From the sidelines wrote:
Reducing the speed limit would reduce the utility of the road.

One might consider the wit and wisdom of taking a moped into lane three of the road at this point. Yes, it was legal, and it would be legal to ride a bicycle in the same manner, but mixing with 70mph traffic on a machine restricted to 30mph was ill-advised.

This is not to excuse the actions of Brian Hampton, hitting her and her machine, and the catalogue of deception that followed.

It would make more sense to campaign for the A31 to be reclassified as a Motorway up to the Ashley Heath roundabout to prevent Learner drivers straying on to it.

[quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote:
Reducing the speed limit would reduce the utility of the road.
One might consider the wit and wisdom of taking a moped into lane three of the road at this point. Yes, it was legal, and it would be legal to ride a bicycle in the same manner, but mixing with 70mph traffic on a machine restricted to 30mph was ill-advised.
This is not to excuse the actions of Brian Hampton, hitting her and her machine, and the catalogue of deception that followed.[/p][/quote]It would make more sense to campaign for the A31 to be reclassified as a Motorway up to the Ashley Heath roundabout to prevent Learner drivers straying on to it.Torchie1

From the sidelines wrote:
Reducing the speed limit would reduce the utility of the road.

One might consider the wit and wisdom of taking a moped into lane three of the road at this point. Yes, it was legal, and it would be legal to ride a bicycle in the same manner, but mixing with 70mph traffic on a machine restricted to 30mph was ill-advised.

This is not to excuse the actions of Brian Hampton, hitting her and her machine, and the catalogue of deception that followed.

If what you say is true about her being in lane three then even reducing the limit to fifty would do no good and begs the question why when there is no right turn for miles. Was it just something she'd learnt from somewhere that as soon as you get on that road you move to the outside lane, an all to familiar scenario from my observations. Unfortunately, as in many cases now, there are no alternative routes for slower vehicles without extremely long and time consuming detours.

[quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote:
Reducing the speed limit would reduce the utility of the road.
One might consider the wit and wisdom of taking a moped into lane three of the road at this point. Yes, it was legal, and it would be legal to ride a bicycle in the same manner, but mixing with 70mph traffic on a machine restricted to 30mph was ill-advised.
This is not to excuse the actions of Brian Hampton, hitting her and her machine, and the catalogue of deception that followed.[/p][/quote]If what you say is true about her being in lane three then even reducing the limit to fifty would do no good and begs the question why when there is no right turn for miles. Was it just something she'd learnt from somewhere that as soon as you get on that road you move to the outside lane, an all to familiar scenario from my observations. Unfortunately, as in many cases now, there are no alternative routes for slower vehicles without extremely long and time consuming detours.befriendly

As I have said before there is no viable alternative route. Perhaps a little service road could be added (like in many towns e.g Millbrook Road) so locals without cars and lorries can safely exit Ringwood in a westerly direction without going 12 miles out of their way

As I have said before there is no viable alternative route. Perhaps a little service road could be added (like in many towns e.g Millbrook Road) so locals without cars and lorries can safely exit Ringwood in a westerly direction without going 12 miles out of their waySilvanDryad

From the sidelines wrote:
Reducing the speed limit would reduce the utility of the road.

One might consider the wit and wisdom of taking a moped into lane three of the road at this point. Yes, it was legal, and it would be legal to ride a bicycle in the same manner, but mixing with 70mph traffic on a machine restricted to 30mph was ill-advised.

This is not to excuse the actions of Brian Hampton, hitting her and her machine, and the catalogue of deception that followed.

If what you say is true about her being in lane three then even reducing the limit to fifty would do no good and begs the question why when there is no right turn for miles. Was it just something she'd learnt from somewhere that as soon as you get on that road you move to the outside lane, an all to familiar scenario from my observations. Unfortunately, as in many cases now, there are no alternative routes for slower vehicles without extremely long and time consuming detours.

As far as I am aware, from the reports of the crash and court case, the road at this point is 4 lanes wide, two lanes straight on and two turning left. Therefore, any traffic going straight on has to be in lane 3 or 4.

Restricted mopeds and cyclists included.

This is very poor provision, if there is no alternative.

[quote][p][bold]befriendly[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote:
Reducing the speed limit would reduce the utility of the road.
One might consider the wit and wisdom of taking a moped into lane three of the road at this point. Yes, it was legal, and it would be legal to ride a bicycle in the same manner, but mixing with 70mph traffic on a machine restricted to 30mph was ill-advised.
This is not to excuse the actions of Brian Hampton, hitting her and her machine, and the catalogue of deception that followed.[/p][/quote]If what you say is true about her being in lane three then even reducing the limit to fifty would do no good and begs the question why when there is no right turn for miles. Was it just something she'd learnt from somewhere that as soon as you get on that road you move to the outside lane, an all to familiar scenario from my observations. Unfortunately, as in many cases now, there are no alternative routes for slower vehicles without extremely long and time consuming detours.[/p][/quote]As far as I am aware, from the reports of the crash and court case, the road at this point is 4 lanes wide, two lanes straight on and two turning left. Therefore, any traffic going straight on has to be in lane 3 or 4.
Restricted mopeds and cyclists included.
This is very poor provision, if there is no alternative.From the sidelines

Reducing speed limits won't work. Addressing the issue of pedestrians crossing and mopeds/cyclists using would. The other day I was overtaken at speed with horn and gestures. My "crime"? - doing slightly under 30 on Burgess road!!.Too many motorists are not interested in driving safely or inside the law,

Reducing speed limits won't work. Addressing the issue of pedestrians crossing and mopeds/cyclists using would. The other day I was overtaken at speed with horn and gestures. My "crime"? - doing slightly under 30 on Burgess road!!.Too many motorists are not interested in driving safely or inside the law,tootle

From the sidelines wrote:
Reducing the speed limit would reduce the utility of the road.

One might consider the wit and wisdom of taking a moped into lane three of the road at this point. Yes, it was legal, and it would be legal to ride a bicycle in the same manner, but mixing with 70mph traffic on a machine restricted to 30mph was ill-advised.

This is not to excuse the actions of Brian Hampton, hitting her and her machine, and the catalogue of deception that followed.

"Wit & wisdom" isn't always found on a 16 year old, end of the day this was an accident. A combination of circumstances and although the man well deserves his sentence he is guilty of a lack of concentration.

This poor young girl would not of considered the dangers of her slow speed, I struggled with the decision to allow my child to have a de-restricted bike as I was torn between knowing 30mph makes you vulnerable and the dangers of speed and inexperience.

Jades parents should feel no guilt for letting her have a moped which I am sure she loved. It is a very sad situation and 50mph should start as you come down poulner hill and continue along to wimborne, that said this could of happened at 50 mph as well.

[quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote:
Reducing the speed limit would reduce the utility of the road.
One might consider the wit and wisdom of taking a moped into lane three of the road at this point. Yes, it was legal, and it would be legal to ride a bicycle in the same manner, but mixing with 70mph traffic on a machine restricted to 30mph was ill-advised.
This is not to excuse the actions of Brian Hampton, hitting her and her machine, and the catalogue of deception that followed.[/p][/quote]"Wit & wisdom" isn't always found on a 16 year old, end of the day this was an accident. A combination of circumstances and although the man well deserves his sentence he is guilty of a lack of concentration.
This poor young girl would not of considered the dangers of her slow speed, I struggled with the decision to allow my child to have a de-restricted bike as I was torn between knowing 30mph makes you vulnerable and the dangers of speed and inexperience.
Jades parents should feel no guilt for letting her have a moped which I am sure she loved. It is a very sad situation and 50mph should start as you come down poulner hill and continue along to wimborne, that said this could of happened at 50 mph as well.issacchunt

tootle wrote:
Reducing speed limits won't work. Addressing the issue of pedestrians crossing and mopeds/cyclists using would. The other day I was overtaken at speed with horn and gestures. My &quot;crime"? - doing slightly under 30 on Burgess road!!.Too many motorists are not interested in driving safely or inside the law,

Get yourself a car video camera and use it like I do. Any one overtaking a car doing just under 30mph in Burgess Road is guilty of dangerous driving at any time of the day.

[quote][p][bold]tootle[/bold] wrote:
Reducing speed limits won't work. Addressing the issue of pedestrians crossing and mopeds/cyclists using would. The other day I was overtaken at speed with horn and gestures. My "crime"? - doing slightly under 30 on Burgess road!!.Too many motorists are not interested in driving safely or inside the law,[/p][/quote]Get yourself a car video camera and use it like I do. Any one overtaking a car doing just under 30mph in Burgess Road is guilty of dangerous driving at any time of the day.Inform Al

I wasn't aware excessive or inappropriate speed was a contributory cause in this tragic case so I struggle to understand why the family want a reduction in the speed limit. Calling for tougher penalties for hit and run drivers though would have been a more worthwhile cause for the family to campaign for.

Inform Al - such utter nonsense.

I wasn't aware excessive or inappropriate speed was a contributory cause in this tragic case so I struggle to understand why the family want a reduction in the speed limit. Calling for tougher penalties for hit and run drivers though would have been a more worthwhile cause for the family to campaign for.
Inform Al - such utter nonsense.Snowfox84

Snowfox84 wrote:
I wasn't aware excessive or inappropriate speed was a contributory cause in this tragic case so I struggle to understand why the family want a reduction in the speed limit. Calling for tougher penalties for hit and run drivers though would have been a more worthwhile cause for the family to campaign for.

Inform Al - such utter nonsense.

Why?

[quote][p][bold]Snowfox84[/bold] wrote:
I wasn't aware excessive or inappropriate speed was a contributory cause in this tragic case so I struggle to understand why the family want a reduction in the speed limit. Calling for tougher penalties for hit and run drivers though would have been a more worthwhile cause for the family to campaign for.
Inform Al - such utter nonsense.[/p][/quote]Why?Inform Al

Snowfox84 wrote:
I wasn't aware excessive or inappropriate speed was a contributory cause in this tragic case so I struggle to understand why the family want a reduction in the speed limit. Calling for tougher penalties for hit and run drivers though would have been a more worthwhile cause for the family to campaign for.

Inform Al - such utter nonsense.

Why?

"Why"? Because you've gone off on your own personal totally irrelevant point. Wtf.

[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Snowfox84[/bold] wrote:
I wasn't aware excessive or inappropriate speed was a contributory cause in this tragic case so I struggle to understand why the family want a reduction in the speed limit. Calling for tougher penalties for hit and run drivers though would have been a more worthwhile cause for the family to campaign for.
Inform Al - such utter nonsense.[/p][/quote]Why?[/p][/quote]"Why"? Because you've gone off on your own personal totally irrelevant point. Wtf.issacchunt

Snowfox84 wrote:
I wasn't aware excessive or inappropriate speed was a contributory cause in this tragic case so I struggle to understand why the family want a reduction in the speed limit. Calling for tougher penalties for hit and run drivers though would have been a more worthwhile cause for the family to campaign for.

Inform Al - such utter nonsense.

Why?

&quot;Why"? Because you've gone off on your own personal totally irrelevant point. Wtf.

Why?! Exactly what issacchunt said (thank you btw) and because you clearly don't understand the law on dangerous driving. This case had nothing to do with reckless speeding but yet again people on this thread and Jade's family make speed the issue.

[quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Snowfox84[/bold] wrote:
I wasn't aware excessive or inappropriate speed was a contributory cause in this tragic case so I struggle to understand why the family want a reduction in the speed limit. Calling for tougher penalties for hit and run drivers though would have been a more worthwhile cause for the family to campaign for.
Inform Al - such utter nonsense.[/p][/quote]Why?[/p][/quote]"Why"? Because you've gone off on your own personal totally irrelevant point. Wtf.[/p][/quote]Why?! Exactly what issacchunt said (thank you btw) and because you clearly don't understand the law on dangerous driving. This case had nothing to do with reckless speeding but yet again people on this thread and Jade's family make speed the issue.Snowfox84

Snowfox84 wrote:
I wasn't aware excessive or inappropriate speed was a contributory cause in this tragic case so I struggle to understand why the family want a reduction in the speed limit. Calling for tougher penalties for hit and run drivers though would have been a more worthwhile cause for the family to campaign for.

Inform Al - such utter nonsense.

Why?

&quot;Why"? Because you've gone off on your own personal totally irrelevant point. Wtf.

Why?! Exactly what issacchunt said (thank you btw) and because you clearly don't understand the law on dangerous driving. This case had nothing to do with reckless speeding but yet again people on this thread and Jade's family make speed the issue.

I fully support Jades mother, and far from going off on my own thing was actually responding to a post. If you knew the road mentioned in that post you would know that apart from three traffic lights where there are short two lane systems the road is far too constricted to safely overtake a car doing nearly 30mph. My personal view on the road where Jade was killed is that it needs a complete redesign, and enforced speed restrictions.

[quote][p][bold]Snowfox84[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Snowfox84[/bold] wrote:
I wasn't aware excessive or inappropriate speed was a contributory cause in this tragic case so I struggle to understand why the family want a reduction in the speed limit. Calling for tougher penalties for hit and run drivers though would have been a more worthwhile cause for the family to campaign for.
Inform Al - such utter nonsense.[/p][/quote]Why?[/p][/quote]"Why"? Because you've gone off on your own personal totally irrelevant point. Wtf.[/p][/quote]Why?! Exactly what issacchunt said (thank you btw) and because you clearly don't understand the law on dangerous driving. This case had nothing to do with reckless speeding but yet again people on this thread and Jade's family make speed the issue.[/p][/quote]I fully support Jades mother, and far from going off on my own thing was actually responding to a post. If you knew the road mentioned in that post you would know that apart from three traffic lights where there are short two lane systems the road is far too constricted to safely overtake a car doing nearly 30mph. My personal view on the road where Jade was killed is that it needs a complete redesign, and enforced speed restrictions.Inform Al

Snowfox84 wrote:
I wasn't aware excessive or inappropriate speed was a contributory cause in this tragic case so I struggle to understand why the family want a reduction in the speed limit. Calling for tougher penalties for hit and run drivers though would have been a more worthwhile cause for the family to campaign for.

Inform Al - such utter nonsense.

Why?

&quot;Why"? Because you've gone off on your own personal totally irrelevant point. Wtf.

Why?! Exactly what issacchunt said (thank you btw) and because you clearly don't understand the law on dangerous driving. This case had nothing to do with reckless speeding but yet again people on this thread and Jade's family make speed the issue.

I fully support Jades mother, and far from going off on my own thing was actually responding to a post. If you knew the road mentioned in that post you would know that apart from three traffic lights where there are short two lane systems the road is far too constricted to safely overtake a car doing nearly 30mph. My personal view on the road where Jade was killed is that it needs a complete redesign, and enforced speed restrictions.

Psssst Inform Al... The tooth fairy doesn't exist, neither does Santa, oh and a speed limit is just an arbitrary number in a red circle.

[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Snowfox84[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Snowfox84[/bold] wrote:
I wasn't aware excessive or inappropriate speed was a contributory cause in this tragic case so I struggle to understand why the family want a reduction in the speed limit. Calling for tougher penalties for hit and run drivers though would have been a more worthwhile cause for the family to campaign for.
Inform Al - such utter nonsense.[/p][/quote]Why?[/p][/quote]"Why"? Because you've gone off on your own personal totally irrelevant point. Wtf.[/p][/quote]Why?! Exactly what issacchunt said (thank you btw) and because you clearly don't understand the law on dangerous driving. This case had nothing to do with reckless speeding but yet again people on this thread and Jade's family make speed the issue.[/p][/quote]I fully support Jades mother, and far from going off on my own thing was actually responding to a post. If you knew the road mentioned in that post you would know that apart from three traffic lights where there are short two lane systems the road is far too constricted to safely overtake a car doing nearly 30mph. My personal view on the road where Jade was killed is that it needs a complete redesign, and enforced speed restrictions.[/p][/quote]Psssst Inform Al... The tooth fairy doesn't exist, neither does Santa, oh and a speed limit is just an arbitrary number in a red circle.Snowfox84

Snowfox84 wrote:
I wasn't aware excessive or inappropriate speed was a contributory cause in this tragic case so I struggle to understand why the family want a reduction in the speed limit. Calling for tougher penalties for hit and run drivers though would have been a more worthwhile cause for the family to campaign for.

Inform Al - such utter nonsense.

Why?

&quot;Why"? Because you've gone off on your own personal totally irrelevant point. Wtf.

Why?! Exactly what issacchunt said (thank you btw) and because you clearly don't understand the law on dangerous driving. This case had nothing to do with reckless speeding but yet again people on this thread and Jade's family make speed the issue.

I fully support Jades mother, and far from going off on my own thing was actually responding to a post. If you knew the road mentioned in that post you would know that apart from three traffic lights where there are short two lane systems the road is far too constricted to safely overtake a car doing nearly 30mph. My personal view on the road where Jade was killed is that it needs a complete redesign, and enforced speed restrictions.

Psssst Inform Al... The tooth fairy doesn't exist, neither does Santa, oh and a speed limit is just an arbitrary number in a red circle.

Grow up

[quote][p][bold]Snowfox84[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Snowfox84[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Snowfox84[/bold] wrote:
I wasn't aware excessive or inappropriate speed was a contributory cause in this tragic case so I struggle to understand why the family want a reduction in the speed limit. Calling for tougher penalties for hit and run drivers though would have been a more worthwhile cause for the family to campaign for.
Inform Al - such utter nonsense.[/p][/quote]Why?[/p][/quote]"Why"? Because you've gone off on your own personal totally irrelevant point. Wtf.[/p][/quote]Why?! Exactly what issacchunt said (thank you btw) and because you clearly don't understand the law on dangerous driving. This case had nothing to do with reckless speeding but yet again people on this thread and Jade's family make speed the issue.[/p][/quote]I fully support Jades mother, and far from going off on my own thing was actually responding to a post. If you knew the road mentioned in that post you would know that apart from three traffic lights where there are short two lane systems the road is far too constricted to safely overtake a car doing nearly 30mph. My personal view on the road where Jade was killed is that it needs a complete redesign, and enforced speed restrictions.[/p][/quote]Psssst Inform Al... The tooth fairy doesn't exist, neither does Santa, oh and a speed limit is just an arbitrary number in a red circle.[/p][/quote]Grow upInform Al