Strength and weight: How an untrained 42 year old allegedly choked out a purple belt

7/23/2017 10:20am,

Just a quick goofy thing I read on Reddit today.

Apparently an untrained and out of shape 42 year old software developer went to an introductory BJJ class where upon he took issue with the instructor saying "that strength and weight don't matter against technique".

Now this is an old debate that we all know the answer to: of course strength and weight help, skill can only get you so far (a skinny 5'3" vegetarian dude from New Jersey could train his whole life but still get eaten alive by Jake the Snake and his violating moustache).

Now our hero took exception to this understandably, he's a big guy at 205lbs (obvs the kind of intense muscle you can only get from long hours of programming and eating Findus 'Beef' Lasagne), and so he rightly challenges the instructor and then: "very slowly and carefully, and with a friendly smile, chocked him with his own gi".

Holy shit, I knew weight mattered in a fight but I didn't think an unexperienced gimp could choke out a Purple belt just because he was a fat fucker!

Forget training this week, I'm gonna shack myself up with several dozen pastries for a few days and see if I can't follow in my heros example. I'll be getting gold at ADCC before I know it, watch your back Claudio Calasans!

Anyway back to the story: "He obviously didn't want to tap out and started thrashing around. When the main instructor came and stopped it, my opponent said I was too agressive. My wife was blue belt and tapping out purple belts (different gym), when she quit because of BS going on in this scene."

Our hero finishes with quite the damning verdict on the art:"bjj is a game. A dangerous one, with lots of injuries, but does not really prepare for real life situations, due to 1-on-1 nature and lots of restrictions embedded in muscle memory to prevent injury to opponent. The real world is opposite."

Now I've been a lurker on this site for a long ass time so I've heard some shitty attacks on BJJ, but "restrictions embedded in muscle memory" might be the wackiest I've ever heard.

Now obviously our hero chooses the martial art fit only for a man of his intellectual prowess:

"I am personally partial for Russian Systema, use one inch punches to break wood, and no artificial sport restrictions BS"

What an argument, I might just be sold on this "Russian Systema"!

In all honesty the guy might just be fucking with everyone but deep down I want to believe he really thinks all this shit.

And bonus fact: apparently in his concealed carry bag he carries a portable toilet in case he gets stuck in traffic too long!

Apparently an untrained and out of shape 42 year old software developer went to an introductory BJJ class where upon he took issue with the instructor saying "that strength and weight don't matter against technique".

Now this is an old debate that we all know the answer to: of course strength and weight help, skill can only get you so far (a skinny 5'3" vegetarian dude from New Jersey could train his whole life but still get eaten alive by Jake the Snake and his violating moustache).

Now our hero took exception to this understandably, he's a big guy at 205lbs (obvs the kind of intense muscle you can only get from long hours of programming and eating Findus 'Beef' Lasagne), and so he rightly challenges the instructor and then: "very slowly and carefully, and with a friendly smile, chocked him with his own gi".

Holy shit, I knew weight mattered in a fight but I didn't think an unexperienced gimp could choke out a Purple belt just because he was a fat fucker!

Forget training this week, I'm gonna shack myself up with several dozen pastries for a few days and see if I can't follow in my heros example. I'll be getting gold at ADCC before I know it, watch your back Claudio Calasans!

Anyway back to the story: "He obviously didn't want to tap out and started thrashing around. When the main instructor came and stopped it, my opponent said I was too agressive. My wife was blue belt and tapping out purple belts (different gym), when she quit because of BS going on in this scene."

Our hero finishes with quite the damning verdict on the art:"bjj is a game. A dangerous one, with lots of injuries, but does not really prepare for real life situations, due to 1-on-1 nature and lots of restrictions embedded in muscle memory to prevent injury to opponent. The real world is opposite."

Now I've been a lurker on this site for a long ass time so I've heard some shitty attacks on BJJ, but "restrictions embedded in muscle memory" might be the wackiest I've ever heard.

Now obviously our hero chooses the martial art fit only for a man of his intellectual prowess:

"I am personally partial for Russian Systema, use one inch punches to break wood, and no artificial sport restrictions BS"

What an argument, I might just be sold on this "Russian Systema"!

In all honesty the guy might just be fucking with everyone but deep down I want to believe he really thinks all this shit.

And bonus fact: apparently in his concealed carry bag he carries a portable toilet in case he gets stuck in traffic too long!

He's a fucking idiot and full of shit.
Tell him to go to Balance Studios and prove it. I will see if i can get the video on the mat cameras if he does and post it.
Either way I could get to verify his claim via trusted sources.

The Caucasian always has stronger strength and when comes to grappling, Caucasians mostly win easily. I do know grappling and if I used it on Asians my size, it works. - Kung Fu dude that got waxed at OneFc try out.

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Apparently an untrained and out of shape 42 year old software developer went to an introductory BJJ class where upon he took issue with the instructor saying "that strength and weight don't matter against technique".

Now this is an old debate that we all know the answer to: of course strength and weight help, skill can only get you so far (a skinny 5'3" vegetarian dude from New Jersey could train his whole life but still get eaten alive by Jake the Snake and his violating moustache).

Now our hero took exception to this understandably, he's a big guy at 205lbs (obvs the kind of intense muscle you can only get from long hours of programming and eating Findus 'Beef' Lasagne), and so he rightly challenges the instructor and then: "very slowly and carefully, and with a friendly smile, chocked him with his own gi".

Holy shit, I knew weight mattered in a fight but I didn't think an unexperienced gimp could choke out a Purple belt just because he was a fat fucker!

Forget training this week, I'm gonna shack myself up with several dozen pastries for a few days and see if I can't follow in my heros example. I'll be getting gold at ADCC before I know it, watch your back Claudio Calasans!

Anyway back to the story: "He obviously didn't want to tap out and started thrashing around. When the main instructor came and stopped it, my opponent said I was too agressive. My wife was blue belt and tapping out purple belts (different gym), when she quit because of BS going on in this scene."

Our hero finishes with quite the damning verdict on the art:"bjj is a game. A dangerous one, with lots of injuries, but does not really prepare for real life situations, due to 1-on-1 nature and lots of restrictions embedded in muscle memory to prevent injury to opponent. The real world is opposite."

Now I've been a lurker on this site for a long ass time so I've heard some shitty attacks on BJJ, but "restrictions embedded in muscle memory" might be the wackiest I've ever heard.

Now obviously our hero chooses the martial art fit only for a man of his intellectual prowess:

"I am personally partial for Russian Systema, use one inch punches to break wood, and no artificial sport restrictions BS"

What an argument, I might just be sold on this "Russian Systema"!

In all honesty the guy might just be fucking with everyone but deep down I want to believe he really thinks all this shit.

And bonus fact: apparently in his concealed carry bag he carries a portable toilet in case he gets stuck in traffic too long!

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This reminds me of a video I saw a while backhttps://www.facebook.com/Superliftin...0054738034985/
Big fat dude manhandles a small grappler. Of course, we don't know what level the small guy is, or anything about the gym, or even what style of grappling it was, so I'm not trying to suggest this means anything, but I thought it was relevant

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I won't discount it as impossible, especially if there's a huge size difference. It's possible, and embarrassing for the purple belt if it happened. Shit happens. But it's irrelevant. Skill is about having the ability to consistently win. If he rolls with that purple belt a hundred more times, he'll lose every time.

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Funny enough, I just found an old submission grappling match where Vitor Belfort loses to a powerlifter.

Vitor isn't very good at grappling by competition black belt standards.

The Caucasian always has stronger strength and when comes to grappling, Caucasians mostly win easily. I do know grappling and if I used it on Asians my size, it works. - Kung Fu dude that got waxed at OneFc try out.

Vitor is 100% fast twitch muscle. If you can grind on him for 5+ mins his muscles shutdown and hes left with only less than world class technical grappling ability.

I will also say if I had to name the group of people that aren't full contact fighters that would stand the best chance against those that are is Power Lifters and Worlds Strongest Man competitors.

The Caucasian always has stronger strength and when comes to grappling, Caucasians mostly win easily. I do know grappling and if I used it on Asians my size, it works. - Kung Fu dude that got waxed at OneFc try out.

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Vitor is 100% fast twitch muscle. If you can grind on him for 5+ mins his muscles shutdown and hes left with only less than world class technical grappling ability.

I will also say if I had to name the group of people that aren't full contact fighters that would stand the best chance against those that are is Power Lifters and Worlds Strongest Man competitors.

He was using mainly powerlifting techniques.

Seriously, though, his name's Mark Robinson and he competed in just about every grappling style known to man (Sumo and Schwingen included). He won the heavyweight division in the 2001 ADCC World Championships.