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I get that his shooting percentages are bad; but, as I pointed out, he only needs to make one more shot per game and one more 3 pointer out of every five to get his basic percentages on par and that will raise the advanced stats as well.

One extra shot ain't helping his O rating that much.

Originally Posted by rhymeratic

Shoot I'd even put up Glen Rice and Mitch Richmond in their prime at or slightly better than James. Even Glenn Robinson who is a forgotten beast.

I'm not an advanced stats expert so I don't know exactly what he'd have to do to get his TS% and EFG% where it needs to be, but he can start with improve his basic stats which are just 1 make (out if the attempts he already takes) and 1 more out of every 5 threes (out of what he already takes) from being on par with Ray Allen's rookie campaign.

I actually think a more accurate comparison might be James Harden. Many thought he was a bust after his rookie year, but he was given some time to develop into his role. That's what Beal needs. He has a good shot form, and a pure stroke. There's no reason he can't improve those shooting percentages.

ET's rebounding is Elite for his position. Im not sure why u think Beal shooting 33% from 3 suggests he can improve?

As far as Turner, that's not what he came into the league promoted as. Elite skills came up when discussing why Beal has more potential. Further, Philly is not a great rebounding team 26th with Thad Young at SF (I know he plays PF too) also grabbing 7 boards a game. Since we are talking about defensive rebounds, I have a hard time attributing the numbers they are grabbing as wings to their own "elite" ability but rather to a combination of playing style and sub-par rebounding by the bigs.

Beal's shooting 33.3% means he's still efficient as far as Points Per Shot which is the same number as you get shooting 50% from 2pt range. He is a volume 3pt. shooter so it is encouraging to know that he can hit them at a decent rate even as he's not getting other shots down. His free throw shooting is another positive sign as it shows he has solid form (85%) and that he is dealing with the speed of the game and adjustment to the NBA versus having a flaw in his shot.

Evan Turner is bigger and more versatile than Bradley Beal. Considering how well Jordan Crawford is doing, I don't think Beal could even get the time in the foreseeable future to be as active as Turner.

As far as Turner, that's not what he came into the league promoted as. Elite skills came up when discussing why Beal has more potential. Further, Philly is not a great rebounding team 26th with Thad Young at SF (I know he plays PF too) also grabbing 7 boards a game. Since we are talking about defensive rebounds, I have a hard time attributing the numbers they are grabbing as wings to their own "elite" ability but rather to a combination of playing style and sub-par rebounding by the bigs.

Beal's shooting 33.3% means he's still efficient as far as Points Per Shot which is the same number as you get shooting 50% from 2pt range. He is a volume 3pt. shooter so it is encouraging to know that he can hit them at a decent rate even as he's not getting other shots down. His free throw shooting is another positive sign as it shows he has solid form (85%) and that he is dealing with the speed of the game and adjustment to the NBA versus having a flaw in his shot.

None? I remember he did when he first came into the league and ESPN still have him listed as SF. Regardless, my point is that I don't think you can call a guy an elite rebounder at his position when his team doesn't rebound.

The 76ers are 19th in the league in rebounding and their point guard averages nearly 4 a game (and more offensive rebounds than ET). Dorell Wright averages the same number of rebounds per minute as Turner. He is not an elite rebounder, rather he is a player on a small-ball team who is playing a lot of minutes comparatively.

Evan Turner is bigger and more versatile than Bradley Beal. Considering how well Jordan Crawford is doing, I don't think Beal could even get the time in the foreseeable future to be as active as Turner.

Jordan Crawford is not good. Beal is the future and will get minutes. Beal is more athletic than Turner and is performing better overall than ET in his rookie year (not that that is saying much).

None? I remember he did when he first came into the league and ESPN still have him listed as SF. Regardless, my point is that I don't think you can call a guy an elite rebounder at his position when his team doesn't rebound.

The 76ers are 19th in the league in rebounding and their point guard averages nearly 4 a game (and more offensive rebounds than ET). Dorell Wright averages the same number of rebounds per minute as Turner. He is not an elite rebounder, rather he is a player on a small-ball team who is playing a lot of minutes comparatively.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't turner set the NBA record last season for rebounding rate for a guard?

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't turner set the NBA record last season for rebounding rate for a guard?

That has to mean a little something.

edit: it was DRB%, but still, it was a record

Yes, records are nice, but I have a hard time calling someone an elite rebounder when his offensive rebounding rate is barely better than O.J. Mayo. That 20% defensive rebound rate is huge, but also very fishy.

None? I remember he did when he first came into the league and ESPN still have him listed as SF. Regardless, my point is that I don't think you can call a guy an elite rebounder at his position when his team doesn't rebound.

The 76ers are 19th in the league in rebounding and their point guard averages nearly 4 a game (and more offensive rebounds than ET). Dorell Wright averages the same number of rebounds per minute as Turner. He is not an elite rebounder, rather he is a player on a small-ball team who is playing a lot of minutes comparatively.

dont get me wrong i argee with u on that but Thad hasn't played SF in a few years now he has gotten bigger and is an undersized PF.
nothing personal or anything but it always has buged me when people assume he is a SF or assume he can be pluged in there he never had perimeter skills to begin with outside of and average jumper and improves his post skills every year he is a low post scapper a 2nd chance points kind of guy any 3 that was in his game is just about gone.