If you're classifying Amerindian religions as "occult" and you're a librarian, you need a serious punch in the gonads to begin with because there is no possible rational way to attach those two topics together. Quanah Parker and Cornelius Agrippa may have both been carbon-based life forms, but any similarity ends there.

Weaver95:i'm kinda pissed off that a librarian would block wiccan websites at all. they're probably the LEAST harmful sites on the 'net. WTF man?

It's all the sex inherent in Wicca and neo-Paganism. The Great Rite, fertility goddesses, Dionysus, Charge of the Goddess, skyclad rites, acceptance of homosexuality, being generally sex-positive. All that stuff leads to dancing!

These people should love Satanists, because both groups believe in God. They have more similarities than differences.

Satanism is stupid, anyway. The title is "The Adversary" and he's exactly that. But the adversary of what? God? That's silly, everyone agrees God is infallible, omnipotent, yatta yatta yatta. The actual name is "The Satan" and it's a job title, he works for God as the adversary of man, to tempt men to stray from the paths of virtue. The idea that he corrupts people against God's will is stupid.

So you can learn about other cultures, unless the people in those other cultures are naked. Then, censorship is fine. But, you know, within a pretty narrow range, we don't like censorship. Censor the natural state of humanity, sure, of course, why not? But censor some bullshiat superstition? OH NOES! Sure, makes perfect sense.

Reminds me ofGroup W's where they put you if you may not be moral enough to join the armyafter committing your special crime, and there was all kinds of mean nasty uglylooking people on the bench there. Mother rapers. Father stabbers. Fatherrapers! Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! Andthey was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on thebench next to me. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanestfather raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean 'n' ugly'n' nasty 'n' horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to meand said, "Kid, whad'ya get?" I said, "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay$50 and pick up the garbage." He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?"And I said, "Littering."

Reminds me ofGroup W's where they put you if you may not be moral enough to join the armyafter committing your special crime, and there was all kinds of mean nasty uglylooking people on the bench there. Mother rapers. Father stabbers. Fatherrapers! Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! Andthey was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on thebench next to me. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanestfather raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean 'n' ugly'n' nasty 'n' horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to meand said, "Kid, whad'ya get?" I said, "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay$50 and pick up the garbage." He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?"And I said, "Littering."

Reminds me ofGroup W's where they put you if you may not be moral enough to join the armyafter committing your special crime, and there was all kinds of mean nasty uglylooking people on the bench there. Mother rapers. Father stabbers. Fatherrapers! Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! Andthey was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on thebench next to me. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanestfather raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean 'n' ugly'n' nasty 'n' horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to meand said, "Kid, whad'ya get?" I said, "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay$50 and pick up the garbage." He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?"And I said, "Littering."

Somacandra:If you're classifying Amerindian religions as "occult" and you're a librarian, you need a serious punch in the gonads to begin with because there is no possible rational way to attach those two topics together. Quanah Parker and Cornelius Agrippa may have both been carbon-based life forms, but any similarity ends there.

I bet the lady is a librarian in name only (e.g., she doesn't have any real credentials). All the real librarians---those well-read and intelligent folks with Master's degrees in library science---I've known are quite liberal and open-minded about things.

It was a consent judgment negotiated between the parties; judge signed it.

"The judgment says that the sites were not blocked after Aug, 1, 2011, when the library's internet service provider informed them that due to the concerns of some organizations, they were removing some blocks. The change was made before Hunter's suit was filed, the judgment says."

Duck_of_Doom:Weaver95: i'm kinda pissed off that a librarian would block wiccan websites at all. they're probably the LEAST harmful sites on the 'net. WTF man?

It's all the sex inherent in Wicca and neo-Paganism. The Great Rite, fertility goddesses, Dionysus, Charge of the Goddess, skyclad rites, acceptance of homosexuality, being generally sex-positive. All that stuff leads to dancing!

Salem, MO is a tiny hick town of about 4,000. It contains a Wal-Mart Distribution Center and a prison. Those are literally the only two industries in the town. It's otherwise surrounded by farms and meth producers.

The closest biggish town is 30 miles away in Rolla, MO, a town of about 18,000 which is perhaps most well-known for its engineering school. Several Farkers went to school there. I am one of them. Even with the high-paying university jobs, median HOUSEHOLD income in Rolla, MO hovers at around $26,000/yr.

As a librarian - albeit in a university (although I was a library assistant in a public library) - I look very sternly on censorship in libraries. It's not up to us to make those kinds of judgments, and betraying the principles behind free access to information tarnishes the profession as a whole. For decades librarians have tried to get rid of the image of the petty authoritarian censorious shusher. This kind of thing doesn't help.

Missouri was on the Confederate side (the South). Maybe he meant south politically, not geographically.

Incorrect. It was one of 3 border states where slavery was legal, but they didn't join the Confederacy. The other two were Maryland and Kentucky, IIRC.

You idiots are thinking of the Missouri Compromise. Missouri came into the Union as a slave state so Kansas could come into the Union as a free state. Before, the score was 12-12; after, the score was 13-13.

For what it's worth, in Missouri, people's sentiments about slavery generally correlated with latitude. North of Jefferson City was mostly free-staters, south of Jeff was almost all slave-staters.

Somacandra:If you're classifying Amerindian religions as "occult" and you're a librarian, you need a serious punch in the gonads to begin with because there is no possible rational way to attach those two topics together. Quanah Parker and Cornelius Agrippa may have both been carbon-based life forms, but any similarity ends there.

These days, people throw around the word "occult" to mean any polytheistic or non-Abrahamic religion.

HotWingAgenda:Web chat is blocked? Would that include message boards like Fark and most legitimate news websites?

I hope you didn't seriously just compare Fark to a legitimate news website!

farkRus:Not that Satan is a figure in pagan religions, but if Satan were real, the Internet would appear to be a perfect home for him. I'm sure that's her main concern. And I thought I was crazy.

And Fark.com would be his homepage, especially the politics tab.

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo:Satanism is stupid, anyway. The title is "The Adversary" and he's exactly that. But the adversary of what? God? That's silly, everyone agrees God is infallible, omnipotent, yatta yatta yatta. The actual name is "The Satan" and it's a job title, he works for God as the adversary of man, to tempt men to stray from the paths of virtue. The idea that he corrupts people against God's will is stupid.

Thisity this. Even people of a religious nature should man up and admit their own mistakes and shortcomings, and stop trying to blame the horned guy with the pitchfork.

Reminds me ofGroup W's where they put you if you may not be moral enough to join the armyafter committing your special crime, and there was all kinds of mean nasty uglylooking people on the bench there. Mother rapers. Father stabbers. Fatherrapers! Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! Andthey was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on thebench next to me. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanestfather raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean 'n' ugly'n' nasty 'n' horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to meand said, "Kid, whad'ya get?" I said, "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay$50 and pick up the garbage." He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?"And I said, "Littering."

algrant33:The closest biggish town is 30 miles away in Rolla, MO, a town of about 18,000 which is perhaps most well-known for its engineering school. Several Farkers went to school there. I am one of them. Even with the high-paying university jobs, median HOUSEHOLD income in Rolla, MO hovers at around $26,000/yr.

I was there for 2 semesters in '89-'90. Very easy school to flunk out of. My father graduated from there, and they were quite proud of their washout rate then.

Missouri was on the Confederate side (the South). Maybe he meant south politically, not geographically.

Incorrect. It was one of 3 border states where slavery was legal, but they didn't join the Confederacy. The other two were Maryland and Kentucky, IIRC.

Kansas was a Free State. A whole bunch of Missouri bastards burned my town of Lawrence to the ground. They may not have signed on the Confederate dotted line, but they were pro-slavery Southern supporters. Are you saying they were confederates without having the gonads to declare as such?

Missouri was on the Confederate side (the South). Maybe he meant south politically, not geographically.

Incorrect. It was one of 3 border states where slavery was legal, but they didn't join the Confederacy. The other two were Maryland and Kentucky, IIRC.

Kansas was a Free State. A whole bunch of Missouri bastards burned my town of Lawrence to the ground. They may not have signed on the Confederate dotted line, but they were pro-slavery Southern supporters. Are you saying they were confederates without having the gonads to declare as such?

Right, they didn't leave. Though it sounded like it was a near thing.

I heard there were some minor Civil War battles in Missouri, but they may have been entirely locals fighting each other. I sorta remember vising a Civil War battle reenactment at Pilot Knob, Missouri, about a hundred miles south of St. Louis, when I was a teen in the 80's.