Listen Rose, I never had an issue with you.I know that you're prolife. I know thay we don't agree on many things like birth control. I understand that you have your opinion on how prolifers post and that's okay but you need to see that you do the same thkng when you feel like it...and you think that's it's okay. EVERYBODY judges others. We judge their beliefs and actikns. You don't have a riht to make a claim that being Christlike is how you see fit. Abortion IS ugly and bringing up this evil will offend those who are part of this evil. NOBODY asked you to be mean but don't expect others to be nice if they dont choose to.

RoSesz wrote:

<quoted text>If anyone sends a death threat it's,wrong ...You .Foo..AnyoneThis is a forum. It's words and not worth sentiments like that IMO.I did NOT SAY YOUR SIL WAS MENTAL. Stop putting words in my mouthYOU asked if I thought she was MENTAL since she had her baby alone .Thankfully she had her baby just fine and God bless them both . I assumed she called someone for helpWhy she did not call You at least..who is a nurse ..no clue .asking ladi,stupid disgusting questions about black masses and baby sacrifice is WRONG ...AND taunting and disgusting .You DON'T agree?? probably one reason the poster got banned..just a guess.And I am trying to answer you .Jesus said to love one another ..That is no way to show love ..IMOIf you cannot say something nice ..PERSONALLY..be quiet about their health problems. IMO.Disagree with abortion ...And everything yo do with it.But can you not see that insulting people while saying you love Jesus is so wrong .Btw..sorry you had sepsis ..hope all is,well .And yes some fool made up a sign in and told FOO to die the day BEFORE her FIRST SURGERY .As for the woman in the story ..I did not judge her...the JUDGE did ..said to get counselling ...I agreed that she likely had a mental problem of some sort or at least should and would be evaluated for one .She broke the law..But maybe there is a reason WE DO NOT KNOW ..as to why ..AND ONE MORE TIME you equated her to your relative.Not ME

Listen Rose, I never had an issue with you.I know that you're prolife. I know thay we don't agree on many things like birth control. I understand that you have your opinion on how prolifers post and that's okay but you need to see that you do the same thkng when you feel like it...and you think that's it's okay. EVERYBODY judges others. We judge their beliefs and actikns. You don't have a riht to make a claim that being Christlike is how you see fit. Abortion IS ugly and bringing up this evil will offend those who are part of this evil. NOBODY asked you to be mean but don't expect others to be nice if they dont choose to.<quoted text>

Ok fine ..You post as you like. I will post likewise.

I honestly do not care what you say about abortion .

And if it includes,personal stuff to other posters ..which I don't see as necessary ..go ahead.

As for people posting nasty comments personally about me and my family as has been done...it is not only rude and not Christian but against Topix TOS .

Instead of yelling and getting each other angry ..wouldn't be nice just to discuss..But we'll feel free to MSKE your points your way .

<quoted text>I DID NOT ONCE CALL YOUR SIL A MENTAL CASE.YOU asked if I though she was..I sent know a thing abut her but what YOU SAID.STOP TWISTING WORDSAGAIN the woman in the story was told by a JUDGE to get counselling .I have no idea what your relationship who the Saviuir is. And unlike your friends,I would never say otherwise.You are smart enough to know,I was speaking of un chRistian commentsThose made to me and others,.Sassy say whatever you want to ok.???FEEL freeBut just don't mischaracterize what I clearly stated. Ok ??Have fun ..,

I specifically asked you if my SIL was one too since she didn't call 911 when in labor OR after.You said yes but assumed that she eventually did. She didn't. She had her circumstances as to why. The problem that you had with the othef woman was that she was mengal or on drugs because she didnt.

The comments to proaborts are trhe Rose..NOT made up (give or take a few cheap shots here and there). Naming lalas baby (that she insists wasnt her child) is what prolifers do. I know girls who regret their abortions and them name their child in order to give dignity back to them that they stole.

Being a good Christian is telling people truth. These unrepentant aborters as well as those who support AND proudlg escort are in grave danger. God DOESN'T APPROVE of their behavior and i think that you are doing grave harm by treating them like what they do is okay as long as you get along with each other and you.

They need to KnOW that their actions are offending God and they WILL pay one day. That's our placento be honest enough to care about a persons soul enough to say it like it is. THEN you can chit chat all you like and that's fine.

I have a good, close gf who was fighting with her MIL. She told me ALL details of the interactions and i saw much myself. I told her that I felt that SHE needed to own up to her wrongdoings that I felt were adding the fuel to that fire. She was angry at me. Our other friends told her what SHE wanted to hear-that she was not wrong and that her MIL was the trouble starter. I TOLD HER THE TRUTH because I love her to pieces and I wanted her to soul search this. Everyone was the good guy but i was mean. Eventually she did some praying aand soul searching and came to the realization tbat i was right. She corrected herself and worked on tbe problems that SHE was unconsciously starting and finding out WHY she was doing it. Today....they are close as ever.

See, being Christlike is being honest and telling people that are harming themselves...spiritually emotionally or physically...to look at their negative actions. ESPECIALLY those who harm or kill others and might lose their eternity because of it.

Usually thkse doing wrong will not want to hear it but for their sake and those they miht harm..it has to be said.

<quoted text>She wasn't charged with abortion. She wasn't charged with killing the fetus. She wasn't charged with anything connected with the stillbirth.She was charged with illegally disposing of it, and as has already been pointed out, that is a health code issue, not about abortion. And no, they do not "go to the dump". How ridiculous.Sure you can probably find articles that show where someone breaks the law, but guess what? Exceptions prove the rule.Most medical waste is disposed of properly, likely incinerated. Corpses need to be disposed on properly to eliminate the risk of contamination.Her being charged has NOTHING to do with abortion being legal. No matter how desperate SS was to tied the two together, because dishonesty is all she's got.

Like you said "there are exceptions "I would think in this country, any woman about to have a baby would seek some help, but she didn't.

Her baby was dead, she got rid of it.I think somethings wrong with her, but again I think somethings more wrong with those seeking an abortion, and feel they to need help.

<quoted text>I remember that, she also wished I would get run over and other crapola. Wonder where she is anyway? I have a friend who had a baby in the bathroom, her husband got up and took her and the baby to the hospital, no ambulance no 911. She didn't have much labor and was very, very happy with that. I think people disrespect life anymore so much that the girl didn't think too much of throwing the baby out, after all that's just what the abortionist does. Our culture is sooo bad now that people here are wondering if Christ is coming back very soon.

Hi knit. Yes foo has said some really ugly low things to people. She attacked even Lynne who was a 25 yr old girl who was abused because she's prolife.

Anyway, my SIL was a teenager who didn't know that she was pregnant . She was scared when she went into labor. She gave birth on her living room floor. She held her baby in disbelief and was frozen in fear. Until her parenfs came home, she never called for help.n

She MUST be mental or on drugs according to some. Had she aborted she would be A-OK as long as she got along with people...I suppose :/

<quoted text>Hi knit. Yes foo has said some really ugly low things to people. She attacked even Lynne who was a 25 yr old girl who was abused because she's prolife.Anyway, my SIL was a teenager who didn't know that she was pregnant . She was scared when she went into labor. She gave birth on her living room floor. She held her baby in disbelief and was frozen in fear. Until her parenfs came home, she never called for help.nShe MUST be mental or on drugs according to some. Had she aborted she would be A-OK as long as she got along with people...I suppose :/

Young girls who are afraid are the one's. That find themselves at pp, and more then none they are "guided " into an abortion. I do "get it ", they think if this thing inside of me was just gone, then all would be ok, but most find out they are still in a mess.

I hope all worked out for your sister. I know several young girls who got pregnant at a young age, and their babies have really helped them, if nothing else, they learn the world isn't. All about them, and they must get it together, to help another who depends on them.

I can name a dozen, just off the top of my head, who went from party all night /sleep all day, to a responsible parent. It's. Not easy by any means, but many have parents /others who will help them, but wouldn't. Help them continue in their old lifestyle.

<quoted text> Absorb what the core meaning of the article is about. You'd then see that the sbortion movement is indeed based on deception. Vulnerable girls (those who are young and find themselves pregnant) deceive themselves because they've bought into a lie. Can't you see this womans post screaming that?The mere fact that she convinced herself that *her child* was an *it* in order to consciously kill her child shows the deception of this multi-billion dollar business. Even abortion Drs, nurses and staff who left the business exposed the deception going on behind closed doors to guarantee that abortion. Wake up!At the end of the day, she lives with the ugly raw truth of what she did to her developing *child*. I've seen ONE TOO MANY similar situations. These girls and women are suffering mentally, emotionally and many physically(from their previous abortion(s).Ah....who cares about them now that they aborted? Isn't that right STO? You people can shut them out while you continue to lie to them and other vulnerable girls, that they should be "lucky" that they could and can abort.Anti-woman....Heartless and insensitive!

You're blaming the clinical description of a medical procedure for this woman's choice. She made her choice freely. She had all the information she bothered to gather. She could have carried to term. The only person who stopped her was her.

She's lucky she lives in a country that allowed her the choice. Like I said.

<quoted text>I specifically asked you if my SIL was one too since she didn't call 911 when in labor OR after.You said yes but assumed that she eventually did. She didn't. She had her circumstances as to why. The problem that you had with the othef woman was that she was mengal or on drugs because she didnt.The comments to proaborts are trhe Rose..NOT made up (give or take a few cheap shots here and there). Naming lalas baby (that sBeing a good Christian is telling people truth. These unrepentant aborters as well as those who suppL pay one day. That's our placento be honest enough to care about a persons soul enough to say it like it is. THEN you can chit chat all you like and that's fine.I have a good, close gf who was fighting with her MIL. She told me ALL details of the interactions and i saw much myself. I told her that I felt that SHE needed to own up to her wrongdoings that I felt were adding the fuel to that fire. She was angry at me. Our other friends told her what SHE wanted to hear-that she was not wrong and that her MIL was the trouble starter. I TOLD HER THE TRUTH because I love her to pieces and I wanted her to soul search this. Everyone was the good guy but i was mean. Eventually she did some praying aand soul searching and came to the realization tbat i was right. She corrected herself and worked on tbe problems that SHE was unconsciously starting and finding out WHY she was doing it. Today....they are close as ever.See, being Christlike is being honest and telling people that are harming themselves...spiritually emotionally or physically...to look at their negative actions. ESPECIALLY those who harm or kill others and might lose their eternity because of it.Usually thkse doing wrong will not want to hear it but for their sake and those they miht harm..it has to be said.

sassy JM wrote:

<quoted text> My sister in law gave birth in her living room..alone. is she "not right in the head"?I posted the article for a reason. Yes the judge felt she was wrong but in a society that accepts LEGALIZED killing as choice and gives ZERO respect or rights to a fetus, i find it hypocritical to charge this woman with anything. Was waiting for the proaborts comments but as usual, NOTHING.

RoSesz wrote:

<quoted text>Did your sister remain alone ..or did she call for help..if not then assuming her child was born she was neglectful .which I assume she was NOT ..

My answer,..as I assumed she got help ..which she did when he family got home ..I NEVE SAID SHE WAS,MENTAL..You for some reason dragged her into this,debate.She got help ..She did not do what the woman in the story DID ...I hope they are both fine .The woman in the story is getting counselling ..PerioddonePreach a t people if you want ..do what you want ..I argue as best as I am able on the merits,of abortion .I think it's,wrong..I think it destroys,life that has a soul in the wombEveryone on here knows what I believe ...I'm not at all shy .You do it your way.Have fun..As we already agreed on

<quoted text>Drinking alcohol is not wrong. Drinking and driving is because SOMEONE might die. Abuse of alcohol destroys lives. Those leading groups will behonest enough to tell the ugly truths about it. An alcoholic in denial will be offended and DENY they have a problem or that their lives have become unmanagable.A woman who is still in denial,sill convince herself and the world that she is okay with what she did.Abortion=one dead, one wounded.

Love how you compare induced abortion to everything criminal. Everything BUT spontaneous abortion.

<quoted text>You're blaming the clinical description of a medical procedure for this woman's choice. She made her choice freely. She had all the information she bothered to gather. She could have carried to term. The only person who stopped her was her.She's lucky she lives in a country that allowed her the choice. Like I said.

Hi STO :)

Do not be fooled by "Chicky" posts.'Tis not our Chicky posting it but a nasty troll.

<quoted text>Hi knit. Yes foo has said some really ugly low things to people. She attacked even Lynne who was a 25 yr old girl who was abused because she's prolife.Anyway, my SIL was a teenager who didn't know that she was pregnant . She was scared when she went into labor. She gave birth on her living room floor. She held her baby in disbelief and was frozen in fear. Until her parenfs came home, she never called for help.nShe MUST be mental or on drugs according to some. Had she aborted she would be A-OK as long as she got along with people...I suppose :/

Now see. Those were all things left out of your original post ..all you said was your sil had a baby at home alone.

sAnd I never said SHE was mental or on drugs ...

S o I'm asking nicely do nit put words in my mouth.I just reposted our original exchange on this IN

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