John are you saying that you think people literally have a right to say stupid things without being mocked for saying stupid things? And the other apologists who insisted you didn't really mean what you said were in fact wrong, but you didn't have the heart to break it to them?

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I didn't invent anything, you have a long and recorded history of Islamaphobia

John don't you think it is a bit silly to prance around blaming everything on Islamophobia while also covering your ears and insisting you don't give a sh1t about her absurd gaffs on feminism and her misuse of public funds? By any reasonable measure, that makes you opinion on the matter invalid. Do you really think it is impossible to criticise Islam without being an Islamophobe?

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As I told you 3 or 4 times already, I am defending her right to her opionion.

From what? Criticism? Or is someone trying to kill her like they do with cartoonists in Europe?

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But you for some reason can't accept that.

You were validating the other apologists who were insisting that you do not really mean the silly things you said, as well as crying victimhood at being misunderstood, then refusing to answer simple questions. If you think people have to right to spew idiocy and demand everyone responds by being polite and not criticising them, then own your opinion. You are, after all, entitled to it, remember?

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In my opinion you and her are both as nuts as each other, just on opposite sides of the coin.

Oh look, you aren't afraid to criticise her after all. Just as long as it is carefully measured with equal criticism of a non-Muslim, in case Brian calls you an Islamophobe.

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Actually, pretty sure I made clear my reason on why people turned on her.

I'm pretty sure people turned on her for their own reasons, not yours. Or are you having trouble meaning what you say again? Crystal clear, innit?

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This is the first I can recall hearing of this book tour, and knowing your propensity to twist things. I'm just not prepared to give an opinion based on what you say.

Would it be fair to say that your opinion is based on ignorance then? Willful ignorance even, give your proclamations about not giving a sh1t, despite my repeated efforts to point it out to you?

John don't you think it is a bit silly to prance around blaming everything on Islamophobia while also covering your ears and insisting you don't give a sh1t about her absurd gaffs on feminism and her misuse of public funds?

nothing silly about calling out islamaphobia FD.

Tell me, why is it only stupid comments from muslims that warrant comments from you? I've never once seen you comment on a stupid comment from anyone else. What's the difference apart from their religion?

If it looks and acts and sounds like an islamaphobe, I'm going to call it an Islamaphobe

From what? Criticism? Or is someone trying to kill her like they do with cartoonists in Europe?

see, you trying to relate cartoonist in europe with her shows exactly why I think your an islamaphobe. Criticise (not vilify) her for what she did or said, not for something she had no more to do with than you.

You were validating the other apologists who were insisting that you do not really mean the silly things you said, as well as crying victimhood at being misunderstood, then refusing to answer simple questions.

validating the other apologists? get real FD. You ask for my reasons, but instead of accepting my answer, you make up your own.

Save everyone a lot of time and trouble and answer your questions yourself next time.

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Re: redefining freedom of speechReply #20 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 6:31pm

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criticism? is that what you call it? Grin Grincriticism is one thing FD, what she's had to put up with goes far beyond criticism.

Can you put a name on it, if it is not criticism? And do you really think she has some kind of "right" not to recieve it after all the stupid things she has said and done?

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nothing silly about calling out islamaphobia FD.

That's great John. Would you like to respond to what I actually said: John don't you think it is a bit silly to prance around blaming everything on Islamophobia while also covering your ears and insisting you don't give a sh1t about her absurd gaffs on feminism and her misuse of public funds?

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Tell me, why is it only stupid comments from muslims that warrant comments from you?

My bad. I didn't realise you are a Muslim. People like you and Brian must have a hard time keeping a careful balance of criticising Muslims and non Muslims in the correct measure.

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You ask for my reasons, but instead of accepting my answer, you make up your own.

I did not ask your reasons. I asked if you meant what you really said, because you were validating the apologists (hi Aussie) who leapt to your defence by saying you obviously didn't mean it, on account of what you actually said being so stupid. You responded with even more elaborate tapdancing.

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but your reasons are acceptable?

No less acceptable than yours John. Why is it Islamophobia when others call her nuts, or a non-entity, but not when you do it?

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less so than yours. At least I can point to my reasons in front of me. You on the other hand ......

Your reasons are ignorance. You are disinterested to the point of hostility in what she actually did to deserve all the criticism she gets. You carefully build up your ignorance, and into this self-imposed knowledge vacuum you project your idiotic fantasies about Islamophobia being behind everyone else's criticism of Yassmin, but not yours. Your opinion is based entirely on ignorance. No amount of BS excuses can make up for the fact you have no clue what you are talking about and do not even want to know. But that doesn't stop you telling everyone else the real reason why they think what they think.

You are ignorant John, and your ill-conceived theory about Islamophobia being behind this is entirely based on your ignorance and rejection of reality.

would you call comments like'kill yourself''please stop breathing''be good when you announce you have cancer''filthy dog''poo slag''I'd run her over'what about calls for her to return to where she came from to be raped or heheaded?

would you call comments like'kill yourself''please stop breathing''be good when you announce you have cancer''filthy dog''poo slag''I'd run her over'what about calls for her to return to where she came from to be raped or heheaded?

I think we passed the point of 'criticism' long ago, right FD?

Ahem

FD...you might like to ask if he's biologcally related to the person making these comments.

would you call comments like'kill yourself''please stop breathing''be good when you announce you have cancer''filthy dog''poo slag''I'd run her over'what about calls for her to return to where she came from to be raped or heheaded?

I think we passed the point of 'criticism' long ago, right FD?

Ahem

FD...you might like to ask if he's biologcally related to the person making these comments.

Why?

He makes the very same comments online.

Hence why he's currently banned everywhere.

Just a heads up

and I'll bet you won't find a single comment from me asking for any of those. But we all know reality has never been your forte.

would you call comments like'kill yourself''please stop breathing''be good when you announce you have cancer''filthy dog''poo slag''I'd run her over'what about calls for her to return to where she came from to be raped or heheaded?

I think we passed the point of 'criticism' long ago, right FD?

Ahem

FD...you might like to ask if he's biologcally related to the person making these comments.

Why?

He makes the very same comments online.

Hence why he's currently banned everywhere.

Just a heads up

and I'll bet you won't find a single comment from me asking for any of those. But we all know reality has never been your forte.

I don't need to find anything.

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