I've already posted and talked about how I didn't enjoy the 8 year exile plot enough already but I'll just point out that with your comment, another reason this would've been that much better is because hypothetically speaking, just make-believe and pretend that Christopher Nolan wanted to come back (or the next director wanted to connect his films loosely) to these movies it leaves open so many possibilities about what could happen in those 8 years as Batman if they chose a prequel if you want to call it that. We all know Nolan is pretty non-linear anyways so yeah. Not to mention the fact that by the time we reached Bruce in TDKR, he'd be a hobbled 40 year-old man. Then it's like, damn, Bruce has been busy. I wonder what's been happening during all those years?

Gah, I'm trying to not let it irritate me so much because it's still the best comic book trilogy but what the hell, I can't get over how much that plot bugged the heck out of me.

Nobody would have believed Nolan would retire Batman for 8 years after TDK unless we heard it from him. It's too stupid to be believed unless you've seen the proof for yourself.

Killing or retiring Batman on film has never been done, so either option would have been pretty ballsy. But Bruce has never retired as Batman in any medium, so it's probably the ballsier option.

I thought it was ballsy as well.

Other Batfans don't think so, to them, it's not Batman-like. Yet, Batman throwing in the towel isn't relatively new (per se). I thought Nolan executed the ending quite well (and this is coming from someone who loathed the idea of Batman and Catwoman running away together, and John Blake discovering the Batcave).

In my opinion, all these 'stupid-lazy-bad writing' comments are side-splitting. If there's aspect that a fanboy despises, it's automatically labeled **** or low quality. I literally have to take a step back and embrace it. This is the fanboy community we live in, after all. If something isn't on par with fans' imagination, then it sucks. If anyone disagrees, then he or she is an apologist.

*sighs*

I'm so not looking forward to the Relaunch. I can already see the reactions to the new film.

"This IS Batman! Nolan was nothing but a hack who didn't know what he was doing!''

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Nolan: [facetiously] "Yeah. [pause] Unless you want to whore your ass out for a load of money for ‘Batman 4."

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Nolan: "I've gotta pee. It's a two pee movie. I need to make a shorter movie next time."

Other Batfans don't think so, to them, it's not Batman-like. Yet, Batman throwing in the towel isn't relatively new (per se). I thought Nolan executed the ending quite well (and this is coming from someone who loathed the idea of Batman and Catwoman running away together, and John Blake discovering the Batcave).

In my opinion, all these 'stupid-lazy-bad writing' comments are side-splitting. If there's aspect that a fanboy despises, it's automatically labeled **** or low quality. I literally have to take a step back and embrace it. This is the fanboy community we live in, after all. If something isn't on par with fans' imagination, then it sucks. If anyone disagrees, then he or she is an apologist.

*sighs*

I'm so not looking forward to the Relaunch. I can already see the reactions to the new film.

"This IS Batman! Nolan was nothing but a hack who didn't know what he was doing!''

Depends on the relaunch. Burton and Schumacher certainly were not closer to Batman in the comics than Nolan was....

But yeah, Nolan's Bruce Wayne actually had an arc, and it necessitated giving up Batman, which was only meant as a tool and a symbol. Comic book Batman no longer has an arc, because he's a paranoid ass-kicking machine. Put to film, he'd be another James Bond, really, than anything else. Which is certainly a path they could take, but it's not one that Nolan wanted for his trilogy.

I'd like to think the people who liked BB and TDK but not TDKR will not crucify Nolan in the future and let it taint the whole franchise for them. Even if the reboot ends up being closer to the aesthetics of the comics and delights us all with a great balance of seriousness and fun, I'll still always cherish these films for being the real world, dark, balls-to-the-wall version of the Batman mythos that gave Bruce Wayne a full hero's arc.

Just like I'll always cherish Burton's version for being a quirky, moody and visually evocative interpretation that first pulled me into Batman's world as a kid.

Depends on the relaunch. Burton and Schumacher certainly were not closer to Batman in the comics than Nolan was....

But yeah, Nolan's Bruce Wayne actually had an arc, and it necessitated giving up Batman, which was only meant as a tool and a symbol. Comic book Batman no longer has an arc, because he's a paranoid ass-kicking machine. Put to film, he'd be another James Bond, really, than anything else. Which is certainly a path they could take, but it's not one that Nolan wanted for his trilogy.

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I thought it was ballsy as well.

Other Batfans don't think so, to them, it's not Batman-like. Yet, Batman throwing in the towel isn't relatively new (per se). I thought Nolan executed the ending quite well (and this is coming from someone who loathed the idea of Batman and Catwoman running away together, and John Blake discovering the Batcave).

In my opinion, all these 'stupid-lazy-bad writing' comments are side-splitting. If there's aspect that a fanboy despises, it's automatically labeled **** or low quality. I literally have to take a step back and embrace it. This is the fanboy community we live in, after all. If something isn't on par with fans' imagination, then it sucks. If anyone disagrees, then he or she is an apologist.

*sighs*

I'm so not looking forward to the Relaunch. I can already see the reactions to the new film.

"This IS Batman! Nolan was nothing but a hack who didn't know what he was doing!''

Truer words have never been spoken. I'll add that I'm looking forward to seeing what they are going to do with the relaunch, but definitely not fot the reason Doomsday mentioned.

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Movie world =/= Comic book world. If Batman couldn't accomplish his goal, it would mean he failed. This is not comics. In comics, you can always hope for Batman is always be there or he'll end the crime one day. That doesn't work for comics if your main hero isn't Superman or something.

Endless war means mission failed. He accomplished his mission and passed the torch to Johnny Blake if there is something happens.

One thing has been eating my brain for a couple days now. I know its not all that important, but...How does Bane eat? Surely the gas doesn't completely sustain his body. To be as physically powerful as he is he would need a specific diet and rigorous exercise regimen. I just don't get it. I noticed in the sewers that he had what looked like medical machines near his bed area. Maybe he hooks himself up to those when he needs to rest so he isn't constantly in the mask? I dunno, food for thought.

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The gas only serves as a painkiller. It doesn't even keep him alive per se, it just prevents the pain from his injuries from overwhelming his senses. I suspect that if he took the mask off and probably hook himself on morphine or something, he could sit to eat with no problem. It sounds like it would be a bother but it's the only explanation I got.

It's either that or he eats through a straw or maybe on some sort of parenteral nutrition. Though this seems unlikely since a large man like him would need to eat a lot of solid and nutritive food to stay in top shape.

Other Batfans don't think so, to them, it's not Batman-like. Yet, Batman throwing in the towel isn't relatively new (per se). I thought Nolan executed the ending quite well (and this is coming from someone who loathed the idea of Batman and Catwoman running away together, and John Blake discovering the Batcave).

In my opinion, all these 'stupid-lazy-bad writing' comments are side-splitting. If there's aspect that a fanboy despises, it's automatically labeled **** or low quality. I literally have to take a step back and embrace it. This is the fanboy community we live in, after all. If something isn't on par with fans' imagination, then it sucks. If anyone disagrees, then he or she is an apologist.

*sighs*

I'm so not looking forward to the Relaunch. I can already see the reactions to the new film.

"This IS Batman! Nolan was nothing but a hack who didn't know what he was doing!''

The fact that people are saying the Arkham games portray a better Batman, it wouldn't surprise me. The Arkham games are fun but the stories are absurd, the characters are overdone (including Batman who is annoyingly perfect), and it is shackled by ideas presented in the Animated series. Nolan's films are great because he is willing to make sense of the absurd and give us something original. For example, Bane has never been portrayed as well as he has in TDKR.

The fact that people are saying the Arkham games portray a better Batman, it wouldn't surprise me. The Arkham games are fun but the stories are absurd, the characters are overdone (including Batman who is annoyingly perfect), and it is shackled by ideas presented in the Animated series. Nolan's films are great because he is willing to make sense of the absurd and give us something original. For example, Bane has never been portrayed as well as he has in TDKR.

You can still have a better/more accurate portrayal in something, without the story being the best in the world. It happens in the comics all the time.

And I think Bane has been portrayed MUCH better in the comics and animation.

It's quite boring when you know hero is a mile ahead better than villains in every aspect.Batman was becoming Steven Seagal of comic book characters thanks to animated series. (Superman is probably Chuck Norris)

That's why most of the comics i like, there is a quite challenge for Batman, like in Nolan's movies.(which is quite normal since movies are heavily influenced by those comics)

First two Iron Man movies & Avengers had same problem. Villains were underdog, not the heroes.

Of course WB will now make Batman more like Bond, who stays young forever and is never injured seriously.

They will make new Batman close to portrayal of Batman in comics and Arkham City games but Nolan's Batman will always feel as the closest thing to having a real Batman on Big screen to me. Nolan's Trilogy will always be special.