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Howard is even worse than what my friend and I have estimatied around 10 years ago!!! We thought he would probably be a 'superb laborer' under the board in his thirties, since he did not have much silky skill for a big man. His dominacne was significantly based on his physical talents, not skill talents. Further, he could not shoot; his hip was too thin for a consistent post powerhouse. AND, we were exactly correct, haha!!!