If God asked you to sacrifice/kill your son to prove your love for Him. Would you do it?

This question is based on a false premise so it has no answer. It assumes there is an individual with the ability to make choices but there is not. There is only that which existed in the singularity prior to the big bang in a more complex and spread out form.

This is an interesting question, and one that has me perplexed on certain attitudes. In person, not on the internet, I have asked this very question to some Christian friends. When pushed, two of them admitted that they would follow YHWH's orders to kill their own children. Although, they vehemently defended the position that YHWH would NEVER ask such a thing.

They also admitted that there have been plenty of examples where people have indeed claimed that YHWH asked them to kill their own children, and they followed through. Of course, everyone immediately considers these people to be sick, or in some way possessed by Satan, or something. YHWH would NEVER ask such a thing - even though he has, according to scripture.

I asked these people, who admitted that they would follow YHWH's orders, what they believe would happen if they actually followed through, and they each admitted that they would be arrested, and that the defense of "God told me to kill my child" would likely not work, and most sane people would consider them a horrific parent, at best.

Now, when I confront the very important issue of how "crazy" one would appear if they did such a thing, there is complete silence. Yes, YHWH asked Abraham to kill his son, but he would NEVER ask a modern Christian to do such a thing, even though, according to some murderers today, he did exactly that.

Bottom line - when something like this happens, there is no God. Simple.

No. I would not believe I was hearing from god. I would seek medical attention.

I ask you this because I respect your general honesty and willingness to answer questions even though the answers at times dont conform to your theology.

Do you feel that Abraham was sick and in need of medical attention (had it been available) when he was willing to murder his son at Yahweh's request? Do you believe that Yahweh was the voice telling him to kill his son?

No. I would not believe I was hearing from god. I would seek medical attention.

I ask you this because I respect your general honesty and willingness to answer questions even though the answers at times dont conform to your theology.

Do you feel that Abraham was sick and in need of medical attention (had it been available) when he was willing to murder his son at Yahweh's request? Do you believe that Yahweh was the voice telling him to kill his son?

I honestly don't know. Sometimes I think god was an asshole to ask that of him. Sometimes I think some man/group of men made that story up and handed it down as a way to demonstrate/demand obedience.

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It doesn't make sense to let go of something you've had for so long. But it also doesn't make sense to hold on when there's actually nothing there.

If God asked you to sacrifice/kill your son to prove your love for Him. Would you do it?

The entity who is asking me to kill my son would have to first prove he is God, and would have to explain why I would have to slay my child. For example... this being would have to show me the future and show me what will happen if my son is not killed. If this being does prove it, and if this being show's me a proper reason for why my son would have to die.. then so be it. I cannot kill unless my life or other lives are threatened, so this being would have to be very convincing.

It certainly would have to be more than a big booming voice telling me to do it. IF that were to occour, I would head to mental health services and tell them what is happening to me.

If God asked you to sacrifice/kill your son to prove your love for Him. Would you do it?

The entity who is asking me to kill my son would have to first prove he is God, and would have to explain why I would have to slay my child. For example... this being would have to show me the future and show me what will happen if my son is not killed.

There should definitely be a better reason than proving my love for him. How fricken insecure is he? Sorry, my doubts are showing...

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It doesn't make sense to let go of something you've had for so long. But it also doesn't make sense to hold on when there's actually nothing there.

If a god does exist and he showed up in front of me with unassailable proof that he is real, and he asked me to kill my son, I'd tell him he may be all powerful but he doesn't have the ability to lay a guilt trip on me. I'd tell him to f**k off so fast I wouldn't have time to include the asterisks. Sure, they might be my last two words, but at least I'd die satisfied that I wasn't a tool for a power-hungry despot.

The why's of his request would be irrelevant. The most he could come up with would be a litany of excuses, and I've learned from a couple of women in my life not to pay attention to any of those.

If I instead decided to do his dirty work for him and then earned a trip to heaven, it would suck if I had to spend an eternity with the dude that had me to off my kid.

Game playing is something humans do, so they tossed stories like that into the bible in an effort to impress underlings with the supposed power of their "god". Bribery and threats don't work on me that easily. Even the real, human ones.

How can there be an assumption on my part if that was the initial conclusion?

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Nam... it is what I actually meant. Even if I had to edit it. If I did not do that, then what I actually meant to communicate would not have been successful. That last part of my post was a very important part that was omitted by accident. Your conclusion was indeed a false assumption. You assumed that since I edited my post, I must have posted something insincere. That assumption was indeed false.

How do I know you're telling the truth? You added it after-the-fact. All we have here are our words. Whether someone believes it or not is up to the person saying what they mean when they state it. If it were an adage, that's one thing. "I would like to add..." but that's not what you did; you edited it to sound less stupid (it still sounds stupid by the by).

Ex: I tell you I own the Bible. That I have read 15 versions of the Bible. How do you know that's true? How does anyone? Initially they don't until they get to know me, and even then there's no guarantee that they'd believe me.

Everyone has this dilemma on the web; or in person. Especially unknown people.