Oh come on. Sloane and Stosur have beaten her. Azarenka was serving out for the match last year at the USO.

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Maybe you missed it but the title was "in form Serena". The answer would probably be someone like Na Li who can match her power, apart from the serve, almost always gives Serena a tough match, and tends to let loose and go for broke when she feels like the big underdog. Maybe Kvitova on a fast court if she gets her sh1t back together. Both of those are even a stretch though, the real answer is probably nobody currently on tour. There are a number of players who can beat Serena out of form (not Sharapova mind you).

With the current shape of the WTA and the general inconsistency and unpredictability of the players... all bets are off. Anyone can beat anyone on any given day, tournament or round. But If I had to say, a Slam Serena (there is a difference between a slam serena and a 1000 serena) is most easily beaten by an in form Vika.

Pretty much agree with this.
Though maybe Azarenka if she's having a very good day and Serena is off.

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true and if serena is off i think alot of ppl have chances. heck wozniacki beat her...
outside of france the only time i'm worried she might lose is kim kardashian either gets married or has that baby with kanye....

Maybe you missed it but the title was "in form Serena". The answer would probably be someone like Na Li who can match her power, apart from the serve, almost always gives Serena a tough match, and tends to let loose and go for broke when she feels like the big underdog. Maybe Kvitova on a fast court if she gets her sh1t back together. Both of those are even a stretch though, the real answer is probably nobody currently on tour. There are a number of players who can beat Serena out of form (not Sharapova mind you).

We all know Sharapova has an awful recent record against Serena but she did demolish her in the W final 2004, and beat her again in the YEC final in 2004, so please don't pretend Serena is some kind of unbeatable goddess. :roll:

We all know Sharapova has an awful recent record against Serena but she did demolish her in the W final 2004, and beat her again in the YEC final in 2004, so please don't pretend Serena is some kind of unbeatable goddess. :roll:

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Yup, well said, even for a *********! Masha destroyed a young and athletic Serena at her peak in 2004 on her best surface.

I think skill-wise Azarenka, but I think that Sharapova has this persona on court that displays NO fear of Serena, while Azarenka is a bit more emotionally flaky. I'd go with Sharapova, she's ruthless.

I think skill-wise Azarenka, but I think that Sharapova has this persona on court that displays NO fear of Serena

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LOL when is the last Sharapova-Serena match you watched? 2005 or something. The fact Sharapova gets ANY dicussion on this topic is only proof this is an ATP only (correct that Federer only) forum which doesnt have the faintest clue of womens tennis. Anyone who actually does follow womens tennis knows Sharapova is the least likely person in the top 30 to beat any kind of Serena in a match anytime soon.

We all know Sharapova has an awful recent record against Serena but she did demolish her in the W final 2004, and beat her again in the YEC final in 2004, so please don't pretend Serena is some kind of unbeatable goddess. :roll:

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2 fluke matches in 2004 vs their complete h2h,are you serious? and serena was peak? serena was at the peak of a gurney maybe.....because a month later serena pulled out of the olympics....

I agree with NadalAgassi that an in-form Serena is very hard for Sharapova to beat. My view is that Serena, even when she is in the best of form, is not the best mover. However, her combination of decent movement and incredible power is overwhelming for most players. So, to defeat an in-form Serena you would need one of two combinations:
(1) Enough power to return Serena's serve and pacy groundstrokes with interest, basically feeding Serena her own medicine.
(2) Excellent movement around the court and imagination to disrupt and neutralize Serena's power game.

Regarding (1), if Kvitova had a crazy day in which she actually concentrated for more than the length of a set, she could do it.

Regarding (2), I'd probably also go with Li Na. I don't know enough about Azarenka's best form to comment, since I automatically turn away from her matches owing to her godawful shrieking.

LOL when is the last Sharapova-Serena match you watched? 2005 or something. The fact Sharapova gets ANY dicussion on this topic is only proof this is an ATP only (correct that Federer only) forum which doesnt have the faintest clue of womens tennis. Anyone who actually does follow womens tennis knows Sharapova is the least likely person in the top 30 to beat any kind of Serena in a match anytime soon.

It is not a diss on Maria either. Maria is definitely one of the best active players, and her power and mental toughness is probably 2nd to only Serena. It is just that everyone who knows squat about womens tennis knows how that matchup has been for the last 8 years. Also when playing Serena is one of the few times Maria seems to lose her usual mental toughness and fight, Serena in addition to being a superior player and a horrible technical matchup has definitely got into her head as well.

Phoenix1983 as for your laughable post, yes Maria spanked Serena once almost a whole decade ago, and Serena has spanked Maria about 9 more times since then, including about 4 brutal beatdowns last year. So your point is what exactly? As for impying Serena is an unbeatable goddess, well if that is the implication we would be saying god Maria is obviously her toughest opponent just because she managed to beat her a whole 9 years ago, yet that is what nobody (except a few like yourself who follow no WTA) is saying.

LOL when is the last Sharapova-Serena match you watched? 2005 or something. The fact Sharapova gets ANY dicussion on this topic is only proof this is an ATP only (correct that Federer only) forum which doesnt have the faintest clue of womens tennis. Anyone who actually does follow womens tennis knows Sharapova is the least likely person in the top 30 to beat any kind of Serena in a match anytime soon.

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still not got over wimby 04..?..had you had already pencilled in a win for lance....never mind.

Phoenix1983 as for your laughable post, yes Maria spanked Serena once almost a whole decade ago, and Serena has spanked Maria about 9 more times since then, including about 4 brutal beatdowns last year. So your point is what exactly?

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My point was to bring you back to reality in terms of your ranking of Serena i.e. saying she is contention with Graf for GOAT, that it's impossible for Sharapova to beat her, and all the other ridiculous fanboyism you spout off on a daily basis about Serena.

As for impying Serena is an unbeatable goddess, well if that is the implication we would be saying god Maria is obviously her toughest opponent just because she managed to beat her a whole 9 years ago, yet that is what nobody (except a few like yourself who follow no WTA) is saying.

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I do follow WTA. You just like to say I don't because I point out your silly arguments about the Seles stabbing, Serena, Capriati and others.

It is not a diss on Maria either. Maria is definitely one of the best active players, and her power and mental toughness is probably 2nd to only Serena. It is just that everyone who knows squat about womens tennis knows how that matchup has been for the last 8 years. Also when playing Serena is one of the few times Maria seems to lose her usual mental toughness and fight, Serena in addition to being a superior player and a horrible technical matchup has definitely got into her head as well.

Phoenix1983 as for your laughable post, yes Maria spanked Serena once almost a whole decade ago, and Serena has spanked Maria about 9 more times since then, including about 4 brutal beatdowns last year. So your point is what exactly? As for impying Serena is an unbeatable goddess, well if that is the implication we would be saying god Maria is obviously her toughest opponent just because she managed to beat her a whole 9 years ago, yet that is what nobody (except a few like yourself who follow no WTA) is saying.

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no doubt maris is the best player not named serena but it is clearly a sampras -agassi situation with serena as pete and maria as andre.

no doubt maris is the best player not named serena but it is clearly a sampras -agassi situation with serena as pete and maria as andre.

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That is a pretty disrespectful to Agassi. I mean Sharapova has not beaten Serena in what? Like 8 years now?

Agassi lost a lot of big matches to Sampras, but he was always a very worthy rival. Agassi went 3-6 against Pete in GS, 5-4 in master series matches, 2-4 in YEC championships, 7-9 in all finals they played, and was able score wins over Sampras regularly for 14 years . Also, Andre was superior to Sampras in 2 majors: AO and FO. Sharapova does not have the edge over Serena in any major

That is a pretty disrespectful to Agassi. I mean Sharapova has not beaten Serena in what? Like 8 years now?

Agassi lost a lot of big matches to Sampras, but he was always a very worthy rival. Agassi went 3-6 against Pete in GS, 5-4 in master series matches, 2-4 in YEC championships, 7-9 in all finals they played, and was able score wins over Sampras regularly for 14 years . Also, Andre was superior to Sampras in 2 majors: AO and FO. Sharapova does not have the edge over Serena in any major

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agassi himself,in his book open said he had a bit of an inferiority complex to pete, seems like mmaria has one in regards to serena. that's really what i meant to say....

That is a pretty disrespectful to Agassi. I mean Sharapova has not beaten Serena in what? Like 8 years now?

Agassi lost a lot of big matches to Sampras, but he was always a very worthy rival. Agassi went 3-6 against Pete in GS, 5-4 in master series matches, 2-4 in YEC championships, 7-9 in all finals they played, and was able score wins over Sampras regularly for 14 years . Also, Andre was superior to Sampras in 2 majors: AO and FO. Sharapova does not have the edge over Serena in any major

That is a pretty disrespectful to Agassi. I mean Sharapova has not beaten Serena in what? Like 8 years now?

Agassi lost a lot of big matches to Sampras, but he was always a very worthy rival. Agassi went 3-6 against Pete in GS, 5-4 in master series matches, 2-4 in YEC championships, 7-9 in all finals they played, and was able score wins over Sampras regularly for 14 years . Also, Andre was superior to Sampras in 2 majors: AO and FO. Sharapova does not have the edge over Serena in any major

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...but of the two in an overall view of their generation, it is easy to see how Sharapova--like Agassi to Sampras--fails to match up to Serena, even if H2H was not considered.