Let’s see, has MSNBC called him? Has Maddow had him on his show, despite the fact he asked her for two books? Has CNN had him on?

Just asking. I mean, he is the ultimate Twitter/blog troll right now, and nobody is asking him to be on, despite all of his “finds” of racism everywhere. Makes you wonder if those comments he “finds” really are his

Wow, Charles. Talk about being despicable. How you can sit there and criticize others for being opportunistic when you try to tweet the names of people who have died just to build your site traffic is jaw droppingly pathetic. Let’s be honest-you’re salivating over this poor kid’s death hoping it will score points for the left.

If there is anyone whose actions are “disgusting” in this whole mess, it’s you.

you are talking out of your arse.
do I believe Zimmerman should not have pursued that kid based on what I know? Yes.
Do I believe the shooting was self-defense based on what I know: Yes.

Zimmerman is a fat guy. the kid could have hauled ass out of there. all I know is that according to the eyewitness, he was on top of zimmerman hitting him.

and again, from what I know, that neighborhood has had multiple home invasions and robberies. the police were obviously not preventing these so I totally agree with armed citizens taking control of their neighborhoods. absolutely!

I agree. And I don’t understand why the President is so hell bent on encouraging the tensions developing around this case. He could have called for everyone to back down and see what comes out in the independent investigation and emphasized the need for the people of our country to work together to address racism (if that is what was at work here. It could also have been due to mental illness.)

A serious note, just for a second.
No cops like the idea of concealed weapons. None. It is the biggest danger to them. The idea that the police are protecting the ‘white guy’ or ‘racist vigilante’ from justice is flat insane.
If they could have charged him they would and they would definitely pull his CCW if there was a chance he was any of the above.
It’s a tragedy but the racism, lies and prejudice are all coming from professional agitators like Charlie the Heavily Armed Pussy.

This story has been exploited mercilessly by the usual race-baiting suspects. Watch them ignore the testimony of the witness, now. Doesn’t fit the script. If it don’t fit, you must convict….Zimmerman. And the police chief, and the prosecutor, and let’s throw this lying witness on the pyre while we’re at it. Who wants a barf-bag?

20/20 had a great piece last night about the real victim in the “cyber-bullying” case that sparked the latest round of ridiculousity by the Nanny State gendarmes, including this pantywaist-President who stuck his stupid nose into the case. You should look it up, if you missed it. We need to take the country back from the screaming ninnies, before it’s too late.

We have an office gossip & all-around nasty loud-mouth. She says the most outrageous things. Doesn’t have an edit button on her mouth. I stay away from her as much as possible and don’t understand her popularity at all. Anyway, when I must be near her because of my job, all I can think of is my HS days. She’s awful & I suspect one day her mouth will get herself fired.

it is kind of funny (and not in the “Ha-ha” way) that these two jerks never make a peep about all of the black on black crap going on.

If they would even once take a stand on this and put the effort into solving that problem, they would be perceived as positive by everyone. But, instead, they would rather not acknowledge the internal problems in the black community and blame everything on someone else.

Has Obama or the pony-tailed fatass ever been outraged at the BLACK ON WHITE CRIME? For every Trayvon Martin there’s probably 50 whites that get attacked by blacks.that we never hear about, like the white 13 yr old in Kansas City who had gasoline dumped on him and was set on fire by blacks as they shouted “you got what you deserve, white boy.
Where was Obama’s outrage about this obvious HATE CRIME? And you pony-tailed fatass,with your feigned outrage over Trayvon Martin. Fuck you, you fat piece of fuckin’ shit and fuck Obama too.

Zimmerman’s intentions were to uphold the law, but his mistake was playing citizen on patrol. Yet in neighbourhoods plagued by home invasions, robberies and burglaries, the police are ineffective in providing properly trained protection.

With the Black on Black murder by ganbangers, the intent is to murder, take revenge, commit crime.

Night and day, and what Zimmerman did in a highly unusual event, man bites dog. But the black on black murders are so common place they don’t make the front page.

The truth is what he is in a rage about, in fact all of them know they are living a lie, supporting lies and they vote for liars . So it being they know the truth but must fake, defraud and misdirect each hour day by day month after month year after year.

Anger goes and the mad commie cult of tax and dole spins closer and closer to self destruction. They have been lied to and they lie to themselves now harder and harder, faster and faster. About to implode on each other they are. Blame game soon.

What you see with Charles Johnson is a miniature view of the whole of the Democrat/Commie party.

Remember when all the losers in the MS fuckin’ M predicted that his lying POS, occupying the White House would bring us all together? This Marxist asshole has not only not brought anyone together, he’s caused the racial divide to widen exponentially with shit like this, and when he said the white cops who arrested Professor/professional race hustler Henry Gates “acted stupid” before he even knew what had happened. It’s the same thing here.

Fuck Obama and fuck the pony-tailed fatass and his 17 psycho-phant that read his shithole of a blog.

Well, for myself, I was more disgusted with the right when they went into denial over the lynching of that poor, innocent census worker in Nazi-tucky-land. We made a mistake on that occasion by allowing the Redneck-Police time to do a real investigation, which of course means they had time to cover up for the crackers and let them escape, probably into Tenne-nazi-ville. This time we need to make sure we hang the racist white murderer first, then we’ll have plenty of time to worry about things like evidence.

Bagua :
There is also the difference in intent.
Zimmerman’s intentions were to uphold the law, but his mistake was playing citizen on patrol. Yet in neighbourhoods plagued by home invasions, robberies and burglaries, the police are ineffective in providing properly trained protection.
With the Black on Black murder by ganbangers, the intent is to murder, take revenge, commit crime.
Night and day, and what Zimmerman did in a highly unusual event, man bites dog. But

the black on black murders are so common place they don’t make the front page.

They don’t give a fuck about black on black or black on white crimes because there’s no racial aspect for these losers to exploit to their advantage. Liberals are assholes who only pretend to care.

And they also don’t give a goddamn about Trayvon Martin. Like all liberals, they’re only looking for somethig to exploit to their advantage. If Travon Martin had been shot sitting on his front porch by another black kid, where would their outrage be? And Calypso Louie’s? And $harpton’s? And Jack$on’s? And Obama’s? I’ll tell you where. There’d be NONE! I am so fuckin’ sick of these leftist assholes like Obama it makes my blood fuckin’ boil.

Zimmerman’s intentions were to uphold the law, but his mistake was playing citizen on patrol. Yet in neighbourhoods plagued by home invasions, robberies and burglaries, the police are ineffective in providing properly trained protection.

With the Black on Black murder by ganbangers, the intent is to murder, take revenge, commit crime.

Night and day, and what Zimmerman did in a highly unusual event, man bites dog. But the black on black murders are so common place they don’t make the front page.

Its not like that in every case. There are many innocent Black teenagers killed who are wearing the wrong colors or are confused for others. My point is that this is just a phoney outrage on the part of Sharpton, Jackson, Farrakhan and Jazzy X.

Bagua :
There is also the difference in intent.
Zimmerman’s intentions were to uphold the law, but his mistake was playing citizen on patrol. Yet in neighbourhoods plagued by home invasions, robberies and burglaries, the police are ineffective in providing properly trained protection.
With the Black on Black murder by ganbangers, the intent is to murder, take revenge, commit crime.
Night and day, and what Zimmerman did in a highly unusual event, man bites dog. But the black on black murders are so common place they don’t make the front page.

I blame neighborhood watch. No good can come of a dirty commie group that spies on it’s neighbors./

The real problem here is that we have extremely limited knowledge of what happened between the last 911 call and when the cops arrived on the scene. There are going to be two very different competing narratives, and they’re both plausible.

My guess is that Zimmerman called Martin a coon, and Martin (who was bigger and more athletic than Zimmerman) beat the crap out of him. Zimmerman managed to get his gun out and blasted him.

Self defense? Maybe. Did Zimmerman ask for it? Probably. Legally does this matter? We will see.

Martin was unfamiliar to Zimmerman. He didn’t live there. He was visiting his dad. The neighborhood had a problem with burglary and a home invasion robbery IIRC so you have an armed NW guy out there. Cops can only stop the crime they know about.
Mistake compounds mistake and you get a tragedy.
No crime=no NW= no armed mistakes= no tragedy.
The racism is only for profit.

You’re assuming Zimmerman attacked Martin, as are a lot of people. Martin may have attacked Zimmerman when he realized he was being followed. An ‘attack’ wasn’t justified by either.
When the fight starts, the game changes.

No, I’m assuming he followed Martin and accosted him. That appears obvious at this point.

I don’t assume Zimmerman physically assaulted him, just that he gave Martin just cause to feel threatened.

Follow me down the street in a car at night, get out, and approach me with something other than a smile and I have cause to act in self defense.

Especially if I see you have a gun and I don’t. I’ll try to knock you out before you can use your gun. Unfortunately Martin didn’t get in a knock-out or it would just be a story of a screw-up with a headache.

I think most people would run in that situation, not start throwing punches

what we do know: an eyewitness places Martin on top of Zimmerman. Zimmerman is calling for help to this eyewitness. Zimmerman uses deadly force.

everything else is speculation at this point, unless people have other information.

if I’m on a jury and all I’m presented is the direct evidence of the eyewitness, I do not vote to indict Zimmerman and if I’m on a murder trial, that’s reasonable doubt to me.
guy gets thumped, guy shoots. case closed

whether or not the kid was provoked or felt threatend, we don’t know that and will never know that probably.
sucks for him though. Zimmerman is at fault in my mind for being there but at the end of the day, he used deadly force to defend himself and that’s how the grand jury will find it is my guess

Yes, clearly Zimmerman is at fault for following Martin, getting out of his car, and approaching him. Martin felt threatened, as reported by his call to his girlfriend, but now his side of the story can never be told.

If he ran away he might still be alive, but not everyone runs away when followed and accosted. He was ‘standing his ground’, Zimmerman left his car to get in his face.

I think this is the outcome Zimmerman wanted when he got that gun and became the neighborhood cop.
“not gonna let another one get away” was what I heard him say on the 9-11 call. He had every intention of using his weapon.

whether or not he gets off, he’s not getting off. I think he’s a marked man now and the vigilante justice he provided is coming back at him. I’d be pretty scared it I was him, whether or not he goes to jail.
people like spike lee and icarus johnson want blood and they will probably get it

We had a loudmouth in our office expounding on this yesterday. I said “maybe the police are just getting all their ducks in a row, have you considered that? Maybe they want to make sure that this kid was as clean as he’s being represented to be, Criminal discovery in a lot of states is one way – only the prosecution has to give the defense information. It’ll look really bad if they go to trial and lo and behold, there’s a witness or videotape from some home’s security system that shows that the facts are not as presented. Because I remember some LaCrosse students from Duke that were sliced and diced and convicted by the media and the same poverty pimps all over this story when they were completely innocent,”

I haven’t had a chance to follow this as it appears that the shit hit the fan while I was immersed in discovery at work. However, I’d like to point out that the Divine Dufus and his worshipping fan the Asshat from Culver City are completely silent on the obvious racist crime in Kansas cited by Bob in Breckinridge. Where a white kid was burned within an inch of his life for the crime of being white.

Since the left loves to assign blame – I hold the Democrats, Obama the race-baiting jerk and the Jazzy ponytail responsible.

I think the two perps should be thrown in jail for life, in case you were wondering. This truly is a racist, hate crime and it is a complete shame that the media and the two loud-mouthed “reverends” didn’t make a stink about this.

I will go even further to say that there has been a rash of black on white hate crimes since Obama was elected because of “copped attitudes” by some in the “community”.

But, true to form, only the rare exceptions (white on black) get any traction.

I’ve heard both versions. Unfortunately, there are multiple incompatible versions of the facts running around on the internet. Don’t believe anything you read.

Can anyone explain to me what has caused all this sturm and drang now? From what I understand the incident happened awhile ago. Was there some sort of catalyst that brought this into the headlines. I’m not being snide – like I said I haven’t been able to really follow it and only heard about it because I was listening to Mark Levin’s podcast on the way to work.

That’s a very good question. My guess is that this was just another routine shooting, the local cops deemed it self-defense, and let Zimmerman go, before the story had to bubble up above the noise level and the media got wind of what was potentially a racial thing. Then it got legs.

Black kid gets shot and killed: dog bites man. Black kid gets shot and killed by a vigilante with a white-sounding name, and the cops hose the investigation and let him go: man bites dog.

I’ve really tried to keep my emotions out of this, but to me, this is not racial. If anything it is shitty police work and a tragedy. This Zimmerman guy might have just been itching to use a gun and had a little knowledge of self defense laws.

Once again, CJ is turning tragedy into his triumph by tweeting and posting his racially incendiary stories for nothing other than traffic to his crappy blog.

I agree that this story should have had more coverage. I agree that this is a absolutely shitty crime and that the kid it happened to will carry this with him for the rest of his life. I hope he is alright.

This is typical of the Main Stream Media ignoring something that doesn’t fit their agenda.

For myself…..I’m not so much trying to defend Zimmerman. I’m just trying to counter the lynch mob mentality until we find out what really happened. So far…..

Two shots turn out to be one shot.
Martin crying for help turns out to be Zimmerman crying for help (still questionable).
911 telling Zimmerman not to follow turns out to be saying they don’t need him to follow.
A witness who is somehow able to hear who pushed who over a telephone.

Give the police a chance to sort things out. I haven’t even heard Zimmerman’s side of the story yet.

Bagua. I don’t think anyone is trying to make Martin the guilty party. By the same token, there are conflicting reports as to what happened, some which show that Zimmerman may have acted in self-defense. Let’s wait for the Grand Jury to weigh in.

Bagua :
Yep, I agree Zimmerman is being legally lynched now egged on by the media. To the point were the authorities are stepping aside so new ones can get involved and do the deed.
But trying to turn Martin into the guilty party is also wrong.

unarmed, dead by gunshot….he made this happen somehow…I don’t want him lynched, I want justice…like I said, if he walks, that will be the second crime….this shooting simply cannot be explained away

He had the option of staying in the car and waiting for the police. Period.
This is where everything went downhill. People are blowing this way out of the water with the racism crap. People are throwing gas on the already burning flames where all the information is not out yet.

doppelganger :
I think this is the outcome Zimmerman wanted when he got that gun and became the neighborhood cop.

“not gonna let another one get away” was what I heard him say on the 9-11 call. He had every intention of using his weapon.

whether or not he gets off, he’s not getting off. I think he’s a marked man now and the vigilante justice he provided is coming back at him. I’d be pretty scared it I was him, whether or not he goes to jail.
people like spike lee and icarus johnson want blood and they will probably get it

Bagua :
…….he obviously should have been at home playing nintendo, not playing citizen on patrol.

I was thinking about this. I live in Oakland and every year we have this big “Take Back The Night” event. (It’s great…..lotsa freebies from the 7-11) The general idea is that decent people spend all their time hiding in their homes at night so the “thuggish” element is able to rule the streets…..and if everyone would just get outdoors and get involved then we would have the bad guys so outnumbered they wouldn’t be able to get away with their “whatever.”

So hiding in your apartment is one extreme…….Zimmerman seems to have gone to the other extreme, not just getting involved but going downright overboard. But which, in the long run, is worse? This time there was a very bad result, I think we all agree on that. But letting the worst element run rampant also has bad results……..

doppelganger :
fists are weapons.
you can kill somebody by punching them, as many a person sitting in jail on a murder conviction can attest

so what?…a bee sting can kill you…disregarding this shitty law, it’s an open and shut case…any scenario that puts Zimmerman in deadly force defense is flawed….just how did he get his nose bloodied?…are you disregarding the kids phone calls?….Zimmerman’s too?….pretty damning right there….one shot, point blank, center mass….explain this

I think the main reason a lot of people carry a gun is so they can shoot somebody who is bigger or stronger than them.
so somebody is beating the crap out of me, let’s say I flipped them off in my car and was a dick and provoked them, then I shoot them.

disregarding how Martin came to be on top of Zimmerman, if we are to believe the eyewitness, then Zimmerman was getting a beatdown.

somebody is punching me like that and I have a weapon, even if I instigated the confrontation I am firing it. That’s how I explain the one shot center mass. He was getting his ass kicked as the eyewitness states

almost sounds like you are justifying this shooting…why did Zimmerman position himself to get the ‘crap beat’ out of him?…I have brawled with cops three different times in my miserable life…I was pounded and clubbed with a busted collar bone…sent the the ER, sent to jail, but was never shot…so again, how did this freak get his nose in the way of a 17year olds roundhouse?

this also includes defense against serious bodily injury. I think repeated fists against the head qualifies and since the law in florida was passed nobody has been prosecuted for shooting unarmed citizens who posed this threat, at least if I am to believe what I read

I don’t know. I never brawled with the cops.
I guess you are the expert on hand to hand violence

no I am not justifying this jackass Zimmerman killing this kid. he never should have been there, but no matter how he got there, he was in fact there in the end and am stating that I given the evidence I’ve seen from the eyewitness, that the gunshot was justified at least in terms of how I read the law. the police obviously felt so at the time, now we wait to see what happens when the people that actually have all the facts make that decision

and if I am getting assaulted and I have a chance to defend myself, I do what I have to do and worry about the consequences later.

What shitty law? If, and I repeat IF, Martin had Zimmerman on the ground such that Zimmerman was unable to run away, then the Stand Your Ground law doesn’t even apply. Good old self defense is all Zimmerman needs.

There was no white guy involved here so why are all the pasty white rad lib bloggers and talking heads tv still foaming like it is? Or do they think there was a third mystery man who was white hiding in the shadows who actually did it?

Bagua :
Right haysoos, even with a badge, gun, and sworn authority, police don’t shoot unless they face deadly force. They have something called training in the judicious use of lethal force.
Zimmerman had a gun and a desire to play vigilante.

damndest thing…the cop came to the jail and apologized for the blow that broke my collarbone…he said I was getting the best of his guys and so he clubbed me, the others were trying to ram me with them…HA!…I never had a chance and knew it, but I was young and tough…I have not remembered that episode in thirty years til now….I used to hate cops, now I have boo coo respect for them, but that’s what happened

It’s funny……….I have more arrests than you can throw a rock at (???) but I never had a gripe with the cops. I always figured I did it to myself. (yeah….I was one of those thugs, but a mostly harmless one….)

Excatly hay…cops don’t use ‘lethal force’ unless they have to. You resisted, naturally that is a bad call on your part.
Right now I see Zimmerman as a cop wanna-be. He made the choice to persue and engage.
So who was standing up for themselves? The person being persued or the persuer?
All this racial aspect is wrong.

E. Sophi Guss :
It only takes one bad cop out a dozen to really screw things up. And there are at least that many out there.

I don’t mess with LE anymore…the IRS, yes but not cops…in Albuquerque, if you threaten a cop they will gun you down in a heartbeat..a few years ago they ran some guy off the freeway after a high speed chase…he’s drunk, whips out his cell and two cops shot him 14 times….he was very dead

Pig :
It’s funny……….I have more arrests than you can throw a rock at (???) but I never had a gripe with the cops. I always figured I did it to myself. (yeah….I was one of those thugs, but a mostly harmless one….)

I brawled…if the cops showed up I brawled with them…I was just a ‘fuck it’ kinda guy…I never meant to actually hurt anybody, but a broken arm or jaw wasn’t really hurt in my book…I never stomped anybody in a gutter…that’s for weaklings who got lucky

Has anyone else noticed that when CJ posts his outrage stories, he usually adds a comment 10 minutes later in which he really lets loose teh crazy? It’s his own stupid blog. Why doesn’t he say what he wants to say in the main post? My theory: Less people see the real rabid stuff if it’s not on the main page. And it whips his sycophants into a frenzy wherein he can slather himself with their bounteous karma.

Diogenes :
An observation and a question.
Has anyone else noticed that when CJ posts his outrage stories, he usually adds a comment 10 minutes later in which he really lets loose teh crazy? It’s his own stupid blog. Why doesn’t he say what he wants to say in the main post? My theory: Less people see the real rabid stuff if it’s not on the main page. And it whips his sycophants into a frenzy wherein he can slather himself with their bounteous karma.

that just Lt. Johnson leading from the front…he needs to herd the cats here and there, get them moving a certain direction

One last thing. If Trayvon Martin had been a 60 year old black man in the same situation, coming from the store with Skittles and Milk of Magnesia, visiting his son, there would have been no incident at all. Old guys commit less crime than young guys. Racist?

I’ve made a few “contrary remarks” in this thread just to put up a counterpoint and not be a confrontational dickhead.

The reason I’m being strident is that as more information come leaking out, the more it appears that Zimmerman is being prepped for sacrifice to the Race-Pimp Gods.

Since the resurrection of this case, the twisting and turning by everyone to make it fit their particular political ideology and template is both annoying and disturbing.

I’m sure there are some thinking, “Hey! You’re doing it too, Pakimon! Go blow it out your ass!”

That may be true but I feel compelled To defend Zimmerman because it seems everyone else is either outright or begrudgingly ready to condemn him and totally exonerate Martin.

This portrait of Martin as the innocent little child is complete bullshit.

I suspect that Martin was in fact, just as big as Zimmerman and in a lot better shape.

I’m not saying that he’s a thug out looking for crimes to commit.

He was just another knuckleheaded suburban teenager playing “gangsta’ wannabe”/tough guy just like virtually all the other knuckleheaded teenagers of all races you see these days and in days past.

Unfortunately, he carried the persona he learned from BET, Mtv and pop culture in general to the point where it got him killed.

It’s a tragedy that’s being exploited by race-baiters and “white guilt” idiots of all stripes and it’s a shame because Zimmerman has to live with what happened for the rest of his life and a young adult is dead.

sorry…total bullshit, all of your assumptions, like ‘playing gansta’ are irrelevant…you have no clue as to his personna or what his attitude was when he died…you feel compelled alright, to pretend like you know something you don’t…you don’t even fact check yourself….Zimmerman outweighed his victim by a hundred pounds…what’s complete bullshit again?…what do you presume the kid was guilty of exactly?…BET has nothing to do with this killing…you sound like a total idiot

You don’t know what you’re talking about, Haysoos. Trayvon was 6’2″ tall and a star football player. You sound like a total idiot. You wanted to lynch Zimmerman the second this story broke. Go fuck yourself.