The reason I start from an existing pup_save is, that I have 12 programs installed and I didn't want to loose them. The same counts for personalized setup. f.e. my internet connection worked right away as it had been configured before.

I did the same for KDE 3.5.8 and XFCE 442 and had no problem, so I am a bit disappointed that it didn't work for this Gnome, specially as I did the same thing with an earlier version of Gnome some time ago._________________Time savers:
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Well, really no luck.
I started with pfix=ram and I wasn't offered to make a pup_save file.

So what now? (beta 1)

EDIT:
Forgot to say, that Dingo-Xorg-DRI.pet can't be installed.
Not enough room after it is in /root/.packages
Free space 25110 blocks, needed 82192 for expansion.
As I am still in the stage of pfix=ram I can't increase a pup_safe as there is none and I don't see how I can get more space.
Well I remember vaguely a trick to attach more space from another location to tmpfs, but I have to look for it where that advice was given.

So I am at a stop for the moment.
EDITa:
I found the trick, but it didn't work.
I am afraid I am at a full stop definitely
I have 256MB or ram and from this 119MB free as space to use.
I can't increase this anymore unless I install more ram.
So I am unable to follow the procedure exactly as more space (thus ram) is needed to install the Dingo-Xorg-DRI.pet.

EDITb:
As the beta 2 was out I tried that one and I have the same issue.
What more is, as with the the beta 1 I am even not offered to make a pup_save. This option is jst bypassed.
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English: Ah! Too bad Beem I say this because Gnome in Puppy is really fantastic and very fast! Much faster, I think, than KDE in Puppy!

It's too bad that a remaster of this couldn't be made. I tried but it requires a much better mind than mine unfortunately. Where I stumble is when it calls for a "pristine or edited /etc directory". You can't start with a "pristine" "/etc" directory in the remaster because several directories are there from the Gnome**.sfs and by removing those you cause breakage.

But keep the entire "/etc" and then it can't find your IP address. So for me it was a "no win situation".

However, even with adding the complete SeaMonkey Suite to Dingo Beta, plus Firefox, Thunderbird, two Libfiles needed to run Firefox/TBird, plus a new icon scheme for Gnome/Rox (OxygenRefit & ROX-Oxygen pack), my remaster came in at 225megs which should run on a 256megs of RAM, eh? Or try a "puppy pfix=noram" option perhaps?

That latter option may even help you in your current situation Beem? I've seen it mentioned as an option here, one of the "cheatcodes" that I guess isn't listed when Puppy boots up? Myself, I've never tried it. I should to see if it'll work.

Oh, by the way: When adding Firefox 2.0.0.12 to the mix it does break Epiphany. I should add that note. But I prefer Firefox to Epiphany. (Actually I prefer Galeon but it's no longer being worked on.)

Anyway, would be nice to see this as like a Puppy derrivative as well?

Yes I can confirm that Gnome is more performant then KDE.
It's really bad that the install procedure doesn't work. I think there is an error in the concept of the install as starting with pfix=ram ther isn't enough space to install the DRI having only 256KB. I'll try the pfix=noram, hoping it works in a frugal install. Thanks for the tip._________________Time savers:
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Hmm... did you try the "puppy pfix=noram" and then the "supposed fixed" that can be done for allowing "more size" for .pet installs? I forget precisely what that is---but it's something like changing a number in a certain file from "3" to a "1"---or even a "0"? Sais-tu le fiche du quel je parle mon chum et ou il est situe? J'ai oublie le nom du fiche. Zut! Is the file located in "/usr/sbin" perhaps?

But I make progress.
Mu (mark) instructed me how to make an empty pup_save, so I copied and renamed one and emptied it. It was taken into account on the next boot and I could install the DRI now.
I'll continue the instructions from this point on._________________Time savers:
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Great.
I am in gnome now.
I don't have the missing icons anymore.
I don't have that strange message anymore when gnome starts.
I could reduce the font size from 96 to 72. Nice.
My desktop doesn't match the one shown in the first post. I don't have any of the disk icons, but having a different setup that might be normal.
So I'll investigate further.

Also I agree with Eyes-only. I would prefer FireFox over Epiphany._________________Time savers:
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Configuration of the network done, I am able to write this with Epiphany.
So far so good.
Will continue testing.
And re-installing the installs I lost now.

EDITa:
Having problems with ayttm, I use pidgin instead (also in beta 1 and now 2)
So I installed pidgin in gnome.
The install went ok but I don't find it in a menu.
Starting from a terminal it's working ok however.
Is there a special trick to get installed programs in the menu.
I know in JWM it's fixmenus. In Gnome?????

I verifyed the date and time. But inspite the tiime is in the 24 hour format when setting, it doesn't display in the 24 hour format in the tray.
And I don't see a setting for this. How can this be achieved?

And oh, can I remind the question I asked before.
Is there a way to have somewere in the tray the remaining memory displayed?_________________Time savers:
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I don't have any of the disk icons, but having a different setup that might be normal.

Please check if there are icons for your drives in 'Computer':
If it has only one icon for 'Network' HAL was not correctly installed(you must add the 'haldaemon' group and user before install HAL). The first step(start without any pup_save) is a must.

Béèm wrote:

Having problems with ayttm, I use pidgin instead (also in beta 1 and now 2)
So I installed pidgin in gnome.
The install went ok but I don't find it in a menu.
Starting from a terminal it's working ok however.
Is there a special trick to get installed programs in the menu.
I know in JWM it's fixmenus. In Gnome?????

Run this command:

Code:

update-desktop-database

and wait few seconds, if the menu wasn't refreshed try to kill gnome-panel, restart GNOME, or reboot the computer._________________

I did the addgroup and adduser commands.
But you refer to a HAL install. I don't see this in the instructions in the first post.
I don't have all the icons in computer (see pic)

I don't have a swap partition and didn't think of trying my swapfile.
But in any case, as I said before, in my installation whan starting dingo with pfix=ram, no pup_save is offered to make at shutdown. I immediately get the message Session not saved. I don't know why this happens and I made a post in bugs about this.

Therefor the only way to get out of this is create an empty pup_save file and work with this. I had to do the same thing with muppy008, where after pfix=ram no pup_save (well mup_save) file was offered to make.

I can try again with a swap file actif but as I can't get a pup_save to be created it seems to me, it's a waist of time.

I did the addgroup and adduser commands.
But you refer to a HAL install. I don't see this in the instructions in the first post.

Not exactly, but it's the first step (no pup_save).

Béèm wrote:

But in any case, as I said before, in my installation whan starting dingo with pfix=ram, no pup_save is offered to make at shutdown. I immediately get the message Session not saved. I don't know why this happens and I made a post in bugs about this.

I supposed that people testing Dingo knew about that bug (since pup_397).
To avoid it you can:

1. Before booting from the LiveCD make sure that there are no pup_sav*.2fs files in your disks.
OR
2. If booting through "GRUB" add the "psubdir" option to menu.lst. Example: pup_398.sfs; zdrv_398.sfs; initrd.gz and vmlinuz are in (hda6)/puppy398

It's simple, HAL is already installed in the SFS. However it will not work if "haldaemon"(user and group) wasn't created. (yes, I know that I could compile HAL to use the root group and account, but that would cause more problems than it would solve.)

I did many tests before share this SFS and HAL sometimes refused to work if gnome.sfs was installed/mounted before add "haldaemon" or if it was installed to a previously created pup_save. So, to avoid problems to other users I had to write those install instructions._________________