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... Take thou thy arms and come with me,
for we must quit ourselves as men,
and strive to aid our cause although we be of two.
Great is the strength of feeble arms combined,
and we can combat even with the brave .

... Take thou thy arms and come with me,
for we must quit ourselves as men,
and strive to aid our cause although we be of two.
Great is the strength of feeble arms combined,
and we can combat even with the brave .

--Homer's iliad Bk XIII Line 289

Except if your wrong.

__________________"Realize deeply that the present moment is all you ever have." (Eckhart Tolle, 2004)

Email received from the "dot gov"
One - my return verification email failed to reach the reply address supplied
and my signature was not tallied.
Two - my return verification was received but not tallied by error.
Three - The petition tally ratchet is disabled.

Monday 01-30-2017 --23 days left to accumulate the required number of signatures to validate the petition.

UPDATE -the email I received from the whitehouse .GOV server has a "help" link that is likewise disabled.
In addition the petition sign page is now disabled as well.
This message is now delivered to all citizens wishing to sign the petition....

Quote:

404 Page Not Found

Sorry, the page you're looking for can't be found.
Here are some useful pages:

Location: Where there's never a road broader than the back of your hand.

Posts: 1,879

Originally Posted by Fonebone

Monday 01-30-2017 --23 days left to accumulate the required number of signatures to validate the petition.

UPDATE -the email I received from the whitehouse .GOV server has a "help" link that is likewise disabled.
In addition the petition sign page is now disabled as well.
This message is now delivered to all citizens wishing to sign the petition....
The tilted playing field the 9-11 truth seekers are forced to compete on
has become a vertical wall. Bic ?

Curious. I've just clicked the link to the petition, and it's working fine. Almost as if there was no evil conspiracy to shut down the truth movement at all.
How could that be?
Still only one signature, by the way.

Kind of weird though. I signed just to see, got the email link, clicked it and got a confirmation. Counter still says one.

You've successfully signed the petition below. Your signature has been verified and counted.
Open a new investigation into the events of 911 and incorporate the forensic evidence offered by ae911truth.org.
Help the petition reach its goal, share with others:

Location: Where there's never a road broader than the back of your hand.

Posts: 1,879

Originally Posted by fagin

Kind of weird though. I signed just to see, got the email link, clicked it and got a confirmation. Counter still says one.

You've successfully signed the petition below. Your signature has been verified and counted.
Open a new investigation into the events of 911 and incorporate the forensic evidence offered by ae911truth.org.
Help the petition reach its goal, share with others:

Possibly set up by an idiot who didn't get the counter working.

Or a deep dark conspiracy....

It may not have shown up on the petition page, but it did flag up on your NWO personnel record. You are clearly in breach of our secret policy to publicly oppose any further investigation, thus thwarting any attempts by concerned citizens to find out the Real Truth.
Expect a visit from Internal Affairs in the next couple of days. You may also want to start clearing out your desk.

Kind of weird though. I signed just to see, got the email link, clicked it and got a confirmation. Counter still says one.

You've successfully signed the petition below. Your signature has been verified and counted.
Open a new investigation into the events of 911 and incorporate the forensic evidence offered by ae911truth.org.
Help the petition reach its goal, share with others:

Possibly set up by an idiot who didn't get the counter working.

Or a deep dark conspiracy....

Even worse experience. Was scrolling up page with touchpad, cursor stopped on a quote with a link, when I touched the pad to continue scrolling up, got the same confirmation notice. Welcome to the Whacko Watchlist.

Monday 01-30-2017 --23 days left to accumulate the required number of signatures to validate the petition.

UPDATE -the email I received from the whitehouse .GOV server has a "help" link that is likewise disabled.
In addition the petition sign page is now disabled as well.
This message is now delivered to all citizens wishing to sign the petition....
The tilted playing field the 9-11 truth seekers are forced to compete on
has become a vertical wall. Bic ?

Update #2 Wednesday 02-01-2017 --21 days left to validate this petition.
As a test I chose another petition created three days before the 9-11
petition concerning Mr Trump's "emoluments clause " and signed/verified
same. Again, my signature was acknowledged but the petition tally was not
increased. This petition has 479329 signatures and the ratchet is disabled.
The 9-11 investigation petition created 3 days later is still frozen at one signature.
--WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN PETITIONS from "WE the PEOPLE" ? --

__________________Truth, like the sun, allows itself to be obscured;but, like the sun, only for a time __Bovee

The creator of the petition most certainly signed the it and one truth seeker
-Fonebone -acknowledged signing it and two deniers admit signing it.
That brings the acknowledged total to at least Four.
Both the petition ratchets are now frozen.

__________________Truth, like the sun, allows itself to be obscured;but, like the sun, only for a time __Bovee

The creator of the petition most certainly signed the it and one truth seeker
-Fonebone -acknowledged signing it and two deniers admit signing it.
That brings the acknowledged total to at least Four.
Both the petition ratchets are now frozen.

It is lie a petition for Bigfoot. Your claims are fantasy for 9/11. At least the White House now has the few names of people who spread lies about 9/11 without thinking. It could be used to measure the failure of education, or flag people who believe in fantasy.

The petition starts with a lie, who would be gullible enough to sign a petition based on a Big lie?

BTW, the Trump White House will not be working for the people who sign petition, they have stopped this, they make up the truth, they don't need your help spreading fake news about 9/11; they will spread the lies, not you. They will be investigating their own fantasy claims, not those made up by people who are gullible and fall for lies like CD.

How do you know the creator signed it? He might be making up a petition to mock 9/11 truth - the petition has a big lie in the first line.

Perhaps, it was because one particular person jammed the system as he tried to manipulate the numbers with his own signature thousands of times.

Perhaps you can supply a link or evidence of the existence and actions
of this one particular person. I think the jamming or numbers manipulation of a
government website or computer could be a criminal offense. Bic?

__________________Truth, like the sun, allows itself to be obscured;but, like the sun, only for a time __Bovee

Perhaps you can supply a link or evidence of the existence and actions
of this one particular person. I think the jamming or numbers manipulation of a
government website or computer could be a criminal offense. Bic?

Trumps executive order banned petitions based on idiotic claims and lies.

Location: Where there's never a road broader than the back of your hand.

Posts: 1,879

fonebone: Could you please link to the new forensic evidence that AE911Truth has published?
You know, the evidence that presumably prompted you to sign this petition, and which might also persuade others to follow suit? I would hate to think that such an august organisation, composed of so many experts and possessing such fearlessness, determination and drive, had not, in fact, published any new forensic evidence at all, but was merely engaged in yet another self-publicising but otherwise pointless venture.

Trump thinks the petition stuff is Obama stuff, and he is stopping all Obama stuff.

It appears the new government is taking the signatures and the signers are being herded into FEMA camps, Alex Jones is the FEMA camp commander for Trump, and ... oops, this is TRUMP SECRET... don't tell anyone.

Trump thinks the petition stuff is Obama stuff, and he is stopping all Obama stuff.

It appears the new government is taking the signatures and the signers are being herded into FEMA camps, Alex Jones is the FEMA camp commander for Trump, and ... oops, this is TRUMP SECRET... don't tell anyone.

This sure beats the CD idiotic fantasy of woo

Your silver tongue with oily words preside
and make the weaker seem the the stronger side. _Walser

__________________Truth, like the sun, allows itself to be obscured;but, like the sun, only for a time __Bovee

Your silver tongue with oily words preside
and make the weaker seem the the stronger side. _Walser

posting quotes to cover up the lack of evidence, a 9/11 truth smoke screen... a failed tactic for those who support lies of 9/11 truth, a movement of lies.

The failed petition starts with a lie.

The petition starts with a Big Lie a fringe few fall for. CD has to be dumbest claim in history, essentially Richard Gage is apologizing for 19 terrorists who were proud to kill Americans, and now Gage says they did not do, it was CD. Fire did it, due to the acts of 19 terrorists. A petition for failed followers.

It is kind of scary, because Gage believes it was CD, Richard Gage makes up a lie that our government did it. I think he is crazy enough to do something this dumb; Gage's best work only helps provide comfort to the Boston bombers, Gage's fellow 9/11 truth nuts, who might feel justified killing Americans since Gage implies we did 9/11 to ourselves. An insane claim for someone who look a lot like a cult leader waiting for a Comet Woo on 9/11...

Dumb petitions for lies and fantasy of CD. Dumb petition, for gullible followers.

Location: Where there's never a road broader than the back of your hand.

Posts: 1,879

Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak

fonebone: Could you please link to the new forensic evidence that AE911Truth has published?
You know, the evidence that presumably prompted you to sign this petition, and which might also persuade others to follow suit? I would hate to think that such an august organisation, composed of so many experts and possessing such fearlessness, determination and drive, had not, in fact, published any new forensic evidence at all, but was merely engaged in yet another self-publicising but otherwise pointless venture.

Originally Posted by Fonebone

Your silver tongue with oily words preside
and make the weaker seem the the stronger side. _Walser

The error you make, Fonebone, is suggesting that those with eyes haven't had a look, and those with ears haven't listened.

__________________The Conservatives want to keep wogs out and march boldly back to the 1950s when Britain still had an Empire and blacks, women, poofs and Irish knew their place. The Don That's what we've sunk to here.

fonebone: Could you please link to the new forensic evidence that AE911Truth has published?
You know, the evidence that presumably prompted you to sign this petition, and which might also persuade others to follow suit? I would hate to think that such an august organisation, composed of so many experts and possessing such fearlessness, determination and drive, had not, in fact, published any new forensic evidence at all, but was merely engaged in yet another self-publicising but otherwise pointless venture.

point one- I am not a member of the AE911truth and have no connection
with that group whatsoever.
I am an independent researcher and signed the petition under my own volition.

Point two- I previously attempted to offer you "forensic evidence" that you failed to comprehend.

We comprehended it; it just wasn't "forensic evidence" for what you wanted to claim it was "forensic evidence" for.

Dave

__________________Me: So what you're saying is that, if the load carrying ability of the lower structure is reduced to the point where it can no longer support the load above it, it will collapse without a jolt, right?