I can hardly hear them. I am so used to hearing modern pop-rock CDs with loud,aggressive high end in the drums/percussion that I was pretty shocked when I heard this CD. It's like the drum kit came without HH and cymbals.

The OH/Hi-Hats appear to be mixed very low, and without pushing the highs.

I had a revelation the day I went to a gig, the drummer was late so someone sat in but he had no cymbals whatsoever. I just loved that.We have a producer here who very often says to the drummer: no cymbals. One day a drummer came with his cymbals and said: i just feel more comfortable having them installed, although I won't use them. The producer agreed, but finally scrapped the take and hired another drummer.

they're mixed low, he might not have laid into them quite like a lot guys do, and he plays GIANT cymbals, so they have a lower pitch to them, which I think contributes to the effect. I enjoy it. really wish i had 400-500 bucks to blow on a couple of 17" thin crashes to use as hi-hats!

they're mixed low, he might not have laid into them quite like a lot guys do, and he plays GIANT cymbals, so they have a lower pitch to them, which I think contributes to the effect. I enjoy it. really wish i had 400-500 bucks to blow on a couple of 17" thin crashes to use as hi-hats!

BTW - you might want to go to http://repforums.prosoundweb.com [the "new and improved" R/E/P forums] and ask Mr. Brauer [one of the new moderators for "Whatever Works"] about this... after all he did win a Grammy

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mwagener wrote on Sat, 11 September 2004 14:33We are selling emotions, there are no emotions in a grid

"Recording engineers are an arrogant bunch. If you've spent most of your life with a few thousand dollars worth of musicians in the studio, making a decision every second and a half... and you and they are going to have to live with it for the rest of your lives, you'll get pretty arrogant too. It takes a certain amount of balls to do that... something around three" Malcolm Chisholm