Where is the line drawn?

Personally, I see no issue with the attached images...a bit of hue, lighting effects and saturation? Still "looks" like the same woman. It's still valid "digital enhancement". Girl in image looks "normal" before or after tweakery.

But what about a mole? One might be ok...but two? or ten? Freckles? freckles come and go naturally, depending on exposure to sunlight...can they be edited back to the "winter" setting?

And what about models who do their own "internal" modifications? Bulgarian airbags being the most notable? Is that still cheating - there wouldn't need to be any digital tweaking, so Dove's criteria could still be met?

Where you actually change the physical characteristic of the model though (digitally or surgically)...that's where the line should be drawn IMO. But I suspect regulation will be near impossible...

Re: Prevented millions from accessing their accounts?

9pm at night with no card transactions and no ATM. Anyone out for dinner or drinks using RBS was knackered.

That would limit it to politicians and Traders, as everyone else in the country is too skint to eat out midweek. Then again, the politicians probably wouldn't be paying for it anyway - it's all on "expenses". So it's just the traders then. No biggie.

Tasty indeed...but on my honeymoon I pretty much had venison every night. Chef did a spectacular job, no question there...but after 7 nights of it, I needed "a rest". Venison is not a "consume daily" food - it's quite rich.

My PC runs my turbo trainer, and is win7. I have a XP VM, but haven't opened or needed it in 6 months. I don't even have an MS mouse or keyboard.

I haven't bought anything new from MS in many, many months, nor do I see any reason to in the future either. Worse still - I build my family's IT the same way, and MS won't be getting any future business from them either.

This is MS's problem - all traditional *consumer* revenue channels are drying up, as educated people (and their families) find better and/or cheaper alternatives. And with win8/TIKFAM, now the corporates are starting to think that way too.

Re: ..verry funny article...@ Neil.

Have you used TIFKAM? particularly on a nontouch PC? There are so many fundamental interface/UI fails it beggars belief.

To extend the gas cooker analogy...TIKFAM is a gas cooker that has the main ignite control hidden down the side of the cooker, the gas control dials are hidden under flaps, which themselves have no visible means of operation, and you can only use one hob at a time, unless you lift up the cooker top surface, and attach your own hobs underneath. And there are absolutely no labels or instructions on anything.

Nothing to see here...

If you forget or refuse to pay a parking ticket, you might find the subsequent admin and penalty fees can equal or exceed the original amount. Forget/refuse again, and expect even bigger penalties.

Admittedly the decimal point moved a few places along the fee figure, but MS is equally is guilty - it got a fine, and "forgot" to pay that fine. So it got penalised. If it forgets again, the next figure will be even larger.

It's all a very simple concept...even if the scale of the figures are considerably larger. Not really a big deal.

However, it is going to be funny seeing how ineffective a popup box will be, given how much the market (and browser shares) have moved on since the original judgement.

Re: The very simple point that everyone has missed...

Re. the amount - IIRC this was decided via a complicated equation involving % market share, MS' declared EU turnover and approximate losses incurred by competitors since the monopoly was established. Though I'm sure the judges will say that's what they did...they probably actually did the "finger-in-the-air-then-double-it" estimation.

Re: Contactless

Thank you Larry - my downvoters be aware - contactless does not always mean that, nor does it mean germ-free, what with sweat evaporation and air flow. it just needs close proximity. See also telephone microphone speakers - you don't touch that (merely breathe on it), but it's germ heaven.

if done poorly, a severed hand would not contain blood, so most vessels would be empty, and thus thinner than expected. Or perhaps it's simply looking for body temperature.

You would need to kill the victim via poison (puncture wounds may cause excess blood loss), then sever the hand fingers down. Then flash freeze to ensure the veins are frozen in their "open" state. For use, it will be thawed, then you would need to transport the hand fingers down, and perhaps with a wax seal over the stump. You would then need to microwave it back to *exactly* body temperature a few seconds before scanning.

Re: Fingerprint sensor...

Rumour tri-fection

FFS...more rumours...

I'm surprised nobody has gone the whole hog and come up with "Apple rumour trifecta". eg:

"Apple's new 5S will automagically syncronise music and apps with iwatch via bluetooth 5, and enable you to take facetime and skype calls using your Apple TV, while simultanously streaming 2K content from your iTV gen 5."

Re: The original for this tech dates from the late 1960s

What's slightly annoying is that the ethical concerns were that the effects *permanently* modified a patients behaviour or personality (even after refinement of the process, there was still overspill into other parts of the brain), even when the evidence was it was only temporary and only lasted as long as stimulation occured.

Re: This is it!

Re: Wrong, but not ridiculous?

Yep - it's true. Ask any competitive roadie if you like - there is a definite effect. The fact that some of the fastest Time Trial courses use busy roads is no coincidence.

And re: 500watts...yes, that pretty close. However, aerodynamics are crucial here. At that speed you won't be sitting bolt upright like Mary Poppins...Think closer to 350watts with traffic assist, which most amateur riders can hold for extended periods.

Re: Facepalm...

Cyclists think they're precious little jewels who don't need to follow the same rules as everyone else (like coughing up money or obeying the rules of the road) and throw a hissy fit if you hold them to the same standards they hold others

Whereas car owners who think they're better than everything else on the road is ok is it? And that all other road users are inferior or that rulings and amenities to provide safety to other road users is somehow a discrimination against them? Well, well...

It should be noted, I despise the red light and pavement riders as well. Really doesn''t do the image of cyclists any favours. And i'm a cyclist!

Re: UK: Cyclists already pay for the upkeep of roads, as do pedestrians

I'm a cyclist and a car driver (as most are btw Mr Troll), and I have the following suggestion.

To save having to listen to the ill educated whiners going on about "oh cyclists don't pay tax"...I propose that VED version 1.0 is scrapped, and VED version 2.0 taxes applied to all road using vehicles, based on the vehicle's kerb weight x by the number of wheels (as weight is what damages roads).

2.5p per kilo is about right. So a 1,200kg car will pay around the same as now - £120. A 3.5t van...£525.

So my 8kg bike will pay...40p. It's a fair cop. Apart from the bit where it will probably cost the Government at least £1 to process every application and it's payment...

Re: What about stairs?

And that's not to mention the CO2 produced by people having sex.....

It's worse than that. If the sex results in pregnancy it means elevated metabolic requirements for 9 months, followed by an additional and parrallel aerobic system being started, which is likely to be constantly producing CO2 for another 85 years afterwards.

So much, much worse than cycling. Time for Dr Breen's supression field, methinks...

Re: Wrong, but not ridiculous?

I'm not sure I'd manage a steady 35km/h - I'm probably ambling making about 15km/h through the city. Maybe you are wasted in front of computer and a career in cycle couriership might be beckoning.

Actually, that's only < 22mph. With flat roads and the wind assistance of passing traffic, this is easily achievable with a modicum of effort. With a bit of training on a road bike/"racer", 27-28mph is perfectly possible to maintain on more open sections.

Re: Cyclists are not 'required' to wear anything

Re: And you're stuck behind a bicycle?

a) Cyclists are not allowed on Freeways (assuming US)

b) Even a cyclist mental enough to do this, Freeways have hard shoulders. They would not ride in the traffic unless they wanted to die

c) Freeways are 2 lanes wide and fast, and if you're approaching at your 120kph, the last thing you would be doing is slowing down to follow a cyclist. If you are, please - walk - to the nearest Police station and hand in your licence.