Standing naturally is REALLY HARD. Farmers spend their days bent to the earth, techno-people spend their days sitting at a desk, etc. The body adapts, and deforms, and loses its natural efficiency. This is a Bad Thing(tm).

Anyway. What muscles is one supposed to use to stand straight? Assume the body is only 'actively' doing two things, in addition to everything else it needs to do to stay alive - breathing and standing.

Major bonus points for a diagram of the body that shows these muscles highlighted vs. other muscles that aren't used.

Here's a quick example - in internal arts like tai chi, a LOT of emphasis is placed, early on, on standing and slow movements. These teach you where your balance is and how your weight shifts. Over time, you learn to fix your alignment and only use the muscles you need, because it's easier and less work if you use fewer muscles. The direct advantage of that is that, at full speed, you're also using fewer muscles -- so you're less likely to have antagonistic muscles tensed up, so you're likely to be much faster. Much faster also means more powerful. And harder to stop. And harder to see.

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@Trevoke - Can you rephrase the question to tie it into a specific martial art or clarify exactly what you are asking as to why it relates?
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robFeb 1 '12 at 2:45

@RobZ Standing is the basis for kamae and walking is the basis for kata. There are arts which focuses just on standing (static posture training), and applications come out of flowing from kamae to kamae. This is not an off-topic question. However, answering this specific question -- I'll leave that to other folk.
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Ho-Sheng HsiaoFeb 1 '12 at 2:53

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@Ho-ShengHsiao - Context is what makes a question on or off topic because evetually they want the questions to be searchable by people on Google. Without more context to a question, i.e. tai chi in the revised question, there isn't much to separate it from a basic anatomy question even though someone might be interested in it specifically due to the applications to a martial arts.
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robFeb 1 '12 at 3:02

Technically, equating it to "Nanba" could include it in the realm of martial arts, as Nanba (Japanese Walking) is a component of Kobujutsu taisabaki. I do not know, however, if there is a Chinese or other equivalent...
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stslavikFeb 1 '12 at 16:39

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**Occidental people** tend to develop very bad habits when it comes to standing. Not enough walking, too much sitting, too much puffing of the chest -- and so on. Take a look to any chinese,japanese, indian teenager and you'll change your mind very quickly about this one. As for the real question, it's not totally in-topic, bad expressed, mixed with personal opinion. Take the time to reflect about what information you really need and re-formulate the question accordingly.
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taconeFeb 3 '12 at 15:01

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Interesting question... I didn't really give this enough thought before, so I'll relate it to martial arts by way of kobujutsu taisabaki to keep it on topic.

Standing, and thus stance (kamae) in kobujutsu, is a vital aspect of proper positioning relative to the opponent. Asayama Ichiden-ryu, Masaki-ryu, Kukishin-ryu, Yagyu Shingan-ryu all stress the importance of the alignment of the spine, maintenance of the position of the shoulders over the hips, and proper stability of the legs and positioning of the feet. In other words, all stress the importance of natural body posture.

The human body when standing is in a state of constant dynamic movement; essentially, every muscle of the body is activated to one degree or another at different points. There is a constant and near imperceptible swaying along the saggital (forward/backward in relation to vision) plane, causing an action in the toes, the knees tensing and relaxing, the hips maintaining relative alignment with the shoulders, the core muscles activated. To show a diagram of this would require a video of the various muscles of the body being lit up at different times as impulses are sent at impossibly high rates of speed to maintain relative balance.

Posture, however, is a different thing. Good posture (also called "neutral spine") is the maintenance of the three natural curves (cervical, thoracic, and lumbar, in order from top to bottom) of the spine along the saggital plane without significant deviation along the coronal (left/right in relation to vision) plane. Here you're activating, again while standing, the gluteus, lumbar, thoracic, and cervical muscle groups to maintain the proper alignment, aided by the rest of the body to protect balance.

Movement (walking) among Oriental (differentiating from Occidental) cultures in the past differed significantly more from their Occidental counterparts than they do today. Take, for example, the Japanese. The Japanese had a unique method of walking influenced by their clothing, environmental habits, and body development; today this method is referred to as Nanba (ナンバ). The wearing of kimono necessitated, and the act of kneeling assisted, a form of movement in which the shoulders remained in constant alignment with the hips (Westerners walking for extended periods in kimono may find a rather annoying habit of constantly retying the obi as the whole ensemble comes open). This form of walking, which happens to be natural, less tiring, and capable of allowing one to travel further with less energy, also happens to keep the spine properly aligned and the balance properly situated in a direct line from crown through the abdomen and down to the ground. It was no surprise that the Japanese yoroi (armor) was so easily maneuvered by a people who naturally moved in a method that facilitated the wearing of that armor.

Technically speaking, every culture has different nuances to its movements. Asian cultures, specifically, tend to move with more hips; Russians lead with their abdomens; Americans slouch; Brits move upright and with a purpose; and Germans move with a rather stomping swagger. The ways people stand and move are directly related to the society in which they grew up. You can't necessarily generalize across the board.

We're trending off-topic, but I find this response fascinating. Do you know of any good on-line resources which go into these nuances of posture in more detail?
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RophuineFeb 6 '12 at 2:56

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@Rophuine: In attempting to maintain topic, I can point you to Kono Yoshinori (甲野善紀) as the martial artist from whom I first became acquainted with Nanba as an aspect of kobujutsu. As for Nanba, the best online resource is here. Beyond that, I can only say research anatomy.
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stslavikFeb 6 '12 at 16:41