Poll Question: Feb. 22, 2018

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Think of a Gun Ban like a disease vaccination against an epidemic

The NRA people tell you assault bans and gun regulations only work when there is 100% compliance to those rules, that all it takes is one person out there to bring down all of law-abiding society.

Does prevention against a Smallpox epidemic depend on 100% compliance? Heck no! The idea is that enough people be protected so that the disease's progression through the public community is slowed down enough so that business can go on as usual, providing the resources needed to go after and take care of the few non-adherents that do get sick. Hard to keep people fed when everyone is sick, hard to keep the flow of money going when all the workers and customers are sick. But if most of them are okay, they can keep things going and take care of the small number of sick at the same time.

That's the real goal of a ban on assault weapons... when law abiding people cannot get them, then there will not be as many made by the gun makers, nor as many floating around among the public at large, so it will be harder for the wanton lone-wolf to get his warm hands on one.

Oh, the military has them? That is also why they stay locked up in armories under guard most of the time, they can be rolled out quickly when the time is needed.

That is exactly what the 2nd amendment meant by a "well regulated militia", they never said that guns should not exist or that common people should not be trained in how to use them. You can think of your hunting gun as the training needed for the important part, how to aim at a target and hit it, how to make sure that if you miss, that one of your own is not going to get hit by accident.

SE Wisc. Citizen22 days ago

DON'T LISTEN TO NRA ADVOCATES, RESTRICTIONS WILL WORK

It will take awhile but a ban on all assault style weapons will work. A ban with significant penalties, including prison time for both buyer and seller, will be a deterrent and make it much more difficult to obtain a war weapon.To do nothing, to add more weapons into schools, is insanity. There is a reason America is the leader by astronomical numbers in shooting deaths, mass shootings, and injuries by gun - the NRA and it's passionate advocates who value access to weapons of mass murder over human life. The gun makers, ammo companies, and others fund the NRA who in turn make who responded of "elected" politicians. Again, human lives are way down the list when it comes to these "people" who would sacrifice your son, daughter, mother, father, and sister for profit.To be sure, all one has to do is look at the era of the assault rifle ban and compare it to just the last six years - the ban does work.Anyone who claims otherwise has a hidden agenda and is more than willing to sacrifice our family members for profit, insane ideas of what the second amendment protects, and political whoring.

Rick Yanda25 days ago

Freedom is not Free

Cannot make an omelet if you don't break a few eggs.

Or phrases like "No Victory Without Sacrifice".

It is the typical war-mongers mentality... to get the "greater good" of winning against those outsiders and opponents, you have to accept a small amount of loss of your own. Everyone wants somebody of their own to make some "sacrifice".

An "American man" is supposed to take out BIG life insurance on himself, (only "burial policies" on his wife and kids), he is supposed to work himself into an early death by cancer or heart-attack, sacrificing himself for the benefit of his wife and kids.

Even the gun-carrying security man would not "sacrifice" his own safety by going in while the shooting was in progress. Cannot sacrifice a good, red-voting gun carrier, he needs to know the perp is out of bullets or unable to shoot back before he can exercise his power and later brag about being the hero.

The goal of all these guns is to have them owned and carried by white Christian Americans, ready to take down as many non-whites, non-Christians, or non-Americans as they can when the situation clearly calls for it.

Think there can be any marches over Selma's Edmund Pettus Bridge if all the "good" white country folks on the other side had AR-15s?

Unfortunately, that is what the "wish" was by these people. It is Racist!

There was not as much outrage for a shoot-up of a gay night-club.

There was not as much outrage against a bunch of schoolkids shot up in a school in a blue-voting state.

There was not as much outrage against shoot-ups in Colorado, California, or any college, also not known for strong red-voting.

But a shoot-up in Florida? Now that went over the line.

It is all about WHO gets shot up, whose "future leaders" were shot down as children?

As for "profit", yes, there is a "Military-Industrial" complex, and even a WWII general and a Republican former President ("Ike" Eisenhower) said to beware of this well-funded group. Trump feeds this, it means spending tax dollars on this kind of private sector, but only if it can be done at the expense of where the blue votes come from.

SE Wisc. Citizen21 days ago

Restrictions won't work, Mental Health screening won't work either

1) Outlaws will still get their AR-15s, they are "more free" than law abiding citizens, we restrict our actions within the confines of the law, the outlaw has no limits.

As in "A Bronx Tale", this is why people "respect" the gangster more than the president of the United States himself. "Respect" or "Fear", there is no difference in the mindset of a Conservative, or the mindset of someone who depends on others with more wealth. They use the term "God-Fearing" instead of "God-Respecting", right? It is the fear of eternal suffering in the afterlife that keeps most believers on the straight and narrow path. This is why they do not trust an Atheist, they think an Atheist has no fear of this after death, so they will get their kicks (at the expense of others) today.

I even remember a mother who once said of her son, "He could become the President, he could become the next Al Capone." And she said it like she did not really care which way it went, might have even preferred the Al Capone outcome. Did you ever hear of anyone messing with Al Capone's mother? (If they did, they did not get away with it. Even an Atheist will think twice.)

2) Calling it a "Mental Health" problem. How is that going to work? Require the shrinks to tattle tale on their clients? They won't have any honest revelations from their client if their clients knew they would do this. Parents also will not take their children in for therapy and analysis either if it could land them with a bad reputation in the community.

Remember, the Bill of Rights is about government limits in the face of accusation, it is NOT how real people live their lives. The founding fathers clearly knew this, and did not want to see this happen, knowing full well that only white male landowners had any right to vote. Imagine how they would have used this "minority rule" democracy to set up laws to favor them with no concern for those who could not vote.

SE Wisc. Citizen26 days ago

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