It was your guys' line of thinking. You guys were saying that a parent should never teach a child with mental health issues how to use a gun. I simply pointed out that you idiots, when you teach your 12 year olds how to shoot, don't know whether you are doing that or not.

<quoted text>It was your guys' line of thinking. You guys were saying that a parent should never teach a child with mental health issues how to use a gun. I simply pointed out that you idiots, when you teach your 12 year olds how to shoot, don't know whether you are doing that or not.

<quoted text>So, you would alter the normal upbringing of children out of fear of potential mental illness.Why don't you just place kids in a rubber room from age 11 to 25, then?

You aren't paying attention. XXX said it was irresonsible for a parent to teach a kid with mental illness how to use a gun. My point is, since you teach your kids how to shoot at 12, you don't know whether you are teaching a kid with mental illness how to shoot or not. Dig it?

<quoted text>You aren't paying attention. XXX said it was irresonsible for a parent to teach a kid with mental illness how to use a gun. My point is, since you teach your kids how to shoot at 12, you don't know whether you are teaching a kid with mental illness how to shoot or not. Dig it?

I know what you've been saying since the start. The point is, you raise children on the presumption that they are going to be normal, both physically and mentally until there is evidence to the contrary.Nancy Lanza apparently had such evidence a decade ago and made some really bad decisions.

<quoted text>There were numbers behind them. She offered to get them for you. What she was able to link to was called an abstract. An abstract is a brief explanation of the study and its results. The numbers and explanation you desire is contained in the complete report the abstract summarizes.The disparity in crack versus powder cocaine sentences had nothing to do with priors or anything else. It was simply that the statutes punished possession or sale of the same weight of crack much more severely than the possession or sale of the same weight of powder.

No, she (I'm presuming you are correct about the gender) said there were no specifics or breakdown in the numbers. Just like there are no breakdowns for the criminals who get busted for drugs. Just plain numbers--that's it. The rest is up to your imagination.

<quoted text>Wow I read he entered through a window. Are you not aware of bullet proof glass and doors.I am not talking about your 9MM with a 12 Rd clip. We are talking extended Magazines and Drums that hold 100 Rounds. Assault Rifles, made for killing people. You know, like the ones REAGAN wanted BANNED. Almighty Ronald Reagan.Apparently you can't see that Shooting ranges can be modified. Big surprise. I have been there before. Of course they are not ready now. I can tell you don't want to be away from your beloved weapons.

I read he shot the locks out. Who knows this early in the game? In any event, when you can show me some kind of evidence that smaller clips will stop school shootings or even interrupt the shooter, then I'll say fine. What I see now are baby steps towards more control over our guns while at the same time solving nothing, and ignoring more important issues in school shootings like armed security guards or personnel, police siren on the roof of the building, how to improve our communications and treatment of the mentally ill. Easy access for parents with troubled children or even adults.

The Colorado shooter had body armor--armor not legal to own in America. If he could get his hands on that, what makes you think larger clips would not be readily available to those who want them?

<quoted text>You aren't paying attention. XXX said it was irresonsible for a parent to teach a kid with mental illness how to use a gun. My point is, since you teach your kids how to shoot at 12, you don't know whether you are teaching a kid with mental illness how to shoot or not. Dig it?

That may be the funniest post ever. All of a sudden, XXX, the King of the Anecdote, accuses someone else of "liking isolated stories." Oh my!

I guess I made my point, even if you missed it. Remember yesterday when I wrote,

Che Reagan Christ wrote:

<quoted text>And my contribution to the discussion is that anecdote and Google searches are a completely unscientific approach at trying to answer that question and are essentially worthless. She is the only person who has offered an answer based on scientific method.

<quoted text>Yes, and as long as a window isn't shot all the way out, there won't be explosive decompression. A bullet hole in the metal of the fuselage or in a window is too small to produce it.

And if Semi Automatics are used by several or a bunch of dumbasses at the same time George?I wouldn't want to be in that plane. Pressurizes cabin, lots of holes, or worse one big one sucking people out.

<quoted text>And if Semi Automatics are used by several or a bunch of dumbasses at the same time George?I wouldn't want to be in that plane. Pressurizes cabin, lots of holes, or worse one big one sucking people out.

Or crashing into the Mall of America, Ohio Stadium or Disney World. Deliberately. On a Saturday.BTW, "lots of holes" the size of bullets will not explosively decompress an aircraft. The pressurization system can compensate in that case. If an entire window goes, that's another storyYou don't think the FAA and the aircraft manufacturers thought this through before allowing flight deck crews to carry?

<quoted text>It was your guys' line of thinking. You guys were saying that a parent should never teach a child with mental health issues how to use a gun. I simply pointed out that you idiots, when you teach your 12 year olds how to shoot, don't know whether you are doing that or not.

I agree. 12 Year olds, whether Schizophrenic or not do not have the maturity and emotion control to handle free access to firearms.I also will add that Males are not fully emotionally mature until much later than females. Males are more suceptible to peer pressure than females.Gun training is like divorce. The person who goes through gun safety/training is not the same person who later in a fit of anger, grabs that weapon and kills someone, just as the person we divorce from is not the person we married or there would be no divorce.

The Bath School disaster is the name given to three bombings in Bath Township, Michigan, on May 18, 1927, which killed 38 elementary school children, two teachers, and four other adults; at least 58 people were injured.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disa...

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