Let's hope not! They are very good quality, and we get a lot of orders from 3 gunners! Wish you were in the area to check them out!

I'm not worried about the quality of the product at all - i'm worried that load four is hard enough to learn that wilst practicing i'll get one shell halfway in and the other will slip off and the first will come rocketing back like a russian RPG round and imbed itself in m nasal cavity Which was pretty much my method for learning load two. But I got thru it, and it's a very useful technique.

I'll probably order one just to try load four and see if i can get it figured out without a deviated septum.

I'm not worried about the quality of the product at all - i'm worried that load four is hard enough to learn that wilst practicing i'll get one shell halfway in and the other will slip off and the first will come rocketing back like a russian RPG round and imbed itself in m nasal cavity Which was pretty much my method for learning load two. But I got thru it, and it's a very useful technique.

I'll probably order one just to try load four and see if i can get it figured out without a deviated septum.

Sorry for the late reply....you are always welcome to try it out. if you are ever in the area, we'd be more than happy to see you check them out!