Look, KZ2 is probably the best looking game I've seen...from the brief showing. But to say it gets that close to the 05 trailer is crazy.

I just watched the two of them in motion, its no contest....the ACTUAL trailer is incredibly impressive, but the level of detail in textures and animation and effects is not close, and COME ON, HOW COULD IT BE.

This is the same thing that happened with motorstorm, delusional people kept telling themselves it exceeded the trailer, that kind of shit degrades whats been achieved here.

The spirit and feel has certainly be attained, and the game looks absolutely gorgeous, everything comes together extremely well, but it just does NOT look as good as that original completely CG trailer, and there is no way it could.

Not to detract though, because the way the game actually does look is phenomenal.

Don't forget that the game isn't even finished yet. When it's done they can polish the graphics. The good news is, it will look better than this when it's released and that's saying a lot. Remember the improvements in Gears from E3 to release?

Look, KZ2 is probably the best looking game I've seen...from the brief showing. But to say it gets that close to the 05 trailer is crazy.

I just watched the two of them in motion, its no contest....the ACTUAL trailer is incredibly impressive, but the level of detail in textures and animation and effects is not close, and COME ON, HOW COULD IT BE.

This is the same thing that happened with motorstorm, delusional people kept telling themselves it exceeded the trailer, that kind of shit degrades whats been achieved here.

The spirit and feel has certainly be attained, and the game looks absolutely gorgeous, everything comes together extremely well, but it just does NOT look as good as that original completely CG trailer, and there is no way it could.

Not to detract though, because the way the game actually does look is phenomenal.

Look, KZ2 is probably the best looking game I've seen...from the brief showing. But to say it gets that close to the 05 trailer is crazy.

I just watched the two of them in motion, its no contest....the ACTUAL trailer is incredibly impressive, but the level of detail in textures and animation and effects is not close, and COME ON, HOW COULD IT BE.

This is the same thing that happened with motorstorm, delusional people kept telling themselves it exceeded the trailer, that kind of shit degrades whats been achieved here.

The spirit and feel has certainly be attained, and the game looks absolutely gorgeous, everything comes together extremely well, but it just does NOT look as good as that original completely CG trailer, and there is no way it could.

Not to detract though, because the way the game actually does look is phenomenal.

Look, KZ2 is probably the best looking game I've seen...from the brief showing. But to say it gets that close to the 05 trailer is crazy.

I just watched the two of them in motion, its no contest....the ACTUAL trailer is incredibly impressive, but the level of detail in textures and animation and effects is not close, and COME ON, HOW COULD IT BE.

This is the same thing that happened with motorstorm, delusional people kept telling themselves it exceeded the trailer, that kind of shit degrades whats been achieved here.

The spirit and feel has certainly be attained, and the game looks absolutely gorgeous, everything comes together extremely well, but it just does NOT look as good as that original completely CG trailer, and there is no way it could.

Not to detract though, because the way the game actually does look is phenomenal.

Well said, the teams of Motorstorm and Killzone set the bar ridiculously high with the CG. And it probably helped them to achieve what they did with such reference quality.

The real-time game doesn't look quite as impressive as the '05 CG trailer, of course, but I'd say the '07 version still stacks up pretty favorably. (In some of the shots of the buiding, where you don't see the humans, the '07 version actually looks better IMO.) The fact that the real-time footage is as close to the CG as it is is pretty impressive.

The realtime stuff shown this E3 looks great, but on a technical level this is not in the same league as the old trailer. Old trailer had a much higher poly count, better animation, and better effects. It basically had better everything.

The thing that made the 2005 trailer look so great was the animation. No diss on the animation on the new trailer--the game looks pretty damned great--but the animation in the original was hyper-realistic, Breakdown-inspired, and way too smooth and calculated to be a videogame. The animation was always what gave the original trailer away for me.

The thing that made the 2005 trailer look so great was the animation. No diss on the animation on the new trailer--the game looks pretty damned great--but the animation in the original was hyper-realistic, Breakdown-inspired, and way too smooth and calculated to be a videogame. The animation was always what gave the original trailer away for me.

The impeccable lighting and motion blur was it for me. When they're in the sky there's not much in the way of shadowing and the hand waving/animation in general all looks perfectly crisp, which is real-time-a-riffic. The lighting should be massively improved by the end, though.

Yeah, still comparisons aren't really doing much good here. And I agree, some shots, the '07 trailer (environment) has a better look to it. They came pretty close with this new trailer, but we still haven't really seen any gameplay. I'm holding out for that. An extended gameplay trailer.

Love the trailer, but I don't like the fact that it has become even more grittier/darker. The CG trailer was already pretty grim, but seemed to have a little more color. I really hope the devs will go for the same variety as in KZ1. I loved the park in the city for example.

Yeah, still comparisons aren't really doing much good here. And I agree, some shots, the '07 trailer (environment) has a better look to it. They came pretty close with this new trailer, but we still haven't really seen any gameplay. I'm holding out for that. An extended gameplay trailer.

I want to see the long segment that they played at the dedicated Killzone event.