Federal XM12700. Comes in the ammo can. It's just their regular full-power 00. No Flite Control wad. As much as I love what the FC wad brings for hunting and LE use, I don't need it for HD. My 870 is a "hunker down and wait for police" gun, so if it's fired, it'll be into the person beating in my door across the room.

Now that 1B Warp is showing would probably take over if I could get around to ordering some!

This will get the flames going, but I like the PDX1 buck/slug combo for home defense, ie short ranges. It patters nice and tight with poa/poi out of my M4 which has a modified choke. Anything past 15 yds and I would go for a Wolf slug or one of the wonder OO buck loads like the flite control others have posted about. I have also found the cheap winchester walmart value pack buckshot to pattern nicely out of the weapon.
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I do have some of the new federal tactical #1 Buck I need to get out and pattern . . .

I am not even sure what you are saying. I only offer tha 12ga slugs are a poor choice for HD. If you are still in the fight after all the handgun ammo goes down range, I doubt you make it to the SG. BEsides, where do you store spare mags on your person @ 2am?

I am not even sure what you are saying. I only offer tha 12ga slugs are a poor choice for HD. If you are still in the fight after all the handgun ammo goes down range, I doubt you make it to the SG. BEsides, where do you store spare mags on your person @ 2am?

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Look at some tests with Winchester or Remington rifled slugs. They're anything but a poor choice.

The penetration of slugs through common building materials leads most people away from using them for HD

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Penetration through test media that is comparable to human tissue as well as real-world examples is usually my criteria. If the penetration through common building materials were my concern, I wouldn't even use .22LR... I'd use 8 shot. But look at tnoutdoors9's testing. Only about 10 or 11 inches of penetration, even out of Remington's 3" slugs. Handguns in his testing regularly surpass 12, 13, 14 inches. And in my own very limited experience (I.E. one deer this year with the Remington load), the slug performed as tnoutdoors9's test indicated.

Now I'm not advocating slugs or trying to prove their superiority or anything... I'm just saying... they're not the engine block penetrators that everyone says.

Penetration through test media that is comparable to human tissue as well as real-world examples is usually my criteria. If the penetration through common building materials were my concern, I wouldn't even use .22LR... I'd use 8 shot. But look at tnoutdoors9's testing. Only about 10 or 11 inches of penetration, even out of Remington's 3" slugs. Handguns in his testing regularly surpass 12, 13, 14 inches. And in my own very limited experience (I.E. one deer this year with the Remington load), the slug performed as tnoutdoors9's test indicated.

Now I'm not advocating slugs or trying to prove their superiority or anything... I'm just saying... they're not the engine block penetrators that everyone says.

My HD shotty is a 870 Police 12 gauge w/ 18.5" barrel. I don't think it really matters what I put in it for the ranges inside a home so long as it's buckshot, buck and ball, or a slug. It's a 12 gauge...

This will get the flames going, but I like the PDX1 buck/slug combo for home defense, ie short ranges. It patters nice and tight with poa/poi out of my M4 which has a modified choke. Anything past 15 yds and I would go for a Wolf slug or one of the wonder OO buck loads like the flite control others have posted about. I have also found the cheap winchester walmart value pack buckshot to pattern nicely out of the weapon.Winchester PDX1 12 Defender (12 gauge) Gel Ammo Test - YouTube

I do have some of the new federal tactical #1 Buck I need to get out and pattern . . .

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I have a lot of the PDX1 myself, and it's great for short range (15-20 yards Max) as you mention. I have however found that the Centurion buck and ball is more accurate (the ball) a little further out. Not that it matters for HD, and with that said I prefer buckshot (preferably plated, but I have no problems with cheap Remington value pack 00 buck either).

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