It depends what clipless pedals you are using. My friend hit a football sized pinecone during a sprint, and because he was using speedplays (harder than most pedals to clip in/out), he flipped over on his back still attached to his bike. I however atm, use m520s, a friend on my left side made a right turn into me; I some how clipped out of my pedals and landed on my feet.

Pretty funny. I remember very clearly getting my first bike with rat-traps and toe clips, 50 years ago. I was immediately turbine-powered, or so it felt. Only thing was that my feet got cold and the straps cut off circulation. I had to have them tight because I didn't have cycling shoes with sole plates. Clipless are better yet. Super funny not to have an Allen wrench to adjust your pedals. You get tired because of a lack of conditioning. It ain't the pedals!

It depends what clipless pedals you are using. My friend hit a football sized pinecone during a sprint, and because he was using speedplays (harder than most pedals to clip in/out), he flipped over on his back still attached to his bike. I however atm, use m520s, a friend on my left side made a right turn into me; I some how clipped out of my pedals and landed on my feet.

I would say "... because he wasn't looking where he was going, he flipped over on his back ..."

I've been thinking about this while i was riding today. I have a hybrid bike with flat pedals and road bike clipless. As you know, you are applying maybe 4 different types of force with clipless pedals. Pressing, lifting, pushing (forward) and pulling (back). Well but in the same time you are wasting, let's say consuming more energy for your extra efforts. In the end you are getting exhausted quicker. Maybe it sounds bullish but i gave a thought about it. What would you say?

I've been thinking about this while i was riding today. I have a hybrid bike with flat pedals and road bike clipless. As you know, you are applying maybe 4 different types of force with clipless pedals. Pressing, lifting, pushing (forward) and pulling (back). Well but in the same time you are wasting, let's say consuming more energy for your extra efforts. In the end you are getting exhausted quicker. Maybe it sounds bullish but i gave a thought about it. What would you say?

What was his point then? I just thought he misinterpreted my statement.

His point is that he had a big ****ing crash due to his own negligence and rest is of little consequence.

Originally Posted by GT4

Also. He was 100lb at the time, does that make it more believable?

Is it possible? Of course. More importantly, does it have some significance? IMO, no. It doesn't take much force in the proper direction to become disengaged from pedals, Speedplays included - if you don't see enough force to become disengaged, what's the likelihood that you'll see enough force to cause additional damage because of the engagement?

Originally Posted by BillyD

They were getting crude, as juveniles are often inclined to do when given opportunity. :rolleyes:

I've been thinking about this while i was riding today. I have a hybrid bike with flat pedals and road bike clipless. As you know, you are applying maybe 4 different types of force with clipless pedals. Pressing, lifting, pushing (forward) and pulling (back). Well but in the same time you are wasting, let's say consuming more energy for your extra efforts. In the end you are getting exhausted quicker. Maybe it sounds bullish but i gave a thought about it. What would you say?

With clipless (or cleats of course), you can go faster, period. Yes, more muscles are at work to utilize the entire cycle correctly, and all those muscles become progressively stronger and more efficient over time enabling greater power. I'd bet a very large sum of $$ that measurable results like TT's would exhibit markedly faster times with clipless vs. flats for the same riders.

I've been thinking about this while i was riding today. I have a hybrid bike with flat pedals and road bike clipless. As you know, you are applying maybe 4 different types of force with clipless pedals. Pressing, lifting, pushing (forward) and pulling (back). Well but in the same time you are wasting, let's say consuming more energy for your extra efforts. In the end you are getting exhausted quicker. Maybe it sounds bullish but i gave a thought about it. What would you say?

I say you are thinking too much. You learn to spin the pedals without thinking about it. Once your "muscle memory" gets used to the pattern, it becomes automatic. Your legs just do it.