UPDATE: Mel Gibson’s Ex Abuse Photo is a Sham

RadarOnline has just released a photograph allegedly documenting Mel Gibson knocking Oksana Grigorieva‘s teeth out except it looks like she just chipped a tooth. Seriously, that’s it. No bruises, no nothin’. Law enforcement experts have seen the photo and believe it raises “serious questions” about Oksana’s claims, according to TMZ:

Law enforcement sources who have analyzed the pictures and video — yes, we’ve learned she had video shot as well — tell TMZ there is “no evidence of external or internal damage,” making it inconsistent with being punched in the face.
As we have already reported, Oksana’s teeth were not damaged — they were intact. The dentist has submitted a sworn declaration saying one veneer was out and one was cut in half, but the teeth were not damaged.
Furthermore, several experts who have examined the photos and video say there is no evidence of any soft tissue damage, which would be present if someone were struck in the mouth, and it would be “highly irresponsible” for the dentist to so quickly replace Oksana’s veneers.

On top of that, Mel’s people are about to file evidence with the Sheriff’s department that Oksana attempted to extort over $10 million in return for not releasing the tapes which goes back to what I’ve said in the comments and on the Facebook page: They’re both fucked up. Mel Gibson is still caught on tape, gaps or not, admitting to hitting her and hurling racial slurs when he’s not demanding constant fellatio, and Oksana put a child in harm’s way to milk this thing to the bank. Neither one is the innocent victim here even if they made a movie about Jesus, so God willing, for the sake of their daughter, they’ll resolve this thing the old-fashioned way: Family Feud! (Tell Louie Anderson to stop touching kids, he’s needed.)

UPDATE: And now Oksana’s dentist is saying the photo is altered and she wasn’t struck in the mouth. Just the temple. Why not?

Don’t worry, I actually survived the fall, but the crippling leg and back injuries prevented me from being able to climb up to the tower again…could you send someone to come pick me up? It’s been 730 years and I’m getting hungry…

i think all the people that hung him out to dry, before the poor bastard had a chance to defend his innocent ass, should all line up, in a huuuuuuuuuuuge loooooooong line, and all blow him, one by one!

I’ve had some intense sessions with my Magic 8 Ball this morning on this burning topic and this is what it told me:
#1 Mel Gibson is a hateful wacked out racist looney – YES
#2 Gibson babymama Oksana O. is a scheming gold digger who can’t be trusted – YES

I knew it. You fucking idiots hahahahahahaahahahahahhahahahh!
Try harder next time, losers.
Tell me one person who is not a racist and does not yell and scream at his ex from time to time. Or their current mate.
Ahhh the media circus is a dirty group of pirates.

OH MY GOD, I FUCKING KNEW IT, I FUCKING KNEW, I FUCKING KNEW IT.
I JUST KNEW IN MY GUT THIS WAS A LIE.
now i hope she goes to jail, where she belongs. make an example of this fucking pig in heat, with her fake booBS and tight clothes, blow me, blow me in the jacuzzi, whhhhhhoooooore, fuckin lying whore!
line up mother fuckers in the media and elsewhere, start the appologies and keep them as passionate and agressive as the abuse this guy has copped for NOTHING.
this is why he was going off!
this is why he was wild n crazy, he has seen these pics and he has heard this audio, that was faked and going to be used against him, if he didn’t pay up.
oksana you mother fucking mafia whore, i hope you lose both your kids and end up in jail getting fist fucked by all the butch bitches, for years to come.
throw the book at her.
THIS WOMAN IS OBVIOUSLY INSANE AND CRAZY!
her calm on the phone, psychopath!

this is why mel has gone for the original catholisism, he does not agree on a lot of the wrewritten lies and texts of the vatican at all.
he’s not crazy like the jews would like us to think at all.
in fact i reckon, he has let all this get out, oksana, the teeth, the dubbed phone rants etc, knowing damn weel this will be proven by the experts to be a lie and fraud, knowing that she will lose custody over this alone, knowing that she will go to jail, knowing that he will then be the victim, knowing that his career will sky rocket and knowing that he has fucked the jew media right up the clacker!

Get your facts straight for once in your fucking ignorant life. Because if you’re showing your Mel-love by non-sequitur championing his version of Catholicism, you’re doing a fucking piss-poor job of it – you can’t even spell it correctly. It’s painfully obvious you have no idea what the hell you’re talking about, not that that ever stops you.

Gibson’s Sedevacantist sect is not “the original catholicism.” They’re traditionalists who believe there hasn’t been a true pope since 1958, when that old meanie John XXIII, who instituted the Second Vatican Council, was elected. They’re scarcely “original,” since Vat II was also the 21st ecumenical council – and as a splinter group they’re also splintered, with some groups giving allegiance to alternate popes, picking and choosing whom to follow.

Vat II didn’t “rewrite” any “texts”. Throufgh Canon Law the Church dropped the Latin mass; made changes to Holy Orders and education; made traditional revelations not found in scripture inclusive; and passed Nostra Aetate [Our Age], which deals with non-Christian religions:

“The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions. She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men.” It also states since all men are created in God’s image, it is contrary to the teaching of the Church to discriminate against, show hatred towards or harass any person or people on the basis of color, race, religion, condition of life and so on.

No wonder Mel hates the Vatican. The kicker for your icon is obviously this:

“True, the Jewish authorities and those who followed their lead pressed for the death of Christ; still, what happened in His passion cannot be charged against all the Jews, without distinction, then alive, nor against the Jews of today. Although the Church is the new people of God, the Jews should not be presented as rejected or accursed by God, as if this followed from the Holy Scriptures. All should see to it, then, that in catechetical work or in the preaching of the word of God they do not teach anything that does not conform to the truth of the Gospel and the spirit of Christ. Furthermore, in her rejection of every persecution against any man, the Church, mindful of the patrimony she shares with the Jews and moved not by political reasons but by the Gospel’s spiritual love, decries hatred, persecutions, displays of anti-Semitism, directed against Jews at any time and by anyone.”

“Look it up”? Where, on Mel’s impartial unbiased splinter group website? I’d say you could read your New Testament a little closer, because I’m damn sure you know no more than Mel’s movie, but I know you won’t be bothered. After all, why bother learning about the actual politics and history of Judea during that time, including the fact that it was a Roman province and crucifixion was strictly a Roman civil punishment., when you can find a more suitable target for your hate?

Regardless of cover ups and Rosie O’Donnell, the Church doctrine says no such thing about rape and sodomy of children. It’s regrettable they outright avoid civil prosecution and compliance with those aims, but what do you expect from a religion that uses forgiveness and absolution for transgressions in Christ’s name as a defense? Oh, no – wait, that’s Mel’s church’s doctrine, too. Damn. Anyway, the Catholic Church ditched the jewkiller doctrine back in the early ’60’s with Vatican II and other much-needed reforms, so perhaps you should be calling John XXIII a pig instead. Part of the reasoning behind that is since Jesus was sent here to die in the first place, continuing to scapegoat and hate whoever God selected to do the job was, in essence, blaming God for carrying out the plan that gave you a Savior in the first place. If you can’t follow all that or don’t give a fuck about some suspect bead-fumbling Roman church and still want to keep hating the Jews for KILLING Jesus roughly 2000 years ago, maybe you want to reread the part where Jesus took care of that on the cross when He absolved anyone responsible for His death. So if you keep on hating the way you do, then in essence you betray Him and His message and ensure that He died for nothing. Nice going. What have you got planned for next week?

Yeah, cuz if it’s on the net you know it must be true. Mel’s still not gonna fuck you no matter how Jerry Fletcher you get. FYI, you really need to stick with one delusional, paranoiac conspiracy “truth” at a time, so go back to posting that Hitler was really a Rothschild, deliberately bred by the Illuminati. Mel won’t fuck you for that either, but since there isn’t enough room on the commitment papers for all the moronic shit you got going on, the very least you can do is save someone some paperwork.

Anyone ranting about Illuminati conspiracies and blood rites in the Vatican is the last person who should be slinging the term “mental,” you raving fuckwit. And as manipulative as she is, Mel is not “innocent” if that’s him saying “You fucking deserved it” in response to her saying he hit her.

yes go by the theory….but whats done in practice says that the highest echeleons of the church are rotten to the core. poisoning their own popes, for succession, sex with kids, pregnancies in orphanages, of children and nuns, when the only visiting males are the priests. read some history, read some books….have a look at true stories; kathys story and ex nun, many out there. why do you think they all have lime pits on site??? don’t give me history lessons on rewritten bullshit, there to divert not tell the truth. disinformation is todays education. i have worked in libraries reading for a living, the original, not rewritten. the u.s compared to the rest of the world would be the most misinformed nation in the world.

No, “dumbo,” you have no idea whether they were “made in a studio” or not because no one’s heard anything but Radar Online releases – and any “expert” who claims to be able to make a determination from anything but the original recording is full of shit.

“whats done in practice says that the highest echeleons of the church are rotten to the core. poisoning their own popes, for succession, sex with kids, pregnancies in orphanages, of children and nuns, when the only visiting males are the priests. read some history, read some books.” You do realize that if you’re referring to events that took place prior to ’62, that’s still Hero Mel’s Church you’re defaming – the one you consider him a hero for following, right?

Duh, of course any religion is only as good as its followers. Since man is vile, any religion will be as full of abusers hiding behind it as it will be of saints following it. How the religion’s authorities deal with the abusers is the problem, not that of the religion’s tenets per se.

If “you’ve worked in libraries reading for a living, the original, not rewritten” then I truly pity Australia, because your ignorance as well as your borderline illiteracy is astounding. They’d be better off having you on the dole since you have no critical faculties whatsoever, and you believe only what you want to believe.

Your reference to “Kathy’s Story” is a perfect case in point – she has even less credibility than Oksana Grigorieva but because she provides outrage, a target for hate, and unbelievable sensation you swallow it all. Not one single statement in that book can be verified, including O’ Beirne’s claim she was adopted. And according to her actual birth certificate, she even lies about her age. She claims to have “proof,” but refuses to produce it – and when her publisher brought in a journalist fact-checker to vet the sequel, which was supposed to vindicate her earlier account, they cancelled her contract immediately afterward. Proven inconsistencies aside, the fantasies and lies are obvious – first she claims she was persecuted by being sent to mental hospitals, now she claims that she (with that official history of mental instability against her) has “rescued and fostered hundreds of children.” That’s right up your alley – the insane and illogical is logical to you because everything you want to be true – and isn’t – is always a result of a conspiracy.

Unless, of course, by “library” you mean a dogeared copy of O’Beirne’s book, three coloring books, a Cliff Notes version of the Protocols of Zion and a Foster’s pamphlet. Now that, I’ll believe.

And on the tapes;
Upon closer inspection, this reeks of an smear job operation by the Jewish powers-that-be to take down Gibson. The tapes are bogus, with different mics/volumes used, Oksana remaining suspiciously calm as if reading a script, and the conversation in the tapes not following logically, as if pieces of audio were spliced together. Now experts are saying the tapes were tampered with and edited.

Forensic Experts say the Mel Gibson Tapes were tampered with

“These copies were professionally made for distribution,” says forensic audio and video expert, Arlo. “Their quality is extraordinary … I would be willing to bet that someone with a background in recording these types of messages helped Oksana do so to entrap Gibson. I would also expect that a person or persons also helped her edit the recordings.”

Arlo says these recordings have been professionally edited to eliminate words or piece together phrases. [1]
Jewry is betting that the public, mesmerized by the Jewish media and brainwashed in jewish political correctness and the “evil” of “racism”, will fall for the tapes and turn against Gibson for telling the truth that the Jews are behind the wars, and using harmless racial epithets such as “wetback” and “nigger”.

Unfortunately for the Jews, the public isn’t buying it, and is defending Mel.

Upon closer inspection, this reeks of an smear job operation by the Jewish powers-that-be to take down Gibson. The tapes are bogus, with different mics/volumes used, Oksana remaining suspiciously calm as if reading a script, and the conversation in the tapes not following logically, as if pieces of audio were spliced together. Now experts are saying the tapes were tampered with and edited.

Forensic Experts say the Mel Gibson Tapes were tampered with

“These copies were professionally made for distribution,” says forensic audio and video expert, Arlo. “Their quality is extraordinary … I would be willing to bet that someone with a background in recording these types of messages helped Oksana do so to entrap Gibson. I would also expect that a person or persons also helped her edit the recordings.”

Arlo says these recordings have been professionally edited to possibly eliminate words or piece together phrases.

you just like an arguement for the sake of an arguement. you say absolutely nothing constructive, you just attack. if that’s what gives you a thrill, goodluck to you. you were wrong about mel, just like the russian chic here, so suck it up. you could not see the truth from the beginning and many others here could, so your opinion is irrelevant.

it’s pretty rich of you to call anyone illiterate. man you had one of the dumbest bozo’s running your country not too far back, before indonesian born obama took over. but it’s not on all seeing eye cnn, so it can’t be true. biographies, autobiographies are the main part of my role ,in what i do, specifics don’t matter here. i suppose you think of anne franks account as the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. you see outside of the u.s. people freely discuss frauds like this, without being labelled anti-semetic, when all that means is you have been told to shut up. when the manuscripts were allowed to be examined (only once) by various experts, they found immediately that the book had 4 authors, the main annes father, with her not writing a single paragraph. if something has a goverment stamp, chances are that it is anything but honest. eg; chlorine in water, the french will not allow it, due to. the overwhealming evidence/link with cancer. drinking it is only part of the damage, it’s when you have a hot shower, pores open and you get that nice sleepy chloroform affect, be sure it’s the chlorine. fluoride is illegal to be dumped into the ocean, but we’re only people, its’ fine. the average jo is ok, it’s the highest of high that are not, but you won’t see it on cnn.
yoi do not have to be a part of any religion to believe in god. i can believe in him in my own home, just like the poor african, that can believe in the middle of no where.

Pathetic. I have read the book, you just don’t like the facts. O’Bierne’s own publisher won’t touch her with a ten foot pole now and they had a huge monetary interest in publishing that sequel if any part of it were true. Big news: beliefs are not facts – and sometimes lies are just lies, not “truth” suppressed by an oh-so-convenient conspiracy. If someone claims they have mutliple instances of “proof” to back up an outrageous story but, uh, just can’t produce any of it right now, most rational people start looking for mental illness or pants on fire. That would not include you, obviously. Hell, depending on your medication level during the day, you can’t even decide if the tapes are a result of a money grubbing whore out to extort Gibson for all his dough, or a Jewish conspiracy out to ruin him by taping them. Flip-flop much?

Arlo West’s “expert” observation falls in the “duh” category when he says it’s obvious Grigorieva’s “calm demeanor” points to her knowing she was bring recorded. Gee, ya think? He said the COPIES distributed to and by Radar Online were professionally made – well, duh, again. She probably did have help setting it up, but even if they were edited, that doesn’t exactly explain Gibson’s screaming meltdown and violent threats, unless you’re claiming the “Jew media” gave him a script and had a gun to his head, which wouldn’t surprise me given the delusional shit you spew. Whether the originals have been edited isn’t something West, or anyone else can tell because he can’t determine that from a copy – enhanced, edited or otherwise – but only from listening to the master recording. As I’ve said before, anyone who claims they can is a joke.

He does NOT say the tapes are fake, nor is he saying Gibson isn’t the speaker. That’s not the same as “innocent.”

But with you, black is white, the Vatican controls everything that the Jews don’t, right? And it’s “argument.” Look that up in your “library.”

Whether George Bush is illiterate or not has nothing to do with your extremely obvious shortcomings, but it is an argument someone who’s not too tightly wrapped would fall back on. Thanks for not disappointing.

I bet “specifics don’t matter here” because I suspect that what you call “work” is just excising portions of books that you don’t agree with. The published version of Frank’s diary has not been found to have “4 authors.” It was edited from four separate volumes (one was a rewritten version that had been edited by Anne) by her father, who took out a lot of what he considered to be personal and embarassing passages (not least 5 whole pages that were critical of his marriage).

“you see outside of the u.s. people freely discuss frauds like this, without being labelled anti-semetic, when all that means is you have been told to shut up. when the manuscripts were allowed to be examined (only once) by various experts, they found immediately that the book had 4 authors, the main annes father, with her not writing a single paragraph.”

Wrong, wrong and wrong. You see, you really need to stop making shit up because you’re really bad at it. The allegations first appeared in pro-Nazi publications in Scandinavia – so much for no one having an anti-semitic agenda. Germany, not the US, prosecuted a fomer Hitler Youth member, then a teacher, for publishing the forgery rumor in his school’s newspaper as well as other pampheteers with ties to the Nazi party. To date, the only people who’ve claimed “fraud” have documented pro- Nazi, anti-semitic agendas. The German courts examined the diaries in 1960 and compared them to known examples of her writing, and found them authentic.

When Otto Frank died in 1980 he willed all her writings – diaries, letters, everything – to The Netherlands Institite for War Documentation. They performed a massive forensic analysis, from paper to ink to previous writing samples. The published result runs to 700+ pages and confirms the origin – it was written by one person, Anne Frank. But you need it not to be true – so QED, it isn’t.

As for your last off-your-meds non sequitur, no one says you need to be a member of an organized religion to believe in God, least of all me. This may be the only true thing you’ve said so far. Mel, however, will not like you for this, as he believes there is only one way to God and it’s only through his Church. Well, Mel’s version of the Church, not the anti-pope version. Mel hates you now for heresy, hope you’re happy.

awesome, out of the hundreds of millions of books out there, you happen to have read a book, that no one i know has even heard of, let alone read, amazing.
like i said before i wasn’t even a huge fan until all this erupted, but i am now. anyone railroaded like this guy has been, deserves backing and sympathy. i know he’ll come out the other end and beat this, her…..not so much.
if your going to constantly call people names, then don’t be so upset when you cop it back. also googling, cutting and pasting info you quickly look up, so yo can continue an arguement is silly. we’ll agree to disagree.
as far as the library goes, i make dam,n sure that anything that’s not allowed, or banned, is ordered!

No one you know has heard of it but you, huh? You want no one to hear of it because that way the Vatican will be guilty of suppressing it and then only you will Know The Truth. Jesus, you reason like a corkscrew. Seriously – my calling you a fuckwit is the very least of your problems.

Big news: it sold over 400,000 copies, and there was a bidding war to publish the sequel so that means the Vatican sucks at conspiracies to suppress it. If O’Beirne could back up any of her claims in that supposedly vindicating sequel, then her new publisher wouldn’t have abandoned all plans to publish it, and her old publisher, who still claims to believe her, would have brought it to press. That was two years ago – no book.

BTW, it was a pretty big scandal when the plug was pulled. The story was carried in Newsweek, which was where I saw it, and other major publications. The Daily Mail featured it in an expose of just how accurate such “misery porn” was. So lots of people who hadn’t read it when it came out looked to see how big the lie was. But no one but you has heard of it. Right. For someone who claims to “read for a living” and work in a library, you’re woefully ignorant of pretty much everything that has to do with current events, books, literature and publishing, aintcha?

The truly sad thing is that terrible things did happen to many girls and women in the Magdalen Asylums, and the bodies are there to prove it. But a discredited lying and delusional fantasy not only disrespects the people who actually suffered the real abuses, but makes it harder for the next victims of an institution like that to be believed, all deference to the Ryan Report aside. O’Beirne’s publisher was so hot for a sensational bestseller they didn’t want to do their basic homework and settled for it having the ring of “truthiness” – which as gullible Oprah found out, isn’t the same as truth. They have a lot to answer for because in this case a lot of people got hurt by the reckless accusations of someone who’s either a pathological liar or mentally ill.

Sorry to rain on your parade, but I don’t have to google everything to refute you, nor do I cut and paste. I know what I’m talking about because I have an education beyond the 8th grade and I actually have a ton of real books where I am, so if you confirm a statement I made by going to the wiki that doesn’t mean I cut and pasted it from there. I leave that to you as most of your posts dealing with Mel, outside of the rants and conspiracy theories, have been lifted in their entirely from sources like Elena Gorgan at Softpedia Life & Style. If you’re going to plagiarize her like that, get rid of phrases like “it is said” because that’s a dead giveaway.

BTW, you can’t google up an intellect or reasoning capacity if you don’t have one in the first place – you really do have to have some front-loaded knowledge or background in a subject to come up with a decent argument that carries any weight. The ignorant who have to look up even the most basic facts believe everyone has to do the same and then they just stick them together to make a persuasive argument, no analysis required. That’s not how it works, which is why you can’t reason for toffee.

Having empathy for Mel and feeling bad for him now would be a nice and human thing to do if that were all there is to it, but your sentiments are also driven by hate for Vatican and “jew-media” conspiracies, so your motives there, as they say, are hardly pure. No matter how manipulative and conniving Grigorieva is, no one forced him to think as he does, or say what he did, just as no one did back in 2006. He is, and was, the sole engineer of that little “railroad” job and the only one driving that particular train is Mel.

man u sound sooooo angry.
goodluck with that.
i i don’t hate, i just don’t agree with nor like, promote or follow liars, no matter where they are from. just because my grandfathers, father etc were into what ever they were into, doen’t mean i have to. makes me no less of a person, it just means i think for myself and i have a freedom they never knew. we are a hell of a lot luckier to, information everywhere, if you want it.
chill out a little and don’t throw that anti-semetic shit around so much, it’s been done to death and i think everybody is over it.
peace out!

yeah, she seems like a ruthless golddigger.
shes pops out of nowhere, marries him fast, & then she’s all clean and nice with no evidence of wrongdoing while Mel is driven to a crazy rant that is conveniently recorded.
Elin took golddigging to a higher, classy standard while this oksana creature seems to resort to low & scheming blows. .. hehe. blows.

God finally shes being shown for who she truely is. How was no one else seeing this?!!? Mel may be crazy, we know this but Oksana is a gold digging whore cunt russian.. I hope she gets time for extortion and leaking tapes.