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Yeah, he starts running away the instant the guy bats the gun with his arm.

How long would you stick around if someone was pointing a gun at you?

He started running before it was even pointed at him. And he didn't even struggle to hold onto it.

Edit: actually, watching again, the gun is never pointed at him - the victim didn't turn it around after he grabbed it. But the robber did try to hold onto it for a second, with one hand, as he was running away (like a relay race baton hand-off as Elinda noted).

But he didn't have a hand on it. His grip was loose and he lost complete control over the weapon. I'm not contending the original guy wasn't a moron, because he clearly was. Just the whole "Oh well I'd stick around because my ********* are steel" nonsense. I'd rather be four or five seconds into a sprint than be standing right in front of it.

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George Carlin wrote:

I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.

But he didn't have a hand on it. His grip was loose and he lost complete control over the weapon. I'm not contending the original guy wasn't a moron, because he clearly was. Just the whole "Oh well I'd stick around because my ********* are steel" nonsense. I'd rather be four or five seconds into a sprint than be standing right in front of it.

Watch the video again - he's got a hand on it for most of the way towards the bottom of the picture. Relay baton-style, like the others said.

A 2-year-old Kentucky girl was accidentally killed by her 5-year-old brother who fired a rifle he had been given as a gift, officials said Wednesday.

Cumberland County Coroner Gary L. White said an autopsy of Caroline Starks showed the toddler had died from a single shot from the .22-caliber rifle. The death has been ruled accidental and no charges will be filed, he said in a telephone interview with the Los Angeles Times.

The rifle used in the accident is a Crickett designed for children and sold under the slogan “My First Rifle,” according to the company's website.

“The little Crickett rifle is a single-shot rifle and it has a child safety,” White said. “This was just a tragic accident.”

If it were me, I'd be two arms lengths away and using a weapon and shell that's maximum effective range was more than 40 yards. That's super-cool training. Getting the **** out of dodge should be common sense in that situation.

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George Carlin wrote:

I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.

If it were me, I'd be two arms lengths away and using a weapon and shell that's maximum effective range was more than 40 yards. That's super-cool training. Getting the @#%^ out of dodge should be common sense in that situation.

You'd need some really, really small ammo for that. Even a .22 is way too much. Unless you're going for the source...

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publiusvarus wrote:

we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.

The rifle, which was usually stored in one of the home's corners, was inadvertently left loaded, according to White.

Great place to store a rifle.

This is the only real WTF here. The fact that the rifle was left with a round in the chamber AND that the rifle was stored out in the open is just plain stupid, and may result in the parents being brought up on some sort of negligence charges.

Children of the south have been raised around guns for generations. It's a way of life and not at all something deserving of a liberal kneejerk response. Parental negligence is, however.

I grew up farther south than these yokels, and I never knew anyone who gave a five-year-old his own rifle, much less "stored" them in a corner.

I grew up in the south and I'm still here. I've seen ONE gun. Once. It was my dad's, and he only had it for a job he used to have. Once the job went away, so did the gun. I don't know anyone with guns. My kids don't have guns, and I don't know anyone who's taught their kids to shoot, either for protection or hunting.

An eight hour course to teach people that leaving a gun laying around and in reach of children is a bad idea is unconstitutional, though.

The thing is you could sit through a day long course on gun safety and never would they tell you specifically not to leave a gun with a bullet in the chamber in the hands of an unsupervised 5 year old. Common sense eh - not all people use it at all times.

We were shooting squirrels on grandma's farm with .22's when we were not yet into double digits (loved grannies canned 'meat'). The thing is guns were just a tool for securing food and/or keeping varmints out of the root cellar, and they were treated and used like a tool - a very dangerous tool. Never did we treat guns as if they were some special item with their own inherent rights. They were never a 'weapon' (we had knives for that) nor should they ever be weapons in the hands of civilians.

If we're going to allow people to have weapons to protect themselves from other people, what's the sense in having a whole branch of federal, state, and local government to provide the service for us?

The thing is you could sit through a day long course on gun safety and never would they tell you specifically not to leave a gun with a bullet in the chamber in the hands of an unsupervised 5 year old. Common sense eh - not all people use it at all times.

I'm pretty sure they'll never tell you specifically to not shove the barrel down your throat and pull the trigger either. Or not to use the sight on the end of the barrel as a tooth pick. Or comb your hair with it.

But, rather than go over EVERY possible misuse of the gun, they would go over how to properly and safely handle and store the weapon. Which I'm 100% sure does not include leaving it loaded in the corner of the room with unsupervised children.

The thing is you could sit through a day long course on gun safety and never would they tell you specifically not to leave a gun with a bullet in the chamber in the hands of an unsupervised 5 year old.

Not a five year old specifically, no. Every safety course I've taken and given involved "don't leave a loaded weapon sitting around" as the first talking point, though.

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George Carlin wrote:

I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.

We had rifles and shot guns all over the place when I was growing up. At home they were for hunting (deer and birds) and kept in a cabinet - a glass fronted gun case right in the living room. I've shot animals, clay pigeons etc. I've never so much as held a hand-gun. Oh and I grew up in the north, not the south. At the farms (of both my parents) they were all around and used for putting down animals, scaring off the occasion predator (coyote) and hunting small game.

I have a paint-ball marker now, but my old paint-ball cronies have switched to air-soft. Not sure if I'll bother to make the switch or just, you know, get old and sit in my rocking chair. My husband keeps a pellet gun near the back door to keep the red squirrels out of the house and garage.