I don't know what your profile was like but I wouldn't rank these as very high at all with blurry, dark and poor posing for the photos, at least in my opinion but then I guess, we all have very different opinions, especially on this front.

Yep, the profiles themselves are all worse than mine, but the guys themselves are more attractive, which more than makes up for it.

Good looks beat out a good profile in almost any scenario in terms of number of matches.

I concur, over the summer I got beach lean and saw my response rate hike way up. Weekly meet ups. Another thing too is that the better looking you are, the more aggressive you can be about the SNL and the meetup. It's pretty much expected, as long as you don't overdo it.

I can't wait to drop some fat again now that I've gained more lean mass. There's so many elements to the puzzle and if you intentionally leave holes in your game. You only have yourself to blame.

Tinder is far from broken. The thing about it is what are you willing to do for a chance at easy access to very attractive and willing women. That’s the whole appeal of tinder. I went to Miami recently and got a shit lotta of matches all within about a 5 mile radius of where I was staying and I have the screenshot to prove it. I’m a tall muscular and lean man. I have professional photos that brought out the best in me. I’ve been lifting weight and boxing a number of years but in the last three years decided I wanted to be leaner to bring out the bone structure in my face more. All this worked like a charm. The benefit of have a 99 percentile profile on tinder is you get quick easy and enthusiastic access to girls willing to have flings. That’s what we all want. Don’t expect this access if you aren’t at the top. Even being in the top relies you to navigate tinder careful as to avoid being under the aforementioned heap of trash. I went through a recent dates tinder and she the level of absolute senseless left swiping was shocking. The girl spent less than a second on each pic and didn’t read the bios of 99% of these men. I was one of three men she swiped right on.

I'm tall, a lifelong weightlifter, and lean enough to have visible abs. The photos I put up aren't shitty selfies, they show me out in cool places. Every pic I use on dating apps scores at least top 20% attractiveness on photofeeler. Some are top 10%. I'm very professionally successful. I'm game-aware enough to keep my bios and conversations light and positive.

I quit using Tinder because it felt like a massive waste of time, but I'm on every other popular dating platform. I rarely get a match on Bumble. In general, 99% of the matches I get on dating apps either turn out to be SIFs when I look more closely, or if they're actually cute, put zero effort into the conversation (if they respond at all). Across all dating platforms, I meet a worthwhile girl about once every few months on average.

So does that constitute "success," or am I just incredibly low-value?

Hopefully Delta will be OK with me revealing this, but we've been PMing. I took a look at his profile, he is a high value guy who has high standards. I gave him a couple profile and "brand" tips that I think will improve his success even more.

There are no anomalies. Tinder is a magnifying glass for your real-life value. You just have to focus the lens.

The point of Corsega’s post wasn’t Quite that absolute. For fuck sake Elon Musk and Mark Zuck are high value nerds and I assure you they would give millions to get the kind of affection I get from women of smv with zero financial investment. Corsega has been saying for several pages now that you need to hone in on the aspects of your profile that might be causing the problem. It’s not a slight to anybody. Listen, if posted selfies no fucking way would I be getting the matches I’m getting. No way. Maybe in 2015 but not in 2018/19. Accept the game and adapt. You don’t like it, day night or social circle your way into pussy. Tinder is appealing because of the potential for lightening fast lays if you’re high value enough. Fuck, if any dude who’s an objective 5 could get laid by an 8 by a quick swipe they would. Nothing in life is ever that easy

12-10-2018 05:08 PM

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Seeing a pattern, anyone? 6-year old thread and we're still talking in circles.

It's not the algorithm. It's your value.

There is a small other dimension. Niche. Some people may do very well if they have a consistent niche profile. Get a dog and a few decent photos with it and tell me ur matches don't skyrocket.

Most of my dates from tinder came from people that initially liked something particular about my profile (usually all the travel/adventure pics). While thats an overused/boring niche, Those are the best pics I currently have.

(12-10-2018 05:08 PM)quaker13 Wrote: The point of Corsega’s post wasn’t Quite that absolute. For fuck sake Elon Musk and Mark Zuck are high value nerds and I assure you they would give millions to get the kind of affection I get from women of smv with zero financial investment. Corsega has been saying for several pages now that you need to hone in on the aspects of your profile that might be causing the problem. It’s not a slight to anybody. Listen, if posted selfies no fucking way would I be getting the matches I’m getting. No way. Maybe in 2015 but not in 2018/19. Accept the game and adapt. You don’t like it, day night or social circle your way into pussy. Tinder is appealing because of the potential for lightening fast lays if you’re high value enough. Fuck, if any dude who’s an objective 5 could get laid by an 8 by a quick swipe they would. Nothing in life is ever that easy

(12-08-2018 11:10 AM)Bikal Wrote: When I was on Tinder, I had a portrait of my face, literally just my face followed by photos of me with my dogs, hunting, and social settings (beach and upscale bar, surrounded by women). I had a uniform clothing style (Country/Preppy)

I was thinking about my old comment earlier, the above profile has worked well in key UK areas, parts of Europe and Russia but if I were to head out to Australia (example), a women's playground full of jacked dudes with objectively higher SMV than myself, I'd struggle

With that in mind, I should be amending my profile, there's no question about that, however do I aim for a similar profile to the locals or keep the above format but change clothing style to match my preferred demographics of the locale I'm visiting?

(12-10-2018 05:08 PM)quaker13 Wrote: The point of Corsega’s post wasn’t Quite that absolute. For fuck sake Elon Musk and Mark Zuck are high value nerds and I assure you they would give millions to get the kind of affection I get from women of smv with zero financial investment. Corsega has been saying for several pages now that you need to hone in on the aspects of your profile that might be causing the problem. It’s not a slight to anybody. Listen, if posted selfies no fucking way would I be getting the matches I’m getting. No way. Maybe in 2015 but not in 2018/19. Accept the game and adapt. You don’t like it, day night or social circle your way into pussy. Tinder is appealing because of the potential for lightening fast lays if you’re high value enough. Fuck, if any dude who’s an objective 5 could get laid by an 8 by a quick swipe they would. Nothing in life is ever that easy

I actually don't disagree with this.

Then what do you disagree with, exactly?

The steps are very clear.
1) Be high value (the MOST important)
2) Maximize your profile (focus that lens)

If you did 2) and "muh algorithm" and "tinder is dead", go back to 1).

(12-10-2018 04:12 PM)corsega Wrote: There are no anomalies. Tinder is a magnifying glass for your real-life value. You just have to focus the lens.

Disagree with this

Tinder is a shallow app about creating an attractive display for girls to look at.

Tinder is not about your real life value.

Maybe "real life" in the sense that these days everyone thinks online presence = reality, but I think of myself as being more than my tinder results.

(12-08-2018 12:23 PM)Delta Wrote: I quit using Tinder because it felt like a massive waste of time, but I'm on every other popular dating platform. I rarely get a match on Bumble. In general, 99% of the matches I get on dating apps either turn out to be SIFs when I look more closely, or if they're actually cute, put zero effort into the conversation (if they respond at all). Across all dating platforms, I meet a worthwhile girl about once every few months on average.

So does that constitute "success," or am I just incredibly low-value?

This is pretty close to what I get as well.

When I'm in my college town results are far better, but I have been back home for the last few months and noticed how bad it is in smaller towns.

I'm an attractive guy with a bodybuilders physique (slimmed down now since I'm fighting MMA but still <10%bf with 6 pack & developed muscles) and I do fine with getting matches on tinder. Bumble, I'll get a few but I haven't had anything materialize through using it.

The girls that use these apps get so much attention and effort from thirsty guys that it has gotten old to them. Not to say girls don't use them, but they definitely do not take it as seriously anymore.

Cute girls barely try and you have to hope you're messaging them in a time frame where they have decent availability.

Girls that are 5s act like they're 8s and the effort isn't worth it.

Lots of SIFs that you have to screen through.

My profile is definitely not optimized as I still haven't had professional pictures done like I plan on doing, but girls are low-quality and expect you to do all the work in progressing the interaction while they sit back and send shitty responses.

(12-10-2018 05:08 PM)quaker13 Wrote: The point of Corsega’s post wasn’t Quite that absolute. For fuck sake Elon Musk and Mark Zuck are high value nerds and I assure you they would give millions to get the kind of affection I get from women of smv with zero financial investment. Corsega has been saying for several pages now that you need to hone in on the aspects of your profile that might be causing the problem. It’s not a slight to anybody. Listen, if posted selfies no fucking way would I be getting the matches I’m getting. No way. Maybe in 2015 but not in 2018/19. Accept the game and adapt. You don’t like it, day night or social circle your way into pussy. Tinder is appealing because of the potential for lightening fast lays if you’re high value enough. Fuck, if any dude who’s an objective 5 could get laid by an 8 by a quick swipe they would. Nothing in life is ever that easy

I actually don't disagree with this.

Then what do you disagree with, exactly?

The steps are very clear.
1) Be high value (the MOST important)
2) Maximize your profile (focus that lens)

If you did 2) and "muh algorithm" and "tinder is dead", go back to 1).

(12-10-2018 04:12 PM)corsega Wrote: There are no anomalies. Tinder is a magnifying glass for your real-life value. You just have to focus the lens.

Disagree with this

Tinder is a shallow app about creating an attractive display for girls to look at.

Tinder is not about your real life value.

Maybe "real life" in the sense that these days everyone thinks online presence = reality, but I think of myself as being more than my tinder results.

(12-08-2018 12:23 PM)Delta Wrote: I quit using Tinder because it felt like a massive waste of time, but I'm on every other popular dating platform. I rarely get a match on Bumble. In general, 99% of the matches I get on dating apps either turn out to be SIFs when I look more closely, or if they're actually cute, put zero effort into the conversation (if they respond at all). Across all dating platforms, I meet a worthwhile girl about once every few months on average.

So does that constitute "success," or am I just incredibly low-value?

This is pretty close to what I get as well.

When I'm in my college town results are far better, but I have been back home for the last few months and noticed how bad it is in smaller towns.

I'm an attractive guy with a bodybuilders physique (slimmed down now since I'm fighting MMA but still <10%bf with 6 pack & developed muscles) and I do fine with getting matches on tinder. Bumble, I'll get a few but I haven't had anything materialize through using it.

The girls that use these apps get so much attention and effort from thirsty guys that it has gotten old to them. Not to say girls don't use them, but they definitely do not take it as seriously anymore.

Cute girls barely try and you have to hope you're messaging them in a time frame where they have decent availability.

Girls that are 5s act like they're 8s and the effort isn't worth it.

Lots of SIFs that you have to screen through.

My profile is definitely not optimized as I still haven't had professional pictures done like I plan on doing, but girls are low-quality and expect you to do all the work in progressing the interaction while they sit back and send shitty responses.

Totally agree.

Whatever Tinder is, I feel more comfortable gaming in real life social circle, even being newbie.
I don't like feed the ego of that plenty of 5s.

(12-10-2018 04:12 PM)corsega Wrote: There are no anomalies. Tinder is a magnifying glass for your real-life value. You just have to focus the lens.

Disagree with this

Tinder is a shallow app about creating an attractive display for girls to look at.

Tinder is not about your real life value.

Maybe "real life" in the sense that these days everyone thinks online presence = reality, but I think of myself as being more than my tinder results.

(12-08-2018 12:23 PM)Delta Wrote: I quit using Tinder because it felt like a massive waste of time, but I'm on every other popular dating platform. I rarely get a match on Bumble. In general, 99% of the matches I get on dating apps either turn out to be SIFs when I look more closely, or if they're actually cute, put zero effort into the conversation (if they respond at all). Across all dating platforms, I meet a worthwhile girl about once every few months on average.

So does that constitute "success," or am I just incredibly low-value?

This is pretty close to what I get as well.

When I'm in my college town results are far better, but I have been back home for the last few months and noticed how bad it is in smaller towns.

I'm an attractive guy with a bodybuilders physique (slimmed down now since I'm fighting MMA but still <10%bf with 6 pack & developed muscles) and I do fine with getting matches on tinder. Bumble, I'll get a few but I haven't had anything materialize through using it.

The girls that use these apps get so much attention and effort from thirsty guys that it has gotten old to them. Not to say girls don't use them, but they definitely do not take it as seriously anymore.

Cute girls barely try and you have to hope you're messaging them in a time frame where they have decent availability.

Girls that are 5s act like they're 8s and the effort isn't worth it.

Lots of SIFs that you have to screen through.

My profile is definitely not optimized as I still haven't had professional pictures done like I plan on doing, but girls are low-quality and expect you to do all the work in progressing the interaction while they sit back and send shitty responses.

Bro you're an MMA athlete, I'm a boxer and a damn good one I might add. You have all the trappings for a killer profile. Shell out the $300-$450 for professional photos and let the games begin. Women are a lot more responsive to pro photos I'm telling you. These 8s you speak of that barely put forth effort will be enthusiastic about meeting you once you've optimized your profile if what you say regarding your physique and hobby is true.

Essentially, the money you spend on professional photos saves you an insane amount of time and money in the long run. Tinder is a hook up app not a relationship app and should be treated as such. The pro pics allow you to be sexually assertive and forthcoming with these bitches. Note I said assertive not aggressive. Are there some good girls on there? Sure, but the approach should be meet and convert. "when are meeting" is basically my opener. I'm not shy about giving that one away

The price you pay for your photos is the cost of admission for getting in the Admiral's club lol. It's a veritable Playboy Mansion invite. Sure, you could give up on tinder or try to grind through it with your best selfies, but you have to adapt in 2019. I've seen the competitions photos and regardless of how attractive the men if the profile doesn't have enough pop, particularly in cities with heavy tinder usage, it can easily go unnoticed. The best example of this is one of my best friends who made a profile spur of the moment and got absolutely no love. Dude is a handsome built 6'5 guy and his profile was shit. He can go out any day of the week and get IOIs but he was getting no results on tinder. I absolutely consider him a high value male. He had no professional pics, none and even stating he was 6'5 couldn't redeem that.

(12-10-2018 04:12 PM)corsega Wrote: There are no anomalies. Tinder is a magnifying glass for your real-life value. You just have to focus the lens.

Disagree with this

Tinder is a shallow app about creating an attractive display for girls to look at.

Tinder is not about your real life value.

Maybe "real life" in the sense that these days everyone thinks online presence = reality, but I think of myself as being more than my tinder results.

(12-08-2018 12:23 PM)Delta Wrote: I quit using Tinder because it felt like a massive waste of time, but I'm on every other popular dating platform. I rarely get a match on Bumble. In general, 99% of the matches I get on dating apps either turn out to be SIFs when I look more closely, or if they're actually cute, put zero effort into the conversation (if they respond at all). Across all dating platforms, I meet a worthwhile girl about once every few months on average.

So does that constitute "success," or am I just incredibly low-value?

This is pretty close to what I get as well.

When I'm in my college town results are far better, but I have been back home for the last few months and noticed how bad it is in smaller towns.

I'm an attractive guy with a bodybuilders physique (slimmed down now since I'm fighting MMA but still <10%bf with 6 pack & developed muscles) and I do fine with getting matches on tinder. Bumble, I'll get a few but I haven't had anything materialize through using it.

The girls that use these apps get so much attention and effort from thirsty guys that it has gotten old to them. Not to say girls don't use them, but they definitely do not take it as seriously anymore.

Cute girls barely try and you have to hope you're messaging them in a time frame where they have decent availability.

Girls that are 5s act like they're 8s and the effort isn't worth it.

Lots of SIFs that you have to screen through.

My profile is definitely not optimized as I still haven't had professional pictures done like I plan on doing, but girls are low-quality and expect you to do all the work in progressing the interaction while they sit back and send shitty responses.

Totally agree.

Whatever Tinder is, I feel more comfortable gaming in real life social circle, even being newbie.
I don't like feed the ego of that plenty of 5s.

(12-11-2018 09:24 AM)quaker13 Wrote: Bro you're an MMA athlete, I'm a boxer and a damn good one I might add. You have all the trappings for a killer profile. Shell out the $300-$450 for professional photos and let the games begin. Women are a lot more responsive to pro photos I'm telling you. These 8s you speak of that barely put forth effort will be enthusiastic about meeting you once you've optimized your profile if what you say regarding your physique and hobby is true.

Essentially, the money you spend on professional photos saves you an insane amount of time and money in the long run. Tinder is a hook up app not a relationship app and should be treated as such. The pro pics allow you to be sexually assertive and forthcoming with these bitches. Note I said assertive not aggressive. Are there some good girls on there? Sure, but the approach should be meet and convert. "when are meeting" is basically my opener. I'm not shy about giving that one away

The price you pay for your photos is the cost of admission for getting in the Admiral's club lol. It's a veritable Playboy Mansion invite. Sure, you could give up on tinder or try to grind through it with your best selfies, but you have to adapt in 2019. I've seen the competitions photos and regardless of how attractive the men if the profile doesn't have enough pop, particularly in cities with heavy tinder usage, it can easily go unnoticed. The best example of this is one of my best friends who made a profile spur of the moment and got absolutely no love. Dude is a handsome built 6'5 guy and his profile was shit. He can go out any day of the week and get IOIs but he was getting no results on tinder. I absolutely consider him a high value male. He had no professional pics, none and even stating he was 6'5 couldn't redeem that.

You guys are convincing me more and more on these threads to go out and get professional pictures, sadly I'm not looking to spend the money right now since I'm on break for school & a broke college student.

I own a nice DSLR camera and I'm planning on trying to get some pictures in the mean time.

I'm thinking a good portrait style photo, a shirtless photo outdoors on the beach, a photo of me on my motorcycle, and an action photo at my muay thai gym would flow with my personality & strong-suits.

(12-11-2018 09:24 AM)quaker13 Wrote: Bro you're an MMA athlete, I'm a boxer and a damn good one I might add. You have all the trappings for a killer profile. Shell out the $300-$450 for professional photos and let the games begin. Women are a lot more responsive to pro photos I'm telling you. These 8s you speak of that barely put forth effort will be enthusiastic about meeting you once you've optimized your profile if what you say regarding your physique and hobby is true.

Essentially, the money you spend on professional photos saves you an insane amount of time and money in the long run. Tinder is a hook up app not a relationship app and should be treated as such. The pro pics allow you to be sexually assertive and forthcoming with these bitches. Note I said assertive not aggressive. Are there some good girls on there? Sure, but the approach should be meet and convert. "when are meeting" is basically my opener. I'm not shy about giving that one away

The price you pay for your photos is the cost of admission for getting in the Admiral's club lol. It's a veritable Playboy Mansion invite. Sure, you could give up on tinder or try to grind through it with your best selfies, but you have to adapt in 2019. I've seen the competitions photos and regardless of how attractive the men if the profile doesn't have enough pop, particularly in cities with heavy tinder usage, it can easily go unnoticed. The best example of this is one of my best friends who made a profile spur of the moment and got absolutely no love. Dude is a handsome built 6'5 guy and his profile was shit. He can go out any day of the week and get IOIs but he was getting no results on tinder. I absolutely consider him a high value male. He had no professional pics, none and even stating he was 6'5 couldn't redeem that.

You guys are convincing me more and more on these threads to go out and get professional pictures, sadly I'm not looking to spend the money right now since I'm on break for school & a broke college student.

I own a nice DSLR camera and I'm planning on trying to get some pictures in the mean time.

I'm thinking a good portrait style photo, a shirtless photo outdoors on the beach, a photo of me on my motorcycle, and an action photo at my muay thai gym would flow with my personality & strong-suits.

This is the accessibility and enthusiasm you want bro. This is one of many from my vacation this weekend. I just didn't have time to meet up with her.. A chick like this would be a pisser to night game. Day game not so much, but definitely night game. She's enhanced to the gills and who knows what she actually looks like in person, but she's unattainable for the vast majority of men and I'm betting she's a monster in the bed. Here she is promptly responding to my my request couched as an order. I didn't beg, didn't have a 20 line witty conversation. Straight to the point.

(12-11-2018 09:24 AM)quaker13 Wrote: Bro you're an MMA athlete, I'm a boxer and a damn good one I might add. You have all the trappings for a killer profile. Shell out the $300-$450 for professional photos and let the games begin. Women are a lot more responsive to pro photos I'm telling you. These 8s you speak of that barely put forth effort will be enthusiastic about meeting you once you've optimized your profile if what you say regarding your physique and hobby is true.

Essentially, the money you spend on professional photos saves you an insane amount of time and money in the long run. Tinder is a hook up app not a relationship app and should be treated as such. The pro pics allow you to be sexually assertive and forthcoming with these bitches. Note I said assertive not aggressive. Are there some good girls on there? Sure, but the approach should be meet and convert. "when are meeting" is basically my opener. I'm not shy about giving that one away

The price you pay for your photos is the cost of admission for getting in the Admiral's club lol. It's a veritable Playboy Mansion invite. Sure, you could give up on tinder or try to grind through it with your best selfies, but you have to adapt in 2019. I've seen the competitions photos and regardless of how attractive the men if the profile doesn't have enough pop, particularly in cities with heavy tinder usage, it can easily go unnoticed. The best example of this is one of my best friends who made a profile spur of the moment and got absolutely no love. Dude is a handsome built 6'5 guy and his profile was shit. He can go out any day of the week and get IOIs but he was getting no results on tinder. I absolutely consider him a high value male. He had no professional pics, none and even stating he was 6'5 couldn't redeem that.

You guys are convincing me more and more on these threads to go out and get professional pictures, sadly I'm not looking to spend the money right now since I'm on break for school & a broke college student.

I own a nice DSLR camera and I'm planning on trying to get some pictures in the mean time.

I'm thinking a good portrait style photo, a shirtless photo outdoors on the beach, a photo of me on my motorcycle, and an action photo at my muay thai gym would flow with my personality & strong-suits.

This is the accessibility and enthusiasm you want bro. This is one of many from my vacation this weekend. I just didn't have time to meet up with her.. A chick like this would be a pisser to night game. Day game not so much, but definitely night game. She's enhanced to the gills and who knows what she actually looks like in person, but she's unattainable for the vast majority of men and I'm betting she's a monster in the bed. Here she is promptly responding to my my request couched as an order. I didn't beg, didn't have a 20 line witty conversation. Straight to the point.

I've always questioned the old cliche of game being this verbal MMA contest between a man and woman. Honestly, all my lays, LTRs etc come pretty easily IRL or otherwise. I tell them we should hang out and smash and they're down. Most of the witty banter only matters AFTER the attraction is established. And even then I'm on autopilot.

Then again I personally refuse to make much effort for women regardless, for the amount of nonsense they can cause, I'm not going to be too gung ho.

(12-11-2018 09:24 AM)quaker13 Wrote: Bro you're an MMA athlete, I'm a boxer and a damn good one I might add. You have all the trappings for a killer profile. Shell out the $300-$450 for professional photos and let the games begin. Women are a lot more responsive to pro photos I'm telling you. These 8s you speak of that barely put forth effort will be enthusiastic about meeting you once you've optimized your profile if what you say regarding your physique and hobby is true.

Essentially, the money you spend on professional photos saves you an insane amount of time and money in the long run. Tinder is a hook up app not a relationship app and should be treated as such. The pro pics allow you to be sexually assertive and forthcoming with these bitches. Note I said assertive not aggressive. Are there some good girls on there? Sure, but the approach should be meet and convert. "when are meeting" is basically my opener. I'm not shy about giving that one away

The price you pay for your photos is the cost of admission for getting in the Admiral's club lol. It's a veritable Playboy Mansion invite. Sure, you could give up on tinder or try to grind through it with your best selfies, but you have to adapt in 2019. I've seen the competitions photos and regardless of how attractive the men if the profile doesn't have enough pop, particularly in cities with heavy tinder usage, it can easily go unnoticed. The best example of this is one of my best friends who made a profile spur of the moment and got absolutely no love. Dude is a handsome built 6'5 guy and his profile was shit. He can go out any day of the week and get IOIs but he was getting no results on tinder. I absolutely consider him a high value male. He had no professional pics, none and even stating he was 6'5 couldn't redeem that.

You guys are convincing me more and more on these threads to go out and get professional pictures, sadly I'm not looking to spend the money right now since I'm on break for school & a broke college student.

I own a nice DSLR camera and I'm planning on trying to get some pictures in the mean time.

I'm thinking a good portrait style photo, a shirtless photo outdoors on the beach, a photo of me on my motorcycle, and an action photo at my muay thai gym would flow with my personality & strong-suits.

You don't have to have "professional" photos per sé. I took most of my better photos myself with a DSLR that I bought 10 years ago and a $20 tripod from Amazon.

(12-11-2018 09:24 AM)quaker13 Wrote: Bro you're an MMA athlete, I'm a boxer and a damn good one I might add. You have all the trappings for a killer profile. Shell out the $300-$450 for professional photos and let the games begin. Women are a lot more responsive to pro photos I'm telling you. These 8s you speak of that barely put forth effort will be enthusiastic about meeting you once you've optimized your profile if what you say regarding your physique and hobby is true.

Essentially, the money you spend on professional photos saves you an insane amount of time and money in the long run. Tinder is a hook up app not a relationship app and should be treated as such. The pro pics allow you to be sexually assertive and forthcoming with these bitches. Note I said assertive not aggressive. Are there some good girls on there? Sure, but the approach should be meet and convert. "when are meeting" is basically my opener. I'm not shy about giving that one away

The price you pay for your photos is the cost of admission for getting in the Admiral's club lol. It's a veritable Playboy Mansion invite. Sure, you could give up on tinder or try to grind through it with your best selfies, but you have to adapt in 2019. I've seen the competitions photos and regardless of how attractive the men if the profile doesn't have enough pop, particularly in cities with heavy tinder usage, it can easily go unnoticed. The best example of this is one of my best friends who made a profile spur of the moment and got absolutely no love. Dude is a handsome built 6'5 guy and his profile was shit. He can go out any day of the week and get IOIs but he was getting no results on tinder. I absolutely consider him a high value male. He had no professional pics, none and even stating he was 6'5 couldn't redeem that.

You guys are convincing me more and more on these threads to go out and get professional pictures, sadly I'm not looking to spend the money right now since I'm on break for school & a broke college student.

I own a nice DSLR camera and I'm planning on trying to get some pictures in the mean time.

I'm thinking a good portrait style photo, a shirtless photo outdoors on the beach, a photo of me on my motorcycle, and an action photo at my muay thai gym would flow with my personality & strong-suits.

You don't have to have "professional" photos per sé. I took most of my better photos myself with a DSLR that I bought 10 years ago and a $20 tripod from Amazon.

This is basically what I'm going to do, get a DSLR camera and have a friend snap photos around the city. Definitely gotta wait until I'm in better shape and do some shopping though. No point being sub par in high resolution.