When I get my order I will have 9 modules.
VCO, WFC, Envelators x 2, Sequantizer x 2, Borg, Wogglebug and Mixolator.

If someone (I'm looking at you, Norman!) were to make anything in 300 format, the top two modules for me would be a couple of Anti-Oscs and a couple of Uncle Oscs.
Btw, is the "Uncle" Osc very similar to the Classic Vco?

Babaluma

little bird told me there will be no more controllers... i got one of the last blue one's made new, then swapped it for the sole black one, and then sold it...

wavecircle

Babaluma wrote:

little bird told me there will be no more controllers... i got one of the last blue one's made new, then swapped it for the sole black one, and then sold it...

Which bird?

This is sad news for me if true. Awesome interface.

ndkent

wavecircle wrote:

Babaluma wrote:

little bird told me there will be no more controllers... i got one of the last blue one's made new, then swapped it for the sole black one, and then sold it...

Which bird?

This is sad news for me if true. Awesome interface.

Though Wiard and perhaps it's new configuration doesn't always mean never when they say "never".

Anyway I remember I visited Grant with a mutual friend in 2000 and the topic came up on what modular had the most quantity made. I guess we concluded Doepfer probably overtook everything by then and we agreed some Buchla modules probably existed in tiny numbers.

Babaluma

it was a friend of a friend type thing, not gospel, but it apparently seems unlikely that any more controllers (or JAGs) will be made in any format, for various reasons.

i repeat, it's HEARSAY not gospel. you should call and ask grant or cary for a definitive answer.

plord

Babaluma wrote:

it was a friend of a friend type thing, not gospel, but it apparently seems unlikely that any more controllers (or JAGs) will be made in any format, for various reasons.

Well, JAGs are coming in Euro Real Soon Now (see Malekko forum) so at least part of that hearsay is disproven.

Ekofisk

I think Cary told me very recently that there were no new controllers being made any more. Whether this is permanent, I wouldn't know.

But I seem to remember Grant saying in some post a few weeks (months?) ago, that new JAG boards had arrived and that this meant a batch of controllers was on it's way? I might recall that wrongly.

(reading over it, this really isn't the most helpful of posts!).

wavecircle

I spoke to Cary about this a good while ago and there were the PCBs and parts available to make them. The sticking point was the panel IIRC. The blue panels are the really expensive part. It costs the same price to make 1 as it does to make hundreds I've been told. I guess they need more people placing orders in order to justify the purchase of plates.

plord

Yeah, just guessing, but my experience with FPE says that the controller panel is likely a $200 item.

wavecircle

Its not the silkscreening that is the problem. The metal has to be dyed on a large scale, i think we are talking thousands to make a batch of blue plates. For this reason 1 costs as much as a large batch. Its a large scale process and wiard would really have to have numerous orders to make it worthwhile.

I have just read that pfe do one offs. Hmm, interesting.

slow_riot

I passed on the information to Babaluma that in a recent conversation with Cary, she had mentioned there are no immediate plans to manufacture the New Controller. I bought B's New Controller and we spoke in person about how Grant had mentioned somewhere that many people don't understand the module, from inference, I believe the NC was to make use of unsold JAG PCBs. It's a great shame as my experience thus far has placed it amongst my most inspiring experiences using music machines. Organic expressive FUN control and modular style meta-decision making (or as any normal person would say: trial and error).

This information was recevied right before the Malekko JAG was announced. If anyone wishes to obtain the wonderful JAG I think euro is your best chance. Or failing that FRAC users migrating and selling on their old equipment.

Oh yeah, anyways, I own a black 310a and 371, 361.

solitaryzen

Babaluma wrote:

it was a friend of a friend type thing, not gospel, but it apparently seems unlikely that any more controllers (or JAGs) will be made in any format, for various reasons.

i repeat, it's HEARSAY not gospel. you should call and ask grant or cary for a definitive answer.

I just e-mailed Grant recently with this very question, but haven't received a reply... hugely disappointing, as there is nothing else remotely similar available. Would've bought yours if I was a bit more cashed up at the time

Babaluma

well, if the jag is definitely coming in euro, then it's not the end of the world!

acidhangover

Just registered to add my system (12 modules + original controller) to the list ...

i owe a video and some soundclouding, after i deal with some flooding im going all in on sharing data

carygrace

plord wrote:

Would be interesting to count them. I bet we have a fair representation just here on Muff's.

Grant, obviously.
Cary Grace too.[/size]

You might find this startling, but Grant never had time in 11 years to build a system for his own use, and I only have one module so far (with no knobs). Interestingly enough, Wiard did not deliberately set out to be a non-profit organization...whoops!

Seems a situation where the demand was not predicted, and so we both forgot to make some for ourselves first...

ModHiisi

acidhangover wrote:

Just registered to add my system (12 modules + original controller) to the list ...

Add me to the list of new users. I just scored a used waveform city and borg from the forum and have six more coming in the next month or two.
My setup will consist of:
2 waveform cities
2 Borgs
Sequantizer
Envelator
Mixolator
Classic Vco
Wogglebug
Just the waveform city and borg is enough to keep my tail wagging until I get more. What an amazing system so far.

chamomileshark

you've got a full synth system with those two - waveform city has

- oscillator
- envelopes
- VCA

so all you need for a "standard" synth is a filter. Which is the Borg. And then you also have an LPG and LFOs.

el clon

it's true. they're such complex, dense modules i feel like a glutton for wanting more...

miditerranean

sensanalog wrote:

Add me to the list of new users. I just scored a used waveform city and borg from the forum and have six more coming in the next month or two.
My setup will consist of:
2 waveform cities
2 Borgs
Sequantizer
Envelator
Mixolator
Classic Vco
Wogglebug
Just the waveform city and borg is enough to keep my tail wagging until I get more. What an amazing system so far.

That brief moment I got to jam on your Waveform City / Borg was awesome! Hopefully some day I will have some 300 modules but seems way out of reach at the moment.