I have been trying Vincent Vhristopherson's method of fall germination this year. the idea is to take a seed pod that is just about to open, after it has ripened, open, take the seed out and place in a baggie with some damp sand. 12 weeks in the fridge, then take out during the day time to stimulate the seeds with warmth of the late summer. So far have not seen any sign of germination I've tried 10 pods this way. I had great success this past spring with my spring germination,(over winter in the fridge) had planted 475 sprouted seedlings into 16 oz plastic drinking glasses, with several drainage holes burnt into the bottoms. I planted them out this fall into a garden area, . I notice that most have multiple growths, so am curious as to what spring will bring.

The several hundred seedlings that sprouted and normally would have been
lined out remain in the seedling pots. Can't dig here without water. Those
seeds had the best germination of any seeds I've ever planted, percentage
wise. They are also having the best subsequent fall - or late - germination
I've ever had. I'm now looking at hundreds of the little fellows that may
spend their entire life stuck in a pot. I'm convinced now that germination
isn't entirely tied to temps. Germination came to a complete halt in April
when the temps got consistantly warm, but the fall germination started at
the end of
Augst when the temps were consistantly warmer than when they shut off. I
think the seeds must track the trend of the ongoing temps, which is not
quite the same as being dependent on the actual temp. That means they shut
down when the temps are continually rising, but reactivate when those temps
start going lower. Otherwise they wouldn't be starting so early. In any
case, a month or so ago when I counted there were nearly 70 new plants, so
I'm probably close or past a hundred or so now. They keep coming. The
photo is of a cross where there was only one seedling at the end of spring
and now has twelve in the fall, the newest showing up today. Seen a lot of
that this fall in the pots. Seven pods that had no germination at all now
have seedlings. I really wish now I hadn't dragged out any of the stored
seeds and planted them. I'm not at all sure even with some rain and
moisture I'll be able to manage the number of seedlings I have.