timd and I are fairly well connected with liquor stores in the DFW area. Many managers know us by name and even have our phone numbers in their personal cell phones. It's thanks to these connections that we get to always get to hear the juicy drama as it unfolds.

Now, anyone who has ever spoken to a distributor rep knows that they aren't the sharpest tools in the box. In fact, it's a wonder that they get anything accomplished with their heads so far up their asses. Despite all the stories I've heard this latest morsel of news absolutely takes the cake.

RNDC, one of the two major distributors in Texas, in their inevitable infinite wisdom, accidentally shipped the entire North Texas off premise allocation of Pappy to Sigel's. And guess what? Sigel's does not want to give it back :lol:

I'm not sure what to make of this right now, I'm going to follow up and see where the story is heading, but I can assure you there are a lot of PO'd people at Goody Goody and Spec's.

Bmac

04-13-2012, 11:09

HOLY smokes! Is Sigel's selling any of it? ;)

I just talked to the manager at Sepc's today and he said his shipment is on it's way. Guess it isn't O_O

Keep us posted!

timd

04-13-2012, 11:59

HOLY smokes! Is Sigel's selling any of it? ;)

I just talked to the manager at Sepc's today and he said his shipment is on it's way. Guess it isn't O_O

Keep us posted!
My source said that it's not only gone to Sigel's alone - but to a single store!

Needless to say the other bigger retailers are pissed. My guy runs one of the bigger chain stores in town, and was just dumbfounded by this.

Of course, come Fall allocation, I'm guessing this will bite Sigel's in the butt - which is fine by me, since I prefer the VWFRR & BTAC stuff to the standard Pappys... so maybe my guy will get more than ususal!

FWIW: Specs has the ability to move things across counties by using their distributor to buy back from Houston/Austin/San Antonio stores and re-distribute to RDNC in Dallas, so they may still get some Pappy, but it won't be much - I'd guess 75% of Texas' Pappy goes to Houston alone...

spinningrecords

04-14-2012, 07:11

The right thing to do is to hold the product until the distributor makes arrangements to re-direct the allocations to the appropriate retailers. If it was me, I would suspend their future allocations indefinitely for anything less. The fact that everything went to one location makes the issue fairly easy to resolve.

So just out of courosity...exactly how much juice was in the entire allocation?

theDon

04-14-2012, 07:24

3 bottles........................

mrviognier

04-15-2012, 06:50

Sadly, things like this happen all the time...but it isn't the sales rep's fault. If anything, the VP of Spirits is to blame.

When highly-desirable/allocated products arrive at the distributor's warehouse, it's this person's responsibility to ensure that the entire inventory is placed on "hold" status, and can only be released for an order with the VP's approval. I'm guessing that this didn't happen...and the cases were placed in general inventory. The sales rep for that Specs saw that the product was available, informed the buyer, and the order was placed.

I've seen this happen countless times. Usually the account gives back most (if not all) of the product...but not without some concessions made by the distributor. My guess is that if Specs tells RNDC to pound sand that the enterprising rep is in danger of losing his job.

Bmac

04-15-2012, 18:24

Sooooooo......was it Spec's who recieved the allotment? Was it even in Dall/FT Worth area?

mrviognier

04-15-2012, 18:28

Sorry...thought Sigel's, wrote Spec's.

StraightNoChaser

04-16-2012, 15:08

I have heard from someone else who is especially wired with industry folks and tells me there's a deeper conspiracy involved here...

redbear

04-16-2012, 15:22

I should have been paying closer attention. Pappy came and went in the Austin Specs over the weekend.

Bmac

04-16-2012, 21:02

I have heard from someone else who is especially wired with industry folks and tells me there's a deeper conspiracy involved here...

LoL! Be careful and judicious with the word "conspiracy" around here. Next thing you know we'll have another controversial thread replete with graphics 48 pages deep :grin:

Jonny.Applebury

04-16-2012, 21:08

LoL! Be careful and judicious with the word "conspiracy" around here. Next thing you know we'll have another controversial thread replete with graphics 48 pages deep :grin:

And it'll be deleted, too. :shocked:

smokinjoe

04-16-2012, 21:22

And it'll be deleted, too. :shocked:

Conspiracy theories are fine, folks. Nothing has ever been deleted for that, regardless of their outlandishness. But, when people can't be civil in those types of forums, and continue to be insulting, then be gone with them.

mrviognier

04-17-2012, 04:42

I have heard from someone else who is especially wired with industry folks and tells me there's a deeper conspiracy involved here...

I find that pretty dubious. What constitutes a "conspiracy"?

soad

04-17-2012, 08:05

I find that pretty dubious. What constitutes a "conspiracy"?

I heard from a scouce that there was a guy on the grassy knoll with a bottle of Pappy 20.

White Dog

04-17-2012, 09:00

I heard from a scouce that there was a guy on the grassy knoll with a bottle of Pappy 20.

Like the new avatar. Is that Mellow Corn?

soad

04-17-2012, 09:06

Like the new avatar. Is that Mellow Corn?

Yep, just got my first bottle a few weeks ago. LOVE the stuff, it's almost gone now....

White Dog

04-17-2012, 09:16

Yep, just got my first bottle a few weeks ago. LOVE the stuff, it's almost gone now....

MC never lasts long in my house either.:grin:

Tarheel72

04-17-2012, 10:25

So is it all still at one Sigel's or have they spread it around? That is of course assuming that they are actually selling it. I get mine at Goody Goody so it sounds like they will not have any yet.

By the way, does anyone know where to get some Very Old Barton BIB 100 proof in the DFW area? They only seem to carry the 86 proof at G-G.

wadewood

04-17-2012, 10:58

So is it all still at one Sigel's or have they spread it around? That is of course assuming that they are actually selling it. I get mine at Goody Goody so it sounds like they will not have any yet.

By the way, does anyone know where to get some Very Old Barton BIB 100 proof in the DFW area? They only seem to carry the 86 proof at G-G.

Pretty sure the VOB BIB 100 proof is KY only (and maybe Binnys).

TomH

04-17-2012, 12:12

Just to confirm, Binny's does carry VOB BIB

theDon

04-17-2012, 12:46

So is it all still at one Sigel's or have they spread it around? That is of course assuming that they are actually selling it. I get mine at Goody Goody so it sounds like they will not have any yet.

By the way, does anyone know where to get some Very Old Barton BIB 100 proof in the DFW area? They only seem to carry the 86 proof at G-G.

Thanks, just saw this post. Maybe I will see if my local G-G will get some in. I live in West Plano and usually go to the one on 121 and sometimes the one in Addison, and so far I have not seen anything at either but the 86 proof.

theDon

04-17-2012, 14:06

Thanks, just saw this post. Maybe I will see if my local G-G will get some in. I live in West Plano and usually go to the one on 121 and sometimes the one in Addison, and so far I have not seen anything at either but the 86 proof.

Just go here http://www.goodygoody.com/inventory.aspx . There are several Goody's that have it listed in their inventory. Addison has it.

Tarheel72

04-17-2012, 15:07

Just go here http://www.goodygoody.com/inventory.aspx . There are several Goody's that have it listed in their inventory. Addison has it.

Thanks I was there today but guess I missed it. I picked up the 1.75 L bottle of the 86 proof. Guess I have to make another trip now.

Jonny.Applebury

04-17-2012, 15:30

Thanks. Does that go for the 90 proof as well?

I'm pretty sure I've seen Very Old Barton in 100, 90, and 86 proofs at Binny's. I may be mistaken and either the 90 proof or the 86 proof could have been the 80 proof, instead.

Also, I've seen the 100 proof everywhere in Memphis, TN.

DBMaster

04-17-2012, 16:43

I have purchased VOB BIB twice at Goody-Goody in Highland Village. They have one of the other proofs, but I didn't even look at it as I was only looking for the 100. I would have to guess that more than the HV store would have it. I have found, strangely enough, that the Addison store often has lower prices than the other locations. The GM has told me that is due to local competition. They have Booker's at the Addison store for $42 and change - cheapest you'll find.

Josh

04-17-2012, 19:51

VOB 90 proof is actually available in Michigan.

Tarheel72

04-18-2012, 05:38

You guys are really a wealth of knowledge. I need to get out of the store and come here more often. Thanks

StraightNoChaser

04-18-2012, 11:22

Pappy's hit the stores today. Apparently no one got the 15 yet.. just a mix of the others.

Trey Manthey

04-18-2012, 12:36

Pappy's hit the stores today. Apparently no one got the 15 yet.. just a mix of the others.

Alright, everybody...one, two, three, FREAK OUT!

weller_tex

04-18-2012, 12:48

Just go here http://www.goodygoody.com/inventory.aspx . There are several Goody's that have it listed in their inventory. Addison has it.

I stand corrected.....

weller_tex

04-18-2012, 12:49

Pappy's hit the stores today. Apparently no one got the 15 yet.. just a mix of the others.
When Spec's here in Houston told me they had the Lot B (I got the last one), the90 and 107 ORVW but did not mention the 15 I just assumed that had already been handed out to the elite of the elite..maybe they never received any.

StraightNoChaser

04-18-2012, 18:50

My buddy bought and opened a Pappy 20. I swear it tastes like BT mixed in. Blech. So sour and sappy on the finish.