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Power Rankings: Maple Leafs sticking it to stat heads

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Power Rankings: Maple Leafs sticking it to stat heads

The Maple Leafs are getting out shot nearly every night, but are keeping afloat with strong special teams and goaltending. This and more in our weekly ranking of each NHL team.

A lot of those stats geeks will probably go out for Halloween tonight and somehow come up with a set of complex calculations that place more value on the homes that give kiss candies than the ones that distribute Snickers bars and bags of chips.

These are the same guys who must hate the Toronto Maple Leafs. Statistically, the Leafs are a nightmare and avowed enemy of all who live in their mothers’ basements. They consistently get outshot and outplayed, but they’ve been constantly winning. To wit: there is only one team in the NHL that gets outshot on a per-game average more than the Leafs and that is the putrid Buffalo Sabres.

But the last time we checked, good old save percentages and special teams stats were pretty relevant numbers, too. The Leafs are feasting on those and rocketing up the Power Rankings. (Last week’s rankings in parentheses.)

1. Colorado (2): Goaltender Semyon Varlamov faces some very serious allegations that should not be minimized. Yes, it’s trite to wonder how they might affect the Avalanche and their star goaltender, but it would take an incredibly focused athlete to be able to put something this dire aside.

2. Toronto (9): The Western Conference has dominated the Eastern Conference this season with one notable exception: the Maple Leafs are 6-2-0 against western teams. An injury to Tyler Bozak prompted coach Randy Carlyle to put Nazem Kadri with Phil Kessel and the results have been breathtaking at times. Defensively, they’re scarier than any ghoul you’ll encounter tonight, but when you have the puck that much…

3. San Jose (1): The Sharks have a goal differential of plus-27, largely because they rarely give up offensive chances or even-strength goals. The Sharks finished a five-game road trip Wednesday night with a 3-1-1 record that included two shutouts for goaltender Antti Niemi and a 38-save effort by backup Alex Stalock. Patrick Marleau has emerged as the early favorite for Comeback Player of the Year.

4. Vancouver (17): The Canucks risk playing the Sedin twins and Ryan Kesler into skeletal remains, but you can’t argue with the success they’ve been having of late. For some bizarre reason, nobody is asking what Tom Sestito has to do to earn a little more ice time. The three are getting more ice time on a regular basis than any of the Canucks defensemen these days.

5. Anaheim (5): The Ducks haven’t played particularly well lately – opening a road trip by losing to Toronto and Montreal before picking up one-goal wins against non-playoff teams Ottawa, Columbus and Philadelphia – but they’re still 10-3-0. If not for the play of the Avalanche and Sharks, the Ducks would be the story of the Western Conference. Corey Perry and Ryan Getzlaf are back to being one of the most dangerous duos in the league. Imagine how good they’d be if they could ever score a power-play goal.

6. St. Louis (4): The Blues will move up in the standings even more once they catch up with everyone on the games played front. Their first line of Alex Steen between David Backes and T.J. Oshie might be the best in the league right now. Steen is more suited to the Selke Trophy than the Rocket Richard, but feel free to enjoy the fact that he is leading the NHL in goals at the moment.

7. Pittsburgh (3): Sidney Crosby has eight more points than the next highest scorer on his team and, despite some declining production of late, is on pace to score 132 points this season. Nobody has put up those kinds of numbers in 17 years. Goalie Marc-Andre Fleury is off to the best start of his career and that wind you feel is everyone in Pittsburgh exhaling in relief.

8. Chicago (6): You don’t win championships the way the Blackhawks are playing at the moment, but people shouldn’t be too worried about the fact the Blackhawks are winning hockey games as though they’re track meets. And the worst penalty killing in the league? Really? Chicago? They give up too many chances and too many goals, but there’s no reason to believe Joel Quenneville won’t have this group tightened up and ready for another run by the playoffs.

9. Tampa Bay (10): Steven Stamkos was the No. 1 star of the week in the NHL, largely because he and Martin St-Louis are carrying the Lightning offensively. For whatever reason, they came out limp against the New Jersey Devils Tuesday night, prompting coach Jon Cooper to quip that Martin Brodeur, “could have had a cigarette and a cup of coffee and played that game.” Not bad.

10. Phoenix (7): The Coyotes are fourth in the Pacific Division, but they’d be second if they were in either the Atlantic or Metropolitan. Kyle Chipchura had a Gordie Howe hat trick in a 3-1 statement win over Los Angeles Tuesday night, a down-and-dirty affair that typifies much of the play in the Western Conference. Oliver Ekman-Larsson is making a serious bid for the Norris Trophy.

11. Los Angeles (12): Anze Kopitar has only two goals this season, but his contribution to the Kings in terms of winning has been enormous. First, one of those goals is an overtime winner. Second, he’s scored three deciding shootout goals this season. Shootout has become a dirty word in the NHL of late, but those are three points the Kings have because of Kopitar.

12. Montreal (15): With the exception of the Avalanche, no team is getting better goaltending from its No. 1 and backup than the Canadiens are. And they’re stopping just the shots that get through. The Canadiens lead the league with 243 blocked shots, with Josh Gorges tied for second in the league with 39. Lars and the Real Gals have cooled a bit, but Tomas Plekanec has picked up the offensive slack.

13. Detroit (14): The Red Wings are 7-4-2 and have somehow managed to give up five more goals than they’ve scored. That’s very un-Red Wing of them, but they did manage to tighten things up rather nicely in a 2-1 road win over the Vancouver Canucks Wednesday night. By the way, Stephen Weiss did sign with the Red Wings over the summer, right? Just checking.

14. Boston (8): The Bruins have the 22nd ranked power play and the 28th ranked penalty kill in the NHL. Put them together and you have one of the worst special teams squads in the NHL so far this season. No wonder the Bruins have been putting Zdeno Chara in front of the net during power plays. Jarome Iginla leads the Bruins with 32 shots on goal.

15. Minnesota (18): The Wild is having a heck of a time scoring goals, particularly 5-on-5, so coach Mike Yeo tried to balance out his lines with the imminent return of Charlie Coyle to the lineup Friday night. After missing 11 games, Coyle will center Zach Parise and either Dany Heatley or Justin Fontaine. That knocks Mikko Koivu off the top line and onto a unit with Nino Niederreiter and Kyle Brodziak.

16. Nashville (19): Starting tonight in Phoenix, the Predators start a stretch in which they’ll play nine of their next 10 games on the road and the seven-game road trip that starts tonight is the longest in franchise history. And with Pekka Rinne sidelined with a hip infection, they’ll be pinning their goaltending hopes on Carter Hutton and Magnus Hellberg. Don’t be ashamed if you have to look them up.

17. Carolina (16): The Hurricanes would be even lower if they didn’t play in the worst division in organized hockey, thus holding down a playoff spot with a sub. 500 record. The Hurricanes go into Friday night’s game against Tampa Bay with a goal differential of minus-10, a losing record on home ice and a 3-5-2 record in their past 10 games. Aside from that, they’re a powerhouse.

18. NY Islanders (21): Same as above goes for the Islanders, who are hoping to capitalize on their weak division by making a run for the playoffs with a lineup bolstered by Thomas Vanek. Don’t read much into the fact that Matt Moulson outscored Vanek 2-0 in their first games with the new teams. Vanek will be a positive force for the Islanders once he develops some chemistry with John Tavares and Kyle Okposo.

19. New Jersey (27): The Devils looked like their old, stingy selves in a 2-1 win over Tampa Bay Tuesday night. The Devils are undefeated in regulation time at home, but are the worst road team in the NHL with a 1-5-2 mark. But the Devils are riding a two-game winning streak and are 3-1-1 in their past five. With Cory Schneider out with an injury, the goaltending hopes fall to Martin Brodeur. Here’s hoping he can handle it

20. Calgary (11): The fact that the Flames continue to hang in there with a .500 record is an outstanding feat given the dire predictions for them when the season began. After getting off to a hot start, rookie Sean Monahan has just one point in his past four games and was minus-3 in the Flames loss to Toronto Wednesday night. That’s good news for Canada’s world junior team and, ultimately, the Ottawa 67s.

21. Winnipeg (23): If anyone can figure this team out, please contact our offices immediately and explain the Jets to us. They played well enough to win in St. Louis Tuesday night, but gave the best power play in the league five chances to click and it’s what ultimately did them in. The Jets finished up a four-game road trip 1-2-1, all of them one-goal games.

22. Columbus (20): The move to the Eastern Conference hasn’t paid huge dividends for the Blue Jackets yet, but they do have a 4-4-0 record against their new playmates. The Blue Jackets are on the outside of the playoffs looking in because their play in their own end of the ice hasn’t been very good lately and unlike last year, Vezina Trophy winner Sergei Bobrovsky hasn’t been able to stop those turnovers from going into the back of the net.

23. Dallas (25): Sergei Gonchar is a notoriously slow starter and this season, his first with Dallas, is no exception, but he’s certainly not in a minority when it comes to veterans and so-so play. The Stars are making a lot of mistakes with and without the puck. You can live with that when the players are young and inexperienced, but the more seasoned players are going to have to step to the fore.

24. Ottawa (13): The Senators are struggling, after going 1-3-0 in their past four games. The most stinging of those was to the Stanley Cup champions Tuesday night when they blew a third period lead by giving up three goals. The Senators are something of a mess defensively at the moment and have had a pretty nasty schedule to start the season.

25. Washington (22): Alex Ovechkin was held pointless in two games and will miss Friday night’s game against Philadelphia. The Capitals give up way too many shots and turn the puck over far too much to make up for their ability to score and feast on power play opportunities. A fun bunch to watch? Absolutely, unless of course, you’re Adam Oates.

26. NY Rangers (28): Really bad combination here. The Rangers are 29th in goals for and 28th in goals against. But they have tightened up under backup Cam Talbot recently and have allowed just 12 goals in their past six games. We’ll see how good the Rangers are now that they’re home for an extended period of time for the first time this season. Because they’re not really this bad, are they?

27. Florida (24): Wow. These guys really lost to the Buffalo Sabres. Jacob Markstrom has had to shoulder most of the goaltending load with the constant injury problems to Tim Thomas and has held up reasonably well. The Panthers play a good number of tight games, but they almost always find a way to come out on the losing end of them.

28. Philadelphia (29): The Flyers have four games coming up against teams in the worst division in hockey. Wait a minute. You say they’re the worst team in the worst division in hockey? Never mind. This is the worst start in franchise history and a nightmare for Claude Giroux’s bid to play for Canada’s Olympic team.

29. Edmonton (26): Imagine how bad the Oilers would be if their players weren’t blocking all those shots. Edmonton is second in the league with 228 blocked shots so far this season, but terrible goaltending has undermined them. Is Richard Bachman the answer? Seriously, is Richard Bachman the answer?

30. Buffalo (30): The Sabres have a bunch of rookies on defense, just traded their franchise player and have one regulation win this season. Ryan Miller is probably thinking about where he’s going soon and the Sabres have basically just handed the reins of their rebuild to Darcy Regier. On the bright side, rookie Mark Pysyk is one of three rookies who have acquitted themselves well on the blueline.

Blackhawks emergency backup Eric Semborski gets his own rookie card

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Blackhawks emergency backup Eric Semborski gets his own rookie card

Eric Semborski landed himself the opportunity of a lifetime when he strapped on the pads as an emergency backup for the Blackhawks, and now Topps has commemorated the moment with a Semborski trading card.

Eric Semborski’s dream came true when he stepped on the ice as an NHL goaltender, albeit an emergency backup, on Dec. 3, and now he’s got an incredible piece of memorabilia to show for it.

Just days after the 23-year-old made his rookie debut, trading card company Topps has unveiled the official Eric Semborski rookie card. That’s right: the 23-year-old has his very own trading card. The card is part of Topps’ NOW series, which features milestone or memorable moments and are made available shortly after the achievement.

Semborski’s stint as the Blackhawks emergency goaltender came due to regular starting netminder Corey Crawford was sent to hospital to undergo an appendectomy. The Blackhawks were scrambling to find a replacement for Crawford, and a backup for Scott Darling, when they started asking around to find an emergency amateur netminder to fill in.

Semborski, a former goaltender at Temple University, was working with children at the Flyers’ practice facility when he was called to sign on for emergency duty. Hilariously, Semborski wore a Blackhawks No. 50 jersey — which most will recognize as Crawford’s number — when he took the ice for warmup. Of the chance to stop NHL shots in warmup, Semborski said it was the best moment of his life.

Possibly the only thing that could have made the moment better was if Semborski actually got into the game and, as it turns out, that was very nearly the case. Post-game, Blackhawks coach Joel Quenneville said that had the Flyers scored on the empty net to stretch their lead in the Saturday afternoon contest, he would have thrown Semborski into the net for the final minute of the outing.

As for the card, there’s no chance it will be worth anything near what a Connor McDavid rookie card will be worth in a decade, but it’s certainly a nice piece of merchandise for the one-day NHL netminder.

Montreal can't panic over injuries to Galchenyuk and Desharnais

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Montreal can't panic over injuries to Galchenyuk and Desharnais

While the loss of the two centers is a crushing blow in the short-term, this team is positioned too well to lose assets in a hasty trade scenario

The Montreal Canadiens will be without top center Alex Galchenyuk and fellow pivot David Desharnais for at least six weeks, perhaps even eight. Both players sustained knee injuries in recent games and the news is obviously not good. But GM Marc Bergevin would make it even worse by jumping into a hasty trade.

True, the Habs now look skeletal down the middle (though Tomas Plekanec isn't a horrible choice for the top line and Andrew Shaw can help out), but this is a short-term problem. Montreal is the top team in the Eastern Conference right now and with netminder Carey Price, they can win more than a few games in the next month or so just on the strength of his gifted play. And the Shea Weber-led defense has been better than expected, so even if the Habs are super-boring and conservative until February, they'll get some results.

Will Montreal still be on top by then? Maybe not, but as long as they don't lose like, 20 games in a row, they'll still be in a playoff position with enough runway left to climb back up the rungs. And as the Los Angeles Kings have proven twice already, you can win the Stanley Cup as long as you get into the playoffs, particularly if your goalie is one of the best on the planet (caveat: being a great possession team helps and the Canadiens are only middling).

But a trade is not the way to go, particularly since the Canadiens aren't deep to begin with. They don't have many attractive pro prospects right now – unless they can drum up interest in a Charles Hudon or Nikita Scherbak – and their best recent draft pick is defenseman Mikhail Sergachev, who should be seen as untouchable. I mean, if Pittsburgh offers up Evgeni Malkin for the 2016 first-rounder and a couple other goodies, you make that trade – but I don't think that's going to happen.

If anything, Montreal needs to build their pipeline up, instead of taking assets away from it. The Canadiens ranked just 23rd in the NHL in our most recent Future Watch edition and Sergachev was the only pick they made in the first two rounds this summer. They do have two second-rounders for 2017 (their own and Washington's selection), but again: they need those.

Galchenyuk and Desharnais will be back and in all likelihood, the Canadiens will still be in a playoff position. The short-term may seem a little bleak, but the price of a quick patch isn't worth the long-term loss. Patience is a virtue here.

Prospect Need to Know: Brett Murray growing for Buffalo

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Prospect Need to Know: Brett Murray growing for Buffalo

The budding power forward is having a successful season with USHL Youngstown, with Penn State on the horizon. Learn about him and other future NHLers in our weekly wrap

The world junior camp rosters are really rolling out now and there have been some minor surprises. Sweden will not be taking a last look at 2017 draft prospects Timothy Liljegren and Erik Brannstrom on defense, while Russia is taking a pass on Columbus pick Vitalii Abramov, among others. And now we know that Nolan Patrick will not suit up for Canada, due to injury. But let's concentrate on the player around the prospect world that are having good weeks. As always, here's our wrap-up of who is making waves.

The Spotlight

Brett Murray, LW (Buffalo): We are just beginning to see what Murray is capable on the ice, but it's been a pretty good show already. The burgeoning power forward has the right frame at 6-foot-5 and 222 pounds and has put up 16 points in his first 22 USHL games with the Youngstown Phantoms. Now it's just a matter of speed for the Sabres' fourth-rounder.

“Being a bigger guy, my acceleration and quickness off the start is something I can work on," Murray said. "Always improving top speed in open-ice skating is a huge thing.”

With that foreboding frame, Murray can grow into a force once he puts it all together. The early results are encouraging and he already has championship experience from this past season, when he helped the CCHL's Carleton Place Canadians win their Jr. A title in Ontario's Ottawa region. In Youngstown, he's facing tougher competition and the stakes will rise again next year when he heads to Hockey Valley and the NCAA's Penn State Nittany Lions.

“It just seemed like the right fit," Murray said. "They have a new state-of-the-art facility and as a progression for me, just being in the gym every day with an elite strength and conditioning coach and nutritionist seemed like the best for me.”

So if everything goes according to plan, Buffalo will have a beast of a left winger once Murray is finished in the NCAA. He's already got the instincts to be a handful.

“I like to work the puck down low in the corners," he said. "Use my size and skill to create space for my linemates and myself.”

And with the World Jr. A Challenge coming up in Bonnyville, Alta., Murray is proof of what that tournament can do for a prospect that isn't necessarily on the mainstream radar. Murray played for Canada East last season and soaked in everything he could from international duty.

“I really enjoyed it," he said. "It was an excellent experience, matching myself up against top prospects from other countries and even my linemates.”

In The Pipeline

Sergei Zborovskiy, D (NY Rangers): Games don’t get much better than the seven-pointer Zborovskiy hung on poor Prince Albert in his Regina Pats’ 12-2 destruction. The big-bodied defenseman was all over the place, jumping into scoring positions and getting pucks to the net. He has also been invited to Russia’s final world junior camp.

Carter Hart, G (Philadelphia): It seems like I’m mentioning Hart a lot lately, but I can’t help it because he refuses to give up goals. Using structure and technique, the favorite heading into Canada’s WJC camp posted three straight shutouts before Medicine Hat finally dented the armor in his most recent game. Hart still got the win, though.

Guillaume Brisebois, D (Vancouver): Canada has a lot of options on the blueline, so it will be interesting to see if Brisebois can snag a spot. The Charlottetown Islanders rearguard has great size and skating ability, helping him to 17 points through 23 games. But he can also use his tools to shut players down and that might be his key to making the world juniors.

Henrik Borgstrom, C (Florida): He’s been great all year for NCAA Denver, but the announcement of Finland’s world junior roster gives us another reason to mention the speedy and talented freshman. Borgstrom has 16 points through 14 games with the Pioneers and Finland will need his offense with so many big names from last year’s squad unavailable.

Caleb Jones, D (Edmonton): Team USA named its preliminary world junior roster on Monday and it's looking like a solid crew. But who will step up on defense with so many options? Jones is one candidate, as his combination of physicality and skill make him dangerous. The Portland Winterhawks rearguard has an impressive 25 points in 28 WHL games this year.

2017 Draft Stars

Robert Thomas, C – London Knights (OHL): Thomas had one heckuva coming out party on the weekend, racking up five points for the Knights in a 6-2 win over Flint. Strong on his skates and blessed with some fantastic offensive moves, Thomas now has 30 points in 27 games on a deep team.

Owen Tippett, RW – Mississauga Steelheads (OHL): There is so much to like about Tippett’s game, from his size (6-foot-2, 204 pounds) to his skating to his shot. All of those were in full gear against Ottawa on the weekend, where Tippett popped in four points in a 6-3 victory.

Lias Andersson, C – HV 71 (SHL): One of three draft prospects to make Sweden’s final WJC camp roster, Andersson plays an excellent two-way game and already has chemistry with Carl Grundstrom and Elias Pettersson on the international stage. Back with HV 71, Andersson is one of the top-scoring junior-aged players in the SHL with eight points in 22 games.

Jayson Dobay, D – Thayer Academy Tigers (Mass. HS): An excellent skater with great offensive instincts, Dobay is a UMass commit and one to watch in the New England prep ranks this season. With six assists in his first three games for the Tigers, his campaign is off to a great start.

Jesse Bjugstad, D – Stillwater Ponies (Minn. HS): When you think of Minnesota high school defensemen, finesse and skating usually comes to mind. But Bjugstad can also play the game with an edge. The 6-foot-2, 185-pounder has great NHL pedigree (dad Scott, cousin Nick) and has kicked off the season with two goals in two games.

Goalies unmasked: Eight NHLers sound off on the position's hot topics

The Panel

How has goaltending changed compared to when you first started your career?

CORY SCHNEIDER: I came in the league with some of the guys at the end of the past generation, but I’ve also been around for some of the newer techniques and technologies and younger goalies. Just from what I’ve seen, the technique today is so good. Kids are learning this stuff at six, seven, eight years old, and they’re playing year round, and their technique is almost impeccable. I watch guys come into the league now, and they all seem to play like Carey Price.

ROBERTO LUONGO: If I still played the way I did back in the day, I wouldn’t be in the NHL anymore. You have to evolve with the time and the position and the new techniques that come out every year.

DOMINIK HASEK: I see a big change with the sliding. I wasn’t a sliding goalie. I was a butterfly goalie, but I was more up and down. Quickly down, quickly up. Today it seems the goalies look lazy, but they are not lazy. The style can look like that. They’re on their knees even when the puck is behind they net. They don’t go quickly up. They stay on one knee. My goalie coach told me it started in the ’90s in Finland. Through the sliding you cover the lower part of the net unbelievably, much better than we did as a group as goalies in the ’90s.

MITCH KORN: Everybody shoots the puck hard. Pucks are shot now harder and faster than ever before. Sticks are made of this material, and they tell me there is metal in them now. I can tell you this: it’s not your grandfather’s wooden sticks propelling pucks to the net now.

MARTIN BRODEUR: The last few years I played – and now I watch a lot of hockey and a lot of goalies – I see it’s a lot more demanding physically than it used to be, because of how fast and good everybody’s getting a younger age. Also because they take…I wouldn’t say liberties, because they want to score goals, but there’s not a price to pay to go to the net hard. Back then, with Scott Stevens and Ken Daneyko around me, if someone wanted to go to the net really hard, he would’ve paid a hefty price.

SCHNEIDER: When you look back at the older generations, you saw more improvisation. That’s a natural reaction of not being as technical. Guys like Marty Brodeur and Dominik Hasek and Mike Richter just made it up as they went. They read they game so well that they knew exactly what they were doing, but it looked like they had no technique. I’m not saying young guys don’t have that flair, that read of the game. I think they do. But some of that gamesmanship, going out and finding any way to stop the puck, it’s disappeared a little bit.

BRODEUR: The backups are better. They’re more prepared. Kids in the minors are more prepared. Before there was a huge drop from the No. 1 to the No. 2. Now you don’t even see that drop almost, unless you put it on a full-year-scale. You had Mike Condon come in last year out of college, he had to play all these games for Montreal. He got exposed a little bit, but when he was able to play a few games, you couldn’t even tell who was the No. 1 or No. 2 goalie.

JAMIE MCLENNAN: It’s harder to be a pro athlete today, period, because there’s no downtime in the public eye. Before you could be a human and you could hide a little bit, because there wasn’t social media and media outlets tracking your every move. Information has come to the forefront. There are always people trying to dig for deeper information on you as a person and an athlete.

What are the biggest differences between this goalie generation and the last in training and preparation?

COREY HIRSCH: The equipment. Goalies are able to practise harder, longer. Practice used to be survival. You really never got any better unless you were already a good goalie. Think of the stuff Mike Palmateer used to have to use. Think he was standing in front of a Zdeno Chara slapshot in practice with that stuff on? Not a chance. (laughs)

KORN: It’s way harder to be a goalie today. However, the goalies have greater luxuries today, because the equipment’s way better and way more protective, which allows you to actually practise hard. In the old days the equipment was so poor that even though guys didn’t shoot like they do now, you couldn’t work on your game, especially without masks.

HASEK: The equipment is much better than it was in the ’80s. The goalies can practise much harder, because they do not have to be afraid of the puck. Everything is very well covered. I remember in the ’80s, we had to be a little bit careful. You couldn’t catch the puck in your hand or glove. If you got hit on the shoulder or somewhere on the groin or from the side, it could be very painful.

SCHNEIDER: You’re getting incredible athletes in the net now. I’m seeing guys come into camp, and they’re 6-foot-3, 6-foot-4, they weigh 220 pounds, and they have six percent body fat. They look like linebackers or tight ends. It used to be that goalies were just guys who can stop the puck, and they weren’t known for their physique. But now you look at some guys around the league, they’re tall, they’re strong, they’re athletic, and it’s almost not even a fair fight anymore. And that’s great. The goaltending position’s so athletic now that they’re drawing the kind of guys that maybe would’ve played defense or forward or a different sport.

HIRSCH: Goalies are in so much better shape now. That’s part of it. Most of us didn’t work out back in the ’80s. And then Mike Richter and Eddie Belfour ruined it for everybody. Let’s blame Vladislav Tretiak. Did Ken Dryden ever lift a weight? I don’t know. Mike Richter was a machine. You have no idea. Both of my legs put together were one of his. He won the Rangers fitness award every year.

KORN: Every organization has two goalie coaches now, one for the NHL and one for development, and some even have three. These young people are getting good goalie coaching as youths before they even get drafted or turn pro, which gets them way more prepared than they used to be. And the digital age, the ability to share information, the number of games they can watch, nationally, internationally, is amazing. When I grew up, I got to watch one game a week: Hockey Night in Canada, Saturday night. Now, with the Center Ice package, with satellite dishes, the Euro goalies are watching all of North America, which they never could before, and we can watch growing up every game, every goalie, every move they make. YouTube, NHL.com and Twitter provide information we never had before.

BRODEUR: When I started, there were maybe a few goalies who used to skate with a goalie coach in the summer. It never happened. Now there are full-fledged camps. There are eight NHL goalies coming in from eight different teams, practising together for a week in the summer. You’ve never seen that before. You’ve got guys who are outside sources. They’re not even employed by NHL teams, these coaches. There are just gurus out there who have their own players, personally coached, and you see the same thing going with forwards.

SCHNEIDER: At the same time, the days where kids played three sports and learned other skills are disappearing a bit. I played baseball and soccer up until high school, and I loved it. It helped my footwork. It helped my hand-eye co-ordination. So many guys get locked in year-round to hockey at 10, 11, 12 that maybe they’re prone to more injuries, like hip injuries, because they haven’t used their hips in other ways besides goaltending. I’ve heard kids from college and the minors are having double hip labrum surgeries. For the generation ahead of me and my generation, that’s rare. It seems like it’s the Tommy John now of hockey.

GRANT FUHR: There’s more time spent on goalies now, through specialized coaching and that sort of thing. It’s not so much you learn on the fly as you go anymore as you get help right out of the gate. We learned on our own. You figured the position out for yourself. Or you hoped you had a great partner that helped you out with it. Mitch Korn in Buffalo was the first goalie coach I had.

BRODEUR: I kind of laugh when people talk about terms of how they make saves. Different positioning off the post, a post lean or whatever. That was never in the language back then. I’d never heard of that. Puck tracking. These terms are fairly new.

Have goalies become too good?

LUONGO: I don’t think that’s the issue. The issue is just the way the game’s played now, with coaching systems and defensive systems and guys blocking shots. What creates the buzz in a building are great scoring chances, whether it’s a goal or a save. If chances are generated at a high rate, that’s what’s going to make hockey exciting. Hence the 3-on-3. It’s so wide open. There are so many scoring chances. People love that, right?

SCHNEIDER: It could be ebbing and flowing. Kids like Connor McDavid and Auston Matthews, Team North America from the World Cup, you saw how much speed they had. The Penguins play with a ton of speed, and the Capitals, and they score goals. As long as the league is heading in that direction, it’s going to be harder for goalies to be less athletic or just sit there and let pucks hit them.

FUHR: Goalies are better athletes, there are more good goalies now, but I don’t think it hurts the game. If anything, the defensive systems hurt the game more than the goalies do. If a goalie has a bad night, you can still score a lot of goals.

Is shrinking equipment the best way to increase scoring?

HASEK: I have to say it’s a good idea. Any time the goalies say that, I know the other goalies will hate me (laughs)! That's normal. But you have to be very careful, because you have to be sure the goalies are protected very well, which they are today.

SCHNEIDER: I don’t think it’s going to be as great as everyone says. We made all the gear smaller after the lockout. We shrunk the pads a couple years ago. I agree with the sentiment that there are guys who look much, much larger than they are in person and that they’re only using the gear for blocking and not for protection. I’m all for protecting the guys and making sure they don’t get hurt, but I also don’t think you should abuse it and take up space in the net. It might have an impact on some guys, but the league’s becoming more athletic. Guys are becoming bigger and can move around like they’re 5-foot-10 when they’re 6-foot-5.

HIRSCH: It will have an impact on scoring, but for me it’s not about the scoring, it’s about having the athletic goalie and the best athletes. You’re putting back some excitement in the game. You’ll have rebounds and you’ll have athletic goaltending where they’ll have to play a little different to make saves.

BRODEUR: I don’t think it’s fair for me to talk about it that much, because I was never a guy who was blamed for cheating and I never wanted to expose anyone either. My thing is, if everybody’s in the same boat, if the playing field is equal for everyone, it shouldn’t matter what kind of equipment you wear.

HASEK: There is a cheater on the catching glove. If you ask any goalie, he loves it. I love it. But if you cut it for everyone, it would make a difference. I don’t know if you can cut one inch of pad. I don’t know. There is not too much room for cutting anymore, as you have to be protected well because of things like one timers.

SCHNEIDER: I would much rather shrink the equipment before I changed the nets. Making bigger nets would be a last resort. I’d even say after the equipment I would change some of the rules in the game. Guys can’t leave their feet to block shots, change the neutral zone rules, something to opening up the game and create more scoring chances – before bigger nets. Maybe I’m just an historian and enjoy the classic part of the game, but it would be like making them bigger in basketball. Part of it just feels wrong. But if goalies keep getting bigger and in 10 years the average goalie is 6-foot-5…they didn’t design the nets for 6-foot-5 goalies. They designed them for guys who are 5-foot-8, 5-foot-9, 5-foot-10, and maybe that’s just evolution.

HIRSCH: I’m wondering what it would be like if you have a zone in front of the net where you’re only allowed there for a few seconds in defensive mode, like the illegal defense rule in basketball.

SCHNEIDER: Would the league like more scoring? Of course. But I also think the style of play is just as important. If you have an up-and-down-the-ice game that’s a 3-2 game, that’s fantastic, as opposed to 20 shots, everything’s getting blocked, there’s no room in the neutral zone. A 3-2 game that way is not nearly as exciting.

FUHR: I’d put the weight back in the equipment. Heavy equipment makes it harder to move. Harder to move, smaller equipment. It shrinks by itself. That’s why we wore it smaller. It was heavy. You didn’t want to wear it big.

KORN: We can manipulate the rules. I’m a big believer that, short of picking the puck up and throwing it in, there are a lot more ways to score goals than are currently allowed. Alex Ovechkin scored a goal in World Cup. He used his glove, he punched it in, it didn’t it his stick like he hoped it would. Why isn’t that a goal? Why isn’t the goal that Andrew Shaw headbutted in a few years ago a goal? Why can’t you kick the puck in the net? Why can’t you hand-pass the puck anywhere on the ice? I think these more than changing goalie equipment will enhance goal scoring that they’re looking for.

What’s the most difficult skill for any goalie to master?

HASEK: You have to have talent, you have to have very good reactions, you have to be a very good skater. Good flexibility is helpful. And you cannot give up. It’s most important. You have to be a leader, because the team is behind you. You’re the last on the team who gives up. The team depends on you.

FUHR: To get to the NHL, once you’re at that level you’ve got all the physical skills. To stay there and be good, it’s the mental side. You know you get to make a difference every day, good or bad. When things aren’t going well, it’s easy to lose your confidence, and it’s hard to get it back. So I think the hardest thing to master is yourself, just in your own mind.

SCHNEIDER: The hardest part is reading the play. It’s tough, because the only way you get better at it is by playing more. But you only play if you’re good enough to play. So it’s important for guys to get the reps, at the minor league level, in college, in junior, ECHL, the AHL.

BRODEUR: I think being consistent. You can do as many reps as you want, but to be able to play at a level and keep that level for 60 minutes a game, some people have a hard time doing that or have a hard time doing it playing three games in four nights.

HIRSCH: It’s probably the art of waiting for the play to develop. You really have no choice but to wait for a shooter to shoot it, because if you move too soon, you expose the net. The best guys have the ability to make the shooter panic first. Carey Price. Marty Brodeur. They don’t move. They wait out the shooter.

LUONGO: The mental side. That’s the most important thing. You need to be sharp as far as being confident and knowing what you need to do on any given night. But as soon as a little bit of doubt creeps in your mind, it’s weird how bad things start to happen. The thing I’ve tried to master my whole career, and it’s practically impossible but you do work on it, is the mental side and being able to go out there and be at the top of your game every night.

KORN: The easiest skill for me as a coach to help the goalie with are physical skills. The efficiencies, the way they contort their body, the way they get tight. Mental skills are harder, like tracking the puck off the stick and recognizing patterns in plays, because you can only really do that after the fact. You need video after the game often to do that.

BRODEUR: When you play a lot, the bad things that happen are just little checkmarks, and you move on. It’s how good you’re able to bounce back. And that’s how you become consistent. That’s the challenge for every single goalie. Your performance matters, but you need to be bigger than your performance. That’s what makes you a goalie who every night people will have the same feeling about your game. It’s not going to be a good game, a bad game, an OK game. You’re just going to be consistent every time you go in. Your reaction to plays will be consistent. And that really helps you in the playoffs. It’s an extra step. Everything is overanalyzed.

KORN: And maybe the hardest skills to possess or manage are the emotional skills, being able to bounce back after a bad game or bad goal, and being able to control your mind, your emotions, your self talk, your highs and lows during a game. Because you’re all by yourself. You’re out there all by yourself. The puck’s at the other end of the ice. And I can’t help them! Unless they tell me what’s going through their minds or what they’re thinking or whether their heart rate goes up or down…I will never know. And I can’t practice 18,000 people in a building in a 2-1 game with 30 seconds left! That’s where body of work comes in. And you have to experience it to experience it. You can’t practice it. You can prepare all you want, but until you’re in that element you can’t replicate it.

Are goalies always the weirdest guy on the team? Or is that a myth?

BRODEUR: It’s true. I’ve played with guys where I was amazed. I’m not one of them – I think anyway – but more and more you see players have these different things you do, and you’re shaking your head. I tried to minimize it. There’s so much going on your hockey career that less is more sometimes. I’ve seen guys and thought, ‘Why are they going through this?” but it becomes natural to them, and they feel more prepared because of it.

KORN: I coached a goalie that had lucky sticks. And when he broke his last lucky stick, it went to hell in a handbasket.

SCHNEIDER: It’s like a baseball pitcher. You have to do whatever you need to to get into a mental state where you’re going to play well. That lends itself to some weird habits and traditions and superstitions. It’s inherent with the position that you have to be a little bit different than everyone else.

LUONGO: One guy I played with, he wouldn’t lift his mask up during the game, so he’d always have to keep it down. And one time, he was eating a power bar during a TV timeout, and he wouldn’t lift his mask up, and he was feeding it through his grill, but he couldn’t reach his mouth because it was too far away (laughs).

BRODEUR: I had backups who would play five games a year, and they wouldn’t talk to anyone the day they played. Like, seriously? Enjoy that day you’re playing at least! (laughs). But I always respected that regardless of who they were on my team. Everybody needs to do their own things to be 100 percent ready when they play.

Do or did you have any quirks or superstitions of your own?

HIRSCH: My second NHL game was in Los Angeles. Guys barely know me. I’m a kid from junior and came up from the minors. I’m playing Gretzky and all them. First period goes by, and I don’t get scored on. Second period they score three goals on me. Then I’m like, “OK.” What I used to do is a complete mental reset. So I would get completely undressed, naked, right down to nothing. I’ve got all these guys, NHL players that don’t even know me, watching this 20-year-old kid get completely undressed after the second period and then redressed again in 15 minutes. I didn’t get scored on in the third, and we won 8-3.

HASEK: Patrick Roy, he always had to jump over the lines on the ice. I always before the game had one way I made the ice in front of me in the crease. From one side and from post to post. I think it was four times from side to side.

MCLENNAN: There were a lot of things I would do. It had nothing to do with “I was a crazy goalie.” It was, “Hey, I’ve got to keep my mind in it. If not I’ll be looking in the stands for a cute girl or to see if my parents are there.” It’s easy to get distracted. I’d have these routines that would keep my dialled in to the game. I’ve thought about it long after my career. I knew what I was as a player, but you always wanted to be better, and you look back and wonder if sometimes your mental makeup got in the way of some of your skill.

FUHR: I tried to keep it as normal as possible. The game’s hard enough with enough different variables without having to worry about whether you put one pad on one way or another, so you’re just adding another element to things, like having to be asleep at a certain time and such. With all the travel and stuff, things don’t work normally.

What’s something you see in young goalies today that grinds your gears?

BRODEUR: I’ve got one playing in junior, and I hate to watch what he does. Everybody does it! (haha). When goalies go on their knees, I know it’s a fast move, but for them to shuffle on their knees to go everywhere on the ice and not use their ability of skating, I don’t like it. I see goalies get themselves into position, and the guy takes a shot, it goes wide, he goes down in the butterfly, the puck hits the corner, wraps around to the hash marks on the side boards… that goalie went down, pushed to his post, and the puck is not even there, and pushed themselves back instead of just getting up and going straight to where the puck is supposed to be. A lot of goalies do that, and that bothers me. You guys are wasting way too much energy. I must’ve been lazy when I played, because I didn’t want to move too much out there! (laughs)

FUHR: You see everybody going down on every shot. I haven’t figured that one out yet. You can always butterfly, but at the same time, the easiest way to make a save is on your feet. I was always taught you get up so you get the second and third shot. You don’t stay down.

KORN: What drives me crazy is goalies sliding all over the place when they can actually stay on their feet and skate to where they need to go. There’s nothing wrong with sliding at the right time. But overusing any move, using any move at the wrong time because they see it on TV, that drives me crazy.

HIRSCH: They’re overcoached, a lot of young goalies. It’s being careful more where you get your information from. Everyone and their dog right now is out there as a goalie coach. Everybody loves goalies and appreciates passion, but you better be getting the right information, or it’s expensive and you’re wasting your money on someone that’s giving you what they believe is right, but it’s not the right information.

LUONGO: It grinds my gears that they’re all good (laughs). It seems everybody can play goalie at a high level. It’s so hard. There’s very, very little difference between a starter and a backup nowadays.

KORN: For me the reverse is more of a big boy save. The smaller you are, the more vulnerable you are when you get into that position. I see it so many times used ineffectively, too early, too often. When the puck’s on the wall, there’s no reason to be in reverse, when the pucks 45 or 50 feet away from you. I think that’s worse than the dropping or sliding.

MCLENNAN: Not at the NHL level, as it’s been weeded out, but there are too many “hockey school goalies” out there. Technically they look amazing in practice. But how does it translate to a game when you’ve got traffic, you’ve got people banging into you, little things like… playing in Detroit, I knew the boards ere lively. There are factors you can’t teach in a hockey school. That's what drives me nuts, when you see a goaltender from a structural standpoint has all the tools but can’t put it together. He doesn’t have the ability to adjust. Sometimes a tip at the last second, a read, maybe a defenseman comes across your sightline. There are so many things that factor into making a save or not making a save. It drives me nuts when I see guys who allow a goal, and I think it’s avoidable by tracking the puck, like watching it into your glove, or having the presence of mind to know what the options are, instead of “ugh, I’m gonna go down and be big and try to get hit by it. That’s something that frustrates a lot of former goalies.

Cory Schneider and Martin Brodeur.Author: Getty Images

The butterfly reached peak popularity with Patrick Roy in the 1980s and 1990s. Are we transitioning away from that style?

LUONGO: I don’t think so. Butterfly is always going to be the most effective way to stop the puck. But you’re also seeing different techniques as far as where the puck is on the ice. When the puck’s behind the net or at a bad angle, sometimes the butterfly’s not the most effective way to be. But in a straight-on shooting situation, the best and most efficient way to stop the puck is the butterfly.

SCHNEIDER: The game’s becoming so fast and high-paced that you can’t just rely on the butterfly. You have to hold your feet longer than you may have before. As the game opens up more, you have to able to move. You can’t just stay on your knees and slide around. I try to play a bit of a hybrid. I’m predominantly butterfly, but I do try to maintain my feet and not commit too early.

FUHR: The game’s turning more toward the hybrid. Once you take eliminate hooking, holding, goalies have to move and be able to be athletic again.

HIRSCH: When Jonathan Quick won those Stanley Cups, we saw a bit of a change to the crab-like goalie. Flexible. I see a bit of that. That’s a special skill. I would have a tough time coaching a guy like Quick, because that’s not what I teach. Billy Ranford’s done a really good job there. We’re seeing more of that, which is great, because to me it’s athleticism.

BRODEUR: The athleticism of goalies is getting back in the game. Technique is very important, but you have to read the plays. You can’t just be blocking shots all the time. You have to be more in control. Especially with a quick game, there’s a lot going on, there are a lot of desperate saves to be made, and the only thing to do is just react and play hockey, not just block shots. You see it in Price. He’s a really quiet goalie, but when it’s really time for him to be desperate. Holtby, Luongo, a lot of guys have a lot of success doing that.

KORN: I’ve got a saying: the butterfly is a save, not a style. Because playing goal is way more than that. And so we’ve been transitioning away from that. When you think of all the goalies who came out of the lockout in 2004-04 and did not fare very well, the transition began then. Remember how we talked about ‘The New NHL’? Well I’ll tell you what: it’s a new NHL every day. It gets faster every day. The players get better every day. The game changes every day.

Who’s the best goalie in the NHL today and why?

BRODEUR: Carey Price. His success internationally, the way he carried his team the first part of the year before last. We got to play him in Montreal, and we outchanced them four to one and we were not even in the game just because of him. I just feel right now, when he’s not hurt or sick, he’s the best. He really impresses me. And I’ve watched a lot just because I’m from Montreal and a lot of people are always talking about him. All my buddies and stuff.

MCLENNAN: Carey Price. I don’t hesitate on that one.

SCHNEIDER: Carey Price gets a lot of that recognition, which he should. The year he had, and the World Cup. I think he’s the pinnacle of technique combined with athleticism and improvisation. A lot of guys set him as the gold standard.

FUHR: I put it a tie between Carey Price and Henrik Lundqvist. They’re different styles. Henrik’s more of your traditional butterfly goalie, and Carey’s more of your hybrid goalie, but both guys seem able to make that big save for that team when you need it.

HIRSCH: Easily Carey Price. The best goalies in the world have a certain demeanor, where they just don’t give a shit. They care, but nothing fazes them. And Marty and was the same way. They’ve got a different level of competitiveness and anxiety. Most of us who are super competitive have a certain anxiety level. Like I couldn’t sleep after a bad game. It would bug me for days. Whereas those guys are like, “Meh.”

LUONGO: Carey Price, because he’s got the most talent, and when you have a good technique and you have the most talent, it’s a tough combination to beat.

SCHNEIDER: A rival of mine Henrik Lundqvist, I always appreciate a guy who year in and year out just churns a way. For a decade or more he’s been one of the best goalies in the NHL, and I have a lot of appreciation for that longevity and how much he works at his craft.

You have to win a Game 7 and can start any goalie who ever lived. You can’t pick yourself. Go.

BRODEUR: I would go with Patrick. What I’m looking for in goalies is being consistent. Patrick Roy is going to play how many good games and no bad goals. Not spectacular, as much as a guy like Dominik Hasek who can steal you a game at any time. For me, Patrick is just more of a guy I look up to, not in the way he played but in how consistent he was. Never had a bad year. That’s what I wanted to achieve. Play a lot, being durable and being consistent every single year. It was a goal of mine to always be in the top five in wins. Goals-against average, I didn’t really care, and save percentage, I couldn’t control that because of where I played. And Patrick, if you look throughout his career, he was always there. That’s why I would pick him.

SCHNEIDER: I have to go with my guy in Jersey, Marty. Won three Cups. Won the Olympics. Having played with him, just seeing how cool and calm he is, it doesn’t matter if it’s Game 7 of the Stanley Cup or Game 1 of the regular season. He has the same demeanor and same conviction and confidence. He was a big-game goalie. He loves that spotlight and situation.

HASEK: I’ll go with Patrick Roy. He won more Stanley Cups. Patrick Roy in his prime time.

MCLENNAN: Give me Grant Fuhr. I’m unbelievably biased because I grew up watching him and played with him in St. Louis. Even in my book I talk about how he said against Phoenix one night, “Guys, just get me one goal tonight and I’ll be good.” And we won 1-0. It was a Game 7 in the playoffs. I know the term “money goaltender” or “clutch” has been challenged, but Fuhrsy was clutch (laughs).

LUONGO: Patrick, because he was so competitive. You could tell his intensity level was always higher than everybody else’s.

FUHR: I would have to go with Terry Sawchuk. Growing up watching, he seemed to be ‘The Guy’ at that time.

Who’s the scariest player you ever had to face?

HASEK: Mario Lemieux. Even though were numbers not the best against me, he was the player I was most afraid of. I remember when we played against Mario, I said to my defense, “Everywhere he goes, be sure you know where he is. Even if he’s behind the net, get to him” (laughs).

HIRSCH: Mario. Easily. He was big, he was strong, he had a reach. He could do all of it. It was ridiculous. People ask me, “Gretzky or Mario?” And no disrespect to Gretzky, but I caught Gretzky at the end of his career. I caught Mario in his prime, and I’d never seen anything like that, ever.

BRODEUR: It’s too bad, because I didn’t play in the prime of Gretzky and Lemieux, but for me it was Jaromir Jagr. I’ve played so much against him with Pittsburgh or the Rangers, and for me he was the best.

FUHR: Al MacInnis. He had the shot that (1) was hard, (2) was heavy. So it seemed to find ways to roll off you into the net.

MCLENNAN: Al MacInnis was ridiculous. You know who had a bomb, who was scary? Al Iafrate. He had a touch of recklessness to him. Another guy who terrified me all the time was Joe Sakic because of his release. You couldn’t read it off his stick. He would beat you before you were set.

SCHNEIDER: Guys with those elite releases, the Vladimir Tarasenkos, the Ovechkins, they mask the puck well but get a lot on it.

LUONGO: A guy like Ovechkin always comes to mind, because he likes to shoot the puck a lot and he has a hard shot and quick release and places it well. When you play a guy like that, you always have to pay extra attention to him, because he’s dangerous and they’re gonna try to give him the puck and he can score from anywhere on the ice.