Comments on: Scientific research in a foresthttp://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/scientific-research-in-a-fores.html
Brain candy for Happy MutantsMon, 15 Sep 2014 23:11:17 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.2By: Nick Bonzeyhttp://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/scientific-research-in-a-fores.html#comment-1429514
Tue, 22 May 2012 00:44:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=161944#comment-1429514There are hundreds of research forests in the US. Many are associated with the Land Grant universities (which, if you parse the name, should give you an indication of their original purpose – Give the institutions land in which they can perform research), and there are many private-public partnership research forests associated with large forestry companies and universities, trying to improve tree genetics, harvesting techniques, understand ecological connections. The NEON (National Ecological Observatory Network) and LTER (Long-Term Ecological Research) networks are a huge governmental/university research push towards understanding some of the trickier questions in ecology. Many of these research plots are right under your noses, but not well advertised as to avoid some of the random vandalism (or misguided “ecowarrior” vandalism) that plagues research.
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Mon, 21 May 2012 17:31:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=161944#comment-1429139I am having trouble parsing this portion: “By 1830, less than 90% of this part of Massachusetts had any forest left. But that trend had already begun to reverse itself by 1850, spurred by urbanization and cheaper, more-efficient farming in the “West” (i.e., Ohio).” Could I read that as, “By 1830, 89% of this part of Massachusetts had forest left”?

I think you mean, “By 1830, this part of Massachusetts was more than 90% deforested.” Which sounds right, and works better with “reverse itself,” in the next sentence.

I grew up in Massachusetts, out in the sticks (Spencer, MA, holla–no, actually, please don’t). We would play in the woods endlessly and every so often you would just cross some stone wall in the middle of nowhere. Farmers really hated those stones.

]]>By: Heteromeleshttp://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/scientific-research-in-a-fores.html#comment-1429038
Mon, 21 May 2012 15:17:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=161944#comment-1429038Personally, I think helping the public understand that not all flagging is incipient vandalism or development is a great thing.

I know that in forests where I’ve worked, scientific labels stay up for a very short time, because other people who use the forests vandalize the tags as quickly as they see them. I don’t know whether they’re following in the spirit of Edward Abbey’s Desert Solitaire (take up the stakes to stop development), protesting against science in general, or just see the things as eyesores, but there are a number of places where scientific research is difficult to impossible, due to the public reaction to any labels at all.

]]>By: Kevin Liskehttp://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/scientific-research-in-a-fores.html#comment-1428961
Mon, 21 May 2012 13:28:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=161944#comment-1428961Ah, the study of Cultural Geography at it’s finest! Trying to understand the what, how, and why of human interaction with the landscape and the results is such a fascinating topic for me.
]]>By: Maggie Koerth-Bakerhttp://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/scientific-research-in-a-fores.html#comment-1428950
Mon, 21 May 2012 12:33:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=161944#comment-1428950They make the claim not on length of time, but on the broad and deep extent of what’s been studied in this forest.
]]>By: Jeff Ollertonhttp://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/scientific-research-in-a-fores.html#comment-1428946
Mon, 21 May 2012 12:24:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=161944#comment-1428946interesting, though I dispute that it’s the most studied forest in the world. What criteria are you using to make that claim? There are many other woodlands that have been studied for longer, for example Wytham Woods in Oxfordshire.
]]>By: Jody Ouradnikhttp://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/scientific-research-in-a-fores.html#comment-1428945
Mon, 21 May 2012 12:22:00 +0000http://boingboing.net/?p=161944#comment-1428945When we were living in Heidelberg, Germany we were curious about the fact that the trees in the urban forest near our apartment had numbers on them. We would also come across man-hole covers in the oddest places in the woods. Aside from those quirky things, when you were in the woods you felt like you were deep in the wilderness.

We found out later that much of the steam-heat system for our part of town ran through pipes under the forest floor, and that the trees were all cataloged, so that the small amount of logging that was allowed could be very carefully managed. I was so impressed and gratified to have those beautiful woods so close to our densely populated neighborhood. I didn’t realize that we had a research forest in the U.S.!