Games are moving on, discussions aren't! You never said if you thought Colin McRae 2 was the pinnacle of the genre or not, in which case the only thing that can improve is the graphics. I'm not a fan of racing games in general, but I understand that fans of the genre want their games to look as realistic as possible. Sure in the past they had to be content with the racing game experience, it's only now consoles are starting to have the graphical fidelity to match.