June 24, 2010

In a bizarre statement to police, the Oregon woman who claims that Al Gore fondled and groped her during a massage session described the former Vice President as a giggling "crazed sex poodle" who gave a "come hither" look before pouncing on her in a Portland hotel suite. In a taped January 2009 interview with cops, the 54-year-old woman, a licensed masseuse... detailed her alleged October 2006 encounter with Gore at the Hotel Lucia.... It is unclear why, two years later, she approached Portland police and sought to memorialize her allegations against Gore, who she portrayed as a tipsy, handsy predator who forced her to drink Grand Marnier, pinned her to a bed, and forcibly French kissed her. The woman's statement--which could be mistaken for R-rated Vice Presidential fan fiction--describes Gore as a man with a "violent temper as well as extremely dictatorial commanding attitude besides his Mr. Smiley Global Warming concern persona." After fleeing Gore's suite, the woman returned home to discover, a la Lewinsky, "stains on the front of my black slacks." Suspecting that the stains were Gore bodily fluids, the woman made sure not to clean them.

272 comments:

I gotta tell you--I am no big fan of al gore; but this has all the makings of tabloid trash--Ok--so al may have wanted a hummer. The woman in question apparently is a sex industry person. Given what is going on the world today, this shit should be relegated to the trash can. unfortunately this will devolve into a partisan issue, that is totally irrelevant to the condition this country finds itself in.

Why do you fuel this particular fire, Professor, when we have a lot of major issues with which to deal.

Last post: Our national security strategy re afghanistan has been set back nearly a year; the democrats are not going to pass a budget (one suspects because they dont want to reveal how much red ink is flowing before the midterms), the gulf of mexico is a disaster, we are speculating if al gore is a sex poodle.

Once you have read over the transcript of her interview with the police, you will no longer have a superficial opinion that she is a sex industry person (or trailer trash as Bill Clinton's spin masters called his victims).

trad guy--you are correct, I havent chosed to wallow in this particular scandal and I do apologize for my uninformed speculation. There are simply more importantthings going on the world today. So mea culpa for my use of the term sex worker.

Me? I'm able both to be outraged/concerned/appalled/engaged/fill-in-the-blank about the state of the world and all the "more important things" we should be dealing with, and to point and laugh at this amusing story.

This is such quintessential Althouse-Bait. There is almost zero chance Ann couldn't write about this. It definitely meets the first criteria, it's a Democrat, and it's about sex. Never seemed interested in the slightest in Republican sex scandals, that Ann.

" Why do you fuel this particular fire, Professor, when we have a lot of major issues with which to deal."

Because Gore and his wife are sanctimonious, national-level scolds who set themselves up as arbiters of how Americans should conduct their lives. For those of us who are sick and tired of leftist rhetoric, a little schadenfreude at the Gores' expense is a welcome relief.

Note the dismay by some in this thread that this story is even being acknowledged or covered. Oh, for the good old days, before the pesky internet, when it was so much easier for democrat transgressions to be ignored, minimized, or swept under the rug!

Just because the woman is 54 doesn't necessarily mean that she is a legitimate masseuse. The police in my area are constantly busting Asian massage parlors, presumably because the parlors aren't paying enough bribes, and according to the newspaper accounts the women are often startlingly old - frequently over 50, sometimes over 60.

Just because the woman is 54 doesn't necessarily mean that she is a legitimate masseuse. The police in my area are constantly busting Asian massage parlors, presumably because the parlors aren't paying enough bribes, and according to the newspaper accounts the women are often startlingly old - frequently over 50, sometimes over 60.

Here’s my theory…IF she was “Hand Job Hannah” with an arrest record for Solicitation, I think that Drudge and the Enquirer, much less AlGore himself would have been the first to bring this up….after all If she was a Professional Sex Worker, that too, is a scandal, from the Drudge/Enquirer PoV…”Former Veep Uses ‘Ho’s’”

After all it’s INCONCEIVABLE that a US politician would have an intern perform sexual acts with a cee-gar in the Oval Office, or that a sitting Governor would run off to Argentina for a tryst with his new-found “Soulmate” or that a sitting Senator would be arrested in a men’s room for soliciting sex from another man, or that a Veep Candidate and POTUS candidate would be having an affair whilst running and his wife was dying of cancer. So yes, this must a lie, because NOTHING like this could ever happen…..OH WAIT.

You are right to compare the stain thing to Lewinsky. I would be very shocked if that didn’t run through the woman’s mind, too. I mean look she either made it up or she didn’t. And either way, you probably had her noticing, or creating, the parallel.

It think this all makes Gore officially every bit as bad as Clinton.

And maybe that means the next shoe to drop is a test on the stain.

Roger

> The woman in question apparently is a sex industry person.

I see you apologized. I would suggest you actually delete it.

Garage

> Never seemed interested in the slightest in Republican sex scandals, that Ann.

Its not a sex scandal, a--hole. Its sexual assault or it’s a lie. Those are the only two options.

Its not a sex scandal, a--hole. Its sexual assault or it’s a lie. Those are the only two options.

In the immortal words of a fmaous, Democrat, "The b*tch set me up!"

AlGore needs to get in front of this, I say he hires Jim Carville right now...."Drag a hundred-dollar bill through a trailer park, you never know what you'll find." or in this case, "Drag a $540 dollar bill thru a Massage Parlor an' you neve-ah know what y'all find."

This is such quintessential Althouse-Bait. There is almost zero chance Ann couldn't write about this. It definitely meets the first criteria, it's a Democrat, and it's about sex. Never seemed interested in the slightest in Republican sex scandals, that Ann.

If true, it's shocking that Gore, with all his money, couldn't find someone younger and hotter to try to get freaky with. That masseuse was definitely past her "best by" date. And that's an inconvenient truth.

This is such quintessential Althouse-Bait. There is almost zero chance Ann couldn't write about this. It definitely meets the first criteria, it's a Democrat, and it's about sex. Never seemed interested in the slightest in Republican sex scandals, that Ann.

A surprisingly large number of women are attracted to rich, powerful, men, almost regardless of their physical attributes. They are, to some extent, wired that way, just as we, males, are wired to be attracted to beautiful sexy women.

AlGore (aka ManBearPig) is both rich and powerful. Former VP and Presidential candidate. Nobel Prize winner. And supposedly, at least until his divorce, a centi-millionaire. And if AGW hadn't crashed over the last year or so, he would have been (supposedly) on the way to being a billionaire.

I would guess that if there is any fire here, with all the smoke, that his problem is that other women have succumbed to his charms, whatever they are, and likely more than once. Something along the way that his mentor, Mr. Clinton, got in trouble with Paula Jones and Juanita Broaddrick. My theory is that sex with misc. women was so easy for him to obtain, that he just assumed that all women were available. And, of course, many aren't.

It will be interesting to see how this all unfolds. If one were a conspiracy theorists, one might wonder about the timing of this scandal, just as Kerry's Tax and Bribe (aka Cap and Trade) bill is again being pushed. How better to take some wind out of its sails than by tarnishing the reputation of Saint AlGore.

A surprisingly large number of women are attracted to rich, powerful, men, almost regardless of their physical attributes. They are, to some extent, wired that way, just as we, males, are wired to be attracted to beautiful sexy women.

Bruce wins the cookie. You just can't undo evolution folks. There was a time when females would simply go with the biggest and strongest male because he provided security, physicaly and by bringing home the mammoth meals. In turn we see beauty and sexiness as a symbol of youth and youth means fertility and the continuation of the species and family lineage.

Now in modern times security is more in line with financial security over physical strength which is why a 80 year old guy who can't lift a garbage can but has a 6 figure salary can score a hot young babe and still knock her up.

As of today, we only have five years and seven months left to stop Global Warming*, obviously enough of us won't be switching to cloth bags fast enough to save the planet, so I don't blame Al (if it's true) to get "it" when he can.

Well it certainly just took a nose dive that’s for sure…don’t you have cigarettes to get for your Mother or something? Or just hanging out in your room, waiting for your “uncle” to pay your mom some “grocery money he owed her” and leave the house and you can leave your room?

Methinks your memory is a wee bit selective garage or you just can't handle it when your idols are picked on.

Believe it or not, me, and I would guess most liberals, manage to get through a whole day without even thinking about Al Gore one time. I would go even further saying most liberals don't even consider Al Gore their "idol". And the fat jokes don't really hit home either. Weird huh?

I do notice that conservatives have this weird laser focused fixation on liberals who they think might be smarter than them because they own an opinion, like an environmentalist who simply says something like we need to start conserving - that this, THIS! is the worst fucking insult they're ever heard in their life. Meanwhile in small government-get-out-of-our-lives conservadom in Texas, Republicans are trying to pass a law outlawing blow jobs and anal sex, and impose jail sentences to anyone who issues a same sex couple a marriage license. It's not what a person is saying, just who is saying it. Just doesn't seem like conservatives ever mind being told precisely how to live their lives by another conservative.

Just as Willie sought Jesse Jackson's counsel, so The Living Redwood seeks Willie's.

Ah, the circle of life.

rhhardin said...

Groping and fondling are verbs for different body parts, I'd guess.

In nautical terms, the difference between fore and aft. Scott said...

" Why do you fuel this particular fire, Professor, when we have a lot of major issues with which to deal."

Because Gore and his wife are sanctimonious, national-level scolds who set themselves up as arbiters of how Americans should conduct their lives. For those of us who are sick and tired of leftist rhetoric, a little schadenfreude at the Gores' expense is a welcome relief.

We don't know who is telling the truth right now, and as a result, Gore is innocent by default. but you apparently don't want us to discuss it or even investigate.

As for why it took so long to report it, well, gee, have you looked at how the democrats have treated people reporting on their scandals? monica lewinksy was just an obsessed presidential fan until they tested the dress. Then Gore's boss had to admit she was telling the truth. they're all liars, until the dna test comes back, i suppose.

I mean my God, Edward Kennedy caused a woman to die. There was a chance she might have been saved if he just informed authorities. He didn't. Any respectable party that supposedly cared about women would have run him out of the party. instead he was only removed from the senate feet first--i.e. upon his death.

Apparently Garage thinks that ManBearPig = an environmentalist who simply says something like we need to start conserving

LOL! Thanks, GM. My Thursday was pretty boring so far and I had little or no interest in this story. I love thinking of Al Gore as just a simple environmentalist instead of the carbon-spewing, multi-mansion-owning, hypocrite that he really is.

Some might say that a man who can't remember day to day if he loves Pat Buchanan or hates him shouldn't try to keep tabs on other people's opinions. But you can't argue with his keen insight on THIS topic.

"like an environmentalist who simply says something like we need to start conserving - that this, THIS! is the worst fucking insult they're ever heard in their life."

The problem is that those environmentalists are usually just socialists that want other people controlled to act just like they would prefer. I think you would find that most conservative are at least as environmentally conscious in actual action as are most liberals including many who are simply hypocrites. I would bet that 99.9% of all conservatives live, like George Bush, far more environmentally conscious than Pelosi, Reid, Boxer, or Bill Clinton and Al Gore, the great environmental leaders and freestyle sperm donors.

While the masseuse hired a civil attorney, "I was not interested in making any money from this case," she told cops. "I did not want to be labeled a gold digger like the women in this situation are often labeled." The woman recently eased off this principled stand when she offered to sell her story to the National Enquirer for $1 million.

In the report, she is specifically referring to hush money. Money from The Enquirer is basically the exact opposite of hush money.

I have, of course, no idea if this happened, but you have to admit that it's entirely believable of most in the political class. That's despite the fact that most of us don't know people personally who do this kind of thing or what Clinton did in the Oval Office at work with an employee.

The people we elect are really the dregs of our society.

I was reminded of this yesterday by how the military men handled the mistakes they made with Rolling Stone magazine. They immediately admitted it, accepted blame, resigned or were dumped by their peers.

A politician caught in any scandal immediately denies, passes blame, deflects, attacks, and fights with the help of his peers who usually know he did it.

The difference is so stark. One group our best and brightest and the other our worst and least able. Yet the second is in charge. We need to fix this as a people. We can and it's our job to do so. If for no other reason, to respect the sacrifices of our best. Vote better people.

Just doesn't seem like conservatives ever mind being told precisely how to live their lives by another conservative.

Wrong in just about every way you've ever been wrong. Any attempt to use political elites and the force of law to impose something like, say, no alcohol sales on Sunday, is as far from conservative as you can get.

When religious teetotalers do things like this, they are no longer conservatives with small government as their guiding principle. They have crossed the line over to totalitarianism.

oh I get it. some just hate the Gores and Al in particular so much that they'll trot this stuff out, true or not, accurate or not, whatever, just to take a shot at someone.

I thought one comment where the Gores 'get what is coming to them' was particularly loathsum. Using this kind of trash as a "gotcha" weapon says a lot more about the person who uses it than the person on which it is aimed.

Yeah it gets hits on sites and Drudge sure needs to scrounge up every Jerry Springer wannabe with an Internet connection, but sometime this kind of crap should end...and Garage has it right....

The difference is so stark. One group our best and brightest and the other our worst and least able. Yet the second is in charge. We need to fix this as a people. We can and it's our job to do so. If for no other reason, to respect the sacrifices of our best. Vote better people.

Don’t wave that flag too hard Bag….one of the leading causes of relief of ship commander’s, at the O-5/6 level even, is “zipper control issues.” The best and brightest are busy trying to get their subordinates to help them “pull the trigger”, too….and this has included a few Generals, and the activity has been on-going, not one-time, and the the troop/troopette complained, but that third parties complained and ended the affair(s) and the careers.

I guess, though I love the military, it’s not exactly free of senior officers sleeping with the help AND expecting the help to put up with it….

I thought one comment where the Gores 'get what is coming to them' was particularly loathsum. Using this kind of trash as a "gotcha" weapon says a lot more about the person who uses it than the person on which it is aimed.

My I keep this quote for the next Palin thread, then HD? And it’s “loathsome”…….just thought you’d want to know.

> I thought one comment where the Gores 'get what is coming to them' was particularly loathsum

Who said that. i can't find your quoted words anywhere.

anyway, i find some people who say it is really detailed so i consider it credible. then you have people like me--no fans of al gore, yes, sniggering and making jokes, but also saying, "we just don't know, so for now gore is innocent." And then we have liberals whining that we have the temerity to even consider her story.

Oh and there are so much more important things. Like telling us how evil Sarah Palin is. but no, whether or not the former vice president is a criminal, as sex predator, or not, is important too. you are just frustrated that your idol is in danger of being fully torn down. or at least having a great mocking term attached to him--from manbearpig to crazed sex poodle.

i don't think the abuse of women by those in power is a small deal. its funny how much the supposed feminists want to throw real women under the bus.

To quote from the transcript: "This is what's been really hard with this. Urn, because I, I, you know, I live in 'The Birkenstock Tribe' and it's like being the ultimate traitor. And by the by, there are people urn, one who is so black and white Left wing, she ceased talking to me. Another one who was basically asking me to just suck it up, otherwise the world's going to be destroyed from global warming. And I was like, these are women. I'm like, where is the feminist in you? What the hell? This is not okay."

The behavior of supposed liberal feministes in this thread only verifies the credibility of that statement. it doesn't make it true, but it does make it plausible.

Hey garage, that was a nice comeback but how about you just admit you fucked up (as usual) when you accused Althouse of ignoring GOP sex scandals.

I never said she "ignored" them, I never said she didn't write about them, just that she doesn't seem very interested in them. Meaning, Republican sex scandals don't seem juicy or saucy to explore in depth.

The very first link Revenant provided started like this re: Sanford: "I hate seeing people publicly humiliated for the sexual things they do in private." I highly doubt it you would see that sort of defense when it's a Democrat. That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it. Read the Larry Craig tags, it's mostly pretty favorable. "Leave Larry Craig Alone", "Fight It Larry!"

I never said she "ignored" them, I never said she didn't write about them, just that she doesn't seem very interested in them. Meaning, Republican sex scandals don't seem juicy or saucy to explore in depth.

This little scandal is small tatters.I can't wait to see who he installs in the new manse by the sea he bought a few months before his separation. There is definitely a eco-friendly Malibu Barbie in the wings.

Let's look at a few D Senators and think about whether or not they would be deviate scumbags, sort of like the Senator in Godfather II.

It should be an immediate reaction like "yes, this guy is definitely a sleazy scumbag who abuses his interns and aides in perverted ways and has numerous personal afflictions like boozing and abusing drugs."

I think it's safe to say that each one of these people could potentially be a pervert on the order of Al Gore, and a drug and booze fiend on the order of Ted Kennedy. They could all end on a masseuse's table and pull out their little weeny and ask for some rubbin on their nubbin.

Lets compare and contrast the treatment Al Gore recives from the feminist bloggers like Feministing and Jezebell with the treatment the Duke Lacrosse players got. It ought to be very instructive.

John hits the nail on the Oscar. Just look at it this way. There is absolutely no proof whatsoever in this woman's claim (just like Duke). There is, however, a media-friendly narrative. In this case, it's a powerful, well-known former VP who, it just so happens, recently filed for divorce. In the Duke case, we've got the whole rich white kid/poor black woman dynamic.

Watching how the various players act in this affair will be, as John says, instructive. I'm wondering which faculty is going to take out a full-page ad on this one, though.

I don't understand the "Just move on" argument questioning how anyone can worry about such froth when we have wars, oil spills, cancer, etc etc about which to worry. The "Just move on" advocate is surely taking time away from the larger issues to read all the frothy responses and then wasting more precious pondering time telling the rest they need to raise their game. This is the first cousin to the argument often seen in the letters to the editor where the person who was ticketed for speeding wants to know why these cops are wasting time on traffic safety when there are murderers and rapists in the world to track down.So, Danielle, we will give you the two minute head start to solving all the world's problems but you should really Just Move On where Althouse commenters are concerned. Don't worry about us laughing at algore, spend your time helping Obama plug the damnned hole in the Gulf (he is in charge isn't he?)

"Maybe you are retarded. Did I say she never wrote a word about Larry Craig?"

By implication, yes. You said Althouse "Never seemed interested in the slightest in Republican sex scandals". Larry Craig was the biggest Republican sex scandal of the last five years. Do you even read your own posts?

Maybe Garage is right, but it's not AA's fault. Maybe she's got a news filter that only sends her stories of guys that think the earth's core is millions of degrees hot. It's probably right there on the same filter list that includes news only on guys that live in houses that consume 20x the national average for electricity. Or possibly next to the filter that only allows books with photoshopped typhoons.

It really is appalling the extent to which language has been twisted and distorted ("no proof"), not merely in this case, but in many cases the last several years where people try to argue that there is "no evidence" for this or that. And on a putative law site, it is especially disturbing.

Far from being "no proof," there is more than enough evidence here for a jury to convict Gore of sexual assault.

First, you have the proof of the woman's testimony. That is sufficient in and of itself.

Second, you have the proof of others verifying that Gore was at that hotel.

Third, you have the proof of others that Gore was in that hotel room.

Fourth, you have the proof of others that this woman was also in that room upon the request for a massage.

Fifth, you have the proof of others that she physically touched him by giving him a massage.

Sixth, you have the stained slacks, which allegedly contain Gore's DNA from a sexual act.

Seventh, you have the report that she made through her attorney in 2006.

And that is just scratching the surface.

It is hardly "no proof." And it is enough to put Gore to the obligation to rebut her allegations by giving a DNA sample.

traditionalguy said... Once you have read over the transcript of her interview with the police, you will no longer have a superficial opinion that she is a sex industry person (or trailer trash as Bill Clinton's spin masters called his victims).

At this point, the masseuse is just an anonymous accuser. Nothing is known about her background.

If you go by just police transcripts, I have a poor black mother of two to pitch to you. That was attending college that just started dancing a week earlier when she was savagely assaulted by white overprivileged Duke students.Unfortunately, it turns out Crystal Gayle Mangum was a low rent whore that had "pitched herself" hundreds of times, and was a lying psychotic in addition to all her other loathsome traits.

=======================A.W. - "and i would add, that if you rape a prostitute, ITS STILL RAPE. ditto with sexual assault."

Hardly. I know that it is feminist dogma that "rape is rape" and equal in gravity for all patriarchially oppressed women who engage in any form of unwilling, even slightly nonconsensual sex..but the reality is different.

DRug dealers are ripped off by other lowlifes all the time of their "wares", and so are whores.

If a whore is doing hummers for 5 guys lined up in a back alley for 50 a pop, and #4 doesn't pay and strongarms a non-consensual BJ...it isn't rape, IMO...it's robbery.

World of difference too between a married female store clerk raped at gunpoint and a female "raped" by unwilling sex in order to be more popular with the guys or a 17-year old eagerly giving a BJ to a 20-year old in California making the boy "guilty of rape".

Feminist nursery school chants of "rape is rape if the womyn says it is"...would best yield to a gradiation of appropriate level of offense to society similar to that which we mete out for other assaults.

Harry House: several days and numerous threads ago you promised to send me evidence of your science achievements--I referred you to my profile where my email address is clearly there. As of yet I havent heard from you. Why is that harry--you said they were in your attic

You know harry--like most of your vapid postings, you remain a pathetic liar--but if you, in fact send me what YOU promised, I will certainly acknowledge your contributions to science.

Go for it son. You have no credibility, and you might even be able to restore it!

The commenters on Jezzebell are all about reasonable doubt and plausibility of the women's story. They are being amazingly fair. That would be great if it wasn't the first time they had ever been so in a case involving a woman accusing a man of bad behavior.

By implication, yes. You said Althouse "Never seemed interested in the slightest in Republican sex scandals". Larry Craig was the biggest Republican sex scandal of the last five years. Do you even read your own posts?

So the fact that Ann posted about the Larry Craig scandal, [the biggest in 5 yrs] means she thought it was "interesting"? What did she post about it! That's my whole relatively benign point about it. I never got the feeling she thought it was "interesting", on the contrary, I got the feeling she was "disinterested".

Do you find Al Gore "interesting"? No? Then why did you post in this thread!

I wrote the original post in jest, in good fun. Jesus. If you don't believe what my intention was I really don't care to persuade you any further.

when the dust settles from this al gore thing, is not anyone interested that the democrats who control both houses of congress do not intend to pass a budget? Is no one concerned that it has taken Mr Obama a year to settle upon yet another general to pull his ass out of the afghanistan quagmire? Is no one concerned that the gulf coast is being trashed while petty fiefdoms figh over who can do what to whom--and the point of this discussion is about al gore and his relationship to a masseuse.

Its totally in there. page 26 in the pdf, marked as page 20 of her transcript. Copying from an OCR scan of the file:

“As I took off my clothing to go to the shower, I noticed some stains on the front of my black slacks. These were newer black slacks. It might have been the second time I wore them so They were dressy. Possibly I could have wore 'em on a date so I was trying to be (laugh) messed up. And urn, I took 'em off and I said what's those stains on the front of those? And I wondered if it was soap or bodily fluids from Gore pushing up against me repeatedly 'cause they were about here holding me down etc. with nothing on but his hotel issued terry robe with a belt to hold it closed. I carefully hung them up and decided to be sure not to launder them until I knew more what to do with what had happened.”

So its not clear if she even kept them in that state. She might have washed them for all we know.

But to be strictly fair to Gore, seven if they found some man juice of some kind, we need dna analysis to be sure its his. It would lend credibility to her story, but it wouldn’t prove it without his dna.

> If a whore is doing hummers for 5 guys lined up in a back alley for 50 a pop, and #4 doesn't pay and strongarms a non-consensual BJ...it isn't rape, IMO...it's robbery.

Lovely. But also wrong on the law.

The reason why a drug dealer can’t go after a buyer for failing to pay is you are enforcing an illegal contract. likewise, if the whore actually sued for the money owed. But if he actually forced her to have sex, and it was proven, it is rape. The problem in reality, is that whores are not exactly the most credible witnesses.

Which is all off topic anyway, but there you go.

> World of difference too between a married female store clerk raped at gunpoint and a female "raped" by unwilling sex in order to be more popular with the guys or a 17-year old eagerly giving a BJ to a 20-year old in California making the boy "guilty of rape".

Why do I think you are about to claim that therefore Polanski was innocent?

> Feminist nursery school chants of "rape is rape if the womyn says it is"...

No I wouldn’t say that. But if she says no, or otherwise withdraws consent, yep, its rape. Even if she is a slut or a whore.

> would best yield to a gradiation of appropriate level of offense to society similar to that which we mete out for other assaults.

Are you under the impression that the system doesn’t change the level of punishment according to the actual conduct proven. “Consensual” sex with an underage girl is treated differently than beating her bloody and forcing it in. if you don’t know that, why are you even bothering to shoot your mouth off?

k*thy, I think that if she is lying, she is more likely to have studied police reports than romance novels.

Yeah, I'm not actually getting where the romance novel thing comes in. Old, fat dude who talks about the environment alot comes into my masseuse parlor and assaults me isn't really the theme of anything I've seen at the store, at least it doesn't look like it from the covers :)

More on the leftist Bernie Ward, a champion of the left's attack on human values.

"Ward received the Scripps Howard Award for Excellence in Journalism for his investigative journalism in a ten-part series, Heaven Help Us, which explored allegations of financial and sexual misconduct of the Archdiocese of San Francisco."

Of course he did. And now his rear end is opened up like a Guatemalan sinkhole.

that's right. move on... moveon.org was founded on the idea that we should move on, from bill clinton. over 10 years later, they have kept the name, proving that the only people who haven't moved on, is them.

But hey, its all cyclical. now they can claim we need to move on from gore!

Hearing new clients and witnesses give their statements of events over 39 years in the business has trained my ear to distinguish truthful from deceptive statements. This statement seem to me to be very real. Of course a great actress can also do that. We need some extended cross examination on the details to know. But the odds are 9 out of 10that what she is saying is true. I am certain that she has been a trained masseuse, and I believe the police reports verified that she had been called to his room at that hotel as a masseuse that night.

This statement seem to me to be very real. Of course a great actress can also do that.

"Great actress"? You're reading a transcript. Anyone with access to police transcripts from real victims -- i.e., any American adult -- can produce a transcript that sounds just like it came from a real victim.

This is a person who was perfectly content to not tell this story until its dollar value was high enough. How many real victims does that sound like to you?

This is a person who was perfectly content to not tell this story until its dollar value was high enough. How many real victims does that sound like to you?

If the story is truthful, I think it's perfectly plausible that pressing the story before did not make sense by her cost/benefit analysis. It makes a lot more sense after those scales are tipped a bit.

Say the story is true. Why tell it before? So people can rip on you and call you a liar? So you can be ostracized from your friends? Any intelligent person would guess that the most likely scenario is that he gets out of it, having superior resources at his disposal.

Then someone comes along with a million dollars, and you get it for telling the truth. Suddenly getting ripped on and called a liar for telling the truth doesn't seem so bad.

She also mentions having been in therapy and going over this issue. Perhaps she didn't get over it as easily as she thought she would and is haunted that by ignoring it she's allowed it to happen to other people.

But I have read several pages, which is more than a whole bunch of those posting on Althouse appear to have.

Some of the comments here are EXACTLY why she did not want to make a big deal and file charges. There are snide (from experience?) references to whores (and some straight forward name calling) and sex workers.

Here ya go:

The state of Oregon licenses massage therapists.

This person is a licensed massage therapist, (presumedly by the state of Oregon as she reports she referred to the requirements of the state when introducing herself to Gore).

I have worked in 2 different health professions (one involving a lot of listening to some times stressed, sometimes crazy, sometimes sociopathic people) over the last 30 years. I also have a working knowledge (but am not one) of massage therapy. (The health/ medical kind, not the Heidi Fleiss kind.)

There is an authenticity in the way she related the incident.

I wonder how many people here questioning this woman questioned Anita Hill's story.

I would like to say that licensed massage therapists do a wonderful job and really can help you when you are in pain. I have used them on numerous occasions to help with my legs. They always ask if there are "problem" areas that require additional attention. I would always direct them to my legs.

"Crazed sex poodle" is such a great line, especially since it was delivered to the Great Man Himself. She also called him a "big lummox." Very retro.

The whole thing reads like a parody.

AlGore's life reads like a parody. Or a pulp novel.

What is next for AlGore?

Well, Tesla, in which he is a big investor, and which has a half a billion dollars in Federal Government guaranteed loans, is a good candidate for bankruptcy over the next 2-3 years. Their sole product is going to be a $90,000 electric "luxury" car with a 300 mile range between recharges.

This subject has inspired the greatest number of fabulous one-liners and sarcastic quips that I can recall on an Althouse discussion. I wish I could personally thank each and every poster that made me laugh today. Outstanding work! I can't pick a winner.