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Broda Michael - 1500km/900mi - Lome to Lagos
-I LOST EVERYTHING THAT NIGHT JUST BECAUSE OF YOU.

BJ - Lome to Abidjan to Yamoussoukro
Lome to Lagos - 2275km/1400mi

Misc :
Total : 17 000 Mugu Miles (27 000km)

x7 x2 x8

"MAY YOUR BLOOD BE SHARED AMONG DOGS AND WOOIS.
YOU FACKING SON OF THE DIVEL YOU ARE MORE STUPID." - Broda Michael

Mr Bigg's is dead! Long live Mr Bigg's!

Kabuto SamaMaster of Master Baiters

Joined: 28 Jun 2006
Posts: 577
Location: In Pula pe Bega

Posted:
Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:42 am

Just think about this... in several hundred years we burned the coal and oil accumulated in millions of years.
The oil is almost finished. There are large reserves of methane left. But think at the ecological price.
It's not worth it.
If we keep going on, there will be no more Vanuatu or Maldives or many other tropical reefs.
And I'll have to wear a bedouin attire and buy camels.

your father is a pig and your mother is a bicth.you are a bastad and you will die young.you shold ask your father where you bastad came from.South Africa is not for white.someday we will kill you all whites in africa and in south africa.up Zulu. -- the angry Zulu lad

you are a foolish Man that is why people like you dont achive good things in Life forget it if do not want to jelp this young Man
Asshole! - angry ghanaian "barrister"

_________________Fake sites killed 1 x 9 x 3 x 168 X - the 'Asparagus Kid' - Accra to Lome - You Must surly Die in The Name Of Jesus Christ
- Steve - Lagos to Accra
- Frank - Lagos to Cotonou - co-bait with the vampire
- Shorty - Lagos to Cotonou - My Agro Base farming where i rearing chicken and other animals was set ablazed overnight and we do not know who is actual behinde all these evils! -
I and my crew was locked up for 3 good days….They wanted to charge us to court but later we are fined an huge amount of money…I asked them why did they arrest the men, they started laughing and saying all sorts mockering words! -
…because now, am left with nothing and remember i told you my Guy (Joe) gave up earlier this morning

Craig007rude right wing fascist

Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 3124

Posted:
Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:39 am

Quote:

It is a surprise – a welcome one - that the BBC has put it as bluntly as they have. More often than not they (the BBC) put forward the brainwashing views of CO2-driven, man-made climate change.

Totally, 100% agree. Thanks Gomer. You've just made my day.

_________________CAN VISA BE GIVING IN THE PLANE? YOUR QUEEN ELIZABETH CAN NOT TAKE VISA IN THE PLANE,TALKLESS OF YOU - WILLIAM PAUL

So a weatherman for hire says it's all a hoax. Well, yeah, I guess that obliterates tens of thousands of scientific studies. Boy do I feel silly now!

As for the rest of the article. It's all about time scales. Just as the fact that there have been ice ages in the past doesn't mean that the change we are seeing now isn't caused by human activities, periods of cooling don't mean that the GLOBAL AVERAGE TEMPERATURE isn't increasing. Climate scientists know all about the PDO and other oscillations and cycles. Still, the world is warming at an unprecedentedly rapid pace.

Has anyone else noticed how those who accept that global warming is occurring cite extensive studies carried out over years and years in a multitude of scientific fields, while those who don't want to believe it cite whomever they can dig up whose willing to say it's wrong.

If you judged any of these skeptics by the standards Nick applies to the IPCC (there's an article saying not every scientist involved read every word therefore it's all lies!) you wouldn't believe a guy like Corbyn for a second. But, clearly, skeptics have only one standard by which they judge spokespeople on climate change: does s/he agree with me?

You might say those who accept the facts do the same, but they do not. Fortunately, the scientific process allows for the consideration of data and interpretations of data that are outside the current view. That's what fuels progress. Unfortunately, it's also what allows idiots like Corbyn to get press -- by taking honest debate and turning it into "see, this one fact might possibly imply something else therefore it's all a hoax!"

But I'll stop now. Clearly, you do not want facts or to evaluate the source of statements. You merely want what you believe to be true to be true and you will go on believing it despite any evidence to the contrary. Like Stephen Colbert might say, "you believe in a truth that goes beyond facts." And if someone isn't willing to evaluate evidence, judge facts, evaluate sources, and think about their position, then there's no point in presenting them with data. If you want to say that 2+2=5, no amount of information is going to get you to change your mind. Sad but true.

Craig007rude right wing fascist

Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 3124

Posted:
Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:20 am

REMOVED - I'VE NEARLY BROKEN MY PACT.

_________________CAN VISA BE GIVING IN THE PLANE? YOUR QUEEN ELIZABETH CAN NOT TAKE VISA IN THE PLANE,TALKLESS OF YOU - WILLIAM PAUL

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SlightlyoutofitBaiting Guru

Joined: 13 Feb 2007
Posts: 14310
Location: Foraging for Nuts.

Posted:
Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:58 am

I'm all for Global Warming.
We had a crappy summer here so a bit of sunshine won't go amiss.
And if Irish ends up sinking into the sea, tell me, who's gonna cry?

As for the actual topic of this thread? Who cares? You and I won't get a say in wether Africa gets any cash anyway. They're always asking for money and they get it or are refused it, regardless of what the public in the donating countries think. Unless you personally donate through individual charities you have no choice in the matter. And why worry about what you've no control over?
If it wasn't pollution, they'd have their hands out for another reason. It's just the way things are.
The bottom line is that it takes two to tango - sometimes the West screws up badly and has to pay a few bucks in compensation (and rightly so) and sometimes Africa tries it's luck trying to get cash from the richer parts of the world.
Swings and roundabouts.

_________________

God will see you true for all this you have done to me you bastard. - Collins Kalu
MAY THE HAND THAT TYPE ON KEYBORD BECOME STRICKEN AND TRANSMIT VIRUS TO YOU ENTIRE BODY. - Dr Linda Akeem
oh what a mess its time cabbage punks like u will be expose for trully what they are. - David Cole

It's logical and obvious that the most green thing you can do is not reproduce. With less people demanding less consumption, energy demand falls and there is less production that causes pollution.

This is not a popular reality for people, governments or business to face.

Facing reality is not just a problem for those who deny climate change but it's obvious that if people reduce demand for consumption, but just replace that with more people, you've got nowhere.

_________________Fake sites killed 1 x 9 x 3 x 168 X - the 'Asparagus Kid' - Accra to Lome - You Must surly Die in The Name Of Jesus Christ
- Steve - Lagos to Accra
- Frank - Lagos to Cotonou - co-bait with the vampire
- Shorty - Lagos to Cotonou - My Agro Base farming where i rearing chicken and other animals was set ablazed overnight and we do not know who is actual behinde all these evils! -
I and my crew was locked up for 3 good days….They wanted to charge us to court but later we are fined an huge amount of money…I asked them why did they arrest the men, they started laughing and saying all sorts mockering words! -
…because now, am left with nothing and remember i told you my Guy (Joe) gave up earlier this morning

MagnoliaNot quite a Newb

Joined: 18 Feb 2009
Posts: 29

Posted:
Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:41 pm

Craig007 wrote:

The same applies to yourself. You attack the subject with such ferocity, nothing will sway you.

Wrong.

If you presented credible scientific evidence that proved that either the earth is not warming or that humans are not responsible, I would reconsider my position.

A few articles by skeptics saying "these scientists are wrong" is not credible scientific evidence. Saying gravity doesn't exist isn't evidence that it doesn't.

If you have evidence that genuinely refutes the conclusions of the IPCC report, I'd love to see it. As, I'm sure, would Al Gore and a few billion other folks.

Quote:

Whenever I get my hands on some polystyrene, I burn it in my back yard, just for fun. I hope I makeup for what the liberals have taken away.

Might I suggest starting a factory to produce plastics and then burning them for energy? That should really grow some hair on your chest.

Quote:

It's the moral priniciple I standup for.

What moral principle is that? The principle of being unwilling to listen to reason? The principle of being unable to consider that your actions have impacts on others? The principle of being as wasteful as humanly possible for no reason whatsoever?

Slightlyoutofit wrote:

I'm all for Global Warming.
We had a crappy summer here so a bit of sunshine won't go amiss.

Sorry Squirrel, but due to ocean circulation patterns, your part of the world may be in line to become colder, not warmer, as the planet heats up.

Quote:

You and I won't get a say in wether Africa gets any cash anyway. . . Unless you personally donate through individual charities you have no choice in the matter.

Agreed! And if you have some cash to spare and want to control where it goes, might I suggest you throw it to the good people at Link snipped. 7/9. They are a microlending group that allows you to make small loans to entrepreneurs in tough economic circumstances the world over. Check it out.

Craig007rude right wing fascist

Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 3124

Posted:
Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:29 pm

Quote:

REMOVED - I'VE NEARLY BROKEN MY PACT.

I've had enough of this. There is no way I will rise to these blatant insults.

_________________CAN VISA BE GIVING IN THE PLANE? YOUR QUEEN ELIZABETH CAN NOT TAKE VISA IN THE PLANE,TALKLESS OF YOU - WILLIAM PAUL

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MagnoliaNot quite a Newb

Joined: 18 Feb 2009
Posts: 29

Posted:
Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:42 pm

Whether or not you are a prick is indeed a matter of OPINION. Whether or not the earth is warming is a matter of fact. Scientific, testable, verifiable fact. It doesn't stop being true because you don't believe in it any more than your plane will crash to the ground if you stop believing in aerodynamics.

As for the old "I paid for it therefore I can do what I want" trope. The true "cost" of your vehicle goes well beyond the money you paid for it. The true cost of your wastefulness goes well beyond your own backyard.

As for you being an adult. I find it quite interesting to read that statement at the beginning of a paragraph in which you express a guiding moral principal of doing what you want when you want because you want with no regard to anyone else. I hope I'm not the only one who appreciates the irony.

FrumpyBBDean: Eater University

Joined: 22 Nov 2006
Posts: 5988
Location: Germany

Posted:
Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:53 pm

I find it hard to change peoples´ behaviour by purely demanding to. There must be something to offer, too.
Give all West Africa fast broadband access but have them prosecute scammers. Ship containers of free computers over there but demand their local governments to work with the donators against online fraud.
Oh well maybe I am too blonde. I shouldn´t have read this thread anyway. The only on-topic thing I know is, better let it be a give-and-take rather than a demand-with-loud-words. It usually makes the conservatives welcome these subjects like oysters

Sorry, I've been reading this and trying to figure out exactly what is suppose to be new or shocking about this revelation of Global Warming. I'm also trying to figure out how a discussion on a internet forum is going to solve the problem, let alone solved by individuals who get on soapboxes to ram a few subject matter facts and heated opinions will somehow endear others to that opinion.

This is going nowhere fast. If you're ultra concerned about saving the planet, turn off your computer and save some power.

Craig, I appreciate your willingness to withdraw from a heated discussion that will not likely result in anything but animosity between other members. However, by removing your post, Magnolia's post now looks like an unprovoked attack on you. I don't believe that was the case.

In general, when participating in a discussion like this, lets either discuss it rationally and with mutual respect, or find another outlet. Provocative comments and insults will only get topics locked, and perhaps force us to make the policy against discussing volatile issues such as politics and religion much broader. That would be unfortunate since we have so many members who are articulate and knowledgeable.

Some baiters seem to thrive on conflict. If you have that trait, and that's all you are getting out of participating in a discussion like this, take a step back.

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