New York would never do something so obvious as fark with the timing on the lights.

They'd simply design the road horribly in the first place by doing something like putting three sets of lights on a half-mile downhill stretch of road, then half-assing the set-up of the light timing - and when the mistakes are brought to their attention, then they'll have a cop camp out by the malfunctioning light to pull people over who weren't expecting a 3am red light for an intersection at a strip mall where all the stores have been closed for six hours.

Bonus: putting lights on hills means the pavement gets all chattery real fast from trucks slamming on the brakes on the hills, and the asphalt contractors get extra work!

There's a red light camera in Tallahassee where the yellow light is 3 secs, and they have the balls to show it to you when you watch the video. Boss's daughter got one. I told them to fight it. 3 secs is way below the minimum.

Coastalgrl:Jaywalking is a HUGE issue in FL and I cant fathom why. I have lived in 7 different states and never encountered the sheer number of people who waltz casually across a 5 lane road with a posted speed limit of 45 MPH.

The easy explanation?Law enforcement doesn't want to risk their lives busting people for doing this on those roads and there's no revenue from it. Jaywalking tickets don't even cover the cost of fielding an officer to write them. They're going after the speeders for their (non-existent wink wink nudge nudge) quotas for the month. If they are caught and stopped, its such a minor fine all it teaches people is not to get caught. They'll still cross without a cross-walk, they'll still go halfway across an intersection without a light, and they'll still cause traffic congestion.

Problem is, the act of getting into a car still turns most people into flaming self-centered assholes who blow red lights, block intersections, jump the green to turn left, text while driving, and fail to use their turn signals.

freeforever:Speaking of yellow, these things are turning up everywhere in Florida now, and it's only a matter of time before someone is killed when a driver doesn't realize you may have to stop at a yellow light.

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In my experience, these are used on left turn lanes with a dedicated signal, which means no green circle. Traditionally, after the arrow turned red and the opposing traffic was given a green, those in the left turn lane were stuck waiting for the rest of the cycle, even if there was no oncoming traffic. This solves that problem.

As for accidents, it's common for lights to flash yellow on the main streets and red on the cross streets at night. Flashing red is equivalent to a stop sign, flashing yellow is equivalent to a yield sign.

freeforever:Speaking of yellow, these things are turning up everywhere in Florida now, and it's only a matter of time before someone is killed when a driver doesn't realize you may have to stop at a yellow light.

That's ricockulous. What's wrong with a green circle after the green arrow goes out? That's been "left turn yield" in all the states I've driven in.

Someone's gonna take a flashing yellow as meaning "better get through the intersection before you lose your chance" rather than "stop and yield to oncoming traffic". Do counties make money off of traffic accidents?

Next, counties will reduce speed limits just inside the intersections so as to "legally" decrease the yellow light timing. This is the problem when you make traffic handling profit oriented instead of safety oriented!

Oldsmar had a similar issue, where its intersection at Tampa Rd. and SR-580 (State St.) was improperly timed. The yellow light was just 3.0 seconds instead of 4.3 seconds. When the problem was addressed last fall, citations plummeted by 90 percent. But no notices, or refunds, went out to ticketed drivers. for $afety