Tom Brady: Maybe we spoiled people

The Patriots were able to rally back for a 29-26 overtime win against the Jets on Sunday, but the game still had a negative and familiar feeling for many Patriots fans.

Up 10 heading into the fourth quarter, the Patriots wound up giving up 13 straight points to the Jets before Tom Brady was able to lead drives for game-tying and game-winning field goals by Stephen Gostkowski. The win was a change, but the inability to close out a game with a late lead was reminiscent of their losses to Baltimore and Seattle. It’s been an issue of great frustration in New England and one Brady addressed in an interview with WEEI on Monday.

“We’re trying to do it. It’s not like you flip a switch. I don’t think that’s it. There’s 53 guys that are trying to do their best out there, and we’re just not doing our best. Hopefully we get to that point. That’s part of why we practice, why we meet and why we go to to work every day,” Brady said. “I wish it were that easy. And maybe there were times when it has looked that easy. But I think you appreciate it when it does work. And you realize the preparation that you put into it, that it pays off. Maybe we’ve just spoiled some people in the meantime. Because it’s hard to win, man. It’s really hard to win.”

The Patriots haven’t had a dominating stretch yet this season where it’s looked easy for them to win week after week and the offense definitely missed on some chances to take the suspense out of Sunday’s game, but the team is still 4-3 and on top of the AFC East. We recall hearing some similar conversations last season when losses to the Steelers and Giants dropped them to 5-3. They didn’t wind up losing again until the Super Bowl.

That’s not to say that this team is about to reel off a nine-game winning streak, but it’s probably best to hold of on assessments of what the team can or can’t do for a little while longer.

You can’t correct every idiot out there, but hey Tom, just know that not all of us think that way.

mpnieland says:Oct 22, 2012 11:41 AM

As a Pats fan, the biggest frustration I’m having is that we’re not maximizing our chance to win.

I understand wanting to be able to run the ball and control the clock, but for God sakes, you’ve got Tom-fricking-Brady back there. Against a team that you’ve already proven can’t defend all your outs and over the middle passes, don’t run the ball hoping to shorten the game. Just have Tom throw it 45 times and “run” the ball with short patterns like they always did. Let Tom win the game like he has done for years.

That being said, you have a good run game now. Use it against teams that can’t defend the run. But with the Jets, your advantage is against the pass.

The other frustration is that anyone (even Sanchez) can throw a pass over 15 yards on our secondary and it’ll either be a deserved pass interference, or a wide open catch. Those guys can’t defend anything. But if the offense was functioning the way it can in the passing game, we’d be up by so much it won’t matter. You just can’t count on that defense to hold a 10 pts lead in the 4th quarter.

ialwayswantedtobeabanker says:Oct 22, 2012 11:41 AM

If one looks at what the Patriots have done over the last decade or so, it’s pretty phenomenal. Five AFC Championships and three Lombardis.

The two constants have been Brady and Belichick. The other members of the cast have been on and off the stage, but B & B are amazing.

And as Thomas Edison reportedly said, “Genius is one percent inspiration and ninety-nine percent perspiration.” In other words, Brady and Belichick both work their asses off – and set the tone – for the otherwise ever-shifting roster.

My team has always been Pittsburgh, so there is no homerism factor in play here. If some in New England are unappreciative, Brady may have a bit of a point regarding their having raised expectation levels to such heights – that it provides a fertile ground for disappointment.

rc33 says:Oct 22, 2012 11:42 AM

Patriots fans likely have taken their 11, 12 and 13 win seasons for granted. I recall Gary Kubiak’s first 5 year here in Houston when he’d always say how difficult it is just to win a game in the NFL…much less roll off a bunch of 11-5 and 12-4 seasons.

As a Pats fan, I’m kind of starting to like Rex Ryan. Sure he talks a lot, but he still seems to know how to put together a good gameplan. Had it not been for their special teams blunder and a bad handoff, they would have had that game. Happy we came out with a win though.

enzo1030 says:Oct 22, 2012 11:43 AM

Pats could have easily lost this game. They should consider themselves lucky the Jets helped them out by making dumb mistakes. Oh and the refs, but thats the Patriot way.

It’s not so much that Pats fans are spoiled, as it is watching the D go on the field late in any game to protect a lead of less than nine. Doesn’t usually work out well.

mtchainsmoker says:Oct 22, 2012 11:44 AM

Added Brady, “It’s hard to win when you can’t film your opponent’s signals and walkthroughs.”

CKL says:Oct 22, 2012 11:45 AM

He’s right, it’s hard to get a W in the NFL. But for me, it’s about expectations. The Pats 06 team overachieved in my opinion, so I was fairly happy with them. This team seems to have more talent than their record suggests. So they are a bit disappointing. Plus some of their issues (closing out games, by either side of the ball) have been issues for awhile now.

I am hopeful especially on D since I believe part of their issues are because they are so young. This past draft, they drafted all defensive players but one and EVERY SINGLE ONE of the defensive players made their roster. That tells you something. Usually BB teams get better around Thanksgiving and put it into overdrive. We’ll see if that happens this year.

I think most Pats fans are spoiled at this point. They’ve been dominant for so long that performances like this frustrate them. It’s just human nature, I think most fan bases would be guilty of this given the circumstances. At least they don’t boo Santa.

Fans know its hard to win. We do appreciate the hard work, the intricate planning, the incredible athleticism that football requires.

However, that does not mean we don’t also see the lack of putting fundamental football practice into play, the poor play calling, the lack of focus, the lack of consistency, and on occasion, the lack of mental toughness from this team. And when we see it, we will comment on it and expect the team to respond.

Tell me about it! The people in New England must have forgotten how BAD the Patriots were. I lived up there during the past 8 years and i can tell you, when the Pats would beat someone by 6 points—people would call and complain…

One thing to remember—try being a Skins fan! We’ll take a win however and whenever we can get it!

patriots123456 says:Oct 22, 2012 11:48 AM

The Pats should have won more convincingly.

But the Jets played very well yesterday and deserve a lot of credit.

whatnojets says:Oct 22, 2012 11:48 AM

The Jets lost a heart-breaker yesterday.
Although the result does not show it BUT they played better than the Pats

maybe your team isn’t good anymore…other teams are better than the patriots.

azarkhan says:Oct 22, 2012 11:51 AM

People need to chill about the Patriots. The defense is exceptionally young, but I think will be ranked in the top 15 before the season is over (they are clearly better than the 31st ranking they had last season). The offense is #1 and will be in the top 5 at seasons end. It’s not like teams are blowing out the Patriots. The Patriots have just had some bad luck in close games, but, based on yesterdays result, that may be about to change.

5wide says:Oct 22, 2012 11:53 AM

Or perhaps they took the extra radio out of your helmet and stopped you from stealing other teams signals.

wayne1693 says:Oct 22, 2012 11:53 AM

With so many NFL games still undecided deep into the 4th quarter, generating great drama & great television, let’s not shed too many tears for the psycho-fans in New England [and elsewhere] complaining that their team is not dominating enough.

blackandbluedivision says:Oct 22, 2012 11:59 AM

How long before BB is on the hot seat? I’m just saying. It’s been close to 10 years since their last championship. Yes, they’ve been in the playoffs all but one year since then and dominating their division. But, it’s time for a change. With that personnel as it is, it would be easy for the next coach to keep winning. But, they need a new philosophy and BB just isn’t cutting it.

blackandbluedivision says:Oct 22, 2012 12:01 PM

The Patriots are dominating people but they need a new defensive coordinator. They’ve got new personnel in the secondary this year but they’re still getting torched by pretty basic quarterbacks. It’s about the scheme.

As a Pats fan, only Pats fans complain about winning in OT vs a division rival.

Take your pink hats off, folks. This is the NFL. Every good team in the league has struggled against a bottom-of-the-barrel franchise this year. Look at New Orleans and Green Bay. The Giants almost lost to the skins yesterday.

Our team came through in overtime with two solid drives by Brady, and Gost knocked in the game winning field goals, and our D stripped Sanchez for the win. Guess what Pats fans…. that’s how we won our first 3 Super Bowls. Not by blowing people out every game… we did it by coming through when the game was close.

I loved seeing that win, and I hope we see more like it tbh

mattwalshvideo says:Oct 22, 2012 12:05 PM

It’s just never been quite a easy as when we were cheating and spoiling our dopey fan base.

seattlereign says:Oct 22, 2012 12:07 PM

The most obnoxious fan base in sports is witnessing the slow erosion of their professional sports teams. This is great!!

Take your pink hats off, folks. This is the NFL. Every good team in the league has struggled against a bottom-of-the-barrel franchise this year. Look at New Orleans and Green Bay. The Giants almost lost to the skins yesterday.

Obviously I’m biased, but to say that the Skins are bottom-of-the-barrel is pretty ludicrous.

Pat’s fans ARE spoiled. They don’t just want their team to win, they want them to dominate. And because the Pat’s HAVE been dominant through the years, that’s what fans expect every game.
That being said, most of the rest of us are just happy with a win…even if it’s an “ugly” win.
I wouldn’t be so quick to write off the Pat’s…they have so many weapons on offense and will put it together in time to make the play-off’s. Their defense may not be great, but all those young guys will start playing better. And its not like the AFC East is a power house.

mcdaniels is killing you pats fans… no doubt gronk is a very good tight end, but welker is your #1 wr, and the ball needs to go his way. I can’t understand the disrespect welker is getting right now.

jae121704 says:Oct 22, 2012 12:12 PM

I cant seem to wrap my head around the pea brained non Pats fans that use spygate in every conversation.

That being said, the Pats just need better game planning it says to me. Seems like the offensive play calling has been horrendous, screen plays on 2nd and 9 that gaine a yard, and put you in third and longs that seem to be un-gainable. Don’t everyone forget Lloyd dropped three key passes yesterday. My philosophy – if it hits you in the hands, catch the ball.

Defense will get better, but the Pats play a much better man than they do zone. Too much space for these guys to catch passes, and get YAC. Tackling has been better this year, except for Chung. This teams bye week couldnt have come at a better time after the London game.

patriotenvy says:Oct 22, 2012 12:16 PM

Spy Gate really spoiled me Tom. It’s not easy being a Patriots fan in CT with all the Giants fans either. I don’t feel spoiled that’s for sure.

flash1283 says:Oct 22, 2012 12:18 PM

As a Pats fan, only Pats fans complain about winning in OT vs a division rival.

Take your pink hats off, folks. This is the NFL. Every good team in the league has struggled against a bottom-of-the-barrel franchise this year. Look at New Orleans and Green Bay. The Giants almost lost to the skins yesterday.

Our team came through in overtime with two solid drives by Brady, and Gost knocked in the game winning field goals, and our D stripped Sanchez for the win. Guess what Pats fans…. that’s how we won our first 3 Super Bowls. Not by blowing people out every game… we did it by coming through when the game was close.

I loved seeing that win, and I hope we see more like it tbh

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May be the MOST rational comment here!

Ask any Ravens fan if they would have been happy with a win yesterday if it came the same way the Patriots win came.

When I was a young kid back in ’73 I took to the Patriots and have been a fan since then. Seeing just about every iteration this team has had, it is an understatement to say that I have seen the worst and the best of this franchise.

That being said, this lifetime fan has one thing to say to Mr. Brady – yes maybe we have been spoiled, but honestly I think maybe you need to pull your head out.

It is your poor decisions out there this season that have cost games. Yes the secondary SUCKS and they have given up big plays, but you sir, you have let big plays go. I can’t count how many times this year there have been open receivers that if you would just stay there for another moment or two to make the pass and take a hit (like you use to – what’s the problem now – afraid your pretty face might get scratched up and you will lose your modeling gigs?) then there would be a zero in the L column this year.

No, we are not spoiled, we have expectations. You use to meet them, but lately you have forgotten them. You want to stay at home, be a dad and do modeling, fine. But don’t play football if that is what you want to do because it obviously, without question or discussion is affecting the way you play.

This is one fan that knows you are a main reason why things are not looking so good this year. Pull your head out and do your job like you use to do or get out of the way to let someone else give it a shot. At this point, it won’t be much worse.

And to anyone who wants to comment on him being one of the greatest – yes, but make sure you use that in past, not present tense. He will be a HOF nod on the first go around, but from this fans standpoint – “What have you done for me lately?”

The Pats have evolved into game-planning warriors and gameday worriers. The coaching staff will always come up with a great gameplan and the Pats are usually in control of the game early on. Then when the other team makes adjustments, they aren’t able to adapt and struggle to finish the game. This has been pretty obvious over the last few years.

southpaw2k says:Oct 22, 2012 12:28 PM

blackandbluedivision says:
Oct 22, 2012 11:59 AM
How long before BB is on the hot seat? I’m just saying. It’s been close to 10 years since their last championship. Yes, they’ve been in the playoffs all but one year since then and dominating their division. But, it’s time for a change. With that personnel as it is, it would be easy for the next coach to keep winning. But, they need a new philosophy and BB just isn’t cutting it.

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Whoa whoa whoa – hold on there. You wanna put a head coach on the hot seat when the last time he took the Patriots all the way to the Super Bowl was just LAST SEASON? Are you out of your mind? How can you possibly say it’s time for a change based upon the resume you actually listed yourself?

Now, it’d be one thing if the Patriots hadn’t even made the playoffs since they went for 19-0 following the 2007 season. Had that been the case, you might have a valid argument. But we’re taking about a team who came off a 13-win season in 2011 and an appearence in the Super Bowl. What in the world is good enough for you as a fan? And were you even a Pats fan prior to 2001?

ruthlessburgher says:Oct 22, 2012 12:29 PM

Tom Brady pre-Spygate: “It’s easy when you have the answers to the test.” Three rings.

I’ve been saying this forever now. Patriots fans or totally spoiled. Here in Boston we either win 38-17 or spend 6 days complaining about why we didn’t win 38-17. It’s ridiculous. We are the only team in the league that has to apologize for how we win games.

2007 is what spoiled everyone here. Go back and look at the scores of those games from 2001-2004 when we won 3 Super Bowls. Plenty, and I mean plenty of ugly wins that we were all fine and dandy with. Everyone just needs to relax and realize that we have 1 guy left from those early decade dynasty teams. Just 1. It’s a new team.

sjhesketh says:Oct 22, 2012 12:30 PM

translation: it was way easier when we had the cameras rolling and were cheating our way to super bowl victories too bad we got busted

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Since the beginning of the 2007 season the Pats are 66-18 in the regular season. Please stop talking now and forever, your ignorance knows no bounds.

pftcensorssuck says:Oct 22, 2012 12:30 PM

blackandbluedivision says:Oct 22, 2012 11:59 AM

How long before BB is on the hot seat? I’m just saying. It’s been close to 10 years since their last championship. Yes, they’ve been in the playoffs all but one year since then and dominating their division. But, it’s time for a change. With that personnel as it is, it would be easy for the next coach to keep winning. But, they need a new philosophy and BB just isn’t cutting it.
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Seriously?

Belichick has had the most phenominal record since his last Super Bowl win in 2004, and has been in two of the last five Super Bowls – including just last year – and you want to CAN him???

Congratulations for the most ignorant post of the year.

Go back to watching soccer, please.

sweetzinger says:Oct 22, 2012 12:32 PM

Maybe Brady/Pats fans/the media do not realise they beat one team with a winning record lasy year. And that team choked 3 times in that game.

richwizl says:Oct 22, 2012 12:34 PM

The fans up here have been spoiled, for sure. The Patriots are clearly one of the best teams in the NFL, but certainly not totally dominant, like the 18-0 team; they have things to work on. If Lloyd didn’t drop 3 routine passes yesterday, the game would not have been so close. These aren’t robots, they’re humans, and they mess up at times, which means you can lose any time you don’t play your best; especially in a league that has parody. Fumbles happen, players cause them. The Jets played a good game and they have good players. Our fans who were expecting a blowout are living in a dream world.

Patriots fans are very spoiled, why is this news in 2012? Pre-Brady (and Kraft, really) the Patriots franchise was arguably worse than the Jets, which is a real accomplishment considering the Jets are snakebitten. It has always been my opinion that Patriots fans thank their lucky stars for Mo Lewis. Tom Brady turned that franchise around and made them a dynasty and preferential contenders.

Seems like Patriot fans are learning the lesson Colts fans learned in a brutal fashion; even one of the best of all time has trouble getting it done when there is no team in place around him.

Patriot fan is the very definition of spoiled. They are smug and their sense of entitlement is a joke. Once william and brady head out to pasture, the ride will be over and the ‘fans’ will begin to jump ship.

Patriots= a franchise seeded on a bogus call (tuck rule) and rooted in cheating (spygate). Thank you Eli for ripping their hearts out TWICE! It’s the least they deserved.

Pats haven’t won a SB since they stopped filming opponents practices. Hate on me all you want, but I speak the truth. GO NYG!!

weepingjebus says:Oct 22, 2012 1:06 PM

Longtime Pats fan here and I have definitely been spoiled by the last 10 years. Forget the great SB wins (and losses), the 21-game winning streak, Brady-to-Moss 5 times a game… what has spoiled me is the knowledge we have a chance to beat anyone. Believe me, for a long long time that was not the case. And I still think we have that, even though I do get frustrated by our soft secondary and some of the other problems. We’re 4-3, with those 3 losses coming by a combined 4 points. I’m not exactly edging off the bandwagon just yet.

— Must have been a lot easier during SpyGate when you knew all the defensive calls before the play…

randy8123 says:Oct 22, 2012 1:12 PM

As a Pats fan I can say 100% correct. When in a “rebuilding year” you reach your 5th Super Bowl in 11 years and the fan base complains because the team couldn’t hold a 4th quarter lead, they are definitely spoiled. Newsflash – titles are not a birthright, how about remembering the first 4 decades the team existed, and appreciate what you are seeing today, because it is not going to last forever.

I like Tom Brady, think he’s a good person, good leader and great quarterback. He spoke the truth. Since Ryan was hired, The Jets always play the Pats tough, always. B and B are a deadly combo and i’d never count them out.

vikesfansteve says:Oct 22, 2012 1:17 PM

It sure is easy to beat the blitz and know the exact hot read receiver to go to when you know the other teams plays. No more cheating no more SuperBowl wins. Your suspect Brady. You and the rest of your loud mouth cheating team.

ampats says:Oct 22, 2012 1:19 PM

Funny how perceptions change week to week. Hats off to the Jets on a well played game for a team that EVERYONE said would be blown out. These two know each other well and are usually close games.

Keep the hating up because come January the one thing you can count on is the Patriots and the playoffs.

flash1283 says:Oct 22, 2012 1:22 PM

vikesfansteve says:
Oct 22, 2012 1:17 PM
It sure is easy to beat the blitz and know the exact hot read receiver to go to when you know the other teams plays. No more cheating no more SuperBowl wins. Your suspect Brady. You and the rest of your loud mouth cheating team.

joebloww says:
Oct 22, 2012 1:03 PM
Pats haven’t won a SB since they stopped filming opponents practices. Hate on me all you want, but I speak the truth. GO NYG!!
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I’ve never understood this argument. You make it sound like winning the SB is so easy in this league. Or that the Patriots have been 2-14 for 5 straight years. They’ve been to the playoffs EVERY year and SB twice.
Congrats to the Giants, they played really well in both SB wins vs. the Pats…but they both had two of the greatest plays (Tyree/Manningham) EVER in SuperBowls. You act as if the Giant’s wonn 35-0 in both SBs.

jessethegreat says:Oct 22, 2012 1:48 PM

Perhaps one should invest in players other than ones just at the skill positions? Pats used to be known for their tough defense, and having great quarterback that didn’t have the greatest tools on offense, but he was the best at using each tool (Kevin Faulk, Troy Brown, Benjamin Watson, Deion Branch, Antoine Smith, Correy Dillon etc) when the time called for it.

Call me crazy, but I think the old Pats teams with Lawyer Milloy, Ty Law, Seymour, Harrison, Willie McGinnist, etc would beat the snot out of this team.

sjhesketh says:Oct 22, 2012 1:50 PM

Vikings fans talking smack? That’s a new one.

footballfan58 says:Oct 22, 2012 1:50 PM

I’ve been a Pat’s fan since the days of Steve Grogen. I’ve watched them at their worst and watched them at their best and have stayed loyal to them throughout. Yes, we are spoiled because Tom and Bill have set the bar so high that is what we have come to expect. All the comments about Spygate are coming from people who are very envious of their accomplishments. New England was once at the bottom of the NFL barrel just as every other team in the league has been at one time or another. We will ride high for awhile then we’ll be on the decline, just like everyone else. That’s life, folks.

sjhesketh says:Oct 22, 2012 1:51 PM

And Raiders fans too? LOL

thereisfootballwestofjersey says:Oct 22, 2012 1:53 PM

As a fan from far, far away – the Patriots simply don’t scare anybody anymore. They can be beaten anytime, anywhere. That wasn’t the case 5 years ago

sjhesketh says:Oct 22, 2012 2:03 PM

Maybe Brady/Pats fans/the media do not realise they beat one team with a winning record lasy year. And that team choked 3 times in that game.
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What an odd thing to say, since the Pats beat a team that was above .500 the very previous week, and beat them convincingly, to put that team back to .500.

ogre2010 says:Oct 22, 2012 2:15 PM

I thought it was a good on yesterday!! When you are the Patriots, people just want to see their Fantasy Players….Oops I mean the team put up big numbers every game

rushmatic says:Oct 22, 2012 2:20 PM

borisbulldog says:

I thought Belicheat was a defensive guru, what happened?

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If you believe the hype about how bad our defense is, look no further than Belichick riding this bad defense all the way to the SB last year.

How long before BB is on the hot seat? I’m just saying. It’s been close to 10 years since their last championship. Yes, they’ve been in the playoffs all but one year since then and dominating their division. But, it’s time for a change. With that personnel as it is, it would be easy for the next coach to keep winning. But, they need a new philosophy and BB just isn’t cutting it.
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Seriously?

Belichick has had the most phenominal record since his last Super Bowl win in 2004, and has been in two of the last five Super Bowls – including just last year – and you want to CAN him???

Congratulations for the most ignorant post of the year.

Go back to watching soccer, please.
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Chill Guy. I honestly asked…”How long before BB is on the hot seat?”

It’s an honest question.

His style and schemes are slowly but surely going out of style. People used to follow the trends the Pats used to set. Now they can’t even win the big game any more. They’re being outplayed and outcoached. He’s no longer the defensive genius he once was.

They keep rotating personnel. But, teams are getting better around him. They were horrific in the secondary last year. They have show only a little improvement since then. They’re still getting torched by subpar QB’s.

translation: it was way easier when we had the cameras rolling and were cheating our way to super bowl victories too bad we got busted
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For the record, since “Spy Gate” the NFL team with the best won – loss record is….. The Patriots.

I won’t bother explaining again what Spy gate was about because you either know and like to tweak Pats’ fans or you’re too stupid to ever understand.

Brady wasn’t issuing a proclamation, he was answering an interviewer’s question. His point is valid. Winning any game in the NFL is tough; winning games against division rivals is tougher.

tigerlilac says:Oct 22, 2012 2:49 PM

If you watch the sidelines during games Brady gets on his teammates when necessary. In this statement, he has their backs. Smart leader.

As for Brady and the Patriots offense, here’s the reality: Brady’s offense is # 1 in points scored, # 1 in yards per game, and # 1 in first downs per game.

I too have been a Pats fan since 1973 and yes Tom is right, the fan base is spoiled.

I don’t live in New England any longer so I can’t imagine what it’s like every day following the team, those people can be pretty suffocating.

That said I grew up during the bad times and appreciate every win, TB & BB have done enough for me as a football fan that regardless of how this year or the next few years play out I’ll miss them both very much when they eventually hang it up.

If you’re a true Patriots fan, just enjoy our team being good and relevant because it won’t last forever, nothing does in sports.

It’s an honest question.
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The Patriots record is 34-10 with an AFC Championship over the past 2+ years. All while turning over the majority of their roster and this year fielding the youngest team BB has ever led.

Not bad for a rebuilding phase. Their record during this period would be glory days for most NFL franchises.

Fans know its hard to win. We do appreciate the hard work, the intricate planning, the incredible athleticism that football requires.

However, that does not mean we don’t also see the lack of putting fundamental football practice into play, the poor play calling, the lack of focus, the lack of consistency, and on occasion, the lack of mental toughness from this team. And when we see it, we will comment on it and expect the team to respond.

Just do your job, Brady, and the fans will respond.

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I think you are wrong there… They have a winning record, they are in the lead in the division and they are 4-1 in the AFC.

In the early Brady years, that would have been seen as a good start to the season. For almost any other team in the league that would be seen as a good start to the season. The fans are spoiled. The fans expect 12-4 or better and a bye. That’s what I have come to expect too. It’s time to reset and appreciate what we have. There are no great teams in the league right now and the Patriots have been very competitive in every game. They can stop the run and run the ball. They have a good chance to be there at the end of the season.

– Must have been a lot easier during SpyGate when you knew all the defensive calls before the play…

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Hasn’t been any harder… the Patriots won 2 AFC titles in that time and were in two close Super Bowls… That’s better than most teams.

tigerlilac says:Oct 22, 2012 3:11 PM

To the fan saying “shut up, Brady”, you just don’t get it. Leaders don’t shut up. In the NFL, they speak softly (publicly, but more forcefully to their own guys) and play big on game day. Brady has his team’s back in hgis public comments, as he should. You’re a fan, not a player or a coach, so please stop acting like you’re some major stakeholder and sit back and enjoy the show (good and bad).

They didn’t spoil anybody. They tarnished a sport and stole three superbowls. Just like Armstrong, the Patriots should have their titles stripped and Bellicheck face a lifetime ban. They didn’t win any superbowls, and haven’t since they were caught cheating.

zombiefan1000 says:Oct 22, 2012 4:07 PM

Patriots fan- a lot of ppl are overlooking the injuries 2 gronk and hernandez. our offense will not be as efficient until theyre healthier. Our secondary is pathetic as well. One thing i def have to add is that Rex is a great coach. He had a great gameplan and came up short but i dont understand why so many ppl think he should be on the hot seat. hes a fantastic coach and IMO incredibly entertaining.

southpaw2k says:Oct 22, 2012 4:16 PM

Chill Guy. I honestly asked…”How long before BB is on the hot seat?”

It’s an honest question.

His style and schemes are slowly but surely going out of style. People used to follow the trends the Pats used to set. Now they can’t even win the big game any more. They’re being outplayed and outcoached. He’s no longer the defensive genius he once was.

They keep rotating personnel. But, teams are getting better around him. They were horrific in the secondary last year. They have show only a little improvement since then. They’re still getting torched by subpar QB’s.

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You want an honest answer? The answer is “six months from never.”

If you really are going to claim that Belichick’s system is failing and lacks any creativity, then how in the world has he managed to win the AFC East every season since 2009? And if Belichick really did find himself on the hot seat, then what coach do you really count as safe in his job? Certainly not Mike Tomlin, since “only” won a Super Bowl four years ago and has “only” one division title since. Definitely not Sean Payton either, since he won a Super Bowl a whopping three years ago and has been suspended for the entire 2012 season. Good lord, John Harbaugh better get his resume together since he only has a single division title to his name and a measly two appearances in the AFC Championship Game!

flash1283 says:Oct 22, 2012 4:26 PM

Seems like Patriot fans are learning the lesson Colts fans learned in a brutal fashion; even one of the best of all time has trouble getting it done when there is no team in place around him.
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Sorry but that’s not an accurate statement

The offense is ranked #1
The front 7 is in the top 10 vs the run.

The only problem with the team is the up and down play (more down than up) of the secondary.

flash1283 says:Oct 22, 2012 4:28 PM

@southpaw2k

Are you a ravens fan?

rangers84 says:Oct 22, 2012 5:15 PM

Amazing what happens when you can’t cheat your way to SB’s.

How many have they won since that was discovered?

Belichick. One of the greatest coaches ever, if not THE greatest. He was also caught red handed cheating, and who knows how long it was going on for.

That must never be forgotten.

southpaw2k says:Oct 22, 2012 6:36 PM

flash1283 says:Oct 22, 2012 4:28 PM

@southpaw2k

Are you a ravens fan?

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Yes, sir.

fp540 says:Oct 22, 2012 7:24 PM

Tom Brady, you are genius when making remarks like that, you really believe that the Patriot’s have spoiled their fans by having such domination over the last decade or so, really. Well, just like the players, the owners and the New England fan base – ya’ll a bunch of nannies, whining about “it’s hard to win and when you accustom folks to winning every year, you create the worse fan ever (regardless) of the professional sport played. Bellick’s coaching magic and your talent will eventually fade and Patriot’s fans return to the Patriots of yesteryear.

Miami Dolphins

fp540 says:Oct 22, 2012 7:25 PM

Tom Brady, you are genius when making remarks like that, you really believe that the Patriot’s have spoiled their fans by having such domination over the last decade or so, really. Well, just like the players, the owners and the New England fan base – ya’ll a bunch of nannies, whining about “it’s hard to win and when you accustom folks to winning every year, you create the worse fan ever (regardless) of the professional sport played. Bellick’s coaching magic and your talent will eventually fade and Patriot’s fans return to the Patriots of yesteryear.

fp540

gimmeabruschi says:Oct 22, 2012 7:45 PM

@pftwstbshmc

Brady is talking about people like you. He’s currently rated the 6th best QB. That means 26 other QBs aren’t doing as well. But you still gripe. It’s just TFB for you that he can’t make up for every other deficiency on the team, but no one player can. The one who needs to pull their head out is… Y O U.

Usually, watching a Pats game was like watching a surgeon dissect his patient many many different ways…You always knew the patient was headed to the coroner for an autopsy.

Nowadays, every bloody team approaches the Pats team with gusto, with hook or crook. Also, our stalwarts are not so young anymore, with youngins from other teams stepping up.

To win games, Brady just has to be good, but to win the SB, the defence has to step up. This ground and pound philosophy of other teams is what wins that final game. Obviously, Beli knows this, and it is why, for yesterday’s game, we won when the defence was on the field. Makes me a nervous filly though…

richwizl says:Oct 22, 2012 8:32 PM

For you people who think Belichik was the only Coach filming other teams, you need to wake up; all the teams were doing it. The Patriots were clearly the best team in the league that year. They penalized the Pats hard and fined the Coach; then they went 18-0 destroying virtually every opponent in their path that year until the Superbowl, where they were called for a penalty every time they ran a good play, while Giants’ penalties were ignored. Even then, the Giants needed a horseshoe up their butts to win in the last seconds. The Pats were cheated terribly in the AFC Championship game vs the Colts as well; phantom calls at critical times. They were so frighteningly good the first six years of Brady’s career they would have ruined the league by winning 5 Super Bowls in 6 years had the league not made sure they got slowed down. Don’t ever think this stuff is all on the level, folks; that’s not how the world works.

brazzz01 says:Oct 22, 2012 11:30 PM

As for Brady’s comments, there’s probably some truth to it.

But it shouldn’t mean that they SHOULDN’T try spoiling fans. That’s why we buy tickets, merchandise and support them.

brazzz01 says:Oct 22, 2012 11:44 PM

“Maybe Brady/Pats fans/the media do not realise they beat one team with a winning record lasy year.”

Popularly quoted but misleading stat.

They beat a bunch of teams that finished 8-7 not including their loss to the Pats. Why penalize the Pats for beating them. And the broncos were technically 9-7 without their 2 losses to the Pats. So yeah they really beat a bunch of winning teams last year.

gronknation says:Oct 23, 2012 12:11 AM

The Patriots, WIN, by three and people freak out…really. Its the NFL, your not going to win by 50 every game. The negativity in this town sucks. I still don’t see an AFC team that can stop them in the post season. Run the table, tie with Texans at 13-3…same old story…2 home wins… superbowl time.

belicheckyoself says:Oct 23, 2012 7:48 PM

This years team reminds me of the 09 team at this point. Talented, hanging around vs teams but not dominating, yet to gel, and mistake prone. Like the 09 team they also have a decision to make about how good they want to be in the second half of the season. I think they’ll make a better choice, I think they’re hungrier, and made up of determined veterans and young guys who are getting better as they go.
I think they’ll win December, and most of November, and All of the playoffs.
That being said, Brady is not playing at a level to criticise anybody. He’s mistake prone, and looks nervous. I’ve said for years he made Light look good and he’s proving me wrong. He is not now this teams leader, and he flips out more when he screws up than when the rest of the offense does. They’re not built for the 07 shock and awe stuff and he and Mcdaniels need to acknowledge that. Lloyd aint Randy. Conversely the tight ends aint perrenial balldroppers watson and Gaffney. Flood the damn short ball andthen take shots when youre up. When you want to drag D’s deep use McCourty as a receiver opposite Lloyd. He can Move! He cant drop more passes than Lloyd(who will play great this week).
Anyway just venting. The young D will gel, and if theyre willing to run the ball theyll win championships.

belicheckyoself says:Oct 23, 2012 7:54 PM

Also manage the effing clock again. Why did that have to stop. I may be spoiled but I’m right.
I saw some seattle fans on here talking noise. They got spoiled quick

It’s so cute how Patsie fans pretend that their team doesn’t get the benefit of virtually every penalty, their O-line NEVER holds, every time anybody hits Brady with anything harder than a cottonswab they 15 yards and a free 1st down, Brady is the proud papa of the nonsensical “Tuck Rule”, that Spygate was only even an issue b/c it was so quickly and so VERY COMPLETELY swept under the rug and promptly DESTROYED??? and that Patsies DB nearly never get called for DPI while their WRs push off more than a naked chick at a fat man’s retreat and that Mr. Brady is the only QB in the league who can command a ref to throw a flag.

mullman76 says:
Oct 22, 2012 12:59 PM
Patriot fan is the very definition of spoiled. They are smug and their sense of entitlement is a joke. Once william and brady head out to pasture, the ride will be over and the ‘fans’ will begin to jump ship.

Patriots= a franchise seeded on a bogus call (tuck rule) and rooted in cheating (spygate). Thank you Eli for ripping their hearts out TWICE! It’s the least they deserved.

Go RAIDERS

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That says it all. Had Mo Lewis not knocked out Drew Bledsoe, Brady wouldnt have came in and played….but they have set the tone for the AFC East and football, with Brady OWNING Pittsburgh and Indianapolis.

Since SpyGate, they havent won Super Bowls, with Eli Manning getting key plays to win.

No one fears them, nor should they, since usually defensive teams garner that kind of deal – once Pats get defensive, then a ring is within reach.

I respect NE, but BB and NE seems to be losing it as the team ages. TE isn’t the most important position in football, and no decent defense should be afraid of anyone not named Welker, Hernandez or Gronk catching the ball.

BB needs to get back to basics, build that O-line, trade for Bowe and stop calling soft plays up 13.