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hey hala, great ref'd anatomy sketches! I really like the hands and feel it's one that takes a lot of patience to get the right gesture, which i think you've captured =)

I agree with a la bapsi, that you are already showing improvement and that it's very useful to approach anatomy constructively, as basic as it seems the basic building blocks of building up form is pivotal for really understanding how the body is constructed; I've done studies of muscles and such but I feel like I get lost in all that detail so I always go back to the basics; i'm not sure if they have constructive anatomy classes by you, but I took 2 classes with Dan Thompson over at Grand Central Academy of Art and he is just simply amazing at breaking the body down, sadly he's not there anymore but I think he teaches workshops but the others at GCA are freaking awesome as well

I mainly use the hard round brush set to a flattened brush shape (you can change that in the roundness of the brush in brush settings) and also have the shape dynamics checked with the angle jitter control checked for directional, along with opacity and flow set to pen pressure and if i need texture I'll turn it on in brush settings, I like to try and paint things out, rather than use a lot of crazy brushes trying to simulate traditional paints and also it gets really chaotic when you have like a million brushes

If you like to build up texture I highly recommend checking out samsonreaper, he is a beast when it comes to building up texture, actually here's his vimeo speedpaint videos and youtube

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thanks snootchy for the tip with the brushes and the links! nom nom nom tutorials
Thanks also for the bit about constructive anatomy. I can totally understand getting lost in the details of the muscles. When I was drawing today I started to get flustered because I was losing the actual shape of the body parts. xx

Sadly the only art related classes around here are water color painting, oil painting, and scrapbooking. : ( my town is full of chemists and art is not really supported. In highschool the art budget got cut to the point where they couldn't even provide sketch paper. *face palm*

I might make some trips into the city though since you seem to know of some great resources there!
Thanks again ^^

I also tried the multi-joint thing today that you see often in Jana's thread (her awesomely amazing godly sb) I realize i chose two really stiff poses. xx not the greatest for that kind of study, but they were hella fun, i want to do more.

Some ink wash gesture studies, i know, the face is UBER tilted.
And some charcoal 1-2 min gestures and male portraits. I suck at males Tried to make them all of diff. race.

hey hala, great to see you working hard! LoL i'm actually a pharmacist, not sure if that's what you meant by chemist (at least that's what they call em in London) but that sucks that there aren't any classes, but still it's great that your continuing to do the studies on your own; yea definitely let me know if you hit up some classes or life figure drawing, i'm always looking for other artists to bounce ideas off or grow as a community; it can be difficult finding other like minded art crazed folks that just want to live inside a paint tube =)

the multi joint thing actually, there's a really great book you might be familiar with it, hogarth that has similar style of teaching the movement and positioning of limbs and body, might not be as stylized or cool looking as jana's sketches but might be worth looking into

as for sketching, i think you capture very nice gestural lines, but one instructor told me that going over the same line darkening it or redrawing a line shows lack of confidence or knowledge of the subject matter, so he told me 'to slow down and observe before laying down a stroke, even with paint, don't overwork a stroke to death and lose the energy created from the brushstroke'

I know in fast gestural sketches it doesn't seem like a whole lot of time and really just trying to capture things fast but when you do more timely sketches take time to observe whatever it is your sketching. I do the same thing so I'm criminal to it as well! I think constructive anatomy really helps where your measuring things out or taking it into thought in the back of your head in the beginning and may seem like more work but will become a lot easier and faster as you do it over and over

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lol snootchy, mostly people that work in government biotech and chem labs. stuff like that. One of the biggest pharmacutical companies in the country is located just a couple miles from me xD But half of them aren't cool like you and into art. ;p

So true: it's so hard to find motivated and willing people!! why!?

THat's some interesting advice about the line, I never thought of it that way. I'm gonna experiment with that.

I've been trying to get my hands on Hogarth's books, i need a job to buy it (my library doesn't have it sadly ) ! College drained all my money, adn yet I've learned more in my short time here in CA than I did the entire year of college xx

Thanks again for the help and comments snootchy, i really appreciate it more than you know. ; D

you're getting better and better! i like how you handled the figure as a silhouette in one of your early posts. the latest batch is great too especially the blue sketches and multi-limbed figures. have fun and keep it up.

sup Hala, where's our update?! hehe j/k but here's a free link to Bridgman's constructive anatomy book, and thanks for the last comment but I'm a bum with only thing art on my mind.

I guess constructive anatomy is more into the technical aspects of drawing the figure but helps a great deal when trying to concept the figure from your head. Like I'm sure your aware of this and can even do it on yourself to find key markers for the spacing of body parts so that it's proportional to one another, for example usually the human figure is around 7-8heads tall or the width of the face is usually 5 eyes across, knowing those kinds of things help a great deal in seeing where things might be off in a sketch; not just proportion but rhythm and balance is also a big component to constructive anatomy which bridgman is great for, happy sketching =)

Snootchy: Omg my stupid computer died on me and took me three days to fix the bitch. xD Thanks a lot for the link!! I understand what you were talking about now.

So--finally a return from my PC being broken. Not many studies because I spent most of my time fixing the pc.
Some experimental speed paints as well. Studies based on Hogarth and Bridgman Now that everything is back to normal, I hope to dive deeper into these studies and books.

Wow you've improving fast! Nice sketches, your really getting the flow/energy of the form down, but watch those proportions!

The gestures will help heaps, same with the multi-limb drawings!

Great work, love the apple up there too,
Keep at it,
matt

Originally Posted by gutss

yesterday, God came to me in a dream and told me that if I don't become a comic book artist, he has decreed that I shall instead be a burlesque dancer.
And I said, "But God, nice panties are so expensive!"
And he said, "Welp, I suppose you better shut up and draw."