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Q. Surely you must be aware of the loophole to enhance and then extract?
A. Yes, but there's not a whole lot I can do about it. Simply removing Pan overnight without warning is not an option for me and not fair to you. I need to find a way to do it that reduces my individual workload (hence the extracting) and addresses the loss of the card someway.

It is a quote about my number 2 question. It is not answering clearly about the loophole of enhancing and then extracting? Please answer as simply as possible because direct answer is the best to answer the kind of question I asked. Thanks

So, this is my love story. I hope she would be mine, and her name is Angie.

"lmao, you might be right, that we started it. But we would still prefer to play other decks again too, the issue is just that we will get murdered by all the towahli bombs if we try it. We won pretty much everything before, but now its just decided by draws, i think after all Alenka and me are getting screwed the most by the current Meta and would benefit by a removal/nerf the most imo." ~ Kaynie

Its a simple comparsion of refunding legendary pan vs gl pan including the costs it takes to upgrade your legendary to gl, but it had a small mistake since i forgot to include the extraction costs of legendary pan.

If you have legendary pan and consider to upgrade him for refund then you basically exchange 889k Silver + a Fire Opal for 250g (since you do not get a Fire Opal refunded anymore and the fire ruby you get back was used in the process).

I value 889k Silver more then 250g, so I wouldnt recommend the enhance, epic to legendary is worth it tho, you net a profit in Silver and Gold and the Pink Diamond is not very valuable.

I am glad to hear, that GMs are concerned about creating a healthier and more competitive PvP enviroment, and are ready to do something about it.

I think it is a good idea to ban Pan. It is crazy what you can do when you combine Pan with with a 100 % return on skills. Then you get infinite skills every turn. I think the worst example of that is Ranger with Pan, Swift Death and Disturbance. They have close to 100 % return on those skills, so with just one Swift Death, a Disturbance and a Pan, they can kill all cards in your hand and keep doing it every turn. With just one Swift Death they can kill your entire deck before you ever get to play anything. That is crazy, because it is like winning the battle without actually fighting it. It doesn't seem like a healthy kind of competition.

Many people also want to ban 11'th hour Towahli. But I think a better way to go is to create new cards that counter it. Make a cheap card (small recharge) that prevents all kinds of distraction and inspiration.

It would also be a good idea to make a cheap card, that prevents card-stealing/card-killing.

Why dont we ban all cards wouldnt that after all be a smarter option? Like i mean take a look at it right. We buy cards but then people who are too lazy and cant think of methods of how they can potentially win then people cry that they always lose. I have 11th card myself and modesty and i still lose to 11th so me being the person i am just take a loss as a loss if i lose im not going to cry over it. People really need to grow up and if they arent even vip 1 then theyre obviously not one spending any money on the game however it seems they get so much say. We vip players buy cards and you non vip players cry to kal to change the whole game just to satisfy you.

This game kal is based on a strategic game play you need to gather cards construct decks that work and simply play. Its just like saying i want to win in the board game called monopoly now give me park lane and mayfair and i want all the properties and when i pass go i want to collect $1000 like seriously if youre going to play this game stop destroying this game by crying to kal and saying that this card is too OP i think you should nerf it or completely get rid of it like wow just wow.

Many ppl complain about how they "cant beat 11th" theres many ways to counter 11th but you need to use your brain you werent put on the planet just to not use your brain so start using it and stop whinging that you always lose. I vs many reputable whales and i beat them. I can probably play free to play and still win for example fairies or qilins. Many ppl use to rush back in the old days of kal and at times could die on turn 3 with overbuffed mifzuna alize maia combo etc

Banning pan is a terrible mistake to this game and destroys it completely. If you guys keep crying to kal next thing youre probably going to do a stupid poll to ban 11th and if that was to happen then i would do a poll to ban modesty to and may as well ban all nids also because they inspire hand when skills are played better yet those embrave 2 (gl) cards better ban them to huh? i mean banning pan wow come on its inspire 4 a 3cd nid is like inspire 2 and skill inspire whole hand 1cd why ban these cards people pay money for them i remember at times even ppl would buy pans for 1k gold at a epic rank just so they could get one this game is already dead when modesty 1st came out and ppl cried and quit and now you guys as a community want to destroy the game even more.

Myself i could defend against modesty disinfo/scorch/true shot/lightning tempest/bulk disinfo and normal monster attacks for example blessed dragonkin awakened 7 atk or something like that is decently solid base attack i can use that to crit 14 on modesty along with other options and stuff like theres always going to be a way to deal with certain cards. This is the only game that calms my nerves and getting through things is a struggle and this game really calms me but its things like this that just infuriate me

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