Just some food for thought,I think if done well you would not pay much more putting the thing up youself. (eg you will not be paying a fee for an established name)Then, rather than doing it in the North of Jhb, (with potential to start saturating the market)rather tap into unexplored markets like the south, west or east of Johburg. (hmmm, isnt there someone already tapping into the east?)That way the sport grows, and there is space for everyone.?

I agree that the North is not always the best place to put a new climbing gym but have looked around the West area and can't find a place.So if anyone knows of a empty warehouse etc that will work please let me know.

Wonderwall is not big enough for the full concept I have but thanks for the suggestion.

Incidently, you are aware that contracts have been signed for a new, purpose built Wonderwall to be contructed? I agree that either North or East should be able to sustain a gym, however I hope its of the right calibre to host a regular crowd and competitions, rather than something simply bought as left overs from a failed/discontinued/upgraded home boulder cave.

Things are happening in JHB, there are currently 2 active commercial gyms, the SA Climbing Academy and Wonderwall. Then Wits University is in the process of building an awesome huge comp wall, the project is already approved by Wits, and to my knowledge the MCSA JHB section have put intention to contribute large portion of the funds. Then David Wade is thinking of expanding his wall in Benoni and making it commercial. Then there are lots of private bouldering walls around such as Peter Laz's wall and Ken's wall. JHB is by far the city in SA which has the most walls and opportunities to indoor train. Despite this number of wall the SA Climbing Academy is going very well, we have over 50 kids who we coach in the afternoons and in the evenings we are full.

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