'Put it on her ring finger cocked the glock/ and started prayin/ to Muhammad and Allah, the most beneficial..."  Nas  Undying Love'
we don't pray to a man.... this shows how misguided nas was apearently...
and yeah I know dead prez are puppets, they allways change each album, then their racist, then their into living healthy and being possitiv and not being critical. simple puppets ^^

These kind of beliefs come from the syndrom that some people got becouse of the white preaching 'white suprimacy' and the blacks revolt by saying that they also got KINGS ! wow, and that they have EMPIRES and that black people are GOD -.- lmao if you belive salasie was a god sorry but then your a big fail..
bro pleaseeeeeeeeeee, spare me the exuses. this whole thing is fail, belive me i've spent enough time investigating these things, you should listen to Warith Deen Muhammed (son of ELijah) he explained this so well.

'I agree with everything said about not judging people by their skin color but for their actions, but one must know the actions of the individuals before they judge.'
then you should start acknowledging that those beliefs that are afrocentric are all about black being superior ... that's disproven by the history and normal human logic. nevertheless if the african people were on the birth of so called 'civilization' pharaoh were cruel people face it...
and in afica itself this whole is not even an issue, only the slaves in west world make a big fuss about this all... becouse they want to rebel against the white, 'blame it on the whitey' 'white is devil' ect.... just look up oldskool hiphop, it's full of it. even your favourite dead prez made alot racist statements and have the piramid+eye tattoo icluding -.- .
nas himself went tru alot of changes in his life, from christian to NOI....
but mike the facts are that the first preachers of rastafari were masons, and it's not false claims it's open you can search it up!!!! ''Henry Archibald Dunkley was, along with Leonard Howell, Joseph Hibbert, and Robert Hinds'

Ummm, I need not argue anymore for the Emperor, because I presented you information. You don't have to believe it.
I agree with everything said about not judging people by their skin color but for their actions, but one must know the actions of the individuals before they judge.
I could keep responding with more information but I would rather you continue doing what you're doing. I can't warn you anymore, as you don't want to listen, but that is indeed your choice.
Consider this topic dead, unless someone else wants to contribute. ETW, just be careful where you get your information from, because most of it is wrong, and as I mentioned earlier, based on emotion and deception.

A million modern rastas today could be a million wolves in sheeps clothing. Most of these Rastas are not true Rastas, fact. I need not youtube many videos, as I do not want my name plastered on a government list. Albert Pike talks about controlled opponents, how we are handed our "heroes". There are many that speak to us that aren't for us. That my friend, is deception. That is why Emperor Selassie was not only assassinated, but the reason these "Rastas" are slandering his name further today creating lodges in his name.
Ummm, I designed poetry with pictures of Emperor Selassie and his Queen. He dresses nice, I fail to see your point lol.
ETW, deception goes both ways, that is why it is up to you to discern truth from falsity, but first you must read the information before discerning.
That an in the video was unaware of the existence of Selassie, period. He says they always worshipped a white God, or white Jesus. This is the European conditioning. Selassie was seen by them as a reincarnation of Yeshua. Sue them, I won't say they were wrong. You can if you want but that's on you ;)
I agree this isn't about race, but I think it is unfair for someone to speak about modern African culture without really knowing about African history. Either way, I care not to touch on the NOI. And of course, Masons do not see themselves as Gods lol. Have you ever talked to a Mason? I don't think so...
And Noble Drew Ali was nothing more than a Shriner, and yes there is a difference. His Canaanite temple was independent and had null if anything to do with Masonry. Once again more slander towards a venerated figure that met an untimely death. Stop believing this European propoganda.
The American Moors and the NOI are definitely different, please actually talk to some of these people. It is much deeper than I care to go into right now.
Lol, if you don't think I have studied this ish, I don't know what to say.

aff man , you still ignore that the message of rastafari is brought by masons :( it clearly says that the first rastafari preachers we're freemasons !!!!!! that's not a secret, youtube some rastafaris they talk about it themselves.
Have you even chekked some pictures of that hail salasi? lmao cmon mike, you choose to ignore stuff.
'Hmmm, I would also direct you to read Albert Pikes Morals and Dogma.' deception my friend... when the devil wants to tell a lie, .. he has to use some truth.
hope you understand that concept.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXUFONhNyBE&feature=related
''In Jamaica we allways worshipped a white christ, a white king and a white queen they taught us nothing about a black king' LMAO, these people are so into racism, they so stupid to look behind the concept of monarchy and if they know a white man king is bad, then the black 2 (power corrupts)
it's not about the race mike, lmao don't you see these people wanted just to show how black is god lmao just like the nation of islam, and all other black movements in AMERIKA, do you know where the word G in raps means? GOD they see themselves as gods LM masonry !
proof?
listen to the son of Elijah Muhammed ... Warith Deen Muhammad (interview in Islam In AMerica)
study the history of NOI, you will see its 100% masonic with influence from noble drew ali, and the concept of BLACK JESUS.... -.-
all the 5% and nation of gods and earths, are decendents of the teachings of NOI

And ETW, the most important aspect of African culture you can study, ESPECIALLY if you are getting into the modern pan-african movements, is to study African philosophy and spirituality in antiquity! Other than that, you are simply going off the opinions of frustrated and enraged humans that have lost sense of where their message was derived.
Can't understand the present till we go back to the beginning-SANKOFA!
Peace my good man!

Hmmm, I would also direct you to read Albert Pikes Morals and Dogma. If Pike was such an enemy, then why is he famous for exposing degrees of freemasonry past the 33rd degree? Once again, you can never trust information spread about highly venerated figures.
Just like the Prophet Muhammad in Islam has a billion haters for his message, so do other figures that have attempted to spread truth.
The philosopher Voltaire once said "History is a lie that everyone just agreed upon" Get what i'm sayin? lol

The Haile Selassie Lodge was created 15 years after the death of the Emperor. That is like Paul creating Christianity many years after the death of Christ. Doesn't measure up. Face it, Rastafarianism in antiquity was not rooted in masonry. But I get your point though. Keep pluggin brotha!

I will leave you with one last video just to show you the misinformation that is always spread around figures such as Emperor Selasie. Most great leaders are often misrepresented...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeL_KsL1QW0

I stand by my words ETW. I know actual Prince Hall masons, as well as Moorish Shriners. Sorry, but your information is pretty much null. I would advise you cautiously to be careful on these webpages that give you all this information. Do you really think it SHOULD be that easy to get? I know you know something isn't right about that but all I can tell you is that if you want to spread the truth, then you must first learn it. I don't know the truth, but I know enough to know I never will. I hold my position. Talk to some Masons and Shriners first, and actually read some books by Masons, because everything you talk about is shrouded in emotion and misinformation.
Be careful bro. I will be off the internet for most of the summer. Why don't you take a break yourself and do some lodge exploring ;)

and don't tell me that masons don't seed racial hate..
'That some members of the 1920s revived Klan were also freemasons cannot be denied'
don't let fools tell you that alber pike did NOT creat KKK....
culture creation to the fullest,
'And no, Rastafarianism has nothing to do with freemasonry, absolutely nothing' cmon bro do your research ;)

Sorry friend mike, you should have done your homework betta
Archibald Dunkley and Joseph Nathaniel Hibbert were among the preachers that inspired the Rastafari movement, and that both were members of the "Ancient Mystic Order of Ethiopia", a fraternal order derived from Prince Hall Freemasonry.
;( as long as I can remeber the marley family was thought rastafari beliefs in Jamaica?

Ahh ETW my friend, there was no personal attack in there at all.
Speaking from my own experience, I live in the present. You CAN be as old as you feel, but as i've experienced, shit comes crashing down on you sometimes faster than you can know. When that happens, I have always come out a completely different person, that is why I told you to talk to me again in a few years.
And no, Rastafarianism has nothing to do with freemasonry, absolutely nothing. Rastas read scripture, old testament. If you look at the bible, Zion has a few different meanings. The Rastas believe it to be the New Jerusalem (metaphorically speaking), which is a New Testament reference of Zion.
Yes, Damien drinks alcohol, but Bob did the same thing, plus take path in the ganja, just as most Rastas do. Just because they have a different path to the most high doesn't mean it makes them any less of individuals.
ETW, we will have this discussion over and over again, and like always I will simply tell you that being a part of Islam doesn't make you any less of a sheep than the rest of us. And the number of converts to Islam does nothing to bring any more relevance to the faith.
Ask yourself what you believe Islam to be, then ask yourself if anything after that matters.
Keep learning my friend. I know you're on the right track. Just let me stay on my path though, while you explore yours. Peace

hahaha I concluded after some video's of damian being drunk ;) and acutal holding botles of alcholol,
+++ I've heard some X - rastafarians, and I know some haha ;) and yet again alot freemasonic influences, one of the big fastas in jamaica are freemasonic ;), where do you think the obession for zion comes from? ;) and offcourse I've heard some brothers who were really close to rastafarian beliefs some of them used to be rastafarians, just like this brother, who used to live on a farm, and make his own foods+no eating meat + smoking pot for medication :) chek out bro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EMSh2nVfbY watch both 2 parts ;) youll understand.
Lil Wayne is on one track, doesnt matther
'You just can't see that now with your youth' nah, I honestly do not care, if people choose to be sheeps. Time will do it's duty, just imagine 20 years in the future, most people will hate lil wayne ;) and feel bad that theive even listened to that fool, just imagine ;). ok just imagine things you used to like 10 years ago :) since your so old ;'')
"Just talk to me again when you're my age buddy ;)" AFF :( I thought I can be as old as I feel.

Lil Wayne is on one track. K'naan is on 3 ;). Those three songs alone with K'naan are worth it.
Also, ETW, you expect too much out of people. You're going to go through growing pains just like everyone else. You just can't see that now with your youth. Don't try to debate me though, as I have no time to be typing paragraphs. Just talk to me again when you're my age buddy ;)
As for the Rastafari teachings, how do you know Damien doesn't understand them? How do you know you do? Do you know any authentic rastas? Really, it doesn't matter, but since you take it seriously, I suggest conversing with some actual rastas to get a better understanding.

AP: Here are lyrics from 1999's "Nas is Coming": "I bit the fruit from the Serpent, apocalyptic, get bent, stay splifted." And then in your new song "Suicide Bounce" you say, "The devil's calling, but I don't answer." Where does that change come from?
Nas: Just understanding my warrior spirit. There is genius out there, when they go "Vote or Die" that's genius, but what's missing is that warrior spirit. There's is a whole different spirituality that goes with the warrior spirit that Patrice Lumumba, Malcolm X, that they died for. Muhammad Ali had that. Richard Pryor had the warrior spirit. That's what's missing from hip-hop, and the only one that had it was Pac. I'm nowhere near the mind state he was. The stuff that he wrote, he was 21 years old and here I am 31 years old, and I'm still nowhere as deep as Tupac.
@mike, it's not that I hate the whole thing... it actually gets people to think more, but in general they are pretty hypocrits :) nas contradicts himself every new album, and damian didnt understand the rastafarian teachings haha.
I liked 1 song called sabali (patientce) sample from the blind couple from mali
95% if not more of these cats don't even know what the whole zion thing is and the history and prophecys about it LMAO