Their original assertions were met with the usual vitriolic scorn and disbelief faced by all “deniers”. Yet, they fought back and prevailed: Britain’s Met Office, “a congenitally warmist organization”, was eventually forced to concede that have not risen or otherwise changed significantly for the past 10 years.

The most delightful thing about the climate train wreck is that it is happening so slowly….

One by one, Mother Nature hoists the liars by their own petard, but she isn’t rushing at it like an amateur. Oh no – this is a finely honed professional job. Her knives are sharp and the day is long.

She is taking her time, season by season, year by year. Clearly in no hurry, one might almost think she is enjoying herself. I certainly am.

Her cruelty is the stuff of legend – red in tooth and claw and all that, but I never thought she would sink her mighty talons into the plump, quivering flesh of climate alarmists – not in such a deliciously heartless way.

Via Glenn Reynolds comes an article that features the background on the engineer behind the first phase of this train wreck, “Climategate”. Many will recall that much of the initial skepticism about man-made global warming stems from a leaker who shared email communications between prominent international researchers within the U.K.’s University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit (CRU) network.

The individual is known in global warming skeptic circles as “Mr. FOIA” (aka. Freedom of Information Act), and he has been busy again. He just issued a password along with instructions to a select group that provides access to a new and much larger communications file: These files are ones that many of those researchers and their sponsoring organizations have worked very hard to suppress from legal FOIA requests.

That’s right; no conspiracy, no paid hackers, no Big Oil. The Republicans didn’t plot this. USA politics is alien to me, neither am I from the UK. There is life outside the Anglo-American sphere.

Wealth of the surrounding society tends to draw the major brushstrokes of a newborn’s future life. It makes a huge difference whether humanity uses its assets to achieve progress, or whether it strives to stop and reverse it, essentially sacrificing the less fortunate to the climate gods.

We can’t pour trillions in this massive hole-digging-and-filling-up endeavor and pretend it’s not away from something and someone else

As hard data and brave citizens combine to block bad climate policy, this is one wreck I will truly enjoy watching. Pass the popcorn!

Recently NOVA did a big two hour edition titled Earth from Space. It featured various satellites designed to measure different effects & how in combination they all drove the planets environment. Antarctica, ocean currents, volcanos, plant growth in the ocean & on land, the sun as the major driver & a number of other factors. It was very interesting & well done. I noticed two factors always left out. Insects & bacteria. Finally in the last few minutes came the part I knew was coming. The growing influence of humanity & our probable driving of climate change through CO2. It of course only presented one side.

For the past 800,000 years, earth has been in a cycle of warming and cooling in which the temperature of the whole planet rises and falls a total of about 9C. Nobody knows what causes this. We are currently at or near the warmest point of the cycle – the mean planetary temperature will fall about 9C over the next 80,000 years or so. Until we do understand what is driving this cycle of warming and cooling, and can factor it into the changes (or lack thereof) that we are observing, the fuss over manmade climate change is pointless.

BAWatkins – Most of what you say is incorrect. We know to a high degree of certainty what caused the cycles of warming and cooling over the past 800,000 years. These periods of cooling (ice ages) and warming are in beautiful agreement with the Milankovitch cycles. This is caused by the periodic precession of the Earth’s orbit, the change in ellipticity, and the tilt of the axis of rotation. Maybe you don’t understand it, but fortunately many others do. The sun warms the Earth a little, including the oceans. Warmer water releases stored carbon dioxide, which causes more warming, and on and on until the ice age ends. Then, when the warming by the sun diminishes (caused by the changes in orbit, etc), the oceans cool, absorb more CO2 and the climate cools further.

We are actually scheduled to be slowly entering a long-term cooling period caused by these Milankovitch cycles, except for the fact that we have pumped so much carbon dioxide into the atmosphere that the temperature is shooting up at unprecedented rates. Because these factors are actually well-understood, your comment about the “fuss” over global warming is unfounded.

Jimby, no science says “Warmer water releases stored carbon dioxide, which causes more warming, and on and on until the ice age ends.”

Warmer water releasing CO2 is an outcome of the warming. But then you again declare: “ the fact that we have pumped so much carbon dioxide into the atmosphere that the temperature is shooting up at unprecedented rates.” No … isotopes say that CO2 does not have out “ID” on it.

There is no evidence of that. Radioisotopes show the CO2 from man is a tiny part of what is in the atmosphere. The ocean readily dissolves excess calcium into calcite, aka limestone, or gravel. I’ll find the video you need.

Here is a link for the climate conference. Every high school teacher that is abusing their kids with Gore’s climate religion BS should be forced to watch and memorize these, as a sort of sensitivity training.

The one by Hayden covers CO2, but is not the one I was looking for. One guy shows a candle burning under glass, and the CO2 immediately turning to calcite in the water. He also discusses the isotope tests.

The myth that human made CO2 builds up and sticks in the atmosphere for 100’s of years is just more scary religious crap. The chemical reactions are ongoing, and temperature changes some of the rates of exchange.

Most simply, the glaciers were retreating BEFORE the internal combustion engine.

This has been known for a long time now, and general discussions can be found in encyclopedias, including wikipedia. Why don’t you google “Milankovitch Cycles Wiki” and learn something, rather than just making stuff up.

that looks impressive Jimbry, but did not address my specific points. And you didn’t watch my videos, which are very specific data. You just copied someone’s footnotes.

Your long term cycles are not relevant to my point, which was that you departed from long term orbital influence, and injected that CO2 somehow becomes the driver, once those “orbital influences” get the ball rolling.

Gimme ten minutes and I’ll be back with 100 studies that prove the earth is round and 100 more that prove the earth is flat.

“Dr.” Jimby’s gambit is well-known among pseudoscientific claim pushers on the internet – they’ll throw a study at you and demand you refute it. When you do refute it, they throw another study at you. When you refute that one, they throw yet another. Since the internet provides instant access to millions of studies, they have no lack of supply and as you knock down each silly study, another is thrown at you. Eventually, when you quit the stupid process, the Dr. Jimbys go, “Aha! I win!”

UFO proponents are notorious for this, bigfooters, too, but the AGW folks are learning it as well.

So, you are basically saying that we would be headed for another ice age except for human influence on the climate? Good. Unless you really like the thought of a few billion people dying of starvation or war.

As one who has had a “little” training in meteorology, I have never been able to connect a direct link as to labeling the process as human caused.

However, human activity is not friendly to the environment in general but hardly is a driving factor.

Shortly, the sun will be entering a new low activity phase and if as some scientists indicate a long period of inactivity, a forecast of colder world temperatures will follow. This view is one that I can embrace.

The alarmists OTOH are driven by money, power and control all of which is to our detriment…

Did you happen to catch Allan Savory’s TED remarks on desertification and grazing? This guy is a long-time environmentalist from Zimbabwe who formed the Holistic Institute. During the last twenty years that organization has discovered a method of “…turning deserts into thriving grasslands, restoring biodiversity, bringing streams, rivers, and water sources back to life, combating poverty and hunger, and increasing sustainable food production, all while mitigating global climate change through carbon sequestration.” Want to guess what their miracle discovery was?
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Heavy grazing by sheep or cattle.

My recollection is that at the turn of the previous century, that is the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th Centuries, Ethiopia was a food exporting country. Far more dangerous to local farming than global warming is cash crops for export.

Think about Central American peasants being kicked off their farms so landowners can raise grass fed cattle for out fast food places. At least Chick-fil-A doesn’t push beef.

We can probably thank Nixon for our obesity. His Secretary of Agriculture pumped the corn system, and we have corn coming out of our ears. That corn turned to high-fructose corn syrup, with a higher hypoglycemic level than plain sugar. That and huge sodas. We are so used to sweet stuff that ordinary chewing gum has aspartame in it sweeter. Government interference in food markets has caused serious distortions.

In following the money, it would be good to catalog who is raking in the bucks. The selling of worthless carbon credits was perhaps most profitable, but other forms raked in hundreds of millions already, notably out of the $90 billion taxpayer “donation” to “green” energy frauds. These solar/battery companies would seem to have been the favored quid pro quo route for Obama campaign donors.

Large corporations like GE, position themselves to profit from the AGW scam, and now don’t want to lose that investment. But all the free weatherizing and subsidized ‘green” appliances has mostly run its course.

The other “profit” is political, in making lefties look green, but also weakening America. Big Government wants control, and all this fracking and American ingenuity wreaks havoc with the left’s plan to put us all on a food stamp program.

But Obamacare is squeezing Joe Sixpack’s family for an extra $4k a year, and this warming BS is getting another $4k since Obama insists “electricity (and gas) prices must necessarily skyrocket”. Middle America and job creators are all getting squeezed, but rewards for the welfare state are better than ever … free phones and health care, even for the illegals.

Bills are coming due, and lies are being revealed, in time for a 2014 takeover of the Senate. But the story has to break beyond the blogosphere, which even the RNC has apparently never heard of.

You cite temperatures alone as if they’re supposed to mean something. The point of this post isn’t temperatures per se, it’s the claim that human caused CO2 has raised temperatures that will eventually eradicate humanity and the planet, but that with several trillion more taxpayer dollars the disaster won’t be quite so bad. As you may be aware, US CO2 has dropped drastically over the past 20 years, particularly so in the past 7 or 8 years, and is heading even lower. China’s CO2 continues to rise and promises to go much higher as its coal mines serve billions. Over 800 new coal plants are scheduled to open in China and India. The contiguous US is only 1.5% of the planet. Our CO2 could go to zero and it wouldn’t begin to offset China’s. So throwing out random temperatures about some unknown geographical area asserted by some unknown person isn’t meaningful except as an attempt to scare people into believing something that isn’t true. And that’s assuming CO2 causes temperatures to begin with.

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