This post is just to those who use or have used home safes for their watches (not to talk about if it is useful to have one - I am past that :D )

What brand/model do you recommend?
I am looking for:
- TL-15 (or TL-30) rating and fire rating
- hold up to 12 watches (more is fine)
- hold paperwork, a couple small hard drives, and maybe a laptop or 2 (so can't be made up entirely of tiny drawers for watches or jewelry)

Doesn't need to be fancy.

Also any comments on how you store these in your safe (if you have a separate travel case that you put in the safe, etc) would be useful.

This is not the answer you are expecting to the question you are asking, but I'll say it anyway. Home safes offer marginal protection against fire or theft. Most home safes are not very fire retardant. If you are not home, thieves can rip out the whole safe. If you are home, a gun to the head is very effective at opening the safe. I only keep one or two watches at home, with the others at the bank. If you are more worried more about theft than fire, get a fake hollow book and store it on the bookcase. Just as effective as a safe, cheaper and lighter to move.

"A man with a watch knows what time it is; a man with two watches is never quite sure."

Safe's fire protection is marginal at best (although it is very dependent on the location of the safe) and thieves wouldn't even bother with opening it, they will just take it. In my opinion for high value small items like watches safe deposit box is the only way to go.

I have a Liberty Lincoln 50 safe. 90 minutes fire protection and weighs in at 1,150 lb. The safe is also bolted to the floor and has a slew of anti-theft features including ball bearings around the lock (no drilling). While it is expensive, I believe bigger and heavier are always best. Literally, if you want my stuff in the safe, bring a front end loader and explosives. I'm of the opinion that thieves are opportunist and will not spend the time to break into such a safe, especially with all my other alarms, deterrents, etc . Also, while the valuables within it are quite expensive (at least to me), they do not rise to the level a professional thief would spend the time to plan a heist.

It really depends on your situation. If it is to prevent the average burglary or case of a workman in the house walking off with a watch or piece of jewelry, then a A well made heavy safe bolted down is certainly secure. Your average home burglar is not going to walk off with a 500 pound plus safe that he has to tear from the floor.

I purchased safes from a local company who does custom safes here in my city so the brand name will not help you. I found them much more convenient to work with. They delivered, set up and installed and I could look at samples and negotiate. Perhaps there is a company somewhere near you?

I guess if your collection is $50,000 plus tourbillions and you expect the possible gun to the head, then only a bank will do. But for most of us, a well made heavy safe if just fine. If you want any details on mine PM me.

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I was just about to describe our home setup for the storage of valuables, but then it hit me like a brick: I would be doing a literate burglar quite a favour. Remember that although most of us use nicknames unrelated to our real names, many forum regulars can fairly easily be identified. So a little research could go a long way for a diligent burglar, who could figure out your address, the watches you own and their combined value and weigh the probability of success against the applied security measures.

Just sayin'. To borrow a phrase from Heller's Catch 22: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you."

Talking about safety measures in general should be quite safe, but I would certainly avoid any specifics.

Any legitimate TL-15/30 rated safe bolted to the floor will be more than sufficient for your needs. American Security has done some pretty interesting stuff with their proprietary firelining. It is some sort of concrete mixture that has no air gaps and provides a superior fire-retardation to your basic sheetrock fireboard in most safes.