Hi list,
I am interested in stateless Linux project and would like to
volunteer for its beta tester ... I will try roll this out in my brother's
school and after that co workers on my office plus also would like to
contribute to its development ....help it to take to next level :-)
I would like to know what state this project is in ? is anybody involved
in active testing/ testing development ? Do you need beta tester ...
all like minded (stateless people ;-) ) pl let me know if interested
Regards,
gaurav

I am interested in stateless Linux project and would like to
volunteer for its beta tester ... I will try roll this out in my
brother's school and after that co workers on my office plus also would
like to contribute to its development ....help it to take to next level :-)

Gaurav wrote:
> I am interested in stateless Linux project and would like to
> volunteer for its beta tester ... I will try roll this out in my
> brother's school and after that co workers on my office plus also would
> like to contribute to its development ....help it to take to next level :-)
Nice
> I would like to know what state this project is in ? is anybody involved
> in active testing/ testing development ? Do you need beta tester ...
It isn't in active development right now. At Red Hat, they don't even
know if they'll continue it. But if they continue it, there'll be a
team working on it.

Well maybe Red Hat should talk to they have been selling to in the US
Government networks. There is a major need for a packaged conformed
stateless linux product for various networks. The defense department
and energy departments are needing to put 1000's of computers as
diskless nodes. Having say RHEL-4 with a stateless station should be a
good selling point.

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:56:38 +0000, Peter Dedecker
<Peter.Dedecker(a)vtk2.ugent.be&gt; wrote:
>Gaurav wrote:
>
>
>> I am interested in stateless Linux project and would like to
>>volunteer for its beta tester ... I will try roll this out in my
>>brother's school and after that co workers on my office plus also would
>>like to contribute to its development ....help it to take to next level :-)
>>
>>
>Nice
>
>
>
>>I would like to know what state this project is in ? is anybody involved
>>in active testing/ testing development ? Do you need beta tester ...
>>
>>
>It isn't in active development right now. At Red Hat, they don't even
>know if they'll continue it. But if they continue it, there'll be a
>team working on it.
>
>
>
Well maybe Red Hat should talk to they have been selling to in the US
Government networks. There is a major need for a packaged conformed
stateless linux product for various networks. The defense department
and energy departments are needing to put 1000's of computers as
diskless nodes. Having say RHEL-4 with a stateless station should be a
good selling point.
>>all like minded (stateless people ;-) ) pl let me know if interested
>>
>>
>You can see my experiences at
>http://blog.eikke.com/index.php/fedorastateless
>
>Good luck!
>
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My guess is it will still be in testing. We used it last year when the
docs on the site were still sort of current, and it worked pretty well
at my office. However, I am unable to contribute code, so if you don't
know how to read over the python it's hard to troubleshoot.
Try to get it from cvs and pick through the instructions on the project
site, it's fairly easy, but in order to use it for diskless terminals
you pretty much have to have control over your router (we don't).
Still, even with what's there it makes a good system for backups and
mass installs.
At the Fedora Conference in Boston, Havoc talked about it a bit, and
there was interest among the attendees, but I get the impression they
didn't have anyone outside redhat contributing code, so they weren't
really pursuing it.
It's a shame because it was a lot easier than LTSP to get configured.
I'm still going to use it here one way or another, but it could be six
months before I can sit down and add anything to their code.
Jason
gaurav wrote:
| so ...will stateless linux is going to be included in fc 4 or not ??
|
| Stephen J. Smoogen wrote:
|
|> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:56:38 +0000, Peter Dedecker
|> <Peter.Dedecker(a)vtk2.ugent.be&gt; wrote:
|>
|>
|>> Gaurav wrote:
|>>
|>>
|>>> I am interested in stateless Linux project and would like to
|>>> volunteer for its beta tester ... I will try roll this out in my
|>>> brother's school and after that co workers on my office plus also
|>>> would
|>>> like to contribute to its development ....help it to take to next
|>>> level :-)
|>>>
|>>
|>> Nice
|>>
|>>
|>>
|>>> I would like to know what state this project is in ? is anybody
|>>> involved
|>>> in active testing/ testing development ? Do you need beta tester ...
|>>>
|>>
|>> It isn't in active development right now. At Red Hat, they don't even
|>> know if they'll continue it. But if they continue it, there'll be a
|>> team working on it.
|>>
|>>
|>
|>
|> Well maybe Red Hat should talk to they have been selling to in the US
|> Government networks. There is a major need for a packaged conformed
|> stateless linux product for various networks. The defense department
|> and energy departments are needing to put 1000's of computers as
|> diskless nodes. Having say RHEL-4 with a stateless station should be a
|> good selling point.
|>
|>
|>
|>
|>>> all like minded (stateless people ;-) ) pl let me know if interested
|>>>
|>>
|>> You can see my experiences at
|>> http://blog.eikke.com/index.php/fedorastateless
|>>
|>> Good luck!
|>>
|>> --
|>> Peter Dedecker Peter.Dedecker(a)VTK.UGent.be
|>> Studentenvertegenwoordiger VTK Computerpraeses
|>> Isabellakaai 124 - 9000 Gent GSM: 0486/15.23.20
|>>
|>>
|>> --
|>> fedora-devel-list mailing list
|>> fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com
|>> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
|>>
|>>
|>>
|>>
|>
|>
|>
|>
|>
|

I was just wondering how hard this concept of state less Linux will be
to port to other distro (like debian) ? any idea if there code written
od code written specifically for fedora or its just collection of
unities and scripts . if some could just point me fc specific code wud
be great :-)
Jason Powers wrote:

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My guess is it will still be in testing. We used it last year when the
docs on the site were still sort of current, and it worked pretty well
at my office. However, I am unable to contribute code, so if you don't
know how to read over the python it's hard to troubleshoot.
Try to get it from cvs and pick through the instructions on the project
site, it's fairly easy, but in order to use it for diskless terminals
you pretty much have to have control over your router (we don't).
Still, even with what's there it makes a good system for backups and
mass installs.
At the Fedora Conference in Boston, Havoc talked about it a bit, and
there was interest among the attendees, but I get the impression they
didn't have anyone outside redhat contributing code, so they weren't
really pursuing it.
It's a shame because it was a lot easier than LTSP to get configured.
I'm still going to use it here one way or another, but it could be six
months before I can sit down and add anything to their code.
Jason
gaurav wrote:
| so ...will stateless linux is going to be included in fc 4 or not ??
|
| Stephen J. Smoogen wrote:
|
|> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:56:38 +0000, Peter Dedecker
|> <Peter.Dedecker(a)vtk2.ugent.be&gt; wrote:
|>
|>
|>> Gaurav wrote:
|>>
|>>
|>>> I am interested in stateless Linux project and would like to
|>>> volunteer for its beta tester ... I will try roll this out in my
|>>> brother's school and after that co workers on my office plus also
|>>> would
|>>> like to contribute to its development ....help it to take to next
|>>> level :-)
|>>>
|>>
|>> Nice
|>>
|>>
|>>
|>>> I would like to know what state this project is in ? is anybody
|>>> involved
|>>> in active testing/ testing development ? Do you need beta tester ...
|>>>
|>>
|>> It isn't in active development right now. At Red Hat, they don't
even
|>> know if they'll continue it. But if they continue it, there'll be a
|>> team working on it.
|>>
|>>
|>
|>
|> Well maybe Red Hat should talk to they have been selling to in the US
|> Government networks. There is a major need for a packaged conformed
|> stateless linux product for various networks. The defense department
|> and energy departments are needing to put 1000's of computers as
|> diskless nodes. Having say RHEL-4 with a stateless station should be a
|> good selling point.
|>
|>
|>
|>
|>>> all like minded (stateless people ;-) ) pl let me know if
interested
|>>>
|>>
|>> You can see my experiences at
|>> http://blog.eikke.com/index.php/fedorastateless
|>>
|>> Good luck!
|>>
|>> --
|>> Peter Dedecker Peter.Dedecker(a)VTK.UGent.be
|>> Studentenvertegenwoordiger VTK Computerpraeses
|>> Isabellakaai 124 - 9000 Gent GSM: 0486/15.23.20
|>>
|>>
|>> --
|>> fedora-devel-list mailing list
|>> fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com
|>> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
|>>
|>>
|>>
|>>
|>
|>
|>
|>
|>
|

I was just wondering how hard this concept of state
less Linux will be
to port to other distro (like debian) ? any idea if
there code written
od code written specifically for fedora or its just
collection of
unities and scripts .

its in a highly experimental stage now. once its
complete it can definitely be ported to other
distributions if people work on it. if you have a
interest in it poke into the current code in cvs yourself
Regards
Rahul Sundaram
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--- gaurav <gauravp(a)hclcomnet.co.in&gt; wrote:
>I was just wondering how hard this concept of state
>less Linux will be
>to port to other distro (like debian) ? any idea if
>there code written
>od code written specifically for fedora or its just
>collection of
>unities and scripts .
>
>
its in a highly experimental stage now. once its
complete it can definitely be ported to other
distributions if people work on it. if you have a
interest in it poke into the current code in cvs yourself

i would request Redhat (if possible) to start a new mailing list
dedicated to stateless linux where a group dedicated developers can
work as I think this project has huge potential :-)

Actually, I was waiting for some sort of larger announcement and mailing list
myself. I had put a very little time into it.. but couldnt see who
else was wanting it or doing anything on it. Having a mailing list
would be useful.
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:22:58 +0530, gaurav <gauravp(a)hclcomnet.co.in&gt; wrote:

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>--- gaurav <gauravp(a)hclcomnet.co.in&gt; wrote:
>
>
>
>>I was just wondering how hard this concept of state
>>less Linux will be
>>to port to other distro (like debian) ? any idea if
>>there code written
>>od code written specifically for fedora or its just
>>collection of
>>unities and scripts .
>>
>>
>
>its in a highly experimental stage now. once its
>complete it can definitely be ported to other
>distributions if people work on it. if you have a
>interest in it poke into the current code in cvs yourself
>
>
i would request Redhat (if possible) to start a new mailing list
dedicated to stateless linux where a group dedicated developers can
work as I think this project has huge potential :-)
>Regards
>Rahul Sundaram
>
>
>
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Actually, I was waiting for some sort of larger announcement and
mailing list
myself. I had put a very little time into it.. but couldnt see who
else was wanting it or doing anything on it. Having a mailing list
would be useful.

It was however decided till the traffic on f-d-l got too high, there
would be no stateless linux list. So, why not just use f-d-l in the
meantime?
Quoting Rahul:

> i would request Redhat (if possible) to start a new mailing
list
> dedicated to stateless linux where a group dedicated developers can
> work as I think this project has huge potential :-)

This is an excellent place for the *external* community to step up and
start hacking. Remember, Fedora is a Red Hat sponsored, community
project
--
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then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi

On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 07:54 -0700, Stephen J. Smoogen wrote:
> Actually, I was waiting for some sort of larger announcement and
> mailing list
> myself. I had put a very little time into it.. but couldnt see who
> else was wanting it or doing anything on it. Having a mailing list
> would be useful.
It was however decided till the traffic on f-d-l got too high, there
would be no stateless linux list. So, why not just use f-d-l in the
meantime?

Curiosity about stateless linux was one of the reasons I joined f-d-l.
I've heard very little about stateless linux in the last month --
certainly there is another other stuff going on f-d-l that it doesn't seem
like a comfortable place to discuss stateless linux.
On the other hand, it could be that stateless linux is dead in the water
and there wouldn't be enoug of a critical mass to sustain discussion
elsewhere.

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:45:47 +1000, Colin Charles
<byte(a)aeon.com.my&gt; wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 07:54 -0700, Stephen J. Smoogen wrote:
>
>> Actually, I was waiting for some sort of larger announcement and
>> mailing list
>> myself. I had put a very little time into it.. but couldnt see who
>> else was wanting it or doing anything on it. Having a mailing list
>> would be useful.
>
>
> It was however decided till the traffic on f-d-l got too high, there
> would be no stateless linux list. So, why not just use f-d-l in the
> meantime?
Curiosity about stateless linux was one of the reasons I joined
f-d-l. I've heard very little about stateless linux in the last month
-- certainly there is another other stuff going on f-d-l that it
doesn't seem like a comfortable place to discuss stateless linux.
On the other hand, it could be that stateless linux is dead in the
water and there wouldn't be enoug of a critical mass to sustain
discussion elsewhere.

I would really like to see the stateless project be revived. It seems
like it is a good idea, and I know several people, including myself, who
have implemented alternatives after realizing that stateless was no
longer being developed. I would be willing to help in this cause if
there are enough other people for this to worthwhile.
--
Matthew Eastman
Center for Computation & Technology
Louisiana State University

--- gaurav <gauravp(a)hclcomnet.co.in&gt; wrote:
>I was just wondering how hard this concept of state
>less Linux will be
>to port to other distro (like debian) ? any idea if
>there code written
>od code written specifically for fedora or its just
>collection of
>unities and scripts .
>
>
its in a highly experimental stage now. once its
complete it can definitely be ported to other
distributions if people work on it. if you have a
interest in it poke into the current code in cvs yourself
Regards
Rahul Sundaram