it's proabably better than var. it's actually compared to dbol but without the bad sides. u get no water retention, it's lean mass gain. i have it on hand and can't wait to use it. i believe jbol is using it right now and keeping a journal online. i'm gonna find the thread and bump it.

will it promote strength gains like var
i know its a mix btw. dbol and clostebol i have read it makes you lean and hard but i did not see anything on strength gains. thats the main reson i take var for strength and lean gains. but hey turinabol is much cheaper
does anyone know the min. and max dose to take ed
thanks.