Comments on: Tigers could address their leadoff woes with Jacoby Ellsbury or Shin-Soo Choohttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/20/tigers-could-address-their-leadoff-woes-with-jacoby-ellsbury-or-shin-soo-choo/
Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball.Sun, 02 Aug 2015 23:24:58 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: rcalihttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/20/tigers-could-address-their-leadoff-woes-with-jacoby-ellsbury-or-shin-soo-choo/comment-page-1/#comment-600590
Mon, 21 Oct 2013 19:32:34 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=501070#comment-600590Just keep throwing money at the problem Tigers. Team chemistry is overrated.
-Arte Moreno
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Mon, 21 Oct 2013 16:57:48 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=501070#comment-600449I go with Jay. Fix that bullpen first. Jackson is not that bad.
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Mon, 21 Oct 2013 14:28:34 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=501070#comment-600316@albert, yeah, signing either of them to replace a corner outfielder would make some sense. Maybe that is what they have in mind. Because the article focused on their dissatisfaction with Jackson, I assumed they wanted to replace Jackson in center.
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Mon, 21 Oct 2013 12:54:01 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=501070#comment-600264If it were Choo, no one said he would have to play CF if the Tigers signed him. Choo played CF this year, but is a better fit at a corner spot defensively. They could have Jackson in CF and Choo in LF or RF, which make Choo a better fit. If you added Ellsbury, you could easily move one of the guys to LF or RF and at least make your OF defense better than average, since your IF defense isn’t great. Imagine how good that Tiger rotation might be if they could play defense.
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Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:48:21 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=501070#comment-600254People are right — the window is closing for Detroit. I hope that the team hangs on to Max Scherzer and goes all in for 2014. As a Tigers fan, I’d prefer to see Choo in LF instead of Ellsbury; I like both but I expect Ellsbury will be the more expensive and the less durable over time.
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Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:40:00 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=501070#comment-600252They need to shift to 1B and DH about two years ago!
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Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:38:55 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=501070#comment-600251“Very average” is a hugely generous description of Choo’s defense. The Tigers are already a defensive disaster; that is the biggest single area of their team that needs upgrading. It would be mind-boggling if they signed Choo to play center.
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Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:36:03 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=501070#comment-600249Of all the places they might upgrade, I don’t see why the Tigers would choose center field. Austin Jackson is a good, young, inexpensive player. He hit fine this season and was very good last season. He even hit well against Boston in the ALCS. Ellsbury would be much more expensive and only a slight upgrade at best.
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Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:49:59 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=501070#comment-600241I’ve been listening to Tony Masseroti talk about it for the last 2 years, haha.
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Mon, 21 Oct 2013 09:53:21 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=501070#comment-600239If they don’t want to keep Scherzer,I can see them making a run at Ellsbury. But without Max, they don’t make the playoffs.
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Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:36:03 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=501070#comment-600230Isn’t the bullpen what they should first address?
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Mon, 21 Oct 2013 06:38:41 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=501070#comment-600222Choo would play LF, which is also large, but not CF. He could move to RF in 2015 and Castellanos starts full time in LF after a platoon w/Dirks this year or some AAA time.

Castellanos according to team sources won’t be going back to 3b regardless of Miggy moving off it, getting hurt or any other reason.

I don’t see them trading Max either, but you never know. Their max payroll long term is around $165MM-ish.

Miggy and Biggy need to shift to 1b and DH after 2014…may happen, may not. Should.

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Mon, 21 Oct 2013 05:57:47 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=501070#comment-600212Shin-Soo Choo is a great lead off man, but he’s very average in the field. Asking him to hold down that huge Comerica center field is a recipe for disaster.
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Mon, 21 Oct 2013 04:54:44 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=501070#comment-600210Not saying 2B is a realistic option.

But NC isn’t playing 3B at Erie because they’re teaching him LF because he’s blocked. Not because he wasn’t handling it.

The latter is very likely. Trading Max for a big package would be painful to see, but might balance the payroll long term given they would spend less on Fister, promote Smyly to the 4 slot and get some depth from their trade suitor. Castellanos? Show me you can hit MLB pitching and we’ll find you a spot…

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Mon, 21 Oct 2013 02:30:05 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=501070#comment-600150The Series hasn’t even started yet and you’re already talking about Ellsbury leaving. Can you let us Boston fans enjoy the rest of this wonderful season first?
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Mon, 21 Oct 2013 02:26:54 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=501070#comment-600147Isn’t some of that “Boras familiarity” in the form of their 25 mil a year first baseman whose contract they probably regret right about now?
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Mon, 21 Oct 2013 02:20:49 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=501070#comment-600142Choo is becoming that hot daughter whose virtue a weary dad is tired of protecting… how much guys? How much to tap that Choo?
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Mon, 21 Oct 2013 02:18:45 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=501070#comment-600140The Tigers probably need him more than the Sox. He is the player most likely to leave Boston. It’s too bad because Bradley is nowhere near ready and Victorino is better off in right. Boras rules lead him to the Mariners or Tigers.
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Mon, 21 Oct 2013 02:12:40 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=501070#comment-600136Gezundtheit.
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