when is our government going to admit that ILLEGAL aliens DO NOT HAVE civil rights. What they should get is a ride home or to the jail. If you don't like what I said, your probably here illegally.

5:30 pm September 2, 2010

Francis wrote:

The mêlée over illegal immigration has just begun and the Tea Party members, Conservatives and independents should be mindful of Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer of Californians record. Boxer debated candidate Republican challenger Carly Fiorina, former CEO of Hewlett-Packard, for US Senate seat, confronting each other in the first of their debates this election season. Fiorina took the lead in in the political discussion that was informative, even when both contributors were argumentative. Voters must make the best assessment between the two very dissimilar candidates, from opposed ends of their political philosophy. Both opinionated over how to best construct a jobs program; about their records in business sector, public and foreign policy and internal government strife. This first upfront in the face debate was barbed, in a performance of competing arguments with the candidates in an all-out attack on each other’s records.

The questions were balanced from voters, but discord remained as the smear tactics continued losing sight in some cases of the original questioning. In the offset it came to voter’s questions about immigration, which as now surfaced as a red-hot button issue commencing with the federal lawsuit against the state of Arizona. Even the sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa county is being dragged over the tiles for exerting his state authority to apprehend illegal aliens. Unless I missed it on C-SPAN there was no mention of Immigration Chief John Morton with ICE arresting only criminals and releasing thousands of illegal aliens back on the streets, in a De Facto Amnesty. Although Madam Fiorina supports the "Dream Act” it must be noted she does not agree with any AMNESTY. The Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act would provide a pathway to citizenship for undocumented students who came to the United States as minors and finished high school.

Boxer on the other hand believed in Comprehensive Immigration Reform, known by most prudent Americans as Amnesty. This would commence with a massive expenditure to taxpayers, through forced taxes to pay for Amnesty, with welfare programs not far behind. Like her counterpart Sen. Harry Reid, her stance on stopping illegal immigration is in one word" Un-American" She is obviously for an open border because her record shows that. Voted--YES--on continuing federal funds for declared "Sanctuary Cities". Bill Table S.Amdt.4309 to S.Con.Res ; on Mar 13, 2008. Voted--YES--on comprehensive Immigration reform Bill S.1639 ; on Jun 28, 2007. Voted--NO--on declaring English as the official language of the US Government Bill. S.Amdt.1151 to S.1348 ; on Jun 6, 2007. Voted--YES--on eliminating the "Y" nonimmigrant guest worker visa Bill S.Amdt.1153 on S.1348 ; on May 22, 2007. Voted--YES--on building a fence along the Mexican border. Bill H R 6061 ; on Sep 29, 2006. The 2006 Secure Fence Bill was a fallacy, as it wasn’t built as originally intended and still remains uncompleted. Voted--YES--on establishing a Guest Worker program. Bill S. 2611 ; on May 25, 2006.

VOTED--YES--ON ALLOWING ILLEGAL ALIENS TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR SOCIAL SECURITY Bill S.Amdt.3985 to S.2611 ; on May 18, 2006. Voted—NO-- on allowing more foreign workers into the US for agricultural work. Bill S.2260 ; on Jul 23, 1998. Voted--YES--on a visa for skilled workers. Bill S. 1723 ; on May 18, 1998. Voted--NO--on limiting welfare for immigrants. Bill S.947 ; on Jun 24, 1997. SPONSORED PROVIDING FUNDING FOR SOCIAL SERVICES FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS. Funding (S.AMDT.4072 to S.2611) 06-SP4072 on May 18, 2006. According to NumbersUSA website Sen. Boxer has a "D" in Immigration enforcement and her stance categorizes her, with an open border mentality. The majority of Democrats have already breeched their oath of Allegiance to the American people, by catering more to the health care, education and other benefits to the illegal alien invasion force, while in many states the underprivileged citizens are either turned away or left to their own devices—when it comes to public assistance.

California is a—SANCTUARY CITY—and state, supported by lawmakers such as Senator Boxer. California has become a harbor for millions of illegal aliens that are benefiting from a damaged federal, state and county entitlement system. In part it has been compromised by hundreds of thousands of instant-citizenship for babies of illegal aliens, tapping into all manner of cash payments and so much more, leaving the state’s welfare system dragging its tail. Overall billions of your tax dollars are being swallowed up by people who shouldn’t be here--nationwide. We have a good chance now to remove all pro-amnesty, pro-illegal immigrant politicians and all elected officials and elect new unblemished legislators. Warn your Senator or Congressman by calling the Washington switchboard 202-224-3121. If you are not in-line with the peoples wished, you will be out in November.

5:36 pm September 2, 2010

Nalgon. wrote:

Are you stupid or what? Of course Illegals have civil rights. And I'm not Illegal; I just hate stupidity.

6:09 pm September 2, 2010

Tell me, what do you really believe? wrote:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. —

Human rights and immigration status are two different things. We have a right and obligation to protect both. I do not believe one can be achieved at the expense of the other.

6:11 pm September 2, 2010

Yeah, he's stupid wrote:

And the Arizona sheriff is pretty dumb too. The case against him by the Feds has nothing to do with immigration policy or discrimination against certain groups of persons -- it's all about his obstructing their investigation of his office. Now it doesn't matter what the immigration policy is, doesn't matter what his office did or didn't do to Hispanics, it's only about whether he tried to keep DOJ looking in to his practices. My guess is that he did and the DOJ has great evidence that he did. So is most likely a goner and the Feds are going to get rid of him without having to establish his office discriminated against Hispanics and without having to deal with the larger immigration issue.

Yep, he's stupid.

6:33 pm September 2, 2010

orionlil wrote:

How can they call keeping requested documents "cooperating?"

6:54 pm September 2, 2010

and the administration wonders wrote:

why America has turned against them in only two years or so...

Among other things, suing the State of Arizona on SB1070, and then this.

7:00 pm September 2, 2010

Special Kid wrote:

The strangest part of the whole debate is that as a nation we depend heavily on our lawyers to support the law, and then find many of them busily supporting the illegals. Seems backwards to us- the great unwashed..

7:37 pm September 2, 2010

Roy Huntley wrote:

I am a retired Border Patrol Agent. The liberal writers and liberal politicians make me believe I worked all those years for no reason. Also state and local police have always enforced federal laws but now the new world order folks who want to integrate all of earth are taking them to court. Shame on them.
There is one sure, cheap way to rid the country of illegal aliens. Just 30 days in the slammer for the foreman
and CEO of any company that hires them. The new world order folks won't do that either. SAd, Sad

7:41 pm September 2, 2010

TMR wrote:

Lets punish the people who try uphold the Law or have the balls to uphold the law. Illegal = Illegal. If that is not true then everything that is illegal no matter the topic should be looked at the same way as illegal immigration. That is swept under the rug and forgot about. If it were up to me illegals no matter what should be allowed to stay if they speak our language can read and write and have a job. Other then that bye bye. Also if you were born here from Illegal aliens your not a citizen. Bleeding hearts only get you a slow death and failure as a society. Success is tough and with it comes sacrifice so lets not sacrifice our citizens for the citizens of other country's.

7:42 pm September 2, 2010

Roy Huntley wrote:

A border fence is near worthless. They can tunnel under, go over with a rope and hook, or use a ladder..
A short jail sentence for those that hire them is the only solution, and it would be the cheapest too.

7:45 pm September 2, 2010

Roy Huntley wrote:

Shame on the president and the attorney general for their treatment of the Arizona sheriff and the State of Arizona AND to anyone who agrees with them.

8:35 pm September 2, 2010

Tony wrote:

My Grandparents ( all four) came to this country in the late 1800' s from Slovenia. They learned to speak English, got a job through the help of other Slovenians who preceded them, saved their money and bought a home paying cash. Between the two families they raised 15 children who went on to improve their lives and that of their children. They lived into their nineties, never collected social security, never had medicare, paid
all the bills with cash, and if they didn't have enough money they didn't buy.

These were typical pf the immigrants who came to this country for over 200 years. They worked hard, saved and provided for themselves with no government help. and whil;e they loved the "old country", they
loved the United States of America too for the freedom and opportunities available to all.

If these illegal immigrants would request entry into our country in a legal manner, obtain work and live
according to our laws they could apply for citizenship and obtain all the benefits that we do. Those people would be welcomed into our society.
But those who cross the border illegally should be returned home.
Let's not persecute or prosecute those who are upholding the laws of this Land. They are doing the
job that the federal government should be doing under the Constitution. And let's cut out this "racial argument" that the liberals use whenever someone disagrees with them

8:43 pm September 2, 2010

mad as hell wrote:

We have crazies running our country into the ground in Washington. Arpaio should be heralded as a hero, instead Holder (Muslim) goes after him for enforcing the law against illegals. WE better kick these crazies our in November if we have any chance to remain what was once America!

9:15 pm September 2, 2010

Jake wrote:

Back in the 1940s, had the United States been run by folks who believed that illegal entrants into America have the same constitutional rights as true citizens of the United States, all the commentary on this blog today would appear in the German tongue.

Atlas shrugs.

9:29 pm September 2, 2010

Phil wrote:

Where's the (publicly available) press release from Arpaio's counsel. Also, since this is a Title VI case involving funding to Maricopa County and the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office, why are they even naming Arpaio as a defendant. It's irrelevant to the suit, the United States doesn't cut checks to Sheriff Arpaio under the various funding programs discussed in the suit (it probably doesn't even mail them to him), they pay some grant money. Seems like they're setting themselves up for a motion to dismiss Arpaio from the suit.

9:34 pm September 2, 2010

Jon wrote:

Let's face it...this President and DOJ will go after ANYONE who doesn't agree with their Socialist policies and will act like the Gestopo to crush any resistence.

9:45 pm September 2, 2010

plaza04433 wrote:

This apparently is about Arpaio obstructing justice, (once again) and witholding documents. Arpaio is also under FBI and federal grand jury investigation for corruption. No matter what Arpaio has done right or wrong in his duties as Sherriff, he is not above the law.

HoweverArpaio has acted like he is, and not just in matters involving immigration, he has a long history of intimidation of local officials and even other law enforcemrnt officers.

U.S. Attorney for the District of New Mexico David Iglesias, who was the military lawyer portrayed by Tom Cruise in the movie A Few Good Men said of Iglesias after KPHO News presented Iglesias with charges and cort judgements (abuse of power and violation of election law) already made against against Aripiao : "I've been in and around law enforcement for about 20 years -- state, local and federal level (and) even some military prosecution work. I've never seen anything like this."

I can understand Arpaio's appeal to people, but he has gone rogue., and is using the immigration issue as a shield to confuse public opinion, it is as simple as that.

On the matter of immigration:

Roy Huntley wrote:
"I am a retired Border Patrol Agent....
There is one sure, cheap way to rid the country of illegal aliens. Just 30 days in the slammer for the foreman
and CEO of any company that hires them."

This is the truth., it is way cheaper and easier than chasing down illegal's.

9:52 pm September 2, 2010

NV Fisherman wrote:

Obama does not want a negotiated settlement. Obama is running for his political life. Who is kidding who. Hopefully a federal judge will see what is really going on. This lawsuit is for political purposes.

8:46 am September 3, 2010

azlegalimmig wrote:

Joe need to "cooperate" with DOJ in spanish and then he need to sue them if they will request all information in other language... Really, why so call hispanics, which is nothing more than people of all possible races, who's native language is spanish, asking for SPECIAL treatment such as permit to cross US border anytime and anywhere they wish without established by international rules way???

8:56 am September 3, 2010

omaba wrote:

what is funny is a our dear "presidente" promised to help main street but newer did anything against wallstreet and now wallstreet receive even greater bonuses then by w... whatever you look what is done by new white regime does not benefit american people. WHERE ARE MY CIVIL RIGHTS TO BE PROTECTED BY MY GOVERNMENT?

11:04 am September 3, 2010

John Teague wrote:

Let's face it, Arpaio and the state of Arizona does not get to mooch millions in federal funding and then whine and the play victim when they are called on the carpet for obstruction. They don't have the option of obstructing a federal investigation. Besides, what do they have to hide?

11:34 am September 3, 2010

NYC Maritime Attorney wrote:

Totally concur with Roy Huntley's suggestion on the best solution to this problem but I fear that our country would never take it to that level. I grew in California and Hawaii where such a problem has been widely known and acknowledged for decades. I've been saying for over 20 years that if the USG was really serious about wanting to stop illegal immigration, it would go after those who hire illegal immigrant labor in direct contrvention of the law. The obvious result would be a decline in the number of jobs for illegal aliens. That would greatly diminish the incentive for illegal immigration. The federal statutes needed to indict and convict any CEO, CFO or corporate officer for their company's violations of US immigration statutes are already on the books.

My suspicion is that no Congressman, particularly those from states that rely heavily on illegal immigrant labor, e.g. California, really wants to go after those who hire illegal labor because so many small and medium sized enterprises, as well as some major corporations, rely on such illegal labor. That's a powerful lobby that Congressmen and state legislators alike don't want to piss off. Hence all the talk about getting tough on illegal immigration by going after the harder and more expensive target.

12:48 pm September 3, 2010

Julian Tepper wrote:

This is not the same Civil Rights Division of the US DOJ for which I was a trial attorney back in the late '60s.

Even during the Nixon years, the Divsion combatted real civil rights denials. Even under Nixon, it was not politicized as comprehensively as it is now. Even under Nixon, much of what is going on today would have been eschewed.

I am also chagrined that the curerent day Attorney General and I were educated in the same law school. The government and the Divsion are demeaned.

For shame.

Julian Tepper
Placitas, NM

1:46 pm September 3, 2010

Leo760 wrote:

good He is bad man racist he thinks he can do any think. But his hiding some bad moves treatments to Hispanic that why he won't turn papers or documents in.

1:55 pm September 3, 2010

happy wrote:

I will vote for democrats & vote against the current governor of arizona racist bitch.

8:40 pm September 3, 2010

Alexander Hamilton wrote:

Happy. Perhaps you should consider changing your name to suit your apparent unhappiness. Also, for the good of the country, please consider voting for the Republicans.

4:50 am September 4, 2010

Confused? wrote:

Call me confused but I *thought* that obstruction of justice was a criminal matter, not a civil matter. The only reason I can come up with is that they can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt but are hoping that the preponderance of the evidence will allow them to punish the Sheriff. Have they also cut off all funding to the Sheriffs Department as well? If not, why not if they are in violation of the rules surrounding their grants. Obviously, I am not a lawyer so this makes very little sense to me. [28 years of university level education since age 10, and still it doesn't make sense. Engineering and economics are far easier to deal with!]]

6:34 pm September 6, 2010

Special Kid wrote:

Takes a lot of lawyers to handle suits against a baseball player and a sherriff at the same time. Justice sure has its hands full.

10:24 pm September 6, 2010

connie wrote:

Something is wrong with some people of our government. Officer Arpaio, Governor of Arizona and Lou Dobbs are the only people whose brains are working fine. All these people have been trying to do is to ask our government to ENFORZE OUR CURRENT IMMIGRATION LAW for the benefit of our American citizens and also for the benefit of the illegal people so illegal people do not die in their way to America. Our government is doing all the opposite, they want to give amnesty and a new comprehensive Reformed Immigration Law. This new law is not to stop illegal immigration. This new law is to include more illegal people so they all can be rewarded with legalization. To give them fines, to help them to learn English and to ask them to pay taxes it is nothing. All this is a rewarding for them. Instead that our government sues Arpaio, Governor of Arizona, we should fire, impeach many members of our Congress, impeach our government and fire the people of the Court of Injustice because they are all working against the interest of the American Citizens, and they are not ENFORCING OUR CURRENT IMMIGRATION LAW. It is very sad and it is even a shame to have to say this. OUR GOVERNMENT SHOULD STOP SUEING OUR PROTECTORS AND THEY SHOULD START DOING THEIR WORK THAT IS ENFORCE OUR CURRENT IMMIGRATION LAW AND ONCE MOST OF THE ILLEGAL PEOPLE ARE GONE THEN BUILD OUR BORDERS, WALLS ETC. AND CONTINUE ENFORCING THE CURRENT IMMIGRATION LAW. DO NOT BUILD WALLS OR BORDERS WITH ALL THE ILLEGAL PEOPLE INSIDE THE COUNTRY. ILLEGAL PEOPLE BUILD TUNNELS, OVERSTAY THEIR VISAS, MARRY AGAIN HERE, HAVE NEW CHILDRENS WITH THE HOPE THAT THESE GRINGOS WILL GIVE AMNESTY AGAIN.

8:03 pm September 7, 2010

Vomit wrote:

This blog has become a shadow of its former self.

Anyhow, just look at the dude's face ... The slimey righty deserves to go down.

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